Oh, baby, take me there, baby.
Oh, baby, take me as I am.
Oh, baby, oh, take.
Yeah, take me, take me, and I'll live
We've been counting down the days Been riding through the days
We'll take it to the graves Be the unstoppable
I'm coming up, I'm coming up Unstoppable
Don't let it drop, don't let it get We're going on slow
I've got it up, I've got it up Unstoppable
Don't let it drop, don't let it drop Don't be the unstoppable
Stop the show
Whoa, oh, oh, oh, pop the blows
Oh, blow, oh, go Knocking on the main stage door
God, oh, oh, I feel the applause, feel the roar
I'm coming up, I'm coming up unstoppable
Time's running down, time's running down
We're burning on slow
I'm coming up, I'm coming up unstoppable
Time's running down, time's running down
We'll be unstoppable
Side-crossed eyes
Side-by-side
We'll do this one more time
One more time
I'm coming up, I'm coming up
I'm unstoppable
Don't let it jump, don't let it jump
You're born as you are
I'm coming up, I'm coming up
I'm unstoppable
Don't let it jump, don't let it jump
You need me, I'm unstoppable
I'm coming up
I
Know rise see it rise
I've got all the we could ever want so come with me
Let's be the Indian
New light inside, so alive on this highway, living on, sent you free, it's all here in sight.
One more step into this open ocean, and we're gonna forget all that we made of our foundations.
Toilet, run away, we're going on this is our team
Now all our lives are ours to take
Toilet, run away, we're going on this is our team
Now all our lives are ours to take
The world is ours to save
New horizon, open eyes on the future and everything that we could be
Take my hand, so take my hand now
One more step into this open ocean
And we'll never forget
All that we've made of our foundations
For you, I'll wake
With your light, this is our day
Now all I have is ecstasy
For you, I'll wake
With your light, this is our day
The world is ours to take
And who can solve the problem
And never fall again
How I used to be, was so good for me In my mind all the time, though I might turn
Now that I can see your other side of me
You came along, made me strong
I've waited such a long time
And I just can't believe this
Oh Lord, I hope I don't look again
Don't want it to stop when you know you've got a good thing
The mix would feel fine
Wherever it leads me, you know it's all fine
I never thought that this could sweep me up and down
I don't want it to stop when it's feeling as good
Whenever you're around, my heart begins to thaw
Oh, I know you take it slow, no way to stop this feeling
But every single day, whenever you're around
In this place, there's a space where I'll be waiting for you
And I just can't believe there's new love around, yeah
I don't want it to stop when you know you've got a good thing
That makes me feel fine
Wherever it leads me, you know it's all fine
I never thought that this could sweep me off the ground
I don't want it to stop
No, I don't want it to stop
I don't want it to stop
When this feeling is good
Feeling is good
Feelin' as good
They thought I'd never make it
But here I am on top of the world
They thought I'd never make it
But here I am on top of the world
On top of the world
They thought I'd never make it
But here I am on top of the world
They thought I'd never make it
I'm so afraid of love
I'm sorry, I'm sorry
I'm sorry
There were four louts, been up down, and I blame myself
There's no doubt
Rebecca now
Knows why we fell
The land of shame
Holdin' on for somethin'
The pretty sky is comin'
We're still here
A world filled with laughs
Yeah, I feel alive
There's something we don't need to understand
Oh, I feel the love, yeah, I feel the love
Let's just go, no, we don't need a kind
Cause I feel the love
The world of scenes where we believe the new ourselves
I don't know
There's one thing we don't need to understand
Oh, I feel the love
Yeah, I feel the love
Let's just go, no, we don't need a plan
Cause I feel the love
Oh, I feel the love, yeah, I feel the love
It's something we don't need to understand
Oh, I feel the love, yeah, I feel the love
Let's just go know we don't need a plan
Cause I feel for love
Oh my dear, there's something what's safe in here
Oh my love, if we just rise above
By staring at the sun, five, four, three, two
You shine a light, and that is the real thing
That is the real thing
You shine a bright, and that is the real thing
Oh, it's a real thing
You shine a thing
You shine a light
You shine a bright
In every single way
You shine a light
Yeah, it's a real thing
Oh, it's a real thing
Oh my gosh
Believe me, I am
sincere
When I say, well, I'll be a volunteer
I'm staring at the sun
Five, four, three, two, one
You shine a light
It's the real thing
Yeah, it's the real thing
You shine a light
Yeah, it's the real thing
No, it's the real thing
You shine a light You shine a light
You shine a bright Be every single day
You shine a light Yeah, it's the real thing
Oh, it's the real thing You shine a light
It's the real thing, yeah, it's the real thing You shine bright, yeah, it's the real thing
Oh, it's the real thing
You shine a light, you shine a light You shine a light, you shine a light
In every single way, you shine a light There's no real thing, no stupid thing
You shine a light
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've been waiting a long time.
Just longing for a glance from you.
Yeah.
A chance to look in those big brown eyes.
No telling what my heart could do, hey
When we met, I sure knew
It felt as good as it could be
In that moment though, it felt so good
I wondered why you'd notice me, ooh
If you gave me just a little time
It would sure leave my torn-walled mind
Don't tell me, don't tell me
That you don't feel the same inside
Don't tell me, don't tell me who
These are feelings that I ought to hide
I don't care where you came from
Just tell me where you want to go
If there's a chance to be together
That's all I really need to know
Is it real or making it mean
That keeps me thinking of you
If you've got time to walk with me
I'll show you how my heart is true
And here I stand, waiting for you
Tell me baby, what I gotta do
Don't tell me, don't tell me
That you don't feel the same inside
Don't tell me, don't tell me who
These are feelings that are all a-high
Don't tell me, don't tell me
That you don't feel the same inside
Don't tell me, don't tell me why
These are feelings that are all a-high
What the fuck is going on?
What's happening?
We go without a doubt, we're high and low
Oh yeah, we can't hide now
Woo-hoo! Ha-ha-ha-ha!
You and I
Wake attached to the sky
I see how far these wings can fly
And as the clouds take back
We can get in back time
I'll be hiding love
My mind is looking high and low
Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh...
Why do you don't let me miss the world?
I, I, I don't know
What they do to me
This is a work
Bright lights, big city
Sunshine's my town, I'm ready
I've got your
Come see me now
Uh-uh, tan skin
So heavy, can't wait, hey baby, where you be?
In your soul, it ties to me, ah, ah, ah
I need to know
What are you doing?
This is the way
Ah, ah, ah, I need to know
What are you doing?
This is the way
I need to know
Where did he die?
Yes, I know
I need to know
Where did he die?
Dream League Season 29 is brought to you by DHL.
And Checks.
Hey Jankers, whatcha doing?
Ah, just fishing.
Can you knock?
Can't really catch anything.
Oh, have you tried Rage Paging?
Okay, let me try, let me try.
I believe support should get no gold for killing wards.
What?
Oh that worked! Oh my god that worked! Falcons it's fun to watch! No! That really worked!
Welcome! You are watching Julie season 29! You just listened to the amazing Pocchampanas who will be accompanying us all day!
And we're here to talk about a lot of the things but first we're gonna introduce you to Jenkins, which you already met
Oh, he picks no fogs. Good morning. What are you doing?
Mr. A little bit at the start of the days on the mend on the mend are you how much did you sleep tonight last night?
Uh, I actually got six hours. So is that really that's very good. That's very good
I've gotten by far in the last for him a small six is good. Yeah, so yeah, honestly
I wonder how you do.
Oh, I'm good. I'm looking forward to the day.
I mean, I could just check with you guys.
It's kind of crazy that nobody is out.
Yeah.
Like, we've got just one game left for all the teams to play,
and nobody is out.
Like, that doesn't normally happen, I feel like.
And usually it is.
But normally there's like one team that's like,
right, they're gone.
Yeah.
But everybody's still got a chance to stay in the competition.
Normally there's at least one team that has shit to bet.
Just like there's been one guy who has shit to bet
with the fishing competition that we have got going on.
I think that's what's going on.
I think it's you, I think it's you, man.
No, I actually don't think it's, fuck,
I think you're no longer left.
You're not at the bottom.
Wait, who did worse than me?
Well, we are, we're gonna check the,
the well is calling for new contestants first.
Check is, you're the contestant.
Oh, thank you.
Your name has disappeared off the leaderboard
and this is your chance to arrive.
I find these cows, by the way, very uncanny.
They are very uncanny and no one is talking about it.
They are singing cows!
They have way too much fun at this place.
Look! It's sad!
How was that sad?
There was a sad guy! Look! It looks sad at you!
Look at his!
I feel like more than these guys!
Don't put baby rage.
Can I like game the system?
Is it the time?
3, 2, 1!
I already started it.
I think my hook is not positioned good.
good that's what you need to know yes it's impossible the way we got here
come the excuse it wasn't possible and I did it I'm vibe with you thinking you're
cheating you can change the way your hook is I would hold this well you're
Actually the loop was not good for you. Yeah, it's fine. That's that's true
But this is much harder than than it looks
You know you're supposed to hold the fishing rod at the bay. I'm telling you if this isn't the adult somebody has
Somebody has sabotaged me. Yeah, what was he dealing with? Like seriously look at this. This is after I would be helping
No, you can twist it turn it turn it why don't you fall over wait? I'm gonna
Unfall over it. Is that allowed? No, it's all over when it falls. Did you hold it over? No, I didn't have all over this
Man, they helped. Yeah. Oh wait
Yeah, oh this is my moment. You're making it very much so stressful for me. Yeah, you can change your hook
Look, can I change your I already tried to change the hook somebody from production came in here and sabotage this
This is great. Oh
You actually fixed it. Okay, this should be easier
That's how much you got it
I am redeemed
Oh so close you're so close you are so close
What is it doing?
You are stokos.
Oh my god, come on.
This is, you got this.
No, it, come.
Oh my god, Jenkins.
I'm telling you, it's not possible.
Is it possible?
Oh wait, I'm gonna fix too.
Lewis, what is this?
Lewis, it's named Lewis.
Yeah!
That was more than enough.
That was very difficult.
Alright, I'm talking to somebody after this.
That's workplace harassment.
Take the thing out of the oven.
Yeah, go read the letter.
Am I in last?
It's a real class all over again.
We'll get to the board.
Pollution of the well, I threw the blowback in.
Our flowers need the sun.
Where did the flowers go?
They're on the table.
Oh, lovely!
Well, I can't believe our rose is still standing.
Our flowers need the sun.
Unbox your kit and paint your most inspired design
on these sun catchers to hang around the studio
and make the set sparkle.
Oh, that's nice. Sparkling with the painting.
Yeah, we like painting.
I think we need Blossoming Bob though.
Because we didn't get anything yet.
Blossoming Bob!
To the rescue!
We just beat him on this one.
go. Blazing Bob.
Mary's blood.
Blue guys.
He is from the next big ball.
You guys look like a blaze.
Excuse me.
Thanks Bobby.
Thank you Bob.
We got four kits guys.
Oh.
Here you go.
Thank you.
I'll hand them out.
There you go.
Sound the line.
Here you go.
Thank you.
Dreamy Suncatcher.
Oh I like this.
I actually really love this.
Oh it's like a dreamcatcher but then for the sun.
This is nice. Oh, and it comes in so the front picture
This is an example and it comes in in completely white now
And then with the with the things and you can you can make it into this one
That's kind cool. I've got a very important question
All the lines is there is there people are they does the second shift have their own?
Or do we have to share?
There they are!
Oh nice!
All yours guys.
Uh, in the meantime, Jenkins, we're going to make a mess with this.
No, it's not me!
It's Penn.
Are they?
I think you squirt them.
I think they might be like some squirt.
Squirting?
What?
I'll read it.
I think it's actually like painting.
I think you squirt.
But then you need a brush, no?
I don't know how to do this.
But fill the suncatcher.
You have to do it the other way, right Owen?
Look!
This side or you pour it in and then let it set right what yeah, right?
Cuz if you do the other side yeah, cuz it's gonna leave this fill it which implies
There's some sort of let me try place to be filled
In the meantime you want to see the lead let's read this
I don't I read the instruction. I don't think I'm ready for that
I know we're looking for the leave it fill this on catch with any colors you like let design drive for 24 hours
Okay, we're out. There's a long string. What do you think about the leaderboards here, buddy? Look at that. I
I
Got you did better than fuck. I got what attached that was what I swear we're there longer for two minutes and 27 seconds
It just felt like a lot of me. I got scammed sort of it
But I thought I used these it's okay, but it also says it's beautiful five plus years, so I should be out of
Not good sign so
Fiery day five years at the start. Do we have to touch them first? I'm just gonna do this one thing
No, I think you can play that you do them step. Yeah, okay good. I don't think I'll get on this. How do you make this stuff?
How many are there supposed to be? We can do our own colors. I don't want to match
Oh, yeah, I got it. I want to do pink and purple. Can I have somebody's pink and purple? I'll trade colors
I'm using this one
But you don't know yet how dense it needs to be so it's hard to judge me
Yeah, you might need to use that much. I still want to trade colors
Well, you might maybe help me out later, but I don't know yet. I'm not a very
lucky person, but I'm a lucky person. In the meantime, we are here. No, there's
supposed to be five. Shoot, I dropped one. Oh, no. He's gone forever. Oh, no, there it is.
Do I have a cough button? Yeah, you do. If you got one of these, my button is the cough button.
Do I have a coffee button?
I don't have a coffee button.
We have gotten a lot of games over the last few days.
We have.
And yesterday's games, so actually the day before that it was a lot of throws.
Yesterday's games, a lot of them went to distance.
And they were pretty cool.
And I think one thing we are probably, well, maybe are going to see today.
Yesterday we had a lot of series.
series and this series in particular every single series had a snap mid every
single series snap mid lost is this gonna be a recurring theme perhaps it
looked pretty good in a lot of the almost all the games it was kind of popping
off I mean I'm kind of biased I was saying I really like it right now but I
think there is definitely gonna be the scenarios which if you want it versus the
melee right stop the lane but it's still yeah I don't know I
Yeah, when we saw it yesterday, it was very much not against Melee. It was like Zeus invoker.
Invoker, it just didn't look good.
Yeah, but then the game that he did do well was versus Pango.
And he first blooded him, completely destroyed the game, like, yeah, just took over everything.
I get what you're saying, because I know you're a big believer in this, we've talked about it a lot in the green room.
The amplified damage, you know, in the, if you're close to them, you can go for the Sheva's Guard build.
You're saying radiance is even okay. That's the meme bill. That's our meme up. I mean it's a meme bill
But it sounds kind of good the idea is there if all things is good then you know it's not it's not good
Because it's a meme because you can't play in the world
But uh, yeah
I played three games of go to love I was here two of them with Owen one solo
I
I lost every game with Owen and I won my solo, I don't know.
Doesn't mean save the one you see.
Those would be fair, I don't think you built ratings in any other game.
No, that's the main problem.
Uh-oh.
I was there in X2.
Wait, did you press that?
I just not met it.
I did.
And I did, I had the GPK feeling.
Yeah, you should.
I did good.
My KDA was like 13 to 3, 18.
But we lost the game.
Okay.
Did you do magic build or right build?
Did you go for magic?
No, I did magic.
That's probably, like, try the, try the right, I think there's games where you can, you can do both, but I think you can do this, uh, Specialist Array, Datalys.
I mean, it's quite, 35% extra damage, like, that's it.
35% and it, the thing I think a lot of people kind of look over as well, this isn't massive, but you get 5 extra range per level.
That the damage, and it works.
So at like level 20, you have an extra 100 range, that this bonus damage is, 35% is applied.
We are also in the meantime, by the way, seeing some VP game-religion action.
Oh, yeah, we're up in there.
Well, game one, it looked very strong for VP.
And then something clicked for Gamer Legion, and they were on fire for the rest of the game.
They might make a comeback and stay in?
Yeah.
My talk on this match is that, number one, just because Gamer Legion is down five games or five series or whatever,
Still, they've had very good performances at previous tournaments.
They're a really good team.
Yeah, they could get it together.
Something was going on so they could get it together.
So, even though VP is playing quite well, them losing to Gamer Legion is not unheard of.
There's also a regional thing there.
These players really know each other.
Yep.
Because they all played in NA for so long.
However, the drafting from VP is super polarizing.
There's a lot of games.
Like in this series they blasted Primal into Rubik and he couldn't do shit like it's just a hard counter
And there's some games where they it seems like they make it so hard for themselves and
But they're playing really really good this VP team
Almost them. Yeah, they're definitely you know, they're building a foundation and it's
It's almost complete, you know, you can tell that they are improving
This was my favorite series from yesterday though.
Is it Vici Aurora?
Yeah.
I think it's actually Catch this one.
Game 3 especially was, and I know I say this at least once per Dream League, it looked
like a herald match in the sense of down mid, thrown attempt, crazy comeback, down mid
for the other team, thrown attempt, crazy plays, crazy comeback.
Very end of the game. I wasn't sure who was gonna win. There was multiple times
One throne was that like 50% HP and carry hitting it and that like it doesn't end here
Or is this what it ends? This might have been like the fourth throne attempt. Okay. This is actually what it ends
But there was rapiers as well going towards both sides, you know when you see a do so rapier like oh, oh
This one's over, but it wasn't
so I would definitely recommend going back and checking that one out I heard
the Falcons series was also quite incredible yesterday oh that's some
long games yeah the game 2 was games was crazy like it was one of those games
where the terror blade you're torn nearly managed to carry it but in
situations where they're like tens of thousands and go behind ultimately
couldn't know obviously went to game 3 that series but yeah game 2
This is a Dutch show.
His falcon is just back in TI4, man.
Yeah, that's stepping it up.
Yeah, they had a few rough performances, right, some of the previous showings.
By the way, Dream League, they're bringing it back.
Did you just think it was friendly of Vici Gaming to give Nightfall the gift of Ursa all three games?
For his birthday, of course, yesterday, did you also celebrate?
Oh, yes, of course I celebrated Night God's birthday.
Yeah, I sent him a text. It has weird notification. I get that says that like you are blocked by the recipient
I wasn't sure what recipient means. So yeah, I'm gonna contact
Android support and see if I can get that sorted out. Very good. I definitely celebrated it and I think yeah night
God, I mean, he's one of the only people this seems to be able to make Ursa work right now
I don't think it's that great of a hero. Yeah
I don't think so, but it's his favorite hero, so he gets to play it on his birthday.
Yeah, because if you're going to play Ursa, you're going to play for some clockwork, you're going to get hit by one cog, and then you're going to hit your rod.
In the meantime, take a look at the prize pool here, a lot of money on the line, a lot of points on the line, a lot of club rewards on the line.
And I would say pay close attention to the gap between 13th through 16th and top 12th
because that will be decided at the end of this group stage.
Four teams total to per group will be going home.
Today is the final day of group stages but if there's tie breakers they will be playing
tomorrow so that's a thing and we're probably getting tiebreakers them
most given out things are yeah the fact that no team is actually hard
eliminated already now it would be on there's it's gonna be close so I'm
sure we're gonna get some yeah we can we can take a look also at the amount of
points actually fog do you know that amount of points by heart no don't
looking amount of points shit what did you do I did orange inside the blue oh
I almost did that before too, but I'm trying to fix it. Oh, I don't think it shows. Let me see. Let me see
Big orange blob
Oh, I see me
Well, I would just continue that and just do an orange blob on all of them
Okay, you know what I mean make it like just make the error
Intentionals so do a little orange blob in the corner all of them. Okay. Did we already see it now?
We did no we didn't we haven't seen the points yet. We haven't seen the points. How many points you think dream league?
Oh, we have now don't look for how many points. What is dream league worth? It's like what 29,000. Yeah, pretty much
Yeah, we'll give you that 28 600
basically 29k points
Most of any of the dream leaves this season and not quite as much as the land. Oh, yes
I want Birmingham obviously but does make it massive still very much a lot and
receiving current standings and how that if some of those teams right now that are not
Not necessary in the qualified position.
If they win this tournament, you know, like the VPs, or the Navis or the game of legions,
the playtimes they're still in, they could end up in like that sort of competition.
Playtimes looking.
Playtimes.
So you might see those positions change quite a bit after the results of this stream.
Yeah, you already see them change after the results of the group stages.
Yep.
Some of these colors, I will say, do not look nearly as nice as the others.
Like, the green and the purple looks fantastic.
What do you not like the pink it like can't thanks can I get your pink? He's been using a lot of it
I want I want to use the I don't like the way the pink looks. Can I get it? Yeah, I'll trade. I'm doing the patterns
So I'm out of pink already the vibrant ones are pretty good. Yeah
We can take a look at all the games. Oh, we already are looking at all the games. That's today
We have four streams still is the final day that there's four streams
There will come a day where there's two streams. Oh, is that what we got the two streams Tuesday
Oh, that's interesting.
And who knows, maybe if there's 100,000 tiebreakers tomorrow, we might need 100,000 streams.
100,000 streams.
Yeah, I'm out of pink.
I'm gonna need a pink from someone here.
I'm working on it.
Oh, can I get your pink?
You can use mine.
I didn't use any.
And I'm sure whoever takes over can just use the other colors.
Nobody will take over.
Well, no, no.
Well, someone's gonna take over from me, right?
Like, this is not mine.
So who's on the panel? Who's taking over from me?
Insania.
Insania, there we go. You can start working with this one.
Because Brian is getting focused.
Is he? Oh, OK.
Insania has not done a lot.
You're going to have to do a lot Insania.
This special continues.
We're now at Stormstream's Liquid versus Vici.
Liquid versus Playtime will be shown there.
Well, Tundra versus Playtime is going to be pretty important.
Tundra need to win everything.
And as you said, Playtime has been a winner.
They're doing all right.
Pretty good.
So Tundra might have a bit of a nasty one there.
Who did play time in the beating last night?
Paravision.
It was Paravision right here.
Yeah, so that's kind of great.
Yeah, teams are coming the best in the tournament.
Yeah.
They're on the rise and Tundra's been on a bit of a downfall, right?
They've only won the one series?
Two series.
And that's you who's been on a little bit of a downfall
in our prediction competition at the same time,
because we have that for you.
Yep.
And, um, all right.
the cost still on top very convincingly also there is a couple people lost maxing and they're
all equal I don't only get one I got three predictions right yesterday but only got one
point are you Gary it's Gary actually well I'm positive oh well check the document 100%
positive oh check them I don't know see where they are because I was at five yesterday these
are the predictions of today oh pretty pretty like similar like that yeah it's not that's
They're ready. Nice people saying Aurora, and then most people saying Bethlehem for the second series.
Yeah.
I don't think there's much difference here. The interesting part for me is Gareth, who on the leaderboard
looked like he was lost maxing, but still goes for the pufferfish choices today, so maybe he's not lost maxing, and he's just not great.
That's a good thing. Oh my god. My blue is not drying up. Will I look at this? It's drying up weird
What would you man?
No, don't shake it too much because it's sticking out slightly. I'm getting color all over my hands
Oh, yeah, you just need to put a bit more. No, I think that's how it maybe dries. Do you think that's how it dries?
It depends. I that's why I put lots in so that when it dries it does dry like thick
So I would put more blur, but it's slightly supposed to be see-through. I bet and it depends that well
I mean I will wait like another 20 minutes if you want it to be see-through then put it in a layer
I mean I think it's supposed because it's supposed to play with colors from the sun
Yeah, I mean I was it where you could decide right not to fill in all of them like you can leave some as an empty
Definitely not that does not sound like it's right. Well, I want to cut it all the colors
I know and while I'm coloring all the colors. I'm gonna learn. Is that the Vinci?
I don't think DaVinci has any actual quotes.
What do you mean no?
I literally see DaVinci playing there.
Oh, is that an LH?
This guy's in Relic Arena.
You can't steal.
That's IP from Relic Arena.
IP?
Yeah, that's our intellectual property.
So, oh yeah, we're going to focus on the first tier, yes, Aurora vs. Virtus Pro.
That's why you're here.
And actually, some reason why you could also be here is to listen to very smart people
talk about Dota 2 and that's not any of us, but it is! The guy up there, that's Insania!
All right, thank you very much, Shiver. Yes, I have taken a look at Aurora vs VP.
These are two teams that have matched up against each other very limited amount of times, but
the history speaks quite clearly. So they matched up at Birmingham most recently and before that
they've matched up once or four and in every single matchup that they've had it's unfortunately been
a 2-0 for Aurora and some historic data for these series is that Storm Spirit was picked twice
oh that's cool for VP which might not come as a surprise to any of you guys and it did not go
well, and that's been a continuous trend this tournament. So if you look at the heroes that
these teams have been playing a lot, we'll start off with VP. VP's been playing Storm quite a bit,
as Boba tends to do, and unfortunately it has not been looking too good. Techies, which you would
probably associate with House Cream being like one of his best heroes, also has not been doing well,
and surprisingly Rubik sits at a 0% win rate. I was quite shocked personally from this,
but then interestingly when you take a look at Aurora, you'll notice that they have pretty much
similar trends. They picked Rubik four times with zero success. Storm Spirit also three picks
with limited success. It's very fun seeing Storm Spirit because every time I say it, the studio
starts sparking. It's very, very fun. And Pango. Pango's been a hero that's been doing really,
really well at the stream link, but it doesn't seem to be doing well for this team. And one of the
interesting things with Storm that I noticed is that people tend to pick it quite a bit into Pango,
and I think that also is part of why the win rate hasn't been so good. But for today's series,
I think it's really gonna come down to the midlaners. We have two of these like giant very strong midlaner some SCA
Both on you know non SCA teams
Ovid and Mikoto and I think their performance is gonna be quite defining and they both kind of set the tempo for both these teams
And how they come across like how they come out of the laning phase and how they enter the midgame is gonna be the key thing
That I'm gonna be focusing on for the series and where I look to see like who can make the difference
Thank you very much.
Looking at the midlaner is always fun.
I do wonder if there's some kind of mental thing that kicks in that when Virtus Pro is
struggling or something in the draft isn't going the way that they planned, well then
they just go for the storm spirit.
I wonder if that's also part of the reason why it's like, you know, their comfort, and if it doesn't work.
I would think so. I think it's like when we did this quiz the other day.
I was literally going to reference it.
Yeah, and like, there's sometimes you're in a situation where you don't know what to pick.
So you, and you like, you look at the draft and in theory, if you're like, there's no hero that actually makes a draft good.
And then you default to, I'm just going to pick the hero. I think I play the best.
And I think in Bulba's case, that's Storm Spirit a lot of times, Robin, right?
Absolutely.
What's the spirit?
The store spirit.
Zeus.
Nice. Nice.
Does Razor have the same effect?
Razor.
Yes, clearly.
It did, it did.
Welcome also, Brian, how you doing?
I would just like to formally apologize because I didn't know how this thing worked.
And
this fogged was making something beautiful.
And I didn't ruin it entirely.
I don't know one's there.
foxes it looked you gave me on yeah yeah yeah sorry Owen but sorry fogged
cuz I anya cuz you took the can I get your colors I spilled a little bit at
the very middle and I don't know if you can see it like right there but yeah yeah
you don't do I goofed so I'm doing well though she ever thank you for asking
very good sorry to hear it you're good excuse me I think this year's today is
even though their previous results are a little lopsided in favor of Aurora.
I think it should still be a good series, especially since Virtus.pro is in a better form than they have been in the past when we've seen them.
But don't take my word for it. Let's hear from Virtus.pro and hear how they're doing.
Yeah, I think we have some progress in team because the first time we played in
Gimli we played really well I guess and then we had some kind of rough time like
in February and March we lost all qualifiers besides it being a game but
now I guess as a team we playing for sure better but we still have lack of
discipline in the end game so we throw the games a lot but yeah I see progress
Because anyway, it's like main goal you want to qualify to EWC and TI.
Hard to say what they miss, and for example I have some plans, but in-game some people can start stress and call some random things.
We have no problem for Furnace Krell.
It's a bit bad to have multi-culture roster,
because if you're not on bootcamp, it's kind of hard to play together.
Even these last two months, we had bootcamp from 13 March
until the end of PGL.
People were together all this time, and it was kind of hard.
It's not anymore, baby.
We tried to follow the rule, no expectation, no frustration.
Our team goal is to qualify directly to EWC
and then prepare for the EWC and T-Rex Worlds.
A bootcamp that's that long?
I would imagine that it can go both ways, though.
Aiden, I'm sure you've had some really long bootcamps.
Yep.
And, okay, every person is different, and...
I can only imagine that if you're spending two months with four other people,
and only five are coach-included, the manager-included, so...
six other people, the same people, day in, day out,
You're going to have some grievances potentially?
Yeah, for sure.
Isn't that also a good thing though?
I think it can be a good thing.
I think most of the time to be honest, if you're stuck in a space with the same people for an extended period of time,
no matter who they are, no matter how much you like them, there's a tendency to start getting annoyed with like,
you know, small things about them that you normally wouldn't.
I definitely have like, I'm sure every single person on our team had this feeling.
feeling too loudly yeah you know exactly stuff like you that you normally
wouldn't even notice after a long period of time together you really start
noticing it and it really gets under your skin who is the loudest shure on
liquid probably William it was choose with his mouth open what I don't think
he does we're spreading false propaganda here oh okay yeah hate that
I'm down for that that guy's a mouth chewer he's a mouth chewer for I think
Everybody is a mouth-chewer?
Yeah, but for him it's particularly nasty.
Okay. Yeah. Okay.
I mean, for me it's like, it's like that
mouth-chewing may not annoy you on a certain day,
but if you just came off of like
a devastating loss, and then you're just like
trying to eat your dinner in peace,
and then you hear the mouth-chewing bad day,
and then you then connect that to like future...
How do you chew if not mouth-chewing?
I just started using the mouth-chewing.
With the gums. With the gums.
The gums. Like this. Like this.
Blendle your food. Yeah. Yeah, that's another option work it up
I got
interesting
We're learning so much. Yeah, it's one. Yeah
Going into this series though, of course, this is the end of the group stages already. I
Know you have Jenkins. You have your favorite Aurora in there
But do you think it will be very Aurora favorite or do you feel like the series will be?
will be even and what are you looking for in this series?
VP is definitely a team that's been getting better and better as things go on, so you
know it's funny to hear that the bootcamp is kind of dragging on because to me it looks
like it's been subtly working the entire time.
They still have some of the same old issues.
I really do believe that a lot of the drafts for their games, they're making it very difficult
for themselves. Artificially, like drafting into counters, drafting where they have to
do X, Y, and Z in a teamfight in order to just even take the fight, you know? But in
terms of gameplay, watching them, their fundamentals are super on point. Their teamplay is super
on point. So I really do believe if they can get not out drafted by KP here, that the game
should be a lot more even.
Yeah and then this this series we got Aurora's hitting on a 3 and 3 score line
Virtus Pro on a 2 and 4 score line so if VP win this they'll both be even at a
3 to 4 score line which puts them either in tie breakers for upper or tie
breakers for elimination or just straight up into lower so there's a lot
still possible but there's a lot of pressure for VP because they are the
ones with the worst score lines over Aurora. For Aurora it's pretty simple if
they win this series they are upper bracket. I feel like that's not too
unexpected right or I would say between the two of these coming in
definitely the stronger team. Not only match-up wise but also just like
overall. I do agree with Jenkins Void about VP. I feel like when it looks good
It looks really good, but a lot of the times it's just it's hard to see the vision and it's hard to see like how they want to get there
And I feel like for them I always worry about like Saber's lane
And if he has like a decent lane matchup or not
And I feel like part of the reason why they struggle so much in this matchup is nightfall is like
one of the most abusive carries to play up against
Laning once like he will if he can snowball the lane and like take the game over
That's like his favorite type of play style and I think that matches up quite well against Saber
Yeah, literally Ursa is like a signature hero and if you ever fall behind that you're definitely gonna get punished in the laning phase.
I, I guess when I watch VP, what I see is like they have a tendency to just kind of have free losses.
Like they kind of hand away games and games like there's the games where they're competitive.
I'm like, okay, this team looks legit. They could take a game off of anybody.
But it feels like when they're in the best of three, there's almost always that one game that yeah, just they either had no business losing
losing or the draft was just kind of wonky and they thought that Saber's lane really struggled or
Or something like this and and I think that that's usually a sign of like a tier two team is is when you know
I feel like the tier one teams did for me the signature is they'll win games
They seem like they have no business winning and for tier two teams. It's like they'll have they'll lose games
They have no business losing
But on the side of Aurora
Yeah, I I'm wondering like what's happening with night focus
If you're getting Ursa at three games in our own meeting and we're talking about it over there
I like I don't think Ursa is all that great right now
I don't know. He solves some problems in the draft like it makes it so you can kill heroes who are BKB'd and
And it gives you Roshan and Tormentor like it makes the game a bit simpler, but I
Think there's a reason why the hero is not being picked by virtually like he is getting picked a little bit
But it always feels like oh I have to pick Ursa because there's some off-lane Timber saw that we can't deal with it's not like a
Oh, this is a free Ursa game kind of pick
feels like a band-aid almost as a hero right now I hate saying it because I love
Ursa
so historically starter good here against puck has a lot of lockdown when
you play against puck you always have the problem of how are we actually going
to kill this here because if puck is unkillable it will win you almost any
And if you don't have nice tools to kill him, you will struggle throughout the entire game.
Tardar kind of gives you those tools, and damage on top of like, you know, Puck isn't physically tanky.
He's just tanky by not being there.
Or like, he survives by not being there.
So, a lot of lockdown, nice way to initiate on Puck.
I think that's a good plan already.
And there's the follow-up damage to get the job done.
Yeah, that's great. I'm shocked by Hero like Puck that like I thought the dream coiled talent at level 25
That made it Pierce immunity was like a huge part of the hero just like
It just felt like as a core you wanted to buy you had to buy BKB and then late game
It didn't really do much and then you even had to like consider Wind Wakers and stuff
But now
There is just the one item that counters puck and yet puck is still getting picked as much as it is
It's even being elevated to a first-round pick. This isn't the first time
we've seen this so I'm curious what your thoughts are and why that's the
case. I mean I think it's also like a Makoto thing right this guy is like
incredibly high-skilled on these types of heroes he's a very good temple player
and I think Puck is one of those heroes that like the player can really make a
big difference on how impactful it is I know like when we were picking it a lot
for niche it wasn't just like we think Puck is broken we think Nisha's Puck is
broken yeah and I think they might have a similar thing with Makoto right like
This guy is it's his best hero. Sure. I think it is. Yeah. Yeah, would you say it's a skill expression here?
It is here with high opportunity for skill expression. I agree with that. I think arguably one of the highest I
Think if you're like a mechanical skill player and like, you know how to take over games
Puck probably is one of like the flashiest ones you can do it on. I remember back when I was actually playing a lot of pubs and
Malrin was not like a big name yet
Yeah, I would hate playing as Malrin Puck and freakin pubs like I especially
like, resent to him because when he was on my team he played like a carry, where he would
just be like the Axe Maelstrom but he was farming like all game, but he would carry
the shit out of you. But then I'm like, well what about me? Where's my network? Every time.
You know what that means right? Typical carry player. Yeah. That means like he comes into
the game saying you're his carry and he has no faith. You know, there is that self-fulfilling
prophecy aspect of it for sure. Yeah. But no, I mean, Puck is a hero that can absolutely
carry the shit out of the game with skill expression, of course.
Yeah, but Quinn always says when Makoto gets Puck, like you have to be insane to let this through.
Like it doesn't matter, like, what you're countering it with, you don't let the Makoto Puck through.
And I feel like when you have, you know, at the time, Quinn was literally rank one in the world for like three years and top three midlaners in the world.
And he's saying that you shouldn't let the fuck through that that says a lot to me like there's a lot of respect there
And it's an ego thing too right mid laners don't easily want to admit that somebody else is good at something
I think that's like so if you hear mid laners say that about another one. Yeah, yeah
Big respect big big, you know, yeah, there's it carries more weight
Just like now rain get in my games. Yeah, he carried a lot of weight. Yeah
I hate it.
What else we got?
Oh, Rubik!
Okay, congratulations, VP, on the victory of the first game.
Whoa!
Really?
Neither team is one with Rubik.
Oh, I thought Rubik was supposed to be good though.
That's what I thought too.
You don't think there's oof in this?
Support duo?
Phoenix Rubik sounds pretty decent.
It's okay.
So, um...
It's a hard to make plays though, right?
I remember you guys on Liquid always talked about your, like, support duo plus mid.
Yeah.
I mean, it's really important.
Usually when you play Puck, what you want to have in your team is you want every dreamcloyal to be a guaranteed kill.
Like you want it to be a very simple kill.
And that's why one big reason that people like to pair like Puck and Tusk together a lot is just because like, it's just so much damage.
Puck doesn't really have catch issues, but Puck does have damage issues in the early game.
Until you start building up some items, it's nice to have damage coming from the other heroes.
And both Phoenix and Ravik are kind of like low damage until the big skills fail.
They scale and damn they all three of these heroes start the game low exactly
So for that for that reason it's not not ideal
But this will either way be an exciting game because other Rubik gets his first win for either of these two teams
Or the trend continues of zero percent
these
I mean if I couldn't see the team names, I would be heavily leaning towards first project right now like I don't actually
Exactly see the benefit of this aspect like yeah, Axe Phoenix like classic combo BKB piercing AoE stun that protects the egg
But I
You don't see the carry matchup yet. I don't think Axe particularly loves playing in the silencer in the lane
Like I actually like slaughter a lot against Axe
Just because yeah calls nice for armor, but you don't like axe
He dies outside of call. He's never dying during call. So it's heroes that do lower his armor
I think are very annoying embers hard to catch
You know I are embers
Are they ever going spirit vessel nowadays, or are they just always going like mage slayer?
I'm seeing some spirit some spirit vessel. I think like a really nice spirit. I think I think yesterday
I saw RCY go vessel into mage slayer. Yeah, I'm just thinking that like this is a game where
What I hated about axe like for a lot of these patches is any patch for dispells are necessary
It feels really bad to play axe because he doesn't want to he wants to go like vanguard blade now blink like
Third, fourth item, BKB. That's like the earliest dispel. Sometimes people would go like Lotus Orb or something, but I think he will be buying a Lotus Orb this game, given that there's slaughter in a silencer, but how late is that going to come out, right?
I don't think he's going to do like a 33 build where he doesn't have a blink for 30 minutes. Terriblade would have been nice for Nightfall.
How's Ember's overall power level do you feel as much?
Yeah, that's a tough question.
We literally talked about Ember needing a lane.
I feel like it's always the case.
I feel like his ability to roam is just...
If I'm to carry and I see an Ember go off map at 8 minutes,
I'm like, I guess I just have to cower until he shows back up mid.
Unless you're nakes.
Unless you're nakes, of course.
Unless you're a hero that can get out of the chains by default.
And I do like Ember and a puck like in that sense, you know, I do think this match
It's always been very volatile where like Ember early game usually wins the lane
He's a lot to eat like get off to that snowball he star but then you died a puck coil in the mid game. I
Say his power level is like a set so I had to answer with a number. I
Think he's still good
Mates layers such a good item. Yeah, anytime mates layer or like these proc items are good
and we're in pango I think are always gonna be good even with the nerves I
think they just like I didn't even get that much of a nerve it's like 40 to 35
damage or whatever oh interesting they banned Ursa and then picked PL Ursa's
literal match worse matchup on numbers is PL so I just think that's really
interesting that they did that I think they were trying to back their axe so
like some cool cool problems that VP are presenting here like the ember puck
Ember's answer is a good way to answer the puck. This puck has a tricky time
playing into these supports and the stuns and if you look at VP, I think for VP
it's a lot easier to find ways to kill puck than it is for Aurora to kill Ember.
In order to kill Ember you really just use a lot of imagination of how
these spells are going to come together and you need some interesting steel on
Rubik or you need the axe to have a blademail. It's tricky to see
like the clear path on how to counter like the ember. Whereas I think for the puck it's
literally just going to be chains, global, stun, stun, that you know like there's a lot of stuff
that can happen in order to kill the puck. So from a pure draft perspective I feel like playing VP
Zero seems a lot simpler and it comes together in a much more natural way. I 100% agree with
all that on paper and I think that like if you're going to pick PL here and the only hero left in
the game is the carry like I think this Ursa band is a huge mistake. Like I love playing Life Stealer
into PL because like you just like PL thrives on long fights and he actually has damage problems
like that's how this hero falls off, night falls off and for Life Stealer you have consistent
consistent and PL never really kills you and then you could also like infest your teammates usually
by Axe so it's like an extra 1200 heal. I actually think Aurora's gonna have
serious damage issues and I think their only condition is like stop the lanes. I
think my still can be susceptible in this lane like he's nice against Axe as
the game goes on. There's always the Makoto Puck fact. Yeah there is that
Makoto Puck fact. Like a good Puck can always 1v5 a game. No no no for sure for sure.
I think like the... how to say it? I think for VP they're down, they're not coming to this game and
they need us to have a draft where they can win and I think they have that. They do.
I would still, you know, I think Aurora is the better team and they can make this draft come together
But I think they they have an uphill climb. Yeah in the series. I agree
I think if I couldn't see the names I would choose
V2. It's really good drafting from VP today
And I think they've struggled in the last few days with this so it's nice to see that they cook something here
Let's go. I weren't for a good game. I think. Can I have your purple?
I'm not done with my purple.
I just did it a little bit. Holy crap, you used so much purple.
Use this purple.
See, I used this purple already.
Aiden, can I use your purple?
My color exploded.
What?
Thank you.
That's not good.
Anyway, millions of dollars on the line here.
Millions of dollars.
Well, it's just game one for now.
So let's head into that one.
It's going to be OD Pixel and fog on the microphones, but on the instruments before
that.
That's how it works.
There we go, ladies and gentlemen, time to get into the game, one of his best of three.
Aurora up against VP.
But what do you make of some of the way those drafts ended up?
I was talking about the fact that, you know, Earthshir is banned out, but still the PL is
picked for nightfall, and then the slides should be coming out in turn.
They seem to like the overall vibe of VP's a little bit poor.
Same for you, Reckon.
Yeah.
early game. Aurora, very comfort heroes though, and I do think that their lineup can actually
work out if they don't fall super far behind, and they can't scale very nice.
He already used the doppel I think to scout, so he doesn't have the doppel to lift.
Yeah, and the issue is definitely going to be a lot of this early game, just how much
kill threat there is across the map. I feel like Saberlight and Hellscream can really set the
pace, and their lanes are, you know, they're matching a panel how if Aurora can have success,
maybe the lanes are going to go better. The lanes, honestly, for VP,
it looks like potential triple lane win. It's a Slardar hoodwink. The version is this
like PL Phoenix which is you're never going through kills too much in PL Phoenix and you're
just kind of like kind of handle the lane. So it's a very strong lane there. Bottom is
a life stealer. I guess bottom lane maybe is the one that can be a bit different. Because
Phoenix isn't bottom versus the sun. No, this Axe Rubik does have the potential to have a
lot of spam, a lot of harassment that they can get out in the laning stage. So maybe
Maybe not a 3 lane, but like a 2.5 ish lane win, so I really like the way that they've
set that up.
I like the tomatoes doing this too, this is actually pretty clever.
They kill my range creep?
I'll kill your range creep, let's even it up.
Yeah, let's see how things go down.
The other thing I do have to mention, of course, too, is Aurora did get a lot of staple heroes.
We do see staple heroes, of course, on VP, but Kaori, he got his Phoenix.
And there's like 2 heroes you really don't want to give to Kaori, and it's his Phoenix
and his Warlock, because he is incredibly good on them.
Yeah, and maybe
That was sort of more from where that final bang came from rather than necessarily sort of considering what night for wanted in terms of a carry match
But it's more like hey, there's a phoenix
We don't want to deal with the earth in that fast attack speed to take down the egg
Obviously get another good solution in the life stealer with the rage potential
But yeah, maybe it's more about making sure the quarry as you say
Oh one of his strongest heroes has the the chance to really have that crazy impact that he can have when he's on his phoenix
Yeah, it's a bit interesting for sure. So we'll have to see how that ends up playing off
And we have to of course mention nightfall
Epileptic kid right the old nickname that he had and there's always a P.L. farmer
Yeah, he was literally like running havoc in pubs constantly like rank one for a very long time or top-five rank when he wasn't big in the scene in particular
So and now a days in this current patch of meta pretty good time for the P.L. picks
So at least because we've been through a few phases where P.L. was just kind of not touched at all
Yep, I definitely feels very good with this Manta agonims butterfly kind of style build
We get crazy timing and it's good versus the silencer right this disbells gonna be nice right now Lane's going very well for the side of Aurora
so
The mid lane matchup
I'm waiting to see how this one goes because Mikoto is so experienced
But a lot of the embers do like playing this matchup and it doesn't seem like Mikoto is gonna be just fine autumn WS getting aggressive
He's gonna take quite a bit of damage in return
I was gonna say it looks like he's going down yeah flies gonna be able to find him with that final glaive
That's one
Actually, that's the second one right so he has plus two now
Was able to find that other int definitely don't want to lie die too many times on these strength and agility heroes early on definitely is obnoxious
versus the silencer a
couple pauses now
Yeah, does seem that these sort of lanes when you have the silencer support
They can be quite snowball-y both ways right if you start to feed a little bit early as the silence of your lane
completely collapse
But on the flip side if you do start to get these early kills it
It does begin to add up pretty early. Yeah
Why is the one that he can probably died out here pretty easily right what this step you get lifted you get a hunger on you
You're just dead so
Does that to still be cautious even though they got that kill very early strong lane to get kills for Aurora as well
So for VP also the something that they're kind of lacking in their draft is team fight
We do have to mention that right they have global which is like a preventative team fighter
But Aurora has insane team fight for their draft. That's true
It says it's very much sort of kind of pick offs and
Single target focus that VP's lineup leads into which is a bit of a concern for me
If they don't play very cleanly because if you're playing versus mass team fight
You start to make some mistakes an egg pops on top you a call right on a main disaster
Then might just get themselves another one here, Mira!
Oh!
Looks like he's gonna be okay, well I say that turns around and actually gets back in range for another glaive, so he won't be okay, that's another one for Fly!
Will be resetting.
It looks like he kinda wanted to die, right?
I don't know!
I mean, when you do stuff like that, like...
I mean, he wanted to turn it into a Fade Bar, but that's greedy.
Cost him his life, and, uh, yeah, more for Fly!
His Talbot's on the courier too, coming for the Rubik, so yeah, probably.
It looked like he wanted to dive, but I don't think he did as you're mentioning.
Minus one, plus one, of course, with Fly, and Fly, with that, he's actually rotating toward the Rune mid very early on here.
Let's have a look, see how much he can climb on Makoto, not too much, that's fine.
Still gets the Water Room picked up by Makoto.
Good timing for Makoto, to shift toward bottom, beats him to it.
Casual. Trying to pressure. Casual Blood Grenade, it's going to be enough. Definitely
do a lot of damage. Looks like it should be. It's going to tick down very low and indeed
he's out. So, Ori. Nicely pressured there when they realized the Saberlight's on his
zone. Okay Ori Phoenix always pushing the limits. It's always nice to see the
people that you can tell are so experienced on this Phoenix now how much
they've used the dying light using that 3%. Yeah just knowing exactly when they
will have enough damage to burn you down the entirety of your HP. Because they
dive right on top of you you know you're taking that big percentage damage you
don't really want to trade it's never really effective to trade versus these
Phoenix even as chorus. Hey, Makoto's doing great still. Phenomenal job versus the Ember
Spirit. Of course, these two know each other so well they've played each other a billion
times in this matchup. Makoto falls for the solo play. What a play again! The Hellscream
this time is going to turn up and help out. It's going to allow Fly to get another dominating
now. Ask the silencer. Have to go over the TP out here. Only axe to keep himself safe.
That's WS, but Fly is having a great time. He's got four kills already in five minutes
And the Rubik allegations, you know, this hero is not having the best win rate.
Of course, everybody's picking it, because it does fit in most games, but it's what, 30%?
35% or something like that?
Getting killed a lot in the lane.
And not stacking either. That's the one thing, right?
Miro was trying to play the lane to pressure the whole time.
Doesn't have any stacks for the axe to go back to, at least in these next few moments.
So the lane is broken, so bottom is gonna be free farming after left-sealer.
And Miro again?
He might be in trouble once more.
He's gonna have the hell proud of Mikoto, but they're gonna chase on.
With the resident on the side of Fist, that's Mera God.
That's a rough start for Mera.
Flies to the walkover, he's ready to start taking some more impotency.
Dreamcalls gonna get dropped down onto the thread, and they are through below.
They will manage to ensure that they kill off Fly, but Arbet's still cleaning up a double kill.
Orbs still up though from Mikoto to be able to join to Wai.
But, a little rotation towards Mid.
Not going great for Mera.
Goes very great for Arbet on the other side of things.
He's getting a double kill as the Mid Ember Spirit.
Three in a row. Mera just showing up to lane to dive.
That honestly really hurts. There's gonna be, as we said, no pressure now at Tamato.
He can just go for the Radiance build, very likely versus this PL, to get it pretty early.
So let's see how much pressure they can actually bring to this bottom lane now, when the 4th position wasn't able to whatsoever.
Trick is, what do you bring down to this bottom lane?
Nobody, honestly, because you can't with Puck. There's no combo.
No, I mean, Tamato just doesn't care.
No.
Right? You could take any hero down here right now.
Tamato on the lifestealer, he's gonna be fine.
That's why this pick feels so damn good, right? There's very limited ways to see how Tamato dies.
WS is going to take the other huge amount of damage here.
He might just be dead. We'll see back up coming in, but Tamar is going to try and chase him with the Rage.
Won't be able to chase the whole way, and Kory with the dive forward will take out Blood.
Wisdom contest, a little awkward now for VP. I mean, Kory can continue to burn the two of them down.
This is really...
Good X-Con shot, but the call's there, and VP, they're not going to get away with this one.
Good rotation from Kory.
He said he's the one to watch on the Phoenix and absolutely turning up down to that bottom lane a key component and kind of fixing
Sort of the trouble and the struggles that Aurora was having down there
So Corey doing his best to it to solve some of the early game flaws
I
We bring up damage number if we want to to see how much he is doing because that honestly was insane
How much he was able to do on the Phoenix very early already here?
Beautiful stuff and on over commitment by tomato also using the range chasing the axe super far splitting from his team
Aurora has fixed the early game, very quickly with that.
You can't really chase the lifestealer to kill him, but if he over commits, then you can actually punish the model there.
Whoops, already been used. Okay, does manage to jump out towards it.
We'll see a TP out from Kory, we'll get punished. Our bed has the damage.
Kills him off in time to fly. We'll continue to chase Makoto away.
He gets the rune.
He can't even get to the rune, but...
Indeed, Makoto still manages to jump over to get the pickup.
I thought up, is he?
I mean, Makoto is heading this way, obviously VP fully aware that he's going in this direction.
I bet he's him.
I'm gonna try for the solo play.
I'm so glad with the Dreamcoil, the hard bets here to help out the pushbacks in from
Hellscream.
That's Makoto going down there, getting a bit greedy, blinking on the high ground, thinking
that he could potentially catch one of these supports by surprise.
Usually the Dreamcoil doesn't get a kill, ends up dying himself.
Op-ed with good target prioritization Saberlight was actually pinging nightfall. He's like, yeah, we can go for him
We see him with haze and op-ed's like no no no bigger priority saved my buddy kill the puck
We'll be able to get that one and he is gonna go the vessel build first early on here
To perhaps still go for the mage layer if he wants to in this game k yori trying to farm the six op-ed looking to pressure
Cool start to the game eight to five
And Kiori, the big one that's kind of salvaging that early game as you're matching for Aurora.
Good knife, Phil. Now look at the crush. Mera's gonna turn up and try and help out, but he is still very vulnerable as the Rubik.
Ah, that's incoming.
Mera's gonna be dead again. Bash comes in from stable light. Mera to fall.
More in for flight. And at the same time, Ahbed, just making sure the Kory can't get over and join.
Find himself walking into Makoto. Does have Dreamcrawl at the ready.
Hard for him to go for the kill on his own, so we'll indeed hold back on dropping the ult for now.
Kind of limited ways to break the Flame Guard early, right?
It's gonna be pretty much with Phoenix in the pocket unless Rubik's is able to find some type of beast and spell suit, which there isn't really that many, to be honest with you.
Yeah, but what is the big steal, really? I guess it's if you look like a hoodwink.
Yeah, hoodwink and the Smarter, right? Probably the two main ones.
Corey! I caught again here! Still not able to sort of get that freedom to try and find his level 6.
Dakota!
photo. Super action packed early game. The fact that they did at least get Tamato once
I think is pretty decent for Aurora. I thought he wasn't going to die this early game at
all just him over committing so at least they're slowing him down slightly but now WS could
be in trouble.
Some of the arm bed is closing the gap here, has the slight change.
WS is he going to get any sort of assistance?
Doesn't look like it.
So they'll be able to slowly but surely burn him down.
Another slight change in two seconds.
Let's go.
Stop it.
Pop it off right now.
And in a game where if you're looking at things with stuns, not the most reliable ones versus
an Ember Spirit.
Puck can set up the other disables, but Albed truly set up to run rampant in this area.
Mira's gotta be careful in the mid.
Mira again?
The shot shooter's gonna hit.
Albed, is he able to close the gap on this one?
He is.
But Nikodo is close.
Can he protect him?
Make sure that, yeah.
Mira's able to lift this time, Raffer.
Mira is bottom of the network as the sport of Rubik right now.
Not able to find much benefit.
Anything bottom pressure?
WS trying to drag the wave.
I'm considering if I can maybe make a go, but it's just super tough to kill off of under the cover of the Flamethrower.
He's going to be a big problem. Him and the Lifestealer, right? Those are going to be the big problems for them to bring down in the game.
Lack of disables, lack of damage to be able to go through that rage. They'll have to call eventually later on, going early WS, not wanting to get too close into a model for sure.
And Saber-Lite is starting to just get away with sitting in the top lane by himself.
Usually when you see this, it's the dream for a Slardar.
Right?
Sometimes he's Slardar, they get pushed out of the lane, you kind of have to jungle with
your Soul Ring.
It's a level 8 Slardar with Soul Ring, with Treads, Blink on the horizon as well too.
So for VP, things are looking pretty solid.
For Aurora, still getting some good farm now as we're seeing.
Also not getting it slowed down too much here on the PL. We'll have the yawster timing
Global at the ready fly
We said very strong game for global versus the Phoenix in the Puck in particular
He's looking for WS. They know he's kind of catching up pretty effectively on this side here does have the blade mouth finished
With the vessel they should have more than enough.
Setting up for him.
The brood welcome back to the lane.
520s.
Yep, set up into the burst, not a chance for the axe.
And now, Gory might be in trouble as well with the global getting dropped.
A little early on that global.
See if we can dive out of this.
It's gonna go for the egg and they'll have to just run for it from now.
Now Coil will connect onto Hellscream, but the rest of them will manage to back away from the Alts.
Very... I mean, extremely early on the global, right?
Like, just come... using it instantly when the Phoenix arrives earlier than just, like, waiting for a second, maybe he just jumps and then you can use it, just immediately popping it.
So a bit of a waste there. Did you get the kill at least on WS5? And I'm losing that hero because of it.
I think for Aurora also overall, even though we're mentioning VP having some good timing,
Aurora they're probably like pretty content if the game slows down almost ever at all.
Mira definitely not content though.
I'll play the Aysimon again in the channel so I can pick up a lot of kills against Mira.
It's a chain dive, 5 deaths already.
Alright, Blink is done.
This is where VP wants to kind of snowball and take over the map.
They don't want Aurora to be able to sit back and talk like this.
Let's see if they can get the jump on Makoto.
Albed for now is going to try and chase down Kaori.
Backup's coming in with the damage of the Vestal.
That's going to be Kaori, god.
They'll get the call on for Ward's, Albed, but it doesn't matter.
Logs for backup coming in.
Maybe it does. He's getting pretty low. The dump's actually there.
Okay, they get the kill. WS will manage to take the round.
He came again?
Ah, they're not getting out of this one, Aurora.
both Mira and WS2 end up dying so WS sure he finds Abed is a big kill streak to end but
Mira just came and the casual keys are adding up. He's 0 and 6. This is one of the roughest
games I think I've seen Mira ever have in an early game. He literally just TP'd in,
shot a fadebolt and died immediately. That was his contribution. That's rough and they're losing
the mid tier ones out here as well. Yeah and they lost Makoto in the mid lane while all that was
happening as well. They did give the jump on him with the slaughter with the hoodwink.
Conceive the aggression that VP can play with a lot easier with their heroes, with ease of execution, multiple different ways to stun instead of on targets.
Global's back up, they even can look for another play here. If Saberlight finds somebody.
That's pretty much going to be the Radiance timing dome for Tomato.
Definitely a very good spot here on the side of VP. Saberlight looking for a jump.
Easy, he's gonna get it.
Actually having a sort of dark dream card over the time of the day when he's gonna blame the global star that comes out.
See if you can get out of this one, Bash will crush actually.
On the mark!
Sure, but there's the Bash, Makoto taken down.
He'll have to keep to the distance, but stupid over for now.
In fact, save a like, top CPL, he'll get out of there.
Very smart, hands up play.
Even with the ward, Aurora was super ready for this move.
They had this ward watching the entire time, and they still can't contest it.
The global, just the pressure plays that VP's draft has this early on.
It's very good for us of them.
Nightball is still farming! We can see the pressure that BP is able to put on here.
Rest of the world.
Trying to hang onto this good tower.
Pop the glyph to keep the push going.
That's what they should finish it off.
I'll find damage room for Arbent.
Flameguard will protect for a second, but that's all.
The slide chains are there into the acorn shell dead again seven deaths. Holy moly
And in being lost a lot of the times too
That's how we're going
I'm about able to finish that off with the amplified damage
I'd say VP are almost at the timings that they want to be I've actually if you know what you're having all three
Tier ones
I think this exactly kind of how they want to be setting this tempo all three tier ones taken blink is ready constant aggression radiance is done
Definitely a position for them to continue controlling the pace of the game for Aurora. They do have to blink now in the axe.
So let's see how much WS can do as up and in mid.
That's a good coil. They've locked him down. He's able to still get the slide and the random off.
No way.
And he's back to the safety of his teammates, so I bet it's going to be fine.
Actually tanks up through it all.
They're still going to try and chase on. They should have at least a solid opportunity to get my maybe nice 3-man pushback to hold them back.
Hellscream giving a bit of a chance for Fly to run.
Well, that was pretty.
Still, the battlehungers there to telekinesis, so get him at the end of it, but the rest of the team are out.
Mira has a decent skill right now, not a phenomenal one, because it has to put him into melee range,
but Steering Chains is pretty solid if he's able to lock down some of these heroes.
K.O.R.I. now does have a Eul's at the least to protect himself versus the Silents.
They potentially set something up onto some of these heroes.
As we said, VP's draft. Definitely doesn't want to hemorrhage too many kills. Also, they
want to be playing pretty clean and concise versus this PL. Because CAN get to a point
where this PL is an issue. Eventually. Sure, the lifestealer, as BSJ was mentioning before,
it does do pretty well versus it because the way the sustained battle works and PL's damage
isn't the highest early on, but eventually it can absolutely be a problem.
I'm gonna get the core.
I'm gonna come out though to ensure there's no follow-up onto our bet.
Our bet's still considering maybe turning and getting aggressive, but if you get caught
by the telekinesis into the stolen steering chains, into the queen coil, locking him down
here, they'll kill him off, but it's gonna cost both Makoto and Mira and WS their lives.
Tomato showing up really nicely from behind.
He's got the armlet and the radiance finished up too.
I think this draft also hits objectives pretty decently because of the slaughter.
They can just Corrosive Ace, look for early Roshan.
They're actually going to do it already.
I thought they were going to wait a little bit longer, but they're going to go straight into it after these kills.
Keeping that momentum.
Let's do it again here.
I mean, they kind of get the control onto our bed and even able to continue it,
despite the global silence being used, finding that follow there,
put the chains and telekinesis from Mirren's Dream Corps,
but it just takes a little too long and they should say,
just able to freely go from target to target in these fights
with this incredible amount of fondness, man, it's a big opportunity for the Lightspealer.
He's tough to deal with.
This brochure isn't dying as fast as I think they wanted it to, Aurora.
It is back up to contest.
I mean, can they get the steal, though? It's a risky one, and it doesn't look like they're going to be able to make the jump in time.
So, VP, they finish it, get the Aegis on Somato.
I thought they might shoot like an orb in there to perhaps try to at least get blasted, but not the case.
VP, taking the boxes.
Looking very good so far in this early game.
Vic, stay behind.
I'll get the call.
And they'll be able to get him.
I'll come in and stay behind like that.
Too much damage coming out for the four of them.
If he even had one body behind him, perhaps they can stay behind him,
but not the case they split up all over the map.
That feels like it's their strongest kill threat on Aurora, right?
A coil into a sun ray. That's their highest threat.
So I actually like what K.O.R.E. is queuing up here too.
Queuing up the shard immediately on the Phoenix.
probably expecting that they're not gonna be able to get that tormentor would be
hard for them to contest it
and they set up for him here he does get the scan success will be okay and it
should be VP setting up for that tormentor now
now playing for these very very quick objectives
Russian to torment to 20 minutes looks like they might actually go for a catch
let's see go for the tour yeah bring the whole team down stabilize here to make
nice and easy yeah no point taking a rest for the easy objective who's gonna get it
not the greatest that's okay
well they're ready to try and go for more here coming in with the smoke swing they play might
surprise some of Aurora especially with tomato showing in the mid
okay all right these guys are still there a vast global maybe not so necessary but perhaps expecting
a fight to kick off, but Flies is thrown about.
Continue to take these very good timings, Housecrime going for yours as well, glimmer
plus defensive items on the supports WS.
That was a close one.
Gotta be careful.
And Houseknight falls timing right because if yours like, he's got heavy luck and he
is farmed.
Only about a thousand gold behind that of Tomato, but indeed could be quite the heavy game for him.
How's the PL?
Especially because he's also playing versus like a tricorps that scales pretty well, right?
The Ember, the lifestealer of this Florida on his side.
Yes, Puck can scale pretty well, so can X, but it's not the same of like full out tricorps in a way.
Although he scales very strong.
We'll have to say.
Tomato?
That's a good call.
very very quickly able to burn through the live stealer once see if they can do
it a second timer into the tier 2 it's gonna get the rage off fly focus by
nightfall for now the PO closing in the stupid over drop down fly wall fall
see the light save like trying to get on the side on it was Mary off of the TP out
but WS him with the call oh fight gone horribly wrong there for BP is and they
they showed a roaring I think can get the lockdown into moderate died
immediately that a just was taken out of him very quickly and nightfall now he
can turn up he's got the agony himself with man to acts can show up to these
fights and the support I mean fly in particular this is a miserable matter for
science here getting themselves pretty caught back up in this game experience
now in fact leading for Aurora so be being can't make too many more of these
He slips hooks. It's a PL hero.
Absolutely can start taking over the game.
Especially once he gets the Orchid as well.
Then these side heroes are not saved even in Abed,
under threat if he's foot pushing.
You know, Spyberth...
...early kills the VP's got.
On the side of a roar, I think Knife will probably...
...probably still quite confident in this game right now.
He's got everything that he's wanted.
He's had the space. He's managed to find the right time to sort of turn up.
start to get a little involved and you said that's not gonna increase and they
always will have right kind of in a way as we're mentioning early the better
team fight unless there's a global to prevent a lot of that
DP has to have to execute pretty nicely in these next few moments they can't make
too many more mistakes in this game or Nightfall will take over yeah this PL
will become a bit too much of a problem
Rora now, feeling confident to hunt. Don't aggressive themselves.
You can also fight back. Mero's gonna get caught at the front lines. He will manage
to buy a bit of time over the stolen slayer fist, but he's not getting out of this.
Mero's gone and Kory just gets completely destroyed there by Tamada.
Oh, was that the desiccrate? It was. He got two-shotted. Desiccrator removes, like, what,
50% of your armor? Gets hit once or twice in a life stealer, just disintegrated.
And they didn't use global so they'll have it for the next move
I think that's something that's been hurting them like a couple of these times the instant use global and not having it for the disengage
So this time flies will hang on to it claim to supports
That's something we should absolutely mention too right is it's 25 kills for VP, but it's 15 on the support right so the course
They're dying, but nowhere near as much as it looks
Talos coming in on the top Aurora, they want to try and push VP off their side of the map.
VP is going to have double BKB timing very soon. So double BKB plus the life stealer.
He's going to find the jump of the globe, what comes after?
I'll bet.
Might just be able to get out of this.
Telekinesis is going to the silence, he's not able to get out to a remnant in time.
He's going to get dumped and taken down.
And his BKB was literally right in front of him. It was like 10 yards away.
Oh my god, what a timing there from Aurora.
Yes, and not just dead, but also having to wait for that courier respawn until he gets the BKB in the game.
That's a pretty brutal death, because they wanted to synergize pretty nicely with the double BKB rage built to fight into Aurora.
That's going to limit them for another two minutes or so.
Aurora, getting more and more comfortable.
I cannot be making these type of mistakes as we've said VP struggled vs Aurora in the
last couple series if I'm not mistaken at least two or three.
The fact that they have equal net worth on the live skier and the PL is concerning.
You can't help but sort of feel the night fall is on the bit of the most safest spot
right now. WS. It's gonna outfly and fly here in the corner. Actually, maybe I didn't actually
see him. They killed mid. The Orc revealed they got tomorrow. Uh-oh. Nightfall started
to do what he does on P.O. I think he's chilling right now. He's like, guys, I got this. I
think VP, they did some really nice pressure, but wanted to be more ahead. Yeah, it was
not enough potentially and stay the light probably wifey he's stuck on a clip
and they know it and he does not want to be kbp out because he can't gonna get
well regardless so yeah he's gone and hell scream might not be as lucky as
well as he is a little ways to run he's gonna try and get the hit on Tamara's
not gonna make the connection house green taken out as well these are way
too many slip-ups from VP.
Yeah, look, they look flashy at the start.
They were getting the kills, but they never really got too far ahead on the gold.
And at this point, things are starting to kind of all turn up nightfall.
They better get their act together as soon as this BKB comes out now for Abed and everybody
respawns.
They need to have something successful go their way, because Aurora is just starting
to dominate the map.
That's pretty much got the full bloodthorn nightfall now.
Yeah, that is a problem.
BKB also finished up for WS, not too long ago.
On his way to the Lotus, they're starting to get all the answers.
KVP, where do you go from here? You've lost control of the map.
This is what you've lost. Control of your own triangle.
I mean, they've just got a smart couple in go right now.
One of these clean core kills.
It does. You're like, you know, playing here.
Given the support, he's not going to really do a whole lot
to change the position of the game and won't even finish him off.
And now indeed not even able to get the easy kills.
Mera's able to walk out alive so we used all three remnants so not gonna have them for at least a hundred seconds or so
At least replenish all of them
Concerns continue to rise for VP got the man to now and tomato at least a way to counterplay that bloodthorn of nightfall
But we're seeing a roar. They're ready to go for them VP
They don't come out of this player right this game is gonna get very very difficult
And the calls there, WS7 has started, these Global Stands will come out and return, so Arbets able to get the BKB and the Sly at Fistoff.
Gonna start trying to fight back against the illusions of Nightfall, but Nightfall can jump over the Dumpelganger in the River Court for now.
Sableye also calls to put the BKB on Run.
The Tomatoes side of him, WS won't manage to quite make the call connection a second time round onto Arbets, so at the least VP able to back off.
They had to use both BKBs to run, not BKBs to kill people and the Global.
Things are falling apart, Owen.
Aurora, they didn't have to expend anything. That was just a casual, you know, the soft commit poke.
Yep, they've got a lot of smuts.
Yeah, VP kind of hard commit into not getting anything.
Fly?
Fly? It's on the front lines and they're gonna find him.
Little awkward with the call on yours timing, but it should not matter as he's burnt down anyway by the Sombrain.
Nightful as you have to pick up the kill. They're still gonna try and fight back getting the jump in the WS.
They'll kill off the Axe.
But the Supernova's out. They're gonna try and focus the Egg, but they can't do enough.
It's the extra success and now catch it on by Farbed and Fly.
The dreamcloyal stunning Fly.
They've got the detection down upon him.
He'll try and run to the safety of the tier 2.
But Nightful closes in upon them.
They might lose Makoto.
No, he gets the phase shift off.
Makoto, he's going to live.
In fact, he jumps in aggression.
He gets another round of spells down on Farbed.
Nightful's illusions continue to pull the Arbed completely back to the base.
Silence clips on the wall.
Intellicence is from Mera.
They're locking Arbed down.
They'll kill off the Ember.
VP just absolutely crumbling and Aurora there starting to make this one look
pretty easy and as I said I don't think Nightball ever really broke a sweat this
game he's chilling. Kori, I think Kori's has been absolute MVP for me in this game
right? His Phoenix we mentioned this is one of those heroes that he tends to just
pop off on that egg popping right into Mato's face the last hit the Sunray
overall and most of these decisions. It was pretty close right they did nearly
find it. It was one more hit, right? It was that blast attack. And as we like to check,
could anyone else have helped out? He was hard. I don't think so, right? It's pretty much on his
own in Tomato. Yeah, no one else can get over to the egg to assist with this. And indeed,
got it down to just needing one more hit. I couldn't quite do it. Stunned his little three of them,
Tomato, Arbet, and Fly. And at that point, this fight, absolutely over. And even at this
stage, Arbet pretty healthy, but he's not actually able to make it back safely. Doesn't have a remnant
at the ready, that was the last one he had there, looks for you to kind of aggressively
leave him with very little ways to run and as long as they did take them, because he's
relatively tanky as December spirit, they could still kill him off, he couldn't get
out of this one, are they?
Yeah, even though Mira, right, he is 0-9, he is having some pretty good impact, his
lift, his catch is over and over again, MVP, you can see their appeal in the pressure.
It's hard to sort of see a way out of this and to turn it around with just how overwhelming
the momentum of Nightfall's PL is against what VP have right now.
They're starting to get rich on everybody too, right?
Kayori's about to have a hex.
Mikoto very soon to have Shivas, the heart upcoming for the Phantom Lancer.
Game has gotten like 10 times more difficult to feel for being VP in just 10 minutes.
Saberlight, he does not have BKB.
Let's see him. He could be in trouble.
And they will.
WS now they get the call on the Washington.
Global Sniper comes out and infest there as well from Tommato in an effort to save him,
but he still ends up burning there to the Bloodthorn Damage. That's Savor like gone.
Tommato?
Rage comes through N, Sniper is there, mirrors him with a telekinesis,
they've got the control, they drop down, the Stupan over, that's both of the cores dead.
Nightful getting the double kill.
Running right through them now at this point.
Yeah, I mean they're probably feeling pretty helpless right now VP.
What do they do to slow down this team of Aurora right now? It looks impossible.
Just imaging way too many kills, even when they were leading, right? They were just giving up some
small things constantly. It was never that huge lead by any means. It was a small 4k lead.
Although they weren't blaming objectives, the objective, one of them that they claimed,
the Aegis in particular, they didn't really use at all, right? It was a death on Tamato at the
Tier 2 had actually led to multiple deaths from his allies afterwards.
Yeah, Rora.
Maybe he started a little rough, but found their footing pretty quickly in this game.
I think we're very much staying as well, you know, nightfall, maybe indeed with the call with the draft.
You know, he cared about the earths, he didn't really care about the lifestealer being left in, and...
Yeah, we're sort of seeing that play outright, because this is not a lifestealer that got crushed in other ways, right?
this life stealer tomato, he had a free start.
He gets his Radiance on the incredible timing,
but just as a team and as a unit,
they're just, we're not able to punish Nightful at all
in this game.
And at this point, Nightful,
he does not care at all about this life stealer whatsoever.
No, he was not getting in touch.
And even when they, I mean, like we said,
but even when they were getting all these kills
on the sports day, we're hemorrhaging some heroes
at the same time too, all over the place.
And honestly, we had the BKB timing, right?
Losing Abed when they were about to get the double BKB timing
when things were at the most critical stage for them.
Really compounding.
Aurora, the 10k lead now with this PL with a heart.
Tomato's gotta be careful, I mean he's gonna get caught by surprise by the Hanks,
they get the catch on a waltz, they're mid of the silence!
Tomato, go get the rage off!
All the other jump into the creep,
sitting as you get back to the safety of the base you can.
Fairly.
That was very close there.
Kaori, with that sneaky Hanks die from the side.
There's so many little ways that they can trip up the life stealer now in the midst of these fights.
And they've got the counters to all the Globals now, right?
They've got ULs on the Codal from a while ago, WS has his Lotus now, too.
That's nice, though.
Giving information.
How do you kill them from the Aegis with the Heart?
They don't have damage versus this Heart now at this point.
Yes, I have a light nearly dying there to the sort of the bloodthorn and the illusions
alone.
They don't really have, I mean they really have like AoE in a way to clear out these
solutions by any means either at this point.
I can't shoot with the band of lights there.
WS get it!
They get the job, the telekinesis is there and the call on the wards and tomatoes
gonna try and run or get the rage off!
They'll lift them out, but that does force out the global.
They keep just having a run.
Can't make aggressive plays themselves with their BKBs.
How do you push back this PL?
Oh, I bet.
Trying to head out in the mid lane to sort of grab the creep wave, but the dream calls there.
That's what the BKB has to do. Crush there for Saber-Lite.
Gets to jump in onto the 2 of them, they find Mirra.
Now they'll turn to WS, bringing down the axe.
Double kill for Tomato.
Hex comes out off towards him.
Can they kill off the axe?
They can't. The U's will throw him up in the air.
It's sure that the Supernovas have success.
And Tomato will get taken down.
Nightfall ready to clean up, chasing down Saberlight up towards the base.
Saberlight will get glimmered.
We find for now Nightfall turns his attention over towards Fly,
instead with Glimmer already used to say Saberlight cannot save himself. Fly to fall.
House Cream also won't be able to play stuff out of this one.
Chase is there. Makodai.
Yule's upon Yule's.
Hang on the bushwack, he's gonna make them work for this House Cream at least.
He's actually gonna live.
I think she's gonna live.
A little bit too slippery for them, should be fine.
TP's up to a few stacks.
Theme on the back in the base.
High force keeping the push on.
The creep wave comes in.
You see that house beam has a maelstrom?
I think that's has all the tail of this team.
He's a guy who cannot kill the pill illusions.
I need to just try to wave clear.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Damage now coming out from Makoto, Barasmin, done!
And that boss is in the base pretty much fine.
My move's gonna push him off these barrets!
Nobody, Kaori, sitting behind him as well too, just in case of things.
I think the plan is on.
And timing is pretty much impossible unless there's a massive throw that comes out from
Aurora.
The timing is for VP.
They just didn't hit them all.
They didn't get that snowball that they needed versus this PL by any means.
That started it a little.
Not as clean as they needed it to be by any means.
I'm sure Mira's gonna be pretty alleviated though after this game.
He's gonna be like,
I died like five times.
He was never worried. It was a space created sort of situation.
He's like, guys, don't keep killing me. It's fine.
He's like, I'm making them pinatas.
You know, when you kill them, you're gonna get more.
He was sort of falsely boosting the morale of VP to be like,
Well, look at all these kills we're getting in Lundfarer's Light Assault, part of my plan.
Doesn't matter that I'm dying, still gonna be able to make those moves later on, and he has, you know, big kind of blinks as forces into telekinesis, you know, he's been a big part of getting these core kills, having that extra bit of lockdown, and a nice deal as well, ready to play with the sharpshooter for the next fight.
That's what all of us do, I would say, when we die, it's like whatever. Space. When you guys die on course.
Oh, then the keyboard's coming out, you're gonna hear about it in the team chat, yeah.
It's fair.
They're just getting reclaimed, not a full Scotty yet for Nightfall, but as I said,
doesn't even need it, can just go and occupy that high ground.
Life Stealer has finished up an Abyssal, VP, they're looking for an All-In-Play.
I'll see what I can get.
Well, let's get the chance to jump WS, and they'll kill him off.
Global comes out now.
Can they look for Nightfall, and he's able to jump out of the base, and VP, can they
chase anything more here?
It's not a bad kill.
They got our Axe going for a minute, probably puts the stuff to the push for now.
Yeah, they'll probably stay in the area though, because they can still fight on Aurora even as this 4-man unit, since Global was used.
Enemy MPL is unkillable.
Alpha's ready to come back in and...
Pulling out the Tomato, I mean can they jump in and get him with the Crush?
Let's see if they can go for it.
He's go tanky though, and it's PL straight away, and Alpha just turns over towards Stabilize.
Stabilize, Stabilize, taking out Tomato, has to put the Rage.
Trying to turn towards Merus, see if they can at least bring down the Ruby.
They can, they'll get the Miracle!
Miracle the dreamcalls under the boat for them by the comes out from Saber like that. We're spaced out here on Aurora
They'll start to back away
It's like change and signs on a waterbed forces himself to put the PKB look for the crush pretty good kills. That's a gem
They can pick that one up from the Phoenix. So getting some decent sequences. It's expensive. You're sure it's a buyback
But as you said getting the gem changing hands back onto their side
They'll absolutely take that use to the buyback from Saber like I mean they have to do things that are absolutely crazy
this game to have any type of chance right so a great little catch there at
the least let's see if they can get anything else while these two heroes are
dead and they find something.
They say hell's cretin not just for the mouse but now with a full Mjolnir ready to be that kind of extra little bit of a solution or potential solution against the PL.
I don't blame him honestly it sounds so cloudy but at least throwing the Mjolnir on the light
you were in while.
Well they're though caught by a nasty surprise he did not expect Aurora to still have the
few of them at that part the map
that's tomorrow's next item looking DKB necessary so he still just gets
killed in pretty much immediately once his rage goes down nightfall 25 has been
hit only killed him once and that was literally at the start of the game that
was that didn't count that was kind of before the games that is actually true
that was the only time he died where he'd already used doppel turning up to the
lane before the horn had sounded so yep that he'll count this one as a flawless
game nightfall tower to fall ever dead for a very long time
that's the call they get the job but the hex comes in that's gonna be tomato
gone no buyback on him sure of about 300 or so gold just net it's nothing he
really good. He's even quite tanky. Just way too much damage that Aurora has.
Another in the corner then on the mid. Save a like.
Ask the BKB to run this one off. The racks have been cleaned up though on the bottom lane.
Mega creeps are now out. They do lose Koi. Big burst coming in from our bed.
Very aggressive to try and at least get these supports. Gotta be careful now with the BKB
about to come to an end. Knife 4 moving over towards the squishier arrows.
as that's Hellscream out, no buyback on him. Stabilite will make it back to the
Vantage, but indeed this game is over. Gigi is called Aurora. Take game one, and yeah,
Nightfall is eyesighted. I think he's gonna say that was easy. Yeah, this was, you know,
Nightfall in his element on the PL. They did not have a single way to deal with him.
Yeah, I think for the win. VP overall, like, they had this advantage, and I was
saying, you know, pretty decent, right? A little bit more probably necessary, just the
The use of the Aegis was pretty awful, right?
Mata dies, they lose Fly afterwards, I think they lost maybe perhaps another hero too,
so VP, if they're going to run this type of draft, especially until like a PL draft
and heavy teamfight, you have to play it extremely clean.
Can't really be any of these mistakes.
A couple of these Globals also, right, just being popped randomly, it causes some deaths
afterwards, so I think for VP, just need to play with less mistakes, and Aurora, I mean
they can run something like this back.
Absolutely, you've got to watch out for these PL picks from Nightfork, this one was pretty
pretty disgusting how I played out right they just didn't have any way or any
they didn't make enough sort of moves to threaten this PL at any point at the
game never nightfall as I say had a lovely time here and this was even
instance for a lifestealer as we saw in her tomorrow he got free farm at the
start he got a crazy radiance into our timing but they just weren't able to
play with it enough to get the win here VP Aurora they'll be able to take this
This first game of the best at three.
So what are your thoughts on politics?
Politics.
I was talking about the game, dude.
No, I mean within a team.
Like a team politics?
I'm not a big fan.
I mean, some people enjoy it more than others.
Like, I think, you know, Sam, William, prime suspects.
But generally, I don't know, just play the game
and focus on the game.
Yeah.
I feel like something interesting
that we were talking about right before we walked out.
We were.
We were sitting on the bench.
I mean while we were sitting here. Oh, yeah, yeah, we've been here this entire time. Yeah, of course
No, but like so I feel like we have this game kind of like figure out what the game was good
Everything's going their way that nicely set up that the game is like cooking
Mm-hmm, and then they have a moment of crumble
Yeah, and they just never like find their groove again. Yes. Why do you think that is Jenkins as a former pro player?
Well, uh a current pro player actually
Uh, stand in for Team Canada, of course.
Oh, cool!
You're on Team Sweden, right?
So we're gonna be opponent.
Maybe, maybe not.
Yeah, okay.
Who knows?
We'll see.
Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, obviously, for me, there's, um, these guys are from my region.
Uh, they played in NA for a long time.
Even Saberlight, there's, there's something, you know, uh, there's history there, right?
I understand for you, obviously.
There's a lot more history, but as a fan, as an NA fan, it's like, I see these guys, I want them to succeed.
Mm-hmm.
Really badly and so it's like in this game their draft was really good
And I felt like for this tournament they've been playing very well, but the
In this case the draft was good in the play was bad
It was really good for a long time and I said to you like team liquid will
Also make these mistakes right they will have moments where they are trolling those are the words you use and I liked it
Like they're legit just trolling. They're just being gamers doing something stupid, but then they get it together
together. You know, it's like three minutes of trolling and then they go do what's right
on the map. It feels like in this game they just crumbled after one mistake.
And I think that's the thing with tier one teams where like you kind of understand Dota
and you understand that like it's not just like one thing goes wrong and now you can
no longer fight. It's not like that's 300 gold or like that's a thousand gold that you
lost in that one move is actually making a difference whether you can do the move or
not. It's about the placement on the map and like how you catch them and the opportunities
that you can find for yourself and I feel like VP don't display like the ability to
do that.
Yeah.
Like I feel like as soon as something goes wrong, the entire mindset is just like, oh,
if we didn't fuck that up, we would have still had a chance to win this game.
Instead of being like, all right, so what's the next move?
Like this is gonna work out.
Like what do we do next?
What is like, how do we progress forward for when we're at?
And they kind of just get stuck and it does that, that sucks.
So what is the play there?
Because like in my mind I'm thinking,
do you just have a team psychologist
and the psychologist watches the comms and says,
like, hey guys, you need to assess the situation,
say, okay, we screwed up, we're now 5K gold behind
wherever we were, I mean obviously they're not gonna
say this out loud, it's very much cleaner comms.
But now, like here's the play,
like here's the new state that we can play in,
now we need to wait for them to walk into a high ground
or let's camp this ward, like obviously the state changes,
where you can't just run at them and be aggressive,
but there's some new game state,
which is perfectly winnable, right?
But the player should be good enough to identify that,
so there's something psychological happening there.
It might be, I mean, I think for me,
it comes from confidence and experience.
I think when you're on a team that you've been losing a lot,
you start only seeing all the ways
that you could potentially lose.
I think this is a very common trend also for people at home
that play pubs 24-7, and you play like,
you play like a hundred pubs in the span of a month. At that point you've lost a game in every
single imaginable way. Like you've lost a game where you're 100k ahead, you've lost a game where
you're 100k behind. You're always just like this feeling of like oh this could go wrong, that could
go wrong, that could go wrong. It builds within you right? Because you've seen it all. And then
suddenly you're no longer thinking about how do I win this game. All you can see is like all the
potential ways that you lose. And you end up being a much worse player because of that. I think
I think it's something that sometimes happens when you overexpose yourself to Dota, and if you're on a team that's losing a lot, you're screaming a lot, you're losing a lot, it's not going well.
They did say the bootcamp is getting kind of long. Like, this might be happening.
Exactly. I think these are the signs of you going through those things.
It's super interesting. To me, the best team at not having this happen is Team Spirit.
Like it seems to me like this team at least when they're playing at peak, which is often
Any game they can just have something bad happen. They can be 15k gold behind
They're always really good at identifying like what they need to do to win the game from each possible game state
whether they're super far behind whether they're ahead and
It would be interesting to compare the comms of both teams like to see
What is the difference in the mindset within the game? Who's even who's saying it?
Who's making the call, you know, like here's how we need to play I think sometimes it's also just like
for let's say your VP
If you're always very hyped when you're winning and then it's dead quiet when you're losing it's like that that's enough right?
It makes the it's that's the tone of like I see where you're going bad or like, you know
Whereas like I think some teams like this is one of the big advantages teams like come out that are like
Emotionally the same no matter what it's just like the game feels the same whether you're losing or winning. It's just a different state of mind
It's a different state of the game and you try to do the best with what you can in that situation
And it's easier to do that. I think on teams that are less emotional
It's a it's a super cool point
Obviously
We can see that with tundra
From from tournament to tournament that like no matter how they're doing in the first couple of days of group stage
I'm triggered. They always can win, you know, what's triggering you is Jelmener leaves being thrown at me doing
Just doing their job
I can't trust park workers these days.
You can't?
You can't.
Why not?
They throw leaves at you.
Oh, I mean anybody who's throwing things at me I would not trust.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
In general.
Anyway, speaking of throwing VP, that was a big throw.
That was a big throw.
And I'm sure they're not.
I really feel like this was the game to win.
Yeah.
All, speaking of, you know what's really funny?
What?
I thought something was really funny about this game.
Rubik has obviously not won between these two teams, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Mira was dying like a hundred times.
He was crying.
Bro, he was feeding his brains out.
That was crazy.
Like, he was just dying and dying and dying and dying.
Is this a form of death compilation?
It might be.
Oh no.
Don't do it to him.
The bro was having a hard time.
I mean, you might think we're like 20 minutes
into the game, Jenkins.
Let me tell you, we are not 20 minutes into the game.
I remember.
Some of the stats on Amira is absolutely hilarious.
There's been a few tournaments that Mira and Kaori have like, some of the highest average deaths.
The top three highest average deaths in the tournament.
And then you look at the KDA and it's like, Mikoto, Nightfall, you know.
So I'm not excusing this. Obviously this was quite silly.
Yeah.
But in general, like this can't happen. They are these type of players.
Like Mira's, this guy's crazy aggressive.
Oh for sure, do you know this meme about like crack addicts that don't have any money and like
You know they make it happen
You know what I mean? No, I don't but I like cracks though. It's like it's like if you're a crack addict
Yeah, you don't wake up thinking like I don't have any money so I can't get any crack
You like make it happen. You do it. Okay. Make it happen. You know
I see I see where you're going. That's like Mira would like like he doesn't let it
He doesn't let it stop him because he died five times. Yeah, he'll still make it happen
Right. No matter what cost he's gonna do. He'll make that play happen. He'll make sure that they find that win
I respect that. I do too.
That's resilience in a really like unhealthy way. Yeah.
But it's... I mean sometimes it's not good for you.
Dota players are not happy. Maybe sometimes he should not have made it happen.
He shouldn't have. But he makes it happen.
He did win the game. He does not quit.
It's out of my chest
It's out of my mind
I don't think you're gonna do
Excited to hear it's gonna kill me
But I don't wanna let you see
We're looking for the most cool way to live
I just want to see
This life has to be
That's like all that you do
Oh oh oh
We can move
This is not it
It shows a lot in a size book
We can move
and if you don't believe it, then you'll never know who you are
This is like the most strange moment you've ever been in your face
With this very small, tiny, just one to see
This is like, I see you
Yes, I know that's what you do
You're the one, you're the one
This is like, I see you
Yes, I know that's what you do
I can't see you
As my lover's watching you
I feel strange things
When I'm around you
Things like sunshoes
But it says that I'm a tree, and now the wings of mankind will just get me to this room now.
I've been away, and I swear it's true.
Welcome back!
Come back!
Between 29 and 11, we've only got our screens!
And we have Aurora vs Pro going head to head in the best of treats.
The final series of the group stages for both of them, depending on if there's tiebreakers or not.
And Aurora won Game 1, which is super important for them, because winning this series right here,
looks them into the upper bracket, and then actually, they don't have to play tiebreakers for Virtus Pro.
They're in a position where, if they win, they're maybe even able to still go up a bracket,
But if they lose they might even go get eliminated and then a lot is also dependent on other series that are going on at
Same time, but a lot of pressure especially for Virtus Pro and
We're gonna focus on the game too very soon
But there was one thing that my guys you mentioned on the bench just now in the park that I also wanted to highlight
Because yes, the Rubik won and that was a unusual event
figure that put it put it in a picture form
It's a pretty rough picture guys. This is so many games near 60 picks of Rubik
Sub 40% win rate Brian
You know all I remember is last dream league
In see in group stage one jacquero had like a 30% win rate
And then as the turn it was obviously in like the early stage of the tournament all the teams are in there
And later on in the tournament it actually leveled out to be a 50%
So it's I always look at these with the greatest all like Rubik as a hero
Could still be very good and there's a reason people are picking him
I think he makes drafts and blurry like block pick stuff like underlord and everything and
Sometimes when you get a hero that like simplifies drafts you like over pick it you
You know, you don't really think about when it you it fits your draft
You don't like there's teams that know like here's Rubek's weaknesses that need to be covered and other teams don't know this kind of stuff
So I'm just saying I'm not gonna be as skeptical every time I see a Rubik
But as the tournament goes on I'll get a more definitive answer. Okay. I guess we're only in day
It's more like five five. It's like what you know in dream league in February
It's like during the season 28 like the second group stage is longer than the first group stage
So you learn a lot more that time this time we're just going straight into the playoffs
Yeah, but I kind of want to do like a mental reset of like yeah
these are the heroes that have been winning or not but also like
What are the teams that are making it further in the tournament still picking?
So people are still picking Rubik at the end of the tournament.
I'll trust that maybe it was just you, Sharon.
I don't like the heroes inherently bad, but I think you made a really good point of the teams that know
what the drawbacks of the hero are and how to enable it and how to cover for it
and how to make it the best version of itself are the ones that are finally successful.
Yeah.
And I think, for example, Aurora, in this game, even, let's be real, Rubik was not the reason they won or lost.
It was completely unrelated to Rubik.
If anything else they really probably had like a net negative impact on there. We saw in the clips
Yeah, yeah on their like performances game and I
Think that's like key thing to be able to recognize as a drafter is like what it actually is working for us
And what is making this win and what are the situations that you know?
We're picking it and that makes it good because I think like yeah these both these things are the zero
Before the series at a zero someone would probably not like
Because you understand the hero super well when you just got unlucky four times in a row
You know what I mean?
It could be.
Run it back.
It could be.
I'm just kidding.
Some people smell Parkinson's and like, it could be just lucky.
But most likely there's some sort of like logic to it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
So we are in the draft for game two and a little bit of a change-up.
We opened up with Hoot Meek on the side of VP and Storm Spirit coming out on Aurora on
their first pick, which I personally was not expecting.
I do want to quickly follow up your guys' bench conversation because you guys were talking about like teams that are able to focus on winning despite, you know, what happens during the game.
I'm curious, Aiden, like what your experience was, if you take that like outside of the game and you take it with like heroes strategically, like a Rubik and you've, like how do you identify, we've lost five games in a row on Rubik, like how do you know, or not, there's never like a no thing, but like what's that discussion like?
I'm gonna have a story for this actually.
There's a point when...
I was a patch where CM was quite decent.
And I really enjoyed playing CM.
And I kept telling Nara, like, I think CM's pretty good in this draft.
And then I was like, I don't really know.
And then, like, this would happen a few times.
And then eventually at some point I was like, you know, Nara, bro.
I feel like you're not, like, picking CM for me.
Even though I, like, asked for, like, 10 hikes.
And he's like, have you checked, like, our Dota buff gauge?
And I'm like
He opened up thought about when he showed me like the last ten times that I played see him
We had lost every single game. No, like I know in that moment. I thought like well
It's not because I'm I see him, you know, like I don't think I'm doing that bad
You know what I mean? It's not like I don't feel like I'm like feeding. It's like it's just the games
You know are just so much but I think ultimately at some point you also have to be realistic with yourself and see it be like
You know, maybe it's a team that doesn't know how to play with it
Maybe it's I don't like utilize it the right way, but for whatever reason it's not working out
You know I said and I think that's like your responsibility as a drafter or like whoever's in charge of that
to acknowledge that like
We can't just keep running it back on based on like all the time. Oh, yeah
That's funny. Yeah, that's really funny. So like the whole time he was like kind of hoping
Yeah, it's like trying to be nice
Eventually it was like bro. All right. Well, here's the reality my friend
reality check we're not gonna be playing any see I do like the idea though of
instead of saying like okay you're just dog shit FCM yeah we you just as a team
yeah well it could be anything but let's just like kick the can down the road
bench it for a little while and then maybe pick it up again later maybe it
works out yeah yeah I mean this was definitely a thing we did on the could
we would retire here is like temporarily yeah you would ask me show like do you
you want to play in the ball and he's like, no, it's, it's required.
And then you know, like, that's a good way to say it.
Then that means like he does, you just don't, isn't feeling it right now for the
team or like he's not feeling it for himself or for whatever reason,
he just doesn't want to play it at the moment.
You know, to be in a like gut instinct and stuff,
this has actually been a topic of conversation going on in the pan in the
green room. Sometimes I've had this trip for whatever reason, it's been a theme.
I feel like you don't always have to understand why something is or isn't
working. Like it's useful, of course, but like just because you don't understand
Why it isn't working doesn't mean like I have to keep trying until I understand why it's not working, right?
Sometimes you just got to retire the hero. You can try something else that might work like you're not looking to make that thing work
You're looking to make anything work. Yeah
You can like I like the idea of retired because like with Dota players like you can just unretire like
Definitely, and it really depends on your nickname to be honest true some nicknames can unretire more than others
Yes, I just imagine when like Nietzsche said invokers retired. It's not like a permanent thing, right?
like it. No, it's like for that tournament. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, any amount of time in
the sense given the situation. I like that. In the timeout. It's being the, you know,
drastic. It seems like Rubik's been retired. Yeah, it does look like he's got, he's got
retired. So far, three out of four supports have been picked. Aurora still has the opportunity.
So interesting fact about Storm is also another one of those heroes that in this,
between these two teams, they seem to pick it a lot and it just is not working.
But I guess the circumstances right if you look at the bands like almost everything is banned on like all the materials are out
And they probably knew that this would be a situation
So they just want to snatch yours up quite early on
Because I feel like whenever I've seen voice for it the team has lost this one this hero to me as one of those heroes
But either it's really really good because the player knows what to do with it and has a proper item build and it seems a lot like one of
Those events where it's there's like neither
I don't see like any player that I'm like wow when he plays voice for it
He always wins it must be like you felt on CM though people it must feel good to play or something
I think I think it's like everything else is banned out
You know what you want to do in the game like it'll be sold in that job and this hero can do it
But it never actually works out like I said voice for it never ever is like that
You know like you didn't get embers you pick boy. Yeah, it's like it's not the same
He's like a strategical crutch is what you're saying
Yeah, I think so. And I think like, but deep down in your soul, you just know it ain't the same.
I feel that, bro. I feel that.
The Venom has a pick is interesting.
The hero did receive some nerfs over time in the 7.41 letter patches, but I think his laning stage is still quite strong.
And if you're looking at like a Windranger or Venom, you're generally accepting your lane's gonna be tough.
I think Centaur's a good answer in the game because you have the Stampede obviously against Venom's slows of control.
you have the return against Windranger's focus fire, but I am a bit concerned with how the
landing stage is going to go. Centaur is not good at retreating to his camps to farm. If
he's trying to cut the wave, unless he gets a super early Vanguard, I think he will feed
to the Venom answer. You got the tank creeps in order to cut the wave of Centaur. I don't
know how they're going to get out of this landing phase. How would you feel about this
safe lane matchup or like the...
I mean the things that speak for Sampar are that people generally like these are both
the major and then are low damage like attack damage yeah so like the retaliate is quite annoying
and it's kind of a choice if you want to actually hit him or not I see yeah yeah and in that way
it's quite nice uh I would say because it's Savor it's not really like his preferred playstyle
I think if it's like some Amar, I think they know how to make these kinds of lanes work.
I think for Saber, it's a bit tougher.
Like being like soaking it off and soaking it up in a nice way, I think it's not as like...
Not playing to the strengths.
Hmm.
Well, what are his strengths?
Chilling the enemy guy.
Eyes were on over again.
I was snowballing the game and making moves and having like...
A hero that's gonna have impact in the game, even if they're looking for his stuff.
I see.
Yeah, that makes sense. That checks out with his real cool stuff.
Yeah, I think that's like when he's at his peak.
Speaking of peaking, where are we? What are we thinking for Tomatoes?
Last pick here.
I mean, I know Jenkins is a big fan of Tomatoes. What do you think he's gonna play?
Something against Wins.
I think the Lunar looks great here.
Great call-up.
What is it about the Lunar that you like?
Actually, not a huge fan of Lunar.
It's like, for me at least, it's a nice generic pick.
Like, it's one of the carries you feel comfortable, not comfortable, but you don't mind picking into, like, you don't know, you're blind picking it, right?
Yeah, I know what your offline matchup is.
Yeah, I can respond. I was afraid to respond, so I felt like you guys were setting me up to make fun of me.
I wasn't.
But I'll tell you, he does that behind your back, yeah.
Yeah, well, right, privately.
Luna, to me, is just, I'm picking a hero to round out the draft nicely, you know?
It's a hero that has good farming, you have like magic damage, you have physical damage,
decent scaling, you're always going to do fine in lane, like it's just, it's easy.
I don't think it's overpowered by any means, but it's like you're saying, they didn't have
last pick, they didn't know what was coming here for WS, so they picked something that
was just like generically good.
I will say I do think Luna, I liked your analysis Aiden on the, on what Void Spirit
is mid.
Luna is that is that a carry for sure because she offers nice lane push she
She's a good ages carrier
She
Benefits the team globally if she ery behind the hero is really good. Yeah, but then in practice. It's never but I actually think I
Literally was saying I literally think I was coping with my description of how Luna plays because like I think I pick her in this time
And every time I pick her and my lane doesn't go very well
I'm really wishing I was a different hero. So I actually think she's incredibly reliant on her lane
I do think the Beastmaster like the most important thing about the off-laner pick was that it boots Luna out
Yeah, and it threatens her so I think they have that in spades with like Stormsphere roaming the the Vinno coming through the portal so
I'm just I'm scared. I've seen Tamato do this no flame on him
I've seen him be like 0 and 5 on terribly like minute 10
Yeah, and I think there's a few games that come to mind and I'm concerned that I might be the case guys. I have a problem
I think the way you guys talked about this draft and the development of this draft versus
The way you talked about the previous draft and the development of that draft
From from my understanding Virtus. Pro's gonna hard lose this game
You know what?
Tell me argument. Okay. We said they're a great draft last game
And we believed in them and they are absolutely
Okay, but this time they're apparently not gonna have a good time
But I'm just saying we were wrong, so what do we know about Dota?
That's all I'm saying.
You were clearly wrong, so what do we know?
They might absolutely smash them this time around.
They might?
I don't think so, but they might.
There's always a chance with Dota.
You should go back to being Parker's agent, you were an American representative for VP.
What?
I'm saying like, I'm saying all logic defies it, but they might still win.
I'm down for that, I'm down for that analysis, I agree.
I mean, I think Aurora, better team on paper, I like their draft better this game, and we'll
just see if VP can make it happen.
Well, we'll see that right now, ODPixel in front of the microphones, and Pump Jim found
us first.
The game is on, ladies and gentlemen, between Aurora and BP.
Now let's have a look to your BP, because step it up a little bit off the game, because
They ended up suffering for quite a bit of them.
They had a hopeful look and start, but then when he started going downhill, it kept going down.
Did you see that level one?
Okay, I'm pretty sure I saw that.
He was using his boar and patrolling it.
Oh, and it bumped into the smoke.
And it bumped into the smoke and they insta-pained it.
Nightfall immediately pinged the smoke bottom.
So they know.
Oh, there we go.
They should have dodged the boar.
You gotta be careful.
I know, it's kinda cool.
Yeah, don't see people do that too often with a little patrol thing, but absolutely
I mean absolutely
Thanks for that
Because he was setting up through the twin gate
And now Nightfall is actually taking a bit of damage himself here
How can you carry hope in the face of the war?
Nothing ended up happening of it
But I was just thinking at least point out
Because I don't really see that happen too often here
Nightfall
Is under a ward and Fly is potentially looking maybe to go for an early first blood play
Okay, let's see if I can do it with the Stratham down here, VP.
Okay.
Meanwhile, Toppe, they did the same thing they did before in Aurora, by the way.
They killed the range creep with Double Boar.
Looks like it's not going to be an attempt.
For the kill.
Okay, interesting stuff.
Chai, that was just really cool.
I haven't seen people, you know, block with like smoke things in a very long time, so...
Yeah, good stuff in WS.
Yeah.
Nightfall, and you know what's funny is like...
WS was the one who pinged it. It was Nightfall of course. The guy who loves to ping.
And also the guy who got first blooded last game. He was very much locked in it, like not getting first blooded.
It was making sure that he watched all the information present to him to ensure that he knew where they were.
And the positioning right, that's where he technically died on the other side last time.
Literally exacting that spot on the dire. So yeah, very cool stuff.
And now we actually have to talk about the lanes a little bit here. The storm versus the void spirit.
I mean, Makoto should have a pretty good time versus Op-Ed.
Have a bit of a lead top, Miro.
Did have a bit of a top's entrance into the game before in the last game.
But this is a very strong Beastmaster pick.
I'm actually surprised this made it all the way to the end.
It is like Silencer's nightmare.
Playing versus Lichen and Beastmaster.
Just get his balls on you and it's miserable.
Just summons in general.
They either scout you or they just kill you.
It's kind of both that case for Silencer.
It can be very difficult to play.
in lane and mid-game, so let's see how they do it.
Dwarf as Mira, taking a bit of a beating top.
There's a lot of damage, but he's gonna be fine,
and in turn, WS will be able to trade back pretty nicely,
and that's, yeah, I'm only gonna get better and better
really for WS Ryze to send this lane.
The amount that this Beastmaster can do
in terms of damage in the laning phase.
It'd be pretty obnoxious to lane against.
And overall, when you pick Luna,
you wanna be able to kind of dominate the lane in a way.
It's like this is a lane that's not gonna be like that
for it to model by any means.
Meanwhile, Bottom, I think there's a similar vein for Aurora.
This is like Aiden was talking about.
It's kind of low damage heroes early on,
so the Centaur's Retaliate can absolutely thrive down here.
And the fact that they have this hoodwink behind is one of the highest damage supports,
could absolutely see them get an exchange down here on the side of VP.
Yeah, I know. Completely different style, of course, right for Nightfall.
You know, playing a PL and then playing the carry Wimranger,
they just operate completely differently right as caps.
Yes, much more involved, going to be fighting a lot more, but yeah, Aurora, it does feel like they have a very good entrance into this game.
When last game they didn't really have the best entrance in it and then ended up kind of dominating it, that's why I have some pretty big concerns for VP.
Sure.
Now, we'll see what sort of potential Riot Arbit can come out with on the void spirit, right? Just not, not really the hottest of the mid-heroes right now.
It's really struggling, and the game that it ended up winning yesterday so that we saw the win rate deviate, it's because it got gifted in agonist, right? I believe it was last night, so...
wasn't able to just snowball because of that, so we'll have to see how that void spirit ends up
enduring. It's also a void spirit picked into a lion, right? So there's going to be that impale,
that hex that's always going to be there to be very annoying for him also.
Yeah, I mean they've got good catch right now. Lion, beast, storm with the vortex,
we're ready for the shackle shot, lots of ways to mess with the void spirit.
Absolutely. On paper, definitely looks difficult for BP. Execution, let's see if they can have a
bit of a better time. That is one thing to be said, right? Fly a couple of the globals, left
something to be desired. It hemorrhaged some kills when perhaps they didn't want to in the early game.
Mira is incredibly low to go look for this rune and to secure it for Mikoto.
Don't alone could be enough to set something up here against our bed. Mira is so low health here. Oh
my goodness. If we get the pickup on the water rune, Remnant's gonna hit into the December
8th. Mira is gonna get taken down first plus the fly and now Hellstream's turned up with rotation,
comes in with the bushback, Makoto's in trouble, it's going to be the both of them dead double kill
of live. Nira's showing them again with a 100 HP to kill, I'm like he's going to die for sure if
they throw anything onto him and they absolutely do. Nice move from House Cream, swinging all the way
from bottom to joint as well and that's a juicy creep wave for Oben too. That is Oben's happy with
that, getting the chance to get involved with the double kill, taking no quarter range from himself
Yeah, he's able to heal up and apple just soak in this massive creep wave. It's coming in under his tower
That's really weird from here. I was like, does he have some tangos coming on the correct click?
He has a mango on lion as well too instead of having the extra regen so hey
I just saw last game those early deaths ended up working out in the longhorns. Yeah, you know a death here and there for mirror
And overall be you know part of the plan for Aurora's winning strategy. I mean look at the lanes
They're destroying the lane, so perhaps that is the case.
And also, if he's not on the table like this, they're able to deal with him.
Enough magic would sort of burn him down and just slow him.
Slowly but surely bring him out, and we'll see again though in the mid.
Further focus being put onto Makoto, so they can get him a second time round.
He's okay.
He's gonna be fine, blood grenade misses.
Acornshot does bounce so well, but it's not enough to kill him.
Makoto survives this time.
And they're putting so much attention because of how devastating those lanes went.
The second bit, I mean, I was saying, House Cream, it's a nice rotation to secure the rune, right?
And help out Mikoto, but Staple Light suffered heavily because of it.
They were able to isolate him, pick him off, and now his last hits are looking pretty trim on that side of our bottom.
When he doesn't have the backup of that hoodwink.
Oh my goodness, look at this! Already devastating!
Talking about finding people low HP last time around Mirov, he was the one that was low HP this time around.
He finds Tamano, who's super low in the jungle, won't kill him, but definitely gives Tamano quite a rude awakening.
He almost got him because of the tail and back because he died, he had 20% spell and it almost was the threshold so
This is one of those heroes that doesn't feel as bad as dying for sure
We'll see in the mid
The curse happened to Makai, so I have a Makai to those
Pretty chill right now, has the haste rune in the bottle
Necessary
Having focus still being put on this mid area, six of them have been hit by Arbet
The fact that Luna is pushed out of her lane, they've taken the time, I mean, I've got massive concerns.
WS has got to have this Dominator at record pace with Arcane Boots,
and this is a very good game for the home of Overlord to just really take over.
Nobody deals with this creep in this game.
Yeah, that's very true.
Like, literally nobody.
Xen'Thul doesn't want to be hitting it, and a Void Spirit certainly doesn't want to be hitting it.
Nope.
And Mikoto now does get a Power Rune, looking to make a bit of a rotation over here.
Okay, they're going to go for 7 minutes.
Mm-hmm.
Nobody has to come in.
Oh man, MKYORI's probably sitting there like, nice job you killed the Venomance instead of getting your Shrine there, you went for me.
Go in the way of Aurora.
Yeah, we said, you know, for Aurora.
In that last game, they didn't have the best entry.
This one, they're having a pretty much perfect start into things.
Mikoto, of course, dying the once,
but either way, it gets involved in two kills afterwards.
A dream start for them right now.
And the fact that Luna, I mean,
Tamato is level five.
He's pushed out of lane completely.
Yeah, this Luna is.
Struggle City, really.
Even though Tamato had a very good start last time.
This one's not going to be the case,
does drive a buffing ahead. Ciro does not like to play from behind by any means.
Corey, he's quite useless for them, he's just sort of planted himself in the middle lane.
Gonna go for the jump on him, get him out of this with the two supports.
Makoto trying to turn on supply, mirrors turned up, stun, we'll clip on to flight.
Text the follow-up, no chance of survival, WS also moving over towards the mid.
Makoto, wanting to chase on further. Can't really go for much more though, Arpett's got a shield, Brute.
The second, I have a beast. If he turns up, you run away. This is the strongest here on the map by far right now.
Once he turns up, you have to be incredibly careful.
Two sets of axe spam will just kill pretty much anybody here at this point.
I'm determined enough to go back up to try and find Tamato.
How much further forward is he gonna push? They have vision of him, so they know exactly the direction he went.
Mira is gonna stalk him. They might be able to find Tamato here.
If they get the Stun Hex in a raw, it's a good amount of duration and they're gonna see him-
OOOOOOOH!
What the mark there, Mira!
And now perhaps gonna get Counter-Ganked themselves.
This would be the dream if they could kill the Beastmaster here with this three-man rotation.
Let's see how it'll safely plays WS.
They need to do anything to just alleviate and give some space to the target.
He's already out. WS, he knows that they're gonna be hunting in his direction.
Great scan.
I'm here out for the twin gate as well. So nothing to be found there off this move from VP
Picture perfect early game almost of me getting close to a 3k lead pre 10 minutes
And the Kodo with the movement that they made tops into a scan cuts the creep wave mid gonna get some pressure on the tower as well
Like what just farmen enough
Can use focus fire creeps. He's waiting for spent our you're not gonna focus fire the center
You're gonna kill yourself if you do so he's just looking to maximize right now
I can see to take away that extra little bit of farm from VP side of the map whilst he's up there
They are in a very good position here. WS now also being able to back up finish off some stacks. The Dominator is finished
Level 6 has been hit from tomorrow. Is he gonna join his team and potentially look for a play?
I mean that doesn't sound great obviously when you're playing the Luna, but
Might be something necessary to hold the mid tower for the 10 minute power
It's not gonna be bottom, it is up top!
Ah, bet, he's gonna spread the plague!
Pressed is on, and Cahoto for now!
Oh, it's a good shackle in a power shot, though!
A lot of burst would just completely destroy Fly!
Oh, being support versus Venomance are also all your core just jumps into you and spreads the plague on you.
He's dead immediately.
The cut-up gets himself another power wound as well.
All three cores at the top.
Mid pressure also coming in, Catapult is here.
Plague words we'll add up to. How do they want to respond? And do they want to respond is the question.
They are going to continue to try to hold mid. WS is going to send some creeps.
And no one can really push back against this right now. No, they can't. They have to just maximize
where else they can. But the thing is there's just pressure on all fronts, so. I bet they can find Mara.
They will
I'll get the lion. He's the sacrifice today. It seems I mean in it as we still lost game
It really doesn't matter when he dies now sandwiching perhaps kari is looking for a play here
From a code I will see the eclipse come out. I just got to wait that out for now
We'll back off up. It's gonna be able to grab on a Kori so Kori will get dealt with double kill for our bet
Is he's cleaning up both of the supports there?
Getting themselves some two nice kills, but again like like the last game though
It's just the supports that are dying.
It's the supports.
Alright, so the cores still continue to thrive.
Alright, six to five.
WS.
That's gonna be very quick timing on this one.
Overlord tube.
I like this creep too, this croaker.
We were talking about it last night,
because initially when this creep was added,
we were all talking about this river-born aura.
I want to see how much you actually use it.
Ten percent damage and all of your allies.
It's pretty crazy.
Only in the water, you know, hitting the things in the water that is.
WS, looking for these squishy supports.
Just continuing to farm 3P's jungle.
Aggressive posture.
Mira, trying to get a stun.
Not quite level 6 yet for the finger.
These supports both trying to, oh, four of them, trying to find those levels still at
this point.
How's Pumil get his?
Let's see if they can pair up now with the Void Spirit with the Sharpshooter.
Yeah, it's a lot of burst. Well,
you'll probably be able to give enough to kill most of the heroes on Aurora right now if they're warded.
I'm just wondering do they want to go for the Beast or do you want to go for the Windranger?
I want them to go for one of the two. The Windranger is definitely the easier to kill, a little bit squishier.
Yeah, the Beast is kind of the higher value one, but it's not so difficult.
Yeah, because they have Stampede, they can close the gap. Nightfall is playing a pretty defensive position. It's pretty deep.
they're gonna try for him are they gonna be able to kill and get out is the
question too right because if they do go that deep like nightfall is literally
behind the tower searching for tomato boy won't find him tomatoes already out
of this area nightfully doesn't want to waste thinking about not being here
anymore at least you know something is up they haven't shown for quite some time
that mid-word I believe also caught vision slightly of where they were step
I can't believe he's actually hitting these cricks here.
Because they've gotten misting from the mid lane for quite some time.
At least he doesn't. At least he breaks bricks from the movement, right? Doesn't get a core killed.
We'll be able to call that.
Tier 2 falls super early though.
They're coming over the defense down bottom.
SwordTamara was around.
Can he? Can he?
I don't think so.
SwordTamara was around.
Can he? Get out?
TP?
Okay, he's all right.
Dangerous.
14 minutes.
Can they test this wisdom route?
Looks like they should be able to carry this here.
He's gonna head over and start setting up.
Can you get in the ring in time?
He is! Goodbye, Flies.
He's in the ring, the finger comes out, they burst free-flying.
Wait, did he take it? Okay.
I'll grab it.
Oh, maybe not.
Mera's gonna see who gets it.
Mera takes it.
I'll take it.
It was Mera the last.
Anyway, it's probably gonna get it.
Yeah.
He was.
So, two of them.
Tier 2 tower to fall top.
They have access to outpost.
Now, two.
Overlord is 700 away.
They can need to take all the boxes on Aurora.
And further, I mean, falling further, further behind is actually Abed, which is a bit surprising.
I guess he is trying to make moves all the way around, but he's 3-0 and 3.
And he is the one falling behind quite significantly on the network.
As you say, we just haven't seen this hero dude too hot.
No.
Maybe the numbers aren't in a great spot right now.
It looks, I mean, I was waiting to see what build he goes for, right?
Because I've seen like five different builds as he makes their...
I'm playing Festal.
Festal, I've seen.
Revenant, I'm sorry, the shard prior time.
Yeah, so, I mean, he's gone kaius, was looking for magical burst, which with the hoodwink,
I guess makes sense, eventually with the shard too, they're going to have that extra big magic damage.
But he is truly falling far behind.
In case the game is going to accelerate incredibly fast, as soon as WS has that helm of Overlord,
it's roche time.
It's tormentors when it starts coming up too.
I can't wait to claim this tier 2 so quickly as well too, Top.
So access into enemy jungle is much easier.
Not able to get a connection on to Kaori.
He'll be okay.
Ok Koto, waiting in Wings.
Fly, he's got eyes on Fly. Just Fly, want to pop Global to save himself.
He will. And I used the Stampede so to the host used there to get him out.
It does allow them to turn though and get a big kill. They get Makoto.
Nice you're done. I'll bet.
See if they can get more. Step over to Wozmira, they do.
They'll be able to clean out the two of them so good reactions this time the global and stampede not only keeping them alive
But getting them two kills one of them the big one daddy Ashley to shield keeping fly alive right blocking that extra bit of damage for
Himself to VP collapsing quickly. It was expensive though. That was everything used from them to be able to get these two kills
But absolutely necessary at this point
He also found that pesky word that I believed it ruined their smoke from earlier, and then
I was able to find so.
Find Nightfall.
They are not the healthiest on HP with that trio either.
Potentially gonna be Aurora, potentially looking to catch them all here too, kind of reading
the movement. Saberlight is very tanky, but the others are incredibly fragile, and they
see Fly.
I think he's down for a split second there.
When the bushwhack and the curse, at least keep Mira off them. WS and Cori, they're still
closing in. Knight for the lead with the wrap round. Shackle at the ready. Hellscream gone.
And the least fly will manage to sweep the out in the corner. So he gets away.
Support that gets caught right for all that movement so overall for VP pretty big win at least for them to dodge that
Yeah, tomorrow's for tomorrow. He's catching back up. Yep
I would be careful though because he is on top of a ward if Kono is in the area
He doesn't want to take the risk
Recovery's being made though from VP in these last few moments
Roche is starting to get pinged out
They have to keep themselves aware of that one because it is gonna be a move that Aurora can't do at any moment
And Ultimates are starting to come back online, Global back up in 3 seconds, Stampede is at
the ready.
Watching them try to kill this Humblebolt Alarm is pathetic on.
As we expected, you know that these heroes just don't really do it, it takes 4, they
They will bring it down.
They're coming around the middle and they're coming in with a wrap round.
She's just down here to get our bed out of it.
Just in time as well.
WS was looking for the roar.
That is Nampid use.
Do they want to now go for the rush?
Probably.
Because they have the medallion as well too.
They can take the help post.
They can start setting up the area.
Decent damage after as well.
got the full me on there. Yeah. In effect you can just get medallion right. Offer free
on the Commissar in particular too when you have this help build to skill accelerate this
so much. So a free rush. They want to contest this. They're actually going to try to contest.
They have the global. Okay. They could look for the steal. They've got to do it soon.
The rush down. It's already gone. I've got the edge of the knife bolt and now they're
ready to look for the play. The Global Signers will come out, they'll get the
bushwagged down on towards Makoto, so they might not be able to stop the
roach from the ages, but they do get themselves a double kill for Tomato, and
again, managing to kill off Makoto. That's a big couple of deaths now. On the Storm
Spirit, Signers slowed down his game, and it's given the chance for Arbets to
actually start catching up to the farm of Makoto. I think he just like
headed himself to them there. He's trying to zip and dodge versus the Global, the
globals actually every single time
and we'll be trying twice a month against him of course looking for that
Lotus but he's falling behind himself now come looking similar vein as Abed
yeah that one was his choice kind of jumping in trying to get a little gap
between the two of them yeah now they're pretty much even the two mids and he
lost it right I believe I think he maybe even lost two there let's say again
it was a super aggressive zip onto fly he's trying to dodge these globals but
Oh yeah, just not able to.
Yeah, because he dodged the Glover, but he had the Curse on him, so when he came out of the Z, it freaked out the Curse.
Yeah.
Ah, that action.
We'll get picked, Picoto.
I'll be able to strike back.
They'll get the Surdom here, easy angle for the Knight, 4 to follow up with the Shackle.
I think you're right about that to call.
It was the last word that ended properly there.
Picoto, we'll be able to get himself a couple kills here, and it's directly into the Tormentor, so still natural progression from the side of Aurora.
Tomorrow recovering though, pretty massively. His farm is quite good now at this point.
Can he do it as a Lunar? I mean, how, like, what is the potential of the Lunar against this lineup?
Like, how difficult is it?
It's kind of difficult just because of the way that they can reset in and out of the fights, right?
The fact that it's a Windranger and a Storm, it's hard sometimes as a Lunar to stick on this target.
I think it's just like, yeah, go in and out of the fights, that's where Tamar is really going to struggle.
Anil just sort of like the single target stun him, focus right there.
He's going to have to rely on a lot of help from the team.
I mean, he's going to be able to itemize to save him.
He has, as long as he's near Saberlight, I think that's the biggest thing that's going to be the case in this game.
If Saberlight's able to crimson, pipe him, this Lunar can absolutely do it so at this point.
This is going to, I mean, it's going to reduce all of the damage from the Wind Rage.
Or is this going to be enough of a wisdom?
this time at least they'll be able to push Aurora out of the area so VP will get
I think what was there is that the first wisdom that they managed to get?
I believe it is yeah. So I think they actually have a pretty strong timing
if they're all grouped up together here with this Centaur because the damage
mitigation is going to be pretty massive. Auras versus no Auras even though the
helm of Overlord is going to be very annoying for the supports if they're
rallied around these Auras can actually kind of play versus it. I guess it's just a bit of a
shame for them right that they weren't able to do that before the Rose Shan.
Absolutely.
The fact that they're hitting this timing, but it's still two minutes of night before having the Aegis.
Absolutely, yeah. It feels just a bit faster, could perhaps be a completely different kind of style of game here,
but still 10-10, not too far behind.
Definitely seeing the power at least of their 5 men.
Still concerns for Abed's growth.
I'm gonna save the line, man.
He's a tanky boy.
They're pretty close, man.
He's got one charges.
just happy though would not be there still on court after 46 of course they'll
drop the launch and the global comes out stable I will get the auras off
isn't a little bit of a better chance to survive that little longer he's taken
he's survived or through it all the glimmer comes out the shackles there
they have got the detection so they'll kill him but it took an awful amount of
time and focus so that's the ages taken out of night for can they go for round
two on to in the red net will hit but looks like they won't be able to look
for the shackle not quite there it's very close to actually getting that tree
behind him oh no I'm not bad right I mean we are seeing just how long it does
take to kill this sense yeah he's a problem even though they tried to burn
Osmana had the 21 charges was able to pop it get everything off and it blocks
a significant amount as you saw there versus leg falling versus the beast
how much it did take to bring save the light down gave them that chance to be
able to bring down WS in turn immediately under cover the global if they
killed focus the Beastmaster take WS out then if they killed him before he pops
the auras this fight would be completely disastrous but just able to get it all
off getting the extra glimmers and everything as well too
Jethic's Nabilite, he's going to be pretty important for this game for his team.
All these Auras for Tamato to be able to potentially carry.
Tamato, BKB, level 18 soon on the horizon. He's yet to die somehow in this game on the Luna.
I think VP's got a- they potentially have a timing here, right?
BKB Luna with the Aura's you're playing versus a win ranger who did not go for BKB relatively early
Same thing for that storm spirit. So they're group up. It's gonna be strong. Definitely gonna be strong here. I
Imagine we do see Aurora go for triple BKB's next maybe Makoto's toss is out a little bit here
But wanting to have that
We'll get caught
Sour as well
VP striking back. Ready to swing over the walls to top as well.
Keep rallying around Saberlight. It's a good plan right now.
I don't think Tamato is very killable if he's next to Saberlight right now.
Wouldn't the BKB at the ready also?
Let's ping back here, maybe see if they can catch Koury whilst he's still around on their side of the map.
Tamato will be able to finish off the tower.
first BKB is about to be finished. I believe WS does have it finished. But yeah, Nightfall,
he went green, right? He went quite greedy with the item. The Mjolnir into the full pike.
Well, even when we saw Wind Ranger during the, what was it even called, the Whirlwind?
Was that what it was called, the facet? At one point, right? They were doing a Mjolnir
into the BKBs in a lot of the games just because that timing is very important to be able to
do so. So I would say VP, some, some windows here, to be able to start taking some control
of the map. Yeah, without a doubt the next roach shan is going to be very important for
them. If they can get that roach, get the Aegis. They could really start turning this
game around. They'll find him. He's a pinata as well, to level 13, so that's a pretty good
pick up they're able to get. They'll lose their courier. The Venom Wards does get the
There's a shard, there's a husky moan, have that.
Boomerang for the back damage and for his team.
Sableye, it's gonna have eyes on Nightfall.
Sableye?
Everyone.
Uh, Nightfall?
Not able to force himself down to the low ground, gets caught a little bit.
Has merit of help out there and even with the stampede,
because of the stuns, Sableye will not be able to chase.
That looked kinda cloudy.
Didn't make it over the cliffside there.
VP, starting to get a bit split up. Whenever they're split, this is the opportunities that Aurora can quickly go for these type of pick-offs with the line, with the Storm Spirit.
Save the line there, can still pretty much show himself where everyone's still in the waves.
Sierra just needs to be annoying, this is his job now. It is super annoying for these strength heroes versus line.
I'm gonna still hangin' around, I mean, are they gonna try?
I was gonna start the thing, they wanna try and dot him under a tier two.
At the tier two without your winranger would be insane.
But they look like they're thinking about it, smoking up.
Yeah, they're trying to come in from the angle, they wanna try and see if they can find anyone
else, other than Saberlock.
Well, they might just find them.
They might just find them split off here.
Vera?
Two guys on the two of them, they turn quickly with the curse.
We've come out with the pushback, looks down the two of them, Global's now there.
I bet.
They've got the catch on the wards, but he's able to get out with the two astral steps,
and now Tomato can turn up with the BKB, gets the double kill,
and they've got the stun connection onto Makoto, Tomato's going to be cleaning this one up.
The plays, VP coming together, nightfall.
Got the ATOS on to him.
Settler trying to close in still, not with enough mana to really knock him down, so Nightfall will survive, but...
I bet it does take out at the end of it all there, but a great hit again, Makoto.
Not having BKB himself, Fred, he's going for full greed on the Storm Spirit as well, getting punished.
The swing is happening. 3K, 4K has swinged on these last few moments.
Even when they were slightly split off there too, they couldn't kill the target fast enough.
Tomato's able to get over in time. Join the rest of them.
And yeah, he continues to be in a fantastic position this time round.
Did struggle in that first game as the lifestealer.
But sort of the opposite happened, right? He didn't have an easy lane this time.
Fantastic lane last time got ahead on the early farm and then proceeded to fall off this time round had a really tough start
Got bullied out of lane pretty early, but now this point five zero three
4k ahead of the carries, you know pretty much 4k ahead of the cause of that of Aurora four levels ahead, too
Yeah, he's crushing it on the saloon at the time. He's they're hanging a perfect and
And as I say that this next row shan if they get that rose get this ages they could really start to just
But I must have increased the lead.
Yeah, I think Aurora overall, I think they absolutely need this BKB on Nightfall to get involved.
And I mean, Mikoto, he's still gonna be bypassing and not looking to go for it next,
but doesn't feel like he's gonna need it pretty soon.
VP, started to feel very strong.
I know he's in it somewhere.
Lory, they're gonna find him.
Long jump for Mikoto just for the rune.
But that's essentially the butterfly now finished for Tamato, so he's gonna have this evasion timing that's a very good versus these Quarrels.
So I guess, okay, Mikoto, he's going witchblade perhaps first because of that, and then maybe we'll see what he transitions for, but...
True, but you just think overall this game's gonna be pretty tough for him to play if he doesn't eventually be taken.
You're dead if you can call it one stun. That's the one issue.
Even if you are relatively tanky with your HP pool, there's a lot of damage coming out in VP.
Speaking of all that damage, this rush, it just looks like it's free for them.
There's not going to be any sort of move from Aurora to try and stop this so VP
Must have may have been behind overall in the gold so far this game. They're very much now
Starting to pull their plans together. I prefer the way they vitaminize to in comparison to auroras
I do think this nightfall like stalling out his vkp for so long has hurt them a bit here
And the fact that they went for this wet double a glimmer at least on the silencers was having this double aura on
On Saberlight, absolutely seeing the strikes of it.
Saberlight's gonna have a heart pretty soon too.
Heart with Crimson, the amount that you block with that max health damage block, right?
He's gonna be blocking every instance of damage.
A good luck focus firing as a wind ranger, right?
Yep.
So even though they still have that 2k lead for Aurora,
absolutely feels like VP's the ones in the driver's team.
Sure.
I guess the question is how much do VP have to lean into this time?
That is the question, right?
Does it have to be go, go, go? If it does slow down again will we start to see sort of the favor shift back to Aurora?
Probably, yeah, I would say, right? If they're able to just sit back and hit on their tricorps, it does scale very, very hard, but Tamato, absolutely, in his elements at the moment.
Let's see how much VP can push it right now.
Right, because if WS gets AC, they still have to get the big MKBs on the windranger storm, gets Paras, there's absolutely going to be that scaling there in comparison.
Yeah, but VP, some good windows to you at this age, just 3 minutes and 40 seconds, looking to defend.
Just wondering if they were...
I was wondering if VP could maybe just like, I guess they didn't really have the best creep plays,
but I was wondering if they were going to be the ones just forcing them back, right?
Just get the push go, cause literally the best pusher, if you kill a building, the racks are dead.
Yeah, well it was a very heavy reaction that just that you asked to push me out that top lane pretty much what the entire team
Had it back to deal with that they did lose the creep wave
I think to kori right that he was cutting it as this Venom answer a bit here, but I kind of want to see VP
Go for all the yeah, they have an ages push right? Yeah, you could definitely try and poke the high ground see what happens
I absolutely think so as well
Creep waves are getting cut though
We're seeing top wave is getting handled bottom the Venom answers looking to go for some perhaps some cut as well
So mid wave is the one and they're looking to hunt
I want to see the buildings you can potentially force quite a lot here from the side of aurora with this ages on the moon
And if you do get a tier 3 the rax is gone, so I said like he's going for the jump
tomatoes here
Blink
Get the blink off
They know they're not gonna get that
They got to walk away. They can at least focus on the tower. Creeway is coming in. They got kori. They have catapult wave
It does die, but
Should be able to force reaction
Makoto, I got the grab. The global status is going to come out. Makoto, I have to remove it with the load. Just gets away.
But the push, look, I think they're going to go for high ground.
Stay down.
I'm in a position here for the jump.
I think there's the right call too, with this Aegis.
Who's going to stop this now?
Two minutes on the Aegis.
But there's no cliff. Wait, they used the cliff where? Tell you.
Oh my god, wait, what? That's so dangerous.
This, this brax is probably just, this is dead.
I mean someone's gonna have to do so. How do you get this sent to a lunar off your barracks?
You don't.
I mean they could just go get the bottom set as well.
Keep going.
You can go Crete Wave coming in on the mid.
This lunar is way too much to deal with with these Auras.
Yeah VP.
Very much understanding their strength right now. This is exactly what they needed to be
doing.
I'll just stick around. They've got nothing to be scared of.
What do they do?
They can't contest this.
The next fraction may just die. I think if they just persist on the auto
Like WS you got to look for a flank around here creeps have been caught at least
All right, but no creeps coming in
But they're kind of doing it through the back door protection of course with this Luna and
These are doing how far tomato is at least a range rack should go down here. Do the melee as well. Yep
How much they want to try and do it they will
It's very close it is going down
Someone has to take some of the glades.
Oh, we're not you, then oh my goodness, not you!
What? I mean, did...
I think he's gonna end the game.
I mean, end of the game, put back,
it looks like the team's kinda hard.
If they get a Crete wave coming, it's coming.
Cause that's Calhoy dead.
He'll buy back.
They're gonna go for the jump, they get the roar on towards Armed.
That's Armed taken out.
That's BKB from 9-4.
And they go for Tamar. Only 30 seconds left on his age.
He's still got the Shackle on to save the life,
But they do not want to focus a lot of attention onto the sense or
Tomato
Make him with a loose beam, but Elsgrun has the push back onto WS tomorrow's ready to move in with the eclipse
They'll come in with the shot. We should a hold back tomorrow for now global's gonna come out from fly they've managed to go
Makoto Makoto, he's out for a minute
No buyback they can keep going again here to the racks the creeps have come back in
WS is getting some split push going. He is trading. He's gonna at least be able to get the range racks
The tomato now, of course, the panic.
I think they just need to leave the base any time soon.
The saving grace that they do have to tier 2 is still on the top lane.
So Mega Creates won't be on the menu quite yet.
Could just potentially go to your forest though.
If they wanted to try it, they've definitely got that option.
He is that strong right now. Looks like they probably will reset.
Go to push and play for the safer, push out top so they don't get put pushed.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, I don't know where Aurora does stop this.
They're too tanky. The Luna is untouchable. The Santar is even more untouchable.
They have found their footing completely.
Yeah, they really have.
And Aurora...
Nothing to comment that I...
Can you get the BKV off the cat?
It's gonna try and run, of course. There's a lot of physical damage.
We'll be able to hold back the Luna, at least with the roar.
Allows him to live and get out of that.
Yeah VP showing off the timing very nicely and it wasn't the easiest road to get here right.
They did not have a smooth start to this game, but just showing some resilience with that line up really.
And once they did hit the point where they were ready to go, ready to group up, so far so good.
They haven't faltered since, they're taking a hell of a lot away from Aurora,
and Aurora don't seem to be able to slow them down at the moment.
Now this is table late at the moment, it's not like super complicated things either,
But Tamato not dying, playing very cleanly, and Sambalich is having these auras at a pretty ideal timing.
Let's see how Aurora tries to stop this.
Is that Blastin?
Yes, gonna die.
And they've got the glimmer on him.
And they're all gonna be able to get him out, those sharp shooters in from Hellscream, that's fairer out.
Tier 3 is gone, the final set of parrots, can they do anything about this?
Now get the shackle on to Tamar, and I will try to go over the focus via rules there as well, but he's tanky.
And either Crimson's out, the pipe's out as well, Glimmer as well.
Tamar is perfectly fine, and now VP, they can jump in for more kills.
They'll get Mirage to die back on the Lion.
They've done it.
They clear up the base.
Man, that's a Magus.
See if they can try one more fight here.
Aurora, but it's looking unlikely, and indeed it is.
Now tap out.
Gigi is called VP.
Very nice.
Yeah, very much a masterclass there in hitting the timing and just not taking the foot off the pedal
knowing exactly the steps to close this one up. They get that Roche and one second Roche from that point onwards.
Pretty much flawless execution as a team and Aurora just had zero answer with this lineup.
It completely collapsed. Like literally as fast as you could possibly see it.
They had timings, things were relatively even, the auras come online, Luna's big enough
And they just walk into pit, walk down the lanes,
and you can see it on Aurora a little bit there.
Things were looking pretty OK.
And then we just lose.
And that's why they didn't even die.
No, exactly.
They had Nightfall, having the free farm at the start.
Makoto was defeating Arbe in the matchup.
Arbe was behind as the Void Spray early on.
WS was having a completely free lane top, but it didn't matter.
The strategy and approach from VP was just absolutely rock
solid when they hit that timing.
And as you pointed out, I think a lot of it down to just Tomato
Keeping himself focused and just not getting caught out at all like the farming patterns of tomato pretty much perfect
This game closes it up seven zero eight. Well played that by VP. We're gonna be going to game three here
What's the one right now between VP and Aurora?
Hell yeah, that's uh
Indeed what we can be saying game two did not play out my panel. They were my panel said it would you they said
There's no chance for a world to lose this game and I'm gonna I'm gonna vouch for Aiden here
Oh, he specifically said yeah, everything we thought about game one was wrong and maybe just some way somehow
And then I asked the occasion and then he said no, they're not good
These are the games that beat you as a carry player into picking one of those where she kind of
Covers all the bases and rounds out your draft in a really nice way
And then you try pick it in a pub or you see people picking competitive matches and it just feels so underwhelming
Not in this game. This felt overwhelming to go like at a certain point. Tomorrow was just God mode like legit
You can just run to every tower hit the racks mirror walk up die to glaives. You got a free Midas of the lion
Yeah, legit Midas. I would just have to hit a building like it felt so clean for tomorrow
Like this is the dream carry game. I think yeah, it's all those games where you truly get everything from
being you know, right? Yeah, no, but I think like
Like, uh, I don't know, Kori, I didn't really think about it, but he's not on one of his
three heroes, so it's Destiny.
Oh, I think he thought about it.
So it's his fault then.
I'm not sure if it's his fault.
I think it's his team's fault, it's team's fault, because I think like, if you're, you've
had, this guy's on your team, you know, like, you know what he is, pick him one of his three
heroes, and if you don't, you know you're gonna lose.
It's like, why are you not doing it?
I was saying this in the green room to one of you gentlemen about how this team, their
supports have some of the average highest deaths per tournament, and this is even the
case in tournaments where they do really well, right?
Like, and you look at the cores and the cores have some of the highest average KDA.
So I'm not saying it's always a bad thing, but it is like the crackhead analogy that
you were talking about where these guys can't turn it off.
They're losing these supports. They just go in they saw that they're actually they're still aggressive
They're still trying to make the plays like they will get that crack no matter what
It was important to note that nightfall had zero deaths like it. That's so funny
That's I love this. How many deaths did Mira have? 10. He was 0-10. But to be fair, it was one per racks basically
Yeah, and in some cases two times per racks because he before they before VP went high ground
It was like
I mean, you know, I mean it sucks to be lying against Luna like that
Yeah, he does fuck
It's just not fun. You can run in you suck their mana, right?
Obviously, I wish they were like didn't blink in there
I don't think you need it to I'm just even though we know he died before the stone
It like kind of looks like on paper that it took two heroes to kill him or like something
I think it's really important about that was backdoor protection was on so the racks weren't like they weren't
I don't know sorry that was really funny
That's one of my favorite that's let me ask adness is there and I know I keep asking this
But it's just the type of series we're watching is there something emotional there where you're like guys
They're hitting our high ground we need to stop them
But you're not the guy online that's supposed to walk up and do that like in another game not against Luna
You can do that stunt, but not in this one
I don't know dude. I feel like
Yeah, probably the probably is like it shouldn't be but they're probably
That wasn't a lion or sorry a Luna. Yeah, he went in to stun regardless no games in this situation
There would have still been a central stop
Do we still well you can kind of cover for you?
I think because you're stunning the ground, right? So okay. Okay, hypothetically. There's no Luna waves
It's not like Blinks sentence thumbs you here. Yeah, that's a pretty decent spot for your team to take the fight, right?
But you're dead because of the Luna glaze. Yeah
Can we stop trading mirror like this I feel like we did a ruby thing with the muscle
Yeah, we did have the two-time tier winner. Let's put some respect on the same. All right
It's not a series
He's good at both of these two and to be honest like they're in a position where that's not really the reason they lost the game
No, it's not it's not actually making the difference. Yeah, it is it is funny
I agree, but I just want to make sure that everybody at home knows that like that's not the reason I think it's important to note that like I
Think what one of the best parts about Dota is?
Literally to two times TI winner one of the best players in the world can look like that in a given moment
Yeah, Dota and it's not like we don't want to be like dog piling and shitting on him
But I think it's a humbling thing to watch at the same time. You know what I mean?
Well, so what is the reason that they lost it?
It's hard to say, but I feel like most Dota games nowadays come down to like your minute 10 to 20
and where you manage to accomplish in that period of the game.
And I think in this game like, like for example in the previous game, I think D2 were doing a lot of good things.
And then they just messed it up in the end and suddenly like the game is back in favor for
Aurora. This time around it just seemed like
Arora weren't able to build that momentum. They weren't able to like build up to it
And the game was just even and at some point Luna comes online and they don't really have the tools to deal with it
Like we saw Windranger trying to hit down Luna with focus fire
But she's crimson guarded and the health bar literally didn't move
Yeah, it was just like this and I thought just like you do you do you and nothing happens
Yeah, I agree. I mean the reason
That we can look at the mirror stuff and it looks so funny is because Luna even got to that point in the first place where it's like
literally the dream carry game so how did that happen I mean in game one it was
I remember VP took a fight in Aurora's triangle and like Abed wasn't even there
and it's not a flame on Abed it's like some disconnect between your midlaner
is not there and the rest of you are doing something super aggressive in this
game they took a fight in front of VP's tier one tower bottom and I know
WS wasn't there yet yeah right so it's like I think in this mid game portion
It's really hard where you're like you're stronger than them
You know, you want to take fights and I think sometimes these two teams are just getting a little bit impatient
Where they have the strength, but they just don't have the full numbers at that given moment
And I think that's like an easy thing to get carried away with especially like
It also builds into like how comfortably you're on heroes like let's say like when Kari's on Phoenix
He knows how to find those fights. He knows how to find those plays and I assume he's a pretty vocal part of their team
When he's on Vendil for example, I don't think he maybe has the same vision in the same clear way
That makes sense and then you start forcing worse engagements
You start forcing worse flights because you know like I have my ulti up. I have my spells. I'm strong
I'm supposed to be doing something right now, but it just doesn't
Actually play out the way it's supposed to because you're not as like in tune with where that fight is
It's unusual for Aurora 2 I would say because when this team first started to shine
There was a lot of people connecting to fights at the perfect time, right?
They would TP in at the right time, nightfall would go through the portal, something like that.
But at that time, they were picking Kaori, his heroes, every single game.
They could get his heroes every single game. The meta worked for them, so maybe there's...
This is the issue for them.
I'm guessing based on just like watching their games that he's a bigger part of their success than they realize,
and him being on a hero that he's comfortable on matters a lot more than
anybody gives them credit for. I think it's actually more than that than the others.
Okay, well at the end of the day also, Virtus.pro played this one very well, and they were the team to shine in this game too.
We're gonna find out who's gonna shine in game number three.
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And you shine the light
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Just make sure that things are done
But you shut it out
But not now he's shutting it off
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But you shut it out
He's gonna get it, he's gonna get it
But he's gonna get it, he's gonna get it
Welcome back, you know you never left, you were thrilled, but watching Jenkins paint and
You're going to be on hold on watching them go to 2 because Virtus.pro and Aurora, they'll go head to head in the third and deciding game of the series.
The rest of that game is right around the corner, a half from Sammy, a few J.F. Jenkins, they're going to say a lot of smart things.
And for both teams, very important that they win the series, Aurora with one game win now.
They would be upper bracket guaranteed and Virtus.pro can avoid even potential elimination by just winning this game.
So let's see what's going to happen.
I have the rest of your tea
Can I have one more soup and make an hour? No
He doesn't want any more. You're greedy
That is one of the best things that you can choose in Loto right now as a support greedy
Yeah, yeah, everybody choose that. I mean not just in support. We see loads cores to it, too, right at least off-laners off-laners
Yeah, most minutes and some men carries can't afford to do that
You can have it back.
No, I don't want it back. You breathed in it.
No, I smelled it, which may be worse.
I'm sorry about that.
It's a nice green tea.
Ginger tea, actually.
Do you want some tea on the series?
Yeah.
I got some inside information.
Oh, give us.
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Keori will be playing one of his signature heroes.
How do you know?
I'm on Telegram with Nightfall.
We have a coffee group.
No, you don't.
He literally turned you down most recently.
I told you, that's private.
They were on Kairi!
They were literally on stream!
What do you mean private?
I mean, everyone that was watching that broadcast,
there's plenty of new people, lots of new Dota players.
Imagine the amount of people that were not at that broadcast
that now know that he got turned to...
Now they know I can't bear a thing.
Do they first pick Phoenix?
They absolutely do not.
They go with a teeny, teeny, tiny, tiny.
That's his guy. I mean,
I still believe that Tiny is an S tier carry,
especially early phase.
There's just so little that counters it
You I don't you don't really want to first-face pick a lifestealer against it and to me that that looks like the best answer
So I would imagine that's gonna be banned out here for the aurora side. What do you think about TA for VP?
I feel it would have everything it gives them rose team fight. I think that's a genius
It's a good against tiny you take on me. What doesn't matter you get everything you've tried to
So you can go with T5.
I think they can't reach strategy as well.
How did this turn it from me mocking you guys
for always pointing out the minus armor strategy
to you guys mocking me?
I was not on the panel.
So you did start doing it to mock us?
Oh yeah, for sure. That's me.
That's why I start doing most things.
That is my main motivator in life.
You have solved it.
You win.
The bosses don't...
They've been at themselves.
That's best play.
Don't worry, don't worry, they're still Warlock.
Well, Warlock is...
You can't against Tide, right?
They're still Gikiro?
That's not good against Tide, I'd say.
They're still Shadowed, even.
Is that a K or he's...
Yes, a K or he can Shadow.
Historically, yes.
Okay, well, you can buy Axe and break the Tide with that.
Are these drafts flipped or something?
Why would they ban their own hero?
I mean, I know they're not.
Mikoto's puck is down, but like what it's it is very good against tiny to be fair the percent damage
Yeah, the attack speed slows and they're just scared to pick it first. I guess
Or it's one of those classic cases where like you're really good at playing Phoenix and like so you're constantly thinking about it
Phoenix is all in your mind with how do we get Phoenix?
I forget Phoenix and then you're scared the enemy team is gonna pick it
So you don't get it
So you're like we have to ban it if you don't ban it they're gonna get it and then they're gonna own
But maybe VP would never have picked at the beginning. Let's fly it to be fair is the big he does play a lot
He's a big phoenix, okay?
His name is literally Fly.
Yeah, Phoenix Fly.
I don't know if you guys know him.
I think he's probably playing that more.
I don't know if he's...
Maybe he helped the people at home.
They have Phoenix Flies.
So he likes flying heroes that are flying?
Does he?
He does.
And his name is Fly.
Is that...
But was his name Fly before he was playing Phoenix?
No, it was...
What's the chicken and what's the egg?
You're checking.
It's a towel.
Okay, actual trivia.
Do you know what his original nickname was at home?
I do not.
Do not.
It's his three-letter word.
How sex good choice, but not Jenkins behave we're on broadcast his name was actually bought
Like BOT. Okay
That's right. Yeah. Wow. Was there bots his name was a fanatic bot was it cuz he was he a bottle?
He was not a bot. He was the opposite of a bot. Yeah, it was a carry player back there. They knew that one. Yeah, that's crazy
Yeah, that's awesome. He was laying with no two
No, no, no, it was a carry. It was mid at the time. Okay. Okay. Okay, there's supports were
a guy called Nova and then they had they like I don't know their team was weird I
think it was a guy called fresh bro they like mix it up fresh bro fresh pro fresh
bro and fresh bro it's cool the teams are banning Largo now when they want to
chamber because Largo is so undeniable in a sideline that it's really interesting
But I think a more interesting thing to talk about is why would they not pick tea?
What are like the reasons for not picking TA into tiny?
I would not want to have everything.
It's probably TA being just a terrible hero.
But what that doesn't that's beside the point.
Oh, okay. I just I'm not I'm not understanding the the meme levels of the draft. Yeah
No, there's no he's suggesting there's many levels. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay. Well monkey king classic Ember counter most likely gonna go mid
Yeah
Monkey I'm just trying to think monkey King tiny is like it's one of those like you pick two heroes and I feel like that
Did you're not completing like in a lot of drafts?
You're trying to get everything
No joke you're trying to like cover a lot of bases in trying to like especially early on is it?
Yeah, exactly exactly and you allow yourself to come in with these like hard counters down the line
And I feel like even in this case like this monkey King now has to play his two horrendous support
Oh, this is rough. Yeah, this is rough because it was picked so early and
Essentially what you could have done here is you could have picked two support heroes and then picked your monkey king on EG
Exact same matchup
But the difference would have been that one of your supports is gonna have a worse matchup rather than your mid laner
That is supposed to be picked as a hard counter to what you're going up against any flex potential there or no
I mean if they play at four it changes things, but I feel like at that point like
You picked it to counter ember right? That's like the clear idea here and I feel like it's
Mistake to pick it that early. I think they just saw Ember they pick monkey and I think that's a good idea
But the correct way to do it would have been to delay it to the 18 year
I was wondering if they ever were I was gonna go for something like Oracle there like I just think that
The way to enable monkey King tiny here against like I'm imagining
Spirit vessel from Ember like all the dots from Venom answer the magic damage from techies
I thought that was a really good oracle pick. I know you're an Oracle specialist
Would you agree with that or do you think that it's good against techies to actually because when he does his blast off
You have enough time to react with fates edict. Yeah, so you can essentially prevent all of techies damage
You can prevent pretty much all of them. All the taser. Yeah
I used to think historically titles play good at save against saves because what you do is you like blink behind the back
Like the guy you want to go on your ravage and it covers enough space to where Oracle can't
Save the guy without getting hit by ravage like for whatever reason your timing side of the off
It's you can't get to save off but I do I do read like for rune fights all this stuff
It would have been great or or however had a pretty rough oracle showing early on in this moment
That's maybe they were like that's like keeping them a little bit on the fence about it
But I do think it would have made a lot of sense for sure
I had for me. I'm like, I don't always know the sport matches the best
But I was like this if I was monkey gig I would want an oracle
I was like yeah a bad and like any sort of dispelled into banning it
But I mean they obviously prioritized the Dombreaker higher
I'm always concerned with Donbreaker if your team does not have initiation, which we've seen that happen a few times
But they have a lot of that they have in a cage Donbreaker ulti should be pretty impactful this day this game
I have also seen that the so Donbreakers ulti stun got nerfed by point two seconds at every level
In like the C patch I think it was and I have seen it on multiple occasions where she's on her third swipe of the like she
Came down from her ulti the person stuns. She's on her third swipe of star breaker and then like a puck facious
Because that .2 seconds, so I think against Ember it's gonna matter a lot, but at the same time you also do have a lot of stuff.
Not in line tiny. Yeah, so I'm not sure if it's gonna matter as much as that.
But it might come into play. Yeah, it might if you see it.
I mean if one of those things, the patches where you read it, you're like, oh they changed .2 seconds, what does that matter?
Yeah, but it's actually stuff like that in interactions like that, they get unlocked usually because of these things.
Yeah, it makes like X percentage of matchups harder for you.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm looking at this game and for seeing so much action around the mid lane because I
still can't get past this problem of Monkey King against Ember, obviously Ember gets destroyed,
but these two supports are so good against Monkey they can make his life completely miserable.
So Aurora, they need to bring their heroes mid to compensate for this as well.
So this should be an all out brawl in the middle lane.
I like that.
Is there like any support?
Okay, I already Warlocked.
I told you guys! You didn't believe me, but I trusted from the very start.
This was going to be a great Warlock game.
Well, we didn't disagree about the Warlocked great game thing.
We just said Warlocked started the year.
No, I disagree.
I think I disagreed quite clearly.
I don't know.
I'm confused, I'm unhappy, I don't understand what's going on.
So then you're gonna go for a warlock.
Oh, okay, I'll just say it like it is.
I feel like if you're gonna pick warlock anyway, why not just pick it where you pick the monkey
king?
It makes no sense to me to delay your warlock pick this late.
There's no way that we're gonna pick Tide Ember Monkey King.
It's not gonna happen.
You're definitely gonna get your monkey king on 18.
I don't like how they prioritized their heroes on this draft, I think they completely messed it up, and I think they ended up with a bunch of heroes that are not good, so they're probably going to win this game.
That's why I was waiting for it.
I completely agree on all fronts, but I also, like we said, we have not had a proper read on these two teams this series, so...
I have no idea what to...
Ah, I like that, that's good, but it's still going to be a brawlman game.
This series has been so confusing, because Game 1 VP also had objectively the better draft, and they got crushed.
So I've looked at their draft. I think like oh man, they have like so many counter matchups
I'm gonna lose. I've got my question. Whatever team is winning at 15 minutes. We'll lose this game
Yeah, because that's been the case so far in both games. So is there a team that is clearly having the better lanes?
That depends on how the mid lane goes
I think it really like this is one of those games or like yeah, it's it's honest lanes
It's like a Harold game every staying on their side and just playing the game then I think
Aurora war. Yes, but with movements. It's hard to say
Yeah, that's not happening.
They gotta move.
But that's fun for a viewer perspective.
Oh yeah.
Action packs?
It's gonna be a brawl.
Yeah, it's gonna be a brawl.
Everybody loves a brawl.
I know, AudiPix1, Fogged, Love, a brawl.
We all love one, and we're gonna watch one in game three.
But first, we're gonna watch the punch and fun mess.
We have a type of gang spruge, come and show it to us, we'll get the sanction up and away!
We'll find out who's able to come out on top today, to be a VP on Aurora.
But while Albany made the draft, we obviously have to panel and have the main line.
He was not super satisfied with the wages, but we're all kind of laying things out this game,
getting the wallop of the last pick, the order kind of being a bit of a surprise, but what do you sort of make?
Yeah, I absolutely can agree, because the problem is now these are two of the worst support heroes in the game to play against,
especially Techies, you literally can't play with Jingu, because the fact that he can throw Taser on his allies now also
means he doesn't even have to run in with himself with this Taser, you just throw it onto the Emperor spirit,
Monkey King kicks him and usually you'll be able to just dominate him, but in mid game it's a complete different scenario.
So for me, I think Aurora is just looking to dump on lanes, right?
I think this is a situation where they're just looking to really crush the lanes across the board because the other thing is the
Dawnbreaker pick with the lion they're gonna be versus a Venom answer and Venom as a hero
Very strong in lane unless you all in and kill him if you all in and have the opportunity to kill him
That's where it just is amazing versus Venom answer and they have Dawnbreaker probably one of the best all-in heroes
So that's what I'm looking at at least from Aurora is just come out of these lanes
Completely crushing and swinging
But yeah, I like VP's draft also again this time. Sure. I will say I do like what they got
Hey
Which there's a bit of a different style to the style that they did win game two with though
Yes, when you consider what he's gone with this time round. It's more like the first the characters
Yeah, it's that sort of style. Yeah, which I honestly I kind of liked as well
I thought they actually had a pretty good opportunity in that game
It's just they didn't really pressure nightfall the hemorrhage. They ton of kills that they probably shouldn't so
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure what we're gonna end up getting fully out of this one
What's the what's the core matchups like for the Cascus game?
Get me pretty okay, right? Especially as the game progresses tiny is a little
Right because a bit both both ways that it goes early game the tiny can just take everything below you up
But besides that's pretty decent
Just waves all the test click right now quite sure what
Reason is for them not being in wasn't it wasn't the thing that they were saying cuz that's not something about a techies
skin it techie skin it cannot be used because of a bug but I don't it's just
nightfall reconnecting so it's not here I don't think wait yes so what does that
mean we're gonna need a remake no I don't think so
does he have it on oh you're right that was probably shared during the draft
process yeah he doesn't have that set on it was just being addressed during the
drop so but we're all good we're all good even do there's some cosmetics that
cause an issue right now I'm not gonna quit so we're all good honestly it's okay
for everybody to reconnect in the game anyway because Monkey King is in the game, so everyone
says to reconnect anyway because the Monkey King thing that sometimes happens so looks
like we should be underway shortly.
But yeah, let's see what we do get because I do feel like VP's approach is very similar
to that first one which ended up not working out but they were placed playing versus Night
Maul on his PL which went absolutely rampant but they also were playing versus Kayori on
his Phoenix and Kayori is playing one of those heroes that he does just win on sometimes
so it has to be a crazy game.
I wonder what we do get.
last game we did have first blipping voided there's not really the craziest magic damage
on the side of aurora very physical dependent draft right tiny as tiny as kind of hybrid
but tiny monkey and dawn quite physical dependence of taser looks like it could be pretty good
Both teams having a pretty decent level 1 first blood chance here.
Does K already get the 5 man fatal bonds?
Is that the question?
That's because that's usually what ends up just deciding one of these fights.
Both teams looking to just play for the safe ruins at the moment here, Aurora.
Are they considering going a little more aggro?
Looks like they just want to try and set up the three bounties.
Should be able to get the three, but how's he in position with Fly?
That was off the mark, but...
The WS might go down here because...
Yeah, we'll be able to pull this way back to safety.
Something they'll be able to start up and get the three bounties to start this one off?
All the reason I said that is because if he immediately goes for blast off there,
there there's no stun from the impale if they actually catch him in between the
pull-up of the hammer they could have potentially but as it hits
slightly there I mean mirror has to be careful with some of these stuns and
mirror is very obsessed with mangoes I guess today again he's queuing up triple
mango for the lane just really wanted to get that spam going here
it's just that they do have pretty good kill potential right between these two
so that's probably why he probably wants to skill hacks just to use you with
That's that's right if you're gonna be skilling hacks incredibly man intense and that actually can let you set up for kill
So yeah, that's probably the case
Why good shows the damage but they were able to harass WS very nicely at first WS now even easy trouble
He is gonna slowly but surely get taken out first blood for tomato
I'm gonna be able to turn and do something about mirror as well another echo
Well, it's got the stick charges, so we'll be okay in fact, fly.
He is actually gotta be a bit careful.
Gets the Gale off, but does die.
But if this sets up the tomato to get a second kill,
they will absolutely take that.
He's gonna have to stand up again in a few seconds, Mira.
So likely be able to make tomato work for this in tomato nose.
He doesn't want to waste any more time on this.
And on the meanwhile, WS comes right back to the lane.
Mid, I don't think it's something we need to look at too much here, right?
Because Mikoto should just kind of dominate our bed
until we see some rotations come out.
So maybe we'll wait until we see those.
Cause it's gonna be sad to look at more of it in the mid lane.
Yes, they should walk pretty much unplayable for the first few levels.
That's the ember.
Yeah, pretty much.
Oooh, they hit the gal on the echo.
Not quite enough damage to fully commit here to fear of the enemy.
At top lane, I think this lane should just be a farm lane, right?
Unless Kaori really steps out of position, or Housegain steps super far out of position,
should just be a tiny versatile farmland.
Yeah, this is...
Yeah, indeed. Yeah, I'll hold him, I think. Yeah, they'll do all of the most susceptible to die.
Yeah, more than anything.
Good flame positioning for bottom, Nora will do it.
Pull that one, I'll bet.
See what he can do with the level 2 flame guard, because, I mean, this is one thing you can try to do for a first race.
Sure.
try to have that magic damage add up and he's starting his ground pretty good
here off that really is
I just said you have to watch out for that
that can start to add up especially against the early levels of the monkey king but
once there's sort of the jingu levels of the balusters there it's he's always
gonna be out of stay on top of the trades and the nice thing about this
happened flamethrower you just go to the jungle he starts to catch up a little bit here
drag some waves into the jungle camps
Help him! Do the pretty good job at least here of...
Just be annoying.
Getting the attaizer just so I'm making the tiny miss of Connemara here.
He's got the spring charges this time around, he's not surviving.
Very strong lane. They have not been able to find that opportunity to just all in a target, so right now...
On mid, Model 3, Model 4.
Now, that's burning Makoto, but holding the boundless of the ready.
We'll get the slight dodge out, but there's the Cree wave still to give him a decent heal up Makoto.
Yeah, I actually said to Model 3 for me, but he only has nine last hits.
He's just getting kills that is making him get elevated because of it.
but he's missing glass tits because he's going for the kills, alright, so...
Can they all hit him this time? They're looking for Tamato!
It's because he's winged with a starbreaker, but he's got the one charges.
And we're okay.
I mean, oh no, the Domprek has the same net worth as Tamato.
There's definitely a lane where you can see...
either one of them just get burst down from the dawn of the line, like we were mentioning, so...
Smashup actually feels pretty good for WS now.
Even though they did die here a couple times already.
Yeah, has to be cautious how he commits for the kills.
Summata.
Especially when that wave is there, I mean, he literally has gotten one CS in two minutes.
That is not great.
Housegream trying to make a move toward the mid lane, as we said, that's how they're probably
going to look to fix the issue of the mid.
He's with that techies, but he does have a work vision, up on that fight, and again they
get the cat.
They're going to hit the full combo.
I mean, that's going to be Summata dead.
And yeah, this is the power of the mangoes, so I'm understanding why on the line at least
Mira is doing this because hex is just so expensive so
good stuff here and as we said Aurora they wanted to set up for lane domination
and right now we're definitely seeing that tide is still farming well but
three lanes are very successful for them
and we'll lose Makoto though in the mid there's that rotation
Hellscream at the cross and is able to ensure that
there's a bit of space freed up for our bad taking Makoto out
which angle I actually wasn't looking which angle he did that from the techies
because the ward is there
Mekota was prepared for it.
That's mean the up top, Saberlight left on his own.
Less susceptible to Fioraura to dive and get the kill.
Bottom, another kill here for the two, the mirror and WS.
They'll take out Fly this time.
As we said, look at the lane dominate, and they have absolutely safe.
The dawn plus light is very strong, Vercento.
Same thing versus the cas, Cas does not like playing versus too many changes.
No, if they catch him with the full combo, they'll kill him.
Pretty much all the time on these early levels.
Now it's night time, right? So the dawn has lost a lot of the power
But a pretty solid hit and mid lane 24-3 on the ember to 32 10
How's the network actually reflected that he's only 400 behind me? I mean, it kind of hurts off it
But more rotation stuff. We're gonna come
They're not gonna let it play that 1v1
This time around Makoto is gonna be ready for it has the support himself to back him up
setting things up here for that powering
maybe three in the mid lane to be expected in this game
I'll bet he has it
I'll bet it's six sooner he's a little on mana though
powering's gonna be top
I guess he was holding mana
yeah I guess we wouldn't have had mana to jump to it anyway
so I didn't have a set up, Hal's Scream's just gonna have to take it to deny it away from the coda
It's like change. Oh instead. I see what you're saying. I mean, whatever house move at least takes and he can reset
Sure bottle refill so nonetheless. It doesn't even really matter that much, but I
Yeah, I've been would probably like that
I mean have it if you could have the silver in the bottom up sort of allows him to stick around and play the lane aggressively and continue to farm there
For sure without the necessary necessity of having the two supports in behind him
Yeah, but look at that. They probably can just they want to have him here anyway, right?
Cuz they're pressuring the tower they have catapult here so two supports got a linger play around hotbed having the level six before the monkey king
Pretty big deal near
Got a little bit of setup there with the stun into the hacks.
Got them filled up with the Jingu. Maybe look for the deny mirror? No, okay.
And the catapult's still alive. Significant damage onto this tower here.
Nicoto looking for a grab onto somebody here.
Can he finish the fly though?
It's got a side change. I don't think he can.
Cast down top of him.
He could have gone for a deny there, couldn't he fogged? Yeah, I mean we could have seen
He's got big hits with a Jingo!
I didn't go for denies either, they just kind of let them die.
Sure, I guess.
They denies her.
I don't know, denies in the lane, it's like you deny the gold, but the experience is still given, right?
So it's like...
If you're thinking you can get a trade kill out of it, of course you want to go for the denies,
but if you're going to miss getting a trade kill because you go for a deny play, right?
Whatever.
I always go for the deny. I'm addicted to denying allies.
Oh yeah, that exclamation marks above an ally's head.
I'm hitting them whether they were going to die or not.
It's too tempting
Don't do that
I'm addicted to the nine when they're actually gonna
To get lead off of these lanes Aurora the setup that they did want right like we're mentioning
This is what they want to have coming through for them looking pretty decent overall
But I'll bet having it
I'll pick up that of the ring. How about yeah having a pretty good entrance into this game because of the movements
Yeah, continue considering this Monkey King situation.
Yep.
We'll tell them to stay up with this album.
And I will stay.
I might just be able to pick up a kill here with.
Now Scream getting the jump in over to was Kaori.
Disarm.
This is the problem about click blasting.
So the Darnian's coming in.
Actually, they're going to get punished for that one.
It looks like it was just a bit of a bait overall there
from Kaori.
They fall for it.
The Darno's coming up right at the right time there.
This Darno was there for Mikoto, but not quite enough of it.
It was the Darno right on top of all of them.
Decent amount of damage back onto this tower here with the blightstone. Or a blight.
In the early days, but it was the last game, we did see VP sort of just have to rally around,
save the lights, timing right to kind of get things going. It could be the same this time
round, right? Both the ember and the cares are going to have a bit of a slower start
the game so you'll be looking at war stable like but I will say that our bed I was trying to remember
what I was trying to talk about I was like wait there's nothing else to say I'll bet this game
he does have a really good vessel game right he's playing versus literally three strength course and
a healing right support so this could be a very good timing if he's able to get it to send these
in this game also fine choreo get the shadow at hill of and the fatal bombs does die but can the
three of them get out mirror comes in with a stun on a war stable like fly stand up there they're
They're bringing pretty much the whole team here, BP.
Ravage down, on towards Makoto,
but he got the Wukos command out in time.
Fly will get caught by the Hex.
That's done from the bottom.
So it just ends up being the one for one there.
Both teams pretty much turning up their entirety for that.
Aurora responding pretty nicely.
They know how strong they are coming out of these lanes.
Can look to make these moves and react.
WS and Solt is gonna be back up both soon too,
so they can look to react again
with that Dawnbreaker ult if any move does happen.
They're being fast.
Look at how they're moving around.
See how the power in it is going to go tall.
Oops, I hit the regen there, let's just grab it.
I have a blame, right?
The two supports on the side of Aurora
essentially just have to follow Mikoto around.
Because the pressure isn't going to be there on nightfall
and WS can always just ult in.
So some ease of movements for them as well too.
Up to a 3K lead now in these first 10 minutes.
Although Abed started to get some recovery, does die.
Loses a lot of momentum.
Only 40 last hits for him.
Now scream.
Getting caught.
Found him.
Listen to the ASP.
I did get the taser off.
I'll drop a blood grenade down onto him, but he won't be enough to kill him off.
Hellscream's fine.
I'll bet.
I'm trying to strike back.
They have a ward behind the tower here, so Aurora does see any rotations that's coming in to help I'll bet.
So just continue to keep the three heroes in the mid lane.
While Nightfall continues to get this freeform, the Echo Savor, it's already finished up.
Very early timing for him compared to the cast was going to be quite a lot slower on that mage player timing.
And overall Nightfall can get involved a lot easier in this game.
Which just with an Echo Saber, the cast showing up with the mage player in this game, it's a lot of physical damage and it's bypassing it.
It's now getting taken out.
They're just going to finish it here.
Now VP not able to set up to try and interrupt that, so that's going to be the tower gone.
He kills WS.
He got me back up.
He's gonna go for the TP out, and he should be fine.
Not enough to kill him off, and now the counterplay comes in.
Mirrored Makoto collects straight away onto Kimono.
Build up the Jingu.
The boundless end of the avalanche comes out from the two of them.
Now the tree throwing the way of flight.
Looking to be in a whole world of pain as well.
A stun comes in again, sets up for Makoto to pick up the double.
This snowball is gonna be pretty dangerous with Makoto's timing.
Deso is gonna be done super early and there are some fragile heroes though and the Tidehunter of course tanky
But all the other four absolutely can get brought down super fast
And it's not only just him that's doing the physical right this Deso
It's gonna enable Tiny and Dawnbreaker a lot when he gets at this early
VP have to slow things down somehow here or just be able to have rallies
You don't be rallied around perfectly if they do use the ravage
They need to have the techies to have the bombs to clear out a target quickly
Rora absolutely hitting some fantastic timings here in this game.
Nicoto?
Tomorrow's having a sneak away.
I'm not prepared for the setup.
Protecting the catch and they do manage to get the catch though and turn on to Hellscream.
Super ready for that.
Not an easy game for the techies even though he has Hazer which is fantastic this game.
Getting in with his blast off is very complicated versus Lion.
Yeah, you're getting stunned by something by the Lion.
and the Tiny or even the Monkey King if he sees fit.
Hey, just insane burst damage as we're seeing from Aurora.
Tholam is online.
Might look to just throw that one down pretty soon on Kaori.
And what's the plan from VP to try and slow things down?
Do you want to see them sort of rally around Saber like go for an aggressive move with the
Ravage or can they just not afford to do so right now?
They're just not ready for it.
That's a good question to be honest with you, right?
Because you can't rely on rallying around Arbet too much now at this point because he's
fragile behind tomatoes recovering so you probably just have to play with
ravage timing that's about it when you look to defend towers probably the best
case for you on the side of VP but dangerous for sure it's early in there
it is 13 minute desolate so I'm a code so on I I don't know I feel like VP is
there's so much trouble this game this shadow blade for the tiny's gonna come
out very fast speaking of fragile heroes right a deso tree with a monkey
keep jumping around and they're on to save a light and he's the one so far that was kind of having
the best game on VP is tanky unless I could be tank enough to walk this off you see the build
he's going for to a very different build usually than on the titers because he's playing versus
so much physical he's going for halberd which is not something you really see ever on titan
that's quite interesting
I tried to steal the honey
No, I just thought it's a bit too spooky now.
Tom has been bought for VP to group up and be ready to react.
Finger at the ready.
Saberlight, be careful.
Kind of on the HP. They've got the burst.
I can't... please snap double down to HP.
Now drop the Golem. Keep the pressure on onto the tier one.
He did not give respect.
He got on it, and they needed to right.
At the moment, our bed and tomato were struggling.
Saberlight was getting the space for the free farm up top.
They can't have him making those mistakes.
Like sure he like they didn't want to shine the entire time, but they did initially make that move for him
So it's making around with such low HP on the lane gets punished
Aurora snowballing here
Deso stacks already starting to be acquired as we said the tiny shadow blade very soon on the horizon
I'm scared heroes are just gonna get deleted on the map either tiny shadow blade on one side or a monkey on the tree on another
Yeah, the amount of damage that can come out at the speed that they can lay out Aurora
Not easy for VP to deal with.
Yeah, that's very squishy.
Arbent does have the vessel finished up.
They've got him with the opening stun.
Into the hex.
Boundless as well.
Solo got in to follow things up.
Not a chance for Arbent.
This is looking rough.
Yeah, they're making it look easy, Aurora.
Getting a very early advantage here.
15 minutes in.
7-8k lead.
The dominant lane play is really working for them here.
In WS, top of the net worth with this dawn breaker,
He takes the talent that I always want to see these off-leaders take to the
Sylvester Hammer giving movement speed. Everyone runs so fast in this hammer.
Yeah, which is actually really very important, especially when you've got these two other melee
calls who want to stay on top of the target, right? Exactly. Be able to chase them down.
Because the way it works kind of in a way, right? So the 30 is a 72 movement speed disparity
between the U.S. and the person in the blast-off, so off the mark, there's no other side of me.
He knows you can go straight for the T.P. out, W.S. Oh, that is devastating.
I'll kill that they really need on the side of VP can't even get to the last
one.
I think all of the mark.
Makoto is watching from the trees.
How's this amplified damage rune?
I mean, ah, but he needs to get killed to get a Vessel Charge.
He really does because they need any extra damage they can at this point, falling further
and further behind.
Life already has a Shadowblade.
Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh.
WS.
Yep.
Phase.
Echo Saver.
Brazier all the HP and he buys charge 2300 HP on this dawn breaker versus limited damage
So you're saying on the side of VP already
The HP pool just on the dawn of the tiny might be too much for VP to deal with at this point in the game
Looking at Corey
And he's got back up on the way I bet and they didn't get the change connection on to Corey
The Kodos have built up the Jengar, so he sees Nightfall, and will actually be enough to save him.
Oh, it's the finger!
Mirror able to reach in and finish off the jump, we'll die for it!
But it's Tomado gone and now Mikado's turned up!
Lay down the Wukong's command.
We'll be all back out of there for now, but that's Tomado gone.
Can you hurry?
We'll be able to distance himself.
Does Mikado jump to his end Wukong? He cancels his Wukong.
I may be stepped slightly after jumping to it, but that's a little weird.
I thought his Wukong would continue.
I'm smoking up, VP.
Have to find something.
The Vestal Charge is on our bed.
Can they find the big pick up?
I mean, Nightfall is the one they have to find, but it's...
Sure they have the Vestal Charge, but there will still be the presence at least of the
Dawnbreaker.
Yeah, you mean?
They must be able to join with the Solar Guardian up.
You may have to just smoke to the Dawnbreaker.
You've got to get to the Dawnbreaker.
That's the best of the case, yeah.
I think if you go for the time, it'll be disastrous, so...
I have to find WS, but again, he is not that easy of a kill.
They might catch him, though. They're heading pretty much in the right direction.
If they use canes and blast off, then they don't kill him, he'll TP out.
They have to kill him during the stun timing.
I'm just gonna like he's just a step ahead as well, WS.
And when it's that deep?
I don't know. This could be very dangerous, they won't hit. I don't think they're gonna be able to go that deep.
He's chilling. I'll take the protection of the shot, ready with the star breaker, and he's willing the way to having the BKB.
Aurora is just completely cruising in this game.
No difficulties whatsoever. BKB soon finished up for Mikoto as well, and the Silver Edge for Nightfall, it's a common.
So even Saberlight not going to be too safe to show himself on these waves too soon.
Radiant's bottom tower is under attack.
They're trying to get Abed involved, trying to get these movements, but Aurora are maneuvering
and faring nicely around them in this game.
And yeah, this case, a couple of these games we've seen, this hero struggles, especially
if it doesn't come out of the lanes in a great position, just has difficulty kind of recovering
and getting that farm, since you know, you build this mage-layer, deso build, take some
time you usually want to be able to fight around this mage flare early on but
kind of surprised he went for it this game even too right when he's playing
versus three physical cores and still can go in for the mage player build anyway
of course it's like the build of the cast but I'm just thinking what if there
could have been a better option perhaps there's what he's up against
This is uncertain.
Silver edge is done. Aurora.
They can look for a pressure. They can look for a light.
They can look for anything for anyone now, even the tide.
Does seem like they have a good read at least, VP, at the moment where Ehe is.
Deity of Rune. Vera will just kill it.
as the Blake also finished on the line so easier forms of catching our bed as
well
the league continues to grow up to 9k now same for that experience getting way
more out of the map Don's is able to hit creeps freely all during this
downtime and the BKB is they're gonna have double BKB timing very soon on two
of the course yeah BKB is a very distant dream for the two key cores on VP
You know, tomato in our bed, and not be having any sort of BKB anytime soon.
Yeah, it truly breaks.
Honestly, the damage, even though VP's damage is quite limited,
the BKBs break even the limited damage that they do have, right?
All the Emperor damage, the Tide, the Techies, is gonna be negated entirely because of that.
And there it is, the first one is done.
How does VP withstand this?
They found him.
They look at the burst room and get the Ravage up to protect himself.
But that means no Ravage for the fight.
Has to use it though because if he gets hit by a knife while we'll just die.
Now with no Ravage up Aurora, what's the choice that they want to do, right?
You could potentially look to threaten an objective, but they don't really hit them
the best.
I guess the Deso helps.
really on the right side right now the Roche of course being on top that's
no finish at least for tomorrow some progression going his way but not for
Robin pretty much no progression for this poor emmer spirit
see what they can get here now setting up on top of our bed shows himself might
He's being trouble. Nightfall.
Does our best sense something's up?
He doesn't. There's going to be the full combo.
We'll be able to dodge the Solar Guardian landing,
but Bill awkward there with the remnants.
He's got a couple more to jump away.
Tries for the TP out.
Meanwhile though, Makoto finds himself a chance to take down a Hellscreen.
The Makoto?
Trying to go for him.
We'll actually get the kill and return.
Can he get out the Nightfall and WS to wing across?
Kill off Fly, but...
It's a lot of... gets the kill and gets out.
How many mines was that?
Cause I saw Hellscream prepping this area for some time to force a fight here.
They must have jumped into it with the Monkey King.
Let's take a look.
It's not showing it.
Oh there we go, Mikoto, shed it in the jump.
Oh, there you go.
Oh Mikoto!
That was amazing cause the fight recaps that.
Thank you very much.
1100 damage.
So he probably jumped into the quad mine combo that was in the tree line there.
Unlucky for Makoto, but very fortunate for Mr. Nelson, of course
It's like Makoto heard me. Thank you very much my friend
So a little bit of something here, Tomata if you can keep making these sort of moves
Yep, helping fuel the the BKB cost which
It's getting there. Two decimal stacks acquired there too. Yeah gains any type of gain is good in this point in this game
I mean Tomata, you know, it definitely clutched it up in game two on the Luna
This one's gonna be a little bit harder, but definitely not out of the realms of pulse of possibility here for
Tomato on the cast
Thank you
What the hell is going on? I thought that was you first. I was looking at my screw down at the pizza. Yeah, they call me on guard
We'll be able to finish off this car mentor throws in Kory house. We will find himself a kill
Playing his own little minigame
Big mirror went through the gate perhaps and found some a world of hurt
Good ol' techies things. Even if everybody else is having a terrible time, you're always
having fun.
Yeah, just control this area. I guess this just got the way that VP's gonna play, right?
We're gonna deny you access to this side of your map. If you do come over here, without
Without BKBs up you're probably gonna die
I mean what do you do about this if you're you just sort of right off this area that might be like, okay?
Well, you don't necessarily need to go there. Why do they right?
Roche is gonna shift bottom in 30 seconds. So if VP wants to force Roche right now
I mean how safe you can they take rush?
I mean they should be able to finish it in time. Yeah, so okay. That's actually pretty cool prep there from Hellscape. Yeah
Pretty heads up move from them
Smite's coming in.
Do they make it in time? The Deso plus the gush.
Myest armor...
Going down a bit too quickly.
Don't get away with it!
Mikado's jumping into the box again.
Oh my goodness, careful!
Now, that's because you're gonna jump back out of the wall soon.
They're gonna catch him with the jump.
Forced out of the BKB, he'll scan his ground and go to the blue con's command.
But the space was there to get the roach and they get the Aegis on Tamada.
WS pulling himself in aggressively.
Using a cord out by the bash has to put the BKB to retreat.
Alright, the mines have been cleared. They have swept the area.
Not a cheap way to sweep it, though, at double BKBs and almost a life being hemorrhaged, and they're able to get a roast because of that.
I know, Tamato, but the age is in hand now.
I'm gonna, I gotta give Hellspeed a good amount of credit on whoever was calling about, like, setting up this area, right?
Great little coverage from this techies to prepare for this area, get themselves some extra kills, and force BKBs in a defensive posture.
Radiant, off-scanning.
Pretty huge stuff, all things considered, right?
still in a massive deficit versus this triple BKB timing, but it's giving timing for Tamato to at least perhaps get his.
He's gonna find Mira, hit this for the scan earlier, and he's got him!
Another Deso.
Seven minute nightfall.
Won't be able to go, hopefully, aggressive ones to save, but like, backup is there for him.
He beat me, they are holding on.
They are getting some decent timings, right?
They really are.
With this axe gushed as well too, with the Deso, it's a lot of physical damage for themselves now with the two.
He is still the one really suffering in the game though, right?
Do they have enough?
They do.
That's so acquired.
That is always going to be the issue here, is that they are kind of playing with only
two cores in this game.
And I don't know when it's going to be that Abed actually has any fun in this one, playing
versus the insane amount of stuns that there are on a tiny monkey dawn.
Should be alright. Can you get him?
Toss! Toss! We can! Nevermind, nightfall.
There is the gap. Toss is there just in time.
You heard the TP almost finished as well.
Pretty much as close to the guest there.
Hellscream.
Look at the jump away.
Is Mira gonna go up the-
Oh no, we got her.
Oh my goodness, yeah, walks into the mines.
At least clears them out from Makoto to jump in.
10 beer will be ok. I mean, how's he still staying in the area? He wants to keep putting
lines up here. Oh, they saw him. K.O.R.Y. Drop the rock! Oh, I have it so funny. Not worth
it though, of course. Wants to save it for a real fight. Gonna sweep the area.
I've got his eyes on tomato. Can't do on his own now though, at this point.
always needs at least a plus one and even then you know tomorrow with the
sages it's not really gonna be there the top prior to target for the next
couple of minutes he's making recoveries he really is he had a slow start this
game tomorrow it's him that we can send the last camera on his Luna really came
back into it but we're sort of seeing that again here and he has things that
are gonna buff him up pretty nicely right I see solo crest being built
applied double four steps to disengage from the stuns I think that's really
important this game these four steps could be very clutched right if the
stuns comes out and they disengage, able to reset around the tide, could allow the
Kess to start cleaning up the staff, especially with this Aegis. They can get a fight off of
this Aegis here.
Nice fall.
A fine Corry.
He needs me having a burst him under this tier 2 tower.
Second fish. Not too many have been acquired this game.
It's able to, like, well get that one.
It's able to continue to be in a very good spot in terms of farm.
Blink, have it's Halvard, he's got the axe, got plate meltdown 2 tanking up, never can
fully right off the damage from an axe gush plus a cast, it could get the angle.
Yeah, he's fully run out of AoE physical but it's coming out from nose.
It's pretty ridiculous.
Yep, and he's hit the 20 talent, the really strong one on the cast as well, so that damage
per second versus these tanky heroes as well.
The game has very much stabilized at this sort of 8k lead for quite a bit of time now.
VP holding the position very, very well despite Aurora.
I mean, there's such an explosive start, you know, a start wave.
Kodo was getting this one.
13-minute decilator, but things have been slowed down massively.
They had a lot of tribute to, I mean, housemen, right?
Just the mines delaying and stalling and getting this type of positioning to people
and show them to get that Roche.
Nightfall is still looking for Sam Hill's here,
but they do see him.
And drop the ult on him.
The Cass is here.
He's going to force out the BKB for Nightfall.
He's going to go for the BKB TP.
And the interrupt's there with a stun coming in from tomato.
He'll have to turn and try and stand his ground.
Our bet's going to jump to a safe distance
that they take down Nightfall.
They're doing it.
Nightfall is just playing very alone.
Going for a solo play here, potentially.
just gets punished immediately. Aurora is looking for another play in this area.
I'm in House Cream standing up. They get the axe and the burst onto
Zemato. It's not nearly enough though. They try and see if they can follow up with the
solar guard in. That will do it. WS making sure that they are able to strike as that
Aegis comes to an end. Can they get more? They look towards House Cream. House Cream
able to fly our stuff away. Saberlase coming with the ravage onto the three of them on
the back lines. Arbid looking to sweep across. Dakota has to put the BKB.
Arbid will try and keep his distance from now from the Monkey King. Fly.
Kiting out WS, sliding away with the four staff.
Mikoto is able to continue to stay on top of our bed, get the kill done, and Aurora will clean up Fly.
So this time round, back to business for Aurora.
They might have lost nightfall before the start of that play, but it's striking pretty much exactly right when the Aegis was expiring on Tomato and WS.
You know, he's been fighting the farm.
Top Network right now on the dawn breaker, turns up and cleans up with the boys.
Actual perfect timing.
As the Aegis is getting good claimed, they jump in and they do bring the numbers in perfectly.
So knife fall just kind of feel his life a little bit there, but his team said don't worry bro
We got you we've got the other two with very hard scaling course as well
We'll be able to find the cleanup and a nice play for Mikoto to getting the cleanup on all that too
We gotta be able to see this one again
Was that worse?
And very much sort of that this would be the struggle still with epes on it, right?
Short tomatoes in a great spot, but if they get that opens down on a lot of if they take the cares out of the fight
The damage is gone.
He is literally all their damage at this point.
He asks Teki's will provide some extra if there's no BKB's, but yeah.
90% of it feels like it's gonna be coming from this KZ.
And it's slowed down his timing and his agonist too. He pretty much had it done right before that moment.
Nightfall though with a pretty uh, yeah. Doesn't wanna do that again, right?
You know the KZ's in the area? You can't just BKB TP out, my friend.
Makoto...
Keeping the lookout here with Mirabai's side.
He goes for the Silver Edge as well, so just really wanted to not let this Tidehunter play free like he needs.
Also great to see the cats, people split up around the map to Shadowbleed it, with the way that the game state was kind of building up.
He can set up for the Donald, and it is up again.
Can they get the chainstone on Tamato? They are lucky.
They know that Makoto's here.
He finds him.
And it's not gonna be able to stop him from getting the BKB and the O off though.
They'll be able to get him out of the side so Tomatoes manages to get away.
We're mentioning the four steps can be important to stop the chain stun.
Because that's the only way they do actually bring Tomato down. He gets to hold the BKB.
Tied now, level 20. More minus armor. Minus 10.
So I mean a lot of these heroes are gonna be put pretty negative.
If I see WS, he's very close to having the A.C., Aurora might wait for that, but it feels
like VP do have the timing to look for some pretty big kills here.
No BKB on the Monkey King, no Solar Guardian.
WS?
He's away, but Tamada's gonna be in there with the chase closing the gap on towards him.
WS turns with Starbreaker.
He still has his BKB, he holds on to it as well too, they're trying to force it, couldn't
Quite.
Nightfall.
Looking for a play here, solo-guarding on cooldown 10.
Doesn't want to try this nightfall.
It's RISTI.
Knocked by himself, get the plus points.
Bring the three cores if they're gonna go for him.
Scan's been hit so whilst they know that the rest of VP are trying to connect to Tomato.
They'll back away. Saberlight.
Sheva's now finished.
Incredible, Sheva's game.
Right, versus all three of those cores, all physical.
They do have sort of the setup though to go for Roshan right again.
They do Pete. Housegroom can do the same thing right? Set up the area.
They got...
Holy stuff.
I'll wait for tomorrow. Oh yeah, tomorrow's heading over to help out.
Doesn't mean the TSC is going to get taken likely by Aurora on the bottom lane, but
I want to see VP probably find this trade.
A second Rosh for a bottom T2, well worth it.
Yeah, and they...
We're able to up right up towards the end of that age is where of course Aurora did punish it.
And for at least the rest of maintaining the Aegis on...
...Tomato, they got a lot done on the map. They stabilized the game.
Yeah, that rush is dying a little bit too fast. It looks like for them to be able to contest...
...their chance to get to the wing, because of these mines.
It's gone.
Not already.
ACS finished up for WS. They might not have to fight anyway.
It's gonna try for the jump on to Fly.
So that has quite managed to burst him though. Fly finally gets taken out though by the Boundless Strike...
...coming in from Makoto at the side of things.
WS has committed him for this one.
Tomorrow, he's gonna have a lot of physical damage to punch back at the dorm breakers. WS is gonna have to start retreating nightfall
They're gonna re-enter the fight gets him a two-man avalanche. He's called save the light burst through the tide
Now let's try for our bit of it's gonna try and rely on the safety of the mind set down by hell scream
But hell scream I've been blown up by the bowless to get the drag on towards our bed
They'll take out the four of them
Finish off the tide before he gets anything off very good sort of re-entrance to their prom
The tiny knight for jumping in a couple of times being able to find these big avalanches to keep the fight in their favor
And honestly the fact that WS is so massive in this game
He's a lot stoning four heroes by himself. Yeah, his team is just watching now
Tomatoes pretty much hit him for like 10 seconds or so and it is only getting him down to half HP
At this point no tomato realizes this is not the fight for him to commit and has to go for the TP out
And that point just falls apart for the rest of them
WS absolutely the MVP for me right now in this game. He is so damn tanky
Just forced so much reaction which gives information which lets the tiny jump get the backline finish them all off
So he said tomato does have the ages, but had to quickly quickly run away in that fight
Crush him on the door level 23 after that fight
He is so far I'm gonna say yeah easy
He's got the second highest yes in the game right now in the 390 only about 40 years
So behind that knife was tiny it's back getting a lot of farm WS
In fact, he's matching a tiny right who's just because it's going on his side. I have a power of solar guardian, right?
Ruff on there for VP. They were able to slow down Aurora for a little bit in this big game
But things starting to look quite severe again. Mikoto has the nullifier
He's in on the hell scream no more taser for you my friend
Use of the BKV to full commit and get the kill if you can get out
will be able to jump out with a balance, but Arme wants to chase.
Gonna go for Makoto, but the son of God, he had a Wukosk, come on, stay down at Tamato,
he committed it for that, so that's the H, he's immediately gone.
Flambo, combo.
Arme's dead, can Tamato get out the second time, and try and drag himself to safety by
huge amounts of damage coming out from WS the Knife, will he get the O, pretty much
use him back up to fall, but Knife will have WS in on top of him, nobody able to get him
out of there, that's Tamato dead the two times in the fight.
The two bruisers are just far too strong for him to deal with, to translate.
If once WS, but WS will just happily turn and fight back here, maybe not-
OH MY GOD!
Cops here with a big starbreak run of the two of them!
WS!
Bringing them loads well with the fatal bombs!
Throwing them down as well! WS is gonna be able to survive!
Corey's livin' as well!
I mean, he'll finally die, but the damage has been done!
Sable, I try to scramble away from Corey's column,
he'll get out with a blinkin' time,
but Nightfall might just find him around the trees!
HONK!
What?
One in time, okay? Sable, I get to live.
Holy shit, dude, WS though, my god, that damage coming in Kaori, I think comes in a little afterwards with the fatal bonds,
but goodness almost clears off two heroes immediately.
And one was a core.
That was an Ember Spirit, by the way, they're almost just got deleted.
Yeah, they'll take the top spot now in Farm Air WS, 10-1 and 11.
I mean, Abed is unbelievably poor. I think this might be the poorest I've ever seen Abed.
Yeah, let's get a replay of this one.
Not this point.
The dousk before the fatal pod that they got shot, holy moly, he is monstrously farmed.
Recording, well a lot of chance they're sort of sitting, channeling up quite the upheaval.
He did?
Back in action. Sabalized dead again, 70% for flying, they do have buybacks available.
K.O.R.I continuing with the allegations, you know, if he's Warlock or Phoenix, looks damn good.
Anything else? Leave something to be perhaps desired.
What a Warlock performance from him too.
WS, level 25 as we saw had been hit, Abyssal also finished up, truly abused this game.
Just a very difficult one for T'amato, did show some hope in the mid game but as we're
saying with how much control they have on Aurora, he gets caught in one stun, the threat
of the cares very easily eliminates it.
Yeah, stuns, silences, etc. Definitely an issue for this hero.
And they're gonna get the opening again, the hex is there.
You gotta protect him. Have to keep Tomato safe.
Oh man, tries to jump in. It's gonna get nullified, the Abyssman comes down on Torsim as well.
They get the passion on the WS, at least gives the chance for Abba to pop the BKB.
Now they look to turn on Torsim to dawnbreaker, but they don't have enough to threaten him.
WS is gonna be able to TP out, he has the Firligardian ready to return to the action, if necessary.
There is the stone on the wall's tomato. A little too deep though for Makoto to follow for now.
He's gonna focus the barret.
They know that the solo guardian's ready.
There he comes! Straight away!
Tamato's gonna try and get out of the radius if anybody can't! The star breaker's there as well!
WS has been above Hellscream and Fly! The stuns are out onto tomato!
Oh my god! Just explosive damage! They die so fast!
And these heroes are so tanky! 9000 health between the dawn and the tiny.
They can't really touch them at this point.
I could stick around in the base.
These fours down, these buybacks there. It's gonna be the buyback from Tamano, but the supports are both dead.
The ravage will come in up onto the two of them. Commit four from Armageddon, kill off Elise, pair up a Tamano, get crossed right away by the tosses, and die back on him.
And with that, the game, the series is over. TG is called Aurora, taking game three here.
This one, the late approach, right? Dominating the lades. They were, I mean, quite far ahead the majority of this one around this monkey king.
Around this dawn breaker, mostly to be honest, WS absolutely the MVP played super well this game.
Yeah, for VP, it just thinks all parts so fast and Abed literally didn't get to play Dota.
I think this was the lowest, net worth, lowest kind of impact I've ever seen in a game.
The flow start expected right when you're against the Monkey King, but they did try and do their best,
bringing in the support presence around the mid to try and get Abed's game going,
but just never was enough to really sort of save him and allowing to get back into the action safely.
Overall, we saw as well with some of the escapes. Aurora for the most part,
unless Tomato was around getting his bashes, they could kind of just TP or run away from the fights.
You know, a lot of the pressure of finding a good fight was, it was a ravage, right?
Because they just didn't have Arbett ready to set things up with the chains,
especially because he was having to go for this max flamethrower build.
True.
They just had nothing to make plays with, whereas on the side of Aurora,
pretty much all of them had a way to start off the team fights.
Way to start off fights, way to hunt, and you can see what the hunting did.
The obit ended with like 190 last hits, which is something you never really see this little
big game either.
Yeah, a reformat for VP Aurora, coming in very impressive to slam down this series and
get the win with this game.
Three, two to one here for Aurora.
Two to one and therefore Aurora makes it to the upper bracket and our chances for tiebreakers
in group A are getting lower, still pounding because game religion and weapons are still
playing against each other and that is gonna depend on that but this game in
particular of all the games we've witnessed Aiden I feel like this was
just a little bit more convincing because there wasn't some big swap in
the middle where one team kind of lost everything. I was really really impressed
with Mikoto I know Fognone said WS as their MVP for me I feel like the
execution from Mikoto was just honestly amazing he has a counter matchup but
then he has like a really rough matchup on the enemy supports and he's still
managed to like extract everything out of the monkey game in this game and I feel
like it was it was really really cool I love the way they were team fighting in
this game on Aurora 2. This showed me signs of a team that can win tournaments.
Like I feel like I could see that in this game and yeah I genuinely did not like
the way they set up their draft or anything like that and I still stand by
that but I think that is also part of being a tournament winning team right.
It's when you you can make up for potential issues that you have in your
drafts through gameplay and I think they showed that here and that was really really cool yeah I
agree uh what I found easy to forget is how strong monkey king can be as a hero that's like
transitioning the laning phase into a snowball early game yeah because there were a couple of
rough moments where like the supports would go mid and he would struggle but then the moment he
showed up the side lanes it was pure devastation for VP you know I'm looking back and seeing like
at the Monkey King mid-era, and it looked really, really good.
And like you said, it's not easy to execute
against these supports.
I also want to say that I think this Kess hero is kind of
getting figured out.
I think that the way that you deal with this hero is
stun burst, right?
He has pretty limited.
Like, if he's not hitting you, the hero is very squishy.
But like, if he's got Mage Slayer on you and all these,
like, silences and bashes and all that kind of stuff.
And I just think Aurora had a really good answer to it
before the Monkey King came out, or before the Kess came out,
excuse me.
And I think this, right now, it seems like a lot of the
issue for teams that I've been watching in drafts like yeah the setup we talked
about it I agree with all your concerns there Aiden but I feel like the team
when they have to last pick carry and there just doesn't feel like there's a
good option left I feel like the carry pulls it's okay but I do feel like
there's maybe 10 or so heroes that stand above the rest and when you get last
pick carry and I've seen now I think this like the third kez picked into a
bunch of stuns and burst and taunters will go get a really tough time this game
and Aurora like showed it like in lane they punished him Mira and WS like kill
a couple times full to zero. We saw team fights him just blowing up before he even pressed his
vkb. They did a great job of like stunning the from the chain stunning from monkey king on the
trees into the dawnbreaker ulti into the tiny. It just happened a lot and I just want to say
that was my concern about kez as a hero and then Aurora really really executed well. I mean I just
think in general when kez doesn't get to play from ahead and connect to moves that's when I see him
and struggling games like I think if this ember had a game and their draft got to play out the way
they wanted to and they didn't like ultra hard countered ember I think the kills could have worked
like I think like the I can see the vision the problem is just this monkey king kind of for me
disrupted the entire flow they never got to play their draft their draft never got to be
what it was meant to be yeah and that's easy to do in the lane but like you said it's hard
that's the hardest part about it because I think like up until the point where he gets pkb he gets
Gailed like once in a bad position. He's that he gets techies blown up. He's that he gets plays in the taser like
There's a lot of literally like screw him over and the fact that we didn't see that come into play is like a huge sign of how well he
Managed to like make his moves and do these things because it's not easy
And I promise you a lot of people at home if you go try this like it's hard to pull off on keeping any game
Yeah, a lot of props to Aurora. That was a clean game
Now good clean boy good team boy. I'm not good at these transitions
I know. Well, you got some somewhere.
Hello! My favorite guy. What's up, Nightfall?
It's not over.
Hello, hello, guys.
Can you hear me, though?
Yes, I hear you great. I got a lot of questions for you.
I love talking to you about mechanics,
and I wanted to ask you about the Keri meta
and the ancients being removed.
And I'm wondering how much of that is influencing,
Like where people farm and what are the carry picks right now?
Is that a big reason why you're playing like windrunner and stuff every game?
think it didn't change where you farm everyone just farming their
Arias and Kery's just sit there and you just don't have the luxury of having any pensions anymore and yet
I would say it changed the Kery picks and it more became like semi
semi carry meta. Is that why we're seeing a lot of stuff like I know you like the
doon carry for example? I mean doon might say is stronger post three than
carry but I can play it because I'm just doon expert. What about Necro? How do you
feel about the Necro carry? I see Witz is playing that a lot and I feel like it's
kind of popular in pro level pubs right now. Yeah I mean I played Necro I
I think the hero is quite decent and just need to pick it in the right spot and it will be a look strong.
Just need some tower damage.
Okay, cool. I'd love to see a nightfall carry Necro.
I wanted to ask about the Monkey King pick.
You guys picked that, I think it was like second or third pick.
You could have picked it on 18 and it would be like less countered.
We were questioning the Venom and the Techies.
Like is there a reason you didn't pick it on 18 there?
I think it's just how draft order goes in Dota, when you can just see enemy mid laner and
pass free, you just kind of pick your mid because you will get also kind of a very good
18 off laner pick, so I think it's not really a problem for monkey when he wins lane to
play against some Tetris or Veno.
Okay, cool, thanks for that.
Aiden, you got a question for Night God?
Yeah, what's up, my fellow?
Jenkins keeps telling me about like getting coffee with you, and I feel like I've known
you for years and we never like to have coffee. What's up man?
No, I am okay but he just like trolling you.
He's foley.
I just live in same area but I, as I said in the interviews before, I kind of order coffee,
not really going anywhere.
Okay, so it's not like a personal problem. You just don't have coffee with either of us.
Yeah, you also don't live in Serbia so there's like no chance that he's lying as well.
But if I come to visit, will you have coffee with me, but not drinkings?
Ah, if you ask, I'll be probably, yeah.
Okay, nice.
What if it's both?
Nice.
What if it's just a slander and this bullshit?
My favorite guy on the screen, you're asking him about this.
Okay, I got another question for you, and I got, of course, did my research as a big
fan of you.
Je nomme rejdenia, I completely butchered that.
Happy birthday!
Yesterday was your birthday.
What did you do for your birthday?
Yeah, thank you. I mean, not much. I went to some place, but it was like to eat to some restaurant, but there was kind of some dress code and I couldn't get in, so it was kind of lost.
And also we played like three hour games yesterday. It was like pretty epic. Some epic stuff happening in every game against witchy. And like there are some throne exchanges.
just like we don't push it like like 1k throne remaining HP and we all die and
they also went for our throne so it was kind of funny day but nothing special I
say maybe a cake well that's a very you answer to go somewhere and not get in
because of the dress code you just played don't all day we appreciate you
very much thank you for the interview we're kind of run a late here so we'll
I'll let you go and hopefully we see you here again.
Yes, thanks for having me.
Right.
Yeah, I can't believe he says yes all the time.
He's such a cutie pie, dude.
He's what?
He's a cutie pie.
He's a cutie pie, I mean, yeah.
He's a cutie pie in the upper bracket as well.
We can take a look at the group stage results
for group A again.
Oh, there's still games going on.
In the meantime, we're also going to check in
with some of the new buttons we have.
Oh.
So wait, he actually never went to coffee with you?
No, I think I did a lot of these ones running around the camera, huh?
Yeah, I was impressed with it.
I didn't realize how many of these...
We did a lot of running away.
No, we never, I never went to get coffee with Night God.
I will say though, I'll put this on the public record.
I did go get coffee with no one.
It was an ironic bit at first, but...
He's a genuinely very amazing thoughtful awesome guy and now I'm proud of calling a friend
And it's just funny to do a bit and then it turns into actual friendship
I never thought that would happen once in my life. So I hope that happens in life fall
No, I'm sure you'll have coffee do eventually
I've tried for a long time. I'm so sorry chickens. Okay. It's okay. I really do like him
I mean, he's a what you said. He's a genuinely genuinely very fun person. He's a really fun guy to talk to
I think he just doesn't leave the house, which is what makes him such a good Dota player.
Have you ever thought of inviting yourself to his house?
I think that's when he gets a little...
Yeah.
Then again.
I can't say it.
I think the main problem is if Jenkins does it, it's like, I would be scared.
Like, if Jenkins was pulled up to my apartment, I would be worried.
If he shows up on the news.
Completely on the news.
Yeah, I'll say that.
Especially if I told him like, you know, ten times.
I will announce this though, because there is one more game, and the announcement is
You guys are going to a break and we'll be right back with a bit movers in my galaxy
What are you doing? This is the way I come home
By lights, big city, sunshine's my town
I'm ready, I've got you
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And when you're paid in the sun, it turns to me
I, uh, I need to know
What it feels like to be someone
I, I, I, I don't know what it is to be this way
Cause somebody's on the move now
And I, I, I don't know
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I, I, I don't know what it is to be this way
We love you, I made it, I've got the dream
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I need to know where we're going, this is the way
Say you look, say you look
You know I need you now
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Why do you tell me this is the world?
I, I, I need to know
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I'll be right back
Cause I'm ready to go
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I got the devil's blood running through my veins
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the nation, but in one.
Recover the devil's blood, run through my veins.
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Hello, I've been meaning to save you, though.
You too, buddy.
Dream League Season 29 is brought to you by DHL and Chex.
You listen to me here, Fish.
I will not take this slander of the idea that Nick McGalacy can't make it to the offer
bracket from this group stage position.
I'm- I'm sorry. I'm getting- I'm getting baited by the fish.
Supposed to go the other way around.
And hopefully they're not right.
And it's up to Nick McAllister to prove them wrong.
But first, the Parchamp Pandas!
Let's talk about the upcoming series because Nigma vs Bedboom, we need to talk about what
Nigma do in their mid lane so I did a little bit of a deep dive into that draft so let me
Let me highlight some stuff for you, because Mr. GH on his position 5, you know, he really
likes this hero, which I'm a huge fan of.
Plus 5 feedings, this hero is good.
We want to see more of it, but if you're a bad boon playing against him, this is one
thing you should be paying attention to, and secondary, it's what they cook up in the
mid lane.
Mr. Noob here, he plays heroes that other people don't really play.
This is a mid-liken against a puck matchup, that was quite good, but also mid-largo.
Not something you see very often, they played it here into the ember, very good in the lane,
No one can ever die, you can take off the chains, you can even take off the fling guard later.
And overall, you keep healing everyone against this low and slow damage.
But the other thing I looked at, because for Nigma it's more the drafting, for Bed Boom
it's more the gameplay.
So we can look at some of their stuff that they do, and if people pay attention this
can maybe even gain you a little bit of MMR in your pubs, because this is the 1 plus 1
concept.
Most of you guys should be familiar with 1 plus 1, so what we have going on here, this
This is very important because if you can move forward and delay as opposed to moving backwards, you should.
But this depends on who can be with you.
So it's very important that my boy save that he is right here.
Because we need to pay attention to what he does.
He is immediately here to telekinesis the tiny.
He will also block the hoodwing ulterior from the right.
He now steals avalanche to delay this entire play.
Without this happening, you can just imagine that cats has to walk backwards, farm the triangle.
the triangle, instead they actually get to progress the map, get some kills, and get
more farm.
Now a secondary thing that they do very well, and I mean this is not too complicated, Admin
is 6, especially if you're winning mid, you want your supports to go mid.
You see both your supports here, they have an arcane rune on their snapfire as well,
and what I want to show is how Dota really is like the type of game where one play leads
into another.
So they got this fixed mid rune, they killed the pango, he's respawning, so after this
he's gonna go mid, and the timer is close to the wisdom rune, so there's a lot of small
things that will happen on the next couple of seconds. So if you take like take a look at his
camera he looks bottom he's like okay that's ours takes a look at the other one he's like holy
shit this is nice double wisdom shrine where do we go he immediately teepies bottom with his arcane
rune and now the attention is on Nero because he knows my bro is coming let's get in there and let
me pause for a small one because he does a pretty cool play here as well he's one creep from level
six he's like okay these johnnies are low HP let's turn around let's get them killed boom he gets the
Grabber he gets him going we got the snap all flying in and here you really have like this is one play going into the other
Remember when they killed pango mid earlier? Well brother doesn't have a TP. How could he be here?
So it's just it's free real estate for all of them
They start diving they start diving get the double wisdom shrine in the meantime while GPK is down bottom
They go to the mid lane get easy XP and also you make the first move mid
So it means the side is unless a siege creep everything is nice and easy so bedboom. I think they've got some good moves
So, Nigma, I need them to step it up to have a chance here.
The power of the Domino's Spectre, Nigma Galaxy though,
they have a wealth of experience in their corner
and we got to talk to the man behind it with GH.
Well, for the last couple of months, we had our ups and downs
but I believe we're trying to finally find our groove.
We're doing good in group stages.
After that, we're not doing so well
but we're super excited to play against the rest in the world.
Well for this newest version of the roster I feel really good. I'm excited to play against the best teams right now.
For sure we had our shaky ups and downs, but right now I feel we're on the good step. We have a good grasp of the meta, so I'm excited to play against them.
Well, actually I am the most experienced guy on the team. However, I believe that I'm not doing an incredible job at relaying this experience to my teammates.
I think I should improve in this aspect.
I have three crazy boys that are a bit too YOLO, but I really like them, I enjoy that.
I love the fans, they're the reason we do this, so we completely honest, they're consistent
support, they never let us feel like we're alone.
I hope to make you guys proud again and again.
And the fans should be encouraged because despite the fact that Nigma Galaxy are not maybe doing exceptional in this group stage,
Effie, there is still a possibility that they can not only survive the group stage,
but make it to the upper bracket because this group is so tight right now.
Yeah, it really is. I mean, this series is going to be really important.
And with Nigma, they're a team that you never know what you're going to get out of them.
Like, a lot of the games that they lose, they lose after securing a lead or a net worth advantage.
This team is aggressive and it does run at you, but historically they've had an issue with closing.
And I think some of the heroes that they've been picking recently, like the Lycan, like the Luna,
these are heroes that can help them close games earlier.
That has been consistently the Achilles' heel of Nigma Galaxy.
Lukas, have you ever felt confident watching a Nigma lead?
No, not at all.
Every single time you watch this team play, it's a rollercoaster.
It's just, you feel like, ah, I'm a big fan, but they always kind of disappoint, you know.
It's been like that for a really long time, and I want to see how they're going to be
scoring against BitBoom team, because BitBoom team right now, if you ask me what their
score was, I would say like 5-1, considering how well they're playing, but it's only 3-3.
And this is a team that yesterday, they showed what they're really made of, especially GPK
In that first game, that like 70 minute game that they were playing against the extreme, it was nuts.
The high ground hold, one of the best ones in the recent times.
And a lot of persistence from GPK as well to repeatedly pick a snapfire,
because in the beginning of the day he had also picked it up against Tundra and it wasn't as successful,
but he was not deterred, picked it up against extreme and found success with it.
Yeah, he really destroyed it with something. I think snapfire is still like a bit...
I don't want to say underutilized, because people play around with it more,
but I think the overall level of the hero, like the power level,
I don't know if it's fully discovered yet.
Like, even for myself, I'm watching it, and I'm still like,
one game it pops off, then the next thing's like,
ah, he kind of fell off, it looks good from support,
so it's still a hero I want to kind of see more of.
I don't know if you guys have, like, if you feel like you have a better read on it.
I think there are some heroes in this patch that
obviously feel stronger than anything else,
But I do feel that we're in a state where most things are decently strong.
And I think Sapphire is decently strong.
I don't think she's exceptional, but if you pick her in the right situations,
and it's a player who's good at her, she's going to look good.
In the games that we've seen Sapphire, they needed that ranged turret
to kill the panorail in the late game, right?
So you'd get that data list, you'd get that specialist's array.
And it's unorthodox, because usually you get that kind of hero from the carry role.
So if you've got a melee carry, I think that's when you start looking towards the Snapfire versus the Pango.
Yeah, this is the team that is not really afraid of Pango.
It's something that seems like they figured it out.
And I thought they might bang out Snapfire on 9 immediately after,
because yesterday when he was playing Snapfire into Pango, he gave him the treatment.
NTS was like level 4, he was level 6 on Snapfire.
It's that extra 35% damage, because you basically want to be standing on top of the hero.
So be dealing that extra damage and with your cookie, with your scatter blast, it just deals so much damage.
It's a matchup that they might need to respect this.
There's also a flexibility to it because this is one of the nice lamas, the most played, I would say, best heroes.
So they have that flex opportunity and I also think that, Boomb team, they want to be playing this Beastmaster from the offlane.
Straight up, this is Mero's one of the best heroes and just give them that oomph.
It gives them that extra bit of a potential and map control.
And I think so too, especially because it surprised me a little bit that they picked Beast into Pango, because
Pango, first of all, he's one of the best heroes against Beast in straight-up, like, mid-to-mid laning.
So it kind of already means that your Beast, most likely, should be going to the offlane,
which of course, it's not that easy from second pick, like, you have only one ban, which they did put on the tide.
But I like their follow-up a lot. Like, first of all, Karlo is a great hero, Save is very good at it,
and you take it away from both GH and Nigma to not have the Karlo-Pango combo.
Yeah, and it opens up combos of your own, like the storm surge is taken out, but there's always ember.
There are things like Largo, people love Largo plus Caudal if they do end up wanting to run the Beastmaster mid, which I hope they don't.
But it's a possibility that they run this Caudal from the mid lane.
This is one of the stronger teams in terms of tempo.
When they are winning the game, they can close out the game in 30 minutes.
And I was looking at the stacks numbers as well.
Well, two of the lowest teams so far in the tournament with the stacks are Parvizion and Bedboot,
which means that they are focusing heavily on the lanes that their position for isn't going 15 seconds into the triangle.
The stack instead, he is putting a lot more pressure with Twiggy's rotation or putting more pressure with his offlaner.
Yeah, I'm not surprised that Save doesn't have...
Like, yes, he has had games where he's like 10-0, minute 12.
Yes, no time to stack.
Brother is getting kills in lane, keeping safe lane, going mid like he's uh, he's working overtime
One of the other solutions that the boom team was showing off yesterday against extreme against pango was bane
I don't know if a bane coddle if it's support duo or if the coddle is going mid
But is that something that nykma should be thinking about?
That's actually I mean it does seem that people are looking more towards the ports as an answer to pango
We're seeing veins. We're seeing wyverns. We're seeing Grimstrux, but the Beastmaster can also just be enough like the Beastmaster work
Plus range damage is something that you can just play off of without having to overcorrect
Yeah, I don't want to see
No, tell me don't break her carry
Not from bed not from bed poop
It looked atrocious probably one of the worst performances that I've seen heritage have yeah
a really long time he looked pretty stable and pretty much everything else but this was like the
what is this guy doing like did he wake up properly?
Caz however much more reasonable absolutely yeah on this hero on this hero my guy definitely cooks
I would like to not see Bane here I think especially against these two supports it's
really hard to play you can also like just give away grip maybe you can look for like something
in between like a Grimstroke or perhaps also they're looking for like a bit more of a body
But it does.
Their ledge is still available.
That's what I will say.
I am surprised about this pick.
It's cool.
It's great against pango.
Ain't no problem.
You have a super rude bait.
But yeah, but against these two subs.
Interesting.
It is interesting.
It feels maybe they want to see what more this hero can do for them,
even if it is playing against Rubik that can steal your good.
Because maybe they like the feel of it online.
And for right now, it also masks what this coddle may be.
If they picked a different role, then maybe we'd know if it's a mid or a support Coddle, but it's still TBD.
This is very scary when the enemy team has 18 and you pick Kez. The Doom teams will often pick Doom here, but I'm not sure what NIGMA's success with that hero has been.
I'm gonna check right now.
Yeah, I would say Cap. Like in terms of that, I love this matchup for Doom against Kez.
But the vice strikes me more of like the, I don't know, like maybe more of like the team fighting guy, as opposed to the I'm gonna shut down this one guy, I get really fat and then use my network to own him.
For sure, that feels like an accurate description of him. He did play it one time and it was a win, but that's only one Doom King in a whole tournament.
Perhaps the one other thing I can see about Bane, because what they did yesterday when they played against the army Tiny,
which was kind of cool, is that they had both Enfeeble and Fadebolt against the Tiny carry.
So maybe there's more to the Vayne where you're like covering the Tiny, where you know you...
If they pick it on AT and you're kind of happy, you have Enfeeble against them, they don't have any Dispel currently.
But this is one of the next heroes that is like up in line, the Axe against the Keds, it does look pretty good so far.
It does look good, they do have saves available, like I don't think Axe is gonna be having that good of a time
once you get the initiation going with the heals from Keeper of the Light, you have multiple BKB
piercing abilities, plus either Grape or you are sleeping the target that is getting initiated on,
which does take a lot of damage from them. So now we know that this pango is going to be played
from the mid lane, X from the off lane and Nigma Galaxy are looking for their carry. I feel like
they have like good amount of control but I also think that as we've seen I want to see if this is
going to be a snapfire ban because FGPK decides to play it again it feels really good especially
with Caudal behind him I think it could also be a very good Ember Spirit game because of how
you can push the tempo and this is one of the best pairings with Caudal that you can have.
Yeah I think both of those are pretty nasty like if I if I'm beast you love having heroes that can
can help you on your side lane, especially because you're likely going to play into a
counter pick, right?
As Nick must have left to pick their carry.
So I could absolutely see both of those.
Are there any Rincey Q heroes that you'd like going into this carry matchup?
I mean, there's some, but they don't love Beastmaster that much, right now.
To me, can be piercing abilities.
I don't think there's going to be like one super easy pick, I would be okayish with
just straight up, you know, maybe Tiny. Tiny does work well. If they didn't have as many
annoying spells, I would say Ursa could be okay, just for the game. I think it was, uh,
who was it? One of the Navi, they were using a lot of Ursa against Kez in general.
My issue with heroes like that for Nigma are they don't, it doesn't allow them to finish
the game when they're, when they're strong and when they take the lead. And I think something
I think like Tarablick can help them go for those earlier objectives if he does have a good start.
But the issue is there is of course the overall aspect of the game.
They played Jaracopter. This is one of the heroes that is good against the Beastmaster in the lane throughout the Dota history as well.
I don't believe in this hero at the moment, but if they feel like it's good, it could potentially be good for this game as well.
because you are building into like, Mantis style, there's a lot of spells against Caudal,
you use it, he can't group you, like you're kinda removing once they pre-target it,
and they are gonna kill you.
There's Muerta as well that could kind of fit the Gyrocopter rule that you mentioned, of course.
That hero's like very hit or miss, like, I feel it the same way that we are seeing some other carries,
like even some mid laners where it's like, when it's a good game, the hero owns,
but it's a very tricky hero to play.
Maybe Tiny is still just one of the most easiest for them to execute.
Luna is also in the pocket, if you think that's valuable.
It's a good tempo, but I don't necessarily love it into beasts.
The way I perceive Nygma is I need them to have a hero that will close the game out for
them.
Like them going to the ultimate late game isn't the best way that this team plays, and that's
why I mentioned the Terrorblade, it's a hero that will play for objectives that Elaine's
well against.
The Beastmaster bit just got a lot of armor, right, versus the, because the issue when you
pick Terrorblade is like you open up a situation for the enemy team to go pure magical damage,
at the end, and they do that with the murderous kisses.
It's a lot of boom, boom.
I think we saw GPK, because you showed what the hero can do.
I still can't believe that they're not respecting this matchup
after exactly what happened yesterday,
especially with these earlier rotations.
You pretty much gave them their best heroes.
Katomi is playing Bane.
This is his most played hero.
Over 70% win rate.
Save Caudal.
This has been a menace ever since, pretty much.
He started to join the scene.
Nero on the Beastmaster.
And now we have GPK, who's spamming this snapfire from the mid lane.
And Turblight is a hero with a lot of armor, but not a lot of HP,
and you can set things up on these side lanes super easily.
Yeah, honestly, I think both drafts are pretty fine.
I would slightly lean on the Bed Boom side,
just because I think in order for Axe and Pango to have a good game,
I mean, you need at least Pango to have a good early game and your subs,
and I think what's likely to happen is that Pango slightly loses mid, at least to the snap.
Your supports could be underleveled, because there's not many heroes to play through,
Because I think my boy GPK should kind of pop off in the early game
But if they can weather that storm later the TV has a pretty good matchup
I actually quite like Nigma's draft
And I also really like Rubik in this position
I think it's high-impact Rubik game and there are a lot of good spells to steal. I also think Terribleid is like here
They play really well around. I only worry about the classic Nigma throwing maneuvers. If those don't occur
I do favor them here
I think GPK is going to slap the shit out of them in the first 15 minutes.
Oh no.
I think GPK MVP 15 minutes and 5K gold lead for Blue to Globby team easily.
Which has been consistently happening.
Even the snapfire games that he's been losing, he still dominates in the land phase.
So we're going to be seeing if Enigma Galaxy may want to be sending out an SOS.
Let's get into a game number one with SVG and Garrett.
The best in the Bonto about this, Sapphire made it a great hero there for Ben Booth.
They showed off to great success last night against Extreme Gaming, hammering that fangalir,
but Turblade acts as something they can definitely aim to play that mid to late game with some
great strength.
That's VJ.
Looks pretty solid here from both teams, that boom going back to their tried and true
pango counters here, the Bane, the Sapphire mid, Beastmaster Roar.
That's very good.
Quinn is...
He was the biggest Patriot as you know, so what can you really say at the end of the day, you know?
On the flip side, Duke of the Galaxy, they do get their hands on that Pango.
Yeah, they found the bird down in the river, not in his natural habitat.
And of course, Tosh, he's going to be able to get back to the tree, but another blood grenade and battle hunger takes him down with final touch out of GH.
Nice little vibe for them. I think this is a lineup that would like one of the acts of Pango to get off to a really fast start,
And it's just kind of gonna bring it all together because the two supports, they have a lot of follow-up.
They have a lot of early nuke damage, techies always gives you that.
Pretty good mid-game as well.
You're gonna be able to kill anybody here with follow-up from the Rubik and the techies,
which means if one of these cores, again, gets out to a fast start, it's gonna bring all of that together.
It's gonna line up nicely, you can just kind of go around the map, threaten the Kezuz low HP,
threaten the snapfire a little bit.
If you have the pango with early defusal, put some of that extra damage in.
So, I kind of like their synergy.
I just think they have to execute it pretty well and hopefully not get
rawful stomped by GBK because he does have this favorite matchup and we've seen what he can do here.
Yeah, I think right, and the speed of which Bethem can play.
Getting out of these lanes very quickly.
So far, Kata, let me take you with a shift damage.
Ooh, this battle hunger.
And Takeniz is drag back, displacing a little bit and getting some crashes going.
Well, so far, noob.
A couple of last hits in this lane matchup.
Just never gets easier.
GPK, especially level 3 when that hits, things get pretty nasty.
I do like the Caudal on Slap too. I think Caudal, in theory, seems pretty damn good with the Sapphire.
Is a hero that really benefits from one, the extra mana and the cooldown reset.
Two, it's Gravy at the techies on lane.
We already saw Save displace the blast off with the Blinding Light level 1.
Oh nice.
So there's no ability for techies to ever go in here and combo or use that to fall on lane.
That's a huge detriment for GH down here.
I missed that one though, cooldowns did not line up.
But, I think the chakra for the beast is also going to be nice.
We have huge stacking potential for the snap or the beast here, and it can save us a master on this hero.
It's one of his signatures, so...
Hopefully you can get a lot done with it here, and you can bring Kata a little back into the light.
Yeah! I'm missing him.
There's a lot of talk as we enter Dream Lake about this healing hero.
I'll see if we get some more late time.
And Machu Puey is this beast master into the Terra Blade.
I feel like in the back of my head anyway, there's something TB used to struggle against but maybe that was just when the axes build were popular
It was mainly because it's here became a magic damage primary with the axes back spam on lane
Then he's farming stacks and he's really big and he's getting mags in the game
He just blink for kills you with magic damage. I think this beast is swinging back more towards summons
Little more swarm oriented with helm of overlord build up and terribly cold terrible
It should be a lot better against that style of this master for sure.
For now they're struggling to kill off wars.
Put them on the top of the mark.
And divide.
I'll let them free on the axe.
Shutting down this carriage, Cazal, ready.
After getting that first blood,
I'll have to put them down below 10 last hits and making this life pretty hard in the early lane stage.
Lane's looking pretty solid here for a stigma early.
You know, outside of the mid, which is always going to go to GBK's way.
as you can if you're new. So this is an expected loss lane, just mitigating damage, but so far, it's not doing too bad.
He hasn't had to invest in any extra regen. So he's losing CS, but he's keeping up there in that worth.
That's exactly what you want to see.
Play defensive, get what you can.
Yep, 100%. Like, if you can just stay high resources, I think Stalant has more for it.
Don't give the snap any sort of solo kill opportunity or some nonsense like that.
Night Mag and a Drango more back into a Kiritich.
They need a lot more damage, they just don't have it, this Cull back into spins, then you're
going to lose two of them, Omar turns and gives them the hits, powering back, cares,
and trying to escape with a little stun bash on Divide, but a double kill for the axe, putting
Nigma Garzi in good stead.
Super well played there, maybe not expecting a level 3, but there's Cull, but absolutely
paying off.
You get both for nothing, Kazarai Katana not able to bring this Rubik down, some of the
extra Tango region, so very well played there for me, not in the off lane.
That's why I said you want one of these to get a good early in it's likely not gonna be the pango because he's in this bad
Matchup you're looking towards that axe. I think they've done a pretty good job prioritizing the one here
I'd like to see get off to a fast bar here
Awesome, Billy like grenade to cancel clarity
I was looking at this techies honestly to maybe make a rotation through gate because that's a hero that plays from fog makes poles
Makes those sneaky moves
Very H is able to like move up there and get a go. It's really nasty to rubic techies into the lane
Oh, he's got Blimey lighted.
He did.
That was really greedy, actually.
I kind of have to expect these Blimey light counters, trying to go for the bore kills.
Still?
Pushing forward with the damage onto this Kotlin Beastmaster.
Save forced to pop the wand.
Now, the arrows just stand with the level 2 axes and 8 stick charges.
This helm of the Iron Will allows you to tank through the TP's damage for the most part, but...
I mean, Nygma Galaxy is showing they've got way more Iron Power than Betwim expected.
I was surprised he tried to turn there.
Because you have to wait for another wild axe to cool down, you just couldn't fight that long.
Huge place for Nigma in the side lanes.
Will said it's a terrible idea to base.
You can heal back up, he had to salve for that fight again, so...
We're in CQ, gonna do some walking here, but very happy to get the extra XP in both side lanes.
Now we're going to Nigma's lane.
Man, 5-0 stop!
G-H gonna irritate me, I was well, and we'll...
...we'll go into the camp.
Control the rest of the waves though.
Well, he's gonna come down to GPK here, trying to salvage his lane phase, maybe get some rotations with the power runes, make early kisses play.
I will say, Nygma's lineup is a little susceptible to the Mortimer's kisses here.
Terrorblade's a really nice target, he just TP'd down here, shoot the globs on him, he's dead. There's no way he's getting out of that.
Kinda staying with this axe. So I think both side lanes are solid targets for GPK if he wants to go for that play.
Could you play Intimid? Send the Bane Intimid and kill Pango?
Because that's GBK6 now, right?
You can because you have the level advantage.
I still take out these supports.
If you want to leave too much, they're going to look for some kind of power.
You're just not offering much setup right now.
Hmm, are we going to sleep them into kisses?
That's what I thought.
But for now, just go with the active rune.
Make me go like the same idea for them though.
Pango going to get the luck of the draw as well.
Well, Fortune does favor the bold, just runs down to that bottom-roof spot and knew it was going to spawn.
You definitely want to stop this sort of thing. Do you not want to let Divy get away with fishing creep coming?
I guess that's the downside right of leaving that lane.
I'm going to bottom here, Axe is thrown into TB but it's not enough to kill him.
Now GH is going to force him back again.
Move from Oma to help out as well
This means their interview has got to make that TP plus two TP's back to fountain
It's had enough he ferried he ferried south to take that first bite
Then he had to go to base come back and now he's had to go to base again
There's a lot of time off the lane for an agi carry
Terribly can jungle super fast. So this is not
It's not terrible for him like he's looking okay, but it's definitely gonna hurt his net worth overall
It's not necessarily the hero that you need to play through, right?
You've been talking about this, Fursher, Axe and Pango, get them up and rolling before
you make moves, but I guess players like Yattaro have seen these other mental horses used to
go for early tier ones.
I guess that's off the menu here.
These are farming methods from the Tera Blade and just sit jungle for a bit.
Gotta recover a little bit here.
Maybe you can join a tail end of fights or something through a gate, but otherwise you're
just hoping your team makes some space for you.
century has seen this inverse so noob has been scouted. A lot of wasted time for him.
I think his GPK got the full three lane mid, a bit of chip damage on tier one
and then the option of where he wants to move as his sol ring just gets delivered.
You have a pretty nice odds here, it's gonna scout this one.
So Nigma Galaxy prepared for the Sapphire rotations, which you should be when you play against
And that's also Pango going for level 6 ulti.
We've seen a fair few players, you know,
Malfing Mal'Reen definitely comes to mind.
She's going like 4-4-0 sometimes, or ult at level 8.
That's a falcon's thing, I think.
Just get really greedy, farm up.
This is a good work-play style.
Rotations are risky on these bits.
And when it whiffs, I do whiffs for it.
Contesting camps in the jungle, though.
Must be work out for them.
This castle tries to eliminate one down.
Kisser's arriving onto Omar as well.
Few of them land and the kill comes in.
GBK, one range artillery to snipe him.
Such a stupid spell on the early game.
Someone's dying every time he hits the plate.
It's not really avoiding the issue, unless you're just killing Sapphire off cooldown.
Tells to defend the stacks here as well, really important for this model to get the XP off this.
No invasion, and now that.
I'm going to dominate those up.
Easy as you like, the Beastmaster.
Meanwhile, trying to get some stacks going of his own, but TPK and Katomir are there to contest this.
They have a lot of health and with the help of Omar, Blood Grenade might man to turn back onto this Rubik.
And it looks like Snapfire, realising no Firepower remaining, needs Kiritich to come in with a nice spin back and a finishing touch from Katomir.
No, we'll take down the pain.
Now you've lost your axe and control of the ancients, because TPK and Kiritich can keep fighting.
that rolling thunder's gone, Omar's in trouble, Blastoff's good, into that
snapfire now and a swashbuckle to do some damage and clear a tige. There's nowhere
near enough, and the cavalry from the right hand side is saved on the keeper of
the light. Illuminate, the chakra magic, everything flowing into that boom to keep
this skirmish going to get another bonus kill and move past the
swashbuckle defensively, but that will get him out of arm's reach.
That fact safe gets there for the talent of that is wild. That fight just lasted so damn long.
Great fight for Kirtage, in the end.
I think you get a couple of kills of extra XP on this nice little kez.
I think we're also starting to see the power of the coddle-snap combination there.
Not just the chocker, but the solar bind.
You get slowed down, you're just taking right-clutch and a snap.
If you get blasted with the solar bind on top of you, you're done.
It's really good.
No shot, you're getting out of that situation.
So, not a bad fight for Pet Boomer all.
Yeah, even though the wisdom shrine went 1-1, we've got both die supports.
One of the model states one getting close. Bane, it's level five.
Let's get some time for that.
A little bit, but both raiders support. Not quite there yet.
I'd really like some ults here. Bring that firepower to the table.
Back up the axe and pango. You already have the blade mount on the axe. You should have to fuse on pango here.
And, you know, a couple more waves.
And you're fully online for the early skirmish here. You can try and defend your towers.
Kill his Beastmaster a couple times before the big helm comes out.
The instructions are fortified.
Spends the shield crash, now he's all alone!
The close range proximity shell from GBK and the arrival of Kiritich with a backstab wraparound.
It seems like Bedbooms just have so many angles of approach.
Well, on Nekma Galaxy, there's only one way to retreat.
And they're fighting without X.
Which to me is their best early game hero here.
Kind of the powerhouse you want to be scurver sheet through, you want the fight to be on your hacksaw.
Where you can get these blade mail calls off early.
Or if you're not confident fighting without blink daggers, then you have to dodge these fights,
But he's stuck in these early scurvers against Caudal's Sapphire, where they're outranging you.
It's miserable for insecure. Like, what is this terrible it's supposed to do?
Too much long-range artillery in this lineup.
And again, Solarbind. I think G.H. just died to Solarbind, just so he can't move.
Yeah, he's stuck in Charlie. It's miserable.
Now you're already at blink on this snap.
That's the thing, right? That's the fight. Pre-blink, snap, pre-hum of the Overlord.
Yeah.
A little concerning here.
This is only going to get better here for Beth Boomb in the next few minutes.
I've got five metal lead completely crushed now, as Beth Boomb the one with a couple of K advantage in net worth.
This is all space for a heritage as well. He's just happily farming jungle camps while the rest of his team making him out of space.
That's what we'll call it for Kata Irming.
Why are you so little high golfed? I mean, you get Axe Blink here.
You're gonna be able to make some plays, especially with these supports behind you.
So all eyes on the bylaw
It's just divine now I got rid of the llama. Yeah, he did. What happened? Sure
So much of looking at it
Maybe some of those things, you know, like like share, right? It's just more impactful to have one name
Part is formally known as by Prince
The same thing with Quinn I forgot his last name
I'm talking to him the other day like hang on a second I actually cannot remember your last name is because in my head he's just
wait
even CC and C
Most back-drungle there for me. He hasn't been CC and C for a while
Well ever was he ever cool calm collected share a ditch
Surviving on the tree. He's throwing thunder from new rules. He'll his fate
If damage really thunder diffusals delivered
See, there's timing here.
And again, that's where you want to fight.
To me, if you're digging there, go to the stacks lane.
Not a lane that's just who you want to try and defend.
They're just going to go for the trades.
They do have the Black Dragon mid.
Have with Overlord.
Online.
Even got a little nut in Steve's pocket.
Nice.
Getting to one feels pretty important to me in the Galaxy as well,
when you're recovering with a Terra Blade.
If you want easier access to these outer jungle camps, easier way to twig gate and play the map with illusions.
So getting that to one top is pretty important for them.
I've seen this before.
But with that boom playing in there, nor the jungle and Omar just disappears on our screen,
or Katalini, or Spongebob's Misses again!
Noobs, we've had some trouble here.
Handing them and a roar from the arrow connects on Devine mid TP.
That's not the hero you want to be losing right now.
Especially to this swarmy metboob lineup.
Swap speed picks up, acceleration quickly from Bed Boom, they go from one fight, then start playing three lanes at the same time.
They're gonna have to have Snap Fire Shard as well, so this is again Chakra Magic Shard, Blink Snaps, just gonna be running the map.
There's not a lot you could do about it unless you're just willing to bring the whole 4-man hit squad.
The DAX called the Pango Roll and just nuke him down, because the hero's so damn tanky.
Quite often it's felt like this, Kez has had a good time joining these fights from some
weird angle.
If you get bogged down in this like 30 second, 40 second fight, the Kez suddenly appears
from behind you.
Oh yeah, it's a nightmare fuel.
Whereas Terriblead is thinking, hmmm, do I really want to join, I'm pushing away guys,
I'm on the opposing side of the map and I do not have a way to get through.
He's pretty far.
Basically you're recovering pretty nicely here.
Got a lot of time to just farm out this bottom half of the map. There are dire
ops here but that boot unable to put any ganks or pressure into this terrible
focus, you know, on killing the tempo here. Very reasonable.
And everyone's that beast mass to blink his up.
Go hunting for him.
So now he's being terribly, he's being body guarded by GH.
I'm not sure I like Miro playing on stuff for half of the map for so long, especially
with two dire ops in this green jungle.
I think you want to be kicking this terribly out of here, looking for the wraps in the
mid or in the triangle potentially with your staff connecting.
I think Miro will be in top for the last two minutes or something, keep Nigma breathing.
There's no pressure on the map.
I wonder if it's because they expected Nigma Galaxy to try and play more into top lane,
so Beastmaster was maybe sitting there thinking,
hey, if they go on me, I can roll then stop them and UTP potato and help them.
I think it's the tower died.
I would agree if the tier one were still up.
Yeah.
And you're kind of defending, baiting this tower, baiting Nigma into a bad fight
where you're prepared, ready to TP in with your Kezalaxe.
That, I think, would have been reasonable.
With the tower dead, there's no way Domai is pushing up super deep on Axe
into kind of his flying map when it's terribly just AFK on bottom.
It's never Galaxy, they like to go for these demons.
Okay, Chris, there's targets, I'm too confused.
Can get hungry.
I don't know if you're thinking that again.
Call up the dragon, but divide next to his tower, just get stunned and kissed down.
Very simple stuff from Betboom as now they bring heroes into this Beastmaster
and pushes the lane into tier one.
I just felt like a very...
Weakest people we play?
Yeah, I don't know, there's like a lazy death in a way.
Just nothing happening for so long and this beast was just wandering up here and then straight into bed.
Nice telekinesis, but still gonna get blasted down by a 5 hour GPK.
Katzoma was also looking for anybody to grip if there was additional target.
Oh, he's got RK running, so...
He's cruising right now.
Do not want to give him too many of these pick offs.
No more action, huh?
You got the greedy S3 as well?
Super nice here for some extra HP. Maybe just straight into Rosh. Triple Greedy? As we do. They really like their Greedys.
Just keep that money flowing in. You're already 3k ahead.
Influx of cash into your bank account. As they start to Roshan.
Now they can scout out Nibigalax's approach. Katomian saved both
lurking on that left-hand side making sure there's no sneaky steal or jump on it.
Oof.
They began to just cannot get in there, and with the high ground vision, they've gotten my mare on the pango.
I'm not gonna go for it.
They're trying to dangle this bane in front of them and saying,
Come on, go on it, so we can actually turn from our high ground position.
Yes, he walks back up.
And now the key says,
Oh Mark, well he put himself too far forward this time.
Divide does get the jump onto Kiritage.
Thinking about the rolling thunder, but Miero gets the roar down, swashbuckle,
spent, gets the distance away, but Axe has been left stranded.
And Chase is on now as they've got a grip on the terraplane, so he did try and join from
the angle on the right hand side.
The Thunder comes out.
Keep your case too tight through the essence ring though.
Way too tanky.
And RhysticQ has spent everything here.
Look to help his friends got caught in the quackmire of destruction by Batboo.
That is not how you want that fight to go.
Just getting poked out from long range artillery, you don't want to jump the bane who's showing,
but then you're getting slept over the hill.
are getting solar bound and then the kisses come through.
Kisses are a great formation breaker because you're getting vision, you're feeling the
damage, you're forcing heroes out of position and all of a sudden you can just take that
high ground position without getting axe cult going up the ramp.
But Nikolai didn't get to cast any spells, did they?
I don't really think they got the fight and I think the biggest thing here is indecision.
Are you jumping the pit while you think Roche is going down or are you farming the map getting
top way down and just exchanging it for Roche?
They didn't either, right?
They go to the pit, but they don't jump it.
They don't take the fight.
They're just lingering until they get gone on.
And then divide.
It looks up to his name.
He goes in onto the Aegis Heritage Kiz.
Pango and Tanki's both ran away, then Rysecute arrives.
I think you're right. Indecision is the...
You cannot be indecisive in this game with these lineups,
because so much of your teamfight is predicated on an axe jump,
a pango rolling in, and then support follow-up.
If you're just lingering around,
someone's getting sore about,
someone's getting summoned on by the Beastmasters,
someone's getting blasted by the long-range artillery.
You're getting chipped. You don't have the same chip damage.
And now we're looking at a pango who is thousands behind.
He's down on the rock.
Very rough one now.
And that's the design here from Beppu.
Limit his laying stage presence,
limit his moves around the map,
and then in the fight you have to worry about roar,
you have to worry about grip.
A lot of problems to solve here.
Like, there's an entirely different universe we live in
where that sentry top wasn't there.
Like, maybe he gets a kill, like snowball things forward.
Sure.
You know these little things definitely can't add up, but Pango's had a lot of struggles through his life.
All of the hurdles he's put in front of him.
Gotta find a way to win a big teamfight now after they make my galaxy.
You can maybe dodge his Aegis period.
If you're worried about the two lives on the case, I think you can fight into it if you're very well positioned.
Illusion bait, maybe?
Yeah, nice! Well done!
Very nice.
Take spelldown.
That's such a morale boost for Noob as well, it's like, yes, okay, I've got to do something.
Oh, it's going to get nightmared.
A nice call from Divy.
He's on the character, Jan Cato, I mean, for the chisels.
He's all on.
Rims and Q and Noob, thinking about making a big fight of this, but the grip is there on the rolling thunder.
He just down, but the pango is falling quickly.
I don't have the full follow-through with the physical damage though.
He needs his Kez alive, the thunder.
Rims him low, but Divy's been blown up, and now GPK's come in.
Shiny golden snapfire, dealing with them all.
Axe is bought back!
When's the gear he's being hammered down?
Characters don't call them killed!
Devy, the buyback working out somewhat,
but if he loses his life now, what a disaster!
Is this dieback Axe?
Are you falling?
That killed his game.
He had some great calls, there's just no follow-up on them.
The rest of the team is afraid to commit into the artillery and...
...either not close enough, you didn't really get any good Rubik's feels.
I saw he saw...
...he's full...
...like a random snap, so I think he got a little shredder there.
the second time just not concise enough not there all at the same time maybe an
awkward spot to fight in an awkward way to start it with your pain we're gonna
start walking a little bit you have to make a call quite literally you have to
go in and call you're doing it in the ages as well
and die back on your axe there is brutal
such an early DKB as well on this case he goes in that's scattered lasted so
much damage. That's tremendous, and usually when you're the one with the techies, you're putting
down the foundations, putting down these mines to make sure that there's no easy advance,
but you don't have the chance to speed, for Bedroom just cutting it down his top lane.
She's not punching together right now. Look at this, look at that, he's the cataract,
you know, two, she's annihilating this terribly, he has to bail on the fight.
And it's as if Bedroom doesn't have a backlight either. It's impossible to go in and finally
support heroes because they're just invisible hiding in the fog.
That's a lie.
Yeah, this die bag really, really hurts him.
Just get kited to the extremes here.
Down go GH.
Every two of them are going quite fast.
You have big items Lee supports too.
If you get Azelens on Bane, I love playing this hero.
I think it's tough to get nasolence fast those hero in a competitive game
I'm not even sure it should be your first item, but when you do you feel like a god
It's so damn strong hero
It's not an item that's considered very good in general is it put on on pain
Yeah, that's speed just because the build it the build up's awkward. It's a spellfish. I don't know a lot of ways great
It's not a glimmer cape. It's not a poor staff
He's got a shield crash, but he's dead
He's a goner
Chalker magic on the stand is so stupid, especially once he gets into the double cookie charge where he's got a double cookie double
Blast you with the boomstick
To disgusting out of damage
Great hero against terribly too
This is the exact type of hero you want just super high magic damage burst plus long range back damage that you can't slumber against
You kind of have the best of both worlds
6-0 14
20 out of the 21 kills, GPK has been called in all of 1.
Having a tremendous time.
Now Beppu is just looking for objective after objective now.
Tier 2 part long gone, now into ultimate lane.
Dragging to frontline without committing any heroes.
So this is an inevitable tower dying.
Radiant Havoc lift, but I'm supposed to see the board and using it here.
You know it's falling.
The rest of the team are scrambling to the extremities of the map looking for farm.
Alright some lads, axe BKB, you know, like a thousand gold away.
You need the next set of items across all three cores. You need axe BKB, you need axe pango, and you probably need butterfly terrible gear.
And then you're gonna try and make that one last fight altogether, hopefully to late roast bomb.
That's your way back in this game. You are not fighting before them though.
They're struggling to see the way they get onto GPK, unless it is 5 man smoke.
A bit of vision. Everybody can't even go right.
Maybe you can ignore them if you jump the kez with the axe conch. All in Kiritich.
With BKBs you can ignore a lot more of the sapphires damage, give you a larger
window in the fight if you can take the kez out. So I think there is a router.
It's gonna have to be a still has to be a stick angle though.
There's so many threats right like your BKB is raw, fiends grip, there's tools here to
catch you. It doesn't last long.
Damn, for another 45 seconds, the entire map belongs to BedBoom and that means Roshan
is theirs.
There's no way that we can contest this at all.
Nah, you need to get to that axe, BKB, that's the bigger factor here.
Maybe GH can do some sneaky maneuvers.
Trying to find a little pocket to hide in.
Get some sort of lock down.
That's a good word.
Looks like it's counted.
Get her, Titch.
I have an idea.
I can't quite get to that point.
Keech.
Doing college work as usual.
Trying to make something out of nothing here.
They do have the axe on the pango.
So they're kind of a third of the way there.
One of the pieces.
That's a terrible late. It's getting close to that box of wire you said.
Yep.
They're gonna get there.
Might be too far behind to salvage anything.
Especially against another Aegis here.
But we'll see.
I think mid-stamp does kind of have that later mid-game valley that he falls into.
Where you're just mega strong on lane, really strong in the early fights.
And then you kind of get to that, you know, level 15 to 20.
It falls off a little bit.
little bit. Your spells aren't as impactful as they used to be. People's HP goes up, they have
BKBs, they have magic resist items, you're not doing that big physical yet until you're way later
talent. So I do think this is the big weakness of the hero. Is that mid game valley? If you're just
so strong you leap over the valley entirely, well then the game's gonna feel pretty good.
I also think it really helps having BKB piercing supports, or at least one, with this hero as a
mid because then one of the best items against you gets negated at least a little bit in value
so i think the pain snap is actually a really nice combination you know you're gonna go on a fight
you're gonna try laying out your spells and snap someone's gonna bkb if they get gripped you feel
amazing that's how that bkb gone exactly so i think there's a lot of value here in the synergy of
the petro line oh actually escapes once more gh making the space exactly there and now they have
Well, there's the BKB on the axe, so...
And the butterfly, so they got there.
And Snap spent BKB as well.
That move don't have to be K over in this ancient area.
Let's scan forward and see if anyone's coming, but I think my guys are nestled in their base.
It's the issue of fucked away.
Is there time to fight?
But are you confident enough to do it into the ages?
Uh, it's just...
With no vision.
Yeah, of course, there's other characters here.
Just item timing-wise.
You're kind of peeking right now.
now. You can have an Amp Damage, right? Yeah, Amp Damage on the Pango too, so... Man, it
really doesn't get much better than this. Ah, it feels like it's go time. I'm gonna
smoke on the tankies. They're all playing pretty tight together. They know that there's
dive vision down here. They're fully scouted. That pretty nasty ward. I know exactly where
the TV and the Axe are.
Normally, you'd want to bait somebody here if you're in the galaxy.
That's the way you get the fight.
But they have no save.
So you can't really bait anybody there.
I think they just get all in.
There's that smoke.
Imported move.
They're on the beast master.
Straight up.
Oh, good job.
Great save.
BKB in the raw turn.
Miro.
No one's coming to help him.
But they've got the Holy Locket Heal.
And the pango in the back of Gryffins.
Oh, my God.
But he became Miro.
Just shrugs it all off.
Now Axe.
Trying to call and run back.
But curious it's with his BKB going.
and a spin around, not less than all that much, and actually, first life down immediately off the back of the TV damage,
but the kiss is landing.
That old zone him back, meanwhile, divide, and forced away.
Trying to retreat through the tree line, but...
J's forward by save, G8 with another blast off, and Rince Q moving forward,
looking for TPK on that northern side, but the terror blade just being shredded by the axes,
the damage, the kite, the katanas, everything to annihilate them, and with terror blade dead for 50 seconds.
I don't know what Nick McGarras can do now.
The diamond behind T3, that was a triple kill by Kiritich.
And honestly, what feels like game.
Yeah, that was your last shot to win some sort of fight.
You lost the pango on the back lines of the grip.
The fight's super displaced.
The Beastmaster survives the initial jump.
That just felt like a backbreaker there.
He had the glimmer wholly locking it out of there.
What are you supposed to do about that other than you should have all in him more?
Just big damage coming up from the 1 and 2 here.
Sapphire picking up the slack at the tail end of that fight.
A little extra Chalker magic to push over the edge.
Very clean game here from that boom and game one.
G.H. going for it.
Giving a shot with a ton of damage out of this mine.
Oh, great call.
Gaster Coole onto two of them.
Oh, he can't kill me arrow.
Ah, there's a stolen roar. Oh, mine needs some help.
G.H., get in there my son.
Come on, do something.
I just killed that echo splash almost one shot and we're now gpk's in here looking to blast down in on to that rubik
Oh, I will buy back
mtq
Just stand there
Like they're on his way through the roshan found up
That boom they don't want to leave. We're getting a lot of extra kills here
They should leave those they are completely out of resources on some of these guys
30 deso charges. That was a significant burst damage going into these low armor supports.
Can't believe the body is getting anything out of that axe call.
She got him highly. Even with the stolen roar.
Brutal. Yeah, now TB has to deal with the MKB of cans as well.
Oh, it's a nightmare.
They're no longer protected by this line.
Already done on the snap. Oh, yeah. There goes your mid-game valley. I feel like he just as I said left over completely here already has the 20
talent for the shredder hits as he's going to physical build purely
He's cruising
80 and 20 perfect game for GPK
And all you can do is nigma his group up and hope.
Maybe try and dangle someone in front of Bat Boom, look for this turn around fight.
They showed they can kill the Kez.
They've got enough firepower to blow him up and if he steps a little too far forward
now he could get jumped.
The vision is here for Nigma Galaxy, Kesh, Rage, into a mainbomb, just leaps into the cold basically and dies!
What?
Okay, Keratid!
For us on the team, are you gonna try and fight back into this?
They can't fight it.
Don't want to overextend here.
That was a gift.
Sometimes it's best to take the gift, and go home.
Don't get caught in Gamble's balancing.
Sorry, just...
Have a nice quiet evening. Unwrap that present.
Nothing wrong with that.
No. Quit while you're ahead. Get the other one there.
That was one of those instances where fortune does not favor the bold.
For Kez?
Yeah. I'm going to leap up this hill. They're not all going to be there, right guys?
No they're not.
They were all there.
I didn't know. I can't believe it.
I have a little bit.
A 24k lead for them though.
Pretty monumental.
But in my case, the bit boom, I need to wait for Roshan.
I'm never confident without that Aegis against a Lick-a-Garage
side like this who can jump and kill one of your cores.
It's also the level advantage.
Their cores are just so high level.
It's a 15-level difference in this game, 22 on GPK, all he needs is to step down from
the bay.
And this is the issue, snap is an insanely broken hero and you get this many levels so
fast.
And now the Strader is AOE, more targets, more attacks.
Very good talent.
There's a there's a scale issue in this game for big big Alexi to it at some point I think
Which is scary to say even with the TV yeah, even with it. I think
Destroyed in the ultra late if it goes there
You will have a very good late game
Or when you're playing from this far behind
To any high damage dealers to any big spells to worry about
That fire is gonna clear through you
Yeah, right. It's not a game where you can just put all your eggs in the TV basket
No, because he's buying BKB now and it makes sense you probably need linkers and lotuses to try and
Deal with these spells because yes, you can't buy them. Yeah, it comes from the team
Yeah, look at pango or the axe or something to try to do it
I also just think we've seen terribly suffer in these true. I'm gonna one key five
It's not the same ultra lake you can get shatter used to me. I
Think there's only a couple heroes left to go to they can really do that
Maybe faceless void, maybe specter, we don't see it here a lot. PL can do it in an absolutely
free PL game, right? Some of these cheesier heroes. Terrible, it's just... I'm gonna
go in here, I'm gonna deal some solid damage. I'm gonna be a real big threat. But if he's
against big scaling tricors, he almost never wins those ultralates.
Was it you saying you'd like to see him have a thing that number go up?
Yeah, yeah, we were talking about it in the green room. In terms of how do you make this
Agi-Carry scale. We watched those games yesterday where he was trying to kill that Amar Timbersaw and he was like,
Oh man.
Who's the actual Carrey?
Right, it's the Timber.
So if a Timbersaw is a bigger threat, they can be terrible. That plays wrong and terrible.
Yeah, for sure.
I was thinking maybe one of those, like, Windranger legion things, where, you know, a kill within range loads of...
If they have to run, there's something like that.
He needs a little bit of help.
Uh, I would stand by that.
I'm trying to get a good angle here.
Oh, that was the dream that they got away!
Oh, that was ideal to find GPK there.
That is exactly what you wanted out of that smoke.
You just could not capitalize and now you're in big trouble
because you're going to get scouted by these summons.
They're going to run the frontliners in.
Oh, man, Miero, he knows.
He's going to find them axes, BKB up, roar on the Rubik.
Hango rolling with a TB, BKB is standing with a QS.
What a damage from the QS!
What?
Keratin shuts it all down in the blink of an eye.
Well, this game's toasted, isn't it?
Three God Gem Tops?
If you can do that, this game's absolutely toasted, please.
We've been talking about the supports, the chakra,
the sapphire, the B summons.
But there's a Kessler's game, please.
And apparently, you can just delete your Jerry in two seconds.
It looks very cool stuff.
Well, that was an echo slash and two hits.
Yeah, five hits.
I think too, right which definitely helps you this a little bit more
So double damage because you're stuck in both echo hits
Basically got hit four times there span of the second. They have a haste and an apple fight
Double well, that's quite that's quite lucky
MKB also just bypassing your butterfly time
Game looks a little toasted here Gary even have an ax on the bay now. I don't even know if he needed at this game
But he's got it.
I'm just making sure that the thunder is just never going to happen.
He's got to grip that TB.
Long lines drawn now by BatBloomstain, let's play down that top lane.
We've got the supercrux mid, play into top, get into enemy ancients.
Play from that high ground spot.
Play through vision.
They've already got bottom lane shoved all the way across the river as well.
Pull back. Just wait.
Wait for these lanes to go in. Group up. You can go higher if you want. You can also wait for 25 on snap.
You have a hex on the caudal.
It's not really anything else you're waiting for here if you're just the level 25 on GBK. Might be the big ticket.
That talent is mega broken here.
Beast after the boost and trample as well. So he's playing like a dawn break basically.
Farming back in the jungle, and you can join whenever he wants to.
Took that refresher shot too, so we've got to remember there's potential double roar coming out of here.
Time to start finding the base, I guess.
That's the trick, I think.
Gotta start somewhere.
I'll be honest, I think when you're in the position where your mind goes,
I've got to start finding the base.
That doesn't ever work out.
Not really.
Not like it ever works out, man.
We love talking about it, but I don't think I've ever seen it succeed.
You can do some trickish and antigans where you mine up a line into the base,
and then when he goes higher on you double force him through all the mines.
Yeah, like blink, call, run and taunt him back, double force him, cause you can force his direct right?
Yeah.
You gotta get creative in these situations. I'm not saying the chance is high.
You gotta look for all the little angles. It's good practice anyway.
Make me honestly don't ever give up either.
They're gonna go down with the ship, with the throne, and set up these lanes, see if they
can find this one individual target that could lead them up to high ground.
We're currently looking at only three heroes on Nygma Galaxy with buybacks.
I actually really like that mindset from this team.
I think it's been there since forever.
They will never early GG it.
Yeah.
He's on this roster, I assume he comes from Kuro, kind of his idea, released the core
group of guys that have found this organization for a long time.
I think it's a good mindset, because I think you can stay here and go, okay, yeah, this
game's over, we're down 40k, from a theory standpoint, we're never supposed to be able
to win this game.
But let's say you're down 30k at TI in all of the nation games, you're just gonna head
out the door.
No, you're going to win the game, right?
Exactly!
So you've passed up, that's a skill set you can practice.
You can practice being in extremely tough situations and trying to find some openings.
Maybe you find some good fights in the game and you still lose it, but you learn something.
Exactly.
And you build that mentality.
I think other people talked about it's really hard to be a team that just slips the switch
when you need to.
That's a ridiculous concept.
It requires an extremely unique set of characteristics and personnel.
Well like the team spirit switch.
I don't even know.
Yeah.
I don't even know if I want to call it that they're maybe the closest to it
Zoning kisses still we can find in the back of the vision
Think gh has been scouted over by his minds in the tree all right son straight up
Nightmare as divide makes the jump on cares mirrors in with the roar on TV
Can they control where do you go under the terribly getting?
Nullated as the snap flies gonna come in when CQ was the thunder and we'll get it on the snap flow
able to stand with his peak if he's going, his Kyrgyz spins around onto Noob, the stolen
spin out of Omar though, deals with the cares.
Now GHM another blast off as they fight back, axe and pangolir.
Betboom have to bring GPK back into this one with a fight back of his own, while Kyrgyz
is dropping low, another call and the TP damage hold on to their tier 3 tower.
Miro, he's moved in, so is GPK, they want to try and finish off this game, knowing that
there's not much left in the track for Nigma, but they're terribly...
He backed up behind his barracks and got the dieback out of the snapfire.
Got to do it right now.
Safe.
He's being run down as well.
The Pango Jesus 4 won a double kill for Rincey Q.
Nigma Galaxy, that mindset.
They found a way to re-tell themselves back into this game.
That's exactly why you don't GG out on it.
That's a great fight for them.
They get the snapfire dieback in this game.
Rikki Pk is supposed to be an untouchable god.
He did deal 10,000 damage.
These Shredder hits going through are annihilating people, but the Rincey Q Terrorblade stands tall, he does not have to buy it, spend your supports you spend, you're pangolier, it's a great call from Dubai, you have to start this off somehow.
Where was the Grip? I thought the Grip was going to come on the Terrorblade, does it glimlicate, does it BKB?
And what about the Pangol? So it kind of didn't stop, but it didn't kill him.
So you still have a lot more space to work with in the fight, and ultimately, if Terribley's alive, that's what your line is built around.
Just him sitting there in the back with this nail is chunking people down.
That should have gone better for Bethel. They had overwhelming firepower. They had double heads, they had axe grip.
They had two lives with a buyback on the snap.
Unable to break the base.
Incredible fight from Nick Magalux here. That's a 7-8k gold into their pocket.
Nice swing.
Bit of map to play into as well.
Now, finally the matchup for Osh was up.
Oh, that would've been huge.
Of course, that's a base push with Aegis, but...
Hey, you win another fight like that.
Could be back in this game.
So that takes.
The longer the game extends out, the less and less these net worth leads actually matter,
because we're getting to 6-lot territory on a lot of these cores.
I don't think they got great value out of the refresh shot out, so...
Yeah, they did not get to use the cheese.
just swapped it back in, he could have popped it, but that axe call at the end came out
right before he used it, and then he just got all in from about half HP. So you were
missing somebody out of that Roshan.
That's the biggest thing, you win that fight if you're diagonal, but you're sitting on
four buyback cooldowns so you can't survive another exchange like that and I'm
shooting terror blades just flying out right yeah 100%
getting all the items you can for this last there's just one more defense guys
one more hold one more did get only kids done so you have at least one spell
block here you have a Lotus on Rupic as well as that shard so two and a half
Lotus on the pango three and a half Lotus soon on the axe it's a great
Lotus game, got three of them here, plus that LinkedIn's in the next few minutes.
Taking a leaf out of Team Spirit's book.
Oh yeah.
Spam all these saving spells and abilities.
There's a lot to reflect here, the Solar Binds.
I mean, Lotus is amazing against Caudal for the Solar Binds,
but you have double hexes line up, the Roar slash potentially double Roar there on,
all the Bane spells, really good.
Lotus sword game, can't blame them.
I'm thinking back to that replay as well.
I only also had problems approaching because all the mines by the barrier that GF put he couldn't blink in
And do anything to the TV
So that's also something to consider the high ground defenders advantage for this mine plays for sure
If you're playing out on the map this wide over your expanse ride there's so many more ways for kids to get in and out
It's not it nearly the same fight if you're outside the base
Defenders advantage is
You're also able to start the fights or at least get multiple axe calls off, because
Beppum are entirely under your vision.
As we've seen, the vision has been an issue in this game, because you just don't have
the same map control.
Way more difficult to get those axe calls when you're out on the map in a random spot.
We'll regain some map controller though.
Oh, that will be a terrifying thing to call their own.
I'm just standing on top of this high ground clearing mud columns
while I wait to see what comes their way.
That's definitely no rush though.
Falters are a little bit, they're just gonna reset, get the next round of items up,
play for the next Roshan, let the top wave do its work here along with the mid wave,
missing its racks.
You can always force someone from the Big Mac Galaxy to show in base.
Terablade Illusions, only doing so much here.
You can also just save your buybacks.
Roche is available.
Dire side, Dire outpost.
Definitely want to just do it here.
You have all the buybacks except that Snapfire one on the cooldown,
and Tez is a little short of gold.
You should have all the information in the world.
That's bad, boom.
Knowing that the one plane that you guys can make is to Tez's Roche.
They have to contest it. You can't survive another base push today just without buybacks here
They're gonna buy out
All that terrible late satanic flying in aren't you cute pretty fat?
See what did you do here with the true late game had she carried?
Be the big man lodging in charge
sending illusions in the pit to scant our carriage issues starting on Roche
Kisses again this impressive fire making it difficult to meet the guys need to approach a little early though
Mine's thrown in the pit.
When's the cue? Stepping forward.
Let them have to reset.
That is a scary smoke.
All five of Nygma Galaxy are obscured.
Peppermint way rather just hate the fight than
force this erosion of an awkward spot.
You have so many ways of jumping and disabling.
Oh, Divy and Miero, the two offlaners.
Initiation heroes.
Don't go for each other.
Why? Why?
Why?
He's going to get run at now.
See?
Full spectre high ground, lift up, grip there on the pangalir.
That boom not chasing up the staircase though, respecting this terrible aid.
That disguise. Absolutely.
I don't know how you blame that right there.
I don't know how you don't get punished either.
Also why?
It's such an irrelevant ruin that position.
Exactly.
Like maybe if it's a DD or an Arcane.
I feel like you should just get roared or gripped in the river.
Just kill him.
You know he has no pie.
I don't re-smoke done.
What?
I don't know how to say what happened.
The thing is they vetted so it kind of worked out for Beppu anyway because now Rincey Q
is sitting here going uh...
Guys?
I got five seconds left.
No aggs.
Come on.
You know nothing.
nothing. See I'll admit it here if you want to force the roast, the bi-back timers are coming up pretty
well, it's a little interesting.
Charity's gonna realize, just go straight into the pit, another roar, another jump call, Nightmare
Save though, that wise plenty of time for cares as they grip the pangolier roll in the back.
Charity goes forward up to divide the axe, being pummeled and roared down by the Beastmaster.
Stolen roar though, Omar creates a bit of space for GH and Rincey to skip away. Meanwhile the
Nightmare Cato, he's dealing with the Pangalir.
Ah, new Mr. Groot.
Yeah, he's done for.
GPK's arrived with that Solar Bind help.
Which on the damage was safe to pick up the kill.
And now they can gather up all the goodies inside the pit,
finish off Rocham,
for themselves that Aegis Refresher shot.
Cheese and banner.
Went for the big plays with the call,
trying to get something out of it.
Unfortunately, the...
the Kez got bashed just on by Rocham
or whatever nonsense and you just can't hit him in the call and the pulse comes out anyway, you're even going to get GH at the end.
Aw, of course he goes to save at least.
That fight, you're never going to win that fight with Meta going on cooldown anyway, you're just trying to whip to steal something there.
Well, I guess you're in the same position as you were before in a sense.
We'll have some buybacks here, you'll have a high ground defense.
Yeah, Axe doesn't have tears and he's still dead for the third.
We'll have a bit of time before he respawns and Betboom are going to try and use this
opportunity to get another lane.
The matter's up!
I just don't see if I'm defending this top lane.
Try and hold out from bottom or tear falls.
Right, it's not even worth cliffing this or anything, it's just like, okay Betboom, you
take these buildings, fine.
Watch the waves.
Get into this radiant base.
Vax has been allowed to naturally respawn, they walk through the minefield, he's about
in the core of his health there, Kiritich, he's left into stolen raw, Miera jumps in,
the character might damage, they've dunked down the first life of Chess, taunting his
Beastmaster as well as he pops the Lincoln's back on the GB, he's falling to the damage
output of Rizzy Q, Kiritich's parrying, jumping to the tree line, trying to grip back as GBK
goes in aggressively plays on a terrible late and falls.
Bet boom!
Over extending big time save a double kill handed over to Rincey Q as Nick McAlexia gifted
another fight.
This terrible late is going hand no one's touching him.
I'm sure it's just allowed to get a snipe on the way out and I did lose this pango for
a good two minutes now but Bet Boom just threw everything at the wall to see what could stick.
They cannot land on this evil.
Once our institute is being protected by all the notices, the linkins, another stolen order.
The orders roar!
Then we saw a double roar from Rubik's Zero from Beastmaster, an absolute disaster of a high ground push.
That boom just crumbling with a 40k lead, now down to 36.
And yet, it does not feel great for them.
What's a dieback for Nuke?
So again, the economy here for Enigma getting decimated.
The fight's going pretty well.
Well, does Kez only win this fight?
I don't think he's dead here.
What if Omar just turns around and says,
Yoink?
Does he hear a lot of your spells?
He's stolen Rord.
He didn't work.
Oh, big, yeah.
How did he Rort the beginning of the Beastmaster?
Oh, he Rort the Kez.
The Kez walked higher than the tower.
He just got Rort.
He got lifted in and the lift stunned the beast who blinked in on the drop down.
just set up the easiest two-man call of devised life. So when March ruined their entire day there.
That was meant to be your clincher. You got the top lane of Barracks at least.
Bolton Lane stays defended. Rincecube, though, out in the open,
reflects the rollback with the Lotus help. Let's get your ward again.
The stuns are coming in and TPK arrives. The damage on Miro will look good,
But the Rnsq Terriblade is finally found.
Omar on the run out, the kiss is landing though, and Kat Ernie can give chase.
He notices himself, trying to lift into the pit.
It's a pain damage too much this time, it's GH.
Oh, they're falling apart.
Way harder to take these fights outside on the map when you get caught in the jungle.
Look at the damage on this Terriblade from the snap.
Annihilated him.
3700.
That is ridiculous.
It starts to win the majority of its physical damage.
Oh, it's 3,000.
Can't deal with this hero in the Ultra-Lated.
He gets multiple spells off.
We just sit there and shredder you.
Now it's time to poke my backs.
We'll go again.
Round three on this high ground.
That was a terrible buy.
Hangar roll.
TBY.
Yeah, everyone.
Triple.
Divide, blink calls.
Nightmare save on GBK.
The damage, though.
Snapfire just appears!
And now Kiritich had to BKB defensively deal with his pango
who's been gripped up with a Terrablade.
He's the problem! You cannot handle Rinseq!
BKB and Lincoln's protected by everyone.
Another divide jumped there, causing onto Kes.
They put a glimmer and a save,
but the lift up drags this Kes back into Rinseq.
That's melee range though, not what a Terrablade wants to be,
so as softwarey as they fall back and try and deal with Kiritich,
the Kes thunder and dead!
God for a hundred seconds and BAM BOOM!
One more time! Throwing it all away!
What is this game?
It's out of the toilet!
D-
I'm dirt-giving them these high ground bushes!
And they're just not setting them up well. That's a part of it.
The other part is, God damn, this Terribleid is doing WORKING this game.
And Nygma are playing really well around it.
They are protecting him with all the-
The Lotus Orbs, the Lincoln, it's very hard to throw disabling in.
Some sick calls from Dubai.
Sick plays from Omar with these lift-stolen spells.
just setting the control for this terrible to go to town.
Why the heck am I playing with Sphere of Respect?
Like, it really is hard to be real.
Again, just hitting high ground with Kez, it lets his roll go in,
your GBK snap bar gets called, he kills himself off the plane,
he hit him twice with the 1,400 damage off the plane, now we're like,
he's just gone.
Then I sold out the Gearsix to try and do something.
Again, he'd kill Panyko, that's another dieback, great!
You're just not winning the fight.
It feels as if there should be a way simpler way to do this, with a 40,000 and more sleep.
What's GPK tipping Kyrgyz from the middle of the fight?
Oh, you're winning this fight, good job.
No, you're not winning this fight.
No!
Untip him.
Well then, after that, this is both a fault of easy takings on the enemy guys who are
up your high ground now.
They're down 27k.
Another Lotus Role.
You can't just dead.
They're rolling again!
Oh, the beast master!
Fall into armor!
Oh my! Just stop! Stop worrying people! I don't know! What?
Oh, we could stop buying back on Bat Boom now!
Noob goes and recovers the gem.
If they lose this game, this has to be one of the biggest throws of all time.
And one of the biggest comebacks of all time.
Talk about the resilience here. We were discussing mental fortitude, and why it's good to practice it.
Little did we know. Point proven?
This is THE game to showcase why.
Why this is why it doesn't have a surrender button?
100% I mean they worked out to 93% win probability here?
I think it was probably even higher than that.
Basically nothing other than roar after roar, damage output from TB,
chance gone for 100, a mega kill streak at a rate like you.
She has no buy on Kessie. He does not.
And now you're in a situation like, who splish-bushes, who cuts blades, how do we get out on the map?
Noob says, nah, nobody actually, I'm chasing you to the ends of the earth.
I'm surprised they're chasing us, it's just running down mid.
The only thing is they don't know that Kes doesn't have body, you have to assume he has it.
Technically I think you can end the game here, but almost, I guess you still have Kes by, still 2Bs faster lives?
And Sam's thing?
Well, that's right, this is how you play Terriblade, buddy.
Hell yeah, this is.
So Vintage, carried performance right here.
All prompts to Omar, these stolen roars have thrown the game.
You are not in this position without stolen Primal Roar.
Annihilating the spend of Quarters.
They'll lead down to 15k.
meaningless. They still don't get a lane of barracks, but there's a lot more hope now
in the Nigga McGarancy camp. Now that graph is coming all the way back up. Now they get
to stand in the enemy ancients, play through two lanes, give Beppu a taste of their own
medicine. No more holding this roar. Another couple of minutes, he's got it for a couple
minutes right halfway through the duration of that spell steal and grab another spell as well if
you can find one he's got a lot of time to play with if he gets raw and griff man
man it's danger time for bet boom they are now all five alive though beast and snap with buyback
so i guess we're looking at situation here where miro has buyback boots of travel
he's got to go in and do something and not give away wool which is very difficult
Because he's playing into so many Lotus, a lot of the time he's getting reflected forward and it just gives Omar so much time to sit there and feel his spell.
He has to be a lot more patient, a lot more discerning, but that is an erosion of being the galaxy here at the almost 60 minibar.
So if you could age us to the new pango with no buy, interesting decision here to give it to pango over the terribly.
terribly terribly needs to buy another slot all the way to find that all the
found the axe in the back he's got buy back
that boom what what do they spend BKB grip was the big one with local down
smoke and in the guys he's still wanting to play around this area though in
knowing the bad boom were on that left-hand side of the map they're
trying to get up to high ground.
Burma, start on the kez.
Another aura, heritage!
Dead or be dead!
Beastmaster's gone!
What?
Betboom!
What is happening?
Nick McGalaxia just clapping down with vengeance!
Range backs, this appears.
Rizzy Q's still gonna step back.
They don't know this kez.
Hard to buy back, they have to come and defend their base.
They want to push out all the lanes
This is absolutely wild
Insane stuff from nigma galaxy did even still be in this game let alone perhaps favored right now
They lost acts in the river and then get gained a beast master by and now they're fighting another war connection on TPK
Say goodbye make the madness stop Gary. This is out of control
at this point you would have been better off at any point in this game just sitting in your fountain for four minutes waiting out this stolen roar cool down going in another fight and never roaring anybody again
and you might have won
but now you live in Omarland where he is peace master
then you must sit and watch as the lead is now down to 6k
judge jury and executioner
He's going to pick your crime and your punishment!
He is judging you for your sins right now.
We do get some tier 5 neutral items though.
Is this something that can recover that room's game now?
A mental miracle?
That's the real thing.
Your mentality is destroyed.
There's no way you're sticking to this game thinking about anything other than what the
hell is happening.
Is that two divine regalias then?
One on the cares in the snap?
Is that a mental miracle for them?
You can definitely look for the audacious Digi and type items here, soft book of the dead on the Beastmaster, extra summons, sure.
Oh, leech-footed book of the dead on Rynstik here. Probably didn't have great options, I'm assuming.
Trying to get a whole lot of push.
Catch this high ground again.
Make the galaxy on the adult span.
There's a Wind Waker for Kava though, that's huge because the stolen roars have been ruining their day.
So now at least you have something against it.
Finally we're safe.
That's Fidgen for that snap.
Kez still doesn't have his.
That's big.
There's a lot of damage evolved as well on a universal hero, so...
He is hitting...
Weisshorn!
Timeless Fidgen Bloodright Axe.
These calls have been pretty impactful the past few minutes.
That's 25 talent. Pretty big AoE.
The fact this game has even gone to a minute and 30 seconds in itself.
It felt over. It wasn't.
Minut 20, 25 even?
Game of the day is never over till the throne falls.
That's the lesson of this one. But goddamn.
Or until Armacul, GG.
Not sure.
And this time, Niggah Galaxy up against Charitage on his kens.
He's not tapping out.
They also have a win waker.
She's got to win.
These win wakers could be super pivotal.
Skims are falling down the road, and yeah, I was looking to block a cheese too.
Crumptious.
This thing's not that strong anymore.
It's still something.
Five books.
Look at that.
Niggah Galaxy going to the library, studying up.
My polythera.
Do you go alliterate here as we go into the late game?
They've learned the deep dark magic of holding high ground.
It's true.
Written in the tomes.
Still can't finish off the late appearance though.
They've not figured out how to crush the foundations of a building.
Double-staging desolate run, bad boom. One for snap, one for cares.
Maybe they figured it out.
They went to the library, they studied.
The tomb of Kurok?
Yeah.
They said, what is League of Galatians biggest problem?
They throw games.
Well, you can't throw the game if you're just always behind.
They put themselves in a 40K hole.
They went into the depths of the Vatican.
They found the crumbled ashes of the library of the Lags
Astral, found the secrets of what it's doing.
If you put yourself so far behind that even after you're
winning for 30 minutes, you're still behind,
how can you throw that game?
It's impossible.
They're still down.
2K.
They're gonna have all their buybacks up, only 3 minutes on the clock for this axe
buy.
So...
They might be favored at this point.
I think so, momentum, morale, whatever you want to call it.
Yeah, that part, they're definitely favored.
Gameplay wise, it's hard to tell because...
Like flow state wise, they're there.
They did roll double stinging on this Kez plus snap, which is pretty disgusting.
You know your tearblade got definitely the worst option here with the book of the dead
Feel a little bad for N.C.Q
Maybe get a re-roll though. This game could go the distance
It's got 9000 gold too. I already ate that moonshark
Choose the moonshark that is. A refresher bane perhaps the answer is more old
So now it's patience. Is that the virtue we're looking at?
I don't know if there's any virtue left in this game.
This has been a down and dirty brawl right here.
It's right to their level.
That's why someone like G.H. is valuable, because you know he always has a positive
mind.
He's got hope.
Exactly.
Don't worry guys, we can do it.
And at some point you start believing.
That's the thing, right?
Maybe we can do it.
with personal progression you know going to the gym whatever changing your
diets or the little steps you can't just overnight decide to change your life
it's all one little thing one roar at a time
yeah I tear with now we're doing so bad god damn
I just take one more axe call one more stolen roar if you get your hands on it
currently Omar sitting on nothing he's gonna have to go into the next bite
without any spells up his sleeve. So it'll be a big factor here what can he
steal early on if you try and even not throw out these ults early if you're
pet boom to give it away try and prioritize this rubik you know grip the
rubik or more the rubik
by the time divine rapiers could also be huge I it's not really a great divine
rapier game for nigma they only have to terribly does a carrier and it's
overspotted yeah she's just not generally the best divine rapier user
he's not a my doos or something I'd say snap is the best he actually has the
split shot plus the crits and the stigian so this divine for GPK that he's kind
of high would absolutely go hard yeah still have the treads think about rapier
Swift Blink. Got a bit of room to grow still.
Just you're hemmed back in your base right now. Curious to just try to open the map a
little bit with an angle to that left-hand side, but it's a little spooky.
Playing into darkness. It doesn't even fire the shield from top either.
So we're now approaching another Roshan. 40 seconds away and probably belongs to
You can make the galaxy, but imagine the Bat-Boom would contest it.
And here it comes.
The demon edge is locked, but the Divine Rapier hits Delivered.
The Tread's swapped out.
Let's see how much this does in the fight, especially if he gets Chalker Magic.
Could end up with two little shredders going off considerably fast.
Just annihilate heroes.
Could also kill himself on the axe blade meal.
Oh, I was gonna say, is it time for techies and ribbick to buy Blade Mass as well?
Potentially, he can't beat a beat though.
Someone sent into the mines.
Had some decent mine clear right there.
They yearn to clear the explosives.
Nigga Garg's got low ground.
Rinse and Q, tear a wave out for the short duration metamorphosis.
M-Miero!
So it's done!
Crap!
I was just walking through mines, was it?
Got tear-waved into him.
Clipped on the edge.
It's an hour before the damage from Top of Kiritage.
He's found a vibe.
The axe, Cyclone, noob comes in with a rolling thunder.
The can is from a parry and BKB through the first onslaught,
but he's been stunned up, and the terror blade can open up.
Another Cyclone sends him skywards,
but noob is broken free of the grip, and Kess is fallen.
Nygma Galaxy running forward with this one for the terror blade.
Another grip, no stains for him.
Down he goes, and Biobax Galore start coming out now.
The terror blade might have to spend his,
Because NigmaGalaxy stuck on the side of the map, G8 being nullified and lost.
They just didn't get the connections they were looking for, a really nice sweep save from Katayomi.
And now a roll onto the axe, a rolling thunder onto Miero.
Katayomi trying to save this Beastmaster with save himself, another Cyclone.
Gets Miero a bit of distance away, and a Lash on TPK to arrive, and nearly shreds for a noob.
Full retreat time though, because Terribley cannot join this fight, he's way too far away.
Didn't have TP couldn't get back there. So even though you have to run to Dubai
Can't take the fight with it and extremely cost the exchange pretty good. I'll see they fall back down to 20k deficit with the quad buyback
unable to push through
Just no real solid connections no real good spell steals. That's the big difference, right? There's no roars being turned around
There's no hero being controlled in front of terribly for long enough that he's able to break them down
And this vampire is doing an insane amount of damage if he's just left alone
I damage leader of that fight and imagine if that boom can go find that double damage top
That's a juicy one. That is a juicy one.
They won't see it just here and so they'll just switch as well.
Roshan timed up. He's gonna migrate to his summer home.
Big advantage for that boom just in terms of the buybacks they get to throw some heroes in there.
Create some space, it's going to have to be some crazy vines from the pie on these axe
calls to push them over the edge here.
Do a second round of the tier 5s though, if you want to spend time to farm those up you
could.
It takes a while though.
Well that time you're spending kill in jungle camps, but then there's time you're not spending pushing lanes.
True. I do think the real, potentially valuable here for Enigma a little bit more, because that boom did get that double stitching.
I don't think GPK is too worried about what he's sitting on right now. Got the arcane blink finish, level 30.
He is kitted.
That's he being used by a team of low mags, though.
That was the one-ster Blink forward of that smog that found the rubik.
Here it is, comes in and blasts down Omar!
Does that buy? It's the one hero that has buy.
Katom, he's still hunting. Look at him. The bane smoked up.
I like this.
He's moving forward and he's in behind. You'll have to buy.
He's Blink forward with the call.
He's wide open in this mid lane now, but Katom doesn't want to go for the act.
for the axe.
I didn't want to grip them there.
Instead, Rincekue makes the jump.
It could be exposed, but Batmume, I feel like they're fearful now.
They're playing tentative.
I guess with Wind Waker, these solo grips aren't that impactful.
Figure prizes to be had for a shot.
Oh, Divan!
Oh, we got three!
He does drag them back in towards the Terra Blade.
I've got Rincekue laying the damage in on Tamiero.
Ah this Beastmaster's gone! Two minutes!
As by back!
Everyone just bailed.
You know, leave the banner on the pit.
What is none of that?
Let's go back and defend that bottom lane.
You have to be wary about this call radius.
It's so big with the talent plus the book.
Basically half a screen.
Crack level 30 on a bunch of these heroes now.
Keeper of the light!
He's got everything!
I don't know if I've ever seen a little 30 keeper of the light.
It's kind of absurd.
Oh, that's crazy.
Look at his strong dispel.
And lunatics.
Bad, uh...
Bad longer.
Oh, he's got grip, huh?
Okay.
That's a pretty good one.
Axes are also super nice on this hero.
You might keep these.
You get roar, you take roar, but...
This is a very nice kit to have right now with the cast range.
This guy does it.
He's gonna keep riding the ship.
I wonder how much debuff duration he has right now.
What does that say?
It does.
20%?
That's pretty juicy.
One extra second this time?
The long ass grip.
I mean, check that on Kez.
Potential for the TB, just to shred him.
Oh, amusing watching the Terrablade play his little minigame of item slots.
He's got bloodthorn side advice.
Daedalus disperse the Satanic in backpack.
Terrablade has too many items.
Suffering from success.
And now we see the reset of the tier 5 neutrals.
If you're really good here, you can blink BKB hex somebody, and then slot in two of your damage items for BKB effects.
It's great.
It's kind of what you're trying to do with this nine slot. See if you can pull it off in the fight. That's a whole other question.
There's a lot to do.
A lot of moving parts.
You're still playing it as ages cans for two and a half minutes.
That's the thing though, it's better if I'm gonna push with it.
That is where the game has gone horribly wrong for them, repeatedly here.
I don't think you can afford NOT to push with it, especially when you don't make my path-
No buybacks right now!
It's a two-minute minimum cooldown across the board, you gotta do something.
TB gets the Desolator of his own.
Fleet Foot is Stygian.
That's the value re-roll there.
Gets away from that Book of the Dead long last.
Super value.
Enough reading.
I've done reading. I've learned everything I could ever possibly learn. I studied the blade. Now, I will use the blade.
I just keep coming back to defend this bottom lane. Yeah, this is looking at the dead plus PB illusions, getting a bit annoying.
Again, I'm not sure why you don't want to be pushing and trying to end this game right now if you're bit moving.
Kez not having buy to me is not a being a factor to let five buyback potentially come up
Especially when he has an ages anyway
What I always ask in these situations is
Are you afraid to end the game or is there
Something that's gonna change to make the opportunity better in the future
If there's something better in the future, it's okay to wait. If you're just afraid.
Well, is this an irrational fear of high ground?
Because I feel like Bethlehem have a pretty founded, well-founded fear going up here against the New Magalaxy of their own making.
Not high groundophobia.
Whose fault is that, kid?
I'm not sure. Why does that thing have a carriage hitch probably?
Poor little kid.
You gotta go, man.
Thirty- you gotta go!
What's happening?
It's too many mines.
They put the fear of God into us.
G.H. just blasting off into you.
Killing off these little minions.
Boom.
Set themselves up for this high ground push,
and then put Kiritich on the front lines.
That's divide.
Interesting. Not too sure.
The kisses will come in, and the rest of them out
while Kiritich finishes the tier three.
So let's grip. Keep that in mind.
Gryptus Cas, if you want to.
Good for another play.
Nightmare.
Jump in.
The call.
The catch.
As the wind waker saves.
Powering in.
Jump away to the tree line.
Sithri's dead and mirrors it off.
The creepy disappear.
He's got a fly back.
Who did that damage?
It's all that fire, baby.
Mentevi now trying to blade mail back with the protector of the snap.
With the force, the glimmer, the yuls into the sky.
With the grip now stolen and Mark can't get a job done.
I can't get a job done as GBK with a triple kill.
I finally got this one now locked in place.
Loaded barrel of the snapfire blowing up into the base.
GBK gets the tip.
There's an enemy galaxy of two heroes left standing to try and hold onto this,
but it's all done.
77 minutes of madness.
I was about to say, look at this teamfight recap.
We never got to it.
He dealt around 13,000 damage in those first two volleys.
And then he had another one at the end, probably put him up to 15 or 16,000 as he deleted the throne.
At the same time, late game, Snapfire is quite a sight to behold.
He will end this game 19-5 in 38.
That was GPK 1v9, truly, at some point.
Come on, guys, let's do this. Try and finish it off.
I mean, they can smile now, right when the game's over.
Have a bit of a chuckle about things.
Yeah.
Have a stretch getting rolled at 20 times as you did.
That's one of those games where you come in as this blue coach here, and it's just like...
Well, we'll talk about high ground later, guys.
For now, let's just play the rest of the series, because there's nothing else I would take away from this game,
other than, my god, those high ground attempts were complete dog shit.
Uh...
Also, props to Newt McGillis.
Resilience?
Yes.
Fortitude, mental fortitude.
I almost think their mentality was better that game, for a large chunk, despite being downed so much gold.
When did they found angles with an avid use with an impregnable base beautiful stuff. Beppu they take that game one though
This mirror, I don't know. I love this team and I hate this team at the same time. I'm talking about me
I love their players, but watching them is I
Think this is probably what all their fans feeling. It's heartbreaking
It's not for the weak of heart. No, you have they develop strong hearts
if you're a fan of this team because there's good things then there's bad
things then the bias top network then he's bottom network then they're down
40k you're like guys please call it just go next but then they make a comeback
and then I don't know entertainment also that is for sure that game honestly
went on for way longer than I thought that it would yeah I thought it was
cooked at like 23 right like the first defense that happens you think to
yourself okay great cool I think even in the greenery is that something like
all right more of those and then they got another and they got another and
another and then like and then you think they have it again but then they don't
and it's just even then like looking at bed boom it's like okay so you think
okay they got it but then it's like they get sucked into I don't know what it is
Because then they throw like eight to nine times in a row whether it's them throwing or the nigma magic
Which one is it? I mean I?
Think it's a bit of both like that's him definitely kind of dropped the ball
But you can also argue that nigma dead
Because at the start of that game like they had really strong sides
They asked was top net worth terribly good and kills on this and he was top like not top
but he was hiring out within the base room, and then there were these really strange fights
after the late stage where it felt like someone was going in on magma, someone was following up
five seconds later, like falls were weird, like so you knew that in a sense they gave
Beckman a lead, but then Beckman also just did really good things, and in late game Dota
it does feel bad to think one team through, right, because it's so hard, but it did really
It really looked like that.
Yeah, cause in late game I get like late game is weird and it's random and there's all these
neutral items and this but this like minute 20 to 50 holy shit like if I'm watching this
game I mean even now like let's say you're coaching this team and you're coming in like
the minute 20 to 50 mark is kind of cooked like you can't talk much about it other than
okay guys don't fight man like this or maybe you know that right now you need to play more
around this and make this but you also need to like choose your battles pretty wisely
because the game was 70 minutes long,
you need to choose like the five minutes to talk about.
But even then, you feel like that's not enough.
There's so many like small things that happened
that this time in the break that you had is not enough.
Yeah, I guess the easiest thing to talk about in that game,
I think the easiest thing for Nigma to talk about,
and then we can discuss, we can discuss about them as well,
because I don't want it to be a one-sided conversation.
But for them, it's what did we do with our axe net worth?
How did we take these weird fights?
How are we just going in without any back up?
And what can we do to make it more cohesive?
Whereas for Bed Boom, the question is,
how did we mess up high ground so many times?
You have like a 45K lead and ages.
Like, if you run a simulation of like,
you need to break high ground 100 out of 100 times,
this is the map that you give them.
Right.
And they somehow messed it up every single time.
Yeah, I mean, again, it's really tough,
but GPK on the snapfire, he was cooking.
They played around the year's Eastmaster very well too, like the Helms on Eastmaster.
It is a very interesting matchup when it comes to Terribleid,
because it feels like Terribleid can get kills only, but once those creeps start pushing,
and one or two fight go wrong, what do you do really?
But after that, I felt like we were in some weird Twilight Zone.
Is this Thota? What's going on?
And even the ending, Kazua, was like, what happened? Is it just over?
It's like every time you look it's like some new bizarre moment happened at some point even you had top net worth of TV
Then the next five people from bed boom and then the next four people from nigma
This is like a net worth chart that first of all you don't see very often
And I think to go back to like maybe the mid game of like the vice specifically because I think it matters a lot
You were also saying you like their draft
I think they could have done a lot more with what they had but at some point you need to learn when you need to like value
your own game I think maybe something similar happened to noob like his
network was really low sure he lost his lane but I think he moved around too much
like at some point you need to be able to tell your team no we can't fight I
need my BKB I need my blink I need this instead of like oh if we five man it's
great like sometimes need to put vibes aside and worry about well you need to
think clearly what do we need to play because they did not do that I feel like
they played into it it's like ganking yourself taking a bad fight when you
know you're behind. Why do you do it? Don't do it to me, please.
That's a great point. It does feel like that's an issue with this team. These odd fights
that they take, they are very much a run at you kind of team. And I will say honestly
watching that game, it was really entertaining, but that boom did look like the better team.
The more disciplined team in those first 30 minutes of the game. And it's just, again,
It's really impressive the game got to the point that it did, but there's a lot of working
on fundamentals that used to be done on one side and just working on not messing up high
ground on the other side.
And it does feel like one is easier to fix than the other.
I think also when I'm looking at this game, I would speak to these players about buybacks.
I think Kuretich died like three or four times from minute 50 to 65 without buyback.
Maybe against a different team you can lose there or even in the first place is why you
lose rags.
And then at the end, Rince Q, I don't know if he had a rapier or what it was, but then
he dies and he didn't have money.
It's not that he was on cooldown, he didn't have money for buyback.
These things, they're like, it's illegal stuff that you cannot let happen.
It's not okay.
Yeah, I mean, he got the buyback back, like, it was like five seconds or something on his
last death for it to come back on cooldown, but he didn't have gold.
It could have been one of the things where they thought they had it.
Yeah.
You just think you have it after playing like this golf looks crazy. I mean, I feel like that
Making us like try focus. How can I focus when some guy comes over and puts his blood in my face?
That's true. That's literally what happened. That's very true. I mean you could argue snapfire
He put his blood in their faces for a good portion of that game
I do think that was a really great showing of
of snapfire as a hero and when it looks really strong though like all the throws aside all the
late game chaos aside on lane versus pango it seems to shut him down very effectively
the late game scaling build is really nice in both ways where you get a lot of right click damage
but also the extra mortar mirrors kisses i love that talent the beast master roar into that level
25 snap talent like the burst damage goes crazy now it's definitely a hero that now that we've seen
it more. I like it. I mean even at the start I did kind of like it but it didn't look so good
and I think people have found the different builds that you also talk about now and then
when you get higher level it's just nice that you can scale like this but it's also another thing
for like Nigma when I look at this because this is what BedBoom showed yesterday, the same matchup.
I think Nuke did okay considering the matchup but it's still probably not really what you want to
give them I think overall. Yeah I mean I can see it working out in terms of having a hero
That's ready to fight regardless of the bad lane, but I does think it depends on the side lanes
That yeah had a really good start to deliver in the case so in this game
It was actually was cooking on that lane. He was top net worth so
The difference between one or two bad calls could be what brings pango back into the game versus what makes him fall back even further
So it does seem like there's a bit of a communication error in that 10 to 20 unit margin
I agree and that's the most glaring issue that they have
I mean, it's like this and how they play the map, but playing the map, it's difficult.
Overall, this just takes time.
I think how you help yourselves to...
Everyone taking a bit more initiative, but also responsibility of their own game.
I think it's a good starting step.
And I hope that they can do that and show it to us.
They're proud of me for being able to talk with a straight face.
Words that the trees were feeling
When the morning comes
Send me my words while I'm dreaming
But they'll hear me in my life
Blue, blue skies when I'm singing
The one and only love
And I can't believe that I'm feeling my love
Rashed in the throwings, calling
Cause I'm whole, and it's you
Needless to say I'm a fire
And you don't have a clue
Snare your hands on my dreamy
But the way you make me laugh
Look through the skies when I'm singing
The one I want to love
Hold me till the morning is in, hold me till I'm bone
Hold me not to fall over, don't let me go, don't let me go
Hold me till I'm on it, hold me till I'm on it
Hold me until I'm on it, don't let me go, don't let me go, don't let me go
Don't let me go
Oh
California dreaming waiting on feeling
That I need all the food
Everything I'm missing
Every minute distance
It's just me
Oh, oh, oh, wait
Don't run away
No way
Can't let me stay
No I
I'm gonna say that I used to take me to where I am
Let us go, we can live that love
Baby, it's simple, it holds my mind
Let's break the beat up, give it all
Be the mind and not be trapped in the streets of China
Oh, oh, oh, wait, don't wanna wait
Don't wait, can't make me stay
No, I'm, I'm gonna fight
That place, take me away
Let's go, we can live that life, baby
It's simple, it blows my mind
Let's take the beats off
Leave it all behind in the middle of each other
In the sweet sunshine
In the sweet sunshine we'll sing
In the sweet sunshine
I don't wanna, wanna wait
They're not gonna make me stay
I don't wanna walk no way
They're not gonna make me stay
Let's go, we can live another week
Temple, the books were mine
We talk, leave it all behind
And now we drop in the sweet sunshine
You know what they say is a good motivational trick is when you fall off the horse you get right back up on it.
And hopefully, Nick McGalaxy take that lesson to heart.
Because despite a loss like that, they should not feel discouraged.
One would argue that they were not even supposed to be in the game for that long in the first place.
Absolutely.
about it this is actually a llama this is the llama that divide blues and ever
since he lost llama he's much slower like reaction time all across the map
doesn't have that move speed anymore then let's do it he's not a mounted unit
anymore yeah Shen you know I need to see how that game stop looking at your
I was gonna say 13 but it was 18 yeah increase that 18 or is it sweet 17 sweet
17 homecoming 18. I'm not sure. Yeah, there we go. I don't wait it's on spot
Yes, especially on acts that is not the kind of stat line you want to get but we'll see what they were going to change up because so far
The first phase is showing a lot of what we had last game
Nigma not deterred to go back to the pango and that boom team liked their first phase solution with the beast master
I mean panga is just good like even when he gets countered on lane
We see him going to these side lanes setting up for fights regardless of the situation that he's in
But some counters should be respected. Absolutely snap fire
I think GPK it's not like they could have ended this game 30 minutes in
He was beyond Godlike didn't die a single time in that game at that point and then
Bye back into die back
But still I think you got to respect this
It's just way too much damage
Once your point blank like right on top of the hero extra 35% of the damage
She was also using blood grenade in the previous one because if you're close enough it deals extra bit of a damage
Definitely starts to add up have that extra kill potential
Which takes some of the kill potential from your side lanes because you need definitely new blood grenades
So this is pretty much the same draft get back to you back to me. Yeah, because I mean I don't want to see
he then have slap fire again because I think that bedroom even if you don't want to play
admit you can just flex it for now because what Nick must should be doing is to play
with the idea of the vibe playing pangol his pangol is good like his pangol is legit it
doesn't necessarily have to be noob overall you know that places matchup but I like that
Nick also swapped up at least something I don't know if they also banned Wyvern last
game in the second phase that it was Huskar Wyvern okay so at least this time like Huskar
kind of whatever obviously GPK can't play it but this is not one of his best you
can always flex the pango you know it's way better to just ban off who was one of
the OG mid snapfire players no yeah he should know what's up
but he's noob so he doesn't know so my question to you guys is don't you think
that regardless of that lane they had a chance to play that early game much better
I mean they started 5-0, it looked very good and they just kind of crumbled in the classic
negma fashion, something that we are seeing every single time acts on top of the network.
Suddenly he doesn't finish off his BKB, he's choosing the wrong fights like in some of
these early engagements, he goes in, there's no real follow up, your pango is getting ripped
from really far away and nobody else is dealing damage.
Maybe a bare lead is that we're just gonna not make the mistakes that we did last time
and we don't mind the heroes that we were given because we actually kind of like their side.
I mean if the Vibe would play Axe like Seb, they can win this game.
Maybe you'd play it again?
No, but for real, he literally griefs his own game.
He just needs to play like a Valakia heroic-winning Divi-Law.
There you go, play like your old self.
Play like your old self.
He's got it in him.
And I'll defend him and say that a lot of the high ground defenses were on the back of his Axe close.
True, but imagine how good those would have been
It's the past 30 minutes, we're good.
Don't look at the past, Kessie. Look for the future.
It's true.
The future, such as how in the past Nub did play Sapphire,
but in the future, he may also now be playing Sapphire.
Because yes, the Divai Lama Pango could be flexed.
We don't know where the Sapphire is going.
Previously, Bet Boom Team, or previously, Nigma did pick Rubik here.
What am I looking at?
What is that?
To me, it seems like it's very likely this snap is a support,
but if we end up seeing the mid laner from Bet Boom Team Melee,
It's fine
It's one one rat
I don't know it's an electric tear
I'm just getting distracted today
First bloods in my face. No kind of pictures
Seriously, Casio with the last day of group stage high breakers are on the line depending on how these teams perform
You're right Neil, you're right Neil.
Now, you know, I'll set that back up. I'll lock back in.
Lock in, because we got a mortar locked in as well as a tusk.
That's the Kes replacement, and that boom team decided to swap out the bane,
because that was their tried-and-two-true-tested solution against the pango, but they swapped it up.
I like it. They're doing this. They picked this mortar plus tusk here because they don't want to pick something like a bane,
because they don't want to give away where the coddle is going,
going because they're respecting the fact that noob can play this mapfire mid and if
he don't do that you want to be able to throw the caudal mid vs the snapfire. So if they
had picked something like vain here they wouldn't have the option to do that. That doesn't mean
it's going to be a caudal mid.
They actually can't do good flex yet.
I do like Mertah a lot though. I just feel like in the right hands then Kiritich is definitely
one of those players who plays her exceptionally well. She is such a good answer to Pingu.
You need Keeper of the Light to summon his old ability, Mana Leak, against Medusa.
That'd be awesome. Not in the game for 15 years.
That was one of the most annoying abilities, like, ever.
Anything that is mana burn related seems to be super annoying, but...
This Medusa, in terms of heroes that they... Beastmaster is very good against Medusa early on.
He can definitely try to push out.
I think I've seen Beto during Valakia. I think they were the ones actually playing against Medusa and they managed to kick her out.
I believe Stave was playing Windranger and they managed to destroy that plane.
And if Stave is going to be playing Kotal or Murta in this one, I think they have the same idea, same architect as the hero that can actually pressure Medusa quite a lot.
I think it depends a lot on how your sub can deal with Boars, which Techies is okay.
Like, I want to see what, you know, what the support, like, matchup does end up being in this bottom lane.
And I think also you want to make sure, like, the Medusa still needs to be answered.
Like, overall, like, for Bedboom, outside of some laning stuff, their draft is not well-equipped at dealing with the Sphero.
Sure, maybe you can bring some Taz with a tag team, but outside of kiting her at the moment, they don't have any, like, good or clear answers.
You know, there's no Invoker, no big mana burn, no, like, instant defusal buyer with Manta. You don't have any of those.
For sure, this hero is a problem. You either dive her time after time on that lane, or you just have to pick your anti-mage type here.
Which you mentioned the Invoker. If we turn Caudal into a support, GPK Invoker can easily slot in.
Definitely could be one of the, you know, the matchups that they can look for later.
I'm surprised they still opted to ban Huskar, when the Medusa problem still needs to be urgently solved.
So they might, I mean they might just think that they want to put either the pango or
a new melee guy into the mid lane and it would grief their draft too hard if they lose the
mid tempo, which I can see because you still want Medusa to, you want her to be able to
hold her area and a lot of the times you need people to back her up.
There's a hero that he didn't play yet, I think this needs to be a playmaker hero, Ember
spirit from the mid lane I think could work it gives you the magic damage I
just feel like they need something else because this Morta she's very good
against Medusa she's very good against Pangolot in terms of carry to carry
matchup she doesn't like to play into snapfire so I'm thinking the one-two combo
deck is as old as a good amount of magic damage there is a little bit of a save
coming out from snowball but other than that she is very like easily killed by
any of the spell damage as we've seen in the team liquid against Fulton series
where they picked the Viper and just completely decimated it.
If it wasn't Medusa, I would suggest potentially that it could be a good Viper game,
but it might be a bit too slow.
Yeah.
Well, this is where Negama are finally showing where their snuff is going,
and what they will be able to respond.
Because I do think Mid-Cautal, we haven't seen a lot of this tournament.
I believe Niku played it for a long time,
but it is a hero that can easily outpace Medusa,
Medusa. Even if it's like not a traditional solution to her, Caudal just running at her
lane over and over again with the overwhelming magic damage at the start could be enough.
Okay, so the goal of this Tentar, which I think is quite good. It's the type of hero
you want against Muerta, right? You and everyone else can get on top of her with ult, you buy
blade mail. You also help Medusa who's a very, you know, natural slow hero.
Mm-hmm.
And it does make it a support snap pango mid.
Now you're happy to flex your coddle back to 4 if you want.
So then what GPK hero can solve the Medusa problem the most?
When you mentioned the Invoker, is Monkey King banned by Hero of the Diffusal Blade?
Yeah, Monkey King is banned.
Can you do like a mid-windranger or something?
It's a bit wonky, I think.
Hmm, let me see.
There was a spice to it when it came to Mines.
You also don't really need to address it if you're playing on Beastmaster's tempo,
and you just play to win your lane and just run out Medusa and end the game around minute 30.
So maybe a pusher?
An objective taker coming out of mid?
I mean, you can do that. The only problem is you would need someone who has tempo, but also stops the pango a little bit.
Because when you make a move, the pango should obviously come to also make his own move there.
But I think with Void Spirit, it's a hero that can go in and out, and you play your own type of fights, which is nice.
They don't have any instant lockdown. Even Blink who's stomped, you can kind of play around.
Let's see.
They're choosing tempo over outright countering the DUSA, which, if you look at last game,
they did manage to bring that tempo very fast with their V-Suster.
If they can play that high ground a little more cleanly,
which they're still going to be playing against really great high ground heroes,
right? You've got Techies, Pango, Snap. If they play it cleanly, then you don't have to worry about it.
I think they upgraded the draft outside of NiGla Galaxy, I think, even though the last game
was a 70 minute game, you can't really talk about the draft, but you could see some of the issues
that they did have in the mid-game, also on top of the missed execution.
But I think this type of a draft, and I think the Vy'Lama, is gonna have an easier time.
Maybe not so much in the lane, but throughout the whole game,
his purpose is gonna be much easier to execute as well.
And I think they pick the heroes that can also scale.
Like, we might be seeing another, like, 50-60 minute game,
because you have Medusa, you have Teckys, and it seems like they're in the Galaxy.
They wanna stall it out as well.
So, I think it's quite a good Medusa game, inside of here we see all that often, I think
this is a game that to me should come down mainly to the gameplay, so I think if Nigma
can have a little bit of a better showing than they did in game 1, I think this game
is really anyone's taking, you know, whoever, if you can abuse your timings nicely, play
around it, BedBomb eventually should look to, I think, kite fights more rather than play
like straight into them, but I definitely see Nigma having a great chance in the game.
For sure, and for me, this game is about Void Spirit, what's he going to do for BedBomb?
how much tempo is he going to bring, how much is the caudal combination going to come into play,
and if they can choke them out. Because if not, we still haven't addressed the Medusa problem.
Which if this game were to replicate the previous game, and we go to 70 minutes,
then the Medusa problem snowballs way out of control than a terribly problem ever was, right?
I think it's like a big problem, like between minutes 30 to 50, but I think ultra late I
would give the edge again to like bad doom and like, boys were having like six slots and seven
and like just jumping and zooming around but between that I think this producer
could be like unstoppable if they might use it properly. It's a decision that
Beboum are making to instead go for tempo instead of solving this snake lay
let's see if it pays off as we get into a game number two with Gareth and SVC.
Game 2 here, and if we get up to taking on Betfum,
as we have a bit of a straighter game,
no more ups and downs, downs and back and forth.
One of those smack fires is Pangalir,
but Matt, game one, tons of them rising and falling,
especially from Betfum.
Every time they went up the staircase,
they fell into the grave.
We'll see if they're able to keep that tempo
going this time around.
It's true, one step forward, two steps back,
one throw forward, two throws back,
and we're straight back into game two,
where who's gonna throw this one next?
Nobody knows.
It's just that kind of series.
feel it in your bones Gary. It went for Medusa. Maybe part of it is how do you
throw Medusa? You get to that critical threshold and you just walk down a lane and the game ends.
What's her timing now? 25 minutes? 30? I still have to imagine Butterfly is your best timing on this
hero by Manta Butter. Yeah, we just haven't seen this hero too much in the newer patches.
So exactly what time that comes out and how it lines up with the newer Roshans and stuff is
is definitely gonna be a little harder to line up.
However, I do think it's quite a good juicing game.
I don't think that BOOM have any dark dancer
to the hero, they don't have any of the mana burn.
You know, no Nix, no anti-mage, no invoker,
nothing really insanely scary for a late game.
The Martha matchup, yeah, Martha can chunk anybody.
So you're not too afraid about it,
so don't gaze, create some space.
You are a pretty static hero,
except you have Stampede kinda help you out there,
so I actually kinda like Nameless Line of it.
It looks pretty solid.
To me, they can get the fights going a little better than last game.
It looks straightforward here.
I think the execution, at least the onus of execution, is absolutely all-bet-boo.
Looked.
The ceiling may be a little higher.
The floor is a lot lower.
If this line up falls flat, it's going to feel real flat.
Got a lot of resting on that voice bird, just coming out of the mid lane.
Try and get something done in those side lanes when he can.
GPK no longer will have to play the fun, snap-fire mid-hero, and just go ask people.
It's gonna play something with tons of buttons got stolen away from him in the draft. That was a huge component of it
And you'll have to play a normal mid hero unlucky for him
Cool flex though Nick Mcgalaxy bringing something back from the old quest days when noob and omai's to play this nap life and for sure
I was kind of expecting it to be support though
And I think if you were bep him in this draft you should have assumed it was support just
The value in that draft was stealing it away from a counter pick towards the pango right so I don't think they were too caught off guard or anything
but definitely annoying little wrench in the works at all wow damn right in there
all right this goes up to that creep wave blast the beast master but the bore okay
coupled with the help of the little pet will take him down in the trade
this first oh it's not first one they're running
oh this first one yeah this way i got an extra gold right
nice little bounty right there you can bring some extra regen or even main goes for the
the DUSA, whatever he wants to do with it. Good space for NCQ. Kind of bombs the performance
on that terribly. Just at some point, you're not dealing with Divine or AP or Snap-Ire.
You do get ultra outscaled there when it goes to 70 minutes, so just too far behind to hit
his prime window. Perhaps he can close it out on the DUSA this time around. Definitely
a lot of pressure on GPK here to match that performance and also bring some tempo to the
table with this carol voice of your appearing in that game one I don't know
you showed off the freaking power strength ratio of an ant lifting a hundred
times his body weight. That was incredible for it. Maybe this time we'll show it again with his Medusa.
I think so. I can't get GPK won that game twice for a bad point.
Nimmum. Omar and Devive on to this tough now. Double legend to stomp. Final touch from Omar
I guess they were killing this top lane.
I think the lanes are stronger too.
I think this off lane will win.
I think the juice is going to mainly free farm bottom until you eventually get kicked out, whatever.
And that's most heroes against beasts.
You either kill them three times or eventually get kicked out.
And I think mid is a lot better for you than the Sapphire matchup.
He's going pretty even.
Getting his regen burn a lot here.
Should be fine over the long term.
So I think I have a pretty solid lane setup as long as all things remain equal.
I might see Kata and me shift into another gear and head into mid.
Gonna try and find the pango pre-level stage or something.
Play exactly.
Hard to ease a marital on, especially against the high-kilter lane.
Staff Centaur is about as high-kilter as you can get.
This blast off into the Gorgon's grasp, pretty nice.
Shift away at Miero.
I didn't even deal with the balls.
I'm usually with this Beastmaster ball build.
During the draft, I'm thinking,
Okay, we've gyro-culped the PA, all these heroes, how can we kill them off?
Doing a pretty good job of just keeping tabs on Miero and making sure he can't keep two alive for too long.
G.H. has done a really solid job just spamming the spells across his Beastmaster in both games, ruining the boars, making sure there's not a huge amount of pressure going into his carry.
I don't know, I can just cook you over the shelf. Not gonna get caught by Kiritich or anything.
Not to make sure he has to run away there.
He's got Verifier, WAN, Lotus, except our SPL HP already has health. They're strong.
Pauline's gonna fault the initiation with Katomny, but Bedboom continue it.
Divine now, Cookie's forward, so he can keep going with him.
Oh, what a shot! Double ends with that dead shot! How to put Keratis in danger,
instead of losing the tusk, Keratis losing a lot of his HP.
Cast a Verifier just to stay alive.
Meanwhile, the Nero's picked up a kill on G.H.
Really well thought out, man.
That boom of yours, they forced the damage to explode across both heroes.
And now they turn back on them?
Another half shot from that tank team right quick.
That's the homie doing work in this lane.
That's a lot of HP to get through on that centaur with 10 armor already.
They just wear him down.
Level 3 Tusk is so nice with his 1-1-1.
Capblows, block off, magic damage, physical damage.
Oh yeah, great hero.
This toss could be an X factor for sure.
Look at Omar. Coming into mid.
Save alongside this GPK Void Spirit.
Noob has gone aggressive. The tower hits! But the tower's there to kill him off.
Now Omar is wondering why did that TP mid?
GH please save us but the blast off misses completely.
And GPK went on the brink of death. Pulse isn't down.
No way! No way! No! We can't escape here.
GH needs another touch, but in the fog hiding behind the tree line!
Oh my god, GPK STP, Pygrain Vision?
It's a hole!
Coming for you, the movement speed is there!
Or he'd rather die anyway.
He got what he got out of that gig.
Huge turnaround here.
Steve coming in, blinding light, Tango not level 6 yet.
Missed opportunities for Enigma Galaxy, he didn't get the tip.
Oh, BM.
He walked into the tower aggro.
Well, yeah, hold on, there's a little difference there, let's not play him too much.
Well, neither of them get the bottle refill, just blasting off into a bore.
I'm telling you, that was worth it. Miro will be gladly taking back where the killing spring is now up on the Beastmaster.
And I'm sure Miro is a lot happier to be in this game than the previous one.
He had a little rougher start, so he's off to the races here, and he doesn't have to play against that annoying Rubik that stole your ore.
And likely gonna play against less low disorders. We'll see how many
Nick Mcgalaxy buy but I feel like he's gonna be able to connect at scale a little more comfortable here
That is a very fast. How he is
wealthy
Pretty deep from Katomi
Contesting wisdom shrine or at least thinking about it with GBK there
Full rotation from Nick Mcgalaxy to defend this area
I like to pick up kills depending shrine still a little concerned for them
about how much his feasts got bottomed and what he's going to be able to do with it taking
to your ones in his game.
Especially since you became characters, you keep giving it to Dubai, trying to guess the
veil steps forward, but they don't have the reach for it.
And now, two man blasts off.
Look what's happening, bottom though, Rincey Q, all the Medusa left alone.
That's where the pressure comes right, that helm timing.
Yeah, it's so good here.
Medusa just can't fight the early summons.
There's Harpy creeps, little zappy zap.
That chain has only gotten nerfed a few times over the past couple of years, but it's still pretty good.
Oh, yeah. And it's a nice little creep to plant some early pressure. You get the tower as well.
This beast is now buildy, Rich!
Rolling thunder and a cat on GPK, though.
Nice connections there from Noob.
Tipper back.
It's too nice, man. It's too nice.
That's respectful.
It's like GHK Tipper.
We don't.
Don't break rank.
hold formation. Positive. That's the whole thing, right? You don't want karma to bite back.
Just let your opponents dig the hole for themselves. So people are annoyingly nice.
I have no idea what that's like. No one's ever nice to me, and no one's ever nice to Medusa,
either. Is that the tier two tower? Oh, just about gets away. For a moment, I thought that
That's got the blast from Bette Boom, because the man on top of the GBK has been playing it.
Oh my, cast against Fed.
Now some tendrils from the little frogs in the river.
Noobs, washes over the cliff tops, cookie away as well.
Actually, I'm going to live with everybody here.
Apparently so.
That's some- Oh!
What? How was that?
That's my arrow.
Your VAC check is PC, so I'm-
Check PC?
Check PC please. That was very suss.
And he hit it.
What a sick read.
He's so rich after that! Oh my god!
It's a five and a half hour.
What?
This could be like one of the fastest Helm of Overloads I've ever seen.
He's almost at 600GPM, minute ten.
He's about to have this in ten minutes.
If he had a stack here or something, he would...
literally have this potentially ten minutes.
That's wild.
That's one of those things I always like to say.
Oh, he had Helm of Overload ten minutes and I was like,
No, what do you do, sword sadgery?
God, what happened?
16 years, no, it hasn't happened.
No, he almost hasn't here at 10.
That's incredible timing.
This is insane.
They cannot deal with this ancient creep.
And now they've got a blinding light on GA,
she's not the blast off.
GBK getting involved.
Mine's being dealt with.
Will you stop giving this guy gold, man!
I mean, Arrow's unstoppable.
He's six and one!
Big stuff.
What does this do to Medusa?
Like, does she, can she show a lane?
He's gonna take every two what he's gonna go in your triangle. He's gonna take the entire map take your 14-minute wisdom shrine
He has it
10 minutes 10 seconds. What the hell is that? I'm dead devised like guys. I'm gonna have I'm gonna help as well guys
Yeah, that's a eight faster than the average
What?
He just got double tipped because he's so fat. Holy moly. Those are some fat tips. We're gonna split a smile
He just walked down there.
The eyebrows are leaving his forehead.
He can't believe it himself.
He's just walking a granite all down made of ten minutes.
Ningbo.
The panel was talking about tempo.
But my goodness.
What do you have?
You have a robot badge, I pangle.
It's faster than dubstep.
No doubt it's sitting made like,
okay well I'll clear this wave and then what?
There's no edge of play too.
This is out of control.
They're pivoting to this top lane now to deal with divide.
So the guy on neighbour galaxy who wants to push the wave and be that...
That bastard! You defend the centre lane, you push forward, you're strong, he's being shoved back to his tier one.
I have to say, sometimes size makes a difference Gary. This is...
This centre has his dog but it's not the same.
Throwing a granite golem down a radiant lane.
It's not the same thing.
This is the helm of Dominator versus the helm we have at home.
One is a little bigger and better than the other right now.
Well, Kiritich has been left alone too.
So when they make a galaxy find an opening, the Batboom can't do them.
Really big opening here.
Unfortunately, he's not the carry in this game. It's the Beastmaster apparently.
They'll still take that every day.
600 gold kill.
Plus all three tier ones down, so mine flowing into the back area.
Batboom. It's now worth all the team gold.
Because now it's, holy lock, it's there for the Colourball.
This task has, you know, thousands of gold saved up towards the Blink, so I'm gonna see, he's got 800, he's halfway there.
Very quick and speedy up.
That's the issue, you take all these towers, you have such a large team gold advantage, you create so much space, it brings everybody online.
And we've seen plenty of times, just Merit to have trouble when she's booted out of lane, but the inverse is true here, tons of space to sit where she wants and farm lane creeps.
And, uh, after that death, under no real pressure.
You can see Ligma Gallus here having to do the body system.
Omar is sat with Noob trying to react and do what they can.
Just gonna follow behind a net worth.
See what Ligma Gallus could do from this position.
Not an easy one to play from.
This mark down in terms of map control, this early on with a hyperscale carry that needs a lot of time, needs a lot of space.
You just have a dead hero in this game with the Medusa, so you're playing from a map that's at 4v5.
It makes it even tougher. Your mid kind of got slapped. You still don't have that diffusal.
You really need the pango diffusal here to enter this game.
So the window of abuse is still open, and yeah, there goes your blast off.
I want to see Miro just play up in their face.
I was wondering, next item, BKB Blink?
Blink is a salt cure like he's either playing like and now
He's time to zoom forward Blink is cute. Yeah
I'm not sure that's true
Devye is currently set back in jungle no one really showing on lanes for nigma galaxy. He is equally pretty far
He has home on helmet on pretty early at a free lane good match against the water. They got those kills. He's rich
You will have a fast blink here in fact
It's flying out? Yeah.
So that's a good news for DigmaGalaxy. They can play through their own offlaner, who's
almost equally a beast right now.
Trying to play into this Medusa lane.
3-9 smoke, not gonna come to anything.
It's the issue. You lose all the map control, your smokes become harder.
It's more difficult to make moves, you're not getting the power runes.
Your vision is
clustered in closer. You look at Digma's wards right now.
I mean, one ward.
Was there any? Yeah.
There's one on that bottom ramp, one on the triumph, it's very defensive, right?
All these little things add up considerably.
It's just very tough to figure this position.
So then you're relying on your game sense, your reads of the map,
to figure out where the weapon could possibly be.
And maximizing the little power spikes you get.
There's the Diffusal Pango, so that's gonna be the best one here in the early game.
Yeah, and do some of this, right? Cheeky farming.
Yeah.
Get out from your side of the map. I like this G.H.
So they have to differ that they're blinked.
Yeah, they're behind. With these two enemies, they're not as far behind as they were before.
They can start to try and fight their way back on this map. Make something happen.
Definitely an ebb and flow to it, though. Maybe as you step up, you don't get anything, you have to fall back,
and then that entire vacuum is filled with ebb and heroes pretty quickly.
Blink already done for Miro 2, just instant TP's mid.
Instantly smoked.
Yeah, they're ready.
What do they see?
DIA vision has spotted Medusa down south and they're going to play North into the enemy
ancients where Defy is sat farming camps, blinks back, still gets roared, jumped on
snowball, rolling thunder is going to arrive, Noob trying to get something out of this for
the help of the kids.
They're jamming onto Miro with the I-Shark blocking back, Stonegaze and it's going to
blast a cookie from Omar, a double kill for Snapfire, very nicely sent up.
As Kyrgyz has come in but the bombs blowing him up, Miro's creep is going pretty wild
Though the boy the thunder lizard has come in to clear out the Medusa
Just keep okay grabs a double kill another jump a remnant trying to catch up to noob
The pangalare crashing and swashing back to the high ground
He's safe for now, but under that bind and the illuminate needs a bit more help
Precincter after big my gosh, he really abused in the club there on that ramp
You can get the big dog creed they get that big beast master kill who got all the gold
Oh my god.
And now Stampede.
Devise come back and gets onto a save with a stop.
Yeah, T-at-lete.
Time's up on two, G-H steps it up.
And Oh my, with noob from long range poking.
This heritage morator might be in trouble stepping back.
Trying to hit into G-H and the snowball delays the death.
Heritage falls because another stop comes in from Devine.
Libba Galaxy gonna get a big old wipe.
Kat's a homey.
Just an inch away from death.
Devise gonna try and line up with a double edge.
A cookie fall which is pure it.
Too much for your lead. Never gain a lead against Nick McAllister, that's the lesson of today.
A very forced move, trying to assert their dominance with this Beastmaster net worth.
The creep's not in that move though, so a lot of that net worth is missing.
And you end up clumping on that ramp, you get punished by the kisses and the rolling thunder.
A perfect teamfight setup for Nick McAllister here as they strike back.
And Dubai, having himself a game here on the Centaur.
Way better than last time.
I got a roar.
I've got stuff to control, make sure Nuke can't react, I'm gonna save him.
That's a great petrify, Hertz.
Ancient prowler is a nasty creep in this early in the game.
Not that good against the Doosa, cause she doesn't care about the armor, but still doesn't
decent amount of damage.
Straight into the Roshan, so that moves stumble, but they do not fall.
They'll try and continue their ramp towards progressing this game.
I'm sure it's dead shelter to push back any attempt to jump or snipe from G.H.
Sir, can you test here?
They have kisses.
I'm not thinking about it.
They're a key.
They're a key festival.
He's wandering in when they stop the blast off towards the pit.
Kisses are there to laugh at the world of scourge.
It's getting the ages though, until he jumped in aggressively, rooted up, caught by the
Hawks.
GPK, you're gonna line this one up for another kill.
That was so close.
They almost had it there.
What a big steal.
We've moved a lot of the Pace and we'll met him from this easy master lineup.
Can't you lose two heroes and back to being on the back foot?
Space for Medusa.
She needs all the space in the world.
You want 7700 net worth on her in CQ? There's a lot of room to grow.
No recover, he has the fastest farm in hero in this game. As long as he has time, he will get there.
Saw that Terablay to recover on the previous one too.
So he's in that zone right now.
What are you doing there son?
Now has no cookie to get out of the shards.
Some illuminates forward but no indication they want to chase that.
Missing the tusk point.
Coming out very shortly here.
I don't know why'd you still die after clearing that wave.
Chuck himself in the trees.
There's nothing.
Push back.
Get shot.
He's trying to spray, trying to last here with the punch.
Now he has blink, anyway.
East chill.
Now we're just needing Bethlehem to split the map a bit more.
The Void Spirit up top, the Beastmaster around mid, 3 man gang squad in the bottom.
Not forcing that big 5 man move that backfired on them, just extracting more from the map.
Which is what most teams rather do.
Compared to the old days where the map was a lot smaller, there's just so much to farm.
You've armed out everything you were forced to make this 5M move in the Tri-Motion, just to get the fight nowadays.
You don't have to whip that fight, you just extract 2 or 3k extra GPM every 2 minutes or so.
I wonder where to source that.
I'm curious what's dejected, if the Muerta does anyway.
Oh, he's 1 and 2, man.
Flayly.
Passages.
What are you happy about, things?
I've got a tier 2 tower.
It does feel like Bed Boomer, this tricor as well, gonna have a nicer time scaling to
the mid-game, Pango being shut down significantly, Centaur is this initiation tanky hero, love
reliance in this Medusa, I don't want to say 4-Protect 1, but the past couple of games
have been very focused on giving Rintz and Q that hard carry.
We can call that. The style has been in that area even at the draft zone. Like it's blocked in that direction.
G.H. Down and a roar onto this pangolier in the back.
Oof.
A couple of freebeats for Beth Boomb as they come through.
Back into the gate.
Miro's definitely really well blessed.
There too. If you've been watching these Beth Boomb series, he has just been following me.
He's torn it, for sure.
He's always looked exceptionally good on these summon heroes.
He's especially alike in the beam too of his bastard full time.
The getting behind there.
Yeah.
He's getting himself to the active scepter.
It's gonna be a big deal.
And what how are we?
Chasing item choice.
As well as items that always seems good in theory and then when you use it and play with
It's a little suss, you know.
Why did I spend money on this?
Yeah, this item is just, it's rough for the cost.
How long is it this time?
Three and a half seconds.
One every one.
Yeah, that's the issue.
It used to be five on range here.
Right.
Which was the dream, disarmed this Deuceressa
for five seconds, super value.
Three and a half, not as value.
It's a more expensive item now.
Buildup is a little weirder.
Don't mind it here again.
I don't mind any theory against Morta, I think it is super valuable against Morta.
I just wonder if you're better off going Blade Mail and trying to reflect it or
getting a faster axe in this game for saves, stuff like this.
Aren't always the question-verse. A little disarmed time.
Look at GPK! Straight into the middle of them. They knew this setup was happening, so they just roar up to Vi.
Cookie back.
I can control coming in from Pet Boom until Cato only makes the jump in onto him.
Sent to us. As long as the stat beam is not being able to press it,
Blown up as Noob comes in with a second round, rolling Thunder in, G.H. just falls back to his high ground.
And Beppu, let's go back to Titan Building.
Okay, we killed the Sensor, Matusa's not gonna be joining his flight, so we know it'll...
It's gonna be like a 3v5.
Good idea to force the issue. As you said, if you're a pilot for this game, you want to take every sort of skirmish we play, you can get.
They don't overextend into the big A.O.E. like they did in the Triangle earlier.
Just playing this one, playing it smart.
Take another objective, get up another set of items.
Make sure that foundation is nice and stable before you go pushing high ground.
Especially after Alaskan.
Yeah. You gotta re-stabilize here.
How close is Rinse and Q to that?
Butterfly? He's pretty close.
Basically got it here. Another 100 gold or so.
So that'll be a big timing for a Digma Galaxy.
They're gonna have to butterfly. Don't have to try and force something into an Aegis.
Can't take fights.
I'm still losing heroes.
I wonder if they show on the map.
Very tough to get the sidelines out right now.
And then...
Oh, hang on. Why? It makes it jump in.
You don't have to spam feed and back up.
Disarmed, though. Get wrecked.
You just can't go head on into this mirror of Beastmaster, though.
And every time I click on him, he's got a new item.
Pipe delivered for the Beastmaster.
Working on the Crimson God next.
It's a real indication that they're going to go for this killer blow in a few minutes' time.
It puts more pressure to find something with this butterfly timing.
Very good.
Against Kiritzich right now, and all the summons and everything.
How do you find a way to use it now becomes the question because you lost so many tier ones early,
all the tier ones are still up for Beth, boom.
That's another reason these sidelanes are getting pushed back so quickly.
You just don't really have anywhere to go unless you're willing to make a
Big four or five and smoke down one of these lanes or wait next Roshan you wait next Roshan
To waste a little bit of this butterfly window. He'll still be there
Nags done for GBK. He made the big investment. It'll pay off now
Pretty nasty for the back line here more change balance for the centaur maybe not getting stampede off
Annoying for the pink earlier if you find him at the start of the fight
Yeah, I don't think it's the greatest white spirit axiom, but it's okay here
You also have the Chakra magic behind you which definitely helps us build up.
You basically have three resident policies.
And Beastmaster bought an Ogrex at some point.
So I guess his thought was, oh maybe BKB?
I did see it.
And then realized, hmm no, Pype and Crimson.
The call was pivot to Aura's.
We're just gonna five in.
Keep Caratich alive.
Protect him.
Go back for it at some point, likely.
Caratich has a BKB zone as well.
Still a little bit to go for Roshan, so the bad boon looking for this initial jump and
pick off.
Medusa out in the open, just get caught by GBK, solo bind on him, but Noob has a disengage,
divided in half, two man jumps in with the kisses over top, if you're into test BKB,
Miro has pipe, so that's them super tanky, GBK being focused but he's healed back to
half, massive pop heal and an essence ring, keeps him going, plenty of attack for the Void
and sprint and noob can't point it to the high ground.
Taken out and gone for 50 seconds now.
And Bat Boom, on your doorstep,
you could go high ground and cap away.
You absolutely can.
They used rolling thunder there.
They used the kisses there.
That's all your teamfight.
That was your butterfly, Matusa just got ripped apart
by the Martha.
And that was them blinking into the stops.
I'm not even sure they had to force that engagement.
I think when the rolling thunder came out,
they could have just kind of dashed.
That's what I was saying.
They pushed, they were like,
We're way too strong, just send it.
BKB on Kiritich, power through.
This is a very fast game, and this is how you punish those greedy carry picks.
They just don't have time to come online.
The bricks and mortar being crumbled.
Mier on GPK.
And make short work of this mid lane of Barrett.
26 minutes.
And the great thing for them is Roshan in 20 seconds.
So they can just go back to what, maintain bottom lane?
The benefit of doing that first row super early you get the second one with the banner up
It's such a nice interval to just keep the momentum going you get that banner you go high ground again
You can just end these games that 30 35 minute window
This again
Like we're here you could just fight back you know says not going in
And this deuces just taking a crap set of random damage from spells double caught of last all of the snowball shards
Blocked him off. Stampede is too late to bail him out.
Even as you bail him out, it's a little lost, mate.
I don't know if he can escape from here.
The word that's just cooking, man.
I guess the question, Jenny, is for Nigma Galaxy,
if that isn't your timing, butterfly man to Medusa, what is?
So they're probably thinking, OK, we can hold this.
Have us fight in front of our basement, buy back, defend it.
And instead, they are just on the run,
relentlessly being charged at, forced
to stampede defensively yet again.
And you and the panel are saying this stampede a vital tool to get on to the morpher.
They just can't use it that way.
No.
Gotta do some high ground defense. That's your time at this game.
Yay, DUSA sit on the stairs.
Courier snipe's going down. That's pretty nice.
Uh, am I crazy? Have I just entered ultimate reality?
Roshan died.
Oh yeah, they never took it.
Aegis is in the pit.
I was looking around thinking,
What's happening?
Yeah!
Hello?
What?
That boom, you good?
I think the characters are like, yo guys, I fucked up here.
I fucked up the fricking ages in the roast pit!
Next level strats or what?
I think they just realized it too.
Well, they got an amp damage out of it, so...
There's no way for Nick McCarthy to get in there and go and take it, but that's pretty crazy.
Crazy, okay, there we go. You can still have relief from caretich because that's the now you get five minutes
That's true
That's what ain't next level. Yeah, who's it more embarrassing for though? Did you think about it?
They saw a rose not no one picks it up
I just got you a person for better. Well, what happened what happens?
What Roshan when Roshan respawns he takes it no matter what right?
So even if you leave it on the ground when he pops up you lose your ages timer or not
Yes, it gets reclaimed.
Vacuumed back up.
100% I think?
Yeah.
So I think I've saw someone trying to like have multiple Aegis and put one on the floor.
No, you can't.
It does not work.
Yeah, you cannot gimmick it.
Oh well, well.
So, Aegis and Keratich, 13k lead and a smoke from Betboom.
Well, time to go high ground with your Aegis.
Round one, out of seven.
I wonder if they were sitting there going, let's go high ground with Aegis guys and they're
they're like, what where?
What he is?
Where's the H's?
I'm so like, starts in heritage, but there's a BKB and a punch to counteract his initiation.
And he's got to get glimmered and try and get away, but he's cooking forward, playing aggressive
with Gasomi, who gets a snowball to buy time for himself.
And now the stun on this Pango, issues for Noob, full retreat from him.
It's an Ingmogax he has spent.
Oh, it's you, you're really long on air!
Everything, Manipule being diminished.
Ah, jump for him with a snap bead, what respectable fountain!
They control backup Bedboom to buy their big solar bomb and kill it off.
Lost the central while TPK is so tanky.
Plate mail, mage flare, aggro interceptor, multiple stuns, and a massive HP pool.
Not really bothered to go that deep.
Emily's Coddleheel's save is just pumping out the HP.
So many illuminates, plus the mech, plus the holy locket.
And a lot of damage onto Divy apparently.
We're gonna let TPS, we got five illuminates there with the shard and the holy locket fucking up that heal.
Love to see the healing numbers for that plate.
That was probably MVP, because honestly, they probably fought that pretty well.
Bailed out them and do some multiple times, landed a decent amount of kisses, the pango survived the roar, multiple two-man hoof stomps.
As much as you can ask for another great high ground defense, that has been on point for them this series.
If you could win Dota through a series of high ground defenses, I don't think Nigma would ever lose against Bedboom. Well champions, they're number one
I don't know what counts in Dota 2 Sancta
It's pretty difficult to win a game through high ground defense
It is doable though. It wasn't a strat. If you're shit-tombering, you're stubborn enough. There is a world where
You just say okay, we're the ultimate patient gods and we will play for them to advance to their own
The aggressive fall starts at low ground, put the winch to Q right in the mix of things.
Dead for 70 seconds.
That's pretty doom and gloom now for them.
Tipping Kat over there with a swift move.
Has no aggressive go for the rolling thunder.
Save. I just got so much behind him.
Tanky, Cartel walks it all off.
And GPK plays that frontline beautifully to get the second letter barracks down before that boom.
Too easy, painful.
Too easy there.
He didn't jump the doosa, it's all over it.
The line-up's too fast.
Yeah, it just walks into their fountain to pick up his BKB.
They're gonna grab on GH further down south, techies,
wanders into the hypnotize of the remnant,
trying to plant some mines on his way out of here.
Played this line-up really well.
They had a lot of tempo in it.
This Cottle was kind of an X-Factor,
because when you want to push with these line-ups,
you want an Aura Builder, they have that with the Beastmaster,
you want a high grounder to have it in the Martha,
and then you want some sustain.
And all these Blasters, keeping everyone high,
You can't play this high ground chip game as Digma Galaxy, where you throw spells on them, they get low, they have to back off.
No one's getting low in this line.
This is a jump on Charotidus who has Hs.
Divine.
Playing with him.
One more fight in them, I think.
Firebound Smoke, Medusa respawns.
They've got to make a move forward now.
Minster Q will show himself.
Tier 4 tower remaining here by the throne.
Sure it did just make you sure what it got, but while GBK is straight on top of this,
RizzyQ do so with another roar, they've caught her out and there's nothing coming to save her.
Where was that help?
A dealt that, I don't know, noob has been punching to the sky, there's no rolling thunder,
Kiz is coming in now, they went for a wraparound play, they're trying to deal with Bedwombe from behind
and Omar was doing a tremendous amount of damage, the trouble is the rest of his team have all died.
And Devai caught out with a calling.
Taken out.
That was super destroyin'.
They were trying to make some mega wrap around the back to find the coddle and some of these backliners
Rincecute's blocks and dies before the smoke even breaks. Yeah, don't just tilt it around there like yeah, this series is done
Maybe it was
We'll be happy with that the way things are going in that game one super well played with that lineup
Does that lineup can run into issues if it's a slower game for them?
They just pedal to the metal the whole way through me arrow shout out to me
right demolish that game he got so fat did everything right you get that one
botch move to triangle but outside of that smooth sailing for this beast master
and the overall idea and that is how you traditionally punish these really slow
giga carries you just take all their towers take away the space they don't
even have to necessarily go higher on the situation they own the whole map they
can do the Falcons we're gonna choke you out for 40 cake only yeah then throw it
and then build another 50 cake only in that boom style but you're still almost
guaranteed to win that game once you take that much map control away from the hero like you so they can't bite to get it back
There's just no ability to do it actually way more options for that boom a smooth victory here
They think the two-o-sic victory over Nick McIntyre a
Pretty much difference from the way that game one went at least in terms of how effectively that moon team were able to close out again
Because yet again, they managed to get a strong advantage probably not this strong though that Beastmaster not worth I
I seem like he was playing Turbo mode a little bit.
Yeah, he was sitting at like 6, 7,000, network, 10, 11 minutes into the game, not something
that you usually see.
He's taking every single last hit.
He's dominating this bottom lane.
We did say that the bottom lane might be a bit of an issue for Nicola Galaxy, considering
what they started with.
That was his network.
He started.
This is the highlight of the game for me.
And realizing that Aegis has not been picked up,
you could see it cut down on me,
like the lights turned on while he was on camera.
Guys, we don't have the Aegis.
Trying to put him in the high ground.
What is that?
It's been a while since I've seen it, but it's...
Yeah, I know, sometimes you just...
Some guy probably talk about,
yeah, let's go high ground, let's go high ground.
They all start teeping over and someone you're like,
brothers, where the Aegis at?
Like, what's happening?
Sometimes you just place so much Dota
that you go through the motions.
Like you're like, we're doing Russian, like we always do.
It's fun walk out of the pit and you forget what the point of Rochon even is
It's just an objective. I'm supposed to kill it then after that we push high ground
There's nothing on the ground. I need to worry about yeah
One of the problems that Nigma did have though as we just talked about when Beastmaster has
Reload at minute 10 this hero does not lose like it's like kind of
The golden running at your mid tier one tower like minute 10 killing it that minute 11 killing it your Medusa is like
She has nowhere to go like this game was kind of cooked. I think from kind of that point on
The only thing you can do is be like golem get the agon and that's pretty much it is like you can't take out
2000 HP
Creature at that point because it is it is a bit too much and you don't have the damage you have very slow
Safe liner who can't really play the game and you just take over the whole area of the map makes it very difficult for you
To actually play the game and make a comeback
Yeah, Medesun needs a lot of time, which is probably why we haven't seen her be that popular in this tournament.
And she's not necessarily the type of carry that can join fights early, the way we've seen other hard carries, like Terriblade and Piel come more into the meta.
She's not like that, she needs her lane to go okay, she needs all her tier ones to stay alive so that she can TP to them if she is going to join a fight.
Otherwise, if her towers are dead, all she can do is hit the jungle and slither around very slowly and hope that maybe they can hold high ground.
That just wasn't the case here.
The high ground distance was decidedly weaker this time because one man was making his way to each of the towers.
And it was Miro. Miro, congratulations on an amazing game too. Do you still have Dota open right now?
Yeah.
Okay, you mind looking at that last game and then looking at your graph again
Because that has to be one of the most satisfying net worth graphs you've ever had in a competitive game
I think so. I think it's the best
Dominator to timing right? I'm pretty sure we will crunch the numbers to find out
But I'm pretty sure that is probably the fastest there's ever been
Okay, let's see. I'll verify for you
But in your game, that must have been like the most satisfying experience ever to just gold after gold after gold after item.
I mean, this master can farm a lot, so this hero is OP, that's why he can't ban every game.
And yet they didn't ban it in this game number two, despite losing to it in a game number one.
You mind walking me through the 75 minutes of game number one?
Yeah, that was a cool game. Our team says that we want to practice late game. That's why we delayed it.
Oh, it was all intentional. You just, you hadn't seen the tier 5 neutrals yet and you were like, oh, we should see what these are like.
Yeah, of course. Need more practice.
Well, the practice paid off. You got the win anyway. I'm gonna have Kezu with a question for you as well.
Yo, what's up, Miro? You guys did really well at PTA Wallachia. I think you played really well today, but it seems like you're struggling a little more right now in DreamLeague. Can you tell me a little bit what you think?
In the start of the Dream League we were testing some drafts and after the election we got a new patch and metacind the shift.
That's why we just lost a few matches and we did some mistakes. But now we are ok.
It sounds good. So out of some of the what are some offlaners you played in the earlier games that you will not pick anymore in this tournament?
Like wasn't like oh, let's try this here. You're like wow this this year sucks
I mean every hero I picked I can pick again. I guess I just watch
Actually Mars is not that good, but I think he's okay
Okay, so in like the right game you can still play it because I saw a mark played he still popped off in one of the Mars games
Mars is just a situational hero. You just have a better heroes now. You have some underlord,
Pangolier, and these heroes are stronger than Mars, but Mars is also okay.
Yeah, sounds good. That's all from me. Thank you.
It's a bit of a generic question, but now that the group stage has ended and you're
going to go into a playoffs, ideally, I think, are we guaranteed that you're in playoffs?
I'm actually sure let's just assume that you do go to playoffs. Is there anyone from the other group that you're looking forward to playing against?
Mmm, you very enjoyed to play against every of team, but we prefer
to play against team spirit. They had some shuffle on the players and
Maybe we want to play against Parvizion again
Okay, good answers. And yes, I can actually confirm you are making it to playoffs
so you're all good there.
Miro, congratulations on the 2-0 victory
against NIGMA Galaxy and looking forward
to how Bat Boom Team do in our dream league playoffs.
Thank you.
See you later.
The man needed some more late game experience.
I thought they had that yesterday.
No, that's not it.
That same late game that they played against Extreme
was not enough.
They needed more.
No, they needed it every day.
One game every day.
You got to get the reps in, Lacoste.
They got to be on the throwing end.
That's true.
Yeah, they made a comeback.
They did come back, but this time around they were the furlers.
Balance in all things.
Right.
That's true.
Otherwise, how else do you get the full scope of experience?
And they get a clean 2-0 victory, at least game two was clean.
Game one, according to them, was intentionally unclean.
And now they are moving forward into the playoffs.
Who else is going to be joining them though?
Well, we have some answers confirmed, some not yet quite confirmed.
So group A is cleanly resolved.
Everything you see on the screen is how it's going to be playing out.
Falcons, Spirit, Liquid, and Aurora have made it to the upper bracket, and that's why they're
highlighted.
15-6 are not eliminated, Vici Gaming and a Virtus.Pro narrowly make it through, but they're
in the lower bracket for our playoffs.
Unfortunately, that means that two eliminations are confirmed.
X Heroic from South America and Game Relegion from North America will no longer be in Dream
League Season 29.
Group B, things are still a little bit up in the air.
A lot of things can happen here because we only have three teams that are already securing themselves the playoffs and
the playtime they are currently one-on-one against 100 they did win that first game
So with that victory it would push them to that fourth place with cement them
So they would go through and then fifth and sixth place extreme gaming. They are currently three and four
They already lost the Navi which did I mean Navi was already secured earlier today
Yeah, but yeah par vision reconix as well. It's currently 1-1 reconix won the second game
So they could also be two and five time tonight. They lose they could also be two and five
So a lot of things can happen. So if we assume that the favorites will win, which let's just say
Who's a favorite in thunder versus playtime? I don't know why this one
But maybe not playtime baby
Okay, fine. So then if playtime are considered the favorites, then they will have four
Yes series victories. Yes, which means that they will be secured for playoffs and
If
Reconyx who are surely the favorites over party vision absolutely
They win then they will be two and five which means that we get a lower bracket elimination playoff
Nigma Galaxy will be in that cut
Tundra may be in there.
Still, things left to be determined on our secondary streams.
I believe the Earthstream and the Emberstream are still going on.
We, however, are wrapping things up on the Mainstream.
And elsewhere on our Mainstream, we've also been doing some predictions.
How have you been doing, Lacoste?
Let's find out.
I think good. I think they also robbed me of one victory from a couple of days ago.
Oh? You're telling me that you would have been fully correct?
What do you mean you got robbed?
I think they didn't add it.
Oh my god.
I think they didn't add it.
The battle's not dramatic.
We'll crush the numbers all one more time.
Jenkins and I are on a quest to Lost Max, but Lacoste is on a quest to Win Max, but
Effie is hot on your heels.
I don't know.
I was one point behind Lacoste the first few days, and now I'm two points behind.
I had a really bad feeling.
I don't think it's Effie.
I think it's you, T'Nami.
You're getting very close to me.
Those three points, how did you get those?
You're ramped up.
Actually, my placement is the number of points I have, so I'm feeding you on 13 points.
Oh, Sheevers, climbing up the ranks, you?
Sheevers climbing up the ranks. The third, fourth, fifth list. We need to do a tiebreaker for them, I think.
I mean, what's up with Gareth and Brian? Are they trying or are they also lost, actually?
Because 5 points is pretty bad.
Listen, the thing is, like, the day that I did badly, I had to pick some that were different than the cost
because if we were both getting the same amount,
There's no way to leapfrog him, you know?
That's the strat for like days 7.
So I have to pick something?
Oh, so I see what I need to do. I need to put in my answers...
Late.
Just last minute. Last minute.
Or maybe this is just a testament to how competitive our Dream League season 29 is.
It's impossible to predict.
It is.
True.
We're a band of experts, and yet even then, things are quite unpredictable.
But one thing that isn't is the raw numbers behind all these wins,
such as the numbers that get you onto the EPT leaderboard.
The journey for the Esports World Cup
is coming to a close, at least through points,
for a couple of teams.
So now the group A is done,
is Gamer Legion on this list.
Gamer Legion, unfortunately,
looks like they're not gonna get directly invited.
Yeah, that's a little bit sad,
but of course, they can go through the qualifiers,
they can be fine.
The team that I'm looking at is Navi.
They're topping their group.
They're just outside, they're already here,
they've got some good points,
And this team, they're really good.
I really like their form right now.
They're looking good.
They're a group of young kids.
You know, they deserve to make it to the next tournaments.
Yeah, and my understanding is actually
that probably does not have the group stage points yet,
because if you get first place in the group stage,
you get stage points, 600 stage points.
There you go.
But party vision, if they also beat their opponents
with Reconyx, then they're like tied for first.
I don't know.
Noistel has to get called up.
Oh yeah, Doctor.
I have one quick dial.
Yeah.
Yeah, he is currently in back home again,
Switzerland just skiing even though it's summer yeah, but you can always skiing Switzerland apparently and
He's in recovery more because we did use it for the previous
Dream League every dream pretty much. Yeah, the dude was like yeah you guys you guys I taught you all the like
The stats how it's done and everything all the equations and now we have to do it on our own
So we need the extra bit of time. No, no, you know, we got to break up the pen and paper
That is it for the mainstream, so, and I can't give you a schedule tomorrow, because I don't know what's happening tomorrow.
If we do have tiebreakers, then that's what's happening tomorrow.
But even then, is it the best of three? Is it three teams doing best of ones?
I don't know. Nobody tells me nothing.
Just so we just gotta wait? Just gotta wait.
Load up the stream and wait?
Don't look at the secondary stream.
We may actually even send you there. Are we sending them there? Are we raiding a secondary stream?
No, don't worry about that. You can send yourself. Send yourself. Yeah. Press the button.
Wait, there will be some sort of sidebreaker is what I'm being told all of a sudden. I'm gonna spam a Quinn miracle on you.
Did something change in the last minute?
What's as good as mirror?
Oh
There's new one. Yeah, wait, can I yeah, which one would you like?
There's a nice
Calculates, yeah, we could do some noise faddling
Well, maybe not noise faddling, but let's see if my time lose my what you guys do it
That's a good one
You're spamming too much got away
Yo, Aria some bangers!
Hold on, Quinn? No, we've done Quinn. Actually, he's a good one, right here.
What are these costs of panel talking about?
Sounds good.
Oh, these are good, actually.
Let me see some other ones from LaCoste.
LaCoste is entering his mind palace right now.
He could be talking a lot of...
He could also be paying for the whole thing.
Oh, yeah, good voice line.
What the hell was that?
Hey!
There we go, that's my last pick.
That's any time LaCoste ever says anything.
You're deep and fun, aren't you?
I am I'm just thinking I might be the hand here tonight. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there's no I meant more like a
You know, yeah, I don't know if they want us to crunch these numbers ourselves
That's an old one. Good. That's a new one. You're not a huge damage away. Let's do a Jenkins take five
Let's take five for lunch. Yeah, well, if you say so
I could have a better
Let's get a shiver
Today we got like don't worry. We're gonna be able to play with them for all the playoffs and maybe tomorrow
I still don't know if that I was trying to stall to see if one of the other streams would end in the meanwhile
I have more buttons. Don't press them. I hear the intense music playing again
because playoff start on us
Group stage is over. We've eliminated the two teams, and two more teams will soon be eliminated.
And then, we'll really get into the deal, huh?
But that's it for us here on the mainstream. Hope you've been enjoying our group stage of Dream League Season 29.
Go to other streams to find out how it's gonna end.
And maybe we'll see you tomorrow. Maybe not. If not, we'll see you damn tomorrow. Bye-bye!
What to be is running on the spin here.
I understand here, find a heart whose love is true.
Deep down, there's only one companion who's there for you when you need him to be.
Your heart was broken in a thousand pieces, so it's pain that you've been through.
He stands a man who's your salvation
Just ask yourself, am I ready for you?
100%
I'm ready
Take a chance in a new direction
Any place you wanna go
I don't have all the right answers
But one thing I know
I'm so ready for you
I'm ready to say
I'm ready
One hundred percent, now, now, baby One hundred percent, now, baby
That's a million, one hundred percent
Now, one hundred, one hundred percent
One hundred percent, yeah
Everybody's a