I'd like you to make a bit in with our thoughts
And I wish you and me
We'll have it together so easily
Make you find me, believe in me
I'm always loving you
I like my eggs over easy, she likes her scramble rod, so we strike a deal with our morning
meal, but we kind of see eye to eye.
We lost a mile of the cocktail
Idol for whiskey and dry
There's no common ground
When the drinks come round
Yet we find a C.I.G.I.
We're so magnetic
We're both apart and yet we're the same
Don't know who said it
But it says don't come back
Opposite such trash
She favors Paris in springtime
I'm more New York into water
Some ballad days we go separate ways
Still we've got to say hi to her
Yes sir!
We're so magnetic, we'll pause apart and yet we're the same, somewhere I don't at it, but yes, there's no go fast, opposite the track, I like the ball and it's a good thing.
We don't analyze, we just compromise And we kind of see eye
As we give it a try Yeah, we kind of see eye to eye
I
Got her as she married gentlemen let nothing you dismay remember Christ our savior
To see this
I've got a heavenly father, a blessed angel came,
An unto certain shepherd's brought the tides of the same,
How that in Bethlehem's grove, on the Son of God, my name,
When they came to Bethlehem, the rogers said,
They found him in a danger where they'd be haunted and feeded
No marry, no endowment, no luck
All the kind he does enjoy
All the kind he's come from far
I rest you merry gentlemen than I think you'd say
Sometimes I'm wrong, Fusion and rights, The reason we get, we make the most every night.
I take it back
I lock it light
Opposite still tries
To make love most every night
It's just a fact that life
That man is white
Sometimes disagree
And I'm sure my dear
The end of the revolution's game
Come on, make love to me
Whether I'm wrong
Whether I'm right
Or just we can
We make the most every night
Why, sometimes disagree
I love you too, my dear, it goes with the church's creed
Come on, make love to me
Don't see eye to eye
We never fight
And you're too reasoned by
We make love most every night
And here's the reason why
You make the most every night
Hey little honey, I've got the money
Let's blow it all
Come on the baby if but some babies let's have a ball
Let's make the tower with all my breath there's just no end
If I won the lotto I'd make my motto
Spin, spin, spin
What's saying if we go take some of my dough?
Let's go
When it comes to pleasure, come out of the measure
Be all strong
Who knows how long this will last?
For now, let's have a blast
It's fun, yeah, you know it
So let's go, go and fall
I've got the nail that I can't share so let's get on
Come on my honey, let's take this honey
Let's have a go at all
Who knows how this will last
For now let's have a blast
It's fun, yeah, you know it, so let's go blow it all
It's fun, yeah, you know it, so let's go blow it all
In Rome, on the seven hills that's Rome, the Italian thrills,
because love is alive when you're roaming in Rome.
Rome, where the type of flows, yeah, Rome.
Michelangelo's in Rome, the eternal town,
Overn in satin and old names Latin grown Like a symphony, it's home
To the bourgeoisie, who put the world in romantic hands home
It all burned down, as Nero just fiddled around
But right here, right now, 2000 years on, there's still no one strong in Rome.
Where the fashion kings all wore, where the pastor's all homegrown.
And the guys all stared while they compare what the young girls were in Rome.
With its thin lip bars and knights
Of a million stars
So get me across the Atlantic
Let's all go and some manic
Who put the robe in the mandate?
That's Rome
I'm masking
Who put the robe in the mandate?
That's Rome
10 Rome
The holidays here to greet you
And it's coming around to meet you
Well let the holidays carry us away
Yeah, to carry us away
So, what do you say?
It'll make all of our wishes come true
We'll take a winter stroll
Footsteps in the snow
Won't you take a winter stroll with me?
We'll see the lights on display From Main Street down to the Bay
This holiday
Hey!
We'll take a winter stroll, footsteps in the snow.
We'll let the holidays carry us away.
We see the lights on display
Everything starts today
So let the holidays, yeah
Let the holidays carry us away
The first day of Christmas, my true love gave to me
A potritch in a pear tree
The second day of Christmas, my true love gave to me
Two turtle ducks and a potritch in a pear tree
The third day of Christmas, might you look at me?
Three friends and two turtle ducks had a party in a pantry.
In a pantry!
The fourth day of Christmas, might you look at me?
Four calling birds, three French hens, two turtle ducks, and a sausage in a pear tree.
The fixed day of Christmas might you look at me.
Fa la la, five golden wings, four calling birds, three French hens,
To turtle ducks and a partridge in a pair of jeans
The Shakespeare Christmas might be looking neat
Since we're so late for love, love, love
But I'm calling it both calling birth sweet
Cranches to turtle ducks
And a party should give a fair dream
The same day of Christmas, might you look here to me?
Seven swans are silly, six geese are laying
Voila, la, la, la, five golden beets
Four calling birds, three French hands, two turtle ducks
And a pocket in a pantry
I'm in a pantry
The eighth day of Christmas, might you look at me?
Eight mazes of milking, seven swans of swimming
Six geese of laying fallen
Five golden rings
Four calling birds, sweet friendships
Chains teetered us, and a partridge in a pastry
And I'll give that pastry
Day of Christmas my true love gave to me
Nine ladies dancing in, made to milk
And seven swans asleep, six diesel ladies
This one's a really sweet piece of paper
Don't lie, don't lie back on me
Oh, calling burnt streets and chairs
To neutral dust and parchment in a pantry
Oh, in a pantry
Dear, I'm a very good Christmas
But you look good to me
The twelfth day of Christmas,
might you look at me?
Trapped from the strumming
Reckon Piper's hiking tent
Lord, don't need me,
nothing weighs this dance of fate
Made from milking's heaven's
one to twenty-six
He's relating by love
The Sarkoons
Fault calling
birth and street
Transient to gender
And a project
In a pair of wings
Gonna love that beat
Huh!
I wish it could be forever, but it only comes from once a year
The lights go up now in November, I think that it's only fair
Can we not believe that I'm up for good? I doubt that anyone would care
Let it be Christmas
Let it be Christmas for you and me
Let it be Christmas
We'll be together by the Christmas tree
Don't ask too much, skip all my gifts
There's only one thing left on my list
Let it be Christmas, it's nearly here
Let it be Christmas
Every day of the year
I'm lighting up the windows
Before the leaves are far down
Can't help but stop the count
So I know when you're coming around
Why the way to wonder
Like it's only once a year
If every day could feel this good
Let's keep the season here
Let it be Christmas
Let it be Christmas
Let it be Christmas for you and me
Let it be Christmas
There'll be together by the Christmas tree
Don't let us watch
Give all my gifts
There's only one thing left on my list
Let it be Christmas
That's nearly it
Let it be Christmas
Every day they hear you
Every day of the year
Don't ask for much, just give up my gift
There's only one thing left on our list
Let it be Christmas, it's nothing
Let it be Christmas
Every day of the year
Jingle bells at jingling, carols fill the air,
Mistletoe and Harley everywhere,
Children taking slayer eyes, laughing all the way,
Oh what fun we'll have this holiday
Homemade decorations, lights on every tree
Snowball fights with friends and family
Holiday occasion, razor cup of cheer
For what fun to celebrate this merry time of year
Bells on pop-tails ringing, making spirits bright
Come along, we'll sing a song tonight
For what fun to celebrate this merry time of year?
For what fun to celebrate this very merry time of year?
Underneath the missile, Joe, said when I whispered in my ear Get on the party train, you've been so good this year And then your left one must have some fun Next time this Christmas, oh yeah, yeah
The holiday has begun
Feel full of Christmas songs
Spinning upon the railroad track
Get off that makes some noise
Cause there's no turning back
It's the beginning of our whole new year
Next time is Christmas again
Hello, Jesus, here.
Hey, yeah.
For the Christmas train spring.
This is a new cycle, everybody.
Everybody.
Underneath the mistletoe,
Santa riffs, but in my ear.
Get on the party train.
You've been so good this year.
And when the whistle blows, I know you're near
Next stop is Christmas, oh yeah, yeah
Holidays are here, next stop is Christmas, oh yeah
Holidays are here, next stop is Christmas, oh yeah, yeah
Holidays are here
It's the holidays, and it gets so good, Chilling with the families, like we know we would,
Cut it on the couch, watchin' movies, All the lights blinkin', eatin' curries,
Let's hope our fate to happen, and I'll try Jingle Jingle's all we hear,
Something like it's a slave of ride, And the dentist knows amazing,
It's magic, it's a miracle, this holiday is so beautiful
Blow it out, blow it out, it's crazy
It's like a love line
Ho, ho, ho, these things won't be together
Nothing always present
Ho, ho, ho, these things won't be together
More love, more love, more love
More love, more love, more love
More love than we can measure, yeah
Every single room is filled with good vibes
Grandma came to visit from the sweet pie
Time to just relax and feel the joy rise
Fix my dinner plate, make your super size
Hot cocoa with the cousins, less family love
Playing games, no complaining, let's live it up
We don't get this time together all the time
So special, gather round, take some photos
Be a human, stand a manual, yeah
It's magic, it's a miracle
This holiday so beautiful
Blow me out, blow me more
Spread tears, spread love like
Oh, oh, oh, this evening won't be compared
Look at all the presents
Oh, oh, oh, this evening won't be compared
One love, two we can measure
Oh, oh, oh, this evening won't be compared
Lookin' over the stairs
Oh, no, no, just need to become the caverns
Some more lies don't we can make it, yeah
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I'm excellent.
Excellent, you said.
Excellent. I was up last night watching the Yandex game.
You know, I was on the panel for that.
You were.
That was a dank game.
It was a great game.
Well, I think we'll talk about that later. How are you guys doing?
My day was all Dota, and then I woke up against Dota again.
I'm good. My day was good. I played Magic the Gathering for a bunch of hours last night.
I heard you got your first dub.
My first dub, Pierre, yeah.
Yeah, congrats.
Like a four-hour game. Thank you relations. It's a way too long. What's very red blank playing? I
Don't know. It was a kid's deck. I don't know. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah
How you doing Alan? Yeah, I'm doing good
We've had a couple of days this patch the games have been pretty crazy. Yeah, I don't know if that's the patch
So it's just coincidence because I feel really it's the pads
I don't know because obviously we're getting pretty similar pics overall sure
We're starting to see some more interesting stuff come out
But a lot of the stuff's the same but indeed maybe these changes happen enough to just make the games even more crazy
Because we seem to be getting a lot of them in just two days of gameplay
Can't wait to see what we get today. Yeah, I think I think so far most teams have been kind of not experimenting too much
Until yesterday Jenkins you already talked about that
Oh, yeah, I won't talk about more because I think I think you the yandex versus tundra series was the series
Where we saw the most innovation thus far
Yeah, they were they were not afraid to pick new stuff and you know on the first game
We were not so sure about it
We're gonna skip to the second game here where of course there was an Omni Knight carry
Game one though. I do want to highlight that is
This was so close to being a 2-0 actually or tundra because
Here was running around on Omni Knight popping off in every single lane
Which is not what I would expect from this hero. Like legit the guy was like ganking mid, ganking enemy safe lane
but at some point
he fell off and
Ursa still appears to be quite the late game menace. Honestly more of a late game menace than
before because of the fury swipe stacks that you're now building with the Q. And then this one we had a BZM tinker
33 had a
He looked a little bit tilted in this one, which is surprising because he wasn't the one playing against the Tinker.
And I don't want to be that person that always highlights the supports, but this was two games in a row where Younglegs had a shadow shaman.
And Soxa sold all of his items at the end, bought a refresher, rushed it down mid, and took the throne.
So the Gigachat absolutely won the game for his team.
We had the Tinker.
And took the throne so the giga chat absolutely won the game for his team
We had the the benefit of interviewing him afterwards
And he had some some very interesting stuff to say about the game and he said like they really liked the draft
They felt like they figured out 33
Sorry, they said they felt like the viper was the answer to a lot of the things Tundra wanted to run
Okay, and we kind of determined on the panel like it counters all of 33's current heroes
That's kind of what I feel like Sokso was saying there, because he had such a tough game on Tidehunter with the Viper Break of always being available in both of the games that they had Viper.
Yeah, it's a classic counter and this new build makes the hero just way more viable, because all of his counters kind of get countered by this stupid you have no attack speed thing.
It's a really weird dynamic, but the combination of like Crimson being unpergible and then now no one has any attack speed makes it to where you get the benefit of having the ult and all the obnoxious garbage that comes with the Viper,
But also they don't need you alive like a little snake snack. Yeah, I think we heard collapse talk about the the viper as well
When they were up against extreme he was definitely surprised
But I mean that was over that was a carry viper
So, you know definitely a little different
But he was also surprised about the power of the the hero a little bit and then we saw spirit actually in the next
Series picking it up themselves as this crazy base race here
Well, I was really base race, but the crazy ending I mean you can see the team there
they were they were so so happy and this was of course
Just get this wet off of his for yeah
I that that was that was crazy all that in the upper bracket of course Owen
Yeah, no, this is this has been quite quite crazy sort of
Road for some of these teams in terms of just how hard fought these wins have had to be
It's been that close right up to the wire
And yeah, can't wait to see now what's gonna happen towards this you know kind of
Combination of this dream the spirit yandex in that upper bracket final gonna be good. Yeah, that's gonna be crazy
And I would not be surprised if we do
See some more heroes that we haven't seen yet come out in that sort of match up
Well before we go for that upper bracket series. We got to spend some time right here in the lower bracket when this is
This is where it really is gonna hurt
Yeah, going home, going home is rough, well they're already home, but you know, going home metaphorically.
But they will not get top six, that means no vacations, so these two losers, these first two series,
that means January is chocked full of qualifiers, there's no, no time with family, none of that.
You're all about that Dota grind whether you want it or not.
Sometimes it can be beneficial to qualify a grind, like I think it can make a team better,
especially if you're a new team, you've had roster changes, whatever, but it is miserable.
Qualifiers suck. Holy crap they suck. And it's not a guarantee that you'll make it through because the qualifiers are gonna be stacked
They are early on in the season, so it's not like it used to be where you know a good team plays a qualifier
There's why would they just breathe through people lose qualifiers all the time about that. I've lost qualifiers
You never know what like Eastern European team playing in Western Europe or some random stack
Like all of a sudden has a really really good qualifier run and maybe they make one tournament
But then they just bomb out of the next one
They disband as a team you can legit like lose to that team
Like there's a lot of really good players in these qualifiers like looking to make their stacks to meet the best series of the
Days OG versus VP that one looks like that things that looks like a complete banger to me
So I think I feel like you have OG the team like everybody's looking at they're looking to prove that in a new meta
Which to be fair hasn't changed that much. It's still like largely dictated by how they're playing like they're trying to prove
themselves and then you have VP I feel like they want this the most out of any team here like they're the biggest underdog
They definitely have the most haters. I think for sure
Bulba is like the whole Dota scene like joins around the campfire and like pointing and laughing at
When they win it's the players or someone popping off and when they lose
Bulbas drafts exactly time. So I think at some point the players are like
We're like they have like a motherly instinct, but we're gonna defend Bulba
you know we're gonna win do it for her and her is full but in this case yeah yeah
we do have a stacked lower bracket day ahead of us three series we just saw
the schedule but before anything maybe it is time to get our Christmas spirits a
little bit going here and I think when the box is at box this time is your name
on it calling my name I can hear it's watching me to this corner of the room
to this holly jolly fellow. Hello sir. Thank you. This is a quite a weighty gift. A weighty gift?
And some heft to it. Is it meat? It's definitely not meat unless it's meat.
Oh, we got... We got four boxes! Oh, she's going to have to give you that one.
That's not okay for me. Oh, that's heavy. Oh my goodness.
We don't have a spark. We just have to see what it is.
All right. You first. So, like, gloratory adventure here.
Oh, the tape on that.
Ooh.
Okay, that's close to the bar wall.
Did it take too long?
Yeah, it took too long.
Okay, we got cookie cutters.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Okay, we got cookie cutters.
Are we making cookies? I think we're making cookies.
No, look at that.
It looks like we got the cookie cutters.
We're making gingerbread.
Wait a sec, what is this?
I think...
Oh, yeah, cause here's all the...
Oh my gosh!
What do we got?
These are three?
Oh, these are two of the same and what?
Okay, they are...
What is...
Two of the same of each.
They are two different gingerbread house.
Oh, like...
Uh, what do you call them?
Like instructions.
Yes.
Yeah.
Uh...
What do you call them?
The mold?
Not the molds?
The plants.
Blue friends, there is so much ginger in here.
Give me one of those.
Looks very tasty.
Dude, what this is?
Okay, on the right of me, guys.
Golds.
This is just dough.
On the shoe is edible.
We already have the dough. This is the dough.
We got lots of the dough.
Yes.
Did you get a scissors there by chance?
There was no scissors.
There's no scissors in my basket.
So yours is for decorating.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know what this is.
I didn't look at it.
What was this for?
Yeah.
I guess we're going to make a gingerbread house, but we have to cook the pieces.
We have to cook the pieces.
Extra flour.
Okay, Jen, because I will let you choose.
Would you like to make one or two houses?
I think we start with one.
Choose one of the two houses, the Susie or the cottage.
Oh, I love cottage.
A house is called Susie.
There's one called...
There's one...
Yeah.
Cut two pieces.
I want to see the finished product.
This is the finished product.
Okay, this is hard.
Oh, that one looks really difficult.
Dude, go to the last page.
Last page has the answers as it goes.
Is it?
Is it questionnaire?
Mine doesn't have the answers.
Oh.
That's the content.
That's okay.
We're doing that one.
That one's easy.
That one's like a normal house.
Yes.
What's the other one?
Oh, the other one?
What's the other one that looks like?
This one's just a triangle.
Yeah.
We're looking simple
But on earth that one's a bit like a cathedral. Yeah, it's got spire vibes. Yeah, it does have spire but look at this one
Raise be unto Santa Claus
The great ruler. I mean, this is difficult. Come on. Yeah, that's good. I mean we can try that one
No, we're not gonna have so much gingerbread. You know, but we have one at a time
Actually, can I get the plastic of the thing? I'll see how long it has to go into the oven today
What can I just eat it?
Probably not.
I'm gonna take a bite.
I got told by a cat that you shouldn't because also raw flour can also have some.
It smells.
But they say it smells amazing.
You can bite it's like cookie dough.
It's like when you have a stick of cookie dough.
Okay, but you're not supposed to eat cookie dough or raw cookie dough.
You're not supposed to.
Why?
Because it has like raw eggs.
I just got told by production you can eat it.
Oh my god, but you can't.
Okay, it's good.
Remember.
Can you at least cut this off because we don't...
It's really good.
Give me that thing right now.
Give me that thing right now.
Yeah, okay, give me that thing right now.
It's like the good bit and one of those Ben and Jerry's eyes.
Yeah!
But it's just all the good bits.
Yeah, yeah, the chunks.
It's the chunks.
I'm just... I want a brick of that.
Look how many we got as well.
Sure, but let's, you know...
That cannot be good on the calories, that.
I can't eat that.
You can't eat that so much.
It's actually really it's literally the good bits from those ice creams that have all the bits in
Six minutes in the oven
This is where it's especially done. I'm just glad it's so dense to eat the whole brick is gonna like kill you
Tell me what how many of the calories that are like how much calories? Yeah per hundred?
This bomb boy
How much we got per hundred grams you're eating 30 grams of sugar?
It's so it's so damn. Just want to point out actually not that bad
So it's only 150 grams of sugar the whole thing. I think that's only like two times your daily recommended amount
This is no this is 500 grams
Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah five times 30. Okay, sure and then that's actually quite healthy. If you would eat this whole brick
You would eat
200 to 2000 calories. Oh my god, that's not that I thought that would be more
So you if you want a quick snack if you're a little short in the calories you can see a block of this
I'm thinking yeah, what what?
Why don't they use this at war like why in World War two World War one?
You and yourself on gingerbread dough just eating gingerbread dough
I feel like bodybuilder should be eating it like if you just need to if you're trying to bulk like
But I was trying to gain weight if somebody told me about this man
It would have been so easy if you make the whole block that's 20 grams of protein
That is really helpful.
You do not have to sell it.
It's actually 25 grams.
25 and extra five in there.
25, you're right.
That's an Oscar Jaguar.
It does.
Yeah, it sits in your...
That would be the...
That's the Salmonelli.
Yeah.
It's like put out the back of your throat.
That's good. We got more.
Is that rotten chicken egg?
That bit, the rest of you have to make a...
I'm not eating that.
Was that your bite or my bite?
I don't know.
I have a bite somewhere in there too.
I don't think I want it anymore.
I don't think cut my bits off away from the places that you guys bit things.
Oh yeah.
I don't think I...
Do you think it molds, Nachley?
You're a little...
You're gonna...
I'm like a bull.
Well, if you want you can make some...
We did sculptures the other day and we missed that one.
Because obviously we are making a gingerbread house.
I know.
But you can just make a...
Yeah, it molds very easily.
It's a perfect consistent you can you can roll it out. I mean, I would imagine so can you take this block of
Right here have this I can't eat anymore. I can't I literally okay. I'll put it in here put it in here
Hmm. There you go. We've got to get slacks to try this hill even not on new goober. Slacks will love this
I don't because somebody might eat it. Oh
Slacks
It's very good. Here you go. You guys those taste good a little cutting board here
Um, it's like you can't eat it isn't it on keto?
I think this is keto friendly.
That's keto friendly.
If you don't read the nutritional information.
We went down for dinner yesterday and you had keto tots.
I don't know.
He did have to have.
He did have to have.
In a kilogram of steak.
And it was a lot of them.
I think it was mostly.
We went back yesterday and he had two times the amount of tater tots.
Oh my god.
But he didn't have the giga steak.
Did he finish the steak?
He didn't have the burger instead.
And it was not a big burger.
No.
Oh, that's good.
How do we just roll it out and we just cut the
Yeah, you want to make a nice big thing and then cut out the shapes. Yeah, it's good. I did
Okay, we like stick multiple so you want to roll it out flat first and then cut the shape so I'm guessing yeah
Yeah, we have cutters right we have not we've got these yeah, but we have knives
Yeah, we also have the cutters. I'm guessing there's way more than enough of the gingerbread
Yeah, you want to make some cookies. Yes, but we can we can make make wall. Yes
Oh, yeah, you can make extras and you can make the walls thick if you want. Yeah, because we've got so much of it
Well, how can you still know we're gonna all get diabetes?
Well, yeah, you know, I was gonna say how thick should the walls be we can make it
Don't think production and the bomb through you don't have to eat all of them
No, you want to roll out by it or you want to roll out half? I think I think it's a big to give us off and we'll roll out half here
Isn't it you know you think it's
Oh my goodness.
Oh that's working actually.
No this goes onto the floor.
It's a glass table.
Oh my God.
There you go.
So if you want to protect your glass window, stick some gingerbread dough in it.
Then they're trying to break in your house and it's all right, didn't you?
We're all going to end this panel with a million last iterations.
The product that I heard from production!
It's a blast!
Oh, sorry, that was really funny.
Diable's fine, don't worry.
Don't put too much weight on it, please.
So we need a triangle with eight inches.
So why don't you cut that out along the lines?
You can cut that out of this, if you want.
We have a ruler?
No.
This is a ruler.
Oh, you literally, if you cut that out.
Is that inches?
No, that's not inches.
That's not.
No, this is miles.
I think imagine you just cut it out.
That's yards.
That's it.
Our producer literally tells you how to make a gingerbread house in my ear.
I have a very active role in this one.
Glass table everybody.
What did you do?
I made it into a ball because it crumbled.
It seemed to be dry.
Come on, Dekwanage.
Only one bit has come off but you can cut stuff out of this.
What are we cutting out of this?
The forms that's...
What shape do you need Jenkins?
Oh, you're going to get like a 10 play.
Yeah, I'm going to give you a 10 play.
Yeah, then we need to roll a whole block then.
This is not going to spread all over.
Well, here's a new block.
Make cookies out of that one or see if there's small pieces.
This one didn't work.
This one's going to be a cookie one.
It's too thick still for a cookie one.
Surely.
I don't know, I feel like I'm going to fit in.
I can just see how thin I can make it without breaking.
And while we are rolling this out,
let's roll out the schedule for the fools here
for the Esel Pro Tour.
We are only at stuff number one of more stops total.
As Quinn already mentioned, the first two series today,
those two middle series you see, those two middle
adventures, the Dream League Season 28
and the ESL Bomb Birmingham, qualifiers for that
need to be played for everyone, apart from if you get
top six here, which is what is on the line for those teams.
On top of that, obviously, look at that.
jump from top 8 to top 6, quite hefty as well. And especially, I mean, okay, don't get me wrong,
the money is nice, but look at the difference in points. It's insane. You go from 500 points
to 1100 points. That is a massive jump. It's good. Of course, based on points, you get to make it
to a react at the end of the season. So very, very important. Not having to play qualifiers
Try that. Try that.
Huge. Those qualifiers for Riyadh and TIR are the most stressful.
Oh, it's the worst.
Everybody makes the stack.
Oh, those qualifiers are so stressful.
Oh, and do you want gloves?
Well, I think I'm nearly done on it.
What?
You about to keep me off.
Oh, like that?
Yeah.
I'm like, are you already done with your house?
I'm nearly done.
You just got to lay this over and roll it down,
and then you're like, I love this.
Why doesn't it go off the thing?
Do we have any?
Well, you know, if you keep rolling, keep rolling.
It will come off.
Oh, I broke.
You have to put some flour on it.
Give me flour.
Yeah.
That will make it less breakable, maybe.
If that's how that works, I don't know.
I can't do cooking.
But I think that's just for topping.
Yeah, it's like a snow effect on the top.
But it's all pretty.
Maybe, yeah, I think the flour will help.
Yeah, we could possibly go around.
I'll roll it around in the flour first.
Roll it around, roll it around in it.
No, no, I think like you wanted to get the flour on there.
You know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
That's good.
That might help.
I think it's helping.
This is going well.
I think also just if you do it, like the friction,
like the warmth makes it a bit softer, so then it won't...
There's no warmth on the wood?
Yeah, I think when you're doing that right,
it's gonna have some level of friction.
What else are we talking about?
This is rolling way better.
This is good now.
We need to get at this bit.
I mean, I'm just trying to get it tall.
just maybe maybe is that one thing or is that half of this is less than half because you have
more than half yeah i think maybe want to roll a whole are they smaller pieces
yeah that's true i mean the promise we pick your wall so i think you have to use a whole
and you've got to use all you might even have to use two blocks no you don't one block rolls
out this what's this you need to do you need to do one block i need to i need to i need to
Can I borrow this show but it still needs to maintain a like a rigid stroke jump meters
That is oh 22. Can you check if this fits if the square fits on this or does it need to be bigger bigger?
I think you want to do a whole bunch of that. Oh, that's paper thin the walls are gonna stand. This is not a wall
That's a roof. It has to be light right doesn't get bigger when it goes in the oven. No, oh, that's a little there's a little
But everything gets bigger then you want everything to be the same size anyway
but yeah it was right you can have there's no I'm gonna get a little like
that will not work that's why this is wait no no no this is not a what this is
the roof that's yeah that's the fun for the roof but yo saying she wants
everything to be the same size but we're saying the wall needs let me make
some cookies oh no what's happened it's all stuck together oh okay guys do
you want to take your take to your stations or what are you enjoying
Making this you can you can be fair you can see it continues to be here if one of you
Now the floor and one of you's boots over to the side
We're gonna go look we don't go join the lobby. Yeah, I was the game
We don't go start the game
Castor start the game
Oh, it is an extra roller. Why do you do it on top of the other one? It's like a double layer
I'm assimilating. Okay. I do think it's next for the blend to go so that we can actually have different people
Yeah.
That might not break the table.
It needs more flour.
I mean, someone's going to have to fix this.
It needs more cowbell.
Okay, please.
Let's go.
Uh, please.
We'll talk about our next rush up.
It's Falcon's birthday.
Oh my gosh, he's burning that.
Alright, finally I get to talk about Falcons vs Extreme Gaming.
This is a repeat of the TI Grand Finals, and I feel like that's really the main story
of this series.
We had earlier during Green League, Ex Nova talk about how important the concept of revenge
for him is, so I feel like I want to take a look at that interview and just remind
everybody of what he had to say.
Are there any teams that you're excited to be able to play off against more once we go
to the second stage of this event?
I look forward to playing against Falcon.
Nice.
We have a revenge and I think OG impresses a lot.
And I really like how they play.
Yeah, I'm very excited to play against them.
Yeah, so as everybody knows, we have these two teams faced off in the grand finals
of TI.
Xtreme unfortunately lost in Game 5, so I think for them, even though it's not the same roster,
I think a lot of that emotion is probably still lingering.
And even though they haven't had the sharpest throwing in the event so far, I feel like
this is a match that you've had in the back of your mind ever since you lost.
You've thought about the series, you've thought about how they play, you've thought about how they're gonna,
you know, how you would redo the finals in order to beat them.
So I think today you're gonna see a bit of a different side of Xtreme
and I think they're gonna be looking for that revenge.
You're gonna be sharper than they've been for the rest of the event.
event and they're gonna have more ideas about how they want to approach this team because they've
just played them so recently. So that's what I'm really excited for today. I think it's going to be
a hype match even though maybe Falcons have looked sharper leading up to this team. Thank you
Insanity. You can join us to help Kugas and I do fully agree. I think revenge is a powerful
motivator. Now I will say that I feel like both teams have kind of been underperforming
here so far. Lacoste, welcome to the panel. Do you feel like that's that's worth it to
What do you say, Orcs? Am I wrong?
Yeah, I believe that is correct, Sheaver.
We saw Falcons, they don't have a single dub on this new patch.
That's how bad this team is doing.
They play two games only, but, you know,
we're here to stir some drama, make it sound more dramatic.
Yeah.
I bet, uncharacteristic, the series that they did play,
they did have, I would say, a mistake when they were going for the high ground
with ages that game number one that they played against ParaVision.
not something that you usually see this thing is like always locked in, not making too many mistakes,
but then again in the game number two, and Steve Malrin, he's getting picked off, they're losing the barracks because of that pick-off,
and just not in a traditional Falcon's way losing the game, I would say.
I feel like they have looked better the next few though. I was going through the replays,
and I feel like both Falcons, because our expectation of Falcons is like when or you're not playing, you know,
you know, or they're bad, you know, it's like, the expectation is so incredibly high
that whenever we see any small misplay from them, we feel like they're not informed, they're not peaking, they're not like
playing their best Dota, but
I would still say like, power levels coming into the series, I would rank like
Falcons maybe like on an 8th, and a 3 maybe on like 5 or 6th.
That's quite a big difference!
I think so, yeah, I think in terms of like, what I've seen from watching them play
uh, it feels that way, but
with that said, I think, like I said in the
3 in the tech segment, but I just think XG is going to be a different beast.
I think this is a, it will look different from them.
I hope so, compared to the results they were in the lower bracket to begin with.
Now it is obviously very cool to hear from us how we think the forms of the teams are,
but it's also cool to hear that from the players.
So let's see how Falcons feels.
I think coming into this dream league season, we obviously felt like we kind of aren't a
bit of a decline like I mentioned before.
I think we didn't perform as well in our last tournament and it showed, I think we improved
on a little bit and I think the results showed that, you know, we ended up making the
Plam's pretty convincingly.
Trying to get out. They kept it mid with a nice double spear.
Spear back on the jikiro. Very tanky hero considering this pipe. Look at him go man!
He's not going down, you know what I mean? He turns around.
Macro pyres on top of all of these heroes.
What a push back there for a concussive grenade from Maureen.
Now the assassination finished on mid wall.
Another assassination and put down the dazzle. Just line him up.
It's in the crystalis because they took this fight without the up at.
Coming into the season we obviously at the minimum expectation is top six and then we're obviously trying to every turn we play
We're trying to win. It's not realistic to try to come in win every tournament
So I think the minimum first is top six, but we hope to win
No way, dude!
I mean, the arena's gonna hold three into place, you're just getting a little bit of help from the spirit side, but they've pushed that streaming all the way over to the left, and the dry copter's not in a position where he can get any damage out.
You've got some massive problems.
I definitely think we're making progress.
I think we improved a lot on the mistakes we talked about and the small details, and we're working on them.
And I think it's on the up and up.
On the decline, Snakey says, but you know, the client you can always stop and I asked
and said a very important question, obviously not about Dota, how long does it need to go
into the oven?
We're making a gingerbread house.
So, it says to leave it in room temp for 2 to 3 hours.
It has been.
And it softens up.
I feel like this is quite cold, but maybe it has.
Relatively cold?
Yeah.
And then in the oven for 4 to 6 minutes.
Does it say anything about getting the worms?
You eat the raw dog?
It does say if you are under 15 years old and you eat the raw dog, you will get worms in your stomach.
We're not 15?
We're good.
We can eat it.
We can eat it.
You can eat the whole thing.
How hell, yes.
2000 calories.
Did your parents need this?
Or is this just my parents' thing?
This is just your parents' thing.
If they are always making stuff up, stuff that I can't do because of X reasons.
Any examples of the cost?
Yeah, if you swallow a bubblegum
Once you go to the toilet you will have a balloon getting out of your ass
If you for me it still happens like we can test this theory right now if you swallow a pit of a fruit
You have a tree grown out of oh, yeah
We should talk about serious though because it is a very high series as we already highlighted and
Based on what we saw yesterday and based on that these two teams are in the lower bracket to begin with
We do want to see some innovation in this series, right?
Because we want to see some things that reflect like,
oh, the new patch is definitely here with this team.
What do you want to see from them and say anything?
What are you hoping for here?
I just want to see fire from XG.
I feel like it was one of those series.
They played against Navi where they were like a completely different team.
And I've seen them be.
And that was early on in the tournament.
Yeah, it was quite early on.
And they like completely shifted off the way they played.
They picked completely different heroes.
I know I did a whole presentation on like I'm a pile exorcist in a safe lane
Yeah, and then he plays win range or he's roaming the entire
You want to see that so that I want to see that yeah
I don't want them to come into the stock in series with like no idea of how they want to approach this series
Because I feel like the one advantage you always have against Falcons is you know what they're gonna do and you can track for it
Yeah, it should not be a surprise what you're gonna play up again like what you play against when you play against Falcons
The problem is they're just so incredibly good at doing what they do that you might still lose anyway. Yeah
But that gives XG the advantage of we can bring something to the table if they haven't seen it before.
That's fair. We are going into the draft.
So if everybody is always able to see what's coming from Falcons, maybe Falcons that has not won a series yet on this patch,
maybe they need to change it up. We do see the overall first ban from Windranger once more.
That seems to be the common trend.
By the way, how many degrees do we need the oven to be on?
Because I think I can put this one in so that I can afterwards make the side of the house from the LaCoste ring.
Oh, I'm going to make that.
We can put it on top.
200 to 225. It's just a regular oven.
Degree? It's a regular oven.
Why does it say lower temperature below that?
It's like, you know, if you have like a...
I don't know if the English term for it is, but you know the ones that blow hot air?
Yeah, that's this one, no?
Like the hot air ovens?
Yeah, isn't this one a hot air oven?
Then this should be 180 degrees.
It's a regular one.
I think it's a regular one.
Oh, it's 180 degrees.
It said it doesn't go higher than 230.
Yeah, 200 to 225.
It's what you're actually.
Seriously?
Yeah.
We're gonna burn my mushrooms.
200 to 225.
Ooh.
Can you just leave it at 200 maybe?
They don't count in between 180 and 130.
I just have to guess it.
I believe in you.
We'll be fine.
I will wait and the temperature is off again, so I need to wait and then it's four to six minutes
That's very short
Okay, so that gives us time to look at some drafts. We have shadow demon. That's not new
This will be my commentary if it's new or not. So please say the smart things instead
thinker's been bound by Falcons, which isn't surprising when you play against NTS, but I
I think this means that probably NTS is spamming item pubs and like because it seems a little bit out of the field for me
This is the same opener that they did have inside of Falcons
The first game of the patch when they were playing against party vision. This hero is still broken
I would say you have a global ability one of the fastest farmers from the off lane in the game
Super strong laner and also having an ability later on to have a save
the best crimson buyer in the game which is undispellable now maybe core
undying could be tied for that spot but overall very solid opening from
falcons I would say yeah it's one of the few ways to what is it called deal with
shadow demon yeah and the collapse also mentioned this yesterday that like with
a buff to crimson guard you can now counter like all the years are good
against Centaur or that against Crimson Guard. So Crimson Guard being a better item actually
makes him quite well rounded in a different way from the patch before where you were buying
Hummell Dominator and just...
And Kerries love this matchup. Like they see Shadow Demon, they're probably also saying
if you can squeeze in Centaur, that'd be great because you can just pop that Alti,
it gives them another way of resetting in the fight so they don't have to pop their
BKB standard ground so StemClean is going to be a very valuable tool against Shadow
demon back to you Jenkins yeah keep it up boys keep it up great analysis coming
in what they change about tinker they gave 40 in talent at 25 and then 10%
mana loss reduction at level 10 that's it that's all I remember but let me give
it a look she was built up is different I guess which people are we did
it's the word actually the worst looking item build in the game like the
way you build it from a circle chainmail ring of health and then recipe it just
seems so odd the veil of discord the veil yeah this are those are nice items though
those are like kind of nice lady value items yeah really in but it does feel
messy it's like no item and all that's ever included these arts ever something
is just often when when you look at it you're like what is like what is he
actually built. Yeah, like when you look at those inventories and you see like an ultimate
orb and an ogre axe, I think I saw him one of the games by 9 class actually. Oh yeah,
he was like, I'm going for BKB and then going for Tati. What is this? My name is one item,
bro. Yeah, exactly. Say one deck is, is that possible or not? Oh yeah, maybe. Well, extreme
gaming, Chinese teams in general have a tendency to lean towards like more heavy
fight and less of these like map-based kind of cheesier support picks which I feel like in my mind
at least Chen and Chantris fall into they're good at manipulating the map you can do a lot of stuff
for the creeps that mess up with the natural flow theme and they just take those out they want to
have like a more normal stable kind of looking game one thing that I was always worried about
whenever I see extreme gaming is them having supports with very low damage early on a lot of
of the times this is how historically I would say this team has been playing that they put
themselves in a spot where they lose the laning stage quite often and then they're trying to be
hit or trying to make a comeback yeah I would say the the goal isn't necessarily I think they're
not maybe looking to smash lanes or they don't draft to smash lanes yeah same way like European
teams do um but they do they do try to aim for like quite a stable lane because I think they
They want Amir to have consistently good lanes where he can play off of it and they can move
heroes to connect to him and snowball the game that way.
I will say a big difference though for me between XG and Falcons is just how the supports
are going to be playing.
Naking compared to Ex-Nova for me are almost puller opposites.
We have snaking on the much more farm heavy position, 5, he's going to be building
a lot of the aura is going to be scaling a lot more, whereas Ex-Nova is going to play
a hero that has important spells that need to be cast at the right times or in the correct
way in order to secure fights.
But doesn't necessarily need to have big items.
Yeah, he plays more of the hero's skills rather than the item, whereas Ne is more
like going to be...
I'd make my team big.
I get solar, I get pipe, I get crimson, and this might be the hero form.
Marana. Even though we talked about Marana potentially being a core with you know getting the agonym scepter from the med lane e-blade this type of stuff
I think Marana is right now very undervalued position 5 like the Lotus is the 50% heal that you're getting
She easily built into Guardian Greaves. I did some testing with Holy Locket as well
It's an insane amount of heal that you are doing. Having the spell mechanic moonlight shadow
Of course gonna be very underrated so like even the heal amplification that you get now from
Holy lock it if you're building into that and then popping a big lotus as well on top of that
It's just an insane amount if you have like medium lotus on Marana plus a holy lock it
This is some insane amount of heal that is that you're bringing into a fight that you can throw onto your carry and
Turn the whole fight around with it. How many minutes did you say eight or two six minutes?
Definitely before six months. It's not been put in yet. I'm gonna put it in
Oh. Oh, it was feeding.
And also put it in the oven.
Yeah.
Thank you, Lacoste.
Back to you, Jason.
Hey, Siri!
It went into her eye again.
Hey, Siri.
I thought he would care.
Put the timer for four to six minutes.
We got support AI here, she either.
I did ten minutes.
Use a... use a...
An ironic case.
Yeah, it's a 10!
Sorry, I'm not supporting that. It doesn't work.
It doesn't work!
We have a clock on the screen. We can count 4 minutes.
We have a draft.
Extra time.
Just need to add those things up.
I feel like after counting 4 minutes, I've definitely not made it.
Off of that, plus the Tiberish thing, that sounds like a challenge.
Viper seems to be Flavor.
Like, everybody's playing it.
Yeah.
Almost in every single game.
I feel like since the patch, this is...
It is the hero, it seems.
Like, it's just, it feels uncounterable with the build that people are doing now.
I feel like it's a consistent Viper thing though.
Like, when Viper hasn't been played for a few months or weeks or years,
whatever it shows up again, you just look at this hero and it's like this immovable object.
Like, he has no counters, nothing beats him.
How wise is he to not pick an every single game?
And then breaking him is one option.
That's not bad, yeah.
Primal Beast eggs, pretty good at that.
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
Yeah, they needed a hero that can actually deal damage.
Shadow Demon Warlock, it's not damage, they need someone else to deal damage for them.
It's going to be a lot of stacking between the two supports, I would say.
I guess Primal Beast is also very good because for the later stages of the game, you can't
faith people with Aghanim Scepter, with the cart on Senthor.
It just doesn't work because there are two things.
Once you're getting pulverized, yeah.
I mean, I feel like this exchange draft also, if you think about it from the perspective
of what's going to happen in their ideal world in a T-fight, it looks like this, right?
You get fatal bombs on five heroes, you put the Shadow Demon W on whatever kez is hitting
and everything just explodes.
You know, Alma's damage is just overwhelming and he just completely annihilates everyone.
Whereas Hopkins does their thing where Santa is going to do his thing, Viper is
going to do his thing.
like an individual how do like everybody play their heroes individually to make them come together nicely
whereas xg is like the dream of the wombo combo is yeah they got the wombo my question is how does
break function against kez how many things are you breaking from this hero it's like six spells
some of them are passive some of them are like passives that are only working when you've
propped your other abilities like what what happens when he gets broken what doesn't work what does
work. This sounds like a little cost-flush. It does. It sounds like I need, you know, 10 minutes.
I do like Viper in general as a response to this case because he wants to go in and out of the fight
and they don't have many ways of actually doing that. Like there's no way of resetting, maybe
Warlock Golem, maybe disruption to buy a little bit more time. But I think we saw the same
matchup yesterday in one of the series where you go in as Kez, you get hit by a Viper Strike,
a couple of slows on you because this hero, like, you need the attack speed to be able to deal damages
well once you connect on to the target and Viper with all this minus attack speed, it's
countering you pretty hard. Oh sure, and another cool thing I don't think we mentioned is
extreme in this case, they picked Kez on 13, right? So they actually probably do that based
on the fact that Falcons banned Ursa and it's kind of cool when you can like abuse the heroes
that the enemy team's banning to your advantage and I feel like it shows like a high level of like
they're actively thinking about like what are we doing in the straps it's not so planned out
they're kind of reacting to what's happening in the moment and uh oh I I don't like this hero
like I don't know what's the obsession like the hero was still pretty bad in the previous
patch like we were talking about lack of damage. Sure there's like this e-blade
new type of a build but nothing much changed about here like he actually got
nerfed if you think about the agonist scepter his silence was two seconds
before now it's 1.75 so you're losing with two charges you're actually
losing half a second of the silence. I also feel like he's not like is he
good against Viper I actually don't understand I mean Quinn probably will
talk about this at length during the game yeah but I really don't see the
reason for this pick I feel like Viper, Viper mid should demolish a Void Spirit
yeah right I also feel like there is a world in which I could see NTS take the
final mid and just cut waves against Viper oh just doesn't lane and they can make a different off-screen
cool I am four I have been wanting to see the tiny carry because I I really
do feel like if you're gonna early pick the hero which it is worth early picking now that the
now that the queue is an aura this is insane but like because you can get so hard countered in lane
I think you have to be able to flex the tie there for Kerry
there's a timer oh this is so good that someone did a time that's really convenient actually
an army of people that can oh I don't know if we can make a wall out of this it's a good
Good thing we tested this out and how thick things need it to be.
To be honest, the mushrooms came out perfect!
Oh my god, I made mushrooms!
Yay!
Dude!
We believe you, but we can't see it yet, you.
I will show you.
I only have one glove.
Well, I'm trying not to touch anything with the other hand.
Where can I put it? It's so hot.
There.
The plastic.
Can I just can you hold it?
No, no, don't.
My hand is getting warmer and warmer by the minute.
I'm putting it on the floor.
Put it on top of the oven for now.
Wow!
Look at that mushroom!
The mushrooms are great!
Do you guys want the mushrooms to eat?
We'll need the thick boy walls.
That's walls.
You can let it dry. Let it dry.
Let it dry. Let it dry.
Let it dry.
I think Crystal Maiden is in the game.
I think Snakey was really struggling in this one to pick his hero.
He picked Crystal Maiden and
Morana in the same game and he was like really check on which one do I want to play because he loves both of these heroes
The support to that usually you won't see I would say from many other teams as well
I'm gonna be seeing more of Morana 5 maybe 4
Is the cookie good? Yeah
Do it I made a proper gingerbread cookie and I'm gonna enjoy it watching some great Dota and listening to some great music
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Game 1 here between Xtreme and Valkyrie.
Oh my goodness, we're here with Quinn. Quinn, look forward to this one.
We're getting some exciting stuff and cartridges from Falcon's side of things, right?
A few sort of switch-ups and where we've been seeing some of these heroes come through in previous matches.
What are we getting this time?
I mean, 4CM is very strange.
Not something I've seen in a really long time.
This hero's been dead just in general for a while, but almost always played as a 5.
So, we'll have to see how that works out. They had a reason for picking it. It was absolute last pick C.M.
Yep.
So, don't remember the last time I've seen that.
Maureen on the Viper, this hero was gaining a lot of popularity. Seems to be very, very good.
But, actually, I don't think that there was too much of a cast team.
Amma has the Battle Fury Q'd up, so they're very on my bill.
Oh, yeah, let's go.
We'll have to see how that pans out as well.
Yeah, indeed. This is going to be a fun one to watch, and of course, being down in the lower bracket.
Both of these teams are going to be giving it their all.
Obviously, as those of you who know that have been tuning in over the last few days,
we've had some pretty crazy games so far in this patch here at Dream League.
Let's see if those continue here into today.
Loser has to play qualifiers. This is a big series.
Both of these teams want the vacation. I know that for sure.
And what's your vibe then with the two lineups, sir?
I really question this Voidsbury pick, if I'm honest.
I think Viper is one of the best mid heroes against Void Spirit, which is a low damage hero.
Viper is very tanky, especially against Magic Damage in the early game, and I think this
lane can become really rough, Mauryne already scaling up the Q, and he's going to lay the
pain in.
I guess that would be sort of my question there as well.
When we saw the draft, right, they already get the Primal in.
Would there not have been a world where you would have robbed the Primal mix?
I feel like we've seen other teams that would do that, so they can have this
hero that's very good at skipping the lanes and not having to play the matchup.
I mean it's still pretty bad mid against Viper I think. You get broken so you don't
get passive stacks, you mega-stilogies, you don't do damage or trample.
But don't you just grab creeps?
You can, but you can't force it, like he needs to give you an opportunity to do it.
You can jam it eventually, or you can do like the crazy cutting crap that Thogmas
have done where like another hero takes mid, some real weird stuff. You can't do
that super reliably. So far NTS is doing decent though, but it's only going to get harder from
here. But he has outplayed Malorion on these first couple of waves. This HP level and mana
level for Malorion is one that can be abused in getting close to the bottle. But the
man goes in the region, he doesn't have the bottle yet, and now he's going to stand
on his hill, and now it's tough.
Yeah, it's definitely not going to get any more fun for nothing to say in this matchup.
And then looking at the other lanes, down on the safe lane,
Army, obviously with the back of the Warlock,
should be feeling pretty fine and happy down here.
Nice chill lane for him to get to farming
and that battle fury up nice and safely.
And let's focus, just to put some pressure on it.
And I was looking back on it,
this is definitely something that I imagine
Cripp always kind of has in mind
and that somebody wants to play
because he has done it before.
Did it two times last year in 2024?
Yet to see it from him this year in 2025,
but definitely something that I can only imagine
Kripp has as an idea, and I can only imagine
he's excited to play, you know.
It's one of those things he's saying, guys, let me do it.
Yeah, the hero got some nice buffs,
and it's a hero that is very iconic.
A lot of people like this hero,
have played this hero in the past,
and there's a lot of, just like,
I want to play this hero in Drafting, to be honest.
Maybe more than there should be,
but all the time players just,
ah, just give me this hero,
and you just kinda have to trust them,
because if you say no, then they're like mad
a little bit maybe or a little like disappointed.
And so it's like, whatever,
just give them their heck in here, you know.
It's like when your kids don't want to fit at the mall,
it's like just give them the toy.
And I do think one of the reasons why it could feel
strong this game is because XG do have three melee cores.
Like for me, that's something I look at and say,
you know, that's one of those situations
where CM can be crazy good.
Because these freezing fields,
you're gonna be hitting everyone with the novas
in the middle of the team fights.
Like there's a lot of potential
if the CM somehow gets through
beginning of the action without being blown up, but now that's obviously a big
if. Top lane, Skid up, he's in trouble. They're gonna be able to bring him down in
the two of them first blood for X-XS. I'm surprised and this is also a very, like
it's a classic combo, Shatterty, many of its probably you've seen this one a lot
recently and it is very very powerful, but to simulate Max with the
primal is no joke. Not, yeah, not at all, gotta be careful in that lane. And
And, yeah, look at what Skiddy can do here with the Tiny on the safe lane.
Obviously, with this new patch, we are seeing more Tiny's come in.
Honestly, I think there's always going to be a bit of bias
because we're seeing a lot of players have the cool ultra-rare set, as Skiddy also does.
So, I think a lot of them want to show that off here when they go to picking up.
Of course, it's a strong hero.
Do you think we are going to see this become a thing?
Like, will more teams want to hold that thought?
Because Mid, Maourin, it's going to get caught out by the ganky.
FY comes in to help out.
Very big kill there, against the Viper.
Be a tiny safe lane, is this a rare thing or something we're going to be seeing more of?
I think it's a player specific thing. I don't think a lot of players want to play it as tiny.
The only play it is really good because it doesn't really fit their style.
You think of like the anime style, carry players, your Watans, your Satanics, your Yutoros.
They don't really want to play this hero, but it's super good. So we'll have to wait and see.
Ask Camden from Snake King to find us an Estable Pressure and to TP back to base.
And that's a huge gank from FY. Every kill you get on the Zyper in the early game, giving some of that freedom to nothing to say, you can look nothing to say.
Even after keeping the base, he's about the same net worth with Malorraine. That's a really big deal. This lane could have gone a lot worse, but NTS, mechanically, has played it really well.
And with that gank coming in, this is about as good of an outcome as you could possibly hope for for XG in this early game.
Yeah, for sure. This is some solid early moves considering some of the lane matchups that they've got
well played here by XG. And then I guess the question is, well, when you're playing the Tiny Safe Lane,
does that mean for sure this is going to be a completely different build to the style of the
mid-Tinies right now? Or do you still go for that kind of, you know, just playmaking these
blink yuls and such? Or are we going to see some full right-click build this game from
I think it should be right-click built, then kill gopher, blink, echo, stuff like that.
I'm not sure in what order exactly, but probably echo, blink, SNY, the normal tiny stuff.
Even if you need a BKB at some point, this game is actually have a massive amount of match damage.
It can't be if you're alive, you know what it spells.
Difficult to really strike back against X-XS at the moment in this lane.
Not too much HP for these two to burst through at the moment.
They're doing well in the bottom line though, Amar.
You rarely see him lose a lane very much and this game is no different as he is doing totally
fine in the CS department, but even with Amar.
6-1 power in.
I'm just going to be able to get their hands on it.
Nice one here for nothing to say.
It's up the Amplified damage route.
Just have to be careful though whilst Maureen has hit the six in the mid
It's an interesting skill build adjustment from nothing to say the 0-3-2
Most of time people are we're seeing people just put a value point and it's in Malay and max the shard or by the shard
early rather having the max Q so you can farm the camps faster, but
The Q is good when you can man up and right-click people and he has no intention of doing that against vipers having the nukes
playing this sort of kiting, skirting build where you can burst the waves. I think
it's a good adjustment. It shows NTS is, he's actively thinking he's locked in
and he's playing well.
Yeah, bottom lane continues to be a very safe place here for army. Top of the
net worth. I look forward to see his approach with the Kes, with this battle
fury, as opposed to sort of that deso first build that we're seeing all of
of the time, mid lane, rotation's coming in, and Maureen is going to get taken down,
Stakey's going to try and strike back, we'll be able to bring down Ex Nova, and we'll survive,
but again, really good pressure from XG bringing in towards this mid lane and ensuring that
yeah, these two stay completely level, so that result of the matchup that you have this
Viper against the Void Spirit has not really benefited Falcons at all, XG they've dealt
without very nicely with these moves and they continue to do so.
They really have and Tia's going for a different item build as well, going for the witchblade first,
something we haven't seen in a long time.
Everybody's been going for the vessel, they've been going for that sort of in and out poking build,
and it's a good vessel game too, it's a centaur, a tiny...
That's true.
So if you wanted to buy it, it would totally make sense this game,
but feeling like this is a better option for some reason,
I respect the creativity, so we'll see how this pans out.
It's not like there's room for someone else in the lineup to build a Vessel, right?
No, not really. He's the only Vessel buyer.
Stay here around. He ain't gonna power him. We'll be down bottom this time.
I think he's gonna be able to grab it.
I'm gonna try and drop the ult.
There's a hater ult. Put some harassment onto him.
No chance he dies there, though.
But it will annoy him somewhat.
Like she either getting no stack for him.
Oh, it's beautiful.
What's beautiful am I just tiny is he really really thoughts um okay so falcons are the biggest like
number crunchers there are i think sure so the numbers are pretty crunchy yeah so presumably
there was some crunching some chomping and they decided that the numbers make sense this is this
interesting because the skitter was the skitter's doing it it's because of numbers yeah he's a
numbers guy yeah so I'm I'm honestly super curious to see how this looks how
the economy feels yes because again just remind you ladies and gentlemen you
don't get the XP bonus but the core down 110 seconds down to 90 seconds so
that sort of boost of gold will mean that the item will pay off for itself
a little bit quicker than it used to but of course does mean you're gonna
have this period of the game where you spent two thousand gold on an item
that if it's focused on getting him more money which could be punished by
top-layered FY he's gonna die the xxs get the chargeboard and the grab and the
backup from nothing to say to go through crit trying to turn to how does he
hear that was crazy rise lady senses I won't be able to get anything more so
just a support for support trade yeah it's enough to say hangs around much
up it looks like falcons are completely leaving this area and in the
meantime, Malorin is farming it up, has the bots completed now, this bottle skip build
on Vipers looks really strong.
There we go, this is going to be quite nice, going to think he'd get it, get off the raptor
dons, but after it, nothing else to play with here, I'm completely surrounded by falcons.
He's gone.
That's a pretty bad death, that shouldn't happen.
They both go missing from top lane, where do you think they went?
Most likely gated.
pushed up super far just a lack of comms or lack of map awareness not exactly
sure what it was but definitely not a death that should have happened.
We'll be able to finish off the tower, there's the next key.
Two one gone. I know it's exciting again to see how these these build-ups work
you know we're getting the Midas tiny the battle fury cares
it's a different approach with nothing to say on the midpoint spread bottom lane
of a frostbite onto our mate. Again, he's getting interrupted this time by the stun,
he'll get the heal off here with a wrap to dance, see if they can turn this wrap back.
That comes in, they'll drop the golem, army's still alive, the Shadow Word healing my
mouth will still die there though. What killed him? Askeeda's damaged somehow,
he must have been through a tree at the end, so Skeeda will make sure they
get the kill, but this time it does cost Falcons the life of both their mid
and they're off lane. Maybe even more. I mean, if Fy is here, if you can find something behind the towers,
let's get it keeping us safe distance. So, with the 2-for-1 and the chance, of course, for XG to push on with the golem on this bottom lane.
Some great responses from XG, and it honestly comes down to how well they did in this top lane getting that first blood.
Fy getting the gank off their supports at a very high level on XSS's top network.
The bottom tower going down now. He's gonna have that blink very soon.
Huge plays from the supporting cast of that feed.
And honestly, just sort of the fact that Armei was able to live as long as he did here, couldn't
initially get the cast animation of the raptor dance done, but the second one goes up,
gives him that sustain to live that little bit longer and by his more than enough time for XG to really turn up,
get in a position. Oh, there's the tree. And here it comes, that final tree.
Oh, it's like a tower being just thrown at Armey to ensure that they at least get that because if that didn't come into play, that would have been very rough for Falcons.
I mean, as it was, it was still was rough. They lose the fight. They lose two of themselves. They lose a tower.
XG, want to keep this sort of early, early sort of lead growing here as they go for the smoke with the three of them.
I mean I gotta imagine right if your ex G was here on my top and fuckers also trying to make a move on towards him
But looks like she knows something's up
He's out of that no vision on that so just just spidey senses
Cuz what's the read from actually now that you've you know, you've seen this tiny he's gone to Midas
Do you want to try and punish this?
I think a little bit probably this tiny is definitely not very strong in fights
Viper appears to be
Taking a page out of Laurel's book and going for the crimson guard. It looks like he's got a ring of health
So you would think so. Yep. Yeah, he's going for the crimson
So they're not very strong right now, but they will be eventually is now they've got two aura buyers
I think this is a bit different than the game spirit did it because they had this carry in the off lane
Whereas this game centaur is an aura boy and now you've got Viper who's going aura boy mode with a tiny here
Yeah, typically a giga scaler and he's against the shattered even he's against the primal a warlock some of these anti carry heroes in some ways
So we'll see if this pans out the same way a different spirit. Yes, because I yeah, that's definitely the angle they're going for right
They want to make this tiny the giga carry with this Midas going into the later portions of the game
Let's see if it there. Let's see if it works out. It's gonna be a fun approach here from Falcon
This is doing something a little bit different
Um, here just putting all their sort of eggs in the basket of this late game
scaling tiny carry
See if they can get there or if XG is gonna be able to punish it progress for XG's cause. What do we got?
I'm a pretty much has to battle fury done and
Has nothing to say looking he is just a hundred gold away from the witch blade and indeed
It's gonna be this witch blade into eblade build
Which you say that there's definitely been people testing this and there's been a lot of potential if you can get this online fast
Yeah, it depends a lot on the speed you get it out.
Void Spirit famously a very low damage hero.
So you need to stay on top of those items.
For Void Spirit these down times, these slow bits are not that good for him.
He's not a hero that farms very fast. It's not 15 minutes yet, so he has no shard.
And even if he did, only one point in the queue, so his sort of idle camp farming with the shard is not going to be that fast.
And just Hero will have a tendency to fall behind and be the lowest net worth core if you're not killing people.
And do you think this game as well, is it something about the draft that sort of said
to Amé that he wants to go the battle fury route rather than the deso route that we've
seen from other safe lane kez's or just very much just an army playstyle sort of thing?
I think it's a lot of it's an army playstyle thing.
I think he just doesn't want to have to make moves.
Yeah.
Amé makes moves sometimes if he feels it's right, but I think having that pressure
to make moves, certain players like Amé, 33, these late game oriented players, they
can do it sometimes but they don't want to have to that pressure makes them play
worse I think and so I may definitely fall into that category
Skid up, farm's gonna continue very nicely of course 15 minutes is hit and
immediately spends up for the shard so got the shard, the Midas it's the farming
tiny's dream now at this point so we should start to see him really sort of
rise up there at the ranks of the the net worth it's gonna be an
interesting to the contest between him and the army case battle
Oh boy.
You see, at the bottom, they're going to get the connection.
They've got a lot of burst, a lot of damage.
We're trying to jump away here, but it's surely too much
to survive through.
As...
I don't think it says this.
Don't call me Shirley.
Oh, I tell you what.
He's still living throughout this all.
Is he going to get away?
No way.
He's got the chameleon astral step back up.
I think he's fine now.
The arrow.
Oh, that would be huge.
Oh my goodness, it hits!
It hit him! Does it matter though, another to stimulate?
But that's all of his...
I'm more as honest as pale.
...done and he does the job of making.
See, it's moments like this. That's why he always tells the boys,
hey, let me play the Marana.
He loves the Marana and it's the moments like that.
Okay, not the moments like this though.
As he gets grafted by his excess, they'll definitely try and chase him down.
but tell you what okay he's fine he's fine he's just baited him and kiting him
he's got the backup and a very this one won't hit but yeah those are the kind of
arrows for the Marauder players dream of man there's a reason snaking's full name
is Jingjong the Legolas woo yeah as it snipes them from far that was crazy
very very impressive fight now online as well here for Falcons or is it
coming together don't you gonna make it a little harder for XG to fight
But honestly, it does seem that X-Gear are kind of playing a similar pace to what Falcons are playing because they have, you know, this army battle if you're a Kez, he wants to be hitting the creeps, wants to be farming it up.
So we really could see this game scale up to be a pretty exciting kind of Kez versus Tiny in the late game. Who's going to be the stronger carry?
I think in that matchup it should be the Kez. Tiny, not a hero that buys many of these dispels. He's not a big kiter. He's a commit and hit sort of hero.
Playing each had even playing in cast. I think there's potential for them to just eat this rock alive
Falcons try for a little bit of a smoke
Maybe or is online you compare the two drafts that is one huge difference is extreme have no aura buyers
They've got farmers. They've got sort of isolated individual cores
They may be move makers or fighters, but they are not aura buyers Falcons
They've got a crimson and a pipe completed already. So team fighting down. I
Don't know if it's even close to possible for XG. Yeah, that is I mean what sort of
Sort of leads a team to towards going that approach where they just do indeed not capitalize on or is at all
You know what what sort of also has to be seen in the draft for a team to go that sort of direction
I mean to be honest, there's not that many heroes. They can buy the orders that easily, right?
Centaur, you heard Collapse talk about in his interview yesterday, but he thinks Centaur is good because he can buy auras.
Not every hero has that luxury that it fits their item build.
Nothing to say. He tries to lead in here. Does that back up of that fine army? They might be able to make a fight out of this one, XG.
As Amar has to start stepping back.
The auras.
I mean, indeed, the falcons just able to pop the auras and back away very safely. Won't be able to kill anyone on XG,
but definitely won't be losing any heroes themselves when they're set up in this sort of formation at the moment, falcons.
They need to keep the farm up because they don't have the damage to cut through these heroes right now.
One downside of the auras is they don't really give you much kill threat.
And when you're buying auras on multiple heroes and you're carrying as a farmer,
yeah, Falcon's ability to hunt you down and kill you is very low.
But their blobbing ability, take objectives, to fight for torment through that is very strong.
So if you're actually, you've got to take advantage of that.
Split them out, farm these lanes, get sideburn wards out.
And Falcons, they're not really going to be able to punish you right now until they have more items online.
online blink on tiny blink on centaur then suddenly the map becomes a little bit scary but for now
ah it's not that easy to catch extreme so they can continue to farm up and try to reach a later timing
a falcon's gonna go for another attempt here
to try and set up a team fight situation and Mars looking for the wraparound
how is he there i'm gonna be able to set up onto that
They've got the XG, likely aware that this sort of play is coming in at the least Falcons.
They can set up for the Tormentor.
Yeah, that Tormentor is gone.
Do you want to fight this if you're XG?
No, I think fighting it means not fighting it.
They're gone for it Quinn.
If you were to look into the future, what would you say?
I would see a 5k gold lead for Falcons.
I don't see how they can win this fight.
They're going to try.
Well, the Torments are already going down, so they're definitely not going to be able to stop the Torments going down.
Now the question is, do they still want to try and fly into this?
It looks like they're kind of trying to do so.
At the side of it, Chris can lay down the ultimates.
A very split fight, Arme will be able to jump in and get the kill here against Snaking with the help of X-XS.
Big raptor down is coming off as well, but again, these Auras are giving them pretty good protection on Falcons.
They're trying to burst through it, and I tell you what, he's kind of getting away with it, but Skidding has a big avalanche up under the three of them.
It doesn't matter though, Skidding is still dying, thinking how they make it work.
They do. The fight was so split, I honestly think the execution there from Falcons was not quite on the ball,
but actually having a specific read about how to take this fight, they attacked multiple targets at once.
They sort of concaved on Falcons a little bit, coming from all sides.
As you can see Armey runs around from the back and attacks those heroes. Nothing to say distract the crystal made there very much going on everyone
All over the place. Yeah, no, even the army guys at the end
He absolutely did his job like just full aggression and getting towards these back lines
It took a bit of time for a mark to get back over in range of Mariner's skitter to buff them up with the pipe from the
Crimson and of course at the end this avalanche catches Armey just kill him off
But he ends up doing about three and a half thousand damage in this fight lots being done there by the
I'm impressed. I thought that I was gonna go terribly into the two oras. Yeah
It's a pretty bold move from XG right to make that call to say hey those oras might be online
But we can still outplay them in the team fight it is and I think it's a really good sign for XG that day
Because the obvious easy call there is you know they have or as we don't former items don't fight right that that's that's the call
That most teams would make but XG says no we we cannot play you we think you're stronger than you think we are
Yeah, they prove it. Absolutely. We'll see back in action though. Who stopped into the arrow?
We'll see Exeggust trying to come up with the grab, but already nothing to say has gone.
Arma is here ready to fight back though, and now Skeela in the front of the fight just gets
cramped pulled by XXS. And now on the left alone, also to fall, three dead on Falcon,
snaking, barely surviving. He'll back off again. It's another one of these fights where
actually they're only losing one hero. They're kind of getting two or three in return,
Each and every time and I was getting dying there. That's always gonna hurt
It really will I
I think this is not voting well for Falcons
You've got this Midas tiny and he's in the bottom two network of the course and he has bad core matchups
This is not a good core tiny game. He will not giga carry. They may have
Itemized in that way, but you can only do so much for a hero that is super countered by the enemy lineup
Ex-success on his Primal isn't owning these fights.
I mean...
I think it looks really good for Ex-G right now.
Working on the BKB for Ami once he has that. There's no way he's dying in these teamfights.
I mean, pre-BKB is already getting a lot done in these teamfights, right?
This Kez is doing a lot of damage.
Even with the aura is kind of online, you know, a lot of ways to kind of cut through that
with the overwhelming amount that Kez can do when he gets depressed all his spells.
It's been looking solid in these fights.
Nothing to say. The current big loser is, you know, not super unexpected. The hero just doesn't farm.
You're always going to be the lowest net worth if you're not killing people non-stop.
So, unsurprising, but he will get to that e-blade eventually and his job is not to be the giga-carry.
No.
See, XXX is getting a good grab here. I mean, 10 kings dead and elsewhere.
Armey's picked off Crip. Supports the Falcons starting to falter a little bit.
And I imagine that this is one of those stages of the game where, like, how
difficult does it become for the CM position 4 to still stay relevant in a
game that's starting to crumble a bit like this?
Pretty difficult. You're playing against multiple heroes that can insta-kill you.
I get the jump on X-Nover. So Falcons also fighting some support pick-offs, but the reaction
is going to come in here from XG. Army with the setup, another remnant here for nothing
to say. They're going to quickly burst through them all.
Man, these cores from XG, they've been combining so much this game and it's looked good
every time. Not afraid to bring the numbers to these fights. Falcons, I think traditionally
a team you would think of as much faster, much more aggressive, more punishing team
XG but they've said not today we'll be fighting back and you will not be
running us over. No, absolutely, especially when they play with this sort of
itemization right. They're getting these early auras between the mid and the
offlaner and in this spot I was there close to a big sort of step up in
potential in the teamfights now it's actually out there so they've got the
AGs on Maureen so definitely an extra thing that could be the difference
when XG do try and fight back into the teamfight of Falcons.
And we'll see, because at the moment, as it goes with the kills,
because the XG just getting so much more out of the trade, 16-8 right now.
Obviously, gold difference stays very close, Falcons, between the three cores.
Stab at a farm that's a little bit better, relatively,
because of the fact that there is a void spirit on the other side
that does not have the greatest time, as you mentioned, hitting the creeps.
Viper-Aggs though, it's all about the attack speed and Falcons are not dying to right-clicks
really.
They're dying a little bit to Ami, but he'll be the BKB now, so this attack speed
flow is not a problem for him and everyone else is all magic damage, so I don't know
if this Aggs will really change the dynamics in the fights that much.
Sure.
And I guess the question is, when does the carry-tiny become scary in these fights?
Like, how much more does he need to have to be at the point where he can turn up and truly threaten the cause of XG?
It's a while. I don't think he, on his own, is gonna do that much.
He's sort of a helper for his teammates.
The Adatosses, there's an arrow, they see him follow up.
They kill one guy, they need to play up these combos.
He's tiny, just sitting, trying to straight DPS.
It's not gonna work against these heroes.
You're gonna need to burst them, go in and out, and play a long fight.
Because you just don't have the damage.
to kill these extra heroes now.
With the BKBs online and entire ag,
now at Exit S though,
that magic distance past them,
that's going to get broken.
He's going to look a lot squishier than you expected to.
Rush and go on army with the Aegis,
ready for the next fight.
With vacation on the line,
XG can
feel the summer breeze,
the Bahamas are calling.
You see what they can do.
You wanna imagine that Falcons, you know, again on the gold, it's pretty much dead even.
They're still managing as a team to get as much out of the map as XG.
But even though the gold doesn't show really any sort of major leap for XG, it still very
much is there for them.
I do think they're in a better position, even with an even gold lead.
Just because Falcons heroes, they're not big damage dealers.
all three cores. They're these tanky, helper sort of blob guys, and you're playing in some
serious DPS. From XG, even Warlock. Hero that amplifies people to disseminate. It's a lot
of tools. So close.
Oh my goodness.
Maybe. This is sort of the grand plan from Falcons. You know, Crit, he looked at the
draft, he said, boys, you ain't gonna carry me. I gotta be the CM. I'm gonna buy a bling,
BKB and Aghanim's I'm gonna press freezing field get a rampage and win the game. I would love of that were the case
It's been a long time since I've seen that see impressed holes and everyone dies. That's Chris Planner
He said these guys ain't carrying me. I've got a deal on the CM4. Let's see if he gets to that point
He's trying to of course BKB is indeed Q next and if you got a blimp BKB
You're gonna be getting the axe after that one sir
See if he can do it, Crit. Can he carry this? Just to see, yeah.
Why doesn't this spell give armor anymore? Why did they remove that?
Like, this hero isn't even good. Why did they take away the armor on the ult?
He's going to pop ult and get insta-killed by Khez in 0.1 seconds, even with BKB.
Like, what the heck, pal?
Here comes the push from HG.
They're ready to keep putting this pressure on, with this Aegis on Army.
They take out the mid tier 2.
And there's a butterfly on the horizon too.
Tiny, he's got the Daedalus Q'd up, MPB, it's pretty horrendous on Tiny.
You don't want to buy it, butterfly as good against Tiny as it is against Ursa and messes
with their 6 slot.
There's a lot of items you need and obviously a hero that's hitting for 450 base damage
wants to crit on top of that, just makes sense.
Buying magic damage on a hero that has that much base damage, it just doesn't fit
his inventory.
You don't want it.
So I'm is going to force it into an uncomfortable position with this purchase
BKB here for Viper
So marine
What's that a bit of a better chance of surviving the fight? It's not necessarily though if this case gets on top of him army
Still getting pretty hard
Here's the push bottom lane tier two again Falcons. They do not want to be turning up if your pushes so fast
It's crazy
He just double hits every hit and he's soullered and
The attack speed from the 20 talent. It's going hard wild
Now 30 minutes they want the two men so again here, but this time round
XG will be in they'll be in the area in time to ensure that that no sort of chance of the setups gonna be there from Falcons
And boys gonna start playing around for snaking
Couple of leaps not gonna save him or he didn't even use his eblade show us the eblade
Show us what you got
They get the kill anyway and they're going to get the torment through very easily.
Just choose all the other players.
I mean, they've found a chance to get the jump on XXS whilst he's out on his own.
Oh, put the BKB. Can he play his way out of this?
He's going to try for the TB, but the damage is too much.
So Falcons getting quite an opportunity there.
Big kill to find. That is the first time that XXS has died this game.
Skidder getting the kill there as well.
So a fair bit of gold going over towards the carry. Tiny.
A bit of a lapse in concentration, I think, the way he died, just farming the mid wave
up super disrespectfully in Falcon's area.
It's not the kind of death you want to see, it's not like Falcon's made a move, he just
kind of appeared in their midst, and they were like, okay yeah, we'll take the kill.
Rare mistake.
We saw a point out there by our observer, he just used the Grimoire, had 13 stacks
on it, so he's got a nice two level boost, 15 to 17.
My goodness.
almost about 18. That Golem does get a lot stronger. The HP regen and the armor especially.
Well Skidda, they wanted to finish up the tower. He has got backup coming in here Skidda. Feedly
let's see what they can do. Jumping, good Huston from Amar. Catch it onto the two of
them but the Golem is going to be dropped. Maaring going fully in on towards X-Nove,
but X-Nove has already got his spells off. He's done his job. Skidda though back
in with the combo. Bursting, nothing to stay down. Low to assimilate by Amar.
He reads him like a book. He's ready with the Huston as soon as he comes out
of the Jisimilay, they get the kill at them.
Falcons pulling off a nice move there, good bit of a bait, having Skeeter at the front
and just having the rest of the team connect him from the side, they definitely, they fell
for the bait there actually.
They did and kind of changed feeding a little bit here, giving away some kills back to
back, believe NTS to the gem as well as the feeding that away, always hurts.
It's a pretty big gold swing.
Valkans all in for the tank ability, Mauryan the BKB into Nishiva's next, Amora's got
to load us and now he's going for the heart.
They're saying we may not kill you fast, but we're going to make sure we don't die fast
and we're going to last so long in these fights that you just run out of damage
too.
Yeah.
Nice.
This game has been quite the treat so far.
Just another one of these games where it's staying so close.
teams with very different approaches and not just to one another but different to
what we've been seeing in some of the other games and with the sort of the
dynamic that they have with their carries this time around. See who pays
off for the most both absolutely with a chance to close this up. I won't lie this
boys period does not look very good this game. He did pretty well in the
early game but in these fights he's always dying lowest net worth core it
hasn't looked like the your last pick you know you want that hero to have some
oomph to it generally and he has not had very much of them try to ban them a
moonlight but already xxs him with a grab quick on it's getting very close to
having his bkb done about 600 gold off that recipe dusky does next big I'm
finished up the Daedalus of course still very much keeping eyes on him to see
what he goes for next after the dead list.
Looks like he just wants to finish off the harpoon,
keep his sort of stay slot efficient here
as he's got everything filled up right now.
See the smoke.
If you catch Maureen alone, they'll certainly take that.
Yeah, he could be careful, he's dead.
He may burst, it's a lot of damage
and there's nobody coming to help him.
So Maureen out of the game for 80 seconds.
He's coming up close as well towards where we're going to see the Roshan come into play.
And as we can see with that fully bladed combo, despite the fact that he has gotten that worth,
it still offers a lot of burst damage when he gets these sort of situations where there's
nothing there to stop him and he can just drop the full combo.
Definitely more damage than the expect.
See Falcons, they've got to be a bit careful, they did just leave one of the big kills.
I don't want to lose another core in Amalia. He's gonna get completely out of stereo close to the TP out
And you not want to get caught by this
Especially in this game
It's such a close point xxs big items continue to fly up for him refresh your online
It's a tannic for army to these are huge purchases primal beast in these later stages of the game is an absolute
maness
doesn't even have the long grab yet, but
Just the two normal grabs, two BKBs, two Trampols, even two Rocks.
You accumulate this massive AoE with the slams.
It stacks up, and when you throw this Rock, it's gonna hit the whole screen.
My goodness.
It's an asteroid.
It's probably just a dinosaur kind of, so wiping out his own feces.
This fight's gonna be crazy.
And Skita's still deciding where he wants to go next.
First at the harpoon, upgraded the echo queued up, now he's kind of queuing up the lincons, I mean where does he need to go and does he indeed need this lincons?
Does he have to get this extra defensive item to be able to play these fights?
Very good against Shadow Demon, very good against Primal, I can definitely see the rationale, it makes sense.
There's not that many easy ways for XT to break it, they have some ways though, Tess can throw his little dart thing, I don't know what it's called.
Witsbury, can he blade him? So there's some things, but...
Those spells are definitely big problems for Tiny, and against Primal in general, stacking Lincoln spheres is rarely a bad option.
It's a huge part of this hero's impact in the later stages. Lotus's, Lincoln's, preventing a lot of his combo in fights.
That's my time from Falcons. They want to look for this fight here, coming up to the moments where Roshan is close for respawning.
Let's see if they can bring it together for this teamfight.
Ah, he's going to try it for the opening.
The Houston backup comes in.
They can play the way out.
This one, the defensive destruction.
Bytes doesn't have a chance to fight back.
They've got the remnant grab on the skin.
We're going to beat them up.
But Armey's now in on top of them.
Armey will get tossed into the air for now,
but he's still in onto the tiny tearskeeter apart.
Armey's still full HP, marrying up on the cliff.
But Armey's ready to jump up and look to finish him off
as well as mawring surrounded by XG, jump off from nothing to say catch his crit on the back lines.
And I can't help but feel that in these teamfights where both teams similar in that work,
there's just such a huge difference in what army can do on the Kes as opposed to skier on the Tiny.
This hero, we've seen it quite a bit this tournament. We have not seen it on Kerry and
I'll be honest, I think there's a reason for it. They picked it in this game into Warlock,
into Shattered Demon, into Kes. They knew it would be a bad tiny game as more of the
game passed, but they decided no. We think we can snowball. We want it for the early game.
We want it for the stun in our draft, but it has not looked very good at all. And off
that teamfight, they may lose a lot of buildings here. This Kes here pushes very fast.
It really does, yeah. It's going to absolutely destroy the base of Valken's here.
they do to stop this. It's definitely going to be one set of barracks. Likely even more
here if you actually want to stick around. It does certainly feel like it's just a real
testament to the sort of strategy that Falcons went for this game. It's just not worked
out so far because of the fact that they can't sort of look back and say, ah, well,
we got out farmed at the beginning, we didn't have the money. They did. It's pretty
much level in there worth this entire game but just such a different in the
outcomes that these team fights it does feel like they got out strategized by
actually to be honest they even got the jump right they were the ones who started
despite this head we think this is a good opportunity and it was not a good
opportunity just feels difficult they just can't deal with this test it
really cool
This primal beast as well, Axe-XXX is an amazing game, super cool.
I mean, drunkers, they're gonna try again for a fight in this position.
GD on Tiny, hits for 900.
Alright, Steeda can get the initial burst.
Oh, he's in with the jump.
Steeda in return though, Axe-XXX has got the crap onto him.
I'll pick him up in the car.
I'm trying to bail him out of this one.
See if they can jump him after this.
He's in the middle.
Maury is trying to go for Kes, but Armey, he's just fighting back.
Skidder will come back in with a combo.
Can he finish Armey off though? He cannot.
Armey's just gonna keep running towards him.
Skidder's got it back away.
XXX charges forward. Skidder turns once more, trying to do the damage.
But Armey in onto Maury, and the Redneck grabs there for nothing to say as Maury will fall.
Armey moves over to Walsh.
Skidder, the tiniest dead once again.
And Armey basically untouched.
Pull HP.
They've got nothing.
Nothing against the Kev's right now bird on bird warfare, and the Falcons their wings have been clipped
Malry no buyback straight up to the base. He gets on army. How can you stop this bird?
Ready for this they cannot
Mami
Ready to clean up the base
Falcons have they got one more fight in them
I'm ready at the side, aren't I?
I'm in my hunt here.
I'm just caught by the Remnant.
I mean, I'm ready.
He's ready to go in, especially with x-axis leading the way.
Finds crit here in the tree line.
Has crit gone.
Amar on the run.
He's ready to start diving the fountain.
Another Remnant grab on towards Amar.
He'll get the hoof stump off and the stampede.
He'll live for now, but this game's over.
They tap out.
They know that there's no way to swing this one back in their favor.
XG take game 1, Falcons, it's a different approach. It was it was exciting to sort of see at the beginning
But as you were sort of saying throughout this whole game even though it was basically equal on the net worth
It really just didn't matter the tools that Falcons had could do nothing
Against the lineup that XG brought to this game one. No the clock was ticking and actually woke up to play today
You heard in the interview that Aiden showed
X Nova, he wants some of that revenge, and he's halfway there to getting it, a big victory,
and they drafted while they played. Well, this is an impressive showing from XG. One
of the best we've seen in a long time since PI, I think.
That really did look like it. Everything fell into place very nicely, and another
one of those situations where, you know, even though the mid, nothing to say falls
behind on the goal, still let it have good impact. You know, and the game with
respectable scoreline, 5-3 and 12, but yeah, as you were saying earlier, definitely
to start to show me X-XS on his primal and with how much he was able to do to start things
up and just set up these fights for our mate to have the dream time as the carry. He was
cleaning up and there was just nothing left in the tank each and every team fight from
Falcons to barely scratch the surface of this test.
No I completely agree. X-XS, he was everywhere. He was keeping these fights. He was super
He performed, he won his lane, he farmed the stacks, he did everything for them, 8-1-13,
an impressive scoreline for an impressive player, X6S I think, all the times the rocked for extreme
and showing it here once again.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Falcons, they tried something different this game, you know, some CM4, some safe lane
tiny Midas, probably not going to do that in game 2, we'll see what they bring there,
but as for game 1, XG, they look very impressive and take the win.
One zero one two one zero one at one one zero. I'm not a programmer Jenkins. Oh, I thought you spoke binary in Sweden
No, we don't you don't know
Wow, what a game. I'm still loaded you from yesterday. Oh
Dude, I feel you're gonna. What is people are gonna believe you're not a bit. You're too good at acting. I'm like a horrendous actor
Yeah, that was a misdemeanor. Let's not talk about that. We'll talk about team Falcons first
Yeah
What do you think about that one you were saying that you don't think extreme is good you've gotten I feel like they
Were not playing very well throughout this event. I think they kind of scraped by I made up what I just said
And but that was actually your opinion. Yeah, I feel like they kind of scraped by yeah
And I feel like falcons that tougher opponents, but in this matchup. It looks like you know, excuse me
Look way better than falcons. It was like kind of sloppy fights
I had a really good point to make, but you made me do this stupid bar section instead,
so I couldn't do that.
People are going to believe you did it.
I am beating your junkets, guys.
Stop!
Okay, okay, okay.
What was your point?
Well, I told you, Snakey wants items, and he wants to use items in fights.
And Exnova just wants to do it.
As like a player, like that's the type of entity.
Yeah, he's like an items player.
Yeah.
Snowbaugh is like his bell caster and he got like this perfect like three-man fatal
bombs. Yeah, just like cook the fight. As soon as that one off, Raptor Dance came out, he
did like the whole thing like this and then amazing, you know? Yeah, that does a lot of
damage with fatal bombs for sure. Can you feel about Warlock in general? Because that
hero was really overpowered, not, okay, overpicked. It was picked a lot, but I feel like it's
contentious issue like is warlock good is it overrated I feel like if you ask
carries they love it yeah because they're like my boys they mean with me as you
can get you on the airy through the lane yeah and they can pick anything you know
like you see warlock in a whole world as my oyster and then you ask midlaners
are like the serious shit because he shows up to the room fight he like puts
he doesn't show up to the room fight that's the thing and if he doesn't get
kills on lanes he's not level 7 for the exp or level 6 for the exp room and
What do you even do it?
Yeah, I'm not I'm not personally don't enjoy playing it that much
I'm a big fan of holding the black grimoire to get your level 25. Oh, yeah
But I think yeah, because you're winning people over at the shower
Yeah, because the later the game goes the more impact your big decisions have
That's Dota is known. They call it the the caterpillar effect
The later things go the more your decisions impact the past
I see. Alright, you should always be looking back and thinking about what you could have done better in the game itself
What are you even saying? Where were what were you doing ten years ago?
Okay, how come you played SF Offlane so many games and pros never did it?
That's a good question cuz I watched you play SF Offlane and it honestly did not look that bad. Why do you watch my stream?
I can't watch your stream. Your stream is good fun. I don't get it. I want to do it.
Yeah, but you're sure it's fun really good players. You don't watch streams to watch good players except often. That's true
If you think somebody goes like quick forward work stream, they're like, I'm gonna watch you
Geez not those guys entertainment. You want to see somebody smash their keyboard?
Thompson Thompson stream is good. It actually is such a good stream. Yeah, we are lucky
He has our luck. He has a reinvigorated the golden age of Dota content for real for real
I genuinely believe that.
I agree. That's why I said for real for real.
Yeah, because then I know.
Yeah, and I wouldn't take the Lord's name in vain.
So I said on the pod.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which God? Gabe Newell?
Yeah, that's good.
You know what was actually the S tier peak in Dota content?
What?
Was when the one month period that they had party queue,
you could five stack in party.
At least in NA we had like
literally every pro player
was playing in like five stack together.
together you had all of eG you know you mean when party mmR was like introduced
when when solo mmR and party mmR were merged but you could five stack in
ranked so you literally had like all of TSM when it had tomato playing against
like all of eG like our TC, sumail and they were it was like actual scrims
you're just hearing the comms and everyone really cared because it was
for mmR yeah I don't know if that was the thing in Europe but in NA it
It was like these streams had insane numbers and you're watching and I could just I could watch it
That's so cool, why are we having more of that?
You know, so back when I played the name that should all be named
Everybody trio queued, that was like a norm
It was always like a trio and a duo
Yeah
Every game
So you always would have like trios of like pro players
Yeah
With like two friends playing together, you know
And it would make like kind of fun games
Because people would be kind of try hard
In the pub games and you had like some coordination and stuff like
Was there ranked?
Ranked was just like everybody partiqued. It was like the norm, solo queueing was like...
So was there like...
You did it when you were...
Individual MMR?
No, it was all the same.
It was all the same.
Yeah, if you partiqued or solo queued it didn't matter.
That's so in... it's so interesting to think that back in the day there was a point where
We all just queued party.
Yeah, and then there was no number.
It's fun to play with your friends, dude.
I think people often forget that, how fun Dota is.
So much more fun to play with your friends.
You know what I think esports people underestimate is the amount of people that are out there that play like one day of turbo
With the lads like once per month. Yeah, and they're Dota fans and this is why our player base is really really high
There's a lot of people to do this, but they don't follow
Competitive they don't follow. What are the best heroes?
They're just coming back playing turbo for like one day every month all of my old Dota friends is what they do now
Yeah, I mean I'm gonna be honest like since I quit TI if I play a pub I do not I could not care less that the hero is like
Good or bad. Yeah, I would just play whatever I feel like playing so like I'll pick SF and I'll go off late
What's the guilty pleasure SF's the guilty pleasure? I like playing SF. It's good, isn't it? SF and then recently it's been puck. Puck is really fun
Too hard if you have muscle memory from like old puck now. There's all these buttons you have to press
I actually feel like it's the opposite for me now. I can't imagine
Warbing and it going only yeah, that feels like
I was like, how's that even a hero?
Is it the late game you're playing for on Pock?
Like, what's the, there's always the pleasure part, right?
You get to a certain build and you're like, this is so good.
Okay, my favorite thing to do is to dive
like way too many towers, way too early in the game.
I don't wanna be like a pro player Pock
that's like not dying and whatever.
I wanna like dive as aggressively as possible
and kinda get away with it, but most of the time it's not.
But then one time you get away with it.
You get away with it, that's what you ride the high of.
Yes, yes.
This is asset for me as well.
Like the one time that you requiem someone out of the trees,
blink in, triple raise,
it's some like puck Ember spirit you're not supposed to be able to kill.
But you just outskill them by doing that.
It's like those highs are worth riding forever.
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And we are in an elimination series. We have only elimination series today
It's the first one of the day is extreme versus falcons in game one
Taken by extreme gaming falcons not showing up too much. We're gonna find out if uh, you know, they have the
The first game of the day issue or if it's just a bigger issue as they did talk about
While staking this is the staking sword. He says that they were trending downwards
Was that about how he said it?
I had that for the groove stage, but he feels like they're now getting back into shape.
But it has.
Yeah, but it's not looking like it.
I just think you cannot pick Crystal Maiden.
I like that.
I don't know if I'm like too locked in on this one hero.
But I just feel like if you pick C.M., you are forfeiting the game.
Especially when you're Blaspic.
When you're putting Crit on Crystal Maiden.
And it wasn't overall, yeah, you gotcha!
Overall, that's the Crystal Maiden.
It was Crit's still Maiden.
I mean, I think Crit can play anything. You can put him on any hero. It's going to be fine.
But give him a hero that provides him with the tools necessary to make things happen.
That's what I'm thinking. Of course he can play, but do you really want him to?
Crit is such a high-skill player. I feel like he is the guy that often makes a lot of the plays in a game for Falcons.
So you want him on a hero that has more options to do that than a Crystal Maiden.
Maiden
Whereas you know even putting snake being on crystal maiden he just wants like you said to play for items
Yeah, maybe that makes a lot more sense. It's why he has played it for a long time when it was a good on the patch for sure
And I said also touching on snaking he
Wait, oh
He's so tempted to make a joke he's so tempted you guys need to steal a cost
I don't know if you're happy with the wall.
Yeah, I'll check if you like the thickness, Jenkins.
Oh my god, that is unbelievably thick. I don't even know how that fit in there.
Who paid for it, Jenkins?
Who paid for the creation of the wall?
I'm like, okay, dude.
Should we leave it in?
Is it ever a good choice?
I don't... that's like...
LaCoste, any jokes?
You want to see me fired?
What did I do to you?
Why are you doing this to me?
I don't know. I think it's too warm in there.
It's cooking.
Probably I need to get it out of the system.
Otherwise I can't pull it. I need to stay it.
Otherwise I can't focus on other things I can.
Go ahead.
Just drop it. That's what she said.
There we go. We can continue now.
I don't think they showed him on camera, but he was crying so hard not to see someone.
He's alright!
He's getting really hot in here.
He's from the oven.
Oh my god.
Urseless Band!
Yeah, I mean Urseless Band last time and I think it created a lot of issues for them.
They probably felt like a lot of the heroes over good boss game were good because there was no Urseless Band after them.
I'm a good hero for Falcons. Crystal Maiden this time.
Put it in the lane against Primal Beast. It's a hero that he doesn't like to play into.
Synergize as well with Ursa. But there are other better heroes in the game.
So probably...
Aiden?
Do you want me to hit on Sam?
You're getting old.
Alright, it's fine.
Not on camera.
I had a glove. I was doing the Doctor Glove...
Oh, we get to look at Amelio.
Cross-State joke.
Something says it has to be in the oven for four to six minutes
What happens if you leave it in for eight minutes in the oven as if it is a cookie?
I think you're good. I don't know. I think you're good because it's too thick to only last for five to six minutes
If you keep opening the door the temperature is not that good. There's four to six minutes of eight minutes
Probably fine now. You keep checking
Yeah, he's getting
The cookie in this oven is getting darker. Yeah, well I take the cookie take the cookie out
out of the oven yeah yeah and Sadio I just suggested something it did happen it's good
it's good this time you like it more because of the XCM into primal you're good until primal's
level 15 yeah once he's all 15 you are once again returned to another hero state with a second
No, but I will see even even before 15 you're gonna have this item called BKB
Yeah, I mean, okay, so the thing is the spells on daughter are just way too good. Yeah, and yeah
Like so everybody will buy this spells whether see ever just
Unless you're picking her against heroes that specifically don't want to buy the spells like some storm amber whatever they don't want to buy like
Mantas then the hero has like quite good value
though I will say CM or something very strongly and these two heroes to recognize
quite well in the game as well they can play off of each other quite nicely so I
do like this kind of CM way more I want the CM the reason why I suggested it
because I do like this maiden as a five I can't lie yeah I'm gonna make them
agree against primal beats so that he can't use his trample yeah the
extra slow kill threat with Ursa in the lane. Definitely punishable.
Yeah. And I also say how much, so you guys can see it at home, but we have a TV that
literally only shows Amme to us. And I am so thankful to production. I have never seen
Amme on my screen for this long, and I'm just appreciating it.
Yeah, you can't spell camera without Amme.
True. Good point.
How does your brain work like that?
I don't know.
Nice. Good point. Good point.
It's not Ami anymore. Sorry.
Peter instead.
Can't spell Malarine without camera.
Or without Ami.
Can't spell Malarine without Ami.
It's too much now.
Good point.
Too far. Keep it up.
You can't spell Amar's full name without Ami either.
Okay.
Amar.
Like his full name.
Yeah. Amar.
Amar.
Are we happier with this crystal maiden out of the five where you're still? Yeah, we did you were focused on the oven
Yeah, we mentioned already people at home are happy. They're done listening to stuff about CM
Great. How do we feel about extreme gaming's first three then? I?
Like falcons more right now. I feel like this first pick Ursa has like not been I
Don't feel like he's see anything that's gonna make him be very sad yet
And that's quite surprising because usually when you see a hero you kind of want to answer it you want to
Like respond with this something of a similar like of a
Hero that is in the position that responds to it
It's not very sense. Yeah, if you say carry you usually want to pick an offlaner you see it
And also you want to pick a carry. Would you say that's a very blitz
way of thinking about the game
I think it's a general kind of like, I think crafting has like some simple rules that everybody follows
And that sometimes you deviate from them or xy reasons.
Holy moly, they picked Kez into Ursa.
That's not good.
That's no good.
As Marston said, that's no good.
And not really the biggest fan of it.
I feel this has to be the worst matchup when it comes to carry to carry matchup.
You just can't come back into the fight unless you're the one who's initiating onto Ursa with some primal beast of the
Deadshot into silence then the ring master off if you can lock him down from hundred to zero
There is a bit of a save coming on from tusk
Not the easiest matchup to play when you're playing into murder like if you get clipped by if he places
the calling right on top of Ursa even if you blink in you can still snowball save him snowball
Pick up radius that's the one taken Jenkins has also been nerfed by 25 or 50
Yeah, 25 25. Yeah, it's unplayable now. You can't save anyone anymore
The nerf to the ground. Yeah, too bad. Yeah, I could hear on anymore
Unplayable great synergy with Mars and Lane. I feel like that's a that can definitely punish a
Has plot where you think Kez plus ringmaster as the safe one
I think it's gonna do more like to play ring
Then work yeah, so I do feel like you can you can punish a ring master for sure
Unless he has the the fart bag then he can jump out of the
The ice you also have like the boxes like
Surprisingly decent against us because you can't hit it someone that's box
So half the like targeting duration can get messed with that way you think about early box then probably not
But it's like decent against us like for down the line potentially
Wow, you move against if he's also here in the music
What does the same thing like you because it's you're playing against two Maley's they pop pop the back team
You just pushed them back. So it's quite effective. Yeah
But I feel like for Falcons a lot nicer than the last drop right yet on toss
Snake King is now playing the Maiden. Crit was quite farmed on the Maiden.
With the Shard you can push out waves quite easily.
I think Snake is going to now take over that role a bit more. Crit more on the Temple.
We have an Amar Mars, Skeeter. Ursa I feel like is like perfect hero for him.
It scales, but it can also be active during moves.
And Mal Ring gets the last check of the draft. Take his own hero here.
So traditionally I think against Ember you always look for Monkey King, Vascar, as those are like our two main bands both out.
Lardar, Earthshaker, or Slardar is out as well. I mean for Malarini I do think Earthshaker, but I don't know how good of a hero it is in general.
Is Earth's spirit decent?
Yeah, it could be.
I'm not sure.
Earth's spirit both?
Oh, they go for Tiki.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, that's a good one too. I feel like last draft they were experimenting a bit now. They're like let's just do what we know
Yeah, it's a snake King cm. I mean, which is what we expected. Yeah makes a lot more sense like
This is a
April Falcon's draft. Yeah, be honest like this is exactly what you'd expect them to pick in any tournament and this team has purpose against Denver
I think it's quite good. I think honestly, I
Can't believe I'm about to say this but I quite like the crystal-mated draft. Yeah, looks really good
Also carry-to-carry matchup. We already mentioned it a couple of times. It's just really bad for the burb and
Nothing to say in this one. He's playing in a good amount of stuns as well Amar on his
signature Mars
Which is very good against both the supports as well. I want to see which facet he's gonna be playing
I assume you're playing against ring master. So you want to be getting the blood sport facet
No, I still 40 seconds, but I'll check anyway
has a timer I'm gonna put something in the oven without a timer guys that's a
what that's a lot you just won't be on the production and probably yeah I won't
be 1v10 action situation so like love is right there that's good management
gonna assist assist there is not done supporting the other production L yeah
Yeah, I agree with you guys for sure, I think this is a classic Falcons draft, I think they have winning lanes, winning matchups in the game.
I feel like Xtreme has got a snowball off of some good moves in the laning stage, something like that if they want to win the game.
I mean I think a Kez lineup can always snowball, like that hero even against Ursa can look really good if he's just getting kills.
I mean I feel like I saw again next year's Navi they were there was a similar draft position in my mind where like
They had conditions to win the game where they bring more heroes to fights
They're bringing more numbers to try to like outnumber the enemy teams draft them like create these situations that aren't part of like the
Normal script and win the game that way so it's possible and they have proven that they can do that
Well, let's see what's going to happen there. Yeah, we are gonna head to game number two
I think a lot of those are hoping for a third game to the series, but Fox has got a step up to make this first on main board.
Now let's first hear some poor jampanas!
Hello ladies and gentlemen, we're just getting ourselves ready for this game, we just have
to sort out some lobby issues, so we should be able to start pretty soon.
Quinn, what are you making this game to?
We're getting some similar stuff, of course, you know, I'm very happy to go with the Kez
once more after his Game 1 performance, but from Falcons, they do change things up and
it feels a bit more reliable, we're getting these DK's, we're getting these urses.
Yeah, these heroes are very strong, they're very reliable and they're very reliable
for Falcons, they're experts on this hero, it's not like they're playing out
of their comfort zone it's something that was good last patch that they're individually good on that's
also good this patch and I think that's the recipe for falcons especially when a new patch comes out
they don't want too much new stuff it's not a team that likes adapting they like playing their stuff
now positive we're just rejoining the lobby uh boys and girls there was a quite a funny bug
actually when the game yeah then there was one one of the one of the heroes was missing
but we should be able to remake and get all of all of the heroes in so we can have a good
5 versus 5. We're just trying to find our lobby. Quinn, where's the lobby?
I don't know. I'm trying to find it. I'm looking.
Usually we have the same issue.
You guys can feel it. We're just trying to sort out this lobby issue.
What's going on?
Cursor, start the game!
Wait a minute. I hear it from us this time.
Where is it?
We're trying to find the game.
Ovencam, Ovencam, Ovencam.
Ovencam.
Ovencam, Ovencam.
Ovencam.
fake, fake, fake, fake, fake!
GER Here's a large...
Oh, he's- Oh, he's pressed stop the game.
Oh, hey, Gaster's start the game!
He's starting it!
Gaster's start the game!
Gaster's start the game!
Oh, no!
Gaster's start the game!
Gaster's start the game!
Gaster's start the game!
Gaster's start the game!
Like, Gaster's parking with all the chanting.
Come on, chant.
What do you think of Gaster?
We will, we will rock you!
Buddy, a young man, man, man, man, man, man.
Put it on your face.
What the hell are you saying?
Thank you. We're a team, man.
We are a team. Let's go!
Good job, good job, everyone.
We're not part of the team yesterday.
He's crazy beefing with us.
I know the answer!
With lobby shiver.
You would never do that to us, right?
No, I would not. But I also wouldn't know as many answers as he does.
So, you know, I'd definitely be part of the team where the hype might come out.
Because he said D.Va, they feed him the answers in advance.
I think so.
It's like before they even started playing he was like you could see in his face. He's like I know
But but I also say he does know these things. I don't think so
I think production was giving it somebody with a beard like that is a diva. That's a diva
For sure how it does a beard get so pampered without the help of other people and this demands that he's making the
Look let's keep with that one awesome baking paper. Yeah. Good luck peel that off
Good luck. We need two of those right? Okay. Let me move that you can put it here
Yeah, we needed another one.
Well, that's...
That's a crack.
Yeah, 5-7-1.
That's the only mic I have.
Which hero didn't load it?
Whose fault is it?
I think it was the Ringmaster.
The Ringmaster.
It wasn't even the...
It was Hexnerb's fault right here.
His hero literally just was not in the game.
I've never seen it before.
That was like your life's fault.
Like, he just said,
I'm missing.
I missed...
I missed...
He was not in the...
There was no Remaster.
He was in the lobby,
but his hero didn't spawn.
It was the...
I've never seen that before.
It's a quick existential crisis
in the morning for Hexnerb.
Are you guys surprised that it's the pause 5?
No.
I'm not.
It's always the pause 5.
It's always the pause 5.
They're always goofing.
We've started the game.
The game has started.
We've started it.
Here we go.
So ladies and gentlemen, apologies about that little bit of a delay but we've fixed
it.
We've started it.
We're ready to go.
Game 2, ladies and gentlemen, Extreme versus Falcons. Long story short, after that Game 1 Falcons, they've definitely gone back to the basics here with this draft, and it's a good basic swing.
It is. It's super comfort for them. Two masters, three masters here, and two grandmasters. You couldn't get more comfort than that.
Let's see what XG can do against it, once again, XG sticking with some of the similarities
that they had in Game 1, understandably so, after that fantastic game from XXS on his Primal
and from Armey on his Kez, they stick with those.
Let's see how it works out here, because without a doubt they should definitely be
tested a little bit more than they were in Game 1, where their draft and strategy
just completely destroyed what Falcons tried to bring.
Yeah, this mid lane last game was supposed to be a hard matchup, but nothing did say did pretty well
This lane is also supposed to be hard. So I'm curious to see how he does
Playing its Maureen's DK a hero that he is very well known for extremely confident on
There with the dead shot I mean that's a ma dead that's gonna be first blood going the way of XG
Noa says I was missing last game, but I'm here this time as a kill for me
See ya in Lanemar. I'll have a little more gold than you.
Very nice setup there between...
There's a lot of burst damage to threaten very early on.
Now I guess the question is, last time round we saw Armour have a very chill time in the lane,
had to back up the support sustained from the Warlock.
This time it's gonna be him alongside the Ringmaster.
How does sort of the dynamic change? Like is this going to be a little bit less easy of a lane
or is it still pretty darn strong from XG?
What would you say?
I think it should still be pretty easy.
Kess sounds pretty good against Tuff's to me.
If you ever press attack, you can just jump away
with whatever it's called, grappling claw or something.
Grappling claw, yeah.
Yeah, so it sounds pretty chill to me.
Right off the bat, Maureen already doing much better
in this lane.
This lane is just hard because DK has so much more
damage than you, and you just spam these brief fires
and just deny creeps.
You can already see Maureen with five denies.
That is not a normally number on these early waves.
And it only gets harder as the right clicks come in,
as the passive points come in, that minus armor,
and you beat the crap out of them.
And for the ember, did the patch sort of change anything
in terms of what we can expect from a build up
on an ember spirit, an optimization,
or is it pretty much the same ember from last patch
in the way you want to play it?
I think the only thing it changes is you probably take
the 15 damage 15 talent of the Fling Guard DPS.
Sure.
OK.
Whereas before it was a choice, depending on the game now,
I think you probably just only picked the Fling Guard DPS.
But other than that, 10 error.
Of course, last time round, one of the major parts
of nothing to say being able to come out the laning
was the fact that they did bring quite a bit of early support
focused towards the mid.
Do you sort of see them doing that again, this game, XG,
Or is it a bit tricky trying to do that into a DK?
It's a bit trickier, and I also don't think they're gonna have freedom to do so.
You can look at top lane already, Ursa coming out significantly ahead, and
if Martha is tied to the lane, if your force is to stay here and help your primal, or he's gonna get nothing in the lane,
that means no ganks coming into this mid lane.
And we all know what happens when DK gets fixed,
turns into a dragon, and he spits on your tower relentlessly until it falls.
actually supports will see if they're able to actually pry themselves away from these slightly harder lanes and do something in the mid
Now top lane is definitely not a walk in the park
Getting doubled up on CS by this bear that we have seen have a lot of success to turn it so far
Yeah, but this here I just I feel like this here rarely feels like a bad carry pick run
it just in so many situations this here has the answers and
And without a doubt has that sort of much better chance of having a match up right against the Kez
It's just completely different to what we saw last game reference. He done the tiny way
He could do nothing once this case is on top of him this time round
He could turn stand this ground and threaten the Kez
You know if they're similar network likely much more than the Kez can threaten him
Definitely, I think if anything maybe if it's surprising they picked has into the Ursa probably
from how it seemed yesterday like Ursa is pretty good against the Kez also with
this disperser change gives you a really nice item build a more kiting ability on
the Ursa because you can just buy that you don't have to buy this nullifier this
awkward item on it disperser feels so much better but still gives you that
counter to the Ghost Uptters honestly a really big deal for this hero probably
the biggest reason why he's stronger now even bigger than the
short change. The mid lane. He continues to be there. 20-9 against the 14 and 6.
I want him laying next to him, but he's going to try and chase Crit down. Crit very low.
He's just got a verify to rely on if X never does manage to get the setup onto him.
I'm surprised they didn't dagger him earlier.
Uh, yeah, Chris's gonna get the chance to walk off.
That was some strange spell casting.
If he daggered him earlier.
Well, from the high ground, though.
Yeah, before whipping him, and just hits him a couple more times, I feel like he dies.
Very weird.
I think I just misbreed this hero, but it felt like he could have killed him.
Oh, he kills him anyway.
He does.
Well, does he?
Well, he does need...
Nobles there to dodge the whip.
He does.
He'll get the job done at the end of the day.
Thanks.
Now, what takes Crit down?
A kill's a kill in Aamei.
Doing maybe even better than he did last lane.
He's having a great time in the 1v1 that was sort of, you know, obviously occurring
because of this whole sort of support distraction to the side.
He's more than happy to just trade CS here with Amar.
Taz, I think it also should be pretty good against Mars.
Do you ever go arena and you can press the spinny spell?
Falcon Dance, is that what it's called?
The Raptor Dance.
Raptor, Raptor Dance, yeah.
And a hero that does well against Mars and Lane
is a good hero against Mars generally.
If that hero gets up to a bad start, can have damage issues.
Oh shoot, the game.
That's gonna work out.
Oh my goodness.
Can't get out of the combo there completely controlled
and consistent damage just laid down on towards him.
And that, that's big to sort of make that move happen with just the one support coming in towards the mid.
As you said, this was not going to be an easy game to do that, but I guess now that they're in a state of the game where XXS can start cutting the creep waves, it does get that freedom for FY2 to make these moves.
Yeah, they waited till the 5 minute mark where Primal can go cut the waves freely, does it to tier 3 and gives FY enough freedom to come mid. That's a huge kill.
And we've seen this matchup sort of shift a little bit.
He's in the river.
They're gonna get themselves another catch him.
Crick goes down.
FY, making some nice moves here around the mid lane.
And ensuring that nothing to say starts to get again that little bit of a boost that he did get out at the landing stage last time as well.
Thanks to these support plays.
And Falcon's kinda getting outplayed in this early game.
When can you really remember that happening on a consistent basis?
Such an incredible early game team.
There's not often and this new ember build really has shifted this matchup somewhat buying this vessel rush and
Maxing these chains gives you way more kill from in the DK early game
It seems like he's not as easy of a time actually pressuring
The towers we've seen in the past and now nothing to say cutting the wave as well
It seems like this power is gonna be chilling this play down bottom
Army it's gonna be able to dodge the spear and he has backup because X know of an FYI turned up for the brawl further
TPs will be coming in from Falcons
They actually have to be a little bit careful, can they win this fight for the Wisdom?
While Leeds lines up the sides, connects onto both of them, they do turn them, first X-Over, but here's nothing to see with the change!
That's a Margon, Crit dead as well, and with the Raptor Dance Succession going on, they've got to run!
Skeeter's falling, Snakey's going to get chased down!
This is disastrous for Falcon's triple kill for nothing to say!
They did Instagram for the... did there's our visual glitch?
the wisdoms nice it was the mistake it was taken okay those are the visual glitch
towards the end right who got it no I think they didn't what so are we
blind I think they didn't stick around to get the ways it's still there I think
it's still there they just but they were like well which of the fight will walk
I don't pick it up I forgot wait but I think I think Balkans think they took
it too wait nobody took it why does it look like it's what is it what this
This is before 7 minutes. No, I don't think anyone took it at the end of the fight.
Well, the Falcons think it's taken. I've never seen this before.
Well, you understand Falcons? Yeah, there's no way Falcons are going to back over, but we'll see at the end.
Now, who on XT should have stuck around for it?
I mean, anyone could have just remembered, but they all forgot.
Nobody took it. It was like a bit of...
They didn't want to go too hard on the Falcons, you know, XT's like,
Well, we just got a massive team fight. We'll let you have that wisdom, but it just didn't take it.
Uh, okay. Well, that's still great moves, of course. You're back in action, you know. I didn't go down, but yeah.
Okay, wisdom's still there.
This might be the first pro game ever where the Wisdomer doesn't get taken in a minute.
After so much was put into that fight around the wisdom, it was like, we're gonna fight for this!
But the fight was so chaotic, I forgot what they were fighting for!
Anyway, back in action, nothing to say, does get Core, he's got one remnant, but that will not get him away.
Oh, my big Echo Slash is coming from Army, so they'll lose nothing to say, but Army is able to find the kill and return, takes down our Ma.
X Nova, probably gonna get Core out of here, was trying to come in from a bit of an awkward angle.
Foul comes just back up, clean him up as well, but, uh, will someone check that Wisdom?
I don't know if they will, why would they go back to the 2 camps right now?
It might actually go all the way and if it reaches for team right, it's just wasted. Yes, it's just eyes. Yeah
That would be that would be the first it's gonna be one of first programs where it gets wasted. I think it might be the first one
Like the the later ones sure sure the first one that's the important one. That's the one that yeah, that one matters the most
That one's actually important
Middle tower, under attack.
That's a safe bottom lane. Falcons are...
Setting up as it seems to maybe go for this dive, Skeeter wants to get involved.
Ah, he's in!
He's gonna let you try and go for army. Backup's coming in though and army's able to get the raptor down, so Falcons they're gonna start backing off down.
This is not good for them. They gotta run.
Okay, he just missed chains or nothing to say, so looks like crit's gonna live because of that.
Never remnant to play with them. You can still close and chance gonna be back up in a couple of second
X-XS is gonna be able to get the grab off. They've caught Amar
They're gonna be able to take this down. Are they gonna maybe maybe stop on coach over the wisdom
Oh shoot, maybe you're right. They might still get it
But again, there's no real reason for them to go that direction. So probably won, but they'll get the fear one
Man, X-XS is playing. They're playing amazing
They have had great rotations
X-XS the big winner in all that
Fighting that happened bottom earlier, get a ton of XP, catches up after a really rough landing phase.
And skitter now, he blow his DK and blow two of the cores of XG after being giga top net worth before.
I think that's fine.
Oh, there's a DK down, he's very not fine.
Surprise, the dragon knight.
Questions, come out or you get out?
I mean, it's kind of alone here.
That's true, and they've not got too many TP's to throw into this play, so they can't punish Falcons for that.
Falcons for that one Falcons finding a chance. I'm like, there we go
As you can see my the comms. They're definitely mentioning that look guys. They're the shine so it's still there
It's still there picks up 11 minutes in
Four minutes after a very bloody fight was fought for it and actually decided that they didn't care
Don't take it it goes to show you know
Maybe sometimes in these games these important games as well that both teams are just so locked in that you kind of
But miss the little things yeah, aren't that little a little too locked in so they may to lock out
Looks like they're gonna be here one trade here
Maybe we'll try to defend
But I don't know if that's wise by them this ember is super strong in the skirmishes right now
DK is going for that armlet build is if you buy a blink this game Mars is buying blink
Tossed is buying blink. It's too many blinks. You're not gonna have enough damage enough follow-up or team fight against
some really good teamfight supports from Axe B Morita and Ringmaster these heroes
are very powerful in these early game fights yeah huge just sort of AOE
presence right in these teamfights yeah a lot of just very crackle to fight into
yeah there's gonna be a lot of stuff on the ground so DK going for the armlet
but it's armlet against Vessel it's an Ember that is super down to go go
go fight and Malrin has got to take a step back play more of the carry
role from the mid lane but that means Gitter's farming, Maureen's farming, Amar, no blink
yet on him so he's farming too so XG, the map is open for them if they want to make plays right now.
A bit of peace and quiet after the chaos of the first 10 minutes or so.
He's going to look to start things first, success feeling pretty safe up there, push the land
in pretty nicely.
NTS and Xenova playing in a little pair here, they do have a smoke, but they can't burst
the Urseys, so why is they in rage?
I can force TPs, but actually straight up killing him, probably not going to happen.
and Amar doing a cute little wrap around smoke.
Oh, that's the charge down.
Get him in the arena.
Now they should have the damage.
Put the freezing field.
Make sure they can kill him.
X-Actus won't be able to stop it.
But he won't be able to live.
Nice game.
It's on a little opening, right?
They know that Ursa and DKB heroes are not getting involved.
Period.
And so Amar says somebody's got to keep the ball rolling
and he does look they do a really smart move through the gate a
Mixure of comms of reading the game is a lot that goes into that play
Yeah, but it's a big one these kills add up slowing down the blink of xxs and a bar off that kill
He's gonna have it
The go to do something about this case the army is
Getting pretty out of control super fast battle fury time as we saw again
Fighting for the wisdom this time. I'd imagine XG will stick around and claim it. Yeah, they'll take that
They do remember they remembered it to grab it after winning the the play to try and secure it this time
They've completed their goldfish cosplay. So
Memory is back intact
Yeah, it just feels like
Like Falcons they definitely have a better draft this game in the last game
But they've just got up so I've played in the early game that it's showing
Some overlaps between the DK and the earth so we saw it yesterday from the spirit draft
They have a lot of similarities, the single target physical damage, slower heroes.
Smaking. Oh, brother bear.
Careful, that's a dangerous cast that you're trying to go for there, sir.
And now with the Remnant, they might just be able to look for more.
Dragonsail will come out to hold back our mate.
Now he's got a lot of backups, he's just gonna start trying to go to work on him with the Ember Spirit.
He's got to run now.
He's with the Enrage.
And they're still able to close in on to him after Steven's in trouble.
This is a dead hurser.
My goodness.
And you can't poke the bird.
Cos he'll try to poke you back much harder.
This is a dangerous kez.
Top farm by quite a mile here.
Well into the Mansa on towards this next item pickup.
They just can't go for those sort of plays.
It's hard to sort of see how that would work out.
And Kez, I mean not Kez, and Falcons, so many birds, but Falcons just look shaky.
I'm gonna try and make the plane, man.
Putting a lot in on to XXS, but XXS does have backcubs.
Not even close.
It just feels a little bit off from them.
They do.
That was...
Even the way Skitter dies top, he just sort of runs in and just tries to kill a hero.
We can't kill him.
All of these birds!
that that's a death this game I'm being sworn but like blocked but I don't think
that's a verb anyway it's the Falcons they're just not on their A game I don't
know if it's the patch I don't know if it's post PI win kind of shakiness what
it is it's causing this lack of motivation who knows but this is not the
Falcons we're used to seeing just mis-execution all over the place is
I don't think he is.
As they get rage, but they can keep chasing him.
Yeah, and they can keep killing him.
I mean, TP's coming in.
Maybe they can save him.
Ooh, the bot pops in.
Doesn't matter, nothing is they still dies.
But an execute they've got, I mean, ready to dive in
and sure that they get the two kills themselves.
I mean, honestly, he might be able to kill more here.
Is he critting Snake? He's trying to turn towards him.
Freezing first attempt, and they do burst in our mark.
Coming in clutch, with the spring in the contribute, to take the Keds down.
Bit of a bit more they can chew, and FYI is going to die here as well. Must be...
Oh, that's silence.
Holy crack!
Perfect silence! They're catching the three of them, let...
Man, they had no way to stop it. I think they had a few spells still on cooldown, but there might have been something.
Even if there was, they all get silence.
Man, FYI is really coming into his own.
That's...
That right there is Falcons, or is that XG?
I think there's birds on both sides, whether it's the heroes or the team.
Falcons, they needed that, because that was starting to get a little bit risky underneath the tower.
Sure, it's still not great for Skeeter, he dies again, and that gap between him and Arme continues to grow.
But at least this time for Falcons, they get some kills in return, and they might even be able to turn it into a little bit more.
I look for Xenova, but they don't have to damage between these two to threaten him.
They might have, you know, as quickly as they make that good sort of play top, it still results in not a great move afterwards.
Amar getting caught very far out of the lane, trying to go for a support that they don't get close to killing,
and F by elsewhere, he's able to start making kind of almost solo moves here where the pierce prevails.
My goodness, they're all over the place.
The aggression from XG, this is peak form XG.
They are absolutely in the zone today.
They came to play they want that revenge they want to say you may have gotten the aegis
But we can still take you down
Absolutely, this is
It's gonna be quite a mountain for the speed of the climb to catch up to army this game army just
So far ahead here on the case
He is absolutely in his element today with this hero
What better here to beat the birds within the bird to up
Most avian series of Dota I've ever seen almost the entire man to finish. He is gigantic
They're gonna try and fight again at falcons
Not easy to do around this mid area tier one is up
So XG they can bring back up in and fight back and they're already gonna start preparing themselves here XG
They know that falcons are gonna try for this sort of move XG at the high ground
They're fighting off by the side of his dodges there. They just turn and collapse immediately on towards Mal-Reed
He's dead at the start of the fight and now at the Yul's control they can set up for more they'll get snaking
These moves from Falcons just are not working out quid
That one was just forced if I'm being honest even if he doesn't get the slight dodge there
NTS is gonna die and they're gonna lose. Sorry. Malarine is gonna die and they're gonna lose more anyway
The team fight is just not there from Falcons. They their heroes need to be ahead
It's triple blink. Skitter gonna buy one as well. It's quadruple blink heroes.
It's all about the jumps, all about bursting heroes. If you run into the belly of the beast, XG's
ancients, where they're all standing there, you can see on the map they're all there. They can TP in,
even if they aren't. There's just no way that's gonna go well. It feels like a really forced move from Falken's.
And they just continue to look a little bit off.
off. They're definitely struggling in a few of these games here and now at this point
down one game in this best of three against XG in the lower bracket. They've got to be
able to pick themselves back up otherwise this is going to be the end of the road for
them here Dream League. The form that XG's been showing, they do not show many signs
of slipping up army coming in with top play here today both games on the cares
looking pretty untouchable and impossible it seems for Skeeter to kind of keep
up to now you eat both games is having to play from behind in this carry matchup
this time on a much better hero potentially but when you're sort of
like a nearly a full item behind the matchup don't feel so hot it does not
We're gonna get another kill on Amar most likely.
Somebody's gonna go up to TP out, they're gonna need to stop it, they do!
Slight change in place. Amar dead again.
One of the roughest call lines, I feel like we've seen him having an early game right, 273.
This is not kind of the Amar Mars that we used to.
It's really not. Almost cosplaying Tomato at this point.
If she continually controls the map, push these lanes in.
I'm just doing a good job farming in the meantime trying to get to more of those key items to get working on the VQB.
Malloryn has bought the Mask of Madness and now is going to work on that VQB so it's still going to be a long while.
There it is.
Now because, yeah, as you'd say, well just up until that point he can die very easily.
Snaking.
He's likely going down.
FY having a fantastic time this game on the...
on the Moerta. Fun to see as well from XG when they go for this support duo, very high
execution level right when you have a ringmaster and Moerta is your support combo. They need
to be landing the spells for it to work out and they absolutely have. Barely missing
a skill shot these games to X Nova and FY. Top support play.
I've been really impressed at how FY has acclimated to the lineup, came out of
sort of pseudo retirement to join this team did not look very good at the
beginning of their gameplay but he stepped up in a major way and in these
series in particular he's looked like a tier one four player yeah you can feel it
and these sort of lighting time it's fantastic for the two that these
supports very rich he's got these halfway button plus three-quarters of
the way towards having the goal to get this full agonies on Muerta it's
Tough one here for Falcons to turn around.
And as I say, this is the game, the loss that will knock them out.
They aren't able to pull it back here against XG.
Goodbye January, that's the case.
Yep, absolutely.
If you get a reminder, ladies and gentlemen of these teams,
winning this series will get you into, was it the top six?
So therefore, you will get those invites to the upcoming
E.P.T. tournaments, but a loss here means that you'll have to take the long road through both of those qualifiers.
A situation that Falcons have probably not been very used to, right? Not normally a team that has to do that, Quinn.
No, also not a team that expects to have to do that. It can take a real hit on your confidence, I think.
I think, very frustrating, cause a lot of tensions, whenever these things happen, a lot of rough discussions as they continue to just get run over by XG.
Well, the TP might work out this time, yeah, no further way to cancel that.
Still, they're down on the spot in lane, Falcons, they still have people down here.
I'm gonna try and make the play here, but the pistol fail comes out, and I don't know if they should have stuck around and make that play here, Quinn.
They're both dead.
Skeeler and Crit tried to go for an incredibly ambitious move onto the FYC's 4th match.
They're both dead.
If this keeps happening, which I think it is, you know, if the signs of what we've had so far are anything to go by,
I don't see Falcons coming anywhere close to being able to turn this one around, Quinn.
They're just not playing at the level that XG's bringing today.
They're not. If I'm being honest, Falcons looking like the weakest team in this tournament right now.
And there's eight teams left. I can't remember the last time that looked like the case
Such a consistent team one of the most consistent teams of all time really a roster that is
Since its creation been on top even if they're not winning tournaments bed and contention to winning them
and now
Going through a very clear rough patch. Yeah
They can absolutely destroy it today and
And yeah, he's in some of these members of XG just being back on top. Very impressive to see.
And so, Omar, get up at the blink. The army was there waiting for him.
The other contenders down top. Spear will be there to push them back.
Deadshot hits though from a distance.
That's why, past that little bit of interrupted setup, by stamping nothing to say to wrap around.
Kilomar off again.
XXS, ready to start throwing rocks here.
Hacks, snaking.
Snaking.
They'll try and run, but the chains are in.
Nothing to say.
Swings across.
XXS doing some sort of 360 takedown on him there.
Once swipe across his head to finish the kill,
12k gold lead, 29 to 9.
This is a route.
This is some impressive stuff from XG.
And I've only got to imagine, right,
if you're extreme in this situation,
You're going to be able to taste the suffering of Falcons, right?
You know how much this hurts for Falcons.
I mean, you also, you know what they did to you.
I mean, it was his third time watching the fireworks.
He's had more than enough of that.
Yeah, this is a pretty, pretty painful payback here from XG.
Definitely more emotions, I think, like go to players oftentimes look pretty
pretty calm, pretty chill after games.
But I think I can say from experience
until you lose TI finals to somebody,
beating them in the future feels way better.
That's why he's ready just to start the move.
This comes in, Armey's very very low, but he'll survive.
They have a little bit of control with the yulves,
but they can't finish Armey off.
Maybe, with his final spell, no, he jumps across,
dodges the attempts here from the Mars.
Armey will live, get a need to kill this Chas,
the controls there from FY, they're gonna deadshot.
FY finishes him off, Dragon telling a creep there,
Maureen, missing his spells.
Armey's back kills up with the raptor dance.
Double kill for Armey.
Amar, the only one left here on the side of Falcons,
another dead shot from FY, hits on towards him.
Arme is ready to chase him down and clean the Falcons.
Triple kill for Arme.
And then in a fight, where you would not
be forgiven for a moment, feeling
that this was Falcons' chance at the snuff.
They're getting these kills, but they couldn't quite
kill the Kez, and honestly, even more on top of that,
they couldn't kill FY.
And FY, I lost count of the amount of spells
he was able to hit, subsequently in that team fight, he is popping off on the Maleta,
Falcons, they don't stand a chance.
7-1 and 23, he's almost higher than the Mars, an entire glyc near finish.
This is the best Maleta performance I've seen in months.
I can't believe Falcons didn't win this fight, it looked so good for them.
You've got to imagine right on the Falcons, they're feeling pretty good.
They get the Serena, they get the spear, but they save, but X-Nova coming in with
But it's keeping Arme alive here and Arme
My goodness even here this he's a chance to run away, but he goes back in he slashes towards the Mars
I mean was that a bit we just see what am I used to use on Arme? Yeah, that necessary
I don't think killed Arme. They didn't use it
I think that yours wasn't mistake holding it for a little bit longer for a later moment would have been and then maybe
He just done the creep like he did he's done the creep doesn't get FY maybe if that dragon tail hits one to FY
So close.
They might have killed both of them.
So just, sort of the mistakes continue from Falcons, right?
Plays are being missed, spells are being missed.
Starting to creep, that's, I mean, it happens sometimes,
but this is not a game where it can happen
and you get away with it.
XG is ready to go straight back in.
Snake, he's dead.
Falcons, the struggles just continue to build up
And in a moment where that fight, you can't have but feel that they could have somehow taken that one.
They don't. And straight in again, he gets caught by the spin.
He's just dead.
As soon as he's tried to walk into the fight, F-Li's already hitting him with these dead shots.
F-Li sees everything.
He really does.
Within the matrix.
They're coming in with the buybacks here on Skeeter.
They want to try and put everything into this fight, Falcons.
But I don't know if at this point everything's gonna be enough.
Triple kill for X-X.
Cestina's BKB is about to wear off Armageddon with the Raptor dance ready to turn towards them. It is over!
It's called...
What a series. What a day for extreme gaming here.
They are gonna be feeling so good about this win.
And Falcons, to say the least, they're not gonna be feeling too great, Quinn.
No, that's a hot two off of ever seen one. It's actually...
They played amazing in this series, in this game.
Yeah, Falcons looking shell shocked and they should because they just got Molly waft by in this tournament up straight up better team
And there's no way around that
It just it just was it something today just wasn't working from Falcons approach game
To it felt like they absolutely gave themselves a better shot with the draft
But the play if anything it got weaker than the game one play there was just mistakes across the ball from Falcons
Nothing came together for them.
It was a better draft, a much better draft.
And a very classic Falcons draft at that.
Not a single hero below Master Tier, but it looked like they just woke up.
Yeah, that was quite something.
XG just absolutely broke down Falcons to levels that we rarely see teams able to do so.
Extreme, incredible stuff from them.
They'll be moving on.
and Falcons they're gonna be having to look at those qualifiers from January
with this loss extreme 2-0 today they don't falcon's out
oh the qualifier common painful they be too soon for falcons but that is
definitely what is in the cards for them extreme gaming they they crushed
them they demolished that was not close yeah revenge is a strong
Oh, it really is.
As last guitarist in Naruto.
Right, as we know.
As we all know.
Man, FYI, he cooked. He cooked pretty hard this game.
I think this team, we first saw him at Malakia.
They did not look too good. They looked disorganized.
They didn't look like a team, because they just came off, off the break.
Like, they didn't play any strings for her to Malakia.
And now, after, you know, a month or so, you can see this team in action.
And there's a good reason why Ana wanted to play with Fy again, because you can see this
synergy.
Like, some of these fights, especially the fight where he comes back into the fight with
literally no HP, gets the Raptor dance, goes back to full HP, this is the fight that I'm
talking about.
Like, really clutch stuff coming up from two of these.
Yeah, this was beautiful gameplay.
And I mean, I feel like we talk about it every time we see Extreme do well.
The way that they win games is by absolutely clutching team fights.
Playing things right to that Razor's Edge where almost 10% HP goes back in
Obviously playing off of like the Miss Dragon Tail and some issues coming up from Falcons
But extreme to me like they're the most opportunistic team like if you give them an opening in a fight
They will 100% be ready and information to capitalize on it
Like this looks like a scary team when they play like this
They look like a like an AI playing one single like they're all they're playing one AI playing the whole team at the same time
It's insane I think extreme played very well, but I also think Falcons
This is not playing well at all. Yeah, I mean if for me it reminds me a bit about
Obviously when liquid is not in form. Yeah, and it just
You look at the game and you can be like yeah, their opponents played really really well
But at the end of the day, there's also like it didn't look like Falcons
I feel like this team is usually so consistent drafted the draft. I really I really like the draft
I even
Really wanted to say like see him will never win a game at this event, but I did say kind of like the same looks decent
Yeah, draft was good. I just the gameplay it didn't they didn't follow through for them
I think maybe some sort of self-carrying over from their previous series or I don't really know but it just didn't feel like they
Yeah, they had it all mapped out the way it normally do.
You think this is an issue for a psychologist slash a coach, right?
Not yet.
Not yet.
It's one series.
They've been the most consistent teams since they've formed.
I feel like anyone can have a bad day.
Maybe it's an issue for, hey, let's actually take a proper break.
Okay, maybe that's a better way to form the question.
I'm not saying like, oh, these boys need to go to therapy.
I mean, like this is not all this.
That's how I get it.
It did. It did. I apologize for that.
This is more on the psychological side of things where it's like the human element
to things where like they need to talk it out.
Like they need to regain confidence.
Oh, they're going to have to play those qualifiers.
They're not going to be able to take a break.
Yeah, they can take the Christmas holidays.
And then a new year is like...
Well, one call started on like the 5th or something.
Yeah, probably normally it's around 5th time.
And I know like the day after New Year's, you wake up, you're hung over.
But they have to know you're flying to bootcamp. Yeah, and normally it's like it's
the fourth or something. Yeah, it's really fast. I mean, it's rough, but they play do they play in the
Europe calls really play menacles. How does it work for eventually sell the menacles?
Oh, that's like for Nick my thing. It's like they're very sad right now. Probably. Yeah.
And for all the Nygma Galaxy fans, extra sad. Me. That's me. And that's a lot of
You'll see going on for that. That's too bad
Yeah, that is that's an entire region of people that was really rooting for Falcons to do well and I think
Could lose the NG accent the qualifier. That's true
That's that's not a team that you want to be qualifying against to be honest like they have performed on and off
But when they're on they get top six of TI
I don't know how much you should talk about nigma on this panel, but I love talking about I feel like they have the
ability to beat any single team, like any of the top teams on a good day, the problem
for them is having that good day like multiple days in a row, which you need in order to win
tournaments.
Insistency.
Yeah.
Then in qualifiers, you know, if you have a good day at the right time.
Exactly, exactly.
You just need one win.
Easy.
Yeah, that is...
One day, huh?
The day for them.
But we're talking a lot about the team that is losing and the repercussions that
the series had for them because it's a big deal having to play qualifiers in January,
I also still want to highlight extreme. They did play very well. I was two games in a row
They did not drop their focus. They still depict kiss into Urza. Yeah, that's a confident right there
I'm seriously impressed because I was watching replays last night and I just didn't think this team was gonna be very hot today
But they really pulled up and like you yeah, I mean when you're picking your quote-unquote counterpicking yourself
Yeah, then you know like it's gotta be real good because I was ready
I had my thoughts all the planned out before the game even started. Yeah, I don't know about this one on me
I don't know about like play, you know, you know, ours is good against kids
You that's why you guys picked it the first game
But then you pull up you played like this and it doesn't really matter. It's not about matchups
You're playing better. Yeah, I mean, they're supposed to have three losing lanes, right? It's DK versus Ember. That's DK
Yeah, it's crystal maiden versus primal crystal made a lane and then it's a catch up against her
So right it's like this matchup to matchup is a hard game
You know unless they play as a unit unless they play on their timings together, which they did flawless
Did we talk about the seven-minute fight? We did not but we should it was insane like they
Yes, they brought the numbers that the funniest thing that nobody even picked up that xp shrine after the fight ended
Yeah, they just walk away and then more ten minutes in is like oh look some xp for me
But yeah, they brought the numbers they brought pretty much everybody except for primal beast
Yeah, and it was very impressed by NTS
I think you know he got a lot of criticism for the past couple of tournaments as well that he's like not solid
But he's really like grinding you can tell that he's doing playing really really well
Especially this game on ember spirit
He was all over the place pretty much playing as a squad and yeah every single move that they make
They're not bringing that like one extra hero unnecessarily every time you can feel that it's just the right amount of damage
They need to be able to do to be able to get those skills
Yeah, do we think that this type of fighting obviously with the wisdom shrine now being
low ground, is that the type of action we should be expecting, is like minute 7 guys, 4v4 in
the water on the shrine?
I think, especially now that it's new, it's going to promote a lot of fighting.
People don't really know when you can go, when you can't go.
You don't have a full understanding of how that area plays out and which angles are
beneficial for which side.
I think compared to before, I mean, Duncan's already touched on it, but it will be
probably more likely you get more fights. Because you're on now on the low ground instead of the high ground, so
attackers can see you before you see them as a defender, so naturally that's gonna make it
easier to attack.
And we've seen teams with their whole team on the, so like your wisdom shrine,
we've seen teams waiting on the high ground, baiting one guy in the low ground shrine, and it doesn't work out.
Like it seems to be something that is attacker-favorite right now,
which is what we saw in that game. And I think honestly like
You don't pick up the wisdom shrine if you're already denying it for three to four minutes from the enemy supports
You've done your job. You know, I'm not making excuses. They should definitely take the shrine
But if you're really thinking about it, the biggest thing is that their supports are not getting level six
Like that's the big deal right there
There's no sound big deal. We got a big deal. We got a we got the interview
We got on me the god and gin. Hello. Good to see you both
Hey Jenkins
Hello. Okay, I'll start with the questions.
Ame, you officially do not need to qualify for ESL events for the rest of the year.
Except for the one Dream League later on, you can avoid many, many qualifiers.
How does that feel and was that a motivation going into this game for you?
After your victory, you didn't have to play in the pre-season, except for the next dream league match.
You didn't have to play in the pre-season. You had a lot of time to control.
Is this one of the benefits of the victory?
We were originally planning to play a pre-season match.
I heard that we could still play a pre-season match,
because we had a lot of money left.
Some said we had to play the old cow, so we were going to play a pre-season match.
Actually, we were mentally prepared to play all those qualifiers games in the future,
because some of our teammates said they were saying that there's a prize pool involved in the qualifiers as well,
And some of our other teammates saying that they just want to...
They just want to wreck Mew who is on tightbound.
Okay, Reven, that's good. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaking of, you know, that sort of thing, Revenge,
this was of course a rematch of the TI Grand Finals.
Was that a motivating factor going into this game?
How much of a motivator is Reven?
Because this match is a match of TI finals.
Because you are against the French team.
When you entered this match,
are you one of the motivation for this match?
I'm not.
Now, in this time period,
maybe everyone is in a critical condition.
I'm sure there's no TI match.
Both teams may not have TI match.
I wouldn't say there's really much of a motivation.
Because right now, in this current,
I mean, it's a new patch and the fact that, you know, it's quite a few of us are just coming off a break.
So we're not in our best form. We're not exactly in, you know, our TI form.
So we're clearly playing at a much different, much lower level compared to the TI days.
Okay, I'm curious then. Out of 10, how would you rate yourself right now in terms of your performance?
TI is 10. What is extreme gaming right now?
If TI is not so good, if TI is 10 points, how many points do you think you can give yourself a score?
I don't know. I can give myself a score. If TI is 10 points, I think it's 6 points.
I can't really say much about the team as a whole, but if I were to rate myself if TI form was like a 10, then I'll be at a 6 right now.
Okay, a lot of room to grow then. So you played, of course, Kez twice in this series. We've seen a lot of desolator Kez. You went Battle Fury. Can you tell me why you think Battle Fury on Kez was better in this game?
So it's a little bit more difficult to do.
Well, I was watching a few Caz replays out there,
and I felt that the battlefield
where you were simply the most sensible decision
is a playstyle that I like the most.
If I went other builds, such as the Desolator,
then I find myself out of mana constantly,
and just not being able to spend my second ability
as much as I wanted to.
Oh, interesting.
OK.
This one is for me personally.
I've always viewed you guys as a...
Your identity is that you take team fights very flawlessly.
And when you guys are winning,
you're playing a lot as a unit.
No one person steps out of position.
You're always playing in an area together as a team.
Do you view that as your identity,
or is this just, me as an analyst,
like projecting my opinion on you?
This analyst said that when they saw the match, they always felt that the whole team, your characteristics, are very good in a team fight.
For example, when you have a advantage, you have a very strong team ability.
There are very few people who are caught or caught,
and every time the team battle, everyone is very beautiful.
So he may judge you as a team battle style.
Do you agree with this view or is it just his own way of thinking?
and you don't feel like you belong to a team-wide team.
Basically, every team has their own advantages,
and the team will be able to do something else.
It's very easy to achieve that.
I wouldn't say that this was really our team signature.
I would say that the manner right now is just that any team that has the advantage
is the one grouping together and just flipping the map,
going for kills.
Whereas the team that has this advantage is the one just getting railed on.
Okay, so it's just a current meta thing. Makes sense.
I have Insania here with me, who has a question for you.
Hello, Alman. I consider you, Yatoro, and Satanic to be three legendary hard carry players,
and I was curious to hear your thoughts on why would you guys do differently to be able to like
stand out when you play hard carries compared to other carry players?
Insane is that you think that you, including Yatoro, and the third one, I didn't hear about it.
You think that you are the strongest player in this generation.
And you have your own unique characteristics, and you can define the role of this generation.
Do you see yourself in the same way, or do you think that you and Yataro, and Anna, and some other professional players are still at different points?
I think they are more powerful. I think I'm the best.
Well, I think that, you know, Yatoro and those legendary carries, they are much, much better
than me.
I'm just a shitty rookie.
Oh, my God.
Okay, thank you very much, all-manic.
Good luck versus Tundra later tonight, and hopefully we'll be seeing you again soon.
Okay.
See you, Jin, by the way, as well.
He's...
Ugh.
Hey, Quinn.
Hello.
Welcome.
I materialized.
Yeah, you have materialized.
I think the fact that you are here...
Oh.
Sorry, I didn't realize what's happening here.
...means that you should not.
They can never be on the same...
We can only have one.
...this is in their contract.
They can never be on the same couch more than...
Oh, are we the same person?
We're apparently.
We're still the same quota in the league.
They secretly hate each other.
other spots. Exactly. But, uh, LaCosta was a pro player. Yeah, that's true. But a long
time ago. Played it at TI. How many TI's have you played at Quinn?
I have seven, I think. It's a lot of TI's, dude. You're good. Did anybody tell you that? You're
pretty good at this game. Oh, I'm gonna be washed now. No. No, it doesn't. No, it's not that
You can live on this glory for a long time, you're good.
I saw your landing video, Quinn.com slash YouTube.
That's honestly an excellent video, really excellent.
Anybody who wants to get better at Dota, you should check out his channel.
You know what we should also check out?
Would you check out what Insania has to say to us?
What are you doing up there, Insania?
I figured you guys need to play some games,
and I wanted to make a little mini-game for you guys,
I'm going to ask you guys questions about Team Liquid members or make statements, and you're
going to tell me who you think is the most likely or who fits the description the most.
Who you talk about.
Exactly.
You're going to make a statement, and we're going to get who you're making it about.
Exactly.
It'll be a question or a statement, and then you just tell me.
Current Liquid or Insanity Liquid?
So it's going to be like the rosters that I played on.
all the rock.
I'm not including Tofu, I'm going to make it easier for you guys, there's some Smell
Caramel under the Christmas tree.
What the heck are you talking about?
What?
Smell Caramel?
If you guys go over to the Christmas tree, there will be some Smell Caramel.
I don't know what that is.
Yeah, go get the Smell Caramel.
Yeah, go get it Jenkins.
They're called Christmas Crackers.
Oh, I like those.
What did you call them?
What did you call me?
Smell Caramel.
But how many should I grab all four?
It sounds like smell caramel.
Yeah, but it means like Christmas cracker.
I thought we were getting a snack.
That's what I thought we were getting.
We are making snacks the whole time.
I'm tasting the tree.
And inside of these, my friends,
are going to be pictures of the people that you can...
Wait, I have my gloves on.
So we unwrap the box?
I think so, yeah.
Wait, no, don't you crack them here?
Yeah.
We crack it again.
Yeah, you have to pull on one side and then...
The air is already broken.
Yeah.
We're going back.
Wait, we can do it.
I was pulling on one side.
This is how you're supposed to do the Christmas cracker.
Yeah.
Three, two, one.
Oh, you win.
Nothing.
You win.
Oh, here goes all the food that we're making everywhere now.
Are these all pictures?
One, two, three.
I mean, these are pictures of the old team.
Oh, there's the one latter all mixed up.
Look what I got.
Oh, look.
You got the nicest one.
I got the best one.
Aw.
Mickey.
There he is.
I got Mickey.
I got Insania.
This is what you have to.
These are for the other side.
Okay, do you have a box here?
Why does he have a box here?
Each person.
I'm going to trade.
I don't know where the other one went.
I'm going to trade Insania for Boxing.
But there's another box here.
I have two Chloe's.
So a million back behind.
Yeah, there's some.
I'm just going to open it.
I have two Insanias.
I don't need two Insanias.
You also have two Mickeys because there's a Mickey there too.
I have a Mickey card.
We should make a trading card game.
Oh, I actually need a Mickey.
Oh, no, I have a Mickey.
I don't need this.
Who is missing a Mickey?
I need a Mickey.
I have three Insanias, dude.
Give me one. I'll give you a hand.
Let me just tell the viewers at home.
Options are Blitz, Dota, there is Boxy, Nisha, Mickey, Chloe, our manager, also known as
Elia, Jabs, our second coach, and me, myself, Insania.
I got seven.
Oh wait.
So you guys should have...
Yeah, I have a Mickey here.
Yeah, you guys should have seven cards.
We're not including the offlaners in this.
How multitasking is it?
Can I make cookies at the same time?
probably great I believe it's I've got seven all right I'm ready are you guys
ready I'm ready I'm ready all right so the first question is this is Nisha who
on Team Liquid loses their hotel key most often loses their hotel key yep
country Chloe I think it's not a good job it's in his name Mickey how is that
in his name. It's Mickey. I think it's either Nisha or Aiden. I'm going for Nisha. It's
Nisha or it's Aiden. I was leaning Nisha. I'm leaning Nisha on that one. If I'm not
Mickey, I'm going to say between these two. I'm picking Nisha. I didn't think of Aiden.
I'll say Nisha. He's not going to start with Aiden. If it's him, he should rename
himself to Mikey. Where's Mikey? Alright, so Shiver, what did you put up? I put
Nisha out but Nisha. So you guys are all wrong. Oh, it's actually boxy boxy is
Losers is okay the most
Second I would probably say Nisha second and I'm probably third
So you guys are not that far off
But it's like the gap between how often boxy loses his stuff and the rest of us is massive
Look, he's just a stuff loser not a hotel
Yeah, but it's like you will give him his hotel key in the lobby when you arrive and on this way up the elevator
It'll be gone. Wow. Okay. I thought you're talking about the level with facility specifically
Oh, we don't have hotel keys for the liquid city. Sorry. That's a speedrun to hotel key wreck world record
Yeah, he's he's really good at that. Yes, uh follow-up question or next question
Quinn you have a bit of an advantage in this as you have experience
Uh-huh, but who shows up the latest to the team liquid scrims?
Yeah, I'm gonna go for eventually I'll be I
Mean jabs and I obviously not Chloe not job
Yeah, I mean it's one of the core players. It's Nisha or Mickey. I think it's Nisha
He's famously a late sleeper like cutting him real close to the screen. So I'm gonna say Nisha. Okay. I'm gonna say blitz
Yeah, I'm gonna go with blitz. I'm gonna say he was RTZ was thinking about that. RTZ was streaming last night
And blitz was up late with him on an NA schedule doing degenerate things and he's late for the script
Yeah, okay, solid answers, solid answers.
The correct answer, however, is Nisha.
Yeah!
But I will say it is also because if William is late, then nobody's late.
So whatever time Glitz shows up at is like the...
Not again, huh?
Yeah.
The wizard is never late.
So per, per, like, he cannot be late.
It's impossible.
Can I get a 0.5 for that then?
I feel like you guys, yeah, you do get a 0.5.
We get a 0.5.
Actually, that was, that was well deserved 0.5.
Yeah.
That's the model. Yeah, they know how they know what it's like here a point five wait, but you said who did you say I said I feel like
No, no, the explanation just an oxymoron. You said blitz can never be late. Yeah, but I feel like
I'm the host of this game
I wish I take away LaCos. Yeah, okay next question. This one's quite hard. All right
So I want you to think properly about this one. Okay who on team liquid plays the most pubs
Oh
It's it's not you well, it's nobody on the team. Yeah, it's nobody playing that is that is given it has to be
It's jabs or it's Chloe. It is so Chloe. I'm I'm I don't I actually think you can't overthrow as Dota
No, absolutely not. She plays a lot of ranked games. She has a stack. She plays. I
She's on the ground. It's Chloe or jabs. I think it's Chloe
I think it's Chloe because I have run into her in unranked many many times. She's always playing run fly. She's playing she's a fiend
I think it has to be Jeff's because you're when you have like four other coaches that you're competing with like you want to have something else
That's not true. You have to have that big number
But he's also the analyst who has to sift through things he has less time maybe I don't know. All right, so the answer is
This is supposed to be a trick question and the answer was nobody because originally
I didn't have coaches or managers involved
But I feel like you guys are correct and nobody said any players. They all get one point
That's nice, they just feel like a bit of a participant participation trophy type mean no like we're millennials
Well, how old that one was when were you born 98 your zoomer? Okay? Well, I'm I know I'm on the cusp
He's definitely a zoomer. I think you're zoomer cusp. No
Two years too old to be a zoomer
your zoomer started said zero I also thought zoomers are zero I don't think
so but I feel like post 95 guys yeah after 95 it depends on where you're what
data source you're looking at it's pretty it's actually not very well-defined
you know anyways that's true who is the most likely to drop food on
themselves while eating what the heck is the specificity around English how
How frequently does this happen a lot obviously it's okay?
I don't it could be Nietzsche it could be William. It's just American like I feel like boxy and Mickey
I don't think it's them. I think they're tidy in their eating like jabs also tidy I
Don't think it's Chloe. So it's one of these a heck of player for will would Aiden rat himself like this
I don't think he would rat on himself. I think he's gonna rag on someone else
I've never seen him drop food on himself the whole time that he's been here. He's quite tidy
The thing is, I go out for dinner with Will and he doesn't eat food on himself there,
but I would imagine it's different when it's...
When he's in a team room, picking out...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
And he never orders me an extra chicken box, he's greedy.
That's messed up.
He's really greedy, and it's on liquid, it's not like they come on, they got money.
I feel like it's different, like restaurants, you don't get food on yourself,
but if you are indeed sitting in the team room, you're trying to play a game, any game while eating.
We all know how he sits on the chair.
That's about to go wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he is about to go wrong.
It's all right.
There he is. I'm going to I'm going to say I'm going to say Nisha.
We have one Nisha Lacoste.
I'm going to go with Jabs.
I feel like I could see this guy just coming into a room
and grabbing a sausage with his hands and just like eating it.
Thanks, gentlemen. Yeah.
I'm making the sauce. I'm going to go.
Mickey, I feel like Mickey is like distracted watching some TV show
or something like this.
I'm not sure if he's breaking bad or something.
He's eating, he's not paying attention.
None of you guys put the same answer up.
Yeah.
One of you is correct.
Oh.
Oh.
It's La Cuff.
Hey!
Hey!
Jobs is well known within our team for like putting on a white hoodie and then immediately
spilling food on it.
Like within like five minutes of that.
Oh that feels bad because like what they got the good merch.
They do have the good merch.
Yeah.
It's a given. If Japs is wearing any sort of bright colored piece of clothing, he will
drop food on it, guaranteed.
Alright.
Alright, so the next question.
He always wears white too. He's always wearing bright clothing.
Easy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Easy.
Well, he's always dropping food on it. That much is for sure. Next question. Who has
the strongest bench press on Team Liquid?
Oh, I know that answer.
That's it.
I mean, didn't Nisha recently surpass Will?
We already had one, Nisha. Can we have Nisha as the multiple answer?
Yes, there can be the same answer multiple times.
I feel like...
I mean, it's obvious who it's between.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Question is two.
Okay, I think it could be Jabs too.
I mean, the thing is, no, there's no way.
No, there's no way.
William is always bragging about how strong he is.
Yeah.
But is he stronger?
I mean, he is strong. I've seen him.
The thing is, he fluctuates in discipline, and I wonder if Nisha fluctuates the
same way.
He's a go-to player.
Okay, are you talking about current or peak?
Current.
Okay.
Which, I would say like today if they both went to the gym and they did a bench, I mean
obviously I haven't seen them for a few months, but like, so let's say TI, they both went
to the gym, they did a bench press.
TI?
Will's always in peak.
Yeah, they're both currently fit.
They're both currently like peak.
That's also fit, that man is a large man.
Yeah, but I don't think he's, I'll save my reasoning for after they enter.
I don't convince anybody here.
All right, so what do we got? What do we got? We got one Nisha. We got two niches and two wills
No, we've got three wills and one Nisha. Three Williams, one Nisha. All right. My argument. Okay, you guys. Sounds like an indie band
So undoubtedly there will be discussion at the team liquid facility
Or actually I guess they flew home
But if there's not a facility there will be discussion at the team liquid facility about this one
But I believe the correct answer is
Unfortunately, BlitzDota. All right. No way.
I
Believe that he always complains about his arm jeans and how his arm jeans are so bad and niches are so goaded
Those will call against
All right, do you want to go to the next question? Yeah, I go nice she can all right next question who shows up to events
without having done their laundry
Oh my god. That's crazy. That's not crazy. That is half the talent list.
What? A lot of people show up. It's like, oh, we've not re-incurred this event that we haven't even been there for a day.
Okay, both names, fever. Both names, then. Yeah. We were calling from back-to-back events.
Oh yeah, not that all you guys are saying.
No, no, no, no, no.
And if you're not included, you just, um, you know, flip it inside out, turn it around by 180.
I'm going for a gamble. Yeah, I'm going for a gamble. I'm going for Mickey
You're like it's time to choose him for something, you know, that's my bro. Because I have no idea
Oh, they I based this on nothing. I do know was it will that lost the shirt at
One of the events some points up
That is a really really long story. Yes
Yes, but that does mean he puts a shirt in, but I do think now that he would be more hesitant to put shirts in because it does lose shirts sometimes.
He's doing laundry at home these days.
I don't know how to be the hecticness.
I'm leaning towards Mikkei. He's like a neat guy, clean guy, you know, he shows up after, like, immediately, he's like, yeah, I gotta clean this.
Mikkei, sounds like that type of a guy.
Were you laughing? Was that a laugh?
It was a laugh of endurance.
I think it's Aiden.
We haven't had an Aiden yet.
And I think Agnes does a lot for him.
And if he's going from event to event,
then it feels like he's like, are you wearing clothes?
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
I was thinking the opposite.
I was like, she's going to whip him into shape.
You are not going to this event without doing your laundry.
But if it's between events, you can get away with it.
I feel like he's a dirty bird.
I'm not going to change, but I agree with your argument.
All the beans.
I'm going to go Nisha.
Give me the beans.
All right interesting a lot of different answers. Yeah, however, none of you guys are correct. The correct answer is boxy
This is keys. Yeah, you know what?
It's in the same wine of thinking yeah, yeah
Unironically like this happens together like you will lose this hotel key on the way up and then like in the same text as I lost
My hotel key. There's also do we also have laundry at this event wonderful. They come together this man
back to back yeah that's all he cares about I respect that was a beast yeah
My he only thinks about the wood up nothing else. Yes, so when are we getting it?
When are you gonna put yourself on blast? I don't worry. I'm coming right now. I'm coming. I'm coming. Don't worry about it
All right, I'm included in this super positive now
This one this one's really important, and I hope you guys all get it right who is the most
valuable member of the team liquid squad
Who I in a quiz made by insane yeah
Okay, wait, is it current squad? It's the okay the people you can pick from are me niche
I mean the ones you have on the pictures
Well, let's say when I was on the squad
My okay, I have my answer. I have my answer to I'm not gonna say what it is though
Yeah, you said you said he's the guy that reads patches
Mm-hmm. You said he he does all the research. Mm-hmm. He's got dirty hoodies
He's I know he's playing all the time as well guys working on our dirty hoodies for playing a ton of Dota reading patches. I
Don't know. I feel like at PGL. It was also jabs drafting. That went pretty well like he clearly can do his own coaching
I feel like if it says anything but Chloe then I feel like he's gonna get some backlash
Chloe would never give me back. Well, that's what Chloe and say for the rest of your team
They would give you back us that you didn't say Chloe. Mm-hmm. I heard a lot of you being very
Irresponsible for
Somebody needs to be take care of the kids. We need an adult in the mix. Yeah
That's alright every achiever Chloe as well. Okay. Well, that is the correct answer. Good job everybody. It's clearly Chloe
Yeah, I'm not good at reading people. I guess Chloe is our undisputed MVP. I think everybody on our team would agree with that
Yeah
Alright next question is who would struggle the most if they didn't have Dota in their lives
Like if they have to do a real job, but I think it would be the worst of that
Hmm, I think everyone. No, you have to pick one. This was hard for me, too
Okay, I had to like decide if I think would be the yeah, this is like objective is it get it's very subjective. Yes
This is higher game is the day
Or not like who's wait, who doesn't have me? Oh, yeah, true. That's fair. That's that's fair
Yeah, it's one of you guys I have an issue. I don't have an issue. I've got an issue
Just figured it out
You're more
Nisha's been he's been a gimping me like
It's like he's picking Nisha. What was the question? What was the question? Yeah, the question was okay
Imagine somebody had to do a real job. They couldn't play Dota. They couldn't be like any sport
I think I have to use me who would struggle the most I
I have to use this card. I wanted to use him before but I didn't have him
Okay, it's between Nisha and Aiden I think
He has a job right now. Okay, see I give responses what I wanted to put in Nisha
That was good bit that was good bit all right. I kind of want to hear some justifications though
I it's you're getting off too easy. Otherwise. We'll start with sheaves. He plays though
I know he watches series on double the speed or something silly and
And uh go to the gym. That's about it. He started playing at a very young age doesn't have many back up
I was about because of that he like it very young age. So yeah, we're gonna make a picture of like
Yes alternate attacks the Polish squad King when that's why I chose Nisha. Yeah, all right
I'm way too early my justification is even though you meme
You're a very humble guy, and I think you have a lot of gratitude towards towards Dota
And so I feel like you picked yourself just to just to show the gratitude towards towards the game
But I think you'd be fine in another job. Thank you, but I think you don't think that I see you see
Clean on the cost any thoughts?
Nisha, I think I agree with all she was reasoning don't point with your Nisha. That's dangerous
Why is it dangerous? He's powerful. All right. That's a powerful card. It's like pouring a Charmander at me
I don't play both of them.
So this is actually something we've discussed multiple times at the liquid facility,
especially I think William has initiated this conversation many times.
And I was trying very hard to remember who he would put first.
But I do recall him many times saying that he's really thankful to Valve and Dota,
because he doesn't know what Boxy would do without it.
And how he would survive and manage in a real game.
So, Boxy is the correct answer.
I guess it tracks with the other two.
Yeah, he doesn't get the Boxy.
He loses everything. So how can he he's just like he doesn't watch his clothes. This is a very 50 cent type segment
You just don't like boxy
Don't paint that picture
All right, don't do the painting here who always orders a strawberry milkshake at five guys
Okay, I think these are the questions that the viewers at home want answers to
Yeah, but for sure that's definitely what they do in the floor
Is there five guys in Europe?
Yes, that's right, there's actually one almost right next to the liquid facility.
So I'm ruling out who likes five guys the most because I always order, yeah, it's gonna
be like, I'm thinking like Will, I'm thinking maybe Anisha, it's not Boxy.
I feel like Anisha is a cute little guy, he likes his milkshakes.
They ask him like, what do you want?
He goes, I'll give you my strawberry milkshake again, you know?
We haven't done Mickey for anything yet, right?
I'm gonna go for Mickey.
I don't he doesn't strike me as a burger bear. No, but the milkshake, but like if you're going to five guys
You're like you want to have a burger as a milkshake. Yeah, but that's what Mickey would do. Yeah
Are you like well if you're gonna get my best you bring me back a milkshake? I'm gonna go Nisha
I thought you're on five guys. I'm thinking me. I'm sure five guys with William. He ordered some
I'm gonna go with Mickey shake I think
I
Think he's the one I'm gonna go with knee shake
I'm going I'm going will shake
All right, the correct answer is Mickey. He loves anything strawberry
Lucky
So to all the girls at home that want to take him out on a date now, you know, give him a strawberry. Yeah
This next one is really important to me and I really want you guys to get it right
They didn't all begin but it was previously rocked a monk haircut on team liquid
What do you thought? What do you consider a monk? Like imagine like a monk from like old movies
Or they have like the you know like a bowl cut, but it's like shorter
what
Like a monk, you know like I think you found a little like ball on the top of the gut like the rim
No, not the without the bald, but yeah, kind of like that
They're just a bull like mo from the three stooges. Just like I don't know
That's a good reference.
I will have a picture at the end of this and you guys can tell me if it's a monk hair cut or not.
I know Will. He has had weird hair cut.
Yeah, I got my answer and I'm not explaining it. It's just a feel.
God, I will for Will.
Alright, we got a William.
Chloe!
Yeah.
What's that funny?
Chloe's an unexpected one.
Alright, and what else do we got?
I got Jabs.
Got a Jabs and we got a Lakal.
William.
William as well.
Alright, so it is actually...Jabs!
Yes, I knew it.
And look, this is what I meant with the monk haircut.
What?
What?
Are you talking about that?
What do you call that then?
It's just like a bowl cut.
Yeah, but it's like, if you look at the monk,
it's just not.
I feel like, okay, imagine him in a brown robe
and like a cross around his neck.
And his name is Tuck?
I don't know.
I feel like a fryer.
This is like an inside joke that is
it just doesn't work.
It was very strong within the squad.
It was very fun.
Outside, it's like, eh.
Okay, I'm sorry, then.
That, it was really funny to us, all right?
So let me tell you, we had, so we had a, this was during COVID and our, I think our like
head of HR or something brought in, according to him, the best barber in the Netherlands.
She had like the best reviews, whatever, whatever.
He brought her into our office and she gave all of us haircuts.
And we all ended up looking the exact same and we all looked horrendous.
And I think Jobs was like the worst victim of us all.
Where was your picture with the bowl caught then?
I don't know.
Might have like escaped it by the time. I saw like a third person come out with like a bowl. Yeah
All right, so last question out. You guys have enjoyed this. I have
Who is the most humble person on team liquid? Oh
This is oh will you guys have these discussions all the time. Yeah, we do
It's it's not will
Well, he's probably either I've been lied to or you send this final question.
This is the final question.
Either I've been lied to.
Well, we have the same amount of points.
This is my initial guess.
I have to go with something different.
Otherwise, I can't win.
That's true.
We could win together.
Yeah, we could.
We could be friends.
What if we were friends?
So we have two people saying in a quiz that I made I put myself as the most humble person
Hey, but I only say this because you said that you included yourself
It's the last one might have been a trick if I might have been a trick. Don't say trick
It would have lie. You might have been a lie. Who knows. Thank you
Be ready
We got a clue. Oh, that's a good Chloe we got a niche and we got two people thinking I put myself
very humble of you. Very humble of me. The correct answer is obviously me! I put myself
first up with myself. You win! Big dog! You're a good bit. Thank you guys. Thank you. That's
good. Well, great quizzing. I was a great quizzing. Well done. Thank you, thank you.
I love Team Liquid. You know I'm not here. For the next bit, we're going to take a
quick break and then we're back with Jenkins, Quinn and Odie Pixel. What could
they possibly be doing?
Yeah, holiday's a-gun
Feel full of Christmas song
Stood on the railroad track
Get up and make some noise
Cause there's no chair in bed
It's the beginning of a whole new year
Next stop is Christmas, oh yes
The holidays are here, hey, on a Christmas tree spring.
This room is like for everybody, everybody.
Underneath the mistletoe, Santa is put in my ear.
Get on the party train, you've been so good this year.
And when the whistle blows, I know you're near
Next stop is Christmas, oh yeah
Holidays are here, next stop is Christmas, oh yeah
Holidays are here, next stop is Christmas, oh yeah
Holidays are here
Give me a warm home
Rome, with a Colosseum, Rome, and a Grammousie, John, Rome.
Love is everywhere, so meet me up there at St. Peter's Square in Rome.
On the seven hills, that's Rome. The Italian thrills, cause love is alive when you're roaming in Rome.
Rome, where the tiber flows, yeah, Rome, Michelangelo's in Rome, the eternal town of the main satin and all things Latin, Rome, like a symphony, yeah, it's home.
See where the bourgeoisie
Who put the gold and no mandate had won
It all burned down
As Nero just fiddled around
But right here, right now
2000 years on, the silkworms were strong enough
Where the fashion king's all grown, Where the pastor's all home grown,
And the guys all stare, While they compare what the young girls were in Rome,
With its dim lit bars and nights, Of a million stars.
So get me across the Atlantic
Left for the lands of Manic
Group of the Roman Romantic
That's Rome
I'm masking
Group of the Roman Romantic
That's Rome
Jingle bells are jangling, carols fill the air,
best of all in hollering everywhere.
Children taking sleigh ride, laughing all the way,
oh what fun we'll have this holiday.
Homemade decorations, lights at every tree, Snowball fights with friends and family.
For what fun to celebrate this merry time of year?
Bells on pop-tails ringing Making spirits briar
Come along we'll sing a song tonight
Turkey with the trimmings, realm of pumpkin pies, Stars above that shine for you and I.
Oh, what fun to celebrate this merry time of year.
Oh, what fun to celebrate this year.
Welcome to the fun room here podcast room. You're doing the intro, huh? Yeah, and today just decided that that's right
And today we're gonna play a little game on steam called tips and salvage is a multiplayer game for making friendships
Or each one of us is a little cool and get out
It's not organized calm down. I'm trying to organize it. You just keep filling it up
I'm still doing the intro. I'm here with the cost and Jenkins. How you guys doing this out?
I am the orange car. No, no
Could you guys do the intro please? I'm the orange car. What are you guys? I'm the green car. Okay? I'm yellow
All right, see it's because it's the one in the back. That's the problem. You keep putting more in dude
Why do I think we have too many in there? I think that maybe there are some ones on the side that don't actually go in there
Okay, take it easy. You're yellow. Look us. Yeah, I'm waiting. Okay. I'm waiting everyone go in now
How do we there's too much? What are there there there? Oh good all good. There's too much wood now. It's not gonna fit in there
There's it will have what?
Okay, out of the way sir. Look see all good. Have you ever worked as a garbage man before?
kind of question is that?
That's like a profession. Yeah, have you know what are you guys doing? I'm waiting for you guys. I'm a nice
Orange car didn't get out of the way push it in get out of the way. Thank you
Hey, no, don't what is this button do?
Boost
Jacket no Jenkins. Let me go jacket. No
I think we need to reorganize
I don't think the car racks are good. There's we're missing one in the corner
Look oh, no, I got it. What is good boys?
I got it. All right. Hey, no, no boost
Why do we have to fuck it up all the way in the back? What are you guys doing? Who is no?
I'm just in the corner stay away from that's the cost who here is
Going to fix this we are all fixing it. Okay. Well, I will hold on to this one so we don't get confused
It's really lazy. All right, go ahead.
You got to take this one.
I got I got I got let me put this one.
I need to get in there.
I'm going to take this one out.
You can dress. No, no, no, no.
Put it back. Put it back.
I'm not going to put it back until we know we're the long ones.
I know. Yeah, yeah.
Look, just trust me here.
I'm the team captain.
All right, team captain, go.
The cost. You're doing good stuff there.
I'll put this.
Oh, my God. I'm.
So many flipped my controls.
No, one flip controls. You're good.
All right, see now we can yeah put up any patient. No, don't get impatient. There we go
There I'll get in put your one in and we're done with that the time. No
That's too much for one man to do
Give me this this one's for day. So were you guys ever a garbage van?
Everyday that's a good trash out
I mean I have worked in retail before which is very close to to garbage
I took garbage out too. I also worked on retail.
Move, flax move.
I'm it. All right, go gentlemen.
Boost, boost your way and make it cool.
Boost, boost, boost.
Do it with a boost.
Parallel parking. We're good. I think we're good.
I'll handle this. Go ahead and take it.
You took the trash out, huh?
I did. Put it in, Janky.
Good boosting. Yeah, don't, yeah.
Ah!
Great job, guys.
The tutorial, by the way.
The beat the tutorial.
That's the tutorial. Job well done.
Let's go home to the next one
Okay intro storage next where do we go from the boost into it intro dumping boost boost boost boost
Back in I'm gonna back
Okay, let's see what we got to do here press the button to receive new junk clear dumping area clear the dumping area
Okay. Here we go.
So there's, oh, there's four junk.
What's the worst job you guys ever had?
Uh, this one, I had to be on panel with Jenkins.
Oh, it's been rough, it's been rough paneling with him.
Probably working at a grocery store is really hard work.
Like I worked at frozen.
So my fingers would freeze and it was like really, really, uh, hard work.
So you'd sweat and then sweat would freeze in the freezer.
Where do we put the job?
I think we just get rid of it.
Just get rid of it.
Just get it out of there.
Get it out of there.
Hit the bull.
Hey, no, don't boost.
What about you?
Was it Texas Outback?
Outback's Daycast?
No, I've had a lot of bad jobs.
I was a construction worker for a bit.
Construction worker.
That's hard.
That's a really hard work.
Like three days, I feel like.
No, no.
It was illegal, actually.
My dad had his own business and he had maybe construction at the tender age of 13
old building playgrounds for other children so the kids would play and I'd be out there with a cement
you know that's quite illegal but uh you know it was uh years ago they can't arrest you for that
now i'll put this one away i'll say i worked at a retirement home oh yeah my brother worked at a
retirement home and it's uh equally fulfilling as it is depressing i think i would recommend it
for people. I think you should if you experience it. Yeah, I know to appreciate the other jobs.
100%. 100%. There was a old man there. And I'm pressing the button. I went from boost, boost.
I was at a retirement home and it was a hospice place where they when you're really messed up.
That's hard. That's where they put you. This guy, I'm getting this guy dressed up.
Looks at me. Old, old man, like more than 90 years old. And he goes, why won't you people
just let me die. And I didn't know what to say. So I just said, I think it's waffles for breakfast.
And he goes, Oh, we went and ate waffles. That's honestly made his day. That's honestly a very
emotionally intelligent thing to say. Even if you did it by accident.
Oh, what's the worst job you had? Because I didn't have many jobs. I did the work in
pharmacy for a long time. Pharmacy. Yeah. It is a bit boring seeing the same faces every
single day you know how people are. What do you mean? Yeah some people they just love to take the pills.
What are you talking about bro? Every day? Yeah there's some people that like to visit doctor like
you see. What? Twice a day not even kidding. One more Advil please thank you. One more. Oh this is
boy. My mom works in the emergency room and she says it's kind of the same thing.
a lot of the, she calls them the usuals.
The usuals?
Yeah.
It's as much, I think very common in a free healthcare system, you get the usuals.
Yeah, you-
Talk to people with nowhere to go.
That's a good thing in America, you know, you don't go to the healthcare.
Step brothers, help me on the stock.
No, push it.
I'm coming, step brother.
Yeah, I'll come.
I'm coming.
No, I'm coming.
No, I'm stuck, step brother.
All right.
All right, yeah.
Step brother, don't come back.
Yeah, I got you.
Don't I got you I got you
Boost back in there we go
Now you should have bad jobs in your life though. I think you know good for you gives you perspective. I see that character for sure
Boost some fans that he was a telemarketer. I couldn't imagine
Go daddy. He was a telemarketer for go daddy
Okay truck he's got some we got another one coming
area was this crushed already yes that's a that's a pre-made cube there no I'm
not yellow I'm the green okay yeah that's I don't know no that's just a car
big boost boost how many do we need to make a cube I guess two are you sure yeah
you're gonna fill it up oh fill it up okay so four slots no that's not done
That's not done like put that back put that in back
Nice salvaging I'm killing it. Excuse me. No, you crap. No asshole don't
They're all on the same team here. Oh, we got a cute thing. Take it easy take it easy green
There's no time for that Tom foolery get in there. I
I should you should be able to boost backwards. What are the other buttons to what's that? Oh, that's your horn. Oh
enjoy that
Easy crush very good. You guys are doing absolutely nothing. I'm doing what are you talking about? He's doing nothing. He's getting stuck
I'm trying to get to the last one. There you go the corner. Oh, yeah, actually, we don't need to make any more
We need with two more. There's they're in the corners to left. We have to do two full trucks left. Oh
Oh shit, you're right. All right get the work everyone. I have a lot to do today. Stop boosting over it
What have you done yellow? I have built up an entire truck without you doing anything. He's I need to boost
I need river actually actually you actually need help. Oh, you're stuck. No
All right, I'll get the work
You are always getting stuck
boost
These cubes stealing step brothers
Oh, that's the last one we make them. What do you mean? Where's he he is confused? Yeah,
I think this guy. All right. Thank you, Lacoste. Huge boosting there. Very cool.
All right, let's wrap this up, Jenkins. A lot of cursed existence is that you and me
trying the most. Yeah, that's not good. Not a good time for the first. All right, here we go.
Okay, the last square boost
Where's your gasp on the cost there it is
You're not good enough you're not good enough no
Like that you hey, no
Grab them he's blocking
What is that movie called with robots that are fighting?
I think it was...
Transformer and Bulb.
Real Steel?
Yeah, that's the one.
Yeah, this is just real Steel.
Oh no, another one.
And...
That's weird how these blocks just spawn in randomly, you know?
That's weird how you guys don't do literally anything.
What are you guys doing down there?
I'm trying to...
I'm getting stuck here again.
Oh my God, he really is.
We have three more of these things to do.
All right, there's not a lot of cars left guys. I actually
Boost step brother yellow may I have that car?
Can you do something here for the first time since the game has started? Thank you so much
You're killing it. I've been stuck trying to get this one for so long. Yeah, I just need orders. That's all you just need
soldier go get that truck over there
Unravel it. There we go.
Nice work, Jenkins. I will deliver your nice cube for you.
One over there.
We'll get the last one.
Cube acquired. These look like those red salt things.
I'm stuck again.
You really did. All right.
Well, there's no reason to unstick you.
Okay, he's out.
So back in the day when Dota players were super, super, you know,
You know, there's a lot of money in Dota. Thank you so much. Let me just move you over here real quick
There was a nice option back in Dota
Oh, actually get stuck minus unstuck was the option. Damn. That's in deadlock right now
They need it. They go no don't yellow you buy your time
Anyway, so the players started getting really crazy back in the day when there is like a lot of valve support stuff for Dota
two and one of the players said in every practice room they needed red sea salt and it needed to be
replenished every single day. That's a true story. What player do you think that this was that demanded
from tournament organizers that he have a red sea salt which would be replenished on the daily?
What would you have to guess? How long? Like which year are we talking about? There's a long
time as a PG no no no not that this is like chappy or someone like that not that long ago
what is he using the sea salt for no one knows any any lock ins on chat anybody here
ppd he was the most okay he was a salty guy but he had enough no no unfortunately all right
you ready to give up it was actually girl close a turtle empty the empty so that he
He demanded red sea salt from the legends that I heard very interesting. Wow. Yeah, who knows what it did
I don't know any red sea salt in purveyors in the chat. Can you tell us about its effects?
All right, we're ready to go dump and sort and what's what's boost?
What's the order should do these in is it it's on I think we're ready to go
We're ready to go. That's the first real round of go. Let's go boys
Chunked in salvage. Oh, we're pretty hard. It was pretty what is this start mission? Oh
All right now we have to go quick. We know the rules. It's time to go for real
Okay, get the get the metal get the metal boys. I did three so close already guys guys
We're running at it. Oh my god. Wait, we're not supposed to do okay. Put the metal in the thingies
We got to go. That's a timer gentlemen. Hey, no
You're blocking me. I'm not fucking you. What about the what we don't need the wood, right? I don't know
I have no idea. I didn't really read
We have to get this stuff out of the middle. That's the point.
Okay, tips and salvage boys. Tips and salvage. Here we go.
We have to press it again? Yeah, we have to press it again very soon.
I'll do it, I'll do it. Okay, okay, good. Good. Let's get this car out of here.
Nope. Back it up, back it up. Get down out of here. Where's the wood going?
We don't need it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Just get rid of the wood.
Oh no, the wood goes on the left and the cars go on the right.
the right oh boy oh that's not good i have no idea uh it's not i think yeah yeah that has to be it
that's right get out of the way i'll go i'll go up okay go we have to hit that button so we gotta
hit that button soon yeah just get this stuff out of the middle get the you guys okay i get it off
who's gonna hit the button i'll hit the button how do we hit the button
oh nice we don't want to start the next time or i'll let you guys sort a little bit
Okay, good sorting. Good job. What are you doing at the last second? What are you doing over there?
We're working on working our asses off. Okay. Okay. Let's go. That's the last one
Nothing look on by the way, there's so I want to put the last piece
I need to take a metal piece up there. Why'd you park it like that?
shit
God damn long
All right, oh
Sigh get everything out of the middle. I'll hear a thing. Oh the thing. Okay. I think there's one more
Get the thing out of the middle you need to both go I mean I boost boost
Yeah, I do.
That's OK. OK. OK.
We did it. We did it.
I want to sort.
Now, we need a sort, I think.
Yeah, we need to sort. OK.
Let's get sort. We clutched it out, boys.
We clutched it out. Good job.
All right. I know what I'll grab this.
You grab another one, a piece of shit.
There's some metal that needs to go up.
LaCos, we do not have time for these shenanigans.
You are shenaniging. You are shenaniging.
Don't do that.
Don't do that too much boost. That's a lot of boost. Okay, every other
360 no scope into boosts. Tell me when
Okay, what are you guys doing? I'm putting metal up there. We got we there's another one up there. We have too many cards
Huh? Oh, yeah, there is one up there. Is that metal?
I think we need to bring some back to the middle excuse me
To the middle. Yeah, look in between where you hit the button. There's a two-shatter. Yeah
Yeah, I've already put a piece of metal there. Oh wonderful wonderful job. Wonderful job, Jenkins
If you come near me, I'm gonna flip out the cost
You come near me. I'm gonna lose it
Last piece
Thanks, buddy. Thanks. We got sober. It wasn't you. All right
We go for gold. Can we want to see you want to watch a replay?
Yeah, I don't want to reply. It's a slow mo.
OK, I want to I want to go for gold here, boys.
Oh, man, we have to do better at that one.
No, we have to do all of them.
Oh, OK, here we go.
No one cost.
Well. OK, let's do it.
Boost. All right, we're going for goals.
I want people to think we're God gamers. OK, everybody.
OK, let's focus up.
We're going to try to formulate a plan.
Let's formulate a plan. OK.
So where we got, oh, this is breaking it into the blocks.
All right, let's go. I see. Okay. Okay. Here we go.
So where's the block breaker? Oh, we need to get the blocks out.
I see. Okay. Get the blocks out. Yellow.
You're so, we're supposed to be try hard. I want that gold.
We got one chance for gold here. All right. All right.
Oh, you're not doing anything. I can see. You're not doing anything.
Say when. You're what? Gold! I want the gold.
Everyone has three blocks. You have the biggest thing.
You have to have worked the hardest, Lacoste.
I'm trying to boost this through the door,
so it's out of here.
Oh yeah, it works.
Lacoste, go!
Boost.
That's not the thing we need, bro.
I'm colorblind, okay?
Why are you getting us to not have the controller
or something?
Did you block us?
Is this our purpose?
We need to go, bro.
We're not gonna make you have done anything.
This is the hardest difficulty.
This is not our difficulty.
Okay, come on, brothers.
I want that gold.
Relafed.
Relafed, let's go, keep it up.
Lacoste, help me.
Help me get the stuff out of the way.
Move it.
I like to move it, move it.
Oh, wait, oh, oh no, 10 seconds.
Shit.
10 seconds, what are you doing?
You put the naughty thing in there.
Yeah, it was probably a way we could glitch
these doors to stay open.
Oh yeah, Lacoste, get one of the doors open
permanently, that would help us out a lot.
I'll be able to run through here and he just blocked it. Oh, you maybe you could pass it to me. Oh
Wait, let me see. Let me see. Let's see. What this is. I
Gotta get the okay. We're taking a lot of time to try this
Because how has your one?
One block coming. Have you made it yet?
No, dude, not you go all the way around now
This is my final line. This is my fine move. This is my final
He's playing Mario
This is good tech if it works, why does that roll always get stuck?
Well, yeah, you can oh, so that's the pass. All right, Lacoste. It's all up to you
We're just gonna pass you the squares. All right, this is on you, bud
Stop racing, bro
Get the square where it needs to go. We're not gonna get gold and everyone's gonna think we're losers
now I'm actually still not even kidding I think I'm actually
there's so many things in the way
and I can
all right gentlemen well looks like we're not getting gold last square and then
we're off to break let's see what we got
here we go everybody Lacoste
didn't do a single thing that's here
oh my god oh my
no!
that's the last one, well done
that's a lot everybody for watching, we'll go to a break we'll be back with some more
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All right guys, it's a new day. I did some more detectors work in the mornings buying on the teams and the players
What are they doing in the pubs? What will they bring us today because we've got OG versus VP
They didn't meet in the group stage and OG did a pretty quick 2-0 against them
But let's roll some clips and have a look what some of the teams and the players have been up to in their pubs
On this new patch. So we had OG this was just fresh off the block two hours ago straight from the cookin
So here you have Mr. Niko on the axe and this is a new build, you know, you had Collapse,
he talked about this yesterday, he's got the Shiva's on the axe because you wanna like
amplify your damage because your badlaner doesn't rescale with the armor, you have
Tim's playing his dark willow, so it isn't also just Niko who's playing the axe, he
was also playing them already in some of the other games.
This was Saber-Lite, one and a half hours ago against Yotora who also tried the
Keri Tiny which we just saw in the last series, looked a little bit ass if I
I may say, but you know maybe there's a different build, so you have both offlaners that just
in the last couple of hours already try to play the act.
And one of my favorites that I hope to see as a support is FINE.
He played the Trian Protector in an 80 minute game.
I actually think that this hero is quite viable as a support if people could look
away and not play for the punchy build where you play it as a core.
And ultimately we have to talk about this one because Tomato yesterday, new patch,
I'd rather have him go back to the old him because whatever he did yesterday, that was not it
He had like eight deaths within 12 minutes. He had the worst game I have seen in
Maybe ever when it comes to professional pro, you know for like 12 minutes. That was not good
But I hope you know today you come in with a nice mindset
You're cool. Bulba gives you a nice speech of what you need to do what you're up to and then we're gonna get a good series
So with that let's see what they've got in store for us
Yeah, hopefully something better than yesterday, that's for sure.
But I guess I could say that for both teams, because both teams are in the lower bracket.
Now for this series, it's similar as previous series, whoever wins here also wins top six
and therefore also wins, basically not having to play qualifiers for Dream League Season
28 in ESL One Birmingham.
We're going to talk all about this OG versus Virtus.Pro series, which is a rematch
of the group stages as well.
You've already seen Kezu, you've already seen LaCoste,
and Perch is already hard at work
because our job here today is making a gingerbread house
and also making cookies in the meantime.
And this is a cookie.
It's gonna be really hard to produce this
because I'm gonna eat at least half of the stuff
that we bake, I think, per chef.
No, but you can't eat the house.
You can't eat the house.
You can't eat the house.
We better hurry up, because I'm getting hungry.
I hide it from him.
He can't stop eating sugar.
It only has to be in the oven for like six minutes.
So...
It's not enough.
We got a air fryer or something.
Looking for a second glove.
We got one.
Yeah, we have loads of gloves.
It's in this box.
Would you like 80 gloves?
I would like 48.
Would you like more dough, or do you have dough?
I've got some dough over here.
Right.
It was fragmenting a little bit.
Do you want this dough instead?
Because that one has been rolled out like five times.
Let's just, let's, we can't waste dough, Sheva.
Keep cutting.
Let's go.
Let's start cutting.
Okay, well, this is a bit too thick.
Too thick?
Yeah, it goes really thin.
That's, that's okay.
This is out of control.
Real fast.
Sheva, back to you.
This is out of control.
Alright, we are going to be having OG vs. Virtus.Pro.
Now in the group stages, it was actually the last game they played in the group stages,
and it was against each other, and it was OG that came out on top of Virtus.Pro with a 2-0.
And I will say at that point, you know what, I think over the series that we watched and we were...
Kevin, probably.
This is on speedrun.
Kazoo, the two series that we've seen these subteams lose, was there one team in particular that you felt was losing less hard or rather that you felt was more promising?
OG.
Oh, that's without doubt.
Well, so VP, it was Tamaru who looked like really often the rest still pulled through, but it's still very scary for me, like what happened there.
Whereas OG, I think it was like day one of the new patch where they played, so you know
There's still a lot of stuff to like figure out and they were not doing too bad in their match against tundra
I just watched those replays last night and they just still played overall pretty well
And I'll say that overall they're just they seem like a more impressive team. Okay as of now
What would you say about that mr. Stippage about OG? Yeah, I feel like they are the
Setting kind of the meta even prior to the patch
They were the first one who started to play this carry Windranger that everybody started to copy
Pair it up with nature up to the mid lane starter as well this tricorder. We've seen a lot from them does feel
the standard baking
I'll put flower on the why do you think that happened?
My rolling pin you gotta put more flower on it
I've already heard everything today
I don't know. Insanely and Lacrosse together was great combination with Jenkins in the mix.
Oh, I'm sure it was. That's a tri-castle failure right there.
All right, how big do we want this to be? They're not too beautiful. They're gonna be in our stomach.
That's fine. Um, well, so we're saying that we have higher expectations from OG for this
game in particular. We can look at the seating because overall people had higher expectations
four OG versus Virtus.Pro. Virtus.Pro we see here on 17th. This is the joint
ranking of all the teams to rank each other and then the joint ranking we came
to the conclusion the seeding that we use for group stages. Virtus.Pro is 17th
and they're here fighting for top six so that's already a massive massive
feat for them. OG you see eight spots ahead of them is eight. Totally yeah
Yeah, that's A. In 9th, so they are about where people were expecting them to.
But we do like seeing OG over performance, because we felt like they were kind of...
They should be maybe top 6 overall.
Yeah, they're a good team to watch, right?
And I also would say, you know, they're still relatively new, but they keep performing
like nice.
You know, it's not like this, all they do well in one tournament and then they
drop off.
No, they have five good players, they have good strategies, they're pulling
it together.
a new patch and I even had the 343 the culture of OG. Yeah, I know he's been
messaging lots of people what are your thoughts on the patch you know he's
like trying to get at the idea of putting it together so I want to see what
what they've got in store for us today. So reddit user Johnny69 could actually
be you know bringing ideas to OG how to play the game yeah that sounds
kind of funny. Yeah f343 on reddit of course you might bring it into the
game today. That's funny. What happened with you? Well it looks good. It looks good I just lost a piece. That's not good.
that's our that's our roof so it looks like a fruit roll up made out of beef
cookie dough a beef house yeah what do you do with this scrap you want to eat it
that's been take it we already have had Jenkins and we looked you can eat it if
you're 15 years older I said if you fixed it or older he can eat it if
you're older than 15 you can eat it it says so on the bottom otherwise you
get worms yeah well that's why are these pieces in the middle oh we
baked out it's undercooked it's too thick it looks edible it is edible there is a
couple things edible yes I'm gonna try it off there's quite a few pieces missing
from it looks not bad it's good oh it is good it was supposed to be a wall and
it was not holding up the way you do because I know what we did with it just
getting this I don't want to know this looks nice now yeah that was good
You want to why I gotta make the other one first because the square doesn't fit with it
Actually, you know what I can move these and then the square fits in it or do you think you can't lift it?
Can you lift it? I?
Think it could just yeah, you can lift it for sure
Don't break it can I can help you here a newbie with this that's urgent order expert, but newbie with this
Yeah, you're a pro at this, huh baking? I mean he told me that he's an expert chef
So he likes pretending to be expert at stuff does it fit in here in the middle. I'll be tight
I'm sure you don't need some help. You're doing really well. How did you do it last time?
Oh, yeah, we rolled it. We rolled it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, wait.
There, thanks.
No, because it's not...
This guy's good.
You gotta be going to the middle. Actually, we can move these mushrooms out of the way.
Mushrooms are not as important.
Move the mushroom out of the way. The wall is the mushroom most.
But move the mushroom into the empty spot because we want to eat the mushroom.
Okay, very good.
Very good. Let me put this in the oven.
And in the meantime, can you guys talk a little bit about what type of game we can expect to see from both of these teams?
I would say kind of fast pace.
Like when I look at OG, you know, they play fast, they've got a lot of...
They want to rotate here, they're going to play two supports that can do well with Yopar, go to him, get the runes.
And it's kind of similar, I would say, for VP with Abed.
Abed to me has been the standout player of this team.
Even when they lose, he's like 8-0-8, you know, doing good stuff on his tiny, whatever it is.
To me, it's just can VP keep it together and what did they talk about after their last series, which was an absolute disaster?
Yeah, I mean if you look at the Virtus. Rogue, they did lose four out of their last five games.
Also, coming into the new patch, I want to see how fast this team is going to be able to adapt.
Because that DB game that you did mention, it was one of the biggest shellackings that I've seen.
They just rolled over them.
So they have to be able to punch back earlier.
I think some teams are still experimenting.
We're seeing Falcons also struggling, playing on a new patch,
getting them in a single game out of four games.
So some teams might be slightly slower.
I do feel like OG are kind of prepped for this patch
because they were already playing what's good even in this patch.
We saw other teams trying to copy this next spot from the mid lane,
which was popular before, but they kind of brought it back again.
Yeah, and I feel a little bit bad for them right now
because they had such a cool identity free patch that was unique and like the
first team to do it really successfully will be on top teams. The patch came at the worst time for them.
Now they might just get Blast out of the tournament and I would feel so
disappointed for them but if they can make it work again here other teams
are experimenting with it maybe they have another idea that's similar we've
been seeing them do lots of like carries that aren't carries like they
They did Leshrac with Spell, Love Asset, and then Bloodlust on him so you can get it back faster.
They're doing cool stuff basically.
So I love watching teams do interesting things like this, so hopefully they find their footing
and continue going into this tournament.
I even saw the Natsumi play carry Ayo in a pub yesterday.
Yeah, it wasn't very good, but they tried it.
It's OG Magic.
It is OG Magic.
They're cooking.
What did they pair it up with?
I forgot.
A piece of paper that makes a sidewall.
It's a rectangle. It's on the rear...
This one?
No, that's right.
Yeah, sorry, that's the only one I got.
So what is this roof?
It's the one that says... No, it's the one that says sidewall or something.
That's not here.
It should be there.
Nope, a stack of paper in your hand.
Nope, it's not here.
I'll find it myself.
I'll just keep it.
Blinded me self.
Blinded me self over here.
It's just under stuff.
What the heck? You have it in your hand.
Okay, so I can see you. The draft has begun, please.
Yes, Lacoste, please.
As you can see, not much has changed,
even though there was a lot of changes.
Actually, some of the offlaners, they're still pretty much the gods of the game.
Timbersaw is going to be one of them,
and they're still seeing the counterpicks on 9,
immediately taking that gyrocopter.
Something that Natsumi does is something that...
Not sure if he was the one who started it, because I think it was Parker before who didn't buy BKB on his Jarocopter.
Then we saw Yatoro starting to build into Mantis-style, then others started to copy it as well.
This is something that Natsumi does as well. This is a very comfortable hero for him, I would say, except for maybe that one Blunder when they were playing at Valakia, which didn't...
The Divine Rapier incident.
Yeah, the Divine Rapier incident, but he looks comfortable on the hero.
much comfortable on the hero.
Carpet, careful.
That's okay.
There's a cathedral vacuum cleaner.
I hope somebody does, because we've been spilling
arts and crafts crap on this carpet all week.
I mean, I will say, I'm surprised
that some heroes in the patch, like, they really dodged
the nerf hammer.
I mean, timber was hit a little bit, but this hero
still looks way too good. Thing was, like, just hero.
This hero's massive. Windranger out
of all heroes got buff buff.
Yeah, do you feel like, obviously, everybody's now
Everybody's now first phase banning it. Is it a warranted or is it a slight overreaction?
Obviously in this series it would be anyway because OG especially, they already good with it before so that's the team that I would expect to ban it against.
I do think it's warranted. It was already so good. It was like the kind of the new shit on this tournament.
The Windranger carry, then she gets a buff. Well, she's too good.
point in the last year or two is that they've been a little bit more careful to not over nerf
the heroes that are the best heroes, which is good and bad because sometimes it does lead to tournaments
where the same heroes are good even after the patch, unfortunately. But in the same vein,
it's not fun for the player base, I think. If you're like, oh, I really like playing
Windranger Carry, and then it gets nerfed on the ground, you just don't want to do it
for nine months. That's also kind of bad. So I think they're just trying to be a little
a little bit more careful not to dumpster things.
Well, that said, Pango had it coming
because he's been...
Oh, he's dead.
He's dead, dead.
Because this like, Pango survived the patch thing,
happened like way too many times
where he was like prime candidate number one.
Yeah, as a fellow Pango enjoyer,
I think this has to be one of the biggest,
if not the biggest nerf in Dota history.
This is just literally unplayable.
I'm reading the text and I'm like, yeah,
this is really bad.
you remove the slowest wall from his shield crash and then you don't get as much barrier.
I'm like, that's a massive, this hero's not going to get picked.
And there's still like eight lines of text underneath that I'm like, Oh my God, what's happening?
But sometimes you got to break their legs so can heal.
Okay, I said this the other day, you have these legs got broken.
They took away the slow from shield crash with the rolling thunder.
You still have a BKB immune alt that can change some people.
You're starting an engine.
Yeah, it's like in the winter, like it's just not a turning on.
Yeah, it's really fun, so encourage a G5 Blink Tagger on the hero or something,
instead of just like a billion great damage items.
I'm not saying that they didn't break his legs.
I'm just saying, like, that you can't process what comes.
Yeah, I'm saying, yeah, yeah.
Well, we won't let...
Sometimes you gotta get in the pin.
We won't see him anytime soon, I think,
because the hero is kind of...
I will say, though, the teams are taking a long time now
to think about the second phase bans.
We're finally in the second phase of picks,
But that doesn't mean I want to spend a little bit of time talking about these bands because we got the
Primal Beast and Mars. I guess actually there's not that much surprise in the bands that we see coming out. The Primal Beast Mars is normal
Terablation normal. That's an alarm. That means cookies are done almost.
Oh, I thought it was like you accidentally set an alarm while you're...
No, I intentionally set an alarm. You can hold that. That's yours.
Thank god, I'm not waiting to...
There was um, like clock had a really big decrease of his win rate. Did they fix the large cogs?
Because you could run out of them.
I believe, I think you can't like double, you can't like chain hit them inside of the
cogs.
Okay.
Like when you hit them with one and it pushes them into a stationary one, I think it doesn't
double bounce anymore or something like that.
Yeah, I still like it a lot against the team.
Yeah, it's very good.
Just allows you to get a kill, trap him, that's why he's called Rall's Trap, so
you can trap people and kill them.
You have insane amount of magic damage and this one I would maybe prefer if we
you're going to be seeing Clockwork in a lane with this Gyrocopter and also putting points
in his battery.
Like we've seen these positions for Clockwork's playing for pretty much one point in battery
or no points at all.
Now this is something that Skullfield does.
I think in this one you want to have that extra bit of a damage so that you can actually
kill this Timbersaw.
Huerta is in relatively good response to it because she can bounce back Clockwork
when they try to go aggressive, the afterburn as well from the Gyro.
So you can bounce back, have a little bit of protection for your Timby.
Okay, so let's see. They go for the Muerta. Chen Muerta has looked a lot better.
I saw Fy also play it last series. I mean, Chen has been good for a long time now.
So I wonder about the clock, because I would prefer him to be with the Gyro Man as well,
for the Damageo plus Damageo.
But then a lot of Range Force don't really love Lainey into the Chen as much.
Maybe it's not as bad, because the Mana Burn isn't quite as potent as it used to be.
I think we're not going to be seeing the Mana Burn faster.
Yeah, I don't think it's like 25 up the max 30 man. Yeah, I think it's bad
The idea the chin fest is fine like there were there was a couple teams that use that yeah
I remember seeing a clip where a chin with his hellbear contested the
The the Lotus shrine against two heroes by himself. Yeah, and like got the shrine got the thing
I was blown away. I was like, oh this creeps actually amazing
I think it's really really fine because I was thinking about like willow
I don't know if you care much about Chen in the lane at least it gets you like some decent team fight
It's good against Timber, he got some more damage.
Mr. Doom.
It's a very good response.
Just the healing overall that they have from Chen, great against Timber saw as well.
So it seems like this is something that Niko plays, exceptionally well.
Yeah.
And Shaman, Shaman has been on the rise.
This is something that Thaksa did run twice yesterday.
Yeah.
It felt really good, especially the late gameplay that he sold his items,
that pickup refresher and kind of ended the game.
That's clutch.
Here I'd better receive a little bit of a buff as well.
Yeah, like especially when you lane into a lane where they can't cancel your shackle,
like that 100 HP damage plus heal to yourself, that's a lot.
Do you know what the mana cost is?
Is it just like a better brain stuff now pretty much?
It might be. I think the mana cost is quite low actually.
It's like 100 or something.
Yeah, it might even be less.
The really valuable skill for sure.
And the hero has high base damage, you're slow, but like the disables can really pay off.
Yeah, he's definitely very...
And I like the Doom.
Like a lot of the times Doom can be a weird hero because he's very slow,
But the other heroes really make up for it, like Clock can play fast, Gyro as well.
You have a good lane, you can rotate on the Doom and like make, like, offset his kind of slowness in the game.
Because against Himber Chen, as you mentioned, also in the lane against Chen, you don't care about it as much.
You can snag some of the creeps later.
So, yeah, I kind of like what's happening here for OG.
Okay, Groovy.
I mean, they did get the Abed Tiny, which, I feel like there's a bit of a resurgence
of like the melee mid guys with like the Muerta 4, like the Void Spirits, Embers, the
Tiny setup for the Muerta, this is very very strong. So I want to see how OG go about this
because it's really not, you need to either match these guys like three-man ball post
laning stage or be able to also shut them down in like the early and mid game.
I think yesterday in the games Virtus.pro did not win, Abbot still was the one that
looked fantastic on his time. So it's very, that seems very scary.
I feel like I've just seen Hobbit snowball blast a lot of teams in the last couple days like he hadn't been doing before
Yeah
Just feels like these are the heroes for him
It doesn't have to be like a spirit hero can just be like a tiny or a slaughter or something
You can destroy the whole game
VP needed to motto hero. I'm a bit surprised that OG ban a badden when they have to doom themselves
Do you think there's a possibility this tiny is gonna be played from the carry roll?
This is something that has a chance
Yeah, it has status assistance, which is very good against doom
It's very good against the shaman as well. Maybe we do new
It was like stick on one side not tick on the other side now part of it a point little point of it
It's like slightly dark slightly. Oh, yeah, I can smell it actually I can smell the
Yeah, we can smell that corner. Well, you know hidden the mess. What can I say?
All right. I made it shape like Greenland. Is that good? It is very good. Well done
It's time to put some shapes into them. Are you ready?
I mean, I just... Yeah, Toro played it earlier today as well.
Yeah, this one.
I was back because of the tree damage, his wall, some of the carries got nerfed.
But I'm a bit surprised about this Abaddon band that they...
I don't think they missed that.
Because you have Doom. You have the best counter in the game.
Repeat after me?
Yeah.
Earth Spirit! So that means the Tiny is a carry.
We saw Tiny carry earlier today. Didn't re-work out?
No, now you say it, Kevin.
Oh, it's a tiny carry guy.
That's resistance, which is really good.
I'm sorry, team.
It's okay, I'll start it.
It's a little ghost or something.
Well, let's see. It's the Ember mid, which is quite good
against the Earthsword overall.
You can combo break him early on.
You don't really get pressured too much.
I wouldn't say you really stop the Earthsword yourself,
but clock and gyro can...
This can be quite annoying for us, but if you're not careful, there's a lot of turn-around
damage on you.
Would you like to see the mage player on Ember?
I know you'll yap about this, like all the time in other games.
This is a Spirit Vestal game, like this is Spirit Vestal, she was maybe an item in-between
depending on how the game is going to develop, but you're playing against these high HP
cores you have playing against, the chan you're playing against, the timbersaw as
well.
So a lot of value that you're going to be getting from that vessel.
I just want to take a moment to appreciate the fact that we got...
Very tiny.
versus Abed, Filipino matchup in the mid lane.
And I feel like both of them have been doing really well.
So I feel like, you know, you can't proper compare.
I mean, they're both like kind of the,
some of what like the star players of the team,
it's what the teams both play around.
So the early game, I wouldn't,
wouldn't even be surprised if all the three guys
that keep clashing against each other.
You know, Timmy with the mid guy,
you have Abed getting support, ready.
Game is also ready.
I have just been told.
So it's time to head over there.
Before we get to our car street show,
we're gonna check in with some pock champ condos!
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to Virtus.Pro vs. OG elimination match and it turns out,
I don't think our analysts noticed this, but it's going to be a tiny carry, Avery.
Nobody picked up on it.
Yeah.
Well, tomorrow we'll be able to pick it up and do some work with it here.
You saw it earlier today, did not go too well.
Yeah, it has not been inspiring.
No, but it does give you that flex and you kind of get to last something else that can maybe carry the game alongside him.
So I get the draft value.
I'm sure it'll still function well enough to give you a chance to win the game.
Okay, so then that means you think that this Earth Spirit they got from the flex pick is an OP pick up.
It's the more important component.
That's how I phrase it.
Okay, well, I don't like the heroes OP.
So I'm trying to get a judge from you out of whether or not this is worth flexing tiny to carry
Because so far tiny carry has been bad so
You better make up for it with your mid pickup. So is Urspirit a game winner here?
I don't think it's the end all be all gotcha, but I think it's good enough
I think this draft makes sense very well rounded draft has a little bit of everything
And I think both these traps are pretty equal in a lot of respects
If I already give an edge, I might honestly give this flight edge to VP just because Chen
is kind of a stupid hero.
It does feel like he's been phoning.
Chen just does Chen things, so I give a slight edge there, but you know, you have
Doom for some anti-heal, you have an Ember that can go Vessel, so you have some anti-heal
mechanics to sign up against a Timber or a Chen.
You're going to have some decent counteract with the gameplay there in the itemization.
And Chendo and Chen things when you've got Urspirit, Tiny, and Timbersaw cores sounds really good.
Those are some tanky heroes and if you can give them auras to make them even tankier, they just run out of damage on OG.
I've already seen him start now with that Swiftness aura on the little Hellbear 4, the Tiny nice hero to give some extra attacks if you do.
Oh yeah, that's true. That's some cool little synergy already.
take the gluttony on the doom for the double devour.
So you have to be a little careful about what this guy's
eating off the lane.
But I am more interested in this mid lane.
Her spirit with Abed versus Yopaj on his signature Ember.
Two C brothers meet again on two heroes that are brothers.
That's right. Highlander rules.
Only one Filipino mid is allowed to exist in this
tournament.
I'm gonna say, I'm sad about this matchup.
What?
Virtus.
Pro and OG?
I think it has been a breath of fresh air to have these two teams be good.
It's nice to be able to have this old Shopify crew kind of coming back into form after it's
It's been a long, long while since they were there.
It's cool to see Saberlight, you know, kicking some butt.
And it's always good to have a C team,
maybe not at the top, but near the top.
Oh, I agree with all that.
I mean, these are fun teams to watch.
And it's one of them's gonna get eliminated.
It's sad, but that's how it goes.
Should've been better.
10 and 7, Yopaj is taking it to Abed right now.
I mean, all that 7 and 7 is not bad.
Not the end all day all year.
Oh, got another one.
That's a range creep tonight.
That's like two denies in one.
It's true.
Yopaj definitely winning this lane.
Winning the regen battle, winning the CS battle, it's going the embers way slightly
But the two carries are really the ones absolutely free farming here.
Playing for Lotus, little awkward, they're gonna be sitting in this calling for a lot
and just take so much damage, any time Saber-Lite gets close to him now.
Now, Filmy is still gonna be able to get the kill and maybe double, actually, so damn
fast.
Look at her just...
Chasing down Saber-Lite gets a double kill out of it, meanwhile, Tomatoe died in the
bottom lane.
OG wins on both sides of the equation.
shackled into the chain lightning off of the doom a very nice early creep devour
or he go down here that tiny as the high-hp pools he's not the best hero
it's zapping down but use your mana that efficiently strong start that's all
saying you have to be wary about the creeps you're trying to get with the
chin down here off the small camp being into the doom kind of backfires
reverse pro down here as the freeform tiny goes down and the lane
suddenly going OG's way off that double kill top.
Natsumi has had himself a tournament here.
Comes that roll, trying to get the Water Roon,
and does get grabbed by Abbot.
He's gonna need that extra regen too,
because he's locked in a cage.
Deadshot doesn't push your posh away.
House scream.
That was awkward.
That was not a good deadshot.
What was that?
That was very awkward.
Like, isn't he supposed to bounce it off the clockwork
and hit it into the amber?
Or you just save it to disjoint the clock off the Earthspirth,
So we can get out of there sure me either take the fight or bail them out
They kind of didn't either and they just lose all bed on a water room of all things
So now the ladyface definitely going oj's way
Getting some extra experience for their supports this first period's getting shut down a little bit in the one of you
One and in the game or
There are some awkward matchups here for the clockwork.
You've got very tanky cores that he really can't threaten very easily.
The calling is going to be an issue, Chen just brings a lot of creeps to the table so
kind of let me see if that units the cogs.
Assault Saber-Lite though is not having a good time against Natsumi's Jharakopter.
He should be running down time and time again. He lives here, but he limps a lot.
In fact, the Jharakopter double kills solo XP. He's already level 5. You already have three points in barrage.
So hard to stay in a lane.
Natsumi a massive threat in this laning phase.
The lane never gets pulled back here. It's very difficult for Saber-Lite to walk up.
Shackles and chain lightning again just like last time the flies gonna come in but it's too late for tomorrow
And that's it. It's gonna be too late. It looks like for them to get a kill off of it
How do you run down Saber light meanwhile? I
See what is going on getting a little out of hand here seen some rough landing stages for VP this event
They don't need to win lanes. They are very good mid game team. They can recover
But this is getting a little rough.
You're accelerating some of these cores to a large degree.
And the arcane rune taken by Scam.
Yopaju had rotated hoping for a bottom rune, one set fine to kill on Hellscream.
And...
Boy, he's going to commit to kill Tims here.
The kick goes out.
Roshan!
Oh, he intercepts it.
And he's the one to kill Tims.
Nice little read there. Denying of it. Anything in this game.
This first spear is really falling behind now. Just once level 6, try and find a kill with that, that's probably your best play here.
It's gonna be tough though, even if you get the 6 on the air spear. Where are you gonna go with it?
You're gonna go top into this mega over level gyro? That's a tough fight.
You're gonna go bottom into Doom who has purge creep? That's a tough kill.
You can't really kill this Ember, it just has flamethrower and mobility.
This could be a tough early game for the Ursprit to convert on some big core kills as OG looking
to contest the shrine with the overlevel gyrocopter.
This might be a little greedy scam.
Already winning the laning phase.
And now, oh, they're going to get punished.
They're going to get punished real hard potentially as the Hex goes down, stopping the kick
away there from the Ursprit, not to be letting a bunch of damage onto Avid.
Can Avid survive?
have at least the magnetized they'd like timber chains back does not really take out no
He does not so that really I mean they got two kills off it, but they lost their Earth spirit
That should have got better for oji on us a hundred percent should have if the clock is
Synergize with his two other heroes they bring the ember that can be a disaster for verse proposal
They did not get what they want. They lose off it again, but I also could have been worse
Oh, I thought you're saying it should have been better for vertus, bro
Well, like a Chamberlain coulda chambered chain forward.
Well, that makes your Gyro done.
I think the way that went, it could have been better for VP,
but I think if OG make that move properly,
if they bring the Ember and the Clock
with full resources to that fight
right when the Gyro gets there,
I think that's a tough fight for...
Yeah, you're dropping like the Gyro
ults on the Wisdom Shrine.
Yes, there's Cog's battery down.
Yeah.
They basically got this kill scam for free
and the Ember was late to the party
and you still didn't even get the Gyro out of that.
So, tough deal for VP as they're gonna bring the tiny top to look for not too many.
This is where the strength of the tiny carry comes in.
Very dangerous hero though.
No toss, 204 build for him.
Nice defensive ward up here.
He's de-warded but did its job.
OG will dodge this game.
Now that he's spotted Hero's Tommado, he was gonna go through the game now.
He comes back to commit the TP's are coming in though and tomorrow's gonna be in some trouble
That is a level 7 doom and they may not even be doomed to kill tomorrow in fact with oh man
The shadow shaman came in from the other side killed fly at the same time or indeed the vision for not too many
Get it with the fly cannon kills. I mean, oh gee is just absolutely
destroy
Virtus pro in this early game. I should be every move they make out maneuvering them the vision game has been on point
They're just reading the moves setting up for it. This tiny is nothing. Lost his career off that as well
Still haven't really seen a magnetized go work in these fights
TP in from fly and immediately going to die
Neoma
This is getting rough
How hard to see where the playmaking's gonna come from, for VP.
Again, it has to be Hobbit.
He needs to find some core kill connections here.
And you're still looking at this Gyro, because the other cores I think are more difficult
to kill.
Oh, this looks a little difficult with no direct stuns.
This again, feels like Virtus Pro are kind of forcing things and OG is really prepared.
How do you even get the shackle?
They get the shackle?
No follow-up.
Abbot survives, but you lose another power rune.
You lose another core kill.
You do not claim that gyro.
Better hope this magnetized does a lot of work.
They need some recovery kills being down 4k.
Hellscream is definitely gonna die here.
But what can Avid get out of this?
Rolls past Tins, gets the re-up on the magnetized,
but now Tins is gonna shackle Trey and heal himself up.
He is...
Hive and dead?
Not even dead.
And now the Tindall is doing Tipper's,
I mean, like, yo, you wanna tap out now or what?
This is absolute outplay.
Not, it's not just a draft problem.
It is just out maneuvers, outlaning,
little advantage is going OG's way,
Bringing more numbers to the flight, disjointed plays from VP, they don't have the most natural support duo to set kills up if the cores fall behind.
OG really taking advantage of it.
4k gold lead, 5k gold lead, 11 minutes.
It's not an insurmountable lead, but it does kind of like...
It just feels like OG's just better.
Yeah, there's better right now for sure.
It's not about the lead, it's about how this lead got built.
There isn't one of those leads where, oh there was Huskar mid, what could we do?
Yeah, yeah.
There's a lead where you're just straight getting outplayed at every turn.
And you need to find a way to stabilize this game right now.
Vessel, done for Yopaj, three charges on it.
Just casually walking up and de-boarding.
Yes, so much freedom in this game.
This country was just about to die.
Yopaj gets there in time to kill an observer.
Just nothing going right for VP.
See if they can slow this game down. There's a mistook shot, okay, there's something. Gotta
find some more farm for the Chen, get him one or two small ores here. Levels for Hell
Scream. As your Mortha is your best follow-up stun in Silences game, but he's just missing
so much XP. If you need that first fighting item on all bed, he's trying to go Blade
Mail here. His effective net worth will be a lot higher if he can finish that.
It's still a ways off. This is like one of the slowest games of his career right here. Yeah, he is the poorest core
Do not jungle too fast with this here either
Definitely jungles, but it's a slog. He is almost half not sui's network
Rough times out here and smoke coming through yo potch with those vessel charges wants to find anything and he will find
Juicy chin
Maybe not the target you want to find.
Atlanche covers it!
Ok, headshot!
There you go!
BP!
Find a fifth kill for themselves.
And kinda stem the bleeding a little bit.
That's what you want.
Just stabilize, group up defensively, let OG overextend, and definitely recover in
this game.
Game up to as usual, camp blocking shenanigans.
He really likes century blocking enemy camps.
He does it almost every game.
Yeah, I feel like there was a window of time where we just gave up on doing that.
I think when the bigger map came in, people were like,
there's so many camps.
You know, I blocked out one camp, each is gonna go somewhere else.
The walking camps is very efficient if you're ahead too.
The enemy has limited access to the map if you take away the map they do have, it kind
of just gets stuck wondering what they're supposed to do, it's not as if you're taking
farm away from your team, when you have so much more space to operate on.
Supposing on that blade mail it is a slow crawl for all that here. You can see that VP
want to make a move, they just don't have the items to do it right now.
So gotta keep stalling, try and avoid the pick offs.
Gyro is gonna be big no matter what, you're just gonna have to deal with that.
Try and get the survivability up.
Don't have to get an up off their lineup to deal with that.
You can definitely go late here, assuming everybody gets farmed and the Chen backs
them up.
I think my biggest concern is when you're behind like this with this lineup, you don't
have like the best control. No, especially tiny isn't going, you know, like any sort of blink dagger type deal.
You have damage though. You can bring your cores together. You have Urspir tiny for some extra stuns. It's
going to involve everybody joining the fight at the exact right moment to find those big kills.
If OGs start on your cores, the fight's probably already lost in the game state. Can't let them
walk up and just land hook shot into doom and chains and there's gyrospells getting thrown down.
We're gonna smoke Yopah's top again. We're really trying to get this ember's momentum going.
These are the plays you have to dodge if you're VP.
He go, he wants that doom on the timbersaw. It's not needed though.
Saberlight is finding absolutely no purchase in this game. He can't fail life.
He's trying to get to a pipe, but he is just dying to all this early magic damage.
He's so far behind by the time he gets this pipe.
I know Bob and Ned did finish the blade mail.
Got the roll away.
Yeah, what?
Space for Tiny to recover.
Tamato definitely doing that.
They hear the confarvery fast.
Do them available?
Her spirit's a little too fast on the map.
Burnespell thinking this is a moment where O.G. overextended themselves,
kicking Tim's back into the rest of the team, a 6 kill now.
And they have managed to keep this net worth even.
They got up to 5k and it's kind of just sticking there now.
They have the early fighting items again, they can bind the cores.
They have the stuns, they have the damage, that's where the threat is going to lie.
So if you're O.G., you just don't want to overextend into the VP group up.
If you can poke him, you can probably see who's there, but do not just run into their entire line-up on the group.
That is the strength of this Chen-based draft here.
You will have to respect this game, no matter how far ahead you are.
They could have damped damage for Yopaj. Very nice room.
Looks like VP also got rid of most of the vision in their jungle areas, so not a lot
of information for OG to make moves onto right now, but kind of just playing a static setup
farming towards DKBs. At which point you can just go for the Roshan force with the Shaman
wards. Or you can just do a really aggressive smoke into enemy triangle.
That to me is crazy farm. Yes, that's it.
Maginins, Crystallis, already done. They're just going to force the Roshan out with
the Doom DKB. They say that's enough. They're right about that one.
Not to me does enough physical damage that it should take so long to bring this down, so for more it really helps as well.
You have amp damage on your project, the fight does break out, so very confident to take this right now.
I think this is a fight that, in theory, is contestable.
But not one VP likely ever take, given the game state.
Took a while to get there, but finally.
Roshan does fall, gives VP good amount of time to farm, but the upcoming team fight has
to soon they want no part of it.
Do you want to see OG kind of pick up the threat around the map though?
You do not want to see this lead stay at 5k for the next 5 or 6 minutes.
You have a lot of independence on the Gyro, which means you can just go and look for kills.
You have Blink Shaman, you have Hookshot, your supports can give you the catch, and your cores can give you the damage.
So you just want to combine it in these two or three man hit squads and pick VP apart across the map as they try and recover.
You can get deep vision out, that'll help you a lot.
Right now they're just stacking it up.
It would definitely reach into a bit of a lul, which I'm sure Virtus Pro are happy with considering they were just waiting out all over the map, but Tamato, he's gonna be caught here, blink! Revealed from Tim's!
And Tamato, no PKB, no PKB in sight!
Just massacred by this infernal blade. Such a good spell against the now 4.2 strength game.
Just melt him with the percent burn Yeah, combine with innate when you're this far
ahead right?
Oh, are you in extra 25% damage?
All these heroes are lower level than doom.
This is the same level Oh, it's tiny 13?
I wonder, it doesn't have to be an actual level.
Yeah, it has to be an actual level.
the same as, uh, Winter Mibrans or whatever.
What?
Oh, what?
Well, one of those heroes has like, uh, the same definition where it's like, the whole
unit says, oh, what?
And it's not just a difference in experience, you need to be an actual level.
I don't remember what the hero's innate was.
I'm not heard mentality?
Yeah, spirit breaker, that one.
It was one of the weird experience ones.
Oh, there's Tormentor, new and improved jetpack.
You can toggle.
Oh, I don't know.
If I realize this shard is so bad they want to give you the ability to turn it off mid-use.
What is your problem?
That's how you know a shard is bad.
Oh, we forgot to give you the off button here.
It was so good, why would you ever want to turn it off?
me that also you got a real life jetpack would you ever turn off no down the
doom that's a lot of damage okay almost killed in pkb tp way they have no
control to get through that well that's bad it is pretty sad so you're saying
radiance is a bad eye
radiance yeah yeah it's pretty bad now I only want to see it
The only reason they made that toggle wall is because you have to be able to hide it
when you're smoking.
That's it.
Some change for Miracle, so you like hide in the trees and all that good stuff, y'know.
No Geonslaw, they're just power through powers, they are killing a lead during this
period.
Got a surprise, not to be with DKB before finishing up the Daedalus, such a good DKB game.
This spell for the Earth Spirit spells you just ignore so much damage in their line.
I just thought he would mid-max the Aegis, you know.
What?
I don't think they have a lack of damage, is the thing.
Doom, Ember, Vessel charges.
Nice little setup from VP, trying to bait out this position around the 2-1 move that they get spotted by the rocket flare, heads of rocket flare from Skenn, it's going to stand up like a dump.
He got the information, thanks to Skenn, unfortunately the follow up really wasn't quite there, and so he's like,
And away, hook shot in, grabs Tomato.
Tomato, a really good catch.
And again, no way to be able to stop all this magic damage
that's going to ensue.
No PKB, so he just falls.
Meanwhile, the Doom on the Earth Spirit,
they've done enough damage.
Is he going to die inside of the fountain?
I think he might.
Chakram goes out, but the jet pack, incredible charge,
does get skim away to safety.
Nobody dies on the side of OG while free fall on Hurtis
Bro, sick hook shot from Skipper.
Utilizing that jetpack to all its potential, he gets in there, gets the angle.
Very close angle.
I'm going to invis tiny trying to get away and just locks him in a cage and you're absolutely done once that happens.
No BKB to stand your ground, just get melted by all the single target focus damage.
I mean it was such a one-sided fight, not to me it didn't even pop BKB.
BKB.
The fight's kind of over at this point, again, you just cannot get jumped on your force if
you're a Virtus Pro.
The fight's gonna be way too easy for OG, just running you down, they have the superior
technology, they have the superior levels.
Can't stand your ground yet.
Another reason the early BKBs are so influential here is, you know, Albin has one item in
this game, it's played now.
They're not doing a lot to BKB heroes.
Natsumi now pops that BKB!
Okay, he strikes it tomorrow!
The Carrie Tiny continues to struggle
though the Shadow Blade is going to get him out here.
They didn't have any detection between these two cores, of course.
And it's going to be an overextension here from OG.
They lose their Doom. They lose their Ember.
Big, gold swing.
Four VP off of that.
Nice little turn-offs in Street Gold as well.
Yeah, 1200 for the Doom.
See if Timbs can get out of here blinkin' one?
Oh, they actually tagged him with damage, unable to get the blink off.
That was great to get him just in time, well played.
That's a four man wife right there. I am very surprised Yopaj died.
That was extremely close.
It's just enough damage between the Morta and the Earth Spirit there.
No BKBL that Ember does make him susceptible to some of the chain silencing and all that.
Skept's not done though.
He just goes straight back to it.
The game plan every single time.
Go after Tomato, catch him, and let his team fall through.
But this time around stuff of his team was still dead.
Not everybody was in position to follow that up.
Little too over anxious there.
Yeah, he jumps in and Jaros like, I mean I could flak in him.
I don't even have my ultimate back up, skim.
back up, Scam. Tiny's proving his worth a little bit. Super tanky hero. Again, a lot of the
damage OJ have is nuke damage right now. The scaling right click isn't really online for
the gyro. It's coming there. Datalus has done that. Definitely helps, but most of it's
Infernal Blader Vessel that's going to trunk this Tiny. Other than that, it's kind
of a beast, man. He is closing in on that BKB, which will give Virtus Pro the
the ability to stand on that frontline, take the fight,
keep the formation for their Shen.
Super important in this game.
To get an idea of how impactful that was,
that OG threw away that fight in the mid lane,
it was a 90-10 game, and now it is a 75-25 game.
Obviously they're still ahead,
obviously they're still very favorite,
but this is at a point where the game
was almost unplayable for this grill.
Still a difficult position,
But, it's a whole beam.
Up I might actually get a second item.
It's closing in on that she-haze.
Save the light going on walkabout here.
Definitely still some decent concern without bomb this gyro is to just carry this game.
Satanic you have pack leader aura on the doom getting even more dps
You don't have great ways to burst not to me in this game
Your life just doesn't hundred to zero this guy unless time you can walk up to them and just combo it
should never happen
Tim's out of mana
See what I thought to himself that he was gonna cut some waves somehow Tim's was
one step ahead of
Caught him the moment he showed for a creep
And then Nico falls it up. Do about a bang bad a boom. Those are big pick offs
You can get these waves out install the game as VP. That's time for your tiny to farm
Very dangerous to show right now giving all the state farm to the tiny
trying to get a lot of those DKB before they roche, but it does. It's just a little too
slow. Giving all of this farm to Tiny, and Tiny actually carried this game.
You can get good angles in the fight and find some great initiation off the Shadowblade,
sure. With OGR Discipline, and you take those angles away, it looks tough. Aegis is
This is gonna be very difficult for, or just for a deal with here.
OG is going to do this at the 20 minute, 28 minute marker, so double wisdom strides for DP.
I don't know.
Help them along a bit.
But I like that killer move.
By the gem, on this second Aegis,
this is OG's time to either end the game or cripple Virtus Bro.
They do see the gyro at the bottom. If DP wanted to try and start a fight right now, no carry
here for the first half of it. We see OG just kind of swinging all their heroes to that
bottom half of the map. Do not want to give an initiation up without Natsumi's presence
as they are pushing towards the Opaash BKB. So if you don't take the fight now as
DP and they just have triple BKB available, that fight becomes really difficult. You
might not have a choice though. Base defense wise you always do have that
toss back but it's not a blink tiny yet.
Also that blink toss back you can just get hexed when you're going. So this is
not the easiest base defense for VP here. You can find the shaman that's
great. OG should be aware of this they should be protecting the supports.
Satanic and an Aegis. He's fast at level 20 as well for the black hits. This is
going to be so hard to bring down this Jarocopter.
Tamato just trying to finish Blink Dagger so you can go for that toss back play.
After he can back and fight without it is inbiz. My people get the walk up.
There it is. Gets Tossed back.
Immediately is going to be jumped,
but he gets off the BKB.
Unfortunately, Jarcopter is kind of untouched here.
The Earthspear pulls it in the backline, and does demolish two different supports.
Oh, the Shadow Shopping actually survives.
Sliver of HP for him.
He's good.
Just the clockwork did that.
Even with the Tossed back,
I mean, there's two lives on that.
To me, he's got Psychantic.
He'll always live.
Yeah, frankly, it's just not
a winning strategy to...
If he did anything, he would have tossed his helicopter back to his team.
Or would you just not giving them another option, presenting no other opening?
Is he only just dead here?
Do they have no smokes or anything?
They do. I mean, they could have smoked in flank. They have three smokes on Hellscream.
I felt like one of those fights where maybe you go in with the Tiny, you keep the Chen in base, you smoke the other heroes around.
and just look for the shaman cleanly
try and avoid a doom landing on your earth spirit because doing the earth spirit
pretty straightforward here
it's still ages for two minutes
and they have damage waiting at the top river i think you have to just go fight for vp though
doom's on cooldown
Kind of the best opportunity you're gonna get.
They better do some de-warding if they do that because there is vision all over their side of the map.
Got one sitting in the mid lane and the top lane. Any moves that Virtus.pro make that it's not smoked.
It's gonna be spotted.
Warden the base from skim, he's gonna go in.
They got the initiation on the Earth Spirit, though a beautiful avalanche hits on two.
Locking in that Earthspear with the empty damage, doing the flak cannon shot,
Toppette gets the roll away and back to the fountain.
He almost back to a flak cannon shot there.
One final shot followed him all the way back to the fountain,
but he healed just enough to stay alive.
You have to go though. You're just gonna get megas here.
Juma's coming back off cooldown. One second.
The fight did not get easier, and they are looking for the smoke flank,
but Allbot gets scanned.
Well, it's Shivas, he's not fighting anything with this.
Completely wrecked by MGM, and she's gonna take out here.
So Enola grabs that tool, another 45 seconds for the Aegis.
But not to me, he's not going to give them a break here.
He's standing, I'm either gonna take the Megas, or you're going to have to fight through this Aegis.
One or the other.
Range barracks down, now Saber-Light's been caught, trying to clear good clogs to get him out of there in time,
I'm butt-chained up and the gyrocopter falls through with the damage.
Shimato just through the AoE is already in half HP and that's going to be Megas.
Not sure he's going to finish this.
Easy 32-minute Megas here.
And ready to go with the butterfly to slot in as soon as that E just expires.
Classic gyro game never died.
Had that tremendous landing stage against the timber.
Just ran away with it completely untouchable.
You have to toss and kick this guy into the fountain at this point
I remind that honestly
Titanic butterfly
One last smoke
The boys like Tim's just play right in front of their fountain
Got him like he's gonna die
is a no doubt not to me dropping the bomb
like shots all over the place will take
out two and the throne will make it
three gg oh gee just for this bro man
that was not a game that was a thrashing
really enough it's not the most one-sided
game we've seen for Viki this event
it's been quite a volatile event for
than we've seen them get shellacked harder, but that game felt 100% controlled by OG.
I don't think there was a moment in that game where VP took it over, built any momentum,
took a better objective trade, took a better team fight.
They just never won a single exchange in that game from laning stage on.
Yeah, and that's a concern.
Sometimes these games can go back and forth a little bit, you lose, you go, okay.
This is like, you just got thoroughly outplayed at every level.
All the little things going right for OG, the lane phase, the team fighting, the vision
game, the catch, the Roshan, the high ground.
So a lot to try and pick up here if you're VP going into a very scary game too, but man,
it's been some time since I have seen a C team play as well as these guys are playing.
But give a prop, man, this OG squad is, they're fun to watch, they play aggressive,
they pick cool heroes, they're gelling well that good team chemistry and the individual
plays are there.
About damn time.
About 10 time we've been waiting years and years for this moment. It's finally here C team looking good in a playoff series
And well, that's just a start though game one game two is gonna be coming up soon
That was some next level shellacan coming up from OG kind of expected I would say they're good
They're very good, and we did expect you know kind of a fast game like the way they close out the game
Yeah are very quick like maybe there was like one throw in the like 20 25 minutes in they did and that day was pretty clean
Yeah, but they usually have it in the main game
But it's really like their early game is so good and always I always like scummy and Timmy you know on the clock
What did he play the roster they had good movement, you know scummy four minute ruin. He's there
He shuts down of it. He helps his boy. What more do you want? I?
Just the way they draft I feel like they're answering every single issue that so far
Barber's bro did throw at them, he did flex this tiny in the end to be played as a carry.
It's the second time today we're seeing this tiny as a carry and...
I call Cap.
I'm not being a good carry.
I'm not convinced by this.
Like they could have put it mid and then also picked a new carry.
Maybe that would have been better because Abed, even though you gave him this later pick,
he didn't really do that much.
It was also really hard for him to play.
Like if his roll doesn't hit, you're going to get chained by an Ember, there's
a clockwork you hate to zero, then there's Natsumi Boy on his gyro, one missed
roll and you're gone and even the early runes we saw it it's just not an easy game
and then Bing Bong on the off lane he had a really good showing yesterday but
today as like similar story it's a gyro clock against Timber Muir that doesn't
enjoy that lane either what do you know not Bing Bonging hard enough I feel like
he only the cops yeah I'm like he needs to have a good it's a difficult
matchup it is like they picked it on 8th immediate for response with gyro
copter then clockwork out of the phase as well very difficult for him
like he gets caught he's gonna die straight away like you saw them running doom as wall
clockwork he hooks shots in very easy type of line up to execute I would say for OG and
very aggressive I like that at Tizumi we did mention it immediately he is the one who's
playing super aggressive carry it fits his play style and suddenly he's involved in
like 20 kills out of 25 in one point of the game pretty nuts to think about.
Yeah if you're VP you need to be ready like when you play against OG you know what they're
gonna do they're gonna be aggressive they're gonna do all the things we just mentioned
They're gonna play fast, they're gonna have good lanes, but like you have this chan and they didn't really get the mid game teamfights going like no
If I'm chan this game, I'm just freaking sad like my mate is getting owned my often a guy is getting owned
I have some summons against gyro he goes
And they're all dead. I'll just keep jungling so my creeps don't die. I have a hero to play with yeah
It's one of the sadder chan chan games
It's not nice like for VP2 like they're coming off like this very devastating loss yesterday
Like I haven't seen this before and I don't want to sugarcoat it like that was
not good. So like understanding that okay you go into this next game I hope they
can reset again. You know Bulba he's been in this position many times before
they gotta take the L, they gotta bring back the Storm, make it better when in
doubt break the glass. They haven't used it yet, a little bit surprised. That's
true. I mean we've seen we've seen carry Storms this can be flexed to two
different roles. If it's coming it's of it. It has to be only. It has to
be. Yeah. Especially after what I saw yesterday from Timmado I don't want
to give him some volatile guy. Maybe that's why they gave him the
Tiny. No, he has high armor. You can't really get those very resistance.
Exactly. The hero still dies. I haven't been in press. There was one big moment in the triangle where
Scammyboy gets the hookshot in and then they just burst him from 100 to 0.
You're not going to be able to stop him like very nicely placed Cogs.
He's just getting bounced back. He knows that he can't kill the Cogs and retreats,
so he stands his ground trying to take a fight but loses the fight.
There is one thing I'm still a bit surprised about when teams have Ursprit.
You need to be really careful like going to the enemy wisdom shrine.
We saw it in this game, like this is prime time for like Earthsward.
He comes over, he gets the magnetized, I don't know if we ended up doing the math,
but this hero, if it's like a prolonged fight, it's like over 1k damage, easily.
Maybe 1500. So even though they did win, there's like things you still need to like
take into the next game, you know, like here you're up 5k, 4k gold,
you want to keep that to yourself. What are you looking at?
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Read the other ones these be squirrel
Robin hoodwink
Oh, I think it's V.
Or V.
Her name is just Hoodwink.
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Robin Hoodwink.
Lock that shit in.
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Perhaps it's Clinkz.
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Squirrel.
Squirrel.
Interesting.
Ice runcheon.
Can I lock an ice runcheon?
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What?
Yeah, Hoodwink's name is actually just Hoodwink on this one. Hoodwink.
Now most go to- characters do have real names based off their Warcraft 3 associates.
Yes, this one's too new or what?
Hoodwink was too new.
They didn't have- actually she was named, you know, in the Toma Khan, the Cursewood,
but you'll learn more about that from Tails from the Lorekeeper.
Can't wait for that one.
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can be heard. Whoever's writing these, all right.
What the froge?
C, bushwhack ends and the hero is no longer stunned. Or D, the tree you bushwhacked.
E is a non-rubble out.
than not out of the tree.
You fall out.
You fall out.
No.
That's one of the easy ones, Kezu and the Spinal Analyst.
Can you read the options again, please, sir?
Hey, Hoodwind cries, B, Timbersaw's laughter can be heard, C, Bushwack ends and the hero
is no longer stunned, or D, the tree you Bushwacked is invulnerable.
Give me the D.
Locking in the D?
Lock in the D.
What if I lock in the C?
That's a bit more straightforward.
As a mechanics guy you would probably go with this one.
I'm going to lock in C. C.
Alright, let's go with C.
Okay, Jay, you've got five more seconds.
Where you go with Lacoste, who just wants to make another dick joke?
Or will you go with the actual analyst?
And the answer is who would have guessed it is C. Bushwack A.
That's crazy.
And the hero is no longer stunned.
You're welcome.
What are some good combos against Woodwig?
Primal Beast is one, right?
He charges right through.
Marse.
Timber, Primal, Marse.
Yeah.
Very good, very good.
Falling blade.
And you'll see more about hoodwink, primal beast,
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All right, next one.
Which of the following items was not
a cosmetic ability for frostivus 2024?
There's eights this that time of year.
There's an A, the pile of snowballs.
B, the summon penguin.
C, the festive fireworks.
Or D, the snow globe summoning.
Now these are still around today.
In fact, they might be the first one now.
I'm a bitch one.
The pile of snowballs. Yeah, yeah, you could have the penguins. What's the sea?
See it was festive fireworks. Yeah, they were all in. Yeah, we got a lock in the D lock lock lock that's it in
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Yeah, I focused on the gameplay rather than you know all these randoms.
No, I don't use it about two days ago. I leaned against this offline dueling idiotic
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The only reason I knew this answer. Did you win? Yeah, I beat their ass. Hell yeah.
Well, if you answered D for snow globe summoning then you have also beaten them.
Well done. Snow globe summoning was the one that was not actually real.
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2013 this is gonna be for you. I didn't play I didn't play those other a
Jingle drums of endurance be the wraith knight see Roshan is coming to town or D the knight of
the three Queens of pain
I
Did I don't know give me give me the answers again
One more time jingle drums of endurance Wraith night Roshan is coming to town or the night of the three
Queens of pain you'll be all right. They're equally made up all of them
Whoever did this one did a pretty good job. Yeah. Yeah
No, they mastered good cuz I didn't play the order at this time. So I have no idea
Oh boy, if I had to guess I would say B sounds like the most
Yeah, I was more like professional aspect of Dota rather than you know the names of
I'm cussing you actually don't know this. I don't actually I think I think Russia and I think Russia
That's actually I would have said the I played heroes of New York at this time. Wow. Wow. That's crazy
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Oh, gee was very dominant in the game. We just watched yeah
I was mostly impressed by the gyro copter. The gyro was so good against timber
He abused his afterburner facet he ran down his opponents constantly and he got a gold lead and then he just kept keeping it
I really like playing gyro myself in the laning stage because you can play really really aggressive as a carry
And it's a way to
destabilize the game for your team because you can punish the off laner and when term is playing behind he actually just
Kind of looks squishy for a lot of the game
So I just felt like at that laning stage by the gyro the instant response to the timber picked looked great
Yeah, oh gee word they were just better in the last game like it sure it is also about the picks
Of course like parts just mentioned with you know your lanes go well you're ahead you can play from that
But their moves were better like I feel like they were just always a few seconds faster than VP
It looked like they were always debating should we do it should we defend can we can we not whereas oh gee?
I just feel like it looks a lot more fluid like what they were doing was quick and the sizes
Yeah, and that's not just based on the heroes, right?
That it's not...
Yeah.
...get good type of stuff.
I mean, it sounds pretty mean, Lacoste, but are we in that territory?
Yeah, we might be.
I think Virtus.
Pro is a type of a team that can just be dismantled with good laning stage.
And this is not a comeback team.
This is also a relatively new team, so maybe they still need to work on some of these
aspects.
But overall, they need to be able to have stronger lanes, some of the early
Movements that they need to do like five six minutes into the game
It needs to be slightly more crisp with the rotations and everything from the supports
They need to have like a clear vision what needs to be done and this is like they didn't have that in this first game
Yeah, I would really if I'm VP I would focus on my support duo versus OG because we talked about before this series as well
Your pageant Abed are really crucial for these two teams
Chen is a hero that does not like to go into the mid lane this hero wants to sit in the safe lane push the safe
tower, get your creeps, get your levels, but to me it's really about this mid lane and this matchup,
so look for like a dark willow or maybe you know a warlock that you can play through then in this
play-flame or a CEM that goes mid together because runes in this early game is what this entire
game will boil down to. Well we are in the draft, let's see if Virtus.pro can set themselves up
for a success. We got OG on the radiant side this time around, Virtus.pro on the dire side,
a couple of usual suspects already removed from the pool including the Shadow Demon,
there as the final ban for Virtus Pro making OG go for their first pick
and they have already spent almost a minute in their bonus time in this ban phase which is unusual
did they start with a penalty or was it really like one minute of reserve time like 58 seconds
so that's a lot on your first ban stage like it's not that complicated i have not
Been told anything about a penalty?
What if your opponents just like did some weird bans in the first phase and was like completely out of nowhere?
J'Kyro, Windraker, Slaughter is pretty standard though.
Yeah, I mean it is a new pick order so like maybe that threw them off like you have the double band and they double band and you do your last band
But even that's I mean, you maybe ask them later if they win.
Well, they certainly don't want to lose so
Close this one out here. Don't get eliminated
Yeah, top six here at Dreamlink is the goal, Virtus.pro.
They will need to force out that third game to the series.
He's trying, he was like, wrap it up, pick the hero.
Yeah, it's like, that's gotta go, guys, you know.
Now, but the only go for the DK, Yopash has played this to a very, very high success.
Of course, the hero received some nerves, but he plays it well in the mid lane.
He riles up the two supports, they go together, take over the map, and I would
say it still can be flexed.
I like Ringmaster in general. I like it against Dragonite a lot.
What Dragonite wants to do, blank stun one guy and then right-click him.
He nullifies what Dragonite wants to do. You have the box, you have the AoE ability.
Dragonite is very tanky, percentage base damage from the dagger.
Coming out from Ringmaster is also very strong, up to 5% once it's maxed out.
Hang her up. Shevers the oven, the warmup, you think?
I will check it. I also did get confirmation that there was no draft penalty at play.
So they literally just took that long.
Interesting.
Think about it.
I like this band now more.
Like there was Abaddon Band in the previous game
when they already had Doom.
Yeah, that was strange.
But against Dragonite, it can work really well.
What Dragonite wants to do is like be tanky, blow up
a guy against Abaddon.
It is not doable.
This is not something you can do.
Also having his innate ability, like the Withering
Mist.
Yeah, Withering Mist.
Yeah, that's a really good one against Dragonite.
from actually picking up Satanic in most of the situations as well, like if you go, like if this dragon is going to be going for Mask of Madness,
you're not going to be life stealing as much, just overall very good match I would say against DK.
I also like that VP did go for the Ringmaster that you already mentioned, Hellscream is very very good on this hero,
so I wonder how VP want to go like out of the face, maybe they could look for a hero that can like follow the DK,
or like if he goes mid and you know I can put this guy there.
I'm not down for Viper. I think the hero is very underrated.
I think we're seeing some resurgence of Viper right now in meta.
But this is the hero that can be played at three different roles, especially if you have a position 4 hero
that can lane with Viper, some Tuss and melee position 4s.
But for now, it's just going to be Primal Beast.
It could maybe still come out. I was also thinking maybe the SF at first.
I would like the Viper even more that you just talked about.
This offlaner in my mind outside of maybe Tidehunter is still one of the best ones.
Yeah, it's a nice tier.
Primal is so good.
You can cut the lane, you lane well overall, you have good timings, you can rush Blink into
the shard, BKB, a lot of the supports they love you, Stax are still incredibly good,
didn't get nerfed, so VP should be pretty happy with this one.
And Mr. Bing Bong, he likes to do well on the lane, walk around, get some kills.
This hero, they can do all of that.
You think it's good enough, one behind though?
Sometimes I feel like Primal beast when he gets behind struggles to like, be
Effective free BKB timing stacks you hope stacks it's just your position for he needs to stack for him
We saw in the previous series when exit says did play it. Yeah, he was playing against him and Ursa
Lowest network core 10 minutes in of course you can't play against that lane
He tried a creep skip Maiden's gonna be following him. Yeah, this is something that clockwork does extremely well
He doesn't allow you to play against primal beast and the Marana plus clockwork
We still don't know where this Marana is gonna be going. This could be Navy Corps Marana
We've been yapping about it that it could potentially come out
There's been good amount of Marana's in pubs top since the one who's playing it from the mid lane with the agatom sector eblade build
But yet to see it
I just feel like if you're Marana mid though and you're trying to lick it in the eblade obviously very good
But if you're ganking side lanes
It requires very specific heroes angles that you're gonna have to hit and if you don't miss those arrows
These are very good setup heroes for Marana. At least for now
They are but in which case it looks good, but I'm just trying to say why we probably haven't seen it as much
Yeah expected because it probably requires very specific heroes even if it's a position 5
She still has two heroes that she can play off easily a dragon I blink
Dragon tail stun clockwork as well trap him inside of the cogs with the arrow like big cogs are not as good anymore
I would say because you are playing like it's not that easy to land the arrow compared to the smaller cogs
I must say I love the clock in Game 1 and I love it here again, just against the Primal
Bees. It's kind of a gigapick and you guys talked about it. It could be a Timothy Murano,
he can play it plus 4.
Yeah, it's his most played here.
Yeah, actually most played.
He's good and you've got the setup, you can play with your clock, you have like
a 1 plus 1 kill combo, you've got the DK with the Murano as well. So VP, they
do go for the Tusk and most likely you've got the drinking buddies with the Gyro,
which it's good, and you've got the drinking buddies for Primal, which is also good,
but I will say Tusk Gyro into these heroes is not that easy.
Like, Clock is annoying, he can push you back, DK will always get the bling stun into Arrow,
and we saw Collapse play Mars yesterday, he owned.
Like, during the BKB of Gyro, you can either pop the arena so he doesn't hit,
you can go for the Crimson after as well, and it's really hard for you to go through the teamfighting,
and now they take out the Viper that you mentioned.
I would prefer if Virtus.pro picked that Viper, like they had a chance to pick it.
I still think that this Tusk I can understand like I did say it a couple of days ago that this is like one of my favorite supports
You at least it was in the previous patch because you have double save
I think double save is just too good right now and gives you teamfight gives you everything
But I would prefer if one of those picks was Viper
Because a lot of their damage is magical and we've seen
Vipers as well from different roles like what you're buying into if you're playing into physical damage
You buy into crimson then you have physical and magical combined and then you start to scale
Just be very annoying especially against the heroes who rely when having like attacks
Yeah, is dragonite what he's all about now. I'm with you. I hope that they the one thing they do gets from this is that most likely
Abed gets the last pick from the mid lane
But he's gonna really have to use it because I also would have preferred the viper to come out
And I will say I don't really want to see the primal in the mid lane
I think playing mid primal into like a DK a clockwork that's gonna be on the runes. It's not that good for you
I will prefer him to be off lane sure maybe you can creep skip or whatever
But I give the last pick to Abed allow him to like have a good lane and play through the sideline
So you have a tough gyro that will do well in a primal ring which against most matchups you'll be at least okay
The last heroes we're looking for is what, Kerry for Virtus.pro, OG's last flex potential
there.
I'm sorry, VP has Jiro, I'm sorry.
Yeah, VP probably want Abbott's mid hero.
Yeah.
I mean, OG can, they have option of mid or carry if they want.
I mean, DK is decent in the safe lane.
Yeah, some flex potential there too.
It's over a last pick VP so they can make their decision and we'll be the DK mid and
Weaver will be the hero for Natsumi.
They just continue to go for carries that aren't extremely hard carries which is good
because you can justify the lane usage a little bit more.
They're definitely playing a little bit more to get ahead consistently.
It's a fun place to all the wash.
You don't care too much about charge.
You don't care about carry to carry matchup.
And just easily run away from Jiro, choose which lights you want to be taking.
against catching this ringmaster in the back lines.
I think eventually in this one you are going to be getting the Lincoln Seer.
You're playing against the Primal Beast grab, so eventually you need to get it.
It's just going to be hard to catch.
He's going to be dodging flak cannon shots accidentally, just by using two Kuchin fights,
throwing bugs on Primal.
That guy does not have a good agility game.
He can't attack half the time.
Like the minus armor pairing from the Weaver with the Dragonite,
it's just going to be slightly synergistic.
It just feels like they have a lot of their pieces together.
It's a very Giga Weaver game.
Like, he has the Clock 5 in his lane,
and Ringmaster and Primal,
neither of them like Clock,
neither of them like Weaver.
Now, you combine them
and it can make for a lot of chaos.
And you have really good teamfights.
I'm looking at, like, this mid-pick for Abed,
and I at least can find something
that really makes you feel like,
oh, damn, like, that's the one.
This is it. This is the shit.
It has to come out, you know?
Yeah, when in doubt.
I mean, disable, jump, magic damage, he doesn't have to worry about the Mars arena.
It was that calm before the storm a moment, you know?
He actually picked it.
In terms of lockdown, if you get locked down the first time, then it's a problem.
Sure, you're playing with the two standing supports.
So I assume Mars is in this one.
Niko's gonna be getting the under fasted, the blood sports fasted.
You know, they can't see inside of the arena.
but yeah this type of lineup I don't think many other teams would pick it I
think this is something that we've been saying ever since this OG squad has
formed sometimes it looks wonky it feels like they don't have enough like it's a
very single target oriented other than arena yeah but they make these type of
lineups work now for sure a VP to me they went a bit more for like well the
comfort in my opinion over like I mean they still have draft integrity
but I don't really love their matchups that much like I wouldn't
want to play Storm, DK is going to do well mid, Klopp can be annoying, you can get saved
by the other guys but then maybe you're just ready with the spear, like out of the box or
out of the snowball. And I think this is a crazy good Weaver game unless Abed has a
super good timing, which I feel like it's not that easy for him to get so...
The ports are very good. On side of Weaver's Pro, this is where they can actually play
around the mid lane, 5, 6, 7 minute thing, try to get that level 6 on Storm. So
I think this game is not going to be as one-sided as we've seen.
I think they did make some adjustments to the draft, but still favoring OG.
And they got the perfect picks for the game. They got the marzerining at Sejaro,
while also making sure that the Marana is going to be good in lane,
because they used land of spear into an arrow and that guy is going to die.
So everything fits.
Everything fits for OG.
But I think Virtuo got something to say about this game.
At least they're going to put it all on the line to force out that third game to the series.
Let's see who's going to come out on top and first let's see some fucking fun though.
Backs against the wall!
Virtus Bro!
That's when the questions begin to creep in.
Are we really a playoff team?
But when in doubt, storm it out, Avery.
Bobo will go back to his ace of the sleep.
I'll get a first blood here on Niko just ran in him got caught off guard or run down
Where is pro already doing better than last?
That's true. They have a net worth leap
Didn't have that at all in game one
The trap looks pretty solid
Yeah, it's kind of got a little bit of everything. Maybe you believe in the last pick store
Maybe you don't but can be a good storm game to help carry the gyro because the gyro is up against them
some tough picks in terms of that Mars. DK's pretty tanky and then there's two forms of
Indiz between the Murana Moonlight Shadow plus this Couching Weaver that can kind of dog out
some of the flak. I always like the Murana against the Gyro. I think it's one of the
better supports against this hero. You get really farmed, you can build auras. You can
sometimes just arrow them in the middle of the fight, chain stun them forever, and
Moonlight Shadow goes a long way towards initiating on this hero or keeping your supports
alive against the flak. So I like the Murana pick here.
Was it a pub tomorrow sharing his music?
No, okay
Do you agree with Kezu is this a giga
Weaver game
Yeah on paper. I feel like I said that about the last few weaver games. We've cast it and the hero looked pretty rough
So maybe the hero just isn't as strong as people think I do think this is another great weaver pick
I have some faith in the big for sure. I just don't want to see another one of these games where
It's weaver in a good game and he goes this hurricane pike manta
Lincoln's nonsense. You just don't do any damage
That's also not doing anything getting damage on him. I mean, why even go through? What is the upside?
Yeah, you're not even gonna do that much. It's a hundred man
You don't have basically one more spell for the lane on this final
Well, that is more benefit of her.
Oh! Oh! Easy. Stick charge.
I'm gonna pull the wave here, though. Not confident to play the lane straight up. Very tough lane for the primal.
Can't really blame him here. You want to get that equal green back as quickly as possible, but yeah, me's got other ideas.
Yeah, he's one step ahead of that.
They do have double range though, it is going to kind of push in, no matter what, but not
the worst situation for Saber-Lite.
Just need to get the lane back so the clock cannot control you and set kills off of this
weaver.
Always look for a bit of stacking too, if it really comes down to it.
Yeah, we don't want to see another Saber-Lite game where he's just shut out.
I feel like Virtus Pro...
I don't know, I'm not gonna say he's like the key player or anything, but...
It does kinda feel like, uh, on their wins, Saberlight is cooking.
On their losses, he is completely absent.
Very volatile player.
He's not a really strong hero, for the meta so far.
And what the games I've seen, the primals are really good.
So no excuses in that department, just a matter of can you find the openings,
can you get the farm online and have impact in the teamfights?
Even if you're poor out of the laning phase,
Primal can always get a lot done off of the spell power alone.
Oh, billy bits, I like this game.
No, it remains.
I do think.
All it starts for Virtus.Pro here.
Pre-BKB, it is an annoying to play Primal in this game, though.
You've got cogs.
You've got arena.
There are fast stuns like Dragon Tail.
You can't get the Weaver Bugs off of you if you're trampling.
For sure.
But once you get BKB.
sure. Very different story. Well, that's why it's so important for him to actually
have a strong laning phase because otherwise that BKB can really delay. Wouldn't be surprised
to see if OG try and go for the Marana Ganks mid on the storm before he can get to six
at some point. Just easy DK stun into Aero, clean him up. That is a play that you need
to think about and have TP support ready of their own, particularly on the 4 minute water
room, 6 minute power room, and when the DK form comes out, I'm kind of guaranteed that's
done. That combo can be deadly for Abbot this game.
Look at his leap forced out here
No damage done fighting over the Lotus
Saber light
Tramples away big minus armor on the screen taking so much damage with these bugs
Down to minus 10 or 11 there that hurts
Very strong lane for OG. This is their strongest lane in this game other than the mid lane which is
pre-farm lane for Yovaz but he's not really shutting off it down. Strong start for Tamato on the gyro though.
We saw what this gyro could do in that game one. Not gonna be in his hands. One of his signature heroes here.
He's off to the races. Very good CS. Got the early kill.
What curse did I get?
Here's the 4 minute water rune day.
Maybe you look for some action here against the storm.
You can deny it out or just stun Aero on it, but you can fly already ahead of the gameplay.
Keeps forcing these leaps out.
Not fun for Tims.
He's gonna have to go base.
Do you think a skate-backed Primal while he's trampling is good?
It's okay, I mean it's not bad. I mean he can't be targeted, he's actually gets extra movement speed.
You're probably getting out of the prepack.
I'm health only is good, not too many attacks, some of the Shikuchi bit of damage, but they
will respect the fact that Saberlight could come in with this full combo.
I really want to see not too many go a different Weaver build than the other ones we saw.
There's one player who's gonna get more aggressive with this hero to me it is him. You don't like the male shield
That bill was okay, I just don't like triple defensive item
Builds end up in the hurricane pike Lincoln's man. You just don't do any damage
It's like that game we watched it tomorrow. You just want three defensive items and he was dying anyway
I mean, I want to see Deso. You have a minus armor length, right? You got Dragonite.
I like the Deso.
Deso, Daedalus Divine. Walk it in.
Okay. That's a man's build right there.
Yeah. That's a man's hero.
20 seconds till power in.
Bringing my Mars mid with this DK.
Yeah, I like that because you might be bringing the Primal Beasts in.
True. So you gotta kinda equalize things.
One of the advantages of Primal is he can make those kinda silly plays.
But here, he's just gonna have to teleport away, it's not to me.
Kicks him out as he was cutting waves, Yopaj.
Committing to the tower here, big damage!
First Pro needs to melt!
There's the bandit, that's your one.
Did you say at Catapult Top with a big waste? They are getting some trade off here.
Opted to just play ultra safe, not lose the storm to this game, wasted the Mars time.
Oh, that is not where you want to be. Fly able to snowball dodge,
bit of damage, but the teleports are coming in. It's a DK teleporter. That's an expensive
TP up here, so you got to spot it. They're watching. Very good stuff. We will get that off Lane Town.
Was that worth the free? I mean I guess it's worth the free Opaash.
If it's a tier one mid ghost hop gets a kill this will help secure that wisdom shrine as well.
But you kind of got to get out of here so you give some of the XP to the Mars.
It's a D-Ward as well. Nice D-Ward in here.
Oh dear. Oh yeah. This is not an objective you can give up.
Alright they bring this storm that'll secure it.
I will secure it as long as somebody goes back and takes it at some point.
Very nice to Bob to leave it for his supports.
Very nice indeed.
Or maybe for the Primal.
You want a faster Primal level 6 here.
Both these offlaners had a very rough time in this lane phase as these carries are
super strong laners had the better lead. So the difference this game could come down to that mid.
Who made some better moves, gets those power runes, finds some bigger pickoffs here, starts snowballing
a little faster. And both these mids have some pretty good supports to play with them.
for the 8 minute power room. It's not what Dim's wanted to find. It's gotta be bottom
shield room for Abed and perhaps a kill. A kill that leads to a Galvanized Stack. Arrow
just landed off the Dragon Tail but his game back will keep him alive. Can we talk about
Oh, by the way, that changed the storms here, the galvanized stacks, you only lose two on
death rather than three.
Pretty good change.
Why did they do that?
I feel like Storm has been pretty good and has certainly snowballed a lot of galvanized
stacks.
I feel like there's going to be a way to remove them.
Trying to take their stacks?
That's really dangerous.
I agree, I don't think it's a changed storm needed, buddy.
What's formed that popular in the metanarrhy?
Ult or...
Nothing.
It's clean up this hard camp, what with.
It's awkward for OG to go in on these early kills if the...
Supports are there because the failout. You have all this single target stun chain effect.
But if the hero just gets boxed or snowballed, it all goes away.
Oh, sure. That's where the Weaver's gonna have to make his impact felt in this game as...
just pull-rise?
And save a little...
get the hell out of there. Does not wanna fight this clock at all.
Kind of a slower start for OG. I mean, they're doing fine that worth-wise, but...
they did not run this game over like we saw in Game 1.
VP holding their own.
Had a lot better heroes at fighting early.
Still trying to find some power runes for all, but that's the one piece of the puzzle
that has not been there, but they have a very barm gyro who can connect the plays and fights
in the river.
It's a lot of looking to do just that.
We'll be connecting to...
Oh, it's good to see him run up, but...
It's a dragonite.
That's a hero you actually can kill here with a sick bin.
Pull him back into the snowball.
Yopage turns it back around.
Dragon Tail's spun onto the storm suer, who might be caught inside the arena.
No!
Finally, let's boost this spear. Kills Tamato as a result, and the Dragonite doesn't go down and beck Abed.
It was underneath the sentry, and it's a simple way. Hellscream, gets up to the high ground, okay?
There's still a lucky cushion playing. Natsumi still catches up to him though, and the drinking buddies will not bail him out.
Two deaths, and they'll even force Abed to use a little bit more mana to get away.
Great TP from Natsumi. This is the early Weaver action you need in this game to turn to these tides.
If the gyro is going to come fight, you need the weaver to come fight, and perfect arena.
Niko saves the dragon knight, secures the kill and the gyro, OG very ready for that exchange.
They do not want to give power and control to this form here.
Let me see how much they're prioritizing it.
They continue to impress with their calls.
They have very good reads of who they need in certain places, and who they're ready to play.
Heal... kills Avid.
Even something like that, very fast, very efficient, just clean, VP not ready for it, that is what's going to build you a gold league in these games, just making smart plays with the right people.
Even going to heal some of the ancient stacks we saw VP trying to take away OGs earlier.
Now it's getting done to them and you cannot defend this one without that storm.
No, this is something they can actually take, whereas we saw Fertice Bro, they maybe got some of the hard camp creeps, so they didn't really get any of those ancient...
This game kind of working around behind this tier one.
Look at Perseverlite doesn't have that ward behind the tower. It does not see the TP though.
Grab on that toonie hookshot to stop the follow up.
Oh, wow.
So, Scan gives up his life, fails out non-summit.
Absolutely the right play.
Again, in the right place on the map with the right heroes, yeah, you give up the clock,
but that is not what DP wanted out of that play.
And another power room that's going to be denied from Abed because he had to make that play.
And our Cane room at that, a room that he would love to have.
Instead, goes to Yoposh.
Oh, like he's got a single power in this game.
It's got the shield ring, right?
Oh yeah, when he jumped on the clock early, 6-man-1.
Slow game for him. Not getting galvanized stacks, not getting power runes, not finding a lot of kills.
Oh, you left the tower one-headed, eh?
What are you doing with that?
Easy gold here.
A little mistake set up.
They do. That's what swings this lead OG's way.
Weaver top looking for a skirmish action.
We will outnumber if the Mars can join in on this fight.
Go after Flyce, he can get a quick pick off on him, all he can do is snowball him, not
to me.
Drinking buddies trying to pull him out but now they got the arena and that locks
in Tamato as well, they spear him back, they do not want to commit to this fight
not with the mass teleports that are coming in.
Curtis Bro just has to complete their teleports
and hope that they can get one or two kills out of it.
He'll kill Scam.
Might re-engage with the DK here.
If he used a lot, drag a tail stun,
but an escape back fails him out.
Turn around, pulverize into the wheel.
Perhaps Niko doesn't stare at him.
He managed to get the spear onto the jarocops.
They're stomping a bunch of black cannon damage.
Now it's going to rain in.
Finally gets the shot off, and that'll kill Niko double
for a tomato off of that one.
Oh gee, it's time it's their turn to kind of misread the situation. It's gonna cost them badly here
If they can actually take the wisdom shine now, they're not healthy enough
And we were still lurking around great fight for VP near the tower
It gets some value out of their ultimates and a lot of value out of the tankiness of these heroes early on
It's like 1700 HP gyro 1800 HP primal
Just too much meat to cut through
Tim's land for the big plays gets bursted down from that gyro.
You almost finished the model off, but if the Weaver can't commit to the fight, you're
not going to convert here.
Still looking for the fast plays.
DK Marauder combo is gonna connect.
Yes.
Got him on the star storm second round.
Nice little pick off there.
Power runes continuing to work for this dragon at haste rune.
Getting him in there.
This is very efficient.
The rest of the smoke, the clockwork, used mid to get a ward deep behind the safe lane tower, which hasn't died yet, but OG are clearly making a move to a lemonade edition.
They're going to catch Tommado. Bull drinking buddies does not give him that leeway against the spear.
And Tommado, well he's fast, but Yopaj has a blink dagger against the other side of him. They'll both get cleaned up.
What a stick connection, especially from Skim. The route he took off of all that was absolutely perfect.
to find the wards, the gyro,
E.P. just not expecting a second playoff of that initial smoke.
Now he heads the bottom through the gate.
He's just doing everything here.
Do they have the damage to kill Avid?
Hook, shot, arrow, off of all of that.
Okay, nicely changed on BioG.
This is what impressed me about this team.
The little synergy is so damn good right now.
Again, the recognition to bring the right people into the place every time at the exact right moment.
That is a sign of a very good team and a team that is gelling very well together.
It builds you leads.
Suddenly up to 3k here, that gyro's still very fat, but better plays being made by OG around the map right now.
map right now. Netting them a lot of gold across their cores. Pipe's gonna be done for
the Mars here shortly. Your DK starting to ramp up his damage. You have a mech on the
Marana. The Oras are gonna be there for OG in the 5 on 5 and then you start to wonder
are you gonna run out of damage as Virtus Pro? You have a lot of spread damage in this
lineup. Not a lot of single target burst as you went to drinking buddies over the
tag team for the gyro, but if this Mars gets pipe crimson up, plus some oras from the morana,
very concerned about bb taking a head on 5 on 5, and who's building oras for them, I mean
they have three cores that are all itemizing as traditional go land deal damage right click
cores.
Not gonna have a oras in this game.
Do you need oras if you got safe?
If you have enough damage, you know.
Aw, isn't that...
disgusting.
I don't know what that was.
Empiric.
And everyone's gonna get it.
Definitely gotta see more mana draws with the clarity nerf.
Scouting Roach with an arrow.
Pipe is done for OG, so they're ready to fight.
Jump just about anything in this game.
DP make the correct call to bail on that top lane, trying to protect the gyro as he
pushes towards...
Finishing up the dragon lance here?
Just get even...
Tank here in this early game.
They get a little too cocky mid though, your save's behind you, but OG have a lot of changed
the potential.
Yeah, they glyph the way it's trying to keep Tamato there a little bit longer, but still
no Power Room Fraud, but it spawns top, and it is a big one.
Ant damage into the Roshan, OG.
Yeah, they've got plenty of damage now.
Bug-Ori to make Roshan pretty easy to take, and ant damage that much easier.
They have to scan.
It's late. Can't do much about it. I mean they're gonna smoke towards it and have to jump the pit here.
Ah, but it's gonna be up to you.
Tommado, he's gonna get close.
Spots and heroes are gonna try and blow up the Murana, but Roshan is already dead and the H is picked up.
Spirit goes out, good snowball dodge.
Wheel right in the middle of this arena, catching Natsumi and Natsumi gets off the timelapse.
He doesn't lose the Aegis and now he's just gonna go hog wild, chasing after heroes.
He's going to be his first target. There goes Jarred Copton now turns back to Saberlight's
rival Beast. Good whip! Hellscream! Trying to create a little bit of separation for Saberlight
to blink away successfully. That does happen, but what also happens is four kills for OG
off in that T-Height. Great frontline from Tim. It's just pure distraction. He has
the five act of the outpost anyway. Waste the Pulverize of the Murana that bites
wide open. Weaver lives, gets time-lapse. As a result, no Aegis gets burned. The
The Mjolnir was completed for not to be with the Amp damage going into that Roche, so he's
peeking in terms of his damage in this early game, pays off in the fight, again, all the
little things adding up here for OG, they played it right, played it smart, even with
the thick dodge here, Hookshot misses, Spear misses, you land the wheel, and you still
lose the fight, type in mech, too strong here.
Yeah, you could see the primal beast like charging through, the pipe makes it so he
doesn't do any damage. And Natsumi again, time-lapse, right before death.
Oh, that's a big pick up here. You're trying to get to that primal DKB. You're getting
slow down as the DK getting past the full DKB done for Yopaj level 15 and a half.
We need more impact from the storm in this next 10 minute period. Oh dear,
just getting too much off the map. They're building the 5 on 5.
You gotta start getting some galvanized stacks or something. Here's another interesting
smoke, just two heroes, three heroes from bottom,
go after the storm spirit, escape act,
but they're gonna try and spear off it,
it doesn't last to a tree, so pop it, zip zip zip,
and away he goes, maybe supports are gonna be left behind,
hell of a scream.
Oh, sick hook shot. You can tail, yeah, fly, dragon tail, push around by the
cogs. Full support will die to that smoke. Oji's playing faster right now. All the little
connections the smoke plays, they're landing. Even gonna pick up a wisdom shrine here, we'll
lose their own. It gets scanned out so not fast enough to get everything, but man
are they snowballing this game fast. Time to take objectives. They're not that style
of games that Storm thrives in. If you don't find pick offs, then the enemy can just build
early sustain and auras. He's not the best hero jumping into a 5 man ball with mech
Typing, bringing some hero down.
A late Orcid.
And Aubed is gonna be very susceptible to this.
All he's got is Yasha Kaia, and he's looking at Shard and Chiba's next,
because they need some damage to get through this pike mech action.
Gonna catch the primal on his way to be givie again.
It is delayed by 250 gold.
Can't even get the lanes out anymore.
Gonna have damage, things are beginning to spiral.
Needs a tier 1 tier.
If your guard is for this tier 1 bottom and mid that are still standing
are just preventing you getting lanes and you can't force the split from OG, they're gonna
smoke bottom to protect it again and this will land another successful smoke.
Yeah, we saw in game one Virtus Pro just throwing themselves at the safe lane tier one tower
and trying to finish it off, it seems to be a persistent problem against OG, they
They can't get any of these objectives out of the way and still have no map control as a result.
Tim's stalking Hobbit bottom.
They're gonna get him.
The setup is just so good right now.
They use the scrawtled.
He stalks him bottom, sets up with the DK stun.
They were setting the Invis clockwork in top,
who is single-handedly pushing Gyro off the map right now.
It gets hit by a flare.
He's just going in.
Yeah, why not?
Just mess with him.
The Virtus.pro are certainly not in a position to turn around and fight even as they see
heroes on the other side of the map.
They know there's no dragonite here, but what can you do?
Very clean.
And now the BKB is done for the Primal Beast.
So the Virtus.pro, they think, okay, now we've got something to do in team fights.
Fortunately, they are 10,000 net worth behind, so...
Let out a lot to get here.
And now you need more damage.
Feels like you need that full Daedalus on the Chiro.
You go think about Lincoln's here, though.
How do you break time to just go Crimson?
My people just end the game off the aura power.
Should expect VP to smoke right now with that Primal Beacon E completion, you gotta start
looking for something.
Get this Stormroll.
Especially before next row spawns.
Try and recover some of this lead, build yourself up to that objective.
Moonlight Shadow is going to push OG towards the front lines unseen.
VP baiting Gyro on the front lines with the saves behind him.
Not a bad idea if you can execute on it.
They jump on Tamada and they can escape back.
Turn around, they actually get the grab on the Dragonite.
They're going to try and blow up Yopaj.
It doesn't work. You got off the BKB.
Now it's a little awkward as Tamada used his BKB to retreat.
They did what damage they could,
but ultimately, as soon as Yopaj popped BKB,
this fight was over.
And now it's just a question of how many Virtus.Pro heroes can get out alive.
Not going to be the two supports, does the Jarocopter get away? Nope.
Jules into Arrow. Double buyback from the supports, but their carry is already dead.
Savorite dies to Yopage. What did you buy back for?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing. OG lose. Absolutely nothing, they gain a huge amount.
And there's just nothing to fight that Dragonite on the frontline with DKB.
I mean, as you said, once you pops it and sits there and you mess up your chainsaw combo,
That felt like the fight.
That's it.
Good game.
Wow, what a combination of a series.
I think going into this, most people would have favored OG, given the way they looked at this Dream League.
Curtis Bro making it to playoffs has been, you know, still been kind of inconsistent.
Unfortunately, I think we saw them on a particular low mark here.
But, unsurprising the OG, they're the opposite, right?
It feels like they're just very consistent, very good.
They stepped up today, and they're looking like they're in prime form.
Scary team to play against, they don't really play with fear.
They just play their style, they run at you,
they make super clean moves around the map,
super fast connections, bring the right heroes to the right spot.
That's the part of the scene that impresses me,
and that makes them terrifying to play against.
It needs like elimination series, you know,
where there's a lot on the line.
Pressure starts to amp up a little bit
and they're just running at you.
They're putting you under the gun.
You have to make the right call.
And the second you slip up a little,
they make another play.
And all of a sudden this lead
that was five or six games, 11 or 12.
And suddenly there's a pipe.
Suddenly you can't take the team fight.
You run out of options really fast against the squad.
VP, they just didn't bring their AE game today,
but I think they still had a fairly successful tournament
compared to people's expectations.
Yeah, no, Joe.
Certainly not the way they wanted to go out,
But I think, as you said, achieved above expectations while OG, no doubt about it, better team today and moving forward in playoffs.
Yeah, if we thought Game 1 was quite convincing for OG, then Game 2 was giga convincing, Clarge.
Yeah, they just kind of dismantled the map consistently. They had good advantages in the draft, watch this teamfight was pretty cool too.
There's consistent fights, I'm confusing it with this, and I think watch that arrow coming from the south.
It looks like it's going to hit a couple of heroes and it ends up missing almost everybody.
Hold, there it is.
Alright, watch it go north.
It actually catches Storm and guarantees Scams kill against him, which was sick.
So they basically just were consistently out DPS outplaying their opponents.
They had great utility.
I mean, they lost the Murana at the start of the fight, but they killed everybody else.
So like, who cares?
Now, they're just like playing so...
What's the cohesive? Is that the right word?
Like, so like, nicely synced and together how they're moving.
For me, it already starts like kind of early in the game that they like, they get to go to Yopaj.
And this is kind of just how they play they have good lanes they connect to each other and also like it's not just that but there's
Individual spell casting it's really really good like it's very
Excellent how scam shines like good hook shots. They even at some point
He allows like not so me to hit the bottom tier one tower
They don't get it, but they force all these tepees they try to pull the rice and kill him
He just hooks but in the meantime VP had to use like three tepees so much time so much mana
It's just it's the little things, but they really nail them
They do it really well.
Very nice spell usage, not overlapping anything.
This is kind of, I would say, pub style that they're playing in some of these games.
Like very easy, simple to execute, Dota.
You blink stun, follow it up with an arrow, grab a kill.
But also, like if you look at their itemization, they are thinking about, oh, what do we
need?
Like we need this pipe.
So Niko, he rushes pipe from the off lane knowing that it's going to mitigate
most of the damage from Storm from Primal Beast, making sure that their timing that
They do have all this advantage that has been building up slowly at the early stages of the game
They're using that to get Roshan to get Tormentor as well, but yeah, I mean the drafts. I don't think I've said it
I've said it
I don't think many other teams are willing to pick heroes like OG does but they make it work
And this is what makes them a scary team like on paper. It doesn't seem like this is oh, wow
This is the strongest-looking line on me, but they make it work
Can I eat any of them? You can eat that piece that ugly piece you made
I'll eat this one. It looks pretty.
I'm good. I just had lunch slash dinner. I'm full.
If I can eat 25 cookies, you can have four. Okay, come on.
I had like four kinder blenders as well. That's a lot.
Small ones.
I think they're cooking a little bit extra in the tray, but these ones look a little bit less.
No, they're perfect. They're really good.
I thought OG was also really good. I think they cooked.
It's for me it feels like this game was relatively hard to judge because when we saw them against thunder
I didn't think they were bad, but obviously they did lose O2 and
Now I'm debating in my head like did OG just level up that much from that series or
Was Virtus.pro just that much of a weaker opponent for them versus tundra? Yeah, I think it's both
I'm sure that OG leveled up like it's a new patch you slide you kind of lose to tundra
There's a lot to learn from the series but VP as well out of all the opponents they could have no flame to them
I do think they're like on the weak side, but with that said they definitely overperformed this tournament without a doubt people were expecting them
Yeah, yeah, like people are expecting them to be crappy
They managed to make it to playoffs which is very commendable for them and their last this series was like, okay
Oh, gee just look better the previous series
Maybe hurt the morale a little bit or hurt their confidence, but they should still be happy what they accomplished at this tournament 100%
I'm eating sorry. Yeah, I'm just nodding my head after you guys enjoying enjoy your cookies, but yeah for this pro
Didn't have too many expectations coming up from them
They didn't know how to rate them, but they did much better than I expected and probably everybody else and they were right
17th by all the teams like combined upper again. It's a lot of teams that we did have here
So pretty good results for them coming as in new squad want to see more from them
But there's still a lot of issues that they need to fix which are clearly visible. Yeah
We can give me can we before I look already a little bit of the bracket
Is that a possible thing is I just want to see the road
mm-hmm because I
Feel like the og that we saw today
Can go very deep
Now we already know their next opponent. Uh-huh
He vision how do their styles match up because I felt like he vision isn't as strong as we recently thought
They were in my head than anyways, and I think OG is I actually think they could definitely have that
No party are of course, they're very good
But they're to me like more on the slower side whereas
OG could be one of the teams like even if you rate them like not as high skill wise when you look like
Stylistically the fast teams can absolutely beat the slower team
So I wouldn't give OG like that big of a disadvantage. No
And I am gonna talk to Tim's I believe hello good afternoon. How you doing? Congratulations
Hello, thank you.
I've got a very random question first.
Now during the draft of game 2, during the first banning phase, you guys took like one
minute for your first three bans.
Do you remember why that was?
I think we're talking about which hero to give the opponent, like the first 3 ban, then we just decided to just give like their, what's that, the Primal Grease, we don't ban Primal, then yeah we just agreed to pick luck against Primal, that's why.
Okay, well I played out fantastically, fantastic Marana as well, I do want to talk about support
Seras with you a little bit, with the patch in mind, Marana back on the menu, is she that
good right now, this patch?
Will we see her a lot more?
Yeah, I think that Marana right now is really good because of the level 20 talent, then
you buy Aghanim, the damage is so high, and it's very stable hero in the laning
face you can always cheat the leaning like a rowing range grip then you just
keep stalking for your course and are there any other position for heroes you
are hoping you get a chance to play with this new patch like any changes you
saw that makes you excited for some heroes you haven't maybe played
professionally in a little while for now not really we're focused on our
our heroes right now then we are just slowly like catching up on the meta.
And the series you played against Thundra not too long ago, the O2 series you had, it
was still with some relatively close fights there as well.
How much and what could you say did you learn from that series that you were able
to level up with coming into today?
I would say our playstyle and Tundra playstyle is very much opposite
because they are a very defensive player.
Then for us, I think we just need to be more disciplined.
We need to be cautious on diving them
because we always get punished by Tundra.
Player Spooky didn't have that problem for VP.
You guys smashed it in this series.
I do also want to know your favorite changes in your overall opinion of this patch, like
how do you feel?
Is it a good one?
Are you happy with it?
Right now we are kind of happy on the patch, especially the 7 minute, the wisdom placement
because we have a good strategy around it.
I love that.
I also of course would love to ask you some questions.
That's right, hi Thames. Happy to see you guys doing well.
I got a couple questions about your guys' movement.
I really like your guys' early game and mid game.
Is that like a team effort?
Like does everyone make the calls of how you should move the map?
Or is that one person doing it more than the other?
I would say it's a team effort because for example, we have a healer's
then when the healer's command that they will kill here
then the other players will need to do this, like push this wave like this
then don't make it obvious the killing on the heroes.
Can you tell me something about the 343, like what have you guys or what has he helped you guys with lately?
Because I feel like every coach has a specific style, like one thing they focus on more than something else.
I'd just like to learn a little bit more about him.
I think Play for Taste is really good about the map movement.
Like he talks more about the objective and item timings and the drafting as well.
Okay, that sounds great.
And about the new drafting style, because first pick and second pick was changed, who do you
feel like that benefits?
Like which side is stronger?
Yeah, that second pick is actually really OP right now because actually I don't know
Because Adam said he's OP.
Alright man, maybe I baited you into a question.
Alright let's see, what do we have?
Yeah, I have one more cause you know, do you remember in this game, you guys had a team-side in the river, like 18 minutes top rune.
You threw an arrow, it ended up hitting Abed on like the way tail end.
Did you mean to hit him or was that like a, you know, a lucky one?
Yeah, I don't really see that I hit him.
Sometimes I just throw Aro for vision then just lucky Aro sometimes.
Well, sometimes luck should be on your side. Thank you, Tims.
Don't worry, you could have just said Tims, it's like this was your plan all along.
You know, you saw me, you knew it was going to hit. Totally fine to do that.
It was a pleasure watching your Murata at work. I hope we get to see it many more times.
Good luck on your continuation in the lower bracket.
bracket of course actually congratulations with top six but also with
not having to play qualifiers for the next dream league and for ESL one
Birmingham as top six guarantees you though so that's a big one so go
celebrate that and we'll see you against more okay thank you bye bye thank
you okay and i believe there was actually more to this game Kessu that
you wanted to still highlight uh yeah there's a i don't know if it's two or
three class but we're gonna roll them i'm gonna talk about them because uh
There's some important stuff. Like if I'm VP in this game or if I'm gonna look over these replays,
there's a few things that I don't think it's really like that okay. So you have a last pick storm
and your Gyro at this stage, he's like 4000 net worth. Like if you take a fight here,
it's not actually bad for VP. We need to remember that DK was not the last pick.
Like why did you pick storm? If he doesn't help you, shut down what DK wants to do,
which is to win the mid lane, take the tier one mid tower, because if he does the map
opens up so much for this hero. So this is just strategically something that I highly disagree with from VP.
And here I just want to show that OG's movement is so nice.
Like, before this, at the start of the smoke, they killed mid, then Scam placed this ward that was there behind the tower.
So while two guys are going mid, he stays in the smoke, sets up the next move, and now they kill those two heroes.
This is like all the same clip. They kill two heroes top, they kill the tier one tower.
In the meantime, he now goes bottom, uses the cogs to push him into Yopash with the arrow.
Like these are just the things that the proper teams do, that like really give them, you know,
not just a smally, but it's just like the snowball. And if they don't do this, maybe that game would
be totally different, but this is what the good teams do. And are you a good team? They rolled over
for, they rolled over Virtus.Pro with this one. It was, it was painful. And actually maybe
extra painful for Virtus.Pro now that they know that they're also going to those qualifiers.
And it doesn't matter where you end up in qualifiers, they're going to be very stacked.
So, that is Spooky Town for that, and really, we have a little bit of time for our next series,
but that's okay, because we got things planned, and we are going to take a little bit of a break,
but you're going to see some Dota action after the break, so make sure you stick around.
We'll be right back with actually more Dota 2, promise.
It's a bad bloody time.
The Missile Joe sent a whisper in my ear
Get on the party train
You've been so good this year
And this girl and boy must have some fun
Next time it's Christmas, oh yeah
Holiday's begun
And I was born
Feel full of Christmas songs
Scream upon the railroad track
And get up and make some noise
Cause there's no turning back
It's the beginning of a whole new year
Next stop is Christmas, oh yeah
Oh Jesus, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
For the Christmas tree, this tree.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This room inside for everybody.
Everybody.
Underneath them, there's still
some snow in my air.
Get on the party train.
You've been so good this year.
And when the whistle blows, I know
your needs
next stop is Christmas
oh yeah
holiday to here
next stop is Christmas
oh yeah
holiday to here
next stop is Christmas
oh yeah yeah
holiday to here
We live in a high life, no need for trouble or strife, cocktail parties, Broadway lights,
On the numb as we see the sights
Monday morning we catch a fling
Down the coast to Santa Pay
Wherever we are, it's never the same
Where there's fun and dance, we will play
We live in a high life
No need for trouble or strife
Cocktail party in Broadway lights
On and on as we see the stars
Friday night we hit the town
Eat caviar and drink champagne
A life of luxury fit for the crown
A life for life that we can't contain
But whatever the party wherever we land Being with you makes me feel grand
Rags or riches, I just don't care
The love that we share is beyond compare
Help me God, we live in a high life
No need for trouble or strife
God tell party is Broadway lights
On and on as we see the sights
On and on as we see the sights
Sometimes I'm wrong, usually right, the reason we get along, we meet almost every night.
I take it black
I like it light
Opposites do the tries
I make love most every night
Suffocating like a man in his wife
Sometimes disagree
You know the truth, my dear, this blue shirt's clear
Come on, make love to me
Whether I'm wrong
Whether I'm right
The heart is weak, dear
We make love most every night
Back in the blind, bad man and wife
Sometimes I'll disagree
And I'll assume my dear, the resolution's clear
Come on, make love to me
Don't see eye to eye
We ain't never fightin'
And yes, we'll reason why
We make love more suddenly
Not me!
Who plays Turbo?
I've never played a Turbo game in my life.
Not a single one of us has played Turbo.
I played Turbo like 10 days ago.
I played 2 games before we came here.
Oh, that's good. So you're the expert.
Sure.
It goes really fast.
We need to kill.
It goes really fast.
Chew all your items, spend all your gold,
also load the spawns like every one and a half minutes.
It's like Turbo on crack.
Wait.
It's go to 2 on crack.
They changed all the timings?
Like the loadest pool is earlier.
I don't know about the wisdom shrine,
but loadest pool is every one and a half minutes.
So it's like cut in half.
It's wisdom shrine three and a half probably yeah, I would guess so
We got a brawl. We got a brawl just pick pledge
Yeah, so many big pledge
I'm taking a Largo. Yeah, didn't I give you a water bottle you did. Yeah, well on camera. There's one over there
I think yeah, that's mine. Yeah remove. Thank you
Hey castors, how are your setups for playing Dota terrible terrible? Yeah, that's why we don't even work
I played I played a game this morning. I have a
brace on my hand and it makes it so that every single time I go for like one
two three I hit the control button a lot it really screws things up so basically
I'm saying that I'm not gonna play very good. Yeah already making excuses before
the game that's kind of lame. If I get punched, that's like somebody messed up with my hot
nothing works so you guys are good I don't even have my own settings. Well
until we find a game I'm playing mini games I'm currently playing Batracer.
I'm so I'm playing Flappy Skyrath.
You know, this is funny because
Avery literally told me the other day that he doesn't like other modes
and they doesn't want to have fun.
He just wants to be a regular Dota.
He's been forced into it. Now he's forced.
Yeah, Kevin's a ability draft, a fishy and auto.
Yes, I don't play that often.
Then then we party queue and he sneaks it in there.
You know, he's in the ability draft.
And next thing you know, you get a game and what the hell is this?
Yeah, there's a couple people that have told me they don't want an ability draft and so when the stars align, when there's a bunch of like ambivalent people like Hapua can sneak it in, then I'll do it.
But the thing is, is it more fun?
More fun?
Or is it like giga sweaty, like the ability draft?
It can be very sweaty.
Oh my god, you're dog shit.
Yo, yo, let's put you on the spot, Avery, come on.
I don't play minigames.
Yeah, I can play.
The problem is the ability draft players are still Dota players inherently, so they're sweatlords.
Okay, through you.
Yes, okay, so you're going you're thinking you're gonna play this like this fun little game like oh look
I'm gonna do this funny little combo ha ha and then somebody's out there like oh
Look at up the stats on all the abilities. Oh, you love teleport. He said ask your ability
I'm gonna love that
I'm gonna have a one-shot kill combo that nobody can play against ha ha look how strong I am
Well, the other the other problem is also that you as a player can
accidentally draft a bad hero and regular dota whatever hero you pick is like
still okay but I'm sure that you could draft an ability draft skill build that's
like 20% win rate like accidentally because it's just inexperience. That game mode is
like playing with nine Kevin Godecks and I can't handle it. That's a rough one. I can see that way. No, that is, there's no. You had to take a
drink he's stressing you. It's usually like five and then the other four players
on your team are like normal people that aren't nerdy and you get stomped
Yeah, no, they're not Kevin Godox their anime protagonist one of these they're people who argue on our power scaling
Nice nice all the time anyone else playing minigames or is it just me now? We're watching you play
Yeah, give it up. You guys are really good at this keep it up. I don't play many years
Every doesn't like games
I don't we might struggle to find a match. That's what I my god. Why is there artesies guild on my screen?
Take it away. You didn't set yourself to
Oh fuck. You mean there's not another five-man party with average MMR of 10k queuing for turbo?
Yeah, there's no one else in the middle of the day.
That doesn't make any sense.
Whose idea was this? The thing is if there's enough delay the stream will see it and then there's gonna be a bunch of people from the stream trying to queue into us, you know.
Hmm.
But are those people 10k?
Oh, yeah, every viewer is 15,000 MMR if I've learned anything.
At least 15k.
They do talk that way.
They're all RTZ.
I mean to be fair that must be like a disparity right like we can meet people that are like at least 2k average
Yeah, but it takes time for the search to go down that threshold, you know
It doesn't really expand the ring. I think fly just logged in he might be assembling VP
I think they want to get one dub. We might win. They need confidence. Yeah, yeah, yeah
Someone message Bulba assembled the gang. I don't want to play against last pick storm. That's scary dude. No, we can beat it too scary
Nobody can beat it.
I think OG will back to differ.
What are you doing turbo mode?
Alright, as you kill!
Who played turbo?
I have.
Do you buy small items or just go for Giga?
No.
Just go.
Laying with no regen because your core is flying and really fast.
Yeah, you can insta-fairy items basically so you can just infinite regen.
Don't pick Tidehunter because the game's so quick that long cooldown abilities are generally worse.
That's cute.
That's why Pudge is goaded.
Damage Tidehunter.
why not level 20 this is your new carry it's true
the silencer is also very good in a slark it's really good
anything that builds stacks basically because there's gonna be 100 kills
I think you should move fast I think you should move double speed
you should have yashakaya
I'm playing this until I get the 5 digit score
we're gonna be here all night you need to shut up
so this is a new podcast where we queue for a game mode never find the game but have nice discussions and hopefully you guys like the format
I mean that's not bad either
But if we find a game, it'll be a special podcast episode because we will have played a game
I just heard I hear ping-pong balls. Oh, that's me. I'm trying to close my water bottle
You hear that yeah now I hear the home
Questionable I'll take that
Skill range is very wide.
It's like behavior. Ideal.
That was reading. Get chill man.
The game will be fast enough.
You don't have to rush into it.
Oh, this game could take a while.
I'll tell you, these are stream viewers.
Oh my god, that delusion.
Who are these people?
Oh my god, we're going to destroy them.
Nobody beats Blood King.
Blood King, the blood god.
Whenever you get the questionable pop-up,
I'm always like is it awesome is it them that's about to get stomped and I don't always know
Can you guys mark your lanes please
Please mark your lanes pick a fast. Thank you. What's a good tonguey? I like it. Who's Carrie?
That's a good sound effect
Thank you. You should do that every time you press Q.
You see how they haven't picked the single one of their heroes yet, guys?
I was practicing for a long time. Maybe you just don't see it unless you're here.
Oh, you knew, huh?
Wow.
I was working on my tongue.
I got a warm hand, so I can be a pro gamer.
Avery is good at using help with that.
Yeah, my keyboard doesn't really work.
Oh, no. I connected into SD.
This game's cooked.
Choosing my both teams, but he clicked first.
Is that what just happened? Yeah, he's better.
I think so they're already fist oh, I random sick that's cool. I didn't know it did that
Do you want to send this?
I can go mid. I guys know that it random when you get to zero
Yeah, how do you lose gold? Yeah, no, I
We can go
What you can sell globally you don't have to be next to a shop and go
What is the point of that
Can you get rid of the early game trash globally?
Mmm.
Well, no, I mean, Yucuria has like a billion movespeed.
Oh, I got a harvest material.
Okay, well, what are we questing?
I got a harvest material.
We need to kill Qwap.
Requesting you to kill...
Let him shot.
Gang mid.
You're a primal beast?
Yeah, I'm a random primal beast.
Yeah, yeah. Just charge from behind. We got this.
Yeah, totally.
Turbo!
Gold, more XP.
Yeah, never played it.
Never played Turbo.
We're getting a pop-up on describing how to play Turbo.
It's gonna be fine guys, this is a-
Wait, you can't move the carrier.
What? Oh my god, this keyboard doesn't have the key for 4 board.
Oh, Tilda. It doesn't have Tilda, yeah.
I don't have Tilda. Where's my Tilda?
Yeah, it's not.
Yeah, mine doesn't do that either.
Yeah, I cannot open scoreboard.
Open shop?
It's a catchy lick.
I can't put the-
Can Orange get out of the base?
Okay, I'm just gonna-
My carrier doesn't- What? My carrier doesn't even move.
Can you not move my carrier either?
Yeah, you don't-
Oh, I'm dead!
Game!
Fuck!
Game!
Fuck! Oh, there!
We have AFK brother in base!
Yo play game orange report orange report orange
Yo level one smoke who's smoking?
You guys are on this one still?
Who's smoking?
How do you move your courier?
You don't move the courier, you don't move the courier
It just goes brother, it's turbo
Yo guys we have observer board, we're hooking
Look at Avery, he's gonna hook
Hook the bounty, let's go
We got one rune, we're really good at this
I can't open this
It's pink kill kill kill kill kill kill
I'm going this
You're so small
I literally can't see half my screen
I love it. I love it.
I'm on 60 FPS.
Get back in there.
Dude, I don't want to fight.
I want to go farm.
This is turbo mode.
Must hit creeps.
I can't see it.
It feels so hard to click on the creeps.
You think you can't see anything?
You got the better screen.
I cannot do this fast.
I can't see like in turbo.
I can't see.
I can't see.
It's three quarters of my name.
My sensitivity is like four.
Where the fuck is my carry?
I'm here.
We got the two big boys down the lane.
I'm here.
We got the two big boys down the lane.
Curse.
Yeah, you hook him back and then I look him back.
There's a bounty room still here.
What the fr...
You don't want ping.
I can't.
Yes, yes.
You don't ping?
I won't ping.
You're not.
I got Mast.
I flash ping.
Easy.
It's a might auto attack.
I just lag, Eric.
I'm actually lagging.
I am also lagging.
I'm getting DDoS.
We're all lagging.
I'm getting DDoS.
DDoS.
Unfair.
Gameplay.
They did spell it so they could dople that.
I'm going to pull in this axe.
I'm not going to be able to open the shop with the normal hockey.
Literally pain.
Playing with 4000 DPI is also kind of cringy.
I don't know who you are.
I didn't check my mouse DPI either.
Certainly a mistake.
The illusion doesn't get rid of battlehunker.
Lucky.
Go again.
Go again.
I don't know where to go.
What was that?
Do you even pull anywhere?
How's the coupling going?
You guys haven't talked to each other.
Ah, HCS, not too bad.
I don't really talk when I play Dota.
You guys are really good.
I'm requesting a gank mid.
Brother!
You're dead.
Brother!
I'm kidding.
What's going on?
They're getting...
I thought that...
Oh, you didn't even try Jutka!
Oh my God!
You literally didn't even try Jutka.
You just ran.
Literally the worst hook I've ever seen in my life.
I'm sure to die.
Oh, Jesus.
I'm sure to die.
Plains terrible
Are you sure you are a professional player?
I'm on ping dude
Executing gank just kidding you ready?
I don't have working hockey my keyboard's broken. I'm on ping
Somebody ask you to make a training game
You're gonna push this so we can go
I have Largo in my lane
I'm baiting him to me
Frickin Largo dude
I'm gonna TP mid just kidding
Oh these are some sweat lords double denies
You can go maybe
Kills even matter
No idea.
Oh my goodness.
I'll swap this deep in mid.
I'm gonna stop from work.
That was a good try though.
38 spectators.
Keep it up everybody.
But that hurts dude.
How did they TP?
Easy.
I thought this was...
They used to play their own lanes.
What the hell is battle hunger doing?
Why did the players battle hunger in a turbo lane?
You aren't playing against battle hunger.
What if you had battle hunger on you for more than three seconds?
I'm still broke in spells.
I'm sure that's what Tamato said yesterday when he went 0-14.
Yeah, exactly.
what's your lane been so far that's been good 14 CS anybody has higher CS body
keep it up keep it up not my carry that's for sure they're just hiding me dude
yeah no shit go on the Saturday now bottom then have some issues keep sharing
a tank of this and can't get nerfed
tonight kill you very easy can't do this DPI is crazy I can like barely move
my nose properly well now I was making excuses okay I mean I'm winning mid
I'm good
where you going Bob
stacked I literally stacked just going this two seconds ago I want so much
like god I don't know I mean I have low FPS but not like every time I press a
button it just waits a second there's some weird shit going on this game
I ain't gonna lie, I'm getting hacked for it.
He's killing me.
I have ult in 25.
Mr. Chair, I'm old.
I'm old.
Dude.
I can TP in 20 seconds somewhere.
Hey guys stop buying the blood grenades, I need them to stack ancients.
Sorry I have one and I'm gonna use it to kill heroes.
This guy is so massive dude.
So when does Lotus spawn?
One spawn and one and a half.
Everyone in it, okay there it is.
I can TP bot in a sec, I have a kill this guy, go Spectre.
Easy bloodsheeps.
Time to play the music.
Good call, good call, that's communication.
Dude, I'm playing the music hero without any sound.
I'm TPing top, focus, focus.
TPing top, TPing top.
Go mark, go mark.
Go this way, I heal you.
I'm ready. There we go. I can go through.
Oh, one's on the left. You snipe me?
Dude, I couldn't press my stick faster.
Actually, I still got it. All good.
What's going on in the top? I can't...
I literally can't see on the midi map. What's going on over there?
We're doing fine.
On the midi jam?
We're doing fine.
Yeah, like I...
Someone can TP mid.
I'm going to mid.
I'm scared. I'm going to cancel my TP by pressing the wrong hockey
on this keyboard that I'm unfamiliar with.
Pick it up.
Thank you.
God I can't press F keys.
Oh, there's a freakin' queen of pain down here, man!
He just missed his ult!
He just ulted nothing!
I guess it is a bush.
Go!
Go!
Why am I getting ganked?
Music!
Why am I getting ganked?
Where's team?
Where's team? Hello?
How the hell is Necrolov at 12?
I'm mid, bro.
What was that cooking them? Yeah, I'm getting quad lean bottom. Yeah space for you. Don't worry. Oh space for me rather
I was really unfortunate that specter uses all the second I was moving over. I'm taking the children. I'm taking tower
Oh, who's keeping it? Yeah, let's fucking go bro. I'm here
Nice
My specter mid
Irons we buying this game for old flat axes on me. He'll thank all I'm getting clogged in the coming
Oh, you're dead, man. I'm coming back mid coming up
I'm building up fire. This is relaxing. I've got my ulti going in sec. So oh my god. Where's team dude? Where is team in this game?
Thoughts on trying to like
He's only 1100 to be I think I can try 21 charges
Are people watching this game? That's 90 people
people.
This axe is massive, dude.
He lane against Cap and Avery.
I guess it's just Avery.
My god damn name on this axe, alright.
Where's the bow?
I want to smoke somewhere.
Who's dying?
Okay, they're playing better than us. Let's go S5.
Keep it up, everybody.
Keep it up, LaCos. Run down.
Keep running down.
running down brother
you know this guy's playing
down down down
this axe is massive brother
how's this axe so big
what would you guys do
what happened
come through gate
turbo is like fast enough
so you don't have to buy magic wand
what?
yeah that's an LT
I saw your fan run out in that plate actually maybe you should get it
we need a blinker on someone
I was stole before this game. Cue up all the big items.
Where'd you gonna buy Blink?
Uhhh... I mean, I'm a support Blink.
I need someone to buy Blink.
I get to hear my music as long as I stay next to Kezu.
Just stay on Kezu guys.
Oh, I know that.
I'm coming, I'm coming.
Oh, just for me?
Please stay on Kezu.
I'm in here, my music.
I heard stacks.
Yeah, go take that.
I'm gonna take this Inves.
Kezu, I got Blink.
I got Blink here.
Blink's online.
Okay, go.
You have Blink?
Yeah.
No, you don't.
I'm ready to Blink.
I can bait this, axe call is coming, I need Largo to suck me when he jumps me.
I'll hook you, I'll hook you wrong.
I'm gonna get sucked first.
Are you ready?
Yeah, go.
Grabbing.
I put him down, he didn't know.
No!
No!
Keep it up everybody.
I'm hitting tower.
Oh shit, I'm burning him.
I killed him.
I'm healing.
I'm just staying with Largo.
Wait, bait him over here, bait him over here.
No, calm down, calm down.
We're coming, we can actually fight this.
Kill Martha.
Coming with the ravage.
Got it slow.
Keep it up, sheave her ravage.
the axe I'm getting sd ulted whoa this guy's good stun silence reaper I can't
don't have it where is the reaper man I can't think my Alice abilities what
I'm dead where was the ravage nice kill blood king I got plus sheep so you got
this one you can't kill what king he's got the woman
Oh, Marthas here as well. Holy shit.
Get SD.
Getting cucked here.
Going in there Gary Oldman.
Young Gary Oldman.
Young Gary Oldman, not so young.
Old Gary Youngman.
Keep it up.
Heal him! Why are you cabbage ditching?
I can't.
I can't.
Largo, dude.
Useless Largo.
What do you mean?
Oh my God, if we had any hero.
Me for 50 minutes.
What are you talking about?
Because we're all dead.
If we had useful hero
We do I was a 20 second cooldown. I'm global
I'm actually be anywhere someone's dying. Who's dying?
You're fine. Keep it up. Go ahead
I'm ready to smoke somewhere
I've almost got playing okay ready to smoke
I'm up here. I'm picking on myself. I can't see the mini-map. You have to tell me where
River I'm purple. Are you colorblind?
It is the plate don't without being able to see a mini map
On the map
Smoke me I'm going mid
I'm killing the wave and then we smoke
Jump so poor. Oh my god. That's all right. I got a link coming. Thank you. Thank you smoke me, bro
I'm smoking. I'm smoking you guys. I'm running. They're killing my illusion. That's a rush
Who are you? Oh this guy?
watching someone oh my shit help ravage no have yeah you can't use it we're dead
we're fine Largo save us he'll mean something I have healed you that many
times it was not enough visits as we're lacking some communication was not
ready for hook Largo useless game sounds I can't even hear Largo how am I
supposed to know it's what spell he's using is the creep wave close to top
yeah I just want to teleport somewhere and get the fuck away from all my allies
you're largo though you must support up in 10 guys since he's going say why is
barred frox so angry team okay I'm gonna hook the guy who shows you're
gonna reaper him yeah I can TP in two seconds this will be good I'm teaching
They won't know it's coming. They're rushing. Yeah, scan it
Maybe a third scan let's take the tower let's stack up for acts guys. This is good. I'm running to you guys
Yeah, you were stacking in with with the oh nice you burps on me wisdom wisdom. What is it?
Nobody knows every three and a half so it was one minute ago. Are they behind me acts is gonna jump
I'll break the skin so I'm break the smoke and someone use the scan. Oh, I think one is ready. They are on me
Yeah, sure, I'm gonna reaper someone. Can we kill blood king? What dog? I can't reach
Nice
Sheeps I use her stay with me say stay with me
Okay, let's go. Oh, yeah, go
Where's the Reaper?
What was that you bought an axe we're getting more at that where was the Reaper?
Why? I don't know man. I keep it up. Next fight we're winning.
We got Mort that only wants you. You're gonna buy shard, that's a good shard.
That is a good shard. So what do I buy against Mort? That's the problem.
We Gigi. We're in the shroud. Oh it's a right clicker. Can't beat that hero.
Is that their mid? Yeah.
I'm looking for a pipe. Who's buying pipe? Avery? I'm going heart brother.
I'm praying. I'm gonna pray. Three hearts
and pray
sax doesn't
dunk on us all
there's an orchid
buy lotus thanks
oh that's not your problem, solo
no
i'm a core player
do you think you hear collapse in true sight? buy linkins
just buy heart for me please
buff me
i need pipe
we actually need jewels for the axe
that is actually the biggest lightning
yeah who's buying that?
Largo?
i started buying vjv
Largo?
get on the case, Largo
I think we're doing good. I think we're going through camps that have been farmed.
Absolutely screwed in this game.
Not yet.
Not yet!
Hook that tree.
You should come here steal my farm.
Yeah, that's what Gary Oldman is.
We are behind you. 15 seconds, boys.
Yo, yo, what timer is it?
The webcam is blocking the timer.
Nobody can see anything.
Yo, wisdom shrine is up, guys.
Wisdom shrine is up.
Gary Oldman just blocking camps out here.
Fuck off.
Smoltam, I'm reading you.
That's the only camp I have, dude.
I don't even know what you're doing.
I can't farm anything in this goddamn game.
It's gotta figure out what unrelent to guy does.
Okay, guys, let's go together.
We have Largo.
He's gonna suck me and then we ravaged them that sounds good. All right, let's do it
I'm so far. This is the new time and you just show up to it like way late. I'm gonna buy a thing goes. I'm just gonna go fucking up
All I wish I was there right now the same
He ravaged him
Silence he's dying. Oh, nice save. Wait, let me get the fushy
I got him. Love's king. Not real. They're on me. Spectre on me. Keep it up. That's not real Spectre.
I can hook this guy. I can't hook him, run. Yeah, keep it up. That was ping lag. Keyboard lag.
I'm healing you. Where is Largo? Where is Largo, dude? Dude, Axe is teeping to this fight.
I'm out, bro. I'm out. Hook me, hook me, hook me. I'm not hooking you. I'm teeping out.
I got a farm. Where's axe he's coming. Oh
I'm out
Honestly, not bad. Not bad. That's an important. Not bad. We killed one. Next time
Go pro instinct weakness pro instinct
Yeah, I play her baby. You ain't good. It's done me with four wards. They're free. I'll buy one purge
Can you buy one? I'll buy a second. I'm a pause for for the record. Okay, you guys are really but I'll buy some good again
I cannot reiterate I cannot see a map. Okay, I am not doing words. Yes, you know, oh, we have hearts and punch double heart
Yeah, we're good to go. We're good. You'll get it over the front line. Let's do Roche. We have
Report Largo the hell is that music dude?
What is this?
Like Star Wars or something
Okay, I can't nobody can hear anything over in the this
Why is no one stealing my farm, bottom guys come in front of me.
Oh, I've been jumped in clean.
Oh, you're okay, you're cooking.
He does so much damage.
Yeah, he lain again.
One second, so I can't use wards to her career to check high ground.
You just have to...
Just charge over that shit.
Guys, I have scythe ready.
We're good to cook.
We're good to go.
We're good to cook.
We're good to go home.
They're going roach.
They're all so high level.
They either see me or they're going roach.
They're see me.
Okay, we can catch up if we win fights, I'm sure.
Yeah.
This axe is like the biggest problem.
Let's keep talking about axe. I think axe is the problem.
He has so many stacks.
God damn code of garbage.
The talent is ready.
I'm buying blade mail and then we kill more.
I have blade mail. Let's triple blade mail.
Does he have BKM?
He doesn't.
20 gold.
I hear a tide farming creeps in my in-ear.
Why?
They're here.
We could gank Blood King.
I'm dead brother. I'm fucking dead.
What do you mean you're dead? I gotta go mid.
Not on a TP.
Oh you can flop.
Yo who's this?
Yo yo yo! Who is this?
Oh they're smoked here.
Go team.
Morta has Aegis.
Can we kill him twice?
Kill him once. He's dying once.
We can kill him after.
Are we ravaging him?
Coming.
I'm coming. I'm also coming to the fight.
I'm here.
late male.
Go Morta. Morta, Morta, Morta, Morta.
I'm silent.
OOOOH ZABIKI!
That's real.
OOOOH COME TO THE BIG MAN!
AHH!
You watch this blind hook in this country?
Daddy, he lights a house.
Wow, this guy's good.
That was a good hook.
I hit him, but he blinked out of it.
He's bugged.
Watcher, watcher.
Bug abuser.
Gonna save everything twice.
That's how notable he's been.
That's the turn of envy.
I got a full Sheeva's off.
Full Sheeva's, full Sheeva's.
Full Sheeva's.
Full Sheeva's.
Full Sheeva's.
I am scanning the spectre, scanning the spectre.
Drop your stick.
ZOOSELT!
Drop your stick.
Zusold, Zusold!
Give me the cheese!
Don't show on the wave, Mr. Largo.
Oh, you don't know where it is on the wave.
Show it on the watcher.
Drop your stick! Drop your stick!
Where's the specter?
I'm gonna go bloodstain.
Anyone have travels?
I have Sheevas.
I have Sheevas. I have Sheevas.
I have Sheevas.
Bottom, bottom, bottom, bottom.
Fake, fake, fake.
It's fake, it's fake.
It's real.
There's a real one.
That's real. I'm going in.
You don't get the real one. Blink.
That's fake. That's real.
Link
I'm not gonna blink I'm caring real
It's turbo mode you don't mind these stupid items
Cap do you have shop
I'm buying smoke, I'm ready. Who wants to smoke with me, guys?
Me?
Holy shit, rattle cage. We are online.
I don't know what timer it is, are they respawning?
1950.
I also got rattle cage.
I can press smoke. Press on me, guys, let's make the train.
Press on me.
Cap on mid.
I don't know what that means, but I'm okay.
Put the right clip on my hero.
the game I need a hotkey fix we've no no pausing I'm smoking let's go
purchase TP mid we gotta buy the base keep that up right smoke 10 seconds for
ravage right there one of you by a blink no yeah it's by link all things
every fight oh amplify day you know I broke come come come so so so so so I'm
taking that I'm the daddy I'll see ulti can do more damage on there at 30%
Yeah.
Oh, you broke? Link in?
Shard?
Don't have it.
Okay, keep it up.
I'm orc-ed it.
That's my next purchase.
Okay, that was good. That was a good smoke.
Let's go again soon.
Good try, boys.
Keep it up. Let's take this tower.
Let's push red. Let's stack for Axeball.
Yeah, maybe. I don't know.
Please don't stack on me.
Please.
You're careful.
Careful, careful.
Buff me Largo, buff me Largo.
Please don't stack.
Just buff me Largo.
Please don't stack.
Buff me Largo.
My shard's coming.
Nice.
I have shard I'm sharding this problem I'm sharding big hook on axe
Oh
They used everything on me free fight free fight free fight
Where was the Reaper it's here?
I'm getting more help help help help help help help help help help help logger logger logger suck me his old
Sound suck me suck me suck me suck me you're fine rocks. She's dying. She's dying. I
I can heal you. I'm healing you I don't have to be the stack
Nice nice nice go strong go strong go strong. Yo this guy I'm slowing him
What was that that's me being Largo. That's his enthusiastic mouth noises. Yeah, you should know about that one anyway
Yo, yo, yo late meal
We need to create I got Blink ulti. I'm killing the creep wave. I would have I would have wiped them all
Yeah, I got healed. Oh creep wave creep wave guys. I gotta go farm. Where was death pulse?
You actually got it. I was the only one around. Where was the Largo, you know, and I needed it?
Nowhere to be. You guys can go together. I've bought two. I will also get one.
You'll save this thing, pubg battleground. Shall we join him?
Oh, yes.
You got to get away from my waves.
I have boots of trouble too. I'll go to purge. Okay, sounds good to purge. Stay there. I'm coming. Okay. Keep it up.
What timer is it? 21? 21, 23. 6, 7, 6, 7.
Alright, we're ready. 40 seconds for ravage.
Am I getting ganked?
Someone take some load assist and feed them to me in the fight.
No.
Because you like this one.
Not buying aggs.
Maybe I'll go aggs.
I'm buying aggs.
I'm buying aggs.
I need 200 golds. I need
Rocks top rune checking top rune come top rune top rune. No, okay. I far came
I swear one of these fights will not get jumped in
Okay, what do you need it for I haven't figured out
Let's go guys I've arcane rune. I've boosted travel to go away. Wait a minute. Who made you captain in his game?
Well, then you do something. I don't want to cut that. I'm retired by a blink
No, okay, press move on Largo. Let's go smoke. Okay. Who has smoke? I move Largo. What does Largo X do?
You have smoke and be two drums. I'm buying the smoke. Oh good. Keep it up. Let's go behind the smoke
Keep it up. Largo make the music. Do you have shop large?
Stack for X. Yeah, let's go here. I got a farm top. I got a farm top
I need to go bottom, bottom makes sense okay?
Yeah of course then they're not top, why is Pudge running top?
I gotta get a little top out
I broke, I broke, I broke, I broke
Oh shit!
Oh you're...
Oh fuck!
I played male
Nice
Oh we're splitting on them
I'm healing you, healing you again
Keep healing him
Axe is ready to attack
Oh we got Axe!
Oh we got Axe!
Oh my god, we got Axe!
We got the daddy
I need heal
I'm healing, kill Axe, I can scythe him soon
Keep going
I'm waiting for disruption
I broke his axe
Help help help
Help! Help! Help! Help! Help!
I'm dying.
Oh my god, he hurts so bad.
He got the forbidden item.
Oh my god.
This is a forbidden for my-
Stay with me, Largo.
Woo!
We lost.
I'm sorry, I did my job.
We lost.
Yeah, that more to build, like, 25,000 damage.
I killed the ass.
I took 1,800 to 7,800.
What are the rest of you doing in this game?
Look at my damage. 6,000 damage. Almost 7k from now.
In what?
Can you consider buying any item that protects you against magic damage since they have them
more at their core?
No, I can't buy some more to do it.
I'm gliffing.
Hmm, this guy has a problem.
I just have to go on her, I think.
We have to go to the other perks.
Is the game just over?
Is this tower about to be turboed?
Well, you can't buy back?
I don't know.
It costs like four million gold.
Keep it up, everyone.
Keep up the communication guys.
I'm really good while we're dead right now.
I'm respawning.
Any team?
I'm respawning in 10.
Any team?
I'm respawning in 9.
7.
They're gone.
We have mech on Largo, I think we're ready.
Thank god the mech timing.
Alright, I'll start trying.
We gotta win this team.
The Roshin guy.
The Roshin.
I'm sure we can contest him in time.
Reaper them?
I'm reapering?
Reaper them.
Reapering?
Oh no, Murto with two lives.
No.
I love that bracer every.
It's holding down the fort brother.
Oh, we can fort.
Had a rough lane, you know.
Had to lane with Lorgo.
He's rough.
Brisha can't mute his mic.
He has muted me in real life long ago.
I don't blame him, I would do the same.
I'm about to sprain my other wrist.
That's a good one actually.
That's a good one, I like that.
I almost had BKB.
I'll buy BKB just for you, King.
I mean, you're like, go fuck yourself, actually.
That's a good one, actually.
It was pretty good.
I'm being ganked.
Who are you?
He's being ganked at Torment, everyone get here.
There's no Torment.
Oh!
They go bottom.
Kill him, kill him.
Jump him.
He's going ancient.
Jump his ass.
Who's going?
Jump his ass, jump his ass.
Just stun him. Suck him.
And let's stack for the call.
Nice, we got him.
Oh, Spectre! Spectre!
Is it real?
It's real.
Really?
Oh, I'm being clocked.
He flash ulted me. I'm fine, I'm dead.
He has Spectre.
I buy back travels if we take this fight.
Can we wait until this guy is ulted?
Yeah.
Okay, I got punched in the head.
Can you kite?
Diving.
I have an ult.
I could buy a back with boots.
It's not bad.
Don't watch it.
I'm coming. I'm coming.
I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming.
I'm healing. Kill the other guys.
Okay, Blademail is fucking sick.
Nice.
Eating the Murdoch?
Eating?
Eating his ass? Let's go.
Blademail saved his hand.
Easy.
You just went full HP.
Oh, yeah.
Buy them, buy support items.
You're right. You got me.
I have one minute.
Easy 10,000 gold, let's go.
I mean, we have the infinite scale.
That's true.
We also have your...
As long as she's not going to do that in the other range against you again, I don't think.
All we have to do is kite that BKB.
Go with call. Keep that shut up.
Mm-hmm.
And I can't open scoreboards.
Yeah, it's the same.
Like, I can't open shop. Shop is less bad, I guess.
where is creeps in the base man
snack for a call?
where's Avery?
I have to
aw they clean
and
going
that's Siphon 10
nice
uh oh
oh you should
uh oh that's not good
oh where is team?
alright we're
30 more
where are you asking?
27
where's team?
when you're hitting creeps
imagine Avery was there and we killed him
I got bot
you guys insta died
what?
I didn't die
I really had double creeps in our base sir. What do you like me to do and the throne nearly died you
Guys he has refresh in the orbit. Yes, we need to double ravage him
We'd actually go there for 50 by the way, they show I have refresher yet. I have travels to lumb farm
I don't hex hex hex success. Yeah, I think I ex eat that eggs
and get eggs
They go on me. I don't know. I need wind maker saucy
Also dirty my map looks pretty dark. It's very dark
So's caps
Cap was rude production muted his mic
He was negative. He was
Keeping the negative energy up. We don't like that here. Don't keep up the energy
Big bounty, oh this is gonna have
this guy's buying hard he's good
4 million of tpi's
oh god damn expensive
oh my god it's pop-axe
we're gonna get you mid
oh that is a worth all i need help
i'm dead you're so far out
maybe i hook him in here we kill him or something if he's
If you kill Marta, I think it's GG.
Yeah, he doesn't have buy.
He just bought back. We need to do some emotes.
Yeah, I don't know how. I don't have Haki's for it.
Hell.
He's knocked. He's not pushing dude.
80 seconds, guys. You got this.
Alright. I make up a plan, guys. You have 80 seconds.
If they ward the base, we just roll.
Nice.
Is this like fine Marta or bust or what?
We're just gonna get this run.
We're rolling on Marta, but we need SD.
I
Blind hook ward there it is careful
Get them creeps and the creeps on aggro do it. Oh, he got him
We're eating him. I don't know if this is good by the way
I'm eating think it's a word that comes in. Oh, oh help him. I'm dead. Bye back. Oh
My back this guy's too good 40 seconds
And we're holding for 40 for sure 25 seconds
No glyph, micro 15 seconds to keep it up
Dude, I'm just promo-ing him.
Yeah, keep it up, guys.
I'm up in 15.
Axe down.
Kill Morita.
Kill Morita, Morita, Morita, Morita.
And second.
And second.
And second.
Sector in base.
No Scaliger.
You're going for the throne.
Kill Scaliger.
Wow, these guys are weak, dude.
I was going to win that fight.
No cap.
I was going ham.
GG, well played.
Nice try.
Nice try, guys.
There it goes.
That was a weak.
That was weak.
We've only won that game.
We'll try again tomorrow.
We have time for one more.
If we can delay the game in that series.
I don't know if we have time.
I think we need to have one more.
I'm pretty sure we don't have enough time.
I was gonna carry that.
I was gonna carry that. Oh, I got materials.
Man, why did that axe get so far?
Did I even get my quest?
I killed Qwap.
I got my quest. We just didn't win.
I got two.
That's a W in my book.
I lost my Qwap.
How you doing, Cap?
Sprayin' your other wrist on camera.
This is your chance.
I would have carried that game. We have 44 minutes. I would have carried. I think I can play that again.
That last fight, he couldn't touch me, dude. I had 70% magic resist with eternal shroud.
6000 HP, BKB. I was gonna slap him. Look at this quadruple rattle cage on our side.
Oh, jeez. That item is good. Yeah.
Is it good though? That's a good item. Oh, it's a big one in the back.
Yeah, it has zero internal cooldown. Oh, I lost it.
So, was that good team coordination or poor team coordination? That was Giga L.
I hold because you're responsible
It was me it wasn't able to play my zero. That's definitely the answer. I was I got tri-lane bottom
So I don't know
That's not true. You're feeding your three lanes got ganked by quap who mistled
Into second gank mid by quap again. Quap is plus five by the way. Hey, well, they didn't look like it
It didn't look like it brother that man was feasting off top feasting before before we go
I just want to ask cap. Uh, GCU did 5,700 damage that game. What's up with that?
Yeah, I was playing this one.
We have to go to a break. Thanks for watching everybody.
You're ready to go back in a bit.
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I don't think you know how much I love this festive cheer.
I wish it could be forever But it only comes from once a year
The lights go up now in November I think that it's only fair
Can we not leave them up for good I doubt that anyone would care
Let it be Christmas Let it be Christmas for you and me
Let me be Christmas
We'll be together by the Christmas tree
Don't ask me much, skip all my gifts
There's only one thing left on my list
Let me be Christmas, it's many years
Let me be Christmas
Every day of the year
I'm lightin' up the windows
Windows before the leaves all fall down
Can help but stop the count so I know
When you're all coming round
Wide away the wonder
Like it's only once a year
If every day could feel this good
Let's keep the season here
Let it be Christmas, let it be Christmas for you and me, let it be Christmas,
We'll be together by the Christmas tree
Don't ask for much, give all my gifts
There's only one thing left on my list
Let it be Christmas, let's make it
Let it be Christmas
Every day that you
Every day that you
Don't ask for much, you bought my gift There's only one thing left on all this
Let it be Christmas, it's anything Let it be Christmas, every day of the year
Sleigh bells ringing that charm your life
Snowflakes falling over the ground
Everyone is dancing under the lights
Gonna be a perfect holiday night
Together on the fireplace
It's been a while since I've seen your smiling face
But so much love in here, what a feeling
A beautiful sight
Gonna be a happy holiday night
Oh, joyful cheering in the air
Spread some love
Let's show we care
Feel the magic
Hear the sound
The smell of Christmas
All around
Oh, yeah
It's gonna be a perfect holiday night
My faith will be for me, for many miles away
Let's make it come and celebrate
It really don't get better, so everyone say
Gonna be a perfect holiday
Oh, joyful cheer, bring in the air
Spread some love, let's only care
Feel the magic, hear the sound
It's Merry Christmas all around
Oh, it's gonna be a perfect holiday
It's been a long year for you and me
I won't be with you all year, I feel complete
More than all the kids, siblings and their relatives
There's nowhere else I'd rather be
Joyful children in the air
Swayed to know, let's all we care
I feel the magic in the sound
This merry Christmas all around
Oh, it's gonna be a birthday
It's gonna do a birthday to the day
It's gonna do a birthday to the day
Yeah.
The holidays here to greet you
And it's coming around to meet you
Well, let the holidays carry us away
yet it carry us away so what do you say it'll make all of our wishes come true
we'll take a winter stroll footsteps in the snow won't you take a winter stroll
We'll see the lights undisplay,
Remain straight down to the bay this holiday.
Hey!
We'll take the winter stroll, footsteps in the snow.
We'll let the holidays carry us away We'll see the lights on display
Everything starts today So we'll let the holidays, yeah
Let the holidays carry us away
Some kids get excited when Christmas is coming
They think about all these wars But they give some of the treats
Don't get me as excited as the dozen of the girls and boys
But there's one thing that I've been wanting to never guess what it is
A shining machine all chrome and green is up the top of my wish list
Santa's Day is ready to ride, yeah, no matter where the Indian power go, I'll blow your mind
Takes you round the world in just one night, streaking like a rocket on a crumb sky
Tree of a present so self-made to leave me on Christmas Day
We're just one right here, sent us safe
What's real it'll be to get to hold the reins of Rudolph and all the rest
Blind draws through top, spreading Christmas cheer to all the people from East to West
The changle of bells would all be janglin' as we jump from house to house
In the carousel, I'll be singing I know there ain't no doubt
Santa's Day is written ready to ride
Yeah, that rainy power gonna blow your mind
Takes you round the world in just one night
Stringing like a rocket all across the sky
Tweet of a present so self-made
To leave me on Christmas Day
Just one ride in
Center stage
Oh, yeah
Center stage, ready when it arrived
Yeah, now ready, power gonna blow in my
Days around the world and just one night
Stringing like a rocket on a cross
The sky turned all the presents old selfs made
To leave me on Christmas Day
Just one ride here, Santa's Day
Just one ride here, Santa's Day
Oh I would, come on
From young and old to rich and poor, there was one thing that I know for sure, guaranteed
Some day you'll fall in love
Yes, Cupid has his ways and needs
Angels of an actress go between
Take it from me
Some day you'll fall in love
And when you do, you'll find that romance is
Like smoke's precious treat
Who knows if I'd be the next girl that you meet?
For kings and queens, for you and me
It's the same inevitability
I promise you this, someday you'll fall
Nightmare is on the board for so many of these teams, as the Christmas-ereapers of Extreme
Gaming are marching their way through.
So let's see if Tondra are able to fight back in this series.
Some friends after the exceptional display of teamwork and coordination that was revealed
by our illustrious talent crew, I figured we'd get a double dose of it.
We saw what you're capable of in turbo mode, and now I have another task for you fine gentlemen.
You see a variety of cooking implements in front of us.
Do you know what, well you were already-
Yeah, I was already there.
Okay, well do you guys know what they're trying to make over here?
What does it look like, at least?
Gingerbread prison.
Okay, a creative interpretation of the traditional gingerbread house.
I don't know why.
I can hear walls.
I assume it was some sort of base, ancient, something like that.
I don't know why we have to get so metaphorical with it.
Why can't we just make a gingerbread house?
Too simple.
Too straightforward.
It's gotta be prison, Neil.
There's supposed to be a twist, like a Dota twist to it.
It's a Dota show.
Have we been doing Dota twists on the rest of our tasks?
We did.
We made two big heroes for our statue, and it's a Christmas twist, so it feels like there's
the Christmas thing with the Donut twist.
You want to make like a, I mean, if you think you can manage to make like a radiant tower
out of it?
No, that's somebody else's job.
That's you, Neil.
I'm here for like 10 minutes, so you're going to be like, oh, I'm kind of doing something,
and then I, you know, screw off to the casting area, so this is up to your analyst
to figure that out.
You know this game well.
Okay, fine. If that's gonna be the case, then you can enjoy your 10 minutes in a more delicious fashion.
You can also notice that we have a little bit of dough lying around.
Are you a cookie dough consumer cap?
No.
Raw?
No.
Are you afraid of salmonella?
That's right, Neil.
Is that actually a lie?
Don't get the salmonella.
Avery, can you test the veracity of this claim?
Do you really get salmonella from ingesting raw cookie dough?
I don't know enough about that.
You can get it from raw eggs and from raw flour.
Well raw eggs, sure.
So you can also get it from raw flour.
Which is...
Yeah, but if you combine the two,
then they cancel each other out.
I've eaten a lot of cookie dough.
So you need to get it.
This is what you're saying.
I'm assuming the dough has eggs.
Isn't dough usually have eggs?
Not this dough.
You sure?
I've only been hospitalized twice off eating cookie dough.
Let's just be the third one.
We're just letting it sit out, but that's probably not good.
Okay, that's a fair point.
I'm fairly certain that this cookie does not have eggs.
Every...
You want to take that slice?
That's why you're lifting up the slice?
No, not yet.
I mean, the ones that are cooked are good, like in this box.
Yeah, they're good.
They're edible.
They're taste.
Yeah.
Here's a blitz for you.
Whoa!
I needed a blitz.
You get an Aden.
Oh yeah, I saw this minigame that you guys were playing.
Oh, it's like a mug shot.
Can I have a Nisha?
I...
Yeah, sure.
That's a Mickey Woo that's a that's a young Koski. That is a value card right there
Hold on to that for eight years. I sell it
The marketplace
Eight years as it is sell it in three years. I'm high and three
I keep it up everyone I
Can't believe you guys don't want to build the house. I'm fine to build the house. Okay
What do you want to do I want you to take this glue gun that we got
Oh
We're not doing for us. This is not going to be an edible house
See the corners will not be edible. Uh-huh the other elements of it will hopefully be edible
I feel like this is inherently a terrible idea because think about who is on this show
We're going to build this house. What do you think slacks is gonna do it?
So he is definitely eating that one.
That man's gonna be like,
oh, I'm Godzilla, I remember that he's gonna eat just glue
and then we're gonna have to send him to the hospital.
Yeah, but.
But I'm down, let's do it.
Okay.
That's hospitalizing, that's great.
Yeah, I can't do it.
We have the, did you make any of these
in particular, Casio?
Only the, these outsiders, these three.
What was your vision for the rectangles?
I asked Shever, she told me to, thank you.
I was trying to give analysis,
I didn't do much of the baking.
Okay, we have.
I don't know if you can have a floor this is gonna be I think you need to have two walls and then a roof
Yeah, which means those two are new. Oh
These are fragile. Oh, I guess you gotta be careful. I guess you could make these
The other walls in between
I feel like we need more tiles no matter what no
Those are the ceiling if you use four walls those two walls with the skinny his house
We're having instructions?
Where are they?
Oh, I see.
This is it.
Where is the roof?
The Susie.
The Susie is one of the names of the houses.
The cottage.
See, so these two go for whatever one meal has.
This is the cottage, but they just made extra pieces.
I got the Susie.
Yeah.
Okay.
So...
They just tried to confuse us with extra pieces.
Oh, okay.
Myops technology. Triangle?
Triangle, yeah.
The long piece. What happened to the other two?
Okay, just here. There were three, no?
Am I imagining? No, that was definitely a third one.
Yeah, it's down there.
Oh my.
Why's there three?
One of these is the fake one.
No, one is back up in case it breaks, I think.
That one's off.
Okay, so now we've got...
Is that even plugged in?
triangle plus the square yeah it does not seem to be hot yeah I mean it takes a
while to heat up I know that it's been a while since elementary school but they
just let you use hot blue guns in elementary school yeah I was out here
with that Elmer's eat all you want type yeah it's not hot I got time it is
heating up much like I know much like treatment am I right guys much like
Dream League 27 is heating up with with all these eliminations that have been happening. It's true. Wow
Virtus.Pro got eliminated
Put a bunch of these liquid photos in the house. Falcon's got eliminated
Yeah, they're just hiding when you open up the doors. Go to prison. Extreme gaming
in rare form
Fy
It's looking real good push it through
I mean, thank god because xg looked like they looked like uh hot trash and some of their more recent games
I would say before dream league
You know, maybe the patch is doing them a little bit of the good stuff.
Very hot and cold team.
When they're hot, they're hot.
Like a glue gun that I hope is reaching that temperature.
It's not.
Any moment.
The Virtus Pro of glue guns.
It's a long time to heat up and then elastic storm.
And then it's cold again.
What can you do?
That's life.
It might not even show up.
It might be Team Liquid decorating.
Uh, yes, we also have decoration implements, we have, uh...
Yeah, I've got some...
I'm gonna start sitting down here.
I've got some nice things here.
Ooh!
You're gonna need to decide which side is the visible side of the house though.
Green?
I'm just gonna start laying on some work here, you know.
Please, that's what I'm hoping for.
Lay the groundwork.
Look, can this be the outside?
Yes, that side looks cleaner.
Yeah.
Unseal it. These are edible, so these we can eat after fact.
Is this human?
This is just the coating. I'll do what I need to use.
Watch with me.
I don't know, observe. There we go.
Oh, this one is. This one's jammed.
I'm gonna make a couple of windows.
Oh, I like it. That's square.
Keep it up, everyone!
It's a nostalgic smell right there.
What did they do to this glue gun?
Oh, the glue gun part?
Yeah.
That, like, slightly burnt?
Yep.
This is the hardest tube to squeeze.
Yeah, it's not.
I have never found it.
Oh, yeah, I had that issue, too.
My solution was I jammed the scissors into the lid.
Yeah, it's something.
I need that.
I need that.
This is a bad window.
though slice off the tip all right I got a door wait I thought that's the roof yeah
I think you got the roof isn't the triangle the roof no not according to the
are we not doing the Susie we're doing the cottage so you got the front then I
won't put a door on this one this is what we're doing well that's the roof if
We're doing the cottage.
Why did you make a bigger decision?
How is this more jammed?
What house is on your paper?
Where's the other one?
If you want the Susie, this is the Susie.
And if you want the house.
I'm using this outside right now.
That was the one I thought I was doing.
Yeah, because I now have the outside of this house.
We're just doing the house.
We can make two houses.
What if we just do this and then the morning crew has to like fix it, you know
Oh
You you're squeezing now
It took a while, but we got there sometimes you just gotta give it that extra
Oh, yeah, that's good to go
Yeah, a little needle and careful there and you'll all the ambulance
I mean too sure, this is what Neil eats anyway.
Got an ice cream with cookie though, or just straight up cookie?
That is true.
How many jerry's have you had this event?
I've cut down.
What?
What happened?
He's just catching up with me.
Oh no, your fast metabolism is slowing down.
I thought it would never happen, but by golly, time marches on.
That's alright.
Just alright.
Don't worry, Neil, I feel that.
I keep going.
What are these?
This is some German industrialism, dude.
Oh, this is a couple of windows.
Do you have windows in America?
No.
No windows.
No windows for us.
Did you not?
Only wall.
You not know where his mind immediately went.
I said a gingerbread and he said prison.
Yeah, true.
True American.
This man does not believe in rehabilitation.
He believes in punishment.
All right, let's see.
Let's see.
I don't know what it takes.
What color is it?
Oh, there we go.
There we go.
You're getting in the hot glue.
Yeah, I can smell the edge.
I can smell that when I'm supposed to?
I don't know.
Seems like we're really professional and very good at this.
So, are we gonna put like one of the rectangles on that edge?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm on board with that.
Now this one is not...
No!
Put it together quick.
Ooh, look forward to your eyes.
Hold it.
Hold it.
Oh, I love how it's dripping.
Hmm?
Huh?
Nisha, look out.
Look out, Nisha.
The glue's gonna get him.
He's tripping.
Oh, god, the top.
That big.
Perhaps you can leave it on the table so it's like, stabilized?
No, I think I have to do both sides.
Oh.
You know, so then it'll hold itself up.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Neil, I feel like you're scamming me.
When I watched the night shift and I'm not on it,
you're like destroying all the tasks.
Yeah, I got your owning. Oh, you're just holding up this Susie paper. I'm a project manager
But the mighty have fallen right Avery as per my last shine as per my previous email
Email the synergy you have to glue the other needs to get up store. I really tried Neil in this game
I gotta finish my beads here. I feel like I got sabotage by these guys next to me
They even dry man
My sides right, but I can't really like let go of it, you know. Oh god the top is you don't you don't tell oh
I see it disconnecting. I do not think that is attached. I'm just attaching. All right. Well that fell off
Here goes that oh
Shit, oh shit coming apart. Oh shit here we go
Yeah
It's a well be putting on top of caps thing right now all right now. Oh, no it broke. We're just trying to repair what was already there
Every one to cookie there's like not enough surface area where my balls take
No, and so using the edge like like offset it a little bit give it like a
uh yeah exactly but like that's still the same surface area and you know yeah but on the edge
it's the edge of this or the edge of that yeah but you replicate that on your side
yeah i have no space this is a stealing time hard to an engine no no no yes it is
no look at the instructions man we're doing two different ones did you listen
oh my do we even have pieces for that one
I
Give me that. Yeah, I'm down to the project manager. Yeah
Well, I should also drop this in flower. We're doing really good about this
Susie
See what I'm constructing is front and we can make a roof
You guys aren't building the wrong house. We don't have the pieces for this one. You are the most useless project manager
I think his evil plan is coming together look it's this one man you see we have
this piece put the whole house together this is not a complicated structure
God this is not flush we have these pieces I'm not getting AV to project
roof roof what's it in German roofing
you put the door on the roof because we're making two different ones you
didn't know we're not lick it off you have to clean it here you can have it
I'm not looking at.
We're not actually making me to...
I don't get paid enough to look at it.
I think you do.
That's probably true, actually.
Whatever. They can have a door on the roof.
Yeah.
It's probably some, like...
...north of a lot of holes.
Super German engineer.
I mean, then it would actually be good.
What's that supposed to mean?
Yeah.
I think Cabin's doing a good job.
Yeah.
I don't know about that, but...
When you're ready, I can place the other wall.
You've got one wall ready.
Looks very stable.
What did you spill on this thing?
Have you sucked that siding?
All right.
Don't rock the boat, Cap.
It's already pretty stable.
Okay.
Okay.
Bad time to run out of glue.
you use the entire stick yeah we got another stick somewhere do we have more
sex we know we have one it's this one on that's no art project in the history
more projects is every one glue stick another hot glue gun I'm sure they have
more all right well that's one okay we can add the other triangle now not with
Oh look it's the waiter. Oh special delivery. I already ate too many cookies. One of you eat some.
I mean I can get more glue out of this, but how do you want to do this? Put it on top.
We got a lot of glue. Again there's they come in packs. Nobody has bought a single stick of glue.
Lay it in there. All right so what am I just putting this on here?
You're gonna get me a base, and I'll jam it on.
Oh, God.
You gotta go fast, it's gonna cool, man.
Yeah, I know that, I know.
Oh, that's a mess, but...
Don't let it cave in.
Yeah, you're gonna have to hold on to it, and then once it dries, we can flip it.
I don't know, we did so much.
It feels pretty secure.
You're testing it.
Nice.
It's drying.
Nice.
You went from watching paint to watch glue dry.
Well done, Neil.
What a journey.
What a character arc I've been on.
Nice, what's the next piece, Neil?
As project manager.
Oh, watch your brain cells dry.
That is happening.
Dry it out.
Okay, we've got a bit of a foundation here.
We need to reinforce the joints there.
I'm quite impressed.
Sorry, I don't have enough cord really to get in there.
Shoot it.
I'm gonna shoot it in there.
It's good that's good.
It's real good.
How are they doing, Eli? Can't see anything.
Pretty impressive, I'll be honest. I was not expecting this much progress to be made.
This is gonna be a gingerbread bunker.
Impenetrable.
Alright, it's pretty good.
I'm the inspector.
There is no way that those roof pieces are going to be able to escape out of it.
We could try, but...
Out of these corners they're up to code.
Do you want to try putting one piece on, see how it goes?
Kazoo?
Thoughts on adding the roof?
The roof with the door?
This makes no sense, man.
on adding a roof with a door.
No, it's one of those windows that kicks out.
Yeah.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, I heard your camera.
I got one of those in my Berlin apartment.
I was making nice roof panels.
Oh, are you going to try?
So let's just, let me, no, no, no, no, no.
Okay, yeah.
It's too late.
It's already done.
It's happening.
It's already done.
Oh, you can stick it.
No, I've been pretty impressed with it.
I insist.
I insist.
We're making space for your manager.
He has to show us how to do the big task.
You know what I'm saying?
You've been giga promoted. I'll do the inspection, sir. I gotta do it before it dries. Okay.
Looks good. All right, go to the bottom layer. I don't know if that one's gonna be able to contact.
You just go, just go. I don't know. We need a flashlight to build the gingerbread house.
Oh, no. That's a warm temperature. It burns. It burns that built character.
All right, how many flat there is no flat. It doesn't it doesn't line up very well. We can just push it's all right
Yeah, hold all the corners. I'm all I'm getting burned
All right, we just gotta hold it here for like five minutes. It's actually it's working. We're good. Yeah
I don't know how much of it is making contact though. No, we got a little bit. It's not in well
I mean, there's certain parts there or not. It's good, but it might it might hold. I love this glue
Long enough that we can do another round
Another round of glue.
I need a meal burning.
Stop stealing my glue.
Project me under my ass.
How?
Well, this did not stick.
Okay, are we gonna...
I mean, it's not the most fable, but...
Alright, alright, alright.
Careful with the torsion.
Easy, easy.
Torsion.
Alright, last piece, let's go.
Fill it in.
Yeah, like call like there we go. We gotta get some light. We need some line bathroom tiles
You know, you just call it up
Just fill it a holiday that light in there. We're definitely flipping this house as soon as on the market
And modern fittings open
I blow on it so tries faster, you know
Really get in here. I'm hyperventilating last piece
The most beautiful piece
All right, last piece cap.
Jesus.
Hey!
I might run out of glue again.
We're good, we're good.
As in I may need to put in another stick.
One last touch.
No strings down.
Careful, Neil.
Odd glue coming.
I'm dangerously close.
Odd glue coming.
All right, Casio.
Lock it in.
Lock it in.
I lock that shit in, brother.
Is it connected?
Or is any of this side touching?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, cool. I can turn a little bit, but it's mostly touching.
The roof ain't perfect, but it's a roof.
That's how we got the last pizza.
Oh, the final rectangle.
The backup pizza.
The sunroof.
I mean, they're going to get a little rain, though.
Otherwise, it's stable.
Let's call it a house.
It's shelter.
It's very good.
I think it's on.
Should I let go?
Oh god.
No.
It's slipping down.
It's slipping down.
It's slipping down.
Oh no.
We need reinforcements.
We need to push against it again.
I just don't think the glue really sinks into the ginger here.
What it needs is a little bit of time to solidify, and perhaps we will get that time while we listen to Purge as we prepare for our final series of the night.
It's Tundra for 6th Tram.
Thank you very much PogChamp Kanda for throwing off some blues, which is perfect because
Tundra is a little sad after that series last night, which I would love to poke and prod over some of the small
Elements that led to their downfall here. Now if you guys caught the series last night
We had a tinker game tinker was very very far in this game
And he went for this wisdom shine now interestingly
He did the right thing and he used defense matrix on every single one of his teammates
But as a result he didn't actually refresh it before this team fight started and as they jump in they dispel it using
the whirling axes and immediately this ice path comes in which locks him down
and then he can't defend himself and then the nullifier hits him so anything
he protects himself with after this doesn't work out so tundra kind of
stands here flabbergasted for a second they don't want to react because he
didn't get a blink back defensively he just kind of ends up dying and as a
result they finally punish the tinker in a huge way and this really
accelerates their ability to to get kills in the steam fight there is
a buyback from the tinker and he's gonna respond with a bunch of spells
and defensive skills, but they're forced to use Ravage defensively, he gets ran down a little bit,
and Watson eventually gets Aegis burned, which is relatively fine for him. They're getting some
pick offs here, but really close game, excellent series. Let's take a look at some other clubs.
Here's the later in the game, Tundra is inside their base, pressuring because Viper is dead for
a bit here. Now keep an eye on the dance that's going to be happening here between
the Ursa and as well as the the the bristleback here, because Ursa's got this like leap
Talents or leap leap shard actually that every time he leaps in this gigantic AoE
He's getting three fury or
Overpower stacks and he's doing about a thousand extra damage per hit right here
So when they actually do commit to each other there's a bit of a game being played where he doesn't want to get a little
Spray death, but then finally Watson goes in he jumps on pure looking for an opportunity
And there's gonna be a forcef coming out a white mon here
So watch for that, but the second it does look at this Watson's changing targets
He's gone on airy and airy has a bunch of minus armor. He's only got two armor check this head out here
First hit on Ari, explodes him. Then goes over it on Wyman, blows him up in two simple hits.
And in the meantime, Soksov is going for the back line. He ends up catching Tinker, which allows Watson to commit to this.
Amazing ice path here, ends up interrupting the Tinker from being able to escape.
And it accidentally catches the Ursa here, over here in the fight.
So it guarantees the Tinker kill, forces him to buy back, and they're able to fight out the rest of this engagement.
And ultimately at the end, they end up winning this engagement.
It's going to take Watson dying first of course, with Tinker's buyback and BKB usage, but they actually kill Tinker a second time.
This gave them the most crucial part of this game where they finally got to go down mid.
So as a result, Tundra is trying to stop everything they can.
They're going to use Gush multiple times on this creep wave, but they rotate the Bristleback over and they pipe the creep wave,
which is going to help guarantee that that doesn't end up dying, and then Aery's going to kick the next wave.
In fact, I think if they ravaged that creep wave in some ways, it would have cleared it out and possibly held the game.
So they end up going all the way down mid, which results in actually an interesting moment.
The sold items with double shaman awards was interesting, but check this out, a desolator
was purchased on the jacquero here, not the item, but you saw it, deso on jacquero here,
just to do more damage to these buildings.
They had Viper Shard for minus armor, they had this deso on jacquero, he's even got
the attack speed in Chamon Faso, which is kind of lucky, but all of this together
allows the netherwards to end up doing like 50% or more extra damage to these buildings
than is normal.
Huge Deso pick up huge refresher purchased by Soxa in a really memorable game that ended up with them being able to throw
Despite being mega creeped right before tundra heroes respawn. So very fun game and crucial moment
I need you cookies now. Whoo. Thank you birds
Hopefully lost the tundra can bounce back from because based off of the blast format we don't really get to see
how Tundra recovers after being thrown off balance because in a single elimination world you can make your way all the way to grand finals and
Life's fine, but now that they have lost the series a relatively tilting series now. We get a chance to see how Tundra repair a
a
At the least disappointing loss at the most incredibly tilting loss
Yeah, I mean it'll be a test for sure
Yay, Tundra no strangers to throwing though like this team has the second most there is competitively after enigma from the stats that
We did last year at a blast. So
Hopefully they've talked it out a little bit. There is some lack of discipline going on
But honestly great play from the index to at the end
I think Tundra will be fine today like they should be able to bring their game
I mean Tundra there a great team also like I watched your vlog because I did the same
I think in one of the later games in blast where moon was like like he's watching them playing
He just said guys just do the safe play like now they did it again because they kind of threw at the same time
I mean per shoulder very nicely Yanix is like all the right things they needed to do to then actually end up winning
But tundra they're a great team. They've done this before Moon will have given a speech. You're fine
Sure, I am me bro
I'm willing to believe it because we also got a chance to speak to
BCM before the playoffs began about what he has in store in terms of expectations for these playoffs
Overall, I would say I'm happy when you're in a momentum and your stat that you have in gameplay is working.
It kind of goes with the flow, so I assume we're better at life we are, but I am pretty confident in that.
and talks Paul 33 with the Acre special get up. Meanwhile Ari pushes forward and kills your
five sleeping skim. One V2 now, two V2 attempts to hit and he's gonna shoot down Ari 4 for 4.
I mean the meta is like just getting started so but yeah I'm confident because I think for
two days we've done pretty good job of figuring it out so far.
I can say I'm excited to play there. Am I confident? Yeah, but we haven't played them in like good notes, I don't know.
I assume we're one of the most entertaining teams because we like to like get to play it up a bit.
Last year is any indication they are incredibly entertaining to watch but if momentum is any
indication that I'm feeling like extreme gaming are on a bit of a hot streak after getting
knocked down to lower bracket because their series versus Falcons was leaps and bounds
different compared to their TI Grand Finals. Now obviously players have changed on extreme
since then, but that performance, I've never seen Falcons look so lost and I've never seen
Extreme look that far ahead of Falcons before.
I mean, they've been cooking.
I love watching Extreme Gaming, even in their series versus Spirit a couple of days ago,
they looked really good in those late game engagements.
They had really good ideas.
And I think the greatest idea that they've had, they've been building on the last
few days is just playing tempo from the safe lane. They've looked really good
putting Aume on these family carries. These heroes that can join early, we've
seen them on carry Viper, we've seen them on carry Windranger, now we see him on
Kez pretty consistently and it feels like they've hit a really nice piece of
that instead of playing for late game timings. Yeah, especially on this patch
like you see everyone else like playing fast and when it comes to XG, I used to
love watching them. I only like watching them again as of like a few days ago
because this this dunk from like the roster shuffle after TI to like a
a couple days ago it was not pretty. Like I like these players but at the same time you need to
also be critical of them because they are players you expect more of you know you're nothing to say
is your FYs your AMAs but absolutely in like the last couple games we see it here in the highlights
they play the cast they had way better rotations than like just a week ago or two weeks ago like
how they're connecting so you have a team you know Tanra they're obviously amazing but actually
they're really gearing up so I'm really in for like a good series here. This one in particular
I was always, my eyes were glued on Fy's more.
So the fact that he was able to survive, enable Ame,
get the Kez kills,
and live your life.
Oh, he's been playing so well actually,
like when he initially joined,
and Noshita Fy was one of the greatest support players ever,
but I thought to myself, I'm like,
is this an upgrade from ZinQ?
Because to me, it didn't feel like that was the case,
but it only took like a little bit of time
for him to get back into that competitive form.
And he's been everywhere.
He plays a really heavy rotation. He loves to play around that mid lane.
He's very aggressive in place to enable his cores, and it seems like the pieces are finally fitting.
Everything is connecting.
Yeah, especially because we also spoke to Ex Nova in one of their previous interviews,
and he insinuated that maybe the team had not established full trust yet amongst each other,
but games like these, performances like these, are what build that trust.
Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, you can tell from the gameplay too that
Something is off because you know these things like we've seen FY before like this guy played TI finals
He's played in like some of the best Chinese teams ever and then like you see them play together and just looks like off
Like then you just know something is wrong
But they need time they needed a bit of momentum some confidence and they're exactly like you said winning some of those games
Especially against a team like Falcons. That's all you need
I'm gonna start off with a warlock pick here very stable laner good team fight a lot of teams are comfortable opening with
Right now it's kind of like the alternative to Jikiro a little bit more defensive, of course
But so it's really good capabilities and a lot of warlocks and supports frankly are buying just like drums and solar crest
And then when a fight happens you put this on your golem or you can put on your carry and say hey carry have 90 attack speed
Basically, it's it's a I don't remember the exact numbers, but it's a crazy amount of amp for your teammates to really
juice them up. Yeah, it's funny cuz
It seemed like they wanted to nerf Warlock a little bit, but then they nerfed Tangoes,
but now Warlock is just better because of that too.
Like you can't share Tangoes anywhere with your carry, so supports like Warlock who give you teamfight,
but can also give you the sustain on lane, have gone even further up in value.
It's the same that we heard with CM, because we were not too sure why people keep picking it,
but then I don't remember who mentioned yesterday, if people were like,
well, Clarities are, you know, they're more expensive, so having that is good.
You don't really want people to buy themselves, so CM with the aura, it goes up in value.
up in value. And the barrier is effectively HP regenerated. That's true. And I think like
with the other stuff too, like Warlock just seems really good with a lot of the materials
and you can buy, you can build Pavis, you can buy Mac, you can buy Dawnstego in for you,
like your Earth Spirits, your Tiny's, whatever you have. He's just, he's just a goad of
hero.
That's why Extreme pick it up first and Tundra respond to it with an axe, which
means that they are going to be shelving that idea of the potential Tidehunter
late in the second phase, which they've been favoring quite a bit as of 7.40.
you know if they feed this axe remotely as well as uh... we did
we have to
then uh... this game is tough
hard game for extreme games
blood game, pain, playing for tundra
if i had like blink dag or four minutes or some shit
it was tourable we have to wrap up people
that was disgraceful
guys
i expected more of you
i'm sorry
we tried but we'll try again tomorrow of course
we'll have a better game
one player didn't have a mini map
no that was really fun to watch
Taster PC's like the monitor has to be very like horizontal, because it has to not be in the way of the camera shot, so it's really hard to actually play Dota on them.
There was a lot of things going against it.
It was very fun, I will say.
I mean, Tundra here, it's the kind of suit you're looking for, because if you're picking axe and not banning Ursa, you better expect this here to come out.
I hold 33 to the highest level when it comes to itemization in the offlane.
We haven't seen many other axes that go for the pure Auras,
But I think when you play Axe against Warlock, you're playing a very fine line.
If you go like this Blademail Blink BKB build, it can backfire pretty quickly.
You need to match this hero in the teamfight or also play for an Aegis,
which is something that Ursa definitely can help you with.
So far, I like the Tundra set up here.
And part of the creativity is also because 33 seems allergic to Blink Dagger on those heroes that he plays.
So if he's free to avoid it, then he'll gladly take the opportunity.
This is the one hero that I don't advocate for avoiding it, though.
Like maybe you can get your one aura into a blink, but you cannot end the game without a blink.
Especially now that you're going to go up against a troll warlord,
extreme quickly respond to their axe with their carry pick and a dark willow as well.
I really like this troll pick.
Obviously, like they pick Ursa to cover their axe as well, so it doesn't get picked against them.
And then you get this troll who's going to be good and lane against the axe,
who can buy the agonim scepter and have a dispell,
but then also have a good carry-to-carry matchup with the Ursa as the game progresses.
We saw this carry-to-carry matchup yesterday, actually, in the Tender Series,
and at some points it did look like Ursa was cooking a little bit,
but overall I do favor troll, going into it.
Yeah, I feel like in the late game, I think when Pyrr played it,
he bought an Octrine core as one of his items
rather than some kind of a damage or utility thing.
He just wanted to get his Ulti as low cooldown as possible,
which kind of makes sense with the Shard being changed now.
Octrain benefits both new shard by being able to overpower more, or shock more, and also by lowering his ulti cooldown down to like 13 seconds or something.
So like he still had pretty high uptime on his fast resistance and damage reduction.
Yeah, it's definitely a match of the cancelling, but it is troll favorite for like maybe 80 to 90% of the game.
I mean even then like Ursa gains some stuff, you know, with his talents and the shard, you keep hopping around, you like apply the AoE, Fury Swipes, which is good,
but they are absolutely troll-favorite.
And I think that's also why it's interesting to have certain matches we played like XG earlier today.
If they didn't play Kass back-to-back,
Tundra very likely would have found troll on that stage, but they're like,
okay, I may destroy twice on Kass, so now you put the focus there.
But it opens up for a new hero.
We see Slark come out for Tundra.
So I'm pretty sure this is just R.E. Slark.
He mentioned that he's been pubbing it, or according to Jenkins he has been.
And this year has been changed a lot.
I do think that the changes affected support Slark much more than meets the eye.
We know 9-class owned with it the other day, but I feel like that's just a 9-class thing.
If this hero has been really pushed in the carry direction, so I'm excited to see if RE can also make this work.
But you picked the Slark for the vision game, right?
You want to have these nighttime movements, you want to be able to have these heroes like Axan or Ursa go in with the vision that you provide.
But it'll happen a lot less seamlessly than Old Spark who had that Barracuda innately and didn't even need level 6 to de-word.
And like we talked about yesterday, when I think we saw 9-class do it, it's kinda scary against Tiny now.
Because Darkpact just doesn't work against Avalanche at all. You press Darkpact, you get Avalanche, it pops off and you're just stunned there, like the front of Sphere basically.
Same with Ursa, right? That is versus Hero, it doesn't help you now, versus Tiny and his Avalanche, so you got double value out of this Tiny.
The Tiny is definitely very good, and if I look at Thundra while I do like the heroes, they're very low on damage.
Like if you look at how they deal damage when a teamfight comes around,
Slark doesn't really do it, Chen provides you the Auras, Axe will lock down a guy, but it's currently all on pure.
And he is, like, it's his job to do this versus a troll.
There's like Bedlam, there's Bramble, there's some random avalanches flying around, so at least so far.
I like XG's draft quite a lot. Of course, Thundra have last pick, so you know it's still their strength to like, try and turn it around.
But I'm looking for BZM to have a lot of damage on his hero. Like spellcasting, midguided as well against Tiny.
And he can't do it with Invoker, Qwap. Those both get banned out by Xtreme, but he will get the 24th pick.
Could it be something like a sniper? Sniper's not very good against Tiny, Toss spec, obviously, but maybe the other heroes is kind of good.
There's also Viper still. Like they banned Husker, Qwap.
I would kinda like that.
I mean, I would either be looking at a hero that slows down to tiny,
because just with how the meta is played right now and has been played, the mids are super important,
or I'm looking for a spellcaster.
For X-XS though, on X-Trim, he gets a lot of his heroes found out.
Like his primal beasts from Slardar were found early, and now his Mars and Batrider are taken out.
There's still Suntor left, I suppose?
No, first phase banned.
Oh, first phase? Never mind. What is left for him?
Very slim offline pool right now.
Express yourself. Make something cool.
That we haven't seen before.
There's Darkseer?
Clutch offline.
Clutch offline?
Oh my god.
And he has to lean against an Ursa too.
Like there's so many bad options.
Can he Viper offline?
He could but it's also a bit strange.
I mean it does help you because you slow down the Ursa but...
You can I pick it as well if you go with it.
Yeah, I mean then like it goes up in value if you add like that
train of thought to it otherwise if it's only against the earth I'm not like the
biggest fan because I don't think you you drop a little bit of drafts like draft
integrity to do it oh I just tell there if you want to do it against her stuff
like the highest one right here oh for all flayers left but they get the match
and sped yeah I think the earth is throwing a big wrench in their plans
right now okay night stalker some counter vision against
Slark gives them some AoE fear, which gives them some kill potential against both Slark and against Ursa, depending on if you get the jump well.
I kind of like it, it gives them like two other ways to play aggressively with Tiny.
It also farms a lot less than the Tide option, where like, typically XG has been playing with Sammy carries on Aumann fighting earlier.
If you have this troll, you need to give him farm. You can't take space for them.
So Nightstalker fits that build, but he does need to make it through the laning phase and have successful rotations at level 6.
I mean I like this pick because I couldn't find the traditional guys
They kind of get owned by Ursa at least nice stalker in like the early five minutes
You have a lot of playability especially against Chen that the hero doesn't really pressure you
You're freely high region really high damage and really high armor so with a willow
They can actually win this matchup and I think also if I'm looking at DCM
He should be a spellcaster like that's at least what I see and I think nice soccer silence in this game
is actually very strong like it owns lark it owns ursa axe can never blink into
the area where you're on like already on pop-off with the w and you're expecting
it to be good against bzm also so it's cool pic I'm quite impressed with
actually straffed at least so far and you should have high movement speed too so
there's like a lower chance that he gets like giga bullied the first five
minutes and after five minutes it's more whatever because you're closer to
level six and then you don't have to like playing yourself in the lane
because the night also got buffed it doesn't lose 20% region anymore during
Daytime. Oh, that's right. Yeah, so he's a stronger during the day for the lane too
If it is actually a big deal like you play this guy in daytime
You literally you can play like you get hit usually have like ten twelve region in like nighttime then instead of getting amped
You lose 20% it
It's really nasty
This is the chart still the same where you heal with is that offset it I guess
But the chart is still the same. Well, like you eat something get like you're a giga burst you obviously have to buy
and there's other priorities so
Yeah, regen definitely matters.
What's the plan, BZM?
Viper for the Tiny. What's left for the counter picks?
It does look kind of awkward for Tiny. Like it is a very, very difficult lane, but there are plays that you can make, right?
You can toss back into tower, you can have the Willow, TP in, you can wait till Nightstalker can rotate on the Viper
and you can run at him, but it is a tough lane. They did pick this to shut down the Tiny.
I think the X is decent still, like against Troll and against Nightstalker. That part's as decent.
decent. Tiny's never gonna attack in close range though for sure, but I just worry it's not enough damage is what I'm afraid of.
Yeah, like 400 there's a lot of like individual stuff in my opinion. I still like their draft
I think the Viper was very good and I think also Mary you talked about already before it is super good against the Tiny and
That draft overall, but I would say if I'm XG and I understand that maybe I can use the Nightstalker and like the early game
You help out the Tiny and you have a good lane which I assume they should have I actually like what actually have so if it's even execution
I personally would prefer to actually be XG.
Perhaps you're leading one way or the other right now?
Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I think if they can just avoid killing the Viper and beat up everybody else in the fight, they're going to have a good time.
With that said, 3-3 could have some really good calls based on Slark vision that make the supports dead immediately, and then you have Ursa vs. Tanki Boys.
And he can definitely kill them.
I think for XG it really depends on how well they can use this Nightstalker in the early game though
because they've been bringing Ami to a lot of their early game rotations and as a troll it's going to function differently
So they really need this Nightstalker to be the one leading the charge and they need to play around it well
because if they miss some beats I can see them getting
Bumped pretty quickly with the chin drop, but if they do not miss those beats
It'll be a pretty even game. Yeah, because it's quite the quite the domino effect because if those ganks fail
Nightstalker also famously not good at playing from behind and so if he cannot capitalize on his first night with connecting with the Chol Warlord
Then the whole gingerbread house comes falling down unlike ours
Yeah, I was just falling down this game. It's rock solid. Look at the foundation. I want to touch it so bad
But I don't touch it. Don't touch it. Leave it alone and simply just sit back
Relax and enjoy a game that casted by our duo. It's gonna be cat and SVG
After absolutely smashing the TI champions and getting revenge for this last finals, Extreme
now move on to the next round to match up against another.
of the toughest teams of this season, of last season, of number of seasons at this point,
Team Tundra.
Tough team to bring down on a good day. Very tough to bring down if you're not playing well,
so hopefully XG are up to the mark though. We have seen Tundra struggle a bit in some
of these games as well. They're starting to find a little momentum with how Pure's
games were going and then they threw that game three, some might argue against the
Yeah, I think that's safe to consider a thorough 33 looked the most perturbed
I've ever seen him on the camera after that game
So hopefully they can mentally recover from that one and show up here today
Yeah, I do really want to know
After like if they went this series and we get a winner's seat of view
I'd really want to know like what conversation they had
Maybe they know you think that that's one of the games where you just like maybe guys
You just go next. There's some of those games like I'm not gonna say anything because it's not gonna end well
Let's just wake up tomorrow and forget it ever happened
Let's get his axe here though the premier hero so far early on in this patch and battle hunger is toxic
He also get the viper which performs
pretty well for X
Gee when they were playing it and flexing it around and has been a pretty good answer this time
One of the few heroes I think you don't really care if the tiny put spells onto you the lane's good
You're super tanky with the high magic resist the attacks be closer to bilitating. So I like this matchup for BGM here in the mid lane
Maybe the one wild cup for me in this game is the xxs night stalker. Yeah, I was gonna say premier heroes, right?
It's like oh man the tiny in a biper they both look so good right now in this patch
We've got axe earths very solid heroes. I would say even troll has looked alright, and then it's like night stalker
I don't know about this hero man, like this hero has not really been an S or even a tier
off laner for many.
They get a decent buff with the regen during day, not being reduced anymore, and it helps
his later laning phase as that tree is going to die, BZM clearly has the advantage matchup
here and is taking advantage of it and early first blood for him and it's only going
to get worse.
Slightly better block and he keeps that high ground ward alive.
We instantly see NTS get pooled a ob-century, but he's gonna miss the century.
That's really rough for him. This lane is over-eyed.
I hesitate to say that because he's to level 1, but...
If you don't get the better block, you don't kill the ward.
You don't see us well in the first waves.
It is gonna be a nightmare and he missed kind of all three of those, so...
It's gonna be a rough struggle for him in the slain phase, which means I actually need to pick it up elsewhere,
either through the troll or the Nightstalker. The Nightstalker can be strong only.
Can't have to be a hero that just runs you down in the first five minutes.
Hopefully, XXS can get something going. It does have the Crimson gauntlets.
Is there a hero that can rotate to help out the Tiny?
Because BCM is obviously gonna be playing Super Aggro,
as he even gets underneath the tower there for a second.
You can always gank for time if you just have a toss under the tower to a TP.
So theoretically FY can go here and try and bail it out if the Viper goes for the extra
kill or overextends.
It's just not a lane you want to leave, you don't really want to leave Nightstalker
in the night time.
I was actually thinking what if the Nightstalker?
Right, if it's just like, you know, some support sets up and then ATPs in or something
like that.
It's been some time since I've seen Nightstalkers play like that.
Yeah.
You know we used to play Nightstalkers like that?
Snaking.
Old offlane snakey.
Yeah.
When he was playing on my squads, he has a stick Nightstalkers.
He's legit one of the best Nightstalkers players in the world.
And he used to make these level 2 or 3 TPs.
That's a good one.
Oh, TPs.
That's kind of sad, because that would be a kill otherwise.
Yeah, I would have called for the TP in there with anybody, right?
I mean, FYI, full resources would scroll.
These are those little moments that can change a game a lot.
I feel like I actually missed one.
He's 100% dead to a Dark Willow TP, or that Nightstar Kratypia.
You really want to commit it?
I think that was it for here.
Well, even the Warlock might have killed him.
And the Warlock had no scroll.
So that one I understand.
There you go.
X-Nobo gets an excuse, but...
Who else?
At least that's it.
Here it is healing the pressure here, though.
Missed the Bramble.
Yeah, fly.
Got to shape up.
I just don't think FYI has been as crisp as we are beating her head to, and his early
game has been very static.
He doesn't roam a lot, he's not getting hyper stacks, he kind of just plays the lane straight
up so he's not the player I would bank on to make some crazy TP mid.
That Bramble lands though, and Stadarrealm hit, will go off and gets to kill, Whitemon
changes his target goes after xxs is not quite gonna do enough damage baby will
actually help air he got him surrounded help air on one side chin on the other
she just ran down he was out of there he should have sandwiched himself it's a
big kill a lot of extra soul looks keep a white one on this chin which chin does
chin things not a hero you want to give a start to he's gonna get the double
He's still got Shadow Realm and OAs, he'll TP back, buys boots, so he'll get back to lane relatively quickly.
Meanwhile, 33 trying to cut waves, but, onay, he actually takes time out of CS'ing to go stop him.
Don't get the double here, no mana on this lark, no lead, no other axes and two.
I think he's gone.
Oh, it's off.
And the Dark Pact gets rid of the Shadow Word.
He'll survive, but not happy about it.
That's a huge kill to stop this axe cut,
because if he starts getting away with that and gets the helm,
then he's kind of untouchable, that helm was flying out.
Here comes F.Y. The tossback once again underneath Tower.
Trying to get him in the bramble, F.Y. You gotta hit those!
Maybe they get him anyway.
Okay, Aume is like, Aume's all over the place, man.
Aume's stopping the axe from cutting the waves.
Now he's showing up mid.
You know, I was going to say, maybe you can even TP the axe
Maybe you can even TP the Axis play, I think we've seen Yatoro do it a couple times to
build out a rough match up mid.
I was wondering if Aume would go for the same exchange he does here, nice pick up, and the
Night Stalker's rolling.
That's exactly what you want.
Two kills on the enemy carry in that first night, that's juicy, it's going to push you
up to this ult a lot faster.
And the lane equilibrium is in a really good spot for our success, so actually they
came to play today, strong lane phase.
It's going to be a good start for the troll, good start for the Night Stalker, that's
exactly what you want to see and they're even getting a little bit out of this mid which is enough
tiny is never going to win this lane but they salvaged it to a huge degree based on how that
start was pretty tough
the force that was expecting to hear in the middle of the cast i barely even could tell that was
a cinder in the first thing was there you wonder why you have cinder in line
I mean of all of all the anyone panelist castings yeah why cinder
oh that fly blocked in on the bridge oh now he's bought now are he's blocked in
on the bridge okay well nothing's they actually joined in on this this is like
though the earliest wisdom shrine move I've ever seen in my life both mids are
here at 620. Oh, there's a hasted biker, they'll see you. Yeah, he's gone. That's one of those
kills you're like, come on, dude. What is this six minute haste room? And now nothing to say,
if he's not careful. Oh no, we broke apart the colon. Hit by multiple stuns, Avalanche
will cover him here, but 15 seconds till the wisdom shrines back up. Dude, Tundra
want to stick around. A little risky. Yeah, especially since Amé has already made one
of those TP rotations, I'd be afraid of him showing up to this. More afraid of the warlock
coming in like you commit for this shrine you get bonds with brambles and tiny
spells you're what you're all right for it the hell you're doing the rest of the
team didn't get the memo what was that I don't know if he's level six I maybe
understand it but Thunder hints the bailed on that too anyone none of that
business you know when pure that like piercing like derachio mode right now I
feel like the swings from him are quite hot I feel like that's put a bad
name on the rochio that means one of the greatest land winning carries of
all time despite what people want to believe I think pure some work to do
to catch up to that one especially with the early aggression I respect the early
aggression I like aggressive carries but some of these plays are just a little
pathway what was the plan it almost seems like there's humorous you know
like I can do this because I'm me see I was reading it is like limit test that's
why I referenced Rachi I feel like he's in his like I'm gonna be an aggro carry
modes maybe because that's what 30 is 33 once out of his carry oh then he's been
limit testing for some time and you know he's he's you know trying to be too
aggressive also like what limit is he testing there and it's like I'm gonna
limit test this garbage disposal I'm sticking my hand out okay yeah you got
there does hit the sticks
And why no way out, no teleport it seems.
They're bringing numbers top. In fact, everybody's showing up for this one.
Make success, even Aume, with Aume cutting in from behind.
DCM is gonna die here.
Exnova, he pops the Grimoire to give his six to drop the gloves just to make sure that there's no way Tundra can fight this.
And as soon as the Viper's gone, sentient gone though.
Yeah, without the night time it does kind of ruin things.
The fight is just so slow with ground boots.
You can't really catch anything.
That first ascension can be tough, the force.
If people react to it, it's not really a spell that does anything unless you can man up.
Thunder dish sitting everybody up there.
But they bring the numbers, they get the job done, they get the tower,
they get a solid golem drop, which is what you want.
Grimmar popped into golem really early in the game.
to me that's the best way to use this hero. Little assist gold for NTS. Mainly the Viper
getting shut down is also a big deal here. Here just getting forced off the wave. I mean
this is a very solid early game for XG, pretty much everything they would have wanted out
of these lanes. And this Viper is gonna have to jungle towards bots that he stills 700
gold away from. I feel like the first item on this Viper really dictates how the
the rest of this game is gonna go. It comes out super fast. You're cruising if it's delayed,
everything just gets mega slowed down. And now we are in the night time. And especially
if he dies once or twice is experience. Because Boots of Travels is another unlike you're
talking about Dark Ascension and the ability that doesn't do much for you. Boots of Travels
doesn't really do anything for you either. It's just like, but you are so strong
just through levels as a hero that you just need to be there for flights. I will
Also, the one thing it does is the move speed on a very slow right-click-like viper can be pretty nice in the fights.
For sure.
But that's a minor... minor payoff here.
We'll be some interesting nighttime dynamics as Tundra have the Slark, Xtreme have the Night Stalker.
For sure the Night Stalker is stronger, but the Slark can run interference against the Night Stalker or de-ward a lot of the map,
which can make some of the moves for access to a little more difficult.
So Ari can put in some intangible work here in the Vision War.
As FY trying to fight the summons battle.
Took a leeching shield on it.
Don't really know what that's for in this.
I mean, that item is... I think that item's broken.
Maybe it's just super strong.
I feel like it's one of those things that's not for himself at all, you know.
Put it on the gold.
That's true. Let the gold go ahead.
It's going to be a flackery, Nightstalker.
Which, not terribly surprising.
But I feel like new flackery is going to be really good for Nightstalker.
Regen goes a long ways on this hero.
It used to be you had to buy Echo for mana regen.
Another option is the item strong enough to justify it though.
That's always my question with Lactary.
I mean, break against the Viper is super good, so.
I guess Konda later is pretty good at this game
against Axe and the Viper, and the Ursa, I guess.
All right.
Do you think you ever rush Konda,
or do you do that thing where you get like Lactary
and then you get a different item
and then you go back for Konda?
I think you always want the Shard on this hero
at some point.
You could see phylactery DKB condor or something, yeah that's what I was thinking.
Or just go condo, do the check out.
Or what 33 do?
33 would go helmet on.
That's right, he would go on every hero including this axe.
And he is getting very farmy.
When you look at the levels, two levels ahead of pretty much everybody in this game.
Zero and one axe highest level make it make sense
Software
Dot-com well, I think they're kind of becoming valve hardware
I don't know. I just only you can be zero one zero highs level me like that. That's just
Well, I've already nerfed the
Yeah, I wonder why they did that. To me that was one of the weirdest changes I've seen
in a long time.
Make six ass running into 33 and go much magic damage while there goes your highest level
hero.
That's a good kill.
Did take the entire squad, but you are opening up the Wisdom Shrine during this
night.
Putting a lot of pressure on Tundra to contest one of these, which they're just not
in a position to do it's gonna try and sneak it with the sark but all it is here an ame
not let hubris strike him here it's not gonna do that they all go back to it eventually
it's a big win swing that xp back to your favor as 33 was starting to take over in
that department hold this double way bottom by the way right into his
respawn so technically miss no CS down here those are those little down plays
that make this item so strong don't really die again yeah all that extra
farm for what for feet he's making the call team help they can't get there in
time where was my viper where's the slark to scout all this out isn't that
his whole job, he's just supposed to get information.
Either get information or farm it up.
I feel like I already just kind of running around looking for some D-Words, but not
doing either right now. XG continuing to find big pickoffs in this game.
It's just so much space for the troll who is ahead of the Ursa here.
Better battle fury timing.
Little more map space to work with. It's not a huge margin, but it's something.
I think if actually you can get some fast fuel stuff, there's up
On the tiny in the willow that they're eyeing that would really give them a huge advantage and fight great use game against the axe call
Against the Ursa against the even the Viper for defensive purposes
Itemization looks strong here
They're gonna smoke the Viper
It's a really awkward smoke from Tundra, a chen-slark viper smoke.
Just to try and run into this tier one bottom, it still has two-thirds HP, you don't have
any jump, you have no stun.
Yeah, the fact that we're into the second daytime with no dark ascension, they don't
feel confident enough just to take the tower naturally, they have to smoke and make some
sort of playoff of it, and it doesn't really find anything.
miss this top that's something for them but xxs getting swarmed he tried to hold
this tower I'm surprised frankly especially with no dark ascension
that was jump you there's no way out I was really greedy by him where most of
these girls gonna be I think that was an overall fine period for actually until
they fed away that kill into the tower because you look at this plunder a lot
if they have no jump stun they have no initiation the best way they're
going to take fights as gamers by forcing objectives and you go to them. So you really have to
respect when they group up for these towers, the Tormentor, Roshan, which being cleared
right now, Pierre just lain into it to help with some Chen creeps. Very early Rosh. No
Night Stalker to contest, no chance to contest.
He was too far away anyway, that was close.
This call, the Pounce does not stop the TP away, they do however, get the Roshan without
losing anything for it.
This mid game is potentially going to be difficult for XG in terms of how do you take
a teamfight.
Nightstalker, not great at just fighting into aura ball lineups.
Pretty bad against Viper too.
This guy just Viper strikes you, breaks you, you sit there and just die.
I'm trying to churn, that's a gift.
Gotta keep fighting pick-offs.
If you're actually, that's the best way to slow down the group up here from time you're not favorable against.
Try and push into that next night time.
I also think his items are almost rolled in the way.
It's gonna come down more to how the fight develops than what he has because
You can't really go in with anything like you're not gonna go and fight the earth
So you can't go in against the Viper strike be it axe called. You're probably sad
Chen's gonna be really tanky. Slark is not a kill for you
So you're kind of just playing this flaktery void poke game
And then it's about getting toss backs or the troll is so strong he can just run
Yeah, the toss back into the silence is a very good combo for this game
Because they also don't have heroes that want to build DKB.
No.
Ursa will eventually... Viper just wants to tank through it.
Yeah.
So to me, the Nightstalkers game might be a lot more dependent on his two other cores than he would have hoped for with the start.
Well, I have 33 here.
He's tanky.
And they're gonna put the Chen together with him.
Double-silenced Alphate of Lawns on the two of them.
They're really trying to save these heroes.
I'm not just does not die, he's so much healed.
Yeah seriously, 33, a follow up call, look at all the battle hunger stacks, but X-X-X is going...
Okay, he's not going to clear them.
Still has the battle hunger on him, but they gave the kill either way.
It's rough that that kill got taken from him, he's going to have to go to base.
But a good ascension.
Any time this night's stalker can find kills this game, it's going to feel really
good for X-G.
also helps merge this period of time like we have a little 30 second daytime
period but Tundra are down on heroes so kind of guarantees that we're gonna get
into this next time next night time without Tundra Mickey any moves which
also means they're really not gonna get much effect out of their ages I
also lose tormentor here that would be the bigger prize taking any of these
objectives away from this generous lineup it's huge
It's on the other side, guys, you have a Night Stalker.
What?
I was wondering, I was like, what are they doing up here?
They're just practicing.
Round two.
Goes much better.
Even pro teams get confused by the tournament they're here.
And Tundra are here too late.
Not the greatest shot on the lock, but to me it's more important you took it away from Tundra.
Gonna go back through the gate, does the Exnova have any info about this? No, no he doesn't.
We've all just gated top.
They wanna fight for Wisdom Shrine.
There's still tier one here.
And it's nighttime.
Alright can get the vision. There's no dark ascension
Just blinks into all these heroes and stances them
And Taric over the top hits a bunch of heroes as well
They're all kind of clumped up and Aume is getting some good stacks up in this battle period
A lot of damage with a crash landing landing in
This is a crash landing of a team fight for Tundra
As it starts off very poorly and I don't think it's gonna end much better
The second life of the Ursa but he's surrounded
Ari, he's gonna try and help him out here where he can, but frankly, there's just no way out.
And it just means Ari will die alongside his Harry.
What? What is that, man? They just clumped all their heroes on this little bridge.
I assume no one's there?
That there's no punish?
That was disgusting. I think it was up to four.
It was like a three and a half man avatar because he put the last guy into it.
The second this silence goes out your screw.
I mean, you caught the Viper and the axe in a silence.
And then the terrorized and the heroes can't get through the bridge.
They're getting cleaved up.
Four heroes from that toss.
I guess a toss in...
A toss in his own support.
So yeah, three kind of killed the Night Stalker, but that's still great.
I mean, if you have bonds on that, that's just even more disgusting.
That was a very bold move from Tundra.
I will say that, they're gonna lose the Slark again here as you come back into the game.
Pickoffs are just raining in now.
The weird thing is, it's not one of those Tundra games where they're kind of losing
fights, but the net worth isn't going up that much because they just farm so fast
around the map.
Chen's always picking up camps.
This Dom from the Axe is always picking up camps.
Nightstalker's never gonna farm creeps that quickly, even if he's winning these fights, so...
Oh, that's a big courier snipe.
33, very close to his base, but now a lot farther as they toss him backwards.
He grabs the Centaur. Can the Centaur stuns out of now? He can't.
Who's this Centaur to?
It's under attack.
And Basti feeds into the mid lane.
Pure thought, oh, there's so many heroes there.
I gotta make the most of this situation.
I gotta take the mid tower, but it's not that he dies as well.
I'm pretty crumbling around the map right now.
I thought this would go a little better for them with Slark scouting out some of these moves.
It's just like they don't care about the Slark.
He's the non-factor. You're now white bondage rundown.
I mean, they also have the combination of, like, they also have a nighttime vision hero and the Nightstalker.
And a tiny who can I mean he gets avalanche on you can't dark fact you can't ult normally spark would be
lucid, but
Not against this time
It's a boots a travel time. I kind of like this from NTS
He got his blinks. He got his ules now. He can clear waves help pick up some of the lane shove that the night stalker doesn't want to do
Yeah
This allows xxs to run around the map and then he can still connect to the play I like the bots here
She looking primed to take this next Roshan unless Thunder can buy a couple of thick
offs here.
Farm up some crazy ores on the axe.
There it is again.
I mean we're just seeing this kind of repeat at this point.
Thanks stalker killing Slark.
This Slark pick has not worked out.
just getting hunted. The fear is a problem, the avalanche is a problem, and then if I
can follow up on either, don't have the same freedom you normally would want to have on
this hero. It's still missing that shard as well. He buys it out here in 5 gold, but
That's a big component of the support slot.
Tundra need four staffs in this game.
That's the one thing they're missing.
Four staffs in her teampikes go a really long way against XG's lineup.
I think it's one of the best items against the new avalanche.
We can force someone out of it.
Very good against Night Sucker always to get you out of the fear.
Yeah, we were talking about it like, what do you do about this avalanche?
I don't know-
Oh, forced death-synced wind-weekers are your only option.
That's it.
So you've gotta get some extra forced capability here if you're a Tundra, and you're trying to build into them but you don't have them yet.
Or you have one on the viper, he's just going the pike.
oh, oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my oh sooo ok i was about to say
i mean, eek, and HAD to be in th- there was a HUNDRETHER percent chance he gets that with that many hits
it looked like he was going to get out, ah I know i was less...
i was a little like us
if you don't net him there, just uninstall the game and find your job that's-
at that point Gabe himself does a lucky little bit
is that terrorized? oh it found the chat
But he's in this, and therefore invincible.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, hit!
Seven times the charm!
Tendra just playing for rat?
How's they always doing it?
But where is your initiation going to come from?
Nowhere.
You don't have initiations.
This line of it's designed to force objectives and make XG fight you around Rosh and higher
higher.
So you fall behind, it's going to be rough.
So what do you do when you're playing defense with this kind of lineup?
Wait for XG to group up and meet them there head on.
you don't need jump. Basically you have to contest Roshan, which as we're seeing right
now, does not seem to be in the cards. Very bad news for a ton. This is one of the few
places the lack of initiation doesn't hurt them as much because the fight's gonna be
forced regardless, but now they're just gonna be able to look around the map for
pick offs and if they get one they're gonna go high ground with it. Hope Data
was thought on this troll he is the entire item ahead of this Ursa this
man fights not even close all they just gonna shred everybody out here
x6 s is ping the wisdom shrine and are a clearly wants to go for it not going
to catch this lark again how many times are gonna die trying to get this
wisdom shrine before they learn their lesson has been killed
It's just double corporate
He's got the use to get out of it for nothing to say
Thanks to xxs but plenty of time TP and hit the combo
I mean I understand going for these plays when you're behind
It doesn't cost you too much and the upside's really big, but at some point it's almost disrespectful if you're actually
We're here every time then stop trying
Oh
Pass the bramble there doesn't matter they've got this done. They've got the lockdown thanks to the troll
And you don't really have any states
Another thing this line up is kind of like it at this point
They have some heels in the chin, but all great toss out of face
That's a beauty
And that's your aura guy right there the tankiest hero on tundra
But once you're under the gun from the troll, there's no way out.
He's just going to keep hitting you. It doesn't matter how much HP you have.
Eventually, you will die.
They really use this combo well. Run the Nightstalker in.
He's not your main damage source, but he gives so much vision, not a target.
Thunder want to go on and then just sets the Tiny Toss up.
And you deliver him straight into the hands of the troll.
Really good team execution here from XG.
making this lineup look amazing.
I thought Tundra had better hero-to-hero answers, but they never had a way to start things on
their terms and they never got ahead to force the issue.
We just never saw them take an actual teamfight in this game.
Too many things just went wrong.
3 double lane of rats with half duration still in his ages.
That's the crazy part.
He's got almost 3 minutes left.
This is the one hell of a stomping.
Like I thought because Extreme, they've looked pretty good in this tournament.
They looked really good this morning against Valkyries.
I thought they would come into this and I was like, I think they might be like
slight favorites, but this, this is not what I expected.
This has been a very one-sided affair and I really just got too much to do play-by-play for this.
I think it's just Tundra heroes are gonna get hit.
Ames actually getting low here and he is going to lose his ages.
Now Tundra is setting up around this back.
They call him.
X-XS, oh they have to call the Nightstalker instead.
The toss goes up in the air and they're climbing back against the troll.
But can they keep away from the other three as X-XS?
They're gonna get something out of this.
What happened to BZF?
He didn't force back into them or what?
You can't get away, here's too slow.
All the way deep inside the base,
XXS with just one more spiteful void.
Not even gonna go for the kill, just wants to let him know.
Well, honestly that wasn't as one side of a slaughter as I thought it was gonna be.
But we're still just seeing the lead for Xtreme, too much to overcome.
Overcome you got to the four stabs on the side of tundra
But now you can't stand your ground. There's only so many times you can force half a hero
Where's the commits BKB
Psychic and range
You try with the eblade not quite enough damage that's just megas here
I don't know about that call.
His Chul just completely out of control.
That early Datalus just healed the game.
That's probably the right call.
Yeah, GG.
Perfect game for him.
8-0 and 9.
Never dies.
And that Tiny ended up 9-1 after the terrible start on lane ints, yes.
They got that one clutch kill.
They could have had two clutch kills, honestly, if they TP'd the first time.
But you just gotta get one of those so you can get some XP and make some plays
on the map but ultimately so if a game where Tundra ran at their wisdom shrine three times
and just lost the game doing that.
Don't forget the uh, was it the seven minute one?
That Tundra ran into their wisdom shrine and they lost that fight as well.
Maybe I'm just remembering there was some sort of fight around this.
And basically their every wisdom shrine fight went back.
Yeah it was not good for them.
I mean, I think there's going to be a lot of people who are like,
why didn't 32 just buy Blink because they have no other way to start a fight?
He bought a Blink.
He did.
But I think that's simply, it's not what this lineup wants to do.
Like, let's say he goes and blinks on some play and makes a call.
What happens?
Sark Chen are going to kill the guy with you.
There's nothing happening.
This lineup is built around Ursa forcing Roche,
and you having Oras and Chen and balling with him and then going high ground.
And the second that fell apart, they were really screwed around the map.
So I don't really fault the itemization here. I think tundra is not playing their usual crisp style to execute this line
Tundra's trying to snowball but extreme gaming just too hot right now
Too hot these boys are on fire right now after that falcons theories earlier today
I figured okay, you're showing us what you're made out of but can you keep that momentum going?
several hours after the fact. Let's take a break in between.
Well, we had another series of OG and Virtus.Pro, and then they come back, and they're still looking hot.
Looking even hotter, arguably. This one was clean from basically start to finish.
I think it just looked really, really good, and I will say I'm pretty close to seeing sometimes,
but I really like what they're doing in the past couple days. I like this draft,
the way that they're connecting as well. Like this mid-matter for nothing to say,
it's not easy, but they play around it. Ame as well, like he's connecting to stuff,
He's always there. I will say tundra. They've got some work to do not just with heroes
But also some gameplay like a pure gave up a kill to the night stalker in the first nighttime when he's level five
That's crucial then minute seven you would love to invade the recent shrine a miscommunicate
He runs in dies alone the rest don't follow him. So they've got some cleaning up to do
They really do but man
Oh, man
That was so fun to watch just because I love when X success is just lead leading the charge
Like he was the key to making this draft work for extreme and they nailed it
Like they played around him so well that fight at minute 21 that basically won the game for extreme when it was looking even
That was just off the back of his great initiation getting a three-man silence
Holding out for long enough to like layer the terrorize on top of it layer the tiny stun
The key is just looking sharp purge and it looked like all their heroes just energized really well, too
Like we we saw the obvious things of a night sucker. Oh sounds as good against these heroes
But then they also made Tiny, who's already a great hero, look even better because Tiny's like, I'm gonna take you
I'm gonna put you next to this other guy and all of a sudden the nice stalker is down
It's two people for like three seconds
So they were just energizing so effectively and it didn't even feel like a close game
Yeah, I feel like to me Tundra also so I will touch on the axe at least a little bit
I'm not fully sold on it like in terms of how good it is
But also into Warlock like when Warlock comes out
You know that this year is gonna be all about the team fighting like if you go in
He's gonna drop his stuff and it just feels like 33 and some of these access in these drafts
They don't really come online like even when you do get the pipe
It's like minute 28 instead. I'm a history farm if you go in like there's fatal bonds gold
I'm happening whichever team is like the better early game and the better five man
It just seems so hard to fight so I would prefer if they go back to like they're tight hunter
You know you're gonna get Ursa anyway, or you can ban him
It seems like the one of the only good options like what's up your team fight was chance large support duo
That's garbage like that shit is not good
Could it also be the Viper as well though, like he got, I mean, against Tiny isn't fun
because he got tossed back and TP'd on and killed, but I also feel like it's a hero that
doesn't, isn't very good at like making stuff happen.
So even if they did want to fight, maybe it would have been easier if they had like a
better mid here.
Maybe picked it earlier in phase or something, I don't know, maybe, maybe there's-
I see where you're coming from with that, but I do feel like that Viper was kind of
owning like how they've been making moves that Viper is not worth would have catapulted
and he's solo killed, uh, Tiny win.
Sure.
to like pick him for lane did kind of work. I just think they really didn't nail some of their
moves on Tundra because that game, if one teamfight went their way, it would have been a different
story, right? But ExtremeGaming were just so good at hold information and finding the correct moves
that it seems like Tundra were a step behind. And to me, I do attribute that as well to the
support duo that Kezi mentioned. I'm really not a believer in support Slark after the
changes I just I just don't think they want it to be a support like they
changed it kind of to be better as a carry they moved Barracuda to level six
which is a huge deal for Slark sure you get one extra spell at level one you
can pounds and essence shift and hit people but if you're not laning and
you're not hitting people you're just the worst version of what you were
before but maybe they got caught off guard also by the night stalker
coming out like I think so they took the nighttime advantage away from the
Slark team so maybe it could have played out differently and vision advantage to like you can't sneak up by Slark and get a crazy
Pounce at the right time on a guy because nice soccer will see you coming with this mini map when he presses all to you
So I think the one of the time we saw Slark the first time we saw Slark picked after the patch was non-class playing
He got tons of kills and was like oh this looks good, but yeah in certain circumstances
It's harder to make a value
It's also like drafting is really cool because there are I think only very few teams that actually would pick my soccer in the
It is volatile, but there aren't many teams that would do it or even many players that would do it
So that's like you have to give them credit for that. Like I was also looking, okay
It's kind of hard, but like they find they're all one out. They execute it. They make it work. So XG to me
I don't know. There's just something about this team because not long ago. They were not good, but right now they're cooking
It's it's cooking for them also the on a troll like that was
He nailed the landing stage
He was talking that worth the entire time he connected to the early movements
Which is not easy to do as a troll because if it goes badly for you there goes your landing advantage
But he was on top of everything and it seemed like they respected a lot of the axe counters
Except the troll and I think versus extreme gaming
You have to think about the troll warlord counter to your melee off-laner if you're first picking it because it's not easy to make
Troll work, but this is one of the teams that make it look seamless for sure
Perhaps you can revel in the moments of this game one a little bit more purge
Yeah, I have two of the crucial teamfights that we covered I think we're somewhere around the wisdom shrines
What I think was the bridge fight, we'll have to be reminded here, here's the 20 minute
fight, this would be the bridge fight here, where they jump in, double silence on two
heroes, really nice fear on three heroes, which is going to make their team fight a
lot harder, then Avalotoss basically on two to three heroes, again in the meantime
Trolls just been slapping this whole time.
There's only so much HP that they can go through here before they're going to
eventually lose the fight to a Troll Warlord.
So even with Aegis, they still just get jumped on, blind as well, so effective at this phase
of the game here.
There's just nothing that Pure can do to stay alive here, and they end up cleaning up everybody
despite the Aegis.
And then I grab this one as well.
Here's the support Slark.
He spots that he's on a ward, but the Nightstalker is able to hunt him.
It is not normal for a Slark to be this killable, but the Flactery plus the Void
Slow, that should look like a stun with the Silence, basically.
He was moving so little that the fact that it was instant and he didn't get the
Dark Pact off, he just instantly dead.
And that almost never happens for support, so great pick with the Nightstalker.
It's also something like about this mid game, how Tundra chose their fights.
I mean, you just showcased it to us, fighting in that area against a Nightstalker, Avalanche
and whatnot, when you don't really have your Auras ready, sure, you have the Aegis on
Ursa, but he doesn't have a BKB, because we also mentioned if they get ahead or they
have even stuff with Auras, they can fight back, but then you need to choose
your fights better than this, because this is what XG wants.
If you give them this fight, they will take it, they're going to get ahead, and
then suddenly it gains easy. If you don't do that, maybe the next clip wouldn't be 8k gold lead, you know?
Maybe it would be 1k or 2k. You get to your stuff, then you can make it happen.
But gameplay is absolutely huge in these games.
So then in a world that they take the exchange that you were saying where they go for tidehunter instead of axe,
how do you see this game playing out differently in terms of I guess the first 15 minutes or so?
Because overall we still see 33 going the same kind of atomization going for auras first.
Is it just a hero difference kind of thing?
I mean it would make the team fighting maybe a bit more straightforward as opposed to your acts like sitting in these two camps and like using
Dominator for 15 minutes to like wait
But the rest is still like gameplay like then the other four heroes still have to function right and like play
But I think that team fighting in this matter right now seems incredibly crucial like minute 15 to 25 if you can't fight back
I don't know why you're playing
Yeah, these are
shortcomings at tundra they have precious little time to explore
because now they are a wanted game away from elimination
and extreme or on an extremely hot streak
let's see if they can keep that streak up as we prepare for a game number two
after the break
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Tundra versus Xtreme, getting into game number two,
where two teams seem to be on a very, very opposite trajectory
is, is Tundra still probably reeling from their loss yesterday against the Andex?
It was a fun game to watch.
It was on the edge of my seat, and it was a coin flip of a game,
so they really shouldn't beat themselves up over it that much.
And perhaps I'm just projecting because I would be ultra tilted after a game like that.
I think so.
I think so.
I think, no, but I think you're projecting maybe,
because to me it looks like they just got outplayed in that game one.
Because it was even until they started to lose the fights pretty fast.
professional gamers and then you walk away like that
Brush off your shoulders and you're like whatever man it happens. I mean it was yesterday and actually it does happen
This happens to you and like every what like every sixties game. It's an emotional game. It's true
I felt emotions when I got fed in that turbo game
My hero and realized that's got to lane is not a good for
I was like, this is going to ruin the whole tour.
You made it work.
It's going to ruin the tour.
It must have been a mess.
Guys, Tundra got a pack it in because actually you got Windranger.
That is a very scary hero.
Because, well, it's pretty sweet.
Ami is playing so well at farming.
He's playing a lot of connecting.
This hero does these things naturally.
But most importantly of all, it's very fun.
Like you can tell he's having fun playing it.
And that's an extra you look the best when all other players are enjoying themselves.
And this hero is damn fun.
With this Tangled Facet you can shackle a billion units, you get damage, you're a good laner, you can build whatever you want.
If I will play Pro right now, I will want to play this hero.
Or you can be a Toro and get the other facet and build a farm better than everybody else in the game.
Moran, Gillesley, which is cool, you max Power Shot.
Just your Toro things.
Yep.
But let's see, so they do run back the axe.
Yeah, I understand, you have a lot of value, you know, playing a Blade Mail hero.
If you can jump the Wind Ranger, of course it can be good.
She kind of has to play around with the BKB.
But it certainly doesn't stop this hero in the laning stage unless his support matchups have like a super-diff windranger will fully free farm and design.
And yet they opt for the axe.
I don't really know if the idea is to go for the same opening double core because they picked Ursa at this point.
And it's still on the table, but I was discouraged after the last game, especially because you also now know your carry matchup.
Exactly, because you know the carry matchup, you don't need to block pick the Ursa here.
You can just wait until the enemy reveals more inside of the draft.
Unless there's a team willing to run mid-win rangers on the Ursa, it's looking like an option again.
But in that case, I would patrol. I think win ranger as the carry is enough for now.
Yeah, most likely here from Tundra, I will just look for one of my support picks.
Like a pugnip, perhaps.
Looks good. Decrep whoever is getting focus fired, you can lane OK against win ranger, protect yourself.
As long as you're not the guy getting shackled, you can save whoever does get shackled, look solid.
And it's still flexible, it's kinda good against everything as a 5. There are some heroes that do better against it, but it's a fine position. Whitemon plays a lot.
I would say Whitemon is like he's the best pugna like in Prodota like not just the way
he uses like his stuff but also it's just overall how him and pure lane together they
very often win their lanes unless pure you know turns his brain off for a little bit
which does happen but most often they have a good lane Whitemon's early game is always
superb he's gonna go to the right people play with the right guys get the rune you
know play with play around with the life drain Wow another heal hero the channel
stabilize nice for a Windranger. One thing she kind of lacks a little bit is like mana power outside
of like using Windranger and not getting attacked. Her raw stats can be a little bit weak sometimes,
she's not going to really want to buy a lot of regen items, so Ken can help facilitate to make
that lane go better and secure it for her. It's something cool we saw from OG, I would say that
they're the first ones that pioneered it, like when you start the lane with your Hellbear
Facet, you give AoE attack speed, Windranger shackles some creeps, you get a lot of damage,
so that's very cool. Then later if you play the tomato and it dies, by the time Windranger has
Like the super attack speed, your tomato gives a lead damage, which is super cool.
And she's a squishy hero like you said, so Chen, Windranger, they go hand in hand in so many different ways.
I had this fun Chen build in the last patch with the old eggs, where you would go Hell Bears
and you would use the eggs to sacrifice your Hell Bears to give your team like 120 attack speed or like 50.
It was really fun, but I got moved. It was okay.
Margaritum.
Yeah.
You sacrifice them to heal your teammates and they get attack speed.
You innovated.
Also did and then they're like nobody's doing this get this garbage out of here
And now they still nobody buys eggs
Yeah, that's very rare
Channel debuff immunity. Is that what it is? It's a good get BKB for allies. I think somebody bought it in last week, but I
Do you think like picking 10 for XG should
Inherently changed the way that tundra are looking to player on the axe because in that first game
He wasn't fine
he was top net worth at some point right like he did hit his timings but he opted to just play the farm game whereas if you're playing against the Chen lineup
And you're playing the farm game and you're not looking to make these early move all of a sudden you're just losing all of your towers
You're
Losing parts of the map that you shouldn't be so as support here that can play with axe on top of the pugnast something
That will do a lot of damage and not play for vision could be the key here
this actually gonna have to move around a lot because
because the stream have layered a spearbreaker onto their lineup as well.
And Tondra get their BZM hero pretty early on to get an Ember spirit midway through the second phase.
I personally like it here because he should be able to escape from the spearbreaker in multiple ways.
It could be from the symbol as a slight chain.
It also root against Winter Ranger is kind of busted because it just gives her evasion then.
She can't actually escape and gap close.
Why not pick Viper yourselves if you're XG?
Like you see the Ember, you can pick Hostkar as well.
Yeah, nothing stops you. That's for sure.
You have this turn behind you as well.
You can opt for these tanky frontline type of materials.
Yeah, and you have a fort that would love to come to your lane if you're winning.
Sure, it's not easy to kill an Ember, but it's still easy to play through the pressure.
So if your mid lane pick gives you that, why not?
I will say that I do like that overall as a support.
I think it's very annoying to play against, as having this pickoff thread.
But Tundra has a little bit of a similar thing as Laskin, where you have some control, you have some stuff here,
but the overall damage still has to come from Pure Zero again at the very end of the draft.
I feel a little bit of regret that we don't have XM on this team right when Viper becomes very good.
That's just like bad timing.
Because he was like the guy that was the best Viper and he's taking out nobody else's.
And now it's like...
He will jam it here.
He was the head of the team.
Yeah, exactly, because I was thinking like, it's nothing to say to Viper, but I was like, I know who is.
I sure hope so. The Viperia looks so good here.
Because Badrider also suffers against Viper.
Yeah, and kind of most of them, apart from Axe, you know, like he's in...
Whoa! Okay, NTS Tinker.
You want to talk signature.
Okay, there is another Stiggy coming out here. This is one of his favorite heroes.
We did see this one yesterday by Tundra, and it looked really good up until the
last few minutes.
They until 55 minutes and 30 seconds.
But this hero does slow down the game though. It's not quite playing on that 10 tempo
So it does need time to farm to hit its item timings
But when it does it's looking like a scary five man lineup from next to you
The gang squad in general, Smearbreaker finds a target that target is going to die
And it's also nice when you say tinker with summons it allows you like easier access around the math later as well
Yeah, you're level two old
So let's see tundra
Yeah, they will take out a couple more vision heroes
They should look for a little bit more of an answer against this tinker
Yeah, Windranger is a hero you need to answer you have some tools
But like tinker he completely switches games like how Night's Sucker turns games into Night's Sucker games and it's all about his vision
It's very similar with tinker. So if you're tundra, I wouldn't mind if they look for like a carry that also
deals with tinker more I
Don't know how good or bad Spectre is but this you know these type of heroes that
specifically deal with certain heroes can rise in value when heroes like this come out.
The Spectre would be cool if they were willing to experiment, but maybe not in this situation right
now. Is it good? Is it not good? Do you feel comfortable? I think if they need a nullifier
fire, they need somebody who can nullify this tanker through all of the auras,
but Chen and Spirit Breaker will also be buying. Yesterday, Tinker looked so good
up until the nullifier came out on the bristleback, right? You need something like this. Maybe even a
troll warlord with an aghanom scepter, that could work for you. Just take a page out of
extremes book, run the troll. That could be an option. Another nullifier hero that Puri
used to love was TA, but TA did see so many heroes over the last year that maybe it's not that
comfortable. Would be another vision hero to track down a tinker perhaps, but
his hero is just not that popular these days. Meanwhile, Tundra, they ban out
An ex-access Mars and Nightstalker.
Hmm.
This kind of reveals some gyro pick that they maybe want to go for.
I don't know.
It also probably highly depends on what XG are going for here first.
It's nice if you get Teamfight, but I don't really want it to be like a super high cooldown hero.
While Tide is one of the best meta heroes, I think the way you play the map with Tinker SP Gen is a bit strange.
So maybe you could look for like an in-between like still someone that can't go in for you
You have an okay lane, but you're not like, you know this two-minute cooldown, bro
And something that's okay going blind into a carry matchup because you don't know what Cure's playing you know
I mean at least some of his better heroes are banned out
He's like insanely good on Jugger like they're one of the best teams that playing this hero
Yep, and you did take out the Ursa too so a lot of melee guys should feel fine
Like playing Tinker Windranger with a range core, I wouldn't love that much or you help your Eskimoon in the lane
But just play the double melee like get through the lane
It will be okay rely on the chin to help you with the team fight as well
I mean tides to hide against seems last game use the last make sense
And he's not against nerfs at this time, so
Maybe it could be really abused if they swap the supports or something, but
It'll be okay. No matter what they just need to buy time
He needs the front lane to slow down these towers dying
because otherwise they're going to chip kill him with Pugna support, so if he just gets tanky in front lines a bit
He should be fine against his enemy heroes, maybe get a cloak early or something
I really like Tindra because he's just a magnet, right?
Like you could just bring heroes to the Tideline, like all of a sudden your Rengaranger's coming to your lane, your Ten is there
Like you play behind this Tide and he creates an issue for Tundra
I feel like Tundra have two issues right now is when they're lacking damage
It doesn't really exist. Bat and Pugna do provide it but kind of slowly and over time
And the second one is they need a carry that can buy nullifier if they don't have a nullifier buying carry
They're just gonna lose to this tinker later on so you want something about wins lane versus tide
Buy as nullifier and gives a lot of damage. It's really hard to meet those three
Yeah, I think they're in a little bit of trouble because I can't really find it
I'm like specter or you pick some guy that abuses the lane and you can play fast
But then I'm only going for like cool. Okay
That's a low win right here. Oh, look, but it got but I got left a lot of us in this patch
Rupture against win reager is good. It is good. Yeah against SB
Give some some vision when somebody gets low, I guess
You can silence your opponent. I mean if they can get in there and silence thinker
It's kind of cool
I mean it does give them like the kind of stuff that they usually play with which is a very strong lane like both
Bloodseeker, Fogna are super oppressive. When it comes to the pressure they go for there, you have the
chain setup of the silence, which is good. I mean, I don't know how you skill Bloodseeker now, like as a QE max,
you use some QW, I honestly have no idea. Can't work. Don't know if I have any real analysis on Bloodseeker,
cause I haven't seen any.
Who is hitting Towers on the Tundra lineup?
Fogna. Fogna. Fogna's the last.
No problem.
He gets the tier 1s and after that, win a teamfight.
Get Arsonist! Who cares?
Oh, that's true.
Alright, support.
Charge.
I'm gonna earn your keep.
Yeah, so I think this is a pretty scary Tinker game.
Or Tundra, I don't know if Bloodseeker, I don't think he does much to that guy, so...
Well, we don't know that yet.
True?
Like, you maybe buy Blade Mail, you find him, I don't know.
Tundra, RENBZM, I feel like they have to kinda do some pop-and-off,
because otherwise NTS, he's pew pew pew!
He's gonna destroy them.
Tundra do have strong lanes though.
If they look to Stomp and Snowball out of their lanes,
always going to be a way to play regardless of heroes in the game.
We get to see 10 heroes on the board though because it's time to get into game number 2
of Extreme vs Tundra with our casters, it's Cap Nesbichi.
A blood seeker!
Really!
That's what Tundra are going to rest their hopes on in an elimination game.
going to rest their hopes down in an elimination game.
Casio wasn't happy with it.
Avery, are you a believer in the Black Seeker?
Come on now, don't be negative, be positive.
All right, I mean, it is a hero that absolutely
chunks pie hunters, and that is the hero
they wanted to pick an answer to, so they get that.
And if it can accomplish that,
I think they do have answers to other heroes
in this draft.
It's not the easiest win ranger game,
I do think they have some catch for Tinker. It's not zero this game. Between the bat and the ember.
Look at the early fight here. Thunder won a strike. I don't think they won a
slow casual game like game one.
I do favor them this game though, for one large reason, which is I think this is an absolute free ember spirit game.
Okay.
Then BZM is a map. He's a master on this hero. He's a monster on this hero
They have very good supports that running behind them or in pugna bat that can do a lot of long-range damage in nukes
I think this ever just gonna run around and slight chains of me. They're gonna die and then
What do you have this to stop that on a stream?
I
Mean you've got spearbreaker charging at him and then spear like that like that's not gonna be good enough
Yeah, he's terrible cat you know whatever, but
You get him to use some sort of slider jump to a remnant and then you follow that up a dead one
That's like way later on. I'm thinking the first 15-20 minutes. Mmm. I just think it's free Ember game
I don't doubt free Ember games. I think it always gives that team an advantage
Will it come through? I don't have to see XG executed really well in that game one
But I'm also a little concerned. I feel like the spearbreaker has not performed super well for extreme and this
It's not the easiest spearbreaker game. A lot of charge interrupts
A lot of tough heroes to connect on, Batrider, Ember just own you in the fight.
So even as good of a Tinker game it is, I have more faith that the Ember is a faster
hero and can really cause extra problems on the map.
They do have Windranger though, I do like me some Windranger.
I actually thought that Bloodstaker was kind of body blocked up, 33 will get a little
extra damage on him, but it's Whitemon to die to Ex-Nilba for the first blood.
Execution keeps on coming for extreme gaming here.
I think Bloodseeker was kind of an unexplored hero. Ever since they changed the old blood facet,
so now you can actually get bonus. He lost his identity at some point in time.
Now they kind of gave him back his blood rage, so now he's got this damage steroid.
And there were so many buffs to this hero in this patch, I actually kind of believe that the hero might actually be good.
He seems a lot more stable than he used to be, he still has the old blood where you can silence people, could be influential against the tinker of this game.
Yep, you now have the old bags with the double charges, which could be nice for throwing one of the ruptures on the tide and one of them on the windranger, you have very good rupture targets.
I gotta see it.
And the damage upgrade is now on the shard, which I think is better for Bloodseeker.
Like I don't think he really wanted to buy out a full axe for that benefit so even if it's not as good I think he would prefer it to be out of the shot.
This kit makes sense to me.
Well there's before I think it was lopsided. Now whether the hero is good who knows but the kit makes a lot of sense and it seems kinda good on paper.
I will say I think this hero got one of the most laughable 25 talents in the entire game.
entire game. Oh yeah. I thought I was being like April Fool's joke prank or something.
Two and a half blood right silence duration. Yeah, the very good one, Val. That's a nice
little joke. And he's been like, kind of play around that blood right at 45 minutes,
you know? You're really fighting for the region.
I mean, this town is just stupid. It's just stupid. I mean, to get to 25 is tough
And now that you should be rewarded, to add two and a half seconds of silence for a carry is irrelevant in most situations.
And to add it to a silence that is already six seconds long, like how much silence do you freaking need, you know?
Charge coming in, pure...
I mean, you're staying the boss in play, but there's still not good enough.
Okay, you got Ransack there.
This man is getting an extra 5 shell for every single last hit that he's got.
Imagine if he didn't have that, like he would have been out in his lane like a whole minute ago.
His lane woes continue though.
This is not a lane I expected the breaker tied to do as well as they are in.
No.
A little concerning for Tundra, but they're still doing fine and a lot of creeps appear to clean up here.
That's true, they do have the top 3 CS.
Yeah, the lane's going well for Tundra, despite some of these kills going in extreme's way, though 33 has been forced to the jungle.
Forced.
I mean, this man has an excuse to go jungle.
True.
I think he just lives for the moment. He's like, finally, I could just stop laning.
Wonderful to see the, the veil. He has a ring of health.
So no dawn for this axe.
He learned from last game where he read credit probably claimed it
Do you think 33 cares about he's anybody else's opinion?
Particularly redditors. I know he does not I've heard what he says it after parties. Yeah that man
used to be a red
Don't we all
Look at the gank this tinker
Oh, Frantloknader trying to get him back to tower, thought, okay, maybe I'll teleport,
but wait, 33 teleported in.
No, I had to stop my teleport.
And by that point, he's already dead.
Extreme gaming.
Amé once again showing he's willing to make rotations early.
That's cool.
Not so that we see how that can promote much of his career, but I like it.
It's how you have to play modern, don't it?
You have to be willing to move around, make the right play at the right time.
Did we see that at TI from him?
maybe that's every ti loss on me just learns a bit more you know way to do it
eventually you get there heads up play from him let's get something off of that
tinker death but December's level six this is where Tundra kind of played
through BGM if he can get some power in rolling look how sacrificial he's being
Maybe two stack of visuals stuck around for the power rune
To try and ensure the ember spirit doesn't get it instead is going to die through that ember spirit
And extreme gaming can't really do anything about it. That's a rough one
I mean, I respect going around looking for plays, but that is two stack officially. You're missing out on too much experience
level four
Lower level than this Bat Rider
One of the lowest levels in the game, you need to exp on this hero, so a little learning
curve probably on the early rotations, you know, still figuring it out.
See, this is why it's just easier to be an AFK carry player.
You make moves, you know, inherently those moves come with certain risks.
And you end up falling really far behind.
Could just be playing the lane.
Who cares what happens to your team?
FY!
It's okay. BZM a little low on resources.
Waiting for us TP to go base to come back potentially.
Ah, Vanguard build up for 33, potentially rushing a Crimson this game against the Windranger?
And all this Chet Army?
Could be nice.
I honestly wouldn't mind just, and really blink from in this game too.
If the Ember has a good start and can play fast, you can just go and set stuff up for
the blood right for Pugna spells.
I think it synergizes well with the lineup, though I know he does not like that play style.
Ravage for him, and a bash.
And a bash!
They may not have gotten that kill if they did not have the mash on top of it, but hey,
got him anyway.
Ooh, big burst of damage there colliding with the remnant, chain flight.
Nothing to say, dies yet again.
His tinker is being hunted.
Oh yeah, that is the name of the game here.
That writer is great at hunting this hero.
Can get another power room for the ember.
Earn online.
This is where you enter that
portion of the game that's scary for extreme to interact with anything around it.
And Pugna's gonna start blasting your towers so you're gonna lose a little map control.
You have to make it up elsewhere. Ideally on these sideblanes if you can.
You could make a move for this tie.
He's a tanky boy, though.
Kind of surprised this is the guy they're running the Ember into.
As opposed to looking for Tinker in the jungle or making a smoke play for the Windranger,
I would not want to go to the tide lane.
At some point, your supports will give you a lot of damage, particularly the Pugna
the dream something that the tide can't just blubber off all day to slow down yeah
the javelin he commits to that kill and probably gets it but unfortunately for
him it was still flying out
There's that drain.
I baited him in.
And Y is gone.
It's gonna be a rough spearplay.
It just does not look easy to connect on anything here.
Also, your line-up is very farm-heavy.
Tide, Tinker, just gonna farm.
Tink, Chen's gonna farm.
Who are you really making plays with this spearplay for in this game?
That's why I feel like this is the odd hero out for Extreme.
They went to the ancient army, slipped the right past them. Now they see him on this creep wave.
Everywhere you look, it's Tundra playing right in extreme gaming space and...
You're just kinda asking the spearbreaker to stop all of it.
Charge completes onto 33 with the javelin. They will maybe get the job. Oh, no way
Oh my
Now the Chen is getting pulled away from the axe as well. Are they really not gonna get this?
You can FY get one final charge on him. He's got the charge. Nope. It's denied a flame break stops him
All right, he's gonna go back in he wants some extra
I don't even know if you should be going for this play as extreme. I think it's it's foolhardy to expect
this thing to happen with early vanguard ass. The supports have so many more levels on the side of
Thunder and again the spear breakers kind of just did your bait right now he doesn't do any
damage. I think you should be playing tiered Tinehunterling. I think you just have to stack
and farm let tundra go into you and fight them on overextensions you don't
have to kill thread in this game you don't have to reach it's a curious
rupture
look how much freedom this ember has right now you're messing around pop
but BGM is just forcing chen out of the jungle again there's no threat on
them in this game he's gonna do whatever the hell he wants you will
get that frost on mage get wrecked top 30 net worth a sizable gap 10% gap
between Tinker and Forrest and Axe.
Again, Triangle getting invaded, BZM, you can go wherever he wants, do whatever he wants.
Ex-Toba hoping that the region will keep him alive.
The charge is coming in, BZM is gonna be stopped here.
So they have to rush, they wanna drop it here, BZM overextends himself.
Alright, maybe I hyped him up too much.
There's that defense.
Do whatever he wants, go wherever he wants.
Well, that's a defensive fight that will work for XG.
If you can bait the overextensions
You have decent turn around if
Tundra go deep into your side of the map
That's just kind of a throw away from VZM
So how do you use all your mana to chase down the shed?
Yeah
So just be forcing reactions, getting an economic advantage
Understanding your Bloodseeker acts are farming
While you're getting all these heroes from XG to show
You don't need to kill them
You'll get the best will charge the hard way
Going to base, still a okay lead for Tundra
for tundra but you want to get more out of those kind of plays now you have
another strike available the breaker maelstrom almost done for omis he picked
up the pugnit kill in that fight
you're probably dead here in a heart
if why body blocking him saves the old not even have to use the old time
You'll TP back and set up for a different kill.
That's a big deal, he doesn't have to hold.
This means you still have a lot of threat with this breaker.
Try and set something up around the map.
I'm just bleeding some big kills, so I thought it was going to be a lot more one-sided with the playmaking advantage they have.
I haven't really gotten a lot done with it.
that
there's a fast crimson for thirty three
battle theory for the blood seeker
how about that one she said
how to replace him and he did it should be a meal near bill I
I've always thought that Mjolnir is better on this hero.
Particularly against...
Windranger, Tinker...
Mjolnir gives you something to be able to...
...deals the miss chance a little bit, while also giving you...
Mjolnir would be very valuable in this game, for sure.
Put the active on somebody who's being...
...focus-fired?
It's a good active game. I mean, I guess he's getting a lot of attacks, be off max blood rage here to clear through jungle.
Yep.
That's true.
Oh, I'll see if it pays off. I mean, he's gonna get farm here.
180 attack speed with the talent off blood rage definitely makes the Cleave go...
...tam.
Charge onto this axe, bottom, definitely the isolated hero on this map, and...
...XG can always bank on that.
Setting up for him. He walks into Aumei gotta be careful of the hobby. Oh, no, Aumei. Where's the charge? It's coming. Aumei
Okay, now we can resume now. We can keep hitting 33. He's got to keep his distance though
Gotta be careful
It was diced here that it probably should have been
Guess the job though
Just got a key connecting on a couple of these kickoffs
Keep the net worth from ballooning that you get the tower top
A quick smoke off of this Ember, looking for some action with the vessel.
2,000 net worth lead for Tundra, looking to grow that with the pick off on mid where nothing to say.
Let's get a pop. Yep, there we go to C. The March, get him with the slide chains.
Instantly jump on him last though as is necessary pulling into the blood right.
Now go after FY2, FY with the TP, but they had the chances to help you.
You do not want to get sucked into this mid lane as extreme as this game.
Nothing good is going to happen for you.
It's time to start fighting heroes through December, around mid.
There's a free tier 2 that's going to open up that ancient area.
This game was honestly not going too bad for them, but suddenly,
off of that play, a lot of space for these heroes to operate and take away from the Tinker.
That's the name of the game.
It will be Blade Mail build up for 33 as well, and I like this. I mean, to me this is the build you should go for against the Winter Ranger here.
That was a nice shackle into Ravage Opportunity. A pick off on BCM.
Worth its weight in gold.
decent amount of calls for them sure but I don't think it's just purely about the
fact that they kicked this Emperor out of the game for a little while and people
can push out lanes and farm. That's the biggest kill by far. Also allows them time
to de-ward their triangle. Reaching some map control for the tinker. He's not
getting run at. These pick offs go so long. Such a far away in this game for a
stream. Quick spoke here, blink fat rider with the blade mail axe. And it's a little
tag team. Should be able to kill anybody on this map except the Tidehunter. I really like
This Windranger...
Oh, guest-raw!
Awkward stuff here.
They're gonna keep chasing, they might still be able to sandwich. They're coming in from behind.
They didn't expect that one!
Fortunately, Aumei will be able to skedaddle through the left-hand side and get out of there, but...
Thanks, Nova.
That vine in Tundra once again taking over this triangle area. They are not getting are the any creeps out of this triangle
It's kind of all going to Tundra. They're farming the sides of the map really well though. The tinker is not dying
You're accumulating a decent amount of net worth off him
So we'll kind of secure Roche for Tundra whenever they want to do it here. This could be a big deal
Why tanks are up sure but
He's out
His axe just broke him down Tide
Pretty good if you take the talents
Shackle doesn't latch there was a tree there, but I guess the angle wasn't quite right
I mean with the talents that's a 380 amers-duke that slows for 60% and reduces armor by six on a 7 second cooldown in an AOE
Yeah, thanks to the talent buff. It definitely goes. That's pretty good. A bit farther. Also with this line-up
It's gonna be obnoxious. Power shot, gush, and march of the machines always to push in lanes without showing a hero.
What a gank!
See ya.
Didn't even need the nose for a guy like that, but they're out there anyway. It's just like that the net worth is almost even.
These pickups.
Some could say it's a little sloppiness from Tundra, some could say it's a very good game feel, very extreme.
Probably a little bit of both, but it's keeping XG in this game.
And the longer this goes, their line-up comes online more and more.
Last though, got the chance.
Can't be casual about these objective defenses against the bad.
Every time R, he can jump and last hope anybody in this game, he's just gonna constantly take it.
Not much downside.
Time for Tormentor.
They have a charge on the axe, but I don't think you're going in on this one.
That's Daggin, but NTS?
Okay.
Interesting.
Almost feels more for the spell life field and I'm gonna bag in people down
Wait one okay goodbye that's the main right there
I think we can move on this tide, he's a big boy.
The team might be able to get here.
Is it worth? Okay, he dies pretty quickly here.
The charge is going to come through, hit him with the ravage.
He's still rummaging up for a little while though.
He gets what damage he can.
He even puts some anchor.
Maybe Aume can get enough damage pure, he races away.
The last throw came in in time.
Now the follow up call from 33 and the chop.
He goes down, nothing to say.
He pounced on this one though.
They've blown up most of what they have on the side of Tundra.
Tundra can't keep this fight going so it's a trade-off, Aume for 33.
Worth it for Tundra for sure, especially with how that was going.
That tide, he is just so tough to bring down, the Chen heals on top of it, soaks up everything.
Time to look at the re-engage, they do not want to let them walk this off after having
popped the Ravage and lost their Windranger.
They would be right about that in the jewels.
end up going down here after all yeah want to pick up great call to re-engage 33
surveying his domain
Ok man.
Man why am I just getting any love here?
FYI just incitabashes him.
This breaker has been a lot more effective than I would have thought.
Definitely finding Pugna will lot this game.
That is amazing, Fred.
That can happen every time you take it.
smoke as well looking to hunt somebody who wants to push out top but I think
Tundra's learned their lesson about being up here so you can gate bottom look
on the other ancient spot or just forfeit this smoke
but they were to go through gate BZM is there on the other side decent target
but they stick around hoping somebody will show they pushed in the lane with
with the mule in their active, stand charge, nobody shows, Tommy, it's on your back.
Gotta keep farming.
Basically, I just want to farm their triangle, then I want to push in this top kill on top and let Tinkered feel with everything on the bottom half.
Which is a fine farming game plan.
Because you can do that.
So kind of forces tundra into a spot where you can't send these solo heroes top
You're not gonna find anything bottom because it's just hanker goes pushing out this bottom half the map
Got the anchor on him
Opportunity beats me if you did it
combo
Ah!
Laser!
With the anchor on you! What can you do?
Nothing.
Staying there and looking like an idiot.
That's so funny!
That is a pretty nasty combo for him. He did not go BKB here.
So that is 100% effective.
They get the D-word out of the Roche?
Oh man, they think so?
It's so awkward too, because he...
He's still a decent amount of gold for away from his Sheevas.
and then he's gonna have to build up a full BKB.
Or just not getting good.
Man, that's an option.
I'm thinking the same thing.
He also has a single target ability he's trying to dodge, so he's gonna build the lincoln's for it.
He's trying to stop the last fill in the rupture.
Why mom buys a gym?
I usually signals when Hunter want to group up, just start forcing objectives, forcing
the fights.
If he could be on the bloodseeker as well, so definitely start thinking about just doing
Roshan here, making XG react.
I usually think of that as also like word.
They believe they are stronger at Xtreme, but there's no way they can really lose
a fight.
I don't know if that's true. It's not true scores are really far on the side of XG
They have a chin behind them with solar crest grease
Shiva's bought out for NTS. He was thinking about what he wants to buy just buys a full Shiva's and man to dump from a
They're hitting a really nice PowerPoint here
And they'll find the balance the pugna first excellent pick up the gym
Wonder if they're gonna see that eventually be able to pick that up xxs
Pure does have BKB if they want to commit for this one. 33 actually calls in there.
They're really going for it. XNX finally lifts through to the ravage, but it's none.
They go out, hit 33, D's gamble to charge, hits Pure. Pure. He needs to kill on Ame off of this one,
but the win run is making things hard. The focus fire, focusing him down, but Pure,
he gets out of distance. They get the chains into the silence, and Ame takes a lot of damage.
He's got to kind of chill a little bit. Yule Scepter stops Spearbreaker.
It does not stop nothing to say though as he looks for another one keeps throwing out the lasers
And there's not much BCM or pure can do to stop them now
No, without both you could be you're not re-engaging there
Maybe careful about lingering around these fights do you get charged into some laser damage? You're just gone
They bring down that tanky tide hunter
technically a favorable trade for tundra
Didn't really feel like it they didn't gain any map control off it read that Jim go
They recovered it I believe. Yeah, BZM got it. Which is very important because they
doubled down on the wards. Both wards got found anyway. So congratulations to
Ex-Nova. 416 gold for him off of one centric. That is nice.
This axe damage is just pitiful right now. 3-3 we'll have to find a way to
impact this game a little bit more than just aura's here they need some work
damage in the fight
you know as flax is watching this game he would be very split on one side there's
a win ranger on the other side there's an axe that doesn't go blink dagger
blade mail first you know you went at second third though it's got close enough
Okay, Wisdom Shrines were not Tundra's Forte in Game 1.
But Game 2, this one will go uncontested because FY's on the other side of the map.
So still a 1-1 split, Ex-Nil that denies the Invisurun away from Tundra.
There's the Shiva's finally dead, that took a while.
Not the greatest she was, you know, honestly, other than Magic Amp here.
I guess the heal reduction's also great, but...
Actually got the Den on the water on him.
No laser combo.
They could commit to doing Rose.
I think you are supposed to hear of your tundra.
You have to be wary about the fight.
Yeah, they do have ravage.
Tide is definitely strong around the pit, so is Tinker.
The Axe-XS has been very capable of just being able to walk in, and he doesn't die quickly.
Not to mention, the gust spam is going to be really a hit.
Look at R.E. though, looking on this ward, very sneaky ward.
Wait, you can't go on the tide.
No, you want somebody else here, you want the Tinker.
Or that Windranger.
I even hit the Chen if he walks up here.
Easy, I'm trying to draw them in.
But extreme keeping their formation, nobody's showing close enough to that ward for the Bat Rider to pound.
So if they go back to doing roadstops, nobody's gonna get close.
The Ravage hit on everything with the charge in the backlight!
Oh, it actually didn't complete!
Yulestepter stops, and that's big because look at that light ray!
White Mod, back up the full wall, FY dies in the call.
The initiation from Extreme does not work out for them.
Ari trying to play around the vision games away from Aume
and keeps himself alive because White Mod lives.
Now he heals up the Batrider.
Double buyback's gonna be used by Extreme.
And the commitment here, Pure, who's already used BKB
is now gonna be hit by the charge
and the second round of the fight
not working for Tundra.
Oh, White Mod!
Finally, he runs out of luck, will not be able to keep the Bloodseeker alive, dies alongside him.
Jump in after the Windranger, they'll get that much, but they're pretty pod-committed at this point.
Looks like they're gonna get wiped.
Crucial 5x for Extreme on that outpost, very tough fight with all the lives there.
That Ravage looked great.
Ended up being terrible.
No one was able to follow up on it fast enough to pugnasturvive.
Wasn't really what Ex-Nexus was looking for off that jump.
If they get roached, it's all worth it, and 100 of the heavy lifting there, no windrangers,
they're still gonna be able to clean up because it's so low.
They got visioned with the charge, they went in, it did another strike lands on the pugna,
you burst him, I think that's an okay jump.
Yeah, it's very different, X-Lex S took so much damage, I got wrecked, so the pugna.
And Almay spent this entire first half trying to kill a bat rider with Crimson
Guard, never even got him.
able to salvage this with some crucial buybacks.
It's this commitment right here, FY buys back, Pure tries to commit to killing Aume, and
he now he's wasted most of his BKB.
Last couple of seconds can be ruined by the charge.
When you're just pretty untouchable for this Bloodseeker, unless you rupture him, which
we just haven't really seen, maybe you need an early access game or MKB, but you need
One of the two to deal with him if you're gonna be focusing the Tidehunter.
And the fucking you chase into Extreme's positioning, Tinker's just gonna wreck you.
You're getting gushload, you're fighting into marches, someone's getting lasered.
There is now Dagon 5 available for NTS.
Took that Aegis.
As all made, it was not available to take it.
And he is powering up, turning into some Tinker Dota here.
Yeah, I wonder how different that fight looks if they just, they take those two kills.
And then they, you know, heal up the Pugman like heals off the neutral, so whatever, and then they just hit Roshan again, the same.
You have to come out to us.
Very different.
Instead of walking into those merchant machines, set up, right?
Very different fight.
Little lack of discipline on that, hurts Tundra.
Massively in this game, it's suddenly actually there up 8k.
Out of nowhere.
Yeah, win that fight, wipe Tundra, take Roshan, take Tormentor.
Now a lot of the gold, it did sacrifice some network on xxs and a lot of it went to the tinker
So the thing about tinker games is even when you're super far ahead
It only takes one lasso
Plus like null fire or something you just kill this guy as we saw yesterday
The tinker can always throw a game
You have to be very disciplined about your positioning how you take fights, but this is nothing to say tinker
He's pretty experienced on it. That helps a lot. The team is experienced playing with it and
This is the game plan for extreme, you know, this is
The game state they want to be in that 30 40 50 minute period where the tankers leading the pack
Control the fights is scaling like a bees pushing towards that lake in BKB. That's gonna make him an absolute monster
They got through the difficult part in my opinion, which was that early midgame where the ember was gonna shine
Just didn't come together for thunder.
They did not find enough pick offs, did not win enough of those teamfights.
Have to find a way to continue to scale here.
Even FY's getting farmed, Shadowblade, and completing a BKB now, almost level 20.
Speaking of levels, nothing to say.
Level 25 is right around the corner with that disgusting plus 40 intelligence.
That's good.
They're ready to fight.
Got everything they need right now.
Just somebody to jump.
Now is definitely a smoke tank right there.
My mom accepts his fate.
He gave me for the axe so it's a more consistent jump now.
Oh, this Tide is still fat man, he's going Stygianic.
Can you man up and kill him with this Bloodseeker if he has Stygianic plus the level 20 town?
He's just chain anchor smashing you as you're hitting him with the Blight Steel?
Probably not.
What the hell?
I don't think so either. That's gonna be awkward.
You can't kill the tie. You can't hit the windranger. You can't catch the tinker.
Well, I mean, he's crying a corner, I don't know.
It could be level 25 for the tinker here off the wisdom trial.
Juice!
That intelligence will give him the final boost to max out his Eureka.
Extra 7% item cooldown. It's kind of weird, like that 40, it's overkill, you know?
At least when it comes to Eureka.
Don't give some magic resist.
Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Always super stupid.
as he has BKB online, 6 second cooldown, Dagon 5, very balanced, you can get 52% Ganch resistance
before he uses BKB. Right. And with Sheevo's you have pretty high armor. This hero is,
he's really tanky. So you have to catch him, but then you also have to put a lot of damage
into him to bring him down. Of course, a lot of times the late game tinker is going to buy
back and just instantly re-enter anyway. That's what makes this hero terrifying in the laning.
So you can hit them for the tide. So these big late game scaling items are coming online for
extreme gaming making the fight terrifying for Tundra to enter. They did get a nullifier on
the ember that helps if you can catch some of these heroes for sure. But that is going to be
all on the Bat Rider. Ari is going to have to find some very clutch lassos here. Probably
trying to work towards you know BKB aggs or something in this game I think you
have to try and find tinker or win ranger I don't think lasso in one of the
supports opens up the fight enough anymore
unless you just want to lasso support kill that guy back off you can play that
style. Lex Nova is not going to go down easy. 2500 HP just as his. Then he's got all these
healed, guarding greaves, pipe, holy locket. Then he also has an S-Tune Spray. I mean you're
getting like 4000 effective HP out of this guy. He's massive. His granite gold is super good in
in this lineup. They're so tanky. Late game chen. Disgusting. They're just damage testing
Tundra. The Ember's kind of low damage. The Axe is potentially high damage, but it's
super dependent on how the call goes. And if you can't start bringing heroes low, Blood
Seeker, his thirst doesn't get activated. He's low damage as well. I mean, Axe in
this game is definitely low damage, right? Anything he calls, blade bales, doesn't
really do damage even the wind ranger she's not focus firing she's probably
not gonna do that much damage to herself put the me all your build it's a
little better it's not it's not super direct for him
do you dare go the high ground here all they just right now the smokes they
can run for the haste room get it like James Benta oh Ravage hits on a low
five XXS just caught them all once again they go for the kill in the
Pugged up at this time around, nothing to say we'll be able to burst him down here, BKB, and head for the hills.
The shackleshot still lashed him up for a little bit, but he's gonna get out.
FY, not lucky on the bashes, but charges after BZM, had a run to now.
Ooh, I'll play him there.
Five heroes ravaged, only one hero dies.
Looks like the earlier fight, the ravage is amazing, but the rest of the team was running away.
Then you have to U-turn it and go,
Oh, wait, okay, we take this fight.
Not really on the same page enough to capitalize on the amazing initiations from XXS here.
Still winning the fight.
I mean, all that he's balking out of this race, man, he's running for the hill.
Boom!
To hit him all, hit four heroes at the same time, I would say.
They're all in a ring as well. That was kind of beautiful.
That's the perfect ring.
I think Tundra were just instantly bailing on this one.
Lucky to get everybody out of there.
Yeah, they were. Some slick moves.
But Roche is up in 50 seconds and that is not a fight you can afford to just run away from.
You have to stand and fight at some point here if you're Tundra.
That's a perfect timing for extreme.
on the charge of the blood seeker you can't show like that my man no no you
can't know you don't have anything to stop that was what's that you're gonna
spear break or tinker you just showed so on a way charge no we're dead I mean
what that was just a straight up lack of focus from here it's no way around
Yeah, you don't have lings. You're not not getting charged.
Your only hope is that extreme think you're baiting there or something, but even then I think they're gonna charge you and see what's up.
Yeah, why not? Like if you can kill the Bloodseeker, like doesn't matter if it's a bait.
Not really. Get back on the breaker anyway.
Well, so much for waiting for Roche. Just go high ground with your auras.
4700 HP Tidehunter.
4,000 HP Tinker under that critical.
This plane of parrots dedicated to pure.
I'll take it and back up for Roche.
Wait, nope, they've got Ravage immediately as the lasso goes down.
They want to make sure they do not get dragged in the spear force into the axe.
Aume is kept alive by that.
And now, another 50 seconds till the Batrider is back up, maybe the Ravage is on cooldown,
but Tundra doesn't have the initiation of Falasso, what does that matter?
No mana on x-axis, that's the real debilitating factor here, and rather play for Roche than
throw a fight in Tundra's base.
Is this a gross you can afford to give up?
How's it feel like it?
I don't know, man.
At the same time, again, if they don't have a battle rider like you.
Yeah, it's too important for them to fight.
You're just gonna have to hope that extreme...
throw on the high ground.
Man, FYI is trying to get a Lincoln's.
Talk about luxury.
Is that better than your pocket?
I guess maybe for a CG and stuff like that, he'll have to go in.
Yeah, I was going to say, it's easier to use Link.
That's like, pre-emptively throw it on somebody.
I don't have to worry about the timing.
Take the ruptures.
It's kind of him.
He's a cool idea.
Actually, how long does Link get slumped?
14 seconds?
What?
Was that an action?
Transfers it to an allied unit for 14 seconds.
That's...
Oh, it's the cooldown.
I feel like that shouldn't be one-to-one like that, you know what I mean?
to stack. That was definitely broken. But yeah, Aghspear Breaker only lasts 6 seconds,
so. I think you... if you get stacks with Lotus though, it doesn't matter. Maybe it doesn't,
because they're not casting on you. That sounds broken if you could just run in with Lotus,
your pocket and redirect reflect everything like a vacuum but that probably doesn't work like it
getting ahead of myself
once you could hit 25 he took the blood right silence no he didn't come
took the max thirst and for a minute there now i know you did no why does he not want an
eight and a half second silence. I don't understand. It's an overwhelming amount of silence.
Bash it! Ooh! Looks like what we saw before, but he doesn't have to give you to get out of here.
Axe! Okay, last though. He has a charge. Yeah, he can, he's shadow blade charge, he's good.
I'm not gonna lie, that was incredibly underwhelming.
Oh yeah, you're losing racks by the way. Uh-huh.
If you are indeed, 33 could get the call on Amé, but he's got Aegis.
Yeah, would that do anything for you? He's going to call the Tidehunter Tramp, pull back. What a shackle!
Throw in at 33, Hicks BGM, the Ravage locks down four, somehow nobody's dead quite yet.
Amé is maybe over-committed here, as Pure... Okay, he's got to back out charge in.
Nice man to dodge there.
Pure dodges the hit from the spear breaker white one is the only one to die from all that yet again
Extreme game he hit this combination pure. Oh, no shackled into the call
Again, they kill anything from pure to keep alive. Okay, he's human back to the base
FY thought about going into the fountain to finish the job not quite nothing to say will go to the fountain
He'll go where FY can't and they'll close this out
There is nothing left here a call one final call from 33, but nobody else can buy back to join him
GG is called extreme gaming
2-0 Falcons and now 2-0 Tundra. What a ride for them. They are heating up. They are owning
As a fan favorite team and they are starting to look real scary in this lower bracket finding some synergy finding some better team chemistry
Nice drafts on the new patch
Tundra, they just kind of faltered in this tournament and just went out the new patch
not doing them any favors struggling to find some last picks that really carried their
weight.
I think the bloodsicker looked okay early, but the two biggest things that stood out
to me this game are one, Tinker gets way too tanky as an intelligence hero in the
late game.
Agreed.
Like you should not have an intelligence spellcaster that's supposed to be squishy
and he has 4400 HP.
Somebody make that make sense to me.
2 or 4th highest overall attribute gain in the game.
How the hell does pure not have an MKB in this game?
But he wants to zoom!
Zoom, zoom!
I refuse to believe you can play this game as any carry without MKB here.
You're against Laser?
You're against Windranger with Evasion?
Who the hell are you hitting in this game?
I don't see it all.
So...
To me, this pick does not work without MKB allowing you to man up on people.
I just missed Tundra's vision on this one, but actually...
Playing to their line-up strengths for sure, that's right extreme gaming and working their way through this lower bracket
Don't envy any team who has to match up against them because they have built up some serious momentum
Well then I've got some bad news for OG fans because that is going to be their next opponent
Well, I should know it'll be the winner of OG versus party vision
That'll be Xtreme's next opponent, so it could be either of them.
For right now, though, regardless, Xtreme continue their hot streak
that they already established earlier today.
They did get knocked down to lower bracket, so it's not all roses
because they got knocked down by Team Spirit 2L,
but they have recovered admirably in this lower bracket journey.
Is there Xtreme?
No, absolutely not, but to me it's kind of crazy.
The, like, switch up that XG has gone through
In such a short amount of time, obviously the patch helps a lot, but I will say Tundra in this game
they looked a lot better than in game 1 because they were actually ahead for quite a long time in this game.
But there's always this, when you play against specific players, they're going to play different heroes.
And Tinker is just, it's a hero not that many players have a good read on, and I don't blame Tundra.
I think they got kind of home-fired this game.
Not just that, I just feel that they made so many good and small moves on extreme gaming
where this game could have snowballed out of control.
But they found really good smokes behind Fyre Spiritfaker charges.
They found really key pick offs on Bloodseeker a couple of times that brought them back into the game.
Because at some point it was looking like such a rough game for Aame.
Like, you got kicked out of that bottom lane, Tar gets taken early, you know, he helps them mid lane, dies at the power room.
It didn't feel that easy, but they created opportunities for this Wyrnranger to come back into the game.
And they held their defensive formation so well.
And because of all of these reasons, we saw them get to this late game point.
Yeah, and they had a couple of moments too where they just backed each other up when things were looking spooky like tight almost died that one time
There's like a chain heal channel T
They they were consistently covering the wind ranger if they got whoever got ruptured they're gonna cover them
So I just think they did a better job in executing some of the team fights in the blood seeker kind of fell flat
And the end at the final score screen it did the least damage out of everything on the whole team
Which is a little surprising to me
He went for the silence facet which makes your blood rage do attack speed and raw damage instead of attack speed and spell
So for a battlefield build it makes sense, but like it did not feel that impactful
We was like rupturing the big boys, but then they just weren't dying afterwards
So yeah, I agree with Avery also towards the end
He said that he ended the game without an MKB against laser and windranger that is not good
Also the battlefield over Mjolnir not gonna say I'm the expert
But feel like if you're gonna like your head you're playing with auras going into the fight with Mjolnir
It's pretty good
It would also give you like the attack speed that then sooner or just more nice with the other items
you want and some but you strike yeah exactly and but maybe this is just again
you know the enemy team picks some different heroes to have some tight
they have some tinker you feel like your options get like really narrowed down
then you go blood seeker you're not super comfortable it's a new patch bad
things can happen to be fair it was very hard to find the last pick it was
there so I appreciate tundra's creative vision it's just that extreme
gaming are so good right now it feels like they're doing so many different
things well like they've made it here through the slower bracket playing a
lot of tempo and they did that beautifully but also they can play defensive and play for the
late game too this is what they are known for they're an exceptional defensive team and that's
what they pulled out in this game so if they're mastering all of these multiple styles of Dota
they're going to be really scary to go up against tomorrow. Yeah because I think especially from
just like like I really think they played poorly like a week ago so it's not just like the
new patch and the different heroes I think they really stepped it up like individually
how they're playing and also what Mira said like the small things like hitting those smalls
If I watched him a week ago, they would have used one hero different, or one hero shows less on the map and suddenly it's so obvious.
Or they would use the wrong hero and the smoke, and then suddenly you can't get the kill.
And all of these things together, woo!
I do have that clip of that smoke gank that was so huge, so I'd love to show that in one of the teamfights, I think, is what I requested.
Here it is, they're at 19 minutes or down 2k, they're starting to get behind Windrangers' bottom core network here.
And they smoke all the way into enemy tri-camp, committing two cores and a spearbreaker to lock that down.
And then as the fights continue, and they're taking these here, they're just backing each
other up successfully here.
Look at that.
The laser plus the anchor gives them a really crucial kill on a hero who's supposed to be
like unkillable.
They had one of their many good raviders here.
Unfortunately, the spear breaker wasn't able to follow up, and the fight got a little
bit weird with Pied to the North getting ruptured and life-drained, which was kind
of annoying, but the buyback from spear breaker helps to cure the kill on the
bloodseeker, I believe, as they elongated these fights here.
Nothing to say it was in a perfect position just on the high ground during the march on the sheen's saving the win ranger
Just ended up being a little bit too much for Tundra to fight through because it was just a little hard for me
It kills I think one thing their their lineup was lacking actually was just easy burst damage
I mean pugna can do some life drain, but ember is like a slow-patient killer
That right is a slow-patient killer axe can be bursty
But if they had like some let's it wasn't a better hero, but like Alina or something you rupture a guy
You lean a blast him he dies bloodseeker gets a heal bloodseeker then goes in the next target
And they just had a lot of trouble getting through that first person
I think on the tundra draft which is a bit unfortunate for them
They should have known what they're getting themselves into they are the ones who have shown the prowess of tide hunter in 7.40
and
Technically they also were the first to pull the ripcord on tanker not that I would ever
Consider BZM to be more of a tanker player than nothing to say
but still, these were two heroes that Tundra are well familiar with.
No, for sure. And that's why I also like I question maybe not so much the hero pick
because I think it was hard to find it, but the itemization like when you do then go for this last pick
And I think so your items don't really counter the Windranger if you don't have an MKB
I think your items don't really help you that much with dealing with the thinker
So then all this Bloodseeker gave you was a good laning stage in some tempo
Which I understand but then it has to do more and pure has some off-games
I would say that this is one of them and this is just something you know that you have to learn from and that's it
I would also argue you just don't try to kill Tide at all
Because he's got the new talent at 20. He's gonna get anchor smashed off
He built the the Satanic that came he didn't buy life steal for a long time
But like I feel like every player's grabbing it
So like you shouldn't try to man up and kill the tide in this like crucial moment because if you don't have BKB
You are gonna get anchor smash life steal and then it hard counters what bloodseeker wants to do
Which is all in and kill a hero. So he needs to hit a backline
and then you probably won a Beijing.
Tide stocks have gone up so much these last few days.
I checked one of us again today and it's went up even further by an extra percent.
So yesterday was 6% increase, today it's 7% increase.
And it's going to keep going up.
What's going on here?
People now fully understand, I think, the 20 talent with the life still
and they understand how much it is a fight to the death I can't die.
It's broken.
Yeah.
Like, it's broken.
It was already good before.
Like, we saw the axe.
I really also liked that XXS did that. If you build Raja items, you don't really help your team that much
So you just help your team to have space on the map, delay the game, you have Tinker, you have Tide
It was super good, but I don't think this hero really needed a buff
But either way, here we are. You know, he got at this 20 talent like you're saying
It's broken as hell. It's super OP
He had a really clear understanding of what the timing was that they were playing for
And he didn't do the bait of buying an aura and forcing anything
He just sat back, gushed the waves, anchor-spashed them, took the farm that he could, and waited
for opportunities for Tundra to mess up, because you could really tell they were feeling the
pressure of having to be the team to make the moves.
They were the ones playing against Tinker, they were the ones playing against the clock,
in a sense, and X-TrimGaming just baited them out.
They were happy to just take what they could if there was an opportunity to smoke.
They would, otherwise they were sitting back and farming, and Tundra were just running
into them.
Also, a lesson learned, I guess, about the viability of Bloodseeker, because
There is a world where we're like, oh yeah, the pure damage on the shard.
This is a great way to cut down Tidehuncher, the zero that everyone's so afraid of.
In this case, we, I think, learned that it's not enough.
Well, it's hard counters it.
Blober hard counters it.
So there's also two things he didn't go ahead.
He didn't buy it.
And I think he bought it three minutes before they lost.
So I don't really like it should be good against Tide.
It's pure damage.
He's high HP, but also what Perch said, like, if Tide gets to a state
where your MO is, we can't kill Tide.
It's like he becomes Exodia, if you don't kill this hero first, like he ravages, he's gonna be the frontliner, always he anchors smashes, it shouldn't be that easy for him to reach, you know, to draw that hand.
I wanted to find the Bloodseeker idea, maybe not inside of this draft, but I think they're onto something, the Bloodseeker vs Tide with Windranger as the carry too, because Rupture counters Windranger, that was a first pick.
I think it really was Tinkerer that just threw the wrench into the plan to slow down their Ember as well,
because Ember had to buy a Melifier instead of his natural item progression too,
and it just made everything fall apart.
It really felt like this Tinkerer is what made this draft difficult to play against.
The beauty of having nothing to say on your team, you're able to whip that out confidently
and know that you have the clock on your side without having to always rely on Aame,
being the be all end all player on your team.
Nothing to say can also be the final boss as well and excess he's gotta be the most reliable offlane player of all time at this point
Yeah, every time I watch him
He does not have bad games. He can play all kinds of styles and in games where it feels like
Everything's falling apart. He's always doing well always has good network. I don't know how he manages it
He's just like a clean player
He like cast the spells like different than everybody else by a little bit where I feel like when I'm watching him
He does something like just slightly cool
I'm like, oh, that's smart and I like that does happen with other players
But it feels like it happens a lot with him. He's just been like that for so long
I mean this this guy is the goat like already during ti he did like a lot of cool stuff
I even at some point saw a mar there was like this trend of going load as linkins
And I think xxsc was the one that kind of started that it was really good against like the dooms or the batters getting like
Good timings on this so when you make others super good players deviate to what you are doing
Trust me. You're doing the right thing. Yeah, I also want to talk about a fly a little bit because
Because, again, we talk about switching, thinking with him, and those are big shoes to fill,
but he's really gotten so good throughout the course of this tournament.
Like, these smokes that we talked about that needed to connect for XG to do well,
he was leading these smokes.
It was his calls and his idea of where to go on the map.
You could see that he was spearheading it.
And a lot of, if these pickups hadn't happened, we really would have seen a different game,
because that one ranger at the start was struggling.
Perhaps instead of talking about him, we can talk to him, so we get an opportunity to speak to FY with Jin helping out to translate.
FY, it's been a while since I've gotten to see you, so I wanted to know, what's your past year has been like?
How's it been adjusting back to professional Dota after basically 12 months off the competitive scene?
I haven't seen you for a long time, and I haven't interviewed you for a long time.
Can you tell us how you've been doing in the past year?
Now that you've returned to your job, how have you been doing?
I've been feeling quite comfortable in the past year. I'm resting at home.
I feel like I can come back to the training after a long time.
You can also swap.
The last year, I spent a lot of time at home rest and spend time with my family.
As for adjusting back to Prototour, I've been playing pubs and I think you should have to play more and you get back to falling.
How about your role specifically? Do you feel like position 4 has changed much in the past year, or your pub experience is keeping your skills sharp?
Sure.
Well I have been playing a lot of pubs, keeping my skills sharp and I guess I do have to put
in more work into watching some of the replays out there and trying to merge some of the meta
play styles into my current play style.
You think maybe you can start merging some of your stuff into the meta because you're
the Rubik Goat FY and even after the patch seems like the hero is not that viable.
What is Rubik's need to return back to pro player?
Rubrik currently is just way too low in terms of damage for a support, being low damage just feels like much lower impact than he needs to be to be meta.
Fragik, we're just hoping that it gets fixed soon. I know that you have been taking the past year off to chill, but you've also been taking the past year off to stream quite a bit.
And I know that you, maybe, and Chalice have a bit of a brotherhood of players that the
Chinese community considered to have retired too soon.
Do you miss your streaming brothers at all, or are you happy to be back to pro?
And then in the past year, you are not only resting at home, you are also on live broadcast.
I want to ask you if you miss your live broadcast brothers, or do you feel that your home is directly on the island now?
If I play, I won't think about these things, I just focus on playing good games.
Well, I'm a pro professional player now, so I can't really spare a lot of emotions or
time and thinking about a pass. It's all about looking towards the future. So that's
what I'm focused on right now.
Wow. All right. It's a good competitive attitude to have then. Sounds like I will let you
think about the future of your next matchups then. FY and Jin, thank you so much for
joining me. I want you both to rest because that is it for the series Extreme
gaming, get themselves a victory over Tundra and FYI is laser focused on the future. Don't
worry about what happened in the past. I mean...
What is streaming anyway?
Yeah, do Liquid have a doctor at their facility or what?
I think they might need one.
Maybe it's like the smoking room is the practice room at the same time.
That sounded like worse than a smoking cough.
Yeah.
Whatever it is, those plays are sick that they're dropping in this Dream League Season 27.
So whatever is working for them, keep the good times rolling I guess, because today and yesterday,
it's been a marked difference from the experience we saw a week ago, as you've been attributing to
yourself. No, for sure. Like, they're just leveling up themselves. We also heard him say,
sometimes we just have to play more, need to remember, he didn't play for a long time,
Dota changed, Dota is not easy if you take a break. Hold 12 months.
Trust me, in Dota terms, that's a lot, that's like years. Sure. So, yeah, I'm still
I'm still giving him the benefit of the doubt because I was not very convinced recently, but he's winning me over.
He's won me over?
What does he have to do to prove himself to you?
Keep winning. Keep doing it.
Win a tournament. Win a dream league.
I'm giving criticism. I don't like his interview answers. Very boring.
Give me something.
Get on!
I don't like to talk about the past.
Don't talk about a fly god like that.
I'll fight for him.
Come on.
I'll feel a spirit to charge you into the abyss.
I'll only be sad he didn't pitch for a stronger Rubik buff.
Just more damage.
Tell me like zero cooldown spell steal or something like that.
That's what he needs.
It is sad when like an iconic player can't play his iconic hero.
For sure.
Hopefully, you know, I stroke he's watching because I mean Rubik's a fun hero,
but need us to say he's he's in a dumpster.
Yeah, maybe he just needs like high damage heroes in the meta
so that he can steal their high damage skills and be like, I can do this better.
There you go.
Everything's you tell you, I don't know.
What do you get still from Windranger?
True.
If you can steal kill shot fast at all, that'll be good.
And now we're talking to both. Can't you I think you do still fast and sound you can but they're not killing it. They're just yackling
They're not even strong power shot the farm. They're just yeah, yeah, that's thing shackleshaw creeps the bomber slark supports
What are you stealing?
Pounce well his MMR
Hide hunters though
Take the ravage to gosh could be a big please I
think very big the hero that
can come out. Even if he's not meta, if there's a really good Rubik game, the Rubik teams will
look fitting it.
I need like an enigma, an earth shaker, a jikiro, a storm spirit, weaver, and then
now we've got a good game.
In the meanwhile though, they're winning with the heroes that they are picking, such
as the spearbreaker that we just saw, which brings them further in the bracket. Let's
Let's take a look at where we are now in Dream League Season 27's playoffs.
We have a lower bracket final contestant entering the arena because Xtreme get their 2-0 limiting
Tundra eSports from the tournament and their opponent will be the winner of OG vs. Parry
Vision.
These are only a few of the teams that are left because over in the upper bracket
we've got Team Yandex taking on Team Spirit.
This is encouraging to say, Yandex conquered their demons from Chengdu by knocking Tundra
down to the lower bracket, should be good times now.
Don't worry about the fact that Spirit of Gun entirely undefeated in this playoff bracket
so far.
Don't worry about it.
Minor detail.
Yeah, they're pretty damn good.
No, don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Neera back to you.
Don't worry about Laurel Prime.
Let me think about it.
Laurel Prime.
Laurel Prime.
Don't worry about him.
collapse, win the lane and own you. Everybody expects you to order a carry. Nobody expects
Prime Laurel coming out with the big net worth wins leading the charge. That's where Spirit
are at. Yandex have to address the Laurel Prime issue that is being created, the Stream
League. They do not, they're in danger. It's going to be difficult to do because
Yandex has had some games where they look really solid and other games where they look
kind of iffy. And it's like Spirit, like you said, it's Laurel Prime time. They're
here. Definitely too, but to me I feel like Yandex, they're better online than
That gives him a bit of a buff. Yeah, I think at the last blast, um, they weren't too hot. No, absolutely
It will be hard. Now we're gonna have Chira senior CJ. Yeah, yes
Rising to the occasion to face off against Laurel because all these teams are hoping to scoop up as many points
In the ESL Pro Tour as possible as we journey to the eSports World Cup
point distributions are getting thinner and thinner because more and more teams
are getting eliminated taking their points taking their club earnings taking
their prize pool and going home because we are approaching now just the final two
days of a dream league season 27 it's been a hell of a journey going through
this Swiss group stage this playoff bracket so now a Saturday and what's
happening on this Saturday let me show you we are going to have a three
Series starting out with that lower bracket elimination series of a party vision versus OGE sports purge who you got
OG looked really solid that I feel like they are on top of it
I mean they were playing it's a weaker team over as pros. So maybe that's giving me recency bias
But also nine classes under control now. He's picking normal asheros. That's true occasionally flexing which is still valuable
I don't know. I don't know who's gonna win that one, but probably OG
He really can't tell.
But that's good news, because you have to tune in then.
Nobody knows, it's going to be a crazy one.
It will be, and then we are going to have this Yandex versus Spirit showdown,
which thankfully neither of these teams will be eliminated.
One of them will win and then get to move on to the best of five grand final,
and then the loser is going to have to face off against the winner of Extreme versus the previous series,
version of the OG series, which stylistically, did we see OG vs Extreme during the Swiss group stage?
Because I feel like that would be a very fun matchup to watch.
I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure.
I don't know if they played. I feel like OG are maybe slightly worse than Parry,
but I like the matchup when it comes to how the teams played.
Yeah.
And yeah, my eyes are also on whoever wins this against XG later in the day.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't think they've played because in an interview Xnovus that they really
want to play against OG because they like how they've been playing and they actually took the win ranger
from OG pre-patch so they have watched them closely. It'll be a good match up if it gets there too
but if it's not OG and it's Paris as well that's going to be a very good match up too
because both of these teams play for the late game and they also play for the early game.
And that is a Humberg lower bracket final rematch if I'm not mistaken.
Was it?
I don't know. Wait a minute. I should have got work done.
Yeah, let's just say yeah.
We have a piece together, we have a piece of memory here.
It's probably a third of course.
I thought it was a third.
Anyway, they did.
You're the gold, you're right as always.
I really hope that's the case with someone else.
I'm not giving credit to you in third place,
but you know, you're all fun to watch no matter who you are.
I love watching Dota, I love watching in here with all of you.
I hope you've been watching it and enjoying it as well
because that is it for us today on this Friday of a Dream League.
days remain you're not gonna want to miss the weekend of Dota and the weekend of the remainder of Dream League season 27
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