WEBVTT 01:00.000 --> 01:27.440 Dream League Season 29 is brought to you by DHL and Chex. 01:27.440 --> 01:47.440 Very, very good afternoon. I have never sat in a room before. I do not know. Oh dear, hello. Good afternoon. Well, it's very neat. Season 29. You might have noticed that we are experiencing some technical issues. But we obviously still want to make sure you do not miss the Dota 2 action. 01:47.440 --> 01:48.440 Gotta get to the Dota. 01:48.440 --> 01:49.440 Gotta get to the Dota. 01:49.440 --> 01:50.440 Most important thing. 01:50.440 --> 01:54.440 And Paravision vs Liquid, that's a must see. A must what? 01:54.440 --> 02:01.640 Must what the best series it's the best series you could possibly hope for shever. Yeah, we got a cold commentator here with us today 02:04.200 --> 02:06.200 That's how I think you feel 02:06.200 --> 02:11.220 It makes me so happy you really like the bird. I really like the bird. She found this bird on the set today 02:11.220 --> 02:13.520 And if that's 20 euros bird 02:14.240 --> 02:16.240 She offered 02:19.240 --> 02:24.040 Left no, but like in the whole in my whole country. There's like maybe 20 left max 02:24.440 --> 02:26.440 It's a good bird. 02:26.440 --> 02:27.440 It's a good bird. 02:27.440 --> 02:31.200 Uh, you might be thinking like, okay, we're gonna watch Paravision vs Liquid and we're 02:31.200 --> 02:37.120 gonna see some, you know, of the best note-to-action and it's us two with the draft Jenkins that 02:37.120 --> 02:38.120 doesn't sound right. 02:38.120 --> 02:39.120 No offense. 02:39.120 --> 02:40.280 Well, I think we know what we're doing. 02:40.280 --> 02:41.280 Yeah. 02:41.280 --> 02:45.080 We can definitely handle the draft and all the sorts of analysis that needs to be done 02:45.080 --> 02:47.960 for a very important series like this. 02:47.960 --> 02:49.800 But we're not going to. 02:49.800 --> 02:50.800 But we're not going to. 02:50.800 --> 02:51.800 We're not gonna do that. 02:51.800 --> 02:52.800 Don't worry. 02:52.800 --> 02:57.440 Here they are, the egg birds, they're gonna take you through the draft and deploy Power 02:57.440 --> 02:59.800 Vision vs Liquid with Insanity MPS Jank! 03:06.800 --> 03:10.300 Alright, so it's actually a try cast for the draft, we got the bird here as well. 03:10.300 --> 03:13.300 I feel like we should start up bidding more for this bird so Shever can't get it. 03:13.300 --> 03:16.300 Jankers was already at 300, I don't know if I want to go above that. 03:16.300 --> 03:20.800 Alright, so starting price 300 guys, you get this bird could be yours by the end of this draft. 03:20.800 --> 03:23.800 She was giving me this thank guy from the outside of the room. 03:27.800 --> 03:34.800 So, going into this series, I was really interested at what these two teams did really well in group stage one. 03:34.800 --> 03:35.800 Yep. 03:35.800 --> 03:36.800 Right, or group stage in general. 03:36.800 --> 03:38.800 And I was like, when did they lose? 03:38.800 --> 03:40.800 And so I looked at specifically Liquid's losses. 03:40.800 --> 03:46.800 And I noticed that Mikkei on Turret Heroes, specifically Marta and SF, was one in four. 03:46.800 --> 03:47.800 Really? 03:47.800 --> 03:49.800 The rest of his heroes, he was ten in one. 03:49.800 --> 03:56.180 Like on everything else he was winning whether it's like a tiny or a kez or like a farm heavy hero like Luna like anything that was 03:56.760 --> 04:03.660 Literally not a range turret. He was 10 and one that's really interesting because I think like historically turret ranged carries are like 04:03.660 --> 04:07.020 Mickey's goatee. Yeah, like the TAs and those are the ones that he does the best on yeah 04:07.100 --> 04:09.480 And I thought that was interesting because I looked at liquids drop 04:09.480 --> 04:15.080 Obviously, it's maybe a little bit skewed because they lost to the good teams. They lost to team spirit and thug 04:15.080 --> 04:21.760 I believe so but when I looked at his games the problem that I saw in their drafts was that he was their sole source of damage 04:21.760 --> 04:24.720 Like every day they had like an underlord offline a tree and five 04:24.720 --> 04:29.920 You know like a rubik for very low damage high utility. So when I'm like going to this game 04:30.080 --> 04:34.120 I'm curious like his party vision kind of has cheesed a few drafts 04:34.120 --> 04:36.320 They had like a huskar four position 04:36.320 --> 04:39.800 They have like they get they have drafts that only they get away with because of nine class 04:39.800 --> 04:46.040 So when I'm good, did they ban the house car? Okay, they banned the house car because I was like this is why they picked the house car previously 04:46.660 --> 04:50.260 Most crazy doesn't get affected by the cogs. What do you think about this clock work hero? 04:50.260 --> 04:54.920 I mean it's so interesting. I think clock the best part about clock is that he enables thirds 04:54.920 --> 04:58.520 No, I think when I looked at the tournament so far. That's the thing that stood out to me 04:58.520 --> 05:02.020 It's like if you get clock suddenly all the range carries are allowed 05:02.260 --> 05:05.980 If you don't get clock all your range carries have like kind of awkward pairings 05:05.980 --> 05:11.160 So you're gonna end up paying it up with some Lich or some Phoenix which is like it's fine. It's just not ideal 05:11.160 --> 05:15.180 What about something like Tusk? I feel like that hero's getting picked but mainly it's four maybe. I don't know 05:15.180 --> 05:18.180 I'm not super it doesn't feel like one of those times where you pick Tusk 05:18.180 --> 05:22.200 And it's just like it feels like the strongest hero in the entire early game gets to run around and do whatever he wants 05:22.200 --> 05:27.700 And he just like cooks everything. Yeah, and I think he has kind of bad matchups in the fives like Phoenix and Lich are both pretty decent 05:27.700 --> 05:31.100 Against them. So I don't feel very sold. Maybe the hero's okay 05:31.100 --> 05:35.820 But it doesn't strike me as like a you know at TI when Boxie just plays Tusk 20 games in a row 05:35.820 --> 05:40.340 Yeah, it doesn't feel like that. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I mean I like because I know in tier one Dota 05:40.340 --> 05:45.120 I've learned a lot from like talking to blitz and people like yourself. What? Yeah, I mean crazy 05:45.120 --> 05:47.980 He learned from you. So I'm trying to try to compliment here, but 05:49.740 --> 05:54.980 But I've learned that a lot of like pro drafting is like you pick a rubik so that the enemy can't pick underlord 05:54.980 --> 05:57.580 For instance, like there's a lot of deny picking but I think it's interesting 05:57.580 --> 05:59.860 I never really thought about the fact that like in this current meta clockwork 06:00.260 --> 06:04.420 Enables a certain type of archetype of carry that you could not otherwise. Yeah 06:04.420 --> 06:07.900 So that's probably why he's even more valuable than he already is. I mean the hero's good. 06:07.900 --> 06:13.180 Exactly, like that adds to the value. Exactly, exactly. And I think that's like it goes for a lot of heroes where like 06:13.980 --> 06:15.420 there's some 06:15.420 --> 06:19.540 some natural pairings where heroes will do better when they're paired up with this or that and 06:20.100 --> 06:23.540 You ideally in your first three picks want to have as many options as possible 06:23.900 --> 06:29.740 That's why like when you pick your two supports and whatever your third core is ideally these will match up with a lot of things 06:29.900 --> 06:33.420 So when you get to the later picks in your draft you don't have like holes they have to plug 06:33.420 --> 06:38.480 Yeah, you have the ability to just counterpick whatever the enemy mid laner is without feeling like oh, no 06:38.480 --> 06:42.840 We don't have any catch now. Yeah, we don't have any objective taking right utility. Yeah 06:43.480 --> 06:46.400 So that that's like usually when you're drafting 06:46.400 --> 06:51.620 They're first three picks you kind of want to make sure that you build a solid base so that you can build up from it 06:51.840 --> 06:57.000 Is that why like I've always thought this confirmed kind of correct or deny here that 06:57.680 --> 07:00.940 Beastmaster reason why he's so highly sought in competitive Dota 07:00.940 --> 07:06.340 Ignoring the fact that he's always just kind of a strong hero, but he does everything. He does objectives. He does stuns 07:06.780 --> 07:13.100 He does, you know wave clear farming, you know, he I feel like he offers so much to like the game plan 07:13.780 --> 07:18.060 That you need to have mm-hmm. I mean it is absolutely strengths of beast 07:18.060 --> 07:20.300 I think the thing that 07:20.300 --> 07:23.900 Like when you think of a hero people usually think about a hero and it's perfect state 07:23.900 --> 07:28.100 Like if Beastmaster gets everything that he wants then he pushes then he deals damage 07:28.100 --> 07:31.420 He's so low kills he like does everything right towers Roche 07:31.700 --> 07:37.220 But what people kind of tend to forget is what is the hero actually gonna provide you? 07:37.220 --> 07:40.500 Well, can you rely on him to provide you because that means like if you're picking it here? 07:40.500 --> 07:44.740 He's gonna get counterpicked. Yeah, there's a chance of liquid as I like screwed our draft 07:44.740 --> 07:46.060 If we don't want draft integrity 07:46.060 --> 07:51.060 We just want to screw over your beast master and then what does he still get out of that and beast is one of those heroes 07:51.060 --> 07:55.180 That is very stable like the the variance is pretty low 07:55.180 --> 08:02.180 He can farm really fast, so if you don't continuously screw over this hero, he'll always recover his game if it's bad. 08:02.180 --> 08:06.180 That's the reason why I think he's been a staple of the pro safe for such a long time. 08:06.180 --> 08:08.180 He has to put a lot of effort into slowing this hero down. 08:08.180 --> 08:09.180 That makes sense. 08:09.180 --> 08:13.180 And it's mainly related to how fast a hero farms and how fast a hero recovers. 08:13.180 --> 08:18.180 And usually heroes that recover faster, you need to put more effort into shutting down and continuously shutting down. 08:18.180 --> 08:24.960 Yeah, I think the reliability like various factors is also something that you see a lot in these early game or early draft picks. 08:24.960 --> 08:33.800 I mean, I think Kez is a carry. Yeah. He also technically does everything like silence stun, mobility, invis, wave clear. 08:33.800 --> 08:42.480 But I also think that with Kez, because of his laning stage being so reliable that he is going to be able to do his thing in almost like every single game. 08:42.480 --> 08:51.560 Like I see a Tidehunter who's like a very common counter pick to Kez because of like the high damage block and the dispel against the damage over time from Kez's third spell or 08:52.200 --> 08:54.440 version 2 of the third spell, but 08:54.960 --> 09:01.040 Like at the same time, it's not like Kez ends up in a rough game. It's just something that can lane against Kez 09:01.040 --> 09:03.040 That's like how it feels at least when I see the drums 09:03.360 --> 09:07.800 I mean for me, for me Kez is the best when you're snowballing and you're playing it from ahead 09:07.800 --> 09:11.520 Which you could say about any hero, but I feel like Beastmaster to me is more of like a 09:11.520 --> 09:15.400 It's good if you're snowballing, but it's also completely fine if you're not 09:15.400 --> 09:19.000 You know, you can play it like Nada get screwed over in the lane and go jungle for 10 minutes 09:19.000 --> 09:19.920 And you're gonna be fine 09:19.920 --> 09:24.160 Whereas with Kes I feel like ideally Kes's gameplay looks like you have a winning mid matchup 09:24.160 --> 09:28.280 You have a winning safe lane and you connect these three heroes and you start taking space on the enemy side of the map 09:28.280 --> 09:30.440 And you abuse the fact that you're so strong in the early game 09:30.440 --> 09:33.480 Yeah, you don't really want to play like a trade 50-50 game 09:33.680 --> 09:40.680 I've actually said that for me Kes is like a combination of Slark and PA as like a hero because he obviously has a lot of 09:40.680 --> 09:45.220 physical burst like PA and mobility in that sense but then I think he plays 09:45.220 --> 09:48.580 the game like Slark where you get that first or second item and you run it 09:48.580 --> 09:52.380 people yeah so like he does have I think what makes him like a better Slark 09:52.380 --> 09:58.020 is that you wave clear very easily so you don't have to spend time basically on 09:58.020 --> 10:00.460 the maintenance of the map you can actually just go kill heroes and run 10:00.460 --> 10:03.380 at them consistently and like a big thing is that your wave clear isn't also 10:03.380 --> 10:07.700 your escape ability true because that's a big part of this part because you have 10:07.700 --> 10:08.700 to kind of like... 10:08.700 --> 10:09.700 Packed in vision? 10:09.700 --> 10:10.700 Yeah. 10:10.700 --> 10:11.700 Oh, let's stun that guy now. 10:11.700 --> 10:12.700 Right. 10:12.700 --> 10:13.700 Which doctor though? 10:13.700 --> 10:14.700 That's a pick I was not expecting. 10:14.700 --> 10:16.700 It's a classic good hero against Tide, right? 10:16.700 --> 10:21.700 It's one of the few spells that is on the Spellable, so you can put Maldic on someone and just like 10:21.700 --> 10:24.700 put that damage on it and it will still deal damage to Tide. 10:24.700 --> 10:27.700 And it gives you a way to kill him in the game. 10:27.700 --> 10:31.700 Also, we didn't really mention it, but Beastmaster against Clockwork is obviously very good because 10:31.700 --> 10:35.700 you have the Boars that kill the Cogs, so you're hard to go on. 10:35.700 --> 10:41.100 Also, any sort of melee support does not like playing against beasts because you get slowed by the doors a lot, 10:41.100 --> 10:44.820 so it doesn't feel good to run at the Beastmaster. 10:46.500 --> 10:51.100 Yeah, usually when I see a Nix 4 position I'm always concerned about the laning phase. 10:51.100 --> 10:54.700 I just remember watching 9-class solo kill a silencer. 10:54.700 --> 10:59.300 I'm trying to remember what game this was, but it's literally a level 1 Nix solo killing, 10:59.300 --> 11:00.900 and he absolutely destroyed that. 11:00.900 --> 11:04.300 I think it was Navi that he did that to, who was 6-1. 11:04.300 --> 11:10.500 Like it was a good team in the tournament and so I'm gonna keep an eye on he he does some really cool moves like creep dragging and 11:10.720 --> 11:13.660 Taking he knows his limits better than most. Yeah 11:13.660 --> 11:18.900 I feel like this whole laning phase weakness thing of next also is like relevant for everybody except my class 11:18.900 --> 11:20.580 Yeah, yeah, as soon as it's my class 11:20.580 --> 11:25.200 I don't even think about it because I feel like a lot of the times like he's gonna put himself on those heroes that are 11:25.200 --> 11:27.200 We can lane but he really knows how to make it 11:27.580 --> 11:31.220 Happen I also feel like notice in that regard has been a really good addition to their team 11:31.220 --> 11:35.980 He reminds me a bit more of DM where like I felt like he knows how to play these hard matchups 11:35.980 --> 11:39.740 And we had him on an interview as well where he mentioned like yeah, I don't really mind like 11:39.860 --> 11:42.780 It's like I was leaving me alone all the time in the index already. So 11:43.380 --> 11:46.120 Yeah, I think you absolutely need to play 11:46.120 --> 11:51.020 I think that's part of why they've been struggling with their off-laner like they've rotated off-laners two or three times this year 11:51.180 --> 11:56.180 And I do think it's it seems like a really good fit so far. Yeah stylistically. I agree 11:56.860 --> 12:00.680 But they do pick Storm into Nick's I think it's interesting because for a while I didn't 12:01.220 --> 12:05.960 I think that Storm was like that guy against Nix, but Nix got his mana burn back. 12:05.960 --> 12:12.460 Like, where if you hit somebody out of Vendetta into an impale and a mind flare, like, Storm's gonna lose like half his mana. 12:12.460 --> 12:12.960 Yeah. 12:12.960 --> 12:19.620 So, I think that's much more worth considering, given the 7.41 version of Nix. 12:19.620 --> 12:21.620 I'm curious to see how it plays out here. 12:23.120 --> 12:28.720 Another interesting thing about these two teams is, I think Liquid is a team that generally wins their safe lane. 12:28.720 --> 12:33.200 like Mika and Pofu are very strong laners and they tend to always do well in their safe lane. 12:33.200 --> 12:36.800 Whereas like, Parry is a team that doesn't really contest the safe lane, right? They will play it 12:36.800 --> 12:42.000 kind of safe. So that advantage from Liquid is nullified of it, unless they're able to snowball 12:42.000 --> 12:46.080 that into like a massive victory. But instead what Parry does is they pressure mid a lot. 12:46.080 --> 12:51.760 And I think Liquid is probably, when they look the worst is when Nisha's games are horrendous. 12:51.760 --> 12:54.800 When people just like keep running out of mid, they don't let him do his thing, they don't let him 12:54.800 --> 13:01.060 him get online. So I'm curious to see how these two things play out and whether Mica 13:01.060 --> 13:04.720 and Boxy or Mica and Pofu, whoever's on the mid lane, manage to absolutely shut down 13:04.720 --> 13:09.320 the Beastmaster and offer to force the game to happen away from mid, or if Pahri is going 13:09.320 --> 13:13.000 to be able to set the pace of the game and have it happen around mid lane and have Nix 13:13.000 --> 13:15.000 be there and do all these destructive moves. 13:15.000 --> 13:18.040 So it's literally, you're thinking it's kind of a game of which team can snowball the 13:18.040 --> 13:23.080 pressure either liquid on their own safe lane or Pahri vision on the mid lane. That's kind 13:23.080 --> 13:26.120 of like a pendulum swing of like for sure if you force their attention there 13:26.120 --> 13:28.040 they're not going to be able to do what they want I think that's like the 13:28.040 --> 13:31.040 objective for the two teams in the game right I think like if you look at the 13:31.040 --> 13:33.960 tools that they could house a clockwork is very good at chasing this mix 13:33.960 --> 13:36.520 around right so very likely they're gonna try to match up the clockwork into 13:36.520 --> 13:39.880 the mix I think to make sure that my class can't do this thing yeah if he 13:39.880 --> 13:44.440 tries to go for waves you can very hard to do that over yeah exactly yeah and if 13:44.440 --> 13:49.240 he looks to rotate mid he can match that too so what I see is like I see pretty 13:49.240 --> 13:52.960 good tools from liquid side to actually like accomplish their goals I feel like 13:52.960 --> 13:58.100 They have a stronger safe lane and they have ways to stop the nicks from running mid and like messing with that whole thing 13:58.100 --> 14:03.560 I also looked at their history and funnily enough this year. I think liquid is won almost every single time they've matched up 14:03.680 --> 14:06.200 Really, but this is pre-noticed. Okay. Okay 14:07.920 --> 14:10.760 That's it's so funny how certain teams just have like 14:11.840 --> 14:16.380 stylistic mismatches or like one team favors the like there's like rock-paper-scissors that kind of goes on 14:16.380 --> 14:19.700 Yeah at the highest level. I mean, what are we looking at for? 14:19.700 --> 14:24.340 No one's last hero here. I mean, I feel like in last patch it would have just been like a snap big quap 14:24.340 --> 14:27.980 It's like but right now I feel like that hero is really falling off 14:28.460 --> 14:33.220 This is an old school answer to start like old Chinese teams used to play a lot of lessons this time 14:33.380 --> 14:36.820 Back then you would go use and you just use them stonem and just kill them with edict 14:38.820 --> 14:43.400 What do you what do you think the idea behind let's drag this time specifically is I do think Lesha similar to 14:43.400 --> 14:46.740 Kez where you mentioned like you win the early game and then you run at people 14:46.740 --> 14:51.660 Yeah, and so I think they are very all-in on this like idea of pacing the game 14:51.660 --> 14:57.100 And that's that's also the way liquid likes to play. So do you think who do you think has like the upper edge on like 14:57.700 --> 15:00.860 Who's gonna come out on top 10 15 minutes? I think it's gonna pick up pretty quick 15:00.860 --> 15:04.780 I mean, I think it really comes down to how the how this whole like mid lane 15:04.780 --> 15:08.100 I think mid lane is gonna be the name of this game right if flesh falls behind 15:08.100 --> 15:10.780 He's just gonna buy like butter if he doesn't if he's playing from ahead 15:10.780 --> 15:16.260 He kills everybody and let's just kind of that that hero right when the hero comes online and he gets to dominate the game 15:16.260 --> 15:21.560 He is the centerpiece of every single game and if he doesn't he just buys a quarter and then the game is usually pretty easy 15:21.720 --> 15:23.920 But I feel like party they have nice tools 15:23.920 --> 15:29.840 I feel like this Kaz blush beast that they all have games and they can come together. It's gonna be a struggle for liquid but 15:30.600 --> 15:33.080 We'll see how there's only one way to really find out right? 15:33.080 --> 15:38.940 Yeah, we've got two people are gonna walk us through it when it happens you guys you guys can they see them over there 15:38.940 --> 15:40.940 Oh, there's far taking care of it 15:40.940 --> 15:47.940 But we'll leave you guys in game one of Team Liquid vs. Paravision with our boys Fogged and OD Pixel. 15:56.940 --> 15:59.940 We were meaning about which fountain of payment they picked up. 15:59.940 --> 16:00.940 We literally were meaning. 16:00.940 --> 16:01.940 Alive! 16:03.940 --> 16:05.940 Oh, there we go, there we go! 16:05.940 --> 16:06.940 Let's see. 16:06.940 --> 16:08.940 What do we get? 16:08.940 --> 16:13.920 I don't know dude doctor. Is this your one of pro game? What is last time this year one of pro game? 16:14.700 --> 16:18.940 Let's find it out. Can you check for me? How do I find out that expert here? 16:18.940 --> 16:23.660 Let me check the last tournament that was on right last time. It was what blackie. Yeah, was it played in walkie? 16:26.540 --> 16:32.180 So I've played it. I love you. I there's right here. There's definitely some fun things to look at 16:32.180 --> 16:37.860 I think for paravision. I agree with what in senior saying I want to see them have a very good start and entrance to this game 16:37.860 --> 16:40.800 I'm worried if they don't though, like if they don't have a good entrance to this game 16:40.800 --> 16:45.700 I'm super concerned about their draft because it seems much more volatile while liquids is just 16:46.100 --> 16:50.020 You can see the approach what they're going for right? It's very clean. It's kind of standard 16:50.100 --> 16:53.900 So let's see if Paravision can cause this type of chaos and if they can snowball with the Lash 16:55.180 --> 16:59.380 I'm curious to see what we're gonna get. Well the game is on so hopefully we're gonna be able to jump into the game 16:59.380 --> 17:01.380 Ladies and gentlemen game one here of 17:01.740 --> 17:03.740 Liquid versus Paravision 17:07.860 --> 17:10.820 yeah we were. Was there a witch doctor? I don't think there was a witch doctor right? 17:10.820 --> 17:18.080 I'm pretty sure. I'm zoned out. I'm zoned and out. Witch doctor indeed that was unpicked at the last land 17:18.740 --> 17:23.020 and you can confirm here it's not been picked at all or is it? 17:25.520 --> 17:27.520 Oh there it is. Dreaming season twenty-nine. 17:28.760 --> 17:32.840 Look at the heroes. Witch doctor. 17:32.840 --> 17:37.040 Indeed unpicked here. So, yes. Nobody's playing in the game. 17:37.040 --> 17:39.040 Well, there's reason, so let's talk about the reason, right? 17:39.040 --> 17:45.040 Well, apart from me and the good people watching on, we play this here, but these professionals, they don't do it! 17:46.040 --> 17:47.040 Yeah, that's gonna be pretty interesting. 17:47.040 --> 17:47.540 Yeah. 17:47.540 --> 17:49.040 So, I mean, the reasoning, obviously, right? 17:49.040 --> 17:50.040 They want to try to pressure the tide. 17:50.040 --> 17:54.040 Insane dot damage, this has always been, I mean, I want to say, always has been a pick versus tide hunter, 17:54.040 --> 17:57.040 but not something you really want to play too much in pro, but people have tried it! 17:57.040 --> 18:00.040 Let's see if they can't snowball and get some type of kills with it. 18:00.040 --> 18:02.040 It's a lot of damage they can't provide. 18:02.040 --> 18:05.040 I just think this Wyburn can kind of stop the aggression pretty hard with cold embrace. 18:05.040 --> 18:07.200 Cold Embraced, it's pretty fantastic versus Validus. 18:07.200 --> 18:08.200 Sure. 18:08.200 --> 18:09.200 Especially early game. 18:09.200 --> 18:13.400 Sure, later on, perhaps not in the best type of way, but early, they go on you and you 18:13.400 --> 18:14.400 just... 18:14.400 --> 18:15.400 Cold Embraced. 18:15.400 --> 18:19.960 It is, but once you get your blink ax on... 18:19.960 --> 18:20.960 Okay, shut the hell up. 18:20.960 --> 18:21.960 Then it's just a really... 18:21.960 --> 18:25.960 If the death wall is hitting the guy in the cold embrace, then it's just like this permanent 18:25.960 --> 18:28.080 target that's bouncing to everyone else. 18:28.080 --> 18:29.080 I'm talking about lane. 18:29.080 --> 18:30.080 So you're not... 18:30.080 --> 18:31.080 Laning phase, you know. 18:31.080 --> 18:32.080 Either way, they're not doing that lane... 18:32.080 --> 18:33.080 They're having Boxy in the lane. 18:33.080 --> 18:37.360 So I actually thought they were going to put the talkwork versus the Nix's assassin to stop him from pulling it. 18:37.360 --> 18:41.880 But now they're actually putting the Wyvern in this safe lane with the Windranger. 18:41.880 --> 18:45.480 So Boots on Nix, he could go for poles, and it's actually Boots on Tofu, 18:45.480 --> 18:49.480 which reactives to the 9-class that he's taken advantage of when he was playing versus that Silencio the other day. 18:49.480 --> 18:50.480 He killed him. 18:50.480 --> 18:56.080 So we'll see if he can do similar in this case. It does feel a bit harder, but he's going to get the pull waves. 18:56.080 --> 18:59.080 This Nix's assassin is going to be annoying, right? 18:59.080 --> 19:02.880 We released our 9-class of Nix's assassin the other day, and it was pretty crazy. 19:02.880 --> 19:05.960 Yep, and I really thought they were going to put the clock down here to prevent this, right? 19:05.960 --> 19:09.460 Because you just bought the boots and you can actually go battery-assault if you want to chase them out, 19:09.460 --> 19:12.060 but usually you just go cogs and stuff, and but... 19:12.680 --> 19:16.680 No, I mean, both do pretty good job. We are seeing Tofu getting some very good trades, and he might just kill him. 19:17.520 --> 19:18.180 He asked. 19:18.180 --> 19:18.680 Alright. 19:18.680 --> 19:19.380 He's going to get this. 19:19.380 --> 19:19.880 He's got it. 19:19.880 --> 19:20.580 Well, there we go. 19:20.580 --> 19:21.680 That's why they have it this way around. 19:21.680 --> 19:22.180 There you go. 19:22.180 --> 19:23.380 There you go. You can just kill him. 19:23.380 --> 19:23.880 Big break. 19:23.880 --> 19:27.980 I don't have to stop him necessarily getting the successful creep drag if you just kill him. 19:27.980 --> 19:29.780 And here we go. You see why it's the clock, right? 19:29.780 --> 19:31.980 They're like, oh, then we don't lane versus the Maladict. 19:31.980 --> 19:37.340 We just pulled away, but now the power of which Doctor really is about valediction early, and if they don't let him use it 19:37.820 --> 19:39.820 Absolutely see that reason. Okay, cool 19:40.020 --> 19:43.180 That tofu's boots absolutely working out that extra chase on the nine-class 19:43.180 --> 19:47.220 I don't think he expected to actually be chased out like that. No, absolutely. No, that was a big news 19:48.060 --> 19:49.900 Just down off the line 19:49.900 --> 19:54.100 And having the wind ranger to just a little assist of a power shot to on the side to be able to 19:54.580 --> 19:58.700 Annoy nine classes. Well, let's see what this nix is gonna be able to do sharing the mid game 19:58.700 --> 20:02.120 I was looking does still have the break on vendetta so versus the titaner 20:02.120 --> 20:05.580 They will have that perhaps to go for some type of kills in full focus fire 20:06.620 --> 20:11.140 Now what would you make of the mid matchup? So there's less coming in as you saw what aina was saying 20:11.900 --> 20:17.740 Old school kind of way to deal with laying against the storm good pressure hero inverse of the storm 20:17.820 --> 20:22.140 Good versus cold embrace good versus a good amount of things here, but a risk, right? 20:22.140 --> 20:26.160 That's why I was saying I feel like they've gone for a bit of a volatile lineup on the side of paravis 20:26.160 --> 20:28.160 Can't be quite risky. 20:30.160 --> 20:32.160 I'm just going to set up on the bomb lane. 20:33.160 --> 20:35.160 Looking pretty good for Micke. He's got free farm. 20:35.160 --> 20:36.160 Joan. 20:37.160 --> 20:40.160 Mid lane, Nisha is doing pretty good so far here in the matchup. 20:41.160 --> 20:44.160 Lane just keeps getting pushed into him. Always will be able to farm here. 20:49.160 --> 20:51.160 And we always have to mention, right, Clockwork did make it through. 20:51.160 --> 20:55.160 So, besides everything that we've all been talking about, and all this clock is in the game, 20:55.160 --> 21:01.160 And this hero, honestly, I think this might be the most broken thing I've ever seen in Dota, just because he can control so much on his own. 21:01.160 --> 21:10.160 I feel like you can ruin one lane, you go to the next one when you have like level 2 cogs, you ruin them as well too with a couple bounces, so always going to be one to look at. 21:10.160 --> 21:14.160 David's doing very well there, I think 60, 60 something percent. 21:14.160 --> 21:16.160 Wind right here at Dream League. 21:16.160 --> 21:24.160 As a first pick too, that's the thing, right? It's a first pick clockwork and it has an absurd wind rate, so tell us a tale. 21:25.160 --> 21:31.360 Voxy probably one of the best right on the old clock. Yep. So very obnoxious. Let him have in it 21:31.920 --> 21:35.120 Here in this first game one come back to buy paravision 21:38.840 --> 21:43.800 And aston this matchup as they pulled the wave he's fine versus a cast right you can train pretty 21:43.800 --> 21:47.680 Affractively because you have level two crack and shell it'll dispel the thought damage that comes out at least from him 21:48.120 --> 21:51.280 If he steps up too far though, he does get hit from like a level two maledict 21:51.280 --> 21:55.760 He absolutely can't die on Ace, so it does have to be cautious of his positioning at least early here. 21:55.760 --> 21:57.760 But right now, the Colossal is still level 1 melodic. 21:59.680 --> 22:00.480 They're gonna try. 22:00.480 --> 22:00.980 Mid. 22:00.980 --> 22:05.280 Gank comes in, 9 class, having to get the wraparound, help set up for them to take down Nisha. 22:06.880 --> 22:08.880 Probably just what he has to do on the next, right? 22:08.880 --> 22:11.880 Stop playing the lane bottom, look for these type of nice rotations. 22:11.880 --> 22:12.880 And a good one there. 22:12.880 --> 22:15.380 Shutting down Storm is probably the best move he can do in the early game. 22:18.380 --> 22:20.880 And now they tried for Ace, but the melodic did nothing, so... 22:21.280 --> 22:28.280 Notice we'll just have to deal with this lane. As long as he doesn't die down here, it's pretty okay for him. 22:28.280 --> 22:32.280 Obviously not great as a Beastmaster have timings delayed. That's the one thing that is concerning as well too. 22:32.280 --> 22:37.280 Even though Nightclust is making nice moves, kills the storm which is fantastic, doing some bounty rune stuff. 22:37.280 --> 22:41.280 Beastmaster does not like to have his timings delayed too much, especially if you're going these dominators. 22:41.280 --> 22:45.280 Can't start to just give up a lot of gold here. 22:45.280 --> 22:47.280 Thanks for your week. 22:47.280 --> 22:50.880 I'm lost, I didn't get hit by a pretty hefty power shot. 22:50.880 --> 22:51.880 That was a nice one. 22:51.880 --> 22:55.480 And his level 2 on the Arctic burn, there's a flood grenade. 22:55.480 --> 22:56.480 He's dead. 22:56.480 --> 22:57.480 Yeah. 22:57.480 --> 22:58.480 No way out of this one. 22:58.480 --> 23:02.520 Tofu again showing how well he can deal with his next assassin here with his Wyvern 23:02.520 --> 23:03.520 pick. 23:03.520 --> 23:04.520 Looking very good. 23:04.520 --> 23:05.920 And this hero is pretty insane, let's be honest. 23:05.920 --> 23:10.240 The rocket as well of course coming in, but Wyvern, honestly loving this hero right now. 23:10.240 --> 23:14.640 I want to see much more of it. 23:14.640 --> 23:15.640 Two to one. 23:15.640 --> 23:24.640 So, lane start, and yeah, notice this has a jungle. So, Mika will have an absolute free lane, and Topu can start making rotations as well, so Mika's first nobody. 23:24.640 --> 23:33.640 So, we'll see what the movement's gonna be from the Wyvern. As we do see 9-class, he is looking to stalk and shut down Nisha, prevent him from getting that level 6 early on here. 23:33.640 --> 23:35.640 Might be able to find him. 23:35.640 --> 23:37.640 I should be able to mess with him. 23:37.640 --> 23:43.640 It's a little, looks like he's not gonna be quite quick enough to head to Misha there, but I mean, Nisha's coming back up towards the lane. 23:43.640 --> 23:46.580 They already went for the tower pressure. So a nice little play from no one 23:46.580 --> 23:49.300 He isolated the tower with the edict while they're going for this 23:51.660 --> 23:57.780 Gatsman hit so Nisha knows that this someone waiting behind him. He's about to be a ESX already now too, so should be safe 24:00.740 --> 24:05.660 And do I have to mention the more things about the witch doctor, right? Witch doctor versus storm is 24:06.280 --> 24:11.260 Pretty atrocious to play the witch doctor in the game. You have no way to really disable him whatsoever. Toku 24:11.260 --> 24:23.260 I'm not going to help out, but the numbers are favoring Paravision. They're able to run straight out of Wart's trove through. They'll take him out, and Anisha, low on the matter, and we'll get Maladix and Angkast will be able to zip away. 24:23.260 --> 24:30.260 Has the fairy fire, but it's still taking pretty strong on him. He's going to have to dodge the next one, then it'll be fine. 24:30.260 --> 24:40.260 And he does not! Ooh, he doesn't dodge it! Oh! I mean, that's the lad that's not played against much Witchdoctor, and I don't blame him, because as you said, nobody's picking it against him. 24:40.260 --> 24:41.080 Nothing. 24:41.080 --> 24:45.700 I like how I'm just saying, it's like playing Witch Doctor first. 24:45.700 --> 24:49.340 If playing Witch Doctor first storm is pretty sad in most situations, but he does not get 24:49.340 --> 24:51.180 the tick on some fair. 24:51.180 --> 24:52.680 Nice play, paravisions. 24:52.680 --> 24:54.380 Good rotations towards the mid lane. 24:54.380 --> 24:56.860 As Insane was saying, enable no one in this game. 24:56.860 --> 25:01.540 It's going to be the name of the game. 25:01.540 --> 25:07.300 Solid stuff. 25:07.300 --> 25:09.300 I'm so happy we actually get to see the witch doctor. 25:11.500 --> 25:17.300 Sure many people are as we have been seeing quite a lot of the same heroes in a lot of games, so it's nice to have some breath of fresh air. 25:17.300 --> 25:19.300 Yeah, especially in the support position, right? 25:19.300 --> 25:21.300 It's the same five heroes. 25:21.300 --> 25:23.300 It's not a game. 25:23.300 --> 25:25.300 Past Focus Fire are already online. 25:25.300 --> 25:26.300 Okay, good. 25:26.300 --> 25:27.300 Oh, they got the shrine! 25:27.300 --> 25:28.300 Yeah. 25:28.300 --> 25:29.300 Notice they actually got it. 25:29.300 --> 25:33.300 So, Liquid, they won't be able to steal that wave from them, and they're gonna lose tofu here. 25:33.300 --> 25:35.300 Power shot does come through. 25:35.300 --> 25:38.880 Boxy watching from the side there, can't really get any closer. 25:38.880 --> 25:41.880 And Boxy, can he actually get himself out of this? 25:41.880 --> 25:44.680 He gets caught from too many stuns, he's in a bit of a dangerous spot. 25:46.300 --> 25:47.300 It takes it the long way. 25:47.300 --> 25:49.600 Yeah, looks like Nanklas isn't going to chase with no one, so... 25:51.300 --> 25:52.800 Oh, he's heading back over now, but... 25:52.800 --> 25:54.000 It's fine, Nanklas is already... 25:55.000 --> 25:56.100 It's very disruptive. 25:56.700 --> 25:57.900 And yeah, they got the shrine! 25:57.900 --> 26:00.900 So they were able to stay inside of it, I don't think the Liquid Heroes got in in time, 26:00.900 --> 26:04.200 either way, I don't think they can get in anyway, because of the rotation from no one. 26:04.200 --> 26:06.740 Now I'm having a very good opening to this game 2-0 and 2 26:10.680 --> 26:14.600 He's queuing up that blink dagger very strong this game to get on top of the wind ranger in the tide 26:15.920 --> 26:17.680 Nisha 26:17.680 --> 26:19.680 Ducal is trying with the dodges good 26:19.680 --> 26:23.200 Well off the road since he tanks headed over Nisha's got to be careful now 26:23.840 --> 26:25.520 Cup of the silence 26:25.520 --> 26:27.600 Wants to try and kill Ducal, I mean at the moment 26:27.600 --> 26:31.360 He just wants to get out of there out of manner and pretty much out of HP Nisha has to back off 26:31.360 --> 26:33.040 Alright, Tukkala's just playing that really nice. 26:33.040 --> 26:35.880 Into the Roche pit, gets the cast bounce, uses the fog. 26:36.760 --> 26:38.640 That was actually quite beautiful, and the power root... 26:39.000 --> 26:39.840 We'll get denied. 26:44.000 --> 26:45.480 Ooh! The power shot! 26:45.480 --> 26:47.120 What a shot there for Mikkei! 26:47.120 --> 26:47.880 And the cogs! 26:48.360 --> 26:49.400 Role will come out! 26:49.680 --> 26:52.680 I mean, that was very close to nearly being able to take out no one as well there. 26:52.680 --> 26:56.200 So, Nautilus at least came out with the ball to stop Mikkei from getting the chance to kill the ledge. 26:56.560 --> 26:59.400 Turbos getting focused by Nautis and 9 class. 26:59.400 --> 27:00.280 Mikkei's cleaning up. 27:00.280 --> 27:06.140 He's bringing those damn pretty low shackle shots back up get the kill and with the setup from Nisha 27:06.140 --> 27:08.140 He might just get nine class as well 27:08.440 --> 27:14.460 Into the pit with the stun. He got him. Oh my god. I'm glad. Okay. Mckay did not 27:14.620 --> 27:18.360 He was not expecting that and he did not respect the fact that that could happen 27:18.360 --> 27:22.560 He ends up dying there and nine class pretty happy with that cleanup doesn't matter that he dies at the end 27:22.560 --> 27:25.860 They got a shot done. I mean make a show of that Gary get some good cleanup kills 27:25.860 --> 27:30.140 But Paravision is doing exactly kind of what I wanted them to do is cause and chaos finding these crazy kills 27:30.140 --> 27:37.140 that are probably not anticipated. It's a level 6 nyx with 1400 gold. These kills actually 27:37.140 --> 27:45.540 were astronomical crazy. This blink dagger timing on 9 classes. This ain't just a crazy 27:45.540 --> 27:51.580 blink dagger timing on a nyx assassin. Crazy blink dagger timing on a 9 class nyx assassin. 27:51.580 --> 27:56.820 You get this man some tools to play early. He is going to be an incredible nuisance. 27:56.820 --> 28:02.220 You can do a lot of tricky plays too with this blink besides this blink normal stuff. 28:02.220 --> 28:04.900 We'll have to wait for a second as he might just go down here. 28:04.900 --> 28:08.660 They should be able to get him here, go through, find himself a bit of a nasty surprise. 28:08.660 --> 28:09.660 Headed up between gate. 28:09.660 --> 28:13.020 So he can blink, vendetta, hit the tide, and then they can focus. 28:13.020 --> 28:15.820 So he doesn't have to vendetta and walk up to melee to break him. 28:15.820 --> 28:19.420 So can potentially have some really good moves if he's able to get this at this fast pace. 28:19.420 --> 28:21.820 But does get killed, gets slowed down. 28:21.820 --> 28:28.340 But the nine class nicks making some really nice moves and no one they still continue to be pretty nicely enabled 28:28.340 --> 28:30.340 He did not die before it was close 28:31.620 --> 28:38.140 Yeah, coming in close for that roar to control Nick a couple of shots away from taking down the lash 28:38.580 --> 28:43.540 There's something about Mickey win ranger though every time that we see it compared to everybody else is just looks nice 28:43.540 --> 28:46.900 They did I was gonna do because we were talking about this as well early on win ranger 28:46.900 --> 28:49.320 We kind of felt a little met on right now 28:49.320 --> 28:55.400 But Mickey he would be the one that you say can absolutely make this hero work pretty consistently as a character 28:55.400 --> 28:58.240 I think he's the only player I want to see playing it really like we stop here 28:58.240 --> 29:01.320 He did okay, but you can see who's like dying a lot. I don't know 29:01.320 --> 29:03.680 There's just something about Mickey when he plays it just looks quite different 29:03.680 --> 29:10.500 So we'll see what he can do with it this game as his tide is falling pretty far behind him since we did see ace left alone 29:10.720 --> 29:13.040 But he is level eight so has very good levels on him 29:13.040 --> 29:27.440 9 class, he does get seen there by that sentry, link for no one, soon on the horizon a ttb 29:27.440 --> 29:32.600 top, he's very far, jukkha is ready to go, he missed the maledict, that's true there's 29:32.600 --> 29:39.280 no maledict on that side, they need it to be there, should be alright, he's down, well 29:39.280 --> 29:40.720 Mark a little bit with the Milo Dict. 29:40.720 --> 29:41.220 Happens. 29:42.220 --> 29:43.500 It does happen at times. 29:43.500 --> 29:46.060 Very hard ability to land in the mid-game as well too. 29:46.060 --> 29:48.940 Just want to be super slow, short cast range. 29:48.940 --> 29:51.100 Yeah, animation is not the best either. 29:52.720 --> 29:54.240 Nice try though, if he lands it, it's a kill. 29:57.040 --> 29:59.040 7-7, the blink is now done. 29:59.360 --> 30:01.760 So for power vision, can look to speed things up. 30:04.640 --> 30:08.800 Ideally wanting to get an early tower here, I'd imagine, with this last try. 30:08.800 --> 30:14.220 Because they have the Lash Beast, so I would say that they want to be the ones pressuring in this early game with it to get a bit of an advantage. 30:16.860 --> 30:22.300 Just naturally being able to take those towers easier, but there's ult at the ready on the side of the lake with it. They're rotating. 30:22.300 --> 30:26.300 I'm gonna jump straight to the river here, Pox is in trouble, he's gone, no one's low though. 30:26.300 --> 30:29.420 Nisha, it's got enough burst to finish no one off, he does. 30:29.420 --> 30:32.100 Having to get the kill, Raffage comes out on the Ducales. 30:32.500 --> 30:33.100 Static. 30:33.100 --> 30:34.500 Ducales is healing up though. 30:34.500 --> 30:39.260 Finally Ace will be able to take him out, Nisha on the retreat, Static is going to chase him down here with a fail. 30:39.260 --> 30:44.700 The ball takes control of Static from now, the bash still comes into play and the damage over time takes Nisha out. 30:45.300 --> 30:46.180 We'll be okay. 30:47.980 --> 30:52.060 Static should be as well, but Boxing Respawning doesn't have the hook shot. 30:52.820 --> 30:54.740 Looking to catch Static off guard. 30:54.740 --> 30:55.780 It's hard to change that. 30:55.780 --> 30:56.620 He should be fine. 30:57.580 --> 30:58.940 Numbers brought around the mid lane. 31:00.940 --> 31:02.940 We'll get the Dominator creep this walk too. 31:04.500 --> 31:09.940 I think it's actually like an equivalent exchange on that one, but we did see quite a bit of ultimates used on the side of Liquid. 31:09.940 --> 31:12.000 Sure. There's the Gravage. Cursed. 31:12.000 --> 31:12.500 Yep. 31:13.500 --> 31:22.000 Gold-wise though, ends up even simping through the experience, but they do lose the Galvanized Charge for Nisha, so perhaps a slight win for Paravision that they get the tower as well. 31:22.500 --> 31:23.500 And now getting the storm! 31:23.500 --> 31:25.000 I get to catch on a boss, Nisha! 31:25.000 --> 31:25.500 Big win. 31:27.300 --> 31:31.500 And the cast actually bounced back to him with all the creeps there, that was actually a pretty fortunate bounce indeed. 31:32.500 --> 31:33.500 I'm getting more rolling. 31:33.500 --> 31:38.100 And it's not easy for Nisha, right? If he ever tries to push out lanes alone, they do have... 31:38.700 --> 31:42.300 And especially once that extra bling daggers down to 9 class, multiple ways to catch him. 31:42.900 --> 31:45.600 Um, so he's gonna have to farm and play pretty safe. 31:47.000 --> 31:48.500 Coming into these next few moments. 31:48.500 --> 31:54.200 Liquid looking to get a catch as they split up, but Paravision's smoking, perhaps they're making their own move. They're reading this. 31:55.300 --> 31:57.000 They're gonna find Tophie first, 9 class. 31:57.600 --> 31:58.400 The trees. 31:58.800 --> 32:01.400 He's up to the high ground, but he can catch him out with the spike camp. 32:01.400 --> 32:04.800 This box he's still gonna try and lead in himself, but that's totally already gone. 32:05.500 --> 32:09.400 Now there's not really any fight that boxy can kind of go back in at them with. 32:09.400 --> 32:13.000 He's gonna try for the team to be out, but they know he's there. They clean up both supports. 32:13.000 --> 32:17.800 That was a hot little play there. Back up smoke. I don't think Liquid expected that by any means. 32:18.500 --> 32:21.800 Get right on top of them there. That's Blink pretty much finished up for 9th class. 32:22.100 --> 32:24.500 Setting the pace here very nicely on the side of Paravision. 32:25.500 --> 32:28.000 And playing around those cooldowns, right? They knew that Ravage was used. 32:28.000 --> 32:30.300 They knew that Cursed was used. I think it came back up, but... 32:30.300 --> 32:32.300 Great aggressive plays from them so far 32:34.220 --> 32:37.780 See again just right away finding the ramp around to tow through and at that point 32:38.460 --> 32:42.460 It's a bit awkward now, but he still wants to try and disrupt sort of the back lines 32:42.620 --> 32:47.040 But no one was there really to help him out on that one. Yeah curse was still on cooldown 32:47.040 --> 32:49.580 Yeah, so perfect timing pretty much from paravision and a great read 32:51.380 --> 32:56.480 All three cores in a very comfortable spot and their mix assassin has the blink dagger finished up in a lane 32:56.480 --> 32:58.060 that could have been much worse, right? 32:58.060 --> 33:01.740 The next beast that have not come out into this position, must be very happy. 33:06.580 --> 33:10.820 Liquid is definitely seeing quite a bit of the fragility of their lineup, right? 33:10.820 --> 33:14.180 Four heroes that just kind of die immediately if this Lash gets on top of them. 33:14.180 --> 33:17.580 Ace yet to really get involved too much here, besides that one ravage. 33:17.580 --> 33:27.580 Yes, Zero Galvanized for Nisha. 33:27.580 --> 33:30.580 Open an easy game for Momlos, though. 33:30.580 --> 33:35.580 Did get counterpicked pretty hard, right, with Lesh, plus the next assassin, in particular. 33:35.580 --> 33:39.580 And the Fortunet bounces so far from the Kalista, that you've done some work versus him. 33:39.580 --> 33:41.580 Radiance top top. 33:41.580 --> 33:49.820 3k lead, and the helm of Overlord is going to be finished at an amazing timing. 33:49.820 --> 33:53.380 All things considered, right with the lane, it's actually a fantastic one. 33:53.380 --> 33:55.380 See how much they can pressure with this. 33:55.380 --> 34:00.780 They can take objectives quite easily with this lineup. 34:00.780 --> 34:01.780 Deaths aren't finished up too. 34:01.780 --> 34:03.940 Yeah, even Roche must be right now at this point. 34:03.940 --> 34:08.420 Yeah, they want to try and use these sort of timings to just go straight out liquid. 34:08.420 --> 34:09.420 Absolutely. 34:09.420 --> 34:12.220 with the smoke Paravision ready to go with a full 5 man. 34:12.220 --> 34:16.820 Liquid's gotta be ready with their, with their teamfight in particular with the first, the biggest one. 34:19.620 --> 34:20.820 Smoke does get broken. 34:24.220 --> 34:25.420 That should be pretty... 34:26.420 --> 34:30.020 aware that this sort of moves coming in with whether they saw notice. 34:30.220 --> 34:34.420 Paravision cannot get multi-cursed though. They can hit by a multi-cursed, it could be disastrous. 34:34.420 --> 34:35.620 So they will split up. 34:37.420 --> 34:38.420 Look for the backline. 34:39.420 --> 34:46.420 9 class gets a nice sneaky ward in too, so it might be able to find the wyvern with that. 34:49.820 --> 34:50.820 Jump forward. 34:50.820 --> 34:53.180 I'll hook Jon to 9 class, he's in the cogs though. 34:53.180 --> 34:57.180 Now it's the 4th for Nisha, Nisha goes straight forward to Colossus, put the cast in the back! 34:57.180 --> 34:59.180 The ward is just gonna catch him, he's dead! 34:59.180 --> 35:00.180 Oh my god, the cast! 35:00.180 --> 35:04.660 I mean, they get the support, they do get no one, so it still works out, but Nisha, he 35:04.660 --> 35:07.260 can't catch a break against this witch doctor. 35:07.260 --> 35:09.260 The Colossus has his number for sure. 35:09.260 --> 35:14.400 Liquid, they'll be able to come out on top, of course with the Ravage coming in and ensuring 35:14.400 --> 35:19.180 that they do kill the big kill, get no one on top of two supports but uh... 35:19.180 --> 35:20.680 No Gal... he does get one Galvanized. 35:20.680 --> 35:21.180 Okay. 35:21.180 --> 35:24.060 I think that was just from leveling up though, it doesn't get any kill Galvanized though. 35:24.060 --> 35:26.660 He's just gonna continue to struggle. 35:26.660 --> 35:30.380 A very aggressive play coming in from Paravision does get punished. 35:30.380 --> 35:36.500 He tried to push him with the cards but didn't get inside. 35:36.500 --> 35:37.500 Thus happens sometimes. 35:37.500 --> 35:40.500 Just the bounces. 35:40.500 --> 35:43.860 Perfectly between Nisha, Ace, back to Nisha. 35:43.860 --> 35:50.780 Just enough of an interruption to set up for the bash coming in from Satanic and Dead 35:50.780 --> 35:51.780 Storm. 35:51.780 --> 35:52.780 But you know what Nisha says? 35:52.780 --> 35:53.780 I don't mind. 35:53.780 --> 35:54.780 I don't mind. 35:54.780 --> 35:55.780 We've got three in the turn. 35:55.780 --> 35:57.780 He's having to be a bit of that sacrifice. 35:57.780 --> 35:58.780 Yeah. 35:58.780 --> 35:59.780 He's like, you know what? 35:59.780 --> 36:04.600 Yeah, I am sure to call us and say like that. That's great. I love getting cast 36:04.600 --> 36:08.300 like that, but oh. Night class. 36:08.300 --> 36:12.560 Wooo, he's quick with that one. Sneaky, sneaky. 36:12.560 --> 36:19.080 Senders that roast, we're mentioning the desktop with that hum of overlord timing. 36:19.080 --> 36:23.260 Ravage was used. They do still have curse that the ward coverage of Paravision is 36:23.260 --> 36:25.320 watching all this area from Liquid. 36:25.320 --> 36:28.820 Well, I need you to be able to get the Amplify Damager in as well. 36:28.820 --> 36:30.320 That's actually quite nice. 36:30.320 --> 36:31.820 He's going to want to try and go for a steal, right? 36:31.820 --> 36:33.320 They can Power Stop for vision. 36:33.320 --> 36:34.320 Yeah. 36:34.320 --> 36:36.320 They have Rocket Flare for vision as well. 36:36.320 --> 36:38.320 Don't have the Hookshot. 36:38.320 --> 36:40.320 Maybe it's too risky. 36:40.320 --> 36:41.320 Too risky. 36:41.320 --> 36:42.820 Yeah, and then I'm going to try and go for a steal. 36:42.820 --> 36:44.820 So, Baravision, they might not have won the teamfight, 36:44.820 --> 36:47.320 but they do get that Aegis on to Static. 36:48.320 --> 36:50.320 Super early one. 18 minutes. 36:50.320 --> 36:51.820 You usually don't see them until like 20. 36:51.820 --> 36:54.320 But having that Gesso and Overlord at that good timing 36:54.320 --> 36:55.820 and allow them to set this tempo. 36:55.820 --> 36:58.820 Can get the lanes in a good position, prepare themselves for the torment or two. 36:58.820 --> 37:00.720 And when you have Aegis versus Teamfight, 37:00.720 --> 37:03.520 always feels good to be able to take the upcoming fights in the four minutes. 37:05.520 --> 37:06.720 Hitting very good timings. 37:07.520 --> 37:08.720 How's the beast doing too? 37:08.720 --> 37:11.620 He's getting... I mean, he's gonna have an AC relatively soon too. 37:11.620 --> 37:14.120 Not soon, but relatively early, I should say. 37:14.120 --> 37:15.020 On notice. 37:21.620 --> 37:22.720 Fantastic. 37:22.720 --> 37:24.720 first 20 minutes I would say for paravision. 37:25.600 --> 37:26.320 For liquid? 37:27.320 --> 37:30.120 That's a little bit recovery really right for Ace and Nisha. 37:30.520 --> 37:35.320 Needing the BKB in particular, at least on Mikkei so that he can just beat that frontline that they need to for the team, 37:35.320 --> 37:39.320 because he's having a fantastic game, and if he can't just BKB me only or run in, 37:39.320 --> 37:42.120 it's gonna cause some problems in particular for no one. 37:43.120 --> 37:44.920 He's very squishy on this west hill. 37:50.120 --> 37:52.320 They didn't find the ward that 9th class placed earlier, 37:52.320 --> 37:55.320 I'm a bit surprised about behind the tier 2 in the mid lane. 38:02.320 --> 38:03.320 Liquid... 38:03.320 --> 38:05.320 How the hell to back up? 38:05.320 --> 38:11.320 Do you think they'll feel that they need to try and look for something whilst Pyro is at this age? 38:11.320 --> 38:13.320 Or will they just be avoiding the most part? 38:13.320 --> 38:16.320 It's hard for them to get onto the opposite side of the map right now. 38:16.320 --> 38:18.320 They have to deal with some lane issues, so I don't think they can look for it. 38:18.320 --> 38:21.320 Especially not till Mika has BKB, I'd imagine. 38:21.320 --> 38:23.320 With BKB, perhaps they can look for a play. 38:23.320 --> 38:25.320 Nisha, careful. 38:26.320 --> 38:29.320 Has to be so cautious about that Carapace. 38:32.320 --> 38:34.320 Just till they're finished up for Boxing, that will help. 38:34.320 --> 38:37.320 Versus the Nix, doesn't have any charges just yet. 38:37.320 --> 38:41.320 Night class scouting, giving information for his team. 38:41.320 --> 38:52.320 A lot of information. 38:52.320 --> 38:53.320 Good old cogs. 38:53.320 --> 38:54.960 I'm also giving info. 38:54.960 --> 38:59.920 The night class just stalking Boxy, ensuring that they know always where this block is. 38:59.920 --> 39:04.400 Decalus's eyes, he's setting up for a wisdom steal, it looks like he is. 39:04.400 --> 39:09.840 Trying to go for this 21 minute wisdom. 39:09.840 --> 39:20.280 the game's slowing down so it's a shot goes the way it's nine class he was 39:20.280 --> 39:24.000 about to buy it so fantastic for him one of the better ones you can get early 39:24.000 --> 39:29.480 on they're looking to pressure with this they can't even kill the tide hunter 39:29.480 --> 39:32.440 since they do have this break ace is very close to having agonies for the 39:32.440 --> 39:36.680 next fight to that goes a big time in some part isn't the agonies done for 39:36.680 --> 39:37.680 Satanic? 39:37.680 --> 39:38.680 Mm-hmm. 39:38.680 --> 39:40.680 Now he is super fun. 39:40.680 --> 39:42.680 He's matching Mickeh, who has six kills. 39:44.680 --> 39:46.680 What did Liquid do about this? 39:46.680 --> 39:48.680 Hit the scam paravision. They know that Liquid's in the trees. 39:48.680 --> 39:52.680 Into the Aegis. It's tough to see how they want to approach the fight. 39:52.680 --> 39:53.680 Foxy? 39:53.680 --> 39:54.680 They go for the hookshot. 39:54.680 --> 39:57.680 The catch on to Nightclas. They're clipping him at the edge of the sentry. 39:57.680 --> 40:01.680 Nightclas now with a turn on. Awards, Foxy. Nightclas will die. 40:01.680 --> 40:02.680 Foxy? 40:02.680 --> 40:07.180 Now we're gonna take out that to the damage in town for Satanic. 40:07.180 --> 40:09.180 One time fight back there, look at the Satanic. 40:09.180 --> 40:12.680 Satanic turns to him, the win runs out, Ravage comes out onto the two of them. 40:12.680 --> 40:16.680 Ducales, he'll survive there through that initial burst as the witch does, so he's still alive. 40:16.680 --> 40:19.180 Mika's gonna try and hit him down to the stone stair. 40:19.180 --> 40:22.180 The death towards out, finally Ducales will fall, but the damage has already been done. 40:22.180 --> 40:24.680 Mika's guy through the BKB. 40:24.680 --> 40:26.180 Liquid has to run. 40:26.180 --> 40:28.180 Ace, finish off by no one. 40:28.180 --> 40:30.180 Satanic's on top of Toto to the cast. 40:30.180 --> 40:32.020 We'll hold back the two of them. 40:32.020 --> 40:34.220 The Turf is still potentially in trouble. 40:34.220 --> 40:35.600 We'll try and hide across the trees. 40:35.600 --> 40:36.720 Satanic, look at this. 40:36.720 --> 40:38.600 Roars down on Tanisha. 40:38.600 --> 40:40.100 And so that manner afterwards, they 40:40.100 --> 40:41.220 will be able to zip away. 40:41.220 --> 40:43.100 Satanic, do you want to dive the base? 40:43.100 --> 40:45.140 He gets to the silence, because we want to go up 40:45.140 --> 40:47.780 into the Turf trees quite yet, though. 40:47.780 --> 40:49.780 Oof, Micah, he gets the BKB off, 40:49.780 --> 40:51.380 but all of the damage already put out. 40:51.380 --> 40:53.700 The edict was taking everything was right on top of him. 40:53.700 --> 40:55.380 He just gets melted right through it. 40:55.380 --> 40:56.740 I'm shocked Luke would really committed 40:56.740 --> 40:58.300 to go for this fight into the ages. 40:58.300 --> 40:59.860 I guess because they got the Ravage on three, 40:59.860 --> 41:02.860 but it took him some extra time to finish off the witch doctor. 41:04.560 --> 41:06.260 Ball continues to roll for paravision. 41:07.060 --> 41:08.660 And look at the damage they were able to do to him. 41:09.660 --> 41:11.060 He didn't have windrun up at the start either. 41:11.060 --> 41:15.360 I think he got clipped by an initial stun too, so all that damage came out before Mikkei. 41:15.560 --> 41:16.460 So he can't turn. 41:17.960 --> 41:22.260 So he's at this point where they sort of hit the shackle, they sort of maybe go for safe damage, 41:22.260 --> 41:24.060 and he said that if the ravage comes in... 41:24.960 --> 41:25.960 But watch Mikkei here. 41:25.960 --> 41:28.960 He takes some time to get to the windrun, and he gets stunned. 41:28.960 --> 41:34.160 A lot of damage gets put on, still no win run, and then the edict is already out by the time it comes out, so he's just dead. 41:36.480 --> 41:37.980 Very good fights for paravision. 41:40.320 --> 41:42.200 That's exciting, but he's super strong right now. 41:42.200 --> 41:47.840 Yeah, and notice has a full AC now after the fight too, so the damage from Staphanic is gonna be ridiculous. 41:47.840 --> 41:49.400 Everybody is sitting at, what, minus... 41:50.280 --> 41:51.280 Yeah, minus 11 armor. 41:53.400 --> 41:57.440 And some pretty squishy heroes at this point, especially Nisha, as we see him just chain die. 41:58.960 --> 42:00.700 Yeah, you get caught in a spot, you're pretty dead. 42:00.700 --> 42:02.700 Yeah, they'll be at negative armor pretty much. 42:02.700 --> 42:03.700 Or at one armor. 42:05.200 --> 42:07.700 Same thing for Micae, all of them actually are. 42:09.300 --> 42:15.200 Yeah, the ace has 23, but everybody else will be pretty much at zero armor if they get hit by a desk though, near the Beastmaster. 42:45.200 --> 42:51.040 has to sort of be a situation which Lick would get that kind of jump instance done on to someone, 42:51.040 --> 42:56.800 but it's not too easy. I mean, they do obviously have a blink on Tofu, but they don't kill heroes that fast, right? 42:56.800 --> 42:58.720 Yeah, even if they do get that. 42:58.720 --> 43:03.760 Yeah, if Micky's there, he can probably just delete one target, but that's only one target. 43:03.760 --> 43:08.400 I would say Paravision, they have so much more spread damage, much easier ways to just go for the 43:08.400 --> 43:12.800 just straight up fight, and a blink now for notice to pick and choose which target he wants to go for with the Roar. 43:12.800 --> 43:17.400 There's going to be a complicated kind of mid game for Liquid to get out of. 43:17.400 --> 43:19.440 Yeah, it's a tough one. Tough one here for Liquid. 43:19.440 --> 43:23.560 Paravision looking very hot right now with his first 25 minutes. 43:23.560 --> 43:25.320 And look at 9-class. We said he's got the break. 43:25.320 --> 43:27.960 Oh, Declas, he's going to be ready to lay down the damage. 43:27.960 --> 43:31.520 Here he goes, with the Maladiks in the depth ward, not a chance for the tide. 43:31.520 --> 43:34.240 9-class, further set up here. 43:34.240 --> 43:35.960 This guy's on top of it. 43:35.960 --> 43:38.360 And we'll try and strike back against 9-class. 43:38.360 --> 43:40.360 9 plus 7 to 10, get a nice 2-man stun off! 43:40.360 --> 43:43.360 9 plus 10 alive for him to still finally dies! 43:43.360 --> 43:46.360 Might get a trade kill, it's gonna be close! 43:46.360 --> 43:48.360 Gets the Golden Brace off, okay. 43:49.360 --> 43:52.360 So at least something in return, but still losing Ace. 43:52.360 --> 43:55.360 As both Ace and Nisha continue to struggle to catch up. 43:55.360 --> 44:01.360 Ace stepped up very far by himself, versus that tower there, which they've not been able to really pressure onto any of these towers. 44:03.360 --> 44:06.360 Paravision, dictating pace. Tofu. 44:06.360 --> 44:12.860 Don't switch to Carlos, but Satanic's ready to enter him from the side, straight away with the silence they catch Tofu! 44:12.860 --> 44:15.360 Satanic does put the BKB! 44:15.360 --> 44:19.360 They'd be expecting that more heroes were in the area, but not the case. 44:22.360 --> 44:24.860 Push on a little bit here, Power of Vision. 44:26.860 --> 44:28.860 Everything looking fantastic for them. 44:28.860 --> 44:31.860 They set Ace falling further and further behind. 44:31.860 --> 44:36.420 have a decent timing on that axe but absolutely seeing the struggles for them. 44:36.420 --> 44:40.740 He's tackling so much. 44:42.820 --> 44:45.300 Nine class has truly ruined him this year. 44:45.300 --> 44:49.380 He really, honestly, I feel like nine class is on the next assassin. 44:49.940 --> 44:52.660 You know, it doesn't matter if you're a niche, you know, one of the best in the world of the 44:52.660 --> 44:54.420 storm. You're just not going to have a good time, right? 44:54.420 --> 45:00.260 Nine class on the next, he is going to make your life pretty miserable if you're on a storm spirit. 45:00.260 --> 45:04.620 Best nix in the world by far. Yeah, he's just gonna trip you up every single time the carapace in the stun 45:05.120 --> 45:07.120 And he will find you 45:07.460 --> 45:09.460 Insane what he's been able to do this game 45:10.500 --> 45:16.580 From the early game sure he died level like died pretty early on in kind of a funny way right but either way he gets the job done 45:17.300 --> 45:23.220 Let me saw this the other day. I didn't feel like I was like there was a time where you would just always ban out nix assassin against 45:23.220 --> 45:25.460 Paravis. A lot of times that time might still be now 45:25.460 --> 45:30.460 I mean Paravizion, a lot of times when 9-class has found that hero, right, he's kind of front-games. 45:30.460 --> 45:34.460 His monkey king at TI, people started banning it, and then it was like, uh-oh, what's 9-class gonna play? 45:34.460 --> 45:36.460 And you saw him truly struggle, so... 45:37.460 --> 45:41.460 Perhaps could be something that teams do look at, but he does have quite a bit more heroes right now inside of the pool. 45:42.460 --> 45:45.460 But this one does feel like he's one of the strongest, but not the strongest. 45:45.460 --> 45:47.460 It just gives so much for the team right now. 45:47.460 --> 45:53.980 And the lane, it was looking rough, but then he made these moves happen and then no longer. 45:53.980 --> 45:56.900 Notice has fantastic timings, probably better than expected. 45:56.900 --> 46:01.580 Well there's the BKB on no one, so he'll feel a bit more confident just kind of entering 46:01.580 --> 46:04.220 into the midst of the team fight. 46:04.220 --> 46:10.140 Partisan's brand as well, incredibly strong now on this lash. 46:10.140 --> 46:16.220 And rallied around the AC, sitting at 23 armor as well too, so Liquid has to have some pretty 46:16.220 --> 46:22.060 insane execution in this upcoming fight. They do have the blink on ace. They're looking for a wombo combo. 46:25.180 --> 46:29.020 Shield and an amp damage though on no one for the upcoming fight as well. 46:32.620 --> 46:37.580 Power vision. While nine class goes and hunts, looks for information, steals shrines, the team is 46:37.580 --> 46:45.820 sticking together as four. Not getting caught off your boxy, attempting. 46:46.220 --> 46:55.520 They're not coming to an end and not really able to find anything with it, they'll try 46:55.520 --> 47:01.080 and push on towards the bottom of ParaVision, which looks like they're pretty prepared for 47:01.080 --> 47:02.400 any sort of play from Liquid. 47:02.400 --> 47:04.160 They're going to smoke up again, Liquid. 47:04.160 --> 47:07.280 I'm quite impressed with ParaVision's macro game this game. 47:07.280 --> 47:10.400 They'll fight 9 class 1 is on. 47:10.400 --> 47:13.360 So this time Elise is able to take him out, but there's a couple of smokes having to be 47:13.360 --> 47:15.880 popped to just get that next assassin kill. 47:15.880 --> 47:22.600 They're reading these movements pretty nicely, because even earlier when they did that very early tier 1 play, just reading Liquid's moves has been quite beautiful. 47:22.600 --> 47:24.100 Boxy's still persisting. 47:26.880 --> 47:27.880 Pretty ready for it. 47:27.880 --> 47:29.640 I'm not gonna get caught out by that. 47:29.640 --> 47:31.080 You sure? Jumping? 47:31.080 --> 47:33.080 He's gonna try and go for the zip forward. 47:33.080 --> 47:35.580 He's gonna try to throw the dust as well. 47:35.580 --> 47:40.800 He doesn't have to commit with the BKB though, to get this kill, and at the start, hold on, he's ready to go. 47:40.800 --> 47:47.800 Two jumps on him was the two supports, they've caught time from Vox, he noticed, he's him, we're gonna have to buy back coming from two cars, he draws down to control Mikkei 47:47.800 --> 47:52.800 As he's gonna get beaten down by notice, he's gonna try and run away in it 47:52.800 --> 48:00.800 See if he can escape this, the stun won't connect, the slow does, from the lightning, no one blinks for it, has to be a little careful, the focus flyer is still up on it 48:00.800 --> 48:01.800 Towards him 48:01.800 --> 48:03.800 No way he gets out, nine class, he's on him 48:03.800 --> 48:05.800 He's gonna find him 48:05.800 --> 48:12.360 It can run, but 9 class indeed, wait him right behind him, takes him out. 48:12.360 --> 48:16.320 The call is even buying back, when it's probably not even necessary, but just ensuring that 48:16.320 --> 48:19.200 his team can just dominate the win. 48:19.200 --> 48:22.800 Great fight, and it feels almost like a bit of a desperate move from Liquid, double smoking, 48:22.800 --> 48:24.000 looking for this catch. 48:24.000 --> 48:27.680 No one, he's in prime position, gets the scone on the two supports, deletes the Wyvern 48:27.680 --> 48:30.200 before he does literally anything. 48:30.200 --> 48:35.520 Next fight, Stakedatic is going to have to pull MKB, as the, the casket of Lifestan is 48:35.520 --> 48:38.680 You're gonna get harder and harder for Mikkei and as you can see on the net worth 48:38.880 --> 48:43.520 He's pretty much the only kind of real hope the liquid after rally behind at this point of the game 48:43.520 --> 48:46.320 So as he starts to get countered by these pickups 48:47.040 --> 48:49.360 The game is gonna fall into 48:49.760 --> 48:54.240 Top and tougher territory for liquid. They'll get a little bit of a catch here on a safe turnic the cards 48:54.440 --> 48:58.600 They'll be annoying. He's took a PKB ready to press safe turnic. We feel his pressure to do so 48:59.360 --> 49:04.320 Chasing on for box here put the PKB now get the silence on for Nisha and he should taking a hell of a lot of damage here 49:04.320 --> 49:07.320 That's a zippered all the way back. 49:07.320 --> 49:09.320 He takes an insane amount of damage though. 49:09.320 --> 49:11.320 Has to back up all the way to base. 49:11.320 --> 49:12.320 Static. 49:12.320 --> 49:14.320 Pull back the lag. 49:14.320 --> 49:18.320 He's, this, this Kaz performance is also pretty incredible. 49:18.320 --> 49:20.320 The amount of farm that he's been able to find. 49:20.320 --> 49:22.320 Perfect itemization, yo. 49:22.320 --> 49:25.320 Another VKB picked up here for the team. 49:25.320 --> 49:28.320 Noticed that it's his online. 49:28.320 --> 49:29.320 Liquid. 49:29.320 --> 49:35.200 Ravage again at the ready. Cursed, of course, was used. Still trying to find these fights, trying to find something. 49:35.980 --> 49:39.220 BKB is cooled down for the cast, so perhaps that's the reason why they're hunting right now. 49:39.220 --> 49:40.820 I'm crossing stages, don't wait, watching! 49:40.820 --> 49:43.380 OOOH, Nisha will be able to react with a BKB this time! 49:43.380 --> 49:44.420 Foxy's deleted. 49:44.420 --> 49:46.820 After they used the BKB to come back up, they'll try and focus. 49:46.820 --> 49:48.820 No, but no one's got the BKB in the bloodstaren off. 49:48.820 --> 49:52.620 They kill up, time for the rules, they're controlling the KG through the BKB. 49:52.620 --> 49:54.120 They'll try and run now. 49:54.120 --> 49:56.620 They have to just get out, liquid if they can. 49:56.620 --> 50:05.620 Neesha alone at HP and the mana will be able to zip away, Rammies does come out but it's not going to do a whole lot offensively, will at least give the charge for Mikkei to run. 50:05.620 --> 50:09.620 But defensively, Ace will assist them in getting out. 50:09.620 --> 50:12.620 Ace blinks north, can they actually get onto him? 50:12.620 --> 50:15.620 He tried to dive the base here for Mikkei. 50:15.620 --> 50:20.620 He was looking at that on a charge, so they do manage to at least keep their cores alive there. 50:20.620 --> 50:25.780 Yeah, but they're hunting for these fights because perhaps it's like the Kez, BKB or something's on cooldown 50:25.780 --> 50:29.220 But they can't get any type of big kills walking on the high ground 50:29.220 --> 50:32.380 They get nobody boxy dice literally instantly as you hook shots in 50:33.940 --> 50:37.860 And just get that the way they walk into that right now in class he's just thank you for the missus there 50:37.860 --> 50:43.780 But he sees these this also a move. I'm still not as right. I mean, just sort of just zipping out trying to just dust him 50:43.780 --> 50:45.780 Yeah, I can only imagine 50:45.780 --> 50:51.780 They're definitely, at least probably a few of them on the team stand. We do not want to play against this Nick's assassin again. 50:51.780 --> 50:59.780 No, definitely not. He is doing so much work and has so much mixed damage as we're seeing in their draft coming into play. 50:59.780 --> 51:07.780 The BKBs come up at nothing's safe. BKB you get forward and Enix on top of you, little pokes from any of the things that could come from the Kess. 51:07.780 --> 51:14.780 WC's storm, Nisha in particular having the most difficult time as his core is a silence. 51:14.780 --> 51:17.380 A couple casts that have ruined him as well. 51:17.380 --> 51:21.940 Yeah, T'Karlis is having a lot of fun on this which Doctor you can only imagine, doesn't 51:21.940 --> 51:22.940 get to get it much. 51:22.940 --> 51:23.940 Nobody does. 51:23.940 --> 51:27.140 It's not, but it's always an enjoyable one to play. 51:27.140 --> 51:31.020 100% competitive win rate coming into the witch doctor here. 51:31.020 --> 51:32.020 Potentially. 51:32.020 --> 51:34.020 Very likely so far. 51:34.020 --> 51:38.540 I have vision on my way over. 51:38.540 --> 51:40.020 Stapanic ready to chase. 51:40.020 --> 51:52.020 Does not have too much to fear at this point whatsoever now on this case. 51:52.020 --> 52:01.060 Liquid, is there anything soon that's coming out that's going to be big? 52:01.060 --> 52:06.060 I think he needs to spend as well too, I don't think he can save for buyback in this type of game. 52:06.060 --> 52:10.060 I think he needs to have every little bit of damage he can to try to burst these targets. 52:10.060 --> 52:16.060 If they can burst the Lash and try to isolate things, but it's so hard. 52:16.060 --> 52:24.060 How enough do they go about now, stopping notice from being able to freely roam Mikkei every time Mikkei BKB tries to roll up someone? 52:24.060 --> 52:26.060 He might be priority number one, maybe. 52:26.060 --> 52:32.060 Yeah, I think so. If he gets the press brawl on the windranger, the fight's over. 52:32.060 --> 52:34.060 Either the windranger's dead or the windranger has to run away. 52:34.060 --> 52:36.060 Essentially so. 52:36.060 --> 52:38.060 But how do you focus fire the Beastmaster? 52:38.060 --> 52:43.060 Because he's a 36 armor, BKB, 3600 HP. 52:43.060 --> 52:45.060 Don't think you can even burst him in him. 52:45.060 --> 52:48.060 I mean, if you obviously isolate him completely, but... 52:48.060 --> 52:51.060 It's not been the case notice, it's not been caught off like that. 52:53.060 --> 52:55.060 Definitely difficult. 52:56.060 --> 53:04.400 Maybe just a multi-hero ravage into a multi-hero shackle and then right and then they focus 53:04.400 --> 53:05.400 like that. 53:05.400 --> 53:08.360 Yeah, maybe we look towards a, to be the one to make the big combat plays here with the 53:08.360 --> 53:09.360 ravage. 53:09.360 --> 53:12.040 But it's very difficult to execute at this point with this disadvantage. 53:12.040 --> 53:13.040 We'll have the Sheevas. 53:13.040 --> 53:21.560 But so far, Paraviz just has not, they really have not given them the opportunity at all 53:21.560 --> 53:23.240 to go for, like you said, go for the chorus. 53:23.240 --> 53:24.640 It's the supports only who are dying. 53:24.640 --> 53:27.040 8 on 9 class, 6 on the witch doctor. 53:27.040 --> 53:28.240 And the boy's found again! 53:28.240 --> 53:28.740 Free-raining! 53:28.740 --> 53:29.940 I'm telling ya! 53:29.940 --> 53:30.940 He's just coming in! 53:30.940 --> 53:32.140 He's done with this, Nix! 53:32.140 --> 53:35.340 He's a never-again-do-I-wanna-play-against-the-9 class! 53:35.340 --> 53:36.340 Nix, this happens. 53:37.040 --> 53:38.740 Wouldn't be surprising if it's... 53:38.740 --> 53:39.740 ...baned out, Nix. 53:46.940 --> 53:47.940 Truly crushing it. 53:51.440 --> 53:52.340 Time to poke high ground. 53:52.340 --> 53:59.340 25k lead, they've got Aegis, there's that crit for Micke. 53:59.340 --> 54:06.940 See if he can actually kill a core, since it's been a long, long time since they've been 54:06.940 --> 54:07.940 here. 54:07.940 --> 54:14.740 How do they even begin to push power vision back here? 54:14.740 --> 54:16.860 It's like an Aegis, then? 54:16.860 --> 54:18.260 Might just one shot them through Topu. 54:18.260 --> 54:20.260 They've got to get back to the fountain there. 54:20.260 --> 54:22.260 Let's get a hookshot for the box. Here's the Ravage! 54:22.260 --> 54:24.260 It's a pretty one. 54:24.260 --> 54:27.260 He gets a whore of them, and no one's there to put the BKB in the bloodstone. 54:27.260 --> 54:31.260 He's out, but again, no one's ready every time with the run to make it. 54:31.260 --> 54:34.260 The curse comes out. Again, it's a nice curse. 54:34.260 --> 54:36.260 It's bringing no one down though. 54:36.260 --> 54:38.260 It will at least allow them to kill off no one. 54:38.260 --> 54:40.260 But make this dead. 54:40.260 --> 54:44.260 Let's say Tannick, he just cuts for tofu with a couple of slices. 54:44.260 --> 54:47.260 Zip for Frenesia, but the barracks are already gone. 54:47.260 --> 54:51.260 Every single time, Micke just gets roared. There's no defense for him. 54:52.260 --> 54:56.260 The ults were nice. You know, nice poor man wrapping. 54:56.260 --> 55:01.260 But he's a little three man cursed. But uh, nice, ain't gonna cut it at this point. 55:01.260 --> 55:08.260 And now they're healing up. Which doctor will be able to push them back toward full HP? Rax. 55:08.260 --> 55:11.260 30 seconds till Micke is backed up. 55:11.260 --> 55:22.260 Nisha trying to clear the wave, will be a flag bear creep, they still have the double catapults coming in, and top wave is still pretty gigantic, they could just keep going. 55:22.260 --> 55:32.260 I think they will. Don't really need to back off until their power vision. Absolutely crushing it in here in this game one, Nisha. Look at the PKB off. 55:32.260 --> 55:36.260 But my goodness, he nearly gets caught again there by 9 class. 55:36.260 --> 55:39.260 Misha's had no game. Literally no game. 55:42.260 --> 55:46.260 Misha's had a gun relatively low, but still has the Aegis. 55:46.260 --> 55:47.260 Night class. 55:47.260 --> 55:49.260 Can they get anything here, Liquid? 55:49.260 --> 55:51.260 They want this next year. 55:51.260 --> 55:52.260 Misha, he wants them! 55:52.260 --> 55:53.260 Get him! 55:53.260 --> 55:54.260 He's going to get him! There we go. 55:54.260 --> 55:58.260 A little bit of revenge coming out, but now Stake Tannix ready to get him with the BKB. 55:58.260 --> 55:59.260 Who did it? 55:59.260 --> 56:03.260 He's really focused fired by Mika, but Stake Tannix, if we get the heal off, turns back towards him. 56:03.260 --> 56:05.260 Curse will hold back the three of them. 56:05.260 --> 56:10.260 of them. Into the shackle, if they can finish off the kill they can. The Vortex is there 56:10.260 --> 56:14.640 but Nisha's actually using all of his mana for this. He'll die for that because he can 56:14.640 --> 56:18.340 be about to come to an end. He'll turn over the Power Shire. Actually, it's enough to cut 56:18.340 --> 56:25.020 down 9 classes and die back on the next assassin. A little bit of a sign of life there honestly 56:25.020 --> 56:31.420 from Liquid. They're able to kill off Static. They get 9 classes twice in that fight and 56:31.420 --> 56:35.260 they get to call us on top of it they keep the game alive it's pretty much the 56:35.260 --> 56:38.700 best fight they've had all game the sequence of the way the the stuns 56:38.700 --> 56:41.460 came out yeah the roar right the roar came out on mickey and it's like oh oh 56:41.460 --> 56:44.780 but then they get the curse they get the shackle shot they're actually able to 56:44.780 --> 56:48.220 follow up with a vortex afterwards to bring down some panic and yet Nick's 56:48.220 --> 56:52.020 assassin buys back and dies all right let's make it can do that again liquid 56:52.020 --> 56:55.940 it's a pretty big side of life at least to be able to try to get these leans get 56:55.940 --> 56:58.240 these Lotus's potential to help versus the Beast. 56:59.840 --> 57:01.340 And yeah, focus in the next, right? 57:01.340 --> 57:02.540 Definitely a good idea. 57:04.040 --> 57:06.740 And yeah, we'll see the kind of change situation that happens here. 57:06.740 --> 57:08.240 The panic's starting to drop low, 57:08.240 --> 57:11.340 the board is gonna come out, and then great person sequence afterwards. 57:13.740 --> 57:14.540 That's tofu. 57:15.640 --> 57:18.840 Getting that off and giving the chance for Mikkei to stand strong, 57:19.340 --> 57:22.140 turn, and get that big kill taking out Satanic. 57:22.140 --> 57:24.740 You've got a huge amount of money for that one, Mikkei. 57:24.740 --> 57:29.860 It's a very difficult kind of chain stun to execute, but they do at least get it off 57:29.860 --> 57:34.060 finally for the first time in this game on to this, on to this bird. 57:34.060 --> 57:38.160 And Mikkei, yeah, ultimate orb is done, gotta be getting closer and closer to potential 57:38.160 --> 57:39.160 linkins to protect him. 57:39.160 --> 57:43.140 Of course, there's still other spells to get procced, so there's still B4 that comes 57:43.140 --> 57:46.500 through quite easily, so I stepped toward the right direction. 57:46.500 --> 57:50.100 Can they do it again, Lquint? 57:50.100 --> 57:52.500 Execution has to be literally perfect, right? 57:52.500 --> 57:57.780 That's the sequence that they can't use wait for the roar was the quick move from power the curse of liquid up to back off 57:57.820 --> 58:00.260 It's can spin hit power vision is going to be chasing them 58:01.300 --> 58:05.180 Notice they've been they've been cautious notice also has a full hacks for the next fight 58:05.180 --> 58:08.640 So he can just hacks into a roar potentially to find the next target 58:16.140 --> 58:18.140 Momentum for provision 58:18.140 --> 58:23.140 The shard for notice. Oh, that's nice. 58:23.140 --> 58:27.140 Oh, and the river! Oh, they get the opening! 58:27.140 --> 58:29.140 Oh, and the ravage is not quite there in time. 58:29.140 --> 58:31.140 St. Tank's able to plot the BKB and escape. 58:31.140 --> 58:34.140 No ravage now. Two minutes. 58:34.140 --> 58:40.140 Now, is at a point as well where we'll see how long the Roshan Respawn is, 58:40.140 --> 58:44.140 but if it's an early one, it might be there before ravage is back in play. 58:44.140 --> 58:44.980 Let's see. 58:46.380 --> 58:47.420 It's up straight away. 58:47.420 --> 58:48.260 It's instant. 58:48.260 --> 58:50.700 So no ravage for the Roshan contest. 58:50.700 --> 58:52.620 If, you know, we have to go to the ravage, 58:52.620 --> 58:53.700 I have to head into the pit 58:53.700 --> 58:55.500 and see that it's there for the taking. 58:55.500 --> 58:57.380 DKB is on cooldown, so they could, 58:57.380 --> 58:58.820 they could wait 60 seconds, 58:58.820 --> 59:00.660 then just do the super safe play of going for it. 59:00.660 --> 59:01.660 They haven't checked the pit yet though, 59:01.660 --> 59:03.020 so I don't think they're 100% aware 59:03.020 --> 59:04.380 that it is up at the ready. 59:06.380 --> 59:07.820 But they should just be able to go for that one there. 59:07.820 --> 59:08.940 With ravage on cooldown, 59:08.940 --> 59:11.540 very difficult to see how liquid contests. 59:11.540 --> 59:13.500 Almost having refresher on ace 59:13.500 --> 59:15.500 and getting closer to 25. 59:17.140 --> 59:18.780 He's not for big pressure. 59:18.780 --> 59:21.460 Like, could you get that extra few hundred gold now? 59:21.460 --> 59:23.740 Because if he gets that refresher, 59:23.740 --> 59:25.980 and he's having sort of surprised them with them. 59:25.980 --> 59:27.780 I think they want the double though. 59:27.780 --> 59:29.900 Sure, Robin, just going for the cheeky kind of. 59:29.900 --> 59:30.980 Oh, you didn't think we had it? 59:30.980 --> 59:31.900 We did. 59:31.900 --> 59:34.260 And they're not even going for that rush just with anyway. 59:34.260 --> 59:35.860 He's gonna have it done though, for the fight. 59:35.860 --> 59:36.780 Okay. 59:36.780 --> 59:38.340 Okay. 59:38.340 --> 59:40.780 See if they can land the big combos 59:40.780 --> 59:43.200 to allow Mickey to kill these cores. 59:43.500 --> 59:46.100 This one's coming in from ParaVision. 59:47.100 --> 59:48.100 Liquid. 59:48.100 --> 59:50.100 They seem very careful for this. 59:50.100 --> 59:53.300 They know that ParaVision is going to be looking to try and catch someone out on the map. 59:53.300 --> 59:56.300 Scan's been hit though. ParaVision knows somebody's leaving the base. 59:58.300 --> 59:59.300 Some of the balls over there. 59:59.300 --> 01:00:00.300 Found Poxy. 01:00:01.300 --> 01:00:02.900 Catching kill off the clock, Quirk. 01:00:04.100 --> 01:00:05.100 Decent kill. 01:00:05.100 --> 01:00:07.300 It's the rocket though. It's going to be scouting the roast constantly. 01:00:10.100 --> 01:00:11.300 Double observer is going to take me out. 01:00:11.300 --> 01:00:11.800 Ooh! 01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:12.800 There's the cut! 01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:18.800 There is the Yuntus there, so the curse from Tophu, not gonna get the McKell, and now they just can be able to jump back over towards Tophu. 01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:21.800 His only option is buying some protection, but not enough. 01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:27.800 Goes for a cheeky play. I mean, it was a risky one. He doesn't have Vi back on the Wyverns, they won't be here for the high ground effect. 01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:30.800 They will look for the jump, and they get the Shackle as well, on towards no one. 01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:35.800 Ravage comes through, but notice that so much HP to try and get for his perfectly fine. 01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:40.800 Look at the BKB off, and the Bloodstone. Boxy, he pulled back for this, he's out for good. 01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:45.760 Aces out of the game, no buyback on him, no get the grab on a Saitanic, but Saitanic's healing up, we'll get the parry up, 01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:49.280 Jumps over towards BK's, healing up here, Saitanic, he'll survive. 01:00:49.640 --> 01:00:56.240 They're running out of buybacks as this game looks to be over, everybody dead on Liquid, TG's core, 01:00:56.240 --> 01:01:05.200 power vision, take this game one, look, it looked pretty impossible, this one for Liquid, they had that one kind of hopeful little bit of a defense, 01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:09.120 able to push back a little bit, but outside of that, 01:01:09.120 --> 01:01:11.520 They were full of ma in the whole time. 01:01:11.520 --> 01:01:14.820 They were. Really clean execution, I would say overall from Power Vision here. 01:01:14.820 --> 01:01:20.420 They even forced the issue there. I think the Ravagerate he refreshed when he had 15 seconds left on the first one. 01:01:20.420 --> 01:01:22.920 He thought he was the worst to do it. 01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:25.720 Yeah overall, I think Power Vision did exactly what their lineup wants him to do. 01:01:25.720 --> 01:01:30.020 Caused chaos, assist the mid lane, and that's, I mean, fronted afterwards, right? 01:01:30.020 --> 01:01:32.520 You saw how much the no one on the left was able to do. 01:01:32.520 --> 01:01:37.520 Notice also had a fantastic time and pretty much, I would say all of it was because of the nicks, 01:01:37.520 --> 01:01:42.200 But a lot of this early game, it's got to be in the back of Liquid's mind going into the draft again. 01:01:42.200 --> 01:01:47.920 It's the only way they want to play against that, and it's at least no way is Nisha going to want to play Storm against. 01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:50.880 And it's being in the game, a 9-class, it's being in the game after that one. 01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:56.080 That was a tough one for him, got completely shut down, and I went for Witch Doctor. 01:01:56.080 --> 01:01:57.120 I went for Witch Doctor. 01:01:57.120 --> 01:02:00.560 Beautiful day here for the Witch Doctor fans out there, maybe. 01:02:00.560 --> 01:02:05.360 We'll see some more of the Witch Doctor come through in this draft because it's an addictive area. 01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:09.360 You play it once, you want to play it again, and you didn't even get to do the agonist stream. 01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:12.860 This was a game where if you're the witch doctor, you're kind of hoping for a bit of a throw, 01:02:12.860 --> 01:02:15.360 so it goes 30 minutes longer, you're going to get a blink in the act. 01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:17.860 He's going to want to pick it against the next game, we'll see if he does. 01:02:17.860 --> 01:02:19.860 Game one, ladies and gentlemen, it goes to Paravision. 01:02:21.860 --> 01:02:24.860 100% win rate on the witch doctor, I don't know about that ice build, 01:02:24.860 --> 01:02:28.860 but we'll see if we can get it in action in game two. 01:02:28.860 --> 01:02:33.860 A lot to break down from this game. One down here with B.S.J. Insanya and Jenkins. 01:02:33.860 --> 01:02:38.860 right! Tekken should have solved Fingers Cross. Tekken is pretty much the first game. 01:02:38.860 --> 01:02:46.860 Yeah, Fingers Cross here for sure. Really well played by Paravision. I mean, the first, like, 15 minutes of the game where it was a lot closer. 01:02:46.860 --> 01:02:53.860 It was just a high-skilled game, like, really good teamfights. You know, we saw some really good action in the mid lane. 01:02:53.860 --> 01:02:59.860 Micae showing up on Windranger, getting some clutch kills. You know, Witch Doctor, absolutely popping off. 01:02:59.860 --> 01:03:06.860 Yeah, cool stuff from Paravision. Like, flying with Notice, it seems like they've ascended to another level of it. 01:03:06.860 --> 01:03:09.860 Like, maybe he's bringing like the good vibes to the team or something like that. 01:03:10.860 --> 01:03:15.860 Yeah, when I came into the series, like, prepping for it, I was kind of putting myself in the mind of 01:03:15.860 --> 01:03:17.860 Puppy and the side of Paravision and being like, how can... 01:03:17.860 --> 01:03:23.860 I feel like Liquid's a bit exploitable with the way that they're drafting right now, and this game was like, 01:03:23.860 --> 01:03:27.860 you think of like the most delicious pizza you could ever imagine, and then somebody makes it for you. 01:03:27.860 --> 01:03:32.100 makes a pepperoni, and we're gonna go sausage, chicken, 01:03:32.100 --> 01:03:34.500 Alfredo sauce, and banana, 01:03:34.500 --> 01:03:35.340 because you're gonna speak to Tom. 01:03:35.340 --> 01:03:38.380 I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, 01:03:38.380 --> 01:03:39.380 I don't think that's great. 01:03:39.380 --> 01:03:40.460 No, I think that's good. 01:03:40.460 --> 01:03:41.780 I don't think you should do that. 01:03:41.780 --> 01:03:43.740 The downside is when you guys do banana pizza, 01:03:43.740 --> 01:03:47.180 you also put shrimp and some curry powder on there. 01:03:47.180 --> 01:03:48.940 Okay, and I don't know why that's the thing. 01:03:48.940 --> 01:03:50.300 Please continue the monologue, 01:03:50.300 --> 01:03:52.260 because this is disgusting. 01:03:52.260 --> 01:03:54.860 That was a nice little sidetrack there. 01:03:54.860 --> 01:03:57.380 No, for me, I saw this draft from Parry, 01:03:57.380 --> 01:04:01.420 and I'm like, okay, pizza, perfect, beautiful pizza. 01:04:01.420 --> 01:04:04.940 And what I saw with Liquid was they are picking turret heroes. 01:04:04.940 --> 01:04:07.020 You talked about claw enabling turret heroes. 01:04:07.020 --> 01:04:09.980 So first thing they do is pick a BKB piercing disable 01:04:09.980 --> 01:04:11.740 that helps you focus down and makes it very difficult 01:04:11.740 --> 01:04:13.780 for these heroes like Windranger during BKB 01:04:13.780 --> 01:04:16.020 to actually use their damage output. 01:04:16.020 --> 01:04:16.860 Then they pick Kes, 01:04:16.860 --> 01:04:18.980 which is a highly contested carry between these two teams. 01:04:18.980 --> 01:04:20.500 They almost like bait out the tide, 01:04:20.500 --> 01:04:22.420 who's like a traditional counter to Kes. 01:04:22.420 --> 01:04:24.940 They give them which doctor has a five that ruins his lane. 01:04:24.940 --> 01:04:31.200 They give him a nix who has a built-in break on the ulti, so that makes it so Tide's no longer this frontliner in T-Fights. 01:04:31.200 --> 01:04:32.580 Obviously, a killable frontliner. 01:04:32.580 --> 01:04:34.540 Literally removed Ace from the game. 01:04:34.540 --> 01:04:41.040 It felt like he turned into a blink ravage, and then the guy that's supposed to be killing the people is stunned during the ravage anyways. 01:04:41.040 --> 01:04:43.120 Most of the time, it was very hard to follow him up. 01:04:43.120 --> 01:04:45.780 And then the last big lash, I just feel like, brought it all together. 01:04:45.780 --> 01:04:51.660 I just watched the game and I was like, I feel like on all fronts they had Liquid's number, strategically and execution-wise. 01:04:51.660 --> 01:04:55.340 Didn't they pick Storm Spirit into the Nix's assassin? 01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:58.940 I-I-I expressed concern about that, because I feel like the new Nix like- 01:04:58.940 --> 01:04:59.900 They price released so- 01:04:59.900 --> 01:05:01.140 Yeah, the mana board hurts. 01:05:01.140 --> 01:05:03.400 Like, if you just hit by the Vendetta, it hurts. 01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:04.240 For sure, for sure. 01:05:04.240 --> 01:05:07.000 But it also goes like, you know, Nix is also a bag of gold. 01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:10.040 That runs around the map, unless he's playing from, like, a strong position. 01:05:10.040 --> 01:05:12.040 And I think, in this game, but... 01:05:12.380 --> 01:05:16.120 I was surprised that Wyvern and the Windranger managed to shut down the Nix, so well in the early game. 01:05:16.420 --> 01:05:18.120 But then the Nix got a couple of trade kills, 01:05:18.120 --> 01:05:19.560 and then he goes from like level 3, 01:05:19.560 --> 01:05:23.560 Having no lane at all, only been killing creep waves to level 6, at minute 8. 01:05:23.560 --> 01:05:24.060 Yeah. 01:05:24.060 --> 01:05:26.560 And then suddenly the game is completely flipped on its side. 01:05:26.560 --> 01:05:31.760 And I think that's where in the early game, I feel like things were looking pretty stable for both sides. 01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:35.560 But for Liquid, I think that's where it really hurt them. 01:05:35.560 --> 01:05:38.560 Like when this thing gets solo killed on the Windranger outside the Roshpit. 01:05:38.560 --> 01:05:43.260 And he's part of another trade situation where he just gets a bunch of XP and then suddenly he's a hero. 01:05:43.260 --> 01:05:47.560 And now Storm can't just zip and kill him on the map every day. 01:05:47.560 --> 01:05:53.060 You were talking about a pre-game that is kind of like a battle between Liquid Park, Liquid wants to draw attention to the bottom lane. 01:05:53.060 --> 01:06:00.060 Brian, I'm very happy that you are here, but we can't hear you. So you're just here for the eye candy. 01:06:00.060 --> 01:06:03.060 But we do have a clip. I'm sure Jankos can also talk about it. 01:06:03.060 --> 01:06:07.060 Don't remember what's happening. Oh yeah, this was the zip from Nisha. 01:06:07.060 --> 01:06:13.560 It's unusual to see him make a mechanical misplay, but I liked what the caster said. 01:06:13.560 --> 01:06:16.560 You're just not used to playing against with Shocker in this meta. 01:06:16.560 --> 01:06:22.080 Uh, Dukalis somehow makes this hero look very high skill, 01:06:22.080 --> 01:06:24.080 which of course is which character player myself. 01:06:24.080 --> 01:06:27.120 It is definitely high skill, but depending on who you ask, 01:06:27.120 --> 01:06:30.280 if it's core players, they will say that it isn't bringing the 01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:33.880 Nisha into the Roche pit, and then, you know, using the cast as always. 01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:35.680 Very nice little play. 01:06:35.680 --> 01:06:38.080 What I was trying to say about these clips is that 01:06:38.080 --> 01:06:40.080 Aiden mentioned pregame that it was going to be 01:06:40.080 --> 01:06:42.080 party vision trying to bring attention to the mid lane 01:06:42.080 --> 01:06:44.880 and liquid trying to bring attention to pressuring the Beastmaster bottom. 01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:47.040 And notice how all these clips are in the middle lane. 01:06:47.040 --> 01:06:50.180 So basically, Parry got exactly what they wanted out of this. 01:06:50.180 --> 01:06:54.580 These were the fights that you were talking about, Aiden, that put 9-class back in the game. 01:06:54.580 --> 01:06:58.080 He gets that kill on Wyvern, solo XP, level 4 to level 5. 01:06:58.080 --> 01:07:03.480 And now he's gonna kill Mika. He literally goes from level 4 to level 6 in 10 seconds. 01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:09.780 We've had a lot of conversations about this in the green room, particularly around the greedy enchantment, 01:07:09.780 --> 01:07:15.680 And how there are these supports, which is like Nyx or Bane, who don't have a way of farming creeps. 01:07:15.680 --> 01:07:21.080 And it feels like farming creeps right now is really strong, even from support, even with the greedy enchantment. 01:07:21.080 --> 01:07:27.780 And my feeling is that Nyx is one of the absolute worst heroes to be getting free kills. 01:07:27.780 --> 01:07:33.080 Because he has no good way of farming creeps. Like, none at all. 01:07:33.080 --> 01:07:38.480 But the feeling for him, if he has gold, is like way higher than other supports. 01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:42.080 he can literally run around and like one shot your course. So it's that 01:07:43.640 --> 01:07:45.960 it's really risky if you're giving this hero kills early game. 01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:52.160 And on top of that, it's the nine class Nick's Assassin, which is already a tier above most teams, most people. 01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:56.480 And Pyrovision in this first game was a tier above Team Liquid. 01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:59.880 And let's take a look at how many people thought of actually before we do that. 01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:06.960 Let's take a look at what the standings are right now before this series finishes 01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:11.240 because it is to... can anybody take down the cost? 01:08:11.240 --> 01:08:13.240 You're in shooting range there. 01:08:13.240 --> 01:08:16.600 Yeah, but I have a strategy that I have to follow. 01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:17.240 You're welcome. 01:08:17.240 --> 01:08:22.360 And I might be... I might be sabotaged today. 01:08:22.360 --> 01:08:25.000 But we'll get to that as we can... 01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:26.760 Oh, I did say... I did say... 01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:29.160 Yeah, so I had to go liquid. 01:08:29.160 --> 01:08:31.520 I did say... because I was close to... 01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:32.800 You did follow Aurora. 01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:35.200 Yeah, because this is the strat. 01:08:35.200 --> 01:08:41.800 I have to always go against Jekyll unless Aurora is playing because he doesn't choose the worst team when Aurora is playing, he always chooses Aurora. 01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:55.600 I follow my instinct, no I follow my instinct, I really love Nightfall, he's my favorite guy, so I always go for him, I think it's funny to go for the underdog, so I go for the underdog because that's what my instinct is. 01:08:55.600 --> 01:09:02.200 And today, with Liquid Bearvision, I genuinely thought it was so close that I just went with like, what do I like more? 01:09:02.200 --> 01:09:05.400 Well, you are still with the majority. 01:09:05.400 --> 01:09:07.400 And I like no one. He's a really great guy. 01:09:07.400 --> 01:09:09.000 He's an excellent guy. 01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:10.360 Super massive guy. 01:09:10.360 --> 01:09:11.720 He's a big guy. He's a big guy. 01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:12.520 He's strong. 01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:13.080 He's strong. 01:09:13.080 --> 01:09:13.560 Yeah. 01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:14.680 Very strong. 01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:15.720 He doesn't need the strongest. 01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:17.800 Who says that? 01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:18.600 Some. 01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:20.280 Oh, that sounds legit. 01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:21.400 That sounds really good. 01:09:21.400 --> 01:09:21.960 I believe him. 01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:23.640 I believe some as well. 01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:27.080 This game, he didn't need to be too strong though, 01:09:27.080 --> 01:09:28.360 because I felt like the game... 01:09:29.400 --> 01:09:30.680 He didn't need to take Teemo's back, 01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.080 because everybody was carrying their own weight. 01:09:33.080 --> 01:09:36.080 Yeah, but I think his hero pick really ramped up the pace of the game. 01:09:36.080 --> 01:09:39.180 I think it just synergized perfectly with what the rest of their draft was doing. 01:09:39.180 --> 01:09:40.580 So I think no one... 01:09:40.580 --> 01:09:44.280 His hero naturally put a lot of pressure on the towers, the objectives around the map, 01:09:44.280 --> 01:09:48.380 and I feel like they had a great lineup for turning every single kill 01:09:48.380 --> 01:09:49.580 into like a massive objective. 01:09:49.580 --> 01:09:53.380 They took the early Roche, the tormentors, the towers, they were all just crumbling, 01:09:53.380 --> 01:09:54.480 partially due to that leisure. 01:09:54.480 --> 01:09:57.780 Well, we're gonna find out who has a better lineup in game number two, 01:09:57.780 --> 01:09:59.780 and it's coming your way after a break. 01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:50.680 What you need is love and all to stay here Find a heart whose love is true 01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:58.680 Deep down there's only one companion Who's there for you when you need them to be 01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:02.840 Your heart was broken in a thousand pieces 01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:06.040 So was fate that you've been through 01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:10.680 Here's there's a man who's your salvation 01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:15.480 Just ask yourself, am I ready for you? 01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:18.920 One hundred percent 01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:20.920 Now I'm in 01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:23.920 And I'm at a stand-up 01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:27.420 Yes, and maybe I smile when 01:11:27.420 --> 01:11:31.420 I'm ready to vote in 100 percent 01:11:34.420 --> 01:11:38.420 Take a chance in a new direction 01:11:38.420 --> 01:11:42.420 Any place you wanna go 01:11:42.420 --> 01:11:45.420 I don't have all the answers 01:11:45.420 --> 01:11:50.420 One thing I know, I'm so ready for you 01:11:50.420 --> 01:11:52.420 I'm ready to vote in 100 percent 01:11:52.420 --> 01:11:55.420 I'm ready, I'm ready 01:11:55.420 --> 01:11:57.420 No, I'm ready 01:11:57.420 --> 01:11:58.420 Yes, I am 01:11:58.420 --> 01:12:02.420 I'm ready, I'm ready 01:12:02.420 --> 01:12:04.420 I'm ready 01:12:34.420 --> 01:12:44.420 One hundred percent, no, I'm ready. 01:12:44.420 --> 01:12:48.420 One hundred percent, no, yes I'm ready. 01:12:48.420 --> 01:12:57.420 One hundred percent, no, one hundred percent, yeah. 01:13:04.420 --> 01:13:06.420 I 01:14:04.420 --> 01:14:07.420 You are the only one 01:14:11.420 --> 01:14:15.420 Strangely, good thing I didn't know 01:14:15.420 --> 01:14:19.420 You got the whole town in love that gets a taste of love 01:14:19.420 --> 01:14:23.420 And that joy that's gone, it's up to the best possible 01:14:23.420 --> 01:14:26.420 Cause in the moment that you close 01:14:26.420 --> 01:14:29.420 And I get the control 01:14:59.420 --> 01:15:27.240 L 01:15:27.240 --> 01:15:33.240 Avonille, på Stedan, Göteborg! 01:15:57.240 --> 01:16:09.240 We've been counting down the days, then riding through the days, we'll take it to the grave, be the unstoppable. 01:16:09.240 --> 01:16:13.240 Unstoppable, unstoppable, unstoppable. 01:16:13.240 --> 01:16:30.600 The Mach-Eros series is 29 and for those with an exceptionally keen eye, you would have 01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:35.400 noticed that there has been a change not on this panel, not on that panel, what do you 01:16:35.400 --> 01:16:36.400 have on the screen here? 01:16:36.400 --> 01:16:41.000 We have a new panel amongst our meds! 01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:44.000 And I figure I don't know if you guys have a microphone there. 01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:47.000 What do we got, Isak? I hope you say your name proper. 01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:51.000 Welcome to the show. Thomas, that's the way for personal reasons. 01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:56.000 Well, I'm glad that you're here to support us with the guitar. 01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:00.000 But this is important. Can you play a solo? We need to put you to the test. 01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:01.000 No pressure, though. 01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:06.000 All right, approved. That's it. 01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:12.520 That's a bass guitar, I was, when you said guitar, my expectations were like Aussie Osborne 01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:13.520 stuff coming out. 01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:15.020 No, no, no, Thomas was the bass guitar. 01:17:15.020 --> 01:17:16.020 Yeah, I understand that. 01:17:16.020 --> 01:17:17.520 Actually, Thomas could also play the trumpet. 01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:19.520 Ah, here we go. 01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:21.520 Here we go. 01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:23.520 Fast on the right. 01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:25.520 Check back in tomorrow. 01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:27.320 It's all good. 01:17:27.320 --> 01:17:35.280 We are in the middle of our first series on this stream of the day. 01:17:35.280 --> 01:17:41.360 got Paravision and Team Liquid in the playoffs. Winner goes through in the upper bracket. Loser also 01:17:41.360 --> 01:17:45.600 goes through but in the lower bracket. So there's a lot of pressure here. Paravision took game number 01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:50.800 one of Team Liquid and after that game one, I think the way you guys were talking about it, 01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:56.480 it sounded like it was heavily draft related. Is that fair to say? Because there was a lot of 01:17:56.480 --> 01:18:00.160 talk about how the one-year-old counts as the other and then they did and Brian you talked about 01:18:00.160 --> 01:18:07.160 how they were kind of baited out, like outplayed in the draft, but they were a little bit outplayed also in the game. 01:18:07.160 --> 01:18:11.160 I'm saying it was not only the drafters, also the way they executed it. 01:18:11.160 --> 01:18:14.160 I feel like the drafters played it into the way they want to play. 01:18:14.160 --> 01:18:17.160 I think they were enabled to play their game through the draft. 01:18:17.160 --> 01:18:20.160 I think that was like the main thing that they really managed to accomplish here. 01:18:20.160 --> 01:18:24.160 Yeah, they like, they, I think they had an idea of what they were going to do coming into it, 01:18:24.160 --> 01:18:29.160 and to be able to set yourself up for that at all stages of the game against a team like Team Liquid. 01:18:29.160 --> 01:18:31.160 like Team Liquid that is like no small feat. 01:18:31.160 --> 01:18:34.600 Yeah, but I will say, I think I like to make a lot of fun of William, but one of his best 01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:38.000 qualities as a coach is I think he's very adaptable, and he can look at this game and 01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:42.320 be like, alright, I can see what went wrong, this change, and it should work. 01:18:42.320 --> 01:18:47.120 I think this is one of his absolute best qualities, and especially this deep into the tournament, 01:18:47.120 --> 01:18:51.240 he usually has more data to work with, and has an easier time of finding the solutions. 01:18:51.240 --> 01:18:54.440 Statistically, Team Liquid does frequently push series to game 3. 01:18:54.440 --> 01:18:57.560 Yeah, and they statistically lose game 1s, so it happens. 01:18:57.560 --> 01:18:59.200 I mean, it doesn't take anything away from ParaVision. 01:18:59.200 --> 01:19:02.960 I really do believe this stuff that you guys are saying is what it takes to not just get 01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:03.960 top four in a tournament. 01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:06.360 Like, this is what you have to do to win a tournament. 01:19:06.360 --> 01:19:10.000 It has to all come together, and it has to all come together against multiple teams as 01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:11.000 well. 01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:15.680 Not just we've figured out Liquid, they have to do the same sort of drafting style against 01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:18.800 other teams working against the heroes that those teams play. 01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:21.120 So it's really cool to see a team do very well on the group stage. 01:19:21.120 --> 01:19:24.160 I think everybody had high expectations for ParaVision going into the playoffs, and then 01:19:24.160 --> 01:19:27.160 In game one, it's like, okay, these guys are serious business right now. 01:19:29.660 --> 01:19:34.160 Well, we are in the draft, our vision is radiant side with second pick. 01:19:34.160 --> 01:19:37.160 Team Liquid for a first pick and a giant side. 01:19:37.160 --> 01:19:40.160 That's a notice to respect right there. 01:19:40.160 --> 01:19:43.160 And Axe has in general been rising in stock a little bit. 01:19:43.160 --> 01:19:45.160 Especially against Kez's. 01:19:45.160 --> 01:19:48.160 Against Kez, against the Turrets, it's good. 01:19:48.160 --> 01:19:50.160 We talked about Liquid enjoying the pick. 01:19:50.160 --> 01:19:51.160 That's your safe lane. 01:19:51.160 --> 01:19:53.160 The Turrets and Kez. 01:19:53.160 --> 01:19:58.520 Curries that do more damage than HP that they have yes, yeah, which way more damage than yeah 01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:04.640 I mean as because like his first items are mage slayer deso. It's 6000 gold of no HP literally no HP all damage 01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:10.640 So yeah, I think axe axe and Legion will always be worth considering and I think for a very long time now 01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:15.680 Why do you say why do you say I'm saying I'm saying that everybody's gonna play Legion come in 01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:17.680 I think Axe is better for me. 01:20:17.680 --> 01:20:19.680 Against his own will. 01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:21.680 But he didn't. He hated it. 01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:23.680 Let's get the Legion commander out here boys. 01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:25.680 Come on. 01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:27.680 There's a hard to fix Legion right now. I won't say a single word for the rest of the game. 01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:29.680 There's a reason why Legion is 01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:31.680 she's a conceptually bad hero for competitive. 01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:33.680 I stand by that. There's too many heroes that counter player. 01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:35.680 But there's a reason why this hero has like a 54% 01:20:35.680 --> 01:20:37.680 wonder rate in pubs for like the last year. 01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:39.680 Because she is good against what's good right now. 01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:41.680 It's just, it's a hero that 01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:43.680 conceptually is just far inferior to Axe. 01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:47.440 inferior to axe the fact that's what I wish you you have a taunt that's on a 60 01:20:47.440 --> 01:20:51.920 second cooldown that you like that's your entire kin while axe has a 12 second 01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:55.240 cooldown taunt that matches your blink dagger pull down right I'm absolutely 01:20:55.240 --> 01:20:59.640 shocked why didn't they pick Legion commander oh me too now I told me they 01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:02.640 were gonna pick Legion commander and now they picked timber saw much better here 01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:06.000 only solution left in the pool what do you think about timber saw first case 01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:09.200 because in theory you can take through all of the stuff but because it's also 01:21:09.200 --> 01:21:13.280 like a natural mage layer fire and he does so much damage that before you 01:21:13.280 --> 01:21:18.140 get stacks, at least on previous packs before you get stacks, Kess can actually kill you. 01:21:18.140 --> 01:21:21.260 But Kess is like a hero that kills you with the lingering damage, doesn't he? 01:21:21.260 --> 01:21:24.460 Like, it's after he's hit you ten times that you're like kicking out. 01:21:24.460 --> 01:21:27.900 Maybe not ten times, like a Q will do a lot of damage to Timber. 01:21:27.900 --> 01:21:29.900 Slowly to come down through the region. 01:21:29.900 --> 01:21:36.180 Now, I'm saying this, when the patch was that Timbers were going QW and the passive wasn't very good, 01:21:36.180 --> 01:21:41.380 that has changed. It got buffed, people are going at least two points in the passive and building tanky. 01:21:41.380 --> 01:21:45.640 So I would wager that if their first phase picking Timber against Kez 01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:49.400 It's because they've played in pubs. They've done the math. It must work 01:21:49.400 --> 01:21:52.360 I think it's like this so for party you're looking for two things 01:21:52.360 --> 01:21:54.580 You're looking for a good matchup into Kez absolutely 01:21:54.580 --> 01:21:57.980 But you're also looking for a hero that can kind of soak up the lane and be left for me too 01:21:57.980 --> 01:21:58.480 Yeah 01:21:58.480 --> 01:22:04.140 I think it's quite important to the way that they want to pick my class and it's quite important to have their overall strategy of beating liquids 01:22:04.140 --> 01:22:07.720 Gonna come to that's true. They want to pressure mid. They don't want to be forced to play in 01:22:07.720 --> 01:22:11.780 this bottom lane and for that to be the case they need to have a solid laner 01:22:11.780 --> 01:22:15.060 a hero that can like sustain himself manage to get through that first 10 01:22:15.060 --> 01:22:18.820 minutes and timbers a great option for that I think like they're not looking at 01:22:18.820 --> 01:22:22.620 what can we smash kez with they're looking at what can we like kind of trade 01:22:22.620 --> 01:22:25.500 this lane up and I think we saw plight on their last game it didn't look very good 01:22:25.500 --> 01:22:28.780 and they might be afraid of like getting like the same answer that they saw last 01:22:28.780 --> 01:22:34.660 time so they thought this is like a better answer I did look at timbers 01:22:34.660 --> 01:22:41.220 There's changes in 7.41c. I knew he got buffed, but it's crazy. He got base int, base damage, and regen on his passive. 01:22:41.220 --> 01:22:44.980 Like, they made his laning stage way all better. 01:22:44.980 --> 01:22:51.860 Every time historically, the passive got better, Timber became good. Every time the passive got nerfed, Timber became sad. 01:22:51.860 --> 01:22:58.980 And the base damage definitely helps. It means you're not constantly spamming spells, which by the way, spells suck ass in the early levels. 01:22:58.980 --> 01:23:03.620 They scale to be, like, better than they were before, but they're so weak until you level them. 01:23:03.620 --> 01:23:07.300 So being able to just CS with your right flicks, it's a really big deal. 01:23:10.820 --> 01:23:14.340 I feel like, like, Glitch or something is like super nice to... 01:23:14.340 --> 01:23:15.620 ...speal the witch doctor. 01:23:16.180 --> 01:23:20.900 No, I like Glitch. I think Glitch has a very natural, like, simple way of answering cookies. 01:23:21.860 --> 01:23:25.700 It's a decent hero against Timber, if you manage to lock him down, you have a lot of magic damage to burst him with. 01:23:28.100 --> 01:23:30.100 It's a nasty Rubik's Game, though. 01:23:30.100 --> 01:23:31.300 Rubik's against Timber's always good. 01:23:31.300 --> 01:23:31.780 It's alive. 01:23:31.780 --> 01:23:36.660 from murders him yeah and stealing the mines on techies to is some of the most 01:23:36.660 --> 01:23:42.620 fun you can have in the video game and fun is very important fun is very important 01:23:42.620 --> 01:23:49.980 great there's the lich maybe not too surprising so I actually found it kind 01:23:49.980 --> 01:23:53.100 of interesting they banned up the bliver I think they played it off gaming is 01:23:53.100 --> 01:24:00.100 because I guess they think it's like a very hard matchup to play and all of 01:24:00.100 --> 01:24:02.100 It's a lot of 9-class respect, right? 01:24:02.100 --> 01:24:07.100 Wisp is like his guy, I think he's been tearing it up in pubs for a while now. 01:24:07.100 --> 01:24:09.100 Going to kind of like core items. 01:24:09.100 --> 01:24:11.100 There's Caudals, also his guy. 01:24:11.100 --> 01:24:14.100 And what's kind of cool about these heroes is they're very game-defining heroes. 01:24:14.100 --> 01:24:17.100 Like they're Paul's 4 heroes that completely change how you play the game. 01:24:17.100 --> 01:24:21.100 And in fact, that seems to be like what fits 9-class, right? 01:24:21.100 --> 01:24:24.100 Some sort of hero that changes the dynamic of how the game flows. 01:24:24.100 --> 01:24:25.100 Yep. 01:24:25.100 --> 01:24:27.100 And he's going back to Nyx, which is a similar hero in that regard. 01:24:27.100 --> 01:24:32.100 9 plus, when they do pick him, Caudal, the whole game is based around him. 01:24:32.100 --> 01:24:33.100 Yeah, it's just the Caudal game. 01:24:33.100 --> 01:24:36.100 Everybody is a Caudal combo on all the lanes. 01:24:36.100 --> 01:24:37.100 This is an interesting paper. 01:24:37.100 --> 01:24:39.100 Yeah, this is cool. 01:24:39.100 --> 01:24:43.100 Yeah, I love Necrophos. He's one of my favorite heroes in all of Dota. 01:24:43.100 --> 01:24:46.100 It's funny that he's actually getting played carry mostly. 01:24:46.100 --> 01:24:52.100 This current patch, I'm not saying it's for sure for Satanic, but the hero has a really nice build up. 01:24:52.100 --> 01:24:55.540 You go like the Radiance Bots, usually like Consecrated Wraps, like... 01:24:56.040 --> 01:25:02.040 I think Consecrated Wraps gave him an option that he didn't previously had, where if you needed that mid-game durability item, 01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:08.400 that you didn't want to rush the bigger things, then Consecrated Wraps fills that void. 01:25:09.340 --> 01:25:14.940 And right now, what I'm seeing for Hari is that their lineup is really bursty. 01:25:14.940 --> 01:25:17.840 It's really good before BKBs come out. 01:25:17.840 --> 01:25:22.960 You have two really durable guys that are just going to be running at you as cores and then high kill threats supports that will capitalize 01:25:23.400 --> 01:25:28.960 On the guy that's just like shoving in lanes and right now team liquid is not looking very bulky themselves 01:25:29.360 --> 01:25:36.320 So I would like to see them pick something like a bad rider or a lush racks and bolt like some guy that builds to be tanky 01:25:36.320 --> 01:25:38.880 But then also does sustain damage 01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:41.760 It's a bit abusive of a 01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:48.160 of East's Dirt Pool that they pick Necro like knowing that that's in the pool. I mean, I suppose part of the issue is that 01:25:48.160 --> 01:25:51.840 Nix's Assassin is pretty good against Batrider as well. Nix is good against all of these heroes. 01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:56.160 They're good against all of these heroes, so it's, once again, very good drafting from 01:25:56.160 --> 01:26:02.400 Paravich's side. I mean, I think an easy way to think about Dora at this applies to any draft. 01:26:02.400 --> 01:26:09.760 If you want to look at heroes and be like, how do we kill their heroes and how easy is it for us to kill their heroes versus the opposite? 01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:14.520 And I feel that right now, if you look at Farry, take any two of their heroes and pair them together. 01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:17.240 Like, mix Necro, anything nice. 01:26:17.240 --> 01:26:19.940 Necro with Timber, probably hasn't a famished kill anything. 01:26:19.940 --> 01:26:23.980 And I think, as long as you can apply that, you are in a very good position. 01:26:23.980 --> 01:26:27.660 And then you do the opposite for Liquid, and I think most of the time you're gonna be forced to make three heroes. 01:26:27.660 --> 01:26:28.160 Yeah. 01:26:28.160 --> 01:26:30.040 At first, I don't know, 15 minutes of the game, right? 01:26:30.040 --> 01:26:34.320 It's gonna be hard to kill heroes in a very effective and efficient and a simple manner. 01:26:34.320 --> 01:26:39.120 Because the more heroes you need to bring to one spot in order to kill someone, the harder it is to do. 01:26:39.120 --> 01:26:44.080 And the harder it's going to be to execute the more information you're giving away. Yeah, more telegraph lanes. Yeah, exactly 01:26:44.080 --> 01:26:50.600 And right now for party. I think they have that thing going for them like big time. Oh Largo would have been good 01:26:51.360 --> 01:26:54.120 It just in terms of what went to one counters true 01:26:54.560 --> 01:27:00.260 There's a lot of value from lich though for sure like you are pretty happy at least having 01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:04.680 Something that's doing magic damage to necros something that's doing magic damage to timber 01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:11.780 You know, we have seen some pretty crazy chain for us from lich in the last few days where they do big damage if you can pull it off 01:27:11.780 --> 01:27:16.940 I think this is also one of the things we mentioned about witch doctor last game and like lich when it's new in the meta 01:27:16.940 --> 01:27:20.220 I feel like suddenly chain for us is it's wife. It's really good 01:27:20.220 --> 01:27:24.740 Yeah, you would imagine people that have played this game for like 10 plus years been on the pros team have like 01:27:24.980 --> 01:27:28.220 10 20 thousand hours in the game. It wouldn't matter 01:27:28.220 --> 01:27:32.620 You're just used to playing in slitch and you know how it works, but genuinely it has an impact 01:27:32.620 --> 01:27:36.980 I feel like those first couple of games against lich are always like it just look there's another one of those heroes 01:27:36.980 --> 01:27:40.220 You disrespected a little bit now all of a sudden you're dead. Yeah 01:27:43.980 --> 01:27:49.100 Yeah, so they're banning out on the side of liquid the pock mid counters 01:27:49.900 --> 01:27:52.460 Thinking that this is a necro carry. I think every 01:27:53.780 --> 01:27:57.900 Every game that I've seen it has been necro carry and when I looked at the stats at that 01:27:57.900 --> 01:27:58.780 It was like a couple days ago 01:27:58.780 --> 01:28:02.600 It was necro carry every single time like no matter what the team not just with I mean for other teams 01:28:02.620 --> 01:28:08.220 as well. Satanic has only played it for ParaVision, but there is always the option of a Necro mid. 01:28:08.220 --> 01:28:12.380 I think historically no one did play Necro. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. So we can. 01:28:12.380 --> 01:28:16.220 So I think if there is a team that's more prone to potentially putting it mid, it would be them. 01:28:16.220 --> 01:28:19.340 Yeah. I think these like kind of older gen midlaners played a bit more. 01:28:19.340 --> 01:28:22.380 Have a harder time envisioning like the Zoomers doing it. 01:28:22.380 --> 01:28:26.140 Okay, you for sure Necro care against Nistalker. Yeah, she's pretty free. 01:28:27.740 --> 01:28:31.820 Yeah. I feel like this Necro is incredibly hard to kill. Like they have a lot of silences on the 01:28:31.820 --> 01:28:36.700 liquid slide but like the burst damage from between like pocket and this is like almost non-existent, right? 01:28:37.100 --> 01:28:40.780 This has been the I was trying to tell you like this is my big issue with liquids drastery 01:28:40.780 --> 01:28:47.900 Suddenly as it feels like Nick is hero is like yeah 80% of their cores damage. Yeah, it's always so much and like 01:28:48.060 --> 01:28:53.620 So the thing with rubik is this hero has the potential to deal like so much damage 01:28:53.900 --> 01:28:57.940 But it's at the same time. It's always conditional, right? It's conditional on which spell you get 01:28:57.940 --> 01:29:04.100 It's conditional on like if you can survive the fight even if you can position yourself and since you're always stealing the opponent's 01:29:04.100 --> 01:29:09.080 Bell your damage is coming out after your opponent's damage. You're always like a very reactive 01:29:09.460 --> 01:29:15.100 Hero with Rubik so for liquid. I think it's it looks hard to get kills right now 01:29:16.980 --> 01:29:20.180 But you can always still go once from Necro. No is an echo 01:29:20.180 --> 01:29:26.380 I mean you can but it's like yeah, you're basically waiting for him to go in show himself. Yeah, then you steal the spell. Yeah, so the 01:29:26.380 --> 01:29:33.480 You're always reacting essentially and like you can come into fights with the spell pre stolen and obviously what you want to do a lot of the 01:29:33.480 --> 01:29:34.980 times 01:29:34.980 --> 01:29:37.060 But generally speaking his damages 01:29:37.500 --> 01:29:41.280 The variance is high. You never really know what you're gonna get. Yeah, that makes sense 01:29:41.580 --> 01:29:46.940 So what is still good against Park that's doing if this necro will be carry as we are expecting right now 01:29:46.940 --> 01:29:52.020 There's a lot. There's a lot of anything is fine like if it were another patch. I would say DK 01:29:52.020 --> 01:29:56.180 I was thinking DK, but it didn't seem good, but Kunkka is similar. 01:29:56.180 --> 01:29:58.460 I like a melee hero that does well, it's beefy. 01:29:58.460 --> 01:30:05.980 My thought process was a hero that does well against fucking lane and just undangable. 01:30:05.980 --> 01:30:08.980 Nightstalker running out of Kunkka is like, what are you going to do? 01:30:08.980 --> 01:30:10.540 Nightstalker running out of DK, same thing. 01:30:10.540 --> 01:30:13.940 It also offers you a lot of catch like that you previously didn't have on a hero like 01:30:13.940 --> 01:30:14.940 Nightstalker. 01:30:14.940 --> 01:30:18.260 Also Xmark still shares vision, right? 01:30:18.260 --> 01:30:19.260 Doesn't. 01:30:19.260 --> 01:30:21.820 It used to be that if you exfract the NS, you go like this massive thing. 01:30:21.820 --> 01:30:22.740 Oh yeah, I think so. 01:30:22.740 --> 01:30:23.980 I think it works like that. 01:30:23.980 --> 01:30:25.540 Oh, that's an insane counter. That's how hard. 01:30:25.540 --> 01:30:28.340 Yeah, so you kind of steal NS's vision. 01:30:28.340 --> 01:30:31.180 But even, I mean, I'm just, once again, I go back to damage, 01:30:31.180 --> 01:30:33.740 and now there's a Rumbuff on top of it, and like, 01:30:33.740 --> 01:30:37.020 if for whatever reason, somebody's called, like, Necro's caught on position, 01:30:37.020 --> 01:30:39.820 if he gets Rumbuffed, I feel like there's absolutely no way, 01:30:39.820 --> 01:30:42.620 even if the Kez hits him like 20 times, that this guy's gonna die. 01:30:42.620 --> 01:30:45.780 But you're not considering the 15th bounce of the chain frost. 01:30:45.780 --> 01:30:48.340 I mean, if they get 15 bounces of chain frost on Necro, 01:30:48.340 --> 01:30:50.100 But there's like a 2% chance that he might die. 01:30:50.100 --> 01:30:51.100 Yeah, right. 01:30:51.100 --> 01:30:52.100 Right. 01:30:52.100 --> 01:30:53.100 I'm sorry. 01:30:53.100 --> 01:30:54.100 I'll go ahead and shoot. 01:30:54.100 --> 01:30:57.260 No, I'm just a little worried at this point for Liquid, because we, at the start of this 01:30:57.260 --> 01:31:02.300 draft, said, you know, Liquid's very good at forcing out these third games of the series, 01:31:02.300 --> 01:31:03.300 but... 01:31:03.300 --> 01:31:04.300 We've been wrong before. 01:31:04.300 --> 01:31:05.300 It's not an inspiring confidence. 01:31:05.300 --> 01:31:06.300 That's fair. 01:31:06.300 --> 01:31:07.300 We've been wrong before. 01:31:07.300 --> 01:31:09.060 I just have a hard time seeing it right now. 01:31:09.060 --> 01:31:10.060 Yeah. 01:31:10.060 --> 01:31:15.740 I'm really curious how they plan to lane Ace into Necro, because I don't think you could 01:31:15.740 --> 01:31:22.060 just give five minutes of total free farm to a Necro and then go, okay, it's night time now now we're gonna run out of like 01:31:22.060 --> 01:31:23.900 And Necro is gonna be 01:31:23.900 --> 01:31:30.140 Unkillable by that. I think part of the genius of the Necro pick before I see the game is that it is good against all of 01:31:30.140 --> 01:31:32.340 ACE heroes one of you guys said that and I was like, yeah 01:31:32.340 --> 01:31:36.140 What what does ace plays just plays the beefy guys that hate laning against Necro 01:31:36.140 --> 01:31:40.140 So I think they kind of got forced into this night stock. Yeah, and that's not where ace wants to be 01:31:41.380 --> 01:31:43.380 Yeah, if you're playing against like whisper or something 01:31:43.380 --> 01:31:49.180 You can't obviously can't do that if you're playing as somebody who even has games on the batter rider if it's in the top 10 01:31:49.180 --> 01:31:53.020 You can't do that ace can play it. He doesn't want to though. He's not my guy 01:31:53.020 --> 01:31:58.140 He really wants to play the heroes important question previous game. We saw Nisha having a very bad time 01:31:58.140 --> 01:32:02.060 He did not have fun on his storm spirit. Does that fire him up in the next game? 01:32:03.060 --> 01:32:05.420 Let's say yes. Let's say yes 01:32:05.660 --> 01:32:11.040 He's fired up. He's gonna play his puck and he's gonna crush this game of force out of game three or not 01:32:11.040 --> 01:32:15.040 We're going to find out via the punch-and-punners! 01:32:37.040 --> 01:32:38.040 Here we go, level 1! 01:32:38.040 --> 01:32:41.640 We might just get a first blood. We do say Tannick will get the first one 01:32:41.640 --> 01:32:44.960 Oh, this could be much more trying to fight into this. They're gonna get away with this 01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:50.720 This is rough for liquid double kills for Static. They're trying to fight into the deadcruff of heels. Oh 01:32:51.360 --> 01:32:53.360 dear 01:32:53.360 --> 01:32:59.240 Well, this is not the way they wanted to start this game to liquid. Oh dear. Oh 01:33:00.320 --> 01:33:02.320 another 01:33:02.320 --> 01:33:07.480 Well, well, that's that's that's pretty fast and notice 01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:16.400 I mean did they just sort of forget they were they just got against the necrophos I walked into this dude knees 01:33:16.400 --> 01:33:21.880 They are so they tried to use the night stalker thing. I've seen people do this. You get w level one 01:33:21.880 --> 01:33:24.380 It's super strong level one because it's nighttime, right? 01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:31.840 But not really this point you got it back. Oh, he didn't get it off initially was the problem if he walks up and gets 01:33:32.320 --> 01:33:37.000 Maybe a different case because he gets it off when he's almost dead. They got every spell off 01:33:37.540 --> 01:33:39.420 Total disaster 01:33:39.420 --> 01:33:44.380 Not the stuff because I've seen this I've seen actually on the opposing when you're playing the nutstucker and you're on the high ground 01:33:44.380 --> 01:33:49.380 And they walk and you five-man silence this one. He literally gets it off as like the last ability 01:33:49.380 --> 01:33:53.660 So they get rekt satanic up one one or two. You got double kill. Oh 01:33:54.220 --> 01:33:59.660 Okay, so if you kill to assist if satanic turning up to the light starting the game on hard mode for liquid 01:33:59.660 --> 01:34:04.600 Which already pretends to look like it from the draft like the panel was talking about a very very strong one 01:34:04.700 --> 01:34:09.300 That paravigion has been able to step themselves up with and I'm looking at overall for the Kez 01:34:09.300 --> 01:34:11.700 You know we saw a Titanic pop off on it last game 01:34:11.740 --> 01:34:15.240 It feels like there's a lot of answers for this Kazus game an insane amount in fact 01:34:16.140 --> 01:34:23.060 Taser go shroud carapace from reactive armor. Be careful. There's another startup. You might have eyes go 01:34:23.060 --> 01:34:25.060 They shouldn't play ball well 01:34:25.700 --> 01:34:27.700 Actually, maybe he's not very fired 01:34:27.700 --> 01:34:29.700 Oh, he's chilling. 01:34:29.700 --> 01:34:31.700 I didn't see if he had blood grade on 9 class. 01:34:31.700 --> 01:34:33.700 He was used earlier, of course. 01:34:33.700 --> 01:34:36.700 Well, we'll only know what should be a pretty easy lane, 01:34:36.700 --> 01:34:39.700 but he was already an easy lane for him. 01:34:39.700 --> 01:34:41.700 He was versus the Nightstalker in particular, 01:34:41.700 --> 01:34:43.700 and now it's going to be much easier. 01:34:43.700 --> 01:34:45.700 He should have complete free farm, and we'll have a bracer on top of everything else. 01:34:45.700 --> 01:34:47.700 So now he won't be this, like, brown boot radius. 01:34:47.700 --> 01:34:49.700 He'll be brown boot with the bracer. 01:34:49.700 --> 01:34:51.700 A fantastic start for him. 01:34:51.700 --> 01:34:54.700 And mid lane, no one, of course, getting a kill versus Nisha. 01:34:54.700 --> 01:34:59.700 Versus Nisha, this used to be a counter pick matchup versus the puck, for quite some time. 01:34:59.700 --> 01:35:03.700 Very good physical damage, his puck is low armor, and in the mid game you can itemize. 01:35:03.700 --> 01:35:09.700 I've seen Orcid in the past be the answer to the puck from Kunkos, and I imagine that's what we will see now with him. 01:35:11.700 --> 01:35:19.700 Pressure's gonna be on Nisha. You know, he had a bit of a rough game last time on the storm, this time on the puck, but... 01:35:19.700 --> 01:35:26.200 It's another one of those heroes that a good Knicks assassin player and I kind of have one of those on Braavids in here 01:35:27.020 --> 01:35:30.800 Can cause quite an issue for yeah a counter pick again in the mid lane right last game 01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:33.000 He got counter picked as well the left versus the storm 01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:34.820 This is also a counter pick matchup 01:35:34.820 --> 01:35:39.020 So yeah, we'll see how Nisha in particular indoors because it should be a quite a hard lane for him 01:35:39.020 --> 01:35:41.300 And we'll see how that mid game ends up going versus the Knicks 01:35:42.540 --> 01:35:49.060 Top lane to do call us plus notice playing together this time around not usually the duo that you see playing together 01:35:49.060 --> 01:35:52.060 But no, the reason why right you have taser versus a lich 01:35:52.660 --> 01:35:59.180 You have this high armor as well able to trade very effectively versus canister lich with this pecky's timbersaw combo 01:36:00.100 --> 01:36:02.100 bottom lane 01:36:02.900 --> 01:36:06.300 Should be fine, but they're being kept both of them are so low 01:36:06.300 --> 01:36:11.740 It's and this is only gonna continue to get rough proper and rough for right for these two against this necroposin lane 01:36:12.140 --> 01:36:17.860 Absolutely three lane for stiff panic might have to see some type of move happen like the lich making a rotation relatively early 01:36:17.860 --> 01:36:19.860 I want to see what they do choose to do. 01:36:20.860 --> 01:36:22.860 They're ganked. They're quite a beating here. 01:36:26.860 --> 01:36:28.860 It doesn't look easy for them. 01:36:28.860 --> 01:36:32.860 This is already starting off to look pretty rough pretty early. 01:36:34.860 --> 01:36:35.860 On all three lanes. 01:36:35.860 --> 01:36:38.860 See what lanes, if they do anything, they'll have to kill. 01:36:38.860 --> 01:36:42.860 I mean, you step up, you die, and there's bottom lane right now. 01:36:42.860 --> 01:36:43.860 And they're losing creeps. 01:36:43.860 --> 01:36:46.860 They have a stacked side-pole, so they deny the entire wave as well. 01:36:46.860 --> 01:36:51.100 wave as well. And Nightstalker is a hero that already struggles in early game, oh and he's level 2. 01:36:54.380 --> 01:36:57.020 At 5 minutes, use your energy Nightstalker, you want to be able to either 01:36:57.020 --> 01:36:59.580 sit in your lane and free farm it or go and kill something in front of you. 01:36:59.580 --> 01:37:01.420 He's not going to be able to do that. He's not going to be able to do that. 01:37:01.420 --> 01:37:03.980 They will not be scared of this Nightstalker on the first night time. 01:37:06.940 --> 01:37:10.700 Pressure on all fronts, we are seeing Mica at the least able to last it up here, 01:37:10.700 --> 01:37:14.380 but very low regen and it's a kill threat lane that they have designed with Power Vision, 01:37:14.380 --> 01:37:15.700 with this techies as well. 01:37:16.260 --> 01:37:18.260 And DeKalus is making early rotations. 01:37:18.260 --> 01:37:19.980 It's a 2k lead at 4 minutes. 01:37:19.980 --> 01:37:21.980 You do not see this almost every time. 01:37:23.740 --> 01:37:24.420 No, not yet. 01:37:24.420 --> 01:37:27.220 Definitely not between these two caliber of teams. 01:37:27.220 --> 01:37:27.780 No. 01:37:28.500 --> 01:37:30.340 It was a tier 1 versus tier 2. 01:37:30.340 --> 01:37:30.980 Yeah. 01:37:31.620 --> 01:37:33.300 This is liquid. 01:37:33.300 --> 01:37:34.660 They had the struggles in game 1. 01:37:34.660 --> 01:37:36.740 They're going to have even more here in game 2. 01:37:37.020 --> 01:37:38.220 That'll be the start. 01:37:40.820 --> 01:37:41.980 I don't know how you recover this. 01:37:41.980 --> 01:37:42.540 I mean, it's nice. 01:37:42.540 --> 01:37:44.060 We're going to have to see what Ace tries to do. 01:37:44.060 --> 01:37:47.260 I don't know. It's not a hero that can go back in jungle either, is the problem, right? 01:37:47.260 --> 01:37:51.900 Like, sometimes with like a Beastmaster, you have a bit of a tough lane, you go back, it's kind of whatever, Nightstalker. 01:37:52.620 --> 01:37:53.260 You just don't. 01:37:57.260 --> 01:38:00.620 Or it's a lot. It's an infinitely slower, I should say, than pretty miserable to do. 01:38:02.460 --> 01:38:03.260 And I classless. 01:38:03.260 --> 01:38:05.980 Just, uh, getting out of nine here for Boxing. 01:38:06.380 --> 01:38:07.100 Just bodying him. 01:38:07.660 --> 01:38:09.740 He's got the Healing Lotus as well with the Blood Grenade. 01:38:09.740 --> 01:38:16.540 Satanic just ever to fully control the wave and laying on his own in the 1v1 against Ace 01:38:16.540 --> 01:38:17.540 no problem. 01:38:17.540 --> 01:38:18.540 Farty. 01:38:18.540 --> 01:38:21.100 Might be dead here. 01:38:21.100 --> 01:38:22.100 Ancient deny, can he get it? 01:38:22.100 --> 01:38:26.220 He's gonna try and he will at least be able to deny himself to the ancients. 01:38:26.220 --> 01:38:31.300 His courier won't die to the tower too, T2. 01:38:31.300 --> 01:38:33.100 Ace level 3 at 5 minutes. 01:38:33.100 --> 01:38:34.100 Satanic 5. 01:38:34.100 --> 01:38:41.300 Now we have seen these Necrocaries look pretty good. 01:38:41.300 --> 01:38:46.020 I've seen some of these Nightstalkers really struggle, especially in this game. 01:38:46.020 --> 01:38:50.460 His silence can be kind of effective, but the damage he's going to output, that's probably 01:38:50.460 --> 01:38:53.780 the biggest thing, the biggest concern overall for Liquid's draft, like who's going to be 01:38:53.780 --> 01:38:55.260 providing damage in this game. 01:38:55.260 --> 01:39:00.340 It's probably going to have to be the Kassar I have in game fights. 01:39:00.340 --> 01:39:02.980 So, McCain's got to be ahead. 01:39:02.980 --> 01:39:07.980 We'll make them work for it, it has a loader's unit. 01:39:07.980 --> 01:39:11.980 It's not back up, I mean 9 class is here, so Carlos is having a walk away. 01:39:11.980 --> 01:39:13.980 There'll be a further TP in it, it's gonna be from 8. 01:39:13.980 --> 01:39:18.980 A very early TP in here from the offlane, it doesn't allow them to kill off to Carlos. 01:39:18.980 --> 01:39:22.980 Ideally they'd hope to get 9 class as well, they won't be able to. 01:39:22.980 --> 01:39:26.980 The X-March is there for no one to ensure that 9 class gets away. 01:39:26.980 --> 01:39:28.980 Honestly I think that's the move that Ace has to make. 01:39:28.980 --> 01:39:35.100 I mean, I get involved in killing a support is probably still more than whatever he's getting from being in the bottom 01:39:35.100 --> 01:39:36.180 Yeah, it sounds really sad 01:39:36.180 --> 01:39:40.520 But like I think that movie might have to make cuz you just can't get anything down bottom 01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:43.940 And the creep wave is now coming to his tower so it's not like he lost too much out of that time 01:39:46.860 --> 01:39:51.980 Wisdom we'll see how they can test that might have to make heavy rotations on the side of liquid to protect it 01:39:52.260 --> 01:39:54.260 This that girl is level six already 01:39:55.020 --> 01:39:57.020 Misha does have coil at the ready 01:39:58.980 --> 01:40:03.980 Well, off the mark there, 9 class, a boxy. It'll be fine. 01:40:03.980 --> 01:40:07.980 Ace having to just watch, just soak experience, not get any last hits. 01:40:07.980 --> 01:40:12.980 I'm not much w-w-wait, we're gonna get TD reactions coming in because they do indeed want to stop them from being able to go for the 7 minute wisdom. 01:40:12.980 --> 01:40:15.980 They'll get the catch on towards 9 class. 01:40:15.980 --> 01:40:20.980 A burst through him. Can they get more of those? Titanic's still a bit of a tricky one. 01:40:20.980 --> 01:40:24.980 And that was the-the 4 of them turning up. I mean, they just wanted to do everything they could there, right? 01:40:24.980 --> 01:40:30.020 right to push back paravision ensure that they could control this seven-minute wisdom it was a 01:40:30.020 --> 01:40:33.140 pretty efficient one from Nisha too i believe is the tail end of the arcane room when he 01:40:33.140 --> 01:40:37.300 tps gets the coil so he'll have it up at a pretty fast frequency for the next move in 01:40:37.300 --> 01:40:44.740 they do get their shrine who say absolutely needed it notice he is also kind of struggling 01:40:44.740 --> 01:40:49.220 not in a similar vein by any means like ace he is level six and he's a hero that can recover much 01:40:49.220 --> 01:40:52.980 easier because just go to the jungle, throw some shotguns. You can farm any type of stacks. 01:41:02.420 --> 01:41:05.780 Let's go for the Micae, which if you want to get involved as well too, I'm pretty sure it's 01:41:05.780 --> 01:41:09.140 going to look to play kind of that farming style and just sit back because we did see 01:41:10.100 --> 01:41:15.460 last time Satanic was moving pretty early, right, using the silence versus the storm spirit pretty 01:41:15.460 --> 01:41:16.460 pretty effectively too. 01:41:22.180 --> 01:41:23.180 Nightclas? 01:41:25.980 --> 01:41:27.380 They don't have damage for no one. 01:41:27.380 --> 01:41:28.620 They're bringing the Night Stalker. 01:41:28.620 --> 01:41:30.620 Can they actually have enough with him, with the coil? 01:41:30.620 --> 01:41:32.220 He's gonna have to boat coming down. 01:41:32.220 --> 01:41:33.220 I'll dodge it for now. 01:41:33.220 --> 01:41:34.220 I shoulda said they dodged it. 01:41:34.220 --> 01:41:35.700 I shoulda still catch it on Tanisha. 01:41:35.700 --> 01:41:37.700 He's still alive here, no one. 01:41:37.700 --> 01:41:39.700 He's all alive if they do. 01:41:39.700 --> 01:41:40.700 Okay. 01:41:40.700 --> 01:41:43.020 Takes a fair bit, but they will be able to bring down the Kunkka. 01:41:43.020 --> 01:41:52.740 Typhoon's not going to be able to get out there, 9-close gets back in, takes the kill out for a turn, he's got stick charges, they'll still be able to find him though, so Liquid grouping up and getting the favourable trade. 01:41:52.740 --> 01:42:00.140 I like the heavy ace, you have to do this. You're this far behind, have to try to get anything you can and you do get a big kill. Conqueror will get brought down. 01:42:00.140 --> 01:42:10.540 It must mean though that the Necrophosatanic is completely free from. You're not able to do anything about this Radiance timing that's going to come out very early. 01:42:10.540 --> 01:42:14.900 He went Maximum Greedville to 4-0-4, not even putting the point to the ult since he hasn't used it. 01:42:14.900 --> 01:42:15.400 Nisha! 01:42:16.100 --> 01:42:17.780 Night class almost just solo killed him. 01:42:18.820 --> 01:42:21.620 If that stun hit, he actually gets the kill. It was super close. 01:42:22.780 --> 01:42:23.820 Carapace the orb. 01:42:23.980 --> 01:42:26.740 Nisha has to continue being very careful towards the right class. 01:42:26.740 --> 01:42:32.180 And I think the other situation there was that Yikoil came back up a fast and I think they expected because the arcane ruined so... 01:42:32.580 --> 01:42:33.780 Might have caught no one off guard. 01:42:34.300 --> 01:42:35.260 Nice movements with S.O.P.E. 01:42:35.260 --> 01:42:40.580 He's going to try and grab a Nuchus Nuchus, just a little bit beefier here with that really 01:42:40.580 --> 01:42:41.580 active armor. 01:42:41.580 --> 01:42:44.860 Set Taser now. 01:42:44.860 --> 01:42:45.860 It's enough. 01:42:45.860 --> 01:42:46.860 It is enough again. 01:42:46.860 --> 01:42:50.160 Still, I might just be able to get to Colossus as well there as to Colossus trying to help 01:42:50.160 --> 01:42:51.160 out. 01:42:51.160 --> 01:42:55.140 Ace, making the moves happen, even though he's very behind. 01:42:55.140 --> 01:42:57.140 A couple kills. 01:42:57.140 --> 01:42:58.780 All because this Nuchus Nuchus is there. 01:42:58.780 --> 01:43:00.780 Very nice stuff. 01:43:00.780 --> 01:43:06.940 They can't try and slow down power vision elsewhere. 01:43:06.940 --> 01:43:11.620 They can't slow down Slaytonic, they can do their best as a team to slow everything else 01:43:11.620 --> 01:43:13.420 from power vision down a little bit. 01:43:13.420 --> 01:43:16.140 I'd say Aston's probably pretty happy though, right? 01:43:16.140 --> 01:43:19.660 Like this was the probably worst situation ever for a Nightstalk on the offlane and he's 01:43:19.660 --> 01:43:20.660 actually level 6. 01:43:20.660 --> 01:43:23.260 His first night time was not bad at all. 01:43:23.260 --> 01:43:24.260 Yeah, he got stuff done. 01:43:24.260 --> 01:43:25.260 Not bad at all. 01:43:25.260 --> 01:43:29.700 I got this, nice little Suicide 4 will steal the Amp damage 01:43:29.700 --> 01:43:32.980 It's going to get coiled, there's a moat stall on the rune 01:43:32.980 --> 01:43:37.540 They'll be able to make you pay for that ace again in the right place at the right time 01:43:37.540 --> 01:43:41.540 Every time, stop them 01:43:41.540 --> 01:43:44.540 We'll go down 01:43:48.180 --> 01:43:49.940 There's that radiance, 10 minutes 01:43:49.940 --> 01:43:53.820 That's crazy, my god, it's 10.25, we saw 11 minutes from Witsby 01:43:53.820 --> 01:43:56.820 Yeah, he's actually able to get the kill on Nisha. 01:43:56.820 --> 01:43:59.820 Ooh, no, he's not! The side damage was not enough! 01:43:59.820 --> 01:44:01.820 Never mind, I didn't do the maps. 01:44:01.820 --> 01:44:03.820 Just enough, he's on Nisha. 01:44:03.820 --> 01:44:06.820 I've got those! Mikkei, he will get bored down. 01:44:08.820 --> 01:44:12.820 Tons of catch for this game, always with the Conqueror in general. 01:44:14.820 --> 01:44:17.820 I'm classed. It's looking for a play here. 01:44:17.820 --> 01:44:20.820 It's a 10, because we said, did it use the Reaper already? 01:44:20.820 --> 01:44:26.820 I mean, if that class sneaks, he could, I mean, Nisha's farming incredibly well if he does check that area. 01:44:26.820 --> 01:44:31.820 Oh, there's no way. Oh, there's no way. No, if he catches Nisha, Nisha is gonna be so done with the game. 01:44:31.820 --> 01:44:36.820 He's finishing off the camping time, I think. Oh, my goodness, that would have been, you know, a nightmare as a game one. 01:44:36.820 --> 01:44:38.820 Took off at least. Yeah. 01:44:38.820 --> 01:44:45.820 Self-restaying up a kill for Satanic. Shield does come out, doesn't matter. Satanic gets the kill, his gold continues. 01:44:45.820 --> 01:44:49.820 He's getting very much inflated at 7.3K net worth for 11 minutes in. 01:44:49.820 --> 01:44:53.220 And they do not have the greatest heroes in general to kill a Necro 01:44:53.220 --> 01:44:57.380 I'm just trying to think as well in these games that we've seen where the Necro has got free farm 01:44:58.220 --> 01:45:02.180 Has the Necro ever really lost those games here? The games that we start now 01:45:03.340 --> 01:45:06.300 Like you get this sort of stuff. You just it doesn't really lose 01:45:06.300 --> 01:45:09.820 I'll take a look at actually let me look at all them because we didn't get to obviously we didn't cast all of them 01:45:09.820 --> 01:45:13.260 Like was there a game with an incredibly stacked Necro that lost? 01:45:14.180 --> 01:45:17.820 I just think it has to have been right, but we shall see. I'll take a look here 01:45:19.820 --> 01:45:23.820 Oxy, he's gonna get caught in the mid. 01:45:23.820 --> 01:45:27.820 Now it's time for Zanik to walk sober, take him out. 01:45:27.820 --> 01:45:29.820 Another kill here for the Necrophos. 01:45:29.820 --> 01:45:32.820 Now Sythe back up in a few seconds as well. 01:45:32.820 --> 01:45:34.820 I mean, it's had some pretty ridiculous games. 01:45:34.820 --> 01:45:35.820 Yep. 01:45:35.820 --> 01:45:37.820 It's had a 66% win rate so far, so... 01:45:37.820 --> 01:45:39.820 So when did it lose? 01:45:39.820 --> 01:45:42.820 Did it get like just completely dumpstered? 01:45:44.820 --> 01:45:48.820 There was one game that PowerVision was able to handle it with an invoker, it looks like. 01:45:48.820 --> 01:45:52.940 Looks like and how is it? How's the necris farm? That was a game. So you got a 14 minute radiance 01:45:52.940 --> 01:45:57.880 So a little slower a little slower. Yeah, these are four minutes slower than this 01:45:57.880 --> 01:46:01.820 I was this crazy timey. So I lost when you get a 14 minute radiance, so 01:46:03.700 --> 01:46:07.140 Their draft is also I mean those is for conics and they have pretty strange drafts 01:46:07.140 --> 01:46:09.580 We didn't get that profit and necro on the same team. So 01:46:10.940 --> 01:46:14.820 Yeah, this it definitely feels like one of the best answers to almost all these off-laners 01:46:14.820 --> 01:46:19.820 It is miserable to play off lane versus necrophos, your strength may lay here all like 90% of the time. 01:46:19.820 --> 01:46:22.820 So, Satanic, moving. 01:46:22.820 --> 01:46:25.820 And the trees is gonna get the setup on a tofu. 01:46:25.820 --> 01:46:27.820 Liquid, can they try and fight back here? 01:46:27.820 --> 01:46:32.820 I mean, I'm at the nighttime, tofu's still alive, we'll be able to get the chain frost off, regardless. 01:46:32.820 --> 01:46:37.820 Still alive, finally Forster will not get the blast off, they managed to get the two supports, can they get more? 01:46:37.820 --> 01:46:38.820 He is deep. 01:46:38.820 --> 01:46:43.320 Looking over to War State Tannick, Ghost Trap's been used, he has to use the sight to try and hold that mid caper. 01:46:43.320 --> 01:46:47.820 State Tannick might be in trouble this time, can he get up another heal? He can't, he killed him off! 01:46:47.820 --> 01:46:54.320 Liquid, they might just be able to team-might, though there's the dreamcalls there, on towards no one. 01:46:54.320 --> 01:46:59.320 Liquid turned off and get a massive win there, triple kill for Asia. 01:46:59.320 --> 01:47:05.320 This guy, he's doing crazy this game. He pretty much gave him the worst lane possible. 01:47:05.320 --> 01:47:08.120 The Necrophos turns up the lane against him with a double kill. 01:47:08.120 --> 01:47:16.620 And now these 30 minutes in, and he is everywhere and doing everything to get this game back in Liquid's hands. 01:47:16.620 --> 01:47:21.520 They dove so hard for the Lich, they don't kill him at the start, he gets chain crossed off. 01:47:21.520 --> 01:47:24.520 All of Liquid is there, pretty much at the start of things. 01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:31.020 Mikkei coming at a perfect time as well with the mage flare, so reducing the magic damage, poking this Necrow constantly. 01:47:31.020 --> 01:47:35.260 Liquid, with a great response in ace, I don't have to give him so much credit, after the 01:47:35.260 --> 01:47:39.180 very worst possible charge, he's doing so much for so little of this bang. 01:47:39.180 --> 01:47:44.340 He's 12 with the 13 kills for his team on this nice soccer. 01:47:44.340 --> 01:47:49.180 Nisha also had a horrible game last time versus the Nyx, this time he's 4-0-7, either 01:47:49.180 --> 01:47:50.180 while being counter-mixed. 01:47:50.180 --> 01:47:53.220 I can play though, they'll get back on the map, straight over to Worlds, Mikkei, they'll 01:47:53.220 --> 01:47:55.500 bring him down. 01:47:55.500 --> 01:47:59.260 Paravis are overextending pretty hard there, going for these type of kills in the mid lane, 01:47:59.260 --> 01:48:02.820 back up get things back going into their comfort yeah liquid have to be quite 01:48:02.820 --> 01:48:08.580 happy about that at least I can't imagine say ten it's gonna be too quick to 01:48:08.580 --> 01:48:11.600 rush into the next team fight he's gonna be like I'm gonna go back and hit some 01:48:11.600 --> 01:48:15.540 creeps get at least my next time done at least perhaps yeah like the bots don't 01:48:15.540 --> 01:48:19.780 really give you any protection so that's absolutely need that for the next 01:48:19.780 --> 01:48:23.220 fight Titanic is playing pretty aggressively forward here for total 01:48:23.220 --> 01:48:25.780 And there is, there are allies behind. 01:48:26.980 --> 01:48:27.940 You'll get him. 01:48:28.780 --> 01:48:30.980 But as you say, he has to go pretty far for that. 01:48:32.020 --> 01:48:33.300 He's coming in. 01:48:34.020 --> 01:48:35.220 Can he get out of range of the sun? 01:48:35.220 --> 01:48:36.500 He's gonna go through it all. 01:48:36.500 --> 01:48:37.220 He can't. 01:48:38.820 --> 01:48:40.020 He's gonna regret that one. 01:48:40.020 --> 01:48:41.060 Emerging a big hill. 01:48:41.860 --> 01:48:43.140 Can they find another one too? 01:48:43.140 --> 01:48:45.300 DeColis does show himself bottom for a second, 01:48:45.300 --> 01:48:46.260 puts the ward down. 01:48:47.460 --> 01:48:48.980 Should be able to protect this tower. 01:48:49.540 --> 01:48:50.260 Nice kills though. 01:48:50.260 --> 01:48:51.300 We're good people to get. 01:48:51.300 --> 01:48:56.580 a good slowdown onto satanic before he gets that second item to before he gets 01:48:56.580 --> 01:49:02.600 the first defensive one nice it's good eyes on the car list 01:49:02.600 --> 01:49:06.500 this taser is there 01:49:08.500 --> 01:49:11.100 class 01:49:11.100 --> 01:49:15.580 miss us something up they know the next there he scouts him walks into the 01:49:15.580 --> 01:49:20.580 tower clever move there from the Asia 01:49:21.300 --> 01:49:26.300 This game comes out. Orchid's finished up for no one. Nisha has to be careful. 01:49:26.300 --> 01:49:30.300 It's Anik. He does get to jump away. 01:49:30.300 --> 01:49:35.300 He's gonna start chasing that boxy. They've got the X mark control, so they'll be able to get boxy back and reach. 01:49:35.300 --> 01:49:40.300 So, Anik, nice class. Looking for the next catch with the sentries down. Nisha, there's the Orchid. 01:49:40.300 --> 01:49:42.300 Can he get out? 01:49:42.300 --> 01:49:45.300 Ooh, dude, that was close. Nice one. 01:49:45.300 --> 01:49:50.300 Mckay coming in and making sure that the whole move was interrupted there so Nisha gets away. 01:49:50.300 --> 01:49:56.000 Great play that's the orchid reveal isn't able to find the grab on to the puck, but they do get the rubic 01:49:56.000 --> 01:49:59.740 And lose anybody there on the side of Paravision nice talent 01:50:01.420 --> 01:50:03.420 Hey 01:50:03.420 --> 01:50:08.900 Why does it even why is there a mile off as well in silence? Yeah, it's very obnoxious to play against 14 to 14 01:50:14.860 --> 01:50:19.440 Fixing the situation a little bit a little bit still the necrophos needs a fair bit of fixing 01:50:19.440 --> 01:50:20.860 There's a Pharah. 01:50:20.860 --> 01:50:22.220 Mabiner head's still here. 01:50:22.220 --> 01:50:25.260 3k advantage right now compared to any of the other cores. 01:50:25.260 --> 01:50:27.920 Yep, still problems, but niche overall, right? 01:50:27.920 --> 01:50:29.140 Laning vs. the Conqueror. 01:50:29.140 --> 01:50:30.460 End of the counter-matchup. 01:50:30.460 --> 01:50:31.660 Has done pretty decent. 01:50:31.660 --> 01:50:33.460 The first Orc could reveal he survives. 01:50:35.460 --> 01:50:36.460 As we said Ace. 01:50:37.180 --> 01:50:39.020 With an insane type of run-up in this game. 01:50:39.700 --> 01:50:40.820 The game... 01:50:40.820 --> 01:50:43.860 Definitely going to start to get a little more tricky now that Nunklust does have the bling, though. 01:50:43.860 --> 01:50:48.220 He does, because this is where he starts to really come into his element as the next assassin in evil. 01:50:48.220 --> 01:50:50.220 They'll find you and get that setup. 01:50:50.220 --> 01:50:53.220 You know, Nisha's gotta be super careful now. 01:50:53.220 --> 01:50:56.220 And on the watch now for these Nix's assassin movements. 01:50:56.220 --> 01:50:58.220 Satanic has been stalled a lot though. 01:50:58.220 --> 01:51:00.220 Because you want to buy your shard, right? 01:51:00.220 --> 01:51:01.220 Immediately when you can. 01:51:01.220 --> 01:51:02.220 Means he still doesn't have the wraps. 01:51:02.220 --> 01:51:04.220 They might find him again when he doesn't have the wraps. 01:51:04.220 --> 01:51:06.220 See if he's coming in. 01:51:07.220 --> 01:51:08.220 So what they can do to stop this, 01:51:08.220 --> 01:51:11.220 is to see if he's used to trying to control Nisha. 01:51:12.220 --> 01:51:13.220 Once turns up, 01:51:13.220 --> 01:51:14.220 Chain Frost bounces, 01:51:14.220 --> 01:51:16.220 not gonna continue for now, 01:51:16.220 --> 01:51:18.860 but they might still have killed Satanic, he's falling off! 01:51:18.860 --> 01:51:20.580 He's alive, can he get away with the shot? 01:51:20.580 --> 01:51:22.060 They couldn't quite kill him. 01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:23.880 Back up stands up. 01:51:24.180 --> 01:51:27.300 They lose the two supports, they might just lose Ace as well. 01:51:27.300 --> 01:51:30.720 He's trying to shoot for the treeline, but the blast off from T'Kallis finds him. 01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:33.140 X markings the tower, comes into play. 01:51:33.500 --> 01:51:35.300 They were ready that time, paravision. 01:51:35.300 --> 01:51:38.260 Quick rotations, the rum, I believe comes on top of him too. 01:51:38.260 --> 01:51:40.180 Extra bit, just to keep him alive. 01:51:40.180 --> 01:51:43.300 That was Liquid trying to find the opportunity right before the Rax come out. 01:51:43.300 --> 01:51:44.540 Artnark gonna be able to. 01:51:44.540 --> 01:51:48.000 interesting Reaper doesn't get the kill right it just holds Nisha back for a 01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:52.080 second I don't think he saw the shield through either so no Reaper stacks it's 01:51:52.080 --> 01:51:54.920 still getting very good for him 01:51:59.800 --> 01:52:07.080 that's all finished up okay still having pretty decent timings does feel like 01:52:07.080 --> 01:52:10.400 he's necessary though I would say to kill satanic in a lot of those yeah 01:52:10.400 --> 01:52:14.240 especially now if they can kind of get the coral the silence and then ace and 01:52:14.240 --> 01:52:19.040 and Mikkei on top of the Necrophos, even with the Raps, you know, they have a chance of killing him. 01:52:19.040 --> 01:52:19.840 Absolutely. 01:52:22.340 --> 01:52:25.640 But Mikkei not always wanting to turn up, especially not around like a tier 2 boss. 01:52:25.640 --> 01:52:27.640 I'm pretty distant for him to get there at times. 01:52:32.340 --> 01:52:33.040 Coloss? 01:52:33.940 --> 01:52:34.740 Nice distiller. 01:52:35.940 --> 01:52:37.640 We'll get the Mind-Skill as well, Boxie. 01:52:38.940 --> 01:52:40.740 He's starting to find some pretty decent steals. 01:52:40.740 --> 01:52:45.220 This is one of the best ones you can get at this time, some of these ultimates. 01:52:45.220 --> 01:52:49.580 So these remote mines absolutely come into play on these upcoming fights versus the Necro, 01:52:49.580 --> 01:52:52.140 with the puck just amping up all the damage there. 01:52:52.140 --> 01:52:55.940 And Nisha, he's going for a defensive item versus the Orchid, nearly has the ULTS finished 01:52:55.940 --> 01:52:56.940 up, so... 01:52:56.940 --> 01:53:00.180 Don't seem like he can catch up, Saltpeh. 01:53:00.180 --> 01:53:02.540 Looks like they saw no one. 01:53:02.540 --> 01:53:04.020 They saw something here. 01:53:04.020 --> 01:53:06.780 Nisha on the other side of the tree line. 01:53:06.780 --> 01:53:07.780 I think. 01:53:07.780 --> 01:53:09.780 And he's high. 01:53:09.780 --> 01:53:11.780 And go for ace. 01:53:11.780 --> 01:53:12.780 And they'll have him. 01:53:12.780 --> 01:53:13.780 And he's up. 01:53:13.780 --> 01:53:16.780 Does minus his strike back and take out nine class. 01:53:16.780 --> 01:53:18.780 What do they want to do about this Necropost though? 01:53:18.780 --> 01:53:19.780 Pots into trouble. 01:53:19.780 --> 01:53:22.780 The TP out from Foxy, but the X mark's back in play. 01:53:22.780 --> 01:53:24.780 So drag him back. 01:53:24.780 --> 01:53:26.780 Set up another for... 01:53:26.780 --> 01:53:28.780 And Statenix to get involved in. 01:53:28.780 --> 01:53:29.780 Great catch. 01:53:29.780 --> 01:53:31.780 From no one, finds the perfect hero. 01:53:31.780 --> 01:53:33.780 Gets that X onto the Nightstalker. 01:53:33.780 --> 01:53:36.280 This is one of the strongest things right now versus the Metro. 01:53:37.080 --> 01:53:38.780 Coil on Zanossist. 01:53:39.780 --> 01:53:43.280 She'll have to quickly break out of it, and they won't be able to chase this. 01:53:45.580 --> 01:53:47.980 They're too far away. Up to a 7k lead. 01:53:48.280 --> 01:53:49.080 Nighttime... 01:53:49.580 --> 01:53:52.980 We'll be going down. They do have Dark Ascension for ACB once they get involved. 01:53:53.980 --> 01:53:57.780 The daytime for Paravision, and a BKB soon on the horizon for no one. 01:53:57.780 --> 01:54:03.380 So, although he hasn't found the puck, before probably the Eul's is gonna be coming out, 01:54:03.380 --> 01:54:07.140 the Orc has good uses versus like a lot of other heroes too, right, versus the Kez in 01:54:07.140 --> 01:54:08.780 particular on these supports. 01:54:08.780 --> 01:54:20.340 We'll get a quick little pause. 01:54:20.340 --> 01:54:23.660 Pyrovision continued to be in a very comfortable position in this game. 01:54:23.660 --> 01:54:29.660 three cores continuing to thrive but we are seeing Mikkei he is at least tied with 01:54:29.660 --> 01:54:33.660 the you know the cores that you can tie if necrophos is on a different level 01:54:33.660 --> 01:54:38.660 that's a tiny very very far ahead here I'm interested in the build up a little bit 01:54:38.660 --> 01:54:41.460 I was about to say very interesting but we don't normally have this right not the 01:54:41.460 --> 01:54:46.220 AGS this early in the build yeah we literally saw which skip it literally 01:54:46.220 --> 01:54:49.180 like he was like an eight-slotted and he didn't buy it yeah I think a lot of them 01:54:49.180 --> 01:54:53.300 prefer to normally get the heart online before the AGS to sort of buff up that 01:54:53.300 --> 01:54:56.540 benefit from it so yeah interested to see that satanic's approach is to get the 01:54:56.540 --> 01:55:00.020 axe a little earlier than some of these other necrophos players right now yeah 01:55:00.020 --> 01:55:03.500 trying to think of any like specific I can't really think of any specific 01:55:03.500 --> 01:55:07.780 reasoning but I mean it is it is your damage if you feel you're not dying 01:55:07.780 --> 01:55:12.100 right you're leaning into the damage aspect of kind of the heart axe combo 01:55:12.100 --> 01:55:16.540 before you get the defensive ice element of just having a heart first yeah 01:55:16.540 --> 01:55:19.580 and it gives you like it's not just what it gives you it gives you stats right so 01:55:19.580 --> 01:55:24.040 I'll take a little bit of stats here and there as well in between things so cool showing his own style 01:55:30.360 --> 01:55:32.360 Just another good steal from boxy 01:55:32.840 --> 01:55:36.520 None of you's getting out of this one notice. You got a bit greedy there poking around that cliff 01:55:37.680 --> 01:55:43.040 The setup once the war stove boot boxy turn with a chain frost but nothing for it to bounce through for now 01:55:43.040 --> 01:55:45.040 Look at the silence in on a safe honey 01:55:45.040 --> 01:55:50.480 Can they burst him whilst his silence persists and follow up as well with the flaming Rift? 01:55:50.480 --> 01:55:54.360 It's close, but they won't quite be able to get it, he's gonna live! 01:55:54.360 --> 01:55:57.760 They can't continue to chase him, Satanic will get out, but... 01:55:57.760 --> 01:56:00.160 Oh, now's the risky one there, living on the edge. 01:56:00.160 --> 01:56:00.920 Only Jost. 01:56:00.920 --> 01:56:02.800 A nine-class hill loses life for that. 01:56:02.800 --> 01:56:05.840 Gee, he got so close to dying there. 01:56:05.840 --> 01:56:09.920 Hundred HP or so, little bailouts, I think a taser and prep to bonus with Astor, and 01:56:09.920 --> 01:56:11.400 it was just enough to keep them there. 01:56:11.400 --> 01:56:15.000 Liquid, when they're in these defensive postures, absolutely can see the 01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:18.920 strength around the night stalker, this long duration silence which is followed up from 01:56:18.920 --> 01:56:23.760 another long duration silence, there is quite a bit that they do have to deal with. Three 01:56:23.760 --> 01:56:28.800 different silences tripping up satanic for a moment there. 01:56:28.800 --> 01:56:38.680 BKB is definitely going to be the big case for Power Mission 2. Perhaps forced an issue 01:56:38.680 --> 01:56:41.440 of an objective versus these silences that are getting close to them. 01:56:41.440 --> 01:56:48.440 Yeah, BKB's gonna kinda destroy Liquid in terms of Liquid having a chance to kill anyone in these teamfights. 01:56:48.440 --> 01:56:49.940 We're gonna be down to the Cairns. 01:56:49.940 --> 01:56:52.940 Do they want it? Now that it's daytime, there's no Dark Ascension. 01:56:52.940 --> 01:56:56.440 Do they want to force some type of just objective flight, maybe go for Tormentor? 01:56:56.440 --> 01:56:59.440 They don't kill it the fastest, but they do it safe with the Necro. 01:56:59.440 --> 01:57:02.440 Let's see what the choice is gonna be from Paravision during this daytime. 01:57:02.440 --> 01:57:03.440 On cost. 01:57:06.940 --> 01:57:09.440 Compton Call is coming in as well. 01:57:09.440 --> 01:57:10.320 Should have! 01:57:10.320 --> 01:57:11.520 I'm gonna run with the blast off. 01:57:13.760 --> 01:57:16.320 My class continued to do what he does on this mix. 01:57:17.600 --> 01:57:19.280 And for liquid, some downtime, right? 01:57:19.280 --> 01:57:21.680 Probably just having to wait for farm a little bit here 01:57:21.680 --> 01:57:24.480 until either Dark Ascension comes back up in 40 seconds. 01:57:28.080 --> 01:57:31.040 Looks like they are starting to make the way toward that torment there, 01:57:31.040 --> 01:57:34.000 so we'll be able to do it with the heals of the Necro. 01:57:36.400 --> 01:57:37.040 Call us. 01:57:37.040 --> 01:57:37.520 Careful. 01:57:39.440 --> 01:57:47.440 Tofu kinda trying to sneak, but no one was in the area to stop them. 01:57:47.440 --> 01:57:52.840 He gets the shot, he's gonna go the way of nine glass. 01:57:52.840 --> 01:57:55.360 He gets it again, the dream. 01:57:55.360 --> 01:58:00.160 A very good one to bypass as well and find, you know, Nightstalker. 01:58:00.160 --> 01:58:02.240 Because you can just run up the cliff and chase him too. 01:58:02.240 --> 01:58:03.760 I also see he's going for the distiller. 01:58:03.760 --> 01:58:06.960 I was waiting to see if someone was gonna buy it first of the Nightstalker since it 01:58:06.960 --> 01:58:07.960 gives you shared vision. 01:58:07.960 --> 01:58:11.560 So just getting zoes, but yeah, when he's trying to weave in and out of the trees. 01:58:11.560 --> 01:58:15.720 And you see the huge AOE, because you see everything he sees as well when you throw that distiller on him. 01:58:15.720 --> 01:58:20.120 It's one of the best items in the game that you can purchase versus NS early. 01:58:21.400 --> 01:58:26.360 Speaking of the NS, Ace, BKB is done, Dark Ascension's available. They also have BKB on Kaz. 01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:29.560 Siv look with Lux for a timing here with these together. 01:58:29.560 --> 01:58:33.880 I mean, at least they definitely will try and look to fight around the road. 01:58:33.880 --> 01:58:36.760 I guess there's not the Paravision enemy super likely to go into the pitch, 01:58:36.760 --> 01:58:40.200 They just don't really kill objectives that quickly. 01:58:41.200 --> 01:58:45.360 They kill them pretty safely with the sustain that they have, but the damage on them is not too crazy. 01:58:45.360 --> 01:58:47.600 We're going to see the sort of smoke up now. 01:58:47.600 --> 01:58:48.760 They have timing also. 01:58:49.280 --> 01:58:52.800 See if no one can get the catch or at least, you know, force out a BKB. 01:58:52.800 --> 01:58:55.600 Yeah, they have double BKB on the two tanky cores. 01:58:55.600 --> 01:58:57.600 Ducalus also has the glimmer cape to protect. 01:58:59.720 --> 01:59:00.840 And the axe, it is done. 01:59:01.200 --> 01:59:02.000 Nine class. 01:59:02.240 --> 01:59:03.440 He's going to spot this whole plant. 01:59:03.440 --> 01:59:07.440 Oh my goodness, you got the angle of the three-man stun and a re-pasturized straight down on a waltz him! 01:59:07.440 --> 01:59:09.440 That's Nisha, how? 01:59:09.440 --> 01:59:10.440 What a beauty. 01:59:10.440 --> 01:59:15.440 I mean, he made that look easy, nine-class. Just stands there, gets a three-man stun. 01:59:16.440 --> 01:59:18.440 Alistar. 01:59:18.440 --> 01:59:24.440 You can't forget the nine classes in the game as an X-Assassin if you're liquid. You really can't because he's going to trip you up like that. 01:59:24.440 --> 01:59:26.440 I can't believe they didn't ban it. We were mentioning... 01:59:26.440 --> 01:59:29.440 Can't believe they didn't ban the X-Assassin in the green room. 01:59:29.440 --> 01:59:32.440 He gets the three-man stun. Nisha was actually having a pretty good game until that point too. 01:59:32.440 --> 01:59:41.320 that point too. I mean the smoke just spells. I was gonna say getting caught like that is 01:59:42.120 --> 01:59:46.760 that's it you know that's it's right it's simply rough you kind of struggle to find excuses for 01:59:46.760 --> 01:59:52.680 that one that was a bit rough because they have the thing is too right they have multiple heroes 01:59:52.680 --> 01:59:56.040 that can stop him from doing this they have instant disabled they have lift and sinister 01:59:56.040 --> 01:59:59.880 games which are non-damage abilities versus heroes but they just were brought into the 01:59:59.880 --> 02:00:03.840 the back line so I they just got caught off guard completely and that cannot 02:00:03.840 --> 02:00:07.440 happen when you're giving this to nine-class I just want to say turning 02:00:07.440 --> 02:00:10.680 now he's chilling he's gonna give the players for the timing to get the BKB 02:00:10.680 --> 02:00:14.960 online and they didn't even have to use their BKBs because they just killed 02:00:14.960 --> 02:00:18.200 everybody immediately and that was liquid with their BKB timing fight 02:00:18.200 --> 02:00:23.680 getting absolutely nothing our vision came in with some very nice 02:00:23.680 --> 02:00:26.720 preparation it's absolutely so showing in these two games nine-class the 02:00:26.720 --> 02:00:30.880 distiller is done now very quickly after the moment 02:00:31.760 --> 02:00:35.840 the liquid just try for that again they go well didn't go too great we'll go for 02:00:35.840 --> 02:00:39.200 another spot now it's his age just so I don't know because that was them I mean 02:00:39.200 --> 02:00:43.840 that was their timing five BKB's and it went absolutely cool so 02:00:44.400 --> 02:00:47.040 not sure what the next timing is gonna be perhaps we're trying to catch them off 02:00:47.040 --> 02:00:50.000 guard but as you've seen power vision is not the ones being caught off guard it's 02:00:50.000 --> 02:00:53.200 liquid it's not too much 02:00:53.200 --> 02:01:02.360 It can be for satanic so hard to see how they can bring him down now level 21 as well three levels over his counterpart 02:01:08.360 --> 02:01:12.700 They did decent at least at recovering things after the miserable starting case 02:01:17.040 --> 02:01:18.540 Every single time 02:01:18.540 --> 02:01:23.700 Yeah, that was rough. I mean in those situations the fact that he's getting the chance to get the vendetta hit off into the stun 02:01:23.700 --> 02:01:28.420 Is there a kind of a world where liquid they have to now be like if I'm getting vendetta'd I got ins to be KV 02:01:28.420 --> 02:01:31.340 It's like we just times. Yeah, it's so fast it comes out 02:01:32.020 --> 02:01:34.020 He's so good at being able to land those 02:01:39.460 --> 02:01:46.020 Very difficult it's not one of the hardest entries into this game and now paravision starting to truly just take over 02:01:48.540 --> 02:01:54.780 And I class again, we're gonna already stalking the dad up at the ready. Oh, yeah, there he goes box 02:01:56.940 --> 02:01:58.940 He just put extra century down 02:01:59.180 --> 02:02:05.140 Even though I already had a say he was that scared and look nine classy forces one two centuries one two three TPs 02:02:06.980 --> 02:02:08.980 And just walk away 02:02:08.980 --> 02:02:19.240 He's going to catch on to Nisha, VKB's will come out ace, who can he find, he's going 02:02:19.240 --> 02:02:23.780 to try and go for no one but the boat's already out down on a tofu. 02:02:23.780 --> 02:02:26.700 And Satanic is ready to join him from the side, tofu's gone. 02:02:26.700 --> 02:02:27.700 Nisha, he jumped in. 02:02:27.700 --> 02:02:34.100 Ah, could he jump back out, the mines are down, he will get the chance to blink away. 02:02:34.100 --> 02:02:37.540 So Nisha will live but the rest of Liquid aren't having a whole lot of fun with this 02:02:37.540 --> 02:02:43.220 Necrophos chasing them down. He's just walking at them. They have to just get out of it. 02:02:44.500 --> 02:02:48.980 The boxy. He's not going to get the chance to, yeah, Chakram comes in. 02:02:50.820 --> 02:02:56.340 They killed Ninecloth. At least they got that pesky pesky Nix assassin. They couldn't get anything 02:02:56.340 --> 02:03:00.660 else. No, no one able to just distance himself from away. Nisha almost finished him. It was 02:03:00.660 --> 02:03:04.260 actually quite close, but not able to. Nisha had to jump away, otherwise he'll just die. 02:03:04.260 --> 02:03:08.260 Titanic is literally untouchable. 02:03:12.260 --> 02:03:16.260 Hey this hero, I mean it's been insane right now it's going to be a 70% win rate if I'm not mistaken. 02:03:16.260 --> 02:03:18.260 Exactly, the stats back, good yeah. 02:03:18.260 --> 02:03:21.260 It was 66% before this game with 9 games though. 02:03:22.260 --> 02:03:25.260 So many times it just completely take over the game right? 02:03:25.260 --> 02:03:26.260 It does. 02:03:26.260 --> 02:03:32.260 And this game as well, you know, say Titanic, he did have a couple of deaths but we're kind of, you know, him getting a bit too ahead of himself. 02:03:32.260 --> 02:03:33.260 It just, it didn't matter though. 02:03:33.260 --> 02:03:38.500 It did not matter those two rough deaths this game did not get slowed down because the thing is the hero farms so fast 02:03:38.500 --> 02:03:41.140 So even if you do die you gotta mess up and still be okay 02:03:42.180 --> 02:03:46.780 Farms editing the same case and the pressure really on all fronts just paravision. Yep 02:03:48.060 --> 02:03:50.060 Playing this draft quite beautifully 02:03:51.020 --> 02:03:54.100 Couldn't have asked for a better start noticed a full she was now for him 02:03:56.500 --> 02:03:58.500 How do you take a fight? 02:03:58.500 --> 02:04:04.500 I'll drop the Chain Frost. 02:04:04.500 --> 02:04:07.500 Now the X mark's now on to him. 02:04:07.500 --> 02:04:08.500 He's gone. 02:04:08.500 --> 02:04:12.300 Chain Frost, of course, being one of the higher damage spells in the game, but when you're 02:04:12.300 --> 02:04:15.500 this far behind, they have lots of ways to play around it. 02:04:15.500 --> 02:04:20.500 We'll be able to X his buddy back, so Timber doesn't have to fully go back to base. 02:04:20.500 --> 02:04:22.500 Can't look too reset. 02:04:22.500 --> 02:04:29.500 Nisha? Show them some support with the orb. They might try to go for the play here. 02:04:29.500 --> 02:04:33.500 Knight class knows there's vision in the area. 02:04:33.500 --> 02:04:35.500 I love you. 02:04:39.500 --> 02:04:43.500 Come on, get caught out with the push. It's coming in onto the tier 2 top. 02:04:47.500 --> 02:04:52.460 Liquid, they're trying to farm for these next items, but as we said, the timing for them was around that 02:04:52.460 --> 02:04:56.620 BKB, and they're just completely caught, and I think it's gonna try and fight him. 02:04:57.620 --> 02:05:01.720 It's gonna wall's no test, but notice, got the BKB in the ready, Ace is gonna jump over towards the back lines, 02:05:01.720 --> 02:05:06.380 he's found nine class, he wants to digs, assassin for nine class, he's out of the range of the silence, he's gonna be fine! 02:05:06.380 --> 02:05:07.160 That's just beating. 02:05:07.160 --> 02:05:11.040 The Coyle's gonna get dropped down, the State Tanks happening, they able to just down this ground, 02:05:11.040 --> 02:05:16.880 even though he's Coyle, he doesn't care, Scythe comes down onto Ace, Ace goes down, they really want to kill this Pimba Stomp, 02:05:16.880 --> 02:05:21.040 but they just can't notice surviving, boxy at the tip of the chain away, 02:05:21.040 --> 02:05:24.480 but he dies to the damage that's being burnt out by this necrophos. 02:05:24.480 --> 02:05:26.240 Double kill for Static. 02:05:26.240 --> 02:05:28.400 They will finally kill notice, 02:05:28.400 --> 02:05:31.440 but overall it's just going to be Static cleaning up again. 02:05:31.440 --> 02:05:32.720 Triple kill for him. 02:05:33.280 --> 02:05:34.480 They can't touch him. 02:05:34.480 --> 02:05:36.000 He literally is untouchable. 02:05:39.920 --> 02:05:43.360 Very close to his 25 now, up to the back of that fight. 02:05:43.360 --> 02:05:49.820 And Ace, he tries to jump backline, tries to kill the next assassin, but he just pops the Vendetta in between, gets a disengage. 02:05:49.820 --> 02:05:52.700 Even the Techies almost is able to disengage and get out too. 02:05:53.900 --> 02:05:55.900 Great defensive play coming up, a paravision. 02:05:56.600 --> 02:05:59.000 And so, Tanya, you can just keep walking down the lanes. 02:05:59.800 --> 02:06:02.100 Nothing scares him right now. 02:06:02.100 --> 02:06:06.200 Even if he, I think even if he's full isolated at this point, he just survives. 02:06:06.400 --> 02:06:08.900 This much HP regen with the BKB at the ready. 02:06:13.360 --> 02:06:19.000 And I class continue to be pesky always stalking Nisha. His bombs in the area 02:06:20.280 --> 02:06:22.280 Put a damage from these 02:06:22.320 --> 02:06:25.680 Release some of the sections for the football telekinesis on top so Nisha will be safe 02:06:26.080 --> 02:06:27.680 And I can box too 02:06:27.680 --> 02:06:30.880 Time for start running even faster at them jumping on top of his allies 02:06:35.560 --> 02:06:39.060 Nice play there from little little play from Nisha boxy at least to protect him 02:06:39.060 --> 02:06:44.060 25 has been hit. See which one he takes, because Wits has been taking it the right. 02:06:44.060 --> 02:06:48.060 He takes actually all opposite ones as Wits that I've seen, except for the 10 Talon. 02:06:48.060 --> 02:06:50.060 So pretty interesting. And different with the build as well, right? 02:06:50.060 --> 02:06:54.060 Yep, Wits doesn't get the axe early. Yeah, Wits took the whole heal, and he took the regen reduction, 02:06:54.060 --> 02:06:57.060 and then he took the re-precise damage missing both games that I saw. 02:06:57.060 --> 02:07:02.060 Both games, the Necroforce, absolutely crushing. It's just showing the versatility of this hero. 02:07:02.060 --> 02:07:04.580 Mhm. Nisha being stalked again. 02:07:06.860 --> 02:07:07.660 Bosh two. 02:07:08.780 --> 02:07:09.980 It's enough, I thought. 02:07:12.380 --> 02:07:14.580 It also feels like the perfect fit with this team, 02:07:14.580 --> 02:07:16.420 because they play these heroes like Nix, right? 02:07:16.420 --> 02:07:20.180 It just feels like it does do so much when he's able to go for boots to travel eventually. 02:07:20.180 --> 02:07:22.980 There's constant map pressure, constant map information. 02:07:26.460 --> 02:07:27.860 Looking, uh, looking rough. 02:07:27.860 --> 02:07:28.860 Yeah, for liquid. Not... 02:07:30.020 --> 02:07:31.140 Not an easy day for them. 02:07:31.140 --> 02:07:33.140 Today does seem that 02:07:33.820 --> 02:07:37.140 The approach that they turned up with today against paravision 02:07:38.220 --> 02:07:42.460 Didn't seem to be the approach well now and this game in particular right started on hard mode 02:07:43.380 --> 02:07:45.820 Perhaps from the trap but also from the level one play 02:07:48.460 --> 02:07:50.460 Tower see here 02:07:53.100 --> 02:07:56.580 Don't even need the ages they can just push forward as he said panic is 02:07:57.460 --> 02:07:59.460 until 02:08:01.140 --> 02:08:05.400 Can I just walk a bit? 02:08:05.400 --> 02:08:06.560 Pose the question to Liquid. 02:08:06.560 --> 02:08:07.560 What's your answer? 02:08:07.560 --> 02:08:18.080 Next, we'll start doing the hunting, because I appreciate they identified Mika is not in 02:08:18.080 --> 02:08:20.520 the base, so they can't look to find him on the sides. 02:08:20.520 --> 02:08:21.680 They have the bots too. 02:08:21.680 --> 02:08:26.960 No Reaper for 20 seconds, but... 02:08:26.960 --> 02:08:29.960 Liquid. 02:08:29.960 --> 02:08:34.960 Very dangerous place to go into the game. 02:08:34.960 --> 02:08:44.960 Gonna go on an ah yes straight away no system, stay tannic, moves up, liquid the pot, the 02:08:44.960 --> 02:08:48.960 BKBs are starting to back up, they're at least having to put stay tannic up on the clip. 02:08:48.960 --> 02:08:52.960 The 9th class, he's got the yule set up, into the stun, onto A's. 02:08:52.960 --> 02:08:54.960 And there's the tannic anyway, bots two are up. 02:08:54.960 --> 02:08:57.600 She's got the Reaper at the ready. 02:08:57.600 --> 02:08:59.760 She's just gonna go for it onto Boxy. 02:08:59.760 --> 02:09:02.960 How can he just at least give him that little bit of safety? 02:09:02.960 --> 02:09:04.960 The creeps are pushing him! 02:09:04.960 --> 02:09:06.960 Swing over towards the mid-light! 02:09:06.960 --> 02:09:08.960 They just jump in right, notice. 02:09:08.960 --> 02:09:10.960 He sees them for a split second right on top of their faces. 02:09:10.960 --> 02:09:12.960 Causes panic. 02:09:12.960 --> 02:09:14.960 Nice paravision, looking to close this one out. 02:09:14.960 --> 02:09:16.960 No damage. 02:09:16.960 --> 02:09:17.960 Wait, look at that. 02:09:17.960 --> 02:09:19.960 It's helpful for liquids, especially at this point. 02:09:19.960 --> 02:09:21.960 Unable to touch paravision. 02:09:21.960 --> 02:09:31.960 Ah, see, he's uh, living on the airship and um, likely not gonna be living much longer. 02:09:31.960 --> 02:09:38.000 As that's boxy gone, Mikkei's gonna try and fight back here with the BKB, he might just 02:09:38.000 --> 02:09:39.480 get to Carlos, he does. 02:09:39.480 --> 02:09:42.120 Now get A kill, can he get out though? 02:09:42.120 --> 02:09:47.160 The BKB comes to an end, and it was 9 glass, 9 glass will also fall, Mikkei kind of doing 02:09:47.160 --> 02:09:50.040 it here, can he get more, he's on to notice. 02:09:50.040 --> 02:09:53.120 Mikkei, keeping the game alive potentially for Liquid. 02:09:53.120 --> 02:09:54.460 Is the Reaper available? 02:09:55.300 --> 02:09:57.780 It's not enough damage to kill Mikkei though, Mikkei's fine. 02:09:58.100 --> 02:10:02.180 The same tactic as BKB is about to come to an end, Misha's gonna jump forward. 02:10:02.180 --> 02:10:04.780 They come in with the damage and the sides don't get him as well. 02:10:04.780 --> 02:10:07.380 No one with the controller, no one! Mikkei, go in it! 02:10:07.380 --> 02:10:08.060 Oh wow. 02:10:08.060 --> 02:10:08.880 Alright. 02:10:09.460 --> 02:10:12.340 Mikkei says this game ain't over yet, he's not done with it. 02:10:12.340 --> 02:10:15.780 A paravision diving pretty far forward there, ignoring him. 02:10:15.780 --> 02:10:18.940 He does end up surviving. Look at the damage he was able to deal. 02:10:18.940 --> 02:10:20.440 He literally was completely ignored. 02:10:21.640 --> 02:10:22.640 Alright, Mica. 02:10:22.740 --> 02:10:24.840 He needs to do insane amount of lifting here. 02:10:24.840 --> 02:10:26.440 Can he turn this game around? 02:10:26.440 --> 02:10:30.140 He just gave us a pretty good show and he's got a case for it. 02:10:30.540 --> 02:10:31.640 He got the flank, right? 02:10:31.640 --> 02:10:33.740 He got the backline first, then he comes here. 02:10:33.740 --> 02:10:35.840 Starts to build up versus these tanky heroes. 02:10:36.140 --> 02:10:37.840 Quite impressive that he's able to do this. 02:10:38.440 --> 02:10:41.040 Especially with the BKB used earlier, right? 02:10:42.540 --> 02:10:43.540 He did this very nicely. 02:10:44.340 --> 02:10:46.240 And we get back into 9th class with this fight. 02:10:46.240 --> 02:10:48.140 Cap, this came to an end at this point. 02:10:48.940 --> 02:10:54.100 He does have to damage to bring down even the tankier targets and stay tanned as soon as this PKB was gone 02:10:54.940 --> 02:10:57.100 You know you knew that they were gonna chase on it 02:10:57.100 --> 02:11:03.060 Just not enough burst to quite get in there with a repuss. Oh and they get nine class and now we're getting into them 02:11:03.060 --> 02:11:06.980 They're getting your own shot level 25 has been hit through the cares. All right 02:11:07.180 --> 02:11:12.020 We will be so in game one liquid did have sort of that little bit of a kickback 02:11:12.020 --> 02:11:16.220 They did before they did then inevitably lose the game, but they got a pretty big 02:11:16.220 --> 02:11:18.460 Just one hit, pick a rush. 02:11:18.460 --> 02:11:20.380 Yeah, I absolutely agree. 02:11:20.380 --> 02:11:21.900 It really is. 02:11:21.900 --> 02:11:23.520 And they've got at least the glimmers too, right? 02:11:23.520 --> 02:11:25.420 Some defensive things they can throw onto Mickey 02:11:25.420 --> 02:11:27.220 so he can survive versus the reaper. 02:11:28.940 --> 02:11:30.140 Hey, that reaper, right? 02:11:30.140 --> 02:11:31.500 Perhaps if it was the right talent, 02:11:31.500 --> 02:11:33.700 would it have been enough to kill Mickey? 02:11:33.700 --> 02:11:34.700 I don't know how the maps work, 02:11:34.700 --> 02:11:36.620 like how much of a difference does it end up being 02:11:36.620 --> 02:11:38.220 the 0.3 player HP, right? 02:11:38.220 --> 02:11:39.060 Like it would have been close. 02:11:39.060 --> 02:11:39.900 Let's have a look. 02:11:39.900 --> 02:11:42.060 So he's got the 3K HP, so say it was about 1,500. 02:11:42.060 --> 02:11:44.900 So 1,500 times 0.3, that's, 02:11:44.900 --> 02:11:45.740 Was he mage-flared? 02:11:45.740 --> 02:11:46.240 400... 02:11:46.660 --> 02:11:47.620 No, I see what that's. 02:11:48.420 --> 02:11:50.940 I mean, it's hard to do the mage-flared too, so... 02:11:50.940 --> 02:11:51.740 I mean, either way, whatever. 02:11:51.740 --> 02:11:52.240 I would do it. 02:11:52.240 --> 02:11:53.680 I think it would've been like 400 more damage. 02:11:53.680 --> 02:11:55.720 So, a couple hundred more damage. 02:11:55.720 --> 02:11:57.100 I don't think he would've lived. 02:11:57.100 --> 02:11:59.460 Yeah, I think he would've still been 5 of the buffs given for his team match, yeah. 02:11:59.460 --> 02:12:00.700 He got glimmered too, so... 02:12:00.700 --> 02:12:02.100 I mean, this is pretty massive for Luglund. 02:12:02.100 --> 02:12:05.420 Being able to do this, deny the Aegis with oil, prevent the push. 02:12:05.420 --> 02:12:10.420 Paravision could've maybe just gone for Raxanus, but they went for kills, pushing forward, get punished massively. 02:12:12.260 --> 02:12:13.760 That's not a good life, at least for Mikkei. 02:12:13.760 --> 02:12:17.960 Of course, the other two cores are still really struggling, but all they really have to do is enable it. 02:12:17.960 --> 02:12:18.460 Yeah. 02:12:18.460 --> 02:12:19.560 Got no fire for Ace. 02:12:19.560 --> 02:12:20.760 They can make the space attack. 02:12:20.760 --> 02:12:21.260 Uh... 02:12:21.260 --> 02:12:22.260 Oh my god. 02:12:22.760 --> 02:12:24.260 Shut up for McCage, well. 02:12:25.260 --> 02:12:25.960 It's nice. 02:12:25.960 --> 02:12:27.460 Anything you can do to buff them up. 02:12:31.560 --> 02:12:33.760 I mean, how much of a shakeup is that for Paravision? 02:12:33.760 --> 02:12:37.760 Is it the case of they're like, well, we'll wait until the Aegis is expired before we'll push high ground again? 02:12:39.760 --> 02:12:40.260 I think they still... 02:12:40.260 --> 02:12:41.760 Or they don't need to be scared of the Aegis. 02:12:41.760 --> 02:12:45.200 I think they still play the similar game where 9 classes hunting, looking for the pick offs. 02:12:45.200 --> 02:12:50.000 But yeah, I think they'll play a little bit more patient in terms of just recklessly running into high ground versus the Sage just now at this point. 02:12:50.000 --> 02:12:52.080 They probably thought that they had the game in the bag, completely. 02:12:52.080 --> 02:12:52.960 I think they did. 02:12:52.960 --> 02:12:54.320 I think they certainly did. 02:12:54.320 --> 02:12:56.960 And Liquid now, gotta be the ones to go all the way up to Grashen. 02:12:58.800 --> 02:13:03.040 They gotta be ready to react though, so someone like 9 class, fighting out this monk. 02:13:03.040 --> 02:13:05.840 Yeah, that was... I mean, they cannot have that happen again, from earlier. 02:13:08.960 --> 02:13:10.160 Let's see what they can get here. 02:13:10.160 --> 02:13:12.800 Remember the wrap, Scan's been hit though. 02:13:12.800 --> 02:13:16.120 Paraphasion know that something's coming in from this angle. 02:13:16.120 --> 02:13:17.120 Ward's placed. 02:13:17.120 --> 02:13:19.280 Satanic in the front line. 02:13:19.280 --> 02:13:21.280 Do they want to jump the necrophos? 02:13:21.280 --> 02:13:23.400 Might as well get this top. 02:13:23.400 --> 02:13:24.400 No, look towards notice first. 02:13:24.400 --> 02:13:26.400 He has an agonist. 02:13:26.400 --> 02:13:28.400 The barrier off for now. 02:13:28.400 --> 02:13:29.400 He's shot. 02:13:29.400 --> 02:13:30.400 Fall by the silence. 02:13:30.400 --> 02:13:32.880 Some protection here with the yule step to satanic. 02:13:32.880 --> 02:13:35.880 Trying to move up, but McKay's going to focus towards him first. 02:13:35.880 --> 02:13:36.880 Push rounds there. 02:13:36.880 --> 02:13:38.880 McKay's falling kind of low, but of course does have the stages. 02:13:38.880 --> 02:13:43.280 So he can burst through the once, Mikkei's actually able to get the ult up, live a little longer, 02:13:43.280 --> 02:13:45.880 Spike Harapus is there though, that's the Aegis gone out of Mikkei. 02:13:45.880 --> 02:13:48.880 They did poke him down pretty effectively. 02:13:48.880 --> 02:13:49.880 Liquid. 02:13:49.880 --> 02:13:51.880 He's not the one to try and chase on. 02:13:51.880 --> 02:13:52.880 Sotanix still has BKB. 02:13:52.880 --> 02:13:54.880 They're gonna get the lift up onto him. 02:13:54.880 --> 02:13:55.880 He's holding his BKB. 02:13:55.880 --> 02:13:58.880 They're chasing pretty far now Liquid, they might have chased a bit too much. 02:13:58.880 --> 02:14:01.880 Gonna look to try and turn this to decent shape Frost. 02:14:01.880 --> 02:14:04.880 But still the damage will come in and allows him to bring down Tofu. 02:14:04.880 --> 02:14:07.880 Bokki is not gonna get to TP out of this. 02:14:07.880 --> 02:14:10.120 And nine plus, you've got the Yulestan upon a Mikay! 02:14:10.880 --> 02:14:13.880 Mikay will drag himself away, power vision hot on the chase. 02:14:14.380 --> 02:14:15.880 They have to run, Nisha also. 02:14:17.680 --> 02:14:18.720 We'll be able to get away. 02:14:18.720 --> 02:14:19.880 Chase too far there. 02:14:20.580 --> 02:14:22.880 All the way to the tier two, end up getting turned on. 02:14:22.880 --> 02:14:25.580 Mikay has to be careful how far he chases forward. 02:14:25.580 --> 02:14:28.380 Gotta do this defense now without Bogsy dead for a minute, no. 02:14:28.380 --> 02:14:29.380 Pry back on the ruby. 02:14:29.380 --> 02:14:30.380 Instant smoke. 02:14:30.380 --> 02:14:30.880 No one. 02:14:31.580 --> 02:14:32.880 Boat at the run in ten seconds. 02:14:33.580 --> 02:14:34.880 Okay, back for the buildings. 02:14:34.880 --> 02:14:43.880 2 heroes killed. Still whatever they can here. Trying to hold paravision back. 02:14:46.880 --> 02:14:49.880 And they're in. Ace is going to try and commit straight away over towards the Necrophos. 02:14:49.880 --> 02:14:53.880 If they can burst through the side it's not into him. They can't even be scorned! 02:14:53.880 --> 02:14:54.880 No BKB. 02:14:54.880 --> 02:14:56.880 Can Mcki get out. BKB comes to an end. 02:14:56.880 --> 02:15:00.880 The Necrophos gone. That's a pretty big fear of them eliminated. 02:15:00.880 --> 02:15:04.160 Okay, but that's not it, that's what it is, he gets creeped up and we get the ULTZ off! 02:15:04.160 --> 02:15:05.160 Miki is cleaning up! 02:15:05.160 --> 02:15:08.700 He's not ever to jump out though, the timing there was perfect for 9 class landing the 02:15:08.700 --> 02:15:10.600 stem as he came down. 02:15:10.600 --> 02:15:14.400 But Miki, immediately one-shotting two heroes. 02:15:14.400 --> 02:15:18.320 He wants to get this gem picked up, he wants us to be able to get back in and get that. 02:15:18.320 --> 02:15:20.600 And Miki, truly delivering the damage there. 02:15:20.600 --> 02:15:21.600 Tofu? 02:15:21.600 --> 02:15:22.600 Tofu? 02:15:22.600 --> 02:15:23.600 Tofu? 02:15:23.600 --> 02:15:24.600 Tofu? 02:15:24.600 --> 02:15:25.600 Tofu? 02:15:25.600 --> 02:15:26.600 Tofu? 02:15:26.600 --> 02:15:27.600 Tofu? 02:15:27.600 --> 02:15:28.600 Tofu? 02:15:28.600 --> 02:15:29.600 Tofu? 02:15:29.600 --> 02:15:30.600 Tofu? 02:15:30.600 --> 02:15:35.480 He's got the Glimmer, he's going to, oh maybe he can survive with the help of Mikkei and Mikkei! 02:15:35.480 --> 02:15:39.440 Clumsden and make sure the 12-room whilst he may die! 02:15:39.440 --> 02:15:41.240 Mikkei's gonna make them pay for it! 02:15:41.240 --> 02:15:44.440 There's gonna be the TP out front notice, he'll get out with the BKB! 02:15:44.440 --> 02:15:46.360 Mikkei, clean up 9-clots! 02:15:46.360 --> 02:15:49.240 This Kaz is starting to really dish out the damage. 02:15:49.240 --> 02:15:51.160 He's carrying hard here, Mikkei. 02:15:51.160 --> 02:15:54.120 And so Tannik, he did spend his gold before that fight. 02:15:54.120 --> 02:15:58.360 I think maybe they were perhaps thinking about some type of buyback play, but did not have the gold for it. 02:15:58.360 --> 02:16:05.360 He is doing insane work right now. He has to spend his gold, goes for the full satanic, buys out the aggs, 02:16:05.360 --> 02:16:11.360 starting to have more and more survivability. This is very impressive that Liquid's been able to do this. 02:16:11.360 --> 02:16:20.360 Yeah, absolutely. Considering how far behind they were, the fact now that Micae's only 3k behind that at the farm of satanix Necrophos, 02:16:20.360 --> 02:16:22.360 he is doing everything here on the gas. 02:16:22.360 --> 02:16:24.360 He absolutely can do it. 02:16:24.360 --> 02:16:30.360 Whenever this hero does get to these points, you just see, I mean, no one, I think he got like an effectively one shot. 02:16:30.360 --> 02:16:33.360 I couldn't believe how fast he died on a conco there. 02:16:33.360 --> 02:16:36.360 Even with the AC, just got shredded. 02:16:36.360 --> 02:16:39.360 Look at that. Look at how quick the damage went out too. 02:16:39.360 --> 02:16:42.360 Yeah, massive amounts of burst here on the Echo Slash. 02:16:46.360 --> 02:16:50.360 I'm looking much more difficult now for Paravis, just straight up close things out. 02:16:50.360 --> 02:16:53.360 Can have to be a bit more careful about how they consider the next play. 02:16:53.360 --> 02:16:55.640 to perhaps think about how they want to protect Satanic. 02:16:55.640 --> 02:16:56.760 If he doesn't have BKB, right, 02:16:56.760 --> 02:16:58.000 they have to have something at the ready 02:16:58.000 --> 02:16:59.360 to get him out of the nullifier, 02:16:59.360 --> 02:17:02.240 to get him out of the spear from the night stalker, 02:17:02.240 --> 02:17:03.840 get him right on top of them. 02:17:05.680 --> 02:17:06.680 I didn't see if they were going for any, 02:17:06.680 --> 02:17:08.800 like Wind Waker or anything, but... 02:17:08.800 --> 02:17:09.640 Nanklas? 02:17:09.640 --> 02:17:12.400 He's gonna get that, so that's why we try to... 02:17:12.400 --> 02:17:13.880 One of the best to kill him. 02:17:13.880 --> 02:17:15.360 He's got one more flare. 02:17:15.360 --> 02:17:16.200 He is? 02:17:16.200 --> 02:17:19.080 Yeah, okay, they were thinking about bringing Satanic up. 02:17:19.080 --> 02:17:19.920 One more flare. 02:17:19.920 --> 02:17:21.440 And indeed, Nanklas says, 02:17:21.440 --> 02:17:24.440 Don't worry, Static. You don't need to join me. I've got this on my own. 02:17:24.440 --> 02:17:27.940 That's why Distiller is such a damn good item, especially on these heroes. 02:17:28.940 --> 02:17:34.740 Love it on the Rubik and the Knicks. Just having that Byzantine, this Eel Nuke, etc. Absolutely seeing how good it is. 02:17:34.740 --> 02:17:43.240 There's a minute without Tofu, and he has been quite a big part of getting the damage done, at least to kind of eliminate one hero from the fight with the Chain Cross plays, so... 02:17:44.240 --> 02:17:47.140 Liquid still does need every little thing to come together for them. 02:17:47.140 --> 02:17:54.020 They have vision they know it so whilst there's no glitch in the game 02:17:54.340 --> 02:17:56.340 They'll be quick to try and poke it 02:17:57.180 --> 02:18:02.380 Have a hex what I'm laying never hacks into colors. This could be a game ending hacks if they get the cat on Mickey 02:18:04.140 --> 02:18:08.180 Could be very abrupt on Tunisia, okay, just showing 02:18:10.060 --> 02:18:14.260 There's the hex they have the follow-up they do into the star but the telegeist is coming there to drag it back to safety 02:18:14.260 --> 02:18:18.260 Great save from Boxing. Dreamcourt down on towards Satanic. 02:18:18.260 --> 02:18:20.260 The boat. 02:18:21.260 --> 02:18:24.260 A bit cautious still. Is the BKB ready to press? 02:18:24.260 --> 02:18:25.260 They're trying to poke it. 02:18:25.260 --> 02:18:27.260 See what Mika wants to go for. 02:18:27.260 --> 02:18:29.260 It's going to look towards Nautis. It's the science on to him. 02:18:29.260 --> 02:18:31.260 Now they turn towards the Necropos. Now the fire down on to Mika. 02:18:31.260 --> 02:18:33.260 He's trying to commit on towards the Satanic Necropos, 02:18:33.260 --> 02:18:35.260 but he's able to pull himself away with the Shrek. 02:18:35.260 --> 02:18:38.260 Mika taking huge buzz, but is the BKB off? 02:18:38.260 --> 02:18:41.260 He'll be able to take down Nautis with the Echo slashes. 02:18:41.260 --> 02:18:42.260 Three dead. 02:18:42.260 --> 02:18:49.780 No one super close to getting hit there holding nicely a liquid again the racks 02:18:49.780 --> 02:18:53.360 not even being able to get claimed a great defensive lift there from boxy 02:18:53.360 --> 02:18:57.200 knowing that they might go for the all in on to Mickey there is able to reset a 02:18:57.200 --> 02:19:02.240 bit of a chance now maybe for liquid to push back so power vision side of the 02:19:02.240 --> 02:19:06.080 map ace now having an AC right all looking at all these things to pop up 02:19:06.080 --> 02:19:09.080 make an ax on tofu and he finds an ant damage 02:19:14.080 --> 02:19:20.080 oh i was looking at nine classes items a bit interesting but i don't know i think he's gonna fall like a heart or something on his next exercise 02:19:21.080 --> 02:19:24.080 okay that's definitely weird what's uh what's the tech there 02:19:24.080 --> 02:19:29.080 i don't know i think they thought that they were gonna be causing the game and now he has an awkward item in his inventory but 02:19:30.080 --> 02:19:33.080 liquid hitting the tier two 02:19:36.080 --> 02:19:40.080 Well they put the BKB there at the same time. Was that a threat or was that a misclick? 02:19:40.080 --> 02:19:46.080 That's really dangerous too, 97. They don't know it, but if they do get the jump on him they could just 100 to zero him now too. 02:19:46.080 --> 02:19:52.080 Paravision with some pretty big flip-ups in this game, Liquid taking advantage of it beautifully with Mickey. 02:19:54.080 --> 02:20:01.080 Mickey continued to spend the gold out, looking for the Lincoln snacks to potentially catch off guard, blocking a hex or a reaper. 02:20:02.080 --> 02:20:04.080 It's not a finished. 02:20:06.080 --> 02:20:11.680 No more mage slayer for him though, so quite a bit more magic damage is gonna be dealt to him in the fights. He's not careful 02:20:15.720 --> 02:20:21.200 But that next timing now power vision absolutely have to think about that Roshan after these last two comebacks from liquid 02:20:22.560 --> 02:20:24.560 Have to be very careful in this area 02:20:24.560 --> 02:20:40.180 Did also see no one almost level 25, so I did see that tide bringer and he's 25 that 02:20:40.180 --> 02:20:44.000 tide bringer also make it does have to be slightly cautious of it did chunk him down 02:20:44.000 --> 02:20:48.640 and that's true that last fight a lot he did get burst pretty long I was like oh my god 02:20:48.640 --> 02:20:52.800 I thought it might actually kill himself those have to be super careful still has to play 02:20:52.800 --> 02:20:58.800 pretty perfect on Mikkei. Nice last. This up. 02:21:01.800 --> 02:21:04.800 Nice move he actually can get out of me, but see straight away a lot of damage. 02:21:04.800 --> 02:21:08.800 Jason's gonna put the ult in for the jump, but he gets caught by the heck straight away. 02:21:08.800 --> 02:21:11.800 Ult him back a little bit. It's a BKB, who's the Paul? 02:21:11.800 --> 02:21:12.800 Top ult. 02:21:12.800 --> 02:21:15.800 Got to get the time there with the chain frost coming down as well as the spy, 02:21:15.800 --> 02:21:18.800 and that's gonna be noticed. Go on, stay tight. He has to put the BKB and run, 02:21:18.800 --> 02:21:20.800 but Mikkei's on top of it. 02:21:20.800 --> 02:21:22.800 He's dead, he's focusing down the Necrofost. 02:21:22.800 --> 02:21:26.800 Glimmer will buy a little safe seat for Static, allows him to get away from Mikkei. 02:21:26.800 --> 02:21:30.800 No, it just comes straight away and with the buyback, the burst and the Echo Slash cut through to Carlos. 02:21:30.800 --> 02:21:33.800 Because Mikkei's dead, the guard of Panic's gone. 02:21:33.800 --> 02:21:38.800 He gets killed off, the damage too much right now from this Kez for Paraphezion to deal with. 02:21:38.800 --> 02:21:43.800 And they burst him, they cannot. Mikkei's perfectly fine, double kill for the Kez. 02:21:43.800 --> 02:21:45.800 Notice he bought back for this play. 02:21:45.800 --> 02:21:46.800 play! 02:21:46.800 --> 02:21:47.800 Static buying bastard! 02:21:47.800 --> 02:21:50.800 Gonna be the big buybacks coming in from Paravision, they have to just bail out of Illiquid 02:21:50.800 --> 02:21:54.200 if they can get everybody out, they're gonna be very happy with this one! 02:21:54.200 --> 02:21:57.440 Oh, Micke gets the blink out as well. 02:21:57.440 --> 02:22:00.120 So many buybacks use Paravision, they're getting outplayed. 02:22:00.120 --> 02:22:03.080 They really are. 02:22:03.080 --> 02:22:06.840 Beautiful pull from Tofu, Chain Frost onto two, while Micke comes in and gets the clean 02:22:06.840 --> 02:22:11.560 up, they have to use the BKB super early and defensively, such a turn around, such a come 02:22:11.560 --> 02:22:15.480 back here from Illiquid, I mean, it does seem to be a bit of a liquid thing, we've seen 02:22:15.480 --> 02:22:20.520 it before it is the first series of the day like the first game sometimes not 02:22:20.520 --> 02:22:25.520 too great that game to can be a little rough until until they let and until 02:22:25.520 --> 02:22:27.880 they kind of would have turned around like this it was all right liquid there 02:22:27.880 --> 02:22:31.800 took him up at a time but they're turning up and it took and they're taking 02:22:31.800 --> 02:22:35.080 advantage of a bit of these pretty big flip-flops from Paravision going for the 02:22:35.080 --> 02:22:38.160 dive play earlier but also your ninth class his items just look I don't know 02:22:38.160 --> 02:22:41.760 this is so weird that he's gone for this now it actually really hurts he's got a 02:22:41.760 --> 02:22:45.200 heart recipe ring a terrorist you know what I mean like this is just 02:22:45.200 --> 02:22:49.920 strange at this point now. I mean if one of the best nix assassins is by and hard 02:22:49.920 --> 02:22:53.360 in the world is by and hard maybe I've got to stop by and hard on my nix assassins. 02:22:53.360 --> 02:22:56.800 I think it was because he was so far ahead. He was thinking with the carapace kind of plays 02:22:56.800 --> 02:23:00.160 but now it's all looking very dangerous. This is liquid. 02:23:03.040 --> 02:23:05.920 They get by far the strongest here on the map now and they're going to get another 02:23:05.920 --> 02:23:10.640 Roshan after all these two crazy damage in these fights. And they just can't control it. 02:23:10.640 --> 02:23:13.680 They can't knock him down. He's all over the place. 02:23:15.200 --> 02:23:19.040 Everyone's started to pick up so much gold that they all have ways to disrupt 02:23:20.160 --> 02:23:23.920 Paravision and it allows Mickey to run rampant in the fights beyond gods like now 02:23:26.760 --> 02:23:29.080 And a hex also for bosses, I got it 02:23:29.960 --> 02:23:32.760 It has been a 20 something thousand gold swing 02:23:33.200 --> 02:23:37.960 They can absolutely see the frustration on Paravision and the happiness for Nisha. Yeah 02:23:37.960 --> 02:23:47.440 out. Insane recovery. One of the most insane drops on a graph I think we've seen in quite 02:23:47.440 --> 02:23:58.160 some time. They even give the Aegis to Nisha, so Mika feeling like he's probably just going 02:23:58.160 --> 02:24:05.120 to survive has a cheese as well. I mean, will he get the chance to finish it off on the 02:24:05.120 --> 02:24:08.720 I mean he's gonna buy it too. I guess he is just gonna buy it because it's made it for him. 02:24:08.720 --> 02:24:10.520 I mean it's probably his bill too, you know, it's like... 02:24:10.520 --> 02:24:14.020 I mean it's definitely one of his bills that you hope your allies aren't clicking on you, it's like... 02:24:14.020 --> 02:24:16.520 Nobody noticed that I'm building a heart, please. 02:24:19.720 --> 02:24:25.520 But yeah, the game definitely falling into a place that Paravision I think we're not expecting. 02:24:25.520 --> 02:24:28.720 No, no, it's... I mean now they're the ones that's actually just effectively behind. 02:24:28.720 --> 02:24:31.520 Not because of the gold or anything like that, but just how their heroes function, 02:24:31.520 --> 02:24:33.220 versus a Kaz and versus a Puck. 02:24:33.220 --> 02:24:38.260 Things have completely changed and instead the supports they're massive on the side of liquid now 02:24:39.540 --> 02:24:46.220 So execution for paravision has to just be better than liquid now at this point for them to have a chance first in this case 02:24:49.340 --> 02:24:51.300 You can see the way that they're trapped in the base too 02:24:51.300 --> 02:24:56.500 They did use a lot of buybacks in that last situation so the game could just end they make one more mistake on paravision now 02:24:56.500 --> 02:25:09.860 I'm sure so many people are watching being like this, 02:25:09.860 --> 02:25:14.660 I'm a KES hero, how does he do this from this step of deficit? 02:25:14.660 --> 02:25:18.380 But it has been all of liquid rallied around him, we said he needed to do the damage and 02:25:18.380 --> 02:25:19.860 somehow he was able to. 02:25:19.860 --> 02:25:24.300 Yeah, yeah, Micah is uh, he was never worried this game, you know, he's like, guys it's fine 02:25:24.300 --> 02:25:30.660 We'll be okay. I don't know about it. That's why he's telling them and you know what maybe maybe he would have been right 02:25:30.660 --> 02:25:34.620 It's looking good friend tofu now having a refresher shard, too 02:25:34.620 --> 02:25:40.520 So they effectively have that double blue hole as well that can come out from the lich for the cancer just annihilate everybody 02:25:40.520 --> 02:25:51.120 Here we go, smoke. 02:25:51.120 --> 02:25:54.320 There are a lot of bombs, so do have to be cautious of that. 02:25:54.320 --> 02:25:59.320 But if they do get one of these big kills, they're going to have a massive number advantage. 02:25:59.320 --> 02:26:04.800 Here we go. 02:26:04.800 --> 02:26:05.800 Another hex picks up my paravis. 02:26:05.800 --> 02:26:08.400 No, it just has one as well. 02:26:08.400 --> 02:26:12.400 And Mikkei, he does not have the Aegis to that, so... 02:26:14.400 --> 02:26:15.400 Jump forward. 02:26:15.400 --> 02:26:17.400 They get a Hex when the Night Gloss, Night Gloss, he's dead immediately! 02:26:17.400 --> 02:26:18.400 80 seconds. 02:26:18.400 --> 02:26:20.400 They kill him up, but they do get a Hex when the Mikkei return! 02:26:21.400 --> 02:26:25.400 He's gonna be up in the air, we'll have to put the Mikkei be draggin' stuff away, he'll get out. 02:26:25.400 --> 02:26:26.400 He has to back off the point. 02:26:26.400 --> 02:26:29.400 The next city gate is comin' in though for Tophon and the three of them. 02:26:29.400 --> 02:26:32.400 The Hex is there in return, they're on towards the leech, Tophon will fall. 02:26:32.400 --> 02:26:36.400 He's shooting the trees, Mikkei coming back in over the wall, two of them. 02:26:36.400 --> 02:26:40.400 Pick up the kill leader, the big kill, take him out of the game. 02:26:40.400 --> 02:26:43.400 He's been trying to go on two minutes without buyback. 02:26:43.400 --> 02:26:45.400 They've got it Owen. 02:26:45.400 --> 02:26:47.400 They absolutely have a liquid. 02:26:47.400 --> 02:26:51.400 They might have looked a little sloppy in game one and then at the start of game two, 02:26:51.400 --> 02:26:52.400 but BAM! 02:26:52.400 --> 02:26:55.400 When they were ready to bring in the comeback this game, 02:26:55.400 --> 02:26:57.400 my goodness they bought in the comeback. 02:26:57.400 --> 02:26:58.400 This game is over. 02:26:58.400 --> 02:27:01.400 Gigi is called liquid and pushing this to the game three. 02:27:01.400 --> 02:27:04.400 And it's going to be a bit of a rough loss there for Paralyzing. 02:27:04.400 --> 02:27:09.400 Probably feeling so good in this game, diving toward the base, end up just getting wiped by a kez. 02:27:09.400 --> 02:27:10.400 And did he get his heart? 02:27:10.400 --> 02:27:12.400 He did, but after he died. 02:27:13.400 --> 02:27:17.400 Well, you know, at least it looks better than just a heart recipe on the next game. 02:27:17.400 --> 02:27:22.400 Yeah, no one in... I mean, they're talking about it right now for sure, because this was their game to lose. 02:27:22.400 --> 02:27:25.400 And Liquid just took advantage of the mistakes in space. 02:27:27.400 --> 02:27:29.400 That was quite something there from Liquid. 02:27:29.400 --> 02:27:32.400 They look pretty frustrated in that zone. I'd imagine so too. 02:27:32.400 --> 02:27:38.300 So I have to shake it off reset going to this next one because liquid they started this game in a dreadful position 02:27:38.800 --> 02:27:43.620 It's more recovering. Yeah, you came dreadful again, and then made probably one of the biggest recoveries 02:27:43.620 --> 02:27:45.620 We've seen in this tournament 02:27:45.920 --> 02:27:50.000 Yeah, what what a come like what a gun as you say we were still on the camera 02:27:50.880 --> 02:27:55.960 Paravision like going into the game three that they got a really reset right? Oh, yeah 02:27:55.960 --> 02:28:00.160 It's gonna be a rough trajectory coming in from a loss like this going in the game three 02:28:00.160 --> 02:28:06.160 and Liquid, you know, they're absolutely gonna be on the up, you know, they managed to get for a round game. 02:28:06.160 --> 02:28:11.160 As you said, the start of game two, they were able to hold things together mentally. 02:28:11.160 --> 02:28:15.160 In terms of the gameplay, it didn't look like they were crumbling, it didn't look like they were gonna get too owed, 02:28:15.160 --> 02:28:20.160 but then, bam, they had that perfect defence around Mikkei on the cares. 02:28:20.160 --> 02:28:25.160 I bet he was telling the boys that he had no faith in this game, he knew that he was gonna be able to do it. 02:28:25.160 --> 02:28:29.160 He was like, look at this Necrophos, it's fine, it doesn't matter, I want a cares, I'm gonna be able to do it. 02:28:29.160 --> 02:28:34.760 how to do it. What a game. What a game. Game 3, can't wait. Liquid. Get the second game. 02:28:34.760 --> 02:28:40.120 It's one for one right now between Liquid and ParaVision. 02:28:40.120 --> 02:28:44.920 That was quite a comeback there, Jenkins. It was. I'm just watering some plants with 02:28:44.920 --> 02:28:52.840 my liquid. Is Liquid doing it? Liquid is definitely doing it here. Definitely looking 02:28:52.840 --> 02:28:59.240 lot more a lot more hydrated I feel hydrated after that game Jenkins cuz 02:28:59.240 --> 02:29:02.640 uh you know we're all talking about how free of a game that was for party vision 02:29:02.640 --> 02:29:06.200 and it looked like that can we talk about necros 30 minutes we talk about 02:29:06.200 --> 02:29:14.960 the the elephant in the room yeah sure what is going on with the late game 02:29:14.960 --> 02:29:23.440 Necrofus. You know I said it to you. I said Brian brah brah. Mahbo. I said that and I said 02:29:23.440 --> 02:29:30.280 what is it when our teams going to start respecting this hero not only every game is it getting 02:29:30.280 --> 02:29:36.840 through but when it does well it's 10k ahead of the enemy carry. He was like 28k network 02:29:36.840 --> 02:29:43.520 to like 15k next. That's pretty crazy and also you were mentioning because Quinn plays 02:29:43.520 --> 02:29:48.080 a lot of necroding is in the green room. You were mentioning that you think that Witt's 02:29:48.080 --> 02:29:55.120 from playtime goes for the 25 talent that's all about the Reaper's scythe damage. And 02:29:55.120 --> 02:29:59.280 I could see how in the late game it would be like a better way to scale because these 02:29:59.280 --> 02:30:04.960 times where Ikez gets his satanic off or not. That sounds confusing with the name, but it's 02:30:04.960 --> 02:30:06.120 really confusing because he's satanic. 02:30:06.120 --> 02:30:12.400 Nick A uses the item that heals you a bunch on carry before the necrofo scythe kills him. 02:30:12.400 --> 02:30:18.040 Yeah, I feel like those are the times where it would have actually been making a difference. Yeah, it's definitely like the first person 02:30:18.040 --> 02:30:20.120 I saw to that was abusing the 02:30:21.280 --> 02:30:24.960 Scythe talent at level 25 was DM 02:30:25.920 --> 02:30:29.880 He went for a refresher orb and I swear to God dude 02:30:29.880 --> 02:30:35.500 You have heroes that are 20% HP down and you're just Scythe for fresher site them. They're dead like late game if someone 02:30:36.160 --> 02:30:40.480 Bought back. It's over like you can just insta kill them if it feels really overpowered 02:30:40.480 --> 02:30:46.240 I personally believe it depends on the late game like do you want to play more around burst or do you want to play more on healing? 02:30:46.240 --> 02:30:52.160 You know, obviously they were going high ground. So they felt like they could heal and just 02:30:52.600 --> 02:30:57.480 Pressure the high ground like it felt like the game felt really stable didn't feel like they needed to burst anybody like that 02:30:57.640 --> 02:30:59.640 but it's just a 02:30:59.680 --> 02:31:01.280 little 02:31:01.280 --> 02:31:05.540 Disrespectful, I would say of the surroundings. It's a little disrespectful and 02:31:05.540 --> 02:31:08.540 and destructive, if you will. 02:31:08.540 --> 02:31:13.040 I feel like people were trying to do their own thing and just, like, exist in the game. 02:31:13.040 --> 02:31:13.540 Yeah. 02:31:13.540 --> 02:31:16.040 There's people around them that are playing a completely different game. 02:31:16.040 --> 02:31:17.040 For sure. 02:31:17.040 --> 02:31:18.040 At the same time. 02:31:18.040 --> 02:31:19.040 For sure. 02:31:19.040 --> 02:31:23.540 Which is something that they can fall victim to on the side of Paravision. 02:31:23.540 --> 02:31:24.040 Yeah. 02:31:24.040 --> 02:31:29.040 Because it's a lot of really high skilled people with a lot of their own individual ideas. 02:31:29.040 --> 02:31:34.540 And Satanic in particular, like, he views himself as, and you could tell this, 02:31:34.540 --> 02:31:42.180 this as the young prodigy, right? And he has his own ideas and nobody can't look skilled 02:31:42.180 --> 02:31:47.060 as him. Maybe barring like Micae Gatoros. It's a very small list, right? And he knows 02:31:47.060 --> 02:31:53.500 that. And you know that he knows that. And sometimes it can result in these. I remember 02:31:53.500 --> 02:31:57.380 when Estini was coaching the team, he would always joke like, there's always one throw, 02:31:57.380 --> 02:32:00.740 right? Yeah. There's always a lot of throwing that happens. Sometimes you got to pass the 02:32:00.740 --> 02:32:05.460 Sometimes the ball gets passed around for sure and I mean in this in this game 02:32:05.460 --> 02:32:08.420 We're talking a lot about paravision obviously liquid 02:32:08.920 --> 02:32:13.420 This is what they do. This is their bread and butter, especially this iteration. They got a lot better 02:32:13.980 --> 02:32:15.980 Since the TI when I would say 02:32:16.080 --> 02:32:20.040 Like they have never looked better than they're looking right now 02:32:20.180 --> 02:32:24.640 Yeah, I think they kind of got rid of some dead weight during after the after the TI win 02:32:24.640 --> 02:32:25.640 I think so, too. 02:32:27.440 --> 02:32:29.940 That's a- it's not true. I mean, they look good. They do look good. 02:32:29.940 --> 02:32:35.560 This was just a classic liquid comeback, like, the Mickey Magic, you know, 02:32:35.560 --> 02:32:40.520 Kesley game, like, you can see why people rate him so highly on the tier list of Kesley's. 02:32:40.520 --> 02:32:44.120 I mean, if there's one team that can manage to, like, win a game from nowhere, 02:32:44.120 --> 02:32:46.920 especially while you're at, like, all distractions, they just ignore him. 02:32:46.920 --> 02:32:47.420 Yeah, exactly. 02:32:47.420 --> 02:32:48.120 They just win the game. 02:32:48.120 --> 02:32:52.040 Yeah, you're focused on the task at hand, which is usually, like, 02:32:52.040 --> 02:32:59.140 Combs making sure you're focused on I can't even try to keep this comps going, but what like that's what they say 02:32:59.140 --> 02:33:02.640 That's what they say like because there's so many distractions going on during the game 02:33:02.640 --> 02:33:04.880 But they are like the one thing we have to do right now 02:33:05.120 --> 02:33:11.760 It's focused on the hopes and the goal on kicking kicking the ball through the need to be able to communicate when there's all this 02:33:11.760 --> 02:33:16.720 Chaos going on around you. Yeah, you have to be able to ignore it and just focus on what's the most important thing 02:33:16.720 --> 02:33:18.720 Which is definitely the communication 02:33:18.720 --> 02:33:21.000 To have any sort of combat, this has to happen. 02:33:21.000 --> 02:33:22.560 Yeah, and I will say... 02:33:22.560 --> 02:33:26.240 If you do that in a game where you're that behind, it's even more impressive. 02:33:26.240 --> 02:33:32.680 I think it's started with that failed dive by parry vision at like 8, like 12, 13 minutes in. 02:33:32.680 --> 02:33:35.800 Which you're very tempted to do as Necrophos, by the way. 02:33:35.800 --> 02:33:40.680 This is what the hero likes to do. You feel invulnerable to the towers, and you are, but your team isn't. 02:33:40.680 --> 02:33:41.280 Yeah. 02:33:41.280 --> 02:33:42.000 That's the problem. 02:33:42.000 --> 02:33:44.480 Sometimes you go a little bit too deep with Necrophos earlier. 02:33:44.480 --> 02:33:44.880 Yeah. 02:33:44.880 --> 02:33:48.880 You have that one, it's like every carry has that moment where you go back and kill up a BKB 02:33:48.880 --> 02:33:52.880 because you died once in a way you shouldn't have died, but Necrophos has that just by default 02:33:52.880 --> 02:33:57.380 regardless of items because you run up their heroes, you feel really strong, you overextend. 02:33:57.380 --> 02:33:58.380 We've all been there. 02:33:58.380 --> 02:34:05.880 Yeah, the thing is, you overextend, sometimes you throw against the nullifier for Necrow 02:34:05.880 --> 02:34:08.880 and BKB only having one charge now that you can't use the refresher. 02:34:08.880 --> 02:34:13.880 You do want a refresher on Necrow, but it doesn't give you that second BKB for the nullifier 02:34:13.880 --> 02:34:21.480 Which in some cases is okay, but it gets Kez who does an overwhelming amount of damage 02:34:21.480 --> 02:34:25.160 It is insane how much damage this little bird does in the lake 02:34:25.160 --> 02:34:29.240 Dude Timbersaw with Axe was dying. I don't think I've ever seen that before 02:34:29.240 --> 02:34:34.280 He fell off big time, genuinely. Like I'm not sure what the build needed to be for like Blink Hacks or something like that 02:34:34.280 --> 02:34:40.600 I mean, I feel like there's just some threshold in that game where like you could either kill the necrophos, punka, timbersaw, tricor 02:34:40.600 --> 02:34:43.280 Like you kill one of them you kind of kill the other two 02:34:43.280 --> 02:34:46.060 Yeah, you either can kill all of them or none of them 02:34:46.060 --> 02:34:51.200 Yeah, right because it kind of spills into the next one and at the point where notice was no longer able to 02:34:51.820 --> 02:34:57.220 Face tank the damage. It just felt like the like the nullifier from Nightstalker plus Kaz 02:34:57.220 --> 02:34:59.920 He was just evaporating you through BKB as well. Yeah 02:35:00.840 --> 02:35:03.880 It's been a while since we've seen timber in the meadow, so 02:35:04.320 --> 02:35:08.920 Yeah, it's hard to say like what exactly is the late game build that makes him work 02:35:08.920 --> 02:35:13.480 that makes him strong. Like I said, maybe the alternative is Blink Hex, 02:35:13.480 --> 02:35:16.500 then you're just playing like first people. It feels worse to do that now 02:35:16.500 --> 02:35:20.620 that there's not the second shot from. Alright, that's part of the issue. I do 02:35:20.620 --> 02:35:25.620 think in that specific game though, they even 9 class maybe kind of a joke was going for a heart attack. 02:35:38.920 --> 02:35:46.120 Wraith, writh, writh, writh Wraith, writh, writh, writh 02:35:46.120 --> 02:36:06.120 There were four limes, been up down, I blame myself 02:36:06.120 --> 02:36:18.120 There's no doubt that I come now and know to what we've felt 02:36:18.120 --> 02:36:29.120 Pulling, pushing, holding on for something The bitter sky is coming and we're still here 02:36:29.120 --> 02:36:35.120 Oh, I feel the love, yeah, I feel the love 02:36:35.120 --> 02:36:40.120 It's something we're gonna need to understand 02:36:40.120 --> 02:36:46.120 Oh, I feel the love, yeah, I feel the love 02:36:46.120 --> 02:36:51.120 Let's just go know we don't need a plan 02:36:51.120 --> 02:36:53.120 Cause I feel the love 02:37:02.120 --> 02:37:04.120 Cause I feel the love 02:37:34.120 --> 02:37:36.120 We can win, we can win, we can win 02:37:36.120 --> 02:37:38.120 The limbo shank 02:37:38.120 --> 02:37:41.120 I've been on horse again 02:37:41.120 --> 02:37:43.120 The blue sky is coming 02:37:43.120 --> 02:37:47.120 We're still here 02:37:47.120 --> 02:37:49.120 Oh, I feel the love 02:37:49.120 --> 02:37:52.120 Yeah, I feel the love 02:37:52.120 --> 02:37:57.120 It's something we don't need to understand 02:37:57.120 --> 02:38:00.120 Oh, I feel the love 02:38:00.120 --> 02:38:02.120 Yeah, I feel the love 02:38:04.120 --> 02:38:07.720 Let's just go, no we don't need to cry 02:38:08.920 --> 02:38:10.920 Cause I'm FIFTY LAND 02:38:19.920 --> 02:38:21.920 Cause I'm FIFTY LAND 02:38:31.720 --> 02:38:32.720 FIFTY LAND 02:38:32.720 --> 02:38:36.720 Yeah, I feel love 02:38:36.720 --> 02:38:40.720 It's something we don't need to understand 02:38:40.720 --> 02:38:44.720 Oh, I feel the love 02:38:44.720 --> 02:38:47.720 Yeah, I feel love 02:38:47.720 --> 02:38:52.720 Let's just go know we don't need a plan 02:38:52.720 --> 02:38:55.720 Cause I feel the love 02:39:02.720 --> 02:39:10.720 I've got a feeling of the things I've got to want to do 02:39:10.720 --> 02:39:18.720 You bring the stars, I've got the station, I've got a feeling of the things I've got to want to do 02:39:18.720 --> 02:39:26.720 I've got so much to think in, but I'm crazy but you're wrong 02:39:26.720 --> 02:39:29.720 Feelin' as if you're just standing there 02:39:29.720 --> 02:39:31.720 Don't think I'm dreamin' 02:39:31.720 --> 02:39:33.720 You're starting to sleep 02:39:33.720 --> 02:39:35.720 With us all alone 02:39:35.720 --> 02:39:38.720 And all of the things you've got through my mind 02:39:38.720 --> 02:39:43.720 Every single day is, just feelin' so right 02:39:43.720 --> 02:39:48.720 If you know they can't be wrong 02:39:49.720 --> 02:39:51.720 It's not easy love 02:39:53.720 --> 02:39:55.720 It's not easy love 02:40:26.720 --> 02:40:28.720 I'll say it if we don't 02:40:28.720 --> 02:40:30.720 No, no, no, no 02:40:30.720 --> 02:40:32.720 That's not what you thinkin' 02:40:32.720 --> 02:40:35.720 But I'm crazy, but you're wrong 02:40:35.720 --> 02:40:37.720 What the hell's the start of the game, you guys? 02:40:37.720 --> 02:40:38.720 C'mon! 02:40:38.720 --> 02:40:40.720 Something can dream 02:40:40.720 --> 02:40:43.720 Cause when you wake up for so long 02:40:43.720 --> 02:40:47.720 And you're all I've got, you'll go through the night 02:40:47.720 --> 02:40:49.720 And there's some things 02:40:49.720 --> 02:40:51.720 That must be a sign 02:40:51.720 --> 02:40:57.720 You won't make it no more 02:40:57.720 --> 02:41:01.720 It's a big deal, love 02:41:01.720 --> 02:41:04.720 It's a big deal, love 02:41:04.720 --> 02:41:06.720 You're picking on 02:41:06.720 --> 02:41:09.720 It's a big deal, love 02:41:09.720 --> 02:41:13.720 Yeah, it's a big deal, love 02:41:51.720 --> 02:42:00.520 Come back! You are watching Dream League, season 29, and we are in the middle of a series in the playoffs. 02:42:00.520 --> 02:42:04.120 In the upper bracket, one of these teams will drop to the lower bracket. 02:42:04.120 --> 02:42:12.520 We got Paravision and Team Liquid and the score is tied, which is very unlike what we predicted in the second game. 02:42:12.520 --> 02:42:17.400 Yeah, I mean, I think the draft kind of did play out, but you could tell like at some point, 02:42:17.400 --> 02:42:18.480 party 02:42:18.480 --> 02:42:20.840 Two things I think one this wasn't super comfortable for them 02:42:20.840 --> 02:42:25.400 You can tell by watching them play it. This was not like as comfortable as game one purely like how they 02:42:25.880 --> 02:42:30.080 Player hero matchups, whatever they didn't feel as good and I think they got overconfident 02:42:30.080 --> 02:42:35.840 They felt like we are actually just purely unkillable and that is true as long as you stay within your limits, right? 02:42:35.960 --> 02:42:39.520 But they like a little bit too far. There was a couple of teamfights where they like 02:42:40.000 --> 02:42:41.720 kind of just I don't know 02:42:41.720 --> 02:42:43.720 I think they overestimated their strength and 02:42:43.720 --> 02:42:47.240 Throw it away and liquid is like this is the cool thing with tier one teams 02:42:47.240 --> 02:42:53.480 You give them a chance and they'll take it like all the way down and that's cool. See I've learned that against 02:42:54.020 --> 02:42:58.960 Kez there's never unkillable like that state just doesn't 02:42:59.440 --> 02:43:03.080 Get reached there's always potential for him to come back 02:43:03.080 --> 02:43:07.480 Especially when the nullifier comes out. I was very impressed by ace this game 02:43:07.480 --> 02:43:07.760 Yeah 02:43:07.760 --> 02:43:13.240 The early game like he was the only reason that liquid really had a chance with a lot of his rotations 02:43:13.240 --> 02:43:17.880 Like he got dumpstered in lane like we thought he would, but he moved around a lot and like that, 02:43:17.880 --> 02:43:21.780 just quite honestly, is not like within Ace's wheelhouse usually. 02:43:21.780 --> 02:43:24.140 He's usually the guy that sits AFK in lane, right? 02:43:24.140 --> 02:43:28.520 The weird thing I'm watching with Team Liquid against the better teams, like the teams they've lost to in the tournament, 02:43:28.520 --> 02:43:34.920 is their early game execution, like on kills and rotations, looks really sick and yet I find them losing a lot of their laning stages, 02:43:34.920 --> 02:43:39.360 like they're down 1-2k. This game was like worse, the last game was worse than most. 02:43:39.360 --> 02:43:43.680 I'd be curious to like dissect it because their moves I'm always like wow that's impressive 02:43:43.680 --> 02:43:46.160 And then they feel it fall behind like 12 minutes in 02:43:47.680 --> 02:43:51.200 When you're moving around a lot, you're doing a lot of plays you're not really playing on games 02:43:51.760 --> 02:43:56.880 And that's how you balance that though, you know, I mean that's the thing right you need better matchups ideally like I think 02:43:57.200 --> 02:44:00.160 The problem for them in this last game was like they have really bad matchups 02:44:00.480 --> 02:44:02.480 They did a smoke move level one that is like 02:44:02.880 --> 02:44:07.680 Essentially the game over four or one four from a pro player perspective when that happens in your head 02:44:07.680 --> 02:44:10.000 you're like, oh god, this is just through this game. 02:44:10.000 --> 02:44:12.280 Four deaths, like Necrox, three of them or something, 02:44:12.280 --> 02:44:14.400 I don't know, some ridiculous advantage 02:44:14.400 --> 02:44:16.040 on an already winning lane, 02:44:16.040 --> 02:44:18.760 and then Kunkka also gets that on an already winning lane. 02:44:18.760 --> 02:44:20.040 And I feel like, yeah, 02:44:20.040 --> 02:44:21.440 then you don't really have much of a choice. 02:44:21.440 --> 02:44:22.880 You can't lane, so you start looking around, 02:44:22.880 --> 02:44:24.040 you start doing moves, 02:44:24.040 --> 02:44:26.040 and that's like the best thing you can do. 02:44:26.040 --> 02:44:27.920 And it's a lot of just like disruptive plays 02:44:27.920 --> 02:44:29.840 that are kind of like, 02:44:29.840 --> 02:44:32.680 you're hoping to force some sort of mistake, 02:44:32.680 --> 02:44:33.840 because there's no way you can win the game 02:44:33.840 --> 02:44:35.280 playing it by calmness. 02:44:35.280 --> 02:44:37.280 Yeah, I feel like they made Poryvision... 02:44:37.980 --> 02:44:42.180 Like, they set up so much in the game that allowed Poryvision to overextend and make that throw. 02:44:42.180 --> 02:44:43.580 Like, they had to do a lot of things, right? 02:44:43.580 --> 02:44:45.880 Like, imagine if Ace didn't have those successful kills early game, 02:44:45.880 --> 02:44:51.080 because they were still down like 5k at 15 minutes or something with all those moves, so... 02:44:51.380 --> 02:44:52.480 Yeah, just hats off to Liquid. 02:44:52.480 --> 02:44:54.580 I mean, I've been seeing a lot of high-skill stuff from them, 02:44:54.580 --> 02:44:58.080 but I do think they've had the strategical disadvantage against the better teams right now. 02:44:58.280 --> 02:45:00.480 Like, better teams meaning not better than them, but... 02:45:00.880 --> 02:45:01.580 Stronger. 02:45:01.580 --> 02:45:02.380 Stronger opponent. 02:45:02.380 --> 02:45:08.220 Well, they changed some things up for this game, I do want to focus on what's happening here, because so far it's very similar. 02:45:08.220 --> 02:45:10.980 I was going to say, if I were a pair of vision, I wouldn't... 02:45:10.980 --> 02:45:16.500 Why would you not run it back? Like, they were winning. Clearly, you can see where they made the mistakes. 02:45:16.500 --> 02:45:21.820 I think they were very comfortable with where that game was at, as long as they don't do the dives that we were talking about. 02:45:21.820 --> 02:45:26.700 Like, I think in a theoretical, like, draft perspective standpoint, I think they had everything going for them. 02:45:26.700 --> 02:45:27.300 They did. 02:45:27.300 --> 02:45:32.280 I will say though that in terms of like, Hari playing Hari Dota, I think this was a harder 02:45:32.280 --> 02:45:34.840 game for them to be themselves. 02:45:34.840 --> 02:45:37.200 I think the heroes were not exactly like what they used to play. 02:45:37.200 --> 02:45:40.320 They still executed it great because they're good players and a good team. 02:45:40.320 --> 02:45:45.080 But it's not like, game 1 felt a lot more of their style, you know what I mean? 02:45:45.080 --> 02:45:48.640 Why would they ban out the Beastmaster in this game? 02:45:48.640 --> 02:45:51.200 Over the axe, over the timber? 02:45:51.200 --> 02:45:53.640 If it was ignored in the previous game? 02:45:53.640 --> 02:45:58.120 I'm probably from Liquid's perspective, they won't ask him, they want to set up something 02:45:58.120 --> 02:46:01.280 similar, do you feel like they were happy with the trade, it worked out for them? 02:46:01.280 --> 02:46:03.000 But then why not doubt out the Axe? 02:46:03.000 --> 02:46:04.000 Like they did previously? 02:46:04.000 --> 02:46:05.000 Yeah, I'm not sure. 02:46:05.000 --> 02:46:06.000 I'm not sure. 02:46:06.000 --> 02:46:07.000 You know what I'm saying? 02:46:07.000 --> 02:46:10.480 I think that they might have made the read that if we pick Kez first, they're going 02:46:10.480 --> 02:46:11.480 to pick some person. 02:46:11.480 --> 02:46:12.480 Yeah, it's a lot of them. 02:46:12.480 --> 02:46:15.880 Let's not spend any plans on Axe as well. 02:46:15.880 --> 02:46:18.360 Beastmaster maybe because it's a flex you're considering. 02:46:18.360 --> 02:46:21.080 I was just looking through their bands in all three of these games because Liquid's 02:46:21.080 --> 02:46:22.840 been in First Pick all three games. 02:46:22.840 --> 02:46:26.700 And so party visions always banned Lone Druid Doom, but the first game they went Puck's 02:46:26.700 --> 02:46:30.080 Islands there, and the second game they went Hoodwing Pango. 02:46:30.080 --> 02:46:35.040 So I'm curious how much is going into these first round bans, because a lot of times those 02:46:35.040 --> 02:46:38.520 things will be awfully similar, or at least the heroes we see going through will like 02:46:38.520 --> 02:46:39.520 show up in the game. 02:46:39.520 --> 02:46:43.240 Like you'll see the Hoodwing, you'll see the Pango, and we did see the Puck that got 02:46:43.240 --> 02:46:44.240 previously banned. 02:46:44.240 --> 02:46:45.240 But... 02:46:45.240 --> 02:46:46.240 Nisha's Puck is also a little bit bullshit. 02:46:46.240 --> 02:46:47.240 It's just like unfair to play against. 02:46:47.240 --> 02:46:48.240 Yeah. 02:46:48.240 --> 02:46:52.440 I think like in terms of heroes that provide opportunity for skill expression, Puck is 02:46:52.440 --> 02:46:58.040 like probably the highest yeah with ember maybe number two and nisha is that guy you know like 02:46:58.040 --> 02:47:01.800 that you want of those kinds of heroes well i think his pangos look good this tournament i would say 02:47:01.800 --> 02:47:06.840 historically it's a weaker hero from and probably in that regard it's like a safer bet to let the 02:47:06.840 --> 02:47:10.600 pango through them the park that's sure if you're in that kind of game as in game one and he's pango 02:47:10.600 --> 02:47:14.680 or you're too sorry and he's pango i think he has a lot of a harder time figuring out how to close 02:47:14.680 --> 02:47:19.320 the way back into the game the same way he knows what fuck like all the ins and outs of every situation 02:47:19.320 --> 02:47:26.160 No matter how good about it looks. Yeah, so they replaced the keeper band with Nix, which means now there's 02:47:27.040 --> 02:47:29.720 Probably gonna be keeper the light. There's a coddle angle. Yeah, which 02:47:30.660 --> 02:47:32.160 Does change 02:47:32.160 --> 02:47:34.160 Everything I mean coddle timber 02:47:34.560 --> 02:47:39.800 Fine. It's it's like a okay combo refreshing the Q and the W of their low cooldown 02:47:39.800 --> 02:47:46.500 He likes having mana, but all of the other picks will therefore get changed for a pair of vision strategy also changes 02:47:46.500 --> 02:47:50.780 Right, next is a lot about hunting and setting up moves and like playing around mid and pressuring Nisha with 02:47:51.180 --> 02:47:54.920 Coddle it would be a lot more about force liquid to come to us while we farm our stacks 02:47:55.100 --> 02:47:58.380 Because if you don't we're gonna get too fat and then you can't fight us anymore 02:47:59.380 --> 02:48:06.660 It is really funny and when you think about Dota at this level like how much of a place-file difference the four position makes for the entire 02:48:07.460 --> 02:48:11.500 Team synergy and strategy like when I hear you say that I'm like wow. Yeah, you're right 02:48:11.500 --> 02:48:16.860 Like you literally go from pressuring to playing your own game for your own timings and so they go for pango first 02:48:16.860 --> 02:48:22.020 I mean that hero wasn't ever really gonna show up because even though you said Misha pango is not as scary as a 02:48:22.180 --> 02:48:25.300 Pock you still don't want to give it away. They've been highly prioritizing it 02:48:25.420 --> 02:48:30.940 It's another mage player buyer and it's an actually not be a diffuser fire. It's a call a combo too true 02:48:30.940 --> 02:48:38.060 So now both sides are thinking about it. Is this a hero that team liquid could steal like it. I don't really yeah 02:48:38.060 --> 02:48:40.060 I feel like it should be 02:48:40.060 --> 02:48:42.760 But it's not really in their real-life right now. 02:48:42.760 --> 02:48:47.560 I think both Pofu and Boxy play it, and they both played well, but I don't think it's like a... 02:48:47.560 --> 02:48:53.060 For party, I feel like when they pick Caudal, the entire team keeps saying that the entire draft is about Caudal, 02:48:53.060 --> 02:48:55.360 and every entire team functions around line-class. 02:48:55.360 --> 02:49:01.360 I feel like for Liquid, they won't be the same front-level. It's not as scary for their team. 02:49:03.560 --> 02:49:07.560 So they don't go for it? They go instead for the Underlord Ruvik? 02:49:07.560 --> 02:49:16.560 If they're anticipating a caudal from Paravision, then you would also anticipate, like, a Tiny coming from them as well, maybe. 02:49:16.560 --> 02:49:22.560 And I think Underlord Rubik is pretty good against Tiny. Like, Rubik stealing Avalanche is insane. 02:49:22.560 --> 02:49:26.560 And Underlord has percentage damage for Tiny in lane. 02:49:26.560 --> 02:49:29.560 There it is. 02:49:29.560 --> 02:49:31.560 Come on, I'm stronger. 02:49:31.560 --> 02:49:41.960 I guess the question here is like, tiny could get banned, it's probably not going to be picked by liquid because it's like almost exclusively a carry. 02:49:41.960 --> 02:49:44.040 I wonder do they pick it here, is there something I'm not sure? 02:49:44.040 --> 02:49:48.040 No, I think they're going to go like witch doctor again or something, like something to secure the lane. 02:49:48.680 --> 02:49:51.880 And leave last pick for the carry? 02:49:51.880 --> 02:49:55.320 Very, very likely it's a five, just simply to get more information. 02:49:55.320 --> 02:50:01.820 You do see your matchup close, so like, in theory you could also pick your carry, but the same is true for your support. 02:50:02.820 --> 02:50:06.820 I just don't think Tiny is like good enough against what we see to be like, yeah, you should want it. 02:50:06.820 --> 02:50:13.820 It's not, but it's just because of the cauldron, like, it changes the dynamic of the hero for sure. 02:50:13.820 --> 02:50:16.820 I also feel like, let's say there's two bans, what carries are you looking at? 02:50:16.820 --> 02:50:17.820 How's the carry player yourself? 02:50:17.820 --> 02:50:22.820 Faces Void and maybe Ursa or something like that. 02:50:22.820 --> 02:50:28.820 I would say Void is probably not as good against the heroes you see, but it's not that strong, right? 02:50:28.820 --> 02:50:32.820 You don't really have that much, like, confidence in the chrono in the early game, I feel like. 02:50:32.820 --> 02:50:35.820 Yeah, I mean, I feel like Pango caught all of the timbers. 02:50:35.820 --> 02:50:36.820 That's good enough. 02:50:38.820 --> 02:50:43.820 I mean, a lot of the faces of Void, I feel like, is to remove Kaz from the game. 02:50:43.820 --> 02:50:47.820 Like, mid to late game, they don't have saves on Team Liquid. 02:50:47.820 --> 02:50:49.820 I wouldn't have picked Void right there. 02:50:49.820 --> 02:50:54.140 I'm saying like the heroes I'm eyeing after the band stage, right, right? 02:50:54.500 --> 02:50:58.500 Is there an element of picking Grim here that's also deny picking it? 02:50:59.060 --> 02:51:04.860 Like liquid can't take it. I think the night picks in general are like very rarely a concept generally 02:51:04.860 --> 02:51:06.300 Except for rubik underwars, is it? 02:51:06.300 --> 02:51:10.220 I mean maybe yeah to some degree, but it's also like you want to pick rubik on the cctender 02:51:10.220 --> 02:51:14.780 But you will probably avoid it picking on the lord unless rubik made sense for you as well. Yeah, I'll get that makes sense 02:51:14.780 --> 02:51:16.940 Yeah, you really pick a hero so they don't get it 02:51:16.940 --> 02:51:19.580 It has to be both. 02:51:19.580 --> 02:51:21.080 It has to be both. 02:51:21.080 --> 02:51:24.700 And you can think about it during the draft, going into it, how do we set up this draft. 02:51:24.700 --> 02:51:28.460 For example, I'm sure this pango from Pari, they let it through the plans thinking we'll 02:51:28.460 --> 02:51:31.380 pick it on 13, because they won't pick it on 9. 02:51:31.380 --> 02:51:34.660 Or if they do pick it on 9, then we get Kess, and then they're like, oh and no matter what 02:51:34.660 --> 02:51:37.140 we get two S2 heroes here. 02:51:37.140 --> 02:51:41.900 But usually not at this point in the draft, you're like, hmm, we need to take this guy 02:51:41.900 --> 02:51:42.900 with us. 02:51:42.900 --> 02:51:43.900 It is good with the other heroes too. 02:51:43.900 --> 02:51:49.000 room pango. Excellent obviously. You can even timber, it's fine with them. 02:51:49.000 --> 02:51:52.440 Vayne is a classic counter to Caudal. This is one of those matches where Caudal just 02:51:52.440 --> 02:51:55.940 can't trade. And you have a very easy time following him around. If he tries to go stack 02:51:55.940 --> 02:52:01.160 something you can go catch him, stand up on him. Caudal is generally very fast, so you 02:52:01.160 --> 02:52:05.360 want to play away from the enemy heroes and try to abuse that. Vayne is like too tanky 02:52:05.360 --> 02:52:09.160 and he has catch from long range, so it's kind of easy to shut down Caudal. 02:52:09.160 --> 02:52:12.360 I thought it was so funny when you said that I'm like, how the hell is Vayne a counter 02:52:12.360 --> 02:52:15.060 Like I was thinking about it their spells interactions and all that kind of stuff 02:52:15.060 --> 02:52:20.280 But then yeah, you talked about Caudal representing a certain type of game plan and I could see how Bane just completely 02:52:20.280 --> 02:52:23.060 You can follow him into trying to walk walking up. Yeah, you're fast 02:52:23.060 --> 02:52:28.360 You're not getting out movement speeded the same way a lot of other sports aren't plus you have like in-state armor and cuddle 02:52:28.360 --> 02:52:30.360 It's like a shrimp. Yeah, so I 02:52:30.720 --> 02:52:37.600 Was very I know I was a little hopeful that this series would have more than one witch doctor 02:52:37.600 --> 02:52:41.520 I was not the case. I just wanted to put my stat in the south there. 02:52:41.520 --> 02:52:44.400 I feel like it's just the one witch doctor is the one that I would sell off. 02:52:44.400 --> 02:52:46.720 It did win. It did win. 02:52:46.720 --> 02:52:48.160 200% win rate, why not? 02:52:48.160 --> 02:52:50.400 What is Tofu eating? Go back to Tofu Camp. 02:52:50.400 --> 02:52:51.120 Tofu Camp? 02:52:52.400 --> 02:52:53.360 We gotta wait, we gotta wait. 02:52:53.360 --> 02:52:54.960 Oh, a grape! That's a grape! 02:52:54.960 --> 02:52:55.600 Oh, that's a... 02:52:55.600 --> 02:52:56.640 Sure, it's not like an olive? 02:52:56.640 --> 02:52:58.160 It was on our... I think that was an olive. 02:52:58.160 --> 02:52:59.360 That was a great way to sell it. 02:52:59.360 --> 02:53:00.800 Tofu's eating olives. 02:53:00.800 --> 02:53:01.600 Isn't there a sentry? 02:53:01.600 --> 02:53:03.520 Wait, wait, is there a pit? Does he have a pit? 02:53:04.800 --> 02:53:05.840 Oh, it's an olive. 02:53:05.840 --> 02:53:06.320 Oh, my God. 02:53:06.320 --> 02:53:07.320 Oh, they took it out. 02:53:07.320 --> 02:53:09.320 He was about to take it out. 02:53:09.320 --> 02:53:10.320 No, it wasn't. 02:53:10.320 --> 02:53:11.320 You know, there's also a pit in the game, guys. 02:53:11.320 --> 02:53:12.320 It wasn't great. 02:53:12.320 --> 02:53:13.320 Underlord. 02:53:13.320 --> 02:53:14.320 Nobody eats olives, but the fork. 02:53:14.320 --> 02:53:15.320 He clearly just did. 02:53:15.320 --> 02:53:17.320 No, he doesn't want to get his mouse and keyboard. 02:53:17.320 --> 02:53:18.320 That was a great... 02:53:18.320 --> 02:53:19.320 But then he goes... 02:53:19.320 --> 02:53:21.320 Okay, I've got an easy way to settle this. 02:53:21.320 --> 02:53:23.320 Press 1 if it wasn't olives, press 2 if it was a... 02:53:23.320 --> 02:53:24.320 Grape. 02:53:24.320 --> 02:53:25.320 Grape. 02:53:25.320 --> 02:53:28.320 We'll have to ask him after the game. 02:53:28.320 --> 02:53:30.320 Yeah, we'll make sure. 02:53:30.320 --> 02:53:33.320 We've got an Invoker band as well, so we have 4 on the side of Team Liquid. 02:53:33.320 --> 02:53:37.720 We're looking for a hero for Nisha for the side of paravision. It looks like 02:53:40.440 --> 02:53:43.360 That's meant to just dumpster the penguin lane right that's what that's for 02:53:44.360 --> 02:53:50.120 Hero, but can they switch it about because I wonder if I as nothing to timbers pretty strong too 02:53:50.680 --> 02:53:55.560 Yeah, that's the vain is like giggling. This is like a you think like kes mid-rider. Yeah, maybe right? 02:53:55.560 --> 02:53:58.880 It's a job. He does that right freak. Yeah. Yeah, they do that'd be cool 02:53:58.880 --> 02:54:05.280 I feel like Niche surely plays it if anyone could pull it off. It's it's him like you want your 02:54:05.760 --> 02:54:12.040 High-skill savant guy playing Chesmit, but he's also very good at a second. What about Alchemist? What about this hero? 02:54:12.040 --> 02:54:14.040 How's this hero still in the pool? 02:54:14.400 --> 02:54:17.640 Is it lane well to Rubik on the board? I'm just thinking like 02:54:18.280 --> 02:54:21.320 Temple wise Grimstroke you need like an initiating stunner. Oh 02:54:21.880 --> 02:54:23.000 I don't 02:54:23.000 --> 02:54:25.720 It's a cat he'll go for the classic 02:54:25.720 --> 02:54:28.720 But isn't this kind of a hero you pick when you don't have a hero? 02:54:28.720 --> 02:54:29.720 Oh, absolutely. 02:54:29.720 --> 02:54:31.720 It is Anisha Kez. 02:54:31.720 --> 02:54:34.720 Yeah, okay, it is Anisha Kez. I like that a lot. 02:54:34.720 --> 02:54:37.720 I don't know how good it is, but if it's good, I like the draft a lot. 02:54:37.720 --> 02:54:39.720 I think they have a lot of good things happening. 02:54:39.720 --> 02:54:40.720 This is a cool swap up. 02:54:40.720 --> 02:54:43.720 And terribly, it's not particularly great against Underlord Rubik, right? 02:54:43.720 --> 02:54:47.720 I mean, I think TB is like the ultimate endgame, like I will carry this game. 02:54:47.720 --> 02:54:48.720 He will scale. 02:54:48.720 --> 02:54:49.720 Oh, he's... 02:54:49.720 --> 02:54:51.720 Anisha's been playing on his main account. 02:54:51.720 --> 02:54:52.720 Whatever we can play on. 02:54:52.720 --> 02:54:53.720 We should be able to see... 02:54:53.720 --> 02:54:56.460 I don't see his Dota plus level, does he have Dota plus? 02:54:56.460 --> 02:54:56.960 No. 02:54:56.960 --> 02:54:58.960 I don't think so, shoot. 02:54:58.960 --> 02:55:03.460 I actually think this game's like flipped from game two, where like Team Liquid is on a timer, 02:55:03.460 --> 02:55:06.460 but I think their lanes are much stronger and they've got a cool strategy. 02:55:06.460 --> 02:55:11.260 And I believe in them much more in game three than I did in the first two games. 02:55:11.260 --> 02:55:14.460 Yeah, I don't know the pango-quez matchup well enough to be able to say, 02:55:14.460 --> 02:55:17.460 but I feel like if this mid-matchup is like in Liquid's favor, 02:55:17.460 --> 02:55:20.720 and they can like play off of the tempo from Mikae and Nish, 02:55:20.720 --> 02:55:24.040 I think they have a pretty good thing going for the first like half of the game 02:55:24.040 --> 02:55:29.000 But then TB ultimately is endgame red boss even with like underlord aura and crimson 02:55:29.720 --> 02:55:36.040 Eventually, I think he still becomes the red boss. Okay. Okay. You have to cut him. Okay. I feel like liquid wins all three lanes now 02:55:36.040 --> 02:55:38.040 I mean, I also don't understand the 02:55:38.400 --> 02:55:44.200 Mid matchup. It's not something you see super often, but Bane asset versus timber should 02:55:45.040 --> 02:55:48.000 Obliterate it. Yeah, that should not it's really really rough 02:55:48.000 --> 02:55:53.800 And then Underlord, like you said, Underlord of Rubik against TD, it's an illusion hero, you shove out the waves. 02:55:53.800 --> 02:55:54.600 And Grimstroke. 02:55:54.600 --> 02:55:57.900 And Grimstroke, you can even kill him on that lane. 02:55:57.900 --> 02:56:01.600 We've seen that matchup, Rubik plus Underlord versus TD, TD dies. 02:56:01.600 --> 02:56:03.800 What is the purpose of the Grimstroke in these drafts? 02:56:03.800 --> 02:56:07.600 I think it's one of those heroes where they just pick it because they don't know what else is better. 02:56:07.600 --> 02:56:11.800 And they might want to deny it from Liquid themselves for the pango. 02:56:11.800 --> 02:56:14.800 But yeah, I guess like, I'm not sold on that, like it makes sense. 02:56:14.800 --> 02:56:18.160 But like I agree with what you said earlier that like it has to fit your draft and 02:56:18.600 --> 02:56:22.840 It feels like the terrible aid and the Grimstroke are both in that category of like 02:56:22.840 --> 02:56:28.960 I don't know what else to pick sort of so yeah, this would be the first game of the three games that 02:56:30.160 --> 02:56:32.160 Liquid would win the lanes 02:56:32.680 --> 02:56:38.400 We'll find out can they do it can they take game three or will para vision still close it out successfully? 02:56:38.400 --> 02:56:41.840 We're heading over to old pitch won't fogged of course, but first the park jimp on that 02:56:44.800 --> 02:57:14.600 Here we go ladies and gentlemen, time to get to the deciding game! 02:57:14.600 --> 02:57:19.600 Three here, Paravision versus Liquid, and we've forged this one. 02:57:19.600 --> 02:57:23.600 I think I've seen what kind of the last bit coming in in terms of like full comfort from Paravision. 02:57:23.600 --> 02:57:25.600 Same thing, it's like give me the Terrible, eh? 02:57:25.600 --> 02:57:27.600 Uh, Liquid actually. 02:57:27.600 --> 02:57:31.600 Last time around the first blood situation didn't go too great, but it didn't matter. 02:57:31.600 --> 02:57:32.600 They won the game. 02:57:32.600 --> 02:57:34.600 Wait, they know they're here. 02:57:34.600 --> 02:57:36.600 I just saw a pig. 02:57:36.600 --> 02:57:37.600 Let's have a look. 02:57:37.600 --> 02:57:40.600 Who's going to surprise who this is? 02:57:40.600 --> 02:57:42.600 It's a quite the wrap. 02:57:42.600 --> 02:57:44.120 to wrap around every day. 02:57:44.120 --> 02:57:45.320 Nine class? 02:57:45.320 --> 02:57:46.720 They've got the extra vision from the band 02:57:46.720 --> 02:57:47.960 so they see him first. 02:57:47.960 --> 02:57:49.320 I mean, he's dead. 02:57:49.320 --> 02:57:50.160 They're going to get him. 02:57:50.160 --> 02:57:55.120 See if they can give that, I guess, ideally to Ace. 02:57:55.120 --> 02:57:56.560 They have faithful guild. 02:57:56.560 --> 02:57:57.960 Can they close the gap? 02:57:57.960 --> 02:57:59.240 Oh, maybe they don't. 02:57:59.240 --> 02:57:59.920 Never mind. 02:57:59.920 --> 02:58:01.200 Nine class, he's fine. 02:58:01.200 --> 02:58:02.080 And now Tofu. 02:58:02.080 --> 02:58:04.080 Oh. 02:58:04.080 --> 02:58:05.160 Probably going to die. 02:58:05.160 --> 02:58:06.160 Yeah. 02:58:06.160 --> 02:58:08.040 He's going to get first-budded for sure. 02:58:08.040 --> 02:58:10.200 He'll at least be able to bring down the courier with him. 02:58:10.200 --> 02:58:15.200 but the cars will find first blood taking down tofu, so Tanya's going to get boxy as well. 02:58:16.200 --> 02:58:20.200 Boxy going for the kill, and Knight class will get a D-word from it. 02:58:20.200 --> 02:58:23.200 They killed the Fade Bolt instead of the Lyft to keep the Coddle near them. 02:58:23.200 --> 02:58:25.200 I think probably just for the laning thing too, right? 02:58:25.200 --> 02:58:26.200 Alright, sure. 02:58:26.200 --> 02:58:28.200 Fade Bolt's secure, but ends up hurting. 02:58:28.200 --> 02:58:30.200 Kind of went wrong when they looked for first blood last game. 02:58:30.200 --> 02:58:34.200 Maybe they could have kind of, you know, revisit how they looked for first bloods. 02:58:34.200 --> 02:58:38.200 They didn't go great game too at the start, they didn't go great game-free. 02:58:38.200 --> 02:58:39.160 Yeah, a bit of a slip up. 02:58:39.160 --> 02:58:40.280 Sometimes it does happen. 02:58:40.280 --> 02:58:42.840 You know, you really want to have fadbul, but sometimes lift is very effective 02:58:42.840 --> 02:58:44.640 and it doesn't end up making the miss out a couple of things. 02:58:44.640 --> 02:58:45.520 And they lose the ward. 02:58:45.520 --> 02:58:46.720 Top 9 plus... 02:58:46.720 --> 02:58:48.960 Plus did try to set up to lane super low. 02:58:48.960 --> 02:58:50.600 So, he's probably gonna die for that. 02:58:51.160 --> 02:58:51.960 And he uses... 02:58:51.960 --> 02:58:52.560 Ooh! 02:58:52.560 --> 02:58:53.560 Oh, no way! 02:58:53.560 --> 02:58:54.760 I killed Dodge there! 02:58:54.760 --> 02:58:55.280 Still nice. 02:58:55.280 --> 02:58:56.760 Of the raise, Wendy's still dead. 02:58:56.760 --> 02:58:58.680 But at least that would have denied the gold going away. 02:58:58.680 --> 02:58:59.360 Oh. 02:58:59.360 --> 02:58:59.960 Mckay. 02:58:59.960 --> 02:59:01.600 But now his lane partner is alone 02:59:01.600 --> 02:59:03.960 in an already pretty dangerous matchup. 02:59:03.960 --> 02:59:07.160 The wave is gonna push into him, but yeah, this is a very difficult lane for notice. 02:59:07.160 --> 02:59:11.920 And it's designed bottom TV see how he does versus the underlord rubik 02:59:12.720 --> 02:59:14.720 I mean this should be a lane right where 02:59:15.200 --> 02:59:18.400 He I mean they're going to try and believe this terrible 02:59:18.400 --> 02:59:19.680 I'm pretty early right there 02:59:19.680 --> 02:59:25.440 This should get a bit too much room once the levels start coming in the rubik underlord lane that we've seen countless times 02:59:25.480 --> 02:59:31.200 Yep, pretty much here at the streaming as soon as matter goes down right the lane start to be very difficult for satanic to walk up and go for 02:59:31.200 --> 02:59:35.000 Any type of effective trades now we finally get to talk about the mid you can talk about it 02:59:35.000 --> 02:59:42.600 So, Nisha on the cast, as far as you can see, this is his debut in terms of pro games with the hero, but look at some of these pub games. 02:59:42.600 --> 02:59:47.000 He beat my ass the other day. Twice, I think. It was not nice. 02:59:47.000 --> 02:59:52.000 Well, at least we can find records of a couple of games that he's played that were shared publicly. 02:59:52.000 --> 02:59:56.000 One of the games, yeah, this was against you, Fogdy, went 23-1 and 20. 02:59:56.000 --> 03:00:03.000 Yes, he did. He only died because he dove fountain, and we literally, we literally wanted to kill Nisha and call GG, and we did get him, so that was nice. 03:00:03.000 --> 03:00:06.000 He is definitely a cast player. I just haven't seen him from the mid lane. 03:00:06.000 --> 03:00:10.000 No. And these pubs, you know, these are unranked games. 03:00:10.000 --> 03:00:13.000 Both of them he did crush in. 03:00:13.000 --> 03:00:17.000 Both games went for a similar build. I think it's a little different, but the other cast is right. 03:00:17.000 --> 03:00:19.000 He gets the blink dagger a bit earlier than other castes. 03:00:19.000 --> 03:00:21.000 At least in those games, we'll see if he does that here. 03:00:21.000 --> 03:00:23.000 He was going for the mage slayer, then the blink. 03:00:23.000 --> 03:00:25.000 Yeah, I think he's just doing that because he's beating. 03:00:25.000 --> 03:00:26.000 He's plus a card. 03:00:26.000 --> 03:00:30.000 We're a bunch of noobs in comparison, and it's also like a 20k MMR disparity in those games. 03:00:30.000 --> 03:00:31.200 So you don't eat him. 03:00:31.200 --> 03:00:31.700 Sure. 03:00:31.700 --> 03:00:32.200 Got friends. 03:00:32.200 --> 03:00:36.500 Yeah, you don't think he goes blink that early in a program? 03:00:36.500 --> 03:00:38.400 He could, because he's the myth. 03:00:38.400 --> 03:00:40.800 So maybe he goes for backline jumping with this blink. 03:00:40.800 --> 03:00:41.800 So what to see what's the goal? 03:00:41.800 --> 03:00:42.600 They might be swimming to it. 03:00:42.600 --> 03:00:44.600 Get the blink early on the myth, guys. 03:00:44.600 --> 03:00:48.600 Top, as we said, noticed he's going to have a miserable time on the Timbersaw. 03:00:48.600 --> 03:00:49.100 Yep. 03:00:49.100 --> 03:00:52.600 Gets brought down from the big gate. 03:00:52.600 --> 03:00:53.800 Bottom. 03:00:53.800 --> 03:00:57.600 Actually, trying to contest, let's see if we can turn him. 03:00:57.600 --> 03:01:03.000 trooper base and it kind of doona here satanic gonna work yeah but that went 03:01:03.000 --> 03:01:05.720 wrong yeah liquid they they went for that they went for the drag back with 03:01:05.720 --> 03:01:10.200 the telekinesis back into the pit and satanic says oh sure I'll just turn and 03:01:10.200 --> 03:01:13.760 hit the underlord at melee range yeah usually not the case that we see happen 03:01:13.760 --> 03:01:17.360 with the TV versus the underlord but getting a bit overzealous on the side of 03:01:17.360 --> 03:01:20.120 liquid thinking that they can't just go for him without meta now he's gonna have 03:01:20.120 --> 03:01:23.120 meta for the next though too so that's actually a very big pick up satanic's 03:01:23.120 --> 03:01:25.120 able to get with Ducalus. 03:01:25.120 --> 03:01:29.480 In the first few minutes, he is having a much easier land than I feel like we would have 03:01:29.480 --> 03:01:33.740 seen other Terrablades or Maliheroes have against this Rubik under Lord Dua. 03:01:33.740 --> 03:01:36.080 They brought a lot of regen for him, so I didn't want to talk about that. 03:01:36.080 --> 03:01:40.320 It was actually double tango salve on Ducalus, and then they brought even more tango, so 03:01:40.320 --> 03:01:44.520 making sure he's at like a threshold of HP where he can fight after the Firestorm and 03:01:44.520 --> 03:01:45.520 the Fade Bolt. 03:01:45.520 --> 03:01:47.920 So pretty interesting how they do that. 03:01:47.920 --> 03:01:55.840 It looks like mid is pretty even so far here. 03:01:55.840 --> 03:02:00.560 The double spam of pango is very difficult to really shut down. 03:02:00.560 --> 03:02:02.040 Trying to drag the creep waves away from Asia. 03:02:02.040 --> 03:02:05.040 Doesn't want to play the lane in a normal kind of thing because you do get poked from 03:02:05.040 --> 03:02:07.920 the cast but you can just double clear waves constantly. 03:02:07.920 --> 03:02:09.920 Has nine classes as well. 03:02:09.920 --> 03:02:10.920 Coddle. 03:02:10.920 --> 03:02:11.920 Topu? 03:02:11.920 --> 03:02:14.920 We'll find nine class if you do a pretty good amount of damage here. 03:02:14.920 --> 03:02:19.920 He's hit enough though, he has 9 thick charges, so 9 class should be okay. 03:02:19.920 --> 03:02:21.920 Yeah, he'll be fine. 03:02:21.920 --> 03:02:24.920 He'll still keep chasing him and being very annoying though. 03:02:24.920 --> 03:02:26.920 Click and see what he's saying, the bane is very good. 03:02:26.920 --> 03:02:27.920 Oh yeah, he's behind! 03:02:27.920 --> 03:02:29.920 He actually was able to just walk up and brain-stab him. 03:02:29.920 --> 03:02:31.920 He did not respect the fact that... 03:02:31.920 --> 03:02:34.920 I can't tell if he would be able to reach in and do that. 03:02:34.920 --> 03:02:36.920 I didn't think he'd have to reach either. 03:02:36.920 --> 03:02:37.920 That was nuts. 03:02:37.920 --> 03:02:38.920 What I'm lying? 03:02:38.920 --> 03:02:41.920 He'll be able to kill us to Carlos, but Static, he's punching back pretty hard. 03:02:41.920 --> 03:02:43.920 TPR will be there for me. 03:02:43.920 --> 03:02:45.920 He gets him away from this. 03:02:46.920 --> 03:02:50.920 A 9 class having a rough entry into this game. Two deaths right away. 03:02:50.920 --> 03:02:53.920 After he does do a little juke at the start to survive. 03:02:53.920 --> 03:02:55.920 And his stacks, we were mentioning about the bane. 03:02:55.920 --> 03:02:59.920 It's always going to be very difficult to get stacks in there because you can just walk in, block them out. 03:02:59.920 --> 03:03:04.920 You're very good at just contesting versus gobbled because you can't trade versus the bane at all. 03:03:04.920 --> 03:03:05.920 I noticed. 03:03:05.920 --> 03:03:07.920 The left side up there. 03:03:07.920 --> 03:03:09.920 A couple of raises. 03:03:09.920 --> 03:03:10.920 A lot of damage. 03:03:10.920 --> 03:03:15.400 Oh, they tried to put the tree in front of him to block the timber chain. That was close. 03:03:15.400 --> 03:03:19.920 That would have been smart. Doesn't quite work out. He's still able to pull himself back to safety. 03:03:19.920 --> 03:03:21.920 That was so close to them blocking it. 03:03:22.920 --> 03:03:25.920 He still can't really step up though, so he continues to be very problematic. 03:03:25.920 --> 03:03:29.920 I say this, he actually has 22 last hits, though, and Ace is only at 14. 03:03:29.920 --> 03:03:33.920 So Ace is actually having just the difficult of a time down here. 03:03:33.920 --> 03:03:44.540 I think Liquid would definitely have hoped to be able to shut down the Terriblade a little 03:03:44.540 --> 03:03:47.380 bit more in these first five minutes and they've not been able to. 03:03:47.380 --> 03:03:50.720 At least put some pressure on him, not in case of whatsoever, Nisha will get the Arcane 03:03:50.720 --> 03:03:53.960 rune. 03:03:53.960 --> 03:03:59.120 No one, not quite level six, won't get going on. 03:03:59.120 --> 03:04:00.720 Fantastic start for Sotanic. 03:04:00.720 --> 03:04:04.360 Mika Mika is a little bit ahead, but it's designed to be that way right with the shadow fiend 03:04:04.360 --> 03:04:06.440 It's supposed to be the ones that have that advantage 03:04:07.240 --> 03:04:09.240 Bassatonic definitely super happy 03:04:10.760 --> 03:04:12.760 Notice gonna start just cutting some creep waves 03:04:13.200 --> 03:04:15.920 Getting what he can so he doesn't play in the face of the shadow fiend himself 03:04:21.520 --> 03:04:22.800 Good catch 03:04:22.800 --> 03:04:27.040 To call this getting a little too aggressive is gonna be a third death for him 03:04:27.040 --> 03:04:32.040 This lane, the power, you just get caught on the side there. Pretty much an instant kill with the double pits. 03:04:34.040 --> 03:04:38.040 There's still a low level phrase in particular. There's still only level 4, except how this lane has played out. 03:04:38.040 --> 03:04:43.040 We'll have some stacks to go back to. They're gonna probably get buff wisdoms while they'll see that those look like it. 03:04:44.040 --> 03:04:48.040 Hard to contest being, unless you bring multiple heroes because you just nightmare you and pull you out of it. 03:04:48.040 --> 03:04:56.940 of it. Double shrines, stacking camps as well. Liquid, taking boxes in this early game as 03:04:56.940 --> 03:05:03.600 Tofu is also going to look to at least annoying notice. Sleep him, let the creeps just walk 03:05:03.600 --> 03:05:18.160 away. Very annoying. No one does step into the triangle of liquid. We'll be able to 03:05:18.160 --> 03:05:23.480 take away a couple of these stacks, at least the medium camp, and re-block it. And Satanic 03:05:23.480 --> 03:05:29.640 continues just laying bottom. Not too much threat on him. 03:05:29.640 --> 03:05:31.640 I don't know at all. 03:05:31.640 --> 03:05:33.640 One zero two. 03:05:33.640 --> 03:05:35.640 Looking to set up now for notice. 03:05:35.640 --> 03:05:37.640 Mickey, this is a interesting positioning. 03:05:37.640 --> 03:05:39.640 Ah, this ain't his base, notice. 03:05:43.640 --> 03:05:45.640 And Mickey, one more raise. 03:05:47.640 --> 03:05:49.640 Ooh, he's gonna work for her. 03:05:49.640 --> 03:05:51.640 He's gonna make her work for her. 03:05:51.640 --> 03:05:53.640 A little honor, but a boxy will be there, it's in short. 03:05:53.640 --> 03:05:55.640 The notice is handed back over to was Mickey. 03:05:55.640 --> 03:05:57.640 Well, okay, the boxy takes the kill himself. 03:05:57.640 --> 03:06:01.080 Let's say box and take it out the case don't you tell me that no, it's like 03:06:02.080 --> 03:06:07.080 Okay, you wanted that one didn't you? Yeah, they're gonna smoke make a out to get back to the lane 03:06:07.080 --> 03:06:10.440 But a lot of time lost I think to creep waves and maybe you are more yeah 03:06:10.440 --> 03:06:14.040 That was quite a big move for me get ahead out of the lane to go for yeah 03:06:14.960 --> 03:06:18.360 My costume overall report boxy for taking the kill 03:06:20.480 --> 03:06:24.480 The box is like but I tp'd over you know, it's not a make it 03:06:24.480 --> 03:06:27.640 It happens. 03:06:27.640 --> 03:06:31.640 A group of players always want to take curiosity stacks. 03:06:31.640 --> 03:06:36.720 Nisha, looking to steal the stacks that the pango had taken away from this side, pango 03:06:36.720 --> 03:06:42.600 though will be able to clear out again almost all of these and has the chakra always constantly. 03:06:42.600 --> 03:06:44.840 A very good chakra game. 03:06:44.840 --> 03:06:46.840 All three cores thrive on it. 03:06:46.840 --> 03:06:59.840 I just wanted to set up here with a wraparound, to Carl, let's try Mikkei, so he turns up to this top lane, and Mikkei, last sort of minute gameplay there, it's going to feel pretty rough for him right. 03:06:59.840 --> 03:07:06.840 I'm going to go back to the base, spend all that time trying to get a kill, gets brought back out to the lane, and then suddenly the whole of Paravision turns up. 03:07:06.840 --> 03:07:13.840 And if anything, the design of Liquid's draft, if they're the ones who kind of want to be doing that, they're the Terriblade, not the Terriblade wrapping around the shadow lane and being ahead now at this point. 03:07:13.840 --> 03:07:18.040 this point. This is a phenomenal start for Satanic. Yeah, he's having a great beginning here. 03:07:18.040 --> 03:07:21.280 And his hero is the one that wants to have that super late game scaling liquid. They 03:07:21.280 --> 03:07:25.200 definitely want to have an advantage into this mid game here. So, hemorrhaging some kills. 03:07:25.200 --> 03:07:30.160 And mid game, as you said, not just hemorrhaging kills, but wasting quite a bit of time there. 03:07:33.660 --> 03:07:37.480 That was super heads up move from Satanic. It immediately goes back toward bottom, up 03:07:37.480 --> 03:07:42.320 to 5k net worth, pre-10 minutes. Couldn't ask for a better start on this Terrorblade. 03:07:42.320 --> 03:07:50.000 And overall, how good is the game for an SF, right, because we don't see this hero, you know, it's not the hottest carrier right now. 03:07:50.000 --> 03:07:54.880 Strong in mid-game, it definitely starts to hit a bit of an issue, right, as that game does progress. 03:07:54.880 --> 03:08:00.600 And Pango can cause you some issues if he's not controlled, right, so it's gonna be up to the Bane, the Fiends Grip in particular, 03:08:00.600 --> 03:08:06.520 or if somehow the Rubik's Steel sometimes has a Soulbind, which would never happen, for them to, yeah, protect Vicki, 03:08:06.520 --> 03:08:11.000 because if he just gets rolled on early, there's quite a bit of magic damage that also can't be threatened. 03:08:12.320 --> 03:08:16.160 So pass that to protection of the front line, and we'll see how the Kess works out, right? 03:08:16.160 --> 03:08:19.680 It's not that traditional mid hero that you have with something like a Shadow Fiend. 03:08:22.240 --> 03:08:25.120 I do start falling behind, obviously with last game we saw 03:08:25.120 --> 03:08:27.760 Mid K being able to turn the game when he was on the Kess. 03:08:28.560 --> 03:08:31.760 Might be one of the, you know, another game where it's on the Kess again, 03:08:31.760 --> 03:08:34.880 but this time in hands of Nisha to see if he can turn it around if they do 03:08:34.880 --> 03:08:36.640 continue to fall behind this game, Liquid. 03:08:36.640 --> 03:08:40.640 Yeah, let's see if Mid K maybe changes the build a little for something more mid game fighting 03:08:40.640 --> 03:08:42.960 so that the Kans can have some type of later scaling. 03:08:42.960 --> 03:08:46.240 I don't know if you can really deviate though with the build this time on Mickey so much. 03:08:47.040 --> 03:08:48.560 So we'll have to see what he does want to do. 03:08:51.200 --> 03:08:53.040 Lots of stacks being made, both teams. 03:08:54.320 --> 03:08:57.520 Gonna back up, finish up that timing, no one is about to have to fuse up later. 03:08:57.520 --> 03:08:59.920 You have to always talk about the pango with the coddle. 03:08:59.920 --> 03:09:04.080 Right, this coddle. Chakra on pango, Chakra on timber, Chakra on the tb. 03:09:04.640 --> 03:09:05.280 Very strong. 03:09:05.280 --> 03:09:13.200 The tofu's still not quite level 6. 03:09:13.200 --> 03:09:26.120 Just shy of it from the fiends grip. 03:09:26.120 --> 03:09:28.480 Fiendscape is at the ready always, so prepare a vision. 03:09:28.480 --> 03:09:32.480 Do have to be aware that that extra number can always come in from liquid. 03:09:32.480 --> 03:09:39.480 So right now, content with being able to sit back and farm, and it feels great if Satanic's able to just occupy this area still at this point. 03:09:40.480 --> 03:09:42.480 Kind of a very good timing on Atlanta. 03:09:46.480 --> 03:09:49.480 Sank up around the power room. It's going to be... 03:09:50.480 --> 03:09:51.480 ... just using it. 03:09:52.480 --> 03:09:56.480 Misha still looking to try and close in on the mage lap. 03:09:56.480 --> 03:09:57.480 You saw nothing? 03:09:57.480 --> 03:10:04.680 Stacks being made to continuously so this timber is getting enabled nicely to just back up reset not have to lane vs the SF 03:10:04.680 --> 03:10:06.680 Not have to worry about getting killed either 03:10:08.400 --> 03:10:11.720 Let's see what they catch ace quite vulnerable here 03:10:13.400 --> 03:10:16.280 Boxing we'll be able to play out 03:10:16.280 --> 03:10:27.960 Have this deep ward top still placed from the side of Paravision. 03:10:27.960 --> 03:10:30.920 They know that Mika and Tofu are up here. 03:10:30.920 --> 03:10:33.000 They want to do some type of clever flank play. 03:10:33.000 --> 03:10:34.560 They have great information. 03:10:34.560 --> 03:10:42.320 Okay, we'll slow down slightly here. 03:10:42.320 --> 03:10:48.160 Nisha looking to disrupt facts with his illusion and he will be able to disrupt the entrance 03:10:48.160 --> 03:10:49.160 that very annoying. 03:10:49.160 --> 03:10:54.160 They know that Paravision is sitting back playing that economy game. 03:10:54.160 --> 03:10:55.160 Imagine. 03:10:55.160 --> 03:11:01.880 Once Nisha does have that first time surely you'd be dead. 03:11:01.880 --> 03:11:05.080 That's when you'd kind of smoke up and try and make plays with the supports agreed. 03:11:05.080 --> 03:11:06.240 They have beanscape now available. 03:11:06.240 --> 03:11:10.440 Parapins, beans, grip, beanscape available so they do have multiple ways they can set 03:11:10.440 --> 03:11:11.440 up for these fights. 03:11:11.440 --> 03:11:13.920 And definitely don't want to play too slow on the side of Liquid, right? 03:11:13.920 --> 03:11:16.720 Playing versus this draft of Paravision which scales very hard. 03:11:16.720 --> 03:11:19.760 You want to try to get some moves to get yourself at least into some advantage, 03:11:19.760 --> 03:11:21.920 since you did lose the first tower of the game. 03:11:25.760 --> 03:11:28.080 Watch them get the chance up top. 03:11:28.080 --> 03:11:29.760 Can they get the catch here? 03:11:29.760 --> 03:11:30.800 The two supports. 03:11:31.520 --> 03:11:34.240 Because they have the fiends game, but with these two, they haven't the damage. 03:11:35.680 --> 03:11:36.720 It's going to be the question. 03:11:36.720 --> 03:11:42.720 I think they don't really want to do it for a call. 03:11:42.720 --> 03:11:44.720 I guess they'll just settle for it. 03:11:44.720 --> 03:11:47.720 They have to damage with the two supports for this. 03:11:47.720 --> 03:11:52.720 I guess the game slowed down to the point where it's like, well, they'll drop an ult. 03:11:52.720 --> 03:11:54.720 Get something. 03:11:54.720 --> 03:11:58.720 They maybe wanted to try some type of shrine steal, right, but they'll run into a coddle. 03:11:58.720 --> 03:12:00.720 They'll be able to get an unnoticed. 03:12:00.720 --> 03:12:02.720 Exchange there's ace. 03:12:02.720 --> 03:12:04.720 Going for the crimson. 03:12:04.720 --> 03:12:10.320 So at least we'll have that protection. Good versus the physical damage that's coming up that there's a good amount of hybrid, of course, on paravision. 03:12:16.320 --> 03:12:17.920 Game slowed down quite a lot here. 03:12:17.920 --> 03:12:22.320 I'll just let the guy into joint together now, maybe on paravision to do something. 03:12:26.720 --> 03:12:29.120 That's if they want to. Do they are hitting creeps pretty effectively. 03:12:29.120 --> 03:12:43.120 The satanic is just chilling, and now that he has Manta too, the speed of the farm is just going to increase to that much more, especially once he gets to that shard too, so I mean satanic probably being like, I'm chilling, guys. 03:12:43.120 --> 03:12:50.120 We're stacking, we're being more efficient around the map, they are going to make the move, look to shut things down to Grim plus the pango, very strong duo. 03:12:50.120 --> 03:12:54.120 Can't kill pretty much anybody, any of these cores in particular. 03:12:56.120 --> 03:12:59.120 And I like to see that Ducalus is putting more points in Fanta. 03:12:59.120 --> 03:13:04.120 Put a couple points in Stroke of Fate, maybe just for spam early, but that third point in Fanta is crucial. 03:13:08.120 --> 03:13:10.120 And make it definitely vulnerable. 03:13:10.120 --> 03:13:13.120 As you said, if you get on top of him... 03:13:13.120 --> 03:13:23.120 He has to have protection from his allies. Tofu does have a paddus to protect. 03:13:23.120 --> 03:13:28.120 Just making sure that there's no way of them catching the SF right now. 03:13:28.120 --> 03:13:31.120 Yeah, I mean Tofu has to just hug him here at this point. 03:13:31.120 --> 03:13:38.120 Fiends grip up in 10 seconds, making the long move across Paravision unable to find anything. 03:13:38.120 --> 03:13:40.120 Both teams in the creeps. 03:13:46.120 --> 03:13:48.120 And there's the shard, first mechanic. 03:13:51.120 --> 03:13:53.120 Let's see what Liquid wants to try to force a little more here. 03:13:53.120 --> 03:13:55.120 They're probably also quite content being able to sit back in creeps. 03:13:55.120 --> 03:13:58.120 Yeah, I think the next attack thing is like, well, everyone's happy. 03:13:58.120 --> 03:14:02.120 I could just farm a good Decepto timing, which is, actually, he's alternating still. 03:14:02.120 --> 03:14:05.120 He's considering Manta or Yashakaya or Decepto. 03:14:05.120 --> 03:14:09.880 I wish in a few different ones being queued up. I'm not blink. Unfortunately the pop build 03:14:11.720 --> 03:14:13.720 Because I'm like, yeah, what do you mean? 03:14:15.080 --> 03:14:16.280 Would you 03:14:16.280 --> 03:14:18.880 Yeah, can you get away with going for the desert that he was eyeing up? 03:14:18.880 --> 03:14:21.520 What do you think you will need to get the man to first stop to have a dispel? 03:14:21.520 --> 03:14:23.240 I think it depends on the next fight. Yep 03:14:23.240 --> 03:14:25.760 If you do have a very successful fight, you might just go the desktop, right? 03:14:25.760 --> 03:14:30.520 But if you end up dying because of something might just go back to the man, so we shall see has an end damage 03:14:35.120 --> 03:14:47.680 Yeah, both teams are very happy in the grids, but I really can't blame them. 03:14:47.680 --> 03:14:51.460 It's a gas TB, potentially a king of late game eventually, but Liquid Straf also does 03:14:51.460 --> 03:14:52.960 scale pretty hard with this cast. 03:14:52.960 --> 03:14:54.960 They do find a catch on to notice. 03:14:54.960 --> 03:15:00.160 Another grip, another rat grip, no mercy. 03:15:00.160 --> 03:15:07.160 a very good steal for Boxy is able to get the Chakram as well. 03:15:07.160 --> 03:15:10.660 A bit easier I would say for Liquid to make these moves, right? 03:15:10.660 --> 03:15:14.160 When you look at the side of Paravision, it's kind of along the pangora, yeah? 03:15:14.160 --> 03:15:17.660 To make those step-up moves, they can absolutely look to build with Liquid with this of course. 03:15:17.660 --> 03:15:22.160 It's quite a bit easier here. 03:15:22.160 --> 03:15:25.160 Bottom, looking for the Plank, Link on no one. 03:15:25.160 --> 03:15:26.660 No one to try guys. 03:15:26.660 --> 03:15:27.660 was used. 03:15:27.660 --> 03:15:28.660 He's very dead. 03:15:28.660 --> 03:15:34.460 Nine men to try and get him out of this post, they're telling him to step in forward and 03:15:34.460 --> 03:15:39.140 having the damage to bring the Underlord down, continue to keep his game on top, they're 03:15:39.140 --> 03:15:40.140 telling him. 03:15:40.140 --> 03:15:41.140 Looking for more, Boxing, he's caught. 03:15:41.140 --> 03:15:42.140 Coming in the rumor. 03:15:42.140 --> 03:15:43.140 One. 03:15:43.140 --> 03:15:48.140 Very quick to swing over and help them find another. 03:15:48.140 --> 03:15:49.140 No one. 03:15:49.140 --> 03:15:50.860 We said he has to be the one to make those moves. 03:15:50.860 --> 03:15:54.300 It will be able to find a double immediately after that fiend's grip is used and I think 03:15:54.300 --> 03:15:56.180 that's probably what he's waiting for, right there. 03:15:56.180 --> 03:16:01.500 Bane use fiend script no one you can play the game go for the place so immediately that was used they get some big kills 03:16:01.500 --> 03:16:06.800 And perhaps now we're gonna see tofu not use fiend script in the next few moments right? Yeah hang on to for the pango 03:16:07.940 --> 03:16:12.780 Can't get suddenly punished that cooldown. Yeah, cuz in hindsight right top. They probably didn't even need it 03:16:12.780 --> 03:16:15.620 Right you could have just flat to get the wreck we have the group it's there 03:16:15.620 --> 03:16:20.580 They couldn't potentially just have to hang on to that fiend script. So I want to see him probably hold on to it 03:16:26.180 --> 03:16:36.180 No one with a shield run for the upcoming fight, also shard soon for him, and Tormentor soon gonna be on the horizon in a minute and fifteen seconds. 03:16:36.180 --> 03:16:47.180 And for the side of Power Vision, they've been able to claim all three T1s, so have a good amount, a little bit more information, a little more access to the Roche and the Tormentor than the side of Liquid does at the moment. 03:16:48.180 --> 03:16:50.180 He did go Mantle, by the way, so... 03:16:50.180 --> 03:16:55.780 Ships after the build of Bully's with my Trinch the BKB. 03:16:55.780 --> 03:16:58.980 Make sure I'm in mid, Kaz. 03:16:58.980 --> 03:17:02.100 I don't know, Statenik is getting too much farm. 03:17:02.100 --> 03:17:05.500 There's not much, there's like no pressure on him whatsoever with the Shadow Fiend so 03:17:05.500 --> 03:17:06.500 far here. 03:17:06.500 --> 03:17:10.460 I was the Kazed last game of course and then, didn't matter at the end of it, they were 03:17:10.460 --> 03:17:16.460 able to turn things around but you and him, imagine what, in this situation, it is going 03:17:16.460 --> 03:17:19.460 to be harder to turn a game around against the Statenik. 03:17:19.460 --> 03:17:21.460 Terriblade as opposed to his... 03:17:21.460 --> 03:17:21.960 Yes. 03:17:21.960 --> 03:17:22.460 Necropulse? 03:17:22.460 --> 03:17:24.460 I mean that last game also, there's a point of... 03:17:24.460 --> 03:17:26.460 There's some things to be said about it. 03:17:26.460 --> 03:17:27.460 But yeah. 03:17:27.460 --> 03:17:28.960 He's in a very happy spot. 03:17:28.960 --> 03:17:32.460 It's in the old days, which is still kind of transferred over, right? 03:17:32.460 --> 03:17:35.460 TB versus SF, this matchup, it's very good for the Terriblade. 03:17:35.460 --> 03:17:37.960 You get the illusion, of course, eventually the reflection. 03:17:37.960 --> 03:17:39.960 If you do get it on the SF, you get the auras as well. 03:17:39.960 --> 03:17:43.960 The enemy team can be very, very powerful as the game progresses later on. 03:17:44.960 --> 03:17:48.460 But that's where perhaps the kez is the X-Factor, so we'll have to see him, Terriblade. 03:17:49.460 --> 03:17:56.460 No one. With the shield runes, we'll also find an invist, and fiendscript as we said for Tofu. 03:17:56.460 --> 03:17:59.460 Very likely to just be helped for the rest of this game, just for that kind of thing. 03:18:03.460 --> 03:18:04.460 Barbarians are chillin'. 03:18:07.460 --> 03:18:09.460 Hitting those creeps. Scaling. 03:18:09.460 --> 03:18:12.460 The 9 class. Holy locked. It's done. It has a 4 staff. 03:18:13.460 --> 03:18:15.460 It's starting to get very rich on these supports. 03:18:16.460 --> 03:18:18.460 It's starting to catch up to you in the underboard. 03:18:19.460 --> 03:18:20.460 That's a big kill! 03:18:20.460 --> 03:18:21.460 Ooh! 03:18:21.460 --> 03:18:22.460 Eagle's throwing. 03:18:22.460 --> 03:18:27.460 That is quite the snipe there from the side of it. 03:18:27.460 --> 03:18:29.460 They're just going to go into the road stop of this. 03:18:29.460 --> 03:18:30.460 This is easy. 03:18:30.460 --> 03:18:31.460 Alright. 03:18:31.460 --> 03:18:33.460 I don't think that was unexpected. 03:18:33.460 --> 03:18:34.460 Not at all. 03:18:34.460 --> 03:18:37.460 I looked like they're looking up at the toolmatch instead, so... 03:18:37.460 --> 03:18:38.460 Head's up. 03:18:38.460 --> 03:18:39.460 I don't need to try. 03:18:39.460 --> 03:18:40.460 Very heads up though. 03:18:40.460 --> 03:18:41.460 So they have TP's. 03:18:41.460 --> 03:18:45.460 They all have TP's if they do know. 03:18:45.460 --> 03:18:46.460 They're quick! 03:18:46.460 --> 03:18:48.460 But it doesn't seem like they do. 03:18:48.460 --> 03:18:53.460 wisdom skill instead. It's a liquid look and away with this. 03:18:57.460 --> 03:19:00.460 It's gonna be an Aegis and Bob or an Aegis and fight. 03:19:00.460 --> 03:19:04.460 I would imagine an Aegis and fight, right? Especially that they killed the Eagle song too. 03:19:04.460 --> 03:19:07.460 Can't look for some windows. 03:19:07.460 --> 03:19:11.460 The difficulty so far, they haven't really been able to find that fight. 03:19:11.460 --> 03:19:18.420 Just some small pick-offs here and there, we're not able to find Mr. Tanig. 03:19:18.420 --> 03:19:20.420 300 last hits on him. 03:19:20.420 --> 03:19:21.420 The butterfly. 03:19:21.420 --> 03:19:23.420 He'll have it as soon as the courier respawns. 03:19:23.420 --> 03:19:27.420 So let's see, can they make a move? 03:19:27.420 --> 03:19:28.420 That's the question. 03:19:28.420 --> 03:19:33.420 Didn't you make your force to make that move? 03:19:33.420 --> 03:19:34.420 Doesn't look like it. 03:19:34.420 --> 03:19:38.140 They feel like they're like, okay, get 10, hit the creeps, we'll keep scaling as well. 03:19:38.140 --> 03:19:39.140 Alright. 03:19:39.140 --> 03:19:43.820 I mean, that, that, it definitely feels less of confidence, because scaling into the Satanic's Terrablade, 03:19:44.820 --> 03:19:47.760 it just seems like there's kinda less 03:19:48.820 --> 03:19:53.260 easy ways to piece together a fight to destroy a Terrablade that's, you know, 03:19:53.260 --> 03:19:56.800 it's going to probably be an item or so ahead of you, as opposed to, like, 03:19:56.800 --> 03:20:00.040 what you can get to deal with the Necrophos, right? It's a bit clearer 03:20:00.600 --> 03:20:03.660 when it's the Necrophos, when it's the Terrablade, not as easy. 03:20:03.660 --> 03:20:05.540 Yeah, one's a mid-game, one's a late-game. 03:20:06.020 --> 03:20:07.240 Have ways to force counter it. 03:20:07.240 --> 03:20:11.440 No one does have to- those have been gathering out greater healing lotuses, so they do have a very early one. 03:20:11.440 --> 03:20:14.880 It's 22 minutes in and they have a greater healing lotus on the pango. 03:20:14.880 --> 03:20:17.760 So that's like almost all the lotus pools that they've been able to pick up for him. 03:20:18.760 --> 03:20:22.840 It's a pretty vast- pretty big injection of HP that he'll have for the fight. 03:20:24.800 --> 03:20:26.400 Liquid? Looks like they are grouping up. 03:20:29.280 --> 03:20:32.320 Do they go for the fight? They were grouping up like they wanted to spawn, and then they're like- 03:20:32.320 --> 03:20:33.320 Yeah! 03:20:33.320 --> 03:20:35.320 They really don't want to make a move right now, it seems. 03:20:35.320 --> 03:20:40.200 Maybe someone made the call. I'm close to X item, right? Maybe ace is like, hey, I'm halfway to agony. Sure 03:20:40.200 --> 03:20:43.940 I mean, yeah, he's going in on the axe. We're seeing Mickey looking for the silver edge 03:20:43.960 --> 03:20:48.240 Okay, I'm working his way towards and I was in each year very close to 03:20:49.360 --> 03:20:52.580 It's about two thousand three hundred away from I'm the goal for the full DKB 03:20:52.580 --> 03:20:57.040 My worry is of course how big the terribly but it's also how much nine classes getting out of the map like this 03:20:57.040 --> 03:21:03.320 Cattle is nothing to lap in in team fights. How much he does he heals an insane amount if he's not addressed immediately at the start 03:21:03.320 --> 03:21:07.420 the fights and the fact that he can just shock her and enable all three cores is insane and 03:21:07.420 --> 03:21:08.420 here comes the butterfly. 03:21:08.420 --> 03:21:09.420 Okay. 03:21:09.420 --> 03:21:14.440 I mean last time obviously for Liquid, letting the Necrophotree farm, it worked out at the 03:21:14.440 --> 03:21:16.080 end of the day. 03:21:16.080 --> 03:21:20.680 Is letting the Terraflate free farm gonna work out at the same fashion? 03:21:20.680 --> 03:21:21.680 Yeah. 03:21:21.680 --> 03:21:22.680 I mean last game it was like a 20 something. 03:21:22.680 --> 03:21:26.440 Like the gold we got pretty fast and comical pretty quickly so that whole decision. 03:21:26.440 --> 03:21:27.440 Quite a different game. 03:21:27.440 --> 03:21:30.160 Mica, maybe the college wait for Shadowblade. 03:21:30.160 --> 03:21:31.160 He's 150 away. 03:21:31.160 --> 03:21:32.160 Okay. 03:21:32.160 --> 03:21:33.160 about two minutes. 03:21:37.040 --> 03:21:38.760 Feels like Paravision though, they might be the ones 03:21:38.760 --> 03:21:40.080 to look for the fight now themselves 03:21:40.080 --> 03:21:43.280 with that butterfly though, and they are gonna smoke. 03:21:43.280 --> 03:21:45.620 Aisha does have the Aegis. 03:21:52.320 --> 03:21:53.720 They saw the shadow feed for a second, 03:21:53.720 --> 03:21:56.480 they see Boxy also, no one thinking about the jump. 03:21:57.960 --> 03:21:59.440 Micky has to be so careful. 03:21:59.440 --> 03:22:00.440 Oh, he does! 03:22:00.440 --> 03:22:14.240 I think we're gonna find a tarfer. 03:22:14.240 --> 03:22:18.720 Clean easy kills, potentially going for a tower here as well to make a hash shadow blade. 03:22:18.720 --> 03:22:24.720 You wanna go for a very risky play here, the last century's already placed down. 03:22:24.720 --> 03:22:26.720 I'm not sure what that is. 03:22:26.720 --> 03:22:29.720 How do you catch them by surprise? 03:22:29.720 --> 03:22:31.720 He's caught. 03:22:31.720 --> 03:22:33.720 He's directly on T'Kalis. 03:22:33.720 --> 03:22:35.720 The Heals come out, T'Kalis. 03:22:35.720 --> 03:22:38.720 We'll get both of them by the Cairns, but he's still alive, T'Kalis. 03:22:38.720 --> 03:22:41.720 We survived him for the initial attack from the two of them. 03:22:41.720 --> 03:22:42.720 Greater healing lotus. 03:22:42.720 --> 03:22:43.720 He's fine. 03:22:43.720 --> 03:22:45.720 They look towards K'Tanik instead. 03:22:45.720 --> 03:22:48.720 K'Tanik has got the Thunder at the ready, if necessary. 03:22:48.720 --> 03:22:50.720 The Heals from nine classes. 03:22:50.720 --> 03:22:52.720 K'Tanik's getting body blocks. 03:22:52.720 --> 03:22:54.720 Should be okay, Nisha. 03:22:54.720 --> 03:22:57.720 I'll discover the kills. I'm just gonna bring him down low, Nisha. 03:22:58.720 --> 03:23:00.720 Of course, how's the Aegis still for just under a minute? 03:23:00.720 --> 03:23:05.720 Those Heals, it was Holy Locket, Illuminate, and then the Greater Healing Lotus that I was eventually... 03:23:05.720 --> 03:23:06.720 They couldn't kill this Grim! 03:23:06.720 --> 03:23:08.720 Nope, it actually just gets enough. 03:23:08.720 --> 03:23:11.720 Almost dies at the end of it. 50 HP onto Ducalis. 03:23:11.720 --> 03:23:13.720 Those almost take away. 03:23:13.720 --> 03:23:16.720 But they do keep their bunny alive. Of course, a lot of reactions. 03:23:16.720 --> 03:23:22.720 Look at that, watch all the heals that came out, 9 class, truly coming in clutch. 03:23:22.720 --> 03:23:26.720 Four staff, holy lock it, illuminate, and then... 03:23:26.720 --> 03:23:28.720 Ah, we're in the Lotus. 03:23:31.720 --> 03:23:38.720 Literally every tiny thing coming into play, because even if the holy lock amplifying the heals, at least little things, pretty cool. 03:23:40.720 --> 03:23:42.720 Ages, we'll get reclaimed. 03:23:46.720 --> 03:23:52.280 team's being very cautious with how they approach this game. Last one. Got a bit crazy. Pretty 03:23:52.280 --> 03:23:55.240 fast. This one. Very low kill score. 03:23:58.740 --> 03:24:01.240 We do have the aggadims now on ace. 03:24:01.240 --> 03:24:05.120 Okay, so for them, team fight control has gone up drastically. 03:24:05.120 --> 03:24:10.520 Yeah, BKB is now done for Nisha so he can commit a little bit easier in the fights without 03:24:10.520 --> 03:24:12.280 fights to be concerned about. 03:24:12.280 --> 03:24:15.880 Let's see if this was the timings with the silver edge for Micae all together. 03:24:15.880 --> 03:24:18.380 Yeah, pretty much, yeah. He runs you away from having that. 03:24:18.380 --> 03:24:19.380 Alright. 03:24:20.380 --> 03:24:22.880 Does feel like a pretty strong timing with what they're up against. 03:24:22.880 --> 03:24:23.880 I think so. 03:24:23.880 --> 03:24:26.880 I don't know if you want to let this Terraplate get his next die and get that Scali. 03:24:28.380 --> 03:24:30.880 Starting to beat on the towers. Another tier two. 03:24:31.880 --> 03:24:33.380 Just drops in seconds. 03:24:35.880 --> 03:24:39.380 Cause that's the thing right, when it's the Terraplate, if you lose a bad fight, 03:24:39.380 --> 03:24:40.880 he's going to be cleaning up your base. 03:24:40.880 --> 03:24:42.880 There's one thing that obviously Sartana could do on the Terraplate, 03:24:42.880 --> 03:24:46.280 Which even though they were that far ahead on the necrophos the last game 03:24:46.280 --> 03:24:51.340 It's not your base does the giant seconds to a necrophos regardless of how much farming has 03:24:52.000 --> 03:24:54.000 a terrible blade on the other hand 03:24:54.040 --> 03:24:56.280 Basin's gonna disappear in seconds. Nisha 03:24:58.520 --> 03:25:01.080 Dangerous position here, but hasn't answered plus BKB 03:25:02.640 --> 03:25:05.360 No one the very aggressive roll forward 03:25:05.360 --> 03:25:11.360 I think they can smoke and fight after that, they know the role was used. 03:25:11.360 --> 03:25:13.360 They can put the Estus Distiller. 03:25:15.360 --> 03:25:18.360 They just got a bunch of timings together. 03:25:20.360 --> 03:25:22.360 Ace at the ready. 03:25:24.360 --> 03:25:27.360 Chasmstone as well, so gigantic gates are going to be coming in. 03:25:29.360 --> 03:25:32.360 Ags for the pango, but no role for 60. Something to look into dodge. 03:25:35.360 --> 03:25:39.360 Get this position Ignicia, sneaking forward. 03:25:39.360 --> 03:25:42.360 Alright, settle for the 9th blast again. 03:25:42.360 --> 03:25:45.360 Kibby's gonna be popped right away by notice. 03:25:45.360 --> 03:25:48.360 I'll turn and indeed just get the call. 03:25:48.360 --> 03:25:50.360 Can they get another kill? Wisdom? 03:25:50.360 --> 03:25:52.360 Might be able to take that one away. 03:25:52.360 --> 03:25:54.360 Looks like the Tannik was scared to walk down. 03:25:57.360 --> 03:25:59.360 So we're looking for a kill. 03:25:59.360 --> 03:26:01.360 We'll be able to find a feedscape. 03:26:01.360 --> 03:26:03.360 Used. Easy find on the coddle. 03:26:03.360 --> 03:26:05.360 advantage of that pangol roll but not finding a core kill. 03:26:15.360 --> 03:26:17.360 Back up and get the crew waves. 03:26:17.360 --> 03:26:19.360 Liquid. 03:26:19.360 --> 03:26:21.360 We're seeing the Kessner, right? 03:26:21.360 --> 03:26:23.360 Nisha is farming very hard. 03:26:23.360 --> 03:26:25.360 Look at the pango starting to fall at least behind in terms of farm. 03:26:25.360 --> 03:26:27.360 So the scaling is absolutely coming from 03:26:27.360 --> 03:26:29.360 the two core distances we see from liquid. 03:26:29.360 --> 03:26:32.800 Let's see if the game plan does work though, right? 03:26:32.800 --> 03:26:36.680 As this narrowly continues to have this farm, Sheva's not finished up for notice. 03:26:36.680 --> 03:26:38.360 He's had a very quiet game on this temperament. 03:26:38.360 --> 03:26:40.160 He's 0-3-1. 03:26:40.160 --> 03:26:41.160 Very farmed. 03:26:41.160 --> 03:26:47.360 He's game more than those someone's in the trees. 03:26:47.360 --> 03:26:48.360 It's time for... 03:26:48.360 --> 03:26:49.360 Get the catch. 03:26:49.360 --> 03:26:51.360 Get the catch. 03:26:55.360 --> 03:26:57.360 Should be able to finish him with one more shot from. 03:26:59.360 --> 03:27:02.360 I don't want the Creteware coming in on the spot of light. Ready to push on it. 03:27:02.360 --> 03:27:03.360 It's a one. 03:27:03.360 --> 03:27:08.360 Roche is a very long respawn timer. Could have been a fortunate scenario for them if it was a quicker one. 03:27:09.360 --> 03:27:11.360 But another two or two to pressure with this terror blade. 03:27:11.360 --> 03:27:20.560 is terribly they seem to know where the cast and potentially boxy are to I think 03:27:20.560 --> 03:27:24.280 man now we saw the courier told us what to do they're gonna smoke they have 03:27:24.280 --> 03:27:30.960 vision on top sides they don't make is also isolated off they find me gay here 03:27:30.960 --> 03:27:36.920 that would be pretty huge but he is playing very safe here I mean they 03:27:36.920 --> 03:27:40.480 tell almost certainly search that area at the map though just feel like they 03:27:40.480 --> 03:27:43.380 Well, it also is like tormentors respawning in about a minute too. So 03:27:47.560 --> 03:27:49.560 He's in trouble 03:27:57.800 --> 03:28:02.720 Mastiff killed 80 seconds as tormentors responding they immediately poured over looking for another kill to 03:28:03.200 --> 03:28:06.840 The biggest kill they could find they were looking for it for so long, too 03:28:10.480 --> 03:28:11.480 Go foo! 03:28:11.480 --> 03:28:12.480 Gonna keep the plays fast. 03:28:12.480 --> 03:28:14.480 So Misha will find a kill in the meantime. 03:28:17.480 --> 03:28:19.480 So who does need to get himself on the high ground. 03:28:19.480 --> 03:28:21.480 He's gonna be tempted to look into the high ground. 03:28:21.480 --> 03:28:23.480 I mean this. I mean it without the carrot. 03:28:23.480 --> 03:28:25.480 He'll pop that up. Absolutely. 03:28:28.480 --> 03:28:30.480 Let's go come in with the Crimson. 03:28:31.480 --> 03:28:33.480 The Heal is just constantly gonna come in here. 03:28:33.480 --> 03:28:34.480 Nine class. 03:28:34.480 --> 03:28:35.480 He keeps the tannic. 03:28:35.480 --> 03:28:36.480 That's pretty much it for him. 03:28:36.480 --> 03:28:38.480 All the time without Mikkei. 03:28:38.480 --> 03:28:41.920 Okay, at this point of the game, 03:28:41.920 --> 03:28:44.920 that's the tier three, take it out. 03:28:44.920 --> 03:28:47.120 And he can keep shockering him, 03:28:47.120 --> 03:28:48.720 making sure that that meta comes back up, 03:28:48.720 --> 03:28:50.160 meta comes back up a bit faster. 03:28:50.160 --> 03:28:51.160 He's keeping the heals going. 03:28:51.160 --> 03:28:53.040 He's gonna go aggressive onto Waste? 03:28:53.040 --> 03:28:54.480 That's just ace, there we go. 03:28:54.480 --> 03:28:56.280 Go on, make it the grip on him. 03:28:56.280 --> 03:28:57.800 Who's force was that? 03:28:57.800 --> 03:28:59.120 I think, who's was it? 03:28:59.120 --> 03:29:00.720 I think it was nine class. 03:29:00.720 --> 03:29:01.560 No, it wasn't. 03:29:01.560 --> 03:29:02.800 Or was it, I actually didn't get this. 03:29:02.800 --> 03:29:04.400 No, we gotta check that. 03:29:04.400 --> 03:29:05.640 I thought it maybe it was Boxie. 03:29:05.640 --> 03:29:07.360 I think they both aggressively forced that enemy. 03:29:07.360 --> 03:29:12.000 Working out. They're having a kill on Topher as well. I didn't get to see who that was 03:29:13.280 --> 03:29:18.780 I think boxy four staff to satanic and nine class four staff the underlord. So it looked funny 03:29:18.780 --> 03:29:21.880 I'm not sure though or it was the bane. I can't tell which one it was 03:29:24.280 --> 03:29:26.280 Who forced it I 03:29:27.320 --> 03:29:32.320 Think nine class forces. Yeah, okay, so it's really big forces in it and yeah coddles forces underlords, so 03:29:32.320 --> 03:29:34.320 Alright, so that's a nine class mistake. 03:29:34.320 --> 03:29:36.320 Absolutely. Okay, we get it. 03:29:36.320 --> 03:29:39.320 Both four positions, the same aggressive force staff. 03:29:39.320 --> 03:29:41.320 Very good aggressive force. 03:29:41.320 --> 03:29:43.320 Now from Liquid. 03:29:43.320 --> 03:29:44.320 That's a... 03:29:44.320 --> 03:29:45.320 Oh, stop the push! 03:29:45.320 --> 03:29:47.320 Well, but now, to kill. 03:29:47.320 --> 03:29:49.320 That's a low, you know, that's a take down. 03:29:49.320 --> 03:29:51.320 Stay tanked for the first time this game. 03:29:54.320 --> 03:29:56.320 Micky, they've got to get some time to respawn. 03:29:56.320 --> 03:29:58.320 Rax is gonna die. 03:30:02.320 --> 03:30:04.320 Alright, shut up, what's that? 03:30:04.320 --> 03:30:07.320 I mean, do you just go straight for the pit when you back up there with Sintanik? 03:30:07.320 --> 03:30:13.320 I imagine they will. They have good ward coverage in the area too, so it's gonna force Liquid to fight outside there without Mikkei with BKB. 03:30:13.320 --> 03:30:16.320 He kinda needs this BKB versus the pango. 03:30:17.320 --> 03:30:21.320 Positioning is pretty hard, especially if he's not in his base without BKB. 03:30:22.320 --> 03:30:27.320 So, looks like I should just, I mean, should finish this off for free because it's too fast. 03:30:27.320 --> 03:30:31.320 It looks like Liquid maybe wanted to contest, but they can't get there. 03:30:31.320 --> 03:30:33.320 I'm gonna push up this. 03:30:33.320 --> 03:30:35.320 Straight down the lane again and go for the base. 03:30:37.320 --> 03:30:38.320 Yep. 03:30:38.320 --> 03:30:40.320 For the first pick, one of the two. 03:30:40.320 --> 03:30:42.320 If they can't find that pick, off it is the dream. 03:30:42.320 --> 03:30:43.320 Liquid. 03:30:43.320 --> 03:30:45.320 Any other big item, pick up CeNisha. 03:30:45.320 --> 03:30:47.320 Getting closer to MKB. 03:30:47.320 --> 03:30:48.320 Okay. 03:30:50.320 --> 03:30:53.320 Looks like first we'll deal with the lanes, get them into a better position, 03:30:53.320 --> 03:30:54.320 potentially find that catch. 03:30:54.320 --> 03:30:56.320 Can't just go for that high ground still. 03:30:56.320 --> 03:30:57.320 A little careful. 03:30:57.320 --> 03:31:00.920 He's gonna give time for Mikkei to at least finish up that BKB for himself. 03:31:03.920 --> 03:31:06.120 I'll keep an eye on those aggressive force staffs. 03:31:06.420 --> 03:31:08.120 Both being used the exact same time. 03:31:14.920 --> 03:31:17.220 Terribly going Hydra's breath potentially. 03:31:19.420 --> 03:31:23.720 Wait till he does get it, cause it's gonna take quite a bit more time as he does have the data list he's showing. 03:31:23.720 --> 03:31:26.720 Seems like they're gonna force out the BKB from him. 03:31:26.720 --> 03:31:31.720 It's pretty speedy though, so it should be able to get out without a toasted one! 03:31:31.720 --> 03:31:34.720 Oh my god! Split second! 03:31:37.720 --> 03:31:38.720 Wow. 03:31:40.720 --> 03:31:41.720 They likely just hit him. 03:31:41.720 --> 03:31:46.720 He either dies or has to BKB and run and make them work for it, but that was actually a split second there. 03:31:48.720 --> 03:31:50.720 9K lead now, 4 power vision. 03:31:50.720 --> 03:31:54.720 Both left here finished up, you're noticed. 03:31:54.720 --> 03:32:00.720 The damage is ramped up a lot too with the stateless down, so... 03:32:00.720 --> 03:32:02.720 Staying on top of the scotties. 03:32:04.720 --> 03:32:06.720 They gotta address them. 03:32:06.720 --> 03:32:11.720 They can get that back in the pool's play if they have to control for the positioning. 03:32:11.720 --> 03:32:13.720 We'll tell them to get the fiend's grip off. 03:32:13.720 --> 03:32:15.720 A couple big items picked up. 03:32:15.720 --> 03:32:22.420 Nisha, MKB is done, Shiva's done for Underlord, while on the flip side, a Lotus Orb for no one and a Hatch. 03:32:22.420 --> 03:32:23.920 A lot of huge actually for Night Class. 03:32:23.920 --> 03:32:29.420 If they can just drop that down on Satanic and allow him to hit the base, the Lotus stops a lot of the count to play the Liquid As. 03:32:29.420 --> 03:32:34.920 But also, no one has to protect himself first, the fiend script potentially too, so it's a debate of how he wants to use this Lotus. 03:32:34.920 --> 03:32:39.420 I think he might rush. He might not mind getting Grypt though, if it means Satanic ain't getting Grypt. 03:32:39.420 --> 03:32:40.420 Perhaps, you know what I mean? 03:32:40.420 --> 03:32:44.920 He might not feel forced to go in, right? You just Lotus and sit back and wait. So, has options. 03:32:45.720 --> 03:32:48.720 Oxy, one outside of the base. 03:32:48.720 --> 03:32:50.720 Oh, it's his team. 03:32:51.720 --> 03:32:54.720 Has to throw the Lotus on to himself when he is rolling. 03:32:55.720 --> 03:32:56.720 We'll reset. 03:33:02.720 --> 03:33:04.720 So, two and a half minutes left on the Aegis. 03:33:04.720 --> 03:33:05.720 Ah, I'm almost done. 03:33:05.720 --> 03:33:07.720 He's gone. He has got the BKBs at it. 03:33:07.720 --> 03:33:09.720 I'm glad he did this, I was gonna say. 03:33:09.720 --> 03:33:11.720 I prefer him having at least one defensive tool, 03:33:11.720 --> 03:33:12.720 because right now it's very aggressive, 03:33:12.720 --> 03:33:13.720 built he's gone for. 03:33:13.720 --> 03:33:14.720 Can just go die to the magic damage. 03:33:14.720 --> 03:33:18.720 He's not careful. So we'll have that for the respawn. 03:33:22.720 --> 03:33:24.720 A tense game though. 12-12. 03:33:24.720 --> 03:33:25.720 Yeah, I'm in power vision. 03:33:25.720 --> 03:33:26.720 They're playing very careful. 03:33:26.720 --> 03:33:28.720 After that last game right there. 03:33:28.720 --> 03:33:32.720 They don't want to let this one slip away in the same fashion as game 2. 03:33:32.720 --> 03:33:35.720 Pretty painful loss for them that one. 03:33:35.720 --> 03:33:37.720 Yeah, they're in a pretty comfortable position. 03:33:37.720 --> 03:33:41.720 VersaTanik is saying like I'm still absolutely massive and I'm versus the SF. 03:33:41.720 --> 03:33:43.720 It's just this case is the question, right? 03:33:43.720 --> 03:33:49.140 Nisha is also starting to get pretty tremendous. Yes, his farm's fantastic 03:33:49.140 --> 03:33:53.020 And we've seen sort of early sort of signs, you know, his little pick-offs that he's made so far 03:33:53.660 --> 03:33:57.320 But that sort of Kes explosion hasn't happened yet 03:33:57.320 --> 03:34:02.460 But it absolutely could here in this game if they did it with a 30,000 deficit in the last year 03:34:03.020 --> 03:34:08.500 Look, we still want Micae could do and every reason to believe that Nisha is able to be gonna be able to pull off as well 03:34:08.500 --> 03:34:10.740 Here comes the siege with the Aegis 03:34:10.740 --> 03:34:17.740 They enter down. Double catapult waves it this while that they're trying to use. 03:34:17.740 --> 03:34:24.740 These double catapults are annoying to deal with. Fair bit of damage onto this tower. 03:34:24.740 --> 03:34:28.740 We'll get brought down now. 03:34:28.740 --> 03:34:35.740 That round brown box you need to show. See if they can get to the back lines of the fight. 03:34:35.740 --> 03:34:38.740 They seem to know. They're backing up resetting. 03:34:38.740 --> 03:34:41.940 It's still risky into the one minute of the A, just on Satanic. 03:34:41.940 --> 03:34:44.500 Nisha, it's gonna get found in by the GlideNet! 03:34:44.500 --> 03:34:45.940 Out to pull himself away! 03:34:45.940 --> 03:34:46.820 Massive gate. 03:34:48.660 --> 03:34:50.020 It's close though, you see. 03:34:50.020 --> 03:34:52.340 Just a few of the hits connecting from the Terrablade, 03:34:52.340 --> 03:34:54.740 and it takes Nisha down to half-hp straight away. 03:34:54.740 --> 03:34:57.220 Let me beat these right clicks from Satanic, they are! 03:34:57.220 --> 03:34:59.220 And you can tell that they're feeling a bit of that scare, too. 03:34:59.220 --> 03:35:01.700 The way that he uses the fiends gate to just zone them... 03:35:02.260 --> 03:35:03.140 Does tell a tale. 03:35:03.140 --> 03:35:05.540 Nisha really wants to hang onto his BKB for the fight. 03:35:05.540 --> 03:35:10.060 Meta was used, but Meta will be able to come back up very quickly. 03:35:10.060 --> 03:35:13.460 He's just going to shocker him off cooldown, sticking right on top of him. 03:35:13.460 --> 03:35:18.260 So it's going to come back up pretty soon, 30 seconds. 03:35:18.260 --> 03:35:19.860 Tofu trying to regain footing. 03:35:19.860 --> 03:35:23.340 They're trying to get a position advantage here on Liquid. 03:35:23.340 --> 03:35:25.180 Look at the little wards that they've placed, right? 03:35:25.180 --> 03:35:29.060 All three wards kind of sneaky outside the base in these, not the most optimal kind of 03:35:29.060 --> 03:35:32.740 positions, but trying to look for that one scenario that they can find a wraparound. 03:35:32.740 --> 03:35:39.220 And to call this, I was waiting till we saw him queue it up. 03:35:39.220 --> 03:35:40.940 Point booster has been picked up. 03:35:40.940 --> 03:35:45.900 So another element that, the longer the liquid scales, this Grimstroke also is going to have 03:35:45.900 --> 03:35:51.020 crazy potential if he's able to get this Dark Portrait as well. 03:35:51.020 --> 03:36:00.060 This game is definitely hearing off for some crazy late game fights. 03:36:00.060 --> 03:36:05.520 Imagine Paraficion, they probably won't try and do anything until the next rush end now. 03:36:05.520 --> 03:36:07.640 Yep, it's like, wait for the next rush. 03:36:08.800 --> 03:36:10.800 If you find a catch outside, sure. 03:36:10.800 --> 03:36:13.600 But yeah, still going for the high ground push is difficult. 03:36:13.600 --> 03:36:16.400 Yeah, I think that's it. I'm gonna try and hurry this one. 03:36:18.400 --> 03:36:20.400 They still have growth, right? Agonyms on the Grim. 03:36:20.400 --> 03:36:23.360 If Aegis as they can claim, quite a bit more than no one can pick up too. 03:36:23.360 --> 03:36:24.960 I see he's queued up the Disperser. 03:36:24.960 --> 03:36:32.960 This Berserker is pretty cool too versus the Pit and all these little things to be able to get in and out. 03:36:32.960 --> 03:36:35.960 Notice also we'll get a free shot. 03:36:40.960 --> 03:36:45.960 The first pick is big damage out of that. He really needs to go through that tower blade. 03:36:45.960 --> 03:36:48.960 Just having difficulties getting into position to hit him of course. 03:36:48.960 --> 03:36:51.640 16k lead for paravision, 15k to play 03:36:52.140 --> 03:36:54.860 Very cautious, we need to protect satanic 03:36:56.280 --> 03:36:57.400 Hatch is breath done 03:37:00.320 --> 03:37:02.320 I mean he's pretty much done right now 03:37:02.320 --> 03:37:03.720 Where do you sort of go from here? 03:37:03.720 --> 03:37:05.120 What's next on the map? 03:37:05.120 --> 03:37:08.080 Here's Agadam's taking a slow look to replace things around here a little bit here 03:37:08.080 --> 03:37:09.160 Right, the Manta 03:37:09.160 --> 03:37:10.760 So it could potentially get moved around 03:37:10.760 --> 03:37:12.080 BKB went on cooldown 03:37:14.000 --> 03:37:15.160 Some small growth for him 03:37:15.480 --> 03:37:16.920 It's only level 22 as well 03:37:16.920 --> 03:37:20.920 those three levels at least to get to that 25. 03:37:29.920 --> 03:37:34.920 Looks like they're probably just also waiting for the road. Yep, they don't seem to want to try and go for any sort of 03:37:34.920 --> 03:37:38.920 smoke moves. Even in the sort of downtime where there's no aegis in play. 03:37:38.920 --> 03:37:43.920 If they get vision of any hero too far outside, paravision, they will absolutely look to hunt it just 03:37:43.920 --> 03:37:46.920 No one's really showing, Nisha playing very careful. 03:37:46.920 --> 03:37:49.920 Skirting on the sides, there's Nuke and Creep waves instantly. 03:37:53.920 --> 03:37:55.920 Rosh, we'll find out in 40 seconds. 03:38:03.920 --> 03:38:05.920 Disciplined, from both sides. 03:38:07.920 --> 03:38:09.920 12 to 12, I'm 14 minutes in. 03:38:09.920 --> 03:38:12.920 One of the lower kill count games, but it's very tense. 03:38:13.920 --> 03:38:19.360 power vision feeling so very comfortable in the driver seat but as we said you 03:38:19.360 --> 03:38:23.000 know this has can never write this hero off as the game approaches late no I 03:38:23.000 --> 03:38:26.440 said that's that's that's really exciting thing really that we haven't 03:38:26.440 --> 03:38:32.160 seen like a team fight full-on when he's just been like fully committed to 03:38:32.160 --> 03:38:36.640 fighting in the 5v5 right so we you know for what the potential is from 03:38:36.640 --> 03:38:40.680 these here on this hero we're yet to see for sure it's got the items for it and 03:38:40.680 --> 03:38:43.720 He's played a very careful game so far. 03:38:43.720 --> 03:38:46.240 And like, there's just so many different elements too. 03:38:46.240 --> 03:38:48.400 It's like, if Mickey is left alone too in the fight, 03:38:48.400 --> 03:38:49.720 he is gonna do a lot of damage too. 03:38:49.720 --> 03:38:52.920 It's just, that's the question, there's a big if. 03:38:52.920 --> 03:38:55.480 Because Kansas die pretty quickly here too. 03:38:55.480 --> 03:38:56.480 I think they're gonna give Ducalus 03:38:56.480 --> 03:38:57.840 quite a bit of priority on farm though, 03:38:57.840 --> 03:38:58.680 like I was mentioning. 03:38:58.680 --> 03:39:00.360 This guy's portrait is pretty busted 03:39:00.360 --> 03:39:01.880 if he gets to this point in the game too. 03:39:01.880 --> 03:39:02.720 It's super close. 03:39:02.720 --> 03:39:05.380 He is about to have it, pretty much done. 03:39:05.380 --> 03:39:07.320 And it will be probably right around that rush, 03:39:07.320 --> 03:39:08.520 the five second respawn. 03:39:08.520 --> 03:39:13.520 So let's see if Liquid is going to be able to get out to contest that roaster if they're just going to have to give it for free. 03:39:13.520 --> 03:39:18.520 Ideally, they're going to contest it. I don't think they're going to want to give that one for free. 03:39:18.520 --> 03:39:20.520 Absolutely. 03:39:20.520 --> 03:39:22.520 To Coloss. 03:39:22.520 --> 03:39:26.520 Yeah, defending against an Aegis Terribler to this point, pushing your base. 03:39:26.520 --> 03:39:28.520 You're going to at least lose a set of Barracks. 03:39:28.520 --> 03:39:33.520 It's the Aegis, it's also just to refresh your Shard too, because then the Pango can just like double roll inside your base. 03:39:33.520 --> 03:39:35.520 There's so many different elements that start to come in. 03:39:35.520 --> 03:39:40.280 We get the chance to sort of touch the terrible. Yeah, you take your power. This is what no one can do extremely disruptive 03:39:44.120 --> 03:39:46.040 Carlos 03:39:46.040 --> 03:39:48.720 170 gold he'll have it in these next few moments 03:39:51.600 --> 03:39:55.160 Wisdom being crayon claimed notice level 25 has been hit for the timber as well 03:39:57.240 --> 03:40:00.160 You get in and out of the fights a lot easier to this talent is 03:40:00.160 --> 03:40:05.160 Yeah, you're right, so do you. That full-legs blessing is going to be on him now. 03:40:05.160 --> 03:40:07.160 He's bent, right? That was completely all in. 03:40:07.160 --> 03:40:09.160 And for the tower, Blade. 03:40:09.160 --> 03:40:13.160 Alright, everybody. This is probably where the biggest situation is going to happen in the whole game too, so... 03:40:13.160 --> 03:40:15.160 Gotta make sure that the FPS is all good. 03:40:15.160 --> 03:40:17.160 Yep, I'm going to dry my hands. 03:40:17.160 --> 03:40:19.160 Oh, there we go. 03:40:19.160 --> 03:40:23.160 I'm ready for the big kickoff around this roach. 03:40:23.160 --> 03:40:24.160 Yep. 03:40:24.160 --> 03:40:25.160 What's he got going on? 03:40:25.160 --> 03:40:26.160 A little bit of a snack. 03:40:26.160 --> 03:40:27.160 Yep, there we go. 03:40:27.160 --> 03:40:28.160 A little bit of tea. 03:40:28.160 --> 03:40:34.280 No, whatever's in there. I like it refresh yourself everyone take a moment. It has been a pretty slow game 03:40:34.280 --> 03:40:38.480 I was empty that he's gonna have to fill up the flask though. He's gonna last bit that's left in there 03:40:38.480 --> 03:40:42.160 It's all he needs for the rest of this game very likely right now. We've asked them on games 03:40:42.160 --> 03:40:47.040 You know this one might have just been getting started. That's very true. I have a lot more this one 03:40:47.040 --> 03:40:49.960 It does have the potential to continue for some time here 03:40:52.480 --> 03:40:55.440 Also has the potential to end abruptly as we say right yes 03:40:55.440 --> 03:41:01.320 absolutely. Daphne also right in this position for in favor of power vision in terms of how 03:41:01.320 --> 03:41:05.640 quickly they could end off the back of a good team fight just because of how quickly this 03:41:05.640 --> 03:41:11.920 terribly will destroy the base. Micke is, oh sorry, Nisha gonna get the shrine so he's also 03:41:11.920 --> 03:41:17.280 gonna have level 25 so the Echo Slash. Does he spend up as well? Do you think on the Crusader 03:41:17.280 --> 03:41:21.200 things they're gonna be a bit more careful with the buybacks? I think at least Nisha will be a little 03:41:21.200 --> 03:41:24.840 more careful. He might buy the blink at the least. Has he got enough of the blink in the axe 03:41:24.840 --> 03:41:26.840 Blessing 03:41:28.560 --> 03:41:34.120 Vision they're gonna smoke out look for potential catch before they just walk into a pit he does by the blink, okay 03:41:34.720 --> 03:41:37.920 Yeah, I just know what he's doing. I still just beat. Yeah 03:41:40.560 --> 03:41:42.680 Liquid not getting caught outside the base 03:41:43.360 --> 03:41:47.720 Paravision sweeping it to get some vision in the area. What's the hex dumb for ice? 03:41:48.440 --> 03:41:54.080 Lot of control from him liquid smoking up. They're gonna look for this fight. Nisha blank level 25 03:41:54.080 --> 03:41:57.680 Yep, they don't want to let Paravision get this rose shot. 03:41:57.680 --> 03:41:59.680 Time to go for the big wrap round. 03:41:59.680 --> 03:42:00.680 Scan is there. 03:42:00.680 --> 03:42:02.680 Is this the fight? 03:42:02.680 --> 03:42:05.680 To get Liquid back in and close that lead? 03:42:05.680 --> 03:42:07.680 To call us as we said, has the axe. 03:42:07.680 --> 03:42:09.180 Instead of with the fiendscape. 03:42:09.180 --> 03:42:11.180 Okay, it's gonna start looking at Wuz notice. 03:42:11.180 --> 03:42:13.180 There's a portrait down. 03:42:13.180 --> 03:42:16.180 It gets killed so they won't have the benefit of that S-Tephora. 03:42:16.180 --> 03:42:17.180 At least for now. 03:42:17.180 --> 03:42:19.680 Paravision are pretty scared, they're being careful. 03:42:19.680 --> 03:42:21.680 That was fiendscape used though. 03:42:21.680 --> 03:42:25.920 And one of the pretty strong abilities on the side of Liquid in order to control 03:42:28.240 --> 03:42:31.520 And the Roar is on cooldown so they might walk in 03:42:32.320 --> 03:42:35.040 and try to finish it off here with Liquid posturing in the area 03:42:35.040 --> 03:42:37.520 No, I'm gonna want to stray too far in Liquid 03:42:38.640 --> 03:42:40.400 That's a roll. No one's ready to go in 03:42:40.400 --> 03:42:42.960 See if we can find it, he gets the jump straight away over to the water room 03:42:42.960 --> 03:42:45.920 and the fiends creeps there on towards the Notius Tempestall 03:42:45.920 --> 03:42:49.200 They get in the damage, Notius still alive though, he's away 03:42:49.200 --> 03:42:53.200 Lotus and BKB, it'll be fine. No one rolls up forward. 03:42:53.200 --> 03:42:55.200 It's gonna take Hector back off now. 03:42:55.200 --> 03:42:58.200 I mean, Boxy's brought back, but the fight's starting to fall apart for Liquid. 03:42:58.200 --> 03:43:01.200 The Hector catches him up to Topher, the tree line, they'll catch the base. 03:43:01.200 --> 03:43:04.200 Nisha, he'll get the... No, he won't get the hold off! 03:43:04.200 --> 03:43:09.200 They're able to just destroy him with the crits coming out from Static. 03:43:09.200 --> 03:43:12.200 Not the fight, the Liquid hoped for that. 03:43:12.200 --> 03:43:16.200 They couldn't finish, notice the whole... the full duration of the crit, but they couldn't kill him. 03:43:16.200 --> 03:43:19.320 kill him. And Nisha just dies in a second there, Chump. 03:43:19.320 --> 03:43:25.120 I could not stand it anywhere close to a chance against this damage output from Static. 03:43:25.120 --> 03:43:29.080 Not doing the same things that we saw Micae being able to not versus Static on the terrible 03:43:29.080 --> 03:43:30.080 end. 03:43:30.080 --> 03:43:35.120 That's the top set of barracks, gone. I'm coming with the buyback now for Nisha. 03:43:35.120 --> 03:43:41.240 They need to try and get some sort of catch here with this buyback. He's dead, he's dead! 03:43:41.240 --> 03:43:43.240 It's a dieback! 03:43:43.240 --> 03:43:45.240 Oh no! 03:43:45.240 --> 03:43:46.240 All this time. 03:43:46.240 --> 03:43:48.240 Yeah, we said it was building up to something. 03:43:48.240 --> 03:43:50.240 That's what it was building up to, this game, 03:43:50.240 --> 03:43:52.240 Phonisher on the cares, and as you say, 03:43:52.240 --> 03:43:55.240 it worked quite what Mikke did last game, Fogged. 03:43:55.240 --> 03:43:56.240 Nope. 03:43:56.240 --> 03:43:58.240 Quite the opposite, unfortunately for 03:43:58.240 --> 03:44:00.240 Phonisher and for Liquid there. 03:44:00.240 --> 03:44:02.240 And Paravision, you could see the posturing in this game. 03:44:02.240 --> 03:44:03.240 Yeah. 03:44:03.240 --> 03:44:04.240 Much more careful. 03:44:04.240 --> 03:44:07.240 They really want to more careful this time round. 03:44:07.240 --> 03:44:09.240 They get the catch, wait for the fight 03:44:09.240 --> 03:44:16.240 For so long to get it, Anisha joins in and just dies in an instant twice and Mikke can do literally nothing else to run the whole teamfight as well. 03:44:17.240 --> 03:44:21.240 It felt like it was kind of building up to this, you could see the kez was still farming but... 03:44:21.240 --> 03:44:23.240 Yeah, this draft of paravision. 03:44:23.240 --> 03:44:27.240 But around Titanic on the TV, he don't miss. 03:44:28.240 --> 03:44:35.240 He really doesn't, and they're ready to dive in and likely close up this series if the group won't be on the notice. 03:44:35.240 --> 03:44:36.240 But Mikke... 03:44:36.240 --> 03:44:40.820 Now get him, but indeed Mikke buying back for this, it's just him and Boxy left. 03:44:40.820 --> 03:44:43.620 Notice he'll buy back on ParaVision ready to close this one up. 03:44:43.620 --> 03:44:48.320 They take out the full set of parrots on the bottom, they've got a qualification liquid. 03:44:48.920 --> 03:44:51.120 But ParaVision, they're not going anywhere. 03:44:51.120 --> 03:44:57.360 They know that this time round they've managed to safely and securely close this game up. 03:44:57.360 --> 03:45:01.280 Mikke's going to try for a play, but they're ready for him with the hex catching on towards him. 03:45:01.280 --> 03:45:04.820 He'll get the BKB off, but Static's approaching Mikke. 03:45:04.820 --> 03:45:11.740 They'll go for the Red Quim to push them back, but no one will notice they play with him outside of the base. 03:45:11.740 --> 03:45:16.420 Boxing in trouble as the damage is always going to die in the fountain easily. 03:45:16.420 --> 03:45:21.220 Two states down, it's damage out, but GG is called Paravision Take Game 3. 03:45:21.220 --> 03:45:26.900 And with that, the series is theirs. Two to one against Liquid, a little bit, well, a big bit of a hiccuping game too. 03:45:26.900 --> 03:45:27.580 Massive hiccuping. 03:45:27.580 --> 03:45:31.820 Other than that, Paravision did very much seem to have Liquid's number today. 03:45:31.820 --> 03:45:34.780 Yeah, I'm sure they're sitting there, you know, puppy watching on the side of the deck. 03:45:34.780 --> 03:45:37.580 We're gonna play this one much cleaner, Mr. Pupon, and this one you can get. 03:45:37.900 --> 03:45:39.900 Their idea, their concept was definitely right. 03:45:39.900 --> 03:45:42.380 Liquid still farming very well toward the end of the thing here, but... 03:45:42.380 --> 03:45:43.820 The farming was there, but... 03:45:43.820 --> 03:45:44.300 The fighting... 03:45:44.300 --> 03:45:44.800 Yeah. 03:45:45.180 --> 03:45:45.680 It... 03:45:45.900 --> 03:45:49.660 It could have been a spectacle from the niche from the cast, but it was... 03:45:49.660 --> 03:45:50.620 It was the debut... 03:45:50.620 --> 03:45:52.300 The farming was great, but the... 03:45:53.260 --> 03:45:55.180 The fight at the end, it just went... 03:45:55.180 --> 03:45:55.900 This is not... 03:45:55.900 --> 03:45:58.940 And look at the hero damage, it kind of tells the tale of things, at least from Liquid. 03:45:58.940 --> 03:46:05.260 Avoiding fights for so long, but Satanic on the Tower of Blade reigns to bring 32,000 hero damage, 9, 1, and 8. 03:46:05.260 --> 03:46:07.020 Over 1k GPM as well. 03:46:07.020 --> 03:46:07.820 Oh, he did pass that? 03:46:07.820 --> 03:46:08.380 Yeah, he did. 03:46:08.380 --> 03:46:09.020 Oh, wow. 03:46:09.020 --> 03:46:09.660 Yeah. 03:46:09.660 --> 03:46:11.340 Satanic on the Tower of Blade, as I say. 03:46:11.340 --> 03:46:16.060 When it comes to crunch time, they bring out the Satanic TV, they get the job done. 03:46:16.060 --> 03:46:17.340 Power efficient. 03:46:17.340 --> 03:46:18.460 The series is there! 03:46:18.460 --> 03:46:20.620 2 to 1 in today against Liquid. 03:46:22.700 --> 03:46:26.220 Overall last pick on the Tower of Blade. 03:46:26.220 --> 03:46:30.420 I guess we were a little doubtful of how his lane would go, but 03:46:30.940 --> 03:46:37.780 Doesn't really matter if you're gonna be the strongest hero in the game eventually anyway, and in a lot of these games 03:46:38.620 --> 03:46:42.860 Brian the carries just seemed to be able to get that time regardless 03:46:42.860 --> 03:46:48.500 Okay, I didn't in backstage was like the team that lost the lanes and then they'd moves was the one that won all three games 03:46:48.780 --> 03:46:54.500 What's the TV that kind of cookin? Yeah? Yeah, I did say that was like a flawless performance 03:46:54.500 --> 03:47:02.060 Yeah, they played amazingly. I mean for me the story of this series was whoever is comfortable in the game seemed to do better 03:47:02.180 --> 03:47:07.420 Yeah, and it needed I think it's a sign of two teams playing at like a high level is like when 03:47:07.940 --> 03:47:12.820 Even though your draft is better if it's less comfortable, you don't win and if I came to all I mean 03:47:12.820 --> 03:47:14.620 Let's be real party should win that game 03:47:14.620 --> 03:47:16.180 They probably wouldn't I came nine out of ten times 03:47:16.180 --> 03:47:20.860 But that's like where the could could find the opportunity to come back into the game and make something happen and 03:47:20.860 --> 03:47:27.220 And sadly I feel like Nisha didn't look like Kaz is his main hero, you know the puck comfortable 03:47:27.220 --> 03:47:31.340 in all positions because he felt more like probably knows how to play it if he's playing 03:47:31.340 --> 03:47:34.180 it from ahead and he can play it from position of strength. 03:47:34.180 --> 03:47:38.300 In this game he ended up being like kind of dryish, maybe even slightly behind and I think 03:47:38.300 --> 03:47:40.540 that really hurt the good tempo in this game. 03:47:40.540 --> 03:47:46.620 And I think Tb is like the exact peak of that type of hero that you're talking about, because 03:47:46.620 --> 03:47:50.660 I mean maybe you guys will disagree with me but I feel like if a really good Tb player 03:47:50.660 --> 03:47:54.500 says like just give me TV a lot of the time they have some read on the game 03:47:54.500 --> 03:47:57.660 that if you're not also a TV player like you can't say well you I know you play 03:47:57.660 --> 03:48:01.340 a lot of TV Brian but I feel like sometimes these guys especially Satanic 03:48:01.340 --> 03:48:06.420 who like he came into the scene playing terribly the guys like a god at it these 03:48:06.420 --> 03:48:09.420 people are able to identify when they could just 1v5 a game it's like yeah 03:48:09.420 --> 03:48:12.220 Lane will be rough whatever it's underlord or we can do this against them 03:48:12.220 --> 03:48:16.420 play with the illusions whatever but like if the game goes late I'm gonna I'm 03:48:16.420 --> 03:48:17.420 I'm going to cook. 03:48:17.420 --> 03:48:18.420 Yeah. 03:48:18.420 --> 03:48:19.420 I mean, he did cook. 03:48:19.420 --> 03:48:23.780 I feel like the TB really was ultimately like the end will be all answered to everything. 03:48:23.780 --> 03:48:26.780 And I think probably if you're liquid, you're thinking maybe we should have accepted the 03:48:26.780 --> 03:48:31.340 worst laning matchup for Kez, put him against Timber, and then run SF mid, which probably 03:48:31.340 --> 03:48:35.460 would have been more comfortable for them, arguably better scaling as well. 03:48:35.460 --> 03:48:39.380 If you get the magic build on SF, going into the mid game, you have tools to allow you 03:48:39.380 --> 03:48:42.900 to make more plays and stuff like that, so yeah. 03:48:42.900 --> 03:48:45.140 I feel like this whole series is like an extended chess match. 03:48:45.140 --> 03:48:50.260 in that last game like you have the SF lane swap thing where they try to catch 03:48:50.260 --> 03:48:53.860 notices timber off guard but then the terror blade pick was like the trump 03:48:53.860 --> 03:48:58.060 card to all these physical damage right-clickers and I like you said I feel 03:48:58.060 --> 03:49:01.780 like liquid had to have made some adjustment to that because it was such a 03:49:01.780 --> 03:49:06.540 strong counter to what they're doing and I think I was over fixated on the lane 03:49:06.540 --> 03:49:09.500 against underlord and that's why I was kind of like oh that terror blades not a 03:49:09.500 --> 03:49:15.100 great pick but as a terrible player it's like yeah SF and Kes do nothing to you 03:49:15.100 --> 03:49:19.740 And when you see satanic laying the lane really well, and then just clean sweep the game by the way 03:49:20.340 --> 03:49:23.260 Hydra's breath I thought that item was virtually unbiable on carry 03:49:23.260 --> 03:49:26.020 We'd sometimes see it on like embers mid super late game and stuff like this 03:49:26.060 --> 03:49:28.280 But sniper or yeah or sniper 03:49:28.280 --> 03:49:32.340 But like I think terror blade is one of the few carries that really that item made a lot of sense 03:49:32.340 --> 03:49:36.180 He even killed ace at the end of the game with the tick damage of it on an underlord 03:49:36.180 --> 03:49:39.500 So I thought that was really cool. I learned something in this game watching that 03:49:39.500 --> 03:49:44.260 I don't know why you guys not seeing more praises of no one in this game because he did not die 03:49:44.260 --> 03:49:50.180 single time on his pangol it's not even a real hero shoes 226 come on he did 03:49:50.180 --> 03:49:55.540 really well that he did a really nice game he went to 015 I guess he didn't 03:49:55.540 --> 03:49:59.540 have enough kills for us he didn't do crazy damage or crazy kills but you can 03:49:59.540 --> 03:50:04.660 see the difference between having like the playmaking mid who is just he set up 03:50:04.660 --> 03:50:08.780 every fight he set everything up and satanic is to be the big flashy star of 03:50:08.780 --> 03:50:12.900 the show but I agree like he's the centerpiece to every fight I think I think 03:50:12.900 --> 03:50:17.140 for me it's just like it's cool when like he did he was pangol and he did pango things and he didn't 03:50:17.140 --> 03:50:21.060 try you know a great good job we're really proud of you but like satanic did something we didn't 03:50:21.060 --> 03:50:24.980 expect to see from him right that's why he becomes the center of conversation and i think like 03:50:26.100 --> 03:50:31.620 i think ultimately the more i think about it the more i feel like liquid just didn't manage to 03:50:31.620 --> 03:50:36.260 like realize like their strength comes from nisha snowballing and having him make things happen 03:50:36.260 --> 03:50:40.180 whereas i think like probably recognize that we just need satanic to be fat doesn't matter if notice 03:50:40.180 --> 03:50:45.020 is the sacronaut and that's it works out for permission they continue in the 03:50:45.020 --> 03:50:48.820 upper bracket we got team liquid not out they are continuing on in the lower 03:50:48.820 --> 03:50:52.820 bracket now there's four series actually happening throughout the day in two 03:50:52.820 --> 03:50:56.540 separate streams we all of course have another series coming away soon but 03:50:56.540 --> 03:51:01.860 there have already been two other series other than the one that we watch and in 03:51:01.860 --> 03:51:06.540 case you missed them we got our best our best person on the case it's Effie 03:51:06.540 --> 03:51:11.540 I'm very glad to be called the best person here. 03:51:11.540 --> 03:51:14.540 We had a really exciting day of Dota today. 03:51:14.540 --> 03:51:19.540 Earlier, while this series was happening, actually two other series were played on a different stream, 03:51:19.540 --> 03:51:24.540 and the results were perhaps expected or perhaps not. 03:51:24.540 --> 03:51:29.540 I know that people have differing opinions, but we did have Falcons 2.0, Tundra today. 03:51:29.540 --> 03:51:34.540 It was a decently close series. The second game was a lot more exciting than the first. 03:51:34.540 --> 03:51:38.900 But this is a clip from the first game. As we can see, they've got their classic 03:51:39.740 --> 03:51:43.740 sneaking lich. He's actually 10-1 on this hero panel if you didn't know that. 03:51:43.740 --> 03:51:47.140 But here I just want to show you a clip of Tundra making an aggressive play. 03:51:47.140 --> 03:51:53.220 And I wanted to show this one in particular because the panel is talking about the impact of chain frost and how pro players are 03:51:53.220 --> 03:51:57.540 forgetting how to play against it. And this play looked fine up until out here. It comes. 03:51:57.700 --> 03:52:03.380 Here's the lich chain frost into the dive going badly and the first game was history after that. 03:52:03.380 --> 03:52:08.000 In this game too of Thunder vs. Falcons, it was a classic museum tanker. 03:52:08.000 --> 03:52:12.220 Now Falcons were winning for the entirety of this game, but they had to issue a tanker high ground. 03:52:12.220 --> 03:52:18.920 But as you can see, Crit on his lion, he jumps in, gets the Bumble and pales, manages to exchange it for his tears, 03:52:18.920 --> 03:52:27.720 letting them in a 60 minute win. It was really exciting for them, and here we just see Windranger trying to kill Skeeter's lifestealer. 03:52:27.720 --> 03:52:30.600 He eats the block of cheese, has it at a time, and he's winning. 03:52:30.600 --> 03:52:32.600 Now the second series of the day we had 03:52:33.600 --> 03:52:38.360 Team Spirit vs. Buktim. Sorry, I'm kind of out of breath here because I was like running earlier 03:52:38.560 --> 03:52:43.240 But we have Yatoro. I just want to look at his player stats because he's owning the entire tournament 03:52:43.240 --> 03:52:49.000 His KDA is 9-4-12. He actually played two trade protectors today with Yatoro on two ranged carries 03:52:49.000 --> 03:52:54.540 It looked very good and I don't know big Team Spirit enjoyer over here 03:52:54.540 --> 03:53:03.260 They are looking solid for sure and it is at least good that nobody gets eliminated today, you know everything upper bracket for now 03:53:03.260 --> 03:53:04.900 Thank you so much for the update Effy 03:53:04.900 --> 03:53:10.760 But we do need another team to sort out which one or another series rather start out which team goes upper bracket 03:53:10.760 --> 03:53:14.620 Which team goes lower bracket two teams have not played yet today? 03:53:15.260 --> 03:53:18.620 Aurora versus Navi coming your way after a break 03:56:24.540 --> 03:56:49.540 This is like the perfect day to catch the sun and dance away 03:56:49.540 --> 03:56:52.040 I'm a fresh right by my side 03:56:54.240 --> 03:56:57.440 They're lightin' up the darkest night 03:56:59.440 --> 03:57:01.940 Now they play our favorite song 03:57:04.340 --> 03:57:07.340 Everybody sing along 03:57:09.140 --> 03:57:12.340 The sunlight makes me smile 03:57:14.140 --> 03:57:17.140 My friends are dropping by 03:57:19.540 --> 03:57:22.540 One will break the stride 03:57:23.540 --> 03:57:27.540 This is my time, I've got your future fight 03:57:29.540 --> 03:57:33.540 She keeps me feeling alright, I'm feeling alright 03:57:34.540 --> 03:57:38.540 There's just a taste of more loving, more loving 03:57:39.540 --> 03:57:42.540 I'm the way to bright and shiny eyes 03:57:43.540 --> 03:57:47.540 I can see it in your eyes 03:57:47.540 --> 03:57:52.540 The sunlight makes me smile 03:57:52.540 --> 03:57:57.540 My friends are dropping by 03:57:57.540 --> 03:58:02.540 No one will break my stride 03:58:02.540 --> 03:58:07.540 Since good time, I'm feeling fine 03:58:07.540 --> 03:58:12.540 The sunlight makes me smile 03:58:12.540 --> 03:58:17.540 My friends are jumping right 03:58:17.540 --> 03:58:22.540 I'm on a ramp, break the stride 03:58:22.540 --> 03:58:26.540 This is the time, this is the time 03:58:26.540 --> 03:58:28.540 You can fly, you can fly 03:58:28.540 --> 03:58:32.540 I'm on a ramp, break the stride 03:58:32.540 --> 03:58:37.540 I'm on a ramp, break the stride 03:59:07.540 --> 03:59:27.540 You and I got something together It's so hard to beat a feeling like this 03:59:27.540 --> 03:59:33.540 You can't get away from me, I've been meaning for six years now. 03:59:34.540 --> 03:59:38.540 You can't get away from me, I'm afraid I'm watching you shine. 03:59:38.540 --> 03:59:42.540 Come on and change that dream and put a light. 03:59:42.540 --> 03:59:46.540 Put a new myself and dance all night. 03:59:46.540 --> 03:59:48.540 Living on this life. 03:59:52.540 --> 03:59:55.540 You make a mess of the life. 03:59:55.540 --> 03:59:58.540 Come on now, get it, get it, get it 03:59:59.540 --> 04:00:02.540 You make me feel so fine 04:00:03.540 --> 04:00:05.540 Get it, get it, get it 04:00:05.540 --> 04:00:29.540 I just wanna live it now, I never is so hard to be A moment like this, yet I'm crushed 04:00:29.540 --> 04:00:32.540 I guess it's on another level 04:00:32.540 --> 04:00:34.540 Going round and around 04:00:34.540 --> 04:00:36.540 When I'm with you 04:00:36.540 --> 04:00:39.540 Gonna save you all from what you showed me 04:00:39.540 --> 04:00:43.540 Come on, let's change the bad dream and put it online 04:00:43.540 --> 04:00:47.540 Come and lose myself and dance all night 04:00:47.540 --> 04:00:50.540 We're living our very lives 04:00:54.540 --> 04:00:57.540 You make me feel so alive 04:00:57.540 --> 04:00:59.540 Come on now, get it, get it, get it 04:01:01.540 --> 04:01:03.540 You ain't making me so alive 04:01:09.540 --> 04:01:11.540 You ain't making me so alive 04:01:12.540 --> 04:01:14.540 Come on now, get it, get it 04:01:17.540 --> 04:01:19.540 You ain't making me so alive 04:01:57.540 --> 04:02:26.540 Sometimes I'm foolish, sometimes I know I'm getting mad, sometimes I say the wrong thing to myself. 04:02:26.540 --> 04:02:38.460 wrong thing to you, makes you feel sad, but one thing is true, in all that we've been through, 04:02:40.620 --> 04:02:46.460 you'll never stop loving me, no matter where I am. 04:02:46.460 --> 04:03:02.460 So let me say that every day I try to find a word that my heart just said thank you 04:03:02.460 --> 04:03:05.460 Because you take me as I am. 04:03:10.460 --> 04:03:13.460 You take me as I am. 04:03:15.460 --> 04:03:17.460 Already. 04:03:21.460 --> 04:03:23.460 If you'd stop loving me, 04:03:24.460 --> 04:03:27.460 Well, I would understand. 04:03:27.460 --> 04:03:33.460 But I won't take you for candy, no, no 04:03:33.460 --> 04:03:36.460 When you hold my hand 04:03:36.460 --> 04:03:44.460 Your love makes me feel that I could fly to the wind 04:03:44.460 --> 04:03:49.460 Not even the birds of love can sing 04:03:49.460 --> 04:04:03.460 I needed to say that you had a way to make me feel new 04:04:03.460 --> 04:04:10.460 And I want to say thank you, cause you take me as I do 04:04:10.460 --> 04:04:19.460 Oh baby, take me as I am 04:04:19.460 --> 04:04:26.460 Oh, take me as I am 04:04:26.460 --> 04:04:34.460 Oh, take me, oh, take me 04:04:34.460 --> 04:04:42.460 Give me, give me, give me, give me, give me 04:04:50.460 --> 04:04:55.460 Take your toes in the water, we're out for the sun 04:04:55.460 --> 04:05:07.460 I got an office on the ship on the door 04:05:07.460 --> 04:05:11.460 A cool box sitting on the bus if I can know 04:05:11.460 --> 04:05:15.460 Let's take it hard to do anything I want 04:06:15.460 --> 04:06:32.060 Dream League season 29 is brought to you by DHL and Chex. 04:06:32.060 --> 04:06:33.760 Welcome back everyone. 04:06:33.760 --> 04:06:37.540 We have been spreading you across a variety of streams but don't worry now this is the 04:06:37.540 --> 04:06:43.440 last series for our first round of upper bracket playoffs where I've got Lacoste, I've got 04:06:43.440 --> 04:06:50.000 and I've got a wealth of information to expect about this Aurora versus a Navi series from Quinn 04:06:50.880 --> 04:06:56.380 That is a very very right. You know, there's lots of legendary matchups in Dota history. There's Tundra versus Falcons 04:06:56.380 --> 04:07:02.400 There's Spirit versus Extreme. There's Navi versus Alliance because the list goes on and on of all the iconic Dota matches 04:07:02.400 --> 04:07:08.000 And we've got one here now between Navi and Aurora with a may oh they've never played me. Oh, I see 04:07:08.000 --> 04:07:11.800 Okay, well these two teams have actually never played a single match against each other 04:07:11.800 --> 04:07:14.160 So we're treading new ground here. It's not very often 04:07:14.160 --> 04:07:17.600 I think you run into a series where they've actually never played against each other in their entirety 04:07:17.600 --> 04:07:21.600 So I'm very interested to see how these things match up in your team matchups 04:07:22.000 --> 04:07:25.960 Do a lot of work and something that also does a lot of work is mid matchups 04:07:25.960 --> 04:07:28.840 So I want to take a look at couple of these mid players and look at some of their hero pools 04:07:28.840 --> 04:07:32.800 And if we see to me, there's very different stylistic differences between these players 04:07:32.800 --> 04:07:37.000 So Nico, I think it's sort of a hipster sort of a counter picker and like a weird hero player 04:07:37.000 --> 04:07:40.680 He gets a kick out of playing stuff that's out of the meta compared to Makoto if you look at his heroes 04:07:40.680 --> 04:07:46.760 He's very much a I play the spirits I play my heroes and I run them no matter what whereas Niku is more of a counter picker 04:07:46.760 --> 04:07:52.160 And when I think those styles clash it creates very interesting dynamics in a game because you've got one guy who really wants to own 04:07:52.160 --> 04:07:56.240 The other guy and pick some weird stuff and the other guy is just chilling and vibing and playing his comfort 04:07:56.240 --> 04:08:01.440 And I think that means that you create some dissonance and means that the focus around the mid lane specifically 04:08:01.440 --> 04:08:04.980 So I'm very excited to see how these two players play out and see if Niku's 04:08:05.440 --> 04:08:09.920 Counterpicking and hipster UNESCO can get the better Makoto or whether you know Puck is just too dog on good 04:08:09.920 --> 04:08:37.920 Thank you. You're welcome. Now come on down and join us, Quinn, because if you don't have enough information on what Navi have been up to, then I feel like that's your fault. Sure, they may have been trying to tread water in the div-to-ish kind of area, but now I think they're confidently Div 1. They have made it up in the upper bracket of our playoffs, and they have a lot of experience playing together as we found out after talking to Niku. 04:08:39.920 --> 04:08:46.920 In the last couple of months, I think our team had a bit of a struggle and ups and downs. 04:08:46.920 --> 04:08:53.920 We had some very cool moments, we were playing finals, like 3 or 4 tournaments, so we didn't make it to playoffs. 04:08:54.920 --> 04:09:04.920 We changed the diets today because we had some struggles and we needed to do something basically and we decided to change for it. 04:09:04.920 --> 04:09:10.920 Yeah, I kinda, we played like so long, like for, I think for 3 years maybe already. 04:09:10.920 --> 04:09:13.920 So maybe it was the easiest person. 04:09:13.920 --> 04:09:15.920 Let's try to heal up on him. 04:09:15.920 --> 04:09:20.720 He bought back for this, he's in trouble, got the juice, stacking up those. 04:09:20.720 --> 04:09:25.480 Fury swipes, get away, he cannot, that's a die back, Navi might have just punched their 04:09:25.480 --> 04:09:28.960 ticket, they get the GG's, this game is over. 04:09:28.960 --> 04:09:33.560 I don't know, I think like first time in Dota I see like from last three years, I think 04:09:33.560 --> 04:09:35.360 this is like so young roster. 04:09:35.360 --> 04:09:41.320 But it's all rosters, they all have like some old player, the leader, and like giving experience 04:09:41.320 --> 04:09:42.320 to everyone. 04:09:42.320 --> 04:09:45.520 So now I really kind of like trying new things. 04:09:47.360 --> 04:09:49.560 For the league I think we're going to be in good shape 04:09:49.560 --> 04:09:53.640 almost the last tournament before TI and all those big tournaments. 04:09:53.640 --> 04:09:57.960 So we're going to do the biggest effort that we can do. 04:09:57.960 --> 04:09:59.560 We'll see what will happen. 04:10:00.320 --> 04:10:03.440 You can watch how five Zoomers playing Dota. 04:10:04.960 --> 04:10:07.640 Now I was taken by surprise after hearing him say that 04:10:07.640 --> 04:10:10.960 they have been together for three years before Manus squad. 04:10:10.960 --> 04:10:17.100 But I thought how many games could that really be so I checked noxals that Dota mm-hmm after 04:10:17.620 --> 04:10:22.680 Falcons, which is now obviously the most played together squad of all time. Yeah, they've got that 04:10:22.900 --> 04:10:28.580 They've got your old team Quinn as a four-man squad playing together for the past three years the most games 04:10:28.780 --> 04:10:32.940 Okay, we've got liquid with the Insania squad 04:10:33.340 --> 04:10:36.340 We've got Talon and then we have these guys 04:10:36.340 --> 04:10:42.340 So this six the most played of the last three years four-man squad and I would not have expected that for 04:10:43.120 --> 04:10:46.540 What has been for the majority of it kind of like a div two team? 04:10:46.540 --> 04:10:47.520 I mean that's true 04:10:47.520 --> 04:10:52.480 But even like days also used to play with them like back in Navi junior then they cycled them out like four sides 04:10:52.480 --> 04:10:55.760 So it's not just these four that have a lot of experience together like even him 04:10:55.760 --> 04:10:59.820 You know bringing things yeah these and days, you know, they're back together and they're pretty good like us 04:10:59.820 --> 04:11:02.860 They are there there are some of the results were lacking with this quad 04:11:02.860 --> 04:11:06.420 But recently they've gotten better a lot of the times you would see this team 04:11:06.420 --> 04:11:11.240 You know kind of lack that little bit of punch to go into top six sometimes even 04:11:11.620 --> 04:11:16.340 Struggling to get into top eight that managed to get the second place at last lap six and also 04:11:17.260 --> 04:11:19.260 I mean fifth six places 04:11:19.380 --> 04:11:23.260 Not somewhere where they want to be but because this quad has potential 04:11:23.260 --> 04:11:27.500 And I think this might be their best showing so far ever since they got together 04:11:27.860 --> 04:11:32.780 Yeah, I mean I'm really curious to see how they do in playoffs because I think this team has a tendency like they're very inconsistent 04:11:32.780 --> 04:11:37.400 Yeah, Nico specifically is a player who has some wild swings in performance 04:11:37.400 --> 04:11:41.560 And I think they also struggled with pressure a little bit like I think in the finals against Liquid or some of those games 04:11:41.560 --> 04:11:43.560 They did not play to their absolute best 04:11:43.580 --> 04:11:46.100 And so I look at you know now they're in the best of three territory now 04:11:46.100 --> 04:11:51.580 You start getting further in the tournament like does the pressure get to them or they keep playing well because I think I'm honestly really surprised 04:11:51.580 --> 04:11:52.460 It's still all in the group 04:11:52.460 --> 04:11:54.620 I always expect them to be like a middle of the pack team 04:11:54.620 --> 04:11:58.780 But you said who squeaks into groups or squeaks into playoffs rather and then kind of gets like sixth place 04:11:58.780 --> 04:12:00.640 And that's not what they're on course for now 04:12:00.640 --> 04:12:05.840 I want to see if they can actually keep that up so what brought them to this point and how they get so good in the group stage 04:12:06.160 --> 04:12:10.860 First of all, I think they've stepped up the gameplay. I think Nico is incredibly inconsistent like Quinn said I fully agree 04:12:10.860 --> 04:12:12.880 I think also my boy GTJ mr. 04:12:12.880 --> 04:12:18.640 Got to juice he's been popping if you watch this guy play his camera is going everywhere because he's looking at the next move 04:12:18.640 --> 04:12:22.560 You know, he's gonna go through the gate. He's gonna keep you mid this guy. He's the real stuff 04:12:23.760 --> 04:12:25.760 Back to you look off back to me. Yeah 04:12:25.760 --> 04:12:32.840 We have these, DZ and now we have someone who makes you dizzy with the camera movement if you're watching it from his perspective 04:12:32.840 --> 04:12:35.280 But yeah, they they looked very good 04:12:35.600 --> 04:12:41.000 They topped the group only losing one B03 and their drafts look good. This is what matters 04:12:41.000 --> 04:12:47.760 I think they kind of pickings themselves heroes that are relatively easy to execute. They're not over complicating things and 04:12:48.760 --> 04:12:53.440 Because how do you feel about days? He you coached him during your short era? 04:12:53.440 --> 04:12:54.440 Oh yeah! 04:12:54.440 --> 04:12:57.800 My boy Tamir Tokpanov, this guy is good. 04:12:57.800 --> 04:13:02.040 I remember also like even before he played like before we took him or before he's now 04:13:02.040 --> 04:13:05.440 back in his team, there was a clip of Crit where he's like watching Na'Vi Jr. and he's 04:13:05.440 --> 04:13:07.120 like this day's guy, he's good. 04:13:07.120 --> 04:13:08.120 This is like two or three years ago. 04:13:08.120 --> 04:13:09.120 Wow. 04:13:09.120 --> 04:13:11.280 So like you know it's not just people that think he's good, it's also like the best players 04:13:11.280 --> 04:13:12.280 which is good. 04:13:12.280 --> 04:13:14.080 Crit specifically does think very highly of him. 04:13:14.080 --> 04:13:15.080 Exactly. 04:13:15.080 --> 04:13:19.840 And like this guy, his Rubik, his SD, especially his this guy Spellcasting is very very good. 04:13:19.840 --> 04:13:25.960 Yeah, you said that his hoodwink is really good because day's nuts like he can always like plant that plant that the now with 04:13:25.960 --> 04:13:33.420 Far away. Yeah far away being in hoodwink meta, especially that extra bit of a you know the damage the 440 build he shines on the hero 04:13:33.420 --> 04:13:33.920 Yeah 04:13:34.680 --> 04:13:36.180 And because the neutral item also 04:13:37.580 --> 04:13:38.780 You can you can run around 04:13:38.780 --> 04:13:40.280 Yeah day's nuts is really good 04:13:40.280 --> 04:13:42.280 And now it's a tier 5 neutral item so 04:13:42.880 --> 04:13:44.480 Kind of hard to get it 04:13:44.480 --> 04:13:49.520 I'm so surprised that they pick axe over puck like they just hand Makoto's puck 04:13:49.520 --> 04:13:52.600 I also think puck is like pretty good against axe generally 04:13:52.600 --> 04:13:57.040 It's not a very easy hero to call if you do call him he dies, but like you won't call Makoto 04:13:57.040 --> 04:14:00.200 It's just not gonna happen. So to me. It's like why why this trade? 04:14:00.200 --> 04:14:03.320 So they have they're the team that has played the most axe 04:14:03.320 --> 04:14:08.880 I think PMA has played this hero seven times maybe even eight times with a pretty good successor 04:14:08.880 --> 04:14:13.840 Maybe like six and one or seven and one and perhaps also if you look at Niko's hero pool 04:14:13.840 --> 04:14:17.640 I mean because you know that Mikota will pick pop right there. So yeah, it's likely hood 04:14:17.640 --> 04:14:21.280 They first pick it. Yeah, so like maybe there they know that Nico has a lot of heroes 04:14:21.280 --> 04:14:24.680 He's played night stalker in this matchup before they lost silencer like 04:14:25.400 --> 04:14:28.520 Surely they have ideas. I'm not saying I love them. You probably don't love them 04:14:28.680 --> 04:14:30.600 But they've got some stuff that they want 04:14:30.600 --> 04:14:36.360 I'm just gonna bring up some stats that I have had ready for previous Valakia about Mikota spot because they were 04:14:37.000 --> 04:14:39.480 Picking it a lot. So picked in the first phase 04:14:39.480 --> 04:14:44.360 He had 50% win rate picked in the second phase 14 times in the first one 04:14:44.360 --> 04:14:48.940 They picked it four times sitting at 85% win rate there shakes in the last phase 04:14:49.120 --> 04:14:50.900 He had 100% win rate 04:14:50.900 --> 04:14:56.780 So we've got an opportunity to potentially counter this buck who picked in the first phase doesn't look as good 04:14:57.300 --> 04:15:01.760 Yeah, I mean it definitely is a hero that like in a free pocket. Let's just like call it thrown a towel 04:15:01.760 --> 04:15:04.440 There's no winning so when you have counters it does like I agree 04:15:04.440 --> 04:15:07.960 It's probably Nightstalker of always fear are the most likely ones you're looking at Niku 04:15:07.960 --> 04:15:12.600 I think he's played Void Spirit some of the most of anyone so far this tournament and he's also like won some games compared to a 04:15:12.600 --> 04:15:15.320 Lot of players. I think it's done pretty badly on this hero 04:15:16.000 --> 04:15:19.400 It's it's not that strong right now, and it does take a good bit of fast 04:15:19.400 --> 04:15:21.680 He was like playing in pubs of me and stuff too before this event 04:15:21.680 --> 04:15:25.160 So it's a hero he's comfortable on and I'm curious to see which one they do 04:15:25.160 --> 04:15:29.640 I think the Night Stalker is kind of fake to be honest like I think a good puck player you buy a four staff 04:15:29.640 --> 04:15:33.960 You space this guy you understand that he wants to jump you there's a lot of matchups like that 04:15:33.960 --> 04:15:36.220 or like some guy is focusing you, so you just wait. 04:15:36.220 --> 04:15:39.440 Like waiting in Team Pipe is a really important skill. 04:15:39.440 --> 04:15:41.520 Then if you think that's like one of the more fake ones, 04:15:41.520 --> 04:15:44.160 you just lean on the Void Spirit? 04:15:44.160 --> 04:15:45.000 Probably. 04:15:45.000 --> 04:15:45.840 I think Void Spirit's not fake. 04:15:45.840 --> 04:15:47.440 Like it's skill based, 04:15:47.440 --> 04:15:49.360 like a good puck and play against Void Spirit, that's okay. 04:15:49.360 --> 04:15:51.240 But it is a counter. 04:15:51.240 --> 04:15:52.720 And what are we thinking about this axe? 04:15:52.720 --> 04:15:57.560 Is this like why axe straight first phase pick, 04:15:57.560 --> 04:15:58.560 first overall pick? 04:15:58.560 --> 04:16:01.120 Is this because ninth fall is not going to be able 04:16:01.120 --> 04:16:02.800 to PKB TP out or what? 04:16:02.800 --> 04:16:07.800 That's a good point. That might be it. I don't think we need any more analysis. 04:16:07.800 --> 04:16:14.800 No, I think from what I've heard, I think it's PMA guy, the kind of guy who, like he sometimes is really confident and gets his hero first dazed. 04:16:14.800 --> 04:16:20.800 And I think when you have a player like that who just likes a hero and they just want to play it, I think you take advantage of that and you just give it to people. 04:16:20.800 --> 04:16:25.800 Because a lot of players get scared, especially going into later phase. They don't get counter picked and this and that. 04:16:25.800 --> 04:16:28.800 So if you have a guy who's just like, just give me, it's like a 33 way of playing, right? 04:16:28.800 --> 04:16:32.800 You just first pick his hero and then he wins the game, but that feels really good in traffic. 04:16:32.800 --> 04:16:36.800 This also seems like a game one of a series experimentation. 04:16:36.800 --> 04:16:41.800 Let's see if we can get away with our axe, let's see if I can give Makoto his puck, and if we can still break it. 04:16:41.800 --> 04:16:48.800 One of the big things I see also with axe is the fact that this hero really helps like your four win the lane, 04:16:48.800 --> 04:16:51.800 because Battlehunger is just a freaking stupid spell. 04:16:51.800 --> 04:16:54.800 Like, your four can nearly never lose the trade to the five. 04:16:54.800 --> 04:16:58.800 One battle hunger, you keep laning the forties, beating on the five, and you're kind of chilling. 04:17:01.800 --> 04:17:05.800 I wonder if this is more of a steel pick or if they just wanted it, like, totally on its own. 04:17:05.800 --> 04:17:08.800 You know, I wonder if the stealing aspect of it entered their mind at all. 04:17:08.800 --> 04:17:11.800 Because it's like something that comes up sometimes, you talk about, was this a steel pick or not? 04:17:11.800 --> 04:17:16.800 And I tend to feel like, when a pick, you did it for the reason of stealing, it tends to not work. 04:17:16.800 --> 04:17:17.800 That worked well. 04:17:17.800 --> 04:17:19.800 Yeah, I think it's, you tend to lose. 04:17:19.800 --> 04:17:21.800 Are you like a get? 04:17:21.800 --> 04:17:24.920 Like that hero has counters and you're like not thinking about that hero's counters 04:17:24.920 --> 04:17:28.480 You're too busy thinking about so I wonder if that was like played into their heads at all 04:17:28.480 --> 04:17:32.840 It was just like mirror likes line we picked lion. I feel like it's mirror likes line 04:17:32.840 --> 04:17:37.680 It is his most played hero. He's played it six times and he's only lost one game over six times 04:17:38.160 --> 04:17:41.320 Yeah, very possible. I do like this talent here a lot 04:17:41.320 --> 04:17:46.280 I'm keep going keep going back the bedroom team. Yeah, or these talents are team 04:17:46.280 --> 04:17:50.360 They kind of brought it to drink the lock yet previously where they play super aggressive 04:17:50.520 --> 04:17:53.360 But a lot of early rotations for six minutes into the game 04:17:53.360 --> 04:17:56.440 You will have to support on your ass constantly as a middle laner 04:17:56.440 --> 04:18:01.480 So I want to see what the pairing is gonna be whether this is gonna be some like dust pep of a situation 04:18:01.480 --> 04:18:07.480 Or they're gonna be looking maybe towards position range position for which is gonna be most likely hoodwink for days 04:18:07.720 --> 04:18:11.740 Because you already discussed about the hero plus the main combination. There it is 04:18:11.740 --> 04:18:19.740 Because they're not just striking like a team, they have specific ideas and they will just execute them off cooldown in a way. 04:18:19.740 --> 04:18:22.740 Like they've shown this exact double pick against Puck before. 04:18:22.740 --> 04:18:29.740 I do think it has a lot of strengths, but just like everything else in Dota, it has counter play. 04:18:29.740 --> 04:18:34.740 Like both Sidencer and NS struggle against similar items, whether it's a 4 step from the park or a 4 step from someone else. 04:18:34.740 --> 04:18:39.740 So, and there's also overlap when it comes to NS, Ag, Sidencer, it's very low damage. 04:18:39.740 --> 04:18:41.740 They're going to have to cover that with other heroes. 04:18:43.080 --> 04:18:44.080 Yeah, it is true. 04:18:44.960 --> 04:18:47.160 I think you also have damage issues against... 04:18:47.620 --> 04:18:48.780 I mean, Ursa, I think is... 04:18:49.360 --> 04:18:52.580 It's good against Axe, but in some ways I think it's kind of bad against Silencer, Nightstalker, 04:18:52.580 --> 04:18:56.880 because these heroes play off kiting you, like they curse you, Silencer, Nightstalker, like Nuke's you one time, 04:18:56.880 --> 04:18:58.880 and he's sort of running around, flying in the sky. 04:18:59.040 --> 04:19:02.100 And so while Ursa is obviously good for the lane, and it's like Nightfall classic hero, 04:19:02.100 --> 04:19:03.940 I don't think it's like some super amazing pick. 04:19:03.940 --> 04:19:07.140 When I think of stuff that's good against Nightstalker, Silencer, I think of Wave Push. 04:19:07.140 --> 04:19:08.640 I think of stuff that just gives the lanes out, 04:19:08.640 --> 04:19:14.640 And now the Nightsarger ulti counterplay is not there, because you have random units that run around and give vision. 04:19:14.640 --> 04:19:21.640 Also against Axe, but to me, versus not actually that amazing here, you can't even buy Axe against Axe, you just die on sustain time. 04:19:22.640 --> 04:19:33.640 It is by far, in my mind it's Nightfall's best hero, so it has a lot to do, I would also say with their overall comfort, and I guess also just having another body that goes in. 04:19:33.640 --> 04:19:39.000 And also when I think about Keori, he's a range 5 guy, doesn't really play any melee 04:19:39.000 --> 04:19:43.580 guys so I think melee carries slightly go up when you're also lane with this guy. 04:19:43.580 --> 04:19:47.000 With Warlock, I have not been impressed with this hero, I'm not gonna lie, ever since this 04:19:47.000 --> 04:19:50.040 hero lost his stupid grimoire, it looks like a boss. 04:19:50.040 --> 04:19:54.760 Yeah, they were spending it a lot during Valakia and I gotta say I have no idea why they're 04:19:54.760 --> 04:19:56.280 still picking this hero. 04:19:56.280 --> 04:20:01.620 I assume that Nightfall loves the lane with the hero that does allow him to have a pretty 04:20:01.620 --> 04:20:06.380 free lane in terms of what he wants to do, he wants to get that landing stage untouched 04:20:06.380 --> 04:20:12.180 without the death and then go back to jungling to farm his battlecury and this is a tricorps 04:20:12.180 --> 04:20:16.180 in the first phase, first two phases which are kind of rarely seen. 04:20:16.180 --> 04:20:20.540 It's kind of cool, I like it and I think it's good against what Aurora has, like to go back 04:20:20.540 --> 04:20:24.660 to that previous point, I look at Aurora's heroes, they don't have any beef, anyone who's 04:20:24.660 --> 04:20:28.340 okay getting jumped and they also don't really have any ghost push, most of the heroes have 04:20:28.340 --> 04:20:32.100 to kind of be there to actually kill the wave besides like fatal bonding a wave or something and 04:20:32.100 --> 04:20:35.460 you're playing against all this vision you're playing against a bunch of jump right there's traps 04:20:35.460 --> 04:20:40.260 with Nightstalker this global like on a stylistic level I would much prefer to play now these heroes 04:20:40.900 --> 04:20:46.660 I love the TA also like got the juice this guy on TA it's probably one of his best heroes I also 04:20:46.660 --> 04:20:51.300 like it actually quite a lot against Ursa I think just you have this your own hero that likes to 04:20:51.300 --> 04:20:55.700 play for ages a lot you also wanted a hero that dishes out a lot of damage which you will into 04:20:55.700 --> 04:21:00.660 to X-Pulse and Nightstalker giving you silence and vision overall, I'm a huge fan of that 04:21:00.660 --> 04:21:01.660 draft so far. 04:21:01.660 --> 04:21:06.680 I also think that Aurora's draft, this type of a draft when you have Ursa, you are relying 04:21:06.680 --> 04:21:11.260 on getting that first stages, getting the second ages, being the aggressive team taking 04:21:11.260 --> 04:21:15.420 over the map, getting the Tormentor going for all these objectives with Nightstalker 04:21:15.420 --> 04:21:16.420 and Temporal Assassin. 04:21:16.420 --> 04:21:17.860 I don't think you can go for that. 04:21:17.860 --> 04:21:21.220 I think this type of a lineup, especially because this is a mid-Nightstalker, so he's 04:21:21.220 --> 04:21:25.860 going to be getting quite a lot of levels and something that is very difficult to deal 04:21:25.860 --> 04:21:30.220 with. I think I'd like to be a Night Stalker in this game, playing against Warlock, pretty 04:21:30.220 --> 04:21:32.780 much playing against any of these heroes. 04:21:32.780 --> 04:21:41.460 If we're looking at some of the next heroes coming out, I only like, I wouldn't like SD 04:21:41.460 --> 04:21:48.180 overall, what just happened, some thief? Classic Americans just stealing, classic. I could 04:21:48.180 --> 04:21:54.660 SD, SD just because there's an Ursa, otherwise I don't really like the pick, but in this draft it could fit. 04:21:54.660 --> 04:21:59.980 If not that hero, anyone that gives follow-up damage, I would say, is kinda nice. 04:21:59.980 --> 04:22:02.220 So, SD, otherwise, XD? 04:22:02.220 --> 04:22:02.720 Yeah. 04:22:02.720 --> 04:22:03.220 Okay. 04:22:07.220 --> 04:22:12.540 Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of, a lot of these late-stage warfix come down to just what does the guy want? 04:22:12.540 --> 04:22:13.040 Yeah. 04:22:13.040 --> 04:22:15.880 Because I think Fjords have a lot of fey on their hero generally, 04:22:15.880 --> 04:22:18.280 because they have this sort of like free-spirited vibe. 04:22:18.280 --> 04:22:19.480 You think about like a 9-plus, 04:22:19.480 --> 04:22:21.720 but even if someone like not as crazy as him, 04:22:21.720 --> 04:22:23.080 like a tofu or something, 04:22:23.080 --> 04:22:25.080 it's kind of like it was always when we got late in the draft, 04:22:25.080 --> 04:22:26.720 it was just like, what do you want to play? 04:22:26.720 --> 04:22:29.800 And then as long as it's like within reason and it's not like, 04:22:29.800 --> 04:22:31.920 I don't know, the stupidest thing you've ever heard of, 04:22:31.920 --> 04:22:33.840 then it's like, yeah, just play whatever, it's fine. 04:22:33.840 --> 04:22:35.360 So if you want some follow-up damage, 04:22:35.360 --> 04:22:38.640 then Snapfire does fit those goals if it was comfortable for them. 04:22:38.640 --> 04:22:45.000 You should be like at least a lot of offlaners are quite good against silencer 04:22:45.000 --> 04:22:50.080 You know you want or us to like kind of live through like their initial jump or burst 04:22:50.080 --> 04:22:57.440 There's heroes like some maybe an underlord that could work as you buy crimson pie because you're playing into ns ta like having a crimson buyer 04:22:57.440 --> 04:22:59.440 Or overall armor is super good 04:22:59.440 --> 04:23:04.640 Maybe even a hero like it may be said a melee for that could look at dark seer still think it's a playable hero overall 04:23:04.640 --> 04:23:09.800 You'll build greaves, turns and pipe. I'm not looking for a specific hero, but rather items that give you teamfight. 04:23:09.800 --> 04:23:14.920 Yeah, I would be okay with some primal beast. He has no stuns that he's playing against in the lane, 04:23:14.920 --> 04:23:20.280 or if WS wants to maybe go something to save his teammate, I think Stampede, never mind. 04:23:20.840 --> 04:23:24.440 This is a poor Phoenix, huh? Against Silencer. 04:23:24.440 --> 04:23:26.280 And Snifar. 04:23:26.280 --> 04:23:30.720 But it ruins Naisaka, turns into daytime Naisaka's like, I don't want to do that. 04:23:30.720 --> 04:23:34.120 Yeah, sure you countered this, but other than that, I'm not a big fan of this. 04:23:34.120 --> 04:23:35.120 It is his... 04:23:35.120 --> 04:23:37.120 It gets shredded. 04:23:37.120 --> 04:23:38.120 That's also a bad one. 04:23:38.120 --> 04:23:52.120 Yeah, I think we have like five different things that are very good against Phoenix, but he's also like once he came into the scene before he joined Aurora, when he was playing for Chinese teams, he was kind of the Phoenix gamer as well as how he came into the scene. 04:23:52.120 --> 04:23:55.120 So this is probably one of his better overall heroes. 04:23:55.120 --> 04:23:57.120 I'm just not a big fan of it. 04:23:57.120 --> 04:24:04.960 It's very interesting in lane against TA, but I think overall this game in mid-game will literally be won by the team that jumps 04:24:04.960 --> 04:24:09.480 I think this Phoenix can look like an absolute bot if Navi have like initial vision 04:24:09.480 --> 04:24:15.440 They go with global Nightstalker ult and nothing happens and it's a bit similar for Aurora in my opinion if I see them jump first 04:24:15.440 --> 04:24:21.980 I think they're gonna be very happy dropping the egg. It's daytime. You're chilling, but I don't know I'm vibing with this Navi draft 04:24:21.980 --> 04:24:29.120 Yeah, I definitely agree. I think the the one thing that I'm curious about is like it's Makoto puck 04:24:29.120 --> 04:24:33.280 So is the Night Stalker actually real because I think it's a little bit fake like it's not bad 04:24:33.280 --> 04:24:34.620 And it's a good Night Stalker game 04:24:34.620 --> 04:24:39.060 So I don't issue with it on a conceptual level but on a practical level sometimes these hipster midpicks 04:24:39.060 --> 04:24:43.280 They just like they don't quite click and it's hard to know exactly why but it just feels a little off 04:24:43.280 --> 04:24:45.980 And I think that is possible. What happens this game? 04:24:45.980 --> 04:24:48.840 So my eyes are on can you actually execute this? 04:24:48.840 --> 04:24:54.040 You know the hipster pick or is it like cool as if the phoenix offline is not a hipster pick 04:24:54.040 --> 04:24:59.200 It's not as hipster as Nightstalker mid I think like one level under but I believe in the Nightstalker 04:24:59.200 --> 04:25:01.480 I think Nico Nightstalker is kind of cool and he you know 04:25:01.480 --> 04:25:07.120 He's been really inconsistent by this torment. He slaps inconsistency can mean both things like a low floor 04:25:07.120 --> 04:25:11.820 But a very high so like his feeling is that we can't even see it. His floor is like undiscovered 04:25:13.080 --> 04:25:18.480 Mariana trenched him out Everest that's the range of skills that this man brings to the table the bottom to the top 04:25:18.840 --> 04:25:20.600 That's not a way. 04:25:20.600 --> 04:25:23.720 Still very curious what the ideal teamfight is for Aurora, though, 04:25:23.720 --> 04:25:27.440 because it's Makoto initiating, and then what happens next? 04:25:27.440 --> 04:25:29.160 And then they get global silence, 04:25:29.160 --> 04:25:31.240 and then there's no counter-initiation. 04:25:31.240 --> 04:25:35.280 So I feel like this is going to be a very, very difficult game for Aurora. 04:25:35.280 --> 04:25:37.480 They need to find a way to jump first. 04:25:37.480 --> 04:25:39.240 I would also say, like, Nightfall Ursa, 04:25:39.240 --> 04:25:41.320 he's the one that drives the game forward. 04:25:41.320 --> 04:25:42.320 He's got to do it. 04:25:42.320 --> 04:25:43.480 Put him in the driver's seat. 04:25:43.480 --> 04:25:44.880 Let's see if he can take advantage of it. 04:25:44.880 --> 04:25:46.880 Let's get into a game number one with Gareth. 04:25:46.880 --> 04:25:47.880 It's gonna be fun. 04:26:16.880 --> 04:26:32.880 As Nami got their group to the playoffs, hardly any easy group for them, Aurora did very well out of theirs, and the deck looked like draft wise though, SPG, kind of heavily going towards Nami. 04:26:32.880 --> 04:26:36.880 My favorite part of that entire panel was the cost of the Nightstalker impression. 04:26:36.880 --> 04:26:41.880 You know, the egg gets dropped, and I don't want to be here. I don't know what the hell that impression was. 04:26:41.880 --> 04:26:46.680 It's kind of spot-on though, when I think of Nightstalker parts, that's when I think it's some guy in the trees going like, 04:26:46.680 --> 04:26:49.780 hey, jump in and kill this guy, and then he's like, oh, and hey. 04:26:50.280 --> 04:26:54.280 And so it's like, well, it's just like, cost himself. I don't think he's cost playing a roleplay. 04:26:54.280 --> 04:26:57.980 It's just his him. Good point. It might just be LeCoste. He's a Nightstalker player, hard. 04:26:58.380 --> 04:27:02.380 This is one of those heroes that, it's just such an iconic throw to hero. It's so badass. 04:27:02.780 --> 04:27:05.680 It looks amazing. You always feel like a god. 04:27:06.680 --> 04:27:07.480 And then you lose. 04:27:07.880 --> 04:27:11.480 It just doesn't win. Like, I just don't have faith in this hero to carry it over to finish line. 04:27:11.480 --> 04:27:16.860 I would love to see Niko pop off on here because he loves playing these kind of heroes, these hipster counterpicks, 04:27:16.860 --> 04:27:20.240 where he can really just abuse you like the mid on dines, right? He played for a long time. 04:27:20.880 --> 04:27:24.780 I love watching this. It's super hype, so I'm wishing him the best of luck. 04:27:24.780 --> 04:27:29.580 He's just up against a really good puck, as Quinn said, and these really good pucks, man, they should get out at everything sometimes. 04:27:29.580 --> 04:27:33.160 If they're in the flow state, they're in the zone, they're feeling the game right. 04:27:33.160 --> 04:27:37.500 Makoto, he could have zero deaths in this game, this might be against some really big counterpicks, so... 04:27:37.500 --> 04:27:39.880 A lot of the line here for Niko in the mid lane in Game 1. 04:27:39.880 --> 04:27:43.540 Exit of Chastify, 4 staff BKB that weighs out of it. 04:27:43.540 --> 04:27:48.580 It's not just one thing the plug is worried about, it's a specific sequence of spells you've got to be careful of. 04:27:48.580 --> 04:27:52.280 And if you can break free of that sequence, it's looking pretty good. 04:27:52.280 --> 04:27:57.680 100% also kind of cool to see the TA come back in here because I feel like there are some games we should have seen this hero 04:27:57.680 --> 04:28:01.680 maybe even out of mid, though I know that's going to be blasphemy against a lot of mid players. 04:28:01.680 --> 04:28:05.480 Yeah, some of these things are weak in the meta, but in the right game they're still very strong. 04:28:05.480 --> 04:28:08.480 And so I'm glad to see this hero get a little bit of play. 04:28:08.480 --> 04:28:10.480 I don't think it's an unplanned look here by any means, 04:28:10.480 --> 04:28:12.480 or at least how people are treating it. 04:28:12.480 --> 04:28:15.480 Panel is very mixed on this Phoenix. I actually like them. 04:28:15.480 --> 04:28:19.480 I think they needed a big AOE team fight control hero. 04:28:19.480 --> 04:28:23.480 They needed someone who could also join some of the early fights with these supports. 04:28:23.480 --> 04:28:26.480 You don't want something too slow, too big, cool down the line. 04:28:26.480 --> 04:28:28.480 And I think it has great matchups against TA. 04:28:28.480 --> 04:28:31.480 I think it's a really debilitating matchup against the Coreknight soccer. 04:28:31.480 --> 04:28:34.480 And it's great against the Axe. Like he has three good Core matchups here. 04:28:34.480 --> 04:28:39.480 Yeah, your support matchup sucks, but honestly, I think the Snapfire one is whatever. 04:28:39.480 --> 04:28:42.480 If I'm on Core Phoenix, you don't press the egg anyway. 04:28:42.480 --> 04:28:45.480 I mean, yeah, you're not a center around the egg. 04:28:45.480 --> 04:28:50.480 It's Snapfire, it supports Snapfire, it can reposition the fight, run in to kill my egg with some shredder hits. 04:28:50.480 --> 04:28:54.480 Power to him, dude, like whatever, you know, my team should be able to do something about that. 04:28:54.480 --> 04:28:56.480 My punk, my lion, they're gonna be dead. 04:28:56.480 --> 04:29:00.480 Exactly, because I think in the grand scheme of things, it's cores who kill egg. 04:29:00.480 --> 04:29:05.080 supports to really ever kill egg and pro dota and especially in later games scenarios you have to be able to be 04:29:05.080 --> 04:29:08.120 KB and hit the egg most of the time because you're assuming okay he eggs and then 04:29:08.560 --> 04:29:12.760 Like you said what why into like AFK? There's no gold coming down 04:29:12.760 --> 04:29:18.520 No one's getting coiled or hit versus not three-shotting this sapphire like there's a lot of issues running up and training this in the late game 04:29:18.520 --> 04:29:20.520 So I I like 04:29:25.040 --> 04:29:28.040 Top lane already. FMA on his first pick, AXE! 04:29:28.040 --> 04:29:32.040 What a boss man. What a boss. 04:29:32.040 --> 04:29:34.040 I'm not into spinning away creeps. 04:29:34.040 --> 04:29:37.040 Warlock Ursa. I don't know. I'm a big fan of Warlock. 04:29:37.040 --> 04:29:39.040 I don't like it in these situations where, you know, 04:29:39.040 --> 04:29:42.040 Axe is a hero. Occasionally he wants to be playing on the tower. 04:29:42.040 --> 04:29:44.040 Twin gate rotation from another support. 04:29:44.040 --> 04:29:47.040 If you've got fatal bombs, you can push the lane. 04:29:47.040 --> 04:29:51.040 He'll let you carry. You give Nightfall a good time in that little bit of a couple of minutes. 04:29:51.040 --> 04:29:54.040 I think it's one of the support matches that can backfire really hard 04:29:54.040 --> 04:29:56.040 if he Axe executes the lane really well. 04:29:56.040 --> 04:30:07.040 well. Traditionally the heal against the Battlehunter, it seems nice on paper. If Axe just plays for early farms and serves mana, goes into creep cutting mode, Warlock is really bad against all players that skip the lane. 04:30:07.040 --> 04:30:10.040 And when he starts, he's dead. I just go into the snap floor. 04:30:10.040 --> 04:30:18.040 Now that's a nice little pick up right there. A gift, as the Axe did go for the wave cut, so he gets caught off in no man's land. 04:30:18.040 --> 04:30:20.040 I'm going to keep you in this mid lane. 04:30:20.040 --> 04:30:22.040 He's got six sticky charges. 04:30:22.040 --> 04:30:25.040 I don't know if this tower seems alright, but Makoto's giving it to him. 04:30:25.040 --> 04:30:27.040 He's launching in these clicks. 04:30:27.040 --> 04:30:28.040 Tough matchup, honestly. 04:30:28.040 --> 04:30:32.040 The Knights are having to play for the five minutes a day compared to that old bastard. 04:30:32.040 --> 04:30:33.040 It's brutal. 04:30:33.040 --> 04:30:35.040 Yeah, you have the extra little lifesteal here. 04:30:35.040 --> 04:30:38.040 If you could sit there and right click creeps, you can kind of lane against anything, 04:30:38.040 --> 04:30:40.040 but against most range heroes, you can't do that forever. 04:30:40.040 --> 04:30:42.040 So you should just get B out of these lane matchups. 04:30:42.040 --> 04:30:44.040 He's doing pretty well with CS, why so? 04:30:44.040 --> 04:30:46.040 So, not a bad start for Niko. 04:30:46.040 --> 04:30:48.040 when you go all things to consider. 04:30:48.040 --> 04:30:50.040 Yeah, pretty even with the puck. 04:30:50.040 --> 04:30:52.040 And itemized for that nice talker. 04:30:52.040 --> 04:30:54.040 And last time, this pletrio of heroes 04:30:54.040 --> 04:30:56.040 acts as their NS. They used to go to the 04:30:56.040 --> 04:30:58.040 Nima Galaxies puck very early on in the group stage. 04:30:58.040 --> 04:31:00.040 We saw this. Handomitis, BKB, 04:31:00.040 --> 04:31:02.040 Swatch Drust, Melafire. 04:31:02.040 --> 04:31:04.040 Lots of aggressive tools to just get on top of heroes. 04:31:04.040 --> 04:31:06.040 Expecting some attention here. 04:31:06.040 --> 04:31:08.040 He's got the Jews and Riddies. 04:31:08.040 --> 04:31:10.040 They're onto Mira, but WS with this 04:31:10.040 --> 04:31:12.040 damage over time takes out the silencer. 04:31:12.040 --> 04:31:14.040 He's got the Jews. 04:31:14.040 --> 04:31:18.740 He's gonna turn back on the Phoenix now, fire his spirits and a lotus in the pocket of this Phoenix. 04:31:18.740 --> 04:31:19.540 Hey, it's not dying. 04:31:19.540 --> 04:31:21.240 Ah, makes him far too difficult to kill. 04:31:22.540 --> 04:31:23.340 Is he really just- 04:31:23.340 --> 04:31:24.040 Oi! 04:31:24.040 --> 04:31:24.740 Hoo-hoo! 04:31:24.740 --> 04:31:27.140 I was about to say, is he really just gonna stand there and get scybladed? 04:31:27.140 --> 04:31:28.240 Yeah, he's playing! 04:31:28.240 --> 04:31:29.640 Though they're not level one scybladed. 04:31:29.640 --> 04:31:31.740 And PMA, he's gonna kill both as well. 04:31:31.740 --> 04:31:35.140 Shadow Word on him, Furious Wife stacked up and another Tate Pound. 04:31:36.040 --> 04:31:37.040 Sidelanes. 04:31:37.440 --> 04:31:38.940 Going wild for Aurora. 04:31:38.940 --> 04:31:40.540 It's just a bloodbath out here. 04:31:40.540 --> 04:31:51.040 It's really big to get this axe chased on again. I think Warlock is really weak in these lane cutting scenarios like Darkseer tends to abuse his hero, Venel, some of these cheesier lane skippers. 04:31:51.040 --> 04:31:57.840 So the fact that you can find this extra kill would get some experience, like Kauri up here, especially when he's not getting a lot of small camps off. 04:31:57.840 --> 04:32:03.840 It's a big deal for this Warlock nearly, and we're trying to get to these early level 6 and use it as soon as possible. 04:32:03.840 --> 04:32:05.840 Hey, let's play and head on. 04:32:05.840 --> 04:32:10.840 On nighttime now and immediately Niku just runs up with Kurozai, showing you what the 04:32:10.840 --> 04:32:12.840 nice small thing to do. 04:32:12.840 --> 04:32:13.840 What's up, bro? 04:32:13.840 --> 04:32:15.840 What are you gonna do about it? 04:32:15.840 --> 04:32:16.840 I'm just in three times. 04:32:16.840 --> 04:32:17.840 Okay, right. 04:32:17.840 --> 04:32:18.840 Well, that's my job done. 04:32:18.840 --> 04:32:23.840 So you're all gonna snowball really fast in these nighttime periods with the new midnight 04:32:23.840 --> 04:32:24.840 fees. 04:32:24.840 --> 04:32:27.840 You just get a good fight, you insta-heal back up off a big creep, you go to the next fight 04:32:27.840 --> 04:32:29.840 and the 30 seconds later you're back to full. 04:32:29.840 --> 04:32:31.840 The resource management is insane. 04:32:31.840 --> 04:32:34.640 You don't have to buy region items, I'm telling you. 04:32:34.640 --> 04:32:38.640 So, it's a big change to the hero in terms of fundamentally how he works. 04:32:38.640 --> 04:32:40.560 Gives you a lot more freedom in these nighttime periods, 04:32:40.560 --> 04:32:42.560 you can just kind of run, ramp it in a fight. 04:32:43.200 --> 04:32:46.960 And then even if it takes all your resources to kill someone, normally that feels really bad. 04:32:46.960 --> 04:32:49.200 Well, now you can back up the full, and now you can do it again. 04:32:49.200 --> 04:32:52.800 So, there's not that same punishment for a mid in terms of, like, Storm. 04:32:52.800 --> 04:32:54.240 I use all my mana and kill the support. 04:32:54.240 --> 04:32:55.120 You just worked on them. 04:32:55.120 --> 04:32:56.160 Is that even a good play? 04:32:56.160 --> 04:32:58.000 It's like, ugh, dead on the map. 04:32:58.000 --> 04:32:59.920 This hero, never dead on the map, so... 04:32:59.920 --> 04:33:03.920 All plays are good plays, when it comes down to it. 04:33:03.920 --> 04:33:04.920 Come on, it's Kihei! 04:33:04.920 --> 04:33:05.920 He didn't burn down! 04:33:05.920 --> 04:33:06.920 He's dead! 04:33:06.920 --> 04:33:07.920 Oh, the core matchups! 04:33:07.920 --> 04:33:11.920 His finish just burns him near against the kill, but there's a trade out while middle lane 04:33:11.920 --> 04:33:12.920 the dive under tower from Niko. 04:33:12.920 --> 04:33:16.920 Looking at Kiori, but there's a coil out of Mikoto, snapping on the nice stalker. 04:33:16.920 --> 04:33:18.920 He's got a big wand. 04:33:18.920 --> 04:33:19.920 That's fine. 04:33:19.920 --> 04:33:23.920 Did take a couple of reactions out of Aurora to defend this mid lane. 04:33:23.920 --> 04:33:24.920 This is Ascension though. 04:33:24.920 --> 04:33:27.920 Didn't even get a support kill. 04:33:27.920 --> 04:33:33.040 It was a little rough for me to hear connect the final creepy as well. Let's just try to kill the Kodo 04:33:33.040 --> 04:33:37.340 I wanted to go in he did spend the orbs today move in with a cookie and a lap down 04:33:37.560 --> 04:33:42.760 Even bringing rings the ready is along for the ride. I guess we'll instill that's super nice 04:33:44.760 --> 04:33:51.460 Expecting that it does leave these side lanes yellow open as well that lane dragging by the axe keep you back to the tier 2 04:33:51.460 --> 04:33:57.460 I didn't respect the end of that expansion. 04:33:57.460 --> 04:33:59.460 So we'll trade out wisdom trines. 04:33:59.460 --> 04:34:02.460 I think there's always a possibility of contesting a 7-minute wisdom trine with the core knight's 04:34:02.460 --> 04:34:05.460 docker because you're just so strong in this period. 04:34:05.460 --> 04:34:07.460 Still no egg for WS, you know, he's a long way off that. 04:34:07.460 --> 04:34:09.460 I think it does for the Phoenix hurt here. 04:34:09.460 --> 04:34:11.460 He did get some pressure on the team, but he got... 04:34:11.460 --> 04:34:13.460 The one side blade kill really set him back, yeah? 04:34:13.460 --> 04:34:17.460 And then that other trade that happened was a result of that side blade kill. 04:34:17.460 --> 04:34:20.900 You can see a world of those Phoenix might have been up 2-0 instead of down 1-2. 04:34:24.020 --> 04:34:29.380 Crazy that TA has had pressure put on her, and it's not looked like the best lane, still top of the net worth, it's 3,500. 04:34:29.380 --> 04:34:33.380 Yeah, Templar's ass and things. She's very high level, got a lot of solo XP still. 04:34:34.500 --> 04:34:36.260 Lane phase looking pretty good here for Adi. 04:34:37.620 --> 04:34:41.140 Okay, now top doesn't really want to see him lane-y as might fall anymore, level 6. 04:34:41.140 --> 04:34:42.100 Oh, so fast! 04:34:43.860 --> 04:34:45.380 Two supports wandering around. 04:34:45.380 --> 04:34:48.820 Did- was that Nightfall's courier that died in mid lane? 04:34:48.820 --> 04:34:49.320 What? 04:34:49.320 --> 04:34:50.120 Ha ha ha! 04:34:50.120 --> 04:34:51.000 I swear. 04:34:51.000 --> 04:34:52.020 That he's just killed in mid? 04:34:52.020 --> 04:34:54.220 Yeah, he killed Nightfall's courier mid. 04:34:54.220 --> 04:34:55.100 Interesting. 04:34:55.100 --> 04:34:57.300 Was he running voidstone across the map? 04:34:57.300 --> 04:34:58.020 That's ridiculous. 04:34:58.020 --> 04:34:58.520 Come on. 04:34:58.520 --> 04:35:00.520 That is a nightfall thing to do, isn't it? 04:35:00.520 --> 04:35:03.820 I mean, your courier cannot be KBTP out in that mid like you gotta watch. 04:35:03.820 --> 04:35:04.820 Ha ha ha! 04:35:06.060 --> 04:35:07.900 The mirror's gonna start on the night still, okay? 04:35:07.900 --> 04:35:08.940 It's a takey void. 04:35:08.940 --> 04:35:11.980 He's got 1600 health and 1 charges. 04:35:11.980 --> 04:35:13.480 That's just not happening, is it? 04:35:13.480 --> 04:35:16.200 They'll take more damage out of the Arcane Curse than they did to him. 04:35:16.700 --> 04:35:20.000 I'm not sure I'd agree with that play at all. Like they're bringing the Earths in. 04:35:20.000 --> 04:35:23.400 Wrestle with 5! No chance to supernova or anything! 04:35:23.400 --> 04:35:27.200 He's getting abused. Got to choose to play this super well down here. 04:35:27.640 --> 04:35:29.200 I don't know, straight away it won't be one lane. 04:35:29.800 --> 04:35:32.200 He's gonna be a problem. He's really bad. 04:35:32.400 --> 04:35:37.600 His counterfeit that was your last pick in the Phoenix did not win lane. It's gonna have to play for behind. 04:35:37.600 --> 04:35:42.800 And the TA is going to have so much space as well, like having an extended laning phase 04:35:42.800 --> 04:35:47.700 as a TA feels good, and then having these tanky playmaker calls that can actually front 04:35:47.700 --> 04:35:50.800 for you while you farm ancients and sit back a little bit. 04:35:50.800 --> 04:35:53.680 I'm just going to do a short explosion into the end. 04:35:53.680 --> 04:35:57.680 Act in the meantime though, and then finally stepping out in this lane, and it's going 04:35:57.680 --> 04:36:02.520 to take him down on a K-Ori on a killing spree on this wallop, but knife all the damage 04:36:02.520 --> 04:36:03.520 really. 04:36:03.520 --> 04:36:04.520 3-0 start. 04:36:04.520 --> 04:36:07.120 It's going to be a nice little level 6 timing here. 04:36:07.120 --> 04:36:09.120 Where's his book, son? 04:36:09.120 --> 04:36:10.120 No book. 04:36:10.120 --> 04:36:11.120 No more book. 04:36:11.120 --> 04:36:12.120 Very sad life. 04:36:12.120 --> 04:36:13.120 Right. 04:36:13.120 --> 04:36:14.120 Nightstalker Hand of Midas. 04:36:14.120 --> 04:36:16.120 This item, everyone's flames it. 04:36:16.120 --> 04:36:17.120 It says it's garbage. 04:36:17.120 --> 04:36:19.120 And then we'll come back and attack it, because Niku, 04:36:19.120 --> 04:36:21.120 even without the Midas, is running at them. 04:36:21.120 --> 04:36:22.120 He's a master. 04:36:22.120 --> 04:36:23.120 Three heroes here. 04:36:23.120 --> 04:36:25.120 Even the fourth TPing is Mikoto. 04:36:25.120 --> 04:36:26.120 He wants to react to this. 04:36:26.120 --> 04:36:28.120 Nightfall, a little isolated. 04:36:28.120 --> 04:36:30.120 Lion also TPing out. 04:36:30.120 --> 04:36:32.120 See if Niku goes for a second round. 04:36:32.120 --> 04:36:34.120 Definitely might go back in here. 04:36:34.120 --> 04:36:36.120 Keeps tabs on the Ursus Escape. 04:36:36.120 --> 04:36:43.680 Splice over the trees and days ready just to go in under this tower. PMA will help out such riddies has arrived for some more intelligence to steal 04:36:45.000 --> 04:36:46.760 You've got no more book 04:36:46.760 --> 04:36:52.160 He's illiterate now warlock having his insta stolen two and nightfall when he can't even tee be out of this one 04:36:52.160 --> 04:36:55.200 Just gonna get surrounded on all sides. It's the main steel as well 04:36:55.200 --> 04:36:59.880 There you go. Yeah, you were the double kill gets the dunk down and Makoto look I've got the juice that 04:36:59.880 --> 04:37:06.880 Yeah, he's moved into the twin gate. Coil needed defensively. This nice fogger far too tanky to contend with, they'll have to bail. 04:37:06.880 --> 04:37:08.880 What a takeoff. 04:37:08.880 --> 04:37:10.880 So, no further chase there. 04:37:10.880 --> 04:37:12.880 Get out of where you're caught. 04:37:12.880 --> 04:37:16.880 Hey, you stay loose. Losing Coil here though feels pretty bad. 04:37:16.880 --> 04:37:19.880 Look at the hex on the stylus, sir. Didn't stop the nice fogger BBs. 04:37:19.880 --> 04:37:20.880 Yeah, what? 04:37:20.880 --> 04:37:22.880 Let's just get the three beyond riddies, I guess? 04:37:22.880 --> 04:37:26.880 God, they should have gone up there. That was a long TP. 04:37:26.880 --> 04:37:29.880 Maybe I fogged last minute on that tree line. 04:37:29.880 --> 04:37:31.880 Okay. He could dead anyway. 04:37:31.880 --> 04:37:33.880 Fatal bonds. 04:37:33.880 --> 04:37:35.880 Ah, chop him in. 04:37:35.880 --> 04:37:39.880 There's a damage chunking him down and there's some little imps following him. 04:37:39.880 --> 04:37:41.880 We've got two wand. High five, 30 health. 04:37:41.880 --> 04:37:43.880 He's flying with a tower killing them. 04:37:45.880 --> 04:37:51.880 Mirror and Makoto also contesting enemy stacks and this BMA tried to clear them. 04:37:51.880 --> 04:37:54.760 I think we're dead, that's enough, but now the puck! 04:37:54.760 --> 04:37:59.600 I'm chasing land in from Day's Mirror, gonna get blown up while WS dives forward! 04:37:59.600 --> 04:38:06.280 Get the damage onto Riddies, and I don't need more respawns because Kaori and Nifor cut across and dealt with the snapfire! 04:38:06.280 --> 04:38:09.520 This is a classic Na'Vi game, just a bloodbath. 04:38:09.520 --> 04:38:14.120 Just straight brawls all over the place, Aurora. Came to match it here. 04:38:14.120 --> 04:38:19.760 And I like the idea, you always want to get too progressive in these down periods for the Night's Salker. 04:38:19.760 --> 04:38:25.860 You're playing five on one. You have to take advantage. You don't want to just KFK during day and then get pounded during night. So 04:38:27.560 --> 04:38:29.760 Make some moves, take some space away from them. 04:38:30.920 --> 04:38:33.600 Guess that's not done. You're all losing a decent amount of ink here. 04:38:33.920 --> 04:38:38.120 He's actually gotten a couple of the bonus intelligence because the unit was silenced when he died. 04:38:38.120 --> 04:38:43.040 Oh, so he's already up to nine. Some of this came from the pod which kind of sucks. There's another plus two there. 04:38:43.680 --> 04:38:45.680 Swog. 04:38:45.920 --> 04:38:48.560 Climbing to climb in the chart. He's getting there. 04:38:49.760 --> 04:38:51.760 A couple of support kills, yes, mate. 04:38:51.760 --> 04:38:52.760 For Aurora. 04:38:52.760 --> 04:38:55.760 Just never dealing with this TA or Night Sparger. 04:38:55.760 --> 04:38:56.760 You're looking at... 04:38:56.760 --> 04:38:58.760 Got the juice of ATK, it's 7k net worth already. 04:38:58.760 --> 04:38:59.760 He is dead of play. 04:38:59.760 --> 04:39:00.760 The problem. 04:39:00.760 --> 04:39:02.760 And you're onto the axe again, though. 04:39:02.760 --> 04:39:05.760 Like you said, they're really building up this tempo. 04:39:05.760 --> 04:39:08.760 They're picking up the pace, getting towards that enemy wisdom shrine. 04:39:08.760 --> 04:39:10.760 It's still like pub or something. 04:39:10.760 --> 04:39:12.760 We're just gonna run around, killed people. 04:39:12.760 --> 04:39:14.760 It's a group strategy or some macro idea. 04:39:14.760 --> 04:39:15.760 And why are there four heroes here? 04:39:15.760 --> 04:39:16.760 Exactly. 04:39:16.760 --> 04:39:17.760 God knows. 04:39:17.760 --> 04:39:18.760 That's what I'd be saying. 04:39:18.760 --> 04:39:20.760 Like the place we tried isn't even up yet. 04:39:20.760 --> 04:39:22.760 I was literally looking at the timer. 04:39:22.760 --> 04:39:24.760 I'm like, oh, they're contesting with the trust. 04:39:24.760 --> 04:39:26.760 No, they're just ruining this guy's day. 04:39:26.760 --> 04:39:28.760 That's way to go. 04:39:28.760 --> 04:39:30.760 You have the mightiest done on the nice stalker, so 04:39:30.760 --> 04:39:32.760 it's going to be able to catch up here. 04:39:32.760 --> 04:39:34.760 And as you mentioned, this TA is definitely the outlier on this game. 04:39:34.760 --> 04:39:36.760 Without the juices, just 04:39:36.760 --> 04:39:38.760 mega bad here. 04:39:38.760 --> 04:39:40.760 It's huge. 04:39:40.760 --> 04:39:42.760 If he goes to the fight, dies. This will reset a lot of momentum, 04:39:42.760 --> 04:39:44.760 but it could have like a perfect 04:39:44.760 --> 04:39:46.760 gameplay or triple bounty runes feel 04:39:46.760 --> 04:39:48.760 We can spend so much money, no one's here! 04:39:48.760 --> 04:39:50.760 No one's played down here, oh. 04:39:50.760 --> 04:39:52.760 Okay, it's a very happy game, probably with a gold. 04:39:52.760 --> 04:39:55.760 So, can you explain why I have the Midas good here? 04:39:55.760 --> 04:39:57.760 Oh, for Nightstalker. 04:39:57.760 --> 04:40:00.760 So, I feel like this item has kind of been put in the bin. 04:40:00.760 --> 04:40:04.760 So, Midas is objectively a terrible item. 04:40:04.760 --> 04:40:06.760 I will not defend it. 04:40:06.760 --> 04:40:10.760 It is basically a negative price for a long time with extremely minimal payoff. 04:40:10.760 --> 04:40:12.760 I feel like there's a butt coming. 04:40:12.760 --> 04:40:14.760 You do get attack speed. 04:40:14.760 --> 04:40:19.280 So basically, it's only salvageable on heroes that benefit from the attack speed to some degree. 04:40:21.760 --> 04:40:26.920 You're basically banning on heroes that you don't know what else to buy, and you need some innervier item that's gonna help you farm. 04:40:26.920 --> 04:40:28.700 So you don't want to rush BKB. 04:40:28.700 --> 04:40:32.480 He's not going to buy some male strumble battle gear or anything, right? He does not raid Inspire. 04:40:32.480 --> 04:40:34.360 Basically, his might is good, no. 04:40:34.360 --> 04:40:36.680 Okay, so what would I buy here instead? 04:40:38.520 --> 04:40:40.520 I think the other item is back. 04:40:40.520 --> 04:40:42.280 The other item is armlet on this hero. 04:40:42.280 --> 04:40:43.080 Oh, that's cool. 04:40:43.080 --> 04:40:48.080 And I think there is a very solid argument that he should be getting armlet over Midas 04:40:48.080 --> 04:40:53.780 because if the armlet translates into one or two extra kills, it has already paid itself off far more than the Midas. 04:40:53.780 --> 04:40:56.480 Here any similar attack speed, efficiency, stuff like that. 04:40:56.480 --> 04:41:01.480 The Midas is a more consistent option if you aren't going to get kills, but I always ask myself, 04:41:01.480 --> 04:41:03.980 why are you playing Nightstalk if you're not getting kills, you know? 04:41:03.980 --> 04:41:09.780 And the game's already kind of not going your way. So, I'm not a fan of this, but I think it's... 04:41:09.780 --> 04:41:18.040 There's a logic to it at least on this hero compared to a lot of others just because it doesn't have a good small cheep item other than armlet and 04:41:18.440 --> 04:41:22.320 A lot of players don't like playing with armlet honestly. I think it feels awkward to play with 04:41:23.320 --> 04:41:26.320 You have to be a real sadistic freak to play with armlet 04:41:29.800 --> 04:41:33.260 Aurora looking to try and get something before it turns nighttime again 04:41:33.260 --> 04:41:35.260 And... 04:41:35.260 --> 04:41:37.260 Ah, the very wise is stepping back though. 04:41:37.260 --> 04:41:40.260 It's looking to get caught in this violence over towards the ancients. 04:41:40.260 --> 04:41:43.260 As the Nightstalker and the axe are looking to reset, they'll force the egg, 04:41:43.260 --> 04:41:47.260 pulling up the lion, killing him off with a massive swipe out, egg down as well, 04:41:47.260 --> 04:41:50.260 while the defensive coil and golem get spent on the Nightstalker, 04:41:50.260 --> 04:41:52.260 knowing it's about to turn night time. 04:41:52.260 --> 04:41:54.260 And PMA, while the chase is on, 04:41:54.260 --> 04:41:56.260 he's up to this high ground with kisses over the top of Kaori, 04:41:56.260 --> 04:41:58.260 got that juice, just comes in with a double kill. 04:41:58.260 --> 04:42:01.260 Slices into Aurora. 04:42:01.260 --> 04:42:03.500 Aggressive move, not paying off at all! 04:42:03.500 --> 04:42:05.180 Now V with a perfect response! 04:42:05.180 --> 04:42:06.340 Very aggressive. 04:42:06.940 --> 04:42:09.020 You know Ascension's up, you know Global's up. 04:42:09.580 --> 04:42:12.780 They're just going in two-man, trying to find some pick-off on the TA. 04:42:12.780 --> 04:42:13.900 Maybe the pressure of... 04:42:13.900 --> 04:42:17.260 Got the juices insane game here, getting to Aurora a little bit. 04:42:18.620 --> 04:42:20.460 Now you're gonna head into that nighttime. 04:42:20.460 --> 04:42:21.340 He's out of control. 04:42:21.340 --> 04:42:22.140 How did this is? 04:42:23.260 --> 04:42:24.140 You just stop... 04:42:25.660 --> 04:42:27.420 Stop touching this guy. 04:42:27.420 --> 04:42:28.940 It's not ending well for you. 04:42:28.940 --> 04:42:29.820 Hide in the trees. 04:42:29.820 --> 04:42:30.540 Stay in the fog. 04:42:30.540 --> 04:42:34.320 Don't show on the map. They're gonna try again. I don't know bad. It's just hasn't worked 04:42:34.320 --> 04:42:39.480 I have WS is just dived in on this I'm now with days and riddies nearby the two-man cookie lambs 04:42:39.480 --> 04:42:41.920 The coat so I'm gonna trade back onto the snap wire 04:42:42.640 --> 04:42:45.740 WS is ticking low, but I choose you got away 04:42:47.320 --> 04:42:49.320 That didn't even feel like a win for Aurora 04:42:49.880 --> 04:42:52.780 It's like they barely got out of there even though they got a kill out of it 04:42:52.780 --> 04:42:57.780 And then top lane is setting up as well. 04:42:57.780 --> 04:43:01.780 They've got vision a little deeper, watching Nightfall move into the jungle. 04:43:01.780 --> 04:43:05.780 And he's finished his battle fury about a minute and a half ago, so this is his acceleration period, 04:43:05.780 --> 04:43:09.780 where he's trying to rush into the blink of the basher. 04:43:09.780 --> 04:43:12.780 This particular case is trying to catch up. 04:43:12.780 --> 04:43:15.780 Some recovery needs to be done here to close that gap, 04:43:15.780 --> 04:43:18.780 especially if you want to contest some of these early rush ons. 04:43:18.780 --> 04:43:24.880 Kind of got the juices games are run right now in terms of those objectives, particularly the night time of lines could be a very early rush here. 04:43:25.280 --> 04:43:27.880 If Navi are feeling up for it, if they get a teamfight, went around the murder. 04:43:31.080 --> 04:43:33.180 The code is just going standard, which would blink. 04:43:33.680 --> 04:43:37.680 So no early four staffer BKB though. The third item is usually when you're going to go for it. 04:43:37.980 --> 04:43:39.480 He's actually considering Jules now. 04:43:40.380 --> 04:43:41.680 Straight up global for the Phoenix. 04:43:42.480 --> 04:43:46.380 Nikko and Riddie's here, so more filling antigens. All this violence there, another plus two. 04:43:46.380 --> 04:43:49.380 Nice little vine there for Niku. 04:43:49.380 --> 04:43:53.380 But yeah, name of the game for Nikoto's park is going to be patience, right? 04:43:53.380 --> 04:43:58.380 Wait till you see or hear the global sea the Night Stalker. Make your move after that. 04:43:58.380 --> 04:44:03.380 And rely on some of the other heroes to set up as their coil is in pale, blow up days. 04:44:03.380 --> 04:44:06.380 Get something going for themselves in this river. 04:44:06.380 --> 04:44:09.380 And that means children for park if you can go and get it. 04:44:11.380 --> 04:44:15.380 If you know a little bit of space for themselves, top jungle is pretty safe. 04:44:15.380 --> 04:44:25.380 He's gone from second place down to fourth actually, even though he's had a bit of free room to maneuver. 04:44:25.380 --> 04:44:30.380 He's not been able to clear a lot of ancients this game. It's always going to slow you down a little bit. 04:44:30.380 --> 04:44:36.380 Especially compared to the TA here. That's where that extra juice is coming from. 04:44:36.380 --> 04:44:40.380 It feels like it's just non-stop go time for Navi. With his blink blade mail axe. 04:44:40.380 --> 04:44:44.300 Yes, they've got long cooldown in global and kisses, but they don't really need them 04:44:44.940 --> 04:44:50.800 I think this team is always going no matter what. I don't use the draft this team will play that they're not trying to always go with 04:44:51.300 --> 04:44:52.980 All gas no breaks 04:44:52.980 --> 04:44:54.980 Let's them shrine for WS 04:44:54.980 --> 04:44:56.980 He's going to get it and dive away 04:44:57.980 --> 04:45:02.100 As we say that they hesitate a little bit. He just ran in there guns blazing 04:45:02.540 --> 04:45:04.540 But it would have worked out 04:45:04.540 --> 04:45:07.260 We can rest the team to try and connect fast enough 04:45:07.260 --> 04:45:10.260 Steel is small, can't take that. 04:45:11.260 --> 04:45:13.260 Didn't even get it, nevermind. 04:45:13.260 --> 04:45:17.260 And now, if Nifolk did want to farm ancients, he's not really on the right-hand side. 04:45:17.260 --> 04:45:19.260 Yeah, he's stealing it from you. 04:45:19.260 --> 04:45:20.260 Fully invaded. 04:45:20.260 --> 04:45:22.260 Split push mode for Aurora here. 04:45:22.260 --> 04:45:24.260 Do not want to contest Niku. 04:45:24.260 --> 04:45:28.260 Which means he will get to Miki-V here and then he's going to be an absolute beast. 04:45:28.260 --> 04:45:30.260 He's trying to kill me. 04:45:30.260 --> 04:45:34.260 Clicking down and slowing down at full death of the warlock. 04:45:34.260 --> 04:45:42.000 Action to mean fire, though, has been coiled and sunrayed, so they move nuclear to that western side in Aurora, exploiting the opening. 04:45:42.000 --> 04:45:43.500 Ah, it's a bigger kill. 04:45:45.180 --> 04:45:47.780 Who are we thinking about going further, but this is... 04:45:47.780 --> 04:45:50.500 Cover the retreat, and even get a kill on it's life. 04:45:50.500 --> 04:45:52.000 I just can't move so slow. 04:45:53.000 --> 04:45:55.000 Silence are really ruined, spell desupport. 04:45:56.060 --> 04:45:59.000 And the Phoenix here, and the fucking Insurgory silence again. 04:45:59.500 --> 04:46:03.720 Spells are really obnoxious here, you're gonna need some decent dis-spells built up here. 04:46:04.260 --> 04:46:09.260 Extra loader squads at some point in this game. 04:46:09.260 --> 04:46:11.260 Help protect each other. 04:46:11.260 --> 04:46:15.260 Now if you have all the vision in the world just to set up for another, what, three-tap onto Kaori? 04:46:15.260 --> 04:46:16.260 Yeah, welcome back. 04:46:16.260 --> 04:46:20.260 You respawned and died again in quick succession while the punk is trying to juke away. 04:46:20.260 --> 04:46:22.260 Three report your warlock, we're broke. 04:46:24.260 --> 04:46:25.260 What are you doing? 04:46:25.260 --> 04:46:26.260 Just a food trough. 04:46:28.260 --> 04:46:29.260 Gobbled up by an RV? 04:46:29.260 --> 04:46:31.260 I've got a D-Wall, man. 04:46:31.260 --> 04:46:33.260 On the ground area. 04:46:33.260 --> 04:46:35.260 There's no way they can access this without it. 04:46:35.260 --> 04:46:38.260 They're just sitting here, base camp made. 04:46:40.260 --> 04:46:42.260 Oh, he has TP's top. 04:46:42.260 --> 04:46:43.260 What? None of that. 04:46:43.260 --> 04:46:46.260 TP's top there, he kind of just auto-conceived Roche. 04:46:46.260 --> 04:46:48.260 Too many they could do it fast enough. 04:46:48.260 --> 04:46:51.260 Maybe he assumed they wouldn't try and do it in the last 30 seconds of the slide. 04:46:51.260 --> 04:46:53.260 Look at here, but it's a PA. 04:46:53.260 --> 04:46:57.260 Exactly, they have more than enough damage to pump into this Roche on a little device armor, so... 04:46:57.260 --> 04:47:03.580 himself. That's now H-Fax on desktop. Hurricane flight delivered. BKB here, my nice stalker. 04:47:03.580 --> 04:47:06.140 Let's get scary. Lots of items coinciding. 04:47:06.140 --> 04:47:11.820 This game is getting real scary for a while. This next fight is going to be real tough if 04:47:11.820 --> 04:47:17.540 you can't pop this supernova in a good position and protect it. Again, you can negate some 04:47:17.540 --> 04:47:22.060 of the nice stalkers influence here. A lot depends on the positioning of the control 04:47:22.060 --> 04:47:25.500 of the line of the stalker. You're going to have to do some heavy lifting here with 04:47:25.500 --> 04:47:29.660 The Navi might just opt to keep farming more BKBs here. 04:47:29.660 --> 04:47:33.760 If you're a triple BKB, you can ignore Lion and Pugsfells. 04:47:33.760 --> 04:47:35.900 Egg becomes a lot less safe to drop. 04:47:35.900 --> 04:47:36.900 You can kite to Ursa. 04:47:36.900 --> 04:47:40.380 There's no more BKB control in this lineup until Vistula blade later on. 04:47:40.380 --> 04:47:41.820 You're kind of cruising in these fights. 04:47:41.820 --> 04:47:45.140 They might have to be an earlier Vistula here for Nightfall that he wants to do in this 04:47:45.140 --> 04:47:46.140 game. 04:47:46.140 --> 04:47:48.740 It's generally your best item in this Ursa Nightstalker matchup. 04:47:48.740 --> 04:47:51.340 It's your best item in protecting Egg here. 04:47:51.340 --> 04:47:55.660 See if he rushes it, he has eye on the basher. 04:47:55.660 --> 04:47:56.660 Then he's skipping DKB, right? 04:47:56.660 --> 04:47:59.660 So there's a downside to all of it here. 04:47:59.660 --> 04:48:03.860 Just no real good options for a role other than we just want to farm a lot, because yeah, 04:48:03.860 --> 04:48:07.340 if you get a lot of items in this game, you can kind of counteract some of the hero points 04:48:07.340 --> 04:48:08.340 in here. 04:48:08.340 --> 04:48:11.340 Yeah, may just get another freebie. 04:48:11.340 --> 04:48:12.340 4K already. 04:48:12.340 --> 04:48:14.340 Trying to do what he can on the map. 04:48:14.340 --> 04:48:15.340 Down. 04:48:15.340 --> 04:48:16.340 D-Wall. 04:48:16.340 --> 04:48:17.340 Chop. 04:48:17.340 --> 04:48:18.340 Trying to push lanes where you can. 04:48:18.340 --> 04:48:21.220 The block is not the most efficient spell push support. 04:48:21.220 --> 04:48:22.220 No. 04:48:22.220 --> 04:48:24.220 It's... it's pretty tough. 04:48:26.540 --> 04:48:27.540 That's bad. 04:48:27.540 --> 04:48:29.180 Having to drop golems on the waves. 04:48:29.180 --> 04:48:31.180 Maybe. We might get to that point. 04:48:31.180 --> 04:48:33.180 Put the facial bombs on them and kill them. 04:48:33.900 --> 04:48:38.300 There's also this real threat and fear of the way the Axe can play these teamfights. 04:48:38.300 --> 04:48:40.780 Getting in and out and having multiple rounds of calls. 04:48:40.780 --> 04:48:44.340 Especially when PMA, you know, it's a first pick Axe and being kind of quiet, 04:48:44.340 --> 04:48:46.340 Lane wasn't tremendously good for him. 04:48:46.340 --> 04:48:51.300 So you haven't felt that axe blink call blade mail yet, especially as an Aurora core, and 04:48:51.300 --> 04:48:56.380 when it hits you the first time, they're already 6k up, that could just be a signal of the 04:48:56.380 --> 04:48:57.380 end. 04:48:57.380 --> 04:49:01.940 Especially with a big smoke move like this, they've left got the juice top, he pushes 04:49:01.940 --> 04:49:05.420 out one more wave and then trying to pivot down to the bottom lane. 04:49:05.420 --> 04:49:09.140 Nice man moving here, outmaneuvering Aurora right now. 04:49:09.140 --> 04:49:13.420 It's gonna force Aurora back into their high ground, we're not gonna be awaiting, this 04:49:13.420 --> 04:49:15.420 This is a fight T.A. can connect to. 04:49:16.420 --> 04:49:18.420 Don't I scan this so they know they're in the vicinity? 04:49:18.420 --> 04:49:20.420 But Axe is gonna break smoke. 04:49:20.420 --> 04:49:24.420 First point of contact is Lyon getting obliterated by this BKB Night Stalker. 04:49:24.420 --> 04:49:26.420 Parking in the meantime did get called. 04:49:26.420 --> 04:49:27.420 Caught it up and changed the gun. 04:49:27.420 --> 04:49:29.420 McConaugher disappears. 04:49:29.420 --> 04:49:30.420 Aurora. 04:49:30.420 --> 04:49:33.420 Scatter the win now. Back to your high ground. 04:49:33.420 --> 04:49:35.420 That was a fight without the T.A. even. 04:49:35.420 --> 04:49:37.420 Niko's gonna go in here. 04:49:38.420 --> 04:49:40.420 There's no way he's gonna go in. 04:49:40.420 --> 04:49:41.420 Go on Niko. 04:49:41.420 --> 04:49:42.420 He's got near damage. 04:49:42.420 --> 04:49:44.420 What'd you say? 04:49:44.420 --> 04:49:46.420 A little Jimmy down the well. 04:49:46.420 --> 04:49:48.420 A little Jimmy down the well? 04:49:48.420 --> 04:49:49.420 What's that for? 04:49:49.420 --> 04:49:50.420 Is that some English thing? 04:49:50.420 --> 04:49:52.420 That's Lassie, isn't it? 04:49:52.420 --> 04:49:53.420 What? 04:49:53.420 --> 04:49:54.420 Lassie! 04:49:54.420 --> 04:49:55.420 Go and find him! 04:49:55.420 --> 04:49:58.420 Oh, the movie. 04:49:58.420 --> 04:50:01.420 That was a deep floor reference right there. 04:50:01.420 --> 04:50:02.420 Got the juice. 04:50:02.420 --> 04:50:03.420 Easy tier two. 04:50:03.420 --> 04:50:05.420 Oh, hello. There's the golem. 04:50:05.420 --> 04:50:06.420 See ya. 04:50:06.420 --> 04:50:08.420 So Niko didn't go in and then turned data. 04:50:08.420 --> 04:50:09.420 Should've gone in. 04:50:09.420 --> 04:50:11.420 That's a little result of that. 04:50:11.420 --> 04:50:13.420 Sometimes the restraint kills you. 04:50:14.420 --> 04:50:16.420 Nice, also me feeling bold. 04:50:16.420 --> 04:50:19.420 Pushing down this bottom lane with the rest of the team connecting. 04:50:19.420 --> 04:50:20.420 Daytime. 04:50:20.420 --> 04:50:22.420 Time to do something in this game. 04:50:22.420 --> 04:50:24.420 I've got a hex to start. 04:50:24.420 --> 04:50:26.420 Chainsaw on this Templar assassin. 04:50:26.420 --> 04:50:30.420 She's got Cookie, Force, Pike, and still holds the Aegis. 04:50:30.420 --> 04:50:32.420 VKV getting delivered as well. 04:50:32.420 --> 04:50:35.420 Very difficult target to bring down once, nevermind twice. 04:50:35.420 --> 04:50:37.420 They'll get the Aegis at least. 04:50:37.420 --> 04:50:39.420 I don't have a looking... 04:50:39.420 --> 04:50:41.700 And now V getting in with a call, 04:50:41.700 --> 04:50:43.860 Dodge does come down, doesn't get called up, 04:50:43.860 --> 04:50:46.180 and the turnaround from Aurora on the TA, 04:50:46.180 --> 04:50:48.860 Refraction BKB close snap and gone. 04:50:48.860 --> 04:50:50.140 I asked the next short work of her, 04:50:50.140 --> 04:50:52.940 while PMA gets turned on and focused as well. 04:50:52.940 --> 04:50:54.280 Stick timing from WS. 04:50:56.420 --> 04:50:58.620 Maybe he just got lucky, but it kinda looked like 04:50:58.620 --> 04:50:59.980 he expected that call coming in, 04:50:59.980 --> 04:51:02.340 just dropped it a little early there. 04:51:02.340 --> 04:51:03.500 That makes all the difference. 04:51:03.500 --> 04:51:04.900 If he gets called TA BKBs, 04:51:04.900 --> 04:51:07.460 they might be able to burst that Phoenix down. 04:51:07.460 --> 04:51:08.300 Stick timing from him, 04:51:08.300 --> 04:51:11.560 There was no BKB on the axe there either just an awkward fight for Navi to take 04:51:11.780 --> 04:51:17.060 Those are the kind of fights when I look at this team that I feel they have to be a bit more disciplined about I think you just get out here 04:51:17.540 --> 04:51:19.540 Don't have your night stalker 04:51:19.900 --> 04:51:25.380 You know your TA is gonna resplot into an awkward position if you let the first death go down you just don't have your axe BKB 04:51:26.100 --> 04:51:27.580 You don't have global here 04:51:27.580 --> 04:51:32.620 You're missing a lot that has done a lot of work for you this game and you can look at this fight and go 04:51:32.620 --> 04:51:36.780 Yeah, okay, if we get some mature dream and act all agnostic often winning, but I think that's my kind of fight 04:51:36.780 --> 04:51:41.260 it's just lower-ward high-risk. What are you even fighting for here, right? 04:51:41.260 --> 04:51:44.660 You're not fighting for map control because you're on your side of the map. 04:51:44.660 --> 04:51:46.700 Yeah, there's no roach, no towers. 04:51:46.700 --> 04:51:49.460 I think that's the kind of thing this young squad needs to get a little more 04:51:49.460 --> 04:51:53.340 disappointed about is calling when to say, hey, there's points this game and 04:51:53.340 --> 04:51:56.220 there's a lot of them where we can be hyper-aggressive. That was not one of them. 04:51:56.220 --> 04:52:00.380 Especially with them using what, triple-four staff, whatever it was, all of those 04:52:00.380 --> 04:52:02.860 escape tools in the TA were already spent so they didn't have any more 04:52:02.860 --> 04:52:04.860 Disengaged little chase anyway. 04:52:05.740 --> 04:52:08.460 Niku's gonna come out with the Ascension though and slide down the wall lock. 04:52:09.340 --> 04:52:11.340 Straight back to work here. 04:52:12.780 --> 04:52:18.300 We're on the map. More time for TA to farm. You do have triple BKB out on the map right now across your cores, so 04:52:19.180 --> 04:52:22.060 You should be happy to take any fight where that cooldown is available. 04:52:23.500 --> 04:52:29.340 And now it's just about Aurora getting to their own BKBs probably so they can dispel some of these silences and 04:52:29.340 --> 04:52:32.060 and man fight the night stalker. 04:52:32.060 --> 04:52:33.860 Totes Carter, dying a gate? 04:52:33.860 --> 04:52:35.460 Yeah, okay. 04:52:35.460 --> 04:52:36.820 Pull a little baby Roshan. 04:52:38.740 --> 04:52:40.580 Get through the door. 04:52:40.580 --> 04:52:42.460 There's the Agonim Shard. 04:52:42.460 --> 04:52:44.300 Down the drain for a couple of minutes. 04:52:47.740 --> 04:52:48.580 During this night time, 04:52:48.580 --> 04:52:50.540 you could have expected them to go and play forward, 04:52:50.540 --> 04:52:52.340 but they're sitting back a little bit. 04:52:53.940 --> 04:52:55.980 Trying to regroup after pushing the lanes. 04:52:55.980 --> 04:52:58.960 I'm enjoying forces down with mid. 04:52:58.960 --> 04:53:01.320 So they're good options of where they want to move to. 04:53:01.320 --> 04:53:02.820 I don't know where's Fetchin. 04:53:02.820 --> 04:53:04.320 I don't even know where Warlock is. 04:53:04.320 --> 04:53:06.640 He just put the fatal bombs on the hut. 04:53:06.640 --> 04:53:08.580 So Stealth Eul's has a flank. 04:53:08.580 --> 04:53:10.040 Warlock down low. 04:53:10.040 --> 04:53:12.380 They've got in onto this nice door cover of the P.A. 04:53:12.380 --> 04:53:13.680 Coldblade mail. 04:53:13.680 --> 04:53:16.380 Culls the Ursa and now the chase is on. 04:53:16.380 --> 04:53:18.540 Aurora have to get the hell out of here. 04:53:18.540 --> 04:53:20.280 TP from the Phoenix, successful. 04:53:20.280 --> 04:53:22.340 Warlock, nah, not the same luxury. 04:53:22.340 --> 04:53:23.620 He's gonna get dunked. 04:53:23.620 --> 04:53:26.460 Well, Nightstalker, he's hot on the tail of the puck. 04:53:26.460 --> 04:53:29.340 And the character is going to all be a little further away, 04:53:29.340 --> 04:53:34.180 but there's Temporal Assassin quickly shifting into fifth gear, chasing forward. 04:53:34.180 --> 04:53:38.500 There's another orb, Eul's and Blank in a couple of seconds. 04:53:38.500 --> 04:53:42.420 So, Eul's up the Nightstalker, Cole comes in though, and down goes the puck now. 04:53:42.420 --> 04:53:47.100 He could not afford to die there with a newly purchased gem to try and get rid of these traps. 04:53:47.100 --> 04:53:48.820 They've not noticed it though, right? 04:53:48.820 --> 04:53:50.420 They actually didn't see it, okay. 04:53:50.420 --> 04:53:51.860 Maybe get back here. 04:53:52.740 --> 04:53:54.660 PMA still doesn't see it. 04:53:54.660 --> 04:53:56.460 It's falling to the bottom of the marionet trench. 04:53:56.460 --> 04:53:59.760 If I got to try and recover it off Courier, it would be a big recovery. 04:54:00.460 --> 04:54:02.160 I don't know, Phoenix. He's falling to the top. 04:54:02.760 --> 04:54:05.660 I'll see God. He can't act, but he's probably just dead anyway. 04:54:09.060 --> 04:54:11.860 Map's becoming rough to play, and they did not get that gem back. 04:54:11.860 --> 04:54:14.160 Got picked up and spotted by PMA in the end. 04:54:15.260 --> 04:54:17.960 Such a big death in terms of your map control here, and... 04:54:17.960 --> 04:54:21.060 What a call on that Earthside. I think Nightbotch didn't want to tumbled. 04:54:21.060 --> 04:54:24.640 Maybe he just doesn't think that Axe is going to call him like that so quickly. 04:54:24.640 --> 04:54:31.640 Just pull the trigger, but you don't have BKB on Ursula, so if you don't pop hold, you can just get a hundred to zero. 04:54:32.960 --> 04:54:34.960 There's no wiggle room at all. 04:54:36.240 --> 04:54:38.240 Now you're losing that last outer tower. 04:54:39.440 --> 04:54:44.940 Tired map, but once the Navey, trying to play out these two lanes, went through top. 04:54:44.940 --> 04:54:50.940 still no great chance to go high ground or anything but aurora have such a limited 04:54:50.940 --> 04:54:54.940 amount of space to actually play with they are in full defense mode they still see 04:54:54.940 --> 04:54:59.980 anything at least nothing useful one board in the bottom of the bottom part of 04:54:59.980 --> 04:55:06.020 man not doing a lot not really doesn't even see the croakers man we've got two 04:55:06.020 --> 04:55:10.380 minutes to wait until next gross a lot of time to consider options and think 04:55:10.380 --> 04:55:12.980 about how they want to approach potentially big it's gonna ship this 04:55:12.980 --> 04:55:14.980 This is just a rush to daytime so far. 04:55:14.980 --> 04:55:16.980 Which is really nice for a horror hero. 04:55:16.980 --> 04:55:20.980 You probably still have a Dark Ascension, but at least it's something you've kind of played for in a round. 04:55:20.980 --> 04:55:22.980 You might have the Ursa BKB by then. 04:55:22.980 --> 04:55:24.980 Well, I think that is a must contest objective here. 04:55:24.980 --> 04:55:26.980 You need to take this Aegis away from Navi. 04:55:28.980 --> 04:55:29.980 You don't have a chance this game. 04:55:29.980 --> 04:55:30.980 The whole fire already done for Niku. 04:55:30.980 --> 04:55:32.980 That is the one good thing about this Nightstalker. 04:55:32.980 --> 04:55:33.980 We were discussing the Midas. 04:55:33.980 --> 04:55:35.980 Why is it kind of eyeballing this hero? 04:55:35.980 --> 04:55:36.980 This hero just... 04:55:36.980 --> 04:55:37.980 It's about Ascension. 04:55:37.980 --> 04:55:38.980 It's about his kit. 04:55:38.980 --> 04:55:39.980 You're picking this hero for the spells. 04:55:39.980 --> 04:55:41.980 He's not a very item-dependent hero in the sense of... 04:55:42.980 --> 04:55:46.620 He's a beast without items, as long as you have BKB, you can go in and hit people. 04:55:46.620 --> 04:55:51.780 Kind of doing 90% of what the hero does, which gives you some freedom to buy other stuff a little faster. 04:55:51.780 --> 04:55:54.580 This is one of the best nullifier heroes in the game. 04:55:54.580 --> 04:55:58.100 He's not really the best Flash Farmer either, right? He's not really far stacks or anything like that. 04:55:58.100 --> 04:56:03.380 So when he is out on the map, waiting in the trees and hunting, he needs something to... 04:56:03.380 --> 04:56:06.140 Lift him up a little bit. 04:56:06.140 --> 04:56:08.500 Actually, he's finally going to get his BKB. 04:56:08.500 --> 04:56:10.900 So some silver linings here for Aurora. 04:56:10.900 --> 04:56:18.300 This is also why there's a solid argument that you should go BKB on the pocket in these types of games as opposed to, or as opposed to four staffs' jewels, 04:56:18.300 --> 04:56:22.300 because if this nice stalker is eventually going to go with an old-fire build, then you're just completely dead. 04:56:23.700 --> 04:56:25.800 And Makoto, he gets caught by this, he's gone. 04:56:26.200 --> 04:56:32.300 Aurora knows that they can't see that, and wait, they've got to make a move of the road, the global gives that cover for the last stalker to get out of there. 04:56:32.500 --> 04:56:33.800 Sunray's burning him. 04:56:34.300 --> 04:56:37.200 Niko gets a weapon. Oil! Oil! Makoto doesn't land it! 04:56:37.200 --> 04:56:45.200 So that's BKB out of the Phoenix, spells spent, stealth jewels now from the park and a dumpster from Niko. 04:56:45.200 --> 04:56:54.200 I don't know, but the knife's still gonna be shredded. I turn on him, egg use dust, the puck will fall, axe now gone, and I'll be the one to lose two calls. 04:56:54.200 --> 04:56:58.200 Okay, interesting. A jewels bait, I guess. 04:56:58.200 --> 04:57:01.200 I'm sure he meant that. 04:57:01.200 --> 04:57:04.200 Did Niko really have nothing to go steal off of or anything? 04:57:04.200 --> 04:57:05.200 He didn't have a creep time. 04:57:05.200 --> 04:57:07.200 He jumped back in there with basically no HP. 04:57:07.200 --> 04:57:09.200 And now Roshan's respawning. 04:57:09.200 --> 04:57:13.200 It's that daytime spawn that could be huge for Aurora. 04:57:13.200 --> 04:57:16.200 If they see it, they should be checking this pit right now. 04:57:16.200 --> 04:57:18.200 They're being a little lazy on the map. 04:57:18.200 --> 04:57:22.200 You have a daytime Rosh, no night stalker, two cores off the map for Navi. 04:57:22.200 --> 04:57:26.200 You're not checking Rosh instantly. 04:57:26.200 --> 04:57:32.680 Maybe the TA is strong enough to contest that on her own, but I think you still have to at least threaten the idea here 04:57:35.880 --> 04:57:37.880 Maybe they call this without the puck I don't want to go 04:57:38.920 --> 04:57:44.920 I feel like a buyback. You're just missing egg. You're missing your VTVs. I kind of get it. I think TA does with his fight 04:57:47.560 --> 04:57:52.720 You never know though like you could have ended up a position where you scout this erosion for some reason TA TV's bottom, you know 04:57:56.200 --> 04:57:59.560 Butterfly is looking real good on God to juice right now 04:58:01.240 --> 04:58:05.560 That's more pressure on life falls itemization here. You know, he feels pressure to get a fast abyssal scheme 04:58:05.560 --> 04:58:07.840 He needs to be to be in this game now. I need to empty be in this game 04:58:07.840 --> 04:58:13.480 They're all great items on her so buddies really under the gun here to make it work in the fight never ending shopping list 04:58:15.560 --> 04:58:17.560 When will it end? 04:58:19.400 --> 04:58:21.760 And they're under radiant vision this whole time as well 04:58:21.760 --> 04:58:27.760 Na'Vi knows exactly what's going on. Both die to the Force and wandered out a little on their own. 04:58:27.760 --> 04:58:30.760 See what this Na'Vi's smoke connects onto. 04:58:30.760 --> 04:58:35.760 They have everything available again, so Rort didn't really get a lot of downtime other than some time before. 04:58:35.760 --> 04:58:37.760 You are about to get dark as hell. 04:58:37.760 --> 04:58:43.760 Straight on the Ursa. They've got backup here with Warlock and Lion, but the Global just makes sure they can't cast any spells. 04:58:43.760 --> 04:58:47.760 BKB and Rage spent for the Kisses. Look at that damage with Niku coming up the chop. 04:58:47.760 --> 04:58:51.600 coming up the chop. They forced them all back but no one dropped just yet. Ursa is 04:58:51.600 --> 04:58:55.520 going to get munched on now by Nekr's nuts. Cook him forward and kill him off, then focus 04:58:55.520 --> 04:59:00.160 the egg to turn and deal with WS. Two cores now down for 70 seconds with another core. 04:59:00.160 --> 04:59:04.320 They've caught out the wall. Dunking in onto Mira. Oh, down you go. 04:59:04.320 --> 04:59:09.880 Beautiful team fight from them. They know if they start on Nightfall, it's such a great 04:59:09.880 --> 04:59:12.480 fight no matter what. Cause you're just going to dump the global, you're going to dump the 04:59:12.480 --> 04:59:17.320 kisses. All of a sudden the positioning becomes really terrible for Aurora. The Ursa has to 04:59:17.320 --> 04:59:24.320 The popular BKB are both likely both early on and once he does, he has to commit and find a kill, otherwise the fight is effectively over. 04:59:26.320 --> 04:59:32.320 There's just no way to bail him out, like we saw mid the night saw her go jump there, able to bail him out with 4 stats cookie reset here. 04:59:32.320 --> 04:59:34.320 How do you bail Nightfall out of this situation? 04:59:34.320 --> 04:59:36.320 When you're global? No way. 04:59:36.320 --> 04:59:45.320 Yeah, exactly, so you're just locked in the cage and they're just gonna run at you. They're gonna knock clump, split up, isolate heroes on the back side. 04:59:45.320 --> 04:59:48.320 Just take you down. 04:59:48.320 --> 04:59:51.320 We're gonna attempt to stun and reheal them. 04:59:51.320 --> 04:59:56.320 I'm not gonna pay off them, you spent the egg, you died, just not stop from there on our. 04:59:56.320 --> 05:00:00.320 Don't get the dunk. Double kill for PMA. 05:00:00.320 --> 05:00:04.320 We still don't have enough dispels for this global reel. 05:00:04.320 --> 05:00:10.320 They technically have some, but you're using them in awkward spots. 05:00:10.320 --> 05:00:16.280 There's an A on this for the puck, but there's already a nullifier on the field, and now 05:00:16.280 --> 05:00:18.080 it just feels like you're lacking some damage. 05:00:18.080 --> 05:00:21.120 Who's actually going to do damage in this game? 05:00:21.120 --> 05:00:23.000 First, the plus base? 05:00:23.000 --> 05:00:24.920 Yeah, it's got to be spells. 05:00:24.920 --> 05:00:26.920 It means W is surviving in the fight. 05:00:26.920 --> 05:00:35.600 Phoenix can't output a lot because I have to sit there and play for Fog, and it's so 05:00:35.600 --> 05:00:37.000 difficult for him. 05:00:37.000 --> 05:00:41.560 Obviously, Aurora have to just eat their entire team in there. 05:00:41.560 --> 05:00:43.400 Like, get on the TA? 05:00:43.400 --> 05:00:50.120 Yeah, you have to just send this lion in, blink hex a big core, and the second that happens, 05:00:50.120 --> 05:00:51.560 just instantly go in. 05:00:51.560 --> 05:00:52.560 Donk Nile. 05:00:52.560 --> 05:00:56.600 Or just annihilate this first target and drag Navi into a quick fight. 05:00:56.600 --> 05:00:57.600 Well, there goes Mikoto. 05:00:57.600 --> 05:00:58.600 He gets in. 05:00:58.600 --> 05:01:02.000 He's going to get turned on quickly though, Sunray healing him, Golden Drop, but already 05:01:02.000 --> 05:01:03.000 dunked down. 05:01:03.000 --> 05:01:04.000 The damage looks good, though. 05:01:04.000 --> 05:01:06.680 The fatal pawn is spreading it around onto Neat Cure. 05:01:06.680 --> 05:01:08.880 stalker and the axe, both falling. 05:01:10.080 --> 05:01:10.580 Not bad. 05:01:11.880 --> 05:01:13.180 There's G.A. though. 05:01:13.580 --> 05:01:16.680 Got the Jews for the Cookie on Two, they stuck me in his tracks. 05:01:16.980 --> 05:01:19.180 Oh Phoenix and Arsha, where are you running boys? 05:01:19.280 --> 05:01:22.180 Into the trees, hide away, there's no picnic to be had back there. 05:01:22.180 --> 05:01:23.580 There's T.A.'s coming for you. 05:01:24.180 --> 05:01:25.480 Can WS fight this? 05:01:25.780 --> 05:01:27.580 Got to achieve his vessel part. 05:01:27.580 --> 05:01:28.780 I mean, here it doesn't age this. 05:01:30.180 --> 05:01:32.980 He's thinking about it, but then there's a jump in from the temple assassin. 05:01:33.180 --> 05:01:35.780 Arsha, wanted to get onto the snapfire, nice, you will step down, 05:01:35.780 --> 05:01:39.660 But first life already gone for this TA while the Arsler is gonna be sealed up by the Sunray 05:01:39.660 --> 05:01:43.960 He's got a bit of distance now temporal assassin pike forward jumped to the high ground with the earth shot 05:01:43.960 --> 05:01:49.060 But they've got the trap a teepee home. Oh, I got it being fogged and you can get back to fountain 05:01:49.060 --> 05:01:51.600 What a sick teepee right on that ramp? 05:01:52.340 --> 05:01:55.060 Just didn't have the vision. It was right after the trap pop 05:01:56.180 --> 05:01:58.580 Stick Duke from nightfall. What a turn from Aurora 05:01:58.580 --> 05:02:01.580 I thought they were gonna be able to turn there cuz I fooled the master of teepees 05:02:01.700 --> 05:02:04.460 He really is man, even without the bee give me he gets the job done 05:02:04.460 --> 05:02:10.780 down 20k finding a way to bring some big cores down that puck lived a very long 05:02:10.780 --> 05:02:17.220 time even under that nullifier surprisingly tanky and that's the kind 05:02:17.220 --> 05:02:21.820 of fight where there's a moral out of can come together when fixed around a 05:02:21.820 --> 05:02:25.180 set point with egg debilitating a night stalker and you can just kind of 05:02:25.180 --> 05:02:29.180 outload all the damage together you're in a very close spot don't have to chase 05:02:29.180 --> 05:02:32.340 the fight's not getting super spread out these heroes aren't kiting you on the 05:02:32.340 --> 05:02:37.260 backside someone's dying someone else getting called like you said you can't be 05:02:37.260 --> 05:02:40.780 scared right you've got to say I'm some hero in someone has to think my life is 05:02:40.780 --> 05:02:45.140 a resource I have to spend my HP pool my hero life to go and get something big 05:02:45.140 --> 05:02:55.420 how's my girls job should get nightfall to MKB here big upgrade brain does do a 05:02:55.420 --> 05:02:59.940 lot of damage you can sit there and wait on some of these big boys did I 05:02:59.940 --> 05:03:03.140 I don't see, there's five of Vice on the snap slide, how do you stop that? 05:03:04.140 --> 05:03:07.140 So Blink Hacks is there, multiple ways to approach this fight. 05:03:07.140 --> 05:03:09.640 First up is Axe, much stalker's the second layer. 05:03:09.640 --> 05:03:10.140 See ya. 05:03:10.140 --> 05:03:11.140 Yeah, the third. 05:03:13.740 --> 05:03:17.440 25 for Got the Juice already, so that Mel Bash online. 05:03:18.140 --> 05:03:23.740 Another issue to deal with, there will be a refresher for Riddus in this game for Double Global coming very quickly here. 05:03:25.540 --> 05:03:28.540 And Double Global is gonna be really difficult to deal with. 05:03:28.540 --> 05:03:34.780 Then we'll just stand out the park, so Niko, the opening on him, held back a little by the 05:03:34.780 --> 05:03:38.700 yules, but the global over the top, forces the eon disk, and it got so many ways to chain 05:03:38.700 --> 05:03:43.100 stun, but it's out of shift, and then a coil, Arosa's going to come in and get onto 05:03:43.100 --> 05:03:47.580 dais, the snap far in trouble, Navi needs a reset from the range of this game! 05:03:47.580 --> 05:03:49.580 All the way through! 05:03:49.580 --> 05:03:52.940 Hit through, into the barrier, nice look, it dives deep! 05:03:52.940 --> 05:03:55.820 My goodness, Navi, just get on top of them! 05:03:55.820 --> 05:04:02.340 That was nasty. The angle there from God that you're in that corridor, very well 05:04:02.340 --> 05:04:05.620 kited from Navi. They did not overextend into this egg. You get minimal 05:04:05.620 --> 05:04:10.020 value out of it and then you just turn slice them up. Every time this night 05:04:10.020 --> 05:04:13.740 Fall Ursa was out of BKB, he also feels like the fight is done. He did not get 05:04:13.740 --> 05:04:16.220 enough done with it. He spent the whole time trying to kill this Jules-Dove 05:04:16.220 --> 05:04:20.180 Sapphire. It's not even a priority target in this field. 05:04:20.180 --> 05:04:22.180 Why are you looking at two lanes of barracks? 05:04:23.180 --> 05:04:26.180 Makoto trying to spot this with a couple of buybacks. 05:04:26.180 --> 05:04:29.180 TA just there, BKB, Makoto's gone! 05:04:29.180 --> 05:04:35.180 Does have a buyback himself, he's probably going to have to spend it here as the template staff is running rough shot OBS support in the backlines. 05:04:35.180 --> 05:04:44.180 Phoenix can then click down, but now Narvi have to respect the four man return of Aurora because the jump in from Mira has caught out and got the juice. 05:04:44.180 --> 05:04:46.180 Four buys for that TA. 05:04:46.180 --> 05:04:48.180 He probably needed all of them here. 05:04:48.180 --> 05:04:55.140 an expensive kill to save the least you got him though big streak got all that 05:04:55.140 --> 05:04:58.500 street code WS so that's actually pretty big extra thousand gold for that Phoenix 05:04:58.500 --> 05:05:03.140 I spent money it's null fires just so stupid with global stocks on top it's 05:05:03.140 --> 05:05:08.260 so hard to get out of these situations got the juice he's got the angle 05:05:08.260 --> 05:05:11.260 You leave your snap fly, but ho ho ho ho! 05:05:11.260 --> 05:05:14.260 Look at that wall lock disappear! 05:05:14.260 --> 05:05:16.260 Disgusting. 05:05:17.260 --> 05:05:19.260 So nice playing with these Rulers at the front as well. 05:05:19.260 --> 05:05:21.260 Niku, can you see me? 05:05:21.260 --> 05:05:23.260 Just run to the left. 05:05:23.260 --> 05:05:26.260 I just don't want to sit there and really man fight. 05:05:26.260 --> 05:05:30.260 Your biggest answer in this draft was supposed to be that egg turning its daytime. 05:05:30.260 --> 05:05:32.260 Letting Ursa go in. 05:05:33.260 --> 05:05:36.260 Everybody else is pretty squishy here. 05:05:36.260 --> 05:05:42.780 An extended period without TA though, so Aurora can actually get out on the map across the 05:05:42.780 --> 05:05:43.780 river. 05:05:43.780 --> 05:05:45.880 Navi really nestled in their base though. 05:05:45.880 --> 05:05:49.060 This is super disciplined, don't give anything away while the TA is dead. 05:05:49.060 --> 05:05:52.860 I honestly don't mind this, you're up 30k, there's no roast to grab. 05:05:52.860 --> 05:05:55.860 The best case scenario is you're gonna get another thousand gold in this time. 05:05:55.860 --> 05:06:02.060 Worst case scenario is you're gonna start chain feeding and throw a lot away at them. 05:06:02.060 --> 05:06:04.620 Why not just give a little bit of the map for a minute, wait till your TA is up and 05:06:04.620 --> 05:06:06.620 that make them move out on the map. 05:06:06.620 --> 05:06:10.460 Still have some night time to play with, still have Dark Ascension, you have full AC on this 05:06:10.460 --> 05:06:14.300 Night Soccer pushing towards that level 25, really nice talent right here. 05:06:14.300 --> 05:06:17.820 And you have your Refresher Silence are coming back up as well, so double global available 05:06:17.820 --> 05:06:20.700 in 20, that is such a debilitator for this lineup. 05:06:20.700 --> 05:06:24.940 Just too much for Makoto to deal with, I think if it was any one thing, you can kind of see 05:06:24.940 --> 05:06:29.260 how he's playing his way out of some of this stuff, but all together. 05:06:29.260 --> 05:06:34.140 It's like you're throwing the whole kitchen sink at him and then there's another sink. 05:06:34.140 --> 05:06:37.740 And then a brick wall, and then a wall, and then the whole house collapses on it. 05:06:37.740 --> 05:06:38.740 She's like, come on! 05:06:40.040 --> 05:06:43.340 Then there was a hornet nest up in the roof, and there's like all sorts of shit. 05:06:43.340 --> 05:06:45.240 Yeah, there's another hornet nest in this thing too. 05:06:45.240 --> 05:06:46.740 Yeah, of course there is. 05:06:47.040 --> 05:06:50.140 This is why I'd rather just see them go BKB into maybe some more scale, 05:06:50.140 --> 05:06:54.140 because I think if you start buying these small, like, you gotta go ULs, you gotta go A on this. 05:06:55.240 --> 05:06:57.140 They're not really doing anything together. 05:06:57.140 --> 05:06:59.640 They're both getting nullified, they're both getting global. 05:07:00.140 --> 05:07:01.240 Can't buy one item. 05:07:01.240 --> 05:07:04.060 It just doesn't feel like it's saving him and it's not letting him have impact on the game, 05:07:04.060 --> 05:07:06.240 and it's the point you're going to have to have impact on the game. 05:07:07.400 --> 05:07:09.000 That's a good jumpstrap for WS. 05:07:09.000 --> 05:07:13.160 He got off his BKB, and they've got a global to counteract that now as well. 05:07:13.160 --> 05:07:15.700 He's a good damage though, where's the TA? 05:07:15.700 --> 05:07:18.400 They're trying to join in here with another cookie, and they finally get it done, 05:07:18.400 --> 05:07:20.300 and he's gone for the better part of two minutes. 05:07:20.300 --> 05:07:20.800 Yep. 05:07:20.800 --> 05:07:24.760 So Niko's going to take down the line, and a two-back call for PMA as well. 05:07:24.760 --> 05:07:25.940 Oh, he's done it to them. 05:07:25.940 --> 05:07:27.360 Fires the Warlock and the Puck. 05:07:27.360 --> 05:07:28.760 They're going to want the Puck. 05:07:28.760 --> 05:07:30.560 They've got to try and kill someone else though. 05:07:30.560 --> 05:07:34.060 McCutcher is broken free. K-Wree will not be surviving. 05:07:34.060 --> 05:07:35.560 And another Yule Scepter. 05:07:35.560 --> 05:07:36.900 I think he'll stuns. 05:07:36.900 --> 05:07:40.560 McCutcher, you slip-ray, but I don't know if you can weasel yourself out of this when... 05:07:40.560 --> 05:07:42.060 ...the Chief is chasing? 05:07:42.060 --> 05:07:43.060 No, he's fine. 05:07:43.060 --> 05:07:46.060 I don't even care about this fuck-holster. That's the sad part. 05:07:46.860 --> 05:07:48.460 You always do a good killing on fuck, but... 05:07:48.460 --> 05:07:50.260 He has a 20 damage. He's not dying. 05:07:50.260 --> 05:07:52.360 No, I don't. Who cares? Is that good? 05:07:52.360 --> 05:07:53.760 Probably get the wool on there. 05:07:53.760 --> 05:07:54.960 Captain release. 05:07:54.960 --> 05:07:58.060 Exactly. Looks like someone else put the line in secret from here. 05:08:00.560 --> 05:08:02.560 Now looking at mega creeps, momentarily. 05:08:06.060 --> 05:08:07.560 You know, buybacks on Aurora. 05:08:07.560 --> 05:08:08.060 Nope. 05:08:08.760 --> 05:08:09.760 Probably the game here. 05:08:10.660 --> 05:08:12.560 You get one more fight with like a solid egg. 05:08:13.160 --> 05:08:14.860 Without the buybacks, just impossible. 05:08:14.860 --> 05:08:15.360 Yeah. 05:08:15.660 --> 05:08:17.460 I should just watch them the game at this point. 05:08:17.460 --> 05:08:18.960 I'm Venice. Absolutely Venice. 05:08:18.960 --> 05:08:21.460 A minute for Phoenix and Warlock. Gigi called. There it is. 05:08:21.560 --> 05:08:22.360 They realized. 05:08:24.360 --> 05:08:25.560 Now Chas is right back. 05:08:25.560 --> 05:08:28.660 Navi looking very good in this game one with that. 05:08:28.660 --> 05:08:32.460 Traitor of heroes against the puck! Seems like a good answer, overall. 05:08:32.460 --> 05:08:35.460 They gave the puck and they just made his life a living hell. 05:08:35.460 --> 05:08:37.360 And they just completely removed him from the game. 05:08:37.360 --> 05:08:40.760 And if you're going to remove a hero from the game, you have a pretty good shot to always win the 5-4. 05:08:40.760 --> 05:08:42.760 It's not too hard. 05:08:42.760 --> 05:08:44.760 I did like how Neeko played this. Nice soccer. 05:08:44.760 --> 05:08:46.460 I think he was pretty disciplined for most of the time. 05:08:46.460 --> 05:08:47.960 He never really took bad fights. 05:08:47.960 --> 05:08:52.460 We saw a couple jumps on this hero that didn't work out because the Earthquake can counterplay you like that mid-fight. 05:08:52.460 --> 05:08:57.460 But whatever. I'd rather see you play a little over-aggressive than a little over-passive. 05:08:57.460 --> 05:08:58.580 With a hero like that? 05:08:58.580 --> 05:09:01.420 Yeah, for him as a player and I here like this, and it'll generally work out. 05:09:01.420 --> 05:09:04.900 I mean, this was a very classic Navi style. 05:09:05.900 --> 05:09:09.100 You know, if you watch these teams with no names of it, you have pretty good shot 05:09:09.100 --> 05:09:11.620 betting like that, that's probably Navi with these heroes. 05:09:11.620 --> 05:09:13.900 How they're playing, there's not a lot of other teams are going to play a style 05:09:13.900 --> 05:09:15.740 of draft like this in that function. 05:09:15.740 --> 05:09:20.260 So those reaping five man moves to take ancients like just constant skirmishing, 05:09:20.260 --> 05:09:24.460 always looking for easy support kills, ramping up this tricorps. 05:09:24.460 --> 05:09:25.700 It's just going to be a medicine. 05:09:25.700 --> 05:09:30.100 A late game, super annoying supports, very low cooldowns on average, maybe that's what it means. 05:09:30.600 --> 05:09:36.100 Nightstalker can be a long cooldown hero sometimes, but Aurora would not be able to abuse that long cooldown, so that was a big factor. 05:09:36.100 --> 05:09:42.700 And then they abused his PMA axe as well, started out at 2 and 4, coming out of lane stage, ended up at 13-8, having a spectacular time. 05:09:42.700 --> 05:09:44.700 There we have it, Navi taking game number one. 05:09:46.800 --> 05:09:53.200 That's the kind of confidence you need if you're going to be picking a somewhat off-chilter hero as your very first base pick. 05:09:53.200 --> 05:09:58.480 Navi were going to beat their own drum for a lot of their draft. 05:09:58.480 --> 05:10:01.200 And there were question marks, whether it was feet or not, but 05:10:01.200 --> 05:10:05.600 Lacoste, I think they proved that when they're in their zone, they're very comfortable. 05:10:05.600 --> 05:10:09.760 Yeah, they are. I wouldn't call this 100% being in the zone, 05:10:09.760 --> 05:10:13.840 because a lot of the times you would feel like they do two, three good moves, 05:10:13.840 --> 05:10:15.440 then they do one really bad move. 05:10:15.440 --> 05:10:18.160 But what if I am not including Niku there? 05:10:18.160 --> 05:10:20.800 Okay, then, they're not in the zone. 05:10:20.800 --> 05:10:23.300 And they're locked in completely, me too. 05:10:23.300 --> 05:10:26.400 He was trying his hardest, okay, to give them... 05:10:26.400 --> 05:10:30.300 Look, the game looks slightly more competitive, but... 05:10:30.300 --> 05:10:35.200 I gotta say, I think this game was pretty much over after seeing the draft. 05:10:35.200 --> 05:10:37.600 It was definitely quite hard for Aurora. 05:10:37.600 --> 05:10:41.800 It's also, there's a little bit of disrespect in a way, or they had a better plan, 05:10:41.800 --> 05:10:43.900 which I feel like didn't turn out to be the case. 05:10:43.900 --> 05:10:48.200 Like, you saw them have this exact same double pick early in the tournament, against the puck. 05:10:48.200 --> 05:10:51.880 And then their follow-up response is to pick Ursa into it, which I don't really love. 05:10:51.880 --> 05:10:54.960 Then I think they got skill-checked because you last picked Phoenix, 05:10:54.960 --> 05:10:58.080 who gets Thumstered in the lane, which he should not against a T8. 05:10:58.080 --> 05:11:01.200 And then you went top early to fight into a Nite Sucker who's diving, 05:11:01.200 --> 05:11:05.000 which is also something you don't want to do into NS, because he's very good at collapsing. 05:11:05.000 --> 05:11:06.800 So, suck it. 05:11:06.800 --> 05:11:08.040 Take the L. 05:11:08.040 --> 05:11:10.840 Yeah, I honestly think they got all drafted they played. 05:11:10.840 --> 05:11:13.720 This is a very bad look from Aurora, genuinely. 05:11:13.720 --> 05:11:16.880 I think the last picking Phoenix, they're so bizarre to me. 05:11:16.880 --> 05:11:20.300 And honestly, like you mentioned it, I think the worst pick in their draft is the Ursa. 05:11:20.300 --> 05:11:23.700 I think Ursa is so bad against Nightstalker, it's so bad against Silencer, 05:11:23.700 --> 05:11:26.260 and it's bad against the idea of the draft. 05:11:26.260 --> 05:11:27.820 It's about jumping you, it's about vision. 05:11:27.820 --> 05:11:31.180 Ursa hates getting jumped, and he hates playing in stuff that gives vision all the time, 05:11:31.180 --> 05:11:33.100 because that hero needs to start fights. 05:11:33.100 --> 05:11:35.460 He's not some stand-in hit guy, he bursts you. 05:11:35.460 --> 05:11:37.700 Like we talked about, he plays all of the Aegis' stuff. 05:11:37.700 --> 05:11:41.660 I think it doesn't make any sense, and they completely shoot themselves in the foot here, 05:11:41.660 --> 05:11:43.460 and I think Nightfall got sidetracked by like, 05:11:43.460 --> 05:11:45.460 Me, the axe, me counter lane. 05:11:45.460 --> 05:11:47.460 Like, can you even really win the lane? 05:11:47.460 --> 05:11:51.460 Either that or maybe they were thinking it was a denial pick, because I do think that 05:11:51.460 --> 05:11:55.460 Na'Vi does like comboing their axe with a got-the-juice Ursa. 05:11:55.460 --> 05:11:59.460 But that's just so far down the line that like, why bother that early on? 05:11:59.460 --> 05:12:03.460 Because in contrast, got-the-juice did exceptionally well on the Templars fast. 05:12:03.460 --> 05:12:07.460 It is a comfort hero for him, and he proved it this game for sure. 05:12:07.460 --> 05:12:10.460 This guy slaps on TA, and it's very good against the Ursa. 05:12:10.460 --> 05:12:17.140 GTJ TA look at this like this guy is just he's the king on this year. Do we have the the perfect meld 05:12:18.060 --> 05:12:24.900 Going through and bashing past the supernova into the defender gate or whatever because that was like 05:12:25.460 --> 05:12:28.540 Angley perfect. This is the one. Yeah, this this was sick 05:12:29.580 --> 05:12:34.400 And these TMP players they live for these look at him Watson was always tree when he wanted this 05:12:34.400 --> 05:12:39.880 He's already breaking out the protractor right now. He's calculating it. He dreamcloyal stunned. I'm gonna stand 05:12:40.460 --> 05:12:41.460 Oh, actually, never mind. He was just... 05:12:41.460 --> 05:12:42.460 My God! 05:12:42.460 --> 05:12:44.460 What a beauty. 05:12:44.460 --> 05:12:45.460 That feels... 05:12:45.460 --> 05:12:48.460 That's peak. That's peak Dota. That's why that game is so good. 05:12:48.460 --> 05:12:53.460 That's how he started, like, getting the first blood off of the creeps, getting the Phoenix as well. 05:12:53.460 --> 05:12:56.460 Like, you can tell he is TA player as well. 05:12:56.460 --> 05:13:06.460 And, like, I think seven, eight minutes in, there was also a rotation in the mid lane where four, maybe even five players from Aurora try to gank on the Night Stalker with the coil. 05:13:06.460 --> 05:13:12.100 We wasn't even close, like this is something that you see, you know, in some of these reviews that you're doing 05:13:12.500 --> 05:13:15.500 that they get banned in Dota, whatever it's called, and 05:13:16.020 --> 05:13:20.140 it's just weird. The Overwatch cases, exactly, should we report 05:13:20.980 --> 05:13:26.660 probably three of them because they were not in the right spot or Koil was used to early, because this is just not a kill 05:13:26.660 --> 05:13:31.220 that they were supposed to get in the first place. And me after seeing Aurora play Dota, 05:13:31.220 --> 05:13:36.460 Have ever since that boom broke them in Balakia finals. They just don't look like the same team 05:13:36.500 --> 05:13:41.020 Maybe they were thinking what Quinn was thinking earlier, which now I want to reassessment 05:13:41.020 --> 05:13:43.240 Do you still consider Nightstalker meant to be fake? 05:13:43.980 --> 05:13:47.220 It's definitely more real than I thought I honestly hadn't I didn't seen it 05:13:47.220 --> 05:13:52.300 Like I didn't really watch it in detail since they changed the the steel or like the thing where you eat creeps at level one 05:13:52.300 --> 05:13:55.620 I'm like first night time night time. That's honestly a really big deal and 05:13:55.620 --> 05:13:59.540 and allows you to actually have an economy, which normally Syros does not, 05:13:59.540 --> 05:14:03.300 kind of just dodge you and farm, and then eventually you fall off a cliff, like this helps that song. 05:14:03.300 --> 05:14:08.100 I still think it's like playable. I think the bad part is the silencer in tandem. I think that 05:14:08.100 --> 05:14:13.140 one-two punch, it's a little bit much. That felt, it felt kind of overwhelming, like we're talking 05:14:13.140 --> 05:14:16.660 about a backstage, like about what item you should buy. Maybe you should buy fours instead of yuls, 05:14:16.660 --> 05:14:21.140 but like, I don't know, it still feels like either all gonna get nullified. Yeah, he's gonna get 05:14:21.140 --> 05:14:25.280 silence for six hours and then Axe is gonna call and it's like he can't do 05:14:25.280 --> 05:14:29.420 anything. The Yule A on this definitely no matter what even if you tell me it's 05:14:29.420 --> 05:14:33.320 good I it cannot be good. You're buying Yule A on this against Nightstalker who 05:14:33.320 --> 05:14:37.320 have the reason you picked this hero is because he's gonna have nullifier in mid 05:14:37.320 --> 05:14:41.080 game it counters both. And also something that he did is he maxed out the 05:14:41.080 --> 05:14:44.640 silence at the early levels. We were also Terry crafting but this is good or bad 05:14:44.640 --> 05:14:50.400 for farming at 240 during night time, one crippling fear. 05:14:50.400 --> 05:14:51.400 It's not a lot. 05:14:51.400 --> 05:14:55.400 It still kind of blows in terms of farming capabilities, but having this maxed out early 05:14:55.400 --> 05:14:58.320 on causes quite a lot of issues blowing the cooldown. 05:14:58.320 --> 05:15:00.920 Maxing it out means it's going to stay there for like six seconds. 05:15:00.920 --> 05:15:04.600 You connect onto a target on top of global, that's 10 seconds of silence. 05:15:04.600 --> 05:15:09.760 And also, we brought up one of Mira's favorite heroes, and Quinn, you were wondering if it 05:15:09.760 --> 05:15:13.760 was a denial pick of the lion, and I said no. 05:15:13.760 --> 05:15:18.040 is extremely comfortable on the hero. He's only lost one game on it. 05:15:18.040 --> 05:15:20.840 You were lying. I was not lying. 05:15:20.840 --> 05:15:24.280 You were lying. The gameplay indicated otherwise, though. 05:15:24.280 --> 05:15:31.160 Yeah, I, to be honest, I think, like, Ursa's just so bad with lying in this context, because 05:15:31.160 --> 05:15:35.400 they both, like, neither one is a fight starter. Like, I think generally the heroes that start 05:15:35.400 --> 05:15:40.360 teamfights are the offlaners. And the heroes that are like carries and fours, they start, 05:15:40.360 --> 05:15:44.120 like skirmishes and Ursa and Lyon to me feel that similar role of like they 05:15:44.120 --> 05:15:47.200 want to get a pick off or they want to be the second guy to jump but they don't 05:15:47.200 --> 05:15:50.240 have the first guy to jump and so Knight of the one of them can really start a 05:15:50.240 --> 05:15:53.080 fight especially against all this vision and like TA and there's just too much 05:15:53.080 --> 05:15:57.120 stuff so I think he has like an impossible job to fill because they have 05:15:57.120 --> 05:16:00.400 no one to help him Phoenix just like they last picked Phoenix and he gets 05:16:00.400 --> 05:16:04.280 turbo stomped in lane and feeds a million kills like he can't play I honestly 05:16:04.280 --> 05:16:06.800 don't play mirror at all for this game I think he did all he could they did in 05:16:06.800 --> 05:16:11.600 already built, zero healing with Lyon and zero building damage, it's not like you should 05:16:11.600 --> 05:16:16.320 have ultied the mech of Saber to tower, he should have been punching the tower, right? 05:16:16.320 --> 05:16:20.280 He did do the creeps though, he tried, he tried once, but also there were like two or 05:16:20.280 --> 05:16:25.320 three times where they used their cane curse and the silence on him and his napfire ulti 05:16:25.320 --> 05:16:26.920 and he just dies from 100 to 0. 05:16:26.920 --> 05:16:30.200 He did have one play that was kind of sus and the early game when Niko was like teeping 05:16:30.200 --> 05:16:33.920 out behind the trees, if he just stunned the ground the guy was dead but maybe he clicked 05:16:33.920 --> 05:16:37.920 the portrait and the last vision it's like oh shit he's out there was also the 05:16:37.920 --> 05:16:41.640 one when they were running down mid and he just like nice just yeah and then 05:16:41.640 --> 05:16:45.720 look more like died as you go oh sorry guys it happens just another one of 05:16:45.720 --> 05:16:51.040 warlocks 20 deaths that game Aurora had a very very tough time in this the game 05:16:51.040 --> 05:16:54.840 number one they're going up against a Navi's hipster picks will they target 05:16:54.840 --> 05:16:58.200 them and game number two are coming with a new strategy we'll find out after the 05:16:58.200 --> 05:17:05.200 break. 05:17:58.200 --> 05:18:03.480 I'm singing the one and only 05:18:03.480 --> 05:18:11.000 And I don't need anything for you, my love 05:18:11.000 --> 05:18:14.400 Hold me till the morning 05:18:14.400 --> 05:18:18.040 Hold me till I'm gone 05:18:18.040 --> 05:18:20.440 Hold me not to forever 05:18:20.440 --> 05:18:25.040 Don't let me go, don't let me go 05:18:25.040 --> 05:18:32.040 Hold me till I'm gone, hold me till I'm gone 05:18:32.040 --> 05:18:38.040 Hold me not too far, don't let me go, don't let me go 05:18:41.040 --> 05:18:48.040 Washed in my phone and it's calling, cause I'm hoping it's you 05:18:48.040 --> 05:18:54.040 Needless to say I'm falling, and you don't have a clue 05:18:54.040 --> 05:19:01.040 Sunrise when I'm being me, and my throats being me right 05:19:01.040 --> 05:19:08.040 Look through skies when I'm singing in the water 05:19:38.040 --> 05:19:44.040 Hold me till I'm lonely, hold me till I'm lonely 05:19:44.040 --> 05:19:51.040 Hold me till I'm lonely, don't let me go, don't let me go 05:19:57.040 --> 05:20:00.040 Don't let me go 05:20:08.040 --> 05:20:13.540 Everybody's talking about the new sound 05:20:13.540 --> 05:20:17.040 Turn around, listen what the band keeps 05:20:17.040 --> 05:20:21.040 You got to breathe and let it go 05:20:21.040 --> 05:20:25.040 And in my hometown, turning up and rockin' 05:20:25.040 --> 05:20:27.040 Beep, beep, beep, beep 05:20:38.040 --> 05:21:07.040 Everybody's talking about the news, time to turn around and listen up to playing a fucking game 05:21:07.040 --> 05:21:09.040 What the fuck is this? 05:21:09.040 --> 05:21:12.040 To breathe in, let the power bump in 05:21:12.040 --> 05:21:14.040 In the hometown turning up 05:21:14.040 --> 05:21:18.040 And what to let be, be, be, be 05:21:37.040 --> 05:21:50.040 One, two, three. 05:21:50.040 --> 05:21:58.040 Let me while you're talking about the new sound Turn around and listen what the things it keeps 05:21:58.040 --> 05:22:08.040 You got to breathe in Let a power put in in the hotel Turn it up and rock to the beat 05:22:20.040 --> 05:22:47.040 I've been waiting a long time, just longing for a plan from you, yeah, a chance to look 05:22:47.040 --> 05:22:53.040 Look in those big brown eyes, no telling what my heart would do. 05:22:53.040 --> 05:23:04.040 Hey, when we met, I sure knew it felt as good as it could be. 05:23:04.040 --> 05:23:11.040 In that moment, though, it felt so good, I wondered why you noticed me. 05:23:11.040 --> 05:23:21.040 Ooh, if you gave me just a little time, it would sure need my two-hole friends. 05:23:21.040 --> 05:23:33.040 Welcome back, everyone, to game number two of Navia vs Aurora, where Aurora faces some 05:23:33.040 --> 05:23:39.540 hard questions, such as, is anything in the previous game respect band worthy? 05:23:39.540 --> 05:23:46.540 I'll tell you what the bands were last game. Navi banned out Lone Druid, Doom, and Tiny, and WS Doom every time 05:23:46.540 --> 05:23:52.040 I totally stand by that. Respectable. Aurora banned out Clockwork, Kaz, Rubik, Husskar. 05:23:53.540 --> 05:23:57.540 I think this Husskar ban is ridiculous. It's fake. That one's fake. Against Navi? 05:23:58.040 --> 05:24:03.040 Kind of like in general. Niku's a fine Husskar player, but they will not first phase it. They only play it mid, there's no flex. 05:24:03.040 --> 05:24:08.560 And I also think first pick house car is not real you can pick it on nine if you're really good house car 05:24:08.560 --> 05:24:11.340 But you can't first pick it the grid you can skip it 05:24:11.340 --> 05:24:13.940 But I think that problems also came more like later in the draft 05:24:13.940 --> 05:24:17.920 Yeah, like if you're gonna go to the earth but also I think sometimes you have these moments 05:24:17.920 --> 05:24:23.460 I'm just gonna talk about WS you give like a player a free reign on what he wants to pick. He's like, ah, give me Phoenix 05:24:23.460 --> 05:24:27.320 I'm gonna destroy this TA in the lane. He gets skill checked. He took the L. He can just say 05:24:27.320 --> 05:24:31.620 He's LS. Exactly. He's not WS, he's LS. Sometimes this happens, you know? 05:24:31.620 --> 05:24:34.920 You just gotta take the blame, my bad guys. Next game, let's do something different. 05:24:34.920 --> 05:24:39.720 His options were limited, so they took out Largo, they took out Beastmaster, they took out Dawnbreaker. 05:24:40.120 --> 05:24:43.120 He still had Underlord, and then he also first base banned Doom. 05:24:43.420 --> 05:24:46.620 But yeah, he had Underlord, what other 24th picks would you have been okay with? 05:24:47.020 --> 05:24:51.320 I suggested Primal Beast, and there was something else in his wall. 05:24:51.520 --> 05:24:54.120 Let me just check what he plays. 05:24:54.120 --> 05:24:58.980 I said think arm potentially that could save his fuck what cuz you build into loader source 05:24:58.980 --> 05:25:02.740 You can remove the global silence and you can also save people 05:25:02.740 --> 05:25:05.380 It's very good pairing with the fuck because with this stampede 05:25:05.380 --> 05:25:09.240 He just runs away from the silence and then fuck we did criticize his item build 05:25:09.240 --> 05:25:12.280 I think this was the potential save as well that could come out. That's true 05:25:12.320 --> 05:25:14.320 Would have led Makoto play a little bit more aggressively 05:25:15.240 --> 05:25:21.320 Instead though, they think that the Huskar is real Quinn. They ban it out first phase again to protect their puck 05:25:21.320 --> 05:25:28.320 This one makes more sense, I think, because your first pick and the Husker could be picked on 9 and it's also Husker against Buck. 05:25:28.320 --> 05:25:33.320 So this one I buy a lot more, and I think it's just a better ban whenever your first pick like this. 05:25:33.320 --> 05:25:36.320 Stop picking Warlock! 05:25:36.320 --> 05:25:38.320 They can hear you? 05:25:38.320 --> 05:25:41.320 It's a little louder than my heroes. 05:25:41.320 --> 05:25:46.320 Yeah, I also think this is one of the issues. You basically don't have a 5 that does things. 05:25:46.320 --> 05:25:49.040 things a lot of time he was just feeding on a different side of the map it is a 05:25:49.040 --> 05:25:52.600 difficult warlock game a lot of the times I feel it is a difficult warlock 05:25:52.600 --> 05:25:57.240 game no matter what yeah again keep going back to Malachi at Grand finals 05:25:57.240 --> 05:26:00.720 where they picked it three times back to of course yeah very important to where 05:26:00.720 --> 05:26:04.040 they lost all three of their games they've been picking warlocks so far in 05:26:04.040 --> 05:26:08.800 tournament as well but I feel like the meta has shifted and without black 05:26:08.800 --> 05:26:12.840 rim or art this doesn't do what you want to do before you have like if you get 05:26:12.840 --> 05:26:17.960 couple of kills assist you're gonna be level six and six minutes and then you 05:26:17.960 --> 05:26:23.760 can just go and go on and play the style that you want it I don't mind this 05:26:23.760 --> 05:26:28.780 personally it seems that what they like against Puck is the the combo of the 05:26:28.780 --> 05:26:32.740 NS silencer together which you couldn't get yeah I mean you talked about the 05:26:32.740 --> 05:26:36.080 combo also and obviously now the enemy team is first pick if you take one they'll 05:26:36.080 --> 05:26:39.800 ban the other yeah I could see like the voice for just being like a bit more 05:26:39.800 --> 05:26:44.640 clear it's easier to build other stuff around him even with some bands I'm okay 05:26:44.640 --> 05:26:48.600 with this yeah it's just interesting I think most of the time like most teams 05:26:48.600 --> 05:26:51.960 you would expect them to run the Night Stalker back and so I think it's very I 05:26:51.960 --> 05:26:55.560 think it shows some awareness and yeah I agree it shows like a they have a 05:26:55.560 --> 05:26:58.280 specific understanding about Night Stalker that need it with silencer 05:26:58.280 --> 05:27:01.080 because otherwise you just force it to silence the press spaceships so like you 05:27:01.080 --> 05:27:04.460 I guess the global is kind of cool and that like even if you force away your 05:27:04.460 --> 05:27:07.160 global now we catch up to you and you're still silenced even when the global 05:27:07.160 --> 05:27:13.160 And that's their theory. I can see it and it makes sense. It's interesting though. 05:27:13.160 --> 05:27:18.160 Just got the juice of Alchemist player. Should I maybe think this Voidsterer gets Fed and Agenemceptor? 05:27:18.160 --> 05:27:23.160 He has not played it in this tournament, but if you were a carry player in 2026, you were playing Alchemist. 05:27:23.160 --> 05:27:24.160 Better know how. 05:27:24.160 --> 05:27:25.160 You can play Alchemist. 05:27:25.160 --> 05:27:26.160 Not Pango though. 05:27:26.160 --> 05:27:28.160 Not Pango, that's right. Take a real hero. 05:27:30.160 --> 05:27:35.160 Axe gets banned out, so that's another part of Na'Vi's Game 1 success taken out of the pool. 05:27:35.160 --> 05:27:41.240 Yeah, this axe was a real menace to deal with throughout the whole mid-game. 05:27:41.240 --> 05:27:46.280 He had the relatively okay game in terms of farm because he wasn't on top of the network. 05:27:46.280 --> 05:27:53.020 But in the mid-game, he was the one jumping both nightfall and also jumping peck-pock. 05:27:53.020 --> 05:27:56.600 So it does make a lot of sense because he feels too comfortable, his win rate prior 05:27:56.600 --> 05:28:01.960 to this game was hitting at 75% win rate with his axe. 05:28:01.960 --> 05:28:06.380 Now this is a rare team that you would opt to ban out an axe instead of an underlord 05:28:06.380 --> 05:28:11.840 for, but it is warranted based on what you said. 05:28:11.840 --> 05:28:14.140 And another Puck solution comes out. 05:28:14.140 --> 05:28:17.400 Lion goes on the side of Navi this time. 05:28:17.400 --> 05:28:18.400 It's solid. 05:28:18.400 --> 05:28:20.600 You'll never complain about having Lion against Puck. 05:28:20.600 --> 05:28:22.840 I wouldn't say it's the best with Void Spirit. 05:28:22.840 --> 05:28:27.280 They're both sort of low damage and it's like you're stacking a lot of disable back to back. 05:28:27.280 --> 05:28:31.760 So now you're in a position of Navi where you need damage from at least one of your upcoming 05:28:31.760 --> 05:28:36.720 picks, but you also don't want to go too far in like the nuker bros. I think sometimes you can 05:28:36.720 --> 05:28:40.880 end up in the situation where you've got nuker mid and two nuker subs and you kind of like you 05:28:40.880 --> 05:28:45.680 fight in a similar way and things like pipe or just tank ability, aegis, ghost push, all these 05:28:45.680 --> 05:28:49.920 things can be really good against you. So you've created a scenario where these heroes are fine 05:28:49.920 --> 05:28:52.960 together and they're good against Puck, there's a reason they picked them, but you need to balance 05:28:52.960 --> 05:28:58.960 things a little bit with your upcoming picks. Riddies plays a lot of, he's played a lot of Venom 05:28:58.960 --> 05:29:03.920 in this tournament. Also Phoenix, I wouldn't say those heroes are particularly good against 05:29:03.920 --> 05:29:08.160 Puck. At least for now I'm just looking like more on their overall comfort. Obviously he'll 05:29:08.160 --> 05:29:12.640 have a bit more info coming out because if you're Aurora you should just pick your double stop. 05:29:13.280 --> 05:29:19.280 Yeah, I'd be okay with maybe getting Oracle. I just feel like because both of these damage you 05:29:19.280 --> 05:29:24.880 did talk about it were it's a lot of magic, it's a lot of the like damage between them that are 05:29:24.880 --> 05:29:29.120 sharing the same time. You nullify what you want to do. There is no silencer. Knight's 05:29:29.120 --> 05:29:34.040 talk at this time around probably not gonna come out. 05:29:34.040 --> 05:29:37.240 So you want that fake Phoenix in the reduction against all these newtons? 05:29:37.240 --> 05:29:40.800 Well instead they're gonna kill Warrish Phoenix. 05:29:40.800 --> 05:29:44.640 How do you know? Could be an off. 05:29:44.640 --> 05:29:48.960 They were like brother, you cannot give me this player. 05:29:48.960 --> 05:29:49.960 You cannot play. 05:29:49.960 --> 05:29:54.840 Yeah, I don't think you're gonna be running that. I mean they are using it as a flex here. 05:29:54.840 --> 05:30:18.700 So what can you do here if your Navi did you want the Oracle for Aurora or maybe also for Navi? 05:30:18.700 --> 05:30:21.700 for Aurora, could also be very good for Navi. 05:30:22.700 --> 05:30:32.700 I guess they will, they kind of have to look for one core to lock in, unless you can flick something between 1 and 3, but usually finding this is very difficult. 05:30:32.700 --> 05:30:37.700 I could just see them like lock in their offline here, and probably the fire. 05:30:37.700 --> 05:30:43.700 The snapfire also looks good, he plays, really does play position 5 snapfire as well. 05:30:43.700 --> 05:30:47.700 It's good against oil, it's good against peg, it was good in the previous games. 05:30:47.700 --> 05:30:52.580 So I want to see what the pairing is going to be from the off-lane. What does BMA want to play? 05:30:53.860 --> 05:30:56.380 He's got his underlord. He's got Slardar 05:30:57.700 --> 05:31:00.940 But if you want damage, you also put a little pristle back 05:31:02.940 --> 05:31:10.940 You got to be aware of Ursa again, I would say but this time on 18 which makes it much scarier in terms of 05:31:11.540 --> 05:31:13.180 like what kind of 05:31:13.180 --> 05:31:15.180 Off-lane pick you could get here 05:31:15.180 --> 05:31:24.180 Yeah. I don't like the TA here. I think the TA was good last game because he used the carry matchup. 05:31:24.180 --> 05:31:29.180 I think if he's suddenly playing against a bad carry matchup then you don't have this free TA scaling thing. 05:31:29.180 --> 05:31:34.180 That hero doesn't like it whenever she gets outscaled because she's not very good at playing fast. 05:31:34.180 --> 05:31:37.180 Like her first 15 minutes are kind of scripted. 05:31:37.180 --> 05:31:42.180 How about some Magnus type hero? 05:31:42.180 --> 05:31:44.180 Like Magnus? 05:31:44.180 --> 05:31:44.680 Yeah. 05:31:46.680 --> 05:31:48.180 I guess he's kind of bad here. 05:31:49.180 --> 05:31:50.180 You're such an idiot. 05:31:50.680 --> 05:31:51.680 There he is. 05:31:51.680 --> 05:31:52.680 No, that's not him though. 05:31:52.680 --> 05:31:53.180 He wanted that. 05:31:53.180 --> 05:31:54.680 Oh, it's not Magnus, actually. 05:31:54.680 --> 05:31:55.680 My bad. 05:31:55.680 --> 05:31:56.680 I literally meant Magnus. 05:31:56.680 --> 05:31:59.180 I don't even know why I put sound in that sentence. 05:31:59.180 --> 05:32:00.180 You also did tight. 05:32:00.180 --> 05:32:01.180 That was the funniest. 05:32:02.680 --> 05:32:04.680 Why do you want a Magnus type hero? 05:32:04.680 --> 05:32:07.680 So, I've seen them play Snap with Mag before. 05:32:07.680 --> 05:32:08.680 I mean, it's an age-old combo, right? 05:32:08.680 --> 05:32:10.680 You get the cookie, you can skewer back. 05:32:10.680 --> 05:32:12.180 Maybe they don't even lane together, 05:32:12.180 --> 05:32:17.100 But it also helps you to later on like to find a matchup for your carry. You make it a bit better 05:32:17.220 --> 05:32:19.580 It's also a pretty good combo with oyster 05:32:19.580 --> 05:32:21.860 I think boys for with powers actually quite nasty 05:32:21.860 --> 05:32:28.460 No, and it's also nice against these supports just having people to jump them especially who drink like screw this here 05:32:28.460 --> 05:32:31.660 You need the ways of jumping her and killing her because she's annoying 05:32:33.780 --> 05:32:36.900 Do you think this here was good enough to be picked blind though because I feel like 05:32:36.900 --> 05:32:42.460 like while I agree their aspects that are cool and I thought always picks 05:32:42.460 --> 05:32:47.180 you now played it like five times in a row he loves these are so type heroes 05:32:47.180 --> 05:32:52.180 I mean here's the type hero can't be another right can be loaned to it he is 05:32:52.180 --> 05:33:00.740 a bear as well sure fuck you look up so this is what you're apprehensive about 05:33:00.740 --> 05:33:05.300 about picking a Magnus blind though is that now you get our said it is a 05:33:05.300 --> 05:33:10.500 a problem maybe there's a world where I'm not here like the fact that you could 05:33:10.500 --> 05:33:14.200 maybe pick it blind because he can be flexed but whether it's often or carry 05:33:14.200 --> 05:33:17.840 mag you stuck against Ursa either way you don't really have that benefit I 05:33:17.840 --> 05:33:22.600 don't think about that I'd be okay with some faces wait for Navi I think they 05:33:22.600 --> 05:33:26.480 have no safe whatsoever it's very good against pretty much everything time 05:33:26.480 --> 05:33:31.840 that Lation does destroy most of these heroes I think Void in general is just 05:33:31.840 --> 05:33:38.000 Very good sometimes that we're seeing like some of the other heroes as well are very good because a kid a bit of Malice is 05:33:38.000 --> 05:33:44.120 Well on the board because there is no secondary BKB. There is no refresh ability available on that BKB 05:33:44.800 --> 05:33:49.200 You're kind of stuck. I think they need to ban boy. That would say right if you're Aurora 05:33:50.040 --> 05:33:52.980 It's unless you know that the offender you're picking now 05:33:53.880 --> 05:33:57.880 Covers it. It's at least one of the heroes I'd be a bit scared of yeah 05:33:57.880 --> 05:34:00.080 I mean you might be picking some some like in or 05:34:00.080 --> 05:34:02.720 or some underlord or something like that, 05:34:02.720 --> 05:34:04.800 the block picks it a little bit. 05:34:04.800 --> 05:34:08.320 I think Magnus Ursa is somewhat two-sided in mid-game. 05:34:08.320 --> 05:34:11.400 Like Ursa doesn't like being repositioned or kited. 05:34:11.400 --> 05:34:12.440 And if he doesn't have ags, 05:34:12.440 --> 05:34:14.040 like you can RPM or whatever, 05:34:14.040 --> 05:34:16.280 and during his BKB and you know, 05:34:16.280 --> 05:34:17.120 kind of things like this, 05:34:17.120 --> 05:34:18.040 or scurrying him out of position, 05:34:18.040 --> 05:34:19.400 you can also scurry him into hex. 05:34:19.400 --> 05:34:20.240 Yeah, that's it. 05:34:20.240 --> 05:34:21.920 You have another way, like another game 05:34:21.920 --> 05:34:23.520 where the Ursa ags doesn't feel that good. 05:34:23.520 --> 05:34:24.960 And it's one of their best tools. 05:34:24.960 --> 05:34:26.480 It would have been last game against the ags. 05:34:26.480 --> 05:34:28.600 And it also is overall, if you play against Magnus, 05:34:28.600 --> 05:34:30.400 It's a really big benefit of the Zero. 05:34:30.400 --> 05:34:30.900 Yeah. 05:34:32.500 --> 05:34:34.800 They opt to not ban out the faces, Void. 05:34:34.800 --> 05:34:38.200 Instead, they take out Dr. Juicers' game one time or two. 05:34:38.200 --> 05:34:42.000 I've been vague on saying that Kerry Magnus is going to be a thing. 05:34:42.000 --> 05:34:43.200 It's not a thing yet. 05:34:43.200 --> 05:34:45.200 But it might be now. 05:34:45.200 --> 05:34:47.800 Maybe not in this one, but I feel like this Zero 05:34:47.800 --> 05:34:50.400 definitely can be played from a Kerry Role. 05:34:51.400 --> 05:34:52.400 It can be. 05:34:52.400 --> 05:34:53.500 I haven't seen the builds yet. 05:34:53.500 --> 05:34:54.200 They matter a lot. 05:34:54.200 --> 05:34:56.900 It's probably just a mom, a harpoon, and to something. 05:34:56.900 --> 05:35:03.220 And he can be feeder then refresh 14 scabs on his level 15 talent is insane 05:35:07.100 --> 05:35:10.660 Try to think about the offline pick for Aurora. Yeah, what type of hero are you thinking about? 05:35:11.020 --> 05:35:13.780 Straight tight hunter not tight hunter type just tight hunter 05:35:15.180 --> 05:35:17.180 That's good 05:35:17.300 --> 05:35:20.180 That's good. I do I do think you want a beefy boy 05:35:20.180 --> 05:35:22.620 I say I think Ursa does not like he's the only jumper 05:35:22.620 --> 05:35:27.440 Yes, you either need like a fat guy who's sort of standing there and giving vision for us to pick his target 05:35:27.440 --> 05:35:29.800 Or you need someone to start first or so I can be the secondary job 05:35:30.760 --> 05:35:33.200 We're okay with something like a Beastmaster as well 05:35:33.400 --> 05:35:40.160 So Beastmasters having like insanely good games if he this is not a 24 Beastmaster 05:35:40.160 --> 05:35:45.240 But I think they're prepping potentially for basis voice something that we did mention 05:35:45.240 --> 05:35:50.980 So you have good ways of just canceling the team fight. It's very good against Magnus as well. It's a good follow-up on 05:35:50.980 --> 05:35:52.900 on puck abilities. 05:35:52.900 --> 05:35:54.740 And it's daytime, you have double daytime, 05:35:54.740 --> 05:35:57.060 which, you know, it sounds a little bit of a like a meme, 05:35:57.060 --> 05:35:59.220 but Phoenix only does turn it into daytime, 05:35:59.220 --> 05:36:00.980 and with innate ability from Dawnbreaker, 05:36:00.980 --> 05:36:02.380 you get the maxed out damage, 05:36:02.380 --> 05:36:04.060 so once you come in with the Solar Guardian, 05:36:04.060 --> 05:36:06.020 you're gonna pack a punch. 05:36:06.020 --> 05:36:08.540 I see, I still would say that Void is good. 05:36:08.540 --> 05:36:10.460 Monkey also, I think, is quite good. 05:36:10.460 --> 05:36:12.380 Maybe there's a bit of volatility with the subs, 05:36:12.380 --> 05:36:15.580 but Empower, like Monkey Magnus, has always been very good. 05:36:17.060 --> 05:36:19.020 I like FaZe's Void for the scale. 05:36:19.020 --> 05:36:20.780 I think, if you don't have scale here, 05:36:20.780 --> 05:36:25.780 It's a bit weird on Na'Vi, I mean it's not Bandit Hero. 05:36:25.780 --> 05:36:30.080 I think it was in some ways the only pick that saves things a bunch for them. 05:36:30.080 --> 05:36:34.480 I think Dawn is really good with puck against these heroes because they, like when they go on you, 05:36:34.480 --> 05:36:38.280 they have to stay quite close to you and if Dawn ults you will not die. 05:36:38.280 --> 05:36:43.480 And now that sort of changes because Void just is the ultimate carry in this game. 05:36:43.480 --> 05:36:46.080 And every Void game that's like this, like there's just a clock ticking. 05:36:46.080 --> 05:36:47.580 You can feel it ticking from the start of the game. 05:36:47.580 --> 05:36:49.980 If you do not win fast enough you will lose eventually 05:36:49.980 --> 05:36:55.700 And there's nothing you can do about it. So like Aurora Aurora is on a timer, but the drafters better the last yeah, absolutely 05:36:55.700 --> 05:36:57.380 I do like the 05:36:57.380 --> 05:37:00.820 Adjustments that they did make again, even though this is the first face buck 05:37:01.140 --> 05:37:05.620 He has been answered in terms of like the control that they do have they had overwhelming team fight 05:37:05.620 --> 05:37:08.940 On side of Navi you have like some of the best team fight alties 05:37:08.940 --> 05:37:13.680 You have ways of setting things up plus I think it's much easier for you to play the game 05:37:13.680 --> 05:37:17.540 If you have as Magnus as faceless void if you have a mid laner 05:37:17.540 --> 05:37:21.480 who's going in and creating a lot of chaos so you're setting things up for 05:37:21.480 --> 05:37:25.900 bloodsphere position one and three. I don't like what Aurora did with in this 05:37:25.900 --> 05:37:30.540 last phase if you're picking Dawn I'm not banning TA I'm banning Void like Dawn 05:37:30.540 --> 05:37:33.820 is considered one of the better heroes against TA obviously you just lost to 05:37:33.820 --> 05:37:39.140 it it's good against Ursa I get that but Mag Void in this game looks really 05:37:39.140 --> 05:37:44.300 strong it's like an age-old combo. Void is also the literal best carried 05:37:44.300 --> 05:37:48.300 to offline matchup against Dawn. It's the best one. Like, Dawn, when you pick Dawn, 05:37:48.300 --> 05:37:51.700 you always men void, because you can't kill him in lane, and that's Dawn's like whole 05:37:51.700 --> 05:37:55.740 schtick is you want to kill him in lane. You kite his ult, he jumps down to the chrono, 05:37:55.740 --> 05:37:58.940 dilation, like everything. It's a horrible matchup. It's very bad. 05:37:58.940 --> 05:38:03.440 If you use that before chrono for whatever reason, you're setting things up for two man 05:38:03.440 --> 05:38:08.460 RPs, at least two man chrono spheres on top of that. So, it feels like, again, they put 05:38:08.460 --> 05:38:13.460 themselves in a spot. Even though I like the adjustments, I still favor heavily Navi in 05:38:13.460 --> 05:38:18.580 is trapped. Yeah, because yet again, I'm left wondering what is the ideal teamfight situation 05:38:18.580 --> 05:38:24.420 for Aurora? And yet again, it's all on the shoulders of Puck. In game number one, it was like Puck has 05:38:24.420 --> 05:38:28.820 to go in and then everyone else follows it up. You were hoping that they would pick an offlaner 05:38:28.820 --> 05:38:32.740 that would start things in Earth so that it could follow up afterwards. Dombreaker does not start 05:38:32.740 --> 05:38:37.140 things. She doesn't. And it only got harder for her to jump in. I think it's another game where I 05:38:37.140 --> 05:38:41.140 think Mikoto has to overperform. I think he needs to do well in this one. They have to play through 05:38:41.140 --> 05:38:44.760 made they have to own or I think it's weird for them well see if Makoto can 05:38:44.760 --> 05:38:48.200 pull that off or if faceless void and void spirit are gonna bring the purple 05:38:48.200 --> 05:38:52.000 rain let's find out in game number two 05:39:11.140 --> 05:39:40.140 The sound is a lot of rustling on the shoulders of MacArthur here, and in the game 2, Navi 05:39:40.140 --> 05:39:44.860 long to the good in the space of the freeing, especially when you're up against the verbal pain of 05:39:44.860 --> 05:39:50.140 this force hurt and a faceless void that would absolutely bring the damage and control to this 05:39:50.140 --> 05:39:56.700 recruiter. But the panel didn't seem too happy about the Aurora Tram, lot of concerns and a lot to do. 05:39:57.740 --> 05:40:00.940 Do a 10-ball on their side though. Perseus does have a very good match against 05:40:00.940 --> 05:40:04.460 Void in terms of taking Roshawn's getting gauges, but she's playing into the big old 05:40:04.460 --> 05:40:08.540 season multiple lives and old thick and hard to deal with, so that's gonna be the name of the game 05:40:08.540 --> 05:40:13.740 here for nightfall much faster first the game than this game one we saw push the 05:40:13.740 --> 05:40:18.340 pace take objectives and make the team fights awkward for not yeah maybe you 05:40:18.340 --> 05:40:21.300 chrono to people but if one of them has agents someone else is getting sunrayed 05:40:21.300 --> 05:40:25.820 it's over guarding coming at the end it can be a little awkward to output the 05:40:25.820 --> 05:40:29.260 damage here until you at least get mega farmed you get mega farmed here yeah 05:40:29.260 --> 05:40:32.580 terrifying late game lineup no one's gonna deny that with the triple melee 05:40:32.580 --> 05:40:37.900 court in power but there's a lot that can happen before then and I would not 05:40:37.900 --> 05:40:39.900 under Raider War's ability to execute them. 05:40:39.900 --> 05:40:43.900 Yeah, playing through the royalties, reacting with a solar guardian, coiling, 05:40:43.900 --> 05:40:45.900 supernova to help out. 05:40:45.900 --> 05:40:50.900 There's tons of tools there at disposal to get some stuff done as that ladyface breaks down. 05:40:51.900 --> 05:40:54.900 This is why we got the juice though, a hero that... 05:40:54.900 --> 05:40:58.900 I've watched this team a lot. I was in the depths of the Eastern European qualifiers, 05:40:58.900 --> 05:41:01.900 Western European qualifiers, wherever these guys were. 05:41:01.900 --> 05:41:04.900 They were... kind of scrambled to land, get to events, 05:41:04.900 --> 05:41:09.500 events and sometimes no they drop a game sometimes to be up a game in a series 05:41:09.500 --> 05:41:13.220 facelift void is one of their specialty game two and game three heroes where 05:41:13.220 --> 05:41:15.940 they're like okay we need to either come back or we need to slam the door on 05:41:15.940 --> 05:41:19.380 our opponents and got the juice I feel like he always delivers on this hero I 05:41:19.380 --> 05:41:22.740 don't have seen him bloat he's super comfortable on it it's a switch of 05:41:22.740 --> 05:41:25.140 playstyle for them too which is why I think sometimes they go to it kind of 05:41:25.140 --> 05:41:27.740 throws a wrench in it you play this game one that is running it used to be a 05:41:27.740 --> 05:41:30.940 fast game play with night stalker constant scurvy sheen and all this 05:41:30.940 --> 05:41:41.940 some game. You get elastic faces for you. I was like, oh, oh, shit. Okay, well, now I got to change my whole mindset, right? You're making adjustments going in this game too. And you're probably talking as a team, they play really fast. They're gonna look for constant 05:41:41.940 --> 05:41:59.940 scorers. We can't fall behind. We can't get too greedy. Let's pick heroes that can win lanes and fight them. And then all of a sudden, now you're getting outscanned. That's another issue you have to solve. So I think that is something that can work well for them and kind of catch up on top guard. I do think I'm more have a pretty nice lane set up here. I kind of expect them to punch back a little bit, probably win. I want to say we're going to play a little bit. 05:41:59.940 --> 05:42:07.440 I want to say win both side lanes. It's kind of hard to win the dawn against the Void, but I think you should pre-farm up here as dawn, especially with the hoodwinks of support as we know. 05:42:07.440 --> 05:42:10.440 Maybe you can kill Lion luncher twice if that's fun to go out at four timings. 05:42:10.440 --> 05:42:13.440 And I think Ursa is going to pre-farm no matter what against Magnus. 05:42:13.440 --> 05:42:18.440 So you're winning one and a half to two here solidly. The mid is kind of a wash as it always is. 05:42:18.440 --> 05:42:25.940 You can get out to a solid game here as Aurora, and I think the Phoenix on support is going to probably look a lot better than did on Cork. 05:42:25.940 --> 05:42:28.940 Yeah, and the hands are curing on basic specialty heroes. 05:42:28.940 --> 05:42:36.940 So is there a clock on Aurora? Is that an outdated concept? Do you think Navi wants to get past 35 minutes? 05:42:36.940 --> 05:42:44.940 Navi are definitely very happy scaling, especially if they have cores in the top 3 or 4 network. They're going to feel very confident the later this game goes. 05:42:44.940 --> 05:42:52.940 There's a bit of a clock. However, I think clock as a concept is kind of dumb because it's all about relative networks. 05:42:52.940 --> 05:42:56.300 Who owns Roshan's? How can you take the team fights? 05:42:56.300 --> 05:43:01.760 And I think there is always a way to itemize your way out of scale and Dota if you are head-bystered now. 05:43:01.760 --> 05:43:04.420 Like, Faces Void's great. You can buy Wind Wakers. 05:43:04.420 --> 05:43:10.660 You know, okay, you can buy Nullabar. Yeah, it goes back and forth, but generally, if you're rich enough, you can solve a lot of issues. 05:43:11.300 --> 05:43:14.980 Even buybacks, like, there are some games where Faces Void just loses ultralakas. 05:43:16.700 --> 05:43:21.820 Yeah, like, you just spam lives into him and you can catch him with some nice initiations or turnarounds. 05:43:22.940 --> 05:43:27.760 You can make his life more difficult. Is he one of the most broken late game here's all time yet? 05:43:28.000 --> 05:43:33.960 But you should never look at like you never look at it like that in a game and just feel defeat right always come with solutions 05:43:34.560 --> 05:43:37.580 There's always a way so with enough momentum they can 05:43:40.640 --> 05:43:42.640 Too much taken too late 05:43:43.200 --> 05:43:47.780 27 for Niku already I start ahead of this pub where he's getting the click down 05:43:47.780 --> 05:43:49.780 He's a nice roll. 05:43:49.780 --> 05:43:54.780 So he has to step away from the wave a little bit there as Daze gives him the harassment as well. 05:43:54.780 --> 05:43:57.780 Got a little shredder already up from the snapfire. 05:43:57.780 --> 05:44:00.780 Another something you've got to worry about here is Phoenix. 05:44:00.780 --> 05:44:02.780 Trading can be a little tricky. 05:44:02.780 --> 05:44:07.780 If he fires trees, it's nice when they're up, but when they're down, the snapfire is going to run the lane. 05:44:07.780 --> 05:44:10.780 And then PMA can drag the wave back as well. 05:44:10.780 --> 05:44:13.780 Trying to reset a little closer to his tower. 05:44:13.780 --> 05:44:16.820 and got the two's actually playing together here off-lane. 05:44:16.820 --> 05:44:18.580 Done as a time dilation. 05:44:18.580 --> 05:44:20.580 Looks like they've got this for the Blood Grenade. 05:44:20.580 --> 05:44:23.220 Batch comes out in a mirror and he's finished off. 05:44:23.220 --> 05:44:25.620 Starbreaker's gonna land on the void, 05:44:25.620 --> 05:44:27.860 and it's gonna let you hammer chucked into what's ready. 05:44:27.860 --> 05:44:30.260 Popped a stick there, and he's actually survived 05:44:30.260 --> 05:44:31.860 and got away from WS. 05:44:31.860 --> 05:44:34.420 That was not the kill to give away, 05:44:34.420 --> 05:44:36.020 because you won the Lotus trade up here. 05:44:36.020 --> 05:44:38.500 You've double braced your full resources, Starbreaker, 05:44:38.500 --> 05:44:40.660 and you end up getting up first blood on the sling. 05:44:40.660 --> 05:44:43.620 Basically, you didn't really use any of WS's resources here. 05:44:43.620 --> 05:44:46.580 in that trade. It seems they just got the Ice Light Mirror completely. 05:44:47.940 --> 05:44:49.860 Bad debt to give up. I think this is a lane that... 05:44:50.900 --> 05:44:54.100 you want to dominate. You want to bring this way back, deny the camps, 05:44:54.100 --> 05:44:56.580 put the Void in a position where he has to come up or he's getting harassed, 05:44:56.580 --> 05:44:58.260 maybe he leaps, you know, all in him. 05:44:58.260 --> 05:45:00.900 Like, there's ways you can infuse this lane, at least force some extra regen out. 05:45:00.900 --> 05:45:02.900 Instead, you give away that first blood gold. 05:45:02.900 --> 05:45:05.060 It's a little bit of boost. We can seek out the Juicies. 05:45:05.060 --> 05:45:07.940 Not doing well, apparently. This has been a big struggle for him. 05:45:08.660 --> 05:45:12.660 And I think this is the two side lanes that Aurora should be winning pretty hard right now. 05:45:13.620 --> 05:45:18.180 It's definitely some breathing room here for Navi, he's gonna have to come from the 05:45:18.180 --> 05:45:20.620 mid lane where he goes, continuing to do super well. 05:45:20.620 --> 05:45:24.740 Yeah, it was just that one moment, that one lapse, right, there was like a double die 05:45:24.740 --> 05:45:29.380 away pressing forward, he said the Lotus would be grabbed, a mirror for porting no mans land. 05:45:29.380 --> 05:45:36.420 We got 14 laps left for the face of the void, not too happy with the current state of affairs. 05:45:36.420 --> 05:45:40.020 All about the equilibrium up here, if it's backed, you just start getting wailed on, 05:45:40.020 --> 05:45:44.460 You can't jump early, or you're gonna get caught by pushwag blood grenade all in, so... 05:45:44.460 --> 05:45:47.820 Yeah, sacrifice some early CS here, just to try and survive. 05:45:47.820 --> 05:45:51.220 That's why these small camp pools are so important, so they can track that lane back. 05:45:51.220 --> 05:45:53.220 It's not gonna get run out, though. 05:45:53.220 --> 05:45:59.220 That position, like, you don't want to time-walk that, but then you're just taking Nutrition here and you're getting forced off the waves. 05:45:59.220 --> 05:46:01.220 This is really rough, I forgot the juice up here. 05:46:01.220 --> 05:46:04.220 It's the full zone, and then the chains for Bombo! 05:46:04.220 --> 05:46:06.220 Yeah, that's it there? 05:46:06.220 --> 05:46:08.220 To me, this is how I thought this lane was gonna go more. 05:46:08.220 --> 05:46:10.820 That's why I was surprised by that first play and how well they were doing early on. 05:46:11.460 --> 05:46:13.460 So this is a lot of missed time for this boy. 05:46:13.460 --> 05:46:15.620 He is going to be very far behind in this game. 05:46:15.620 --> 05:46:20.900 He's going to have to look towards the Empower maybe a little earlier than PMA is going to want. 05:46:21.940 --> 05:46:23.780 Days for us to grab the Amp damage. 05:46:24.540 --> 05:46:25.620 On the nose of the Phoenix. 05:46:25.620 --> 05:46:26.740 No refill there. 05:46:26.980 --> 05:46:28.140 Free of the Midlaners. 05:46:28.980 --> 05:46:32.140 Still sticking around to see if they can get anything done with the pod. 05:46:32.140 --> 05:46:34.140 But this leaves PMA completely open. 05:46:34.140 --> 05:46:39.140 He's gonna hold that secure as a defensive tool, but this is now freedom for Nightfall. 05:46:39.140 --> 05:46:43.140 Yeah, most sidelines going very well for them. 33 and 7.5 on that. 05:46:43.140 --> 05:46:44.140 Alright, sir. 05:46:44.140 --> 05:46:48.140 The sidelines going well means Aurora have more freedom to move their supports in this game. 05:46:48.140 --> 05:46:51.140 They can bring supports mid with Coil, try and look for the Void Spear kill. 05:46:51.140 --> 05:46:53.140 It's probably the hardest QT kill on the map. 05:46:53.140 --> 05:46:55.140 Still on his pot though. Defensive Coil. 05:46:55.140 --> 05:46:56.140 They're just making the move first. 05:46:56.140 --> 05:46:57.140 Lion swings in. They get the kill. 05:46:57.140 --> 05:47:01.140 Daze, he's been here for about a minute and a half, waiting for his moment to strike with it. 05:47:01.140 --> 05:47:02.140 That looks like damage room. 05:47:02.140 --> 05:47:06.140 I thought I would have been Aurora looking for this instead, not even kind of like a sneaky play. 05:47:06.140 --> 05:47:08.140 Bring all their stuns mid, find this puck. 05:47:08.140 --> 05:47:12.140 This life contains to be miserable, they do get the Magnus, and they're going to look toward Wisdom Shrine, 05:47:12.140 --> 05:47:17.140 so maybe the bigger win here for Aurora if they can grab both shrines here, keep these Navi supports low. 05:47:17.140 --> 05:47:19.140 There's going to be food on the map. 05:47:19.140 --> 05:47:20.140 There's nobody contesting this. 05:47:20.140 --> 05:47:21.140 Nope. 05:47:21.140 --> 05:47:24.140 Left-hand side, same story, so yeah, double shrines. 05:47:24.140 --> 05:47:30.140 That means faster alties from these Raiden Heroes, which we said were very strong to play through. 05:47:30.140 --> 05:47:33.580 Well, let's see Aurora look to pressure this void more. 05:47:33.580 --> 05:47:37.100 You can easily bring a coil up here and just kill God to juice at almost any point in the 05:47:37.100 --> 05:47:38.100 first 20-30 minutes here. 05:47:38.100 --> 05:47:40.100 He's going to die in coil with damage follow-up. 05:47:40.100 --> 05:47:42.100 You can do the same thing to the Magnus. 05:47:42.100 --> 05:47:45.260 It's also fine, but he's probably going to go jungle here. 05:47:45.260 --> 05:47:48.500 So if you have an empty lane for Nightball, bring the Phoenix through the gate, smoke 05:47:48.500 --> 05:47:50.260 the puck, or go to the Pucks lane. 05:47:50.260 --> 05:47:53.140 There's a lot of options open for Aurora, and this is what you want to try and do because, 05:47:53.140 --> 05:47:54.700 again, you're playing against all those Ultra-Scale. 05:47:54.700 --> 05:48:01.380 No, you wanna put your foot on the gas and step on their neck early so they feel the pressure. 05:48:01.380 --> 05:48:03.020 That's how you can kinda turn it against them. 05:48:03.020 --> 05:48:06.960 Like yeah, it's one thing to sit in this game as a RORB, thinking about, oh man, Ultra-Lay 05:48:06.960 --> 05:48:10.220 does land up super scary, but if you can put an odd unit position where they're thinking, 05:48:10.220 --> 05:48:12.380 oh man, are we even gonna get to Lay game? 05:48:12.380 --> 05:48:13.940 A lot of that pressure goes away. 05:48:13.940 --> 05:48:17.020 Well with another move made, they find a kill on Mira and a Koto. 05:48:17.020 --> 05:48:20.700 Has the backup of the Solar Guardian though, gonna land in onto Niku and that voice spray 05:48:20.700 --> 05:48:21.700 is gonna get pummeled. 05:48:21.700 --> 05:48:25.860 I'm bringing three heroes in to defend that mid lane, I'm only losing the hoodwink. 05:48:25.860 --> 05:48:30.260 There's gonna be a big difference from game one, I think these coils are way more dangerous. 05:48:30.260 --> 05:48:32.700 He knuckles here as well, you know. 05:48:32.700 --> 05:48:37.500 He's always lurking man, he likes making these little rotations on the Ursa. 05:48:37.500 --> 05:48:40.820 Just seeing what's up, either controlling a power rune, maybe you swing and mid, give 05:48:40.820 --> 05:48:41.820 a little extra damage. 05:48:41.820 --> 05:48:42.820 I don't mind him. 05:48:42.820 --> 05:48:49.500 I think it costs him very little and the opportunity is often there. 05:48:49.500 --> 05:48:52.500 Something that's worked for Aurora in the last six months or so. 05:48:53.500 --> 05:48:56.500 Opportunity cost, you missed two creeps. Potential for a kill mid. 05:48:57.500 --> 05:48:59.500 Something here though, there's Naveen. 05:48:59.500 --> 05:49:02.500 The two supports was probing from lane to lane trying to get what they can. 05:49:02.500 --> 05:49:05.500 A cookie completely off the mark though, and WS is just... 05:49:05.500 --> 05:49:07.500 Alright, then I'm gonna shrug this off. 05:49:07.500 --> 05:49:09.500 What's grandma cooking up here? 05:49:09.500 --> 05:49:11.500 Some wheat cookies or something. 05:49:12.500 --> 05:49:14.500 A oatmeal raisin. 05:49:14.500 --> 05:49:16.500 A really strong oatmeal. 05:49:16.500 --> 05:49:25.000 I don't think they killed there anyway. This guy's 1500 HP. With the Lotus, with the Wand. Good luck. 05:49:25.000 --> 05:49:28.000 This is where your low level supports are really killing you on the map right now. 05:49:28.000 --> 05:49:35.000 I have a Wild Attempt. And now, this is the answer. I can't make chain stuns from the Bushwhack out of Fog. 05:49:35.000 --> 05:49:39.000 Easy pickings from Makoto. I think it's too easy for a Ruan out there. 05:49:39.000 --> 05:49:42.000 Anywhere this puck goes, there's Killturt. 05:49:42.000 --> 05:49:47.000 Coil threatens all three of these cores, silence is pretty nasty for all of them. 05:49:50.000 --> 05:49:52.000 He's having a way better time with it now. 05:49:53.000 --> 05:49:57.000 And it feels like this is enough momentum to swell them out on the lane stage. 05:49:58.000 --> 05:50:02.000 And in any other game, a 3K lead feels pretty good. 05:50:02.000 --> 05:50:07.000 Is this the expected outcome though? Like is this a necessary 3K lead for Aurora? 05:50:07.000 --> 05:50:11.000 I'd say you expect to lose lanes here, it has to be. Or at least lose the lane phase. 05:50:12.000 --> 05:50:15.440 The Muscle's void spirit just goes absolutely weak here. 05:50:15.440 --> 05:50:17.440 Going in on his Dawnbreaker again. 05:50:17.440 --> 05:50:20.720 WS-8 wand, with double Bracer paying off. 05:50:20.720 --> 05:50:23.520 Turns with a Starbreaker for the additional Darington of Daze. 05:50:23.520 --> 05:50:24.720 He's gonna do the job. 05:50:24.720 --> 05:50:27.520 I still pick up for them. Didn't even have to use the Chrono, 05:50:27.520 --> 05:50:29.520 still have that there on the map. 05:50:29.520 --> 05:50:31.520 Niku doing some heavy lifting right now. 05:50:31.520 --> 05:50:35.520 That's what we've got to do, because Daze is being backed up on Makoto and Mira. 05:50:35.520 --> 05:50:38.520 Niku, with the help of this Impale, they're on the block. 05:50:38.520 --> 05:50:41.040 I don't know, they've changed them down to about a third of his health, 05:50:41.040 --> 05:50:45.920 but he's still able to jaunt away, and Gobleteuse couldn't quite get there in time with the Chrono. 05:50:45.920 --> 05:50:48.160 So now Mera just throws the pushback back at this. 05:50:48.160 --> 05:50:51.600 See, he's a snapfire, while PMA has joined this. 05:50:52.240 --> 05:50:54.720 Looking for a chance to get an RP on someone. 05:50:54.720 --> 05:50:57.920 Start with a stun out of Lion, the hypnotize in, the Chrono's there, 05:50:57.920 --> 05:51:00.240 but what if he was dragged into it or walks into it, 05:51:00.240 --> 05:51:04.160 whichever way he would still, all the way to Rift off and blow them up anyway! 05:51:04.160 --> 05:51:04.960 A Chrono! 05:51:05.840 --> 05:51:07.760 Turn it back onto Narvi! 05:51:07.760 --> 05:51:08.880 Slammed down! 05:51:08.880 --> 05:51:15.300 That was a beautiful combination right there and it was all set up by this arcane rune on the puck. 05:51:15.300 --> 05:51:22.100 You're skirmishing the arcane rune puck with max orbit. So obnoxious, so hard to deal with in this early game. 05:51:22.100 --> 05:51:25.700 We see God that you're trying to find some sort of impact here early with a chrono. 05:51:25.700 --> 05:51:31.900 Just barely off the mark there in it. There's one of those things like, oh, maybe it's not gonna make a difference. 05:51:31.900 --> 05:51:34.820 Oh, it's gonna make a difference. Well, let's see what they do. It's not gonna make a difference. 05:51:34.820 --> 05:51:41.620 It definitely made a difference here. They got really punished for this stun not landing on Makoto here 05:51:45.020 --> 05:51:52.460 He just need one more hit he lives on seven HP and then gets an entire round of spells off huge just destiny 05:51:55.020 --> 05:51:57.820 Do we want to impale into chrono or impale into RP? 05:51:57.820 --> 05:51:59.820 PMA was waiting for his moment to go in 05:51:59.820 --> 05:52:05.420 Didn't really just want to go straight onto the puck and I'm going to place the egg as well. Oh, yeah, skewable egg placement 05:52:05.940 --> 05:52:10.620 You had Ursa free-firing bottom the whole time. He joined that fight might fall the cheerleader clapping from the sidelines 05:52:10.620 --> 05:52:15.980 Good job boys. He's now able to get into the fray as well. If you were back into a two-man RP 05:52:16.260 --> 05:52:19.980 Yeah, fuck was low, but no kill threat from Navi in this situation 05:52:19.980 --> 05:52:23.420 Just gonna bleed out and lose hero after hero. This is getting concerning 05:52:24.300 --> 05:52:26.820 You're blowing big oldies and you're not finding 05:52:26.820 --> 05:52:33.380 those key clutch kills here to try and stabilize the game. I feel like the beads 05:52:33.380 --> 05:52:38.380 of sweat are just dripping down Niko's face right now watching every one of 05:52:38.380 --> 05:52:45.660 these fights just like... every tendon muscle muscle fiber of his being. Because 05:52:45.660 --> 05:52:48.740 every old thing goes out that doesn't stabilize this game is just more 05:52:48.740 --> 05:52:53.340 pressure on voids here. More emphasis on Niko to have to do something here to 05:52:53.340 --> 05:52:56.740 slow the pace down. I feel like at this point you're almost already thinking okay 05:52:56.740 --> 05:52:59.240 The first one is guaranteed and he falls, yeah. 05:52:59.240 --> 05:53:02.540 Probably, maybe even the second, if this game continues on the trajectory. 05:53:02.540 --> 05:53:04.340 So, here are any Magnus Blink here. 05:53:04.340 --> 05:53:05.540 It's a big piece of the puzzle. 05:53:05.540 --> 05:53:07.140 You need to get these support ults. 05:53:07.140 --> 05:53:08.040 Cooking as well. 05:53:08.040 --> 05:53:09.440 No finger charges for Ries. 05:53:09.440 --> 05:53:10.640 He missed that first one. 05:53:10.640 --> 05:53:11.740 Two of the kisses. 05:53:11.740 --> 05:53:14.840 These are some of your better early-in spells to look for some of these kills. 05:53:14.840 --> 05:53:17.040 Try and play through the Void Spirit. 05:53:17.040 --> 05:53:19.440 He's your one low cooldown threat in this game. 05:53:23.840 --> 05:53:25.440 He's going battle here, too. 05:53:25.440 --> 05:53:54.440 I do like this build. It feels super nice to play with if you get into the battle theory plus the axe. You're just leaping around clearing waves and everything. You get the bashes off all the stun procs or the cleeds off all the stun procs. It feels amazing to play with. So I'm not going to deny that aspect of it. It is a little bit of a slower build. It ramps a little bit slower. It does a little less damage early on in the teamfights than like mask of madness slash maelstrom. 05:53:54.440 --> 05:53:59.860 from Mjolnir, and it's a question of when you have a power, really, the Mask of Man is 05:53:59.860 --> 05:54:03.080 going to take advantage of the power, empower a lot better in this game than the battle 05:54:03.080 --> 05:54:04.080 very well. 05:54:04.080 --> 05:54:09.760 I need Q, nice to simulate, doesn't get picked there as they try to breach the ramp. 05:54:09.760 --> 05:54:15.880 Look at that coil though, and the sunray damage, pretty substantial, gets off the pulse, chronic 05:54:15.880 --> 05:54:18.920 an outcome and a push whack, stops any damage, engage. 05:54:18.920 --> 05:54:23.440 He's kind of out of there and then he's flirting with danger and too much danger 05:54:24.440 --> 05:54:28.000 Which plate already done in this fuck is pretty brutal for him 05:54:29.120 --> 05:54:33.280 So is the battle fury consequence of this early lane stage going bad or is it just 05:54:34.880 --> 05:54:40.520 Probably just his preferred build maybe it's a little bit of a I feel like I'm too far behind to try and accelerate this game 05:54:40.520 --> 05:54:42.520 I'll just have to play for the ultra scale here 05:54:42.840 --> 05:54:48.440 You know when it with some sick chronos later on like delay the curve until they don't you don't really play don't like 05:54:48.440 --> 05:54:53.560 Power your alert force as much with Magnus as you used to so I'm not going to say that it's a big a factor 05:54:53.560 --> 05:54:55.560 So what's five or six years ago when it was just? 05:54:56.080 --> 05:54:57.320 default 05:54:57.320 --> 05:55:01.880 You know that's like in the days where we saw you play Magnus PA and PA would go first light of the best though 05:55:01.880 --> 05:55:06.240 Yeah, right you don't need to go about it for you. You want to take advantage of that extra clean because it's so powerful now 05:55:06.240 --> 05:55:07.760 It's a lot weaker, so 05:55:07.760 --> 05:55:10.120 It's not the biggest factor. It's still game factor, but 05:55:10.600 --> 05:55:13.160 It's gonna be a slow game for Navi here 05:55:13.160 --> 05:55:20.160 Especially losing both these side lane tier ones. Pretty easy access now into this mid lane which is already pretty low HP on the tower there as well. 05:55:20.160 --> 05:55:25.160 So Aurora have thick of a litter in terms of where they want to be on the map. 05:55:25.160 --> 05:55:31.160 Currently they're just being very deliberate with this farming, sitting back and waiting. 05:55:31.160 --> 05:55:34.160 With the puck in the air so in this bottom jungle. 05:55:34.160 --> 05:55:37.160 That's the issue. There's heroes off the map for Aurora. 05:55:37.160 --> 05:55:43.160 Who's gonna push waves out of this game for Navi without the threat of just dying to heroes in the fog? 05:55:44.160 --> 05:55:48.160 It's rough. Lion doesn't do it. The Magnus... 05:55:48.160 --> 05:55:54.160 Like, he kinda wants to do it, but he also kinda wants to threaten something with this blink. The Void is not doing it. 05:55:54.160 --> 05:55:57.160 So you have like two dead heroes, you're snapped to do it a little bit. 05:55:57.160 --> 05:56:02.160 Void spirits are afraid of getting coiled. It's really scary to get these lanes out, and it's gonna be scary for a long time. 05:56:02.160 --> 05:56:04.160 So we're going to see this network being thrown. 05:56:04.160 --> 05:56:09.160 At least until Navi are willing to group up and try and take a fire off some sort of early item timing. 05:56:10.160 --> 05:56:12.160 Try and bait something in. 05:56:12.160 --> 05:56:19.160 Often you can try and bait a fight in this position if you're Navi and kind of rally around like tier one mid or something. 05:56:19.160 --> 05:56:22.160 Even early buyback, because you have the big ult. 05:56:22.160 --> 05:56:25.160 The curve has been delayed even further, brother. 05:56:25.160 --> 05:56:26.160 Courier snipe there. 05:56:26.160 --> 05:56:28.160 Faces void bath through, delayed by a minute and a half. 05:56:28.160 --> 05:56:34.160 So he removes his voice phone from the map, and into the tier 1 tower mid. 05:56:34.160 --> 05:56:35.160 Simple moves. 05:56:35.160 --> 05:56:38.160 So I'm going to get faster from here on out. 05:56:38.160 --> 05:56:39.160 Osta has his blink dagger. 05:56:39.160 --> 05:56:42.160 You already said this Roshan is a gimme for Aurora. 05:56:42.160 --> 05:56:43.160 Pretty early here. 05:56:43.160 --> 05:56:45.160 You definitely want to do this really early. 05:56:45.160 --> 05:56:50.160 This is a game where you want every Roshan going down as fast as possible, as instantly as possible, 05:56:50.160 --> 05:56:53.160 to put as much pressure on these bingles for Naughty. 05:56:53.160 --> 05:56:59.320 I guess when you're relying on a big RP and chrono and you want to be able to get these 05:56:59.320 --> 05:57:03.320 huge kills, not forges but that second line of his sleeve. 05:57:03.320 --> 05:57:07.240 It's one of the best items against Faceless Void. 05:57:07.240 --> 05:57:10.240 And there's no real need to commit anything on the map either by Aurora. 05:57:10.240 --> 05:57:14.640 No, this Dawnbreaker could just sit, farm jungle, I've got Solar Guardian ready to react, so 05:57:14.640 --> 05:57:18.200 even if not, they do make one of these big sweeping 5-van moves with all their ulti that's 05:57:18.200 --> 05:57:19.200 ready. 05:57:19.200 --> 05:57:20.200 There are so many answers. 05:57:20.200 --> 05:57:21.200 And they can be efficient. 05:57:21.200 --> 05:57:24.560 They're gonna have heroes off the map like the puck or the hoodwink looking for kills 05:57:24.560 --> 05:57:27.680 and they're not losing out on too much gold or camps that are going to spawn every minute 05:57:27.680 --> 05:57:31.520 because you didn't stop where you can clean it up. 05:57:31.520 --> 05:57:34.720 We did see Navi trying to paint out something mid a little bit, and there's just nothing 05:57:34.720 --> 05:57:35.720 going on. 05:57:35.720 --> 05:57:42.640 I don't think we've done a good job the past couple of minutes though, stemming the 05:57:42.640 --> 05:57:46.280 flow, bleeding out that they were doing. 05:57:46.280 --> 05:57:50.280 Get some gold, get some of these initial items like yule's on this voice bridge, it's pretty 05:57:50.280 --> 05:57:53.460 close now that's the interesting about this game though it's one of those games 05:57:53.460 --> 05:57:58.360 where you can stem the bleeding but the charts gonna keep going up because the 05:57:58.360 --> 05:58:01.680 way you're stemming it is just by not pushing those ways out not showing as 05:58:01.680 --> 05:58:05.280 much so yeah you're not dying you go good with that in the same time infection 05:58:05.280 --> 05:58:12.680 hits yeah you're still dying by a thousand cuts here these types of games 05:58:12.680 --> 05:58:16.720 that they're really difficult to play because they are still winnable but you 05:58:16.720 --> 05:58:23.900 You have to pick that one moment to take that teamfight, and it has to be 100% correct. 05:58:23.900 --> 05:58:27.320 What that situation sets up, so that you get so much value out of your spells, this network 05:58:27.320 --> 05:58:28.320 difference doesn't matter. 05:58:28.320 --> 05:58:34.560 And that is a skill set in itself, and I would honestly say it probably lends itself to the 05:58:34.560 --> 05:58:36.960 more veteran players. 05:58:36.960 --> 05:58:43.840 You can try and spot how do we get Aurora to overextend some of that stuff. 05:58:43.840 --> 05:58:46.360 Who can we dangle in front of them? 05:58:46.360 --> 05:58:48.360 Now it's the lion 05:58:49.120 --> 05:58:51.120 Riddies 05:58:51.120 --> 05:58:54.400 Counting his way out until now the character says hello 05:58:55.280 --> 05:58:56.960 Quick goodbye as well 05:58:56.960 --> 05:59:00.880 Meanwhile TV out of days does get him out of danger off to the other side 05:59:01.560 --> 05:59:03.320 solid space 05:59:03.320 --> 05:59:08.440 Thank you, though. My goodness. No late shuffle you son get back to your side of the map 05:59:09.800 --> 05:59:13.040 Miss you will double the effective looking mirror 05:59:13.040 --> 05:59:18.040 Well, hoodwink out there scouting, looking for more targets, and there's a backup of the dawnbreaker ulti. 05:59:18.040 --> 05:59:20.040 Can't even kill the squirrel, man. 05:59:20.040 --> 05:59:21.040 Yeah, invulnerable. 05:59:21.040 --> 05:59:23.040 Helped out by WS. 05:59:23.040 --> 05:59:27.040 And now they just cut this map all the way across the river. There's no advancing by Navi. 05:59:27.040 --> 05:59:29.040 Didn't have to use any of their ultimates. 05:59:29.040 --> 05:59:31.040 And then the lanes get pushed in this bottom lane as well. 05:59:31.040 --> 05:59:34.040 It's annoying, even without the coil they could kill here. 05:59:34.040 --> 05:59:36.040 When you're worth more than enough. 05:59:36.040 --> 05:59:39.040 Might as well use the ULT's base here, guys. 05:59:39.040 --> 05:59:41.040 Yeah, ULT's pretty nice against Araster. 05:59:41.040 --> 05:59:44.040 I think it's Coil, you can think about that, Wind Waker later on as well. 05:59:44.040 --> 05:59:45.040 Yeah, very good, you'll see. 05:59:48.040 --> 05:59:50.040 At least you have your battle fury and power void cooking. 05:59:51.040 --> 05:59:54.040 So he is starting to farm up now, he can recover this gap. 05:59:54.040 --> 05:59:56.040 Start to become that threat. 05:59:58.040 --> 05:59:59.040 It's gonna feel a little better. 06:00:00.040 --> 06:00:04.040 Pushes one, waves two, he's mid, gather what farm he can. 06:00:05.040 --> 06:00:08.040 Well Aurora looking at the bottom lane, you need to. 06:00:08.040 --> 06:00:12.040 Am I dodge? Not catching him like that, Mira. 06:00:12.040 --> 06:00:14.040 Doing God's work down here. 06:00:14.040 --> 06:00:16.040 It's playing with him a little bit. 06:00:16.040 --> 06:00:20.040 And there's a smoke coming through, so all Aurora thinking about killing this guy. 06:00:20.040 --> 06:00:23.040 And there's Rune down in the bottom spot. 06:00:23.040 --> 06:00:25.040 They're trying to bait it. 06:00:25.040 --> 06:00:27.040 There's a head to play. They might get him on this. 06:00:27.040 --> 06:00:29.040 He knows, doesn't he? 06:00:29.040 --> 06:00:31.040 He absolutely knows. 06:00:31.040 --> 06:00:34.040 And Niku gets to push another wave. Lovely. 06:00:34.040 --> 06:00:36.040 Meanwhile, two men to dead. 06:00:36.040 --> 06:00:36.880 Oh god, you're mo- 06:00:37.840 --> 06:00:38.340 Okay 06:00:40.500 --> 06:00:41.500 All the Puckers walks it off 06:00:42.000 --> 06:00:42.500 Yeah 06:00:43.560 --> 06:00:45.400 Ships in the night, nice boomerang here 06:00:46.040 --> 06:00:46.540 Yeah 06:00:47.240 --> 06:00:47.960 That's well 06:00:49.240 --> 06:00:52.760 I didn't feel it when a team like Navi is really tightening up and playing his 5 06:00:53.640 --> 06:00:56.520 It's net worth lead, advances, XPV getting bigger and bigger 06:00:57.020 --> 06:01:00.360 Leaving two heroes in the open, near means lying, about to get shredded 06:01:00.360 --> 06:01:02.600 And I don't think PMA is gonna last too long either 06:01:02.920 --> 06:01:04.040 SSR and TP 06:01:04.040 --> 06:01:15.040 When more stuns, they do. WS, a medical streak. Shot helping out, getting the damage onto him while I was just chasing Liku across the edge of the map. 06:01:16.040 --> 06:01:21.040 MacDawbreaker isn't a Crescent Hero. You are constricted like this. 06:01:22.040 --> 06:01:30.040 It reminds me of the Underlord too. Those are the two offlaners I think for me that when you were in a winning position, they closed the map so fast. 06:01:30.040 --> 06:01:36.640 Your play options just go galoreous by such a large degree it feels as if there are no play options 06:01:37.540 --> 06:01:43.440 And you know at the same time they're just vacuuming up all the time. Yep 12 and a half thousand net worth dorm breaker 06:01:44.440 --> 06:01:46.440 Six one and five 06:01:46.960 --> 06:01:51.420 Grand old time it's back to score a hundred. I need to get it here 06:01:52.480 --> 06:01:53.840 Take it down 06:01:53.840 --> 06:01:55.840 Yeah, with a nice push back 06:02:00.080 --> 06:02:03.240 Finger that's coral down and get yourself some bonus damage here 06:02:04.720 --> 06:02:06.120 Something out of nothing 06:02:06.120 --> 06:02:11.160 Naps smoke. Yeah looking to try and get something bigger. They do damage with chrono kisses 06:02:11.480 --> 06:02:13.720 We haven't really seen the combo this game, but it's there 06:02:15.280 --> 06:02:18.760 You're raising a very good spot to smoke break though. Oh, they'd love to find a fall 06:02:18.760 --> 06:02:21.520 They just can bypass the Phoenix and get right onto Nightfall. 06:02:21.520 --> 06:02:25.840 They're used into Chrono, kisses Landing, solar guard in the heal, and he's still a 06:02:25.840 --> 06:02:30.560 half health, but the blast damage is enough to kill him off, and now the Dawnbreaker RP'd 06:02:30.560 --> 06:02:31.560 under the combo of Narvae. 06:02:31.560 --> 06:02:35.560 They're gonna double kill for days, or they'd deal with the Eggwither, the Lost Redder, 06:02:35.560 --> 06:02:36.560 and the Right Whip. 06:02:36.560 --> 06:02:37.560 They give all three! 06:02:37.560 --> 06:02:41.440 The Curtis puck is in, trying to do some things, but I don't know if there's too much 06:02:41.440 --> 06:02:42.440 to chew on. 06:02:42.440 --> 06:02:46.560 This Mirror, he's hooked into Kill of Days, but Aurora's gonna fully re-stand back up. 06:02:46.560 --> 06:02:47.560 Great. 06:02:47.560 --> 06:02:48.560 No fight for them. 06:02:48.560 --> 06:02:52.560 Those are those moments, right? You gotta get those spikes where you feel a little momentum and you just... 06:02:52.560 --> 06:02:55.560 You take it and you extract as much of the marrow as you can. 06:02:56.560 --> 06:02:59.560 Great core kills here from Obby. Everything you could ask for off that smoke plate. 06:02:59.560 --> 06:03:02.560 And all your big cores lit. That's another big component here. 06:03:02.560 --> 06:03:06.560 You don't want to make that play and then have the Void die. He doesn't get the time to farm. 06:03:06.560 --> 06:03:09.560 The time to farm after something like this is almost as valuable as the kills. 06:03:10.560 --> 06:03:13.560 And now it's the War Guardian. Getback fire is pretty hard. 06:03:13.560 --> 06:03:15.560 If you get Ursel Ult off here, sure, but... 06:03:15.560 --> 06:03:22.560 But we're just just sitting there, waiting, lurking, and nice call from PMAs to HALES. 06:03:22.560 --> 06:03:26.560 We're not running for the sake. We're just gonna kill them this way. 06:03:29.560 --> 06:03:32.560 Alright, we'll try to make some calls as he's dying. 06:03:32.560 --> 06:03:36.560 Let's take Aurora while I try and get out of the map again and use this net when this leaves what they've got. 06:03:36.560 --> 06:03:39.560 Clearing into the bottom tier 2 tower. 06:03:39.560 --> 06:03:42.560 Quick snatch and grab on to got the juice. 06:03:42.560 --> 06:03:47.560 Oh yes, the man has to done it, but unfortunately, it does not save you from coil-ins. 06:03:51.560 --> 06:03:53.560 Straight back to Fresken's objectives. 06:03:54.560 --> 06:04:00.560 Will be aggs for Nightfall, just so he has the security of being able to get that ult off no matter what gets thrown against him here. 06:04:01.560 --> 06:04:06.560 Nice tool against this Magnus and Void for sure. No real silences in this lineup. 06:04:06.560 --> 06:04:12.600 in this lineup. It was always a huge window as well with chrono, rp, kisses down. You got 06:04:12.600 --> 06:04:17.640 a minute or two and get Rorick and exploit. So it will be voidspear daggs. So you love 06:04:17.640 --> 06:04:22.040 that silence? I'll show you the guns here, okay. 06:04:22.040 --> 06:04:25.040 Oh yeah. 06:04:25.040 --> 06:04:34.000 Well they're enjoying themselves. It's not an easy game. It's not like some players are 06:04:34.000 --> 06:04:39.380 noticing with some some big guns out there you know what I'm saying who's got 06:04:39.380 --> 06:04:47.120 the biggest tall tall is up there sure is the Quincy beefing up 06:04:47.120 --> 06:04:52.960 yeah power to him he's not up there but he's not a player anymore I think 06:04:52.960 --> 06:04:59.140 iceberg is a box oh my god yeah destroy him and Pikachu his brother 06:04:59.140 --> 06:05:02.820 right those two are massive bees 06:05:04.000 --> 06:05:08.160 Big boys, but most of them are scrawny little bitches. So that's how he sports goes, you know 06:05:10.900 --> 06:05:13.400 And who's the strongest you've played with 06:05:17.200 --> 06:05:20.100 Most of the strength we talk about in NA teams is mental strength 06:05:23.040 --> 06:05:26.240 Trying to last three pubs try and survive 06:05:27.400 --> 06:05:32.680 Right now that's the NA Dota experience right there. What's great until it doesn't a 06:05:32.680 --> 06:05:35.680 A lot of great history though, you know. 06:05:36.680 --> 06:05:38.680 Can't have a boat place. 06:05:39.680 --> 06:05:41.680 I don't know about teams that perform very well. 06:05:46.680 --> 06:05:47.680 Oh! 06:05:47.680 --> 06:05:49.680 When you get down, the mother to tell you... 06:05:49.680 --> 06:05:51.680 The lion lion right there doesn't happen. 06:05:51.680 --> 06:05:54.680 Set the hell, set the hell, you stupid duck! 06:05:55.680 --> 06:05:56.680 Get off our screens! 06:05:56.680 --> 06:05:58.680 Golem get you gone! 06:05:58.680 --> 06:06:00.680 That was a classic meme actually. 06:06:00.680 --> 06:06:06.680 I feel bad for every time I see that, but it's such a classic meme, it's like, well, what do you do? 06:06:06.680 --> 06:06:09.680 He's made his mark on Dota history. 06:06:09.680 --> 06:06:10.680 Oh, for sure. 06:06:10.680 --> 06:06:13.680 And the annals of the Reddit lore, we will survive. 06:06:13.680 --> 06:06:17.680 We can only all hope to reach such heights. 06:06:17.680 --> 06:06:19.680 Maybe you'll have a classic meme someday. 06:06:19.680 --> 06:06:21.680 Yeah, I mean, Insightjokes are great, I love them. 06:06:21.680 --> 06:06:22.680 Gary gets you gone. 06:06:22.680 --> 06:06:25.680 I'd be loved to be involved in Insightjoke one day. 06:06:25.680 --> 06:06:28.680 You say that, but when it happens... 06:06:28.680 --> 06:06:32.680 There's my really cry. Yeah. 06:06:34.680 --> 06:06:37.680 Come back into things. Hope this doesn't ruin the rhythm for Aurora. 06:06:37.680 --> 06:06:40.680 Looks like the soul's sitting and farming. 06:06:40.680 --> 06:06:45.680 Not really pressing the advantage on the map, so it gives a better room here for Nami to farm. 06:06:45.680 --> 06:06:48.680 Why don't they put that Roshan timer into the cycle. 06:06:48.680 --> 06:06:50.680 I'll see how fast it is here. 06:06:50.680 --> 06:06:53.680 If you're Aurora. 34 seconds. 06:06:53.680 --> 06:06:59.400 Give me the quick spawn. The Agz is done for Nico. Actually, I have himself a pretty good game, all things considered. 06:06:59.400 --> 06:07:06.520 So I now have some threat on the puck, more disruption to fight, a little more threat on this Ursa, because he is going the Agz and not the BKB. 06:07:06.520 --> 06:07:14.680 Though, are you going to be able to line up Krono or RP with the Voidsphere's silence? That could be a little tricky. Execution on that is pretty high. 06:07:14.680 --> 06:07:22.680 Roche, I'm already alive. Less than 20 seconds respawn time, I think it's 7 or 17 seconds. 06:07:22.680 --> 06:07:32.680 Already back up, nighttime, bottom Roche. They are going to wait for her sags here, but then I expect Aurora to super-prioritize this. 06:07:32.680 --> 06:07:42.680 They're going to try and use this moment to get out and strike the hoodwink. Mira's going to get jumped in that bottom lane. 06:07:42.680 --> 06:07:44.920 This is deja vu, it's the same thing that they did before, right? 06:07:44.920 --> 06:07:48.280 It's a smoking to kill, but do they have a second smoke to go for more? 06:07:48.280 --> 06:07:50.280 They've been popping a lot here. 06:07:50.280 --> 06:07:52.680 They're getting to some other crimes though. 06:07:53.680 --> 06:07:55.680 They have the BKV on the Magnus, 06:07:55.680 --> 06:07:58.680 working towards the BKV on the Phasos Void. 06:07:59.680 --> 06:08:03.680 I think they would be happy to take a structured 5 on 5 with everything up. 06:08:03.680 --> 06:08:08.180 I don't think they're afraid of the actual 5 on 5, it's just being able to start it on good terms. 06:08:08.180 --> 06:08:11.680 Because so far, most of the initiations have been the way of Aurora, 06:08:11.680 --> 06:08:20.680 And once that happens, you just get nightfall in there, coil a couple of these heroes, you drop Solar Guardian, you drop Egg, that fight's gonna look real nasty, real fast. 06:08:20.680 --> 06:08:28.680 So jump number one, lanes across rivers, try and get the juice out of here as you push that additional top wave to try and open the map for them. 06:08:28.680 --> 06:08:30.680 And it's like eight out of there as well. 06:08:30.680 --> 06:08:32.680 Base trade, furb cell. 06:08:32.680 --> 06:08:34.680 Tons of it. 06:08:34.680 --> 06:08:39.680 So if he goes and rejoins his team though, because Roshan is imminent. 06:08:39.680 --> 06:08:41.680 The TP to shift into mid, if need be. 06:08:43.680 --> 06:08:45.680 And Roshan is still nestled in that bottom pit. 06:08:46.680 --> 06:08:51.680 Yeah, if you can keep these lanes out, make sure there isn't that long angle for Aurora to get a kill before Rosh. 06:08:51.680 --> 06:08:53.680 You can have that standoff. 06:08:53.680 --> 06:08:55.680 It feels like that was ideal for Navi. 06:08:55.680 --> 06:08:57.680 Having some kind of standoff or a wraparound. 06:08:58.680 --> 06:09:00.680 100%. Also keeping their wards up. 06:09:00.680 --> 06:09:03.680 They'll line up really once the fight around Observer wards. 06:09:06.680 --> 06:09:08.680 Just don't get baited by illusions. 06:09:09.680 --> 06:09:12.560 They're gonna curse them like that dude, that's pretty brutal. 06:09:12.560 --> 06:09:14.560 They're the ones cronoying us now. 06:09:14.560 --> 06:09:16.560 Hell yeah, they're just gonna cronoy the illusion. 06:09:16.560 --> 06:09:18.560 Nah, our face is forwarded on the other side of the map 06:09:18.560 --> 06:09:20.060 and they see both of them. 06:09:20.060 --> 06:09:21.060 That dire ward. 06:09:22.260 --> 06:09:23.860 Oh my god, solid idea. 06:09:23.860 --> 06:09:25.060 These aren't real. 06:09:26.060 --> 06:09:27.560 Now he's gonna fall for it. 06:09:29.060 --> 06:09:32.060 For now Aurora, decisions to be made. 06:09:32.060 --> 06:09:34.560 Top lane's being pushed pretty hard. 06:09:34.560 --> 06:09:36.560 Navi have evacuated their ancient area 06:09:36.560 --> 06:09:38.560 so there aren't any targets to kill first 06:09:38.560 --> 06:09:44.760 us before Roshan can be attempted. Again, very good defensive posturing from Navi. 06:09:44.760 --> 06:09:49.360 I'm not losing a lot here though. They lose opportunity. Dead boys here, they didn't get 06:09:49.360 --> 06:09:53.080 a single fight out of it against his puck before his VKB is done. These are those kind 06:09:53.080 --> 06:09:56.840 of little windows that... I'm sure you're going to continue to scale this, but because 06:09:56.840 --> 06:10:00.600 you were so far behind, you're not gaining an advantage with it, and now you're just 06:10:00.600 --> 06:10:04.400 going to have to kiss the second Roshan goodbye, which I think was inevitable. Again, this 06:10:04.400 --> 06:10:07.360 was a fucking commercial, it's a plane stage. I felt like you were going to lose both these 06:10:07.360 --> 06:10:09.360 first two rushons no matter what. 06:10:09.360 --> 06:10:11.360 I'm just looking to get a Coil at the boomerang. 06:10:11.360 --> 06:10:15.360 Oh my god, Invigorated A.O.E. to land down and crash onto Niku. 06:10:15.360 --> 06:10:19.360 They do lose a core kill and the rush out at the same time. 06:10:19.360 --> 06:10:23.360 That's the last thing you want to see here. 06:10:23.360 --> 06:10:28.360 Just walk positioning-wise, they couldn't get to the rush pit. 06:10:28.360 --> 06:10:30.360 Just couldn't contest. 06:10:30.360 --> 06:10:36.360 It's too hard to get the lanes out and force Aurora to split or show heroes anywhere that leads to a pick-off. 06:10:36.360 --> 06:10:41.360 It's just Ursa in there solo, so all of your AoE teamfight that's normally greater on the pit, 06:10:41.360 --> 06:10:45.360 it doesn't do anything for you in this game because it's just gonna be Ursa in the pit solo. 06:10:45.360 --> 06:10:47.360 You need to see stuff first. 06:10:47.360 --> 06:10:50.360 Hold to that cases, wait and see what comes your way. 06:10:50.360 --> 06:10:52.360 Kite out Nightfall. 06:10:52.360 --> 06:10:54.360 I'm not taking his head on anymore. 06:10:54.360 --> 06:10:57.360 Get in the voids, finding farm in this game. 06:10:57.360 --> 06:10:59.360 We're seeing how to use Climb this leaderboard. 06:10:59.360 --> 06:11:01.360 Now to the third item here in the BKB. 06:11:01.360 --> 06:11:03.360 He has the survivability now. 06:11:03.360 --> 06:11:05.360 Assuming Ursa doesn't munch his lunch. 06:11:05.360 --> 06:11:10.040 his lunch now he's gonna get some damage up really feels like he's one core 06:11:10.040 --> 06:11:13.400 against three though so I'm break his top of the net worth 06:11:13.400 --> 06:11:19.100 WOS is out there with Sandin Yasha now completed he's a big boy he's huge almost 06:11:19.100 --> 06:11:23.680 4,000 HP on this guy and he's he can't be the biggest priority in the fight 06:11:23.680 --> 06:11:29.080 either so she should have mostly free reign to do what he wants even if you 06:11:29.080 --> 06:11:31.840 want to do that classic and you're hot the doorbreakers that you can't tell the 06:11:31.840 --> 06:11:35.220 Guardian very difficult to kill anyway. It's tough 06:11:37.760 --> 06:11:39.760 Dior vision could be protected by Navi 06:11:41.040 --> 06:11:43.040 Sit under the little high ground 06:11:44.560 --> 06:11:51.180 Or have swept through killed off all the jungle caps taken all the high-value land and territory away from you 06:11:54.000 --> 06:11:59.040 Backing up into a bit of Dior vision, but it's like they're okay to settle on a staircase 06:11:59.040 --> 06:12:05.480 have to respect the cliffs in this game. Those are the spots you're potentially 06:12:05.480 --> 06:12:09.120 gonna lose a fight on if you run into a cliff board. There's not many of them left in Dota, 06:12:09.120 --> 06:12:13.240 but the equivalent of what a cliff board used to be right here. These spots where you know 06:12:13.240 --> 06:12:18.120 Navier are likely standing up are very strong defensive ops on a champion. Just be wary of 06:12:18.120 --> 06:12:20.040 those uphills. 06:12:20.040 --> 06:12:24.600 Horsen of Aniku there, he starts with the puck on the way in, but Makoto still didn't chase him. 06:12:25.320 --> 06:12:29.880 Can he yule some stuff out of this? Does a hex turn around, will a bushwhack arrive with a boomerang as well? 06:12:30.280 --> 06:12:36.200 He yules flies a bit of time to jump away from WS, but a BKB puck diving in and looking for this. 06:12:36.200 --> 06:12:41.000 Nightball has found the angle. It's a pinch into the back, kill off the void spirit. 06:12:43.320 --> 06:12:48.600 Makoto showing he's pretty happy just to press that BKB and run straight at you. 06:12:48.600 --> 06:12:51.600 I don't avoid through the eyes, there's no threat on this puck. He's chilling. 06:12:53.100 --> 06:13:02.600 I've got the juice also being run at. Every time you show up on the map, multiple Aurora heroes coming away attempt to get turned around though with the snap fly in the face of Void. 06:13:02.600 --> 06:13:07.600 Got to respect the answer though from Aurora. You know the solar garden is up. 06:13:07.600 --> 06:13:13.600 Nightfall can keep making the jump. The puck has been cron out though, and there's the ulti from Dawnbreaker and the damage is lacking. 06:13:13.600 --> 06:13:20.300 Try and skewer in with an RP, PMA, BKB's up, holding his ulti, doesn't cast it, so now it's pre-range for Nightfall 06:13:20.300 --> 06:13:22.800 Just to jump in onto the face of void, so now Riddies 06:13:23.300 --> 06:13:25.300 KMA's got to get the hell out of here now 06:13:25.800 --> 06:13:27.300 That was not it 06:13:28.000 --> 06:13:33.220 You get a chrono on puk, it's kind of the dream, but of course solar guardian pushwack gets thrown in 06:13:33.220 --> 06:13:39.300 He doesn't BKB early enough and he had a shield, so yeah, not the moment to try and look for that opportunity 06:13:39.300 --> 06:13:42.100 Especially with voidscrew dead, your follow-up is really minimal there 06:13:42.100 --> 06:13:46.660 There's a little bash coming out this time on WS, just trying to make this void to light 06:13:46.660 --> 06:13:47.660 hell. 06:13:47.660 --> 06:13:51.620 Navi, the one's running out of time here to put something together. 06:13:51.620 --> 06:13:52.700 Who's he? 06:13:52.700 --> 06:13:53.700 Too much map? 06:13:53.700 --> 06:13:56.700 Not getting enough out of these ulti. 06:13:56.700 --> 06:13:58.700 Wow, it's not fucking Aurora. 06:13:58.700 --> 06:14:01.700 I don't know why they've been playing. 06:14:01.700 --> 06:14:05.700 It's a bunch of network just flowing into them. 06:14:05.700 --> 06:14:10.420 VKB up first sir, a minute left on Aegis, another tier 2 tower. 06:14:10.420 --> 06:14:14.960 Opens up the opportunity for Aurora to go multiple lanes for high ground. 06:14:14.960 --> 06:14:19.960 I'm shaming with the next version. 06:14:19.960 --> 06:14:22.320 Now Navi does still have RP and kisses. 06:14:22.320 --> 06:14:26.060 It's very difficult to launch yourself head on into a flight right now. 06:14:26.060 --> 06:14:30.320 The green lights are all up for the radiant. 06:14:30.320 --> 06:14:32.880 Look at Fuzzy Wuzzy go. 06:14:32.880 --> 06:14:34.880 Nice charging straight in. 06:14:34.880 --> 06:14:37.880 Fuzzy Wuzzy has no fear. 06:14:37.880 --> 06:14:40.880 I don't want to shoot thee. 06:14:40.880 --> 06:14:44.880 There's not much room for him. 06:14:44.880 --> 06:14:47.880 That's a little teddy bear picnic this bottom lane. 06:14:47.880 --> 06:14:52.880 You're just going to run out here at least 20 seconds. 06:14:52.880 --> 06:14:55.880 Pretty good ages period here for a war. 06:14:55.880 --> 06:14:59.320 It's like double their advantage, you know, torment, they're out of the tube, 06:14:59.320 --> 06:15:01.720 I thought she was clearing through objectives of the game. 06:15:01.720 --> 06:15:03.720 The ideal Ursa game. 06:15:03.720 --> 06:15:05.720 And punk has been... 06:15:05.720 --> 06:15:07.720 I'd upload... 06:15:07.720 --> 06:15:11.720 Didn't want to say the word court, because the turnaround is actually here from the... 06:15:11.720 --> 06:15:14.520 The waitgum is still in the garden, back onto Riddies. 06:15:14.520 --> 06:15:17.640 Lion falls away while the focus really is on that voice spirit. 06:15:17.640 --> 06:15:20.200 Slammed into the ground by Miran WS. 06:15:20.200 --> 06:15:25.160 It feels like the script has slipped from that game one, where the koto on the puck game one... 06:15:25.160 --> 06:15:28.760 Just too many layered answers to his hero in this game, if he's like Niku, 06:15:28.760 --> 06:15:33.480 he can dodge some of the controls here, but there's just so much follow-up on the initial coil then. 06:15:34.920 --> 06:15:39.400 That's all it takes. Every coil, every swinging rip into whatever hoodwink follow-up, 06:15:39.960 --> 06:15:42.280 then you have solar garden coming down, then you're getting bashed. 06:15:42.280 --> 06:15:42.920 Ornithnath. 06:15:42.920 --> 06:15:46.920 Yeah, it's just, there's too many layers for you to have to deal with. There's no good itemization 06:15:46.920 --> 06:15:47.640 path right here. 06:15:49.480 --> 06:15:53.560 Hey, you bought these BKBs to try and do something? Well, I guess Void Spray is still 06:15:53.560 --> 06:15:54.920 Trying to get to his. 06:15:54.920 --> 06:15:58.600 But Magnus in the face of the Voyager, we've not been able to accomplish much with theirs. 06:15:58.600 --> 06:16:02.920 It's gonna have to be some really nice teamfight spell casting, probably on the high ground. 06:16:04.040 --> 06:16:05.000 Skewer's back. 06:16:05.000 --> 06:16:10.040 Yeah, exactly. Classic Magnus gameplay. Maybe get that clutch skewer or a Hornsaw skewer. 06:16:14.440 --> 06:16:16.760 I don't think I'm going to rush too much for a rush to go high ground though. 06:16:16.760 --> 06:16:17.720 I'm just going to deposit you. 06:16:17.720 --> 06:16:20.200 If you come out on the map, they'll kill you, maybe consider it. 06:16:20.200 --> 06:16:33.120 They're going double Abyssal here, so they're going to have Eul's on Hoogling plus double 06:16:33.120 --> 06:16:37.120 Abyssal between the Ursa and the Dawn, which means when that Magnus goes in to try and 06:16:37.120 --> 06:16:41.880 land some big RP, even if you get it, there's a high chain, you might get Abyssal, Solar 06:16:41.880 --> 06:16:46.520 Guardian can come down, you get Eul's on the jump, and if you don't BKB, there's a lot 06:16:46.520 --> 06:16:49.960 to interrupt in this line of a lot of chain lock down if they can catch the 06:16:49.960 --> 06:16:53.200 void first that's always a dream 06:16:55.520 --> 06:16:59.600 I was just so bad when you're on the back foot like this hiding your base 06:16:59.600 --> 06:17:03.460 good time to think about stuff though you know you're bored though didn't you what 06:17:03.460 --> 06:17:06.040 am I gonna eat for dinner 06:17:06.040 --> 06:17:10.280 yes I was just thinking about sticking in base I thought I saw these old games and 06:17:10.280 --> 06:17:12.960 you're just watching your void farm and you know you're never getting another 06:17:12.960 --> 06:17:15.320 lane creep again like yours lying in this game 06:17:15.320 --> 06:17:17.920 You know to you that's what riddus is leaning on right now. It's like damn 06:17:19.440 --> 06:17:20.940 I can go for some 06:17:20.940 --> 06:17:26.560 At least New York style pizza right now. Oh, yeah, I have to watch this boy clear another camp in front of my face 06:17:28.320 --> 06:17:30.920 Salivating watching him kill neutral creeps Faker 06:17:31.800 --> 06:17:33.800 Wireless mouse disconnects. He told you someone's 06:17:34.880 --> 06:17:38.760 Oh my head says rock and roll and it's mirror 06:17:40.240 --> 06:17:42.240 Rub salt in the wound like eyes 06:17:42.840 --> 06:17:46.120 It's always headset to give them time to think about the mess there in 06:17:48.600 --> 06:17:50.680 That should always reminds me of back in the day 06:17:51.440 --> 06:17:53.440 DDC silence are sitting in fountain 06:17:54.120 --> 06:18:00.620 Literally waiting for 20 minutes to press his ulti so he didn't feed you like 013 or something 06:18:00.880 --> 06:18:06.240 DDC silence for those of the days to generate ass call throwback is that here? 06:18:06.240 --> 06:18:08.680 Oh my god, like I may as well say I don't have a rise of 06:18:08.680 --> 06:18:14.760 the days when the MMY tinker are playing mid and just filing on kids. Yeah, you know your 06:18:14.760 --> 06:18:20.600 memes. I've been around. You're an old school Dota fan. A man of culture. Chinese Dota for 06:18:20.600 --> 06:18:26.920 many, many years. Chinese Dota has a lot of really nice old school memes. Not like this 06:18:26.920 --> 06:18:33.400 New Age duck track. Get it off my screen. Why don't you put an MNY up there? Yeah. That 06:18:33.400 --> 06:18:41.160 would be impressive where is he going through now it's Lord McCottenham 06:18:41.160 --> 06:18:46.840 long ago bar present going mallard the coat or in the dock Martin the mallard 06:18:46.840 --> 06:18:51.600 has arrived yes given point of the person who has ruined their heads yet 06:18:51.600 --> 06:18:55.880 no more disconnecting please rejoin the game 06:18:55.880 --> 06:19:02.160 Oh no. I thought maybe they'd get back into it but WS doesn't know he needs a bit more 06:19:02.160 --> 06:19:09.720 time. Go through the game plan. Think about how they approach this. Probably the same 06:19:09.720 --> 06:19:17.320 as they've been approaching it. Go kill Roshan. I'm telling you it's some mouse headset. I 06:19:17.320 --> 06:19:21.520 don't know. I didn't get it Gary. I never had that. My prediction skills, they're off 06:19:21.520 --> 06:19:27.600 today I'm lucky you try like seven times mouse headset think about pizza well 06:19:27.600 --> 06:19:31.240 the real reason is always some like real-life thing they always lie cat at 06:19:31.240 --> 06:19:37.000 door is what you supposed to say it's like prove it you know it's always like 06:19:37.000 --> 06:19:43.720 girlfriend calling or your mom's calling deliveries arrived I get my Uber 06:19:43.720 --> 06:19:49.720 eats I guess I should rub them directly no no get them to sponsor first an 06:19:49.720 --> 06:19:51.720 an unknown delivery man at my door. 06:19:51.720 --> 06:19:52.720 Other... see, yeah. 06:19:52.720 --> 06:19:53.720 We'll be unbranded. 06:19:53.720 --> 06:19:55.720 Yeah, if you're on the BBC, you have to say, 06:19:55.720 --> 06:19:58.720 other options are available if you do accidentally mention a brand. 06:19:58.720 --> 06:20:00.720 That's all right. 06:20:01.720 --> 06:20:03.720 Big smoke from Nervy. 06:20:03.720 --> 06:20:05.720 Yeah, butterfly on the void. 06:20:05.720 --> 06:20:08.720 Scan doesn't connect. 06:20:08.720 --> 06:20:11.720 And W.S. Floyd back in his base as well. 06:20:11.720 --> 06:20:13.720 This is the classic hunt-the-dawn-breaker move, 06:20:13.720 --> 06:20:15.720 and they see empty camps knowing... 06:20:15.720 --> 06:20:17.720 You had a lot of time to take that too, to be fair. 06:20:17.720 --> 06:20:22.720 He's post. Pause, smokes are really weird. 06:20:22.720 --> 06:20:32.720 They usually either do completely nothing, or it's the largest momentum in game swing of all time. There's no in between. 06:20:32.720 --> 06:20:36.720 Pretty long rushways, Fallen. Niko with the quick fingers there. 06:20:36.720 --> 06:20:40.720 Pull the trigger on the dual-stab. Let's just stop the Earths that are arriving. 06:20:40.720 --> 06:20:42.720 Still coming, though. 06:20:42.720 --> 06:20:47.840 What's the big ATV as a voice for the nightfall? Nobody's out there. Oh, not get bashed 06:20:49.140 --> 06:20:51.140 That's color 06:20:53.380 --> 06:20:57.840 Opportunistic you think there's a little bit of insult night falling in front of night falling 06:20:58.600 --> 06:21:00.920 They used your signature move against you. I 06:21:01.920 --> 06:21:05.960 Don't think it'd be insulted. I think it's a little rice mile in this face. Give a thumbs up there 06:21:05.960 --> 06:21:10.340 I see what you did there respect our respect. You made this I made this 06:21:10.340 --> 06:21:16.100 the inventor it's like everybody laughs at it till you got to do it 06:21:16.100 --> 06:21:20.100 not so funny how's it feel now 06:21:20.100 --> 06:21:24.100 cover bands start starting covers of your music are pretty happy about that 06:21:24.100 --> 06:21:26.420 what's fun is they don't get more popular than me 06:21:26.420 --> 06:21:30.100 we should be paying in royalties every time you we can be TP out and I fall 06:21:30.100 --> 06:21:34.180 gets a dollar that's what this game is royalties for nightfall 06:21:34.180 --> 06:21:38.100 he's collecting right now that's for sure 22k lead 06:21:38.100 --> 06:21:41.780 We lose days and PMA got the juice. 06:21:41.780 --> 06:21:43.700 They're in an interesting spot here. 06:21:43.700 --> 06:21:45.100 What is going on here? 06:21:45.100 --> 06:21:49.300 Parallel with Aurora, kinda behind them, but you're on the hood, mate. 06:21:49.300 --> 06:21:51.460 We've got the juices clipped and PKB'd. 06:21:51.460 --> 06:21:53.940 Don't break your arrives with their supernova on top. 06:21:53.940 --> 06:21:55.500 They'll take down Riddies. 06:21:55.500 --> 06:21:58.620 Mirror's killed off, but that's all you get as an RV. 06:21:58.620 --> 06:22:00.540 Got the squirrel, time to bail. 06:22:00.540 --> 06:22:02.060 Gotta catch on this putt, though. 06:22:02.060 --> 06:22:04.020 McArna may be going a little bit too deep. 06:22:04.020 --> 06:22:05.260 It's fake-bombing the RP. 06:22:05.260 --> 06:22:10.260 Nightfall's in with the stuns to stop TMA from catching his mid, and a stolen guard in the heel of the pot. 06:22:10.260 --> 06:22:11.460 The damage not enough! 06:22:11.460 --> 06:22:13.460 Oh, Link, who comes in with a final touch. 06:22:13.460 --> 06:22:20.260 Just about taking Makoto down, and now, hang on a second, they're in the fountain, being dragged back towards the base. 06:22:20.260 --> 06:22:25.960 WS, let's go hammer, BKB, run it back, try and get through the back, or he'll keep you out of the bash. 06:22:25.960 --> 06:22:31.460 Look at this, he's about to catch this Stormbreaker, hold her in a track, and WS is gonna die. 06:22:32.260 --> 06:22:33.460 The false prophet. 06:22:33.460 --> 06:22:38.860 He said the nightfall works every time but it betrayed him 06:22:41.900 --> 06:22:45.580 Is that a throw Gary? I don't know it kind of felt like a little bit of stuff. That's a pretty big throw 06:22:45.580 --> 06:22:50.100 Yeah, like how do we end up fighting behind tier 4s? That was the fight he chose to take 06:22:50.100 --> 06:22:56.140 Was the roach coming off in 10 seconds here? A little forced. 4 and a half thousand that was swing. A little forced 06:22:56.140 --> 06:23:01.720 You got Jim out of that. You got a couple big kills as dawnbreakers off the map forever because he's so damn high level 06:23:01.720 --> 06:23:04.120 Right, the spaces will get injured here. 06:23:04.120 --> 06:23:06.240 This is unacceptable, you're right here. 06:23:06.240 --> 06:23:07.480 You're supposed to contest this. 06:23:07.480 --> 06:23:09.640 A thousand percent, they have no chrono. 06:23:10.520 --> 06:23:14.040 You can buy the dawn, and you absolutely should buy the dawn to take this away. 06:23:14.600 --> 06:23:16.440 I'll deal all these ready in two seconds, 06:23:16.440 --> 06:23:17.960 because I can buy and sell the Guardian in. 06:23:17.960 --> 06:23:18.640 Yep. 06:23:18.640 --> 06:23:21.440 There's no way you should ever get boarded ages in this game. 06:23:21.920 --> 06:23:22.720 Mira. 06:23:23.480 --> 06:23:24.320 Okay. 06:23:25.560 --> 06:23:27.560 There's a lot of damage actually to the Magnus. 06:23:27.560 --> 06:23:28.480 Turned to half. 06:23:29.040 --> 06:23:30.640 The Groshan's dying. 06:23:30.640 --> 06:23:31.440 Gotta go. 06:23:31.440 --> 06:23:34.000 No doorbreaker yet. Fire Spirit's into the pit. 06:23:34.000 --> 06:23:34.640 Gotta go. 06:23:34.640 --> 06:23:39.640 Roshan's fallen, Aegis grabbed Jaff and Mera he jumped in to die in the midst of Na'Vi. 06:23:39.640 --> 06:23:42.440 They all surround the squirrel. She's gone for a minute. 06:23:42.440 --> 06:23:42.940 Oh. 06:23:42.940 --> 06:23:43.940 Come back time. 06:23:44.740 --> 06:23:46.340 Yeah, this team... 06:23:47.340 --> 06:23:51.340 Looking up for Na'Vi all of a sudden. They even get some D-Words using that gem. 06:23:53.640 --> 06:23:54.440 Whoa! 06:23:54.440 --> 06:23:57.040 I don't know what's happening. We're in the Upside Dattle all of a sudden. 06:23:57.040 --> 06:24:03.840 Well, this is going to be a nice ages period for Navi. This relieves a lot of pressure in terms of them gaining out the lanes. 06:24:03.840 --> 06:24:05.840 Like, they're going to claim a tier one here at 40 minutes. 06:24:05.840 --> 06:24:08.840 That's got ages for freshers and cheese. Thank you for putting Roche on. 06:24:08.840 --> 06:24:09.340 That's true. 06:24:09.340 --> 06:24:11.840 We've cooled down so many times. We've got the third one for ourselves. 06:24:11.840 --> 06:24:16.840 And our freshershort is so big for this line. That was not the Roche on to give away. 06:24:16.840 --> 06:24:18.840 Goodness. 06:24:18.840 --> 06:24:21.840 And more importantly, he took it away from Aurora. 06:24:21.840 --> 06:24:24.340 He's like, that's how Roche is supposed to end the game. 06:24:24.340 --> 06:24:28.340 Because you're accelerating them and you're playing off the Earth's timing, now it's kind of out the window. 06:24:28.940 --> 06:24:30.940 Scotty done, forgot the juice. 06:24:32.040 --> 06:24:36.140 These are not the line-up you want to be throwing those bad teamfights away. 06:24:36.540 --> 06:24:39.640 This guy's just such a classic face-to-foil thing, spell his-ness, like, 06:24:39.640 --> 06:24:41.340 okay, we're losing, we're losing, we're losing. 06:24:41.340 --> 06:24:43.440 40 minutes in, hang on, one good fight. 06:24:43.440 --> 06:24:44.040 Yep, full test. 06:24:44.040 --> 06:24:45.340 This 14k lead... 06:24:46.140 --> 06:24:47.840 Is it meaningless? 06:24:48.740 --> 06:24:49.240 It's... 06:24:49.740 --> 06:24:52.340 Not 100% meaningless, but it is. 06:24:52.340 --> 06:24:55.340 Not meaningful, I'll put it that way. 06:24:56.340 --> 06:25:00.340 In a straight 5 on 5, you're not that favorite anymore. 06:25:00.340 --> 06:25:02.340 You don't feel it? 06:25:03.340 --> 06:25:05.340 Knifel's finished off an MKB. 06:25:06.340 --> 06:25:15.340 It's also the Dawnbreaker's network. A lot of this is through WSB Mega Fab, but the void actually is unplayable in the leaky. 06:25:15.340 --> 06:25:18.340 Like there's nothing you can do as a dawn against the void really. 06:25:18.340 --> 06:25:19.340 avoid really. 06:25:19.340 --> 06:25:20.340 I've got a catch on him. 06:25:20.340 --> 06:25:23.340 Heads into the mash, but the fuel step is there. 06:25:23.340 --> 06:25:25.340 Cookie and a time warp. 06:25:25.340 --> 06:25:28.340 He has some out of danger and they're still holding this chrono. 06:25:28.340 --> 06:25:33.340 I don't know how they want it to, but Na'Vi is going to be disciplined. 06:25:33.340 --> 06:25:36.340 Get back to that top lane, push out waves. 06:25:36.340 --> 06:25:39.340 It's kind of interesting they didn't look for something more there with skewer backs 06:25:39.340 --> 06:25:43.340 or like a reinitiation or something, because you're pretty strong right now 06:25:43.340 --> 06:25:46.340 with all the ults up, you have that refresher shard. 06:25:46.340 --> 06:25:53.340 Maybe just wait for faceless void 25. Really strong challenge in this game. 06:25:59.340 --> 06:26:05.340 Top of the network, sure. But he's got to finish off this swift blink, and then he's pretty much slotted. 06:26:05.340 --> 06:26:13.340 Curious hex was pretty cool to start things off there, but he needs so much more follow through to kill off a void. 06:26:13.340 --> 06:26:17.540 It's a long break of this little... isn't that far away? 06:26:17.540 --> 06:26:19.140 Do you want to skip out on buyback? 06:26:19.140 --> 06:26:21.140 What am I assuming you... 06:26:21.140 --> 06:26:25.140 If you're gonna go head on into these fights and I'll be straight on the Phoenix here to 06:26:25.140 --> 06:26:26.100 blow up... 06:26:26.100 --> 06:26:27.100 ...theory! 06:26:27.100 --> 06:26:28.100 Just RQM. 06:26:28.100 --> 06:26:31.740 And now map space to push out this tier two, man. 06:26:31.740 --> 06:26:34.340 You got the juice in front like this, having two minutes on age. 06:26:34.340 --> 06:26:36.340 It's pretty happy just to sit there and head build it. 06:26:36.340 --> 06:26:37.340 And that's his 25. 06:26:37.340 --> 06:26:39.340 Backtrack, hall line. 06:26:39.340 --> 06:26:41.340 Broken-ass talent. 06:26:43.340 --> 06:26:45.340 He's not main vulnerable. 06:26:45.340 --> 06:26:47.340 He's a problem. 06:26:47.340 --> 06:26:52.340 And he hasn't even really gone, you know, he had to skip the aggs type of build of this game, 06:26:52.340 --> 06:26:54.340 just so he could survive more of it. 06:26:54.340 --> 06:26:57.340 He gets an aggs in this game, it's gonna be an annoying issue in the fight. 06:26:57.340 --> 06:27:02.340 And there's a VKB used by the Arista, no spread of TP. 06:27:02.340 --> 06:27:05.340 But you're just spending things willy-nilly here as Aurora. 06:27:05.340 --> 06:27:08.340 I hear a lost there, a spell spent here. 06:27:08.340 --> 06:27:09.340 Those are big. 06:27:09.340 --> 06:27:13.820 Nobby have it. You know everything up. They still have a fresher shot on max. So there is an rp looming there 06:27:13.820 --> 06:27:15.100 They've done high ground? 06:27:15.100 --> 06:27:16.380 Why not? 06:27:16.380 --> 06:27:18.380 There's no way they get the first lane of baron. 06:27:18.380 --> 06:27:22.980 I hit her, dropped. It's looking like it. Aurora they have stumbled hard in this game 06:27:24.700 --> 06:27:26.700 They have to fight something. 06:27:28.700 --> 06:27:30.220 I have a pause. 06:27:30.220 --> 06:27:32.220 That was the server lag, I felt that was 06:27:32.620 --> 06:27:38.140 Ten seconds for the sort of 13 for this phoenix. Unlucky for some, we'll see if Aurora can bring him 06:27:38.140 --> 06:27:40.900 Back to the battlefield and get something done. 06:27:40.900 --> 06:27:42.600 That's the wait a little bit. 06:27:42.600 --> 06:27:44.940 Try and start this fight as the Phoenix is coming up. 06:27:44.940 --> 06:27:46.540 But your rat is gone. 06:27:46.540 --> 06:27:48.540 The building's dying. 06:27:48.540 --> 06:27:51.540 WS leading out. 06:27:51.540 --> 06:27:55.540 Navi have already stepped up the staircase. 06:27:55.540 --> 06:27:57.540 This mirror, he's gonna get all of us. 06:27:57.540 --> 06:27:59.540 He went back into the danger zone. 06:27:59.540 --> 06:28:00.540 Dead. 06:28:00.540 --> 06:28:02.040 With my back. 06:28:02.040 --> 06:28:03.540 That was fast for QA. 06:28:03.540 --> 06:28:04.540 So quick. 06:28:04.540 --> 06:28:08.540 And then Na'Vi again with the choices. 06:28:08.540 --> 06:28:10.540 Push out these lanes. 06:28:10.540 --> 06:28:12.540 Perfect position is dying to be in. 06:28:12.540 --> 06:28:14.540 Playing from enemy ancient spawn. 06:28:14.540 --> 06:28:16.540 Pivot from one lane to another. 06:28:16.540 --> 06:28:17.540 Top to mid. 06:28:17.540 --> 06:28:18.540 Got a lot of gold too. 06:28:18.540 --> 06:28:20.540 They have 6000 gold and got the juice. 06:28:20.540 --> 06:28:22.540 She wants to buy out for something else here. 06:28:22.540 --> 06:28:25.540 Yo, he could still go defense in this game with Lincoln's 06:28:25.540 --> 06:28:26.540 because they have so much damage now. 06:28:26.540 --> 06:28:28.540 He can go more aggressive with Bloodthorn. 06:28:28.540 --> 06:28:30.540 He could buy his own refresher. 06:28:30.540 --> 06:28:33.540 He can pay for the aggs and eat it. 06:28:33.540 --> 06:28:35.540 A lot of options here. 06:28:35.540 --> 06:28:37.540 The danger's expired. 06:28:37.540 --> 06:28:40.540 15k swing over the past couple of minutes. 06:28:40.540 --> 06:28:42.540 10k plus advantage out of that Aegis. 06:28:42.540 --> 06:28:45.540 Effectively way more too, because... 06:28:45.540 --> 06:28:47.540 Is that worth the void? 06:28:47.540 --> 06:28:52.540 Yeah, it's like the net worth on Navi counts for so much more here as we get closer. 06:28:52.540 --> 06:28:59.540 So I'm not saying that the lead was fake for Aurora, but once you lose it, it's way more difficult to get it back. 06:28:59.540 --> 06:29:01.540 That wind probability has inverted. 06:29:01.540 --> 06:29:02.540 Oh yeah. 06:29:02.540 --> 06:29:03.540 Nobby's favorite. 06:29:03.540 --> 06:29:05.540 Put Aurora down to 81 for an RV now. 06:29:05.540 --> 06:29:06.540 I mean, they're super favorite. 06:29:06.540 --> 06:29:10.540 They have a Magnus triple melee core lineup with faces pointing the way to it. 06:29:10.540 --> 06:29:13.540 I've never imagined a hacker like this, the first one. 06:29:13.540 --> 06:29:15.540 So it's 35 minutes of this game, maybe more? 06:29:15.540 --> 06:29:18.540 It was all that tier 4 dive, and you lost Roshan. 06:29:18.540 --> 06:29:20.540 Just one terrible sequence. 06:29:20.540 --> 06:29:22.540 Chucked it. 06:29:22.540 --> 06:29:25.540 Absolutely. Chucked it into the well with Jimmy. 06:29:25.540 --> 06:29:27.540 Oh, Jimmy. 06:29:27.540 --> 06:29:29.540 Why is it lasting when you need it? 06:29:29.540 --> 06:29:31.540 Not in this game. 06:29:32.540 --> 06:29:38.540 Oh, it's red. There's only one on the smoked. 06:29:38.540 --> 06:29:41.540 Might show him on the wave. 06:29:41.540 --> 06:29:44.540 Start with Riddies on this dumb break with a cannon PMA. 06:29:44.540 --> 06:29:47.540 Into the chrono, the kisses landing, solar garden, 06:29:47.540 --> 06:29:50.540 and problematic for Navi, though, with a stoopin' overlanding this chrono, 06:29:50.540 --> 06:29:53.540 and bites you in the backside! 06:29:53.540 --> 06:29:56.540 A failed execution from Navi. 06:29:56.540 --> 06:30:01.540 A star on Earth, though, but it can't completely turned on and wiped off the face of the map. 06:30:01.540 --> 06:30:04.700 That was not the chrono spear I 06:30:07.420 --> 06:30:09.420 Have to repeat that that was not 06:30:09.860 --> 06:30:11.860 The chrono to drop over Trecious 06:30:12.380 --> 06:30:16.140 Because the Ursa has acts he gets pulled off in that chrono 06:30:16.780 --> 06:30:21.980 And you get zero PKB's off if you're an obby you have three cores of PKB you got none of them off 06:30:21.980 --> 06:30:33.580 You just effectively cornered your entire team without getting your knees off, and then 06:30:33.580 --> 06:30:35.300 Aurora was able to pump everything on top. 06:30:35.300 --> 06:30:37.500 Now you have no buyback, even if you lose your lane of balance. 06:30:37.500 --> 06:30:41.900 That was one of the worst executions I think I've ever seen from a position of winning 06:30:41.900 --> 06:30:42.900 the game. 06:30:42.900 --> 06:30:47.340 They could taste victory, I know this is something. 06:30:47.340 --> 06:30:49.740 There's a lot of ways to take that fight. 06:30:49.740 --> 06:30:51.500 That is not one of them. 06:30:51.500 --> 06:30:55.180 You should just be looking for the skewerbacks, you know, he gets the Ursa and the skewerback, that's fine. 06:30:55.180 --> 06:30:56.680 Just play that a little slower. 06:30:56.680 --> 06:31:00.120 But 80% win problem, guys got a line back again. 06:31:00.120 --> 06:31:01.880 Swings and roundabouts. 06:31:01.880 --> 06:31:03.560 Kids play ground. 06:31:03.560 --> 06:31:07.160 I guess they were looking for Bloodthorn Silence into the stuns. 06:31:07.160 --> 06:31:11.320 I guess, but now, while losing Riddies here, Deadpool's lift up. 06:31:11.320 --> 06:31:15.840 They've got a skewerback in the fountain, Cookie's not gonna land though, and Macoto has the E on this to get out. 06:31:15.840 --> 06:31:19.240 Of the dangerous situation that he was in. 06:31:19.240 --> 06:31:24.240 And there's still 10 seconds with no void or void, tearfalls are dying and Throne's about to be exposed. 06:31:24.240 --> 06:31:34.240 Aurora not looking for the finishing touch on the buildings though, just gonna let Navi wallow in the mistakes from the disastrous actions that they put themselves in. 06:31:34.240 --> 06:31:35.240 And PMA starts it beautifully. 06:31:35.240 --> 06:31:38.240 But see, the nightfall got ult off during the skewer. 06:31:38.240 --> 06:31:42.240 And I think at that point you cannot just commit to this bloodthorn chrono idea. 06:31:42.240 --> 06:31:45.240 It's not good, especially with nobody pressing BKVs. 06:31:45.240 --> 06:31:48.240 There's way too much overcommittal on one guy here. 06:31:48.240 --> 06:31:51.840 Even in this scenario, let's say that goes perfectly, you have to assume that this horse has caught. 06:31:51.840 --> 06:31:52.340 Yeah. 06:31:52.640 --> 06:31:56.960 So let's say you kill him there, he buys, keeps these outposts, he's had a good fight in the long run, 06:31:56.960 --> 06:32:02.080 it still could be a terrible fight. So, that's why I say that idea is just not it. 06:32:02.800 --> 06:32:05.840 Even if the bloodthorne connection lands before the air salt goes off, which 06:32:06.640 --> 06:32:09.840 in theory is never supposed to happen there because you can always ult on that skewer. 06:32:11.360 --> 06:32:12.960 And we know it, they know it. 06:32:14.160 --> 06:32:16.960 Well, back up to 30k, it's like the throne never happened, look at that. 06:32:16.960 --> 06:32:20.460 What a nice, consistently solid game here from Aurora. 06:32:20.460 --> 06:32:24.460 Just ignore that little blip on the graph. 06:32:24.460 --> 06:32:26.460 Never happened. 06:32:26.460 --> 06:32:29.460 Now they have a full Wind Waker on Mira. 06:32:29.460 --> 06:32:35.460 So these supports are starting to bring a lot of extra network to the table, some saves into the mix, Aeon Disc on Pock. 06:32:38.460 --> 06:32:41.460 Oh, what an interesting game with Dota 2. 06:32:41.460 --> 06:32:45.460 Yeah, I'm just looking at that graph. I've never looked at the icons of the buildings in that graph. 06:32:45.460 --> 06:32:49.460 A lot of buildings went down. A lot of team gold. 06:32:49.460 --> 06:32:51.460 It's like a turkey in an oven. 06:32:53.460 --> 06:32:55.460 Smoke up from Aurora. 06:32:55.460 --> 06:32:57.460 It's still a minute to go for Aegis. 06:32:57.460 --> 06:33:02.460 Any kill here could secure victory for them though. 06:33:02.460 --> 06:33:07.460 We're currently looking at one dire hero with buyback and that's a snap fire. 06:33:07.460 --> 06:33:10.460 Fist of the Void has actually just gone his. 06:33:10.460 --> 06:33:13.460 Look for the gold coming his way. 06:33:13.460 --> 06:33:16.460 So got the juice, holding cheese, holding buyback, 06:33:16.460 --> 06:33:19.460 holding out hope for an attempt to pro-shan, 06:33:19.460 --> 06:33:21.460 because Makoto is going to make sure that life isn't easy. 06:33:21.460 --> 06:33:23.460 Chronosphere catches him and the Phoenix, though, 06:33:23.460 --> 06:33:25.460 has got the juice for the health of the Kisses. 06:33:25.460 --> 06:33:27.460 He will step to the air though by some time, 06:33:27.460 --> 06:33:29.460 and got the juice gets turned on quickly. 06:33:29.460 --> 06:33:30.460 Surviving them out! 06:33:31.460 --> 06:33:33.460 Going for 100 seconds while the bashfuls... 06:33:33.460 --> 06:33:34.460 down. 06:33:34.460 --> 06:33:35.460 Nice day, snap fire. 06:33:36.460 --> 06:33:39.460 Narvi just getting dismantled one by one. 06:33:39.460 --> 06:33:45.460 Really nice jump from Nightfall there, he just jumps to the Magnus the whole time, forces 06:33:45.460 --> 06:33:48.460 out a bad RP, no follow-up on that chrono. 06:33:48.460 --> 06:33:51.460 Ah, the batch there on Niku too. 06:33:51.460 --> 06:33:55.460 Kill the line in the back line, there's WS and Kerrigo deep. 06:33:55.460 --> 06:33:56.460 Got the juice. 06:33:56.460 --> 06:33:58.460 Gonna try what he can with the cookies forward. 06:33:58.460 --> 06:34:01.460 Can't deal with WS though, this tanky dorm breaker. 06:34:01.460 --> 06:34:03.460 Face tanking everything. 06:34:03.460 --> 06:34:04.460 Run straight into the middle of three. 06:34:04.460 --> 06:34:06.460 Na'Vi, one nightfall, he's dealing with the buildings. 06:34:06.460 --> 06:34:08.460 Now he's on the voice for it, low. 06:34:08.460 --> 06:34:10.960 Niku, in a bit of trouble, we've got the juice. 06:34:10.960 --> 06:34:12.420 He just got only damage. 06:34:12.420 --> 06:34:13.620 Doesn't have a lockdown. 06:34:13.620 --> 06:34:14.420 That's just the game. 06:34:14.420 --> 06:34:15.580 Can't do it on his own. 06:34:15.580 --> 06:34:16.460 What the hell? 06:34:16.460 --> 06:34:17.460 GG gold. 06:34:18.720 --> 06:34:21.920 Okay, well, I thought Navi had come back into this. 06:34:23.660 --> 06:34:24.660 Yeah, very interesting. 06:34:24.660 --> 06:34:25.960 Game of Thrones there for sure. 06:34:25.960 --> 06:34:27.260 A little bit, no way around that. 06:34:27.260 --> 06:34:28.960 I think everybody in that game is gonna admit it. 06:34:30.620 --> 06:34:31.580 Well played by Aurora. 06:34:31.580 --> 06:34:34.960 I think they did ultimately do the correct things to win that game 06:34:34.960 --> 06:34:37.080 in terms of itemization, which is, again, we talked about 06:34:37.080 --> 06:34:40.760 if you're gonna go ulti-blade against this lineup, use their hope. I think the hope is an overwhelming 06:34:40.760 --> 06:34:44.920 gold advantage. Having the Wind Waker, which they had. Having the Hex Threat, which they had. 06:34:44.920 --> 06:34:49.080 Having the Abyssal, which they had. The Ags, DKB on the Ursa, which they had, right? They bought 06:34:49.080 --> 06:34:53.320 all the right items in this game. Did they throw it at some point? Yes. Overall, I deserve to win. 06:34:54.600 --> 06:34:57.640 I don't know if I'd say that. I feel like neither can really deserve to win. 06:34:58.760 --> 06:35:03.240 And I think if they both lose that game, we just replay Game 2. That's probably most just here, 06:35:03.240 --> 06:35:09.080 but uh it was overall better played by for the majority of them. Yeah, I mean this won't 06:35:09.080 --> 06:35:12.840 not be an early game, shut them down a lot. No, I did well to come back a little bit, 06:35:12.840 --> 06:35:15.560 but in the end it's won a piece as we head into game three. 06:35:18.200 --> 06:35:22.760 Which is not necessarily continuing the trend of a lot of our upper bracket spheres, 06:35:22.760 --> 06:35:27.080 it is on the mainstream because par vision and liquid did go the distance, 06:35:27.080 --> 06:35:32.440 but Falcons and Tundra that was a 2-0 for Falcons, Spirit and Bebombe that was a 2-0 for Spirit. 06:35:32.440 --> 06:35:38.440 This one, though, is going to distance, although it was touch-and-go for a moment, so I'll say this is where I get some Kronos. 06:35:38.440 --> 06:35:42.440 I was like, well, hold the phone there. Seems like Navi may still be in the scan. 06:35:42.440 --> 06:35:50.440 Yeah, I think he realized he heard T as a newer player as well. He heard that the more people you catch in Kronos, the better it is. 06:35:50.440 --> 06:35:52.440 It doesn't matter from which you buy. 06:35:52.440 --> 06:35:58.520 to the team mates, there was a five-man chrono in the end, the kind of be all end all type of chronos here 06:35:58.840 --> 06:36:04.160 But I gotta say Aurora as we said they did a lot of adjustments to their draft 06:36:04.160 --> 06:36:10.320 They said it looked better than the team number one definitely did and the WS they last picked his dawn breaker 06:36:10.680 --> 06:36:16.040 We were kind of having some doubts how much he's gonna be able to get from this game and he did get a lot 06:36:17.440 --> 06:36:18.520 He cooked 06:36:18.520 --> 06:36:23.160 He had three fire in the lane had really good early game at the same time too if I'm looking at Navi 06:36:23.160 --> 06:36:24.880 They lost both wisdom shrines 06:36:24.880 --> 06:36:27.720 But then still took like a lot of fights in the early game 06:36:27.720 --> 06:36:33.440 Which they should not have like when your snapfire doesn't have all they didn't really have the most damage to like throw into their 06:36:33.440 --> 06:36:38.800 Corona and have good early fights. So I do have to say that those are quite big mistakes from them 06:36:38.800 --> 06:36:42.840 But Aurora overall they definitely stepped up in this game. Yeah, it was considerably better 06:36:42.840 --> 06:36:47.160 I do agree with Avery though that like they're kind of faltering and I also 06:36:47.160 --> 06:37:01.160 I also think that it was played a little slower than it could have, like there were long periods where they have like a 5 or 6k lead, but they're not really doing anything, they're kind of just farming and Navi's farming and then there's a fight and they get some gold lead and then they go back to doing the same thing. 06:37:01.160 --> 06:37:10.160 And I feel like they could have pushed the tempo faster, like they still win the game, you know, don't get me wrong, and I think overall it was relatively clean until we get to that later bit where they throw some. 06:37:10.160 --> 06:37:16.160 But definitely not like peak performance yet, but it was an improvement, so it's the right direction for Aurora for sure. 06:37:16.160 --> 06:37:23.560 The speed I guess was someone being medicated by the Ursa. It seems like they were waiting like for the Ursa Aghanim's timing 06:37:25.280 --> 06:37:29.880 Second Roche didn't go their way. It was a second Roche or third Roche? Third Roche didn't go their way 06:37:30.240 --> 06:37:32.720 But it was overall a better Ursa game as well 06:37:32.720 --> 06:37:38.960 Yeah, that's that because you had the distance Ursa on 18 which did allow him to have a really good game 06:37:38.960 --> 06:37:43.240 He had a very good lane. You see FaZe's way trying to do the same thing with the battle for you 06:37:43.240 --> 06:37:47.620 built but he was so far behind and completely different game when Ursa is 06:37:47.620 --> 06:37:50.700 the one who's controlling the age something we said for game number one 06:37:50.700 --> 06:37:54.400 you are playing against Templar Assassin in the first game which means that if 06:37:54.400 --> 06:37:58.180 you lose one fight Templar Assassin takes that for the like five six minutes 06:37:58.180 --> 06:38:00.960 they're gonna be controlling pretty much the whole map and then it gets much 06:38:00.960 --> 06:38:05.320 more difficult but this time around Nightfall he's obsessed with Ursa and 06:38:05.320 --> 06:38:08.440 this time around it did work out for him. Yeah I mean kind of for the right 06:38:08.440 --> 06:38:12.160 reason here's I will say the best Ursa out of all the players that you have 06:38:12.160 --> 06:38:17.360 like obviously on the carry roll but also even with the lead they had this game this game got spicy 06:38:17.360 --> 06:38:23.200 yeah like they were only up like a to 10k gold at some point and against the draft that they played 06:38:23.200 --> 06:38:29.120 against that's not that much especially not a late game mag void they just got a little too spooky 06:38:29.120 --> 06:38:34.880 for me in this game no i think i think uh i think they're not favored once this game gets to that 06:38:34.880 --> 06:38:40.160 last point well the last fight i think they should lose this fight i think they honestly just massively 06:38:40.160 --> 06:38:45.360 misplay it like they corner their old team and they all die. I think if they play it slow like that is a big part of 06:38:45.360 --> 06:38:48.560 on faces void is supposed to play like in teamfights if you jump in jump out 06:38:48.560 --> 06:38:50.600 We were talking about potential buying acts here instead 06:38:50.840 --> 06:38:55.040 They kind of just get owned by their own team and then what can you do? 06:38:55.040 --> 06:38:55.920 None of them have five acts 06:38:55.920 --> 06:39:01.040 There's just over all that like I think that the style of void later game is you buy the eggs you buy the shard 06:39:01.040 --> 06:39:03.200 You jump in and jump out and you just keep giving vision 06:39:03.200 --> 06:39:08.120 You keep annoying the any team and at any point on any of these jumps you can corner them and so they're always like I played against this 06:39:08.120 --> 06:39:11.960 I remember the game we played against Spear in the finals, where the TOR is doing this to us, 06:39:11.960 --> 06:39:15.640 and you can't do anything. They have Void Mag, and so you're thinking constantly about, 06:39:15.640 --> 06:39:18.520 where's RP and where's Chrono? And at the same time, he's jumping in and out, 06:39:18.520 --> 06:39:22.120 and it's just like, there's so many factors that eventually someone sets that position. 06:39:22.120 --> 06:39:24.760 You get secure, or you get Chrono, and the fight's over, and the game's over. 06:39:24.760 --> 06:39:27.560 Like, it's so hard to play, and they just rushed it. 06:39:27.560 --> 06:39:31.800 And at the same time, too, when you do this, because out there breaking out of the motion, 06:39:31.800 --> 06:39:35.240 where, because you're slowly playing for the moment that you then grab where you know you're 06:39:35.240 --> 06:39:38.180 you're gonna win the teamfight and they rushed it and when you do that you need 06:39:38.180 --> 06:39:41.900 to be very certain that you're gonna win the fight which obviously did not 06:39:41.900 --> 06:39:45.600 happen like those moments you need to be very aware especially as the carry 06:39:45.600 --> 06:39:49.760 player when you jump the gun and this is just one of the things where Navi they 06:39:49.760 --> 06:39:53.100 are inconsistent and it shows at that moment because this game they could have 06:39:53.100 --> 06:39:57.900 still wanted. I mean there was a really deep dive you're playing against Magnus 06:39:57.900 --> 06:40:02.180 you are not respecting the enemy team you're just blanking in following 06:40:02.180 --> 06:40:10.180 Mikoto who's deciding to jump in. They were trying to poke, but it seems like they were not on the same page in terms of what others think that needs to be done. 06:40:10.180 --> 06:40:14.180 They were like kind of poking, but also not, and then they skewer back into the tower. 06:40:14.180 --> 06:40:19.180 We've seen it many times, they skewer into the hex and then immediately you have damage to insta-kill people. 06:40:19.180 --> 06:40:24.180 This was kind of their comeback, but that one fight, that's all it takes. 06:40:24.180 --> 06:40:30.180 Maybe also Faces Void was a little bit shy about jumping in because I'll give props to Mira. 06:40:30.180 --> 06:40:34.180 I was criticizing him last game, but Hoodwink was on point this game. 06:40:34.180 --> 06:40:38.180 The early three-man bushwhack that he got near the top bounty rune. 06:40:38.180 --> 06:40:42.180 Instantly everyone on the tire evaporated and I was like, oh, okay, that's it. 06:40:42.180 --> 06:40:45.180 This is a sign of good things to come from Aurora. 06:40:45.180 --> 06:40:49.180 So the Hoodwink was much, much stronger in this game than the Lion in game one. 06:40:49.180 --> 06:40:53.180 He did really well. It's also, there was like this clip later right around the Roche. 06:40:53.180 --> 06:40:58.180 You can tell when individual players still make you feel pressure in the game. 06:40:58.180 --> 06:41:01.180 You know, when they're going around and still doing stuff, whether they're outnumbered or not, 06:41:01.180 --> 06:41:03.180 just because they play the moment. 06:41:03.180 --> 06:41:08.180 This guy is a TI winner. He's obviously very capable and he's amazing. 06:41:08.180 --> 06:41:12.180 And in this game, I think he definitely showed it, because in some of the other games, 06:41:12.180 --> 06:41:17.180 Lion is supposedly one of his best, and he didn't really do much in Game 1. 06:41:17.180 --> 06:41:19.180 He made up for it. 06:41:19.180 --> 06:41:23.220 It's a sign of a good progress, which means that now both these teams are quite competitive 06:41:23.700 --> 06:41:30.280 After seeing game one of the second Navi's got this locked up game to Aurora. They've very much woken up. Yeah, they did 06:41:30.280 --> 06:41:31.660 I also 06:41:31.660 --> 06:41:36.180 Gotta go back to what's Navi like the way we described them. They had a pretty good 06:41:37.020 --> 06:41:41.500 First part of the tournament group stage looked good six and one game number one 06:41:41.660 --> 06:41:44.100 They have four players who are doing really well 06:41:44.100 --> 06:41:48.560 Then you have Niku doing Niku things that this could have easily been a 25 minute game 06:41:48.560 --> 06:41:52.640 And then in the second game like it's like this and then bam 06:41:52.640 --> 06:41:57.820 You know they have this we're we have a liftoff Houston and then just nothing happens 06:41:57.820 --> 06:42:00.940 No more like a part in the end. Yeah, much they ran out of the juice 06:42:01.460 --> 06:42:04.400 It is a very consistent problem for them 06:42:04.400 --> 06:42:09.940 And I wonder if it's something they'll actually be able to fix because we've seen this game a million times for them where 06:42:09.940 --> 06:42:14.260 They just throw the game in the toilet one player another makes some mistake and you know 06:42:14.260 --> 06:42:18.840 We heard Niko in the interview talking about like whatever their five zoomers they're young none of that experience 06:42:18.840 --> 06:42:21.940 Like he's kind of saying it like it's like a cool thing to me 06:42:21.940 --> 06:42:24.700 It's a negative thing like none of you have experience look how you lose games 06:42:24.700 --> 06:42:31.200 Yeah, like I think someone on that team needs to mature in some way or be able to make calls that 06:42:31.340 --> 06:42:35.460 That simplify the game and that make the game like easier to play like the spirit team 06:42:35.460 --> 06:42:38.300 There's a reason they're so good late game because they listen to one voice 06:42:38.300 --> 06:42:42.660 They have one idea like this your tour guy. He just says we're gonna do this or this collapse guy says 06:42:42.660 --> 06:42:45.300 I'm gonna jump this way and they just listen they just shut up and play the game 06:42:45.300 --> 06:42:48.580 And I feel like they got too many cooks in the kitchen or something because they're burning the food 06:42:48.740 --> 06:42:52.660 I mean it's either that or also the fact that they're all young right so they need 06:42:53.220 --> 06:42:58.900 Sometime cuz out of the game they have C1. Yeah, obviously will help them a lot and okay like next time we do this 06:42:58.900 --> 06:43:03.180 You know take like, you know take a bit more leadership on the carry. What are we gonna do next five? 06:43:03.180 --> 06:43:07.340 You need to do this but in the game you need to kind of go through these scenarios 06:43:07.340 --> 06:43:12.020 I would say especially this one that just happened because that's a big slap in your face like you're gonna remember 06:43:12.020 --> 06:43:14.740 So, you know my boy GTJ he'll do better. La cost 06:43:15.380 --> 06:43:20.580 He definitely will I I sure hope he does because he will they had it in the back 06:43:20.580 --> 06:43:26.420 It's a shitty feeling coming into the third game knowing that you made this huge comeback 06:43:26.420 --> 06:43:31.220 All you had to do is have like one big fight and you could close it out and you didn't you it's like 06:43:31.220 --> 06:43:35.820 There's two different sides, there's Chrono and Chrono no, and he went with the other one. 06:43:35.820 --> 06:43:39.020 It's okay, five units in the Chrono, that's all he was looking for. 06:43:39.020 --> 06:43:42.920 Unfortunately, that's not the kind of ultimates that will get you the win. 06:43:42.920 --> 06:43:47.420 We'll see what CY is lecturing his boys about, because they've got to prepare for a game number three. 06:43:47.420 --> 06:43:50.420 Stick around everyone, and we'll be back with the final game of the night. 06:44:01.220 --> 06:44:30.220 I got out of this one, got the ship under the door, the cool box sitting on the back seat of the car, that's sinking past you. 06:44:30.220 --> 06:44:33.220 To do everything 06:44:40.220 --> 06:44:42.220 Take your toes in the water 06:44:42.220 --> 06:44:44.220 We're out for the sun 06:44:48.220 --> 06:44:50.220 Take your toes in the water 06:44:50.220 --> 06:44:52.220 We're out for the sun 06:44:56.220 --> 06:44:58.220 Take your toes in the water 06:44:58.220 --> 06:45:00.220 We're out for the summer 06:45:02.220 --> 06:45:04.220 We're out for the summer 06:45:13.220 --> 06:45:16.220 I'm out of this world of issue on the go 06:45:17.220 --> 06:45:20.220 Look at what's here, all the lights you're walking on 06:45:21.220 --> 06:45:24.220 The secret house to the blue and the fair 06:45:28.220 --> 06:45:30.220 I 06:45:58.220 --> 06:46:01.220 You may have a son of a bitch 06:46:04.220 --> 06:46:06.220 You may have a son of a bitch 06:46:06.220 --> 06:46:08.220 You may have a son of a bitch 06:48:28.220 --> 06:48:30.220 On top of the world 06:48:30.220 --> 06:48:34.220 They thought I'd never make it 06:48:34.220 --> 06:48:37.220 But here I am on top of the world 06:48:37.220 --> 06:48:41.220 On top of the world 06:48:44.220 --> 06:48:48.220 On top of the world 06:48:52.220 --> 06:48:56.220 On top of the world 06:48:56.220 --> 06:49:03.220 I'm so bad at love 06:49:03.220 --> 06:49:12.220 I'm so bad at love 06:49:12.220 --> 06:49:16.220 Look at me 06:49:16.220 --> 06:49:22.220 You know that's my team 06:49:22.220 --> 06:49:24.220 Who the hell are you? 06:49:29.220 --> 06:49:31.220 Who's the real black man? 06:49:31.220 --> 06:49:32.220 What's in all this talk? 06:49:32.220 --> 06:49:34.220 Watch the noise out your heads man 06:49:35.220 --> 06:49:36.220 What's in that bag? 06:49:36.220 --> 06:49:38.220 Stands him in a game that makes a son of a bitch 06:49:38.220 --> 06:49:40.220 A bitch that makes them war 06:49:40.220 --> 06:49:42.220 It's tough to break your feelings 06:49:42.220 --> 06:49:43.220 Your fat energy sticks in the ceiling 06:49:43.220 --> 06:49:44.220 All of the people screaming 06:49:44.220 --> 06:49:46.220 Really, really tough 06:49:46.220 --> 06:49:48.220 But that's the style that can't go to the con 06:49:48.220 --> 06:49:49.220 See what it's made of 06:49:49.220 --> 06:49:51.220 All of my fat energy go with it 06:49:51.220 --> 06:50:19.620 We're still squeezing out over here over the sick place that Aurora were dropping. 06:50:19.620 --> 06:50:23.660 Because that was some fantastic build to your channel. 06:50:23.660 --> 06:50:24.660 Hell yeah. 06:50:24.660 --> 06:50:25.660 It was exciting. 06:50:25.660 --> 06:50:26.660 It was thrilling. 06:50:26.660 --> 06:50:27.660 Thrilling. 06:50:27.660 --> 06:50:28.660 Late night Dota, baby. 06:50:28.660 --> 06:50:29.660 Exhilarating. 06:50:29.660 --> 06:50:30.660 Rejuvenating. 06:50:30.660 --> 06:50:31.660 Rejuvenating. 06:50:31.660 --> 06:50:33.860 I feel a moisturized flourishing in my lane. 06:50:33.860 --> 06:50:34.860 Unbothered. 06:50:34.860 --> 06:50:35.860 Unbothered. 06:50:35.860 --> 06:50:36.860 I think that's wet because we don't do much. 06:50:36.860 --> 06:50:39.860 We really wanted to play this ball for like five minutes. 06:50:39.860 --> 06:50:40.860 Welcome back everybody. 06:50:40.860 --> 06:50:41.860 I wanted to throw one ball. 06:50:41.860 --> 06:50:42.860 I missed one ball. 06:50:42.860 --> 06:50:43.860 I think one ball. 06:50:43.860 --> 06:50:44.860 You were in the back. 06:50:44.860 --> 06:50:46.620 How many balls did you throw? 06:50:46.620 --> 06:50:47.620 So many. 06:50:47.620 --> 06:50:48.620 No. 06:50:48.620 --> 06:50:54.740 repeatedly keep that on the cost okay so the person the person who catches the 06:50:54.740 --> 06:50:58.060 ball have to face something like there's a fact about that correct something cool 06:50:58.060 --> 06:51:04.340 something cool yeah level 25 for face of Savoy talent is breakable it's the 06:51:04.340 --> 06:51:08.580 only talent in the game that's breakable Tannock had a garbage can I build 06:51:08.580 --> 06:51:12.540 earlier today on next post and it griefs the game to but acts before heart which 06:51:12.540 --> 06:51:17.460 gives you one damage per tick. 06:51:17.460 --> 06:51:26.780 If you Earth Spirit Agnus Scepter Enchant Remnant, the Phoenix Supernova Ag becomes unhittable. 06:51:26.780 --> 06:51:29.020 Oh, that's good. 06:51:29.020 --> 06:51:37.340 If you Grimstroke Soulbind an illusion hero to his illusion, you can make two dark portraits. 06:51:37.340 --> 06:51:38.340 This last round. 06:51:38.340 --> 06:51:44.580 Last round, Hero versus Hero name was Fuzzy Wuzzy in Dota 1. 06:51:46.980 --> 06:51:47.700 Very important. 06:51:49.700 --> 06:51:51.060 Kezu is good at Darkseer. 06:51:52.500 --> 06:51:54.260 Everyone knew that. Everyone knew that. 06:51:54.260 --> 06:51:56.100 Wasn't a fact, unfortunately. 06:52:01.300 --> 06:52:03.140 Take it. The choice is yours. 06:52:04.020 --> 06:52:06.660 Different things are happening elsewhere in the draft though. 06:52:06.660 --> 06:52:12.320 So a little bit of a mix-up, Aurora gaming bumping up Night Stalker to a Phase 1 ban 06:52:12.320 --> 06:52:15.600 and Navi says, okay fine, you're gonna ban out Night Stalker, you're not getting your 06:52:15.600 --> 06:52:18.360 puck this time and Navi returned the favor. 06:52:18.360 --> 06:52:21.000 Instead, Aurora will say, so be it, I'll take Tiny. 06:52:21.000 --> 06:52:22.000 Alright. 06:52:22.000 --> 06:52:25.320 Yeah, that is the natural progression of things. 06:52:25.320 --> 06:52:26.320 Monkey King, really? 06:52:26.320 --> 06:52:31.360 You know, they had a draft the other day where they picked Monkey first out of the phase 06:52:31.360 --> 06:52:32.520 and the second phase. 06:52:32.520 --> 06:52:34.320 So just 13 Monkey King. 06:52:34.320 --> 06:52:38.660 I believe they ended up playing it as Kerry, so they must know something about this hero 06:52:38.660 --> 06:52:43.340 where he's gonna go mid or safe lane and you just have good matchups. 06:52:43.740 --> 06:52:46.500 Which I would say is not the case. This hero has a lot of bad matchups. 06:52:47.020 --> 06:52:48.140 But they kind of picked the blind. 06:52:48.140 --> 06:52:50.940 He's also not particularly good against Tiny. 06:52:51.140 --> 06:52:53.820 Like it's fine, but it's not... 06:52:54.260 --> 06:52:58.900 Like you see some offlaner that you crush and lane, or that's traditionally good against, or some support that lacks spells. 06:52:59.020 --> 06:53:00.740 Like if you go on Tiny, he avalanches you. 06:53:00.820 --> 06:53:01.940 Or he tosses you away. 06:53:01.940 --> 06:53:06.540 Or he can burst you or he has Silver Edge against Jinggu and can fight you like you have high armor against here 06:53:06.540 --> 06:53:09.860 That's all physical damage. There's a lot of things about this matchup that are not particularly good for Monkey King 06:53:10.620 --> 06:53:14.300 I'm a bit surprised too. So when they picked it and 06:53:14.980 --> 06:53:19.860 Gave it to mid it was against a pango. Yeah, and then they had it once more with Magnus 06:53:19.860 --> 06:53:23.460 I believe they had it with Magnus and that was second-phase pick though 06:53:24.180 --> 06:53:26.180 13 pick yeah, I'm 06:53:26.260 --> 06:53:31.620 Also curious what justifies and then their last time that they picked it on Kerry. It was also second phase 06:53:31.940 --> 06:53:35.720 So not much data as to what makes it first phase priority 06:53:35.720 --> 06:53:41.460 Is it good against all the other heroes that they might play like on Mr. Cotto if you ban a club? 06:53:41.460 --> 06:53:44.840 I don't know something like that. I mean you can still make some form. He can storm 06:53:44.840 --> 06:53:50.180 He also plays Windranger from the mid lane, so they have two good options at least 06:53:50.180 --> 06:53:52.960 Yeah, I've seen monkeys do okay 06:53:52.960 --> 06:53:58.740 Sh against tiny it's that thing took it it depends like who's getting what if tiny is using his combo on somebody else 06:53:58.740 --> 06:54:05.660 else if monkey is staying if he's playing from ahead it can make the difference like all of these like stacking damage life stealer 06:54:05.900 --> 06:54:11.460 Kev's can also go in favor of him compared to tiny monkeys kind of the same thing as well 06:54:11.460 --> 06:54:15.620 If you're fighting for a longer time if you use your combo you are on cooldown 06:54:15.620 --> 06:54:19.800 Yeah, and want to see what the rest of the lineups gonna look like yeah 06:54:19.980 --> 06:54:23.600 Rubik is still available in the pool. There is no on board 06:54:23.600 --> 06:54:27.140 So maybe he loses a little bit of priority coming out of the face right away 06:54:27.140 --> 06:54:32.260 This one is very good. First of all, you're covering your own monkey. You don't want to give it away into Aurora 06:54:32.260 --> 06:54:35.680 And it's one of the best heroes into tiny. I like this one a lot 06:54:36.940 --> 06:54:41.240 Also, I think prioritizing the four pick is not that important because you took the lion last game 06:54:41.240 --> 06:54:44.320 You lost the other team lost with lion jamming it again 06:54:44.320 --> 06:54:50.720 It's sort of ignoring the way the series is going sometimes there's look there's there's picks that are supposed to be good 06:54:50.720 --> 06:54:52.960 And they're good in the turnip. There's not winning in this series 06:54:52.960 --> 06:54:54.400 You're like, okay, whatever they're not winning 06:54:54.400 --> 06:54:56.400 Don't pick it for now. Like just wait and see a little to later 06:54:56.400 --> 06:54:58.680 And then maybe if you get the chance later you can still pick it 06:54:58.680 --> 06:55:03.480 But like don't force it and like just just wait on it a little so perhaps if we see in the coat of storm spirit 06:55:03.480 --> 06:55:06.880 Then the priority gets bumped up again. Yeah, they have very potential or you know 06:55:06.880 --> 06:55:11.680 Maybe they take hoodwink and then they save the for kick for last and then it's there's nothing else there 06:55:11.680 --> 06:55:13.680 Yeah, there's living 06:55:14.080 --> 06:55:16.800 Well, she actually bumped up the most picked hero of the tournament 06:55:18.040 --> 06:55:19.200 interesting 06:55:19.200 --> 06:55:22.960 Yeah, she's picked a lot. Yeah, that's 63 times. Yo, just looks good 06:55:22.960 --> 06:55:28.560 We've seen it played in four. I've also seen rule played on plus five, which honestly looked pretty good as well 06:55:28.600 --> 06:55:30.720 Just versatile good laner follow-up damage 06:55:31.360 --> 06:55:38.080 We love a lot of things in meta to be broken as well. Just feels very solid. I think this is like a 06:55:39.280 --> 06:55:44.080 Skellshot hero, but with these professional e-gamers. It's really not as much 06:55:44.080 --> 06:55:49.680 It feels like they are kind of having guaranteed bush wax. It's all like a man. We're getting so much pretty much 06:55:49.680 --> 06:55:55.760 They know and also the fact that chasm stone is available as a cheap neutral not neutral 06:55:55.760 --> 06:55:59.840 But the item that you can buy for cheap. It does make this hero so much better 06:56:00.840 --> 06:56:02.320 and 06:56:02.320 --> 06:56:10.100 Indeed as a puck replacement and as a counter to a potentially mid monkey king. Maybe it's being discouraged. They picked the storm spirit 06:56:11.120 --> 06:56:13.120 Yeah, they also had good bands for it 06:56:13.120 --> 06:56:21.120 Nightstalker and Underlord and Huskar all already banned, three of honestly the best heroes against Storm, so you're set up in a pretty decent spot. 06:56:21.120 --> 06:56:28.120 Duma also banned, and Puck like it's a lot of stuff. You could pick an Ember here, but then you lose your Flex on the Monkey King, so their offlane pick gets better. 06:56:28.120 --> 06:56:37.120 So it's an interesting spot where normally you'd want to pick your mid here, because you see their mid, and generally that's the protocol, you see a lane, you pick that lane. 06:56:37.120 --> 06:56:41.840 But you're sort of at a crossroads of do we want to save our flex or do we want to 06:56:42.240 --> 06:56:48.480 The shore off linear. It's still like very good Ruby game instant lift like spells that you steal from tiny fields 06:56:48.480 --> 06:56:53.400 Really nice avalanche is a giga spell for like very cheap that you can get them lower cool down 06:56:53.600 --> 06:56:59.560 Stop that you steal from hoodwink also feel really nice bush rack or the sharp shooter while she's charging it feels good 06:57:01.520 --> 06:57:03.520 There's that or the lion 06:57:03.520 --> 06:57:08.060 And then maybe you just go support offlaner and you still hide the monkey 06:57:09.680 --> 06:57:12.840 Lines, okay, Rubik you also mentioned all of them are pretty 06:57:13.600 --> 06:57:16.800 Okay to me, but just seems difficult is 06:57:18.360 --> 06:57:24.660 It would be nice if they can save deflects in my opinion still because otherwise if you show this monkey now 06:57:25.060 --> 06:57:27.420 That he's a carry it is quite easy 06:57:27.420 --> 06:57:31.460 There's a lot of offlaners that make his life really hard to play you can just get by for it, right? 06:57:31.460 --> 06:57:35.180 Yeah, so you're looking at some offlaners, perhaps? 06:57:37.180 --> 06:57:41.340 Like, you could look at Tide or Slardar, maybe? 06:57:41.660 --> 06:57:43.420 You're talking Tide heroes or specifically? 06:57:43.420 --> 06:57:44.180 Specifically. 06:57:44.180 --> 06:57:44.680 Okay. 06:57:44.820 --> 06:57:46.420 Man, I really set myself up. 06:57:49.540 --> 06:57:51.820 Are there others that are really good against? 06:57:52.020 --> 06:57:54.780 Because Tiny Carry, first of all, is kind of bullshit. 06:57:54.860 --> 06:57:56.140 Like, this hero is very strong. 06:57:56.180 --> 06:57:57.620 You need some other type of commerce. 06:57:59.380 --> 06:57:59.940 This is good. 06:57:59.940 --> 06:58:07.340 It is so they keep hiding the monkey they get the lion against the storm spirit and they get their offlaner who is good against tiny 06:58:09.220 --> 06:58:11.020 Yeah, I will say so for sure 06:58:11.020 --> 06:58:17.540 I also think lion timber saw is a very classic pairing because lion wants a tank 06:58:17.540 --> 06:58:20.740 But he doesn't necessarily want to catch because if you have like lion Mars 06:58:20.740 --> 06:58:24.720 It's kind of low damage so timber gives you the damage you want with all your disable 06:58:24.720 --> 06:58:26.640 But he also goes in for you and gives you vision 06:58:26.640 --> 06:58:29.680 So like he's running in and being a chungus and then you can stun people 06:58:29.680 --> 06:58:34.520 So it's like that this energy is I think two of the best combos rely on are timbersaw and huskar 06:58:34.520 --> 06:58:37.760 Because they're they fulfill that damage, but like also a fat guy who goes in 06:58:40.080 --> 06:58:42.080 So what's the 18? 06:58:44.600 --> 06:58:46.600 WS hero 06:58:47.440 --> 06:58:49.440 Okay, a dawnbreaker 06:58:50.200 --> 06:58:53.960 Had a lot of success in the previous game. He looked extremely good 06:58:53.960 --> 06:58:57.940 especially during the laning stage. I don't think that lane should be as bad 06:58:57.940 --> 06:59:01.840 for Faceless Wood, but they played it so well, made his life miserable. He was 06:59:01.840 --> 06:59:07.720 like level 3, 5 minutes in, and then they also lost the rune, the exp rune 06:59:07.720 --> 06:59:11.800 because of that, so felt really good. And you always will have ways of setting 06:59:11.800 --> 06:59:15.480 things up. Pretty much every hero on their side, setting up for Dawnbreaker 06:59:15.480 --> 06:59:20.080 Alti as a follow-up, and we saw how effective it was. And this is the hero 06:59:20.080 --> 06:59:25.680 that we've seen yesterday in tiebreakers this is something that playtime uses 06:59:25.680 --> 06:59:30.120 really well we saw it earlier today as well it just feels very good especially 06:59:30.120 --> 06:59:34.800 if you're like lacking some of the damage and they have good amount of 06:59:34.800 --> 06:59:38.680 magical plus physical combination especially because it's scary tiny but 06:59:38.680 --> 06:59:42.200 percentage-based damage I think this tiny has been answered in terms of like 06:59:42.200 --> 06:59:46.520 what they have with Sunray with Timbersaw as well being very annoying I'm not 06:59:46.520 --> 06:59:55.520 I'm not sure if they would go with Necrophos in this, I don't know how you feel about it, they could have still picked a carry, I believe. 06:59:55.520 --> 06:59:57.520 You're saying why ban out the Necrow? 06:59:57.520 --> 07:00:15.520 Yeah, I could see a word where they can still play it just because this hero seems overtuned in a way, like even if, like let's say we think that the tiny is answered, the hero when it has a good game it just looks like it's the best older hero right now, out of the heroes that I've seen. 07:00:15.520 --> 07:00:18.580 powerful with a good game and it may just be more a fear thing more than 07:00:18.580 --> 07:00:21.520 anything sometimes you thought maybe WS played one pub against Nekkar he's like 07:00:21.520 --> 07:00:24.240 I can't play this match up this matchup stocks these are just bad it because you 07:00:24.240 --> 07:00:28.120 know people get pub PTSD all the time 07:00:28.320 --> 07:00:32.420 I could see something like Invoker for Navi I think they're also totally like 07:00:32.420 --> 07:00:36.640 monkey king is spying in Storm and Lane the lane is not a problem especially 07:00:36.640 --> 07:00:40.480 with lion beatings these stuffs are very strong in fighting runes so it's 07:00:40.480 --> 07:00:44.280 it's definitely okay 07:00:44.280 --> 07:00:46.820 you have a preference for 07:00:46.820 --> 07:00:48.320 carry versus mid monkey king? 07:00:48.320 --> 07:00:50.600 or are you just presenting both options? 07:00:50.600 --> 07:00:51.820 um... 07:00:51.820 --> 07:00:54.960 i think both are reasonable i don't know how this lane goes against stone hoodwink 07:00:54.960 --> 07:00:57.760 generally and then monkey is pretty bad against hoodwink because 07:00:57.760 --> 07:01:00.800 if you try to commit for jingo then she just stuns you and you walk away and 07:01:00.800 --> 07:01:01.900 reset the jingo so 07:01:01.900 --> 07:01:06.360 also if your phoenix is five it's not really what monkey wants out of his lane 07:01:06.360 --> 07:01:10.360 maybe if you put lion there with disables you can do better 07:01:10.360 --> 07:01:11.560 Where are you taking, Buckman? 07:01:11.560 --> 07:01:14.160 That's a new bit, this guy just keeps stealing one thing at a time. 07:01:15.760 --> 07:01:16.760 They're feeding them. 07:01:18.860 --> 07:01:20.160 Ha ha ha ha! 07:01:25.560 --> 07:01:26.360 Hell yeah! 07:01:26.660 --> 07:01:28.160 Vettelman, sir! 07:01:28.660 --> 07:01:33.060 I'm just really glad that they decided to step away from Warlock and all these shenanigans. 07:01:33.060 --> 07:01:34.060 Thank God, I agree. 07:01:34.060 --> 07:01:37.860 They have no cooldowns whatsoever on their side other than Bon Alti, 07:01:37.860 --> 07:01:40.060 but that also doesn't stop you from fighting, 07:01:40.060 --> 07:01:43.500 So I feel like they could potentially abuse this. 07:01:43.500 --> 07:01:47.460 I would be okay if they had Venomance or with Ursa in the first game as well, 07:01:47.460 --> 07:01:49.140 because you're playing against Night Stalker. 07:01:49.140 --> 07:01:52.900 This is the vision hero, allows Storm Spirit to get the really good jump, 07:01:52.900 --> 07:01:57.460 allows Tiny with the Shadow Blade to find supports in the backlines, 07:01:57.460 --> 07:02:00.060 and pretty much one shot him once he gets to his item timings. 07:02:01.500 --> 07:02:05.980 And they end up making the Monkey King a carry, which makes Pango mid. 07:02:07.260 --> 07:02:09.460 Yeah, so I guess they think that the lane is fine, 07:02:09.460 --> 07:02:14.980 Which it may be I think pango is one of the best core heroes against tiny because he's got a pretty small manifold 07:02:14.980 --> 07:02:17.400 So if you start the fight with roll and you lock on to him 07:02:17.900 --> 07:02:22.860 You either force an oppressed BKB, which is great because tiny hates pressing BKB for free or you burn all his mana 07:02:22.860 --> 07:02:27.780 You can't do anything afterwards. So I think it's a very it's very good game matchup. The lane against storm is fine 07:02:27.780 --> 07:02:31.780 It's good against dawn too because I mean you're rolling around you'll care about some stupid downbreak road 07:02:31.780 --> 07:02:33.340 Do you just keep rolling through? 07:02:33.340 --> 07:02:38.280 It's a good pick and it gives them like they just have you look at knobby trap. This is very well rounded install it 07:02:38.280 --> 07:02:40.880 I think this is the most even of the games in terms of draft. 07:02:40.880 --> 07:02:43.280 I think both teams have good drafts, and it's a lot about gameplay. 07:02:43.280 --> 07:02:45.180 I don't know, I just like this Venom answer a lot. 07:02:45.180 --> 07:02:47.980 I feel like just permission that they're going to be having, 07:02:47.980 --> 07:02:50.680 there's going to be quite a lot of action going on. 07:02:50.680 --> 07:02:53.380 I feel like with both of these drafts, because they want to be fighting, 07:02:53.380 --> 07:02:55.180 and also heal reduction. 07:02:55.180 --> 07:03:00.180 You can not say easily, but the Venom answer is the type of a hero that he needs one fight, 07:03:00.180 --> 07:03:04.580 and if you get Spirit Vessel against the Timbersaw Phoenix Monkey King, 07:03:04.580 --> 07:03:06.680 it's such a valuable item to pick up. 07:03:06.680 --> 07:03:10.520 Is he going to be able to survive a Timberstahl Lion Lane, though? 07:03:11.560 --> 07:03:14.600 Probably, he can if he doesn't step out too far. 07:03:14.600 --> 07:03:17.080 Because most Timbers right now, you don't really want a skill chain. 07:03:17.080 --> 07:03:19.080 It's like such a dog shit spell. 07:03:19.080 --> 07:03:20.920 Like you just max your Q, you max your armor. 07:03:20.920 --> 07:03:23.400 So he should be okay unless he really missteps. 07:03:23.720 --> 07:03:28.120 I perhaps slightly lean Na'Vi, but I agree that it's very even. 07:03:28.120 --> 07:03:30.040 And there's a lot of gameplay to be had in this game. 07:03:30.440 --> 07:03:33.240 And it matters a lot how Na'Vi also play their early game. 07:03:33.240 --> 07:03:35.760 I would prefer if they played onto the Dawnbreaker lane, 07:03:35.760 --> 07:03:39.920 Like bring your pango there to the monkey king maybe even in wait the wisdom shrine because in the last game 07:03:39.920 --> 07:03:43.120 They lost both which set them back a lot. So that's what I'm looking at 07:03:43.120 --> 07:03:48.720 I got the ball of the truth here. You all got a turn with it. But how about our casters? 07:03:50.000 --> 07:03:52.000 Oh, I'm ready 07:03:54.000 --> 07:03:56.000 It's hard to get momentum when you're sitting down, all right 07:03:57.200 --> 07:04:01.200 Take your pick here speak some truth now imagine you're holding the ball 07:04:01.200 --> 07:04:03.200 I've got balls in my face. 07:04:03.200 --> 07:04:09.200 I love this like crouching pango hidden monkey king kind of draft where you know you keep something hidden till the very end. 07:04:09.200 --> 07:04:10.200 I've got balls in my face. 07:04:10.200 --> 07:04:12.200 It's right here in my face. 07:04:12.200 --> 07:04:15.200 Pango is a super busted hero. I think they've got it. 07:04:15.200 --> 07:04:17.200 Okay, Avery. 07:04:17.200 --> 07:04:19.200 Ask the chicken, Neil. 07:04:19.200 --> 07:04:21.200 Hold the ball. 07:04:22.200 --> 07:04:24.200 Okay. 07:04:24.200 --> 07:04:25.200 What is the... 07:04:25.200 --> 07:04:28.200 You can give it to the chicken also. What does the chicken say? 07:04:28.200 --> 07:04:30.200 The chicken's guys 07:04:32.440 --> 07:04:35.160 Take me into Dota 2 because I don't want to listen to Neil anymore 07:04:35.160 --> 07:04:40.580 That's what the ball said. That wasn't me. That was the ball a true a true conduit for everything though 07:04:40.580 --> 07:04:45.080 Well, I'm still talking when you get you get leave me. That's shooting. It's not how it works 07:04:46.320 --> 07:04:52.080 Hello, welcome to game 3 and I'll be up against Aurora as we get into our final game of the evening 07:04:52.080 --> 07:04:57.760 I like the panel said a very even draft between these two sides way more straightforward and simple to see you want a game 07:04:57.760 --> 07:05:04.760 The plan is, between these two, I'll just pull up against the pango, the chipper against the tiny, tons of team flight, and I'll go long to get shoved down. 07:05:04.760 --> 07:05:06.760 How are people for so many things? 07:05:06.760 --> 07:05:09.760 Very close draft indeed. It's really hard to pick a favorite here. 07:05:09.760 --> 07:05:15.760 Kind of a little bit of everything. I do really like Last Pick Pango. That's some juice right there. 07:05:15.760 --> 07:05:20.760 It's hard for me to bet against Last Pick Pango. It's just such a disgusting hero no matter what. 07:05:20.760 --> 07:05:24.760 But I kind of like a rose line up there. Just looks nice. 07:05:24.760 --> 07:05:25.760 You're a Venom lover? 07:05:25.760 --> 07:05:29.760 I love Venom. This is my highest win rate hero of all time actually. 07:05:29.760 --> 07:05:30.760 Oh, I don't even click! 07:05:30.760 --> 07:05:36.760 Yeah, in pubs. Like, if you had up all the games, I've ever played in Dota 2, I have like a 75% win rate on this hero all time or something. 07:05:36.760 --> 07:05:37.760 That's pretty good. 07:05:37.760 --> 07:05:41.760 I love, I love meets and defendants. I used to pick it a lot too when I was drafting. 07:05:42.760 --> 07:05:47.760 I just feel like he's a very under-respected hero, because you do need to be a spammer on this hero. 07:05:47.760 --> 07:05:51.760 You need to understand him. He is not that simple to win with. 07:05:51.760 --> 07:05:53.760 That lane looks easy, but the rest of the game, yes. 07:05:53.760 --> 07:06:00.020 Yes, like you really have to make the little things count on this hero the positioning you have to be just enough to bait them 07:06:00.020 --> 07:06:02.560 But not that you die so easily and you get your spells off 07:06:02.560 --> 07:06:05.100 You know to place the wards you know to fight around the wards 07:06:05.180 --> 07:06:09.860 He's a kind of a complicated concept of a hero even if some of his dominance is very straightforward 07:06:09.860 --> 07:06:14.440 Like I get you and I can now trade you sure but a lot of the finer things of in a program 07:06:14.460 --> 07:06:18.180 This year can be really difficult to win with because he can become dead weight very quickly 07:06:18.180 --> 07:06:20.900 Oh, yeah for sure and then itemizing this this 07:06:20.900 --> 07:06:25.280 It feels like a double-edged sword sometimes, where there are some heroes where it's a straight line of, you know, 07:06:25.280 --> 07:06:27.700 A, B, C, this is my progression of items. 07:06:27.700 --> 07:06:31.980 Venomagric doesn't necessarily need anything, so he's very wide open. 07:06:31.980 --> 07:06:33.580 He can give the game what he needs. 07:06:33.580 --> 07:06:35.660 I was like, support Phoenix is very similar. 07:06:35.660 --> 07:06:40.900 Very high damage heroes, all their spells do damage, they don't have a lot of disable, but they can buy anything. 07:06:40.900 --> 07:06:44.400 And I think that's why, again, the execution can sometimes be really difficult. 07:06:44.400 --> 07:06:50.700 If you're not a good team at itemizing, if you're not a good demo player, understand what you need to buy for the team in every situation. 07:06:50.700 --> 07:06:53.740 Then a lot of your impact goes out the window. 07:06:53.740 --> 07:06:58.280 For me, Venos' impact does come from an extra network that's going to gather off the map, 07:06:58.280 --> 07:06:59.280 that's confusing words. 07:06:59.280 --> 07:07:01.100 Extra network he's going to have by winning lane. 07:07:01.100 --> 07:07:04.780 Extra network he's going to have by snowballing game or securing objectives through some of 07:07:04.780 --> 07:07:06.520 his early dominance. 07:07:06.520 --> 07:07:08.660 If you translate all that gold into useless shit... 07:07:08.660 --> 07:07:10.160 What's the point? 07:07:10.160 --> 07:07:11.900 Yeah, there's no point. 07:07:11.900 --> 07:07:15.620 You may as well pick 5 vision and niggas, just try and block, drop a black wall. 07:07:15.620 --> 07:07:18.780 But this is why we look at your plays like snaking, right? 07:07:18.780 --> 07:07:21.780 Venomaly sometimes operates the same as a Chen does. 07:07:21.780 --> 07:07:24.780 I'm kind of 3D taking areas of the map. 07:07:24.780 --> 07:07:26.780 So I think it can do a lot here. 07:07:26.780 --> 07:07:28.780 It can also fall very flat. 07:07:28.780 --> 07:07:32.780 The Timmer matchup is often not fun for this hero. 07:07:33.780 --> 07:07:36.780 Let's see what I can get done here, but I kind of like a lower draft overall. 07:07:36.780 --> 07:07:39.780 I also like hoodwink. This hero just feels really good to play with. 07:07:39.780 --> 07:07:41.780 Low cooldown disable, great follow-up. 07:07:41.780 --> 07:07:44.780 They have the Storm Dawnbreaker, China combo. 07:07:44.780 --> 07:07:46.780 They have Tiny. 07:07:46.780 --> 07:07:51.380 The Na'Vi draft I think also can meet them on a lot of these factors and I think the Pango is the big X factor 07:07:51.380 --> 07:07:54.580 just rolling in, there's no real answer for the Pango on this game because it was last pick 07:07:54.580 --> 07:08:00.180 so you should have this huge frontline teamfight disruption that can just throw a wrench into all of these nice Aurora plans. 07:08:01.980 --> 07:08:04.680 The gritties, they spent the time earlier on to disengage. 07:08:04.680 --> 07:08:05.180 Nice dog. 07:08:05.680 --> 07:08:07.880 These low cooldown spells being spammed into him. 07:08:08.180 --> 07:08:10.680 Got the juge trying to get some damage back on WS. 07:08:10.980 --> 07:08:11.980 A little kill threat. 07:08:12.780 --> 07:08:15.680 Nice to see him staying late and far, but a good first blood for Aurora. 07:08:16.780 --> 07:08:18.780 How's the dog breaker? 07:08:18.780 --> 07:08:20.780 Slowed down here. 07:08:20.780 --> 07:08:23.780 He can't get there for a deny or anything, so Nightfall... 07:08:23.780 --> 07:08:25.780 K.O.R.I actually. Thanks for the kill. 07:08:25.780 --> 07:08:27.780 Nightfall, not happy about that one. 07:08:27.780 --> 07:08:29.780 He'll spend one for the extra XP. 07:08:30.780 --> 07:08:33.780 As he knows, K.O.R.I can bring out more regen, bloke grenades. 07:08:33.780 --> 07:08:34.780 Venom doing work early. 07:08:34.780 --> 07:08:37.780 The early part of this match against the Timber is really nice. 07:08:37.780 --> 07:08:40.780 Once the Timber gets more levels and the rest of the game he kind of just dunks on you. 07:08:40.780 --> 07:08:42.780 You can buy magic resist items, you can buy dispels. 07:08:42.780 --> 07:08:43.780 He's a mobility hero. 07:08:43.780 --> 07:08:56.780 The mobility hero, Venom, really sucks against mobility cores, so he's gonna have rough matchups against the Pango and the Timber in this game, but in the early portion, you can definitely make their first 10 or 15 minutes of living now. 07:08:56.780 --> 07:09:01.780 So, gotta extract as much as you can right now in your cavalry and translate it into some good stuff. 07:09:01.780 --> 07:09:07.780 GMA does have the full stick with 10 charges, so he's kinda chilling here more than he looks. 07:09:07.780 --> 07:09:10.780 That's perfectly fine. 07:09:10.780 --> 07:09:17.780 Yeah, this Tiny, you see these Banes, Chateauphines, Drows, whatever, to deal with the Pango. 07:09:17.780 --> 07:09:21.780 Tiny can't do the same thing until he gets super stacked in items. 07:09:21.780 --> 07:09:25.780 If you need someone who can just click the Pango during roles, like do something with... 07:09:25.780 --> 07:09:29.780 If Pango gets a free role under the fight, what do you do to run away? 07:09:29.780 --> 07:09:30.780 Kite him. 07:09:30.780 --> 07:09:31.780 That's pretty much it. 07:09:31.780 --> 07:09:32.780 Kill other people. 07:09:32.780 --> 07:09:36.780 You have mobility on the storm, the Dawnbreaker in theory isn't in the fight at the start. 07:09:36.780 --> 07:09:41.540 Tiny is a nice silver edge entry that you can kind of pick a target. You start on the penguin 07:09:41.540 --> 07:09:43.240 You just all in them with solar guardian on top 07:09:43.240 --> 07:09:48.620 I think those kind of moves are gonna be really good and this is Pete Venno gameplay right here. You wanted that ruin. Oh 07:09:49.260 --> 07:09:54.260 Mr. He's dead to the gales. He's trying to bust love. Okay. Yeah, that's charge 07:09:54.980 --> 07:10:00.540 Still very closely went down to 20 even at the end and a long walk back to base that damages don't 07:10:00.540 --> 07:10:03.540 What would be losing out on that mid lane against the Storm? 07:10:03.540 --> 07:10:07.540 Oh, it's a big one. Huge win for Mikoto here. He's gonna really out level Niku now. 07:10:07.540 --> 07:10:11.540 He was already winning this lane, which we've seen it's been Storm favored the whole event. 07:10:11.540 --> 07:10:15.540 But now, you're gonna be level 6 early potential to just kill this Pango when he comes back mid too. 07:10:15.540 --> 07:10:19.540 This is a big point of pressure right now. 07:10:19.540 --> 07:10:25.540 We'd love to see Aurora use this. Either bring the hoodwink into mid off of TP, just jump his ass and kill him. 07:10:25.540 --> 07:10:26.540 Oh, TP bottom. 07:10:26.540 --> 07:10:31.180 Ah, they saw this coming. They felt the line rotation. Really, oh, really not coming in as well. 07:10:31.180 --> 07:10:34.780 Two-man stuns, disconnect, and mirror now, the one that's separated. 07:10:34.780 --> 07:10:39.180 Being focused down by the two-dye supports, I can't even get a trade out. 07:10:40.060 --> 07:10:46.460 I felt like Aurora had a decent move there to react, but now Navi bring even more numbers with monkey king rotating. 07:10:46.460 --> 07:10:50.060 Because there was this triple range creep going in, so Navi knew 07:10:50.060 --> 07:10:54.460 Nifle has to sit down and tower to get this. They have creep advantage. They bring the numbers. 07:10:54.460 --> 07:10:58.940 It's a really nice time to cancel this, not much time you can do to fight back in these early stages. 07:10:59.940 --> 07:11:02.340 And you kind of miss your window to kill Niku mid? 07:11:02.340 --> 07:11:04.340 He's still a level behind. 07:11:04.340 --> 07:11:06.340 But now you're hoodling from bottom to bottom. 07:11:07.340 --> 07:11:09.340 The PMA just plays forward into wave. 07:11:09.340 --> 07:11:11.340 There's a lot of damage coming his way though. 07:11:11.340 --> 07:11:15.340 Pop's a big one, but full-stress arrival is going to secure his end. 07:11:15.340 --> 07:11:20.340 Now Daisy's in behind enemy lines and this Storm and Venomance have chased him down. 07:11:20.340 --> 07:11:22.340 How are you doing work done here? 07:11:22.340 --> 07:11:24.340 Might look more slick and choo. 07:11:24.920 --> 07:11:26.920 I'm expecting monkeying to get involved, but... 07:11:27.540 --> 07:11:30.740 ...he feels way from that top lane and realizing bottoms and that's a bastard. 07:11:30.740 --> 07:11:35.380 I mean, nice rotation for Mikoto. He gets to clean up a big core kill and gets to the Foundry Road on the way back, 07:11:35.380 --> 07:11:39.140 so it's still gonna be good resources. You don't get that cheeky kill on Niku here. 07:11:39.580 --> 07:11:42.800 That's the sad part of all this, but you do deny him that powering, so... 07:11:43.380 --> 07:11:47.140 Still feeling great about this game right now if you're a whore. Another strong lane phase from them. 07:11:48.020 --> 07:11:50.020 Couple hiccups, but... 07:11:50.020 --> 07:11:53.740 You have the top two CS, you have the top two net worth, you're cruising here. 07:11:53.740 --> 07:11:59.940 It's gone, the storm combo is going to be strong as hell, because there's no save for it in this game. 07:11:59.940 --> 07:12:05.020 Like what is your turn around if the storm just jumps in, pulls them into Solar Guardian and will follow? 07:12:06.020 --> 07:12:07.220 Is there a bad dupe? 07:12:07.220 --> 07:12:09.820 Yeah, Sun Ray him like... 07:12:09.820 --> 07:12:16.500 Yeah, you can drop a full Phoenix combo, you can drop a Wukong, or you can drop a Rolling Thunder to try and turn that. 07:12:16.500 --> 07:12:18.700 That's a big ulty wasted defensive, isn't it? 07:12:18.700 --> 07:12:21.460 The thing if you get kited out you're gonna feel really bad in that situation 07:12:21.460 --> 07:12:23.300 And if a roar just get to be give these later 07:12:23.300 --> 07:12:26.460 There's no be giving control this lineup so you can't always commit for that and just cut it out 07:12:26.680 --> 07:12:32.160 Reset those big old to go back in that's kind of the style tiny likes where you like spining out one entry to the fight 07:12:32.160 --> 07:12:35.700 You just destroy that first guy, and then you get to pick 07:12:36.220 --> 07:12:40.720 Okay, wait we get the most bite. We're all just chill and now you're playing five before I'll go do roads 07:12:40.720 --> 07:12:42.720 Or I'll kill somebody else to look for another pick off 07:12:42.920 --> 07:12:44.420 So I see yours 07:12:44.420 --> 07:12:46.420 really tough to play 07:12:46.420 --> 07:12:52.220 Yeah, even though you've run four heroes down into his lane and quote-unquote shut him down or pressured him 07:12:52.300 --> 07:12:59.060 He's still there with 32 last hits having a okay time while your monkey gang is being run under his own tier one towers 07:12:59.060 --> 07:13:02.680 All spread out around him from behind to get a bonus kill on Riddies as well 07:13:03.260 --> 07:13:09.760 A mirror double kill picked up as they can now press forward onto tier one top dream star for the Venom 203 07:13:10.540 --> 07:13:15.120 It's kind of a nice early item of this choice if you want to try and rush it it's still or something of that nature 07:13:16.420 --> 07:13:20.060 punishing these melee cores in the early game. This is when you're a 07:13:20.060 --> 07:13:25.080 distraught sterile. Your spells are insanely broken, so more action 07:13:25.080 --> 07:13:29.120 curry finds them in a war can set up for them happier they're gonna be overall. 07:13:29.120 --> 07:13:32.720 He gets a little wisdom trying to exp here. 07:13:33.720 --> 07:13:38.400 And a d-word. A lot of little things going his way. 07:13:38.400 --> 07:13:44.500 Pressure mounting on Nekir, but especially for him to get something done here is another active rune, get smacked away from him. 07:13:44.500 --> 07:13:52.500 Solid Guardian and the Spawn Zip in between Neku and his teammates. No chance for days already to react. 07:13:52.500 --> 07:14:00.500 Very quick play from Aurora. Because so much of this game is over the wait for this lane phase breaking down, rest on this Pangolier. 07:14:00.500 --> 07:14:08.500 Oh, can I call for the hero damage right now? I rarely call for this early in the game, but I would really be curious to see what this hero damage ring does. 07:14:08.500 --> 07:14:09.500 Look at that. 07:14:09.500 --> 07:14:14.780 4.8k on this Venom, that's what I was calling for, this is a level of like 4 Venom who just dealt 07:14:14.780 --> 07:14:18.620 5000 damage in the first 8 minutes. That's more than some calls doing an entire game. 07:14:18.620 --> 07:14:23.580 That's insane, I felt like it was high. That's insane, I'm glad I called for that because 07:14:24.220 --> 07:14:30.220 this is what this hero does, right? He's just so annoying in his laning phase. 07:14:31.180 --> 07:14:36.300 And he's here again with Makoto, they see the pango coming in so I know Tiny's now safe protected 07:14:36.300 --> 07:14:38.300 by a couple of buddies. 07:14:38.300 --> 07:14:40.300 That's actually wild. 07:14:40.300 --> 07:14:42.300 There's so much damage for support. 07:14:42.300 --> 07:14:45.300 I don't even know if there's another support that can do that much. 07:14:45.300 --> 07:14:48.300 Like net worth? Damage or impact? 07:14:48.300 --> 07:14:51.300 Oh yeah. 5,000 damage from Fairy Fire Branch here. 07:14:51.300 --> 07:14:53.300 That's insane! 07:14:53.300 --> 07:14:56.300 Yeah, what more could you ask for? 07:14:56.300 --> 07:14:58.300 And now you get to jungle. That's the beauty of it. 07:14:58.300 --> 07:15:02.300 Now you just get to flop some playboards down, farm up. 07:15:02.300 --> 07:15:10.300 That's really cool stuff here, up 3k early on and a lot of it's due to the support duo from Aurora just setting up so I slew the Ambicodo on them in lane. 07:15:10.300 --> 07:15:17.300 He really did quite well, did mess it up, made a nice rotation, now he's pretty geeked back to already up to 6 galvanized stacks on the storm. 07:15:17.300 --> 07:15:22.300 Nice attempt by Mira to catch the jumping monkey. Doesn't land the bush whack. 07:15:22.300 --> 07:15:27.300 It's going to be nice for him while Tiny's getting whirled down by PMA. 07:15:27.300 --> 07:15:28.300 Jeez, that damage. 07:15:28.300 --> 07:15:30.340 Into the shotgun and down he goes. 07:15:30.340 --> 07:15:32.900 This time, not protected by the Phantom Anster. 07:15:32.900 --> 07:15:33.900 Not respecting that. 07:15:33.900 --> 07:15:37.300 I'd have to go into the high strength here. 07:15:37.300 --> 07:15:41.900 That's great, Harvey. 07:15:41.900 --> 07:15:42.900 Desperately needed. 07:15:42.900 --> 07:15:45.500 Oh yeah, needed to play in this game. 07:15:45.500 --> 07:15:47.100 Niku is not having a good time. 07:15:47.100 --> 07:15:50.700 He's getting stolen by his Venomian, sir man. 07:15:50.700 --> 07:15:53.180 Level 8, he's like, guys, you know, I'm doing the Mal Ring build here. 07:15:53.180 --> 07:15:55.580 I'll help my ulti until a little bit later. 07:15:55.580 --> 07:15:58.700 I've got it. I want to use it suddenly sees three heroes in his lane 07:15:59.300 --> 07:16:04.780 Issue those who he's gonna play with him to give him that extra little on the roll ins with the damage follow 07:16:05.340 --> 07:16:09.740 Not a lot earlier. You just it's just you're gonna have to farm the diffusel and then start skirmishing that 07:16:10.140 --> 07:16:13.340 That's where Ror can start to pressure these towers makes the more moves of their own 07:16:14.260 --> 07:16:17.260 Joe bought a definitely help though really slowed down nightfall and 07:16:17.740 --> 07:16:23.340 You got a tower out of it as well. So a lot of space on the map. Just off that little cheeky kill 07:16:23.340 --> 07:16:30.020 do lose tier 1 mid. Moves like that could become a few of the far between though. WS with a 07:16:30.020 --> 07:16:35.460 solar garden could prove problematic if you do start on one of these heroes. Yes, you can use 07:16:35.460 --> 07:16:42.260 it offensively with a storm, but that reaction as well. If Navi do try and make a play, Aurora 07:16:42.260 --> 07:16:47.260 have a lot of tricks up their sleeve. Soul Spirit just gets to farm ancients to finish off his 07:16:47.260 --> 07:16:53.700 I like them start floating into Aurora, but that 3k lead has been mitigated a lot. 07:16:53.700 --> 07:16:58.100 That one kill bottom has done a hell of a lot, so open up the tier one. 07:16:58.100 --> 07:17:01.100 I think they're pretty happy scaling here though. 07:17:01.100 --> 07:17:04.060 I would be confident scaling this game. 07:17:04.060 --> 07:17:05.060 Especially with this storm. 07:17:05.060 --> 07:17:09.820 I think this storm can do a lot of damage in the late game with like one or two defensive 07:17:09.820 --> 07:17:11.420 items or some team help. 07:17:11.420 --> 07:17:14.540 You have the tiny good start fights where you have Dawnbreaker come back, you know, if you 07:17:14.540 --> 07:17:17.180 you get caught by the line. It's not that easy of an all-in. 07:17:19.580 --> 07:17:21.580 You have this one link you can play with in the mid-game. 07:17:22.420 --> 07:17:24.360 And if you get to that late-game stage where you have, you know, 07:17:24.360 --> 07:17:26.960 Parasma, Ag, Shard going through, you can pull 07:17:27.260 --> 07:17:28.960 even two of these heroes on top of each other 07:17:28.960 --> 07:17:30.760 or the melee course together, it's just... 07:17:30.960 --> 07:17:32.460 they're just gonna get annihilated. 07:17:34.000 --> 07:17:35.800 And so we're up to seven galvanized stacks. 07:17:37.200 --> 07:17:39.640 No, Niku. Just has to backtrack through the jungle. 07:17:40.500 --> 07:17:41.900 Try and meet up with his buddies at top. 07:17:42.140 --> 07:17:44.400 But this leaves active runes open for Aurora. 07:17:44.540 --> 07:17:47.940 I'm going to have a bottle of damn damage. 07:17:47.940 --> 07:17:53.100 I'm not full going to go and say bottom again, try and farm. 07:17:53.100 --> 07:17:57.020 I should all go around. Your enemy carry is farming, enemy mid-lane is farming, 07:17:57.020 --> 07:18:00.260 that amount is farming and your monkey king is sitting on top of trees waiting 07:18:00.260 --> 07:18:01.460 because he knows something's coming. 07:18:01.460 --> 07:18:05.940 Well they see the career reign. They see it bounce off the tree. 07:18:05.940 --> 07:18:09.820 Oh they know. What a good idea but 07:18:09.820 --> 07:18:14.140 move to the gate. It's going to be a little late. It's already successful. 07:18:14.140 --> 07:18:18.060 They need to be a little faster on that move. 07:18:18.060 --> 07:18:22.060 He landed, but a nice escape here, without the shoes. 07:18:22.060 --> 07:18:25.580 He'd go the early mage slayer on his monkey, so he is ready to join fights and have an 07:18:25.580 --> 07:18:26.580 impact here. 07:18:26.580 --> 07:18:27.580 It's a very good mage slayer. 07:18:27.580 --> 07:18:32.420 He wants some extra magic, because he's against overwhelming magical lineup. 07:18:32.420 --> 07:18:34.420 Reduce that damn Venom's damage. 07:18:34.420 --> 07:18:35.420 Oh, sure. 07:18:35.420 --> 07:18:40.100 It's definitely not going to keep up at that pace here in the game, but he did his job. 07:18:40.100 --> 07:18:42.500 He's taken another tier one top here, so 07:18:43.820 --> 07:18:45.820 Be some space for a war to play with 07:18:46.820 --> 07:18:51.220 No, they're swarming that bottom jungle. I'm playing with a bit of vision up in the high ground area 07:18:52.020 --> 07:18:57.620 Taking jungle camps. They wouldn't ordinarily be able to get starting to move in towards mid where the Phoenix 07:18:58.180 --> 07:19:00.180 Pending as the tree uses storm 07:19:00.500 --> 07:19:01.940 He zips in 07:19:01.940 --> 07:19:03.480 Aggressive without damage 07:19:03.480 --> 07:19:07.720 Days and really from the sidelines helped out by the monkey king jumps in from the tree top 07:19:07.720 --> 07:19:10.080 Okay, go to the Zips away, you're leaving Mira. 07:19:10.080 --> 07:19:12.080 There's that roadkill left on the floor. 07:19:12.080 --> 07:19:13.160 Nice tanky. 07:19:13.880 --> 07:19:15.880 Strengthreads, 1400 HP. 07:19:15.880 --> 07:19:17.880 Nice heat hero, bro. 07:19:18.800 --> 07:19:20.800 Just tanks, the finger walks it off. 07:19:20.800 --> 07:19:22.320 Nice collection for Navi. 07:19:22.320 --> 07:19:26.320 Especially not losing anything that's amp damage, that was a huge threat on that. 07:19:26.320 --> 07:19:28.320 14 armor on the storm. 07:19:28.320 --> 07:19:29.360 Pretty handy. 07:19:29.360 --> 07:19:32.360 When you're dealing with a lot of early physical damage out of this monkey and pango. 07:19:32.360 --> 07:19:34.360 Everybody's a tank in modern day. 07:19:37.720 --> 07:19:42.720 Now Niku, I don't have the fusel blade thinking about the roll and the thunder. 07:19:43.720 --> 07:19:44.720 Rune is bottled. 07:19:44.720 --> 07:19:47.720 Kira, try to get pushed to high ground for the damage. 07:19:47.720 --> 07:19:48.720 I think I pushed high. 07:19:48.720 --> 07:19:52.720 So quickly his corpse lands on the plateau above him. 07:19:52.720 --> 07:19:53.720 I made it, guys. 07:19:55.720 --> 07:19:56.720 Take my body home. 07:19:56.720 --> 07:19:59.720 You usually get dropped six feet under once you get upwards. 07:19:59.720 --> 07:20:00.720 Well, he's a snake, so. 07:20:00.720 --> 07:20:02.720 Ah, slithering it up. 07:20:02.720 --> 07:20:03.720 That's what they do. 07:20:03.720 --> 07:20:14.440 Oh, yeah, there's a dawn breaker in this game, huh? 07:20:14.440 --> 07:20:15.440 Top of the net worth again? 07:20:15.440 --> 07:20:20.320 Kind of forgot that WS was a chillin' to bomb and creeped. 07:20:20.320 --> 07:20:23.920 He's very good at constantly stacking the double camp as we saw. 07:20:23.920 --> 07:20:28.840 Just getting real fat, real early on this hero, not trying to force too many bad moves. 07:20:28.840 --> 07:20:32.200 He's had a perfect game here so far, 2-0-2, level 12 as well, by the way. 07:20:32.200 --> 07:20:36.560 two levels ahead of anybody else in this game, pretty much. 07:20:36.560 --> 07:20:38.760 So that's a nice little spot for him to be 07:20:38.760 --> 07:20:41.200 with the early LT2, get that lower cooldown, 07:20:42.200 --> 07:20:44.080 a little more impact. 07:20:44.080 --> 07:20:45.440 I kinda like how WS plays this hero. 07:20:45.440 --> 07:20:47.000 I think it's one of those better heroes. 07:20:47.000 --> 07:20:48.560 It's one of the better doll breakers in the world. 07:20:48.560 --> 07:20:50.800 He's just very methodical with it. 07:20:50.800 --> 07:20:52.280 I think a lot of times people feel pressured 07:20:52.280 --> 07:20:54.400 to do things or be involved in everything 07:20:54.400 --> 07:20:55.720 and their farm slows down a little bit, 07:20:55.720 --> 07:20:58.080 they're a little poor, they don't execute the lane as well. 07:20:58.080 --> 07:21:01.080 It makes this hero feel a lot worse by catching up sucks. 07:21:01.080 --> 07:21:07.880 I think it also plays really nicely in tandem with Mikoto's hero pool, which is obviously 07:21:07.880 --> 07:21:14.280 a spirit of going heroes, for sure, and then, you know, lightbulb moves itself straight onto 07:21:14.280 --> 07:21:16.840 Neku, up and pangaloo, gone. 07:21:16.840 --> 07:21:17.840 Too easy. 07:21:17.840 --> 07:21:23.000 I think when you give the player like Mikoto more firepower behind his hero so it's not 07:21:23.000 --> 07:21:26.600 just him trying to make the play, he's got to find open. 07:21:26.600 --> 07:21:30.600 Now a pushback on this phoenix. Starbreaker with the damage of Mira. 07:21:30.600 --> 07:21:37.600 She may be being tagged up by the poison and pretty nasty stuff here forced to chain down to low ground. 07:21:37.600 --> 07:21:39.600 Do you have a pushback of 2? Is he free? 07:21:39.600 --> 07:21:40.600 Close? 07:21:40.600 --> 07:21:41.600 Yes, up there. 07:21:43.600 --> 07:21:47.600 Not a fun spot to be in though, being harassed all the way back to your base. 07:21:47.600 --> 07:21:49.600 As WS goes back top to continue farming. 07:21:49.600 --> 07:21:53.600 Those big collects 2 kills straight back to top, full resources he is. 07:21:53.600 --> 07:21:57.400 live in the life 07:21:57.400 --> 07:22:00.120 well you know it how much of a target might fall compete 07:22:00.120 --> 07:22:04.960 install a gun to save your body so it doesn't have to be getting teethy all the time 07:22:04.960 --> 07:22:06.880 also might fall down 07:22:06.880 --> 07:22:10.560 start at his path to recovery 07:22:10.560 --> 07:22:11.640 eyes on great face 07:22:11.640 --> 07:22:14.320 just get shadowed and you get one kill you're gonna be 07:22:14.320 --> 07:22:17.040 pretty much top of the chart here 07:22:17.040 --> 07:22:19.040 I'm gonna scratch him to WS to be honest with. 07:22:19.040 --> 07:22:21.040 This guy is gonna crack 10k soon. 07:22:21.040 --> 07:22:22.040 That's fair. 07:22:24.040 --> 07:22:26.040 He's still working with BKB. 07:22:26.040 --> 07:22:28.040 He looks really spandered nut. 07:22:28.040 --> 07:22:29.040 Great! 07:22:30.040 --> 07:22:31.040 What's he gonna do with it? 07:22:31.040 --> 07:22:32.040 Don't know who's nut that is. 07:22:32.040 --> 07:22:33.040 I guess it's his nut. 07:22:33.040 --> 07:22:34.040 I guess it's his nut. 07:22:34.040 --> 07:22:35.040 It's foraging! 07:22:35.040 --> 07:22:36.040 Let's fix it up. 07:22:36.040 --> 07:22:37.040 Mid dive though. 07:22:37.040 --> 07:22:39.040 Get small techs back in but Makoto. 07:22:39.040 --> 07:22:40.040 He's surely eating the nut man. 07:22:40.040 --> 07:22:42.040 I should not have been there. 07:22:42.040 --> 07:22:44.040 He didn't up the trade him cause he gave him extra boost beats. 07:22:44.040 --> 07:22:46.040 He got there a little faster side. 07:22:46.040 --> 07:22:50.040 Well, they'll allow themselves to go on the Storm Spirit. 07:22:50.040 --> 07:22:54.040 Or they'll change stuns to take down Mikoto and even the catch on the Venom Anster. 07:22:54.040 --> 07:22:59.040 I bring the three Corsi, finally Narvi gathering their forces and getting something done. 07:22:59.040 --> 07:23:01.040 They needed to get something like that in this game. 07:23:01.040 --> 07:23:02.040 I mean, so quiet. 07:23:02.040 --> 07:23:04.040 Especially on the Storm with those galvanized stacks. 07:23:04.040 --> 07:23:06.040 You gotta reset him a little bit, you know. 07:23:06.040 --> 07:23:08.040 Let's get out of here. 07:23:08.040 --> 07:23:10.040 Ah, damn, from Mira. 07:23:10.040 --> 07:23:14.040 I'm gonna slide Storm on the way out, but now PMA's hot on his tail. 07:23:14.040 --> 07:23:17.920 doesn't have any friends so it's basically just down to PMA if you can 07:23:17.920 --> 07:23:22.560 catch this hoodwink. Don't say that man he's probably nice. It's just difficult to keep them. 07:23:22.560 --> 07:23:26.400 Just tend to sort. What the hell are the Phoenix and the Supernova? 07:23:26.400 --> 07:23:30.760 He'll just double crash and get an egg down. Three more hits. Oh, that's enough he's got it. 07:23:30.760 --> 07:23:36.480 The Venomata couldn't help out fast enough. Mirrod ends up dying. 07:23:36.480 --> 07:23:39.800 That was a weird response from the war. It was like really delayed and then they just got 07:23:39.800 --> 07:23:43.920 sucked into it so not only do you lose that hero you end up keeping a bunch of 07:23:43.920 --> 07:23:48.920 heroes mid including a tiny look for signs not there 07:23:48.920 --> 07:23:54.920 give him the run around right as Navi building up some early fighting items 07:23:54.920 --> 07:24:00.240 it was nightfall in that fight it's kind of nice having two Echo Saber heroes to 07:24:00.240 --> 07:24:03.920 deal with the egg but Tiny was just not involved 07:24:03.920 --> 07:24:10.920 he's gonna look for more action now with this Shadowblade completing 07:24:10.920 --> 07:24:12.920 That's sort of his timing. 07:24:12.920 --> 07:24:16.920 I have this monkey dead. Juicy monkey right here. 07:24:16.920 --> 07:24:19.920 His sword starts it off, then a tiny comes in. 07:24:19.920 --> 07:24:22.920 Lay out his stuns, the solar guard in, make sure the sunray doesn't heal him up. 07:24:22.920 --> 07:24:24.920 And then toss them into it. 07:24:24.920 --> 07:24:28.920 Killed off, and now Niku, that's a lot of damage from PMA. 07:24:28.920 --> 07:24:32.920 Stunning on the knifle's tiny low HP and shred it down. 07:24:32.920 --> 07:24:35.920 So the sword gets it done, but now he's being controlled up. 07:24:35.920 --> 07:24:37.920 Fullster reset. 07:24:37.920 --> 07:24:39.920 No way you chased there into the full-storm, Anna. 07:24:40.920 --> 07:24:44.920 I'm not about to turn around for Na'Vi, just gotta make the most of these aggressive moments. 07:24:45.920 --> 07:24:48.580 Gonna get that big tiny kill, feels pretty good here. 07:24:48.580 --> 07:24:50.420 Storm didn't get much out of that. 07:24:50.920 --> 07:24:52.420 This is where Na'Vi feels strong. 07:24:52.420 --> 07:24:57.920 Lion blink, Timber's level 13 with Kai'Sanj, tanky and tons of damage. 07:24:57.920 --> 07:25:01.420 I think you just find solo jumps there and you'll be really happy in those situations. 07:25:01.420 --> 07:25:07.920 And you still have a free pangody, so every time this rolling thunder goes off, you are very favored at that point in time. 07:25:07.920 --> 07:25:09.920 Pango's gonna have his blink soon. 07:25:09.920 --> 07:25:10.920 Ooooooh. 07:25:10.920 --> 07:25:11.920 And Kodo? 07:25:11.920 --> 07:25:12.920 Do you sniff it out? 07:25:12.920 --> 07:25:14.920 Yeah, and Lyon starts it. 07:25:16.920 --> 07:25:18.920 Blends you damage to dump into the storm. 07:25:19.920 --> 07:25:21.920 Didn't have Vanna for the finger, sad. 07:25:21.920 --> 07:25:22.920 Only one stack. 07:25:23.920 --> 07:25:25.920 Reliquid phase of play from Narvae though. 07:25:25.920 --> 07:25:28.920 Now Rora started running things with her aggression. 07:25:30.920 --> 07:25:33.920 Now they bring this Timbersword to the forefront. 07:25:33.920 --> 07:25:40.420 A hero that we've seen a ton, getting picked mid draft or late draft, really showing off his prowess. 07:25:40.420 --> 07:25:48.420 And honestly, becoming the carry of the game, you know, we're looking at both of the offlaners here, being top of the net worth, highest damage dealers, most annoying heroes to deal with. 07:25:48.420 --> 07:25:51.420 So they can just survive through pretty much everything. 07:25:51.420 --> 07:25:54.420 The timbers look pretty good the last few days. 07:25:54.420 --> 07:26:00.420 Any time ATF is playing that hero on win with this, it's gotta be pretty solid. 07:26:00.420 --> 07:26:06.340 Nice little objective here for Navi, not too easy, but they'll get it. 07:26:06.340 --> 07:26:09.820 Nice little sharp pick up too. 07:26:09.820 --> 07:26:14.660 Not a bad one here against all the pageant team, honestly. 07:26:14.660 --> 07:26:18.620 Still amazed at how high level WS is, he's almost 17. 07:26:18.620 --> 07:26:20.700 20 minutes in. 07:26:20.700 --> 07:26:23.500 What the hell is going on? 07:26:23.500 --> 07:26:27.620 So for comparison Storm is 14, as is Tiny, as is Monkey King. 07:26:27.620 --> 07:26:28.320 That's what I'm saying. 07:26:28.320 --> 07:26:29.320 Now, it's his bank! 07:26:29.320 --> 07:26:33.120 He just keeps getting farther and farther ahead. 07:26:33.120 --> 07:26:34.820 He's so efficient on this hero. 07:26:34.820 --> 07:26:35.820 It's wild. 07:26:36.820 --> 07:26:38.320 He's a beacon he's done, too. 07:26:39.120 --> 07:26:41.620 They can just sit bottom lane, keep pushing against the waves. 07:26:42.320 --> 07:26:44.620 Join that mid lane fight if they see someone to start on. 07:26:44.620 --> 07:26:45.420 And they do! 07:26:45.420 --> 07:26:47.820 It's Beacon who's trying to chip away at playboards. 07:26:48.420 --> 07:26:51.820 You just can't exert yourself into his mid lane 07:26:51.820 --> 07:26:54.520 to deal with a Venom Puzzle 5 playboard like that. 07:26:54.520 --> 07:26:55.420 And smart call. 07:26:55.420 --> 07:26:56.620 Didn't drop the Solar Guardian. 07:26:56.620 --> 07:27:01.620 So very efficient around the map, you did not need it for that kill while the single target burst damage. 07:27:01.620 --> 07:27:03.620 Do we go again on the monkey? Absolutely, you could here. 07:27:03.620 --> 07:27:07.620 I got the juice. He sees this catapult. Destructive. 07:27:07.620 --> 07:27:10.620 And there's the jump in the back there on the Venomance, a storm. 07:27:10.620 --> 07:27:13.620 It's like you wanted the Phoenix, but a quick hex out of days stops with his tracks. 07:27:13.620 --> 07:27:17.620 Now, though, with the solid guard in, Vortex grabbed, they'll kill the Lion off. 07:27:17.620 --> 07:27:20.620 Also, clipping the monkey king down from the treetops. 07:27:20.620 --> 07:27:22.620 I think I'll cut by the bees, though, actually. 07:27:22.620 --> 07:27:32.060 actually there's some tree cutting on this WI I'll look out a little bit I don't 07:27:32.060 --> 07:27:36.100 have any friendly flower out timbers full Phoenix we saw some friendly fire last 07:27:36.100 --> 07:27:40.460 game that's all gonna stay that chrono those look friendly fire chrono what do 07:27:40.460 --> 07:27:43.020 you think they're gonna get revenge on him are you cronod us will cut your 07:27:43.020 --> 07:27:47.700 trees I guarantee you happen to point scheme 07:27:47.700 --> 07:27:54.300 He's looking for teslo charges, that's why he's kind of stuck to this. 07:27:54.300 --> 07:27:57.100 Hlayer, teslo monkey, zero charges. 07:27:57.100 --> 07:27:59.540 Double heat, he's on this dawnbreaker. 07:27:59.540 --> 07:28:00.540 What? 07:28:00.540 --> 07:28:01.540 What? 07:28:01.540 --> 07:28:03.040 I mean, it's just free farm? 07:28:03.040 --> 07:28:04.040 Is that what I'm playing? 07:28:04.040 --> 07:28:05.040 Caxon or something? 07:28:05.040 --> 07:28:06.040 I don't understand. 07:28:06.040 --> 07:28:07.040 What? 07:28:07.040 --> 07:28:10.940 He's just extracting Morgul next beat from this game. 07:28:10.940 --> 07:28:13.700 Has he got some xp talent? 07:28:13.700 --> 07:28:16.540 Have we brought those back into the game? 07:28:16.540 --> 07:28:22.540 So much check PC please, PC check, Padman. 07:28:22.540 --> 07:28:27.540 Are we even a chicken? Greed is good, I see dead people. 07:28:27.540 --> 07:28:29.540 What was it? There's no XP on that wasn't it? 07:28:31.540 --> 07:28:33.540 10k damage out of the way. 07:28:33.540 --> 07:28:38.540 So we're a couple of games in Dota Visions, we got played with broken experience game. 07:28:38.540 --> 07:28:39.540 Online. 07:28:39.540 --> 07:28:40.540 Oh yeah? 07:28:40.540 --> 07:28:41.540 Yeah I was in 1-0. 07:28:42.540 --> 07:28:44.540 Like built into the game? 07:28:44.540 --> 07:28:45.540 Yeah it was bugged. 07:28:46.540 --> 07:28:48.820 So here we're just getting more experience in the game. 07:28:48.820 --> 07:28:52.320 I remember we played a BOT against Mertis Pro when they were in their prime. 07:28:52.320 --> 07:28:58.720 And whoever was on Rhee, or whoever was on Dyer, was getting double XP. 07:28:58.720 --> 07:28:59.720 Oh. 07:28:59.720 --> 07:29:04.300 From everything, from everything, and they just smoked us. 07:29:04.300 --> 07:29:07.700 And then we learned about it half way through the series, and it's like, well, we can't 07:29:07.700 --> 07:29:09.200 do anything about it. 07:29:09.200 --> 07:29:12.260 So we have to play with the bug in game two to bounce it out, right? 07:29:12.260 --> 07:29:13.260 Yeah. 07:29:13.260 --> 07:29:15.100 And so then we went to the broken side, and we still got smoked. 07:29:15.100 --> 07:29:17.100 That was that was really hurt 07:29:18.460 --> 07:29:23.820 To get run at by VP. Yeah, when they're so much better than you that they beat you while you're cheating 07:29:24.380 --> 07:29:28.020 It's like yeah, that was the idea. I need a career change 07:29:29.860 --> 07:29:34.740 Let the Ramses the Ramses. Yeah, I mean they were smoking everybody. Yeah, they were hot 07:29:34.740 --> 07:29:38.540 I mean they won like four major in a row or something winning all the winning all the cars 07:29:39.740 --> 07:29:41.740 He's got enough mercs to last a lifetime 07:29:41.740 --> 07:29:55.060 I thought it was my mid with your trap apparently. 07:29:55.060 --> 07:29:57.060 It's just really good. 07:29:57.060 --> 07:30:01.860 Was that back when Denyce gave me more experience as well? 07:30:01.860 --> 07:30:02.860 Maybe. 07:30:02.860 --> 07:30:03.860 Maybe. 07:30:03.860 --> 07:30:04.860 Maybe. 07:30:04.860 --> 07:30:05.860 Maybe. 07:30:05.860 --> 07:30:06.860 Maybe. 07:30:06.860 --> 07:30:07.860 Maybe. 07:30:07.860 --> 07:30:11.260 I mean, Navi, think about playing through this Timbersoul. 07:30:11.260 --> 07:30:12.260 It's level 16. 07:30:12.260 --> 07:30:13.260 Nothing about Roche. 07:30:13.260 --> 07:30:14.260 Agonyceptor. 07:30:14.260 --> 07:30:16.260 This is an interesting Roche call. 07:30:16.260 --> 07:30:21.660 Like, okay, if you're not going to do anything, as a Roa, we're just going to take objectives 07:30:21.660 --> 07:30:22.660 off the map. 07:30:22.660 --> 07:30:29.060 Not the fastest one, but there's no signal, no intent that we can test it as a Roa. 07:30:29.060 --> 07:30:30.060 No one's nearby. 07:30:30.060 --> 07:30:33.460 There's scan, no vision, no play rules, no nothing. 07:30:33.460 --> 07:30:40.060 Really, Navi are getting away with more on this map than they could have in Aurora had played it perfectly. 07:30:40.060 --> 07:30:45.860 Because they have decent heroes at hunting, you know, this, this tiny right around the storm to jump anybody with sword or any backup. 07:30:45.860 --> 07:30:51.260 They just haven't really found chain pickoffs, haven't found a lot that's even with Benno kind of taking some space away from Navi. 07:30:51.260 --> 07:30:55.060 So Navi have done a decent job playing from the defense. 07:30:55.060 --> 07:30:57.860 And I'm just finding a lot of farm on these top two cores. 07:30:57.860 --> 07:31:05.660 Get into position now, he's got bags full of agonist Timberstores, pretty much untouchable. 07:31:05.660 --> 07:31:09.660 Make a jump on him and he turns quickly onto you. 07:31:09.660 --> 07:31:13.900 Catch onto the Phantom answer with a rolling thunder, crash in, deal with Kaori. 07:31:13.900 --> 07:31:19.100 The animation has that one all locked up, while the pango weren't fishing all the way 07:31:19.100 --> 07:31:20.100 in the back. 07:31:20.100 --> 07:31:24.100 Got a bit of vision here on the dawn breaker, but his teammates need a little bit of time 07:31:24.100 --> 07:31:25.100 to catch up. 07:31:25.100 --> 07:31:31.100 I'll put into high ground off the tree, I'm not going to do too much about her. 07:31:31.100 --> 07:31:36.100 Yeah, it's felt like Aurora should be the ones that are zipping in, solar gardening, 07:31:36.100 --> 07:31:39.100 having this tiny inbiz and hunting. 07:31:39.100 --> 07:31:41.100 But Navi now have what? 07:31:41.100 --> 07:31:42.100 BKB Monkey King? 07:31:42.100 --> 07:31:46.100 Phoenix is level 12, Timbersaw has the bling on top of all these tanky items 07:31:46.100 --> 07:31:49.100 so he can actually make that surprise jump and blow someone up. 07:31:49.100 --> 07:31:52.100 That numbers advantage game that Aurora were looking for. 07:31:52.100 --> 07:31:54.100 Nice, it's Navi's now. 07:31:55.260 --> 07:32:01.100 Tiny's gonna blow up the Lion though with a quick little 1-2 tap down, and the Storm's sipping towards this Timberstore again. 07:32:01.340 --> 07:32:04.540 Solar Guardian and Tiny's damage. As a Cyclone, 07:32:05.260 --> 07:32:11.280 into the sky, just throw things off and finish him off with a gem dropped on the ground. Even more money into their pockets. 07:32:11.660 --> 07:32:15.660 Really big to get the gem there. When you have this Nightfall Tiny running around in viz. 07:32:16.020 --> 07:32:19.020 That was one of your best defensive mechanisms against it. Now that's gone. 07:32:19.020 --> 07:32:26.020 Nice little entryway here for Neyfalta, a certain dominant. 07:32:26.020 --> 07:32:30.020 How much you can do to ask for that? 07:32:30.020 --> 07:32:37.020 Isolated heroes are going to be a big problem for Naughty. Aurora can ever just... all dogpile 07:32:37.020 --> 07:32:44.020 on one dude at the same time. They have so much single target burst, and you don't have 07:32:44.020 --> 07:32:46.020 saves, so it's just a nightmare. 07:32:46.020 --> 07:32:48.220 You don't have saves, you don't have AoE really? 07:32:48.220 --> 07:32:49.420 Well, what are you relying on? 07:32:49.420 --> 07:32:52.020 That's what I'm saying, like, to stop me. 07:32:52.020 --> 07:32:54.220 It's like rolling thunder with the Wukong. 07:32:54.220 --> 07:32:54.820 Yeah. 07:32:54.820 --> 07:32:56.820 It's awkward. 07:32:56.820 --> 07:32:59.120 It's kiteable. 07:32:59.120 --> 07:33:00.820 Now you have this gemless squirrel run around, 07:33:00.820 --> 07:33:03.120 so you have to deal with the map. 07:33:03.120 --> 07:33:04.620 You have Venom playgwards. 07:33:04.620 --> 07:33:07.020 A lot of vision mechanics for Aurora that they can play around, 07:33:07.020 --> 07:33:08.820 especially in a static area. 07:33:08.820 --> 07:33:12.420 Between the two supports, you have the Distiller, 07:33:12.420 --> 07:33:15.320 plus the acorn, plus the vento wards 07:33:16.240 --> 07:33:18.400 the storm that can zip in and give vision zip out 07:33:18.900 --> 07:33:20.900 he could be makes him invincible in this game so 07:33:23.440 --> 07:33:28.100 the onus on Navi here is to find ways to start fights reliably 07:33:29.740 --> 07:33:31.100 either off of deep wards 07:33:31.480 --> 07:33:33.240 I like to force him to rush on for that 07:33:33.240 --> 07:33:34.600 like I think that's another way to do it 07:33:35.000 --> 07:33:37.600 just do an objective and make a ward decide if they want to fight you or not 07:33:37.600 --> 07:33:40.000 if they do then you can drop this wukong and you can drop the trolling thunder 07:33:40.240 --> 07:33:42.240 and you don't have to worry about punching them or starting on them 07:33:42.420 --> 07:33:51.860 I'm next time though, you're gonna be fighting into this triple BKB. 07:33:51.860 --> 07:33:53.360 It's calling. 07:33:53.360 --> 07:33:56.340 Tiny Dawn, we've had that for a little bit. 07:33:56.340 --> 07:33:58.340 Storm is about there. 07:33:58.340 --> 07:34:03.940 Doorbreak is already working on another flier, it looks like. 07:34:03.940 --> 07:34:06.940 I'm on 21. 07:34:06.940 --> 07:34:09.220 Tiny's overtaking him in net worth now, finally. 07:34:09.220 --> 07:34:11.220 Top of the board for Nightfall. 07:34:11.220 --> 07:34:13.220 I'm going to stop his harpoon. 07:34:13.220 --> 07:34:15.220 That was inevitable, I think. 07:34:17.220 --> 07:34:19.220 He's had so much map space to play into. 07:34:21.220 --> 07:34:23.220 He's slowly shifting towards this mid lane. 07:34:23.220 --> 07:34:27.220 Navi's stopped and killed the hoodway for now. 07:34:27.220 --> 07:34:29.220 Nightfall trades out one for one. 07:34:29.220 --> 07:34:31.220 Got the juice. Going mana in mana with a tiny. 07:34:33.220 --> 07:34:36.220 He wants to fight this one, but his age is still having a minute left on the timer. 07:34:36.220 --> 07:34:40.220 Arora, oh they missed it. 07:34:40.220 --> 07:34:42.220 Dawnbreaker Boston has Solar Guardian. 07:34:42.220 --> 07:34:45.220 Kaori gets kicked out of his mid lane by Got the Juice. 07:34:45.220 --> 07:34:50.220 Arora being quite defensive until this factory jump in from Nightfall, blows up the Phoenix. 07:34:50.220 --> 07:34:54.220 Solar Guardian forward, Niku bashed up and stunned, getting controlled on his way out. 07:34:54.220 --> 07:35:00.220 WSBK Beads trying to starbreaker into the middle of them while Nightfall is standing his ground. 07:35:00.220 --> 07:35:03.220 Vortex back with the Monkey King, he's gonna find him and blow him up. 07:35:03.220 --> 07:35:06.140 The first life gone, but Niku just rolls away. 07:35:06.140 --> 07:35:09.100 PMA. Big bad Timbersmore's arrived. 07:35:09.100 --> 07:35:13.700 His BKB have got the juice, and Office Detection gets the magic, but not against Nifor's right clicks. 07:35:13.700 --> 07:35:14.960 And he's down and out! 07:35:14.960 --> 07:35:19.260 WS still able to tank through it while PMA couldn't stick on a target, he's been kiting around. 07:35:19.260 --> 07:35:21.260 BKB TP out from Nifor. 07:35:22.560 --> 07:35:24.340 Did nothing, he couldn't do anything. 07:35:24.340 --> 07:35:28.900 No! Perfect like I am in the fight, but he even gonna get dazed at the end. 07:35:29.580 --> 07:35:31.220 And Cherry on top. 07:35:31.220 --> 07:35:38.220 Great fight from Nightfell, he has to be the damage leader in that, I mean he found so many good connections, double avalanche on that re-initiation. 07:35:38.220 --> 07:35:46.220 He just ignores him for the entire time, absolutely the right column for ya. 5400. Beautiful fight from him, getting a lot of work done. 07:35:46.220 --> 07:35:48.220 Some of these timings taken over this game. 07:35:49.220 --> 07:35:57.220 And that's where I go, like division mechanics, the multiple sources of initiation just seems easier for Aurora to kind of pick and choose who they're going on and how. 07:35:57.220 --> 07:36:00.220 and you've got these big cores from Naughty running around. 07:36:00.220 --> 07:36:01.660 What did you get out of your Wukong here? 07:36:01.660 --> 07:36:03.300 What did you get out of your rolling thunder? 07:36:03.300 --> 07:36:04.580 Your Aegis. 07:36:04.580 --> 07:36:05.740 Yeah, even the Aegis. 07:36:05.740 --> 07:36:07.020 Didn't really do a lot for you here 07:36:07.020 --> 07:36:09.300 because you can't freak the damage from the lockdown. 07:36:09.300 --> 07:36:12.220 You're just wailing on this tiny. 07:36:12.220 --> 07:36:14.260 He just takes it. 07:36:14.260 --> 07:36:15.820 Too big to take. 07:36:15.820 --> 07:36:17.460 Too bad to me. 07:36:17.460 --> 07:36:21.180 If the line is dead, you literally have no sons. 07:36:21.180 --> 07:36:23.780 So you're just watching the Rory heroes back away, 07:36:23.780 --> 07:36:26.700 re-enter back, just swiping through their abilities, 07:36:26.700 --> 07:36:30.540 Re-setting over and over again and monkey king getting tacked up by all the damage over time 07:36:30.540 --> 07:36:32.740 He can't jump the tree tops can't hide away 07:36:34.580 --> 07:36:39.540 The pango rolling thunder to disengage and hide your agents not ideal for now be 07:36:40.420 --> 07:36:43.340 And they need to push towards the Hatcher territory on pango 07:36:44.060 --> 07:36:45.820 Scotty monkey 07:36:45.820 --> 07:36:50.260 You can hack the Timberlater get some disables on their course. They're not as relying on the lion 07:36:50.620 --> 07:36:55.700 It would definitely help a lot in this game. Those are all big items and weighs away good. They invested in 07:36:55.700 --> 07:37:00.300 some early fighting here like Dag's timber the the deso monkey still the 07:37:00.300 --> 07:37:06.060 only has that the one kill on that deso and this comes back to that gem right 07:37:06.060 --> 07:37:09.740 the ability to just ward de-ward do what you want the tiny doesn't get 07:37:09.740 --> 07:37:14.900 scouted definitely a huge factor losing gem against this tiny is so miserable 07:37:14.900 --> 07:37:18.260 as you saw there you got to jump on your Phoenix Phoenix got nothing off in that 07:37:18.260 --> 07:37:24.340 fight that's a massive deal economic damage these dire supports nasty business 07:37:24.340 --> 07:37:29.340 Trying to make something happen now as Navi tighten up and play together in this mid lane. 07:37:29.340 --> 07:37:32.340 And show the pango swash on the wave. 07:37:32.340 --> 07:37:35.340 Looks like it's Aurora's turn to smoke back. 07:37:35.340 --> 07:37:38.340 Phoenix, well he's given up his position. 07:37:38.340 --> 07:37:42.340 Riddies with a dive away, but the Fendamats has already put the poison on him. 07:37:42.340 --> 07:37:45.340 Blind with a stun back, but Tiny's just in there. 07:37:45.340 --> 07:37:47.340 Two supports are obliterated. 07:37:47.340 --> 07:37:49.340 Now a monkey king BKB for what? 07:37:49.340 --> 07:37:52.340 He's gonna bounce us, try and jump, but he's still stuck on the cliff top. 07:37:52.340 --> 07:37:57.380 Lift up, Lukas comes out, try and change the guard and dodge away from danger, but he's 07:37:57.380 --> 07:38:01.860 being hounded now by Makoto, picks up the Monkey King and lands a row for Aurora. 07:38:01.860 --> 07:38:06.580 I am damaged doing a lot of work there for Makoto as he just lays the belt down. 07:38:06.580 --> 07:38:08.740 Now to 18 galvanized stacks, level 20. 07:38:08.740 --> 07:38:13.580 He's going to go into the Shiva's, build up some armor, he's going to have a null fire 07:38:13.580 --> 07:38:15.580 on the Stormbreaker. 07:38:15.580 --> 07:38:16.580 Tiny's coming for you. 07:38:16.580 --> 07:38:17.580 Knifel's ready. 07:38:17.580 --> 07:38:20.100 A couple of taps onto this Niku Pango. 07:38:20.100 --> 07:38:21.100 He's solo killed? 07:38:21.100 --> 07:38:22.900 Solo God is gonna come in and help out. 07:38:22.900 --> 07:38:24.500 Very nearly solo killed him. 07:38:24.500 --> 07:38:26.100 Needs a little bit of help though. 07:38:26.100 --> 07:38:28.100 Miracle? 07:38:28.100 --> 07:38:29.500 Egg on shot. 07:38:29.500 --> 07:38:30.900 Turn on the boomerang. 07:38:30.900 --> 07:38:32.100 The treetop. 07:38:32.100 --> 07:38:33.400 The shot shoots out. 07:38:33.400 --> 07:38:34.800 No, they can't quite get him. 07:38:34.800 --> 07:38:36.500 I have Pangolars still doing Pangolars things. 07:38:36.500 --> 07:38:37.800 What? 07:38:37.800 --> 07:38:39.600 We're a real hero, bro. 07:38:40.800 --> 07:38:41.900 20-26. 07:38:41.900 --> 07:38:45.100 There's no way you should do all that, but... 07:38:45.100 --> 07:38:47.300 I guess that they solo-garned a little earlier. 07:38:47.300 --> 07:38:48.900 You probably guarantee he dies. 07:38:50.100 --> 07:38:52.100 I almost still want to kill one of those. 07:38:52.980 --> 07:38:56.580 That was nearly pretty disgusting and uh, you have to jump. 07:38:58.100 --> 07:39:00.660 There's another one that I call. It's real tough right now. 07:39:04.420 --> 07:39:07.860 So what should I think about it? Do you see a hero? Just press your buttons on them. 07:39:08.580 --> 07:39:10.820 Supernova. Gonna get clicked down here. 07:39:11.780 --> 07:39:13.140 And it gets scrambled. 07:39:13.140 --> 07:39:19.380 Navi, they put PMA on the front lines, charging forward to try and get on top of someone with 07:39:19.380 --> 07:39:22.520 Monkey and Pango bringing up the rear. 07:39:22.520 --> 07:39:23.520 No rolling thunder. 07:39:23.520 --> 07:39:24.520 What kind of street? 07:39:24.520 --> 07:39:25.520 I told you what happened! 07:39:25.520 --> 07:39:26.520 I told you! 07:39:26.520 --> 07:39:27.520 Monkey! 07:39:27.520 --> 07:39:28.520 I told you! 07:39:28.520 --> 07:39:29.520 Oh! 07:39:29.520 --> 07:39:30.520 Oh no, Navi! 07:39:30.520 --> 07:39:36.680 And now there's Pangal here, rolling up and getting walloped, crashing, bang! 07:39:36.680 --> 07:39:41.040 Down he goes, mirror dives in, nullifying the timber source, a new Agoniteceptor for 07:39:41.040 --> 07:39:42.040 him! 07:39:42.040 --> 07:39:45.240 The guard in forward, not many crumbling, it's all falling apart. 07:39:45.240 --> 07:39:48.360 The threat has been pulled, he'll come back and kill Mira at least. 07:39:48.360 --> 07:39:53.720 But the bashers and the stuns connect, or the finger of death, with a tower hit, that's 07:39:53.720 --> 07:39:54.720 not enough! 07:39:54.720 --> 07:39:56.600 Not even a trade kill out of it. 07:39:56.600 --> 07:40:00.000 I kind of, I suppose Sloth can't pick up the gem here, he's gonna have to sacrifice 07:40:00.000 --> 07:40:01.000 something. 07:40:01.000 --> 07:40:02.840 Good guy, let me get a bottle of someone. 07:40:02.840 --> 07:40:04.320 Give me a WX. 07:40:04.320 --> 07:40:05.320 Good teamwork. 07:40:05.320 --> 07:40:06.320 Damn, what a fight. 07:40:06.320 --> 07:40:11.680 I don't know why this tiny just broke this game open, they don't have anybody who can 07:40:11.680 --> 07:40:16.200 really tank this combo and not pay a huge price for it. Just dealing so much damage 07:40:16.200 --> 07:40:19.880 to all these engagements. WS has a free fight because he can just enter on top of that and 07:40:19.880 --> 07:40:23.840 he's chasing people down, bashing them, doing whatever he wants. They're just playing this 07:40:23.840 --> 07:40:29.640 game 4v5. Every single fight is 4v5. It's still easy to kite, right? You kill lion, you kite 07:40:29.640 --> 07:40:35.760 back, sunrace the band, PMA's got nothing. Look at these hacks for scooping over there. 07:40:35.760 --> 07:40:37.760 What do you have to protect it nothing? 07:40:39.760 --> 07:40:46.480 Absolutely nothing. I just knew this tree coat was coming man. I knew was coming at some point scheme 07:40:47.920 --> 07:40:53.760 It's the worst place in plan for it to happen for him. There's like one tree here, and they're both going for it. Yeah, good to work 07:40:55.840 --> 07:41:01.460 Half moon does get blink dogs for that fucking let's strand it deforestation 07:41:01.460 --> 07:41:10.480 And then Aurora just diving up onto high ground past the tier 3's, a big ol' toss in, near 07:41:10.480 --> 07:41:11.480 a snipped skywards. 07:41:11.480 --> 07:41:15.480 That's the little freeze frame right there, the beast of death. 07:41:15.480 --> 07:41:18.480 That's the what the fuck am I watching face? 07:41:18.480 --> 07:41:20.480 It's now Daisy being zipped upon by Makoto. 07:41:20.480 --> 07:41:22.480 Just a feeding frenzy man. 07:41:22.480 --> 07:41:25.980 Na'vi, the lion, the first man down, means they've got no stuns, which means the monkey 07:41:25.980 --> 07:41:28.980 king inside his Wukong's command has got no stuns. 07:41:28.980 --> 07:41:32.660 Which means the Monkey King inside his Mucon's command has got no friends to help him. 07:41:33.220 --> 07:41:37.220 Nothing has stopped the advance, the onslaught of Aurora fighting another pick-off. 07:41:39.220 --> 07:41:44.660 A 20k lead, and Game 3, we thought these drafts would be more well-balanced than the previous ones. 07:41:45.140 --> 07:41:47.700 But Aurora's saying, no! We've got the Knifel Tiny! 07:41:48.260 --> 07:41:51.380 We're at 25s on the dawn and the tiny year. 07:41:51.380 --> 07:41:53.780 Oof! Super nice pounds. 07:41:53.940 --> 07:41:56.660 Ah, his team just got smoked out of nowhere. 07:41:56.660 --> 07:42:02.340 I felt it really went obvious way other than I guess PMA kind of getting some stuff done on this timber 07:42:02.840 --> 07:42:09.140 The pango was completely neutralized as much in picking really have impact. He's still sitting on two deso charges 07:42:09.780 --> 07:42:11.780 Never found anything with this build up 07:42:14.780 --> 07:42:16.780 That goes a line of barracks 07:42:17.980 --> 07:42:23.380 Still a mid tier two, but there's an outside damage room down the bottom spot choose here 07:42:23.380 --> 07:42:27.380 down to it give it to tiny 07:42:27.380 --> 07:42:29.380 he's not gonna probably still take it 07:42:29.380 --> 07:42:31.380 oh come on give it to him 07:42:31.380 --> 07:42:33.380 the thing is he doesn't need it 07:42:33.380 --> 07:42:35.380 oh damage already hit so damn hard 07:42:35.380 --> 07:42:37.380 no damage 07:42:37.380 --> 07:42:39.380 it's a waste 07:42:39.380 --> 07:42:41.380 it's over a kill 07:42:41.380 --> 07:42:43.380 oh no we got it 07:42:43.380 --> 07:42:45.380 no 07:42:45.380 --> 07:42:47.380 not allowed 07:42:47.380 --> 07:42:49.380 there's the pango basher 07:42:49.380 --> 07:42:51.380 that's part one of the control solution 07:42:51.380 --> 07:42:55.380 I expected more out of this Timber Sword, to be honest with you. 07:42:55.380 --> 07:42:59.380 But now, you will start to buy from Mira has actually undone this agonist timing. 07:42:59.380 --> 07:43:02.380 Usually we're waiting for dollar flyer or something to deal with it. 07:43:02.380 --> 07:43:05.380 Mira just says, okay, you press aggs, I use you. 07:43:05.380 --> 07:43:08.380 This is a great game to showcase in one of the weaknesses of Timber, 07:43:08.380 --> 07:43:13.380 which is you really need stuns in the lineup to play with and to amplify. 07:43:13.380 --> 07:43:14.380 Amplify his damage. 07:43:14.380 --> 07:43:16.380 They can't even kill Mira. 07:43:16.380 --> 07:43:18.380 Oh, Makoto's on the days as well. 07:43:18.380 --> 07:43:19.740 Moosefied time and time again. 07:43:19.740 --> 07:43:22.380 When the lion dies, there's no chance for Navey to fight. 07:43:23.660 --> 07:43:25.260 VKB's pinned by the Timbersaw. 07:43:26.620 --> 07:43:28.620 Monkey King doesn't have his either. 07:43:29.980 --> 07:43:31.100 It's a domesquare with Aegis. 07:43:31.100 --> 07:43:33.100 I'm pretty happy just to sit in front of tier two. 07:43:34.780 --> 07:43:36.300 I've got some vision here, Navey. 07:43:36.300 --> 07:43:37.340 Let's see what's coming. 07:43:37.340 --> 07:43:39.340 I just don't know if they can stop it. 07:43:42.220 --> 07:43:44.220 Nightfall working in the shadows. 07:43:44.220 --> 07:43:48.460 No heroes, it's just a wave to clear. 07:43:48.460 --> 07:43:52.300 I'm not gonna be angry too, Riddies. 07:43:52.300 --> 07:43:56.420 I'm not the easiest game for you. 07:43:56.420 --> 07:43:59.460 Downside of getting stormed to Aegis Heroes, you can't just hit the tiny on the high ground. 07:43:59.460 --> 07:44:02.460 It's a little tougher to break here. 07:44:02.460 --> 07:44:04.140 Should just be able to look for a jump though. 07:44:04.140 --> 07:44:08.260 Especially if you can throw some Peno words up there. 07:44:08.260 --> 07:44:21.660 Yeah, that's what I was about to say. 07:44:21.660 --> 07:44:22.660 Just watching the pings. 07:44:22.660 --> 07:44:25.460 Those little dire pings, they've seen Mira. 07:44:25.460 --> 07:44:26.460 They're doing fine. 07:44:26.460 --> 07:44:27.460 Alright, got a scalped. 07:44:27.460 --> 07:44:28.460 That was pretty clean. 07:44:28.460 --> 07:44:33.140 Now hold on to that base now. 07:44:33.140 --> 07:44:34.640 Double those deso charges too. 07:44:34.640 --> 07:44:35.640 We're on the board. 07:44:35.640 --> 07:44:36.640 Oh yeah! 07:44:41.640 --> 07:44:43.640 We're not in a rush to do anything. 07:44:44.640 --> 07:44:47.640 We need this WS Dawnbreaker to get six lives. 07:44:47.640 --> 07:44:49.640 But it's a blazing big deal. 07:44:49.640 --> 07:44:52.640 Alright, we're getting into the luxury items now. 07:44:52.640 --> 07:44:54.640 You can finish tags on the bell. 07:44:55.640 --> 07:44:57.640 So magic resist reduction. 07:44:57.640 --> 07:45:00.640 Quite good when your lineup contains tiny storm. 07:45:00.640 --> 07:45:03.640 You got that boomerang going out here, 07:45:03.640 --> 07:45:08.840 And you just finished Parasma the magic and plus reduction just scaled through the roof here 07:45:09.880 --> 07:45:11.880 These heroes are gonna explode 07:45:17.400 --> 07:45:19.400 Okay, okay 07:45:19.960 --> 07:45:21.360 Down goes days 07:45:21.360 --> 07:45:24.480 Monkey gonna buy back for this and they supernova something right in their face 07:45:24.480 --> 07:45:27.440 But Carlos going for the clicks to finish the egg and he's got it done 07:45:28.000 --> 07:45:30.000 They can buy back on the Felix now 07:45:30.000 --> 07:45:33.840 And it's got the juice makes a move for nightfall trying to bounce right forward 07:45:33.840 --> 07:45:36.000 He's so stepping and juke in half HP tiny 07:45:36.000 --> 07:45:39.360 He's gonna shrug it off and break free as WS gonna arrive 07:45:40.160 --> 07:45:45.520 Go around the edges of this Wukong's command finish off gaze one more time and dive forward trying to deal with Makoto 07:45:45.520 --> 07:45:50.240 But the monkey king is just being controlled up. They'll finish one life with the spill on but when monkey king 07:45:50.800 --> 07:45:56.440 reappears out of the statute taken down by Kaori now ready wide open to get blown up by WS 07:45:56.440 --> 07:46:06.440 3 kills, no buybacks on the side of Narvae, and Niko is being spam pinged. Looks like a last ditch effort to try and get something, some pride, something going their way. 07:46:06.440 --> 07:46:12.440 But he won't find a kill and he'll die, will Kaori? Shaka? Not enough to finish up the Phantom Master. 07:46:12.440 --> 07:46:17.440 Fear may have to dive in deep for it, but I would be nullified to stand packing back to his high ground. 07:46:17.440 --> 07:46:20.520 I bet he might be able to clean something up here. 07:46:20.520 --> 07:46:21.520 I don't know man. 07:46:21.520 --> 07:46:22.520 Sneak one out of him. 07:46:22.520 --> 07:46:24.020 In the middle of two of these guys. 07:46:24.020 --> 07:46:26.520 WS McCartney will offer plenty of damage. 07:46:26.520 --> 07:46:27.520 I've got him down. 07:46:27.520 --> 07:46:29.520 At least the doorbreaker falls though. 07:46:29.520 --> 07:46:31.520 PMA offering some good damage. 07:46:31.520 --> 07:46:33.520 Not PMA staying strong. 07:46:33.520 --> 07:46:35.520 Grapefiber in these little 26 now. 07:46:35.520 --> 07:46:37.960 Didn't get the tiny at the start of it. 07:46:37.960 --> 07:46:42.120 Not the worst fight for Navi to figure out the situation he was in. 07:46:42.120 --> 07:46:44.400 But how many buybacks was that? 07:46:44.400 --> 07:46:46.400 It was a decent one. 07:46:46.400 --> 07:46:47.920 He's definitely a decent amount here. 07:46:47.920 --> 07:46:51.920 He used Monkey, Tango, Phoenix, and so... 07:46:51.920 --> 07:46:52.800 Quad by... 07:46:53.760 --> 07:46:54.800 He didn't buy the Timber though. 07:46:55.520 --> 07:46:56.480 He's the real carry. 07:46:57.040 --> 07:46:58.320 He's got 7000 gold now. 07:46:59.120 --> 07:46:59.760 He's kind of high. 07:47:00.000 --> 07:47:01.360 I wonder where you buy in this situation. 07:47:01.360 --> 07:47:04.400 I would probably say hex, because it feels like you need some more stuns in this game. 07:47:04.400 --> 07:47:04.900 Yeah. 07:47:06.000 --> 07:47:07.200 Think an Octarene? 07:47:07.200 --> 07:47:07.840 Hmm... 07:47:09.760 --> 07:47:10.640 Hmm... 07:47:10.640 --> 07:47:11.140 Yep. 07:47:11.760 --> 07:47:12.960 More damage for sure. 07:47:13.760 --> 07:47:15.600 We don't want you to take something home to die. 07:47:16.400 --> 07:47:18.400 if you go stuck on that place as well. 07:47:18.400 --> 07:47:20.900 I think you just have to use the old money spells, 07:47:20.900 --> 07:47:23.400 because so much of the time in this fight has been 07:47:24.400 --> 07:47:26.900 trying to find this tiny kill. 07:47:26.900 --> 07:47:29.400 There's an entire other fight developing on the backside. 07:47:29.400 --> 07:47:31.900 That's what ultimately costs you so many buybacks here. 07:47:32.900 --> 07:47:34.900 So you technically have to take two fights, 07:47:34.900 --> 07:47:36.900 which requires two lives on all these heroes. 07:47:37.400 --> 07:47:39.400 Of course you're also fighting into the Makoto Ages, 07:47:39.400 --> 07:47:41.400 which is doing you no favors here, 07:47:41.400 --> 07:47:43.900 especially with the over 30 Galvanized stacks. 07:47:43.900 --> 07:47:47.900 Just as much mana regen to play with. 07:47:49.900 --> 07:47:53.900 And I got like WS, Dawnbreaker. 07:47:53.900 --> 07:47:55.900 Better metas the series. 07:47:57.900 --> 07:47:59.900 Might be going up the priority in the ban list. 07:47:59.900 --> 07:48:01.900 So it feels like they're pretty comfortable to pick it. 07:48:01.900 --> 07:48:03.900 It's not in phase quite early on. 07:48:03.900 --> 07:48:05.900 I think he will play this hero. 07:48:05.900 --> 07:48:08.900 Almost anything. He's always been really comfortable in the hero. 07:48:08.900 --> 07:48:10.900 There's a team playing well around it. 07:48:10.900 --> 07:48:18.540 And now we're all looking at another lane, tier 3 buildings, just up here under the weight 07:48:18.540 --> 07:48:19.540 of the tiny. 07:48:19.540 --> 07:48:26.300 37 Galvanized, by the way, after that place is Nisha territory, always a good name to 07:48:26.300 --> 07:48:28.740 be in the same arena with. 07:48:28.740 --> 07:48:29.740 Sure is. 07:48:29.740 --> 07:48:34.020 Speaking of side-device, better maps, I just finished off here. 07:48:34.020 --> 07:48:35.020 Ah, no, that's nice. 07:48:35.020 --> 07:48:40.740 Timber did get one, that's the right call, it's a big item. 07:48:40.740 --> 07:48:46.580 item for their lineup. Maybe a little too late here, but hey, if you can go in, Hex's 07:48:46.580 --> 07:48:50.860 Storm, blow him up. I think that fight is winnable. 07:48:50.860 --> 07:48:57.260 Not against Mega Creek yet. Just a matter of holding onto your base. Just trying to keep 07:48:57.260 --> 07:49:01.860 the high ground vision where you can. That's just where Storm thrives. Jumping from cliff 07:49:01.860 --> 07:49:07.300 tops, counting you out, but he was close to PKB and didn't get a kill out of it. 07:49:07.300 --> 07:49:09.300 Respect the Hexapack up here. 07:49:11.300 --> 07:49:13.300 No Roche for two minutes. 07:49:17.300 --> 07:49:19.300 So got a Navi. 07:49:22.300 --> 07:49:24.300 Last stick, Emperor. 07:49:24.300 --> 07:49:26.300 Find the hoodwink. 07:49:26.300 --> 07:49:27.300 That's a freebie. 07:49:27.300 --> 07:49:28.300 Got that damn squirrel. 07:49:28.300 --> 07:49:30.300 Dead for 70. 07:49:30.300 --> 07:49:33.300 Might not win this game, but we got that damn squirrel. 07:49:33.300 --> 07:49:40.500 I'm in this place, now I get some face time with the waves. 07:49:40.500 --> 07:49:47.100 Getting a little farm, a little bit of this, a little bit of that, 30k damage by the Timber 07:49:47.100 --> 07:49:51.740 Saw, 14 out of your monkey, but 12 from Pango? 07:49:51.740 --> 07:49:57.940 That's a bit of a rough one for the 1 and 2 here from Na'Vi, but they combine 5 and 07:49:57.940 --> 07:49:58.940 14. 07:49:58.940 --> 07:50:02.380 And look at a 14-3 and 8 tiny. 07:50:02.380 --> 07:50:04.940 He's making a jump straight and onto Riddies. 07:50:04.940 --> 07:50:07.500 Going for the better part for Minnet and Niku. 07:50:07.500 --> 07:50:11.500 Just keep him to exist 100 seconds without him and this is where it all falls apart. 07:50:11.500 --> 07:50:12.500 You got the juice. 07:50:12.500 --> 07:50:13.500 He's perhaps down. 07:50:13.500 --> 07:50:14.500 He's gone as well. 07:50:14.500 --> 07:50:18.500 And PMA left stranded, high and dry. 07:50:18.500 --> 07:50:20.300 Nothing to float back home on. 07:50:20.300 --> 07:50:21.900 No life raft. 07:50:21.900 --> 07:50:23.500 No golden parachute or anything. 07:50:23.500 --> 07:50:28.260 I'll try and BKB and jump and give him a bit of space for nothing to chase from a roar 07:50:28.260 --> 07:50:31.500 of an offensive catch up to him and take him down. 07:50:31.500 --> 07:50:36.820 He was just dying so fast, this Timber's kind of a beast but he needs the fight to go along 07:50:36.820 --> 07:50:41.100 so he can kind of kill people in return for him losing heroes and they die so fast for 07:50:41.100 --> 07:50:42.100 it so little. 07:50:42.100 --> 07:50:44.900 You know when you said it was a bit sad I said he had got no friends or buddies earlier 07:50:44.900 --> 07:50:45.900 on. 07:50:45.900 --> 07:50:49.940 Yeah he definitely doesn't in this game, he is just trying to solo carry this one, it's 07:50:49.940 --> 07:50:52.580 just not carryable. 07:50:52.580 --> 07:50:59.580 too much single target burst in a lineup with vision mechanics, a save against a lineup with no vision mechanics, no save. 07:50:59.580 --> 07:51:05.580 Like man, you would have had to execute some of this map. It's a perfection, another chance once you fall behind against this lineup. 07:51:05.580 --> 07:51:12.580 And when your BKB's down, this fed-up answer does so much work. Your axe is getting dispelled off by Nullifier and all this business. 07:51:12.580 --> 07:51:17.580 Now we're gonna jump onto the WS. Try and start without the hex and chakram. 07:51:17.580 --> 07:51:23.340 Your tier 4s are crumbling now and there's still 20 all the seconds until the cores are back up for Navi 07:51:27.340 --> 07:51:30.600 He's the code and grab a tree just smoked up 07:51:31.380 --> 07:51:33.380 throne is open 07:51:33.500 --> 07:51:40.580 Here comes the supernova the snowing ulti out of the Phoenix nice bolts from time for Navi. They're not out just yet 07:51:40.580 --> 07:51:46.780 This game 3 can continue, and in Timberstour, maybe we can show what he's got. 07:51:46.780 --> 07:51:50.140 Immediate hacks out on this Vennemanser though, and the dawn break is in on him while Nightfall 07:51:50.140 --> 07:51:51.140 has blown up Riddies. 07:51:51.140 --> 07:51:54.220 It's from a spirit we'll get the AOE Vortex to kill off the Lion. 07:51:54.220 --> 07:51:57.940 It's got the Juice, Wukong's, BKB with the rolling thunder over the top, but they just 07:51:57.940 --> 07:51:58.940 cannot keep tabs. 07:51:58.940 --> 07:52:02.940 On this Makoto Storm, we've got too much disengage, and so does the Tiny. 07:52:02.940 --> 07:52:07.860 Here they, down to low ground, still trying to catch up to Makoto while the Spogil Guard 07:52:07.860 --> 07:52:11.020 There's a round of the heads of the Monkey King and the Pangalare. 07:52:11.020 --> 07:52:11.860 GG. 07:52:11.860 --> 07:52:14.900 It's over. Gameplay goes well, Aurora. 07:52:14.900 --> 07:52:19.060 Take the series 2-1 and a very one-sided affair towards the end. 07:52:19.060 --> 07:52:22.140 I like that draft from them. I think it's very in their wheelhouse. 07:52:22.140 --> 07:52:26.100 At a certain point, they just flip the switch when that tiny's online and the whole map becomes unplayable. 07:52:26.100 --> 07:52:29.260 I think it's something we've seen from Tiny in general, which is why this year was the first thing. 07:52:29.260 --> 07:52:34.700 It's very hard to deal with his map pressure is once you lose your own map. 07:52:34.700 --> 07:52:37.660 Like once you start to lose some more as you lose the gem in this game 07:52:38.300 --> 07:52:40.300 Don't have these kids in the game 07:52:41.220 --> 07:52:46.060 Because it's tiny took the entire thing over they get cornered and every fight is I just got the solar guardian 07:52:46.060 --> 07:52:52.100 And just whack on people forever. So really walks you to here from Aurora that Venom did a lot of work early 07:52:52.260 --> 07:52:57.580 Except the storm out for the mid game and then tiny carries it over the finish line another great dawn performance at WS 07:52:57.580 --> 07:53:01.480 I'm at 1 in 22 on this hero. I had a ridiculous KDA in the series 07:53:01.480 --> 07:53:07.040 Very methodical, very comfortable, and I think for Navi, this draft got away from them. 07:53:07.040 --> 07:53:10.920 I think this one's just, there's too many little execution things that have to come together, 07:53:10.920 --> 07:53:14.440 too few stunts for this Tricorps to really play with, and they didn't get enough out 07:53:14.440 --> 07:53:19.640 of the pango, like this wasn't a good pango game, but what does he really connect with 07:53:19.640 --> 07:53:21.400 here in the first 15-20 minutes? 07:53:21.400 --> 07:53:25.400 Almost nothing, it was like 0-4, the supports couldn't really play through him, so I think 07:53:25.400 --> 07:53:28.680 that was the big focus point here that just did not work for this Navi line. 07:53:28.680 --> 07:53:32.440 I mean, they had that bottom-line play, which kind of whiffed, the line got caught out a bunch. 07:53:32.440 --> 07:53:37.880 It was very difficult for Daze to connect on stuff, so Game 3, go to Everora, taking the win in the series. 07:53:39.640 --> 07:53:44.440 Which means that Everora has had a very interesting pass in Dream League Season 29. 07:53:44.440 --> 07:53:49.240 The first two days were rough. They lost all of their series, three of them, 07:53:49.240 --> 07:53:53.880 created they were against the top of Sekunin Center Group. It was against Liquid, it was against Falcons, 07:53:53.880 --> 07:53:58.440 then it was against Spirit. Since then, they have decided to just stop losing. 07:53:58.440 --> 07:54:05.400 They beat everyone else on their way to this playoff bracket, and now they've won the first game in their playoff bracket 07:54:05.400 --> 07:54:10.580 They have taken down Navi and will be continuing in the upper bracket, which is a little bit 07:54:11.380 --> 07:54:12.660 concerning for Navi. 07:54:12.660 --> 07:54:14.820 Yeah, something that I said to Navi 07:54:15.600 --> 07:54:21.880 They got broken in the previous Blackout finals, but it seems like they needed like two good weeks 07:54:21.880 --> 07:54:24.780 to fully mentally reset after what happened. 07:54:24.780 --> 07:54:29.300 And the patch also dropped in the meantime, so they needed extra bit of a time 07:54:29.860 --> 07:54:33.080 Nightfall the most excited on steenim ever 07:54:36.380 --> 07:54:40.100 Little power speech guys we have done it yet again 07:54:41.100 --> 07:54:46.640 I'm goaded with Earth. I'm going on all my heroes go to BKB user 07:54:47.820 --> 07:54:49.820 most PPs of the game 07:54:49.820 --> 07:54:57.460 Proposition 1. Most pings as well. Most words used on TeamSpeak as well probably. 07:54:57.460 --> 07:54:59.460 We'll check those numbers. 07:54:59.460 --> 07:55:09.460 I think KP is also not a small factor on this team, I think, because they were down one game, 07:55:09.460 --> 07:55:11.580 and also the fact they lost the first three series. 07:55:11.580 --> 07:55:15.100 I think recovering from that is not a small feat, like it's very easy to just crumble. 07:55:15.100 --> 07:55:17.100 I think when you have a bad start to the group stage. 07:55:17.100 --> 07:55:20.220 So I think it's impressive and really good for this team. 07:55:20.220 --> 07:55:24.840 They are very strong mentally and able to recover because I think this is something a lot of teams have especially with 07:55:25.120 --> 07:55:30.000 players from a lot of different countries and all different regions like there's cultural barriers and stuff like that 07:55:30.000 --> 07:55:34.520 And so I think bridging that and still like having you know a solid team that can recover 07:55:34.520 --> 07:55:38.960 I think is a very good trade for them also speaking of like the whole cultural thing like at the start of the season 07:55:38.960 --> 07:55:42.880 I think it was Ali back in the start who was there and then later they replaced him with Kyori 07:55:42.880 --> 07:55:47.680 I didn't have that high hopes for them because I was like this is a really strange like iteration of a roster 07:55:47.680 --> 07:55:50.920 I was like this one's kind of weird and I heard other people talk about it 07:55:50.920 --> 07:55:55.520 But they definitely like bridge the gap they made it very nicely and I'll say it as it is like in this game 07:55:55.520 --> 07:55:57.320 I probably underestimate their draft 07:55:57.320 --> 07:56:01.280 I think they also played incredibly well like all of their moves they take the meteor one early 07:56:01.280 --> 07:56:05.120 They get all the runes on the coto like all of them played really really well 07:56:05.120 --> 07:56:08.240 I don't think there's that many mistakes that you could call them out for so 07:56:08.240 --> 07:56:10.240 So, just ask your gameplay. 07:56:10.240 --> 07:56:13.240 WS for me is the MVP pretty much of this game. 07:56:13.240 --> 07:56:17.240 He was playing a bit of a different game in terms of what he's doing, 07:56:17.240 --> 07:56:20.240 because you're playing Dawnbreaker, you're going to be farming on the other side of the map, 07:56:20.240 --> 07:56:22.240 you can see on the mini-map that he's just farming, getting the levels, 07:56:22.240 --> 07:56:24.240 the rest of the team, they're making rotations, 07:56:24.240 --> 07:56:29.240 but also the pick, I think, him playing this hero so well, 07:56:29.240 --> 07:56:33.240 and what makes this hero so good is you have a BKB piercing tool, 07:56:33.240 --> 07:56:35.240 items that you're buying in the late game, 07:56:35.240 --> 07:56:40.580 He's also going to be nullifier, basher as well, so you have multiple ways of countering 07:56:40.580 --> 07:56:44.100 whatever the supports are doing, or whatever the cores are doing, so it makes this hero 07:56:44.100 --> 07:56:47.380 super viable in pretty much any single draft. 07:56:47.380 --> 07:56:52.420 And also Alties that he used in the second game, third game as well, he didn't overlap 07:56:52.420 --> 07:56:56.580 anything, he came just when he needed to come, instead of just being there, you know, 07:56:56.580 --> 07:57:00.980 I have Altie, I click my R, I come into the fight, but he was also on top of the network 07:57:00.980 --> 07:57:03.180 pretty much throughout the whole game. 07:57:03.180 --> 07:57:09.380 It's just like this hero, when it's so the highest skill of dawn in my opinion, because it's not that complex of a hero to play. 07:57:09.580 --> 07:57:14.080 But when you see a guy like really rock the top of the net worth all the time, that's when you know that they understand. 07:57:14.080 --> 07:57:17.580 Because you're supposed to go to the play, then go out again and just keep maximizing. 07:57:17.880 --> 07:57:22.380 And something else that I really liked in this game, I think Mira was always in the right place at the right time. 07:57:22.380 --> 07:57:28.380 You also saw yet essence the slither with the yules, like just against the timbersaw to like purchase eggs, being the right place. 07:57:28.380 --> 07:57:30.580 You'll people just get more and more kills. 07:57:30.580 --> 07:57:34.740 I just think they played very clean. It looked a lot more confident and free. 07:57:34.740 --> 07:57:38.660 Maybe that's also by the nature of Navi. I didn't pressure them as much in this game, 07:57:38.660 --> 07:57:41.780 but WS and Aurora overall, good stuff. 07:57:41.780 --> 07:57:45.860 Yeah, I agree. I also think there was a pretty big mid-diff this game. 07:57:45.860 --> 07:57:50.100 I think Mikoto, he made two amazing moves, one to bottom and then one to top, 07:57:50.100 --> 07:57:53.060 killing both side lanes. Like right off the bat, you won mid, 07:57:53.060 --> 07:57:56.580 and then you also killed both side lanes. Like what more can you ask for in the first 10 minutes 07:57:56.580 --> 07:58:01.400 Compared to Nuku, I think at some fight near like 20-30 minutes, he's down like 3k net worth on storm. 07:58:01.400 --> 07:58:04.320 He got agged super late. I think he made some mistakes with his item build. 07:58:04.320 --> 07:58:07.340 He sold Blightstone really early, which nerfs your farm speed a lot. 07:58:07.340 --> 07:58:09.840 I think you should buy Treads, even if it's after Diffusal Blade. 07:58:09.840 --> 07:58:13.300 Like there's a few small things, I think that to me, like he knows these things. 07:58:13.300 --> 07:58:15.940 There's a little 30 Pangolier player, he watches replays, he tries hard. 07:58:15.940 --> 07:58:17.440 The guy lives and breeds Dota. 07:58:17.440 --> 07:58:22.240 To me, it feels more like a little bit of this than it is like a misunderstanding of Pangol. 07:58:22.240 --> 07:58:24.760 because I think he underperformed in this game, 07:58:24.760 --> 07:58:27.760 and it's a tale we keep telling of Aniku, 07:58:27.760 --> 07:58:30.500 that I feel like there's just inconsistency there 07:58:30.500 --> 07:58:33.760 that has to be fixed because when the rubber meets the road, 07:58:33.760 --> 07:58:35.880 you don't win tournaments if you don't clutch up. 07:58:35.880 --> 07:58:37.960 I just hope that this isn't the crack starting to show 07:58:37.960 --> 07:58:40.000 for further issues for Nave. 07:58:40.000 --> 07:58:42.800 If it's just a one-off, then maybe I do give the credit 07:58:42.800 --> 07:58:46.920 to Aurora, and their support players behind it. 07:58:46.920 --> 07:58:50.040 K. Ori, congratulations on the win, 07:58:50.040 --> 07:58:54.680 And you're past what you've won like the last four series now. 07:58:54.680 --> 07:58:58.120 So I was hoping to ask you about what you guys talked about 07:58:58.120 --> 07:59:01.920 after day one and two of going 0 and 3 07:59:01.920 --> 07:59:04.240 and now recovering to just winning everything. 07:59:06.960 --> 07:59:11.960 I mean, we just didn't practice much for this tournament. 07:59:11.960 --> 07:59:14.440 So we had like break. 07:59:14.440 --> 07:59:17.480 So first days was rough a bit. 07:59:17.480 --> 07:59:20.480 And now we kind of back a bit. 07:59:20.480 --> 07:59:23.600 So then for those first few days, I did hear from your coach 07:59:23.600 --> 07:59:27.000 that you guys hadn't prepared a bunch for this tournament. 07:59:27.000 --> 07:59:29.520 Did you guys get worried at all? 07:59:29.520 --> 07:59:32.800 Or you were like, ah, come on, it's Falcons liquid spirit. 07:59:32.800 --> 07:59:33.440 It happens. 07:59:33.440 --> 07:59:36.400 Let's just go to the next game. 07:59:36.400 --> 07:59:40.080 I mean, yeah, it was lucky we played against strongest teams. 07:59:40.080 --> 07:59:44.840 So we could afford to lose to them and win 07:59:44.840 --> 07:59:47.840 against, like, weaker teams after. 07:59:47.840 --> 07:59:48.640 It worked out well. 07:59:48.640 --> 07:59:50.640 Now you're moving in the upper bracket. 07:59:50.640 --> 07:59:54.560 But this series also went all three games. 07:59:54.560 --> 07:59:57.360 I'm sure it's not a happy memory. 07:59:57.360 --> 08:00:00.440 But what was it like playing Warlock in game one 08:00:00.440 --> 08:00:03.240 when this Night Stalker was just feeding on you constantly? 08:00:05.760 --> 08:00:07.360 I mean, I don't know. 08:00:07.360 --> 08:00:13.360 It's just a hard game, just so high tempo. 08:00:13.360 --> 08:00:19.360 We kind of have big heroes, we cannot really answer, so yeah, this was hard. 08:00:20.360 --> 08:00:24.360 It looked painful. I got Quinn standing by for a question as well. 08:00:24.360 --> 08:00:26.360 Okay, Oria, how's it going? 08:00:26.360 --> 08:00:33.360 I was curious how much of the team, how many ideas have you brought to the team versus like playing, you know, using older players' ideas? 08:00:33.360 --> 08:00:37.360 Because I know, like Nightfall and Mirror, they've obviously had a lot of success and been around this team for a while, 08:00:37.360 --> 08:00:39.360 so how much of a voice do you have on the team? 08:00:39.360 --> 08:00:43.360 Are you more of a leadership role, communicating a lot, or are you sort of a backseat and just play your game? 08:00:45.360 --> 08:00:56.360 Hi, I would say I'm just playing. I don't really do any impact on drafts or can play. 08:00:56.360 --> 08:01:06.360 Of course I call something, but I'm more focused on myself because in our team we have a lot of voice anyways, 08:01:06.360 --> 08:01:08.920 So I don't have to do it. Yeah 08:01:09.480 --> 08:01:14.080 Do you prefer to function that way or do you do you like situations where you communicate more? 08:01:14.080 --> 08:01:16.200 Are you happy to just sort of do what the team needs? I 08:01:17.520 --> 08:01:22.400 Mean I would say I'm happy because I'm more like focused on my game 08:01:23.080 --> 08:01:27.840 like and I feel like I'm playing better when I do this way, but 08:01:28.680 --> 08:01:30.680 I'm fine with both kind of 08:01:31.480 --> 08:01:33.480 Yeah, okay makes sense 08:01:33.480 --> 08:01:40.080 Yeah, you've got a lot of loud voices on your team, so I understand that there's not enough room for everybody. 08:01:40.080 --> 08:01:45.480 K-O-A, congratulations on the series victory, and looking forward to how you do against Spirit later on in the tournament. 08:01:45.480 --> 08:01:48.080 Thank you, Senjun. 08:01:48.080 --> 08:01:49.280 Catch you later. 08:01:49.280 --> 08:01:57.080 That is indeed their next opponent, because they are continuing to move throughout the upper bracket elsewhere though. 08:01:57.080 --> 08:02:03.280 Navi are now moving to the lower bracket, which is especially troubling for them because if they were able to win this series, 08:02:03.280 --> 08:02:10.280 They may have been able to lock themselves a little bit of the eSports to World Cup placement. Instead, they're gonna have to fight through the lower bracket. 08:02:10.280 --> 08:02:14.280 We have now done all four of the series in our upper bracket. 08:02:14.280 --> 08:02:20.280 We had Falcons taking on Tundra on Ember stream, and Falcons cleanly got that 2-0 victory. 08:02:20.280 --> 08:02:28.280 Not too surprising as Tundra just narrowly made it through the tiebreaker to even go into the playoffs, and Falcons make sure of it. 08:02:28.280 --> 08:02:35.420 of it. After that we also had two concurrent streams of a party vision versus liquid on our stream 08:02:35.420 --> 08:02:40.960 and that ended up being a 2-1 and we had Spirit vs. BedBoom team on the secondary stream which 08:02:40.960 --> 08:02:46.880 had Spirit getting a 2-0. Yeah, party vision against liquid that was a crazy series because we had 08:02:46.880 --> 08:02:53.320 mixed assassin with heart. They were 30k up and still unable to close out the game and we saw 08:02:53.320 --> 08:02:58.040 All part of vision on camera, never not to catch up on that one, or a good reason. 08:02:58.040 --> 08:02:59.480 You see that after losing? 08:02:59.480 --> 08:03:04.400 I mean, no one, he was going off in the camera after the game, for the right reason, absolutely. 08:03:04.400 --> 08:03:07.000 It looked like the angle was like talking to Static. 08:03:07.000 --> 08:03:08.520 I don't know how they're seated properly. 08:03:08.520 --> 08:03:10.400 I'm pretty sure 9-class is beyond Satay. 08:03:10.400 --> 08:03:11.400 I think so. 08:03:11.400 --> 08:03:12.400 It was good. 08:03:12.400 --> 08:03:15.080 The configuration of the players was good. 08:03:15.080 --> 08:03:19.900 The seating was nice because, you know, you showed some like choke potential. 08:03:19.900 --> 08:03:21.960 He could have choked him out for that hard. 08:03:21.960 --> 08:03:22.960 Straight up. 08:03:22.960 --> 08:03:25.760 Oh, you would have been like, nah. 08:03:25.760 --> 08:03:28.320 No one was 100% snapped him like a twig. 08:03:28.320 --> 08:03:31.840 But don't worry, they're not eliminated. 08:03:31.840 --> 08:03:34.400 They just get bumped down to the lower bracket. 08:03:34.400 --> 08:03:37.160 But the lower bracket is also full of sharks right now. 08:03:37.160 --> 08:03:40.000 A whole bunch of teams are waiting for their opportunity, 08:03:40.000 --> 08:03:42.800 especially teams that are also looking to get points 08:03:42.800 --> 08:03:44.440 to make it to the Esports World Cup. 08:03:44.440 --> 08:03:45.880 I'll show you the leaderboard in a little bit, 08:03:45.880 --> 08:03:48.840 but I'll first show you the arrangement of teams. 08:03:48.840 --> 08:03:50.560 Tundra, after losing to Falcons, 08:03:50.560 --> 08:03:52.880 are now going to be facing off against Virtus Pro. 08:03:52.880 --> 08:03:55.280 Party vision, oh yeah, never mind, they won anyway. 08:03:55.280 --> 08:03:56.280 Wait. 08:03:56.280 --> 08:03:57.480 Parity vision, party vision won, yeah. 08:03:57.480 --> 08:03:59.600 So I mean, it's all as well that ends well. 08:03:59.600 --> 08:04:00.440 Ah! 08:04:00.440 --> 08:04:01.280 Yeah! 08:04:01.280 --> 08:04:02.120 It's all as well that ends well. 08:04:02.120 --> 08:04:03.640 It's fun, it's fun to remember. 08:04:03.640 --> 08:04:05.800 Call us the guy who's neck went. 08:04:05.800 --> 08:04:07.920 Wait, extreme gaming aren't... 08:04:09.080 --> 08:04:09.920 Are they? 08:04:09.920 --> 08:04:10.840 Oh, wait. 08:04:10.840 --> 08:04:12.480 Oh yeah, the tiebreaker was just for... 08:04:12.480 --> 08:04:14.200 It was just for after the one that's been 08:04:14.200 --> 08:04:16.200 kind of got out, and now they went down anyway. 08:04:16.200 --> 08:04:19.360 Yeah, so extreme are going to be playing against Liquid. 08:04:19.360 --> 08:04:25.800 BedBoom team are playing against Vici Gaming and Na'Vi now will be playing against Playtime. 08:04:25.800 --> 08:04:31.020 So, we have a variety of teams that are competing for points right now. 08:04:31.020 --> 08:04:32.860 Na'Vi are on the edge. 08:04:32.860 --> 08:04:39.360 We've got BedBoom team which are not fully locked, but they are comfortable. 08:04:39.360 --> 08:04:42.660 But nothing guaranteed quite yet. 08:04:42.660 --> 08:04:44.160 OG right now are sweating. 08:04:44.160 --> 08:04:47.660 They are praying. They are praying that no one overtakes them. 08:04:47.660 --> 08:04:56.060 And yes, Na'Vi, if they had won this series, they would have guaranteed themselves a lock into the top 12. 08:04:56.860 --> 08:05:00.660 And then there's one more team, VP. VP are also hoping to get points. 08:05:00.660 --> 08:05:02.860 Playtime? Did you switch to playtime? 08:05:03.860 --> 08:05:15.460 They're under, they can still make it too. I think they're under, like this cost a little bit, because I know that OG, they're like praying and hoping, whereas we mentioned BedBoom, who are quite far up, like they can also still make it. 08:05:15.660 --> 08:05:17.260 So, Na'Vi too? 08:05:17.260 --> 08:05:23.740 Navi they're playing against playtime as well. Yeah, you're gonna be very important here. Yeah spicy one 08:05:23.740 --> 08:05:25.340 I also think in some ways 08:05:25.340 --> 08:05:28.020 I think it might be a bad match up for Navi because I think this playtime team 08:05:28.020 --> 08:05:31.020 I feel like they don't play worse in high-pressure games 08:05:31.020 --> 08:05:33.860 I always play the same like this go feel like 08:05:35.740 --> 08:05:40.580 Killer yeah, he's an ice-cold killer dog. Look who's playing the same hero. He's played every game for 10,000 games 08:05:40.580 --> 08:05:43.460 He's not gonna play any different like that's a scary matchup 08:05:43.460 --> 08:05:46.740 I think if you're a Navi fan trying to see them get in the top 12. We have a new name 08:05:47.260 --> 08:05:50.100 On the board to Nami. We have locked in 08:05:50.540 --> 08:05:55.380 Mows they are guaranteed based off of the way that our group stage played off 08:05:55.380 --> 08:06:01.020 There are no other teams that can leapfrog mouths and bump them out of the top 13 slots 08:06:01.180 --> 08:06:03.580 Because Spirit also get their defending champion slot 08:06:03.580 --> 08:06:09.940 So your goal if you are a fan of any of the teams on the edge is that they need to make it into top 13 08:06:09.940 --> 08:06:15.400 game religion unfortunately it is no longer possible for them but wait the 08:06:15.400 --> 08:06:19.120 Navi are no no because playtime can overtake them Navi's 13 they're not 08:06:19.120 --> 08:06:24.120 even in well 13 counts because spirit get their difference okay okay okay 08:06:24.120 --> 08:06:28.360 really the playtime Navi series is super exciting 08:06:28.360 --> 08:06:33.600 series for tomorrow also regarding mouse like what mouse did this season on the 08:06:33.600 --> 08:06:38.800 road to EWC they got the ninth to 16th place at DreamLeague season 27 which did 08:06:38.800 --> 08:06:45.040 have 24 teams and then DreamLeague season 28 they got 8th place and ESL1 Birmingham they 08:06:45.040 --> 08:06:49.640 got 8th place as well. But they showed up to all these players. That's why the points 08:06:49.640 --> 08:06:56.640 matter. That's what matters and also Panto he just joined the team he's going for EWC. 08:06:56.640 --> 08:07:00.160 He's got to be nice to him. You have it ready you're like you want to join our team we're 08:07:00.160 --> 08:07:06.120 going to EWC he's like hell yeah. You say that like the team that he pulled up from 08:07:06.120 --> 08:07:10.720 their bootstraps on Team Spirit, I count their victory and their placement at EWC to him. 08:07:10.720 --> 08:07:11.720 He qualified twice, huh? 08:07:11.720 --> 08:07:12.720 Well, thank you. 08:07:12.720 --> 08:07:14.720 Falling him up by their bootstraps is like... 08:07:14.720 --> 08:07:18.720 He took these heavy ass collapse in your tour, like, get off of that! 08:07:18.720 --> 08:07:21.320 Panto Malan took the TI Winters to get on my back! 08:07:21.320 --> 08:07:22.320 Let's go. 08:07:22.320 --> 08:07:25.920 And then he was like, I'll do it again, I'll do it on mouse also afterwards. 08:07:25.920 --> 08:07:27.320 We're gonna wait for that one. 08:07:27.320 --> 08:07:29.320 Yeah, that's the narrative that I'm sticking to. 08:07:29.320 --> 08:07:32.720 Alright, you know, you pick your battles, that's the hill you wanna die on. 08:07:32.720 --> 08:07:34.720 Yeah, your tour and collapse, they're pretty heavy. 08:07:34.720 --> 08:07:35.720 Yeah. 08:07:35.720 --> 08:07:40.600 I like two feathers. We'll see how they do. Maybe maybe two EWC. Maybe they need the third one 08:07:40.600 --> 08:07:46.900 We'll say we'll see who you guys also had in terms of your checks predictions for it today 08:07:47.400 --> 08:07:49.400 we had a 08:07:49.680 --> 08:07:51.680 Mostly party vision leading 08:07:52.120 --> 08:07:54.120 But a little bit of a liquid 08:07:54.640 --> 08:08:00.280 Nami look at you getting two points now what I want your point is not what I wanted 08:08:00.280 --> 08:08:06.120 Man, they let me down. I had a feeling of my bones to the Aurora. I'm trusting my bones from now on. 08:08:06.120 --> 08:08:07.120 Trust your bones. 08:08:07.120 --> 08:08:10.120 Man, I thought Navi were gonna win. They let me down again. 08:08:10.120 --> 08:08:11.620 Only lack post goes. 08:08:11.620 --> 08:08:13.620 This guy's good. He's been on top all the time. 08:08:13.620 --> 08:08:17.620 But consistently, Effie is always one point behind. 08:08:17.620 --> 08:08:20.620 That's when it causes the best analysts to talk about it around the other shows. 08:08:20.620 --> 08:08:22.620 We do. Here's the badge. 08:08:22.620 --> 08:08:26.620 Yeah, Navi also let me down. Navi let me down and... 08:08:26.620 --> 08:08:28.620 And we'll see. T'Nami, you upgraded. 08:08:28.620 --> 08:08:29.620 Yep, from... 08:08:29.620 --> 08:08:30.620 That you still last. 08:08:30.620 --> 08:08:32.620 That's true. That's really what's important. 08:08:32.620 --> 08:08:34.620 But it's good for you, because you are, of course, lost maxing. 08:08:34.620 --> 08:08:35.620 Correct. 08:08:35.620 --> 08:08:36.620 You're fighting with Jenkins. 08:08:36.620 --> 08:08:37.620 Me and Jenkins are going neck and neck right now. 08:08:37.620 --> 08:08:39.620 At least PSG is fighting more bad. 08:08:39.620 --> 08:08:42.620 I don't think it's gonna be bad. 08:08:42.620 --> 08:08:44.620 I don't think he's dropping those Js. 08:08:44.620 --> 08:08:46.620 The answer is out of your fight, Joseph. 08:08:49.620 --> 08:08:52.620 Well, we'll see who he's gonna predict for tomorrow, 08:08:52.620 --> 08:08:54.620 because we have more playoff action 08:08:54.620 --> 08:09:02.980 And now elimination theories on the line first up. It's tundra versus a verse from the cost who you got 08:09:06.180 --> 08:09:14.380 They got through these tiebreakers they look pretty good. Yeah, and they don't look that hot today 08:09:14.380 --> 08:09:19.300 So I'd go with tundra in this one versus pro still yet to get on 08:09:19.300 --> 08:09:25.860 On their hype trains right guy. They it's kind of similar thing for Navi. I would say that's where this bro, but the 08:09:26.200 --> 08:09:30.940 Half half a step behind. Okay, I can see that seems realistic next up 08:09:30.940 --> 08:09:32.940 We got that boom team versus 08:09:40.940 --> 08:09:45.360 You don't get to talk five time let him talk that boom team they got this back to you kesel 08:09:45.360 --> 08:09:48.480 No, it's BBD Bobbity, they will win this one. 08:09:48.480 --> 08:09:49.840 Because VG, they're already secured. 08:09:49.840 --> 08:09:51.840 Jenkins talked about it yesterday, he was right. 08:09:51.840 --> 08:09:52.680 He was right. 08:09:52.680 --> 08:09:54.440 They made it through the China qualifier, 08:09:54.440 --> 08:09:56.360 and so they are secured, but... 08:09:56.360 --> 08:09:57.400 They don't ask you. 08:09:57.400 --> 08:09:59.440 No, I'm talking about his series. 08:09:59.440 --> 08:10:01.480 Bulba is back, first pick storm. 08:10:01.480 --> 08:10:04.040 He's gonna be silent, yeah, Bulba is on his feet. 08:10:04.040 --> 08:10:06.480 He's gonna silence the haters, pipe down, 08:10:06.480 --> 08:10:08.600 get your popcorn, and then Bulba's gonna take the popcorn 08:10:08.600 --> 08:10:11.320 and eat it all himself, because Bulba's leaving tomorrow. 08:10:11.320 --> 08:10:12.320 But just watch. 08:10:12.320 --> 08:10:14.560 We'll see who he predicts tomorrow morning. 08:10:14.560 --> 08:10:16.900 You better predict VP after the top guy predicts. 08:10:16.900 --> 08:10:17.740 Don't look at those, okay? 08:10:17.740 --> 08:10:18.820 Listen to my words. 08:10:18.820 --> 08:10:20.060 Do as I say, not as I do. 08:10:20.060 --> 08:10:21.580 This guy's faking so hard. 08:10:21.580 --> 08:10:22.420 Fake these nuts. 08:10:22.420 --> 08:10:24.940 I've got balls in my face. 08:10:24.940 --> 08:10:25.780 That's right. 08:10:25.780 --> 08:10:26.620 Lock that in. 08:10:26.620 --> 08:10:31.500 And our last series, Liquid versus Vici. 08:10:31.500 --> 08:10:32.340 No, wait. 08:10:32.340 --> 08:10:33.180 That was extreme game. 08:10:33.180 --> 08:10:35.380 Vici got playing two series tomorrow. 08:10:35.380 --> 08:10:36.220 What was that? 08:10:36.220 --> 08:10:37.780 That boom Vici. 08:10:37.780 --> 08:10:39.260 That boom Vici. 08:10:39.260 --> 08:10:40.660 That's what the graphic said. 08:10:40.660 --> 08:10:41.500 That boom Vici. 08:10:41.500 --> 08:10:42.340 Yep. 08:10:42.340 --> 08:10:43.180 So then we've got Liquid. 08:10:43.180 --> 08:10:46.640 Let me just not all check that and I'm he is losing that with how he's doing 08:10:46.640 --> 08:10:52.740 It's casual again. They could say who I have the memory of a goldfish. Just trust your brother. This brand trust me 08:10:52.740 --> 08:10:57.800 All right, fine liquid extreme. What do you got? That's the liquid W. Oh what actually has been doing? 08:10:57.800 --> 08:11:01.900 It's because even when they do good, they somehow find a way to fuck it up 08:11:01.900 --> 08:11:05.980 They go to the high ground and it's usually jaws of victory like they even did it cool things 08:11:05.980 --> 08:11:11.840 I'm it had like the eggs refresh on Luna everything's cool 25 K lead. Don't matter. It's not enough. They lose 08:11:11.840 --> 08:11:15.560 And we go back to the BedBoom team when they were playing against BedBoom team 08:11:15.560 --> 08:11:19.160 They also had like 30k gold lead unable to close out the game as well 08:11:19.160 --> 08:11:22.720 So I mean this is a team that plays for like 50 minutes 08:11:22.720 --> 08:11:27.840 I feel like this is some kind of a meme with them where they can't really close it out the average game time is 08:11:28.720 --> 08:11:33.600 45 minutes for everybody else and then for them it's like 50 plus 08:11:34.280 --> 08:11:36.280 Literally, that's what it was like two days ago 08:11:36.280 --> 08:11:38.280 You really love this team, don't you? 08:11:38.280 --> 08:11:40.280 I love that. 08:11:40.280 --> 08:11:45.280 You know what I don't like is for this season of Dream League, they didn't choose that one hero. 08:11:45.280 --> 08:11:48.280 Maybe like we can say, it's Rauranger, but they're always obsessed with one hero. 08:11:48.280 --> 08:11:53.280 It's Sniper, it's Tankardell from the mid lane, back a couple of Dream Leagues before, 08:11:53.280 --> 08:11:57.280 then they're obsessed with Juggernaut, and they always find a hero. 08:11:57.280 --> 08:11:59.280 This time around, it's Rauranger. 08:11:59.280 --> 08:12:01.280 It's Raur, we can call it. 08:12:01.280 --> 08:12:03.280 Nice to meet you. 08:12:03.280 --> 08:12:04.280 If they want to pick it. 08:12:04.280 --> 08:12:05.280 Nice job, Maurice. 08:12:05.280 --> 08:12:07.280 Keep it up the cost closest though. Oh 08:12:08.160 --> 08:12:13.280 Thank you guys for watching today was a good day of Dota dream league season 29 08:12:13.280 --> 08:12:17.840 We'll see you guys tomorrow starting at what time are we starting tomorrow? 08:12:17.840 --> 08:12:20.240 It's good. I mean, I believe we're starting at 12 08:12:21.600 --> 08:12:25.120 CET so be here or do whatever you want, but be here 08:12:35.280 --> 08:12:42.280 It's the fuck, we outweighin' all that energy, step to the ceiling, call for the people screamin' 08:12:42.280 --> 08:12:47.280 We're the yeeters of the world, but that's just how the game goes, so we'll all see it when it's stayin' on 08:12:47.280 --> 08:12:50.280 But don't let that spike, I think I'll be the one killin' it, go, go, go 08:12:50.280 --> 08:12:53.280 I don't, I don't, I don't understand a single, single one of the bullies 08:12:53.280 --> 08:12:56.280 People wanna act off of the cool King B, but they've never been runnin' in their energy 08:12:56.280 --> 08:12:58.280 Yeah, I'm gonna die, I did it with these fools, I one time, two times, easy, easy 08:12:58.280 --> 08:13:01.280 Lord knows it's easy for them, just a real tough, real greasy 08:13:01.280 --> 08:13:04.280 Cause mighty, mighty, mighty, I feel, I feel bad, go 08:13:04.280 --> 08:13:06.800 My face, my heart, my veins, no doors, ice planes on the floor, so cold 08:13:06.800 --> 08:13:09.520 Ain't gonna catch me when the big words, it's in the back seat, and I don't know 08:13:09.520 --> 08:13:12.360 Show respect, shut your mouth, sit down, no, you're wrong 08:13:15.360 --> 08:13:20.360 I'm looking at the text, we can hear each other inside 08:13:20.360 --> 08:13:23.760 I hope we'll understand 08:13:23.760 --> 08:13:26.760 You know you'll be more than I 08:13:28.760 --> 08:13:31.760 You know you'll be more than I 08:14:04.280 --> 08:14:05.280 Go! 08:14:34.280 --> 08:14:36.280 I 08:15:34.280 --> 08:15:41.280 The head that you wanted to see me 08:15:41.280 --> 08:15:45.280 Now along, it's in my lungs 08:15:45.280 --> 08:15:48.280 Birds in the trees, what a feeling 08:15:48.280 --> 08:15:52.280 When the morning comes 08:15:52.280 --> 08:15:55.280 Sending my words while I'm dreaming 08:15:55.280 --> 08:15:59.280 By the way, it made me laugh 08:15:59.280 --> 08:16:02.280 Blue, blue skies when I'm singing 08:16:02.280 --> 08:16:06.280 The one and only 08:16:06.280 --> 08:16:13.280 Can I believe that you're my love? 08:16:13.280 --> 08:16:17.280 Hold me to the moon, hey 08:16:17.280 --> 08:16:20.280 Hold me to the moon 08:16:20.280 --> 08:16:23.280 Hold me until I'm gone 08:16:23.280 --> 08:16:27.280 Don't let me go, don't let me go 08:16:27.280 --> 08:16:31.280 Hold me to the moon, hey 08:16:31.280 --> 08:16:34.880 Hold me till I'm gone 08:16:34.880 --> 08:16:37.280 Hold me not to forget 08:16:37.280 --> 08:16:39.280 But I'm gonna be gone 08:16:39.280 --> 08:16:41.280 Gonna be gone 08:16:44.280 --> 08:16:47.280 Rest in my thoughts, calling 08:16:47.280 --> 08:16:51.280 Cause I'm whole, and it's you 08:16:51.280 --> 08:16:54.280 Needless to say, I'm falling 08:16:54.280 --> 08:16:58.280 And you don't have a clue 08:16:58.280 --> 08:17:04.920 Sun, it's when I'm being mean, but the way you make me laugh 08:17:04.920 --> 08:17:11.240 Look through skies when I'm singing, the one I won't cut 08:17:41.240 --> 08:17:47.240 Hold me till I'm lonely Hold me till I'm lonely 08:17:47.240 --> 08:17:54.240 Hold me until I'm lonely, let me go Don't let me fall, let me go 08:18:00.240 --> 08:18:03.240 Don't let me go 08:18:03.240 --> 08:18:05.240 I 08:18:33.240 --> 08:18:35.240 Yeah 08:19:33.240 --> 08:19:35.240 We can't hide now 08:19:35.240 --> 08:19:38.240 Oh yeah, we can't hide now 08:20:33.240 --> 08:20:35.240 We can turn back time 08:20:37.240 --> 08:20:39.240 We're high enough 08:20:39.240 --> 08:20:42.240 Man, I'm always thinking high and low 08:21:33.240 --> 08:21:54.240 What you need is love and understanding, find a heart whose love is true. 08:21:54.240 --> 08:22:02.240 Deep down there's only one companion who's there for you when you need him to be. 08:22:02.240 --> 08:22:06.440 Your heart was broken in a thousand pieces 08:22:06.440 --> 08:22:09.740 So what faith that you've been through 08:22:10.740 --> 08:22:14.240 Is there's a man who's your salvation 08:22:14.240 --> 08:22:19.240 Just ask yourself, am I ready for you? 08:22:20.740 --> 08:22:23.240 100% 08:22:23.240 --> 08:22:27.240 I'm getting on my knees, yeah 08:22:27.240 --> 08:22:29.240 Yes and no 08:22:29.240 --> 08:22:31.240 That's why I want 08:22:31.240 --> 08:22:33.240 I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready 08:22:33.240 --> 08:22:35.240 One hundred percent 08:22:38.240 --> 08:22:42.240 Take a chance in a new direction 08:22:42.240 --> 08:22:46.240 Any face you wanna go 08:22:46.240 --> 08:22:49.240 I don't have all the right answers 08:22:49.240 --> 08:22:54.240 But one thing I know, I'm so ready for you 08:22:54.240 --> 08:22:56.240 One hundred percent 08:23:26.240 --> 08:23:29.240 Yeah 08:23:44.240 --> 08:23:46.240 100% 08:23:47.240 --> 08:23:48.240 I'm ready 08:23:48.240 --> 08:23:50.240 100% 08:23:51.240 --> 08:23:52.240 Yes I'm ready 08:23:52.240 --> 08:23:54.240 100% 08:23:54.240 --> 08:23:58.240 Now, I'm gonna go, 100% 08:23:58.240 --> 08:24:01.240 100% again 08:24:24.240 --> 08:24:31.240 How I used to be was so good for me In my mind all the time 08:24:31.240 --> 08:24:40.240 No one I could turn to Now that I can see you're never set before 08:24:40.240 --> 08:24:45.240 You came along, made me strong I've waited such a long time 08:24:45.240 --> 08:24:55.240 And I just can't believe it's true love I have around the world 08:24:55.240 --> 08:25:01.240 Don't want it to stop when you know you've got a good thing 08:25:01.240 --> 08:25:06.240 That makes me feel right 08:25:06.240 --> 08:25:14.240 Wherever it leads me, you know it's all right 08:25:14.240 --> 08:25:22.240 I never thought that this could sweep me up or down 08:25:22.240 --> 08:25:28.240 I don't want it to stop when it's feeling as good 08:25:35.240 --> 08:25:39.240 Whenever you're around, my heart begins to pound 08:25:39.240 --> 08:25:44.240 Oh, I know you'll take it slow, no way to stop this feeling 08:25:47.240 --> 08:25:51.240 For every single day, when every door open 08:25:51.240 --> 08:25:56.240 In this place, there's a space where I'll be waiting for you 08:25:59.240 --> 08:26:05.240 And I just can't believe in this new love I have now 08:26:05.240 --> 08:26:12.240 Yeah, I don't want it to stop when you know you've got a good thing 08:26:12.240 --> 08:26:17.240 That makes me feel fine 08:26:17.240 --> 08:26:25.240 Wherever it leads me, you know it's all right 08:26:25.240 --> 08:26:33.240 I never thought that this could sweet me off the ground 08:26:33.240 --> 08:26:37.240 I don't want it to stop 08:26:37.240 --> 08:26:41.240 No, I don't want it to stop 08:26:41.240 --> 08:26:44.240 I don't want it to stop 08:26:44.240 --> 08:26:47.240 When it's feeling it's good 08:26:49.240 --> 08:26:51.240 Feeling it's good 08:26:52.240 --> 08:26:55.240 Feeling it's good 08:26:56.240 --> 08:26:59.240 Feeling it's good 08:27:03.240 --> 08:27:31.640 This is like the perfect day. 08:27:31.640 --> 08:27:36.640 To catch the sun and dance away 08:27:36.640 --> 08:27:41.640 On my first ride by my side 08:27:41.640 --> 08:27:46.640 They lighten up the darkest night 08:27:46.640 --> 08:27:51.640 Another thing, our favorite song 08:27:51.640 --> 08:27:56.640 Everybody's singing along 08:27:56.640 --> 08:28:01.640 The sun and light makes me smile 08:28:01.640 --> 08:28:06.640 My friends are dropping by 08:28:06.640 --> 08:28:11.640 I'm walking with a great much pride 08:28:11.640 --> 08:28:16.640 This is a good time, a good time, I'm feeling fine 08:28:16.640 --> 08:28:22.640 I'm just a kid who's been on a ride, on a ride 08:28:22.640 --> 08:28:26.640 Oh, death and death are all you lie 08:28:26.640 --> 08:28:28.640 You're not a little like me 08:28:28.640 --> 08:28:31.640 I'm underneath the bright and sky 08:28:33.640 --> 08:28:36.640 Like you see it in your eyes 08:28:38.640 --> 08:28:41.640 The sunlight makes me smile 08:28:43.640 --> 08:28:46.640 My friends are dropping by 08:28:47.640 --> 08:28:51.640 But I don't know why I will break my stride 08:28:52.640 --> 08:28:57.640 It's a good time, I'm feeling fine 08:28:57.640 --> 08:29:02.640 The sunlight makes me spike 08:29:02.640 --> 08:29:07.640 The winds are dropping fire 08:29:07.640 --> 08:29:12.640 No one will break my strike 08:29:12.640 --> 08:29:17.640 It's a good time, I'm feeling fine 08:29:17.640 --> 08:29:21.640 I think this is the end of the things we've been like 08:29:21.640 --> 08:29:23.640 We're the end 08:29:23.640 --> 08:29:26.640 And I'm so confused, I'm feeling right 08:29:26.640 --> 08:29:29.640 I'm so confused, I'm feeling right 08:29:29.640 --> 08:29:32.640 I'm so confused, I'm feeling right 08:29:32.640 --> 08:29:36.640 It's just good times, good times, feeling right 08:29:36.640 --> 08:29:39.640 I'm so confused, I'm feeling right 08:29:47.640 --> 08:29:49.640 I 08:30:47.640 --> 08:30:53.640 I'm the warrior, I'm the warrior 08:30:57.640 --> 08:31:00.640 Strange man, good day America 08:31:00.640 --> 08:31:03.640 You got the home from me 08:31:03.640 --> 08:31:05.640 And it's physical 08:31:05.640 --> 08:31:07.640 And I try to stop myself 08:31:07.640 --> 08:31:09.640 But it's impossible 08:31:09.640 --> 08:31:12.640 Guys come along, look at your clothes 08:31:12.640 --> 08:31:14.640 And I can't look at you 08:32:14.640 --> 08:32:29.640 I've got a feeling that things have left you walking through my life 08:32:29.640 --> 08:32:38.640 Camping in the stars, I'll smoke the stage, you guys know I'm not the type 08:32:38.640 --> 08:32:45.640 I don't know what you're thinking, but I'm crazy but you're wrong. 08:32:45.640 --> 08:32:49.640 The fear has got me caught just handling it. 08:32:49.640 --> 08:32:54.640 Nothing can bring me, because I've been waiting for so long. 08:32:54.640 --> 08:32:56.640 And you're all I've got. 08:32:56.640 --> 08:32:58.640 You got through my night. 08:32:58.640 --> 08:33:01.640 There are some things that just feel...