you you you you you you you you you you Check, check, check. How we doing today guys? How we doing? I know you've probably seen some news we ain't going quietly man that's all I could say We ain't going quietly! All right, I have a bill that I really wanted to play with and I want to see how strong it is. Now, let me ask you something. eggplant bats here do you think we can solo onslaught you think we could do it you think we can make it happen you think we you think we got it eggplant bat on this guys eggplant bat is it a real build it's a real it's really enough? What kind of question is that? What do you mean? Is it real? What are you insinuating? What do you mean by build? What do you mean by real? What are you saying right now? And What's that supposed to mean? I did. But look, just go along with it, okay? And we're gonna fuck around with this build. I claim back this shit. And then we're gonna talk about the news in just a moment. Don't look at the news right now. Just keep looking at me. Just keep looking at me. We're going to go in here and we're going to talk about it in just a second. We'll talk about it in just a second, okay? Don't worry about any of that stuff right now. Life is beautiful. Life is beautiful. Show the artifact, but don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. The details don't matter. I'm going to put that on, I don't know what else I need to put on. I'm actually really curious to see how this is going to work. It may be, maybe, ah, it's actually, I don't know, I don't know. on class fonts Reaper proxying class again I got some I don't even think I need any of this I don't even think I need any of this but here's what I'll do I'll do stacks other stacks I'll do, I'll do that I will also do, um, yeah, we'll throw in some resist mods, I'll do a charge up mod, I'll do, I'll do double charge up and then I'll do, I'll do this mod this mod yeah and then I'll do chunky super chunky dude okay this regard the the drip right now drip could be better chat we'll talk about it just a second okay right now right now we're gonna we're gonna get in here we're gonna fuck around and I have a great time today dude and then we'll we'll talk about some stuff in just a second okay I promise I promise It's really my only weapons Do I even need any other I don't even think I need any other weapons be honest with you We've got eggplant bed on this perfect. Where is where is Corio? Is that a pinnacle not Corio oh I got Grandmaster on I got overload and unstoppable champions Why wouldn't anyone ever customize it in this? That's the match made type all let's do ultimates ultimates here just ultimate just raw ultimate How about that? Combined power of 500. Yeah, we're gonna try this. Barrier on stop overload. Okay, so I'm good. I'm good across the board. I think I could do Chad this firepower work for Dremmings of I'll take a look at everything in a second. God dog it dude, God dog it. The ammo. The idea here is we'll get stacks and then we'll just, we'll let it just keep doing its thing. Am I able to get more than one? Not that there's so much damage. Oh my lord! Because the only way I can get more than one is to bomb on the actual strand sub-clots. I got a new mineshaft going on. Damn. Look at that. Let's see if I can do some. Because... Yeah. I may have to do that then I may restart the trunk is massive yeah I'm doing death row with it though let me keep doing let me keep running this oh my god dude Jack, that throws does amp up the damage of threatening, right? Only the grenade ports? Yeah, but I'm throwing my grenade. I got the bow around right now. I'm throwing my grenade a lot. He's going to be so weird going back to our normal builds next week. We're going to try the boss, the wave team boss. I feel like we can instant nuke. Some of us are probably a better option. Ah, it's not really the unraveling I'm meeting right now. I got apotheosis and verity, which I feel like a really good combination for this. Oh my god, he just knew that. Did that not cast it? Because the Pateos is not rocking right now, what's going on? I Miss I get the wrong am I the wrong artifact mono or the wrong What's happening what what am I gonna go? What's happened? He does that? What do you mean he does that? No, no, no, I have the artifact done. I feel like I have my builders not working right now, though. or pausing bugs. The Dreadnought kills in pieces? Oh, does it really? You got to be honest, you got to be honest. You super did that? of I think I just respawned them twice. We're like such a brain-dead class. We're about to see if we can nuke the balls here like really fast. I'm actually really curious if that's how it's going to work. I can vouch for this gamecrasher. Bailiness with the tune gifted subs! Bailiness, thank you so much for the big tin chat. Please drop some love and eggplants right now for Bailiness. Nests now mature over time. Fulmin' turn nests can be harvested. I don't feel like the tango was really that good. Or the catalyst wasn't that really good. You didn't even get the tango out of it. Jack, did I have to rally in order to get my, um, get my Super World of Balls here? I don't know if I got any rallys, actually. I'm embarrassed to make that sound. Good for you. Oh, okay. Oh, it's after Gator. All right, all right! Let's see how fast I can nuke him or not. Oh my god! Need to storm his axe, people. We're back! I don't think threatlings are working on our dismay. I think I think I think a couple chaos rages can meet our guests. Oh, they do So show me some clips guys, I'm gonna do I think chaos rich get daft and then come to our guest Do we have an anarchy checkpoints YNAGEE WITH THE TWENTY GIFTISTS! YNAGEE, you come in here, you throw it down, you drop twenty gifts and subs this morning champ for the love of god, I need to see some eggplants for this man, by the way, YNAGEE, Do you want to pay at the arm runs? Let me know man. Oh my god. Oh my god, I even messed up here, dude. Oh my god. Dude, these bosses are so fucking deep too. This is insane. If you wanted my man, we got you brother. We got you I mean edge friends are right now with cascade Bayden switch My god, this used to be the shit. Remember was it was it the MV a swap off you get envious on it? Palladrome No DFA tier three and a hothead oh why India's assassin impact case audit or aggregate is it good chat is it Good. Where's Hezins Vindus is the best. Nice roll. Well, you can upgrade it guys. You can upgrade. You can upgrade the tears, man. Savorable. Met him. Hezins will forever be the met him. Yeah, I might keep this. All right. Um... Dude, let's go nuke some bosses. I am I'm so down for this. Let's nuke some bosses. I really think I think Geomax would really cook right now. If you are, if you got some cheesy shit, feel free to join up. We're about the nukes and bosses. Warframe at the 18 minutes. Nice, man. Nice. I'm going to be on this for a little bit, but we'll be looking at Warframe later. much love to my Warframe community. The sniper meditation stack would not, not to this capacity, again, it's all about the tier. The sniper's meditation is on the final two tier, you know, on that tier three, so it's not as good. So they're Geomax. Actually, let's go nuke the, um, let's nuke the balls. Let's go nuke Spires balls real quick. I need to get some good drops from this anyways. If you want spy or join a bombing. I think I might be able to solo it. Throw that in there. Marks so. Actually, we need to do this, let's cross. Allian. I mean the threatening does it too, but I think we could just do it very easily with It's literally our supers. I think I've been saving the checkpoint here. Oh, my shit's on invite only I you guys can join up on me We're gonna go. We're gonna go knock out Let's go do a run inspired. Oh shit Let's do let's do master So let's first say stasis surge No, no, let's just do master because we get two drops Actually three drops And I have a checkpoints, but I need to trade off the checkpoints Hey after Tuesday, no no no refund the bet. I'm not gonna say no. I'm not gonna say they're any long Let's see Probably tractor You don't get more from Master of Dots? It says on the menu you do. You not get more? Somebody look into that. No, you get tier 5's before that dark. Yeah, it's all about your score, my man. Yeah, you're good dude. I don't know at what level do you start to get to your fives chat? By 20 Guys if you're looking for spy runs joined up my man my fire team is open We are looking to cook this boss. I will need a trade off check points up. I don't have you. Mom, we really need to get the subs in here into the plan. That way they can just join straight up. We need to go there and just boot out anyone that's not active and then get everyone else in here. Who would like to join right now? Okay, nevermind. Oh, that was. Pan this, I'm gonna come right back. Let me get on my other, let me get on my hunter so I can get the checkpoints. I joined the clan. I think we have to make room though, guys. Shit, I hope it loads them in the right spots. Buren brad asked you the stuff that you did you my clan is a graveyard Got to make a new one, my man. Why don't you game with the original clan you started? Well, we started, we've had a lot of clans over the years, bud. So which one are you referring to? Or are you talking about like final act back in the D1 days? Prima was never my original clan. that was TTG. We're gonna look at Hi guys, I think we have a spot open we're gonna trade this checkpoints You're going to be doing random Friday of destiny. Oh yeah, I'm sure I'm sure. Were you guys getting 50% of bunches getting laid off? It's been circulating on Twitter. But I think all this, all tasks is also backing it up. It doesn't look good guys. We'll take a look in a second. What in the world is this drip brother? Oh fuck yeah. Hell yeah. Alright, who would like to join? I can send you an invite right now. Somebody wants to drop their name. We have spots open. Rob Zillers already joined us, never mind. I just do the mechanics like we normally do and I will run up tractor cannon and then pop my super and I think I might go to do enough damage just me to kill the boss but But I don't know. No, you're not going to do enough damage. Oh, that's a great equipment. Will we one phase on Master? How about that? Will we one phase on Master? Noggy with that 20 get-tossers! Kid with that 10 get-tossers! Ah, dammit, fellas, ah, dammit. Chad, please show some love for your Noggy, who's already get the 40 people in here subscription this morning. Hey, kid, thank you for the 10 as well, my man. to kind brother to kind you know i i i just went and be a big man and i i will say to my top gifters i really needed it you obviously flagged me down mods flagged me down because of the misdany and others need to be vip thousand percent what are you doing panelists what are you doing right now Would anyone like to join us? My PC crashed? Oh, okay, okay. Panless, you're betting against us, you're on my team. You're betting against, you're in my team right now, Panless, and you have a two next to your name. You're saying that we're not gonna build a one face. I need someone to take pan this pan this is spot right now. Do I have anyone that could take a spot? I Don't trust this shit. I don't I don't I don't trust it Pan this were you about to throw intentionally squirts with the 10 gifted sub's. God damn it squirt you come in here you drop the 10 gifted subs champion of the love of God show some love to squirt thank you so much for that, thank you, thank you. Oh man, there's been insider trading happening in this stream now, not me, but I'm gonna be honest, these mods, they sell us. Have you seen it yourself? Maybe rigging some bets? Yeah, I catch it out of the corner of my eye. I try to jump on it. Tsunami with a 20-gip deserves! Yum with a 10-gip deserves! The hell fellas what's happening this morning? What is going on? It's around the Wednesday right now They're gonna calm the hell down We're getting everybody in here Dude, thank you so much for the big tin gifted brother and tsunami with a massive 20. Thank you. Thank you, dude What in the fuck Go with the twenty gifted son main man's with the ten gifted Yeah, please drop some love and eggplants right now. Please drop some love and eggplants right now I let's see if we can get the one phase everybody Lot of you don't have With the 25 gift-ins-subs! What is going on in this- What the fuck is happening in this room right now? Scouts! Scouts broke on wild! With the 50 gift-ins-subs! I'm trying to do this fucking bus! Michael and J-mo also with the back to back team get this up. Can everybody calm the fuck down right now. Can everybody calm the fuck down. Everybody just chill. Just chill real quick. Hold on, hold on. I cannot be choosing to go. Hold on. come on, come on, don't be like that alright, hold on, hold on open the door, perfect I'll get this side go get guys go get dude hang in there boys hang in there y'all getting shit on I see I see y'all getting shit on here I'm coming back I'm coming back I got you, I got you, I got you. Okay, what in the fuck is happening? Happy feet with the team get to knock you to five. Jersey! With the 50 giftings! I got you! I got you! I got you! I need somebody to come to this street right now, scream for me! I've got a team with people that I'm not gonna say they're throwing, but You see for yourself right now. I got a look at this shit Please bring the balls over here bring the balls over here we go. There we go. There we go Jim Jim you fucking madman you the big dick it sucks. Holy shit What are you doing? What are you doing, Rob? Wait, hold on. What just happened? Is this not done? of the How did you die back there? That one does not count Jacks that does not count Rob fucked us and brandy killed himself No, no, no, no fucking does not count I'm down right now, hold on. No, it fucking does not. Rob and Brandon, you both are representing Xbox today. Quick fucking throne right now, or I will never buy an Xbox. Fuck, what are you fucking kidding me? Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Die. Look at the- look at the chat. Die. I can only tie, die so many times. Stop it for the love of God. Fucking die. Die. Go. Die. Xbox, turn off. Jesus Christ. Okay. We're ending with the 20 gift answers! All right, listen, listen. I want y'all to, I want y'all. Rob, you're super fucked us. Okay. You, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I, if you're teasing, it, it don't, it don't look like it, but you're super fucked us. Yeah, with the 1208 gift it serves as a very specific number! I need to see some eggplants in this frame. Danny, thank you so much for the 128 get this up. My venture, Danny, is VIPs and the two motherfuckers soon right now. By the way, we need to be doing runs with people today. If we were to do runs with something, what do people want more of? They want, they want, um, oh shit, I don't know, do they want more pants? Get the on! I don't know. I'm gonna just assume my Xbox voice here have never done this dungeon and that is completely fine. Oh, hey, Axon got it started, you know that? What the fuck is this shit? There you go, fellas, there you go. the hell is happening right now we should be good we're ending with a 20 get this oh shit yeah please drop some love in that cleanse right now for revving also for mr. Danny also for mr. doomsie thank you thank you guys very nice very nice that's what we love to see right there Come on. Pay that shit out. Pay that shit out. That's Master Man. That's crazy, dude. That shit is crazy. Everybody gonna get their grind down this week. Chatted, let's ever actually do this build. Like, did he ever do any of this yesterday or is he still like being miserable about shit. Which is fine. I'm not hating. I'm back as I'm kinda hating. Doom with the 10 gift answers! Dude, thank you so much for the big 10 chat. Please drop some love and eggplants right now. Oh, let's look at the damage. So here's the damage. Brandon did 49,000 damage. I did 44,000 Rob Rob. You just look pretty my man Rob just hit and look cute God is rating flux. Yes. Yes. God is accurate. Yes Yoshi with the digger Gober with the digger All right, let's do another, another. Yo, what's the build? Michael, we're just breaking the game, brother. There's no, let me show you an example. Join here. I'm about to show you how stupid this is. The build is cheese. DMG tweeted. What did Mr. DMG tweet? So from DMG right here, bugbarm, as we get into our last string of hotfixes, the team is trying to squash as many bugs as possible. You'll see some ability bug fixes next week and a slew of other things touch in a later update, but we are nearing the final delivery of patch notes. Some issues may not be addressed due to risk in Livon. Here's some of the questions we're asking ourselves in triage. As we process reports, could a potential fix break the game further? Can't take it. Could a change nerve enjoyment of the PvE game for the sake of balance? Could change nerf enjoyment of the PvE game for the sake of balance, Lyle won't take it unless it's egregious or trivializing billcrafting. As an example, truth is a bit too hot, leaning to a handful of guardians just standing around. It's shooting rockets without a thought in the world. No mods, no billcrafting, just top of raid bosses. get a tiny ammo backpack nerf in it, in to at least have folks worry about picking up some bricks during DPS, but we don't want to crater the thing. What if an harvest set looks a bit buggy while we hate some rough edges impacting your style? We may not be able to address it as a rush fix, could tarnish your looks even more. What if hunters are one-shotting opponents of BBB? Let's try to get that address ASAP, test it and release. What about the Titan bubble or the stackening, trivializing all of our in-game difficulty content? But folks have some fun, but get it patched up before final. SRA ties feels a bit frequent. Can we tune them? Well, if that breaks placements, do we have time to revert the change? What about a few months down the road? What if we regret making the change, change because it's leading to a worse experience with various connection qualities, leaving as is, four-way ties are a bit wonky, but kind of fun. Players don't like PVP modes and rotation. Can we change how often it appears likely not? may need it for triumphs, or we're seeing more players playing it than players vocally frustrated by it. It'll rotate out after a few days, leave it be. There are many, many conversations like these happening daily, teams doing everything they can to address your reports while setting up for the long haul. After our final patch, you may see back-end server maintenance for general upkeep, but any patch vehicle will be restricted to severe issues like widespread crashes. If you find not only crucible balance issues or one shot at the pantheon balls with the little investment bills will likely lean on disabling items, abilities or whatever the culprit is for the problem at hand. It's not the best solution, but we have the levers levers to keep things a bit stable. The finality of all of this is a bit rough to get into, but one is to set expectations appropriately. We are going to turn a blind eye to your reports, maybe limit it with what we can do, but we'll still try. Please do not hesitate to continue reporting issues to our health forums over on bungee.net. Thank you for all joining us for Monument of Trime. The team was overjoyed with seeing your reactions, videos, arts, stories, and love, and many have been loving the moments shared with you in-game. Not all of us are public-facing. Every so often you may have a D2 dev team member emoting you a hug or a heart after overcoming a rough nightfall boss, And you don't even know it's whether they're an employee or just community member show them some love with your favorite emote to Appreciate you always see you out there So what dmg is essentially saying right now is like they are they're going through everything right now just to make sure That the game is being left In a good place long term And a healthy place long term sandbox wise right and so there may be a few things that roll out Um And that's a difficult thing because destiny has never been I mean destiny won But let's be clear like this thing one was destiny was left in an okay place Sandbox wise, but like I mean you still have things like when it kills inside of cruise go all over the place but that was because If you wanted to play more destiny, you just want to play destiny too. This is this is it This is it for us And so they're trying to leave it in a in a healthy enough place place, because to be quite frank, the way things are looking outside of this month and maybe next month, there's going to be no one around on the bungee side to make any of these adjustments. I don't know if you guys have seen the news, um, but some stuff was shared around about. There was a post put out yesterday from, I guess, some, I think a French journalist or whatever said that, um, essentially what, what this, this Mario dude is posting right Now, I saw a post on Marathon Reddit saying that Sony is laying off half a budget that can hardly be true. Ken, it's, um, Paul says right here, I don't want to commit to it percent, but it's going to be significance. They don't have a green, they don't have a green light new project or green light new project and they can hardly throw 400 more developers on marathon. You also see some leadership OGs leave and I believe July, which is when Sony's deal cash vests for many of them. So pretty much what was said and what Jason Schreyer said when he said that significant layoffs are coming is that it seems like pretty much the entire Destiny team is going to get laid off, which is a lot of developers. Yeah, that's the bulletin new bungee is reportedly saying to lay off at least 50% of its workforce this summer around 400 employees following the end of Descent 2's live service development thoughts. The marathon really do this, you know, it's a combination of Sony, it's a combination of Bungie not reading internal goals that they said alongside Bungie years ago and a a big contributing factor to not meeting those internal goals were delays. You know, when, when, or when Bungie was reportedly working multiple incubation projects, the marathon was supposed to beta back in 2024 and potentially even release in 2024. It was definitely not supposed to release any later in the 2025 and it, it, it failed to 2026 and it's reception is not good. I didn't look, this is really not, not even me trying to shit on marathon. Um, it is not a success. And for my marathon, people that are like, you know, don't worry, marathon is still good. I don't think you guys are going to be too far behind us is what I'm saying because I just don't see anywhere in this universe where marathon can support 400 developers. So the math just doesn't make sense. There's a lot of games brother sitting at 80 80% I don't know what a steam reviews are but I know that Marathon's reviews are good guess what there's a lot of games out there guys that had that have good reviews. Hell final shape was the best rated expansion Bungie and destiny ever put out. It's like a 90-something on Metacritic. You know what followed that? Layoffs. You could be critically acclaimed, you could have fantastic reviews across the board, but if you're a live game or any game in general and you don't have enough people playing your game, you're not gonna be able to make your investment back. And that's That's what Sony's happen, happen right now. And the thing is, is like, I don't even know if Marathon is being kept alive because that's necessarily Sony putting fate in Marathon. Or if it's just because contractually they are tied to Marathon right now, or at least the, I don't know, I don't know. I'm curious to know what the best thing is for the marathon side of the, because they've got people that have been OGs that have been with Bungie for years on the marathon side. And so I'm curious to know if they just have an extra year on their contract, if you will, before you start seeing people dip on the marathon side. Oh, guys, you guys, and let me just say this, this is not just bungee specific. What is it? I think Xbox is closing down three studios. Multiple studios are getting out. The gaming market is rolling over. Or at least the triple way gaming market is rolling over, been rolling over by the been rolling over for the past at least a year and a half, but it's been rolling over, yes, exactly why you've been seeing all the layoffs. And you've got too many AAA games, too many acquisitions that occurred around the COVID timeframe with essentially games that didn't produce, man. I mean, there's no other way around it, I hate to say it. I wish every game could get out there and knock it out of the park, but they didn't produce. Destiny is a different situation because as you've seen from the numbers, that's why it's such an anomaly to me to see Destiny getting canned. And I know everyone's going to say, oh, but Destiny's so expensive to make. Well, Marathon's about to have 400 fucking developers just working on it. That sounds pretty fucking expensive. High five rush was incredibly successful so the entire studio got shut down. I wonder if it's an ego thing with Marathon. Yeah, because Sony, you gotta understand guys, if Sony came out and they shut down They, they, they decide we're going to lay off the marathon side instead of the destiny side, which let me be frank. I don't want either side to get laid off. But if Sony went in there and did that, do you know what that says? You know, it says to their investors, you know, it says to the, the, the people on the board that signed off on the, on the, uh, the bungee acquisition many years ago. It means they completely fucked up. That's what that means. This is their way of Khan, a saving face here. You see where I'm coming from? It's the way of, you know, the narrative is, well, destiny was already on its way out. Destiny was already, destiny already concluded. We can close destiny because that chapter was already ending. If they did this to Marathon, just three months after its launch. avoid, they're avoiding that because that's their heads. That means the people that championed this acquisition many years ago, the people that championed Marathon, the people that championed moving into the extraction shooter space, the people that said, hey, invest in Marathon and pull investments from Destiny, they don't want to be seen as wrong, but They are wrong. They fucked up. This is their way of trying to cover up, my opinion. This is their way of trying to cover up that fuck up. Let's just, they wanted it to go quietly. Just close the doors on destiny. All right. Try to keep marathon, kind of puttering along for the however long they can. Don't worry, the Sony people who made this decision, their heads will roll at some points. I don't know, maybe. I will say there's already been some, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it's more of a slap on the hands. Jim Ryan has gone. Herman Hulse, who was the CEO is now, was it co CEO? Is that his title? But who knows, who knows? Assistant to the CEO. Yeah, but the entire gaming market guys is just, it balloons man. balloon. And look, here's the thing, like, I think, I think the wider economy, we would just when we get into economics, and I don't really want to get into that, because I just play video games. But the system, in my opinion, broke post COVID. The financials, I think everything and everything is just how long can we kick the can down the road? That's the game we're playing. Kick the can down the road. And it's hot potato. It's hot right now in politics they know it's gonna blow up they know it's gonna be the biggest shitstorm ever ever but it's hot potato who's gonna be holding the fucking potato when this thing blows the fuck up and we'll see how long this game can keep going I feel, though, for my people that are obviously incredibly talented, who have been held back in the past, you're experiencing such a wonderful version of destiny right now. Let me just tell you that people that work on Destiny knew exactly what you want. They delivered it in this update. You know the fuck the thing? Um, I guarantee you people in leadership would have preferred this monument to triumph updates to be stretched out over a year long period. No, don't give them every exotic catalyst in the game. Give them three at a time. put one in the season pass, put another behind a paywall. You see where I'm coming from? I'm very grateful to the Bungie devs, the Destiny devs that went into this update and they just went down the list, the wish list there and started knocking out everything that we've been asking for. Not that we got everything. I said, I'm waiting at my player own house or my clan housing. But really, really, I've just been having such a good time. And I will say this, if a D3 ever gets greenlit, I think a lot could be said about this update and how they approach the Destiny 3 in its monetization, its paywalls, its FOMO, or in this case, lack of FOMO. I think the business model works for Destiny 2, the seasonal business model. But for Destiny 3, I think there actually could be a different business model. If you're looking for examples, there's a game called RuneScape. And to me, it's one of the best examples on how to run your live game and run one's community. As far as the devs that are getting laid off, man, you know, I just don't see how talented people like this that have been, I mean, think of these are the people, whether it was Michael South Tory, who cooked up some of the best music that has ever graced our ears. It's Joe Blackburn, who was Game Director for Destiny 2 and did such a phenomenal job, even with light bulb being what it is, he jumped on the final shape and made shit happen. For what it's worth, the team here that delivered Monument of Triumph, Robbie Stevens and Tyson and everyone that's been Womack and the people that you've seen multiple times who are incredibly fucking talented. I think they're going to go on to do some great fucking things. Dude, I think Sony is fucking up so goddamn bad. I think they're going to go on to make some great shit. And I hope those guys come together and make something potentially like a destiny in the way they want to make it and stay independent. And that is something dear that I would, I would keep my eyes on from its inception to its delivery, and I hope they do. Still think people are too rough on Tyson. A lot of people give Tyson a lot of shit because he doesn't necessarily have a lot of face time with the community, but I could tell you, man, I've gone to Bungie for years. I know leaders that put themselves above the rest, that place themselves out of reach. That doesn't roll their sleeves up and get dirty. Tyson is not that guy. That man was in the pits with everyone working. And he got the, he got the shit in the stick, which is, which is very apparent right now, which was how to, how to size destiny down and essentially try to create a world of destiny with a much smaller budget than what they had before. And I think him and the people that are there are the ones who fought to make sure we got monument to trial. Oh, my God, dude, I mean, look, man, I went, you know, let me tell you something, I've been to dad has been to probably bungee more than anyone. But I've been to bungee a number of times, you know, many times I met Pete Parsons, bro. None. He may be like, he's the CEO. Yeah, exactly. He's the fucking CEO. There were some big decisions being made. And guess what? As CEO, you should be in that shit. You should be having those conversations. Never saw Pete, not even once. No, no, no. This is way before courtship, guys, way before courtships. Where's Jason Jones and all of this guys, though Jason Jones, I think just about everyone. And those positions, they're removed, they've removed them, either been removed or removed themselves or are just very hands-off and you know they probably just want to stay clear of they got paid man they got paid probably just want to stay clear of it now when CEOs of themselves off from the bottom line, they've become so far detached from reality. Yeah man, you know, exactly. EDM of the five, thank you so much. Let me see the French journalists that they're talking about. Bungee layoff at least 50% of its workforce this summer. It's claimed Bungee Bungee could reportedly face major layoffs this summer with a new claim saying at least 50% of its workforce may be affected Bungee's also has already had a rough few weeks Destiny 2 recently received its final live service update called Monument of Triumph, bringing years of active development to a close. That said, the game is not shutting down, but Bungie has made it clear that this is the end of planned live service content updates for Destiny 2. That final update was not small either. It was a massive send-off for the game, packed with sandbox changes, rewards and returning content. The update also brought a big jump in player numbers on Steam and other platforms, showing that Destiny still has a loyal audience when Bungie gets players a reason to come back. Keep in mind, the numbers were so strong on Steam, it was damn near renegades and agifate numbers together. Okay. And double marathon speak, but who's dick measuring? But behind that player spike, the big picture has not looked good. Bloomberg previously reported that Bungie was planning significant layoffs after the final Destiny 2 update to put no Destiny 3 currently in active development, and no new project greenlit for the Destiny team. Now we have another report on this front, and it's definitely not looking good. Bungie Layoffs Group, okay. The latest claim comes from French journalist Sylvain, who shared on X that Bungie could be hit by massive layoffs this summer, according to him. He has heard that at least 50% of Bungie's workforce could be affected, including both permanent employees and contractors. this is the translated statements. And if that wasn't enough, Bungie expected to face massive layoffs of summer. I'm being cautious with this, but I'm being told that at least 50% of the workforce could be affected, including permanent employees and contractors, following the end of Desi two and the situation with marathon. Course take us with a huge grain of salt for now, Bungie, Sony have not officially announced this number even Bloomberg's early reports did not give an exact figure. I don't know, Jason Schreyer said significant layoffs. So even if the 50% number ends up being off, it would not be surprising the final number is high. Bungee has already gone through major cuts, Destiny 2's active elements ending, Marathon has had a difficult road, and Sony has not greenlit a new Destiny project. But Bungie's workforce situation to perspective the studio had around 1600 employees before its first major layoffs in 2023. Based on comments from former Bungie chief legal officer Don McGowan after the October 2023 cuts, Bungie was later reported to have around 13 or 1350 employees in January 2024. Not including contractors or Sony employees. Guys, that's crazy dude. realize what that means. We are going from a 1600 man studio down to we are potentially dropping down to 400. And I'm going to be honest, I don't think this is going to be the last set of layoffs because I just don't see how Marathon can support that size of a of a workforce. And, you know, again, I'm not trying to bring hate to Marathon here. I just don't see how. Do you think Desi 2 was doomed from the start with the higher ups that were there? Anything that could have been said long ago? I think Destiny 2 was during the moment that the game plan became, we need to size down Destiny. Again, I think this is just my assessment here. I think the goal was always to size down Destiny, launch marathon. And I'm, you know, you guys are saying like, there's no way in hell, Sony ever thought that marathon was going to hit big numbers. You fucking bet they did. I'm telling you, they looked at, they looked at marathon and probably thought, okay, well, Bungie did Halo. Of course, they had their time in the 90s, but let's talk about when they really They started hitting the big, they did HALO, essentially ran with that for a decade. They did destiny, ran with that for a decade. And they were probably expecting that out of marathon. And so the game plan was get marathon out the door. And unfortunately, you could write a book on all the ways that got fucked. All right. from leadership, sexual harassment, the changing of game directors, the art scandal, the fact that the game just clearly was not ready to ship even last year, the fact that arc raiders and Embark beat them to the punch at their very own game, and then marathon launching this year to good reviews, good, good, good credit scores, but not enough players. So ensure before 2023 layoffs around 1600 employees after October 2023, around 1,350 employees July, 2024, another 220 were laid off. So this is post-final shape with 155 roles moved to Sony with 155 roles. Again, uh, Sony started team LFG, which is making what was the incubation project code. Gummy bears at bungee. I don't know what gummy bears is. I've never played it. I've never even talked to anyone that was making gummy bears. I don't even know why it was called gummy bears. Sounds a little too cute for Bungie, but anyways, that's under Sony now. After July 2024, restructuring over 850 team members remained. Claims summer 2026 LA, obviously at least 50% affected. That's what's potentially coming here soon. Estimated impact at least 425 people have based on Bungie's last known figure of over 850. Please tell me a D3 is announced, dude, unless we get some sort of miracle from now until then, you know, I think, again, I think that's, I mean, a D3 is the obvious, the obvious choice. But all the people that were in these positions of leadership who wanted to pivot into these into marathon, you know, who championed the idea, the idea of being a multi IP studio, You know, that's not working out too well for them right now. They were following the trend in a backfire. But man, I know I talk about RuneScape and JigEx a lot, but I saw these lessons being learned in real time back in 2020-2013. that studio came to realization. They said, Hey, we can either be mediocre and making a lot of different games. I'm not saying mediocre. I'm talking like mediocre to shit and making a lot of different games because yes, they had they had executives that came in. They were all big about pushing into this multi IP front. They talked about the same exact things, a risk assessment, having multiple games, having multiple revenue streams, but the realization finally hit them. We can either make all these other games that won't capture really any significant audience or we can do RuneScape and just do really, really good with one fucking game really commit all of our resources to one fucking game. And I did it. They committed all the resources that making just runescape. Now it was runescape classic old school runescape and runescape three. But the point is, is they focus on the runescape name. It's why what they just launched a survival game a year ago, right? Early access. What's it called? Dragon Wilds RuneScape. Why? Because they know RuneScape is the bread and butter. They know that RuneScape is bigger than Jagex. Bungie doesn't like, I mean, look, I think Bungie leadership at one time or the leadership that was there at one time, didn't like the idea that Destiny was bigger than Bungie. You know, um, but destiny did become bigger than bungee and destiny should have been the sole game that bungee should have focused on. And we should have got all the things that we thought we were going to get, including the destiny TV series or whatever the fuck, you know, um, that's the spinoff games, Destiny Darkgaze, Destiny Warlords, Destiny single player games. That's what Riot did to Valorant. Destiny Extraction Shooter. I wouldn't do that, but I will say a Destiny Extraction Shooter, like a standalone Destiny Extraction Shooter, probably would have done better than Marathon. Not trying to throw hate Marathon, all right? I'm going, I'm going. A destiny PV extraction. Dude, there's so much that could have been done with destiny, even just, even within destiny itself. You know, the idea of destiny becoming destiny infinity. I'm down for that. I was always down for that. What I'm not down for is limiting the amount of content being put out and just, you know, the constant over monetization. And that was Bungie's game, that was Bungie's and Sony's game plan. Look, all you can out of destiny, fund other IPs, get them out the door. And you know, look, I get it, it's risky having all of your eggs in one basket. You know what I mean? I mean, look at your stock portfolio. Some of you have stocks. Well, what will everyone say? You know, you want to own a little bit of everything, huh? know, get some bonds in there, right? Um, but then there's that, that one guy that just fucking puts it all into that one stock, you know, maybe he's, maybe he believes in that one vision. Maybe he's looking at SanDisk two years ago and he's like, Oh my God, this one right here, this is the one. But that's risky. That's risky. Destiny is that proven IP all right the proven IP with a community that's very vocal and I know people are like across they complain a lot all right guess what I was part of a community the runescape community you know we did all the time we bitched we bitched all the time we also spend money we did that was our favorite thing to do was bitch and spend money. You did that too. Those two things went hand in hand. I don't know if you know that or not. You're planning is better than not talking at all. Yeah, I mean like really, we can point to so many games, that has no one talking about them, cuz there's no community that's there. They're not, you know what I mean? They don't exist. By the way, Bungie knows this. Justin Truman, who's studio head, he knows this. That GDC panel he did years ago where he talks about earning players' trust, retention, for delivery. Yeah, they didn't meet internal goals, they too many delays and, you know, I wish Marathon would have gotten out the door in 2024. When Marathon was first shown to us, I think I believe it was supposed to have a closed beta by end of 2023. I wish it would have gone out the door by 2024. And what would have happened is whether it succeeded or died, you would have known right then and there while most of the studio was still around and that if there needed to be a pivot, it could happen. And by pivot, I mean, Sony assessing literally in an AB test fashion, they look at final shape numbers, they look at Marathon's numbers if it would have launched in 2024, and they make the decision right then and there. How do we need to proceed for it just didn't happen that way, man. We can't go back in time, can't change that. It wasn't Sony's fault, a bunch of executive one in the fun time with Truth or Dare. Well, I get that, I get that, you know, I want to come from it and I don't necessarily think Zeigler did bad with Marathon, you know, if anything, it's kind of amazing they still got it out the door. Beware over delivery, you're creating patterns mantra in its consequences. I can't believe the best patch ever was the last one. know. There are life lessons and humbling lessons waiting for all of us around the corner. And I find the moment you stop to pat yourself on the back, the moment you elevate yourself as a As the entity or individual that knows, you know, that's the superior authority on a certain topic. Just my opinion on this humble pie is right around the corner. The moment I was, the moment we, you know, Bodgy was kind of like pad themselves on the back post COVID of like, you know, live service experts. I was just like, man, you know, that's a dangerous game to play. I think they've done really, really well at Destiny, but I think grace should also be given here. I think, You know, not everything is just Destiny definitely did not go to plan like its delivery was not some like orchestrated to plan kind of What day one or D2, you know what I mean? It was really just the grace of the community That's interesting. I got really fucking lucky did any other fucking game. It would have died Destiny got really really fucking lucky. It had a gr there was a great community there That showed up man and would show back up even after they got burned would show the fuck back up Yeah, we'll be jumping on more frame later this afternoon. studios about to close due to corporate wanting money scary to see what's gonna be left for gamers in the years ahead Well, I don't think as gamers. I mean, obviously this this really sucks but I Think indian was a double-aid studios like I think I think triple-a was the one that that's in trouble You know overinflated budgets way too much overhead way too much spending and Yeah, that's across the board that's everybody But I think the devs are gonna, you know keep cooking your smaller studios indie developers. I Think they're gonna I think they're still gonna do well Is the end result of everyone expanding and spending so much during COVID? Yeah, I think I really wish Bungie would have just stayed independent in Nimble. You know what I mean? State independent and nimble nimble, you know, just They didn't have to start all those incubation projects They didn't need a studio the size they have that's the other thing that's crazy man You're like, well, no, they already signed everyone says that they're like, they already signed the lease for the studio that they got. Okay. And we pulled the permits on everything. Okay, you signed you signed the permit for the studio. You didn't have to spend all that money to revamp it. You don't come from they fucking spent that money. could spend that money. What's even crazy is half the studio doesn't even work there. Not the studio works from home. Have this huge fucking studio. They completely revamp, which it's a beautiful studio. Don't even run gorgeous studio. However, though, When, when, when, when I, when I talk to employees and they're like, when employee tells me, this is my first time being at the studio. I'm like, what? So you guys don't even like utilize this space? You have a like why you know and again people are gonna say like whoa no they signed this lease for the studio okay you signed the lease for the studio you didn't have to overhaul the whole studio you could have just overhauled one floor if it's like alright we're only going to have enough people up here on this one floor. We just going to over, we're just going to renovate the first floor. And look, let me tell you something like it again, it's an ego thing because you want, you want to look the part. You want to look like a AAA studio. You want to show, you want to show the banners on the wall, the artwork on the wall again. Gorgeous studio. But you got me. I'll tell you what my, I, this is what employees want more than anything. Employments. Money. That's what they want. Fuck about multiple elevators. This whole damn art gallery. They don't fucking give a shit about that. They want to be employed. They want to be taken care of. That's your job. That's your job as fucking CEO. Don't have to have no fucking gym there. What do we Google? Now you want so you just want fat devs. Hey, man, you want to go work out go get your own go There's Jim's out there fucking you don't cover from look all I'm saying is this a lot of money was burnt in a lot of crazy ways and You know you didn't have to burn that much money you could have e's in that shit All right could have started off floor by floor. I used to work for a fabrication business years ago, and they were expanding. They've expanded greatly since I left, but they were expanding at the time I was there, and I'm just, they expanded smart. They stayed within their blueprints, okay? And then as time went on, as they were awarded more and more contracts, they would add more to their warehouse. They would add an extra bay. They didn't go in there and just go, we're going to load this bitch down with 20 bays right out the gate. When you're only using two of them, you see where I'm coming from. It makes no sense. You expand with your demands. Did they play truth or dare at work? I definitely wouldn't play truth or dare with any of those hard legs. Not the kind of game you would want to play. More to the point of the CFOs or the real corporate CEOs do nothing except build their umbrella man did let me tell you what if you're a CEO that's worth the fuck you'll know what's happening in the financials nothing will fuck you more than life than looking at your account or CFO or whoever the fuck and depending on them to CPA or anyone you depend on anyone to run your finances. You don't know what the fuck's going on. Brother, good luck. Have fun. That's a shit storm waiting to happen. What's Monday's headcount 2014? I don't know. I don't know. I don't have a lot of people. Name a point in time when Bungie has ever been a well managed company. man. There's a lot of speculation being thrown out there. There's a lot of people that have come forward and said bungee was on the ropes. Okay. But at the end of the day, you're talking about a company that lasted over 30 some years that continually expanded year after year. That's now, or has been for the past two years, downsizing to what will essentially be a fourth of what it was. That's disaster. Look, it may have had problems. We crunched back in the day. Okay. It may have had moments where what they were working on was incredibly capital intensive. But you still saw company follow trend that continued to grow and bring in revenue year after year. They definitely had a lot of drama. I ain't gonna lie about that. Bungie's had a lot of I'm gonna talk a little bit more about this. I'll talk a little bit more about this. I'll talk in drama. bomber of a video coming up soon. Sorry. I'm assuming Paul talked to some people. about this one. I am guys. Yeah, we'll be on Warframe later. I love what Warframe is doing over there. Yeah, Zeta, we can run it with burning vikings. Burning, if you want to do crotas then we can. We can nuke them instantly. Monday at 165 days before working on Destiny 1, the 10-year Activision Deal, maybe there's hope. I could tell you that number, if that would have been like very, very initial, just Bungie expanded big time. Just the people alone that overhauled the Tiger engine for Destiny was based on Luke's research on it because we made a whole video on it. 300 people. 2014 bungee at 500 employees. Yeah. Well, here's the thing, guys. If bungee was going to lean down to say 400 people, maybe 500. All right. But I just don't think marathon is the game man. That's all I'm saying. You know I'm coming from you're saying like So bungee was 400 people in 2014, maybe it was I haven't looked or 500 people in 2014. Yeah, but they produced destiny There's so many fucking people This is not me putting hate on marathon guys I'm saying marathon and their team is It just seems very large, considering what the game is bringing in, that's all I'm saying. This video's up. All right, let me piss. Hold on. Yes, Sotom. Yeah, hold on one second, hold on. you you you you you you you you you you you I Be back to my post that video I'm that was What video is it? Alright, I'm back with another Destiny 2 video, and not a fun one. You know, I've been relentlessly positive about the update, which I still am, and there is good news in the sense that it is very cool to see that Destiny has maintained over 125,000 concurrent. Paul, why are you wearing a marathon shirt? What the fuck is that? Is our man compromised? What the hell is that? You know the other day I put on a shirt too, and I was just about to walk out of my house, and I caught myself in the mirror. It was a marathon shirt. Can't believe it. That even made it with the washing machine and onto my body without me noticing. Players every night for the past week since the update dropped, let's say double that at minimum on console and it's a big hit, obviously. But, you know, there's some rumors going around about what's happening with Bungie, there's stuff out of Bungie, and then, you know, this idea of, well, this is a hit, like what, you know, what happens now? Like, okay, so it's a lot of bad news. Some of this is like already public information, some of this is like me poking around. But there was this thing going around from a French journalist who I don't know who said that 50% of Bungie is being laid off soon. I am not confident in exact percentages, so I'm not going to like confirm that. But there are going to be significant layoffs at Bungie, unfortunately. This is not the first time this has been said. I think I said this earlier. Jason Schreier said this with his piece. And I mean it's inevitable given the situation that we're in. If you discontinue your biggest game, which at least half of your employees are working on and you do not have a greenlit project to switch them to, you are not going to throw like 300, 400 devs over to Marathon, which they've already moved some over. And then there's just, you know, what do you do with them in their view other than lay them off? Like the whole point of this bunch of stuff is that they are burning cash and they are unprofitable and paying hundreds more people to even go work on marathon if you're, say, throwing all your eggs in the marathon basket or having them do something that literally just got greenlit when something like that would require a more smaller team to get started. not going to do that. And this leads into the second obvious conclusion that if you lay off all of the Destiny team, or if you don't lay them off and just move them, there is no one to continue Destiny 2 content and no one to start making Destiny 3. Even in In the wake of this well performing update, I asked my sources, is there anything that this has done to move the needle to change things based on how well this has been received, how many people are playing? Testing's been third in Steam revenue for... Got up to number one. Pretty much a week. I think it dropped a little today. Is there anything that has changed? the one word answer I got back is no. So all of this is kind of already set in motion. It's already done. I don't know exactly the timeline for these layoffs, but I don't know. Sometimes the next month or two is most likely, because now that this is released, How can that not do anything? We fucking showed up. I spammed D3 from the shitter every day now for the past three weeks. We fucking played the shit out of this update and we're still going to play it. what are people working on. Also in July you're going to see some amount of leadership or like OG Bungie people depart the company, probably, you know, not laid off because this is because the various deals people have their Sony shares or profit or whatever vests so they can, you know, get out of the deal and go do something else earning lots of money. And we've already seen And some people do this, Chris Barrett lawsuit is kind of based around this, because like he was fired, you know, allegedly or whatever for cause, and that's still in courts. And then he was denied some, you know, big payout because of that. And he's, you know, that's kind of that whole thing. But if there's no controversy, you leave and you get X amount of money or whatever. I just, I could be married on people too. I'm not even sure. But if that happens, it might happen somewhere in July. that may not be alongside layoffs per se, but it's all gonna kind of happen, I think kind of around the same time. And it's just like there are zero indications, you know, publicly also that this is going to continue on. What are you saying, Sombra? Sombra, did you subscribe to this channel? Or did someone gift you a sub? I'm just wondering. Don't get quiet now. Did you subscribe to the channel? Or does someone gift you a salt? Maybe the Sombra. I don't know if you're not recognizing your name right now. Did he just leave the chat? Did he just straight up just leave? Did you just straight up... Oh, AVD. AVD Sumbra. There you are. Did you subscribe? Or did someone... Or did someone gift? I know what you said, but so this is a beautiful thing on Twitch. I've been able to look at all of your previous comments. I use my prime here. Well, today, buddy, I'm going to save you five bucks. Well, now, now, now. There we go, there we go. One second. Okay. Matt, what's happening? DMG keeps posting about like the last hotfix, like, you know, we know this is the last update, but they're literally about to like do the last update or hotfix for the game in terms of like fix. There's literally gonna be no one else around bungee that can fix shit. You know that, right? You realize. Let me like, damn, there's some broken shit right now in destiny. Can anyone here fix it? Nope. Nobody even knows. Saying, you know, bugs and stuff with gear or whatever, to the point where he's like, yeah, pretty much anything going forward is just going to be if there's some sort of like game breaking crash. So they are not even keeping, you know, forget supporting destiny to somebody kind they're not even keeping a small team around to do like the bare bones of what it would require to you know keep keep this game from breaking at least through content or your gear issues or whatever like it's going to just be done and all of this is you know near term I've said before that my optimistic view is that I think the destiny IP still has life in it whether that is in than a new kind of different project that gets eventually greenlight incubated, or if it is Destiny 3 in the very, very far-flung future. But for now, it's like over. I mean, I think there's reason to play Destiny for a long time given what they've added. If you're enjoying it, I think there's lots to do that's fun. I just wrote about how you can grind out a million cosmetics from Ngrams if you want. but in terms of Bungie support, there will be zero. And it sucks because I know people see these numbers and they're like, well, surely this must be changing hearts and minds over there at Bungie leadership and at Sony and like it just, it hasn't. I maintain that I think this is stupid. Not even, you know, this isn't even totally a dig against Marathon in terms of like picking the right horse, blah, blah, blah. And you know, there are real issues there about like, okay, the cost of supporting marathon is going to be less than the cost of supporting destiny. That said, that has its limits. If you're still paying, you know, 300, 400 people to work on marathon, that's not cheap. No matter what the content is, you're adding. But like, if I got asked, dude, I mean, look, I'm not trying to be mean right now. Why Why does Marathon need so many people? The content pipeline set up. Night mode? got night mode this this past season I'm not trying to hate right now but it's not like like a destiny we would get these huge you know we get these active brand new activities that would cycle into the game alongside a narrative they're adding weather effects. All right. You OK? How many people work on RuneScape? You can't compare RuneScape. It's a different kind of game, guys. Yeah, Jagex is a different kind of studio, just like digital streams and Warframe. You can't compare the two. Uh-oh. Okay, and like the terms of like manpower. You compare it for everything else? I'm saying that their way that they recovered is the comparison that I made. How many people employed, employed, employed by Jigas? Damn, that many? Jesus! That's 600 to 700 people. I didn't know that. It's a lot of people. I want to know who's running their financials 2013 I was looking at when did Jx when did they like people off. In 2013, they reduced staff by 10 employees. That was evolution in combat. By the way, that's how like evolution of combat, which literally killed the game, resulting them, I'm not saying I feel bad for the 10 people got laid off, but they they only they only laid off 10 people. I was saying out of the 700 man studio pretty It's pretty fucking good. It's pretty fucking good. What are we talking about? We're in skate. Yeah, how many people make, how many people work at GGG? Damn 240 people work at GGG hot damn they good 240 people they got two games they got Path of Exile 1 and Path of Exile 2, they are efficient. It's hard to really, because Blizzard is huge, man. Blizzard is, says right here, Activision Blizzard total, the corporate group maintains estimated 7,500 to 13,000 employees worldwide. Yeah, there's a lot that goes into that. Final Fantasy's 14th core dev team is around 400. Doesn't death seem to want to have a maintenance crew? No. Now that I know I think the destiny to maintenance crew kind of like they ever needed to do some of D1 They would take care of it, but no oh Yeah, yeah, that's actually a good question how many people at embark Embark's been hiring like crazy here lately embark studio employees approximately 400 to 430 people They got two games. They got the finals and they've got our creators But they've also been they've been hiring a bunch These are extreme currently employees, 450 to 600 people globally. Nice. I think my two games, they got soul frame and more frame. Yeah. It's always about just total dollars and cents. And like a lot of this is a wider industry problem. Like we're hearing all these reports of like just insane budgets and like a lot of these aren't verified, but it's like, oh, It's like, oh, Gears of War cost 400 million, and Perfect Dark cost 800 million, and a Destiny 3 would cost 500 million. And even if those aren't exact numbers, they're probably not out of the realm of possibilities. So we are going to be scaling back in many, many ways. And it is frustrating to see that this is not happening with other somewhat similar games. Warframe is just going to live forever. And that has found a way to retain its player count to a significant degree. And then I just posted about, like, I didn't realize this, the division just launched, the division two just launched a huge update and is continuing to make at least some amount of content and that is while they are making the division three. And this is Ubisoft, you know, not exactly the best of project managers on a good day. And yet somehow Sony and Bungie cannot make this work, which like seeing this update, it feels like they're, I mean, dude, Ubisoft is still, they still greenlit a division three. And let me just say, I like the division a lot, but let me tell you how bad of a time Ubisoft has had. If you bought Ubisoft stock, if you would have bought Ubisoft five years ago, you would be down nearly 92%. you would have went from $59 to share the five. And even they, Green Letter Division 3, has to have been a way forward to some degree, even if it was reduced, if they fixed so many of the things that were wrong with the the launch of the portal and edge of fate and stuff, even if it was smaller content, I think that they could have probably reduced costs enough to make Destiny living on something that they should at least consider. Totally atomizing the entire team down to like the people who do hot fixes seems incredibly short-sighted and reeks of just horrific mismanagement of Bungie and this franchise that is like an all-time live service franchise in an era where you are allegedly trying to look for live service hits. And like, I know Sony got fleeced by, you know, Pete Parsons and the Bungie leadership in terms of like the, it being very overvalued, but like they're still valuing it like a $3 billion asset, some. You know, I've often said, I wonder, why did Bungie, they got the lease in the studio. They could have expanded with the size of their workforce. and expand with demand, which would have been the proper way of doing things. Unless you have to look the parts. You see Pete may have wanted Bungie to look the parts. It's 200 or some thousand square foot studio fully amped up. All dulled out. Sony comes in, they're like, hey, what's happening? Sony walks in, they're like, wow, this place is pretty nice. He's like, that's right. We cook like that. That's just what I do, man. I'm going to go take a look at my course. And look, Pete could have been doing that. He could have been playing that game. And you know, you can be like, this is where the sausage was made. That's it. Developers in there all smiling Waiting for Sony to acquire my ass Do might have just been flexing just to get the biggest price point possible Wow even with all these you know impairment losses and it just seems so counter to everything else they're doing. They've lost outright just hundreds of millions of dollars on these other live service offerings. I cannot see anything in the pipeline that seems like it's going to be a live service hit for them, whether that's fair games or the Horizon Hunters gathering. It has plenty of problems with its single-player games like Naughty Dog not making an entire game for an entire console generation and one that's gonna cost, I don't That's probably four or $500 million or whatever. And that is going to be a game most people play for 40, 50 hours and then move on with no microtransactions. So great. But if you're going to put that kind of motion behind that sort of game, and you're not going to do that with, what would almost certainly be a profitable live service? Like if you could get costs even remotely in line, that seems crazy to me. But all of the seeming crazy, all of this, like, you know, us being aghast that, like, this hasn't moved the needle and that these layoffs are moving forward and that support for the game is just being obliterated. As of now, like, that's what's happening. And not to say that things cannot change, but we are getting really close to some likely deadlines for, you know, these layoffs and end of support and things like that and we are we're too far down the road I think for that to be reversed and even if this update managed to get this many players and you know set couple the the player count temporarily it's just not enough to look for like a week of that or a month of that is not going to be enough for Sony to green light a 500 million dollar game like that that is not going to move the needle specifically I'm not sure there would have been a number I think this could have broken the all-time concurrent peak and they still probably wouldn't have done it like I don't think we really had a chance here as much as we wanted to support things and then there's this whole debate about like should you support marathon or hate marathon or whatever I don't know if either option really matters I think it's better to support marathon just because it's it's less shitty I know everyone thinks I hate Marathon, but I'm just really reporting the numbers, which are not good. If you like Marathon, support Marathon. If you don't like Marathon, don't support. You know what I mean? Come to that. It's very black and white. You gotta like the game, or you don't. Is that it? I Definitely don't believe going over there and throwing money in the marathon. It's gonna suddenly give us a destiny three I'm just being honest with you guys. I don't think that's gonna happen You know, you you spend your money how you want though, I don't give shit But I don't think that's going to lead to that You know So if you're a destiny player and you're a destiny die our player you've played marathon Maybe you don't care for it But you you see the narrative being pushed that support marathon will give you a destiny three And you go throw all your money into skins and everything else in marathon Again down the road you might get a marathon to before you get a death same theory. So, the fund should be the other way around. other than just like brooding from marathon to fail in which case bungee absolutely shuts down and then there's the idea Like if marathon is great, then it'll just look more marathon Probably true, maybe but it's better than bungee not existing at all There are of course larger questions about the state of the AP if Sony could sell that somehow or Put a different team on it. That is cheaper like outsource it I don't know, that's all like pie in the sky stuff that we have no real idea about, it's just speculation. But on the ground, what's happening now is we have a really great update to play for as long as we want. Game is in the best state of just spending years. And it's dead, at least in terms of new content, in terms of greenlit future stuff. Like this is it, and unless something just wildly dramatic changes, which you know, like it's a wonderful lifestyle. Like it, it's nothing we can really do matters outside of like showing all the people that worked really hard on this at Bungie that we really love what they made and that we're going out on a good note here. I think that's important. There's an article in Aftermath, it's a newsletter where they interviewed a bunch of ex-Bungie people and like what they're all proud of and stuff. And like it's really, you know, kind of touching to read And even I underestimated this update. I previously, I heard about it. I'm like, oh, well, monument of triumph is just gonna be like upgraded moments of triumph and like nothing they were talking about. It sounds like crazy good. And then they talked about a lot more stuff and I heard from people like working on this and they're like, hey, like don't be an asshole. Like this is a ton of stuff. Okay, okay, I'm sorry. And then it's like, oh no, shit. I was very wrong and this is awesome. So that was, it's been very cool to see. I've really enjoyed this just totally obliterating my expectations. And I don't know, I plan to play this for a long time. It may be in and out, it may be just stupid things that I wanna do, like collect all the catalysts or whatever, but I'm not ready to just leave it behind forever. But like there's no way that we're going to see it live on in the way it needs to over time. You add no live updates to a game, player count will drop, matchmaking will get harder, etc., etc., our friends will leave, and it's, I think it's always going to be frustrating. And I guess, you know, the moving through the stages of grief to acceptance, like I guess we have to get to acceptance, but I don't think we have to completely erase anger and depression either because that is something obviously this inspires for very long-time fans. If I hear anything different, I guess I may or may not report it. I don't know, announcing something super early that might just be a whisper of a rumor may not be helpful, but I have been looking into this this whole time and unfortunately I cannot report back anything good outside of what we see in public, which is the numbers and how good the update is. So, you know, I don't know percents of layoffs and whatever exact timing, but brace yourself for things not to be good for, I don't know. I don't want to say forever, but it's truly the end of an era and we will see kind of what Bungie does next, whether that's how they're trying to transform marathon and whatever, or if they get something actually green that for an incubation project, I know I would certainly be interested in that, even if it was something that was years and years away, hopefully, Destiny-related. But again, I think this IP is too valuable to just abandon and light on fire forever. Makes no sense to me, you would do that. And if anything, I think this outpouring of support and people returning show that people do want to play Destiny. They just needed a reason to come back and play Destiny. And a patch that fixes so, so many mistakes certainly was a big part of that. but ballooning costs, like huge expectations and just kind of the industry not really being able to fit something like this without a lot of concessions combines with, you know, perhaps poor decision-making and here we are. So, sorry to be a downer, you know, and I don't know, kind of usually a downer and I haven't been about this update, but there's been enough stuff flying around where I thought it was time to make this video. I don't know, I'll get back more into like, I'm doing this fun thing. soon but yeah for now I don't know people are probably going to make news stories out of this and whatever but most of this is not really news news news it's just kind of what we all knew was happening but anyway thanks for watching and I'll talk to you soon. My thing is man I wish I just would have enjoyed things more like had I known Renegades is gonna be the last campaign experience. I feel like I really took my time with it, but I would have taken more time with it. You know what I'm saying? I would have taken more time with it, man. I would have enjoyed DP, you know? And I enjoyed DP, but like even more so. I just, obviously, I wish we just would have had more, one more like raid campaign experience, just one more. or even if it wasn't completely finished, man, like you know, man. Boys and girls, the Destiny community, you did everything you possibly could. Let me just say this, I'm so fucking proud. You did not go gentle into that good night. You rage and rage against the dying of the light. You fucking did that shit. You spammed D3. You let your voices be heard. You showed up on the ninth. Y'all cooked, man. Y'all really cooked. It's been wonderful to watch. To my developers, I look forward to gaming with them inside of Destiny 2. We may be in a situation where years from now we talk about how much Destiny meant to us, and that may just be that. Hopefully, at some point down the road at D3 does get greenlets, but I, I'm just like my, my thought on this is, is if it wasn't greenlit in 2024 post final shape or leading up the final shape and if it wasn't greenlit this fucking year, then I just feel like it was just never on the table to begin with because like in 2024 the comments from Sony would have been well let's see what episodes are going to do before we make a call on on doing a sequel. Okay let's let's see how these midsize expansions are going to go. Let's check out Hedge of faith. Renegade. See how that plays out. You've seen it play out and you see that it doesn't work Lest it's not equal more Try it as much as you want But it'll never happen that way And I just feel like Sony made up their mind a long time ago about a destiny three And unfortunately that's that man Claude, make guessing three, make no mistakes. Some road marathon shooters in here right now, cross, let me get my sword back so I can handle, I can hand out timeouts. Clune you just you know learn how to do the mechanics in spider, okay? We'll talk about You handy got bands afterwards Mac you'll take a sword My back's still hurting, Clint. My back's still hurting. Why does somebody got to buy up things I love and then shut them down as soon as they hate them with the passion They keep doing it to me. Well. As fucked up as this is going to sound. I these are these are these are some of the reasons why I think Bungie was acquired. Uh, reason number one, knee jerk reaction, because Microsoft was acquiring everybody. Reason number two, maybe just maybe. Just maybe it's a foreign maybe, but maybe this is Sony fishing Bungie could be the next Mojang or the next like, or in this specific case, Marathon, Marathon could be the next big game. That's what they were back in. Marathon is going to be that next big game. And by, by relation to that, Bungie could have been, you know, the equivalent investment of like, Ryan McAmmie or Mojang getting acquired by Microsoft, right? The kind of the kind of investment that goes up five six thousand percent you soon are saying I know way fucking out there but there's always that you know that's specula that that's speculative part of any investments you know all hype normally but still and third I just think that there was just so much liquidity around that time. So many, so many businesses just had, there was so much liquidity pumped into the market. Everybody was just like, it was, it was a time of exuberance. Everyone was like, trying to find places to put money, or in these cases, corporations trying to find places in jet money into. And not only was it, was it, um, so much liquidity in the market, there was so much just easy money. You know, when you go out there and get, you know, loans, essentially 0% interest once, you know, once you cut out inflation, like, like, that's fucking crazy. It did what it was supposed to do. It was supposed to and stimulated did but I should have been a story-based FES It's glad talking shit about us on Twitter, oh my God, yo bitch, he says, glad I will never stop talking about destiny. Well, that said, I'm like one of those. What was that tweet he said? One of those dudes where his hot ex girlfriend leaves him. And he just won't stop talking about it. You damn right. Don't know what the 32 month thing is. I don't care if it's true What is that damn that's a damn good focus No feelings All right, I pretty good pretty good All right chat Look if you want us to shit on Argos at tier five Right if you're like five feet Join us now I'm about to show you how we get it done What you need you need Geomax Oh, so we get this shit on right you need Geomax you need chaos reach and your artifact needs to look like this five feet August by the way does anyone have Checkpoint for Insurrection Prime, I need to get the anarchy cat us Better crash did better crash not stronger. Oh, no, they're chaos rich puts out And puts out a lot of it puts a lot a little more damage than um, I Think I think six chaos reaches we can fuck we could fuck them up bad Yeah, anybody want to join? Bro, this artifact sheet is destroying my comp through school matches. Oh yeah, people are leaving the matches. Is it Cobra? How long do you think Destiny 2 servers will be up? Probably forever, guys. Destiny 1 server still hasn't been shut down You're gonna cheese the five feet emblem. No, I just want to shit on Argos five feet. I'm not gonna cheese it Today, but I'm gonna form instruction primary. Yeah You have the instruction checkpoints, I'll do it But I'm looking to do Wait, I don't want to reset my checkpoint. Can I join him down in a clan? Okay, I have a checkpoint. Guys, my fire team is open. Do I not have clan mates that want to gain? I see. I didn't realize that my clan was full of bitches. Good. Mont, I want you to boot 20 people from the clan today. It doesn't matter who just find me 20 people to boot from the clan. Let's do this. Hyper um I'm thinking they game post article instead of Paul's Video, yeah, I'm thinking no no no to Paul's video Nothing is Paul, but you know I'm pretty sure we're gonna instantly nuke on this on Argos here. Your name is Imagine Dragons imagine dragon these days stop. That's not your fucking name. Biff. With the five get the sus biff thank you so much for the five my man chat please drop some love in eggplants brick little hey you guys that are joining right now you're bringing you're bringing some cheesy shit right don't be don't be joining up with me and You gotta be you gotta be on the sauce brother. I might be to live with two of you not being on the sauce But I need at least three maybe four of us on the sauce So I got you brother, I got you. the team is coming together oh yeah we need to be doing a ray with donkey soon I told donkey we're gonna do a ray with him you know I'm so terrible back answering deans I'm like shitties fucking fucking I'm so shitty at it dude All right, I think we got everybody. All right, a full squad is here. I'm going to now swap on my Warlock. GeoMax, pretty good. Thundercrash is good, too. Social Media Manager? Oh no, I like to handle my own DMs. I want to see those dick pics First hand By the way, the dick pic slowed down fellas with the help. Ah We're like a couple years ago. We were getting them every other email now No, actually easy easy. I'm fucking joking right now. I'm fucking with y'all. I'm fucking with y'all. Don't see me No goddamn doot peeps Inflation All right, look look we're gonna we're gonna shoot the left one the one on the left side guys Do the one on the left side I Don't even think I can get a tractor somebody get a debuff on this thing. Oh my god. I'm a warlock No, I'm used to jumping down on my tight Alright now we do it, now we do it, now we do it. Fuck, you guys don't even jump, you just float. You can track him, but Fafnir is easier. All right boys, let's do it! To the left, to the left! Let's go! YAAAHHH! That's in gas! Was that not amplifying? Why are we starting right now, we're starting. How am I going to get it both disamplified? Is the easiest way for me to become amplified? What's the easiest way for me to become amplified, Jack? Oh lightning surge that do it Is lightning surge really the best Hi All right guys, let's make sure I did not I forgot the requirement Make sure we get up we get a debuff Alright, to the left, everyone! There we go! Yes! Yes! Yes! AHHHHHHHHH! Good enough! Good enough! Good shit, fellas, good shit. Ugh, ha ha ha, limited power. Ha ha ha! I pretty good run. I got a better one already. Bewildering? Okay, that's perhaps a pretty solid. All right. Now we're about to do the exact same thing, but we're gonna do it too. So you guys hold on up. Show, I want you to, show, I want you to bring everyone with you, buddy. Make sure the team leader, guys. I'm gonna I'm gonna get on my my warlock actually my my hunter. I got a trade checkpoints Um, here's the thing we need some we need callouts for this this raid encounter Chat this adding feats this adding feats rates increase the drop chance for an exotic catalyst of that given rate or is it just RNG? It's just RNG. Why are so many people in here confidently saying the wrong answer to that? why What was that what it sucks on this boss what sucks on this boss my super my super sucks that I come join me right now Why, why would it suck at his boss? That might do. I got a full squad. I'm on Final Fantasy 14. We tried it yesterday. What does it do? It's because it's a brick. Did you try Chaos Reach Delta? No damage for some reason. Did you try Dremmings? Some of the team did. don't even hit. The bubble time cheese works though. We tried it and just doesn't damage, threadlings are asked to, I don't know if it's just not worth it. That's interesting. Okay. Well, let's just try try the arm try the bubble cheese I Need to get the I need to get the catalyst for Terrible is anyone here have the the checkpoint for Gallon anyone have one for gallon God, Jesus! What are we what? Did it did it? Piece of shit while I was gone. Are there no times here? Oh, here we go baby, here we go. oh my god do it to him baby do it to him oh no he has to hide around we got to get some crossbows in there hold up oh shit something fucked up oh no oh god it's not looking good voice it's not looking good almost almost you got it baby keep it going I Wish you'd I run Is adapting Wait, why was this show kicked? What happened? Oh, he's still swapping to the Titan? Okay. I, too, am swapping to my Titan. Let me get my Titan. I'm going to bear a bet. You can push him out of the map instead of sending him to orbit. I'm eating gas station sushi about to spend the rest of my work day in the bathroom Hell yeah, brother. Hell yeah. I'm gonna be honest, I don't know if I've ever seen gas station sushi. It's a California thing. Only time as good as in the wide. That's what America is all about, Cross, why don't you do high road blocks? There are moments that I find the rule to be, you know, alright, you know, I, I like parts of life, I suppose, but three tells me she's like, we need to travel more. I'm like, I travel every day. I go to the moon. You know, I take it to The Neptune. I'm traveling all the time. I went to Europe. Oh, EDC. All that traveling, I can still sleep in my own bed. It ain't all the travel for nothing. Dude is this not working Thanks brick I can't pick up my shit now good shit bricks come to me we may have to do this with jay we're gonna try to teach one more time Let's try it one more time. It's my main, remember Crota's then back in the day, pulling the ethernet cord? The amount of time it took to cheese Crota, you could have just done it legit. You go learned it organically and executed it legitimately. We were so committed to teasing him What the fun of that No fucking way! Oh my god he's mad! strong stronger Fuck him up boys. Fuck him up I Where are you going brother All right, we're fucked. Well, now I feel committed, let's try it one more time, who's the last sign? Last sign. Imagine doing the Ray the proper way. Oh no, right? Imagine. There's somewhere in the chat I have a gathering checkpoint. That was my persistence stat, 21. make it higher do it boys do it you're the best cheesers I know greatest cheesers I I know we're made for this. Oh, you're jumping up and doing it. Oh! Damn! Oh, is that me? Fuck you up! Alright, here we go baby, here we go. Yeah! He's too good with it, he's too good with it, he's too strong Jeff. He's too strong, I can't hold him off anymore. Don't punch? Really don't punch? What am I doing? He's got so much aura. Might probably get him tinier. Just run into his feet. I just was a pun. I just was a punch I need someone in here to give me a gather and checkpoint Hi persistence so your arrows will last longer all right. Oh my Jesus Christ I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that. All right was that was that one for three home run indeed to the moon what the fuck what what is happening oh no this guy can't get me killed He buggered at me down! He's a bugger terminator! Alright, I... Let's try a different gunner. Surprise motherfucker. We're gonna come back. We're gonna come out. We're gonna do that one legit. No, no, no. People have booted him off the map. I mean, he obviously didn't die. All right, I'm gonna do G.O.'s. And I'm going to put myself into this one right here. Look, if you're joining up, we need comms right now. So you gotta join my discord. We are about to farm for Terrible Scatalysts. And then I'm gonna farm for Anarchy Scatalysts. Let me grab. We're doing Thunders again. Still got to go through the initial damage here. They just clear the cross. Are you fucking with me right now? I'm loading I'm loading back up you can load up on me I've got the checkpoints you were the problem? Sure, I'm sending you an invite, just bring the whole fire team with you. Add feats? Why add feats? I thought you said that the feats don't increase the drop chances of the exotic catalysts. Are you bullshitting? Actually, hold on. I got feats on. for the tier five commission. All tank patients. Five feet increases the drop chances of the exotic catalyst. Bullshit. Where does it say? Point me to the literature right now where it says that, point me to the literature right now, I will, I don't fucking believe you. The catalyst is random, people talk out their ass, no one knows for sure. You can use logic inside of Destiny, guys. If you're like, well, logically, the harder the content, the higher the drop chance, right? No. This is destiny. That's not how things work. Actually, logic makes no sense here. You know what else that doesn't make sense in this game? Rounding. All right, y'all show me the shit. I can't believe y'all just did this shit without me. I can't. I believe you'll do this without me. I chalk it up to space magic. You're the one who left. Appreciate that. Don't come in here. to create a rift between my teammates and I this is this is our this is a bonding moment here not there you're gonna get it Oh, it comes down to me, doesn't it? Boys, I didn't want to be the hero. We have no choice. Alright, somebody defucked him up, dude. You know what I'm gonna do? Somebody defucked him up. I do cyber. I do. I have a 31-persistent crossbow. He's right there on the edge! He's so close! You have to double melee. The second one is the launch. Oh, really? Okay, I didn't know I'd react this many professional teasers here That they beat your ass This is second hits Oh my god! Chad, I was so sleepy the other day after doing 5 v-pants here that I couldn't feel anything. I literally couldn't feel anything and my son, God bless him, made chicken nuggets for us. And these fuckers were so hot, they literally burned the skin completely off the roof of my mouth. but I didn't feel it until the next day or until I do something with that because the skin was coming off but I couldn't feel it dude I see there much in the shit out of chicken nuggets Oh Fuckers are pretty good All right, buddy, get him get him professor cook I too should join you good sir All right, hook is down. Hook is down. Here we go. Here we go. Do this just once man! Don't jump really don't jump really you want to melee from the ground Okay, really of of I Need to work Did it work? I feel I have a feeling it did not work I'm a feeling it did not work. No, fuckers coming back in No Oh Shit What's gonna look at that man and be like wow everyone give me use bubble here, huh? There's so many bubble users was really like above of you feel too old lord Oh Lord that's just cheating dude. I did wrong. Shad! Okay I need a higher persistent crossbow. Yeah it's not working. Let me take a look at crossbow. Here we go. Here we go. Well we've won right here, baby I got 56 persistence on that one The spring auger bolts fuck up guys The amount of time chasing you could have done one legit good of Lucy you'll never understand the joy of choosing a boss with that attitude though with something beautiful about it yes you can do it the way you thought and we will But I'm happy to say that I think I've used about every cheese against bosses inside of Destiny. Mostly. Mostly. At least all the ones that uh, that became known. I've got uh, 66. Get physical Get him boys, get him Yeah! Oh god! Why do I keep going backwards? Why do I keep going backwards? I don't have enough time. I don't have enough time. No. He parried you. Man, I still don't know who he's on. It's because you're punching, that's why you're backwards? Or that I'm told you want to punch twice. I had plant bets. we cheese him the next two runs this a damn ago come on box and this shit back back let's get it next two runs next two runs That is that is by the way our damn our eggplant that thing is broken Luke I need to reach out to get rekt and figure out what's going on with that. It does not work for about a week now. It's just lock and never gambling is it's just lock boys not good one man down Oh my god he's back dude how how how does he change the bus to work? I Bosses cheating you down Come on fucker drop that ass do it you Yeah, I'm doing damn No! Dude, I- Ha ha ha ha! Dude, no! This fucker! This fucker! Y'all are full of shit! No one's actually cheese-ed this guy! No one- No one is actually cheese-ed him! There's no way there's no fucking way we booped him off twice It's your mega form fast Watch this video good for fucking that's a tear No! of Hmm Shit! We suck ass! Sliding jump I Mots paid out started new bets I don't know where they are. Let me get let me get this first one Cyber you just don't you don't you for say I Cyber fucked it up But off just doing it yourself. I did watch a video through Orcus. I did watch a video. But it's a little orangey. Are you coming in here and busting my balls? I'm not a motherfucking... A motherfucking... Are you fucking with me right now? Mods you can unbend Arcus when a dozen trees and nabs It's super indecisive I literally only came back they said they did it a second ago I Damn monkey with the team get themselves Grouping back rides I only one of us going there to punch him right now. Who would like to go? We're only gonna send show I've ever I was anything we're doing it legit we already did it yeah yeah no but I do want to go and do this cheese just once look at this Yeah. Well. Put on a square reborn? Yeah, I know that. Alright, show us down! you're up cyber monkey much left you my man much left he's jbfc with a prime thank you thank you mind if you're gonna unbat our shoes right now I Don't believe these guys. They said they did in a second. I don't believe it That's not going to work, he's going to come right back. Yeah, he's gotta be moving much faster than that. Never. She has a marathon sphero. People wear marathon shirts, rock and marathon spheroes. All right, I'm going to get this one more time. And then I'm leaving. I'm going to go form Galar and also form this encounter. Really, we should just do this encounter. What I got a hunter on my hunter as a chick one you need to use heavy boats on the bow Gathering I thought gathering drops the terrible countless rights Up against the wall guys do it up against the wall What's that? Wait, wait, wait. Is the anarchy catalyst not progressive? I SAVE what the deadgift is saaaaaaaze! save with the big 10 thank you so much my man anarchy is but terrible isn't oh so this time I'm worth going for terrible right now terrible anarchy is not I thought it was uh, I thought it was uh, Jotun's D-back, right? Jotun's actually, that's actually really good for him. Good for me. Ah, Joe, I say thank you for my time. Check out these guns and love. Oh my god. Oh my god, alright fine guys, let's just do it legit, let's just do it legit dude. Good lord. Let's give it one more time, we'll give it one more time, one more time, it's the last time we're going to cheese. I never get to do it again. I'll reload this. I Looked you with the most but well no, I'm being told the artifact cheese doesn't work on this boss Somebody look into that. I'm being told that the artifact cheese for whatever reason Just doesn't work with this boss Chaos may work with Divinity, we didn't test it. Voko, you wanna join me right now? We've got some people here that I think are going to be leaving right after this. It seems not. Well, Divinity may actually work. Divinity might work. Stop shooting the front of the ball, only shoot the back. Oh, only the fact! Okay, okay. Ooh, are you right here? That fuck is going to spawn in right here in the middle, forget him, forget him. I don't think I can do it. Oh my god, who's back there? Damn dude, damn! No luck boys, no luck. Cyber, I've literally watched you do this 20 fucking times and you've unsuccessfully done this. Cyber, I'll give you your own go. Cydre, you give one opportunity right now. If you get it first try, I will make you a mod in this stream. And allow you to execute two mods of your choice. What happens if he fails? Is that ass? Can I also get a lick up and down? Loco, close your eyes, extend that tongue, just let it happen. I Cyber says he's got the ships I'm sorry, but what happened? What happened? hahahaha How did you do the pre-leg? Mods That's Recybers name So that I may do this myself I'm going to get on my warlock and we're going to see how warlock us. We're going to try the cheese. Wait, hold on. I'm going to get my hunter first. People that are joining right now, I need you to know the mechanics for Insurrection Prime. Why do I need you to know the mechanics? Cuz I barely know the fucking mechanics be honest with you. I'm just being real I Turn that off No, it's ACP it's fucking ACP throw a job This ACP, he don't even, how does he even make sense alphabetical order, ACP. Oh my god, dude, cab wasn't even a turn back then. Alright, join on me and join discord cyber you could join actually cyber do you not know the do you not know the encounter cyber do you know the encounter We're gonna do this encounter legit, I need people in comms. Warlock Jesus and work boss, Clune, doesn't work with divinity. Remember, I just had this whole conversation with low coaches now. Does it work with divinity? If divinity is propped, will it work with warlock? Klune, you heard what I just said? Clone, you have to- I'm working, I don't know. Chat, don't be like clone. If you believe something, you need to do your own testing and verification. I don't know, I'm at work, but stating things as fact when you yourself not tested Also coming in here and flexing your employments good for you good for you you. I need people to join. Who would like to join me? We're doing three feet. We're going to be farming Instruction Prime for an anarchic analyst. Mac is testing things. Every face, yep. Is there really no one else here that knows the encounter? I know it, but I can't join. I'm sorry. That's okay, Loco. I know you're working on the list right now for every weapon in the game and the rating system next to it. That's completely fine, but take your time. It's a lot of weapons. It's approximately 400 weapons in total. So spend your time on that one. Kiddosas, thank you so much for the gift, my man. I need the checkpoints. Look, if you're gonna be a checkpoint hoe, you can go to checkpoint bots or something, you know what I mean? That's fine, but we're actually doing the encounter here. You go to you're gonna lock checkpoint bots Check one body struggling All right, let's see I'm gonna go get back on my warlock we're gonna try cheesiness with divinity What's wrong with checkpoint bots was there they do you're just overloading him by the way if you're in this race squad join general and then I'll drag you also four around or Q, God, oh, get man. That's when you know the game is cooking. So how are you gonna kill this shit? It's raw with y'all. Do you stream on weekends? I do, my man. Or at least Saturday. Something I do at the spend time with the family. Turns out after you have children you actually have to spend time with them. I don't know if you do that, I didn't fucking know that before I ended up with them. I'm going to be there. How about joining? Who else is here? Who else is here? is everyone very familiar with this encounter yes yes we're gonna try being told that the cheese doesn't work but has anyone tried it with divinity it works with divinity it does all right that's just a house features that with the floodings as a chaos reach threadling on the threadlings to work and we're with a chaos reach gal ron by like going up from his sack upward it worked let's let's do how many people have dundas with chaos reach that's just I think we can nuke them like it's in one phase no problem What did you say? You said start on a sack? I don't want to press, but I mean I'm going to use the restroom and we're good to go, okay guys? yeah so we got about a 15-minute wait you know he's going to the bathroom not getting food so I think we'll be okay Dude, all I'm saying is if I got that free lick beforehand, man, what a guy. I'm all on the side of the valley. Like this. I All right, let's do it. Who's reading that? Okay, what groups are we in? Professor go underneath, play angle. I'm going to go under first. Yeah, I honestly don't even know. Your shadow just ran around and followed us down to- what's the- what was I even doing your shadow? I think we won't- I would go underneath first as well. I was going underneath and hitting square is what I was doing. I Triangle There's only a circle Yeah, I was going to do something underneath before we get server. Who's got diff here, by the way. Oh Nobody's got diff on I guess that's it. If you I would say if you're not teasing put on diff Yeah, I got you The bitch it is. That's with Sony filing, who was it that filed the AI thing? For video games. I wonder if there's gonna come a day where people won't play video games anymore. Like they'll play video games, but then like halfway through the video game they're just gonna go, Jesus take the wheel and then the AI is just gonna kill the boss. You know what I mean? They're gonna be, they're gonna be, they're gonna be killing, they're gonna be fighting in Elden Ring and they're just gonna, they'll be like, I have been shit on 30 times. and then AI takes the wheel. All right. All right. We got Dave on the good. I think that's what, I think that's what Loco was doing. He was part of the first group and then he just sprinted the map. Yeah, I see that. Who's in my group with me? Who's in my group? Two, two, two, two. I'll be the last two. Me, Brandon, show us our last squad. Okay. I'm gonna put our first squad so then I go read. Okay. Let's go. and where they at are we all down here yep we're looking for a single mount am I with the first group on this? alright I'm a triangle I'm a circle I'm a sperm I'm just a sperm three two one One, melee. I'll kill Cerberus. I don't know, I was gonna... Take this 4B down. Yeah. I didn't... yeah, I was gonna go first group so I could read the map. I feel some other distance to get started. Alright, what are we doing to get out of this? I don't know if I can read map here, it says just to be the first group to get, so then I can read. Where we going to kill this guy? Right, right, right. Nice. Nice squire. Thank you. If I'm going down to someone reading. I'm going to this boss. Let me out. it is going the process first one I have second one bottom right bottom left so cross is going bottom left bottom left is in you're facing the front boss right now that's left yeah and these are you go to the other side yeah we're on my All the guys Feel breaking I can read math for this one. All right Duncan now Bottom right was not the call for me How do we cover them this? Very good. I'll go read. I'll go read missing buffs you get buffed. Game grand need to get buffed. Are you down cyber? The only people that don't have the box that's down right now? Yeah, I think that's our blood preserter. Facing some fights. Oh well I think it's wiped. So we just had a poor call on that, is that right? Yeah. What was, um... Let's show... Let it show, be part of our first group, so then I can just get out immediately and read map. And I know I know but it's the word about it. Okay me crossing Joe for first group in Okay, I Just show them happen and second we can go down So then I'll stay up top and I'll get And go on the second one Oh, I understand. It's up to them to go out. They would have crossed us up. You were talking. All right, so we're going underneath. Yep. I'll get square. I guess it doesn't really matter which one we get right here for first skirt, right? Yeah, and last night we were just like, Just wait for the rune. Okay. One of each of the ones is dead. There's four down there. And then we were just matching with whoever had our matching for DPS. I Have Triangle Because I'm not far right side. I'll kill Brick kill Brick He's on my phone, right? I'm going to do it now, I'm going to do it now, I'm going to do it now, I'm going to Yep, he's here. Well, do we go under? Yeah, let's see if the second thing that we go under. Is everyone down? I swear, we're under. I'm not circle. I'm not triangle. I'll drop the first one, dude. I got the first one first. Bottom right. Both bottom right. Second one? Okay. You go first. Both bottom right as in, you're facing the boss now. Space in the box. Now. Yeah, it's night closest to show to I guess my right your left as I'm coming out You guys can tell server there whenever you got a chance I got it in If you guys feel free and then it will be a little less Reserker. Middle left, I'll go to that. Be free. Right here, no. We're done. Thank you, boss. Still alive. You said middle left. Middle left, yep. Yeah, back up, I think it. I Got the I don't think the bosses shields are down yet Yeah, I mean I've just showed the shields I hit the critspots Everybody got snipers and then just so so just one person needs to be on the time correct Yeah, you just want to show them and then damage What do we say the orders for DPS was it ACP ACP Okay Let's say like last night before we went down like across and show like we can just take down like a couple of weak points Yeah, we were doing much nine. Oh, yes, right. We can do that. Oh I think we're missing a dunk while you guys are in this and we could probably deposit or at least you're going down there is it Yeah, we have enough time I'm getting this crystal in the back Be point There's two back ones need going I was on my knee, his left knee, it's gone, go on, shoulder, you know, shoulder down, other shoulder, got nice. Alright, I'm going to square. Yeah, I made a thing. Are you guys in? I'm not in with y'all. Yeah, I didn't hit yet. I'm ready. I'm waiting on y'all. I didn't hit any I did I was in front of the bridge, we kill the bridge We're just having a crew of three and this is not my plan I'll just come to you We're done Is there a reason why you're close? I hit first Okay, okay I can help you, sir Is anyone pick up trying them? I'm left I didn't pick up a thing I'm taking them square I think you have 4 people down there right now I'm pretty dead Alright I'm gonna back out I don't know Top block is over here Okay. Can I see Brig anymore? Uh, I'll be alright. Can one of your boys kill Brig? Yeah. I can preserve the two top right now, I can protect them. Uh, middle. The middle's actually top. Like, all the way top at all. Go top, okay. I'll go second. First, bottom right. Hold bottom right. First, uh, bottom right. Hold bottom right. What? Monkey! With that dragon gift it's us! Thank you for this. Yeah, good thing. You ready to damage? No, no. So, we're doing ACP? C.A.P. C.A.P. C.A.P. I'm out of here right now. I need one of y'all to go ahead and get the um, get given there, get given there. I'm getting out there by the millions right now. I'm not getting it really. You should have died. Dude, CAP, motherfuckers, you're standing on this. Middle. It's like a triangle. God damn it. A in the middle. Just like that. All right. I'm going to show y'all real quick. I'll show you real quick. What does discharge radiance mean? Oh, that might be my fault. Did it change there? It probably did change there. It changed there. Okay, okay. What did I do? My bad, my bad. Look, for real though, um, I need, um, the div guide just to call out as soon as, because I can't really see the bubble. Just call out whenever, um, you're doing the buff. You still have to aim for his eye. Good. Uh, second group, let me get, let me get the top one, ay, just so I can get my thunder crash off, at least for each. I won't grab this time, uh, early. You might pick yourself whoever's reading map, Mars. Uh, the first map we could go is on stairs. Uh, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm grabbing this. I can tell you where you're going, there's a map out there. When you come out, you'll be on the left. Shoulders on back down So that's it. I'm gonna need it. I'll go I'll go right I'm already here at a triangle I'm not square So whenever you're ready, buddy. Yeah, you got it. Yeah We're gonna go under yeah, no now and again let me get a Hand map once again the triangle But he said top left circles first it's top left yet There we go. There it is, it goes over on the top. Got it. I'm picking up first one, follow. Got him left. And top knit. There. We ready to punch it? We ready to punch it? We're gonna bring it to the top mid too. Yeah, punch it. Punch it already. Oh. Where's the Brigade? I got it. It's down there. We're out. Yeah, we're out. Make sure you're getting anti-flying. Don't look at the damage, guys. Yeah. The next one. out make sure you're getting answer five don't look at the damage guys yeah the next one it is bottom right are we doing DPS on map side or base in and that's on yeah I think wherever he's facing right here bottom right first pickup and top made in a second tanks in the spawn on the top one tanks gonna be on new cross hi guys, you ready? he's facing us David's up. Why am I getting all of them here? I don't know, I'm getting all of them. Graph, we switched, we switched, we switched. I'm at A's though. Everybody's still on the way. Yeah, let's go. I don't know why David's not fucking out. I was hitting all the means in the first phase with my chaos reach bro. Yeah, we worked to make it that easy. Take a look, take a look. Like it's true? Good. Here? No. There's no barriers. I do my chest reach on and then when he goes back on it. Refurbish is really good. Yeah, if I had a refurbished on because I was just mainly using like LMG for like active clearing and shit. Look at the damage. See, we just get all the means on that. Yeah. And now we're... So I did. My damage hit by a bad previous hit was fine. I could do like 90. So it's my respect. I got a lot of the means and then I just swapped to my alone as a god why is my chaos reskidding amuse yeah I was in the right spot reminds you I was in the do the end it was no crits like the bubble wouldn't pop I think if I switch to Snifers meditation, I think we killed it, got the inn there. Because we could. You get immune regardless, the thought works. I'm on the side, I'm making my way back in every time. Let me get, uh, let me know, I don't want to get crying anymore. Who's, who's... There's someone else. I'm hitting it from the seaside and it's... I don't want to mess anything to do with me being... Did you have Angler right there, Lisa? Uh, I had P. For that first one. Yeah, I don't know. I guess the left knee is the one. Don't hit that one. Don't hit that one. That's bad. No, that's intended. That's meant to like, kill you. Very good middle. I got C. Three from the top. Quick dead. Going under. Yeah, me too. Make sure, like I said, let me get triangle. You guys are going... Trac was on the bremsen. How many are there? here wait it's been tough back with the top left we're like all the full this time we can melee it i'm the first one break when you guys can bottom right and then top middle I'm looking for Brig. On my side. Brig, come around. Where's the berserker? Bottom right. Second berserker. me ask the question is the immune damage because our other person who asked the buff not standing in that spot is that it? I bought him right for a year and top mid, top mid second. Alright so whoever is on C, everyone needs to be in the right spot. Like a triangle a is always gonna be directly from the boss when we're facing the boss See is always gonna be left Like a like a triangle is about getting in place and the same with you, okay? and take Hey, cyber's got it who's on C with me? I face the boss guys, Vincent. I'm coming to you now You know you you said to be one or the other So did you happen I didn't have amplified no, I didn't have Do you want an easy way to get amplified? Yep, sure do Okay, I think I Think boat charge stacks right when you get fully boat charge stacks aren't you amplified? I think yeah, that's awesome uh Artifact are you doing limit break or thunderous retort? Yeah Here here stand right here stand right here pop your pop your boat charge artifact your uh, you should run Wait till you wait till you get 10 stacks see what happens I think it's Flash over. Yeah, I just keep a couple of tracked mobs alive again there. Yeah, I'll do that. I was on P and I was hitting the Mew and I just moved it slightly like I wasn't even looking at him and then it started showing damage. Interesting. I had moved it slightly left where I was hitting his arm instead of his face and it was working. Just captured, just don't want to work for me so I'm swapping. Way to drop your name come show me how to do it then buddy. I'm all ears my man I just I just feel like we should keep working this guy I'd sue for these Make sure just everyone here needs to get amplified. I'm literally just using lightning surge I'm not sure I'm having fun. If there weren't, you could just slide me in. That was awesome. Thank you. There you go. I'm not throwing it. Hit mine. Ready? Right there. Good grade. Good sign. Right there. I don't know how to get my right one. What does the job do? Circle. cool where did you get that square? where is the square? we are not taking the burden to get crossed out alright we are down come on, keep moving bottom right is uh bottom right you said is the reserve? bottom right Look on the on the if you're a let's back it up a little bit. Don't do a full trial Cyber and professor don't grab square I just got an teacher. No, I'm coming back grab square Okay, do your thing buddy We know the person with the upper circle If we do right, what was the color? Okay? bottom right Wait, I think But I'm right and top then We can kill break I mean cooking it up The second is bottom left. And he go back and grab another one and now So I've already grabbed one like I picked this one up Well, I choose someone there bottom left we got another We'll pick up cross and make them go bottom left Everyone in here is taking advantage of the ball, correct? The artifact mods? Yeah, it's not working for me. Not worth it. With that second group, let me get triangle. Who's in that one for diesel? Yeah, it's doing the amunes and low damage. You've got like 150k that last round. I'm not even getting any kind of super high damage. Are you you gotta are you making sure you're tethered and try shooting? It's like the damage is obviously really good I'm in my right spot. I'm amplified under she tore all that and hitting amunes or just low damage So I just walked So now we're required to pull cheese with people? Ray? Sash? McRot? No, I'm not requiring us to be full cheese. But if I ever play with you, thousand percent I'm gonna have to cheese. Because there's no possible way you and I will ever successfully be able to do a rage run together without you being cheesed at your fucking mind. You gotta be fully submerged in that shit for us to make it through that encounter. Even the ease of rage encounter. You make it fucking the most legendary, salvation's edge, conquering the goddamn witness. It's a do or die life or death situation every time we've raided together That's locked hold on have y'all got anything decent. Yeah, I got a triangle Hold on I still gotta get mine guys You can come out Yeah, let me get triangle. Rezaker is... Middle left. Tell his brother to break when you can. Thank you. We're out here These are worth we're gonna kill each other I'm running first bottom left That's berserker. In a second I have to kill my... Prince and that berserker is copyright. Okay man. Even foolish he's the best the best couldn't carry me I'm trying to pay me to carry you Fucking I'm ready. What is the last shit? I'll grab thank you. You can get ready Brent But we try to let me try to make me fucking feel bad for you right now Yeah You're just such looking at you. Yeah, I'm a start this I'm up to those ankle firm. Yeah and the tanks The on bremson be over here is it y'all the on shelf do it on move move move if you need to move we're taking damage you're not gonna move who do you are the other crits are gone Professor, what was your buff right there? It just wished to be, I was switching over, I was taking damage from somewhere else. So, this is so strange. The round is, people are just dying right here because you're not... Look at the buff on the top of your screens and swap to your location. Yeah, mine was A, mine's State A. So I stayed in a Looks like the bolt charges causing you mean to happen These I really think your damage would be appreciated here to go back to G is You get the just to get the kill off Okay All right boys this we're going on our fifth time here, okay You're this motherfucker No, we're gonna have another fifth time dude. I know people then that just picked up this game last week I got a clear before us right now I mean, I gotta I mean I got the clears last night. So I mean I don't want you want me to do I want you to do better. What do you mean I want you to do I literally told you I was reaching the last 3 tries bro and it wasn't working and I swapped bro. I'm not the one dying during DBS. Sorry. Let's just try before we just complete the give up on Chaos Reach right now. Why don't we just try one more time. Make sure we're tethered in the right spot. spot and see what I guess they're on the left you should watch out oh no I have not got my guys hold on I wish not for that triangle on brends room oh he didn't agree he didn't agree left mid uh that's the first person first person kill brending breg is mid he's on map dead they're dead they're crossed and it's left middle person first person again i'm picking a triangle And that is That's fair What's the color? Left middle Axis, take this big armor He has a cap Thank you I have that, bro Yep, perfect, I do Fuck me bottom right, bottom left, like the blue surfer is bottom right I will be on C. I will be on A. I will be on A, it's worth it. left. Up mid. We can make him face the top. I can take it off fast. At least somebody's grabbing him so I'm good. Are you ready? I'm pushing. Don't get to the mid. Don't get to the mid. Every coming yeah, the crits are gone right there No, I fucked up there at the beginning bar these did you get it here's that time? That's so weird. I'm not that time. Okay. I think it literally resisted to have the risk you come before Oh, yeah, that is true that is true I can have multiple mmm, that's a good point I'll make sure to get Amphibied this time. That's the name you clear. Hopefully I'll get Amphibied. Got the Shreds now. I am going in right here. Are we all going clockwise? That's where don't kill yet. I need to find one that No, I think it's literally between you two they're not you have a good kill group whenever you can grab a burst bottom left and second bottom right I want you to place that tongue starting from the front. Take your way to the right. Preferably stopping in the middle along the right. that could be zerk or bottom right well whoever's angler we're gonna back up a little bit okay almost like a service doing a triangle just three of course so that I got I got breathing room or who's who's angler actually is it is the thunder crash angler professor yeah okay okay now we could be a little close to bottom right which is I need to make sure you and I are both dead and... Bottom left. Can we do the continuous go? Grenade's in. I'll show it also. I'll be with you. Grenade. Grenade now. Alright, that's our lid. Damage. Professor, I'm coming to you right now. There's the big one. Just hit him. Switch, switch, switch. Switching, switching. Oh my god, that's so hot. There it was. I believed I never, I never got it. There's a thing I was telling you. There it is. first oh my god are you serious damn damn wow the u's just u's just i fell down i got 5 bombs that's awesome i hope this thing floats man game's easy i'm so jealous well boys it's been a pleasure you want to do some mom y'all do gallery or y'all go y'all go I'm assuming y'all are still going for an okay right I'm down again just I come down with you guys oh my god I gotta the one two punch trench barrel roll I guess that's the guy roll huh that's a Titan God roll but okay That's what is what is a swashbuckler role to me? That's a shit you literally play into Um Yeah, let's look around go do some callus I'm not callus. Yeah, we're got it gather Big chunk is I'm assuming we're gonna instantly nuke them as well Oh, yeah Take a look I was getting a lot of amunes right there. That was literally all you guys show at 144 these are you so good you are right though when you hit the chaos reached to the left like literally the left side for whatever reason he was able to get him in his armors I'm sure it's weird let's go let's go run this chat at clean bed will we get this first try oh it's my memory farting link professor sorry on the plot no worries man I'm going to add in a few feet yes so I want do you? I don't think we need to do it. We don't need it. We don't need it. I think we're going to, unless you can't over damage Galar. I can't remember. I don't know. I think we should be okay. Just instantly. You kind of, you kind of want to face and like not directly at him. You kind of want to be under, like underneath him shooting up, if that makes sense at an angle. For chaos? I know. For chaos. Yeah. I know. I know. Needle storm works on him, too Yeah, for chaos at bottom ever needle storm you could just I mean you're still hitting him in the head, right? I'll track turns who do You're we chaos was you're still hitting them in the head, right? I mean that's that word what you're talking about You are you just talking about general placement engine? The best way is like from bottom to top just because of hitbox we found I was like tested on a on a 5 feet I'll have tractor so I'll tractor and then oh, yeah All right, I'll start off at first buff who's on the side with me I'll do it You just have something good for hands Yes, I first be good for this Yeah, what did you say start from the bottom the top what? Oh? Is this where you say start from the sack? What do you wouldn't? Yeah, so from the staff man, so you chaos reach the sack and then you you be like you you come you come up Kind of like this like you're like under his sack looking up. Yeah On honor come over and get this buffing me. I need it. We're ever see reverence in the buff We need a person Did you get it? No, I'm not. I'm gonna give it to you. Just one of y'all get it. Then cook them with you. I thought I was just randomly saying that some of the balls act. I mean, I've never done it. You know. You're crazy. I think so. I'm gonna suck. you can get terrible catalyze at us yeah but i've been told you can't progress without a person can't fudge grub all the grey catalyze we're starting to get on the show alright let's uh let's just walk with you I thought we could hop We could either run away or just go Okay, one's down here with the bomb Ready? Uh, we went for middle There we go Get that idea me killer alcohol I wouldn't even give me give me the post for that the post for that the mic's so high for hold on the edits I got 18 seconds I'm unbuffing good job We got our shots you raise your hands I think I'll get left, I'll get left. Oh yes. Oh we have the right one, the one on right. Can we get boss over here? Or whatever. And then work your way to the sack It's like he's like like lock set. Thank you. I'm like lock set I'm sundered like if you This hitbox is like weird. I mean you're probably still good to be honest if we're juicing but If you're doing cutthroat you wouldn't get it Mods find this tweet. I'm being told there is a tweet. I gotta read this real quick, but we're gonna do it all. All right, so this is from the gentleman that leaked the 50% cut coming to Bungie and he's I guess he's followed up here. You asked for it here are more details about Bungie after speaking with my sources including some at PlayStation what stands out is mainly internal resistance strong pushback. Many people at PlayStation don't understand the decision made at the top the discontinued destiny to what some of told me there's a kind of desire for revenge as Sony's leadership reportedly blames bungee for a number of issues with their games as a service strategy wait what what is happening right now The exact number of layoffs planned on Bungie is still being determined, but I've been told repeatedly that the target is indeed 50%. So one of the questions I hear, why can't Sony tell Bungie to just not cancel destiny? Why does Bungie leadership have more say than Sony here? It's not the exact who are against the closure and Bungie did not decide to stop destiny too. Okay, I apologize, it sounds very different than the statement in the original tweet I would delete. Yeah, it sounded like, it sounded like Sony didn't want it, but he's saying, after speaking with my sources, including some at PlayStation, what stands out is mainly internal resistance, strong pushback. Many people at PlayStation don't understand the decision made at the top to discontinue Destiny 2. Okay, so that might just be talking about the people working at PlayStation, especially on the media side. Yeah, yeah. Some have told me that there's a kind of desire for revenge as Sony's leadership reportedly blames Bungie for a number of issues with their games to the live service strategy. Is that gonna let us still plan to be around 50% okay? No, no, no, no, no, no. Guys, there is people that work on the PlayStation side. Listen to me on this, listen to me, because I know I too was like jumping to conclusions right there. There are people that work on the PlayStation side that oversee things like media or bungee, okay, the trailers and everything else. Great guys, by the way. I actually met one of them in LA, him and his wife, lovely people, and they've cooked some amazing, some of the trailers you've seen here recently, they've cooked, that's on the PlayStation site. So after speaking with some of my sources, including some at PlayStation, so people like that, what stands out is mainly internal resistance, strong pushback, many people at PlayStation, those being those individuals, Don't understand the decision made at the top of this continued destiny to don't understand the decision made at the top of Sony. Don't understand Sony and why they would discontinue destiny to some a told me there's a kind of desire. So this is internally at PlayStation was the kind of desire for revenge as Sony's leadership reportedly blames bungee for a number of issues with their games as a service strategy. Do why not just blame the people that were actively back in Concord? That's what you're mad about, Sony. If that's what you're really mad about. If you're mad that Concord absolutely bombed and you now have one of the biggest, like, if there was a definition in the, in the dictionary next to fucking dead game, you know what I mean? Like, like debt on arrival. There you go. Debt on arrival. Concord would unfortunately be the definition of debt on arrival. And I'm not saying that Bungie didn't play a part in this, but as far as I understand, the detail or the funding for Concord was occurring before the acquisition of Bungie even took place between Sony and Bungie. Yes, Bungie did say that they would help with shipping games to the live service. But I don't know, Bungie was the one who told him to go put St. $400 million in the Concorde. Well, yeah, I mean, look, man, some of the people that worked at Bungie that made the double primary system that made destiny to PVP vanilla, those individuals went to go work after they Deported bungee, and you can just, I'm not trying to talk shit right now. You can use your imagination, ask yourself, why would those individuals depart bungee? Well, yes, they too was not very good year one. People internally at bungee was not very happy. And so those individuals, those developers left bungee that, that were committed to that double primary sandbox and they went to go work on Concord. Don't forget the original D2 director. Well, yeah, I think it was like one of the original Destiny CEOs, right? also was over fire walk. Yeah, a lot of the ex Concord guys were bungee deaths, but I don't know why you're going to play bungee for that. You know what I mean? I don't know, dude. I mean, Sony was trying to make the Naughty Dog. Wasn't the last of us going to have a live game and they, and they canceled that or they, they budget didn't cancel it. But they, they had a meeting with an auto dog and with Sony and whatever occurred from that meeting was essentially don't make, don't, don't ship the game. I'm going to be honest. They must have been bad. Bajito Narada, what it takes to keep a live service, and they canceled after that? That's a good item. There's ex bunting devs who let Concord. Yes, but guys, they got, look, you know, like, um, Yeah, it's a small world. It's a small world. You're in that Seattle area, by the way. A lot of these devs, they hop back and forth anyways. But this is such a s- like I- I- What's the in-go- in-go here? So there's a kind of desire for revenge as Sony's leadership reportedly blames bungee for a number of issues with their games to service strategy. Games to service, sorry. I'm not a premium strier, so I don't have many characters available. So wait, let me get this straight. Sony is seeking revenge or is bungee Sony executives are seeking revenge. I'm probably being petty right now. I don't understand, though, dude. Like, if you're being petty, I'd be petty. Were you gonna sink the whole studio just to prove a point? Why? You lose more money that way. You know where I come from? Oh, you're gonna prove a point. Now, let's watch a $3 billion asset go to shit. I mean, if you want to be petty about something, go fucking, go after Pete, like for real. You want to push legally? after Pete then, if you think Pete took you for a ride, and overinflated the value of the company, you can do that. You can definitely do that. But why take it out on the studio? Why take it out on the studio? And what point are you trying to prove by killing its number one IP? I just don't get it. Oh, yeah, yeah, and it's your own, it's your, it's your own studio. Put off your nose and spike your own face. I just, I don't know, this honestly baffles me guys because at the end of the day, sure I'm not saying like everyone at Bungie was just the greatest talent out there, but there's There's been incredible talent that has left over the years, okay? And in the 50% that's going to be cut, incredible talent. Dude, they're going to get picked up. They're going to get picked up. They might even get picked up by Xbox, I know Xbox, that's been closed in studios, but they might get picked up by Xbox or some other studios. And these individuals are going to compete against you, Soni. They're going to compete against you. They're going to go out there, they're going to make products, and it may be at a, at a, at a start against the studio, you're actively competing against my concern with Sony if, if this is action, and I thought about this but if they really are going to be If they really are seeking, I guess you say revenge or they're being spiteful in some kind of way. They are never going to make another destiny. They are going to crucify destiny openly. I'm back to the anger face. Fun fact, Sony PlayStation more or less exists because of pettiness. God. You sure it's not Bungie you see can revenge? No, that's he just clarified it's Sony. the venue. Look, it just sounds like Sony's pissed off. It sounds like Sony's pissed off that Pete fucked them, but they're not going after Pete's and said they're just gonna, going after the studio and it's like man. Who is this guy and why should we trust what he's saying? Sylvain, a journalist, he's reported on a few things, and Paul Tassie is also, he's not confirming a percentage of the layoffs, but this is the same guy that brought up the expected layoffs, massive layoffs that's coming. You would be pissed too if you lost 3.6 billion dollars. Oh yeah, man. I mean, without a doubt. But there's a difference between being, you know, when it comes to business at the end the day, guys, you at least got to look at the, you have to, you have to actually assess the value of the asset that you own and go, all right, yes, we overpay. It's a shit situation all around. However, what can we possibly do to make good on this investments? But one of the ways is just leaning into the greatest strength of that. And in this case, you can argue, say, Bungie's greatest strength and the greatest revenue source was in fact destiny. Is in fact destiny. It may take longer to get your return on your investment. Instead of 10, 15 years, it might take 25. But at least you get your return. Okay? Well, I will say guys and look, I don't know what proper the valuations you got on like We're talking 2021, 2020, 2021 valuations for especially game companies were astronomical. All right. I'm not going to put, I'm not going to say the name of this company. There was a company out there that had only one game and that one game really wasn't even that good of a game. It was a kind of good game. And its valuation was a little over a billion dollars, which blew my fucking mind, all right? Blown my fucking mind. It wasn't even like it. The game like had mediocre reception. Now let me just say this. That company's valuation peaked in 2021. A lot of companies valuation peaked in 2021. Why? Because, one, you had easy money policy back then. Two, everyone thought we were gonna be locked down forever. Man, you just had to come down to Florida to realize that shit wasn't gonna last. You know what I'm saying? We weren't locked, people weren't locked down. I mean, there were people locked down some, in other places. But man, it wasn't gonna be a lockdown for 10 fucking years or even five years. much less a year. But I believe there was this mindset that we were going to be locked down for X amount of years and everyone's going to be at home needing entertainment, gaming being one of them. So Paul right here put this out absolutely saying they're not even tasking a tiny S team with potential high fixed big balance issues after this. I Got this terrible dude, that's fucking terrible Morning bike it's like buying a puppy expecting to grow into one breed and then it turns out to be another instead of taking Up with the breeder and seller you just shoot the dog Burning eggs for the two thousand bits Nobody lets your dog around burning burning you I was disturbing Did you run I got too many dogs I Had too many fucking dogs. I got too many. I got Huskies I got a husky right now. That's got the shits and she's She's just shitting all, I got, she's outside. She just walked up on the, on the damn drive. She shitted all over the drive, all up and down the drive lane. I mean, every step, your shit just comes out. Huskies are cute. Yeah. Well, how about a one Husky with the shits? How about that? She learned it from you. I feed them dogs good food, very good food. Honestly too good in my opinion. I love dogs, but it was a pug sausage dog to wallow on something else. That's interesting. That's a hell of a combination. Yeah. Paul is right right here. Absolutely insane. They're not even asked. Tasking a tiny as team with potential optics, big balance issues after this. They are atomizing support for this game. So you understand what's happening here, guys. They're not even keeping a couple guys in there to just make sure the bugs inside of Destiny remain in check. They're axing everyone. They literally are saying, get the game as best you can and then fuck off. And I'm gonna be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if so many even cares about that. I wouldn't be surprised if so many even cares if the game isn't that good of a state or not. I think this is more of a push on the bungee side. This is this is all around The reason why this is bothering me a bit here guys, I just don't think there's anything I don't think there's anything we could have done. I mean we've made a lot of noise You know the fact that let me tell you this is this is the thing that that irked me. The fact that Xbox was the only one that really said, I mean, a lot of a lot of companies said, you know, almost like, you know, showed love to guardians and to destiny. But PlayStation hasn't said, have they said anything? Has PlayStation said anything? Has PlayStation? Don't even come out said, thank you to the destiny community. Have Now they have not said Jack shit. I only think I've seen from PlayStation is on the marketing side. They push on the dome section. And I know you're going to say, but it came from the marketing agencies. Trust me, that shit's coming down the line from Sony. talk about D3. It's part of the issue, it feels like there's no remorse of care at all from Sony. Yeah. You know, something like this, you think they would say something, you know what I mean? But now it makes sense. If they really are, like if they really are just like, essentially digging the, digging the knife into bungee right now and the desire here for revenge, if you will, they ain't gonna, you know what I mean, they're not gonna say anything. They're just gonna keep doing what they're doing. If they want revenge, why not close down the studio? I think that's where they're going, guys, and this being straight with you, I think that's where they're going. But they're not going to do it all in one blow because Sony executives still have to answer to people. They still have to actually show, they don't necessarily have to, but you want to have numbers to back up. And if, if Destiny right now is still showing somewhat consistent revenue, and you just go in there and just ask the whole studio, this is just my opinion here, you just go in there and just ask the whole studio and people would be, you know, it'd be like a what the fuck moment, you know, I'm coming from, but if you go ahead and get rid of Destiny, you let Marathon teeter on and you see what I mean is divide and conquer situation and then eventually you can act marathon and then they go from there. I really think this may actually be the end goal here guys is to close bungee. Um, I don't know, dude. I don't, I, that's a great question. Um, yeah, if, if, if Sony does in fact close bungee, and I'm thinking this may happen by next year, like straight up 20, 27, I think this may happen by next year. Then, uh, I think the first thing they're going to do is cut the servers. You know what I mean? Or for destiny and for Marilyn Guys, I'm not trying to like piss you off. I'm just saying I just if Sony's got it out for for bungee right now and also for, you know, again, I like to, I like to believe at the end of the day, Sony likes money just like everybody else. And that at the end of the day, they would make decisions with, with that money interest in mind, but the problem is they're already going against that by closing down destiny as is. So we're already removed from that as we're already seeing here. A thousand percent. I think if this is the case, you really feel this way. Then there are individuals at the top level bungee that you should have gone after. If you feel like you got fucked. This man on the studio though, you know. How about going after whoever within Sony who came up with the observed valuation? Well, those things happened. You had Jim Ryan, who got essentially let go. And then you had Herman Hulse, who got demoted to Coci. Right? Coci. Right, co-CEO, have we ever said that does that happen often in the corporate world guys? I don't how often do you have two CEOs? How often do you have co-CEOs? It's happens with rare. Blizzard had two for a time. Definitely happens. In Europe, it's relatively normal. Oh, okay. Usually when one is transitioning to retirement. They have a regional CEO and a main CEO. Who's got two for a few months and did the lady found out she was underpaid? I don't know all the details about that. Based off of what you're saying in this battle, where do we stand and all this is destiny fans? Guys, Sony can walk into bungee right now, set up a live string, pull the pants down piss on our servers. And there ain't nothing we could do about it. We can rage, we can get upset, and be like, okay, you still gonna come from? But unfortunately, and the fucked up thing is they would make bungee watch. And honestly, they may look at Bungie and say, oh, is this your crown jewel game? Is this destiny? Is this your favorite game? You fuck me? No. I fuck you. I thought it was. They couldn't do that. They couldn't be doing that. And could we do that? I don't know. They could be doing that. And could we do that? I don't know. I don't know. It kind of all right now. I'll let you know, man. I'll let you know how petty Sony is. I don't know We've we've done we've done sponsorships with Sony I Haven't seen another Sony sponsorship, but I'll let you know if we never see another Sony sponsorship again It's a good chance. We won't I I'll let you know they if I can confirm at least a Mayan if they hold personal grudges What was your last Sony sponsorship source? Yeah, Sarah source good game actually a really good game enjoy it What sounds like the only thing we could do is drive them nuts with D3 posts forever? Yeah. That's it, man. That's it. You know, Sony, you're gonna have a very vocal community. Honestly, Sony, you could come out of this. Look, here's the thing, man. You could come out of this looking like the hero. Hear me out. You could swoop in here. You can grab Destiny by the balls. You can say, hey, Destiny community, you want D3? We'll make it. We'll put our heart and souls into it. We'll have a team that we've hand selected that will make a D3. Here with him bunching. We'll draw some of the talent that has been dropped over the years. We'll call back Joe Blackburn and Chris Proctor. Maybe even Luke Smith and Mark Knowsworthy. We'll assemble the Avengers and we will make a D3. You're staying with your destiny community, but I don't see that happening now, yeah, That's it for now. That's it for now. One more tune will happen before destiny three. Actually, though, actually, yep. Interested developers and PlayStation, Inter-Ona, interested developers and players should simply buy Destiny. You understand, Destiny is not for sale. Even if someone was to come out and put up a really good price for Destiny, I really, at this point, reading some of these posts, I don't think Sony would sell it. Why? Because they want to fuck it live on TV for the rest of eternity for all to see. You understand? You see what of coming from, you're going to take away that enjoyment. Please cross the avenue on speaker. They want to spit on that thing. I wanna slap it around. No lube. Say the most profane things. Like, yeah, you ride, that's right, you dirty bitch. That's right. I killed you. I fucking did it. You used to be a great game. Take this shit. Okay, all right, stop my grandma's here. Ten Center Epic's gonna swoop in, watch. What is the relationship like between Sony and Chinese publishers? good. No, I didn't say Japan or China. I mean, I mean, I just meant, I mean, Sony. And and do you, you mentioned some of the Chinese publishers, you know, I go from pick up a history book, whoa, let's not get caught up in the weeds here. All right. All right. I can tell you first hand, at least from my Vietnamese side of the family, Asian people do not like each other. I'm just being real. Okay. I'm just being, I'm an outsider, you know, I come from, I'm just, I just say, I'm in, I'm in the no, but I'm not, you know, I don't know. Keep it a game, because like NetEase is our next hope. I don't know, man. I don't even know. I don't know what the deal is between NetEase. I've sat in with NetEase whenever they were about to release Destiny Rising. They, NetEase were so good about taking in feedback. They would be like, what did you think of this? And we would tell them and they would be like, wow, okay, we'll jump on that. Of course we had to translate it. But the point is, is like, they were really on top of all the feedback. Every time we told them something about the game that we felt like could be better here or there or wherever, NetEase and those developers that oversaw Desi and Rising did such a good job and responded so well, except for one thing. And I said it twice. I said it three times, maybe four times, I said, guys, you just launched this game natively on PC and consoles, it would do really well. And I got silence, it was like no reply. No your audience is like, they heard me, but no reply, which made me go, I think there might be more here happening. Cost money to the license to console and PC. I think there might actually be something internally with their contracts where they cannot release my opinion, I think they may not be allowed to release on console in pc natively You see what I'm saying? I think mobile might be the only thing they can release it on that in emulators, right? Yeah, we watch balls video. But a bunch of no longer is this the contract is void? No, I don't think that's how it goes guys that that's still sustains. You know what I'm saying? Sony currently doesn't own the Destiny IP. Sony owns the Destiny IP. They own the Destiny IP laser. I did, we watched yesterday, yeah. They own, when they bought Bungie, they own every Bungie IP that has ever and will ever exist. They can do whatever they want with it. They can run into the ground, they can pluck it out of your hands and move it under one of their own studios. They can piss on its grave and make you watch. They don't own Halo. That's because Bungie never owned Halo. Jesus Christ. Bungie never owned Halo. We've talked about this so many fucking times. Does anyone know the Sony CEO? I do. Uh, I'm it's missy crookie. Uh, How do you say? Missy missy. Oh, excuse me. Uh, hero hero key to tiki. The talking hero key to talking. Oh, yeah, yeah. And the presidency of Sony Interactive is Nishino. Hidiki Nishino. Hidiki Nishino. Class was up. No, that guy actually, Nishina gave a wonderful, wonderful speech to a college class, I think was a college class, graduation class. And he talked about how he ended up getting into the industry. Said that someone had downloaded, I think the Linux operating system on his computer and he was really upset about that. And anyways, but that kind of pushed him to learn about technology. and he ended up changing majors and essentially that's what led to his career and right there and so it was kind of a it was a good message to the graduating class of like you know the things that could in in life that can and leaves you to your destination. And so, I'm curious how this overlays with what's happening here. Do you know how to make a D3? Yeah, I know, I only read the shit. So I was like, all right, how the fuck am I gonna tell this guy how to make or why to make a D3? You know what I mean? No change of majors at a spite. Okay, I was wrong. The information on them owning the IP is still coming back from Activision. Sony does in fact own the IP. So, yeah, Destiny is going to rot in a pit now, yeah, yeah. Look, when you ask ChadTBT, you want to just go ahead and just like ask them the same question and be like, are you sure? I can tell when you guys are hitting up a look be like hey, are you sir? All right? Double-check the shit Right so what's the plan are we breaking into Sony or what I Don't know I'm gonna think about this. I'm gonna think about this. All right Guys, I've shown my ass as much as I could. I've got to figure out, we've got to figure out what else we can do here. You know what I mean? I'm not going to give up on it, but we need to figure out what the most effective method here. The only thing I can do is I can sacrifice my Sony TV amongst any other Sony product that I may have in the house, you know? I don't know. You all right about it though? What's the point? I know, man. Who does Sony hate the most? From a corporate and competitive standpoint, Sony is typically viewed as hating or at least heavily targeting its main gaming rivals. Microsoft and Nintendo. Within the gaming industry, Sony is widely known for aggressive exclusivity deals and fierce competition against these two giants to maintain PlayStation's market dominance. All right, well, we just, Microsoft, Xbox, I talked a lot about you guys. I think I may have said that, You know Your console is shits and you've got no games and I Forget you even exist but I Like your new CEO she's sharp. It's aggressive and I like steam I Ironically, a major source of contingency exists between Sony and PC games. Many users point to Sony's history of paid third-party exclusives to lay PC ports and ingress PC login requirements as a reason for the brand's unpopularity in the PC space. So look, honestly, I'm already playing on PC majority of the time. GTA is coming out this year, probably going to be playing in on Xbox, just saying. Because they force the places to count. Obviously, I don't need you to look at your tweets right now and you keep that shit to yourself. We're pro Xbox around this place, okay? I know Xbox is closing studios too. I know, I know we'll get into that another day, but right now we're pro X box. Okay. I like color green anyways. Cross your pippin pins. Cross your pro X box play path of XL two on it. Well, I think I think playing PC and you know or Xbox is good. I'd be fine. So We'll see man, we'll see you know the problem is the problem is this I like anime Sony owns that shit Fuck if I crunchy roll man, they fucking bought crunchy roll Crunchy Rose trash. Oh, yeah, you want me to tell you tell me your alternatives? I mean, I mean, let me hear the alternatives. Funimation. Oh, cute. What's your other alternative? Pirating. your alternative? Okay. I am. Sure. Sure. Anti-haven? Hmmmm. I don't think so. High dive? High dive doesn't have everything, man. Someone who has reclined water, I've had enough, oh my god. How many Bill Clinton messages, I did not have sexual relations with that woman did Did we hear online wire, right? You download the paper cut, Linkin Park and it's just fuckin' Bill. I remember I was so confused that I was like 12 years old and I'm like, dude, who is this guy? I was like, who? I don't care, I don't know what sex is. Who the fuck is this? You know, any viruses I got off the line wire? Oh yeah, I fucked my mom's computer up. Yeah, my mom's computer kept running slower and slower and slower. And I had been downloading music and a lot of these other, you know, Bill Clinton audios, you know, and eventually she has someone come and check on her computer and they were like, whoa, this shit's fucked. I Really no Birds of great CDs because the lawnmower though, right? Yeah Yeah, yeah, that was the time man. Well, you made a CD for someone, you know, especially that was You're not special that fucking was you like I made this fucking We don't even know about that anymore, dude. You know, I come from there, we know about that. They don't know the limitations of a single CD. You get best 14 songs. Now you got everything. You got fucking everything. Right there. Right there. as you want, when you want it. Oh, my team's still waiting. Oh, no, they're not. They're not they've been to me. These kids make Spotify playlist now. I remember when MP3 players were, kids were bringing them to school, my hell, yeah. Cross your witness to the moon landing easy be careful bringing up moon landing to this chat. Oh, am I get crazy? What moon landed? What? It's fake. Oh, my God. Dude, I'll tell you what I hear this shit I take it so much, you know what I mean? I just don't give a shit Maybe what maybe what? You know I'll tell you what no conspiracy loses me faster than Flat Earth or something every time I'm like, dude, you know how many people got to be in on this shit You know what I'm saying, you know how people got to be in on that shit Wait, the earth isn't flat? And then the one reply I get from flat earth is this, have you gone to space and seen it for yourself? We'll have you. Tell me how our compass works. How's that work for Flat Earth? Won't you give me that shit? Magic. Magic. I hope this is flagged too. Alright, I gotta get the fuck off here. Guys, I wish I had something better to share with you guys today. Unfortunately, unfortunately it seems like Sony's pissed off and it seems like they're using Bungie and by extension Destiny as their example. And I don't think this is going to work well for Sony. really Sony you could come out looking good from this. You really could. You could lean into this community. You know, people might even look at you and be like, wow, Sony is that gracious savior. What I will tell you this, I can tell you first hand, many people in the industry never want to speak ill on Sony, especially developers because that shit will follow them forever. They will give fucking blacklist and that shit will will stick with them. And so I wouldn't necessarily expect the developers to come out and talk about this. This is by extension, there's just so much that so much reach that that Sony does have. Exhaust now we've yet we've yet long enough, we are going to start in the morning on Warframe. I know I missed the story today. I had to get off guys. I've got some stuff I got to take care of. I know this wasn't necessarily the longest stream of the day, but we're going to be on for a very, very long time tomorrow. And I promise you we'll get Warframe as well. So we got carried away with the stories that have been broken today as far as the layoffs go. I hope you guys have been enjoying Warframe to my Warframe players. Love you guys. We'll be over there. And again, we'll also be at TennoCon this year. We've got some surprises at TennoCon. So no, nothing like that. No, Resonax with the five get the subs, I don't think Warframe knows what they've done for us. I don't think the Warframe community, like maybe they do, but you have my loyalty forever. Like straight up, the fact the Warframe community jumped into Destiny 2 at this past week, man. You fucking got me. Like I'm a lock forever with Warframe. And to be quite honest with you, when everything with the dust settles and Destiny unfortunately dies, Warframe may be one of our only options, you know what I'm saying? I thought Warframe's a bad game. It's just that I'm just mean like I think Warframe is a great game. It's just you know Unfortunately in Destiny will eventually have its last moments and we got Warframe. We got division You know what I mean for the from the Looters side of things Warframe really is different. I know a lot of comparisons have been drawn between Warframe and Destiny But Warframe really is different Just my design it's just so different Playing more frames up there right now nice when you play Guild Wars 3 Maybe, you know, I I would probably play. I don't know when it's coming out I Like him RPGs. I know Guild Wars structures a lot different. They don't have the same typical DPS tank support, right? And so So I might fuck with it 2028. So I would probably play Guild Wars 2 first, see how that goes. And then I'll jump on Guild Wars 3. So for him to, yeah, yeah. But guys, thank you all so much for hanging out with us. We'll see you tomorrow. What's said tomorrow. And we'll cover tomorrow's 12 as well. Play some Warframe, okay? But you guys, you'll have a great rest of the evening. See you in the next one. Bye, everybody. you you you you