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Most important thing.
And Paravision vs Liquid, that's a must see. A must what?
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Uh, you might be thinking like, okay, we're gonna watch Paravision vs Liquid and we're
gonna see some, you know, of the best note-to-action and it's us two with the draft Jenkins that
doesn't sound right.
No offense.
Well, I think we know what we're doing.
Yeah.
We can definitely handle the draft and all the sorts of analysis that needs to be done
for a very important series like this.
But we're not going to.
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Here they are, the egg birds, they're gonna take you through the draft and deploy Power
Vision vs Liquid with Insanity MPS Jank!
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So, going into this series, I was really interested at what these two teams did really well in group stage one.
Yep.
Right, or group stage in general.
And I was like, when did they lose?
And so I looked at specifically Liquid's losses.
And I noticed that Mikkei on Turret Heroes, specifically Marta and SF, was one in four.
Really?
The rest of his heroes, he was ten in one.
Like on everything else he was winning whether it's like a tiny or a kez or like a farm heavy hero like Luna like anything that was
Literally not a range turret. He was 10 and one that's really interesting because I think like historically turret ranged carries are like
Mickey's goatee. Yeah, like the TAs and those are the ones that he does the best on yeah
And I thought that was interesting because I looked at liquids drop
Obviously, it's maybe a little bit skewed because they lost to the good teams. They lost to team spirit and thug
I believe so but when I looked at his games the problem that I saw in their drafts was that he was their sole source of damage
Like every day they had like an underlord offline a tree and five
You know like a rubik for very low damage high utility. So when I'm like going to this game
I'm curious like his party vision kind of has cheesed a few drafts
They had like a huskar four position
They have like they get they have drafts that only they get away with because of nine class
So when I'm good, did they ban the house car? Okay, they banned the house car because I was like this is why they picked the house car previously
Most crazy doesn't get affected by the cogs. What do you think about this clock work hero?
I mean it's so interesting. I think clock the best part about clock is that he enables thirds
No, I think when I looked at the tournament so far. That's the thing that stood out to me
It's like if you get clock suddenly all the range carries are allowed
If you don't get clock all your range carries have like kind of awkward pairings
So you're gonna end up paying it up with some Lich or some Phoenix which is like it's fine. It's just not ideal
What about something like Tusk? I feel like that hero's getting picked but mainly it's four maybe. I don't know
I'm not super it doesn't feel like one of those times where you pick Tusk
And it's just like it feels like the strongest hero in the entire early game gets to run around and do whatever he wants
And he just like cooks everything. Yeah, and I think he has kind of bad matchups in the fives like Phoenix and Lich are both pretty decent
Against them. So I don't feel very sold. Maybe the hero's okay
But it doesn't strike me as like a you know at TI when Boxie just plays Tusk 20 games in a row
Yeah, it doesn't feel like that. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I mean I like because I know in tier one Dota
I've learned a lot from like talking to blitz and people like yourself. What? Yeah, I mean crazy
He learned from you. So I'm trying to try to compliment here, but
But I've learned that a lot of like pro drafting is like you pick a rubik so that the enemy can't pick underlord
For instance, like there's a lot of deny picking but I think it's interesting
I never really thought about the fact that like in this current meta clockwork
Enables a certain type of archetype of carry that you could not otherwise. Yeah
So that's probably why he's even more valuable than he already is. I mean the hero's good.
Exactly, like that adds to the value. Exactly, exactly. And I think that's like it goes for a lot of heroes where like
there's some
some natural pairings where heroes will do better when they're paired up with this or that and
You ideally in your first three picks want to have as many options as possible
That's why like when you pick your two supports and whatever your third core is ideally these will match up with a lot of things
So when you get to the later picks in your draft you don't have like holes they have to plug
Yeah, you have the ability to just counterpick whatever the enemy mid laner is without feeling like oh, no
We don't have any catch now. Yeah, we don't have any objective taking right utility. Yeah
So that that's like usually when you're drafting
They're first three picks you kind of want to make sure that you build a solid base so that you can build up from it
Is that why like I've always thought this confirmed kind of correct or deny here that
Beastmaster reason why he's so highly sought in competitive Dota
Ignoring the fact that he's always just kind of a strong hero, but he does everything. He does objectives. He does stuns
He does, you know wave clear farming, you know, he I feel like he offers so much to like the game plan
That you need to have mm-hmm. I mean it is absolutely strengths of beast
I think the thing that
Like when you think of a hero people usually think about a hero and it's perfect state
Like if Beastmaster gets everything that he wants then he pushes then he deals damage
He's so low kills he like does everything right towers Roche
But what people kind of tend to forget is what is the hero actually gonna provide you?
Well, can you rely on him to provide you because that means like if you're picking it here?
He's gonna get counterpicked. Yeah, there's a chance of liquid as I like screwed our draft
If we don't want draft integrity
We just want to screw over your beast master and then what does he still get out of that and beast is one of those heroes
That is very stable like the the variance is pretty low
He can farm really fast, so if you don't continuously screw over this hero, he'll always recover his game if it's bad.
That's the reason why I think he's been a staple of the pro safe for such a long time.
He has to put a lot of effort into slowing this hero down.
That makes sense.
And it's mainly related to how fast a hero farms and how fast a hero recovers.
And usually heroes that recover faster, you need to put more effort into shutting down and continuously shutting down.
Yeah, I think the reliability like various factors is also something that you see a lot in these early game or early draft picks.
I mean, I think Kez is a carry. Yeah. He also technically does everything like silence stun, mobility, invis, wave clear.
But I also think that with Kez, because of his laning stage being so reliable that he is going to be able to do his thing in almost like every single game.
Like I see a Tidehunter who's like a very common counter pick to Kez because of like the high damage block and the dispel against the damage over time from Kez's third spell or
version 2 of the third spell, but
Like at the same time, it's not like Kez ends up in a rough game. It's just something that can lane against Kez
That's like how it feels at least when I see the drums
I mean for me, for me Kez is the best when you're snowballing and you're playing it from ahead
Which you could say about any hero, but I feel like Beastmaster to me is more of like a
It's good if you're snowballing, but it's also completely fine if you're not
You know, you can play it like Nada get screwed over in the lane and go jungle for 10 minutes
And you're gonna be fine
Whereas with Kes I feel like ideally Kes's gameplay looks like you have a winning mid matchup
You have a winning safe lane and you connect these three heroes and you start taking space on the enemy side of the map
And you abuse the fact that you're so strong in the early game
Yeah, you don't really want to play like a trade 50-50 game
I've actually said that for me Kes is like a combination of Slark and PA as like a hero because he obviously has a lot of
physical burst like PA and mobility in that sense but then I think he plays
the game like Slark where you get that first or second item and you run it
people yeah so like he does have I think what makes him like a better Slark
is that you wave clear very easily so you don't have to spend time basically on
the maintenance of the map you can actually just go kill heroes and run
at them consistently and like a big thing is that your wave clear isn't also
your escape ability true because that's a big part of this part because you have
to kind of like...
Packed in vision?
Yeah.
Oh, let's stun that guy now.
Right.
Which doctor though?
That's a pick I was not expecting.
It's a classic good hero against Tide, right?
It's one of the few spells that is on the Spellable, so you can put Maldic on someone and just like
put that damage on it and it will still deal damage to Tide.
And it gives you a way to kill him in the game.
Also, we didn't really mention it, but Beastmaster against Clockwork is obviously very good because
you have the Boars that kill the Cogs, so you're hard to go on.
Also, any sort of melee support does not like playing against beasts because you get slowed by the doors a lot,
so it doesn't feel good to run at the Beastmaster.
Yeah, usually when I see a Nix 4 position I'm always concerned about the laning phase.
I just remember watching 9-class solo kill a silencer.
I'm trying to remember what game this was, but it's literally a level 1 Nix solo killing,
and he absolutely destroyed that.
I think it was Navi that he did that to, who was 6-1.
Like it was a good team in the tournament and so I'm gonna keep an eye on he he does some really cool moves like creep dragging and
Taking he knows his limits better than most. Yeah
I feel like this whole laning phase weakness thing of next also is like relevant for everybody except my class
Yeah, yeah, as soon as it's my class
I don't even think about it because I feel like a lot of the times like he's gonna put himself on those heroes that are
We can lane but he really knows how to make it
Happen I also feel like notice in that regard has been a really good addition to their team
He reminds me a bit more of DM where like I felt like he knows how to play these hard matchups
And we had him on an interview as well where he mentioned like yeah, I don't really mind like
It's like I was leaving me alone all the time in the index already. So
Yeah, I think you absolutely need to play
I think that's part of why they've been struggling with their off-laner like they've rotated off-laners two or three times this year
And I do think it's it seems like a really good fit so far. Yeah stylistically. I agree
But they do pick Storm into Nick's I think it's interesting because for a while I didn't
I think that Storm was like that guy against Nix, but Nix got his mana burn back.
Like, where if you hit somebody out of Vendetta into an impale and a mind flare, like, Storm's gonna lose like half his mana.
Yeah.
So, I think that's much more worth considering, given the 7.41 version of Nix.
I'm curious to see how it plays out here.
Another interesting thing about these two teams is, I think Liquid is a team that generally wins their safe lane.
like Mika and Pofu are very strong laners and they tend to always do well in their safe lane.
Whereas like, Parry is a team that doesn't really contest the safe lane, right? They will play it
kind of safe. So that advantage from Liquid is nullified of it, unless they're able to snowball
that into like a massive victory. But instead what Parry does is they pressure mid a lot.
And I think Liquid is probably, when they look the worst is when Nisha's games are horrendous.
When people just like keep running out of mid, they don't let him do his thing, they don't let him
him get online. So I'm curious to see how these two things play out and whether Mica
and Boxy or Mica and Pofu, whoever's on the mid lane, manage to absolutely shut down
the Beastmaster and offer to force the game to happen away from mid, or if Pahri is going
to be able to set the pace of the game and have it happen around mid lane and have Nix
be there and do all these destructive moves.
So it's literally, you're thinking it's kind of a game of which team can snowball the
pressure either liquid on their own safe lane or Pahri vision on the mid lane. That's kind
of like a pendulum swing of like for sure if you force their attention there
they're not going to be able to do what they want I think that's like the
objective for the two teams in the game right I think like if you look at the
tools that they could house a clockwork is very good at chasing this mix
around right so very likely they're gonna try to match up the clockwork into
the mix I think to make sure that my class can't do this thing yeah if he
tries to go for waves you can very hard to do that over yeah exactly yeah and if
he looks to rotate mid he can match that too so what I see is like I see pretty
good tools from liquid side to actually like accomplish their goals I feel like
They have a stronger safe lane and they have ways to stop the nicks from running mid and like messing with that whole thing
I also looked at their history and funnily enough this year. I think liquid is won almost every single time they've matched up
Really, but this is pre-noticed. Okay. Okay
That's it's so funny how certain teams just have like
stylistic mismatches or like one team favors the like there's like rock-paper-scissors that kind of goes on
Yeah at the highest level. I mean, what are we looking at for?
No one's last hero here. I mean, I feel like in last patch it would have just been like a snap big quap
It's like but right now I feel like that hero is really falling off
This is an old school answer to start like old Chinese teams used to play a lot of lessons this time
Back then you would go use and you just use them stonem and just kill them with edict
What do you what do you think the idea behind let's drag this time specifically is I do think Lesha similar to
Kez where you mentioned like you win the early game and then you run at people
Yeah, and so I think they are very all-in on this like idea of pacing the game
And that's that's also the way liquid likes to play. So do you think who do you think has like the upper edge on like
Who's gonna come out on top 10 15 minutes? I think it's gonna pick up pretty quick
I mean, I think it really comes down to how the how this whole like mid lane
I think mid lane is gonna be the name of this game right if flesh falls behind
He's just gonna buy like butter if he doesn't if he's playing from ahead
He kills everybody and let's just kind of that that hero right when the hero comes online and he gets to dominate the game
He is the centerpiece of every single game and if he doesn't he just buys a quarter and then the game is usually pretty easy
But I feel like party they have nice tools
I feel like this Kaz blush beast that they all have games and they can come together. It's gonna be a struggle for liquid but
We'll see how there's only one way to really find out right?
Yeah, we've got two people are gonna walk us through it when it happens you guys you guys can they see them over there
Oh, there's far taking care of it
But we'll leave you guys in game one of Team Liquid vs. Paravision with our boys Fogged and OD Pixel.
We were meaning about which fountain of payment they picked up.
We literally were meaning.
Alive!
Oh, there we go, there we go!
Let's see.
What do we get?
I don't know dude doctor. Is this your one of pro game? What is last time this year one of pro game?
Let's find it out. Can you check for me? How do I find out that expert here?
Let me check the last tournament that was on right last time. It was what blackie. Yeah, was it played in walkie?
So I've played it. I love you. I there's right here. There's definitely some fun things to look at
I think for paravision. I agree with what in senior saying I want to see them have a very good start and entrance to this game
I'm worried if they don't though, like if they don't have a good entrance to this game
I'm super concerned about their draft because it seems much more volatile while liquids is just
You can see the approach what they're going for right? It's very clean. It's kind of standard
So let's see if Paravision can cause this type of chaos and if they can snowball with the Lash
I'm curious to see what we're gonna get. Well the game is on so hopefully we're gonna be able to jump into the game
Ladies and gentlemen game one here of
Liquid versus Paravision
yeah we were. Was there a witch doctor? I don't think there was a witch doctor right?
I'm pretty sure. I'm zoned out. I'm zoned and out. Witch doctor indeed that was unpicked at the last land
and you can confirm here it's not been picked at all or is it?
Oh there it is. Dreaming season twenty-nine.
Look at the heroes. Witch doctor.
Indeed unpicked here. So, yes. Nobody's playing in the game.
Well, there's reason, so let's talk about the reason, right?
Well, apart from me and the good people watching on, we play this here, but these professionals, they don't do it!
Yeah, that's gonna be pretty interesting.
Yeah.
So, I mean, the reasoning, obviously, right?
They want to try to pressure the tide.
Insane dot damage, this has always been, I mean, I want to say, always has been a pick versus tide hunter,
but not something you really want to play too much in pro, but people have tried it!
Let's see if they can't snowball and get some type of kills with it.
It's a lot of damage they can't provide.
I just think this Wyburn can kind of stop the aggression pretty hard with cold embrace.
Cold Embraced, it's pretty fantastic versus Validus.
Sure.
Especially early game.
Sure, later on, perhaps not in the best type of way, but early, they go on you and you
just...
Cold Embraced.
It is, but once you get your blink ax on...
Okay, shut the hell up.
Then it's just a really...
If the death wall is hitting the guy in the cold embrace, then it's just like this permanent
target that's bouncing to everyone else.
I'm talking about lane.
So you're not...
Laning phase, you know.
Either way, they're not doing that lane...
They're having Boxy in the lane.
So I actually thought they were going to put the talkwork versus the Nix's assassin to stop him from pulling it.
But now they're actually putting the Wyvern in this safe lane with the Windranger.
So Boots on Nix, he could go for poles, and it's actually Boots on Tofu,
which reactives to the 9-class that he's taken advantage of when he was playing versus that Silencio the other day.
He killed him.
So we'll see if he can do similar in this case. It does feel a bit harder, but he's going to get the pull waves.
This Nix's assassin is going to be annoying, right?
We released our 9-class of Nix's assassin the other day, and it was pretty crazy.
Yep, and I really thought they were going to put the clock down here to prevent this, right?
Because you just bought the boots and you can actually go battery-assault if you want to chase them out,
but usually you just go cogs and stuff, and but...
No, I mean, both do pretty good job. We are seeing Tofu getting some very good trades, and he might just kill him.
He asked.
Alright.
He's going to get this.
He's got it.
Well, there we go.
That's why they have it this way around.
There you go.
There you go. You can just kill him.
Big break.
I don't have to stop him necessarily getting the successful creep drag if you just kill him.
And here we go. You see why it's the clock, right?
They're like, oh, then we don't lane versus the Maladict.
We just pulled away, but now the power of which Doctor really is about valediction early, and if they don't let him use it
Absolutely see that reason. Okay, cool
That tofu's boots absolutely working out that extra chase on the nine-class
I don't think he expected to actually be chased out like that. No, absolutely. No, that was a big news
Just down off the line
And having the wind ranger to just a little assist of a power shot to on the side to be able to
Annoy nine classes. Well, let's see what this nix is gonna be able to do sharing the mid game
I was looking does still have the break on vendetta so versus the titaner
They will have that perhaps to go for some type of kills in full focus fire
Now what would you make of the mid matchup? So there's less coming in as you saw what aina was saying
Old school kind of way to deal with laying against the storm good pressure hero inverse of the storm
Good versus cold embrace good versus a good amount of things here, but a risk, right?
That's why I was saying I feel like they've gone for a bit of a volatile lineup on the side of paravis
Can't be quite risky.
I'm just going to set up on the bomb lane.
Looking pretty good for Micke. He's got free farm.
Joan.
Mid lane, Nisha is doing pretty good so far here in the matchup.
Lane just keeps getting pushed into him. Always will be able to farm here.
And we always have to mention, right, Clockwork did make it through.
So, besides everything that we've all been talking about, and all this clock is in the game,
And this hero, honestly, I think this might be the most broken thing I've ever seen in Dota, just because he can control so much on his own.
I feel like you can ruin one lane, you go to the next one when you have like level 2 cogs, you ruin them as well too with a couple bounces, so always going to be one to look at.
David's doing very well there, I think 60, 60 something percent.
Wind right here at Dream League.
As a first pick too, that's the thing, right? It's a first pick clockwork and it has an absurd wind rate, so tell us a tale.
Voxy probably one of the best right on the old clock. Yep. So very obnoxious. Let him have in it
Here in this first game one come back to buy paravision
And aston this matchup as they pulled the wave he's fine versus a cast right you can train pretty
Affractively because you have level two crack and shell it'll dispel the thought damage that comes out at least from him
If he steps up too far though, he does get hit from like a level two maledict
He absolutely can't die on Ace, so it does have to be cautious of his positioning at least early here.
But right now, the Colossal is still level 1 melodic.
They're gonna try.
Mid.
Gank comes in, 9 class, having to get the wraparound, help set up for them to take down Nisha.
Probably just what he has to do on the next, right?
Stop playing the lane bottom, look for these type of nice rotations.
And a good one there.
Shutting down Storm is probably the best move he can do in the early game.
And now they tried for Ace, but the melodic did nothing, so...
Notice we'll just have to deal with this lane. As long as he doesn't die down here, it's pretty okay for him.
Obviously not great as a Beastmaster have timings delayed. That's the one thing that is concerning as well too.
Even though Nightclust is making nice moves, kills the storm which is fantastic, doing some bounty rune stuff.
Beastmaster does not like to have his timings delayed too much, especially if you're going these dominators.
Can't start to just give up a lot of gold here.
Thanks for your week.
I'm lost, I didn't get hit by a pretty hefty power shot.
That was a nice one.
And his level 2 on the Arctic burn, there's a flood grenade.
He's dead.
Yeah.
No way out of this one.
Tofu again showing how well he can deal with his next assassin here with his Wyvern
pick.
Looking very good.
And this hero is pretty insane, let's be honest.
The rocket as well of course coming in, but Wyvern, honestly loving this hero right now.
I want to see much more of it.
Two to one.
So, lane start, and yeah, notice this has a jungle. So, Mika will have an absolute free lane, and Topu can start making rotations as well, so Mika's first nobody.
So, we'll see what the movement's gonna be from the Wyvern. As we do see 9-class, he is looking to stalk and shut down Nisha, prevent him from getting that level 6 early on here.
Might be able to find him.
I should be able to mess with him.
It's a little, looks like he's not gonna be quite quick enough to head to Misha there, but I mean, Nisha's coming back up towards the lane.
They already went for the tower pressure. So a nice little play from no one
He isolated the tower with the edict while they're going for this
Gatsman hit so Nisha knows that this someone waiting behind him. He's about to be a ESX already now too, so should be safe
And do I have to mention the more things about the witch doctor, right? Witch doctor versus storm is
Pretty atrocious to play the witch doctor in the game. You have no way to really disable him whatsoever. Toku
I'm not going to help out, but the numbers are favoring Paravision. They're able to run straight out of Wart's trove through. They'll take him out, and Anisha, low on the matter, and we'll get Maladix and Angkast will be able to zip away.
Has the fairy fire, but it's still taking pretty strong on him. He's going to have to dodge the next one, then it'll be fine.
And he does not! Ooh, he doesn't dodge it! Oh! I mean, that's the lad that's not played against much Witchdoctor, and I don't blame him, because as you said, nobody's picking it against him.
Nothing.
I like how I'm just saying, it's like playing Witch Doctor first.
If playing Witch Doctor first storm is pretty sad in most situations, but he does not get
the tick on some fair.
Nice play, paravisions.
Good rotations towards the mid lane.
As Insane was saying, enable no one in this game.
It's going to be the name of the game.
Solid stuff.
I'm so happy we actually get to see the witch doctor.
Sure many people are as we have been seeing quite a lot of the same heroes in a lot of games, so it's nice to have some breath of fresh air.
Yeah, especially in the support position, right?
It's the same five heroes.
It's not a game.
Past Focus Fire are already online.
Okay, good.
Oh, they got the shrine!
Yeah.
Notice they actually got it.
So, Liquid, they won't be able to steal that wave from them, and they're gonna lose tofu here.
Power shot does come through.
Boxy watching from the side there, can't really get any closer.
And Boxy, can he actually get himself out of this?
He gets caught from too many stuns, he's in a bit of a dangerous spot.
It takes it the long way.
Yeah, looks like Nanklas isn't going to chase with no one, so...
Oh, he's heading back over now, but...
It's fine, Nanklas is already...
It's very disruptive.
And yeah, they got the shrine!
So they were able to stay inside of it, I don't think the Liquid Heroes got in in time,
either way, I don't think they can get in anyway, because of the rotation from no one.
Now I'm having a very good opening to this game 2-0 and 2
He's queuing up that blink dagger very strong this game to get on top of the wind ranger in the tide
Nisha
Ducal is trying with the dodges good
Well off the road since he tanks headed over Nisha's got to be careful now
Cup of the silence
Wants to try and kill Ducal, I mean at the moment
He just wants to get out of there out of manner and pretty much out of HP Nisha has to back off
Alright, Tukkala's just playing that really nice.
Into the Roche pit, gets the cast bounce, uses the fog.
That was actually quite beautiful, and the power root...
We'll get denied.
Ooh! The power shot!
What a shot there for Mikkei!
And the cogs!
Role will come out!
I mean, that was very close to nearly being able to take out no one as well there.
So, Nautilus at least came out with the ball to stop Mikkei from getting the chance to kill the ledge.
Turbos getting focused by Nautis and 9 class.
Mikkei's cleaning up.
He's bringing those damn pretty low shackle shots back up get the kill and with the setup from Nisha
He might just get nine class as well
Into the pit with the stun. He got him. Oh my god. I'm glad. Okay. Mckay did not
He was not expecting that and he did not respect the fact that that could happen
He ends up dying there and nine class pretty happy with that cleanup doesn't matter that he dies at the end
They got a shot done. I mean make a show of that Gary get some good cleanup kills
But Paravision is doing exactly kind of what I wanted them to do is cause and chaos finding these crazy kills
that are probably not anticipated. It's a level 6 nyx with 1400 gold. These kills actually
were astronomical crazy. This blink dagger timing on 9 classes. This ain't just a crazy
blink dagger timing on a nyx assassin. Crazy blink dagger timing on a 9 class nyx assassin.
You get this man some tools to play early. He is going to be an incredible nuisance.
You can do a lot of tricky plays too with this blink besides this blink normal stuff.
We'll have to wait for a second as he might just go down here.
They should be able to get him here, go through, find himself a bit of a nasty surprise.
Headed up between gate.
So he can blink, vendetta, hit the tide, and then they can focus.
So he doesn't have to vendetta and walk up to melee to break him.
So can potentially have some really good moves if he's able to get this at this fast pace.
But does get killed, gets slowed down.
But the nine class nicks making some really nice moves and no one they still continue to be pretty nicely enabled
He did not die before it was close
Yeah, coming in close for that roar to control Nick a couple of shots away from taking down the lash
There's something about Mickey win ranger though every time that we see it compared to everybody else is just looks nice
They did I was gonna do because we were talking about this as well early on win ranger
We kind of felt a little met on right now
But Mickey he would be the one that you say can absolutely make this hero work pretty consistently as a character
I think he's the only player I want to see playing it really like we stop here
He did okay, but you can see who's like dying a lot. I don't know
There's just something about Mickey when he plays it just looks quite different
So we'll see what he can do with it this game as his tide is falling pretty far behind him since we did see ace left alone
But he is level eight so has very good levels on him
9 class, he does get seen there by that sentry, link for no one, soon on the horizon a ttb
top, he's very far, jukkha is ready to go, he missed the maledict, that's true there's
no maledict on that side, they need it to be there, should be alright, he's down, well
Mark a little bit with the Milo Dict.
Happens.
It does happen at times.
Very hard ability to land in the mid-game as well too.
Just want to be super slow, short cast range.
Yeah, animation is not the best either.
Nice try though, if he lands it, it's a kill.
7-7, the blink is now done.
So for power vision, can look to speed things up.
Ideally wanting to get an early tower here, I'd imagine, with this last try.
Because they have the Lash Beast, so I would say that they want to be the ones pressuring in this early game with it to get a bit of an advantage.
Just naturally being able to take those towers easier, but there's ult at the ready on the side of the lake with it. They're rotating.
I'm gonna jump straight to the river here, Pox is in trouble, he's gone, no one's low though.
Nisha, it's got enough burst to finish no one off, he does.
Having to get the kill, Raffage comes out on the Ducales.
Static.
Ducales is healing up though.
Finally Ace will be able to take him out, Nisha on the retreat, Static is going to chase him down here with a fail.
The ball takes control of Static from now, the bash still comes into play and the damage over time takes Nisha out.
We'll be okay.
Static should be as well, but Boxing Respawning doesn't have the hook shot.
Looking to catch Static off guard.
It's hard to change that.
He should be fine.
Numbers brought around the mid lane.
We'll get the Dominator creep this walk too.
I think it's actually like an equivalent exchange on that one, but we did see quite a bit of ultimates used on the side of Liquid.
Sure. There's the Gravage. Cursed.
Yep.
Gold-wise though, ends up even simping through the experience, but they do lose the Galvanized Charge for Nisha, so perhaps a slight win for Paravision that they get the tower as well.
And now getting the storm!
I get to catch on a boss, Nisha!
Big win.
And the cast actually bounced back to him with all the creeps there, that was actually a pretty fortunate bounce indeed.
I'm getting more rolling.
And it's not easy for Nisha, right? If he ever tries to push out lanes alone, they do have...
And especially once that extra bling daggers down to 9 class, multiple ways to catch him.
Um, so he's gonna have to farm and play pretty safe.
Coming into these next few moments.
Liquid looking to get a catch as they split up, but Paravision's smoking, perhaps they're making their own move. They're reading this.
They're gonna find Tophie first, 9 class.
The trees.
He's up to the high ground, but he can catch him out with the spike camp.
This box he's still gonna try and lead in himself, but that's totally already gone.
Now there's not really any fight that boxy can kind of go back in at them with.
He's gonna try for the team to be out, but they know he's there. They clean up both supports.
That was a hot little play there. Back up smoke. I don't think Liquid expected that by any means.
Get right on top of them there. That's Blink pretty much finished up for 9th class.
Setting the pace here very nicely on the side of Paravision.
And playing around those cooldowns, right? They knew that Ravage was used.
They knew that Cursed was used. I think it came back up, but...
Great aggressive plays from them so far
See again just right away finding the ramp around to tow through and at that point
It's a bit awkward now, but he still wants to try and disrupt sort of the back lines
But no one was there really to help him out on that one. Yeah curse was still on cooldown
Yeah, so perfect timing pretty much from paravision and a great read
All three cores in a very comfortable spot and their mix assassin has the blink dagger finished up in a lane
that could have been much worse, right?
The next beast that have not come out into this position, must be very happy.
Liquid is definitely seeing quite a bit of the fragility of their lineup, right?
Four heroes that just kind of die immediately if this Lash gets on top of them.
Ace yet to really get involved too much here, besides that one ravage.
Yes, Zero Galvanized for Nisha.
Open an easy game for Momlos, though.
Did get counterpicked pretty hard, right, with Lesh, plus the next assassin, in particular.
And the Fortunet bounces so far from the Kalista, that you've done some work versus him.
Radiance top top.
3k lead, and the helm of Overlord is going to be finished at an amazing timing.
All things considered, right with the lane, it's actually a fantastic one.
See how much they can pressure with this.
They can take objectives quite easily with this lineup.
Deaths aren't finished up too.
Yeah, even Roche must be right now at this point.
Yeah, they want to try and use these sort of timings to just go straight out liquid.
Absolutely.
with the smoke Paravision ready to go with a full 5 man.
Liquid's gotta be ready with their, with their teamfight in particular with the first, the biggest one.
Smoke does get broken.
That should be pretty...
aware that this sort of moves coming in with whether they saw notice.
Paravision cannot get multi-cursed though. They can hit by a multi-cursed, it could be disastrous.
So they will split up.
Look for the backline.
9 class gets a nice sneaky ward in too, so it might be able to find the wyvern with that.
Jump forward.
I'll hook Jon to 9 class, he's in the cogs though.
Now it's the 4th for Nisha, Nisha goes straight forward to Colossus, put the cast in the back!
The ward is just gonna catch him, he's dead!
Oh my god, the cast!
I mean, they get the support, they do get no one, so it still works out, but Nisha, he
can't catch a break against this witch doctor.
The Colossus has his number for sure.
Liquid, they'll be able to come out on top, of course with the Ravage coming in and ensuring
that they do kill the big kill, get no one on top of two supports but uh...
No Gal... he does get one Galvanized.
Okay.
I think that was just from leveling up though, it doesn't get any kill Galvanized though.
He's just gonna continue to struggle.
A very aggressive play coming in from Paravision does get punished.
He tried to push him with the cards but didn't get inside.
Thus happens sometimes.
Just the bounces.
Perfectly between Nisha, Ace, back to Nisha.
Just enough of an interruption to set up for the bash coming in from Satanic and Dead
Storm.
But you know what Nisha says?
I don't mind.
I don't mind.
We've got three in the turn.
He's having to be a bit of that sacrifice.
Yeah.
He's like, you know what?
Yeah, I am sure to call us and say like that. That's great. I love getting cast
like that, but oh. Night class.
Wooo, he's quick with that one. Sneaky, sneaky.
Senders that roast, we're mentioning the desktop with that hum of overlord timing.
Ravage was used. They do still have curse that the ward coverage of Paravision is
watching all this area from Liquid.
Well, I need you to be able to get the Amplify Damager in as well.
That's actually quite nice.
He's going to want to try and go for a steal, right?
They can Power Stop for vision.
Yeah.
They have Rocket Flare for vision as well.
Don't have the Hookshot.
Maybe it's too risky.
Too risky.
Yeah, and then I'm going to try and go for a steal.
So, Baravision, they might not have won the teamfight,
but they do get that Aegis on to Static.
Super early one. 18 minutes.
You usually don't see them until like 20.
But having that Gesso and Overlord at that good timing
and allow them to set this tempo.
Can get the lanes in a good position, prepare themselves for the torment or two.
And when you have Aegis versus Teamfight,
always feels good to be able to take the upcoming fights in the four minutes.
Hitting very good timings.
How's the beast doing too?
He's getting... I mean, he's gonna have an AC relatively soon too.
Not soon, but relatively early, I should say.
On notice.
Fantastic.
first 20 minutes I would say for paravision.
For liquid?
That's a little bit recovery really right for Ace and Nisha.
Needing the BKB in particular, at least on Mikkei so that he can just beat that frontline that they need to for the team,
because he's having a fantastic game, and if he can't just BKB me only or run in,
it's gonna cause some problems in particular for no one.
He's very squishy on this west hill.
They didn't find the ward that 9th class placed earlier,
I'm a bit surprised about behind the tier 2 in the mid lane.
Liquid...
How the hell to back up?
Do you think they'll feel that they need to try and look for something whilst Pyro is at this age?
Or will they just be avoiding the most part?
It's hard for them to get onto the opposite side of the map right now.
They have to deal with some lane issues, so I don't think they can look for it.
Especially not till Mika has BKB, I'd imagine.
With BKB, perhaps they can look for a play.
Nisha, careful.
Has to be so cautious about that Carapace.
Just till they're finished up for Boxing, that will help.
Versus the Nix, doesn't have any charges just yet.
Night class scouting, giving information for his team.
A lot of information.
Good old cogs.
I'm also giving info.
The night class just stalking Boxy, ensuring that they know always where this block is.
Decalus's eyes, he's setting up for a wisdom steal, it looks like he is.
Trying to go for this 21 minute wisdom.
the game's slowing down so it's a shot goes the way it's nine class he was
about to buy it so fantastic for him one of the better ones you can get early
on they're looking to pressure with this they can't even kill the tide hunter
since they do have this break ace is very close to having agonies for the
next fight to that goes a big time in some part isn't the agonies done for
Satanic?
Mm-hmm.
Now he is super fun.
He's matching Mickeh, who has six kills.
What did Liquid do about this?
Hit the scam paravision. They know that Liquid's in the trees.
Into the Aegis. It's tough to see how they want to approach the fight.
Foxy?
They go for the hookshot.
The catch on to Nightclas. They're clipping him at the edge of the sentry.
Nightclas now with a turn on. Awards, Foxy. Nightclas will die.
Foxy?
Now we're gonna take out that to the damage in town for Satanic.
One time fight back there, look at the Satanic.
Satanic turns to him, the win runs out, Ravage comes out onto the two of them.
Ducales, he'll survive there through that initial burst as the witch does, so he's still alive.
Mika's gonna try and hit him down to the stone stair.
The death towards out, finally Ducales will fall, but the damage has already been done.
Mika's guy through the BKB.
Liquid has to run.
Ace, finish off by no one.
Satanic's on top of Toto to the cast.
We'll hold back the two of them.
The Turf is still potentially in trouble.
We'll try and hide across the trees.
Satanic, look at this.
Roars down on Tanisha.
And so that manner afterwards, they
will be able to zip away.
Satanic, do you want to dive the base?
He gets to the silence, because we want to go up
into the Turf trees quite yet, though.
Oof, Micah, he gets the BKB off,
but all of the damage already put out.
The edict was taking everything was right on top of him.
He just gets melted right through it.
I'm shocked Luke would really committed
to go for this fight into the ages.
I guess because they got the Ravage on three,
but it took him some extra time to finish off the witch doctor.
Ball continues to roll for paravision.
And look at the damage they were able to do to him.
He didn't have windrun up at the start either.
I think he got clipped by an initial stun too, so all that damage came out before Mikkei.
So he can't turn.
So he's at this point where they sort of hit the shackle, they sort of maybe go for safe damage,
and he said that if the ravage comes in...
But watch Mikkei here.
He takes some time to get to the windrun, and he gets stunned.
A lot of damage gets put on, still no win run, and then the edict is already out by the time it comes out, so he's just dead.
Very good fights for paravision.
That's exciting, but he's super strong right now.
Yeah, and notice has a full AC now after the fight too, so the damage from Staphanic is gonna be ridiculous.
Everybody is sitting at, what, minus...
Yeah, minus 11 armor.
And some pretty squishy heroes at this point, especially Nisha, as we see him just chain die.
Yeah, you get caught in a spot, you're pretty dead.
Yeah, they'll be at negative armor pretty much.
Or at one armor.
Same thing for Micae, all of them actually are.
Yeah, the ace has 23, but everybody else will be pretty much at zero armor if they get hit by a desk though, near the Beastmaster.
has to sort of be a situation which Lick would get that kind of jump instance done on to someone,
but it's not too easy. I mean, they do obviously have a blink on Tofu, but they don't kill heroes that fast, right?
Yeah, even if they do get that.
Yeah, if Micky's there, he can probably just delete one target, but that's only one target.
I would say Paravision, they have so much more spread damage, much easier ways to just go for the
just straight up fight, and a blink now for notice to pick and choose which target he wants to go for with the Roar.
There's going to be a complicated kind of mid game for Liquid to get out of.
Yeah, it's a tough one. Tough one here for Liquid.
Paravision looking very hot right now with his first 25 minutes.
And look at 9-class. We said he's got the break.
Oh, Declas, he's going to be ready to lay down the damage.
Here he goes, with the Maladiks in the depth ward, not a chance for the tide.
9-class, further set up here.
This guy's on top of it.
And we'll try and strike back against 9-class.
9 plus 7 to 10, get a nice 2-man stun off!
9 plus 10 alive for him to still finally dies!
Might get a trade kill, it's gonna be close!
Gets the Golden Brace off, okay.
So at least something in return, but still losing Ace.
As both Ace and Nisha continue to struggle to catch up.
Ace stepped up very far by himself, versus that tower there, which they've not been able to really pressure onto any of these towers.
Paravision, dictating pace. Tofu.
Don't switch to Carlos, but Satanic's ready to enter him from the side, straight away with the silence they catch Tofu!
Satanic does put the BKB!
They'd be expecting that more heroes were in the area, but not the case.
Push on a little bit here, Power of Vision.
Everything looking fantastic for them.
They set Ace falling further and further behind.
have a decent timing on that axe but absolutely seeing the struggles for them.
He's tackling so much.
Nine class has truly ruined him this year.
He really, honestly, I feel like nine class is on the next assassin.
You know, it doesn't matter if you're a niche, you know, one of the best in the world of the
storm. You're just not going to have a good time, right?
Nine class on the next, he is going to make your life pretty miserable if you're on a storm spirit.
Best nix in the world by far. Yeah, he's just gonna trip you up every single time the carapace in the stun
And he will find you
Insane what he's been able to do this game
From the early game sure he died level like died pretty early on in kind of a funny way right but either way he gets the job done
Let me saw this the other day. I didn't feel like I was like there was a time where you would just always ban out nix assassin against
Paravis. A lot of times that time might still be now
I mean Paravizion, a lot of times when 9-class has found that hero, right, he's kind of front-games.
His monkey king at TI, people started banning it, and then it was like, uh-oh, what's 9-class gonna play?
And you saw him truly struggle, so...
Perhaps could be something that teams do look at, but he does have quite a bit more heroes right now inside of the pool.
But this one does feel like he's one of the strongest, but not the strongest.
It just gives so much for the team right now.
And the lane, it was looking rough, but then he made these moves happen and then no longer.
Notice has fantastic timings, probably better than expected.
Well there's the BKB on no one, so he'll feel a bit more confident just kind of entering
into the midst of the team fight.
Partisan's brand as well, incredibly strong now on this lash.
And rallied around the AC, sitting at 23 armor as well too, so Liquid has to have some pretty
insane execution in this upcoming fight. They do have the blink on ace. They're looking for a wombo combo.
Shield and an amp damage though on no one for the upcoming fight as well.
Power vision. While nine class goes and hunts, looks for information, steals shrines, the team is
sticking together as four. Not getting caught off your boxy, attempting.
They're not coming to an end and not really able to find anything with it, they'll try
and push on towards the bottom of ParaVision, which looks like they're pretty prepared for
any sort of play from Liquid.
They're going to smoke up again, Liquid.
I'm quite impressed with ParaVision's macro game this game.
They'll fight 9 class 1 is on.
So this time Elise is able to take him out, but there's a couple of smokes having to be
popped to just get that next assassin kill.
They're reading these movements pretty nicely, because even earlier when they did that very early tier 1 play, just reading Liquid's moves has been quite beautiful.
Boxy's still persisting.
Pretty ready for it.
I'm not gonna get caught out by that.
You sure? Jumping?
He's gonna try and go for the zip forward.
He's gonna try to throw the dust as well.
He doesn't have to commit with the BKB though, to get this kill, and at the start, hold on, he's ready to go.
Two jumps on him was the two supports, they've caught time from Vox, he noticed, he's him, we're gonna have to buy back coming from two cars, he draws down to control Mikkei
As he's gonna get beaten down by notice, he's gonna try and run away in it
See if he can escape this, the stun won't connect, the slow does, from the lightning, no one blinks for it, has to be a little careful, the focus flyer is still up on it
Towards him
No way he gets out, nine class, he's on him
He's gonna find him
It can run, but 9 class indeed, wait him right behind him, takes him out.
The call is even buying back, when it's probably not even necessary, but just ensuring that
his team can just dominate the win.
Great fight, and it feels almost like a bit of a desperate move from Liquid, double smoking,
looking for this catch.
No one, he's in prime position, gets the scone on the two supports, deletes the Wyvern
before he does literally anything.
Next fight, Stakedatic is going to have to pull MKB, as the, the casket of Lifestan is
You're gonna get harder and harder for Mikkei and as you can see on the net worth
He's pretty much the only kind of real hope the liquid after rally behind at this point of the game
So as he starts to get countered by these pickups
The game is gonna fall into
Top and tougher territory for liquid. They'll get a little bit of a catch here on a safe turnic the cards
They'll be annoying. He's took a PKB ready to press safe turnic. We feel his pressure to do so
Chasing on for box here put the PKB now get the silence on for Nisha and he should taking a hell of a lot of damage here
That's a zippered all the way back.
He takes an insane amount of damage though.
Has to back up all the way to base.
Static.
Pull back the lag.
He's, this, this Kaz performance is also pretty incredible.
The amount of farm that he's been able to find.
Perfect itemization, yo.
Another VKB picked up here for the team.
Noticed that it's his online.
Liquid.
Ravage again at the ready. Cursed, of course, was used. Still trying to find these fights, trying to find something.
BKB is cooled down for the cast, so perhaps that's the reason why they're hunting right now.
I'm crossing stages, don't wait, watching!
OOOH, Nisha will be able to react with a BKB this time!
Foxy's deleted.
After they used the BKB to come back up, they'll try and focus.
No, but no one's got the BKB in the bloodstaren off.
They kill up, time for the rules, they're controlling the KG through the BKB.
They'll try and run now.
They have to just get out, liquid if they can.
Neesha alone at HP and the mana will be able to zip away, Rammies does come out but it's not going to do a whole lot offensively, will at least give the charge for Mikkei to run.
But defensively, Ace will assist them in getting out.
Ace blinks north, can they actually get onto him?
He tried to dive the base here for Mikkei.
He was looking at that on a charge, so they do manage to at least keep their cores alive there.
Yeah, but they're hunting for these fights because perhaps it's like the Kez, BKB or something's on cooldown
But they can't get any type of big kills walking on the high ground
They get nobody boxy dice literally instantly as you hook shots in
And just get that the way they walk into that right now in class he's just thank you for the missus there
But he sees these this also a move. I'm still not as right. I mean, just sort of just zipping out trying to just dust him
Yeah, I can only imagine
They're definitely, at least probably a few of them on the team stand. We do not want to play against this Nick's assassin again.
No, definitely not. He is doing so much work and has so much mixed damage as we're seeing in their draft coming into play.
The BKBs come up at nothing's safe. BKB you get forward and Enix on top of you, little pokes from any of the things that could come from the Kess.
WC's storm, Nisha in particular having the most difficult time as his core is a silence.
A couple casts that have ruined him as well.
Yeah, T'Karlis is having a lot of fun on this which Doctor you can only imagine, doesn't
get to get it much.
Nobody does.
It's not, but it's always an enjoyable one to play.
100% competitive win rate coming into the witch doctor here.
Potentially.
Very likely so far.
I have vision on my way over.
Stapanic ready to chase.
Does not have too much to fear at this point whatsoever now on this case.
Liquid, is there anything soon that's coming out that's going to be big?
I think he needs to spend as well too, I don't think he can save for buyback in this type of game.
I think he needs to have every little bit of damage he can to try to burst these targets.
If they can burst the Lash and try to isolate things, but it's so hard.
How enough do they go about now, stopping notice from being able to freely roam Mikkei every time Mikkei BKB tries to roll up someone?
He might be priority number one, maybe.
Yeah, I think so. If he gets the press brawl on the windranger, the fight's over.
Either the windranger's dead or the windranger has to run away.
Essentially so.
But how do you focus fire the Beastmaster?
Because he's a 36 armor, BKB, 3600 HP.
Don't think you can even burst him in him.
I mean, if you obviously isolate him completely, but...
It's not been the case notice, it's not been caught off like that.
Definitely difficult.
Maybe just a multi-hero ravage into a multi-hero shackle and then right and then they focus
like that.
Yeah, maybe we look towards a, to be the one to make the big combat plays here with the
ravage.
But it's very difficult to execute at this point with this disadvantage.
We'll have the Sheevas.
But so far, Paraviz just has not, they really have not given them the opportunity at all
to go for, like you said, go for the chorus.
It's the supports only who are dying.
8 on 9 class, 6 on the witch doctor.
And the boy's found again!
Free-raining!
I'm telling ya!
He's just coming in!
He's done with this, Nix!
He's a never-again-do-I-wanna-play-against-the-9 class!
Nix, this happens.
Wouldn't be surprising if it's...
...baned out, Nix.
Truly crushing it.
Time to poke high ground.
25k lead, they've got Aegis, there's that crit for Micke.
See if he can actually kill a core, since it's been a long, long time since they've been
here.
How do they even begin to push power vision back here?
It's like an Aegis, then?
Might just one shot them through Topu.
They've got to get back to the fountain there.
Let's get a hookshot for the box. Here's the Ravage!
It's a pretty one.
He gets a whore of them, and no one's there to put the BKB in the bloodstone.
He's out, but again, no one's ready every time with the run to make it.
The curse comes out. Again, it's a nice curse.
It's bringing no one down though.
It will at least allow them to kill off no one.
But make this dead.
Let's say Tannick, he just cuts for tofu with a couple of slices.
Zip for Frenesia, but the barracks are already gone.
Every single time, Micke just gets roared. There's no defense for him.
The ults were nice. You know, nice poor man wrapping.
But he's a little three man cursed. But uh, nice, ain't gonna cut it at this point.
And now they're healing up. Which doctor will be able to push them back toward full HP? Rax.
30 seconds till Micke is backed up.
Nisha trying to clear the wave, will be a flag bear creep, they still have the double catapults coming in, and top wave is still pretty gigantic, they could just keep going.
I think they will. Don't really need to back off until their power vision. Absolutely crushing it in here in this game one, Nisha. Look at the PKB off.
But my goodness, he nearly gets caught again there by 9 class.
Misha's had no game. Literally no game.
Misha's had a gun relatively low, but still has the Aegis.
Night class.
Can they get anything here, Liquid?
They want this next year.
Misha, he wants them!
Get him!
He's going to get him! There we go.
A little bit of revenge coming out, but now Stake Tannix ready to get him with the BKB.
Who did it?
He's really focused fired by Mika, but Stake Tannix, if we get the heal off, turns back towards him.
Curse will hold back the three of them.
of them. Into the shackle, if they can finish off the kill they can. The Vortex is there
but Nisha's actually using all of his mana for this. He'll die for that because he can
be about to come to an end. He'll turn over the Power Shire. Actually, it's enough to cut
down 9 classes and die back on the next assassin. A little bit of a sign of life there honestly
from Liquid. They're able to kill off Static. They get 9 classes twice in that fight and
they get to call us on top of it they keep the game alive it's pretty much the
best fight they've had all game the sequence of the way the the stuns
came out yeah the roar right the roar came out on mickey and it's like oh oh
but then they get the curse they get the shackle shot they're actually able to
follow up with a vortex afterwards to bring down some panic and yet Nick's
assassin buys back and dies all right let's make it can do that again liquid
it's a pretty big side of life at least to be able to try to get these leans get
these Lotus's potential to help versus the Beast.
And yeah, focus in the next, right?
Definitely a good idea.
And yeah, we'll see the kind of change situation that happens here.
The panic's starting to drop low,
the board is gonna come out, and then great person sequence afterwards.
That's tofu.
Getting that off and giving the chance for Mikkei to stand strong,
turn, and get that big kill taking out Satanic.
You've got a huge amount of money for that one, Mikkei.
It's a very difficult kind of chain stun to execute, but they do at least get it off
finally for the first time in this game on to this, on to this bird.
And Mikkei, yeah, ultimate orb is done, gotta be getting closer and closer to potential
linkins to protect him.
Of course, there's still other spells to get procced, so there's still B4 that comes
through quite easily, so I stepped toward the right direction.
Can they do it again, Lquint?
Execution has to be literally perfect, right?
That's the sequence that they can't use wait for the roar was the quick move from power the curse of liquid up to back off
It's can spin hit power vision is going to be chasing them
Notice they've been they've been cautious notice also has a full hacks for the next fight
So he can just hacks into a roar potentially to find the next target
Momentum for provision
The shard for notice. Oh, that's nice.
Oh, and the river! Oh, they get the opening!
Oh, and the ravage is not quite there in time.
St. Tank's able to plot the BKB and escape.
No ravage now. Two minutes.
Now, is at a point as well where we'll see how long the Roshan Respawn is,
but if it's an early one, it might be there before ravage is back in play.
Let's see.
It's up straight away.
It's instant.
So no ravage for the Roshan contest.
If, you know, we have to go to the ravage,
I have to head into the pit
and see that it's there for the taking.
DKB is on cooldown, so they could,
they could wait 60 seconds,
then just do the super safe play of going for it.
They haven't checked the pit yet though,
so I don't think they're 100% aware
that it is up at the ready.
But they should just be able to go for that one there.
With ravage on cooldown,
very difficult to see how liquid contests.
Almost having refresher on ace
and getting closer to 25.
He's not for big pressure.
Like, could you get that extra few hundred gold now?
Because if he gets that refresher,
and he's having sort of surprised them with them.
I think they want the double though.
Sure, Robin, just going for the cheeky kind of.
Oh, you didn't think we had it?
We did.
And they're not even going for that rush just with anyway.
He's gonna have it done though, for the fight.
Okay.
Okay.
See if they can land the big combos
to allow Mickey to kill these cores.
This one's coming in from ParaVision.
Liquid.
They seem very careful for this.
They know that ParaVision is going to be looking to try and catch someone out on the map.
Scan's been hit though. ParaVision knows somebody's leaving the base.
Some of the balls over there.
Found Poxy.
Catching kill off the clock, Quirk.
Decent kill.
It's the rocket though. It's going to be scouting the roast constantly.
Double observer is going to take me out.
Ooh!
There's the cut!
There is the Yuntus there, so the curse from Tophu, not gonna get the McKell, and now they just can be able to jump back over towards Tophu.
His only option is buying some protection, but not enough.
Goes for a cheeky play. I mean, it was a risky one. He doesn't have Vi back on the Wyverns, they won't be here for the high ground effect.
They will look for the jump, and they get the Shackle as well, on towards no one.
Ravage comes through, but notice that so much HP to try and get for his perfectly fine.
Look at the BKB off, and the Bloodstone. Boxy, he pulled back for this, he's out for good.
Aces out of the game, no buyback on him, no get the grab on a Saitanic, but Saitanic's healing up, we'll get the parry up,
Jumps over towards BK's, healing up here, Saitanic, he'll survive.
They're running out of buybacks as this game looks to be over, everybody dead on Liquid, TG's core,
power vision, take this game one, look, it looked pretty impossible, this one for Liquid, they had that one kind of hopeful little bit of a defense,
able to push back a little bit, but outside of that,
They were full of ma in the whole time.
They were. Really clean execution, I would say overall from Power Vision here.
They even forced the issue there. I think the Ravagerate he refreshed when he had 15 seconds left on the first one.
He thought he was the worst to do it.
Yeah overall, I think Power Vision did exactly what their lineup wants him to do.
Caused chaos, assist the mid lane, and that's, I mean, fronted afterwards, right?
You saw how much the no one on the left was able to do.
Notice also had a fantastic time and pretty much, I would say all of it was because of the nicks,
But a lot of this early game, it's got to be in the back of Liquid's mind going into the draft again.
It's the only way they want to play against that, and it's at least no way is Nisha going to want to play Storm against.
And it's being in the game, a 9-class, it's being in the game after that one.
That was a tough one for him, got completely shut down, and I went for Witch Doctor.
I went for Witch Doctor.
Beautiful day here for the Witch Doctor fans out there, maybe.
We'll see some more of the Witch Doctor come through in this draft because it's an addictive area.
You play it once, you want to play it again, and you didn't even get to do the agonist stream.
This was a game where if you're the witch doctor, you're kind of hoping for a bit of a throw,
so it goes 30 minutes longer, you're going to get a blink in the act.
He's going to want to pick it against the next game, we'll see if he does.
Game one, ladies and gentlemen, it goes to Paravision.
100% win rate on the witch doctor, I don't know about that ice build,
but we'll see if we can get it in action in game two.
A lot to break down from this game. One down here with B.S.J. Insanya and Jenkins.
right! Tekken should have solved Fingers Cross. Tekken is pretty much the first game.
Yeah, Fingers Cross here for sure. Really well played by Paravision. I mean, the first, like, 15 minutes of the game where it was a lot closer.
It was just a high-skilled game, like, really good teamfights. You know, we saw some really good action in the mid lane.
Micae showing up on Windranger, getting some clutch kills. You know, Witch Doctor, absolutely popping off.
Yeah, cool stuff from Paravision. Like, flying with Notice, it seems like they've ascended to another level of it.
Like, maybe he's bringing like the good vibes to the team or something like that.
Yeah, when I came into the series, like, prepping for it, I was kind of putting myself in the mind of
Puppy and the side of Paravision and being like, how can...
I feel like Liquid's a bit exploitable with the way that they're drafting right now, and this game was like,
you think of like the most delicious pizza you could ever imagine, and then somebody makes it for you.
makes a pepperoni, and we're gonna go sausage, chicken,
Alfredo sauce, and banana,
because you're gonna speak to Tom.
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna,
I don't think that's great.
No, I think that's good.
I don't think you should do that.
The downside is when you guys do banana pizza,
you also put shrimp and some curry powder on there.
Okay, and I don't know why that's the thing.
Please continue the monologue,
because this is disgusting.
That was a nice little sidetrack there.
No, for me, I saw this draft from Parry,
and I'm like, okay, pizza, perfect, beautiful pizza.
And what I saw with Liquid was they are picking turret heroes.
You talked about claw enabling turret heroes.
So first thing they do is pick a BKB piercing disable
that helps you focus down and makes it very difficult
for these heroes like Windranger during BKB
to actually use their damage output.
Then they pick Kes,
which is a highly contested carry between these two teams.
They almost like bait out the tide,
who's like a traditional counter to Kes.
They give them which doctor has a five that ruins his lane.
They give him a nix who has a built-in break on the ulti, so that makes it so Tide's no longer this frontliner in T-Fights.
Obviously, a killable frontliner.
Literally removed Ace from the game.
It felt like he turned into a blink ravage, and then the guy that's supposed to be killing the people is stunned during the ravage anyways.
Most of the time, it was very hard to follow him up.
And then the last big lash, I just feel like, brought it all together.
I just watched the game and I was like, I feel like on all fronts they had Liquid's number, strategically and execution-wise.
Didn't they pick Storm Spirit into the Nix's assassin?
I-I-I expressed concern about that, because I feel like the new Nix like-
They price released so-
Yeah, the mana board hurts.
Like, if you just hit by the Vendetta, it hurts.
For sure, for sure.
But it also goes like, you know, Nix is also a bag of gold.
That runs around the map, unless he's playing from, like, a strong position.
And I think, in this game, but...
I was surprised that Wyvern and the Windranger managed to shut down the Nix, so well in the early game.
But then the Nix got a couple of trade kills,
and then he goes from like level 3,
Having no lane at all, only been killing creep waves to level 6, at minute 8.
Yeah.
And then suddenly the game is completely flipped on its side.
And I think that's where in the early game, I feel like things were looking pretty stable for both sides.
But for Liquid, I think that's where it really hurt them.
Like when this thing gets solo killed on the Windranger outside the Roshpit.
And he's part of another trade situation where he just gets a bunch of XP and then suddenly he's a hero.
And now Storm can't just zip and kill him on the map every day.
You were talking about a pre-game that is kind of like a battle between Liquid Park, Liquid wants to draw attention to the bottom lane.
Brian, I'm very happy that you are here, but we can't hear you. So you're just here for the eye candy.
But we do have a clip. I'm sure Jankos can also talk about it.
Don't remember what's happening. Oh yeah, this was the zip from Nisha.
It's unusual to see him make a mechanical misplay, but I liked what the caster said.
You're just not used to playing against with Shocker in this meta.
Uh, Dukalis somehow makes this hero look very high skill,
which of course is which character player myself.
It is definitely high skill, but depending on who you ask,
if it's core players, they will say that it isn't bringing the
Nisha into the Roche pit, and then, you know, using the cast as always.
Very nice little play.
What I was trying to say about these clips is that
Aiden mentioned pregame that it was going to be
party vision trying to bring attention to the mid lane
and liquid trying to bring attention to pressuring the Beastmaster bottom.
And notice how all these clips are in the middle lane.
So basically, Parry got exactly what they wanted out of this.
These were the fights that you were talking about, Aiden, that put 9-class back in the game.
He gets that kill on Wyvern, solo XP, level 4 to level 5.
And now he's gonna kill Mika. He literally goes from level 4 to level 6 in 10 seconds.
We've had a lot of conversations about this in the green room, particularly around the greedy enchantment,
And how there are these supports, which is like Nyx or Bane, who don't have a way of farming creeps.
And it feels like farming creeps right now is really strong, even from support, even with the greedy enchantment.
And my feeling is that Nyx is one of the absolute worst heroes to be getting free kills.
Because he has no good way of farming creeps. Like, none at all.
But the feeling for him, if he has gold, is like way higher than other supports.
he can literally run around and like one shot your course. So it's that
it's really risky if you're giving this hero kills early game.
And on top of that, it's the nine class Nick's Assassin, which is already a tier above most teams, most people.
And Pyrovision in this first game was a tier above Team Liquid.
And let's take a look at how many people thought of actually before we do that.
Let's take a look at what the standings are right now before this series finishes
because it is to... can anybody take down the cost?
You're in shooting range there.
Yeah, but I have a strategy that I have to follow.
You're welcome.
And I might be... I might be sabotaged today.
But we'll get to that as we can...
Oh, I did say... I did say...
Yeah, so I had to go liquid.
I did say... because I was close to...
You did follow Aurora.
Yeah, because this is the strat.
I have to always go against Jekyll unless Aurora is playing because he doesn't choose the worst team when Aurora is playing, he always chooses Aurora.
I follow my instinct, no I follow my instinct, I really love Nightfall, he's my favorite guy, so I always go for him, I think it's funny to go for the underdog, so I go for the underdog because that's what my instinct is.
And today, with Liquid Bearvision, I genuinely thought it was so close that I just went with like, what do I like more?
Well, you are still with the majority.
And I like no one. He's a really great guy.
He's an excellent guy.
Super massive guy.
He's a big guy. He's a big guy.
He's strong.
He's strong.
Yeah.
Very strong.
He doesn't need the strongest.
Who says that?
Some.
Oh, that sounds legit.
That sounds really good.
I believe him.
I believe some as well.
This game, he didn't need to be too strong though,
because I felt like the game...
He didn't need to take Teemo's back,
because everybody was carrying their own weight.
Yeah, but I think his hero pick really ramped up the pace of the game.
I think it just synergized perfectly with what the rest of their draft was doing.
So I think no one...
His hero naturally put a lot of pressure on the towers, the objectives around the map,
and I feel like they had a great lineup for turning every single kill
into like a massive objective.
They took the early Roche, the tormentors, the towers, they were all just crumbling,
partially due to that leisure.
Well, we're gonna find out who has a better lineup in game number two,
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We are in the middle of our first series on this stream of the day.
got Paravision and Team Liquid in the playoffs. Winner goes through in the upper bracket. Loser also
goes through but in the lower bracket. So there's a lot of pressure here. Paravision took game number
one of Team Liquid and after that game one, I think the way you guys were talking about it,
it sounded like it was heavily draft related. Is that fair to say? Because there was a lot of
talk about how the one-year-old counts as the other and then they did and Brian you talked about
how they were kind of baited out, like outplayed in the draft, but they were a little bit outplayed also in the game.
I'm saying it was not only the drafters, also the way they executed it.
I feel like the drafters played it into the way they want to play.
I think they were enabled to play their game through the draft.
I think that was like the main thing that they really managed to accomplish here.
Yeah, they like, they, I think they had an idea of what they were going to do coming into it,
and to be able to set yourself up for that at all stages of the game against a team like Team Liquid.
like Team Liquid that is like no small feat.
Yeah, but I will say, I think I like to make a lot of fun of William, but one of his best
qualities as a coach is I think he's very adaptable, and he can look at this game and
be like, alright, I can see what went wrong, this change, and it should work.
I think this is one of his absolute best qualities, and especially this deep into the tournament,
he usually has more data to work with, and has an easier time of finding the solutions.
Statistically, Team Liquid does frequently push series to game 3.
Yeah, and they statistically lose game 1s, so it happens.
I mean, it doesn't take anything away from ParaVision.
I really do believe this stuff that you guys are saying is what it takes to not just get
top four in a tournament.
Like, this is what you have to do to win a tournament.
It has to all come together, and it has to all come together against multiple teams as
well.
Not just we've figured out Liquid, they have to do the same sort of drafting style against
other teams working against the heroes that those teams play.
So it's really cool to see a team do very well on the group stage.
I think everybody had high expectations for ParaVision going into the playoffs, and then
In game one, it's like, okay, these guys are serious business right now.
Well, we are in the draft, our vision is radiant side with second pick.
Team Liquid for a first pick and a giant side.
That's a notice to respect right there.
And Axe has in general been rising in stock a little bit.
Especially against Kez's.
Against Kez, against the Turrets, it's good.
We talked about Liquid enjoying the pick.
That's your safe lane.
The Turrets and Kez.
Curries that do more damage than HP that they have yes, yeah, which way more damage than yeah
I mean as because like his first items are mage slayer deso. It's 6000 gold of no HP literally no HP all damage
So yeah, I think axe axe and Legion will always be worth considering and I think for a very long time now
Why do you say why do you say I'm saying I'm saying that everybody's gonna play Legion come in
I think Axe is better for me.
Against his own will.
But he didn't. He hated it.
Let's get the Legion commander out here boys.
Come on.
There's a hard to fix Legion right now. I won't say a single word for the rest of the game.
There's a reason why Legion is
she's a conceptually bad hero for competitive.
I stand by that. There's too many heroes that counter player.
But there's a reason why this hero has like a 54%
wonder rate in pubs for like the last year.
Because she is good against what's good right now.
It's just, it's a hero that
conceptually is just far inferior to Axe.
inferior to axe the fact that's what I wish you you have a taunt that's on a 60
second cooldown that you like that's your entire kin while axe has a 12 second
cooldown taunt that matches your blink dagger pull down right I'm absolutely
shocked why didn't they pick Legion commander oh me too now I told me they
were gonna pick Legion commander and now they picked timber saw much better here
only solution left in the pool what do you think about timber saw first case
because in theory you can take through all of the stuff but because it's also
like a natural mage layer fire and he does so much damage that before you
get stacks, at least on previous packs before you get stacks, Kess can actually kill you.
But Kess is like a hero that kills you with the lingering damage, doesn't he?
Like, it's after he's hit you ten times that you're like kicking out.
Maybe not ten times, like a Q will do a lot of damage to Timber.
Slowly to come down through the region.
Now, I'm saying this, when the patch was that Timbers were going QW and the passive wasn't very good,
that has changed. It got buffed, people are going at least two points in the passive and building tanky.
So I would wager that if their first phase picking Timber against Kez
It's because they've played in pubs. They've done the math. It must work
I think it's like this so for party you're looking for two things
You're looking for a good matchup into Kez absolutely
But you're also looking for a hero that can kind of soak up the lane and be left for me too
Yeah
I think it's quite important to the way that they want to pick my class and it's quite important to have their overall strategy of beating liquids
Gonna come to that's true. They want to pressure mid. They don't want to be forced to play in
this bottom lane and for that to be the case they need to have a solid laner
a hero that can like sustain himself manage to get through that first 10
minutes and timbers a great option for that I think like they're not looking at
what can we smash kez with they're looking at what can we like kind of trade
this lane up and I think we saw plight on their last game it didn't look very good
and they might be afraid of like getting like the same answer that they saw last
time so they thought this is like a better answer I did look at timbers
There's changes in 7.41c. I knew he got buffed, but it's crazy. He got base int, base damage, and regen on his passive.
Like, they made his laning stage way all better.
Every time historically, the passive got better, Timber became good. Every time the passive got nerfed, Timber became sad.
And the base damage definitely helps. It means you're not constantly spamming spells, which by the way, spells suck ass in the early levels.
They scale to be, like, better than they were before, but they're so weak until you level them.
So being able to just CS with your right flicks, it's a really big deal.
I feel like, like, Glitch or something is like super nice to...
...speal the witch doctor.
No, I like Glitch. I think Glitch has a very natural, like, simple way of answering cookies.
It's a decent hero against Timber, if you manage to lock him down, you have a lot of magic damage to burst him with.
It's a nasty Rubik's Game, though.
Rubik's against Timber's always good.
It's alive.
from murders him yeah and stealing the mines on techies to is some of the most
fun you can have in the video game and fun is very important fun is very important
great there's the lich maybe not too surprising so I actually found it kind
of interesting they banned up the bliver I think they played it off gaming is
because I guess they think it's like a very hard matchup to play and all of
It's a lot of 9-class respect, right?
Wisp is like his guy, I think he's been tearing it up in pubs for a while now.
Going to kind of like core items.
There's Caudals, also his guy.
And what's kind of cool about these heroes is they're very game-defining heroes.
Like they're Paul's 4 heroes that completely change how you play the game.
And in fact, that seems to be like what fits 9-class, right?
Some sort of hero that changes the dynamic of how the game flows.
Yep.
And he's going back to Nyx, which is a similar hero in that regard.
9 plus, when they do pick him, Caudal, the whole game is based around him.
Yeah, it's just the Caudal game.
Everybody is a Caudal combo on all the lanes.
This is an interesting paper.
Yeah, this is cool.
Yeah, I love Necrophos. He's one of my favorite heroes in all of Dota.
It's funny that he's actually getting played carry mostly.
This current patch, I'm not saying it's for sure for Satanic, but the hero has a really nice build up.
You go like the Radiance Bots, usually like Consecrated Wraps, like...
I think Consecrated Wraps gave him an option that he didn't previously had, where if you needed that mid-game durability item,
that you didn't want to rush the bigger things, then Consecrated Wraps fills that void.
And right now, what I'm seeing for Hari is that their lineup is really bursty.
It's really good before BKBs come out.
You have two really durable guys that are just going to be running at you as cores and then high kill threats supports that will capitalize
On the guy that's just like shoving in lanes and right now team liquid is not looking very bulky themselves
So I would like to see them pick something like a bad rider or a lush racks and bolt like some guy that builds to be tanky
But then also does sustain damage
It's a bit abusive of a
of East's Dirt Pool that they pick Necro like knowing that that's in the pool. I mean, I suppose part of the issue is that
Nix's Assassin is pretty good against Batrider as well. Nix is good against all of these heroes.
They're good against all of these heroes, so it's, once again, very good drafting from
Paravich's side. I mean, I think an easy way to think about Dora at this applies to any draft.
If you want to look at heroes and be like, how do we kill their heroes and how easy is it for us to kill their heroes versus the opposite?
And I feel that right now, if you look at Farry, take any two of their heroes and pair them together.
Like, mix Necro, anything nice.
Necro with Timber, probably hasn't a famished kill anything.
And I think, as long as you can apply that, you are in a very good position.
And then you do the opposite for Liquid, and I think most of the time you're gonna be forced to make three heroes.
Yeah.
At first, I don't know, 15 minutes of the game, right?
It's gonna be hard to kill heroes in a very effective and efficient and a simple manner.
Because the more heroes you need to bring to one spot in order to kill someone, the harder it is to do.
And the harder it's going to be to execute the more information you're giving away. Yeah, more telegraph lanes. Yeah, exactly
And right now for party. I think they have that thing going for them like big time. Oh Largo would have been good
It just in terms of what went to one counters true
There's a lot of value from lich though for sure like you are pretty happy at least having
Something that's doing magic damage to necros something that's doing magic damage to timber
You know, we have seen some pretty crazy chain for us from lich in the last few days where they do big damage if you can pull it off
I think this is also one of the things we mentioned about witch doctor last game and like lich when it's new in the meta
I feel like suddenly chain for us is it's wife. It's really good
Yeah, you would imagine people that have played this game for like 10 plus years been on the pros team have like
10 20 thousand hours in the game. It wouldn't matter
You're just used to playing in slitch and you know how it works, but genuinely it has an impact
I feel like those first couple of games against lich are always like it just look there's another one of those heroes
You disrespected a little bit now all of a sudden you're dead. Yeah
Yeah, so they're banning out on the side of liquid the pock mid counters
Thinking that this is a necro carry. I think every
Every game that I've seen it has been necro carry and when I looked at the stats at that
It was like a couple days ago
It was necro carry every single time like no matter what the team not just with I mean for other teams
as well. Satanic has only played it for ParaVision, but there is always the option of a Necro mid.
I think historically no one did play Necro. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. So we can.
So I think if there is a team that's more prone to potentially putting it mid, it would be them.
Yeah. I think these like kind of older gen midlaners played a bit more.
Have a harder time envisioning like the Zoomers doing it.
Okay, you for sure Necro care against Nistalker. Yeah, she's pretty free.
Yeah. I feel like this Necro is incredibly hard to kill. Like they have a lot of silences on the
liquid slide but like the burst damage from between like pocket and this is like almost non-existent, right?
This has been the I was trying to tell you like this is my big issue with liquids drastery
Suddenly as it feels like Nick is hero is like yeah 80% of their cores damage. Yeah, it's always so much and like
So the thing with rubik is this hero has the potential to deal like so much damage
But it's at the same time. It's always conditional, right? It's conditional on which spell you get
It's conditional on like if you can survive the fight even if you can position yourself and since you're always stealing the opponent's
Bell your damage is coming out after your opponent's damage. You're always like a very reactive
Hero with Rubik so for liquid. I think it's it looks hard to get kills right now
But you can always still go once from Necro. No is an echo
I mean you can but it's like yeah, you're basically waiting for him to go in show himself. Yeah, then you steal the spell. Yeah, so the
You're always reacting essentially and like you can come into fights with the spell pre stolen and obviously what you want to do a lot of the
times
But generally speaking his damages
The variance is high. You never really know what you're gonna get. Yeah, that makes sense
So what is still good against Park that's doing if this necro will be carry as we are expecting right now
There's a lot. There's a lot of anything is fine like if it were another patch. I would say DK
I was thinking DK, but it didn't seem good, but Kunkka is similar.
I like a melee hero that does well, it's beefy.
My thought process was a hero that does well against fucking lane and just undangable.
Nightstalker running out of Kunkka is like, what are you going to do?
Nightstalker running out of DK, same thing.
It also offers you a lot of catch like that you previously didn't have on a hero like
Nightstalker.
Also Xmark still shares vision, right?
Doesn't.
It used to be that if you exfract the NS, you go like this massive thing.
Oh yeah, I think so.
I think it works like that.
Oh, that's an insane counter. That's how hard.
Yeah, so you kind of steal NS's vision.
But even, I mean, I'm just, once again, I go back to damage,
and now there's a Rumbuff on top of it, and like,
if for whatever reason, somebody's called, like, Necro's caught on position,
if he gets Rumbuffed, I feel like there's absolutely no way,
even if the Kez hits him like 20 times, that this guy's gonna die.
But you're not considering the 15th bounce of the chain frost.
I mean, if they get 15 bounces of chain frost on Necro,
But there's like a 2% chance that he might die.
Yeah, right.
Right.
I'm sorry.
I'll go ahead and shoot.
No, I'm just a little worried at this point for Liquid, because we, at the start of this
draft, said, you know, Liquid's very good at forcing out these third games of the series,
but...
We've been wrong before.
It's not an inspiring confidence.
That's fair.
We've been wrong before.
I just have a hard time seeing it right now.
Yeah.
I'm really curious how they plan to lane Ace into Necro, because I don't think you could
just give five minutes of total free farm to a Necro and then go, okay, it's night time now now we're gonna run out of like
And Necro is gonna be
Unkillable by that. I think part of the genius of the Necro pick before I see the game is that it is good against all of
ACE heroes one of you guys said that and I was like, yeah
What what does ace plays just plays the beefy guys that hate laning against Necro
So I think they kind of got forced into this night stock. Yeah, and that's not where ace wants to be
Yeah, if you're playing against like whisper or something
You can't obviously can't do that if you're playing as somebody who even has games on the batter rider if it's in the top 10
You can't do that ace can play it. He doesn't want to though. He's not my guy
He really wants to play the heroes important question previous game. We saw Nisha having a very bad time
He did not have fun on his storm spirit. Does that fire him up in the next game?
Let's say yes. Let's say yes
He's fired up. He's gonna play his puck and he's gonna crush this game of force out of game three or not
We're going to find out via the punch-and-punners!
Here we go, level 1!
We might just get a first blood. We do say Tannick will get the first one
Oh, this could be much more trying to fight into this. They're gonna get away with this
This is rough for liquid double kills for Static. They're trying to fight into the deadcruff of heels. Oh
dear
Well, this is not the way they wanted to start this game to liquid. Oh dear. Oh
another
Well, well, that's that's that's pretty fast and notice
I mean did they just sort of forget they were they just got against the necrophos I walked into this dude knees
They are so they tried to use the night stalker thing. I've seen people do this. You get w level one
It's super strong level one because it's nighttime, right?
But not really this point you got it back. Oh, he didn't get it off initially was the problem if he walks up and gets
Maybe a different case because he gets it off when he's almost dead. They got every spell off
Total disaster
Not the stuff because I've seen this I've seen actually on the opposing when you're playing the nutstucker and you're on the high ground
And they walk and you five-man silence this one. He literally gets it off as like the last ability
So they get rekt satanic up one one or two. You got double kill. Oh
Okay, so if you kill to assist if satanic turning up to the light starting the game on hard mode for liquid
Which already pretends to look like it from the draft like the panel was talking about a very very strong one
That paravigion has been able to step themselves up with and I'm looking at overall for the Kez
You know we saw a Titanic pop off on it last game
It feels like there's a lot of answers for this Kazus game an insane amount in fact
Taser go shroud carapace from reactive armor. Be careful. There's another startup. You might have eyes go
They shouldn't play ball well
Actually, maybe he's not very fired
Oh, he's chilling.
I didn't see if he had blood grade on 9 class.
He was used earlier, of course.
Well, we'll only know what should be a pretty easy lane,
but he was already an easy lane for him.
He was versus the Nightstalker in particular,
and now it's going to be much easier.
He should have complete free farm, and we'll have a bracer on top of everything else.
So now he won't be this, like, brown boot radius.
He'll be brown boot with the bracer.
A fantastic start for him.
And mid lane, no one, of course, getting a kill versus Nisha.
Versus Nisha, this used to be a counter pick matchup versus the puck, for quite some time.
Very good physical damage, his puck is low armor, and in the mid game you can itemize.
I've seen Orcid in the past be the answer to the puck from Kunkos, and I imagine that's what we will see now with him.
Pressure's gonna be on Nisha. You know, he had a bit of a rough game last time on the storm, this time on the puck, but...
It's another one of those heroes that a good Knicks assassin player and I kind of have one of those on Braavids in here
Can cause quite an issue for yeah a counter pick again in the mid lane right last game
He got counter picked as well the left versus the storm
This is also a counter pick matchup
So yeah, we'll see how Nisha in particular indoors because it should be a quite a hard lane for him
And we'll see how that mid game ends up going versus the Knicks
Top lane to do call us plus notice playing together this time around not usually the duo that you see playing together
But no, the reason why right you have taser versus a lich
You have this high armor as well able to trade very effectively versus canister lich with this pecky's timbersaw combo
bottom lane
Should be fine, but they're being kept both of them are so low
It's and this is only gonna continue to get rough proper and rough for right for these two against this necroposin lane
Absolutely three lane for stiff panic might have to see some type of move happen like the lich making a rotation relatively early
I want to see what they do choose to do.
They're ganked. They're quite a beating here.
It doesn't look easy for them.
This is already starting off to look pretty rough pretty early.
On all three lanes.
See what lanes, if they do anything, they'll have to kill.
I mean, you step up, you die, and there's bottom lane right now.
And they're losing creeps.
They have a stacked side-pole, so they deny the entire wave as well.
wave as well. And Nightstalker is a hero that already struggles in early game, oh and he's level 2.
At 5 minutes, use your energy Nightstalker, you want to be able to either
sit in your lane and free farm it or go and kill something in front of you.
He's not going to be able to do that. He's not going to be able to do that.
They will not be scared of this Nightstalker on the first night time.
Pressure on all fronts, we are seeing Mica at the least able to last it up here,
but very low regen and it's a kill threat lane that they have designed with Power Vision,
with this techies as well.
And DeKalus is making early rotations.
It's a 2k lead at 4 minutes.
You do not see this almost every time.
No, not yet.
Definitely not between these two caliber of teams.
No.
It was a tier 1 versus tier 2.
Yeah.
This is liquid.
They had the struggles in game 1.
They're going to have even more here in game 2.
That'll be the start.
I don't know how you recover this.
I mean, it's nice.
We're going to have to see what Ace tries to do.
I don't know. It's not a hero that can go back in jungle either, is the problem, right?
Like, sometimes with like a Beastmaster, you have a bit of a tough lane, you go back, it's kind of whatever, Nightstalker.
You just don't.
Or it's a lot. It's an infinitely slower, I should say, than pretty miserable to do.
And I classless.
Just, uh, getting out of nine here for Boxing.
Just bodying him.
He's got the Healing Lotus as well with the Blood Grenade.
Satanic just ever to fully control the wave and laying on his own in the 1v1 against Ace
no problem.
Farty.
Might be dead here.
Ancient deny, can he get it?
He's gonna try and he will at least be able to deny himself to the ancients.
His courier won't die to the tower too, T2.
Ace level 3 at 5 minutes.
Satanic 5.
Now we have seen these Necrocaries look pretty good.
I've seen some of these Nightstalkers really struggle, especially in this game.
His silence can be kind of effective, but the damage he's going to output, that's probably
the biggest thing, the biggest concern overall for Liquid's draft, like who's going to be
providing damage in this game.
It's probably going to have to be the Kassar I have in game fights.
So, McCain's got to be ahead.
We'll make them work for it, it has a loader's unit.
It's not back up, I mean 9 class is here, so Carlos is having a walk away.
There'll be a further TP in it, it's gonna be from 8.
A very early TP in here from the offlane, it doesn't allow them to kill off to Carlos.
Ideally they'd hope to get 9 class as well, they won't be able to.
The X-March is there for no one to ensure that 9 class gets away.
Honestly I think that's the move that Ace has to make.
I mean, I get involved in killing a support is probably still more than whatever he's getting from being in the bottom
Yeah, it sounds really sad
But like I think that movie might have to make cuz you just can't get anything down bottom
And the creep wave is now coming to his tower so it's not like he lost too much out of that time
Wisdom we'll see how they can test that might have to make heavy rotations on the side of liquid to protect it
This that girl is level six already
Misha does have coil at the ready
Well, off the mark there, 9 class, a boxy. It'll be fine.
Ace having to just watch, just soak experience, not get any last hits.
I'm not much w-w-wait, we're gonna get TD reactions coming in because they do indeed want to stop them from being able to go for the 7 minute wisdom.
They'll get the catch on towards 9 class.
A burst through him. Can they get more of those? Titanic's still a bit of a tricky one.
And that was the-the 4 of them turning up. I mean, they just wanted to do everything they could there, right?
right to push back paravision ensure that they could control this seven-minute wisdom it was a
pretty efficient one from Nisha too i believe is the tail end of the arcane room when he
tps gets the coil so he'll have it up at a pretty fast frequency for the next move in
they do get their shrine who say absolutely needed it notice he is also kind of struggling
not in a similar vein by any means like ace he is level six and he's a hero that can recover much
easier because just go to the jungle, throw some shotguns. You can farm any type of stacks.
Let's go for the Micae, which if you want to get involved as well too, I'm pretty sure it's
going to look to play kind of that farming style and just sit back because we did see
last time Satanic was moving pretty early, right, using the silence versus the storm spirit pretty
pretty effectively too.
Nightclas?
They don't have damage for no one.
They're bringing the Night Stalker.
Can they actually have enough with him, with the coil?
He's gonna have to boat coming down.
I'll dodge it for now.
I shoulda said they dodged it.
I shoulda still catch it on Tanisha.
He's still alive here, no one.
He's all alive if they do.
Okay.
Takes a fair bit, but they will be able to bring down the Kunkka.
Typhoon's not going to be able to get out there, 9-close gets back in, takes the kill out for a turn, he's got stick charges, they'll still be able to find him though, so Liquid grouping up and getting the favourable trade.
I like the heavy ace, you have to do this. You're this far behind, have to try to get anything you can and you do get a big kill. Conqueror will get brought down.
It must mean though that the Necrophosatanic is completely free from. You're not able to do anything about this Radiance timing that's going to come out very early.
He went Maximum Greedville to 4-0-4, not even putting the point to the ult since he hasn't used it.
Nisha!
Night class almost just solo killed him.
If that stun hit, he actually gets the kill. It was super close.
Carapace the orb.
Nisha has to continue being very careful towards the right class.
And I think the other situation there was that Yikoil came back up a fast and I think they expected because the arcane ruined so...
Might have caught no one off guard.
Nice movements with S.O.P.E.
He's going to try and grab a Nuchus Nuchus, just a little bit beefier here with that really
active armor.
Set Taser now.
It's enough.
It is enough again.
Still, I might just be able to get to Colossus as well there as to Colossus trying to help
out.
Ace, making the moves happen, even though he's very behind.
A couple kills.
All because this Nuchus Nuchus is there.
Very nice stuff.
They can't try and slow down power vision elsewhere.
They can't slow down Slaytonic, they can do their best as a team to slow everything else
from power vision down a little bit.
I'd say Aston's probably pretty happy though, right?
Like this was the probably worst situation ever for a Nightstalk on the offlane and he's
actually level 6.
His first night time was not bad at all.
Yeah, he got stuff done.
Not bad at all.
I got this, nice little Suicide 4 will steal the Amp damage
It's going to get coiled, there's a moat stall on the rune
They'll be able to make you pay for that ace again in the right place at the right time
Every time, stop them
We'll go down
There's that radiance, 10 minutes
That's crazy, my god, it's 10.25, we saw 11 minutes from Witsby
Yeah, he's actually able to get the kill on Nisha.
Ooh, no, he's not! The side damage was not enough!
Never mind, I didn't do the maps.
Just enough, he's on Nisha.
I've got those! Mikkei, he will get bored down.
Tons of catch for this game, always with the Conqueror in general.
I'm classed. It's looking for a play here.
It's a 10, because we said, did it use the Reaper already?
I mean, if that class sneaks, he could, I mean, Nisha's farming incredibly well if he does check that area.
Oh, there's no way. Oh, there's no way. No, if he catches Nisha, Nisha is gonna be so done with the game.
He's finishing off the camping time, I think. Oh, my goodness, that would have been, you know, a nightmare as a game one.
Took off at least. Yeah.
Self-restaying up a kill for Satanic. Shield does come out, doesn't matter. Satanic gets the kill, his gold continues.
He's getting very much inflated at 7.3K net worth for 11 minutes in.
And they do not have the greatest heroes in general to kill a Necro
I'm just trying to think as well in these games that we've seen where the Necro has got free farm
Has the Necro ever really lost those games here? The games that we start now
Like you get this sort of stuff. You just it doesn't really lose
I'll take a look at actually let me look at all them because we didn't get to obviously we didn't cast all of them
Like was there a game with an incredibly stacked Necro that lost?
I just think it has to have been right, but we shall see. I'll take a look here
Oxy, he's gonna get caught in the mid.
Now it's time for Zanik to walk sober, take him out.
Another kill here for the Necrophos.
Now Sythe back up in a few seconds as well.
I mean, it's had some pretty ridiculous games.
Yep.
It's had a 66% win rate so far, so...
So when did it lose?
Did it get like just completely dumpstered?
There was one game that PowerVision was able to handle it with an invoker, it looks like.
Looks like and how is it? How's the necris farm? That was a game. So you got a 14 minute radiance
So a little slower a little slower. Yeah, these are four minutes slower than this
I was this crazy timey. So I lost when you get a 14 minute radiance, so
Their draft is also I mean those is for conics and they have pretty strange drafts
We didn't get that profit and necro on the same team. So
Yeah, this it definitely feels like one of the best answers to almost all these off-laners
It is miserable to play off lane versus necrophos, your strength may lay here all like 90% of the time.
So, Satanic, moving.
And the trees is gonna get the setup on a tofu.
Liquid, can they try and fight back here?
I mean, I'm at the nighttime, tofu's still alive, we'll be able to get the chain frost off, regardless.
Still alive, finally Forster will not get the blast off, they managed to get the two supports, can they get more?
He is deep.
Looking over to War State Tannick, Ghost Trap's been used, he has to use the sight to try and hold that mid caper.
State Tannick might be in trouble this time, can he get up another heal? He can't, he killed him off!
Liquid, they might just be able to team-might, though there's the dreamcalls there, on towards no one.
Liquid turned off and get a massive win there, triple kill for Asia.
This guy, he's doing crazy this game. He pretty much gave him the worst lane possible.
The Necrophos turns up the lane against him with a double kill.
And now these 30 minutes in, and he is everywhere and doing everything to get this game back in Liquid's hands.
They dove so hard for the Lich, they don't kill him at the start, he gets chain crossed off.
All of Liquid is there, pretty much at the start of things.
Mikkei coming at a perfect time as well with the mage flare, so reducing the magic damage, poking this Necrow constantly.
Liquid, with a great response in ace, I don't have to give him so much credit, after the
very worst possible charge, he's doing so much for so little of this bang.
He's 12 with the 13 kills for his team on this nice soccer.
Nisha also had a horrible game last time versus the Nyx, this time he's 4-0-7, either
while being counter-mixed.
I can play though, they'll get back on the map, straight over to Worlds, Mikkei, they'll
bring him down.
Paravis are overextending pretty hard there, going for these type of kills in the mid lane,
back up get things back going into their comfort yeah liquid have to be quite
happy about that at least I can't imagine say ten it's gonna be too quick to
rush into the next team fight he's gonna be like I'm gonna go back and hit some
creeps get at least my next time done at least perhaps yeah like the bots don't
really give you any protection so that's absolutely need that for the next
fight Titanic is playing pretty aggressively forward here for total
And there is, there are allies behind.
You'll get him.
But as you say, he has to go pretty far for that.
He's coming in.
Can he get out of range of the sun?
He's gonna go through it all.
He can't.
He's gonna regret that one.
Emerging a big hill.
Can they find another one too?
DeColis does show himself bottom for a second,
puts the ward down.
Should be able to protect this tower.
Nice kills though.
We're good people to get.
a good slowdown onto satanic before he gets that second item to before he gets
the first defensive one nice it's good eyes on the car list
this taser is there
class
miss us something up they know the next there he scouts him walks into the
tower clever move there from the Asia
This game comes out. Orchid's finished up for no one. Nisha has to be careful.
It's Anik. He does get to jump away.
He's gonna start chasing that boxy. They've got the X mark control, so they'll be able to get boxy back and reach.
So, Anik, nice class. Looking for the next catch with the sentries down. Nisha, there's the Orchid.
Can he get out?
Ooh, dude, that was close. Nice one.
Mckay coming in and making sure that the whole move was interrupted there so Nisha gets away.
Great play that's the orchid reveal isn't able to find the grab on to the puck, but they do get the rubic
And lose anybody there on the side of Paravision nice talent
Hey
Why does it even why is there a mile off as well in silence? Yeah, it's very obnoxious to play against 14 to 14
Fixing the situation a little bit a little bit still the necrophos needs a fair bit of fixing
There's a Pharah.
Mabiner head's still here.
3k advantage right now compared to any of the other cores.
Yep, still problems, but niche overall, right?
Laning vs. the Conqueror.
End of the counter-matchup.
Has done pretty decent.
The first Orc could reveal he survives.
As we said Ace.
With an insane type of run-up in this game.
The game...
Definitely going to start to get a little more tricky now that Nunklust does have the bling, though.
He does, because this is where he starts to really come into his element as the next assassin in evil.
They'll find you and get that setup.
You know, Nisha's gotta be super careful now.
And on the watch now for these Nix's assassin movements.
Satanic has been stalled a lot though.
Because you want to buy your shard, right?
Immediately when you can.
Means he still doesn't have the wraps.
They might find him again when he doesn't have the wraps.
See if he's coming in.
So what they can do to stop this,
is to see if he's used to trying to control Nisha.
Once turns up,
Chain Frost bounces,
not gonna continue for now,
but they might still have killed Satanic, he's falling off!
He's alive, can he get away with the shot?
They couldn't quite kill him.
Back up stands up.
They lose the two supports, they might just lose Ace as well.
He's trying to shoot for the treeline, but the blast off from T'Kallis finds him.
X markings the tower, comes into play.
They were ready that time, paravision.
Quick rotations, the rum, I believe comes on top of him too.
Extra bit, just to keep him alive.
That was Liquid trying to find the opportunity right before the Rax come out.
Artnark gonna be able to.
interesting Reaper doesn't get the kill right it just holds Nisha back for a
second I don't think he saw the shield through either so no Reaper stacks it's
still getting very good for him
that's all finished up okay still having pretty decent timings does feel like
he's necessary though I would say to kill satanic in a lot of those yeah
especially now if they can kind of get the coral the silence and then ace and
and Mikkei on top of the Necrophos, even with the Raps, you know, they have a chance of killing him.
Absolutely.
But Mikkei not always wanting to turn up, especially not around like a tier 2 boss.
I'm pretty distant for him to get there at times.
Coloss?
Nice distiller.
We'll get the Mind-Skill as well, Boxie.
He's starting to find some pretty decent steals.
This is one of the best ones you can get at this time, some of these ultimates.
So these remote mines absolutely come into play on these upcoming fights versus the Necro,
with the puck just amping up all the damage there.
And Nisha, he's going for a defensive item versus the Orchid, nearly has the ULTS finished
up, so...
Don't seem like he can catch up, Saltpeh.
Looks like they saw no one.
They saw something here.
Nisha on the other side of the tree line.
I think.
And he's high.
And go for ace.
And they'll have him.
And he's up.
Does minus his strike back and take out nine class.
What do they want to do about this Necropost though?
Pots into trouble.
The TP out from Foxy, but the X mark's back in play.
So drag him back.
Set up another for...
And Statenix to get involved in.
Great catch.
From no one, finds the perfect hero.
Gets that X onto the Nightstalker.
This is one of the strongest things right now versus the Metro.
Coil on Zanossist.
She'll have to quickly break out of it, and they won't be able to chase this.
They're too far away. Up to a 7k lead.
Nighttime...
We'll be going down. They do have Dark Ascension for ACB once they get involved.
The daytime for Paravision, and a BKB soon on the horizon for no one.
So, although he hasn't found the puck, before probably the Eul's is gonna be coming out,
the Orc has good uses versus like a lot of other heroes too, right, versus the Kez in
particular on these supports.
We'll get a quick little pause.
Pyrovision continued to be in a very comfortable position in this game.
three cores continuing to thrive but we are seeing Mikkei he is at least tied with
the you know the cores that you can tie if necrophos is on a different level
that's a tiny very very far ahead here I'm interested in the build up a little bit
I was about to say very interesting but we don't normally have this right not the
AGS this early in the build yeah we literally saw which skip it literally
like he was like an eight-slotted and he didn't buy it yeah I think a lot of them
prefer to normally get the heart online before the AGS to sort of buff up that
benefit from it so yeah interested to see that satanic's approach is to get the
axe a little earlier than some of these other necrophos players right now yeah
trying to think of any like specific I can't really think of any specific
reasoning but I mean it is it is your damage if you feel you're not dying
right you're leaning into the damage aspect of kind of the heart axe combo
before you get the defensive ice element of just having a heart first yeah
and it gives you like it's not just what it gives you it gives you stats right so
I'll take a little bit of stats here and there as well in between things so cool showing his own style
Just another good steal from boxy
None of you's getting out of this one notice. You got a bit greedy there poking around that cliff
The setup once the war stove boot boxy turn with a chain frost but nothing for it to bounce through for now
Look at the silence in on a safe honey
Can they burst him whilst his silence persists and follow up as well with the flaming Rift?
It's close, but they won't quite be able to get it, he's gonna live!
They can't continue to chase him, Satanic will get out, but...
Oh, now's the risky one there, living on the edge.
Only Jost.
A nine-class hill loses life for that.
Gee, he got so close to dying there.
Hundred HP or so, little bailouts, I think a taser and prep to bonus with Astor, and
it was just enough to keep them there.
Liquid, when they're in these defensive postures, absolutely can see the
strength around the night stalker, this long duration silence which is followed up from
another long duration silence, there is quite a bit that they do have to deal with. Three
different silences tripping up satanic for a moment there.
BKB is definitely going to be the big case for Power Mission 2. Perhaps forced an issue
of an objective versus these silences that are getting close to them.
Yeah, BKB's gonna kinda destroy Liquid in terms of Liquid having a chance to kill anyone in these teamfights.
We're gonna be down to the Cairns.
Do they want it? Now that it's daytime, there's no Dark Ascension.
Do they want to force some type of just objective flight, maybe go for Tormentor?
They don't kill it the fastest, but they do it safe with the Necro.
Let's see what the choice is gonna be from Paravision during this daytime.
On cost.
Compton Call is coming in as well.
Should have!
I'm gonna run with the blast off.
My class continued to do what he does on this mix.
And for liquid, some downtime, right?
Probably just having to wait for farm a little bit here
until either Dark Ascension comes back up in 40 seconds.
Looks like they are starting to make the way toward that torment there,
so we'll be able to do it with the heals of the Necro.
Call us.
Careful.
Tofu kinda trying to sneak, but no one was in the area to stop them.
He gets the shot, he's gonna go the way of nine glass.
He gets it again, the dream.
A very good one to bypass as well and find, you know, Nightstalker.
Because you can just run up the cliff and chase him too.
I also see he's going for the distiller.
I was waiting to see if someone was gonna buy it first of the Nightstalker since it
gives you shared vision.
So just getting zoes, but yeah, when he's trying to weave in and out of the trees.
And you see the huge AOE, because you see everything he sees as well when you throw that distiller on him.
It's one of the best items in the game that you can purchase versus NS early.
Speaking of the NS, Ace, BKB is done, Dark Ascension's available. They also have BKB on Kaz.
Siv look with Lux for a timing here with these together.
I mean, at least they definitely will try and look to fight around the road.
I guess there's not the Paravision enemy super likely to go into the pitch,
They just don't really kill objectives that quickly.
They kill them pretty safely with the sustain that they have, but the damage on them is not too crazy.
We're going to see the sort of smoke up now.
They have timing also.
See if no one can get the catch or at least, you know, force out a BKB.
Yeah, they have double BKB on the two tanky cores.
Ducalus also has the glimmer cape to protect.
And the axe, it is done.
Nine class.
He's going to spot this whole plant.
Oh my goodness, you got the angle of the three-man stun and a re-pasturized straight down on a waltz him!
That's Nisha, how?
What a beauty.
I mean, he made that look easy, nine-class. Just stands there, gets a three-man stun.
Alistar.
You can't forget the nine classes in the game as an X-Assassin if you're liquid. You really can't because he's going to trip you up like that.
I can't believe they didn't ban it. We were mentioning...
Can't believe they didn't ban the X-Assassin in the green room.
He gets the three-man stun. Nisha was actually having a pretty good game until that point too.
that point too. I mean the smoke just spells. I was gonna say getting caught like that is
that's it you know that's it's right it's simply rough you kind of struggle to find excuses for
that one that was a bit rough because they have the thing is too right they have multiple heroes
that can stop him from doing this they have instant disabled they have lift and sinister
games which are non-damage abilities versus heroes but they just were brought into the
the back line so I they just got caught off guard completely and that cannot
happen when you're giving this to nine-class I just want to say turning
now he's chilling he's gonna give the players for the timing to get the BKB
online and they didn't even have to use their BKBs because they just killed
everybody immediately and that was liquid with their BKB timing fight
getting absolutely nothing our vision came in with some very nice
preparation it's absolutely so showing in these two games nine-class the
distiller is done now very quickly after the moment
the liquid just try for that again they go well didn't go too great we'll go for
another spot now it's his age just so I don't know because that was them I mean
that was their timing five BKB's and it went absolutely cool so
not sure what the next timing is gonna be perhaps we're trying to catch them off
guard but as you've seen power vision is not the ones being caught off guard it's
liquid it's not too much
It can be for satanic so hard to see how they can bring him down now level 21 as well three levels over his counterpart
They did decent at least at recovering things after the miserable starting case
Every single time
Yeah, that was rough. I mean in those situations the fact that he's getting the chance to get the vendetta hit off into the stun
Is there a kind of a world where liquid they have to now be like if I'm getting vendetta'd I got ins to be KV
It's like we just times. Yeah, it's so fast it comes out
He's so good at being able to land those
Very difficult it's not one of the hardest entries into this game and now paravision starting to truly just take over
And I class again, we're gonna already stalking the dad up at the ready. Oh, yeah, there he goes box
He just put extra century down
Even though I already had a say he was that scared and look nine classy forces one two centuries one two three TPs
And just walk away
He's going to catch on to Nisha, VKB's will come out ace, who can he find, he's going
to try and go for no one but the boat's already out down on a tofu.
And Satanic is ready to join him from the side, tofu's gone.
Nisha, he jumped in.
Ah, could he jump back out, the mines are down, he will get the chance to blink away.
So Nisha will live but the rest of Liquid aren't having a whole lot of fun with this
Necrophos chasing them down. He's just walking at them. They have to just get out of it.
The boxy. He's not going to get the chance to, yeah, Chakram comes in.
They killed Ninecloth. At least they got that pesky pesky Nix assassin. They couldn't get anything
else. No, no one able to just distance himself from away. Nisha almost finished him. It was
actually quite close, but not able to. Nisha had to jump away, otherwise he'll just die.
Titanic is literally untouchable.
Hey this hero, I mean it's been insane right now it's going to be a 70% win rate if I'm not mistaken.
Exactly, the stats back, good yeah.
It was 66% before this game with 9 games though.
So many times it just completely take over the game right?
It does.
And this game as well, you know, say Titanic, he did have a couple of deaths but we're kind of, you know, him getting a bit too ahead of himself.
It just, it didn't matter though.
It did not matter those two rough deaths this game did not get slowed down because the thing is the hero farms so fast
So even if you do die you gotta mess up and still be okay
Farms editing the same case and the pressure really on all fronts just paravision. Yep
Playing this draft quite beautifully
Couldn't have asked for a better start noticed a full she was now for him
How do you take a fight?
I'll drop the Chain Frost.
Now the X mark's now on to him.
He's gone.
Chain Frost, of course, being one of the higher damage spells in the game, but when you're
this far behind, they have lots of ways to play around it.
We'll be able to X his buddy back, so Timber doesn't have to fully go back to base.
Can't look too reset.
Nisha? Show them some support with the orb. They might try to go for the play here.
Knight class knows there's vision in the area.
I love you.
Come on, get caught out with the push. It's coming in onto the tier 2 top.
Liquid, they're trying to farm for these next items, but as we said, the timing for them was around that
BKB, and they're just completely caught, and I think it's gonna try and fight him.
It's gonna wall's no test, but notice, got the BKB in the ready, Ace is gonna jump over towards the back lines,
he's found nine class, he wants to digs, assassin for nine class, he's out of the range of the silence, he's gonna be fine!
That's just beating.
The Coyle's gonna get dropped down, the State Tanks happening, they able to just down this ground,
even though he's Coyle, he doesn't care, Scythe comes down onto Ace, Ace goes down, they really want to kill this Pimba Stomp,
but they just can't notice surviving, boxy at the tip of the chain away,
but he dies to the damage that's being burnt out by this necrophos.
Double kill for Static.
They will finally kill notice,
but overall it's just going to be Static cleaning up again.
Triple kill for him.
They can't touch him.
He literally is untouchable.
Very close to his 25 now, up to the back of that fight.
And Ace, he tries to jump backline, tries to kill the next assassin, but he just pops the Vendetta in between, gets a disengage.
Even the Techies almost is able to disengage and get out too.
Great defensive play coming up, a paravision.
And so, Tanya, you can just keep walking down the lanes.
Nothing scares him right now.
Even if he, I think even if he's full isolated at this point, he just survives.
This much HP regen with the BKB at the ready.
And I class continue to be pesky always stalking Nisha. His bombs in the area
Put a damage from these
Release some of the sections for the football telekinesis on top so Nisha will be safe
And I can box too
Time for start running even faster at them jumping on top of his allies
Nice play there from little little play from Nisha boxy at least to protect him
25 has been hit. See which one he takes, because Wits has been taking it the right.
He takes actually all opposite ones as Wits that I've seen, except for the 10 Talon.
So pretty interesting. And different with the build as well, right?
Yep, Wits doesn't get the axe early. Yeah, Wits took the whole heal, and he took the regen reduction,
and then he took the re-precise damage missing both games that I saw.
Both games, the Necroforce, absolutely crushing. It's just showing the versatility of this hero.
Mhm. Nisha being stalked again.
Bosh two.
It's enough, I thought.
It also feels like the perfect fit with this team,
because they play these heroes like Nix, right?
It just feels like it does do so much when he's able to go for boots to travel eventually.
There's constant map pressure, constant map information.
Looking, uh, looking rough.
Yeah, for liquid. Not...
Not an easy day for them.
Today does seem that
The approach that they turned up with today against paravision
Didn't seem to be the approach well now and this game in particular right started on hard mode
Perhaps from the trap but also from the level one play
Tower see here
Don't even need the ages they can just push forward as he said panic is
until
Can I just walk a bit?
Pose the question to Liquid.
What's your answer?
Next, we'll start doing the hunting, because I appreciate they identified Mika is not in
the base, so they can't look to find him on the sides.
They have the bots too.
No Reaper for 20 seconds, but...
Liquid.
Very dangerous place to go into the game.
Gonna go on an ah yes straight away no system, stay tannic, moves up, liquid the pot, the
BKBs are starting to back up, they're at least having to put stay tannic up on the clip.
The 9th class, he's got the yule set up, into the stun, onto A's.
And there's the tannic anyway, bots two are up.
She's got the Reaper at the ready.
She's just gonna go for it onto Boxy.
How can he just at least give him that little bit of safety?
The creeps are pushing him!
Swing over towards the mid-light!
They just jump in right, notice.
He sees them for a split second right on top of their faces.
Causes panic.
Nice paravision, looking to close this one out.
No damage.
Wait, look at that.
It's helpful for liquids, especially at this point.
Unable to touch paravision.
Ah, see, he's uh, living on the airship and um, likely not gonna be living much longer.
As that's boxy gone, Mikkei's gonna try and fight back here with the BKB, he might just
get to Carlos, he does.
Now get A kill, can he get out though?
The BKB comes to an end, and it was 9 glass, 9 glass will also fall, Mikkei kind of doing
it here, can he get more, he's on to notice.
Mikkei, keeping the game alive potentially for Liquid.
Is the Reaper available?
It's not enough damage to kill Mikkei though, Mikkei's fine.
The same tactic as BKB is about to come to an end, Misha's gonna jump forward.
They come in with the damage and the sides don't get him as well.
No one with the controller, no one! Mikkei, go in it!
Oh wow.
Alright.
Mikkei says this game ain't over yet, he's not done with it.
A paravision diving pretty far forward there, ignoring him.
He does end up surviving. Look at the damage he was able to deal.
He literally was completely ignored.
Alright, Mica.
He needs to do insane amount of lifting here.
Can he turn this game around?
He just gave us a pretty good show and he's got a case for it.
He got the flank, right?
He got the backline first, then he comes here.
Starts to build up versus these tanky heroes.
Quite impressive that he's able to do this.
Especially with the BKB used earlier, right?
He did this very nicely.
And we get back into 9th class with this fight.
Cap, this came to an end at this point.
He does have to damage to bring down even the tankier targets and stay tanned as soon as this PKB was gone
You know you knew that they were gonna chase on it
Just not enough burst to quite get in there with a repuss. Oh and they get nine class and now we're getting into them
They're getting your own shot level 25 has been hit through the cares. All right
We will be so in game one liquid did have sort of that little bit of a kickback
They did before they did then inevitably lose the game, but they got a pretty big
Just one hit, pick a rush.
Yeah, I absolutely agree.
It really is.
And they've got at least the glimmers too, right?
Some defensive things they can throw onto Mickey
so he can survive versus the reaper.
Hey, that reaper, right?
Perhaps if it was the right talent,
would it have been enough to kill Mickey?
I don't know how the maps work,
like how much of a difference does it end up being
the 0.3 player HP, right?
Like it would have been close.
Let's have a look.
So he's got the 3K HP, so say it was about 1,500.
So 1,500 times 0.3, that's,
Was he mage-flared?
400...
No, I see what that's.
I mean, it's hard to do the mage-flared too, so...
I mean, either way, whatever.
I would do it.
I think it would've been like 400 more damage.
So, a couple hundred more damage.
I don't think he would've lived.
Yeah, I think he would've still been 5 of the buffs given for his team match, yeah.
He got glimmered too, so...
I mean, this is pretty massive for Luglund.
Being able to do this, deny the Aegis with oil, prevent the push.
Paravision could've maybe just gone for Raxanus, but they went for kills, pushing forward, get punished massively.
That's not a good life, at least for Mikkei.
Of course, the other two cores are still really struggling, but all they really have to do is enable it.
Yeah.
Got no fire for Ace.
They can make the space attack.
Uh...
Oh my god.
Shut up for McCage, well.
It's nice.
Anything you can do to buff them up.
I mean, how much of a shakeup is that for Paravision?
Is it the case of they're like, well, we'll wait until the Aegis is expired before we'll push high ground again?
I think they still...
Or they don't need to be scared of the Aegis.
I think they still play the similar game where 9 classes hunting, looking for the pick offs.
But yeah, I think they'll play a little bit more patient in terms of just recklessly running into high ground versus the Sage just now at this point.
They probably thought that they had the game in the bag, completely.
I think they did.
I think they certainly did.
And Liquid now, gotta be the ones to go all the way up to Grashen.
They gotta be ready to react though, so someone like 9 class, fighting out this monk.
Yeah, that was... I mean, they cannot have that happen again, from earlier.
Let's see what they can get here.
Remember the wrap, Scan's been hit though.
Paraphasion know that something's coming in from this angle.
Ward's placed.
Satanic in the front line.
Do they want to jump the necrophos?
Might as well get this top.
No, look towards notice first.
He has an agonist.
The barrier off for now.
He's shot.
Fall by the silence.
Some protection here with the yule step to satanic.
Trying to move up, but McKay's going to focus towards him first.
Push rounds there.
McKay's falling kind of low, but of course does have the stages.
So he can burst through the once, Mikkei's actually able to get the ult up, live a little longer,
Spike Harapus is there though, that's the Aegis gone out of Mikkei.
They did poke him down pretty effectively.
Liquid.
He's not the one to try and chase on.
Sotanix still has BKB.
They're gonna get the lift up onto him.
He's holding his BKB.
They're chasing pretty far now Liquid, they might have chased a bit too much.
Gonna look to try and turn this to decent shape Frost.
But still the damage will come in and allows him to bring down Tofu.
Bokki is not gonna get to TP out of this.
And nine plus, you've got the Yulestan upon a Mikay!
Mikay will drag himself away, power vision hot on the chase.
They have to run, Nisha also.
We'll be able to get away.
Chase too far there.
All the way to the tier two, end up getting turned on.
Mikay has to be careful how far he chases forward.
Gotta do this defense now without Bogsy dead for a minute, no.
Pry back on the ruby.
Instant smoke.
No one.
Boat at the run in ten seconds.
Okay, back for the buildings.
2 heroes killed. Still whatever they can here. Trying to hold paravision back.
And they're in. Ace is going to try and commit straight away over towards the Necrophos.
If they can burst through the side it's not into him. They can't even be scorned!
No BKB.
Can Mcki get out. BKB comes to an end.
The Necrophos gone. That's a pretty big fear of them eliminated.
Okay, but that's not it, that's what it is, he gets creeped up and we get the ULTZ off!
Miki is cleaning up!
He's not ever to jump out though, the timing there was perfect for 9 class landing the
stem as he came down.
But Miki, immediately one-shotting two heroes.
He wants to get this gem picked up, he wants us to be able to get back in and get that.
And Miki, truly delivering the damage there.
Tofu?
Tofu?
Tofu?
Tofu?
Tofu?
Tofu?
Tofu?
Tofu?
Tofu?
Tofu?
He's got the Glimmer, he's going to, oh maybe he can survive with the help of Mikkei and Mikkei!
Clumsden and make sure the 12-room whilst he may die!
Mikkei's gonna make them pay for it!
There's gonna be the TP out front notice, he'll get out with the BKB!
Mikkei, clean up 9-clots!
This Kaz is starting to really dish out the damage.
He's carrying hard here, Mikkei.
And so Tannik, he did spend his gold before that fight.
I think maybe they were perhaps thinking about some type of buyback play, but did not have the gold for it.
He is doing insane work right now. He has to spend his gold, goes for the full satanic, buys out the aggs,
starting to have more and more survivability. This is very impressive that Liquid's been able to do this.
Yeah, absolutely. Considering how far behind they were, the fact now that Micae's only 3k behind that at the farm of satanix Necrophos,
he is doing everything here on the gas.
He absolutely can do it.
Whenever this hero does get to these points, you just see, I mean, no one, I think he got like an effectively one shot.
I couldn't believe how fast he died on a conco there.
Even with the AC, just got shredded.
Look at that. Look at how quick the damage went out too.
Yeah, massive amounts of burst here on the Echo Slash.
I'm looking much more difficult now for Paravis, just straight up close things out.
Can have to be a bit more careful about how they consider the next play.
to perhaps think about how they want to protect Satanic.
If he doesn't have BKB, right,
they have to have something at the ready
to get him out of the nullifier,
to get him out of the spear from the night stalker,
get him right on top of them.
I didn't see if they were going for any,
like Wind Waker or anything, but...
Nanklas?
He's gonna get that, so that's why we try to...
One of the best to kill him.
He's got one more flare.
He is?
Yeah, okay, they were thinking about bringing Satanic up.
One more flare.
And indeed, Nanklas says,
Don't worry, Static. You don't need to join me. I've got this on my own.
That's why Distiller is such a damn good item, especially on these heroes.
Love it on the Rubik and the Knicks. Just having that Byzantine, this Eel Nuke, etc. Absolutely seeing how good it is.
There's a minute without Tofu, and he has been quite a big part of getting the damage done, at least to kind of eliminate one hero from the fight with the Chain Cross plays, so...
Liquid still does need every little thing to come together for them.
They have vision they know it so whilst there's no glitch in the game
They'll be quick to try and poke it
Have a hex what I'm laying never hacks into colors. This could be a game ending hacks if they get the cat on Mickey
Could be very abrupt on Tunisia, okay, just showing
There's the hex they have the follow-up they do into the star but the telegeist is coming there to drag it back to safety
Great save from Boxing. Dreamcourt down on towards Satanic.
The boat.
A bit cautious still. Is the BKB ready to press?
They're trying to poke it.
See what Mika wants to go for.
It's going to look towards Nautis. It's the science on to him.
Now they turn towards the Necropos. Now the fire down on to Mika.
He's trying to commit on towards the Satanic Necropos,
but he's able to pull himself away with the Shrek.
Mika taking huge buzz, but is the BKB off?
He'll be able to take down Nautis with the Echo slashes.
Three dead.
No one super close to getting hit there holding nicely a liquid again the racks
not even being able to get claimed a great defensive lift there from boxy
knowing that they might go for the all in on to Mickey there is able to reset a
bit of a chance now maybe for liquid to push back so power vision side of the
map ace now having an AC right all looking at all these things to pop up
make an ax on tofu and he finds an ant damage
oh i was looking at nine classes items a bit interesting but i don't know i think he's gonna fall like a heart or something on his next exercise
okay that's definitely weird what's uh what's the tech there
i don't know i think they thought that they were gonna be causing the game and now he has an awkward item in his inventory but
liquid hitting the tier two
Well they put the BKB there at the same time. Was that a threat or was that a misclick?
That's really dangerous too, 97. They don't know it, but if they do get the jump on him they could just 100 to zero him now too.
Paravision with some pretty big flip-ups in this game, Liquid taking advantage of it beautifully with Mickey.
Mickey continued to spend the gold out, looking for the Lincoln snacks to potentially catch off guard, blocking a hex or a reaper.
It's not a finished.
No more mage slayer for him though, so quite a bit more magic damage is gonna be dealt to him in the fights. He's not careful
But that next timing now power vision absolutely have to think about that Roshan after these last two comebacks from liquid
Have to be very careful in this area
Did also see no one almost level 25, so I did see that tide bringer and he's 25 that
tide bringer also make it does have to be slightly cautious of it did chunk him down
and that's true that last fight a lot he did get burst pretty long I was like oh my god
I thought it might actually kill himself those have to be super careful still has to play
pretty perfect on Mikkei. Nice last. This up.
Nice move he actually can get out of me, but see straight away a lot of damage.
Jason's gonna put the ult in for the jump, but he gets caught by the heck straight away.
Ult him back a little bit. It's a BKB, who's the Paul?
Top ult.
Got to get the time there with the chain frost coming down as well as the spy,
and that's gonna be noticed. Go on, stay tight. He has to put the BKB and run,
but Mikkei's on top of it.
He's dead, he's focusing down the Necrofost.
Glimmer will buy a little safe seat for Static, allows him to get away from Mikkei.
No, it just comes straight away and with the buyback, the burst and the Echo Slash cut through to Carlos.
Because Mikkei's dead, the guard of Panic's gone.
He gets killed off, the damage too much right now from this Kez for Paraphezion to deal with.
And they burst him, they cannot. Mikkei's perfectly fine, double kill for the Kez.
Notice he bought back for this play.
play!
Static buying bastard!
Gonna be the big buybacks coming in from Paravision, they have to just bail out of Illiquid
if they can get everybody out, they're gonna be very happy with this one!
Oh, Micke gets the blink out as well.
So many buybacks use Paravision, they're getting outplayed.
They really are.
Beautiful pull from Tofu, Chain Frost onto two, while Micke comes in and gets the clean
up, they have to use the BKB super early and defensively, such a turn around, such a come
back here from Illiquid, I mean, it does seem to be a bit of a liquid thing, we've seen
it before it is the first series of the day like the first game sometimes not
too great that game to can be a little rough until until they let and until
they kind of would have turned around like this it was all right liquid there
took him up at a time but they're turning up and it took and they're taking
advantage of a bit of these pretty big flip-flops from Paravision going for the
dive play earlier but also your ninth class his items just look I don't know
this is so weird that he's gone for this now it actually really hurts he's got a
heart recipe ring a terrorist you know what I mean like this is just
strange at this point now. I mean if one of the best nix assassins is by and hard
in the world is by and hard maybe I've got to stop by and hard on my nix assassins.
I think it was because he was so far ahead. He was thinking with the carapace kind of plays
but now it's all looking very dangerous. This is liquid.
They get by far the strongest here on the map now and they're going to get another
Roshan after all these two crazy damage in these fights. And they just can't control it.
They can't knock him down. He's all over the place.
Everyone's started to pick up so much gold that they all have ways to disrupt
Paravision and it allows Mickey to run rampant in the fights beyond gods like now
And a hex also for bosses, I got it
It has been a 20 something thousand gold swing
They can absolutely see the frustration on Paravision and the happiness for Nisha. Yeah
out. Insane recovery. One of the most insane drops on a graph I think we've seen in quite
some time. They even give the Aegis to Nisha, so Mika feeling like he's probably just going
to survive has a cheese as well. I mean, will he get the chance to finish it off on the
I mean he's gonna buy it too. I guess he is just gonna buy it because it's made it for him.
I mean it's probably his bill too, you know, it's like...
I mean it's definitely one of his bills that you hope your allies aren't clicking on you, it's like...
Nobody noticed that I'm building a heart, please.
But yeah, the game definitely falling into a place that Paravision I think we're not expecting.
No, no, it's... I mean now they're the ones that's actually just effectively behind.
Not because of the gold or anything like that, but just how their heroes function,
versus a Kaz and versus a Puck.
Things have completely changed and instead the supports they're massive on the side of liquid now
So execution for paravision has to just be better than liquid now at this point for them to have a chance first in this case
You can see the way that they're trapped in the base too
They did use a lot of buybacks in that last situation so the game could just end they make one more mistake on paravision now
I'm sure so many people are watching being like this,
I'm a KES hero, how does he do this from this step of deficit?
But it has been all of liquid rallied around him, we said he needed to do the damage and
somehow he was able to.
Yeah, yeah, Micah is uh, he was never worried this game, you know, he's like, guys it's fine
We'll be okay. I don't know about it. That's why he's telling them and you know what maybe maybe he would have been right
It's looking good friend tofu now having a refresher shard, too
So they effectively have that double blue hole as well that can come out from the lich for the cancer just annihilate everybody
Here we go, smoke.
There are a lot of bombs, so do have to be cautious of that.
But if they do get one of these big kills, they're going to have a massive number advantage.
Here we go.
Another hex picks up my paravis.
No, it just has one as well.
And Mikkei, he does not have the Aegis to that, so...
Jump forward.
They get a Hex when the Night Gloss, Night Gloss, he's dead immediately!
80 seconds.
They kill him up, but they do get a Hex when the Mikkei return!
He's gonna be up in the air, we'll have to put the Mikkei be draggin' stuff away, he'll get out.
He has to back off the point.
The next city gate is comin' in though for Tophon and the three of them.
The Hex is there in return, they're on towards the leech, Tophon will fall.
He's shooting the trees, Mikkei coming back in over the wall, two of them.
Pick up the kill leader, the big kill, take him out of the game.
He's been trying to go on two minutes without buyback.
They've got it Owen.
They absolutely have a liquid.
They might have looked a little sloppy in game one and then at the start of game two,
but BAM!
When they were ready to bring in the comeback this game,
my goodness they bought in the comeback.
This game is over.
Gigi is called liquid and pushing this to the game three.
And it's going to be a bit of a rough loss there for Paralyzing.
Probably feeling so good in this game, diving toward the base, end up just getting wiped by a kez.
And did he get his heart?
He did, but after he died.
Well, you know, at least it looks better than just a heart recipe on the next game.
Yeah, no one in... I mean, they're talking about it right now for sure, because this was their game to lose.
And Liquid just took advantage of the mistakes in space.
That was quite something there from Liquid.
They look pretty frustrated in that zone. I'd imagine so too.
So I have to shake it off reset going to this next one because liquid they started this game in a dreadful position
It's more recovering. Yeah, you came dreadful again, and then made probably one of the biggest recoveries
We've seen in this tournament
Yeah, what what a come like what a gun as you say we were still on the camera
Paravision like going into the game three that they got a really reset right? Oh, yeah
It's gonna be a rough trajectory coming in from a loss like this going in the game three
and Liquid, you know, they're absolutely gonna be on the up, you know, they managed to get for a round game.
As you said, the start of game two, they were able to hold things together mentally.
In terms of the gameplay, it didn't look like they were crumbling, it didn't look like they were gonna get too owed,
but then, bam, they had that perfect defence around Mikkei on the cares.
I bet he was telling the boys that he had no faith in this game, he knew that he was gonna be able to do it.
He was like, look at this Necrophos, it's fine, it doesn't matter, I want a cares, I'm gonna be able to do it.
how to do it. What a game. What a game. Game 3, can't wait. Liquid. Get the second game.
It's one for one right now between Liquid and ParaVision.
That was quite a comeback there, Jenkins. It was. I'm just watering some plants with
my liquid. Is Liquid doing it? Liquid is definitely doing it here. Definitely looking
lot more a lot more hydrated I feel hydrated after that game Jenkins cuz
uh you know we're all talking about how free of a game that was for party vision
and it looked like that can we talk about necros 30 minutes we talk about
the the elephant in the room yeah sure what is going on with the late game
Necrofus. You know I said it to you. I said Brian brah brah. Mahbo. I said that and I said
what is it when our teams going to start respecting this hero not only every game is it getting
through but when it does well it's 10k ahead of the enemy carry. He was like 28k network
to like 15k next. That's pretty crazy and also you were mentioning because Quinn plays
a lot of necroding is in the green room. You were mentioning that you think that Witt's
from playtime goes for the 25 talent that's all about the Reaper's scythe damage. And
I could see how in the late game it would be like a better way to scale because these
times where Ikez gets his satanic off or not. That sounds confusing with the name, but it's
really confusing because he's satanic.
Nick A uses the item that heals you a bunch on carry before the necrofo scythe kills him.
Yeah, I feel like those are the times where it would have actually been making a difference. Yeah, it's definitely like the first person
I saw to that was abusing the
Scythe talent at level 25 was DM
He went for a refresher orb and I swear to God dude
You have heroes that are 20% HP down and you're just Scythe for fresher site them. They're dead like late game if someone
Bought back. It's over like you can just insta kill them if it feels really overpowered
I personally believe it depends on the late game like do you want to play more around burst or do you want to play more on healing?
You know, obviously they were going high ground. So they felt like they could heal and just
Pressure the high ground like it felt like the game felt really stable didn't feel like they needed to burst anybody like that
but it's just a
little
Disrespectful, I would say of the surroundings. It's a little disrespectful and
and destructive, if you will.
I feel like people were trying to do their own thing and just, like, exist in the game.
Yeah.
There's people around them that are playing a completely different game.
For sure.
At the same time.
For sure.
Which is something that they can fall victim to on the side of Paravision.
Yeah.
Because it's a lot of really high skilled people with a lot of their own individual ideas.
And Satanic in particular, like, he views himself as, and you could tell this,
this as the young prodigy, right? And he has his own ideas and nobody can't look skilled
as him. Maybe barring like Micae Gatoros. It's a very small list, right? And he knows
that. And you know that he knows that. And sometimes it can result in these. I remember
when Estini was coaching the team, he would always joke like, there's always one throw,
right? Yeah. There's always a lot of throwing that happens. Sometimes you got to pass the
Sometimes the ball gets passed around for sure and I mean in this in this game
We're talking a lot about paravision obviously liquid
This is what they do. This is their bread and butter, especially this iteration. They got a lot better
Since the TI when I would say
Like they have never looked better than they're looking right now
Yeah, I think they kind of got rid of some dead weight during after the after the TI win
I think so, too.
That's a- it's not true. I mean, they look good. They do look good.
This was just a classic liquid comeback, like, the Mickey Magic, you know,
Kesley game, like, you can see why people rate him so highly on the tier list of Kesley's.
I mean, if there's one team that can manage to, like, win a game from nowhere,
especially while you're at, like, all distractions, they just ignore him.
Yeah, exactly.
They just win the game.
Yeah, you're focused on the task at hand, which is usually, like,
Combs making sure you're focused on I can't even try to keep this comps going, but what like that's what they say
That's what they say like because there's so many distractions going on during the game
But they are like the one thing we have to do right now
It's focused on the hopes and the goal on kicking kicking the ball through the need to be able to communicate when there's all this
Chaos going on around you. Yeah, you have to be able to ignore it and just focus on what's the most important thing
Which is definitely the communication
To have any sort of combat, this has to happen.
Yeah, and I will say...
If you do that in a game where you're that behind, it's even more impressive.
I think it's started with that failed dive by parry vision at like 8, like 12, 13 minutes in.
Which you're very tempted to do as Necrophos, by the way.
This is what the hero likes to do. You feel invulnerable to the towers, and you are, but your team isn't.
Yeah.
That's the problem.
Sometimes you go a little bit too deep with Necrophos earlier.
Yeah.
You have that one, it's like every carry has that moment where you go back and kill up a BKB
because you died once in a way you shouldn't have died, but Necrophos has that just by default
regardless of items because you run up their heroes, you feel really strong, you overextend.
We've all been there.
Yeah, the thing is, you overextend, sometimes you throw against the nullifier for Necrow
and BKB only having one charge now that you can't use the refresher.
You do want a refresher on Necrow, but it doesn't give you that second BKB for the nullifier
Which in some cases is okay, but it gets Kez who does an overwhelming amount of damage
It is insane how much damage this little bird does in the lake
Dude Timbersaw with Axe was dying. I don't think I've ever seen that before
He fell off big time, genuinely. Like I'm not sure what the build needed to be for like Blink Hacks or something like that
I mean, I feel like there's just some threshold in that game where like you could either kill the necrophos, punka, timbersaw, tricor
Like you kill one of them you kind of kill the other two
Yeah, you either can kill all of them or none of them
Yeah, right because it kind of spills into the next one and at the point where notice was no longer able to
Face tank the damage. It just felt like the like the nullifier from Nightstalker plus Kaz
He was just evaporating you through BKB as well. Yeah
It's been a while since we've seen timber in the meadow, so
Yeah, it's hard to say like what exactly is the late game build that makes him work
that makes him strong. Like I said, maybe the alternative is Blink Hex,
then you're just playing like first people. It feels worse to do that now
that there's not the second shot from. Alright, that's part of the issue. I do
think in that specific game though, they even 9 class maybe kind of a joke was going for a heart attack.
Wraith, writh, writh, writh Wraith, writh, writh, writh
There were four limes, been up down, I blame myself
There's no doubt that I come now and know to what we've felt
Pulling, pushing, holding on for something The bitter sky is coming and we're still here
Oh, I feel the love, yeah, I feel the love
It's something we're gonna need to understand
Oh, I feel the love, yeah, I feel the love
Let's just go know we don't need a plan
Cause I feel the love
Cause I feel the love
We can win, we can win, we can win
The limbo shank
I've been on horse again
The blue sky is coming
We're still here
Oh, I feel the love
Yeah, I feel the love
It's something we don't need to understand
Oh, I feel the love
Yeah, I feel the love
Let's just go, no we don't need to cry
Cause I'm FIFTY LAND
Cause I'm FIFTY LAND
FIFTY LAND
Yeah, I feel love
It's something we don't need to understand
Oh, I feel the love
Yeah, I feel love
Let's just go know we don't need a plan
Cause I feel the love
I've got a feeling of the things I've got to want to do
You bring the stars, I've got the station, I've got a feeling of the things I've got to want to do
I've got so much to think in, but I'm crazy but you're wrong
Feelin' as if you're just standing there
Don't think I'm dreamin'
You're starting to sleep
With us all alone
And all of the things you've got through my mind
Every single day is, just feelin' so right
If you know they can't be wrong
It's not easy love
It's not easy love
I'll say it if we don't
No, no, no, no
That's not what you thinkin'
But I'm crazy, but you're wrong
What the hell's the start of the game, you guys?
C'mon!
Something can dream
Cause when you wake up for so long
And you're all I've got, you'll go through the night
And there's some things
That must be a sign
You won't make it no more
It's a big deal, love
It's a big deal, love
You're picking on
It's a big deal, love
Yeah, it's a big deal, love
Come back! You are watching Dream League, season 29, and we are in the middle of a series in the playoffs.
In the upper bracket, one of these teams will drop to the lower bracket.
We got Paravision and Team Liquid and the score is tied, which is very unlike what we predicted in the second game.
Yeah, I mean, I think the draft kind of did play out, but you could tell like at some point,
party
Two things I think one this wasn't super comfortable for them
You can tell by watching them play it. This was not like as comfortable as game one purely like how they
Player hero matchups, whatever they didn't feel as good and I think they got overconfident
They felt like we are actually just purely unkillable and that is true as long as you stay within your limits, right?
But they like a little bit too far. There was a couple of teamfights where they like
kind of just I don't know
I think they overestimated their strength and
Throw it away and liquid is like this is the cool thing with tier one teams
You give them a chance and they'll take it like all the way down and that's cool. See I've learned that against
Kez there's never unkillable like that state just doesn't
Get reached there's always potential for him to come back
Especially when the nullifier comes out. I was very impressed by ace this game
Yeah
The early game like he was the only reason that liquid really had a chance with a lot of his rotations
Like he got dumpstered in lane like we thought he would, but he moved around a lot and like that,
just quite honestly, is not like within Ace's wheelhouse usually.
He's usually the guy that sits AFK in lane, right?
The weird thing I'm watching with Team Liquid against the better teams, like the teams they've lost to in the tournament,
is their early game execution, like on kills and rotations, looks really sick and yet I find them losing a lot of their laning stages,
like they're down 1-2k. This game was like worse, the last game was worse than most.
I'd be curious to like dissect it because their moves I'm always like wow that's impressive
And then they feel it fall behind like 12 minutes in
When you're moving around a lot, you're doing a lot of plays you're not really playing on games
And that's how you balance that though, you know, I mean that's the thing right you need better matchups ideally like I think
The problem for them in this last game was like they have really bad matchups
They did a smoke move level one that is like
Essentially the game over four or one four from a pro player perspective when that happens in your head
you're like, oh god, this is just through this game.
Four deaths, like Necrox, three of them or something,
I don't know, some ridiculous advantage
on an already winning lane,
and then Kunkka also gets that on an already winning lane.
And I feel like, yeah,
then you don't really have much of a choice.
You can't lane, so you start looking around,
you start doing moves,
and that's like the best thing you can do.
And it's a lot of just like disruptive plays
that are kind of like,
you're hoping to force some sort of mistake,
because there's no way you can win the game
playing it by calmness.
Yeah, I feel like they made Poryvision...
Like, they set up so much in the game that allowed Poryvision to overextend and make that throw.
Like, they had to do a lot of things, right?
Like, imagine if Ace didn't have those successful kills early game,
because they were still down like 5k at 15 minutes or something with all those moves, so...
Yeah, just hats off to Liquid.
I mean, I've been seeing a lot of high-skill stuff from them,
but I do think they've had the strategical disadvantage against the better teams right now.
Like, better teams meaning not better than them, but...
Stronger.
Stronger opponent.
Well, they changed some things up for this game, I do want to focus on what's happening here, because so far it's very similar.
I was going to say, if I were a pair of vision, I wouldn't...
Why would you not run it back? Like, they were winning. Clearly, you can see where they made the mistakes.
I think they were very comfortable with where that game was at, as long as they don't do the dives that we were talking about.
Like, I think in a theoretical, like, draft perspective standpoint, I think they had everything going for them.
They did.
I will say though that in terms of like, Hari playing Hari Dota, I think this was a harder
game for them to be themselves.
I think the heroes were not exactly like what they used to play.
They still executed it great because they're good players and a good team.
But it's not like, game 1 felt a lot more of their style, you know what I mean?
Why would they ban out the Beastmaster in this game?
Over the axe, over the timber?
If it was ignored in the previous game?
I'm probably from Liquid's perspective, they won't ask him, they want to set up something
similar, do you feel like they were happy with the trade, it worked out for them?
But then why not doubt out the Axe?
Like they did previously?
Yeah, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
You know what I'm saying?
I think that they might have made the read that if we pick Kez first, they're going
to pick some person.
Yeah, it's a lot of them.
Let's not spend any plans on Axe as well.
Beastmaster maybe because it's a flex you're considering.
I was just looking through their bands in all three of these games because Liquid's
been in First Pick all three games.
And so party visions always banned Lone Druid Doom, but the first game they went Puck's
Islands there, and the second game they went Hoodwing Pango.
So I'm curious how much is going into these first round bans, because a lot of times those
things will be awfully similar, or at least the heroes we see going through will like
show up in the game.
Like you'll see the Hoodwing, you'll see the Pango, and we did see the Puck that got
previously banned.
But...
Nisha's Puck is also a little bit bullshit.
It's just like unfair to play against.
Yeah.
I think like in terms of heroes that provide opportunity for skill expression, Puck is
like probably the highest yeah with ember maybe number two and nisha is that guy you know like
that you want of those kinds of heroes well i think his pangos look good this tournament i would say
historically it's a weaker hero from and probably in that regard it's like a safer bet to let the
pango through them the park that's sure if you're in that kind of game as in game one and he's pango
or you're too sorry and he's pango i think he has a lot of a harder time figuring out how to close
the way back into the game the same way he knows what fuck like all the ins and outs of every situation
No matter how good about it looks. Yeah, so they replaced the keeper band with Nix, which means now there's
Probably gonna be keeper the light. There's a coddle angle. Yeah, which
Does change
Everything I mean coddle timber
Fine. It's it's like a okay combo refreshing the Q and the W of their low cooldown
He likes having mana, but all of the other picks will therefore get changed for a pair of vision strategy also changes
Right, next is a lot about hunting and setting up moves and like playing around mid and pressuring Nisha with
Coddle it would be a lot more about force liquid to come to us while we farm our stacks
Because if you don't we're gonna get too fat and then you can't fight us anymore
It is really funny and when you think about Dota at this level like how much of a place-file difference the four position makes for the entire
Team synergy and strategy like when I hear you say that I'm like wow. Yeah, you're right
Like you literally go from pressuring to playing your own game for your own timings and so they go for pango first
I mean that hero wasn't ever really gonna show up because even though you said Misha pango is not as scary as a
Pock you still don't want to give it away. They've been highly prioritizing it
It's another mage player buyer and it's an actually not be a diffuser fire. It's a call a combo too true
So now both sides are thinking about it. Is this a hero that team liquid could steal like it. I don't really yeah
I feel like it should be
But it's not really in their real-life right now.
I think both Pofu and Boxy play it, and they both played well, but I don't think it's like a...
For party, I feel like when they pick Caudal, the entire team keeps saying that the entire draft is about Caudal,
and every entire team functions around line-class.
I feel like for Liquid, they won't be the same front-level. It's not as scary for their team.
So they don't go for it? They go instead for the Underlord Ruvik?
If they're anticipating a caudal from Paravision, then you would also anticipate, like, a Tiny coming from them as well, maybe.
And I think Underlord Rubik is pretty good against Tiny. Like, Rubik stealing Avalanche is insane.
And Underlord has percentage damage for Tiny in lane.
There it is.
Come on, I'm stronger.
I guess the question here is like, tiny could get banned, it's probably not going to be picked by liquid because it's like almost exclusively a carry.
I wonder do they pick it here, is there something I'm not sure?
No, I think they're going to go like witch doctor again or something, like something to secure the lane.
And leave last pick for the carry?
Very, very likely it's a five, just simply to get more information.
You do see your matchup close, so like, in theory you could also pick your carry, but the same is true for your support.
I just don't think Tiny is like good enough against what we see to be like, yeah, you should want it.
It's not, but it's just because of the cauldron, like, it changes the dynamic of the hero for sure.
I also feel like, let's say there's two bans, what carries are you looking at?
How's the carry player yourself?
Faces Void and maybe Ursa or something like that.
I would say Void is probably not as good against the heroes you see, but it's not that strong, right?
You don't really have that much, like, confidence in the chrono in the early game, I feel like.
Yeah, I mean, I feel like Pango caught all of the timbers.
That's good enough.
I mean, a lot of the faces of Void, I feel like, is to remove Kaz from the game.
Like, mid to late game, they don't have saves on Team Liquid.
I wouldn't have picked Void right there.
I'm saying like the heroes I'm eyeing after the band stage, right, right?
Is there an element of picking Grim here that's also deny picking it?
Like liquid can't take it. I think the night picks in general are like very rarely a concept generally
Except for rubik underwars, is it?
I mean maybe yeah to some degree, but it's also like you want to pick rubik on the cctender
But you will probably avoid it picking on the lord unless rubik made sense for you as well. Yeah, I'll get that makes sense
Yeah, you really pick a hero so they don't get it
It has to be both.
It has to be both.
And you can think about it during the draft, going into it, how do we set up this draft.
For example, I'm sure this pango from Pari, they let it through the plans thinking we'll
pick it on 13, because they won't pick it on 9.
Or if they do pick it on 9, then we get Kess, and then they're like, oh and no matter what
we get two S2 heroes here.
But usually not at this point in the draft, you're like, hmm, we need to take this guy
with us.
It is good with the other heroes too.
room pango. Excellent obviously. You can even timber, it's fine with them.
Vayne is a classic counter to Caudal. This is one of those matches where Caudal just
can't trade. And you have a very easy time following him around. If he tries to go stack
something you can go catch him, stand up on him. Caudal is generally very fast, so you
want to play away from the enemy heroes and try to abuse that. Vayne is like too tanky
and he has catch from long range, so it's kind of easy to shut down Caudal.
I thought it was so funny when you said that I'm like, how the hell is Vayne a counter
Like I was thinking about it their spells interactions and all that kind of stuff
But then yeah, you talked about Caudal representing a certain type of game plan and I could see how Bane just completely
You can follow him into trying to walk walking up. Yeah, you're fast
You're not getting out movement speeded the same way a lot of other sports aren't plus you have like in-state armor and cuddle
It's like a shrimp. Yeah, so I
Was very I know I was a little hopeful that this series would have more than one witch doctor
I was not the case. I just wanted to put my stat in the south there.
I feel like it's just the one witch doctor is the one that I would sell off.
It did win. It did win.
200% win rate, why not?
What is Tofu eating? Go back to Tofu Camp.
Tofu Camp?
We gotta wait, we gotta wait.
Oh, a grape! That's a grape!
Oh, that's a...
Sure, it's not like an olive?
It was on our... I think that was an olive.
That was a great way to sell it.
Tofu's eating olives.
Isn't there a sentry?
Wait, wait, is there a pit? Does he have a pit?
Oh, it's an olive.
Oh, my God.
Oh, they took it out.
He was about to take it out.
No, it wasn't.
You know, there's also a pit in the game, guys.
It wasn't great.
Underlord.
Nobody eats olives, but the fork.
He clearly just did.
No, he doesn't want to get his mouse and keyboard.
That was a great...
But then he goes...
Okay, I've got an easy way to settle this.
Press 1 if it wasn't olives, press 2 if it was a...
Grape.
Grape.
We'll have to ask him after the game.
Yeah, we'll make sure.
We've got an Invoker band as well, so we have 4 on the side of Team Liquid.
We're looking for a hero for Nisha for the side of paravision. It looks like
That's meant to just dumpster the penguin lane right that's what that's for
Hero, but can they switch it about because I wonder if I as nothing to timbers pretty strong too
Yeah, that's the vain is like giggling. This is like a you think like kes mid-rider. Yeah, maybe right?
It's a job. He does that right freak. Yeah. Yeah, they do that'd be cool
I feel like Niche surely plays it if anyone could pull it off. It's it's him like you want your
High-skill savant guy playing Chesmit, but he's also very good at a second. What about Alchemist? What about this hero?
How's this hero still in the pool?
Is it lane well to Rubik on the board? I'm just thinking like
Temple wise Grimstroke you need like an initiating stunner. Oh
I don't
It's a cat he'll go for the classic
But isn't this kind of a hero you pick when you don't have a hero?
Oh, absolutely.
It is Anisha Kez.
Yeah, okay, it is Anisha Kez. I like that a lot.
I don't know how good it is, but if it's good, I like the draft a lot.
I think they have a lot of good things happening.
This is a cool swap up.
And terribly, it's not particularly great against Underlord Rubik, right?
I mean, I think TB is like the ultimate endgame, like I will carry this game.
He will scale.
Oh, he's...
Anisha's been playing on his main account.
Whatever we can play on.
We should be able to see...
I don't see his Dota plus level, does he have Dota plus?
No.
I don't think so, shoot.
I actually think this game's like flipped from game two, where like Team Liquid is on a timer,
but I think their lanes are much stronger and they've got a cool strategy.
And I believe in them much more in game three than I did in the first two games.
Yeah, I don't know the pango-quez matchup well enough to be able to say,
but I feel like if this mid-matchup is like in Liquid's favor,
and they can like play off of the tempo from Mikae and Nish,
I think they have a pretty good thing going for the first like half of the game
But then TB ultimately is endgame red boss even with like underlord aura and crimson
Eventually, I think he still becomes the red boss. Okay. Okay. You have to cut him. Okay. I feel like liquid wins all three lanes now
I mean, I also don't understand the
Mid matchup. It's not something you see super often, but Bane asset versus timber should
Obliterate it. Yeah, that should not it's really really rough
And then Underlord, like you said, Underlord of Rubik against TD, it's an illusion hero, you shove out the waves.
And Grimstroke.
And Grimstroke, you can even kill him on that lane.
We've seen that matchup, Rubik plus Underlord versus TD, TD dies.
What is the purpose of the Grimstroke in these drafts?
I think it's one of those heroes where they just pick it because they don't know what else is better.
And they might want to deny it from Liquid themselves for the pango.
But yeah, I guess like, I'm not sold on that, like it makes sense.
But like I agree with what you said earlier that like it has to fit your draft and
It feels like the terrible aid and the Grimstroke are both in that category of like
I don't know what else to pick sort of so yeah, this would be the first game of the three games that
Liquid would win the lanes
We'll find out can they do it can they take game three or will para vision still close it out successfully?
We're heading over to old pitch won't fogged of course, but first the park jimp on that
Here we go ladies and gentlemen, time to get to the deciding game!
Three here, Paravision versus Liquid, and we've forged this one.
I think I've seen what kind of the last bit coming in in terms of like full comfort from Paravision.
Same thing, it's like give me the Terrible, eh?
Uh, Liquid actually.
Last time around the first blood situation didn't go too great, but it didn't matter.
They won the game.
Wait, they know they're here.
I just saw a pig.
Let's have a look.
Who's going to surprise who this is?
It's a quite the wrap.
to wrap around every day.
Nine class?
They've got the extra vision from the band
so they see him first.
I mean, he's dead.
They're going to get him.
See if they can give that, I guess, ideally to Ace.
They have faithful guild.
Can they close the gap?
Oh, maybe they don't.
Never mind.
Nine class, he's fine.
And now Tofu.
Oh.
Probably going to die.
Yeah.
He's going to get first-budded for sure.
He'll at least be able to bring down the courier with him.
but the cars will find first blood taking down tofu, so Tanya's going to get boxy as well.
Boxy going for the kill, and Knight class will get a D-word from it.
They killed the Fade Bolt instead of the Lyft to keep the Coddle near them.
I think probably just for the laning thing too, right?
Alright, sure.
Fade Bolt's secure, but ends up hurting.
Kind of went wrong when they looked for first blood last game.
Maybe they could have kind of, you know, revisit how they looked for first bloods.
They didn't go great game too at the start, they didn't go great game-free.
Yeah, a bit of a slip up.
Sometimes it does happen.
You know, you really want to have fadbul, but sometimes lift is very effective
and it doesn't end up making the miss out a couple of things.
And they lose the ward.
Top 9 plus...
Plus did try to set up to lane super low.
So, he's probably gonna die for that.
And he uses...
Ooh!
Oh, no way!
I killed Dodge there!
Still nice.
Of the raise, Wendy's still dead.
But at least that would have denied the gold going away.
Oh.
Mckay.
But now his lane partner is alone
in an already pretty dangerous matchup.
The wave is gonna push into him, but yeah, this is a very difficult lane for notice.
And it's designed bottom TV see how he does versus the underlord rubik
I mean this should be a lane right where
He I mean they're going to try and believe this terrible
I'm pretty early right there
This should get a bit too much room once the levels start coming in the rubik underlord lane that we've seen countless times
Yep, pretty much here at the streaming as soon as matter goes down right the lane start to be very difficult for satanic to walk up and go for
Any type of effective trades now we finally get to talk about the mid you can talk about it
So, Nisha on the cast, as far as you can see, this is his debut in terms of pro games with the hero, but look at some of these pub games.
He beat my ass the other day. Twice, I think. It was not nice.
Well, at least we can find records of a couple of games that he's played that were shared publicly.
One of the games, yeah, this was against you, Fogdy, went 23-1 and 20.
Yes, he did. He only died because he dove fountain, and we literally, we literally wanted to kill Nisha and call GG, and we did get him, so that was nice.
He is definitely a cast player. I just haven't seen him from the mid lane.
No. And these pubs, you know, these are unranked games.
Both of them he did crush in.
Both games went for a similar build. I think it's a little different, but the other cast is right.
He gets the blink dagger a bit earlier than other castes.
At least in those games, we'll see if he does that here.
He was going for the mage slayer, then the blink.
Yeah, I think he's just doing that because he's beating.
He's plus a card.
We're a bunch of noobs in comparison, and it's also like a 20k MMR disparity in those games.
So you don't eat him.
Sure.
Got friends.
Yeah, you don't think he goes blink that early in a program?
He could, because he's the myth.
So maybe he goes for backline jumping with this blink.
So what to see what's the goal?
They might be swimming to it.
Get the blink early on the myth, guys.
Top, as we said, noticed he's going to have a miserable time on the Timbersaw.
Yep.
Gets brought down from the big gate.
Bottom.
Actually, trying to contest, let's see if we can turn him.
trooper base and it kind of doona here satanic gonna work yeah but that went
wrong yeah liquid they they went for that they went for the drag back with
the telekinesis back into the pit and satanic says oh sure I'll just turn and
hit the underlord at melee range yeah usually not the case that we see happen
with the TV versus the underlord but getting a bit overzealous on the side of
liquid thinking that they can't just go for him without meta now he's gonna have
meta for the next though too so that's actually a very big pick up satanic's
able to get with Ducalus.
In the first few minutes, he is having a much easier land than I feel like we would have
seen other Terrablades or Maliheroes have against this Rubik under Lord Dua.
They brought a lot of regen for him, so I didn't want to talk about that.
It was actually double tango salve on Ducalus, and then they brought even more tango, so
making sure he's at like a threshold of HP where he can fight after the Firestorm and
the Fade Bolt.
So pretty interesting how they do that.
It looks like mid is pretty even so far here.
The double spam of pango is very difficult to really shut down.
Trying to drag the creep waves away from Asia.
Doesn't want to play the lane in a normal kind of thing because you do get poked from
the cast but you can just double clear waves constantly.
Has nine classes as well.
Coddle.
Topu?
We'll find nine class if you do a pretty good amount of damage here.
He's hit enough though, he has 9 thick charges, so 9 class should be okay.
Yeah, he'll be fine.
He'll still keep chasing him and being very annoying though.
Click and see what he's saying, the bane is very good.
Oh yeah, he's behind!
He actually was able to just walk up and brain-stab him.
He did not respect the fact that...
I can't tell if he would be able to reach in and do that.
I didn't think he'd have to reach either.
That was nuts.
What I'm lying?
He'll be able to kill us to Carlos, but Static, he's punching back pretty hard.
TPR will be there for me.
He gets him away from this.
A 9 class having a rough entry into this game. Two deaths right away.
After he does do a little juke at the start to survive.
And his stacks, we were mentioning about the bane.
It's always going to be very difficult to get stacks in there because you can just walk in, block them out.
You're very good at just contesting versus gobbled because you can't trade versus the bane at all.
I noticed.
The left side up there.
A couple of raises.
A lot of damage.
Oh, they tried to put the tree in front of him to block the timber chain. That was close.
That would have been smart. Doesn't quite work out. He's still able to pull himself back to safety.
That was so close to them blocking it.
He still can't really step up though, so he continues to be very problematic.
I say this, he actually has 22 last hits, though, and Ace is only at 14.
So Ace is actually having just the difficult of a time down here.
I think Liquid would definitely have hoped to be able to shut down the Terriblade a little
bit more in these first five minutes and they've not been able to.
At least put some pressure on him, not in case of whatsoever, Nisha will get the Arcane
rune.
No one, not quite level six, won't get going on.
Fantastic start for Sotanic.
Mika Mika is a little bit ahead, but it's designed to be that way right with the shadow fiend
It's supposed to be the ones that have that advantage
Bassatonic definitely super happy
Notice gonna start just cutting some creep waves
Getting what he can so he doesn't play in the face of the shadow fiend himself
Good catch
To call this getting a little too aggressive is gonna be a third death for him
This lane, the power, you just get caught on the side there. Pretty much an instant kill with the double pits.
There's still a low level phrase in particular. There's still only level 4, except how this lane has played out.
We'll have some stacks to go back to. They're gonna probably get buff wisdoms while they'll see that those look like it.
Hard to contest being, unless you bring multiple heroes because you just nightmare you and pull you out of it.
of it. Double shrines, stacking camps as well. Liquid, taking boxes in this early game as
Tofu is also going to look to at least annoying notice. Sleep him, let the creeps just walk
away. Very annoying. No one does step into the triangle of liquid. We'll be able to
take away a couple of these stacks, at least the medium camp, and re-block it. And Satanic
continues just laying bottom. Not too much threat on him.
I don't know at all.
One zero two.
Looking to set up now for notice.
Mickey, this is a interesting positioning.
Ah, this ain't his base, notice.
And Mickey, one more raise.
Ooh, he's gonna work for her.
He's gonna make her work for her.
A little honor, but a boxy will be there, it's in short.
The notice is handed back over to was Mickey.
Well, okay, the boxy takes the kill himself.
Let's say box and take it out the case don't you tell me that no, it's like
Okay, you wanted that one didn't you? Yeah, they're gonna smoke make a out to get back to the lane
But a lot of time lost I think to creep waves and maybe you are more yeah
That was quite a big move for me get ahead out of the lane to go for yeah
My costume overall report boxy for taking the kill
The box is like but I tp'd over you know, it's not a make it
It happens.
A group of players always want to take curiosity stacks.
Nisha, looking to steal the stacks that the pango had taken away from this side, pango
though will be able to clear out again almost all of these and has the chakra always constantly.
A very good chakra game.
All three cores thrive on it.
I just wanted to set up here with a wraparound, to Carl, let's try Mikkei, so he turns up to this top lane, and Mikkei, last sort of minute gameplay there, it's going to feel pretty rough for him right.
I'm going to go back to the base, spend all that time trying to get a kill, gets brought back out to the lane, and then suddenly the whole of Paravision turns up.
And if anything, the design of Liquid's draft, if they're the ones who kind of want to be doing that, they're the Terriblade, not the Terriblade wrapping around the shadow lane and being ahead now at this point.
this point. This is a phenomenal start for Satanic. Yeah, he's having a great beginning here.
And his hero is the one that wants to have that super late game scaling liquid. They
definitely want to have an advantage into this mid game here. So, hemorrhaging some kills.
And mid game, as you said, not just hemorrhaging kills, but wasting quite a bit of time there.
That was super heads up move from Satanic. It immediately goes back toward bottom, up
to 5k net worth, pre-10 minutes. Couldn't ask for a better start on this Terrorblade.
And overall, how good is the game for an SF, right, because we don't see this hero, you know, it's not the hottest carrier right now.
Strong in mid-game, it definitely starts to hit a bit of an issue, right, as that game does progress.
And Pango can cause you some issues if he's not controlled, right, so it's gonna be up to the Bane, the Fiends Grip in particular,
or if somehow the Rubik's Steel sometimes has a Soulbind, which would never happen, for them to, yeah, protect Vicki,
because if he just gets rolled on early, there's quite a bit of magic damage that also can't be threatened.
So pass that to protection of the front line, and we'll see how the Kess works out, right?
It's not that traditional mid hero that you have with something like a Shadow Fiend.
I do start falling behind, obviously with last game we saw
Mid K being able to turn the game when he was on the Kess.
Might be one of the, you know, another game where it's on the Kess again,
but this time in hands of Nisha to see if he can turn it around if they do
continue to fall behind this game, Liquid.
Yeah, let's see if Mid K maybe changes the build a little for something more mid game fighting
so that the Kans can have some type of later scaling.
I don't know if you can really deviate though with the build this time on Mickey so much.
So we'll have to see what he does want to do.
Lots of stacks being made, both teams.
Gonna back up, finish up that timing, no one is about to have to fuse up later.
You have to always talk about the pango with the coddle.
Right, this coddle. Chakra on pango, Chakra on timber, Chakra on the tb.
Very strong.
The tofu's still not quite level 6.
Just shy of it from the fiends grip.
Fiendscape is at the ready always, so prepare a vision.
Do have to be aware that that extra number can always come in from liquid.
So right now, content with being able to sit back and farm, and it feels great if Satanic's able to just occupy this area still at this point.
Kind of a very good timing on Atlanta.
Sank up around the power room. It's going to be...
... just using it.
Misha still looking to try and close in on the mage lap.
You saw nothing?
Stacks being made to continuously so this timber is getting enabled nicely to just back up reset not have to lane vs the SF
Not have to worry about getting killed either
Let's see what they catch ace quite vulnerable here
Boxing we'll be able to play out
Have this deep ward top still placed from the side of Paravision.
They know that Mika and Tofu are up here.
They want to do some type of clever flank play.
They have great information.
Okay, we'll slow down slightly here.
Nisha looking to disrupt facts with his illusion and he will be able to disrupt the entrance
that very annoying.
They know that Paravision is sitting back playing that economy game.
Imagine.
Once Nisha does have that first time surely you'd be dead.
That's when you'd kind of smoke up and try and make plays with the supports agreed.
They have beanscape now available.
Parapins, beans, grip, beanscape available so they do have multiple ways they can set
up for these fights.
And definitely don't want to play too slow on the side of Liquid, right?
Playing versus this draft of Paravision which scales very hard.
You want to try to get some moves to get yourself at least into some advantage,
since you did lose the first tower of the game.
Watch them get the chance up top.
Can they get the catch here?
The two supports.
Because they have the fiends game, but with these two, they haven't the damage.
It's going to be the question.
I think they don't really want to do it for a call.
I guess they'll just settle for it.
They have to damage with the two supports for this.
I guess the game slowed down to the point where it's like, well, they'll drop an ult.
Get something.
They maybe wanted to try some type of shrine steal, right, but they'll run into a coddle.
They'll be able to get an unnoticed.
Exchange there's ace.
Going for the crimson.
So at least we'll have that protection. Good versus the physical damage that's coming up that there's a good amount of hybrid, of course, on paravision.
Game slowed down quite a lot here.
I'll just let the guy into joint together now, maybe on paravision to do something.
That's if they want to. Do they are hitting creeps pretty effectively.
The satanic is just chilling, and now that he has Manta too, the speed of the farm is just going to increase to that much more, especially once he gets to that shard too, so I mean satanic probably being like, I'm chilling, guys.
We're stacking, we're being more efficient around the map, they are going to make the move, look to shut things down to Grim plus the pango, very strong duo.
Can't kill pretty much anybody, any of these cores in particular.
And I like to see that Ducalus is putting more points in Fanta.
Put a couple points in Stroke of Fate, maybe just for spam early, but that third point in Fanta is crucial.
And make it definitely vulnerable.
As you said, if you get on top of him...
He has to have protection from his allies. Tofu does have a paddus to protect.
Just making sure that there's no way of them catching the SF right now.
Yeah, I mean Tofu has to just hug him here at this point.
Fiends grip up in 10 seconds, making the long move across Paravision unable to find anything.
Both teams in the creeps.
And there's the shard, first mechanic.
Let's see what Liquid wants to try to force a little more here.
They're probably also quite content being able to sit back in creeps.
Yeah, I think the next attack thing is like, well, everyone's happy.
I could just farm a good Decepto timing, which is, actually, he's alternating still.
He's considering Manta or Yashakaya or Decepto.
I wish in a few different ones being queued up. I'm not blink. Unfortunately the pop build
Because I'm like, yeah, what do you mean?
Would you
Yeah, can you get away with going for the desert that he was eyeing up?
What do you think you will need to get the man to first stop to have a dispel?
I think it depends on the next fight. Yep
If you do have a very successful fight, you might just go the desktop, right?
But if you end up dying because of something might just go back to the man, so we shall see has an end damage
Yeah, both teams are very happy in the grids, but I really can't blame them.
It's a gas TB, potentially a king of late game eventually, but Liquid Straf also does
scale pretty hard with this cast.
They do find a catch on to notice.
Another grip, another rat grip, no mercy.
a very good steal for Boxy is able to get the Chakram as well.
A bit easier I would say for Liquid to make these moves, right?
When you look at the side of Paravision, it's kind of along the pangora, yeah?
To make those step-up moves, they can absolutely look to build with Liquid with this of course.
It's quite a bit easier here.
Bottom, looking for the Plank, Link on no one.
No one to try guys.
was used.
He's very dead.
Nine men to try and get him out of this post, they're telling him to step in forward and
having the damage to bring the Underlord down, continue to keep his game on top, they're
telling him.
Looking for more, Boxing, he's caught.
Coming in the rumor.
One.
Very quick to swing over and help them find another.
No one.
We said he has to be the one to make those moves.
It will be able to find a double immediately after that fiend's grip is used and I think
that's probably what he's waiting for, right there.
Bane use fiend script no one you can play the game go for the place so immediately that was used they get some big kills
And perhaps now we're gonna see tofu not use fiend script in the next few moments right? Yeah hang on to for the pango
Can't get suddenly punished that cooldown. Yeah, cuz in hindsight right top. They probably didn't even need it
Right you could have just flat to get the wreck we have the group it's there
They couldn't potentially just have to hang on to that fiend script. So I want to see him probably hold on to it
No one with a shield run for the upcoming fight, also shard soon for him, and Tormentor soon gonna be on the horizon in a minute and fifteen seconds.
And for the side of Power Vision, they've been able to claim all three T1s, so have a good amount, a little bit more information, a little more access to the Roche and the Tormentor than the side of Liquid does at the moment.
He did go Mantle, by the way, so...
Ships after the build of Bully's with my Trinch the BKB.
Make sure I'm in mid, Kaz.
I don't know, Statenik is getting too much farm.
There's not much, there's like no pressure on him whatsoever with the Shadow Fiend so
far here.
I was the Kazed last game of course and then, didn't matter at the end of it, they were
able to turn things around but you and him, imagine what, in this situation, it is going
to be harder to turn a game around against the Statenik.
Terriblade as opposed to his...
Yes.
Necropulse?
I mean that last game also, there's a point of...
There's some things to be said about it.
But yeah.
He's in a very happy spot.
It's in the old days, which is still kind of transferred over, right?
TB versus SF, this matchup, it's very good for the Terriblade.
You get the illusion, of course, eventually the reflection.
If you do get it on the SF, you get the auras as well.
The enemy team can be very, very powerful as the game progresses later on.
But that's where perhaps the kez is the X-Factor, so we'll have to see him, Terriblade.
No one. With the shield runes, we'll also find an invist, and fiendscript as we said for Tofu.
Very likely to just be helped for the rest of this game, just for that kind of thing.
Barbarians are chillin'.
Hitting those creeps. Scaling.
The 9 class. Holy locked. It's done. It has a 4 staff.
It's starting to get very rich on these supports.
It's starting to catch up to you in the underboard.
That's a big kill!
Ooh!
Eagle's throwing.
That is quite the snipe there from the side of it.
They're just going to go into the road stop of this.
This is easy.
Alright.
I don't think that was unexpected.
Not at all.
I looked like they're looking up at the toolmatch instead, so...
Head's up.
I don't need to try.
Very heads up though.
So they have TP's.
They all have TP's if they do know.
They're quick!
But it doesn't seem like they do.
wisdom skill instead. It's a liquid look and away with this.
It's gonna be an Aegis and Bob or an Aegis and fight.
I would imagine an Aegis and fight, right? Especially that they killed the Eagle song too.
Can't look for some windows.
The difficulty so far, they haven't really been able to find that fight.
Just some small pick-offs here and there, we're not able to find Mr. Tanig.
300 last hits on him.
The butterfly.
He'll have it as soon as the courier respawns.
So let's see, can they make a move?
That's the question.
Didn't you make your force to make that move?
Doesn't look like it.
They feel like they're like, okay, get 10, hit the creeps, we'll keep scaling as well.
Alright.
I mean, that, that, it definitely feels less of confidence, because scaling into the Satanic's Terrablade,
it just seems like there's kinda less
easy ways to piece together a fight to destroy a Terrablade that's, you know,
it's going to probably be an item or so ahead of you, as opposed to, like,
what you can get to deal with the Necrophos, right? It's a bit clearer
when it's the Necrophos, when it's the Terrablade, not as easy.
Yeah, one's a mid-game, one's a late-game.
Have ways to force counter it.
No one does have to- those have been gathering out greater healing lotuses, so they do have a very early one.
It's 22 minutes in and they have a greater healing lotus on the pango.
So that's like almost all the lotus pools that they've been able to pick up for him.
It's a pretty vast- pretty big injection of HP that he'll have for the fight.
Liquid? Looks like they are grouping up.
Do they go for the fight? They were grouping up like they wanted to spawn, and then they're like-
Yeah!
They really don't want to make a move right now, it seems.
Maybe someone made the call. I'm close to X item, right? Maybe ace is like, hey, I'm halfway to agony. Sure
I mean, yeah, he's going in on the axe. We're seeing Mickey looking for the silver edge
Okay, I'm working his way towards and I was in each year very close to
It's about two thousand three hundred away from I'm the goal for the full DKB
My worry is of course how big the terribly but it's also how much nine classes getting out of the map like this
Cattle is nothing to lap in in team fights. How much he does he heals an insane amount if he's not addressed immediately at the start
the fights and the fact that he can just shock her and enable all three cores is insane and
here comes the butterfly.
Okay.
I mean last time obviously for Liquid, letting the Necrophotree farm, it worked out at the
end of the day.
Is letting the Terraflate free farm gonna work out at the same fashion?
Yeah.
I mean last game it was like a 20 something.
Like the gold we got pretty fast and comical pretty quickly so that whole decision.
Quite a different game.
Mica, maybe the college wait for Shadowblade.
He's 150 away.
Okay.
about two minutes.
Feels like Paravision though, they might be the ones
to look for the fight now themselves
with that butterfly though, and they are gonna smoke.
Aisha does have the Aegis.
They saw the shadow feed for a second,
they see Boxy also, no one thinking about the jump.
Micky has to be so careful.
Oh, he does!
I think we're gonna find a tarfer.
Clean easy kills, potentially going for a tower here as well to make a hash shadow blade.
You wanna go for a very risky play here, the last century's already placed down.
I'm not sure what that is.
How do you catch them by surprise?
He's caught.
He's directly on T'Kalis.
The Heals come out, T'Kalis.
We'll get both of them by the Cairns, but he's still alive, T'Kalis.
We survived him for the initial attack from the two of them.
Greater healing lotus.
He's fine.
They look towards K'Tanik instead.
K'Tanik has got the Thunder at the ready, if necessary.
The Heals from nine classes.
K'Tanik's getting body blocks.
Should be okay, Nisha.
I'll discover the kills. I'm just gonna bring him down low, Nisha.
Of course, how's the Aegis still for just under a minute?
Those Heals, it was Holy Locket, Illuminate, and then the Greater Healing Lotus that I was eventually...
They couldn't kill this Grim!
Nope, it actually just gets enough.
Almost dies at the end of it. 50 HP onto Ducalis.
Those almost take away.
But they do keep their bunny alive. Of course, a lot of reactions.
Look at that, watch all the heals that came out, 9 class, truly coming in clutch.
Four staff, holy lock it, illuminate, and then...
Ah, we're in the Lotus.
Literally every tiny thing coming into play, because even if the holy lock amplifying the heals, at least little things, pretty cool.
Ages, we'll get reclaimed.
team's being very cautious with how they approach this game. Last one. Got a bit crazy. Pretty
fast. This one. Very low kill score.
We do have the aggadims now on ace.
Okay, so for them, team fight control has gone up drastically.
Yeah, BKB is now done for Nisha so he can commit a little bit easier in the fights without
fights to be concerned about.
Let's see if this was the timings with the silver edge for Micae all together.
Yeah, pretty much, yeah. He runs you away from having that.
Alright.
Does feel like a pretty strong timing with what they're up against.
I think so.
I don't know if you want to let this Terraplate get his next die and get that Scali.
Starting to beat on the towers. Another tier two.
Just drops in seconds.
Cause that's the thing right, when it's the Terraplate, if you lose a bad fight,
he's going to be cleaning up your base.
There's one thing that obviously Sartana could do on the Terraplate,
Which even though they were that far ahead on the necrophos the last game
It's not your base does the giant seconds to a necrophos regardless of how much farming has
a terrible blade on the other hand
Basin's gonna disappear in seconds. Nisha
Dangerous position here, but hasn't answered plus BKB
No one the very aggressive roll forward
I think they can smoke and fight after that, they know the role was used.
They can put the Estus Distiller.
They just got a bunch of timings together.
Ace at the ready.
Chasmstone as well, so gigantic gates are going to be coming in.
Ags for the pango, but no role for 60. Something to look into dodge.
Get this position Ignicia, sneaking forward.
Alright, settle for the 9th blast again.
Kibby's gonna be popped right away by notice.
I'll turn and indeed just get the call.
Can they get another kill? Wisdom?
Might be able to take that one away.
Looks like the Tannik was scared to walk down.
So we're looking for a kill.
We'll be able to find a feedscape.
Used. Easy find on the coddle.
advantage of that pangol roll but not finding a core kill.
Back up and get the crew waves.
Liquid.
We're seeing the Kessner, right?
Nisha is farming very hard.
Look at the pango starting to fall at least behind in terms of farm.
So the scaling is absolutely coming from
the two core distances we see from liquid.
Let's see if the game plan does work though, right?
As this narrowly continues to have this farm, Sheva's not finished up for notice.
He's had a very quiet game on this temperament.
He's 0-3-1.
Very farmed.
He's game more than those someone's in the trees.
It's time for...
Get the catch.
Get the catch.
Should be able to finish him with one more shot from.
I don't want the Creteware coming in on the spot of light. Ready to push on it.
It's a one.
Roche is a very long respawn timer. Could have been a fortunate scenario for them if it was a quicker one.
But another two or two to pressure with this terror blade.
is terribly they seem to know where the cast and potentially boxy are to I think
man now we saw the courier told us what to do they're gonna smoke they have
vision on top sides they don't make is also isolated off they find me gay here
that would be pretty huge but he is playing very safe here I mean they
tell almost certainly search that area at the map though just feel like they
Well, it also is like tormentors respawning in about a minute too. So
He's in trouble
Mastiff killed 80 seconds as tormentors responding they immediately poured over looking for another kill to
The biggest kill they could find they were looking for it for so long, too
Go foo!
Gonna keep the plays fast.
So Misha will find a kill in the meantime.
So who does need to get himself on the high ground.
He's gonna be tempted to look into the high ground.
I mean this. I mean it without the carrot.
He'll pop that up. Absolutely.
Let's go come in with the Crimson.
The Heal is just constantly gonna come in here.
Nine class.
He keeps the tannic.
That's pretty much it for him.
All the time without Mikkei.
Okay, at this point of the game,
that's the tier three, take it out.
And he can keep shockering him,
making sure that that meta comes back up,
meta comes back up a bit faster.
He's keeping the heals going.
He's gonna go aggressive onto Waste?
That's just ace, there we go.
Go on, make it the grip on him.
Who's force was that?
I think, who's was it?
I think it was nine class.
No, it wasn't.
Or was it, I actually didn't get this.
No, we gotta check that.
I thought it maybe it was Boxie.
I think they both aggressively forced that enemy.
Working out. They're having a kill on Topher as well. I didn't get to see who that was
I think boxy four staff to satanic and nine class four staff the underlord. So it looked funny
I'm not sure though or it was the bane. I can't tell which one it was
Who forced it I
Think nine class forces. Yeah, okay, so it's really big forces in it and yeah coddles forces underlords, so
Alright, so that's a nine class mistake.
Absolutely. Okay, we get it.
Both four positions, the same aggressive force staff.
Very good aggressive force.
Now from Liquid.
That's a...
Oh, stop the push!
Well, but now, to kill.
That's a low, you know, that's a take down.
Stay tanked for the first time this game.
Micky, they've got to get some time to respawn.
Rax is gonna die.
Alright, shut up, what's that?
I mean, do you just go straight for the pit when you back up there with Sintanik?
I imagine they will. They have good ward coverage in the area too, so it's gonna force Liquid to fight outside there without Mikkei with BKB.
He kinda needs this BKB versus the pango.
Positioning is pretty hard, especially if he's not in his base without BKB.
So, looks like I should just, I mean, should finish this off for free because it's too fast.
It looks like Liquid maybe wanted to contest, but they can't get there.
I'm gonna push up this.
Straight down the lane again and go for the base.
Yep.
For the first pick, one of the two.
If they can't find that pick, off it is the dream.
Liquid.
Any other big item, pick up CeNisha.
Getting closer to MKB.
Okay.
Looks like first we'll deal with the lanes, get them into a better position,
potentially find that catch.
Can't just go for that high ground still.
A little careful.
He's gonna give time for Mikkei to at least finish up that BKB for himself.
I'll keep an eye on those aggressive force staffs.
Both being used the exact same time.
Terribly going Hydra's breath potentially.
Wait till he does get it, cause it's gonna take quite a bit more time as he does have the data list he's showing.
Seems like they're gonna force out the BKB from him.
It's pretty speedy though, so it should be able to get out without a toasted one!
Oh my god! Split second!
Wow.
They likely just hit him.
He either dies or has to BKB and run and make them work for it, but that was actually a split second there.
9K lead now, 4 power vision.
Both left here finished up, you're noticed.
The damage is ramped up a lot too with the stateless down, so...
Staying on top of the scotties.
They gotta address them.
They can get that back in the pool's play if they have to control for the positioning.
We'll tell them to get the fiend's grip off.
A couple big items picked up.
Nisha, MKB is done, Shiva's done for Underlord, while on the flip side, a Lotus Orb for no one and a Hatch.
A lot of huge actually for Night Class.
If they can just drop that down on Satanic and allow him to hit the base, the Lotus stops a lot of the count to play the Liquid As.
But also, no one has to protect himself first, the fiend script potentially too, so it's a debate of how he wants to use this Lotus.
I think he might rush. He might not mind getting Grypt though, if it means Satanic ain't getting Grypt.
Perhaps, you know what I mean?
He might not feel forced to go in, right? You just Lotus and sit back and wait. So, has options.
Oxy, one outside of the base.
Oh, it's his team.
Has to throw the Lotus on to himself when he is rolling.
We'll reset.
So, two and a half minutes left on the Aegis.
Ah, I'm almost done.
He's gone. He has got the BKBs at it.
I'm glad he did this, I was gonna say.
I prefer him having at least one defensive tool,
because right now it's very aggressive,
built he's gone for.
Can just go die to the magic damage.
He's not careful. So we'll have that for the respawn.
A tense game though. 12-12.
Yeah, I'm in power vision.
They're playing very careful.
After that last game right there.
They don't want to let this one slip away in the same fashion as game 2.
Pretty painful loss for them that one.
Yeah, they're in a pretty comfortable position.
VersaTanik is saying like I'm still absolutely massive and I'm versus the SF.
It's just this case is the question, right?
Nisha is also starting to get pretty tremendous. Yes, his farm's fantastic
And we've seen sort of early sort of signs, you know, his little pick-offs that he's made so far
But that sort of Kes explosion hasn't happened yet
But it absolutely could here in this game if they did it with a 30,000 deficit in the last year
Look, we still want Micae could do and every reason to believe that Nisha is able to be gonna be able to pull off as well
Here comes the siege with the Aegis
They enter down. Double catapult waves it this while that they're trying to use.
These double catapults are annoying to deal with. Fair bit of damage onto this tower.
We'll get brought down now.
That round brown box you need to show. See if they can get to the back lines of the fight.
They seem to know. They're backing up resetting.
It's still risky into the one minute of the A, just on Satanic.
Nisha, it's gonna get found in by the GlideNet!
Out to pull himself away!
Massive gate.
It's close though, you see.
Just a few of the hits connecting from the Terrablade,
and it takes Nisha down to half-hp straight away.
Let me beat these right clicks from Satanic, they are!
And you can tell that they're feeling a bit of that scare, too.
The way that he uses the fiends gate to just zone them...
Does tell a tale.
Nisha really wants to hang onto his BKB for the fight.
Meta was used, but Meta will be able to come back up very quickly.
He's just going to shocker him off cooldown, sticking right on top of him.
So it's going to come back up pretty soon, 30 seconds.
Tofu trying to regain footing.
They're trying to get a position advantage here on Liquid.
Look at the little wards that they've placed, right?
All three wards kind of sneaky outside the base in these, not the most optimal kind of
positions, but trying to look for that one scenario that they can find a wraparound.
And to call this, I was waiting till we saw him queue it up.
Point booster has been picked up.
So another element that, the longer the liquid scales, this Grimstroke also is going to have
crazy potential if he's able to get this Dark Portrait as well.
This game is definitely hearing off for some crazy late game fights.
Imagine Paraficion, they probably won't try and do anything until the next rush end now.
Yep, it's like, wait for the next rush.
If you find a catch outside, sure.
But yeah, still going for the high ground push is difficult.
Yeah, I think that's it. I'm gonna try and hurry this one.
They still have growth, right? Agonyms on the Grim.
If Aegis as they can claim, quite a bit more than no one can pick up too.
I see he's queued up the Disperser.
This Berserker is pretty cool too versus the Pit and all these little things to be able to get in and out.
Notice also we'll get a free shot.
The first pick is big damage out of that. He really needs to go through that tower blade.
Just having difficulties getting into position to hit him of course.
16k lead for paravision, 15k to play
Very cautious, we need to protect satanic
Hatch is breath done
I mean he's pretty much done right now
Where do you sort of go from here?
What's next on the map?
Here's Agadam's taking a slow look to replace things around here a little bit here
Right, the Manta
So it could potentially get moved around
BKB went on cooldown
Some small growth for him
It's only level 22 as well
those three levels at least to get to that 25.
Looks like they're probably just also waiting for the road. Yep, they don't seem to want to try and go for any sort of
smoke moves. Even in the sort of downtime where there's no aegis in play.
If they get vision of any hero too far outside, paravision, they will absolutely look to hunt it just
No one's really showing, Nisha playing very careful.
Skirting on the sides, there's Nuke and Creep waves instantly.
Rosh, we'll find out in 40 seconds.
Disciplined, from both sides.
12 to 12, I'm 14 minutes in.
One of the lower kill count games, but it's very tense.
power vision feeling so very comfortable in the driver seat but as we said you
know this has can never write this hero off as the game approaches late no I
said that's that's that's really exciting thing really that we haven't
seen like a team fight full-on when he's just been like fully committed to
fighting in the 5v5 right so we you know for what the potential is from
these here on this hero we're yet to see for sure it's got the items for it and
He's played a very careful game so far.
And like, there's just so many different elements too.
It's like, if Mickey is left alone too in the fight,
he is gonna do a lot of damage too.
It's just, that's the question, there's a big if.
Because Kansas die pretty quickly here too.
I think they're gonna give Ducalus
quite a bit of priority on farm though,
like I was mentioning.
This guy's portrait is pretty busted
if he gets to this point in the game too.
It's super close.
He is about to have it, pretty much done.
And it will be probably right around that rush,
the five second respawn.
So let's see if Liquid is going to be able to get out to contest that roaster if they're just going to have to give it for free.
Ideally, they're going to contest it. I don't think they're going to want to give that one for free.
Absolutely.
To Coloss.
Yeah, defending against an Aegis Terribler to this point, pushing your base.
You're going to at least lose a set of Barracks.
It's the Aegis, it's also just to refresh your Shard too, because then the Pango can just like double roll inside your base.
There's so many different elements that start to come in.
We get the chance to sort of touch the terrible. Yeah, you take your power. This is what no one can do extremely disruptive
Carlos
170 gold he'll have it in these next few moments
Wisdom being crayon claimed notice level 25 has been hit for the timber as well
You get in and out of the fights a lot easier to this talent is
Yeah, you're right, so do you. That full-legs blessing is going to be on him now.
He's bent, right? That was completely all in.
And for the tower, Blade.
Alright, everybody. This is probably where the biggest situation is going to happen in the whole game too, so...
Gotta make sure that the FPS is all good.
Yep, I'm going to dry my hands.
Oh, there we go.
I'm ready for the big kickoff around this roach.
Yep.
What's he got going on?
A little bit of a snack.
Yep, there we go.
A little bit of tea.
No, whatever's in there. I like it refresh yourself everyone take a moment. It has been a pretty slow game
I was empty that he's gonna have to fill up the flask though. He's gonna last bit that's left in there
It's all he needs for the rest of this game very likely right now. We've asked them on games
You know this one might have just been getting started. That's very true. I have a lot more this one
It does have the potential to continue for some time here
Also has the potential to end abruptly as we say right yes
absolutely. Daphne also right in this position for in favor of power vision in terms of how
quickly they could end off the back of a good team fight just because of how quickly this
terribly will destroy the base. Micke is, oh sorry, Nisha gonna get the shrine so he's also
gonna have level 25 so the Echo Slash. Does he spend up as well? Do you think on the Crusader
things they're gonna be a bit more careful with the buybacks? I think at least Nisha will be a little
more careful. He might buy the blink at the least. Has he got enough of the blink in the axe
Blessing
Vision they're gonna smoke out look for potential catch before they just walk into a pit he does by the blink, okay
Yeah, I just know what he's doing. I still just beat. Yeah
Liquid not getting caught outside the base
Paravision sweeping it to get some vision in the area. What's the hex dumb for ice?
Lot of control from him liquid smoking up. They're gonna look for this fight. Nisha blank level 25
Yep, they don't want to let Paravision get this rose shot.
Time to go for the big wrap round.
Scan is there.
Is this the fight?
To get Liquid back in and close that lead?
To call us as we said, has the axe.
Instead of with the fiendscape.
Okay, it's gonna start looking at Wuz notice.
There's a portrait down.
It gets killed so they won't have the benefit of that S-Tephora.
At least for now.
Paravision are pretty scared, they're being careful.
That was fiendscape used though.
And one of the pretty strong abilities on the side of Liquid in order to control
And the Roar is on cooldown so they might walk in
and try to finish it off here with Liquid posturing in the area
No, I'm gonna want to stray too far in Liquid
That's a roll. No one's ready to go in
See if we can find it, he gets the jump straight away over to the water room
and the fiends creeps there on towards the Notius Tempestall
They get in the damage, Notius still alive though, he's away
Lotus and BKB, it'll be fine. No one rolls up forward.
It's gonna take Hector back off now.
I mean, Boxy's brought back, but the fight's starting to fall apart for Liquid.
The Hector catches him up to Topher, the tree line, they'll catch the base.
Nisha, he'll get the... No, he won't get the hold off!
They're able to just destroy him with the crits coming out from Static.
Not the fight, the Liquid hoped for that.
They couldn't finish, notice the whole... the full duration of the crit, but they couldn't kill him.
kill him. And Nisha just dies in a second there, Chump.
I could not stand it anywhere close to a chance against this damage output from Static.
Not doing the same things that we saw Micae being able to not versus Static on the terrible
end.
That's the top set of barracks, gone. I'm coming with the buyback now for Nisha.
They need to try and get some sort of catch here with this buyback. He's dead, he's dead!
It's a dieback!
Oh no!
All this time.
Yeah, we said it was building up to something.
That's what it was building up to, this game,
Phonisher on the cares, and as you say,
it worked quite what Mikke did last game, Fogged.
Nope.
Quite the opposite, unfortunately for
Phonisher and for Liquid there.
And Paravision, you could see the posturing in this game.
Yeah.
Much more careful.
They really want to more careful this time round.
They get the catch, wait for the fight
For so long to get it, Anisha joins in and just dies in an instant twice and Mikke can do literally nothing else to run the whole teamfight as well.
It felt like it was kind of building up to this, you could see the kez was still farming but...
Yeah, this draft of paravision.
But around Titanic on the TV, he don't miss.
He really doesn't, and they're ready to dive in and likely close up this series if the group won't be on the notice.
But Mikke...
Now get him, but indeed Mikke buying back for this, it's just him and Boxy left.
Notice he'll buy back on ParaVision ready to close this one up.
They take out the full set of parrots on the bottom, they've got a qualification liquid.
But ParaVision, they're not going anywhere.
They know that this time round they've managed to safely and securely close this game up.
Mikke's going to try for a play, but they're ready for him with the hex catching on towards him.
He'll get the BKB off, but Static's approaching Mikke.
They'll go for the Red Quim to push them back, but no one will notice they play with him outside of the base.
Boxing in trouble as the damage is always going to die in the fountain easily.
Two states down, it's damage out, but GG is called Paravision Take Game 3.
And with that, the series is theirs. Two to one against Liquid, a little bit, well, a big bit of a hiccuping game too.
Massive hiccuping.
Other than that, Paravision did very much seem to have Liquid's number today.
Yeah, I'm sure they're sitting there, you know, puppy watching on the side of the deck.
We're gonna play this one much cleaner, Mr. Pupon, and this one you can get.
Their idea, their concept was definitely right.
Liquid still farming very well toward the end of the thing here, but...
The farming was there, but...
The fighting...
Yeah.
It...
It could have been a spectacle from the niche from the cast, but it was...
It was the debut...
The farming was great, but the...
The fight at the end, it just went...
This is not...
And look at the hero damage, it kind of tells the tale of things, at least from Liquid.
Avoiding fights for so long, but Satanic on the Tower of Blade reigns to bring 32,000 hero damage, 9, 1, and 8.
Over 1k GPM as well.
Oh, he did pass that?
Yeah, he did.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Satanic on the Tower of Blade, as I say.
When it comes to crunch time, they bring out the Satanic TV, they get the job done.
Power efficient.
The series is there!
2 to 1 in today against Liquid.
Overall last pick on the Tower of Blade.
I guess we were a little doubtful of how his lane would go, but
Doesn't really matter if you're gonna be the strongest hero in the game eventually anyway, and in a lot of these games
Brian the carries just seemed to be able to get that time regardless
Okay, I didn't in backstage was like the team that lost the lanes and then they'd moves was the one that won all three games
What's the TV that kind of cookin? Yeah? Yeah, I did say that was like a flawless performance
Yeah, they played amazingly. I mean for me the story of this series was whoever is comfortable in the game seemed to do better
Yeah, and it needed I think it's a sign of two teams playing at like a high level is like when
Even though your draft is better if it's less comfortable, you don't win and if I came to all I mean
Let's be real party should win that game
They probably wouldn't I came nine out of ten times
But that's like where the could could find the opportunity to come back into the game and make something happen and
And sadly I feel like Nisha didn't look like Kaz is his main hero, you know the puck comfortable
in all positions because he felt more like probably knows how to play it if he's playing
it from ahead and he can play it from position of strength.
In this game he ended up being like kind of dryish, maybe even slightly behind and I think
that really hurt the good tempo in this game.
And I think Tb is like the exact peak of that type of hero that you're talking about, because
I mean maybe you guys will disagree with me but I feel like if a really good Tb player
says like just give me TV a lot of the time they have some read on the game
that if you're not also a TV player like you can't say well you I know you play
a lot of TV Brian but I feel like sometimes these guys especially Satanic
who like he came into the scene playing terribly the guys like a god at it these
people are able to identify when they could just 1v5 a game it's like yeah
Lane will be rough whatever it's underlord or we can do this against them
play with the illusions whatever but like if the game goes late I'm gonna I'm
I'm going to cook.
Yeah.
I mean, he did cook.
I feel like the TB really was ultimately like the end will be all answered to everything.
And I think probably if you're liquid, you're thinking maybe we should have accepted the
worst laning matchup for Kez, put him against Timber, and then run SF mid, which probably
would have been more comfortable for them, arguably better scaling as well.
If you get the magic build on SF, going into the mid game, you have tools to allow you
to make more plays and stuff like that, so yeah.
I feel like this whole series is like an extended chess match.
in that last game like you have the SF lane swap thing where they try to catch
notices timber off guard but then the terror blade pick was like the trump
card to all these physical damage right-clickers and I like you said I feel
like liquid had to have made some adjustment to that because it was such a
strong counter to what they're doing and I think I was over fixated on the lane
against underlord and that's why I was kind of like oh that terror blades not a
great pick but as a terrible player it's like yeah SF and Kes do nothing to you
And when you see satanic laying the lane really well, and then just clean sweep the game by the way
Hydra's breath I thought that item was virtually unbiable on carry
We'd sometimes see it on like embers mid super late game and stuff like this
But sniper or yeah or sniper
But like I think terror blade is one of the few carries that really that item made a lot of sense
He even killed ace at the end of the game with the tick damage of it on an underlord
So I thought that was really cool. I learned something in this game watching that
I don't know why you guys not seeing more praises of no one in this game because he did not die
single time on his pangol it's not even a real hero shoes 226 come on he did
really well that he did a really nice game he went to 015 I guess he didn't
have enough kills for us he didn't do crazy damage or crazy kills but you can
see the difference between having like the playmaking mid who is just he set up
every fight he set everything up and satanic is to be the big flashy star of
the show but I agree like he's the centerpiece to every fight I think I think
for me it's just like it's cool when like he did he was pangol and he did pango things and he didn't
try you know a great good job we're really proud of you but like satanic did something we didn't
expect to see from him right that's why he becomes the center of conversation and i think like
i think ultimately the more i think about it the more i feel like liquid just didn't manage to
like realize like their strength comes from nisha snowballing and having him make things happen
whereas i think like probably recognize that we just need satanic to be fat doesn't matter if notice
is the sacronaut and that's it works out for permission they continue in the
upper bracket we got team liquid not out they are continuing on in the lower
bracket now there's four series actually happening throughout the day in two
separate streams we all of course have another series coming away soon but
there have already been two other series other than the one that we watch and in
case you missed them we got our best our best person on the case it's Effie
I'm very glad to be called the best person here.
We had a really exciting day of Dota today.
Earlier, while this series was happening, actually two other series were played on a different stream,
and the results were perhaps expected or perhaps not.
I know that people have differing opinions, but we did have Falcons 2.0, Tundra today.
It was a decently close series. The second game was a lot more exciting than the first.
But this is a clip from the first game. As we can see, they've got their classic
sneaking lich. He's actually 10-1 on this hero panel if you didn't know that.
But here I just want to show you a clip of Tundra making an aggressive play.
And I wanted to show this one in particular because the panel is talking about the impact of chain frost and how pro players are
forgetting how to play against it. And this play looked fine up until out here. It comes.
Here's the lich chain frost into the dive going badly and the first game was history after that.
In this game too of Thunder vs. Falcons, it was a classic museum tanker.
Now Falcons were winning for the entirety of this game, but they had to issue a tanker high ground.
But as you can see, Crit on his lion, he jumps in, gets the Bumble and pales, manages to exchange it for his tears,
letting them in a 60 minute win. It was really exciting for them, and here we just see Windranger trying to kill Skeeter's lifestealer.
He eats the block of cheese, has it at a time, and he's winning.
Now the second series of the day we had
Team Spirit vs. Buktim. Sorry, I'm kind of out of breath here because I was like running earlier
But we have Yatoro. I just want to look at his player stats because he's owning the entire tournament
His KDA is 9-4-12. He actually played two trade protectors today with Yatoro on two ranged carries
It looked very good and I don't know big Team Spirit enjoyer over here
They are looking solid for sure and it is at least good that nobody gets eliminated today, you know everything upper bracket for now
Thank you so much for the update Effy
But we do need another team to sort out which one or another series rather start out which team goes upper bracket
Which team goes lower bracket two teams have not played yet today?
Aurora versus Navi coming your way after a break
This is like the perfect day to catch the sun and dance away
I'm a fresh right by my side
They're lightin' up the darkest night
Now they play our favorite song
Everybody sing along
The sunlight makes me smile
My friends are dropping by
One will break the stride
This is my time, I've got your future fight
She keeps me feeling alright, I'm feeling alright
There's just a taste of more loving, more loving
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I can see it in your eyes
The sunlight makes me smile
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No one will break my stride
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You can't get away from me, I've been meaning for six years now.
You can't get away from me, I'm afraid I'm watching you shine.
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Living on this life.
You make a mess of the life.
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I just wanna live it now, I never is so hard to be A moment like this, yet I'm crushed
I guess it's on another level
Going round and around
When I'm with you
Gonna save you all from what you showed me
Come on, let's change the bad dream and put it online
Come and lose myself and dance all night
We're living our very lives
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Sometimes I'm foolish, sometimes I know I'm getting mad, sometimes I say the wrong thing to myself.
wrong thing to you, makes you feel sad, but one thing is true, in all that we've been through,
you'll never stop loving me, no matter where I am.
So let me say that every day I try to find a word that my heart just said thank you
Because you take me as I am.
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Already.
If you'd stop loving me,
Well, I would understand.
But I won't take you for candy, no, no
When you hold my hand
Your love makes me feel that I could fly to the wind
Not even the birds of love can sing
I needed to say that you had a way to make me feel new
And I want to say thank you, cause you take me as I do
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Take your toes in the water, we're out for the sun
I got an office on the ship on the door
A cool box sitting on the bus if I can know
Let's take it hard to do anything I want
Dream League season 29 is brought to you by DHL and Chex.
Welcome back everyone.
We have been spreading you across a variety of streams but don't worry now this is the
last series for our first round of upper bracket playoffs where I've got Lacoste, I've got
and I've got a wealth of information to expect about this Aurora versus a Navi series from Quinn
That is a very very right. You know, there's lots of legendary matchups in Dota history. There's Tundra versus Falcons
There's Spirit versus Extreme. There's Navi versus Alliance because the list goes on and on of all the iconic Dota matches
And we've got one here now between Navi and Aurora with a may oh they've never played me. Oh, I see
Okay, well these two teams have actually never played a single match against each other
So we're treading new ground here. It's not very often
I think you run into a series where they've actually never played against each other in their entirety
So I'm very interested to see how these things match up in your team matchups
Do a lot of work and something that also does a lot of work is mid matchups
So I want to take a look at couple of these mid players and look at some of their hero pools
And if we see to me, there's very different stylistic differences between these players
So Nico, I think it's sort of a hipster sort of a counter picker and like a weird hero player
He gets a kick out of playing stuff that's out of the meta compared to Makoto if you look at his heroes
He's very much a I play the spirits I play my heroes and I run them no matter what whereas Niku is more of a counter picker
And when I think those styles clash it creates very interesting dynamics in a game because you've got one guy who really wants to own
The other guy and pick some weird stuff and the other guy is just chilling and vibing and playing his comfort
And I think that means that you create some dissonance and means that the focus around the mid lane specifically
So I'm very excited to see how these two players play out and see if Niku's
Counterpicking and hipster UNESCO can get the better Makoto or whether you know Puck is just too dog on good
Thank you. You're welcome. Now come on down and join us, Quinn, because if you don't have enough information on what Navi have been up to, then I feel like that's your fault. Sure, they may have been trying to tread water in the div-to-ish kind of area, but now I think they're confidently Div 1. They have made it up in the upper bracket of our playoffs, and they have a lot of experience playing together as we found out after talking to Niku.
In the last couple of months, I think our team had a bit of a struggle and ups and downs.
We had some very cool moments, we were playing finals, like 3 or 4 tournaments, so we didn't make it to playoffs.
We changed the diets today because we had some struggles and we needed to do something basically and we decided to change for it.
Yeah, I kinda, we played like so long, like for, I think for 3 years maybe already.
So maybe it was the easiest person.
Let's try to heal up on him.
He bought back for this, he's in trouble, got the juice, stacking up those.
Fury swipes, get away, he cannot, that's a die back, Navi might have just punched their
ticket, they get the GG's, this game is over.
I don't know, I think like first time in Dota I see like from last three years, I think
this is like so young roster.
But it's all rosters, they all have like some old player, the leader, and like giving experience
to everyone.
So now I really kind of like trying new things.
For the league I think we're going to be in good shape
almost the last tournament before TI and all those big tournaments.
So we're going to do the biggest effort that we can do.
We'll see what will happen.
You can watch how five Zoomers playing Dota.
Now I was taken by surprise after hearing him say that
they have been together for three years before Manus squad.
But I thought how many games could that really be so I checked noxals that Dota mm-hmm after
Falcons, which is now obviously the most played together squad of all time. Yeah, they've got that
They've got your old team Quinn as a four-man squad playing together for the past three years the most games
Okay, we've got liquid with the Insania squad
We've got Talon and then we have these guys
So this six the most played of the last three years four-man squad and I would not have expected that for
What has been for the majority of it kind of like a div two team?
I mean that's true
But even like days also used to play with them like back in Navi junior then they cycled them out like four sides
So it's not just these four that have a lot of experience together like even him
You know bringing things yeah these and days, you know, they're back together and they're pretty good like us
They are there there are some of the results were lacking with this quad
But recently they've gotten better a lot of the times you would see this team
You know kind of lack that little bit of punch to go into top six sometimes even
Struggling to get into top eight that managed to get the second place at last lap six and also
I mean fifth six places
Not somewhere where they want to be but because this quad has potential
And I think this might be their best showing so far ever since they got together
Yeah, I mean I'm really curious to see how they do in playoffs because I think this team has a tendency like they're very inconsistent
Yeah, Nico specifically is a player who has some wild swings in performance
And I think they also struggled with pressure a little bit like I think in the finals against Liquid or some of those games
They did not play to their absolute best
And so I look at you know now they're in the best of three territory now
You start getting further in the tournament like does the pressure get to them or they keep playing well because I think I'm honestly really surprised
It's still all in the group
I always expect them to be like a middle of the pack team
But you said who squeaks into groups or squeaks into playoffs rather and then kind of gets like sixth place
And that's not what they're on course for now
I want to see if they can actually keep that up so what brought them to this point and how they get so good in the group stage
First of all, I think they've stepped up the gameplay. I think Nico is incredibly inconsistent like Quinn said I fully agree
I think also my boy GTJ mr.
Got to juice he's been popping if you watch this guy play his camera is going everywhere because he's looking at the next move
You know, he's gonna go through the gate. He's gonna keep you mid this guy. He's the real stuff
Back to you look off back to me. Yeah
We have these, DZ and now we have someone who makes you dizzy with the camera movement if you're watching it from his perspective
But yeah, they they looked very good
They topped the group only losing one B03 and their drafts look good. This is what matters
I think they kind of pickings themselves heroes that are relatively easy to execute. They're not over complicating things and
Because how do you feel about days? He you coached him during your short era?
Oh yeah!
My boy Tamir Tokpanov, this guy is good.
I remember also like even before he played like before we took him or before he's now
back in his team, there was a clip of Crit where he's like watching Na'Vi Jr. and he's
like this day's guy, he's good.
This is like two or three years ago.
Wow.
So like you know it's not just people that think he's good, it's also like the best players
which is good.
Crit specifically does think very highly of him.
Exactly.
And like this guy, his Rubik, his SD, especially his this guy Spellcasting is very very good.
Yeah, you said that his hoodwink is really good because day's nuts like he can always like plant that plant that the now with
Far away. Yeah far away being in hoodwink meta, especially that extra bit of a you know the damage the 440 build he shines on the hero
Yeah
And because the neutral item also
You can you can run around
Yeah day's nuts is really good
And now it's a tier 5 neutral item so
Kind of hard to get it
I'm so surprised that they pick axe over puck like they just hand Makoto's puck
I also think puck is like pretty good against axe generally
It's not a very easy hero to call if you do call him he dies, but like you won't call Makoto
It's just not gonna happen. So to me. It's like why why this trade?
So they have they're the team that has played the most axe
I think PMA has played this hero seven times maybe even eight times with a pretty good successor
Maybe like six and one or seven and one and perhaps also if you look at Niko's hero pool
I mean because you know that Mikota will pick pop right there. So yeah, it's likely hood
They first pick it. Yeah, so like maybe there they know that Nico has a lot of heroes
He's played night stalker in this matchup before they lost silencer like
Surely they have ideas. I'm not saying I love them. You probably don't love them
But they've got some stuff that they want
I'm just gonna bring up some stats that I have had ready for previous Valakia about Mikota spot because they were
Picking it a lot. So picked in the first phase
He had 50% win rate picked in the second phase 14 times in the first one
They picked it four times sitting at 85% win rate there shakes in the last phase
He had 100% win rate
So we've got an opportunity to potentially counter this buck who picked in the first phase doesn't look as good
Yeah, I mean it definitely is a hero that like in a free pocket. Let's just like call it thrown a towel
There's no winning so when you have counters it does like I agree
It's probably Nightstalker of always fear are the most likely ones you're looking at Niku
I think he's played Void Spirit some of the most of anyone so far this tournament and he's also like won some games compared to a
Lot of players. I think it's done pretty badly on this hero
It's it's not that strong right now, and it does take a good bit of fast
He was like playing in pubs of me and stuff too before this event
So it's a hero he's comfortable on and I'm curious to see which one they do
I think the Night Stalker is kind of fake to be honest like I think a good puck player you buy a four staff
You space this guy you understand that he wants to jump you there's a lot of matchups like that
or like some guy is focusing you, so you just wait.
Like waiting in Team Pipe is a really important skill.
Then if you think that's like one of the more fake ones,
you just lean on the Void Spirit?
Probably.
I think Void Spirit's not fake.
Like it's skill based,
like a good puck and play against Void Spirit, that's okay.
But it is a counter.
And what are we thinking about this axe?
Is this like why axe straight first phase pick,
first overall pick?
Is this because ninth fall is not going to be able
to PKB TP out or what?
That's a good point. That might be it. I don't think we need any more analysis.
No, I think from what I've heard, I think it's PMA guy, the kind of guy who, like he sometimes is really confident and gets his hero first dazed.
And I think when you have a player like that who just likes a hero and they just want to play it, I think you take advantage of that and you just give it to people.
Because a lot of players get scared, especially going into later phase. They don't get counter picked and this and that.
So if you have a guy who's just like, just give me, it's like a 33 way of playing, right?
You just first pick his hero and then he wins the game, but that feels really good in traffic.
This also seems like a game one of a series experimentation.
Let's see if we can get away with our axe, let's see if I can give Makoto his puck, and if we can still break it.
One of the big things I see also with axe is the fact that this hero really helps like your four win the lane,
because Battlehunger is just a freaking stupid spell.
Like, your four can nearly never lose the trade to the five.
One battle hunger, you keep laning the forties, beating on the five, and you're kind of chilling.
I wonder if this is more of a steel pick or if they just wanted it, like, totally on its own.
You know, I wonder if the stealing aspect of it entered their mind at all.
Because it's like something that comes up sometimes, you talk about, was this a steel pick or not?
And I tend to feel like, when a pick, you did it for the reason of stealing, it tends to not work.
That worked well.
Yeah, I think it's, you tend to lose.
Are you like a get?
Like that hero has counters and you're like not thinking about that hero's counters
You're too busy thinking about so I wonder if that was like played into their heads at all
It was just like mirror likes line we picked lion. I feel like it's mirror likes line
It is his most played hero. He's played it six times and he's only lost one game over six times
Yeah, very possible. I do like this talent here a lot
I'm keep going keep going back the bedroom team. Yeah, or these talents are team
They kind of brought it to drink the lock yet previously where they play super aggressive
But a lot of early rotations for six minutes into the game
You will have to support on your ass constantly as a middle laner
So I want to see what the pairing is gonna be whether this is gonna be some like dust pep of a situation
Or they're gonna be looking maybe towards position range position for which is gonna be most likely hoodwink for days
Because you already discussed about the hero plus the main combination. There it is
Because they're not just striking like a team, they have specific ideas and they will just execute them off cooldown in a way.
Like they've shown this exact double pick against Puck before.
I do think it has a lot of strengths, but just like everything else in Dota, it has counter play.
Like both Sidencer and NS struggle against similar items, whether it's a 4 step from the park or a 4 step from someone else.
So, and there's also overlap when it comes to NS, Ag, Sidencer, it's very low damage.
They're going to have to cover that with other heroes.
Yeah, it is true.
I think you also have damage issues against...
I mean, Ursa, I think is...
It's good against Axe, but in some ways I think it's kind of bad against Silencer, Nightstalker,
because these heroes play off kiting you, like they curse you, Silencer, Nightstalker, like Nuke's you one time,
and he's sort of running around, flying in the sky.
And so while Ursa is obviously good for the lane, and it's like Nightfall classic hero,
I don't think it's like some super amazing pick.
When I think of stuff that's good against Nightstalker, Silencer, I think of Wave Push.
I think of stuff that just gives the lanes out,
And now the Nightsarger ulti counterplay is not there, because you have random units that run around and give vision.
Also against Axe, but to me, versus not actually that amazing here, you can't even buy Axe against Axe, you just die on sustain time.
It is by far, in my mind it's Nightfall's best hero, so it has a lot to do, I would also say with their overall comfort, and I guess also just having another body that goes in.
And also when I think about Keori, he's a range 5 guy, doesn't really play any melee
guys so I think melee carries slightly go up when you're also lane with this guy.
With Warlock, I have not been impressed with this hero, I'm not gonna lie, ever since this
hero lost his stupid grimoire, it looks like a boss.
Yeah, they were spending it a lot during Valakia and I gotta say I have no idea why they're
still picking this hero.
I assume that Nightfall loves the lane with the hero that does allow him to have a pretty
free lane in terms of what he wants to do, he wants to get that landing stage untouched
without the death and then go back to jungling to farm his battlecury and this is a tricorps
in the first phase, first two phases which are kind of rarely seen.
It's kind of cool, I like it and I think it's good against what Aurora has, like to go back
to that previous point, I look at Aurora's heroes, they don't have any beef, anyone who's
okay getting jumped and they also don't really have any ghost push, most of the heroes have
to kind of be there to actually kill the wave besides like fatal bonding a wave or something and
you're playing against all this vision you're playing against a bunch of jump right there's traps
with Nightstalker this global like on a stylistic level I would much prefer to play now these heroes
I love the TA also like got the juice this guy on TA it's probably one of his best heroes I also
like it actually quite a lot against Ursa I think just you have this your own hero that likes to
play for ages a lot you also wanted a hero that dishes out a lot of damage which you will into
to X-Pulse and Nightstalker giving you silence and vision overall, I'm a huge fan of that
draft so far.
I also think that Aurora's draft, this type of a draft when you have Ursa, you are relying
on getting that first stages, getting the second ages, being the aggressive team taking
over the map, getting the Tormentor going for all these objectives with Nightstalker
and Temporal Assassin.
I don't think you can go for that.
I think this type of a lineup, especially because this is a mid-Nightstalker, so he's
going to be getting quite a lot of levels and something that is very difficult to deal
with. I think I'd like to be a Night Stalker in this game, playing against Warlock, pretty
much playing against any of these heroes.
If we're looking at some of the next heroes coming out, I only like, I wouldn't like SD
overall, what just happened, some thief? Classic Americans just stealing, classic. I could
SD, SD just because there's an Ursa, otherwise I don't really like the pick, but in this draft it could fit.
If not that hero, anyone that gives follow-up damage, I would say, is kinda nice.
So, SD, otherwise, XD?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of, a lot of these late-stage warfix come down to just what does the guy want?
Yeah.
Because I think Fjords have a lot of fey on their hero generally,
because they have this sort of like free-spirited vibe.
You think about like a 9-plus,
but even if someone like not as crazy as him,
like a tofu or something,
it's kind of like it was always when we got late in the draft,
it was just like, what do you want to play?
And then as long as it's like within reason and it's not like,
I don't know, the stupidest thing you've ever heard of,
then it's like, yeah, just play whatever, it's fine.
So if you want some follow-up damage,
then Snapfire does fit those goals if it was comfortable for them.
You should be like at least a lot of offlaners are quite good against silencer
You know you want or us to like kind of live through like their initial jump or burst
There's heroes like some maybe an underlord that could work as you buy crimson pie because you're playing into ns ta like having a crimson buyer
Or overall armor is super good
Maybe even a hero like it may be said a melee for that could look at dark seer still think it's a playable hero overall
You'll build greaves, turns and pipe. I'm not looking for a specific hero, but rather items that give you teamfight.
Yeah, I would be okay with some primal beast. He has no stuns that he's playing against in the lane,
or if WS wants to maybe go something to save his teammate, I think Stampede, never mind.
This is a poor Phoenix, huh? Against Silencer.
And Snifar.
But it ruins Naisaka, turns into daytime Naisaka's like, I don't want to do that.
Yeah, sure you countered this, but other than that, I'm not a big fan of this.
It is his...
It gets shredded.
That's also a bad one.
Yeah, I think we have like five different things that are very good against Phoenix, but he's also like once he came into the scene before he joined Aurora, when he was playing for Chinese teams, he was kind of the Phoenix gamer as well as how he came into the scene.
So this is probably one of his better overall heroes.
I'm just not a big fan of it.
It's very interesting in lane against TA, but I think overall this game in mid-game will literally be won by the team that jumps
I think this Phoenix can look like an absolute bot if Navi have like initial vision
They go with global Nightstalker ult and nothing happens and it's a bit similar for Aurora in my opinion if I see them jump first
I think they're gonna be very happy dropping the egg. It's daytime. You're chilling, but I don't know I'm vibing with this Navi draft
Yeah, I definitely agree. I think the the one thing that I'm curious about is like it's Makoto puck
So is the Night Stalker actually real because I think it's a little bit fake like it's not bad
And it's a good Night Stalker game
So I don't issue with it on a conceptual level but on a practical level sometimes these hipster midpicks
They just like they don't quite click and it's hard to know exactly why but it just feels a little off
And I think that is possible. What happens this game?
So my eyes are on can you actually execute this?
You know the hipster pick or is it like cool as if the phoenix offline is not a hipster pick
It's not as hipster as Nightstalker mid I think like one level under but I believe in the Nightstalker
I think Nico Nightstalker is kind of cool and he you know
He's been really inconsistent by this torment. He slaps inconsistency can mean both things like a low floor
But a very high so like his feeling is that we can't even see it. His floor is like undiscovered
Mariana trenched him out Everest that's the range of skills that this man brings to the table the bottom to the top
That's not a way.
Still very curious what the ideal teamfight is for Aurora, though,
because it's Makoto initiating, and then what happens next?
And then they get global silence,
and then there's no counter-initiation.
So I feel like this is going to be a very, very difficult game for Aurora.
They need to find a way to jump first.
I would also say, like, Nightfall Ursa,
he's the one that drives the game forward.
He's got to do it.
Put him in the driver's seat.
Let's see if he can take advantage of it.
Let's get into a game number one with Gareth.
It's gonna be fun.
As Nami got their group to the playoffs, hardly any easy group for them, Aurora did very well out of theirs, and the deck looked like draft wise though, SPG, kind of heavily going towards Nami.
My favorite part of that entire panel was the cost of the Nightstalker impression.
You know, the egg gets dropped, and I don't want to be here. I don't know what the hell that impression was.
It's kind of spot-on though, when I think of Nightstalker parts, that's when I think it's some guy in the trees going like,
hey, jump in and kill this guy, and then he's like, oh, and hey.
And so it's like, well, it's just like, cost himself. I don't think he's cost playing a roleplay.
It's just his him. Good point. It might just be LeCoste. He's a Nightstalker player, hard.
This is one of those heroes that, it's just such an iconic throw to hero. It's so badass.
It looks amazing. You always feel like a god.
And then you lose.
It just doesn't win. Like, I just don't have faith in this hero to carry it over to finish line.
I would love to see Niko pop off on here because he loves playing these kind of heroes, these hipster counterpicks,
where he can really just abuse you like the mid on dines, right? He played for a long time.
I love watching this. It's super hype, so I'm wishing him the best of luck.
He's just up against a really good puck, as Quinn said, and these really good pucks, man, they should get out at everything sometimes.
If they're in the flow state, they're in the zone, they're feeling the game right.
Makoto, he could have zero deaths in this game, this might be against some really big counterpicks, so...
A lot of the line here for Niko in the mid lane in Game 1.
Exit of Chastify, 4 staff BKB that weighs out of it.
It's not just one thing the plug is worried about, it's a specific sequence of spells you've got to be careful of.
And if you can break free of that sequence, it's looking pretty good.
100% also kind of cool to see the TA come back in here because I feel like there are some games we should have seen this hero
maybe even out of mid, though I know that's going to be blasphemy against a lot of mid players.
Yeah, some of these things are weak in the meta, but in the right game they're still very strong.
And so I'm glad to see this hero get a little bit of play.
I don't think it's an unplanned look here by any means,
or at least how people are treating it.
Panel is very mixed on this Phoenix. I actually like them.
I think they needed a big AOE team fight control hero.
They needed someone who could also join some of the early fights with these supports.
You don't want something too slow, too big, cool down the line.
And I think it has great matchups against TA.
I think it's a really debilitating matchup against the Coreknight soccer.
And it's great against the Axe. Like he has three good Core matchups here.
Yeah, your support matchup sucks, but honestly, I think the Snapfire one is whatever.
If I'm on Core Phoenix, you don't press the egg anyway.
I mean, yeah, you're not a center around the egg.
It's Snapfire, it supports Snapfire, it can reposition the fight, run in to kill my egg with some shredder hits.
Power to him, dude, like whatever, you know, my team should be able to do something about that.
My punk, my lion, they're gonna be dead.
Exactly, because I think in the grand scheme of things, it's cores who kill egg.
supports to really ever kill egg and pro dota and especially in later games scenarios you have to be able to be
KB and hit the egg most of the time because you're assuming okay he eggs and then
Like you said what why into like AFK? There's no gold coming down
No one's getting coiled or hit versus not three-shotting this sapphire like there's a lot of issues running up and training this in the late game
So I I like
Top lane already. FMA on his first pick, AXE!
What a boss man. What a boss.
I'm not into spinning away creeps.
Warlock Ursa. I don't know. I'm a big fan of Warlock.
I don't like it in these situations where, you know,
Axe is a hero. Occasionally he wants to be playing on the tower.
Twin gate rotation from another support.
If you've got fatal bombs, you can push the lane.
He'll let you carry. You give Nightfall a good time in that little bit of a couple of minutes.
I think it's one of the support matches that can backfire really hard
if he Axe executes the lane really well.
well. Traditionally the heal against the Battlehunter, it seems nice on paper. If Axe just plays for early farms and serves mana, goes into creep cutting mode, Warlock is really bad against all players that skip the lane.
And when he starts, he's dead. I just go into the snap floor.
Now that's a nice little pick up right there. A gift, as the Axe did go for the wave cut, so he gets caught off in no man's land.
I'm going to keep you in this mid lane.
He's got six sticky charges.
I don't know if this tower seems alright, but Makoto's giving it to him.
He's launching in these clicks.
Tough matchup, honestly.
The Knights are having to play for the five minutes a day compared to that old bastard.
It's brutal.
Yeah, you have the extra little lifesteal here.
If you could sit there and right click creeps, you can kind of lane against anything,
but against most range heroes, you can't do that forever.
So you should just get B out of these lane matchups.
He's doing pretty well with CS, why so?
So, not a bad start for Niko.
when you go all things to consider.
Yeah, pretty even with the puck.
And itemized for that nice talker.
And last time, this pletrio of heroes
acts as their NS. They used to go to the
Nima Galaxies puck very early on in the group stage.
We saw this. Handomitis, BKB,
Swatch Drust, Melafire.
Lots of aggressive tools to just get on top of heroes.
Expecting some attention here.
He's got the Jews and Riddies.
They're onto Mira, but WS with this
damage over time takes out the silencer.
He's got the Jews.
He's gonna turn back on the Phoenix now, fire his spirits and a lotus in the pocket of this Phoenix.
Hey, it's not dying.
Ah, makes him far too difficult to kill.
Is he really just-
Oi!
Hoo-hoo!
I was about to say, is he really just gonna stand there and get scybladed?
Yeah, he's playing!
Though they're not level one scybladed.
And PMA, he's gonna kill both as well.
Shadow Word on him, Furious Wife stacked up and another Tate Pound.
Sidelanes.
Going wild for Aurora.
It's just a bloodbath out here.
It's really big to get this axe chased on again. I think Warlock is really weak in these lane cutting scenarios like Darkseer tends to abuse his hero, Venel, some of these cheesier lane skippers.
So the fact that you can find this extra kill would get some experience, like Kauri up here, especially when he's not getting a lot of small camps off.
It's a big deal for this Warlock nearly, and we're trying to get to these early level 6 and use it as soon as possible.
Hey, let's play and head on.
On nighttime now and immediately Niku just runs up with Kurozai, showing you what the
nice small thing to do.
What's up, bro?
What are you gonna do about it?
I'm just in three times.
Okay, right.
Well, that's my job done.
So you're all gonna snowball really fast in these nighttime periods with the new midnight
fees.
You just get a good fight, you insta-heal back up off a big creep, you go to the next fight
and the 30 seconds later you're back to full.
The resource management is insane.
You don't have to buy region items, I'm telling you.
So, it's a big change to the hero in terms of fundamentally how he works.
Gives you a lot more freedom in these nighttime periods,
you can just kind of run, ramp it in a fight.
And then even if it takes all your resources to kill someone, normally that feels really bad.
Well, now you can back up the full, and now you can do it again.
So, there's not that same punishment for a mid in terms of, like, Storm.
I use all my mana and kill the support.
You just worked on them.
Is that even a good play?
It's like, ugh, dead on the map.
This hero, never dead on the map, so...
All plays are good plays, when it comes down to it.
Come on, it's Kihei!
He didn't burn down!
He's dead!
Oh, the core matchups!
His finish just burns him near against the kill, but there's a trade out while middle lane
the dive under tower from Niko.
Looking at Kiori, but there's a coil out of Mikoto, snapping on the nice stalker.
He's got a big wand.
That's fine.
Did take a couple of reactions out of Aurora to defend this mid lane.
This is Ascension though.
Didn't even get a support kill.
It was a little rough for me to hear connect the final creepy as well. Let's just try to kill the Kodo
I wanted to go in he did spend the orbs today move in with a cookie and a lap down
Even bringing rings the ready is along for the ride. I guess we'll instill that's super nice
Expecting that it does leave these side lanes yellow open as well that lane dragging by the axe keep you back to the tier 2
I didn't respect the end of that expansion.
So we'll trade out wisdom trines.
I think there's always a possibility of contesting a 7-minute wisdom trine with the core knight's
docker because you're just so strong in this period.
Still no egg for WS, you know, he's a long way off that.
I think it does for the Phoenix hurt here.
He did get some pressure on the team, but he got...
The one side blade kill really set him back, yeah?
And then that other trade that happened was a result of that side blade kill.
You can see a world of those Phoenix might have been up 2-0 instead of down 1-2.
Crazy that TA has had pressure put on her, and it's not looked like the best lane, still top of the net worth, it's 3,500.
Yeah, Templar's ass and things. She's very high level, got a lot of solo XP still.
Lane phase looking pretty good here for Adi.
Okay, now top doesn't really want to see him lane-y as might fall anymore, level 6.
Oh, so fast!
Two supports wandering around.
Did- was that Nightfall's courier that died in mid lane?
What?
Ha ha ha!
I swear.
That he's just killed in mid?
Yeah, he killed Nightfall's courier mid.
Interesting.
Was he running voidstone across the map?
That's ridiculous.
Come on.
That is a nightfall thing to do, isn't it?
I mean, your courier cannot be KBTP out in that mid like you gotta watch.
Ha ha ha!
The mirror's gonna start on the night still, okay?
It's a takey void.
He's got 1600 health and 1 charges.
That's just not happening, is it?
They'll take more damage out of the Arcane Curse than they did to him.
I'm not sure I'd agree with that play at all. Like they're bringing the Earths in.
Wrestle with 5! No chance to supernova or anything!
He's getting abused. Got to choose to play this super well down here.
I don't know, straight away it won't be one lane.
He's gonna be a problem. He's really bad.
His counterfeit that was your last pick in the Phoenix did not win lane. It's gonna have to play for behind.
And the TA is going to have so much space as well, like having an extended laning phase
as a TA feels good, and then having these tanky playmaker calls that can actually front
for you while you farm ancients and sit back a little bit.
I'm just going to do a short explosion into the end.
Act in the meantime though, and then finally stepping out in this lane, and it's going
to take him down on a K-Ori on a killing spree on this wallop, but knife all the damage
really.
3-0 start.
It's going to be a nice little level 6 timing here.
Where's his book, son?
No book.
No more book.
Very sad life.
Right.
Nightstalker Hand of Midas.
This item, everyone's flames it.
It says it's garbage.
And then we'll come back and attack it, because Niku,
even without the Midas, is running at them.
He's a master.
Three heroes here.
Even the fourth TPing is Mikoto.
He wants to react to this.
Nightfall, a little isolated.
Lion also TPing out.
See if Niku goes for a second round.
Definitely might go back in here.
Keeps tabs on the Ursus Escape.
Splice over the trees and days ready just to go in under this tower. PMA will help out such riddies has arrived for some more intelligence to steal
You've got no more book
He's illiterate now warlock having his insta stolen two and nightfall when he can't even tee be out of this one
Just gonna get surrounded on all sides. It's the main steel as well
There you go. Yeah, you were the double kill gets the dunk down and Makoto look I've got the juice that
Yeah, he's moved into the twin gate. Coil needed defensively. This nice fogger far too tanky to contend with, they'll have to bail.
What a takeoff.
So, no further chase there.
Get out of where you're caught.
Hey, you stay loose. Losing Coil here though feels pretty bad.
Look at the hex on the stylus, sir. Didn't stop the nice fogger BBs.
Yeah, what?
Let's just get the three beyond riddies, I guess?
God, they should have gone up there. That was a long TP.
Maybe I fogged last minute on that tree line.
Okay. He could dead anyway.
Fatal bonds.
Ah, chop him in.
There's a damage chunking him down and there's some little imps following him.
We've got two wand. High five, 30 health.
He's flying with a tower killing them.
Mirror and Makoto also contesting enemy stacks and this BMA tried to clear them.
I think we're dead, that's enough, but now the puck!
I'm chasing land in from Day's Mirror, gonna get blown up while WS dives forward!
Get the damage onto Riddies, and I don't need more respawns because Kaori and Nifor cut across and dealt with the snapfire!
This is a classic Na'Vi game, just a bloodbath.
Just straight brawls all over the place, Aurora. Came to match it here.
And I like the idea, you always want to get too progressive in these down periods for the Night's Salker.
You're playing five on one. You have to take advantage. You don't want to just KFK during day and then get pounded during night. So
Make some moves, take some space away from them.
Guess that's not done. You're all losing a decent amount of ink here.
He's actually gotten a couple of the bonus intelligence because the unit was silenced when he died.
Oh, so he's already up to nine. Some of this came from the pod which kind of sucks. There's another plus two there.
Swog.
Climbing to climb in the chart. He's getting there.
A couple of support kills, yes, mate.
For Aurora.
Just never dealing with this TA or Night Sparger.
You're looking at...
Got the juice of ATK, it's 7k net worth already.
He is dead of play.
The problem.
And you're onto the axe again, though.
Like you said, they're really building up this tempo.
They're picking up the pace, getting towards that enemy wisdom shrine.
It's still like pub or something.
We're just gonna run around, killed people.
It's a group strategy or some macro idea.
And why are there four heroes here?
Exactly.
God knows.
That's what I'd be saying.
Like the place we tried isn't even up yet.
I was literally looking at the timer.
I'm like, oh, they're contesting with the trust.
No, they're just ruining this guy's day.
That's way to go.
You have the mightiest done on the nice stalker, so
it's going to be able to catch up here.
And as you mentioned, this TA is definitely the outlier on this game.
Without the juices, just
mega bad here.
It's huge.
If he goes to the fight, dies. This will reset a lot of momentum,
but it could have like a perfect
gameplay or triple bounty runes feel
We can spend so much money, no one's here!
No one's played down here, oh.
Okay, it's a very happy game, probably with a gold.
So, can you explain why I have the Midas good here?
Oh, for Nightstalker.
So, I feel like this item has kind of been put in the bin.
So, Midas is objectively a terrible item.
I will not defend it.
It is basically a negative price for a long time with extremely minimal payoff.
I feel like there's a butt coming.
You do get attack speed.
So basically, it's only salvageable on heroes that benefit from the attack speed to some degree.
You're basically banning on heroes that you don't know what else to buy, and you need some innervier item that's gonna help you farm.
So you don't want to rush BKB.
He's not going to buy some male strumble battle gear or anything, right? He does not raid Inspire.
Basically, his might is good, no.
Okay, so what would I buy here instead?
I think the other item is back.
The other item is armlet on this hero.
Oh, that's cool.
And I think there is a very solid argument that he should be getting armlet over Midas
because if the armlet translates into one or two extra kills, it has already paid itself off far more than the Midas.
Here any similar attack speed, efficiency, stuff like that.
The Midas is a more consistent option if you aren't going to get kills, but I always ask myself,
why are you playing Nightstalk if you're not getting kills, you know?
And the game's already kind of not going your way. So, I'm not a fan of this, but I think it's...
There's a logic to it at least on this hero compared to a lot of others just because it doesn't have a good small cheep item other than armlet and
A lot of players don't like playing with armlet honestly. I think it feels awkward to play with
You have to be a real sadistic freak to play with armlet
Aurora looking to try and get something before it turns nighttime again
And...
Ah, the very wise is stepping back though.
It's looking to get caught in this violence over towards the ancients.
As the Nightstalker and the axe are looking to reset, they'll force the egg,
pulling up the lion, killing him off with a massive swipe out, egg down as well,
while the defensive coil and golem get spent on the Nightstalker,
knowing it's about to turn night time.
And PMA, while the chase is on,
he's up to this high ground with kisses over the top of Kaori,
got that juice, just comes in with a double kill.
Slices into Aurora.
Aggressive move, not paying off at all!
Now V with a perfect response!
Very aggressive.
You know Ascension's up, you know Global's up.
They're just going in two-man, trying to find some pick-off on the TA.
Maybe the pressure of...
Got the juices insane game here, getting to Aurora a little bit.
Now you're gonna head into that nighttime.
He's out of control.
How did this is?
You just stop...
Stop touching this guy.
It's not ending well for you.
Hide in the trees.
Stay in the fog.
Don't show on the map. They're gonna try again. I don't know bad. It's just hasn't worked
I have WS is just dived in on this I'm now with days and riddies nearby the two-man cookie lambs
The coat so I'm gonna trade back onto the snap wire
WS is ticking low, but I choose you got away
That didn't even feel like a win for Aurora
It's like they barely got out of there even though they got a kill out of it
And then top lane is setting up as well.
They've got vision a little deeper, watching Nightfall move into the jungle.
And he's finished his battle fury about a minute and a half ago, so this is his acceleration period,
where he's trying to rush into the blink of the basher.
This particular case is trying to catch up.
Some recovery needs to be done here to close that gap,
especially if you want to contest some of these early rush ons.
Kind of got the juices games are run right now in terms of those objectives, particularly the night time of lines could be a very early rush here.
If Navi are feeling up for it, if they get a teamfight, went around the murder.
The code is just going standard, which would blink.
So no early four staffer BKB though. The third item is usually when you're going to go for it.
He's actually considering Jules now.
Straight up global for the Phoenix.
Nikko and Riddie's here, so more filling antigens. All this violence there, another plus two.
Nice little vine there for Niku.
But yeah, name of the game for Nikoto's park is going to be patience, right?
Wait till you see or hear the global sea the Night Stalker. Make your move after that.
And rely on some of the other heroes to set up as their coil is in pale, blow up days.
Get something going for themselves in this river.
And that means children for park if you can go and get it.
If you know a little bit of space for themselves, top jungle is pretty safe.
He's gone from second place down to fourth actually, even though he's had a bit of free room to maneuver.
He's not been able to clear a lot of ancients this game. It's always going to slow you down a little bit.
Especially compared to the TA here. That's where that extra juice is coming from.
It feels like it's just non-stop go time for Navi. With his blink blade mail axe.
Yes, they've got long cooldown in global and kisses, but they don't really need them
I think this team is always going no matter what. I don't use the draft this team will play that they're not trying to always go with
All gas no breaks
Let's them shrine for WS
He's going to get it and dive away
As we say that they hesitate a little bit. He just ran in there guns blazing
But it would have worked out
We can rest the team to try and connect fast enough
Steel is small, can't take that.
Didn't even get it, nevermind.
And now, if Nifolk did want to farm ancients, he's not really on the right-hand side.
Yeah, he's stealing it from you.
Fully invaded.
Split push mode for Aurora here.
Do not want to contest Niku.
Which means he will get to Miki-V here and then he's going to be an absolute beast.
He's trying to kill me.
Clicking down and slowing down at full death of the warlock.
Action to mean fire, though, has been coiled and sunrayed, so they move nuclear to that western side in Aurora, exploiting the opening.
Ah, it's a bigger kill.
Who are we thinking about going further, but this is...
Cover the retreat, and even get a kill on it's life.
I just can't move so slow.
Silence are really ruined, spell desupport.
And the Phoenix here, and the fucking Insurgory silence again.
Spells are really obnoxious here, you're gonna need some decent dis-spells built up here.
Extra loader squads at some point in this game.
Help protect each other.
Now if you have all the vision in the world just to set up for another, what, three-tap onto Kaori?
Yeah, welcome back.
You respawned and died again in quick succession while the punk is trying to juke away.
Three report your warlock, we're broke.
What are you doing?
Just a food trough.
Gobbled up by an RV?
I've got a D-Wall, man.
On the ground area.
There's no way they can access this without it.
They're just sitting here, base camp made.
Oh, he has TP's top.
What? None of that.
TP's top there, he kind of just auto-conceived Roche.
Too many they could do it fast enough.
Maybe he assumed they wouldn't try and do it in the last 30 seconds of the slide.
Look at here, but it's a PA.
Exactly, they have more than enough damage to pump into this Roche on a little device armor, so...
himself. That's now H-Fax on desktop. Hurricane flight delivered. BKB here, my nice stalker.
Let's get scary. Lots of items coinciding.
This game is getting real scary for a while. This next fight is going to be real tough if
you can't pop this supernova in a good position and protect it. Again, you can negate some
of the nice stalkers influence here. A lot depends on the positioning of the control
of the line of the stalker. You're going to have to do some heavy lifting here with
The Navi might just opt to keep farming more BKBs here.
If you're a triple BKB, you can ignore Lion and Pugsfells.
Egg becomes a lot less safe to drop.
You can kite to Ursa.
There's no more BKB control in this lineup until Vistula blade later on.
You're kind of cruising in these fights.
They might have to be an earlier Vistula here for Nightfall that he wants to do in this
game.
It's generally your best item in this Ursa Nightstalker matchup.
It's your best item in protecting Egg here.
See if he rushes it, he has eye on the basher.
Then he's skipping DKB, right?
So there's a downside to all of it here.
Just no real good options for a role other than we just want to farm a lot, because yeah,
if you get a lot of items in this game, you can kind of counteract some of the hero points
in here.
Yeah, may just get another freebie.
4K already.
Trying to do what he can on the map.
Down.
D-Wall.
Chop.
Trying to push lanes where you can.
The block is not the most efficient spell push support.
No.
It's... it's pretty tough.
That's bad.
Having to drop golems on the waves.
Maybe. We might get to that point.
Put the facial bombs on them and kill them.
There's also this real threat and fear of the way the Axe can play these teamfights.
Getting in and out and having multiple rounds of calls.
Especially when PMA, you know, it's a first pick Axe and being kind of quiet,
Lane wasn't tremendously good for him.
So you haven't felt that axe blink call blade mail yet, especially as an Aurora core, and
when it hits you the first time, they're already 6k up, that could just be a signal of the
end.
Especially with a big smoke move like this, they've left got the juice top, he pushes
out one more wave and then trying to pivot down to the bottom lane.
Nice man moving here, outmaneuvering Aurora right now.
It's gonna force Aurora back into their high ground, we're not gonna be awaiting, this
This is a fight T.A. can connect to.
Don't I scan this so they know they're in the vicinity?
But Axe is gonna break smoke.
First point of contact is Lyon getting obliterated by this BKB Night Stalker.
Parking in the meantime did get called.
Caught it up and changed the gun.
McConaugher disappears.
Aurora.
Scatter the win now. Back to your high ground.
That was a fight without the T.A. even.
Niko's gonna go in here.
There's no way he's gonna go in.
Go on Niko.
He's got near damage.
What'd you say?
A little Jimmy down the well.
A little Jimmy down the well?
What's that for?
Is that some English thing?
That's Lassie, isn't it?
What?
Lassie!
Go and find him!
Oh, the movie.
That was a deep floor reference right there.
Got the juice.
Easy tier two.
Oh, hello. There's the golem.
See ya.
So Niko didn't go in and then turned data.
Should've gone in.
That's a little result of that.
Sometimes the restraint kills you.
Nice, also me feeling bold.
Pushing down this bottom lane with the rest of the team connecting.
Daytime.
Time to do something in this game.
I've got a hex to start.
Chainsaw on this Templar assassin.
She's got Cookie, Force, Pike, and still holds the Aegis.
VKV getting delivered as well.
Very difficult target to bring down once, nevermind twice.
They'll get the Aegis at least.
I don't have a looking...
And now V getting in with a call,
Dodge does come down, doesn't get called up,
and the turnaround from Aurora on the TA,
Refraction BKB close snap and gone.
I asked the next short work of her,
while PMA gets turned on and focused as well.
Stick timing from WS.
Maybe he just got lucky, but it kinda looked like
he expected that call coming in,
just dropped it a little early there.
That makes all the difference.
If he gets called TA BKBs,
they might be able to burst that Phoenix down.
Stick timing from him,
There was no BKB on the axe there either just an awkward fight for Navi to take
Those are the kind of fights when I look at this team that I feel they have to be a bit more disciplined about I think you just get out here
Don't have your night stalker
You know your TA is gonna resplot into an awkward position if you let the first death go down you just don't have your axe BKB
You don't have global here
You're missing a lot that has done a lot of work for you this game and you can look at this fight and go
Yeah, okay, if we get some mature dream and act all agnostic often winning, but I think that's my kind of fight
it's just lower-ward high-risk. What are you even fighting for here, right?
You're not fighting for map control because you're on your side of the map.
Yeah, there's no roach, no towers.
I think that's the kind of thing this young squad needs to get a little more
disappointed about is calling when to say, hey, there's points this game and
there's a lot of them where we can be hyper-aggressive. That was not one of them.
Especially with them using what, triple-four staff, whatever it was, all of those
escape tools in the TA were already spent so they didn't have any more
Disengaged little chase anyway.
Niku's gonna come out with the Ascension though and slide down the wall lock.
Straight back to work here.
We're on the map. More time for TA to farm. You do have triple BKB out on the map right now across your cores, so
You should be happy to take any fight where that cooldown is available.
And now it's just about Aurora getting to their own BKBs probably so they can dispel some of these silences and
and man fight the night stalker.
Totes Carter, dying a gate?
Yeah, okay.
Pull a little baby Roshan.
Get through the door.
There's the Agonim Shard.
Down the drain for a couple of minutes.
During this night time,
you could have expected them to go and play forward,
but they're sitting back a little bit.
Trying to regroup after pushing the lanes.
I'm enjoying forces down with mid.
So they're good options of where they want to move to.
I don't know where's Fetchin.
I don't even know where Warlock is.
He just put the fatal bombs on the hut.
So Stealth Eul's has a flank.
Warlock down low.
They've got in onto this nice door cover of the P.A.
Coldblade mail.
Culls the Ursa and now the chase is on.
Aurora have to get the hell out of here.
TP from the Phoenix, successful.
Warlock, nah, not the same luxury.
He's gonna get dunked.
Well, Nightstalker, he's hot on the tail of the puck.
And the character is going to all be a little further away,
but there's Temporal Assassin quickly shifting into fifth gear, chasing forward.
There's another orb, Eul's and Blank in a couple of seconds.
So, Eul's up the Nightstalker, Cole comes in though, and down goes the puck now.
He could not afford to die there with a newly purchased gem to try and get rid of these traps.
They've not noticed it though, right?
They actually didn't see it, okay.
Maybe get back here.
PMA still doesn't see it.
It's falling to the bottom of the marionet trench.
If I got to try and recover it off Courier, it would be a big recovery.
I don't know, Phoenix. He's falling to the top.
I'll see God. He can't act, but he's probably just dead anyway.
Map's becoming rough to play, and they did not get that gem back.
Got picked up and spotted by PMA in the end.
Such a big death in terms of your map control here, and...
What a call on that Earthside. I think Nightbotch didn't want to tumbled.
Maybe he just doesn't think that Axe is going to call him like that so quickly.
Just pull the trigger, but you don't have BKB on Ursula, so if you don't pop hold, you can just get a hundred to zero.
There's no wiggle room at all.
Now you're losing that last outer tower.
Tired map, but once the Navey, trying to play out these two lanes, went through top.
still no great chance to go high ground or anything but aurora have such a limited
amount of space to actually play with they are in full defense mode they still see
anything at least nothing useful one board in the bottom of the bottom part of
man not doing a lot not really doesn't even see the croakers man we've got two
minutes to wait until next gross a lot of time to consider options and think
about how they want to approach potentially big it's gonna ship this
This is just a rush to daytime so far.
Which is really nice for a horror hero.
You probably still have a Dark Ascension, but at least it's something you've kind of played for in a round.
You might have the Ursa BKB by then.
Well, I think that is a must contest objective here.
You need to take this Aegis away from Navi.
You don't have a chance this game.
The whole fire already done for Niku.
That is the one good thing about this Nightstalker.
We were discussing the Midas.
Why is it kind of eyeballing this hero?
This hero just...
It's about Ascension.
It's about his kit.
You're picking this hero for the spells.
He's not a very item-dependent hero in the sense of...
He's a beast without items, as long as you have BKB, you can go in and hit people.
Kind of doing 90% of what the hero does, which gives you some freedom to buy other stuff a little faster.
This is one of the best nullifier heroes in the game.
He's not really the best Flash Farmer either, right? He's not really far stacks or anything like that.
So when he is out on the map, waiting in the trees and hunting, he needs something to...
Lift him up a little bit.
Actually, he's finally going to get his BKB.
So some silver linings here for Aurora.
This is also why there's a solid argument that you should go BKB on the pocket in these types of games as opposed to, or as opposed to four staffs' jewels,
because if this nice stalker is eventually going to go with an old-fire build, then you're just completely dead.
And Makoto, he gets caught by this, he's gone.
Aurora knows that they can't see that, and wait, they've got to make a move of the road, the global gives that cover for the last stalker to get out of there.
Sunray's burning him.
Niko gets a weapon. Oil! Oil! Makoto doesn't land it!
So that's BKB out of the Phoenix, spells spent, stealth jewels now from the park and a dumpster from Niko.
I don't know, but the knife's still gonna be shredded. I turn on him, egg use dust, the puck will fall, axe now gone, and I'll be the one to lose two calls.
Okay, interesting. A jewels bait, I guess.
I'm sure he meant that.
Did Niko really have nothing to go steal off of or anything?
He didn't have a creep time.
He jumped back in there with basically no HP.
And now Roshan's respawning.
It's that daytime spawn that could be huge for Aurora.
If they see it, they should be checking this pit right now.
They're being a little lazy on the map.
You have a daytime Rosh, no night stalker, two cores off the map for Navi.
You're not checking Rosh instantly.
Maybe the TA is strong enough to contest that on her own, but I think you still have to at least threaten the idea here
Maybe they call this without the puck I don't want to go
I feel like a buyback. You're just missing egg. You're missing your VTVs. I kind of get it. I think TA does with his fight
You never know though like you could have ended up a position where you scout this erosion for some reason TA TV's bottom, you know
Butterfly is looking real good on God to juice right now
That's more pressure on life falls itemization here. You know, he feels pressure to get a fast abyssal scheme
He needs to be to be in this game now. I need to empty be in this game
They're all great items on her so buddies really under the gun here to make it work in the fight never ending shopping list
When will it end?
And they're under radiant vision this whole time as well
Na'Vi knows exactly what's going on. Both die to the Force and wandered out a little on their own.
See what this Na'Vi's smoke connects onto.
They have everything available again, so Rort didn't really get a lot of downtime other than some time before.
You are about to get dark as hell.
Straight on the Ursa. They've got backup here with Warlock and Lion, but the Global just makes sure they can't cast any spells.
BKB and Rage spent for the Kisses. Look at that damage with Niku coming up the chop.
coming up the chop. They forced them all back but no one dropped just yet. Ursa is
going to get munched on now by Nekr's nuts. Cook him forward and kill him off, then focus
the egg to turn and deal with WS. Two cores now down for 70 seconds with another core.
They've caught out the wall. Dunking in onto Mira. Oh, down you go.
Beautiful team fight from them. They know if they start on Nightfall, it's such a great
fight no matter what. Cause you're just going to dump the global, you're going to dump the
kisses. All of a sudden the positioning becomes really terrible for Aurora. The Ursa has to
The popular BKB are both likely both early on and once he does, he has to commit and find a kill, otherwise the fight is effectively over.
There's just no way to bail him out, like we saw mid the night saw her go jump there, able to bail him out with 4 stats cookie reset here.
How do you bail Nightfall out of this situation?
When you're global? No way.
Yeah, exactly, so you're just locked in the cage and they're just gonna run at you. They're gonna knock clump, split up, isolate heroes on the back side.
Just take you down.
We're gonna attempt to stun and reheal them.
I'm not gonna pay off them, you spent the egg, you died, just not stop from there on our.
Don't get the dunk. Double kill for PMA.
We still don't have enough dispels for this global reel.
They technically have some, but you're using them in awkward spots.
There's an A on this for the puck, but there's already a nullifier on the field, and now
it just feels like you're lacking some damage.
Who's actually going to do damage in this game?
First, the plus base?
Yeah, it's got to be spells.
It means W is surviving in the fight.
Phoenix can't output a lot because I have to sit there and play for Fog, and it's so
difficult for him.
Obviously, Aurora have to just eat their entire team in there.
Like, get on the TA?
Yeah, you have to just send this lion in, blink hex a big core, and the second that happens,
just instantly go in.
Donk Nile.
Or just annihilate this first target and drag Navi into a quick fight.
Well, there goes Mikoto.
He gets in.
He's going to get turned on quickly though, Sunray healing him, Golden Drop, but already
dunked down.
The damage looks good, though.
The fatal pawn is spreading it around onto Neat Cure.
stalker and the axe, both falling.
Not bad.
There's G.A. though.
Got the Jews for the Cookie on Two, they stuck me in his tracks.
Oh Phoenix and Arsha, where are you running boys?
Into the trees, hide away, there's no picnic to be had back there.
There's T.A.'s coming for you.
Can WS fight this?
Got to achieve his vessel part.
I mean, here it doesn't age this.
He's thinking about it, but then there's a jump in from the temple assassin.
Arsha, wanted to get onto the snapfire, nice, you will step down,
But first life already gone for this TA while the Arsler is gonna be sealed up by the Sunray
He's got a bit of distance now temporal assassin pike forward jumped to the high ground with the earth shot
But they've got the trap a teepee home. Oh, I got it being fogged and you can get back to fountain
What a sick teepee right on that ramp?
Just didn't have the vision. It was right after the trap pop
Stick Duke from nightfall. What a turn from Aurora
I thought they were gonna be able to turn there cuz I fooled the master of teepees
He really is man, even without the bee give me he gets the job done
down 20k finding a way to bring some big cores down that puck lived a very long
time even under that nullifier surprisingly tanky and that's the kind
of fight where there's a moral out of can come together when fixed around a
set point with egg debilitating a night stalker and you can just kind of
outload all the damage together you're in a very close spot don't have to chase
the fight's not getting super spread out these heroes aren't kiting you on the
backside someone's dying someone else getting called like you said you can't be
scared right you've got to say I'm some hero in someone has to think my life is
a resource I have to spend my HP pool my hero life to go and get something big
how's my girls job should get nightfall to MKB here big upgrade brain does do a
lot of damage you can sit there and wait on some of these big boys did I
I don't see, there's five of Vice on the snap slide, how do you stop that?
So Blink Hacks is there, multiple ways to approach this fight.
First up is Axe, much stalker's the second layer.
See ya.
Yeah, the third.
25 for Got the Juice already, so that Mel Bash online.
Another issue to deal with, there will be a refresher for Riddus in this game for Double Global coming very quickly here.
And Double Global is gonna be really difficult to deal with.
Then we'll just stand out the park, so Niko, the opening on him, held back a little by the
yules, but the global over the top, forces the eon disk, and it got so many ways to chain
stun, but it's out of shift, and then a coil, Arosa's going to come in and get onto
dais, the snap far in trouble, Navi needs a reset from the range of this game!
All the way through!
Hit through, into the barrier, nice look, it dives deep!
My goodness, Navi, just get on top of them!
That was nasty. The angle there from God that you're in that corridor, very well
kited from Navi. They did not overextend into this egg. You get minimal
value out of it and then you just turn slice them up. Every time this night
Fall Ursa was out of BKB, he also feels like the fight is done. He did not get
enough done with it. He spent the whole time trying to kill this Jules-Dove
Sapphire. It's not even a priority target in this field.
Why are you looking at two lanes of barracks?
Makoto trying to spot this with a couple of buybacks.
TA just there, BKB, Makoto's gone!
Does have a buyback himself, he's probably going to have to spend it here as the template staff is running rough shot OBS support in the backlines.
Phoenix can then click down, but now Narvi have to respect the four man return of Aurora because the jump in from Mira has caught out and got the juice.
Four buys for that TA.
He probably needed all of them here.
an expensive kill to save the least you got him though big streak got all that
street code WS so that's actually pretty big extra thousand gold for that Phoenix
I spent money it's null fires just so stupid with global stocks on top it's
so hard to get out of these situations got the juice he's got the angle
You leave your snap fly, but ho ho ho ho!
Look at that wall lock disappear!
Disgusting.
So nice playing with these Rulers at the front as well.
Niku, can you see me?
Just run to the left.
I just don't want to sit there and really man fight.
Your biggest answer in this draft was supposed to be that egg turning its daytime.
Letting Ursa go in.
Everybody else is pretty squishy here.
An extended period without TA though, so Aurora can actually get out on the map across the
river.
Navi really nestled in their base though.
This is super disciplined, don't give anything away while the TA is dead.
I honestly don't mind this, you're up 30k, there's no roast to grab.
The best case scenario is you're gonna get another thousand gold in this time.
Worst case scenario is you're gonna start chain feeding and throw a lot away at them.
Why not just give a little bit of the map for a minute, wait till your TA is up and
that make them move out on the map.
Still have some night time to play with, still have Dark Ascension, you have full AC on this
Night Soccer pushing towards that level 25, really nice talent right here.
And you have your Refresher Silence are coming back up as well, so double global available
in 20, that is such a debilitator for this lineup.
Just too much for Makoto to deal with, I think if it was any one thing, you can kind of see
how he's playing his way out of some of this stuff, but all together.
It's like you're throwing the whole kitchen sink at him and then there's another sink.
And then a brick wall, and then a wall, and then the whole house collapses on it.
She's like, come on!
Then there was a hornet nest up in the roof, and there's like all sorts of shit.
Yeah, there's another hornet nest in this thing too.
Yeah, of course there is.
This is why I'd rather just see them go BKB into maybe some more scale,
because I think if you start buying these small, like, you gotta go ULs, you gotta go A on this.
They're not really doing anything together.
They're both getting nullified, they're both getting global.
Can't buy one item.
It just doesn't feel like it's saving him and it's not letting him have impact on the game,
and it's the point you're going to have to have impact on the game.
That's a good jumpstrap for WS.
He got off his BKB, and they've got a global to counteract that now as well.
He's a good damage though, where's the TA?
They're trying to join in here with another cookie, and they finally get it done,
and he's gone for the better part of two minutes.
Yep.
So Niko's going to take down the line, and a two-back call for PMA as well.
Oh, he's done it to them.
Fires the Warlock and the Puck.
They're going to want the Puck.
They've got to try and kill someone else though.
McCutcher is broken free. K-Wree will not be surviving.
And another Yule Scepter.
I think he'll stuns.
McCutcher, you slip-ray, but I don't know if you can weasel yourself out of this when...
...the Chief is chasing?
No, he's fine.
I don't even care about this fuck-holster. That's the sad part.
You always do a good killing on fuck, but...
He has a 20 damage. He's not dying.
No, I don't. Who cares? Is that good?
Probably get the wool on there.
Captain release.
Exactly. Looks like someone else put the line in secret from here.
Now looking at mega creeps, momentarily.
You know, buybacks on Aurora.
Nope.
Probably the game here.
You get one more fight with like a solid egg.
Without the buybacks, just impossible.
Yeah.
I should just watch them the game at this point.
I'm Venice. Absolutely Venice.
A minute for Phoenix and Warlock. Gigi called. There it is.
They realized.
Now Chas is right back.
Navi looking very good in this game one with that.
Traitor of heroes against the puck! Seems like a good answer, overall.
They gave the puck and they just made his life a living hell.
And they just completely removed him from the game.
And if you're going to remove a hero from the game, you have a pretty good shot to always win the 5-4.
It's not too hard.
I did like how Neeko played this. Nice soccer.
I think he was pretty disciplined for most of the time.
He never really took bad fights.
We saw a couple jumps on this hero that didn't work out because the Earthquake can counterplay you like that mid-fight.
But whatever. I'd rather see you play a little over-aggressive than a little over-passive.
With a hero like that?
Yeah, for him as a player and I here like this, and it'll generally work out.
I mean, this was a very classic Navi style.
You know, if you watch these teams with no names of it, you have pretty good shot
betting like that, that's probably Navi with these heroes.
How they're playing, there's not a lot of other teams are going to play a style
of draft like this in that function.
So those reaping five man moves to take ancients like just constant skirmishing,
always looking for easy support kills, ramping up this tricorps.
It's just going to be a medicine.
A late game, super annoying supports, very low cooldowns on average, maybe that's what it means.
Nightstalker can be a long cooldown hero sometimes, but Aurora would not be able to abuse that long cooldown, so that was a big factor.
And then they abused his PMA axe as well, started out at 2 and 4, coming out of lane stage, ended up at 13-8, having a spectacular time.
There we have it, Navi taking game number one.
That's the kind of confidence you need if you're going to be picking a somewhat off-chilter hero as your very first base pick.
Navi were going to beat their own drum for a lot of their draft.
And there were question marks, whether it was feet or not, but
Lacoste, I think they proved that when they're in their zone, they're very comfortable.
Yeah, they are. I wouldn't call this 100% being in the zone,
because a lot of the times you would feel like they do two, three good moves,
then they do one really bad move.
But what if I am not including Niku there?
Okay, then, they're not in the zone.
And they're locked in completely, me too.
He was trying his hardest, okay, to give them...
Look, the game looks slightly more competitive, but...
I gotta say, I think this game was pretty much over after seeing the draft.
It was definitely quite hard for Aurora.
It's also, there's a little bit of disrespect in a way, or they had a better plan,
which I feel like didn't turn out to be the case.
Like, you saw them have this exact same double pick early in the tournament, against the puck.
And then their follow-up response is to pick Ursa into it, which I don't really love.
Then I think they got skill-checked because you last picked Phoenix,
who gets Thumstered in the lane, which he should not against a T8.
And then you went top early to fight into a Nite Sucker who's diving,
which is also something you don't want to do into NS, because he's very good at collapsing.
So, suck it.
Take the L.
Yeah, I honestly think they got all drafted they played.
This is a very bad look from Aurora, genuinely.
I think the last picking Phoenix, they're so bizarre to me.
And honestly, like you mentioned it, I think the worst pick in their draft is the Ursa.
I think Ursa is so bad against Nightstalker, it's so bad against Silencer,
and it's bad against the idea of the draft.
It's about jumping you, it's about vision.
Ursa hates getting jumped, and he hates playing in stuff that gives vision all the time,
because that hero needs to start fights.
He's not some stand-in hit guy, he bursts you.
Like we talked about, he plays all of the Aegis' stuff.
I think it doesn't make any sense, and they completely shoot themselves in the foot here,
and I think Nightfall got sidetracked by like,
Me, the axe, me counter lane.
Like, can you even really win the lane?
Either that or maybe they were thinking it was a denial pick, because I do think that
Na'Vi does like comboing their axe with a got-the-juice Ursa.
But that's just so far down the line that like, why bother that early on?
Because in contrast, got-the-juice did exceptionally well on the Templars fast.
It is a comfort hero for him, and he proved it this game for sure.
This guy slaps on TA, and it's very good against the Ursa.
GTJ TA look at this like this guy is just he's the king on this year. Do we have the the perfect meld
Going through and bashing past the supernova into the defender gate or whatever because that was like
Angley perfect. This is the one. Yeah, this this was sick
And these TMP players they live for these look at him Watson was always tree when he wanted this
He's already breaking out the protractor right now. He's calculating it. He dreamcloyal stunned. I'm gonna stand
Oh, actually, never mind. He was just...
My God!
What a beauty.
That feels...
That's peak. That's peak Dota. That's why that game is so good.
That's how he started, like, getting the first blood off of the creeps, getting the Phoenix as well.
Like, you can tell he is TA player as well.
And, like, I think seven, eight minutes in, there was also a rotation in the mid lane where four, maybe even five players from Aurora try to gank on the Night Stalker with the coil.
We wasn't even close, like this is something that you see, you know, in some of these reviews that you're doing
that they get banned in Dota, whatever it's called, and
it's just weird. The Overwatch cases, exactly, should we report
probably three of them because they were not in the right spot or Koil was used to early, because this is just not a kill
that they were supposed to get in the first place. And me after seeing Aurora play Dota,
Have ever since that boom broke them in Balakia finals. They just don't look like the same team
Maybe they were thinking what Quinn was thinking earlier, which now I want to reassessment
Do you still consider Nightstalker meant to be fake?
It's definitely more real than I thought I honestly hadn't I didn't seen it
Like I didn't really watch it in detail since they changed the the steel or like the thing where you eat creeps at level one
I'm like first night time night time. That's honestly a really big deal and
and allows you to actually have an economy, which normally Syros does not,
kind of just dodge you and farm, and then eventually you fall off a cliff, like this helps that song.
I still think it's like playable. I think the bad part is the silencer in tandem. I think that
one-two punch, it's a little bit much. That felt, it felt kind of overwhelming, like we're talking
about a backstage, like about what item you should buy. Maybe you should buy fours instead of yuls,
but like, I don't know, it still feels like either all gonna get nullified. Yeah, he's gonna get
silence for six hours and then Axe is gonna call and it's like he can't do
anything. The Yule A on this definitely no matter what even if you tell me it's
good I it cannot be good. You're buying Yule A on this against Nightstalker who
have the reason you picked this hero is because he's gonna have nullifier in mid
game it counters both. And also something that he did is he maxed out the
silence at the early levels. We were also Terry crafting but this is good or bad
for farming at 240 during night time, one crippling fear.
It's not a lot.
It still kind of blows in terms of farming capabilities, but having this maxed out early
on causes quite a lot of issues blowing the cooldown.
Maxing it out means it's going to stay there for like six seconds.
You connect onto a target on top of global, that's 10 seconds of silence.
And also, we brought up one of Mira's favorite heroes, and Quinn, you were wondering if it
was a denial pick of the lion, and I said no.
is extremely comfortable on the hero. He's only lost one game on it.
You were lying. I was not lying.
You were lying. The gameplay indicated otherwise, though.
Yeah, I, to be honest, I think, like, Ursa's just so bad with lying in this context, because
they both, like, neither one is a fight starter. Like, I think generally the heroes that start
teamfights are the offlaners. And the heroes that are like carries and fours, they start,
like skirmishes and Ursa and Lyon to me feel that similar role of like they
want to get a pick off or they want to be the second guy to jump but they don't
have the first guy to jump and so Knight of the one of them can really start a
fight especially against all this vision and like TA and there's just too much
stuff so I think he has like an impossible job to fill because they have
no one to help him Phoenix just like they last picked Phoenix and he gets
turbo stomped in lane and feeds a million kills like he can't play I honestly
don't play mirror at all for this game I think he did all he could they did in
already built, zero healing with Lyon and zero building damage, it's not like you should
have ultied the mech of Saber to tower, he should have been punching the tower, right?
He did do the creeps though, he tried, he tried once, but also there were like two or
three times where they used their cane curse and the silence on him and his napfire ulti
and he just dies from 100 to 0.
He did have one play that was kind of sus and the early game when Niko was like teeping
out behind the trees, if he just stunned the ground the guy was dead but maybe he clicked
the portrait and the last vision it's like oh shit he's out there was also the
one when they were running down mid and he just like nice just yeah and then
look more like died as you go oh sorry guys it happens just another one of
warlocks 20 deaths that game Aurora had a very very tough time in this the game
number one they're going up against a Navi's hipster picks will they target
them and game number two are coming with a new strategy we'll find out after the
break.
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Welcome back, everyone, to game number two of Navia vs Aurora, where Aurora faces some
hard questions, such as, is anything in the previous game respect band worthy?
I'll tell you what the bands were last game. Navi banned out Lone Druid, Doom, and Tiny, and WS Doom every time
I totally stand by that. Respectable. Aurora banned out Clockwork, Kaz, Rubik, Husskar.
I think this Husskar ban is ridiculous. It's fake. That one's fake. Against Navi?
Kind of like in general. Niku's a fine Husskar player, but they will not first phase it. They only play it mid, there's no flex.
And I also think first pick house car is not real you can pick it on nine if you're really good house car
But you can't first pick it the grid you can skip it
But I think that problems also came more like later in the draft
Yeah, like if you're gonna go to the earth but also I think sometimes you have these moments
I'm just gonna talk about WS you give like a player a free reign on what he wants to pick. He's like, ah, give me Phoenix
I'm gonna destroy this TA in the lane. He gets skill checked. He took the L. He can just say
He's LS. Exactly. He's not WS, he's LS. Sometimes this happens, you know?
You just gotta take the blame, my bad guys. Next game, let's do something different.
His options were limited, so they took out Largo, they took out Beastmaster, they took out Dawnbreaker.
He still had Underlord, and then he also first base banned Doom.
But yeah, he had Underlord, what other 24th picks would you have been okay with?
I suggested Primal Beast, and there was something else in his wall.
Let me just check what he plays.
I said think arm potentially that could save his fuck what cuz you build into loader source
You can remove the global silence and you can also save people
It's very good pairing with the fuck because with this stampede
He just runs away from the silence and then fuck we did criticize his item build
I think this was the potential save as well that could come out. That's true
Would have led Makoto play a little bit more aggressively
Instead though, they think that the Huskar is real Quinn. They ban it out first phase again to protect their puck
This one makes more sense, I think, because your first pick and the Husker could be picked on 9 and it's also Husker against Buck.
So this one I buy a lot more, and I think it's just a better ban whenever your first pick like this.
Stop picking Warlock!
They can hear you?
It's a little louder than my heroes.
Yeah, I also think this is one of the issues. You basically don't have a 5 that does things.
things a lot of time he was just feeding on a different side of the map it is a
difficult warlock game a lot of the times I feel it is a difficult warlock
game no matter what yeah again keep going back to Malachi at Grand finals
where they picked it three times back to of course yeah very important to where
they lost all three of their games they've been picking warlocks so far in
tournament as well but I feel like the meta has shifted and without black
rim or art this doesn't do what you want to do before you have like if you get
couple of kills assist you're gonna be level six and six minutes and then you
can just go and go on and play the style that you want it I don't mind this
personally it seems that what they like against Puck is the the combo of the
NS silencer together which you couldn't get yeah I mean you talked about the
combo also and obviously now the enemy team is first pick if you take one they'll
ban the other yeah I could see like the voice for just being like a bit more
clear it's easier to build other stuff around him even with some bands I'm okay
with this yeah it's just interesting I think most of the time like most teams
you would expect them to run the Night Stalker back and so I think it's very I
think it shows some awareness and yeah I agree it shows like a they have a
specific understanding about Night Stalker that need it with silencer
because otherwise you just force it to silence the press spaceships so like you
I guess the global is kind of cool and that like even if you force away your
global now we catch up to you and you're still silenced even when the global
And that's their theory. I can see it and it makes sense. It's interesting though.
Just got the juice of Alchemist player. Should I maybe think this Voidsterer gets Fed and Agenemceptor?
He has not played it in this tournament, but if you were a carry player in 2026, you were playing Alchemist.
Better know how.
You can play Alchemist.
Not Pango though.
Not Pango, that's right. Take a real hero.
Axe gets banned out, so that's another part of Na'Vi's Game 1 success taken out of the pool.
Yeah, this axe was a real menace to deal with throughout the whole mid-game.
He had the relatively okay game in terms of farm because he wasn't on top of the network.
But in the mid-game, he was the one jumping both nightfall and also jumping peck-pock.
So it does make a lot of sense because he feels too comfortable, his win rate prior
to this game was hitting at 75% win rate with his axe.
Now this is a rare team that you would opt to ban out an axe instead of an underlord
for, but it is warranted based on what you said.
And another Puck solution comes out.
Lion goes on the side of Navi this time.
It's solid.
You'll never complain about having Lion against Puck.
I wouldn't say it's the best with Void Spirit.
They're both sort of low damage and it's like you're stacking a lot of disable back to back.
So now you're in a position of Navi where you need damage from at least one of your upcoming
picks, but you also don't want to go too far in like the nuker bros. I think sometimes you can
end up in the situation where you've got nuker mid and two nuker subs and you kind of like you
fight in a similar way and things like pipe or just tank ability, aegis, ghost push, all these
things can be really good against you. So you've created a scenario where these heroes are fine
together and they're good against Puck, there's a reason they picked them, but you need to balance
things a little bit with your upcoming picks. Riddies plays a lot of, he's played a lot of Venom
in this tournament. Also Phoenix, I wouldn't say those heroes are particularly good against
Puck. At least for now I'm just looking like more on their overall comfort. Obviously he'll
have a bit more info coming out because if you're Aurora you should just pick your double stop.
Yeah, I'd be okay with maybe getting Oracle. I just feel like because both of these damage you
did talk about it were it's a lot of magic, it's a lot of the like damage between them that are
sharing the same time. You nullify what you want to do. There is no silencer. Knight's
talk at this time around probably not gonna come out.
So you want that fake Phoenix in the reduction against all these newtons?
Well instead they're gonna kill Warrish Phoenix.
How do you know? Could be an off.
They were like brother, you cannot give me this player.
You cannot play.
Yeah, I don't think you're gonna be running that. I mean they are using it as a flex here.
So what can you do here if your Navi did you want the Oracle for Aurora or maybe also for Navi?
for Aurora, could also be very good for Navi.
I guess they will, they kind of have to look for one core to lock in, unless you can flick something between 1 and 3, but usually finding this is very difficult.
I could just see them like lock in their offline here, and probably the fire.
The snapfire also looks good, he plays, really does play position 5 snapfire as well.
It's good against oil, it's good against peg, it was good in the previous games.
So I want to see what the pairing is going to be from the off-lane. What does BMA want to play?
He's got his underlord. He's got Slardar
But if you want damage, you also put a little pristle back
You got to be aware of Ursa again, I would say but this time on 18 which makes it much scarier in terms of
like what kind of
Off-lane pick you could get here
Yeah. I don't like the TA here. I think the TA was good last game because he used the carry matchup.
I think if he's suddenly playing against a bad carry matchup then you don't have this free TA scaling thing.
That hero doesn't like it whenever she gets outscaled because she's not very good at playing fast.
Like her first 15 minutes are kind of scripted.
How about some Magnus type hero?
Like Magnus?
Yeah.
I guess he's kind of bad here.
You're such an idiot.
There he is.
No, that's not him though.
He wanted that.
Oh, it's not Magnus, actually.
My bad.
I literally meant Magnus.
I don't even know why I put sound in that sentence.
You also did tight.
That was the funniest.
Why do you want a Magnus type hero?
So, I've seen them play Snap with Mag before.
I mean, it's an age-old combo, right?
You get the cookie, you can skewer back.
Maybe they don't even lane together,
But it also helps you to later on like to find a matchup for your carry. You make it a bit better
It's also a pretty good combo with oyster
I think boys for with powers actually quite nasty
No, and it's also nice against these supports just having people to jump them especially who drink like screw this here
You need the ways of jumping her and killing her because she's annoying
Do you think this here was good enough to be picked blind though because I feel like
like while I agree their aspects that are cool and I thought always picks
you now played it like five times in a row he loves these are so type heroes
I mean here's the type hero can't be another right can be loaned to it he is
a bear as well sure fuck you look up so this is what you're apprehensive about
about picking a Magnus blind though is that now you get our said it is a
a problem maybe there's a world where I'm not here like the fact that you could
maybe pick it blind because he can be flexed but whether it's often or carry
mag you stuck against Ursa either way you don't really have that benefit I
don't think about that I'd be okay with some faces wait for Navi I think they
have no safe whatsoever it's very good against pretty much everything time
that Lation does destroy most of these heroes I think Void in general is just
Very good sometimes that we're seeing like some of the other heroes as well are very good because a kid a bit of Malice is
Well on the board because there is no secondary BKB. There is no refresh ability available on that BKB
You're kind of stuck. I think they need to ban boy. That would say right if you're Aurora
It's unless you know that the offender you're picking now
Covers it. It's at least one of the heroes I'd be a bit scared of yeah
I mean you might be picking some some like in or
or some underlord or something like that,
the block picks it a little bit.
I think Magnus Ursa is somewhat two-sided in mid-game.
Like Ursa doesn't like being repositioned or kited.
And if he doesn't have ags,
like you can RPM or whatever,
and during his BKB and you know,
kind of things like this,
or scurrying him out of position,
you can also scurry him into hex.
Yeah, that's it.
You have another way, like another game
where the Ursa ags doesn't feel that good.
And it's one of their best tools.
It would have been last game against the ags.
And it also is overall, if you play against Magnus,
It's a really big benefit of the Zero.
Yeah.
They opt to not ban out the faces, Void.
Instead, they take out Dr. Juicers' game one time or two.
I've been vague on saying that Kerry Magnus is going to be a thing.
It's not a thing yet.
But it might be now.
Maybe not in this one, but I feel like this Zero
definitely can be played from a Kerry Role.
It can be.
I haven't seen the builds yet.
They matter a lot.
It's probably just a mom, a harpoon, and to something.
And he can be feeder then refresh 14 scabs on his level 15 talent is insane
Try to think about the offline pick for Aurora. Yeah, what type of hero are you thinking about?
Straight tight hunter not tight hunter type just tight hunter
That's good
That's good. I do I do think you want a beefy boy
I say I think Ursa does not like he's the only jumper
Yes, you either need like a fat guy who's sort of standing there and giving vision for us to pick his target
Or you need someone to start first or so I can be the secondary job
We're okay with something like a Beastmaster as well
So Beastmasters having like insanely good games if he this is not a 24 Beastmaster
But I think they're prepping potentially for basis voice something that we did mention
So you have good ways of just canceling the team fight. It's very good against Magnus as well. It's a good follow-up on
on puck abilities.
And it's daytime, you have double daytime,
which, you know, it sounds a little bit of a like a meme,
but Phoenix only does turn it into daytime,
and with innate ability from Dawnbreaker,
you get the maxed out damage,
so once you come in with the Solar Guardian,
you're gonna pack a punch.
I see, I still would say that Void is good.
Monkey also, I think, is quite good.
Maybe there's a bit of volatility with the subs,
but Empower, like Monkey Magnus, has always been very good.
I like FaZe's Void for the scale.
I think, if you don't have scale here,
It's a bit weird on Na'Vi, I mean it's not Bandit Hero.
I think it was in some ways the only pick that saves things a bunch for them.
I think Dawn is really good with puck against these heroes because they, like when they go on you,
they have to stay quite close to you and if Dawn ults you will not die.
And now that sort of changes because Void just is the ultimate carry in this game.
And every Void game that's like this, like there's just a clock ticking.
You can feel it ticking from the start of the game.
If you do not win fast enough you will lose eventually
And there's nothing you can do about it. So like Aurora Aurora is on a timer, but the drafters better the last yeah, absolutely
I do like the
Adjustments that they did make again, even though this is the first face buck
He has been answered in terms of like the control that they do have they had overwhelming team fight
On side of Navi you have like some of the best team fight alties
You have ways of setting things up plus I think it's much easier for you to play the game
If you have as Magnus as faceless void if you have a mid laner
who's going in and creating a lot of chaos so you're setting things up for
bloodsphere position one and three. I don't like what Aurora did with in this
last phase if you're picking Dawn I'm not banning TA I'm banning Void like Dawn
is considered one of the better heroes against TA obviously you just lost to
it it's good against Ursa I get that but Mag Void in this game looks really
strong it's like an age-old combo. Void is also the literal best carried
to offline matchup against Dawn. It's the best one. Like, Dawn, when you pick Dawn,
you always men void, because you can't kill him in lane, and that's Dawn's like whole
schtick is you want to kill him in lane. You kite his ult, he jumps down to the chrono,
dilation, like everything. It's a horrible matchup. It's very bad.
If you use that before chrono for whatever reason, you're setting things up for two man
RPs, at least two man chrono spheres on top of that. So, it feels like, again, they put
themselves in a spot. Even though I like the adjustments, I still favor heavily Navi in
is trapped. Yeah, because yet again, I'm left wondering what is the ideal teamfight situation
for Aurora? And yet again, it's all on the shoulders of Puck. In game number one, it was like Puck has
to go in and then everyone else follows it up. You were hoping that they would pick an offlaner
that would start things in Earth so that it could follow up afterwards. Dombreaker does not start
things. She doesn't. And it only got harder for her to jump in. I think it's another game where I
think Mikoto has to overperform. I think he needs to do well in this one. They have to play through
made they have to own or I think it's weird for them well see if Makoto can
pull that off or if faceless void and void spirit are gonna bring the purple
rain let's find out in game number two
The sound is a lot of rustling on the shoulders of MacArthur here, and in the game 2, Navi
long to the good in the space of the freeing, especially when you're up against the verbal pain of
this force hurt and a faceless void that would absolutely bring the damage and control to this
recruiter. But the panel didn't seem too happy about the Aurora Tram, lot of concerns and a lot to do.
Do a 10-ball on their side though. Perseus does have a very good match against
Void in terms of taking Roshawn's getting gauges, but she's playing into the big old
season multiple lives and old thick and hard to deal with, so that's gonna be the name of the game
here for nightfall much faster first the game than this game one we saw push the
pace take objectives and make the team fights awkward for not yeah maybe you
chrono to people but if one of them has agents someone else is getting sunrayed
it's over guarding coming at the end it can be a little awkward to output the
damage here until you at least get mega farmed you get mega farmed here yeah
terrifying late game lineup no one's gonna deny that with the triple melee
court in power but there's a lot that can happen before then and I would not
under Raider War's ability to execute them.
Yeah, playing through the royalties, reacting with a solar guardian, coiling,
supernova to help out.
There's tons of tools there at disposal to get some stuff done as that ladyface breaks down.
This is why we got the juice though, a hero that...
I've watched this team a lot. I was in the depths of the Eastern European qualifiers,
Western European qualifiers, wherever these guys were.
They were... kind of scrambled to land, get to events,
events and sometimes no they drop a game sometimes to be up a game in a series
facelift void is one of their specialty game two and game three heroes where
they're like okay we need to either come back or we need to slam the door on
our opponents and got the juice I feel like he always delivers on this hero I
don't have seen him bloat he's super comfortable on it it's a switch of
playstyle for them too which is why I think sometimes they go to it kind of
throws a wrench in it you play this game one that is running it used to be a
fast game play with night stalker constant scurvy sheen and all this
some game. You get elastic faces for you. I was like, oh, oh, shit. Okay, well, now I got to change my whole mindset, right? You're making adjustments going in this game too. And you're probably talking as a team, they play really fast. They're gonna look for constant
scorers. We can't fall behind. We can't get too greedy. Let's pick heroes that can win lanes and fight them. And then all of a sudden, now you're getting outscanned. That's another issue you have to solve. So I think that is something that can work well for them and kind of catch up on top guard. I do think I'm more have a pretty nice lane set up here. I kind of expect them to punch back a little bit, probably win. I want to say we're going to play a little bit.
I want to say win both side lanes. It's kind of hard to win the dawn against the Void, but I think you should pre-farm up here as dawn, especially with the hoodwinks of support as we know.
Maybe you can kill Lion luncher twice if that's fun to go out at four timings.
And I think Ursa is going to pre-farm no matter what against Magnus.
So you're winning one and a half to two here solidly. The mid is kind of a wash as it always is.
You can get out to a solid game here as Aurora, and I think the Phoenix on support is going to probably look a lot better than did on Cork.
Yeah, and the hands are curing on basic specialty heroes.
So is there a clock on Aurora? Is that an outdated concept? Do you think Navi wants to get past 35 minutes?
Navi are definitely very happy scaling, especially if they have cores in the top 3 or 4 network. They're going to feel very confident the later this game goes.
There's a bit of a clock. However, I think clock as a concept is kind of dumb because it's all about relative networks.
Who owns Roshan's? How can you take the team fights?
And I think there is always a way to itemize your way out of scale and Dota if you are head-bystered now.
Like, Faces Void's great. You can buy Wind Wakers.
You know, okay, you can buy Nullabar. Yeah, it goes back and forth, but generally, if you're rich enough, you can solve a lot of issues.
Even buybacks, like, there are some games where Faces Void just loses ultralakas.
Yeah, like, you just spam lives into him and you can catch him with some nice initiations or turnarounds.
You can make his life more difficult. Is he one of the most broken late game here's all time yet?
But you should never look at like you never look at it like that in a game and just feel defeat right always come with solutions
There's always a way so with enough momentum they can
Too much taken too late
27 for Niku already I start ahead of this pub where he's getting the click down
He's a nice roll.
So he has to step away from the wave a little bit there as Daze gives him the harassment as well.
Got a little shredder already up from the snapfire.
Another something you've got to worry about here is Phoenix.
Trading can be a little tricky.
If he fires trees, it's nice when they're up, but when they're down, the snapfire is going to run the lane.
And then PMA can drag the wave back as well.
Trying to reset a little closer to his tower.
and got the two's actually playing together here off-lane.
Done as a time dilation.
Looks like they've got this for the Blood Grenade.
Batch comes out in a mirror and he's finished off.
Starbreaker's gonna land on the void,
and it's gonna let you hammer chucked into what's ready.
Popped a stick there, and he's actually survived
and got away from WS.
That was not the kill to give away,
because you won the Lotus trade up here.
You've double braced your full resources, Starbreaker,
and you end up getting up first blood on the sling.
Basically, you didn't really use any of WS's resources here.
in that trade. It seems they just got the Ice Light Mirror completely.
Bad debt to give up. I think this is a lane that...
you want to dominate. You want to bring this way back, deny the camps,
put the Void in a position where he has to come up or he's getting harassed,
maybe he leaps, you know, all in him.
Like, there's ways you can infuse this lane, at least force some extra regen out.
Instead, you give away that first blood gold.
It's a little bit of boost. We can seek out the Juicies.
Not doing well, apparently. This has been a big struggle for him.
And I think this is the two side lanes that Aurora should be winning pretty hard right now.
It's definitely some breathing room here for Navi, he's gonna have to come from the
mid lane where he goes, continuing to do super well.
Yeah, it was just that one moment, that one lapse, right, there was like a double die
away pressing forward, he said the Lotus would be grabbed, a mirror for porting no mans land.
We got 14 laps left for the face of the void, not too happy with the current state of affairs.
All about the equilibrium up here, if it's backed, you just start getting wailed on,
You can't jump early, or you're gonna get caught by pushwag blood grenade all in, so...
Yeah, sacrifice some early CS here, just to try and survive.
That's why these small camp pools are so important, so they can track that lane back.
It's not gonna get run out, though.
That position, like, you don't want to time-walk that, but then you're just taking Nutrition here and you're getting forced off the waves.
This is really rough, I forgot the juice up here.
It's the full zone, and then the chains for Bombo!
Yeah, that's it there?
To me, this is how I thought this lane was gonna go more.
That's why I was surprised by that first play and how well they were doing early on.
So this is a lot of missed time for this boy.
He is going to be very far behind in this game.
He's going to have to look towards the Empower maybe a little earlier than PMA is going to want.
Days for us to grab the Amp damage.
On the nose of the Phoenix.
No refill there.
Free of the Midlaners.
Still sticking around to see if they can get anything done with the pod.
But this leaves PMA completely open.
He's gonna hold that secure as a defensive tool, but this is now freedom for Nightfall.
Yeah, most sidelines going very well for them. 33 and 7.5 on that.
Alright, sir.
The sidelines going well means Aurora have more freedom to move their supports in this game.
They can bring supports mid with Coil, try and look for the Void Spear kill.
It's probably the hardest QT kill on the map.
Still on his pot though. Defensive Coil.
They're just making the move first.
Lion swings in. They get the kill.
Daze, he's been here for about a minute and a half, waiting for his moment to strike with it.
That looks like damage room.
I thought I would have been Aurora looking for this instead, not even kind of like a sneaky play.
Bring all their stuns mid, find this puck.
This life contains to be miserable, they do get the Magnus, and they're going to look toward Wisdom Shrine,
so maybe the bigger win here for Aurora if they can grab both shrines here, keep these Navi supports low.
There's going to be food on the map.
There's nobody contesting this.
Nope.
Left-hand side, same story, so yeah, double shrines.
That means faster alties from these Raiden Heroes, which we said were very strong to play through.
Well, let's see Aurora look to pressure this void more.
You can easily bring a coil up here and just kill God to juice at almost any point in the
first 20-30 minutes here.
He's going to die in coil with damage follow-up.
You can do the same thing to the Magnus.
It's also fine, but he's probably going to go jungle here.
So if you have an empty lane for Nightball, bring the Phoenix through the gate, smoke
the puck, or go to the Pucks lane.
There's a lot of options open for Aurora, and this is what you want to try and do because,
again, you're playing against all those Ultra-Scale.
No, you wanna put your foot on the gas and step on their neck early so they feel the pressure.
That's how you can kinda turn it against them.
Like yeah, it's one thing to sit in this game as a RORB, thinking about, oh man, Ultra-Lay
does land up super scary, but if you can put an odd unit position where they're thinking,
oh man, are we even gonna get to Lay game?
A lot of that pressure goes away.
Well with another move made, they find a kill on Mira and a Koto.
Has the backup of the Solar Guardian though, gonna land in onto Niku and that voice spray
is gonna get pummeled.
I'm bringing three heroes in to defend that mid lane, I'm only losing the hoodwink.
There's gonna be a big difference from game one, I think these coils are way more dangerous.
He knuckles here as well, you know.
He's always lurking man, he likes making these little rotations on the Ursa.
Just seeing what's up, either controlling a power rune, maybe you swing and mid, give
a little extra damage.
I don't mind him.
I think it costs him very little and the opportunity is often there.
Something that's worked for Aurora in the last six months or so.
Opportunity cost, you missed two creeps. Potential for a kill mid.
Something here though, there's Naveen.
The two supports was probing from lane to lane trying to get what they can.
A cookie completely off the mark though, and WS is just...
Alright, then I'm gonna shrug this off.
What's grandma cooking up here?
Some wheat cookies or something.
A oatmeal raisin.
A really strong oatmeal.
I don't think they killed there anyway. This guy's 1500 HP. With the Lotus, with the Wand. Good luck.
This is where your low level supports are really killing you on the map right now.
I have a Wild Attempt. And now, this is the answer. I can't make chain stuns from the Bushwhack out of Fog.
Easy pickings from Makoto. I think it's too easy for a Ruan out there.
Anywhere this puck goes, there's Killturt.
Coil threatens all three of these cores, silence is pretty nasty for all of them.
He's having a way better time with it now.
And it feels like this is enough momentum to swell them out on the lane stage.
And in any other game, a 3K lead feels pretty good.
Is this the expected outcome though? Like is this a necessary 3K lead for Aurora?
I'd say you expect to lose lanes here, it has to be. Or at least lose the lane phase.
The Muscle's void spirit just goes absolutely weak here.
Going in on his Dawnbreaker again.
WS-8 wand, with double Bracer paying off.
Turns with a Starbreaker for the additional Darington of Daze.
He's gonna do the job.
I still pick up for them. Didn't even have to use the Chrono,
still have that there on the map.
Niku doing some heavy lifting right now.
That's what we've got to do, because Daze is being backed up on Makoto and Mira.
Niku, with the help of this Impale, they're on the block.
I don't know, they've changed them down to about a third of his health,
but he's still able to jaunt away, and Gobleteuse couldn't quite get there in time with the Chrono.
So now Mera just throws the pushback back at this.
See, he's a snapfire, while PMA has joined this.
Looking for a chance to get an RP on someone.
Start with a stun out of Lion, the hypnotize in, the Chrono's there,
but what if he was dragged into it or walks into it,
whichever way he would still, all the way to Rift off and blow them up anyway!
A Chrono!
Turn it back onto Narvi!
Slammed down!
That was a beautiful combination right there and it was all set up by this arcane rune on the puck.
You're skirmishing the arcane rune puck with max orbit. So obnoxious, so hard to deal with in this early game.
We see God that you're trying to find some sort of impact here early with a chrono.
Just barely off the mark there in it. There's one of those things like, oh, maybe it's not gonna make a difference.
Oh, it's gonna make a difference. Well, let's see what they do. It's not gonna make a difference.
It definitely made a difference here. They got really punished for this stun not landing on Makoto here
He just need one more hit he lives on seven HP and then gets an entire round of spells off huge just destiny
Do we want to impale into chrono or impale into RP?
PMA was waiting for his moment to go in
Didn't really just want to go straight onto the puck and I'm going to place the egg as well. Oh, yeah, skewable egg placement
You had Ursa free-firing bottom the whole time. He joined that fight might fall the cheerleader clapping from the sidelines
Good job boys. He's now able to get into the fray as well. If you were back into a two-man RP
Yeah, fuck was low, but no kill threat from Navi in this situation
Just gonna bleed out and lose hero after hero. This is getting concerning
You're blowing big oldies and you're not finding
those key clutch kills here to try and stabilize the game. I feel like the beads
of sweat are just dripping down Niko's face right now watching every one of
these fights just like... every tendon muscle muscle fiber of his being. Because
every old thing goes out that doesn't stabilize this game is just more
pressure on voids here. More emphasis on Niko to have to do something here to
slow the pace down. I feel like at this point you're almost already thinking okay
The first one is guaranteed and he falls, yeah.
Probably, maybe even the second, if this game continues on the trajectory.
So, here are any Magnus Blink here.
It's a big piece of the puzzle.
You need to get these support ults.
Cooking as well.
No finger charges for Ries.
He missed that first one.
Two of the kisses.
These are some of your better early-in spells to look for some of these kills.
Try and play through the Void Spirit.
He's your one low cooldown threat in this game.
He's going battle here, too.
I do like this build. It feels super nice to play with if you get into the battle theory plus the axe. You're just leaping around clearing waves and everything. You get the bashes off all the stun procs or the cleeds off all the stun procs. It feels amazing to play with. So I'm not going to deny that aspect of it. It is a little bit of a slower build. It ramps a little bit slower. It does a little less damage early on in the teamfights than like mask of madness slash maelstrom.
from Mjolnir, and it's a question of when you have a power, really, the Mask of Man is
going to take advantage of the power, empower a lot better in this game than the battle
very well.
I need Q, nice to simulate, doesn't get picked there as they try to breach the ramp.
Look at that coil though, and the sunray damage, pretty substantial, gets off the pulse, chronic
an outcome and a push whack, stops any damage, engage.
He's kind of out of there and then he's flirting with danger and too much danger
Which plate already done in this fuck is pretty brutal for him
So is the battle fury consequence of this early lane stage going bad or is it just
Probably just his preferred build maybe it's a little bit of a I feel like I'm too far behind to try and accelerate this game
I'll just have to play for the ultra scale here
You know when it with some sick chronos later on like delay the curve until they don't you don't really play don't like
Power your alert force as much with Magnus as you used to so I'm not going to say that it's a big a factor
So what's five or six years ago when it was just?
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You know that's like in the days where we saw you play Magnus PA and PA would go first light of the best though
Yeah, right you don't need to go about it for you. You want to take advantage of that extra clean because it's so powerful now
It's a lot weaker, so
It's not the biggest factor. It's still game factor, but
It's gonna be a slow game for Navi here
Especially losing both these side lane tier ones. Pretty easy access now into this mid lane which is already pretty low HP on the tower there as well.
So Aurora have thick of a litter in terms of where they want to be on the map.
Currently they're just being very deliberate with this farming, sitting back and waiting.
With the puck in the air so in this bottom jungle.
That's the issue. There's heroes off the map for Aurora.
Who's gonna push waves out of this game for Navi without the threat of just dying to heroes in the fog?
It's rough. Lion doesn't do it. The Magnus...
Like, he kinda wants to do it, but he also kinda wants to threaten something with this blink. The Void is not doing it.
So you have like two dead heroes, you're snapped to do it a little bit.
Void spirits are afraid of getting coiled. It's really scary to get these lanes out, and it's gonna be scary for a long time.
So we're going to see this network being thrown.
At least until Navi are willing to group up and try and take a fire off some sort of early item timing.
Try and bait something in.
Often you can try and bait a fight in this position if you're Navi and kind of rally around like tier one mid or something.
Even early buyback, because you have the big ult.
The curve has been delayed even further, brother.
Courier snipe there.
Faces void bath through, delayed by a minute and a half.
So he removes his voice phone from the map, and into the tier 1 tower mid.
Simple moves.
So I'm going to get faster from here on out.
Osta has his blink dagger.
You already said this Roshan is a gimme for Aurora.
Pretty early here.
You definitely want to do this really early.
This is a game where you want every Roshan going down as fast as possible, as instantly as possible,
to put as much pressure on these bingles for Naughty.
I guess when you're relying on a big RP and chrono and you want to be able to get these
huge kills, not forges but that second line of his sleeve.
It's one of the best items against Faceless Void.
And there's no real need to commit anything on the map either by Aurora.
No, this Dawnbreaker could just sit, farm jungle, I've got Solar Guardian ready to react, so
even if not, they do make one of these big sweeping 5-van moves with all their ulti that's
ready.
There are so many answers.
And they can be efficient.
They're gonna have heroes off the map like the puck or the hoodwink looking for kills
and they're not losing out on too much gold or camps that are going to spawn every minute
because you didn't stop where you can clean it up.
We did see Navi trying to paint out something mid a little bit, and there's just nothing
going on.
I don't think we've done a good job the past couple of minutes though, stemming the
flow, bleeding out that they were doing.
Get some gold, get some of these initial items like yule's on this voice bridge, it's pretty
close now that's the interesting about this game though it's one of those games
where you can stem the bleeding but the charts gonna keep going up because the
way you're stemming it is just by not pushing those ways out not showing as
much so yeah you're not dying you go good with that in the same time infection
hits yeah you're still dying by a thousand cuts here these types of games
that they're really difficult to play because they are still winnable but you
You have to pick that one moment to take that teamfight, and it has to be 100% correct.
What that situation sets up, so that you get so much value out of your spells, this network
difference doesn't matter.
And that is a skill set in itself, and I would honestly say it probably lends itself to the
more veteran players.
You can try and spot how do we get Aurora to overextend some of that stuff.
Who can we dangle in front of them?
Now it's the lion
Riddies
Counting his way out until now the character says hello
Quick goodbye as well
Meanwhile TV out of days does get him out of danger off to the other side
solid space
Thank you, though. My goodness. No late shuffle you son get back to your side of the map
Miss you will double the effective looking mirror
Well, hoodwink out there scouting, looking for more targets, and there's a backup of the dawnbreaker ulti.
Can't even kill the squirrel, man.
Yeah, invulnerable.
Helped out by WS.
And now they just cut this map all the way across the river. There's no advancing by Navi.
Didn't have to use any of their ultimates.
And then the lanes get pushed in this bottom lane as well.
It's annoying, even without the coil they could kill here.
When you're worth more than enough.
Might as well use the ULT's base here, guys.
Yeah, ULT's pretty nice against Araster.
I think it's Coil, you can think about that, Wind Waker later on as well.
Yeah, very good, you'll see.
At least you have your battle fury and power void cooking.
So he is starting to farm up now, he can recover this gap.
Start to become that threat.
It's gonna feel a little better.
Pushes one, waves two, he's mid, gather what farm he can.
Well Aurora looking at the bottom lane, you need to.
Am I dodge? Not catching him like that, Mira.
Doing God's work down here.
It's playing with him a little bit.
And there's a smoke coming through, so all Aurora thinking about killing this guy.
And there's Rune down in the bottom spot.
They're trying to bait it.
There's a head to play. They might get him on this.
He knows, doesn't he?
He absolutely knows.
And Niku gets to push another wave. Lovely.
Meanwhile, two men to dead.
Oh god, you're mo-
Okay
All the Puckers walks it off
Yeah
Ships in the night, nice boomerang here
Yeah
That's well
I didn't feel it when a team like Navi is really tightening up and playing his 5
It's net worth lead, advances, XPV getting bigger and bigger
Leaving two heroes in the open, near means lying, about to get shredded
And I don't think PMA is gonna last too long either
SSR and TP
When more stuns, they do. WS, a medical streak. Shot helping out, getting the damage onto him while I was just chasing Liku across the edge of the map.
MacDawbreaker isn't a Crescent Hero. You are constricted like this.
It reminds me of the Underlord too. Those are the two offlaners I think for me that when you were in a winning position, they closed the map so fast.
Your play options just go galoreous by such a large degree it feels as if there are no play options
And you know at the same time they're just vacuuming up all the time. Yep 12 and a half thousand net worth dorm breaker
Six one and five
Grand old time it's back to score a hundred. I need to get it here
Take it down
Yeah, with a nice push back
Finger that's coral down and get yourself some bonus damage here
Something out of nothing
Naps smoke. Yeah looking to try and get something bigger. They do damage with chrono kisses
We haven't really seen the combo this game, but it's there
You're raising a very good spot to smoke break though. Oh, they'd love to find a fall
They just can bypass the Phoenix and get right onto Nightfall.
They're used into Chrono, kisses Landing, solar guard in the heal, and he's still a
half health, but the blast damage is enough to kill him off, and now the Dawnbreaker RP'd
under the combo of Narvae.
They're gonna double kill for days, or they'd deal with the Eggwither, the Lost Redder,
and the Right Whip.
They give all three!
The Curtis puck is in, trying to do some things, but I don't know if there's too much
to chew on.
This Mirror, he's hooked into Kill of Days, but Aurora's gonna fully re-stand back up.
Great.
No fight for them.
Those are those moments, right? You gotta get those spikes where you feel a little momentum and you just...
You take it and you extract as much of the marrow as you can.
Great core kills here from Obby. Everything you could ask for off that smoke plate.
And all your big cores lit. That's another big component here.
You don't want to make that play and then have the Void die. He doesn't get the time to farm.
The time to farm after something like this is almost as valuable as the kills.
And now it's the War Guardian. Getback fire is pretty hard.
If you get Ursel Ult off here, sure, but...
But we're just just sitting there, waiting, lurking, and nice call from PMAs to HALES.
We're not running for the sake. We're just gonna kill them this way.
Alright, we'll try to make some calls as he's dying.
Let's take Aurora while I try and get out of the map again and use this net when this leaves what they've got.
Clearing into the bottom tier 2 tower.
Quick snatch and grab on to got the juice.
Oh yes, the man has to done it, but unfortunately, it does not save you from coil-ins.
Straight back to Fresken's objectives.
Will be aggs for Nightfall, just so he has the security of being able to get that ult off no matter what gets thrown against him here.
Nice tool against this Magnus and Void for sure. No real silences in this lineup.
in this lineup. It was always a huge window as well with chrono, rp, kisses down. You got
a minute or two and get Rorick and exploit. So it will be voidspear daggs. So you love
that silence? I'll show you the guns here, okay.
Oh yeah.
Well they're enjoying themselves. It's not an easy game. It's not like some players are
noticing with some some big guns out there you know what I'm saying who's got
the biggest tall tall is up there sure is the Quincy beefing up
yeah power to him he's not up there but he's not a player anymore I think
iceberg is a box oh my god yeah destroy him and Pikachu his brother
right those two are massive bees
Big boys, but most of them are scrawny little bitches. So that's how he sports goes, you know
And who's the strongest you've played with
Most of the strength we talk about in NA teams is mental strength
Trying to last three pubs try and survive
Right now that's the NA Dota experience right there. What's great until it doesn't a
A lot of great history though, you know.
Can't have a boat place.
I don't know about teams that perform very well.
Oh!
When you get down, the mother to tell you...
The lion lion right there doesn't happen.
Set the hell, set the hell, you stupid duck!
Get off our screens!
Golem get you gone!
That was a classic meme actually.
I feel bad for every time I see that, but it's such a classic meme, it's like, well, what do you do?
He's made his mark on Dota history.
Oh, for sure.
And the annals of the Reddit lore, we will survive.
We can only all hope to reach such heights.
Maybe you'll have a classic meme someday.
Yeah, I mean, Insightjokes are great, I love them.
Gary gets you gone.
I'd be loved to be involved in Insightjoke one day.
You say that, but when it happens...
There's my really cry. Yeah.
Come back into things. Hope this doesn't ruin the rhythm for Aurora.
Looks like the soul's sitting and farming.
Not really pressing the advantage on the map, so it gives a better room here for Nami to farm.
Why don't they put that Roshan timer into the cycle.
I'll see how fast it is here.
If you're Aurora. 34 seconds.
Give me the quick spawn. The Agz is done for Nico. Actually, I have himself a pretty good game, all things considered.
So I now have some threat on the puck, more disruption to fight, a little more threat on this Ursa, because he is going the Agz and not the BKB.
Though, are you going to be able to line up Krono or RP with the Voidsphere's silence? That could be a little tricky. Execution on that is pretty high.
Roche, I'm already alive. Less than 20 seconds respawn time, I think it's 7 or 17 seconds.
Already back up, nighttime, bottom Roche. They are going to wait for her sags here, but then I expect Aurora to super-prioritize this.
They're going to try and use this moment to get out and strike the hoodwink. Mira's going to get jumped in that bottom lane.
This is deja vu, it's the same thing that they did before, right?
It's a smoking to kill, but do they have a second smoke to go for more?
They've been popping a lot here.
They're getting to some other crimes though.
They have the BKV on the Magnus,
working towards the BKV on the Phasos Void.
I think they would be happy to take a structured 5 on 5 with everything up.
I don't think they're afraid of the actual 5 on 5, it's just being able to start it on good terms.
Because so far, most of the initiations have been the way of Aurora,
And once that happens, you just get nightfall in there, coil a couple of these heroes, you drop Solar Guardian, you drop Egg, that fight's gonna look real nasty, real fast.
So jump number one, lanes across rivers, try and get the juice out of here as you push that additional top wave to try and open the map for them.
And it's like eight out of there as well.
Base trade, furb cell.
Tons of it.
So if he goes and rejoins his team though, because Roshan is imminent.
The TP to shift into mid, if need be.
And Roshan is still nestled in that bottom pit.
Yeah, if you can keep these lanes out, make sure there isn't that long angle for Aurora to get a kill before Rosh.
You can have that standoff.
It feels like that was ideal for Navi.
Having some kind of standoff or a wraparound.
100%. Also keeping their wards up.
They'll line up really once the fight around Observer wards.
Just don't get baited by illusions.
They're gonna curse them like that dude, that's pretty brutal.
They're the ones cronoying us now.
Hell yeah, they're just gonna cronoy the illusion.
Nah, our face is forwarded on the other side of the map
and they see both of them.
That dire ward.
Oh my god, solid idea.
These aren't real.
Now he's gonna fall for it.
For now Aurora, decisions to be made.
Top lane's being pushed pretty hard.
Navi have evacuated their ancient area
so there aren't any targets to kill first
us before Roshan can be attempted. Again, very good defensive posturing from Navi.
I'm not losing a lot here though. They lose opportunity. Dead boys here, they didn't get
a single fight out of it against his puck before his VKB is done. These are those kind
of little windows that... I'm sure you're going to continue to scale this, but because
you were so far behind, you're not gaining an advantage with it, and now you're just
going to have to kiss the second Roshan goodbye, which I think was inevitable. Again, this
was a fucking commercial, it's a plane stage. I felt like you were going to lose both these
first two rushons no matter what.
I'm just looking to get a Coil at the boomerang.
Oh my god, Invigorated A.O.E. to land down and crash onto Niku.
They do lose a core kill and the rush out at the same time.
That's the last thing you want to see here.
Just walk positioning-wise, they couldn't get to the rush pit.
Just couldn't contest.
It's too hard to get the lanes out and force Aurora to split or show heroes anywhere that leads to a pick-off.
It's just Ursa in there solo, so all of your AoE teamfight that's normally greater on the pit,
it doesn't do anything for you in this game because it's just gonna be Ursa in the pit solo.
You need to see stuff first.
Hold to that cases, wait and see what comes your way.
Kite out Nightfall.
I'm not taking his head on anymore.
Get in the voids, finding farm in this game.
We're seeing how to use Climb this leaderboard.
Now to the third item here in the BKB.
He has the survivability now.
Assuming Ursa doesn't munch his lunch.
his lunch now he's gonna get some damage up really feels like he's one core
against three though so I'm break his top of the net worth
WOS is out there with Sandin Yasha now completed he's a big boy he's huge almost
4,000 HP on this guy and he's he can't be the biggest priority in the fight
either so she should have mostly free reign to do what he wants even if you
want to do that classic and you're hot the doorbreakers that you can't tell the
Guardian very difficult to kill anyway. It's tough
Dior vision could be protected by Navi
Sit under the little high ground
Or have swept through killed off all the jungle caps taken all the high-value land and territory away from you
Backing up into a bit of Dior vision, but it's like they're okay to settle on a staircase
have to respect the cliffs in this game. Those are the spots you're potentially
gonna lose a fight on if you run into a cliff board. There's not many of them left in Dota,
but the equivalent of what a cliff board used to be right here. These spots where you know
Navier are likely standing up are very strong defensive ops on a champion. Just be wary of
those uphills.
Horsen of Aniku there, he starts with the puck on the way in, but Makoto still didn't chase him.
Can he yule some stuff out of this? Does a hex turn around, will a bushwhack arrive with a boomerang as well?
He yules flies a bit of time to jump away from WS, but a BKB puck diving in and looking for this.
Nightball has found the angle. It's a pinch into the back, kill off the void spirit.
Makoto showing he's pretty happy just to press that BKB and run straight at you.
I don't avoid through the eyes, there's no threat on this puck. He's chilling.
I've got the juice also being run at. Every time you show up on the map, multiple Aurora heroes coming away attempt to get turned around though with the snap fly in the face of Void.
Got to respect the answer though from Aurora. You know the solar garden is up.
Nightfall can keep making the jump. The puck has been cron out though, and there's the ulti from Dawnbreaker and the damage is lacking.
Try and skewer in with an RP, PMA, BKB's up, holding his ulti, doesn't cast it, so now it's pre-range for Nightfall
Just to jump in onto the face of void, so now Riddies
KMA's got to get the hell out of here now
That was not it
You get a chrono on puk, it's kind of the dream, but of course solar guardian pushwack gets thrown in
He doesn't BKB early enough and he had a shield, so yeah, not the moment to try and look for that opportunity
Especially with voidscrew dead, your follow-up is really minimal there
There's a little bash coming out this time on WS, just trying to make this void to light
hell.
Navi, the one's running out of time here to put something together.
Who's he?
Too much map?
Not getting enough out of these ulti.
Wow, it's not fucking Aurora.
I don't know why they've been playing.
It's a bunch of network just flowing into them.
VKB up first sir, a minute left on Aegis, another tier 2 tower.
Opens up the opportunity for Aurora to go multiple lanes for high ground.
I'm shaming with the next version.
Now Navi does still have RP and kisses.
It's very difficult to launch yourself head on into a flight right now.
The green lights are all up for the radiant.
Look at Fuzzy Wuzzy go.
Nice charging straight in.
Fuzzy Wuzzy has no fear.
I don't want to shoot thee.
There's not much room for him.
That's a little teddy bear picnic this bottom lane.
You're just going to run out here at least 20 seconds.
Pretty good ages period here for a war.
It's like double their advantage, you know, torment, they're out of the tube,
I thought she was clearing through objectives of the game.
The ideal Ursa game.
And punk has been...
I'd upload...
Didn't want to say the word court, because the turnaround is actually here from the...
The waitgum is still in the garden, back onto Riddies.
Lion falls away while the focus really is on that voice spirit.
Slammed into the ground by Miran WS.
It feels like the script has slipped from that game one, where the koto on the puck game one...
Just too many layered answers to his hero in this game, if he's like Niku,
he can dodge some of the controls here, but there's just so much follow-up on the initial coil then.
That's all it takes. Every coil, every swinging rip into whatever hoodwink follow-up,
then you have solar garden coming down, then you're getting bashed.
Ornithnath.
Yeah, it's just, there's too many layers for you to have to deal with. There's no good itemization
path right here.
Hey, you bought these BKBs to try and do something? Well, I guess Void Spray is still
Trying to get to his.
But Magnus in the face of the Voyager, we've not been able to accomplish much with theirs.
It's gonna have to be some really nice teamfight spell casting, probably on the high ground.
Skewer's back.
Yeah, exactly. Classic Magnus gameplay. Maybe get that clutch skewer or a Hornsaw skewer.
I don't think I'm going to rush too much for a rush to go high ground though.
I'm just going to deposit you.
If you come out on the map, they'll kill you, maybe consider it.
They're going double Abyssal here, so they're going to have Eul's on Hoogling plus double
Abyssal between the Ursa and the Dawn, which means when that Magnus goes in to try and
land some big RP, even if you get it, there's a high chain, you might get Abyssal, Solar
Guardian can come down, you get Eul's on the jump, and if you don't BKB, there's a lot
to interrupt in this line of a lot of chain lock down if they can catch the
void first that's always a dream
I was just so bad when you're on the back foot like this hiding your base
good time to think about stuff though you know you're bored though didn't you what
am I gonna eat for dinner
yes I was just thinking about sticking in base I thought I saw these old games and
you're just watching your void farm and you know you're never getting another
lane creep again like yours lying in this game
You know to you that's what riddus is leaning on right now. It's like damn
I can go for some
At least New York style pizza right now. Oh, yeah, I have to watch this boy clear another camp in front of my face
Salivating watching him kill neutral creeps Faker
Wireless mouse disconnects. He told you someone's
Oh my head says rock and roll and it's mirror
Rub salt in the wound like eyes
It's always headset to give them time to think about the mess there in
That should always reminds me of back in the day
DDC silence are sitting in fountain
Literally waiting for 20 minutes to press his ulti so he didn't feed you like 013 or something
DDC silence for those of the days to generate ass call throwback is that here?
Oh my god, like I may as well say I don't have a rise of
the days when the MMY tinker are playing mid and just filing on kids. Yeah, you know your
memes. I've been around. You're an old school Dota fan. A man of culture. Chinese Dota for
many, many years. Chinese Dota has a lot of really nice old school memes. Not like this
New Age duck track. Get it off my screen. Why don't you put an MNY up there? Yeah. That
would be impressive where is he going through now it's Lord McCottenham
long ago bar present going mallard the coat or in the dock Martin the mallard
has arrived yes given point of the person who has ruined their heads yet
no more disconnecting please rejoin the game
Oh no. I thought maybe they'd get back into it but WS doesn't know he needs a bit more
time. Go through the game plan. Think about how they approach this. Probably the same
as they've been approaching it. Go kill Roshan. I'm telling you it's some mouse headset. I
don't know. I didn't get it Gary. I never had that. My prediction skills, they're off
today I'm lucky you try like seven times mouse headset think about pizza well
the real reason is always some like real-life thing they always lie cat at
door is what you supposed to say it's like prove it you know it's always like
girlfriend calling or your mom's calling deliveries arrived I get my Uber
eats I guess I should rub them directly no no get them to sponsor first an
an unknown delivery man at my door.
Other... see, yeah.
We'll be unbranded.
Yeah, if you're on the BBC, you have to say,
other options are available if you do accidentally mention a brand.
That's all right.
Big smoke from Nervy.
Yeah, butterfly on the void.
Scan doesn't connect.
And W.S. Floyd back in his base as well.
This is the classic hunt-the-dawn-breaker move,
and they see empty camps knowing...
You had a lot of time to take that too, to be fair.
He's post. Pause, smokes are really weird.
They usually either do completely nothing, or it's the largest momentum in game swing of all time. There's no in between.
Pretty long rushways, Fallen. Niko with the quick fingers there.
Pull the trigger on the dual-stab. Let's just stop the Earths that are arriving.
Still coming, though.
What's the big ATV as a voice for the nightfall? Nobody's out there. Oh, not get bashed
That's color
Opportunistic you think there's a little bit of insult night falling in front of night falling
They used your signature move against you. I
Don't think it'd be insulted. I think it's a little rice mile in this face. Give a thumbs up there
I see what you did there respect our respect. You made this I made this
the inventor it's like everybody laughs at it till you got to do it
not so funny how's it feel now
cover bands start starting covers of your music are pretty happy about that
what's fun is they don't get more popular than me
we should be paying in royalties every time you we can be TP out and I fall
gets a dollar that's what this game is royalties for nightfall
he's collecting right now that's for sure 22k lead
We lose days and PMA got the juice.
They're in an interesting spot here.
What is going on here?
Parallel with Aurora, kinda behind them, but you're on the hood, mate.
We've got the juices clipped and PKB'd.
Don't break your arrives with their supernova on top.
They'll take down Riddies.
Mirror's killed off, but that's all you get as an RV.
Got the squirrel, time to bail.
Gotta catch on this putt, though.
McArna may be going a little bit too deep.
It's fake-bombing the RP.
Nightfall's in with the stuns to stop TMA from catching his mid, and a stolen guard in the heel of the pot.
The damage not enough!
Oh, Link, who comes in with a final touch.
Just about taking Makoto down, and now, hang on a second, they're in the fountain, being dragged back towards the base.
WS, let's go hammer, BKB, run it back, try and get through the back, or he'll keep you out of the bash.
Look at this, he's about to catch this Stormbreaker, hold her in a track, and WS is gonna die.
The false prophet.
He said the nightfall works every time but it betrayed him
Is that a throw Gary? I don't know it kind of felt like a little bit of stuff. That's a pretty big throw
Yeah, like how do we end up fighting behind tier 4s? That was the fight he chose to take
Was the roach coming off in 10 seconds here? A little forced. 4 and a half thousand that was swing. A little forced
You got Jim out of that. You got a couple big kills as dawnbreakers off the map forever because he's so damn high level
Right, the spaces will get injured here.
This is unacceptable, you're right here.
You're supposed to contest this.
A thousand percent, they have no chrono.
You can buy the dawn, and you absolutely should buy the dawn to take this away.
I'll deal all these ready in two seconds,
because I can buy and sell the Guardian in.
Yep.
There's no way you should ever get boarded ages in this game.
Mira.
Okay.
There's a lot of damage actually to the Magnus.
Turned to half.
The Groshan's dying.
Gotta go.
No doorbreaker yet. Fire Spirit's into the pit.
Gotta go.
Roshan's fallen, Aegis grabbed Jaff and Mera he jumped in to die in the midst of Na'Vi.
They all surround the squirrel. She's gone for a minute.
Oh.
Come back time.
Yeah, this team...
Looking up for Na'Vi all of a sudden. They even get some D-Words using that gem.
Whoa!
I don't know what's happening. We're in the Upside Dattle all of a sudden.
Well, this is going to be a nice ages period for Navi. This relieves a lot of pressure in terms of them gaining out the lanes.
Like, they're going to claim a tier one here at 40 minutes.
That's got ages for freshers and cheese. Thank you for putting Roche on.
That's true.
We've cooled down so many times. We've got the third one for ourselves.
And our freshershort is so big for this line. That was not the Roche on to give away.
Goodness.
And more importantly, he took it away from Aurora.
He's like, that's how Roche is supposed to end the game.
Because you're accelerating them and you're playing off the Earth's timing, now it's kind of out the window.
Scotty done, forgot the juice.
These are not the line-up you want to be throwing those bad teamfights away.
This guy's just such a classic face-to-foil thing, spell his-ness, like,
okay, we're losing, we're losing, we're losing.
40 minutes in, hang on, one good fight.
Yep, full test.
This 14k lead...
Is it meaningless?
It's...
Not 100% meaningless, but it is.
Not meaningful, I'll put it that way.
In a straight 5 on 5, you're not that favorite anymore.
You don't feel it?
Knifel's finished off an MKB.
It's also the Dawnbreaker's network. A lot of this is through WSB Mega Fab, but the void actually is unplayable in the leaky.
Like there's nothing you can do as a dawn against the void really.
avoid really.
I've got a catch on him.
Heads into the mash, but the fuel step is there.
Cookie and a time warp.
He has some out of danger and they're still holding this chrono.
I don't know how they want it to, but Na'Vi is going to be disciplined.
Get back to that top lane, push out waves.
It's kind of interesting they didn't look for something more there with skewer backs
or like a reinitiation or something, because you're pretty strong right now
with all the ults up, you have that refresher shard.
Maybe just wait for faceless void 25. Really strong challenge in this game.
Top of the network, sure. But he's got to finish off this swift blink, and then he's pretty much slotted.
Curious hex was pretty cool to start things off there, but he needs so much more follow through to kill off a void.
It's a long break of this little... isn't that far away?
Do you want to skip out on buyback?
What am I assuming you...
If you're gonna go head on into these fights and I'll be straight on the Phoenix here to
blow up...
...theory!
Just RQM.
And now map space to push out this tier two, man.
You got the juice in front like this, having two minutes on age.
It's pretty happy just to sit there and head build it.
And that's his 25.
Backtrack, hall line.
Broken-ass talent.
He's not main vulnerable.
He's a problem.
And he hasn't even really gone, you know, he had to skip the aggs type of build of this game,
just so he could survive more of it.
He gets an aggs in this game, it's gonna be an annoying issue in the fight.
And there's a VKB used by the Arista, no spread of TP.
But you're just spending things willy-nilly here as Aurora.
I hear a lost there, a spell spent here.
Those are big.
Nobby have it. You know everything up. They still have a fresher shot on max. So there is an rp looming there
They've done high ground?
Why not?
There's no way they get the first lane of baron.
I hit her, dropped. It's looking like it. Aurora they have stumbled hard in this game
They have to fight something.
I have a pause.
That was the server lag, I felt that was
Ten seconds for the sort of 13 for this phoenix. Unlucky for some, we'll see if Aurora can bring him
Back to the battlefield and get something done.
That's the wait a little bit.
Try and start this fight as the Phoenix is coming up.
But your rat is gone.
The building's dying.
WS leading out.
Navi have already stepped up the staircase.
This mirror, he's gonna get all of us.
He went back into the danger zone.
Dead.
With my back.
That was fast for QA.
So quick.
And then Na'Vi again with the choices.
Push out these lanes.
Perfect position is dying to be in.
Playing from enemy ancient spawn.
Pivot from one lane to another.
Top to mid.
Got a lot of gold too.
They have 6000 gold and got the juice.
She wants to buy out for something else here.
Yo, he could still go defense in this game with Lincoln's
because they have so much damage now.
He can go more aggressive with Bloodthorn.
He could buy his own refresher.
He can pay for the aggs and eat it.
A lot of options here.
The danger's expired.
15k swing over the past couple of minutes.
10k plus advantage out of that Aegis.
Effectively way more too, because...
Is that worth the void?
Yeah, it's like the net worth on Navi counts for so much more here as we get closer.
So I'm not saying that the lead was fake for Aurora, but once you lose it, it's way more difficult to get it back.
That wind probability has inverted.
Oh yeah.
Nobby's favorite.
Put Aurora down to 81 for an RV now.
I mean, they're super favorite.
They have a Magnus triple melee core lineup with faces pointing the way to it.
I've never imagined a hacker like this, the first one.
So it's 35 minutes of this game, maybe more?
It was all that tier 4 dive, and you lost Roshan.
Just one terrible sequence.
Chucked it.
Absolutely. Chucked it into the well with Jimmy.
Oh, Jimmy.
Why is it lasting when you need it?
Not in this game.
Oh, it's red. There's only one on the smoked.
Might show him on the wave.
Start with Riddies on this dumb break with a cannon PMA.
Into the chrono, the kisses landing, solar garden,
and problematic for Navi, though, with a stoopin' overlanding this chrono,
and bites you in the backside!
A failed execution from Navi.
A star on Earth, though, but it can't completely turned on and wiped off the face of the map.
That was not the chrono spear I
Have to repeat that that was not
The chrono to drop over Trecious
Because the Ursa has acts he gets pulled off in that chrono
And you get zero PKB's off if you're an obby you have three cores of PKB you got none of them off
You just effectively cornered your entire team without getting your knees off, and then
Aurora was able to pump everything on top.
Now you have no buyback, even if you lose your lane of balance.
That was one of the worst executions I think I've ever seen from a position of winning
the game.
They could taste victory, I know this is something.
There's a lot of ways to take that fight.
That is not one of them.
You should just be looking for the skewerbacks, you know, he gets the Ursa and the skewerback, that's fine.
Just play that a little slower.
But 80% win problem, guys got a line back again.
Swings and roundabouts.
Kids play ground.
I guess they were looking for Bloodthorn Silence into the stuns.
I guess, but now, while losing Riddies here, Deadpool's lift up.
They've got a skewerback in the fountain, Cookie's not gonna land though, and Macoto has the E on this to get out.
Of the dangerous situation that he was in.
And there's still 10 seconds with no void or void, tearfalls are dying and Throne's about to be exposed.
Aurora not looking for the finishing touch on the buildings though, just gonna let Navi wallow in the mistakes from the disastrous actions that they put themselves in.
And PMA starts it beautifully.
But see, the nightfall got ult off during the skewer.
And I think at that point you cannot just commit to this bloodthorn chrono idea.
It's not good, especially with nobody pressing BKVs.
There's way too much overcommittal on one guy here.
Even in this scenario, let's say that goes perfectly, you have to assume that this horse has caught.
Yeah.
So let's say you kill him there, he buys, keeps these outposts, he's had a good fight in the long run,
it still could be a terrible fight. So, that's why I say that idea is just not it.
Even if the bloodthorne connection lands before the air salt goes off, which
in theory is never supposed to happen there because you can always ult on that skewer.
And we know it, they know it.
Well, back up to 30k, it's like the throne never happened, look at that.
What a nice, consistently solid game here from Aurora.
Just ignore that little blip on the graph.
Never happened.
Now they have a full Wind Waker on Mira.
So these supports are starting to bring a lot of extra network to the table, some saves into the mix, Aeon Disc on Pock.
Oh, what an interesting game with Dota 2.
Yeah, I'm just looking at that graph. I've never looked at the icons of the buildings in that graph.
A lot of buildings went down. A lot of team gold.
It's like a turkey in an oven.
Smoke up from Aurora.
It's still a minute to go for Aegis.
Any kill here could secure victory for them though.
We're currently looking at one dire hero with buyback and that's a snap fire.
Fist of the Void has actually just gone his.
Look for the gold coming his way.
So got the juice, holding cheese, holding buyback,
holding out hope for an attempt to pro-shan,
because Makoto is going to make sure that life isn't easy.
Chronosphere catches him and the Phoenix, though,
has got the juice for the health of the Kisses.
He will step to the air though by some time,
and got the juice gets turned on quickly.
Surviving them out!
Going for 100 seconds while the bashfuls...
down.
Nice day, snap fire.
Narvi just getting dismantled one by one.
Really nice jump from Nightfall there, he just jumps to the Magnus the whole time, forces
out a bad RP, no follow-up on that chrono.
Ah, the batch there on Niku too.
Kill the line in the back line, there's WS and Kerrigo deep.
Got the juice.
Gonna try what he can with the cookies forward.
Can't deal with WS though, this tanky dorm breaker.
Face tanking everything.
Run straight into the middle of three.
Na'Vi, one nightfall, he's dealing with the buildings.
Now he's on the voice for it, low.
Niku, in a bit of trouble, we've got the juice.
He just got only damage.
Doesn't have a lockdown.
That's just the game.
Can't do it on his own.
What the hell?
GG gold.
Okay, well, I thought Navi had come back into this.
Yeah, very interesting.
Game of Thrones there for sure.
A little bit, no way around that.
I think everybody in that game is gonna admit it.
Well played by Aurora.
I think they did ultimately do the correct things to win that game
in terms of itemization, which is, again, we talked about
if you're gonna go ulti-blade against this lineup, use their hope. I think the hope is an overwhelming
gold advantage. Having the Wind Waker, which they had. Having the Hex Threat, which they had.
Having the Abyssal, which they had. The Ags, DKB on the Ursa, which they had, right? They bought
all the right items in this game. Did they throw it at some point? Yes. Overall, I deserve to win.
I don't know if I'd say that. I feel like neither can really deserve to win.
And I think if they both lose that game, we just replay Game 2. That's probably most just here,
but uh it was overall better played by for the majority of them. Yeah, I mean this won't
not be an early game, shut them down a lot. No, I did well to come back a little bit,
but in the end it's won a piece as we head into game three.
Which is not necessarily continuing the trend of a lot of our upper bracket spheres,
it is on the mainstream because par vision and liquid did go the distance,
but Falcons and Tundra that was a 2-0 for Falcons, Spirit and Bebombe that was a 2-0 for Spirit.
This one, though, is going to distance, although it was touch-and-go for a moment, so I'll say this is where I get some Kronos.
I was like, well, hold the phone there. Seems like Navi may still be in the scan.
Yeah, I think he realized he heard T as a newer player as well. He heard that the more people you catch in Kronos, the better it is.
It doesn't matter from which you buy.
to the team mates, there was a five-man chrono in the end, the kind of be all end all type of chronos here
But I gotta say Aurora as we said they did a lot of adjustments to their draft
They said it looked better than the team number one definitely did and the WS they last picked his dawn breaker
We were kind of having some doubts how much he's gonna be able to get from this game and he did get a lot
He cooked
He had three fire in the lane had really good early game at the same time too if I'm looking at Navi
They lost both wisdom shrines
But then still took like a lot of fights in the early game
Which they should not have like when your snapfire doesn't have all they didn't really have the most damage to like throw into their
Corona and have good early fights. So I do have to say that those are quite big mistakes from them
But Aurora overall they definitely stepped up in this game. Yeah, it was considerably better
I do agree with Avery though that like they're kind of faltering and I also
I also think that it was played a little slower than it could have, like there were long periods where they have like a 5 or 6k lead, but they're not really doing anything, they're kind of just farming and Navi's farming and then there's a fight and they get some gold lead and then they go back to doing the same thing.
And I feel like they could have pushed the tempo faster, like they still win the game, you know, don't get me wrong, and I think overall it was relatively clean until we get to that later bit where they throw some.
But definitely not like peak performance yet, but it was an improvement, so it's the right direction for Aurora for sure.
The speed I guess was someone being medicated by the Ursa. It seems like they were waiting like for the Ursa Aghanim's timing
Second Roche didn't go their way. It was a second Roche or third Roche? Third Roche didn't go their way
But it was overall a better Ursa game as well
Yeah, that's that because you had the distance Ursa on 18 which did allow him to have a really good game
He had a very good lane. You see FaZe's way trying to do the same thing with the battle for you
built but he was so far behind and completely different game when Ursa is
the one who's controlling the age something we said for game number one
you are playing against Templar Assassin in the first game which means that if
you lose one fight Templar Assassin takes that for the like five six minutes
they're gonna be controlling pretty much the whole map and then it gets much
more difficult but this time around Nightfall he's obsessed with Ursa and
this time around it did work out for him. Yeah I mean kind of for the right
reason here's I will say the best Ursa out of all the players that you have
like obviously on the carry roll but also even with the lead they had this game this game got spicy
yeah like they were only up like a to 10k gold at some point and against the draft that they played
against that's not that much especially not a late game mag void they just got a little too spooky
for me in this game no i think i think uh i think they're not favored once this game gets to that
last point well the last fight i think they should lose this fight i think they honestly just massively
misplay it like they corner their old team and they all die. I think if they play it slow like that is a big part of
on faces void is supposed to play like in teamfights if you jump in jump out
We were talking about potential buying acts here instead
They kind of just get owned by their own team and then what can you do?
None of them have five acts
There's just over all that like I think that the style of void later game is you buy the eggs you buy the shard
You jump in and jump out and you just keep giving vision
You keep annoying the any team and at any point on any of these jumps you can corner them and so they're always like I played against this
I remember the game we played against Spear in the finals, where the TOR is doing this to us,
and you can't do anything. They have Void Mag, and so you're thinking constantly about,
where's RP and where's Chrono? And at the same time, he's jumping in and out,
and it's just like, there's so many factors that eventually someone sets that position.
You get secure, or you get Chrono, and the fight's over, and the game's over.
Like, it's so hard to play, and they just rushed it.
And at the same time, too, when you do this, because out there breaking out of the motion,
where, because you're slowly playing for the moment that you then grab where you know you're
you're gonna win the teamfight and they rushed it and when you do that you need
to be very certain that you're gonna win the fight which obviously did not
happen like those moments you need to be very aware especially as the carry
player when you jump the gun and this is just one of the things where Navi they
are inconsistent and it shows at that moment because this game they could have
still wanted. I mean there was a really deep dive you're playing against Magnus
you are not respecting the enemy team you're just blanking in following
Mikoto who's deciding to jump in. They were trying to poke, but it seems like they were not on the same page in terms of what others think that needs to be done.
They were like kind of poking, but also not, and then they skewer back into the tower.
We've seen it many times, they skewer into the hex and then immediately you have damage to insta-kill people.
This was kind of their comeback, but that one fight, that's all it takes.
Maybe also Faces Void was a little bit shy about jumping in because I'll give props to Mira.
I was criticizing him last game, but Hoodwink was on point this game.
The early three-man bushwhack that he got near the top bounty rune.
Instantly everyone on the tire evaporated and I was like, oh, okay, that's it.
This is a sign of good things to come from Aurora.
So the Hoodwink was much, much stronger in this game than the Lion in game one.
He did really well. It's also, there was like this clip later right around the Roche.
You can tell when individual players still make you feel pressure in the game.
You know, when they're going around and still doing stuff, whether they're outnumbered or not,
just because they play the moment.
This guy is a TI winner. He's obviously very capable and he's amazing.
And in this game, I think he definitely showed it, because in some of the other games,
Lion is supposedly one of his best, and he didn't really do much in Game 1.
He made up for it.
It's a sign of a good progress, which means that now both these teams are quite competitive
After seeing game one of the second Navi's got this locked up game to Aurora. They've very much woken up. Yeah, they did
I also
Gotta go back to what's Navi like the way we described them. They had a pretty good
First part of the tournament group stage looked good six and one game number one
They have four players who are doing really well
Then you have Niku doing Niku things that this could have easily been a 25 minute game
And then in the second game like it's like this and then bam
You know they have this we're we have a liftoff Houston and then just nothing happens
No more like a part in the end. Yeah, much they ran out of the juice
It is a very consistent problem for them
And I wonder if it's something they'll actually be able to fix because we've seen this game a million times for them where
They just throw the game in the toilet one player another makes some mistake and you know
We heard Niko in the interview talking about like whatever their five zoomers they're young none of that experience
Like he's kind of saying it like it's like a cool thing to me
It's a negative thing like none of you have experience look how you lose games
Yeah, like I think someone on that team needs to mature in some way or be able to make calls that
That simplify the game and that make the game like easier to play like the spirit team
There's a reason they're so good late game because they listen to one voice
They have one idea like this your tour guy. He just says we're gonna do this or this collapse guy says
I'm gonna jump this way and they just listen they just shut up and play the game
And I feel like they got too many cooks in the kitchen or something because they're burning the food
I mean it's either that or also the fact that they're all young right so they need
Sometime cuz out of the game they have C1. Yeah, obviously will help them a lot and okay like next time we do this
You know take like, you know take a bit more leadership on the carry. What are we gonna do next five?
You need to do this but in the game you need to kind of go through these scenarios
I would say especially this one that just happened because that's a big slap in your face like you're gonna remember
So, you know my boy GTJ he'll do better. La cost
He definitely will I I sure hope he does because he will they had it in the back
It's a shitty feeling coming into the third game knowing that you made this huge comeback
All you had to do is have like one big fight and you could close it out and you didn't you it's like
There's two different sides, there's Chrono and Chrono no, and he went with the other one.
It's okay, five units in the Chrono, that's all he was looking for.
Unfortunately, that's not the kind of ultimates that will get you the win.
We'll see what CY is lecturing his boys about, because they've got to prepare for a game number three.
Stick around everyone, and we'll be back with the final game of the night.
I got out of this one, got the ship under the door, the cool box sitting on the back seat of the car, that's sinking past you.
To do everything
Take your toes in the water
We're out for the sun
Take your toes in the water
We're out for the sun
Take your toes in the water
We're out for the summer
We're out for the summer
I'm out of this world of issue on the go
Look at what's here, all the lights you're walking on
The secret house to the blue and the fair
I
You may have a son of a bitch
You may have a son of a bitch
You may have a son of a bitch
On top of the world
They thought I'd never make it
But here I am on top of the world
On top of the world
On top of the world
On top of the world
I'm so bad at love
I'm so bad at love
Look at me
You know that's my team
Who the hell are you?
Who's the real black man?
What's in all this talk?
Watch the noise out your heads man
What's in that bag?
Stands him in a game that makes a son of a bitch
A bitch that makes them war
It's tough to break your feelings
Your fat energy sticks in the ceiling
All of the people screaming
Really, really tough
But that's the style that can't go to the con
See what it's made of
All of my fat energy go with it
We're still squeezing out over here over the sick place that Aurora were dropping.
Because that was some fantastic build to your channel.
Hell yeah.
It was exciting.
It was thrilling.
Thrilling.
Late night Dota, baby.
Exhilarating.
Rejuvenating.
Rejuvenating.
I feel a moisturized flourishing in my lane.
Unbothered.
Unbothered.
I think that's wet because we don't do much.
We really wanted to play this ball for like five minutes.
Welcome back everybody.
I wanted to throw one ball.
I missed one ball.
I think one ball.
You were in the back.
How many balls did you throw?
So many.
No.
repeatedly keep that on the cost okay so the person the person who catches the
ball have to face something like there's a fact about that correct something cool
something cool yeah level 25 for face of Savoy talent is breakable it's the
only talent in the game that's breakable Tannock had a garbage can I build
earlier today on next post and it griefs the game to but acts before heart which
gives you one damage per tick.
If you Earth Spirit Agnus Scepter Enchant Remnant, the Phoenix Supernova Ag becomes unhittable.
Oh, that's good.
If you Grimstroke Soulbind an illusion hero to his illusion, you can make two dark portraits.
This last round.
Last round, Hero versus Hero name was Fuzzy Wuzzy in Dota 1.
Very important.
Kezu is good at Darkseer.
Everyone knew that. Everyone knew that.
Wasn't a fact, unfortunately.
Take it. The choice is yours.
Different things are happening elsewhere in the draft though.
So a little bit of a mix-up, Aurora gaming bumping up Night Stalker to a Phase 1 ban
and Navi says, okay fine, you're gonna ban out Night Stalker, you're not getting your
puck this time and Navi returned the favor.
Instead, Aurora will say, so be it, I'll take Tiny.
Alright.
Yeah, that is the natural progression of things.
Monkey King, really?
You know, they had a draft the other day where they picked Monkey first out of the phase
and the second phase.
So just 13 Monkey King.
I believe they ended up playing it as Kerry, so they must know something about this hero
where he's gonna go mid or safe lane and you just have good matchups.
Which I would say is not the case. This hero has a lot of bad matchups.
But they kind of picked the blind.
He's also not particularly good against Tiny.
Like it's fine, but it's not...
Like you see some offlaner that you crush and lane, or that's traditionally good against, or some support that lacks spells.
Like if you go on Tiny, he avalanches you.
Or he tosses you away.
Or he can burst you or he has Silver Edge against Jinggu and can fight you like you have high armor against here
That's all physical damage. There's a lot of things about this matchup that are not particularly good for Monkey King
I'm a bit surprised too. So when they picked it and
Gave it to mid it was against a pango. Yeah, and then they had it once more with Magnus
I believe they had it with Magnus and that was second-phase pick though
13 pick yeah, I'm
Also curious what justifies and then their last time that they picked it on Kerry. It was also second phase
So not much data as to what makes it first phase priority
Is it good against all the other heroes that they might play like on Mr. Cotto if you ban a club?
I don't know something like that. I mean you can still make some form. He can storm
He also plays Windranger from the mid lane, so they have two good options at least
Yeah, I've seen monkeys do okay
Sh against tiny it's that thing took it it depends like who's getting what if tiny is using his combo on somebody else
else if monkey is staying if he's playing from ahead it can make the difference like all of these like stacking damage life stealer
Kev's can also go in favor of him compared to tiny monkeys kind of the same thing as well
If you're fighting for a longer time if you use your combo you are on cooldown
Yeah, and want to see what the rest of the lineups gonna look like yeah
Rubik is still available in the pool. There is no on board
So maybe he loses a little bit of priority coming out of the face right away
This one is very good. First of all, you're covering your own monkey. You don't want to give it away into Aurora
And it's one of the best heroes into tiny. I like this one a lot
Also, I think prioritizing the four pick is not that important because you took the lion last game
You lost the other team lost with lion jamming it again
It's sort of ignoring the way the series is going sometimes there's look there's there's picks that are supposed to be good
And they're good in the turnip. There's not winning in this series
You're like, okay, whatever they're not winning
Don't pick it for now. Like just wait and see a little to later
And then maybe if you get the chance later you can still pick it
But like don't force it and like just just wait on it a little so perhaps if we see in the coat of storm spirit
Then the priority gets bumped up again. Yeah, they have very potential or you know
Maybe they take hoodwink and then they save the for kick for last and then it's there's nothing else there
Yeah, there's living
Well, she actually bumped up the most picked hero of the tournament
interesting
Yeah, she's picked a lot. Yeah, that's 63 times. Yo, just looks good
We've seen it played in four. I've also seen rule played on plus five, which honestly looked pretty good as well
Just versatile good laner follow-up damage
We love a lot of things in meta to be broken as well. Just feels very solid. I think this is like a
Skellshot hero, but with these professional e-gamers. It's really not as much
It feels like they are kind of having guaranteed bush wax. It's all like a man. We're getting so much pretty much
They know and also the fact that chasm stone is available as a cheap neutral not neutral
But the item that you can buy for cheap. It does make this hero so much better
and
Indeed as a puck replacement and as a counter to a potentially mid monkey king. Maybe it's being discouraged. They picked the storm spirit
Yeah, they also had good bands for it
Nightstalker and Underlord and Huskar all already banned, three of honestly the best heroes against Storm, so you're set up in a pretty decent spot.
Duma also banned, and Puck like it's a lot of stuff. You could pick an Ember here, but then you lose your Flex on the Monkey King, so their offlane pick gets better.
So it's an interesting spot where normally you'd want to pick your mid here, because you see their mid, and generally that's the protocol, you see a lane, you pick that lane.
But you're sort of at a crossroads of do we want to save our flex or do we want to
The shore off linear. It's still like very good Ruby game instant lift like spells that you steal from tiny fields
Really nice avalanche is a giga spell for like very cheap that you can get them lower cool down
Stop that you steal from hoodwink also feel really nice bush rack or the sharp shooter while she's charging it feels good
There's that or the lion
And then maybe you just go support offlaner and you still hide the monkey
Lines, okay, Rubik you also mentioned all of them are pretty
Okay to me, but just seems difficult is
It would be nice if they can save deflects in my opinion still because otherwise if you show this monkey now
That he's a carry it is quite easy
There's a lot of offlaners that make his life really hard to play you can just get by for it, right?
Yeah, so you're looking at some offlaners, perhaps?
Like, you could look at Tide or Slardar, maybe?
You're talking Tide heroes or specifically?
Specifically.
Okay.
Man, I really set myself up.
Are there others that are really good against?
Because Tiny Carry, first of all, is kind of bullshit.
Like, this hero is very strong.
You need some other type of commerce.
This is good.
It is so they keep hiding the monkey they get the lion against the storm spirit and they get their offlaner who is good against tiny
Yeah, I will say so for sure
I also think lion timber saw is a very classic pairing because lion wants a tank
But he doesn't necessarily want to catch because if you have like lion Mars
It's kind of low damage so timber gives you the damage you want with all your disable
But he also goes in for you and gives you vision
So like he's running in and being a chungus and then you can stun people
So it's like that this energy is I think two of the best combos rely on are timbersaw and huskar
Because they're they fulfill that damage, but like also a fat guy who goes in
So what's the 18?
WS hero
Okay, a dawnbreaker
Had a lot of success in the previous game. He looked extremely good
especially during the laning stage. I don't think that lane should be as bad
for Faceless Wood, but they played it so well, made his life miserable. He was
like level 3, 5 minutes in, and then they also lost the rune, the exp rune
because of that, so felt really good. And you always will have ways of setting
things up. Pretty much every hero on their side, setting up for Dawnbreaker
Alti as a follow-up, and we saw how effective it was. And this is the hero
that we've seen yesterday in tiebreakers this is something that playtime uses
really well we saw it earlier today as well it just feels very good especially
if you're like lacking some of the damage and they have good amount of
magical plus physical combination especially because it's scary tiny but
percentage-based damage I think this tiny has been answered in terms of like
what they have with Sunray with Timbersaw as well being very annoying I'm not
I'm not sure if they would go with Necrophos in this, I don't know how you feel about it, they could have still picked a carry, I believe.
You're saying why ban out the Necrow?
Yeah, I could see a word where they can still play it just because this hero seems overtuned in a way, like even if, like let's say we think that the tiny is answered, the hero when it has a good game it just looks like it's the best older hero right now, out of the heroes that I've seen.
powerful with a good game and it may just be more a fear thing more than
anything sometimes you thought maybe WS played one pub against Nekkar he's like
I can't play this match up this matchup stocks these are just bad it because you
know people get pub PTSD all the time
I could see something like Invoker for Navi I think they're also totally like
monkey king is spying in Storm and Lane the lane is not a problem especially
with lion beatings these stuffs are very strong in fighting runes so it's
it's definitely okay
you have a preference for
carry versus mid monkey king?
or are you just presenting both options?
um...
i think both are reasonable i don't know how this lane goes against stone hoodwink
generally and then monkey is pretty bad against hoodwink because
if you try to commit for jingo then she just stuns you and you walk away and
reset the jingo so
also if your phoenix is five it's not really what monkey wants out of his lane
maybe if you put lion there with disables you can do better
Where are you taking, Buckman?
That's a new bit, this guy just keeps stealing one thing at a time.
They're feeding them.
Ha ha ha ha!
Hell yeah!
Vettelman, sir!
I'm just really glad that they decided to step away from Warlock and all these shenanigans.
Thank God, I agree.
They have no cooldowns whatsoever on their side other than Bon Alti,
but that also doesn't stop you from fighting,
So I feel like they could potentially abuse this.
I would be okay if they had Venomance or with Ursa in the first game as well,
because you're playing against Night Stalker.
This is the vision hero, allows Storm Spirit to get the really good jump,
allows Tiny with the Shadow Blade to find supports in the backlines,
and pretty much one shot him once he gets to his item timings.
And they end up making the Monkey King a carry, which makes Pango mid.
Yeah, so I guess they think that the lane is fine,
Which it may be I think pango is one of the best core heroes against tiny because he's got a pretty small manifold
So if you start the fight with roll and you lock on to him
You either force an oppressed BKB, which is great because tiny hates pressing BKB for free or you burn all his mana
You can't do anything afterwards. So I think it's a very it's very good game matchup. The lane against storm is fine
It's good against dawn too because I mean you're rolling around you'll care about some stupid downbreak road
Do you just keep rolling through?
It's a good pick and it gives them like they just have you look at knobby trap. This is very well rounded install it
I think this is the most even of the games in terms of draft.
I think both teams have good drafts, and it's a lot about gameplay.
I don't know, I just like this Venom answer a lot.
I feel like just permission that they're going to be having,
there's going to be quite a lot of action going on.
I feel like with both of these drafts, because they want to be fighting,
and also heal reduction.
You can not say easily, but the Venom answer is the type of a hero that he needs one fight,
and if you get Spirit Vessel against the Timbersaw Phoenix Monkey King,
it's such a valuable item to pick up.
Is he going to be able to survive a Timberstahl Lion Lane, though?
Probably, he can if he doesn't step out too far.
Because most Timbers right now, you don't really want a skill chain.
It's like such a dog shit spell.
Like you just max your Q, you max your armor.
So he should be okay unless he really missteps.
I perhaps slightly lean Na'Vi, but I agree that it's very even.
And there's a lot of gameplay to be had in this game.
And it matters a lot how Na'Vi also play their early game.
I would prefer if they played onto the Dawnbreaker lane,
Like bring your pango there to the monkey king maybe even in wait the wisdom shrine because in the last game
They lost both which set them back a lot. So that's what I'm looking at
I got the ball of the truth here. You all got a turn with it. But how about our casters?
Oh, I'm ready
It's hard to get momentum when you're sitting down, all right
Take your pick here speak some truth now imagine you're holding the ball
I've got balls in my face.
I love this like crouching pango hidden monkey king kind of draft where you know you keep something hidden till the very end.
I've got balls in my face.
It's right here in my face.
Pango is a super busted hero. I think they've got it.
Okay, Avery.
Ask the chicken, Neil.
Hold the ball.
Okay.
What is the...
You can give it to the chicken also. What does the chicken say?
The chicken's guys
Take me into Dota 2 because I don't want to listen to Neil anymore
That's what the ball said. That wasn't me. That was the ball a true a true conduit for everything though
Well, I'm still talking when you get you get leave me. That's shooting. It's not how it works
Hello, welcome to game 3 and I'll be up against Aurora as we get into our final game of the evening
I like the panel said a very even draft between these two sides way more straightforward and simple to see you want a game
The plan is, between these two, I'll just pull up against the pango, the chipper against the tiny, tons of team flight, and I'll go long to get shoved down.
How are people for so many things?
Very close draft indeed. It's really hard to pick a favorite here.
Kind of a little bit of everything. I do really like Last Pick Pango. That's some juice right there.
It's hard for me to bet against Last Pick Pango. It's just such a disgusting hero no matter what.
But I kind of like a rose line up there. Just looks nice.
You're a Venom lover?
I love Venom. This is my highest win rate hero of all time actually.
Oh, I don't even click!
Yeah, in pubs. Like, if you had up all the games, I've ever played in Dota 2, I have like a 75% win rate on this hero all time or something.
That's pretty good.
I love, I love meets and defendants. I used to pick it a lot too when I was drafting.
I just feel like he's a very under-respected hero, because you do need to be a spammer on this hero.
You need to understand him. He is not that simple to win with.
That lane looks easy, but the rest of the game, yes.
Yes, like you really have to make the little things count on this hero the positioning you have to be just enough to bait them
But not that you die so easily and you get your spells off
You know to place the wards you know to fight around the wards
He's a kind of a complicated concept of a hero even if some of his dominance is very straightforward
Like I get you and I can now trade you sure but a lot of the finer things of in a program
This year can be really difficult to win with because he can become dead weight very quickly
Oh, yeah for sure and then itemizing this this
It feels like a double-edged sword sometimes, where there are some heroes where it's a straight line of, you know,
A, B, C, this is my progression of items.
Venomagric doesn't necessarily need anything, so he's very wide open.
He can give the game what he needs.
I was like, support Phoenix is very similar.
Very high damage heroes, all their spells do damage, they don't have a lot of disable, but they can buy anything.
And I think that's why, again, the execution can sometimes be really difficult.
If you're not a good team at itemizing, if you're not a good demo player, understand what you need to buy for the team in every situation.
Then a lot of your impact goes out the window.
For me, Venos' impact does come from an extra network that's going to gather off the map,
that's confusing words.
Extra network he's going to have by winning lane.
Extra network he's going to have by snowballing game or securing objectives through some of
his early dominance.
If you translate all that gold into useless shit...
What's the point?
Yeah, there's no point.
You may as well pick 5 vision and niggas, just try and block, drop a black wall.
But this is why we look at your plays like snaking, right?
Venomaly sometimes operates the same as a Chen does.
I'm kind of 3D taking areas of the map.
So I think it can do a lot here.
It can also fall very flat.
The Timmer matchup is often not fun for this hero.
Let's see what I can get done here, but I kind of like a lower draft overall.
I also like hoodwink. This hero just feels really good to play with.
Low cooldown disable, great follow-up.
They have the Storm Dawnbreaker, China combo.
They have Tiny.
The Na'Vi draft I think also can meet them on a lot of these factors and I think the Pango is the big X factor
just rolling in, there's no real answer for the Pango on this game because it was last pick
so you should have this huge frontline teamfight disruption that can just throw a wrench into all of these nice Aurora plans.
The gritties, they spent the time earlier on to disengage.
Nice dog.
These low cooldown spells being spammed into him.
Got the juge trying to get some damage back on WS.
A little kill threat.
Nice to see him staying late and far, but a good first blood for Aurora.
How's the dog breaker?
Slowed down here.
He can't get there for a deny or anything, so Nightfall...
K.O.R.I actually. Thanks for the kill.
Nightfall, not happy about that one.
He'll spend one for the extra XP.
As he knows, K.O.R.I can bring out more regen, bloke grenades.
Venom doing work early.
The early part of this match against the Timber is really nice.
Once the Timber gets more levels and the rest of the game he kind of just dunks on you.
You can buy magic resist items, you can buy dispels.
He's a mobility hero.
The mobility hero, Venom, really sucks against mobility cores, so he's gonna have rough matchups against the Pango and the Timber in this game, but in the early portion, you can definitely make their first 10 or 15 minutes of living now.
So, gotta extract as much as you can right now in your cavalry and translate it into some good stuff.
GMA does have the full stick with 10 charges, so he's kinda chilling here more than he looks.
That's perfectly fine.
Yeah, this Tiny, you see these Banes, Chateauphines, Drows, whatever, to deal with the Pango.
Tiny can't do the same thing until he gets super stacked in items.
If you need someone who can just click the Pango during roles, like do something with...
If Pango gets a free role under the fight, what do you do to run away?
Kite him.
That's pretty much it.
Kill other people.
You have mobility on the storm, the Dawnbreaker in theory isn't in the fight at the start.
Tiny is a nice silver edge entry that you can kind of pick a target. You start on the penguin
You just all in them with solar guardian on top
I think those kind of moves are gonna be really good and this is Pete Venno gameplay right here. You wanted that ruin. Oh
Mr. He's dead to the gales. He's trying to bust love. Okay. Yeah, that's charge
Still very closely went down to 20 even at the end and a long walk back to base that damages don't
What would be losing out on that mid lane against the Storm?
Oh, it's a big one. Huge win for Mikoto here. He's gonna really out level Niku now.
He was already winning this lane, which we've seen it's been Storm favored the whole event.
But now, you're gonna be level 6 early potential to just kill this Pango when he comes back mid too.
This is a big point of pressure right now.
We'd love to see Aurora use this. Either bring the hoodwink into mid off of TP, just jump his ass and kill him.
Oh, TP bottom.
Ah, they saw this coming. They felt the line rotation. Really, oh, really not coming in as well.
Two-man stuns, disconnect, and mirror now, the one that's separated.
Being focused down by the two-dye supports, I can't even get a trade out.
I felt like Aurora had a decent move there to react, but now Navi bring even more numbers with monkey king rotating.
Because there was this triple range creep going in, so Navi knew
Nifle has to sit down and tower to get this. They have creep advantage. They bring the numbers.
It's a really nice time to cancel this, not much time you can do to fight back in these early stages.
And you kind of miss your window to kill Niku mid?
He's still a level behind.
But now you're hoodling from bottom to bottom.
The PMA just plays forward into wave.
There's a lot of damage coming his way though.
Pop's a big one, but full-stress arrival is going to secure his end.
Now Daisy's in behind enemy lines and this Storm and Venomance have chased him down.
How are you doing work done here?
Might look more slick and choo.
I'm expecting monkeying to get involved, but...
...he feels way from that top lane and realizing bottoms and that's a bastard.
I mean, nice rotation for Mikoto. He gets to clean up a big core kill and gets to the Foundry Road on the way back,
so it's still gonna be good resources. You don't get that cheeky kill on Niku here.
That's the sad part of all this, but you do deny him that powering, so...
Still feeling great about this game right now if you're a whore. Another strong lane phase from them.
Couple hiccups, but...
You have the top two CS, you have the top two net worth, you're cruising here.
It's gone, the storm combo is going to be strong as hell, because there's no save for it in this game.
Like what is your turn around if the storm just jumps in, pulls them into Solar Guardian and will follow?
Is there a bad dupe?
Yeah, Sun Ray him like...
Yeah, you can drop a full Phoenix combo, you can drop a Wukong, or you can drop a Rolling Thunder to try and turn that.
That's a big ulty wasted defensive, isn't it?
The thing if you get kited out you're gonna feel really bad in that situation
And if a roar just get to be give these later
There's no be giving control this lineup so you can't always commit for that and just cut it out
Reset those big old to go back in that's kind of the style tiny likes where you like spining out one entry to the fight
You just destroy that first guy, and then you get to pick
Okay, wait we get the most bite. We're all just chill and now you're playing five before I'll go do roads
Or I'll kill somebody else to look for another pick off
So I see yours
really tough to play
Yeah, even though you've run four heroes down into his lane and quote-unquote shut him down or pressured him
He's still there with 32 last hits having a okay time while your monkey gang is being run under his own tier one towers
All spread out around him from behind to get a bonus kill on Riddies as well
A mirror double kill picked up as they can now press forward onto tier one top dream star for the Venom 203
It's kind of a nice early item of this choice if you want to try and rush it it's still or something of that nature
punishing these melee cores in the early game. This is when you're a
distraught sterile. Your spells are insanely broken, so more action
curry finds them in a war can set up for them happier they're gonna be overall.
He gets a little wisdom trying to exp here.
And a d-word. A lot of little things going his way.
Pressure mounting on Nekir, but especially for him to get something done here is another active rune, get smacked away from him.
Solid Guardian and the Spawn Zip in between Neku and his teammates. No chance for days already to react.
Very quick play from Aurora. Because so much of this game is over the wait for this lane phase breaking down, rest on this Pangolier.
Oh, can I call for the hero damage right now? I rarely call for this early in the game, but I would really be curious to see what this hero damage ring does.
Look at that.
4.8k on this Venom, that's what I was calling for, this is a level of like 4 Venom who just dealt
5000 damage in the first 8 minutes. That's more than some calls doing an entire game.
That's insane, I felt like it was high. That's insane, I'm glad I called for that because
this is what this hero does, right? He's just so annoying in his laning phase.
And he's here again with Makoto, they see the pango coming in so I know Tiny's now safe protected
by a couple of buddies.
That's actually wild.
There's so much damage for support.
I don't even know if there's another support that can do that much.
Like net worth? Damage or impact?
Oh yeah. 5,000 damage from Fairy Fire Branch here.
That's insane!
Yeah, what more could you ask for?
And now you get to jungle. That's the beauty of it.
Now you just get to flop some playboards down, farm up.
That's really cool stuff here, up 3k early on and a lot of it's due to the support duo from Aurora just setting up so I slew the Ambicodo on them in lane.
He really did quite well, did mess it up, made a nice rotation, now he's pretty geeked back to already up to 6 galvanized stacks on the storm.
Nice attempt by Mira to catch the jumping monkey. Doesn't land the bush whack.
It's going to be nice for him while Tiny's getting whirled down by PMA.
Jeez, that damage.
Into the shotgun and down he goes.
This time, not protected by the Phantom Anster.
Not respecting that.
I'd have to go into the high strength here.
That's great, Harvey.
Desperately needed.
Oh yeah, needed to play in this game.
Niku is not having a good time.
He's getting stolen by his Venomian, sir man.
Level 8, he's like, guys, you know, I'm doing the Mal Ring build here.
I'll help my ulti until a little bit later.
I've got it. I want to use it suddenly sees three heroes in his lane
Issue those who he's gonna play with him to give him that extra little on the roll ins with the damage follow
Not a lot earlier. You just it's just you're gonna have to farm the diffusel and then start skirmishing that
That's where Ror can start to pressure these towers makes the more moves of their own
Joe bought a definitely help though really slowed down nightfall and
You got a tower out of it as well. So a lot of space on the map. Just off that little cheeky kill
do lose tier 1 mid. Moves like that could become a few of the far between though. WS with a
solar garden could prove problematic if you do start on one of these heroes. Yes, you can use
it offensively with a storm, but that reaction as well. If Navi do try and make a play, Aurora
have a lot of tricks up their sleeve. Soul Spirit just gets to farm ancients to finish off his
I like them start floating into Aurora, but that 3k lead has been mitigated a lot.
That one kill bottom has done a hell of a lot, so open up the tier one.
I think they're pretty happy scaling here though.
I would be confident scaling this game.
Especially with this storm.
I think this storm can do a lot of damage in the late game with like one or two defensive
items or some team help.
You have the tiny good start fights where you have Dawnbreaker come back, you know, if you
you get caught by the line. It's not that easy of an all-in.
You have this one link you can play with in the mid-game.
And if you get to that late-game stage where you have, you know,
Parasma, Ag, Shard going through, you can pull
even two of these heroes on top of each other
or the melee course together, it's just...
they're just gonna get annihilated.
And so we're up to seven galvanized stacks.
No, Niku. Just has to backtrack through the jungle.
Try and meet up with his buddies at top.
But this leaves active runes open for Aurora.
I'm going to have a bottle of damn damage.
I'm not full going to go and say bottom again, try and farm.
I should all go around. Your enemy carry is farming, enemy mid-lane is farming,
that amount is farming and your monkey king is sitting on top of trees waiting
because he knows something's coming.
Well they see the career reign. They see it bounce off the tree.
Oh they know. What a good idea but
move to the gate. It's going to be a little late. It's already successful.
They need to be a little faster on that move.
He landed, but a nice escape here, without the shoes.
He'd go the early mage slayer on his monkey, so he is ready to join fights and have an
impact here.
It's a very good mage slayer.
He wants some extra magic, because he's against overwhelming magical lineup.
Reduce that damn Venom's damage.
Oh, sure.
It's definitely not going to keep up at that pace here in the game, but he did his job.
He's taken another tier one top here, so
Be some space for a war to play with
No, they're swarming that bottom jungle. I'm playing with a bit of vision up in the high ground area
Taking jungle camps. They wouldn't ordinarily be able to get starting to move in towards mid where the Phoenix
Pending as the tree uses storm
He zips in
Aggressive without damage
Days and really from the sidelines helped out by the monkey king jumps in from the tree top
Okay, go to the Zips away, you're leaving Mira.
There's that roadkill left on the floor.
Nice tanky.
Strengthreads, 1400 HP.
Nice heat hero, bro.
Just tanks, the finger walks it off.
Nice collection for Navi.
Especially not losing anything that's amp damage, that was a huge threat on that.
14 armor on the storm.
Pretty handy.
When you're dealing with a lot of early physical damage out of this monkey and pango.
Everybody's a tank in modern day.
Now Niku, I don't have the fusel blade thinking about the roll and the thunder.
Rune is bottled.
Kira, try to get pushed to high ground for the damage.
I think I pushed high.
So quickly his corpse lands on the plateau above him.
I made it, guys.
Take my body home.
You usually get dropped six feet under once you get upwards.
Well, he's a snake, so.
Ah, slithering it up.
That's what they do.
Oh, yeah, there's a dawn breaker in this game, huh?
Top of the net worth again?
Kind of forgot that WS was a chillin' to bomb and creeped.
He's very good at constantly stacking the double camp as we saw.
Just getting real fat, real early on this hero, not trying to force too many bad moves.
He's had a perfect game here so far, 2-0-2, level 12 as well, by the way.
two levels ahead of anybody else in this game, pretty much.
So that's a nice little spot for him to be
with the early LT2, get that lower cooldown,
a little more impact.
I kinda like how WS plays this hero.
I think it's one of those better heroes.
It's one of the better doll breakers in the world.
He's just very methodical with it.
I think a lot of times people feel pressured
to do things or be involved in everything
and their farm slows down a little bit,
they're a little poor, they don't execute the lane as well.
It makes this hero feel a lot worse by catching up sucks.
I think it also plays really nicely in tandem with Mikoto's hero pool, which is obviously
a spirit of going heroes, for sure, and then, you know, lightbulb moves itself straight onto
Neku, up and pangaloo, gone.
Too easy.
I think when you give the player like Mikoto more firepower behind his hero so it's not
just him trying to make the play, he's got to find open.
Now a pushback on this phoenix. Starbreaker with the damage of Mira.
She may be being tagged up by the poison and pretty nasty stuff here forced to chain down to low ground.
Do you have a pushback of 2? Is he free?
Close?
Yes, up there.
Not a fun spot to be in though, being harassed all the way back to your base.
As WS goes back top to continue farming.
Those big collects 2 kills straight back to top, full resources he is.
live in the life
well you know it how much of a target might fall compete
install a gun to save your body so it doesn't have to be getting teethy all the time
also might fall down
start at his path to recovery
eyes on great face
just get shadowed and you get one kill you're gonna be
pretty much top of the chart here
I'm gonna scratch him to WS to be honest with.
This guy is gonna crack 10k soon.
That's fair.
He's still working with BKB.
He looks really spandered nut.
Great!
What's he gonna do with it?
Don't know who's nut that is.
I guess it's his nut.
I guess it's his nut.
It's foraging!
Let's fix it up.
Mid dive though.
Get small techs back in but Makoto.
He's surely eating the nut man.
I should not have been there.
He didn't up the trade him cause he gave him extra boost beats.
He got there a little faster side.
Well, they'll allow themselves to go on the Storm Spirit.
Or they'll change stuns to take down Mikoto and even the catch on the Venom Anster.
I bring the three Corsi, finally Narvi gathering their forces and getting something done.
They needed to get something like that in this game.
I mean, so quiet.
Especially on the Storm with those galvanized stacks.
You gotta reset him a little bit, you know.
Let's get out of here.
Ah, damn, from Mira.
I'm gonna slide Storm on the way out, but now PMA's hot on his tail.
doesn't have any friends so it's basically just down to PMA if you can
catch this hoodwink. Don't say that man he's probably nice. It's just difficult to keep them.
Just tend to sort. What the hell are the Phoenix and the Supernova?
He'll just double crash and get an egg down. Three more hits. Oh, that's enough he's got it.
The Venomata couldn't help out fast enough. Mirrod ends up dying.
That was a weird response from the war. It was like really delayed and then they just got
sucked into it so not only do you lose that hero you end up keeping a bunch of
heroes mid including a tiny look for signs not there
give him the run around right as Navi building up some early fighting items
it was nightfall in that fight it's kind of nice having two Echo Saber heroes to
deal with the egg but Tiny was just not involved
he's gonna look for more action now with this Shadowblade completing
That's sort of his timing.
I have this monkey dead. Juicy monkey right here.
His sword starts it off, then a tiny comes in.
Lay out his stuns, the solar guard in, make sure the sunray doesn't heal him up.
And then toss them into it.
Killed off, and now Niku, that's a lot of damage from PMA.
Stunning on the knifle's tiny low HP and shred it down.
So the sword gets it done, but now he's being controlled up.
Fullster reset.
No way you chased there into the full-storm, Anna.
I'm not about to turn around for Na'Vi, just gotta make the most of these aggressive moments.
Gonna get that big tiny kill, feels pretty good here.
Storm didn't get much out of that.
This is where Na'Vi feels strong.
Lion blink, Timber's level 13 with Kai'Sanj, tanky and tons of damage.
I think you just find solo jumps there and you'll be really happy in those situations.
And you still have a free pangody, so every time this rolling thunder goes off, you are very favored at that point in time.
Pango's gonna have his blink soon.
Ooooooh.
And Kodo?
Do you sniff it out?
Yeah, and Lyon starts it.
Blends you damage to dump into the storm.
Didn't have Vanna for the finger, sad.
Only one stack.
Reliquid phase of play from Narvae though.
Now Rora started running things with her aggression.
Now they bring this Timbersword to the forefront.
A hero that we've seen a ton, getting picked mid draft or late draft, really showing off his prowess.
And honestly, becoming the carry of the game, you know, we're looking at both of the offlaners here, being top of the net worth, highest damage dealers, most annoying heroes to deal with.
So they can just survive through pretty much everything.
The timbers look pretty good the last few days.
Any time ATF is playing that hero on win with this, it's gotta be pretty solid.
Nice little objective here for Navi, not too easy, but they'll get it.
Nice little sharp pick up too.
Not a bad one here against all the pageant team, honestly.
Still amazed at how high level WS is, he's almost 17.
20 minutes in.
What the hell is going on?
So for comparison Storm is 14, as is Tiny, as is Monkey King.
That's what I'm saying.
Now, it's his bank!
He just keeps getting farther and farther ahead.
He's so efficient on this hero.
It's wild.
He's a beacon he's done, too.
They can just sit bottom lane, keep pushing against the waves.
Join that mid lane fight if they see someone to start on.
And they do!
It's Beacon who's trying to chip away at playboards.
You just can't exert yourself into his mid lane
to deal with a Venom Puzzle 5 playboard like that.
And smart call.
Didn't drop the Solar Guardian.
So very efficient around the map, you did not need it for that kill while the single target burst damage.
Do we go again on the monkey? Absolutely, you could here.
I got the juice. He sees this catapult. Destructive.
And there's the jump in the back there on the Venomance, a storm.
It's like you wanted the Phoenix, but a quick hex out of days stops with his tracks.
Now, though, with the solid guard in, Vortex grabbed, they'll kill the Lion off.
Also, clipping the monkey king down from the treetops.
I think I'll cut by the bees, though, actually.
actually there's some tree cutting on this WI I'll look out a little bit I don't
have any friendly flower out timbers full Phoenix we saw some friendly fire last
game that's all gonna stay that chrono those look friendly fire chrono what do
you think they're gonna get revenge on him are you cronod us will cut your
trees I guarantee you happen to point scheme
He's looking for teslo charges, that's why he's kind of stuck to this.
Hlayer, teslo monkey, zero charges.
Double heat, he's on this dawnbreaker.
What?
What?
I mean, it's just free farm?
Is that what I'm playing?
Caxon or something?
I don't understand.
What?
He's just extracting Morgul next beat from this game.
Has he got some xp talent?
Have we brought those back into the game?
So much check PC please, PC check, Padman.
Are we even a chicken? Greed is good, I see dead people.
What was it? There's no XP on that wasn't it?
10k damage out of the way.
So we're a couple of games in Dota Visions, we got played with broken experience game.
Online.
Oh yeah?
Yeah I was in 1-0.
Like built into the game?
Yeah it was bugged.
So here we're just getting more experience in the game.
I remember we played a BOT against Mertis Pro when they were in their prime.
And whoever was on Rhee, or whoever was on Dyer, was getting double XP.
Oh.
From everything, from everything, and they just smoked us.
And then we learned about it half way through the series, and it's like, well, we can't
do anything about it.
So we have to play with the bug in game two to bounce it out, right?
Yeah.
And so then we went to the broken side, and we still got smoked.
That was that was really hurt
To get run at by VP. Yeah, when they're so much better than you that they beat you while you're cheating
It's like yeah, that was the idea. I need a career change
Let the Ramses the Ramses. Yeah, I mean they were smoking everybody. Yeah, they were hot
I mean they won like four major in a row or something winning all the winning all the cars
He's got enough mercs to last a lifetime
I thought it was my mid with your trap apparently.
It's just really good.
Was that back when Denyce gave me more experience as well?
Maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe.
I mean, Navi, think about playing through this Timbersoul.
It's level 16.
Nothing about Roche.
Agonyceptor.
This is an interesting Roche call.
Like, okay, if you're not going to do anything, as a Roa, we're just going to take objectives
off the map.
Not the fastest one, but there's no signal, no intent that we can test it as a Roa.
No one's nearby.
There's scan, no vision, no play rules, no nothing.
Really, Navi are getting away with more on this map than they could have in Aurora had played it perfectly.
Because they have decent heroes at hunting, you know, this, this tiny right around the storm to jump anybody with sword or any backup.
They just haven't really found chain pickoffs, haven't found a lot that's even with Benno kind of taking some space away from Navi.
So Navi have done a decent job playing from the defense.
And I'm just finding a lot of farm on these top two cores.
Get into position now, he's got bags full of agonist Timberstores, pretty much untouchable.
Make a jump on him and he turns quickly onto you.
Catch onto the Phantom answer with a rolling thunder, crash in, deal with Kaori.
The animation has that one all locked up, while the pango weren't fishing all the way
in the back.
Got a bit of vision here on the dawn breaker, but his teammates need a little bit of time
to catch up.
I'll put into high ground off the tree, I'm not going to do too much about her.
Yeah, it's felt like Aurora should be the ones that are zipping in, solar gardening,
having this tiny inbiz and hunting.
But Navi now have what?
BKB Monkey King?
Phoenix is level 12, Timbersaw has the bling on top of all these tanky items
so he can actually make that surprise jump and blow someone up.
That numbers advantage game that Aurora were looking for.
Nice, it's Navi's now.
Tiny's gonna blow up the Lion though with a quick little 1-2 tap down, and the Storm's sipping towards this Timberstore again.
Solar Guardian and Tiny's damage. As a Cyclone,
into the sky, just throw things off and finish him off with a gem dropped on the ground. Even more money into their pockets.
Really big to get the gem there. When you have this Nightfall Tiny running around in viz.
That was one of your best defensive mechanisms against it. Now that's gone.
Nice little entryway here for Neyfalta, a certain dominant.
How much you can do to ask for that?
Isolated heroes are going to be a big problem for Naughty. Aurora can ever just... all dogpile
on one dude at the same time. They have so much single target burst, and you don't have
saves, so it's just a nightmare.
You don't have saves, you don't have AoE really?
Well, what are you relying on?
That's what I'm saying, like, to stop me.
It's like rolling thunder with the Wukong.
Yeah.
It's awkward.
It's kiteable.
Now you have this gemless squirrel run around,
so you have to deal with the map.
You have Venom playgwards.
A lot of vision mechanics for Aurora that they can play around,
especially in a static area.
Between the two supports, you have the Distiller,
plus the acorn, plus the vento wards
the storm that can zip in and give vision zip out
he could be makes him invincible in this game so
the onus on Navi here is to find ways to start fights reliably
either off of deep wards
I like to force him to rush on for that
like I think that's another way to do it
just do an objective and make a ward decide if they want to fight you or not
if they do then you can drop this wukong and you can drop the trolling thunder
and you don't have to worry about punching them or starting on them
I'm next time though, you're gonna be fighting into this triple BKB.
It's calling.
Tiny Dawn, we've had that for a little bit.
Storm is about there.
Doorbreak is already working on another flier, it looks like.
I'm on 21.
Tiny's overtaking him in net worth now, finally.
Top of the board for Nightfall.
I'm going to stop his harpoon.
That was inevitable, I think.
He's had so much map space to play into.
He's slowly shifting towards this mid lane.
Navi's stopped and killed the hoodway for now.
Nightfall trades out one for one.
Got the juice. Going mana in mana with a tiny.
He wants to fight this one, but his age is still having a minute left on the timer.
Arora, oh they missed it.
Dawnbreaker Boston has Solar Guardian.
Kaori gets kicked out of his mid lane by Got the Juice.
Arora being quite defensive until this factory jump in from Nightfall, blows up the Phoenix.
Solar Guardian forward, Niku bashed up and stunned, getting controlled on his way out.
WSBK Beads trying to starbreaker into the middle of them while Nightfall is standing his ground.
Vortex back with the Monkey King, he's gonna find him and blow him up.
The first life gone, but Niku just rolls away.
PMA. Big bad Timbersmore's arrived.
His BKB have got the juice, and Office Detection gets the magic, but not against Nifor's right clicks.
And he's down and out!
WS still able to tank through it while PMA couldn't stick on a target, he's been kiting around.
BKB TP out from Nifor.
Did nothing, he couldn't do anything.
No! Perfect like I am in the fight, but he even gonna get dazed at the end.
And Cherry on top.
Great fight from Nightfell, he has to be the damage leader in that, I mean he found so many good connections, double avalanche on that re-initiation.
He just ignores him for the entire time, absolutely the right column for ya. 5400. Beautiful fight from him, getting a lot of work done.
Some of these timings taken over this game.
And that's where I go, like division mechanics, the multiple sources of initiation just seems easier for Aurora to kind of pick and choose who they're going on and how.
and you've got these big cores from Naughty running around.
What did you get out of your Wukong here?
What did you get out of your rolling thunder?
Your Aegis.
Yeah, even the Aegis.
Didn't really do a lot for you here
because you can't freak the damage from the lockdown.
You're just wailing on this tiny.
He just takes it.
Too big to take.
Too bad to me.
If the line is dead, you literally have no sons.
So you're just watching the Rory heroes back away,
re-enter back, just swiping through their abilities,
Re-setting over and over again and monkey king getting tacked up by all the damage over time
He can't jump the tree tops can't hide away
The pango rolling thunder to disengage and hide your agents not ideal for now be
And they need to push towards the Hatcher territory on pango
Scotty monkey
You can hack the Timberlater get some disables on their course. They're not as relying on the lion
It would definitely help a lot in this game. Those are all big items and weighs away good. They invested in
some early fighting here like Dag's timber the the deso monkey still the
only has that the one kill on that deso and this comes back to that gem right
the ability to just ward de-ward do what you want the tiny doesn't get
scouted definitely a huge factor losing gem against this tiny is so miserable
as you saw there you got to jump on your Phoenix Phoenix got nothing off in that
fight that's a massive deal economic damage these dire supports nasty business
Trying to make something happen now as Navi tighten up and play together in this mid lane.
And show the pango swash on the wave.
Looks like it's Aurora's turn to smoke back.
Phoenix, well he's given up his position.
Riddies with a dive away, but the Fendamats has already put the poison on him.
Blind with a stun back, but Tiny's just in there.
Two supports are obliterated.
Now a monkey king BKB for what?
He's gonna bounce us, try and jump, but he's still stuck on the cliff top.
Lift up, Lukas comes out, try and change the guard and dodge away from danger, but he's
being hounded now by Makoto, picks up the Monkey King and lands a row for Aurora.
I am damaged doing a lot of work there for Makoto as he just lays the belt down.
Now to 18 galvanized stacks, level 20.
He's going to go into the Shiva's, build up some armor, he's going to have a null fire
on the Stormbreaker.
Tiny's coming for you.
Knifel's ready.
A couple of taps onto this Niku Pango.
He's solo killed?
Solo God is gonna come in and help out.
Very nearly solo killed him.
Needs a little bit of help though.
Miracle?
Egg on shot.
Turn on the boomerang.
The treetop.
The shot shoots out.
No, they can't quite get him.
I have Pangolars still doing Pangolars things.
What?
We're a real hero, bro.
20-26.
There's no way you should do all that, but...
I guess that they solo-garned a little earlier.
You probably guarantee he dies.
I almost still want to kill one of those.
That was nearly pretty disgusting and uh, you have to jump.
There's another one that I call. It's real tough right now.
So what should I think about it? Do you see a hero? Just press your buttons on them.
Supernova. Gonna get clicked down here.
And it gets scrambled.
Navi, they put PMA on the front lines, charging forward to try and get on top of someone with
Monkey and Pango bringing up the rear.
No rolling thunder.
What kind of street?
I told you what happened!
I told you!
Monkey!
I told you!
Oh!
Oh no, Navi!
And now there's Pangal here, rolling up and getting walloped, crashing, bang!
Down he goes, mirror dives in, nullifying the timber source, a new Agoniteceptor for
him!
The guard in forward, not many crumbling, it's all falling apart.
The threat has been pulled, he'll come back and kill Mira at least.
But the bashers and the stuns connect, or the finger of death, with a tower hit, that's
not enough!
Not even a trade kill out of it.
I kind of, I suppose Sloth can't pick up the gem here, he's gonna have to sacrifice
something.
Good guy, let me get a bottle of someone.
Give me a WX.
Good teamwork.
Damn, what a fight.
I don't know why this tiny just broke this game open, they don't have anybody who can
really tank this combo and not pay a huge price for it. Just dealing so much damage
to all these engagements. WS has a free fight because he can just enter on top of that and
he's chasing people down, bashing them, doing whatever he wants. They're just playing this
game 4v5. Every single fight is 4v5. It's still easy to kite, right? You kill lion, you kite
back, sunrace the band, PMA's got nothing. Look at these hacks for scooping over there.
What do you have to protect it nothing?
Absolutely nothing. I just knew this tree coat was coming man. I knew was coming at some point scheme
It's the worst place in plan for it to happen for him. There's like one tree here, and they're both going for it. Yeah, good to work
Half moon does get blink dogs for that fucking let's strand it deforestation
And then Aurora just diving up onto high ground past the tier 3's, a big ol' toss in, near
a snipped skywards.
That's the little freeze frame right there, the beast of death.
That's the what the fuck am I watching face?
It's now Daisy being zipped upon by Makoto.
Just a feeding frenzy man.
Na'vi, the lion, the first man down, means they've got no stuns, which means the monkey
king inside his Wukong's command has got no stuns.
Which means the Monkey King inside his Mucon's command has got no friends to help him.
Nothing has stopped the advance, the onslaught of Aurora fighting another pick-off.
A 20k lead, and Game 3, we thought these drafts would be more well-balanced than the previous ones.
But Aurora's saying, no! We've got the Knifel Tiny!
We're at 25s on the dawn and the tiny year.
Oof! Super nice pounds.
Ah, his team just got smoked out of nowhere.
I felt it really went obvious way other than I guess PMA kind of getting some stuff done on this timber
The pango was completely neutralized as much in picking really have impact. He's still sitting on two deso charges
Never found anything with this build up
That goes a line of barracks
Still a mid tier two, but there's an outside damage room down the bottom spot choose here
down to it give it to tiny
he's not gonna probably still take it
oh come on give it to him
the thing is he doesn't need it
oh damage already hit so damn hard
no damage
it's a waste
it's over a kill
oh no we got it
no
not allowed
there's the pango basher
that's part one of the control solution
I expected more out of this Timber Sword, to be honest with you.
But now, you will start to buy from Mira has actually undone this agonist timing.
Usually we're waiting for dollar flyer or something to deal with it.
Mira just says, okay, you press aggs, I use you.
This is a great game to showcase in one of the weaknesses of Timber,
which is you really need stuns in the lineup to play with and to amplify.
Amplify his damage.
They can't even kill Mira.
Oh, Makoto's on the days as well.
Moosefied time and time again.
When the lion dies, there's no chance for Navey to fight.
VKB's pinned by the Timbersaw.
Monkey King doesn't have his either.
It's a domesquare with Aegis.
I'm pretty happy just to sit in front of tier two.
I've got some vision here, Navey.
Let's see what's coming.
I just don't know if they can stop it.
Nightfall working in the shadows.
No heroes, it's just a wave to clear.
I'm not gonna be angry too, Riddies.
I'm not the easiest game for you.
Downside of getting stormed to Aegis Heroes, you can't just hit the tiny on the high ground.
It's a little tougher to break here.
Should just be able to look for a jump though.
Especially if you can throw some Peno words up there.
Yeah, that's what I was about to say.
Just watching the pings.
Those little dire pings, they've seen Mira.
They're doing fine.
Alright, got a scalped.
That was pretty clean.
Now hold on to that base now.
Double those deso charges too.
We're on the board.
Oh yeah!
We're not in a rush to do anything.
We need this WS Dawnbreaker to get six lives.
But it's a blazing big deal.
Alright, we're getting into the luxury items now.
You can finish tags on the bell.
So magic resist reduction.
Quite good when your lineup contains tiny storm.
You got that boomerang going out here,
And you just finished Parasma the magic and plus reduction just scaled through the roof here
These heroes are gonna explode
Okay, okay
Down goes days
Monkey gonna buy back for this and they supernova something right in their face
But Carlos going for the clicks to finish the egg and he's got it done
They can buy back on the Felix now
And it's got the juice makes a move for nightfall trying to bounce right forward
He's so stepping and juke in half HP tiny
He's gonna shrug it off and break free as WS gonna arrive
Go around the edges of this Wukong's command finish off gaze one more time and dive forward trying to deal with Makoto
But the monkey king is just being controlled up. They'll finish one life with the spill on but when monkey king
reappears out of the statute taken down by Kaori now ready wide open to get blown up by WS
3 kills, no buybacks on the side of Narvae, and Niko is being spam pinged. Looks like a last ditch effort to try and get something, some pride, something going their way.
But he won't find a kill and he'll die, will Kaori? Shaka? Not enough to finish up the Phantom Master.
Fear may have to dive in deep for it, but I would be nullified to stand packing back to his high ground.
I bet he might be able to clean something up here.
I don't know man.
Sneak one out of him.
In the middle of two of these guys.
WS McCartney will offer plenty of damage.
I've got him down.
At least the doorbreaker falls though.
PMA offering some good damage.
Not PMA staying strong.
Grapefiber in these little 26 now.
Didn't get the tiny at the start of it.
Not the worst fight for Navi to figure out the situation he was in.
But how many buybacks was that?
It was a decent one.
He's definitely a decent amount here.
He used Monkey, Tango, Phoenix, and so...
Quad by...
He didn't buy the Timber though.
He's the real carry.
He's got 7000 gold now.
He's kind of high.
I wonder where you buy in this situation.
I would probably say hex, because it feels like you need some more stuns in this game.
Yeah.
Think an Octarene?
Hmm...
Hmm...
Yep.
More damage for sure.
We don't want you to take something home to die.
if you go stuck on that place as well.
I think you just have to use the old money spells,
because so much of the time in this fight has been
trying to find this tiny kill.
There's an entire other fight developing on the backside.
That's what ultimately costs you so many buybacks here.
So you technically have to take two fights,
which requires two lives on all these heroes.
Of course you're also fighting into the Makoto Ages,
which is doing you no favors here,
especially with the over 30 Galvanized stacks.
Just as much mana regen to play with.
And I got like WS, Dawnbreaker.
Better metas the series.
Might be going up the priority in the ban list.
So it feels like they're pretty comfortable to pick it.
It's not in phase quite early on.
I think he will play this hero.
Almost anything. He's always been really comfortable in the hero.
There's a team playing well around it.
And now we're all looking at another lane, tier 3 buildings, just up here under the weight
of the tiny.
37 Galvanized, by the way, after that place is Nisha territory, always a good name to
be in the same arena with.
Sure is.
Speaking of side-device, better maps, I just finished off here.
Ah, no, that's nice.
Timber did get one, that's the right call, it's a big item.
item for their lineup. Maybe a little too late here, but hey, if you can go in, Hex's
Storm, blow him up. I think that fight is winnable.
Not against Mega Creek yet. Just a matter of holding onto your base. Just trying to keep
the high ground vision where you can. That's just where Storm thrives. Jumping from cliff
tops, counting you out, but he was close to PKB and didn't get a kill out of it.
Respect the Hexapack up here.
No Roche for two minutes.
So got a Navi.
Last stick, Emperor.
Find the hoodwink.
That's a freebie.
Got that damn squirrel.
Dead for 70.
Might not win this game, but we got that damn squirrel.
I'm in this place, now I get some face time with the waves.
Getting a little farm, a little bit of this, a little bit of that, 30k damage by the Timber
Saw, 14 out of your monkey, but 12 from Pango?
That's a bit of a rough one for the 1 and 2 here from Na'Vi, but they combine 5 and
14.
And look at a 14-3 and 8 tiny.
He's making a jump straight and onto Riddies.
Going for the better part for Minnet and Niku.
Just keep him to exist 100 seconds without him and this is where it all falls apart.
You got the juice.
He's perhaps down.
He's gone as well.
And PMA left stranded, high and dry.
Nothing to float back home on.
No life raft.
No golden parachute or anything.
I'll try and BKB and jump and give him a bit of space for nothing to chase from a roar
of an offensive catch up to him and take him down.
He was just dying so fast, this Timber's kind of a beast but he needs the fight to go along
so he can kind of kill people in return for him losing heroes and they die so fast for
it so little.
You know when you said it was a bit sad I said he had got no friends or buddies earlier
on.
Yeah he definitely doesn't in this game, he is just trying to solo carry this one, it's
just not carryable.
too much single target burst in a lineup with vision mechanics, a save against a lineup with no vision mechanics, no save.
Like man, you would have had to execute some of this map. It's a perfection, another chance once you fall behind against this lineup.
And when your BKB's down, this fed-up answer does so much work. Your axe is getting dispelled off by Nullifier and all this business.
Now we're gonna jump onto the WS. Try and start without the hex and chakram.
Your tier 4s are crumbling now and there's still 20 all the seconds until the cores are back up for Navi
He's the code and grab a tree just smoked up
throne is open
Here comes the supernova the snowing ulti out of the Phoenix nice bolts from time for Navi. They're not out just yet
This game 3 can continue, and in Timberstour, maybe we can show what he's got.
Immediate hacks out on this Vennemanser though, and the dawn break is in on him while Nightfall
has blown up Riddies.
It's from a spirit we'll get the AOE Vortex to kill off the Lion.
It's got the Juice, Wukong's, BKB with the rolling thunder over the top, but they just
cannot keep tabs.
On this Makoto Storm, we've got too much disengage, and so does the Tiny.
Here they, down to low ground, still trying to catch up to Makoto while the Spogil Guard
There's a round of the heads of the Monkey King and the Pangalare.
GG.
It's over. Gameplay goes well, Aurora.
Take the series 2-1 and a very one-sided affair towards the end.
I like that draft from them. I think it's very in their wheelhouse.
At a certain point, they just flip the switch when that tiny's online and the whole map becomes unplayable.
I think it's something we've seen from Tiny in general, which is why this year was the first thing.
It's very hard to deal with his map pressure is once you lose your own map.
Like once you start to lose some more as you lose the gem in this game
Don't have these kids in the game
Because it's tiny took the entire thing over they get cornered and every fight is I just got the solar guardian
And just whack on people forever. So really walks you to here from Aurora that Venom did a lot of work early
Except the storm out for the mid game and then tiny carries it over the finish line another great dawn performance at WS
I'm at 1 in 22 on this hero. I had a ridiculous KDA in the series
Very methodical, very comfortable, and I think for Navi, this draft got away from them.
I think this one's just, there's too many little execution things that have to come together,
too few stunts for this Tricorps to really play with, and they didn't get enough out
of the pango, like this wasn't a good pango game, but what does he really connect with
here in the first 15-20 minutes?
Almost nothing, it was like 0-4, the supports couldn't really play through him, so I think
that was the big focus point here that just did not work for this Navi line.
I mean, they had that bottom-line play, which kind of whiffed, the line got caught out a bunch.
It was very difficult for Daze to connect on stuff, so Game 3, go to Everora, taking the win in the series.
Which means that Everora has had a very interesting pass in Dream League Season 29.
The first two days were rough. They lost all of their series, three of them,
created they were against the top of Sekunin Center Group. It was against Liquid, it was against Falcons,
then it was against Spirit. Since then, they have decided to just stop losing.
They beat everyone else on their way to this playoff bracket, and now they've won the first game in their playoff bracket
They have taken down Navi and will be continuing in the upper bracket, which is a little bit
concerning for Navi.
Yeah, something that I said to Navi
They got broken in the previous Blackout finals, but it seems like they needed like two good weeks
to fully mentally reset after what happened.
And the patch also dropped in the meantime, so they needed extra bit of a time
Nightfall the most excited on steenim ever
Little power speech guys we have done it yet again
I'm goaded with Earth. I'm going on all my heroes go to BKB user
most PPs of the game
Proposition 1. Most pings as well. Most words used on TeamSpeak as well probably.
We'll check those numbers.
I think KP is also not a small factor on this team, I think, because they were down one game,
and also the fact they lost the first three series.
I think recovering from that is not a small feat, like it's very easy to just crumble.
I think when you have a bad start to the group stage.
So I think it's impressive and really good for this team.
They are very strong mentally and able to recover because I think this is something a lot of teams have especially with
players from a lot of different countries and all different regions like there's cultural barriers and stuff like that
And so I think bridging that and still like having you know a solid team that can recover
I think is a very good trade for them also speaking of like the whole cultural thing like at the start of the season
I think it was Ali back in the start who was there and then later they replaced him with Kyori
I didn't have that high hopes for them because I was like this is a really strange like iteration of a roster
I was like this one's kind of weird and I heard other people talk about it
But they definitely like bridge the gap they made it very nicely and I'll say it as it is like in this game
I probably underestimate their draft
I think they also played incredibly well like all of their moves they take the meteor one early
They get all the runes on the coto like all of them played really really well
I don't think there's that many mistakes that you could call them out for so
So, just ask your gameplay.
WS for me is the MVP pretty much of this game.
He was playing a bit of a different game in terms of what he's doing,
because you're playing Dawnbreaker, you're going to be farming on the other side of the map,
you can see on the mini-map that he's just farming, getting the levels,
the rest of the team, they're making rotations,
but also the pick, I think, him playing this hero so well,
and what makes this hero so good is you have a BKB piercing tool,
items that you're buying in the late game,
He's also going to be nullifier, basher as well, so you have multiple ways of countering
whatever the supports are doing, or whatever the cores are doing, so it makes this hero
super viable in pretty much any single draft.
And also Alties that he used in the second game, third game as well, he didn't overlap
anything, he came just when he needed to come, instead of just being there, you know,
I have Altie, I click my R, I come into the fight, but he was also on top of the network
pretty much throughout the whole game.
It's just like this hero, when it's so the highest skill of dawn in my opinion, because it's not that complex of a hero to play.
But when you see a guy like really rock the top of the net worth all the time, that's when you know that they understand.
Because you're supposed to go to the play, then go out again and just keep maximizing.
And something else that I really liked in this game, I think Mira was always in the right place at the right time.
You also saw yet essence the slither with the yules, like just against the timbersaw to like purchase eggs, being the right place.
You'll people just get more and more kills.
I just think they played very clean. It looked a lot more confident and free.
Maybe that's also by the nature of Navi. I didn't pressure them as much in this game,
but WS and Aurora overall, good stuff.
Yeah, I agree. I also think there was a pretty big mid-diff this game.
I think Mikoto, he made two amazing moves, one to bottom and then one to top,
killing both side lanes. Like right off the bat, you won mid,
and then you also killed both side lanes. Like what more can you ask for in the first 10 minutes
Compared to Nuku, I think at some fight near like 20-30 minutes, he's down like 3k net worth on storm.
He got agged super late. I think he made some mistakes with his item build.
He sold Blightstone really early, which nerfs your farm speed a lot.
I think you should buy Treads, even if it's after Diffusal Blade.
Like there's a few small things, I think that to me, like he knows these things.
There's a little 30 Pangolier player, he watches replays, he tries hard.
The guy lives and breeds Dota.
To me, it feels more like a little bit of this than it is like a misunderstanding of Pangol.
because I think he underperformed in this game,
and it's a tale we keep telling of Aniku,
that I feel like there's just inconsistency there
that has to be fixed because when the rubber meets the road,
you don't win tournaments if you don't clutch up.
I just hope that this isn't the crack starting to show
for further issues for Nave.
If it's just a one-off, then maybe I do give the credit
to Aurora, and their support players behind it.
K. Ori, congratulations on the win,
And you're past what you've won like the last four series now.
So I was hoping to ask you about what you guys talked about
after day one and two of going 0 and 3
and now recovering to just winning everything.
I mean, we just didn't practice much for this tournament.
So we had like break.
So first days was rough a bit.
And now we kind of back a bit.
So then for those first few days, I did hear from your coach
that you guys hadn't prepared a bunch for this tournament.
Did you guys get worried at all?
Or you were like, ah, come on, it's Falcons liquid spirit.
It happens.
Let's just go to the next game.
I mean, yeah, it was lucky we played against strongest teams.
So we could afford to lose to them and win
against, like, weaker teams after.
It worked out well.
Now you're moving in the upper bracket.
But this series also went all three games.
I'm sure it's not a happy memory.
But what was it like playing Warlock in game one
when this Night Stalker was just feeding on you constantly?
I mean, I don't know.
It's just a hard game, just so high tempo.
We kind of have big heroes, we cannot really answer, so yeah, this was hard.
It looked painful. I got Quinn standing by for a question as well.
Okay, Oria, how's it going?
I was curious how much of the team, how many ideas have you brought to the team versus like playing, you know, using older players' ideas?
Because I know, like Nightfall and Mirror, they've obviously had a lot of success and been around this team for a while,
so how much of a voice do you have on the team?
Are you more of a leadership role, communicating a lot, or are you sort of a backseat and just play your game?
Hi, I would say I'm just playing. I don't really do any impact on drafts or can play.
Of course I call something, but I'm more focused on myself because in our team we have a lot of voice anyways,
So I don't have to do it. Yeah
Do you prefer to function that way or do you do you like situations where you communicate more?
Are you happy to just sort of do what the team needs? I
Mean I would say I'm happy because I'm more like focused on my game
like and I feel like I'm playing better when I do this way, but
I'm fine with both kind of
Yeah, okay makes sense
Yeah, you've got a lot of loud voices on your team, so I understand that there's not enough room for everybody.
K-O-A, congratulations on the series victory, and looking forward to how you do against Spirit later on in the tournament.
Thank you, Senjun.
Catch you later.
That is indeed their next opponent, because they are continuing to move throughout the upper bracket elsewhere though.
Navi are now moving to the lower bracket, which is especially troubling for them because if they were able to win this series,
They may have been able to lock themselves a little bit of the eSports to World Cup placement. Instead, they're gonna have to fight through the lower bracket.
We have now done all four of the series in our upper bracket.
We had Falcons taking on Tundra on Ember stream, and Falcons cleanly got that 2-0 victory.
Not too surprising as Tundra just narrowly made it through the tiebreaker to even go into the playoffs, and Falcons make sure of it.
of it. After that we also had two concurrent streams of a party vision versus liquid on our stream
and that ended up being a 2-1 and we had Spirit vs. BedBoom team on the secondary stream which
had Spirit getting a 2-0. Yeah, party vision against liquid that was a crazy series because we had
mixed assassin with heart. They were 30k up and still unable to close out the game and we saw
All part of vision on camera, never not to catch up on that one, or a good reason.
You see that after losing?
I mean, no one, he was going off in the camera after the game, for the right reason, absolutely.
It looked like the angle was like talking to Static.
I don't know how they're seated properly.
I'm pretty sure 9-class is beyond Satay.
I think so.
It was good.
The configuration of the players was good.
The seating was nice because, you know, you showed some like choke potential.
He could have choked him out for that hard.
Straight up.
Oh, you would have been like, nah.
No one was 100% snapped him like a twig.
But don't worry, they're not eliminated.
They just get bumped down to the lower bracket.
But the lower bracket is also full of sharks right now.
A whole bunch of teams are waiting for their opportunity,
especially teams that are also looking to get points
to make it to the Esports World Cup.
I'll show you the leaderboard in a little bit,
but I'll first show you the arrangement of teams.
Tundra, after losing to Falcons,
are now going to be facing off against Virtus Pro.
Party vision, oh yeah, never mind, they won anyway.
Wait.
Parity vision, party vision won, yeah.
So I mean, it's all as well that ends well.
Ah!
Yeah!
It's all as well that ends well.
It's fun, it's fun to remember.
Call us the guy who's neck went.
Wait, extreme gaming aren't...
Are they?
Oh, wait.
Oh yeah, the tiebreaker was just for...
It was just for after the one that's been
kind of got out, and now they went down anyway.
Yeah, so extreme are going to be playing against Liquid.
BedBoom team are playing against Vici Gaming and Na'Vi now will be playing against Playtime.
So, we have a variety of teams that are competing for points right now.
Na'Vi are on the edge.
We've got BedBoom team which are not fully locked, but they are comfortable.
But nothing guaranteed quite yet.
OG right now are sweating.
They are praying. They are praying that no one overtakes them.
And yes, Na'Vi, if they had won this series, they would have guaranteed themselves a lock into the top 12.
And then there's one more team, VP. VP are also hoping to get points.
Playtime? Did you switch to playtime?
They're under, they can still make it too. I think they're under, like this cost a little bit, because I know that OG, they're like praying and hoping, whereas we mentioned BedBoom, who are quite far up, like they can also still make it.
So, Na'Vi too?
Navi they're playing against playtime as well. Yeah, you're gonna be very important here. Yeah spicy one
I also think in some ways
I think it might be a bad match up for Navi because I think this playtime team
I feel like they don't play worse in high-pressure games
I always play the same like this go feel like
Killer yeah, he's an ice-cold killer dog. Look who's playing the same hero. He's played every game for 10,000 games
He's not gonna play any different like that's a scary matchup
I think if you're a Navi fan trying to see them get in the top 12. We have a new name
On the board to Nami. We have locked in
Mows they are guaranteed based off of the way that our group stage played off
There are no other teams that can leapfrog mouths and bump them out of the top 13 slots
Because Spirit also get their defending champion slot
So your goal if you are a fan of any of the teams on the edge is that they need to make it into top 13
game religion unfortunately it is no longer possible for them but wait the
Navi are no no because playtime can overtake them Navi's 13 they're not
even in well 13 counts because spirit get their difference okay okay okay
really the playtime Navi series is super exciting
series for tomorrow also regarding mouse like what mouse did this season on the
road to EWC they got the ninth to 16th place at DreamLeague season 27 which did
have 24 teams and then DreamLeague season 28 they got 8th place and ESL1 Birmingham they
got 8th place as well. But they showed up to all these players. That's why the points
matter. That's what matters and also Panto he just joined the team he's going for EWC.
He's got to be nice to him. You have it ready you're like you want to join our team we're
going to EWC he's like hell yeah. You say that like the team that he pulled up from
their bootstraps on Team Spirit, I count their victory and their placement at EWC to him.
He qualified twice, huh?
Well, thank you.
Falling him up by their bootstraps is like...
He took these heavy ass collapse in your tour, like, get off of that!
Panto Malan took the TI Winters to get on my back!
Let's go.
And then he was like, I'll do it again, I'll do it on mouse also afterwards.
We're gonna wait for that one.
Yeah, that's the narrative that I'm sticking to.
Alright, you know, you pick your battles, that's the hill you wanna die on.
Yeah, your tour and collapse, they're pretty heavy.
Yeah.
I like two feathers. We'll see how they do. Maybe maybe two EWC. Maybe they need the third one
We'll say we'll see who you guys also had in terms of your checks predictions for it today
we had a
Mostly party vision leading
But a little bit of a liquid
Nami look at you getting two points now what I want your point is not what I wanted
Man, they let me down. I had a feeling of my bones to the Aurora. I'm trusting my bones from now on.
Trust your bones.
Man, I thought Navi were gonna win. They let me down again.
Only lack post goes.
This guy's good. He's been on top all the time.
But consistently, Effie is always one point behind.
That's when it causes the best analysts to talk about it around the other shows.
We do. Here's the badge.
Yeah, Navi also let me down. Navi let me down and...
And we'll see. T'Nami, you upgraded.
Yep, from...
That you still last.
That's true. That's really what's important.
But it's good for you, because you are, of course, lost maxing.
Correct.
You're fighting with Jenkins.
Me and Jenkins are going neck and neck right now.
At least PSG is fighting more bad.
I don't think it's gonna be bad.
I don't think he's dropping those Js.
The answer is out of your fight, Joseph.
Well, we'll see who he's gonna predict for tomorrow,
because we have more playoff action
And now elimination theories on the line first up. It's tundra versus a verse from the cost who you got
They got through these tiebreakers they look pretty good. Yeah, and they don't look that hot today
So I'd go with tundra in this one versus pro still yet to get on
On their hype trains right guy. They it's kind of similar thing for Navi. I would say that's where this bro, but the
Half half a step behind. Okay, I can see that seems realistic next up
We got that boom team versus
You don't get to talk five time let him talk that boom team they got this back to you kesel
No, it's BBD Bobbity, they will win this one.
Because VG, they're already secured.
Jenkins talked about it yesterday, he was right.
He was right.
They made it through the China qualifier,
and so they are secured, but...
They don't ask you.
No, I'm talking about his series.
Bulba is back, first pick storm.
He's gonna be silent, yeah, Bulba is on his feet.
He's gonna silence the haters, pipe down,
get your popcorn, and then Bulba's gonna take the popcorn
and eat it all himself, because Bulba's leaving tomorrow.
But just watch.
We'll see who he predicts tomorrow morning.
You better predict VP after the top guy predicts.
Don't look at those, okay?
Listen to my words.
Do as I say, not as I do.
This guy's faking so hard.
Fake these nuts.
I've got balls in my face.
That's right.
Lock that in.
And our last series, Liquid versus Vici.
No, wait.
That was extreme game.
Vici got playing two series tomorrow.
What was that?
That boom Vici.
That boom Vici.
That's what the graphic said.
That boom Vici.
Yep.
So then we've got Liquid.
Let me just not all check that and I'm he is losing that with how he's doing
It's casual again. They could say who I have the memory of a goldfish. Just trust your brother. This brand trust me
All right, fine liquid extreme. What do you got? That's the liquid W. Oh what actually has been doing?
It's because even when they do good, they somehow find a way to fuck it up
They go to the high ground and it's usually jaws of victory like they even did it cool things
I'm it had like the eggs refresh on Luna everything's cool 25 K lead. Don't matter. It's not enough. They lose
And we go back to the BedBoom team when they were playing against BedBoom team
They also had like 30k gold lead unable to close out the game as well
So I mean this is a team that plays for like 50 minutes
I feel like this is some kind of a meme with them where they can't really close it out the average game time is
45 minutes for everybody else and then for them it's like 50 plus
Literally, that's what it was like two days ago
You really love this team, don't you?
I love that.
You know what I don't like is for this season of Dream League, they didn't choose that one hero.
Maybe like we can say, it's Rauranger, but they're always obsessed with one hero.
It's Sniper, it's Tankardell from the mid lane, back a couple of Dream Leagues before,
then they're obsessed with Juggernaut, and they always find a hero.
This time around, it's Rauranger.
It's Raur, we can call it.
Nice to meet you.
If they want to pick it.
Nice job, Maurice.
Keep it up the cost closest though. Oh
Thank you guys for watching today was a good day of Dota dream league season 29
We'll see you guys tomorrow starting at what time are we starting tomorrow?
It's good. I mean, I believe we're starting at 12
CET so be here or do whatever you want, but be here
It's the fuck, we outweighin' all that energy, step to the ceiling, call for the people screamin'
We're the yeeters of the world, but that's just how the game goes, so we'll all see it when it's stayin' on
But don't let that spike, I think I'll be the one killin' it, go, go, go
I don't, I don't, I don't understand a single, single one of the bullies
People wanna act off of the cool King B, but they've never been runnin' in their energy
Yeah, I'm gonna die, I did it with these fools, I one time, two times, easy, easy
Lord knows it's easy for them, just a real tough, real greasy
Cause mighty, mighty, mighty, I feel, I feel bad, go
My face, my heart, my veins, no doors, ice planes on the floor, so cold
Ain't gonna catch me when the big words, it's in the back seat, and I don't know
Show respect, shut your mouth, sit down, no, you're wrong
I'm looking at the text, we can hear each other inside
I hope we'll understand
You know you'll be more than I
You know you'll be more than I
Go!
I
The head that you wanted to see me
Now along, it's in my lungs
Birds in the trees, what a feeling
When the morning comes
Sending my words while I'm dreaming
By the way, it made me laugh
Blue, blue skies when I'm singing
The one and only
Can I believe that you're my love?
Hold me to the moon, hey
Hold me to the moon
Hold me until I'm gone
Don't let me go, don't let me go
Hold me to the moon, hey
Hold me till I'm gone
Hold me not to forget
But I'm gonna be gone
Gonna be gone
Rest in my thoughts, calling
Cause I'm whole, and it's you
Needless to say, I'm falling
And you don't have a clue
Sun, it's when I'm being mean, but the way you make me laugh
Look through skies when I'm singing, the one I won't cut
Hold me till I'm lonely Hold me till I'm lonely
Hold me until I'm lonely, let me go Don't let me fall, let me go
Don't let me go
I
Yeah
We can't hide now
Oh yeah, we can't hide now
We can turn back time
We're high enough
Man, I'm always thinking high and low
What you need is love and understanding, find a heart whose love is true.
Deep down there's only one companion who's there for you when you need him to be.
Your heart was broken in a thousand pieces
So what faith that you've been through
Is there's a man who's your salvation
Just ask yourself, am I ready for you?
100%
I'm getting on my knees, yeah
Yes and no
That's why I want
I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready
One hundred percent
Take a chance in a new direction
Any face you wanna go
I don't have all the right answers
But one thing I know, I'm so ready for you
One hundred percent
Yeah
100%
I'm ready
100%
Yes I'm ready
100%
Now, I'm gonna go, 100%
100% again
How I used to be was so good for me In my mind all the time
No one I could turn to Now that I can see you're never set before
You came along, made me strong I've waited such a long time
And I just can't believe it's true love I have around the world
Don't want it to stop when you know you've got a good thing
That makes me feel right
Wherever it leads me, you know it's all right
I never thought that this could sweep me up or down
I don't want it to stop when it's feeling as good
Whenever you're around, my heart begins to pound
Oh, I know you'll take it slow, no way to stop this feeling
For every single day, when every door open
In this place, there's a space where I'll be waiting for you
And I just can't believe in this new love I have now
Yeah, I don't want it to stop when you know you've got a good thing
That makes me feel fine
Wherever it leads me, you know it's all right
I never thought that this could sweet me off the ground
I don't want it to stop
No, I don't want it to stop
I don't want it to stop
When it's feeling it's good
Feeling it's good
Feeling it's good
Feeling it's good
This is like the perfect day.
To catch the sun and dance away
On my first ride by my side
They lighten up the darkest night
Another thing, our favorite song
Everybody's singing along
The sun and light makes me smile
My friends are dropping by
I'm walking with a great much pride
This is a good time, a good time, I'm feeling fine
I'm just a kid who's been on a ride, on a ride
Oh, death and death are all you lie
You're not a little like me
I'm underneath the bright and sky
Like you see it in your eyes
The sunlight makes me smile
My friends are dropping by
But I don't know why I will break my stride
It's a good time, I'm feeling fine
The sunlight makes me spike
The winds are dropping fire
No one will break my strike
It's a good time, I'm feeling fine
I think this is the end of the things we've been like
We're the end
And I'm so confused, I'm feeling right
I'm so confused, I'm feeling right
I'm so confused, I'm feeling right
It's just good times, good times, feeling right
I'm so confused, I'm feeling right
I
I'm the warrior, I'm the warrior
Strange man, good day America
You got the home from me
And it's physical
And I try to stop myself
But it's impossible
Guys come along, look at your clothes
And I can't look at you
I've got a feeling that things have left you walking through my life
Camping in the stars, I'll smoke the stage, you guys know I'm not the type
I don't know what you're thinking, but I'm crazy but you're wrong.
The fear has got me caught just handling it.
Nothing can bring me, because I've been waiting for so long.
And you're all I've got.
You got through my night.
There are some things that just feel...