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We're here for the 15th edition of this world championship, and we have the eight best teams
in the world for the main event, and in just a couple of days we will know which team will
lift the ages.
My name is Jereen van der Heijten, otherwise known as She-Rabbi, your host this morning,
and of course I am not alone to talk you through what's going to happen today and
tomorrow and the rest of the main event.
I am joined by Rhea by winter and for this morning is special we got a saver line joining
as well we wish well wishes to a TGF who is under the weather a little bit but happy to
have you here saver how are you doing?
Oh lots it's Jeroen Bal saver line excited to be here yeah we wish T speed recovery
he drank way too much tea on his way to China it was not good but you got your boy
here excited to be here it's gonna be epic
I thought you said you were going to be British.
What the hell was that?
I asked if it was too pirate, and you said no.
And you went all pirate for the British.
That's just how British people talk.
I don't know what you're talking about.
That's good.
I like it.
How are you doing this morning, Rhea?
I'm so excited.
I didn't think it would hit as hard.
Like, it hit hard when we were doing rehearsal,
and then now there's actually people here,
and the lights are on.
It's beautiful.
Oh my god.
I love TI.
And I enjoy the group stage so much.
Like, the vibes are like, lay up here.
winter. I'm sure you've enjoyed the group stage as well. How are you doing this morning? How are you feeling?
It's always good to be watching good Dora with friends. We have someone new here, so hopefully we
get to watch a lot more interesting Dora today. Yeah, we are expecting to have a lot of interesting
Dora coming away. We already have had a lot of interesting Dora as we get to this point as well.
We'll talk all about that. Of course, you'll hear plenty from the four of us,
but there are other members of our broadcast team, and one of them is Sir Action Slacks,
and he was out and about this morning.
Hello, yes, we are here at the front of line.
It is me, Slacks and...
Helen.
Helen, that's right.
We have come to see the psychos who showed up at the front of the line.
My friends, hello, how are you doing?
What time did you get here?
Fine, fine, I don't sleep.
I stay here at first place.
First place in the line, very impressive.
why have you come so early because i can because i can that's free will baby this man is a grown
ass man he can do whatever he wants how about we had somebody that was over here hello uh what's your
name uh what are you telling me you can call me yang shun shui yang shun shui oh fantastic what
time did you arrive oh i'm 6 10 around 6 10 6 10 for this who do you want to watch play so bad
You're here at 6'10".
You're looking forward to the team game so you're here so early?
I'm looking forward to the P-Way.
For now, T-Vision!
T-Vision! That's right! T-Vision, Helen!
Alright, let's wake this crowd up. This here, little board.
Hey, everybody! We are awake out here! Hello!
Good morning, crowd! Alright, we are... Look at this line!
It stretches as far as the eye can see.
Anything that's impressive?
That's kind of a lot of people check this out. There's line number two, baby
That's going the exact same way. Who wants to talk anybody bored? Hello. Hello. Oh, sir
We have a man
decked out an extreme gaming we got the hat we got coming bring it in brother. Oh
Come here. I'm so
Condolences all right, so there's a common thing a lot of people came to see extreme
They didn't make it unfortunately who you're rooting for now
I can actually that's it. That's it. There's no way now
That's how it is. This is the dude who's here to be
Spirit spirit, baby. All right. We got any other spirit fans out there? Yeah
Three fantastic that guy's in a shirt. Well, it's all right. Well, I hope you find saw this with team spirit
Thank you for coming out early in the morning. Oh, that's terrible. Give her a
All right, let's keep moving down. Hello. Hello. Oh
Hi, hi, everybody, good to see you.
Hello, hello, hello.
Holy, can we go to the back and do the big boys in the back?
Holy moly golly, look how big this line is.
People told me it was China.
Some of the teams were eliminated.
Nobody would be showing up.
This might be the biggest line I've ever seen
at the international.
Hello, who do you guys think is gonna win?
Hello.
Hello.
Who are you rooting for?
Team?
Team Spirit.
Spirit? See there's a lot of spirit fans out here. Very good. Very good. Look at this line, boys.
Look how far back it goes. It stretches into the horizon. Helen, I need you to pick somebody. Here we go.
Who are you picking, Helen?
This lovely lady. Hello, we're gonna talk to you now.
Yeah, hello. Who do you want to win the event?
Who do you hope to win this time?
Who do you choose?
Yeah, absolutely. All right. Am I gonna hear you guys loudest when Team Liquid's playing? Absolutely. Let's go Liquid.
All right, and I love the hat as a fellow, you know, NA.
One yee-haw, please. Yee-haw. Yee-haw!
Fantastic. Thank you guys. Oh, X! Oh, fantastic. XG!
Anyone? My God!
There's a third line!
Mr. President, a third line has appeared.
This is not good. There are three lines now.
It never ends, Helen. It's a hydro of lines.
Hello. You're back here.
You're about eight hours away from the front of the line.
What shows this side of the line?
We have 8 hours ahead of our team, but what are you going to do now?
We are going to make a video about TI 6 wins.
Are you ready for TI? Let's hear it!
Trunbella!
We are awake this morning. We hope you guys are too.
Thank you so much for joining us here at the line.
Thank you, Helen. Any words out there, Helen?
Let's go TI.
Let's go TI! See you guys tonight.
A lot of energy at the start of the day.
Getting ready for this iteration of the International.
the main event is upon us and we have had a great road to get to this point and we do want to touch
upon that because yes you did see extreme gaming fans out there and yes they are you know without
their main idols so we gotta touch upon that a little bit in case you missed it there was a four
day modified swiss bracket winter we've had a immense road to get here a lot of doughnut
What's your main takeaway from this group stage?
Well, I think the group stage was very brutal.
I don't think a lot of people got their predictions, right?
I definitely didn't get mine, right?
But Dota has come to a level where I felt like anybody can just win.
If you're on a bad day, you can definitely lose to anybody.
The meta is amazing for me.
A lot of heroes are playable at the moment.
People might think it's boring, but every year people are going to complain.
Why is this hero OP? Why is Old Spirit so OP?
That should be the talk of the town right now in Tota.
Oh, I'm sure that we're going to hear the words Earth Spirits quite a bit.
I mean, yeah, it was a Hicked fan so much.
The hero was so dominating.
I think everyone kind of scratched their head when they see him roll in, magnetize,
and just obliterate an entire team of heroes so quickly,
especially when you get that Conjurer's Catalyst on top.
I mean, this hero is so dumb! His tiles are so powerful!
And then there's a lot of players that seem to savor Excel at the hero,
and I think maybe that is where we should focus, where, for example, Mal'Reen,
he has to have this hero banned out against him every single time?
Yeah, it's absolutely unstoppable. You do not want to play against this hero.
I was talking to the best midlaner, panelist in the world, Quinn, backstage,
and he explained to me, and maybe he'll talk about it some more when he's here,
But this hero, he basically has two nukes, he has a billion HP, scales incredibly well,
has basically like infinite damage in the late game teamfights, so there isn't a proper way to
really stop him. You just can't really destroy him in lane because he's just going to nuke the
wave with his two nukes. He's going to scale, he's going to get his heart, his Cruella's
Crozier, the most OP item. It's just, I don't know, I think there are a few heroes that are
are just worth banning out in the first phase.
For sure, Earth Spirit is one of them.
Yeah, maybe that's where the teams will go.
This is definitely a hero to keep your eyes on.
But of course, we want you to also know which teams
usually keep an eye on.
Let's take a look at the eight teams that
did make it out of that brutal group stage,
as we do have eight teams seated into this double
elimination bracket.
We are going to have all eight teams
start in the upper bracket.
And in terms of our matchups up today, Rhea, every single one of them is a blockbuster.
I know. I was hoping you were going to ask me my favorite because I can't guess.
I realized when I was looking forward to the schedule, I was like,
oh, what seriously put me on? I hope they put me on the good one. I was like, oh, they're all good.
I really, really, really have loved watching Team Vision throughout the group stage especially,
just because of how dominating they were. But now we've had a few days break and it's like,
are they going to continue the dominance? That's my number one question of the day.
I think that that couple of days break we have to address that a little bit winter because generally it does change a lot of things there has also been a lot of scrims that the teams in between then and now yeah we're going to see like I feel like some things they don't play I owe they don't play us through that well this are the times where you can actually practice it more and play well because I think before this.
boom boys they were the one that I would say that they were the best on IO carry
the rest of the team they can play but isn't as polished because you don't get
to practice this that much it's a very new thing and I think with the three days
break it's gonna change a lot I think most of the carry players would have
already picked up what to do you know if you go through their replays and I
would say is the opposite as well like I can say from experience that
these breaks in the middle of a tournament it can like give you
time to catch up but it can also trip you up if you had a really good
momentum throughout the group stage such as Vision did then you have a few days
off where maybe you know someone can't so the scream on you you went out partying
to enjoy Shanghai you know it's it's very easy to lose the momentum and
suddenly you're like oh wow we're coming into this playoffs you lose the first
game and you're suddenly thinking oh maybe we're not like that goaded as
we thought we are yeah but the support staff will come into play even you
have this our bricks the staff the coaches the analysts they have a lot
work to do. Even if you're winning it's probably more difficult when you're winning because
all right everything seems like it's going well what do we change you know and what do we expect
our opponents to do. I think vision is the the open out there this is the team that reigned supreme
in the group stages they came through as the best team undefeated there in terms of series
looking at the bottom of the seeds it's okay the group stages maybe for some teams didn't go
and I think that's a good
thing. I think that's a good
thing to do as well as for
other teams and, uh, one in
particular, I think has our
attention for that because
throughout the year, Rea
young next house looks very
good. They have and I put
them as my four team. My
prediction. You probably weren't
the only one. Yeah, I think
a lot of people put them as
four one, and that also
ended up being an upset. I
I was so shocked to see kind of the two types of team this team could be in their play there was the series against team
Brazilians and game one they looked so lost like none of the supports were making plays on the map
It felt like Jere Jr. Can activate himself at all and he's playing us spirit and usually having bad games on it throughout
The groups on the most broken hero of mid
But then he you know game two and three suddenly they change up the drop us spirit goes ignored in some of the other
series isn't it's like
You're just seeing this puck in the snapback come out and instead in the sports of making more active moves
That's only the team looks tier one again. These look exactly like the kind of guys that could go for oh
So I think they are their consistency is just all over the place right now
Yeah, and that's surprising because Saber Janix has been
But they were the team to win it all you know a lot of people were looking at them to do it all
And then they're faltered. What do you think happens? Well, I think this team Janix
they do have a tendency of doing that. They've had some extremely impressive tournaments and they just
go into a tournament and they feel unstoppable, but I think throughout the year we could see that
they either have that or they kind of play like whatever, you know. So I think it's just one of
the cases of that. They kind of came into this tournament after playing essence 2 when they
looked incredible and now, you know, maybe they didn't catch a good tournament, but who knows,
You know you play the playoffs you just win a few games and suddenly you're in the top four and then it becomes very easy
And you know in a week we're gonna be saying oh, yeah plastic yandex
They did have a weaker group stage, but here they are they are the goats
I kind of feel like that depends on the hero pool because like some of the Thomas that they didn't do well
I felt like they didn't really have the right heroes and I think their playstyle right now
It's kind of greedy like all their three cost tend to like farm a lot
Like I think that the former for the teams that are doing really well is you have like a spirit mid and you have to greedy cause on that
side and if you talk about Yandex they kind of sometimes in the dress that they didn't look so good
Their mid is also a very greedy hero
So they have three greedy cause and the supports have to do all the work and sometimes they kind of have trouble doing that
You know as a support and they have trouble as a team
Yeah, and this is a team that I think in the couple of days
They did have a lot to work and so if we're talking about maybe vision, you know, maybe they everything look great
What are they going to change because everything went perfect?
Jannex did have a lot to work on and we know that they have what it takes to reach the top
So I'm very interested to see them play today and see how far
They've come since that group stage and if they can just hold their own and we'll come back to their old form
There's a couple of other teams we should talk to you about though because for example a team that a lot of people did not have
in their top eight made it to top eight actually made it quite
successfully so they went four and one in the group stages winter
Nick my galaxy on the main stage once again yeah people definitely did not
like see them you know in the top eight I felt like they also had like a lot of
problems throughout the season they had a lot of like different roster changes
since last year they they had goals playing in the beginning of the season
then they saw it up because they felt like their team had problems finding a
win condition on their tree cause so they saw it up they got TA 2000 he
play until December and then it didn't work out for them and then they brought in Rincey
in the beginning of 2026 and after that they brought in Davai and Davai was the new offlaner
Nuke went to Main and they still couldn't really find the success that they hoped for.
They did work well in one of the Dream League Division 2, I was casting a lot of their
games but it still didn't really work out for them when it came down to the big
leagues against the big boys in the Main events and I think at the end of the
season they just felt like okay we're just going to do some all-in, we bring in
in the mid lane.
And then, in the mid lane, we're bringing Sumail again, but we moved Sumail to carry.
And then, somehow found the right balance, and they were able to create the win collision.
I think the key thing about Nigma Galaxy's success recently is because they were able
to play mid lane from the carry, and they are playing the carry from the mid lane on
the off lane.
And they sort of found that balance with Sumail, because Sumail on the mid lane,
he just didn't really feel like he's the mid lane, and he felt like he wants to
dominate the lane, and he can't really dominate the lane from the mid lane nowadays.
So the state-blank heroes were the heroes that were winning the lane.
So he did really well when he was playing all those tiny lane dominators and they found their formula.
Yeah, it's incredible to see Lornoff also having the success that he has because I think a lot of people
might not know where he came from or might have seen him throughout the season on many different teams.
Because they were like, this is like the mercenary.
Yeah, well to be fair, we started on a team together at the start of the year and we played a bunch of qualifiers.
I did feel he is incredibly talented. It was like a pleasure playing with him and also a very nice guy
Which is you know always what you want and I feel like eventually he would stand in here and there and then when he got into nigma
You could really feel like it clicked. I think he's incredible. He's been playing so well this entire ti
And i'm hoping he gets to keep it up for playoffs
I hope so too
I want to say my I have two favorite games from the group stage and both of them included a natures profit
Lornos was one of them that series versus LGD. I think everyone was tuned into they saw both sidelines feeding it up having the last time
Their lives but Lord off Lauren off. He gets solo killed mid against Thompson
Snowballs that helps his teammates and then honestly, I'm a real some people might call it won't be nine
But genuinely I think like there was some really good ganks onto Lauren off that nigma responded to so well
Like it felt like the communication was just like that like they were just reacting instantly protecting him helping him
enabling him pushing this house together and the comeback was beautiful.
It was such a good nature's performance.
That's awesome because Nick Mcgalaxy traditionally, they have trouble maybe reaching tournaments,
but when they're there, they push it to the limit.
They have what it takes last year.
They came top six.
Also, a lot of people weren't expecting that to happen and high hopes again
for this year around as well.
And then there's one more team that we can say the same thing
of Boomboyz last year came top four and this year they are back in the top eight and Saber
this is another team that we should keep our eyes on because they are seemingly flying under
the radar. Yeah they are the the CIS powerhouse they've always have been ever since they were
made I think the best of the best the CIS players always play for them I think SAFE is one
of the best force in the business and then this year with the addition of Curlyteach
Yeah, they're just looking very solid. I think as opposed to Yandex who usually have like a really good placing, or a kind of meh placing, I would say, bad moom, sorry, boom boys, they always perform.
They are always there, they always play good, and I'm surprised to see that this TI, they have been picking some very spicy heroes.
They are the only team in this entire TI who have picked Legion Commander, and they won.
And it was very cool to see.
As we can see, they also have some incredible results at TI's, and it kind of scales up.
They started at the bottom, and they've been climbing ever since.
Fourth place last year, I feel like this year they could get even better.
I think they can easily reach a top 3, perhaps even win it all.
So I'm very excited.
They've been picking a lot of Undying, which I personally love.
Katomi is an absolute beast on this hero.
Yeah, I feel like they have what it takes.
They have the classic stable strats to build on top of.
And then they have some unique heroes, like this Legion Commander, Miro has also played
some Lycan, which was also very exciting.
They did lose that series.
It was two Lycan picks against Falcons.
I think Falcons is a very hard opponent and it's about you know trying it and seeing how it works
and they have time to prepare now in the three days so I feel like they cooked up some good stuff
as Winter mentioned they have an incredible IO so you know maybe that's the hero of the tournament
we all know how good IO gets at TI's back in the day when Ana was cooking on it I feel like
it might just come back and we might see more some more IO potentially we will
And you mentioned Falcons there and I want to focus on Falcons because they are the defending champions here of the international
they won it last year and
They have a chance to do it again and rea
This is also a chance that they do it again with the exact same roster which only happened once so far
Oh, yeah, I mean where I think everyone's looking at Falcons and I and I want them to win
I think we talked about how
you know, it's good to have these super greedy carries, but that's kind of a
question mark for me with Falcons because Skidda, I think, has been a little bit
more sacrificial in the past, right? We've seen how Ma be more of that carry, but
to me, it looks like Offlane has been a harder and harder role as carries get
more and more scary. You know, every single game we're seeing like a
shadow fiend with an undying or a tusk or something, like a load of kill
threat. I mean, despite that, Ma still thrives, but there are games
where his necrophos has been actually a little bit more detrimental.
What's the form of Falcons right now? If you were to describe it for people that have not watched the group stages or the year, how do you estimate their odds?
I think it's very difficult to see how well they can play at the moment because they're trying to find solutions for their team.
Like Alex mentioned, they have trouble finding the right balance because they don't really have a hard carry.
They're trying to find what type of playstyle would allow them to actually succeed.
Earth Spirit was one of them and I don't think they're going to be able to get Earth Spirit and
because you see them bring out the Husker and it didn't work you know and they are one of the best
Husker teams in the world. If it doesn't work for them, it probably means the hero is just terrible
and they have to find other solutions because they are definitely not going to get Earth Spirit.
I think Maureen is the key. It's not Amar, it's not Skeeter. Maureen has to have the
right hero on the mid lane to be able to pull the whole team together.
Yeah, I sort of like his San King especially. I love watching it. It's so good
because it is what you don't have to worry too much about the match up because you just go drag creep waves into camps and then you
bomb everything and then he just goes around and kills everyone. It's like when you see Maureen get bomb priority on the map.
Those are the games I enjoy watching the most because he is incredible.
And if we are talking about Falcons, we do have to mention there is only one player with the most international performances
he's playing his 10th international this time around in a row, might I add another extra special
feat that I'm talking about. Crit, he has, of course, won last year, but he is still at a 10
internationals in a row with a very steady, solid performance, Avery.
Yeah, I don't know how he does it. I feel like Crit is one of the most stable players, not even like
like post-force but players in general in in the scene he just manages to perform
every single time he delivers like he has incredible results again and again it
doesn't matter what team he's on he just comes and he delivers he plays
incredible I think he's also just like a really nice guy to have on the team
he's very calm very smart about the game I was lucky enough to play with
him two or three years ago. And I can say from experience, he is just very nice to very nice lane
partner, very solid. I think if you're if you're not a nice player to say like that, I don't think
you get this type of track record because people have to want to play with you, obviously skill
aside, you do have to be pleasant to be around as well because some of these bootcamps are
long grueling and communication is key in a lot of teams in actually every single team that does
lead me to another player that we should be keeping an eye out because yes Fred has a record here with
the 10 TI's in a row, but we also have to talk about another player that can set a cool record
because 33 has already got two rings to his name and he has the chance to add a third,
But the specialty with this one is Winter, that it could be the third with a different team once again,
because the first two are also with different teams.
Yeah, he has to change his name if he wins it first with a different team 3-3-3.
I think that's a special part of Netta right now.
I think he has been absolutely one of the best offlaners since five years ago, six years ago.
I think he has brought the offlane so many different types of multi-play styles.
I think he's also the type of offlaner that he's the captain from the offlane.
I don't think you can say this for a lot of offlane players.
A lot of the offlane players, they're not the captains.
I think maybe you can shed more light on this.
Basically, yourself as an offlaner, what do you feel like if you have to also play a hero
and you also have to captain the team?
How much does that stress you out in a team environment?
It is not easy. It is for sure not easy.
I feel like there is so much to do as an offlaner that usually the supports
and end up being the captains because they were usually draft and they often like set up the moves
in the early game whereas the offender he's just about who's farming creeps. Verdi free especially
he loves farming his back camps so maybe that is what enables him to also be the captain because
he just he's like too creative he's not really laning there is no pressure so he just pulls the
wave brings it back to him similar to what Maureen does and you know that maybe gives him
him like the mental space to be able to also call in in the game but I think he
is honestly just really smart and very talented at the game and that kind of
gives him the the build to to be able to like do everything.
Would you say that's also like a downside you know if your off laner is farming and
usually I would like to say that you start the game from the off lane you
attack that's the point you attack first and you open the tower first and
if your off laner is farming a bad camp isn't that kind of considered like a
bad thing in some situations?
Well, I thought it was that way, until 33 started winning everything, so I think whatever works is the good thing.
Then Ironwing, they play in a way where Pure really loves winning his lane,
Ari really loves dipping to the safe lane and helping them, so it works for them, that they play through the safe lane.
33, he farms back, he's very safe, and you can out-farm the enemy off-laner while you're just chilling,
and your safe lane is doing way better than their safe lane.
And so far, 33, of course, has had a lot of success.
We'll see if he can get his destiny filled at this year's international.
Now, there's three other players we'd like to highlight that also they've come so close.
They've come so close multiple times in some cases
as we take a look at Ace, Tofu and No1.
Three players, two, of course, on the same team.
Ace and Tofu has been second twice.
No one has had such a long career being so successful
in previous teams with back in the day Virtus.pro now back on a team where he's doing well again
and somehow, Raja, somehow he's able to stay on top in the mid lane after all those years.
Honestly, I can't believe it. But I also think, you know, you're playing with such a
talented group of people and also you're playing with youngins. Okay, so like to talk about
another team randomly off the cuff here, like Miposhka mentioned that one of the reasons
he went to coaching is because he felt like it's so hard when you have such young players
with you that it feels like they're breathing down your neck.
You're playing maybe 10 pubs a day, they're playing 15.
So it's like hard to keep up, but you know no one is now here, he's on team vision, he's
got satanic for example, young blood and it's like this is good, it's like good motivation
to keep you pushing, it's like his own talent on top of that and it's like this massive
beautiful mix bringing in that extra legendary coach for this year too.
I mean this is totally a recipe for success.
Yeah, I know you three people, they have what it takes also and definitely in case
of no one. They've got the recipe with the old blood, the young blood. For ace and tofu,
maybe three times of the charm and they make it into that grand finals. I feel like we've done,
we've done a decent job at setting the stage here. Obviously the stage is already quite gorgeous,
but I would like to have some final thoughts, Reia, before we get this thing kicked off.
Thoughts on what, Shiva? How exciting and amazing it is to be here. How amazing and fun and
It's going to be how we're going to have an opening ceremony is going to blow your minds.
It's TI.
It's the best time of the year.
It is.
I mean, how can you top that, Winter?
Well, we're winning TI.
It would definitely be, if you're playing the tolerance, let's see if you can go back
with the A-Giz.
That would be great, you know, especially for 33, 3, 3, 3, 3, I hope it happens.
How about you, Cyber?
You want me to hype them up as well?
Oh yeah.
All right, guys.
Grab your popcorn.
TI is beginning.
beginning, it's gonna be awesome!
It isn't going to be awesome, of course we had an incredible group stage with amazing
Dota 2 and the games coming your way, the spectacle coming your way as the horn sounds, I could
not be happier to get this started.
So ladies and gentlemen, let's get it started in style.
The Great Loom is always weaving, stitching each moment into the tapestry of time, forever
binding the sum of what was, what is, and what might yet be into the hidden folds of
reality. The moon remembers what the living forget. It carries the great
chronicle forward. It trims away the frayed ends of dreams that never found true
shape. But some legends will not simply be carried. They draw their own golden
to Fred through life's labyrinth, guiding the strands of destiny to give their dreams
a shape. Until the great loom is forced to weave around them, locking their triumphs
Into the tapestry for all the time to see.
The Aegis of Champions, it is the master pattern, the template of triumph.
A sigil stitched from the threads of countless battles waged around the world.
It is the shape that we strive for.
The composition every hand aspires to create.
The point where all paths do merge as we bend our own vines of fate ever closer to the perfect design.
It is proof of endless possibility, a record of realized dreams, a pinnacle of mastery whose
pursuit transcends the boundaries of time.
Now, together, to witness those worthy of believing, those old enough to seize the
Golden bread to intertwine the strands of every victory, failure, and hard-learned lesson into one immortal design.
Always knowing that every challenge, every choice, every risk holds the pattern tighter.
A storm-privileged dragon!
And every mistake they make threatens to tear it all apart!
Team Valkyries!
The ages of champions always in Shanghai, China!
A living tapestry that chronicles the legends of our past!
A team's complete for ultimate glory!
Only one can seize immortality!
Who will emerge victorious?
The battle begins!
And now, introducing the finest Dota teams in the world!
Team Young Dex!
Iron Wing!
Team Spirit!
Boom Boys!
Boom Boys!
Team Falcon!
Ligma Galaxy!
Team Liquid!
Team Figure!
15 years ago, I had the pleasure of welcoming players and fans to the very first international.
A lot has changed since then.
Dota itself has changed.
It's always evolving and the best players and teams evolve with it.
The ages of champions itself has changed.
58 players have etched their name on that epic trophy.
Those players left their mark on the ages
and on the game we all love.
But there's one thing that never changes.
Whether you're at the arena in Shanghai
or watching from home, the skill, the passion,
the talent of these players is always worth celebrating.
And that's what we're here to do.
So thank you to the fans for joining us.
Thank you to the City of Shanghai
for hosting us once again.
And thank you to the players
for giving us something to celebrate.
Today, the finest Dota players in the world
will strive to claim the Aegis of Champions.
To all of those in the arena,
all of those who are joining us from around the world, I'm honored to say welcome to the
International.
Absolute goose bumps every single time we have started our main event in the International
and we are getting ready to get the spectacles started with the Dota teams
juicing it out on that very gorgeous stage and for us it is the honor of
talking about our first upcoming series we have none other than Iron Wing versus
Spirit to take the lead in our four series that are coming your way today
and I want to just start by just setting the scene a little bit before
Before we dive into these two teams, what's this series going to be like for the people
at home?
Are we going to look at explosive?
Is it calculated?
Is it a mix of both?
I think it's going to be a very slow-paced game.
Both teams are very greedy.
They look to go into the late game, especially the experience, and I feel like a lot of
the pacing of the game is going to come down to the early game, like the laning
phase here.
I felt like if you do well in the lane in this specific matchup, it's going to
give you a lot of leeway to farm and I think playing the map being able to have a bigger
map to farm and just get more resources is going to be a very very key thing. The resource
management is going to be very very important for both teams.
Yeah, we know that during the group stages where your spirit does like it when the game
goes a little longer than average.
A little longer but I also feel like sometimes they trip up on their drops, you know, like
picking Drow Ranger into our spirits and struggling there, it's like, I think the drop will be
just as important as the in-game play because what's the point of having these late-game
heroes if you can't win the match-up in the late-game?
Yeah, actually, you know what?
Yeah, no one, Saver!
Both of these teams, their average match duration is just seconds apart.
Yeah, they both really like to play it long, but to be honest, so does every
other team here at the international. Every single game is so close and such a nail biter.
I personally am looking forward to seeing how they match up strategically as both of these teams
seem extremely smart like strategic wise, team spirit with the way they can come back from any
kind of situation whereas iron wing with with their incredible and insane strats especially
coming from 33. I'm looking forward to if they like figured something out during this
break in between the group stage and the main stage. I don't know, it's gonna be incredible.
Do we have a favourite coming into this? Because in Tour, I will I'll be honest, my predictions
have I think Ironwing making it out on top here.
I think based on playstyle, I would say Spirit is better with the current heroes, where
they actually have a very hard carry and wears for Ironwing. Whenever they try
to play like a really hard carry, they don't really play very well as a team because
I think in the early stages their calls are very greedy so one of their calls need to stand up and fight and usually it's pure
And if pure is playing a very greedy hero, I kind of feel like they have problems finding moves in the early stages very force period
I I thought it's not the same for them
They're very comfortable second law law doesn't really get a lot
But sometimes he still figure out a situation where he can actually survive and move and make space for the other
Corporal so I felt like the patch so the suits teams great a lot more
So they should be the favorites in this matchup.
Yeah, focusing our attention on the Iron Wing.
This is a team, Sabre, that has done so well this entire year.
We've had a long list of tier one tournaments.
And to be honest, this is the year where it's been super spread out in terms of results.
But there was one team that definitely does a little better than everybody else.
And that is Iron Wing.
Yeah, it's incredible.
I remember them winning all of the Blastlamps, like ever since they began, and they kept at it even this year.
They got two first places from Blastlamp 4 and 5, and they just... I don't know how they do it.
They seem to just win tournaments that... I mean, maybe they do have business of winning, but they just seem to do it even against the other really good teams.
They also managed to win Birmingham, so even though they have some a little bit worse results such as Valakia,
It doesn't really matter as long as you win the big one and I would say iron wing has certainly won the big ones
I think they have like amongst the the most wins out of all the professional teams idea, which is incredible
Especially if we look how how many good teams there are right now
Yeah, there's there's not a lot of teams that have multiple wins
Actually, there's only four teams that have one multiple
But Iron Wing has won four tier one tournaments with the close second being Yandex.
And then of course later on there was Vision and Liquid still in there as well.
But they have done really well and there's one play in particular,
Winter, you would like to highlight when talking about this team and his White Mon.
Yeah, of course it's my S.A.P.
I want to highlight him because I already mentioned that Iron Wing is a very greedy team.
So they need that support to stand on White Mon.
You know, he's one of the best position five players.
Some may say his play is not exactly very scripted, he's a kind of like a randomish player, he does a lot of things that no one else would do, he walks around and he finds a kill and nobody understands why he does that.
I think his hero pool and his strength is in the laning phase. I mentioned about how important it is for Pure to get a good start. So, Whitemon.
Yeah, Whitemon is fantastic and so is his team, so let's get them on the stage!
They have had such a fantastic group stage where they have faced five opponents and
All five of them made it to the main event
so they definitely had brutal training.
Let's see their bonus out spirit.
The Queen of Spirits are hereby in the disputed sea.
The Kronch fighting for 90k, I can call it that.
The Kronch loves the Yataro and the boys,
and this team has done so well in the group stage
until the final few days.
They were near undefeated, and then two hard series,
where they were all not put of making it to the main event,
but they still got there in the end.
Let's see if that little stumble they had
was enough to help them learn from it
and grow from it and take this international
all the way. You can see the smiles on the players. Who'd have thought it's Yatoro that
has been adopted, Reia?
It's classic. I mean, Team Spirit. I was so surprised to see how many people in that
line with slacks were just like, yeah, Team Spirit. I think Team Spirit are like just
a classic team at this point. You have these absolutely iconic players with their TI
wins. That is so good. This is also a team that actually updates their YouTube
channel, by the way. They release videos all the time. Shout out because they are
so fun to watch and they even do English dogs right there actually making content of the community and
giving you a mind into the players who they are what they're about it makes you feel connected to
them so it's no just it does no wonder that everyone loves them they are loved and they are
not fair consistent in their roster I do want to talk a little bit about Two Spirit there because
they've had some moves here and there to be finally into their final form as they are right now
Say your team spirit has had a little turbulence here. Yeah, you gotta change a few things around
until it finally clicks. They also had a bunch of stand-ins and we talked about it during the
group stage that I think team spirit is one of those teams that take breaks very seriously.
If one of the players needs to take a break such as collapse, they just allow him to,
they get a few standings and even though they don't have as good of a results as with Collaps,
it's very nice for him to be able to step back and now come back and be ready for TI and as we
could see they are ready for sure. They are for sure ready and I think the newest name when
we're talking about Team Spirit, it's not me and that is the name of the player. It is not
me this is of the 10 players on stage the only player here that is having his first ti performance
and he is smashing it right now. Oh my god if you didn't know about this guy before this event
I'm sure you knew him after that insane ages steal in the group stage with his ruby slives
fist it was unbelievable this guy is so talented mechanically it just blows my mind but this
This guy is more than just his plays, right?
And thank you to Team Spirit, they made a little interview with him, and he got to talk
about himself.
Because where did this guy come from?
I think usually a lot of pro players have family members like, oh, my brother played
Dota, he taught me.
You know his mother plays World of Warcraft, fun fact.
Hey, that's cool.
But yeah, he's so cool.
He was about top 90 on the ranking boards in mid-2023, which was when he joined
his first team.
This guy went around to everyone.
guys, can I join your team? Like would you give me a little challenge, give me a little
try? And when a team finally brought him on for the first time, I think he's like, he played
really badly, he said. He's like, I went like four kills 20 deaths on a techie, it was really
bad. But eventually he made his way up to like, you know, Yellow Submarine. And obviously
we know that Yellow Submarine originally was where Team Spirit came from. He took
these players from there, turned them into Spirit. And now here he is too, on the
same team. This guy has performed incredibly well. So far, I think as a character, as a
player, as a person, the community has taken really heavily to him. I would like to share
this fun fact. If you've seen Team Spirit playing, you might have seen them throw down
a little sticker with this guy's face on it and some Russian text underneath. Let
me bring you into the meme now so you guys can connect with the Russian community.
The text is his name. So this guy's real actual human name is Alexei, but a nickname
for that is Lioha. And that is what the text says. It says Lioha. There's literally a picture
of his face with Lioha written under it and they just spam that everywhere. Apparently,
according to him, it came from his friend spamming it all over forums and now everyone on telegram
just posts the sticker of this guy's face everywhere and they put it in the game
and everyone loves this guy. He's super nice, he's super chill, down the earth, doesn't
get tilted type player. Like this is a guy that you should be rooting for.
And I think, Winter, you're no stranger to scouting talent and to trying them out and seeing how they do.
Having a guy on your squad that is supported like that by experienced players, that certainly brings out the best.
Yeah, it helps the young players settle in. A lot of the times young players when coming into like a very experienced team,
you kind of feel like you have a lot of this pressure. You don't want to let them down. They're TI winners.
You want to make sure that they can do well in the tournament.
and with your team managers giving you support, it definitely feels very nice.
And even in the initial stages when he just joined the team,
I felt like instantly he was already very comfortable with the team,
and that's a very, very good sign for the young player.
A very good sign. We've seen him pop off as well,
so I'm looking forward to seeing if he can do the same on the main stage,
because Saberleit is his first international,
and it's his first international main stage,
and it was nice playing in the group stages,
and you're playing from a hotel room, so that's lovely.
You know, it's obviously nicely set up there, but it's not this.
It's not a boom.
It's not.
Yeah, we'll see.
I mean, so far he doesn't stop surprising us.
He's managed to not choke when he joined Spirit.
Now during the group stage of the International, so honestly, I think he's going to do just
fine.
I feel like he's in really good hands.
He's got amazing teammates that are behind him that got this back.
And he's been playing incredible.
I just hope he keeps this confidence for the for the main stage as well. Yeah, I hope so as well
I want to talk a little bit about which players we are going to keep our eyes out for during the early stage of the game
Because not me is going to be one of them
But there's been a lot of conversations about mid lanes and then in particular how much help will they get?
From their position fours and fives winter
How do you feel like this matchup is going to go down with that in mind?
I think the difference in style is going to be very, very crucial.
Lau is a person that he doesn't really need too much from his support,
even though it's nice if your support can come over to help you secure the rune's best.
I think it's more important for BGM to get the support because he is the greedy player.
If he's playing his greedy heroes like Invoker, it's one of his favorites, or Tinker.
Hopefully you get to see a Tinker. I know not everybody.
Most of the players, they don't like to watch Tinker,
But I really like to see players play their signature heroes and I feel like BZM, he's
going to need his supports more to control the runes and get stacks done for him.
And he's going to need a lot more resources on the map so I feel like the lanes is going
to be very crucial because if your lanes go well, it means that your supports are
going to have the freedom to go and stack and do whatever for the mid laner.
If your lanes don't go too well and then you leave, your calls are going to be
crying.
Yeah, you don't want crying course. That's never never a good sign and that does mean a lot of pressure on those supports and we have gotten a couple of trends that we saw throughout the group stage in terms of of heroes played and not every support
Rea leans towards being able to rotate to the mid lane any heroes in particular you want to see I mean personally honestly not me on his rubik way you know I would take that yeah
I I do feel like it's nice to see a duo that I think usually we see like a kind of a saving
support, like some kind of ringmaster or Wyvern and then we see something that does more damage
like your hoodwinks and your dark willows and I really like when they're paired together
because I think it just gives a nice mix.
Anything that can move on the map though, I like as soon as I see a support duo where
it's like a cuttle and maybe a ringmaster and it's like once they have damage and
they can do stuff it's like is it enabling your cause or your cause going to be able
to do things without it, you're going to be able to hold your map space hopefully, but
I suppose get a little bit tricky and it makes me happier when they have more things that
they can do on the map.
They can't go and kill when they can't.
I know Taz is not a very good hero right now, but I mean, it has been one of the few
teams that utilizes this hero and this hero gives you a lot of options in, you mentioned
like the support duo.
Usually when you have Taz either 4 or 5, the other hero kind of becomes very flexible,
you can pick anything, you can swap your lanes around.
So I think this hero might be a hero where you can see both teams want to get themselves
on this hero, so you can actually have the advantage in the early game in terms of rotations.
He's one of the best heroes to move around and create kills.
Yeah, and it enables the play that Ironwing loves to play, which is play for the safe lane,
bring Ari on his task to the safe lane, and if you like all of their games kind of devolve
into this gameplay of like, let's try lane for the safe lane, 33 is farming the jungle,
and then the enemy team, there is, you either have to match it and bring three heroes to
the off lane and fight them or you kind of have to commit to their style and your off lane
is also farming back. So I'm interested to see how Spirit1 decides to respond to this.
It's like kind of, it's a very bullying playstyle.
But how about bringing the play to mid? Like try to make them go mid to fight at middle lane?
That is also a play they could easily just while you know iron wing supports are in the safe
lane you can have your supports on the mid lane pressuring BZM because I do feel like
As we mentioned before, Ironwing, they have three cores who kind of all need their game to get going
and they rely on it a lot. Whereas for Team Spirit, I feel like they're easily...
Like we had some stat, where Yatoro, he's not even in the top five networks at minute 10.
He can easily play from the back, Kolaps can easily play from the back, and Laurel, you know,
we all know him. This guy, he doesn't need anything. He's going to cook with water
and he's going to make the best soup you've ever tasted.
Yeah, I would agree. I I also feel like with with iron wing
I mean I just threw the group stage in general to this tournament a lot
It feels like we're seeing off lane is farming the triangle more often than the carries like I'll see a carries
Fennel I'm like oh, they're sacking for him and then the off laner comes. It just takes it
So I fit but the reason they can do that is because if you look at the map the carries literally just farming up and down like they
Farm they push out their safe lane they go and farm like the camps they've push out the same thing
They found the camps they just farm any camps in the bottom of this map so much
So if you take that tower and you can restrict that space from the carry
Like you're kind of ruining two causes games at once because they can't safely farm this line anymore
Especially if you put a ward down which a lot of teams do
And then you know your offlaner is then forced to also maybe then farm disadvantageous
And this is why I mentioned maybe the runes are going to be more important because if you secure the runes for the mid lane
you're going to be able to just run into wherever jungle the enemy is farming and just control the jungle and
and if you're greedy there's nothing you can do and you just have to play defensively and
on the side that controls the runes you just farm their camps and you sit on their jungle
and you take all their camps and you take their bounty runes and it's going to create a lot of
problems for you especially if you're iron wing and you have three greedy calls and you don't
have your main jungle to farm. It seems like we're going to have the battle of the greed
with this upcoming series and I do want to touch upon uh something's here that we we
we talked about already, I want to compare 33 and Collapse,
a lot of like four TI rings between the two of them,
it's crazy, but Saber,
they have such vastly different styles to play the game.
Yeah, I would say most off-laners have different styles
than 33.
Yeah, Collapse, he's more of the classical off-laner,
the initiated kind of guy, whereas 33, he obviously can play those heroes, but he has his own niche.
He has a really nice center, which I'm sure we'll see either picked or banned in this series,
but he has some unique heroes where he doesn't focus too much on winning the lane.
He instead just does his own thing and lets his team play the game in the way they want.
You speak a little bit about the dagger here and right now I feel like in the off lane like the dagger here
It's kind of feel like they're a bit more underwhelming because of the helm here
It's just better because of the map being bigger the dagger here
Just kind of feel like they just don't really find a place in the meta
Yeah, the meta kind of developed into if you are playing a dagger hero
You just kind of end up playing buying the dagger later like you on some center
You're gonna get it go helm then maybe hard or lotus and then you're gonna get the bling
There's other like some dark seer or tide where you would also get like one or two items and only later
You get a bling which I'm sure
Has something to do with the fact that the games are going so late and the blink dagger doesn't really give you anything
It doesn't help you farm
So you want like the other items that give you stats that help you let's say pull waves with with the dummy
And then eventually once you're really fat and out from the enemy off lander
Then you get the blink and then you can fight properly
Yeah, I remember seeing like in a Mars in group stage which went blink like first or second
I am and it just looked like there was nothing to do this here. It doesn't do any damage with his blink
It's like no one but you think you should buy a helmet on Mars right now
You think that's the build like you have to do you want to buy a helmet on this show? Is it possible that you can buy a helmet?
I picked a hero at that point.
On Mars, no. However, there is a very cool build on Mars that you can do at home as well
That is you get armlet first item, which is awesome
And then you get blight stone and then when you turn on your armlet and you press your shield slam
It insta kills a wave and then you farm a real fast and then you get your blink
Why don't we see it right now just I feel like a mar might do it to be very he seems like like the type
Laps played Maz in the group. I don't know how he built it. I
I'm not sure either. I would assume he bought some like Yule's blink because usually you would pick Mars for the control
Like the arena is just amazing for teamfights
When teams pick this Mars hero, it's for the purpose of let's have teamfight and let's have initiation
So you usually can't get away with with the amazing. I mean in theory he's very good against a draw SF kind of heroes
Yeah, exactly
He just can't really get past the lane. The lane is usually the problem
And the secondary problem is this year it does not jungle, so if you lose the lane, you are in big trouble.
And it is very easy to lose the lane in this meta.
Well, it sounds like there's a lot of focus on the farm.
Coming out for also what we've been talking about, hero item builds, we've been talking about what to do in the early stage of the game.
You want to play, they could go for it later after you were able to farm.
But that does mean that we should put some attention on the two carries.
We already talked about them separately a little bit, but Winter also here, we got Pure and Gatorra with two different styles
because Pure is not about that hard-carrying style that hides in the jungle for 30 minutes before he comes out.
He has to come out to fight the runes. I think we've seen Gatorra do it a lot, like whenever he's playing, even he's Luna.
I really like it when he plays Luna, he comes to the rune, he has level 6, he has ultimate and he just comes over to fight
and just helps to make Lene get the rune.
I think moves like this are going to be very, very crucial.
And Pure is also no strange to coming to help his team.
But I think a problem with Pure is he tends to sometimes be over-aggressive and he dies, you know,
or he plays in a way where he's not supposed to come to help.
I remember this one game he was playing juggernaut and he was just coming to help with nothing
and he just dies, you know, he just keeps...
And it tells you a lot about the mentality of the players.
They understand their role and it might look silly to the audience.
Like we were watching the game and figuring why is this carry coming over?
but it tells a lot about the team dynamics where he is needed to help the team because his other two cores are farming
And they need somebody to come and make space and he's the one if his lane is bad
If he loses his lane if white morn doesn't stabilize the lane and I think they are going to have a lot of problems
Ironically, I will talk more about them later
But with the team vision one of the things puppy
No, it that he was helping satanic with is the fact that when satanic was playing at it like his worst of scale
It was when he was joining too many fights when he was going for kills that wouldn't advance the game
Even if it was, you know, a kill that he could get for free or whatever, it was kind of like you could have been farming all the
Stronghold doing all the stuff and said and he's been training that boy to go and hit more camps to go and hit more creeps and
Breeds that never worth up. That's why he's topping GPM every game
So it's actually at least to that team to that coach to the player
It seems a farming more is better than killing and joining I mean
That's actually a really good point because you need to choose which fights to come to
You can't just blindly go to every single fight and the fight that's good for you
You go for it, you know, you don't blindly just take every single fight.
It's funny because the way it works is, especially for these mid runes, is by default, right?
It's just the two mid laners and then one team brings one support and then you're gonna win the fight if you bring two supports.
So then the first team brings also two supports.
So then you need to bring the off laner and then if the off laner comes, you also want to bring the carry.
But if the off laner doesn't come and you bring your carry, you like, you overplayed your hand.
You brought four when you needed just three and then it's just about learning or like getting a read in the game
Of how many numbers you need to bring and I would say it throughout ti as it goes later and later
I feel like this number increases and increases. I feel like at some point
We're just gonna see five versus five on runes a minute six
How long will it take for us to get there? Is there gonna be today doesn't need a couple
Five heroes minutes seven minutes. I'm like what is happening? Yeah, it's some grand finals
game four stuff where you're like oh yeah I'm gonna outsmart this guy I don't
think he they will expect the five heroes we've been doing four so far and
then you have to do the non-committer right you poke if you know your opponents
might bring so many heroes then you poke them and maybe you lose the support
they bring too many heroes and then you just farm the silence yeah you have
to become like you have to read the situation properly and that's why the
games like this are very very difficult to to assess like a team
being in a more, I feel like, tense mental state, they would just react and bring heroes no matter what.
They just play, you know, they don't think so much.
And that's the beauty of Dota. It can work in any scenario, however you decide.
It is quite fun to talk about how that might develop, but I think I'm gonna hold my breath for 5v5 minute in this game, at least,
as we are getting closer to getting our series on their way.
Don't worry, we will get there soon, but you know what?
We need to properly start this game.
So let's do that right now.
Iron Wing versus Team Spirit, Game 1.
that is coming our way. It's
time to talk about the draft
that is coming our way for game
one on the main event. We have
got team spirit on the
radiant side. Iron wing on the
dire side. First pick going the
way of team spirits and the
radiant team, and that means
last pick so they get to close out the entire draft. Let's see we have got a couple of key heroes
we want to keep our eyes on at the start of the game. One of them we've mentioned a lot already is
the Earth Spirit. Now it might not be bad because sometimes teams think you know what game one
we're gonna let it through because we think we can counter it and we don't know what happened
in the scrims the last few days and never mind and we do Earth Spirit has been winning
You know what, maybe they just think they'll put a suck at the hero.
That could be it could be that it's going to get banned out.
So we got a Largo banned out, Alina banned out and a member spirit
banned out in the 17 spirit with the tree protects their bane
and their spirit banned out by Ironwing.
They get one more ban before team spirit picks.
And yeah, it's you sure first pick as well.
I I was going to like bring up.
Oh, we've seen so many first pick centaurs will spirit take it
because I feel like Ironwings would if it was their turn for first pick.
but Collapsus not played it that much in comparison to other heroes.
I'm excited to see some Team Spirit draw ranger or Android.
They seem to love it on their first pick
and I think Ironwing are not as punishing of a team against draw.
They usually just let them do their thing.
And we got the Undying.
Even nicer.
This hero is absolutely busted.
Once you get the Shard, you can just hide people with Tombstone.
Yeah, you open your draft with a very strong support, I think this is very solid.
Keeps your options open that if you do want either longer or draw ranger later down the line.
Undying fits in any kind of archetype.
How about the offlane? When would be an idea to move in potentially to the offlane?
Trust me Winter, I would love to see undying offlane.
However, these guys do not like it for some reason. I have not asked them why.
Yeah, I want to know why, because it looked so powerful like just a little while ago
when you get this, because obviously with his ult, it's so powerful because when you hit someone
with it, you're doing so much more damage amp with your whole team, it's not just on dying.
So the ability to buy like a blink and just go on someone and be this massive flesh tank
and add that damage amp means that you can just burst heroes so easily.
And this is a meta as well where people are buying like hunts and stuff.
So you have so much HP that you have to get through.
Yeah, I think it's very strong. I'm assuming that it's a little bit of a cheesepick.
You kind of need to destroy your lane if you're offline and dying.
And that becomes a bit harder at TI. And I believe all the teams or like the meta developed in a way
where teams just want this undying for his tombstone safe later on.
And they just want to get like a lane secure for a turret kind of hero,
which teams very like a lot, you know, such as the draw,
Linus or the band shadow fiend exactly some laundry stuff like that and we
also got the invoker from iron wing which is very scary BGM one of the best
invokers in the world they're not afraid to first pick it when you say one of
the best who's better would you not say the best
um I know I'm here to invoke you should see my invoker I can involve here and
there. Okay fine fine fine. BCM is slightly above me. Yeah honestly probably the best Invoker
in the world. Yeah but I also want to talk a little bit about why Invoker, in my opinion
should be in the first phase because I think this hero, he kind of sucks in the lane.
So that's actually a very little point for me to pick this hero later if you see, to
wait to see your matchup. Because it doesn't matter who you lane against you're just
going to get a dumpster in the lane so why not just pick the hero early. Very true,
and they decide to cover it with the Slardar ban, which is... it's very nice against Invoker
once you don't have much armor, if you get amplified damage, then for girls if I...
Because he kills, unfortunately.
He does kill Force and the lane.
It does, however, give them an opening to pick the other Invoker counter, which is Puck,
which is also very hard to match up for Invoker, but...
First Spirit, they don't like Puck as much.
We'll see if they decide to go answered like that.
The hoodwing comes out for Ari and that is the hero that he has
Basically learned how to play Dota 2 on he has been very open about when he first started playing Dota
Wasn't too great. He was a poor player and then it's always like a you know
I this pearl lady haven't tried her and he arose to the top and he is it's one of his best performing heroes
And we also saw the record. He has played it a lot successfully
So obviously to be here on this main stage and as a bonus the hero itself
Seems to be very good in the current meta. It's another one of those heroes winter that seems to fit always
It helps you set up your Sunstrike. Yeah, I think whenever you have invoker
You need supports to have like some kind of setup, Bane for example, or Hootwing, any sort of stun
And right now Spirit, I think the reason why I was thinking like you mentioned Jonas about the pug
Maybe they can just pick the park right away.
But the other reason why I feel like they chose to go for the pangol is that
they probably wanted to keep the pangol as a flex
because he can go off and can go mid.
And they want to show, force their opponents to show more heroes
before they decide what they want to pick in the mid lane.
This Windranger as well, one of North Mee's heroes.
Like a very, very strong laner.
I think there's a lot of emphasis for the lane.
On dying wind, you're going to be very, very strong in the early stages.
You're going to be very good at fighting at the runes.
Yes, they got like the double double double flicks with pango and wind because both of those heroes can be played in multiple different roles
Which makes it a bit harder to draft for Ireland, but I imagine their draft is just they just want heroes that make sense together
They got the white one ring, very exciting. He's one of... Okay, I will not say one of the best. He's a very good ringmaster
Oh no, he is the best ringmaster!
He is! No best ringmaster!
Wow, this team is the best to everything in the world, yeah?
How can they lose?
How can they lose?
I mean, I would say it feels like with Windranger isn't it sort of pigeonholed into support here
because you're playing into Invoker, you have a very easy to spell against if it's core.
It's very possible.
I feel like they sometimes don't even care.
They just, they won't like, you know, you're like fast enough to dodge the tornado
unless it's coming from like right beside you.
Like a ghost walker.
It's an okay hero against Doom and Lane, but they could also easily pick their draw
which is also super good against Doom.
But I do feel like Team Spirit, they love picking this physical damage line up with the pango with minus armor.
They could just pick a kez and do 1 billion physical damage.
I love 1 billion damage.
1 billion damage!
Yeah, every offlaneer loves kez.
Well, Doom is one of the few that actually is okay against kez as you just Doom him.
and then he will die, because he's Ireland sometimes.
Sometimes, yes, but so far very strong lanes from Ironwing, like both of these supports are kind of picked to win the lane.
You also have Sunstrike from mid and both of these supports have like a slow or...
Which matchup would you actually prefer? Do you want like the ring against the Undying?
Like I feel like ring is probably better than for wing against Undying.
I think either one of them is okay. I would imagine they will put the
the hoodwink top, but you can play either of them.
And he doesn't really like these ranch heroes,
that he just keep hitting him forever.
Okay, and we got the laundry.
Very nice counterpick to Doom,
as you will never really be in the fight,
and you don't wanna doom a bear.
So this kinda covers it for them.
It also split pushes them up against the invoker.
So kinda balanced.
Do you feel like they have an issue here though?
For me, when I look at this lineup,
and I've looked at how lenders have been playing,
They are very afk like they sit in that jungle for very very long time
And that means that right now your other heroes playing on the map are wind ranger and undying potential duo support and a pango
And I don't feel like they do that much damage like you don't have this nuke from hoodwink or doff willow
It's I mean but in focus also kind of like like afk hero again like he's throwing some strikes here and there
But generally he's like just farming and pushing ways so you don't really I don't feel like they're gonna get pressure too much
I think in some games, I agree with you. Like the lone droid in the early game, he's gonna get punished.
But in this game, I'm not sure if he's gonna be punished by ironing unless they can find a pick here to like to prove me wrong.
But then again, because you have this undying and win support though,
which I feel like it's gonna give them the stability in the early game.
If your early game is stable, it's gonna be very hard for you to attack the lone droid in his jungle.
Yeah, I feel like so far, I'm liking the iron wing 4 heroes much more because I feel like with the Sun Strike,
you can easily bring three heroes top and if you manage to land the bushwalk on this laundry
it might just die. They have so much damage with just these four heroes. But you know luckily you
get to pick a fifth. I'm favoring them too just I feel like Invoker whilst you say is AFK when I
watched them they are buying this like me year hammer then they're able to farm ancient stacks
using the ice wall and the meteor hammer and then you know you have the ghost war to go and scout for
the Lone Druid on top of that and they have so many ways to like give vision with this hero and find
this hero and with the meteor hammer they can also rotate that to push in this safe lane tower and
restrict Lone Druid's farming space on top of that you can you still have a carry hero that
might also then be able to go through the gate and come and connect to push this tower I think
they could restrict spirit space really heavily right now so with that in mind you would like
carry four pure for this last player of iron wing that has not yet has a hero
unless they do some shenanigans with the with the do we do like one that is
active earlier yeah yes probably or I don't know if he wants to pick something
that has a stun for the sunshine like elk or something that can help them get
more kills but they'll have the oral aspect to decide where spirit they're
gonna need to figure out where to put the pangol are they happy putting the
pangol me or they do they have a better off thinner or do they want
to just you know take another mid hero like what would you like to play here
Jonas if you do you think like you want to take the pango here or you have
something else you feel like could accelerate the game for you it is not
easy because you need a hero that doesn't get come to pick too hard they
did ban the drawranger and TA for whatever they're gonna pick which are
a good bans for pango offline as well
Ooh, we talked about the Toss.
Interesting. So, I'm guessing it's Wind's core.
Undying core.
Undying off lane!
That would be hype.
I can stick it to side after they hit a carry matchup.
That is the beauty when you flex this much on first pick.
You can just decide after the draft is completed,
what do you want to send away.
And now it becomes a bit harder for Puer to pick his hero.
And this Toss is going to be one of the best heroes.
the best heroes, like I already brought up, like Taz could be a very critical hero in this series
because both teams are very greedy.
And a hero like Taz, you can just make a lot of rotations in the early game, especially against a Nidolka and kill him.
And put the pressure on the other side.
Sure, he's gonna want to get his meteor and his shard and push out waves, but you gotta get there, you know.
If your early game is gonna be bad, you're gonna have the worst timing and you're gonna lose a lot of control on the map.
So I really like the Taz here to run up their draft.
Yeah, he wants some of these, like, assassin heroes against Invoker
And then just keep coming mid and keep killing the Valkyrie.
He doesn't have many ways to survive.
If he's like too far up in the wave, he's just going to die.
And yeah, you don't want that to happen when you're in,
where you just want to farm.
He's probably not going to be getting any runes here.
Like he needs to kill the runes with a forge.
Not going to be too easy.
You know, I think looking at the supports,
I feel like Spirit has a very, very good support
to take the runes in.
They're going to see the cashier to round everything up.
But I personally feel like based on like the tempo,
I'm fair rings for you.
I like to be on the spirit side. I think they have the lineup that can play fast
They can control the runes and they can just run iron wing over and not let their creed draft come alive
I'm so glad we get to see an off lane on dying
Me too, I can't believe they finally did it
We made this happen, we made it
You made it happen
Hey, I was the one who suggested this, right at the beginning
All right, so well with that in mind that you guys have been talking the whole drafts
But how do you slightly favor iron wings drafts?
Is that still the case? Not that we have both drafts complete and we see who is playing what?
Now I see that it's a core undying and we have damage coming up from Rural and the Tuss support.
It basically sticks every issue I had with it. Obviously, there's still the Qes problem.
That hero is just stupid and that's, you know, stupid factor can always win.
But I think the early undying timing is going to allow them to just kind of roll these guys.
They have so much jump.
Okay, strong words, strong words, strong points, 14 spirit, how are you with that?
I agree, I agree, I think the plus and undying, you get the tag team plus the flash column
you're taking Tom, you're taking Roche.
You're going to run them over, sure you have a laundry which needs to AFK for 20 minutes,
but I think after that they're going to take all the objectives and they're going
to take control of the map.
You have to be the up on our server and you have to keep it concise.
Let's go one night. I love it. Oh yeah, it's gonna be a big
Oh, it's still going for spirit. I might be the jinx that we needed for I ring to take game one
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We do. We do. Thank you very much to our panel for bringing us into this.
Thank you all for watching and yeah, we have a hell of a matchup to start things all the matchups
They of course, it's top eight. You know, we're at the main event. They're all good matchups. Thankfully, so
So much to dive into and they're already into
First blood looks for another oh give him another kill why not a third it tastes so yummy for the bear
But white mod able to unicycle's way out of there 33 might not be so
The blocks coming in from Laurel. The crowd is liking what they're seeing and as they count on up to five
He gets rooted. He gets body blocked and killed
Yeah, what you're hearing right now. Shever was not kidding
Let me tell you that when team spirit is shown on the screen that cheers are very loud in here
They are clearly the fan favorite of this event. Oh, yeah, they are absolutely
Definitely the new team that's been adopted by the region we can say did they adopt that?
I feel like they're the ones who are putting all this effort to like get fans and everything and it has worked and they are behind them right now.
And that's such a good buff. Like, you know, I'm talking to people about like the idea of just having the crowd, right?
Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
They're then hyped!
33's in trouble again in Yakuro! On a killing spree here at some one minute.
Uh-oh.
Alright, well, I'm not a lone-jured expert, but I believe that's good to be happening on the hero that's rather greedy and a little absent sometimes in the early game.
Well, definitely will not hurt them. You know, it's one of those heroes that just can kind of get going once. And you know, throughout the group states, there's been a lot of focus on Laurel and him not being able to sort of have the impact that they wanted.
But man, if your bottom lane is going like this...
Another one.
What else is going to be able to set you up for success?
Yes, yes!
Alright, well, I mean, Iron Wing fans, before you enter Total Panic mode, there's one thing
that kept being brought up by both players, talent, anyone I talk to about Iron Wing, it's
like, yeah, but BZM's not gonna get Invoker.
That's what I heard every time.
Anytime this is brought up, it's like, well, he's not gonna get the Invoker, just a little
bit of Panic.
So, you have the Invoker, alright?
This is your backstop here, okay?
This is what's gonna provide the safety of this game for you on Iron Wing.
They're gonna definitely need it because it's get off to that type of start with a core
Line-up and trapped. Yep. The push that's eventually gonna come is gonna be pretty significant
But we'll see how they're able to deal with that six-in-one start here at just two minutes
I think the undying is a masterful way to play this draft for this matchup because both these teams
Well, particularly Ironwing really want to play the undying. They really want to use this as a five
It's very frustrating to play against white one is already this this player who's so good about controlling space and understanding
What are the high value areas in the game and controlling those with tombstone is obviously very easy
He loves the fight of the seven minute room, right? He loves to come in and take your stacks like how much our team stacking up there mid
Their mid cancer to try and help their course and he's always ready to deal that so they grab it early
And then they flex it back this awfully which I'm not dying has never stopped looking good
I think it still seems like a very good role for the hero.
And definitely in this type of matchup where you want to just run it doesn't keep going fast.
I mean, look at this. The pressure that you can put on early to kez, pure is not comfortable in this lane,
although 7 and 3 versus the 16 and 6, they're taking them down, man.
And we were only blessed with a few Nami games in the group stage to pass,
but when I was going around and watching other games, it was the Nami win range that kept it pressing me here.
Yeah, he's gonna need it right now. He's already used win run not leave a little bit of trouble
They get the turnaround silence is there some strike not gonna connect your well be collapsed can find a little bit of a cleanup
As he's gonna run down white mod one more punch is always gonna need does have stick in decay, so
You'll get it
Okay, so we can confirm the cast of curse works when we're not the main audio in the arena
I we can we can we can infer that now we can do that from anywhere. That's a specialty
I've done it during a replay before. You know, it's all powerful really here. So wow my goodness
We're bringing up the numbers early. I mean look throwing it on the screen. It is a good start
And this is exactly what say really bottom of the panel and said, you know, you're gonna see these heroes rotating in midnight to the
This is the vulnerability to Ciro though up top. That's nice. They need that one. Oh, and that's two kills
That's two heroes 125 on the tombstone like give me that gold
So again, whenever they start rotating these heroes out of there
It tells you that they're needing to make some type of a change because ironly is not liking what they're seeing and
Laurel is kind of
Gonna start bullying Bzm if Rue sticks around. Yeah, as long as he's got some friends
But now it's Rue. He gets caught with a TP from Rai. Very quick rotation.
R-O can get over and help us.
With a slow down and that's what BZM needs.
Can they do anything else to Laurel? It doesn't look like it.
Once I mean while Whitemon and not me, we're duking it out or something up there,
it's not me. Retreat back and Whitemon is all the way back this tier 2,
but has a sell so you can stay in the game.
3-3 has given up on the lane and while Yonorou doesn't want to just give it up for free,
though, he's gonna TP to the tier 2, bring them back.
They're going to TV in Rue.
OK, now it does already use the stun.
33 does have a TP if he wants to use it.
But now that the Rue is there, it's not going to happen.
So they manage to continue to bully 33.
Three deaths for him already.
That's not the 3-3-3 he wanted this event.
No, not what he's angling for at the moment, is it?
And not really that costing on Yadar, right?
Like, I mean, Rue's very happy to make that rotation.
The wave was already pushed down.
He's going to catch this wave at his tier one tower.
So really good opportunity to find that kill, push out the doom, but not take away any of
your own farm.
Leaving him at the top of the net worth by like a 1200 gold right now.
Yadaro is massive.
This is a serious problem, and if they get lucky with the rune, doesn't look like it's
illusion up top.
He does not have a forge spirit over there though, so that one is likely going to be
going to Laurel unless he's doing the long wraparound with it right now.
Regardless though, it does look like a great start for Team Spirit and Ironwing trying to
pick up the pieces a bit.
They have some stuff that's going to come online soon.
I mean, Ari, one of the heroes coming into this series that you were probably thinking
you might not see will be the Ari Hoodwink.
It has been his best hero.
If you ban the Hoodwink, he's going to play Dark Willow.
If you ban the Dark Willow, he's going to play Lion.
So they've just given him the Hoodwink and this trade of heroes in the draft.
And when he hits six, he's going to be looking to really get some kills around
Like pushback into sharp shooter into Sun strike people are gonna die and the plus side of 33 dying so much
And it's already actually already level five and now as they move in y'all
Oh, he doesn't walk back into the Sun strike. You've kind of hit those with the foot back and now the minutes
They're gonna be able to take this wisdom away on dying holding the other
Iron wing
Really not feeling good about this. They needed that one gave. I'm not gonna lie. That's that's a tough one
right with the kids that's when you get these levels right that's when you get
the six on the hoodwink that's what brings it back and now 33 not attack he
just saw them they're not letting him breathe there's no way to go 33 tomb was
feared so much in spirit seem to have come up with answers to it they're
gonna bush lack of bear that's cool it's not gonna do anything
and boy all right well four points in Exo right now time to start doing some
calculations these other heroes collapse okay in trouble here it is a kes right
on top not not a fun time for any awfully that is a bonus like you can see
these fours are still getting relatively farmed not me quite enough to get the
kill there with the Sunstrike BZM but this could be a good move unfortunately
not level six on 33 so they can't just drop the doom off they do secure that
The haste will not go to him though is white on getting ran at by collapsed the zombies just chasing him down a good
Whoopie cushion to try and get away, but it doesn't look like it's gonna end up mattering
Unnecessary to keep you from while I guess just in case there was some backup Rue was there too man
They are putting so much effort into keeping him alive right now
In the meantime how we're taken by team spirit pure
Thinking to himself. There's not really anything else to do. They're still just working on the perseverance
I mean, are they gonna be able to come on line in time?
Like, because going in for this item, you know,
trying to play with the Invoker,
Doom has not been able to do anything.
Like, who's gonna do anything for Ironwing?
I mean, Ari really needs this level six.
I mean, that's the truth.
It's like, why am I still level four?
He's hoping that they can get some plays up here
to maybe get him a little XP,
but I imagine it's Ari picking up a little bit.
There he goes.
Level six, unfortunately it is spotted
under an observer ward by the Radiant
that they left near that previous tier two down bottom.
So they're going to be aware that Arya has hit six
and will definitely be looking for a maneuver.
Nautnys a pretty hard target to go for.
Lyral's playing really far back right now,
just farming the jungle.
Yeah, I mean, this Doom also hitting level six now.
So there is an opportunity there,
but I mean, it's pretty hard to just walk up
and doom these heroes.
Few to like five minutes from now
when he walks up and dooms the heroes.
Yes, you know, there's no time.
It should be like that sometimes.
But we'll see.
It's got the little
poker-smasher creep as well.
I'd love to see that.
Yeah, Eyes on a Midas.
I mean, that's the type of game it is.
Ironwing, understanding early, like,
we need to just sort of dodge and get to our items.
We'll see if he decides to fully commit for that or not,
as the stacks are being built.
The other plus side is Team Spirit does not know about these yet.
That is the real quest marker,
because you have the meteor hammer done for the invoker.
We know we need this recovery for pretty much everyone on the team.
So any stacks are amazing at the moment.
And the fact that collapse on this core off lane on dying
is not able to throw it in here is a very good news for them.
So here's what the panel has got.
Ice ball, meteor hammer.
Go ahead, do this in your pugs.
It's very nice. Get some gold.
There's a lot of gold and doom there to help out.
Make a couple of these off the way as well.
Yeah, this is, you know, they're sort of ketchup mechanic.
You can see it's not really fully caught up as Spirit has had a really good early game,
but it's something that at least starts getting them to that next item, those next levels,
that maybe are going to allow them to prevent some of this snowball continuing to roll.
And the elstromb is done for Yachter already.
And the next stage of that is taking these top towers.
We've got big rotations coming from Ironwing on top.
They want to defend this tier one.
Tornado does connect.
They've got the meteor hammer after the fact, but finds the shackle on the boat.
I like how he can control.
He stops for the power shot anyway, even though it's not really enough.
Man, they do lose the toss.
Yeah, Bruce forced the snowball, ends up dying.
They're gonna keep chasing here. That is not gonna hit from here.
Oh!
Very nice collapse.
So, 12 to 6.
And again, just trying to defend this.
I like, we've got two powers in the hard camp.
Being hit by a power shot by Nautnia's gun.
That feels so bad.
Yeah, that...
We're sharing the hard camp together and somehow the support is stealing something from us?
Meanwhile, they're smoking up.
Now, where do you even go?
Like, you try and wrap around them, they're scanning to see if they can get up onto this high ground right now.
I mean, if they get around and find Invoker up there,
collapse is sort of hanging out with this tiara there.
Oh, cuts the tree too!
They do manage to hit the structure! Sunstrike, walk back and do it!
Okay, here comes the wrap around.
Sometimes you get a freehand, but this would be a nice kill to get in turn.
BZM disarmed for the moment, they cycle to the moment under forward,
to find and kill BZM.
Here, can he get out of there?
Does?
Not a mother control shackle, will not lad, he might be trying to have enough damage anyways.
Backed away, feared down, Loro is in trouble and going to die to this.
But they got what they came for.
Is it going to be anymore?
Yes, they managed to find Rue.
In the meantime, Yadarov is losing or something. They're taking down that tower.
Nice use of the space. I will say that.
Not a good trade except for the tower. That part of it is good for Spirit,
but that is not what they drew up, right?
Klaaps is hoping to bait them in the engagement and sort of take it at the same time
and send him to die first. Now in the end, they're also going to lose not me, so...
Yeah.
Ausli take of a tier one mid. Klaaps does get a revenge kill on the Ari here.
As he starts heading into a modern-day Largo build.
Can't, you know, name the zero. Could be either.
I will say it does look like things have gotten a lot better for Ironling over the last couple of minutes.
Like, yes, Yadarov is still immense.
But there has been a couple of these trade fights that look pretty good.
Now, this would be pretty bad if Pure gets brought down.
Do they have a way to chase him any farther?
Dust out?
does not have a slowdown there and a punch with the same coming to your clock
and they just have enough too much chase and catch happening right now and we're
gonna have that early essence distiller on not me as well so we see the
lockers thick as keep tracking him down for the ulti very annoying
Here more tower taken sub 14 minutes, and we have not been able to get similar success on these buildings across the rest of the map
It's about going up high ground Ari. I like to go to get them there with the bush wax
I mean it is a lot like if you get a bush wax with the you know finding this the sharp shooter into a sunstreak
Somebody will die to that
It's true, but they're playing defense in their own jungle right now. Just trying to hold them back
He's trying to provide a space for BZM and 3-3 to farm, but they're losing their own wisdom room
Yeah, and now we got wisdom trying to also be taken on the ratings side by clap
So they've lost all four the wisdoms so far this game
Yeah, the experience differences is definitely a problem of somehow not me is still just level 7 on the win ranger
That's fine. It's been running around trying to do a lot
But yeah
Not lonely for one of the other heroes and you've seen what this hero can do when he's
Left to just mean the vice look at these him
My guy has been sitting in the pool. He's just hiding behind his tier two lasting with four spirits. Yeah
You know he is having a bad time. It's very true
I mean, he's got eyes on the boots of travel in the meantime. There's a smoke going towards cats and
Ari white mon are they gonna try and pull him into this and make a go at somebody
They do need someone here to kill them look like that's the thing that he needs to farm to if they miss on this smoke
It feels really bad. So yeah, and look what Rue's doing right?
We're seeing this a lot this guy, especially near the end of the groove stage the supports if you are winning
They're just doing a lot of this. Yeah a lot of finding a buddy
You know if you get lost in the woods, you're supposed to hug a tree
That's what you're supposed to do so that you know
You don't move around too much and the search and rescue can find you Rue is hugging a corp, you know
He wants to keep them alive. Oh, there we go. Yeah, and now they know now they know they're heading down this way
Are they gonna try and fully commit for taking this? I mean they've rocked four heroes
So it feels like
I don't know if Spear they're gonna give it up for nothing. There was a smoke and the cliff hits on the meteor hammer though feels good
Starting to make the move
There's a lot of heroes.
They're collapsed nearby.
They get the tower until they get out.
Iron Wing trying to run.
They find one.
It's White Mines.
I think if you're Iron Wing, you're
going to be happy with just losing him.
Now, 3,000 gold lead here at six minutes.
Staying steady is collapsed almost
has that first item, Octurine, done.
Oh, yeah.
What a shackle for not being fine to get them kills them.
I heard not me had a deal with the manager that if he plays well enough on Windranger, they're going to buy him that statue.
Oh, my God.
And so far, he's five out of six on the shackles, so I hope they pre-ordered one.
I mean, I feel like if you always, when Jim comes out of the club, is he actually going to die here?
Well, they're bringing in a lot of numbers.
He's low, Sunstrike not going to hit the left.
He lifts through the dome, and now 33.
even double top rule would not need.
Oh, it's pretty.
It's very pretty.
Ah.
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
That's the Agnum Scepter now finished as well for this
lone druid, by the way.
We have entered the problem zone right now.
The S2S is still as well for the wind rangers.
We're trying to deal with this,
because problematic issues arriving now for Ironwing
is they again just try and get some gold on these
heroes to try and find a spot where they can actually
fight because there are uncertainties in Doty.
You don't know where the enemy core is farming in the fall, you can't be sure of it, but you know that the torment is going to spawn in 20 minutes.
Do you think you can find the tormenter right now with Ironwing?
Oh god.
It doesn't look like it doesn't.
I think you would like to.
Right.
The other thing though too is that like as the map is getting more and more constricted, it's feeling like they're really pushing Ironwing into a corner where there's only going to be a couple of places where they're able to farm.
They can keep this sort of pincher move going and keep them stuck in a certain area.
The pick offs are going to be relentless.
Time will tell how this one ends up working out.
Ironwing definitely have some late game potential
if they can handle this storm of pressure coming from Team Spirit.
And it's worth noting this is not what Team Spirit is like.
No, I was about to bring that up.
We have a reversal of roles right now, right?
This is typically a Team Spirit who are down maybe 4k around 20 minutes, but you got this faith that like I don't win a big team fight.
And they don't, I mean they're ahead now, so it's pretty good.
Ori throws out the sharpshooter, it's not going to connect in a meaningful way.
In the meantime, the bear is found, but with Rune nearby, we just end up being a Boker who goes down first.
Yeah, not much you can do about that bear. Time to just back it up.
But yeah, it's Team Spirit that are known these comebacks. It's not really an Arling thing.
Arling are used to having some sort of a cheeky little part of their lineup
They they grind their way into a way to a lead and they just hold that lead
They don't tend to make really aggressive moves either to like really grow that lead
They're very happy like holding a 5k lead till Roche and then they get their rush and then they feel more comfortable moving forward
But when they're behind like this, it's a it's a different game
Right. You had that sort of thing that you were talking about of like sort of that the highlight
Yeah, that's their go-to. I mean, they are making highlight plays right now for this game for sure.
Like Team Spirit is a team that, they might be behind a little bit, but you see these individually efforts
and these like two or three hero skirmishers that really impress you, or the way they take a fight
after immediately losing the Aegis is like classic Team Spirit.
Maybe they just aren't as used to playing from ahead and that'll hurt them.
That's the cope right now, if you're not in these things.
Well, they start the doom right away. Snowball, save on everything!
Is it gonna be enough to keep alive tornado after the fact Ari is already dead now?
It is going to be enough to kill off the undying
Okay, ice wall is down tries to stop any extra aggro and it's a blink away from doom understand the danger
Good trade. Yeah support for a core
I mean are you are kind of hoping to scale him a little bit in his classic way
So that hurts to be losing him, but you still get a better trade out of it
Not if you lose your cast though.
This one feels mighty bad as if you're nowhere left to go.
Laurel and Collapse make their move and even a little bit of retribution as they take down the bear.
It never feels as good as a real poor kill.
There's two heroes this tournament that have had this very frustrating impact I think to play against.
They're dead and then suddenly they're back and that's the Ember who can immediately buy back into the remnants.
And it's this undying with the ceaseless dirge.
like you're supposed to kind of gain something when you kill a core hero and
He was just back and just immediately killed pure. Yes, you know I mean
Yeah, I think he's just out on the map farming again with his octereen core. Oh
That is I did not make it next to the season
That's very clever. I like it. Everything else, but it's already really good. I need to consider that
Well, they are going to move on into the Roche now with the 4k Goldlee team spirit
Just before wisdom, maybe this means Iron Queen is finally going to be able to get a wisdom run.
It looks like it is. Whitemon is heading over that direction.
And yeah, you can see just the idea is immediately do a ghost scepter and a blink dagger.
All right, they got a wisdom shrine. Let's go. Whoo!
All right, the good news, it is only a 4k lead. And yeah, like that's the,
this is the classic of we seem to be getting these big leads right out of the laning stage
and the leads often stall out. Part of that is because the map is very big.
There is a lot of places to farm, so if you don't invade and take away these really tight areas near the tier 2 on either side
for heroes to farm, then they can keep up and spearwork a little slow getting some of the towers as well.
So it slowed down the progression to taking their tones away, as you say, with Whitemon fall.
But again, this is the issue where the tormentors up, the roaches up.
They can definitely take these very easily on Spirit if they ever want to bring in Yadaro for them.
the longer you wait, the better chance iron wing do have to defend them as well.
Right.
So I think there is somewhat of a pressure here to go after these objectives.
Right.
To keep the ball rolling.
Like, not just the Aegis, right?
Get the Tormentor as well.
I mean, this right here is going to be a little scary.
The bear does that to your carry, just to steal away a Centaur, that speaks to
how comfortable they're feeling in the game and now blink dagger done on the tusk so bringing pure a
little bit low with the bear now hunting in with more your gets immediately caught by Laurel and
yeah two salvos he's down white mon not gonna be long for that world either is a move in with Laurel
get that kill too keep in mind I think low drew is like a what 35 or something percent one right
Am I crazy on that? I feel like this hero has struggled actually like it wasn't you know
We all know it's very powerful
But some teams were struggling to succeed with it because it felt like it didn't do a lot early
Right. We have nine kills on this bear at 22 minutes
So either team spirit really thought about that in terms of you know
We should get some connections with the hero and like try and be aggressive a bit early and utilize this I
Guess that must be part of it because it kind of makes sense that this is the hero
you would offer up in the draft after seeing the whole group stage as a unit right and recognizing
what heroes did really well like that Earth spirit and what heroes seem to be struggling
like the lone druid.
Well and some of that is the early kills but also I think just the laning setup and switching
that on dying to offlane really changed the dynamic of what the draft was looking
like and Ironwing were not able to adjust quickly enough obviously and just kind of
got ran at so far.
It's not out of this world that they're going to be able to make something happen, but the
tetanus are a little scary.
The fear is there.
Looking for a doom, maybe 33?
Think about it Chase, they've got the tusk already onto the invoker, but the turnaround
is going to be there.
Nice.
Over extension from Spirit, Ironwing.
They capitalize.
I think all of their good moments have just been turnaround plays.
Have they initiated much of an aggressive maneuver at all on Ironwing?
I don't think so.
It certainly hasn't been their forte this one.
one doom down bottom on the collapse, but yeah, it's not been a whole lot of that
So there is this force pressure coming out here from Team Spirit and
Whatever you make those moves you have to be very certain that you're going to connect and at least get a good trade
They were very ready in that area
team spirit
Our own collapse heading down bottom
We'll see if the bear decides to come and join them
He already has three components of an Agatom Scepter along with Blink Dagger Laurel.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
I'm in there.
We have that Shard on the Undying 2 with the Snowball, so trying to kill these heroes is
going to be very tough because that Ag is going to add even more HP to this Pengal
already.
He has his barriers going.
He's going to get pushed into the Snowball, put in the Tombstone.
It's very difficult to get a final kill here and they've struggled to link together
all their abilities, right?
Yeah.
of a bushwhack into the wheel of wonder. Try and lock them all down. It's not all
hitting right now. The Shiva's guard will be great if they can get it here on the
3-3 as he gets punched up. Of course the DKB is worried about there being more
heroes here. I thought it was just a little goblin. Right? Right on. They find him.
Now going into the box, Lara was looking for more heat by getting collapsed.
does get brought down by BZM so a big kill there they're gonna be able to do
something he's got to oh this would be such a big get it oh get it yeah oh no
that was your violent oh no he did not he did them that yeah you know he's like
I would have to like it was just it wasn't gonna work it wouldn't be enough
Oh easy em does manage to get out of there
It is it is very funny to find those the fake hero
This is a long druid just off hermiting his way into the like the small little camps on the edge of the map by their base
Right, I mean it was probably yeah, not enough time on the ages that it would have mattered anyways, so
just now expires
26 minutes and you can definitely feel it is a game of cat and mouse going on right now
He's trying to hunt and kill Ironwing where they can and Ironwing just hunting creep waves
Stopping team spirit from pushing these out and getting pressure on the tower. They've done a good job of keeping them off their tier 2s
They did an excellent job of keeping this lead stagnant first place
Like it is not a great sign
It feels like Ironwing are still able to move out pretty freely on their side of the map and get a lot of the camps that they want
Yeah three three
And be careful here.
As is BKB.
The punch is there, now catching him in the shard, starts to doom down. Essence to still are already expended.
Does he have enough to live through this? That don't work buddy.
There's he all right on this doom.
And now, with Yonro forwards, they find the shackle, the latch, the connection, and 33.
Going down. No backup in time here for the rest of Ironwing.
Now, again, this is 3-3, like kind of playing a little bit ahead.
He's giving the space to his Kez and an invoker so they can be farming in there because Kez is a hero then.
If they don't start snowballing early, they tend to struggle to catch up here as they can drop another.
But that's his BKB, so Kez can now play the game.
He's getting out and they hopped the dusk, see him there.
Flaps walks forward, don't know what he thought was going to happen there.
A tornado barely keeps him alive.
now gonna be able to find that kill with pure in the area hops back inside the
tombstone for collapse makes about walking into a rainy manna stepping forward
not me after all they're right on top of pure pure needs to get out of there they
slow down a bit today I'm enough though not quite the Wheel of Wonder will not get
any hypnotizes out so it's gonna be forced to tee pee away
I'll instantly back to pushing out this mid lane as VZM they die pretty
But Yadar is still working on the top tier 2 tower. The heroes aren't gonna come in here though.
I don't think he's gonna get a chance to finish those off. They're not sticking with the bear
They're worried about the fight after or not. Are the bears gonna get it, maybe? Yeah, that's mine. All right
Where's your leg go? That's fine. Yeah, not a big deal. Who wants a tier 2? That's all good
So Jem picked up down for Windranger
You're still wanting to get into that agonist scepter that gives you so much more freedom
To make moves
Iron Wing they finish a sheba's garden with some DKB now done for lone druid as well
Yeah, I mean
It's definitely feeling like they're gonna need to win a fight at some point or like hope the team spirit over extended weird ways
Cuz I don't think they can win five on fives at this
No, no this bear with a BKB is a problem. Like he is just gonna run in what is gonna happen to him
What what are they gonna do? He's just gonna start eating somebody. Yeah
So this is the let's get our wards down and let's just guarantee it and yeah, that feels
bad.
There goes the Aghanim Scepter for quite a while on this heads.
Did he, oh he's still the rest of the body right?
He finished the pk.
Yeah, whatever.
That's okay.
The bear comes in, gets another tier 2 tower and yeah, no response at all.
Oh god, I mean you've got to kill this bear here surely.
I mean they've made a decision in terms of when and when they're not going to
fight.
Yes.
I mean, that's Lore-actored. I don't think a bear is very good at catching a squirrel.
That's a good point, you know.
Yeah, she get a buff for her lane.
Definitely a hero that needs it.
Yeah, I agree.
All right, second roaches up now.
33 still sitting pretty with his Midas.
Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Yeah, that's a good one.
is Midas
Hemmed into their base, you know instead of Sun strike there from iron wing to scout the fact that Roche is up
Okay, so they know they're coming down. This is it. This is their aggressive maneuver
They're gonna move carefully with purpose to potentially
For them find their first real aggressive maneuver of the game
Lyrical it it's not progressing very forward. No, it appears to be just a little on their own
We've gone from the North American football to rugby.
We simply throw the ball to the side.
I understand.
They would really like to catch this bear and he's gone.
Yeah, that one hurts.
That doesn't feel great.
The sideways smoke.
Okay.
Okay.
They have more smokes.
They threw enough smoke.
They actually have many smokes.
They haven't done it.
They have three smokes right now.
Okay.
Dude, that's odd.
All right.
So this is, it's kind of like when you throw a dart the first time and you're way off.
But you know that was just like a calibrating guy, right?
You're understanding.
Now they understand their side is clear.
They can smoke slightly further.
Yes.
Now a smoke gank begins with a single smoke gank that's bad.
Well, let's see if they can get one here on Spirit.
They are running directly into the area that Ironwing is at.
A bear.
But a teepee away from the invoker.
I mean, yeah, I think they just recognize
that they still can't really fight this easily.
Oh, he just blinked.
Yeah, RE is gonna get caught and killed here, but...
It's sad that Blinky Noob's own jungle is considered an aggressive blink right now,
but that was an aggressive blink.
I mean, Team Spirit is just so good at this point in the game,
reading the map, understanding where their opponents are gonna be,
and then of course playing around objectives.
This is where Team Spirit, you know, it's the red spot.
Yeah, and they're not messing around.
Roshan has Ror, they instantly drop the team stone.
This is not a place you can fight as Iron Wing, and...
Okay, safety first.
Yes, he got hit by the essence, so had to be KB to get out of there.
Meanwhile, Kaz, is he going to be so lucky?
Easy M. Whitemon retreating, understanding what could be coming their way.
Not me, still on the chase.
He's a little bit ahead of the rest of the heroes on the team, except for Yadaro,
on the bear, who's going to run right into pure broken, feared, rooted damage
out. That is your carry. That is your carry. That doesn't feel good at all.
If your team manages to get away, they drop the doom onto the win.
Riyadarou does not appear to be given up.
And I try to just chase him down.
The solo kill.
Mr. Riyadarou, I don't feel so good.
Look at this guy. And now another.
Oh, another! Another!
You feed more heroes to deal with the bear.
It is eventually going to get brought down.
Oh, the crowd liked that.
Yeah, none of the buttons had to press too often in this game.
Something there.
Yeah.
Not wrong.
Geez.
All right, the new model is out.
That is absurd.
A very, very strong bear.
32 to 15.
But, but he had a BKB.
He did have a BKB.
Why did he still die?
I mean, you know.
This hero seems quite strong.
I will say, uh, Lone Druid just got a little bit stronger, with the finished Disperser now done.
Hmm, and...
I mean, okay, if they can kill the bear right now, actually, this could be an issue.
Well, they'd be able to. They're thinking about it, but they've made it out.
Now the Walrus Bunch 33 nullified roll through from Laurel.
They know he doesn't have a DKB because he can sit down bottom easy, jumps in,
finds the Undyne, good damage out, gets the kill!
Another overextension by Spearing.
And now...
They have to chase. This is so desperately needed.
They've cut the lead down a little bit here too.
Laurel gotta get away. He doesn't have much mana at all to use his abilities.
R is still trying to find him. They see the creeps where they are moving, but...
Tier 2 is still off.
Gonna be a bit too far to chase.
They will regain control of the Roadpost.
So that relieves some of the pressure.
And not me seeing his friends dead.
Just get a little bit of farm at the top of the map.
Notably did not have to use resummon again, as the bear did get out, so we'll have it for a little while.
But yeah, showing in that last instance how strong the EMP can be from the Invoker, just burning through the mana of several of these heroes, it's a big issue.
Ironwing exploring endures territory here is a radiant side of the map.
I think the first time they've actually gone through their ancient elements.
Unfortunately, they don't find anyone to kill.
They will now find not me on his way back over to his own side though.
Ah, silenced and dead!
I'm keeping their numbers of banter now, just keep keeping them up further on the map, and maybe they should be bear forced to VKB.
33.
I'm glad it's not to drop it there, and the bear gets away.
So yes, a...
5K...
Gold lead, it's sort of dwindling back and forth a little bit here.
Team Spirit, for the last several minutes, have taken a couple of hits.
Still in a strong and comfortable position, but we'll see if that continues to change.
Yeah, for me right now, the Goldie isn't really the factor, it is the save.
It is the layering of the saves that are still available here on Team Spirit that gives them the edge in these team fights.
And that's what I'm looking for for Iron Waze, how do they deal with that?
Again, going to use another smoke, they're burning through their stockpiles right now.
This does got to work for them and collapse the first group they run into.
He got it, and in response, gets the ulti off, immediately do.
Laurel, rolling around, doesn't quite connect on the pure or arry, but 30-3 is in, and 3-8 far,
and now Laurel is gonna hunt the Invoker while 33 gets gobbled up by the low-true at BZM,
DKB out, throws out a couple good meteors, manages to burn through that aegis.
Okay, 1 for 2 so far, collapse, this is gonna be able to lift through most of this,
but eventually only gets safe in the tombstone!
Yadaro there right on top of Purius! God's gonna go down! Yes!
But now Moon is saved by...
Alright, what are they gonna do?
Is it hard to leave? Are they gonna chase?
The shackle lands completely good,
going connected from the Forge Pier.
Purius gonna hop the ulti, Yadaro continues to run in with the bear.
It's low, and eventually it dies.
Alright. Summon Force out here again from Yadaro.
More gold going the way of Ironwing,
and the insta-doom on the Undying.
That is the key turn, right? That's definitely the most impact on it removes one of the saves since he's got that shirt on the tombstone
And also reduced obviously is just ridiculous amount of healing and everything the problem is he is surviving through it
But he is a little bit weaker as he engaged into the rest of the fight
So that helps them bring him back. We talked about BGM being the answer for this lineup and iron wing if they could manage to
Come away with a victory here
This would be one of the more impressive wins that we've seen from them because they said this is not a team
That's you know known consistently for coming back like crazy. Obviously they can do it
But team spirit in the late game is a difficult piece to battle against
We saw in the panel right talking about the match duration and the averages that they have yeah
They're very similar averaging around like 46 minutes. I believe in terms of their game
so both of them very confident heading late they both had some late games already in this tournament and
And late game is when you you get a little bit of time, you know
The idea of the game becomes quite a bit clearer
You learn all kinds of new things every game of Dota that you play in terms of interactions and ways you can deal with a certain
combination that is
This is the basher reveal from Laurel. Do they have a way to break it? Yes, they do
So easy M finally gonna be punished as Laurel picks up that key item. I got a bear. I got a basher
We uh, we're gonna have a hard time bkbtp another one. Oh, yeah
So that is the type of kill that team spirit need to feel confident moving forward here
And it looks like they're gonna try and pressure this bottom collapse
Classes move the banner into his inventory. Okay. We are getting aggressive. Let's do it. We're moving in high ground is on the menu
See if they decide to make this move again 60 seconds with no buyback
Yeah, they're cutting waves, it looks like.
I'm wanting to at least.
But they're going to need to deal with this one.
They enter down.
Building's open. 33.
What can you do to try and stop this bear?
Throw out the boomerang.
They are smoked behind.
So, yeah, I only need to find a way to get to the real heroes
because Yaro is just going to take the entire set of racks.
One range creep.
Yeah.
Gloriously attacking.
And they get it and honestly, I mean, Ironwing left it, they need to address this.
Well, they can't turn it in here.
Yawlo is going to keep hitting these buildings. Pura is not in the base right now.
And I'm not sure what exactly it is that they're waiting for. I think it's going to change.
We give up the tier 3s, we give up the tier 3s.
Alright, and Boker.
Yeah, we give up the tier 3s?
We give up the tier 3s.
We give up the tier 3s?
I don't know, they don't have to consider it at the very least.
The lane was very far pushed out.
Yeah, so they will go back regroup and I'm sure they have some lovely items to add to their inventory right now
Right, that's fair. Yeah, I mean and I guess as Invoker was respawning team spirit
We're not gonna fully commit to it
So just get some good damage onto that building then head out of there butterfly done for Kez
Hey, that's big
Really pure really is not being able to do a ton of damage this game. It's been rough for him
Yeah, he feels like he spends most of his fights just running away
And that has made it rather difficult
Yeah, that level 25 loan drew with the the mollish and with a butterfly
He does not have an MKB that's the only thing he doesn't have yeah
That that number is not where you want to see your case at this point of the game especially compared to the loan through it
That appeared to be the lowest number
Is Tusk in there, you know, oh, I went on this team. Oh, yeah
Thank you for finding the whole yes
Without damaging the enemy tusk, I mean if you consider the damage amp that he's given to winter injures, you know, maybe
All right the bear the bear hungers. All right get out of there, buddy
Then pure are gonna get some separation and immediately teepees out also on the invoker
Ironwing
definitely
Just trying to delay this
spirit getting those items to shut down that split.
And they instantly smoke up and say they're going to move up into this top lane as well.
So they want to get full control of this area, just keep seeing the drawing on the map here.
First it was from not me, now it's from Ari saying, hey they're all going to be in here
because they want to control the area between the two tier 3's that they're pushing.
So it makes sense.
Coming from Iron Lean as well though, are they going to try and go on this there?
If they do, there's going to be a lot of heroes who will join them very soon.
away for the moment. It's a little sketchy here. I'm still kind of thinking about the
idea of going in. Dyer scanning, not hitting on to anybody. But into the pit, Nottie will
go. Now this is going to roar. Yeah, he's forcing out the roar himself. It's very interesting,
but unfortunately he's not able to get it. MKB achieved now as well by the lone
druid so the kez had a couple sparse minutes of having butterfly ready for himself and now
it's not even going to matter. Yeah that's tough. Doesn't really help them out very much
versus the other matchups either unfortunately. This is also the big rose. Third rose, it drops
this lovely thing called the banner. I love this. Some cheese and a refresher shard.
So that would be a great way for Arnway to get back in the fight because if you had those
those items sitting on the high ground. Even with a lone druid that can be a tough one to
push into just because it isn't invoker.
Yes.
The guy already has a lot of spells. If he gets to throw them all out twice, it can be
quite a hurdle to hurdle over.
Hmm.
The thumb strike sees that Roche is up.
And you can see the conjurer's catalyst.
Alright, so Beezio...
Oh, the what?
He's 25. He's got conjurer's catalyst.
If there was ever going to be a hero that could pull you back from the brink, you would be this Invoker.
BGM, Honest Invoker. Has a linkage as well to try and stay alive. Has to, you know, infest fairly defensively.
And this one, unfortunately.
And again, for anybody that's not aware, it's as you deal damage, you continue to deal imp damage in an AoE around the target.
So, it really just amplifies everything.
It's really just good on everyone.
Yeah, it's really good on everyone.
I'm strike looking for the site there can't quite get it.
They are very close right now in Ironwing.
They are.
Do they want to go or he could think about a bushwhack when they're walking around?
He's just like force a PKB and trying to get back.
Is that what he's thinking?
No.
Because he does not have a team for a fight right now.
No, it's looking a little bit dubious there.
Invoker is going to go hunt the bear again.
Easy.
I find it.
Conor O gets hit on the bear, they bring in some more, tries to get away EMP out.
Oh, it's so annoying.
Loan drew a man.
I mean, little known fact, they can surf.
You can tell by him going so fast.
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, oh!
But the snow ball saved us there, now Pure is in pretty deep, looks for the punch, saving Laro.
Sun strike does manage to get back.
EZM on target, not me now also found.
Team Spirit, are they in a little bit too far?
Where's the save?
They're fine-scalastic.
Take me! You're scaring the troll!
Look at that damage!
BZM with a double kill, takes the boat out!
They're fine back to try and get back into this one.
There's no way that can be good.
There's not any in trouble.
Bound some strike. That one's off the mark.
But the hit's coming out from BZM.
Oh my god, the damage is gonna be nuts.
Yeah, Pure, you had to tip him.
Because Pure just got insta-dead.
Like he went back into that fight he got blown up in three seconds flat
But it set it up right it gave the space for BZM to cast all those spells and yeah
This is exactly what they have been waiting for from their key player on the Ivar Ea. He just died. I mean look
There's there's an issue that's coming out here
They're not careful
Easy if they can fade out the BKBs. This BZM almost like I carry this
It's instantly back down though.
It brings it down to about half HP, but then gets out.
Oh, man.
All right, we got a good game.
We got to get a game.
5k gold lead in 46 minutes means we're going to see some wild stuff here.
This is what you want on the TI main stage.
Day one, game one.
I mean, the tornado, if you guys keep seeing the tornado, it keeps hitting on the bear
and he just immediately comes back down.
It's because when you have the Shared and the lone druid, you can just use your roar and
then that brings him down instantly to spells him.
So that's why they're instantly trying to follow up.
I'm assuming he's instantly going to do it every single time.
So they're playing a little mini game here.
And yeah, that refresher Shared that we talked about, it is being held on Yadaro
right now.
So if you thought two bears were bad, what's about three bears?
Right.
I mean, you're not wrong.
I do think so much of this game is going to be, can they catch and kill BCM on Team Spirit,
and then likewise for Ironwing, can they bait out those DKBs?
They are getting into the area where it starts to look a little bit sketchy.
Also, since they've taken the Tier 2 Tower in that mid lane, Ironwing, you have some potential
and chances to try and turn this around and you know make a quick run down hit.
Yeah maybe get themselves the oposite at some point.
Bushwack hits on the bear.
Gibi is not the biggest force though, it'd be great, but once again the roar comes out and backs himself away.
And a scythe done for Ari.
So more ways to control these heroes.
One big relatively recent thought to the Pangolier is that we can no longer refresh BKVs.
You know I much heralded change across Dota 2
Pangalir obviously someone who struggles a lot versus DKB's especially because in the late game people would often go for refresher
DKB's versus this hero all the time
You just become immune to his constant rolling and stunning about here
but with his own refresher shirt sitting on the Pangalir now and
Building into a refresher. He's gonna have some ridiculous rolling feathers that after the first DKB there's nothing you can do
right, and you know there is gonna be that issue of
For Ironwing, there's a lot of like little poke that can force that out, you know.
You know how to bear coming in obviously as the 4-mencher moves in.
They're pointing to that.
They're going to instantly TP back home because the side of the T-Spirits is approaching with a T-Spawn.
Pornado's super annoying to deal with.
Goundro talks to DKB, just starts hitting the building.
Alright, we don't want to fight anymore.
We're going to start taking buildings there.
Brings it all the way down.
That's a problem.
That's not good free iron wing. Okay, but mentally, you know, yeah
Mentally, you're like look what they look what they have to do to match up afraid. They're so they're so scared
They're peeking being the bear and just trying to take our buildings guys. We got them on the ropes right now
They can't grow this leaf. I mean it has stalled out. It does depend on mentality a lot
You know, how are these teams gonna handle the pressure of TMI main stage?
You see a bear just running and take a full set of racks or just about
How do they respond to that? Are they going to feel like, oh, we have to fight now and then take a bad fight?
What's going to be the mentality shift? Is there going to be one?
Well, now his own MKB picked up here on Pure to match the butterfly that's on the lone druid, so
Now we can just shake hands and agree to sell both of those items and buy cooler stuff
Okay, I like that.
So you watch Yadar a one tap a mud goal.
Oh, yeah, the breakout of the Silver Edge. That's funny.
Dragon Scepter. Now, uh, now on the invoker and ready to be blessed.
It's just a little bit more. The creep wave is gonna die here in the mid. The conjurious catalyst.
And they find him when he heads out. Thinking about it. Steps forward. Team spirit.
He'll close to a couple of gears here. They're gonna break it, Laurel. Steps in.
Don't play connect on the 33. All right, the bear is coming. They know and on the white mod
He's just gonna hit the buildings
Do they have any way to do this or he's gonna get cares force out some reaction?
Oh, he happy to be already there the doom connects onto two separate heroes cannot get in with the same thing
You manage to get it out
So toss now in trouble collapsed walking in
He's gonna back away and now the Pango is gone. Laurel in trouble
Another one dead. I'll win one bear fight. Yeah
They're taking this fight perfectly collapse now also wanting to do something, but it's a teepee away from 33
Understood the assignment gets out before there's trouble and suddenly this lead is cut down to nothing. It's bad. It's real bad
Oh, man, it was a one-bear fight. They miss out on getting the kill onto the racks
Right yeah in the back line. They may as a catch onto the Pangalir the site is there from Ari
They don't use the cheese. They don't use the refresher. It wasn't their full power from Team Spirit
They can think of it like that, but if they were hoping to just steal away a racks and maybe lose a couple heroes
That ain't happening. They were ready to defend on the side of iron wing
I mean, it's it's a bold play and you can start to lose out a little bit more
Definitely as we can see this replay here
I mean that's a full HP bear look at them go to work on this thing. Oh, yeah through the BKB
This this stinks of desperation there. Oh, that's what you say is iron wing
I think if you honestly you're definitely not wrong it's it when the team stops wanting to fight it does raise some questions
What's happening?
And now they find these young folks the perfect fight if they can do it
Oh the bear is dead though broken and getting out of there not me
Not able to connect the tornado barely manages to find it
And now this win ranger another death and iron wing for the first time in this game are gonna take the gold advantage
Say the line, Lyrical.
No, I don't know.
Say the line.
No, no.
Two more slides.
Say it, Lyrical.
Oh, you're welcome to the late game.
Welcome to the late game.
It's Ironwing's late game.
They have got the eggs on the doom.
They have the eggs on the invoker.
They have waited for this.
All right?
They got some big heroes.
All right, they have analyzed the situation.
You know, 3-3, he plugged it into the computer in his brain and actually prints
out a big paper thing.
Just like the old PCs.
And he's like, we need the egg receptor on the doom.
that will solve our problems.
BGM, get, send the agonist.
Get the sun strikes.
The capitalism will bring us victory.
And here they are.
That's, this is, this is very scary territory.
They have delayed this game
as long as they needed to in 52 minutes in.
What are Iron Wing gonna decide to do now?
Are they gonna try and take the aggressive
front foot forward?
Now, Windranger is dead for 50 more seconds.
Buyback status, there's a couple heroes on radio
that don't have it.
Clap's playing without buyback for a while now.
Obviously does have the Cecilis Durage ready to go,
but Team Spirit, it feels like they need another, like,
mentality moving forward of how to deal with it.
The agonist scepter on the Doom is clutch.
Yep.
The problem is, they still only need one,
because of the bear.
Yeah.
That is a big fear that you still have to hold
in your heart desire.
And look at this!
They're right onto him right away!
If you're getting hit, he's brought somewhat low,
but they jump in with the Doom,
it's not gonna matter.
He's just down one time.
I bear down.
33, because he decided to go anymore.
Shards keeping 33 out of the fight.
He can't play again.
Sentries support Sam Boren.
Now they find that second cube,
and now they dare a bit too far.
Throw a pressure out from the pango.
Oh, that's the turn that they needed to get the control.
Pure in trouble, 33 in trouble.
Iron Wing, what else do you have left on the tank?
Easy M, you're gonna need every little bit.
He's out of here, he escapes.
Hits away for the moment, but still the chase is there.
Laurel finds him, cuts him down.
He's the last fair out here on Yawdor after the refresher.
And the slowdown on the BZM, he got him with the old Blowing Blink.
And BZM managed to get some separation.
Doesn't look like he's going to be able to escape.
But this lead, it's not insurmountable.
Ironwing have to be careful. They don't have buyback on their cats.
That is a little scary.
I mean, there is no Roche to deal with right now, obviously.
So that is a bit of an issue.
They can't just grab that and go high ground with it.
They want to try and force some buybacks out here
and see what's happening on Spirit.
If they're back in 50 seconds, they
can definitely go for a push here as Team Spirit.
See if that is indeed what they want to do.
What is your plan?
What's your pick, though?
How do you get this chill as Team Spirit?
I mean, I don't know.
Gatoro steps up.
They have the banner down.
They have it placed to you.
They have it on the tusk if they want to use it like is it a blank shackle from not me can you follow the role
They're going in the role on the BGM. I forced them back to just chill the buildings
That's right focusing the buildings where they can the bear takes down one
They didn't get the BKB though. There was no panic for BGM. They're gonna hold it
And the hex is already out from Ari the bear down
It's about three quarters HP saved by collapse the wheel of wonder already used you come out of the moment
Shackle not gonna latch, but mess it a little bit with BGM and now the BKB Yadro
hitting. Interest, they don't have to test for another little while here. Yadro hits, destroys,
and now it's gonna look to take down the Rainfrax as well. Can't quite get it,
but substantial damage dealt to Ironwing's base.
Talk to me Trent, what do you see him? I mean can't quite get the Rainfrax,
right? So they get forced back there. Happy to sack that bear. I think that's okay in
this moment just fine with that for now team spirit you just say that you know
that was good like we got those girls near our base kill the pure on the case
we move in we get we essentially get a win condition right we got the tier 3 now
we're just looking for megas that is the play here they get both shrines again
a late game snag here for the 56 minute there that's that's really nice for
team spirit but look what's happened on that worth chart right like it is the
alone drew it. It's three dire heroes. Yeah. And
Kent's finally getting over top of the undying and the
hangalier, which he's been behind pretty much the entire
game. Pierre has struggled to keep up. It is as you would
hope for pretty much dead even heading into 60 minutes.
In terms of who's got this one, a scouting cataclysm
erupts here out of Ironwing. They have a refresher
shark sitting on the doom. That could be just the
you need to imagine if he dooms
the pango like that could be
something to really catch them
off guard here. Look at this
though so the bear also in mid
while the smoke is happening is
wrapping around to go towards
the racks. Yeah because the
creeps at bottom yeah so he's
going to go for it. The doom
shows up there for just a
moment but they're immediately
going to go in for it. And
like this. Without even a
fight to be quite having up
no. A hundred and ninety
get megas and the bears back in 15 seconds they're going to find a better
solution than it's not me what are you doing what are you doing not me
beat man up on his first game on the international main stage the support
player comes in against the job a little smile for the job is sneaky oh
that's a painful one to give up here is ironing now the pressure is really on
I wonder if they're going to try and make a move while WinRanger's dead.
I don't know, it's just, I think that they've just got to keep holding out now.
Man, a sick play.
First time at TI, you love to see it, not me. He's having a hell of a tournament.
I mean, there was a question, right? He is the only player on this stage,
who this is their first TI by the way, now that you can tell after a move like that.
They see the bear for a moment.
hunting not quite able to get him and so it looks like they're going to probably
get to 60-minute items now iron wing. Hunting, finds a bear, jumps in, they've got the
axe already down, Laurel finding Kess. He's in him under control. They're so
costly to the BKDs, they don't want to pop them. They can do so much damage if they're
found by it. Collapse, links forward, sheva's guard out, the slow is there,
There. Yadro sending in the bear. The Doom is down. He has Refresher charge. If he needs to use it, PKB is finally pot.
The stun, the bash in the midst of it. Still has Refresher on Doom if he wants to go for the...
LARO! He got a pot right there from him. And look at this!
Oh, the snowball! Flipping him to shred. The snowball safe is going to be there.
He gets the blink out on LARO. RU though now is in a bit too far as well.
The PKB out. Ironwing. Surging forward. Now finding another kill.
They're keeping him with a couple of heroes as the tusk is gonna be on the top of them.
That's not where he wanted to be in now, the power shot, the slow down is there.
Oh, has to make a good decision, but they move forward under the bear.
Saved by the Toons, don't know.
They can't quite do the damage.
The zombies are chasing, they're running after them.
Yonro moving in, Sunstrike, it's onto this Wind Ranger who finally gets...
Finally, they break it and now got him caught, not me, they thought that they had him for the finish, but now PZM is in too far, and with Collapse running in, with y'all over there, they find them back, they get their man.
Three dead iron wing, they have buybacks and they're gonna need them.
They got creeps coming out of the mid lane, I mean it's mega creeps, they got creeps everywhere, Ari hits it too early, which way can he get out of this?
They're chasing, nullify, control, couple more hits, Ari in trouble and Ari dead.
They have buybacks again on everybody at this point in the game.
It's been used by the evoker, used by the doom, they're moving out of the base.
Keep in mind they do not have EKVs right now on Team Spirit, so this could be a big window for them if they can find the right fight.
Laurel ulti out. He's trying to buy a little bit of time for his bear to get out of there.
And Laurel going to retreat.
It looks like, well, they find the bear.
Okay, not bad. They're gonna find it.
And that actually is gonna be no bear for 30 more seconds if they can kill this one.
So Yadrall loses another one.
Man, the creeps, though.
Yes, they need to deal with this.
Yeah, they got some issues happening back at the base.
60-minute items.
We're up, we're ready. We're bobbling for collapse.
I think he actually ended up even taking there.
He went the movement speed and evasion and the mana, but yeah, first I'm getting a win
ranger Hex online in this tournament.
Iron Wing playing forward on the map managed to kill off Courier, which had very fast
rips in 61 minutes.
Yeah, sometimes you get a little bit of health.
as one more inventory. Love to see that. Okay. The big late game items that start coming out,
we see stacking of Aeon discs trying to add an additional layer of save. Save is something
they just don't have on Earth. You know they have the, I mean they have the Ring Masterbox,
it should be fair. He doesn't have the Agnus Semper yet for the second one.
That is their one big save that they're working with. But if you can add an Aeon disc,
having an additional layer helps a lot. Right. We also get the Minotaur horn for the Pango,
Oh, that's good.
Flaps, jumps up high ground, finds his man.
Ari dies just a little bit ago,
and with the meteor hit her up and looking Yadaro,
his eyes are on the buildings.
He's starting to hit the tier four towers.
This could be, this is actually a good place
for Ironwing though, but if they lose their base,
maybe it doesn't matter.
They're trying to TP back down, they realize
that they can't do it.
Oh no, the Panko's rolling.
They don't have the TP's that they need.
Through backdoor protection, he's handing the game.
Yadaro's had enough, the hex is there,
But there's no re-getting to this point as the bear gets pushed back.
He's in Detroit and then scared!
Team Spirit have had enough!
Woo! Well, is that what you'd like to start a game on the TI stage?
I think we can all agree, yes.
What a performance from Team Spirit.
They come in, get several kills before the horn, and manage to come away with that victory,
not me with a clutch performance in 33.
That one hurts.
What could have been?
I mean, you can feel it.
They were making the comeback, but that late game potential of the Bear, it's so interesting.
It's like the early game in Bear went so much better than usual than the struggling
mid game, but the late game tactics of the Bear were too much.
Unbelievable performance.
first game on the main stage.
It was over 60 minutes. It was
a backdoor. Loan to repair just
one little bear against the
world and he made it happen.
What a fantastic way to start
this series. This was
incredible. I hope that every
single TI game is as good as
this one. I feel like both
have played absolutely insane spirit, obviously, with their lead.
But also, Ironwing with being able to play the game despite the horrible start.
I don't know how, but 33 he came back from such a bad lane.
He was so farmed, and then, I don't know, this ending was just pure cinema.
It was. I think it could have been either team's win, Ray, until the very end.
I could have been, I was so impressed by Ironwings and how they held this game out.
I mean you can see the way they're playing the map is so beautiful with how they're stacking their triangle up so much to try and bring back that net worth deficit.
I mean the net worths are very very close to like most of the early game despite all the kills happening.
The way they were placing their wards on the map as well was so defensive they had wards all of the entrances to their jungles they had it in the mid lane.
They were covering everything to try and feed as little as they could. I think they punished everything perfectly.
They held this one out. Spirit played fantastic, of course, but Iron Wings have to be commended for how well they did in such a situation.
This game is a really good example of why Laning Phase just doesn't really feel like it mattered as much.
Like the early game, Iron Wings just lost their lanes, they lost the 7 minute wisdom shrines, but it just didn't really feel like it was a huge deal.
They were still able to farm because there's just so much camps on the maps to farm.
They slowly played, they were really patient, and they found the right openings, and they were able to really slowly
you know, allow this doom with the Midas as well, come back into the game.
And I also think it's 33, uh, choice of, of, uh, neutral.
And maybe some, we will have more to talk about that,
but he can just farm waves and stacks with this, with this ogre smash.
It's, it's very smart from him.
And it did so much.
And at this point already, we're like, okay, you know,
Ironwing, they waited long enough and now they are team that takes the lead.
But I think later on, obviously Ironwing did a great job of being in this position to begin with,
but this is when the fights are decided by just who fights the best.
It's the role. I think a couple of fights, Spirit of Bad fights because they were chasing
beyond the role. So they were able to identify the situation, which is if Laoh has no role,
he kills the target, they need to back, they need to play with the role. And you could see
In the later fights, they were able to understand that they were only playing with the role
We get one kill and then we back off and we reset and the moment they figured that out
That was when the team fight started to straight towards spirits
Spirit's favorite so kudos to them for being able to figure out what was the problem during the game
It was such a tense game and I don't feel like every single team would be able to figure that solution quickly
I think so either and I think when sir you already mentioned at the very start of the day this tusk
Speaking of roles. He had some brilliant ones as well
Yeah, in the early game, you could see the power of the Tuss, I'm sure we're going to
see some clips later on, but the hero gave Team Spirit the lead they were able to accrue
in the early game because Tuss is a hero that could do so much in the early game.
He's the only hero that was able to gank the mid lane at 4 minutes.
He killed VZM, he was able to just snowball the game, they were able to take the 7
minute wisdom shrines, and that set up Team Spirit in a very good position in the
first 10 minutes.
I think that's impressive because you know he was hunted.
He was hunted at times.
I will say it was nice to see the way he swung across the map because like usually sometimes you see the lone druids play just in those like two camps on the side of the map and then it becomes a bit predictable but I think he also still moved with his team as they moved on the map.
across the map because like usually sometimes you see the lone druids play just in those like
two camps on the side of the map and then it becomes a bit predictable but I think he
also still moved with his team as they moved on the map so he always had that layer between him.
Now very well played I think maybe if you want to contest him being the MVP which I don't
think a lot of people would but maybe collapse would be a close second. He played fantastic
Yeah, the Undying. You can't go wrong. I'm so happy that we finally had Offlane Undying and he cooked.
He was so good. He was left alone by a support because they played with Yatoro and he just won V2 this lane.
And I also love his build. I'll talk about it a bit more later. It's he's so smart and so good at the game.
It was a fantastic showing of team spirit and iron wing to be fair
A lot of people might be talking at the start of this game about how that would impact the rest of
The game that played out because the start of the game team spirit had a fantastic momentum going and to learn more about that
We're heading over to purge
Thank you. She reyes that early game moment was super super impactful for how the game went for laundry
to check this out before they even got across the map.
Team Spirit instantly moved to this spot to put a ward.
They hoped or anticipated that Ironwing would use the gate
to come through to get aggressive,
and they spotted the enemy smoke.
That's what led to that early fight
as they crossed the map.
They posted up on this cliff.
They didn't show up there.
So what they did and said is they sent the bear
around the left side to break the smoke.
That told them that their opponents were still here,
and this allowed them to get ready.
And they did this little juke move
with Tusk going like this to say,
oh no, it's just me by myself.
Nope, surprise, it's actually trapped for you instead,
so they killed three heroes, only losing one,
which gets them off to an amazing start here,
an instant band of elven skin here for the lone druid,
which is getting six damage and six attack speed,
and check this out, this part was really cool as well.
The camps are about to spawn, and for support,
it's super important that the radiant blocks this camp
and the dire blocks this camp,
so there's usually a little support battle
that goes on here, but Rue is gonna end up
blocking the camp and instantly ditching
to go start a gank here, or a kill on the doom,
which they're successful with.
So they basically get off to a great start here.
They kill Kludwig shortly after this,
and it just continues.
Two minutes into this game, he's got Powertreads.
He's got 35 attack speed and movement speed advantage
over his opponent.
And a short moment later, four minutes,
Doom is just zoned from the lane.
He can't be here anymore
because of how amazing this early game went
for the lone druid.
He even does this creep cutting thing here
where he thinks,
there's no way my opponents will come here.
It's so far out of their way.
They teleport both heroes
because they don't want him to get
any farm on this map at all.
and they run him down and they kill him.
Very, very tough early game for 3-3.
They even try to kill Lone Druid here a bit
with the wisdom shine spawn,
but they win this fight as well.
So take a look at this net worth advantage here.
Heroes are supposed to be about the same.
Look at this giant advantage that Yatora had.
He had basically the best early game
Lone Druid performance of the whole tournament
in this really carried them throughout the game.
Thank you very much, Perz.
That is insane to see.
And I love that little word.
You talked about the words already.
that little board at the very start of the game, Ray, I can only imagine that it comes
from them having studied Iron Rings, like, hey, sometimes they do this.
Yeah, I mean, we've seen lots of silly little plays from different teams where, like, you
know, sometimes they wrap so far around there, like, behind the tier two, looking for a fast
blood, and then, like, that was a really nice play to call out and keep a watch
forward with the wood.
So, yeah, I think this goes to show the amount of prep.
This is the gap as well that we've seen between the group stage and now the main
stage is, like, this kind of thing, this kind of edge against you.
does and it leads to big advantages in favor of Team Spirit. Now we had a couple of fights
after that that were very Spirit favorite. No surprise there with the lone druid being so far
ahead with the Toro there. Winter, you have one you'd want to highlight with that a little bit
later on the game in a 16. Yeah so it was like when I think it was Ironwing trying to attack
the safe lane tower of Team Spirit. They got the tower but they couldn't really escape you know
They lost a couple of heroes, Team Street Smoke from the river, they were able to kill three heroes.
I think this is the start of the game where I felt like why I favored Team Street because their heroes are much, much stronger in the pre-20 minutes fights.
It's very difficult to run into the role and the tombstone. You're not going to be able to take those fights.
As Ironwing, you can only just run every time you see the enemy coming in. That's why I didn't really like their overall setup.
I felt it was really greedy. They did a good job like holding the game together,
but I feel like they don't really have a lot of say in the game for the first 20-25 minutes.
They could only respawn, they did a good job, but I don't really like $10 like this.
I don't think anybody likes playing Dota against the lone druid either, so I think maybe that
one might be addressed, because I think maybe that would make their game, Iron Wings game,
a lot easier next time around. It is a hero that normally gets removed,
and I think Rhea, you have another one where the bear is the focal point.
Well, this was the nice thing. I wanted to highlight how Iron Wings were trying to play
around it, because there was a moment when Yatoro sends his bear top lane, as you can
see here, to try and push this in.
He goes a little bit too far, and whilst the bear lives here and gets away, which is a
criminal, by the way, the fact of the matter is, the bear is now low, and after this moment,
after he gets away, after TP's away, it is too low to join a fight, right?
And now mid lane, iron wings are going to take this fight engagement instead, and
this is now so good for them, because there is no bear here to follow up on
what Team Spirit can have, right?
You can, they get the Aegis, which is, you know, the massive power spike now removed.
They're going to go in, they're going to use their roll, but there's no bear!
There's no bear!
And as a result of them taking such a smart fight, and not losing heroes, you know, they
lose the ring mouse, right?
But they're going to peel off, they're going to move back, they're trying to get out.
And then, now they're going to choose to take a second engagement afterwards, and
now we'll re-go back in, now that they know there's no roll.
The bear's here, but it doesn't matter, because now Ironwings can come in, easy.
Easy I'm gonna do so much damage with his invoker like look at this combo. It kills the pango and the bear gets those skills
Gives them an advantage and this all happened because your toro over pushed with his bear because iron wings were able to split their heroes
appropriately to
Deal with that push and then take advantage of it on the mid lane. Yeah, it's crazy to watch this back
I think save her when you see I mean we see your toro play a game like this and there were a lot of bear shenanigans in this one
was that needed because he was he was back back stabbing and taking those
buildings a lot and a lot of people say yeah just go for an honest even fight and
that's the beauty of laundry you can feed your bears it doesn't even matter you
know obviously if the enemies fight you right after it's a little bit of a
problem but since you're not playing a real hero but you're playing this
Pauso hero of laundry where you basically your real hero is the bear
And if it dies, it's fine, you just resummon it.
It is not fun.
Yeah?
Profession to resummon it again.
Yes, and he got Octarin as well later on.
So that's even more bears.
As if you might be the Great King when you have Lundruth.
Exactly.
Let's focus our attention on the outplays here, Saber, because these two definitely were
also shining stars for both their teams.
I wanted to point out how amazing both of these guys itemized.
You could see on the Doom, he bought the Shiva, he had Axe or the Ethan.
and Octarin, so he just blinks in, he has a massive doom around him, it sadly didn't help
but this hero late game is an absolute menace once he gets to this point
and on the other side we have the Undying which I really love his build
he went Facebook into Octarin first item, you don't see that very often
but it just helps you farm, it reduces the cooldown on your innate which is the free respawn
so it goes from 6 minutes to 5 minutes and that's good
And then yeah, he just becomes really tanky. He got his strength planks. He has a better bigger AOE from Shiva as well
So he's just decaying left and right. He's farming super fast
This is how you play offline 90 cent gentleman. And this was as far as on dying goes
That was the overall first pick coming out
Do you think that this will be something that will be run back because this was a flex pick
But now collapse is proven. He's very capable of playing it on the outside
I sure hope so and I feel like these tournaments they have a tendency of like once you see a hero work in a certain position
Other people will copy it and it gives everybody else confidence. Oh, I see this undying
We can probably run it off lane if collapse can do it
I can also do it is what all the other offlaners are saying so I will expect more
More undying picks but also more undying's that will turn to be offline right in this series
I don't think that he she wants to play and I know yeah, I don't hear. Oh, he's not he's not an undying player
I think he'll stick to his guns and hope for like a better early game than than this game. No long roots
No, hopefully maybe that's very is that indeed Ray aware you would take this you would just say well
But I'm the laundry it go again. Yeah, I think the laundry was more of the problem
Or maybe just being more aware of like tusks ability to run you over because if you don't give it to him
It's not like he scales like that well into the late game
And I think yeah, they just kind of gave away too much like even then it was more on the mid games
And like you still have this but you can't just be reactive about like undying hundreds of fan backs then you're giving something else away
Drastic is very different or difficult, which is why oftentimes the coach comes into play
You know, yeah, the helicopter view and he'll know exactly where to take things as the players are once again ready to
take the stage for the second game of this best of three series. Luckily for us and for
everyone watching neither of these teams will get eliminated as this is still the upper
bracket. The first matchup these two teams are playing on the main stage and the first
series that not me is playing on any TI stage to begin with. And I think
I think he crushed it. I want to take a second to applaud his, I want to take a second to
applaud Nott Mies Windranger where the barracks were super low already. You know the bear
had already died so he couldn't finish it. We know it's Nott Mies first time in the
booths, in the international booths. And we, you know, we talked about it. We don't
think the pressure would get to him. We think he'll be fine with it. But I think
We saw it in action there winter being able to just go for that play go for that barracks
You know he gave his life for it gets the mega creeps
That's when you know that nerves are not an issue. Yeah, that's exactly what what would you do in the public?
Yeah, you just go die for it and that's great. You know seeing that from him
You know, he's playing like he's in a pub. He's relaxed
And that's great for for young player and I do want to go back to what Alex mentioned about like the support
Do I do feel like the past could be something that's really important
I do think that it's good on both sides where it allows them to play that game either on Ari or on
on rule on his house and I think this hero is going to be a very key here
It's not a very
imbalanced or like OP hero, but I think in this particular series comparing how both the teams are playing it could be a very critical hero
They could for sure as we are seeing if BGM can have maybe also more impact
He had a good invoker don't get me wrong
But if we compare the invoker and undying those are the first two picks for for both teams respectively
Overall first pick invoker does not leave rare any room for flexibility
And that might be a honeycap in this one potentially, but also it's it is sacrificial in a nice way
You're like say you're stating this is the hero. I'm gonna play this is I can do stuff with it
Yeah, right and you give more to your teammates. So really we should be blaming everyone
Because they got a later fix and they didn't win with it.
No, I feel like he cooked like BZM in Voker is something else.
I think that he is the only reason why they were able to stay in this game for so long.
Honestly, this ghost walk in dealing damage is a little bit busted.
He's just pushing every single wave in the fight that we saw when he threw the cripple meatball.
That is also not okay. How does it deal so much damage?
When you get your Chasen stone or Shiva, your AOE on all your spells becomes bigger.
However, it doesn't actually become bigger in reality, so you don't see how big the meteor is.
You're just getting meteorite and cooked from inside, and you don't even know where it's coming from.
We'll have to see if he gets his hands on that again then.
As we are very soon ready to get game number two underway.
I think game one both teams
They're not going to be too sad about how things went team spirit took it in the end
But iron will fought valiantly and they almost made it happen. Let's see what happens in the next one
iron wing
versus team
spirit game
The drafting time and we get to see what changes the teams have talked about in the break and
what changes the coaches feel like is necessary going into this next game as we are having
Ironwing on the radiant side, Team Spirit on the dire side so that swapped around.
We also swap our pick order, meaning it is Ironwing with first pick and Team Spirit with
overall last pick heroes to look out for on the bands are the Landruid from the previous
game and still the Earth Spirit as well as we will keep talking about that as long as
it's not bad because that is still a menace.
Other than that though, curious if that Undying gets addressed but it's Ironwing's
first pick so they get to dictate how it will go down Emberspeed or so Air Spirit still
banned out.
Emberspeed actually still in even though we can't see it banned out in the first phase
of the previous game.
We might see Spirit choose to ban the idea, I'm dying here if they feel like Ironman will
cause a problem with it.
But I honestly wouldn't be against an Invoker first pick again.
I mean they can take Centaur because they've really favored that throughout the tournament
but the Invoker was really good.
They actually did 86,000 damage last game.
They did the most in the game.
All right, all right.
And they already removed Slava.
So it probably means that the idea is there, you know?
For I mean, they want to open with the impoker.
Oh, okay. Well, I guess that's what Spirit were tossing up.
Sorry, BZM.
And a good man. I like it.
I'm convinced.
Yeah, you don't want to give BZM his invoker.
You kind of want to force them to play something else.
Oh, look at our boy in the crowd.
Mira has been spotted.
Ha, ha, ha.
Alright, Ironwing with the overall first pick, so do they want to steal that Undying?
Does Team Spirit even...
You know what?
You're coming in to this best of three, okay they don't want to steal the Undying, because
I was curious, like do you even want to do the same plan two times in a row or want
to just completely change it to keep the enemy team on their toes?
I think you can just run it back to be fair, especially when the hero is flexible,
So they could easily just play it 5, but I don't know when you decide to take it, White
Moon does have a super strong undying, I don't think they will play it off lane, but I don't
think you need to.
So in the group stages, I think I remember seeing Skrill utilize Death Buffer against
Undying Lane.
So do you think that's particularly the only reason why you would pick like that?
You want to range off lane against Undying, if you know Undying is on your lane.
You want at least one range hero, either it's the 4 that's just gonna keep hitting
the undying and keep you away from the offlaner or you can just have the offlaner be the wrench
hero such as the prophet who can heal herself with her spirit siphon.
And we got the Lina, very nice pick against undying, it's very high wrench, you can kill
the tombstone.
I am hoping it's going to be carry but they could play it mid as well but I think that
carry lina is a little bit better answer to undying as you don't really rely on
bursting someone.
You're just kind of dishing out tons and tons of damage.
I think another important thing to note, like last game we saw Team Spirit able to pick up every single Roshan
like kind of as soon as it was available for them, and you can do that with Undying
because you can place a tombstone like on the Roshan and it will hit the tomb and then it's just kind of free.
But when you do that multiple times, you get Roshan's Banner
and I feel like last game we saw that it was really difficult for Iron Wings to be able to actually destroy that Banner.
Lina is a hero that now if Iron Wings would have implemented that, take Roshawn's early
and have that banner off, like Lina can help deal with that too.
It's true, Lina is good heroes both with and against banners as well.
I'm interested to see if Centaur gets banned out.
It is a very nice hero both against and with Lina, against because you don't really
want to hit him because of his retaliate and with as he is able to save her with
his axe and also you're saying they should just pick it right now right away as soon as they exit this
ban phase cause Team Spirit. It is not as easy to play against Undying so I feel like Spirit might
be a little bit more wary and they might just pick like double sub here to to address the Undying
but I think for Ironwing they could easily just pick it after this ban and get their offline
they're going there or they have a support. So probably it's better for them to just ban
not to worry about it since it counters Lina so much yeah I've taken some time
to think about what they should be banning at this this point the center
surely will be part of the conversation super critical for the second
pig side when you ban and you pick the next hero here so it usually you see
teams take a lot of time at this phase but they opted to go for the quarter
so they are worried about this quarter unbinding lane yeah it's a strong
hero you can stack camps with it as we saw from the first game even though they were behind
they had a massive stack in their triangle that they farmed later on with the doom and the invoker
so you kind of avoid having to deal with it if you're not against coddle
and yeah it's just a strong hero nice pairing for bzm if he's gonna play some spirit
Clockwork coming out, looks like that would be our safe lane, it's a common thing.
It's probably gonna really discourage the Undying Offing, you don't want to be playing Undying Offing in this clock.
You do not, the mana burn is too annoying.
I think Spirit just decided to have a very solid safe lane to start off the draft.
You want something that protects the Lina.
It doesn't necessarily address, if they are too much on Clockwork they can easily pick that on Ironwing
iron wing but perhaps they want to get a little bit more exotic with it we'll see.
And another hook wink coming our way for Ari.
Yeah I think he played very solid last game there is no no need to to change it up too much
he had very solid performance on hook wink he can't really go wrong with this hero and it
pairs really nicely with undying you have like a teamfight guy and then you have a pick-off
guide that's just gonna you know set up kills and you have the stun.
That's an Ember Spirit coming out. I have a question. We have not got long
root banned and I know there is Black's potential on the Lina. Is this anything
we should be worried about for either team to be honest?
So I'm not sure about the how the matchup goes. Lina against Ember. I
imagine it's okay for Ember because you survive all the Lina
spells with your flamethrower so that would mean that Spirit does not want to
put Lena mid, they would need to put it carry, they can't pick the laundry.
However, Pure can still easily do it. I'm not sure if he wants to play it against
Lena but it's not bad. Once you get to the cell garage and you manage to
bring the bear on top of the Lena, she is in big big big trouble.
I'm imagining they have to like put the Lena on carry and just counter this
Ember right now here. Yeah probably feels more suitable. I don't think there's any
flex heroes remaining on the mid and the off lane. I guess if they want the
tango but tango is not really that great against Ember. Yeah against Ember you
have to decide to go one or two ways. One is you counter pick the Ember and
you try to just demolish him in lane and that kind of enables you to play
the game. Or the other since Ember is such a strong mid laner and teams
usually play through him, you want a hero that doesn't do the same thing because you will lose it.
Like, uh, we got the Underlord, that's a nice counterpick to Ember, you have like your root,
another hero that really counters Ember from the support is Willow, if like Willow is one of the
crazy strong heroes against Ember because you catch him in the root and with Terrorise,
you can always kill him in the early game. It kind of works with Underlord and Club too,
they can set up for your Bramble. It's nice bearing with Clockwork for sure.
I do think they have a very nice robust lineup on spirit right now as well with iron wings picks
I just see them now having a lot of killthrown on the map
I was honestly wondering if they might like to take
The dragon night because we've seen it come up more and more prevalence in the group stage
And I really liked it because a it's like you have so many
Heroes like spirits in the mid lane they just provide the extra bit of catch
But also it gives you a really nice way to just take the tower if they do want to rotate with runes
So you're not like as on top of that when you have underlaw off lane
You you like your mid laner that has a stun so that you can actually out the end if you have a mid laner
Which doesn't really initiate it doesn't feel very good playing underlaw in a game like this
And I think underlaw is the type of often maybe you can tell me if I'm wrong or an event by serious here
I thought you need a mid laner that pairs well with him
You can't just pick the underlaw for for just one thing the underlaw and just pick another mid hero
That doesn't really work with you. Yeah, you're totally right
I think for both of the global offlaners, which is underlord and dawn breaker
that want to connect globally with their ults, you want a mid laner that's a playmaker that's
going to like set up things on the map for you and then you're just like farming, pushing out lanes
and then eventually you connect with the gate. And we got the Lysilir counter pick, very nice against
Underlord. Very tough lane. Yeah, it could go both ways to be fair because you do have like
15-20 more damage on the Underlord than on the Lysilir so if you're really good at Lysilir
thing and you manage to utilize it pure, then it can go...
Is this the lane where you should get Ori as underdog?
I don't think so. I think you still keep the Firestorm. It's a very strong spell
and he's not going to want to rage every single Firestorm, so you can just
secure your range or range deny or like enemy range with the Firestorm.
He kind of needs to fall down with with the Leicester. It just gets
bad a little bit later on, like once he gets Phase Boots,
level five then I think under to just go jungle which is fine. I think this is fine
matchup for both teams. Team Spirit at least have a hook shot so that's one
BKB piercing stun that they have against the Life Stealer. I don't think they're too
sad or like too distraught about the Life Stealer pick.
It seems like Ironwing is keeping their options open or rather Spirit's options open. They ban out
out the morph lane so they remove another carry from the pool.
Yeah, it's a lifestealer counter.
And also against Undying, you steal the tombstone.
It's not fun.
So that's a very good learn actually.
Yeah, what else is good against Lifestealer and Undying?
Kind of feel like they need a mid hero for sure, right?
I don't think they want to have the Lina as mid.
Yeah.
He could play some Viper on Laurel, that's like a hero that absolutely smashes
Ember Spirit, but however it's not really a playmaker. We'll see which way they decide to go if they want to just dump the...
The thing that they have here is whether they want to counter lane or they want a hero that rounds up their whole lane.
Yeah, exactly. Or they could have a hero that does both, which probably doesn't feel like there is one right now.
Actually
It makes plays it's okay in the line. I do have the you know, it is Slark made
I saw that I didn't like it
Be a contrarian. I I when I watched that play out ember went basically even in net worth against the slark
It was just nope slark. Oh, yeah
Another carry banned by iron wing as well
They keep the flex potential open on the lina. It does seem like on the other side
we need an offlaner for ironwing any thoughts on what that offlaner needs to be able to do.
The doom that 33 played in the previous game is still in the pool.
Do they want a helm hero here?
To run the lina down like something that can like some like an entire hero. You could do lichen. Yeah, it's good against the clockwork
However, I think they need something that's a bit more active as the life stealer will just kind of be farming
The center is still in the pool. It is not the best against underword
However, as he has percentage damage for you and he also roots you so you don't really it's harder to stamp it out
Every time we reach this I always think of eight different heroes and they end up picking doom
Off-laters exist and they always pick doom, but it's comfort
We did see him having a like he was heavily focused in that previous game, right?
They they knew where he was gonna move they tried slow down and slow down his farm as much as they could
Yeah, I mean he had a great game lost game and he's probably gonna have a great game again
I do wonder how they're gonna I am mice because last game we saw 33 buying
Midas and going like devourer and
and I've seen lifestealers, you know, go between sometimes buying Midas themselves
and sometimes not, just going straight for the Radiance, so I don't want them to get too greedy
because Spirit just punish that.
And the Shadow Theme is the final pick for Team Spirit
and that means we are going to have the Mid-Lena on our hands
and Yatoro will play Shadow Theme.
Is that, um, because both teams are kind of considered turret heroes, as we call them,
they just stand they hold their ground they just hit is that is that a little bit too much of the
same things I don't I don't mind this big I think Lena plays in a way where you're just gonna get
your axe and you're gonna be flying around the map looking for pick offs and it is very nice like
both against life stealer and ember because you can just pick them off if you have enough
damage and if you're dark below with you um yeah I don't mind it I'm a little bit worried
about this Lina lane, I think he can get ganked by Hoodwing and undyne very easily and that
needs to be very rough. However, if Lara survives the laning phase, I think it's a very nice
Lina game.
Do you feel like they have like too greedy of a setup since they don't really have
a way to utilize the underlord ulti in the early stages? It wouldn't be so easy,
not impossible.
Yeah, it is. You don't necessarily have to do it. I think this underlord will
be utilized much more defensively, holding towers, getting some auras or lotus, and making
sure that these other two cores have a good game going.
That's right, what do you think will happen on this one?
It could be a little bit too greedy, but maybe underlucky get ag's rush going and then you
just control ember with the pit and make it so we can't sit on your backline turrets
and that would be nice.
That would be nice.
Are we going to a game three, Wint?
No.
Whoa.
I don't think so.
I think it's too strong.
I think, I mean there's a chance but I feel like a spirit early game, like even though I feel like they're a bit greedy but they should be able to secure the runes, it's going to come down to the runes and they have the best supply at the runes, clockwork.
But I've been told that Lina vs Ember is not necessarily swaying in the way of Lina.
That is what I've said. And I stand by it. I think it's going to be fine for Ironwing, that is. I think they have much better mid-length setup.
It just depends on how hard they cook, if they manage to push it to the limit and kill
Laro.
Okay, that seems like a lot of pressure on that mid lane.
I will also remind you guys that those first 10 minutes of the previous game didn't really
mean as much as it later we got, but we're going to pay attention to how Ember vs Lita
is going to play itself out.
But before we get to see that, we are going to check if it's locked.
He's found Maposhka.
Thank you so much, Eber.
Yes, we are here with Maposhka.
So good to see you here on the TI grand stage again.
How are you feeling being back here once more?
I feel great.
No, I didn't like the crown and I feel like I'm kind of excited when I'm not playing.
So I really enjoyed.
Oh, absolutely.
Fantastic.
Well, I did want to ask you a little bit about not me.
Now Team Spirit obviously does amazing in front of a crowd.
You guys get a lot of energy.
That was his first game.
It was pretty good seeing the Windranger steal that last racks.
How's he doing in there? Is his mental good?
Is he like the rest of the team or a little nervous?
How's the man there?
Kielin?
I would say that he still improved with every game.
And he's not stable as a new player on tier one stream.
But I guess he's very fast and everyone helps him with that.
So we believe in him and we're just trying to let him do what he wants to do.
Always. Maybe sometimes I have too much.
Great. Well, definitely seems to be working.
All right, I'm going to ask you one quick question.
Any chance for a game three?
I think yes.
Yes. There might be a game three.
All right, let's find out as we throw to our casters
for this incredible game two.
Thank you so much, Slack.
Apparently there might be a game three.
We'll have to see what indeed does happen
as we're out to that one.
But I was supposed to say that.
Like, did we win? What happened there?
But yeah, I did manage to find that victory and love to hear also about Nami and how he's sort of dealing with there saying, you know
Maybe not as stable
But it's trying to make sure that he feels as comfortable as possible doing way needs to do it
It's good to go into something like this with maybe a little bit of a dread one. Yeah. Yeah
He's fired up as he said, you know, he feels a little nervous a little excited being here with the crowd because they are cheering for
Like crazy
Rue attempted to get them going even more with the Chinese Dota baby line
So he's really trying to sway at the whole crowd
You know the other thing and this was something that's always stood out to be about Dota, right?
If you look at other forms of, you know, ball sports or whatever that are out there in the world
You start playing at a young age, you got your parents on the sideline, right? Yeah, and then you're like in middle school
Maybe there's people doing a TV wait!
First blood, wipe-on-frozen
And then as you just keep going up the levels you get more and more used to a crowd
But for let many of these players, it's the very first time that they're playing in some of the biggest tournaments of the world and
Suddenly they're surrounded by people. It's it's a lot to deal with in a way that many other people haven't yeah
Usually the only loud like large crowd they're used to is their avoidance list, you know
That's the biggest group of people have ever seen in their lives. They're not
See how they're able to do in this one
When Ari gets chased down, brought down by Ruzo,
one kill at a time as they reopen up that camp,
33 will manage to get the pull over in front of his tower,
though, most likely.
As collapse gets chased down by Light,
on drops a pick to drag the creeps back for a moment
and then is gonna get back to base.
Yeah, so all the way home to his resource situation
right now.
And this is just the life versus undying, right?
But, you know, you work with not me as well.
They're gonna keep dragging waves,
trying to reduce the speed that they're moving at here.
So hopefully, perhaps we'll get back there in time
to get some of this XP and gold.
Annoying, he did manage to connect those waves
before he pulled it around the side.
So, yeah, that's gonna be a little bit tough.
I think Pure is gonna be off to a hot start
in that bottom lane is what it looks like so far at least.
Yeah, a couple of denies there already.
Well, you know, at least it's going better
for Arnway in the last game
because Yadar doesn't have a chilling spree
at this point in the game.
Nobody smoke, they did not smoke out to try and take a fight, that is for sure.
Okay, little reset option here.
That's rude.
They decide to turn now, on the honorobot, the Colts push back by in some time.
Wink goes for the second salvo, would not be right there.
We missed on that raise, no need to get a little bit of separation for 33 turns.
It's, gets the kill.
Now they're still on the white mod here, and, wow, the hoodwink.
Comes in, and is just to finish that one off.
Yeah, but I saw it coming, but couldn't get the distance in time by juicing up to the north there and such early rotations into the enemy safe lane there.
Like, White Maw comes through the twin gate, TP immediately from Ru, er, from Nautnysauri, so they, they know that, they know this is coming, or at least they're very prepared to have these TPs up in the, I'm ready to try and engage, so.
Losing their SF, unfortunate their team spirit.
Flaps finds a few more last hits here, but obviously still struggling more than any of their core.
Yeah, it's not going to be a good time. I mean, Life Stealer is already annoying and obviously undying.
This is what you do to a good hero almost every time.
Does manage to pull this wave all the way back through his tower though, and that's going to force White one away.
And in the mid lane, see how that one goes, is there's a big hole 33 not wanting to lane like normal.
This is such an interesting mid matchup, you know, you heard Saber-Lite talking on the panel this idea of like, does Lena really win that card?
And I would say that out of all the mids in this tournament, Laryl and BZM tend to be the ones that don't really push their advantage that card into lane.
It's not often I watch a lane and be like, oh, they're dominating the lane.
I feel like they're both kind of geek it out mid laners, get to some farm and then make plays with their team.
So I want to see if LaRoc can actually take advantage of this matchup.
Can he find the edge?
It may or may not be there.
Wow.
Laps goes down, but yeah, that's going to be something to watch for.
And already you can see 31 and 9.
Definitely a better time over this Ember.
The creeps are dying right now as he's back home regen-ing.
Yeah.
And he has a TB to the Tier 2.
He's scared.
That's not where you want to be.
No, he's just right here.
And pulls him up to the Hydra for a moment.
Still managed to get a hit off as they're trying to just continue to mess with Ari here
not me
Is still chasing him and I guess yeah with the rambles out and
Already finding couple more hits does he go for the courier snipe? He decides to teepee away instead. That's not gonna work, sir
My couple couple options there and 33 rocked out again team spirit this early game what?
What?
What happened there?
He got caught by the Cogs from the wrap- Oh, because he was pulling the creep wave, because
Rue was camping mid for the longest time waiting for VZM to get back.
But then he hits a flare to help with the gank onto the hoodwink, and then he walks
up the river to catch Cogs on the dew.
I thought he was wasting his time.
These supports are doing a really good job.
VZM will manage to get that illusion room and needs it playing on December.
Collapse.
Oh, it's just out of range.
Oh, that's annoying.
annoying. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is a iron wing is doing this every single game. You guys
watch the replays. Whitemon will run up here every single game and block this camp. He's
a radiant or he's dying. Yeah, likewise in the side, you're seeing a block over there
too. This is certainly the meta right now. Every game, especially heading into the
seven minute wisdom room. Even dropping down another century there. It feels like
They're trying to maybe get set up to test that wisdom again
There are many heroes over on the left hand side of the map not need to get to move over doesn't really look good for spirit here
I think not me just gonna get forced out. Well, okay, Rue's coming. Yeah, they're bringing people finds Ari
Goes for the cogs a little bit of a mis lines that one up pushes it into another bramble BZM kills collapse in the meantime
But Ari will die and now they're gonna give this to y'all
What for a triple raise immediately down and then some extra gold. Why not oh?
That is not the way they thought it was gonna go
Yeah, I mean they they saw this coming right, but I think they had the reed much like I did that
It kind of they were gonna back it off
Well in the meantime, they did manage to take the other
Shrine of wisdom with pure. Yeah, so all is not lost for iron wing there
But they did lose their tier 1 tower mid
It's so active on the team spirit support so far. I mean immediately like look what
rules like he is still just in their ancients right now. If he's supposed to be helping
the shadow team have a good lane. I mean why is Yotaro atop that work right now?
This clockwork hasn't been there. Doesn't need to be. Is this the doom issue? The freedom
of the doom lane? I mean yeah and pulling other supports around other parts of the map
And now moving in mid, look at this wraparound.
And BZM is going to back away, and unfortunately, not able to get anything done there.
Mid-Disturbed picked up the Roof.
But yeah, hard to make any type of real kill happen on the BZM at this stage.
Ari, spots collapse right on there too.
Now Roof.
And as he gets the Roof, push him back.
Laguna Blades, does he get rooted again?
That is not an easy kill to make happen.
Very well done.
I mean, you're trying to abuse your mobility that's really in the game, assuming,
ah, they can't get me.
You know, that's a likely ember right now, but, got indeed.
And they dropped down a tombstone, not me.
Gilled up a lot.
But still, as they chase underneath the tower,
it will be enough to take down that dark willow.
You're looking towards that radiance while collapse
He's going to be upset that his camp has been locked out.
Weighted dice as well as he picked up a Yadaro.
He's got one goal this game.
Yeah, a gendall.
And Lifestealer is going to be a bit of a weird match up there.
There's definitely some stuff that you can do to get an infested him
in like the super late game.
Can't be very annoying.
And we've seen Shadow Fiends at times be somewhat frail
if they're able to, you know, get jumped upon.
If you worry without a hard save on Team Spirit's line
and how that's going to go for them in the middle of the lake.
That's true. We've also been having a lot of like pretty hard jumps
versus the Lina's and the Shadow Team's and particularly Earth Spirit.
This game, it's not too crazy, you know?
Like, the Ember gets in, but he doesn't necessarily have the sustained damage
to take down one of those two larger core heroes.
He's a little bit stronger at picking off the supports.
So I'll be curious to see how they link that up.
Like, maybe we'll see a lot of infest bombs.
Maybe we're going to wait for Hari to get a hit first on the bushfire.
has built a fort and a camp in this tree line.
And he's coming out once more.
Gonna find things we have.
Get some snow down there.
But as we're getting close to the 10 minute mark,
it's gonna be a battle for the runes.
And Laurel gifted an amplified damage.
That's pretty nice.
They've already gotten the mid tier one.
They could maybe use that to pressure
one of the side tier ones, perhaps?
Yeah.
I mean, it's worth saying, again,
a lot of the early success of Team Spirit in this game
has come at the expense of collapse.
Like, collapse had a really good game last time,
He is not feeling good right now. This is a very poor off laner
But they do have a boot to travel Lena and he has the gate
So the way back into this game is going to be kills
Yes, or just even joining it on tower push is gonna be nice
It also means that you have to be cautious about any aggressive moves you want to make on the set of iron wing
Like Ari's obviously getting pretty hungry, right?
Like he wants to set up plays or BGMs that get something going but he he's aware that every single time
He's being both a Lena TP and the gate
time 33 continuing to just farm up for himself and work towards that Midas again
can also opt to go the blink dagger route first if you feel so fine
but yeah Laurel, farming out, taking some hits, flaps, trying to dodge away from here and Whitehall
but they hook shot in and they find him
33 caught, Yadarov, a couple more hits is what he's gonna need
Rue's still there with the chase down and has to give it up.
You are Laguna Blade.
Drop down bottom, good damage on the White Maw, he's hit, but the infested
King of the Life turns to Kay, still surviving.
Hit him Alice Downs, who's still also out.
In the end, it's enough for the finish.
Okay, it kind of guarantees they can't instantly chase after Pure, I suppose,
but it's likely going to get away with that one anyway.
Rue once more, just refusing to believe
that he's on the diet of this game will find a very late D-ward on that observer here from not me
and TP out success does leave space here for a stack for Ari though.
Oh wait, we did miss the ancients unfortunately. But yeah that's going to be something to watch
for because obviously now he knows that that stack is built up there. You got a haste for an
unlawful, you've got this underlord for early aggression. If they ever get an inkling that
that people are heading over to clear up that stack,
they can maybe think about a contest.
Yeah, Yadar really likes playing in there,
and he's on big A and we all see with the Requiem.
That could definitely be the hero,
you can keep flaring it as well from Rue,
one hook shot in, and even if the flare's
just hitting you, as Ironman, you're gonna have to decide
is this worth going for right now.
Like how much vision do we have
on the other heroes in this game at the moment?
And it's not a necessary move for Team Spirit,
you don't need to like shut down those stacks,
but if you could come down.
I mean, they're pinging it.
Yeah, so this is the plan.
Alright, they're bringing numbers.
I think Ironwing understand what's going on.
Pushback kills Ori though!
It happened so quickly!
Now, these EMTPs to try and make some type of a fight happen.
So Rule is gonna die.
Pretty heavy committal for that.
Yeah, they forced the Ember to rotate over here.
Lena was keeping an eye on it, thinking about rotating in for that though.
So if they had of like, let's say they killed a tomb, like they immediately would have ran
in there and started farming up like two camps that are there, so I think it's a good decision
because it also gains ironing these camps by winning that fight, even if it feels like
you're over committing with the heroes.
Right.
Lena, drops the Luguna Blade, not able to do any more than here, they're going
to lose the bottom tower on Ironwing, but do, like he said, get those camps.
Stabilize this game up a little bit here, it's a pretty big lead starting to build
onto the shadow theme.
And obviously, we're going to get a radiant finish up pretty soon,
and they'll start to speed up.
But the full commitment comes out with a tombstone
and everything to lock these down for Ironwing.
And Larl is closing in on Akaya,
giving himself a little bit more damage here.
And that's going to be a completed Midas also,
at just about 14 minutes for 33.
Rue does come over.
Not going to try and make a big move for the Trine,
though.
And so, yeah, I mean, again, thinking through how that last game went,
we remember Ironwing being able to pull it back into their favor.
The sort of counterpoint is that there's no invoker in this game,
but also there's no lane-bullet.
How do you see the differences in this game, too, working themselves out?
Do you feel like Ironwing are still going to be very comfortable going into that late game?
Or how comfortable are you in both of these teams?
I think if you break down the last game, we see that that lead for Spirit probably should have grown more from the 10 to 25 minute mark.
I feel like it stalling out at 4 to 5k was a bit of a liability for them.
The only reason they basically cheese out the win is the lone druid.
And right now, Rue and a bit of trouble.
I would worry that without that super solid late game potential of the lone druid, like they, I mean they had lost control of that game.
Let's be clear, you know.
Like they had to just beat the buildings down, which of course is a win condition you think of when you draft a pair.
but it's not exactly the ideal one, and so I think making sure that that doesn't happen again
for Team Spirit is pretty key here. So my idea would be trying to secure the really important
objectives and trying to take away some space from Iron Man, because I feel like that's something
they consistently like stopped doing, even when they headed to the leader.
Yeah, 2,000 Goldly doesn't mean a ton at this point in the game at all, and in fact,
Pure is going to run into several of them as Rue makes the new round, not me,
or even when the hooks are here to the side,
they find them, they catch them,
and they kill the hoodwink.
Collapse gets involved.
Yeah, he needs it.
He is going to be a serious threat when he gets to the agatom scepter eventually though.
We've seen it time and time again and Underlord can be behind,
but when you're flying this hero like the Ember Spirit,
it's just that one route,
and it can really cause problems for you.
Seven to six,
and
Slowed down game is definitely what feels pretty good for Ironling right now.
A shield room for Laurel, hook shot in.
Just standing there, okay, was there two fight managed to get him with a push on the clogs
and Laurel gives up on the fight, so I do not want to be up there trying to make something happen.
33, something collapsed, but hit him Alice down.
It's way for only a moment though.
Now with the sharp shooter and the doom drops,
A lot of hate had his way, could not get the deny.
Look at that, though. A little bit of a double tap, and that's Into the Blank Tagger.
Might as blink 16 minutes.
Okay.
There it is, 3-3.
Yard.
Off to do this.
Here, do they have follow-up?
Follow-up is there!
The damage!
Yes!
Nice.
Oh, just a terrorize coming from where he didn't expect it, and now a Tier 1 tower
gets taken.
Massive stuff here for Armoring, or for, uh, Spirits.
You imagine Armoring is just trying to get that, uh, Armoring to finish up
lifestealer and then maybe make a play with PCM. Join up together, infest ballman on top of these
squishier ranged hordes of the Shadowfiend or the Lena, but now you go down that's going to slow
down your lifestealer. You're going to have a haggen in the creation for a while. What's
he's flying back? It's more and more difficult. Double roots? I guess?
Where are they coming from, Lyrical? Why are the dire supports coming from the
radiant angle every time? They're surrounded and they find the cogs break of the TV for
wife on Team Spirit. These supports are just owning it's
crazy. I grew. It has spent more time on the rating side map
than the guys. Very impressive stuff. Here are a few more
hits and show and right now, Gautaro is definitely the
stronger carry. Four thousand gold up on him. A monstrous
series. I feel like this is the no Satanic's not the
the only one that can do this moment I mean if you're on the side of iron ring
right now you gotta think of a plan in this life so you gotta get involved
make something happen together trying to find a good zoo are he's running on the
outer oh god just triple the cops catches BZM to the rude it's so much
right there he has four cogs in a row yeah pure's like trying to test
things out as well versus the Shadowfiend and just getting absolutely
infligerated. That's to just turn into the dragon it went so poorly.
All right well those colored shots are much in room. Forced to hook shots to get away.
Give it up five no! EZM enough with the spirit vessel to bring them down there.
No charges though.
That's a little...
That's about that. I mean if I was an EZM every time I get pretty good now I'd just be a
little bit terrified. Will Kajaway from the Terrorize does get hit by the
stun but then gets out of trouble. Alright, very much back. Two kills here on those dire supports
and this is certainly a very vulnerable part of the game right now for BZM. He really wants to
get into that BKB so he doesn't worry about the double triple roots that are going to be coming
out once you have this agonist scepter finished up on the underlord. Meanwhile, Cure has been
doing some farming up top as the ancient black dragon to give himself an extra layer of protection
and has now finished up his armor.
So, be prepared for some impest plays.
We got four points in the Tombstone right now for Whitemon.
So if you want to try and fight Arnhling at an objective,
it is going to be a little bit tough,
but we do have that Lena.
We do have a Shadow Queen.
We definitely got some Tombstone hitters.
Does almost have the Agadon Scepter completed on the Lena now,
and the wraparound is coming.
Oh, they're going to run in a T-Spirke.
Yeah, they will.
They're going to see him right through and find him immediately.
What more could you ask for?
The Doom is already out.
They're going to drop the ulti coming in from behind the turret and he-
Wait a minute, Yonro's still strong!
He's still so strong, he finds two more kills before he dies!
Oh, R.H. is barely surviving from that actually, and Laurel comes in for the cleanup.
It's just, you can't even on the numbers game because of this mobility.
I mean, that one wasn't even CPS from the leaner, that was just anticipation and good coordination on the map together.
Yeah, congratulations, you found me.
Really did.
Shadow Peans. He's doing a lot. That's really scary. I mean, if he gets to the point where
Doom is not... I mean, it might still kill him, but he's just a glass cannon.
Yeah, the propane Doom isn't his biggest concern, eh?
Well, Magnum Scepter is being delivered for collapse. More avenues to get into
the fight and to disrupt it. These little tiny things that come in and start messing with
Ember. Very annoying to play against, especially as we've seen when we have to follow up Hookshot
or LSA or these other disables that have just really made it tough for BZM to play.
So the waves on the side lanes are in a really bad spot right now. They're getting the
push out of this iron wing but they really need to, I think at a torment or honestly,
I feel like a shard on the hood link or the undying will both be absolutely massive
right now but every time they try pushing waves up past the river this happens look
at this finds them pure tries to get out of the cogs and then it just just barely
gets in separation but four staff forward Yadaro destroys pure and not me think
about chasing this one if they want white on hits the three hero decay you
more punches are coming in fast and furious takes down the zombie man they
Go back and clean up the tomb set they want or they can keep going!
They find 33 also!
The agonist sector from the Underlord Instinct kill provided to their team.
Nami was holding the terrorized enemy entire time.
So if anyone else decided to join that engagement, they're just gonna get feared away.
Right, they have bigger circles than them right now and they're showing them.
Big, huge circles and now they're wanting to stick to their zone known as the Roach bit.
They're going to get that Aegis, and two, you know, maybe some of Squishy Hero's
occasionally of the Shadowfiend and Alina.
You're not going to feel very Squishy.
We're already at the Pyke-Manta now for the Shadowfiend.
We already have the Flame Pork for the Alina, giving her a lot of magical assistance
against a pretty magic-heavy lineup.
Yeah, team spirit.
I am looking good.
They will find at this point collapsed, but we're still all the way in for the commit.
They didn't want to end up dying.
So they keep the underlord alive and already oh and it's just get hooked shot across the river walks it back in why not
That's gonna be the hi at yasha now done for Laurel
Maybe another five zero and five
maybe another
Thinking about it. He gets rude in he gets fear at the dam to down look at them easy up
Okay, they turn that back around and now maybe have an opportunity to jump on the Laurel the 33 you get stunned
he gets killed! He doesn't get a doomoth, like there's no chance to fight here!
Team spirit, they showed up in more numbers, and BZM is gonna keep back Yotaro from finding a kill on the pure.
And the only good news is that BZM survives, and he's like a hundred gold away from his BP.
So these Yule setups are just gonna be free from not me anymore, but it's just been
so devastating from the time playing this game, and right after the first round,
he's gonna get his 4-metre. It's gonna go to Rue, so I mean,
We already need some fantastic hook shots.
It can be very difficult versus the, I'm dying.
You know, the fights are very blobby and whatnot.
So getting extra angles is very good.
Well, I think some of it too,
that's just a little surprising to me is that
this team spirit lineup has consistently been
on the front foot.
It's rubin' up the front, I'm like.
Oh no, yeah, they got him.
They got him.
Oh, geez.
But like, you've got Hood Week, you've got Ember,
you've got these heroes that wanna jump
and find that first target and set things up.
It feels like they've never started a fight almost.
Yeah, both games, truly.
Like, they have been put on the back foot in both of these games,
and their ability to move on the map has just been very, very minimal.
It's such a similar story to last game, where the Dire, like Team Spirit,
are just quickly deciding, we are crossing the river.
We are fighting for these zones.
And they're just not able to do the same.
Like, it feels like they're always just trying to push them back,
let alone gain any territory as Iron Man.
Spirit certainly rising to the pressure of the moment.
If we're waiting, might it be KB guys, then we can strike back?
There you go.
I mean, they're waiting.
It's there.
I mean, we got there, right?
Like, they lost that last fight while he was still waiting for ZKB.
Now he has it.
Now it is time to strike back, as BZM said.
And that, you know, that strike back, I imagine it involves Cure, infested inside.
Uh, it probably means we have to hit some glorious bushwhack here from Ari.
It's important though, right? Because it speaks to this issue that if Ironwing were waiting for this key item,
and then are going to start making these moves, if this doesn't work, it's really scary,
but it also should look better than it's looked throughout the last 20 minutes or so.
Yeah, they're also very close to BKB now on the DOOM, just 350 gold base,
so 3-2's trying to rush that, he's got a minus pull-back from there in a second.
I don't know if you really want to give up this tier 2.
Without any sort of a fight, I mean it's just three heroes pushing. They gave up so many towers like this last game
Yeah, they're just a bear will they give it up to just a solo shadow team here?
You know, they know yeah, he's probably got some backup there and indeed he does
But they just they just know they can't fight it there
You know this kind of comes back this idea of them playing like the machine
They really like to have their specific items. They have a plan. They like to make an idea and stick to it
So they're gonna wait for the BKB. It's flying out on the courier now to three three
What can they get done? Can they kill this human? Can they blink doomer? Can they bush
lacquer? Laurel? The camps aren't there, that might save his life.
Oh. Or does he stick around for this? I mean, he's sitting on this ward, they know where he's
going. Oh, Rue's intercepting now. I mean, look at this. Yeah. They're waiting for the
perfect fight. What do you think that's circle? Absolute perfect fight. What do you think
that's circle on the map from BGM means? A giant squiggle all over the map. I don't know.
I'm not sure.
Play there. It didn't look like a happy squiggle.
Laro shows on this wave again.
Rue is up front and center though.
The bodyguard keeping him alive.
Yadaro steps forward, finds Whitemon.
A couple quick hits is all that they're going to need.
Oh, they do?
So they move in, they take him out,
and wait a minute, pure.
Oxygen Rage trying to run, but no!
The hook shot's there!
Rue's got him stunned for now!
This cannot afford to happen. You'll accept your lift if they gotta save. They gotta save. They gotta keep alive. The stun is there for a moment, but no pure.
It's brought down. Team Spirit grow letless with their chase. Collapse runs forward. They can't hit the frangles. They don't need to hit the frangles. They take down the Undyne.
I'm almost trying to get close up for an infest safe because he doesn't have the troops on charge yet
But he can't quite get there and that ends up costing him his life as well
Little savior buddy syndrome and action here on the TI stage. What are they waiting for now?
We got to find a new item to wait for huh?
Apparently I mean, I don't know. It's tough a 12k gold lead right now
team spirit
this squad that
Come in and look incredible on the main stage is doing it again. Last game was a very like, you know with a tough
33 TV's out
Items out there, but that's the DKB used
In the first game they had this toss and they were instantly making plays right like us like we saw with y'all
They're on the loan journey
He doesn't have to wait for anything and this game. It was a little slower to start but the second that Rue got into the
So, Chot, it's been ridiculous.
Like, he is just the ideal clockwork
that you want on your team.
And the same thing with NotMe,
in the way that he's playing aggressively too.
We've known that, you know, obviously he collapse
unbelievably powerful talents,
but to see it also out of the supports
is really impressive.
Okay, Ironwing, they gotta get back into this one now.
They're just, if they would have gone up right then,
They would have run into Alina, unfortunately, they won't see her there.
Now, she's showing on wave.
It's just it's not quite coming together there for Ironwing.
Spirit a step ahead of them.
When it doesn't connect,
it feels quite bad sitting on these BKBs.
Yeah, in this game, this gold lead that we talked about has not just been,
you know, flat, it has been up and up and up just constantly growing
for Team Spirit because of the way they're playing aggressively with these supports, because
they have the global teleportation of the Underlord and the Lena. They're just always
opening up these opportunities. And I think we should also mention that Kiyotaro has played
very aggressive this game. Yes. Like he is constantly on the other side. He's not
just doing backwards farming into their camps because what's better than farming
your own camps? Farming the enemy camps. All right. That's exactly right. I mean,
they saw all of these heroes walk through here underneath a ward placed down by Rue.
A hex is now done for me not.
Man, if they catch Rue with that, I mean,
or even just BZM obviously, like,
it means that once he sees that hex,
he can't allow himself to ever just get hit by a single,
like, Rue, or any sort of a, a cursed crown after,
like, he can't play that little greediness with his BKB.
He just can't have to let it rip.
Yeah, 100%.
Roche, now, 25 seconds.
But you can see the danger that's coming there.
I mean, again, you look at this, Laura actually doesn't even have the BKB.
He's gone all out aggro.
So there is an opening there, but we just haven't seen Ironwing be able to find him in these
fights at all.
No, no, he is big chilling right now.
Six-year-old seven.
No concerns for his KDA in this one.
So it is going to be a minute and 35 seconds is now the Roche timer.
I mean, blink daggers for what, you know?
I mean, blink on RE, blink on 3-3,
not able to play aggressively with them at all.
They are now, you know, across the river,
they're sitting up here together,
they got pure on the wave.
If there was ever a chance it's now,
Yachter are walking in invisible.
Do they have any way to spot this?
Dumps inside, hurry out.
Now they see him, the pit is down.
Trying to chase some of these heroes.
Do they understand that 33 has the lights to inside him?
Follow up, hit his out, hookshot, off the mark.
Meanwhile though, he's able to get the Doom back out of the Lotus Orb reaction.
Yadar all thinking about a chase.
They cannot catch onto 33, but Doom managed to kill the hoodwing.
Meanwhile, they just have BGM down bottom.
Like, there was no chance to actually want it to engage there.
Maybe they're just happy to get a move from Seasphere.
Right.
They've got this gem on BGM.
And, you know, maybe hoping that Yadar will go a bit too far,
As you pointed out, there's no BKB on Molina. There's no BKB on the Shadow Fiend.
Rochana is back up in 30 seconds.
This does have all the makings for a possible fight win here from Ironling,
but it's going to be a fight where there's some sort of an infest save.
You need to min-max every single thing in this engagement if you want to get this win.
The two-sum save would be incredible if they could get it ready,
but it's still a couple hundred gold away here for White Mawn.
He's only at 800, so...
EZM, they break the smoke and blink away.
Oh, the truce only has dropped.
Pure under room.
Does he have any way out of their four staff down to the low ground?
Is there anybody that can chase him?
EZM is there.
So they get the kill onto the clock.
They got a proc on not me, as they know he's around.
Yeah, Laurel shows up on me in very deep right here.
That was an interesting choice.
So they manage to get two support kills as Roche responds.
If you have an opportunity, the MKV comes out, you know, there's a try to beat it.
And they actually seized this right now, though, like, do they feel it's that desperate?
The problem is, it is a top rose right now.
Yeah.
I feel like if it was bottom right now, maybe they were just in to go.
The best thing they got hoped for is a bit of pressure on this tier two bottom,
but classic Ember lineup and hitting a tower, it's a bad time.
I mean, he needs friends to do it.
As much as this is, like, you know, 13k gold, the team spirit looking good,
I don't think that the iron wing are out of this by instructions the imagination and considering how
Patient they were last game. I wonder if they just feel confident going to the late game no matter what
Part of those that stuff like this like route just TP's back to this out
Yeah, that's my name and there's the cost and the find and the kill. Yeah, that can't feel good easy
I'm caught and now they got the squirrel to
So he goes down kill to supports bottom. They can pressure the bottom tower
or they can't reclaim their own outposts.
They got nothing out of that double kill.
They instantly lose a core and a support
and they're gonna lose the Roche now.
Like they are just getting out maneuvered
like crazy by Team Spirit.
They have an exact read on this.
They have constantly been fighting on this side of map.
They are constantly getting down good vision
and just refusing to be like,
look what Navi's doing.
He's blinking in here.
He's defending, he's warding.
He's just delaying and ensuring he has nothing.
You can't tell this guy.
He's just gonna set up for a kill
because we have global mobility.
They move through it, collapse, he expires that kill onto Wipong with Laurel in tow, 17 gold lead, they are owning.
And the coordination here with the Underlord is just grotesque, very well done.
And when you get rolling with a hero like this, it just feels so good to play ahead.
They're going to step up, they're going to take high ground, first tier 3 tower, Yadro
claims it, and with nary a fight, he's here and looking to close this one out.
What's the answer, Iron Lady?
The answer is never buy a BKB.
Apparently.
Look how well Yadro and Laryl are doing, guys.
They don't need them.
You don't need them.
Okay, what if you're just better?
You haven't thought about that?
Oh, see, Laryl?
bought the BKB lyrical, maybe this is the turning point.
The turning point, yeah, the BKB is the game.
The buying the BKB will be the turning point here.
I mean, it hasn't helped Iron Wing.
You're not wrong.
My goodness.
What a performance from Spirit.
I mean, whatever else he can say,
Iron Wing has not responded the way they needed to
in this game number two,
in Team Spirit have put the pedal to the metal.
35 minutes are they gonna go for more and they're ready for any sort of a
play here they're holding this high ground they're watching for smoke angles
they're keeping an eye on who's pushing out what the auto continuing to play
very aggressively here with this silver edge obviously having some confidence
with this ages is he gonna run into he gets spotted here they see shadow
He is standing on a remnant underneath a ward. No cares. Zero.
Maybe. Double catapult wave coming in.
And again, it's three minutes on Aegis. Like, do you really want to try and do a big jump and fast play onto this Shadow Fiend right now?
There's no way it ends well for them.
I feel like they need two noobs. That might help. They need a lot.
Alright, well they're going in. There's the vision from the Sheva's Guard.
Find some, pulls it back, push lag, shark shooter, connection, not be dead!
Okay, that's something for me to turn into more, the closure, he's prosuring,
easy, having some trouble, tries to run away, but the right-clicks follow him!
Didn't stand a chance!
Sure, he just has to sit there and watch.
There's not much else to do, as they have built up a gold lead.
They are taking in these lanes, a second set right now.
team spirit indomitable in this game number two here is just trying to find
anything he's just running in here right now thing I have to start something
this is their desperate to play he just goes in a lucky guy they're walking in
never feels good no that's not the play you do not want to see that the hexes
out now LSA on the edge to do with the kid okay big 33 jumping like it's
popped much more do they have they do not have much strength it is not
I'm looking good for Ironwing.
Things look bad.
As a matter of fact, too.
Wait for his plate-deckers.
Come on, got pulled out.
We're gonna be tough.
Jurgis, go down low.
Not dead yet.
Laputa played out.
He needs to invest to survive.
OK.
That's into Ori.
So they take down the clockwork.
Now, I do have some bad news about their top lane.
You know, that part's not great.
Their top lane is entirely dead.
It's a little bit tough.
No.
There was a noble effort from Pierre to just get in there and try and make something happen.
And he did barely escape after being hooked up there by Rue.
Yeah, this is... this is despair mode right now for Iron Week fans.
And it's time for more of the Conjurus Catfish.
Oh yeah.
Now for the Lena here.
Oh, jeez.
Okay, Bashron, the life's of the Vector, pretty big.
Throw it into the hands of RNG.
Please save us, is the call.
they need a lot. They need kills. I mean, again, you win a couple of fights in sort of a triumphant
fashion for Ironwing, and that pulls this all back into their favor. Things could start to look
very differently, but winning those fights, how do you do that at this stage of the game?
I mean, BGM Laskin had a lot easier on Ian Boker. He's a hero that scales a little better
and gets this immense amount of burst damage right around this time of the game.
Ember, unfortunately, is a little bit more item dependent as well. His agonist is also
a great tool for that. Particularly, it's very good at just giving vision over the entire
fight, especially when you have the Sheeva's, but as a poorer Ember, he's just going to
have the aggs to work with. But that's their best hope, is that he's able to get in
the backline and maybe mess around with Ruin, not me, because they have truly been
the back bone of these fights.
Laps, pressuring out this building as the crozier
I invest with the region and everything else coming out.
Well, it's just keep yourself alive against the life stealer jumping on to us.
Yeah, great game for the corrosion for sure, especially because of that life.
So very hard counter to the underlord.
So any ethereal abilities are always very handy.
And this edition was a great one in this matchup.
Okay, this was the turning point last time 33 finishes the agonist sector. We've got a pistol blade done on the life stealer
He also has that she was done on the zoom for the big a we bonus on his doom, which is nice
You know what else we don't have to roll the die with the vessel. What's that?
There was also the game they were down to excellent things started to turn look at all all the pieces are coming together
Okay, iron wing
They're looking for a comeback. Do you have iron wing winning too in this picture?
I did put iron wings on my predictions. You are not wrong, but it doesn't have anything to do with what I'm saying.
Right, okay. Now I was just making sure.
It's not me. Smoke breaks. Back away. Don't hit anybody.
And retreat. No essence distiller. Connection.
I mean, it's true, this is a really good performance from Team Spirit so far.
And I think doing it in this way like we've talked about in game one, it's important,
I think, for this roster.
Just come in and dominate.
Not needing to constantly come back within 20 minutes.
BZF finds one, tries to jump in, not able to find anybody.
Hookshot!
On the 2, Rude decides to go through, then 4 staff back away, Jetpack out of there, Rude in, he's in,
ATM, DKB is down, he needs to be careful, Ori, they got their sights onto Pure, can they chase down this life-sealer?
He wants you, pops the rage, now Charance hits on the collapse, the right-clicks going in onto this guy, but he's living through it.
Now Rude on the back side, Rude finds another one, hits 3 with the cobs, on the land, the hit, the kill.
They jump in with 33 days.
Is it going to be enough damage though?
No!
He dies so rapidly.
Look at the hits coming in from Yadaro.
Four dead for two.
They're still doing it.
Man, what a cogs there.
Rue just playing out of his mind this game,
separating Pure from the rest of his teams.
They can't keep going with those saves.
They can't try and bail him out of that fight.
Despite all the healing he was getting there,
as you can see, it is not enough.
And they're going to march down.
SF in the mid, Lena on the bottom lane, only a single lane remaining, BZM forced to buy back,
but he just can sit and watch the double catapults go to work.
Trying to close this beam house right now, it's going to be mega creeps at 40 minutes.
Team spirit on a spree, there's 30 seconds until Doom is back up.
I don't know if Ironwing can hold it out in out of time.
There's a fiend's gate in five seconds and a five back on class, he might get cheesy here.
They're thinking about it. The Hits, they move in, Whitemon, dead, does have Eyeback.
But he's gonna get the Ceaseless Durage first.
Now the Hits onto the Tier 4 Towers.
Buildings start to fall. How comfortable are teams here walking in without Aegis?
With Doom respawning, they're gonna take the safe route and go ball back home.
Okay, sure.
They collapse by an Abyssal.
All right, so all Gateroot come through the gate and Abyssal you.
That's pretty awesome. I love that.
Well, Roche, it's gonna be a relatively long respawn, two minutes.
If they get that, I can't see how it happens.
A Charisma done on Laurel.
Iron way, you're gonna have to dig deep for some type of a salvation here.
Yeah, BGM, he's gonna go separate, he's gonna kite and sawn, he was forced to buy back,
so that Agz is gonna take the kite train at this point.
It's such a big power up for the Ember, especially if you want to play that style
where you're trying to interrupt the backline, it's so hard to build the Agz.
You just don't have enough mobility, you're not as fluid with your movements.
And now, Brew, he's already been throwing his body into the fires of these battles,
but now has the A on disc.
So, didn't go for the Blink Dagger build, still much more of a classic clockwork in
this one.
You can see Team Spirit hold in this high ground, and just letting the waves spam
in.
illusion is out here realizes it now and still can't really fight it that
effectively that's probably not a good sign either huh
they're so behind it all right three priests thinking about popping the do
means pump fake and he's ready backs out nullifier completed so okay so class
might just die if he messes up something yeah that's true I mean look
Nullifier, Abyssal Blades, Ironwing have the tools to kill a hero if they can get on top of them.
There's lots of ways to take down this Lena if you get that first jump, if you can find that right target.
33 jumps up and he's immediately intruded!
Oh, that's not the way they wanted to do! No detection! He's got no fucking way!
He tries to escape with the LSA connects on the several.
The turns, the hits, he punches him down, dead, 33 is gone!
Iron Wing! They don't have a prayer. They're trying to chase forward for more.
Waiman gets up onto the cliff, tries to TP away. Not gonna happen. Collapse.
Dropping the voice lines. As they turn, they hit BGM.
Nowhere left to go. GG is called! Team Spirit! Take the duo on the main stage.
Dominic Performance for the first series here on the main stage by Team Spirit
and not in their typical fashion necessarily.
The power of the crowd is great.
Let me tell you, y'all don't pause on their camera.
They cheer every single time.
And every time he's gonna kill, they're also cheering.
They love him, and I think he loves them too.
Absolutely.
Feeling good in that booth on the other side.
Ironically, not the way they wanted this to go.
Oh, sorry.
Another one of those players that was looking to prove it here up on the main stage,
team spirit that managed to get the victory. And I think that looked particularly close.
I feel like Team Spirit were struggling a little bit coming at like end of the group stage, right?
Like you're like, okay, couldn't play together, then they're playing against resilience. And it was
close. You know, there were some issues. Whereas Iron Ring were really finding it at the end.
I feel like they kind of figured out their drafts. And it seemed like they had the heroes
they wanted. They got those heroes here, you know, they got their hood away. And again,
they got their undying, but it wasn't able to carry them to the victory. So Team Spirit
coming to the very good plan is how Ironwing wanted to play and adapting really nice in the draft.
I feel like they did an excellent job just predicting what they were going to do and countering it.
A really, really solid performance indeed as Team Spirit were able to get that victory there.
And again, thinking forward to what this means, I mean, Ironwing dropping down,
it's going to be a scary lineup to go against in that lower bracket, whoever they end up facing.
But again, the victory today is Team Spirit that we're able to take it.
It went long and late in that first game number one.
This one much less.
Yeah, a little less back and forth here, unfortunately, for the side of Ironwing.
So they're going to have to take a look at this figure out.
We got our heroes, so what wasn't good?
Oh, let's see what they did for Spirit.
Hi, that's what's next.
Hello, Jonathan. How are you guys doing?
Thank you so much.
Alright, let's get started, Yachter.
I gotta say, I know how much you love the crowd.
I know how excited you are to be here.
You told us earlier this year, you were bummed you didn't get to go main stage here again.
Must be feeling pretty good.
Congratulations on winning this tournament.
You said earlier this year that you're looking forward to the team back to the best condition.
How do you feel now?
Yes, I love the world. I love this arena. I'm glad we won.
I like the audience here. I like this venue too. Thank you for your support.
Tons of Team Spirit fans out here cheering at your name. Are you surprised by how many there are?
There are a lot of audience here. Are you surprised by your name?
Yes, I am.
Well, good job.
Good there. Alright.
Game two. I don't really want to talk about it,
not much to talk about.
Game one, the Baron. Very impressive.
I have to ask, what was more enjoyable
for you to kick Ironwing's ass with?
Was it the Shadowfiend or the Loan Druid?
I'm surprised that they did not ban this bear. Why is that? Why did they let you get away with it?
I think they just forgot about the laundry when they picked Dome and thought it's not a problem, but it was pocket pick, so we're happy. We got it.
and they chose DOOM for us, which is not a problem, but in the end we still have our own opinions.
Someone said that TI is the most competitive tournament in history.
What do you think? Do you think your teammates will get the chance to win this tournament?
I think this is a good game. There are a lot of strong teams. I hope we can become champions.
Okay, that's also thanks to SluggyZ and Yadro for accepting our interview.
We'll leave the rest of the time to our fans.
Compared to Game 1, a little bit like last year's saviour.
Yeah, I think the way supports played on the insert was just incredible, this game.
You could see Nautmi being everywhere, he was like picking them off, surviving everywhere.
The way they moved in the early game, I feel like when you play against Ironwing,
they kind of force you to play this game and they are usually the ones making the moves first.
However, Spirit in this entire series, they were able to like turn it on them
and they were the ones making the first move, forcing the tempo of the game.
such as this moment, it was just incredible.
Yeah, there was one of the many moments here, Wente.
Yeah, they were just kind of really uncomfortable with this setup.
Yeah, like, whenever I watch, I mean whenever I see BZM is playing like a spirit hero that,
a hero that needs to move, they just don't really feel like they're comfortable playing the game.
Like, yeah, I don't know like, what happened?
Like, Ember didn't really have a way to get to this one.
And I feel like this is the type of fight that you need to be able to connect to as an Ember spirit in the early game.
Yeah, the game was all too quickly in the hands of Team Spirit.
And this is without the funky shenanigans that of course didn't.
Game number one where they were able to get a great start on the board already before
the war sounded, but it felt way more grounded if that makes sense, Rhea.
This is the lead that you could see Ironwing try.
There was no way of them getting out of this.
Yeah, I do think it was hot.
And whilst they were greedy with things like Midas on the Dune, they didn't opt for Sekiro
Midas on the Life Sealer, and you got a Radiance in good time.
They attempted to make plays with the Infest, but I think that Team Spirit, especially given
they were playing these two long-range pours, they just were better at positioning on the
map.
Like if you were watching the mini-map throughout this entire game, you would kind of see
the swings and roundabouts of Team Spirit moving in this formation where the supports
are always out in front and then there's like a shadow thing kind of a bit behind
Lena's then a little bit further back with her boost of travel ready and then
Underlord is all the way on the other side of the map ready to go with this
Oh at any time and it felt like they were always moving in this way where
Ironman could just never get any kind of fight that they wanted yeah we have
previous game of course it was Laurel sorry it was tutorial without a single
death to his name this time it is Laurel on his Lena it was a hero that
14 spirit was picked in that first phase it was their first pick and that did mean that it was
Ironwing and and with that bcm that could pick a hero
Against it. They went for ember spirit. We talked about this saber about that. It should be not that bad for ember
Why did it turn out this way? Yeah, so um
What I enjoy more than feeding in my pops is being wrong on the panel. It is actually good for lina
I was talking to Queen backstage. She said yeah, it is mainly like 60 40 for Lena
He embers can survive this. However, you're just ranch hero
You have enough to to like harass him down and we could see it
He was absolutely zoning him and destroying him it
Lara for sure the MVP this game
absolutely
Perfect gameplay then 10 and all what what more do you want?
I mean what I would want is I would want to know when sir
Why they felt comfortable picking Ember into that to begin with because it was it just a hero that would be then better for the game
After the landing stage because after the drop was done we said that was so much focused
Sequence they felt like they couldn't really pick the other heroes the other course and they needed more time to reveal the other
Because so they had to pick a mid hero and they see Lena
So the immediate top process is we just pick a mid hero that could just play the link and maybe you could also buy
I don't know if that was part of the plan and they have some kind of hero to lane against Selena
I wouldn't need to point out here how incredible it is they kill the Ember here because as you can see they have like two stuns and now
He gets stunned by
The Nogre if I'm not mistaken. So even the Dota itself is working for a spirit
As you can see, he's like, no dogger, no!
I respect that.
It was like, impressed, it's incredibly impressive that they were able to get these Ember kills.
Another one here, beautiful route, into stun, into another route, and then a hookshot from Timbatu.
And they managed to get him, it's like, it's really good if you manage to get these Ember kills,
because it kind of snowballs you forward.
If you're not able to get the Ember, he's able to just play them up, push all of your
waves, it's a big problem.
Yeah, that's why when they picked the Wheeler, I mentioned Wheeler was one of the best heroes
against Ember, so he always creates opportunities for you because you have enough lockdown with
that hero.
And after those two kills, like the 15 minute kill on Lifestealer and that kill on the
Ember, I felt like they just kind of almost lost the game there after the two core
kills.
They couldn't control the map, they just had nowhere to farm.
Yeah, they got the Ember Spirit on control and you want to highlight how they got
the Lifestealer on the control as well.
Yeah, I think he just got killed by the SS at the top, like he didn't really expect the damage and he just went there trying to defend the tower
and as soon as he died there they lost the top tower and the map just became really small because after they lost the top tower, they lost the mid tower
and you have no access into your ancient area after that point.
Yeah, and that was definitely top position for Ironwing to be in and then later on, Rhea, towards the end of the game obviously there were maybe chances that Ironwing was trying to get a foot in the door
but there were two people stopping it.
There are two support players.
I don't know why we're saying Loll's the MVP.
I think it's pretty fricking obvious
it was the support of this game.
We've talked about them more than anyone else
on this post-game panel
and they were delivering it every single way.
Like I talked about earlier, this formation,
there's always a support out front.
Like it doesn't matter if Iron Man just wanna
move forward on the map or they wanna smoke out on the map.
It's always this clock and this wheeler
that are catching these moves.
They get it far earlier as well.
And you see here how they triangle on the stock wheeler.
She's on fricking killable.
She gets out because she has a net worth of advantage from their team playing so damn well.
You have this like four star jewels and her own spells that make her so elusive and that
gives their team all the time in the world to set up and come and respond to these moves.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg end of the game where it's so dominating
in their favor.
But this was happening all game long.
The way that they warded, the way they put their supports out, it just meant that
they have constant coverage and ways to protect their cores, which is how this
Shadowfiend, Lina, Fyroko were able to thrive in such a beautiful way.
I mean, to add to that, I think the reason why the supports were able to do that is first whenever you have Underlord.
Underlord just sharks all the way, so it's easy for your supports to just move together and play the map.
Whereas you compared to Doom, Doom can't really do that.
You kind of have to show your hero until you have the shark and you eat the dragon.
So I think the early game was better for the supports on the Spirit-Style because they had Underlord, even though he lost his lane.
And then the game spirals out of control and all before you know it,
But it's a 2-0 in favour of Team Spirit who now move forward in the upper bracket top six
confirmed whereas Iron Wing will drop to the lower bracket.
Both teams of course still unsure of who they will face next but that's okay because we're
going to figure that out as the day progresses because we are ready to go to our next series
our next best of three here for the main stage of the international it will be Team
vision versus boom boys and to get started with that one we are gonna hear from Miero and Saif.
Our journey in the growth stage was starting from some
a little bit problems and we got some mistakes that we need to work on so we keep improving on it
But eventually we knew that in the Illumination match in Decider, our rubber picked us.
We knew it was going to be a different game, you know.
So we won and we were super happy.
When we played against Team Vision on the group stage, we gave them too much respect
because we lost to them on the previous tournament and now on the playoffs.
We're going to prepare for this match.
They are considered like the best team of the TI.
I will sincerely think that my team can win.
This is like the only way I can play in the TI playoffs.
Otherwise, they are just no meaning in competition, you know?
Of course, everybody in this tournament wants to win TI.
As for me, this thing is the same one.
But for me, going through the playoffs and playing on this arena,
My family watching me and our fans, most important thing.
I mean, it's my dream to win at TI, so obviously it feels very special.
All the time it's my fifth TI, and obviously I want to win so far.
That's my fourth TI in my Dora history.
So for me it's the most important one for every player.
So, for me it's just my aim and purpose to achieve the ages.
I think our expectations were always the same.
Before the tournament we wanted to make it to the top three, something like this.
I think it's kind of the same, even though we didn't have a really good group stage.
It's still the same.
Playing on the crowd is really good and it gives you more feelings about this tournament.
this tournament, so this tournament, it's different between other tournaments, of course.
I'm super happy that we have this possibility to play in front of the people that cheer for us.
So yeah, I'm super happy and grateful for the support from all the fans.
More feelings, more emotion when it comes to playing on the main stage,
and I'm sure we're gonna see that translated
in some epic moments for our upcoming series.
And you hear Miero and Steven, they talk about,
you know, the rocky road that for them was the group stage.
And they are going up against the team
who had no rocky road at all
because it's Boom Boys versus Team Vision.
Focusing our attention first on Team Vision,
I feel like you guys gotta be aware of something
that some of you at home might not be aware of
because there is a person that is back at the TI stage,
It's none other than puppy.
He's back.
He's coaching.
He's better than ever.
Somehow, I don't know.
He's just good at everything.
What can you do?
This team will not stop talking about puppy.
Any time you ask Vision, how's it going?
How's the improvement been?
What's been the biggest influence?
Puppy.
Puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy.
And especially, Satanic has elevated to a brand new level off the back of his
mentorship.
specifically in his team's vlog about EWC, about how Satanic is a carry player
who plays so much on instinct. This youthful like instincts and I you know
they understand what to do, their reflexes are better, their mind is sharper, but he
has no idea what he's doing apparently. So Puppy's like grabbing him by the
head and making him understand why is it that you're making the moves you're
making that are working out and say he actually actually think and he's like
oh I understand now and then when he's consciously making those moves he's
He's now even better than before and he's ironing out those mistakes like bad satanic.
Don't join a fight, you don't need to join.
You have to go far more and that's why GFM is skyrocketing.
This little boy is being molded into a TI champion that we might see bloom this year.
Yeah, that's the youngest player on the stage of the main event here for the International
18 years and to be able to translate into instinct saver into understanding.
That's quite a big feat.
this and I cannot like believe he is this good. I am watching his replays and he is somehow
always the highest net worth and always like 3000 ahead of the pack. I have a suspicion
that it's because he's also making all the moves and making sure that he gets every single
last hits whether it's kill or a tower or anything else because I can't believe how
farmed he is. Yeah and this team had a smooth road in the group stage so they made
here for and all the old team to not have a series defeat under their name. We'll see how they fair here
against a boom boys. Boom boys have been trying to breach that final stage of the international
time and time again winter. They have not yet managed, but this surely is their best shot so far.
Yeah, I think they've really kind of figured out something about like what they need to do
as a team. And what I realized is that they have one of the most of the highest hero pool
on the off-lane mirror he plays like he played 11 different heroes so far and most of the
off-laners play 6 or 7 and collapse is like the 7th and 10th and yeah and he kind of also
always gets the priority pick the 18 pick the 24 pick you get you know he gets priority
in the draft and if you get priority in the draft and you have a small hero pool
usually that's not good yeah and he has been doing well we heard him talk about being
being filled with positive emotions just now, this main stage for them, this is a team saver
that you can get access to as well. In the past, this main stage vibe was very hindernous.
They kind of struggled with it a little bit.
Yeah, but to be fair, it also just gets harder and harder as you progress through the tournament.
So they kind of have to start playing against Vision, which is not an easy opponent
at all. So I feel like if they were, if they're able to get this win, I think they're set
up for success. They can easily go into the top three top two. If they don't win, that's
okay. You face off the strong, one of the strongest opponents, maybe the strongest and
you still have the lower bracket to run through there. So they just need to stay strong.
And you know, hopefully they take this first win. That would be amazing for them.
That would be amazing. I will say, that would probably be considered an upset because
I think this might be from people's prediction point of view.
It might be the most skewed matchup.
I mean, it's unfortunate, but it's also recency bias.
You know, it's not like this team's never been being before.
It's not like they didn't have any games taken from them in the group stage.
So to say that it's impossible, I think, is a stretch.
So we can believe we can believe and they will take all that energy
that the crowd brings as well.
And of course, for this very series,
We're gonna have a fantastic series, but first the teams will take the stage
Team vision will take the stage, and this team is a favorite for the championship.
A favorite for the fun and grand finals, but they still have to make their way.
With a bullseye on their back, and the first one to take a shot, boom boys.
players and guess what? There's another team that they have faced before, and it is vision,
and it did, unfortunately for boom boys, also result in an O2, but the last time they got
O2, they were presented with the opportunity to come back, and come back, they did, they
might have learned those same lessons from having already faced vision in those group
stages, and they might now be able to take them down as they take their place in the
boots. It's time to talk about the playstyle of both teams because winter I
want I want everybody to be able to understand how let's start with vision
how come they are considered to be so strong obviously we've seen their
gameplay what makes them so unbreakable when it comes to their gameplay I think
they have a couple ways of like approaching the game I think at the
moment the strongest playstyle you have like a spirit made and you you have
your carries on the sideline you have a hard carry and then your support
kind of just plays around mid and makes space.
And you can also see them sometimes going for like the counter matchup.
Like no one likes also to play the counter matchup.
I mean, he wins the lane.
The support also plays through him.
And then when he is on a more greedy hero,
you see them make adjustment on notice.
Maybe notice plays something like a slugger.
He's less greedy, and he's the one moving around the map.
So they have a lot of ways of approaching a draft,
which makes it very, very difficult for a team to choose.
What do we do against Vision?
Because they can do anything.
They can pretty much pick any hero and play anything.
I would say that if you ask me the critical pick might be the IO in this series.
Yes, I know, I know where this IO you wanted to talk about it as well when it comes to boom boys
because they are the IO team. Yeah, I'm very impressed by their IO, Kiritich. Honestly,
I think it's been such a blessing for the team. I've really enjoyed watching him play and his
IO is something that apparently was running a mock in pubs, but he legitimized it on the pro
He's played it one time so far this tournament to win and it's a really cool hero have you seen this ball?
I don't know where the rest of the graphic is.
Well, I'll do it.
His eye overs is fantastic.
The way that this hero works essentially is every it doesn't matter if you go in safely.
It doesn't matter if you're going mid.
There are two camps that you can basically go and hard farm in this hero.
hard farm and this hero will basically run in a pattern between going to lane and going
back to these camps and farming them on repeat over and over and over again until he gets
his helm. And then his speed of farm just increases so much. The way that he functions
is similar to Underlord, right? You can be at any fight anywhere globally. You can
cut waves. You can be at team fights. You can farm more. It's like so versatile.
I think teams hopefully in this break maybe took a little bit more focus on how to
to shut it down, like maybe blocking the camps.
I thought we don't see much blocking of camps anymore.
So the secret to the hero is farming,
knowing how to farm on this hero.
Yeah.
He's a good farmer.
He's a great farmer.
It's worked so well, and we've heard the boys talk about it
as well in their winners interview.
Once they won from Aurora, they were,
it was a close series.
Let's just say that.
And they were very confident,
like as soon as Iowa has its timing, it's over.
It's done.
It doesn't matter what Aurora is doing, we win.
And that's exactly what happened.
Yeah, and then the second problem is like, when you play against Io, he gets his axe timing and then he's super strong.
But then every single item he buys afterwards just makes him or, you know, the Io more strong and just more unkillable.
And eventually you hit the 25 talent and you're just shooting left and right.
Your reload is like no cooldown and no cast time.
And it's just really hard to play them up.
It kind of reminds me of Laundry with how difficult it is to play the map against the Zero.
But how much of it is also because of the pairing?
Like we saw the IO logo.
Yeah, preferably you want like a carry hero on the mid lane,
so you have two heroes that scales really well into the game,
one of them the IO and the other your mid laner or the off laner.
Which to be fair, both Miero and GPK can play this type of hero
and they scale both really well.
Which is funny considering we're talking about boomboys in the later stages of the game.
You want the, in this case, the carry style mid laner with the IO paired up.
But historically, boomboys has always been especially strong in the laning stages of the game.
That's where they normally is like, okay, they'll have a great laning stage,
and then they'll either fast win or fast lose. That's different now.
Yeah, I mean, the early stage, like I think winter started best.
the early stages feel so relevant for the most part even in the first game of last series we saw
them devastate them in the beginning with Tusk and it still became a cool scheme and I'm glad it's
kind of moved away from that. I also think that that's kind of reflected in Kiritich's hero pool
almost. I think he used to play so much more sacrificial and now they pump so much more form
into him and I do it's a good sign of change right about adapting to your patch.
Yeah, I think that is what makes Boom Boys now also just like vision versatile.
If you mentioned the versatility already coming out from this offlane, how will we see that reflected in the game?
Because that's something that vision is not going to necessarily be able to prepare for because they don't know what's coming next.
I think the draft is going to be very important.
You have to understand that laying face is not as important and you want picks that would actually function well.
and something to do in the mid game, like when you can look at the draft, it's like hero pairings.
When you're playing the map, you need specific heroes to kill specific heroes,
so what do you want to pair together? I think this is something that is very,
very important right now in the draft. So for example, if you have the ember and you have a
hoodwing, so together these two heroes, you walk around the map, you get kills. So I think a
lot of the pod process in the draft is on this, because when you have two heroes on top,
two heroes on bottom, like one hero should be the body to protect the carry, and the
And the other is the kill combo.
I think you see it a lot with Ember and Hoodling.
And how are you using these heroes on them?
Where are you going?
I think all of these things would play out in the draft.
So having the right draft to allow you to do moves like this
is very important.
Who's going to push out?
You do not want to only have catch heroes.
Who's going to push out the waves?
That's why the Helm heroes are really strong right now,
because they push out the wave,
and your Hoodling gets to find the kill.
And it almost feels, Saber, like both teams
right in this tricky balance during the draft of how much are you drafting for the game and for being able to
You know win the the later game of Dota 2 versus
How much are you able to not lose too much in the lanes because there's a little bit of sacrifice that is being made there
Yeah, and to be fair, I feel like most of these teams they kind of played to have a lineup that they're comfortable with
They don't really play for counterpicking too much. I've only seen
maybe Falcons do it here and there, even though they also like to stick to their heroes.
I think for vision specifically, their free course can kind of play anything, so they rely on that.
And the fact that they're all incredibly skilled, Zedanik especially, you know, he can play all the carries.
You can just get him a good hero and then do what Winter said, make sure that you have a good pairing for your support.
So it lines up nicely, you want some lane push, you want some stuns to set up kills.
And you want to make sure that your lanes make sense. Yeah, and we talked about Miero already being the most versatile offlaner of
This international I want to focus our attention on his counterpart a little bit
Someone who a lot of people might not be too familiar with
Ray I noticed has not gone unnoticed
Had to do it. It was a good one. This guy's been very very impressive so far
on he
was you know playing like a
on trial, I guess they were comparing him against other offlaners, but he just had so much success and he fits really well into the
Team's playstyle like I think we haven't really touched massively on nine class yet
Who are absolute animal on the map? Oh?
And whilst I believe some of his like wilder tendencies have been maybe curved a bit like puppy's joining
He's still playing like fun heroes. He's still playing things like bounty hunter. He wants to run around the map
He sees an opportunity. He goes for it. That's what noticed kind of
he says
That bad will do what he wants and so I will adapt and allow it for yeah, and I think that is a beautiful thing
I think if you can let your pause for
Flourish and just pick heroes that kind of live one study and can play on their own
It's a good thing, but they have been playing a lot together on the lanes
It's not been as bad as people make I mean was he also the one that started the fad of the fall got lids
I noticed oh it might have been yeah
He did have some very strong builds and it's funny because the vision and young decks and one more team
They were rotating the free-off laners. It was noticed SSS and DM and they kind of switched around the teams
And now this is how it landed and you know as we can see notice probably the you know
He got the best
Best team out of that or maybe he is the best and that makes his team the best kind of fits like
Satanic space or more because he's flexible and say 10 it can just play his hard carries
But I think with DM DM kind of farms a lot more
So they kind of have to find a different way to balance the job which might be a little bit more difficult if you look at the players
Yeah, and when we're talking about those satanic is farming a lot. He's getting high net worths in case you missed it
satanic Sinek has been farming a lot and we do have a bunch of his records here and the heroes that he has been
Successful on which is most heroes as they only dropped two games on a satanic during the entire group stages
So he too, Brea has been versatile
That's my goat I
Think the ability to play all these different types of heroes is so important as well because
So many carries are getting banned out in the early draft now like we see loan druids disappearing nature's profit disappearing
I think people have been trying to let stuff through to see what they can beat but so far
It's not looking good like last series, you know shadow fiend and loan druid considered to the most broken carries getting through obviously
They're not winning. It's crazy
Um, but yeah, I really liked his life still when he brought that out as well.
I think he's just, he's so good.
And they all fit the same general pattern of game.
I think that's the most important thing is that the farming patterns
remain like pretty much the same.
So it's very easy to kind of just put yourself on a new one in his fight.
But he hasn't really strayed like super far out into like, you know,
other types of carries.
Oh, I wanted to talk a little bit about our mid lane matchup.
I know for people that were tuning in the whole day at the
started the day. We did mention no one already for various reasons, but in this particular
matchup, no one is our oldest mid laner here. He is 28. He has had a long standing career
and he has had much success already throughout his career. He has so many major wins, years
in a row he did well, but not at the TI main stage. He has come third once and this
his best performance thus far. But people have always expected that a squad that he had
then would do better and would at least lift one age. And he has not yet lifted an age
disease here in the mid lane. He's trying again. When no one fell off a little bit,
he took a little bit of a break, he took a little bit of a step back. There was another
mid laner coming out of Eastern Europe that stepped up and was like, okay, this
is now the prodigy. And that was GPK, who he's mid lane against on the side
of boom boys. GPK is 24 so he is a couple of years removed from no one. GPK has also had
maybe not entirely similar road to no one but he has always been on teams as well that we
expect to do well. We expect him to be having a podium finish and also he has not really
found that same success and I want to talk about these two players with that in mind
but also keeping in mind the playstyle winter that they have because I kind of feel like GPK
maybe in the start of his career, maybe emulated what no one was doing in the mid lane as well.
So they're very similar in my eyes. Yeah, they're very similar. They can play for the team,
they can play the carries for mid and I think GPK, I would give him the slight edge in terms
like the laning. I think mid-late game no one is probably better at making certain divisions
and his teamfight initiations is I think a lot clutcher than GPK.
So I would say the main difference is there,
but overall this is a very very close I think matchup
and the support picks are going to have to help them.
I think whoever gets the upper hand in terms of early game
they can help out the mid laner, play through the mid laner.
That team is going to have a significant advantage
and this mid lane is going to be the the location
that you want to win the early game.
What I'm interested to see is that a lot for a lot of the games
We watched no one he was playing our spirit and let me tell you he is an absolute beast on earth spirit
However, I think as the meta developed will see less of this earth hero. It might be banned this this
Game so is he as good on other heroes?
I think so, but we'll see because GPK also one of the best mid laners. He is absolutely incredible
Especially his KDA. I know he loves playing for his KDA
So great stats, and we'll see. I'm very excited.
We have a big discrepancy with that in mind on the amount of games played, because Vision was the first team to move through.
That means they've only played four rounds of Best of Threes, whereas Boom Boys has played five rounds, including, or rather on top of that,
that a elimination round. So two more best of threes and that was like one and a half days of Dota 2
and it was indeed during that second to last day that we saw that Earth Spirit just rising and rising
and rising. So Vision basically got out with the Earth Spirit still played before people started
addressing it. So I'm sure Boom Boys will address it as we are nearing the draft coming in for
this best of three. One side we got Team Vision on this on the feed in series and the other
side we got Boom Boys definitely the challenger when it comes to this best of three will they
once again arise to the occasion we're gonna find out as we're ready for the match.
Team Vision versus Boom Boys, game one.
We're diving into it with Boom Boys on the radiant side and Team Vision on the dire side.
I'm sure you're both sad and happy to see that the IO that we talked about at Length Rea got addressed.
We got it banned out in the first phase as the first phase as vision first pick and therefore boom boys overall last pick
I think it's good. The necro as well. I think was on my mind
Kirochich played it and I this hero is so obnoxious, especially when he's out of carry because it is
You know if it's a travel buyer and I honestly think that the level of these teams is like so high when they can utilize
Mr. Travel Heroes, especially on mid like you can get snap by lina these types of heroes
It lets you just play more of the map, which lets you raise your dpm even higher
But then also be involved in all the fights
And I think when team vision really wants satanic to just sit an AFK farm
You do not want a net for pushing in all of your your map space
I mean do you guys also feel like they're kind of trying to force
Heretics to play more like conventional carry that ban out the special carries because if you compare both carries
I think heritage is a little bit worse in the convention the normal carry here
So if you can force the game into that type of setup
it would be good for team vision. Yeah exactly I think vision they're like
thinking okay we're the stronger team all we need to do is just have a normal game of Dota 2 we
need to not get cheered by this IO or by some micro let's stick to our guns they open with the
long route against lina I think 50-50 matchup can go either way kinda depends on how the lanes go
However, as we saw from the previous game, Lina mate is very strong and very dangerous,
and it's a very good hero at finding the laundry around the map and picking him off.
Yeah, I imagine this is more likely to be GPK's Lina than a carry run.
Obviously, they could leave the flex, but I'd like to see maybe Keratich on his Kez.
We saw this laundry matchup against Kez earlier, and I honestly wasn't that saddened
buy it like I think Kez's damage output gets absolutely insane especially after you buy your axe
where it totally felt viable to me. I mean it's also the fact that when you have a mid laner you
kind of need your carry to do some work in the early game and Kez can kind of help you do that.
Very interesting so they banned out the enigma for the long route which is
it's like the second best hero against long after underlord but they decided to leave the
Underlord in the pool. So the main reason that's the case is because he kills you at the catapult wave
Because in the first couple of levels, I imagine laundry will still be fine
Yeah, it's that and it's also that Underlord has the firestorm spell which is percentage damage against the bear
So you you are able to like fight the laundry back in the lane which not many heroes can do
They usually just get bullied by the bear and it's it's very sad. I
I really like heroes like Underlord, like the Afterlord against Lundred as well because
you rely so much on your war to dispel once and then your BKB, but often when we get to
the later games, the BKB kind of need to use it, like these Lundreds, the back of the
owl invades with the Shadowblade, then they use the roar to fear, and then they use
the BKB to be undisturbed while they try and kill this one hero.
Usually, both of those assets are then gone pretty early on in the fight, so when
When you have more and more roots and more and more disables, it makes it impossible for
this bear to move around.
There's also one more reason.
Whenever you play support against Loneju, you want a support that can't die.
If you can click your W and run away.
So supports like Wind, Dark Willow, you have a spell to run away.
It's always nice against Loneju.
Because most of the time when he sees you as a support, you just die, you know?
Yeah, so sad.
It's also like I like the Willow way more than Wind Ranger because the bear can
just buy the Dispersa.
we've seen these like ring monsters and stuff struggle that's a new hero okay nine
class has been playing this in the group stage and it's been really annoying it's
a very good hero at like find just running around the map and finding
the Lena and setting up for for his boys to kill him I do feel like men
class is a very good bounty hunter so it does fit for them very well the only
dangerous the lane you just need to be careful not to get too exposed I think they might have I've
might have seen him pair it with the dogs it before it's like classic that's good yeah combo and then
he did play the lane a lot and then his mid to late game became more about putting like deep
boards down keeping vision of the track disturbing the the triangle how much does he need a hero
slash bear I guess to to play with when it comes to the bounty hunter because that's he just
go around by himself? Does he need to be supported by that bear or by anything else that is global
or can help around the map and move back?
He has snapfire, I think snap and bounty. I think the snap might be a support here.
That's bounty, you can't really clear creeps and you can't really do a lot of damage.
So snapfire helps you with the clearing creep department and he also gives you a lot of
damage to kill off. If you find the lean-out, even the wheel, you don't stand a chance against
snap. Snap can just kill you anytime.
I actually think it might move mid. I think it just meets this
need of like, like I said, who's the travel mid that can just go around and make plays like your bounty can scout things out
You pair with another support and you're off-laner and then snapfire can just TP in from wave and then contribute with her
Oh, it just feels so nice. And we've already seen no one play at this tournament and look very very good
8 out of 10 games that they it was played this
Tournament have been a win. So it's not fire great success rate if snapfire does turn out to be missed
Will this be a Lena mid or carry?
Do you want to play Lena against a snap player?
Yeah, it's a very good matchup for you.
You will win the lane.
But this Wyvern here is...
I feel like Snap is probably one of the best heroes against Wyvern,
and she can't really save with the embrace.
Yeah, I think the Wyvern is mainly just picked for the carry to secure lane.
It's very strong. You can harass with your Q,
and then you can also heal your carry.
It's very nice. I also really like the center pick against snapfire specifically as you are able to just stampede whenever you see the
Kisses and it's basically impossible to hit the kisses. They don't have many roots or stuns on on vision
They do have this dark seer now who's gonna vacuum wall
However, you still have stampede for that. So unless they're able to follow up
Follow it up with a stun. You are able to just run away
way. But I like it. I think Darkseer is a good pick. You enable the Darkseer, the bounty hunter.
You push waves, so the pairing is very good. One guy is looking for kills and like sitting
it up. And the other guy is just farming waves and scaling. So very good pairing.
Well, we have got a ban on this ban, which implies that maybe Vision is respecting that
Lena to go mid. How, what else can you think? It's GPK on the side of Boom Boys
in that mid lane and he has Lina as his signature hero so I would not be surprised if he is the
one that wants to play it on the main stage of the international.
Tiny is the second carry to get banned out by them as we do see that there is for both
teams quite a bit of bonus time left.
I love to see that in game one of a best of three it just means that both teams
have something prepared and they are ready to showcase what they did prepare against
each other.
dying and then elder time being banned and I think crowd favorite coming in with
over a lot of spake techies meaning snapfire will be taken that mid lane damn
right techies lost big I was looking at Ducati's hero pool and I was like oh
elder time would be so nice in a span I was like well there's a techies for
like you know vacuum into the explosion I'm sure I'm gonna see that at least
once this game it's not quite as much control as I was hoping to see what
They don't have much stun so like they don't have a way to initiate just a bounty shadow walk
I don't know if it's going to be a problem somewhere down the road
But yeah, I don't really see them setting up kills easily on the map
It does give them I mean a lot of kills
I don't know if they have a lot of damage but lacking in setup
Maybe they can itemize to sort that issue up Nate's interesting because you
You want him you want stuns for because and then you want stuns for teamfight and for pick offs
they have the bounty hunter who's able to like double stun with his envys. So theoretically they
should have enough to like pick off people on the map. And then for teamfights they kind of have
the the vacuum into just a bunch of AOE spells from the snapfire and the techies. So theoretically
it is also enough. It's just very unconventional way of shooting heroes. Yeah it's not like some
simple you know let's let's pick Mars and he's gonna arena and that's our teamfight.
Instead they just they kind of make it work with the heroes that they have
Very exciting I don't even know why they left it philosophy. It's like I mean they had to ban like some kind of melee here
They've been I would say that the bands were fine
They've been tiny and what was the other melee here?
Yes, man, so those are kind of like it kind of makes sense
You know they they wanted to nerf the leading face, but boom boys. They still go about they want here
I think overall if I have to choose which one I rather play I'll probably slightly favor boom boys
I think it's nicer to play their heroes in the teamfights.
I would say that it's easier for them to execute their spells and to win the teamfight there.
As long as they don't get run down in the laning phase too much.
All about that laning stage, once again.
We got to make up our minds at some point, which we find more important because the laning stage,
I think when we're talking about that mid lane, maybe especially when we're talking about no one versus GPK,
Okay, this might be a game that will heavily, maybe more heavily rely on the success rate of those two players, right?
I just feel like, when I look at this lineup, I'm like, you have no real cooldowns for vision to play on the map,
but you put iron shell on your bounty, you can use techies all the time, and just go crazy.
Like, no one's gonna have them, so much magic damage.
You're just gonna go bam, bam, bam, whereas you can like, bait out this wyvern hole, this centaur hole,
and then you can just go again, you just keep going.
Just keep going. Okay, we started this series with having boom boys be the challengers here against team vision with
Team vision being the the rain boss as it were so far out this
International, how do you feel they did even they got what it takes for this game once?
Yes, I think team vision is gonna win you can quote me on that. I will never be wrong
I think they are absolutely go at it. I want to change my opinion boom boys are gonna win
I will put you on there after they lose the first game.
Okay, fair enough.
Alright, well, let's hear from the coach that got this draft together.
It is coach Bull with slacks.
Here, I am here with Bull, thanks so much, and Dima for translating as well.
So, you guys are up against P-Vision, a very...
This draft is going to be the one that finally cracks this team.
You play against Pre-Vision, but you had the opportunity to prepare for this team in excellent form.
Will you have a chance to win them in this series, what do you think?
I think it's better than the group stage.
Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely no sense.
There is always a chance, and I believe we will play much better than we used to play during the group stage.
Oh, what's changed? What's different now?
What has changed?
We have become better.
We became better.
Okay, good to hear, good to hear.
Were you surprised by that last pick? Techies kind of came out of nowhere. No? You were prepared.
Were you surprised by Miner in the pick?
No.
No, it didn't.
Alright, you guys got a lot of your comfort heroes coming out here today.
Is that just to keep the boys calm and ready to face against them?
Or were you specifically looking to get these ones for them?
There are many comfortable heroes in this pick. Is it to make the players comfortable or to play against this particular draft?
It's to make all of us have great dota here.
It makes it a little bit more interesting because these teams not only play a lot of matches against each other
but scream against each other so there's a lot of hidden strategies that we don't even know about, Cinderan.
How are you doing?
Well, I'm very excited for this game in particular because, mainly because of Boom Boyz, more so than Vision.
Vision obviously 4-0, they're the team to beat. We've heard that on panel. There's no surprise there.
But you and I have got to cast a couple of Boom Boyz series and we've seen...
They had a weird progression throughout the groove stage. They started 2-0, they came in hot.
Then they lost five straight games, and then they barely scraped by to get into the elimination round,
where they then 2-0 the opponent that picked them.
Awesome. They didn't have a choice though, right?
I did.
Oh, that was the one that you picked, right?
Yeah, Aurora picked them, right, if I remember correctly, and Aurora had beaten them 2-0 in the group stage,
and supposedly they also beaten them in four scrims in a row earlier.
So I guess, you know, that's dangerous. You pick the team that had a lot of learning to do against you.
So what I'm looking for here is, have boomboys leveled up. Because this is obviously the hardest test you're going to get in your first series.
I'm pretty hopeful for them in this game, to be honest. I think the vision draft looks a little bit spicy and kind of hard to execute.
Spicy? How is it spicy? It feels like a lot of regular heroes that we're used to seeing for them.
Um, it doesn't have the most obvious way of initiating, you're playing as a portfolio of techies bounty hunter who don't have reliable initiating lockdown, your offlaner is not your classic initiation hero either, vacuum sure it can work if the enemy heroes are in a specific position but there's no guarantee that's going to be the case.
However, I will say, I think this bounty hunter is going to become a bigger and bigger pick.
We've seen Yandex have great success with it on Soxa.
They might run it later today.
And of course, you and I, we cast a vision game where we were like, this is when it comes
to nine class playing annoying heroes that just roam around the map, give vision and
info.
This is probably his number one now.
And how are these votes?
Our supports are extremely annoying.
I mean, who likes buying it's a techies for God's sake.
Just if I looked at these two lineups and I didn't know vision one the dire
I would say I like the rating wise right it's just they are so good at playing even very hard to execute lineups
But with that said if you do have a slip up here there
I definitely think it's the kind of lineup that can really run out of scheme
So need to get off to a good start need to get some of the plays rolling correctly
Otherwise boom boys have them. I think it's fair to say they just have a more stable lineup
right it looks much more stable than me but that
At the same time for vision. We've seen this so many times before where
Coming in, just asking this very basic question with the bounty hunter, is there a game at
this level that you will win where the bounty has zero impact?
Because I feel like he's either completely worthless or just takes over the game and
they start snowballing.
Yeah, it's really hard to win if bounty hunter doesn't find the success that he wants.
The good news is when you're playing with Darkseer, that's infinitely more likely.
It's a great laning partner.
You can see he's being super good right now, and to hear it's in the iron shell,
matter of fact we'll not be able to kill yet. Well if you say that he won't be able to find it.
This is actually kind of close we'll use the stick though. It says this is a really good hero
pairing like the panel talked about Darkseer is going to push out the wave so Bounty Hunter
can make moves you always have the luxury of putting an iron shield on Bounty Hunter and
you can go jungle with that and you just farm more. It's kind of like having a home
with a domineer at the beginning of the laning stage. Bounty Hunter is notoriously a very
week later so having something that helps him be useful in the first five minutes is also nice
which is obviously because he's here putting even more pressure on security. Yeah I feel like the
games that we've seen which I guess happened in that many but they pick a hero such as the Dorks
here you talked about the iron shell combo with the indies from the bounty but also the fact that
notice on this darksayer can be left alone at some point and bounty can start to roam and or
kill couriers which i don't think we've seen one quite yet but pretty potent
oh they're diving the battle down here with glissomie and a lot of trouble
getting chased by nine-clash top of the fairy fire as noticing gone on
whitehearts if the vacuum comes out and that's gonna be first blood on tech
at the homie notice will take a tumble as well as
keratich actually does survive oh there might be a schmick here
live here gets the silence of the last time with the bramble as well as
nine-clash cannot finish the job quite yet
still looking for the blood grenade now applied to the chicken as keratich
trying to run it off.
Very greedy trying to get some last hits under the tower.
He's just gonna get killed off by 9th class.
Instead, super greed mode for Kiritich as 9th class will be traded off.
I can't believe he did that.
And now onto the tier one at the top lane.
Miero left to his own devices will be dropped in addition.
So vision after all is said and done have three kills, two to two, on boom boys.
basically a frame perfect blood grenade broke the south of Kez almost instantly and now it's
actually important because if he gets to heal another 50 HP with that salve wouldn't have died
to the final swing and he really need that last right click on the creep that he really needed
carry players yeah seriously but like you pointed out this is the biggest deal in all of this is
if you leave centaur alone against laundry it's terrible like this lane is so hard to play
So being able to force Katom to rotate down bottom obviously has big ramifications on Satanic's game
and he has probably just been the player of the tournament. If you're giving Satanic a free lane, if you're giving him a good start,
Christian are going to feel super confident and so far so good.
So I know Satanic has had some incredible performances in the past. I feel like last TI, I don't know if it was the pressure necessarily,
who is definitely not up to his normal standards. This TI, I don't know if you agree with this
as we have a pause, of course, it gives me vibes of TI 10 with Yatoro, how he just came on the scene.
Obviously, it's not like a huge surprise that Satanic is playing well, but playing above
expectations, I would say. Yeah, expectations are high, so that means a lot, right? I think in
the top 10 GPMs of the tournament, I think Satanic has six of them, which is an unbelievable
stab line when you consider how many games get played in a TI group stage. I could be
wrong but it's, I remember seeing a graphic where he had, I think four or five of them
were on Nature's Profit, or at least that hero had a lot of the top net worth since
Titanic holds some of them, but yeah, it's just by design the way this team plays, it's
also what we saw, what we've heard from Ray when she talked about puppy is, it's
very much in most of their games 4v5 for the first 20 minutes.
You and I got to cast Satanic play TA in the most ridiculous farm game.
He got forced out of lane level 3 and then he jungled
and somehow ended up with 500 CS min at 32 or something.
So he's very efficient. He knows all the farming patterns.
He knows what heroes to run and what game.
They always prioritize him very much with the draft.
This is actually a bit of an oddball because they first picked his hero.
A lot of the time, Satanic gets overall last pick.
So maybe they just feel like this is a great hero against boomboys in particular.
Longer or it's Winery, it's pretty bad though, this turn.
I was going to mention that, because Yatoro played that in the previous series, and he
started off with three kills.
So that's a lot of the reason that he got up to a good turn.
Because this hero in general feels like it's, for the first 15 minutes, very slow
until you get the Agnus Scepter eventually, and then things start to kind of pick
up the pace.
Does that feel like his play style to you?
Well, for Satanic, with how Vision played most of their games,
him being in the jungle for 20 minutes is kind of par for the course.
It's just a matter of, is the payoff on this hero versus a lot of his
more traditional hard carries.
Is that a better trade off for the team and is it worth first picking?
I think that's the biggest surprise out of all of this is not that they're
running loan drew it, but that they rated this highly with the
relatively or actually just flat out bad win rate.
this hero has definitely been figured out a lot more in the recent couple of
weeks. It was very very strong heading into this tournament but maybe vision
just you know I'm not going to question them until I see it fail. They seem to
have a very good understanding of what makes what works right now. That's fair.
We should mention this mid lane for the boom boys. GPK off to an incredible
are 35 and 12 versus the snapfire for no one which is a lot lower 24 and 0 so
definite advantage for GPK early on and we'll see if he's able to snowball
snowball that on his Lena. They definitely have plenty of late big
scaling on both teams one side with a longer snap the other with Lena Kez.
I think also worth noting in some of the games we've passed with Kez this hero just eats
tanky heroes in the late game, such as when we've seen it played against Centaur, they
have that themselves, obviously. I think the bear kind of falls into that category, where
Kez can just kill the bear extremely fast later in the game. We also did see that in
the previous series, even though they did not win that individual game, you started
seeing the problems that Laundryd was approaching in that game. So I can't with confidence
say that this is a game that vision are gonna win if it goes slow and late but I
don't think that's the plan here anyway I think they're gonna hit the eggs
timing and then they're gonna try to constrict the map with bounty hunter what
is this is that real 70 30 at five minutes from picks basically I don't
know about that that's a Dota plus loves some loan drew my goodness I have
My
If so feels 5050 to me may call me crazy. Wow
Yeah, really surprised that this does not feel 73. I don't think no something
We don't it is AI after all so turn
Has taken over our consciousness as it were
yeah top-notch worth already in the game is
Satanic on the Londonirood off to a pretty damn good start. Hey the thing about London wood late game
you're right that the hero it feels like it falls off at a certain point but one
thing I will mention and we saw that in the first series the and the reason it
falls out is because heroes are able to scale more than the bear eventually
especially like the kez type but buildings don't scale no the melee
it starts with the same HP and armor from minute one to 60 plus and once
Once you get mega creeps, regardless of your life, it is very good to come back.
Yeah, you saw in the previous series that I believe Gatoro got a Stygian Desolator on
the bear at 60 minutes.
That's why he was able to backdoor T4s and the Ancient Without, or even with backdoor
protection.
There's nothing no guarantee that you're going to find that at 60.
But once again, I don't think Vision's plan is to go 60 minutes.
I don't look at this lineup and think, hell yeah, let's go late game.
But you're right.
There is always that X factor of winning in that fashion that laid into the game.
I also think Darkseer is, as much as I talk about bounty hunter controlling the map,
Darkseer has been a little bit of a wild card too in some of the series we've seen,
even if it's not particularly great for the wall against the enemy carry.
Vacuum is just one of those game winning spells, right?
At any given point, you can slip up your positioning on the enemy team, you get three-man vacuumed
into a blast-off, and then it almost doesn't matter what the other heroes are.
Like, if you're that far out of position, you can lose with anything.
And the chasm stone into eventual Sheeva's makes the vacuum absurd.
Yup, because a lot of times, if you go back in history, look at Darkseer.
Okay, what good illusion does he make?
Oh, really?
Not great here, I would say.
I mean, kind of, hez, that it's melee, eh?
It's really just vacuum is that good that this hero can be picked in basically any situation.
Oh, they're on Kiritich's trail here.
We see the vacuum being put to good work.
It's off the parry, but he's just going down fast.
This double ion shell.
Another death for Kiritich number two on the chicken.
This is a great start for Darkseer.
This is a hero that sometimes has a bit of a slow start.
I like to say level five is when it really gets a lot better for him.
Well, he won the lane.
So he's talking at worst.
That's interesting you'd aggro the creeps by the way, while being disarmed, I actually
did not know that was the thing.
That's the thing, that's the entire purpose of it.
It's already interupting, I really don't think that's true, but I'm trying to save
face here.
Yeah, keep it up.
There's some pressure now to this tier one mid, who's always trying to find something
on the map.
They've lost their tier one bot already, they haven't really been able to pressure
satanic too much on this lone druid thus far this mid tower is kind of difficult
for vision to deal with though they managed to keep the siege creep alive
with cold embrace and utilizing GPK shield room to tank the tower for quite a
bit and this is a great take down minutes seven using the mid tower very
unusual here for vision yes you took the off lane tower I think kind of a
given that that's gonna happen with a lone druid rotation at some point but
That mid tower is a very big deal to find federal seven minutes in the air was just hitting level five by the way
Yeah, that's the best start
As wisdom shrines face a panic fair is gonna be very annoying
Gonna force out more rotation from boom boys
And off the hook stop
They actually have the damage you have another son doesn't look like it
So he's gonna teepee out just delays as much as possible save level three heritage level four still on
Kez
Level advantage, definitely the way of...
Dark Seer, six and a half, and Kes just hit five.
That is a very one-sided affair in this bottom lane.
I'm already with the helm now, onto the Dark Seer.
Notice I'm having a very good tournament thus far.
I guess you could save that for everybody on the dire side.
They just had such a great tournament so far.
Yeah, not losing will do that.
Yeah, that's right.
right although I mean they've lost individual games it's not like it's
been flawless provision they've had they have been challenged a bit already but
you you learn less when you win yeah that's right heard this from a wise man
once maybe they make sure to lose their screams then boom boys lost a lot as we
thought they lost five of six before finally just barely getting out of the
boot stage here for the main event now they've learned a ton they've
leveled up for sure have they learned have they learned to play with a sixth
in net worth has a minute eight I'm sure they've tried everything
no one get the scat of last off here looking for an opening but the
brambles gonna stop them in their tracks I say that nine thousand a tree is
sending out the mortimer it's like cat to me dead nice pick off from vision not
exactly what they were hoping for GPK obviously the prize possession if they
can grab him as nine class knows there's no sentry in this area now that's
obviously a very big part of bounty hunter is the economic damage he does to
the enemy supports if you're already losing the lane to this guy and then
you have to invest all of your hard earned gold on the five it's a sentries
you're not really gonna progress toward a meaningful item on the wyvern you
can see where nine minutes in he has boots and hundred fifty gold on
kanzo me so this will be a very late blink which is what he's clearing up
That's mainly good news for the Lone Druid, I would say if he does get involved at some point.
Obviously, Winter's Curse, an incredible ability against specific things.
If the enemy has a hard right clicker that gets close to the bear, it could be a way of killing Bounty Hunter, it could be potentially a way of killing Darkseer.
Doesn't seem like that is going to be a likely play to happen in the near future in this one.
It's hard to find a curse without the aggro of this game.
Nice. Stacking. Stacking will be taken out by Miero Company.
Yep. Helmendom on top.
It's a tie officially finished for GPK.
And what exactly is the snapfire going to be going this game?
I assume boots of travel to start things out.
Is this a... I feel like I've mostly seen the magic damage build.
build. Yeah. Do we see the right click at all? I don't know if we've seen it this
tournament. I feel like it's all been magic. I like the magic build better this
game regardless. You're playing into Wyvern. Also, it's a lot of AoE damage that
Kez can't really play around very well. So I think there's just too many
upsides to going the long-range artillery build and by going that way
you also potentially play better around Lena. Just outranging her is, you know,
Not many heroes can claim to do that, but it's not far one of the few.
I do feel like this is going to see the globs come out in the middle lane.
Might be a trade-on to Dital, SGPK. Looks to be finishing off with Lotus.
Dragon Slade for the road. The one for one is...
Not sure if we're going to see any more action now that Mortimer's is down, but...
This does feel like an eventual game. I know I love to talk about it sooner than I do.
Apologize in advance, as Track is now online for nine class, by the way.
a good cart game for the Suntar.
I feel like Lena is an excellent recipient of said cart.
I mean, even Chez is that bad.
It's also good to save against Lone Druid, right?
He's very hard single target damage
that sometimes it's just hard to itemize against
for your supports, for example,
and then Suntar might just be able to reset the fight
with a blink plus cart.
He's going by burst, though, as it looks.
That is a little bit surprising to me,
not because it's not a good item in this game.
you're playing in snapfire and techies obviously for some good magic damage and
some ion shells but we've seen it not picked up in games where it's better on
paper I think. Seen Centaur's just rush heart a lot more often than not so
perhaps this is telling us that boom boys are looking to actually take the
fight to vision with that item timing and try to exploit the fact that
Loundraud is likely just gonna be in the jungle until minute 25 at least. It's
a pretty narrow window though and if you don't get anything done it's gonna
to feel bad compared to going for bigger items such as heart is this is his lotus
game it's kind of decent against track it's always good 33 is out there somewhere
shaking his head with this pipe purchase on centaur yeah he's like you should
have gone Midas radiance on centaur please appreciate that nine-class gonna
get some vision on the save to get dusted at the last moment there's a
mindset up only a singular one last half comes through actually does make
I'm trying to say, but there's the counter-occurrence onto 2.
Good amount of damage from that.
The cookie's not going to reach.
Looks like the techie will tumble as a result.
The terrorized coming at the last moment as well.
Onto 2 has noticed, gets off his wall,
but he's going to get absolutely destroyed by Charifish
and the Luzuna Blade.
A nice pick off overall from Boom Boys onto 2.
The vision is not able to gain anything out
of this little skirmish here.
I think that is a great illustration of one
of the potential issues that Vision's lineup has
Once heroes start getting a little bit tankier, the burst damage just isn't that overwhelming, it's a level 6 techies, you only got one mine down.
And also a great curse, of course, to save that situation from Katsunomi.
Again, the kills, unless Snapfire is involved immediately, will drag out a bit, so it's kind of easy for boomboys to bring numbers and counter play.
Worked out all that time.
Not that I'm surprised to see the mage there, but the fact that they're going pipe on top of that for the centaur feels like
Yeah, it's a lot. They're gonna be pretty tanky in this mid game. Yeah feels like they want to
Take the fight to vision aside from the bearer who's gonna kill these heroes when they are piped
Wow, I think Lena does some damage
Vision side, I mean, oh, how are they gonna kill a pipe has with mage layer if he gets to hit the snapfire a single time? Yep
It's not gonna be that easy for 9 class, getting some good information here on Curitich.
He's coming!
This is actually a snapfire nearby, there's this fun to start things out, noticed in the
area as well, no one connecting.
That is a dead chicken, it's on the...
Oh nice timing coming out, what the last moment, healing up quite a bit of 9 class
now has to try and retreat, as Cata only joins the party, so Curitich will not
be dinner tonight for vision it seems.
timing on the raptor dance. I think he dodged the cookie fully and got to heal up a decent
amount and ends the play once again. If you don't get that burst in the media, when you
stop, you're callous. Not able to get there in time. I haven't seen the value from the
techies quite yet.
I also saw in the stats going into the game, techies currently 0 and 3.
Does that mean save has not played him yet?
One of which is to call us. He has one loss. I don't know if save has played
it.
No way. He doesn't lose on Tech.
He's given everybody else a chance.
That's why I thought they picked Tech.
He's trying to deny it, potentially,
but I can't remember the exact order of the draft.
Either way, GPK
has his boots of travel with the Kaia now
is going to finish off the Yasha
and line it.
Very early gem from Katsoomi.
I mean, this is a super-strong timing
for Boobois. I think their lineup's just better
right now than that of Vision.
You're running a gem. You have the pipe.
You have incredibly potent spells.
Is this just a matter of not getting caught out and put in unfavorable positions?
So far, so good.
Heritage is not super far away from the Desolator, and that's when he starts to get to the next level.
This is the hero that we have to worry about.
At least, Boom Boys has to worry about from the vision side.
Mjolnir online, and getting closer to the Agatom Scepter, and that's when the bear can be autonomous.
to do whatever he wants. He's unleashed. He's no longer the slave of Lone Druid.
They make it seem like Lone Druid is very good with animals, but he buys the
axe to get rid of the animal to the other side of the map. He doesn't want
anything to do with it, it seems. Isn't that interesting?
Yeah, it is interesting.
Okay, so we hit the 16-minute mark here.
Not gonna give you anything to work with on that.
Thank you.
Alright, Yannick, I'll be in this.
See where he puts that to good work.
Eritreus has had a lot of his experiences stolen from 9-class, at least leached.
So annoying.
Yeah.
This is interesting though to see the Lina go this route.
It looks like GPK wants to go Yashakai into Pike, so trying to play the distance game,
I guess supposedly looking to match the snapfire range.
you can obviously you can reset position against the
a lot of snapfire's abilities you can play against the bear
coming in for fear that he's going to have another gank
he's going to get stunned this time by the ability to scatter off the bar
there's the first to try to save him
Mortarmer's kissing with the extra grappling punch just out of range
he's actually going to barely know
the last blob hits him right in the back of the head
but now a backball onto two with the wall to come through as well
nine-tackled ball as noticed still alive
gets an ion shell onto normal but he gets gripped by the bramble
another dragon slave for the road for GPK so in the end it's a two for two as well one core dies
on each side I suppose but the carry I would think is the most valuable from boom boys side yeah what
an awkward situation this is a 4v4 where centaur obviously isn't there since he's farming the top
half of the map he's just juggling with his pipe and how much work that could have done there right
but yeah where's the heart man farm faster with that thing oh he's he's gonna get the
He's going to get blinked now, so I think he is very much looking to be involved in the next one.
You're sure he's not going to blink from camp to camp to get as much farm efficiency as possible?
He's definitely going to do that too, no doubt about it.
Yeah, that was a lot of things on the edge there. Importantly for vision, they do get the Kez kill.
That would have been a travesty if they didn't hit those last two globs with the very clinic they had, but...
Another good play from Kat's only to almost solve that situation on his own?
Even without the dagger it's been a couple of good curses and yes sure the curse doesn't kill anyone
But it is has proven to be a good reset button for them. And here is the smoke timing with the blink pipe
The callous
That would have been very big for boom boys and it spots the entire smoke
So a good sacrifice. Absolutely for the cause
It will be hurricane pike next for gpk and there's the axe coming out now for laundry
So we'll see I'm curious to see how a satanic chooses to play the map here
Obviously you have different options once you get the items on the bear you can just
Accelerate your farm heavily by juggling with your hero and then obviously the bear down the lanes from jungle etc
But you can also choose to be a little bit more involved in fighting and this is a player
We've seen arm a lot before he gets involved
Already 260 cs here on satanic, but let's see considering their plan with bounty hunter for I think he's going to be more eager to fight
and farm on the bear and keep an eye on their movement immediately with that axe pickup they are
smoking. Vision they're ready to pounce here gonna try to bait potentially in the air looking for an
opening with that blink back out of the blink also unnoticed the dark seer so watch out for that
this will be the reveal. They're making their way down bottom this is not an obvious move for
Kiritich. Oh he is running away. He's running the wrong way now though. Yeah going to camp
Get this camp. One more camp to care for.
Got a little bit greeny boy.
Oh, hard step tree.
Very nice.
Donk of the cookie, and now the Mortimer's kisses on cooldown.
TP's from Boom Boys as they want to try to do something with this opening.
I'm gonna get rid of these annoying mines, though.
At the very least, they don't lose their carry, so...
Kazen's pretty good at destroying mines.
He has a very fast base attack time.
So...
You can see they've been easily attacked before they explode, but yeah, crucial sentry there without that probably a dead case.
And for what it's worth, with the Great Star Vision pad, they haven't really compounded on that at all.
This is the same leaf they had ages ago.
Yeah, I would like...
Can we bring up the Dota Plus probability here just to see if anything has changed?
No.
Okay, exactly the same basically.
I don't agree with this still. It kills 50-50 to me. I'm an untrained individual. I don't do this for a living
No sooner you do it for it. Yeah, and what do you think I?
Would not say the dire when this game three out of four that seems a little bit too lopsided, but
Gonna have to wait and see how progress is at this point
Maybe we'll be made fools out of soon enough. I just see a lot of potential for boom boys
And again, let's keep in mind it's worth remembering how they've progressed throughout the tournament.
You can pick up a lot of momentum from hitting some adversity at the right time.
Effectively, they came in with a good start, then they hit a slump in the middle of the group stage,
and then they finished it off hot.
So probably coming into this with a lot of confidence, you heard Volk in the coach interview as well say that
we just think we're playing better than we were in the group stage.
And all the reasons I think that after they got on a little bit of a heater toward the end,
and especially getting their revenge in the Elimination Game.
Radiant's middle tower, some class looking for some couriers.
What's on this one?
Oh, that is real bad.
Oh my goodness.
Oh my god, if he gets out with this.
I don't think he's going to.
Surely they'll catch up mass TPs from boom boys.
Nine class, already at half-HG.
Looking up late, yeah, that felt really good, I'm sure.
That would have been a disaster.
But Blink Dagger, that's two minutes.
You won't be without that for the Wyvern.
Yep.
That's annoying.
Yeah, we'll be able to get the D-Ward as a result of this.
That would have been a very big turn
if he was able to secure the gym long term.
Well, it's down bottom again.
This time it's worse.
Derek makes us right.
Finally shows up to this fight.
Bear versus Chicken, who went,
Chicken is winning again though!
They didn't have any detection.
No!
Interesting.
Okay.
That's...unfortunate.
They're bringing out dust now, so that's good news for fish.
They'll have it next time.
Unfortunately, they might be getting backstabbed here.
No one.
Alright, he will...
Running away properly.
Notice under the cover of the tier one tower as well, so this won't connect
onto anything except for maybe the old tormentor perhaps.
two and a half minutes past its existence so it must be vanquished immediately of course.
I mean when you have this many heroes in the neighborhood you kind of do want to do it right
but maybe boom boys feel like they don't have enough information although
all right they're just going to go for it. You can see darts here I think on the war
that you're going to be trying for maybe else enough. You feel confident and that will be a
nice shard for save. It's the upgraded first crown. I feel like Dark Willow is the
Bramble specifically and especially this shard is very good against the bear. The
bear is, once the BKB gets kind of low on timer, mainly heroes in general have a
lot of obstacles they have to get through. I mean even Darkseer with the
surge sometimes just nullified completely because of a random Bramble on the
floor. I think that comes into play. I'm going BKB for that reason or at
least partially for that reason there's plenty of reasons to buy bkb in this
game who boys with loads bkb on dark sea as she was already he is super far he
is second admit worth it's gonna sound expecting to see him first with this
amount of farm but of course satanics in the game yeah satanic does exist in
fact silver edge now on him so big power spike for vision they've tried three
or four times in order trying to kill a terrorist they have not yet succeeded
And then the back wall onto two, immediate grappling claws, a nice LSA onto two from TPK, into the counter first as well.
Look at this damaging apply to the Dark Seers, no one gets a full range.
Mordemars is not really doing that much in the end though, there's already two dead for vision as they can't expair, but that's a fight to dust as well.
Again, Boomboy's already every single time for this vision play.
Yeah, they don't have any immediate follow-up. It looks like a nice vacuum wall, but Insta Stampede run out.
They have to combo this with a blastoff or with a cookie, or it just doesn't matter.
The illusion that they create is not strong.
Booblo's just reset position, and another great curse.
I have to say, Katsudoni in this game has been playing exceptionally well on the line.
We're just in the right place at the right time.
How many times now?
That winner is cursed again.
That's gonna be Roche.
So now, Booblo's have taken Tormenter and Roche and a good teamfight.
Alright, let's look at that Dota Win probability again, please.
Just want to double check that it's still 70-30 in favor of Vision.
Okay, it's gone up by like 5% Cinderine.
Okay.
Something's really wrong with this.
What the hell?
There's now a heart finished from the arrow.
So, does finally get to the big bad item on the centaur
and will likely go for the sharp next, which is a...
He's not going for that in fact.
He's going to be going for Ghost Scepter actually.
I'm just going to go Crozier.
Oh yeah, full Crozier, true.
Yeah, Darkseer curing that up as well.
So we're going to have a lot of Ghostly heroes running around eventually.
A lot of Croziering going on.
Yes, I would say.
TP onto the wolf in the arrow.
Love to find an opening onto no one, but out of reach now.
There's GPK about 600 away from Ags.
Satanic bear will be found and likely will be killed.
Oh, that is...
That's just a suicide mission for Ducalis.
So far, I have to say that Techies has not worked out at all provision.
Because without that blast stuff, they really are lacking stuns.
Yeah.
Again, it's not to sound like a broken record, but ease of execution here.
It is just hard for visions line up to do what it needs to do.
You have confidence in them because of their track record in the tournament, but I think
personally for me this is one of their weaker drafts.
You just still, you always at the back of your mind you're like, Satanic is super
farmed, Notice is having a good game.
They're going to find that fight eventually that is going to put them in a good spot.
Moonboys have done a great job the last 10 minutes of not allowing them to really build
any advantage on the early laning stage where both the darkseer and they won both side lanes,
hands down, right?
On vision side, they just, it hasn't led to anything afterwards.
No progression on the map.
You still only taken the tier one top and the tier one bottom tower.
You not even halfway through the mid one.
And you lost both the tormentor and the roach.
It doesn't get much better than that for the radiant so far.
And I feel like no one has not really...
What's the best way to put this?
Because GPK started off so well, and he's continued that.
No one has not recovered from the laning stage at all.
Like, this impact we've seen, I think, with Mortimer's kiss,
his one kill onto Kiritich was pretty impactful,
but outside of that, and again, lack of stuns
may be not the greatest setup for him to get those globs.
Yeah, he's definitely plateaued.
Easily the bottom net worth of the cores here.
See, they're holding hands on all of Boomboy's cores. They're within the 50 gold of each other.
How often do you see that?
N'Kalus.
Now this will be an eventful bet for N'Kalus, one with name.
Actually found in the tree line. So GPK, Mega Streak.
Got five kills to his name.
As known, Aga and Scepter comes for Kiritich.
Flame Cloak is so good against techies. You get a ton of magic resist.
You get flying movements. So you can just catch them in the tree line.
It's a very easy matchup for Lina to play now. She doesn't get caught off guard. She just solo killed techies with very minimal risk
And they're just flying through the mines
The double she was now for vision something we are seeing more and more
And they changed the way she was
Yep, there is a lot bigger busted stat would have thought cookies are larger
So maybe they can get the stun that they've been missing all game long and
Scare attention TPK will team up to secure the tier 2. It's not a minute on the ages
And not sure if they're gonna get anything else, but there's still the tier 2's top and mid
It's too late to group up and go for that as they do need to clean up these waves
something that's also important when it comes to main stage games like this is
is when the players are comfortable with the idea of going late, because often times when
the stakes are higher, people become a little bit more risk-averse, they play safer.
I think on the side of boomboys, they probably feel quite comfortable that this is a game
they can win down the stretch, so if the pressure is on vision to do stuff, and their
last, I want to say, 3 or 4 team movements just haven't worked, regardless of what
the game state is in terms of actual net worth. Boom Boys are probably just in their comms and
focused on just keep on scaling. I just overall think their lineup will be better down the
stretch and the only thing that can really swing things is either a fat vacuum or if
Lone Druid somehow gets to kill Wyvern before the fight even begins, right? He just comes
in with Silver Edge and beats down Katomi, but he is obviously going to buy items to
try to solve that problem. You can see Katsuo right now eyeing up a ghost scepter
plus the A on this as his quick buy and if it fair doesn't buy a nullifier he'll
never be able to kill the wiper. Yeah it's just gonna be required at this point.
And Pete? For what? Did they see nine class on a sentry maybe? I don't know.
They just clicked R. Okay they did. They get the dust. Nine class.
Dead again. Four stacks. Honestly pretty good death. That was a smoke move from
some boom boys that did not end up going on a better target.
At what point will Karatish be able to just destroy this bear?
Yeah, that's the other thing about the late game.
I think boom boys, this is their best hard carry in recent memory.
I just think Karatish does exceptionally well in late game on chess.
He has a very good understanding of the limitations and of the strengths of the
hero.
Yeah, I think we've passed it so many times.
We are so good on this here.
So again, just your confidence and your comfort, GPK is playing a hyper scaling mid, Centaur
are probably one of the hardest scaling off lanes as well, like all three cores can just
become beasts and sure, when it comes to killing the bear, it's mainly the Kez that's going
to be doing the heavy lifting there, but Lina actually could do a significant amount
of damage to the bear too.
Even just forcing it to BKB is a big, is a big win if you can pull that off.
Yeah, for sure.
I was going for the other flight looks like I'm here
No nullifier yet. I don't know if he's going to get one in general
How can you win this game without a nullifier? Yeah such value
It's going to be what double ghost scepter and
There's
Is there a four staff on anybody?
There's a force for a cat to homie he's going to get the e on disk as well. So it's just going to have crazy value this game
You can see 9 class get spotted, not a death for him, should be safe, like thanks very much. Delicious treat for me.
7-0 on that Lena.
What a little Dom creep.
Well, here comes the bear, but it's spotted and has...
...forcing out that BKB. They could curse it, and they can't get to it.
have the damage very nicely done wasting a DKB charge now or satanic as vision it
feels though the plus is telling us something very different so it feels
like they're they're not panicking yet but it's getting to that point because it
feels like these for me it looks these supports are not getting the value that
they originally were picked for there is a big pickup though in the hex on
darts here because that allows the bear to actually kill a support but you need to get it you need to
bring it together you need to find the right moment but it's definitely you can see how the dire lineup
can absolutely just break a fight wide open you just got to get again give credit to boom boys for
just not letting that happen for 20 minutes for you again nine class double that crazy
the hack HP it's absurd another death for four little bounty hunter centaur doesn't even have
have the shard yet, still rocking 5k health there after two double edged.
How often do we see nine class bottom net worth of the entire game?
I don't think that often.
I will say though, vision if they take one good fight, that's where bounty really helps
bring you back in the game, get that net worth up.
Maybe that's what Dota Plus is expecting, Syndra.
You pick bounty hunter, surely you get a kill at some point.
A track kill, that is.
When's the last time they even got killed?
It's felt like quite a while.
I mean, it's 17.
Yeah, that is quite a while.
All right, well...
Satanic took a tower minute 20,
so the last thing Vision did on the map was 15 minutes ago.
You mean the last good thing?
Yeah.
Well, sure.
Oh, no! Ooh, the hook's on chat!
This is... wow, wait!
That was as close as it gets.
Yeah, it sounds like I had a Shiva there.
Hey, that's why Casemstone is great to just have in your inventory.
Daedalus online for Keratich. I believe he's going MKB next.
But he's going to deal a close percent, absolutely. This is going to be second-round for the game, so Roche Banner will be dropping as well as the Aegis Force, GPC with the damage, and there's no way that they can test this.
But of course they still have a 70% chance to win this, according to Dota Plus. Very important to keep that note.
The AI knows something that we do not.
Stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen.
It's gonna be a real barn burner.
The power is still up.
Would you agree that this feels like it's almost equally likely that this game is 45 minutes and 70?
It's like if boombars find one good fight now, they could just end the game.
But at the same time, if they aren't able to really take advantage,
Vision is just gonna split push the map forever between laundry dark seer and bounty hunter scouting
Vision can delay the game, but again, we talked about a boom boys. They're leaking. Just to me looks way stronger like not even close
Could be wrong. I feel the same
We didn't take into account these mines if they run into 20,000 mines they can die
Four minutes on ages for tier-a-titch
Assume you definitely I think you just give up this talk to your to write your vision
there'd be a rather
Maybe they want to get the element of surprise of boom boys thinking there's no way they choose this exact fight where we have pages
Let's see gotta pick your fights very carefully like you said one lost fight in
Advantage going to boom boys could just be game
Or at least close to it
despite the networks being dead even
by the way
that just goes to show how much
vision is getting out of the map
even though it is smaller than boom boys right now
no one snags himself an illusion root
here it's it
drawing yourself in mid
what do they want to get out of this aid
obviously the tier 2 top
do they want to try to go high ground
because like you said it's not like they're in a hurry necessarily and in
terms of high ground defense vision have a very good lineup yeah it sure is tricky
to push into techies dark seer that is pretty nasty you can just get back into
a bunch of lines and your your tower hitter primarily is Kez who is melee
so he's going to be very exposed for that exact play but maybe maybe that's
something gbk can deal with oh yeah about it for free that's a lot of a
tasty treat he's going caught oh yeah most has it it was killed though at least
the courier was imagine if the items died with the courier
you'll be the best hero in the game actually Ricky might be better does he
instigate with tricks the trades don't yeah I think so little days the
Currier did use to drop your items.
Way back to Bear versus the chicken again.
The Rastanet is breaking back to a decent amount of AP.
Laguna blade on the Bear.
Life number one is down and out.
He's down and out. No one in the mean time to be trying to run away.
They could be able to get light number one and all likely to get back to him.
They secure the Aegis.
He's all alone on heads.
The wall's right on top of him.
Grabbed him, tossed him in the middle of the tree line.
Has to pop the DKG as the terrorized gives him a little bit of extra space.
Will attempt to TP out.
Should be successful!
But they said it's just in time!
And that is exactly what Vision needed.
Critical error there, Boom Boys. You should not have pushed.
Apparently not. 70 minute game it is!
3K lead out for vision. I'm afraid to ask about this door.
We'll have to get that updated with 5 minutes on the dot. Now Bashar is there.
I guess the good news for boom boys in that situation is, yes, that was obviously a bad fight,
but there's nothing to be claimed on the map for vision except maybe it hits you.
There's no Rose, there's no T'Volk.
And they go to big kill on to notice.
GQK has the first hand, there's no one
who's feeling very confident they can stay alive
because I want them to get some blast up on to an enemy hero.
And then GQK stay standing, throwing her down on this lead.
But the Golden Brace is saving them.
She goes from no one, going to slow them down as well.
Little minus for them now, back to the center.
The first only on to the Bear.
As they get the Eul's Fence along down.
Another first crown.
Talks about the value of that shard against the Bear.
Pretty damn good.
So nobody, nobody's lives are lost
on the boom boy side after the fact that they get at least some sort of a trade and the dark seer
pretty damn high net worth so good target to kill off
no one working on a refresher already already starting to get these late game items yeah well
we're 40 minutes in this is modern dota you get six lotted at 40 minutes right nowadays doesn't
It doesn't sound like you'd like that very much.
No, it's... if you're one of those players who doesn't necessarily follow ProDota all that much throughout the year, but you watch TI specifically,
you'll see that, I mean last year was also pretty high farm, but ever since we got the big map, these 5-6 slot inventories just do happen 5-10 minutes earlier at this point.
It's just way more gold on the map, so that's the state of affairs now.
But better or worse, some people love getting six flooded faster and some people think who doesn't really other than kermudgens like you
Piece of absolute garbage is my arrow
So I'm really passionate about my late game items. Yeah, I'm a turbo player after all. Yeah, well you get six loaded every day
That's right. Don't take that away from me, Cinder and don't worry. I think
I feel like Kirit is just finished Daedalus like two minutes ago. He has MKD now. Yeah, it's playing turbo
I mean that bounty hunter supposed to give you turbo like farm
Has it really been yeah, well when you have ten kills in 40 minutes. It's not exactly riveting to be playing bounty hunter
Well, he's got a lot of courier kill center that that's add to it
Of course if that were the old couriers that gave a lot of gold and then we would have been talking but
Who's a travel to already for GPK interest?
Hello
nine class will be killed off again many deaths of that nine class nine deaths all right looking good
looking good satanic finds himself took chicken there's miyarro though with the shape onto the horse
this satanic got the bkb in retreat trying to get to the high gun motormers kisses to try to
slow them down arrow pops the python just shrugs it off so that's the showing off the
Workhorse, horse centaur. Look at these mines. Somewhere Slax is smiling. Of course he misses the green variety.
Yeah.
GPK now level 25. Heritage. Just about to get there as well. Any surprises on the talents? Hasn't, uh, I did choose Camino.
No, I mean, Lena generally picks this, I want to say, every game, and Fez will probably take the Echo Slash attack.
It used to be the Shadow Side a lot when that was 100%. I feel like ever since that went to 80, we almost exclusively see Echo Slash attack.
Alright, we're going to try for a little bit of C-Share with the Fever. They don't have Hs.
And the banners kill up almost instantly by no one.
There's one pick left.
It takes a lot of good ability.
To the face from GPK, not happy with his roadshan are almost
being killed.
Barrick and Fire just come in and swipe at that real quick.
As notice, actually, he's into do exactly that.
He's going to get stung by now.
The EOndis does strop.
There should be able to get away just fine.
Surprise, they live in the line.
Why was he the one doing that instead of one attack
from Techies on the bear or something?
Techies has infinite range, it seems.
It's a bit surprising.
You know, there's 600 attack range, but the bandit was placed relatively offensively.
They almost got a tower out of that.
Genuinely surprised that boom boys out of all times they chose to push that one.
Yeah, but I got away with it.
They got some good damage. No way to heal the tower, of course.
There's no Tramp Protector or Lich Level 25.
Does Lich still have that?
What, Lich?
Yeah, does he still have that tower?
Absolutely.
Of course.
Go look it up in case I'm an idiot.
I feel like this is a turbo special.
Yeah, he still has it right.
Yeah, Lich generally doesn't get level 25 outside of turbo.
As a matter of fact, it's a good level 25.
You need to be picked.
That's right.
Which is part of Lich's problem in this tournament.
I think it's been picked maybe one game.
Unfortunate because he had a great hole, Cinderan.
Yep.
The sinister hole, some call it.
Yes, that's right.
Very powerful.
Mr. Gays late game with X.
Very good.
Shiva is now for Miero.
He is six slotted on the Centaur.
Not really much to be upgraded here except for the upgrade of blink.
No, you could get rid of the pipe.
Yeah, that's true, I guess.
Night class, is this another death for you, good sir?
Trying to get some cover with the mines, they will blow up.
The Shadow Realm will reach him, curse crown onto the high ground,
and he's just gonna get echoed, slash by Tiritish.
My goodness, the damage coming on him is absurd.
And to be...
It's like everything.
It's not really good cause, the ball is just planting me mines,
I will eat those up for dinner any time, brother.
So both supports are dead for vision.
It's like he's Tidehunter trying to pick up fish, but unfortunately, he doesn't get
any stats from it.
Definitely not getting damage, though.
It's actually a really weird game to watch, isn't it?
Boom Boys have had to spend half the game chasing 9-class around to kill him off,
The other half stay up to 10.
And after the exact wall onto two heroes, there's the cart, though, to save Kez, rather.
We are off.
We'll use the stampede to help get him away, but just like that.
And this is interesting because Roche is up, and now you don't have a BKB on your Kez.
Yep, true that.
And you go for it.
They seem to think yes.
Cold Embrace to get him back to a respectable amount of HP.
No vision, try to contest.
Roche's ult comes out, they have to scan.
This is so fast, it plays gross at this.
Nine Class.
It's too much.
Like a five second roast.
Roast number three for Boom Boys.
Nine Class is too late.
Now they have the Refresher Shard,
along with another Roast Banner.
Jeez as well, why not?
This time they...
I mean considering how they pushed Pub last time,
surely they're gonna repeat the success up there
in this time with an Aegis and a better Banner.
Might actually even get some real estate this time.
I feel like Vision just never has 10 kills with a 45. It's so unusual.
This would be an impressive victory for them. Can we look at the Dota Plus probability by
any chance here? We'd love to see an update on that. All three roaches have gone away
at Boom Boys, but it's not enough to give them the lead according to Dota Plus. Why
do they hate Boom Boys so much? Do they not own Dota Plus? Does that have something
to do with it, Syndra? Looks like they do to me, GPK, very high level on his lean-up.
Well, if you want to look at it from a possible perspective, this is the highest win rate
that boomboys have had since minute four.
It's less than that. Let me look at it two or three minutes. Or is it a huge exaggeration,
Syndra?
This is just a potentially, at this point, a one-fight game. Like, if you get a
clean opener for either team, you can completely obliterate the opposition. A three or
Form and vacuum into a combo will be devastating on the side of boom boys any good curse any set up with you have so many
That's what's so nice about the boom boys lineup is that there's plenty of players that can play off of each other
So whoever finds the opening it doesn't even matter like centaur could start will oh could get a catch
Lena could even start for herself
And it's a rare occasions. Maybe the curse can be the setup look nine class will he be dying again
Yeah, it's on a bit of a mission, but this time he's giving Invis to the bear.
That's right.
GPK spotted Miera though in the vicinity, they're not going to bite off too much, they're getting
that instant bash from the Shadow Walk.
It's actually really, really strong.
You give the Shadow Walk to the bear, it opens with the bash, then it immediately
silver edges and breaks you and then it abysses you as a crazy killer combination around
the map but gotta find the openings. How good is the break this game though is
noticed, gonna be noticed, no pun intended, it actually was technically as BKB
is run the way. The break, I mean it's not really that big of a deal, I thought at
least you get the you know the silver it's slow is obviously great. True,
yeah that's actually one of the better additions on the last year I would say
to especially an item that's just been around for a long time that has been
picked up pretty consistently I will say throughout its lifetime.
Definitely good against Spock. They don't have it on the side of Boom Boys, but against things like Surge,
this capture movement speed against Spearbreaker, hilarious to see who can try to charge.
I was mentioning here, if you're a fantasy fan watching this game, Satanic has close to 900 CS, so if you have them on the last hits, that's good.
Nice.
Very good.
It's getting a scum right off the bat.
You can try to keep them alive.
You know, I guess the hook's top off, but no one able to close the gap here with the Mortimer's Kisses on the backline.
Backline Titanic is the leady one hero there's the cart being used but nobody's inside it
Finally, there's a little critter inside it, it's a chicken!
Trying to run away, the Aegis gets claimed while he's inside the cart
The vision
Looking very good in this high ground defense, they get the Aegis, they get a buyback out of a support
They didn't even damage the tower
Dota Plus knows something, so they're very smart
That should pay for Dota Plus
That's right
Wait, it's went up for a book! What the- what is happening?
This doesn't make any sense! Are they trolling us?
Hahaha!
He says!
Well, we're getting to that point of the game point.
Alright, boom boys, you need to go down 10k so you can finally take the lead for Dota
Plus.
I suppose it's a game time thing where we're getting later and later, so Loan Druid's
expectancy is dropping off a cliff now.
Okay, but considering the fight we just saw, I don't know how big of a concern
that is.
Satanic got his third kill, the game at 50 minutes, he's having a wonderful time.
3-0-1.
Back to the jungle.
I mean how much I always think of loan loan drew is such a fascinating concept because you can get 12 slot
We never see it though. They always just end up deleting items that they have on the bear replacing it
Why do we never see loan drew at participating syndrome? Is he scared? Yeah
He's a fight with his hero. He has a big career kill. You're on no BKB
Or a few minutes. Sorry go ahead. No, it's just if you're fighting with your hero
You can't farm jungle, so you know carry players got to hit the creeps
Boots of travel
It gets instantly bashed, this old and blown up huge kill for vision and that is 100 seconds of no Lena
Godlike streak no longer for GPK his first death of the entire unit's a costly one. That kill was worth
2007 what's that?
2200 gold.
Now let's look at Dota plus to see how much Boom Boys has gone up in win probability after the death on to lean up.
It's gone down slightly unbelievable 60-40 per vision. I can't believe it, Cinderan. Incredible display.
Yeah, GPK that is a costly, costly, but he's had an incredible game so far.
The good news is they seemingly are not able to use this for much on the side of vision.
just more farming. I suppose the bottom way was actually across the river, but
looks like here's his little press a button to deal with that.
We'll be able to eat his agatom scepter here pretty shortly and what is he
opting to buy next on the chicken? Looks like Satanic. Not the player, the
item of course. Goodbye Satanic, the player. It'll be a pretty unfair game
6v4 they transfer him that would be one of the most expensive players I think yep
There's now an upgraded blink or noticed and he is essentially six-slotted yeah swift link to the bear
All right well how much room to go to these games still looks like refresher into nullifier for notice
I'm not sure what the back backs. This is where we get into
late game dopes of course
What if you could buy an item for 5,000 gold that goes in your backpack permanently and it makes switching faster
Like from six seconds to two
Do you think people would buy it for five K? I mean late it's late enough. Yeah turbo money, but I guess
Thank you just adding to the great resume that I have of course great ideas 10 K lead division
All the bling in an instant, a pencil from Satanic, and Wyvern just gets deleted.
What the hell is that bling?
Did not have vision, but surprise, vision we're up there waiting.
It is... man, it's gotta be miserable to play against Lone Druid plus Bounty Hunter at this game stage.
Like, it's hard to cross the river because there could be mines everywhere, Bounty could be scouting you.
The Lone Druid's gonna kill your supports immediately.
I mean, that reaction time from Satanic.
Yeah.
Man, what it's like to be young.
I don't, I barely remember anymore.
Definitely wasn't that fast, though.
You probably did some good obflicks back in the day.
I definitely did.
Thank you very much for pointing that out.
I appreciate that.
It should be a professional counter-strike player, of course.
That's right.
Very good back in the day when you could quick scope
reliably.
God, great days.
No longer, though.
You miss every counter-strike before this one.
notice he's gonna backpack when he gets these items, I guess we'll get that
yeah
VPK in the meantime we're just gonna swap out the disc right when it's propped you
can just swap it out for a fresher and then BKB get swap them or that yeah one
of the other keep one in swap the other one in yeah a few refresh depending on
what type of fight you're imagining
And for TPK, he's already consumed his axe and a six-slotted on top of that.
How bad is this shard that nobody buys it?
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like this is undervalued, no?
I mean, it seemed like it's decent.
Get 12 stacks instead of 7, so that's a lot more attack and movement speed.
And he's banking on Tormentor?
I mean, I guess.
But you could argue at this point that if you buy it yourself that if you kill tormentor you give gold to your teammates
Which is actually better when you're almost six slotted right because you're you're capping out
And it's better to give your supports an extra few hundred so they can get their e on discs for example
You can see both supports behind that now. He did buy the shark
Roast number four is up
Will boom boys get the fourth roast of the game
And most importantly will they be able to hit a tower with it if they do
I was going to say more importantly, Dota Plus will believe in them at any point in this game.
We've seen more and more red mines on the map as well.
Pucallus is expanding his territory.
Hello?
I'm going to get this Arcane where they find themselves a techie.
They force out the E on his tobacco onto the tomb here.
I'm going to use the Carthage to get away.
This character is on the other side all alone.
That is fairly awkward.
Big miss from Karatich and he attempts to get out with that grappling thaw and now Vision smelling blood in the water.
See Roche is up and I like some things that have been expended for Boom Boys that Vision will have a decent shot here to get this.
They're starting to play so many mines around the river so Boom Boys were to contest as it could get really spicy.
Inside the pit, can Vision get their first Roche of the game?
Dota plus believe it or not all the way and now we're finding out why.
The two boys may have something to say about that, but something to depend on to bear only the one, though.
Now the instant Hex onto Miero has 6000 health on this chonky Centaur.
They can't get blocked out by these annoying brambles.
It is nighttime, but Roche will swap to his winter home in the southern side of the map.
I think that's gonna lead the way.
Notice Johnson they get the hacks, they get the Abyssal Front Static focusing on the center.
He's really tanky though.
Of course that's just how to keep him alive.
He uses the cart.
So he's trying to put comedy into the curse on the two though.
If Bear will give the hook some half attacking, some good layering starts on to this Bear.
Notice BKB still avoiding all of this damage.
They kill off the Bear with the chicken, but another Bear will be out very shortly.
And let's say on the high ground that Bramble is preventing this from going any further from Boom Boy's side.
That's going to break things up for the time being.
Titanic has that second bear optic and it goes for the roast.
I don't know if boom boys can get here in time.
The mines are burying.
Even the creeps are against boom boys.
Go to plus.
The creeps, what's next?
Finally no one getting the first agents.
They're trying to sell out Alina.
Back to them into the missile, but there's an art in the time to save them.
But the snow walk on to the center.
And now they get the first one on the hike of a GP task.
Nowhere to go.
Most likely getting in biz will be able to get out potentially trying to TP out and he's done
But three dead for boom boys and vision in firm control of this game
Dota plus new all along
There's a damage rune at the top side of the river as well
Vision can find it this flu definitely on force buybacks here without question
Low injury can obviously push very very quickly and he will find that rune
there now hitting for about five under the pot normal double siege creep as well
so it makes it even easier
Rosh banner is on Ducalis
see where they off to use it
Tennis, Shared
Over the communication from Kurokoi to the LSE to Maximons in 2
Refresher now poppin and sterilized from that right moment of scare
to absolutely destroy notice he gets filled up but it's gonna be a trade
for the chicken, the satanic bear does fall.
There's another bear in the tank and refresher, so he technically still has two bears to go.
They're likely to try and protect this roach banner while this bear comes back off cooldown.
The GPK is able to kill it.
It is very far away though, as this roach banner gets upgraded with each roach, it's
farther and farther.
Does it actually upgrade past this point?
Like how?
Does it scale infinitely?
I don't remember. It's not very often we see games get like five or six roaches.
That'd be hilarious. It tends to be global at some point. I do just want them to game.
I think it does just upgrade every time.
Not sure. You're the analyst here.
Don't know everything though. Roche banner will be claimed.
Oh they got a tower! They did. Congratulations to Vision.
turning to the ground, as Miero will take a couple of glops to the bear survive.
No.
Okay, so that's bear number two.
Yep, he could refresh now, but he's choosing to hold onto that refresher.
Knowing that boom boys aren't going to try to put any pressure, so probably risk
the reward of getting a bear right now versus just waiting.
And at 70 seconds away, you'll still have Aegis at that point.
Still have cheese.
have the advantage. Can we take a look at the Dota win probability please? Dota plus that is.
Great storyline we've been covering since minute three of this game.
Yeah, you've been obsessed with this.
70, this is where it started. Look at how accurate it is. 72-28 at minute three. It was
essentially the same thing. Yep. Just masterful coding from Val.
It's pretty crazy. It's been an hour and we've taken one tower in the base.
And we're one minute away from Tier 5.
Yep.
So a lot of mines on the map.
Alright, so what are we looking for?
Obviously Stygian Desilator for the carry.
Hold on, there's a block of cheese cinderant.
Oh, that's pretty interesting.
In the backpack of Nodist.
Yeah.
So, Tier 5, she wants Stygian Desilator for Kez and for Lone Druid without question.
Carbonizing for Lina is probably decent.
Obviously Dizzune Bloodrate is also incredible for like half the heroes.
Especially Darkseer would be wild.
Almost every hero in this game wants Dizzune Bloodrate actually.
Bounty Hunter doesn't, Laundry doesn't, and Kez I suppose doesn't, but everybody
else.
But that Raptor Dance could be huge.
It could.
It could also deal 2,000 more damage for the Bessell.
Yeah, that would be a little bit better.
Yeah.
These items come out for Satanic out of nowhere gets an AC gets boost to travel
First level 30 of the game is
Oh, Mr. No one. Oh, no one. Wow. It's a bit surprising that he ended up getting level 30 first
Yeah, he was off to kind of a rough start this game. Yep
60 minutes is upon us
Yeah, no one is doing the hybrid build on a snapfire now
So he has both as the Daedalus in his backpack currently normal is going to be able to
to get the value out of both versions of Snapfires.
And I'm curious to see how he's going to approach fights
if he wants to go in for a big burst of physical damage first
or play off the logs and then do it.
As we've seen from the previous fights,
he doesn't seem that compromised when he cookies in.
He's generally just able to waddle away
after a DKB running.
Yeah, on the arrow.
Being pursued by Satanic, as the decelerator,
with the Hulker's Kizanon, what is this?
And the Ash Centaur, almost dead, uses the U of the Front Stair alive here on the Rump to stand key.
Here it gets the pressure damage out from the bear, gets the rapidness with a good amount of HP back.
The bear does die, but the war will come.
We'll either cheese or load this with past security.
That was a little HP though.
Two BKBs for a bear.
Man, vision used this for any reason.
I think they might just wait for the next Rosh.
I could take six minutes.
So Stygian or Satanic?
Oh my God, notice gets Duzun Bloodwright.
I mean that's S double plus here as one great analyst would say Cinderent for Darkseer specifically.
That vacuum is absurdly large now.
Personally for no one he was not offered the Duzun Bloodwright for Snapfire, obviously insane on that hero,
but he will settle for Spider Legs for now.
I mean would he want that though?
Yeah.
You still will take that even though you're transitioning to more right click?
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, you have so many spells still that you are going to use in the alien, they're just incredible.
Oh, baby.
Divine Raphir!
For no one.
Got a Fallen Sky on 9 class, Harmonizer on check use.
All he needs is an Aegis.
I don't think they're gonna fight until they get Aegis now.
How many 2.57 on the radiant?
They have three.
So Book of the Dead on Kaz, that's a real stinker.
Yeah, that's not great.
Witchbane on Lena and Centaur with a Minotaur horn.
Okay, Witchbane, what does that take off this game?
The Root and...
All the Surges, Track.
Yeah?
It's pretty good.
Wait, is it self-caster?
It's an AoE and it targets all enemies and allies,
so it's a double-way only.
It's pretty good here, but I honestly still think
ideally GPK is not the one carrying this item.
If you want to have it, that's fine. I think the lever needs to have
Visible and Bloodwright or a Deso as well.
GPK is doing serious right-click damage, so yes, it's nice to have a Deso on
Kez if he were to be offered it, but I think they have one on board.
GPK, Divine Rapier.
How much does he need for buyback?
And Divine.
Two of the Master Durance, you have a brain?
4k Surge, plus he's almost there.
Okay, good.
He's about a thousand, I think.
The Minotaur horn for Mira, so yeah everybody I believe has a tier 5 now, Fallen Sky from
9th class so he can die a little bit easier.
Oh, I didn't realize you didn't have Blink, I mean maybe Blink's not the most common thing
on the county.
Oh, it's been pretty popular this tournament actually, like horses.
Basically has it now though.
With the Fallen Sky.
Good.
Okay, good.
Daedalus, wait. He had it, Daedalus, didn't he?
On who?
He had double Daedalus!
What the hell, no one! Double Daedalus divine, alright.
Yeah, we're going full physical now.
Alright.
This is the Game Ender on Sapphire.
This is gross how much damage it does when you blink in.
That is disgusting.
Obviously, we want the Aegis.
And we are two minutes from Roche spawning.
So, no one currently has an Amp damage room. When that expires, his damage is going to come up to this 200 less.
Currently, you will hit for 700 per attack, with split shot, super high crit chance.
He could just blink and then wipe the floor with almost all of Boom Boy's Hero's in a vacuum.
It's dirty.
I believe the next fight will be Roche, but of course these teams don't know when he'll
spawn and he's a relatively late spawn timer, so they're gonna have to continually scout
it out and he's now a divine rafter for GPK, so I assume he does have flyback as well.
Actually does not, 200 all the way.
Imagine a fight breaking out right now.
I imagine he died without flyback now, that would be crazy.
needs one creep wave to get that buyback secured but it's not really of access to anything just yet.
Are there any level 30s that you think are worth mentioning?
I mean what's the 25 on Dark Willow? I don't even know.
It's either terrorized as 500 damage or Bedlam hits two more targets. The terrorized one is
quite good. It's quite a bit of damage when you're hitting two or three targets in the fight.
The Wyvern 25 is very good, the Splinter Blast stun.
Yeah, that's crazy.
We might get there, Kez is almost 30, that's obviously great.
It's just more damage.
You called it.
It's gonna be a seven minute game, Senator.
Close enough, we round up.
This could, I mean, again.
You tell me, how long do you think this game's gonna be?
Uh, I'm gonna say 78 minutes.
Okay.
And I don't know who's gonna win so what a plus does though, so should I even question it anymore?
If Roshan up my boss
He spotted that we're doing a lot of damage along with GP day, so they delete once before there's that buyback though
Gonna buyback actually as they can see if herl has brought out a lot of this bear
They're already getting the bear shit by himself
Not done, now we have all the role of getting a stun lock.
This is the damage there, it's the arrow, it's the hook up on the last moment.
Trying to save his Lena, there's a back wall bow and that's...
There's the Divine Rapier on the deck as no one just completely instagits on the Sapphire.
Double kill for him.
And surely they're gonna force these buybacks out.
A couple have come out though for vision.
Obviously they would love to get Rosh and they're gonna decide who gets the Divine Rapier.
Why not Techie?
gonna use the spell amp version and now with the one lane it's a depending the
one lane doesn't matter that much at this point but the aegis i would assume
snapfire ends up it's not okay goodbye back sure yes it's a good call
all right that was one rape you're down transfer to techies as you mentioned
very strong still definitely not over yet but that was a huge blow to boom boys
And of course this is the problem when you're getting to this late in the game against the laundry that he can force
The enemy to rotate one or two heroes just to deal with the bear up top
They did that they still lost the barracks and then simultaneously they get the clean Lena jump and that
First instead it's like gonna beat nine class into the ground two minutes of no
and he's running away now.
Satanic is off the offensive lane.
He's actually destroyed here because it's no one.
Again, with the damage of the double Divide Rapier,
double Daedalus, my goodness.
He is the true carry now for vision.
And certainly gonna force out the Bi-Vac on Tic-Tacs
and Satanic gets a second layer of bears
looking for the Megas now.
They should certainly need the Bi-Vac on the center.
He's gonna come back on Nassar, the nice Megas.
Now we're favor on vision.
There's head inside the cart.
Mechanics Bear will likely fall.
That is not an entity that is holding a Divine Rapier, so you can just respond that badly.
Another Divine Rapier comes out for GP. How many do you have in the game? For God's sake. Is that four?
I count four.
Four, yeah. Only four?
Maybe there's something on the ground, something. I need more. I need more than four.
Maybe Roche will start dropping Divine Rapiers here pretty soon.
It is pretty insane to watch the damage I'll put in the snapfire though like that. It's just something else
They're gonna wait for this respawn of nine class
No one was juggling his rapiers eventually goes both physical I think just made a mistake probably the right choice
Waiting for 2,500
He has an AC. I don't know what he's gonna do with that
They still have block of cheese.
How do you, okay, I was going to say, do you just use it?
Yeah.
Get this barrier, 20 seconds for bounty.
So that's 500 extra barrier now for,
is that five minutes, 300 seconds, okay?
That is five minutes.
Very good.
Boom boys, down 66K.
Let's look at the Dota win probability one more time.
Is it 70, 30 somehow?
All right, not quite. 97.3. That seems about right.
Mega creeps.
Mega creeps in 70k gold lead and still 3% chance.
That's interesting.
So the plus wants to make it... I mean, doesn't want to make it obvious that it can just
predict the future in general.
Gotta give him a bone here and there.
No one will get an arcane rune.
Now they have five up and running in terms of buybacks.
I wonder what doesn't matter, it's really the Darkseer.
Four minutes from his and bounty as well.
And on the other side only a single buyback for Miero.
Miero, look at that damage.
I can't, the pull the ranger is going to save him though.
This centaur is not tanky at all.
If the bear is destroying the base,
online Gatoro, they get both here for tapers
in the blink of an eye.
And now the ancient fully exposed
and vision looking to close the book on this first game.
It's not even a series.
I may be the first game of this best of three
in the upper bracket here at TI.
Maybe say Tynik indeed did watch that game
and he was just like, I can do that too.
That's he's certainly doing it.
He hasn't died yet.
That looked fun.
That's swifling for no one.
Okay, that's right here, they should fit.
Okay, very good.
Nine class will die again.
He doesn't have buyback, so is this another 90 seconds wait time?
Look how many blinds are in them.
Yeah.
It's actually crazy, he's covering
the entire pathway across to the roast pit in the top half is covered the bottom half around the rune is covered
Their own triangle stairwell is covered
Their base is coming. This is even if you somehow took a good fight on boom boys team
Still plenty of issues you saw the eon desk they're already propped on the willow wyvern almost got his proc too
They still have fortification for boom boys.
Is that another divine rapier?
Is that six?
Is that just going to be on the ground somewhere in case he dies?
I think he's just going to keep it in base.
Probably for the best.
Install points if he gets it on him.
Third one, just swap it instead of BKB.
Kiga chat.
Not going to happen.
Unfortunately, we're not going to see the agonist scepter for Sapphire.
We'd love to see the bear just being thrown to the other side of the base to just kill off the anxious.
I mean, you could have definitely chosen to buy that over a backpack right here, or a base right here if you will.
It's a good, it's a decent save, I would say.
I mean, it's also an interesting initiation idea to be able to toss in the bear.
Whoa, dang!
Did that just happen?
Is that a single shot?
Oh my god! Poor save!
We didn't even have time to pop Shadow Realm.
Yep, late game Dota.
Uh, yeah, so Willow has 11 armor,
and Deso gives him minus 13, and it's propped before you do the damage.
So if no one crits for 2500, it's 2500 pure.
Yeah.
Willow has 24.
Well, the arrow pops the,
oh, wasn't the BKB, it was just neutral, I know,
but I'm gonna keep nine class out of the base.
They have to stick around for this freaking bear.
So annoying to deal with.
And all vision have to do is wait for the creeps
to get close, they have Roche banner as well.
I mean, how do boom boys defend this?
Moonshark for Satanics, bear.
Doesn't wanna go for divine, cause it is dying.
As, oh, he has double, 8-1.
and then another is in inventory.
Alright, what's on the actual loan drew at hero?
He has refresher and off the ring.
Yeah, that's standard.
You just don't want to play with this hero, ever?
No.
Not when you can jungle.
You can have 6 heroes in the base.
Yup.
Well, now that he has Moonshark, he is going to push this real fast!
Here we go for vision, trying to end this game in our 1GPK showing himself.
Notice it's off the vacuum, there's the damage that he has as procs.
Now they go back away.
Rochefanner plays on my high ground.
Is there a bear going for Gage and again?
He heals against him.
Then Puff the Beast, KB will do so.
Just see if there's a place of damages enough to kill off the bear.
The agent is almost dead already.
The vision have had to expend basically anything to kill it.
It's a jumping from no one.
Trying to finish off the beast and jump there before the Gage and...
He's going for it!
But look at the vibrate here!
What the hell is happening?
Wait, was that...
They buy back on Molina.
No one thought he could just finish the game.
But no, says GPK.
That was really unnecessary.
You could have just waited for the next bear to do this again instead of just throw away two rapiers.
Alright, let's look at Dota Win probability against Indiret just to make sure that things
have not gone crazy in favor of vision. Here we go. It's gone down 1% since that play.
It's still understandable considering they don't have fortification and it just takes
probably a single bear just to kill this thing.
Effectively now all you need to do is get waves in the enemy base,
fling in with the bear, Puppy could be an ended. And they can only deal with it by cursing
the bear or instakilling it in a stun with Kez. And Crimson, that's true. I don't know if
that is enough though. I feel like the bear hits way harder than the titan decelerator.
I bet they wish they picked the Lich, Cinder and level 25 heal. Very strong.
That's right. They might have got there. And the Bistle Blades are coming out
some more ways to deal with the bear. A Lincoln Sphere would be, I guess, a Lotus
save sold all his items except his blink daggers by a this long way lost
Because the only way you ever win this game is by chain stunning the bear now. How do they
How do they communicate who's stunning the bear first? They don't have much time because it just dies so fast the ancient that is
An order of priority whoever sees capital standard first just goes I think
I don't think they're gonna be back up with all five snapfire will have I believe a single
and you must have a radar in face, you bought that early, that's on this courier
and Roche will be up in a minute so no reason for vision to wait
there's no reason for them to go for it when they can just wait for Roche
well the reason to go is that Glyph is down and the
and is on 1.5 HP
that's a good reason I suppose
but you need to put also weight
smokes on both sides
and vision
Again, attempt number three at the Ancient.
Nine plus, and now Vision notices jumping in and no one jumps in.
And then six, and he gets a hit from the left to the right.
The Bears can get first in the last moment.
So they have them as they pass the pass again.
The Sun again!
Down goes the Bear.
Here's another one.
Divine Rapier sticks a bit of skin in favor of Boom Boy.
They're just collecting Divine Rapiers.
Thirty-five pay-leaf provisions gone down by half.
That was Curse and Crimson.
All right, they're going again another bear up and running does not have BKB though. Yeah, that was the Bears BKB now
They can control it in other ways
And then end it looks like if they're gonna go for it. I mean that was a buyback for the Sapphire right?
Yeah, no one fine. Okay, they just seem to come in from opposite angles. There's the AOE surge
They actually can finally bring this game to an end.
77 and a half minutes, they take it.
What an awesome game number one of the series. Holy shit.
They look so calm about it too.
They've been in this situation many a time.
They knew this was inevitable. At some point they were going to break through.
That looked very... I mean, at the same time it was probably very controlled and calm for them
to play the map the way that they did the last 30 minutes.
That last five minutes seemed a little bit dicey, but at the end of the day, they were in control for most of it, so a nice game from vision.
Alright, Shee-Bark!
Thank you so much! I'm so proud of you, everyone!
Again, we are treated to here again with Team Vision vs. Boom Boys.
It is vision that take the win at the end of this one.
Boy, that they have to fight hard for that one.
For a very long time, this game really looked like it was in the hands of Boom Boys.
I, ah, you know, like the way the game goes, the harder it gets because snapbar gets the transition into a right click call.
You get techies and stuff, mind's literally everywhere, where it then becomes dangerous because you're just centaur conscious, clean them all out anymore.
It's just there everywhere. I mean, the bear is just getting more and more and more and more annoying to the point that he's now, I mean, he's sweeping your towers in like two seconds.
It's unbelievable how much his team scales. And Hallie Marshall, hold on, I can't believe they held.
I can't believe they held for that long saver that was intense. Yeah, and I want to thank vision for ending the game
This was amazing
Especially because I feel like some of the teams they would be like, okay guys no need to risk this. Let's just farm
I'm not putting anything for falcons, but
Yeah, I really love to see that they had a vision to like end the game, you know vision obviously
to like force the cliff with the snapfire and then ran it back when they
don't have cliff on on boom boys and it worked out and it was lovely to see
yeah they just let the game went on too long felt like a boom boys they had a
period of time where they were always reacting to the bounty I don't know if
they needed to kill the bounty after so many times I like that they got about a
gem early like 15-16 minute they got a gem on Wyvern to play the nighttime
And after that, they had a timing where they had jammed, they had the pipe on centre.
I felt like they needed to just group up together, find a way to just hit ours,
and just not keep it back because they constantly keep it back to kill the bounty,
and they were not progressing on the map, and they couldn't really use the timings that they had to actually get more of the map.
Yeah, then you come into a situation as we see where they have to just be at the entrance, sit there.
At this point you're screwed.
But I think it takes a lot of courage to be like, okay, I will feed them to the vines.
We don't care guys.
We have 60k lead and let's just go again when the lift is down.
Because at this point of the game, the only thing that matters is glit.
And also props to Boom Boys for buying Crimson Guard and like thinking of creative stuff
like that to try and defend.
But at this point, it's just impossible.
Yeah, as soon as that glit puts you through, it's like ISGG, because that's they just
throwing bodies at that point.
They're fine losing the rapier because as long as you get the glyph, there's literally nothing they can do, nothing.
And that's another lone druid that is unscathed. Zero deaths for Satanic, of course, for his main bear, because his disciple bear had the tough one that definitely was slaughtered quite a few times during that game.
But this is a very tough game for me to decide who would be MVP in a game like this, Windsor, because...
It can't be Vaunty.
Would it be Static or would it be in this case, no one snuff fire?
He probably had to just give it to the long journey.
In the end, the long journey was the one that cleaned up the game.
He was the one that circuit the win at the end of the day.
But even though I'm kind of like joking about the Baunty,
but I felt like the Baunty,
even though he looked like he didn't do anything that game,
but he made the opponents, I feel like react in a way
way where it was really bad for boom boys and whatever they were doing. They bought the
gem, I was fine with that, but I don't think they needed to just keep going back. The way
they killed him took too much effort. Like the way you deal with bounty, you have to figure
out a way to deal with him by not using so many here, because they were TPing, he was
back, once you TPed, two calls back to kill a bounty hunter, he's like whatever, you
know.
I felt like they were handling it well for a while because they, every time they
went for a gank, there was always sentries on their like main farming camps. So like
when the kids would see Bounty walking towards him, he just ran away.
And I thought that was enough, you know, you don't...
But then again, there was one death on the Lina, remember?
They were like, the game was like one 2K lead,
but then the Lina died one time in the jungle on the right
because of the high ground ward,
and the game became 10K goalie, just off one death.
Yeah, for me, the MVP was puppy,
as I feel like they just played incredible as a team.
This was not an easy game to win with their draft.
They didn't really have many stunts as we could see.
Like in the middle portion of the game, it did seem like BoomBoys might take it and it was really hard for vision to play.
However, they... I don't know how they do it, but they just make it work regardless.
No matter what the heroes they have, they play so, they play stable and they make it work.
And eventually, you know, they go to their timing and it's easy-peasy from there.
You don't know about the easy-peasy part, but they did get there in the end.
And you mentioned the nose stuns.
And Ray, I believe you're going to take a little bit of a deep dive into that one.
deep dive of some clips where we just see the early game movement by team vision where they attempt to
do anything. But it's so difficult because they just don't have the control needed to keep any heroes
within their damage. Like in this fight, I think we end up seeing as the Sapphire kisses come out,
it's like you hit, you hit this and that's it. They can just disengage with the Wyvernall.
We want to see the kisses but there's nothing to just keep them in place and they end up
really getting nothing. And this is kind of a repetitive thing throughout the game, like
like, you know, cats can just walk in and say, oh, we want to kiss him.
But then he just leaves.
There's no stuns, no control.
Here again, they're going to go.
They make a big smoke play with a bunch of heroes to kill Kiritage.
There's that Sentry I talked about keeping his camps safe.
And with that, he's just going to leave.
And there's nothing they can do.
They don't have a blink-star.
They don't have good catch.
Like, Bally has to walk up and catch them here again.
They're going to go onto their cats, and he just leaves
because they don't have anyone to initiate.
And I found it so difficult for them to ever get anything that they will
over extending and then ending up feeding or they were just wasting resources wasting time wasting farm
And then they just had to back off and reset and that's how the game ended up in this extremely
Passive state in the mid to late game whether it was just okay. Let's just wait for 70 minutes. I guess
Now waiting we did and there was there was also another fight
That was a little bit of a turning point after which we thought you know what?
There's more in this game than just boom boys going high ground and taking this one
and that's a fight you wanted to highlight, which was a pretty active fight.
Yeah, it did seem like Boom Boys might take the game up until this happened.
It was the KS Aegis. They popped the Aegis and I want people to pay attention to that there specifically.
They open really nicely on the tower, they kite back beautifully, they vacuum him back.
Okay, he's under the tower. They could use some stunnels on him, but they know that they have VKB.
So then he's hitting him he got the four stacks and it maybe it's on purpose
Maybe it's it just lined up really nice, but now he gets this fifth one. Oh my god
This was so perfect and they got the cast skill and it it felt much more easier afterwards
It did and then you have a long druid and I think you enter we kind of saw the writing on the wall
Once this game dragged on as it did. Yeah, I just became so difficult to play on the map
They didn't really have a lot of pools and loan to a late game.
You just they're just a sitting that there's nothing much you can do.
There's nothing much you can do as a boom boys.
One thing they had to deal with earlier on as well.
We mentioned him already nine class had a great bounty hunter performance
to see what exactly he was doing while we were watching some of the action.
We're heading over to purge.
Thank you, cheaper.
Yeah, bounty honor is a little bit underwhelming looking when you're watching
the stream, but I walked up in some details and I promise you
He was doing some really big things this game. Let's take a look at some of the clips now
Here's a really obvious skank. They had a great landing stage obviously we caught that on the mainstream
But set up this nice kill on kata only here. He can go roam the map. He can get kills with iron shell
That's all really good stuff
But look what he was doing to limit kez's farm in this game
He's moving across the map to block camps and this was the main camp that he blocked most of the times here
When he was trying to shut down what kez was doing and they even forced a century response
from the winter, wherever it is well, which is great.
A little bit of economic damage,
but let's talk a little bit about a skill build.
I was talking to Jemson last night at dinner,
and he actually really likes bounty hunter,
and that's probably because the Invis duration
when you max this ability out goes up by a lot,
and the stun duration goes up by a lot,
such that you can basically stun somebody twice
using the skill at an early point in the game.
Your short end doesn't go through creeps anymore,
so it's not really that important to level,
but what he basically gets out of it
is movement speed and duration.
So he's basically able to do pretty much
whatever he wants to on the map because he's so fast.
He's even gonna clear this camp here
that Kez is going to want to kill.
And this is all obviously fantastic for him
because that's less farm for Kez as the game goes on.
He rotates over, he even comes back 80 seconds
or 60 seconds later to block the camp another time.
He takes a little bit of damage here, but not that much.
And ultimately, this is really important
because what this does for Kez is
when he's going from the creep wave here,
all the way here and back, it takes him way more time
when there's not two camps in the middle part.
So nine classes basically reducing the gold game that he's getting.
He can also use bounty hunter to very easily break smokes.
He easily disengages from this fight with his invisibility.
They ended up fighting afterwards.
It didn't go perfect, but that's okay.
And he keeps doing the same thing.
He just keeps blocking this camp.
Kiritich never gets to farm it.
And that's why his network was so far behind for such a long period of time.
And he eventually does go for ganks as well.
We saw some of these fights happen where he's going for two stuns against the kez here.
And while his team rotates over and these are really scared for Kiritich,
which makes his game harder, but ultimately they do secure this kill here at the 16-minute mark.
And he's just got to deal with this the whole game. It's a little bit hard to keep an eye on it
because bounty's off doing annoying things by himself, but his impact was huge
to make sure the laundry was always ahead in this game.
Thank you, Pert. If I'm caretich, I am going to ask for a ban for this bounty hunter because
that seems Saber like that was just really wrecking his early game.
Yeah, I would not want to be the case in that situation.
It is the worst when people block their camps and there isn't much to do about it as well,
because once the camp is blocked, you're like, oh man, now I have to wait another minute and
maybe that camp I get to farm. Eventually they had to bring a bunch of heroes to bot lane
and then Bounty is also happy if you overcome it just too many resources to this area.
Yeah, very nicely played by 9-class, he for sure deserved the win.
Yeah, very good game by Team Vision.
This is a team that we expected to do well,
and this first game was maybe a little bit more rocky
than what we thought would be the case.
I was very curious to learn how Vision themselves felt
before heading into this series.
We are going to find out because we are going to listen to Zatonic and no one.
I think Groups wasn't that easy because they played versus Falcons,
And I think it was hard games.
And the first two games that we played, it was really rough for us.
Because I think we got like super jet lag, all the stuff, like no sleep, we were tired.
We didn't play that good, I would say, versus Team Resilience.
When we started the game against Boomboys, it was much easier for us.
And we sped it as well, it felt like we were on something good already.
What do you expect from the team?
And to me, coming to the tournament, I have no expectations.
From coming much against Boom Boys and the playoffs, I think it's going to be no matter what, hard match,
because I think they're a really strong team.
The playoffs are super different, so we expect, I would say, really good data.
I'm not sure about them, but I think others can, like, beat for sure.
I consider our team the best, so I think maybe other teams will watch a new place
and it's going to be harder for us.
We just won another tournament, we came to TI and we are unbeatable at the group stage,
but who cares, let them see.
But the main point that we should just keep improving and keep getting better,
so we're going to destroy them.
I think it's going to be one of the hardest TI's of competing through all the years
because I think all top 8 teams are capable of winning this TI
and they're actually like old storm teams and surfers.
Stagnant of Fall, I'm really happy to be here right now
in this year because I think it's something special
gonna be, the Shanghai Arena.
Last TI 2019 here was super amazing.
And yeah, thank you all guys for the cheering for us.
I want to say guys, thank you for cheering up for us.
We'll try our best to win this TI
and keep cheering up for us.
Thank you.
I love the duality of that we got the 18 year old Carrie and the 28 year old Midlaner 10
years in between them and a lot of wisdom and I'll dot two different sides of the coin
for sure with confidence and also the possibility to be humble there for no one as well to
make sure you know not going in with any expectations and winter I think this was
a very healthy way we just saw a team vision portrayed. Yeah, the balance, right? Yeah,
it's like, oh, we're going to win. We're the best team there. No, no, no, no expectations.
I just want to come here, do my job and hopefully we get the championship. Yeah, I think that's
very cool. Yeah, I would, uh, I mean, arrogance is interesting, right? It's like good to
yourself. Yeah, I kind of like Humbois is fine. But when you see the real drive,
the real push. I feel better about that. I think you feel more invested.
I feel like we felt the drive of no one in that as well. Yeah. Yeah. He's ready to do
what it takes to win. I think the interesting part is that both, I mean, I'm once like
you do have the confidence in other sides like no expectations, but both of them talk
about the group stages as it not being an easy road. Both of them a lot of respect
with how, even though it went foreign in terms of series,
how they lost those two games
and how they still felt like, you know what,
that wasn't quite right.
A lot of respect then also towards Boom Boys.
And I think that first game there showed
that that respect, Saber was well placed.
Yeah, I think vision, if they missed that once,
they were done.
I am very excited to see what Boom Boys have prepared
for game two, how they adjusted.
I think they prove that they have for sure what it takes to beat Team Vision
and I'm hoping that they will be able to do it in this game too.
I want to talk about that because you know, great!
Vision won a game, won fantastic, won the 75 minutes or something silly.
I'm sure that the way we just heard Vision talk about how their group stages met there
also not going to be happy about the game that just played because for a large portion of the game
boom boys was winning and some might argue that it is boom boys that ended up losing the game
They could have probably tweaked a bit of things and played better and won the game
So I think both teams are looking to make a lot of adjustments
And I want to talk about possible adjustments winter that they can make if you're the coach of
Vision how are you gonna approach this because you don't want your team to be with their backs against the rope at minute 30
And you don't really have to change anything on the vision side.
I feel like the pick order though, for me, I think matters a lot, wherever it's on the
first pick side.
Because you have so many in-bar heroes to go for, and I feel like you have more control
over the draft if you're the first pick.
And I think in the first series, it was vision that had the first pick, vision had
the first pick.
And in this game, Boom Boys, they're also paradise first pick.
So I feel like there's a lot of heroes that both teams are trying to get.
And being on first pick, you kind of have more control, I want to say, over the
I think the pick order is gonna matter a lot in this series. Is there any hero in particular? We do not want to see because I feel like this is two games that we've seen today, right?
I think when I've seen nature's profit versus loan druid, the loan druid usually wins or it looks like a much better matchup. So I'm assuming that's why they grab it first and left nature's profit from right. But that's the thing. If you ban loan druid, he'll just take that. Or maybe there's a shadow field. He'll take that. And I don't really think you can just ban satanic out. I don't know what you're talking about.
left nature's profit abroad. But that's the thing, if you ban Lone Druid, he'll just take that, or maybe there's a shadow field, he'll take that.
And I don't really think you can just ban Satanic Owl. I don't know if this Lone Druid feels like, you know, we ban Knights to be able to end all.
Yeah, for me it feels like, honestly, I like the boom boy draft more than vision. I feel like vision are just playing way too good.
Especially the offlane, this first game, there's no way a notice should have such a strong start against the Kess.
Darkseer against Kess, it's like in a best case scenario, it's a 50-50, clearly he should be able to have a good game.
However, vision they just stomped this lane and then it kind of bled into other lanes.
And boom boys, they did react to it in some nice ways as well. They were able to pressure the mid tower.
They played through GPK, who had a very nice game.
However, I don't know. I'm not sure what what do you do when the enemy course and supports are just on point playing extremely crisp
They should just I think it's just a few matters of like
Controlling yourselves a bit better
I think when we highlighted the death on Kez at the top tier 2 tower
It's like when that snowballs into more and more problems
They had a good grip on the game before that moment and all they needed to do was get that next Roshan because
They had already gotten the early Roshan's and when they gave up that map control and let vision suddenly take a rose
Now they're getting a Roshan's banner with really high range and they're able to put it so far back from the base and
You know get start to push and siege that base so much more safely
Because boom boys already did the hard work for them with the early one
Yeah, when you buy a pipe and you have the egg is and you're not using those items
Yeah, it's going to come back to buy you and I I think all the smaller details matter a lot
like even from the lane like Saber said, like they are not supposed to get so much out of the lane,
Kev was not supposed to be so poor because the lane went so well, the bounty get,
he got so much levels out of the lane and he became such a problem.
Yeah. If that didn't happen, the bounty wouldn't have been so annoying this game.
Yeah and that made Kyrgyz's game even, even harder.
It sounds like it all does start, especially for boomboys with the draft,
setting themselves up for success so they can propel themselves forward into that mid game.
Both coaches and the teams have surely cooked something cool up for the second
game coming our way. Can't wait to find out what that's going to be but good news.
We don't have to wait any longer as it's time for that second game.
Team Vision vs Boom Boys. Game 2.
Let's see what they cooked up.
We got Team Vision on the radiant side for this game number two.
Boom Boys will be on the dire side first take as when Tori mentioned we'll be in the
hands of Boom Boys and it will be interesting to see what they choose where they want
to take this draft.
At least Team Vision has put respect on that loan druid removing it from the pool.
does mean that the hero that Boom Boy started previous draft with, Lina, is still in the pool.
Do they want to pick that up here? Not sure, as this time around they don't have that
instant ban to protect it and instead we get the Largo, the first Largo on the main stage! Love to
see it, I know, Sarah, you're a big fan of this hero. Yeah, I love Largo. I'm also very surprised
that they banned Earth Spirit themselves because I know GBK, he's a very good Earth, but I guess
They feel like, you know, no need to just have Earth in the game at all.
We got our Largo. They, I know, Miro plays it really good.
I'm not sure if they also flex it to some other position.
However, this year, very popular. We've seen it done many times.
It's always solid and it scales really, really well.
It becomes a real beast in the late game.
And we've seen games go really late.
So I think this Largo should be off to a good start.
Especially against profit everything is a pretty solid lane. Yeah, but it's a nature's profit
It's a it's a satanic nature's profit
That's true
Viewers at home if you were not watching the group stage
Let me enlighten you to one of the best games of nature's profit
I've ever seen in my life may be the best of all time. Oh this man this boy
This property you pick nature's profit and he found so hard like his net worth through the roof
I mean that's just a classic but on top of that his APM felt incredible
He was using his Triant's non-stop to go and block camps on the enemy side of the map like go into their triangle
And he does these two little like hidden points on the camps in the oh, I saw that yeah
Well, he was able to find a kind of height though. I mean, he's on radiant this time
So I'm not sure if it's still the same with the guy
But anyway, the point is I think when you play a long game of Dota
It's very easy to get lazy to maybe not be as efficient because you're just doing so much for so long
It feels like Titanic never loses that energy. He is just so efficient with the Triant's he does everything
He gives vision, he blocks caps, he farms, he's active, he pushes the towers at the right time.
The team is very good at playing around the timings. Honestly, just hype! Hype bad!
Can he beat the IO logo though?
That's a good question probably.
Ooh, will the IO come out? That'll be also hype because you got the best strategy
that vision has pulled out, versus the best strategy that boom boys has pulled out.
That love to see that.
They're one all up, you know, maybe they're like,
let's just let them have their straw-less hero, you know?
I think this might be a good call.
I hope they banned the IO to be fair, because it's a very nice matchup for IO against Prophet in my opinion.
I think you just kind of don't deal with it if you don't have to, and they don't have to.
But we'll see. Perhaps they're trying to bait it out, and they have some crazy tech prepared for it.
Yeah, I heard Poppy talk in a podcast about what he's learned about how he used to draft versus now how he drafts when he's on team vision.
And it was exactly about are you letting things in and he's like because he used to be the drafter that always let things in because he wants to beat it
And he has said like now. I just know you know, it's about it is easy
Just like the IO gets back here with a rival and picks up as the pick out of band phase for vision
Yeah, this is probably just mainly for the logo and the lane because you can keep reapplying the
Just the slow on to the logo. So it's one of the better laners against logo here. Yeah, it's very nice
I'm also a little bit surprised by the Boom Boy bands as they band both Bounty Hunter and Velo
who are both not the best heroes against Largo as they both like apply a bunch of debuffs
and then Largo kind of solves that with his lick.
However, I'm sure they have like some grander vision about the game than just one more.
I think the party is kind of like mental, you know, something like they were worried about
same game happening so they didn't want to go with it, because when you lose games like
this I feel like there's a high chance that it affects your decision making in the draft
in the next game.
Yeah, these are like, inviz heroes as well, they just make you invest so much into them.
It's like, we saw him last game snipe the gem on the courier, right?
And it's like five heroes have to TP to come and kill him because he got that because
you can't let him have your gem.
Or it's like in the first series of the day, we saw two gems get picked up against
longer it because it's like we just need vision of these guys they make the game
yeah because centuries with no so much over the course of so many
yeah okay I'm gonna talk about Marana about looking to skip that I need to talk
about the punch talk to me about what's he gonna do who's gonna play it is
this a night-time I watched him play it in the group stage it was honestly I'm
not gonna lie, amazing. First of all, he actually landed his hooks. I know that to anyone watching, you haven't seen that before in your pubs.
He landed his hooks. He was disrupting the safe lane so hard and he was genuinely actually playing with Nois.
He wasn't just like hooking and then leaving and trying to get something on mid. He didn't make any silly stuff out of it.
He was genuinely like just dragging creep waves and making the lane playable for his off lane because Fudge is not, you know, fantastic.
But why is he good here though? He doesn't even have a setup. I think that game he had an Ember Spirit so he could hook.
he could hook the chain.
But he was talking about it, like he's actually just that go to the punch, I'm not kidding.
I have a question, Samer.
Yeah.
Or everybody actually, yes.
You're in the pub, you gotta choose, do you want your opponents to play bounty hunter,
opponent position four, or do you want your opponent position four to play punch?
It depends how good the punch is.
They're both very good.
Well, if they're both very good, I would take the bounty hunter rather than the punch.
However, it is easy to miss hooks on the main stage.
Alright.
I love this pick from Boom Boys.
I think Ember, it kind of brings their entire draft together.
It pairs up super well with Largo.
He's gonna buff you.
You have bonus magic damage.
They super desperately needed some setup for this Mirana arrow.
Now they have that.
They have super strong mid pressure against the puck.
I feel like this.
I'm very worried, because if this is like a normal game
and the Pudge doesn't get some crazy hooks and some crazy kills.
Boom Boys have much better pressure through the mid lane.
Their free man of their supports plus Ember is way stronger than Pudge, Viver and Puck,
so they can run away with the game very easily if they get a normal game going.
The vessel is also going to counteract the Wyvern heal and Ember is also very good here at hunting down the MP.
Let's take actually solve so much of the problems here for Boom Boys.
So, the way I saw him play the Pudge at least, just to give it some credit, is you go like
a lot of pause-for as you buy a blink, and then you have a BKB piercing stun.
So it's not like you're relying on landing your hooks here to have impact.
He knows how to play his lanes around his hero, maybe being weaker.
He knows how to, like, he's gonna, I am I's, and then he's gonna go make plays
with his team.
I also do like, when you're playing against saving supports, like, undying, if you are
able to hook someone away from their team. It forces everyone out of position, which I think,
you know, it makes boomboys drop quite uncomfortable. Yeah, you can also start the fight with the
curse in the hole. It might be something that they practiced before and they felt like you
could actually win them some games. Great question, Winter. Pop quiz. There's Winter
Wyverny cursed someone. You're going to hook the curse target. Does the curse follow?
Yes, so you can hook him into enemy players and everybody will be joining the curse. Yes, they'll be following the target right love that
All right
Let's talk final pitch because we are needing a hero for
Kiritage on the side of boom boys and we're needing a hero for notice on the side of vision
What kind of what kind of holes do the drafts still have what kind of what kind of holes?
Need damage
Damage on the side of boom boys
Hero. Spectre is kind of good against Wyvern and empty, I can't see it.
The damage will come from the Rockman in the form of Tiny. Do you like that?
That's okay, it's a stable pick. Very solid. I like that it's a stun for the puck
because right now with the other four heroes this puck cannot really die
unless someone buys an Orchid. So once you have the Tiny and you have
way to start on this puck it becomes much easier. And we got the Slarder counter pick.
I don't mind it. It's good against undying as well. You have like a lot of physical damage, shouldn't be good against Tiny.
Depends how much the punch does. I don't really have an idea. On paper, the boom boys safe lane looks much better than the slaughter punch.
However, I'm sure Ninth class has something in his pocket.
I feel like the slaughter, like in the lane, you are already a good matchup against Tiny because Tiny has no armor.
And you can just spam the crush
But you feel like the punch not really being useful would be a problem for the slur against Tiny
Yeah, but I'm also very excited because it doesn't happen very often that we have four melee heroes in one lane
So it's just gonna be an absolute blood bar
That's surely favourites boom boys because they got the undying. Do you have the undying? Yeah
I mean they might also, they might swap lanes. I don't know if it benefits them more to do that
I mean, it's punch is just gonna go drag your words anyway, and then it's like a you applying your undying to the best possible lane
And you could start with boots as undying this song lane
I feel like that could be an option in a formula and you could pressure whenever if night class tries to pull again
It's right-click a bunch and you know push him out
We're gonna find out if we're gonna get a game three to this series or if the team vision will take it in
To oh, we're heading over to the game at first an interview with coach puppy
Hey everybody, yes, I am here with coach puppy. My goodness puppy on the main stage of TI certainly
Unsurprising but great to see you here today. Let's get into the business my friend. All right now punch you guys meming or what?
Do you really believe in this punch?
He is he is but you're up against something like an undying undying and traditionally kind of tougher push all those little zombies running around blocking hooks
You know strength. There's a lot of
We're not talking about the lore, Puppet.
We have to get it.
I am not asking you about the lore, sir.
Tell me about this series.
It's kind of sus in game one.
If I have to say not sus to you,
did you feel like you had any chance of losing that game?
No, we should have lost.
You should have lost.
Who got you out of that pit?
Got me out of it.
What's the guy who saved that game?
How would say...Syphonic.
Okay, okay. This guy is safety.
Nice.
That's very good. I've never seen something like this before.
What do you think about this kid?
Do you think he's got what it takes to win this year?
Yeah, I think he's got the...
He's got the balls, you know?
Well, that's what we're here for, my friend.
Balls of walls, and here we go.
Thank you very much, my friend Puppy.
As we get into this game, let's throw it over to SunsFan and Cinderant.
Thank you so much, sir. Action slacks with puppy another illuminating interview where we learned literally nothing about this series and the game
Team vision versus boom boys game number two of this best of three and one thing slacks mentioned
I was thinking the same syndrome. I love to see Pudge, but I'm dying
I mean not just being a strength hero the zombies blocking hooks the tombstones saving heroes when you get dismembered
Pretty tough pick, but I'd love to see it
Right off the bat, sportscaster cars underway already.
Kat, the only gets flicked up.
We have two hooks in a way.
And now no one in a little bit of trouble.
The pressure's going to give them a little bit of space,
but the illuminating get away as well.
I think when...
It's not over yet, Senator.
Shut your mouth.
We've got to crush down onto GPT.
Notice.
He's going to be forced out now.
Take a tree to the back of the head.
Quiet.
I don't...
I belong there.
I'm not going to crash on it.
Missed it.
Okay, you can speak now.
It was over.
We're up. Hooking action, Cinderan. Go ahead.
I think in a game like this, I don't think you should be looking at the lane in a vacuum
between the Slogger Punch lane against Undying Tiny.
There is the ultimate wild card from the safe lane of Vision.
Satanic is playing nature's profit. This hero can just start joining moves up top very early
if it wants to and overwhelm the lane, and you can get that numbers advantage.
This is, to me, this is the strongest carry of the tournament, I think, and that might be weird to say when you just saw two games today of Londra doing despicable things to the enemy base.
But Prophet just has had incredible GPM.
In the top chart of GPMs, this tournament, Satanic holds a lot of the spots, he holds a lot of them on this hero.
It's been very successful.
It fits the flow of the game very well in terms of it's almost impossible to be profiting lane now that you're actually still in
Trans early with nature's call. They're quite strong now in the lane
So most of the time you get out of the lane as a winner
Then you transition that win into other lanes which a lot of other satanic heroes
Don't do that like he will just win his lane and then he'll go jungle and farm a lot
This is probably the best of both worlds where he can do that
But he can also join moves when he wants to and he can join from anywhere
Which is very different to a lot of other heroes are almost every other heroes
We need to make a choice. Do I go for this camp or do it go for this play?
Well, guess what just do whatever you want at the same time. So
Sounds easy enough keep an eye on that profit to be
Potentially running the show here. He's looked outstanding on it. Why have we not seen more of it?
I don't know. I think if you keep piping it up every time we cast it it absolutely destroys
Yeah, I think it's been undervalued. It's also been it started getting banned a lot more in second and third day
Walk away you can lick off the the arctic burn, but it will reapply if he gets attacked again
That's one of the changes to Wyvern in the last year. Yep
And very important question mechanics question for you, Senator
We have two heroes that can hook runes. Does that matter in this game? Not really a situation
Where it really matters everybody wants to see it. Oh, there's great rune spotting you hook it
And therefore your mid player gets in and their mid player does that type. Yeah, that's why I don't know what you were expecting
It's not the only thing that can happen
Oh, what if you collect room you shouldn't really think about that you put on to the other side
Just makes like a little store. Yeah
Runes for sale.
You just need techies for the mines to protect it, and then you have a new base you can protect.
That is a good point after the previous game.
We just saw Boom Boys playing, I would argue, a pretty solid game.
I think they played very well and they made it tough for Vision to win that.
They have to play under so much map pressure the entire time
between bounty hunter and techies just having invisible pressure everywhere,
seemingly in the mid and late game.
This time around it's more of a fair fight, if you will.
So if they get up to a similar start to game one, or a similar early mid-game at least,
I think perhaps this time around they could have what it takes.
Pudge is quite volatile. Even if you play it well, there's just games where you just fall off a cliff.
The profit is obviously going to be the x-factor of this game together with Corus of Haze, like make no mistake, this is extremely potent.
But I'm pretty positive for boom boys based on that game 1 that they could have a good
shot here with despite giving up the profit.
Already a very good start in the mid lane for boom boys, 29 and 5 CS, it makes you the
hook from 9 class under the tier 1 tower, and that is going to be the first plus 4.
And that's the tower.
Now the tower claims it, unfortunately the tower cannot level up as a result of
these kills.
That would be something.
Yep.
Not getting to those discussions.
Yeah, Tower Hero, your favorite design.
Game design is always at the forefront of the minds,
and they're very interesting, I know.
But yeah, GPK owning in the mid lane right now.
Quite a sizable lead, I would say, at this stage.
Yeah, he also did very well against no one
in game number one on the Lina versus Snap matchup,
but I think that one is more inherently Lina favorite
than this one is for Ember.
I would say at least based on the games
we've seen so far in this game.
Ember generally doesn't play this much of a distance,
so GPK just outplaying.
Oh, we'll take away Satanic gets the last hit save forced out. There's a couple of weeks available to him
And that bottom lane definitely going quite well for vision so far
Yeah, the GP K winning this way. Let's see if he can I mean last game he played Lena and he destroyed the game overall
They just couldn't get over that hump and that hump was a bear
it was a combination of a bear bounty and
and the mines.
That's right, an inanimate object was too strong for boomboys to recover from.
Notice playing the Slaughter this time around.
What do you think about the Offlane Slaughter?
I feel like more times than not, we see it mid lane to try to counteract these melee heroes.
Of course, you get the extra river bonus as a result,
but because of the Offlane, you're not getting that at all.
A lot of the time this Offlane Slaughter just falls a little bit flat, it has a pretty bad matchup here.
Considering those factors being 22 and 4 here for notice is actually quite good.
I think this is a terrible lane to play.
So he's getting what he can, but the issue Slaughter often times has is that he doesn't recover very well in the jungle compared to a lot of other Offlaners.
That's why they're more popular because in the current patch you go into the Offlane expecting to lose.
That's just daughter right now. The safe lane is just better. The carries are extremely strong in the safe lane. The tives are really good
So most of the time your off lane will struggle and Slaughterer if he wants to find jungle fast
He needs shard and soul ring
You don't get there until obviously
Manifestians the earliest possible
A lot of the time you want to forward them if you want to do what he's doing here
Which looks to be treads into soul ring and then blink
that build can
If it gets delayed significantly from a bad laning phase, you become a liability for 15-20 minutes in the off lane.
Compared to last game where you were a centaur that went helm of the dominator just pulled waves and farmed and had global stampede,
this hero can have very little impact comparatively.
However, if things go well,
you are a monster.
Later in this game, Slaughter is going to be incredible if he gets there.
For Rosengeist, the Prophet is amazing.
Yeah, one of the few heroes that can actually just take a bite to tiny.
face-to-face looking to create some havoc on this seven-minute wisdom
crime
concede that's a concede it looks like this three members have shown up for
room boys although night class apparently but the damage already be done
I'm going to come down a little bit too late to say no actually don't trickle
away the tree was not enough to finish the job and instead instead
Kiritich will fall to 9-5, so what's right is life away though.
And now you see the undying following suit as GPK laps the remnant away.
All of that.
Kind of weird to lose Kiritich here as boom boys.
Definitely not what they signed up for.
They do get both wisdoms though, I do believe.
It's a decent trade overall, but Prophet joining in for the play gets the final touch
and then immediately heads down to bottom to put the pressure back on to Yaro.
Satanic is about to crack level six.
That's going to be more issues for boomboys, but yeah, very, very important for them to get these wisdoms, to get levels on their support.
Last to the crippling death, or garages, just came back to lane.
I'm not close to level six, but notice it is there.
Slow tool frog gets to bash out. The arrow is only going to hit a creep though.
We'll lose the fudge if notice gets an Alphonsealus now.
It's off the slog, it's off the crush.
And another death for the position, one Tiny,
that is two down already.
Notice gonna get healed up now from two Polis.
If no one finishes the job onto the Marana,
and GP stay will have to run away in shame.
And for the Tiny, there's no TP for 30 seconds.
That is the worst part about this death.
We'll have to walk all the way back
if he wants to even connect with the lane.
And that was such a slow kill too.
It took them forever to bring down the tiny but reinforcements just didn't arrive in time for boom boys
The ember showed up very very late. You can't pull down on the TP from the previous move. So
Couldn't really get there
Another advantage for vision
If tiny falls behind significantly in this game, it's it's serious problem
The panel was talking about this from a damaged perspective
Boom boys lineup very much relies on the carry to output a lot here
That's one of the downsides when you play Largo on the three position. He just doesn't do very much damage early on in the game
So you really want your tiny to get toward that silver age ASAP
So you can pose a threat to actually kill the pox you can pose the threat to the ages profit to not just play
Two-thirds of the map for free
Yeah, it seems seems very targeted as well from the side of vision like they've recognized if we shut down tiny this game plays itself
are so good. I mean he is top level on his team and third over all in the game so I wouldn't say
this is even though I called it crippling maybe it should have set back. Well you've got to wait
for it. If you think about it in relative terms to how easy his lane was this is a pretty bad
result. Okay fair enough. You're playing tiny undying into slaughter punch. You're not going
to get a much easier lane than that on the TI main stage so if if that ends up in you having
a 400 net worth lead over the Sarmarmin at 10, I would say you lost the lane. That is just not
good enough. And obviously there's a lot of moving parts in this. It's not like they lost the lane
2v2. Not going to pretend, but that's the profit factor. That's those rotations from the puck.
It's the gate play from Wyver and all of these things just adding up and making it a hard
game for Kiritich. Aaron will have to go back to base to get some mana. Damage rune on
the puck so we'll see what no one wants to do with this as he has I mean he lost the lane
initially you can see network wise he's top two in the game so having himself a very good comeback
now. Yep, go on to assist will help and satanic it's only just beginning here comes the melstrom
10 minutes 40 a very good time I'm so glad I added him to my fantasy this guy is a beast
That's a Omi. Try to lead the way here for boom boys. Notice this now, and that is a Crutch.
Damage coming out, and a nice hook as well. Save will have to use those leaps as one more at his disposal.
We'll use it in an attempt to TP Alpha's delusory orb and the right click is enough as no one making use of that damage rune.
and vision. 2k lead, 8-2 in terms of kills, and they're likely to get this tower as well.
It's guaranteed, so almost 3k lead here after this tower goes down.
Keep in mind while all of this is happening, they have a prophet in their back pocket who does not need to join
so it's just more farm on the map being taken by Satanic.
Heritage trying to match his pace in the jungle. Not gonna happen, might be not.
Even if Tiny has a really clean start, he can maybe get somewhat close to profit's pacing.
But with how this started out, Satanic should be widening the gap currently sitting at 1,600 more net worth than the Tiny.
I would expect this to bloom to 3 or 4k come minute 15 or at least minute 20.
He should be ahead by almost a full item at that point.
So once again for boom boys, we've got to get some play going and this
This is the issue I have sometimes with these Largo picks, is it looks really good in certain games,
but it also in losing games, just trying this hero often times becomes a complete non-factor.
Miero has an extremely deep hero pool.
You're playing against a team like Vision, you pick this Largo and you round out your lineup in this fashion.
I'm just worried they're going to end up farming until they fall way too far behind.
What type of a hero would you like to see on Miero then?
It's it's hard to say right because you first pick this obviously the draft is going to be designed around the fact that you pick that
And vision are deliberately going to target it in different ways
And then you have a problem with them picking you're
I
Personally think overall first picking Largo. I am what our view is over again, but we've seen other teams do it
And we've seen boom boys do it. That's right. I stand over here on the call. It will be a kill to gpk
I don't know the thing is if you do get to the point of the game where Miero is
gonna pick it up and it will be great go for it go for it let's see it right
through the creeps TP's coming right through the uprights here the arrow
hit the hook rather into the dismembered note is all alone those of one
versus two but no one's gonna join the party actually get the double kill
with one illusory orb and now the importance of boom boys have arrived but
three versus five, and they do this.
The Coyle comes out, the Satanic has to try to fight his way out of it.
He does die, triple kill from Nolan.
They do lose Satanic in this, but they lose four on Boone's lawyers,
and it's going to be a full team wipe and all likelihood.
The curse sets it up with the fashion, the trust to finish the job,
and vision just dunking on the basketball team.
They're getting a strike on the bowling ball team.
They're getting a strike on the baseball team in the room.
Strike actually works for two of them.
That's right.
Yeah.
Nice.
Are they gonna get the Wisdom? No. They're not gonna get the Wisdom 2 unless. Nine class.
And... oh! Ooh!
Very close. Keep calling it Aero. I'm so not used to seeing Pudge, apparently.
That's a HUC, you idiot.
Somebody had to say it.
Thank you.
This is like this tier one tower.
This is a really big lead this early.
And these types of lineups being a 5k, 6k now.
Almost taking the mid tower there as well as no one. But, getting punished by GPK.
and the remnants are there until one spirit mess will fly, trying to lose your orbit.
It's not happening. GPK getting a solo kill is very, very much needed for Boom Boys.
They need a lot more of that.
Gonna need some individuals to step up here. GPK, that's a massive solo kill, getting level 12 now.
A big upgrade for him.
Here, Titch will be going for the blink before Silver Edge as it looks currently, or he will
go blink into Harpoon.
Here's about the exact order here.
Miero, Kaya, Yaha, Kassanj, excuse me, on Largo, pretty standard.
We either see one of two builds essentially.
In games where the lick is outstanding, we sometimes see the Octorine Rush.
If that's not the case, it's usually a variant of Kaia. Either you get Kaia Sanch or just Kaia into BKB, for example, looks like in this game he doesn't value the link highly enough for the off-drain build.
In my shadow, they're trying to find somebody who gets to the high ground and they have some wasted rotation for boom boys unless they can catch them out here.
It's only Kat to only on this side though, he's spotted.
He's going to take more damage than he was able to get on top of vision instead.
We talked about last game how Boom Boys had a better late game, that was obviously not
true, so what's your next incorrect prediction here for late game Dota in this game too?
The thing of the previous game, I think neither of us really considered just how
first of all how gross the bounty hunter plus bear combo was with the extra stun
which actually is quite a huge role in that game.
And secondly, the physical swap on Snapfire,
which gave them just ridiculous late game.
In this one, I don't know, I think it's kind of close.
I think there's plenty of scaling potential.
To me, Puck is one of the,
it's in like the handful of best late game heroes
and all of those, and we do get to that point.
Just guess ridiculous when it's six-slotted.
And the landslide hero, another death in no one.
Boom Boy is able to find a couple of big pick offs on this puck.
That Link reveal there in Kiritich, they're not going to get the tower, but again, setting back no one by a bit.
Just feel good.
He's a shadowing 9 class here. His 9 class has a blink himself.
He's level 10!
He's a monster. Look at the net worth.
He's gotten 60 last hits in this game.
Yep.
Just hooking creeps. It's really nice to play with Wyvern when you're punched. There's so much
Just farm cam
Doesn't go for this member must have lost vision at the last moment
That's hard to be fair morana is hard to get an arrow against
She knows it like she has it and you're gonna intercept me into doing this again. Yeah
Smoke up. From vision.
No inherently obvious move to be made here because you can't transition this into a mid tier one or top tier one since you already took them.
So this feels like we're going to invade, try to get a kill and get some offensive wards out so we can keep playing the map aggressively.
This is a very good Pazomi.
Very much so. 9-5-1 for the book. Successfully get them out of character to get the double atlas, but he is completely surrounded now.
Look at that.
Yes, right click he's three and one heritage on the other hand two and four on this position one tiny
And it was a double-edged pick tiny is very good against the puck
But you are picking it into Wyvern
I would argue is maybe the single best support in the entire game against tiny so heavy on the physical damage
You just block it with cold embrace hard to burn does a ton of damage to you
Big kill
And of course curse as well even another good ability against the tiny
Yeah, in that instance you saw the issue that
Curitich is probably going to be dealing with the entire game here when you get corrosive haze
You die so fast to a profit. Yeah, I mean we've seen it with cat
Which would you rather have with a slaughter a kez or a nature's profit a case?
Why did I even ask?
It is always on the menu. I think we've cat. I don't know how many games we've cast with as long
what do you think maybe at this tournament overall overall maybe five five it
always won I think it wasn't even close a single game could be wrong but yeah it
feels like they've selective memory and all that but and old age yeah don't
forget that one you'll be forgetting a lot more in your life that one's
It's important to remember that you remember that.
I'll keep it in mind, thank you.
All you got to do.
Yep.
I don't want to try to avoid another death here,
but he's still created a lot of space for Satanic
to separate himself from the pack in terms of network.
The 3K lead just on himself versus Kiritich.
So yeah, 3 and 1 half thousand and 20 minutes
carried with scary.
This looks like a lot of Satanic games
we've got to see is following the standard team vision recipe.
So this should be feeling very comfortable.
And yes, as you pointed out, no one has died twice, but he's six, two and five.
So it's not like he's had a bad game at all.
He's still second on that word.
Yeah.
You get the waning riff link away.
And that, I believe, was my shadow, maybe even a smoke reveal as well.
Very timid here.
Eventually, they will start hitting the tower.
Looks like there's a lot of fire from this, they're making a blitz.
They get the coil only onto the one, though.
They find a separation, they blink in from the notice, and they talk to the guy, they probably watch no one,
but that's not going to stop Satanic.
He's right-clicking, cherishing to the ground,
turning to the two stone next to the spotter, pretty low.
Double kill coming out from GPT, now they're going to try to hook into on Satanic,
and then they're going to switch in with the dismember and the rock.
They're not going to kill on GPT.
gets out of the remnant to the last moment,
they lose three on the side of Vision and GPT will survive.
Ninth class now on the run,
they're slowed to a crawl thanks to the call,
it's a trickle show from GPT and he's not done yet.
Spirit that will apply, make it an host top,
and two boys needed to desperately
pull Team White in favor of that.
That felt very forced for Vision.
You already lost your tower, you one-man coil.
They really, really wanted to fight there
with their BKB timing on the Nature's Prophet, but the conditions for that fight could not
have been more ideal for the Dire. That is huge for boomboys to get a fight on those terms.
They get to hit some key items now. They get double Kaisan between the Largo and the Ember.
A lot of Vessel charges as well picked up now for GPK getting an Ultra Kill. And that fight,
look at this. Yes, sure, you're going to kill the Tiny, but you compromise your
Puff position entirely. You port in the Prophet who has to spend half his BKB just destroying
the tombstone. And your curse was not really that great either. I mean sometimes it's better
to just cut your losses. They could have lost the tower and that's it.
It was very close though, so it could have gotten that kill on PPK.
That is massive. That's two-thirds of the lead down the drain.
For sure. And get the arrow connection onto 9-clash, already attached health.
How is that fair?
Absolutely. He eats them up for dinner. 2K lead now for vision so it has dropped
Traumatically boom boys
Want to go out this upper bracket of course they're gonna have that second line for darkness, but
Alice this is the difference between
Guaranteed top eight which you currently are in top four right?
Top six top six
Usually is you could lose twice after
What a pivotal fight though. I think that was more, even though there's an ultra kill on
Ember, I feel like the fight was most important for Largo because he actually got to get involved,
have a successful fight, and progress his game. I have my concerns about the Largo,
but now that that fight has happened, his game is going to start looking up a lot. He's
1500 up on the Slardar. He's obviously going to counter Slardar very heavily until
level 25s come in. You're going to be able to just lick off Corosive Haze.
In addition, you're buying Lotus, so even more removal for that, removal for the Puck
Silence.
Blocking this member is super annoying for 9 class, so a lot of upside here for Miero.
And he almost has the Lotus.
Actually progressed so much, and yeah, I was questioning, I still don't know how much
I love that hero as an overall first pick, but that one fight might have just been
all they needed.
entire lead is gone for vision.
Yeah, if you talked about it, but the Lotus with the Shard, a very big power spike for
the frog.
In the pit, boom boys go.
Vision have any idea what's going on.
Right class, trying to go for a hook.
We'll actually get a hero instead of a zombie, surprisingly enough.
Something here, he wanted to hook though.
So we'll be not.
Now we're steering chains together.
The boys will exit to try to find something.
They're taking the harpoon to get to the other side of the trees.
They take out the colise in turn.
GPT's little eggs, these are super strong right now.
I'm afraid I don't see this early in the game.
To be afraid, I'm afraid I've gotten almost every single roach in this series.
Yeah.
It was four out of the five last game
and this will be their fifth over on the series and they're down a game.
Yeah.
It's time around now.
It's time around they're not dealing with mines.
Notice it's found. No PKBs. He should be dead here.
I don't have a TP anymore either.
I think he must have run the DKB charge, so we'll sacrifice himself.
And Boom Boy is looking much better now after an extremely rough start.
Yeah, and they might even get the Tormenter as well. It's about to hit up top. This is pretty much perfect timing.
Just push out this next top wave and grab that as well.
It's going to be a really early agon and septer for GPK as well.
Usually, we see it as a... I want to say you usually see it with one more item on top of what he has now.
What do you think the reason for that is? I mean, it's an incredible action.
I think he's not very counter at this game compared to the other heroes, so I really like rushing it when you're doing this well.
You get a ton of HP when you go Kaisan plus eggs, so if they can't change stun and lock you down and kill you in the burst, then...
He's got to rely on getting dispelled or getting tombstone saved or soulwhip
like whatever it is. He's kind of trusting his teammates and the payoff is he has
way more mobility, way more damage. I really like it here. I think this is
definitely the right choice. I'm gonna go for Lotus Orb next on him as well.
Tailless for Satanic. Seemingly out of nowhere. They're gonna need him to
come up big here. This is gonna take a stellar performance at this point.
anything less than top tier play from satanic is not going to cut it here and
remember I mean boys having the next three in the last ti we mentioned this
but satanic was on a pretty hot streak and then on the main stage kind of maybe
fell victim to the pressure I want to say me obviously the very young kid game
number one he kind of brushed that off I'm not personally worried about that
anymore
Still a lot on his shoulders as the position one.
Oh, could be good. Moonlight as well.
Light up.
That's a good curse.
I'm dying. It's almost dead already.
Now to get the hook into this member.
With the right back coming from St. Kennedy.
From the safe man from here.
The lick just in time.
Security.
People get out just fine.
We only lose the one.
Of course, I'm dying.
This instantly comes back anyway.
Okay, that could have gone way worse for Moon Boys after that curse came out.
Obviously, we haven't talked about this synergy, but Curse with Corrosive Haze is actually kind of crazy
Tiny just clobbered. I'm dying back to the base
He even made better by Slardar shard, right? Because you get the AoE
There it is, find himself a blue cat
All the brave snacks would be enough
Two minutes on the ages. So what do boom boys want to get out of the ages now in terms of structural damage?
I mean maybe they can get a tier 2
Oh, there's no one.
He has discs.
Maybe a tough takedown.
I'm not sure. It's fine, yeah.
I'm not even finding anything. Just take these off.
Um, I mean, probably bottom tier 2 seems realistic for boomboys.
At the same time, maybe you don't feel like you have to push anything.
Go for smoke again.
Here we go.
Is that mean they have a better league?
You said that last shit.
You call us.
He's moving very fast.
Gonna take some more right click damage though, come here a bit.
This is why I'm here.
Let's have to cool him and brace as far as I can see it.
With the arrow, we'll actually hit onto no one.
The big, oh, coming out from the 9th class.
Look at this number on the top of the tier 2 tower.
That's Aegis.
We have the reinforcement sound for vision.
9th class is winking in.
Some rock damage, and the spirits are able to get away from the onslaught of vision.
They will kill off 9th class.
Honestly, provision trading pledge for Aegis pretty damn good.
Yeah.
Important there that Kiritich gets to blink out from respawning with the Aegis.
If he somehow took an instance of damage they would have killed him again with Coil in the tower probably.
But with that reset, it's the end of that fight, boom boys.
Can you phase shift out of a duel's arrow when you're coming down?
I think the arrow's on top of you, it is going to hit.
I don't remember if they've changed that or not.
Okay.
Doing his best anime impression here.
Now that he has the Agatom Scepter for the Ember Spirit,
genuinely still think this is the best axe in the entire game.
It's very, very good.
I haven't really talked about satanic because they haven't been really looking for fights per se, but he talked about the data less
Looks to be only he's gonna get his namesake in satanic
replace the right hand and then
Looks like a hurricane pike after the fact
Yeah, it's interesting that he's waiting that long on the pike here. I
Suppose there's no range matchup per se. You're playing against the melee carry and a melee mid
I mean triple melee horse on the opposing team, so maybe the pike less good than usual and you just need to have staying power
That in mind actually makes a ton of sense to buy the second
But yeah, it's been rather quiet
From the vision camp and that mid fight was what turned it all around
Yeah
But we saw last game they're pretty comfortable just chillin
Getting them the items that they feel like will be the next power spikes for them a blink dagger for captain
Omini has the grab ally shard so
Definitely awesome having
Good saves on I mean dismember is gonna be a problem
Rather the other way around this member can you counter it instantly from that?
Get acts on the rana to
I'm class somehow has PKB. Why that how he's pretty farms
Pudge can scale really hard even as a support can become a problem for cores later in the game
So I think that's potentially a bit of a saving grace for a vision.
They do manage to drag this game out again.
Like let's say this is another one hour game, Pudge.
Let's present a bit of a problem. There's no percentage based damage on the enemy team.
There's no hero that's really going to buy anything that truly destroys Pudge in the blink of an eye.
I mean look at the Dota win probability again, I'm gonna ask that three minutes
I do apologize for all the Dota plus
Enjoyers out there
We can't like boom boys. We can't really compare. What is that right now? 62 for them
That's pretty accurate. At this time it's a boom boys favorite Dota plus. That's good
So Satanic is gonna buy this item now. I wonder if that is going to prompt the move
Obviously a very strong timing for the vision side
But also BKB on Largo at the same time, so matching at high value pick up.
Is Satan the only one that can reliably hit the tombstone?
Is this kind of an issue with their draft?
I mean Wyvern can help, but it's not very fast.
So yeah, that is definitely a potential concern as well.
that
he has to spend half the day to be again to do that
, and a butterfly after the hurricane by so
, as we said, the
way
BK working on a BKB next, it seems, and Roche is in 55 seconds, likely the next fight is
supposed to be playing relatively fast, if you want it.
I mean, in terms of just getting solo pick offs, I would think that vision actually
have the advantage with that. You got Corosapay single target right click from
Nature's Prophet, the Pudge. It's about finding these heroes alone, which has been
difficult. And ideally getting a combo during coil, which I don't think we've
seen that play a single time in this game. It's generally just been 9 class setting
himself up. That does matter a lot when heroes get PKB though, because otherwise
he's going to hook them in and they will always be able to PKB before they
dismembered but if you do a coral plus you might actually snap them and be able to chain all your
abilities. There's a tombstone down though. It becomes way more difficult. Yep, that is true.
It's a very difficult minigame to try to get a high score on.
And even for saving teammates the book loses a lot of value because of the zombies. It's not
like you can buy shard and just eat your teammates anymore. Which I'm really missing by the
way god I love that thing smoke from boom boys we'll be broken by nine class so
I'm sure they'll find it in the tree like the VTV TP alright night falls away
there's now a nullifier online for notice so they're getting the items they're
getting the farm they're dodging quite relatively successfully provision
Rosh is up though. They don't know that the DKBs haven't really cared that much I guess, but the DKBs being down for 9 classes out of vision.
Yeah, that's something to keep in mind in this game. See the links in there? Very important.
Massive.
We'll bottle the damage room for sure.
Yeah, it's um, when you have some really strong physical damage it feels like if the game is
somewhat even you can always find a win off of getting a clean jump at any given point.
So, the Slaughter Profit, even though Boom Boys have been doing a really good job in the last
15 minutes, you slip off once, you, let's say you get your own dying jump and he instantly
dies off the Slaughter, the fight develops, you get a dismember off and there's no
You can definitely see a path or vision to set up a fight on their terms.
The nullifier is larger in health and step by step he's approaching the 25, you know,
I don't want to get ahead of myself, but that is...
I think a lot of people would say it's the best talent in the entire game.
The undispellable corrosive haze is...
Have you ever seen the other one?
Crazy.
I have, I think.
On the Octorine belt, back in the day, right?
Yeah, the Octorine belt is a little bit of a harsh pull down, but...
This gobble haze is huge, Hans-Lard.
If they can get there, that'll be a big swing for Vision Side, and it allows Notice to become another carry,
which arguably they might need, because I don't know if Profit's gonna be able to do all the damage by himself here later,
but I mean, you've got Puck as well, Hans-Lardar. I don't think damage will be a concern.
Maybe like to see Boomboys take a little more initiative if possible.
You can find some in here, and I'm classed just standing in the spot here trying to break smoke, or at least get the information.
Oh, look, the cause is spotted, though! Searing chains, cancels out that CP.
He did.
Oh, end up falling to GPK.
10 and 1 on the Ember.
Oh, I'm classed. I think he was trying to do the ward, and he spotted that with a drone, and he's killed that.
But most supports that for vision.
And Roche is like, hey, I'm ready for you.
Open wide.
There it is.
That's your suit.
They actually pulled me and stood right on top of their work.
Just stood there.
That's pretty unfortunate.
Four-night class.
Yeah, that's gonna be, well, Roche, number 10 for the boys of the series.
This is six out of the seven ages.
It's so slow.
I believe.
I could be wrong, actually.
Now, maybe visioned at the last erosion actually in our game today.
It did go under the bridge.
Yeah.
We've lost track.
Counting is difficult.
Alright, let's see if boom boys have a plan with this Pages.
On the Tiny.
Getting high ground is realistic.
It is...
We talked about last game how hard it was to see each playing into the bounty hunter scouting playing into Techie's mines.
This time around you're playing as a Pudge, Coil, Wyvern.
Yeah.
Like, you can build this advantage, but how do you break the base?
You don't want to fight first. Seems quite tricky.
Your tower-hitting hero in Tiny has to come up close.
You can get hit at any point by a hook.
He takes a ton of damage from Wyvern.
Look at the damage he does to Jelda.
Yeah, of course. I mean, we can definitely get the job done if he gets to swing at it, but...
Would you rather have a Bear or a Tiny?
Oh, I'd rather have a Bear.
Bear is greater than rock. That's like a new version of rock.
Bear has a fourth component. You need a fifth. Maybe your face.
Yeah, he just loses every time. Yeah, that's right.
Missed time of the war. Nope, never does.
Great game design again.
Really? Proving yourself today.
I'm a veteran.
Panic about to hit 25.
What's your gold from Octurine? Which talent do you take?
We've mostly seen Trian damage. I guess in this game state maybe take teleportation.
That's pretty good.
Yeah, he's still taking Trian.
You'll get to 30, I'm sure. Yeah. How long is this game going? So now let's make predictions.
I was dead on last one, so it's your turn to be right.
Oh, nice career kill. That was actually a lot of Trian. Yeah, nice.
I'm going to say 65 minutes.
I don't think it's going to go that way.
I'm going to say 57 minutes and 21 seconds.
Really?
I'll ping the ante here with the seconds too.
Very confident.
Yeah, because I was 30 seconds off last time and upset me.
Right.
Correct.
I've already forgotten what I said, but I'm sure somebody has a record of that
somewhere.
Hopefully we're not casting into the void.
You said 57.21, no?
Okay, sure.
I'll believe you.
I can say it again and you still don't recognize whether it's correct probably right but this was something you said 10 seconds
I think it was 58
That's why I'm here to make you doubt yourself that you become a better analyst or worse depending on the day
Two minutes on ages they get the tier two mid
You still see the separation between satanic and personal package completely absurd
We're reaching that point though where Slarnaar's net worth, his hero, generally speaking most
of the time Offlane Slarnaar, when it has a good lane it can sometimes sit in the top
three net worths but often times Slarnaar will be at the bottom of the course or at
the very least bottom two.
But he reaches a certain point where even when he is sixth he has mega impact just
because of how minus armor scales later into the game and when he gets, like let's say
We get 10 minutes later in and everybody from here on out gains 5k gold each
Yeah, his hero has so insane impact with that 5k gold compared to a lot of what a lot of other off-liners would in that range that
I'm not really worried for
For his ability in this game to just scale even if he said the absolute bottom of course by a large margin
As long as he buys the right items, which seems to be the case now I bought the eggs
A lot more survival
I'm not a win-win
pretty interesting all right i'm not gonna be seeing oh he already has the axe
yeah of course why am i even questioning 40 minutes in i came out of the force
smoke from boom boys satanic would be huge pick up for them tp
you're a sackle very cool show
and maron actually has a yule so we've been almost instantly cancelled in there
They would have forced the BKB, probably BKB TP's out then, but...
They don't have a counter to that.
I wonder if you could put the enemy in Tombstone.
I was just thinking that. Somebody made a game like that, I think.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Smoke from vision.
It was me, but in case you didn't know.
Veritas spotted. Christ, fuck.
Notifier by them as well. There's 15 seconds on the edge.
The tombstones saved for now.
Go inside the tombstone, we'll pop back out.
Okay, it's expiring now.
Yeah, very interesting time to open on it.
You have 20 seconds of ages left.
This vision just trying to force a reaction to make space on the map.
Tombstone being down's pretty big, that's...
Their main save in the game, they do have the...
Double Lotus now. Well, Triple Lotus if you think about it.
With the frog.
They're gonna lose their value when Slava hits 25.
Is the load is not good for anything else?
I mean, against Curse?
It's good at blocking this member, but they have primarily bought it for this logon, I would imagine.
Yeah, it's good against this member.
Reflecting Curse can be good, but a lot of the time,
Wyvern is still going to get the Curse he wants,
and then the reflected one, if nobody's nearby, kind of doesn't matter, right?
Yeah.
Um...
Cpk wants this desperate.
Knocked in it.
right-hand stand for the dismembered ball.
They don't have to do some save any more.
The left-hand from St. Panic is giving up,
he became a bit of a slider,
can't sound around his way here.
They're jumping on a big atlas,
thought he was on one, as St. Panic.
He's standing his ground in a 1 vs. 5,
it feels like.
Do they have firsts they do to St. Panic?
He's gonna get saved by the two-clean again.
He gave it to the Yulz, comes up now,
arrow connects, and now he's gonna
jump back out at the tiny.
There's the first to try to save St. Panic,
but it's not enough.
Down goes the nature's profit.
You see the Ember hitting pitifully against the Tynix for the first, not able to do much for vision.
And Boom Boy's in a very good spot now.
I think critically, during that entire time when, say, Tanig was trying to kill Kierzic,
I don't believe that of course, it pays on the Tynie there, was there?
It didn't feel like it.
His damage was rather underwhelming.
I'd say that he did 6k and his teammates did, like, 4k combined, but...
Not enough.
Very harder, please!
There's no way out of it, though.
Like, once you're in there on profit, you're not going to back out.
So it has to be really big for the side of boom boys.
And the runner, can they force out the buyback from St. Canning?
Heritage, we've seen this time and time again for the tiny,
you know, the decimating buildings, you think, gang?
It's not the golden grace onto the calls, gets licked up, gets arrowed up,
gets hooked up by his teammate, but it's a dead fucking body.
Is Heritage gonna hit the buildings now?
Looks like it's gonna be a set.
If he was gonna buy back it would have happened already, surely.
That is another force for him.
Absolutely. I mean, anytime you get this tree to be putting these buildings to worst,
no one trying to delay, trying to split push a bit.
Heritage still pounding on the building.
Sportification. The last one for a while.
No more refresh for you.
Ooh, nice link. Good boy.
The hook. And that's only 15 seconds away for Satanic.
Can I just be spotted in the trees off the BKB in retreat?
In fear if there's any capability for you exit.
Get the range, looks like that's going to be it for now.
No one has the Coilo on to two, so can I cut them in a few seconds?
Finally, able to technically fight, but it's a little too late it feels like,
as the Moonlight Shadow will buy them the space to get away for Boom Boy.
Big sequence there.
Late in the half, you've got two minutes for Roche.
Boomboy's probably just going to control the map.
It's the best of their ability now.
Hex as well on Bargo.
The arrow.
Draking in the building way ahead of the enemy core is an accept profit, of course.
What do we got coming from the side of vision?
Anything of importance. It doesn't really look like it.
that Slaughter 25 that I'm looking at as their potential saving grace. I think
that's more important than anything they could get in terms of items is to let
notice get experience but basically that is also up to boomboys I think ideally
for them they would love to fight now and just not even allow the game to get
to that point if this looks like might just bear fruit. Turn around if they
would have just continued down the river they might have been able to
Next at the Slardar.
After waiting very patiently, nine classes walking towards them,
waddling more like it.
Back in his base now, though.
Getting some wards up.
Boomboy's still chillin'.
They should know our foes.
GPK's gonna consume his axe, and for what exactly?
Let's see where the place is.
I wonder what's the best purchase here for him, actually.
Does he have Octomage?
He doesn't, which is obviously really good.
I'm not positive that's the absolute best choice.
I think maybe this might be better in this game.
In anticipation of the Star Art 25, you need to make sure you survive and get your spells off.
It's more important than anything else here, obviously.
At the same time though, they have so much in the way of saving.
They have Largo, Lick, Toadstone, Marana could buy the Wind Waker now.
She wouldn't have buyback, but that would also be in play.
I'm going to spawn and they saw it.
I heard you, Mike.
Oh my God!
Good thing they go.
What's to be afraid of?
The boom boys absolutely dominating Roshan in this series.
He forsaken...
He's forsaken them?
I've forsaken them?
That's not it.
If I had this aneurysm,
We're safe?
We're safe? It sounds wrong!
I don't think it's for some reason.
Maybe it is.
We're safe and I think it has to be right.
And we're having English lessons here. Divine Rapier now for safe panic.
They need damage and well they have damage now.
Slaughterer 25 and Prophet Rapier is a mega upgrade on mission site.
So yes, Tomb Boys have the Aegis and they have an HV.
This is not a clean win here.
It's going to be a difficult push. If anybody gets hooked you could be in a really compromised position
Very careful with how they choose to attack this high ground
Octo ringhorn Marana did not go for the Wind Waker. Do you want to wait for them to get to your base at your vision?
You're in a very good spot as long as you're in a defensive position where you have vision
Like if you see the enemy team, you can get a hook, you can get a curse, you can get a coil plus slaughter jump.
Is that a... oh, it's the AC as well. The timing of these items is... and 25 is just perfect for vision.
A lot of minus armor and right clicks from Satanic.
Prophet can kill Tiny real fast.
Should I actually try to fight him outside the base with a smoke here?
Maybe, no, that's CGPK.
Yeah, this would be a huge pick-off.
He is killable here.
That does not have the Aegis, no one, safe panic.
Also joining, but the Moonlight Shadow gives some cover.
And with that, Heritage in the base, looking for no one.
Avalanche is scary, it's on the face and the blink.
Avalanche, are we gonna click to call it?
Good attempt from Boom Boys, but it was not to be, it seems.
H-oh-oh-oh! It's to be though, it's like the spot to be taken into the distance.
Where's the two stones?
He gets a lick on the skier, he's already happy. See, of course he does have the Aegis.
He gets so lit now, there's the curse on top though, not a whole lot of right foot damage until 9, he goes to break.
But the lick brings it out, and he wants to beat his teammate. That's all he wants in his lap.
He soon is there to save one.
Now the hook again from 9 left, and here's his getting house flipped and right everywhere.
Another two stone apparently.
And it's a save on the skier, he's still maintaining the Aegis for three minutes.
He has, was that refresher, Shard?
Yeah.
No one trying to buy some time now.
It's really nice to have Largo in these times of fights though.
It just keeps licking and keep killing the team.
He had to get a full reset.
Now Karatich can hit the buildings.
Bill maintains that first of two lives, say canning.
He's going to show himself if Searing Chase has to put the BKB early.
He'll use it to wheel off the Rosebanner though.
That's a big item down.
the owner back in place does a hook for my gun again on Tic-Tera-Tich.
It's got the only imposition to get the save.
Steering chains under several heroes.
You see, boomers are very, very careful with the pushes.
Extremely disciplined especially after that game number one.
Zero.
They've got the hatch, they get the hatch as well.
That's a dead clock.
100 seconds does have life act though.
Buildings.
Tier three.
One more right click would have done it.
Your typical eventually finished the job now opens it up off to the range there
Steering chase to the bison time is welcome, he can't be charged for satanic
And the flyback from Huck is gonna force Moon Boyz out to the time being adalent into the HECK
So this will be a dieback, I have to know that, he's not careful
It's off the face shift though
This Moon Boyz still maintains his age, just another minute and a half
When you're right, the Florida is doing work keeping everybody at full HP
Feels like vision has killed off four heroes
And that scared the fuck out of me to jump on top of this and get to kill.
He gave me these arp, popped out, and said,
Teni gets hacked, he gets beaten down into a hole!
He goes, I'm so glad that I have more Teni to say, he calls it!
Game, game, we're going to a game number three.
That was a terrific performance for four players that were able to actually finish the job this time.
You know, we only got a few quick games left, just, uh...
Once again, coming back to that mid-moment, it really changed the trajectory of the game massively.
They were able to fight that fight at the mid-river, and it was on Vision's initiative. They already lost their tower.
They still ended up looking for that fight themselves.
Well afterwards kind of just step by step boom boys just kept finding more and more good moments
I think especially GPK playing an outstanding game on the Ember spirit in this one just really
put the team on his back when it mattered the most.
It was God like pretty early in the game I do believe it happened.
You get good fantasy points for somebody that loses but is still top net worth in
the game because Satanic had a beast year old performance as some would say Cinderan.
I believe it's only your best game that counts right surely you'll do better than this. Okay, I guess that's the previous game was worse more
Okay, well that's good for the fantasy fantasy enjoys right there. We'll go to she ever who enjoys fantasy quite a bit as well
Hey more games is always better for the fantasy followers absolutely and boom boys
They give us more games because they force this one to a third game of this best of three
I want to write down with that one with Ray at winter and Saber here still with me Saber this game
If you only watch the first 15 minutes, you would be very surprised
So boys came out on top you would be but I think curl it each on the tiny once he got the blame
The game kind of started going well for boom boys
they managed to get the puck in the middle and
I don't know they played so clean and it worked out in the end
They proved that they have what it takes to beat Vision, which is very important, not only for this result that they managed to 1-1 the series, but also for their confidence you just beat the best team in the tournament, and it gives you the power to keep going and perhaps take the second game.
Yeah, that meek fight was actually so crucial and I felt like on vision, but maybe they were overconfident
because it felt like they didn't need to defend the tower, the tower was already dead
and they still kind of tried to force it and it actually threw away the whole lead that it actually accrued from the early game
and the game became kind of difficult after that.
I'm wondering if there is a nice stat, some stats person can give us on the win rate of a team if they lose both.
Wisdom runes at minute 7 because once the little light vision were winning
they did actually mess up and boom boys got both xvrude at the 7 minute mark which i don't know i mean
they took a little nice skirmish around here on vision side but it's less i think boom boys got a
lot out of this game like morana especially got her iam's a really nice timing and had so much
impact i want to also point out that the lago that we saw coming out from boom boys this was
the overall first pick of the entire draft i felt like he was having a truly good time
He did for sure. I understand why this hero is banned now
You could see that the boom boys that once they group up it feels impossible to team fight them similar to game one
With this Largo playing his tunes and I'm dying being ready to save it
Never felt like vision had an opportunity to like get get an get an in and win the team fight
They just had to rat and rat
Yeah, he got to a point
I felt like in the team fights like the supports on vision just couldn't really do much in a patch
wasn't really very useful. He was just like waiting and waiting, but they couldn't really
have the damage. He managed to hook someone in, but they just didn't really have damage
at some point.
Yeah, and I feel that we have to talk about the man in the mid-lane, GP Kang. He had
a bit of a rough start to this game, but it did feel like a very good Ember spirit
game winter. I think that he definitely is through as the game progressed, he delivered
also.
Yeah, for sure. He had a stellar game. I think maybe you could only criticize him when at the 7 minute mark when he was moving, he didn't have chains that kind of grieve his team a little bit.
But I think apart from that, outside of that, he was a true force to be reckoned with in the whole game.
And not to mention, he had the buff, the croak from the lago, which made it so disgusting.
93% kill participation? That man must have been everywhere, Rhea.
I mean, he was, you know, the key, right?
So you're playing with a Murana support,
what you're gonna do, you're gonna change into Arrow, right?
You're gonna play with your logo,
you're gonna get the croak on you,
and you're gonna go do loads of damage,
like it's on him, as the Ember is the hero,
with lots of mobility to go and be on the nation's profit
in fights, and I think GBK has to do a lot,
and he did do a lot, and he also acts as part
of this counter duo too, the fuck as well.
So it's like, everything is on him,
And that's why he's the best. I mean, he won a great game.
He delivered with that pressure on him, absolutely.
And we have to talk a little bit about vision as well,
because they were doing very well in the first start of the game.
And a large portion of that came because of certain hero
that a lot of people were very excited to see how we saw on the main stage
the first punch in action rayon. That was a trick.
I asked for a highlight reel because I thought they were going to win.
Who are you going to get it anyway?
Check this out. They put a ward on the gate so they can see movement.
And then when they did 9 class TP down I got a sexy little hook got a nice little kill that early
He was doing a lot of wave dragging he all showed up for his team. We've got those nice little hooks
Puck coil stun into that. It's nice. I
Was I mean I think his early game was pretty solid. I think his rotations with you
I put no way he worked around the his lane partner was good
I think the way he contributed fights like this was good being able to split the heroes of past the mother could heal
this was an insane one he got the tiny yeah he also got tiny three times at the
end and it did nothing there was a certain point where Pudge would blink in
with the BKB and and bite like tiny or GPK on his ember and no one really had
the damage output to follow up we actually get the kill and then the hero
becomes useless because it doesn't do it anything anymore yeah it looks flashy
and then it's like okay well that was fun now watch because they don't want to talk
about how vision kind of lost went to the grip on the game they had in the state
Mr. Ernie say to the game yeah I mean that at the same time I felt like they
were in a position where they could have they could have definitely won the
game I felt like after the the first 15 minutes they were in a fantastic
position they could have just control the game get the Tom get the rush
and the game would be theirs you know but they just I felt like they were
confidence because even the tier one bot, the safe, I don't know if you guys remember, they
tp heroes to defend but they barely, you know, they barely defended the tower and then that
gave them kind of a little bit of oh we have the we have the power to defend the next tower so they
went and defend the next tower and they lost that fight and they lost a lot of their advantage.
Yeah that is just a little bit of an extra tale where we see that the hoop still on the the
tiny. It doesn't do as much as I'm sure. It's also like the support just lost a lot of
usefulness against Ember Spirit later on. You couldn't really do anything against
GPKS of Wyvern and Pudge. But they also look for what's Largo in this fight. Every
time he gets an amazing hook, boom, just gets licked back. It's the counter hook.
Yeah, and like the heals from him, plus the un-dying Soul Rift as well. It's
like they just don't have enough to get through Tiny's HP pool. Meanwhile, you
have like Marana having endless utility throughout the game, like buying
that you will make more pressure on to puck with the like use into arrow buying the eggs
which helped clear out a lot of the like tree amp pushes from nature's profit. So Marana
was often able to go TP back and like push the lanes out easily and safely and then return
back to the team. So like I think we saw a nice little support. Yeah, yeah, there
was a little bit of that. There was also a pretty clear point as to when visions
boss stopped because round of 20 minute mark and that was safer when there was a fight we're like hold on a second boom boys
Have something to say about this one. Yeah as winter was mentioning they got a little bit too
Overconfident in this fight. I think they kind of forced it badly with the with the paco tea and
Very nice team fighting from boom boys. You could see that when Katowice drops his tombstone
now satanic spends like half of this fight hitting tombstone and not really
dealing damage and that was enough for them to like have enough in the tank to
just kite them around for Miero to heal up and deal his overtime damage and
eventually they end up winning this fight getting all five kills for free
which is exactly what they needed as you can see even at this point vision
have like 2k leap but so if they weren't able to win this fight it
it would be big trouble. However, they were able to capitalize on their mistakes and they
took it home afterwards.
But we all heard Puppy after the draft was done. And he said that game one actually winter
should have been a loss for them as well. So are you worried for them at all going into
game number three soon?
I don't think so. I think game one, they played really well. Game two, they just
had a problem with their heroes where they just couldn't have damage at some point.
I think if they just made some small adjustments with the heroes, it would be fine.
The Pudge was kind of like, I don't think they would have done it personally if it wasn't
a 1-0.
I think if it was a 0-1, they would not have tried the Pudge here in this game.
I know you don't agree.
I know you think that he just wants to play Pudge.
I don't like the Pudge anymore.
But I do think that there was that critical fight as well when they hit a really good
I am timing with satanic like he had satanic and all these other items he was ready to go and notice
bkb tps out of the team fight on the mid river as satanic tps into it it was a horrible miscommunication
it lost them like so much synergy it was literally just him versus three heroes which should never
be happening um and i think that might have been honestly the moment for me where they lost the
game a little bit of communication then also issue there yeah i think they just needed to
I felt like they didn't really need to take the fight. They needed to have the patience. I think this game
They lack the patience they were a little bit too ahead of themselves
Maybe the score line played a factor in the head
They felt like oh, we just won we just won the first game and we want to you know
Finish this quickly to zero and they made a couple of bad areas and the game just gone out of control
Yeah, I got out of control a real bad and then sometimes in a game like that
And you have an anxious profit carry I would imagine that there is still a way back in maybe to you know
They just profit you can rat a little bit you can take some towers you can basically go the loan druid root
Saber why didn't that happen? Why wasn't that possible?
They were trying to do it and satanic was able to to read as much as he could it is just not easy to do it against tiny
Which had a blade who's running around trying to pick you off?
Yeah, they prolonged the game as much as they could however eventually in every single daughter game
You have to team fight the opponents once they go the roge and they came to to vision high ground
You have to take the fight with punch-hooking heroes in and hoping for the best which is like the best fight you can get
It was unfortunately not enough because the Largo would just lick you out
Great I do want to talk about that cuz that was overall for a lot over over his pick
Surely that's the that's the answer
You're gonna ban that. Logo. Yeah. I mean he has been first phase banned like every other game
So I suppose you could definitely yeah, I would I would I think it's sanitize is just way too well with the current mid pool
And it just makes it so it's so good against so many heroes
Let's get it out. Yeah, I'm gonna say again like the pick order like if you're first big
I just feel like it's easier to plan everything. I yeah, and this was boom boy with the first pick. We did see the
the team where vision at
first pick. They were the
ones that came out on top as
we're looking at the
international stats going into
this. Largo was. Kind of not
talked about that much. We
see him here sitting at a
comfortable 50% win rate very
much in the picture. But what
made it that he now is first
pick first ban material? Is
everything you need. It gives you teamfight. It's a strong laner and it's not easy to pick
heroes against it. I think you need some special like kind of draw ranger kind of heroes to
deal with him. So for me, it was partly the Largo impact and then partly Vision not having
Darkseer as they did in game one. As the Slurrer, you know, not displayed well. However,
the Darkseer impact, it's like much more visible. He gets the push all the way.
You can see it in the team fight when he vacuums, it's just crazy good.
So I think they kind of need to aim for that.
We'll see which one of these two teams will play crazy good in game number three.
The score is tied for the first time on the main event.
They won here for the international.
We are going to go to a third game of this series and the last people out of
the gate are the two coaches.
They have a lot of work to do in this one.
If we already know, or at least in this series,
it seems to be that a first pick gives you
a little bit of an edge winter,
and you're gonna go in as the second pick team.
How are you gonna try to compensate for that?
What is the plan?
I don't think you have much of a choice
because the ball is in the first pick.
So they're gonna choose something
and you cannot ban everything.
You need to take a trade when you're the second pick team.
And we've seen what Lina undying, Lina loan drool.
I think you just have to pick one
and you have to play against it.
I also think if we look at the drafts from last game as well,
they picked heroes that rush Blinks.
And we already had a discussion earlier today
about how, you know, oh, it's nicer on some heroes
than off lane to get like a helm first or something.
Before this Blink dagger,
instead you have a 12 minute blink out of a Slardar,
a 16 minute blink on a Park.
You have a 23 minute blink coming in on the wide run,
15 minute blink on the podge. It's just like four heroes with blink daggers
whilst the enemy has like sand and kaes and stuff and then outpacing so much more damage and being so much more tanky
that you're supposed to learn on enough to do his damage.
Yeah, that's why the mistake they made when they defended the mid tower was so bad because of the items they bought.
You're buying like fighting items and you're not fighting well.
They were trying to fight but they didn't fight well and they lost the fight.
Yeah, that is a big problem and with that in mind that seems like super easy fix.
You can just say guys don't buy a link or just have one thing don't just calm down. No one's link
Scale up
And they just want to go too fast and don't they know that currently the average game time is 40 minutes plus
You know you can get your blink at minute 30. That's fine, too
Yeah, this tends to happen when you're just winning and winning it
Gives you confidence to be like, okay other teams can't play fast
But I can because I'm just winning everything and honestly it is true as long as you keep performing which they were
Up until this metroid. Yeah. Oh
Yeah, I haven't talked about it
But I do want to give a shout to the satanic nation's profit because I was watching my mini map the entire game and
Looking at the little blue dots that keep coming out of him every time he presses chance
It's just so cool
Like if you have time to go back and look at the replay and watch it
He's just always sending the trance out to scout like when he's farming the
What was that 33 minutes you were telling me he's still blocking
He was still blocking the ancients for 33 minutes
Like they weren't even farming the ancients anymore because they were playing on vision side of the map
It's okay. They'll swing it. Yes
Like the amount of vision he was getting for his team by sending these trance out like when he's farming triangle
He sends like all like four or five trance out into the enemy jungle to scout like where they're playing
So that he knows oh if they're not there, maybe they're smoking to his position
you know or if they are there he knows that he's fine I this kind of like
information control is so powerful but you have all these blinks and you're not
making use of it so I really think there was some problems with the satanic
let down by his team that's what I'm hearing
it might just have been the case now he had his first big natus prophet or
second overall pick I guess and unfortunately for him I did not have the the backup to make it come to a fruition
but everything is different in a third game because now both teams have proven that they got what it takes
to take this series and
Guarantee themselves top six
More importantly stay in the upper bracket because as we heard no one before this series even began
every team in the top eight has a chance to take it all at the end of these four
days what we're gonna find out which one of these two teams is getting that
little bit of a leg up by staying in the upper bracket but to decide that we
will have to go for a third game
We got ourselves boom boys on the radiant side team vision on the dire side and the long-awaited
question has an answer it is team vision with the overall first pick and the Largo did get banned
the Urspirit is in banned, Lone Druid is still in the pool, Rena is still in the pool, I feel like
I touched you know upon all the high priority questions here and how are we going to deal
Oh, the lone druid! I'm sorry, mister!
He thought we were exactly the same thing!
Where's the lone druid? They picked bounty!
The bounty? Yeah!
There's Alina!
Before I came to China, I had a friend telling me that bounty hunter's OP and I was laughing at him.
He told me he had a win streak, like 10 games, and he's certain that bounty was broken.
And it is in man-class hands.
They did banning out the blast game on Boom Boys, so they were afraid of it.
So Vision never like take it let's just first pick this bounty and let's get it done with
You know a hero that we've seen throughout the whole day is the undying. I want to point that one out too because
having a pretty solid impact I feel this hero had and
Maybe better now in the hands of boom boys considering they already have a counter to it themselves
So maybe Vision doesn't want to go for it
But something to keep on our radar is for sure, is it Centaur that gets banned out by TeamVision?
We see Centaur and LeanAnalyte.
Yeah, but I was also thinking whether they need a specific hero to deal with bounty.
So I was talking to you guys about like, you need to have like a confident hero to deal with bounty.
So you don't have to spend so many heroes that can charge at him like Spirit Breaker.
So you can just kill him right away without keeping too many heroes.
Something along those lines.
I wouldn't mind seeing Spirit Breaker.
Spirit Breaker asks anything that can hunt the bomb.
is Akata only special as well so definitely in their wheelhouse very true I'm mainly hoping
that boom boys learn their lesson from game one and two and they bend the dark seer as I believe
it is the one of maybe the only hero that enables this bounty hunter because we saw for both games
that vision they just draft it in a way where they can't really teamfight boom boys and it's
It's usually coming from 9 classes hero, because it's this kind of patch bounty that's just roaming the map.
And Darkseer kind of makes up for that.
However, if there is no Darkseer and they end up with something like a Slurrer, again, it's a big problem for vision
and boom boys can just repeat what they did in game 2.
Pick some more teamfight. They don't have Largo this time, however, they can just pick something else and collect their win.
Maybe... Oh, they ban out the puck.
So, respecting the chance that there's a missle goes mid.
We did see Jujukae, of course, have it earlier.
They pick up the Murana.
Alright.
Bounty, like, kind of like a counter to Murana in a way, because of the track.
Yeah.
It's one line shadow.
Yeah, but I think it had so much utility in general.
Like, it kind of helps counter heroes, right?
Like, it preventively helps stop some heroes from coming out.
This is like Hewlett's build is so effective though, anti-wave push.
I want to know what about Dawnbreaker personally. I'm still lingering on it because it just seems so odd.
I'm like, did they want to pick Enigma? What hero do they feel like Dawnbreaker is so good against?
Potentially, Boom Boys wanted the Dawnbreaker because if the Bounty Hunter goes on anyone, at least there's an instant save as a Wyvern is the other story.
That's a large commitment, isn't it?
It is, it is. Not disagreeing with you.
We got a Winter Wyvern. Support duo, complete thoughts.
Because maybe a little...
Balance. Balance. It's good.
It is balance?
Yeah. Foughty and Wyvern is good.
I like this as well. You deny the Ember from Boom Boys.
Because right now they don't really have a proper setup for this Murana
and Ember is the best setup with this chains.
So now Boom Boys have to...
They have to respond to this.
put the lean on it as we saw it is a nice matchup against Ember. They need some melee
heroes right now. Yeah they do. I mean they still have Undying they have. Undying, Cuzz,
Cloak, some kind of melee hero. They still have Spearbreaker out there if you wanted to.
I've got fingers crossed. I saw a melee hero but Bane is also in the pool when he was
He's banned the entire series so far.
There he is!
So why has he been banned on the entire series?
What makes this hero such a menace?
And there is still the longer coming up.
He's really good against bounty.
Like I've spoken about the spirit breaker against bounty.
You can charge him and hunt him.
Bane can kinda do the same.
Not global range, but you can find him.
Use the sleeve, low committer.
It's also a vision they love to pull their waves
with this bounty when they play their offline.
That is impossible against Bane.
You're just gonna get slapped the creeps will be aggro and you need to lay normally and already been is a very strong lander
So it is not easy
and we got
Profit right you already said that this is a good match up for the nature's profit. No, I think I think I've seen one Druid win it
Oh, oh, yeah, you said it was the other way around here, right? Yeah, sorry. I miss remembered
But Satanic plays both of these heroes to a super high level. So I'm imagining he believes it's favorable
or maybe he believes the rest of the draft makes up for any short-term.
It's kind of annoying. I feel like in this long-distance proper matchup,
Long-distance is afraid during the catapult wave for 4 minutes,
like the MPTP is down with creeps to kill him.
I think the matchup is difficult in the beginning,
so if you can find a way to snowball,
then MP can get away with a lot in the early game against Long-distance.
If you can kill the Long-distance, I think this hero,
if you kill him once or twice, the first 10 minutes,
he actually completely slows the hero down so much.
Yeah, it depends a lot on the offlaner that you have against Longroot, if you are able
to pressure, they did ban out the Darkseer.
Oh, they're both banning offlaners?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the side part about picking profit.
As a response to the Longroot is that you cannot pick your offlaner, and instead there
will be four offlaners banned, which is kind of hard for both teams to be fair.
I mean you say four, but the Largo has already been banned, the Centaur has also
already been banned. So that's six already banned out.
That's still under a lot. Under a lot is really good here for...
Someone who has to ban him. Vision would want it. So the NA are first bit coming out of the
ban phase. So they can ban something else and then leave Moonboy to ban under a lot.
We talked at the very start of this series about especially Miero in this offlane matchup.
He has the widest hero pool out of every offlaner here, the International.
So this surely favors him as he just has deeper pockets it seems like.
Yeah.
If Andorla gets banned I'm a little scared because there's a chance that boomboys can
last pick some lichen again.
Like Nature's Prophet kind of struggles against like swarming fights.
Yeah, but they have the Wyvern.
Wyvern is really good against Lycan.
Yeah, that's true.
It's hard.
I believe boomboys need some form of teamfight.
Honestly, both teams can only teamfight.
I wouldn't be even opposed to like some Mars on Boom Boys,
or some way to deal with this Prophet, like Axe,
it usually gives you a free enough lane.
Oh wait, oh, they depend on the Lord, right?
Yeah, I believe if Vision can pick Underlord here,
it is super nice.
The Underlord innate works with Nature's Prophet TP,
so then when Nature's Prophet TP somewhere,
he gets free movement speed and free damage reduction.
That is lovely.
It really scales up in the lady game.
You think they're just gonna trade like Underlord and then Doom, they just call it me?
You'll be happy with Underlord I think.
Yeah.
Perhaps.
Because the second part of that is if they don't pick the Underlord then I think it's
incredible Underlord game for Boom Boy.
Yeah.
It is like so free.
You have to pick it right?
You don't have a choice here?
Yeah.
Well, I mean they take their time so it seems like maybe they are discussing a certain
choice, a certain trade.
What, NS? Flite then?
Slardar? Still on the pool? Or you didn't like that?
No Megusta as they say in Spain.
This seems like an insane underlord game.
There we go.
I would not want to be Slardar in terms of underlords.
I would not want to play the vision lineup here though.
Yeah, this is like the Axe Rush on underlord this game.
It inhibits everyone's game.
It's also such a good hero against NP.
Maybe not in the lane, the lane you get bullied by the creeps.
But I think in the game it just stops MP from farming the map,
which in a way you regain control as a global against global matchup
and you can catch him with the axe.
So what is the thought that goes behind picking the slaughter over the Underlord?
Because a lot of thought went into that.
We seldom think it's a long time, so they must have considered it.
I think the main reason here is they wanted to have the Amplified Damage,
of course it is to kill off the Lone Drift back on the lanes.
and they figured that they could snowball the game, kill Roche, kill Tormenter and play really quick.
I think the idea is they want to play an outskill against own boys.
It's going to not be an easy task here.
I think Underlord is the best hero to stop the snowball.
And once you get past that stage where the Sada can actually kill you easily,
you're going to have a superior scaling lineup against the vision heroes.
Yeah, I do not like the vision draft at this point, which is why I am calling it quote me on this
Boom boys will beat vision and will be the first thing to do so I ruin a lot of people predictions
Yeah, mine included. I declare
Well I declare the I think visions lineup also sucks so they're gonna win because I am never correct
I'm the worst panelist here and I think two versions of Dropstock, say one, it's easy.
Oh, so you're the nuts tiebreaker, you're the one that can decide the three things.
I'm the rational one, you know, I see underlots in a game like this, I can't go against the underlots.
So you're, okay, so all three are on board other than, well, kind of rare is, but also isn't.
I just feel like there's a portal lag damage and it gets weird and murky in the middle.
in the middle we don't mind that that that implies that we're gonna have quite the back and forth game
I mean in the first game and the second game we definitely had periods where it's like, you know
Especially the first game what's gonna happen next? Well, I'll tell you what's gonna happen next next
We're gonna head over to sunspan and cinder and who are you gonna tell you all about this game number three
Thank you so much shiver. Yeah, we don't get to hear a suraction slacks voice before the game a very
welcome change if you ask me,
Sunspan Heroists.
Game number three between Team Vision and Boom Boys and they're right.
This could put Vision into the lower bracket destroying every fantasy.
Is that possible, Senator?
After such a great group stage, such a great start to this tournament.
I mean, we've seen this plenty of times at TI and other big tournaments throughout
the years, a team that looks unbeatable in groups.
You give the other teams some time to figure out during these break days how to counter them and they come in with some fresh ideas
Maybe they've leveled up. Maybe that couple of days they just got better and for boom boys regardless of how this game goes
I mean, this has been a good showing right overall
so
Definitely a team that has leveled up dramatically since we cast them earlier in the group stage
Early D ward by the way, and that's pretty big good start here for Kat's oh me with everything the panel said I
I feel like we cannot underestimate the potential impact of Bounty Hunter.
Like this just has to be mentioned every time it's picked in these games by the teams that really master it,
which in this tournament for me are Vision and Yandex.
They first picked this for a reason.
There were other S tier heroes in the pool, but they're recognizing the value of this as a noticed.
Get him slapped.
Are you okay?
But I don't know.
Call this well.
He's in a lot of trouble.
LSA hits, so first blood goes to...
They try to give it the characters, and they will eventually give it the characters.
Good start for the lone druids, and we have seen lone druids, I mean, today, especially,
get up to a good start, and then it's just, how do you shut this bear down? Very difficult.
Yeah, the biggest problem in this lane for the vision side is that bounty hunter can't reliably pull waves, because he's playing into Bane.
Bane can just nightmare you, and you're going to lose the wave, and Slardar cannot lane into lone druids.
So this lane is very very difficult and I think the the main pick
This is the main reason they chose the hero specifically to take that play away from nine class
You're gonna see he'll try to do it. He can pull them down. He can't go up
So he has to try to do some weird stacking actually he got away with it Katomi. This was a bit of a mistake. He was late
This might not seem like the biggest of deals
This is a really big deal actually that he was late to this because sure the waves are going to connect again
But effectively nine classes now made a double way for the start are who otherwise genuinely might have been unable to lane almost
Now with the creeps going into tower this will be pushing back his way, so he'll get some experience
You're still gonna lose the lane obviously it's a matter of by how much yeah
No already nine class having a big impact on this game on his bounty hunter the most annoying player to play against probably in the last couple years
years. Of course, his, I'm going to say his heroes haven't been as annoying individually
lately because of the patches. They kind of patched out his Slark support, his Monkey King
support, but still finding a way. And like we talked about, this is a bounty hunter without
the iron shell from the Darkseer. So how much in fact can he have on the Laning
already doing a good job yeah it feels it feels like this was should not have
happened though so yes he did have good impact but I think it was a bit of column
A and B where Bang was late and he just went for it at the perfect angle on bounty
but still you are absolutely going to suffer down here there's no no doubt
about that looking at the other lanes mid is going to be Ember against Lena
this is should be a favorite lane for GPK he's been winning against no one
the last of the previous two games, this should be another good one for him given the matchup
and up top profit buyer.
Is it the matchup or is it the player?
I mean, it's a bit of both.
I feel like GPK has just outplayed him today, to be honest, in the laning stage.
So if he does have an easier matchup, which I would argue this is, compared to at least
one of the other ones he played, I am expecting GPK to just win this lane.
So you can snowball this time on the lina, you played game number one and ended
up losing.
I want to say he started 7 and 0, something to that effect.
With Dota Plus, new all along Syndra.
Actually, it's three minutes in, can we check on Dota Plus real quick?
It is the landing stage of course.
100% for dire.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Is this real or is this a meme?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
My goodness!
Vitalis, all of them is in arrow!
Double-crossed Derek is in a little bit of trouble now.
Notice, getting the bash and getting the kill.
There's a big one going away a vision of course satanic setting it up
We can have
Presence all over the map and of course boom boys not able to take advantage of that top lane
This move that you just saw is what's likely going to make or break the game for a vision in the first ten minutes
Is that exact play where bounty hunter plus one hero?
Getting ganked though this would be another big tilt for vision they get up and this will help no one out quite a bit
I mean he's been losing these lanes individually, but with the help from his team, not too shabby at all.
I really like the bounty hunter profit combination. Obviously they didn't come into play in this mid move, but they did in the bottom move.
Bounty can reliably scout heroes, you bring in the profit, you give profit a stun, so he can guarantee stop TPs through the bounty hunter.
You get to work. Now, as the panel pointed out, this is a really, really good Underlord game though.
So he can obviously start counteracting that later in the game when Prophet goes for moves, you match them with Fiend's Gate.
But we're not quite there yet, obviously. It's gonna take some time.
So Prophet has the advantage this early on, and that one kill in here should inspire them to try to go for it again sometime soon.
You can see Nineclaw is already heading over again. They don't have them on if they're crushed though.
He's sending out a mango soon unnoticed.
I guess I'll maybe look for a nightmare play.
This is just level 3 heritage at the moment.
A couple minutes away from that wisdom shrine, there's no one pulling the wave apparently.
You just don't want to lane at the moment? What is this all about?
It's a decent efficiency play if you're laning into Lena, right?
Farm, camp, plus, great wave. Unfortunately for him, you have to...
ring classic it's the worst possible camp
true they spot nine class we'll have the
skeleton walk available my shadow walk
rather but it's very different from the
clink's one I wouldn't really make much
sense to have skeleton walk on this guy
although like you could argue all Dota
heroes really have a skeleton most of
them that's true gonna get a courier
kill like it too well only a TP on the second one still being an annoying
present in the fact that you have to use extra brain power remember yeah and
you have to center is and you still lose your career is super annoying that is
probably the biggest part of bounty hunters how much gold is being spent
each game on centuries is vision in general to try to counteract it
It's a six minute power run, it's about to come to be.
Now we stay on the nine-point of the Regina Blade as well.
And the first turn to try to run to GPK
would obviously be the bigger kill.
Nice cold embrace for Satanic,
because no one claims GPK.
And now Kata Omi gonna get slowed
and likely picked off as well.
Nice turn of events here from Vision,
as no one, I mean, I wanna say
the first game of the series
where he's coming out on top of the laning stage.
Yeah, he's top net worth.
Obviously it's in big part to his team.
Yeah, they're getting a lot of value out of bringing profit to plays and just bringing numbers and
To make matters even worse here for boom boys. That was a regen rune top
So no one it's depleted his entire monopool and can just get it back
So he can actually look to fight once more and he has TP ready could go for a move down bottom
After killing this wave you wanted to he could consider a wisdom rune attempt
Gangsta don't lay their stuns properly, but probably wouldn't matter too much because we'll still die
5. TP's coming, though, as noticed. Not quite from the 6th, yet. Kata-Omi's in the vicinity, though.
Not crazy, though.
It's off the route onto the slaughter. Notice now, on the run gets Nightmare into the 3-line,
taking off, though. Blood Grenade will slow him. Power shot. Baking him even lower
is noticed. One more right which would do it, but Kata-Omi cannot catch up.
Now we can try to turn the run again. He's through the TP from Satanic, but
the TP is successful compared to the extremely close call. And eventually, Kata-Omi does
die, but took a lot to just get that one kill.
Yeah, they really wanted to go for that dive, but Satanic had to cool down on teleport, so...
Eventually, yes, they do get fur and kill the Bane, but they didn't get the Loan Druid, which was the grand prize there.
Not exactly what Vision Net hoped for, but at the same time, they also didn't lose their Slaugr, which it looked like they might.
So it could have been a lot worse for them.
Now, Miero is about to hit level 6. We'll see if he chooses to skill Fiend's Gate.
We've seen some times underworts not doing that on level 6. I think in this game,
It feels like a really, really good kick-off given the way the lineup is against functions.
How much they rely on bringing in the numbers, so...
I'd imagine he is going to skill the gate here.
Holding a skill point for now.
He will skill it now. Alright.
So Fiend's Gate online.
Profitulity online.
Anything else worth noting?
Quite nice post.
Oh, yes, back-satanic, there he goes.
Get the ult up.
What are you, happy to see those satanic GTs in?
It's the fear of the several heroes, but not satanic.
And that is enough to bring Deregi down.
Jet number two for the lone druid.
He did get off to a good start, but now these deaths are starting to rack up.
He's gonna lose his tower as well.
This is bad news for the boom boys' side.
You're losing the early game against Bounty Hunter Prophet.
You turn up that aggression.
Now the good news for them is Bounty Hunter is only level 3.
So it's going to be a while before 9 Plus gets tracked,
which is going to make things significantly worse.
One K lead for vision here.
There's no one off to the best start of this series.
So we saw what GPK was able to do
on the Ember Spirit in game number two, the TV can replicate it for no one.
9th class, very close call.
And notice seems to also be getting out here, took a lot of damage from the
Lena between Laguna and the
Dragon Slave but not quite enough, couldn't reach the Nightmare
on Katelmi.
Titanic on the Nature's Prophet still working on the Maelstrom,
just basically one component away at this point in the game.
You know, this is a bit slower than in the previous game.
Yeah, you're right. A lot of the time in these high stakes games in Game 3s we've seen teams
slow down. But I also think that's sometimes what separates the championship teams from
the others is that in the high stakes games they play faster. Sometimes, you know, if
Everybody else is going to be timid and play passively around the map.
If you are the one to take initiative more often than not,
you're probably going to find success playing like that.
And you can tell Vision don't seem very phased from that game two that went wrong.
They're going to run back two of the same heroes between the slaughter and the profit.
They're once again finding their bounty hunter a lot of success here.
And this line of his craft is to play quickly, not to play slowly.
So even if the stakes are high, I don't expect them to just look to farm here.
Yeah, I do find it interesting that they back-to-back games go for the nature's profit despite losing despite satanic being top net worth in the game
So he wasn't that bad early really you think back. Yeah, what he has been in this game number three
Yeah, it's just a different lineup by design. It's it makes a ton of sense to play it this way in this game
So I think it's very good to see that he
You know a lot of satanic games also on the profit like you mentioned
He will just be farming a ton in the first 20 minutes, but this time around he's already been in five kills out of the seven
very liberally teeping into fights. He does have slightly lower net worth as a
result, like we talked about. The Maelstrom is coming out in a hundred gold.
I think last game he added about 1040, so he's a minute and a half slower on his
first farming item, which is actually quite a bit, but well worth it for what
he managed to accomplish around here.
Both teams trying to deny the runes, same.
TPK will be successful in the early co-9 class, running over yet another century.
Nice shadow for him. Notice now on the run
Arrow nice setup. Thanks to the install the brace though. Well the brace to keep him alive a little bit longer
Do the advantage to finish them off?
Hopefully he will not survive the transformation a nice curse onto the underlord
He will lose the slaughter those with the one-for-one to start this fight as satanic now on the run finds himself in a
Precarious spot inside the bit one more right click done to the job
LSA from GPK, and to Miro's right-click, that's a lot of damage onto no one trying to run away from it now.
But Saves will have to leap and a star storm to boot, and another cold embrace from T'Falus is Miro.
Not sure if they have the damage, but he's finished it off.
There's no run-up for the 5 seconds for no one, getting slowed down thanks to T'Falus.
No one.
Miro just has to dodge this.
Will do so successfully and run away as a result.
Back to the run-up.
We'll keep you back as saved.
Fairly getting outside the reach of these trees.
I believe the fight has finally ended.
Very very close engagement here, but...
Yeah, nobody really coming out significantly ahead there.
Obviously the good news once again for Boom Boys is that the Bounty Hunter is still not level 6.
That is coming up in about 40 seconds time if you take the Wisdom.
And not only do you get the trackball, but you probably win that fight with track as well from having more mobility.
It is going to help significantly or excuse me for more damage as track has changed.
Many times. Yep.
Here it is rounding out the nails and hit pretty shortly. Spear vessel now on to no one.
They charge as he can get in this early stage of the game.
Yeah, so that's also 6 for Bane, which is obviously huge here.
It's not a super reliable grip game because you can get cursed or you can get stopped
by a blink crush from Slardar or of course a bounty hunter's on you with Shadowwall
that can stop you.
Once these fights break out and develop, you're probably likely to find a full duration grip
on one way or the other.
It would have helped out a very big deal in that previous type of fight they were in.
Link now online for notice.
How aggressive they want to be now.
Exactly.
This is a huge pickup because now Bounty Hunter can scout ahead.
You can blink crush and then you can stun out of it with Bounty and in the meantime
profit teepees in and it's just going to be clean kills. So the map now for
boomboys is going to be super tricky to play. You can see nine class scouting out
in the mid. It's going to see TPK.
Get the tracking to the stun, searing tanks from no one. That crush from notice.
Good five TPK. On the side of the board though, look at this.
Sage Annie getting ganked. The double proc onto the pit and Sage Annie.
One more right click does him in. So very nice trade across the board for
Both teams, obviously the position one going down,
the bigger of it, so boom boys,
I guess are happy with this exchange.
Oh, save.
Oh, he saw him.
He isn't, oh, he's not gonna chase.
He's perfectly fine.
I thought he was gonna go for that chase for sure.
Oh, he's so good.
He radically, he's fine.
Yeah, okay.
All right.
Still going for the short on notice,
That's an extremely nice pick up, one of the heroes that just picks up shard instantly when they can.
Yeah. It's such an incredible farm speed increase. And obviously massive for fights.
16 minute rune, will be bottomed in a case. I soon change onto two from no one arrow. Will be set up thanks to the nightmare.
there so that's a free beyond to do call us have to owe me get to have to use the
fiends rip there's just things out of the meantime by nine class
don't hunting couriers it seems
we'll be the typical build in character the owner in two eventual ag is
noticed
And we'd love to try something on the characters, but you know that there's backup.
It's actually a really hard team to get a pick-up on because you have to save from Nightmare,
you have to beam skate after disposal at any time.
No one.
I'm gonna try his best efforts here, carry chains, we have to crush the follow, I'm
gonna...
Oh my God!
Sit down!
He's all to actually just instigate him, alright!
This is from across the map, just a casual kill, no big deal.
Looks like they want to try to get more.
Not going to happen though.
Nice boss cannot go through the barrier. Believe it or not, he gets the track off though.
Now they do have vision.
Four vision.
Don't think you're really thinking about Tier 2 here.
whatsoever I think it's gonna take quite a while before vision are knocking on
those towers but I think they would love to take the mid tier one and start
accessing the enemy triangle but for the time being not able to
I'm going to go back up for a little bit here, there's nine class.
We'll finally be exiting this area, he's been a nuisance all game long.
And how close are we on the Underlord to getting towards, okay, he already has, Agatom Scepter
online.
Yeah, that's big.
a huge item for him and I'll put a shard into a Lotus so it will obviously be very good against
the Slardar first base until he gets 25. So he's taking the Lotus game. Slardar, Ember,
Chains, and Raph first. Potentially, Perse is still a bit of a wild card, but very good
against Slardar Ember. That already is easily worth it. Yep. So the rest is just luxury on top.
Another raft of nature coming out.
And yeah, Satanic has, aside from just finding kills with the rest of his team, has been left to his own devices, I want to say.
The only times he's died is when he's trying to set up a gang.
Hasammy Olner has the Dragon Lance, BKB a thousand into it.
And for no one looking to get DKB next as well, so they're gonna line at least two of those
And the question is just starter doing the same absolute
So if they pump the same speed, which is not
Whose worth more gold if they know the bear the thing
Ok, trucked on.
Bean's gate being used though.
You can see the arrow coming out of Satanic as well.
He's going to get rooted yet again.
Extremely low.
Trying to stay alive thanks to the cold embrace.
Can you get that last right click from the arrow?
The clicks come in and Satanic actually gets the kill.
The doppelganger, the triple turnaround.
He survives unbelievable play.
Satanic getting all the help from Ducales and friends.
My goodness, what a huge turnaround.
It's pretty rare that Satanic tips a teammate, but that was well-deserved.
Dukal is what an insane sequence from him.
Perfect, perfect, perfect embrace.
And right now they're getting another one.
Oh my goodness, just like that.
The tables have been turned upright.
6K lead for Vision.
They get 7 as they take a pure one tower as well.
And they have the Slardar, so Tormentor should be very easy as well.
Or the roast potentially.
I think the roast is a lot harder to pull off though,
but tournament to right now would be super easy. However, today so far we haven't really seen vision play any objectives
So I don't know if they're gonna be bothered with it, but look at this from the college just you would have had stuff
Everything coming together
Nicely provisioning that with no lifesteal at all
Just the heel and good positioning tree lines to their advantage as well. It's a narrow active double take
I'm not sure if that would have made a difference, but start to walk back
Changed his mind maybe could have made a difference, but we lay now and those are track kills ladies gentlemen
So 8k that's why this is balloon all of a sudden
And it's a bounty hunter
Advantage for vision
Of course it's caretich to this axe
So what do we got BKB laundry excuse me BKB profit now? Yes?
You said they weren't gonna get at the same time that is correct because profit is five thousand ahead of the others, right?
I think Slaughter and Ember's might overlapped like, cleanly.
Only a few minutes to go on both of them, but yeah.
And now, Slaughter too, Karsten du Palland, the bear is getting the hell out of him.
You can see the whole team joins the party to do just, I'm the fiercest guy ever as a result.
The saddest death so far at TI, and Miero's gonna follow suit and again it's gonna be a team wipe.
My goodness!
Goodness basically a team like the Lena often after the time being a vision. My goodness. This has the moon out of control now
Now that beans gate
They have two pretty close games
But vision have a dinner reservation at seven. Yeah, so
Mechanic has to eat at a specific time. Don't want to be late for that
And well, if they keep up this pace, Vision has been one of the few teams this tournament
that has been able to close out games really quickly, and I, when I say really quickly in
this patch, that's probably something between the 30 to 40 minute mark.
They've done that multiple times, and this is the type of game with this lead.
If they get an objective through, let's say they get Tormentor and Roche, and they
get another fight like the one they just had down bottom, they take a set as well.
And then they're up like 25k in 30 minutes.
Well, looking at this from the boom boys' perspective,
you're on your last breath here in this series.
If you make another mistake, it's almost over.
Alright, look at this fiend's gate.
Oh my goodness.
That was rough.
Yeah, you're just making the curse even better
and setting yourself up for chaining down of the stuns here.
So many kills, so many track kills.
Here, here it's like, uh, understand.
Ooh, my goodness. Alright.
GPK laughing.
What the dichotomy is here is to call and get killed up by Miero.
Vision, wanna get some retribution for the loss on the Liver.
Looks like they'll get the trade that benefits them.
Miero, fights the dust.
12k lead for Vision.
We're close.
Open up for that Laguna Blade, though, for nine class.
Miero, gonna be sidestep, though.
He is burning very low.
He'll survive.
Is this enough provision to take Crush?
Looks like it, they have to crush it, Hayes of course, but now Blue Boyz...
My channel, he's gonna spot them though.
In a transient place to kind of scatter out for the arrow to come.
It does hit Hayes' hero.
We don't have them Laguna Blade, so all the burst damage is kinda out now.
Dragon's like doing a good amount of work, but it looks like we'll have to give it up eventually.
Make vision more important, so you can't take twice the first Aegis of the game.
That's a pretty damn good sign of provision that they finally get a rose.
I'm thinking we've seen Grip yet, right?
No, I don't think so either.
I mean, the last couple of fights have just been visioned just piloting on their killing
clock instantly. There hasn't really been much counterplay at all.
The Winter's Curse has really set the terms for every single fight.
Oh, Heritage is there in trouble. More important than the hero.
That's a lot of gold, again, going the way...
they can you track the bear now I don't know well they still got a lot of gold anyway
I would think you can't but it's a hero now though yeah surely surely I still feel like that's
not fully consistent against the board but it's just slotted arrow is gonna hit inside the pit
you know I'm trying to create a little bit of space he gets gone and there's the first
piece but they're gonna instantly cancel Gia too you follow us and he's old and no one with
with a double searing change. This is a double dead support.
LSA is gonna hit Satanic, he's made his way over,
and Miara is just putting down hits of analysis
just to get away.
No four minutes on the edges for Satanic
and the rest of Vision.
They can play however the hell they want.
I think you can definitely make a case for 25 minutes,
and you can make a case that this is the best
game of the time for the Colas.
It's like everything he's doing is super high impact.
clutch factor. Wyvern is a clutch this hero and he's just been nailing it over and over and over again
in this game. Like sometimes in a 25 minute game you find like one good curse, maybe one or two
good cold embraces at the right time because he's found five of each. Yeah, he's been very big this
game. Massive swings in every single moment from him. And this is kind of a sign of how things
are going right now for the boom boys side. They, I mean, GPK farming the complete opposite
side and you just better hope that nine-class doesn't stumble upon him kind of
the risks you have to take when you're down to this degree that's a good point
when you when your map gets constricted this much what the cores of the other
team will usually do is spill over on your side of the map but bounty hunter
is the perfect hero to having that situation obviously nine-class will be
aware soon enough that well we haven't seen Lena for so long on anything he
must be playing up there and there's no tell for the lean-out at all because
bounty is never showing so
Titch, you're gonna cross again gonna try to set things up gets the vision
without the ult or what kind of low he gets already from the truck and the right click
he is dead just like that. It's gonna be a trade for the bounty hunter but definitely trade going the way of vision
again it's the other taking massive right clicks from Satanic he takes the
leguna to the base four steps in to secure the double kill to secure the
Tier 2 Tower and Vision continuing to snowball in this game number three.
And of course GPK back as well, so he honestly would have been better off just
chilling in the top side of the map.
And what Vision are proving in this series is that all the heralds are right.
Torments are just not worth the hassle. Just pretend it doesn't exist in the series
all together I don't know if that's not true game one they had a lot did they
kill it oh yeah boom boys killing I should be wrong like maybe vision got it
once overrated just moving to that side of the map did not work right time to
check on my fantasy how many tormentor cards I have on vision this is a
bit of a problem if you pay might run into some trouble here do call us gets
up to slow again there's a lot of trouble the
Hurricane Mike, as guess who joins the party? It's Satanic again. You cannot go anywhere as boom boys
They now have a close to 20k lead this ages
You say they've gotten a ton of buildings, but they've done a lot of kills finally active sector
He's gonna be spotted those searing chains for the bear down autonomous creature no longer. Is he will go to the grave?
I
You are right. They did kill a tormenter one. I think they've killed one on the arrow
They hit an arrow right outside their base and they're not gonna do much about it because it's handsome. It's just can right now
The ages about to expire here for Satanic you get the tier two top
It's got the only able to secure the shrine
It's overlining for boom boys, but this is getting out of control fast.
How good is their high ground, would you say, compared to the last couple of games?
It doesn't feel particularly great to me.
I mean, the high ground defense?
Yeah.
You know, the Lord is pretty solid with the adds, but the issue is, the vision don't
necessarily have to push.
I think they're going to massively out farm and map control and they're going to
It's almost impossible for boom boys to farm the map without getting picked off
against bounty hunter profit and ember
so even if you trade on farm
okay, we'll be for a
Oh, the LSA misses and now GPK trying to pick out Wyvern as their beams gate coming in
and he's going to continue to right click to call us though
Oh my god!
Satanic completely instigates him
Don't find Save as well, nothing going the way of Boom Boyz, vision in charge, for sure,
Satanic.
What does he have on him right now?
The Daedalus close to getting Satanic, just a thousand away from finishing that.
He is huge.
8k lead between him and the number two, which is on his team.
He almost has the net worth of the top two enemy cores combined.
That is.
They have 20, they have 26k, he has 25.
Yeah. If this game doesn't end soon, he's gonna beat them, actually, because of how much of the map he owns and the fact that he could just teleport to farm, obviously.
Here, it's desperately looking for something on his bear, has access to like two camps on the map.
That's pretty much it. You can see nine-class on the prowl up top.
Assuming that well boom boys have to get up here if they want to find any farm because my four teammates are gonna keep the bottom half
Unlock
If you can't company just have to stay in base that is the unfortunate
My soul fat GG is gone and Team Vigil will secure another spot into the upper bracket
and Boom Boys unfortunately for them will go to the lower.
That was a stasis game.
They run back the Prophet plus Slardar that they lost within the game just prior,
but this time around they couple it up with their first pick downy hunter.
And it's a totally different experience for both teams to play this one compared to Game 2.
That was a beatdown, I mean, what can you say?
The favorites win, they were tested.
But this game is...
The game responded really well to a game you lost.
I mean, in some ways, it was like, ooh, I should have won 2 off.
You could argue they could have won the first game.
I don't know if Puppy was meaning an interview with me, he said they should have lost Game 1, but...
this game was a statement game and I think this bounty hunter is going to be a
heavy contention point against this team like I mentioned we've also seen
Yandex have great success with the bounty I wonder if other teams are going to
catch on. Well Satanic ends the game 13 and 2 on his nature's profit I don't
think the game gone went on long enough for him for that to be his best
game right. Another fun fact about this game the highest kill
participation out of anyone was Wyvern position 5, Dukalis was in 28 out of 32 kills.
I would give him MVP for this game.
Yeah, for sure.
Satanic was in 27.
I mean, they really came together.
Satanic was in 27.
Noticed was in 25.
Nine class was in 27.
And Dukalis in 28.
Just beautiful.
I ironically ember with the lowest kill participation as D.
Let's go to the stage for an interview.
Hello, everyone. Welcome to the final interview.
Now, next to me is the next team from Vision.
Let's attend it!
Hi, I'm the only one who just left.
Absolutely. Thank you so much, my friends.
Say, Tanec, so good to see you.
My first question has to be,
why the hell are you so good?
You have the best stat line out of any carry in the international.
I just don't get it.
Why are you so much better than every other person here?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, but I...
Do you remember anything about Game 1?
I played 1-3, yeah, I remember.
Okay, okay, good.
What I'd like to ask you about the end of the game,
Snapfire going for the ancient, kills themselves.
So they can buy back, hit the ancient,
get that glyph down, and then go in.
What is the communication like on the team?
Are you guys discussing this,
or is this just an old man,
no one saying, I'm going and strapping?
If we take exactly this moment, he just said zero words and go in.
Alright, last question. You guys go into this tournament. Everybody wants to take you out. The target is on your back. Yet, you still survived. Quite a big series here. Do you think anyone's going to be able to take you down?
I believe in this tournament, some teams can cause us a lot of troubles, but I think we'll still win.
Okay, I think you'll still win.
I believe we will win the last round of the teamfight today.
You said that if there is a chance for a teamfight, you will face the team spirit.
What do you want to say to the opponent?
Let's see who is the strongest.
Thank you for accepting our interview.
We'll give you the rest of the time.
He believes that there will be challenges for Team Vision,
but at the end they still win.
Well, definitely Boom Boys did prove to be a challenge,
but they did still win,
and this game number three was firmly in their hands.
This was a little bit of a tough point here for me to make because all of my
panel and especially Saberlight said, I declare that this one is in the back of
boom boys. I didn't say that. No, they're Saberlight did. Yeah, but you said all the
panel. All the panel, especially Saberlight. Yeah, I did. Okay. Well, Shiver, a broken
clock is right twice a day. How many times is an unbroken clock right? Only
once. And that's all I'll say about that.
Alright, that's very philosophical. Thank you SaberLife. Now this game was getting out
of control real fast because at the start of the game winter it did look like we were
in for a fairly even game.
Yeah, I would say the first 10-15 minutes were really good for the boom boys despite
Q80 having kind of like a meltdown. I think that if they could farm another 10
minutes, keep the game stable, they would have been okay. And then the underlaw
X comes into play, they play the map, they get picked off, but they were just constantly
reacting to this bounty. I just felt like they didn't really need it to react, like the TP
bought so many times and this is one of the few bad fights that the TP into, they should just
let the loan to die, play the map, farm, push, and just wait and see, you know, just try to
make your own plays. They were just constantly reacting and I felt like they just lost the
game because they lost their nerve in the game. Yeah, this was two fights back to back
that went this poorly for boom boys and Ray and when that happens, there's no chance. It's just done.
Yeah, I don't think your loan drew is just supposed to have six debts.
Cause like even in a lot of the bad games in the group stage of this hero, I don't think the main
drew it was ever really in that much danger.
They always, uh, they're, that's a new tweet to my right there, that's the cure to it.
Actually, don't do that to my boy. I really like Curitif. He's really, really nice to help you.
really is. Um and I can feel
is frustration like it sucks
when you've had such a close
and good series and then it
kind of ends on a stump like
this. But I really like how
they utilize the slaughter this
time around compared to last
time. I think notice did so
much in it and you could see
when the bear would be found
on a sideline and they can
just simply pointed it with
the slaughter and then
bring in like a slow from
winter and then the nature
is to be in and then it's
just dead and it's like the
bear can never farm that bear
can never push the bear
can ever have impact. Yeah
No one with an 8013 record. Yes, that is very good
And it would be so easy for us to say, you know, lobby gets the MVP
But no, it's time for the supports winter. It's time for the college to take this MVP. Well deserved
Yeah, he had like some like 100k cold embrace or something in one of the fights
You know, I felt like this game he did a
Lot more than an average violin would do in a game like this
And I think it's a good game for Wyvern, but he did accessor any well like with some of the clutch
Cursors his co-embracers and the moves that he was making was playing with the right heroes
And also the fact that he had a nature's prophet because I think we've with Wyvern
You kind of want to move around in this game and nature's proper is perfect
And we mentioned that why they picked MP into the laundry because you want to TP to his lane and just mess up
He's already game and they did it so many times and maybe some of it was avoidable like six death
Not that great, but you saw the game plan that the game and planned out
Played out very well for a vision in the end say where your predictions are safe. Good. Good
Yeah, I also want to highlight notice I was surprised how by how incredible he did in the lane
I don't think it's easy to lane this slaughter bounty against long druid bane
That seems like an absolutely incredible lane and they just managed no problem
They they beat the lane and then eventually satanic was able to TP in they open the tower and they were able to bully the
The laundry afterwards, but that only happens if you don't get to destroy the first five minutes
Yeah, it was a fantastic series to watch our first three gamer here on the main stage lady gentlemen
Thank you so much for your thoughts for the first half of the day
We are gonna shortly head over to the second half of the day where Nazi and her team will take you through that
before we get to our next series, which will be a liquid ticking on a team Jannex.
We are going to hear some words from both of the teams, starting with Tofu and Nisha,
about how they feel coming into this VESTA 3.
I think overall we can be really happy with our group stage.
Maybe due to the fact that we made it straight to the playoffs and skipped the elimination round,
but also overall we had like some setback in every game.
More than we lost like the first game in the series always,
and then we have to bounce back.
Usually in groups I don't really care how many losses you have.
But it was like back in my mind, like if you go three and two,
it's like, well, I guess it's kind of scary.
It wasn't necessarily clean, but I think also like a good thing out of that is that we had to learn something out of every series
and usually when you win you like take it a bit more easy and just like move on. There was like
Emotions involved in every series that people had to overcome fight against but also learn from so I think that's very good
I mean the teams we played were pretty hard, especially like the last two
I think that we ended up going for one and very happy with that because we would have
had to play the elimination round which we failed last year.
We also have good momentum in the team right now and I think the mood and vibe is very good
so I'm happy with how things are now.
When it comes to Yandex, our next opponent, I think they're probably under-performed
in the group stage or against us, I don't know, but I think they usually were a good match-up against us.
I don't think we won against them before that.
I think everyone, both side of the teams, fans, everyone just looking forward to a good match.
I don't know how to say it's been a while that we played in front of the crowd.
We're just going to give it our best.
Feel the energy from the crowd
But I mean sounds kind of hype to be honest
TI also it's always special the TI magic
Just get out enjoy the game see the fans
Feel the hype feel the crowd
I think we are one of the most experienced teams at least in terms of age and like career decorations
but
You know, it's falling out of favor to have massive crowds. So I think that's just what we're looking forward to
I don't think you go into tournaments thinking you're going to lose either, so it's not really on my mind, I guess.
But we will win, yeah, top one. That's the goal.
I think our journey through the group stage has been pretty rough.
We weren't sure what's best for our team, like what are the heroes that we should play.
Maybe we had our expectations too high, so when we had some rough results in the first place, our confidence was kind of shaky.
The games that we played could have gone either you win or either you lose, it's like 50-50.
We're happy to make it out at this point.
I mean, even with the delta predictions, I didn't put myself in 4-0 or 4-1. I just put myself in a survival group stage.
I think the expectation is going to this very definitely hurt us because people are putting us in parties like the top two teams
I wasn't shocked at first because I knew our conditions conditions of our team
TI is all about like mentality and we need to be relaxed and in a good state of mind to perform
In the playoffs we're gonna figure out what's the best approach for the games
In the call my best results have had this mentality and I think that's the best way to do it
No more messing around from us and we're gonna perform more responsible
Going up against Liquid, we're not focusing so much on the match itself, more on ourselves
and trying to get ourselves to a point where we feel confident in our play.
We want to win the whole thing and Liquid is just one obstacle to overcome, so right now
we're just focusing on getting better, fixing our mistakes that we have and this is basically
improving at any point we can.
For me personally, I just need to focus on Toffu and Ace because they are my teammates
from previous team and they think they are better than us.
I'm going to prove them wrong because they suck.
TI still definitely holds a special place in people's minds.
For me, TI means something bigger than a regular tournament.
I think it's still by far the most important tournament of the year for everybody.
On the TI, you can make a history.
If you want to be considered one of the best, you have to at least win one.
So definitely it's still very important for people to do.
It's not about the money, it's not about the fame.
Nobody has won it three times, so I want to get there.
I've always been dreaming of lifting up these ages and have my name on it.
We have two more to come and it
isn't just those four
personalities that we saw in our
content piece there. There's
three more that we get to
welcome to the panel here
starting off with T. I 13
winner liquid alumni Insania
down there. Of course, we have
FVM is consistent and our
and I insane you down there.
Of course, we have Effie, Miss Consistent,
and our Earth Spirit Connoisseur,
and Quinn, the Callahan, our two-time TI finalist.
But now you've been on more TI panels than finals.
Well, getting there, not quite yet.
Almost.
I am very excited to be here.
TI is such a special tournament,
it's such a treat to get to be a part of it
in any way, shape, or form.
And I'm just super excited to get to watch these teams
play as I have a very personal connection to both of them.
Yeah, it's actually crazy to see just where, you know,
your old teammates from Game and have ended up for themselves, but I do want to check in with you all the way down there and say
How you're feeling for ti joining us here?
And I know ti 10 was a while back where you're paneling them at this time around a retired player tied man
You're supposed to be here, you know. Yeah, it's really nice to be here
I also need you know ti is a very special event to me. I think
It is the thing that we strive for all your career
You wanted to you know become the champion and it's cool to see that it still means so much to all these like
new school players that maybe they weren't around for like the really glorious years,
but you can still hear like Mal, they talk about it. It's it's something special.
It's not about the money. It's about what it means. And being a TI winner,
I think is something that everybody wants to work towards.
Yeah, and it's super special if you get to come into main stage note that we have our top eight here to see
Liquid, Yan X, X teammates of some of our panelists here to co up against each other and hopefully continue
their dreams of the upper bracket into a TI final.
Yeah, I mean, it's not an exaggeration to say that these are the best teams of the year and it's been a very competitive and
Incredible year of Dota, but this is the culmination of it and ultimately someone's going to become the winner
And that's what we're here to get a front row seat to all right
Well, let's stop talking about our teams because it's not too much time between serious here
We can start up with liquid and what we're expecting coming out from them and saying you the fact that it feels like a pretty rough
Year for them having lost their off-lane or having lost you as well having a bit of a void to fill in since last year
Yeah, I mean they I feel like it's interesting like this team essentially consists of the remnant remnants of like gaming gladiators and
Liquid and these were like the main two rivals. We were the rivals throughout like all of I think 2023-2024
Yeah, that summer out there and they pound together as well. We didn't we're on the panel we're rivaling here
We're they're rivaling in the games. They're playing up against malady and Watson
Obviously part of gaming gladiars, but more importantly they got ace and poker
Which is like two of the star players that we struggled against all the time. So it's cool to see that like
Liquid is literally just like the people they struggled with where the players they decided to go for when they wanted to like build their new team
Yeah, I think it's also so special so special these players have been together for so long
Like they've been together all the way since the start of COVID on two different teams together
And I think players that stick together like that over long periods of time you build the chemistry
You build that cohesion and it's also just such a cool story lines to people who have said, you know
We could have been on other teams. We could have taken different paths
We're going to stick it out and stay together and build something because we care about not just building something in general
But with each other and this is five years together as lane doers over a thousand games together
Me or as lane doers, but now they're split tofu took on that role of the position five
So you know they could still have some semblance of being in a team together with ace
But to me that says a lot about how much they value team liquid and their desire to play on it to split up
their duo of playing that many games together. And a lot of the issues that I would attribute to
maybe Ace looking a little bit shakier earlier towards the season was because
his lane partner was taken away. But now that we're reaching the end and the culmination,
like we mentioned, it seems like Ace and Boxxy have kind of filled that flow and fit into
that role that Ace and Tothi used to have. I mean, it's also something that Liquid have
done before. I mean, you can speak to this more, but y'all season with 33 was pretty
pretty shaky for a large majority of it. But toward the end, you sort of got it together.
What do you think it is about like liquid that lets y'all do that? Because there's something
about this team that when the agus starts getting closer, they start ramping up.
I think it has a lot to do with the way the team is built. Like the philosophy within
the team is that the tournament throughout the year don't really matter in the sense
that they don't need to win them. But the point is to go to all these events and
learn about our team, learn about what makes us good, and learn about life.
This roster on the lake where it lost a shaky year it has been rounding a corner getting
to win the previous online corner that people coming into the international here and they're
hoping to make that group stage dominance count.
They're striving to prove that there are four and one team for a reason.
Coming in as the high seas but will they take opportunity in the shakiness of their
opponent?
I'm going to show you a little
bit of the new roster. Oh, five
here. Junior being the only
remaining player of the 12
months ago. Yeah, next that we
saw such as veteranship hasn't
led them to a lot of success
throughout this year, but it
was enough to go back from a
rough group stage a situation
in which not a lot of people
thought they would be in here.
it comes time to be on main stage, not just enough to scrape through group stage.
Yeah, when you look at the year that Yandex had, most people came into this tournament with the
expectation that they would be one of the teams, if not the team to beat. They've had a fantastic
year with three first place finishes and a lot of second and third podium finishes. And they
looked like the raid boss in a lot of the tournaments they played most recently at EWC.
Then here comes TI group stage. Even though you're good, even though you've had a fantastic
year the nerves can hit you things can change but we heard from Malady in that interview that he
thinks that it was close a lot of the games that they lost they could have won and the pressure
we've got to be feeling it right now but i think they're gonna rise to the occasion. Yeah i think
in a lot of ways ti like as long as you make it that's all you really care about i think that's
very true because so much of this first part of the tournament is about learning it's a long
tournament it's a double olymp it's a lot of games and so the more you can learn about
yourself, about your team, about the heroes you want, the meta is such an important thing at TI,
I think that can be an advantage as long as you survive. And they did, that's what counts.
And now they can use all those losses to their advantage.
I think that's what they have to prove today though, right? They have to prove that they did
learn from these games. And it wasn't just like, we're not that good, we're a little bit shaky.
It's, we took all these games, we tried out all the stuff that we want to try out and we
realized what doesn't work. And I think Yandex this year, I haven't seen that from them really.
Like the tournaments that they've done well in, they've come in and they've looked hot from the
start. So I think for them that is a big challenge and they have to prove it to us.
They have to show us that they are capable of doing that.
That's very true because even that raid boss moment that I mentioned during the most recent EWC,
they were completely crushing. They weren't put in situations where they have to recover from bad
lanes. They weren't put in situations where their drafting was weaker and they usually come
into tournaments with ideas that set the pace for most of the meta. This time around,
it seems like they're just following what the rest are doing and aren't doing anything
that's signature to them outside of a few exceptions like Shira Juniors Invoker being first-phased or
Saxa's Marana coming through in a draft. Being more you know retaliating rather than the ones
being leading the charge and having their foot in the door there but I wanted to know more about
when your perspective when you say you know implementing these learning lessons for themselves
whilst they've had that experimentation where has it mostly been what roles or
what ways do you see that play out? I think it's a I think it applies to all the roles
But I think especially I've actually feel like the safe lane has been weaker than in prior tournaments
I look at malady and Watson they were extremely dominant throughout this year and I come into this tournament
And it wasn't quite the same
I think they're safe when in a lot of games is not going as well as it was before and that leads into the other lanes all these small
Changes and maybe lane goes slightly worse
And now it affects your other lanes because there's less ganks and things like this
And so I look at especially the younger players on this team to how do you stand up with the ti crowd the ti pressure?
Because it's a different beast and liquid is much more experienced
And so I think the onus is on Yanex in a lot of ways to prove that we are up to the task.
When we look towards how we had that, what the year had been, one of their second places was a
Flossland that happened here in China.
And that was actually the first time we'd seen many people on that roster take to a main stage.
I know Saksa doesn't fall in that category.
I know Watson and Malady don't necessarily either.
But CJ was the one for me in senior whereas like he didn't feel that he was playing to his level on a main stage.
And I'm hoping because that happened so long ago, November last year,
a lot more time is developed and it's not going to be a factor today at TI.
I think your first event in front of a crowd is always a little bit different.
You don't have that experience at all and you don't know how it's going to affect you.
I think a lot of players think to themselves, it's going to be fine,
it's going to be just like any other event, but it's not.
It's different. There's a different energy,
there's a different vibe going on in the arena,
and sometimes it brings out the worst in you
and sometimes it can enable you to shine the brightest.
And I think having been there before, it's a completely different time.
Your second time, you're a lot more prepared for it.
And I think for him, he has been one of the most improved players of the year.
And he has the skill, he has the capacity, he knows how to do it.
And now it's just like, take that experience you gained last time you were here,
and prove that you can do it.
Yeah, I love that idea of some players shine brighter on the TI stage
because it's a make or break moment.
Like there's an energy in the room,
and you're choosing what you do with the energy.
Does that energy take advantage of you and you crumble under its pressure?
Or do you channel that into your gameplay and make yourself better?
And I don't know I'm a big one. I'm a resort earlier today. Yeah, sir
It's very it's definitely a massive one of that
But we're also talking about yandex despite it being just on stage also the year that they've had for themselves whilst we looked at results
It's more about what's happened on that roster FB
The fact that we've seen them make this change in their off lane
They started off with
Noticed being their off laner and about start of the year
They had DM come and stand in and I feel like that's a really blurred moment for people who've been following throughout the year
But also a question mark for people who are only training now
Yeah, it's funny because essentially two of the most dominant teams of the year if not the most dominant teams of the year basically swapped
Offlaners, it's like they did a cultural exchange program or something
But it turned out that sometimes you can have a very high tier player in notice
For example on Yandex and not have it be the perfect fit for you
And they discovered that when DM stood in for him because he had visa issues and he just fought it in better
I would attribute that personally to DM's ability to take a step back and not be as greedy notice as a player who does form
Ten to form a bit more and that does fit more on team vision
Yeah, I think they also definitely want a player who can just play early heroes
He's down to play anyone to think DM when I think of him
I think of a player who just pick me whatever hero and I'll sit there and I'll just take it and you on the other
course can farm and I will out they can gank me and they could try anyway I'll dodge all
their ganks and I'll be low net worth and it's okay and I think for Watson especially that's
what he wants in off-laner. Yeah I think DM to me we have this concept in Liquid that we refer
to as casuals it's like some player that is willing to play any hero into any matchup. So a lot of
like pro players they want to have like the best matchup they want to last pick their hero
they want to see all the information and then pick. I feel like DM is the polar officer
He's like, I want to play Doom, and I want to play Doom into anything. I don't care.
And I think for Yandex, that's what they needed, right? And notice is like you mentioned a bit more of like a late, later, like, big player.
Well, we've seen these two teams come up against each other recently.
And in fact, they went up against each other in group stages.
So we're looking at, yes, this hero pool of DM, but more importantly, how that series went.
Because it was such a pivotal part for them at the moment in which they clashed.
They were both one and oh, so it was really early on but from that yandex ended up taking a downward trajectory
Coming into the elimination round is two and three liquid went on to be four and one
And I think the lock can be taken away and said about this matchup specifically
Yeah, this series for me was one of the most interesting ones to watch unfold because that game to very easily
With a few different decisions being made by yandex could have been a two-oh on team liquid
And I think they're very aware of that after they lost this very close game where they had a lead for a big portion of it
Then they just kind of snowballed into that game-free loss which we see happen so often
But in that game too in particular they fell for the ultra bait in Stania
Which is we're gonna go on Mickey's monkey king and we're gonna fight him and we're gonna close bluff
And then suddenly he turns with the dingus axe and the game flips on its head
I mean Mickey is I think one of the best monkey players in the world
Yeah, and when he's given these kinds of like lane setups where you see him playing up against the axe
It's a melee hero. Monkey can get to stack up the jingos. He shines in these moments
I also remember tofu had an amazing series this game on the shadow theme
But no, I think
This was also the number one confidence check for yandex, right?
This is the moment like socks that mentions it in his interview where their confidence was a little bit
Chook because they had high expectations and they weren't able to the buck to that
I think liquid was a team that gave him that like reality check of like hey
You guys are not as good as you think you are and I think this is like why this is so cool to see them
and go up against each other again.
Yeah, it's so cool, especially when you play against each other
in the past, that rivalry builds up over time
and you've played with and against these players.
And there's just so much unset in the air.
You walk past each other at once.
You see, and you kind of smile and say, you know, good luck
today, but there's-
They don't really mean it.
You don't really mean it.
You walk in the worst luck ever.
Every rune is on the other side.
All the creep score rolls low, like everything like this.
So there's so much tension, and you
can feel it when you see them in the booths.
and I'm just excited.
Okay, would you see them at lunch though, Quinn?
When you walk past them, you have your safe lane duo
of what's in a malady on one side
and you're off lane duo of ace and topo on the other.
So who are you really wishing?
Who needs more luck and who do you think
is just got that slight edge on skill
and doesn't need the luck as much?
I think Liquid's got the edge, if I'm being honest.
I think they have the experience edge
and to me that's the biggest thing.
You talk about Mickey's monkey king.
I think about Mickey and Nisha
as players that are rock solid.
These guys do not have bad games.
They own every game regardless of the pressure.
I think they thrive under the pressure and you know you see it on camera the flip side cheers junior does he stand up to the pressure as
Well as Nisha does is he as consistent? I don't know if the answer is yes
He's built up the whole camera shot
In the camera he's so huge
No, I also think it's interesting because I think liquid
They when they struggle throughout the year
I think a lot of it it has to do with like motivation issues and kind of like not able to like lock in the same way that they
they can do when they're in front of a crowd.
I think the same thing goes for Niche,
Nick, like a lot of the cores on Liquid.
When they get in front of a crowd,
suddenly they're reminded of why they love playing Dota.
They're reminded of why they've
stuck around for so long and played this game for so long.
So I think Nisha in this matchup against CJ,
it's like the opposite.
Opposite really.
The guy that loves the crowd shines in front of the crowd,
and the guy that we haven't seen that from yet.
On that note, I do think a lot of
this matchup will be dictated by these two midlaners.
because while CJ didn't have the best group stage performance,
I think he is by far the most improved player of the year
and has had tournaments where he's been differing
a lot of the best mids in the world.
We just didn't get to see that same level of confidence from him.
And when I look at the series that they played versus Liquid,
to me, the big issue was when they were picking CJ heroes
that didn't counter pick from Mid lane,
CJ's a player where I think he shines
if you give him a counter pick,
if he's not on his first pick in Voker.
He wants something to dominate the lane with
and in that game three,
where he played a mid-primal beast versus Misha's Earth Spirit, it was just crickets.
And I just don't think that's the style of Dota that you want to play to enable CJ.
At EWC, he was the best mid-slaughter, and he was using it to counter-pick.
All of his Earthshaker mid-players like BZM, the Earth Spirit mid-players, he had a hero
in his pocket, but we just haven't seen him busted out this tier.
Yeah, I think you want comfort.
You want comfort, especially in a first game like this.
There's going to be a lot of tensions.
The first game on stage is a lot of nerves.
Get that out of the way play something that you have a lot of muscle memory for you have tons of games
That is very easy and normal for you not just in a pub sense and an individual hero performance
But also in a team setting right here you've played a lot within the structure of the annex something that works well
This is some some big smiles coming out from liquid as well as we were hovering over that booth for a brief moment there
And I think on the inside of yandex it isn't so much smiles, but I do think the energy is there
I think it's just displayed in a different way
I feel like they're a team Insania that's a little bit more we want to center ourselves and focus on ourselves
It's not that copium that some people might choke it up to be but I think that's a genuine thing that sucks
I was talking about I mean they're fundamentally different teams in that regard
I think liquid is a lot about like we want to keep it relaxed
We want to have a good time
We want to just try to enjoy ourselves and I think it's reflected if you just look at the player cameras
I think like yeah next is a lot more about like, you know
It's all about the Dota and I think liquid is a lot more about like what kind of headspace
We want to come in with you see Nisha like fully lean back in his chair
You see like they're laughing and making jokes. I know what it's like in that booth. Yeah nothing is serious like William Lee is saying some
Stupid things trying to make people laugh and just get them relaxed and that's how they shine
So it's it's just really I think I found it to be really cool
even like further than that they're the way they approach though
it's also quite different in some ways and I
Think liquid is like a team that you you're gonna see this kind of vibe from in the game, too
It's not that serious when you say approach different how how so like is it a hero?
Is it the tempo that they want to play with like what exactly could you pinpoint it down to that is different?
So I think when I think of Yandex
I think of like the remains of the pundra roster that won TI they have socks
Ah who brings that and like that kind of vibe into their team, which is very much like we're gonna focus on the Dota
We're gonna focus on the numbers
We're gonna think about how to get as much value as possible out of the map whereas liquid is a lot more of like a
Byteam, I think they try to like find these specific moves you trying to find these clutch moments
They try to connect the heroes in a way that is unexpected and their opponents don't see it coming
And that's how I think they really like differentiate themselves from each other. Yeah, and on that note
I think they are different in a macro systems, but
Also kind of similar. Yeah, I when I look at team Yandex, they do remind me a lot of team liquid when they're in peak performance
If I look towards the EWC that was played most recently
I thought that I was watching old gaming gladiators or prime liquid sometimes watching and X
They had the earliest or the shortest average wind duration. They were grouping up really early
They were like five man collapsing on mid lane towers. I was like, I'm not watching game in what's going on
when they think about it Malady and what
What's and they did come from that team Quinn and maybe they brought some of the lessons that they learned on to team
Yeah, that's when it comes to that. Yeah, they're definitely players that can push that aggression when they get the when they get
The chance for it. I think Wayne's will be a really really big deal in this matchup
Especially if being a game one I think jumping off the bat to a good start is very very good
And I totally agree with the in the booth vibe. It's so funny
It's like that look we're just looking at them to stare at their monitors
It's just five dudes. No one's talking ever just staring at the monitor
Maybe take a little sip of water if you're thirsty other than that you're getting in your own zone
I'm not looking at something. I was like literally the one person to prove you wrong as well
And he's like actually look at the brown really good page a little bit of a bait there
But you're talking about what reminded you so much of a winning fiend X mirror
But we have this team bus team right now their numbers liquid and yandex the average duration
Really isn't that different even when it comes down the shortest duration an 18 and a half minute game for yandex
Or is the other side for liquid it's 28 minutes and again longest duration
So the fact that their average duration right now is within two minutes of each other
You could see that they're gonna want similar tempos
They're gonna want to have a similar win conditions to and two minutes can be quite long in data
a team that wins in 39 minutes versus a team that wins in 45.
I look at them entirely differently.
I think that's so cool because Yandex,
when you look at the players on it,
Watson in particular,
he does not seem the type to play for early aggression
when you look at his hyper carry pool.
The coolest thing about Yandex,
one they're doing well is that they don't care of who their carry is.
They will push the advantage and go high ground.
I think that's been to their detriment sometimes during this group stage.
They've had moments where they've been leading and they just take a bad fight or two.
They try to push a little bit too much and it's not within their calculations and things go wrong very quickly
I think another really cool thing about this the secretos that on our screen is if you go to notice like what's that?
They're a lot more consistent like you have Yandex said their shortest win was 18 minutes and their longest game was 68
whereas liquid is like between like
It was 27 and 60 27 and 60 it's a lot closer and liquid also played a lot fewer heroes
Which I think is a signal that like they know what they want and Yandex is spreading
It's a lot more spread they're like 42 heroes versus 31 so liquid kind of feels like they're a team that knows what they want to do
They're coming here with a game plan. They're coming in and they have something figured out already and
Yandex is a little bit more, you know, still trying to find their foot
I mean to me the series for Yandex is gonna make or break them because I think that if they can start off their main stage
Experienced with a strong game one win against liquid
it's going to change from what we've seen during group stages.
And I think that if they lose in a fashion that wasn't competitive,
we might see them smile.
That's just my take on how they've been playing.
And that's why they seem so quiet.
That's why they seem so focused and centered,
because they're coming into this as the weaker seed,
and they understand that they haven't lived up to their own expectations.
You're talking about the difference in heroes as well
when it comes to the whole team, the difference of essentially 10 heroes.
And for the side of Yandex,
it's predominantly the mid and the carry-better experiment
and I think it's a great
opportunity. Both what's an
interior junior have 11
different heroes for
themselves. Like they're not
really finding consistency. And
sometimes that's great Quinn
because it's like you're always
going to have that great town
of picture. Always going to have
that got you here. But if
you're not winning if you're
coming in as the lowest seed,
it doesn't scream. We have got
your picks. It's we don't
have confidence in where
we're going. I totally agree.
And I think in the modern
era of Dota having a smaller
pool of heroes that you
sort of everybody's got four
or five heroes. You can't
They just pick them and they form slightly different drafts amongst a similar pool of heroes.
I think it's shown to be the best way to win games because people know what they're expecting.
You know, expect what they expect from lanes, how they expect a team fight to work.
People have similar jobs.
This guy starts fights, this guy follows up and you build a lot of consistency and
practice there.
And so I think when we see those hero pools, you think the bigger one maybe is an advantage
because you've got more possibilities.
But I think the smaller one actually tends to be just a better result apart from like
it's not like a. Collapsing
your total that can play 14
heroes in 14 perfect games and
it works, but there's not many
tutorials and collapses. Yeah.
I mean, they're two time T. I
winners for a reason, of
course, we're focusing in now
on the side of liquid because
there is smallest hero pool
comes out when you look at
supports boxies that one and
say when we look at what he's
been able to do, it's just a
strong foundation for the
offline of liquid to succeed to
I think boxy generally at TI has been he's been the tough guy, right? He's always a melee guy
He plays some melee hero
He absolutely like runs the show for liquid and this time around he's taken more of like this hoodwink win ranger kind of role where he plays a
bit more
Heroes that will enable ace but still have some sort of catch still have some sort of way of like starting fights for them
Because I think that's really like what he has to do for liquid
He's the big voice and he wants heroes that enables him to have a voice and that's not essential
Yeah, who we can the ring-ringer definitely help with that and I think it's a good replacement it works with ace
But also isn't you know not stuns. Yeah, we're gonna be able to see the first
Versus team young dex game one
We do have a game number one dropped here liquid and a yandex
We're gonna be seeing the bands popping up pretty soon, but it feels quite stuck-standing and some of the learning lessons
That teams have taken away from group stage tree Lena undying invoker and Kaz being taken out
The big question for me is
Neisha's been on a tear on Earth spirit
Are you going to let it through on Yandex? Are you gonna try to take it for yourselves or are you gonna try to beat it?
Personally, I think CJ hasn't impressed me so much with playing his Earth spirit
So in the case of banning it, I would agree with it.
But I would also love to see them attempt to counter pick it on the mid lane.
Just pick a hero that punishes him, punishes a melee hero.
Go back to your roots a little bit and bring the Sardar back.
But not in this game one.
Yeah, I think it's interesting that they liquid also off the ban out in Volker.
I was looking at their statistics throughout the year, because they've had
they played up against each other quite a lot of times.
And Yandex has beaten Liquid almost every single time.
I think their track record before TI was one in five
and 5 being Yandex, 1 being Liquid, and Invoker was quite frequently picked in those series.
I think Liquid has also realized that even though they beat it in the group stage,
this hero is a problem for them.
Yeah, it's very spooky and it scales very, very well, and it's also super comfortable for Chiro.
So I think it is a good band, makes a lot of sense, and a lot of teams are prioritizing it.
So this IO hero is a hero that has been the talk of the town over the past week.
This may not be what you think it is, but just support IO.
This is most likely a core IO, which has been popularized over the past couple of months.
It is very very powerful. We saw Watson win a game with it during the group stage
So they are capable of playing it and I like the cajones to pick it super early like this
We could think this year was very scary
And if you do not win the game very quickly or build a lead against it, it could take over
There's a caveat though to a core IO working where it feels like you still need to be able to have either another core
That feels really good to relocate in a support that you can bring with it
Surely it isn't just as straightforward as
Shut it down early and you can win against an IO carry.
Or IO pull.
That's a very valid point.
I mean, when you look at IO carry
and the current support pull, he works with most of them.
Like we're seeing a lot of Clive on Dines.
We're seeing Largo sometimes be flexed to support,
but mainly play through the offline.
We're seeing Tusks, we're seeing Clockworths.
All of these heroes are, they pair excellently online
and also in the case of heroes like Clockworth,
can set up for that IO relocate.
I look at this IO come out in the first phase, and I think it's very ballsy like Quinn mentioned,
but it also makes sense in Sania versus Nature's Prophet.
You have this hero with global threat, you counter it with your own global threat.
Yeah, when I see Wisp at TI main stage, it just makes me think of TI9 OG when they did this.
And I know something they really like to run was the Wisp Tusk.
And when you have these two heroes fare together, you get the overcharge that adds damage to the,
What is it called? To the tag team?
And then you have to relocate that you mentioned
and suddenly Nature's Prophet is not tanking at all.
This guy just vanishes.
And this is another way to abuse the Wisp,
which is just you amplify the healing.
Yeah.
Yeah, this combo is terrifying.
I think, honestly, when I see these two heroes,
I think the story of the game has already been set
in terms of draft.
You cannot beat Iolargo laking.
It's impossible.
The healing is absolutely out of control.
Without something like an A or a doom,
I think it's just completely, it's not even a question.
And so to me, Liquid is in the ballpark.
We want to run them over now because I own Largo they're greedy heroes
They're farmers and you've got a window where you can abuse them where you can run them over
You can get these range turrets these scotties that beat them down and nullify the region some and so I think liquid's got
They know what their path is what they're playing this for the draft now. Yeah, the healing amp is ridiculous
But also the damage amp right like I have a spirits with the agonist plus Largo's like E
plus conjurer's catalyst which seems to drop in every game when you're playing
against core IO like wow suddenly it's got a conjurer's catalyst it feels like
you can't play into this there's permanent uptime on ridiculous damage I
mean yandex are essentially saying like hey this is our draft try to beat it
yeah and I actually like the liquid take the foscaway I think toss is one of
the main enablers that allows us to get through the early game and like we
mentioned already for yandex right now it's about how can we build a strong
enough early game that we can reach our endgame
because that's already on the table.
If we get to the endgame and we have everything online,
we're going to be stronger.
Yeah, and I think the Tuss Marana fits that very well.
It's two heroes that are really like early skirmishing.
They get up in there, they fight,
and you can set up for Nature's Prophet TP
because you want to open the towers early,
you want to speed the game up, keep making moves,
keep killing heroes, and I think those, these heroes fit very well.
Not to mention you've got some extra damage
from potential Vessel on Marana to counter the healing.
You've got a Tuss which amplifies Nature's Prophet's damage.
damage I think it's these these picks make a lot of sense and fit that sort of
theme of we need to temple these guys and shut them down. I also like that Yandex
are kind of defining the draft when you pick these kinds of heroes that are like
now you need to respond to us. I think this is something that we haven't seen
from them in the group stage and it's showing confidence in that like
they're willing to put their draft out there and be like now you come play
our game. Foxy is not playing Windranger or Hoodwing. They're not having that
offlane combination that they've done so well with throughout this year or
this TI they're forced on this tusk you know which is a boxy hero they can
absolutely pull it off but liquid is playing Yandex game and that is a
concern of mine because while a boxy is probably the best tusk in the world it
hasn't looked amazing for them this group stage like you mentioned that because
boxy and ace they seem to function if boxy is playing a hero that doesn't
stack counts like cuddle just sits on the lane hits the enemy secures him his
early game farm and then leaves when you're playing this tusk into the
the indexes lineup here, making him leave Bat lane very early.
He's gonna be going mid.
He's gonna be trying to pressure that IO and kill him
as early as possible with the Nature's Prophet Teepees.
And that's not East's recipe, success.
It's definitely not.
And with Enchantress and Hoodwink,
it's two more heroes that are difficult to kill.
And she's got the kill and Hoodwinks
have to run through the trees
and the built-in evasion.
Like, you need more tools to kill stuff
because just one support that's starting fights,
you look at Marana and Nature's Prophet,
they're follow-up heroes.
Nature's Prophet Teepees in,
Once someone already stuns you can arrow them. You need other heroes that can get in there and get the ball rolling
You don't want too much more follow-up because there's a lot of stuff that you need a lot of tools to kill
It's not heroes that just melt when you look at them
Someone that I'm surprised is still in the hero pool is sent off. He was a big talking point when it came to group stage
It felt like more often than not he was first phase picked and say you're looking it's still that someone who goes in
Someone who has a blink blink stun initiate
Hero fully capable of doing it
I think Ace doesn't really love playing the hero that way.
I see, and they're going off for the Dawnbreaker.
This is also been extremely strong for them throughout the groups.
I think they're one of the few teams that plays it really actively,
and Dawnbreaker Tusk is an amazing combo again.
If you look at their spells,
Dawnbreaker's Q essentially is three auto attacks really quickly,
and Tad team amplifies that.
And Wisp is like a pretty low armor hero,
so if you get on top of the Wisp, it can just explode.
Versus Enchantress as well.
You have the means to kill her now with this Dawn Starbreaker.
She was a hero that Yandex were just going to throw into the enemies
and say, press your only disciples on me.
We're going to survive this and our IO will kill you all.
Now Dawnbreaker's purpose in the fights is very clear.
Hood with an Enchantress are the heroes that Ace should target
and the global presence on top of Nature's Prophet's global presence
will be able to match IO's Tempo once he gets his items.
I do think there is risk in this pick though
because you've now got two global guys.
Dawn is also a follow-up hero, so there's a lot of weight on Tuss now, and I totally agree about the Tuss Dawnbreaker lane.
That is a classic counter-picture enchantress. When Enchantress is a first pick hero, you respond with those two heroes, and you try to kill her.
But if you don't get the kills, suddenly, if you look at a long fight in this game, like a fight where both teams are kiting and chilling, Yannex is super happy,
because they have all these heals, all this slow damage over time, and Liquid needs to burst you.
If they're not bursting you with a Tuss jump into a Dawnbreaker follow-up, then what are they doing in the fights?
I absolutely love this puck ban as well because I was thinking here on 18
This is on our road to winning TI 13. This was our go-to thing
So the pick where they just picked on breaker the very very strong thing about it is that you get to pick your hero into banning
Two heroes immediately afterwards and buck was our go-to you pick the buck there and then you ban two counters
And it feels like this here was just unkillable
And if you look at the index heroes
They essentially have one stun and it's not a stun that you can really land on fuck because of the face
So I love that ban. I think the annex are they're hitting
I have a question for you. And how
How unlikely is it that there is the potential to flex the nature's profit to mid and just give Nicky a high burst damage hero
It's been done before Nisha used to play it quite a bit
I think they're even during that Tiron that we had he did play it mid every once in a while
So it is a possibility
But is it good enough in this game do we potentially see it as we know the reason of a nature's profit moving towards mid and the benefit it gives
I could see it for something like a tiny
Potentially which is not super high damage
But it gives you a starter and then you let your nature's profit your dog breaker be the true carries
You get a hero that can go in there pays pairs wall with Marana and Lane
Yeah, I think it makes a lot of sense and it's it's a cool adaptation to a nature's profit
I haven't seen it made this tournament at all
My one worry is that it's blind and it's a hero that can be counterpicked and if you have heroes running at you may like enchantress and hoodwink like do
If you die a couple of times well, this prophet wants to TP elsewhere
He wants to fight on other lanes use his spells to open up towers and attack other places
So if people come to you the hero can have some big problems with that
Yeah
So I think make them up played nature's prophet mid with a carry amber at some point
Okay, it was really cool because that functions similarly to this nature's prophet
plus Tiny, where they're gonna have that same dynamic.
But this nature's prophet had it just been run as Kerry
and was forced to follow the IO around,
it would have felt very underwhelming to me
because eventually, he's just gonna follow with a cliff.
Whereas from the mid lane, his role becomes different.
Suddenly he's more about opening towers,
pressuring and not trying to maximize his GPM.
Yeah, I think just conceptually,
this game on Yandex, they said very early on,
we're gonna be so tanky that you cannot kill us.
And if you don't win the fight in the first second,
we're going to win it over time and liquid is responded to that by picking heroes that provide a lot of damage really really quickly
You have tiny that deals a lot of damage of dawnbreaker falling in your tusk
You have an arrow and then a mages profitals on top of it
So liquid is essentially trying to break that by exploding a hero at the start of the fight
And then abusing the fact that they have a numerical advantage to keep snowballing these fights forward
So for that reason, I think the tiny conceptually makes so much sense
There's no other hero in Dota that one shots you the same way tiny. Yeah
It's a very logical and purposeful draft. I think it's actually super cool
The index proposes a problem like this and liquid says okay
Here's our solution to the problem and then you you put it into the game and you test it and say alright
Is your solution good enough for this problem? Have you fixed solve the proof? Yep?
I do see one thing that might become an issue and I'm not sure of win-ring it necessarily
Like solves that or if it puts more of a hindrance to it is nature's profit wants to be around the
the map a lot farming. Dawnbreaker as well. They kind of want to be by themselves. Is it
almost either too greedy or is there an avenue in which we could see them getting picked
off without having that backup from liquid in moments?
And I think it depends on how the lanes go, honestly, and how the pace is set, but I
just need to comment on this DJ IO. This is so funny. They dodge that, okay, carry
to carry IO, natures, profit, matchup. I'm just going to play a different role
and see just like, no, I'm on your lane. I'm playing IO versus you and I'm going
to be your problem. He's just his twelfth hero now at the International. I think another
one who is hero-ful. Yeah, this is this is super interesting. I think it's only in the
Isle should be pretty happy. And if you're not pressuring Isle early, then Sero farms
really fast and he gets his level super early and he relocates elsewhere. And he can
also have Enchcom to mid. So I think it's a cool pick. My biggest question is can
Cheer Junior actually play it? Because this is a specialist hero, not a hero that
any Schmuck can play. I absolutely agree. I think that is the biggest question mark.
from theory standpoint this idea is really cool Windranger doesn't die as
populated to Tuscant of Dawnbreaker she has the ability to windrun which dodges
the attacks you don't take the bonus damage and they've solved kind of like
the laning issue but now it's become like a skill check and share a play with
because I think if he can they're in a good position to win this game. What makes it so
different when playing in Iron Mids compared to playing in Carrick? You get a
lot more levels but you also don't have a hero naturally with you that
you're paired with and tethered to all the time and so I think there's that extra level
of IO expertise needed because you need to know when do I go to sidelines, when do I
farm and when do I fight compared to when carry you kind of just autopilot fight and
press relocate was made is a lot more decisions.
All right, well it's a lot of fun to the draft that we've been given right now a plot
twist right towards the end but we're going to see just how confident liquids
coach is in that draft as he's standing by with Sonali.
I think he's a very confident because Blitz, I was getting ready for the interview, they
didn't even finish picking Windranger and you already walked out of the booth.
What's up?
Usually during online games, I do that, and then I kind of forgot that I'm a TDI, so I
don't know.
I was like, not going to change anything I've done, I'm 23 picked and, you know, does
anything, do I tell my team anything different now that they pick Windranger?
Like, ah, they got us guys.
There's no world where you'd have been like, oh wait, actually let's not do the
nature's profit tiny swap let's keep nature's profit as carry or you were set no matter what
now I think at this tournament something that I've really learned is you got to have faith
in your ideas we got to do you you can't think too much about what the enemy team can do
for else I think it just gets in your head and then in terms of having faith in your ideas
you have been here before two years ago you were getting ready to go into your playoff bracket
and then win the whole thing last year polar opposite not making out a group stage
what's the vibe right now with you and the team oh I mean we were talking about how
It's been two years two years since any of us have been able to play on this stage
And you know, I got pretty emotional because tofu was like hey guys
I'm really proud of like how we got here and stuff like that and it means the world to me and
You know when you win tia you just think to yourself like life's gonna just keep cruising and stuff and it was a really big reminder to me
That this game is it's not like a right
It is a privilege and I hope that everybody remembers that
And treats the game with a lot of respect because you know for sure
I thought that we were just going to cruise and keep being the best team ever and you know life comes at you really hard
And you know, I don't really have any many years left in this and I just want to like take it in and appreciate it
Let's still appreciate the moment together blitz. Good luck on game number one as we send it to our casters
Thank you very much Neil and blitz some great words there from blitz coming into this series
It should be a fantastic one and you can tell liquid obviously with their run for the group stage looks like they're really
locking in taking a serious data fantastic run.
Yandex is a little bit shaky.
Sure potential from Yandex as we've seen for the season is pretty scary.
So if they start to step it up here in the main event, they're going to give
Liquid a run for their money for sure.
And half pointing out that this is a bit of one of the only rematch that we do
have, I think from any of the teams, right?
This is the only time that we are having in this tournament so far, a
team playing against each other for the second time.
So the last time we did see Liquid come out ahead.
Curious to see how this one's going to go.
Because a lot of teams, a lot of players have been talking about this
IO Largo, disgusting kind of combo, where you have just infinite sustain inside of the draft.
Liquid's approach, just like the panel was talking about, is overwhelming burst.
It's a press. It's, I mean, yeah, both, you know, when you look at the side lanes from Liquid,
it's honestly the dream sort of set-ups for a mid-nation profit.
Yeah, I love the mid-nation profit. I want to see more of it.
It is a risk you want to do because if you start moving around them up too early
and you can lose your lane pretty hard, Misha, I'm sure, you know, he's not going to do that.
that is to be very sensible with his early game movements, but the potential
early movements are huge because both lanes, you've got these dual lane setups
that are absolute killers, right? Already the aggression coming out from
Boxing and Ace, looking to secure that first bit of fire, but won't quite get it.
Malady will live. Able to sneak away, but you can taste it. Liquid, they're
going to be hungry for the kills. On the side of Yandex though, they have
got some pretty nice slippery laners, right? They've got their heroes
Ready to sort of sustain through that. You look at this bottom lane, giving them a few levels and both these two, the Hopewink, the Windranger, they're going to be slipping about.
It's not going to be that easy for this kind of dawnbreaker tussling to set up the action. Yandex, they've responded well.
Yeah, responded well. Liquid doesn't have a lot of control though. On top of just having the burst damage, that's something I am looking at their draft with.
It's much easier for them to just approach these fights, approach just initiating as well too.
2. While you look for Yandex, it's a very different approach in general for everything.
Like they were talking on panel, right? Long teamfights. Having to bait a hero at first,
throw the Largo and maybe the Enchanters to force some spells. Liquid is just going to be go,
go, go. So excited to see how this one's going to go down. Excited to see how the lane's going
to go. And if this Largo, if this IO is going to get together and become that
unkillable duo with all the heals. Absolutely. The group up from Yandex. It's going to be
be a question as you say who kind of gets that point first.
Yandex going to be able to build to this stage where you can't kill them or
Liquid going to be able to build to the stage where their overwhelming burst and
aggression and initiation is too much for Yandex to group up.
Chira?
Can he get hit by a snowball?
Is he going to quite reach him? Not.
Freeway comes in, he's got the tether of the ready to get away from Boxy.
This is, I mean I'm very curious about this lane as well too. Just like
I think the question really is is how well is he gonna play it and especially how well is he gonna play it. It's just such an address of line-up
It can potentially burst you if you're not careful right now lanes looking very good 17-0 sure some denies on Nisha
But it's like what I was saying right if this IO gets away with a good start it can be pretty problematic
problematic because you get that reload line very early you devastate the
sidemates but we don't talk about that too right global potential of both sides
quite high bottom boxy always gonna come in with a snowball I don't think he's
getting out of this one though as soon as he's gonna be out of the snowball
Watson's gonna look to try and secure the first bird and do so easily safe time
in the mid he should try to go for two duty here with the two giants could he
get him he's into the tree to a junior and got him we'll do it
He needs to do TP over just in case he needs to get a right click in himself
That will TP back to base and to make sure he can get the refuel so
Good deal going down already in that mid matchup big deal in the mid lane to get this type of kill
Now that probably could mean he did have to use the TP back
So they're taking longer to come all the way to lane, but he might still be able to get that level 6 very early
As we said high burst potential that wrath of nature with the double stone on the side lanes could be very strong
Very aggressive in this game
The top lane, another move.
Vertex, you come in.
Licks to the side here, but the arrow is lined up.
Top, make sure that Saks is not getting away.
Overall for Liquid, it's much easier to just make these moves, right?
As we're saying, for Yandex, it's more of this group up.
Eventually just whittling heroes down to the side lanes
because they do have this very strong save flame
with the windranger and the hoodwink.
Boxy, he's just going to be moving now.
They've accepted the fact.
Yeah, we picked the dawn and the toss
to be able to try to pressure that lane,
But the fact that they take the win range, you just can't really.
You're not killing them.
It's too hard, unless you literally just kind of runs up and dies on purpose.
Even then, right, they have a stun to be able to protect.
So now, Malady, his choice is where do you want to go?
Now this hoodwink has opportunity to also match the movements
and you can leave the win ranger alone.
So let's see how much he wants to do.
He's looking for Foxy.
He knows that Foxy's just looking to go through these gates
and pressure the lanes.
So good identification of that there for Malady.
Yeah, I mean, this is going to be good enough, really, right?
Just sort of keeping tabs on the top smooth.
Yep.
not allowing Boxy to get away with those sort of plays top.
Even mid though, they do have to be out wary as we saw their boxing.
Well, not right now, but can't go for those TP plays, can't look for the kills out to Chira.
But now, let's see those sixes. Chira is about to hit it.
Nisha is about to hit it as well. Similar timing.
I mean, that's the thing.
We're seeing fantastic efficiency from both of these mids, both backing up,
making use of very early on of the neutral camps here.
Chira with the Spirits and of course Nisha with the Trients.
So these two are gonna get fantastic farm out of the solo situation
She could be very interesting to see where both of their games go. Obviously both heroes with huge global potential and
Many ways to read the map and make moves
Which is gonna be an absolute treat to see from these two players because when you have these sort of mid heroes that have those sort of
opportunities
I just say it's very easy to sort of make a bad move that kind of snowballs in the wrong direction
For sure
They've got to be on top of their game here
Nisha and Chira Junior.
Runes is going to be the choice because I.O. does want to play with the runes, right?
So Nisha, he's going to double check with Trients.
So probably going to prevent the fill-up from going out there for Chira Junior.
Could restrict some of his movements here.
Let's see what Soxa wants to do because usually we do see as well the Enchantresses
try to sandwich onto the mid lane.
So maybe something they want to consider, but not the easiest as we said.
For Yandex, their line-up just isn't really about danking over them, right?
No, it's just different what we're going to see. Liquid, probably the one's going to be
the auto aggression in the majority of this early game.
Another one.
Now, we're coming across now,
about tofu to take Saksa down.
Another thing, I actually wanted to check with the build.
I'm assuming Tofu's going to get a vessel anyway in this game.
Someone's going to buy one, right?
You definitely want one versus off the ceiling.
Sure, Margot can lick it off, but...
Arrow, connection, DM.
Does that have enough to take him out with the tree coming in?
I'm going to...
Close!
Not quite there.
I'm going to catch him.
DM will be able to survive.
We're going to see Malady see if he maybe gets lucky
the seven minutes with Watson we'll see what sort of response Lick would come in
with. Well it's contesting.
Boxing at Ace, Archon, Boxing's a bit low level.
It's low on the levels.
If the Shackle is in the Power Shot this is gonna hurt but there's the Relicates coming in as well, they want to contest this.
They got a second.
And indeed they have to back away from this one so Watson's gonna be allowed to
take away Ace, kind of wisdom. DM's gonna secure his own.
There could be a trouble here, Power Shot is.
A lot of damage as well though, they have to kill on top of it. I mean the dream sort of moved
They're from Tura Junior not only helping out secure the wisdom to make sure that the andex get both of them
But also getting involved in a chance to get off the enemy off-laner. They should not feeling like he's in a position
I don't think he had the TP teleport available at least you had the TP scroll but feeling like it joined after that play he made
Against act so I think it was still a cool down. Yeah level one pretty long cooldown on our teleportation
65 seconds heads up move very nice play with them having this advantage in the bottom lane being able to play versus
Donbreaker that's the reason they can go for this ace struggling to enter into this game in comparison to the opposing off-laner
See how he can catch back up as we said lots of global potential
But that doesn't mean that it's gonna stall out to six a little bit longer for that Donbreaker since he does get brought down
A DM he can just farm super efficiently now at this point
His lane was good on the Largo now
He just goes to the the sidecamps that we'd love to watch these Largos farm of course
And he can show up to most of these fights himself to a
a very responsive line up the yandex can go for to counter what liquid wants to go
for that's the thing it's so many heels and honestly so much pretty good aggression
and offensive tension for a lates down the line right there's a lot of spell
out between the hunters boomerang later on from the hook wing you got this I
over the overcharge you got that the crook I go with the full belly blitz and
the crook if they put this all together it's gonna hurt I know they
can live for it all and they could dish it back out you there's a lot of
really cool combos that we get to show there's some way later on as well that
pretty ridiculous to IO plus the win ranger focus fire level 25 etc. We'll
wait down the lines to be able to talk about it.
Honestly if the game duration is anything to go by so far here at this
international we might get that. Yeah it's a really really cool combo plays and
something to talk about too is they do have these like pseudo saves on Yandex but
liquid they have the harder save in particular in this game right they
have to they have to ulti from the dawn they have to tusk snowball so we'll
see in particular in the team fights how much that's gonna actually matter. Yeah
it's not gonna be the easiest early on for Watson's to sort of just
Focus by someone and hope for the kill. There's gonna be ways for the liquid to fight back in and keep one another alive
Well, he gets both lineups very much kidded out to bring us some pretty exciting action
I think we're absolutely true. I think it's very likely we do get to that 50, you know, very little ages
Both teams, I don't they don't well at least especially on the yandex aside
They don't mind playing a bit greedy right now
You've got this is he wants to be kind of match sufficiency, you know getting the creeps hitting the jungle push the lane out holding the tower
DM, you know, he's happy to kind of get his big items online as the slugger and beef up and you know,
Watson, he's more than happy to hit the creeper. Over on Liquid's side, they do obviously have like the safe lane Tiny,
but you know, we do see this Tiny, they kind of want to get kind of these two three items online before they do anything, right?
This aircruiser into a Shadowblade or into a blink, but we'll see which way Mika's going to be going this game.
I mean, which way do you think he is going to be going? Considering that he obviously has this mid-nature's profit, the Nisha's playing,
I'd like the mouse room. He's gonna be farming. Yeah, you got to have someone go in right and it's probably got to be the tiny
When you've got this mid MP. Otherwise, you're fully reliant on the toss
I think that's exactly what make it has to do
Maybe take slight back foot and let me should put a true carry from the mid lane because they do scale
Absolutely
Just say well Yandex is gonna try and scale we're gonna outscale them and you can you trust in the tiny nature's profit
Court to sort of outdo that off the IO win ranger. I just think that's a risk
It could be a risk. It's just we don't know. I haven't seen the full tests in some of these games of how
busted the Iolargo really can be when it's put together. Because the healing gets to be absolutely ridiculous, but liquid, if you have the first, right, you get the favor, etc.
Right, we'll have to say as it gets down later down these lines. Another thing too for Yandex, pushing buildings might be a little bit harder in particular. Liquid, you can see how they get set up for seeds, right?
Nature's profit in the siege. Tiny can also siege a little bit quicker. So map control will definitely be pretty important in these next few moments. So, Soxa, I like what they're doing down here a lot.
Enchantress probably their best way of being able to push these towers early on with these
grids, starting to get the ball rolling on the bottoms.
Trying to open up the map, perhaps have some access into Ace's sidecams.
There's a pill.
From everything we sort of know and what we've seen so far, Yandex's approach this
game seems a bit more self-explanatory, right?
Sure.
I would say Liquid's is a little bit riskier.
They've got to do some flashy stuff, whereas Yandex, a lot of stuff is going
very naturally gel together. They're gonna exist well but they're gonna lack
ways to start fights perhaps. But I think they don't mind that. They're gonna want to start a fight when you bring it to us and we're gonna be able to just hold our side of the map for the next 40-50 minutes until you have to bring it to us and we're gonna be ready.
Let's see who's idea works out better this time around in particular, right? Because Nisha, he's a farmer, he's got the Maelstrom build, he's gonna go straight up as we said playing the one position from the mid lane.
Yep, so I feel like when pretty much when the blink daggers come out
They're gonna accelerate a lot more
I don't think they're just gonna sit back yet
Yandex get this like multiple timings because we've seen at least today especially to what Laurel can do if he's able to just do
His timings as well and with this I as I said, it's just a massive
Way things come together for Yandex is like I mean liquid
They're gonna have to be feeling a little bit of a pressure to do something and it's gonna be around the case blink
It's about 750 gold into it, so that's the key timing we're looking for to see if Liquid really try and get the ball rolling.
Yeah, let's see if they can open up the map and isn't going to work for us at the time because the blink's going to come, but she was going to have the axe.
So he's already going to be that reckoning force that they have to somehow deal with all the extra heals.
And as we said, the lick will be there, so even when the vessel comes out, if they do go for it, I'm not sure if they actually will this game.
He'll have an answer.
He'll have an answer, because I see it's now to Distiller being queued up for Tofu, so maybe he just goes, you know what?
I'm never gonna be able to get this fellow off.
Alright, get the Vespa, they're gonna have a play, though.
Quiet start here, though. Four to three.
No teams wanting to over move with their global, because there's reactions from the opposing global.
As I said, I think we're gonna sort of see this sort of slow pace for quite some time this game.
And you think so too, until the play comes.
And Liquid, definitely gonna go, go, go, cause there's easier ways to start fights, but...
See how Yandex wants to respond with all this healing.
Because Watson, on track to hit, very good timing on the Mjolnir.
Churus too. Churus timing is going to be really fast here with the Aghanims.
You give these two space an IO with an axe and a Wim range with a Mjolnir rush.
They're going to clean up the farm a little bit quicker than sort of the tiny with an echo blink.
Yeah, mid-cave, he's going to want to go.
He's going to want to go and he has got great teammates and heroes around him to do so.
So much follow-up. That's what they did to switch up, where Nisha is now playing the carry from the mid lane.
They have so many ways to jump in the starting, that they have to follow up as well too.
They've kind of lined it up nicely. Just going to be, can they execute it since there's,
I think there's a bit easier to execute in terms of bursting, but Yandex, if they don't get bursted...
If they don't get bursted, it's, yeah, the play is over.
Yeah.
Because they're, yeah, since you said, now, pulling on the heals, outside of the heals,
they don't have any of a sort of direction.
Two shots at us!
Yeah, sure, they killed what they didn't do.
Oh, yeah, they guess the way with the scurry. They will get the kill, but it's gotta hurt.
14 minutes in, you're yet to secure a Shrine of Wisdom for yourself, Liquid.
But they're not even that far behind on the experience, to be honest with you.
They're maximizing really well with the way that they're just farming.
Uh-huh.
The place that Nisha has just hit the creeps, being able to get involved with that global potential.
So, even though they lost a double Wisdoms, they're actually, I mean, pretty much dead even in terms of experience.
So that's pretty interesting pretty cool considering a full wisdom already going the way all the undeads
Please don't tell me this is gonna be one of those games though
We're just it's four to four and fourteen minutes already. I think both of us
We're looking at me. Okay, we're looking at me. Okay to save the show
Is he gonna be able to look to make action happen?
Or is it gonna be one of those blinks that kind of just speeds up the farming because you get from camp to lane to
Camp a little bit quicker. We'll see how aggressive Mickey wants to get but honestly, I think it might
He might just be happy hit the creature. He might. He'll net one move if it doesn't work. Then it's gonna be back to the creeps.
So let's see what goes down here. Rotation toward mid. Yandex is actually the one accelerating here.
Trying to shut down Liquid, but they can't get that timing.
That's a nice little move. And an unexpected one. I don't think if you're Liquid you're expecting more since you just sort of turn up here around the mid and put this pressure on.
I like it. You know, this is showing Yandex doing something that, yeah, Liquid. I don't think they're expecting this sort of heavy pressure just to appear around mid-tier ones hour.
And so far, Chirrup is looking good on the Isle. He's not doing anything crazy or flashy, but his farm is actually at the bottom of his shot.
He's gonna be on the top of his brow.
First, he's gonna jump in before he's on the field, but the top of the stop is coming from Chirrishidu.
Chirrishidu will get taken down in return, so he'll lose a bit for a mid.
But Yandex the heals.
They can move up a little more, they can grab on away. Double kill for Malady.
They look to take a point of the dial, try and leap away.
We'll get away with that finally up to the high ground snowball into our back away
And you sure that liquid do not go empty handed cleans up a double so make sure that the trade ends up relatively even oh
My what a response there in Mickey getting the perfect connection out again
He was if he wasn't there that would have been bad news for liquid by Mickey
He knew he needed to be a part of that one. You know the dive in the tier 2 he can't miss out on that and he does
And Parksy actually
Reached we're coming back in time that fight lasted so long he came back in time
He was as a blink dagger
He actually got some gold because of that so if anything actually like liquid comes out ahead in that one because they get this extra
Gold for the support off the blame yeah dies as well to a case get some rich or he died
It's another one here for Mickey and Asia another catching sex around the lane up top. All right liquid
Finally enough work that wants to start getting the action though.
You have Jandex going, hey, you know what, let's try a look around the tier one and see what we can turn this into heading up into the triangle area.
Liquid's all right, you wanna play? We're ready to play. Let's go.
They just have, I mean, in general, right, looking at the stuns. We have to talk about, because you did mention it earlier, Liquid has a stun.
Jandex just doesn't. They really don't, so they just have to collapse on these targets and burst with a quick quicker.
Liquid will have that easier access to go through these kills in most situations if they do have those numbers, but...
Very even still 2k lead at the moment here for liquid, but a big punch back
They slowed down DM and ace that doesn't have the echo finished up is level 12
So level 2 solo guardian is also online for the next play that healing could make the difference to us
and a decent amount of
Patience is gonna build the idea go for the shivers guy
I'm not a lot of the burst damage is this busy damage
So once he has the extra arm on top of things cheer junior
I mean we ever saw there it
They did sort of take everything they threw in to take him down.
Like it took time to take the IO out.
So Chira Junior is able to get this next time on Line of Good Time.
He's going to be a tough one to defeat.
Liquid, they're prepared for this.
Another movement is actually going to be coming in for Yandex.
I quite like if Chira does go...
I kind of want him to go BKB first.
It's too much magical burst damage that could just explode it.
And a lot of the lineup I feel for Yandex is revolving how Chira does.
If Chira gets burst at the start of these fights,
a lot of the healing the mind of they want to play with the day heroes
kind of falls apart.
Melody, give me a quick connection here, they're coming with a focus fire trying to sell the gun and help thanks for he's gone.
Big damage!
A charm and a huge amount of blasts again, Mikkei!
He's everywhere there needs to be!
Chirra!
They're going to try for Chirra!
That is big turn Mikkei making sure that he's not missing out on any of these fights.
The again, Yandex are kind of bringing it.
They're forcing more than I expected.
I don't think we thought they would do this.
I thought they would show back.
Yeah, absolutely.
They're kind of happy to show back, but no.
They're maybe feeling some pressure that's not necessarily there.
They're trying to make these plays.
They're not going too great each time.
They're countering them.
I feel like I kind of cursed Chira there because something about a lot of the IO players,
we have to talk about him always, right?
It's the timing of the 15th talent.
They went right before he hit level 15.
So I've seen most of these teams, that IO just plays around that timing because
you do so much overwhelming damage.
twice now he shows up dies yeah now we're seeing separation between them and
Mick I have to say what a combo is that he's got he is the happiest tiny in the
world right now each of these moves just turning up and cleaning up there's the
dream for the carry tiny he's big now a shadow blade also finished up this is
dangerous the burst is a bit too high it feels like for Yandex to deal with they
have to be more careful how they approach these next few fights yeah
it's I will see what they do but as I said two sort of surprising moves
If they're trying to make aggressive plays where it just feels like they're draft,
they kind of lean towards a more defensive style,
but Yandex taking a risky move, it's not paying off.
I wanted to chair a finished BKB for the next move.
I think he just potentially can't just get burst again and again
if he doesn't get that before the moves.
He's going the standard build though, as he said.
It's the BKB, it's the Shivas.
It makes your spirits so much bigger,
makes you go for better, easier team fights in particular.
But yeah, it's going to be tough.
I'm seeing some difficulties in protecting him,
They don't have as we mentioned for liquid. They don't have that hard save
Yeah, you've got lots of healing, but you're not a tusks roll, right?
You don't have to leave if he gets caught from the magical from all the stuns that comes in from liquid
See if yandex calm things down a little bit
If we see them run a liquid again because
It's not working out at least yeah at least get the BKB for Chura
But a lot of his downtime now at this point. We're seeing liquid pulling ahead in Isha
Oh, yeah, and she's also getting his BKB at a pretty fast timing. They're three-quarters scale and very hard
Absolutely, yeah, but I excellent bit of a bump up that they've received across the board
Mckann prime position
He's done this quite a bit of times on his tiny. He's now the hunter as well to with the shadow blade
Like what do we actually need to go over to their side of the map?
They're probably gonna come up again soon. Yeah
So, let's go to chill out and wait for Yandex to make a move into us again and we'll just counter it once more
I feel like what's gonna be saying soon 20 minutes or now 20 minutes tormentors available
So let's see if any team wants to actually set up for that in particular and X get the wisdom look what's not even going for
There's just they should be able to get
Ralph liquid make a as he said on the hunt overall for Yandex much scarier for them to show in these lanes and
Watson does go greedy. He does go the hurricane pike build rather than putting the BKB early on
Maybe because he feels there's gonna be so much attention
I'm not like I think I wanted to see and they started you there
Okay, I feel like at the end I thought shira go for green would have been too much
I don't think all three of them can go for green because the map it does feel like it's gonna start shrinking pretty quickly now
It's liquid having this opening
Validine
He's being sleepy
Not the easiest
He's going to go check. Let's see if he gets the time.
Oh, it's close! He wants to get the skill!
He'll get a kill!
He'll get a kill! Will he get out?
He's one of the trees, he's going to get away with it.
So, look at the kill, but hey, he'll take that.
He gets a free pick off to take down Tophu.
He's really high level on this hood, like, oh yeah.
You have to point that out. He's level 13.
That's your play in the 4 position, it feels like, from that 5 roll this time around, compared to Zatsu.
And he is, of course, he is trying to build that save for his teammate.
Krookras getting the glimmer cage. He wants to make sure that Jira Jr. stands a very good chance of surviving through the burst
and getting a chance to get the BKB off even if he does get caught in the chain-start.
This is indicative of how they want to play the lineup, right? They want long team fights.
Stay alive.
Liquid, they want to burst the target, kill them almost immediately. Yandex, they want a long fight with these spirits to start adding up,
where the Kroak starts adding up.
Speaking of the Kroak, his DM gotten the 15 talent, not yet. Another really strong one when you do get it versus heroes like Tiny.
This croak of genius max HP it really starts to add up with something like
Let's see if that comes into play soon liquid accelerator
In the niche up able to find pretty much any of these heroes 100 to zero protection alone
I this is a real tough game for socks
So that's it but panel's talking about also right the dawn breaker the toss these are great answers in general
And this is not an easy game for us. I said look there to catch up so foods
He tries to leap away so what's enough take them down
But it is spot on potentially looking for a jump.
He would consider this if anyone steps too far forward.
Gonna try to shoot, you need to put so bad a command as well.
And he could be come down, licked to the side here.
Try to stay for Nisha, even if he likes it.
So he's gonna do it.
Too much.
Watch him.
Put him to the ground for now.
He's just down to his ground with the BKB.
Watch him.
He'll be able to cut his way free.
And win runs of safety.
Now, look back onto Nisha.
He's down into the river.
Have to push right into the sharp shot onto Ace.
Follow him up.
A power shot.
Slowing him down.
and he further gap-close to get right to the licky cat,
we'll lick it back into an impetus or two, and that shall do it.
The Undex will be able to hold their own around their tier one and make sure that their mid IO does not die for nothing.
They were super prepared for that move.
They had all three cores sitting behind, well, all three cores sitting in the mid lane looking for that move.
Liquid still does get the kill though. They still push right through it, but we'll end up sacrificing Ace.
But that usually is the case for Ace.
He tends to be, especially in this type of draft, I feel like he has to be at the sacrificial land,
Since he's just playing the dawn breaker 0-4 though. He is struggling a bit in this game by Nisha
He's soaking all that space 6-1 and 4 now on this nature's profit
She's what's he ended up going for is yet she oh, he's rushing the MKB
Yeah, since he's playing versus the wind ranger totally makes sense. He's gonna have it at a very early time
I love this for your foot full out on the damage
key is gonna hit hard and
Yes, you need to have the overwhelming damage to get through this amount sustained
in terms of Watson's next pick up.
Obviously looking for the BKB,
you have to have a thousand gold off it.
What about DM?
I was thinking, I mean,
I think they have to triple BKB on the course.
Sometimes it feels a bit bad in these games to do it.
But you said you want to be able to be a Sparmiter,
but in this game you have to resolve them all the time.
And if you catch it against Topin now,
that's a three to go.
Yeah.
And Watson's been able to find the chance
to finish him quite a few times.
And that will very much help towards that BKB fund,
He's pretty much got complete.
Getting the point now where the group, especially from the two of them, the island of Largo, we are drawing how strong it is.
And as we know, it is very strong.
You are gonna see situations where these two heroes, their HP might not dip below so the 90% if the spikes go smooth.
I was waiting to mention this too, because looking at Liquid's lineup, there isn't really a Crelo's Crozier Viper.
Cuz that is the counter right now to the healing as we've seen in a lot of these drafts.
Who's gonna buy Crellus?
Can you fit it in on a Dorn Builder?
That sounds bad!
Yeah, it's...
I mean, he might do it, but I don't know.
I've usually used to like the Underlords, the Dooms, Set Tars, you know.
Any of these traditional Offlaners can usually go for it, but
Dawnbreaker isn't really usually that type of traditional Offlaner where you can use it.
No, it's sort of hard to kind of fit other items into Builders' Dorn.
There's so much core stuff that you...
Kind of want to have every gang.
So they're gonna...
The thing is that they're just gonna have to deal with the healing then,
Or just sort of pop the target so let's see if liquid can't do it smoked up looking for another move potentially around the roast
All right
Dandex is getting to start to catch up at least in terms of the cold they're chilling
They are the creeps and throughout it all what's in doing is best to keep up obviously Nisha getting a significantly even holding it
It's too much!
You can find Malady as well.
Boxie will fall and return.
The damage already done by Liquid may be even potential for more than the heavy pocket this
way around the shots.
Oh man, Liquid, they're opening things up so much.
The chain stun combos, he doesn't even get his BKB off.
Everything just connects on it.
I guess you had no moment to be out of breath since you have that entire burn.
That's the problem.
They just have so many different stun types going on.
This is our multiple time-
Wait, four times they're catching Chira at the front.
He needs to survive longer.
In order for their life to function, he needs to be alive.
The majority of them, you cannot die first.
Liquid.
Really accelerate you, sir.
It's up to them now.
Twenty-one.
Engine, yeah, just massive.
Then you're 21k network.
As well, you're 27 minutes in.
Having a phenomenal time here as the mid-nagas.
Broke, it's gonna be a little jumpy.
I said, I'm not gonna have to be caught.
Take away that Aegis moment
after he's able to pick it up for himself.
Doesn't that think they'd be either?
If we can go for round two.
Son of a gun, they're gonna be trying to back up the side post.
They're trying to bail them out.
They're trying to help out.
They're trying to back up the full team of Liquid Tartar.
Misha's gonna go up to the team.
Watch out! Watch out!
They're trying to watch out to get him.
Misha's gonna kill Lullaby.
They're gonna come to the wall.
Two in two, he outnakes.
They're gonna strike back.
Punishing the...
Oh, what a play.
So heavily.
Double kill for Watson.
All three calls dead.
Because Misha really wanted that tier one post.
And he doesn't even get it.
He did not.
the tower he's just cost his team all three of the calls lives oh that was
really oh the worst I mean worst possible positioning for between and
Watson gets the focus fired he just can't meet the focus fire you still
continue after the respawn respawns just runs him down oh he's gonna regret
that Nisha Nisha that hot they just are holy five K gone nearly there were
seven K down to 2 K experiencing was looking liquids way they were
entering a big game so cleanly but one mistake there costing them nearly
everything that they've gained so far. A massive wonder there from Nisha but
Yandex in perfect position to punish it and it's around Watson. Oh yeah. He's the key
for the team this game 11-1 and 6. He's like you know what Chira you may be
dying a couple times but I'm gonna be the rock for the team so far here.
He gets the crit now, his damage is accelerating as well that was a quick
turnaround. Yeah let's... what are we doing that again? Nope Nisha. Go for
Cheer what if I was a correct or something you can understand I mean it but
Something about when you're on the next as well, then you see a tower this low is it's kind of interesting
You can't help yourself. Now you want to try and finish it off. I don't get it. It's quite brutal. Yeah, that's that's a big swing
Double 20 now for Chira now has the armor item is why I believe the shemas is about to be finished up
That was a monstrous turn around there from the index
Now feeling convict to make the aggressive move since the Aegis was taken away, Nisha is still getting closer and closer towards the Satan, but if he doesn't have VKB up in the fights as we see there also can just get killed and also get stunned.
And Watson's closing up to him on the farm. It was about 4k behind, only just over 1k difference now between the two of them.
Take the job, they're going to be out of time straight away, locked down Boxy!
The little friends, preventing him from getting any type of snowball play.
He tried to blink punch, didn't get the connection there.
Yandex, playing nicely together here as a team.
Responding accordingly to Liquid's group up at first, after finding that pick.
Yeah, that sort of swings into getting the chance to really get their group up into their position that they want to Yandex.
The sheath is done on top of the BKB, Seratunia.
getting closer to the end of this.
You mentioned giving an absolute piece.
Good on the levels as well, level 20.
That's the very main thing we're looking at, right?
The levels.
It's dead in there.
20, 21.
The thing is when you do this build, though,
it's not always, he'll probably pivot
toward an item since he isn't on the right click.
Yeah, we'll see if he does actually want to pivot
or if he just does the relocate thing when he hits 25,
but we'll have to see.
Yeah, because when they do that,
that cost will, they can leave
just some pretty clutch moves.
And now DM, after that fight,
a full agonist too.
So we can do the double songs.
So much has come together.
So much.
And for Mick A, it's a pretty big slowdown,
because that was literally liquid right now,
expected him to do save the private knee shot.
And they ended up losing so much because of it,
not even being able to save them.
All that momentum they gained, gone.
Yandex now in a very comfortable spot.
They are dadeless on Watson.
He is going to hit hard.
It's going to be a lot of pressure on Boxy
to make sure those snowball saves are always there
in reaction to the focus fire.
Because at this point, with this amount of damage
So the Guardian is not going to save you. If Watson is firing the arrows at you, you're going to die.
And now let's see if right and liquid after building up that momentum and losing it, there's so much extra healing and health on the side of it.
They're going to be able to jump on him, he's going to get the south, he's on the snow, we'll save them coming.
Why is he in a bit of time here?
He's in the snow and Guardian, he's got the cobwebs on him, what's going on?
I just can't.
Oh, I'm all out.
They're on the burst him.
No BKB.
He played a little greedy, they didn't want to put the BKB in front of the snow, we came to land, it cost him his life.
He's out for 70 seconds, Liquid!
Liquid, the numbers now, they can lift the first one more to make a jump, both of them out of me!
Malik's trying to get away, the Harpoon drags him out!
Holy moly!
That's a double!
I want just to lead, it gets caught in the sun!
He didn't get a BKB off!
Now he got greedy with you.
Yeah, he did.
No, I mean, next scenario's gonna be a...
Well, we just have to get the BKB up early, but...
Liquid's now gonna go for the first...
They might just want to see how they've easily got the damage, there's nothing that has to be scared of when Watson's gone.
Isn't that hero alive to just sort of shred through one of their big calls?
So losing Watson at the start of the fight there a bit of a nightmare for Yandex
Does anyone have a force staff on the side of Yandex?
I feel like someone's got to stop the chain stun to be able to loud these heroes to get BKB off
I like that, that's some cool thinking there. It's like, you know, I think if I BKB off it would probably support spawn
It's a support spawn
That is force, mate
Well, that's what I would say
For Liquid if so, let's chain stun someone's got to break it if that's going to be the case
And now Liquid, this gives potential to your Raps
They push super fast here. There is a clip available
See how careful they play at Liquid
They're not like three. They put 30 seconds without DM on Yandex.
They popped and whipped themselves. They're forcing this.
They got the job ready as well.
Jump. Take it.
Most of the guys go on the sacks up.
Look for the burst. Starbreak. The follow-up's looking down.
Kirigumi's coming for the heals.
It's a long, deep and sexual life.
Take it.
And it's enough. They can't kill Sector. He'll survive.
Liquid's gonna bail out.
He's gonna be up in the middle of the mix.
He's dead.
Quick, cut it in.
What's he gonna have to take it down with a focus fire?
I think pretty much with that pop, he rolled on the nameless.
All right, we've got a spicy one here. Both teams make some of my crazy moves that I'll always go in the best for one another.
Back to the fourth window. I don't know what's going on here.
The Enchantress, Isoxa just tanks everything with Chura there.
He's able to sit back and just get the heals.
All right, crazy this game is.
Oh my goodness. It looks like they're potentially going to be able to get that.
Rax with the push, but nope.
Watson gets the perfect timing as he's sent the last hit on the issue.
I think he needed that last one, sometimes I don't find when you make damage on the right clicks when it approaches with the Daedalus, got the crit needed.
I think the Graves is truly telling the Terran's back and forth we go now, yeah, next goal in the other way.
Alright.
I think I'm going to try to do as much damage as I can.
It is a long time without Nisha, and I don't think they might be able to force Mikke's Vibe.
And Liquid also, they use the aggressive glyph in the push so they don't have to defend themselves.
Sometimes the aggressive glyph can be a bit too big of a brain move to make.
Wow.
In a span of two minutes, it's Liquid who ends up getting Raxx.
I mean, I think you go about one minute and you say who's going to lose a set of Raxx.
You don't think it's going to be Liquid, but it is. They lose the mid-Raxx.
One mid-same game so far here.
And Chira now, we're asking in the bottom fight if Liquid was going to have to damage the burst targets.
They did. Now Chira's going to have a heart.
Are they going to have to damage this time through with the burst of targets?
If they can change stun as we saw, very likely, but maybe with the heart it might be too much.
That's the thing, if they can't burst an enchanterist with just the amalgam behind them.
You know, what's the chance of them bursting anyone else when you use the sustain comes in?
Not easy. The game continues to be difficult for Liquid, despite hitting that early stride into the mid game.
They slipped away from the multiple times. One on trying to take up the mid-tier one tower.
You know what I mean, I remind you, still stands.
It dies south-stand.
And then one on that failed attempt to try and go to the high ground, that cost them pretty dearly.
We've got some moves, Malady.
Looks like he's probably going to get cut there.
He can use the solar card, you know?
That's good.
Let's see how well Malady's dead.
I think that's what we undead say.
OK, whatever.
We don't care.
Go get a Tormentor, Liquid.
We'll also be able to get that picked up during it.
Here it is.
Definitely clear anything from the cells off the map.
We'll get what we got.
35 minutes of wisdoms.
Then we'll have to back up and get those cells liquid
as well.
You've got to secure the Rojah.
Imagine if you liquid next.
No.
And let's see what.
And next time, try and get something a little more
done with the Aegis.
Yes, maybe they show a TP vibe.
Yeah, maybe just let that tier 1 mid stand.
It's cursed, do not touch it.
It's fine, you can win the game through the side lanes.
The mid lane might be risky.
Has Aces' itemization going down too.
Is going to have the AC, so more overwhelming physical damage.
As we see, Liquid still double, tripling, quadrupling down
on what their strategy is, right?
They're just looking up off these targets.
Yeah, next, tank up.
Everybody tank up.
Everybody get ready.
If you get to survive those long fights,
we can see the success they can have.
Chirra, almost 24, taking Watson, getting close to these scary level 25s.
We'll focus around the Roche Tower.
In 30 seconds, and we will see it back in play.
Both teams are going to be bringing their best efforts to contest this Roche.
And they do now have a four staff on the side again.
So the potential, besides the core, you know, Watson's not going to use it right now.
Sure, just to give them a chance to take the chance.
Get that window for the BKB to come off if they don't end the fight with a preemptive press
Which they might do so as well as we're seeing
True, you know if you are Watson or Nishin sort of moments
You might have to sort of look to the future and press that BKB before the jump comes in which is
Can be a risk, but can be an absolutely payoff if they made the correct read on the situation
I am next. They're looking for the fight themselves setting up. They throw the croak
No one's gathering together. They're looking for something here on liquid
C-Boxy!
They can't have...
They put stuff away with a Harpoon, then it was going on a Liquid, they're back off.
That was dangerous for a second there, if he doesn't get that Harpoon, his Blink did get cancelled.
They could have forced a BKB, not going to be the case though. Liquid...
Trying to buy more time, Topu getting close to Agadam's end level 20 himself, so burst damage is continuing to grow.
As we do see for their draft.
And Burbali... I mean, I love it, right?
He's now going grieves himself so it's just if you see the idea that both teams are really trying to do here
One team just trying to delete targets other ones just sustaining nick egg also going to go for the mkb of this game
So it's not going to be the most explosive damage from the tiny with the day
Targeting in fights will be really important. We need to kill one guy
You don't get outhealed this guy has heart now so first thing is important
Yeah, absolutely. So boxy there trusting that at the moment they still have enough to all in one target
and 100 to zero them which it might be slightly wishful thinking but it's the big
kid yet you've got a half right you've got to believe that you can turn up on a
hundred to zero or someone in sure if they get all five here is on one of them
even though the heart they can do it it's going to be close but they can
still a hundred to zero a single time and now let's see right when you when a
lineup starts to realize that you are looking for that right that's when
people are gonna start itemizing perhaps with an A on this maybe the
wind wakers these type of saves are something they're like it's gonna be
I think I mean I did see chiro was cute. Okay. He is gonna go for it
So when like his fantastic this I think it's one of the best
The best time in the game to counter that sort of place that one burst
So besides that a lot of money versus it is gonna take some time, but it's a very good item on I mean
It's a good item on anybody if you know, I think I want to see multiple sure eventually I would agree
DM level 20 double catchy leg
smoke up from liquid looking to get the catch trying to start the numbers
vintage this fight we'll get you a rose sham we'll get you an a just a little
let me get you a barricade
find the star, they won't be able to save him
watch this punch, open the opening of the star
he's done, he's done
he's done, he's gonna try to get the BKVTP away, he'll make it out of there
it's actually all star up and it's a five
to the BKVTP from DM, nothing to put a stop to that, so get the rest of the three out of there
But another situation where once he's not getting the chance to get the BKB off,
he's fully controlling him and at the moment they don't have enough ways to get in that opportunity to press BKB.
He's literally just getting perfectly changed.
So, bot season for a split second, a punch into a snowball, into a solo guardian, into a dark break.
But even if he gets the BKB off in an instant there,
I still die because I can't breathe things all night long.
I think he's a star.
Sure, I'm a little bit shaky for some of those times, but when they're getting these single pop targets,
They're getting them. Yeah, I mean that was the 100 to 0 that we just heard foxy talk about they put it into action straight away
The play pays off. They get the ages on to Nisha
Let's see where these where's this you're gonna go. He's not gonna be solo hitting towers. I tell you that
Watson what do they do to protect him right? He's got the profit page
Well, he did get orangey with his neutral item, which is fortunate gonna go for the satanic, but they will go through this
So maybe there is going to be as we said some other item slot that they need to go for.
I see Chira is hitting it away from Wind Waker and speaking to Chira.
He went for a very hard EB relocate to farm a couple of camps and they read that immediately.
Perhaps they're feeling some of this pressure right now with just popping their horde.
They were straight in with the reactions for that.
They could not slide down with any type of number advantage at 80 seconds.
It's a long time for them to get the skill to go for this Rax push.
Yeah, Nix has to be very careful in these next 60 seconds.
Don't want to hemorrhage another hero and then you're playing this 4v5 for the next
two minutes or so.
You'll have to probably back up and get together toward your base, but Liquid is
on the prowl.
Two of the guys.
I'm sure they won't have the St. Tannik here for the hold.
Howdy is standing outside here, this is a dangerous position to be in, if you
can see in Boxing, we'll jump through.
He has to follow up here though, Karo, and when he gets him out of the tower, he's just going to be hit, he's just going to be on the other side of the way!
A fully aggressive move down from Isha! He has something to take off the Aegis to rely on, see if he can get out.
I hope the beat can't be unrun, my guys are going to be coming out from Maliby.
Again, Isha decided on the 22 aggressive side.
The troll in the shackle is just going to connect, once you're supposed to find Stoble, Stoble comes in at once and tries to mess the bail of Isha out of this.
The struggle is going to go pretty deep though. He's attacking pretty low. He's going to start his ground.
Try and heal up the Shackle Cops in the Lump Keisha, and pick her together.
Try to run Keisha to the full damage of Watson and Zanksa, and attempt the TPR. We'll succeed for Vickay.
Oh, it's expensive though. Sheerah buys back. They will get the kill of the Nidgis project.
They will get all of this, but man, that is such an expensive hold. How many heads she is that?
Just a two of them, right?
It's two buybacks coming in.
Look at the big one as you say. Jira Junior having a buyback.
back that's going to slow down his next big pick up or tanks up with the real
friends able to put a stop to TP out from tofu so they they get a fair bit out
of this but it's expensive how much can they get out of the map in return for
using these two buybacks we're seeing them mid lane getting shoved down by
Watson and Chirijunia can they go for any of these pushes we're still tier 2 on
bottom maybe they can sleep directly to top I mean there's a high chance they
can force out this Misha buyback from I mean someone potentially Foxy at the
At least he's gonna have to buy by short.
Depends on where Yandex wants to really hit,
and because the Liquid actually want to care about losing another set,
we'll have to see how they want to react here.
Again, he's shot.
He's two-person-selfie.
He went right up with the TP to the high ground.
And it's the thing is that when you have Aegis and you're versus Windranger,
the focus fire, right?
It just persists the whole time you respawn.
He's still just whaling at you from that distance,
so they could not protect Yandex there.
And as you said, a buyback from Boxy,
Yandex, they're making them work.
Liquid won't be pressured to use the big buyback themselves on Nusha. They'll be able to wait out this 20 seconds or so.
And they're gonna have this window where Chira does not have the buyback.
And as we see, we'll see if he ends up changing the build or not, right?
But he is queuing up a hex now instead of having that win waker.
So the burst, the one shot is still available there for Liquid to catch these targets.
And indeed in terms of the talent selection, as you say, because he doesn't have the...
He went for the right one.
Even though he has this fun synergy with the Windranger and the Focus Fire,
keep him with the talent choice that fits the build.
Maybe he'll say he'll have there eventually.
We'll wait till 30 and I'll go for right time.
I mean, if it's the end of the start, right,
I think both teams would not mind having a little bit of fun
in terms of the later stages.
They might not know it. They might both be sweating.
You know, I can imagine it's pretty stressful
when the game goes late, but everyone else watching
is only going to enjoy quite a treat.
It does so. Highly likely 25 to 25, 43 minutes in.
Really a 6K gold difference to leave the liquid hold
at this moment.
It's it's pretty even on the because just the scare is free and it's having to use that buybacks and the potential for them now
At this point not scaling is hard. It's starting to get a lot of pressure onto Watson
He's been taking that pressure
But as liquids line up his design about first and one target that's where it can be hard for someone like Watson
So we'll carry down this point. Yeah, let's see how they can connect the next move
These shutout butterfly is done a lot so Watson's damage will be a lot weaker now versus the nature's profit
It is but honestly, even if they still catch me as done
It's just so much damage for the days of the focus fire that even if you miss a few hits
I think it's doing a lot pretty quickly
And the push that Liquid can come in, they're both dead, of course they're by back still on cooldown from their last defense, they're out for over a hundred seconds.
and the push that Liquid can come in with is so fast and NP-tiny.
Not able to get the BKB off. They're catching Watson every single time.
I think this time, I think most of the times it's been just the punch into the solar.
This was a punch into an arrow, and he just gets full connected on just dead.
I should check if there was that. Yes, there was. Avalanche into stun.
He just dies. He takes the damage so fast.
It's a terrifying game for him because if you get caught by one stun,
you're just not going to get the BKB off.
And then he's that follow-up, we're seeing a time and time again.
and Liquid always making sure that they have that full lock down
to punish Watson if they catch him in just one spell to start the move.
Liquid synergy on point this game, sure, Nisha, maybe a couple times a hambridge
to take kills through the side again, Dex, but now the push by Nisha, careful!
Oh, Christ, man, they're hot!
It's the Trees! The whole Trees, I'm eating them!
That's very true, this one, gotta be careful standing around those
when the Sacks is ready to turn them against you.
That actually is very dangerous for other people as well,
so if someone else gets caught in little friends, that's not Trees, it might just kill them.
Let's see how much people can get here.
Good window.
No buybacks available in True Humanality.
It's actually step-up teams to be able to get back to safety,
but they're going to have to toss it because of the control.
It's actually threated by the four of them.
He's out.
He does have the luxury of buybacks,
but the mid-racks will be gone.
He's ready to keep the pressure on his TPs down.
The bottom lane gets the trench back out again.
What's the fortification here, Yandex?
There's still so much time to...
Any moments until they'll have the full line-up ready to hold against this.
They do at least still have to tear to talk the undead
Watch it forced to use BKB so early
They tried to walk the FDM, Poxa, BKB
But he's been focused down by the 3F and the Shackle Conceive
Poxa, Disha to stop the Undead going down to the top
But it's not enough to keep the DM log on live DMs gone
Saks is dead, he dies back
And now Watson, he's having to use BKB so early in Spice, he's like, I gotta just pop it.
It's tough for him to just stick onto these targets, kill these tanks of course.
That's the other thing too, they are very tanky, this dawn, this tiny, they're just taking right through it.
Now with the Nature Prophet having the butterfly, having...
Nisha does so much damage.
Yeah, and having, look at all these little things for Nisha, right?
The idol of Screeok's thinking that gives you this extra evasion with the butterfly.
It's actually, now it's hard for him to watch, it's his focus fire now, to go for him at that point.
25k lead.
And they're starting to fall very far behind, they're getting very outscaled now.
He's behind to support Barana. The Barani to catch up to the Iowas well too.
Liquid are in a very comfortable spot. They only don't have Oxy's buyback.
Everybody else has got theirs. The buyback situation obviously for Yandex.
Much, much worse after the next few minutes. So Liquid very much feeling like they're one good play away from closing up this game one.
Let's see if Yandex can prepare for it.
Liquid's game hasn't been the cleanest.
Spill a chance to Yandex catch Liquid and trip them up.
Liquid try and make too aggressive a move or don't make it in full synergy with one another.
The game again gets the catch.
He's going to be able to start things with a lovely pick off.
Malady's gone.
With the Murana also with the level 20 that he's had for some time now you can see it.
every time there's like it's just 2,000 magical damage from these two heroes and
there's not much that they can do to prevent it at this point. Again now Yennex
with the number of disadvantages as well.
To Likwanya, he's got the Hex pick up, Watson, dreaming big, with the
defile rate here. I think he absolutely needs it because I just even with this
Hex right it just it feels like they're lacking damage now at this point to go through all that
liquid has and liquid really never lacking the damage in this game as we
see it. Their preparation with this with their trap it's looking like a great
response to the healing. Since the healing comes kind of slowly, the way these bursties
heal us down, it's just worth having you. And damage on the bottom side also for the
potential push. Brush also, 20 seconds liquid waiting for that.
And for the same play, we finish this one up. And cool to see like no trellis, right? Not
really much anti-heal, literally zero anti-heal. I think they got a jini pollen bag at some
point, and I think Box has been hanged onto that as a neutral item though.
No, a real anti-healing. It's just about blowing them up in one shot.
Yeah, we're gonna see what Ace Translators does, God.
I saw he was skewering it, but at this point, right, like, it's...
It's kind of just like a stat stick as well. Sure, it'll help, but
he's just gonna get tanky with it. We see that they're already dealing with the sustain.
Watch with Link on Nikkei.
Oh, it's a spot, huh? They're buying, though, they're just abusing.
Absolutely. I mean, it's a read in the situation.
We'll see here, BiBac is in place, fantastic for Liquid, the BiBac situation for Yandex, pretty rough right now.
Liquid could literally just go all their bodies, and they will probably have 11 heroes, so X will probably call it 11 or 12, but the cheese as well too, right?
Because they can BiBac to keep back in the foldable. Everybody's got it at the ready in a second here.
What's this so close to the Rapier? Honestly, he's gonna need a slot right, so might just sell something up to BiBac?
Or do you hope for the BiBac? Because he is one of the ones that does have BiBac.
Do you go all in on the rapier or do you play for the buyback goal?
I don't know it's so it's such a hard choice to really up the Watson at this point. Yeah
And even it doesn't even go to the fine rapier at the end all BL because it's literally just him and the entire drop of liquid
As we've seen it's a factor on that one target. So if Watson just gets caught once it is just over
quite
Positions to turn around from here Yandex now down 34k against liquid
Lane pressure coming in from these trients as well too. Liquid, they're looking to close it out.
Anybody that chose will get popped.
And they've got the numbers right now.
So actually he's going to walk it around, they get beautiful!
Got the low ground, the mix, all saving though. They don't want to go too over aggressive.
There's some restraint there from Liquid. They say, hey, it's an enchantress.
It's not actually the one we want to go for. Diving into the high ground, unnecessary.
They're gonna look for a better option. He licks them out of the toss.
You just wait though. Wait for that opportunity for one of them to show. They still have some time until those buybacks do come back up.
Jira does have his at the ready, but DM does not.
Jira's gonna be ready for that level 30.
And if they miss he's ready to try and get that hopefully so these have a
moron of games is a blessing when you do get these you have everything and
you're just a follow-up they just accept the high ground
Cheer up. Be careful how far toward you're standing there.
This is where they want to use their lives to liquid the epoxy.
Now, hesitate to go here by that knowing that there's not the buyback opportunity
for Saksa still on cooldown for two minutes.
The push is coming in. He's building a stopper very quickly.
We're used to cliff.
They have double-soldered already as they're ready for this.
He's trying to get the jump in, but because he's straight over the outside,
he's on the boat for them.
He looks all the way down, but he can't get away with the glimmer, Kate.
This gets pretty low, but survive!
And he's up on A to stay down with the A. He's gone!
Watch for the 30!
Punch him in the snowball!
See the real KT's back to side, it's gonna be enough to keep Watson safe!
Watson gets picked!
I shat!
Pretty nice! I can have a shat!
And he's gonna lock him up! Locked out!
He wants a 60 drop!
They charge the pistol with the A!
Oh no! Oh no!
Oh no, Watson's suddenly going into play!
Nisha's back!
If they could get him out of this one, they can't de-end him out without five-act death for two minutes!
Too many numbers!
And I've lost Poxy a second time!
Hanks is actually out on Tanisha, he won't mind for this!
Look at the lock down!
He caught up on these!
Oh my god!
He takes them all!
Get the double, they look towards Ace!
Oh, and that's you, it dies to Tosu!
They're holding!
Oh, but Mikkei, he's the exception!
There's no doubt about it!
I'm the first to stand up!
There's no doubt about it!
He should die by Mikkei!
Mikkei, focus!
Mikkei!
He's doing it!
Oh!
Look at the use of these!
Like what they felt!
They had the edge!
They had to buy back!
They went all in!
Oh no!
This is a situation!
Why they don't have to make it proper for a hundred seconds!
It's gotta go. I mean, yeah, this has to run down.
Run it down mid.
Beating mega creeps is so-
Run it down mid.
I don't think-
That's that right here, Pudge,
since you got 10 and a half thousand in the bank.
Watch it.
You got the money.
I don't think I see-
Beneath the damage.
This tournament, come back from mega creeps.
Oh, it's hoped for.
I don't think it's happened.
He's caught a spell.
Oh, man.
Five attacks.
There's the right here.
Get the right peers out.
Go for the ancients.
Try and end it.
They're gonna do their best.
They have to go for it.
Run it down the mid.
Oh, my God.
If they can do this,
Head still for 70 seconds.
Oh, this would be a save if they can't do this.
It looked like they had this one.
They had a few mistakes early in the game.
They've got my back.
40 seconds until Boxie comes back.
Watson forcing it.
There's a cliff available.
And they do a three versus four.
The tier fours are falling.
They're dropping fast.
They're going to do something so they can give it up for the upline.
They're trying to pull up the solid body post.
What's it up? Solid body.
They're going to be up there with the team.
They're going to be supply gun for the side of the side.
They're going to have to start the control.
Oh my god!
What a day one of the main event where Avalyla gets into the action.
Oh my god!
I'm speechless.
That was absolutely ridiculous.
Nisha throwing his body in it, but the body ends up not working.
It turns against them.
They shackled from watching the focus fires.
He was the rock for the team.
I cannot believe what we just witnessed.
They felt that they had to take it to close.
They had to buy back, so they had to hit him.
that the play was it was there for them I guess against all the odds are able to
hold against these extra lines the liquid a fight back and keeping it to the
word just holding clutch throughout it all that was insane oh well I was you
don't see games like that every day that is insane stuff and it's only game
one Yandex to game one against team liquid that's the magic of TI that's
That's why we show up. That's what we look forward to every single year. Essentially in
San Diego, what felt like a base race when the odds were so heavily stacked, the liquids
favor. I don't even know where you ended up pulling this win from.
I mean, it's incredible. I thought when the WISC died without buyback, when they did their
like counter aggression to push forward, like that was it. I think we'd have the
game. But then they do this incredible basehold and like Watson, we talked about
I think it was like crazy
carry battle. We had. I think
Mickey shine really brightly on
tiny and he was having so many
moments where he's finding all
these moves. All of liquid
space kind of flowed through
him. And on the other side,
Watson is like responding to it
with his wind ranger. That was
one of the most impactful carry
performances I've seen at
main stage, and we've had to
do a lot of things in the
I've seen at main stage and we've had some absurd performances today already and Watson,
he was the king of this game, he was the story, he was the carry from his landing stage to his
smoke movements to playing aggressively while his eye was farming to clutching at the very end.
And there are moments where it looked so close. These double shackles during the base defenses
were so ridiculous. It felt like when it looked so dire and so desperate for Yandex,
I get chills just rewatching it.
Not alone watching it the first time.
That is actually unbelievable.
This fight, there's a little detail where I.
All skills, the super fast relocate talent at 25 and right as
the dawnbreaker all is coming in, he whips him out.
And then it happens again on the pull out to like the second
dawnbreaker all through some other stun.
It was this was, this was bonkers.
I mean, you mentioned Mickey.
I think I don't know what it feels like to lose a game like
this because he played immaculately.
It was actually an unbelievable game.
It was actually an unbelievable game.
Mayer talks about Watson.
I think this very much was two carries, both popping off like crazy.
And I fully agree.
I think the IOLR was whatever the heck.
Like you didn't even see it in this game.
What you saw was Mikke and Watson going ham-squeezy.
Because I think a lot of other people felt the pressure like crazy and they thrived.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
I think this...
We talked about like Ken Cherry Jr. play Wisp.
And I feel like something that Malta used to say is like,
if you play mid, no matter what hero you play, you have to find pressure.
You have to find a way to make your heroes impact felt in the early stages of the game
And I think Cheryl didn't really show that yeah, and it's really cool to see that like Watson then goes like all good
You know you just hit the creeps. I will do it for you
One of the first mega crew comebacks that we're having at TI as well
We were having this conversation of why aren't we seeing it that often and more often than not it feels like the heroes aren't
Enabling it but you get someone that can a target objectives like a wind ranger
someone who can push waves out like their supports can and you get a recipe for a banger game number one here they carry to carry
Matchup everything about it was so intense
But at the end of the day you also have to wonder this nature's profit for a knee sure a couple of times having a few
Question marks about his positioning they get three roaches and yet these ages
This don't have impacts the way you see other games and other ages is half. Yeah, I mean
I mean, while it was unfortunate, I do think sometimes some players do need to be called out and while Nisha played a great game, he was on top of the GPM game, they made a lot of cool movements by nature's profits relocates and existence, he threw on a couple of those
of those ages is the one fight that comes to mind is when he was pushing that mid tier
one tower with the first ages had that gone differently. This would have been a complete
snowball from liquid then on and we see Watson on the screen as the standout player. I mean,
we can't blame him enough. That is extreme main character energy. Quinn, he was your
former teammate. What's it like to play in a game like that with him?
I mean, I think sometimes he's just he's just a player who goes into zone. I think
he he doesn't talk a lot. He doesn't super lead the game. He'll say some
stuff here or there but I think he very much prides himself on his clicks. He
talks about the really small stuff the way he moves his mouse like how his
hero like twitches back and forth and that's the kind of thing he focuses on.
He's focused on the small things he's about that micro like that's what he
really loves about the game and I think you can see it in this game the way
the last fight where he's blinking back and forth and the angle of the
shackles and which here we focus fires it's all about the minutiae it's
about the tiny things I think that's why it's so cool to watch him play a
game like this where he's on why such a cool player when he's owning
because that's what he cares about it's not this harder to understand
you don't see as much. You see it all because that's all the stuff he cares about.
Look, highlighting CJ as well. Coming into this, we kind of questioned his
hero pool. He was up to 11 different heroes throughout the group stage. He
picks Io. You're now up to number 12. Can you play Io mid? Well, it didn't really
matter at the end of the day in senior because he was able to play it in a
different way than what you would expect a call Io to do. And that's what
really matters as well. Leaving space for those that need it and for
another avenue of a win. Absolutely. I think like Watson shines. He's the star of the show,
but there's a strategy here that's set up like all these picks. Watson gets to pick his win
ranger in the absolute last position of the game, sees every single hero, and somebody
has to tank it. Somebody has to play the hero he's not comfortable on. And in this situation,
CJ took that role upon himself and decided to let Watson do it and make the strategy
be the thing that Liquid answers. So Watson has a free game.
Yeah, that's an amazing point, genuinely.
And I think it happens a lot in these matches where there is something like that,
that there's a hero that this is an amazing hero.
Can you play this?
And there's a lot of pressure in that question because he's being asked,
he's probably not more as comfortable on it as Watson is.
They practice it on Kerry.
And he's like, can you play this?
And he says, yes, I can.
And you're not expected to carry the game because he's silver tier on Iowa.
He's not an Iowa player.
It's probably his first Iowa official ever.
And so the onus is not on him.
And so I think being able to be like, this is stressful.
This is new is a hard experience for me. I am in an uncomfortable position and trusting your teammates and your teammates trusting you
There's a lot there. Yeah, I think that's why he deserves a recognition
Yeah, it does feel like we were watching CJ level up his IO gameplay in real time because the way that he was playing
IO and using his
Wisps at the start and maybe not pulling the lane like you mentioned earlier on IO that there are ways to increase your
GPM in the early game that wasn't happening
But as that game went on and on those relocates at the very end where he saved Watson's ring ranger
We're very clutch and I can see this being a hero that gives
Yandex that injection of confidence or if they can pick it flex it to carry and mid and win games like this
We're gonna see more of it
Even if C. Day isn't the most comfortable on this hero
We were briefly seeing as well our carry to carry matchup looking at all the stats and more often than not
I saw those numbers they were a little bit of a discrepancy
But not enough where it felt like one was out playing the other until you go down the list and you start to see here
Damage there was a 20k difference here. It is
48,000 to 63,000 so almost a 20k difference in here a damage
And that's a lot to be said because the log was letting him live the I was letting him live longer and what do you say?
Well, you know about it. Okay, hold up
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I feel like they had very different roles in this game.
Like, they did. Mickey's going in first.
Literally every single move that Liquid did
was off the back of Mickey finding a good jump.
And for like the vast majority of the game, he was doing that.
So, well, yes, Watson's very impressive.
They had slightly different roles in the games
and they have different avenues towards carrying it.
So, I don't think it's fully representative
of how well Mickey also played.
Would you rather us compare Watson and Nisha?
Is that more did they have more similar roles than in the game? I
Mean maybe to some extent yes, okay. I think more so I just want to make sure that we don't
Let's let's different narratives. Yeah, I've lost I've heard when we picked up the heroes even though they're both guys
All right, I respect that immensely. Yeah, I think it's honestly hard to
Give Mickey enough praise in this game because I think he he mad he massively over-performed
And I think this is what you expect from him and Nisha and this liquid team when you're coming into a game when you expect
Less pressure on them and I think you saw that throughout the majority of series that I think they or like the game rather
That they looked less pressured it looked like they were playing a little more comfortably
Yeah, it's a little shake here
I could feel the tension in the game at the mistakes from both teams
But I think at the end of the day it wasn't a game where a liquid was as confident as I expected them to be
I think both teams are making a buttload of mistakes and I expected look to the mistake
Liquid to make less whereas I feel like by the end of the game
It was actually kind of comparable how the number of mistakes made
It did feel like there was a lot of back-and-forth and adjusting in real time and maybe doing too much sometimes on the side of liquid
Like trying to push a tower when you don't need to maybe going in on an echanteris
Because when ranger is dead and suddenly enchanteris survives and the tides are turned like liquid could have chosen to take it a little bit
More slowly but as these things are happening
I'm sure that they are going into this game too with the knowledge that that could have been their game
And I hope that they can shake it off
I mean I think if you're liquid do you think we win this game eight times out of ten like I think like a 90% of the
Game you feel like it went well, and you probably are gonna be I think the main
Point that you're gonna talk about is the first aegis when each teepeed on the mid tower
And he kind of dies and then they all come and try to like save the situation and then they all die
I think that's like the main
The main talking point after the game where you're just like if we just use the first aegis better this game is easy
I mean even before that we're talking about how
Yeah, next want to build an unstoppable wall for themselves and it felt like they were pushing into liquid side of the map and it was ever
increasingly more difficult for liquid to find any space for themselves, but even in this virus
There's still silver linings for liquid. There's still great early game for them. Yeah
Mica is gonna come turn this fight. He's like I got you guys
It's Watson overperforming if you think coming smoked that isn't putting his team on this rock
I can do it too
And I think this kind of game is so cool to watch because while there were a lot of mistakes being made
There are a lot of very confident skirmishes being taken that I think a lot of teams wouldn't have even had the balls to do on the main stage
They'd have taken it a lot slower
And that's not what we saw today and something that I want to praise like before despite them losing is that they changed up their game plan
In the first 25 minutes of the game
It felt like they were constantly jumping on IO and prioritizing him and then at some point
They realized that he didn't matter so much as Watson did and then every jump afterwards became on the one Ranger
and the game looked easier for them after that.
How do you make that call?
How do you know that Io is no longer an issue?
Because so many times, if you were to come across an Io
in your pub, you want to burst him, right?
He's the one that's healing up,
most notably normally played in support as well,
but he's the one that's healing up a call
that's doing a lot of damage.
So at what point are you making that decision
and what leads into making that choice
that you don't have to prioritize it?
I think a lot of it is sort of actually looking
at how the fights are breaking down
and having this really deep understanding
of how timing is being like this work.
You can hear Boxy's comms in the middle of the game saying that we have enough damage to this guy.
He has heart and we need to kill one hero at a time.
And I think the concept of killing one hero at a time is really important.
It's something that a lot of teams value very highly.
You only have so much damage, and especially when you're playing, it's a lot of healing.
You need to focus one guy and make sure he dies, and then you can go to the next guy.
And so there's a lot of synergy and looking at your teammates saying,
who are we going to kill?
And you see opportunities and you take those opportunities.
And so it's sort of like noticing what your other teammates are doing,
having this peripheral vision almost for how are things playing out and not being two-tunnel
visioned on one thing, having a little bit more of an open mind in terms of the fights.
Yeah, I think it's just understanding the difference between, like, in concept when you play against
Wisp, you should always kill the Wisp first. Right, load a concept. But when you're really,
really good at the game, you're able to recognize that we have enough damage to
kill the Windranger, and in essence, the Windranger is the only thing killing it.
So once the Windranger piece is removed from the game, they all have to run. They
have to scatter. We saw it a couple of times where like Windranger died first and all of
them are just like, BGB, TP, run, like, try to get out any way we can. And I think Liquid
seeing that and understanding that is just a very big representation of this game.
Yeah, and knowing just how close that game number one was between them walking back
on stage with Liquid and Yandex for game two in this best of three has a whole new
meaning. Yandex were able to pull out something in the mid lane. Liquid weren't
necessarily ready for it. It was a fantastic loss picked by the side of Yandex. And
last liquid, we're almost able to get it over the line.
Unfortunately, it doesn't hold them,
but that just means I think they're going to have to bring out
more from the back pocket.
There's going to be a little extra motivation because instead
of you've been in this position before,
you've been with these players, with Will as well,
Blitz as the coach.
So it's like, I can only imagine the motivation is even
higher after losing a game one.
I mean, I think it's always an interesting position
that you're put in because I think usually when you lose
a game, you look at the draft and you're like,
what could we have done better?
But I think it's your liquid.
after this game the conclusion is that our draft was good and I'm really curious to see if they decide to play against the Wisp again.
I think the Wisp didn't look comfortable.
While they managed to pull it off, I would say it didn't look comfortable and I think if they could get the same draft again, the same situation, they will win.
Yeah, I think that's very true and I think it's honestly the biggest story going into the next draft is do you call the Isles bluff?
I think...
And let it through is what you're...
Yeah, I totally agree because I think that's a classic in these best of threes.
If they try a new here, they have a new strat and you lose to it.
Do you respect ban that?
Well, the issue with that is, is that throws off your other bans.
So it may be easy to see game one and say, well, just ban the IO.
It was obvious it was OP.
Well, now you're leaving something else in that you didn't prepare for,
for 24, 36, 48 hours beforehand, and that can throw another wrench in the wheels.
And so maybe you're like, okay, we believe our prep, this game was good.
Like Aiden said, we should have won this game in the same position we would win.
We trust ourselves, we trust our prep, we're going to run it back.
I think that is the confident and the move that asserts Aura
And going back and banning it to me is like that wasn't the problem and you've you've sort of come to the wrong conclusions after losing that game
Yeah, I mean looking at that game
If you're liquid after that you have to identify that the win ranger was the issue and while the IO did throw a wrench
I think the bigger wrench was flexing it to the mid lane because I do believe that like that came into the series
Prepared for the potential carry IO from Watson and having that switch up at the very end is where they were caught off guard
So if anything, I don't think we're going to be seeing these 24 win rangers. Come out if the IO is looked through
No, I fully agree
Yeah, I'm curious
Do you think it's harder to recover from a game like this compared to a game that you just get smack down or a game that you lose in the
Midgame like one that you're right there on the cusp and you lose it
Does do you feel like that hurts more or makes it harder to win the next one?
I think I this kind of game in my mind at least it's good because it shows you that we had every chance to win
And that we don't have to think we don't have that many problems to fix like when we played you guys in the finals
a lot. It sometimes felt like there's 27 different issues. We'll try to address one and then like
when you fix this issue, there's another issue popping up over here. Now you're at the 30 issues.
Yeah, exactly. And you're like, oh no, this was a bad fix and we don't know what to do here. Whereas
I feel like they can feel confident that their draft works. I don't think there's any player
in that booth right now that's thinking like, oh no, our drafts aren't working or we need
to change everything. So I think this kind of loss in that way is easier to handle. I think
If you're an inexperienced team, it might be tougher that you got beat with your best stuff. Yeah
Yeah, not having been put in that position. I can't comment from first-time experience, but just based on you've seen enough
Crumble and stand the test of it done
I've seen enough data and I think in games where you come back from mega creeps
You're still really under pressure. They're just like looking at the players from Yandex
They all seem really stressed out especially DM and sox and CJ. They don't look happy. They don't look like oh
That was awesome guys. We're gonna win game two because when you're carry over performs like that
You also want to be able to rise to the occasion
You shouldn't only Vendota if your carry is putting on a generational performance because it was a quiet game coming out of Largo
And it was a quiet game coming out of CJ
Well a game number one draw with a lot of twists and turns
There was that IO that ended up being changed to the mid-lane there a win ranger overall final pick
for the side of Yandex was phenomenal impact and whilst Liquid were happy with their drafts,
everything that they could do, a call to try and end wasn't enough, but a game 2 is a reset.
It isn't end or be end here, so we'll see how our draft for game 2 plays out.
Team Liquid versus Team Yandex, game two.
To overcorrect or not is the question that you put towards Liquid, is the IO enough of
a nuisance, enough of an anomaly to enter that first phase ban territory or you go
play Yandex, you've had your fun, but this time around it's not going to play out the
same way. We're going to have the overall lost pick and we're going to be seeing Yandex open
up the draft and potentially reveal what they're willing to let Liquid have as a counter pick.
Yeah, this will definitely change things. Considering if Yandex wants the first pick,
the Earth spirit, then maybe they don't get the IO, I can get second phase banned.
Liquid since they are second pick also have an extra ban and so they have a little
bit more choice in terms of what Yandex gets to play. So it's a slightly different
situation, which may mean the first stage is totally different. Maybe NX just passes on the island, says we don't really want it from the first pick.
It's a second pick thing for us.
Yeah.
And just to talk about something that we didn't mention yet, I
do wonder about the decision that CJ had on his I.O. to never tether the Largo.
Like something was going on where it was the Windranger every single fight with the tether and they didn't take advantage of that heal amplification.
And while it worked very well in that clutch teamfight where he reloaded him out,
It felt like a mistake.
Yeah, I think that that's just as an experience on the hero.
It's not understanding the concept of the draft necessarily.
It's just like, I'll play it guys.
Like, this Windranger will win us the game.
I'll just play it and it'll be fine.
Yeah, nerves in the moment.
Sometimes something super basic like,
hey, we have a heal sort of strategy here.
I'm going to tell you the guy that heals.
You just forget because you're thinking about how to press your buttons
and you die and now you're like kind of clammy and you're nervous.
These things mount up and you lose focus and you lose sight of simple things.
simple things. And so I've had a happy knee before plenty of times. It's very human. And
I think also being a game one, you can write off some of this stuff a little bit saying,
okay, game one is game one. But now, okay, you've had a little bit to get used to, to
acclimate to the crowd, to the TI vibe and experience, you've got to bring a little
bit more in game two.
So I think this is super interesting. They decided to ban Urspirit on their own first
pick. And then Liquid took a bunch of time to consider whether they're banning
I'm sure that was a conversation that was just hot because I think banning their spirit like this is essentially saying
We're gonna play a spirit. We're gonna first big whisk if we get the opportunity. Okay, never mind. Just kidding. It's a bounty hunter
Very similar heroes similar heroes
Do you bet this was a hero in group stages the index could do so much on right?
So it was leading the charge the way he plays it bounty hunter
We've seen it before it's always a nuance of a hero that you just hate coming up as against as well
It just is the pain or thorn in the side right that's how painful it is to come up against
But I feel like there's a whole nother level when you add mix get their hands on that
Yeah, I totally agree. I think it's a very toxic here
We talk about socks opinion someone who plays the map who sneaks around who sets up kills
Well, what better here to do that than a guy who's planting wards deep who's invisible setting up on kills
I think it's a great point and I think this hero very much fits
Soxa and is good for Yanix and that socks that is gonna be able to make the plays make stuff happen
And what other people connect and that's a weird response
Yeah, traditionally when you're playing as bounty hunter you want a hero that can kind of follow him around and like stop him from having
Free free reign and wyvern traditionally is more of a hero that likes to sit in his lane
Just play the 2v2 out and kind of win the game that way
So in essence liquid are just not responding to the bounty. They're saying like we're gonna build our own strategy
We don't care about what you're doing. We're gonna build our own thing here. And yeah to extend on what you said
I absolutely agree. I think Sox has the main shotcaller, and Bounty Hunter is one of those heroes that
you get to plan ahead. You get to run into places that you normally wouldn't be able to run to
because you're invisible, put a deep ward, and then you can have the conversation about when
somebody shows here, we're gonna smoke to it, or we're gonna make this move. And I think that
really enables him to be like the leadership voice that they need. I do think an aspect of
it as well, outside of what you mentioned, is that DM's hero pool functions very well
with bounty hunter and the one hero in particular that I want to talk about is dark seer
with clopper being nerfed and support earth spirit not being as popular now that it's
mainly a mid and it's just not really a soxahero either this is kind of the hero that you would
want to pair with the dark seer and do a lot of the moves that we saw with the earth spirit for
at dwc for example like getting that iron shot level three tepying mid and once you have dm on
a hero like dark seer you're always going to be comfortable on yandex because you know that
regardless of how the game goes you're gonna have that ability to take that one teamfight initiation
with Vakvaal and potentially change things. It's definitely a hero that fits DM extremely well.
I also think Liquid is one of the best anti-Darkseer teams because Mika likes to play the Zixpans,
these tinies. He has really good hero answers to Darkseer which I think he would gladly pick
into it. So it's interesting to see if they dare to go for it even against Liquid. Yeah it's
definitely an important dynamic in this draft and I think Liquid is considering it and so is Yandex
because Tharx is also great against Wyvern. You've got magic damage through the shield.
And also, Wyvern likes sort of a controlled calm fighting that she gets to sit in the back
and wait and look. I'm going to press heal on this guy, curse on that guy, and I get to press my
spells in a nice manner. And Bounty Hunter is tracking you. He's seeing you and causing some
shenanigans there. And then suddenly Tharx is there. He vacuums you in, breaks your positioning.
Like these types of heroes, things like those or Pup or Storm stuff that makes
Wyverns fight awkward and uncomfortable. That's not what he wants. He wants to sit back in the fortress.
Yeah, I wonder how much of it is just Dota coming full circle, where we've had support spying first item, Essence Distiller, for like five months now.
And then someone remembered, hey, found me a hundred, that's it, for free.
At level 6, I don't need to buy an Essence Distiller.
He also works really well with Essence Distiller, because you can like put it somewhere where you don't see any heroes, and then they walk into it and then you get the track for free.
So it actually has kind of cool synergies that they add him to.
There was only one ban that Liquid had to themselves in the second phase and so we're questioning
what is a combo or something that the bounty hunter can set up strongly that they want to
take out.
Their answer is Necro and an instant pick of a clock was work to open their phase.
This is an interesting one because it's two supports, which is not something we super
typically see.
It is ranged plus melee, which is nice.
Clock goes in for you so Wyvern has a little more space to cast the spells, but
It does mean you have to pick two cores back to back and it can be awkward to find synergies between cores because they're not reigning with each other and that is often times the kind of synergies you pick together if heroes that actually work together in the early game and cores don't often do that.
There's no, I agree. I also think we we touched on it in the pregame. I like what liquid's been managing to do way better during TI compared to other events this year is they've managed to enable ace and that's mainly been through boxy playing ranged heroes.
And in both of these games now, they've kind of fallen back into like a little bit of old concepts
I think even in the previous game Watson, er, sorry, Ace's game wasn't back good
He was not top of the networks the way he wants to be
So, er...
Okay, oh nevermind. Sorry, I got confused
You thought that was something you picked out this time of liquid?
I was like, what is happening?
But no, okay, this makes way more sense.
You haven't had a clockwork off-flame?
I don't want to hear about that right now.
I want to hear my platform call saying I
Understand the good way run back for yandex because we talked a lot about the carry performance
But malady also had a really good early game
Like he was able to kind of make moves hide in trees kill after the tormentor like he he had the confidence
But we didn't see from him and a lot of the good stage games in that game one
Yeah, absolutely, and now they've got potential flex on the IO again
So that's one of the problems whenever one of the problems presented when a team picks two supports
First on second pick is you have to show your core first. Well, they show a flex
So they didn't really show the core first
So now liquid gets zero lane counter picks on these two picks here
Which means potentially on the last pick of this next of this upcoming phase is big and get a hero
That's really good against you and either lane or in game and there's there's there's some danger there
Liquid have to be tempted to pick Darkseer with their clockwork and their Ember now to take it away from Yandex
That makes it so that what you mentioned Aiden about the ranged hero synergy between ace and boxy
Enables this hero and gives him a lane. Yep. Also, they've banned up dawn breaker and underlord and when I think of ace during this tournament
Those are like the first two heroes that pop up in my mind
No, I think he he's for ace
I think this is quite an uncomfortable position right like he doesn't have his range boy his two favorite boys to play are banned out and
Like you said, there's the dark sea right like do you go for it? Is it something he's comfortable playing?
It has good synergies with the heroes.
The time is ticking down though. Like I think it's a great point.
I think he hates this position. He hates playing double melee.
He doesn't like dragging waves or getting losing lane. This is Darkseer.
But this hero is also not that strong in lane. You have to pull waves.
You're also saying I'll get to full free lane because you can never like trap this guy in cogs. He's super fast.
If Darkseer tries to run you just run away.
And so you've contested that okay, I'll get to free lane if you want.
Now the enemy can get a Yennex can counterfeit the Embers Spirit mid they can pick an offline here here
There's no this pick doesn't present pressure per se
It just has nice synergy with liquid heroes going back to your point of liquid just we're gonna pick our heroes
And we don't really care somewhat what you're picking. Yeah, I do think Yandex
Put liquid in the position where if they didn't take darts here
They would have picked up themselves as well for DM like we mentioned and this makes it so about this IO
This IO is a carry by the way, and this is a midfielk. I just want to say this is a midfielk
versus Ember. It's cool in an hour everyone. This is Metslark versus Ember and this is
IoCarrie versus Darkseer because he's not at all bothered by this lane and I would be
surprised if we didn't see it happen this way. I find this kind of funny because we
were in the green room during some other game and I was like, you, Huskar's kind of
weakness, like what's like the Ember cheese? How do you cheese Ember? Because Ember
always gets cheese and Quinn goes, it's Slark mid. And Unison Ember's like, Slark
ma bro. Well one person who has played that matchup before is CJ in the groups
He played slot he got a win with it too. So it isn't this oh, I'm gonna try and have this flavor of ti show the creativity
It works. So now we're having two
Fantastic mids come out from CJ where he's really showing up on a main stage
It was versus Ember as well that he played than it's like so he knows that it works and I am this is when I like
Yandex how they draft her on CJ is if they pick him Connor pick heroes
not just like randomly putting in a hero that'll be good for the game, no, they give him something to
dumpster the enemy in the thing.
Yeah, the Slark against the Ember is absolutely amazing. I think the one wrinkle here is, is
Mika is a very confident Ember Spirit player, and so there is a world where they put the Ember Spirit safe lane
and they pick a new mid to either force the iOtogo mid or to dumpster Slark. Slark against Ember is awesome.
It's a great mid, it functions supernaturally and well, but Slark with a losing lane for mid is about the most worthless hero you could ever find,
and so I think you have to consider that and
It's definitely something you need to keep in mind.
How is Slark able to take advantage of Ember
in the ways that we're not seeing other heroes
be able to do in this patch?
A big part of this, he can just manfight you in the shield.
You're not trying to break the shield.
You skill your third spell, which steals regen
and movement speed, and you just hit the guy
and he presses the shield and you say, I don't care.
And you keep hitting and you steal his damage
and the trade gets worse and worse
for him over time where it's traditionally
Ember, the trade gets better and better
as the flame guard damage stacks up.
It's very efficient damage for mana.
So he kind of breaks Ember's main dynamic,
which is abusing Flameguard, and it only gets worse.
I think the Micky Embers Spirit Point is very, very interesting,
because I think it is something that they're capable of doing,
but what would you say the answer to this argument is for Niche?
Any ranged hero that just hits him in the head,
like it's a hero that has no moves, right?
He's all about, I'm gonna hit you,
and so if you're just a ranged hero,
then Slark can actually never do any damage to you.
He can't actually hurt your hero in any way,
and so I think any ranged hero that just hits the guy,
I'm not exactly sure off the top of my head, but like something like even like a nature's profit, which is bad
But some guy that's bone bone bone bone ideally you want to be Lena nature's profit or like some Metro, right?
But they're all banned out exactly
What's the downside to maybe swapping it and having a slot carry and a I admit is slot doxy
It is not really a lane that feels comfortable for the slot
If I were a slight carry it would be a response to look good last pick if they thought that it wouldn't be
Comfortable on whatever happens and it to me it looks pretty comfy
I mean, Steady should play it. He should double down on that.
Okay, so you're saying we still want to see that?
Yeah.
Sloth mid. Well, you're going to get what you wish for there.
It is a Sloth mid and an IO carry.
They haven't picked yet.
You can tell they're talking about it in the booth.
Yep, there it is.
It's the Ember safe lane.
It's the Mickey Ember, yeah.
Okay, so this mid lane sucks.
It's the exact archetype.
Winner's going to hit him in the head a bunch of times.
But, this Tidehunter now is a very free game.
He's playing against Wyvern and Ember.
He's going to press anchor smash and he's not going to take any damage.
I feel like that is troublesome because
Having Tidehunter with a really good game is one of the best heroes to have with a really good game.
And a big part of Tidehunter having a good game will change the way that Yandex play this because now Sox is freed up.
If Tide does not eat health, this Bounty Hunter is going to be mid. He's going to be helping CJ Sox.
He's going to be rotating. He's going to be making moves happen. And Sox is just happy with this.
I think the biggest thing for this game though is in the last game I think that would conceptually answer the Wisp problem extremely well.
Well, they had high single target burst damage and in this game. It's really not it doesn't exist in the same way
I think it can be much harder for them to kill that one guy to accomplish the concepts of they did so well in game one
I think this time around is a lot harder with their heroes. Is it also a different build for a carry?
I do we see a different avenue get taken?
Usually how much of a dominator comes out before agonist, but typically it's gonna be home acts part the things that were used to
Yeah, my biggest worry for Yandex this game is this mid lane like Slark literally cannot do one single point of damage to win ranger
He's 600 units away. How can you hurt him?
And I think this lane can potentially get very out of hand and he put Nisha in a position to say hey
I messed up that last time with some agus's. I'm gonna prove you all wrong. I'm still the goat. All right one-on-one never loss
Okay, that's he's in a position to say that okay. What if it's no longer a one-on-one?
What if the older supports from Yandex come in? Okay, then all bets are off
All that's wrong if those rotations happen, but Nisha wanting to prove himself here, Yandex
wanting to prove that that draft is superior.
The only way they can do that is with some words, the tsunami.
Thank you very much.
Yes, I am joined by Excel of the team at Yandex.
All right, give it to me real Excel.
Should you have won that game one?
What was going on in your head during the last five minutes of that game?
I mean, it was a crazy game and you don't judge winners.
So, you have to go in and you win.
Okay, so then that's why you seemed confident still.
You go for the IO, but you didn't go for it first pick.
You waited, went bounty, they still didn't ban it,
and then you were like, okay, now I'll pick IO.
What was the reason?
That was just too many heroes we wanted,
and the side of the bounty is, it's just different.
And you don't wanna be doing the same thing over and over again.
Okay, I wanna ask you about your entire TI experience.
This is your very first TI,
And I want to know what it's like getting into that booth,
the door slides behind you, stressful games like this.
What's the experience like for you?
I mean, it's a great experience, especially when you're winning
and I'm super happy we made it to playoffs.
Even though a lot of people put us on a very high seat,
like the Raitus, and they expect us to do very well.
I don't have any expectations,
and I didn't have it when the game, so...
group stage wasn't the easiest one, it was fine.
make it through and how we play here. So for the happiness shows Excel
congratulations on the game one looking forward to how game two goes as we send
it to our casters. Thank you very much there tsunami and
Excel it is time for game two the game about to begin. We had quite the game
one. How do you beat that game one? How do you beat that game one? We'll say
we'll say already with the draft we get some fun stuff so you know it's a
good start already we're getting this switch up right we're seeing
Liquid pick the amber mid, initially, maybe, maybe even not, allowing the Slark through.
A lot of these upper amber pickers are not doing right. It's always banned. They leave it in, so of course, the mid Slark, it comes out.
Then Liquid say, well, you know what, we weren't going to put it mid.
Anyway, we're ready to play safe lane. Get something else. Let's see how it goes.
Let's see how it goes. It's not something that's... I've done it often. It's always about dodging. It can work.
It does have the Darkseer with the iron, so you can see synergy with their draft, but it can be a risk.
for the lane right it's exactly it really really can be a risk honestly I feel
like a lot for liquid sort of was touched upon by the panel you're looking
an Asia you're looking at hundred percent he's a win ranger against the slot
he's he's got a dumpster this like a hundred percent because even that top
play yeah he's playing the darks here into the aisle yeah easiest way on
the counter I was just gonna chill you have sustained you play from a
distance unless you make some massive mistakes you should be finding an
Ember a hero that tends to be designed about having level event in that solo and it's like super fast back flame guard
Is currently at the moment so not gonna be the case and he is playing versus a potential
I mean not a part lane and you could say because it's a double melee the tide and the bounty
But the tide is gonna get away with the free lane
He's gonna be able to chill down here for the most part unless he makes a big mistake
So let's see what Nisha do. I feel like yes a lot of pressure much is on me show
But he's got a lot to prove after that
Not the cleanest of games, but you know I've looking at the group stage performances liquid
It's gonna happen to them. I think pretty much sure read the series. They won two one
They would always win that they would always lose the first game. That is that very true
They always take time to adapt their opponents
They've had that game one and my goodness quite a lot of back-and-forth moments to adapt them true
They couldn't turn things around here in this game, too
Pretty well that last game in terms of how to answer the ILR though
But yeah, nothing. I mean definitely not the case when they're losing the game as he said
You don't judge the winners and they were the winners of the side of the index
So great game from them and uh, and just yeah
They them having the sort of the foresight tape be able to close in the way
But they see they left they held nothing back when they had that opportunity to get that win and it was a fantastic
So something I could like to see potentially from tofu is just give the ember the levels don't play next to him
Don't soak the experience right if you're gonna play this Wyvern ember lane
just make sure the Ember kind of plays that. Solo.
You do have to fortify some sort of wending to feel that you are giving that Ember
the flying share of the experience.
So I'd like to see something like that from Tofu.
Sure, he might have to soak a little bit here and there,
but I want to see a majority going towards making it.
So I've seen actually this Io and Slark thing together, Owen.
I can't remember if it was, I think it was Boom Voice perhaps,
or maybe it was Yandex. I had to look again, my bad.
But I know somebody ran it earlier in this tournament.
It gets pretty insane the HP regen you start to build up so I think it was similar.
I think it was right?
So in a similar vein sure not in the same concept last time where the Lio-Largo kind of thing comes in but these two together when Shlark gets to Shard 2
Heroes kind of just become unkillable so we'll have to see how Liquid ends up dealing with that because this time around like in
Sandia was mentioning Liquid's draft design is quite different than last time about we're gonna just destroy one target explode them
You can't even really do that first of the slark gonna get the sword eventually
He's gonna be able to get safe
So a bit of a different style that we have coming in it from both sides and we're gonna see a pause
And I think that's the thing is all going back to that game one
You know you talk about who was sort of the solid rock for liquid. I feel like it was making it was one literally on the tiny
Literally he was doing some fantastic work
And I was in this game being put into a position which just as we said we've seen it before December safe lane
But it's definitely not one of those things is like oh my goodness the ember safe play everybody watch out
He's gonna absolutely comes to get it's a lot harder for Mickey to be that strong rock this time round
It is but the important thing is though the embers not shut down right because otherwise you send the ember to the slot
Lane and it's gonna be an ember who has a pretty off that they have to make
So absolutely they have to make this man, and I'm curious to see too that maybe if Mickey
I'm seeing the item cut up. It's not your traditional, but does he go vessel from safe playing ember versus?
Iow and Slark? It's a good vessel game. The argument is there for it because there's no Largo to lick it off this time.
But there is a one-lack.
There is, sure, but you're just going to use it on the Iow. It's the Iow carry, right?
So I could see a world where he potentially does do it, but I don't know if he's carrying it.
That's fair. And I'll tell you why it can work as well. Obviously, you do have to be sure again on this hero in the mid.
It's a win-ranger, quite like the Nature's Prophet.
He's the carry.
He built the right click.
He's the carry.
So absolutely can work. It's just a question of whether you can get anywhere close to a similar sort of timings on that pickup and on the levels as you would if you were the end of the minute.
Exactly. So yeah, I'm really curious to see how this is going to go down as Sokso. We're seeing 11 last hits on the bounty. So he's gotten a lot of wards, I believe he killed some couriers as well too.
So that's inflated for him at the moment. So as we see DM, a lane that he's put in a position to be able to farm it. Micah's got a free bar, but same thing for DM and mid lane.
the one that we have to look at right because Nisha it's just designed for him to just completely destroy the slot and so far
Yes, 60 and 177 to the 10 and 3 and boxing out even making them move over to be even more annoying
Yeah, they need this just do not let this slot get away with any sort of stuff. Don't let him play
Yeah, they're gonna have potentially I mean honestly
He could become pretty dead weight pretty fast if he gets ends up getting pressure too hard
Yeah, because that's the deal would you rather be the team that's got a
underfarm slot mid or a team with an underfarm ember safe player. I'd rather be the one with the ember, you know what I mean.
So if they comply with his tier it doesn't matter what goes on in Mikay's game and the thing is obviously at the moment Mikay's having a great game.
So it's not even a concern that he's not getting farmed. He stops the S right now. So this approach from Liquid definitely looking to test Yandex's approach with this mid slot.
Liquid have clearly come prepared with an answer.
And overall for the Emperor game if he does get the early Flameguard max looking at the magical damage of Yandex early
They could definitely have some difficulties breaking and burning that flameguard with him running them down
It's gonna take time right the IO in particular is all that magic damage in the bush wax that can come in
So see how that goes down Watson though. He also has free lane
We didn't talk too much about the IO but the IO ever starts here
He's just gonna free farm up there too. So the Dominator timing it's gonna be very fast
And let's see if this time also where you get next has the edge on the global how much that's gonna matter because last time liquid
They can respond according they just profit on they can always respond to all these global moves this time around
They don't have that much they have the ember to match the mobility, but that's about it
So what since relocates could be pretty devastating?
So pace
You're a junior
Constantly being kept very very low in this lane. It's got the raindrop. So he's got ways to at least protect himself
So some of these power shots, but socks has got to come in at least to annoy me show
He's doing it. I think that was what we just have to start up. I think that's the fifth courier in the five minutes
So it's pretty insane. I'm able to find when sacks is on his bouncy. You do not want to be a courier
Well, yeah, I mean looking at the game stay right now, right? You see it's zero zero, but you know
The windrangers completely free farming versus large and it's actually getting to the blue
Yeah, he's keeping an even with his courage, not sad.
And he's even the room here now too, so against the regen, we'll be looking to prevent a...
...Nisha from just grabbing in. Sure, there's no bottle lane actually in this game.
Yep.
This is pretty interesting, usually you don't see a team.
I mean, both teams without a bottle hero, this is going to be one of those games with no bottle.
I've talked about the bounce as well. I've also talked about the two opening picks, right?
We're seeing some teams, they love the bounce.
They do.
This is one of the teams that will do it.
First pick material, it's not a surprise because of the team.
Overall, where do you place this hero right now?
Is it as highly valued as some of these teams of Allergy?
It seems very good versus certain teams, especially two,
because the map is just so massive,
it's giving so much information.
And I feel like some teams aren't responding
as accordingly as I would have expected.
First pick, Wyvern.
Yeah, in the past, some teams,
I mean, this isn't really the matter right now,
but you can just go for these pushing, aggressive lineups,
and Bounty does nothing into group up in most situations.
So this game, he's into a Wyvern,
and he's good versus the Wyvern.
He's really owning these first seven minutes and insane amount of D-Words as well as we're seeing on top of those career slumps and even finding that kill on 10 BK but before he hits the 6, he was very close to having that finished up there.
Still, the slot case continues with the struggle.
He's a very good player.
He's a very good player.
He's a very good player.
He's a very good player.
He's a very good player.
He's a very good player.
He's a very good player.
He's a very good player.
He's a very good player.
The slot case continues with the struggle.
Yeah, but if this game does sort of go down the way of mid-takes, despite having a good farm,
you know, it's got the gold, but just obviously will not have the chance to solo XP, to solo levels.
And if Chiratuny is able to have more impact with the lack of farm that he's had in this mid lane on the slot,
I think we'll kind of maybe learn a lesson of maybe the Ember safe lane is just that hard to pull off,
pull off that it's just not a situation where you want to end yourself in with a draft and
one of the reasons why we have seen, I want to say the majority of the times where Emma's
been picked, Slark has always been bad.
It has been.
Just having Ember aside, it's just not the same.
It's sure if you can still get the farm, but it's about the pressure that you apply.
Ember is a hero that just applies so much pressure, and if he is playing from that
slide behind, it can be very different.
So we shall see how liquid it is.
That's all I've said.
It's going to be a test for liquid.
Yeah, truly.
I mean, already game one was quite a test and a test that they failed in
the end.
That is true and Watson let's see out the pace that he gets far because we do have to talk about Watson to
Literally as clutches you could possibly ask for this last game completely carrying the game this time playing the IO
He's a good IO player. He's very comfortable with it plays with the dominator and he's already set up for success here
Absolute free farm. He's playing into Darkseer 2 who Darkseer versus IO the wall does not this is a pretty pathetic wall game
When you look at it on paper
Usually Darkseer's pick means the wall can be pretty good
Over the walls to stacks where they find a they gotta be able to finish off a few of these big creeps and ancients as well
On top of that a socks is early game so far. Yeah, he's pristine
Mickey with the build those to the arms. Oh, baby. It's already so he's dreaming big
Dreaming big and it's an item overall that not too many heroes actually purchased. You're not picking a carry
Really in this meta outside of what maybe a specks we even that we haven't seen that much as this
Yeah, that's true. I guess it is life stealers the other year who are really picking an asset plane to farm the radiant
So it takes a long time to get dogs sometimes and like we're saying and look we're indicating
Embry is your hero that wants to take take place if you're playing that slow pace
We'll see who's designed ends up feeling better who actually
Comes away with at least this old easy game because you're gonna just give Watson now
He's gonna get a free act. Yeah, there's no pressure on it. What's the one because Nisha?
He's on the evil stuff up. He's going this maelstrom obviously on the wind ranger
So it is a fair bit of greed here from Liquid.
They could get punished for it. There's a lot of team fight.
There's a lot of things that can come together very quickly from the side of Yandex and DM.
A hero that we don't see picked too often because he can't just get punished in his current turret meta.
He's gotten away with the lane completely.
Saks is nearly getting away with no current, it's not the fact that he failed.
Surely, are they going to be able to kill him for this?
They're going to have to shadow walk back up.
Their catch is really not the best until they have the hookshot.
He really is doing some.
Oh, he is so good.
In this first 10 minutes, Saks are the MVP by far.
Oh, yeah.
But what's been going on across the map in favor of Yandex.
That's dangerous too, as a first pick being able to have this type of effect in the 10 minutes is pretty crazy.
Top also now, Ace.
And he speed himself away, still has the surge act that he should be able to.
It's a chance, yeah, a little bit too far for Saks to try and set up to buy time for Malady and Walshens again.
Look at the Dom Krupo, and in the mid-term too, Saks did block the ancients while he was in that vicinity too.
So no extra farm for the Darkseer.
from the side of yandex is playing that economy game and the slot he's only
700 behind the win ranger already he has absolutely gone through this lane good
enough without enough in the end he sure we saw him try he was putting the
pressure on honestly this was just very good safe place from cherry making
sure he never fed in the matchup and didn't try and overstay as well come
didn't push for CS that he wasn't going to be able to get and the
bonus played it very carefully all this bonus gold from the bounty to
absolutely adds up right as you said that one was it six or was it seven
it was something around that so yeah he's been giving so much extra gold so
much extra information they just eat time I'm looking at it liquid they're gonna
farm a radiance they're gonna farm a midway ranger obviously was his
maelstrom there I feel like they're hoping that the undex isn't gonna do
something the yandex is almost certainly gonna do the yandex is gonna
come running at them the diffusel blade if cherry tuning is a good time and on
this diffusel blade. It's a great game. The setup they have between what any of them,
Reisslacht, Founcy, Tide, Woodwind go in, Watson's going to be relocating on top of him.
They're going to feel a lot of early pressure, Liquid.
Tofu is going to have to be in pretty prime position, it feels like in that mid game with
no curse, the kind of turrets, these aggressive moves that can come in, because the team
fight, it's very strong in the end mix when it comes together with the IO in particular.
Sure, Liquid has responsive team fights, it just, we'll see what Mika can do until
gets radiance because before radiance he's gonna be a bit underwhelming. I don't
think he's gonna want to turn up a tool. And that could be dangerous, right?
If he doesn't show up to some of these early fights versus the IO, the IO could take over.
And even when you have the radiance on the Ember, it's not like, whoa!
It will eventually feel good, but the radiance alone, you're still gonna die.
You're very vulnerable. You need time. They'll build the burn heroes quick though.
I and show radiance flame guards you can show what they wanted to hear so
Let's see if that ends up working for them though. But yeah, yeah, I feel like they're cruising right now
Especially what said at the timings and I come pretty soon here. It's diffuser blade. It's only about 700 gold away
Really big up for the land nicely charity and good versus pretty much everybody
versus everybody that the liquid has this time socks on
For the novel get a knee she gets the kill three heroes two cores to rotate the deal with socks as obnoxious
pressure that he's doing and wall was used. Just to push him away. I mean, so I'm just giving info,
the baseboard that he placed earlier, scouting things out, so that'd be his careers.
I think Yandex just has been literally mad at him since he had the moment right now. They know
everything that Lydk is doing because of the way he's going. I'll tell you what, in terms of
control, they've got some quite annoying options right, Yandex. They have the pounce, and they're
also the anchor for the tide this game. The anchor is very strong. The anchor is strong.
Bruins all three of their cores, right? I think he should really, I can't help.
I think maybe it's a first item. I would consider that good this game on the tide after having the scraps essentially
Yep, but just go for it. I I think D. I might think about that. Yeah, it's it's gonna be very effective against liquids
Liquid overall just don't have the easiest ways to gain right this is just gonna be a lot of farming
So we'll have to see if they're farm if their plan ends up working in this
He is caught up completely with the right literally same goal. Yeah
up. That's able to get involved in some more action there.
It's totally unfortunate.
I just, it really kind of accelerates fast and gives me a
little confidence that it's going to deal with this agonism.
I just, I think that really is the question.
There's no way they forgot about the slot, being able to be
picked against the Ember.
This has to have been the plan from LiquidLive, that they
were like, haha, we're going to do the Ember.
I don't miss a thing.
I think they might have been a slip up.
Yeah, they did a last bit of picking.
We have a way to pick drop.
Look, Perce, look at that.
We'll get Sox the Fronk down, but they'll lose their Shrine, Watson will be fined to get out as well too with the rerelocate.
Boxy is looking for him potentially on the rerelocate, but not something you can do without the win right here.
Not an easy kill, any damage.
Wyatt, game from Nisha, he's just farming, going for Maelstrom.
Galix done!
Okay, enough for a third of it.
Junior, with the Fusul, he's going to be quite annoying.
He's going to be all over the map, getting these pick offs.
him in the bounce he can really charge it just I am they're going to ruin the
supports they are they're gonna get the money we're the one saw the track
potential from the bounce it's top time's here for liquid it's gonna be a
dangerous couple moments here until they do have the radiance on the
wind on the ember to see what they can actually do to deal with this
pressure from yandex is again next they got everything they wanted and
more in this late oh absolutely how this lock is this first 15 minutes
yandex they feeling like this one is very much in the direction of being
in the back.
3K lead at the moment here, DM as you see, he's still shooting up the blink first, they
might just want that to be able to jump the back lines, but already they can get aggressive
and go bottom, bounce?
But the ramming into the pad is a little out of the stop shot, it is easily enough.
They can't change the distance of the bounce there, but ended up not battering.
He missed the bounce, he missed the bounce, just sort of the matter of the right clicks.
Okay, Voxy, can you get a connection here on the chariot, he's going out of
the base.
He is out of this, I don't think they've got anywhere to chase him afterwards, and
if anything, they've just got to be careful, you don't want to be running into this.
And this IO can come in at any moment.
Oh yeah, watch until they're ready if the call's sort of made.
I mean, watch is getting too much freedom Owen.
He's going to be level 15 very soon.
I mentioned at the last game how strong the 15...
Where does the pressure from Liquid come from?
He's not going to be putting pressure on him.
That's why I thought that...
This Emperor's not going to be putting pressure on him.
That's why I thought he might do the...
Even though it sounds super weird,
just doing the best from the same flame from the Ember,
because I thought he was going to play faster,
but not the case right now.
This is tough to see these next moments from Liquid,
from Liquid how they're going to be able to deal with the pressure that comes in
Watson 15 is about to hit and the damage is insane when you do have this
talent this early and he's got to save I do want to secure even potentially
getting the shard a little early on the slot to since the aisle is going to be
so massive all you know this is protective yeah I'm another level
completely ruin any opportunity of the mark with the bush
Oh, and this is insane. It's APA, Lee Watson comes in, cleans up, gets out, Chirra gives his life, but he's like, I don't care, I set up for the dream forest. Track kills aplenty.
And Saks, he treats himself to a 70 minute blick dagger on the bouncy. They are having a lot of fun this game, Yandex. I reckon this one must feel fantastic to play right now in the booth here on Main Stage.
They don't even have the radiance yet for the ember. Mick came out zero and three even though they moved him out of the mid lane
He's suffering just as much as it may be if he would have been there
Yeah, game one was quite the back and forth spectacle this one this one's looking could be could be decided pretty quick with
The way because I owe when you do get ahead like this. It's very hard to play versus because of how much they could press
They need to get him. They will get out of there. They should have to.
He's gonna have a pass in a second.
I'm sure they can finish it here.
There's no way they can. They did. Alright, they needed that liquid.
They did. They needed that big top.
They did not get the last hits though, so it does not have the radiance yet,
but we'll have it finished up soon, but a pretty slow one that's coming out here for him.
Toxa getting into very sneaky territories by the way.
Another base squad that he's placing, so more careers.
This is one of the things you can do when you get the blink early on these sort of heroes.
You not only are able to know like where you can set these careers,
but you know where Liquid's going to want to play because you'll see where the careers are going
so you get full information. You're going to get so much out of this.
Do you ever expect that board or is one of those things that maybe you see in the replay in the
next game if he does it, you're checking it out, but this game is going to lift the whole
direction.
It'll give the whole duration unless they buy a champion which maybe they will do if they
do feel that pressure from the bounty so much.
All right, there we go.
And Radiance done.
It's done here.
Okay, on the safe lane Ember.
Watch it, level 16, and he's got a BKB on top of the agonist.
So a clear separation of almost two items, okay?
Trying to surge away for the bush black, comes in beautifully from Malady.
The damage from these spirits with the 15 talent is insane.
It's going into this fight.
Can you get the mouse?
Bring to the ravage from DM.
They're locking Mikkei down.
He's got the pod charges.
He's got healing.
He's going to be able to get away of us.
He came up the slide.
He's getting more red than he's helped to jump to.
So he's gone, and there's three heroes again on Liquid. They just cannot fight Yandex right now. Yandex are far too strong.
Esha can't get into these fights either. He is having an incredibly quiet game.
Very quiet game.
For being that mid laner in traversive with Slark, he's not finding much of anything.
They needed so much more from him this game, and it's not happened so far.
It's a 12k lead at 19 minutes with the higher lineup, and look at his net worth.
It is insane how much he's getting out of the map here. It's not just him too, it's not just the cores.
He supports because they're getting all these kills too, they're very rich.
Malady's got a vest, he's got the distiller, he's got the press.
Pretty crazy how much farm they're able to find here.
You can see that Liquid, they're having to just use like, Winner's Curse to just hold the Slark back.
Sure they got the kill on him before because they did hold him back long enough, but how are they going to deal with Watson?
He's going right click now, so this is the build we've seen from Watson also from Safely.
Yeah, he loves to deal with him.
He's actually even done the Maelster before the Agonim is a couple of games.
He's going to have it done too, so the farm is going to continue to accelerate and
The point out too is this amazing Mjolnir game.
You're playing for some playing cards, iron shell, but the Mjolnir is going to go crazy
in the fights.
And they get you killed.
Come on, the clock.
She's got back up.
She's going to come in and try and help out.
She's going to use the vending.
I hear you.
He's going to try to move him.
He's going to get him out of the corner.
He's going to get his own body.
Two bots.
The double kill.
Who wants to keep them alive?
It might be only days off, but this is going to be painful.
It's looking.
The liquids to play.
They are getting completely destroyed.
It's painful! The liquids to play! They are getting completely destroyed!
And this is looking like one of those ideas that you kind of have in a pop game.
You're like, it's alright boys, I'm going to take Ember Sade, Flame, Farmer, Radiance, and then you're like, we're what?
It's looking like you've just got to, I mean you've got to go for like the high ground base kind of,
but your map is just completely desolated.
There next, they're playing this at most perfection.
This is going to be one of the most farmed Ios I think I've ever seen.
16k net worth. He's not only getting a damage from Killis, he's getting the track.
They drop a wall down, they're able to finish him off. Every now and then they get a little something, but they need so many things.
They're down 17k at 21 minutes.
And this is even before Junior has the shard too. He was able to survive during the majority of that.
He doesn't even have the depth shrug yet to protect. So on top of it, if he does want to go for that, then he probably will just never die again.
never die again if he does have the eye on you. So from Liquid, you gotta just play for
mass team fight, get the BKB online at least for Nisha and hope that they can overcommit
on you, but it is such a deficit.
There we go. This is a desperate move, but they put a nice desperate place in this position.
The smoke comes out. This goes wrong.
Chiric is just a recovery. Chiric is scouting some heat in there.
He's got the bolt deep.
Look at the reset.
There, dear. We just come in and get the bolt on, Ravage!
He's gonna come across.
He's running a fire.
We're gonna make him use the shotgun.
He's gonna try to spot it.
He's tickled.
He's so tanky.
They just do not have the damage to touch Yandex.
Foxy's dead.
Nisha chased down by DM.
He's gonna get the whip runoff.
Shackle for the final right-flicks of the tight kill him off.
of Ace trying to get Malik, he won't even get in here, watching them with his turn, it's a heal
out of the arc, wall dead on a liquid, and nobody dead on Yandex, Mikkeh, Kiddles is gonna get caught
for it, they're gonna get the team wipe! Another kill for Ziyani, five track kills. When you see
you know at the tide just finishing off your mid-wind ranger with a right click,
the carry ember spirit with a right click, I think you know it's over. Yeah it's looking,
It's looking pretty over 20 minutes 21 22 minutes 21,000
This is that if this the biggest stuff with that in terms of kind of gold lead per minute
It's look yeah when each yeah a thousand go to lead come up a thousand got a minute lead
This is just an approach to the game gone horribly wrong
For liquid and really just sort of begs the question if this was the plan
Did they think that they didn't need to ban the Slark because they had this alternate switch around strategy?
Did they think this would be str- I- you've only got to imagine that they did think so, but it has not been the case
It's just getting completely walked over by Andex.
This- the pivot that you did in this game is 0-6.
Right, the Empress birthday got pulled out of that matchup is actually having the worst game out of all the course.
They are just completely shunning him down.
It's a beautiful approach from Yandex and a lot of credit has to be given to Sokso.
This early game, this first show, it's devastated the game plan from Liquid.
Cori is dying everywhere, information being given all around, and it gets information
right to ensure that Chiricunny didn't die during the laning stage.
He knew when we could try to approach the lane in the mid, get what he could, went
to back away, and get through this laning stage without dying at all in that matchup
against Lee Sinquimran.
And it truly is just looking so difficult to see how they can bring down the IO.
As you saw there, Nisha Foulk is fired, and the healer just ran right down.
And this is pretty...having those actual big healing items, the hard and the satanic.
We've got all the damage.
Essence rings, of course. We did see save them back to back their cheer and...
I think in one scenario, but...yeah, this is...
It's just so limited for what Liquid can do on the map.
They don't really have the damage at this point to deal with the sustain that comes in.
And they're just so tanky to DM.
We haven't even said how...
I mean, you can't do anything, right?
I'm beating beating the ember beating the windranger
That's indicative of how tight her game it truly is in this one
That's a close up closer to the eggs finished up. They're really just getting
Everything on the map here eggs finished up for the slark even more controlled out for the
Quoted court illusive heroes on the
Set up
They're dead, it's...
There should be at least a kill quality right there, they could kill the hooks, and they can get the iron!
There's a lot of stuff, it's a pretty good thing it could be!
Oh, damn it!
Yeah!
That was insane!
Huge kill, and if I'm like with a take that, I'm gonna take a look at what the money goes the way of ace!
It's a lot of money for that one!
My boxy coming in very fast, those cogs back to back to back getting hit, preventing from the DKB to get used at first.
Biggest kill they've ever been able to find, I'm impressed they were able to even do it at this point.
Yeah, I think you know, Yanda is going to be surprised themselves that they could lose Watson in that situation.
It's something. It's breathing.
Much needed kill for Bigney to get the space to try to get the BKB himself to.
He just can't farm anywhere, so huge. Flicks in front of him.
Five pound.
All right, now thanks to that gold burst that he just got from ending that streak of Watson.
Very nice shackles you can see from Nisha there too, being the answer for moments.
Punchback, it doesn't change too much of course, up to Penn State. It still is a most substantial lead to PC.
Yeah, I'm about to punch back.
In our last game, we saw a young Vex win a game against Beggar Freaks. That's not going to happen so often.
That is true. Liquid are at the time there, so this is going to be some of the similar level of impressing.
Impressions.
Look at Staxa.
Here we go. Cheer up, low-flying Toppler in the backlines.
We could turn this into more kills rallied around Ace.
Because Ace, he's being the rock for Joe.
He's got the Shivas, he's got the Kwipe, he's got some of the answers here.
These versus all this magical.
They got to play around those vacuum combos so they can get the coordination
to try to bring down some of these targets.
They can back-back up. They don't really have to force things, to be fair.
They could get some Tannen for Watson.
They were just trying to apply as much pressure as possible without punishment for it.
They still have the availability to go for Tormentor.
they can set up for these Vroshans, and I think that'll be the case for Yandex.
Liquid, a lot harder for them to fight around those turns of Yandex.
Again, Yandex is going in with two heroes, verse five, then Liquid can perhaps respond.
And that's ready to bring the action to them with the full ink rabbit, already again hit the DM.
Chira on the hunt here. I'm shocked he hasn't bought the shard, actually.
Maybe he is just waiting to see if he does get some...
Big Gang. He gets caught in the bounce.
Grabbing stuff, takes up end of the bounce and the first whack, not a chance.
That's don't know how Big Gang ever comes back at this game, Owen. 0-7 and it's just a game where Ember feels hard countered.
Perhaps it's gonna be all Anisha and Ace, but you need this Ember to do something, it feels like.
I don't know, cause we're making sure the Darks didn't do it enough.
Yeah, I'm afraid of luck.
Truly not. Gets the U's off, and the search goes off, so Ace in trouble.
Trouble with the Poundstone delays, Watson's gonna get it over as well, he's able to take out Tocque with the back of the flight
and he's gonna try and run away if he's called by the Leafs!
They'll get the three of them dead, back to getting the gold lead growing on Track here for Yandex.
Track money, level two Track, also starting to build up there.
He has the shard on the bounty hunter too, so even more pressure on the map.
On top of what Sox has already been able to apply this game.
Now he can inbis his buddies, go for even more dive plays.
Nisha
Have to be so careful
Afraid that Saxa would get some sort of setup on to him. Tried to hook shot over in case he needed to be there by his side
These supports are very likely to overtake. I mean they're not slow, but this could be a game where they have like five
Five heroes at the top, but top center, right?
It could just be the Emperor and the Windranger getting surpassed and just the Darkseer up there
If they don't get something going together and the index it is going to be that roast call next to the plate a little safe
Titanic for Watson
You have to I mean you have to have a 5v1 to bring down this Iowa feels about this point
They did do it before but that's kind of what it was. I think they'd have to fight on top of them
How quickly he farms on shouldn't know about the xp as well. Oh, and now he also three
He also now has the 15 talent from the bounty that could potentially be thrown on him
You get the damage reduction, the 30% damage reduction.
Yeah, you're not killing the Zyra.
Unless he's left completely on his own,
the situation only when he was in the triangle,
they weren't really set up around him.
They could kill him then.
Killing him in a team fight.
Looks to be impossible for Liquid,
but Liquid, they're ready to try the impossible.
It's double BKB timings.
They're going to try.
At this depth assist.
Let's see what they can connect with.
C-Saxx, sir.
Yes, sir.
another kill for Watson another teamfight in the bag for Yandex as they
continue to very much enjoy this game too and cheer up probably enjoying things
too he's a guys I got the big slug they moved the ember and I'm still owning
Sichuan 11 has the big slur as Dax has all the timings is completely
reducing anything they could want to do and this is huge right going forward in competition
very much sends a message if you pick ember you have to ban the slug
You're not gonna be able to land the ember against it and by the looks of it
You're certainly not gonna be able to make a lane switch up and try and run the ember safe. Okay
Like a caught here shadow walk started
Way down they don't start to break it down
In Satanic ready to press the other loners are not these zooms alive so far
Chirra in position to protect him.
Chirra my shot!
Okay, I guess he's not going to do it.
I thought he was going to get it, but he feels like he doesn't need it.
He just wants to go for his own items this game.
Feels like Watson doesn't need that protection.
This crazy network of desire.
We knew how insane this hero was going to be coming into this tournament.
Some of these players are truly showing how strong it is.
Yeah, getting it picked up as a second pick as well out of the box.
It was.
I didn't think that they were going to get it again.
Especially because they have this flexibility.
We saw a game one from Chira and then game two on Watson.
And Watson up out to 25.
He can go for the attack, tend to target this game.
So he's got the Swarovic with this build.
Yeah, absolutely.
Here we go.
This damage is gonna be absolutely ridiculous
with him and Chira hitting targets.
And for Liquid,
I mean, it's gotta be some type of like 5J burst.
What is the comeback?
I just, they don't really have physical damage as the issue.
Their damage comes quite slowly versus Isla.
with this point of how far behind they truly are.
They need to just somehow miraculously win a teamfight
to get some type of bold back coming their way.
But it would be pretty miraculous if they could
bother to catch again.
Very dead.
Doesn't even bother bothering to pop in the BKB there.
I'm sure you'll be able to find Boxer here on the way down.
The DM just walks through them, the core is really too long to level on the side of
the Andex at this point.
Sure you can get down these supports time and sometimes we got about I think you had a track off to you
So did get that extra both of team
Roche can look the back up for that one soon
Just not a I'm trying to think of that it's just not there's no timings
It's all the timings for liquid are just shot. There's not any big games
They have these next two moments. They got a Kaia on the Embers there
That's not gonna change much of anything the win ranger to I mean
the Daedalus. Maybe if they weren't so far behind could have a bit of a more of a difference
maker but there's just so much the Yandex has at this point to deal with it.
People have to close it out now in these next few moments with this Aegis. Full MKB for
Watson. Not nice. They're looking ready to put an end to this
theories. Smoke up here around the Aegis ready to run a straight out liquid. No BKB
He's still for MK2 for 20 seconds so free catch if they do see him.
how much more of this they want to take on like this.
This is Dr. Herb Big Time.
What an approach for the Adnecks.
Coming off of that last game, with the momentum into this one,
Sasha leading the charge in the first 10 minutes,
but the rest of the team, leaving it afterwards,
Sharon Watson having a beautiful game this time.
All three quarters have a pretty flawless performance this time around for the Adnecks.
It's time to close it out.
Some of the Adnecks, they're not going anywhere now.
They're inside the base.
very hard fought game one.
It's simply rewarded them with quite a smooth victory
to the finish to be here in game two.
35 pair head, 35 minutes in.
Yandex looking very, very cool in this game two.
They have the clutch factor in game one.
This game they don't need the clutch factor as much.
They're just running through it.
Two racks is claimed to be good.
Will still hang on, but it's surely just hanging on
at this point.
Nearly 900 gpm for the IO, they're gonna smoke out, look for a last hurrah.
There is no rabbits available, they've got their PKBs and they're gonna try something, but
let's see if they can kill a Coro.
So if they turn this it will be even more impressive than the Mega 3 comeback
in the following game on the ground. This gas it would be.
Let's see what they can do.
Smoking up, ready to give it their potentially final shot here in game 2.
I mean this would be the biggest comeback of all time
Be honest with you
36k 35 minutes with this type of draft with this type of things. Yeah, just it's tough to see how they can kill a glory to this point
Yeah next
Ready to close it up bossy that we got side for some vision
They're all getting tracked up. Soxer did find a place to put a sneaky ward in the base again, Owen, so they have full information of Liquid as well.
Hasn't been put anywhere. I mean, they just have to be expected to see that win probability in this game.
I'm gonna put the PKB there just to get out. There was none of the slack alone that was threatening it.
Very much feeling that 100 is 0.
Might even be higher than that.
I'm gonna cook the Edward.
That's clean execution, truly.
Overwhelming Blake DM treating himself to a luxury item as well.
They could suffer a little bit more if this game feels like...
25s.
One minute left on the Aegis.
The insane thing, too, is that Watson still has quite a bit to grow.
But he's level 26, he can still eat the agonies, get the fatalists, replace the thombs.
Still has ways that he can just continue to get even bigger versus this,
as he's doubling the net worth of the cores on the side of Liquid.
Truly super impressive here.
And yeah, just showing.
This Emberside may need another work versus us.
And finally has a jump forward and traffic.
The base rampage is there, they get the jump straight away on the whole jump, and I say it's real cool.
Foxy's separate apart if you're right, but some chairs here near the prison dead.
Our liquid and outside of the base Saksa, he's caught a fourth.
Leesh is gonna go up to the BKB TPL and make it back to the fountain.
Just barely.
Can't see how fast these buildings drop with the IO tether.
The kid's gonna TPL, he's trying to hook some of the creeps, but...
...he's sending out the rendered back.
Here we go, fight the push!
Look at that, I'm not gonna give up.
With a jump right up close, about to get ready to stop.
We'll leave both the big game, and leash it back.
He's not gonna pull this play.
Come on, the fight is over.
Maybe the fountain has left him off the cocks.
Let's see if the fountain can.
No kind of tactic, DM, he's walking this one off.
The jump is fine.
Look at yellow, half HP there, DM, he's fine.
Foxy.
Catch on set, significant, he's gonna bounce you up to kill.
He always comes outside to my counter-ception.
He's gonna get several of these, the corner braids come down, boys save him.
The confusion of depth for 7 seconds, Ian continues to hold them, just stuck inside the fountain.
They'll finally tell us they've had enough.
Jesus Christ, we have to stop this game too.
And would that take of the series 2-0?
Nothing they could have done about that.
But absolutely, I'm saying it in a quick way.
I think it's one of the things that Brad really takes into this game about this week.
I mean, just completely out-drafted and completely outplayed on both fronts here.
called 100% outclass, outplayed in every possible way,
and said it was up to Nisha in this game
to shut down the smart, kind of make the space happen,
but it didn't happen at all.
The smart came out of the lane.
Sure, he was behind, but very quickly caught up.
Socks are finding all these couriers,
setting up for all this information.
It was a dream for Yandex this game, truly.
They got to play versus a side lane ember
here on the main stage.
Yeah, and something that it has worked out.
It has, but I feel over kind of all the patches
And the games that we see of Dota 2 over the years, it's just never really been something
that's real life, of course, and it's definitely not.
It was a big risk.
Aristophe felt forced to go through a course here in this situation, not wanting to put it against the Slark,
but definitely things to be learned here, I think, from Liquid in this game too,
and I think from a lot of other teams watching, that maybe we're also considering this as an option
against the team like Yandex, that Cam runs such a safe Slark mid from Jiro Junior.
be sort of my limits. And maybe in some scenarios too. Maybe it's not this end-all
PO hero for most teams but socks a bounty hunter. It does so much. It does way too much. He really
devastated that early game for them. Yuki said it was five or six couriers. I can't even remember
about it. The six minute mark truly set them up for success in just a snowball this game.
Yeah. Liquid I'm sure they're gonna be able to pick themselves up in the bracket.
You know this game too is definitely gonna hit them pretty hard but some pretty clear things
that they can sort of step away from this one and say alright we know what it
not do we know what it change and their high is still very high we saw in the
group stage coming into this they look strong but they're gonna have to pick
themselves up from quite a hard here here from Yandex Yandex 2-0 moving on in
the upper bracket knocking Liquid down we're gonna be able to head over to stage
Give some words for Melody.
Melody everyone is very excited in the arena after that game number one. Game number two not quite as exciting, but what was that game one experience like for you?
I don't know about the first game, but we played it very bad. But somehow Liquid even played even worse than us. I hope you guys are entertained.
We're still in a bad shape. We still need to be a little bit worse.
Both of us are not very good at fighting.
But I hope that the viewers will be happy to see that.
We are very entertained, Malady, especially after that series, but that's not what we were expecting from your team, because we saw you guys during the group stage, it was a little shaky, and this match was a rematch, you guys turned it around. What did you do in the time off between group stage and playoffs?
We were playing scrims non-stop. We were playing pubs as well. We were having sim talk. And we tried to fix our mistakes.
My last question, Malady, you've been playing competitive Dota since 2019, but now this is your very first TI.
What is the experience like? All these people watching you across the world right now, excited for the plays that you made.
The plays that you made, how is it finally living up to your expectations?
I feel very excited. I really appreciate every last moment of this TI.
This has been my dream, my whole life.
And thank you, China. Thank you for this crowd.
I really love and enjoy this.
I am very excited.
I feel like I have entered here.
I feel that every time we play TI, it's my dream.
It's what I've been pursuing for my whole life.
I feel that the audience here is really great.
I thank China and the fans here.
Thank you.
the game. We're going to go
back to the game. Whatever
entertainment it felt. We were
lacking in game number two.
Malady made sure we got it in
that interview there and yeah,
the shop that does have there
is so bright. Not a lot of
expect another people expect
malady to be a debut on when
it comes to T. I to walk out
on the stage to have a
showing in a game one like
that to be able to close it
take into the TI stage, to the TI main stage before.
Yeah, I'm so happy for him.
I'm so happy that he's gotten to play this TI
and that they've been doing so well
that he's able to show what he's really made of.
A player that was grinding in pubs and tier two teams
for a long time before he actually made it
onto the scene that makes tournaments
that gets to compete at these huge lands.
And you can hear the emotion in his voice.
He's a pretty, pretty sort of stable, stoic guy.
You're making a lot of emotion from out of him.
So hearing that in his voice there,
I'm just really happy for him.
And I'm really proud of them for how they played
in this game because this is an immaculate
incredible impressive game. Yeah, it's just extra reaffirmation what this tournament means to the teams what it means to the players they can play and win all year but nothing is like competing at TI and lifting the ages and it's just such an incredible thing to see someone as cool as a cucumber as
look at that emotional not excited and even in the series his hoodwink was very stable
He did make a joke about that game one being which team played worse
But he had a lot of key moments there that enabled them to win in St.
East guys
unbelievably based
He's like
He's honestly one of the funniest people to have interviews with because he always I think he genuinely just says exactly what he feels
Yeah, because I think like after a game one like that a lot of pro players will draw that conclusion yours
It's amazing to watch
But as a pro player game 2 is what you want to play for this is what every game you're this what you're trying to set up
Yeah, and after game 1 you feel like we play like
garbage garbage and then he's like even more garbage, you know
Like I think that is like exactly how he feels and he just says it which is like really refreshing and really cool
It's great to hear we like someone that's able to be so candid with us to show that honesty as well
But yeah, game number two was it didn't feel as impactful with the ending of the craziness of game number one
You have to give props to Yandex
We didn't think that this walk would necessarily have the impact as early as he did
Considering how much liquid adjusted in that drop to ensure that they had that better mid to mid matchup against him
I think a lot of that is attributed to
DM on tight hunter having a free lane which then frees up socks on the bounty hunter to just eat that early game
He was moving around. He was being a nuisance and while Nisha's win ranger was dominating CJ on that mid lane
Sox was sniping his couriers. He was taking his ruins
He was being a pest wherever he could be and that was a little push
He needed on CJ to come back from my leading stage
Yeah, it's also very much a game for liquid where you're not okay sitting around and trading farm because there is a timing coming
On the pipeline that you cannot stop and we saw at this game, right?
The annex is kind of chilling for 10 minutes sox snipping couriers
And then at some point the ax is online is go go go go go and you have to recognize that that it's not a game
Where you consider on and find some way to speed the game, but it just very hard off of the draft
I think yeah next
Change things very well from the first game and and altered stuff because this game was yeah
It was it was night and day I feel like in the first game that could design the draft that was meant to beat with
IO it was meant to beat IO and
Yeah, okay crazy
It goes insane.
And like, wait, people actually don't realize how much this affects your game,
but when you're playing lanes in high level Dota, being able to fairy regen to yourself is everything.
Like side lanes don't work unless you're able to fairy regen.
If Dota went back to only having one courier, side lanes would not be the same.
People would not be picking these heroes, they would not be playing these matchups.
So that is actually an incredibly impactful stat.
It's not even just necessarily the laning phase that gets ulted with couriers getting killed,
is getting killed, but it's item timings of their cause that get delayed when the courier dies.
It's also wards being ferried out for their supports. That happened a number of times that would see
Tofu's courier die, Buxy's courier die. Wards gone. That's it. Your observers and your sentries,
they're all limited numbers. They're on a timer and you don't get them until your courier
respawns. That really sucks when you're coming up against a bounty hunter that
thrives when you're not having any vision. Yeah, that's a fantastic point because they
They were getting out GPM and they felt the pressure of that IO and how early he got his eggs. But on top of that, they were losing in vision, not just a bounty hunter and Slark being natural vision heroes and Slark being able to do our throughout the game, but not being able to combat it in any capacity.
If bounty hunters running free on the map and you can't play centuries and try to counterplay, it's just a very slow losing battle.
And on top of all of that, there's the mental factor. I think of having your chicken sniped is that you
Some of them are chickens it sort of breaks the the normal formation of a Dota game
You're bringing items out and there's you know things happening forward in a forward direction toward the enemy
But now there's stuff like in your base and you're turning around all the time like where is he?
I can't find him and this it really messes with your head. I think it can make you lose focus of what the actual goal is
I think it also ties back to the draft
I think we have to touch on it because I think in game one liquid is such a good job of creating like this
Anti-whisted draft and then in game two they try to like we're trying to create like a draft where they're just wet
Like we do our own thing again because we could do it in game one
But the way they did it just did not work like this why weren't it the bounty hunter could not respond at all
I feel like it didn't
It didn't address it and it's a it was a big problem for them. I don't have so much space
I think something else though is just so pivotal in that that you're talking about when it comes to draft is yeah
game one. Liquid had more answers. This time around, they were so reactionary. We ended up seeing
a MiKei and Bispirid, and whilst it was really hot to see in the draft, it wasn't so hot when we
got to see it play out, and Pujit's going to pinpoint exactly all the reasons why he didn't
live up to some of the MiKei hot we've been having. Thank you, Nat. Yeah, the lane swap
that they did was very, very necessary in this game, but there's some negatives to it
that a lot of players have experienced before. You need your mid hero to ideally
not get stomped on his lane, which they would have if Ember was mid, but you also
need to make things happen on the map. And Windranger isn't the easiest hero to gank with,
so that's one of the downsides that they had to deal with. And on top of that, farm speed is also
a really relevant thing. This affected Mickey a lot with his Ember Spirit here. He's basically
using his third skill to do AWE damage on the creep wave, and he's instantly using his ulti
to jump through a neutral ramp. So he's farming at max efficiency that he can get at,
but until he gets another item, he's just simply not going to farm as fast as other
carries, even though he's doing a good job here. At the same moment that he's farming
like this, watch how Iowa is farming on the other side of the map. He's got a helm of the
dominator, he's got a spirits maxed out. The difference is that his farming skill, spirits,
are going constantly and the AOE is bigger, much bigger. So between the spirits and his helm of
the dominator, he is clearing creep waves and neutral camps and stacking them and clearing
them again at a much, much bigger speed. So he's getting more farm faster, which means that
no matter what, he's going to have more net worth. And the other downside is based on the
rest of the lineup with bounty hunter roaming the map, they've got better kill potential.
This is one of the downsides to the Ember spirit being
In the safe lane he can't go get things done because he's getting less levels
He was splitting his experience and he wasn't as much of a pressure on the map
So he's just now at 15 minutes just about finishing radiance where his farm feed will go up
But right before that happens a great gank by Yandex
So he's just behind if we take a look at the net worth here this this experiment just was okay
He's sitting all right north but at some point he is going to get out far by his opponents and definitely out team
Fault when the tracks come into play
Thank you so much. It is just one of those things where you would love to see an experiment
of a response to what was a Salah Khmer to work out. But at the end of the day, this
ember can only do so much when it's coming up against the tide. When it's coming up,
a Yandex that finally fills full form of the Yandex that we've expected throughout
the year. But we're going to move our attention towards what is going to be our final
series today because we still have two more teams and our top eight that we haven't
had a chance to look at or really talk about. It's Falcons off against Nygma Galaxy and what
a clash this is. It's so interesting knowing some of the behind the scenes, the interactions.
I know Mar is so much respect for the side of Nygma Galaxy, but also just a roster that
no one knew what to expect coming into TI, coming into TI qualifiers because that's
how Nygma Galaxy had to get here. Yeah, I think Samel is such a TI darling with
his story of winning his first ever TI being my youngest player to ever win a TI, that every
time he makes it to the playoffs or the main stage at TI, it's something to watch. This
player inspires so much optimism and awe at his skill that you can't help but root for
him.
I feel like he is that TI guy. I think every single TI he performs like nothing you've
ever seen before. I think his first TI with EG obviously, but even like moving forward,
like his tiny performances during like KIA 8 or 9,
I can't remember which one it was,
just like absolutely pops off when he gets to the main stage.
And I know he loves playing in front of a crowd.
I've heard him talk about this like,
so like that is the one thing he loves the most about Dota.
He doesn't really enjoy playing pubs.
He doesn't really enjoyed the grind,
but he loves being in front of a crowd.
I mean, this is his evolution as a player.
You come in at TI 5 in 2015, you win it.
We've seen display off the display for himself
until we saw him at TI 10 coming in as a carry,
7th, 8th, then he misses out on three TIs. But finally, he's sitting back into that
carry roll. That's the big thing that people who, you know, might not be aware of
what name his trajectory is, is we've seen a Rolls-Royce from Somalia yet again.
Yeah, he shifted and changed a lot as a player over time. I think in the
beginning he was very much, I don't talk, I play mid, I do what I want,
stay away from me, don't talk to me, I'm the boss. And I think he's become
much more sacrificial and much a player that's much more for the team and is
willing to do things to highlight others. And I think he is highlighting
other players in this team right he's playing a role that's not the star of the show right people
think of the star role they think of mid oftentimes he's passed away from that set okay i'll give that
on to another player i'm a more seasoned veteran at this point and he's he's helping other people
it's carry where mid laners go to retire when not for me maybe for others i mean yeah we're
going to stand in in lauren off for the side of nick mcgalaxy it's just insane to think that
we have a long running lineup like falcons three years together up against a roster like nick
like the galaxy only two months, two weeks before TIQ qualifiers, they were formed.
But both of them taking to the stage seeing who's going to come out on top.
The best war is their group stage record and they have a dominance no one expected to be
able to make it into the main stage with a roster as young as two and a half months.
It really begs the question are they able to keep that going for themselves or can
a veteran falcons break that streak?
I'm going to be the one that
walks away from even this
best of three happy if it's the
best they get.
In these players, they have
made it further than any other
defending TI champs have in the
last four years. They've already
achieved so much, but is it
enough for themselves? Are
they satisfied? Is this five
men the longest we've ever
in the first half of the
season. And these players are
in it to win it like when you
when you look at that this
team, there are so many ages
like on each player, of course
from the win last year, but
even before that from Tundra's
win, where's man Skeeter got a
Ali their coach is a three
time TI winner twice as a
coach one time as a player.
They're not here to just say,
Oh, we've done well. You know,
we've made it very far.
They're here to win again
and break records. I feel
like it's winter last if
players. They want to be the
best players in the world. They
want to be the best players in
the world. They want to be the
third, fourth, whatever eight.
It's all the same. It's first
or last. That's it. Yeah, they've
all been to so many TIs. They've
experienced every result
between all of them, right? These
are very veteran players, one of
the most veteran teams. I think
when you look at the total of
them, and so they've
experienced everything there
is the experience, but you
don't want the walk. They
want the shield again. They
want to be the two time
again. I think you see that
in these players. They want
first. They don't care about
some other stuff. They've
experienced everything there is.
I would agree with that
that they were winning everything
in a year that felt shaky for
them. They got first and now I
wonder this year is sort of
emulating what happened last
year where we weren't really
sure of Falcon's form. We weren't
really sure if there was going
to be those heroes for them
that strength and that
confidence in their players to
be able to go on and achieve
Victor. I mean, I think for
them. They really have had the
whole. All of your heroes from
last year or nerf. You have
not none of your heroes that
you want to have with are
available. So I mean, I think
with are available to stop from scratch. Yeah, and they're like notoriously not a team that does that, right?
They play their own stuff. So I think they're presented with one of the biggest challenges here at TI, which is
Find a new way to do it. And like, I think we talked about it before, but Skeeter won TI twice and he played Medusa in both winning games.
So like, they don't have like that, you know, I don't think other than that team.
Yeah, it's it's tough. It's tough to change your play style when you're especially when you're built in a very specific way.
I think they're a team that is characterized by structure. They like doing the same way
They like team fighting the same way to picking the same heroes and building something very solid
They can run back over and over again because it's just fundamentally sound
They have great ideas from aoi who is honestly just the goat of coaching in this game is so incredibly accomplished and intelligent
We talked this guy. He just oozes Dota and so I think this falcons team is they've built on that
But they're a little bit of salt in the wind in sania when snay won ti last year
And he took your record of being the oldest player to win ti
I actually when I won I thought that's not going to get broken for a while. No way
I did think that I'm like I'm gonna keep this for a while. Yeah, and then you
did it like the next year. Yeah, you had less than 12 months. I was cheering for
all the hard enough. I was a big on the fan in that final. What is that? What
about yourself? Mira seeing these Falcons again already taking those steps
that defending champions haven't really been able to take to themselves in the
lost a few years of FTI?
It's very cool to watch happen, if it does, because they've already broken records in so
many different ways.
I think at some point, they were the most dominant team in Dota history ever in terms
of their first places in one year.
Maybe there was a contention there with Game and Gladiators at some point.
We went off the panel, which era was better?
That's probably good.
But if they were able to do it one more year, I would be in so much awe.
But I'm very curious about a dynamic that's happening here is that at EWC one month ago,
both of these teams, Falcons and Nigma, topped their group.
Nigma let like nine and one, and I believe Falcons went eight and two in their respective
group and then there was a five day break for both of these teams before they played
again.
And they got eliminated.
They bombed out.
And I do wonder what the effect of a break this long is going to look like because
it seems like these teams like to get the ball rolling and they like to consistently
it's a tricky dynamic for
sure. Um I think they've all
experienced it because you
know, a couple of the TIs in
recent years have had bigger
breaks. So I think in some ways
it's a skill you've had to
build like it is just an aspect
of tournaments. It's not you
play every day anymore. And so
I think for them, if they
feel like they're weaker doing
that to me, that's just a.
An oversight as a player or a
team that I think you need to
because you need to be able
to scrim and practice on
those down days and to keep
the momentum rolling feel like
and to keep the momentum rolling feel the energy still because they're just will be great. It's how Dota works these days.
It brings back the question of what's behind the curtain, right?
We've only gotten a limited amount of sample size from Nigma Galaxy with this modified Swiss bracket.
They were four in one. They didn't have to worry about going into the elimination round or anything like that.
And these are some of the other
what records that we're talking about for Falcons. No five-man roster had some three TI appearances together with no roster changes.
in between. They've had some stand-ins, they'll amiss with the Lornav and Sumail as well, but to
have no legitimate roster changes for themselves and 3 TI appearances. It's honestly incredibly
impressive. I mean, I had a long run playing with the same guys like me, Mick and Boxer were
together for years and years and something that happens and I think people can relate to it
and their relationships were like, you just start getting annoyed about small stuff that
like, bickering, I think we call it, what is it called? Bickering. Yeah, and you start
bickering about like random stuff that really doesn't matter and you get on each other's nerves and you you've seen
You know like you probably see like these guys have seen snaking run and die in the stupid way
I promise you a 47 million. I was thinking huh? I just took him as an example and
Yeah, it's just you've seen it so many times that you can't help but like get annoyed by it
And to be able to get past that and still show up and still be such a strong team as they've been throughout these three years
I find to be incredibly respectful. Yeah, it's it's actually amazing
the game. You know, it's a
very emotional game. You
spend a lot of time with these
players. More time than you do
with anyone else, friends,
family, the like you spend so
much time together and to be
able to put all that aside,
all the little frustrations
that you build up with people
any any person over time and
say that we're going to build
on this thing together. We're
going to push towards a goal
and do that for three years
on end longer than anyone
else. I think is. It's
incredibly impressive. Like
it's hard to even state how
awesome this is to watch as
someone who also played in a
team with a lot of
someone who also played with people for a long time.
Like there is a very, you're bound together
when you play this game, it's hard,
it sucks a lot of the time,
but you do it anyway because you want the goal,
you want that aegis in your hands.
And so I have so much respect for these guys.
And that love and pride that you talked about it,
we started that tweet that was brought up a minute ago.
Amar just tweets the accomplishments of his own team.
He just brags wherever he can.
And I know that a lot of people clout on him for it,
but I actually think it's a very beautiful thing
to take pride in what it is that you do,
feel confident in that because it is confidence that carries you through TI. It is the ability
to cooperate and be prideful in the situation that you're in and know that you can always
do better because it was Amar's confidence last TI that allowed them to do some pretty
crazy things like pick Ursa offline in an elimination game.
Yeah, and he's a star player of this team for a reason. I think a lot of people see
his pups shenanigans and all chatting and all this. But when you talk to the other
people on his team, you talk to people to know him. He is an amazing teammate.
He works hard. He watches replays. He accepts blame and he lifts other people up and is a confidence inducing player and you want that you want someone who comes to main stage.
He's going to lift other people up and say, guys, we got this and people are going to believe it. It's not fake. It's not something you're just saying. He means it and you can tell that he means it.
I do think that that is a clear difference as well. Amar is someone that can bring up other players that can instill confidence in other players.
But Amar isn't a player that you can instill confidence in for himself. He needs to have it, right? He is that player that when he believes in himself, everything will work.
everything will work. If it doesn't, it's hard to change up for himself. And I'm hoping
when we see him tweet things like that, when he celebrates the small things that maybe
people don't necessarily praise as much, that is that little bit of ego showing through
a bit more showing that we are that team that will do what no one else has been able
to.
Yeah, I mean, I personally can't think of any time I've interacted with him where
he has not been confident. I'm sure it exists, right? But he's not going to show
his competitors. And he's not going to show the people that he plays against.
You always feel like this guy is going to be one of the hardest matchups I have
I think in recent years there are very few players that have reached the mechanical skill peak that he has
Yeah, I think when you talk to pro players and you like really look at the details in this gameplay
You can tell how sharp it is. It's a level that is I think there is no other offlaner that competes with it right now
And not really thought the last couple years. I'm not being the linchpin for Falcons in their offlane
to male having only recently moved and I know he has done it in his career before but only recently two weeks before
TDI qualifies moved to the carry role. How does he stand the test against someone who is comfortable in his role?
Being someone and a player that has flip-flop here and there had mixed performances
And we ourselves don't know what is going to show up on the day
I feel like when it comes to confidence battle like you could not
You could not pick two better people.
Because two male, no matter how good the program is,
no, that ego meter would break.
It's immuable, unstoppable force, I feel.
Genuinely is.
And this guy, he moved to Kerry recently,
and we actually had the pleasure of talking to him
on our podcast, where he mentioned,
he thinks Kerry is the easiest role.
And he could play on any top team,
and he could not play Kerry, and he would just cook anyway.
He believes that that's the level of confidence
that he moves into a new role.
that is the kind of confidence that you need, even if it borders on delusions sometimes.
That's what the best players in the world at any esport or any esport house is,
faith in themselves, regardless of what the results may be and the ability to keep trying.
It's funny because I remember watching his evolution as a carry, even through the last
month where there was a situation where Nigma, Adi Delisi had a PL picked against them and
they had BlastPak and they just didn't really have anything that they could pick outside of potentially Sven.
And then all of a sudden it's a carry invoker. And it looked awful, but the fact that you can call for a carry invoker
and give it a try anyway and have your ideas come through into the carry roll from the mid,
I think is an asset for teams we saw it in the past with Liquid when Mikkei switched
to carry from mid and how that affected his hero pool.
Yeah, he's always got some tricks up his sleeve. Sumela's idea, it's just such a fun player to watch.
I think the parallel of him and Amar is so true like they are I don't know Amar is like the new generation of Sumail in a
Lot of ways the confidence
I think is the the most similar thing and I don't know if there's ever been a player quite like Sumail besides Amar in terms of
That confidence. I was walking by Amar and lunch today. I said hello and he said I will first pick necrophos and I said
All right, brother you do you
You love me they're just putting everything out of that they possibly can't move
We should also acknowledge the fact that when Sumail has moved to carry
It leaves a void in the lineup of negative a galaxy
I know he had departed the team prior to that but to welcome him back in a new role
You have to have the question of is the person who's replacing him in mid living up to those standards
Lauren off takes that role and I could very happily say that is someone who lives up to expectations
Who will follow very easily and fill those shoes of smell in it?
Yeah, Lauren off is one of those star players that never really got on a star-studded team
And it felt like that's been his position for a while now
We've called him a mercenary.
We've talked about his mercenary buffs because every time he joins a team,
whether it's as a stand-in or for the first few months,
you can really feel his impact on his teammates because they're overachieving.
He's playing incredibly and their ideas shift for that time.
And then after a while, it kind of just stagnates a little and then we
don't hear from Lorna for a while.
I wonder if this will be the case here, but as we can see,
his results as a stand-in are pretty ridiculous.
Yeah, there's a lot of stalking sabotage there.
I saw that he knew it was
coming. He's like, I gotta
I gotta keep him low because
I'm going to keep them at TI.
But with Aurora, his history
is a stand-in. Getting up
first and the second is pretty
sorry. And you're a self
queen very quickly. You've
also stood in for Falcons.
Do you feel like Lauren
Oves walked away with much
info on them for today's
matchup? Possibly so. They're
not a team that keeps close
to the chest. They're
honest. They're open. And
I mean, I think they're
ready. They're both ready
to play here. It feels like
a familiar matchup despite the
fact we haven't actually seen
these two teams come up
against each other very often.
Whether you want to coin in as an ego battle, whether it's a draft battle, all I know is
we're in stealth, one of the best, best of threes here for our first day of TI 15.
Ligma Galaxy versus Team Falcons, game one.
We've already had two of our lowest seeded teams come into today and create those upsets.
If you're looking at this matchup, maybe you're wondering which team I'm referring to here.
Falcons come in as the lowest seed up against a dominant group stage, Nigma Galaxy, who
went 4-1.
And so I wonder, is that group stage performance going to be another one that Nigma fans are
unfortunate to put their copium into, or is it going to be this display of consistency?
I feel like they've, like, Lornoff has genuinely revolutionized this team.
I think this team has been stuck in the same sort of patterns that won TI7.
It's crazy to think that, but they kind of follow that kind of playstyle of high tempo.
We're going to try to pressure the map.
We're going to overwhelm our opponents with moves, which just hasn't really worked.
And I feel like ever since Lornaff has stepped into this team,
they've become a lot more of a macro team.
They're playing a lot more for their farm.
They're playing more for scaling.
They're kind of stabilizing their game a lot more.
And I think this idea of Ligma as a chaotic team that tries to run around as five
and create all these moves, it's gone.
They are not that team anymore.
Yeah, and that's further amplified by a lot of the really close games they had during group stage.
They played for very long, a lot of their battles were gruesome,
and they made some really big comebacks, too, against Team Spirit in particular.
Both of those games were a hard spot and not easy, and that's not the Nigma of Ult.
The Nigma of Ult was the one with the lead growing it away.
Yeah, I think this team needed someone with strong resolve,
because I think Nigma's a team that's very easy to get roped into whatever one else is saying.
Go go go go go go and you go too and you get rushed into that and Lorna says no
I'm farming my camps. I'm getting my gold and I think in a lot of ways
He's the true carry of this team. So may I was playing mid from the sideline and Lorna was playing carry
He's getting the gold
He is he's being the rock that they need because they go crazy a little bit and they've got someone to come back
To who's still got high network the game is still okay. We're still solid
That's absolutely the case because if you look at snow's here pull
He's been thriving on stun heroes and set up heroes and it works because Lornaff is so greedy and divide as well from the awfully
You can just put him on a last pick timbersaw or something like that and he can put the game on his back
Well, we're not looking at last picks just yet
We're looking towards what has been the opening phase for the thousands of Nigma Galaxy
Falcons with the first pick go for the center there
It was completely ignored enough for the series despite being a hot commodity in the group stages
And then we got to go for the new trend that nature's profit that has definitely shown what it's capable of as a hero today
I think Falcons have this idea that they don't need to ban Lena if they first pick Centaur because they're just gonna play it on
Mid if Lena gets thrown mid and he's just gonna skill retaliate in front and it's not gonna matter and I've seen
Mid Centaur look kind of pouring and underwhelming but for Falcons it makes sense
conceptually they want the offering to mid flexes that's always been their style.
I also feel like we talk about like collapse for team spirit being the best guide by a blink and
stunning people. I feel like Malvine is like I'm from there. Yeah. Give him a strength hero that's
tanky and he can just blink and stun someone and be able to like create these moves. He will do it.
Yeah no 100%. It's an incredibly hard balance to strike and I think he hits it. He's somehow
farmed but also is everywhere stunning you. I don't think anyone has ever done it like him
maybe I think back to S4 or something, but not since S4, can I think of another mid that has played tempo in the pure essence of the way Malorin does it.
The interest profit I think is interesting response to Centaur in that in a lot of ways Stampede is very good against interest profit because you just run at this guy.
He doesn't like people getting on him even with skate mechanisms, but at the same time these trees are very strong right now.
They do a ton of damage to heroes, so there's a world where you can beat this guy up in lane and sure he stampedes every once in a while,
every once in a while, but you can play so fast, open up the towers, while Centaur is playing this
new slower farming build with Helm of Dominator into heart. You're kind of AFK for 20 minutes.
I think it's also hero of Sumail kind of likes. It's an active carry. It's a hero that
you can get involved with, so if you want to play it on the safe lane, it allows him to
like have that pacing and the tempo that he wants to be able to set, so Lornaf can take
a little bit more of that passive macro roll on their key. Yeah, and the flex is open for
them too, because they have run it like before, and what would that be? Yeah, it's
There's definitely, definitely an option for them.
And I also like when you see the Centaur,
you pick these two fighters.
Like the fact that this hero is slow,
I think it's one of the biggest things about this hero.
The build has drastically changed.
This hero scales insanely well.
He's not some blink bot that he used to be.
He's kind of a carrier from the off lane.
And so picking two really fast heroes in response,
heroes that are low cooled out, high tempo.
I think that is conceptually what you want
against this guy because you want to speed the game up
and abuse the fact that he is,
you pick up two carries.
Also speaking of concepts,
I feel like it's important from Chantalkins,
They follow this idea of like we want to create a draft where none of our heroes die.
They always look for these very tanky heroes.
They try to find ways to play the game without dying, I think.
Like they want to have heroes that are hard to kill and you see here they're further
trying to do that.
You have the Shadow Demon that has Disruptor for a save, you have Verona which is a very
tricky support to kill.
Snaking likes to push out a lot of creep waves and he likes to be very aggressive
on the waves.
So, Verona's a great hero for that.
You can get away pretty easily.
I feel like for Nigma they're gonna have to try to break that. It's kind of a similar thing we saw in the last game with like the damage issues that they could have. I think Falcons are gonna try to break this game.
What we are waiting for Nygma Galaxy's pick by the way, I think of worthy mention is the
Dazzle's band.
More often than not, bands just fall to the wayside.
It isn't so much as an enticing or an exciting band, but this Dazzle one is because it is
so bread and butter for Nygma Galaxy in their 8-game win streak that they ended up getting
in group stage.
It's very much a GH specialty hero and the thing about GH teams is that he is
so respected by his enemies that if you look at Falcon's Bounds, there are four
of his heroes that are banned on here. It's his 5000, his 5th Vibran, his IO and his Coddle.
And they're not afraid of the potential IO flex. It is GH usually on this IO. They're
terrified of him. Even all of these years later after his TI win, he's still getting
target banned. What the heck is that?
He is built different. He's also just always ranked 20 or 30 for like 10 years. I don't
know how it's possible. And that is crazy.
an elder titan okay so elder titan when i think of this hero i love playing it it's amazing so fun
even in this patch no okay absolutely not i actually when i was reading the patch notes i was like this
hero kind of has some stuff but he just doesn't really make sense in any of the games because he
has this aura that reduces magic dammit like magic armor and amplifies essentially whatever
magic damage you deal makes it better so generally you want to run it with some sort of spirits
or some sort of heroes where like you can make that guy super strong and you want to play it
against heroes that don't have high mobility.
And in this case, I feel like it's very hard to land the stomps
and you don't really have a clear hero to amplify at the moments.
So it's a really interesting thing.
It's a GH classic though, I will add that.
It is.
It's also, like I think it's taken advantage of by this Huskar
in a lot of ways.
You've got two melee supports, both of which
are not very good at coming and killing the mid hero.
And that is what's best against Huskar.
You want stuff like Hoodlink or stuff
that scales really well, like a shadow demon who can get
axe and pick off his passive, zeroes and heal.
You want to kill this guy and offer threat on him because your mid lane is gonna have a hard time whatever it is
And you're gonna get shut down and so now they have two supports that are sort of stable and don't really do those ganks
Then there's you know the Malorin, Huskar, and he's just he's the best player this hero by it's not even close
It's unbelievable how good he is this hero compared to everyone. So let ATF hear you say that though
It's true
I think I think Amar would would hype the boy up and agree with me to think so I think so
I think you'd give him the crown. No, maybe not not with Huskar
close almost done. I mean he was meeting mid vipers with huskar like if you're winning against vipers
as a huskar player you're an elite you're the cream of the crop for sure and in this game it feels
like he's gonna have free reign to just farm like any kind of move that's made on him as
mentioned will be hard but there's also the counter play from his sd plus marana combinations.
Don't let the husker win rate fool you okay everyone this husker has been first
picked like opening draw pick many times through group stages it gives you a lot of heroes
There's a lot of potential patins you can to come up with a recipe for success against it, so the win rate, boss, yes, looking very sial?
I think you can't look at it at all. Ignore it, throw it out the window.
There's Huskar, and then there's Malgrin Huskar. It's in a tier of its own.
And I will say he has bled during this tour. He has actually lost, and I feel like I don't know the exact stats for this, but he does not lose on Huskar.
I feel like he just never loses on the hero. So I think this is a different position, right?
They get to pick it fourth, they get to see the support matchup, they get to see everything.
So it's not like he's playing it into a draft that's fully constructed to beat him.
Yeah, it's a very, very different scenario.
And I'm curious to see what they counterpick it with.
Huskar's biggest strength, as everybody knows, is ever lane against it, is his laning is disgusting.
I think there's borderline no-heroes in the entire game that can beat him in lane.
And so really, your goal is to survive. What can live through the lane?
Nature's Prophet is something that people have tried in the past to lane against Huskar.
I don't think it works.
He kind of just kills your tree super fast. And then what comes really after is he kills you. So you need something else
Lena is banned. It's one of the classic responses. Viper is the best one by far. Both of these are out
And so what does Lorna have in his pocket to actually deal with this because it's a lot harder than you'd think even when you see him
What about Sniper?
Or is it too hard to play as a versus a steamer on them? They're gonna move to kind of lane too easily
Yeah, it's not only that but it's also the centaur you're playing in Stampede so much like you
It's the perfect to be able to play sniper and I think now we would also make you even win the lane
But it is it is like one of the heroes that can land
So one of the things that's gone like hustlers got a weaker over the past year
Is that he's not as dominant of the scaler as I feel like he was back when I'll be and used to just beat everybody with it
No matter matches the scaling of the heroes gonna work
So like I think you have angles now where you can try to play some lanes to draw but have a better scaling situation
But again for me it ties back to the supports you have elder Titan who kind of wants a spirit
This hero really thrives off of amplifying a storm or an ember, or having something like that to play with, and Darkseer kind of falls into the same category.
And Huskar is just like, no, you can't do that. You can't do that against me.
So, for Nekom, I think this is a really tricky pick. You have to try to find something that makes your draft tie together.
The one game that Malorin lost to Huskar this tournament, he lost to Topps and Winteranger, so potentially they're looking at that and saying, okay, that could be decent.
You will not win the lane, but you have a good answer for them in the mid-game, right?
You press Focus Firing on the guy and you just shoot him and he can't shoot you back.
So there's a lot of... there's good dynamics there apart from the lane.
But it's tricky for Ningla because they want a melee hero to enable their dark seer.
They want, like you said, they want that spirit.
So they're being forced to grief their own draft so they can lane.
That Falcon's created a huge draft issue for them too by picking the Sven as well.
Because there's nothing for the Sven in Ningla's draft.
There's no BKB tracing disable.
It's a very strong lane against dark seer because he can just cleave through the lane
It's gonna have an incredible VQV timing where he's not threatened by anything and they're gonna be able to take every objective
So it's do you answer this one or do you answer the Huskar and Nygma said we're just gonna pick a hero
We're gonna pick a carry to carry matchup that can scale and Lauren off's just blaming us Huskar
I don't know if I can just baiting me into like
Thinking it but they're not picking who's on center or Huskar right now
Even though they know see males playing live stealer. Oh, you're right and Lauren up is picking nature's profit
I could be invaded here. No, it's very possible. This is not a bait. They're considering it. Yeah
The life stealer elder Titan will get obliterated by house car in lane
But what's the center on nature profit matchup then? Are you willing to sack it? You did it? You're good call
Wow, I think center of us willing is tough, but I think yeah, I think you'll draw the minimum
You potentially even win the lane because he's hitting you and you just retaliate and back. You're so tanky so much regent
You talked about earlier in the draft with Mallory is willing to play this year
He is sort of the stun goat from mid
This is an interesting twist and one that I think could really heavily punish Nigma early these lanes
There's a lot of potential to get run over early and when Falcons ones you over early
They tend to keep the foot on the pedal
Yeah, even though there's that scaling issue you brought up in Sanyo with house guard
Is it enough that from the off lane?
We won't necessarily hit that time and we could still see so much of what he is good at for a hero shine
I think we touched on it in the previous series when you play mid
You have to have some sort of tempo and now he can just happily click creeps forever because that's what you do on the offlane
So I think it kind of he's gonna fix the scaling issue by being given more time to just hit creeps where he doesn't have to
Tempo he doesn't have to find these moves not green is gonna do it from the center
So I I really like what falcon's cooked up
Yeah, I think well
This switch off of having the natures pop in it is good for niggler
I think that the scaling is still not good enough
even though nature's profit is going to be able to farm where he wouldn't have versus
Huskar. I still think fans are going to have free reign in this game. And the Shadow Demon
Marana are going to move very freely as well. They're going to be making a lot of moves,
getting a lot of early game kills.
So how do we see an avenue potentially for Nick McGalaxy to have a foot in the door
to be able to take advantage of a potential downfall of thousands?
I think Lornawn needs to overform in this lane. And we need the stars to align
a little bit because I think Falcons have done a really good job here and we need
some magic.
Some stars are aligning. It might not be necessarily in the drop, but someone who curated that drop is Tsunami and Kerr.
Thank you very much. Yes, I'm joined by Kuroki, where Falcons, they're throwing you a lot of curveballs.
So first they pick up a Huskar and then they say, oh, it's actually an off-lane Huskar and it's a mid-lane Centaur.
How's your team dealing with that?
We're ready for that.
Oh, really? Okay. How about just the Huskar itself? Are you ready for that?
I hope so.
So then was the idea send Lornoff mid-nature's profit and then either one we'll deal with either is the mid-huskar or the mid-center
Yeah, we're ready to match the Husker
I want to ask you about your momentum into this tournament, so
Group stage you guys did exceptional and then I think that 2-0 against Team Spirit really convinced everyone that this
Nigma roster knows what it's doing extremely well
We were here last year though and the journey ended in top 8
So I'm wondering how's your confidence levels from last year competitor this year?
I think we got top six six. You're right my bad
We're confident, but whatever comes we're just grateful to be here very happy
Yeah
Just enjoying life. Is there any extra motivation with the sumail's supposed that this might be my final ti?
Let's see if it's truly as funny
Let's see. Let's also see how this game one goes. It could look crooked.
The reigning champions team Falcons return to another TI. Here they are. They are the longest running roster in Dota history.
And here, in what could be their last tournament, they look to make history once again.
Only three TI champions have returned the next year to be able to claim a podium finish and none of them are from the modern era.
Falcons looks to change that avery the irony is they're against one of the guys who did it early on in Sumail
Ti 5 Ti 6 egs one of the last many players from a double podium finish
He knows what it takes to get there. He also knows how difficult that is
We're looking at 10 years since his first ti win in perhaps his last run
So he claimed yeah to try and get the second ring that he wants so badly
There is so much history in this match.
So many brothers who have played with each other between these squads, right?
Swill's longest running teammate is against him in this match with Crit.
ATF, he just said brothers against brothers on the stage.
He played with Big Mac Galaxy in the season before.
These guys know each other so well over so many games, so many years.
You better hope that knowledge pays off.
I love the Amar-Sumail matchup.
You know, like Amar in the game has already said, you know, this is the first time we've played on stage together.
They didn't get to do it when they were teammates, you know,
they never got that opportunity.
They didn't have that success.
But now as opponents, they do get that chance.
And two team, two, two members who have also gravitated
to the carry role at some point in time in their career.
Amar did have that stint where he was playing carry.
Said it's, it's easy to be carry.
So, very recently, as says, it really doesn't take much
to play carry in modern Vota nowadays.
Well, we're going to put that to the test.
I will say one of those tins was not like the other you know
We're not getting games
But you're you're hoping you come out on the better side of it because a lot of players have moved to that careroll
And how to be unsuccessful for them right? It's not as easy as it looks as well
It's never as easy as it looks it's male. He's trying to prove himself in a different way here on the squad that
He has fought for a long time on this game the squad has just been together for so long
I think back to how long each and karaoke have been together
You know there was a time where I remember eternal envy wanted to pick up this young pub star GH
He was a mid Magnus mid Naga player back in the day
And we said like is this guy that good and guess what Kuroki picked up instead and they once he I that year
So yeah, this guy is that damn good. He's still a man is still getting so many fans for his beautiful. It's disgusting
You can never count these guys out there always poised
Always ready to deliver and this is a new squad with some new faces
to improve themselves on the biggest stage in the world.
This is going to be a match, especially up against Falcons.
You already look at this game one draft.
There is so much meat to get through in this Falcons lineup.
So many tanky heroes.
So many 3-4K HP pool are going to come out in this game
with a moonlight shadow behind them, with a disruption behind them.
You need to be able to output damage to deal with that.
You need to get through the lane stage.
We've already seen double lane swap come out.
You put the Centaur mid, trying to get this Huskar life stealer matchup.
No, Sumaila, he's a mid player. You go mid. I'm gonna play mid-life stealer.
That's right. That's the flexibility you have right here.
All right, so
where do...
So, Nygma Galaxy wants the matchup made that they got. Yes. But,
our panel already talked about like, Huskar is not a bad matchup against Serion, right?
I think it's better for him though. I think that the side lane, you're splitting the XT.
You don't want to necessarily put the Huskar on the side lane unless you know he's gonna dominate that lane really hard.
He's not gonna dominate the Serion here.
Even EZ can do some damage against this hero with the level 2 spirit timing on the level 3.
So you do have to be a little more careful up here as falchions.
They did not want this to happen basically.
I guess the one upside is I'd say the Centaur's a better victim, lifestealer.
Lifestealer is not doing anything for you out of the mid lane.
He's just farming.
He's gonna maybe switch lanes at some point.
I guess you get a faster teamfest online.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, we have seen some of these lifestealers from the carry roll go for that early
Infest on onto a creep and make a move with it
Maybe there's some play that a light stealer can make, sneaking a little bit of trouble here, star storm
And that's gonna be a back-and-back into a first blood as Omar gets the block for a divide to line up the hit
That's super nice first blood on a dark seer extra gold gonna push you into that combo dominator
Now it's just about to say if you get levels on the dark seer
Maybe this light stealer can make some extra moves in this game
Like there's some really nice early synergy there high on shell plus surge
Suddenly, the male could just run in there, or he runs in with the creep, and the best
problem out, you get shelled, you get surged.
There's a lot more to the fight for the Slythe's Killer than just came on an island.
And you always have that theory on the Kinect on top, which, I mean, we gotta mention
at the start of the series, as Lornoff had the highest potential of any mid-player
in this event.
He has the games this guy has carried, as the greatest stand-in of all time,
and now a current member of the squad is just ridiculous.
So if he gets a 4-0-5-0 start on this period and he starts cooking, this game's gonna be
tough for him.
And it does look like Nick Magalaxy is already getting to the better of the lanes.
If you like the lane switchup, better for Nick Magalaxy, and we already see them getting
a first blood for a Darkseer and getting that extra gold in the experience, then
you gotta favor them for this early game, right?
I like the switchup.
I think they got the better of it.
Cherokee was very confident in that interview.
I don't think they were caught off guard.
I think they were well aware of this potential swap, you always need to think about the Maureen ATF flex heroes, which is based through their entire pool.
Right? Uh, these guys fold 9 records for like the most played heroes in professional Dota across their hero pool, they have the record for the most level 30 heroes.
If you're not aware of it by now, you should have been. Yeah, and this is that flex potential they always have, so I think Big Mo are ready for it, I like the lane swap.
The only downside for them is they don't get that super fast solo level theory on Automate,
which I think is a little scarier for how they like to play,
but it's perfectly fine here to play this hero in the same time.
I was about to say, a mid-life stealer, like surely Falcons are happy with a slow mid-hero
that's not going to be running over their sidelines.
If the game goes slow, it's usually Falcons' fate.
I would agree. They just want to farm off.
They want to get fat on all their heroes.
They have a lot of core potential, you know, five or six slots across all three of these,
these three meaty boys is gonna go a long way.
Yeah.
So they're not afraid of playing a slow game.
It's just a question of how much of a game the Galaxy is gonna be.
But I think that'll be the MO of this series.
I think you're gonna want to play a little faster,
get a little more done in the early games,
synergize their heroes, connect, make some moves.
All right, I was just about to praise him for getting such great CS.
19-11, Centaur's very good at doing that.
Mid lane Centaur, if I'm like,
is near impossible to stop getting great CS.
Alar is going to go for a bit of a dive here. Divy also pressures snaking, but it's just a poke.
They're not really going in for anything. Always have to think about these Ferial rotations a little later on.
Doesn't have to tell up or yet, but between that level 4 to 6 is where this lineup can really pick up.
It's your deadline. This time around, if you're being the Galaxy, it's going to change
how the rotations happen, how you use your powers. That's kind of the same for both teams.
The Synthar's not going to offer much more here other than early Stamkey.
Or not, getting low, Amar trying to get for the kill, the Shadow Poison popped, the Burning Spears but they feed him low to shh, comes out of the disruption while he's in time, but the Poison still takes him out, alongside the Burning Spears that's just too much damage over time.
Very close trade you got an early pass region shield on th as well
Should have won you this trade but the boots plus pulling on the Mars just able to get chased down any calls in
Oh, Maureen has already taken to his teammates of Mars all chat
Falcons well known for a bit of Bm young and playing sent mid. Yeah, that's actually an appropriate response
Like what are you doing playing Centaur mid?
Back in Sumail's day, he was playing 16 years old playing in Vokerman, Stormspear.
Not the flashiest hero, you know?
Yeah.
I don't know if I would ever imagine Sumail being the player he called old on the TI.
Yeah.
That makes me feel really old.
Yeah.
I don't think you're watching that.
But he does have a point.
He's one of the older players now.
Yep.
Not just when it comes to his career and how long he's been playing for them,
But he's actually, he's actually feeling the age.
That's why he's, you know, thought about retirement for this DI.
Though he has said very clearly, if he wins it, you gotta go for the third.
I can't imagine going about something like that.
So we'll keep seeing him around.
Vice, DS Leader, trying to do a little back lean.
He's not being chased by anyone.
Yeah, they do not want this to happen.
You do not want ultra-farm darts here in this game.
Who can provide some utility and boost up these other two ports.
Gotta be careful there's some portuo, got him onto disruption after the surge, that he's divine, nowhere to run
He's just gonna try and get the neutral deny, vacuums the neutral too, and strike at the tentacles
It would have been a really sick play, but crit still gets the last hit
Gotta take advantage of this fake help where they're nicking the galaxy
They're gonna try and punish them all a little bit top, but the Tiki comes through from the Centaur
Yeah, the Centaur is actually gonna go for it
Stampede running down for it, this is not what they expected whatsoever
Two men shot from Maureen to set up the kill. They killed Lornaff together.
That was a sick read from Maureen.
And this is what the panel talked about. He's arguably, you know, the best stunner, tempo creator from mid.
We've seen it in a long, long time. The stats back it up. This guy makes the most out of weird situations you just don't expect.
That is not a TP kill. You can make Alex here even think you know.
You see the supports go bottom. You think you have free reign on this top lane.
All of a sudden it's a sent car counterganking you out of mid.
Yeah, okay, you know, you gotta write that one off and just move on and what's the male's response?
He's a midlife stealer like what are you expecting it at a counter TP column old in the chat? That's about all you got
Yeah
Definitely set this very back. We're not just not having a fun time in this lane scene or is core by far
That's a pressure put on him. He's had to look at the star
It's gonna have to find a way to recover off of the team fights
Try and get this nature from Brath up as soon as possible. This is the biggest thing you can do to take the period on level.
Brath comes online later, he farms his way back a little later, you can't boost up the other lanes as quickly as you might so so much.
That's the time of the season.
Yeah, I mean, Crit is being an absolute nuisance. He's not even letting Lorna off. It's some of the vehicles behind the tower.
So annoying.
He's rushing into the grass, now you have to reach to the right to kill him with the shadow poisons.
Now, it's probably not going to be enough here, Chris.
Ooh, it was actually pretty damn close, but unable to finish the job, and Lornoff gets a much needed experience,
even as his jungling has slowed down. He is a level and a half behind Amar.
Little bit of a gap has opened up. He's also just buying a lot of space for, again,
three cores on the side of Falcons that are all farming.
Hell, the Dominator should be done here. The Sphinx bar, the Sphinx free farming bottom, and that bus car has an empty lane top.
So you're just... you're giving a lot of lane freedom here, the Falcons.
Conceitting a lot of the slain phase, and you're gonna have to make it up elsewhere.
Well, he... he's taking mid tower with an amp damage.
Yeah, he's no dragon knight, but because of the amp damage rune, he is chipping away at that mid tower, so...
I'll be really curious to see if he tries to make moves or join anything early with this mid-fielder.
Is he super awkward to do?
He can maybe make that creep-kingfest play.
Okay, imagine it goes wrong, right? You slow down your radiance, you're going to be like,
oh man, I just compounded the issue.
I think you might just want to treat it as if you're an acrobat or something.
Yeah. Like, I'm going to play my game, get a radiance, and then we can maybe start to play,
and I can bring people back to the team.
Yeah, he's giving it an empty one. It's pretty hard to turn down.
Empty so what? He fuss-rooms. Yeah, he's like, where are you at, Maury?
Right, he's his creepsmith. That's where he's at.
Yeah, bragging waves. Trying to stop these hum-a-dom creep shenanigans.
So slippery. So annoying, man.
Omar with the surge. Ion shell. Going after Omar.
That's crying to close that gap, unfortunately, doesn't quite connect.
trying to get this Hustar before the armlet comes out. Nice idea.
It'll least buy this creep for going off in the jungle and
wrap the nature online here in one creep. So you have that spell to play with now if you're
getting to...
He did not set the regen room. Finally gets hunted down by battery assault
from Omar. They killed a Helmut Dom creep. But Maureen, I mean, he farmed so many neutral
camps during that and they came to a creep wave, will now push into him or into Crit rather,
If he's collecting the experience trying to get level six would be much needed against a dark seer like
I mean, this is a very value demonic
They're not gonna put any attention to place to it. They don't threaten him. He's not their biggest priority
You want to shut down the fear on early and then if anything you I think shutting down the dark seer a little bit
Valley it up, nice little Rage Maiden.
Sumail might be able to threaten Malvin a little bit,
but he can't really stop this push that's coming in.
They have no A.B. Clear whatsoever.
Best they get is to deny, let's see if they're able to snag that one,
as the Gliff is gonna go away,
Malrin, Helmutom Creep is gonna die, they go for the Denied...
Oh, they didn't get it! What?!
They just, the Creep lasted AND the Tower lasted.
Oh, I mean, that's where you drop another old Rage Maiden.
Yeah, yeah.
Go back to the all chat here.
I was about to say, how long is GH level 7?
What on earth? Well, and Lorinoff doesn't want to lane anymore. I know but this is a ridiculously high level E.T.
He already had level 3 in the Echo Stomp plus Earthsflitter. Not a bad spell in this game.
This is kind of a nice E.T. game against effectively triple melee 4 with all these heroes going in.
Yeah, GSD is a little annoying, but there's no real hard safe for your setup.
If you can Stomp through through here with your Earthsflitter on there, it's gonna do some work.
It's also not a bad matchup against Husker.
You can kind of sleep him, set up the damage, burst flitter, kill the huge amount of pistol, and just chunk him down.
Always felt his matchup was kind of nice.
Huskar always goes deep to you too. He leaps on somebody and you stomp him onto him, it resets the fight, give a lot of counter play after that.
So, James can do a lot of work in this game, and honestly I think he is historically the best 5, because he's the best DT player in the world.
That's quite crazy, doesn't he?
Oh, sneaky move! The five minutes get the vacuum back!
Big lead, however, is Lane Parker on Mars with the hookshot.
They missed the kill.
I'd like to see Nidmuk kind of loop up for some sneaky play here.
I think at the ball rolling, especially just to bring the fury out in the game with Wrath and Atron.
Do you have a lot of these little combinations?
We need the power spear.
There it is.
He's taking away everything.
I'm on a purge, plus the fire spirit.
That's too much damage, even if he could get backed up down.
It's a lot of experience, I love what you do when you're going down. Arrow, you can try, trying to sneak in a stomp on some mail and then combo it with the arrow. It doesn't work.
I think the one thing you can make now, you have Hookshot. You can shell this clockwork, you can even infest it and just hookshot this Centaur around mid, bring the Furion in and collapse, kill this mid tower.
I don't think the Elder 2 cores from Falcons would want to respond to a move like that.
But I think you want to start to disrupt this farming a little bit, because this Sven and Huskar are barely soaking up the sides of the map.
Yeah, it's too much. It's way too much freedom.
You have some DKB-Kinbo, it's not an ultimately free Sven game.
I'm just worried about the overall accumulation here. This is how Falcons like to play.
They want to hit their mid-game timing where they're too tanky for you to deal with.
They start forcing objectives. You have to take some fight.
Maybe you don't have the same timing to match them.
The game gets really weird really quickly.
And we're seeing this ramp up considerably.
It's gonna be a really hard game fight for APF.
More tight.
More ability to lock onto the damage wall.
If they need me, they need a cap around the other melee course.
Right, he's gotta try and challenge the Furion,
but keep away from the lifestealer in fights.
I think this is what this is designed to do.
Trying to see something here, but will be caught by Omar.
Nice one shot.
Hit the cogs.
If not, it was going to guarantee the kill here.
Earth splitter goes out.
Criminage does that one as well.
If a lot occurs, they saw him down with a blood grenade.
They will finally collect the kill.
Goodness.
I mean, cogs into Stomp felt free, but it actually forced them to chase so far,
they're going to get a trade off.
Maybe even two.
And the Maher comes in, they'll go after a Maher who gets up to the high ground, cogs pushing him back, taking low, taking down, and he dies.
It's not worth it on that move, and instant TP top with the newly minted blink from Maher, and the instant he puts to use these little plays to send our team to really make a big difference in this game.
Starting to look a little concerning for Team Miguel.
game's not in a terrible state yet but you can definitely feel the the network
starting to ramp up here yeah and it's these two ones standing up this is another
issue with the period going safely and getting punished in that bus car matchup
your temple around these two ones a lot slower than you have that one doing it
where he can rotate around and the move become a lot more natural yeah mid
fury on gets level six level seven he teleports to a side lane he's the
baddest guy in the game, right?
And like nobody wants to challenge him.
A side lane Furion's like, whatever.
And like, we're the same level.
Who cares?
You just lost too much XP in that lane.
Another TP out from the game.
He'll survive that one.
Given all the information space.
We are closing in on that.
It's going to be a solid timing here.
And that presumably, Nygma Galaxy
are going to make big moves.
You got it, Nygma Galaxy.
Like there's no way they're just
going to camp out to farm more, right?
Now it has to be an infest play, either Clockwork, some surge target.
And again, look for some fighter on one of these tier 1s where the bearing collapses.
You get a team fight into that objective and start to snowball the map a little bit.
That plays working on these Dom creeps, that's for sure.
Yeah, I wonder sometimes if these Clockwork's still like,
man maybe I should put more levels and battery assault just to try and kill these helmet Dom creeps better.
Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Great!
Trying to get in front of them lands a hookshot.
Beautifully done by Lorna.
Whoopsies!
Pushing him away with the cogs allows the stampede.
Okay, nevermind.
Struck down by Lornaff with the global presence.
The fish and kill.
Spirill's recovering.
This hero will always recover
as long as he's not getting gone on.
So some early tests sent you back.
Now you get some revenge.
And the Radiance for the Light Stealer is done.
So Dinkvik Alexi can start to look for
some more aggressive moves of their own.
Assuming you're not getting jumped on.
Has instantly teleported away and it's still
to be close call 21 charges will keep him away from death might be able to make a move off that
because again you know these falcon's heroes are pretty static right now
can't afford for them to just keep soaking up all this map between the dual tools that they're
farming it's your one towers that they're taking this is our dog that's working
Oh, it stomps right as the stench jumps in!
Happy coincidence there for the Vibe of the Builds.
Oh, hard!
Fast pop-out trying to go for the fast kill here!
It's not super fast!
In fact, the War's gonna die for it!
Well worth it.
Dominating Killstreak, though.
For Samal, so he gets his Radiance,
immediately finds a big kill of 500 gold to hand.
That's exactly what you wanted.
Kill one of these Static Farmers on the sides,
like no one's gonna respond to this play.
You just gotta bring the numbers to do it.
You even got the tower to the bottom with the dark seer.
A nice little gold swing.
You know, in your way there.
The panel talked about Falcon's style,
how they want to be able to limit their deaths as much as possible,
making it as hard as possible for you to be able to kill them.
And it's not that they're trying to go completely deathless, right?
In situations like that, it just means you have to throw
so many resources to kill one of us.
And then guess what? Everybody else is farming.
They will never respond to a move like that.
They understand when they're in farm mode,
they understand when they're in fight mode,
They're always going to play the map as efficiently as possible.
We also have to be worried about these supports mopping up some of the extra waves.
They sneakily get very far in these games where nothing's happening.
Yeah, they're not going to waste their time. They're hitting creeps.
This is a team coached by A.U.A. to tell them.
They're not messing around when it comes to the farming efficiency.
We can probably see that from the gold game these last few minutes is...
No matter how much the Furion might be getting out of the map,
Sven probably outpaced again.
Marana gonna be outpacing the other two supports in the enemy side for sure
And even crit is staying ahead in net worth by a solid amount another reason to go and look for place instant smoke up
They're gonna infest the clockwork. I think this is the easiest connection to try and make here and try and open up the map
You'd really like this then office play if you still lingering the bottom lane
Yeah, they do not want to be killing staking. Yeah, and I think the only hero they have
You have to kill whoever's down here, you want it to be spent, you'll take the marauder this will open up a tier one.
Lornaught needs some of these lanes to go in a little deeper, part of the advantage of having Virion is you can create some lane pressure immediately.
It's only 0% in your 3 of the limit your efficacy.
So nice little connection.
It's glitched on the bottom tower but I think it's still dead here, Falcon's no interest in defending this.
They're closing in on Skeeter's BKB, which is ridiculous fast here.
It's a 19 minute and a half Tier 1 safe lane path, and they still have two more Tier 1s.
Like, Falcon's gotta be living kind of the dream right now.
They're not that far ahead in networks.
It kind of implies the game is...
It's gonna guarantee that they have more and more time than long.
Look at Skeeter's CS.
What is this?
Almost 320 minutes.
That is just an absolute free lane. So it's gonna be a really fast DKB. They're going hard on the other two cores by the way.
Of course, they talked about how they like their tanky boys.
They might not tank it up even more. I guess it's good you have lifestealer in this game.
Yeah, I was gonna say, can you tank up so much that it's too much for even lifestealer?
Oh, you're just adding extra feasting.
Good for Sumail. You see these arts? He's just licking his lips. Oh yeah.
My pass is getting better by the minute.
Yeah, same goes with Earth Splitter, but that is kind of where the buck stops, right?
You got two percentage-based damage dealers, so see if it takes them far enough.
5,000 extra fleet, four Falcons, and trying to sneak Roshan here, but it's going to be
red fight, Nygma Galaxy, so the fight is definitely coming.
And Falcons, are you actually going to try and stick it?
But they're going to dare Nygma Galaxy to stop them from doing this Roshan.
They're gonna try and intercept them as they smoke into play here
Smoke's gonna break on the helmet on creep. Amar is outside of the pit. They want to bite more than the roche
They know a strong guy right now really trying to bait a man. They spot GH Amar
They'll give you opportunity
They'll file a mount with the Horde and they'll push the way for the center. They're still trying to go to that kill
Samuel's looking for the Infest. Doesn't have to pop it right away
They killed the Huskar who's a jump in from Amar and then they burn off with a big wrath of nature
They actually managed to get the kill. They got baited and the thinking they could actually burst down the life
That's a really funny cosmetic, it is. Just to point that out, that's the E.T. Hustler matchup.
Before you have BKB, he just annihilates you. And after that fight, the E.T.F. instantly
switches from the heart to the BKB. He knows. You cannot play as Batchup without it. You
just get slept into trunk down. There has to be a disruption there, and if there's
not, you're just going to get obliterated. So, nice little defensive fight from Nygma.
You don't get Roche off that. I wonder if they even knew how low the Roche was.
healing up right now if they knew do you think they actually get it they're
like a third HP the Roche is just so bad at this point in the game need a little
more physical DPS between the two cores right I think they're fine with that
though you're really stabilized game you've mitigated the potential damage
the Falcon for building towards and watch yourself a lot of time here and
you also don't need as much farm on your support duo the function will
You don't need much right? You just need boots, tank up a little bit, and you're gonna have to be able to have a lot of impact in the fights.
Okay, you gotta explain that further because they got one kill. They lowered the net worth by like 2,000, but Falcons is still up 3k. Why was that such a big loop to you?
If Falcons get a kill there when that fight, they finish her shot, and this leaves gonna be 7-9k.
And you're gonna have a tough time pushing lane down or fighting another pick off, because the hearts are gonna come out, some heroes gonna have ages.
This spin is going to start running into you because the momentum feels a bit better for them.
That just felt like a-
The Falcons was so, in your mind, so favored for that fight, there was a potential of growth that would have been explosive,
but instead, MiGma managed to parry that, stop it in its tracks, and have a chance to be able to-
It was a really big kill momentum-wise in terms of Falcons progressing this game.
Now they're going to have to look for that same fight again off the back of Skeeter's bar.
Mars is going to break, trying to go for the low shot, hits the folks of the neutral.
Rock on the clock, we're driving alive!
He's actually kicked off!
The arrow stomps him!
What could have been?
That's almost a thick race escape of all time.
It really was. The pick-off does lead to Falcons going back to that Roshan pit.
Hold on, I think my galaxy...
Yeah, nice stomp. That'll slow him down just a little bit further.
God strength running out. It's only four heroes.
Hawkins can't do this, not with God strength running out.
Very hard to force the Rosh against the elder fight.
Okay.
This pick is proving it's worth in this game for sure and GHE has been on point too.
So because they stopped at the first time, now they've kind of stopped them in the second time
and now like you can't do it as Falcons. You're you're going into the time where
Roshan's going to swap to the other side. And this is all time for the Purion.
Yeah. Five thousand gold in the last five minutes. He is soaking up the lane.
A thousand GPM for Lornoff in this window of time.
They are really happy with the last five minutes or so here again this week could have filled this Roshan could have done a lot more falcons
Instead they got stymied on two moves
Not happy about that got to get the next round of items up and then try and either just force the objective straight up
Or play the map a little bit more which their lineup is
It's not the greatest of doing I think it would be a better over time the more the set
It's a little bit easier over one here, and no snipe, shard to grit, that's super nice
here you get a little cleansed actually, not the greatest cleanse game, but hey it's free.
Is anything on their side, cleanseable?
Is Scotland cleanseable?
Dispellable?
No, it's strong to spell.
I don't think it's really doing anything here.
Yeah, interesting.
I don't think that was one of the worst cleanses we've seen.
It's still such a good demonic hurt game, I don't think it's too much, especially if you make Everlane a top lane killer.
Oh, that's true.
No problem.
Gunnin' out!
Valkyries couldn't find their win on the radiant side,
Moschamble.
Find it on the other side.
It's Quad Hill.
Four Valkyries, Skeeter picks up three of them.
That's the tree for Valkyries.
You wanna jump our tankiest hero,
who does the least damage,
and set the entire fight up on a great jump
for all their two damage doings worth,
by all means.
We will happily oblige.
Take my Galaxy, they've been defeated too much there.
You're just not the target you want to run into, I'm not sure how he dies there, to be
honest, unless you just full commit, vacuum wall fury on TP aggressively, and then we're
intended to do all that.
And there's no way that's a winning team fight.
No, no, I think not, right?
You'll have nothing left to deal with Oscar, nothing left to deal with Sven.
He almost has a Daedalus, by the way.
He's so far, he's putting in work.
Yep, he'll switch back to the heart now that he got an Aegis.
got an agent now that we're winning the game yeah now that I got my Roshan okay
I'll go for the you know the bigger payoff item over the long run just
gonna tank up this build is always a little weird on Hustar cuz it doesn't
regen you should be a little awkward yeah it slows down here in DPS
you want on the low HP it can be absolutely insane especially if you
have no healing anti-healing which should meant a lot of has no anti-healing
I'm not even really sure how you build it no pros a there's no Scotty
builder. If you get darts here, you get one eventually. Probably your best option here.
That's a while. I know people really like essence distiller, but I do. Like there are moments like
this where I'm like, oh, the vessels don't sound like it's a vessel. It's so much more expensive
for a support. I think that's the biggest prohibiting factor. So now you just have to survive
this period. You're thinking, my galaxy, you need to try to scale up the fury on
and the life stealer's physical damage as much as possible.
Which is going to be rough for these two supports, because they're not the best at just casually farming the map in these down times.
You can break some smokes, you can try and shield down Falcons across the play.
The last thing you want happening here is getting picked off on your side of the map.
If Falcons get a pick off on Nygma's side of the map because of your power into the potential high ground,
you're going to lose some buildings pretty quickly at this point.
All the meanwhile, Fountains have no problem extending the game if it means that they can
just increase their chance.
They're win percent.
Bit by bit.
Gonna send our card up, get Hustar Ag, keep scaling all three of these cores for a long
time here.
get that rush, Titanic on spend.
Your support network is also just gonna grow
because you have two farming supports
versus two melee subs who don't clear waves.
That's always gonna be in your favor too.
A lot of little things working for you here
in this time period and there's yags for the centaur.
I had to rush it here, try and bail the Husker out
and take the position where they get all in.
So with so much against MiGMA Galaxy here, what's gotta happen is it possible for them to start
here?
Oh lord, well not like this, that's for sure, with your carry getting picked off just outside
your base.
In a straight 5 on 5 right now, no, I don't think it is, I think they have to do like
a fantastic vacuum wall, they just stomp her.
I guess they do have a combo if you can back 3 or 4 heroes into Sfamper, sweeter than yes.
It's doable.
I think you would prefer to be able to play the map low before you're...
But again, that was the death on your side of the map.
Yep.
This is what you could not afford in this time.
It's going to force the high ground very quickly.
You're not going to be able to reset the map fast enough.
Might have to take this fight.
Look for that straight back combo.
A large!
Straight to it!
G.H. with the instant TP back.
Very smart TP.
He saw what was coming.
It doesn't mean you should get away before stinking or breaking a stop from with the Disabled.
That's still going to be a late America, except no Fury on there, so there's no way to play.
Who's going to Fury on also Earth, because he's your big lane show.
It's just hard to find an equivalent exchange there, so in early racks 30 minutes in,
Valka's feeling very comfortable in this game one.
We've talked a lot about how older eras of Dota
It paid off so much more to be flexible to adapt.
And modern Dota has become much more about playing to your 99% of your potential.
And it does kind of feel like in some ways, Nika Galaxy feels a bit lost.
How to be able to play the map and such with the setup that they have, right?
Wiz to male, being in the mid lane, Morn off, not being able to have the experience advantage with the Nature's Prophet, the Holy Falcons.
nice blink away. It definitely feels a little off of them. It's just one of those things you're
trying to adjust to get the better lane set up, which makes sense. But how many times have you
played with this configuration? It's a risk. Everything's a risk. You have to weigh the
frozen cons. Trust your team to execute. I mean, Skeeter is high, you know what I'm saying?
He's also crazy high level of a 24 and 31 minutes
You're gonna see a level 25 at the stand up not too soon
There's a nice match up against the stereo
That'll do it
Absolutely do it. I don't know if you force high ground with the out another ages
I think technically you could hear because you have the hearts
And you have to bail out from the disruption on the Shattered even
It's just not falcon demo they're very conservative tea when it comes to pushing high ground
To choke the map out play for the next row Sean get an Aegis then choke the map out again
You know sometimes for 60 minutes and then once they're very confident
They cannot lose that high ground fight when they find the pick off they will commit for that play
It's smoke squad, all they just have to make sure to kind of sweep back and forth through the map.
Make sure that these heroes aren't out on the map farming.
Gonna live with them as much as possible.
Mark does a good job of raking this smoke, cause he can actually get away.
Unlikely, he'll shot off the mark on the neutral camp that he was hoping to get away.
Y'all like pulled out of it by Harpoon.
Yeah, I felt we had.
Not Harpoon.
That's what you want though.
You want the clockwork just breaking the moves here.
It's not farming waves anyway.
Maximale a little bit more hard.
How much does this Aggie accept for change though?
It's good in the spend matchup for sure.
Probably good in this Huskar one as well.
Being able to hop into one of these gamers dealers, they can't hit you.
You buy time for Rage to come off the cooldown again.
It's super nice.
They do have an Aggs on Huskar.
Kind of make sure they don't get the chance to infest in the first place.
You just have to find Rage to outplay them in the teamfight.
That's what you're going back to if you're doing that here.
Which is probably a big vacuum combo.
Yeah, because you have no saves.
Right if they see the opportunity to go on some mail. It's not like there's a bailout from nickname a galaxy
It's pretty much just all in on a vacuum
To a wall
Maybe a stomp really good stomp might be able to save you kind of unlikely. I saw it's fear running top off the board
That's gonna hurt. They're trying to bait someone top
Do you have to fight the fate they might actually I was thinking about it
They're pretty close to them are
He's gonna find him down here, he's gonna spot him.
Off to Dust, S-Troll breaks, he's getting full shot, lay on the long-star, up-star.
Here's Flutter, Trouble, Dustman is through, oh, we'll pull back in by the back, and where you going?
Great connection there, wanna reset those, you don't want to over-accelerate them, get her.
Looking for the opening off to Mail, managed to hit him, but he stopped the fall of Maryland, and down he goes.
Couldn't get out in time.
Stomp attempted from GH, trying to get away from the Centaur, defying, running away from the Sven,
But Crit's gonna hunt him down a double for Crit!
And yeah, Nigma Galaxy are not getting out of this unscathed.
In fact, they are getting out of it worse for wear as they trade one for three.
So hard to disengage there.
It's almost like you got that innocent TP with everybody.
I don't even know how you make that read.
Stampede doing a lot of work on the re-engage.
You always have that Earth Splittle Threat.
Again, he didn't go BKB.
The heart's not helping you against the spell.
You weren't wrong about that matchup.
We're seeing the power of the Elder Titan against this hero.
That's doing work.
It is just unfortunate that there are two, or at least one, much bigger threat.
You can only earth splitter one of these.
Yeah, if they ever catch both, though.
That is a world where that fight just don't take much weight.
Even the older behind Goldier, they have a lot of spell power.
You can never count the Elder Titan line up out.
Well, then you have the Centaur safe.
So if you get all three, okay, yeah, now we're now we're talking all right
I think the cars can do some work. It's not guaranteed. He gets a car save off the time
It's not a fast indication
Thrust and arrows support duo has an easy way to find these big goss around the map
They've been setting up a lot of quick action the gems running on the marana 2
You just play for that next row Sean spend already level 25 with the swift blink
Disgusting timings here for Skeeter. I don't know how you deal with him.
Yeah, plus 50% God Strength damage. Also, levels need more to spend than they've ever mattered, I think.
The talents are good, but also don't forget about the innate, right?
He's one of the highest strength game heroes in the game.
Get more damage.
And his innate is being buffed for every level.
So every level he's getting more strength and every level his innate is also getting stronger with that strength.
It's a lot of extra damage. People forget about it.
You can see right there an extra 117 damage.
It only takes three or four hits to evaporate these heroes.
There's no evasion.
I guess you have a little bit with the Radiance.
Did not feel like it in that last fight.
Gonna try and get a butterfly on the NK.
That helps a little bit.
Can you contest the next Roshan?
your question for the galaxy.
If there's a world you can get, you're very good with the books around the head.
Clockwork can get the vision.
You can use it to experience a great club user and you always have that vacuum.
But in theory, the Falcons don't need a club.
No, they can just stick, stick, stick one in the huskar inside
and everybody else plays the margins.
That's why it's scary.
I'm not going to work out well for him, he doesn't find any kill, but he also doesn't die either, Skeeter even flakes forward and tries to catch a little rebound.
They have aggs on the life stealer now. 5,000 gold on the Furion. See if Lornoff tries to one-shot this butterfly to give some extra surprise factor here.
here he is playing yeah either that or you save my back doing much here yeah I
think you have to spend here if you're pure honor trying to as much damage
possible how do you set up a surprise butterfly repeat like do you try and
bait Lorna like that still sounds kind of crazy no no you just keep you in the
next one there's no time to bill an MKB or anything right it's a
Slight thing. I'm not saying it turns and trying to kill Lord. Yeah, exactly. You know getting three shot on fear on like
Pray to the orange egos
That road was very quick
Nice little banner ages for the Huskar again
Let him see the high ground
Let's spend deal with the waves
We're on Aghs done too, that's the extra issues, K. The supports are just going to find so much farm.
Omar, unfortunately, drops a ward in the triangle, we're actually going to think about making some sort of...
But, snaking just happened to be there, farming up the triangle with his Jephs, who instantly kills the ward.
Now they're right back to just kind of the expected play.
This is kind of the point where Nigma would want to make a move, he just bought out big items on all three of your cores.
Yeah.
You're not going to get much stronger for another round here in another five or six minutes.
It's just over half of the stage time.
Yeah, no way that Falcons with the Aegis likely to split up a little bit.
Yeah.
That war, that aggressive board should have been an opportunity for them to make a play off of, but instead, they have no vision to play off of.
You have to be more patient here.
They're gonna take their Triangle back.
I'm not forcing the Hydra yet. Not an issue.
Taking them to sweat.
They are team that like to choke them out.
There's no reason to choke them out in this type of game.
They're not waiting for anything.
They're not necessarily getting that much stronger.
They have a massive gold lead.
In a way, they are kind of six-lotted.
Your Sven is ready to go.
You don't wait for that. You send it.
Amar, might send it straight to some mail.
Nope.
These Falcons make that critical mistake of stacking Amar and Skeeter.
Cannot clump in there.
An opportunity for it to buy.
You'd rather just put some of the items back with your gore box.
Yeah.
Especially since Amar has the Aegis, there really is no need.
They've got the save in the Centaur, they've got an extra life, and you can aggressively force them to do it.
Stop in! It's the five! And it's a catch, and they go for it! It's the same!
Post-tractor, and they have the bail-out to fight! A lot to get on spells! No hope!
Skeeter just does! Far too much right now during this VKB window.
Some male can't fight him, it's not even close.
They make a run back to the fountain.
Look at the supply max here.
They're going to need that fountain.
Oh, we got arrow!
Oh, my god, it's got arrowed on some mail!
He ran in, and an arrow intended for Ornok
instead finds the face of some mail, a dieback for him.
And the rest of Nigma Galaxy will huddle.
And they're found nothing they can do.
They could barely even stop a harm as is.
And he keeps on pushing them away.
He keeps on pushing himself away.
TOYING with DIGMA Galaxy with this jump in with his ultimate hurricane pipe.
Ah, he always gets the taunt.
He is taunting him on multiple levels here.
No chance for DIGMA Galaxy in these 5 on 5.
I might have just got on my way too quickly here.
And the lane swap shenanigans.
I don't think it looked too bad in terms of the laning,
but it definitely made this game really awkward to play.
Just keep talking and trying to get the 3 man vacuum into a stop into a wall.
Unfortunately no Earthflitter, so no real damage to follow it up.
Grown, exposed, they're gonna pop the glyph, but they're still 30 plus seconds for two more of their heroes.
They can hardly take a 5 on 5, let alone a 3 on 6.
All the way into the Mountain Goza Bar, they've finished things in style.
Mountain's an extremely dominant game one.
That's about as one side as you can hope for on the TI main stage.
They were very comfortable, very confident, they get their heroes, they get the kind of line
of thing they want to play.
They throw that lane swap at the end that forced Nygma into a tough decision, so we
play the lane straight up and realize we're maxing back, we try and swap this flight
through the mid to salvage it.
I don't want to see Lorna up on a side lane.
I think that's the biggest thing for me.
Even Rikaz is the matchup.
And if the hussle pick puts you in that position where you feel so pressured,
pressure, you take him off the mid lane, and I think you can't be in that position.
Because you need this guy to pop up.
Just too much when it comes to the draft.
I mean, for old school, when it comes to the coach, they know that there are
opportunities to be able to make these sort of things.
I mean, this is something you come from in old school era as well.
You've been talking about like, where are the try lanes, where are the lanes
Like where are these sorts of things and you can see it seems like you know you do that it is he comes with a hefty risk
Right for sure. I like that. They were thinking about it
I don't think the swap was bad in terms of the lane again
I think it's just how this team function like this is a team that needs
Lorna to control the game yes control the pace the win condition especially
He did not feel like the win condition and some of that's the lane saw some it's also the draft is German
Even going to carry this game. I think the way he carries it is
having such a strong early game presence that he's five or six K
net worth ahead and you're winning fights you're winning Roshan.
You can do that from the safe lane against the Huskar of all heroes.
It's just not doable.
And Falcons also take a risk, right?
But there's a reason right there.
There are veterans at the game.
Nygma Galaxy, a relatively young roster,
recently put together before the TI qualifiers.
You could see inexperience hurt them here.
There's risks and there's calculated risk, right?
that's the one that falcons to
here changing that center into
mid instead of its traditional
off lane role the Oscar going
into a more as well, but big
prop still here for the galaxy
and to mail he goes. This is
the reason I slept the carry
so I can every now and then
have a mid game for himself,
but I'm still a mid. That's
the question mark we have.
Yeah, to be honest, I think
it's a pretty reasonable
really bad otherwise. Lifestyle is going to get crushed by oscarus so you say okay let's
create maybe a better scenario. It's just not good enough and even past like to be honest
they're not down that much gold. I think the real issue is their heroes don't work very
well together because the lany phase wasn't that bad. They were only down with maybe one
k at 10 minutes. That's fine. I mean I do think for magma it's the best thing they could have
done in that situation. I had nature's rocket gone mid. It doesn't matter what kind of lane you
It would have been a loss even earlier if your life story doesn't have a game because what ended up happening in this game is
Hustkar took a lot of attention
Not a lot of pressure forced a lot of TPs tanked a few deaths even but Skeeter on this then was farming off the storm
And the issue was this then sailing is very hard to deal with
And I think this is exactly what it's in conflict right? They present Hustkar
So it's so much of a problem that we spend all our time talking about Hustkar
Negus spends all their time thinking about us car and nobody thinks about so he just gets to do his own thing
Yeah, you're also looking at how do we make sure that we have the best laid matchup and what was I this has to be
I mean skater is an amazing carry, but this has to be one of those rivaling performances for him when it comes to
XPM that's the one that I think is most important because normally we look at GPM
We'll always focus on okay when are you gonna get certain item timing so your car can join you in fights
but always he was level 19 at 21 23 minutes. I believe it was. It was something a great job.
Yeah, he's out of control and he's playing a Blink Son hero, which is what he loves. You know,
he wants to get up in there. He wants to be a part of fights. His other two players are the real
cores and he's like sort of he's really the off laner to be honest on this team. But he was
the carry and the off laner in this game. He kind of played had all the hats on it once and
he owned. And I think this game really shows the difference between like a team that has a
a ton of experience in a team that has worked together for a long time compared to the team
that is new, right? Like, Nigma Galaxy, they were the higher seed, but they are the much
newer team with the much easier group stage path and I think Falcon's showing, hey, we're
the big dogs for a reason. Yeah, 1,183. XPM is pretty insane, but when you have your team just
drawing the attention of the enemy and forcing them to one side of the map and you have free
reign in this patch, you can make a lot of gold. And I can see why Skeeter, this TI,
has been going back to heroes like Sun, because with the heroes that Falcons have been running,
like the Nephiles Flex, the Centaur Flex, and the Huskar, it creates situations for him to just have
free form. And while he does play the offline role like he mentioned, Skeeter has shown us
time and time again that he can carry if that's the role that he's put in. If he's the hero
who's going to do the damage, he will do it. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this Falcons idea,
in many ways, is like, we have three cores that are all going to pressure very heavily,
And then like one of them or two of them will get out of control
You can't answer all the problems that we present to you. You don't have enough damage for all three of them
And it's kind of interesting when we saw this draft niggum ends up banning alchemist and tiny in the last phase
And then they literally picked the third hero that does the exact same thing like alch tiny and slender all the same guy
Which every one of them that was up through they would have picked that one
And I think this speaks to like
How falcons
They that's the kind of team they are they will always put themselves in positions
where they can do the same thing they did last time and you don't actually have a way to respond to it.
Well, it works for them in Game 1 at least it definitely does and whilst we love what Skeeter was able to do on this
Ven being such an unsung hero, there was a lot of focus put on this Huskar on the side named the Galaxy
but that's exactly where Perge wants to put his focus as well.
Thank you Nat. Yeah, the Huskar on the side lane, it's something that Amar does slightly, or semi regularly
he's known for it, but the way that he'd lane it against Lornoff was quite interesting.
know if you don't know when you right click enemy heroes it creates a little
aggro around your hero and any enemy creeps in there are going to run at you
and that's why these dire creeps are running in this direction every time
that they get near. You're going to see Crit do the same thing he's going to
walk up here right click an enemy hero briefly and it's going to pull aggro from
the creeps and what they're trying to do is get these range creeps here below
half HP so they can get a deny. So this is the big priority and normally
players prioritize having at least one hero that has an ability that they
can use to secure the range creep because that's where the majority of
the gold or a significant portion of that in the experience are so these
denies kept coming from the Falcon side and the whole goal is that they hit
level two before their opponents they get more golden experience than their
opponents and they got a huge amount of these denies here here's another one at
a minute 40 that was the first range creep that Nigma Galaxy actually
secured there in the safe lane which helped their trajectory and even
here Amar pulling two melee creeps to get the range creep when nobody's
remotely close he's just consistently denying creeps to make sure that his
lane goes okay, that he hits his level 2, that he hits his level 3.
Lornav even forced to use his Sprout to secure last hits, and when that happens they end
up getting more opportunities to go for kills, again pulling the range creeps back and controlling
the wave almost entirely.
But eventually they can start going for kills too.
The Sprout gets wasted, GH gets a little bit aggressive, and Falcons realize, oh we
can actually walk forward at him now.
Because he's forced to use his spells just to try to get gold and experience.
So securing these kills are really instrumental, helps keep this nature's profit hero
who is arguably the fastest farming hero of this tournament so far. They kept him back even in this moment too.
Pressure to Marr here on the lane, sprout to the left. He gets a TP in from Malry and there's this, uh, the stampede and a really easy kill.
So excellent laning there by the Falcons to where lane swapped the Huskar where he needed to go to keep the heroes locked down on
the Galaxie to give them a very easy win.
A beautiful display. Thank you so much, Purge. Outlining, yes, what we saw in draft and what we coined is a fantastic move from Falcons.
But breaking down exactly why that early pod, that lane is so detrimental in it, really ties back to what Cap and SVG were saying too, where, sure, this Nature's Prophet needed to be the win condition, but was not set up in any way, shape or form, to be a win condition.
Yeah. He's also got two really heavy farmers on his other lanes. Lifestealer just farmed, so there wasn't any moves. And Darkseer is honestly a very, very farm oriented offline here.
three dudes who all need the same thing. No one's willing to make space for the
mean aid and we're talking about it backstage but having two melee supports
on your team is often a pretty big hindrance because neither one of them
really does damage oftentimes the typical archetypes they tend to be set up
and not follow-up and so you can end up in situations where it's hard to
actually make kills happen because your two dudes do the same job shifting
our focus a little bit away of the nitty gritty when it comes to this
game number one and this best of three and looking at our focus of what
So what are these teams doing between groups and our main event here?
How are they preparing for themselves?
And how happy were they, more importantly, GH and Sumail giving us their time during the
group stage and main stage?
Throughout the group stage we had our first defeat against Team Ironwing.
We choked a bit.
And then Gaffer that we just grouped ourselves together and it was pretty smooth sailing
from there.
Starting the first game with Wattabit Ruff, first years actually, and then it started
getting better slowly and now we're 4-1 in the group stage.
Going against Valkyries, I'm predicting it to be honest for us.
Coming into this TI we had a relatively weak bootcamp, I think we had some struggles,
but we picked it up slowly in this event and a bit before we came here.
So I'm very confident against them and I believe we have good chances.
Honestly, every tournament I go to will be a TI or any other tournament.
I really don't put any expectations, because usually when I put expectations for myself, at least,
it kind of sets me in a bad mindset, so I just remove all expectations.
I think going to TI, I always have the mindset to either win or there's no other result that you're happy with.
So nothing has changed, I would say, so far.
Well, TI compared to any other tournament always feels special for me at least.
The air feels different, the stage feels different, and this year is going to be in Shanghai,
so I believe the last time we played at TI in Shanghai was in 2019.
China has always been kind to us, we always had a lot of success here, I'm very grateful
for that.
I think this time, I hope it's going to be the same, I'm extremely excited to
to play in front of the crowd and to have some parts of my family support me being here,
so I'm happy for that.
Ni Hao to the Chinese fans and hope you support us too and hope we give you a good time.
TI is, I don't know, I won my first one and in my back of my head I'm going to win at
least two more and then I've been playing for 11 years since, I haven't done it,
so it's just something I'm always chasing.
I think this really looks pretty good though, so let's see.
see can't come back and saying it's a best of three for a reason. And I truly believe
with what this new name the Galaxy is showing and adaptation and a readiness to learn from
that game one is very that I think they got trapped into playing falcons game. And I think
a lot of great teams have been trapped into playing falcons game and it always ends up
with you losing. I think when you when you end up playing this game falcons are
just way too good. These players are too skilled. They're too comfortable. They're
too happy to play this kind of game. So I think for them it's it's all about
trying to create a scenario where it doesn't look like this and they get to play their
stuff. They get to do like the Lornoff macro, they get to set up their game and Falcons
now has to respond to them because I think Falcons are also kind of bad when they're
put in that position. They need to play their own game.
I'm glad there was a little bit more to that sentence because I would have been scratching
my head there as Falcons and Nigma Galaxy are both going to be taking to the stage
once again. It is Nigma Galaxy potentially on the backflip. It's how you look
at losses the way that you can learn and grow from them and make those quick adaptations
in a first and three. It didn't feel like any foundations or fundamentals for the side of
thing to get to near or an issue. So whether you want to chalk it up to drop even if it's
something you might not like to do, it feels that's one of the easiest ways to move
on and restart for a game to. For sure. If you can just say, ah, we messed up
in the draft. We got a hostage. What can you do? That allows you to talk about
what it is that you want to approach in terms of your game plan versus Falcons, because like
Insania mentioned, Falcons, if they're on the back foot and they're playing from behind,
they don't necessarily look like a good comeback team. They struggle in this situation. Fundamentally,
Falcons are a team that will skill check you when it comes to laning. Their players
are the best in the world at laning, maybe second to boom boys who are also exceptionally
good at it. But from there, if you are in a situation where you've given them
winning lanes. The game is difficult from then on. So if you're thinking about what heroes
can you pick early on in your draft, what supports can you pick that enable your lanes
and make sure you're not in a situation like that.
Yeah, I think it's a great point. And I think another thing that we always found gave us
a lot of success against Volkans was they push waves a lot. I think the thing Aiden
said about like they're kind of just everywhere pushing all the waves and following on everyone
all at once and you feel like you can't catch everyone and they're just getting
more gold than you. And so I think having heroes that can chat up and just push the
waves in and take some areas so that you get vision. You're the one who's taking the
space because then I think that when they're clumped, those players feel really uncomfortable
when they're not all able to get farmed because that is how they play. They are
a trident, of course, with the support standing behind them. And so if you're the ones
who are up in their faces, we would pick stuff like TerraBlade or Lina, but we can
just go push the waves. We kill them without people seeing us. And then now suddenly
we see where they are and they don't have this, you know, constant weight push
threat? Do you think that that's a better approach than potentially having a core and a support that
can try and pick off a hero and then another two cores and a support that can be elsewhere,
trying to still overwhelm them in numbers if they're trying to solo push out waves?
I think combination of both is really nice. Having those sort of kill pairs, not too many numbers
because you don't want to get sucked into being too many people in one place because
they're everywhere. And so you have to commit some heroes here and you kill one guy,
but at the same time the others are farming, I think it's sort of your ideal setup.
Yeah, and I think the in my ideal gaming in falcons we every two pairs of our heroes kills them
So like if it's my carry on my five or my carry on my mid or if it's my five and like full like whatever way you can
Create a situation where as few heroes as possible kills the falcons here that shows on waves
You're gonna do good and I think really even more important than killing them
I think is like you said it's taking their map space away because these guys want a big map
They want like tier one towers to fall early on they tend to make a lot of moves towards a Mars lane to try to open up
The tower early on when he hits a certain timing and I think preventing these things from happening really hinders our game
And that being said that just brings us back to the draft
right it's because
The house guard looked so good because they had a clockwork and they had a elder Titan. What do you do after that?
It doesn't feel like it's linear straight forward at all
This was right at the beginning of TI one of the most
joyous moments that you can have with a
your teammates coming back to TI together is getting those rings after 12 months of lifting the ages
It's definitely a feeling very few have gotten to do for themselves and like I said to return as a five-stack a
Stack that has come back together for their third TI when it comes to Falcons
Yeah, it must be so special to be to be bound by not only of the time you spent together in the tournaments you played
But you got the crown jewel the accomplishment you've been striving for you got it
And you get to see that sort of realized and immortalized in the ring you get 12 months later
Like oh, yeah, we did that and you have this sort of sense of gratefulness that like we went through all this and maybe this year
Felt kind of crappy but like remember what we did last year and we get the chance to do that again
And I can't imagine how special that feels it's funny how
this year is crappy for them when they got so many top fours anyway but any
other team would have been content with a year like they had they didn't get any
first places but they got so many pointy and finishes and for them it's just an
awful year this is a team that expects to win like you mentioned in Samia it's
either first place or last place and it seems like because of their year maybe
some teams are underestimating them they're forgetting about some of their
specialty heroes they're forgetting about their huskars and their flexes
because we heard in that interview some of that they'd come in with a
very strong to look whether you want to put that up to make me galaxy confident in
their ideas or if it's a little bit of I need to fake it till I make it either
way it's not looking like a tour of the galaxy but a game to is on the cards
Ligma Galaxy versus Team Falcons. Game two.
Looking at those results, talking about those results here, something that Falcons have always coined for themselves is how much they thrive on consistency.
And so often throughout years, whether it's visa issues or whether it's an adjustment with one of their teammates, they be being off a little bit mentally.
It feels like they suffer drastically from that.
But when I look at what has been the lead-up into TI,
there has been a consistency for them.
How well they did in those group stages of EWC,
how well they did the online tournament before coming into TI,
it really is quite an interesting aspect of why aren't people
maybe rating Southlands a little bit higher?
But you also complain that when their group stage was shaking.
Yeah, it almost feels a bit disrespectful towards them
in that sense, because their results aren't the usual
that you maybe you let your guard down and look some heroes through. We see in this game too that
Hascar is banned in that first phase. Nigma don't want that smoke. They've just decided that this hero
changes their drafts too much. It changes the way that they want to play the game and they're going
in a different direction. It's a good idea, but what I don't, what it's a little unsettling or
worrying maybe is how much time they're using on this first pick. It's typically the thing
that's the most planned out. You know all the variables. Oftentimes you can predict what
will be banned based on what other teams banned, but they still spent 40 seconds of their reserve
time on it, which to pick the same hero they picked last game, which now it's a little bit different
circumstances as the Huskars banned, but still, that doesn't bode a ton of confidence whenever you
use a ton of thought on the most prepared pick. Yeah, and I would assume Falcons responds
kind of similarly to Game 1. I think so far it's pretty good though. Yeah, I would think so.
It goes into both lanes, and I think that's like really the main thing that you want to
hit with this thing. It's a hero that responds to make this profit, they can run in both
I also think if you're banning Earth Spirit on first pick, it's a pretty
worrisome sign for like the tournament as a whole. Because this hero has shown
proven to be so dominant that if you're banning it on first pick, you're
definitely banning it on second pick. Yeah, that is like a very good point and
something teams think about in the heroes they try to play or they try to
make people think they play is you have to think about not just this
series but the whole tournament. And now when you've shown hey we're
you're spending your spirit both sides. That means the enemy team saves a band whenever
their second pick and that can really add up over time. It can restrict the number of
heroes you have that you get to choose between playing.
I mean for First Pick it's a massive deal. You only have three bands and one of those
is guaranteed now of First Pick for the rest of the tournament.
Yeah. You essentially just have one band less to work with than every other team.
You've got another issue with the Huskar man taking up space that you didn't talk
about. I do think a big part of why this First Pick took so long for Nigma
is that they got given the enchantress and they got given here they didn't think they would like the
necrofist you said ATF walked by you and just yelled i'm gonna first pick necrofist
yeah may have maybe been thieving a little bit there but i think the synthar is a much much
better response it makes sense against the city it was ben and game one i was gonna say game one
i'll do in the better for the devil game two straight up line fair unless unless he meant
overall first pick like if they had opener that's what he would see i feel like you would
would find a way to like move the gold players back.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm a man of honor.
Yeah, exactly.
You're still telling the truth there.
Look, the Enchandras does eventually get banned out by the Galaxian completely understandable
for Falcons.
It's a flex when it comes to support.
A four or five, it still leaves so much open for them.
And at the end of the day, when we saw Enchandras get played earlier by Yandex,
we're seeing it till cause.
That's insane that a support at, what, at least 20 minutes is more than willing
to man up and try to pull. I mean that part of Enchantress is amazing but what makes Enchantress
even better for Falcons, it ties back to like the concept of their team that we talked about
and it's the fact that this hero can farm creeps from a safe distance. She takes over a creep,
she sends it on a creep wave like on a mission far far away and then it just cuts all of your
creep waves and you have to run all the way back to your base to kill this stupid creep
and then he just takes over a new creep so you might not even get gold for killing it
and he wasted all this time and he just buys times for the rest of them to farm up their
items and you know build that big map in that regard and on top of that she is
enemy number one of the mid lane Enchantress and good enchantress players
will always rotate with that first siege creep to the mid lane try to kill the
enemy mid laner they'll take the creeps in the triangle and they will be
oppressing them for as long as possible and for nigma that we talked about
Laura enough being their win condition and their primary carry player in the
sense that he's gonna be taking most of the GPM Enchantress is a very very
bad fit for that stylistically. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. This, this
dazzle band repeat is so funny to me that these back heroes, yeah, I do too. And I
think it's cool when teams have a really specific read on like, this may seem like
not that important to be here with the five hero that no one else plays. A lot
of people think it's trash, but for some reason, the others have decided that
they think it's crucial to the way this team functions. And I think that
is like, that's what's really cool about some of the best teams is how
they analyze bands and what they feel like makes the team really tick because
that's what you're kind of doing when you're preparing is what do we think of
the heroes and the playstyle that really makes this team function what's at the
center of the machine yeah for Ningla their supports haven't had very big
hero pools so far and in the last game GH's hero pool also got target band and
he ended up on that ET which didn't look so hot and Bane is something that
he's also been running that when ignored in the last game it's something
that they could look towards and then pick a hoodwink for Omar just
Anything with kill threat, but I do think it's a very cool concept when without your support your draft falls apart
Yeah, I was gonna say they do leave open
I was gonna say a morana would win combo for the side of the galaxy
But changing it up adding another hero into the support for themselves. I'm bounty hunter. I mean this hero seems to be the hero of the day
I feel like team vision played it
Yeah, and socks have played it. Yep. Yeah, I know
Big must playing it too. So it just seems like probably during these off days. It's been trimmed a lot
It's kind of the vibe I get sometimes this happens where like you get three days off people start screaming
And for whatever reason as some team starts playing a hero and then like they're the first remote a day
And then it just like trickles into all the other screams
And they're also playing opposite sides of the bracket
So there's no way that the galaxy was swimming up against their falcons will potentially even like a liquid or yet
So they might have leave them button it from vision themselves
Exactly exactly and then like this the whole thing just develops right in these three off days and you're like
Oh, where did this come from and it was picked in group. It's it's not like completely
I don't know where but the popularity of it. I feel like it's new 100% great and there's a necro
I wonder what
Nigma are planning to do to really activate the bounty hunter because I'm looking at third draft and to me it doesn't make that much sense
It's like you're gonna track things sure and maybe NP can TP in but your marana isn't enabled your bounty hunter
Isn't gonna be setting up very comfortably on either some tour or a necroface
His gameplay is very unclear as of the draft right now
I think for Nigma it's about setting up their macro. You're trying to set up ways for Lornoff to TP in,
you're starting to set up ways for them to play the vision game, kind of trying to play that slow game,
and not so much focus on how do we win the fight, and rather how do we hook the stalking on the map.
I just worry if you can actually play this slow game.
When I think about the vision game where they won earlier, where you just dropped a bounty,
they were winning because they went ham, and they killed a bunch of heroes, and they sped the game up like crazy.
And if I look at this game, there is a Necrophos for which you have very little magic damage.
When he presses Gold Shroud, he's not going to die.
There's a Centaur who's going to press Stampede, a Clockwork who cogs and runs away.
Like, there's a lot of heroes that it's not that easy for you to feed off of.
And these heroes have no teamfight.
Well, I can't say that anymore, but they had no teamfight.
And I also think, like, if you put a Necrophos safe lane, right, if Skitter plays it,
suddenly his Darkseer is losing lane.
You can end up in a situation where you've got a lot of heroes that want kills
and a Darkseer that's farming and you can't get those.
I mean, I guess you can do cool things, though. Like, you can stack ancients on Bounty Hunter if there are no clear kills or map disruptions to be made, and you can just get Ion Shell then, you know, stand around invisibly.
This is a very old-school, dark-seer, farming, DPM combination. That could be something to do.
Yep. And I found it interesting, Nigma's like, like, banning Sun, and I'm pretty sure the next fan's gonna be tie-near or out, and then Skeeter's just gonna pick, like, whichever one of them's luck over.
You think that it still needs to be that archetype of carry the full skater or could you see him playing more of like a
Ranger say a wind ranger or a shadow theme or something like that. I mean, I
Feel like he's just gonna play out and like there is a world in which he plays a necro
I don't hate that idea
I think it for whatever reason they want to put the Sunthrow on the offlane and pick Mal'Rain as well that that often
Definitely exists, but I think this is the cool thing about Falcons like when you get to this point in the draft
first of all, you know none of their lanes and
And you have her than two of skaters blinks on heroes because he's gonna want to play one of those and even then he's
Might still might not because they have so many options when they reach this point
There's also the option of clinks and that's his most plate carry of this tournament
It's not a hero that gives darks here a good illusion and they can eat one of the iron shell creeps making the lane stage a lot simpler
Yeah, it's a good call and they have plenty of disables and plenty of lockdown
So he can play a blinkstone if he wants, but I think he will do it if it's good game matchups on the blinkstone
You're not necessarily for the draft as a whole
Which I think is a lot of times the reason this game they have clockwork starting it center starting like they got plenty of that
And so they can have some more. It's you don't necessarily
Yeah, but they don't need it and so it should be I think this pick last pick here in a situation
Which you're super happy about which is your draft is kind of well-rounded already you that's funds follow-up and team fight and stuff
So now you just want a good game matchup to scales
They're gonna have overall lost pick and like you guys have already pointed out multiple times
flexibility coming out the side of Falcons but then we Galaxy find a win ranger for themselves
here and so are we seeing Lorna hopefully go back into the mid with a nature's profit
or?
I don't really know I mean they have options to decide this for themselves I think whenever
you end up running like double turret heroes like two ranged carry heroes on the same
It always presents some problems for you because you have two boys that essentially don't want to go in first
And they want everybody else to like kind of do the dirty work and then come in and clean up
And you can have one of those you actually want one of those most of the time
We don't really like having to and dark seer in some ways kind of plays that kind of game too where he
Ideally on somebody else to go in and then I can put vacuum everybody and like suck them into some nice
Situation so I feel like make my right now. They kind of lack like when I look at their draft
I see a lot of problems like that they might run into if they play extremely well and they find these like clutch openings
You can absolutely still make it happen, but it's I think from Falcons. It just looks a lot more stable
I think they have a read that it's an off-lane necrophos
I mean they think that one Ranger has a good lane against it
And it's a hero that combine early nullifier and they prioritize that over the redundancy of having those two turret heroes
This can work if their lanes go very long
The caveat is what if their lanes don't? What's the plan B? There's no setup for
this Marana arrow. Getting track kills will not be easy. You're just gonna have
to out skill. And if you're playing the farm, Falcons would love to be in that
situation. Yeah, the lack of ways to set up arrow and they kill combos is very
true. And I think it's to the exact opposite of what we talked about how
you beat Falcons. What combos on Nigma Galaxies line up really kill people
together. You've got a bounty hunter and a winnager maybe? But besides that,
does Nature's Prophet work with Potom, Marana sorry? Or does winnager work with
These combos are weird and awkward, dark shows and healthy heroes really.
There's no heroes to shell or to surge.
It's very strange synergy between the heroes.
They don't particularly work well together.
Well, Foxen's ran down like literally a total of five seconds,
but in Sadie's call all the way from the vent phase.
Truly shocking.
I can't believe he picked one of the three heroes,
but that was the exact same thing as the heroes of our fans previously.
But is it, you know, that game for us?
Is it worth one of those things that yes it's very telegraphed it's very scripted in a way but my goodness it is gonna give them the extra
I don't think it's like it's not like oh my god Alak what do we do? It's super game winning, but it's more like if I'm
Falcons and I looked at my heroes
I'm like we got everything that we wanted nothing like there's no hurdles for us for as I feel like for Nick my look at it
I'm thinking like is this truly what they wanted before they came into this game
Is this the draft that they had in mind or is this the fact that like thousands present the problems?
and we try to fix those problems through our job.
You know, now that this has come out,
I actually think Nigma have a chance to play for a later scaling
and win off of that if they wanted to.
Again, it's going to depend on them not getting crushed on the lanes
and having the opportunity to play.
But had it been a glimpse, for example,
the scaling would have been better than both turns on the side of Nigma.
That's not the case now.
Yeah, if I'm honest, I think the preparation falcons day,
whether it be Ali or the rest of the team,
they've done a masterclass
because I think Nigma has been outbrained and out-strategized in both these games in draft
and I think there's some hurdles to overcome because I think Falcon's cooked.
Well, Falcon's cooking is only one part of it. It's all down to execution as well.
And so even though it's difficult, do we think Nigma Galaxy gonna live up to that standard again?
They come in as the higher seat.
I think Nigma, to be honest, they proved in game one that their fundamentals were so solid.
And I feel like despite them not having the ideal setup from the draft,
they were able to contest to a certain point in the game.
And if they're able to do that again, I think at least compared to last game,
they have more playability in this game.
I think last game it was a lot tougher. This time it's a lot more playable,
though again there are issues that they need to overcome,
but it's not issues that you can't fix through skill.
I agree. I don't think it's that fleek.
I think there's no one hero that's creating a massive problem for Lorinov in particular.
So this is a different kind of nature swap that we're going to see.
He's going to be tipping in on the Alchemist.
He's going to be playing on these sidelines and trying to add tempo to his team,
which is going to be the difference maker here. AOS the goat. I'm with the birds. I'm with the birds.
All right, you're sticking to it that you fully have faith in what Ali is doing for himself. I
can see a little bit behind me, guys. Hopefully they are ready because I do believe Tsunami and
Ali are ready to give us a bit more insight into how this game could draw play down.
That's correct. I'm standing by with A UI 2000 coach of Falcons. You are getting a lot of
praise from our panel for your drafts this series. What would you say is your confidence
level compared to the average Falcons draft during group stage?
I think the drafts are very good this series. I mean, the Mard is most of the drafting,
so that's a lot of them. But I think there's video.
In terms of preparation, I feel like in many tournaments, many TI's, there's a group
stage meta, and then it kind of evolves into a playoff meta. This is now the
the 9th game of our playoffs so far. Do you see any difference emerging quite yet?
Honestly, I'm not sure. I think most teams just look at Paravision and how they're playing
the map, and that's like the biggest development since the group stage. I'm not too sure on
heroes if there's been a lot. It's a bit hard to play pubs in this region, to be honest,
so like, it doesn't develop as fast.
And then in terms of one hero, maybe I can get your opinion on it. Bounty Hunter
has been trending quite a bit today especially. What's your opinions on it?
No, I think the hero's pretty good. I think it was already sort of getting popular before this tournament.
And I don't know, there's like this guy called Serpent who's a sniping courier on the EU server.
So people are like watching him and like, he's very annoying. So I think that's like the Milnetta.
You think it's a role model for how we should be playing this at TI?
Yeah, maybe it's like the nine class monkey thing where you're invisible in your tracks. That's pretty good.
Well, let's see if it works out or if you have the solution. Good luck in this game as we send it to our casters.
The bird is the word it seems like everybody is favoring Falcons going into
this game too but Nigma Galaxy had been here before they've had some rough
games before in fact the very first group stage game they had agreed we
casted it and it was not a good time it was perhaps the worst I've seen from
Nigma Galaxy quite some time they look great for the rest of the group
stage is that possible here? Oh absolutely this is a team that can
recover they're not gonna tilt that not gonna choke out they have too much
veteran experience in those leadership roles they just need to figure out how
to make the game flow a little better I honestly think Migma is one of those teams
where I don't honestly care what they draft I care a lot more how they play
and how the game is flowing for that particularly for that man in the
mid lane warthog that he's cooking if he's controlling the tempo getting them
off to a good start stabilizing the map his team is gonna do almost anything
and they're always gonna have an up-to-date attitude.
They're never gonna gg out early.
They're gonna make it work.
They're gonna find a way.
I kind of believe in that.
That said, Falcons are always a test in our guard.
They throw you off your game.
They make it so the game doesn't flow that well.
And they're gonna try and do that in the end.
They might be getting in some trouble here.
And what they throw now, the Ion Shells
gonna burn down the two minutes.
Get that first blood.
Over to the Mai, making it to the second blood.
Wait a minute.
The four and three of Nicks and Galaxy
are cooking in the off lane at double for the Mai.
Yeah, first blood.
Game one, two.
So they've been overperforming in these early stages.
We heard the panel talk about the last band going into the pit.
The Tiny, the Sven, and the Alchemist.
I think it was important to give the Alchemist there.
I think if they gave Sven or Tiny the scale and the map pressure that the Darkseer was
going to be able to create is a lot worse.
I think they have way better tools against the Alchemist.
The wall illusion is a lot more influential with the Radiant plus some of the other
Horses.
The Bounty Hunter can harass him in the jungle.
essentially set kills up with Pryon keeping in, and you have a lot of lane shove that the South Caster spawned in.
So I actually think the fans were on point, I think this was that hero you wanted to give Skeeter in this situation,
and there are going to be some openings to potentially abuse it here.
Here's another hero we got to talk about though, a player-hero combination, Amar and his Necrophos.
Now Falcons, this was a bad pick up for them early on in the group stage.
It was not working whatsoever.
And you said this is a hero they had to keep picking and had to work for them, what?
I think Amar has this idea of...
They can make Necro work and it's a true flex for them and it becomes a threat.
It's gonna open up a lot of them.
So then you can start to pick it earlier in the middle of that draft and you're gonna...
So many options open for yourself.
Falcons needs a couple of cores that they can flex around between Amar and Maureen specifically,
but across all three lanes they will put a zero.
We're seeing it with the Centaur in this series, right?
They need to be able to early pick cores and have the flexibility to make their draft work
I think a more really like this concept and I think next post is one of those that fit into a tee
So in that sense, they need either the Necro the centaur some of these early cores to flex around
I think the Necro is the one who is trying to force them both
This is some unsuccessful game for sure, but as a draft rule it's super powerful
You're gonna bust it out here. It's okay. Necro came up
I don't think he's up against some of the hardest counters in Dota
but he's not abusing any big melee heroes.
The Wind Ranger can be a tough matchup.
The Darkseer one's kind of negligible.
And I think the Furion's a really bad one here.
There's a lot of lane shots if you're really mobile.
Again, you're a static hero in this game.
A lot of static cores for Falcons.
If you even want to get off through a fast park,
I would really like to see them play this game.
And a map.
Don't let Falcons just farm the map,
and we might see a Game 3.
It does make a lot of sense that this was
crucial for a drafting perspective. If Amar, we heard AY very humbly, you know, the prey should go to Amar,
he's the one who must do the drafting. Close call, close call, yeah, skill shot. So if Amar is like,
you know, he feels like, you know, this is a must win situation for us. We have to get this Necro
up and running, so we can flex it into draft and he is the drafter, you know, that makes a lot
of sense. It's a formula that they want TI with. We're currently able to go back to it here,
But he's definitely a little bit rough against Windranger sometimes.
He's not having a lot of fun though. The Windrangers also not having too much fun down here.
Will is not sessing really well. The lane got pushed in pretty deep.
It's this top lane that's really blowing open the lane phase right now.
Overperforming on this bounty hunter plus darts here early on.
He do ramp up pretty fast but they got a lot of extra goals out of that early double kill.
And now they're just wave cutting, pushing towards the helm.
And the second the helm comes out this bounty hunter can roam.
You don't really have the best filter at mid, I'd say you roll into that necroposal lane
with potential theory on force, that's the real point of abuse here.
Sockets need to read these moves and defend them well.
There's the TP.
There it comes.
With the Ion Shell, that's what makes this move extra deadly.
And the damage against a hero that is susceptible to the magic damage you have at teleport
coming in as well.
Oh yeah, you think there's any way to go stroud, there's Lorna popping out with a sprout, GH the one to get the last hit, the exact who you wanted.
That's the point of pressure, those are the exact heroes you want combining for that kill, if you're an instantly can head back towards mid, doesn't cost you anything, and you will have rapid HR here in another wave.
So this fury on pace is going to look a lot different than Game 1, and that is something you have to consider. I think Nirmik and Alex are very confident in what this hero can do for them.
We just didn't see it be able to function at that level due to the lane swap.
Do you think they're gonna run it back like you don't have the teleport on curion
But do you think they're gonna try and set up another kill on necro with the wrath of nature?
You're either going to one of these sidelines. I'm not attacking sent or me. I just don't care about some time it
It cannot be to think of a point of focus. It has to be there next closer off of this
If you're trying to slow down in this early game, it beats nectar kills off of I'm going back back on him
I get low here because I'm at the nature of his close call, but he lives there's a bounty hunter behind
Yeah, Maar, if he was here a little bit sooner, in fact, still will manage to get- Oh, that was a power shot miss!
Where are the skill shots, then?
Oh, Samail.
A whiff there on a set-up little stunt from Maar that should have been free, and Lornoff is going to pay the price for this one.
It is one very teleporting game.
Yeah, they do have a lot of extra agents for Maar, they're going to pop this hand-pick.
Shaking's going to go down first. Can they finish off Maar? They do.
They do but Maureen is warming up and he'll tie to the tower. It doubles for Marnov after death.
That's a lot of experience for GH. He's almost level six all of a sudden.
Oh wow, yeah. I don't know if Migma mind that too much.
This is getting a lot out of that situation. You don't want your fury on dying, but getting some extra experience here on the supports
could pay off big time. What is this, man?
Yeah, this is a move from Skeeter.
If you're gonna run all of these heroes to bottom, all these heroes to mid, well, guess what?
Now, you can take the Wizard of Tridentix, the experience could be much needed, and it's Mordor continues to assault on the sideline.
Teleport Saint gets a kill on Snake King, and very early on, with the Helmadan and Triumphs, the safe lane tower will die.
Nygma Galaxy, last time it was a 1930.
Tier 1 Tower, the first of the game that they managed to take here, it's 7.5 minutes.
Well, minutes ahead of schedule. Is this what you're talking about, Avery, when you say,
you know, this is a team that I don't really care about the heroes, more so about how they're playing them.
I want to see the good moves. I want to see the combinations. I want to see the spells landing.
The supports enabled. To me, that's what makes Digma Galaxy scary, not necessarily some specific lineup.
This is where the Alchemist can get punished. The Skeeter is playing super well. I don't know what his read of that move was,
But he dodged the game and took the wisdom shrine and then keep it a tail on the tower. So he was not the one dying there
Very heads of play and it secured him a really nice start here despite all the pressure going into it very early
Don't know if I've ever seen Alchemist taking a wisdom shrine
It's quite that is insane
And if he does well enough right he can pull a mar back into the game very easily not just with the
Oh yeah.
Impression that Alchemist is able to pull off being a blink stunning hero potentially, but also giving away an axe to Necrophos later on into the game.
There's a lot of axe stuff cool in this game that's a mixture of skill.
Maybe well they're gonna continue to hunt bottom.
They have connections with the Power Shot Narrow down here.
They're gonna set up an arrow, it does an angel land.
A little three car call.
And they got it.
What's the wrap?
Yeah, you definitely have it on bad.
But, he's gonna need a re-cite kill potentially.
Wait for him.
Okay, they get it with the Stampede at least. Now he's level six.
It's not worth it though. You're just getting experience for the bounty hunter. Once more GH is mega high level, also the extra experience mid.
You have some extra damage to play with here.
Not a bad start for Digma Galaxy. The alloc is quite far,
but you did shut down the Netfifos, which I think was important. You had to pick one of these.
And you're getting your supports online.
This is this 10 to 20 minute mark is where the game can be scary for Falcons
You have to limit the damage just trying to get through this period gets the other side where you're gonna start to farm up
Take advantage of the Alex net worth advantage and kind of just win flights off the back of Skeeter
That can be dangerous. So when you look at the actual five on five, who's gonna deal damage to set up a reaper site
only the
help with
Back off into Arrow, snaking.
He falls.
Omar is even still looking at a play.
He did at the exact same time.
He's low.
He's towering it up.
Maureen, he's going to reach in up a little bit here.
He can pull back in though by the vacuum.
Put it in double show.
And all he can do is double edge and hold.
That somebody can help him out.
What's going on?
Falcons are all stood up.
What a difference in this game where it came about.
The pressure the purion's been able to create on top of the next year Rome the towers. We're gonna see three tier one dead
Almost seven minutes before we saw one in the last key
To me this is why I wanted that period
It just blows better for them or if you're gonna play the safe like your own smell plays a fine
But then it can't get she's
You just can't have this hero get cheese. So three tier one's dead lasted to the period of this could be
The double-invise support duo set up. Here comes that arrow, lands first place in our storm, and the power shot.
Samael takes the last hit. The wrath of Hater comes through and takes out the neutrals, leaving nothing behind for Omar.
This is getting scary for Falcons. You can bend, not break in this game, but you're really broken right now across the map.
You have no response to the Bounty Hunter games, and he has the extra damage.
With the arrow shells, with the wrath, some long-range artillery connection between arrow and the power shot,
these kills are just surprising tokens. In some ways I think the panel underestimated how these heroes are connecting.
Big My Galaxy able to keep the momentum flowing. Got a 4000 net worth lead over an Alchemist lineup now.
This is an Alchemist that hasn't really started cruising yet.
But he's not gonna... This version of Alch is not like the old ones where you just get Radiance,
you run into the fight and hear a jaw and no one can touch you. You can die in this game.
You probably need Radiance Blink BKB to really just chat up and 1v5 it you will have a strong BKB timing
Windranger does have a good matchup against you
With full me only you're done
Can't bring you down so there's threats to Skeeter here and he's sweating a little right now
He's getting wrapped in the jungle. He's worried about where the threats are
You can't afford to die right now in this alchemist now you're getting tracked you're thinking man
If I just get keep it on as there are smoke gank going into me
You have to keep the farm rate up all these little look at the little time it's been wasted here
This is annoying for him. The my is actually taking the camp right in front of him with the Almadon creep with an Ion shell on it
Very efficient to me. This has been the greatest drink the bounty hunter is this one
It's a hero that can really disrupt farming patterns give you a lot of information advantage not really even about what heroes doing itself
It's just it causes it throw teams off their game. It reminds me of some of the patches where Nick's assassin
He goes 0-8, but thanks to Geekler, he's catchable will be enough, not by a long shot.
Only half HP, 4GH of that duo of Maureen and the Snake King.
So reveal the blink dagger, they didn't get anything for it.
They're gonna have to smoke it up here.
They do a brave time on the Alch.
They have macro fire plus smoke shots that throw into a center field.
They want to connect to the Windranger, but Samel's already shoved the wave into the Tier 2, into a Marge,
and will retreat back to his own tower.
The tough smoke to land. Again the bounty hunter is giving so much information right now.
Yeah he's behind the tier 2 mid and saying,
There's nobody around here guys.
They're doing something.
Does Simeon still get caught by it though?
The smoke's gonna break.
Maureen spots him.
With Runtink, they're caught up away.
Hit by the Hose, top gating to the ice path.
Push it into wall.
That's a beautiful cogs hit.
That'll keep you inside the macro fire.
He's dead.
They put down a C.
We're going to try and get a Punish here.
They teleport in from Mournoth.
No stuns available.
Nothing! They all teleport away, Scott Breen!
That was a weird response, they keep his darks here super late.
Lornoff wasn't sure if he wanted to just man up there.
Great cog bouts, so that win range just survives.
If you don't stun him and slow him down to that macro a little longer.
So well executed from Falcons.
Not an easy smoke to land with a lack of vision on the map.
By his time for this alchemist, they'll push towards that blink
where he can start to get more active.
I still wonder how fat the Vi is in this game.
It's gonna be a fat spike.
That makes it harder for Amar to come into these fights
and clean up some easy Reaper kill.
This is Botsworth.
I mean, this signal...
doesn't even want the second Radiance in this game.
Like, how greedy do they feel they can get
with some of the bad pressure that's been exerted?
That's very odd. Especially with the way that...
I don't know.
pushed in they lost all their tier one towers like you the map is kind of small
like I actually gonna be using this boots of travel he's effectively zero
network right now you know that's how you have to think about it and then if he
buys a second radiance your effective network maybe goes up by a couple
thousand but it's not a full value nice double son from Omar leading to the
arrow once again track gold comes in and it's nice the last hit yeah carry on
So that's even more gold so he gets to be a part of
Track kill gets bounty for the kill the other two supports pick up some tranquil on top of that
Shadow of the ball that's even a little more you gotta be careful running in here
Not the whole team backup the mine is giving them really good information and
Amara gh they're all lining these up nicely man. This this team is just completely different one. That's the fourth door
Just the whole game
Feels a lot smooth and have a broken Skeeter
Nothing real serious coming of it, but just keep it aware. Hey, we could pressure you too
Never know when that game could come up to the top lane
It's so much space to work with right now
Skeeter does have his blink dagger. So Falcons will be able to return fire soon
But a Yuleceptor already done for CH
He doesn't even need the bounty hunter to set up his arrows anymore
I think this is the most crucial decision of this game in some ways for Falcons, is do you try and risk the fight with just the blink on the Alp?
Or do you need him to have PKB as well?
Because if you take the fight and you blink the Alp and he dies, this game is gonna crumble.
And my gut read is he needs PKB to make that play.
I don't think you can fight with this Alp because I don't think this Nefropos is doing anything.
He's just a creep right now.
So if I'm Skeeter, I'm one up sweat.
Man, there's a lot of pressure I'll be in this one.
And two, I think I just have to prioritize my game, except that Amar's gonna be more
for a little longer and hope that that BKB timing gets him far, so this is gonna have
to get hard right now.
Yeah, the rate that Lord off is farming and keeping up with this Alchemist not
dimension divide who's even ahead of this area he's not a chance to find the
out so just yes on the start here full pipe done he's going to ronobato so he
wants some extra catch with the glight here hmm I build up I don't know if
they need it I think their kills have been connecting right I think you just
play to protect your other two cores I'd be surprised he commits board it
just be an offering build up here something I think it's also pretty
a good Sheeva's game if you want to go
the Azum Stone build up.
Yeah, most people who darts here, they go Sheeva's
because they want to cast them stone.
The extra armor is very nice.
Basically, I think you want to try and devalue the Alchemy
to be as much as possible.
And for me, Atoast is not going to do that.
Okay.
Because if you can kite the Alchemy,
I think the fight looks pretty straightforward right now.
But it's going to be effective
for a long time against the Neckra.
It will.
You're not considering like if the
Your goal is not to shut down Al, but to keep the Necro poor. I think this Necro's gonna be
Poor for a while this one. Here comes all this good night shadow gang set-up speed
Very entropy gonna be taught by the shackle very easy kill for Nick the galaxy
Just like that all of a sudden there are five heroes on top of the Alps
And now you got to look for something else. Change this kill, GH looking for the setup with the ULTRA guy
He's got a head of yours, cancel for Tiki, and his team.
Two cores, Sandor, Jinx, Snake King.
Both racing to try and get this bounty.
I'll get him here then.
They're also setting up bottom.
Amar, he gets trapped.
Get Walf, Fury on Tiki, when you want to see him take the galaxy.
I'll assume them on all three lanes.
Amar tries to make a run for his Tiki, but you can't outrun the surge.
That's for sure.
Look at the connections right now.
So, the thing is you can over-commit on these connections if you have Crackle,
Yep, and you have the Furion, who needs a free committal.
I think Lornaus TP was pretty awkward, it didn't even matter.
It is. I mean, you could also overcommit if you managed to get three different kills with three different lanes found for that game you've seen before this.
Skeeter trying to fade out Maureen in the mid lane goes for the Punish onto the Brauna, and they do get that kill, so...
Okay, so I'll put it for him.
It's been a minute since they've got a kill, but they finally get one. It was the last time was, uh, Snake King killing some mails.
We've got to be some kind of skier legacy game right here.
He needs to build up to it, he needs to basically play as perfect as we're on out.
We've already had one carry legacy game today, that's probably true of us.
A lot of hard-on-centar soon, that helps a lot.
It will be a second Radiance on a Marr.
That'll help this Marr rate, especially if you can win a fight and then just clear the map with double Radiance.
We can see this lead damage from Nixie Galaxy in the blink of an eye.
They just need to keep snowballing with this bounty hunter. Find pick offs.
Don't get too complacent with farming your side of the map.
Upuse your advantage as much as possible right now.
Yeah, it's like easy for you to win fights and get pick offs, but you do kinda have to be perfect about it.
So close. Got the TP away from Maureen.
They'll go for Crit instead. Did I see the Alkauff here?
Well, crazy pick up they could get in on a second time if they're walking like you.
I see him now. Yeah, they spot him off this ward, but it's kind of a bit too late.
Yeah, he has BKB, too.
This is Gears time to get more involved in this game.
The fights can be set up properly for him.
It is 20 minutes as well, so he did hit it right with the Tormentor spawn.
I am interested to see with that Tormentor, like, how much are they willing to stall
their aggression to hit objectives, right?
Gate Tormenter, to hit Roshan.
Wait, it kind of feels like any minute that you're not hitting the Falcons' cores is kind of bad.
I think it's fine if the Falcons' not hit everybody.
I don't want to see five heroes get destroyed if they're three or perfectly fine.
It gets done pretty fast here with the Focus Fire.
And get a free shard here.
Extra Indiz for some heroes on the vent.
Could be spicy in setting some of these extra kills up, you never know.
especially with Falcons being combined.
Just means the supports don't really have the most network,
may not be able to, certainly not going to be able to buy a jam early on.
Maybe low enough they can't afford all the sentries.
This is a nice timing for Falcons though.
That's that BKB for the Alk in the heart for the centaur.
So their tank just went up, their ability to stay in the fight
is well conserved.
Oh, a little sidestep there.
Hookshot does not land on a long.
And the smoke's coming through.
They're committing the elk into the play.
Hit the moment for Falcons in this game.
You really want to find the connection with one of these cores of the Pterion.
That would be ideal.
Realization right now.
Nigma Galaxy might smoke into them here.
It's going to break the Valley Hatter.
You'll get tossed into the stop.
The stop there's still a little bit of an arrow.
It's going to lead to a self-concaution explosion there.
He's going to start the fight in half health.
Very awkward. And the back-to-back hit on Maureen alongside the shackles.
So Maureen doesn't give a damn about the return.
He'll just keep it going.
Huffing the damage into the midlaner of Falkins, who cannot get away.
Can't stop the damage.
Sting in the plate.
Skeeter actually went for the kill and Mournau put a BKB from Mournau.
Great reaction from Maureen for a cycle to put down the bounty header.
But they're still in trouble.
Alcona being chased after.
Debye trying to back away from the necropods of Arch.
Rusing his extra reach and losing the damage.
And he's looking at Squishy.
Hit by the goal. Hit by a Power Sheldon.
Look at the down. He goes pretty fast.
They go back for Mournau though.
Gable can concentrate, trying to focus it down, but more enough, he just won't die!
Grave, all of the dragons and Gale throw the fight today, but it won't be enough!
Falcons get wiped.
That arrow was so devastating.
Oh my god.
I cannot imagine a worse scenario.
All of your hopes are on this, Alakazam's BKB.
You're running the fight, you take an arrow to the knee,
and you gotta sit there for eight seconds with the chains done on yourself.
I can't I literally cannot imagine a worse way for that fight to start a Falcon and then you could just see the second guess
You know
Supposed to commit are we supposed to get out? Are we going in again? It was so chaotic
That's never a team fight you're gonna win when you're so indecisive like that based on how it started
You mentioned Maureen's perspective. He's like guys like up them to go on me. I'm a heart centaur like he's doing a job
Where's my team he attracted so much attention even tank the focus fire, which is pretty much what you want here
If you're found because you did get a Reaper kill
It's what you can hope for it's on a bounty
It's not the biggest target, but you're not gonna be able to reverse the BKB here on the winrangers playing on the outskirts of the fight
Here you re-engage. This is just it's not the ticket now
You have to get out of your skater you have to kite get your Reaper kill
Are you bailing on this fight? Or are you sticking around this point and a Mars going in skaters going out?
Crazy commit from a warm. Maybe he feels like there's just no way out of this fight. Anyway, you just got a full send it sure
It's just the fact that they go back in for the Lorna up hill commit two heroes to try and get this
failed to do so by just a under damage
Take my galaxy very after that team play when that's gonna break this game open a lot of track gold on top of it
You win those teamfights with Furion, you're feeling real good.
Now up to an 11,000 net worth lead.
They do have a Furion, they do have a bounty hunter, so they do have some ways to generate
gold.
Also against Alchemist, Alchemist who's fighting against a gold lead rather than having one.
Not a comfortable position to be in.
I think she can finish the sides off of that.
That's huge.
to increase his own farm rate and scale in this game. So 15 as well. Wow. Jesus is the beast.
I don't know how this guy is so good for so long.
Again, funnelling. Are they intentionally funnelling all of these kills?
Yes. They're leaving it for the wrath that comes through and he's purposely getting the
last hit, so it's extra assist slash kill gold, I guess. Trackball for everybody else.
They're playing towards their win condition. Get this theory on fat.
let Windranger assassinate somebody, and then Darkseer just keeps everybody alive, bounty on Darkseer.
But it's all coming together here. Valka is just a little lost on the map.
I'm not sure of how to deal with the bounty, but no pressure.
In terms of the information, afraid to shelf the waves. I think that is the biggest factor in
this game too. They're a little tentative to get these lanes out deep. And it means they're
getting forced to their side of the map more. The farm is overlapping. We're not seeing a
Mark we're covering this game because he has nowhere to go with bots radiance. You build
bot radiance and this tier one bot of this city there. I don't think he's been across the river
in 10 minutes and this is this is the new tangible effects of the bounty hunter plus the
furion global threat really causing the mischews here. The galaxy is starting to take this
map over. There's a Daedalus for the furion and no people on the ship. You might just be able
of course the Rochon right here with a quick focus fire play, if you really feel confident.
They see pretty Alch is big, and it's another big time for Skeeter, but he has to do something
at some point in terms of turning this game around and bringing his other two boards back in.
Well it's very easy for them to get a chainstone combo, right?
If they've got Unsebelkin Caution, they've got Hogue Shot and Flick.
They've got a way to be able to start fights, keep the chainstone going, for macrofire
Reaper's side to come through. They do have a guaranteed Reaper. There's no hard save in this game.
Yeah, I'm almost tempted to say the Marsage is by a weak team, but I think Reaper the dude. I've never seen him do that.
It's not as M.O.
Maybe Shard on Centaur gives you a little extra sustained damage.
They're looking for the play with the Alchem. I mean, I do think Falcons have, they've understood the position.
And they're playing to the best of their ability to take these fights.
It's just tough to find an angle.
The worst thing that can happen for Falcons right now,
the Marr being picked off in this bottom lane.
He shows for a second there, immediately, tumbler toy,
heading for the hills.
And we'll have some time to think about the situation that we're in.
Both teams are going to be sitting there.
If you're a Nigma Galaxy, you know 100% that Falcons are making a move somewhere, right?
That they smoked up or did something.
There's too many heroes off the map for two.
Yeah, you see where Lornoff is right now.
He's reading this play going in bottom.
He sent Treants up north from his position.
He also scanned there, I believe.
So basically, you're looking at these Treants,
and you can just look for the aura on the Treants.
Sure.
The Radiance has turned off right now for Skeeter.
You're not going to see that, but he has AC.
You will see that.
look for any sort of body box any sort of information these little things make a big difference in dodging some of these plays but
Nygma Galaxy absolutely have a read of what's going on right now
As long as you don't lose your fury on the backside of the map. You're pretty happy with the outcome a
Deathless divine the only one on Nygma Galaxy didn't have that on your bingo card on
He's a different player now. Yeah, I mean this is a player that we have watched
Mature and grow a lot. Yeah for the last two years
I mean, I almost feel like he's pulled a 180 where he was one of the most violent volatile
Offlaners where he reminded me so much of Saberlein and his aggression in the off lane where you could just roll over some lanes
Or you know, he could give up a lot of unnecessary kills and now it feels like he's
Not that at all. It feels like he's way more distance
These are awesome games that are rough for him, but they're not all his own doing
You got two greedy core players. You got to make some space for it. Yeah, so this guy just brings the chill vibes
Look at him in the zone right now. He's keeping the energy up. I
Think he just loves Dota. That's the thing that sticks out to me. Maybe about this thing, but team in general
I just love playing the game. I mean anybody who's
Grinded through as many regions as the five has right here in Europe
Yeah, he's played in North America the biggest grind of all played through South America now
He's back in Europe again. There's a couple of players in this series that escaped NHL. That's for sure
But it was pretty funny talking to Dubai recently and asking him, you know, what what region did he
Enjoy pubs the most in outside of Europe, obviously
He actually enjoyed the N.A. Gula. He thought it was a good time, you know, like there was personality and characters
There's personality to my llama was a hero character melodies and one of the characters
I'm sure yeah, I'm sure he enjoyed his his brief torch. He knew he was getting out of there soon
That's for sure
Sounds like a little trauma speaking but you know not gonna speak on his behalf and he was doing it from Europe
So, you know, he was there in Belgium. Hey
Just playing all through the night because he was playing on an NA team. He would play in the NA servers, you know
Play a a on ping I know I wish that all my worst then imagine doing that like that's training
Everybody else in the world is doing the exact opposite and there's divide
No, I'm not gonna play on the European servers gonna play in the North American servers from reverence or surveillance. I'm not talking about the item
I mean that is a
Man who wants to grind get better take every opportunity you can stick it out
now. He's his opportunity with
Nigma Galaxy is best opportunity
in a while since his time in
heroic and a lineup that was not
really working for them until
the pickup of Lauren off in
another situation where a team
felt like they they transform
right. We talk about divide
changing as a player but
the galaxy army come on the
fans were just I think there
was no eSports fans in the
world that were just more hurt all the time by their team.
And so promising, get a 10,000 net worth lead, a 15,000 net worth lead.
And then they go high ground.
How many times did that Nick McGowan roster throw on the high ground?
And I think it doesn't happen anymore.
Ever since Lornoff joined, it really feels like it's changed a lot.
The high ground master apparently makes their problems.
High ground whisper, he knows what to do.
He knows to chill out, farm some creeps.
He's very good at playing towards the scale in one condition.
He rarely throws that position.
I think that is something they needed,
and it's slotted in real nice here.
Again, a whole new piece here.
It was the longest pause you had to go for the work,
turning back to, you had any memorable situations?
No.
Because I feel like I have to imagine it's pretty stressful
to be in like one of the biggest games of your career
and just have the entire thing.
You gotta stay calm.
Ground to a hole.
Gotta stay calm, cool, connected.
You can't lose the energy.
You gotta maintain the mentality.
Okay, so the last thing you think you would do
is like say put your chair back.
Oh, that's fine.
In a resting position.
As long as you're chill and you're vibing, you know?
It's like a year ago.
They're laying together on the TI stage.
Yeah, they're just boys hanging out in a pod, you know?
Yeah.
just see they were just like overthinking it. No, it was real, but it's like you got to prep yourself for a series, right?
Sure, sure. You don't want to come out of that booth and some guy was like, oh, I could think about that entire game. I
Think also a lot of these teams if you look at the history of those are the teams that are playing now particularly
These guys on the Falcons booth. I look at snaking and I think what Tundra developed and their TI win that carried over
over a lot of their teams in terms of the communication.
I think OG kind of solidified how much comms matter
and did it in their way.
And then Tundra said, we're going to take that idea
and make it professional.
Not that OG weren't professional,
but as concise as possible, as clear as possible,
get rid of all the chatter.
They're not chat wheeling.
They're not doing that nonsense.
It's just straight comms.
And I think that's carried over into this falcon squad
talking AOIs, Nade, King, Crit.
Their comms are very discrete.
No messing around, no bad information unless they're just trash talking the games over.
And I think you see that in a lot of modern teams now catching up to that, streamlining
the communication as much as possible.
Back in the day, people were just shouting random stuff, man.
You're going in the middle of a fight.
Some guys yell and drop your stick and you're like, what is going on?
It's crazy.
It's just, you think back on this and it's silly how far behind you were, but
that's the progression of a competitive landscape is.
are always progressing whether you realize it or not and you just you better work hard and hope that
you are on the cutting edge of that and you're not falling behind. Who are the biggest yappers of
all time go to history because I'm already thinking imagine a team with these two players ready
eternal envy and knight I knew you're gonna say those two I knew you imagine like the
would be no one's brain jam that you're in function being on this team I was on I was on
team with one of them and it barely function so it's no way it's functioning with both of
those it's just not happening brother I don't know what to tell you what are some
what are some other yappers I think a lot of captains were like the classic
five-position captains were the biggest offer outside of you are a tempo
controller like an escort archetype yeah those were also the big communication
players honestly snaking was a yapper back he was yeah he really was and I
think he's still a very communicative player but maybe he's taken a step back
I think he talks less as a support than he does an awful. Yeah, it's an off-laner
He was yeah crazy and I think off-laners in general
tend to talk more
There's done, you know, there's a have to you yours very often your dark type for starting to fight sure
You have to be able to tell your team you're starting that fight. Well, I also think their perception of themselves
Is there just the bad boy on the squad?
I'm like the renegade off-laner, you know, I'm the real carry in this game
Someone's got to do the heavy lift no lane no network. Yeah, just a blink dagger balls. That's how I was I think back to you know
There's like mind control
Was a big shot caller ATF is obviously a huge shot caller. Yeah. Yeah, it's just so many class said
The archetype captain from the offline right? Yeah, okay, so you said something very interesting recently you said that you every
maybe, maybe not every, but most of the TI winning squads, you felt like had an off-laner
that was ahead of their time.
That was...
I stand by that statement, yes.
And board, maybe not ahead, maybe not ahead, but in their prime, and the off-laner of
the year or top two of the year, yeah.
And the first one that comes to mind, we go back through history, right, Alliance
whole log right here, changed off lanes entirely right going
Can I take a nap?
All right, Molly's really not concerned at all with the state
of the game apparently killing this is not going well for
Falcons, but you know, maybe take some app and it's all
changed.
But they're going on from there.
Right, you pointed out universe for each he was obviously
one of the best in the world to ever do that.
Yeah, then next up was Wings, right?
He went into TI6 as the best offlander.
What probably the most versatile up to that point.
Yeah.
Maybe he's going to.
Do you think line control was that ahead of the game for TI7?
Yes.
I think he really took playing edges to the map to the next level
and specializing on a group of heroes that enabled the team.
I also think he's one of the first players
that could kind of play sacrificial
or more scaling style to make both work really well.
He was a very unique player for sure.
I think TI8 said, though, I don't think you would say he was,
like, he individually was ahead, would you?
Yes, ideas-wise.
I think OG would.
Like, specifically, oh, OK, so my understanding
would be as a team, they were very ahead.
But I think a lot of those ideas came from him in no tail.
OK.
You know, brainstorming it up, the draft ideas,
the ideas on comms, drafts, strategizing.
I also think Seb had very good ideas
for his own role in particular.
I think he was ahead in itemization.
I go back to some of the games.
I go back to the TI game where he built
hype on Legion Commander.
Yeah.
Who was doing that?
Nobody was doing that.
And so I think in that sense, yeah, absolutely.
His idea is about connecting heroes too,
the fast-paced nature of the game,
how fast you can take a game over.
I'm not saying it was all him, but like,
Okay, it flowed through him to a large degree.
Yeah.
TI 10 collapse, all right, there's a trend going on here.
But how, like, surely some of this is a religious history, right?
Yeah, you're the best off-laner in the world because they won TI.
Yeah, for sure.
But part of that is I think if you're trying to build a championship team,
if you're trying to win this tournament,
and you as a team don't feel your off-laner is in that category,
you can sense it real quickly.
You have to have that confidence, that faith.
And as an off-laner you have to believe in yourself to that degree because the role is very nebulous very easy to lose faith in what you're doing
You get lost in the sauce lost in the meta. Am I a jump-stun in my a
Lane shove hero am I scaling off-laner right like you can do anything and make it work
But you have to have the identity you have to declare again. I think it's what worked for ATF last year
TI 14 right this guy has such a clear identity of when I tell you what style ATF is playing off-lane everybody in the world
instantly knows this guy's farming he's scaling he's anti-carrying he's playing
calling it like you know exactly what his game looks like game goes for 33
incredible style I love playing play and that's the point in hit Dota history
we're at is you have to be that good you have to be that confident in the way
you're playing the game and force people to respond to you you can't be
some guy who's like I'm gonna try and do what claps does you know it's not
gonna work out for you you have to mold the game to your style that's
That's right.
Not the other way around.
So I think those are the guys who go on to win this event.
It's not easy to find and sometimes you don't even know you're that guy until you win.
I think that's true of a lot of champions sometimes, but some guys definitely know before.
And that's why you have had so much faith in team vision this year, right?
Because you think this is the new best off laner in the world.
He has potential.
He will get there.
I think he's the breakout off laner this season.
And I think that has kind of posted them and yandex early on like some some great results
So yeah, you always got a look for that. It's a super pit overall these big lands
That's a rough one half the hero damage of Skeeter
To some mail a little different there with Alchemist win ranger
But obviously that last team fight that was the pivotal woman for the Alchemist to be able to shine and well
He did the exact opposite of shine
But I will say the biggest thing it looks like we're getting close to come back here
When you come back in from this pause one you need to reset the energy to where it was
Okay, I want to be too lax. You also don't want to put your hyperventilating or whatever. Obviously, that's less likely
All right, I'm kind of freaking out right now. I'm freaking out. I'm the hyperventilator. You got to calm me through
Talk me through you got to calm down. Give me an example of what would like you as a captain or stepping in and telling your team
If I feel like the energy is too low, which is usually the case coming out of a pause,
you need to amp people back up a little, you need to say, hey, let's get focused,
wake up, maybe yell people a little, snap at them, hey, look at me, let's get back in this game,
remind us what we're doing, we're making this move, we think they're here,
we think they're going for this time you play, let's regroup. I don't think it's ever bad
after a pause to just kind of reset, have nothing happen for 30 seconds, and then
go for something, because a lot of times something bad can happen to you, because your
your mentality changes a little bit.
Your game, your feel for the game shifts a little bit, right?
And you just want to reset the same for both teams, though.
Yeah, it is.
Your feel of the game is off.
So why don't you just, you know.
But the thing is Falcons are behind here.
Oh, OK.
Right.
They have less to lose.
Not worth it.
Yes, they have less to lose.
So Falcons, they might just try.
You already see Lordoff.
He's drawing the circles.
He's saying, all right, we know where they're at.
Yes, exactly.
And that's what you want to do if you're in England.
If you're Falcons, like you need to remember
where you are in this game.
you're behind, but you have this out time in,
you're trying to use it right now.
You don't want to lose sight of that.
You have an opportunity to try and turn this game
off of skier strength, as we go back into it.
Valkyries with the smoke.
Aspires, they are going to back out of their aggression.
They have a ward that they can go back to here.
It's a nice ward, but for now,
they're just gonna back away, farm up.
R is already out of here, already farming up the top corner of the map.
Nick McAllister, you're gonna stay a little bit more grouped up until they see some more heroes.
They're beginning to show, they're gonna show on mid.
They'll probably find somebody at top lane at some point.
And then you make a move. You either kick some heroes out, you can force Roshan here.
I think that's the risk you play. I don't think it's necessary either.
You go BKBs on your Q4s however, so I think it is a option if you feel
that Falcons have moved away to top half of the map or just giving you too much freedom.
This is sort of what you're looking for though.
You always have this bottom lane pressure either in dominating your creep or fury on,
pushing this lane all the way to falcon's tier 3.
That is your informational advantage on the map right now, and you should be able to make
a playoff of that.
Outpost also increases the likelihood you just mana for Roche on this side of the
map right now, otherwise it's head and top is 2 minutes and it's going to go into
their vision, which I think feels a little awkward.
You gotta make a call quickie if you're in the galaxy
Gonna make the subjective play or you're gonna try to hunt heroes on the map
My bottom here
They can interfere but got pretty fast now straight to Roshan right here right outside the peak
You just killed the mid laner. Yes 100%
G.H. is going to get even more catch. Like, Dubai with the Rada Beto's Gleitner build.
Extra catch. Now we've got a Blink Dagger build up for the Murana. I mean, these guys are going to be moving fast.
I like their organization. If Gleitner is the only one I'm like unsure of, but it makes sense in terms of...
We just want to get some extra stuns and catch to make this lineup a lot easier to function.
Especially here in the tight areas of the sticks that got dropped off the career.
3 of some slots here. Very important.
And they'll give it to Lorna.
Still has slots to utilize it well.
I like Nick Mcalaxy like smoke up during that row, Sean.
They got their position for the team fight. They were really prepared.
Just in case Falcons did contest them.
You should be. You should never assume that Falcons are just sleeping on the job.
They've absolutely contested objectives 4v5, 3v5.
If they feel their other two cores are strong enough.
This is probably a unlikely game for that to happen, but you do not want to give this a crazy opportunity.
Here's the Manta for the Necro. It does make him a lot stronger in the fight.
It's just...
He needs to get a back-to-back dance for Molly.
I think this might be...
I think if you keep him here long enough, they got him in the back, you pull him back in, it's into the shackle!
Beautiful. Beautiful stuff.
That's right outside the base, too, and they have a ward on that high ground.
on that high ground she's a little bit yeah you just swing here so four minutes on the ages
what are you afraid of this is not a great high ground defense line for foul
the fight kind of looks the same if you're fighting here or if you're fighting anywhere
maybe the spacing of the little bit here for a mar to get there for the reaper site that's
yeah and because you have ages that play is not easy
That's new, it's just planting the lauren off in the front, let him, master of high grounds,
hit that high ground.
He's gonna force everybody back.
And it's gonna be the call.
Alright, we got enough heroes back, we're gonna clear out their stridegole as we retreat,
leave them no camps to be able to farm.
Fire butterfly done.
That's tough for Skeeter to go into.
This is the target you want to jump and strideburst down with the fasher build
up.
The occasion makes it really difficult.
Yeah, you can't hit the Windranger with a Windrong, now it feels like you can't hit the Furion with a hip butterfly.
Who are you hitting in this game?
Quite a bounty hunter and reaper him again?
He's not going to win you though, the long haul.
Maybe hit some more Neutrals until you maybe hit the enter button and he's out of the map and traveling.
So, attention, more gold for Lorna!
I don't know how he keeps on getting these wrath of nature's like, even when it looks like Nick Magalaxie is not trying to give it to him.
He still snipes it every time.
Very fat. His net worth counts more for the offer than for the offer.
Who needs two damage? That's how he got the last hit.
Hey, give it to the man.
He knows what he's doing out here.
He's about to complete a hurricane pike after that butterfly was complete.
It was one minute an item, another minute, another item.
Nice lads pick up. That's a cool idea.
Just get more team pike.
Our Falcons really gotta try and help the Furion up here.
This is right. They're gonna go for it in a while.
It seems like not a great idea.
They're still gonna follow it up.
Got the ball just in case.
Lornaus gonna battle this out.
He's not waiting about this at all.
It's got an extra life, and then he's got a BKB.
He can slot in.
So that Stampede from Falcons is gonna have to be used
for retreat and Nygma Galaxy.
They stick around and take this tier two.
Lornaus coming back.
Why not? Okay, just for two minutes here. Should not be afraid of forcing objectives.
You should keep this pace going for a high ground hit with the last minion left on Apes, right?
Don't think you have to force Siren with this Aegis. You don't have a fan or anything. Makes it a little more difficult.
I think you'd rather just choke the map of the Fertil. That's what your lineup's designed to do, G.H.
Got the old setup. In to the arrow. Crick! He's gonna be stunned so he can't get the whole shot in!
They're not in the air, they're in the air.
Oh man, that agonist sets her to fight with the wrath of nature.
Now maybe they can take me as well as the live fishing for the backcube.
Get them into the Glidecaring.
Now pulls them back into play.
And Laura not delivering the damage.
It's just too easy.
One, two, three.
And Alayna ferrets forward.
Make my galaxy in a game two.
Gage destroys.
Yeah, absolutely destroyed.
In combination with Omar, they caught so many just clutch little two-man kickoffs
with up-your-hand connections.
Set this game up beautifully.
Is it gonna be multiple lanes? You can't buy the Nectrophos here?
You just don't know what he's doing in this fight.
This has been a very big game from our...
We're probably gonna see him on a different hero in this game 3.
Yeah, impingri to make it work.
Falcon's all around, right? I mean, it feels like nobody has really done anything.
Pick up my Ilts, first try to make it.
And theSentaur.com on the TPGH again?
He just keeps racking them up.
They'll keep tracing him.
Maureen would have to do some crazy juke in order to get her.
He's just going to keep following him.
And yeah, they're actually going to fight this up with a split off.
Because the male left is impossible for them to win this mid-fight.
Because Maureen is certainly going to be dying up here in the corner.
They can ask Lee to get one kill.
The body hitter is going to be going down.
Maureen is likely going to fall with his crowd.
They chase after the Vi.
Might be able to get him here.
Taking a long time. Here comes a bar, but he's got the reaper side, but he doesn't have the mobility
Oh, let's divide!
Divide! You don't want this! You don't want this at all!
The reaper side trying to get him right now, but now Lorna is enjoying the team.
The reaper side, he finally goes through and he gets the kill.
Let's get her.
Gonna be in trouble. It'll be well worth it if he hits.
Now, see the high ground and he gets the hat.
Of course, Lornaugh don't miss. No way he's gonna miss off that high ground.
Almost level 25 and ready to rock.
A high ground mid GH is going to set up the kill on a Mark.
The arrow does land.
Look at the start storm damage, draining in.
And then it's off.
Doesn't use the shot there to get some distance.
But Lorna put the damage on a Mark, cuts the tree.
It's very swift, gets back to the fountain.
But you can retreat your buildings and not, Lorna.
They'll get the tier three before they back away.
They'll respect the fact that Falcons,
they could still fight this potentially.
There's no reason to do this without the box don't know the out buy back status. He didn't have it
You just have to assume because he's an owl
Little worried about getting turned around on they got the wisdom shrine for Lauren off
So that is level 25 at 35 minutes. He's got the upgraded trance. It's all but guaranteed. They're gonna get megas at this point
The water map pressure to deal with
You maybe get one or two more items here to try and stem the bleeding turn the tide of your fountain
And you have to land a big Reaper kill. I think you have to be able to Reaper kill the Windranger or the Piranhas
To win the overall fight
Crafty neutrals in the tree. Okay, why not think about what you've done
That's the high ground now
Look out
All right. Well, Nick McGalaxy, I mean you got stalled out by Falcons in game one where they played for Roshan
There's no reason why you can't return the favor to them. They're 24,000 net worth lead
You can wait a little bit for Aegis like that extra life before you get Magus. Even if one waker completely got GH also a little 20
So the charge from damage is increased and he has a save for the Reaper
Omar's got a save for himself with an A on disc
So when he's scouting out these heroes, Falcons can even really set up a trap and punish them too easily.
Now fights just becoming more and more difficult.
Anything Falcons are picking up that...
I have Nullifier on the out.
Okay, so...
That is something that allows you to potentially just fall in that first target off the chain stun.
Even through the Wind Waker and some of these defensive mechanisms.
I do think it's the correct purchase here from Skier.
It's just gonna be difficult to connect everything on the target you want.
You have to find the Winranger if you're in at some point.
Take some damage out of the fight.
Winranger might just kill Ski or Trayop.
Sumino has a whole Hydra breath.
He's doing the percentage phase damage that makes it...
How much do you think this item has changed the game
when it comes to these tanky lineups that are so meta?
It's very efficient.
We just don't see as much anymore.
It's extremely expensive to build up.
It's a great late game item.
It also, I also feel like a lot of times you're six slots, you just rather have something else there, you'd rather have an MKB or a Saqanik, a Thedalus or something of this nature.
Not a preferred item for a lot of players in the final six slots, but there are games where it does look very good on paper.
Six hundred gold for five minutes on alloc, that is...
That is rough.
Yeah, it's really bad.
That is rough.
Do you think that Hydra's breath is like a hard count?
like this centaur mark or do you feel like like I feel like it's not actually like it's good
but it's not uh full count no I think often times there's better off with just taking
what I'm giving you, getting what K-doll is for, whatever you think there's better, higher single
target first thing, the high pressure is going to be more over the longer run of the fight,
it can be nasty if you're getting multiple heroes and here's the last desperation score from
Falcons push out drop wards do what you can there's a bounty get the initiation
Be the part out walk straight into this what are you gonna do about it?
I've got a neon this four steps away a well or a brick apart and it smells did some work on him
Skinner shot human again with you basically the ball with the main
Oh something too much damage too much damage
Oh what am I gonna do?
There's no way I'm gonna say that's dead Falcons I don't think they have anything less than a 10
Maybe he can get some hell but low or not but she's going to tell you that with one of the course
What about the other one? What about the support to a super farm?
What about the offlaner?
He'll come through and chase you down.
And what about your pace?
The reason why we're keeping out there is that this super level train just killed your Vegas.
Oh, no.
That fight was doomed before it started.
Well, here comes Vegas, Valkyries.
In for the long haul now with four minutes left on the Aegis.
They just have answers for everything in the D-fight.
And this is how it absolutely needed MKB, yet no shot of getting through the Lunaranger or the Fury on there.
Galaxy, like Ulysses on Maury, straight to the arrow. They finish him off, three dead,
fountains, nothing left, but the tier fours and a throne, they're gonna fall shortly.
Ornall, he's thinking about going for some fountain diving at this point.
Yeah, why not? They're willing to fountain farm you, turning right back around the
sprout, into a shackle. Easily set up.
One or two main combos here they've got.
I don't...
They're going for the kill, but they're gonna call it 18 before Skeeter is even
Dead and we will see a game 3-2 extremely one-sided games between these two teams.
What does a game 3 look like here?
I'm very much just a coming to a game here and I think this game 3 could absolutely be a bar burner here.
Why is that? Since we had two one-sided games, you think my galaxy kind of figured some things out?
Falcons will even enough in this draft going into game 3?
I think there's a lot of small things that work for him in the game in terms of the takeoff the temple
They have off the lanes the way they want to play with three on but ultimately I'm gonna be straightforward about it
I think you put more off in mid lane this guy's gonna cook
And it's a way different game the second time around because he can control the pace control the tempo give him the win condition
Thank my galaxy. I found the winning solution. Maybe it's not heroes. Maybe it's just Lorna
off.
Lauren has provided for so many teams throughout this year.
It's definitely something we have to look towards.
He was finally able to have a showing in mid lane
on the main stage here to have fun,
to have a great showing as that as well here.
It's just one of those things that the Temple of Nygma
Galaxy, whilst we might have been questioning,
they dropped a little bit, Quinn.
They don't believe it's out there in FB.
about how it wasn't so late for the galaxy's lineup.
Yeah, I'll sign my apology.
I was not familiar with their game making the galaxy.
Sorry, Lornaugh.
I've signed it.
I've shipped it.
It's in the mail.
You'll receive it soon.
I mean, I just think it's so funny
when Nature's Prophet gets the ball rolling
in that early game because he stops feeling
like he played Dota at some point.
At some point, it's just, what did he even do?
Lornaugh's really big wake up in this game too.
He didn't want any of what happened at game 1, because there was no threat against the neater's puppet, like the Hustler from that game 1.
He had 3 reigns of that early game, he TPed bottom, got a kill, he got Doven on mid lane, got 2 kills, TPed top, still the Alchemist.
And because of that, his team were able to snowball from the side lanes too, and that bled into the mid lane.
And I feel like a big part of the support is this game, because they don't have an easy game to play like, I think neither Bounty Hunter nor Murana really have like, that nice setup for them.
bounty has the dark street that he can play through, but especially the marana like he landed a lot of arrows on like bounty hunter in the
Stones and I'm sure you guys at home like there's no way you guys could have done that.
This is GH like truly being an amazing player.
You think about it, that's done, it's got a full stun.
It's this micro stun that he's able to time the arrow in the perfect direction like this supports for sure.
It's so easy to sit here and be like a nature's prophet that's very global.
It's a great game. It's great.
It joined team fights. It was
able to farm. We still want to
give it its flowers, especially
that showing on large enough, but
Amar had only played three
heroes when it came to a position
for throughout that group stage
that there was that question
mark of, okay, well, he's
probably just going to go back
to it. We don't really need
to target it, but there is it
going to be anything new that
comes out, and he rocks up
and there's one game down in
the best of three this
upper bracket, and he goes,
I'm pulling out the bounty
hunter. It's been the
flavor of the day, and I'm
comfortable and confident. Yeah, they look really good against Falcons. I mean, it's
looked like you said it's looked good all day. The hero just seems to be very
powerful for whatever reason. It's just good against the meta. Sometimes heroes
just pop like this and you have to just respect them before you understand
them. Like they may not fully get why it's so powerful, but you can feel that
we kind of got ransacked this game and it felt really hard and maybe we
just need to get rid of this guy because we don't we don't know how
to counter him yet. He's too new to the meta. I mean, I would say we as
as a panel definitely underestimate.
Whatever Nygma's draft was,
I didn't think it was gonna play out this way.
Yeah.
Because you don't win a game like this
unless your draft is good.
So whatever they saw, we didn't see,
and that's props to them.
Yeah, as that game unfolded,
I think that Sonic Hunter played out really beautifully,
and I would attribute that to,
because the rotations from Nature's Prophet
in the early game were so successful,
what ended up happening was that
all of the tier ones were taken,
I think, in under 12 minutes.
There was no tier 1 bottom, no tier 1 mid, and no tier 1 top.
And the reason why that's an issue is if you're with a falcon strapped.
Necrophos on a side lane and Alchemist on a side lane, they need their towers because they need access to camps.
They need to be able to farm.
And if their towers are around early, then a bounty hunter whose I am top is walking into your camps and taking them away from you.
That's what losing your towers takes away from you, and that's why the bounty hunter looked amazing.
I also remember something that we used to think on my code for a very long time is that
nature's profit is just fundamentally good against falcons because falcons likes to play the split map they like to be like a little bit all over the place and
Profit essentially just whatever move you do that you would normally only want to bring two heroes to you just get a possible one for free
Either through the old or through him also help running a showing up and that was something that you guys said was so
detrimental for the side of the galaxy in game one is they didn't have that right because of how rough
The landing phase went for the nature's profit
It felt like he was playing catch up this whole time this time around he gets a much better lane for himself
The side lanes are going strong as well
So a mid-nature's profit feels like it is a stronger avenue for naming the galaxy to play through
But they're punishing exactly what you guys said Falcons love to do and that's to play in every lane to push out as much as possible
And now it's okay. We actually don't have a map
And we also can't push out waves without feeling like someone's sitting around on bus and he's gonna be able to shut us down
Yeah, the punish is absolutely the right word and I think
You look at this fight, man.
Warnov has an incredible BKB reaction to this Alchemist
stun a little bit.
You can see there's some poking going on.
And the Alchemist charging up, and he
goes on this Necropost before too long.
And Warnov is just, man, it's crazy how
slept on this guy was in a lot of ways
throughout the entire year.
And he joins this team, and he just
looks like one of the best men in the world.
Look at this BKB.
That's crazy.
Like, it's not that long.
Like, that is very quick.
And it turns this whole fight, now Alchemist
runs away, wasted his whole BKB duration, has no HP.
Like, it's the little plays like that
game. And I think that's what
they're doing. So, like, that's
the point that show. Niggma's
not just here because of some
strategic thing because they're
running at people, whatever like
they are in zone and playing
what really well G H is like
9, 1, and 17 at the end of this
game. Or also has only four
deaths like it's super clean
across the board with a lot
of individually good
performances. I think this
fight shows like they're not
they're not winning off some
cheese like they I don't know.
I honestly coming to this I
doubted them like crazy. They
were like by the team I
not only do you not win with a good draft or like like that, but you also don't win a game like that without playing really well
Yeah, that fight brings so many questions for me
Yes, that massive props for the side name galaxy
but also the way that Falcons initiated in it because I'm seeing them know that they're not necessarily at a numbers advantage yet
Malrin is still engaging when their supports are making their way around it when the out doesn't feel like he's ready to jump in at the
same time Mallory does. I'm looking at this and I'm wondering what was the misplay if there
was one or if this is truly chalked up to. Nima Galaxy made it hard for Falcons to want
to commit in that fight.
I think if you're running mid-sunt for that's kind of how you have to play. You have to
go in early soak up damage tank spells and he did all of those things but they're in
a position where they were so behind in net worth that they couldn't make the magic
that they usually do happen. And watching that teamfight play out, it begs the
question of was the Alchemist the right call? You already have a Blink Stun Hero in the Sentor
and what you lacked is damage. Is Alchemist the hero that's going to provide you a damage?
Why do you need two Blink Stun Heroes? Potentially they thought their lanes would go better and the
game wouldn't look like that but if the lanes fall apart then their draft is redundant. I hate
to say it. Yeah I mean I think a big like while that is true and I think there is a
redundancy there I put more fault on the Sentor than I do the Alchemist. I feel like
A big reason why Lord of is able to make so many moves and Falcons can't do anything is centaur as a mid hero
Does not do anything until he has helm blink
That's like I don't know six thousand gold or something with all the small items and necrophos is never really going to TP react
So now you're in a situation where two guys are just sitting there and nature's profit is everywhere
So every fight is a 4v2 or a 4v1
How can Falcons fight back into me the centaur mid if he does not win his lane not just draw not just do
Okay, but win is just completely useless because he stands around presses one our button
once every two minutes while his team gets massacred.
It looked terrible.
It was not the showing that we expected from Falcons
considering how strong that game number one was for them.
But these teams have been preparing for this matchup
for a couple of days now.
And it wasn't just preparation that was on the cards
for them, but it was also expressing and sharing with us
how the feeling coming into the main stage
into a top eight for TI.
The international for team Falcons,
when we arrived here in Shanghai,
there was a typhoon and our flights got canceled.
It only came like a day and a half before the tournament officially started, so Jetlag
was really bad.
And it was a tough start and then suddenly we were facing LGD first round with a stand-in.
We ended up winning that series, but then we kind of lost the next two series.
We understood we were missing just like quite a bit to get to be at the top at least of
the tournament.
So we just kind of stepped up and had a talk together.
So we could actually fix these things.
I always believed in our team that we could always come back and learn from our mistakes
and get better in the group stage.
That's exactly what happened last year at TI and we ended up winning.
I'm happy that we are qualified.
I don't care about the which way, 4-0 or like any others, we're qualified and that's it.
We're still on the upper bracket and I'm just happy about it.
Our next match against Nigma Galaxy is a bit of an old rivalry.
I'm just feeling happy that I'm going to face them, I'm going to help Amar to actually beat them.
I think it will be a fun and competitive series so we'll see how it goes.
In games we're having a good lead but we just don't know how to play the game.
It's just classic Falcons where we always somehow end up fumbling the opening series.
We always drop the first game and then we start solely ramping up and we're getting better
and better for the playoffs.
The tie is going to be very important for me because it's going to be the first time
my parents coming with my wife.
I just hope that I'll be able to play a couple more series for my family who is
coming for the first time to see me play at the international and that's quite
meaningful. I would say the IMU is everything for me as a like professional
player. The last time I was here in Shanghai was in 2019 where OG ended up
upholding the trophy for the second time in a row and that's really set like a
very deep memory in my heart because they were the first thing to win it
back-to-back and now I also have the chance to do it as well so this is
something that I really want to accomplish and do and if I were to
do it that would be like a dream come true. The previous day I did the
and just when we qualified to play open it was like opening ceremonial I was like my
tear was coming from my eyes because like that's was like I was playing for it and
I just wanted to be there because like if I gonna see my my personal in my eyes
Gabon I would be like like even the voice when he's saying welcome to the
international is like my head is just exploding like I actually hear you
know I'm part of it
I'll tell you, these players
every year there's another reason
why I feel like I'm cheering for
them. Sney and Malarine. They're
giving us more reasons the first
time that they're going to have a
lot of family members in the
crowd, watching them here in
Shanghai as well. But even a step
further when it comes from
from snaking here, he's like I
saw in Shanghai. Oh, gee, win
back to back TIs the first
time ever. They're ready to
to win three ties as well. So this man is constantly striving to do more for more people as well.
Yeah, that's just naked. He's a grinder. He's he's played Dota and only Dota since the beginning
of Dota to his existence, whether it be an NA in the trenches or in recent years,
finally getting to the top echelon. I think he is one of the hardest workers and one of the
longest lasting grinders of anyone. I think he is like the longest lasting player at this
tournament him and Chris. So these these I don't know it means a lot to them and they've
been here for a long time for a good reason. They really care about the game. It's a huge
part of their life. And I don't know. I mean, I was there with him at TI9 losing to Hector
farming on Wraith King and then watching OG win and just being sad. And he, you know,
he wants a chance to do that to some other teams.
Yeah.
Yeah. And interviews like that are so endearing to me because sometimes it's easy to forget
that professional players are also big Dota fans too. And they're moved by the same
moments that we are like OG winning twice in Shanghai. And there is someone who sees
that they might be able to do it now.
The motivation is there for themselves,
not just necessarily carving their names again on that ages,
to be another team that joins the ranks in the life of what
AOT were able to do.
But the fact that they have so many family members,
so many fans here in Shanghai cheering for them,
we had these players walking out there into the booths
for their game number three in the upper bracket
best of three.
And you got a question in Sania,
where exactly does the cookie crumble
on the side of these two teams?
a dominant game each way, a 1-1. I mean I think for Falcons it's probably gonna be
something similar. This is part of their strength is we run back the same thing
and we'll just do it better. That is their solution to every single problem you
present to them. It's just we're gonna do what we did last game just better.
And I think for Nigma it's how can we recreate a similar situation because I
think they showed in game one that if their draft does not go nicely for
them they can look like Nigma from three four months ago. And here they
show the Nigma that we saw on the group stage, the Nigma that we want to see. And personally,
I like the Huskar ban. I think that set them up for success. They need to make the game
like as not cheesy as possible, I think.
Yeah, I was thinking that if the Huskar ban comes back in game three, they should just
ban the natures prophet. I think this natures prophet is baiting them into weird drafts
and weird situations. And I think their centaur mid idea versus it is not that
functional.
Yeah, I agree. And I think they should also probably consider this bounty hunter
I think there's a chance that it gets moved up the first pick and these are some of the the questions you sort of juggle with
Drafting is you lost to both?
I think these are the two heroes you lost to the others whatever they were there
But you didn't lose to them you lost about 100 nature's profits now
You're deciding do we ban them both first phase do we ban just one of them?
What what are we giving up in terms of bands to replace with those because you're you're trading things off you there
We'll get other stuff instead
And those are sort of tricky decisions to make you can get in your head a little bit
You've got all the pressure of TI that makes all those decisions feel so much heavier and a little bit harder to make. I think you go one step
Further you could bend the Nages prophet and take the bounty for yourself if you're the side of Falcon
It was a hero crit played a lot a while back. It was really like a signature crit
I think even on falcons yet. Yeah, it was a little bit smaller. I think he gets like very shadowed by his hoodwink
Yeah, but I feel like if there was a more recent time than EG
my concern there is the bounty hunter is strengthened by the existence or slash threat of dark seer. I
don't associate dark seer very much with ATF in his hero pool and I don't think bounty hunter in the
early phase will be as valuable for falcons as it would be for not even close. I do remember
an imbaa doxia game. I think they called gg 30 something minutes and he hadn't completed
greaves. I'm not saying the game is always that dial when he's playing doxia but I fully
agree that he has his archetype. He's trying to recreate this magic of an 11-minute victory
that they got a couple weeks ago with his off-lane Necro. Maybe that's a little clouds the judgment
a little bit. I'm not really sure exactly where they're going to sit for themselves,
how strong their faith is going to be in running that one back or if they're going
to try and find something a little bit different, not tell tale that a Necro is going to
be sitting in that off-lane.
I think the initial four rounds of this draft is extremely interesting. I think for
a lot of series like it's not it doesn't matter that much but there's a lot of
question marks I think there's the Husker question mark there's the profit
the bounty I probably I think if Falcons are on second pick they might even
ban both yeah I think it's possible I mean to be this I also port is is it is
a funny band it's so fully respect because no one else is playing it
support at all so I I wonder if they're gonna if they're actually gonna
to run that back or if they're going to alter to different paths?
Well, there's a lot of questions you guys won and I'm here to give you the good news.
Those questions will be answered as we're getting into our game number three.
Ligma Galaxy versus Team Falcons, game three.
are our first bands going to
fall, which heroes will not get
to see themselves picked up in
this game three draft. We do
have Nigma Galaxy being a first
pick. That is the same as what
happened in game number two, and
so it does give Falcons that
Avenue of this fourth ban here
in the first phase. They
taken out the I. O. Coddle
Ember. That's been consistent
through all three games. Game
two. It was why then this
time around. Is it about it?
No, it's going to be that
So, where exactly are you going to go now, the galaxy, and it is back to that bounding.
Yep, I think this makes a lot of sense.
I think Falcons should have seen this coming.
Oh, sure.
For sure.
I think the Ember Band is a little bit weird.
There's no ending the first pick Ember Spirit rather, so you are saying this is
a future band with the Ember Spirit, and we're okay with you taking bounding now.
We think that wasn't the problem.
It just probably was the problem.
That's their assessment.
I mean, sometimes it's also like you map out the draft and you feel like we'll give them the bounty
But then at some point they're gonna have a problem like they're gonna run the fourth pick
They're gonna run into an issue. They don't have a hero they can actually play
So if you give them the bounty and ban on the ember, maybe ember is for whatever reason that hero that's gonna create issues for the things
that they want to pick
Yeah, definitely possible and the Lena response
I think is he's very chill bounty doesn't particularly do that much to lean
I know you can sneak up on her and potentially try to do some ganks and speed the game up a little bit
But if you have one century like it's it's relatively easy to actually prevent those midganks for bounty hunter
I think it's harder in a side than to prevent them from mid
You kind of just put a century and if you're even like a little bit aware of it
And the comms are good around bounty hunters mistaking might be looking towards mid
Then you can not die to these and then suddenly you reach a point where Lena's eggs
She's flying around and what does bounty hunter do to her interestingly enough
I think as I watched the bounty hunter mother unfold a little bit during this ti
I think a lot of teams are picking it after Lina because they have a read that this hero is good against her
Yeah, and I think it's just the track vision on this hero plus one blink stone like a tiny for example with the toss back
The ability to instantly jump her is their solution to her and I think it's still pretty functional
You have to enable it through the draft, but the Lena pick into it to me says mommy's playing for the lane
He's not going for these centros anymore
He's looking to pick his level 30 Lena dumpster, whatever hero Lurinoff's gonna play and the game's gonna go off of that
But as it progresses, I think the macro is very much there for bounty hunter
Yeah, I think you want something that helps you kill him because you don't have much kill thread
I'm on your own so you want something like the clockwork or
Some dude who just locks on to him and and lets you dump all your spells and so you can just kill it
When he runs into these in-between areas
So especially socks that just running around causing mayhem and they can't actually kill them
They're chasing around forever
You want these fast kills where you insta kill the buying hunter
You don't wait too much time and then you put it back in base and you start the clock running
I would say Lena is like to some degree pretty good at defending your own side of the map like yeah
I think this hero likes to farm her own camps like we refer to them as a Lornoff camps for me enough
Which is like the two camps that you find close to the mid lane tier two tower and
Whenever bounty would enter that kind of space. She has a very easy time just like blasting him off the screen
I personally hate Crystal Maiden, but I know Falcons love this hero, and they're very successful with it.
I feel like you need to be so... you need to be more specific.
It's Alley and Snakey. Every time a patch drops, they're in there running the numbers, they're crunching it.
They're like, Crystal Maiden, can we make her work this patch? Is she gonna be our support?
We need to be able to play. We need to fit her into a draft.
Yeah, I feel like they love this hero. I personally, like, in the last couple of years of my career,
my relationship with CM kind of fell off.
I love playing here in the start, but then towards the end, we weren't very friendly.
We weren't on good terms.
You know what, it's because you were a selfless support player for a lot of your career,
and a lot of these fives who live Siem are very farm-brained.
They want to frostbite creeps, and with the new Siem, though,
they're buying the shard early.
Whenever it's ready, you buy it, and you just get all the farm all over the farm.
You should start making the Iowa selfless, because he keeps claiming that I was a killster.
You had one phase where you were playing tanker and taking all of the farm,
but aside from that, you've been pretty selfless.
Even pretty selfless. I'll defend you. My rubik never stole any kills
Never I really want to think about just like Lauren off in the last game. Anyways
Back to Marana, they ran the same combo as in last game, right? Yeah, I feel like did this
The question I think when you do this you're also kind of saying like I don't think you guys can beat this
Yeah, which going up against Falcons
I think that is a big statement of saying like hey, we beat you with this last game
We're gonna be you with this again
And even though we don't have one of the core heroes I made it come together. It's still strong
Yeah, you're sitting in that camp that with the Lena cm right now. You are wondering
If there is an answer in the back pocket. No, I'm saying like make was running back exact same thing
So oh you're just saying what that thing? Yeah, and they don't know interest profit, which I think it's kind of like a statement
It's like this is just broken. We don't need the specific draft setup to make it work
Which I think they probably like I feel like they that's what made it work
It was everything coming together in a nice way, but they're saying it's not the case
Yeah, it's easy to feel that way if you have a mid-nature's profit getting you sideline kills every two minutes
And then you have an early rules on your landing every
It's been so long we haven't got the zero ti finally we get it Lord of my goat picking sniper
It's a classic response to Lena because Lena is the the queen of outranging you will sniper says well
My name is sharp eye and he outranges even Lena
The lane is very chill, the scaling is very good, I like it a lot, and it's good with
bounty hunter because he's up in your face being the sort of tank that sniper needs to
function.
I don't know why seeing Lina, Crystal Maiden and Windranger on the save draft makes me
think like this cannot win.
It's like too many ranged, just like weak, no tankiness, you know, to them.
I think Falcon said something really fun here, which is because you have this mid-sniper.
And what I mentioned earlier about Marana and Bounty Hunter being able to play their game without setup,
it's because they were snowballing off of the lanes because of Nature's Prophet.
I still think they need setup and they needed stun heroes from Samail on the carry.
So what Falcon said is they took two of his favorite stun heroes for themselves instead of banning it,
and now he's not left with a lot to work with from his regular hero pool.
And I think that's a very cool approach, even though it looks weird.
Yeah. No, I think I think Nigma have really cooked this game.
The first two games was not a fan.
Second game I was proven wrong,
but I think Underlord is one of the classic responses to Tiny
because you've got a ton of percent of damage
and you've got a spell that locks him in place forever.
So whenever he jumps into the fight and full commits,
like that hero has to do,
he only does damage at point blank range.
Well, you hit him and now he's stuck
and then sniper shoots him and he gets arrowed
and you've got a lot of follow up.
So I think they're drafted.
If you look at the heroes, they really work together.
They've got a nice mix of disable with damage.
They've got some beefy boys.
They've got some follow up
And I agree, if you look at Falcons, it's the triple-range scared heroes, and that is not often a recipe for success.
And it's also not a recipe that Falcons likes very much.
Yeah, it's not... We don't really see them play like that.
You know, if they run the two double support ranged heroes that are high nuke damage, usually it's three strong enki cores in the front.
But, yeah, I mean, I think Skeeter is also making a statement for the rest of the tournament run, which would be good to know that he's playing Sun, Tiny, or...
Oh, I think.
And personally, I like to tie me a lot more because it's just a lot more damage in the alchemist and they ran into that issue in last game, like Vera mentioned.
And, but I do agree, like Tiny, he, the way he likes to teamfight is he likes to run in, press the spells, kill one guy, run away, and then survive for 12 seconds and then go back in and do it again.
And against Pick Lord, that becomes very difficult on the Lord.
I think it's time for ATF to bust out Mars.
Mars?
Is it?
Did you see?
I think I think any kind of link sonar I do and or or something of that note because while I do agree with what both of you said
Nigma's draft to me
Does not function in the same way as that game too. I see it as an entirely different draft
There's no ion shell for the bounty hunter. There's no setup for the Marana
There's no natures profit winning you sidelines. Sniper is very stationary
Sure, he can move to sidelines, but for the most part, he'll be sitting mid. He'll be farming
You're not gonna have the same way that you do your underwear can connect and make things happen with an 8-host
But it's not going to function in a way where you have the GPM lead versus Falcons
So I just think that Falcons can correct their draft with one more blink stun and Mingma will still have these issues when I look at it
Maybe I'm wrong. Do you think Mars is that guy? Does I think Mars's tournament is a very
Underwhelming right?
This doesn't necessarily have to be Mars but within that architecture. Okay blink tanky rain with the forward ranger
Press done something to shut down the sniper. It's also interesting
I don't know if it's they respect the smell safely in invoker, but they ban invoker
Okay
So carry Necro I guess it's a good hero against tiny it's one of the tiny
When you play as tiny generally speaking like you brought about the percent damage
But he becomes so tanky that you can't kill him Necro is like the the guy that says like you will never gonna get too
Tanki for me. I can always kill it
Yeah, it's it's very good. I think what Mira said is very true and I think you need to abuse the fact that Nigma
They have a little bit of what Falcotec going on last game where it's three greedy course none of them like making moves
It's all in the supports and make moves and so if I can some way to do that themselves
They have a way to start fights get the ball rolling then I think you can have problems the sniper hero
It's not picked very often for a reason. It's very volatile
And if you die once or twice early suddenly you're just farming forever and you can never take a fight because you'll just get jumped
and die and so
It's it's it's a very different game. I think it's a great point
How do you I feel like playing these supports?
Like Marana Windrunner. It's very hard to get on top of sniper or size crystal made on windrunner
Yeah, it's hard to enter that mid lane like the area is
Very tricky to get to it very much is I think you're probably playing through sidelines
Or you're looking for support kills on the side and you're not even trying to kill the sniper because I think it's kind of
Unreasonable for it to happen unless he makes a serious misstep
Um, the Doom response I like a lot because it just sort of shuts down necrophos is scaling in a lot of ways
He's supposed to be this big tanky boy. He outlasts the tiny he plays a long fight will do and says well
You can't do that anymore. There's no healing
He run into the fight and you try to blob on the tiny and stand next to him
I'm doing you and now the fight has turned the other way
And so it's a very immediate response of like you want to play this way. Well, you can't anymore
And I love the counterfeit to the necrophos. I
I look at these two drafts and I think that
Nidma feel very inspired in their support
hero from how game two went but I think
this game three will function very
differently and it's going to be trading
farm in the mid lane trading farm on
the side lanes and Falcons are very
content to trade farm. The reason why
they couldn't in that game two is their
lanes were crushed and their towers were
gone. That's not going to be the case
in this game three from what I'm
saying. Is there a potential for
shakeup of tempo though? Like do you
see Falcons going we have strong
lanes and if they do well in those
planes we could really see them push that and if a team fight were to fail it's not doom and gloom
they could still go back to that okay we'll just trade farm we'll both see where we're at in another
10 to 15 minutes I think falcons has very good scaling I don't think they're scared about like the
game being slow paced of nothing happening but I think what is scary for them is if it's like a
prime sniper meta gameplay where the sniper and the two supports just like move around and you
can't enter the area that they're in and then they are just shooting down your towers from
of 2000 range and you just have to watch the tower die because there's nothing you can do about it.
I think if that sort of gameplay can happen through Lornav then they have the potential to kind of
snowball this game and take control of it. Yeah I think it's one of those games where you look at
the draft and you can see a world where both teams drafts function and I think so you want for a
game three the last series of the night I look and I think whoever is on fire who's playing
who's playing to their strengths and using the heroes the way that they work because their
heroes work very differently like you said it's not the same game as game two I think
I think I'm just looking forward to see it. I'm contractually obligated to root for my boy cartel. I'm signed by John Sharp. I so yeah
It's not big sniper fan here and I think you I think he's got it
Oh, I don't know if I necessarily agree with Quinn and his desire to see a sniper success there
But the fact that we have a 50 50 on this drop one the most even we've seen in this best of three
Well, that's what brings me excited, but also the fact that it's going to be brought to us by captain SPG
You're too kind. Thank you.
That's right. We are going into
our favorite situation.
Avery, it's the last series of
the night. It's a game three.
It's past midnight. We're into
some D gen hours here.
The pressure is on, but also
these teams are going to be fatigued.
We're going to get weird with it.
Brings you back to those old
NA pub days.
Some of these guys grew up, so
you got to dig deep. You got to
Find your energy, find your focus, believe in your line-up, and just go with it.
You can't start questioning things in the middle of this game three.
That to me is one of the most important things about these very intense, very stressful situations.
You don't want to get 30 minutes of this game and be like,
man, should we pick Necro, should we pick Doom?
Like, you don't want to have these thoughts in your mind.
You just need to be disciplined about it.
Come together as a team, believe in each other, believe in the calls, and full send it.
Because the team that plays with confidence in this game three is going to win.
I don't care about Trink. It's all about confidence, it's about coming together as a 5-man unit and playing decisively.
I think both of these lineups can be really annoying to play against with the super long-range turret heroes
and these Covers that just go in and make space for them.
But there's a lot of room for execution in that. I don't think either lineup is super straightforward.
Power shot.
Coming across the way there, Amar gets a little bit low, but they did the damage to Amar.
And we'll see if that snowball is the lane a little bit because it almost looks like they're gonna start off with a little bit of
Try lane action here
Could be just what you need to get this game three start off the right way even if they don't hit the kill
They'll start off with some better trades and damage. That's for sure
It does leave the underlord in lane alone for just a little bit, but it's against a crystal maiden
Meanwhile the mid lane matchup that's gonna be the biggest one to watch it's born off sniper versus Maureen
Lena, Lena, this is the silliest for both.
We're discussing this sniper before the event.
Who is scariest on this hero?
Who can actually execute this sniper and make it work?
And the two players, I heard most people agree on,
with no one for B vision,
and Lornoff, for Ningba Galaxy.
Individually, they are super skilled on the hero,
and as a team, they play really well around it.
Maybe honorable mention of Thompson,
but he was a stand-in,
so I'm not gonna give as much team credit there
though his sniper is the same.
Sure.
I think what makes a good sniper player
is, it feels like they always find a little extra farm
and they scale a little bit more, you know, fall off,
and they understand how to play around this hero
in the first 10 minutes.
I mean, that is the most important thing
about a sniper game, has to find impact
from the first 10 to 15.
Bring supports to this hero,
find ways to drag the enemy into unfavorable searches,
and use shrapnel, abuse the extra range,
B5 and 0, 6 and 0, 9 and 0.
We've seen this hero run game though, it can happen.
very obnoxious hero in terms of the zone of control. That's what we're gonna see
Megaman Galaxy try and provide here. They have two other heroes that can kind of
frontline and tank some spells between underwater command with gates and the
necropoast just going in. That's kind of what the doom is there, to break these
frontline healers and open up some space, but their gap is pretty minimal.
So this Sniper should have a good time for a long time until the Tiny is
fully online and then maybe you can find him with this Skeeter Jump,
But that's about it
Yeah, if you say comfort and confidence it's gonna be key to winning a game three late into the night like this
I mean you really can't get more confident if you're nick the galaxy for a sniper Valar almost give it up the first blood
But does manage to get away with the invisibility pops of parry fire it gets out first blood
Still on the table here, but on the other side falcons
I feel like they also got to be very comfortable because they've got scale
Maybe they don't have the most signature heroes on every single one of their players
but they absolutely have scale and they absolutely have the kind of style of game that I feel like Valkyne is known for.
Nina can take Sniper off. It's not the best matchup for her, but if you get to the blink later on, you just kind of blink on, blink stun him and try and burst him down.
It can be a little bit of a block of magic. They have some Blink Dagger heroes in all three cores potentially.
potentially, game can get really hard if it goes late here.
Yeah, I feel like the biggest one to use that last big zoom against the carry Necropos,
it was just like, okay, we're not going to let you be able to play scale into late game tellers.
That's not going to happen. We're just going to doom you and you don't have a carry anymore.
Maybe I'm most worried for Smale this game.
I think his scale looks the most difficult, his impact on the fights looks the most difficult.
just feels out of place to me. It's against a lot of long-range heroes, a lot of spellcasters,
a displacement spell, any anti-healing spell in this doom. It's just kind of miserable.
He's gonna have a kill playing phase for sure. Safe play Necro always does against any melee hero,
but Amar here already got Ace Armor. Kind of a little extra tank hero up here, a little annoying.
He's playing aggressive. He's finding...
C.S. against the Necro Force early.
Eventually placed early here, so Omar's rotation is going to be spot if Maureen is not going
to fake anything here.
He says, hey, I see you coming.
Don't even try it.
It's a stable lane phase so far for Nygma Galaxy.
They are top of the net worth of CS chart, comfortably here, so they're getting what
they want for all three of their cores.
No early kills though.
Little sad for the bounty hunter.
Not a lot of courier snipes, not a lot of action, you know what's that big trick here?
You can get it. I think the Maiden is an interesting pick.
Oh man, he's getting a tackle on him!
A big land! They saw the fairy fire and they turn around with another round of heal available.
Samail, not actually that close to dying.
So much sustain for this hero. Yeah.
Really gotta be careful up here.
If you were falcons and you don't feel like some bad double kill, he just gets the region back up.
He has a large launch, plus fairy fire, plus range drop.
So they've baited a little bit.
Oh, maybe it's Amar's getting baited in.
So many heroes are low in this top lane.
Everybody's baiting out their magic wands
and their fairy fires and their lotuses.
Whoever bites first is going to lose.
And it could still wall this lane considerably.
And also maybe see that gate rotation off the crystal
maiden.
It's really tempting right now.
Agent Tray, I'm going to get you another.
Star Storm brings quick low.
Quick low body shot.
Not going to do much damage there.
GH out of lead charges.
Miss, low ground miss, maybe some male can get the hit.
He does, and that will deliver the kill to GH.
He finally closes the distance just enough.
They had to drop a ward to be able to get it,
but it's worth it.
Absolutely worth the first blood here.
You can get the six minute Lotus too, as win ranger.
Either have to come back to lane or go somewhere else.
That holds to be worth it.
Six minute power rune's also spawning,
so where Crick goes right now, he's gonna go back pop.
Gonna fight for the Lotus, Trent deny that,
that does free up the power rune for the Sniper,
with the bounty roaming through mid.
important numbers advantage. And Maureen, he needs to be careful man and up for it too.
He's going to get baited to go up this room without knowing where the bounty is. They're
going to bring the maiden over. Especially with level six. Ah, this is a jump. They're
going to go for it. Clops out of the trees. So I'm down with this radical. Oh, the haste room.
Oh no. Run. They can get there in time. Starts running after him on Mars. Just going to try and keep it.
Yeah, Maureen knows he can't really run so much. The good of light goes back down, but now
Now, T8 is gonna join in on the party, and Lornaff continue to play with that haste, and when he gets low,
Gritz is gonna join in, already using the power shot. He's gonna have a good one coming up soon.
Damage is done though. That's a good kill for Sniper, because he can run back towards the fountain,
and it's gonna speed up his heal here.
That was a really fortunate rune, however, I think that's also a rune that
I don't think you can get the test up top with the bounty off the map.
I think you just have to go bottom with the lean and gamble with the main catacombs.
You gotta respect where Omar is rotating towards.
I was going to say the Maiden pick, I'm not a huge fan of this hero, it can shut down bounty hunter early
It's hard to pop out, just to just get frostbitten. It does give you some extra lane shove in the game
It's a hero that Falcons are really comfortable with. It's not a hero that's been too successful in the last year or so
It's really difficult to make work because you're not that
unkillable support archer-like
Yeah, you don't have some sort of big survivability spell. The shards a little bit, but
Making this general is easy to kill, you're trying to do it in some of these games.
What are the advantages of making this?
You farm a lot, you can buy some nice items and you can also scale pretty well if you get to the full kit.
You do a lot of damage on this hero.
The aura also basically helps you show waves by getting more mana and so on.
This is small advantages.
The field thing.
Triple lane win for Digma Galaxy though.
So, pretty dominant here in this Game 3 to start it off, can't be too upset with this start.
Alright, gotta be spotted by this entry that he is sitting on tower.
Sniper pressure is starting to build up, we're seeing heroes get dragged towards mid.
Falcons need to be really careful, getting dragged into the sniper zone of control.
It can go bad real fast, so, gotta be disciplined here, play on centuries, group up with all three.
Final little pick off, pick off, very nice.
Luguna played and Gaten out of the Underlord, so that is very nice for Falcons.
Really well played there. They did not overextend. Very disciplined about it.
Get the little pickoff and backoff. Sniper doesn't get anything in this intro.
Sniper are still farming well in these matchups. That's one thing Nigma set up well.
I think when you have the sniper, you need to be able to rotate supports too, which means
the two one-on-ones to get isolated. If you have favorable matchups in those,
which they do. You're really happy on the map, oh cool. All right, he already knew about the
sanctuary front before, but still going to dare it to try and get the kill on Maureen instead.
We'll beat him. That was a little greedy. You know there's vision back there. Yeah, I mean,
he already just walked behind the tree slob, they attacked him, but your name goes real
awry and that's gonna lead to the death of, uh, we're doomed. Well, that means some male
doesn't have to worry about doing for a little bit often or defending mid really well in this game
and i think kikbun needs to recognize that and either play around it by going back to sidelines
and dragon sports there and then going back mid or just setting up deeper wards to find the
slina in the jungle kind of playing for the kill in that area yeah i don't want to keep you ever
pull lorn off to sidelines should you ever do that you can with the hero but you better
make it work. You pull him to a side lane it has to be a kill and a half to two
between that one and two with the one core kill or the double. If you just kill a
support you give him some power and exchange but don't think it's worth it.
Yeah the combination of tower pressure with the very easy neutral farming with
shrapnel. There's a way for the die again. It's really hard to run to these areas with the bounty in.
And yeah he gets assassinated but Lorna's not happy with this. He's
He's free-firing but he's not getting those little extras on haul.
The bounty roam to mid has been generally shut down by these falcon supports.
Experience pay-tongue.
Good play-tions this year owe a million bucks.
They know what he wants to do.
He's got a power up for their troubles to Maureen, a region like that.
It is going to be a very fast radiance for the Nettlespost and it is also going to
be a rush Magan and Scepter for the Underlord, no surprise there.
Strong items when they hit, you gotta be able to back up this sniper a lot, but it is
going to be a little while until they hit, which means the snipers, like he's not allowed
to learn an island, he still supports helping them, but if they can't find those kills,
they'll decide that he's going to change them.
Frostbite, and plenty of damage, especially the freezing field that dropped off, I
said.
There's that damage.
Right again.
After G.H. Maureen, Huxley, enters and plies G.H. fast.
He's out of lead charge.
Maureen really could kill him here.
Laguna Blight and other dragon slave would get the kill immediately.
Just the right clicks, he gets run down by Maureen.
These supports are having no luck to get Maureen whatsoever.
He's a straight-up play.
He's a positioning.
How well he played the lane.
Only giving up that one death.
Such a consistent mid laner.
And this is Jigma banging their head against that first wall mid.
It begs that question of, you know, you could have gone to a side lane and then back to mid.
Yeah, you could have gone and enabled this Reaper Scythe to go off on a mark.
Because they could set it up with the stun just like they were doing in game two.
Ooh, that was close.
It does connect.
It does give the extra bit of reach and force to mid.
This is the move I think they should have done after the first bounding to mid.
Because now, if you want to go back for this mid play, the game flow is going to hold up a little.
That does put Marnon on a really awkward spot. There's no gate, no supports to help him out.
He's not going to be running into Stratville, that's dangerous!
That's a tough year to get out close.
But, just taking in here, Power Room.
And the damage on the other side of Marnon is unable to get the kill,
and now he's just going to give up his life, unnecessary.
Now he's going to run his car every time he shows.
I'm not going to get any tracks out of him anytime soon.
It's gonna need the 14-minute wisdom trying to get level 6.
He was threatening the Necraco top.
They had a strong start to see if they could talk if they're striking back, making this early Scirmish power work for them.
Really stabilized this game.
Shut down the sniper potential, not that the hero shut down, but they did let him snowball off the same page.
Hit it with a power shot!
G.H. nice little dodge to the side there.
It didn't get low off of that one, so he's gotta be careful.
Great space for the doom, and they caught him!
That was nicely set up, even strapped the ult there from the sniper to finish him off.
That felt great.
What they wanted in this game, a couple more of those get the track on line, making city
no detection here.
Easily found, and all of a sudden, Marv gets a much needed experience, and they
Get this kill. Oh, feeling to get it. Now he's tied to a Mar instead.
Keeps on getting baited in to try to finish off these heroes.
And the Falcon supports and cores to keep punishing him for it.
To be, it really worked out in terms of shutting the Falcon.
It even works out for the rest of the game.
But I felt like that was the majority of the reason they picked it.
And it's done its job as another set.
Is it even worth it to do that to a travel hero?
those four some off the lane it's effectively getting this big power which
got good fun 20 HP you know what it gets the nine doesn't we get baited isn't it
trying to go for that last hit so I think Falcons are weathering the
program yeah they're playing a lot better than the game to have more play
options are more comfortable they're finding these little extra kill
Oh, it is gonna bait him in underneath these neutrals!
Oh, he's a Reaper-Side, and it finally comes through!
They died a little too aggressive there.
Another Reaper kill.
Gonna...
Give Sumail some extra regen. Radiance is done.
His farm rate's gonna start to pick up here.
Alchins, maybe gonna try and hunt him on this wave with the Vina rotation.
I don't know if Sumail expects this at all.
Frostmite, LSA.
Way to play a freezing kill.
They've got so much damage to throw on him!
and even through the heels.
They've got some now.
She can pick off right now.
That's what this lineup can do.
They have a lot of wave shots
and they have a lot of just the two-man pickoff game
with the Lena plus anybody,
Tiny plus anybody, doom on his own.
There's a lot of threats to consider on this map,
which means the information you're getting off the bounty
is probably more important
than any other game in this series.
But it's a lot to keep track of.
Kind of hard to be everywhere right now
and the threats for Falcons are starting to pick up.
They're at any straight bottom divide you look
like you are in trouble.
Yeah, he is very dead before heroes are running in.
Top back, new drafts, a Marn,
up, and there's one big yellow boom to stop for the road.
Just getting a lot of gold out of this early game
stopping the kills.
Marn, I don't really find you the connection there.
Maybe you will on Maureen,
they're gonna try to chase after him.
this tower really going after two meters away the sun into the air finish
off killing scree taken away from Maori that's a big deal put into Lornaz
pocket all the product of taking down that mid tower this is way more of a
dangerous area to sit around now and honestly out this bounty moron duel has
looked just like a set up stun in the arrow it's surprisingly effective yeah
I think it's catching falcos off guard in the series.
Go after Amar here, Amar making the reed just pop for dust.
I'm going down to drink.
I'll farm this lane knowing that the bounty hunter isn't on me.
He's very interested to see what he goes for this game on the Doom.
If he wants a faster blink, he's going to try and scale up.
He didn't go early Radiance, so he's not trying to hyper scale.
Hags in this game could be a cheat later on.
You've seen it against Necro on the close a couple times.
Makes it really hard to just stick in the fight.
He's locked here as he's getting ganked.
Would it be another try?
Oh, what?
Trying to get the hit in?
He's still got him inside the pit, though.
And then, looking at the reaper, he needs to...
There you go.
4HP, more mana regen.
4 goals per two now.
Everybody wants to cast these skills, but only one of them can.
Anti-Lornoff KS technology with the Reaper.
Big Legalaxy, they seem to really thrive with these global heroes,
where they're allowed to over-rotate on you and it doesn't feel as bad,
because like in this case, again, the war just gates right back through.
A war behind this big tower though, how?
They're standing up for a big move.
They have to get the blink toss back on the sniper.
They're hurting him too.
He's got a hurt key.
He might push him further away.
Hopefully for the reaching field, they can't get this kill.
Well, Mark does die underneath the tower, but Snake King is in a real awful position, and there's no way out for him.
So it's just a support trade-off. The Sniper too hard to hunt down for Fountains.
People working here have a lot of damage on his own, yeah, with a power shot.
He can easily one-shot G.H., but it's gonna be a bit awkward.
I can pass this here too. The Sniper's in trouble.
Defy trying to help him out.
Morn off, though. There's nothing they can do to save him.
The Archie Pipe did, trying to chase the Skeeter Tiny, didn't recognize the blank that was coming in from the Doom.
There's no way to get him out of there, and the King just thrown on Simeo, keeps him out of the fight entirely.
That was a nice ward for Paucus, they got some solid die on him, we'll go down.
And now a bar, he's like, maybe I can go Radiance in this game.
Still gonna find the opening on Maureen, it's hard to make this happen against the Tiny, he leaps away from the initiation and comes here from behind!
What a move from TH! That was just nasty!
He used the tiny two, so now he's gonna get set up on.
He is!
Reapering two, one.
Stop him, shackle shot, and here comes the Reaper. Sight to cut Steeter down the side.
TH gone.
Ah, what can you do? This guy is in zone. He is one of the best supports to ever do it.
Having himself another fantastic Rana game here. Not as smooth in the very early game,
but now he's starting to heat up, really making this Yule stuff to work.
I need some extra moves here, the Breath of Life, Gap gets created, they're gonna get a
tier one off it as well, yeah you lost your sniper mid, that's a blow, but you got a bigger
prize here, it's so funny watching a Mars switch between his item ideas, you know, they got
those midfills, he's thinking Radiant, his two cores die bottom, okay I'm going back
The beacon is looking a little worse now. It just keeps oscillating
They're winning win more they're losing it feels like he's the team fight
Little cast their curve, but it's fine. It means some mail can catch up the more deep part of the track feel just intentional
Extra gold extra gold. That's all you're focused on Lorna is hoping to snowball this even more
This is the dangerous part of the time for Falcons. Falcons have all the scale
But Neigma Galaxy are very much online with their sniper ready to run the map ready to close things off
This is gonna start looking a little bit like game 2 so Avery
Are Falcons better equipped to weather that storm than they were in game 2 or is this just gonna come down to better play?
I think it just comes down to better play
Double hits again from these bounty hunters set up.
Pop out of the Shadow Walk, spun him again with another Shadow Walk and hit the arrow.
The thing is, I don't like Falcon's support through against the bounty once this map gets opened up.
I think early game it's quite strong, but as the map gets opened up, your support through becomes a little funky.
They're not great at locking the bounty down. You're not Spirit Break, you're not Clockwork, you're not Pain, you're not Disruptor, right?
These classic heroes that just cast once on the bounty, lock him in place, and then you set up the damage.
It's closer range between this Shackle and Frostblade, that he's really committed here, he's going to get punished for.
He instantly doomed up, and never goes as near blind with the two muses.
If you wonder if Sumail, not that he can save the blind, but maybe he can get a turn around kill.
Got the peek of it.
Throw the rebirth.
That's good enough.
Meanwhile, Crystal Maiden.
I mean, it's another track kill, this trio.
Track kill for Lorinov, who with the Furion was collecting and all the last hits, now with a sniper.
He's running along with his supports.
The thing is, normally when Nigma play the style, if you're falconed, you're okay giving up some kills if you're farming three wars.
But the issue is it's bounty hunting.
So you just win the network trade off of the extra tracks.
Plus information and rewards and all this stuff, right?
And then the falcon supports have to invest more gold and detection, and it just compounds.
But you can't build a lead with just kill threat style
Against a team that is very efficient
This I know it's gonna spawn with an axe gate available you really have to be careful of this as well
Especially with the information that Omar has gotten considering the fact that he had a rough such a rough start a very late level
Six the information he's been getting is is being valuable, right?
It's the whole reason GH was able to make that move in the first place in the bottom
Why they're able to kill Maureen with just two supports
Why they might be able to get this kill on Fred as well and get to make sure to go for it
Actually, Bounty here is not going to join him. He's going to scout even more heroes here
We've ordered for the reaper Cipherland on the Maureen that can get that one
That's the bigger prize
And the bigger bounty picked up
Now Skeeter is being run down to the track on him
Making it easy for the Sniper to use his range to max advantage
They're really starting to pick up the aggression here.
They know this is their window to take the map over.
Whenever you find a tiny, it's just pre-season for everybody to go in.
These reapers have been landing.
Mansa's gonna be done soon for the next post that's more lane shove.
More obnoxious presence around the map.
And these tracks are just such a big threat.
You really have to be worried every time that fiend's gate is up.
You get found on this, Lena.
You get gated on.
We saw the early four staff from Maureen.
This is not the ability you want to have to go on me, which is forced in my position.
Tiny will have no way to deal with this until he gets BKB?
Yes, and it's going to be a bit more than a half.
They do have BKB on Doom.
They still have ways to win the teamfight if you can land a Doom on the Necrophos, especially it takes a lot of the net worth out of the Nigma sales.
the snipers are a bigger problem in this game.
Like that's when you're just gonna have to address
with overwhelming force.
Yeah, that's the part that seems kind of questionable for me.
You have to land the doom on Necro,
but you still have to kind of chase after him
in order to get the kill.
Yes, right?
That's what's awkward.
And then you're chasing into the sniper
which sounds like hell.
That's the double-edged sword of this Doom Pig.
It really debilitates the Necro-Full Scale,
but I don't think it's a hero
that addresses Sniper Scale.
It's generally a rough match up
You pretty much just have to get really farmed and just send it in the fight in front of the dude.
And if the gap gets re-graded, you're absolutely screwed.
So it's very all-in.
That's where Skeeter is, maybe, the one wildcard here.
What kind of initiations can this tiny find?
If you could start a fight where Skeeter somehow finds a runoff and tosses him in on something else,
get a double hero avalanche, that fight's gonna look great.
Where he has to use his Hurricane Pike just to get a little bit of distance, and then he's got nothing left.
And he's still successful right now and he totally has the Hurricane Pike.
He doesn't have the Shard.
He doesn't have any other defensive item.
So if you do find him right now, he's showable.
Nice, my dangit right now.
It's level 15. There's the Hurricane Pike for the Lina.
So, another poor answer to the Underlord game.
The doctor's just taking a pause here trying to farm up, getting a bunch of four staffs,
getting their tiny to the BKB that they need to enter the engagement.
Amar, now think about going back for the Radiance as well, doesn't want to fall behind in terms
of scale in this game.
I don't know if periods like this are that favorable for Tecma, depends how much they
believe in the sniper scale in this game, being able to execute down the trench.
It is a worn off sniper. He has been popping off this event.
There's good reason to have faith in him that he's just going to carry this game.
Alright, already looking at a site device saying, I've got everything I want now, I'm just going to focus on my scale to late game.
That's a tough build up. I don't know if he'll commit for that, see where he ends up going.
going. Well it depends on if they can keep the snowball rolling off these track
kills but the game has slowed down. Yeah, this third for Sumail. Yeah, very
interesting. I mean he definitely he understands that this is not he's going
to care, right? He's playing for sure. Great space for Lornoff to be the one
to care. You just have to survive as long as possible, tank as many spells as
possible, not be afraid to push waves. Aion can do that for you here. It's
Mixed bag it's very good against Lena tiny one of the best items in the game. It's like
Really bad against a Tf here. It's not solving your two mischievous. That is the hardest issue for the neck post to solve though
So in that sense here, like what are you really gonna get?
Would it not be worth to get Lincoln's?
Think it's just I don't think so. I think you just have to rely on your team your team
Just needs to build four staff clever capes
And it just hails you out the second few pops.
Your best bet.
Well, uh, Omar's not the only support with big dreams.
G.H. has much more realistic dreams of a very fast agatom scepter once again.
Hey, off here. This game goes late.
Omar's gonna be smilin' crystal man cross fight.
Four snap gets away from the LSA.
Of course, he has no run, so he is definitely dead.
just trying to create some extra damage.
They found a flamer!
That's real rough for Lorna,
but he even managed to get the Shaggle shot,
so he's not going anywhere.
Nice ward down there.
Found him on the TP out.
Just a random death for him on the map.
That's rough.
And that's right, like,
that's the moment where
Crits has the confidence now
he's gonna buy a gem.
These little things matter a lot
in terms of your feel for the game,
the momentum, how confident you are
to just go out on the map,
perhaps take an objective tormentor.
So, uh, two kicks up the chart here.
The lean-up.
Okay.
Okay.
The Vayne one got caught, so did have some high roll chances here.
Now we're going to see her.
She pops out of the window.
She seems to lean back.
Sounds nice.
It's really nice with the 15-pound.
Okay, since this action becomes super tanky, it's something that you have to consider
in this game if you're in the game of the Galaxy.
Yeah, they've got a lot of magic.
Yes.
Except if you don't think of this Lena as a tanky magic resistance hero this hero can survive some size
on low HP
You get 70 you can get up to 80% magicers with ag plus all the stacks. That's just ridiculous
It's disgusting so you you do have to be a little careful here for nigma in terms of putting the physical to Lena not over committing too much magic
You're just being aware of how tanky this hero can get
Big man, it feels like things have slowed down a ton.
It's gotta be working against them.
This is the game going falcons way, right?
This is where they wanted to be.
The lead just not as convincing as I don't think this necrophos net worth counts for
a huge amount here.
Yeah, the win probability is in their favor.
I think the sniper is making a huge scale.
I'm just worried for some mail.
He has to play against some really tough counters in this game, but Lena Maachuk's tough.
The spell casting from the supports is tough. The Doom is really tough.
But yeah, he's mega rich with how much is that going to impact the fight.
Me, it's still all about the Sniper.
And the Sniper's the core score in this game.
I don't know, I really didn't find a lot.
Early on, he found a little in the mid-game and then he quieted it down again.
And at one death bottom.
You need another good fight to go his way to kind of kickstart his scale to the
late game. Doctor's just not giving up anything right now. Why do you think it's
that Dota plus has it at 2575? Because their only Nigma Galaxy is not up by
very much and I don't know if I love their scale more than Nigma. It might
just underrate the Helena matchups here. It might overrate the sniper scale
a little bit. A lot of these are just executionally, like on paper, yeah, the sniper's gonna be
a threat, but again, he just randomly gets found by a toss and the whole fight breaks apart.
Yep. Or Lita is able to, with an agonim scepter, you know, later on, sneak up on him,
he can do both of his HP with one go. Same with Necrophos, if Necrophos doesn't get
doomed or dodged, they'll need damage, they can do a lot of work in the fight.
Taking the galaxy to keep going back to these pickups.
Made a good window to pick up after pick-up, and now they're trying to keep that going again, but
maybe it turns into a team fight.
R, out of the back spot.
Ooh, big heels come out, even through the little goot of play.
He doesn't die.
And damn it.
NAMLISH!
It's NAMLISH on the ground!
More of those NAMS credit!
Now we have a trying fire back from the speed around the top.
He can't eat food.
Tossed back on Necroco.
Amar?
Not that speed.
While Amar is in, Amar is dead.
What is he trying to do there?
It's on no HP.
He just goes in.
gets obliterated by Reaper Sight. Yeah just instant sight of from Samail there
was no questions about that one and big opening from my galaxy because now
guaranteed road shot right outside the pit you get a wing like that. Another very
clutchy rule by Jean. He's been ruining some of these tiny jumps in the series.
Every time this tiny goes in he gets the rules and just buys so much time to save.
That sounds like he reacted really quickly. He leaps out of the outlander.
This also is one of the best series I've seen play.
A long time. That's not playing me this other series. He's just in zone right now.
Make you just run a look. Absolutely beautiful.
Already level 15 eggs online. He's going to continue to scale from here.
He works towards that triple arrow. It's always the dream.
That's a really nice Aegis to get here.
Give it to the Sniper.
He's a lot more confident to stick in the fight.
Macrophos is continuing to be big bad and in charge unless you can connect the spells
on him.
And we saw that type of fight.
It's not so easy to just leap in and attack damage on some of these heroes.
Like a lot can go wrong for you, especially around the level you're in.
Crossback and bounty hunter, nice little 3D there.
No deals going in that time.
Carcane be a value of that 15 talent for the bounty hunter, he dies there, but last time they went on him it was tanky, real difficult to kill him.
There's the heart on the necrophos, so another hero that's going to be very difficult to kill, unless you get through him.
Well, I mean even then, be on just Anne a heart?
Might be able to bail out, if he's able to disengage, wait up a...
Honestly, a lot of the fights might come down to how much Falcons could not look for their
BKBs run out and you just get stuck in the pits.
Yeah, that is going to be the biggest problem.
I feel like Falcons back when the refresher, refresh BKB, it would be very dangerous.
Yeah, of sure.
Now that you can't have that, as you said, there's so much they need to get done during
that BKB window.
It is pretty concerning as the game goes late.
It has to happen fast.
They can't get kited.
You get stuck in hits, and Sniper has position.
I don't think you can win that play, right?
It just sounds impossible.
Which I don't think you just do Devine.
The opposite presents itself.
I think that's unlikely because he's not going to be on the front.
He's going to be doing action like this.
Then you have to play Omar.
He does die.
Big look, Alex.
See if he can get something for it.
Look at it play.
On to Devine.
Actually lost that from there.
It doesn't have to go off, but maybe for a little bit too late.
We'll go after this Divine Law of Kill, and we'll crit.
My burn is going to be enough damage, it is.
You saw Mar, he doesn't want to do this.
Underlord after all, game goes off especially.
You have Lotus as well, so you're kind of fading it.
Meet the bigger targets.
They still have a ward down here.
They see everything.
Did not want to jump to Aegis.
Too much of a deterrence.
The other side, Amar goes, Valkyrie is back to farming, Sigma Galaxy doing the same.
Continue to scale up the Lena and the Doom here.
Another DKB online.
Maureen is going to go for the Light Click build rather than the Magic Damage build.
What are your thoughts about that?
This does not strike me as a piece.
Yeah, you've been a big proponent of more physical damage builds on Lena.
I think he's maybe just peeing in for, you know, a skier, built this for me, thank you.
Because if anyone's getting AC in this game, it's tiny.
I think Lena needs to end up...
I feel she needs to end up with a blink at some point in this game.
Or at least an AC.
Agatom Scepter?
That is another route, yeah. You can go ag.
I always think ending up with a panic plus a couple damage, that feels great.
Interesting situation.
Wrecking the side here, Mars is going to have to be taping, you know what to do to take your risks.
Who do?
Good blink.
Docks the game.
That is DKB down.
Which again, how easy is it to fight without DKBs available.
We know they're quick tower during this ages period.
The leap is not growing.
We're niggas during this ages though.
You need to be aware of that.
Get some objectives, you're getting more time for the sniper to build back up, but you're
not going to take Falcons off of them.
That is a much taller order and Shackle will not land and they're just going to fail
all the scenery.
There's nothing to fight for there.
It goes to Falcons trying to get a blink dagger.
Blink daggers all around it seems, GH agrees.
That is a great item.
We're just going to try and build one pretty soon.
I mean, you can better shackle shot initiations from ballroom.
Maureen, did you buy...
I was looking at that.
Yeah, okay, man.
This really...
It seems off to me.
This is not a great AC hero.
If you stand in the back of fights.
It's also just...
Isn't the game where I look at it and say he needs armor.
But if he does have that armor...
Combined with his magic resistance...
He's very tanky.
Like, he's gonna be crazy tanky.
I don't think that's the goal, just to be able to tank sniper hits on top of all the magic damage.
I was kind of thinking there was this weird sort of situation where you had to pop out with that friendly shadow from the Simale.
Jason after Mallory and these heroes are just too fast and seem to even when they get into the pit, it's too late.
I need heroes to connect here. That's your big stunt in this game.
There he comes.
What's the industry now? It's not on the Sentry.
Gator, Harpoon, he's smart of way, but we'll be able to do that in just 5 minutes.
Game 2 is so much about vision control.
Sentry is the gems, the bounty scouting, Marana, Ultimate.
Shadowblade, Tiny.
There's so many of them, I can't even get them.
Kind of just a sneak bite of them.
They have the ward on the game that spotted them.
The reason sight is not going to be enough damage.
They have a track on them, but nobody
able to close the gap.
Kills are getting a little frustrating for these guys.
They are.
That is time.
Time for this tricor to farm their way
to the top of the chart.
Alkins just keep on looking for an opening.
They're going to go for a while to mine here.
Tops them up in the air, allow the LSA.
The fall through is with Maureen having damage.
Big sip.
Oh, whole lot smoother to get that kill.
That's a big pick-off.
It's what their life's supposed to do.
Find the isolated hero, kill him, snowball the map.
Not necessarily just take a 5 on 5 into Necrophos plus Unwars 2,
break space for the Slamper.
That formation's very tough to break.
Isolated heroes get the snowball way easier for all their single target damage.
We're just gonna dodge the same top.
I thought she closed it daddy
It's gonna keep me and they're gonna drop some vision here. They say this is an opportunity of our
Apparently not scared of anything here. I mean, I guess there's really nothing that's ever gonna stop him from DKB running away
Could get chain stun on top of arrow at the site
and the telecom is her fourth color shard
that were the swings towards the falcons for the first time in this
game that's kind of what other ant damage
big my galaxy feels like they haven't gotten the better
power runes a little bit but they will get one on Sabale here
him and Omar gonna lead the charge with the friendly shadow
We'll keep the lanes pushed in with these ratings illusions, just crossing the whole
map.
God, he just played a LAN.
He put it so much for it.
Have high ground lord plus entry here from all reigns, Peter, they bolt out.
Make a quick retreat as soon as some heroes show up.
This is the annoying part.
Or Dave McGalaxy against Falcon, they could be so elusive what they want to be.
They understand the game they're playing right now and it's game of keep away.
They're just stalling up the time.
They're just slowly making this necrophosnet worth the less and less impactful.
They've been needing to find a way to speed this game up or force the fights.
Roshan is one mechanism to do that.
You're about to hit pretty peak necro.
Level 25, overwhelming blank, just spamming out his Q.
Deepa Galaxy, if they are struggling to find pickoffs, is there any point that you say,
alright, screw it, let's just 5-man ball into a tier 2.
Force Falcons to try and fight us.
No way.
Someone's just gonna get tossed.
Yeah.
He's gonna potentially have 5 acts on that fight.
Full vision, they're not worried about the bounty hunter.
You definitely don't force a fight on objective and without any control.
You can maybe force it on Roshan because then you can bring them into a more open area or into your wards or bounty hunter control.
Play off of the pit block in a staircase or something. That fight can get a lot more weird for Falcons.
Going to get one of the powers is complete suicide here.
There's the overwhelming blink for the Necro, but we also have a Daedalus in the game for Steer.
So many of these cores are closing in on their 25s.
There is multiple level 24s right now.
Hawkins are finding a little more networks on their cores,
so big items on all their heroes.
Overwhelming Blink Doom.
Titanic gonna be finished shortly
for Maul Ring with his 25,
and that Daedalus on the tiny.
Will it make the difference?
We got the Flare's quota too.
So much damage on this hero.
Maul Ring trying to beat a little bit,
has the shield room.
Reapers, are you trying to cut it down?
It's not going to be quite enough.
The shield here activates.
Maureen's going to be good for now.
Still poking at him.
The fight's actually pretty much in sequence.
The fight comes straight to Nixx, a galaxy.
The jump in for Skeeter, finish on the Bounding Hunter.
While they're poking at him with the Sniper,
those folks are too.
Skeeter even has to pop his BKB as he backs out.
They have to feed him alone as they try to keep him alive
right now.
He's still branching, but he might have made it.
And have to launch Toss back.
Maureen going after him on.
That might be a dieback for him.
Got him on the two.
On to the Sniper.
They put damage on him.
They came to it with the invincibility he's able to get away.
They pushed back into the pit, very nice and done by Nick Magalucy.
He goes on Alina out of the fight, G8 found him and he's an arrow, big play from G8's fighting.
He's opening up Alina, they can finish him off and it'll be a massive win and they gotta hunt him down,
snaking him up next and Nick Magalucy, the long fight, he draws out and it's all to their favor.
The jumps were also a little disconnected for Falcons.
As the tiny jumps were good, but the Doom, he kind of had to back off, and then he went in on his own Doom the Sniper, which honestly, it's just not the target you want to Doom, because he can survive that.
They're going to play around with here, and the formation. Formation means everything for Dave McGallussey in this game.
Look at the space created for Lord on the display. There's no work close to dealing with it. He zones out a bar, now he's going to throw down the tiny.
He's sitting under a gate in a pit.
He has his two big boys running in front of him.
And by the time you try and turn this fight
and jump him off of a little over extension here,
you do find him with a dude,
but everybody else got so dog.
You can't put any extra damage into it.
Great positioning for Nick McAllister.
Great find at the end by T8 again.
Nick McAllister pushing,
Nick McAllister behind the tier four,
Tater McAllister holding in a more anchored.
Oh, they're grumbling.
The numbers.
So high.
Elkins have slipped up in a big, big way.
And they just gonna be able to close out the game right here and they might.
Just to mail a question, a tier 2 remains in the bottom lane.
Nidmila Galaxy, they can't get Megas, so they will back out.
Roshan's up after all, there's no reason to try and end it out here.
They can play it safe, they can play it a bit more disciplined.
They'll go back to the extra line.
What a read on that moment right there.
go for more right outside the fountain so let's go wrong. But that man right there has never cared
about getting close to the enemy fountain. Duval has had many TI moments centered around that
objective. Some of them have worked out some habits but he has never thrown fearful.
And perhaps the moment in this game, in this series of Galaxies, they will claim another
with a banner only one lane remaining for Falcon.
Name is now for Lorna.
Falcons have found it no way,
despite the network that they pulled back
throughout some of this mid-game.
Despite them evening things out,
they still have not found a solution.
The item increase has not managed
to get them through the formation
that Nigma Galaxy have presented.
They need more ways to get around it
or just punch through the frontline.
They're not doing either right now.
They do have 25 on Tying for Double Tostar, they have 25 on Lena for the extra crit attacks.
That is extra damage to punch through the top line.
It's a lot to punch through. Potential buybacks as well.
You have to worry about the necropo second life with the buy bots into the fight.
Underlord second life with buy gate into the fight.
Even my Galaxy can just throw lives at a high ground to get through the big spells you're likely to do.
You only have one dude available.
Double Lincolns to buy NGH, full pick up the Lincolns in this window off of the one team fight
into more pick-offs and delays of barriers that plus you've rolled a bar of Lincolns that can protect the male.
He didn't go, agg's on the 2nd, he went to overwhelming blade, he might regret that now.
There's also that hex between them on the bounty, you really have to watch the jumps with the timing.
In particular, if you go in, you don't be giving, you get hexed, that can't be the fight.
He also doesn't have a neutral creeper.
He's giving up the way to break through.
He got Hatch, and Hatch!
And Hatch!
Hatch attacks!
And Hatch!
And Hatch!
And Hatch!
He's dead!
Those have five.
A five-back.
Bites.
Nick, my galaxy has used very little for this.
A Reaper's Sight.
That's good enough.
LordHock is still flanking away this tier three.
Putting the pressure on Falke.
What are you gonna do?
Gotta come up with a solution fast.
They made us a fight in LSA.
And Hatch are gonna work through the sniper here.
Maureen had to pop his BKB to commit.
Did he come around for a second like this, or can he get the VKB, huh bro?
Drag him through these blankets and they pop the violence coming in far enough to the spot!
Now Peter March is born, now he's got the-
Oh boy, oh boy!
They just get flattered!
Oh, Nigma Galaxy!
The high ground becomes their nevus once again!
They needed to get that sniper back a little further.
Have someone go in, check some of the blink daggers.
He did not get VKB off on the respawn
and just got annihilated and that Skeeter buyback did work.
He just laid into them on the club.
The second the sniper is gone,
there's no hope of you winning the fight.
But there's no way of getting out.
Just being able to close out this game,
one fight, one hold from Falcons,
and they still have a chance in this now.
Everybody's behind his positioning here.
Like either have to run in and try and
debilitate some of the damage that's gonna come out,
or be confident that he's getting Binkabee
and you're gonna be able to reset.
And that is just the worst case scenario.
I mean, that's an incredibly cruel way for that fight to go.
That you all get clumped and annihilated from the AoE cleave.
They are dead for so long that Falcons are going to get a ton off the map.
That Goldtwin is insane in this game.
Okay, few minutes.
How much will this change?
Like, it's going to be more items for Falcons,
but Falcons have still struggled even with the items presented to them.
They might even get a lane of Barracks here, but they get a couple.
That even stings out to what Bigma Galaxy kind of already had.
Got to say, Kana-Kawahita.
That's pretty big here.
If they don't get a bar to hags, which is also pretty big,
they had a nice timing where they had these Lincolns and Lotus,
and he didn't have a hags.
Now he's gonna have that.
That kind of removes, it removes some networks from their side,
adds a lot to Falcons.
If you can just blink in there with this overwhelmingly sheathed Aoi Doom,
and Bigma can't really get away from that because they're slow,
It's gonna be a big problem.
It's so funny they invested so much to counter this doom.
And there was one window where the doom should have been ineffective.
They had an opportunity there.
And now an Aghanim Scepter to be done for a Mars.
He doesn't care about those things.
That's one of those higher ups that could decide a lot in this series, in this tournament.
They haunt Nigma Galaxy and their fans' dreams to come, but they're still in advantage.
They still have a setup that has been hard for Falcons to crack.
That was really the only time and it was simply because a lot of them were based off of the fact they were sitting on a high ground seat.
For sure. Going higher on is the hardest thing for New Glenners game with the sniper in terms of that position.
There's a lot of ways to backstab the formation.
Abused buybacks, you gotta remember skier had to buy for that by two.
Insta died on the blink into the hikes, just didn't expect it.
Gotta be more disciplined next time, gotta think about it for sure.
Lena doing Lena things though
Really scary hero no silver edge no blink no axe for ball ring does really hurt his gap close mechanisms
However, he just stands there and right clicks them. Yeah, it's right outside sight. Yeah, he's incredibly taking very hard to bring down
There's like almost a 20k gold swing off of that one by ground
Double gems on Falcons, so Omar is going to have to be real careful when he's trying
to be out on the map and trying to scout what Falcons are up to.
So the Biobacs are going to go to the galaxy are huge in the game, just being able to
go and take a fight that doom or lean a kill somebody and you can Biobac and still
win the overall engagement.
I mean I feel like it takes an extreme level of confidence to utilize Biobacs
when you're pushing into the enemy.
If that situation is also very difficult to do it, I agree something around the Roche on pit or something though
A lot of games of Dota and outside of someone's face just win that fight they feel they have to commit
He must go into distance though both high grounds part up to break when you have these really long-range turret heroes
Scotty being built up for the sniper, which will be
Let me make this hero even tankier. We'll be rather debilitating for any of these heroes trying to close the gap this extra
Effect to begin strange heroes got a shrapnel talent to yeah, it's a lot of extra just vision control in the team fight
Be nice talent
Be slow though. This sniper is not very mobile
The reason the formation matters so much
So we had this this bug not too long ago where the Tatalus and the crit damage
kind of messed things up. It's fine now. So these Tatals are gonna hit real hard.
So the tiny 5-act cooldown for three minutes here, if Nygma wanna try and do something with it,
It's just tough with...
Roche is not available. How do you... you're not just gonna force high ground. It's insane.
Maybe you get a fast Roche spawn though.
And I think Falcons are gonna be tentative to contest that without two lives on the finding.
Certainly to be the most ideal scenario, but maybe it's possible something just kind of shows up.
They can find a pick-off.
Fishing arrows perhaps. I also think the Moron of 25 is huge.
It's a really impressive talent, the triple arrow, they got 25 on the underlords with the extra of...
It's root to fed over the DPS, but I think it's fine this game. I don't think the DPS matters too much.
Probably not landing it anyway.
Like these pits are going to be effective at some point.
The fight is not going to last just seven seconds, it's not going to be just a BKB duration.
The sniper gets jumped.
It's all in the sniper, he gets jumped, the fight's over.
He's getting on the pink, next follow-up site.
Marv making trouble, line to be the BKB.
He's going to make this way away, they've got a track on him still to put damage on him.
He can't blink away.
Got him in the pit once again.
He's going to blink ever.
It was a way for Scythe to get out of date.
They've got nothing.
Ooh, I thought you were going to be overstepping on that chase.
But you're able to connect the necrophos.
That was a good kill.
to seven. Yes, under 14 goals for that kill. Right as this rose spawns, however, it's a
long spawn. That is unfortunate for, I think, my Galaxy. They do have control of this amp
damage, so they can kind of hold it and have it if they really want. It's just
door enough. Just get it instantly activated. Hey Scotty, you can almost buy
that out right now. I'm gonna look for something here. Use this bounty hunter
They're sure to give an extra shadow blade to the sniper.
Pretty nice for him to engage.
They try and surprise Falcons on their high ground.
He's aggression.
His name is so aggressive when they're confident.
I wouldn't be surprised if two male just blinks in here.
So they, like, it's anything's on the table.
Big McGallagsy, this could be their finest moment,
or it could be another throw on a high ground.
They will retreat.
They don't see the opportunity.
Falcons doesn't give it to them.
They smoked up on behind their tier fours.
They really made the read.
Nigma Galaxy was trying something there.
You got to play for Roche here.
You got to be disciplined.
I'm sure somewhere in the back Roche
was sweating right there.
Please don't.
9,000 gold on Samail.
He's thinking about buying out a full Wind Waker.
I do think Wind Waker is your best tool in this situation
to try and get away from the doom.
He's almost too rich for his own good though.
And we have 10 buybacks available in this game.
Outpost control is available for me for Galaxy.
That's a big deal here for this Roshan.
Gotta hold this game.
10 buybacks fight though.
We're back to one, two.
I think this is where-
I'm gonna go for this one.
This isn't theory, we're Underworld shine.
He's super laking Teamfight 3 and Volta lives
everybody that you know the fights gonna be super long the second time they
go on with lives they don't have BKB's
They could be potentially, while Rean surrounded by too many heroes, he's not making it out of here.
He delivers one damage, he can, hopes to kill Omar, will not have enough for it.
Will he buy back to try and play for this Roshan?
Snake is trying to get away, but Marko he gets out.
He's able to chase a friendly toss from Skeeter, trying to get Snake King out of here.
Snake King, who wants to end toss over by Skeeter, but Woy brings away.
They got Snake King out, they kept some heroes alive.
They got buybacks out of some of Nygma Galaxy.
But, make my galaxy have control of the pit. They will take this Roshan.
Lornoff canceled his TP. Did not like the musician who was going to end up being on the outpost.
I think it was a wise call, but it didn't mean he had to get to walk out for me.
If he gets Aegis here, make my galaxy here okay with his exchange.
If they get double support by back, that's actually from here.
If they get the second life pure sniper.
That's the power of Lena.
If you get banned by the Sniper, you can get that handle.
Roshan is trying to get to the other side.
I need it!
Right now, please wait real fast!
They do not let this get away, fortunately.
The Pit will hold him back.
He'll get all the items.
Okay.
If Roshan managed to make a sprint for the other side,
Mountain's was lying anyway.
These are big items.
You needed Second Life on the buyback for the Sniper.
The banner you need to go high ground.
And Refresher shard.
Retempting to leave it for two male gear for double Reaper.
It's solid on Underlord as well.
It's good arguments for both. Just depends how you think the fight's gonna play out, but I see too many keeping this.
Finally, the Scotty is done there for Lorna. He had to hold on for my back.
And we saw that Wind Waker for snaking a huge item in his game in terms of dodging the Reaper's Scythe.
The Scythe's have got a problem. They don't have a hard save for them.
Okay, well you got the extra life on the sniper, but are you willing to use it when that sniper
doesn't have fly back?
It's...
They're alive.
He dies twice.
It feels like Nick McGalaxy will lose the game off of that.
Give me smoke.
Proactive.
From Valorant.
They're not going to wait on the high ground.
They're going to try and catch Nick McGalaxy off guard.
Not expecting this.
Right now.
Trying to get a pick off.
Huge, have a read of this?
Oh, they got caught by the avalanche.
They caught them up in the air and waited for the lead.
They got the pick. Not a huge one.
Not something that necessarily will change anything about the state of the game.
It's just going to cause a big, by the way,
a minute and a half here before doing anything.
R2 finished for fresher as well, so that's a big deal.
Big deal. Now those long fights look a little better for Falcons with double Doom capability.
You can pop one early, run somebody down.
Maybe you kill the Necrophos, he buys back.
You saw the Doom waiting for him again.
That can be pretty brutal to play into here.
And of course, 60-minute items.
Maybe a couple minutes away here.
You think you have the stronger role of potential?
And wait for it.
Avery, if you're Nigma Galaxy right now...
I don't want to be Nigma Galaxy.
That is an incredibly stressful situation.
Go high ground with the Aegis, no Bioback.
Because it is almost five minutes with that.
Otherwise you're just kind of wasting the Aegis.
Do you want a total reset here?
Do you feel better for that?
I think if you make the Galaxy go high ground now,
it will not end well.
I think triple core Bioback being available with tiny toss
and double two defending that position with vision advantage.
I think you can kill the Sniper twice and I think that's all they need.
I think it's too scary.
I think the way you win this game is taking a flight outside of Falcon's base and getting four Bi-Vacs.
Once core Bi-Vacs are down, then you can go for that Hive.
Which is why it was so crucial that Falcons in that fight only had to use support Bi-Vacs.
Yes. I don't think the support Bi-Vacs are enough.
It don't matter because the two supports don't have to initiate or do anything.
They're just going to sit in the back.
He can find him outside the base.
This kind of situation is happening on multiple heroes.
How are you doing?
He's about to get away.
Jump, plush through the tiny.
He's coming out of here.
We do.
That's locking down the hero.
He's still watching the dude.
He's doing it.
He's trying to help him out.
The others protect him.
He's down for now.
And Amar just walks in place.
Has the pop and his VKB.
And makes him assassinate.
He didn't see that arrow coming to him while the assassinated.
I can't look at him.
He jumped towards me.
He's an athlete.
He's a skater.
But he can't get away.
He's down.
He cuts him down.
The pig almost catching the dude.
He gets away the time you just got melted by the necropos
What a clutch arrow stunned the doom full duration. He's getting held it down
That's the bail in the fight about to be assassinated LSA
They canceled it. They do have that refresher on a mar
It's straight to the high ground
Another four starts right to get him out, out, out, out.
Maureen running, he's running, he's running.
He's back to the fountain, he's good for now.
Staking, those two are in his eyes, he's bleeding out.
Hit him on the floor, the floor.
Oh, he's in trouble.
Up in the middle of the hill, he's down over.
Lorna stops the next track.
Maureen tries to stop him, he's top boarding right on top
of the other side of the bike.
Another initiation, more damage flowing in.
Lorna standing his ground.
Maureen, the board's then pushed all the way back.
Come on, another initiation.
And he will not start steering.
Maureen, he goes down, stands to the right,
and he's trying to do the arm up that he can.
It's over! It's over! It's all over!
Make the Galaxy!
The Manets gets a victory over thousands!
And will stay in the upper bracket!
One they win for this team.
Pushing it to the exact 16-minute mark,
they were not going to wait for neutral items in this one.
They were not going to wait for some sort of five-ac opportunity.
They got the fight outside the pace.
A single moment in this game where you get a chance
to catch falters off guard, they take it, and they just jam it all the way to the throne.
The oppression.
We've talked about it time and time again.
How many times has it backfired for this squad?
And when they needed it to go right, the most, perhaps the biggest series in the team's
history.
Sumail just blinks to the high ground.
It's an essential play for this man.
And it works out because you have worn off to give you that scale, give you
that edge in the late game fights.
a series what a game three and what an upset probably for a lot of people out
there doubting this big but galaxy squad are they real are they a fluke how
good is that really groups right all okay you beat spirit but everything else
was kind of fake yeah play up against the best teams well they just managed
to beat Falcons on the main stage they will stand the upper bracket comes
back to some of that experience right? G.H. Simail. What a fear. If Nick McAleksy has
lost this, right, they go down to the lower bracket, maybe they lose that one there. And
that would have been an all-time low for Simail and G.H. But the experience showed in this
game three. G.H. sick plays throughout this series. I think he's empty. Simail pulled
out the moves towards the end that were necessary for them to be able to get the
victory. A crazy game three for Nick McAleksy. They get it. Let's go to the stage
five hero wiped and immediately was like oh no not again I want to know what was
going through your mind as you recovered after that
I believe the fans who watched the last game will remember that they were eliminated by the 5 players in the last game.
All the fans in the whole world are watching, they must be very worried about them.
I want to ask them how they saw the defeat of that team.
To be honest, we didn't even flinch, we just said we have two racks, two glyphs,
you don't worry, they could take one racks, we didn't care.
To be honest, we didn't even move a bit, we felt like we've already made the wrong way for them.
Even if we were to break their path, we didn't care about it.
I guess that kind of answers my second question because I know that this is your first time making it to TI playoffs.
Last time your run was actually interrupted by your teammate Lornaff on Aurora ended that top-8 run in 2024
What's it like finally being able to be in the booth on the stage in this arena in Shanghai?
This is the first game on the stage of Divide's TI eliminated
He was almost able to break through the game in 2024
But he was blocked by his teammates, Lornaff
He was the one who was in Aurora, but he was the one who won them and entered the elimination
So I want to ask him what it feels like to be a teammate with Learn of the Team?
Everything feels great. Everything feels special.
My teammates are great too. I enjoy the game here.
I think this stage is great too.
We've seen you around the hotel.
We saw that you brought your daughter with you.
Years from now, when maybe she's a teenager
and she's like, oh, my dad's so uncool.
I was wondering, do you have a message for her
in the future that you'd like to share?
I would tell you, try and be happy, follow your dreams, it works for your dad so maybe it will work for you.
I will tell her to keep her happy and pursue her dream.
For me, I have achieved all of this.
She is effective for me.
I hope for you too.
Let's give the applause to Dubai.
Thanks for bringing us such a wonderful game.
Thank you.
Such a beautiful and sweet message from Dubai.
And just phenomenal game number three from Nygma Galaxy.
Galaxy keeping their crew like that. Of course, every Nigma Galaxy fan out there definitely their hearts at least drop even if
They didn't necessarily flinch themselves
I thought is this gonna be if are we not gonna see Nigma Galaxy be able to get a game through winter themselves
But my goodness it looked phenomenal when we got into the motions of this as soon male necro
Just I don't even know necessarily how to describe it in failure because of what he was able to do
I mean this entire game. I was just flipping between they lost no they won no they lost not over and
I mean this was the perfect kind of game three right like it's what you want to see you want to see two teams go
Battle it out. You have almost from both sides where like it kind of looks good again
But then in the end, you know
Sniper triumph. I feel like more than even Necro Necro was amazing
But once again Lornaf is has this ability to make every game just it just seems like it's all about him
Yeah, this was honestly in terms of gameplay, but I think in terms of like mental fortitude and the resilience like him saying they weren't too bothered when they get wiped here.
I think that's a big sign, but also just that it's a main stage game, making my thinking, I don't know, the recent decades, a team that whenever it comes down to brass packs, they crumble.
And this is the first time in a long time that I can remember where they didn't crumble, where they beat the team that was in everyone's mind favored.
I'm sure very largely predicted as the victors and they said you know what no for once
We're not going to be trampled over. We're not going to throw up the high ground
Let me be a little but we're gonna win the game anyway
Yeah, and I think that is that's like a huge step and a lot of like it means maybe they actually have a chance to do
Go further than just six. Yeah, the addition of war enough
So this team has changed their identity so much in such a good way where in the past
The fear for any name with that was I'm going high ground your heart would drop
you would feel every nerve and main your body just be united and anxiety and fear because that's usually where the
Throws happen in the weeks ago, but this version of nigma at this TI they're disciplined
They play for late game the way that Lorin off like plays for GPM actually kind of cascades to the rest of his team
And it's just about outspilling your enemies and executing and they were able to do that versus Falcons of all people
That is no small feat. That is incredibly impressive. That's so sick
No, for sure. And I feel like they, what they got more than anything in Lornoff is a, is a game closer.
They have a, they have some, they, and it reiterates what you say. Like they just, he is the guy that's going to take whatever they do and win the game with it.
And I feel like what's really cool about the series also is I feel like game two was a glimpse into Nygma of the past.
That's how they used to win games through pressure, through like this high tempo. It wasn't necessarily like just like fall back and hold our side and play defense.
I feel like game two they also got to show that their old concepts can work and there are situations where that can happen and in game
Three they show that their old high grounds can happen
Even though they don't work and then more or less so brought it back and kind of like close the game out for them
It feels like there's faith in more than necessarily one core of nigga galaxy
And I think to some degree that has seen what they've been lacking for so often
The vibe isn't this off-laner that you look at and is going to win you the game
But he's going to be stable right giving him a hero like on the lot
He's going to be able to just be there when a call like Sumail or Lauren off needs it
And then the flip side is I just love the limit testing that Sumail is able to do on a network
We've seen it falter a little bit on in terms of a hero about how it's early game is if you can snowball it or not
But also making sure that you're not pushing it too far where you're overstepping
What this hero is is able to do and so it's male even in the last clip that we saw that where he
he blinks up into the high ground despite that tier 3 still being up, you're like,
whoa, this is Carrie Simale and I'm ready to see more of it at TI.
Yeah, living testing is a great word for it because even when he was a mid-later, he did
the exact same thing on his heroes. He would always play to the edge. He would try to
make solo plays. He would invade jungles early and be put in situations where most
other players would crumble. And to have that quality go from mid to carry is such
an asset, I would say, because the current carry matter requires a lot of limit testing.
And we saw it in Skater as well in his tiny, his ability to hold on to the BQB for the
last second, finding the jumps and going in and out. It was just a matter of who limit
tested better in that sense, and Sumail came out on top.
I feel like it even ties back to remaining things. I don't know if you guys remember
that it's so long ago. The four of them, Crit, Amar, Sumail, and GH are all playing
at like 10% HP for the entire lane. Like, never has no mana. They're all just sitting
a 10% HP trying to find the kill. So it definitely was like a theme for the entire game for him.
I think, I mean, it's just who he is.
Yeah, it's just awesome to see. And I love that you mentioned Divy because I think, especially,
I mean, you see Sumo on the screen, but I want to talk about Divy. A special shout
out to him, I think, because he's one of the most improved players, I think, over
the past couple of years, went from someone everyone thought was honestly just like a
laughing stock of Joe for the player to someone that is performing very well and
very consistently, which I think was his biggest weakness was that he had horrible games
that just like lost to the game single-handedly and he's not that anymore he's coming into
games he's playing consistently playing well he's doing with the team needs I think that's
such a hard gap to bridge and I think he deserves kudos for improving at one of the most difficult
areas in the game to improve which is consistency.
And then you take it one step further because the support that he has with him is a bounty
hunter and the way bounty hunter plays is he doesn't want to be with you so
we've got to buy this off-laner who will coin him however you want but in this
You can't can't contest the fact that he has been consistent and he's been able to hold lanes on his own
That's what's enabling the bounty hunter even more to pop off the way that it has been and on the topic of the bounty hunter
If we look at this graphic, this is his impact and stats at minute 15
Which we're not ideal especially compared to that game too or that hero was the king of the map at this minute
And it's so cool that this hero despite having such a rough start and not being able to accomplish much on the map
All it took was the level six timing playing with GH on his marona and they were able to bring the early game back and
Create space for both of their cores because when I look at who set the tempo for this game
It was actually GH on marona and Omar on this bounty
GH honestly felt like he had a magnet attached to his arrow. He was just hitting them without any sudden
He just ought to see like I don't know. He's playing unreal. I feel like
I feel like we're allowed to have these comments here, but you can tease KDA just under his
name 04 and 04 out of 15 minutes, and you're just like, how is there being that element
right now of the supporting of the two of the confidence, but it answers your question
and say to where you're like, the bounty hunter and the marauder are just as impactful
even with that and it's. That sounds fine, by the way, they want us to leave the arena.
This thing shows over. Go home. Go to bed, especially everyone that is watching anytime
that we're going to quickly leave you with the schedule of tomorrow. It's going to be
the little bracket starting off. I'm wearing off against new boys. Liquid and Falcons after
such a late night are going to have to have an early rise for themselves. Spirit, vision,
and is Yandex and Nygma Galax, who have very much themselves asleep in there. Very
Quickly your favorite series all of tomorrow of day number two for main event without top eight
Elimination spirit versus team vision. I think I'm the most okay. Don't care. Why mirror
Okay, don't care why you're next person a month
At least you're willing to change it up for me. It's the eliminations
We'll see which teams are able to push through a date number two all the main stage here at TI 15
But now we'll say goodbye and we'll see you guys same time tomorrow for day two