On my fridge right by my side They're lighting up the darkest night Now they're playing our favorite song Everybody sing along Sunlight makes me smile My friends are dropping by One feel break, not stride In this excellent time, you're the time to feel the fight You know, you see kids, they're going right, going right Oh, there's not just one life, no one in their life It's a run of pace, a bright and sky, high as sky Like you're singing in your eyes The sunlight makes me smile My friends are dropping by No one will break my stride This is good time, I'm feeling fine The sunlight makes me smile I'm a prince of traffic, buddy I don't wanna make you break my shrine This is a good time, this is a good time, buddy I'm a prince of traffic, buddy I'm a prince of traffic, buddy I'm a prince of traffic, buddy Wrapping through this open ocean And none of us forget All that we made of our foundation It's going on, run away The oil is too dark to heat Now all I have is hearts to take It's going on, run away The world is ours to take The world is ours to take New horizon, open eyes on the future and everything that we could be Take my hand, so take my hand now One more step into this open ocean And we'll never forget All that we made of our foundation So I know, why don't we be honest, this is not a take Now the one that I deserve is the one that's to take So I know, why don't we be honest, this is not a take Now the one that I deserve is the one that's to take The world is ours to take The world is ours to take Watch them bring them to the front No one is for me All of this The world is ours to take What's safe in here? Oh, my love, if we just rise above I'm staring at the sun Five, four, three, two, one You shine a light Oh, it's burning me Yeah, it's burning me Believe me, I am sincere I'm not a saint, allow me to volunteer Serenity at the sound Five, four, three, two, one You shine the light It's the real thing, it's the real thing You shot a light, and it's the real thing, yeah, it's the real thing You shine bright Yeah it's the real thing Oh it's the real thing You shine bright You shine bright You shine bright You have to see the way You shine bright It's the real thing Oh, it's the real thing It's the real thing Make sure I'm right Make sure I'm right You shine a light You shine a light I Filling up this phone, got this shit on the door The code box saying I'm the best you can find Let's take a part in building a fan fatal Take your toes in the water, we're out for the summer I'm tired of this I'm tired of this in the wild We're out for the summer I'm tired of this in the wild We're out for the summer We're out for the summer We got it off this arm, got vision on the door The good box in the palm, the bad city on the ground Let's take the power to do it again Take your toes in the water, we are for the summer Take your toes in the water, we are for the summer I don't know what, and I swear it's true Baby, baby, is a crazy love thing Is a love thing Talking about Is a crazy love thing Is a love thing Baby, baby, is a crazy love thing Is a love thing Talking about Is a crazy love thing I Is a love thing Oh, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Dream League season 29 is brought to you by DHL and Chex. We need more flowers. Oh, we need my bird. We need more zoom. More zoom, more zoom. Oh, we need more dojo too. And we always need more podium panels. Please. More panels. We left my throne understated, still there the chair. Welcome to Drill League Season 29. Oh, everybody's doing well today. Jenkins, how are you doing? I'm good. I need a second. No offense. No offense. It's just I'm not very... Cardi is not good. wheels it can't have been that difficult to push. I'll move the share back. OdiePixelFox how we doing this morning? They're doing good. We had some pretty cool games yesterday. Yeah. Longer day here it's down the mainstream at least. Yes, of course. We're serious today here in the studio. It's getting better and better. We're having a crazy amount of long games. We are. Getting a lot of back and for a lot of you know some people will call them pros but we're about to make stuff yeah I have a couple of these games that we pretty astonishing that we're seeing these turnarounds and 30,000 gold swings more than that even yeah the liquid Paravision game especially at people winning games while they're still behind yes maybe that was the name my galaxy classic true yeah some excitement a lot of I mean so a lot of games and now we're gonna get to the The dirty business, right? You look like Bart Simpson. Great, that's exactly how it was intended to be worn. Very good. Also today from this point onward, this is the first day that we're going to have only one stream. We'll only have one stream. That's a good position to be in. It's exciting. I have a problem with ADHD. And I gave Medicaid for that recently so not having many different things to focus on and just focusing on one thing I think I think it's good and it makes it more intense. Yeah, only thing When you're seeing this NGS big throw happening on the screen. This is the only important thing. That's all you have to focus on only watch the dough That's it. That's all you gotta do True we when we watch two streams yesterday, but we aren't gonna focus our attention on two series in particular They were gonna relive a little bit here as they were Both of the series we're gonna talk about they went the distance and they were they were quite interesting both in their own right the first one we're gonna focus on is team liquid taking on a pair of vision and To be fair. Oh, yeah, and the tea. This was nice We had we had two very different cases coming out. I mean that's an interesting one to look at Yeah, the mid-cast it He was very farmed. He was incredibly, but you could definitely feel the lacking of that like mid-game Presence, I guess that like Nico seems to be the only one that can really pull it off on the mid lane and have that that sort of impact you would normally expect from a traditional mid laner? Yep, probably a hero that needs to be looked at more depending on the games too. Because that game, especially when he was farming, the SF is farming, the Kez is farming, they fall behind and they're like, uh oh, what was that? And they had a bad late game, it was way worse. I think he had like three kills, and I think they were kind of just kills where he was farming somewhere, and it's a 4 times up, and he's like, well I might as well kill the support, he's here. I mean, this series definitely was like a bit of a story of the Kez in a way, right? Like there was this insane comeback slash pro, whatever you want to call it. Can I make a point here that I think is very important? And I hope Blitzvota is listening. William Lee. Your players need to eat before they play. This is it's constant eating. I saw tofu eating. I saw ace eating. They're eating during the game. When the body is focusing on digesting, it's taking blood away from the brain. You got to have them eat before the match so they're not hungry get that it cal caloric intake And then you know you never know how that series could have gone. No one a pair of vision was eating But they won. Yeah, they won this game Maybe that was the right time for the digestive system to be having a You mean they want yeah, they won game two I'm saying they could have won the whole thing. Team Liquid, one game two, while losing four heroes, minute zero. Yeah, that was impressive. Was that the roughest first club we've seen at Dream League? The Dream League, right? Yeah, it's got to be up there. Usually that means the game is over. I feel like that one has probably affected Paravision quite a lot. We were thinking too. Where they're like, I got to say, shout out to the Hydration on the side of Team Liquid though, because they got that cover. They're definitely very hydrated and that's good like I don't want to just say the negatives is also the positive So will you believe let's do it a great job on the game? Hydrated is definitely but think about the digestion and the blood flow not going to the brain because you never know how that game Tree could have gone. Yeah, I mean they did but they did I will give them credit Right like a ace had the worst start ever as a night stalker and then kind of owned the first ten minutes moving around and setting Like a case but they still yeah worth like 30k behind the game. So yeah, we had the first round of upper bracket played out yesterday all four series and here's the result of it so paravision did win that series we also had Aurora win the series against Navi that was a very close one as well the other two were two 2-0s where Falcons and Tundra wasn't that exciting in terms of competitiveness and Spirit versus Betboom another 2-0 Spirit moving forward so that leaves us to these two upper bracket series that we've got to look forward to not today not today we're just so excited you know not me not me is really i mean a crazy name for himself coming in on spirit it is a crazy name as well because it is we literally i don't think anyone heard of the guy before this tournament right no like this is it's a player coming i'm sure he's playing in some tier two things but none of the viewers had heard of not me and now he's here playing Spirit and this guy's crushing it. You know what is is so cool for me It's that he was apparently a player also on the Academy team and team spirit does it again Because the yellow stuff yeah squad It's like the unofficial, you know training grounds for teams there They have some of the best talent scouting and talent building in the world Probably the best probably the best in this eSport at least we actually have some really cool Like classic storylines happening where like Falcons is looking like the best team Straight up you have nine class doing his like weird stuff for a pair of vision Spirit having the new guy and having like the clutch factor because like I would say going into the upper bracket Spirit is not favored to beat Falcons I would say Falcons is not playing higher than spirit, but this is always but they're not against each other So that's sure sure, but what I'm saying is like when spirit historically won tournaments, they were never looking like the best in the tournament. They just looked really good and then became the best. So we're almost going back like a couple of years where these sorts of storylines would play out. And it makes me really excited for like what the potential grand finals could be. Yeah, like Falcons are shown consistency while Spirit has like the clutch factor right in the late game. Exactly. Which is always super cool to see when you get, you know, we all are like, you tore all the game. You all, yeah, this is what you want to see. Yeah, and I think also we have to give some credit to Rue as well that just seamlessly changed position from 4 to 5? You know, it's good if everyone is talking about the other guy. Yeah. Yeah. So he's like he's been playing position 5 all his life. I think it hit, I think the patch also, right? Some of these heroes just fit Rue. They're absolutely perfect for him. He loves these hoodwinks. He loves maybe not the Rue because he's one of them now, but he still plays it. The ring, I want to see him playing this one a little bit more too. I think every hero right now are like top Rue. And I think that's the case for a lot of these support players with these support, these support heroes just fit very naturally, but 4 and 5 positions. And we saw the lower bracket of course a little while ago already. But I do want to point out that in the lower bracket, Bet Boom and Vici Gaming are growing up against each other. And these are pretty household names, right? These two organizations have never, ever, ever, ever, ever faced in the history of Dota 2. Regardless of which iteration. I couldn't believe that because Vici's moved like an old school organization. That time they were kind of coming in and crushing all the tournaments that they did. of during an era right where Vici wasn't always qualifying. Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting to go against each other. I think it's gonna be a tough one for Vici. You know, Bat Boom when they play well, they play really, really well. Yeah. But it'll be exciting if they're able to kind of get the upset that I would consider and get the win against Bat Boom. I think it's gonna be big news for Vici gaming. I think it's closer than people might think looking at the names just given that like Vici, let me see, in the group stage they had six wins. Like they were six and ten. Yeah. Every series that they lost, not every series, I'm exaggerating, but a lot of the series that they lost, the game went to distance. And like game five, game three was like sixty plus minutes, you know? So Vici's had it rough. There is a world where very few, like a few molecules are different. And Vici is in the upper bracket right now, not in the lower bracket. So I actually think this one's going to be kind of close. It will be our second series of the day, getting ahead of myself with the schedule. Of course, we have three series in the lower bracket today, so we already said goodbye to four teams in the group stages, but now it's really, you know, you're completely out and yeah, this is the final Dream League in the season as well. So this is the schedule today. There's only one schedule because there's only one stream. We got ourselves Thunder VP, Backman VG Gaming that we already mentioned. end of the day extreme gaming taking on team liquid but these are two organizations that have faced each other plenty of times liquid is not playing in the morning they are not they're going to be warmed up that's a good thing i would take for them yes that could be an interesting matchup though even though actually been struggling i mean they've been looking quite a lot very bipolar yeah it could still be a pretty interesting look because liquid also looks i'd be bipolar right so kind of all over the place with the I'm just wondering how production is controlling all of these frogs at the same time. Like four people at the same time. That might actually be four people at the same time. It looks like it. That is a lot of effort. You do this one, either this one. We can also check in with how it looks for EWC. As said, this is the final stop for the E.P.T. distribution. We got a lot of points that we're gonna distribute still over the next couple of days for some it still matters And for some it does not as we have got a Little bit of an update we know VG gaming is of course in as they play the qualifiers Mouses in and there was another update, but I Thought it pertained bit boom. I thought yeah, I was gonna say that we have one But it seems to not be up dated just here, but let me just check what it says aha So they're not guaranteed. It like messes with OG. Because the bracket will only allow one of Vici Gaming, Playtime, and Navi to reach top six based on how the bracket is distributed. BitBoom has secured enough points to qualify. Oh, they are all. Yes. I wonder if they know that. As we imagine they do. I don't know about that. Players don't really do these calculations. They just kind of manage his stuff. Yeah, the man I could do. And the work does. And the Beppu manager. I don't remember his name, but he would know. Yeah, and he would share. I think as well. I don't remember his name. OG is still very much sweating now. They don't know yet. And the frustrating bit for them, of course, is that they don't have their own... So that would put Beppu at 10? And it's still top 12, right? Right? Where's the top 13? Because top 12, top 12, but VG's VG's in, but they qualify. Yeah, that's a qualifier. So your, your automatically qualifies. So wouldn't that be third top 13? Well, they'll top 12. Yes, for now. Okay, for now. Okay. That's making sure I understand. But VG's not going to slot from anyone because it's a qualifier slot. Yes. So there's still two slots up for grabs. So VP could do it. OG could do it if everyone bombs out potentially. There's it there. It's a realist chance, but it all depending on what's happening over the next few days. So that's that's very cool as well Maybe not for a jeep because again, they might be nervous control. You're watching. Yeah, we can take a look at what the price pool looks Oh, never mind the well is calling. Oh my goodness. Are you gonna? You're not done yet, right? Yeah, it's me I know I haven't I haven't fished yet. I Need to fish and I feel like I'm the crazy one I'm the only one who thinks those cows are weird. Everyone's cool with it. Guys, I'm a little nervous. Put it in. I don't know the cost. There's no cow. Someone, calm me down. No, you already start. The timer starts now. The timer starts now. The timer's already started. She's been doing amazing. I know that every now. Oh. Great. It's going the wrong way. Oh. It's going the wrong way. Oh. It's going the wrong way. Oh. It's going the wrong way. Oh, no. I'm telling you, Lewis, it's just out. You're just sabotaging. Look at us, our associate producer. No one will do worse than me, it's okay. He sabotages people he doesn't like. You and I got screwed. He'll twist it up. I should have adjusted mine. You sure? No. You help me. Yeah, I don't know. I'll just sabotage myself if you do more. No, I'm missing. Oh no, fuck. You got this. Making fuck feel a little less bad, that's good. Yay! Oh, I thought I had it. I might as well sabotage myself. Sorry, team. Okay, you can redo the... I need some help! No, I won't. Thank you. I won? What? I won, go on. No, I'll just leave the board, you know? I'm gonna hold onto my spot! But how do you make it very low? Oh, that's really rough. maybe knock it over no no no don't touch oh fish okay he got this I have a chance to have a chance that might have made it even harder oh my god oh you're telling me there's a chance oh my god no I built the wrong way around Oh, now it's going to be tight, tight, fixed it. It's not fair if it's like that. Wait! Oh yeah, it fixed it. I like that you're competitive. You just don't want me to. Alright, same thing again, but you can hook it in maybe. It's hook-toes! Oh my god! You got it! You got it! No! Oh! Oh no! That's a hook-toe! Oh my god, I'm not gonna be safe. I'm not gonna be safe. Wait, does that count? It gives him the best power down. The best power down. It's in a worse position. This is why you can't really celebrate. I don't know, mine was so bad. It's not three minutes. You know if I'm really bad then my timer doesn't even appear in the leaderboard and then at least nobody knows I feel like what? I feel like that challenge Okay, don't tell us Holy shit that was rough that was really rough What are we going to do now? A splash of color conjure up a beautiful scene from the world of Delta 2 that can rival the beauty of our studio this season. There are no mistakes, only happy little triums. It sounds like a painting job. Sounds like painting. We like painting. We might need the action of Blossom and Bob to help us out because see little bones in the water? Is it water coming? Yeah! Blossom and Bob these guys are a surprise for us. It's not much of a surprise in one thing. It's literally a calisthenics bomb. No, not that. Yeah, it's massive. That was supposed to be... That was supposed to be... That's a good one. Peeps are good. They're good. Look at the TV. I forgot you were real. Oh, thank you. Thank you, Blossom and Bob. You're going? Blossom and Bob, I have a question for you. Yeah. Does that work? I don't know. Now it does. Yeah, now it does. Now it does. I guess sit down for a second. Uh-oh. All right, here we go. I think we'll have to ask you a couple questions, because you guys have been hiding something from us. It's comfy. What's up, guys? Good to see you. Good morning. Good morning. Spill the beans. Spill the beans. Well, ladies and gentlemen, and everything in between, and outside, we have released a new album. It's out! It's out today! Wow! You can listen to it on your favorite streaming service. Cool! Like Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal, if you want us to get paid. I'm gonna look it up right now. Bandcamp, and we've recorded this when we also recorded the first one. Okay. And it's out there. Yeah, there we go. It's lost this audio is Of course, of course. 20 of them. That's today. That is today. It's there. Wow. Look at the professional photos you guys have yeah don't you look young yeah those are the days oh with your original original outfit with the velvet oh yeah oh my wow am I am I still pretty who's this chiseled giga chat look oh my god you're the podge at Canada that's me that's me I just had a little less hair but also more hair anyway because I was not back then oh you cracked your screen was he cracked was it already I'm glad I don't get a message from like my mom thank you I feel like I feel I feel good aging aging is fine that was only two years ago 30 so it's like it's a big look younger now you look younger now And I have good role models around me, so... True. Good. Congratulations! Thank you. That's awesome. Thank you so much, guys. Yeah, and what would you hope that people will use the music for when they're... because a lot of people have music on potentially when they're working. Maybe when they're watching the stream. Yeah, yeah. There's a couple of things. I think singing in the shower is very important. Yeah. So it's instrumental so you can sing along to whatever you want. Very good. It's important to put on while playing Dota, of course. I have an important question. As a content creator, myself, can I use this on stream? How are they right? 100%. 100%. Can I also use it on stream? Of course. I have to ask something. Wow. I think, I'm not going to ask you if it will get flagged automatically. I don't think it should, because then we would have to like pay someone. Yeah. Are you going to take them to court? No, no, no. I give you permission right here right now. No! Somebody can use it. This is legal. That's good. That's big. That's big. For Dota 2 Streams? Very cool. I think it's 50 mins of music. That's the whole Dota game. That's just the second album. You can loop both albums. Two Dota games. Yeah. It's like in Dota, if I want to play Pudge 1 game, I don't want to play in the next game. I'll play Sniper, but then I want to play Pudge again. Exactly. So I can loop both of them, and I'll never get bored. And I have an unrelated question. Next time we might need to fish. Are you guys? Are you guys up for joining the company? Oh, we're gonna get them on the leaderboard. Yes, tomorrow. This chance up for here again. And to be honest, I'm not gonna do that again. Me either. Yeah, we can get the boxes on the leaderboard. Oh, oh no! Oh, slightly out. Oh, no. We can share it. We can share it. For the same second? So now we get 14 seconds. There's a big drop-off after this. Weird how the... Isaac, the fire... What's it called? Food-Op. What's it in? Trial by fire! Trial by fire. Food-Op. We fact-checked the night-scovetnik, as all the night-ship people all have very low time. And the night-ship people all have very long time. Oh, for the summer, it sucks. Yeah, very sucks. I'm a theory. I'm a theory. You just fixed the hook on this thing. They're using the same hook as us. So if you fix the hook and you do it, they're getting a fixed hook. That's true. We all start with unfixed hook. You got to sabotage it before we're done. Oh, we will. That's a great idea. That's a good idea. If only someone come in there and do that. Alright. Well, while you're here, Bob, we're going to take a look at another leaderboard that you guys also have in joins. But you're welcome to. But I think maybe this one is a little bit more... Yeah, you can... And the cross is still on top. Damn, he's close. He's good. How did he do it last time? Oh, he went here last time, bro. This is his first time. Yeah. It's a debut. Yeah. It'll be last time, too. He's taking the crown of everybody. But, um, yeah, you're right. Well, let's see how it goes. What do we got? What do we got? A lot of chondrum. A lot of chondrum. A lot of bat boom. And then, um, little more mix. Okay, is Nils, is he serious? He's lost Maxing. Come on. I respect that. I respect that for him. Yep. He did some respectable choices out here. Well, I hope that your loss Maxing has gone better than his loss Maxing in this thing. Yeah, you're good. Oh, there's also a chance he forgot and someone else did it for him. He's been pretty good, though. He forgot day one. He forgot day one. That's the strat if you missed day one. But we did see that a lot of people are thinking that Tundra is going to do really well against Virtus.Pro today and we're going to find out if they will. We're going to stay here personally. We're going to sit here because we are going to start painting. You actually are not going to start painting. You're going to go on the lobby to get started for the game and we are going to listen to a little intermesso of the punk champagne and then we're going to listen to Insania. That's right. Alright guys, I just wanted to take a look at Bp and Tundra today. These are two teams that, to me, play a very different style of Dota. On one side, you have heavy efficiency, and on the other side, you see a lot more dislike. We're going to try to overwhelm our opponents with tempo. So, we have a presentation on their different networks and XPMs during the games. As you can tell, Tundra is higher in all three categories between CS, XPM, and GPM. And we're going to also take a look at how this distributes between the players. So you're going to notice when you take a look at the core players here that pure, higher GPM, higher XPM, and higher creep score than Temato on average. Same thing on the mid lane. So all of you guys thinking that like, oh I shouldn't farm so my other guy can farm. Not the case, right? Take a look at Tundra, even on their off laner. They're just farming more across all three players. And the next up, let's take a look at the supports. And you'll notice even the supports fall the same trend. So this just goes to show like if you are a more efficient team and you stack more, you play more for the gold, it is possible to extract more out of the map. And it's not just about like, oh this guy stole my camp so I couldn't farm. That's just, you know, not how it really works. I also decided to poke saverlight this morning and try to get a quote out of him, see how he feels about the series. So I showed him a message on steam and asked him if he got this W and he answered me with 6-7, I will skibbity take a dump on them, lolololol, hashtag feminism. He wanted me to let you guys know that he's a big fan of feminism, so yeah, making sure to support that cause and let you guys all know about it. I appreciate the Expedition 33 in there, that's nice to you. He was Mayel. Aiden was called Mayel. Oh, who's Mayel? Mayel is a character in Expedition 33, I'm assuming Aiden, that's where he came from. Yes, of course. Of course. Do you know the best part of it? You know the Gommage thing? Yeah. Made it that before I retired I essentially got gommaged very good. You got gommaged easy They haven't played it yet. It's so good. Hey, Aiden. Hello. Hey Quinn. Hello. I don't know about gommage That's okay. You don't know about gulosh. At some point you start playing single-player games And I'm sure at some point there will be a time you should play expression expression There's just so many of those games There is one that you need to explain that's the only game You should play it before there's the movie or TV series out because they are gonna make a movie TV series out of that one But we also have a movie another TV series, but we do have a little movie for you You had some decent games like in this season Special Jimi League some ESL games had some good games against Andre It's like top one team in the world feel like the best team in this tandem I'm just not sure about speed test pro you know sometimes they can be like good sometimes they can be like Thunder is cooking this season so I'm just going off of vibes. I feel like Tundra is pretty good He's gonna pop and turn, he's gonna touch on the 33, the damage is ridiculous, but there's the ice blast and they will get themselves the lights. You're away from the dog breaker! Oh no! And he's talking back to you like I'm the main support! He's being, saving everything right! They get those little three kills and the chase down low. We save your left in this game. Less than six is a disappointment. Six to three is fine. And top three is the goal. Top 3 is the goal for Tundra which is interesting considering they came in pretty rough, not just standings, but just they came in pretty rough and we have seen them do better and they are definitely looking a little bit like their old self I think, Whitemon actually said that it feels like they're at 50 to 60% of them being informed to win the whole event so We'll see if they increase that percentage since we last talked in they had to play tie breakers to be in the upper bracket Which they then went didn't do very well. Yeah, they kind of got smacked around by Falcons And I feel like they like if he is gonna ever beat tundra I think this is one of the better times that it could possibly ask him because tundra is kind of in shambles They just got smacked and I think they don't have a great grasp on the matter like you can see in those clips 33s Plank stanking. Yeah playing this hero that girl sucks Like they don't have a good idea of like what's super good. They always first pick 33 serial. No one can counter it They always win the lane if I'm the goal, they win like they don't have that going right now So I think DPS better chances now than they probably ever had I'm glad you said it because I had the exact thought when I saw the San King because I remember one fissure playground Grand finals that they whipped out the San King game three. I think they're against Tundra Falcons Falcons playing it himself. That's what I think saying and they other playing as Falcons And then they were down and then they picked the Sand King and we asked him in an interview asked moon Like why'd you pick it? He said we were just getting obliterated So we had to like swap the meta like we just picked it because we we wanted to try something that's like totally not meta and They've done this time and time and time again at this point. It feels like that's their hero to do that with for some reason I mean, I think it has a little orange. Oh, yes, you can have all the colors. Thank you I feel like it's a sign of desperation though right even in that grand final I think that's what they're saying like we were so desperate that we knew anything that we have is not gonna work Yeah, so just bust it out and if you see the tanking now again It might be like a sign of the same thing like what they're in that position where like Nothing's working. It did work in that grand final though. It did it. It's gonna be fair. It can work I also will say they actually these guys did play each other at Wallachia So that means thunder did not a full roster and VP did with but it was a two one It was a two and that was also the event that turn our came dead last like dead dead last Even still though, the fact that they could, like, even with a stand-in, like, V-Tune is not as good as Pure, but V-Tune is not that bad. And so, to me it's like, hey, there's something there! Because I think when a lot of people, they look at these two logos and they're like, okay, well, what? But I think it's not quite to that level, I think, that it might be on another day. Or if you go back to, like, Birmingham or something. Like, I think that's what it would be like, well, what can you do? But this to me is not a what can you do series. Yeah, it's not peak thunder coming into the series, like, with everything figured out. And VP has this giant in front of them that they have to beat. But I still feel like, stylistically, it's a really tough matchup for VP. I think VP kind of preys on getting away with certain things through the laning phase or managing to overwhelm their opponents. And I feel like Tundra, generally speaking, are not the team to get overwhelmed. It'll just like, whether the Slurminer will be fine. I feel like when I do see them lose, I feel like it's like some teams coming together together and playing together as a team and then overwhelming them in that way, like these South American teams or even the SEA teams like Autumn from the draft I think, with these Naga picks or something like that, I think VP is like not really that kind of team in my mind. With that in mind though, we saw, sorry, we saw Falcons yesterday beat Tundra pretty smoothly. And when VP faced Falcons, granted it was first day of the group stage, they still lost the Falcons. They could take a game out of them so that would imply at least that the play style there matched a little better or was that day one Falcons? I mean I have a theory that Falcons will lose every single first game of any tournament ever. So if you go to like Blast and your first round opponent is Falcons and one of the best ones, you could not be happier because like whether you want to win that series or match or not, Falcons will make sure they lose, so it's like a guarantee W for you. Maybe that is slightly skewing the stats there in that case. Alright, we're in Game 1 of this best of three elimination. On the line is we're in the lower bracket of the playoffs and we have got Tundra on the radian side, Virtus Pro on the dire side. And the first pick goes the way of Tundra. We got them banning out the puck, the pango and the tiny Largo first round ban from Virtus Pro. Now together with the clockwork and they're waiting for the other two. So I saw one game where Neda played Largo and he was just roaming. He wasn't doing his Neda thing, he was straight up just roaming, running around making moves, ganking the side lanes. And I feel like banning it out like this might be a way to just secure your way of knowing for sure that Neda is going to do his own thing. And you have a reliability thing. Because I feel like this hero hasn't looked that broken to me in this tournament as in previous ones. It feels like he really needs to get an extra item to hit that stupid point as before. Yeah. I mean, I also think Saberlight is like the least Largo player ever. And so it's just a hero they will never ever pick. So like why not ban it? Because it's essentially like we'll never pick it so there's no cross contamination. And also interesting, Pundra decided to ban three heroes, like three midlaners. Pretty much. Or well, Tiny is a carry, but Pango and Puff straight off the bat. What, the base? Wait, okay, wait, is it swapped? No, because we're literally in the game of Lions. Wait, you're right. Boba didn't take Storm. He wasn't allowed to. He wasn't allowed to. Guys, deny him. Netta came in prepared. He's been like prepping for the series all night last night. This is crazy, actually. Why the heck did they first take Storm? Fuck his out. You guys are the analysts. Denied. But to be honest, I feel like the mid lane pool has to kind of like... Suspicious this event. What would you play against Storm? Fuck his out. I mean, Ember is the classic, that's what they picked. That's kind of a gimme. Yeah, but I feel like that Ember hasn't been picked that much. I haven't seen the hero, at least in the games I've been working. Yeah, I've just been picked a ton. Dark Magoo has played it some, and... Is that a good sign? Uh, it's a sign. You can just sign value to it as you want. That's literally just now! Oh my god, it's King Quinn. What? It is me just now. It's two of your heroes picked. That's an inception, my fan. Quinn's inception. Quinn's inception. That'll be my whole contribution for this travel. Thank you. Thank you, Jenkins. Well, we got the Hootwink banned out, I mean, I guess with the midlaners already out. I feel like it's not very often that we see two midlaners in the first round straight up and that surely would have an impact on what you go for in your second phase bans. I feel like I've seen a lot of silencers come out when we see these spirits this early on. I feel like especially for VP, it strikes me as a very much applied type hero. Some Grimstroke might be interesting as well for Ember, I think. It's also a fair amount. I mean, I think both of those are very good. Ember wants to follow up from the support, and if you have kill threat against Storm and he can't go in, then this hero doesn't do any damage, because all of his damage is being right next to you, and pressing Remnant is quite clicking you. So if he can't go in, then all he does is split push. So, making that difficult for him to commit, it's why Titan is so good against Storms, because he just anchors you when you go in and you can't kill the tie. This type of hero is super, super good. So, I agree with the Grim. And just something that fits that archetype. Having strong rune fight is a very, very big deal. And you probably want to lean away from heroes like Stormsphere, Earth, Phoenix and stuff. Just like, you don't actually provide a kill threat on either of these two heroes. I think otherwise you would see Fly probably looking for that kind of hero, but it's not very effective versus either, please. Yeah, but you could even do something just like pick what we got in the face. Yeah. Because you've already got chains to start, so you've got follow up. You've got band. Oh, you're right, Prusa. Yeah. Yeah, I'm kind of pretty on point. I think those I think were probably the two bus picks. I agree. Grimstroke, while it may sound like it's better than Hoodwing, because it's like you have silence against Storm, and you have a swell and ember. There's something about it that the way the magic damage works, it's a bit redundant. Like Emmer's running in the shield and now he's running in more, like there... It's easier in some ways to kite it because it's more obvious the way it's happening. I feel like it's a lot more conditional, right? Like, Stremstroke needs certain things to go right for the damage to get applied, whereas Stremstroke literally just presses QWR and the damage just happens. And usually in Dota, like, the more conditions you put on something to happen, the less frequently those situations will present themselves. Grimstroke, I mean it's part of the reason why Grimstroke has not been a popular hero for that much of the hero's existence is because he doesn't function unless he has a hero helping him. Yeah. Whereas, like, who do we get? She's just walking alone in the woods, she's kind of a chat on her own, whereas Grimstroke is like the weakest hero ever if you meet him alone. Yeah. Interesting. I actually didn't really like the lich pick, but I have seen it be quite effective against the... Techie is in the laning phase, especially because you can stop the jump in, and Tundra decided to pick Techie's Insolence. In some ways, it doesn't really matter because you get the courage down the line, and you have other tools, you have a lot of magic damage, so you're quite effective against it for that reason. So if they manage to dodge the lane, it should be 8-0k. I also think Techies is pretty good against Ember, and a lot of Contacts, because Ember's main damage now, because you have to max shield, like maxing the other spells, doesn't do anything. So Techies can literally just burn, like, purge your shield, and then you just don't do anything on rune fights, which is a pretty big deal. But Techies will just mirror the direction you're going to, he'll follow you, and he will just run at you with his taser, and now you can't do any damage on him. I also have been like a fan of teams that don't pick five like like true five position heroes I feel like these like more for us heroes have seemed a lot more Effective to me this one and so far it seems to just add a lot more damage and it allows gives you more opportunities once you get to like the mid game actually make things happen Whereas like the general five pool has felt like either very low damage or the utility doesn't actually Matter that much for the situations that the heroes aren't Yeah, some of the most traditional fives are just not very good right now, you think of what's up like witch doctor, CM, it sounds like it's actually decent, G-hero's been nerfed, what are you doing like the V5 girls? I think CM, Jackie, it sounds like it's the only one I would say that I think has been really really good, Lich, maybe, Lich? Yeah, although Lich has been doing well, like Falcons have picked the hero up a lot. Do you guys think Lich is the best five? I feel like it's slowly becoming number one. I mean, out of the traditional heroes, I think witch styles seem to be the ones to go for. I've seen some wyverns, but that one seems to be a lot more like depending on the player. And the hero, again, is like very conditional, and it's not always effective. What else is there? I mean, Techies 5 is very good. Yeah. In my mind, it's more of a 4 archetype hero, though. Yeah, it's witchy. Hammer Saw is very, very solid here. Axe is another hero that has to blink to do any damage, so now if you blink and you get instacilled until you have BKB, but that's quite a long ways away. Even if Axe is playing very carefully and being very mindful, it's close to the timings a lot, so that it just forces VP to play a bit slower. And I think Saberland in particular is not a player that likes to play slower, or is very good at playing slower, like he can't hold his own horses. So, I think when you have something like this and now Saber can die very easily, I think Against him as a player that is very good. I think you make those considerations a draft as well. Yeah. I mean, more things for Timber. I think it's... So we have like two semi-cana save spells from VP. You have the box from Ringman stores that prevents magic damage And you have the Frost Shield from Lich that prevents physical damage And Thunder just ends up taking like the one hero that just doesn't care about either of those two spells, right? You have pure damage coming out from Timber, effectively making both the supports, like their saving spells just do nothing versus them. And I feel like, ultimately drafting is a lot about like, how easy is it for you to kill the enemy Nero's, and how do you like, best apply your damage. And looking at it from Tundra's perspective right now, I feel like it's quite easy. And it's a lot easier for Tundra to get kills when they manage to get captures, whereas for VP I feel like it's a lot easier to find captures, but it's harder to like, finish yours off. Yeah, I definitely agree. I think maybe the one, the one potential issue is it's quite a good Ember game, and you will buy Mage Slayer, so it makes things a little more palatable, because Mage Slayer does still apply on the pure damage from Timbersoft, so you can reduce sort of everything, because all these heroes don't really like Mage Slayer that much, so if Ember is running in and he's tanky whatever, he's pressing slight, people are getting Mage Slayer, it can be a game where he's like a big disruptor and he's running around and you just can't deal with him that much. You're still a carry pick coming out, but in general there's not that many carries that are good against Ember. It's like Slark and... That's like, ah, Faces voice okay, but Slark is like the best one against Ember. Besides that, Ember tends to be pretty good against carries, because he's like a magic damage boy and he's mobile. Carriers tend to lock, lack catch, um, and a way to actually kill him. I feel like usually against Ember, it's nice to have these safe laners that can't get kicked out. I don't know how to make sense and stuff. It's banned in this case, but... Life still there is a classic one for sure. Yeah. Also, is there any world in which she's maxed like a number? No, it's full though. Yeah, okay. Okay, I think against Palki you could put three points. Okay. I think the fourth point is kind of verboten. But I think... That was clean German. It was clean German. It means illegal. I just want to make people that are not speaking German also aware of what you just said. It was so good. It's clean. I'm just thinking, because I feel like if I'm Rubik Techies, Rubik Techies, I hate getting slided. Don't laugh at that, just erupt the whole float, come on, come on, it is German. I mean, it was, it was, it was good German. It was so classic for like you two communicating with each other. I feel like you have to pay your respect. You do, you do. I respect that. I respect that, I respect that. That's an alchemist. Excellent observation, Cheever. That is indeed an alchemist. I was not expecting an alchemist. Were you expecting an alchemist? Not particularly, but I think I think it fits the type of hero that if he has a good game and he gets to his level 6, he can just sit on that lane and never get picked out. Because Ember just doesn't have the damage to kill out through the region. You also have the spell for the chains early on. And battle hunger. And battle hunger. Yeah, it is very hard to kill them. And if you look at VP's heroes, they have a lot of stuff that hates getting dispelled. They got battle hunger, they got ringmaster darts, they got Ember spells. They got like there's a lot of stuff there that if you just purge it or if you're too tanky and you survive through it Then these heroes they run out of damage, right? There's a lot of beef and there's a lot of like you've got Rubik save and you've got techies pager like there's a lot of little odds and ends More to help some with that. All right, obviously when this hero gets online She cuts through big time But carry damage doesn't apply that much early game because she's they're not often in every fight They can be installed them and it depends on the character. There's a lot of skill expression there and how many fights the carry is able to actually join because there's sort of an art more than assigns to how carries join fights. So it's still a good pick but it doesn't fix every problem. I absolutely agree. I feel like VP they set themselves up to have a lot of catch and Thunder presented a lot of catch with a lot of tank and I think that's generally a good way to go about things because heroes that have catch usually like damage and I genuinely really like Thunder's heroes. I feel like it's going to be hard for VP to kill them until more art comes online and usually if you can't effectively do moves within the first 20 minutes you're gonna end up losing. Okay, yeah. Jenkins finals. Oh, hi. I didn't see the draft. I didn't look at it at the last second. I really liked the quote that Quinn you just said, so I wrote that down while you guys were talking about the last bit. More an art than a science about how carries join fights we're gonna see how that of course plays out in the game but going into this first game any straight favorite for the first 10 to 15 minutes because I feel like I think thunder is gonna steamroll this game oh I think it's not even close I don't think Mark is gonna come online but if she does come online we got an interesting game around it I do think the I do think the one thing is like I think it's a very good ember game And there is some skill expression in this lane where I keep saying that word now, but we're ever kind of in the window lane, so we'll see. We will see right now. Actually, we're first going to see some PogChampandas, and then we're going to see the game. And we got ladies and gentlemen getting into the action airing game, water railing. We're gonna go between Tundra and VP. Valkt, what do you make of this when we open the power we have for Maiden right here? He really likes what Tundra's got going on here, because they might be able to play it fast and get ahead early. Uh, do you think that's gonna be the case? Because if he doesn't, he may be on the other side of VP. Yeah, look, he's done. Uh, they approach the VP stand up a bit. Little concerned, however, they aren't playing a lot of comfort, right? So if there's any game that they want to be able to play quick and aggressive in, it's this one with Saberlight on him. most comfortable hero that we saw him literally as introduction into the proscenon, right? His axe if you remember when we casted him at your house. Long, long time ago and he kind of like ran the qualifiers as an ace, of course. But this was one of his best heroes so, yeah, I want to see them be very aggressive. I am concerned because I do see some limited damage early in terms of pressuring an elk and a timbersaw in particular, but let's see if they can do it with Abed. And my other concern is, I don't know, this techies pick. Taser looks godly this game. We'll talk about that as a second this white one is getting chased out. Ooh, good dog! But uh, they won't keep chasing. Yep, and they'll secure themselves triple bounty, so a good start and I want to see them play very aggressive here. So, the techies, the taser, versus frost shield, versus amber shield, even versus the ringmaster save, which was also a little shock that they picked it into it, but it's a bit of a, you know, it goes both ways, because now they have multiple different ways to stop blast off. They have sinister gaze, they have dead shot from Huerta, and they have the rubic whip that you can stop in mid-air. So, Looking to protect I guess on the side lanes is what I would expect Well, let's say I'm not mid matchup obviously with the picks coming out very early in the draw fight The storm was showing in response off against the ember spirit This you boy you're picking the ember to come out on top of this storm in the lane Just to trade with him. I personally still like the storm in the matchup But some of the players you can still endure with versus it because you have this flame guard level Like when you have level 2 flame guard you can start doing quite well on the land you back up and you're gonna get that farm A bit of a skill matchup, but I like watching these storms. I don't know just feels like you're playing this range hero You can always poke and harass you're not gonna get pressured by the ember Did you like that overall approach from Tundra going up against VP saying hey, we know you like to first pick storm Yeah, you can't do it if we first pick the storm You can tell that they probably thought up of this for some time last night, right? just be like what's the actual best option let's deny our bed and give BGM his comfort because BGM loves to play storm spirit as we've seen with multiple different builds some games he struggled but some games he's also popped off after struggling and the things that overall considering the storm was shown early you know how what does the overall landscape look like for it being a good or bad storm game and there's catch right there is a I think they also got them where to so they have this extra bit of silence and control that can assist My worry is just how early is tomorrow gonna have to be involved because usually you don't want your more to to get involved That early and you want to be able to make kill combos happen with your like, you know You're mid and you're three and you're four So we'll see if they can look for those to be killed combos on these very tanky heroes I think that's what pure went for the alchemist. They have timber saw these are tough heroes for an ember spirits Just go to and get killed sir because he wants to go mage player. You're not gonna go this festival I imagine at least. Almost the Aghanim priority looking like this game for Tundra. Like who's getting the first one from me? Oh yeah, Thorin. Right, go straight for PZM. Usually not the one that you see picked up. No. Or at least, so maybe it won't be. Like, yeah, is there something to pick? That would be more impactful with the first axe? Like, do you give it to the Rupi? No, I'm gonna give it to him. Maybe you do? I don't know. I think he will stay. Yeah. Cause like the other two are kind of... Is Timber gonna feel like he's gonna need it? I don't know. Ah, what to say. This is kind of interesting. Maybe he stalls when he buys them and prioritizes his BKB early and then gets one after. Maybe he goes Ratings BKB. We'll see what Pyrrha's idea is. He's farming very well down here. Stabilite doing a good job though, he said. Delain, he can cut the wave pretty effectively versus that Alchemist. Heroes are low. Yeah, Flung wants to head over here to see if they can try and punish under the tower. This is what they want to do with this trap. Get early kills, they'll pop the glyph. Pyrrha, I mean he should be pretty dark. Okay, he's getting back up coming in. So he's actually going to be alright. We'll get the concoction off. Big damage! Malang is going to bring him down low and the blood grenade, the dart comes in, he's going to fall very low. Hellscream will get the first blood by killing off White, but Saber-like does fall in return, so they get the one for one. And most importantly, of course, they do keep Pure alive. He actually is able to survive. And he's got to salve as well to be able to reset to a good TP forward from R. He gets Curiosity Stack. Mid, they're duking it out. 15-6, Abek with a couple extra last hits, BZM with a few extra denies at the moment. He got the blast off off, which is all important. The sinister gaze, and the whip was already used so he knew he could get the jump off. They actually did a very good job of disengaging from the deathmine though. That mad bomb that drops, of course, when Techie's dies almost kills the Lich. And what does this one's top lane pull? They brought three again. You're trying to get him here. You're not the concoction and the telekinesis into the block stuff. They should be able to finish him, they do. So, getting him out of the lane. That's a big deal. Housegream, he goes mid, assists with the rune, a noise BGM quite heavily, but the Saber right now, two deaths right off the back. And how does the top lane look? Is this a lane in which they can leave Tomato on his own? on his own like a tomato is he happy to solo farm against 33 if fly does need to make these moves around the map for now yes but the second that timber hits six he has to just kind of leave the lane this is why i was like i like them where to pick in a way because it works as the game progresses but definitely some concerns early because there's so much that goes through it right techies is going to be able to go through it always timbers always going to go through the same thing for rubik when he pops ult the box is not going to protect you either like we were mentioning neither is that frost shield versus just pure damage So I looked at Housegroom's prioritization is just gonna be to play around the mid I think they accepted the fact that Saber-Lates is gonna be kind of on his own in terms of The bottom lane not gonna be able to pressure the Alchemist so much so they're looking to make moves perhaps elsewhere for Housegroom They are he's just staying down here now. He knows 33 can be left alone. They're just gonna make sure the pure can farm I'm also the time can the movement starts coming from the ember my bed six right now probably gonna play it easy he's gonna start making some pretty early moves as soon as he hits the six I think they'll play around him or in a particular because this Louis Stormster who's not quite level six they could actually get him very soon your op ed about to have that level six up online round the power rune as well, three heroes lingering mid. A lot of emphasis to make sure that Abed does well. Yeah. They're going to be able to ensure that VP have control of the rune. And they will. Just going to be an invista, nothing too explosive. PZM, still not six, but does have backup of the Rubik that can't quite dive forward for him there. But helping out Abed, now he's having a very good time in that mid lane, and save the lane. He is getting chased down. He might be in trouble again. It's going to be fine, yeah, Hellscream able to come across and make sure that they cannot chase but not having an easy time down. No, does he have stacks to go back to? Not quite yet. Does have a south. We'll be able to back back his double bracers and get that jungle going at the least here. So far to model. Looking pretty good. He's going to actually hit the six first before the timber perhaps. With this, they could even pose some threat onto 33 with an extra rotation, fly. Albert's going to try and kind of find the angle with the SimViz rune. This is a nice move. I want to see them making these early aggressive moves on the side of VP. Don't let Tundra just sit back and farm like they like to. They should miss the dead shot. Yeah, the two of them just start to get aggressive, so I think, you know, 33 cents or something's up. Albert, the position won't be able to get it though. BZM zips forward. They're no-stop ones here. They don't have detection on anything. And the Taser does not dispel invisibility because the visibility is not dispelable. Alright, who's getting the blame on that one for not having detection on them? Both supports? Let's be honest here. Which one came from base? Yeah, exactly. Did they ever see that he had an Invis rune in the box? They were scanning on top of it, and they didn't. I don't think they saw it. I think they might have not known. Either way, it happens. Top, there's the kill that you still have talked about. Can they finish him? They can. Nice move. They bring the third hero. All important to be able to finish off that kill with the Muerta. I usually say blame the chorus, but you definitely blame the chorus. Yeah, that's why you lie out of this report. They don't get a pause. Sorry guys, you're not getting an exception this time. Whitemon will be able to stack, go back to still high level, level 5, continue to look to play around Avid and the power runes. Both supports rotating over. Look at another rune. As we said though, hard for him to make rotations on the side lanes as this ember spirits. So let's see what he wants to do with it. I imagine he's still going to be looking to play around mid, because ganking pure, very difficult especially if he ever has chemical rage at the ready. I like how Stabilix is doing this though. He's like taking these small risks to kind of just pull waves, making sure that he's still getting stuff out of this bottom lane. I got enough control! No, can you save but I get down to the remnants? I don't know if you have between those two. Every time the other Flameguard is going to get dispelled if he does get connected under any stun, I bet. Take a bit of a beating there, we'll have to back away. And 33 will be able to go back to those stacks. Level 7 for him, Tamato, continued to have a very good starting entrance at this game, but very similar for Pure, has the Talisman of Evasion already finished up here. But a good job at least at emphasizing on mid, slowing down BZM's farm, ensuring that Abed can get these power runes at the moment. And Abed is showing, so I was wondering, is he going to go mage flier? Because it is a very good mage flier game versus the Timber and the Techies and storm or is he gonna do the vessel to try to kill this timber and alchemist although they have some type of dispels he's going the vessel all right yeah because that is the good point right it's your big concept but they're leaning more on these kind of abilities that all items that there are answers for and they can fall off is my issue yeah right the mage there is more consistent i would say but if he wants to play super kill hungry with the vessel he better get those kills so let's see if they can on that and they're trying to go for ares taking them a bit of time though Because backup comes in there, we'll be able to finish up the kill with the dunk. He's on bed. So they can get more. I'm just in fly here 33, stable at the call for now. I don't know. Into the silence, they've got the control with the deadshot as well, a lovely lockdown. From VP coming out there, that completely controls BZM. I like this little move from Tomato, right? We were saying maybe he has to get involved early to perhaps get an extra control or some damage. That extra control, absolutely there for the storm. BZM gets caught in the calling. Heavy rotations from both sides, but VP. We are slightly ahead with these. And another power room for Abed, so get some stuff that illusion which can be pretty good to disengage or dodge some of these abilities. Now I've been getting them all so far. And even though Saber-Lite was left alone for quite some time, right, but isn't that worth? He's top 3 right now. Pretty solid for the axe. I don't think it's very safe to do so versus this techies because he's not gonna get the techies again. It's clear, it's super fast. That would have been a tricky one. Yeah. pretty big. Timber is going to be able to clear that one. Maybe they just go and contest or just poke him and steal some of the experience. I'm not sure they can actually steal it fully, but they can at least split that XP and annoy 33 a decent amount. They're going to make the move, so they are bringing heavy rotations. Tundra also going to react. Because VP clearing it is just not really a thing with their heroes right now. Sure, it's like they, I mean, they need all three cores. If they had all three cores, then they could try to start to take it down slowly, but... Stunches just saved friend chosen. They kill it, right? They kill it very fast with the Timber and with the Techies, and they're bringing four to ensure that they can clear it out. It does mean that Tamato feels very happy, though, that he's left alone up top, having a very solid farm on this pluritor right now. Yeah, in fact, he's staying level with Purez. Yeah, pretty impressive. Purez on the Alchemist. Another stack. Does he get it? Looks like he should this time. Good this time. Oh, there we go. It's a juicy one. Stop it. We're gonna find Ari and the River. Another power root. Every single one of them. Continue to get that ball rolling. Timber will clear the stacks on contestant this time. I think this is why I've been staying this hero. I mean, it dries a lot more. Because everything is being played so much more in terms of this patch in this tournament. It's because it just can't recover so well. Even if the lane goes kind of bad or something, bam, does some ancients, top 3, top 4 net worth almost immediately afterwards. It does them incredibly efficiently as we see there with the smoke. VP, looking to continue setting tempo, level 7 lich, level 6 ringmaster. So they can find Pure. They have great kill thread on anyone they catch. Oh, they're gonna be able to find BGM again. The control comes into play perfectly. Very, very good lock down here for the stormers we're seeing. And keeping the chain frost as well just in case of a potential next move. They did not need it whatsoever there Easy M is struggling Has happened before to him on the storm Not this bad though. Yeah, this is this is wrong But we've seen a few stone struggle Can definitely be one of those heroes that Stop pulling behind early the recovery is not easy No, especially if it's this much emphasis on you right bringing three four heroes Ah, Ben! Why am I just being annoying? That's just the ominous spell, your shield thrown and your flame guard. Yeah, they do force him back as well. Soon to have the Vessel finished up. See if I like that. That's the blade mail. I mean, once he has that blink on top of the blade mail, this game's gonna get very, very scary for... Not just bzm but also pure. Yeah as long as they pick a fine pure right, that's always the difficulty of finding this alchemist when he's got this radiance. He's trying to just get back and farm the gizmo. They've got the tracer boost out, but bouncers will not go anywhere close to returning to bzm so bzm's gonna get out of that. Saberlight. So you want it from 2 air as they jump forward the blast off the zone. And mech toms is Saberlight though, the chains hold back. White one at least on the techies and 33 can't quite get a grapple on Saberlight. Samurai 2 tanky and they missed the big damage spell. The blast off does not connect. VP, continue to play this pretty clean. Not hemorrhaging any kills when they go for an aggressive play 2. Up to a 2k lead at Tomato. Actually staying near 7. In pace with the Alchemist, this is crazy a hat even. Yeah, to keep up with Pure. It's not like Pure's not having the space to farm. This isn't out getting the free farm. And Tomato is keeping on pace with him. And I like this, buys the Mask of Madness as well too, because he's being left alone, so he's looking to just maximize that farm as much as possible. And this is one of the best item builds you can possibly go on the Moer to two for maximum DPS. That's why I'm very nice to you, so far. It's a murder. Instant smoke too, Abed, I believe that's his best hold on, right? And he's got every single power rune, another one for him, the Arcane. Looking to continue this pressure on the map, are we? Likely to go down here. Doesn't get the lift. Same time. They're going for the bigger kill. Yep, they're going to see if they can take out 33 here. Timberchain away for the Red and the Stump! He'll dive on forward! He's ticking down low with the best so it's not enough damage to kill him though. 33 survives. Ah, but can he get out? BGM does use a lot of mana here. Hasn't got a lot more to play with. So he has to be a little careful BGM on how much he wants to chase. Chains there holding back white won't allow us to able to actually walk up and get the call-off onto him. That hunger is well down onto the techies. All right, Tomato needs to have a swing round from the side and now ready to jump back in. Arpe close the gap once a white one. Now, James Hoster was PZM to hit the ties there as well. They'll take out the three at them. Oh, VP's playing this early game. Beautiful. Tundra are getting kind of smashed. I mean, PZM in particular, this has got to be one of his roughest games. 16 minutes in. He's barely got any farm. He's probably Tom Pure. I need this back, I guess. I'm not going to actually play, but damn, what a start. I love how involved Tomato's being. He's showing up to these spies who are saying they might need that extra damage and control. He is turning up for every single one of these. He's 4-0-1. Love the way that they're playing right now. It's never like the Blink and the Blademail is done continuing to enable and play around this timing of Abed. And now because he has Vessel, he is just going to still go mage flare, right? It's such a good game for it. Tundra needs to find a way to slow things down. I really do. I really do. And with the Alchemist, he is going to at least have that agonim. It's coming through. What's he doing? And as you said, I think, you know, BGMs are saying, you know, how we brought out here, you know, I got to look a little better on the network, you know, if you could give me some, give me that Agonyms, please. The thing is, this Agonyms is not one of these, like, you're a voicer when you get double silenced. It's just an AoE vortex for, like, two fight kind of things. And AoE level one water. Exactly. And our enemy is dead again. It is indeed. It will give him stats, though, which does feel like he needs room. That is, yeah. But my goodness, right now, the VP dominating. The number one for Tomato. Why not? Another one. Dari dead again. Just getting out of control. It really is. And he's got to feel pretty good for Teampea, right? When you turn up today and Tundra's like, We're going to first pick Storm. What are you going to do now? And then they do this. Definitely going to be feeling pretty good about this one, VP. Beautiful temposetting, getting aggressive now too. Putting deep aggressive wards too. We see both wards, they've placed Hellscream, the bottom river side and then one of the more obvious triangle area they have great coverage this one is I mean that was definitely nothing de-worded it's a nice one so let's see what tundra is gonna be able to do with the timing of the first agonims it's probably just gonna be an agonims and sit back and farm right and wait for them to overextend but VP they have great heroes to go for objectives too now at this point since they have this good lead they can look for Roche they can look for that tormentor very relatively early as well it spawns and another power. He's got every single one. He has gotten a full control of the river and the power in this game. I mean House Cream right recognized that he could leave Saberlight a bit there. He's gonna be sacrificed but they're gonna be able to shut down BZM's to burden. Yeah the game plan is working. Another catch. BZM's gonna try and fight back and help out but Saberlight's the spell is getting damaged at all. You see him? I mean, they're still trying to push for this kill and stabilize. It's not happening. Stabilize perfectly fine. The other guy will scream in return, but if it turns up, the next hit to the chain frost is there. Pure will fall. Beautiful. And BZM, he's got to run. 33's trying to hold them back, but he may just die as one himself. He will. The chains are there. They only get a ringmaster and they lose four heroes. This is absolutely out of control. Perfect chain frost. I mean, that was, I want to see that again. That just looks so nice. Chains on chains. I mean, at least you don't be easy under that. Well, at least? I didn't die that time. Nice! Guys, I got a Galvanize! Did it? He did! There we go. He got his first one. Yeah, let's see it again. That was quite pretty to start things off. I mean, you could almost tell that at this point, when they're looking at a Saber like, they must have been feeling like, we cannot kill these Axes. No, you're not touching these Axes right now. Super tanky, and then here we go, look at this. Chains. Oh yeah. Chains into the chain! Very satisfying. Head straight to Roche. Tundra. Do they know this was happening, and can they even contest him? They're like, well, but they're gonna be able to finish this one off here. Tundra's building that pressure. They have had some tough games here at Dream League. This is only looking like another one of them. And pure, he did it by X, by the way. He did go to DKB, like I was saying. Oh, he probably, he probably was, he had it queued up and then he looked at his storm and he was like eeeeh, I'll buy a BKB for myself instead. I mean, I think he, I think they need these double BKBs and then they can go, because as we've mentioned, these agg names just aren't the, you know, usually when we see these aggs picked up like a Largo where it's like, all right, boom, or a Void Spirit or something like that, right? It's a little bit of a different kind of approach that we do see. The BP, not slowing down, looking for every single move they can. of the Big wrap around CT, with the read. There's a mine there. That mine just saved BGM's life. They've definitely saved it. He'll get caught. Oh, I mean, BGM is having a guilty stand. Probably one of the roughest games I've ever seen. Okay, well they get the lock down on the table, that box comes out though. It stills through below here on the axe. Tamada, he's kind of cleaning up. Turns out with the damage from the piercer veil, They've got a run! Sure. Yeah, it has to be KB. See at the side, Arbett. Looking to chase down 33, Sibley. Probably a blink back up in a second. He does. And there it is, back in with the call. Gets the lock down, damage comes in, 4 dead again. Woo! 3 to 20. But just hand clean. Not a great one from Tundra. Not a great one. And Arbett being like, okay. Like you said, you're going to take my story? I absolutely don't think he's over the moon right now. He is, as if they first picked the storm against, that's VP's strike. He tried to steal that strike for them, they'll make you pay. Zero, five, zero galvanized. My goodness, and VP with the sweep, continues to make aggressive play after aggressive play, looking for the tier two in the mid lane now as well. Then you have to just get him or two bleeding. At all. That's not fun. For BZM, but... It's not BZM. Game two. He'll be back stronger than that. Game two. He'll be back before. Game one. Sometimes doesn't go BZM's way, but you're a game two. He's going to be popping off. And you still always have to close the game, right? First, we've seen some pretty immense throws in this tournament. Throwes, but some pretty big turnaround as well too in this tournament. This one would be a pretty crazy one since it is the Alchemist playing significantly from behind It likes to play ahead of course and it isn't to a super high DPS carry as well That VP truly woke up ready to play this morning Honestly every single one I'm not even like it's not even like one person. I think everybody is on the same page on VP today Suppressive to say. Yeah, I mean a house cream on this ringmaster right now You talk about that there could be some difficulties for them in terms of counter plays Why must it's not really been able to to do that? There's not really been some of those scenarios where the taser tripped him up and now you plan perfectly aggressive You know a huge part of them catching the storm early on right in this ringmaster combo It's great because we just haven't been seeing much ring at all. I love it. It's just been in four games Here at dream league and not many at all and it does make sense I like if you're gonna play on the defensive positioning, that's where techies on you But if you're playing on the aggressive positioning, that's where you can actually play incredibly well versus something like that techies. Playing ahead, it definitely does feel quite good when you are playing the ringmaster, I will say. Anyhow, Hellscream. Showcasing it quite beautifully. That agg- nearly there. Okay. Now is- is he gonna look a BZM and say, now you're ready. Now you can have an aggonyms. Or is he still going someone else? He might- Who do you put your aggonyms on to try and turn this game around if you appear? We shall see. maybe 33 do you maybe give it to them easy he's more farm you know we'll put more eggs in the basket of the 33 timber all right they just bought they just bought your very overwhelming that's not the best that's the sad thing right some of that but we'll see who pure believes it gives it to the techies he believes 33 he's given it to 33 he's like that you're struggling too much museum because it's still not max level vortex anyway yeah The money's put on 33 here It will let the axe it will let 33 at least get information right pierced all the way into the back lines constantly perhaps that die immediately Let's see what he can do with it. Ah, Ben, but I'm gonna continue checking another power room for him Literally, I steal every single power room. Yeah, they've been nowhere close then they can't get there. Aghanim's, he's able to buy his own on the side of VP. That's Aghanim's ready to go. I'm playing damage rune, as you say. They have to avoid this moment, please. If it ever gets found here, it's gonna die. It just supports Nitemare to play against now at this point. Mateslayer, Vestal, and Aghanim's. He will incinerate you. Auri does show for a split second, there has to be incredibly careful. He might get caught here. Oh my god, so... We'll survive. Tundra. Welcome to play economy game. BGM does have a defensive item now. Lotus is finished. They've got the BKB on Tomatoes, so... They don't have... I mean, they've claimed all the tier 2s, so they'll probably want to just look for some kills here. Going toward the high ground, just without a kill, a little difficult. They get here. It's got BKB ready to press, press it immediately, doesn't mess around. Okay, now maybe they can just go for that push at least a forced back right push them to force them back to the base here with them where it's a Just like that they can force a BKB Yeah, looks like they are waiting for that kill if someone shows then potentially going for that siege not gonna use the catapults for now Bottom they're pinging it's still another creep wave tomorrow is saying hey, let's use this wave Let's at least hit the building a little I think so. I think they can But they are looking for the catch you see them just lingering and waiting The tomato didn't start the stage. Mm-hmm, but nobody wants to pretty jump on this monitor right now Oh, but he kills the building incredibly fast. Yeah point It's all dead shot pretty solid steel They force them back can probably look to reset now on the side of VP Continue to take all the boxes, fly buying a very early gem too, love to see that when you are this ahead. Continue to press that advantage. And Rosh will find out in 40 seconds. Tundra just trying to play the economy game right, trying to catch up until they do have these conditions to attempt for a fight. Where's that damage going to come from? It's difficult to see where the damage is going to be for this Muerta now at this point. do get the secondary agonims to storm having this pull who's gonna provide all this versus this gigantic tomato with a BKB now at this point how do you survive for him just hitting you back yeah how do you survive him and with the BKB it protects versus the worries that perhaps were there in the beginning of the game with some of this magic damage which is never showed in the game so far here soon to have the second arguments and this one I think it will go to second one he's white one he says I will not let you have every single power ruined it but I'll pay with my life takes away that in this radiance cocktail am I thinking like does he give it this one's gonna be It's dead shot though. Like I mean it's a user Ari's I mean it should be easy like but It's because I'm a rubik player BGM BGM or Ari it's BGM again. If you don't give it to your car He's back in the top three look at that if you don't give it a BGM that But I'm sure already was a dude. It is a very good spell the next one Most likely to go to him But let's see when pure wants to buy it because pure does look like he wants to have that blink staggered to go to follow up If they can land the wombo combo right that's how they can that's how they can do it But they have to be clean with it and will very much Show sort of the power of having an elk on your team right if that if this can sort of turn like BZM from position Where you can't really do much into suddenly having a game That's the power of the alchemist. He has to get like a three hero pull it feels like at the least for the fight Okay, it's model Looking for a bet not the easiest grab Resetting Roshi's gonna start shifting toward top pretty soon. VP is looking for a kind of like smooth play down, very expecting this to split up, but if he wasn't the case with Tundra, EZM will get another power root, so he will get at least his first power root actually, with the game, the shield. TP's coming over. Not bad. Ah, bad. I think I'm gonna go for the jump. See if they can focus the amber, they'll get their croncoction, they have to stop control, they got it! That's a massive kill. Zahbet, take it out! Tamar is still considering if he wants to get involved in this fight. Looks like he does not want to, they'll leave Hellscream behind. Tundra! Get a couple of kills. They TP'd very strange on the side of VP, right? They TP'd kinda one by one. Tundra took advantage immediately. BZM? He's gonna be able to move over towards Fly! As Fly! And he's gone as well! Oh my god, oh my god! Not only they're striking back, but they took the gem. Abed had it as well when he TP'd in and died. Honestly, the most important hero, they catch first. They catch the Ember. Oh god. VP after playing a pretty flawless early game. Now the Temmrich. The most massive situation possible around the road. You can see the turn around there. Oh god. This roadshad and Aegis, that turn around is only going to be more severe. There's a whole formation just broken. Tomato probably being like, guys, I can't walk in. I can't walk in in this situation. Oh, that's bad. That's brutal. Tundra now going to probably change smoke off of that. When having this gem picked up easy, I'm now starting to get some sequences. Wait, maybe he can't make another mistake. have to play around tomato who's still incredibly far but they cannot slip up like that again with our better tomato it's gonna go for the jumping I'm trying to hold its ground over the BKB in the old shoes down wipe on very quickly like I have to stop back in a way put the BKB here on the axe that shot holds back BZM they did use BKB on with Tamato also quite early, gotta have to disengage. These next few moments truly for VP are very, very tense and I'll bet, you know, we're highlighting the agonim is pronounced if you look back, it's if you wanted to play with this type of advantage with BKB would have been the safest temper out, gets caught once, dies. Now he's like, I really need BKB because if they just do that again, I will just die 100 to zero. Has to have backup of at least one of these defensive supports somehow. But as we said, the Taser of course will be a problem. Tomatoes still comfortable, but they cannot do that type of play again. They have to have Tomato in position and cannot go by this one by one TP sequence. What would they want to try and do now into the ages? Do they have to be super careful and like not go for aggressive moves so are you still trying to keep that lead and not let Tundra get the space to farm up? It's a bit dangerous because you know the BKB is still on cooldown so it's tough to always make these moves. It might just be them kind of sitting back and farming, which feels kind of bad into this Aegis now that there's another Agonimus purchase. This one's going to harm you. Yeah. and here we go keep it over tomorrow we'll find the easy kill still have this silver edge that can make solo plays himself and already does have it now too so triple agonies online and easy and you can see the confidence he's playing with now even though he's 05 and 3 with this Aegis can't start to run it off I don't know, he's hiding. Call up on the Vortex, see if they can get the Aegis out of him, tie us down upon him into the dead shot, that's going to be the Aegis out. Might be able to get him again. Say look, he's going to look for the timing, and he finds it easily. In fact, he gets the two of them. He gets both pure, ambiti- ambiti- and will be able to zip away. Ahri tries for the TPL, he'll get away. But 33 now left behind, he's super tanky though on the timber. DKB, no TP. He's just got to try and run, but indeed looks like he's not really got... ...but serves to sort of go through, and indeed the call's there for Stablelight. Anyway, they get 33. Great fight, their footing. Continue to play around their two strengths, Stablelight and Tamato. One Tamato, might just find one again. Look him go. Dead shots there, everything hits. He has been disarmed, but not for long. Like, Tamato, he's telling his team, guys, I've got this. He's like guys how are we even getting close to losing this game? Look how far I am this is an easy win I he's playing incredibly well on this where to for sure him and Saber like continuing to leave the charge Wait did pure jump into I think jumped into it. He jumped to the top Okay, we'll be able to catch with the replay right now He's in and then got caught he blinks close to the ages because it looked like they were trying to cause distraction as a Temp, but he just blinked right on top of the car The stabilizer is obviously setting up for this Aegis, and then Pure jumps in, and the same thing for the Aegis. So a bit of a misread there, right? Because you've got to expect that there's going to be some sort of attempt to jump the respawn of the Aegis at that time. They were trying to disrupt backline when the respawn is coming in, but he doesn't even BKB, so he ends up stunning himself as well too at the concoction. So much they can get them now with the push. E.P. starting to get back on to the country side of the map. And our bed's saying, okay, now I don't have to go BKB again after we get these sequences. I feel safe to go Kaia's dodge again. So, feeling confident. Satanic on Tamato, still in a comfortable spot for him now. That fight was a pretty ideal timing for them too. way that he's just flowing down the momentum from tundra regaining their footing on the game because this is the thing like sure both 33 and Beesie and now have their net worth in a bit of a better position because the yag But when you look at the carry to carry Tomatoes, he's effectively he is double the net worth of pure on the alchemist And they don't have like a blade mail kind of thing right there have a blade mail versus the more to any type of way Look the opposing side does versus the carry so the fact that he is this large still It keeps him in a happy spot. Those that don't want to make too many mistakes, though. The more and more mistakes you make, these heroes are going to start to accumulate back and back closer toward you to be able to itemize and deal with you on the way. Difficult sometimes, though, because Marenda deals so much damage. Saber-Leg. I'm waiting for the angles. And Tamada's farming, actually probably one of the highest that we've ever seen on a Muayar Toss. 30,000 at 37. Pretty absurd. Are they going to try to go for him? They are. Oh, they're trying to catch PZM number 10. He's just teasing around with Tamada. Save the life. Very quick reactions, almost gets the call on to him. He does get a strong steal, adds a dead shot to the upcoming fight. There's a ward right on top of VP. Tundra? Did they look for a catch? Gonna try. Is he in? He's gonna try and go in, but he is clipped by the sides straight away. They look to eliminate Hellstream. They'll get him. BZM has to back off though. Taking huge damage down from the tomato. He's gonna go for the TP out of the BKB. He'll get out of the fight. 33 though. Can he survive this? Tomorrow, there has no BKB and no ulti and no satanic. Yeah, they're back off. He used literally everything there. I'm gonna try and chase. There are BKBs there, but why get a grab on him? He got scared. Honestly, on tomorrow, and I don't blame him. Popped everything pretty much at the same time, be with the fight back. Hellscream does get caught in the back line, almost getting a two-man, three-man vortex there from BZM. as big as tomato is he does have to be careful a lot of that pressure is on him in this game we'll manage to get the arcane rune for the next fight our bed Not that of the ready, looking for the refresher next. Truly foregoing the BKB. I mean, how much risk do you sort of consider that to be right now? Is it something that there is a high chance he could progress? Doesn't get BKB. The thing is with BKB you can do a lot because then you just use the Flame Guard as effectively as possible. Right now it's like the Flame Guard is very likely to just get burnt or dispelled or something along those lines. That's the only reason why. But, hey, he's trying to be greedy. Let's use the Piss off. They did by a secondary jammer from the mistaken as well on the side of VP to re-control the map and Tomato does have his nose he is fending out. We're shining a couple of minutes. Very tense moments here. 29-tape, only a 1k lead. Very much. The farm speed of that Alchemist allowing them to stay close to miss one time you're a pure. The triple agonims are truly starting to kick in with how fast he does. That AC came out of nowhere. He has blink and an AC now for the next upcoming fight. Playing around their ward. Okay, BZM gets a multi-hero pull. He has hit level 20 as well now too, so it's a much longer duration for it. And he also did get some pretty fortunate neutral items, we do have to look at some of these. He did get Mystical with the gun, Powder Gauntlets unleashed. It's very strong neutral. Tomato, of course, does have Conjurer's Catalyst also, which is one of the most insane ones as well to want to work there. I don't want to work there, so the damage is explosive. Saberlight. Get some information. I'm PCM. Oh! The dead shot. He's gonna pull up on the pin! I'm not a follow-up. Get a little afraid, his team's not close enough. God, that's a scary moment still. Anytime there's a two-man pull, VP has to be very ready. Tundra, they're gonna smoke up. Look for the wraparound. Yeah, they know where VP is. I'm seeing Abed not spend gold yet so maybe debating if he does want to go this full refresher greater goal for that DKB. High ground is claimed at the moment from the side of VP. No they are. Gan's been hit by Tundra. Deadshot will clip housegream so they have an idea of the angle where Tundra might be coming from here. They can't just walk into the pit and start doing rows, can they? Mm-hmm. Radiance top tower is under attack. Save the light. Radiance top tower has fallen. Poppins dealing with the lane. Down bottom. Pressure also onto top racks. Double catapult is hitting melee racks at the moment in Tundra's base. Gonna have to start reacting to that, because the racks actually will die if they don't move somebody back. Yeah, they're gonna start backing off. Sure, he'll take that, means VP can likely set up and go for this roche, Abed does commit with the gold for the refresher here. And he's going to be a nuisance if he's able to just get all the remnants off. If he gets caught and dies though, that's going to be really sad, so. He's going to be amplified down the stream from the next fight as well, Abed. And the answer of this is for him, he's going to try out the side, but CPCM jump board is caught by the fair, he has to get away from this player, so he's going He's gonna jump back in, look for the steal, but it's not picked up, and he's gone! He's getting done! That's BZM a pure out of the game! He tried to go for the Aegis steal, but Tamano gets the kill on Rosh, and he still gets to pick up the Aegis. And now without the two big cores, Tundra fall apart once again. Stay real light. Get your core! A big core, 533 on this game, they're gonna be able to clean up all of the... Back to business. My goodness. Stay real light. Did not have an easy lane, but the game since then, 11, 2, and 13. And BZM, even though now he's recovered in gold, but he's still 0 and 6 though, and he jumps in and gets nothing. Literally nothing, no cheese, nada. And they're gonna get a whole lot of MVP, they'll be able to clean up the mid-racks! Stabilizing Tamato. Playing pretty much perfect this game. A little slip-ups from Ovid. But not from them, by any means. Even buying a Death Stone now, he's ready to close this up. He wants out. No buyback on 33, no buyback available on pure. Might just head. Deadshot, we'll be able to stop things out. Saberleih actually has to jump on a white one. Oh, they do need to get Saberleih back in the fountain. Tomorrow's ending the game. There's the buyback, BZF. final holds, see if we can stop them from putting an end to this game one. Stand like this, peek it in, look in and focus the objective and get the win here. Game one, going to VP, Tundra, they're able to hold on with this classic outcome mist and giving her acronyms and giving heros a game that weren't having a game, but it wasn't enough to turn this one around. VP, looking pretty good here in this game one, Foggs. Yeah, two slip ups, one pretty big one I will say, especially TPing in that one by one sequence, but across the board, Saber-Lite and Tamato, playing Super-Wine Knight. I mean, Tamato in particular, I like the way he rotated very early on, added that extra control and damage. But yes, Saber-Lite, after being sacrificed, we did kind of set the stage for him. This is, in my opinion, this is his best hero. And he actually delivered it very nicely in this game. Coming in clutch when they needed him to, when things were starting to look a little bit of a hiccup, he gets the call, shuts down that Aegis, doesn't allow that comeback from Tundra. Not, not. Even in a game where there were so many kills ahead, it really does go to show right why a lot of people, they don't enjoy playing against this Alchemist anymore. Because even in a game where it feels like they should be so behind, they kind of weren't in the gold. Well, you know what I mean, Aiden's funny on the numbers. Aiden did a small segment right before the game, when he was talking about the way that the gold works for these teams too, and how much Tundra farms. They still do farm a lot, but this time the execution, maybe not the best, but also from VP, they kind of just play really good. They've got VP coming in very very clutched as you can see across the board all playing fantastically here in this game one And it's interesting what the approach is gonna be in game two whatever it is I don't think they're gonna be taking away that first pick storm with a first pick storm themselves and imagine BGM He does not want to play a first pick stone maybe a little later down the draft to the concept things up a bit nice Supreme, but this was not a fun game for him whatsoever game one goes to VP I think there's a decent chance he said it I feel like you know in the middle of the game Probably at some point when he gets like a really nice call he just gets up out of his chair. He was so good Yeah, I don't even think it's bad like there are definitely moments where like I think Like that like some pour it on type yeah like every once in a while I drop it like get out of my game. Yeah, and I feel like it gives confidence for the next game Like I don't think it's bad. No, I like that stuff. I mean make it was like the king of it Like this guy is unreal, but why is he even allowed to play the same game as me, you know, like he would drop some stuff like that. Someone has victim from the long game. Yes, yes. These guys are not on my level. It actually gets you so hyped up. It's how they send stuff like that. I think the flip side though is like, especially for a team like VP, like you are clearly the underdog in the stairs, like you win a game on. I think you have to be careful getting too cocky and feeling too good about yourself. Yeah, because I think that definitely swings the other way where if you feel too good you will play worse than I think yeah But I do I imagine I imagine after this game. They're literally thinking of themselves. These guys are unreal balls Yeah, they definitely felt like tundra played bad this game because they did yeah And you can feel that when people are like scared or like off Yes, like it's not just the gameplay in the fact that you won like you can feel it in the way They way the way their heroes move that you feel like they're like I think it's especially evident when teams take fights that they normally don't take. I think a team like Tundra, when they are bad, they end up in horrendous fights, because they're not used to fighting in their early game, and they just don't do their whole efficiency thing, and they can't just play them the way they want to. Yeah, I think that is the clearest feeling. Sometimes teams are just fighting you, and they're just walking into the meat grinder over and over and over, and you get so many items, and it becomes a joke at some point. It feels like that was the case when we played you guys a lot. Cause that's how I kind of felt at some point. I think it was, like in the TI final, that's how it was for y'all. And I think in the series that we won, like all the major finals, I think it was also like that. It's just like minute 10, there's a fight you know you can't take, but you're taking it anyway, cause if you go on, you go on fast. Yeah, I don't know, you just got some fury and you're pointing at some guy and we just take the fight and we all die. We have some alchemist and you're trying to gank our alchemist and we keep you all die and it's like, and it just kind of faded from there. from there you know I mean they did kind of almost throw this game like I think I think DPS this problem where they don't understand how to build net worth at some point in the game like I think they honestly played very well early game I think they make good moves and like they've looked like a terrible team in terms of early game play but I think when it hits 25 minutes the team is so bad at getting goals yeah yeah like that's that's why I think tundra in theory should win this series because somehow they got giga smashed in late I mean it just goes to show even if you have a good theory right if you can't apply it and you can't execute it Yeah, you just You still get there It also shows the how like how even doubt the place of this like did you go back eight years ago or whatever? Yeah, like it's just a joke these teams can't play Never would you've never with but I think the thing that's even up the most I feel is laning like people have gotten across the board way better one way and it's just a random stack in qualifiers. They'll be so much better at laning than tier two teams were like the amount of time ago. But if you mess it in lanes, like you can actually just lose. Yeah, I think five years ago most games just ended up like, if you played like some EG or like of the old, I remember you'd like, the game was overwhelming. You couldn't even play the game. It was just completely awful stuff. But nowadays most of the time, like you'll call behind and you can still, if you have like good ideas about how to play the game, We can usually figure out how to play with that. Yeah. And I think even the year that we played each other in every final, it kind of felt like all the other teams had no keyboards besides us. Like it was like you walk in the game and they're like plugging the peripherals in. That's how every game felt like there's no way you could use it. It was a joke. And the funny thing is, I feel like that year what made us so much better, I think the ending was a big part of it, but I think as soon as the ending ended, we did the next five minutes and how you made the map go from like, playable to completely shut down. Yeah. Cause that was the thing right without map, it was like you could shut it out entirely. You took over the enemy jungle and you have like vision in your own, and the game was just done. They can't play anymore. They can't play. Yeah. You just controlled both jungles. Yeah. And it was just over. I like that was the part where most teams like, struggled. But I do, you guys are incredible at laning player. I think that was your biggest friend. I mean, people just got, they just got still checked at lane. So if you did pass the laning skill check, you literally lost instantly. Yes, yeah, I mean that's what we couldn't beat bad for me because they were they were on they could much They could break like we couldn't beat their lady hill chat. So yeah, it was just like how can we win? My There was one thing I was wondering about Yeah, I mean you travel a lot. That's a lot of events Like there's a lot of different rules But have you ever won weeks? Will you ever wear weeks? when will you have weeks tomorrow I don't know I think that interview is like one of the funniest interviews I've ever watched And we're gonna go to the short break They thought I'd never make it But here I am on top of the world They thought I'd never make it But here I am on top of the world On top of the world On top of the world I'm so crazy I'm so crazy I'm so crazy I'm so crazy There's no doubt we'll back up now And know why we fell Holding for shame, holding on for something The blue sky is coming, we're still here I love this land, and I feel love It's something we gonna need to understand Oh, I feel the love, yeah, I feel the love Let's just go, no, we won't need a plan Cause I feel the love There's a cool breeze, the air clean, I don't know well Falling for shame, holding on for something, The news fighting's coming, we're still here Oh, I feel love And I feel love It's something we don't need to understand Oh, I feel love Yeah, I feel love Let's just go know we don't need to cry Cause I feel love I feel the love, cause I feel the love I feel the love, yeah I feel the love It's something we don't need to understand Oh, I feel the love, yeah, I feel the love Let's just go know we don't need a plan Cause I feel the love Welcome back to Dream League Season 2, what's the name of the game? We really, really like the painting and we've worked like 50,000 times about being here on time. Jenkins. I got an important job to do here, it's very good. So does Virtus. Pro and Tundra. Tundra a little bit more important than where it's broke, considering Tundra is one game down in this best of three, even though, Fortes here started, and Sania, you made it back here. This is not going to be an even ordeal. I didn't think so. I hope my style-wise, Tundra has a big advantage. But I think it's really cool when teams can overcome these things. Look at Tundra, they have this strategic mastermind of Neda, and then VP just pulls up, and they get storm first picked, and they're like, we know what this draft looks like. We've seen this before. Here's how you beat it, because we've gone and beat him doing the same thing before. So, I think it's really cool when the underdog wins like this. And I think that's the, I mean it speaks volumes to how well we played last game, and now it's about replicating it once more. I think that's usually where tier 1 teams tend to be a bit more consistent, and tier 2 teams struggle a bit more. And you consider first-prone tier 2 team? Absolutely, yes. Jenkins? I do too. Oh. I was going to say, I don't trust them. Like, shout out to my boys, I'm a big fan of Bulban. than the crew, but they've done this before. It's a very good team to do it against. Like it feels really good to beat Tundra, but they've had games that they just do not do this. They've had tears when they don't do this in the next game. Even when they're winning, even when they're against a team that's like a worse caliber, you can see them play really well with a bad draft. And then you're like, holy shit, this team's good. You can see them play really bad with the good draft. You're like, wow, they're gonna drafting. If only they could play well. They just have to sync it all up. It doesn't always happen. I hope it does. It was really worth Flasking the two games in one best of three is the big one though Like you see it and if you see a Falcons win a game like that You're like, okay, seriously over like they dominated like they're just they're gonna do the same thing next game But with the tier two tier 1.5 teams You don't quite have that same level of faith of like can they actually Replicate it same thing if you're watching Reconyx or one of these yeah, like can it or nigma can they win the next game? You know they won once. I'm gonna go to me VP's if anything me comparing them to VP is honoring them Whoa, VB to me is like between the two tiers because I feel like they can They pretty consistently can win one game against really good teams This is another team like VG if you look at their group stage They had a lot of like series that went to distance. So Like 1.75 1.75. That's that's how I feel how much do we feel because this this game one and we're gonna of course go ahead into the draft very soon. And game one was very much like hey, this is a first pick storm which we already questioned at that point. Obviously they also didn't play out the way it did but how much of this is replicable for Virtus.Pro if maybe one of the leading causes of the game going the way it did was that first pick storm. First pick lich now that's where it's at right there. I mean I think that's solid like they did well in their save film which I think is this scariest lane for this team like I think flying tomorrow or their most volatile laners and so if you did wall in lane last game and you had list and like to me it's like hey run it back so in terms of replicating it I quite like this because I think having a strong safe lane is the most important thing for this team because I see lanes where flying tomorrow get blasted and you can't play the game anymore like they get blasted to like a not okay degree. Falcons is straight up first picking lich as well too yeah if you like if you look at Falcons to me they look like the most consistently good team in this tournament. Okay. Let me tell you what it says. He's saying Gothenburg and places in Gothenburg. What? It's like places in Gothenburg. He's just saying Gothenburg and then like random places in Gothenburg. This is Swedish, man? No, we just don't like, people from Gothenburg are like El Bozos. We don't like that much. Why? What? That's mean. That's just the truth of that. all of Sweden. A little birdie. They have one thing. It's called the little birdie. Is that mentioned in one of the things that he says? He's talking about it. It's like the inner city where you go out to have drinks and stuff, places that he mentioned. But he seems to be happy about it. He seems to be happy about it. Trapped in a well. He does also seem to be trapped somewhere in the box. I'm still more confused every time the production plays this... plays this... heard it before the track that's played it's constantly happening I mean it's probably very funny a lot of things happening this dreamly like the cows that it's all very concerning and no one cares this is the state of the world nobody gives a shit right crazy happening right in front of her eyes we're all desensitized off with the cow this is a mid-summer thing the cows I don't know what the cows are you know what the cow reminds me of of the the cream cheese. La Vashkiri, that's like the French thing and it actually means the cow, the laughing. Oh, I know that one, yeah, La Vashkiri, the laughing cow, cream cheese. It's an American and Netherlandian brand. Yes, yes, no, it's French. Literally, it's French, the laughing cow, La Vashkiri. Oh, wow. Let's focus on the drafts. We do have 10 players and two coaches Given their all to not get eliminated here, so we should honor that. I think Fly is very much like a traditional five, right? And he likes to play the traditional fives. And I think there's all like, tying back to what we said earlier about like, there's not that many of them right now that are good. I feel like for this team it's probably a very nice pick. And I feel last time, Tundra picked Techies into it, even though I think that's like a little saucy sometimes. Not a matchup for sure. Now they just ended up picking the hoodwink. They're like not risking it getting banned out. I think they even banned themselves offline, but they're securing themselves a more comfortable position. And I feel like for Auri especially, it's nice to have him on something that he's played a lot. He is very much like the small hero pool, but he's extremely good at playing them, and he knows how to play them at any stage. He's played seven matches of hoodwink. This event, with the 71% win rate, considering Tundra is not doing that well. But they have played some of the most matches considering they've played in the tiebreakers as well. Yeah, that's true. But no, I do think it's good. Like, Hoodwink is never gonna be bad. Like, when you pick any core role against this hero, you see Hoodwink, and nothing's really that good against Hoodwink. Like, the mobility is okay, but it's all just sort of okay. She's also hard to kill and she offers kill threat. Hoodwink is good against everything, and nothing's really good against Hoodwink. So if the hero is solid in the meta, then she will always be a solid pick. I actually feel like what is a series of luck The laughing cow I think it genuinely it can initiate it can follow up. It's like it's set up. It's a scale. Yeah. It's a good laner That's kind of like it's like I don't know. It's a shot of all trades. Yeah It's only bad for when the numbers are so abysmally bad that the hero can't be picked Yeah, that's the only time put it was around which is very rare Like I feel like this year has been meta pretty much since it got added to the game I mean as far as I know the only time that this year wasn't very good is from Chen those very popular And you could give a bunch of armor to yourself and hoodwink relied on the Bump bump bump. What does it call? Yeah, in order to play her lanes up But it's like the only hero I remember that's like actually good against the break for the other game Axe gets respect banned in the second phase here by Tundra, and they pick up the Martha for themselves. That'll do. Yeah, I mean, it's good against Lich, obviously. He pierced the Frost Shield. I think Pyrrha is also probably the best Martha. He popularizes hero to a large degree, and is very, very skilled on it. And I wonder if VT will be able to counter properly. The Axe ban, while it's a respect ban, is also very good. Probably the best hero against Martha, because you're just the insta-killer if you believe no caller. Centaur is definitely decent, but you can buy Blade Malon, you know, sort of the same thing of like your return guy, Morita wants to shoot you a bunch in lane, so it's pretty nice. I remember for a while people were picking Invoker mid against Morita, and it kind of ruins the hero. Yeah, it's been good. It feels really bad to play into. Yeah. And I wonder, I mean, it's been a while since I've seen Hobbit play this. I was gonna say, it's funny because when you go back to like when he first started popping off, If he was like an invoker guy, one of the, maybe the best invoker in the world at the time. Yeah. Um, and now he doesn't play it at all. And that's weird to me because he's also the extort guy. It's not like he's a cross-waxed, like, fake invoker like me. Yeah. He plays real invokers. The miracle type. Yes, a bad... I feel like Centaur, like, while bugged against Marta, I feel like it's not that, like, exciting of a hero for me to see stay brawn. Because I think, like, when I think of Centaur being good against Marta, I think of these, like, meta Centaurs that are Omega-fast. Omegafa and they're just in your face. Yeah with blade mail and like heart and they're just like a big problem in your not A support style, right exactly when I think a saver center I think like blinks done go in kill this guy like, you know more of a temple guy And I feel like the way saver plays it. I'm not sure how effective it'll be against some Mordo and I'm gonna keep doubting which I feel like powers a bro Because I was doubting I came on yeah, that does for you want to give him something to yeah, oh damn There is not Invoker, good call. But for the other team. But for the other team, BGM has played a lot of Invoker. I mean, you can purge the reactive taser, you can kind of like stall out the centrality, you can purge the lich chain frost, or not the chain frost, the shield, which is very nice. Both of these supports want to put a buff on somebody and they run in and you can stop that really easily. That feels good. I also feel like BGM and Voker is just like, they will always look for it when things are not going well. Yeah, just pick it. And he just people always perform it. I was looking at their games early on They were playing in poker quite a bit and then they like stepped away from it a bit So the last couple games and I guess now like backs against the wall. They're back to it again I genuinely think that you'd be kind of messed up by banning Winner. You're instead of the Volcker I think that's the kind of thing you should think about when you're up the game and it's there's like this against the team that Like has things they fall back on crutches You can call me like I think you're you're definitely supposed to ban a poker there and I think Bane and Volcker Also with but a wink like you've got two stops that have set up for Sunstrike So sidelines now become a real risk like how well do they do because when the Sunstrike kills start popping up then? Then things start bleeding and evokers chilling mid and you can run into some real problems Which was a good response. Do you like this here right now? I absolutely hate this hero was hurt Yeah, whenever I see it. I just feel like the team lost if I'm being honest What about for a bed We're buff for him. I mean this guy's one of the best. He is He is, but I still think the hero is, like it's not just a player, it's also a team hero because I think if your side lanes do bad, like there's some mid heroes that are more vulnerable when your side lanes do bad. Stuff like Void Spirit Dragon and stuff that's like snowball, like you need snowball and you need your stuff to come fight with you, like you can't do it on your own. So if your side lanes do bad, then their stuff are stronger and your stuff can't help you and you are at one sad camp or you're on the train. Lich Techies is pretty good for that though, like these are pretty insane laners and good damage. I think Bane is good against Techies though, in lane. In my brain. I feel like it should be... The support matchups are actually my favourite one though. Did you fight him on the side or what? I think so. With the trees and the way things are, I think Techies can't really abuse... You're not outranging a Bane, that's not really a thing. Like, you are but it doesn't matter. He's just gonna run through the tree and he will just run at you. Because he's high movement speed, and he has high armor. It's the same thing with like... It's not as extreme as with Fottle, but it's kinda like the same laning concept in some ways. Yeah. I'm just not a big fan of Wood Spirit. I think for me it's mainly that. I think if your response to Beezium and Volker is Wood Spirit, then I already feel like you're kind of like playing from behind in many ways. Even though the matchup isn't for your ego. Some people were going for like Mantas Godi from the mid lane. Yeah, it's possible. Yeah, there's some I feel like if people are trying things like that, rather than like the standard stuff, it probably says something about the hero. I actually feel the opposite way. If Topsun's doing it and it works, it's probably good. I mean, I tried it a bunch because Topsun did it. I don't think it's that bad, genuinely. So what's the idea behind this project? I mean, it's basically Mace of the Light, Matha. He doesn't buy shard. Mace of the Light gives you the farming thing because you just hit all the creeps, so you just keep doing that. So that we don't have to buy shards, so you're just like stronger because instead of having a shard and a kai, you've got a mage player and a diadem or whatever. Like, that's a way stronger hero, right? So it's like a way to keep the snowball going as opposed to like, wait for it, having like, he's strong for like 8 minutes and then he's just massive downtime, and then he's at least an OKE play game. So we've got Luna coming out for a Virtus.Pro as their last pick, and it's up to Tundra to decide what 33 wants to play against that, and it is a lichen! Are we liking this interluna? I see what you're saying. Never done before. I mean we've seen luna as a like lane answer to liking before. So upsides to liking interluna is that you have a bunch of minions that soak up that eclipse. It's hard for her to do damage. One side is obviously that, well I guess that's enough to actually get to that you have nighttime windshields, so your hull is at everyone. And I guess the hull would also be pretty effective against the glaives as well. He's just a really natural mantle buyer, is the thing. Yeah. You know that guy is good. Like, the hull is not that good against Luna, because you're by now, so. Good against everybody else. Techies is two-sided, I think, because you can keep disarming the stuff, but you won't die to units. I think Techies is quite good against like- And yeah, and the glitch, the armor, you can like save the guy that's getting gone on by like it right that one I think is a bit too cited like you can soak chain for us this while so it goes the other way I also feel like he kind of just eats you even if you ice over your stuff you're still gonna die you have like 700 HP but the ice almost good everything other people yeah that how ours yeah yeah I'm not sure how I feel about this one to be honest like I think it's a very tundra lineup they have like three super greedy cores none of them are fight starters it's like all on the supports to make plays which I think is a very tundra style it's a very backs against the Tundra thing where we're just gonna farm and ourselves are gonna run around so I think like it's very reasonable from thunder It is another team. I would hate their draft But because it's them like I think it can work because it's the kind of style that plays gonna scout with wolves He's gonna line Sunstrike people. It's some pure obnoxiousness That's that's that's exactly what I'm thinking is that the way 33 plays like in is Unlike in anybody else the key will throw the wolves through the portal and like a legit gang with the wolves It's really cool to watch it. I'm always excited to watch him play like well We're going to be very excited to watch this like it in action as well Ken Tundra forced out the tie in the series and keep their tournament dreams alive We're finally out with Odie Pipswell and Fogg, but first, the Pucked-Up Panthers Here we go, this is the time to get into game 2 and the first one already goes away at 33 as they kill on Tamar. So look at that star there for time to leave 33 in particular, star of the league. Strong hero, especially in this position. What do we make of this all then? So, time drop, first time round. They set things up for BGM to be in a bit more comfortable position in terms of when the hero is picked and what's planned They get him on his Invoker, the classic Lamp TP Looks more their style this time, 100% just the last time And they obviously take away the Muerta, the tomato that we saw tomato pop off within the last game Yep, looks like they will be able to claim three bounties though, nice play there from tomato with the beam We'll probably take a bit of a beating, actually we'll end up surviving So I have a little fun mechanic thing, I'm not sure if they knew this one but but Lich Frost Shield for some reason doesn't work on wolves just to put that out there. So playing Lich as a Lich expert, it actually makes no sense, but the wolves eat you alive. So when he gets the triple wolf with the high tail and you Frost Shield yourself, it just goes right through it. I don't know why it just bypassed the damage mitigation, so I'm sure 33 knows that as well. Don't see that. First birding. Okay, I went down the old nightmare into the dead shell. And let's see what Tundra can do with this draft. See, it's a pretty similar kind of style draft that was seen as they had as the last time. Very aggressive, so I want to see them play extremely aggressive. Well, for Tundra, hiding this one just right up their alley, right? They're going to be playing much more confident, much more comfortable with Pyrr on this, with Bane, the way to set up Sunstrike for BZM. And overall, we have to talk about BZM, right? Because probably having one of his worst games that we've seen in quite some time in this last one on the storm, now he's playing his literal best hero. Let's see if he can have a better time. What would you sort of make of that approach then? With the Lunar lineup against the Muerta. Do you think this is one of the better ways to play against the Muerta carry? We saw, what was it? Was it XG? Ami did it with the Refresher kind of build. It ended up not working out, but you could see the timing. I think they were at like an 18,000 gold lead or something. They did not play out that game. They had moments and absolutely saw the power of the Refresher. The agonims that can come out from the Lunar to just blast on top of the Muerta. top of the muerto so I can see the idea of it and I can I see the idea overall with the centaur as soon as I saw the centaur actually was telling you my tactic of Luna's coming because it's just a VP strategy that they've run quite a lot centaur buys auras Luna groups up they kind of just go with that and they pose the issue of the five man brings Hellscream down low can they finish him off they cannot so Hellscream will live Saberlight will try to drag the wave white mod will interrupt as best as possible with the neutral creeps, save a little bit of drag a few but doesn't lose his range creep. Mid lane, this is designed for Abed to win this matchup, pass to win the matchup as well, two doesn't want to play versus BZM when he's losing the lane, has a Void Spirit versus Team Volker, which is so far so good for him, very good in fact, seven denies. Oh, BZM even giving the Void Spirit. Yeah, nice little bonus there, Abed. How does this get better for these enemies? If you start to get a few levels, or do you need to have some sort of rotation coming in? It's a top matchup, for sure. You start to be able to control stuff with Forged Spirits because you control runes, but overall, Abed should be leading in this lane for the majority of the time. The shield that you get, you can always just play super nice versus these Forged Spirits and aggressive. Always have attempts to kill them. If you kill like two Forged Spirits in the lane, it's like a big one. The head overall for VP. I think similar name of the game as last time is play strong in lanes and Steamroll with that because that's how their five-man lineup can be designed to do very well as they do find white lines isolated on the side That's right. Not gonna quite connect that Pure also that effort to bring yourself down pretty low He did he has a salve I believe he's gonna drop probably to get healed back up on a lane that he's not set up to just Absolutely free farming. There's some pressure. He's not careful Yeah, not one where it's easy to get the kills. Maybe the techies have his out of position, but killing the stand-ties is never gonna be a fun time for the Muerta against the return. Yeah, I'm sure. If the Ducey setup happens, whether it's a stun that comes onto his bane or onto himself, has to be ready with the dead shot to push the techies potentially, so... Sometimes when he's using it aggressively like this, to farm, they can give options for Housegroom to look for a play. Whitemon trying to get the sleep for the Sunstrike, can't get the angle. Some sort of side lane Sunstrike kills would go pretty far for BZM. Let's do a build, Abed ends up going for this game too. Curious to see who does do that. Mateslayer, Mantabild, the quick blast top, about to sleep. Not gonna be enough even if it did hit. And out! Yeah! They're playing this lane very nice on the side of EP. Ari's going to rotate to try to fix things. Should be able to get Hell's Dream. Almost getting Saber-Latest Wall 2. One or two hits plus the Brainstap, he'll have to go back to base. So Ari looking to salvage the lane at least in the top, since 33 is just completely free farming bottom. He does this a lot, right? Probably one of the players that moves the most in the first six minutes that I've seen And all that's getting slightly better for BZM getting some extra denies here perhaps on my sport spirit to stop that 12th and I have a very good time That's too bad to do too much about tomorrow when flies them around In time Ari starts to get aggressive the shields that Yeah, that is a nice one, right? The frost shield versus the acorn is going to be very good, although even though it doesn't work first with the wolves, it's at least going to block some of the damage from him and Lichen. I wonder if they changed it, honestly. I actually haven't played the matchup in like 10 days, so I don't know if it actually changed the way that the frost shield works for the wolves, but yeah. I did want to point that out, because it is a big deal when you're playing Glitch. Power rune. White line. That's what they'll set up. Should have them with the stun. Or just with the cold snap. Yeah, no where for flying to run. Double rotations from the supports. Probably can kind of low. He is 6 now. Can't quite set up for him. He'll get a refill. Immediate jump. I'm in the blast. I'll follow up. I'm in the Blast off, follow up! It's gonna be close! They got him! They got him! Yeah, they've got the damage to take him out between the two of them. They did not expect Housegream to just linger in the area, I guess. Just stayed a bit too low on BCM. Get first. Starting to fall behind again. Through the raindrops. Let's make sure that they burn it right through him. He's having a tough start to this day. It's never like trying to get the angle. Don't be able to. When we are seeing the build, right, he is going to go blade mail this game, playing versus the Moerza. Mid won't connect to Sunstrike. Disimulate used by Oppen to dodge. Really wanted him here and they will not get him. He's again just out of range of white. I'm being able to get a grab on him and now TP's are coming over. coming over and our white bod potentially trouble himself remnants there into the blast off he's got the nightmare to at least hold back Arbet Arbet still with a natural step ready to get away or tick down on take out so white money he goes to progress and for a cost of his life but he's out absolutely sets up for BZM and kill Arbet off he needs some type of kills to catch back up in this game so white might he'll sacrifice himself for it dominator is finished 33 as you said having an insane game getting that first blood. A very annoying game to play. These supports are sort of like, and Techies has ways around it, but as we have the Adlitch, it's going to be very annoying for him. Especially this early timing. It's going to go to farm incredibly fast. I'm back going urn, so at least we're seeing the first item. We'll see if he does want to pull the Upgrader because it doesn't look like a very fantastic vessel game. Last game, absolutely, you can see the reason. Reversal versus Alcatimbersaw, but this one probably not the case house dreamer he wants to do it again he's gonna get the setup last off in and the brand-new flies coming in with the extra damage they've got the control the pushback will hold back on them momentarily but he cannot run bzm the stampede being used to land on the closing cannot they get out though stomp comes in he's gonna stimulate no astral step over 10 seconds to our bed will get taken out in trade there so at least not going away empty-handed that's on drop but BZM will continue to struggle. Yeah, they 33, he literally just hit six. The second he hits it, I have to help my boy. Tums in, but again, BZM gets brought down. They popped Lotus on him as well. They threw a lot of things to try to save him. House scream. Why mon? She'll slight misclick there. Sleeping himself. Mine should be able to chase him. It doesn't have a TP house scream. I don't know how much they want to chase back. Why? We'll get a kill. You see I'm happy about that He still wants him why mom Tough to chase this hero though. It's techies in the river this year. I was literally impossible to catch in the river They will see him. I believe in a second with the word Can he mess with him? He can all right. He actually catches him here More than enough Don't he's gonna keep running Yeah, never like now also they've got the control from Ari Push black in onto the sand so it kills Whitemon Bane making it happen finding kills pretty much all over the place. Ari with a very early level six as well now on this hoodlink too. First support level six of the game with all these rotations. He's the one salvaging the lanes. Him and Whitemon for these plays, BCM. Pretty much as the Kaia done. Of course behind the Void Spirit but only 700 so all things considered? Not too shabby? As you can recover with these Sunstreak plays. Mid lane, looking for Abed. Not quite enough, they don't have Sharpshooter, nor the mana. Just trying to hold him away. Oh, with the power ensues, that's going to get the chance to get a kill maybe here. Ahri tries to jump away from Sharpshooter, push back, but they've got the gap closed. Super aggressive plays from these supports this game. Trying enable these midlaners as much as possible. Very active game, 6-8. Tunger last time, struggling a lot more. Could be a much better position in terms of that mid game. Tamato does have the master madness, so we'll go back to the jungle and accelerate his farm pretty massively. safe liners. Not punished too much here, sorry. Folks just having that one death. The 33 is absolutely massive at the bottom lane. He's gonna have an incredibly fast combo of overlord. Pophead does not wanna commit. The double force spirits are starting to be quite annoying here as we see 33 starting to munch on those towers. The nightmare set up. It should happen. Hammer into the shop shop. Easy aim. Catch him back up through these kills. I dislike it, I feel like it's going to be a big problem. I'm really worried just because how big he is. The harm of Overlord is going to be finished so fast that it... He can take cover. He can kill almost anybody with that. Who's going to be pushing him out of lanes? Who do you send down here to deal with him? A chain frost plus like two heroes, right? You just go for killing him Definitely not the easiest as he's got all these summons is what it worked with first chain frost and versus eclipse, right? 33th, we'll be able to bail away very quickly and even potentially look for the aggressive move on mid with the shapeshift Sleep I'm gonna clean up the tower now spin perhaps now He'll get left behind It's time to start in a rack up the kills taking over the map as well with these early tier ones They're bringing down and a lot of momentum and not a lot the VP can do to stop those sort of place But what what is the plan after VP? Do they have some sort of? Set up you imagine what some sort of smoke play between like the the lich and the void spirit I think they kind of have to right? I wanted something maybe it a little bit sooner They maybe already should have combined with the three supports a little better around that voice for it losing this power very early on here And fly he's struggling Versus that like and we're seeing it. There's they're grouping it now is this month And they're gonna go for them where it's us so trying to slow down pure as we said, you know There's other problems as well starting to kick off very quickly and focus recovering like it is absolutely massive They got to find this connection And often has shown he's going vessel by the way, so he is committing for that build I find one in the trees. That will mean that there's the info for Pia to get out of it. Not the one that they wanted. So Vestal's done. As we said, not as good as the Vestal game as last time. It has its merits at the least versus the Lycan. It does take him up a bit, it does mean. It's not going to be that early base player. We'll see if all of it does go for that afterwards. Maybe Pivots is filled. So it's great. Bottom. It's enough. Another one for BZM. these two can always get kills like that all the supports will die every time to shot at the top they want to fight they're gonna get the stand up on a while if the stampede comes in to play our bet on the run the Hellscream taking a hell of a lot of damage there from the summons at 33 is he stable able to TP out our better the Hellscream's gone our bet he's got one more step to play with 33 still hot on this chase Sunstrike coming in it hits and 33 get a few hits and just simulate is backup so that should be enough to keep Ah, best day. Ah, Kieran? He wanted to try and go over the kill. He doesn't have the ult, so maybe he can. Yeah, he can hit it with the dead shot. Turn around on a fly. He'll take the kill. Two shots. This is a sad game to play, Lich. Although we've seen this hero do incredibly well throughout this tournament. This is one of those that we're not seeing right now. Zero five on him. White one. Actually does not get caught by the Aether element there. Ah, but it will protect the shrine. But Tundra, very good aggressive plays. Oh, he's looking so much better. As opposed to game one where... Tundra weren't really able to do much other than kind of sit back and farm with the outclass game this time round much more proactive BGM is getting to have a game and already right when he's sort of at this point on his invoker You know we're seeing where the story goes from this point onwards Normally the BGM invoker if he doesn't get completely shut down at the start. He's gonna have a fine time Especially if he has this type of setup right he probably has two of the best setup supports in the game for him at the Moment the hoodwink high burst damage plus a stun Bane the best literal best setup in the game for Sunstrike's They appeared, getting involved early too, to look for these kills they want to find Luna. They do want to slow down Tamato because he has to have been quietly hitting the creeps. He's continuing to creep toward that top net worth. Still running to fly. Tamato shows himself in the wave as well. Can he hide? Sunstrike to scout. He will. He's got Hell Screamin' on our bed by his side. Can they fight back? They're thinking about it, but... It's dangerous. Invoker cutting them off. Seems about alright. And they've got the Grip as well on Arbet. The Grip's there, we'll get put to a stop by the blast stuff coming in. Tomato now, look at it trying to turn in with the Eclipse. White Mon, look at it finished up by Arbet. Tomato getting chased down by 33. The Frost Shield not gonna save him. Now they're trying to fly as 33 cleans up a double. 9-30, he's just running rampant in this game. He is literally untouched, buys the shard, immediately has the triple wolves to just running right through everything there. I remember us to get back in. See if they can go for pure. Don't get the remnant onto pure. He's dropping low. Called by the stun. It's pure. But it dodged the blast off. Aw, he's jukein' a lot here. He is. 33's here to try and help keep them off pure, but pure will still die. 33's killin' them though. I mean, R is ready to bring the damage to the sharpshooter indeed. They can't deal with this like in 33, doesn't even need the ult right now to just right-click them down, Arbet. See if he's got any way out of this PGM, he's coming over to help out to take Arbet down. Get out with one of the steps, we'll be able to dodge Tornado to simulate up in a second. Get the nightmares there, into the blast, the sub-strike, you'll still get the jump off, doesn't matter. White one's able to reach in with a brain sap and take Arbet out. Takes them quite a long time to bring pure down so many heroes rotated. I bet dies BGM turns up BGM it died and came back into the fight for an end. Yeah, and then most people I split the boots of travel Very good game to have this boss meteor hammer build with like and as well being able to get involved super early as we continue To see a 33 don't know how they deal with him His summons are incredibly strong at this point I have to somehow find him alone, but as you say, he never is really truly alone with those summons by his side. It does feel like it was one of the perfect picks, right? Versus the Luna, versus the Chain Frost, versus so many of these things. It just beats everything. They have so many summons with the port spirits on top too. Continue to have a fantastic game. As we said, Tamato, she's the reason that this game, at least on the numbers, are still close. Only dies twice so far here. I do imagine because of the presence of all these summons, even though we did see this Agnem's Lunabilby an approach against the Burts before, that this time around you just probably don't lean into it and you go for a more classic, full on on the right click. Butterfly BKB probably going to be the case I would imagine for tomorrow. And he is going to have those buff ups right, this is what we were saying, the Centaur with the Luna is something they really like to play. The Crimson is coming pretty soon, so at least that will be that protection versus the Lycan that they do need. catch white one on the high ground, not a good grab, yeah I've been going for the shard so gone the build that we used to see on the Void Spirit a lot we'll see how sort of the timing when Saberlight has those auras online makes the difference as it has done in the past but we've seen these sort of lines really come together around those pickups on the hero such as the And suddenly the outcomes of these team fights are drastically different. It's gonna block a fair bit, right? The acorns, all these small little instances. Of course, Pierre is gonna go right through it. He's gonna be incredibly powerful versus that Crimson Guard. So it's not gonna be an end-all-be-all answer, but it's gonna protect a whole lot versus that like, and they absolutely needed this point, versus the 30th frame. Ato's finished up for Ari. Some extra catch, as we saw. You know, took a little bit of time to get Abed before. the day with ATOS will be a little easier. Look in the hunt, DZM. DZM's got, it's a very greedy build he's gone for, but it's like the Invoker build that we're seeing. And it looks like, I mean, and I think this is a 33 kind of influence. Double stage, double stage mark. Yeah, and the Wind Lace. We kept the 3th in the other day, right? On a 33. Yeah, I mean, it's a thing that happens, you know, we've heard it in interviews. When you play with 33, he'll make you buy the Wind Laces, he'll make you buy all these efficient items. I haven't seen BZM do this before, so I'm cool to see. Smoked up. Can for another play here. Save the light. Crimson's done. Wants the pipe. Tormentor likely gonna be for free for Tundra, like no always just kind of gives it to you. Don't believe that VP can contest that by any means. Can they go for a tower push though because they probably will expect this is happening so they are set up around the mid lane. That's the setup from Ari. Not enough this time to burst straight through the ledge. See how he'll scream now over there? He does end up getting clipped by the brunt of the full combat. And on the meanwhile that tormentor it is brought down. He's got it on his eye? Yep. The power of lichen. BGM. Cross Shard gonna farm incredibly fast gonna go for that bkb safe route next now when he has bkb There's not a lot that goes through it on the side of VP early I mean at the trap saber light Can he actually get out with that though, I don't think so and they've got great control he's gone Bees him oh He said to play maps. He's like, oh. We'll be OK, though, as we said. The Crimson Guard is not going to be the end all-bill answer of this game. A lot of things that go through it. And just thought, yeah, it's going to be a long time, it feels, until Tomato's going to be ready to sort of sit there in the middle of the fight and kind of dish out the damage right. He needs the BKB and the butterfly ready to be able to have any good catch. A huge catch! Finding Pure on the way if they did not expect VP to be that deep on his side of the map. I want to see this combo, these two together. Abed and House been looking for these kills. I'm pureing all over them, because they can always threaten the kills onto this Muerta until she has the BKB. So perfect catch, slowing down the farm, enabling Tamato. His BKB's coming soon, on the Luna. Abed. Instead of spare, some more pull-up they have. Nope. Must be able to jump out safely, and found flies dead in the trees, Arbett should be able to get out, but... Did Ari just hop in? He woke him up. Yeah, he said sorry. He was like, whoopsie. Because he went in by the right click, didn't he? Yeah. But he came out on to himself rather than just standing up with some sort of just tree and sort of bushwhack. Yeah. They do get the kill on the list though, and they do claim the tier two, so they got the objective, but probably wanted to get the big kill as well. Tomorrow, BKB's done. So they have BKB, they have the crims and some rally around. I think he can start turning up and maybe doesn't want to be super enthusiastic of how he does want to does still want the butterfly timing AC soon on the horizon for 33 As you said they are getting this nice tries they are getting like a try scaling corn kind of like a two-ish 1.5 is scale and core on the side of VP so it's gonna be a lot of pressure on tomorrow yeah I mean yeah the late game does not look too hot for VP's lineup against what tundra have feels like they have to start they have to get some more kills yeah we're going here with Abed and house cream to continue getting harder BCM able to farm that BKB as we said it's a greedy build but when you do have this type of style you do farm at an incredible the taste of this cloth shard. It always tends to be the name of the game for Tundra, right? Efficiency of farm. As pure, BKB's done for him. So for Tundra, they might force the issue, but VP might also look to force something into an objective since they have the BKB. Savorlight? Getting caught at the start of things here. Rapper on coming in and they're just gonna go full commit on each of the dead in the old. Yep They take him out in an instant. I mean that's the crate He's just gone in seconds They're gonna see if they can try and chase on for more And it's neutral if it hits you you're dead And if you don't have a way to get rid of that debuff, it's 50% of your armor just gone BGMs looking for more What's the term but it was 33 they've got their hands on our bed the cold snap city can't jump away Tomorrow, he has to BKB. Can he fight this? He ought to deal with the summons, but it has to be a BKB and CPL. They don't need to persist for him. They're going to go for the Roshan, so use that BKB. VP, trying to fight back into this, but it's Tundra getting the catch of Saberlight. He thinks he's tankier than he is. That's a pretty far. How can they take any sort of theme fight? I don't know. Central dies this quickly. Yeah, they need every little thing. They need his auras, they need his thuns, and Tundra. Tundra, they're starting to run away with this game pretty quickly around this 33 like in 709 Streamer let the perfect Victor and things off. Yeah Sable it again. He should be okay this time. Maybe not the beans, but I've got to hide. He's gone Again, that's a rough death there three to roll by himself essentially and that's such a great time last game on his act he did I'm pretty much impossible for him, he's on the high now, he's going to find Fly! Same thing to maybe try and find Tomatos, we'll make it out of there. Maybe trying to bait them through the portals since Hellscream does have some mines in the area. R.A., is he going to fall for it? How tempted is he? It seems like they figure that probably won't be the best move to go through that twin gate right now I think pure dead shot it and actually scouted that they were up there And oh the acorn just flies across the map and gives them information that tomorrow I was just standing on top of each other, the one that he had shot through the gate from earlier Tundra, yeah, firm grasp of this game now VP, the timing system is nothing, the crimson Three fights, not even, they weren't even fights right? Three times in a row he just dies Yeah, I'm not even able to bring a hatch bomb as tomato on the lunar and it's just that fun doesn't really go off a whole way at this point in the game right it turns up on this lunar it's never like will be forced to stand keep at the building it's just dying to the summons they really just feel like this was a gotcha pick this like in it getting first blood as well yeah that was a really scary going earlier for 33 he He was very happy with that one. Yeah, really set the pace for this. Saberlight. Taking a hell of a lot of damage. They bring the entire squad to defend the racks, but only just down to 500 HP, and that was without Cure even being there. Feels like they have one more good fight for the side of VP, and it's gonna be around the butterfly timing of Tomato. If he's able to get that, if they can win the fight, then they can continue progressing in this game. But if they don't win that fight, the game's likely just over. and he doesn't have it just yet poke continues I'm gonna save each other with these forces they're doing this as, yeah, like the 3-4 heroes in the mid lane while pure just farms and pushes top lane time to get the grab on a fly! forces there though something got the tree parry pretty much gone though crimson We'll block him, but yeah, 40 HP. And the wolf claims it. What does he have on the courier? That's all he did by a full item if I wasn't mistaken. On the lichen. But we're good! So even more troubles for Arbet. I mean, yeah, there's not gonna be... any sort of way to remove that anytime soon on Arbet. Enough in the eventual bloodthorn ring. And he can't go for pure. We'll be fine. Decent amount of burst, because he has that Aegis anyway so if you're not too afraid of continuing to siege... ...and Tomato, very close to having the butterfly, he will have it done. Okay. See what he can do. Save a light, enter the burst again, they'll be able to get through the Aegis. Save a light? I think I can get back out of these porters, they're doing a hell of a lot right now! One BP, save you one another. Okay, butterfly finished for Tomato. See if they can hold on to this high ground. They jump again on a pure, the nice BKB. And comes out there allows them to get the BKB and the ult off. Tomorrow Pots of the BKB, but he has to run. Stampede's there. BP has to back away from the Muayah to for now. Ooh, they stacked a lot of abilities there. The BKB, they used pretty much everything all at the same time and Tundra just resets with just a nightmare onto pure. BP? They want to try to chase her to get a kill. That would have been huge. Oh, that would have been such a huge kill. Just out of range there without Hustle, and he was super alone too. You've been pretty massive. At least just slow him down, get that extra gold for yourself that you absolutely need at this point. 14,000 lead now for Tundra. Rax has claimed... A full... Oh my god, already is farmed. A full hex after the ATO, so a hex also on bees... Oh my god, the items are flying out. They do have the four staffs to save each other to pull back as I swan-hack this thing. How many forces do they have? Was it three at the moment? I saw at least two. Yeah, you're right. It's just the two at the moment, but they're having a good work with those. They have been at least limiting some of the casualties on VP, saving one another. Looking for an opportunity to catch the Muerta right now while the BKB is on cooldown. Not gonna be the case. Not gonna be able to find that. Kerr will rejoin Torrance's team. 33's been stuck in the funny animation, the whole game by the way. Now what, is this like the stunned animation now? I swear, Muerta in like in every game, they get stunned and they get stuck in this animation. This time some of the Muerta's not, actually. Tundra. Looking for the next fight. A blink on pure. Oh, he's a good Q-man. Who's coming in the last off? We'll take Ari out of the fight. Now look at the grab on the most dead he's free, but dead he's free. He's able to run. We'll get away from Zomar as he clips. He's so close to them killing him as well. He'll be huge if they do finish off that like, and he's still lingering pretty low HP. House scream. They're gonna find him with that. It's house-grade. They're calling outside of the base. PZM, did come up with the BKB to get the kill. They're thinking about going back in. Pierce still has BKB and Ulti at the ready. Kind of all on-stable, I'm ready to sort of get these big, blink-roof stumps. And dangerous, too, right? Tomorrow not having BKB, it doesn't want to chase super far forward. And always hard to do whilst they have this pain hidden in the trees, ready with the nightmare saves. Tamato continued to get some progression. Dragon Lance is now finished up, has hit the level 20. Then Stabilite getting closer and closer to least toward that pipe to rally around with Tamato. Wolves starting to cut the waves. Top will be Siege for those. Net 33 is going to go for the same peeking, and the challenge Stabilite can have to strike 4 as soon as he steps up the life. Multiple times now they've been able to find this entire he was at least getting closer closer toward that pipe That's good. I mean they just go so quickly at this point. I'm way to Looking at that as strong as they did really last game You know tomato showed us in game one pure shown us in game two out this here a really can't pop off Feels like the carries dream to play this you know at the moment still it's a fun one to play as well. It's super fun You got skills shots, you know, it's not stuff to do you get you get to look cool Washington. Uh-oh, fly. We'll be able to survive. Doesn't end up getting munched down. But, Tormentor! Another easy one for 33. Yep. Even though it doesn't look like he is attacking, he is. And already we'll claim it. Good one to buff up the invoker spells, he was actually looking to buy it. Next. And they just have to control the map, so they're getting that much more farming. The Luna is still farming, right? To modify some. But the The other two are significantly falling apart, Auri is about to pass them. And the thing is obviously with these next minutes of farm release, it's not like Tomatoes Damage Alpha is going to step up right, because it was getting the Hurricane Pike and then getting the St. Tannin. He might be able to survive a little longer in the front lines, but in terms of kind of bursting through some heroes with overwhelming damage, this is not going to happen for quite some time still until he gets the item after these two. Man, I almost want to see him take a bigger risk, right, go for a big damage right? But it's just hard to do so, versus... And he might still, right? He obviously has to say Q'd up. Next, maybe he gets something instead of the same tanning. If he does feel that the damage is lacking. But the thing is, like, the tanning versus Muerta kind of makes sense, because you can, like, reset and play around the purest of veils. So there's this argument where it's like, what's the best damage item versus Muerta anyway, because you can't really hit her a lot, so... Sure, you just want to outlive the... Yeah, I can kind of, you know, I can see if he does go for this type of a safer play here. BKB finished up for 33, MKB now for pure some big items starting to rack in for Tundra. The pipe it is finished up for Saberlight, so some extra survivability But he needs to be in the fight around the Luna. He cannot get caught at the start of things They need to apply this aura for the rest of the team so they can actually take a potential fight. Tundra though Looking for a catch and they do have the Ancient prowler as I mentioned before to desecrate base armor reduction 50% If you do get hit by it If you don't have some way to reset or dispell, you're dead. Ah, bad. He's seen him. I know somebody's coming. They're on pure. He can come out straight away as well as the opure turns, looks towards save the light, save the light, force the safety, but still, pure pushes forward. Won't be able to get him though, maybe with his pecs. Comes in to play, they've caught save the light, or get the blade fell off. Looks like he'll live. Ah, bad. Has he got anywhere out of this combo? He does not. They've got the stuns to take him out. Hellscream's getting achieved into the base by the summons. The OREG comes in, won't be enough to kill him. Piers, think if you can find some sort of angle, he can't. So Hellscream will live. Tomato. He's gonna get gripped. Does anyone have to break him out of this? It doesn't look like Kanisha's dead. He's got the ball. No buyback on him. Should be on the verge of going to a game three here as VP. Not a whole lot left to fight back with. as 33 cleans up Godlike on the lichen and there it is GG is called Tundra striking back super hard here in this game too. You're typing at the end of it and PCM tips. He's tied to the mine. Oh man that lichen pick. Yeah it broke the game really. And you can see the comfort around this invoker with the band. And the PCM back on the invoker and as you're having the dream set up around him right You know, what else could he ask for more than a white mom, Bane and an Ari Hood wing playing these sidelines setting these sun strikes up It was the dream for him and when you set BZM up for success when he's on invoker He'll achieve that success ends up 11 3 and 15 And there was some beautiful combos towards the end of the game Yeah tough one here for VP. They sort of will try to scramble together a way to Play against this kind of more air to line up And it's just kind of hard to find the right way to do it, especially if you fall behind early, when you go this lunar route. And it's a more to line up, but it's a more to line up with a like and just devastating your map, eating your supports, they end with 19 deaths on the two supports, unable to really assist and up above the course as much as they probably usually want to, because these two supports, we've seen them do quite good, at least of enabling a lot of these cores, but in this game, it doesn't feel like they're not their match of the rules. Yeah, absolutely. Well, we'll see what goes down in Game 3, things getting kind of spicy now, Now it's one-to-one here between Tundra and VP. Yeah, that overall last big lichen definitely was a thorn in Virtus.pro's side. There were a lot of problems that Virtus.pro had a couple of issues with in this game number two. For instance, I got to game three, I don't think many people complain about that. Always good to have some more entertainment. But with Virtus.pro, I think Jankers are going to be pretty sad about this one. Yeah, this one was pretty rough. I mean they played into a lot of the Kendra classic heroes and I feel like you can see why their classics You know Owen mentioned it the setup on the side lanes with some of the supports made for a really good early game There was a lot of situations where like Ari was getting kills Effectively solo that he shouldn't have been getting if it wasn't for having the invoker and then you have all of this with also 33 creating so much chaos unlike him. He was a mess this game. Yeah, it's just a hard game to play for the EPI thing. If you don't do very well in lanes and you keep the ball rolling, you need to get to this point where you have some towers down and Luna has Manta and you're the ones like asserting the map pressure, then you can play and you have to catch the rats and there's a whole mini-game. But if you don't even get to that point, then I don't know, you're just not going to beat Tundra like, because you're going to get picked apart, It's gonna start like in Flynn the voice spirit in draft and I think rightfully so like he kind of didn't do anything in this game He had like a little bit of impact for the first eight minutes the classic voice for the eight minute window And then as soon as 830 hits the gong Voice spirits impact is over the rest of the game. I mean he also want the vessel short build Yeah, and then I think he was killing up eggs. He bought eggs horrendous. Yeah, and I feel like voice spirits just He's just not it. I really feel like he's like when you don't get anything else you pick him right now That's how I've seen him picked in almost every single draft that I see him in and it's like a theoretical good hero against Invoker But it just doesn't play out if I could just never play that so I really hope VP moves away from it Actually the Saber is sometimes better than I expected Yeah But overall I feel like it just honestly was for me just the impact of the mid heroes was so skewed and thunderous favor Like an obviously like just no balls gets huge I got also a world where next game they should prioritize would win Chair Yeah, because I feel like that hero is kind of a standout for Tundra I feel like Ari is an ultra high impact when he plays this hero And I don't know if then like Rubik sure he's good at Rubik But to me there's a pretty big chasm stone between those two heroes and I feel like They should either pick or ban Woodwink like prior to Tiz the hero more highly Sometimes he's like random in between heroes like have a lot of impact You aren't really realizing that they're a bigger part of the draft No, but now he has a like eighty like three percent of the rate on it over eight games That's pretty crazy considering They're not doing great hundreds in the lower bracket. Yeah, you know, so it's definitely something worth looking at but they Thunder already. I mean it was second pick overall, but tundra first picked it So if you're saying it should have a higher priority, it should be straight up banned Or you take it yourself like if you're happy to play I think I think actually there's a lot to what you said I think especially when the team is not doing that well Taking away like one of those like cornerstone heroes that just kind of does everything for them is almost more important than like manning like some random lost picknet a hero or I don't know some hero for BZM I think and Quinn you mentioned it during the previous draft the Windranger was banned instead of it was like wind kez. Yeah, instead of invoker. Yeah, you're playing against tundra game To they're about to be eliminated You know they're gonna pull out the classics and they do and they stomp like that was That was rough dude. They looked really good in that game Yeah, I think it's one of the biggest components to drafting really well is not just what Theoretically is good, but you need to read the enemy team Especially if you win a game you need to read the next game. Okay, they just lost their backs are against the wall What do they want you have you'd need to ask yourself this question because it informs the decisions you make in the next game, right? Like you I see other teams playing as tundra first days banning hoodwink, right? You asked like is it a bad I think a lot of teams do opt to ban it over something else in Volcker It's like the classic. I already know next game plunge or my first pick invoker like it's already a commission is a million times They don't pick it the next game. They pick it second phase like next game They first pick it like they've done this a million times and it's a very good chance to do it again And so for me, I'm looking at VP. Can you bend correctly? Can you properly? Reassessed from this game because I think you lost at draft and early game. I think it's hard after that honestly Oh on Bulba. Yeah, no pressure. No drop is the team sport. Hmm. Well, I'm blaming him. I mean for this game Bulbas got a cook. He's got to go into the kitchen put the chef's hat on and he's got a cook because He's got the final say when it comes to this team everyone knows they're a team full of cucks. They all listen to Bulba He's the God He's the final say. So, okay, what do we think they're gonna play in Storm Spirit? on tundra he said he said it they will just pick him to look at i don't think storm is very good against tundra well you don't have a choice based on what jengen just told us they're a first picking storm so we need to theory craft how to beat storm nah i don't think they're first picking storm i think they're picking lich again with a hoodwink ban or an emboker ban or the first picking hoodwink with a... they have been banning a largo doom and beast master They've been banning Largo, Doom, and Beastmaster, so they've just been banning out of the arena. You can think they're banning Largo. Well, also, can't you leave the Largo? I feel like you leave the Beast. I saw them for a reason. I also think you leave the Beast. And the Beast is, I think, the weakest out of the heroes, like, power level-wise. Well, if they have... So, you want them to first-phase ban Invoker and Hoodlink? No, I think you ban... Or just Hoodlink. I think if you have first ban, or so you can first pick, then you ban one, you take the other. Okay. Oh, you would first pick Invoker. No, I think you first pick Hoodlink and you ban Invoker. Yeah, I think that's what I was gonna say. If you're second then you have an extra ban you can ban both. Yeah. Or you were banning Boundary. You really think that both games were that heavily decided on the draft? I think the first game was decided by play. I think so too. I think game one actually like 100-0s more. Which is why you said they were definitely going to win. Yeah. But I'm gonna keep saying they're definitely going to win. like keeps firing up DP. Let's go Saber! No I mean I think I wonder what they're talking about backstage because I think it's very easy to draw the wrong conclusions and it's very easy to be watching and think like, obviously this should ban this, like I can tell you like playing it's y'all in the final or whatever. It was not clear that we should ban Furion because there's like a doom we're thinking about and there's a visage and there's a tusk and there's some clockwork that they're picking every game with ranged heroes and it's like there's a win range or this broken. There's a lot of things that you're thinking about like is this one the the key to the city, is this one the important crux to they're drafting and knowing on to the outside is very simple, but I remember the Riyadh final like we had who make it Sapphire or like we had for fives we have like Chen we'd have anything else but nobody ever banned Chen We got Chen like every game the whole tournament and we're like man I wonder what we're gonna do if anyone bans Chen they never did you know like there's stuff like that We're like from the inside you know that like we need this hero. Yeah the outside You're not sure which one is so important to their soul. Yeah, this is a really big thing It is for this series. 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K.com. What? I said my favorite streaming website. Like audio streaming, like Spotify or... Which one was the one where he said you can buy the album? Bandcamp. Bandcamp. Go check out Bandcamp. And support for Japana's draft volume 2 is out. And game number 3 is coming your way. That's right, we got Virtus.Pro and Tundra and they're playing in a lower bracket here for Dream League Season 29 and that means elimination is on the line and I know there's a lot of people that would say on paper this theory shouldn't have been tied and it should just be Tundra rolling over Virtus.Pro but Virtus.Pro is showing up. They won game 1, then Tundra came back, won game number 2 and now we're going to have to figure out, well actually the teams are going to have to figure out. What they're gonna do because you guys said a large portion was a result of the draft maybe apart from game number one But we need a draft where where Virtus. Pro is actually having the option to outplay ton rock because in the game too That was not even an option. So Where do we want to take it? Do you want to assume? Would you go for the same picks and bans or so far both times Virtus. Pro has been and it was one on one, wasn't it? I think first pick and pick the hoodwink is the best thing we could come up with. If you're a Virgis, bro. If you're a VP, yeah. And if you're, I guess if you're Tundra, would you do the same? Yes, I don't see any flaws of it. Yeah, but you wouldn't ban in Volker, but you will first ban, they'll first pick hoodwink, I think. Hoodwink, I think, is in this series probably a first pick hero. I think the only thing Tundra considers is if they value first picking in Volker or first picking hoodwink, but I don't think they should. Yeah, I think that would be an easy choice. Yeah, I just feel like the trade off with Rubik is like, if your team's playing well and everything's going great, I don't think it's like a problem. Yeah. But I just think when you're not playing that well, who do you think is it more well rounded here than Rubik is? Yeah. I also think with the way their cores want to play right now, none of them are making moves. Like, Deezium is kind of off, to be honest, I think, this series and this tournament. Like, he's losing a lot of lanes. He's falling behind early. He's having a lot of rough games where he kind of feeds. So to me, if he's not making moves, Pure is playing some whatever carry hero. And we already know 33 is not making moves. So it's like, it has to be on the supports. And Rubik is not a move making hero, Rubik is a follow-up hero if your mid is making moves. And VZM is bad games, so like they need R.E. and White Moth to be on killer heroes. That's why this game looks so good, is because they're playing Bane Hoodwink. Like they're just playing ganker class while everyone else farms, right? Yeah, no for sure. I think that's the setups that they want. Yeah, and I think if you're VP, you want to avoid heroes that are like... I mean, I'm hard to get on about it, but I don't want heroes that are that volatile. I want heroes that are like more, um, they can adapt to the game state and like whatever happens happens because I think from their side you want to be able to play different types of games depending on how the lanes go because I think there's a lot of volatility we talked about their safe lane, I also think their off lane can be quite volatile uh, so both the side lanes are a bit like, you might have a really good side lane but you might also not, so trying to have heroes that are more well rounded can play like any type of game, don't need to necessarily have like specific conditions to make them work. Well they did change it up so they go with the option that someone mentioned where they let the Beastmaster in, previously they ban on Largo, Doom and Beastmaster, now they remove the hoodwink, they don't want to first pick it but they also don't want to give it away, almost broke the bird, sorry for that. Oh that would have been rough. No not the bird. But it's at first pick, this was a second phase ban from Tungra, they respected it from Saberlight and they just said when you guys are saying like you want to have people who are uncomfortable here, Saberlight and Axe is very comfortable. It is. Like, can you not just Invo here if you're Tundra? Fuck, he's already out. These are just the will, I think. Tango is already out. Like, I feel like you have a nice setup with the heroes that are already banned in this draft to just pick it. I do think even still, I think it's a better first phase than prior game if they do that. Yeah. Like, I think Axe or Saber is just gonna be good almost no matter what Tundra picks to be honest. Like, I think it's Saber's best hero, and I think it fits, yeah, I think that's somewhat expected. I think, theoretically, the better opener for them is Invoker Band hoodwing first pick. But I guess for whatever reason they don't want to play hoodwing, maybe Health Cream is not confident on it. That guy's kind of a quirky player. Weird, because it is one of his most played heroes. Yeah, and I think that opener would be better. But I think if we're talking about if they're not going to do that, I think this opener is okay. Yeah. It's definitely okay. Next best thing. What's a good way of dealing with the Invoker Band? I feel like that's the kind of part of the problem because I don't really see any super clear heroes as candidates of like Good invoker matchups for VP against Tundra. I think you need to ban Bane If you are Tundra, if you're VP if you're VP I mean the combination with the Sunstrike It enables it's a good hero against Fax. You can like sleep him during calls You can sleep the guy he calls you can and make sure they can't creep cut There's there's a lot of like benefits of playing banning Fax But it also really enables Invoker. That's like the big thing, right? You really have the best Sunstrike setup available to you on the entire map. And Bane becomes twice the power level when you have Sunstrike. It's to follow up on top of your Crips and stuff. Yeah, I understand why they've been tiny. It's also good with Invoker, or Lackardy. It's a Sunstrike setup. It's similar things, it's good against Axe too. But I don't know, now that these bans have come out, I feel like I can see more of why I think this first phase trade, like Invoker is also good against Ash, you get Tornado when you're called, but you can also never call Invoker, he's like ghost walked 100 miles away, you can never call him, it's impossible. So this trade is 0 for Tundra, and now like the fact that they can get Bane if they want it, they can get a Beastmaster later down the line, it's also good with Invoker. I'm more skeptical of this if he first phase, now that I see the bans come out. the banes a little sussie I mean I do think that like even if the tiny are next to like these are not easy matchups no this was close to show you like with when your best hero is axe that has like 15 counters and it doesn't set up the draft well compared to like the invoker from BZM that doesn't really have a clear answer when there's like the two best heroes already down to us I mean I think they're only picking this because they're gonna get the bane I think if they didn't weren't gonna get the bane I'll take to get picked as Markov. Like you hold a soft save, you also have tornado save. So like she can play in the end right now. Bro steal the bang! Go fly bang! I actually just drunk it. Onuronic I think. The reason they picked Markov is because they're scared of it getting picked. I know you guys like to bring this up like, is this to steal? This one I genuinely think it's because I feel like there's no reason not to pick the other ones. I mean I think it was last game too. Like I think the Morita kinda owned them, it didn't seem like they had answers for it. Right. And I mean it's a lot of pop pop. I think Axe is better though. Axe is the best one I think. Yeah. It's not even like a good matchup. It's more like we don't want to play against it and we actually do want it for our cast. Anyhow. Like I think this to me feels more steal-picky whereas last game was somewhat steal but also like it's just good. Yeah. But picking it into Axe is a little cocky. I mean it's definitely going like this is our comfort, this is what we're going to do well with. We know that we can play this, this is like... We're doing this, we don't really care so much about what you're presenting. We don't want you to take our mark that way, so we're going to up the priority. You said Ember is like, only farm guard, right? Yeah. And that's really rough in the end, wasn't it? I think it's fine, genuinely. Okay, okay. Like this thing is, tornadoes are really expensive, fell. Yeah. And you want more points in the Ford spirits, so you want to go 4-0-4, generally. Like I think this line is fine for Ember. There's no like 1-1. I mean, you can do it, but it's just not that powerful. Yeah, but the thing is, it also doesn't do any damage. If you purge Flameshield, and he's like, okay, and then he just draws aggro, he's still full HP, and now you've burned your mana. You can only do it like three times for Gata Manor. But it sounds like it's good in theory, but in practicality, the tornado skilling doesn't actually do anything. You also can't like meet Volcano because he just presses his light. But there's a lot of things like, you don't have any kill threat, and if you're skilling tornado and you're lessening your force for an impact, and you don't have kill threat, then it just feels kind of sad. It's better to just hit him before it just... Yeah, it's the same thing with the aura of the matchup, whatever. Like, you hold your spell and he's holding his spell. It's like if you were both not using spells now. It's not as black and white. That makes sense. Tusk! Coming out! Before Tundra! Who reckoned on the Tusk actually? Tusk is the old, good old, FY counter-docks. I hope everybody remembers this clip. Tusk King. Obviously very strong save hero. safe hero against Axe also lanes pretty easily in turn So I wouldn't be surprised to see the mark on Axe going to safe lane mark, uh, Fost But I'm very very curious what they picked for Rory here, and I feel like this is like it's gonna be an important pick Like the Rubik doesn't really have like a spouse. It's probably not gonna be Rubik That's the other classic when Invoker Okay, and the other R-E special. If you're if you can't play hoodwink Thank you, you'll play Shadow Shaman. And we are once again in a scenario where he has very good setup for some reason. Yeah, he's testing it. It's great. The chain disables, lock people into the ice shards even as a good setup. Shaman is maybe the best in the game. It is so easy. What would you rather have? Shaman or Zane? Probably Shaman if both heroes are good. Maybe Bane is better in terms of like the way that he plays the map, The way that he likes to play is like looking for the solo kills, and Shaman is more, you're playing around objectives. But in terms of just raw, you have a lot of time to press the button. Shaman feels... You like the way he goes. Yeah, that's nice. Because you're not taking the nightmare off when you... When you hit this one. But also, it offers a lot more. I mean, it still offers tower push as well, which the rest maybe are not as good at. I think Shaman's been kinda trash recently though, is what I thought like. Well, that's going to start to underplay it. It looked horrible, no granted that was a really bad Shadow Shogun game. But you've still got one support to counter it, and I think, I mean, I think the best counters to this hero are just continued counter-Cancel Shackles easily. And they've got two ways that are decent right now, they've got Shackle Shot, and they've got the Whip, they've got the Box. Yeah, the Box, they've got three, I guess, actually. Paul is fine, but they're unrealistic. Paul Paul is. Yeah, it's a bit ex-dead. So I think that's okay. If you could get another, it's really nice. I think the more ways you have to cancel shackles the better as they consider without shackles is It's doing the cameras And my only concern with shot of shaman husk is that it's essentially two supports. It's your damage. Yeah When it comes to like you bet the stuff they're exclusively locked out So they need they need to be in good positions or they can scale off I also think like ember is just it already just makes the draft look so much better like it was a void spear I think it would look so bad yeah ember like ember is killing its heroes like it's nothing crazy like ember is good against Invoker and ember has a good lane you can play against pretty much anything it's hard to kill barb at the right if you're VP zeros right now it's like almost acts like a nice day to call this character is pretty unkillable Is there anything they can pick right now? Does Phoenix do better against Muerta? Do we believe in Phoenix pick? I think Phoenix is the most important one for Muerta. Oh, yeah. Especially Alacrity, Muerta. What do you guys think about Moon Master as the last pick for Tundra? I feel like VP is afraid of lots of things running at them. Ruru is like the remaining one that does fine against Wind and Lane. Take off the flame guard from Ember, safe from Max. Just trying to think like, what... what... uh, Sujiro could 33B right now. Oh, Ruru's a Rusekist, I think. A lot of his heroes are banned as Sujiro. I think this is... I think, honestly, in some ways this is similar to for Master, Master and that they think they just need like a beef hero They need some guy a big Chungus who runs in and they can't really do much too because the stops are not gonna start fights Eventually, and I think we have invoker and where it's like you need a core starter to You want to stop one? But you need a core one as well or the middle a game to get too weird because like shaman and tusk can't start fights Like like 30 minutes plus not really. I think comparative room. This is my server killing ember. Yeah with a shard And it's a big thing in the same with Cataclysm. Like this is one of those we will win late game combos. If the game goes late enough and they get the double tide ravage, double Cataclysm, it's just instant death for any hero. I really dislike the Phoenix. The only thing I could see where it's good is that they managed to lane it at the dusk. But I think if they don't do that, I don't really see the purpose of this hero. I think it's literally just combo. I think it's not even good against a Voker. There's no reason to pick it. It's literally just pure comfort pick with no rational thought or counterpicking behind it, which is kind of stupid in a way to do that, to just pick a hero purely for comfort even though it's cheeks. That being said, I do think if he's trapped, it's better than last game. I think they have better chances. I do think there's some scaling problems, like you said with the Cataclysm Bravage later again, but it's crazy. They have ways to kite and they have more comfort. I think it's more playable even though I do think it's Tundra favorite. But we praised Tundra for going for their comfort in the previous game, so why doesn't VP come for it? I think the difference is that Tundra has proven that with their comfort they can win games. It doesn't really... it doesn't have to be the best matchups. Whereas for VP, we haven't seen that yet. And today might be the day they prove it to us, that it is possible. And their comfort matters just as much as Tundra's. But you wanna say... I'm waiting for your firing up of Saberline. Oh yeah, Saber's gonna feed his brains off this game, and there's just absolutely no way that he could move me wrong. There you go, let's see if Saber-Lite can prove Aiden wrong and take this game winner of this one game. I will stay in the competition, the other one is. Ouch, over to what he thinks I'm fucked, and a puck to my nerves. We're going to get the first blood going for Hellscream as he takes our white mark. Instant smoke too. Using all three daggers right away. Yep. Very good. Very strong. Game 3 here. VP versus Tundra. We're deciding to match one of these teams. It's going to be out of the tournament after the result of this one. And VP, a similar draft as they played and executed with the first game. Sure, some change-ups with the Winner, Enter, and Phoenix. We'll see if those end up working out, because those are the two that I actually don't like in comparison to the rest of what they had. However, they played really good with the Axe, right? Saberlight and Abed both kind of ran the game on these two heroes. So looking to do that again the lane might be a little bit harder for the ember in particular But the game infinitely better because I don't avoid spirit I'm kind of done seeing this hero as well just seems to it ain't really fall off super hard If you don't just gig a snowball and the thing is what ember also ain't doing that great in turn He's not but you say I've been shown us the power of it once today in this series Maybe you can go again here Game yeah, let's see how he does end up doing these yeah, I'm watcher just play as invoker overall his setup this game pretty good I wouldn't say as good as last time with the bane and the hoodwink those do feel like literal dream to play with the invoker but some pretty solid setup the clear ones right shackles in particular the punch later on and the important thing to um I do want to mention is getting first blood when you have ringmaster sometimes it exchanges a dynamic of a lane because you're like oh we're gonna kill this guy and then he pops the strong man tonic and ends up just surviving so let's see if it is going to be enough to actually put him over the edge. I think the strongmantonic might just save him. Let's see if there's a fairy fire. I'm going to get him in five seconds from the next shot, that's right. Yes, a bunch of it. It doesn't pop the fairy. I'm going to get it. Takes him a little longer, but yeah, the strongmantonic is received. Almost ends up making him survive. I've seen sometimes that you really think that you're going to win a lane and then it's just like, oh my god, this guy has a tonic and on those, a fart and he walks away and you're just like, yeah, missing out on a kill that you should have got. That's a modder. Not a bit of a tough game to carry last game on his luna, still got pretty good farm. You know, he was up there with as much farm as the core of Tungers, but couldn't quite do it. I mean, it does feel like Wim Ranger can kind of be that similar sort of hero, right? You end up kind of stagnating and growth and sticking around a similar amount of farm to the opponents. It's very difficult to solo carry a game as a windranger carry. A game where it's like you look and it's like this windranger needs BKB quite early on and there's still going to be things that bypass it. The stun strike, the punch, if he doesn't get it off pre some of these stuns, he can just get chain lockdown. So I do have some concerns for Tamato if he does start to stagnate in this game. Because there's just a lot that goes through the windrun as well too. They have to punch, they have these crazy forms of lockdown and eventually Muerto can just eat you alive. Yeah, I mean this is the thing right, I feel like we have reason to have much more confidence in Muerto being able to carry a game in this day and age as opposed to a Windranger. Yeah, very specific players have made the Windranger look that much more stellar in that carry position. Right now Lane's looking good though, 14-4, that is the one thing that this Windranger is going to have versus this Shadow Shaman in Tide, it should have no pressure in the lane. And in mid lane, he's at AWB. I don't think he'll have as many denies by any means. He should have a good lane, but BZM is gonna have a much better lane in comparison versus the Void Spirit. Just easier to harass, easier to play with your Forged Spirit in comparison. Although he does give up two or three Forged Spirits, I would just saw now. to help. Yeah, good pressure on a pure and white one, keeping the blow very low. It's a lot of damage in this lane. This tabulate always also going for the 1-1-1 skill build. I tend to like this build a lot of times too. If you ever can close the gap and you get the call versus some of these fragile heroes like Amoresta, they just die yourself. Too like that he could go to go for this build White man has healed up has hit level three Kirby kept incredibly well though Tough to get to my last white one is in position. They'll drag the way it but here comes a movement Sorry as we see him do a lot for this team I'm gonna help out Sunstrike's gonna connect. He's gonna jump in and try and get them off him but he only ends up giving up his life as well. They'll clean up the two of them. And now Fly coming in as well, they're not the Lotus for Puring, not Fly. She was fine, and Fly maybe not so much. They've got mangoes, Ari. They should be able to close it with the blood grenade. Not the move there, the VP hoped for. That's a brutal one, white one. Killing spree for him, trying to take advantage of low HP pure would end up giving a ton to him. Ari does this a lot, right? Four minutes in, TPS he even makes those move toward the mid lane so the same thing for miss hoodwink in the last game Got it prepared for those moves Mid lane a little bit of an edge here for Bzm, but the people deny. Yeah, the denies are the nice thing Fly fly which one? Fly on fly mosquito kink Love it White mon the hell to start though three kills for him A mid game banana snack Bastion BGM right the voice pair before it's a clear advantage of him this time around the museum doing much better rotations coming fly Maybe this is just to set up some vision around the triangle maybe looking for a gank onto BGM perhaps Gonna bring the three heroes toward the mid lane White Monk, he does seem to be a whiter. Check for a ward. It's gonna be a sentry. The ward's actually on the other side and will be expiring shortly. 33's his Dragoncance since he's been left alone in the lane, versus that Windranger should be able to handle his own pretty decently. Power shot, nice and done from Tamato to steal some of them. fly we'll try to burn him they're bringing the ring master so much that they want to kill 33 you don't want to get away with this I'm not gonna latch on the power stuff off the mark it's not an easy kill to go for nice double side step there the daggers are strong the two of us still trying to chase but they're not gonna happen power run oh it didn't spawn yet Yeah, where's it gonna spawn? Wait, this is it. Look, it's six minutes and it didn't spawn, we know. It does spawn a slightly slightly delayed. Why did they never change that? What did you do that? It's the server ticks. Every ruin that spawns if a member's taken, it's like one extra point zero three server tick. Yeah, but there's no way that's one tick of a delay. It's more than one tick that it doesn't spawn after the clock at the top says... On the minute. When you get to like 40 minutes, and now it's been like... I remember like 30 something instances of the ticks. I remember either way. It spawns upon this region. So, I get it. I know all of us know that right you're like the room where you know yeah I just I wonder why it does this of those pieces of reason in the world of me creating and developing video games why it has that little delay reason white mon is a kind of cheeky move there just tracks the creep wave can bring that one into a nice comfortable spot for pure to farm that we're gonna be a lower kill count game it feels like than the last time especially into this third game and as we said BGM doesn't have the same type of Sunstrike set up on the sides and overall I think VP has better ways to answer it you do see them move to contest for the shrine fly he's got Arbet coming in also. They've got the numbers, MVP. It's a thunder, we'll have to be a bit careful. Sunstrike comes down on a fly, but flies fine. It's gonna be enough to burn through Ari. BCM is coming, but it's a bit late. We'll be able to at least take our fly in return. The look of the timing is Arbet. We'll be able to dodge some of that damage. The Kings look at him before he can get away with the Bremnant. Bremnant's there in time. Sunstrike's still on cooldown, enough to worry about them they do get the shine on the ice pack of cool down just doesn't have the manner let the manner and say to our delimitary vision at the moment on our bed heavy rotations to ensure that they get that BGM feels needed yep join there and absolutely it was 33 and surviving very low HP pressure on top saber light because of all these moves is starting to get a fair bit onto this tower here his axe was very important in that first game how much he was able to do. And Cheri actually just walks up and gets caught. Same time in the mid, they get the snowball into the hex on towards him, so... At least get something else from the map, but as you said, what was going on top? He walked in, deadshot it, Saberlight, and Saberlight was deadshot it on top of him and got the call. So, just... Oh, so it was literally deadshot gone wrong. It's like, you don't want to deadshot the axe close to you. He did have the three heroes that back up so likely that it gets caught anyway, but that was a little awkward the way that it kicked off there from Cheri. Whoopsie. 2K lead, VP. Losing op-ed, but getting a big kill and a tower in stable light. Being enabled on his axe, and he, like I said, he was kind of the dictator of the paste in that first game. When he was playing this, able to find a lot of catches here. And Twyler's getting super far. He is. Down on this bottom lane, there's probably a few kind of kill involvements. And for the tide, right? When you have the javelin finished up, now on the wind ranger, you can start pose and kill Threat even up to 33 if he does step up and show. So focus fire, 33. Yeah, they're gonna go straight for him. They've got that javelin! Look at that damage! He's gonna have to wrap it! Oh my god, he's gonna get him?! No, I'll tell you what! He's already done him better! Fitching it first! It happens sometimes. He starts to rack up pretty quickly with that chip first, you know? Look how much damage he actually took. Yeah, it wasn't even extra... 480 damage! Yeah! Done by the chip first. I actually... I honestly didn't see that he had the chip first. So like, he started hitting him and I was like, Oh, wait a minute. It happens, but that's a pretty brutal death after he's having such a good start, alright? Welcome to the town. Why, that's pretty insane. But it just only happens once. I mean, ChipFest is always gonna be annoying. It's gonna be very annoying for him all game. So, focus firing Tidehunter might not happen again for some time. It's like when you focus fire Centaur once and you're like, oh god, what am I doing? I should still be able to get this down on the head. It was a big opportunity as well for them to climb it with the rampage, right? With the stun strike, just the slight calculations, all different to motto. I bet Power Rune will be an amp damage bottom. Should be secured as well. 3k lead at the moment. 6 is still not there for the supports. Whitemon has hit 6, so he does have the punch available if they want to look to make some move. But it's actually Abed. He's feeling strong. He's gonna find Ari again. A few times now to keep finding this Shaman. Hero that we're not seeing that much and probably for a reason. Definitely has difficulties to run in. I mean, using shackles is just problematic in most games and they have a lot of ways to cancel it or just damage that's gonna kill him during that as well too so alright struggling in this game and the hoodwink he was able to make all these moves happen but this time on the shaman being met with that force of op-ed it's gonna get very good timing of the best of their op-ed three of the cores that timing's very nicely on VP and blade mills already done for the axe. Just a little bit faster on pretty much all three fronts than the side of Tundra at the moment. Stacks, it's time. So Tundra, they did spend a lot of time going for those, so 33 and BZM, they'll just farm them together. They don't want to use a good stolen, they do need this recovery. I don't know if the pure top VP have ways to close the gap he is he doesn't have ulti he has one charge but no ult to reset is holding a skill point for the calling he's playing pretty carefully seems to know maybe not stepping back up he's got a buddy to go for a kill and he's actually sandwiched on we kind of got a little bit baited there by white one tried to step up to help white one out I mean white one will buy him a bit of time here in the Snowball, but as soon as he comes out he gets dunked by Saber-Like. Whitewood tries to save himself with a shot, but he's gonna get dunked as well. They just end up feeding a double kill there to Saber-Like. Bended by your ally, but a great read. VP in position to punish that play. Saber-Like. Just finished BladeMill. He's 500 away from Blink Dagger. Yeah, this is scary, especially as you say when we saw what happened in Game 1 around his axe. And it's a Muerta, right? So it's a Blink BladeMill call versus Muerta at almost any stages of the game. I mean, yeah, that's pretty much the best way to counter him. The literal best. It's gonna be late male heroes and at the moment acts pretty much the best one in the meta. Yeah, like Centaurs kind of feels like almost a bait in a way sometimes because you just get ignored and then your other timings get delayed, so... It does feel like the absolute best. They do have counters, right? They do have the snowball, but that does mean that Wyman has to be in the vicinity. Tomato, Bono, they've got the setup. Just get the wind runoff. Ideally they want to do this without the ravage and they'll manage to do so. So I'm gonna take him out, they don't need to use Ravage, then you drop down the Serpent Ward and look to take the tower. Sure may be struggling, but BZM is definitely thriving in this game. And this is one of those where he might prioritize the Aghanims, where we've seen his throw away from it a lot of times, but he has Tidehunter, right? He has the Colombo, that big Wombo combo that can go for with it. Here we go. Saber-like. Blink is done. See how much you can how much you can get with it because those feel like you kill The two big cores and immediately finds one of them. There's the big job Gone again. I'm telling you like Saberlight axe is just it's his best hero and it's it's for me. It's showing Just looks so comfortable. Always plays aggressive Getting a bit scary now this early game for time dropping what what's the the reaction do you think is it They have to just get... It's always the same, right? They're fully passive, just farm it up, try and limit these amount of pick-offs that VP's getting against you. Yeah, I think for time that the name of the game tends to be pretty similar, right? Efficiency war, back up maximizing you do, but you can't take fights on certain instances, right? They still will be holding ravage, and if they can't get the combination with the invoker, they will take those fights. But if they're able to step back into creeps, Tundra will never, not just hit those creeps, so. I don't think VP's gonna really, you know, stop pressuring them. I do believe that they're just gonna continue to look for Pure. I mean, they're quite a lot now. Now this is coming. Yeah, he, I think BZM also drew the line. Yeah. He must have caught wind of the fact that the smoke player was coming and they then hit the scan afterwards, so Pure will be able to avoid getting caught this time. But Pure literally just went up there. He just got there and has to run completely across the map. I mean, his farm, it's quite slow this game on the Moerza. Still not even having Maelstrom finished up 15 minutes in. One of the slowest maelstroms that I've seen from where to... It's done a good, very good job of addressing him. Tamato, he is rushing the BKB, which I do love to see. We've seen some people try to stall it out, and it ends up being pretty problematic. He's not home to this game. 33, going for a bit of a different build on the diary. as a ULF. Looks like he was looking to try and get some sort of angle for the setup. But I may just die again. He's struggling. So we see 33 Pivots is built going for the ULF versus the Axe wanting to protect his course. So I go into the way versus the Ulfrey course, right? Versus the Axe, the Windranger. And versus the Ember, definitely has merits in order to protect himself. I'm gonna be too far off the BKB, I'll give him a solid answer, but I'm still the chance to play that Tundra wanna hit him with when he goes for the blink calls. Yeah, he's the strongest on the map at the moment. This blademail can do quite a lot of work versus, I mean not only just the Muerto, right, versus the Invoker as well. If you just run along the meteor, you eat a cat from Sunstrike as well. This blademail can catch you just kill BZML. Auri trying to play around this vision. Maybe they can get the setup on a stapler. There's the Hex, he'll drop the ward. Box is gonna be there though. Get some out to the side. Ravage comes in, Sunstrike's there, they burst through him. And would definitely be able to protect the Cleaner Barbed. Arbent would try and Remnant away. Tornado catches it onto Wards Arbent into the ULZ. And they're in position around the Remnant, even if he does get the chance to jump high. We'll place another though. Good dodge there off to the side. But Auri, he's there ready and waiting with the shackles. They're going to be able to bring down R-Pad as well as that. All kind of fell apart there. Obviously, Saberlight was farming the ancients. They didn't look to check the clear pride. There was full vision set up by Tundra in that area. And a perfect team's P-Rig, 33. That's the instances when you can show up to these fights. You have three format rapids, kind of perfectly connecting the leading Saberlight before he gets anything off. Picture perfect fight from Tundra. Strong team fight from them. Saberlight can't be the first one gone on. LSD just caught farming under the ward, on the cliff there from Tundra. 33, easy ravage and good focus there from BZM to just drop everything onto Saber like get this axe out of the fight first. Mpura gets two of the, at least one of the kills plus the courier towards the end of things, so it does get enabled nicely at the end of all things there. Maybe still do have to give respect to that ravage. Oh, he's going to be something very threatening especially now, that the Aghanims has also finished up for BZM, so Cataclysm, plus Ravage is not the ready. They stable like, has to be just a bit more careful, Curaus, that he's going to be happy after having a bit of a tough time. It was such a beautiful Ravage. Are they going to look to play and take advantage of the cooldown? 40 seconds? No Bravage. That's a little bit of time. Can they look for something? It's still hard to kill him if they do find him. Need to have... pretty much, yeah. Tomato has to be there. To have vision of bottom, do believe they saw BZM and white one in the area if they want to look for a play. Tomato, alright. Come over there, X-Bub. It was a bit of a VVP, they were set up, I'm ready to react, they punished Yari. They can catch 33 as well. Focus fire. He has BKB on this one Ranger. And I'm alert, they'll drop down the wheel, they've got the control. The tree's got a fit of that damage block to slow it down a little more, but won't be able to stop the dump. Coming in from Savorite. An instant movement, so really looking to take advantage of these cooldowns. BP. Confirm this pressure, Tamato did not use the VKV. But Tundra will disengage. And now they're hunting for themselves, so Savorite... will be able to disengage. I'm clicking them now. On the bottom line, VP. Can they look to set up for, I mean they don't really have the greatest torment in the lineup. They kind of have to do it as a, I mean, four heroes at the least. dangerous versus the ravage plus the cataclysm at times very close to having his blink rushing it right just brown boots into blink quite poor on him going through the portal chase down BGM here through the jungle 33's turned up my answer is to settle for white one instead but indeed they just respect the fact that pure and 33 are around so they It won't chase further. Not wanting to walk, as you say, into another ravage. At least make sure if they do get hit by a ravage, it's not a four-man ravage, right? They'll have, like, a bed tank and a one-of-the-heroes tank, and they cannot have multiple heroes get caught inside of that one there. Tundra? Blink is done? Ari and Whitemon can go for these solo type of plays. Especially if VZM's around, they can go for it quite easily, but even without them, just with the Cataclysm. They do find the Shackle play. Most of these heroes can still just die hundreds of zero. Tomorrow, they know exactly where he is. No BKB, play aside. You're not thinking about turning, but the Shackle doesn't latch. Has to be careful with that as well. Two has topped. Quick rotations, paper light. Oh, they're gonna get the stat up here with the punch from Whitemon! That's a big kill! BZM getting the last touch there onto him, taking him out! Very quick movement, showing bottom, immediately teeping top when Pure gets the connection with the dead shot. BKB is finished off for Saberlight when he respawns. Tundra, threatening kills without having to use the ravage as well, too. VP needs to start getting things to coordinate a little bit better together, Ari. It's their Cataclysm, it's just a casual stun strike, it's enough. It's a lot of... I'm gonna be able to stop Ari if I'm getting the wisdom. We'll be able to stop him from getting out. Double wisdom, Sir Tundra. And they're gonna get the Tormentor potentially too here, it looks like. They're getting quite a bit now. Yep, they're outback-growing VP at the moment here, moments here and they haven't had to use the Ravage or the Cataclysm also for the fight so that threat is there constantly on top of VP. They do have the double BKBs at the least, but Abed, he has fallen very far behind in this game in terms of that worth. He's going for the mage Slayer build so at least not that, but he's dead if he gets caught in the Ravage. Just literally dead. That's just something that we have seen quite a few times with the Ember. Now obviously Abed had an excellent game earlier today, but overall this hero has struggled. Pick up a regen rune. I keep seeing fishes all over the place, by the way. There's like five fishes that he hasn't picked up. So maybe he'll go and pick these, cause there's two right on top of his outpost. There we go. Stabilized. I'm just gonna get caught by the hikes. What a gush. No one's to be able to damage quite yet. 33 looking at one. Big call! I'm just gonna have to get the call onto the turn of the monster pure. Dunstin takes him down. With a punch on to Stabilized, head through the BKB. They'll try and run for the rabbit. Oh, Saberlight's just able to outrun it. But the stun connection is there onto our bed. Tomorrow? He wants to try and fight back into this. He's going to come in with a BKB. He'll go for the Tusk kill first. He has to be careful. He has to start running. Saberlight, he's not going to get the chance to get up with a cold snap in the NP upon him. Dust again. Saberlight trying to hold back the tie. Where's the Phoenix? OK, there he is. Now he's in with the shackles onto Saberlight. Stabilite, he'll get taken up by the tornado, Ari will not escape! Camfly and Tamar to get anything else in return. 33, bit too much of a beefy target to go for. I was- I was- I feel like I haven't seen Fly have this game. But I was like, where's this Phoenix? Because the whole team is fighting for it feels like 60 seconds or so, and I wasn't seeing Phoenix when they were playing there, so... On launch fight, Batonja ends up getting some pretty big cleanup kills. Up to a 3K leap, but sure, gets caught in the call. I mean, Stabilite is fighting these angles. But the BZM invoker's show. I hate it, it's happening. Yeah, he nades hero. And he's always thought of that dream situation when you have a tide. I'm still in a 33 very much. I mean, trying to wait for that opportune moment to use the ravaging that last fight. Obviously as it was said, but I didn't manage to outrun it at the end. It was so cool. He was literally running along the tentacles. It was actually insane. Alright, two fish also in the mid lane. The 33 does need to go pick up again. Continuous to leave them. he sees them they're gonna smoke okay so fly I want to see him getting more involved at this egg okay I've literally not seen it so it's not the easiest of course versus them where it's up but it does have the shard for the sun ray plays here we go save a lot it's gonna find one way gets to jump burning be able to burn him pretty low enough to kill him I think he's gonna be fine I think he disjointed the fire spirit with the snowball I I think he actually got out of it there. I think the fire spirit hits him and he's on him, he dies there, so... Yeah, he's out! What second? Does there space to maybe looking towards the Rose Shat? They should have this. Maybe a Sun Strike to steal. Can this come? Maybe a Gush or two to just slow them down a little bit here. They have to hurry up. Five seconds. They should have it. Sun Strike? Ooh! It's a close effort. They nearly got the kill still, but as it was, VP though, get the finishing blow to Roche, get the Aegis on Tomato. That was a heads-up call, right, because Roche was going to start shifting very, very soon, so they are able to commit, finish it off in time. Mage Flayer finished for Abipus, who said he is falling behind quite drastically. His last hits especially, 130, not be able to find that much farm. And he's scared to farm really, right? If he shows in a lane, he can just get caught very easily and die. Blink finished up for Whitemon and for Ari, so it's the double catches on these side lanes. The catch is only going to get great, so obviously Tide has 30 trees, he's got the shard, he's also working on that blink dagger next, so when they have that sort of triple blink play, it's going to be pretty nasty. Housegream has ways to protect versus it, but he has to be very careful with his positioning as this ringmaster. White Mott's been waiting for him bottom for so long they might just dive the tower for him. Maybe for the bigger play they're looking for something. Is there a light? Cool. I'm gonna have to get away with the snowball. So if I'm was trapping Hellscream I'm a tally but he's able to get out with the box So we'll just be Weimond to fool that and they can't finish off Hellscream Drop the cataclysm on top of the shackles but not quite enough They were I mean they were lingering this area looking for this kill for what felt like a full minute or so Doesn't end up working VP. They were prepared for it without scream. All right. Let's see if you can get some sort of setup top Maybe the case and in fact TPs are coming in from VP and bring Hellscream over there is no cataclysm for some time Not bad. It's gonna force out the ult. Saberlight is closing in. Doesn't have to slow with the dagger, but it looks like it's a bit too far for them to try and chase into. They don't quite have the full information. Let's continue to avoid 33. I think this tide hunter is still a bit of an issue for you to deal with. He also does not go blink. He goes for the consecrated wrap, so he's just looking to survive. He will survive in a lot of these fights just walking through. Unless he's focus fired. Tomato. Small crit. His damage is high. Heading over for him. The duo of four heroes kind of surrounding this tier two. So a little bit of a scary point at the map for Tomato. Has the Aegis, so... See how 4-4 they do want to push. He's the Forged Spirit with the Lackardy, so he's like, hey, they're down here. I'm going to play behind you. Tomato. Oh, tumble. Scary position for Pierre to be in there. I love tumble, it's a story sometimes. Doesn't have a force staff. He looks in a dangerous position, but then just whoop. Getting a little bit of safety here through these moments whilst they have the Aegis still not really able to keep up with the level of farm that Tundra's getting out of the map. Not many teams do, right? This is the team of efficiency. Big concern, I mean Stabilite's falling behind, that's pretty okay, right? Because he's the hunter, he's looking right, it's the concern really is that Abed, because he's in trouble. Still not having the BKB, he can just die from literally any disable. They are looking. Tundra. My god, op-ed. Incredibly dangerous position. If you catch me one minute, it does look like it would just be fly. Ari is gonna go for it. any big spell commit besides those certain ones and surround the tier 2 should be able to get some damage here I bet does have VKB finished Yeah, he's 6,000 behind his counterpart. Yeah, and for all the sort of strong stuff to save a light had he's pulling behind now in the acts as well. Yeah We don't want the two of them to fall behind like this Auto 30 seconds left on this ages CPCM Not quite able to force out the BKB from our bed. So that has the remnant ready That doesn't have a TP to go back to his team though. So he's gonna have to walk all the way back if he wants to rejoin Tomorrow we'll be able to finish off those serpent wards gets a fair bit of extra farm and Aegis is gonna get reclaimed has his fatalist It's tough though. They didn't really get to achieve too much during these moments with the Aegis No, and now you're falling further behind Yeah, now you're into this blink-rabbit with Cataclysm, the 33 can't find the angles Doesn't have to rely on the supports to go for those big plays to land it. Let's look at... look pretty difficult. It is. It's, as we were saying, sort of the start, but when you run this sort of draft of the WimRanger Carry It's hard to sort of have faith in the WimRanger Carry when it's kind of like a 1v5 situation The next few flights don't go too great, but say of the like, in our bed There just might be a little too much weight resting on Tomatoes shoulders when he's on a WimRanger Let's just see what he can do. If he can delete BZM with the first Focus Fire, right? That can set up a pretty decent success for the fights because then it's just where it's at versus acts and all these other things. It's all going to be up to initiation but it's not easier at this time. It feels, you know, the scaling just feels hard. The nature of it. Two carries, right? You know, windranger. You're probably going to kill one hero. Problem is, the Muerta is probably going to kill every hero. Thanks for being one of the ravaged Cataclysm, right? If you kill one, your whole team might be dead and you might be like, oh, I'm alone. So definitely difficult for Tamato. Possible, but difficult. Yeah. You know, if a WimRanger's going to do it, it would be this one. You know, he's massively far on top of the net worth, you know, he's got everything that he could hope for at least on an individual level as this WimRanger. Oh my God. Saberlight cannot get caught with this gem right now. Cataclysm to scout. Dave really wants him. How easily can they close the gap, though? Blink on Ari with Lens, they're gonna tornado. Oh, they're gonna be able to stop him from getting through the Twin Gate. They even get their hands on a Hellscream as well. They'll have to go for the BKB. BLEEP! Punches now! White Monsim to put a stop to it! The game! Getting nastier and nastier here for VP. And they lose their gem. They've lost... Yeah, they've lost all control. It's Pomoto versus the world truly. That's just great identification, Tundra. Finding the catch. Finding the catch, you're never saved with BKB TP out. Not versus this Tusk. Not. Tusk versus Axe, always is gonna have to wait to counter him as well too, even if he does get the calls later on until pure... And here, MKB. Will be the full answer, but of course for Tommato as well. Alright Tommato, you gotta go super saying this game. He really does. If he manages to take on the win here, Tommato, This will be quite the performance. We've seen it, some people do it on heroes like Kaz in particular, but yeah, like this does feel quite a level. More difficult, especially with all three cores just farming so well on Tundra. This Tiderner just continues to also be quite a beast. Gonna have a Wind Waker to potentially have for the save versus the axe. Aeon Disk is already on one of the cores. They kinda have ways to protect each other versus anybody who gets caught inside of that axe. Maybe when he gets to 25 though. That's sort of the talent that allows you to win ranger to kill more than one hero. Yeah, pretty much, I mean, he is three of us away. Then he's going to be ready to cap. So we haven't been able to see right from fly, I do want to say, like this egg, we haven't been able to see him really use it. Maybe he just feels threatened because it will just maybe die. They've got to get that combo right. They can get a big call from Saber like, they're going to try and go at the time. He is the tankiest target. Yeah, they're not gonna be able to do much there. The 33 is like, uh-oh. What just hit me, nothing. And I'm like, yeah, we'll get the egg off. Hey, that was weird. What's happening? I was gonna put the BKB. Why is that tundra coming out of there? What the hell was that? I think it's definitely not. It's definitely blasted, yeah. What the, my favorite stuff I've ever put in. Didn't do anything. No, but it did look kind of funny, yeah. It was the definite blast, right? Yeah, it made me lose him. But the egg was when he got the egg off, so... Where his hero actually was, was not in the egg. I've never seen this interaction and I've played like so what was the five thousand invoker games look at this He gets pushed with the forest, but I did not I see look I think you're right I don't think it was necessary to definitely was I think was the force house I've never seen that before it was not great coming out of the floor I mean nobody dies, but it looks funny Yeah, is there any cool tech that you could do with that probably not probably not Tundra, firm grasp of this one now, having the gem as well, now a Wind Waker, 33, has no threat onto him. Alright, Stabilite and Tamato, right? If you can get a big call in the shackles, they have to have some crazy type of combos coming in in comparison. Tundra, it's just much easier to execute. They can just blink, ravage Kata, and it causes this panic, and then Kira can pick you to this target. I mean, it's just the composition of Tundra's lineup right there's like, who's ever gonna be standing next to each other? Not, they're not really right, you know, the Moetra standing anywhere near the invoker, neither of those are standing anywhere near to the tide. The Tusk, he's waiting in the tree to blink in and coming in the counterplay. Same for the Charmin, like these heroes just don't really stand on top of each other, so finding more than a one-man call... Very true. It's very difficult I bet might have to just honestly be the full sacrifice be like, okay I'm gonna go and force heroes to go on and beat me Yeah, you can get the call so that the winter agent coming and get some crazy cleanup because they need something crazy Let's see Time to continue to play very careful And that's pretty much the best situation considering that you're never really gonna get a multi-man call You probably just got to get the blink call with the blade man on to the Atlanta Mm-hmm with to be KB but you can't get yours. You have to have the toss control That's true so much someone's gonna be on the toss That's not a tomato's gonna be getting the shackle and the focus for an invoke and taking Bzm out execution is is hard for sure He'd be all our beds. He's hot Look at easy kill She said the execution is that much easier for a turn to the fire these type of kills and yet Bzm He's like don't pick me stop again. Pick me up over here. I don't say he's loving the invoker Push them on the high ground. Banner placed at a very, I mean it's a smart position because look, it keeps the catapult alive, but it's a place where they can't actually hit it as the wind ranger. Sometimes you see these banners placed a little too far forward. This is gonna maintain the pressure for quite some time. Yeah, because even though the creeps die, the catapult continues. Stay alive. Whoa! The corebird there, as you say, why one's in with the counter play, gets him off the molotov, so I'm pure as fine. Stabilized. He's going to try and jump again in a second. Four seconds. Nice seeing them. They get the dead shot in the gold snap once. They're in the Hacks. Box will come out. He's almost his daddy. The BKB will be popped by Stabilized. He's gone. He'll buy back immediately. Sure, it is a bit deep. They punish. So many ways to bail him out. My goodness. My goodness, Sabley just gets the leader too. So much bell damage. He pops the BKB at the tail end of it, but just still dies. Sabley, he tried for the lead, but the tornado was there! Perfect timing. He jumps into a tornado! He bought back for this, the box will save him for now! They'll tell us it's over towards Tomato, they've got the chain locked down with the ravage! That's Tomato gone! They'll buy back! Sabley! And he dove by 33, Amp-Cure who's got the pistol bell back online. Saberle out for good, dead for 90. Age is still for two minutes as well, Pure. Yeah, 33 has been in. Insane, mysterious in particular, his like in the last game, this one, his hide. It's exactly what they needed. He's that rock. That rabbit city ladder on the triangle set the tempo for this. He's in again, Ahri. He's gonna get the Hex onto Ahri, but Tomato's gonna try and focus the shaman at least. Ahri will die, but he has to go pretty deep for this one. The box will bail him out. Tomato! If he can get away from this, then the definite glass clips on towards him. The heal for the Stunt Ray, not enough to save him. Tomato's dead for two minutes. The Egg will be successful. But three versus five, they cannot hold. As the tier four is exposed, they will at least bring down the Moe to once. It's a once, but the windrunch is dead back to back. It's only our bed and hell screen left for the defense. The base. It cleaned up. Pure ready to start just looking to close the game up onto the tier fours. 20 seconds until Stabilites up and VP then might have a chance of prolonging the game. A ton you're gonna do their best to try and close it up before. literally getting a little low Five seconds Might just to get to fight one more fight here Ancient six bows like it's got a crazy call off He's gonna get the jump once a pure but straight away white ones able to pull pure back to safety and Continue the push to close this one up the same way has to have back to the fountain the ancient exposed Arbent tries to jump the backline but the control is there he's out of the game. Staplelight will get the two-man call this time of the BKB but he just dies through it. They're running out of lives to throw them. This game's over. Gigi's called. Tundra take the series two to one and not VP out of dream. This is just the drafts that Tundra they do know how to play very well. If they are able to slow pace the game down if they are able to set B's young for success in the early game. Yeah, we've seen these time and time again when he plays it with this hide hunter to back him up 1509 right he had a literal perfect performance on this invoker great setup across the board Self ones there for VP and for tomorrow, you know, I feel like game two and game three his farm was fantastic Yeah, but he was just not set up on the heroes to carry this you know Luna last game seem kind of rough This game the win ranger and I mean you were not big believers in this heroes and carry in In games like this, sure everything was falling apart that much, but Tamati got so much farm. It's just what can he do with this hero even when he's this farmed? It's a hard game to carry. They fell apart pretty quick in this one, right? The first 15 minutes of seeing some moves happen, but that literally that fight around the triangle, that's where like everything just crumbled completely. They weren't able to find much pickups at all. Yep, overall Tundra looking much more coordinated and together in this last game in particular. VP, now this one left something to be desired. Yeah, BZM versus L8 is making a statement on his Invoker once again. Another day, another win for the BZM Invoker, 15-09 in this game free. Tundra, they'll be moving on, two to one to them today. Yeah, I hate to say it, and you tried three games in a row. I'd worked for one game, but trying to make sure that Saber-Lite was fired up, I mean, he was fired up, but the rest of the team wasn't enough fired up. Yeah, it didn't come together. It did not. Unfortunately. I feel like, I think gamecoyne will come in on the drafting, I think they needed the invo and the hood rig out of this game. And unfortunately just the invo was enough, the VZM had an insane showing I think in this game. Like, everything in the mid game was just him, I feel like. I mean you can tell, I would be a highlight of this game. It was better than the last game, and the last game he had a pretty damn big impact. you if it's that miracle instead of BGM there would be run-of-the-woods about this performance. Yeah, I mean, maybe they already are. This game is really unfortunate because I think, I don't actually think VP is that much worse than Tundra right now. I think Tundra got the one strat that they will always beat VP with. I don't think VP can ever beat their Invoker strat. And I think all they needed to do to make this a really close third game was fixed the opener very slightly in Voker's band and they steal Hoodlink. I think they're in such a good position like I don't even I don't know. I think they might be favored, but that one thing like I think Tundra is kind of cap right now. I don't like they won this series, but I think they went off their one cheese. They always fall back on winter is coming. Shiver, have you seen Game of Thrones? Yeah, because in Game of Thrones, there's an army of the undead and the whole show they're coming and he's he's saying, Yeah, I'm thinking it's like now. It's May right now. So have you been saying this since season 27? No, that was just a little bit and then I stopped saying it and now I'm starting saying it. But that's the thing. Did you actually stop though? Yeah. In Game of Thrones, they kind of forget about it and there's always ladies in Birmingham. There's these different thrones fighting. Yeah, I didn't see the show. Yeah, tell me about it. Yeah, there's like these different thrones and houses. They're fighting. 20 years late to the port. Everyone's ignoring that there's this fun. I see. And he thinks that the army is basically coming for Tundra but I just think they play a few tournaments with stand-ins and you know these guys are these guys are kind of powering up. I'm really feeling it. Maybe now 65%. Whitemon said there's 60 to 50. I will ask when we get them on the interview. 65%. I will ask what percentage they're at and I'll tell them that you said Jon Snow that Winter is coming. He's the one guy that hasn't seen Game of Thrones so he's probably really confused. I don't think he's confused about that. You're the king of the realm? That means my opinion is right. That's how Kings works. Overall though, we said that this game 3 was very much... Whoa. Anything Tundra feels, they watch the panel, they want to see like, oh, we want to get glazed. We want the panel to talk about how great we are. And then this is just happening. We can continue gazing them. That's totally fine, but I also, I do want to highlight Virtus.Pro a little bit because we... And that the drafts saying like oh this is gonna be the true test like can they find their comfort heroes and You know, can they find the stability to face tundra comfort on both sides? And I think the comfort on vp even if they lost the comfort was so there They were close. They if it wasn't for vzl invoker, they would have l saberlito was was definitely cooking Yeah, yeah, like if tundra like didn't have any of the heroes they had and they didn't play the game I think close is the worst word that VP wants to hear because they're always close them and game religion and enigma and all these random tier 2 teams they're close because they aren't good enough that's the real thing is they aren't there yet but would you not say that they're closer now than that they were a month ago yes but the thing is next tournament to make it 15th instead of 12th you know like there's always like the one tournament they do slightly I just want to do slightly worse to me. It's just a natural deviation of things. I don't think you're closer That's the whole point. Yeah, you still lose. You're not close like if you're in this position I need don't break like you need to take advantage of these They are now what top gold Speaking of top Top players top players top carries. Oh god damn it Dobre Vichir, let's each go. Hello Hello? Hello? How are you? How are you feeling after a nice clean victory from the boys? Why is it that clean victory is lost on the map? You don't think it was a clean victory? I wouldn't say so if you drop a map it's not clean right? So it was a clean victory. So one of your teammates said you guys are at like 60% power. I think it was Ari. I'm curious, after this series, you know, like you said, it went 2-1. Do you feel you're above 60% power or still about 60%? I thought I was talking nonsense sometimes, that's true, but I think we are growing. We are evolving as a team during this tournament because our start was really rough. But you know, we are looking forward to play some more games and try to learn, try to remember what we forgot during our break and to our break was long enough to start again. Okay, that makes sense. So in the previous draft, we saw the where to pick into acts. And we had some theories on why you did that because maybe we thought you're gonna go for the vein Maybe you thought they were gonna pick it could you explain to me why you picked the Muerta in that position because it's usually pretty hard against axe, right? In the last game, yeah in the last game I mean it just Doesn't really matter to leave this box here It's not that much of a deal and we just had to either buy it or pick it because it didn't also really want to play with smart and in the end you know it was it was rough for me and the lane but I think it's just my bad it's like we missed a couple of sound strikes also right so it was not that good for them. What do you think about like block picking in general, like taking something just so they don't get it? Because we've been kind of talking about this concept on the panel, like do teams actually pick something so that way the enemies don't get it. How good do you think that is? I mean it's pretty weird to stop playing your comfort heroes, right? Your best heroes tries to snitch someone from someone. And in my opinion it's not good. Some people, some employers can do it and they're good on it, but usually it ends up being like an absolute disaster. Okay, you agree with the panel then. I wanted to ask you about NecroCarry, this NecroCarry trend that's happening right now. Do you think that this is good? Why is it good, if it is? And I guess because he's an 8, right, an 8 kind of fucked up, they buffed it too much, it's really strong on every level, skills to level 30 and stuff, they just made some mistakes with numbers I guess, and that's why heroes are strong. Too much HP regen, too much, you know, effective HP pull. Thanks. Just a strong hero, we're all. Well that's good, I love the hero, I find it very fun. uh... we got some questions from the stand here for you hey what's up here i was wondering if you could what's up broski i was wondering if you could uh... do me a favor and i want you to do an ari impression of ari saying bottle of water well how do you make me do that? you know i'm still learning yeah just try it, it'll be fine I'm not Indian, don't singlish bullshit, say no, no, no, not yet. You can't do it? I mean, I can do it just for you, because, you know, I love you. Yeah, I see it. Like a straight man can laugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Like a brother. From another brother. Exactly. Sure. A bottle of water. Thanks, dude. I appreciate it, brother. I appreciate it. No, it was good, it was good. I like it. It was good. Thank you. I appreciate it. I got I got one more question. Are you guys blue camping in Belgrade right now? Where are you? Don't you mean the accurate? Yeah, yeah, yeah, great. Yeah here for For like two weeks already, right? We played like our first tournament Oh, it was it was great and all the two games and we out so we had to play some more screams So I'm remember I think I remember you're from Moscow, right? The food there is very good How do you find the food in Belgrade? I mean, I do live in Moscow, but I'm not from Moscow. I'm from Vladivostok. It's a lot far, it's far east. So, to find the food, of course, Moscow food is the greatest. Like, you can't argue about it. To find some familiar, similar in Belgrade, we had our own expert, Mr. Nethershapira, he fell, so he likes to eat, he likes to eat good food, and he usually is the guy who finds some place and he says, let's go, let's go to eat some good food, and we test it out, we found some cool places, and we eating good, we eating good today, right, we won. The 8 and 8 has one more question, he's asking, sorry, sorry, you brought it off, Does Nara force you guys to eat Thai food every day or was that only on the food? This guy is an Asian food enjoyer for sure. It doesn't matter if he is Chinese or Thai. He just eats it. He doesn't force anyone, but when you look at him and see how much he enjoys it, it kind of gets to you. But I mean at some point in this team I also was eating a lot of like this Asian food But I'm just kind of done with it to be honest. It was too much Usually you know it's an once in Singapore or China That's not good That's not good. It's too much Okay, thank you very much pure we appreciate the in-depth interview and I hope to see you here again brother Yes, he was configured in this one, he'll stay. Bye bye, he's a foodie, that's the most I've ever heard of talking, holy. You gotta ask him a lot of things, Jenkins. The Chinese food in Belgrade asked here. There's a huge Chinese population there, so you can get real authentic stuff. Faith Be honest, tell me he's always eating that there. And there's a chance that you get to talk to him very many times, because if they do make this lower bracket run, They play the most amount of matches possible and they've already of course played in the tiebreakers as well They're really they're really making sure they're getting their screen time here at Dream League season 29 But the first round of lower bracket is done for them They have to wait in their opponents at the last series of the day We have liquid versus extreme gaming But we are going to move forward to our second series of today Today, that is Betoom vs Vici Gaming 2 organizations that have never ever faced, ever in the history of Dota 2. This will be the first match to decide which team will come out on top, who will forever hold a grudge against the other. That's right, we're going to milk that story real hard. But let's find out who's gonna win after a break! Dream League Season 29 is brought to you by DHL and CHECKS. Welcome back everyone! We are getting ready for a more elimination series. We've got Bet Boom Team going up against Vici Gaming, where both these teams are still crying for an opportunity. Well, not entirely. Vici Gaming is an opportunity to get more points. Bet Boom Team, I believe they're already secured for EWC, but there's a lot of pride on the line. Specifically the pride that you take in your pick priorities. Kazoo, tell me about this. That's damn right Neil, because I had a look at their Dota buff and when you look at this it's not usually this big of a you know difference in terms of how often you take first pick and how often you take second pick. So we have a graphic because these numbers is something that like I just said you have to look at. So both teams you can tell that they kind of don't like first pick, right? You have two games and you hit you have eight games whereas VG they have played 14 games of second pick 14 out of 16 That's an insane number and if you look at Batboom as well, they have eight games in total But it's not just eight games in total. It's eleven of them in a row They started out their first eight games on first pick and since then haven't touched a single game on first pick after and After that I also wanted to look at what do these teams do when it comes to the gameplay So, you know, I took a little deep dive into VG gaming because this is a team with very very very good players So, we've got a clip of their early to mid game and also how they play and the type of movement that they do, because when you understand like how good this team is and the players that they have, there's a lot of cool things that happen. So what you can see here is that first of all, they're smoking to this Observer Ward, which is very good, this is where you want to go, but a lot of teams are like, hmm, when a smoke move doesn't work, is this smoke then just bad? And honestly, no, that's not the case, because what they still get to do is this ward over here, which still spotted the slaughter walking over to the mid lane. At the same time, what's important is how much info are you getting on the map. You see that the bottom lane is all the way pushed in, and their mid lane is getting all the way pushed in. And now pay attention to how all of the heroes move backwards, because they have no info on the map. Even here, you have Shiro, who drops the stand on the triangle, and he also walks back. Because it matters so much where the initial and first contact of the play happens. You can see how they're all dangling. Now, why on Nixie gets to TP in? Everyone else is keeping here's the Ember and they're nicely attacking from the side. They're getting to just like pincer them in this move because Liquid overstepped and overplayed. And it's a lot of these small things of like you understanding the map, where do you smoke, how are you using like the overall information of the game that you have. And you know to top it all off, you have a Haste Rune, they get the kill on the storm. And a lot of the plays also it's not just about what happens now, but imagine what happens to the map after you have a TB, you have an Ember, they die you get to hold map control suddenly a game from up on K lead goes into like a 5k lead with map control so Vici Gaming they're cooking. Appreciate the report Kessinaw come on down and join us at the table with BSJ and Effie because Effie we have not gotten that much of an opportunity to watch Vici Gaming on the mainstream they've been sequestered to the secondary streams but as Kessu says they are doing their own little cooking on elsewhere. They are you know we haven't enough pretty messed up because They're a really cool thing with really cool. We haven't been treated to such greatness Well, we will be today now, but I really did enjoy that presentation because when you think about teams like VG gaming and What they're playing last pick for it's actually inherently different than a team like that woman what they're playing last pick for right? Because with VG you're thinking about oh, they're gonna snap pick like some shero terror blades some shero PL Try to win the game off of that whereas for that boom like their last pick will give GPK either the most insane unwinnable lane possible for the enemy or it's going to be some cheese hero on Miro and It's just different to see two different approaches through their draft in terms of what the last pick is enabling I mean watching all that I think the coolest part about pro dota that I've learned talking to players talking to other panelists over The years is that every move is like too prompt like it's not be it's you weren't highlighting Yeah, they won the team fight. They got four kills But that wasn't why you don't even have to look at the team fight to understand how they wanted It was this entire lead-up to it. It was the information game. There's so much of what Dota is. And I remember, this was two EWCs ago, where I was like, I needed to do a segment for a game, and I wasn't sure what to do. And Kiz was like, watch this playback. And it was basically Team Spirit doing exactly what people showed, where they scouted out something. They knew a play was coming, read it. And so that was actually something I learned from you. So I took pleasure in learning it again today. I want to learn a little bit more about the pick priority thing, though, because once upon a time, Second pick was primarily determined by I guess the 24th pick if you get second pick Then I get the very last pick of the draft, but now it seems like Ace and ninth pick, which are the first picks of the first phase Equally have their importance and 18th pick, which is the last pick of the second phase has its importance So what do you find the most value with second pick is still the 24th pick? Is it responding to the first phase pick? Which part of it do you think that bad boom team abuses the most? I would still say it's the last pick overall, perhaps like over time it's gotten harder to abuse it just because teams have gotten better at like, you know, banning into picking. Also, real quick, we can see that we missed priority in the pick first. That's very interesting. That's very interesting. You know, just like going out of the norm, because like I showed before, the last 11 games, they only played second pick. But what's nice about second pick is that you get to respond more. Whereas when you play first pick and you're drafting first pick, it's more on you to like, you need to be confident because you're setting the tempo of the draft. You're laying out your cards and the enemy team has to respond to you Right So if you're happy doing that you'll be happy on first pick But if you want to be like more chill I'm gonna counter you I do this then second pick it seems a bit more easy and chill So it's like playing black and chess as opposed to doing white and being the opening pretty much and that covers my chest knowledge It also feels match up dependent Yeah, I can see some teams preferring so I can pick generally but versus certain teams when they have an idea About which first pick here They're going to take away from the enemy team that they can play equally as well Then it looks like a more appealing option. My theory about why that boom might have taken first pick today was that it's funny That you notice that because I noticed their last six games They played against a first pick pango like in all six of them and the first four that they won the opponent banned monkey king So like clearly there's there wasn't like enough data on that boom within the tournament to know like that's what they're gonna do So clearly there's like some scrim stuff behind the scenes But then yesterday against team spirit team spirit first picks pango gave them monkey king both games and then beat them Beat them both games So I think you know, maybe That boom likes to shake it up when things stop working because you said they did eight first picks in a row then eleven second picks So maybe we're back on the you know if they go past the series We're on the eight games in a row first pick and you never know Which a big shakeup would be letting lone druid slip through and then not picking it But that's what that boom team are going for instead. They ban out slaughter bat rider puck and tree protector Vici that took out the Kaz B semester in pango that boom select the clockwork and indeed give away a loan druid That's not interesting. It's a very strong I don't know the win rate of the hero at the moment. He is definitely very strong, but he is beatable There's a lot of offlaners that feel good into it still, you know, you're there's tight And the road also in my opinion one of the best heroes you lane well against the firestorm is good you get the map play later so I would be a bit surprised. I mean I guess they already put their one ban on Lycan so you know Vichy are saying we can play into the others this is the most important one for us to take out. They do. And I think they have a good support hero pool to play into a Lunderhead. Like when you want to play versus Lunderhead you need support that from the distance can set up for you and Beth will have been playing a lot of Bane and yes it's been their solution to Pango but having heroes like Bane and moving from a distance that can catch the bear out and then have the follow-up come in from your GPK hero, like a punk or a storm spirit, you have toys. It also may be a test to see how good Vici Gaming's loan drew it is because it has not been let through very many times in the tournament and you're right it is beatable. It's been let through 10 times and a 60% win rate, but Vici Gaming have yet to get their hands on it. For here, that's like absolutely first pick just slammed I mean, I guess in this game it was technically second-packs But for it to have a 60% win rate just by getting banned every game, you know for the rest of them That's that speaks to you huge about about how difficult it is to beat this hero You have to like craft a specific strategy What I like about underlord against loan is that the problem with the bear is the inconvenience of killing it They did like nerf that in the C patch where it has a longer cooldown on its respawn It gives more bounty when you kill it, but they don't pick underlord They go for another hero that can globally connect to these type of plays. You also want a hero, maybe Underlord's better at like ganking the bear. I don't think you ever want to use Donalty to like gank the bear, but Don is great at cleaning up the map with clearing waves from long range with Celestial Hammer. So I think that's the idea behind this pick, and they have decent initiation between the supports. Now they probably need that GPK fight starter hero to set up these like pseudo stuns on the supports. I don't think it's that bad to Donald the bear now like with the bear losing that level 10 talent That minus 24 seconds on the very good killing the bear is super high in fact. Yeah, maybe we might see it You might see it a few times. I'm wondering what their idea is they could be that or the defend ways they go in there So I just thought I was thinking that on a team but then have like a very scary potential puck for store So what do Veechie have in terms of the solution to that it's actually makes this happen. We thought 9 class absolutely pop-off on Nexus Assassin vs. Nisha's turn. So this is such a great free-emptive pick, so long as the support player is thriving in this game. And ZincQ is the type of player that you would expect to cause complete chaos on the Nexus Assassin. It's really, really cool. Like for all the reasons you mentioned, it's also I like it a lot against Dawn, right? You always know Dawn's going to play alone, he wants to ulti and you know, haha, I free farm, I press ult. And at the same time, Lone isn't played as a ball hero anymore, he's like a split push, kill the map type guy. Nix wants to have those heroes, he wants Storm, Spectre or even Lone to be there with a Shadowblade in the mid game, so I really like this pick. And JinQ, this guy is a magician, he's still a bit of a joker, I still think he's trying to get back into ultimate triumph form where he pops every game, but I've got faith in my boy, this guy. Yeah, I think it's Nyx is so high risk high reward where like you can see the Nyx player being like the most high impact hero in the first 10 minutes or level 2 at the minute time. Yeah, if I'm a carry player for Bebum if I'm carried to Tira, I'm like, I never want to show on lanes. Like I will die with virtually any amount of items versus Nyx, a bear, a doom. I'm thinking he needs to be like a hero that buys Manta like Luna or something like a terribly that just it gives them objective taking a hero to ball up around because with Dawnbreaker you want that but then you also like I was thinking they might go draw like as well draw clock is like such a scary lane but I guess the new draw build they're not new it's like kind of calling it back to Ag's rush it does allow you to play off map but it's like you do have to like with these manta heroes you can be 5,000 units away from creep wave that you're clearing with draw you are you know you're sitting in the trees you're being a ninja about it, but I'm concerned for his survivability and safety on the side of Kiritich. It's like once they group up, I think they're really strong. Drow's great at this, but it's that map play that I'm concerned about. Yeah, I agreed with your initial take. I was also thinking there were like three heroes in mind like TB, Naga, and Drow, but less though, but I can see it against like the radiant heroes. You're laning first of all against Double Melee. Clock is probably the guy you're going with, so your lane is very strong. Very strong. And so the axe build is very good but it's also not the only build. I know that Yatoro played it yesterday, he went Falcon Blade, Lance, Manta and he went Ag's I think like 4th or 5th item. So he went like more mobility, you know like with some Yasha, Musubi, some Shadowblade, which I think could help a lot this game but he also has a lot of people that will like back him up. You know, Dawn, old clock so I can definitely see this and we are going to talk about the mid picks earlier. Mid, range, last pick you know with like a dawn, back you up and the drought aura is quite nice. That's true, a lot of enabling. I feel like now these ranged picks from mid may be a little bit scarier just because the doom factor exists. I think Vici had a really cool approach to solving this 18 pick from Bat Boom because not only do they take the nicks pretty amptively for something like a storm spirit, but they also set up for their own doom by having nicks cover for a potential Medusa counter pick. So it was a really cool take, but I also think that draw ranger is an interesting solution to this take, because even though she can get run up, Drow vs. Dumble nearly should go very well, and then she should have the damage to consistently kill the bear. Yeah, my eyes are on heritage this game because I'm telling you, there's just some lineups where the first thing I think of is I don't want to be a carry in this game. Like, you're against some Lion and Voker, Shadow Shaman and Voker combo, you're against Nix, Doom, Shadow Blade Bear, like, you're the one they're hunting for. I think it's also on Miro because you're either gonna be hunting Drow in like the 15 to 25 minute mark while he's farming up or you're gonna be hunting the Dawn when the rest of the team's running is 4 and Miro's gonna have to be on point not dying on the map because he's also probably gonna have to BKBE preemptively to enter fights or be very careful about when he use it because the next care base canceling Donalty is probably the second best counter to silencer to make it so Dawn cannot properly like enter fights the way she wants to. It's not an easy game to beat Dawn for now you rely a lot on how your team sets you up, like maybe they can find the nicks, it's like the clock or someone else gets initiated on, so the carapace is already used. I'm also looking at overall like GPK's fool, because we mentioned it wasn't super easy, but they'll still go for the storm, which I think is fine. Like it's not super easy to pick some heroes, like if you're looking at melees, there's like monkey, but it's still blind, there's quap in the pool, so overall I think it just fits very well. We saw the Dawn Storm combo twice yesterday. I think it was from Aurora, and they popped off in both games. Sure, they were up against a slightly easier to play draft, but I like it. It's quite brave though. Like by taking my Storm, you're saying that I'm going to play this better than your next is going to play your next. And then we saw Liquid do that yesterday versus Minecraft's next. I can go well for you, sure, when you get that BKV that hero can essentially be free food, but if he's popping up, he will not have a game on Storm Spirit. And now they have this DP who's going to have a strong lane versus Storm Spirit. He's going to be able to pressure his towers early on so that he can't recover in in the jungle. If your mid tower is gone early and Nyx is looking for you, maybe it's not the easiest game. Yeah, I mean, DP's gonna pressure the storm. I anticipate Lone will have a strong lane. Yesterday what we saw with the Nyx from 9 class, maybe it was 2 days ago, was the fact that he was like level 3 at 8 minutes, he had pretty much no game, and then he was a part of 2 kills where he basically got solo xp and almost insta level to 6, and the game just flipped on its head from there. I think the game is gonna heavily reliance in Q. I think Vici needs him to be kind of the threat. It's like the threat of the Vendetta. Yeah, I'd say it's the black belt. The threat of the Vendetta, rather than the Vendetta itself, because I think their group is really strong on Vici once they get there. Death Profanize, that early pressure. But I do think they're a bit greedy if Nix has no presence on the map. I love Xen. I just have to say, like this guy as a mid player, he's like the the fuck you mid-player. He's like, you're gonna have your matchup. He's like, I don't care. Yeah, he doesn't play for his game. He plays like to kind of ruin your game. I like the DP a lot. He's gonna like, I think he likes going like ATOS into silence. He's really good against the storm. With all that said, I think that both teams have a lot of cool stuff when it comes to like the gameplay. If Vici get to like open up the map early and their DP doesn't die, I think they're doing very well. But if Bedboom get to hold, I have a lot of faith in the Stral Storm and like the mid to late game. There is precedent for what you're describing because they did counter pick game-relations storm with a death profit. and she went Ato's by Aljasha and even a blink dagger just to make Storm's life hell. That's his MO. That's why I love this guy. Yeah, I mean, I like your pregame analysis of the first pick team. Like, just kind of laying their cards out there. I feel like that boom has that. Like, you have a draw clock. That's a really hard lane to lane into. You have Storm Dawn, really cool combo. You have Strong with Staling with the Storm plus Draw. I think this game... I really like when the pregame analysis plays out in the draft, what we see. Both these teams are picking what they like, the comfort. I'm looking forward to this. Well, let's see then if a fichi gaming or going to take it with their picks or if they'll be blinded by Don's life Let's get them to game number one Let's see how it goes then. Game one, best of three. The game is set on Bat-Broom here to get out of the draft and into the game, a lot of things for the game here to Unstepple Bat-Broom, a lot of couches, the dooms, and it's a captain with Death-Prophet ways to deal with Bat-Broom's drafts They set up for quite a good of a question Excuse me Gary, we are not Odie and Fawkes, get that off my screen What is that? Did you pay attention? I always did You also got all the unidentified, scrappy objects off our screen as Lago came and zapped himself up into space The OD fog is a pretty good thing to me, so we can cosplay. You have the same similar accent. I can be fogged. I can do a good fog. In case you didn't know this Gary. I'm not going to do a ski ski. He's going to get really bad if I do that. I like you honest too much. I can't make fun of him. Now the cost on the other hand. That guy. In case you didn't know Gary. If you cast the frost shield on the bear eight times in a row, you actually unlock a hidden level where the bear suddenly gets plus six attack damage, but... And that bear is unbearable. It's unbearable, Carrie. Okay, we're going to... Oh, we'll do a little damage here early. Please watch. I'm going to cast the messages immediately. That's why you become a caster. You have all the power. Very cool draft. I'm expecting to watch this game, too. Haven't really been able to see a lot of their games. They haven't gotten a lot of games to change games this event. I think this team is just super cool on paper. Results haven't been there. I think a lot of their games have been shaky. I feel like a lot of the games I see them up and then they lose it somehow. So I think they've looked better than the results indicate But they haven't been able to confer on those things. That's always a big part of the team, but They have had some pretty nice gameplay. I like a lot of their players. They have explosive players They have some throwbacks and classics. Sink Q, you are absolutely dead here. I think the Sink Q next will be an interesting fact in this game because I feel he always loses the game terribly on this hero, but then finds a way to crawl it back You go back to that KL Major where they beat Gaiman in that reverse WBO5. He played Nyx in the game that kind of turned that series. It was a big issue. So don't underrate his mid-game, even if the early game he ends up chain feeding here. And I'm curious what the stealth prof will do, for example. He's definitely very comfortable in this style of hero. And it can do a lot of work in the storm matchup. It used to be even more one-sided. I think Storm does better now, but he's clenching to zero. Silence is on the way. If you go to Atoast or Eul's or something, you can guarantee the chain silence, you get the bigger AOE on it now if you want that. I don't know if this is the game for it, but we'll see. There's been four static slide and with the old Peres-Python, it's just super bad. Just 100-zero matchup. You're still going to get the treatment up top. I'm trapped in the cogs. I kind of always expect like... Oh, hang on. What? Cheritich just decides to... First hit a cog instead. He respects it as a player. He's like, I can't clean. You're stupid. I'll kill him a second time now, he's going to be hunting me all game long. Then on the flip side we have this GPK storm, which is just absolutely terrifying to me. This is his best hero, especially because I think a lot of times that boom won him to be the true one. Kind of like how Liquid plays with Nisha. I think it's more similar. I don't think he won Kiritigian of the position where he has to 1v5 the game with some hyper carry. He can, but I think this team looks better when that burden is split more between the 1 and 2. It's more like 2 1 and a halfs, you know. If anything, maybe he shifted more towards GPK. And I think Storm is the perfect hero for that. GPK can actually just pop off on this, he has the Dawnbreaker back up, he has some solid supports to skirmish with. And then you always get some extra agi from the Drow, so... I like both drafts here. They both have a lot of firepower to play with, should be a nice little game. Thanks, good thing about that mid-game is clockwork and hoodwink being very good scouting heroes for the storm. You can set up with hoodwink playing from fog in the trees. I have someone out for me to go back to the rocket fly scene, see anything's coming. It's not the easiest game for Miro, though, against the next assassin. We do look at Shinkyu again as this hero that can either track back into the jungle when Dawn is doing that farm, split the map, and try and play with Fuller Guardian globally. He can go hunting potentially with this DP or Doom, and also that ability to find the Draranger, who likes to sit in jungle as well. It's also Carapace on the Solar Guardian. You're just playing with the team in Viz. You have to think about that here if you're Miro. Your ability to join the fights are not guaranteed against the next year. At least until later on you get some I-DOS, so you can always go for that play. Though that play can be a little difficult depending on how you're trying to play the map. The one hero I'm a little concerned for here is Faith Beon on the Doom. Yeah, it just seems a little out of place. It doesn't strike me as the highest energy hero with the rest of their lineup because they have DP and Lone Druid who these heroes don't really need a frontliner. There's no clear target, yeah, if you do storm, you should be happy, but this is not the easiest hero to do, especially in this game. Trowel's a bad matchup than Dawn, kind of a bad matchup, like, I feel it's just like, okay, there's a doombles here, but that is the one hero to me that I just, it sticks out a bit. Especially when your county's alone driven, because he's going to be AFK for 20 minutes, or exactly. You won't hear it a playthrough, it's pretty greedy, in a way. There's two sides to it, there's the required log goal next to me. TP back in from the storm. JPK definitely getting abused in his mid lane in terms of the regen. He's also leveled behind. He forced the base. So rough start for him. This lane matchup is going XM's way. He's going to have a fast XO here. Perhaps BG can find a way to use it early on in this game would be really nice. It's gonna take days into bare damage. Mero. I'm tanking up to turn and even if someone's lying here with me coming in to help, Shiro does get that kill first. It's just a very tough thing to skirmish it to. The Lich gets multiple rounds of spells off. Lone Druid Lich, classic lane. Slow down, chase him down, fresh heal the bear. I'm gonna have to commit the Lone Druid hero just in a little summon forward. Shrek's Peak going into Chirro, exactly what DGDN would like to see because now they can leave him so low a bit easier and just go play around the Death Prophet XO already online, already used. XM wasting no time putting this on cooldown, he's just gonna start playing it at the tower and say, what are you gonna do about it? Bring me a level 5 Storm Spirit here. The full match six even. Beppin with the ones who brought both their support in to try and do something. He was forced to grab the Arcane Room at least. Can't tell me he forces the hand. Well, there's just no defending this tier one tower So we're gonna get it for free Classic Chinese lineup right here taking me back to like the super days From the chase bar though, Kassar will be cutting him off in the past and Kuretich Threat-arranged and lay on it to him Kogsburg's got a high ground though It's a little awkward now I was about to say it was a free kill Well, I think he was going for that Because there's no way out of there unless he gets bumped up to cliff I feel like Big Bell is playing for us You're against a pango you do the same thing? Exactly, yeah I think that's why I had a smile on my face, it's like, thank you, bail me out. Clever! Not a very cheeky play. Sweet, you're intelligent. And now this team, Beppum, show a couple of heroes out on the map! And they can play aggressively onto Miro. Liger steps forward. And I'm trying to get right to farming. Harp bringing the Nyx down here, keeps you looking for the Wisdom Shrine contest, and with the Death Prophet, so this is pretty nasty. If Beppum get caught off guard here, they can feed some heroes and lose the shrine. They need to do this as well. Four save out of here with XM's arrival. This cat only has got the opposing one. It's able to do what he can. Dead in the water, down in the hole. It's a huge area. Did you trade it out though? Got down on my own the other side. So, not a horrible situation, Professor. We're going to try and see if he's on the map right now. Two really nice stuff, though. Two thousand net worth. I haven't really been able to see any creeps. Even though he escaped earlier on, it's not been an easy life. 13 CS that is nothing he's super poor again no I feel like he is the odd hero out and sometimes there's not a clear purpose you don't need that good of a game here you know if each he want anybody having a rough time earlier it's got to be the two more the other two cores so it's a little like it's a little acceptable in a way this is why Nick's assassin is really annoying doesn't have a home on the map that he's kind of joined up to cutting waves I guess. Yeah. He's dead. No way out of this. Let's try and draw their attention for as long as possible. And Shira's even gonna come back here and deal with him. Kill this courier. Rooting him up. Yeah, courier down. Nice little bonus for the dorm. Parking the meantime, getting hammered by this Drow. Can't tell me diving into the tower. Look when they're chucked in there on a final touch out this Drow, we'll do the job. Oh my God. She's gone. So many prongs. What was that? Wait, on every hit? Yeah, he's running like three times in a row there. I mean, he's dead no matter what, but that was just kind of insulting in here. It's pissed through all that doom zone, man. And XM is like, well, I already killed this mid tier one. We're going to play him too. Top lane's kind of difficult. Bottom lane, I don't want to leave my lane druid alone. So this hero that feels pretty dominant now at laning stage, sat in this mid lane just gathering farm. Definitely a little awkward for him. The natural move here is to go top, the take top tier one however you're going into a very high level draw ranger who's pretty farm tough matchup for the dp early when you have no gap close or long range disable and your dude is not really going to help you in this fight better to go to the lone druid lane yeah i don't know if you need to catch some of this though he's going to do it i kind of like to be held up there because the lone druids could do a lot of tower damage here no matter what anyway i think this This was a tower that wouldn't give me help, still level 5 on the Dawnbreaker. The hero not having much of a better time than Deep Beyond. These two all-players just get ransacked by the drop match-ups. What can you do against an owl back? This guy was running at you. Staven, GPK, got something done in that mid lane now. GQ gets punished for us, getting you trying to lead your experience. Nice little galvanized stack. Both Vici supports. Release. Struggling to get to level 6. You got Y sat just pre-6. Nick's assassin is not even 5 yet. He comes out of the bushes. Gordon with danger. He turns to the pinball. He puts them back. He's TPK. Grabbing the bear and the Inviseroon. Nick's assassin lands a stunty and then the capillum. He's still gonna get spawned by the... ...the challenge of that XMDP. Well, he seems to find it more than he's early game than... ...he normally does, honestly. Yeah, he had the 2 deaths, but he's also got 3 assists. He's already low of 5 and a half. This was a double melee off-lane with no chance against a drought. Again, a little bit here. Still saved with the best early game here of all supports. Should be taking a try and kill the bear. A bear hunt in the woods? A map! Comes all the way down with an endless rune. Got all the creeps too. Lots of time. It's a big golden injection for him. Highest level in the game as well, level 9 on this storm. Nice game for beachy gaming. So we're looking at the doom of Trankul's racer trying to get into drums and hand of Midas. So GPK knows he's not really under any threat and his bark is in full catch-up mode. It's gonna be a farm style game for BG outside of if XM wants to make some moves. He's the only guy in this game who really wants to do anything. You're just looking for low-level sticks on the nicks. Well, the nicks is fast in getting caught while the L2 is smoking to try and move bottom lane. I'm gonna lose Ginky without any answer. DP, Lich. They were nearby, but they decided just to leave the Nyx Assassin to die and instead try and play towards Miera. I don't like the smoke. There's nothing down here to get. Even if you find the dawn, he's a poor dawnbreaker. There's no objective over here. If you play into me, there's that sort of guardian that can come in and turn things. Start with Rod of Hoss. Chain crossing about in to clear out safe. Actually jumping in to the storm and the clockwork. Cato, he's gotta be careful now, though. Cashing up to the clock, not too easy. Speaking out to the other staircase. Oh, it just clips him on the tail end. Very nice there from Axe down. Alright, smoke ends up working out for him. Like, killing spree. But loses power. Yeah. That's a nice one for GBK. They really just have done nothing to address this. Drarang dropped off. 6.2k net worth, pushing the lane out, goes back to jungle, he's tele-raising very quickly. He's a good match-up since game, very little gap close, good against the lone druid, good against the death prof, especially when that axe is online, you get to health restoration, reduction. He's looking quite strong in this game. As long as Beth Boomb can frontline for the straw and give him a nice fight setup, he's going to do some serious damage. Yeah, I'm still blank, there's really nothing to worry about, but don't, you know, snipe into the back of the Knicks. You know what I'm saying? Three, four, die a sentry, go around that mid lane. Dammit, yeah, 9.2k from the hoodwind. Is that real? It's pretty high, this hero does do a lot of damage to get some acorn bounces on the early game. Which I think he got a, he also killed, or effectively killed the Knicks, two to three times here. Nice up to the doom. The road to recovery begins. Ichi just playing to scale here. They're not under the gun. They can play a slower game just far off. That's always the case when you have this laundry. But she will have to force objectives at some point because I think in the ultralight this drow is going to be a big problem. My drow stole duo. It's pretty nasty here, yes. The double melee heroes in a mid that yeah, it's a ranged hero But you have to gap close with that profits are you're effectively running a triple melee line up You're just gonna get kited to help the spacings there. Drows go shred this line Especially without Barmy's enormous 120 CS 1 0 perfect lane stage only already almost level 11 It's gonna be a fast ag that accelerates you even more you can join fights It's tier one. It's full HP There's no real threat there's also that ability to TP top and help him with a multitude of heroes. Thanks for the phone breaker Thank you is level six now can get himself a wisdom shrine as well and data Two-thirds of the way through the duration He's actually gonna be able to do anything with it. Yeah Barmead bedad of anything We'll help back kill some ancient creeps in the jungle We have the other answer drought same story with the lone druid Sheeros down the bottom lane with his nelstrom done Swiftly getting towards the meal there That's all about that timing with the meal there agonist scepter, which we usually see around that 20 minute mark Also to print of their pot here one pretty nicely too. He's a little lower on the health But no concerted effort from anyone I get both teams feel like there's this to agreement to sit and farm, hit the right in timings. Both pretty confident, heading into the mid game. I swear I guess if you have two devourer Midas and some ancient stacks of each, you may be getting a little more efficiency out of the map right now. I feel like any time the loan group just gets to farm as early as you can. You should be happy. It's a first pick loan group, I'm contesting here. I can't tell you even trying to park. I just planned to hookshot, but she became my stomp from the center. We've got cogs to push them across the bridge though. We've got a tank drag back. A bouncing machinery of Cata and his clockwork. I'm trying to sound the doom. Because GPK ain't even more. Next assassin though. Premium! How's he landed there? Now with the DP coming in, they take down GPK. Axan can't chase for more, but a very nice set up by this next assassin. That's a big fight. Especially going into this top tower, if you force the fight though. Careful though, death profit focused down, quickly burst. Charity's joining in as the chain frost is spread out, a delta split from that booms nice. No tower push going to arrive here for Vici Gaming. Took so much burst damage from this hoodling draw ranger. The adds are done for Charity to be happy to defend this part of the map and join the fight. That was always the risk going into this lane. There's a doom on a clockwork and If the on-out picks up that up here Finally getting some retribution from how that top lanes died. I think it's to the tick he dies No, it's at 19 health Very close to death, but for the head it I thought he had me too Dead Kirtich has a haste for And now you have the one on the run. Is this our case of Rinsen repeat for VG Gaming? Go top again? It feels like there's nowhere else for them to play into a bot from that northern jungle. There isn't. It's just impossible to go up there until Laundry's already joined the game, because you're giving Drowsse such a good play up here. So it's fitting way. I mean, in fact, we're going to play the entirety of the rest of the map. GPK can go sit bottom with a couple of supports behind him. behind him. Yeah, game of patience here. The one move that can happen is you try and take this longer during the portion he's trying to get to the axe here. It's doable, it's a very high risk, but it takes a lot of time to do it and a lot of heroes to maneuver to an awkward part of the map. It's kind of seem to support to look for a bottom, it's just very hard to find this hero. Oh my god, a tower for that trouble and a deep drain ward to see what's coming. I'm still smoked. Put some stuff in a position where smoke breaks on a lich observer ward. Why has been constantly just sitting in front of this LV breaking potential use? There's the firewall. There's the icy wall. I'm sure nothing's coming. And now even Nick's assassin joining him. Gincu is about 200 gold away from the blink dagger. We'd love to go and finish that off somehow. But instead, he's on our scouting mission. Let's see if there's no one sitting around. Peppin, sweep down here, get a tower. Don't get contested. Back to farming. Shiros, they're a couple of grand away from finishing off this Aghanim Scepter. So a couple more minutes until you have to go. Of course we get all the greedy enchantments. Everyone is wanting that extra bit of welfare, extra bit of money coming in their pockets. Only one on the side of them. Little sus. Save took brawny, which uh... It's interesting, since he's probably been hit once this game. Though I guess you can argue the reduction in attack damage on that hero is pretty significant. Smoke from Vici, gonna try and use this level 2 XO and find the Drow early if they can. That's not gonna be the case though, so Kyrtich could have a very good fight. And if I could storm who starts on the doom, sipping past across the next bar, I'm thinking ready and waiting for him there, it turns quickly, gets his stuns down, now Catherine and Kyrtich coming in from the south east as XM just chases his good wing down. They'll spear up, save, and finish him off with the exo-ghost, and that is another kill. As Kyrotich, Chainfroth is on him. They've killed off Y, but... Man, that bear is so scary being sent forward. They're gonna focus it down, no one's defending it. Now with a rod of ATO's root, an impale and a doom, they get back onto the Drow Ranger. Turn on Cato, let me try to bodygate this... Bodyguard the escape of this Drow-Birdist, master of IG gaming. As they come in for five kills in a row, the doorbreak is left isolated, XM gets a double! Baited in by that low HP bear. Had to resummon anyway, so the long fight's just not in your favor, and you had XO still running the entire time, you already had Yasha Kyle, he's pretty fast on the DP with the extra Witchcraft Moose V. XM just mowing people down, seven and one now, he's the big damage leader in that fight, uncontested. If you're gonna focus a hero to win this overall exchange, then it has to be the dead prophet, especially when you lose your storm spell early. GbK just got cracked by a therapist with the 8-0s in the balance, and that is the trouble for the storm this game needs in early DKB. That's the impact of this fight. I think you're supposed to bail here. It looked like they tried to fight by passing the tab once you get Kiritich and Mero in. As you can hear, you're still overextending, right? You're getting a bear, sure, but there's not a lot of firepower in the tank. It's a power of the next assassin. If this year, if you get... I want to say two rounds of spells is like the middle ground. Two rounds of spells on Nick's good fight. Three rounds of spells? You're winning that fight. Four, it's completely fucking done. One is, uh... You probably got something off, but you also died and the fight is takeable, so... If yours and Q just survive, you're gonna have so much impact here. BKB delivered for GBK. Ah, it's still being changed, that's helpful! Viet Rute, he's gone! Alright, Bat Boom, trying to make these moves in this top lane, and it's not working out for them. He's just kind of looming in this spot too, like what's he looking for here? Not respecting this assassin, what he could do, and turns it set up another huge fight. And usually, I mean, you've just seen them come through with force, There's five heroes, you go there with two? Not respecting the response out of each. Just bears. Gigafat now. Shiro, just mowing down the map, mowing down heroes, AGS are done working towards his next item. Should be Silver Edge here. Who do you shadow blade? Storm down to two Galvanized Sacks, and had to go second item BKB in this game, so he's feeling real rough. Yeah, you could fight with the BKB, but... Your mana regen's pretty pitiful. And I look at where the do-mit! The fifth guy on his back? He's always back. Top 4 net worth? No, he's bark. Darn, he's down in the dump for a long time. There's no touching his learn druid either. He's sat back in the pocket, hiding away, and then Shinkyu plays forward with his spirit bear. So you're taking these pieces of the pie away from Betboom. High value areas of the map being out-farmed. Why a bear who's just not committing anything? Really annoying combination to play against here. If you try and kill those bears as a nicks running interference, if you send some solo hero into that vicinity, the nicks can kill you with backup from the bear. If nothing happens, the bear is just gigaparming the map. You're worried about where the nicks is while he's not showing. Very obnoxious, so they just run around and look for anything right now if you're Especially since the storm got gipped here, Flaw is not worth core, he's supposed to be your big playmaker. Not making much plays happen here. No, it would be much easier for this hoodwinking clockwork to play the map, but I can see it, the mix has happened. He's 1v2'ing them in the arena, because they want to be playing their vision, like they've got some grey wards down his bottom lane. lane. They would love to be in their hot jungle hunting and land the storm to make the medium to long range zips to find people, but the fact that Shinkyu is just playing in between is very difficult. I think they needed to fuse the early advantage against that double melee offlane a little more. Find one or two extra kills on this doom and just chain gank him, completely ruin his day, feed off of him, get extra XP, kill this Nix mid when he was just sitting there getting XP. Like those were the two pressure points that you could have abused earlier that would have catapulted you into a better mid game. They didn't take advantage of them too much and now, you just let Vici farm up. There's no easy targets anymore. All these cores are really tanky, they're pushing towards BKB, so you gotta make something happen here. In the next few minutes to gain entryway into the mid game. If you can kill a DP first, that's gonna be great with this BKB timing, but you get jumped before your last cast spell, as that hook shot on the cast, and the draft from the high ground, it rains on in! If you're back on, Miero picks up a double kill as he slams down on Y. God. Damn, that was very nicely done. Me, she's not expecting the backup to be there. No BKVs to bail them out, they get abused on the clump with a sick bush whack into 4,500 MP to mount the Trouches. Frost herald them into oblivion with the hypothermia stacks. Once you pop, the next one pops, you're done. Chain reaction. Then into rush-jack. Things coming together for that wound. Long into play, it's all of a sudden. Great bait. Absolutely great bait here. It looks pretty good, you have the bear there, but beautiful hook shot. Beautiful bushwhack. Honestly, they might not even need it with the position he's here to cast. That's the ideal drought bait. Everybody jumps in, gets stunned on low ground, you're staying on high ground, like, hell yeah. Just attack move. Don't really need to do anything. Let's look at the map. You're deep in lunge, you're at no NAA by. No indication, I want to take a 5v5. I just thought the dawnbreaker thinking there's no way dawn has heroes next to her She always plays alone. What's the solar guardians because inside of the map? That trap and now Mentals on their side playing board with this clockwork and drow ranger Shredding through the death profit just a couple more hits from the multi. She's not quite there She's so speedy has a teepee out. Oh forced to blink Rocket flaring early came away and that is that's This ruff-raster's gonna suck down your fallout! The Knicks and the Bear! Bearing together, Kiritich helped by Miro, though, and the BKB's up to get back! The Lundrits, Merritt Bear! Down for 20 seconds now, as that was the resummon. The game's been turned on its head. It felt like there was wind in the sails of Ichi Gaming, but... One team fight! That's her outmatch of... She's got such good core matchups in this game, as long as... you can sit there and get people, you're always going to win a fight. Vici have not been able to get on top of here, other than that one fighter on the tier one top that kind of just broke down with the early XO extra bear summon. Now as a hurricane pike, huge item for him in this game, you get these defensive items up on the draw, he doesn't need much more damage to have huge impact here, so you can just build to survive. It's just such little gap close, mainly in this line-up. Top position for Vici, they're up on the house, it's kind of the crazy part. I'm losing a large portion of my lead though. Beppin's using his BKBs and it's planning very nicely to storm and bombbreaker with Dazz. And the blinkdang is a bit too gaming though. Investment into aggression, not paying off just yet, looking at BKBs of their own as the next fight to set themselves up in the coming minutes. You've always got to be worried about the bass of the push though. Shoving out waves, being very annoying. But you know there's nothing to stop you from bulldozing down buildings and grouping around the drought. Oh, it's Engel. Going to the coffers at the moment. Could be a couple of Lincoln spears out from that room probably. Trying to deal with the doom. It's on the single target to table. And just still working on the VGBs here if you're reaching Amy. You need to be able to go in and survive some of the magical burst plus control. Think in the fight with your bear, as the bear is getting ganked. He's got some buddies nearby. Uh, next. I'm Death Prophet. Don't want to get involved. The bear's already shifted away with a Shadow Blade. They've dusted it up though. I'll hookshot this. Cog into Starbreaker. Tons of damage trying to get out of there, but... Drarangar rides with arrows. Look at that, they're on cooldown for 15 seconds, so it's actually dead. That's pretty good. Yeah, I've done that a couple of times now. Sure, do it all careful. That's when we're doing a very good job tracking it. And this is where the other wing and the clockwork can really start to flourish. Play forward, go into these enemy ancients, you've already scouted with Rocket Flare. Get some of these advanced wards, wards for your storm spirit to make moves. Now we're in a stages game where storm, BKB, or almost Lincoln's when you have that Lincoln's spirit. Liches, Liches game gets pretty hard. Positioning has to be perfect from Y. They need armor, that's what they need. Especially if that lich gets caught out or can't get a great frost shield off. Storm being held down by the dawn gets the BKB off and looks for the turn kill, shink youth down. Storm is fine, isn't he? Yeah, he's chilling past the gem over just in case, but... You know, live here. Another failed game attempt. You're off. Stop the damage. Nice and a big difference there in damage. Lacking across the board for VG Gaming, whereas you have this drow hoodwink pumping out some massive numbers. You stole him, you can dream. I think we're high enough to get that damage dealt a little bit later on. Do you think the game becomes easier to play if you get Shiva's AC or something in this game? It's just gonna be a long time to build it up here because you wanted to go early BKBs. It's gonna cure Titch a lot more time to play with where you get a couple of procs start laying into these little armor, little bonus armor cores. It's gonna get messed up. And who's buying them? DP Sheeva's, Lone Druid AC? DP absolutely needs a big armor right in this game and it's probably Sheeva's. I think you do want an AC on this Doom or Lone Druid Bear at some point. It's not the best item in the game, but it's just always super value against the drought. I don't know if I like that. I feel like he should just go items to play for his other two cores to keep them alive. Maybe he feels like it's going to have lasting effect when the heroes are plumped in. Now Lincoln has already saved him. Storm Spirit entangled, captain's hit away though. Lincoln has bought enough time for him to get the DKB and the ball lightning towards HQ. We're aggressive from GPK, but he's got backup galore. I can TP back home. You need to have a survivability item on this Nixon to be able to guarantee the second round as well as ghost up their ULZ. It's like ULZ is the choice. It's still getting punished on these gank attempts. And that's a problem to prevent them. Man, the game is getting away from being cheap. You're trying to do what you can and it's like split push with the back, keep the waves out. But wherever, Bepp Room go, I don't know, you can't meet them head on in a team fight. You're getting out scouted, initiated on. Bepp Room just seem to have that instant reaction, finding the read and the perfect target to jump. Oh, what do we got here? Curtain's closing on Vichy Gaming already. Oh no. King Quinn. King Quinn. My first hormone he did. Mr. Remove Pangolier from the game. They only are allowed to play here. I thought it was going to be buff pangol. Buff pangol? Turn him into a real hero again. It's pangol's year. I think he deserves it. It was a year of the pangol. Year of the pangol. I think she's going for a smoke. Look at what Kanto is. He's right in front of them. Lane ward, smoke breaking position. Link's ult doesn't land. He's going to jet back and cogs while The hood went forward. Push back to start things. The Lundred Bear is in the back looking for Drow Ranger, but Floor Quick on the front line is just girting the edge of this fight, baiting them, drawing them in deeper and deeper. That's boom. Thinking about how to approach this now with the whole shot off of two, they get the grab on the storm, he's being doomed off, and the chain cross bounces between them. Why? How did he find him with that angle? He doesn't have blink or four staff range. Along the tree lines you can't even see you just get pulled out of there through the Lincoln sphere nasty stuff Why? Dashiness on this one. I honestly thought that boom would be to get the same place same Constituation I didn't look great the one thing VJ going for the math fight as the bear was on top of the drill You're not gonna kill a cure to there, but you have vision on them You know where he's positioned you know if he's engaged in a fight or not in that the bear can just start shooting him if he does. That gives you confidence to keep chasing there. But I guess once you've doomed the storm, GPK makes the call. That's over. Back up guys. Don't take this fight. 15 to 15. Nothing in it. That was a different surprise. A very close one. 15 seconds left for the Rochantary spawn as well. Yeah, we're gonna play out that bottom lane, we're gonna get tanked up by the Carapace on his way away. Mixed assassin. Finish off a full staff after the all-staff 2, so we have multiple items that are gonna help him survive. Could become really annoying in this game. We don't really have instant disable for this mix, no hexes or rubic lift or Cure that wants to build a site. Roshan, in order to be started, he roars, Latsvichy gave him no, but on an indication they want to come and contest this. It's been an issue for Vici to be able to have a lot of the naturally wants to take these Roshans, especially with the dead profit. We just haven't been able to contest them in terms of the timings. It's another big Aegis for Cure to Cheer, could not play really aggressive with the fight. Potentially even go high ground, it seems a little risky. If you're worried about getting ratted by the bear, the Dawnbreaker can sit back, and try and force the objective base fight. I just feel like you're getting jumped if you hit that high ground, it's not gonna work out well for you. Yeah, it's a little more difficult for V2 to find the individual targets and jump when it's out on the slide map for you, pushing high ground the way it is, yeah. An elevator, and a dust. They did come back and deal with a bear. Shut that down and force the resummon now. It's a decent job killing these bear off the sidelines. Just hunting in with the clockwork that your owl always gives you damage. Now you can maybe look for that bite, because now you know there's only one bear guaranteed. If you take the fight now, you can easily focus the barrel to start and not worry about another one coming into the fight. You still have four minutes on the Aegis here. Definitely an opening. Have Solar Guardian as well. Armored items did come out for Vici and Shiva's on the depth prophet. We'll have the lot here. Doesn't look like there's an AC coming anytime soon, as they did finish up the Ayes of the Doom. That gives Faith Bion a lot more qual fits to potential in these fights. He's going to fight with the Stomper first, I'm going to rally around the Stomper as well. He's still going to fight with the Stomper, I'll take him all the way back, give me a GPK, he zips in, you're a bad man. Say hello, what's going on over here? That gives Castle only eyes open to get a jump on the Doom, force the PKBTP, but that damage is overwhelming! No armor. No shot. This can't get away from it. I guess it's still not super high level, so it'll be up pretty quickly here. One upside. Jeb doing work for QBK though. The big item on the map right now, gives you vision against the bear, gives you vision against the Nixx assassin, you're removing the vision elements for Vichy Gaming to enter the fight. Giving you a lot of confidence on that frontline. That makes this Nixx assassin very afraid. You can't make these bold moves anymore. I'm trying to play the outskirt here. They see Thraurei and you just step up to tier three. Now why not? Still two minutes on the clock for the second life and he can be in the backpack. Double catapult, easy power damage. Axem is going to try and draw aggro and do what he can. Now, Xeero pushing through that middle lane. He brought tier 2 of his own, but you're losing a lane of barracks in the meantime. GQ has also had to come back to base to help defend in a... ...great up. Sexuation, last save. Now, start with Miero and here's a stepping forward. Axem is blinking to the side. A door breaker, a stundum killed, Aegis lost as well. And Kat early, jet packs out, has a hookshot ready, but they've caught out this Drow Ranger inside the base. A BKB, a TP, a root, a catch, they're gonna find this. Drow Ranger and take her down, maybe, maybe get the next assassin? No, not quite. The next damn is on the hunt in the back. Lost in that awning, big chase down by the ghost. The butterflies, the bats, whatever they are flying out and clearing that Kat early. That was extremely convincing, but I don't know if I'm doing anything. Yeah, you look at the hero damage. But there's zero damage in the firefight, doesn't he? Yeah, you have stuff coming out from the drought that he's already... He's just dealing damage from the grave, if I play in the base. That's some just blunt BKB Sheba ults into them, and... I think GPK spent the entire fight just staring at it. He didn't use any mana. He was just looking at the DP going, Well, I can't kill him. I'm not gonna jump into their base with my Drow who's dying, so... Okay, I'm out of here, boys. He's just looking from the shadows lurking. A true worker. I think it's Pult. Yeah, I know a great death. What could it be? I mean, they spend a lot. They won't face if you're just a ranged barracks. They're totally fine with that trait. They rather get to good fights in this game than they don't care about some racks because you have Lawn Druid anyway. Did they get the second gem? Was the Storm still holding? Yeah, Storm's not still holding it right. Did you catch their one in, so no chance to lose the gem if you never take the fight? So at least they hold onto that to see where the nicks and the bear are coming from. Very important, GPK has it. Just did not look too fancy at all. The AOE doomed it a lot. This Dawnbreaker couldn't find the impact. That is kind of a worst case scenario, for good. Boom is a fight where the formation doesn't exist because you're putting drought on the frontline. That's why that high ground's kind of annoying here. Peachy would love to just jump on top of here at this every time. You dangle him up there, they're gonna take it. Take off, full butterfly out of that on the pair. Oof. Speak here, big timings. They're gonna go straight into that vision. Smoke through this mid lane. Play the high ground ward and scan. That hits onto Miro. Excuse me to sass in. I'm not going to quite get there in time. The dawn break has already passed the barrier and into the base. And now you're looking at multiple lanes going towards the high side. Better than tightening up and holding up high grounds. Now we have defensive positions to be in. This makes it a little easier for their clockwork and their hoodwink to find angles. Like going high ground there's one angle right there. only one way you can hook shot, one way you can try and push whack at least here you can maybe try and weasel your way around behind this VG gaming side they would also like to finish the storm axe which just arrives for GPK because then that gives you a way to just jump and punish a clone or at least simplify it up a little better for cure ditch if you pull multiple heroes you have a lot more time to deal damage and flip that damage cop over now straight on the back might survive a butterfly nope too much follow up There's a resummon for Cheryl. 120 seconds. Cheeky King still smoked. Technically this Roche can spawn while he only has the one bear. I keep a window here for Beb to try to use. Gotta look for all the little things against this abomination over here. Trusting back and forth as well. If either team feels comfortable Pressing forward, filling this vacuum as created by the other. As soon as you cross the river, it's a real dangerous territory. Vibratron is in queue, is willing to kind of dangle himself out there. Oh, just a little innocent Nixess ass, and why don't you jump me? Even if you do it like Solid Guardian and Storm Spare, and the global presence of Batman is really fearsome. It's also looking for 25 on the DP. I think both these talents are pretty terrifying, right? Now announcing the entry with the beautiful trumpeteering of the full logos. I'm proud to reveal that the bold eagle passes over the head of the game. I'll load the Xavier. Dear God, what is that? I can't grip. Why is he a frost? What does that mean? I don't even understand. I have no idea. Is it like he's a cold hearted? Is he the... A monster or something? The Queen from Frozen? What? Not on him? What is that? I don't know what he is! The memes have been fun here since he's out. What happened to him? Ah, Queen's a warm-hearted fellow. He's not... Frozen the Heartless. A regular... Earlier that, Jenkins, you're too late about the cows. They don't understand the cows. I-I-I agree, man. I don't understand that meme either. And when you agree with Jenkins, you know something's wrong. I started to make a question about reality. I'm coming, ah! Both on the screen! Alright, this is hyped though. Level 25 for Death Prophet in one creep. We don't get to see this hero a lot, but damn these talents are... They are devastating talents in the right situation. I do think this extension is... It's a talent in that category of like the Windranger one, the Legion one where if that fight just keeps going, you just keep buyback and you keep killing people with this XO. Exo many pushes your high ground with another XO. It just never ends Endless eight seconds is so long on a spell like this. Let's keep some coming One minute to Roshan pushes it Blink for the depth profit now Lockwell is going to get found here though and we get hookshot back to save you switch the scape. Thank you an XM Oh, I don't have eyes on let me cave. That helps cap to earn me escape. That's butterfly for the drone out He's not okay. He's dead profit. He's choosing right there. I'm faked for XM. I can't believe you went overwarning Blink. You definitely want the Blink in this game, but that's a lot of gold invested into... An item that gives you minimal benefit from the really expensive recipe. It's not as though they're necessarily like Blink daggers to cancel when it's on XM. I'm tanky now. The move in attacks me slow is pretty nice. I guess the Drowry, yeah. But there's a lot of PKBs in this game. I'm mixed on it, hey. It's not bad here. I just wonder if there was something else that would have been higher value for how expensive it is. They've got the bear again. I was wondering if everyone's done very well. Oh, yeah. Checking out his bear. And GPK is getting AoE due. Hey, man. Gink here is not the target you can go on. Solid God is going to land in. And GPK gets away from that AoE dude. So I'm going to have a heaping thanks to his teammates. Now Drowranger hopes on the Glacier, standing her ground, forcing a BTP out of the Spirit Barrier. And now he's trying to TP out when the Hookshot comes in, stuns back out of Shinkkyu, looking at this block where he's tanky though as XM on the bar, on the Drowranger! TP out from Curetich, and he's forced to get back to Fountain and at least Roshan wide open for Vichy. The chain process going. He's bouncing back into the creep wave. Gracefully. Roshan is not. Well that was the fight where one hero died but Ichi I guess we're getting Rose off of it. Exo runs out here, it's just contestable. Oh he's so close. Back and Jinkyu on the front lines, Storms have seen the A.O.I. Force, and UBK he gets the Aegis and the kill! What a god. The cat was falling through his back, he's gonna refresh up. Throw the A.O.I. Doom down to Mero. I'm gonna skip over this Dawnbreaker, hoodwink. With the Dawn, Pulse falling. But UBK got the Aegis! Rotary go round, let's try and catch him with another A.I. Doom, jump in from the Doom, Lincoln's Polish Dwell, Hookshot comes in on the next assassin, Kyrgyz gonna stand up and deliver damage, Rainy, turns down onto V.G. Gaming, but Ex-Emma's arrived! She was gone, the Crypts' form's getting spammed out, why try to catch up to this one? But it's Ex-Emma on his own in a 1v3, he's got nothing left to give! He had no Siphons, no Ex-O? Yeah, you right-clicked, but you're out right-clicking, butterfly-drown! They go deep, they go too deep, they pay with a triple kill and the cheapy case pocket off the ages respawn. It looked good until it didn't. You still have a bear either. There's no EXO, you use the refresh chart to get another doom which didn't kill two people, I don't mind that play at all. But then you have to have some discipline there in fact that hell out cause you're missing your big damage spells. So, here it is that she's able to sit there and deliver the big deeps, level 25 himself now for the bonus multi-shot waves. Six deals for the GBK. Perfect full timing. Almost gets the stun there for fake beyond, but of course he VKBs, so there's a little flex right there. Oh yeah, anyway, I had it. I'm here. And you get these couple of kills, like nine, you got it. If you're gonna keep you back to base, you've got no chain frost, your doom is expiring, XO's down. Yeah, I just missed it too much. Like here you gotta fail. If you're super tanky with this raw shield, it's kind of beating you. I think you're a lot stronger than you are. But once that expires, just not enough left in the tank to cure you. You're able to create a little space. That's all you need. Like pushbacks and full snaps. That's not the same multiple times now. No, it's not fun. The new ability item is harpoon, forces, glimmers, there's tons of these displacement tools. Oh, a bath! Self-doomed in the base. Doomed the poogie, I guess. He doesn't have Refresher, but Lundruit does. There's a multiple baths. Alright, you got Refresher, that's good. We saw that other game where I was casting Omne, one Octorine, and it might have cost him necking. You'd way rather have another Resolven when you need it than just lower the cooldown of the Resolven. The cooldown is almost never relevant. I'm going to look for the MKB to deal with the drought though. That's the one I'm going to escape again. This guy apparently is made destroyed. Playing out of the Raiden Ancient's high ground area. It's making Ancient's a maze all the time if they want to. Pushing without Aegis. Super scary though. We saw that earlier high ground fighting plan and that was with the Aegis. there's a very high risk that each of you can just jump all in your drow and Kyrgyzh can get melted here just from overwhelming spell power someone's frost shielded even without the bear so you gotta be careful on these kind of plays and they're not gonna risk it probably wait to next Roshan which gives each of you a lot of time here to regroup man gets that doom Refresher Scythe would be big I can speak to gaming heroes not the best buyback heroes No, you want to be buying out big items if you're popping doom and XO You kind of want that all-in dogfile winner team fight storms forward rather than have Multiple heroes buying back hundred percent. It's probably one of the worst three cores to buy back on in the game. There's your Karatik, GPK on the other side, very good flyback heroes. There's still a lot of room to grow. The scary part, this storm can still power up a lot here. You're still missing the Parasmo on him. He's now level 25 with the overload of bounces, plus Ag Char. So he's kind of got that part going. You get Parasmo, then you're fully kitted. There's another item slot as well while he's holding this gem. No good chances for ShinQ to play his hero as you would like. Don't step out of the base. You're just bunkering down and hoping that that boom missed them. Cure a titch. Show us for a moment. He stands on top of the glacier to get some damage on the bear. XM. He's going to put himself in harm's way to push them away. It's not just scary high ground. Into the XO, into the Doom, into Triple Bear... Eugh. And it probably can't be Waverose, doesn't it? I think someone's going to shove that bottom lane eventually, though. I think it's their posturing is that they want to kind of do it. Like, this storm isn't really far from the town. I guess you know where the bear is. The bear is. He's just played from that mid lane and going bottom and you've seen it with the ob-century. So you know the split-bush is a little delayed. It definitely isn't going to be hitting your tier 2 anytime soon. The bear in fact, not going for a split-bush, goes to the secret shop to finish off the MKB. Then returned to his master back in base. He will mass-cure to jump if you can get on top of the straw. You should take the bear plate. Difficult to do. That's what you're looking for. I'm just gonna instantly smoke with that MKB. I mean, she gave me not afraid to get aggressive here, let the next lead into the fight. He has a lot of survivability now. Ghost, Eul's plus hangout, this clutching Q. If he gets nullified, he's gonna be real sad. The bag has started on. I was trying to see if he'd chop him that way. And Kat only says absolutely not. Can't get too baited by it anymore, when everybody's off the map. You start hitting this bear with Trow, you're gonna jump. Now it's time to stop taking a little bit of damage. And Beppin's continued to hold these star kings and see what comes their way. And all groups together, damn those waves disappear. Multi-shot is so disgusting. And the mirror is stood by a staircase to the tower ready to shoulder-guard you in under the death-front, but this cat only starts with a hookshot and it's around damage. She just appears and she doesn't have that blind back Awkward place to die in awkward ways to catch Got that over here just delivers food on a platter Big drought DBS that'll open up the higher up for sure I got real awkward real quick reaching You'll lose this lane This storm is gonna zip across clear out more waves two lanes down 70 seconds, no death profit And that bottom wave it's about to approach the raiding face So they can actually swing down there clear through the jungle in the high ground ward Solution Q now is relegating himself Trying to catch someone in the forest, but there's nothing to be had out there I think this helped most of the Vici games have gone. There's moments where you see this team come together They look really good. Maybe they're even winning but She can't close the fountain. They cannot finish off. We're going to do something. Have some confidence. Have a go at the Drown Ranger, but they can't get the spirit band to stick on the Drown at all. Here, if it's with the other GPK, we're above the action. Straight back to the buildings. You can tell he has a mechanically skilled and got good execution, got good ideas, but it doesn't all come together in that big picture. Alright, it's Beppu. Tighten it. Stuck together. They're all on the same page. Sit behind the drown. Watch Jarosic hit the buildings. Very clear idea on these late game fights and how the lineup's supposed to function as well. Or is this means she wants a lot more nebulous? Are you playing around the Lone Drew Bears or are you playing around the Death Prophet going in? Are you playing around Nix's ass and finding some pick-off? You know, what's the identity of this lineup in the late game? Who's shot goal are you listening to? Exactly. Who's gonna lead it off? I mean... Yeah, in theory you have an entryway into the fight with the Nix, but it's a little dubious point in this, Jeff, all these long-ranged heroes, Fuller, Guardian, and Nullifier turnaround. The Bear's having trouble gap-closing the DP as we saw it can get shredded if she's out of position. Just a lot you have to worry about, where's your Bethune? If you're caught down, you're going on anything! Yeah! What you see is what you get. Now, Prasma did get finished for this storm, so... The Stingletar got damages out of control for Bethune. If they're able to just lock some heroes down with the supports there, they can actually massacre by this double ranged core. The first line-up just becomes ultra terrifying. You're gonna need to have to find sick jumps here if you're beachy. The Nix is gonna have to get some good stuns off, the D.B. is gonna have to get in there very early and just wreak havoc. So, we've been calling this lone druid pick fake, haven't felt the impact, we've seen some games where it's just run the game, munching people down, mowing down lanes, killing towers. That boom really halted the traction, made sure that there wasn't a foothold for the bear to actually play into these lanes and get stuff done with the Nyx assassins by hunting the bear down. Again, Kat's Omi has really been on the mark. Blinding the bear, stopping, giving chances for Storm and the Drow to kill it off. He hasn't been able to exert too much slow-push pressure. Dawnbreaker definitely helps with it, instead of heroing one of those lanes and not worrying about it. And they've just been doing his Roshan's instant. Here's another one that spawns there, instant. They've been no hesitation. This is what Winsu gains. Just instantly committing your ideas. The bear being pulled by Chibikei, Okay, so Beachy knows there's no storm in the pit right now. He said to go for it. They're de-warning to begin with, and Mochab's already fallen. They don't get that for the content, and now, very awkward. I've got to evacuate. I can't stick around here and go in piecemeal. It's got to be a real concerted effort. It looks like they're still gonna move in towards Shinkyu. Now they start otherwise. That leaves him wide open. You see that hesitation, they'll act as if they were going in any way. The Death Prophet, the PKP, getting a pistol plate, stuns, X-Tems, all on his own. No backup to be seen. Literally nothing to help him. Now, Bark with the AoE Doom? Well, he's formed a separate. Thanks to Miero, gonna drag him back in with a multi-shot damage. He'll deal with a bear and a doom at the same time! Bark got to a damn thing! Well, by back on the Death Prophet, Doom's holding his. But I don't know, the execution of RPG gaming all over the place. Couldn't find some of the latch on to, they go in one by one, and Bat Boom say thank you very much. Teamfight victory. They have to buy something here. Miss Drow can't be left to slip away. XM and Jinkyu looking for the open on Keratich. And they got revealed, they see him, but uh, Starbreaker, now the bushwax that's gonna come in. Cool some problems for them. Drow in that first life, don't break it, doesn't. Danga's Miro and GBK's Low on Mana. Kiritich trying to stand up there with a peek and he's going. Saps through another bear and X-Dem. That's the back away, leaving ZinQ all alone yet again. Hookshot in towards Y as well. It's Kappa early, keeping the bear from the bear. Finally, getting on target. They stuck it on the drought. Killed up Kiritich. He'll buy back now, though. No way. Got his blood in the water and X-Dem gaining a down two hero. It's GPK trying to break free. Anyway, Skanslu catches him. They have lost so much, though. The Dumer's fall under thermal bears. And Kiritich does third life with the Drow Ranger. It picks up a double. Too many lives on this drought. Michi just throwing bodies at the arrows here. That's a really tough lead game to play. I think we saw like the more and more of this game goes deep, this storm-drower just takes the fights over. You just don't have enough ways to gap close them, consistently stick on top of them. The bears just getting shredded. Even when you were on top of them, there's moments where tears just snap there and hit it back. So winning those fights, you just struggle even with all the gap close they could muster. So very awkward late game for each of playing maybe they had to snow all that game or they lost all the Rochon's in that game, too I think that's a huge difference maker here when you play these push oriented lineups You want to be getting ages? Yeah, those DB can go in like you want to be the ones hitting high ground with that So making that boom try and go on you alone drift finish with no deaths on his hero But yeah, I don't like 20 of course. Yeah, the test are relevant on this hero Stick game from here to play it really well. You got too much out of this lame against the niggth doom you're always gonna get a lot but it's gone a lot a lot yeah go back to the doom this just seems like the hero that's out of place in this game like what I don't even think it was a lot of faith be honest like what is the purpose of doom in this draft right it's just not there so it's really tough yeah I think you made a great point towards the talent of that game as well I don't know if it's too many cooks in the kitchen or not enough you know not one singular voice because it didn't seem like Viggy gaming had that real drive and direction and that led to Bepperm taking game one It seems like the option to go up to first pick this time warped out for them, except not only did they go for first pick, they did not go for the most banned hero of the first pick. Instead they said, we're going to take the first pick and we're just going to lay low. You can have loan druid. And Vici Gaming, let's see what you do with it. And it was, I guess, pretty competitive for the majority of it, but the clock ticked too far and the drawranger got too large at the end. She really did. I think Bethven had a lot of cool fights in Clutch Place too, like the one where we saw just now where GbK stole the Aegis. Things like this do add up, but ultimately I think that it was Gichi's game at some point and felt like this lunderer was just going to take over the entire map, but it was Bethven's ability to create situations for themselves where they could use the drawranger's net worth like that perfect fight up top where she cleaned up on Everybody that took them to the finish line. Yeah, I feel like in the late game against drow. It's He's one of the most punishing heroes to like slightly overextended against because you're just you're just not running away and Meaning you are running away, but you're not moving and if you're running away from drow She's hitting for 700 damage ignoring your armor So I there was that one extension we saw just in that clip then just now we saw the like that ridiculously long fight that happened to the triangle. It actually started with XM blinking into four heroes with BKB XO on. We were talking about that talent he has at level 25 that extends with every death. That includes allies and it's global. So that fight went on for like two minutes and just theoretically if he had not done that, right? That's an exorcism still going and that could have turned into time. So there are a lot of things that went right for both teams, a lot of things that went wrong. It was a fun back and forth game. No, it really was, but XG definitely, It felt like at some point they ran into, I don't know if it's like even a mental barrier, but where they feel like if we don't kill Drow, then she's like gonna kill all of us. And there were multiple fights where X-Men did exactly what Brian just talked about, where they're like overextending and like kind of dying. But I think also in the mid game, there were a couple of cool plays that happened. You had like this move in the top lane where you get like just the bowling man. Like, first of all, he's very good when you get these calls, but it's not very often you see like an overall path like being cut to like the full extent. And I think Katomri on this clock, he did a lot in this game as did the GPK Storm, but he also had a separate play later where I think the over-chasing, like it also started a bit early in this game. And you did see like Ginkyu, you know, and you see some of the impact that XM did have with the early Atox into the Kaia. His build was really cool and so was his early to mid game. But they had like, you'll see it like later too, where they just have some over-plays, like even here, the play is good, you kill the GPK Storm, But I think it's also already, you can kind of see it, where they're overplaying. Like, you know that there's a dawn breaker, there's a dawn ult, you don't have a carapace to stop it, and there's the drawranger, like, Kiritage. He had a very, very clean game, I think, on his hero. But something that Vici do well, that I hope they continue in the next game, they're very good at smoking through the side lanes. Like, understanding when you can bait someone, and you're going to them to help bark out at a really bad early game, because I fully agree. I think there was a lot of back and forth in this game. Vici had it at one point, but if you don't execute teamfights properly, It's a tough game to win. This is like them... Oh, and that later in that clip. Go ahead, Mira. No, go ahead, Barrio. Let's talk about it. I was just going to say that every clip it feels like one team's slightly over-extending and getting punished massively. This was an interaction we were curious about, but you want to talk about this? Yeah, like I didn't know, because I thought you can only root through BKB if the axe is on your main hero. But how it actually works is, if they're BKB'd and you still have your Q spell available on loan, where you give them initial charges, If you then get to hit them with your hero, you can actually root them through BKB But this only works if you still have your Q available once they have BKB because this interaction I don't know if Curitage really knew about it because I've seen people TP out against You know loaned with plenty of times in the last like two weeks So you should save your Q cooldown on the hero until after BKB if you're in the fight Which is also it doesn't happen that often right because how long this plate is like see ya boys I'm farming on this corner you guys are here, but if it happens like this get out Well, if Drowranger is ending up in your fountain, I guess that happens. If a Drowranger shows up, then it might be a little bit of a bait. The kind of bait that you would use in fish. Can we see our fishing leaderboard? Do we have that available? Because, Effie, you are curiously absent from what we've been doing all of Dream League Season 29, which is to get a task for our day, which you can already see the hints of it resting on our table right now a little bit of a painting we send you over to a well well has a rod in it and a string attached you would insane you are the only ones who have not participated there's a wide range near you got this trust me my design perhaps from not you got seconds to two minutes and 57 seconds maybe I've been hiding perhaps no no no you're hiding how powerful you my power. All right. How does this work? So on the long side, yeah, you can see the hook and then you pull the string on that end to reel it in. And we have a camera inside the well observing. Okay. Are you ready? Sure. Go for it. But it's spinning too much, though. Yeah, yeah, just wait. It's just like a counterweight. There's an envelope inside with a hook on it. I don't know, like spinning? Stop spinning, you son of a gun! Keep telling it. It's got that centrifugal motion. You have three minutes, Mir, don't worry about it. I kinda stopped it from spinning. Hold up, just...just... Focus, focus. Flight on set. Dude, this is... It just won't stop spinning, you just stay still. Can you rest it against the envelope? I'm fine, I'm fine. I still have K-finish. Get her up to like three minutes. Yeah, you got plenty of time, Connish, right? Just stop spinning. Oh We're laughing at the graphics they're putting up the Largo's are helping you I want to see what the hook is like on hers because That there's no talk I find the spot emotion, but it just doesn't work. Oh, I see. Like, it won't. I'm not sure if you're not looking at it from the back. Well, I find both directions. Nope. Nope. Oh, my God. If it weren't for wrestling against that, then I would just... Oh! Oh? This looks promising. Was it? This looks promising. Have you ever heard of the methods for this in real? You're pushing that boulder up and up. But inside of a boulder, it's just the constant laws of physics that are working against me. Oh! I wonder if we're getting close to Sheba's time. Did? No. Where's like two inch, I think. Two-ish? Just go. Hold on, hold on, hold on. We're holding. Okay, I got it. Let's go! I will say that that was not very enjoyable. However, I'm happy to partake in these quests. Many people enjoyed it, I'm sure. We're all participants. Very good. Well, as soon as possible. And now we have the final contestant. The task has already been revealed, as you can see, and we are going to start working on collaborating on this painting during the break. break while our teams are gonna work on thinking about what they should pick as we get into a game number two. Stick around everyone and be back with more of that when you see what you get me. You can't tell us in the bottom, you can't tell us in the bottom What you need is love and understanding, find a heart whose love is true. 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Your heart was broken in a thousand pieces, so what faith that you can do This dance man, who's your salvation Just ask yourself, am I ready for you? 100% I'm ready 100% Yes, I'm ready That's why I'm ready 100% I'm ready Take a chance in a new direction Any place you wanna go I don't have all the right answers But one thing I know I'm so ready for you I'm so ready for you I'm ready, I'm ready No, I'm ready I'm ready, I'm ready On the way to move well What do you do with me, there's no love What do you do with me, there's no love I'll shine bright lights, big, snappy Sunshines, my time, I'm ready I've got you, come to me I've got you Welcome back to the field of dreams, friends where we are getting into game number two of A Beboun team versus Vici Gaming, where I am still curious how Pick priority is going to play out, because a Beboun team were content winning the coin flip and taking first pick, and then giving away loan druid. Where does that put Vici? Do they want to take first pick? Do they want to take second pick? You were saying that it was a pretty even split between first and second pick for Vici, right? Not like for them. They also had, I think, 14 games on second pick. second pick so also all of their games were on second pick maybe they swap it up you know after the last game you didn't do that bad if you didn't do it on the lead up placement I don't know being seven place sounds like the sixth loser you tell me that if you get top eight at a door to swim and you're like I do this terrible showing I top it at a door to tournament yeah oh yeah just throw in the towel at that time, time to retire. Why do you think so? I never lose this series. Same song. It's time to give up. No, never. Never. Never. So, for Veechie, honestly, I think that they need to find a way to secure the late game for themselves, potentially, because it had a really great idea on how to play early on. But towards the end of that game one, we saw so many fights go in their favor with I'm missing like a key component right like we saw them winning fights without having any bears We're taking this really long fight so that an exorcism it felt like the game play was there But they were just missing something to make it easier for themselves a confirmation I think I saw on the screen that BB team picked first pick first game And then I think beachy picked first pick this game which is very interesting. This is so funny like coming in They both just decided let's do the opposite and yesterday We talked about the last six games before this first game of this series for Bethlehem. They played against a first pick pango So they were winning against it and then yesterday they lost to team spirit twice with this They responded both games with monkey king specifically. Are they gonna run it back? That's the question. They do not they go for the storm spirits. Where were they where they putting this monkey king? Specifically on Kierchich. Yeah, so yeah, so it's like one of those where I think they wanted it to lane match up again the pango in general and then so game once Team Spirit picked Storm later on in the draft so they move the Monkey King to carry and then in the other one they picked QWOP later on on Team Spirit so they move the Monkey King to carry so I think I didn't get the chance to watch that game but I'm imagining that Monkey King carry is not nearly as good against pango and lane as Monkey King mid yeah it's definitely more abusable in the mid lane but yeah I like this approach we've seen this morning our storm has looked very good in both the last two games last night and the one we just watched if you're up against pango mid you kind of free form you do very well even if he's on a sideline you can gank him he doesn't threaten you too much he's semi-slow and gpk storm honestly is it's gotta be one of the best yeah even with how he was shut down in that early game like leading a step prophet into the early jungle and to also playing against a mixed assassin he still found his way back into the game and managed to pull off big plays like stealing the Aegis. My question is, do you think Pengo is a reflex to Glock for Vici? It has to be. And I think it should be also with how I see him. He's like the type of Offlaner who reminds me a little bit of Psy. I don't think he minds playing, you know, the first pick that's thrown to the wolves in a way. Whereas, I mean, Exem can do the same. But I feel like if you give either of them the choice that they can shut down an enemy hero, I think Exem would jump the gun and like be very vocal about it. Okay, last game I had this matchup. It was fine, but maybe not good enough. Give me this other guy I can destroy him. Maybe it's some viper or something else. That's still in the pool or an ember That'll be my read. What do you think Brian? I mean, I think I have the most important question of all here Let's go that I see pango and storm getting married back there, and I'm just wondering what if Omni Knight gets picked here Then what happens like what happens like does he Why himself the more relevant question is if Omni Knight were picked first phase then would there be two Omni Knights? That's what I'm saying. Omni-ception. Like, is he marrying a clone of himself to somebody else? I'd say that's the important stuff. But no, going off in what you guys were saying, I actually had a plan to answer. Remind me of what you just asked, because I really just had to derail that. If Pango is going to be flexed to the offline, and I was saying that I think XM Bulls shelfed that Pango somewhere else, because he's the guy that's like, I'm going to screw this guy over. Thank you. Thank you for reminding me. I thought it was exactly that. You literally talked about in draft one that this is a guy that tries to ruin your lane, XM specifically. So he goes for the death prophets, the vipers, these counter picks that make it very difficult for heroes like Stormsphere to have that impact. He did put a lot of pressure on GPK that game. I think it says a lot about GPK, the plays he was making later on in the game, that he was playing the map against... he played a lane against death prophet and got bullied out, and then died like two or three times mid game to the nicks. Somebody kind of has to die there. and Manus will still have a lot of late game impact. So I'm just, yes, I think XM is likely to give this pangol off, but then at the same time, GBK has already proven that if you give him a bad lane and a bad game, he'll still make it happen. So is it worth hard countering him? That's like the question I'd be asking myself. Is it worth it? I mean, I guess for me, the question would be, like, is there an 18 pick that presents itself that's more valuable for the offline hero? Because if the answer is yes, then maybe. But XM as a player, I don't think he functions if he isn't playing from ahead. That's just always been his style as a Dota player. He counterpicks the online, plays nuisance heroes and runs with this team. And there's also other stuff that you could go for from the supports. There's all... They're one of the teams... I mean, there's other teams too, but Sidencer is overall quite good against Storm. If that's something you can... You know, it's something you can look for unless you feel like the lane is too hard against Woodwing. because Hoodwing does trade quite well against Silencer in the lane, like, on the side. But it's one of the things that can work, and it's one of the wise, more soul-played heroes in the tournament. If you've got Silencer and Hoodwing, then there's always the potential of busting out the Dawnbreaker too and just playing the same combination. Yeah. So do you need to pre-pick a carry that can lead against Dawnbreaker? Something like Windranger feels like it could work as a flex, it's not ideal, but this was also just a ZinQ here. He's played it a lot this time. Yeah, they've been flexing Windranger a lot. Like they've played it on Kerry, three days ago they played one game on Kerry and then one game on ZinQ, so... I think the idea of this is that openness of the pick. It is a very strong laner. The safe lane that you have to... Like you have to pick a strong lane in to weather that storm effectively. Thank you. I was thinking about that, even though I knew I wasn't talking about some of our spirits. But at the same time, you don't know if it's for sure your lane, so it does throw a little bit of a wrench at things. And I like that Bat Boom's response to it is to pick a really strong safely. Because now you have that option of, okay, by the time we pick our offline hero, Vermeer, we'll know where this Windranger's going, so we'll have a keen sense of the matchup there. Marta Tusk definitely one of the scariest lanes. I guess it could theoretically be a Hoodling 5, but I think Marta Tusk is going to be incredibly punishing if the pango goes off lane. Suddenly you're in the spot of like, okay, the debate's over, they go for the Queen of Pain. Probably have to ban the Alchemist now, because Alchemist Qwamp, both heroes did get nerfed, but it's still a very powerful duo and that's when Peachy Gaming also flexed. so flexed. Yesterday they moved the Windranger to support and ended up getting a carry Alchemist. Or not yesterday but their last series. The Alpan is good. I think you're also looking at most likely a melee carry. I would say that melee carries are what is good against Muerta. You want to kind of jump her and then maybe when she like ults you can kite back. I think Muerta has quite good matchups into most range carries. I would assume at least she's high range herself. She's good against like physical damage So like maybe tiny alchemist or some that come to mind The only thing about the murder task it is a very very strong lane But I wouldn't mind playing wind like windranger post force totally chill in this lane Yeah, if windrun against tag team, you're not really gonna die So I think he can offset the bad matchup that Bob on pango is supposed to have That makes sense. Yeah, he can definitely effectively zone the task force out the tag team himself So nice following the alt that they do take out. I like the Largo ban. You know, I think it just in general against their lineup dispells are insanely good. It's probably not a Windranger carry, but the Lich Armor and Wap Daggers, even like the Pango Shield, there's just like a lot of little things to remove in this game and a lot of times it's not worth... None of these are really worth itemizing for most of the time, so just having a a hero with a super low cooldown dispell would have been very useful. Tiny is still the one that I see for a Bedboom. I don't know if you guys have another read of what Xero could take 23 because you also, it's blind. Like the last pick on Bedboom is still the carry, rather it's still the off lane, so it narrows your options at least a little bit. I like Tiny a lot. Personally. I think a Sassan type carry would be nice as well. Because you have a lot of on-map heroes right now, like Kwap usually shows on lanes, Pango shows on lanes. But I think having that assassin type carry would be great. I guess Chara does have some carries while he likes to play in situations like this, but the issue is something like a doom coming out at the very end. Like if you were to pick a faceless void, for example, that could have been an option if you were a second pick, but that's not the case here, which goes back to the pick order that we were talking about. Do you think he's been sufficiently discouraged from Lone Druid? I didn't realize he was still in the pool. You can play it, but I personally feel like this hero has lost some flavor. I think it's addressed within that room's rocks with the Tosca ring, he had the Muerta to operate as a bar ranger. And there's also the overall last pick, which could just be a Dawnbreaker run back. You might be in a lot of the same position. Yeah, that's why I got a bit thrown by the Rubik band, so they're still, you know, respecting the idea that Windranger could be Karrie. Which I guess I can see, but Storm, in my opinion, kind of enjoys this matchup. Sure, like Windranger plays well, I think with Pangu and Quaff, like they want to have early skirmishes. You're going to do well on your lane, you can go through the gates, so in that sense they're nice together. But Amelia Karrie to me just grounds it out quite nicely. I don't love the Windranger into a Morita carry matchup because both heroes are effectively arranged turrets that have a way that makes the other one not be able to hit them. But Morita can buy an MKB and Windranger can't buy an item that allows her to hit the Morita. So I've seen this matchup play out a few times. We even saw it earlier in the VP series. I would rather be Morita there, so I'm curious if Ichigami agrees. Shiro agrees with that. Well, let's see what they can cook. Koshiro is a very specific type of player. Yeah, that's what... They will still go for the... Which I would assume is something that Bed Boom also saw coming. Like it's not a... Like this is not a pick that really can or should surprise you rather at the spot. Is Offlane Necro ever viable? Yeah, I think in some games it is viable for sure. Okay. Because I had to consider it here. It's playable. You know what else can make Pango's life difficult? Yeah, it's good against multiple heroes here, but they go down break your run back and if it ain't broke Don't fix it. This game does function differently than like Donbreaker excelled in the last game because there were a lot of like Fights to turn and they were hunting the bear down this time around I don't think the dawn breaker is gonna have like as high impact in those first 20 minutes But it's still a solid draft you have this one plus down breaker combination Yeah, I mean, Morta is very different than Drow, right? Because you're both high damage, but Morta is like a transformation hero. She doesn't have a way to prevent you from running away. So I think the punish from that boom, if Vici Gaming goes a bit too far, like, I think they'll have a easier time disengaging, which is also sometimes a problem for a hero like Dombreaker, where like they force out the ulti and then just disengage. So that's what I'm kind of keeping out for, is like, we were talking, You're talking your pre-games, I've been kezzed about these like two prong moves forcing information one way or somewhere and then doing something somewhere else I think it's gonna be a lot that way and fights for Vici It's gonna be a lot of poking and prodding with heroes like pango tine and co-op and then you're trying to bait out these defensive spells Whether it's the snowball the the dawn break royalty and it's all about that patience I think we're gonna see you in here. I like the Vici draft. I think shiro on tiny has looked quite good I also like the co-op a bit more into like this dawn breaker lineup It's not nice when you play a hero like DP into like you're very committal You can go in, you can poke, you can jump back out and re-engage, but at the same time, the Storm Dawn has looked very strong, so to me it's a lot about the early game, and how Batboom can play through maybe their safe lane, can they offset this early pick pango. But overall, I would give Vici better chances this game. I mean I would agree with that but I like about beachies about this time around is the downtime is a lot less like you're Not playing with these big cool downs like you have X them in a position where if you go as well She can't control them up for a big period, but at the same time you still got that GP case bomb spirit That's the lesson. Let's see if it's gonna work out or if we're gonna get a clean 2-0 Let's get into game number two with a garrison. That's each a And away we go, into the game to get HG Gaming. Against Bethlehem, a lot of moving parts of Game 1 for HG Gaming, but they couldn't really bring together into that one solid piece of machinery to work in unison. This time around, potential to play for the Queen of Penny, the Pango, the Tiny. I'm not sure if you're a good Ranger, but I guess you're still at this storm, dawn-rate combo. Dawn-rate is general as a hero, I hope all his tokens look very good. It's performed well. This is where your employee is at this point, but particularly when you get up later in the draft, you can't even really counter the gift. You just have to deal with the presence she's gonna create that if they gave her special influence, or if it's towards the takeover. You can't even see this hero being beaten on the lane too much either. It seems like they get a decent amount even if it gets shut down in the last game. It's still a pretty high impact, so I have a lot of faith in the hero right now. right now. I think again, that booms lineup just looks really cohesive. They're all going to come together, they have initiation, they have save, they even have a hard save with the plus and the loss. Yeah, that should be a lot out here. They have BKB Pierce, they have scaling with the Murtha, plus with Lorma, another double ranged late game duo. The VG lineup has a lot more local damage power. They can get the Pangolier, they got the Lich again, last bit tiny, always super strong. It just doesn't look like it's gonna punch together with this thing as expected. Looks a bit more individualistic, like all the individual components are strong but do they actually come together at some point in this game? That's where I'm having a more difficult time seeing it. Thanks, we know the combo is there right to like Tusk, snowball, delay things, solar garden comes in for a second round, Storm can pick his moments, lots of ways to enter the team fight. It's just simple little combinations that make Dota easy to play. You have Tusk, You have this hoodwing that can fall up on a storm jump. You have a solar guarding that can bail the morta out These things all make sense to me this VG lineup is like What are you frost armorina paying a rolling or something? You know like quap win ranger? Baggarine someone in the power shop. It's just kind of more weird. It's like that is an execution, right? Yes, you know ahead of time what the sequence of spells is going to be who's going to be sitting behind rich hero I think that's been my biggest issue with Vici's performance in this tournament is I think individually they're playing fine. I just think the lineups often don't punch together the same way some of these really high tier teams do and try and constantly set up. So see if they can make this one work. I definitely think the Tiny can have some big impact in this game in terms of running the map and being a really big threat. I think Shiro played fine last game as well, so as long as he's confident here, you have a nice run at it. Yeah, we've seen Tiny do pretty well into this storm matchup in the mid-game, when you're able to Shadow Blade and find that storm spray before he definitely gets stuff done. Can be decent against the Murato as well if you pick that angle and get onto one of these key core heroes. That's a big factor too is, can you scale on this game compared to last game? Because last game I think you were just, you know, keep getting out-scaled if you're a Vichy gaming here. I think it's a bit more nubulous. This queen can still be a powerhouse in the ult for late game Can be a pretty nice matchup against the the morta if you're disabled output So much overwhelming burst damage that she's gets chunked early has to pop early BKB fierce today on all this So you might be in a weird spot So I think XM Looks like he's in a better spot this time around the DP. He played really well on it He was like 8 and 1 at some point. Yeah, it was huge. It's just you're still a death profit against drow storm like There's not much you could do to really carry that game over the edge Whereas I think Queen is a little more consistent in those late games in areas So if he has the same trajectory as he didn't game one except on this hero It's gonna be a little more difficult to stop this time around And that potential as well to have avalanche against the tough to kind of stop snowball saves make that come into play Rolling Thunder plus avalanche could be pretty nice here early lane stage going back booms away very strong lane stage team all three of their cores doing pretty well storms getting his regen burned a bit from the daggers spam but GBK CS really well these early waves so you should be chilling with some extra water and some all that down a bottom back to the clear that is in Q support win ranger some things are usually on the opposing side and save brings out from time to time. Save on the hoodwind, giving it a sheer overshipping down at this tiny. I'm really putting in some nasty damage early on here. Tiny just getting shunned with the high people. We're all with a chisel, breaking him down piece by piece. Well, three minutes in, we're still looking for GPK to make him move to the water room, but he doesn't want to commit. Knowing that XM has the potential to blink, chase, contest, and walk back to the other one. Is that aggressive? Force is a defensive blink and now we can go for Water Room. That's very close. It's still a spirit fire. It'll trade out here and wait pushing into XM, so... It's all in position around the Viet. Let's take it up to here. Okay, let's sentry down to block the small camp. Lurk into a lurking tree, you know, you're very familiar Gary What is me and Lacoste now hiding in the bushes? Watching you and Cap learning how to catch, well that's how they do it. I guess I do, you just throw your partner in the bus, it's funny as hell Be nice isn't funny, you gotta be mean sometimes I'm the punchy back there you are. I didn't know that was me, it was lurking that bad. It's factual. Or if you're like lurking for an ice cream truck or something. Yeah, lurking for information. Oh, you're a football coach. Lurking, watching the team, the little matches. Lurking behind someone doing scrims. Watching for that match data. Hold on, we don't want to go there. Dirty history in the ALS of Dota 2. 1, 2, 4, 22 and 2. I don't know, okay, time down here. Oh, Shiro, every time I look top, He's half HP or less, being shoved out of lane by this little squirrel. They can't get the Equilibrium. He's been a nightmare trying to fight this hoodwink on the side. That was an ambitious pushback, considering there's no trees there. Almost got him though. He has a lot of regen to play with on this squirrel. Early range drops for Miro and save on this lane. Always nice against the Lich. You're getting stick charges as well. So why is he just not able to trade too efficiently right now? And they're going to get the stick pop out of Shiro, so they can basically sweep you out of regen on this top lane. And that move was one of all three lanes! Ah, they're cruising to an early lane victory here. Bark is getting hammered bottom. Fantastic. And we're taking down to about half. So now he's within that threshold where another go on him could potentially kill him if he misuses that bushbuckle. GQ's looking for the big kill. Does land the power shot? No sonic wave yet, though. Kind of an offered time to make this move. Do you really want to bring GVK down before he's almost 6? But he just played this lane super well. Wow, can Able thrown in? This is pretty ambitious. And I mean that Casseron is gonna cross, they've got a bush back on the Queen of Pain, Jinkyu's being body blocked by the Thust, Sharded, and then he's sent on the Tower. And she first kills a GPK to come up, and then Rune's gonna be guarded, with an Aesthetic Wave to XM jump this, because he didn't have enough damage with that Ultimate. Now has to defensively blink back behind his Tower. And that was the worst case scenario. Didn't get that Gank, lost that kill to GPK, he had the raindrop anyway. And then he wasted Sonic Wave, now you have to go to base with your Queen. How'd you lose the rune? And you lost the power, so you basically just ganked four of that boom there. Pretty big disaster on this big wave. Did you have Bac alone bottom? Is he red dead? Nope. He'll be a big kill. He's fine, though. Power shot? Is he gonna go for it? Nope. Sad. He's dead. That's how he's made his way over. So, GPK. 25 seconds before Wisdom's trying. I'll see you Bac. Just four little pangalir. He's got the ones charges for a squash buckle. Try to control him up. If that shot will fair him across, I'm just trying to get a bit of a gap here. I hope he's a little white, but we did lose Y over on the other side. He's got turrets. Yeah, we're looking to do a cat early, but my shot blocks. Swash over the top of them with a power shot landing. Yeah, well played, Tusk. Very patient there with the spells, just holding that squash buckle so you can't shards. And, but boom, running out of damage. The kid did not want to commit the full mana pool, felt like they were not going to get the kill, so. Nice little turn off, they're not making something out of nothing in this game. As suddenly... Gary, the highest net worth core out of this entire lane phase is the Pangolier. Really? You would not have guessed that, would you? No, I would not! Dawnbreaker was my number one, that's who I'd be going for. He's second, so he's having a great time. After that kill... Pango's mad chilling here. That's good stuff for back then. So, early defusal blade, faster level six. It's legend, the meme time zone, wandered into a dangerous zone of the map, but Queen of Pain, onto Shipee K, who spent his entire mana pool to fight Queen of Pain. XM always gonna have it up! Oh, Snowball missed! They get him inside the bubble, save him up, and now back away! Powershot doesn't finish him off, he's tanky enough to withstand this dagger, gets on the tower to survive. So close! That's where... You're supposed to bait it, to bait the Snowball. And he threw at the snowball pretty early, and I think XM felt that, uh... Storm was just too far away to get pulled in, because he was... He looked like he was not gonna get pulled into the snowball. Because there is that radius on it. And I think XM felt, okay, he's not in range, I'm just gonna truck it out. He had to pump fake it here though, in the end. It comes up cool down here. I was like, right here, you know he's in the snowball. Oh! You don't even have to pump fake it, he was already throwing out. Maybe you die if you don't throw it out too. So you don't left steal it out? Yeah, I think he might have died before that snowball ended. So maybe you're just screwed either way, but that was one second coming up on that song way hurts you so much here That's now two sonic waves wasted death on Queen of Pain what active runes for bed boom Grinding out some small ones here in the early game This game could really be going each his way if the co-op was no longer off of those two failed kill attempts So it's making a big difference here It's really great for them that the pango is having a game because now a lot rest on his shoulders do something for this early level six I doubt he's gonna rotate out of lane, but he could start playing into this bottom lane. Maybe kick character chow here Where does not hero that enjoys being shoved out of lane? Target good target the pressure for sure if you bring the co-op down here if you're giving mid to this one ranger who? Didn't really do anything in the early game needs a couple levels here And fast refusal and definitely bring this line up together There is that go on the wind ranger man. I'm shocked you there's plenty of damage And they're also looking for the plus one. Caton is going to go all the way in behind Tier 1 Tower. TY attacks him and shards with the long as it is in GPK. Level 5 lich, down he goes, and another snowball there to get away from an exotic wave play. Korea down those. Caton loses that and finally backers a ride. A rolling thunder getting sidestep by the tusk. He'll inevitably die though as XM picks up the kill. Still reacting, defensive posture from Beachy Gaming and losing out. it was another power into the storm too it's a region now perfect timing for GPK these beach yields they're just not landing that's only doing work here early with the snowball a great snowball game as long as you're not caught in that avalanche there's a lot to dodge here a lot of projectiles getting thrown out from beachy all the quaff spells the power shot some of the lich spells you know like a pango swatch you just like sorry guys you know I just called me I gotta go like this. You made me play with a Ranger in this game, what's going on? My cock caught land and he spells. He's used to Aume calling early GG, but she's not on that team anymore. He's already done. Oh, we're still playing. Obviously back down, but man's down. Let me get some levels, please, boys. I'm gonna swing down the bottom and keep playing with that pango. Let me try and connect the Queen of Pain down here. I think I can. I'll have to cure it. This is the biggest point of attack. They can find this more at least once or twice in a row, even if it's gonna feel whole. Let me try and connect the Queen of Pain down here. Okay, I'll get onto QoT. This is the biggest point of the attack. They can find this more at the least once or twice a million, it's going to feel a lot better. This is the hero you want to slow down earlier while she's still trying to farm off the lead. The Saber's coming here preemptively though, with us from the Guardian on to back. Oh, brutal. Oh, this move that Vici gave me was setting up is just turned on his head. He forced it a little too much. He's really close to the fusel too. And that storm that longs it over the two supports, VPK basically is trailing two of them, has a little more mana pool left with wand and soul ring to get the double kill of the keratin to chase on the shink here now, a sudden ravelling of itchy gaming. Yeah, it really is. An uncoordinated force move, too early on the jump, just gets mega punished with this dawnbreaker coming in on top, which you have to play in for and expect. That has to be a full team cohesive play with rolling thunder up with tiny coming in the gate. Yeah, none of those things are there. So what's your gameplay here? You're also 150 off this diffusal. Why force that play before the fusel before tiny ziplow takeoff before you have sonic weight before you have rolling thunder leg? Those are those little things that make a huge difference They already feels desperate. I feel it slipping away. You know, maybe X times calling guys I need something to get me back in the game. Let's go make a play right now Not an ideal situation for them and another situation that everyone were like, okay, nice We react we can set ourselves up around the subjective then go back to playing the map All these camps for Miara. Dawnbreak is gonna get huge, as if she wasn't already. Another power room. Is that all of them so far? I think so, yeah. Nazi XM pick up Miara. And down at bottom, Barth, he's gone for this rolling thunder. Lich, level 6, trying to get towards Kiritich, but a nice noble turnaround. Back onto the pankolare with Storm arriving. They'll get them where to finally with a sheer of twin gate play, and XM has come into the double cat home in GPK. Sonic Wave, pushback, Popsi Illusion, who has stormed the drone, zip it out! But Bakken Shiro, hot on his tail, will jinque you there! Shackle shot. Not gonna lack to put anything behind it, but he passed the Popsi Fall Ring. I'm gonna leave Shiro to have him Jim down. That was... I feel like that's exactly what I talked about should have happened the first time. You bring the Tine through the gate, you have your old thumb, you start off with a rolling Thunder, and we can see it. Way simpler fight. They're favorite of these exchanges if they bring everybody together with the power of the spells here in your league. That botch move before really negates the value of this convergence here. Still, nice move for VG Recon in this game and kind of gives him what they wanted, which is an attack on that weak lane. You take the tower, you get the more it's a kill. No solar guardians to defend it. Yeah, Miro's super farmed here, but I don't think you're too concerned about him getting outwards. You're much more concerned about the storm snowballing or the more it's a having to have some free farm here. You're willing to concede some Dawnbreaker GPM here. Totally fine. And then with that tier 1 bottom being killed off, Morita sometimes struggles to nestle herself into a position where she can just keep on farming. That's why they've sent both supports to sit in front of Kiritich. Tosca and Hoodwing ready for the second or the third strike for Vigie Gaming. Pull into the large camp and get cleared out. GBK and Gnav. Continue through that mid lane. 10 seconds till the next active rune, and see if Exxon finally gets his hands on one. This is where Vichy came in, gotta be careful with how they approach things, because if they dogpile onto GPK and try and get one of these kills, install a Guardian with a snowball, you could do their undoing. Nope. No power rune for you Exxon. Try and buy one next game. Jk's behind in that left side. He's spent a lot of time running around. He died in that fight bottom. His CS is not the highest it could be here. He just prioritizes his own farm. So it's definitely been shut down a little bit. J's good news for Vici because this dawn storm combo is a little more predicated on the storm's strength than the dawn's. I would say, not by any margin, but it hurts. We're all in the runner. Let's hop-skipping and jump back up the staircase. I start thinking about this next round of items. We're looking of course tusk, thinking about Blink Dagger. Over a thousand gold away. Renovate us on this hoodwink. A little bit further. Instinctior map hack. Save your report on somebody in this game. Honestly, this tiny Shadow Blade is always the big item for me to look for. Once he has that, go through a twin gate, slide an angle, get a kill on a core. That's what Shiro's banking on now and some farms towards it. It's just not a super obvious move after that twin bottom goes down. Very hard for that boom to go top as a team, so they just have to stall and break her up there. up there. I'll let Miro chunk this tower down and continue farming it up. He's getting really fat, but like I said, the tiniest match in it, you will have a fast shadow play here. And then at that point, you can ramp up the pressure. I don't think you're going to find much in this interval of your Vici just trying to swim around the river with your queen of pain. It's just not happening. You don't have the long range catch here. I'm trying to keep tabs on Kiritich, but he's putting himself in a good defensive position running the GPK. Today, I'm going to clear out the mid wave. They get him a power. Finally, that's a big one as well. Really nice rune here, especially Ky already up, plus they didn't damage that. That sonic wave hurts, man. Definitely make a collapse onto this tournament, next point of attack here if you want to bring the pango. You should kind of wait for that timing to also be able to converge to have the confidence to do that. You are going into a very farmed dawnbreaker that is going to counterplay you. You go aggressive into the side of that boom. I think VG's read of this is just a little off, they're trying to find some sort of action but they need to understand that this beckham lineup is going to protect them or they're going to just be huddled in the jungle because they have to dawnbreak and back them up. They don't have obvious aggressive moves of their own. You just have to be patient here far onto the next set of items especially when your your Tiny comes online and then you can make some small plays and look for the scout spot. These casual services are not going to come your way and you're likely getting outranged in them anyway. I'm going to catch a Miro at least. That's a good catch. This is always going to be the isolated hero for that. Really nice find here. There's your shadow blade entry. Here it is throwing a spout back down the bottom. That's a great find. That's a great find. Training off laner for off laner. Yeah. I guess for Vici Gaming they're looking at a repeating success, right? They're playing in that bottom right corner. So I use a twin gate threatened with a tiny Now that the tiny is a threat the game can speed up a lot for the Close the map off you can bring me into the place Try and take some big plates with the big old T's I should have him had set up so nicely with double of the Observer was watching the bottom lane so they knew all the access points were covered D word in the river to still one pretty good dire work. It's really jungle I'm finally climbing towards mid. Tiny, already in-viz, but Barker is the one to get started on. I mean, it's held back there, so now if that put him in that early warding system, with the hook link in the tusk of Spidey's incoming, he'll retreat past the dart ward as they lose that mid lane tower. Time for a feature to work for some stuff. Hunt is on. I'm trying to catch up here and press forward through the little river. Chats are on me. He's gonna say hello at the park. Push lag. The toss back. Get the outlash though! Nicely done by Shearer to put them both together. Yeah, ward paint dividends. It's gonna time out by the finish job. Now this tiny is a big threat in this game. Cannot give this hero extra kills like this right when he gets that Shadow Blade. Just let him snowball out of control. Full harpoon already done. He's a massive threat to the support duo. Talked about the power of the Tusk in this game, but if he gets found early by the Tiny, that's his worst match up here. That's such a blow to that boom in any of these fights. Because now there's a bit of a man scrambled a member gift to BKB. Just finished off the Clio Sands on Storm. We've had an Echo Saber over on the doorbreak for a while, so he's going to try and shift that into a BKB now. It does finish it. But the character just mutter in a Dragon Lance, Maelstrom, these incremental items slowly building up. up and accelerate, which is nice as a carry, but you don't have that defensive tool right now to protect you against some insane jump of a tiny. So I think Kiritich is going to be pretty quiet for the next few minutes. They're just smoking to defend Kiritich, pushing out a wave, like they're so scared of where Shiro is right now. And that's the mind game, he's not even there, he's just farming golems. He's a little like, where's Tiny, where's Qwap, where are they? He's slurping a mojito on the beach right now. Are they gonna go for a taunt? So they smoke down here, defend heritage, play into the bottom right hand corner Maybe they thought the Vici gaming will try and take it, because they're set up for something They're just again trying to kill the hero that pushes the lady I'm punching Q Got a glimmer Right in there with a vortex on the ATOS It's not the damage to dump on the Windranger I will say his Windranger has been absolutely useless this game We'll see if he has impact later, but he has a done shit That's true For me for that boot I mean also the highest impact play he made this game was he gained himself for GBK So that was nice. Well done Was that I'm damaged time? That is terrifying. He's a large boy. There's no one down here This is gonna be a wisdom trine spawn though if you want to camp it out. He's not risking it. Often you find a dull breaker over there, but maybe this way. Let's go to the side. So Shero instead can go for a tower. Didn't get the last hit with 400 plus damage. Little embarrassing area, I don't know. What are these guys doing, man? Pro players just hate blasted in these towers. How many of you tried? How many of you tried to do that on purpose that's difficult? That was hard to miss. It's like throwing water in the ocean. Yeah. Very hard to miss. Link tang's up for cat's army. Extra level of save. It can make it difficult. I think she's gaming. Don't get that start with a tiny. And now it's Bedboom lurking around this mid lane. They're in the bushes. Caps up the observable to place down that top jungle area. And Mero. And that's a BKB. That's pretty early. Top is engaging. I'm going to go for the TP out. See ya. Oh, there goes your smoke game. There's a lot of information for Bedboom though. So an Arcane rune grabbed by GPK Storm. and the entire top lane, top jungle all belongs to them. There's a quick flow from Vici, wanting to reposition on the map and playing into their observables they placed earlier on. They've seen Keratich and Cata only, but they can't quite get there. They've read the move and they've fallen back after clearing the camps. Man, the initiations are hard in this one. No damage. They've got no storm, no clockwork, they're nothing. That's something that Bebu always has, it's some form of goat. I mean, they do have the storm, but it's not Vici. Yeah, the Storm's afraid to jump in this game and Heechi has Windranger Lich with no frontline stun other than their one position, so it's kind of on Shiro to make stuff happen and he's also the carry's the best to keep farming. Just one of those games, man. Everybody's kind of chilling, hoping you win late. We win late, right, guys? Sure, right? Well, I'm looking at that. We win late, honestly, but that's more out there. I don't know, I kind of... I like this tiny quad combo. Let's go do some work here if you let it get truly stick-slotted. I'm sure it's about to hit a DKB. It's giving me more opportunities to play forward. Imagine a world where Vici Gaming are like, oh, we've got to go and do something, but like, Betboom Farm, and then we have these situations where they're spread out, looking for initiations. You get bogged down in these reset tools from Betboom. boom with a sonic wave you don't land your avalanche for you to crack a few jokes and you crack a few beers you know sit back what the game come to you as they say in your lawn chair your arm chair back and relax that's no for it though they're relaxing for them Last against the Europeans though, run at your opponents, find the tiny, force the beast that are on the beachy, and then craft the skill room. It's all about the ruins. Now the speachies start to fail initiation and run away. Oh, I gotta get a snowball. Save up this hoodwink, TP cancelled by the power of your flow. You died. Taking out YGQ, that's the impact out of the Windranger. Hell yeah. Looking for a move forward with Shiro tumbling down to low ground doesn't get the connection, but a cool little move from them That's why you don't get Jinkyu his signature win ranger right there Because your four positions to get tonight the 24 minutes from his first impact on the game Can we bring up the hero damage because I've had Jinkyu is destroying this chart right now By destroying I mean he's got to be at the bottom. Ash, 5-4-5, okay. That must be a tight build There's no way. What direction the real number is? 1.5? That's glitch, dude. I think it's like a thousand. That's one point. There's one digit to the right. When did he ever do anything or say anything? He's been ganked four times, and that's it. What's the other thing? He's clicking people in lane? Also, I'm not sliding him. He's my... he's literally my favorite player. I just think it's hilarious that sometimes you end up in these games where you want to play some cheeky hero and like there's nothing going on. Well, that's how it goes. There's a way for the game to develop. just play for some clutch shackles later maybe get that shard up. Nice game for the shard actually. A really annoying spell on some of these lamps that want to play around a carry that really wants to maintain its positioning like a Martha. If you can like drag her in a little bit or something. It's pretty annoying. Ah perfect, plus it's timing. Put her into the wall. Thunder. There's the BKB for this storm. So maybe that's when we're gonna get a little more confident here with their aggressive jumps they have triple VKB in fact they definitely should get more aggressive here but you just take your triple VKB timing and get ages so little little bit of a struggle here to make it work you see the gen come out as well they are really gonna look to take some map control during this window. And this dude is gonna be triple VKB on VGGaming, tiny, sure as his Queen of Pains gonna have hers and Pango just of course naturally has and onto the spell which could be... he is could be here rolls on up dead easy go for that boom, letting Vichy Gaming have the Roshan just for Tiny but shiro across the river all the way to hunting shadowblade down here but the defensive posture from that boom just standing on high grounds playing very shallow on their side of the map they really don't want to give anything to this Tiny not even a whiff of a hero everything is ready green lines across the board and no shit everything's ready the difference is still about one game that's a graph of my EKG right there. Flatline. This one. Gonna poke him. Somebody do something. Pulls the game until I have to go. The irony is I think in most situations, the team that gets a little frustrated does try to do something, often just... it's a bad thing. So that is faith in like it. I don't know if it feels comfortable. matter sometimes if you're stuck in stalemates like this. At least you have the comfortability of knowing you're pushing towards something in the later five years. That's what it's, you're like Queen of Pain gives you. Oh, that's not about to hit that BKB. What early shark too, that's kind of interesting. That boob, all five up here. Kind of dangling the Mero Dawnbreaker in front of them, see if I can get it. I don't know why, nothing happened in this game. No one's going for this. You've set the trap, but there's nothing to catch. TPK and Keras, they're just, oh come on, what are you trapping like I'm going for? It's like setting a trap, bearing desert. Catch a tumble. Electric is pushing waves. Oh look, it's Chiro. Oh, he's got him! One more hit. Oh, nice. I was in my passenger. I would say he's still as ages for a minute and a half but I don't know if he just matters right here. I haven't said different than that word. There's been a loss in that word. But he's just power play. I like to jump here. I said he might get jumped here, boy. There we go. Ah, he's been jumped. He's been jumped here. He's here, right? He's gonna get forced away. Rolling Thunder in onto Kiritich now. Beppermint trying to reset with the BKB's up. I've got a cat on the storm. The rolling Thunder of the Tiny Damage is not enough. The dorm break, it comes in and helps him out. Save GPK. Cat on him in the meantime. meantime he's been focused down but she was back there they'll get a kill on the tusk now fighting oh he's got a flyer he's so greedy the two-man jump somehow he gets there why don't you talk about them forcing BKB TP out of this door breaker and I'll save the bushwhack I'll hold them back Cheryl is tired of a massive threat on the map they recovered Jim right did they I think not. I ended up getting it there. I didn't see it on anybody. Okay, save, how do we end up with it? So they did save the gen out of that, which is really important, it's a tiny, it's probably a bigger deal there. But damn, I guess GBK just got walled in security. He's like, that's another fight where only a support dies, nothing's happening this game. He has to go hit new trills on 200 HP. Joke's on you, somebody tiny is blinking in. He's dying on this age of timing. Maybe you think you've put him low enough that it's not going to go in for more? The solar garden is cool here, but it's like a great pushback. Defensive BKB out of Marta, forced the TV home. You have to respect that your Marta's scaling up despite playing around here. So, just sacrifice the Tussans to get out. GPK's like, I'm going to need those starters. Oh, shit! I thought you legitimately went to kill him. Oh, he's back in it. Oh, he's straightening on towards the ledge! GBK... trying to find something here with Gata only's aura spine spare. Onto Y with a nice... swipe out of save. And now Shiro misses the avalanche, doesn't connect on the tusk. Sheriff's himself to open up with the damage. GBK with a PKB looking for Shiro, but he's out there with Invis. No reveal remaining in our bar. Helped out by XM on the staircase to take that Gata only's tusk. Well, it might be in trouble. She's being defended. Yeah, there's full resources and they don't want to try and break fast, huh? Man, these fights are sloppy. Just spells being thrown around, just people going for different targets. No real hard chain disabling until we're gonna focus this hero down. Just too much mobility, too much survivability when he gives these in this game. Just a mess. It feels like every time there's a huge amount thrown out and each team loses a support that just shows. So at some point, you gotta take a stand, and it's probably next to Roshan here. It's just better than never being able to play the map as they want. Like Mero can't stand and farm that left-hand side, push out top wave, farm jungle, sit back. Like I said, don't have that, like, nicks or whatever to go forward, clockwork to start things out. Tusk is playing like a reactive fog hero, right? He's looking for the saves. Woodwind's playing behind one of these heroes next to Karrot there. Indirect threat of this Tiny. You know, the map really. Yeah. It's the biggest factor here. Oh, they got a sharp villain here. Look at that. That's nice here. I'm trying to drag some of these heroes into a worse position against the Queen and the Tiny. Feels super good. And if you can get to the Quaff bags, this game will change a lot. Really powerful bags in a game like this where you're having trouble bursting heroes, but you can wear them down. Win those long fights. It's a big item though, Daedalus on the right side. GpK is getting close to Nullifier. Oh man. So what? Nullifier, Windrun, Frostheal. Yeah, very good against the supports here. It's mainly what you're looking at, just snipe out some of this backline because you're not sitting there man fighting the cores in this game. I'm comparing G-Game 1 much easier than RG-Gaming just to play through the tiny. There's no split-pushing, no spreading this map, trying to do different things in different places. Shira makes a call, says, hey guys, follow me! I found a guy. Just keep your eyes on the tiny. Should all go through him, including that Frost Shield. He is insanely tanky EHP-wise with the extra armor on him. Even as the unrelenting eye for Little extra slow resistance, which he already has in a way So it's up to like 67 70% slow resistance pretty nasty on this hero Very hard to stick on top of it if you want to disengage with the fight with glimmer force frost shield slow resistance. Good luck That's part of the reason he has zero dust in this game zero deaths in the series They're true never died on that loan droid despite being 20 years They're here and I've done it. That's what counts It looks great on the KG, it's a great KG hero actually. Use your feet and your goddamn brains out. He's just inbounded. It's like he was five and oh, what is this place all about? A godly gamer. They're losing game as well. Big ol' Hamster Bat Boom. Oh yeah, the AC. AC, nullifier, but it's VG Gaming making the smoke move. Storm Spirits, he's the Queen of Pain. Straight in there with the solar guardian. This is the chainsaw we were looking for. Gotta finally execute it. They lose faith to the tiny of the fact, But this is great for Bed Boom. When Granger might still be in trouble. I need to get away from Dawn while Kuretich, he's out with that too. There's the chainstone we want to see in this game. It all comes together. Kuretich does get zoned by Vig down to the pang on the backside, so... It's not a bat fight setup for Vici in that sense, however you can't bail your co-op out in a minute. You just have to bail. Not tank enough to survive the full combo. Good little pick off here. I've moved into the river and now perhaps into a Roshan? This is still contestable. Look at GVK! Snowballs save through the sinister gaze. But maybe the focal point here is this founcing chain for a slump that's only got to have a tiny comes in with a control! Goddamn, down they go! Take it, Rosh! There's no heritage. Power's all clipped in. I'm trying to catch up here, but... loses the gaff onto the smart stuff put him a cave and that's alright to reset she's also kinda worth it get out of here with the Aegis make sure that you don't have him i don't know if you had to lose the storm there gbk just overplaying his hand a little on this lich that is deceptively tanky with essence ring plus the solar press and he can pull you for some of that duration just get mana burn with the diffusel pango coming in on top of it of it use a lot of an on this aggressive play here should be gay even though the playing two pages though comfortable for Viggy gaming to get on the map shoved in mid playing Bolton this game feels a lot more comfortable for them to scale in I think that's why we're seeing them just played out a little slower they're not forced into any bad moves the the fights are not not as awkward for them. Nice timing slaps now. Oh yeah, Daedalus done. Oh, there's an ant damage too. That's a surprise attack. They've got a lot of very good reactive tools, but if they could get this avalanche aura, it would be so good. They have nothing against the tiny entries. Like no one can take this combo. They've got one full staff on hoodwink. Solar Guardian. I'm not saying these are... The worst glimmer of hurricane, like, pretty much all you have against that. Not gonna be able to snowball the target, so... The potential for Miranda to die before they get a chance to react. You know what they say about carrying a big stick. Don't drop it. Oh, I know. Yeah, don't drop it. That's it? Yeah. That's kind of weak. Yeah. You don't want to lose your big stick. It's wise words of a turn-lan-be. I mean, he wanted you to drop it. He wanted because he did not have things he didn't have one. He wanted you he wanted mine carry a small stick You got dropped the small stick and give it to him Well, now you don't want to give someone else your big story. That's a little weird, but you can give them your small one Yeah, you can give the small okay, but then you should give them your nut to you pass the nuts around as well Yeah, just farted for some nuts and drop it on the floor That's a really nice maneuver if you want to get reported in pubs It's just eat all your nuts Still doing the choreo. Oh, is it going? Oh my god, Kyrothich! He survived! He does stay alive! And now the snowball with the solar guardian? Or is he still gonna die? He just claimed Jaffa in the meantime. Windranger finished off by GPK, while Kat only gets handled by Shiro. Buy back out Windranger as they're rolling thunder. Connect onto Kyrothich. VP out, and there's no BKB. No chance of survival. The end for AT. Game's looking rough, then. I thought this pioneer was gonna take a lot more damage in that combo. They can't do everything on him. Including pierce the veil including solar guardian, and then he came out of all that needs just like two-thirds HP You're like, oh shit This is like fuck. I go well They just do not have damage for shero in this game and he has damage for them Especially popping out in damage out of the bottom Just don't meet people And now you're without more than 50 seconds I'm gonna roll in behind tier three. Okay hypnotize back this dorm breaker That's pretty low though, there's damage coming in fast from Miero and GPK, but not enough to finish him off. Very significant utility coming out from the supports here on the side of the G.G.G. They are just keeping Chiro alive in all these situations. It looks like maybe he goes down, he gets Glimmered, he gets forced out, he gets full requested, he gets Froschield. There's a lot to get through, you only have that nullifier duration to do it. And it's not what I'm clearly just telling you, it's quite though, but before it's really begun... Is where I was talking about this matchup, if the Tiny starts on the Morta, it doesn't really matter if you kill him or not. You're gonna force him to pop a lot of his commitment early, and then you just kite away, because you have all that flow that has resist. He can't lock onto you. The fight's basically over at that point. Here it's just sort of had to have found an insane amount in that EKB pierced the veil of low HP. To do anything in that situation, and Vici can just say, hey, let's kite it out, wait it, re-initiate. Too easy for them right now. That's what we like to say, shot-balling. I'm in the mid laner, in GBK with a BKB trying to catch a hero with a solid guard in, but Betboom just not fast enough to chase him. He's just a level 25 by the way, already, double toss charges online, so I think he can 100 a zero kill if he finds him, with like one or two big crits going in. He will just build any hero in the game right now with a double toss charge. That's what Tonya does. Gee, she's game right now. I'm going to be here in the driver's seat. This work is in his twin gate. GBK could be in trouble if he shows on that lane. Gonna be trouble even if he doesn't. He's on the run. It's a dangerous world. For a Storm Spirit, I guess what is Storm Spirit? It's like a human raccoon. human raccoon There's a pandaradot one right? Yeah, it was a storm panda originally I guess it's just a panda But I feel like you got more into something else at some point because like the IP was Conferred or something like great King, you know, it looks a bit more feline now than ever did yeah Maybe he's like a red pandaradot. I guess we have the red panda on troop air though He's like what what's Earth's spirit? It's rock man Statue boy is literally her I mean what is he well he was meant to be a panda too wasn't he first spirit I guess technically they were all pandas maybe not I mean what's a pandas are pandas real I've never seen one the pandas don't exist just saying is you've ever seen one hmm it's just flax in a suit isn't it I mean there are certain animals that are that don't exist to other ones you're about like a pandas never seen a whale so they just don't know that okay here's the jump Gary cast it oh no he's gone he's blinked away uh... Bach? he's rolling in off the cathode I mean oh goodbye man it's like a scramble all the way from this this is so hard to play glimmer and piked trying to dodge away from this rolling thunder is he thinking about turning and fighting this? so dangerous when Shiro could make another jump Nice, they're just so hard for them. No matter what happens, somebody is just getting whacked by time. He has a full squeeze point now. Brother is not going to be a fuck-up. That's all I can say. We're just looking at the next items with fed boom and what do they do? If they still play it on his dawn break, it's more control, but it still feels like they're having damage to break through Tiny. Do you need more vision mechanisms or ways to tank the Tiny like A on this? We can enter the fight a bit better or just stronger chain initiation like hex. And you're going to say, okay, we're going to find this guy when he enters the fight. Yeah, maybe he kills like our Tusk or something, but then we can jump Hex'em all in him. You have to all insure at some point with a nullifier connection. It's just so hard to get there. Now you're going to break past this XM backdoor. Very good. And he gives the backline, rolling thunder with his blink screen. Gem on the Queen of Pain, offering a lot of counter vision as well, so there's very little chance for Beppu to keep observables up. Trying to figure out where they want to go though, okay, G. Playing through Twin Gate back and forth. We'll look for that Roche and Fast spawn. And we're at the half. As Beppu see the tiny bottom, they're just going to concede tormentor here. Their smoke is not really heading towards anything unless Roche needs to spawn. Could have worked out for them in terms of that map table. Instead they will concede a shard to the timing. Stiffing on the gate, seeing if anyone comes through the door. Ain't no one going through that door, I'll tell you what, that's a... dorky or grave right there. And tipping back to TF3 Tower. It's gonna get smoked from Ichi. They do not want to concede Roshawn in this game without a fight. He didn't bought a Vlad on his Windranger. I got just buffing Shiro playing through him. I like this, this is a much more concentrated idea from each enemy's log angle. It's all flowing through the tiny right now. One chef. One shot cooler. Chef Shiro. Get ready and cook. And he's cooking. A recipe for success here on the dawn breaker. Or does he? GBK allowed Miero to actually separate now tiny. Wow! In a second, it's all gone wrong. He burnt it. Burped to the crisp as Katomi Yes, he's gonna die to spy on that chainfrost, but mirrors keep on going. Fuck, being contended with by saving GPK while this poor little lich is taken down by Dawn, pango shredded by GPK, characters that finally arrive in another flurry of spells, and, bad boom, they find it! There was no utility to bail him out. He couldn't reset, and he didn't get the double tosser. I don't know if they- he didn't want to commit for the full burst, I feel like he didn't have the damage up to the honor, maybe he's gonna buy back and come back into the fight. But it was a little hesitation, a little misplay, whatever you want to call it, no double toss, no full control there. And he just doesn't get stunned by anything else, and there's no bailout here. Look at this again, I mean... There's no ballast in for Cousin. He stunned the Windranger and the Claw going in, so there's no follow-up shackle, and then GQ, he ran BACK instead of forward. Which is reasonable, but that means by the time he tries to get in here to force that to tie in, we're glimmering? Too late! So a really sick reef, I'm not that only there absolutely broke that light up killed the utility That gives you time to kill that tiny Such a big difference You're so often we see that I've been waiting for these double saves, but instead playing the interference aggressive style We got all the gold off that tube sets a big streak is a monster kill streak all to save the squirrel collected Some nuts here here. Of course He's also on a 25 now and he took the link cooldown pretty interesting here with the Octorine that goes down to 3 seconds flat with the silence on top so you can just kind of like change the house people in the fight. Pretty nasty stuff. I mean Sonic Wave damage is the preferred talent just because it's so overwhelming. But I think it used to be more popular when you could go refresher and have the little plus double sonic wave and then it's a little more tempting now i think it's a little less tempting maybe we'll use californ we could definitely just ruin backlines with the constant blink screaming you gotta kill that whatever you do try and fly these damn bat boom heroes they do not get rush off that one team fight though because the timing didn't align so that was the big deal here now you're gonna have to fight and try and kill this tiny again secure the subjective We did it once though, we had some confidence. GPK! Right onto the ledge and now, we're late enough in the game here, just enough to get the solo kill. Actually, I'm not happy about that one, to chase. He definitely wanted to chase with his little mana pool here. I don't know about that Gale pool, since he didn't care to hit you with the box. He's almost the reason I'm back with him again. I can't connect. Because he's here, it was like lurking, trying to come up the staircase on the other side. There's a lot of lurking in this game. There's a lot of new waiting. Trying to peek an attempt. I'm gonna smoke out of that boom, put them again in a position where they can just hold the staircase. Wait to see what comes their way. What's that, anyone with the guy with the stretch neck? Pause champ? Is that what it is? You wanna talk about? Yeah. It's like a pu- uh, yeah, they added to PogChamp, force- Yeah. I feel like if you've been doing that for this game, you're next, bro, you're fine. Ha ha ha ha ha! They just like, wait, ooooh! Something's gonna happen! It is 20 against 20, with almost no lead, very close game. 47 minutes in. And they just- Killing each other's wards on the exact same spot. All that's gonna change in this game. Imagine being Roshan in this game, hearing all the loud noises, clattering and banging outside your little apartment. What the hell's going on outside? We've got a PKB on GQ that was his item of choice Guaranteed to get in there and have to Exempt oh, what's violent? Blinked right in the middle of three of them barked the follow-through looks follow him here as Miro has to back away They've got shiro in but he has to retreat doesn't get the full catch of the heritage You know blinks out of box range use pierce the bail though Save Let me back into tree line while they still a garden GBK they're onto bark Another roll up though as Syro comes in. Nice kill with Catherine dying down in the river too for nothing so far. Miero trying to do what he can with a star breaker but surrounded and rolls right. Sick rolls for Faith Beyond. He had that refresher up his sleeve. It's just so much rolly thunder time this hero's so big. It's so stupid. Then he gets the job done. Greats so much space that the tiny sails of this age come back in. The quaps able to disengage off the bayon dysproc with the solar guardian coming in you pop pierce the bale so early you don't have a refresher of your own great fight from bg avian and i have to kill tiny twice i mean good one okay he's gonna waltz up to your high ground it's also means he might even just be able to go on cure titch and if he pops pierce the bale he doesn't have to kite you just let their man fight him yeah and take the risk of like maybe i crit you twice and you dive of you know before you get If you do get it off, maybe you killed me with my team's killing you and I'm gonna respawn. Gives you a lot more freedom to play around this whole team. Now you think you're a turret moronser? Watch this. Sound. No, that's just tiny, bro. It's smackin' your base. A whole full at rest. Yeah, this makes that my pot. Yeah, just perfect positioning. Just gets out, so that's the Lord Guardian, no pull, and then re-engage and now the fight's over. So stick play for him. Right in the corner of that little cliff. Look what's happening on the back line. Nice Jackal from GQ. Brings out this Tuz. Cheris says thank you very much. Damn, Cheris did you fast to run the hell away. Well, Rishi gave me... Domineering now 11k lead, looking for this mid lane of Barracks. Nice to see ya. One melee gone. Tier 3 bottom. Max objective for them on the menu. You're not backing here until you get Bi-Bax. No Bi-Vax used, they're trying to go kill the tiny straight up with pure ditch, but a toss into the sky comes down with a nice grab-back like at homie, but he's a dead water. I don't kill tiny first-time back into this backline, almost killing off the hoodwink guy's own. He has a bit of health next to him, so they clear him out. They're gonna cheese up Shiro too, so all of that work. He's not. He comes to nothing. Yeah, but didn't have to spend Bivax, though. True, they get to save their big core Bivax here, they defend another lane. Something to hold on to. See how far BG pressed their advantage during this Aegis period. Definitely want to keep fighting here. You also have this Pango refresher coming up in 50 seconds, so you're going to have another double-rolling Thunder fight, which has just proven to be really nasty here for a lineup that doesn't really have anything for it. If the rest of the game doesn't go by, they'll go back to farming. Don't be taught to push that late. The time of farming hasn't. An industrial team now. No more agriculture. For the rest of the civilization here. We've stowed our seeds. Now's the time to reap our rewards. Beauty gaming, jump on the touch. Hero finds his man. Double cost and down you go. Double five actually. like Jerecich has disappeared? No by. Fees gone for a hundred seconds. Lych is gonna get clear down sure, but here I'm gonna stand here. Walloping into Bed Boom. Nice four-task, you just pulled back about the dive again. Jumped by XM and Vicky, gaming. Striking into this radiant base, looking for another layer of barracks. Too much overwhelming lakie firepower with this tripod. Barf refreshes, TPK zipped in. Could be problems for him if he gets clipped by anything, and that's a stun out of him. The blink interrolling thunder queues the storm out you go! Yeah, when it came from fake beyond, I absolutely jastamed his line up in the late game. I am the true carry. I always was. There's only one fake hero in this one. You're gonna let's bind back with boost of travel to come and finish off the game. I grab back in on this hoodwink, drags him into the danger zone, dead for a hundred, now he's down to storm and dawn breaker to get something out of this. Tieback had a ledge cool but GBK is getting blown up by the tiny. Has to get the fountain and have the tosses up, the doorbreak is falling. You're gone, four heroes dead. And Vici Gaming have free reign to just kill the throne. They still have her fresher short, they still have Aegis. There's a lot of firepower left in the tank. No buyback on that worth it, he was missing the gold for it. That'll steal the deal here as GG gets called. It's called, damn. Way more convincing late game here for Vici Gaming. I felt like we saw it coming. They had a lot more scale to play around with this time instead of that trawling ultimate trump card. What a game from that man right there flexing on him. Now it's a vintage faith beyond. She says, don't worry boys, let me handle this. And he had the best game early game of everyone too. First pick Pango, but first pick offline Pango came out of lanes the best. Had to play a really slow game where he didn't get to use his timings. Still, he just grinded that late game and then had some incredible team fighting there. I mean, that really was vintage faith down. I think that's what he is known for, at least in my eyes, is like, is he gonna dominate lanes? No, is he gonna crush you on the map? Not necessarily, but he buys the right items, always identifies the right items to play, and he's just a sick team player. Like, he just finds a way to maximize his impact, no matter what position he's in the game. If he's top-networked, he can carry them. If he's like fifth-networked, he can still have maximum impact into the fights. Shout out to Shiro on this tiny, though. He absolutely controlled that game. This is a terrifying hero to give later in that draft for sure. You have to keep your eyes on Titan here. He ends that game 13-1-6. What a beast. There's no damage to actually kill him off. So many situations they brought this Titan down to, you know, 100 HP, 50 HP. I able to force staff and glimmer him away from that danger. Yeah, I mean, how much damage did he take? You look at the breakdown here. Tons. See, Tiny. Damage received 63,000 and he died once. It's like so much wasted damage. Yeah, they tried to pump so much into him, but don't get it done. And that's Vici Gaming after Game 1, look like a vote of no confidence for them, but their strike back tight things up by heading to a Game 3 in a little bit. Things are remaining competitive in this lower bracket as elimination is on the line for both of these teams, and Vici Gaming are not going out with a whimper, they're going out with a sonic wave that missed, but it doesn't matter because they won regardless, clearly just building GPK up to just be overconfident in the storm spirit, and then they'll knock it down anyway. All part of their 5D test Master plan Masterful executes from here This game was really impressive Out of VG gaming I think they look so good when they're not limited By big cooldowns In that game 1, they were playing around They were dealing with the extra system And they felt kind of gimped on the map When they couldn't make use of these abilities perfectly This time around, they were the ones That had the ability to go in, to go out To reset, to pick and choose They had very good movement this game. With a lot of things that you said, I think also like their spell usage overall you had like fights later in the game where you know they preemptively lit shield and XM jumps in and he has like the Kunkas like run buff item that you know delays the damage you can just go in and be first. And I think Shiro as well on the tiny had a lot of like clutch plays where he gets the early shadow blade, he goes here he gets the kill, he's gonna go to another side and then get a kill. And just really building up, I think this time they also had a way nicer answer to like the Stormbreaker overall in Game 1, it was the Lone Druid, which was kind of, it's fine, but it doesn't really stop it, like the melee carries that protect themselves have always been very good against Dawn. And yeah, I think Chiro just being like the trendsetter and the starter in all these moves, which the game is even. So getting these kills, it really makes such a huge difference in some of these games. Yeah, I mean we were talking about the dawn old TV and just much harder to use in this game because when you have death profitability and doom going in It's like oh, yeah, we'll just use dawn old T now. It's very obvious. Yeah, but when you have a tiny going it's like Do I use the avalanche toss cooled out is like my reason for saving my teammates? So it did look a lot harder for me or to play that game despite the fact that his lane was really good Yes, number one now worth. I believe at 10 minutes in a lot of good early game plays by Beth Boone But I also just think Vici Gaming's draft was it scaled better But it also played easier and they did a great job this game And I agree with Mira don't limit yourself with those long cooldowns because they were clearly making or consistently making good place And shows that the team is capable of taking things at high speed now because this thing is going as a distance We also get a little bit of an opportunity to spend some time quizzing all of you at home Eaglyde viewers will notice that I'm maybe I may be wearing a little bit different. That's right my friends you've seen it time and time again at ESL events. We're doing a DHL drop for you which means it's quiz time. It's quiz time not just for my panelists but also you at home. I've got a suite of some Dota related questions that I would like to grill Kazoo and Brian on. gentlemen are you posted up let's make it happen let's make it happen we're ready make it happen with the DHL drop now friends the rules are simple I'm going to propose a question so don't related and you are going to select one of the four answers those of you at home also can type explanation the DHL drop A B C or D Casio Brian are you ready or is it who answers first I think I think it's a collaborative effort. It's a co- Oh, we're teaming. Okay, I would have, I would have destroyed you. So shut up. Okay. Please. I don't as a team game. I require cooperation. Oh, cool. All right, gentlemen, you're ready. Let's go. Let's get started with the first question. Which hero affectionately refers to Enchantress as their Auntie A? Who refers to Enchantress as Auntie A? Is it A, Crystal Maiden, B, Largo, C, Hoodwink or D Windranger? Why is it always lore questions? Because I've never heard this before, I'd go with Larger. I've never heard this Eden, he was also my first go. And he's on the screen. Yeah, he's on the screen as well. I feel like I would have heard these heroes like randomly say it. So the thing is, I play without hero voices, so if there's more of these, I'm cooked. Shen. I'm going for a Larger. You can picture like a Kiwi accent on TA? Yeah, I can hear, not it. So apparently it's not that one, you're trying to kill us. I'm theorizing with you guys. He's trying to distract. Yeah, this guy sucks. Maybe I don't even know the answer. We're going with Largo. All the Twitch chat agrees with it. They're picking Largo. If you agree with them, then you should do Exclamation DHL Drop, A, B, C, or D. Gentlemen, the correct answer is, in fact, Hodywink. No, I definitely knew that one. Yeah, I was testing. He's like a forest creature, you know? And Shantris is like the mom of the forest. These were hard options, because Windranger's kind of like a naturey, naturey as well. Crystal Maiden is of the elements. Perhaps you may notice a trend with all of our questions that kind of plays into our theme of the Dream League. Let's get to our second question. Trian Protector shares a word between his innate and one spell. What is the word? Is it A, Forest? Is it B, Seed? Is it C, Nature? Or is it D, Armor? Which word is shared between one of Tram Protectors spells and his innate? Do you know the name of his innate? I think that should be C. Is this innate, not nature's guys? I think so. I agree. Okay. Should be nature's guys. I think the end... It's hard for me to read, so it's forest seed... Forest seed nature armor. Yeah, because it's not... It's definitely nature's guys, his innate spell. We're gonna lock in C on this one. If they've changed the name of it when they moved it to innate, that's just unfair. What's the other nature spell? Because it's an innate and a spell what's it shared with eyes of force And well that's a chart so we're at name tree and spells. What's this cue? Nature's grasp. Okay. Oh, there you go. Oh my god. Oh my god. Lock in three See, let's see what the correct answer is it is see good job Remember you at home by keeping a competitive exclamation point DHL ABC or D. That's important guys important Because if you win, you may get some Dota 2 cosmetics and in-game digital items awarded to you. Next question! Everyone likes to win with style. Which hero has the most taunts in this list? Is it A. Nature's Prophet, B. Hoodwink, C. Enchantress, or D. Trian Protector? The most taunt. I feel like this is between A and C. I was going to say A, because C's already been the answer twice. I mean- Oh, you're going for like the grade school tech? Yeah, there's no way it's CC I mean not CC and see out here. It's you and I mean and she has a lot of she has tons But I only know her for like one or two where it's for profit. I know more than two I know there's at least two. Yeah, he's got like the there's gold bags. There's like him like break dance. Yeah Yeah, I work. I'm gonna go with a yeah, you happy with it. Yeah, that would have been my answer Nature's profit a let's lock it in and let's see the correct answer is a A, that's correct, he has the money bag one, wherever you kill the courier. He has the little jig, and then he has one where he plays his staff like a loot. I did not know about that one. Yeah, that one's the- I knew there were at least two though. Yeah. Subtle one. Next question, more spring related content. Dota's spring cleaning in 2018, eight years ago, introduced a which new feature? Was it A, chat wheel support, B, the legs and no legs hero tag, The Roshan's wheelbarrow, not sure what that refers to, I don't know, or the last hit training. Eight years ago. It's not A. Like just to be able to use the chat wheel. Chat wheel support, not A. No. Okay. I don't think so. Like that you were able to use the chat wheel, right? Like that's, that was there when I first played. Are you asking me for? What is the second? Second one is no legs, no legs hero tags. No, because I feel like if that was ever got introduced, that's like 15 years ago. Sure. That was a mean line. I feel like they added that and then haven't updated its sense. Yeah, I like going for the D2 so we're gonna lock in D Let's lock in those Ds last hit training the correct answer is In the last training I'm impressed gentlemen. I'm impressed One last question. What are we waiting me if we make it the current that we have one now You're not typing in chat. You need to be typing exclamation DHL drop. Where's your phone? Where's my computer? You're getting you're just getting getting the twitch chat right now I was not told that my answers would not be officially logged well You're guiding all of the helpless souls out there. We're guiding humanity to you You guide others to a treasure that you cannot possess that's fair, okay? It's doing it for the greater good heavy response. It is a heavy heavy is the head that wears the flower crown of all of our spring related questions Show me the very last question Loan drew it is a rarely truly alone But how often can he summon his trusty bear? Is it a 120 second cooldown be a hundred and eighty second cooldown see 90 second Cool down or D. 60 second cooldown me it used to be be and now it's a Used to be three minutes and now it's two minutes is what you're saying. Yeah I mean, I know it's a because the I remember with the old talent It was 95 seconds. Yeah, it has to be a meal. We're locking that 25 this 95 in EU is 120 In America, that is also 95 plus 25 is 120. But it takes us like five more minutes to kill him. He lives in Europe, so now he gets math. Yeah, exactly. The Dutch... It is only one math. That's not math. No, it's just... Not plural. Yeah. If we were in Birmingham, it would be math. Yeah. Let's lock in A, a 120-second cooldown. It is indeed A. We're fuffing it up. Look at the keep that's going on. I'm sure a lot of people wish that it was B right now, given the current state of Lone Druid. Man, it needs to be 7.42B. Make it 180 seconds. Make it five minutes. Who gives a damn? Screw this hero. What is the longest cooldown in Dota? Reincarnation. Oh. 200? Might even be higher right now. At lowest level? Yeah. That's questions for another day, not spring related. Right now, though, we are celebrating the DHL drop. Gentlemen, thank you very much for joining me for this quiz. Hopefully, you at home have participated and may have won yourselves some Dota Cosmetics. And if you're just here for the viewing experience, don't worry, I got you covered as well. We're gonna be back with a game number three of Bat Boom Team vs Vichy Gaming after this. the the the the the the the the It seems like we've been asked the wrong way In the right time seems to feel free There's a lift off the kitty Let's touch the different way There seems to be dreams of walking out It is time, friends, for the final game of the fierce Bedroom Team versus the Vici Gaming, fighting for their tournament lives right now here at Dream League Season 29, where I've been consistently bringing it up ever since Kessie presented it, but I'm very curious how a game three coin flip is going to go because so how's the system that it works Casio so game one coin flip whichever team wins it they choose priority you flip flop and game three you generally reek coin flip so it's quite left up to chance then yeah and people always like talking about this stuff too you know after tournament ah you know they got lucky with this but because the thing is that in this game the first pick team even though before this series they've always preferred second pick Yeah, the team that chose first pick and had priority they won the game correct and in this time It's that bad for my choice and they again took first pick and they immediately went to a monkey king despite the fact that pangos Band out. I thought this was the whole dynamic Ryan between the monkey king and the pango But they still opt for it as their very first pick even though pango is not available in the pool Yeah, yeah processing. What's up with that? I was very focused on my lily That is very high. I'll give you more time to cook on it while I mention the other advanced and picked Slardar, Batrider, Puck, and Tree of Protector taken out by Batboom team at VG Gaming. They take out the Kaz, the Beastmaster, and indeed take out Pango along with a Clockwork. First pick, Monkey King responded by a Windranger. Brian, what's up with this Monkey King being picked? First phase, even though the Pango's out of the pool. I'm actually curious about this because is Is there some read they have on, like, Bach or something that he doesn't have heroes he wants to play? Like, we've talked about Rubik being like a block pick to Underlord or something, but is this Monkey King simplifying the draft in some meaningful way? That's like the only thing I can possibly think of, but there's there's like a lot of heroes at Dota that give Monkey King a hard time. There's like a lot of... I think of always like the damage over time ranged guys, like Phoenixes and stuff like this. Yeah, like even here you get to open Windranger, it's great. You can have Lich, you can have Phoenix. Also, Chinese Phoenix has always traditionally been the strongest, so while you know it's most like it's just a feel thing like you know, GBK can play it, Heritage can play it, but it lacks a little bit of, I would say, logic and they're leaning more on what it feels to them, which is it just feels good. We're gonna open up this game with it and we'll make it work. I think this is a team-specific thing. Like, a lot of teams did move away from Monkey King, But at boom hasn't or I'm guessing they haven't because this is actually banned against them Every single drop like this is consistently in the first phase of bands against back booms. I'm assuming they play the serial often in scrims and They cook on however. It's been given away twice this tournament to back boom last beard and They did lose both times on the monkey king What were their solutions to get this monkey king then because was it the vipers? Was it the range bothering heroes that you're mentioning? The Phoenixes? I mean, that's those are certainly ones you can go for. I also know that the Bach, he plays a pretty good bad writer. Okay, that was First Face Band, so they did do some of their homework there. But there's always, you know, there's heroes like Viper that you can play as well. There are a lot of options. I hope that Bebbum also look at ways to help enable him. Like when I see SD Lich, Shadow Demon would actually go up quite highly in like my radar of supports to pick. If it's a core Windranger, you're gonna purge your Lich Shield also, you can take it away, which means you don't rely on one of your cores to like, buy Nullifier all the time. Or if you're not doing that, a lot of magic damage. Like, help your brother out. You know, first pick cores, they need to be helped. I'm also surprised that they opted to ban out a Lycan as opposed to a Largo, which would be an offline Dispeller, to also fulfill some of that Shoudemon purge capabilities. And to answer your question, Neil, I can tell you it's spirited against Monkey King. Sure. They played two ranged carries that bought Hurricane Pic very early on. So one was a Dark Ranger, supplemented by a Trim Protector. The other one was Shadow Fiend, and that Pic was purchased, and they just focused on pure carry to carry Munchip. So then would Wind Ranger fulfill that if she is the... ...Giro here? Potentially, but I don't necessarily know if I like that solution for VT. I just told you what spirits thought they could do better. I don't think VT should play through a ranged turret on Giro, unless it's a perfect game for it. I really liked his tiny, I liked the idea of him hitting a couple of item timings and just playing a hero that goes in with his team. Yeah. That looked far more successful in game 2. You used the turret technically and pipe with things like turret blade. That's always an option. Yeah, I wonder where they go here with their double pick, because you can go for the other support. I don't... it's okay if you show that the Windranger is the 4 or the carry, but also you still need to show the other guy. I mean, I'm at least not opposed to the Windranger carry. I think it's okay. And like you pick perhaps JinQ's hero and then plus 1, but then you still need to find... The best pick they can find is a core that goes mid and off lane and can follow the monkey king. There's heroes like Vipers, Phoenixes, I don't think Exxon plays Phoenix, but he plays Vipers, so that's one thing you could look at. There's also the Razer option, if we are talking about Exxon here. They do go for the Terribleid that I mentioned, it is a solution for the monkey king and this one is that it purchases pike, it's going to have a lot of damage output, output, but what I really like about it is that it plays well versus heroes like Bane. Like if you're gripping the Tarlet on Bane, you have three other illusions hitting you and let a morph is lose. It's not easy to do. It's quite a good TV game. Also with this pick of the Timber, like pairing it together, I kind of like it, because if you're, if you're a bad boob, you could be looking at heroes like Underlord or also like high magic damage mid-guys, like the Timbers should cover most of the off-laners that are good against TV and then later you still have the last pick to then most likely cover the mid pick that will come out against TV so I think the stubble pick is quite nice. Yeah you were hoping for a mid offline hybrid flex that fulfills the now Beppum team how much can they hide this monkey king where he's going if they go for a Miro hero here than they can stall it out. Perhaps they can go for the Largo here? Because on this pick, you may lose too many good mid options. Like, you might as well reveal your flex now, because you have overall lost pick, and they go for the Snapfire. I quite like this, because it's going to provide the necessary magic damage early on, versus heroes like Terrorblade and Timberstone. But we've seen in GPK's pan, this hero scales really well. Like late game will have his specialist, serrate, plus data list, plus VKVL just shredding everybody. I like it a lot too, especially against these two cores, like just that you can shut it down a bit. Also when you think of Lich, like he doesn't do anything to like high range magic damage, because your shield is just kind of worthless. And he's shown a lot of good games with the progression as well. So now it just comes down to the very You want something for Miero that gives you a little bit of teamfight, because you have a lot of spells, but you have nothing really that, like, ties it together very much for your draft at the moment. I mean, I'm a little bit skeptical of the Sapphire, actually, because this was something we saw much earlier on the tournament from the series with Bethelmanet, and there was three-bit Sapphires, all of which lost because they were, like, picked on 18. They were, you know, they're good for the game. They have a really good laning phase. It's a great blind pick because she's such a strong laner. But the opponent's opposing team just picked a ranged spellcaster. I know Zeus was one of them, Invoker was another, and then Tinker was the other one. And it just felt like, yeah, it's not fire. It like has so much damage, it would have a high KDA, like 10 and 3 or something like this. But then in the late game, when you do need to be a point blank damage dealer, then the opponent is just an invoker that like kills you when you blink in so I'm I'm not convinced I'm like I have to see Vici have to respond very specifically to this snapfire to show it's to exploit it and maybe they're making this bluff that like we don't think XM really plays these heroes or wants to be playing these heroes in this meta so they do pick like two ranged guys that XM does play does he have a third one that can effectively negate like that early game presence of snapfire. Would you put Storm Spirit in that camp? No, no, no. You need more damage? It's the long range aspect. If you think of storms and Lushrax and stuff, yeah, they're ranged heroes, but they have to be on top of you to deal damage. So it's specifically like Zeus and Boker, Tinker archetypes of heroes. Those are the good heroes against Snap, but the problem is that I don't love them like a TB Timber Dual Core at the moment which maybe that's also where that plays into a little bit like with the snap pick like if I'm playing these two subs around Timber I would like a mid guy that gives me any type of lockdown you know insert storm pock ember some voice spirit so if you go zoos tinker which are like the ones that we've seen is good against snap I would hate their tricor especially with that from showing you like more tempo of the brew so I can't pinpoint this last bit at the moment maybe that makes the soundfire pick really good actually it is a juicy brewmaster pick also gives you that dispel and it also does hella damage to the contra illusion contra images so what's the pickaxe down you're going into a snapfire you need to make space for your terror blade. I mean his signature ones are a take and out. I don't necessarily think the Storm's suggestion was a bad one, if you want to hear what that goes in, but they do go for those booths that you mentioned, Brian. Can you talk a bit more about it? Ah, it's just that, like, they're a very heavy committal lineup on that booth scene, like Monkey King Ulti, Sapphire is going to buy a blink dagger later on in the game, and it's not- I agree with Kezu's skepticism about it fitting well, Maybe there's a lack of synergy. They don't really have a playmaker in their drafts for Vici gaming, but I think their individual lanes are gonna do fine, and their scaling is better, and I think Zeus became a better hero because of the refresher BKB removal. So like most teams are not buying pipe. There's no double BKBs coming out. So my only question is, who on Vici is gonna be the guy setting up for like the ag's Nimbus plays for XM? might have to be ZinQ, maybe Wyatt's going like a Blink Shard type build. I do think Bevlim has that favorable, like they make better plays, basically. I might be on that, but I do like the vision aspect that Zeus provides, especially when you're playing against a hero like Monkey King. And I really like the Nimbus being able to cancel a Fiend's Grip. Like this is a way to be useful for your team if they're setting up for plays on sidelines. On Bevlim you just Nimbus and boom, there's no more Fiend's Grip first. This group kisses finding a monkey king, Nimbus has so much value. However, there is no way to anchor the fight as we're in the jungle. Yeah, I think there's a lot of cool individual things, and I don't mind it because I think the snap may have cornered you a bit into that, but when you play three cores that don't enjoy helping each other, because they all want to farm. You have Zeus, Timber, TP. Even if you do TP, you don't do much to help each other. Playing this into a tricorps that likes collapsing on you, They're gonna go dive a tower, snap ult, he's gonna connect to the Brutus diving, monkey king who goes mage layer and also dives. I would prefer to be the aggressive team, which in this case is Bed Boom. And I would say it's more on them that if they make the correct moves, they can make Vichy's game hard. But like Brian said, maybe you can find like early 8 toss on one of the supports or you have good early game, you can stop it. They'll be fine later. I'm skeptical. Well, their tournament lives are on the line, so they're betting it all on this who's pick. Let's see if it works out as we get into game number three with Gareth, nice to meet you. Welcome to the Elimination Station and we're going to say goodbye to one of these teams at this game. Unfolds! Viki Gaming has Betboom here in Game 3 of the Fest of 3 and 2, very disparate draft. Like the panel was saying, active, aggressive, jump heroes, plenty of angles to enter teamfights of Betboom while Viki Gaming, maybe they're expecting Game 3 to go to the same length as games 1 and 2. 50 plus minutes, head to late game, outstale your opponents, and speaking. They would certainly enjoy that with, effectively, three carries. Not one, not two, three carries in the same lineup. And that win ranger from the previous game, who took a lot of time to come online. Pretty greedy here, in some ways. Whenever you end up in this type of situation with three cores, not a single utility spell or disable between three cores. Take a breath, think about that, I'll get back to you Gary. So I think Beppu have a lot more to play around with in terms of the little synergies taking the team fights and disables. It's really rare that these drafts that Vici has work out. You have to execute them really well. You cannot give up bad fights in the early game. You have to do well on lanes in order to just propel yourself past that early valley. And then yeah, if you scale, you're going to be absolute beast in the lane, because you can be an issue for GBK. And it's a tough pick for the lane. When you're picking this mid-snap, you really want to see a melee goober there that you can just abuse. These long-range spellcasters are a nightmare to play against, a nightmare to play against, so it kind of sucks. You're just a mid-hero that can't buy mage slayer. I think it's one of the biggest factors. If you're playing ember mid, if you're playing the voids mid, you can go mage slayer against Zeus. You can engage so much of the heroes in pack. Going mage slayer on snap is like, eh, yeah, it's just not great. You don't want that. It doesn't stop GPK from taking a man fight. Got a man fight. God, who's winning this battle, the Zeus, the God from the heavens, bringing the damage! Straight through the tree! First blood solo kill, XM, out, done, GPK. He's gonna eat his tree too. The God of Thunder. Takes your life, takes your tree, takes your pride. He walks away. That's a great stuff for a line up that wants to go late. Got a good kick in the teeth there for that boom. Great Nimbus game too. He does get it online pretty fast. I like to be at his point. You can't play Bane in Nimbus. It's so miserable. Because it just kills all of your offense potential around the map. So it's really going to be a pain for the Bane. Did I say a Bane for the Bane? I went Bane. That's my other cost. It's fun for the Sears. I might say it's a Bane for the Bane. Now one's just probably cost the green. I was telling him I was doing an impression and he really liked it. He's like, oh you should do it in the next series. For the next game. I want to hear it. There you go, Lacoste. Just for you. That's for you buddy. Now he's listening, I'm looking to make fun of him. Yeah, he's writing down notes. I'm watching you, Gary. He's literally across the hall from me, back in the hotel. He's gonna knock me out of the door. I'm back up in the stop lane. Honestly, this timber hero, I don't have a combat against it. Okay, Beppin has a lot of aggressive potential, But we've seen time and time again, especially in the hands of Amar, as Timberstool puffs off. He skews a little bit, as his Timber is just so damn good. But I agree, it's looked pretty scary. I do wonder if Faith Beyond's gonna consider some sort of more utility or an oriented build, just to make up for the fact that they have three damage dealers. We have seen Leetos on the stereo in the past. Yeah. There used to be like the Pipe Crimson, Kreeze build. There are some utility builds you can go on the stereo, but none of them are popular now. I'm not saying they're that good. I'm not sure I'd be so tempted maybe by the A toast if your Other cores are just cooking in this game. You know like your zoo's got soul kill mid Maybe your terribly says hey, I'm destroying bottom and you go like alright I'm just gonna go A toast and maybe give us a little more flexibility, but Even then I think you're probably better off just scaling everybody up here. I'm trying to play a defensive style Like that couldn't come to you. Oh the momentum is a spring ball. Get a bit of action going What's the difference? It's Kaiasat's blade build though, especially against the Monkey King. And it's chasing him, cutting his trees, blowing him up. Or against Brew. You know, you've got limited stuns, so raw damage often feels very good, especially against this kind of hero who's relying on that final split, because what, you've got a sinister gaze of the Shackle Shot, you need something to burst this guy down. I do like the Brew here. Looks like a very good Brewmaster game. a lot of utility to dispel, but Grey gets the tear blade, doesn't look some of the illusion, just focusing him in the fight, Grey gets the lich here, removing the frost shield, super valuable, she absorbs chain frost bounces onto the earth panda. Okay, dodging bloke grenade, getting ganked by the wind ranger, nightmare on the Zeus though, drags him to high ground, so save and cast her, and get the kill on XM. Big little pick off here, always tough skirmishing the Zeus early if he has resources. Is that considered a short stature? That's right. It's a big little kill. Because you've got a thunder, but sometimes he doesn't bring the thunder. I'm sure it's a mild cost poison. I'm sure it's a given to the one of you while I'm giving it to the Timbersaw. Porting Barca, right? 27 and 6 so far for them, okay? I believe I know that Sapphire died, leaving out in the last hit, so Lady Stage Still getting pretty well for Pepin across their three cores. Now that there's enough good matchups here, good core matchups to play off against other than that mid lane. This perfect monkey ended up in a favorable lane, so Pepin should be happy about that. Just a little concern for GPK as this game develops. Also, if they don't get some value out of the blue master ultsies, I think you really want to use Primal's Foot. You can off-cool down this game if you can. You don't want to let this turn into a farm fest. You want to kick this airbite out of the bottom, you want to be pressuring towers. You want to really bring the heat with the Sapphire Brew combined in this game for multiple team fights in that mid-game, and just pick the face up. Don't let BG start rallying this game out, getting a lot of farm across all three cores, and just... Enjoying the life, so you're not going to be happy in the end. So what kind of build for the Brew? It's against the TB we used to see. Right, that just feels so slow. It's a good Vestal game. No dispel for it here, extra magic damage into the Frost Armor that's getting dispelled anyway, It's a temper nice game. I'm sure this use of the fights. You definitely want to act on this hero, right? Yeah, I got 100% so I Think you can just go vessel if you're getting kills with the iron if it's a slower game Maybe you go the Midas Okay on this hero, but Yeah, vessel as soon as you can with whatever between coming down the line You can think of these like a slot cura's whatever sacrifice Thank you. As if she can stay hasty in that fire, chasing you, and Nero's fine. To back away from Shiro, it's her blade. Gonna chase here, that's a long TP from that line. He is hasty though. He is? Still very speedy. Get out of his way bro! He's wobbling forward the fat little legs of the crocodile, catch up to Shiro, to take down the terror blade. Big kill. Taking advantage of that stupid ass run. A large big kill. That's right. Not a large tiny kill. kill. Oh, I'd say large medium kill. Yeah. Terrific. It's pretty tall. He's only tall in Meta. That's true. He's a he's a grower. Not a show or Gary. He's wearing his platform shoes. It's not what I was referring to. Sure, we'll go there. It's all about the shoes. That's right. It performs when it counts. Sure, it is. So do you know what? The wisdom shrine. She wants to step straight into the statues and back on the outskirts So they're realizing they can't really step in to Kiritich's monkey chain. All that work is they can't have two wisdom shrines. And our Kiritich's full health. He's being chased by Bach. My body blocks. He's going to turn and get the Jinger Stacks and now he realizes, hang on, we've brought three heroes up here. We lose shrine, we don't get a kill, we're wasting so much time. Mucky's so strong in this early game. You have very little against Kiritich here. It's going to be a concern because he's going to be mega-farmed. He can run around the map, he can join fights, he can assert himself. You have no dispels for him, you have no real slows for him, no DOTs for him. Look at you, okay? Cookie's the Rubik forward to blast down Shiro, you dumped this terribly out of lane completely. This is getting concerning for BG. These are not the kills you can give off in this type of game. It's got a snowball so damn fast. Master the ammo for that boom. Play quick, lane stronger. And Zeus cannot bail you out of the style. He's not that type of hero He gives you damage, but he needs other people to often start the action set it up They also sit in that mid lane and farm Provide some global presence, maybe TP react late, he's no head for spirit, he's not gonna come in We threw shiro the magic damage, just too much to handle, burnt to a crisp Miro got gazed back by wine, but his liches just completely isolated and that was a regen rune, so he's full Let's get to the feeding friends down here and now Carlos with all my you can't even come back here I mean you can't anyway, but your TV's on cool now, so that's probably saving you from another death Miro thinking about the Midas now and with this trajectory could have been pretty fast here So I don't mind this Maybe instructions are fought. It saves the wave so fast. You push base back across back to one. Maybe with options to have played back down to bottom lane again. Or maybe into this nightmare. Yeah, change angle. GP care gonna come back across. This is the cookie as he tried to get the Zeus in the tree line. And now, Timberstourne trying to join in this with the Thunder God's Ramp to get a trade out. Jink cube for Katomie. Desperately wanting more. That fire of massive target to kill with a shot from there, Rookong's low, really caused issues for Bass, and he's got the level 1 timber chain to slip away. So feature gaming responding, very important move there in the mid lane to rebuff the efforts and kill the snap. That was a needed stabilizing play in this game and a very important faith beyond comes to that. Because they need his early damage here, the Zeus is running out of mana. They don't get those kills without a huge maneuver by him to recognize it. You know, he doesn't want to really play top against the monkey anyway, so he's gonna be looking for that kind of play. I could do a little bit of breathing room. Not much for your tearblade, but at least you get some gold on your other two cores here. A lot of wards around this mid lane too. Triple dire ops around mid. Playing through GPK. Oh, you're gone. Pulling out all the tricks that beat this Zeus in the mid lane. This is what you do to them. This is the weakness of these slow-ass bellcasters, like saying with Tinker or Voker. If you can just compound the games on this hero, get the wards there, just ruin his day, don't let him walk in lane, don't let him hit that big camp. Something you can really do about it. Needs more time, more levels to come online. Leave it out. Alright, look at this. Mera, you're starving again, doesn't even need the Primal Split. Too easy. You have to clickster Y. It's just one of those games where you have so much early damage, you don't need the primal split, you just hold it forever, and now he's going back for Vessel. So, I prefer the Vessel over the Midas here, I think it's gonna pay off, I think it's gonna get you another big core kill here in the early game, it's gonna be another profit for this Kimber especially, who's not gonna be able to buy a super early Dispel here. And then at the very least it keeps you on the map, to keep playing forward. boom as we've seen very good lady stage team lanes of course breaking down now beachy gaming in an ideal world have wanted extended lady stage to try and keep these calls for farming but now you're losing your stacks over in the jungle angels get cleared out as they kiss his land of course the back Don't we not worth it there for GPK? Yeah, you did send a message. It's not comfortable for BTN after that I'm sure. And now there's a level 6 save Rubik. Nice spell, too, with that shocker. I'm sitting mid once again. Thank you. Struck to Bodyguard XM, but you see this Vayne arriving. Immediately getting zapped and the shock was shot in. Oh no, he's okay, the pop is wand. Now the tower focus comes in. So bottom lane is uninhabitable, terribly junkling. Mice! Mice and mice! Both of them at the same time! Dear gosh, there's mice in the mic! There's mice with a mic! Name a mic, I don't know, it could be anything. What, the sixth man coaching? He's joined the discord? He's level six! I'm terribly nervous. What?! He was at level 6 terribly at 12 minutes. What have you been doing? They've been getting killed. Run over, boot it out, Blaine. That's disgusting. No way to call it home. There's a lot for these three to do in this mid lane. I'm gonna cheat gaming. Found another obstacle, at least. They didn't have to get both those obstacles. Really important. I got the solo kill, he doesn't have quite enough. What the fuck is he like, Sam does? You can't throw me. I'm gonna help with the chakram. Nope. I'm not even gonna try it. I won't finish off this Timbersoul. Every little kill like this, it just pressure alleviated. That's so big. That is not a kill that should ever happen like that. That's a mage player monkey with absolute free farm highs, now we're in the game completely free farming and your Timber just sets up effectively a solo kill with a little juice from his fusult. Huge stuff. stuff. There's level 10 now on this timber. What's the phase booth do for some extra maneuverability scheme? I think it's down to the pin by its own spells though. Yeah, it's a little bit in the length. It's face created I guess. That one's for you, Shiro. Another level for my timber saw. It's frantic scribbling with the map now as well. GPK. Get on to this Wicked Ranger. What's going to happen if we break and finish the TP? You're gonna kill the Mountain! Alright, two on main, that's forfeit. Just watching you pet boom heroes. Make this map very difficult to navigate. Oh, they know the game planters. This plan around. Running them, take the space, give them nothing. Ward after ward, keeping tabs on them all. Another wisdom shrine. Taking away here. No wisdom triumphs, but the poor Vici gaming supports. Double-double. We're still in an okay position though. It's not as bad as it could be. That monkey kill top was pretty big. We got some of the obs around mid. Lost a bunch of towers, that was inevitable, but Chiro's starting to recover at least a little bit here. see how much the damage adds up xm he finds a little mushroom and a little nut he's not that one what nuts? nut everywhere it's what Hera wasn't very happy about that's true mythology wise absolutely on track spreading his seed alright calm down oraging everything cage watching I don't know about that Bat Boom smoking up looking for TV Shiro, well he went all the way back to Barrier. I don't find him. 1 level 9 Terrablade, 17-1 charges. Safe. How is he? Look at how some kisses launch down. No, no, no, no, no. Oh! The Thunder, though. Has he got any friends? No. Back up? Help? Nothing. Spelch. Now, meantime, Wukong's top lane. Chain Frost gonna bounce it onto Kata home and kill the Bay. It's like who they wanted though. leaves away from the trees really wanted here to drop that play big smoke committal they do have a lot of long-range poke they can play when they switch when range of use kind of blow up some target without committing that's the one part of the synergy that's gonna be a little annoying for that the video we found the Zeus he jumped to low ground I was gonna try and walk into the ancient camp but he can't get over the cliff the kazzup stops him GPK Thunder! They have a solar one! Slops helps with the snap fire! What a beast! Max still has a ton of damage to give though! Chases forward, kills the TPK! 10 bucks! And an awkward spot now! Delved by the Monkey King and the Windranger. And the Windrun backs it in too, while Y comes in. Trying to help out, we'll place some ancients in our primal split. Oh, he's by Miro! Comes straight towards this Windranger. A little bit more damage required. Earn ticked over, a little bit but a heal that's never enough against Mero's speedy firebamber. Dude, tell us, there was a lot of six-milk guys in the fight, actually. The shackle from the low ground. Oh, he's... he got it in this! Wait, what happened? Doesn't that hit? Didn't that change it? Yeah, what? Because the true start comes before the spell? Yeah, what, he's got something? Oh, got slapped? There's no way he hits that guy. no way no way dude what actual god gamer that's so sick what so rarely we see this nightmare as a time nightmare save no that's like that's impossible there's no the Zeus wasn't found there's no breed of that isn't it boys enemies that's how good it was I don't I'm still shocked I don't believe that What the fuck was that? What? Is this a belief? How do you know? What's the window on Bane? Is it a point? Is it a point? Was it a point? One second? Two seconds of invulnerability? Wait, did he cast it? The second it came up? Did he have the exact cooldown? Me? Did he? That's why. He's really good. He's just a god. That might be one of the craziest things I've ever seen unless there was something in it, just not a hero. Yes, theories winning play, happening in game three. So good from Kat's army. Now, don't overstep. Let's cook it back. Thank you, GPK. Get me out of this dangerous position, please. Back with 4K to the good now. It's a game, and it's a little cramped. I'm trying to catch up. They've somewhat leveled the playing field these three cores. They're starting to get there. They're not drastically farther height The 4k lead isn't insurmountable by any means. It's just this post 20 minute period We're better than we're gonna have all their big items. That story gets really scary This is what you're gonna have a Zeus with kaya. He's gonna be pre-agonum scepter Timberstool is gonna have kaya sand when I have any of his dispells when I'm actually either I'm gonna terrible late like man to dragon lands I'm sorry, I'm still thinking about this. I can't get over it. What you just so ready for what? Oh, he respawned. Okay. I'm just What are we doing here? That's not my fault. Why didn't she say that's why I said I was like there has to be a trigger here Yeah, no one is that good your clever. So I was right in a sense. I knew no one. I knew no one's that good I'm just blind. There's definitely a lot of people in the chapter like blind cast I got there in the end that's what counts that is It's that one lucky right before three play three different times as bark is gonna get blasted down by the clubs of lava landing into the back of his head Nice little juice in the trees We'll find you. Okay, so it's still sick play but not Some ultra sick didn't stink. Yeah, raise it out of 100 So it was like a 99 out of 100 sick play now. It's like a it's like a 42 or something really? I mean that's actually, uh, I mean you just, you just sleep on any respawns there, so you can't be able to get in the mastery. Just press those buttons, that's it. You're just a good button for that. Still a stick of reed though. By the way, the only reason it was that low is cause GenQ hit some like, ridiculous blind power shot on him before it died the room master. And Max just didn't say it. It's an item. Anyway, we're fools. That's fine. He's good. We're allowed to pick. And no more of it goes on, yeah. pushing towards that nimbus will change the game once you get that and you're actually a hero that's doing stuff instead of just arm bot simulator. Do you have the room to get there though? That is the question. The clock has been accelerated quite a bit. You have the Desto Monkey, you're going to have the Axe Brewmaster here, you have the Rubik level 12, two points of the spell steal. early game is adding up here for Bethune. It's like two minutes away from monkey bkb as well. So when they get this call, they get even closer. I think she's smoking with their little gank trio. Nice wing ranger and lich. Start to shift up towards top lane. If they can get some damage on this table on tower, claim some objective somehow, be great for them. Bethune are not gonna get away with anything for free. The monkey can put himself up top to defend that tower. It's kind of funny looking for a fight right now from Vichy Lee. A lot of nice early items on the side of Beppum. Look for kick-off, sure. Fighting around these towers is going to be a destiny, so... So they're not going to force it. Maybe they find Katoomi, a jungle? Or they... I think they're going to make this go on the monkey. It's really dangerous. It's close to a tower. Glimmer of the Lich. They see TPK, they see Cure of Titch, I start with a shard bouncing chain frost but it's not enough to connect him. They split targets. Going on both the snap of the monkey at the same time and now Gincu's burning down to the bottom of his kisses. 100 HP remaining. They've missed opportunity there. That's where you have the Nimbus. He's like guaranteed dead. You have this Nimbus Lich plus Ice Fire combo but now this monkey's He's gonna pkd. So you missed your window to sneakily gank Kiritich in this game and they're probably just gonna rush off of that So that brewmaster axelt Level three online so impossible contest Who gets it? I'm here. Oh, that's not gonna be the case, right? Kiritich gets it for sure. The snap-fire is blinking at the back. Do you remember that scene where they were going high ground, loosing the game because they kept dying by the tier 3? Yes I do. The question is do they remember that? I hope so. Did they learn? They lost it. Sometimes Dota players don't like learning. Just watch GPK and see. How'd she go diving? Oh no. Straight off the back of the Aegis grab. I'll be off the map for quite some time, farming, scaling, and I go to Nimbus. I'm readying themselves for a go here on the mark, Nimbus there onto the Bane though, Katomi getting focused by the Metamorphosis Parablaid, Mero's Primal Split, I'm gonna catch up to this wine glitch, needs a bit more damage to help him out, but the focal Point is Shirou's terrible play, he found the strike stun, changed the stable down to GPK. Kiritich picks up the double kill, and his final split just keeps on giving. Another SlyClan onto XM, Kiritich jumping in towards the back, and Zeus, he all stores the trouble. More Mortimer's kisses landing into the back of them. Two cores gone. A great fight to bounce down that Roche pit to get some core kills. It's honestly not a terrible fight for BG, I just think the fight is literally impossible. There's no way you're dealing with this Bruce, but there is no way to get out of this one comp once you get dropped into it. The monkey has a just even quick few progressives with that plus the BKB. That's just an impossible fight to take. It's not that okay, first point of contact to Timber that's not bad, but once the Terablay gets dropped, that's just Ripperino. I think really all your life can be right now is looking for some sort of kill with Nibbis and then get the hell out. I feel like, BATBOOM. They're not going to give you that opportunity, they're just going to go on hyper aggressive. They have a lot of gap clothes. Three heroes at all, like a little pseudo gap clothes, you know. A monkey bleeding in, a snap far with the blink and cookie, the brew can just ult and just run the storm hand in. It gets decent catching gap clothes for a lineup that doesn't have some like traditional storm spirit or something. Makes this terror blades life really difficult because you just can't hold the formation for him. gets broken so fast and Zeus is also super dependent on some sort of frontline the second he gets jumped upon Miserable especially if you don't have defensive items, which I don't like XM can afford in this game He's I just pray for pressure here. It's a roll damage. Any idea. He gets it pretty powerful So then you rely on the typical so heavily. Oh, yeah, it's all on faith beyond here. BKB is queued up But he's gonna get a BKB Agadam scepter from all his zone defensive tools just a frontline tank up Draw the attention of Beppin whenever he can GPK inverse though See if we can find anyone here. There's no lich, there's no Windranger Lich in fact is on that right hand side of the map gonna steal... I'll think about stealing the wisdom shrine It's not there though. Ah, it's too far away I'm losing tier 2 bossa. I'm indication they want to move. I can't even pressure a tier 1 tower on the map. There's farming in behind. He's out of jungle camps on the map. Speedchill, I have just told him. I agree. I'm like, why? What did you even get out of greeting it up this much, you know? get winning me get some ultra cheese clutch hero it's not like an artwork light up we're like yeah it's green but you know they got last big artwork or new people or something I understand just like you didn't get anything for the green just put yourself in the hole just have to fight your way out I guess down 11k they just will expire here in a minute if that's opportunity to try and do something that point you have BKB on the terabyte so you can trying to fight through a little bit more, but his damage is kind of pathetic. Maybe that move, give him a hand, chuck a ladder down the hole, that'll clamber out a little bit. You curse him online. There's always that potential, you know, you should go high ground a little bit too early into a Zeus, a Thunder, and attack to absorb all that damage. I caught him. I'm now on him though. Fuck. No escaping. We're getting cookie down. Got a lot of attack speed, right click damage from this. Throw master now. Thanks for the farm. 15k network, the hand of might is sticking in. I'm clearing up the radiance. It's another way to deal with the tower blade. Also just getting you to scale and deal a lot of damage. Get in there with these upgraded pandas on support so you can melt them. Why trying to set something up bottom if someone shows up that way? So we're gonna look for these kickoffs within Nimbus if you can set them up. Just very hard to kill these super tanky heroes. Looking for supports. You're playing against two ranged Aetherlands supports, so... A lot of gap to close there to bottom. Yeah, good luck. At least now I just count them. I guess you might find yourself in a position. When this blink for Lich comes up, you find an isolated tour, you're able to nimbus with the Aspire and the Chainfrost. It's the dream. It's the type of dream, though. It's the heroes tanking up Scottie, the unprocured. There's so much HP in the tank here. Here's that wisdom trine steal we got there in the end. But they lost their own, so... My great repath of Lich. Amp damage on the burner. Let's check it. It's a little too far away. Making sure the terraplate doesn't have access to all this nice, juicy, high value farm. Spent sitting in base for like 40 minutes. Gotta get out of the map. Gotta abuse these sides. Well base gates do something. Hey, Pionts got the right idea. Mushiro is literally saying, Yeah, he has not left base. You're not kidding. In at least three minutes. Yeah, you're getting some far off the illusion. This feels pretty rough. I'm about to be farming everywhere on the map. Not even high-fiving the boogie man. Come on. What are we doing? I think the save realized something was up. Maybe the poogie gave up too. Explanation mark on his head. He's fleeing. He's fleeing. He's very concerned. Did you see a monkey king launching himself across the canopy like that? I think he's done as well. People always talk about the power creepin' donut. What about the cosmetic creep? You ever think about that? Well the blue monkey king. It's just like in general these cosmeticals kind of getting out of control are we gonna nerf them ever? I mean there was a time what's the limit when the out plan ursa set was considered not fit for the doltras desert Now it costs like ten thousand dollars became a band item there you go And then they released the phantom assassin set which is literally identical the cowboy hat Maybe I'm old but I can't What's my glance value? Gone the amount of times I see some like queen of pain that looks like a Ricky or a Ricky looks like a freaking death prophet or something. I've got no idea what's going on here. What? I mean, a pan looks like that's like you. They've all got like flappy wings and feather dramatic sets. Ricky looks like death prophet. You need some optometry. I don't know what to tell you. I'm reaching. I'm pushing for it. That's not a 40 issue, brother. That's a just your doctor, Gary. That's all I had to say. That was a nimbus to spot the fiends drip. Monkey King's here though. Except for a technical game. They killed Katho and we Take that as well, you stupid bane. Feel the pain. It was all according to plan. I thought it was a bad one to be on the wrong side of the map. Yeah, they did give up their foothold and I don't think they had to. There's more space than Vici deserves at this point. I mean the ultimate card in this game might be the late game Sapphire anyway. Oh! Take that save! Why? I guess it done. Camped out here for the last five minutes. I see being out as well See up. Got it Easy, and you like all according to plan and terribly finally has left the raging face two heroes dead That's what's up two heroes died TV says finally going false mentions. He's been let out of jail Sheeran can taste some light again I have to. Being imprisoned in the seven hells. Technically terribly it wasn't prison, so it's kind of lore fitting. Chained up like a toolmemter is. Yeah. Who sent him there? Shadowed even? Someone? I don't know man. I see lion, doom, they're all like demonic figures who love going to hell and all. I'll be honest here, I don't really give a fuck about Dota War. Really? No, it's just me use. The fractal walls of Fowl fell, not only failed to contain terribly, they granted him new foulness control over his twisted reflection. You don't have to pretend. Like I'll tell you something else man, Fowl. He also don't care about the reward. Well I know, what makes me say that? Because we don't have any. After 20 years. Sorry, it's the truth. We got an anime with a couple of seasons. Did we though? We got Lycopedia with a bunch of uh... Did we though? Lore. Did we get any hives? Oh no. We got an animated show. What's the difference? Do you know the difference? I feel like we all know the difference. Uh-huh. We got something. That's all I'll say on that. So what, be with some butthead, animate the show. No, I'm just saying. It's like, did we get an animated show? Technically, yes, we got an animated show. What did we get in anime? Ya know, it's like you get those chocolate. The Gravitons of the word anime. Ya, it's like you get a Chocor Croissant. But there's just a little bit of chocolate. So you've got to what? Chocor? A chocolate croissant. Calm down Gary, okay? Get your mind out of here. I don't. Ya know what I'm saying? I got accident diffed there real hard. There's just a little nugget of chocolate inside. Ya know, they don't fill it up. The Panon Chocor. Bullshit. Man, this is a fix of Choky Chocolate. Okay Batboom, what are you doing? You smoked? Gonna try and give the jug off. I've got the Nimbus onto the base! You're gonna kill Cassiomie? Okay! Down he goes! Right, but it stopped to this! The Sky Terraplaid from the high ground is pretty scary, but some kisses landing on the Shiro now. Save low HP having to retreat, and Batboom are afraid and tentative to go more. Take that, Catiyomi. That's what you get for walking across the river. 100 to 0 by the God of Thunder. And all it took was to use 17,000 net worth. I have the TV metamorphosis being spent. I was getting up Roche and... No, it was honestly hilarious, but... Literally nothing happened except... ...Coutz and me tanked the whole... ...Mimizdal whole... ...tied. Look back, and they're like, Oh, okay, I guess we'll go Roche. And then they're gonna find out what VTG gaming has left in the tank. There's a pretty big window now. No matter 70, I was gonna fight. No refresh for two minutes. No something goes wrong for 70. What is this game, man? Like, why is he just sitting at the other gate now for like the last five minutes? What is this? I'm just waiting for his moment. This cannot be an actual game. Come on, GPK, look at this thing. What is this? Like, are you playing any fire? This game makes sense. What? He tried. get me out he tried you have to admit he tried what up what would you rather he's there try oh man did he what do you rather he's there trying or sit by his every time I get a bit why I feel like they didn't have to play this way or draft this way yeah just why is this how you want to play he's so innocent Let's just say that let's say you managed to win this game this beach. Also, it's not even looking that bad compared to like 10 minutes ago, but Do you feel good man? Are you proud of that win? Are you satisfied in life? No, I am. You're a champion. There's no way. You are just dripping and sweating until I get it. Maybe Hexen's like driving, I don't know. This guy definitely enjoys the weird turrets go to the Not a lot of little players driving, but... Ah, this is something sick getting... Brutal, like, what is this? He's gonna go again, go on, go on, go on. I'm surprised he didn't go on him. Well, it's a chain-frustin' cooldown, that's why. That's why. True. But, he did have... He's just holding in this. It's kind of a close-damage choice. I mean, got to always get punished for going. These are ads here, could have just gone glimmer. She wouldn't have 5 deaths. Or a BKV. Just run to rush BKV and burst item BKV Vayne. That's how it's going. 3 minutes on the clock for this Aegis. MKV done for the Monkeys, level 24. He will absolutely shred this Terablayer Zeus. You can get on top of him. But the refresher combo is back up for XM. So... Can't tell me. Or went out for the homies here. You can't buy that this time. Yeah, he dies for so long. He's gonna be so trigger actually. He dies here just through another double-zeus. Nidgid is... oh, nothing else has happened in this game. So come on, man. Do anything else. You got Octo-Ring just to lower the cooldown so you can kill this Vayne 30% faster. I think Y has to be one of the most patient men I've ever seen. He's just giving up on life. Yeah, all his hands on his keyboard amounts right now. Are we just sitting there? Alright. Watching Betboom come to your high ground. Time to send it. Here comes Monkey. TPK Illusions and a Glimmered Diet Creek. Time to fight. Tallyho, show us fast the tier 3 tower. Bikin' to try and deal with the creep wave, but it's been fannered up. It's a shackle shocker. Launch, but doesn't really connect. In this one. There it is. And a jump in from Timber. Ooh! Big damage. Rubik's Fave, dragging out danger and a primal split with the kisses. Providing a covering fire. He's sending Bluekong's command. They want to kill these buildings without him. Yeah. That was a lot for a building though. Have they even killed the building? No. They will kill it. I know. Bloody for sure, least five cloting at Tarra Blade off cooldown and the Lannobarons gone. Ok, well, it's very exciting. One of the more exciting fights I think I've ever casted. Yeah. I just didn't even cast Refresher. Nope, they literally did nothing. Oh, back to hiding bottom with the Lich and I've armed up for another, I don't even know. It's one of those series, man, where everything in flight just slows down. You get a lot of time to think about your past sins in the world of Dota 2. It does put Shiro in a position where he's thinking, okay, I'm a terrible blade. I'm going to go for this Hydra's breath. I'm going to scale. I'm going to channel my inner Yattaro or Satanic or whatever it might be. Okay, I'm on board. Go to this late game. Get some sick play. Yeah. The outplay potential is there, right? You do this double nimbus, kill the bane, you stun this monkeine, get him to 1 HP, you kill him And then you die to snapfire and brewmaster Or you spend 3 minutes getting cyclone by the brewman He had me in the first half Yeah, I lost track of this thought process though I started looking at Batboom's heroes and I realized that terrible his life is not going to be easy He was 1-5 though, he's got that going for him 1-5 is 0 in fact He's got a 0.2 KDA right now Great! Or less action Incredible stat life. Yeah. What's this hero damage? Let's bring up the hero damage everybody. Let's see who's cooking in this game. I bet my boy Zeus is just racking up some stats right now. We're gonna do some power up some hero damage. So you hear a damage now before they start the fight, and then when they engage after the fight? It's a good game. We're looking for something. Trying to break out the rut now. My boy Zeus cooking this game. He knows. Terribly lowest hero damage. For now. For now. They're going to jump on the back of him, they've saved him with the Chalice and he's got some of them and he's going to be died, blown up to the Zeus damage. See ya later, get the fuck out of here. We killed the base. Get the fuck out of here, what we came for. Jump, welcome. Just like that, back to the shadows, enjoys sitting there for 70 seconds on the Bi-Bit death timer. We're not going to strike while the iron's hot, we're going to wait for it to cool down again. You stupid. You should have come into this game, let me tell you how much. Nobody plays pain against Vici Gaming, sit down! We might not win this game, we might not win this series, but we're gonna make you retire. Zero six ten, if you never get me that axe. Terrorblade did another 1.3k damage? God damn, never in the world, 8k, and they killed me. Thank you Zeus. They were scaring the monkey there, that was a nice shackle. But they know they have all this game, I will say, very disciplined game from Vici Gaming. very discipline not buying a form they can shoot just getting one kill backing up they're grinding it out man they know they have the ultra late game here technically as it goes there there's baby steps then those days tiny little micro stuff is trying to catch up I wonder what Shiro's map looks like it's just a red ball on the bottom left well he hasn't he hasn't been top lane I don't think he's in middle- I don't really think I've seen him anywhere other than the couple fights they started where he like poked in and then just got lifted by Brumas. He went into Raiden Angels once. I remember he went into Raiden Angels once, but he's been bottom-laying and in his base for a good 30 minutes. I will say this game is kinda hype and like... Totally stupid way. Oh, it's weird way. Oh! Windrager getting blasted. Catcher onto the lift to the back as well. Two raiders to force disappear, but the monkey kid... The monkey?! Hang on a second! The monkey! Terrible play, running him, gonna change the guard and jump to the back, still finished off by Shiro, but they've got the grip on the TV. All the time! Has he got it ready? They're gonna spike on him now. Terrible play, actually protected, capped up on his high ground so he can survive and fall back. They killed him under, but now the chase is on, but Shiro's getting blown up by his GPK. As Byback available, but Axe can't get in and run out, refreshes up, jumps with all the hops to get away from his brewmaster, But another touch of damage, and GpK's arrival secures the end of Valkyrie. Looks like he's gonna get finished off with an ellipt back in towards them. Fear of that a monster kill spree, they'll buy back Zeus and Terrablade. All of a sudden they all kicks off. GpK's died, but better say this is our time to shine. Let's shut them all down! The hell's happening? They're just all in! And why the hell not? There's a violent glitch here, they could have four heroes up. But he has no meta, Zeus used a refresher and kinda used everything. They just look like another lane. Do we go third lane or bottom? I mean you have to if you're buying. Try and finish this one off. Get back or buy it then run away. 12 more. They rotate the precaritage but Miero with another primal splitter straight in on the back with a stolen Thundercall's wrath. Q-buys back, but they've got this massive Wukong's command to encircle the bottom lane barracks. Yeah, fight that. Demolishing the buildings. Earth Panda, the monkey king, going to work. Even chasing Y in the back that died back from ledge secures his fate. And still, the 3v5, each he gave an outnumbered outgun. And there until that basic disarray. Level 25 on the snap now, too. He's fully kitted, has the hydra, has the crit, has the shredder talons. The late game is here. Case that boom needed it I'm not really sure how the monkey died y'all it's lasted by terribly as he appeared out of the switch in the wukong I didn't see the projectile. Yeah, I didn't see either. Maybe it got one more hit off or something before you got cycle and slip Otherwise there wasn't much going for beachy in that fight just super chaotic Doesn't start out too bad here He's able to like, once you put a lot of damage into him. See here. He stops over to the statue. Yeah, like what? What's he doing? Nothing. Shiro killed him. He's just hit by like a ghost hit that was chasing him through the thing. Cause he's grick on terribly and he right clicked it down. Yeah, that's just a projectile that disappeared. Oh, there it goes from Roshir. Last YOLO play from Ichigami. On the Brink of Oldenation here. Oh, Shiro's left his base. Heatmap can get updated. He's in the Roche pit, with that boom contesting. Format starts with BGK, and he tries to reposition around the pit, pushing this Monkey King around. Koki away from the nimbus, is character change. Hey KP! Oh, he's about to fall! Get off the Wukong's command! Shifting to a statue. Kata only has the one to die, and now to jump back to the battle strike. Monkey King, I mean, he's better than Kata's lucky stars, he survived. Don't want to die back. TP out from the zoo, it's not going to succeed. Dead for the better part of two minutes now. That was so close! I maybe haven't something happened to Steve Ravicci instead. Just getting annihilated. But Kyrton was like 50 health or something, that profits Pendulum. Yeah, he should shower and that's what kept him up. And a very clutch throwback from Steve. Spailed his buddy out with the lift. Well, here's the situation. Terrible aid. The world resting firmly on his shoulders. Has to defend the base against mega creeps. No chance for a zoom sword to restore. Damn. That was kind of closer than it. Egypt. That boom. We're off to push things to the limit. Blinded defying rapier on this monkey king now. Ah, you know there's no buys. Refresher, brewmaster. And time to write it down, Med. Oh, Walter. You'll land a choice. Well... I don't think there's much of a way to throw this, but... Find out. Cases to clear allusions. Get rid of some of the waves. It's down from the back and find out where the Terraplate is hiding. No better for 50. Yeah. Good luck, Miki Gaming. A fast feeling they did as Beth Boone came in and cleared out the Terraplate. Now they know it's in! Oh, but GG. Tap out. Game 3 goes to BB. Yeah, just a better team in this series. A more cohesive game plan. More real Dota being played. You know this Miki Trap? Huh. It's just not a real Trap. I don't know... I don't know why they like putting themselves in this position, or if they just think they're going to be able to get out of lanes better, but I just feel like this Tri-Core needs so much to go right to feel good in this game, so lane needs to get absolutely dominated. Maybe the two supports need to just go mid and kill this in a far like four times, so Zeus is just ultra-jack. But something weird needs to happen like that. You can't play this kind of just static lineup with this, and then expect Pet Boom to do nothing with a really fast one. Like, that's the issue. If you're playing a really static slow green lineup against another one, it's like, okay, we're going to match in there, and then we're the better scaling team. I can understand if Ichi have that idea, but this is a really fast line-up from Bet Boom. You know, the brewmaster's gonna dominate terribly. You have Mucky who's gonna dominate Timbersaw. You have Sapphire, one of the fastest mids in the meta. They can all combine super easily around the map. They have low cooldown spells. They have big ults that threaten your cores no matter what. You're gonna kick heroes off the lanes, off the map, take the towers, like... It's all gas! That's where I just go, what was the idea, and... Did not come together. Kind of a sad exit for this Ichigami squad that I think is a fun team to watch, but sometimes they just put themselves into the hole. That boom. Finding a little more momentum here as they continue to try and come back in this tournament through the over. Yeah, looking way crisper. I could come back like... There's GQ on his Windranger, a couple of games where he's thinking, okay, maybe the conversation was had. We don't want double melee anymore. Can't get him in next with a Timber Sword. But it just didn't feel particularly good. No way to enter the team fight. Now, Vichy Gaming bow out in that boom. March on as they take game three. They continue in this lower bracket while, yes indeed, Vici Gaming are now eliminated from a dream league as he's in the 29. They still get to go to the Esports World Cup because they qualified through the China qualifier, but unfortunately the road ends here for them in this tournament. That boom, however, gets to move on, and they get to do it by leaning on their Monkey King. It was shot down earlier, yesterday, against a team spirit, but it seems that if Uchi Gaming did not have the same solutions. No, and I think Becvim showed us why everyone's first spanning it against them. It seems like when they can have characters on this hero, the map just becomes so small for the enemy. It's like he led so many of those early game aggressive maneuvers, which makes it It's hard for a team like U2 that is dependent on their off-laner having the ability to take these fights early on. It makes that difficult for him. Yeah, maybe just in this current meta they're making the read that you don't really, like, they ban first round bad writer. That's not a hero that most teams are banning. And then you also, there's not too many ranged off-laners right now. So maybe that's what they're reading on the mug. That's maybe why they're first picking the monkey king like they are. Like yeah, he picked Timbersaw probably one of the melee heroes that will fare better than most other melee heroes would still it like Avery was saying all three lanes were in favor of them all game and Their tempo was higher and I liked the Zeus against snap and a vacuum, but we were concerned about their playmaking on VG and I Think we can safely say they didn't make any plays I mean they did not and it's why before the game started. I hate their tricorps It's when you have a tricor that doesn't help each other like what synergy is there other than hitting creeps Then it's all on your support and it's like it's really difficult to play supports like that if you gang for a zoo Smith it's really hard to get a kill if you gang for timber first of all He needs to be level six which is gonna be delayed because he's up against a monkey king And then if I'm TV there's a brew split in a snappled flying down my ass at minute eight What am I supposed to do that you respawn you die again? It's I think it's tough I hope that we she can you know just develop a little bit more cause obviously they're great players They're really smart players, but they kind of maybe got cornered into it a little bit here in this third game And at the same time I think that boom they just played really well They understand their strat we talked about the first check monkey king. It looked phenomenal I really did I mean I think it says a lot about the state of the game if you're only Playmaker mid game is your literature These gates trying to get solo kills That's not ideally a situation that you want to be in and I understand what they wanted to do especially Oh, look at him go Big action over here the whole time. He's just thinking why why am I doing this? Why? I do think that the terrible solution versus monkey king would have been great had he had The ability to hit heroes, right? There was actually no stuns on the side of each. He's dropped as well You're working with a Shackle and as sinister gaze and that's it and just acts. Yeah. Remember it's very good at the point one second But there's at least like other things why Dota is very cool there You have like some stuff that happened in the mid game where they're going to the enemy triangle There's some quad stacks some guy gets like nearly stuck he dies You have Rubik who has a thunder and I think like the other thing You know take it away that Vici can't really make any place I think sometimes you just need to also appreciate like some of the randomness because actually GBK will just die Instantly if there's no like thunder save but because of the thunder even though he nearly dies like Bach has to like you know overchase into the fight and then he dies and it just kept showing in like all these clips that it's just really hard for Richi to take these fights like not only are you behind but you don't have the network to like make up for what your draft lacks and I mean this play was really cool you know even though the Zeus is respawning just like talking about this and doing it at the right moment and at the right time I gotta enjoy and you know respect some beautiful Dota shows the skill stealing capabilities of these players specifically the player who made that play. Kata Omi, congratulations on the victory against Avicii Gaming. We were just talking about it, but I was wondering if I could take you back to that thick bane play. So was it your idea or Save's idea to do the nightmare? I thought about it, but Save told me first to do it. Very honorable of you for him to give him credit. So Zeus is respawning, he picked up the the Invis room as of the most recent patch, Invis wouldn't save him anyway, so you just told you, yo, as soon as Zeus respawns, Nightmare me? Yes. Nice. It was beautiful today. Yes. How's your team's motivation going on in this lower bracket? Because I did speak to Save a few days ago, and he seemed like he was just going through the routine. He was just like, it's one tournament after another. Yeah, we won the last one, but then there's another one that comes right after. And now that you've done the group stage and are getting into playoffs, are you getting the energy back or is it still just going through the motions? I'll honestly, there is no team in the season that won the tournament two times in a row, I think. So we did a very big job, preparations to the last tournament, Valace, that we won. And to Dream League, we didn't work that much, we basically was chilling two weeks and got on all bootcamps all day before the remake, so we don't have much expectations from this tournament. We just try our best with whatever we have on our hands. Gotcha. Well, thankfully, based off of the way that all the other teams played out, you guys are at least qualified for the eSports World Cup, so at least there you're safe. I'm going to pass you on over to Kezi, who's got questions for you as well. Yo, what's up, Katoomi? I saw saved last night at 1AM watching some replays. Is he the type of guy that watches them and then keeps to himself? Or did he look at the Spirit games and then he came to you guys like, yo, we did this, we should make Duda's better? Different time to time. So if you see something that's here or not, tell us. But usually he does it until 6am, watch the replays, Zorkoč. He's a hard worker. And speaking of the Spirit series, they seem to be in very good form and they did beat you guys, OM2 yesterday. Is there something specific that this team does that makes it difficult or even when you lose, do you look more at yourself? Is it like a balance of both? Versus Spirit. We just threw the first game very hard on Wisdom Run. I lost Jam and Kiritic died. We just lost this game as well. And second game, I feel like there was a big out draft. And now much gameplay. And then speaking of, because you're talking about the Outlast, there aren't that many nearly plus buys that are good right now. I'll say like clock and tusk seem like the best. So they played three and twice. What do you think about this hero? Trent is Really good here like not the OP just Good here if clock is banned and if The guy don't play tusk and say the third hero is Trent Okay, so he's mainly he's just a replacement for the other two bros I mean, for me, I just really like the little picktasker probably in a game over at Prang. That sounds good. Thank you. That's all. I have one more hero question for you. You're picking quite a lot of Bane. Initially we thought it was just because it was like a pango counter pick, but now it seems like you guys are throwing it into any draft. How do you like playing Bane? Were you bringing up the idea, or Bulk was like, yo, Katoma, you're playing Bane. It's good. I didn't on practice game, you can play a single game on the special game, you just run the play count to discussion during the draft, that is good for multiple reasons. So yeah. Well, you're making it look good despite the lack of practice. Katomi, congratulations on this series victory against Vici Gaming and looking forward to finding out who your opponent will be later on. Congratulations again. Thank you. Bye bye. See you later. Man just rolls up to this tournament and says, I don't know anything about this hero, and then pulls frame perfect invulnerabilities on Zeus, Thunder God's wrath. He's just vibing, you know? Sometimes he's just got to feel good and the plays, you know, they just shoot out naturally. So unnatural. Hear me out, Neil. He basically was like, oh, the best heroes against Snapfire mid are Invoker and Zeus. I can nightmare save against the Sun Strike or the Zeus ulti, it's a hard counter. Yo, if he reads the Sun Strike, that's the next level. For right now though, their next level is moving on into a lower bracket around 4 as they have defeated Vici Gaming after the full 3 game series. And their opponents will be the winners of a Na'Vi vs. Playtime. That series however will be coming tomorrow as Na'Vi were the last series to play yesterday. So we're giving them a little bit of a rest. Meanwhile there is no rest for the liquids and extremes of the world. Then it's going to be our final series of the night. Stick around everyone and we'll be back with our third. That's a 3. Find that place, take me away Let's go, we can live that life, baby It's simple, it blows my mind Just take a deep talk, leave it all behind And I'll meet you in the sweet sunshine In the sweet sunshine, we'll sing Living for the moment, all the roads are open Can't you see? Oh, oh, oh Don't care where we're going We're just roller coaster to the beat Oh, oh, oh, oh Break, don't wanna wait Don't wait, can't make me stay No, I'm, I'm gonna fight That place, take me away Let's go, we can live that life Baby, it's simple If I lose my mind It's taking me to leave it all behind And I'll be trapped in the sweet sunshine In the sweet sunshine In the sweet sunshine I don't wanna, wanna wait They're not gonna make me stay I don't wanna walk that way They're not gonna make me stay Let's go, we can live the life we need to hold If I want my mind to take this deep talk Leave it all behind and I'll meet you In the sweet sunshine I've got a feeling that's the reason that you're walking through my life I can't pay my stars or superstitions, cause you know I'm not the type I've got a feeling that you're thinking that I'm crazy but you're wrong I feel as if I caught you standing there But think I'm dreaming, cause I've been waiting for so long And in all of this, you got through my mind There are some things that just feel so right But you're not on the way, can it be? Dream League Season 29 is brought to you by DHL and Chex. It is time for the final series of The Night and Elimination series between Liquid and extreme where Avery has felt a muse presented itself in the previous series and what are you what are you doodling on our canvas now the Nimbus strike you know I felt inspired by that game I thought you I thought you did because about exhilarating that game was right yes I was shocked oh god I messed it up Talked like a electric Nimbus lightning bolt Fury on getting thunder struck In excitement what a thrilling match that was yes No, I enjoyed I enjoyed you I enjoyed you as well. Yes There's a rule in casting when the game gets wacky either get wacky with it or you get whacked going that's true time on our wac-off the cast. I can't remember. Wac-off, Wac-off, Wac-off. Yeah, Wac-off, Wac-on, yeah. We'll get whacked on to this series because it's liquid versus extreme, facing elimination, and liquid's down here in lower bracket. Brian, how did they end up here? Yeah, thank you, Neil. For today's series, I was looking at liquid throughout this tournament, and they've had pretty good success, but it's also been very polarizing polarizing looking at Nikkei's hero pool and so Nikkei's been often caught playing the soul damage dealer on his team and the teams that he's lost to In this case team spirit, they simply spent all game saying this is their only source of damage We're just gonna hunt this guy consistently. So you saw faces boy corner used on him This is them missing and being like, okay, nope We're not gonna fight and this is the next instance where where the last Chronosphere was the one that you just saw about 10 minutes ago, and Team Spirit then just says, okay, this is Mickey's life as the Morita. We all love clockwork, a very fun world to play against in the current meta. And Yachtro is like, okay, for good measure, I'm just gonna solo Chrono you. So this is one way that they've been removing Mickey from the equation, is just by effectively putting all the spells on them. This is what Team Spirit did to them. Now there was one other way that Mickey has been effectively nullified as the sole damage dealer for Team Liquid, and that was against Falcons, who actually went for the Mars against SF. So what you're going to see instead of killing him is a hero that just removes Mickey from the fight. And I want to emphasize that he is their sole source of damage, and this fight he is isolated within the arena, and he's not able to hit. The fight is going to proceed to go on for quite some time. You're seeing Mickey finally get to be able to dish out some of that damage. So watch as this re-engage happens, they're going to chase further Falcons as he's going to hit the pango and Amar is going to blink in and use Bulwark so that he cannot be hitting the pango who's going to get away forced to BKB and eventually after the BKBs run out on these ranged turret type carries, this is the inevitable result. And when we see the results of their games, Mikkei on these ranged turrets is 1 and 6 for this tournament and all the other heroes that are either off map flash farmers or Melee Pacers, he's 11 and 1. So basically what I'm looking for today going into the series is Team Liquid's Mickey's carry pool. I'd really love to see him on something like the Tiny or the Kez. They look especially like, I wouldn't even mind if they picked the Monkey King that we just saw, from DD Team. I mean for me that's where they shine and for whatever reason the turrets aren't quite working for him the same way it is for other teams. I don't blame them for relentlessly trying it over and over again, though, because prior... Okay, so in the past 12 months, Mckay started out with a 13-game win streak on Shadowfiend, did not drop a single game for... That's a lot of games. Up until two months ago, and ever since two months ago, he is now on a 6-game loss streak on Shadowfiend. Why do you know that? The actual data... That's a big up, dude. They're starting from Valakia two months ago. He has lost. I don't believe that against spirit He lost against the andex twice he lost against Aurora those against Falcons lost against party. Yes Yeah, very convenient. You just have all that or in mind that card, you know I don't know part of this one hosted a gaslighting you into hating your favorite players. Oh, I thought that was a great presentation What I took away from that is that Mickey he's a carry. He doesn't know how to right-click This guy dumb or what like you can't right-click right-click carry. He has to play bristleback that don't right click Don't make no sense Brian. Yeah, why don't we just re-take that? That's exactly what I why he no right click better Why he no right click check him PC check him keyboard That's a streak that you are talking about. Yeah, I would attribute that to SF getting nerfed Yeah, that hero was ridiculously strong certain point Lots of experience of Jenkins You didn't get that one! You didn't get that one! You didn't get that one! It's harder to execute. The thing is with ranged turrets, I think Mikkei as a carry thrives when he joins fights early. He's really good at playing semi-carries, he's really good at setting pace. Liquid to me have always looked the best historically, and you have the double semi-carry from Nisha and Mikkei. But when he's playing a ranged turret and is the sole source of damage, he's unable to put himself in those early game positions that could compromise his game. Like there's a lot more responsibility in that and looking at your stats, Brian. I mean, they, I hope that they've looked at that and seen that too, because that is a big discrepancy. I hope they know. I feel like it's also a combination of like when they pick the race turrets, they have like a Triumph 5, like a tied off lane and like a Rubik 4, like very utility heavy, low damage. And I'm wondering if this is also potentially a problem because of Ace's hero pool and not saying it's like Ace's fault, but I think this meta is a bit strange for for Liquid right now because Ace wants to be the aura buyer. Like we remember his days on Game and Gladiators. A lot of the offlaners are playing much more for themselves, they're playing much more. Like we're even seeing like offlane dawns with Ekko, say, or Harpoon, BKB, Basher. You know, this isn't the, like you can still go the Krumzens in the pipes, but that's not really what is popular right now. And I'm wondering is Liquid gonna be able to do the class of Liquid where they adjust mid tournament, but I also just think it's not a favorable meta for their strategies. We'll see if Liquid can find their footing, we're gonna need to find it now in this elimination series, so let's get into Liquid vs Xtreme. I wouldn't say that necessarily because of Ace and me joining, that we changed things with consistency. Everyone's playing their part and also like pushing it a lot and trying to keep responsibility for progress with what heroes we play, like drafts, no approach things. I hope that we can quickly adjust our current 4-5 goals, my personal goal. I hope that we can quickly understand and play better before the final game. I think this is the most important thing. He looks to take down XXX as he tries to flee. Nicely done there. It's going to be a one for one though, but G3's in some trouble. Slow down there now. The chrono spear comes out. There's no sunray to heal up this fan. So this fan's going to pull his army moving forward here with the time bomb. Gets himself a double kill. There's now FBZ in some trouble. He can't return. Enemy up in the air wants to put the BKB dragon stealth away and he'll get out. That's the back of the Horde. Next witness the game, coming in though for turn point of the tritism, the hex is down, retando, on towards the ledge, on towards the wall falls, and the trees, Mikkei coming back in over the wall, two of them, they should have cleaned up the big kill, taking out of the game, they panic on. Stream gaming, I can never doubt the army. If everyone's like individually in good spots, I don't know which is show up. Can never doubt AME, it's good words to live by the AME, die by the AME, and we'll see which one ends up surviving as we get into this elimination series. Now both these teams are indeed qualified for the eSports World Cup because we've got hard data and numbers behind it. But I do think that for at least Xtreme, doing well in Dream League Season 29 may may have implications on a potential TI invite, because those things are much more mysterious. We don't have numbers for that. Do you think every extreme are contenders for a TI invite right now? Yes. Okay. Based off of results or just based off the fact that, you know, it's on there, we got to invite on there. No, purely because it's in China. Sure, okay. I don't think Valve will not invite at least one Chinese Chinese TI. Do they deserve it? Probably not. I think if you look at the EO breakdown, there's not a Chinese Chinese team in the top 8? Correct. Ah, so... If there are only 8 invites then yeah. Yeah, a little dubious. Someone needs to fix the Evo chart, obviously, because that just doesn't sound correct. Because it's not representative of the true skill of Aimei Extreme. I still believe there is a TI-winning Chinese team out there that is some combination of like the 12 players that have been recycled through XG and LGD over the last two years. I just don't know what that combination is, and at this point we're just trying to brute force. It's like a padlock where you go through every number combination. There's a right one in there. The thing is, China does well at TI, like the last few TI's like there's secured pretty good spots, and you can't really count them out, ever. But they need to be able to attend the tournament first to be well at it. That's very true, but I think Avery makes a great point about it being pretty ridiculous if they're not at a China TI. I mean, let's hope so, but if they lose this series then you're looking at their trajectory at various tournaments and being like, I don't know about this. Yeah, I mean that extreme was kind of the opposite of liquid like they started the tournament really hot They won their first four games. Yeah stage and then they ended up going like three and nine I think including the tiebreakers and two of those losses were to nigma galaxy 2-0 and no No flame on nigma galaxy, but they had been winless at that point in the tournament And that was the game that on a early range GG'd out of the game. I guess early GG fair more politically correct. Right after dying No, not an unemotional Gigi purely objective purely like let's go next, but Was it I mean when you're the I feel like he was trying to say good job in all that Because of the bear play and he mistyped that wasn't it was a good job It was a cool little my one of the type G.J. And you type Gigi by accident and then what I can't take it back I'm a man of my word sometimes you just have a rough day not on me he'll be able to bounce back I guess I'm just thinking like after that series yeah they did beat Reconyx but then they've lost six games that is what I actually wanted to bring up yeah they're on a six game lost streak and before that I think they were on a four game lost streak before they broke it with a double win yes they got most of their wins the first couple of days no I thought what really worked for extreme when they bounce back from their The last week was that they came in with a very specific idea for how they wanted to draft and they were able to pull it off. But it's like, we're not going to vary too much, we're going to have a replacement hero for whatever it is that we think will work today and they play off of that. The issue is when that gets identified. So what I'm talking about is their pangolier plus downbreaker combination, that they like to be recrafted and it worked really well for them. Other teams saw that quickly. And liquid were right to ban it out because they do indeed it take out the pangolier in the first phase Along with a little NTS tanker timbersaw clockwork and lone druid Extreme do a little targeting of their own they take out a niches puck a cas a doom a lichen and a techies First pick themselves a rubik and liquid respond with a slardar and then a hoodwink Do a panda impression you I'm not there's nothing to crunch on they just eat bamboo all day do a voice. They don't make do they make noises. Oh My god, that was perfect I could remember how they sounded but now I Know what comes back to me much as how draw ranger always comes back to a man So many of his wins in the first few days were on the shoulders of this frosty lady Lady, at least let's give it back. Yeah, usually teams have been going for Muerta as like the range carry to likely lane against the Slaughter. Drow will do just as well in lane, but I think the inherent issue with Drow compared to Muerta is that later on, you at least have like a oh shit button when the Slaughter jumps you. It also dispels you, but with the Drow, you can go the Hurricane Pike and the Manta, but it's gonna shut down the Slaughter, 100%. Now, for Liquid, are they going to decide to rotate this Florida or Tunisia and maybe give Ace a bit better of a matchup? I do think targeting Ace in the early game is a good way to play against Team Liquid. I think the Rubik, yes, something that Extreme has been prioritizing a lot of tournament, but it's also just a great deny pick to Underlord, whose Ace is like signature hero across every patch. He has like a 70% win rate with it in his career. So I'm just wondering, I do think this poses a difficult puzzle for Team Liquid, which is getting ace off to a decent start. Also stuff's up for a good underlord for them. I don't like this pick, man. The Phoenix or the Drow? The Drow, it's too forced here, you know? You don't see enough. Ace plays a lot of summons. All of Nikkei's hero pool outside of the turrets that he sucks on are like hero jumpers, the monk yee, the furion, all the stuff that can play really fast. You don't stop, you open the map because why do you need the Drow this early? To me, this is just like, Aame, what are you gonna play? He's like, give me the Drow Ranger. Okay, that's not gonna be a strange turn. That's not an idea, that's not a strat. Now you get Tiny. I think Tiny's just been a way more impressive hero than Drow 2. Not that Drow's bad, but... I don't know, I'm not sold on this man, it's just... Sus. Big Sus. I think the Phoenix was kind of meant to cover the Tiny a little bit, like... Because you have the attack speed slows and the % base damage HP, but... Yeah, I... I don't know, I hate playing Drow into Tiny. Like, these heroes like Drow and Sniper, if you get tossed in you're just gonna die. And Florida Tiny, the ambush potential is immense. The question I have is, is Xtreme gonna be able to group up around each other? Cause if they have each other's backs, you have like the Rubik's Shard from FY, you have even like a late game Phoenix Egg with Ags, cause they don't really have anybody to kill the egg on Team Liquid. Like there are options if you're together on Xtreme Gaming, but I think Team Liquid have the inverse amount of playmaking potential as VG Gaming did in game 3 there. They have a lot of playmaking potentials when I'm trying to see you guys. I think that was a really long way. I picked up the pieces. Thank you. Go ahead, Mayor. I am so long. Back to you, Mayor. Now I enjoyed that rant. That was good. Now you're right. I really do like what Liquid has and I like that their ability to, like, move in and out of the fight also exists on their supports. The user supports that are going to naturally build high items and they're not going to put themselves in a position to get beat up by the draw ranger. And if you look at XD's draft, they try to correct their, oh, we've got three ranged heroes with minimal lockdown. They try to correct it with a Dawnbreaker, but I don't think she does that nearly as well. She's more of a hero that's going to cover for you. Now the onus is on NTS to play the hero to bring this all together. If my team has no initiation in a pub and my guy picks awfully a Dawnbreaker, like, well, we still have no initiation, like... I-I-Don wants to be able to have responsive and proactive use of her ulti. Like, we saw in the previous series of Bebbin, like, they always picked Donbreaker with Storm Spirit, right? Like, a hero... yes, Storm Spirit. Uh, some-some jump hero. So, NTS definitely needs that. But then he's also going to be the sole playmaker for their team. their team and he's dealing with a 10th pick Nisha counter pick which I would never want to be anyone in that situation that's why I think this is a fundamentally bad setup against Liquid. I think the two things you don't want to give Liquid are tempo on you which mainly comes from Nikkei's hero, you know how basing your carry and being able to lose and you don't want to give Nisha a matchup that he can crush. It's like okay if you lose it slightly because he's not a truly nominator player but if he's able to just counter pick crush it that also gives them anything on tempo you're really screwed I think extreme have given them both of those things here but how do you crush a Beastmaster mid that is a little tough yeah maybe he's gonna play like sniper some stupid ass shit I wouldn't mind a sniper extreme gaming staff to me like it can work if they win their lanes and then they just run at everything early on and they don't try to take the gameplay. Like, if they manage to out-piece like wood, which is going to be quite hard because of liquids bright and butter, then it's fine. Otherwise, it looks pretty miserable because you're only working with a roar. That's basically it. Like, you have this Phoenix, that's gonna be your big team fight, but what happens when everyone just runs away from the egg? There's nothing really stopping it. So you don't have the means to take these proper fights later on, But if you win your lanes, and you get early agences, maybe you don't need to take proper fights. Maybe you just run down lanes. Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm just a bit concerned that Extreme Gaming's lineup is very one-dimensional. It's going to be a roar into a Dombrey girl T, and then the other three heroes have to be prepared to follow up. If they're responding, I think everything you just said is true, where Team Liquid has great poke, they're just going to force out the Dawn ulti, force out the egg, disengaged low cooldown heroes that can blink back in in like 12 seconds. So I think team liquids draft is way easier to play. Nisha didn't go for like the lane domination route. Ember I think is even slightly disadvantaged against Deastmaster mid, but it's Nisha Ember. He's going to have a decent start at the very minimum. He's another hero that runs a drow. I'm nervous for Aame's early game, just generally getting dove underneath his towers. I think it's going going to have to be a decent start from Amé and a above average start from XXS so that he can be that pressure reliever on the gangs that are happening. Do you want to see extreme gaming roll this game? Roll, yes. Rolling egg gathers no loss Brian. Lost set. That's a phrase. I've definitely heard that before. Like that shit Neil. But the tiny's on the other side. That's why I'm here baby. Thank you. I do like... I like Ember here because the only playmaking on Extreme Gaming is coming from the Rubik Plastik and Xtund. These are not the parts that run Ember Spirit. It's gonna be the other way around. He's gonna be running at them and making their lives miserable. Free Ember game, no low cooldown stun. He's gonna run the map. 16-0 for Nisha. This game's gonna end at 30 minutes. Terrible draft from Extreme. But I will support my brother, Aame, because I'm a big fan. I wish to see them win. Gio. Pop and lock that shit, Neil. Shesha, he needs our security, he needs our strength right now. Because you've already predetermined 16-0, Nisha? Yes, I called it 16-0, Nisha. Are you ready for game number one? Let's get into it with Agarrus and Lick-Cost. Let's put down their hands up for the tournament. Are you ready? Anyway, there's tiny, incredible heroes as long as I love to fight a lich, and a lot of flakes keep spinning in the air for extreme gaming. Reactive spells, the dawn break ult, and a fetish enemy to protect army and his growl ranger. As they've got a lot of work to do extreme to go up against Liquid, because the journey against this team hasn't been easy. That's right Gary, it has been pretty atrocious. The last time ExtremeGaming managed to get to victory against Team Liquid was during Valakia Season 1. If you don't remember what this happened, it's been two years exactly since Xtreme Gaming managed to get a victory in a series against Liquid. And then 13 times in a row, they threw four times, but they lost nine. And this was a very long time ago. There were also some different rosters, different players as well. But I also got to say, I don't know if Xtreme Gaming watched the last game of the previous series. I feel like it's gonna be the exact same issue that they don't get to play it again. At least they picked the Beastmaster from the mid lane so I think it needs to be him popping off. If he's shut down, again, they don't have the playmaker. His blink timing has to be supreme. I mean, we're already seeing Armageddon bullied in lane as Tofu and Ace straight down the gullet of this dry ranger Foxy helping out a tri-lane to get things off. Not happy times all but tiny down at bottom. So we got a blessing to the Fy Rubik drawing first blood against Mikkei. Okay, I guess Mikkei did not respect the damage that could potentially come out, knowing that there's going to be a tri-lane, but they're also zoning out Ame right now, sitting at 0 CS. And then you see Ace dragging the creep wave as well, so that's going to be a free way for him. This is something that might be slightly tricky, playing for Slaughter into double-range matchup. So they are manipulating the creep wave, so that's gonna be nice. I don't think that death for Mickey matters as much. He did lose some of the XP. This is something that, like, Liquid tried to cook with some of their drafts as well. I remember, like, six months or a year ago when they were playing, like, giving level two to a certain hero and then just having that extra bit of bones in the lane. And boy, after getting that first blood, he's feeling himself at level two already. Chipped away that lich and I guess in that situation as team liquid you've got to sell the situation, right? If you're sending the trial in top make a kind of has to pretend that there are two heroes bottom So it's not super obvious Trouble was yeah, it was over. I was trying to think of the hero because I remember The thing but I couldn't remember the heroes very well So they gave ogre like level two which was his level time. Yeah, that was pretty nasty Okay, I said not a massive deal soon enough stick around in lane can rock some last hits Just got to contest these balls into large camp now Ex-excess this dorm breaker has been a pretty spectacular hero over the past couple of days I'm showing prowess in lane Miro in particular has been winning off lane with his hero just outspamming your opponent Pushing lane then playing backwards Of course when you get to mid game that ability to react with stop guardian You can farm very nicely and split. Absolutely. What a hero. WS kinda... Solo won the game as well yesterday. Game 2 and Game 3 completely popped off on this hero. Allows you to stay on top of the network, especially off to a good start. Then you can be always on the other side of the map. Join in the fight. The most difficult thing about the hero is when you need to press the alt pretty much. Everything else feels more than fine. And looking at the mid matchup, but not for now. Miike, they are playing aggressive. It's still level 2 on Tiny. No tolls, I can think of anything. This is where X-XS life flourishes. Last move on to Tofu gets the kill on a Lich. So they protect FY, get X-XS, and another kill on this lane. And 1-0-1 on him. Same story for Rubik. Offlane doing very well for Xtreme. That level 3 on Dawnbreaker is such a huge increase of damage. Nisha, in the mid-lane he can't really kill the boss, that's the power of this matchup, but Avery called it 16 and 0, Nisha coming out in this series, in this game. It's one of his best overall heroes. There are certain spells that he's going to be afraid of, the instant lift from Rubik into Silence, Roar, Dawnbreaker as well. The only one who doesn't have any kind of lockdown is going to be Phoenix. There's also a bit of a combo that we haven't talked about, it is Phoenix plus Dawnbreaker of T. You have that extra bit of a damage coming out because it turns us into daytime, super Noah, and then with the break of dawn you have the maximum amount of damage. Daytime, daytime. Man, I'll step up. Push flank back and catch army. Got a chip damage for the Drow, I'll box him into the trees. That's over though with this dive forward. Get to put them out of position, but they're hugging each other. There's Drown Phoenix making sure no one gets isolated. I mean, Ace is now waiting for his boost and regen to arrive. Very difficult matchup for Ace, it's kind of close to impossible to play into, there's almost no way to get a kill and you can also see that Moxid did go for one point in Skariage just to make sure that he can try to run away through the threes, have that extra bit of a boost speed. Usually we see 4-4-0 build on hoodwinks nowadays, maximizing the damage output. Very strong landing stage, run extreme across the board, all top three last hitters, these marks are 30 and 12, racking up some nice denies out of that mid lane. Also shutting down Nikkei, 24 for him, 18, all burns down, the firing spirit is thrown in by X-Nurbe gets the kill, as a new wave approaches, so him dying there for 10 seconds, Foxy, that's the character. Foxy is fine with this one. This is the classic position for, in fact, that solo XP. But you're off later. He's going to need something. Flyer is also not the type of a hero that farms stacks really well. You might be able to clear the big camps, but also farming ancients. It's not something that he does extremely well. Pre-shard, so his game is kind of cooked. Like, he's going to need to be in a lot of recovery mode. So I want to see Nisha making his rotation to try to fix some of these issues in the side lanes. Okay, that's a kill. Checked an FY and a good sinister case. Stopped the Starbreaker landing to make success. He was very willing to keep on chasing with 8-1 charges. First roar of the game, down bottom. Six-minute rune is spawned elsewhere though, so NTS has spent it. Well, that's nerve-wracking, grab the invasions and eyes away from Boxy and Nisha. NTS, a little bit unlucky there. Nothing that he would have killed him, but also he doesn't get to replenish his bottle using drawer which is going to be on cooldown for another 70 seconds Okay, just trying to hug the trees doesn't want to get called by FY again tofu now without access to the sacrifice to deny out some of these creeps push like lands mid though sure with the steering chains and the flame guard up under tower Risky business, but still gonna get the kill tower hits land but not enough to finish. Go down to bottom lane, Mickey. Having low grenades right at him. He's spending the faith balls. X-XS has another Celestial Hammer. Dives another tower, again this lich. Causing problems for the combo, but puts Tofu in harm's way, so losing him instead of Mickey. Mickey's too low, and they also saw that Boxy doesn't have a TP ready when he was making that move in the mid lane, so they decided to dive using the glint as well, and they scanned, So they know Mickey's here scan on scan. They found it cut down the trees Misha's rotation with the two-man chains chronic ram Fy here, buddy In again Dodgers out starbreaker kills the rubik You have enough left in the tank to finish off xxs has earned ready as I have it a high ground chains comes in It's fun way healing this don't break her a touch and Nisha giving chase another flight Writes him down in the rotation for this Emberspray, playing off big time. He's got one charge to play with, another set of chains in a moment. Oh, the burn through the tree line kills him off. Action over, though. Can you juk out this? Miike's gonna say no. They need to give it to Miike. Avalanche and a whackdown. What? The Phoenix into the ground. Miike fixing pretty much all the issues. They are overextending. They killed Miike, but Miike immediately ready. And again, Boxy, he is, on a different side of the map, might need to actually deny himself to these creeps. Looks like it. Jumped off in the jungle, where she belongs. Liquid bringing a bit of firepile out, finally, and the lane stage is really slipping away from them. In the first seven minutes, so much so that Wisdom's trying to still be here on the right hand side, the way that Xtreme's playing aggressively, and now losing it on the tier one mid lane nothing to say gets a good push on forward this is that mid lane B-Smas they're going to the agonim scepter as well as we've seen a lot of offlane B-Smas to revert to the hell. Oh the boxy gets deny. Very nice. This comes in takes it out. He's trying to catch up in the jungle. Be contested by the Phoenix and forced away. The bully X Nova looking for a curious, right? I get a roar back in the jungle though, unboxing one side of the ancients dead to neutral cap, the other side of the ancients dead to his beast master. MTS is having a pretty good game, he just killed a mid tower while nature was making that rotation to the bottom lane and now making a rotation into tri- lane triangles, securing the tower in the top lane as well so the map does open up for them, no TP's available which is gonna slow down the way liquid can react to some of these moves that extreme gaming are gonna make. 3k gold lead already, pre-10 minutes. Yeah, incredible start for them, up to 4 now. Super important, yeah this beast master didn't get shut down like you and the panel were saying, this agonist step during the blink timing, vitally important so they can actually use that support aggressively. Currently playing through X-XS, right onto Mickey with F-Y-N-X Nova behind this dawn breaker. Okay, it's on the run, but a Toss for what sends the Torn onto him. That's why Rubik! That's all we're gonna have the right tool at the right time. That Stolen Toss gives them that extra bit of a... extra Punchy Power that they need. Nisha is gonna pick up the Haste Rune Gun, straight into Spirit's Vessel, wants to have that extra bit of a damage and reduce some of the healing that they do have. Sunray only level one, but very efficient against Dawnbreaker. And also just the damage output that you can deal with this item especially through initiating first. If you have two charges then use the second one. But to haste, they're looking for something. I'm trying to defend this bottom tier one. You can't keep giving away map space to extreme like this. Defend your tinies, defend one of your side lanes. I brought numbers down here, Liquid. Not able to head straight on into a team-flight though. So I sent Nisha back towards mid. Slarnaz not going to be joining. No opportunity. And to me extreme and it might just be tofu getting found in the trees TV down here. Misha's dead solo. Tofu's gonna have frost shield himself up get out. It's not gonna bound for us That's not gonna work out. I'm not gonna say got a solo killer Misha in the mid lane That's a massive one. That's gonna give him an extra 500 gold almost 357 okay, I may be exaggerated there, but yep, Beastmaster Agadam sector timing This is going to be some 13 minute Agadam Scepter on Beastmaster. Usually we saw this a lot, where people were going for Roshan straight away. Not sure if they're going to be able to do it, but the setup is definitely there. Having tier 1 tower killed in the mid lane, killed in the top lane as well. Roshan is on the top side of the map, so if they want a TP, they might need the TP to an outpost. And again, playing super aggressive. Ensure that H-Fruin stole the Stamper Frost. It bounces back in. Nisha died a third time. No sixteen and a nil for him here. Actually gaming, choosing violence in game one. 7k lead, eleven to five, dominating across all three lanes. All the tier ones are gone. And now, you'll protect the active runes. Nobody beat extreme gaming for two years in a row. Apparently not. We'll see how the series goes though. Game one, that's one thing. Right now, dominating. Slardar's still having a very slow start. You can see how quickly, how tiny, can come out with some explosive damage once he gets his items. Alright now it's a matter of getting there. And that's Tofu, he's being wrapped back from his own ancient spot. Liquid not going to give up an inch of this space on the map without a fight though. Scrapping into FY but solid guard in stun rate. Almost enough to heal him but not quite. And they don't get the turn, so a chain frost in, bounces into the back line and is nothing to say, he'll war up the Ember spirit, hammer forward and starbreaker but cancelled. Ace stops XXS and a Remnant of Safety gives me to the bridge. I'm 18 this fall. But now they've lost the Ace Slardar trapped up on the high ground with no room to run. Caww. They're bringing in numbers, they've brought the whole squad. Unfortunately for them, FY dies because of the spirit's vessel, it was not enough to heal him straight away, you could see him try to linger inside of that radius of Donbreaker Aldi, and they're also gonna be stealing stats, who said that on the quarter, he can farm them, but it takes him quite a lot of time and quite a lot of resources to farm it. Tiny meant 5k at 13 minutes. This is not where you want to be with the hero. Like, Mikkei, he started off pretty badly getting first blooded. I thought it was not gonna be that big of a problem, but they also came down to a lane, and then harassed Lich so much they were unable to play aggressive. And they saw liquid trial in army in the first 30 seconds. I said, okay, we can do that as well. Send the phoenix down through the gate, kill off the tiny. Force that to one. Liquid got to do something now. Running out of oxygen as they're being suffocated on the map. Oxy, Nisha, tofu, smoking up top. But there are scans on scans. Radiant scammed up top. Now, in a glimpse of this army drought, a huge takeoff to snipe out and kill, making something out of nothing. A little too greedy there from Amé, knowing that there is no Dawnbreaker Alt-T was uncooled down still for 15 seconds. He has pretty much the whole map to farm, but wanted to be slightly more greedy. And also his itemization, we saw it. I'll hold that thought. Ah, just trying to brawl on Tofu, isn't it? Frost Shield's stolen. Nothing to say again, making his mark on this game. Yeah, there was a game, Amei seemed to be always obsessed with one hero during Dream League. This time around it is gonna be Draw Ranger. And to go for Agatom Scepter in a couple of games pretty much straight away, Falcon Blade and Agatom Scepter. This time around, often to go for Yasha. Everybody go through the gate. I had an interesting idea, Gary. Did you? I did, yeah. What if you... Like, what if these gates work the same way the outpost works? The more people are going through the gates, the faster it goes. I'm sure it should be slower if you're all trying to jam through the door at the same time. I kinda knew you were gonna say that. You're just being too logical. That's where my brain works. Are you trying to all squeeze through the door frame at the same time? Sure, no. Level 2 Dawnbreaker Altim now available with Ekko Saber on top of that plus charge, so he has extra way of having that debuffed immunity for a short period of time, but it might be enough. They have very strong timing. They have Aghanim Scepter on Beastmaster. 15 minutes in. On to the Pinnagates. They want to be taking this bottom part of the map. That's only 16 minutes in, isn't it? I don't know. They're going to go Tormentor or something. Now they're looking for kills. There is Roshan. So probably looking for a pick-off into Roshan at this point. Deep observables that did get placed by Boxy. But him in an awkward position, but he's shot himself down to low ground and scurries away. Anisha's looking for the 16 minute rune, amplify damage up on top, draw a ranger, forces him back, already put him at half health. So it doesn't even get the chance to get the active rune. Let's cross down and get real nasty now. Nothing to say. 600 until Blink Dagger, and that's where things get even more challenging for Liquid. So far it's been extreme gaming, walking at you. Kind of slowly approaching, taking a large space of the map away from you. When NTS has Blink, all of a sudden the game changes, and it's Blink, Roar, Solar Guardian, and follow-through. They can both play aggressively. Yeah, this is supposed to be the game plan for Liquid, where they have three melee cores that enter build into a Blink Dagger, or can easily close the gap. But also, have in mind, I talked about the Agatham Scepter, this is the item that like, keep getting buffed in a way, and now also modifies incoming healing with Agatham Scepter, which was supposed to work, but it didn't for whatever reason, and bonus damage has been increased across arrows in general. You're also playing against three melee heroes, though. If you manage to get a kill and you have pretty good burst on your side, they explode, and it's in 650 radius, so that's gonna be a good amount of damage plus a good amount of slow as well. Yeah, we saw it in the previous series, Pure Touch Drow Ranger. If you're able to stand on a high ground or tuck yourself away somewhere and just launch multi-shot, you can shred through people. Thinking about how Liquid approach fights, there's a lot of dog piling that can happen. You want to try and kill off a beast or a dawn, they're tanky, they get healed up. Tiny Ambron Slaughter, jump with the same target. Liquid have got to do a lot of kiting to get away from this Drow and that's split damage. Okay, can't even step out of the mid lane. I'm held away past the tower. Okay, a steep east master behind the tower with this observer ward, but he's the one holding the Aegis and also not too many people in vicinity to potentially get a kill and maybe run away, but there's also, you gotta respect the onbreaker ulti. How are you just playing keep away right now? No intent to go head on into any of these big team fights. Keep them at arm's reach. Try and kite, juke away, drag them from one side of the map to the other. Burn through a little bit of the time of this Aegis. Nisha's not locked in. I'm looking the way he's getting on camera. He's like slowly gonna be under the table soon. He's slipping, he's slouching, sliding off his chair. Needs to get the classic blitz chair-sitting technique locked in, where you kneel down and face the other way. At least Neisha knows that he's not under too many difficulties in that bottom lane, seeing a dawnbreaker there. Play into that lane. AK on the other hand, as you see this one coming. Clears out the golden cap, but immediately MTS, blank, shoulder-guard in, raw, catch, kill, tiny gets. Roy, ace in the meantime when they should go, they're on the dry range at top. That's a big trade for Liquid, being behind, getting carried for carry, feels pretty good. Again, Amé in the same spot when his team is making a move on a different side of the map. He needs to be somewhere else. He needs to be either in a triangle, or needs to be slightly further away from this tier one tower, because he's got him killed already twice. Ace finally getting involved. As Florida, 19 minutes in, picking up his blink dagger. Again, we said it's going to be a very difficult game for him, knowing what he was playing into in the lane, and another pick-off, nothing to state, some roar again. He's running away with this. 11,000 net worth, a draw ranger, one thing to carry, but you've got the Stormbreaker and Beastmaster with tons of net worth, running the map and making it very difficult for liquid and fans on any lane. Dyer's top tower is under attack. And Snover sitting up top and showing... Radiant's middle tower. There's Trito coming in behind him. Could find a free and easy kill. He can stick around for the last hits. So blink stun. Catch him with the Remnant Chains. Slight him down. A little bit more breathing room here for Liquid. Anything they can get right now. They kind of managed to stabilize in the last few minutes. The 6K Gold lead. Never mind. They just kill the tormentor so everybody gets a bunch of gold up to 8k Excuse us. Hey just keep playing forward as well Another roar this time it onto Mickey Big ol solar garden coming in but do they have revealed to the they need it? Tiny's difficult now is past the trees into the fog. Out of Eston's Distiller Charges, he'll use vision, very good item. The reason why we're seeing it so much on Rubik is, first of all, it provides vision. You don't have to invest as much gold into sentries and dust, and also allows you to have vision off the target that you want to be stealing the spells from. Mekka is now at the point where tiny, I'd be able to make moves. Shadowplate Tiny often able to get out on the map and be a threat. Especially for this draw ranger who has crumbled a little bit in about 10 minutes. Play stream gaming, play tight together. The draw plays top jungle, hiding away. The other members of them into that southern jungle trying to play into some Observer wards. Liquid continued to play Keepaway, and once they've hemmed extreme gaming back to the wall in this top lane, they're actually pivoting towards enemy engines with Boxy and Nisha. Look at the vision that they're placing behind enemy lines trying to find something. Boxy has one observer ward left, and he also picked up a blink dagger, which is a bit of an unconventional build, but seems like he wants to be able to go in and get out of the fight. Get a quick pick off, there he is. Try and clear the edges, pull the garden in onto FY to heal and roar back on the hoodwink. Box you down. Do you think the essence of Skiller has the same liquid in it that the Prophet's pendulum does? Does they look kind of the same? It's that same green liquid. Is it the same liquid that's in a cell? I don't know. Haven't tasted the liquid, Gary. No? little sip. I mean Clarity's blue, some of this green. Bottles blue. Bottle is blue. You're right! Bottle! That's Skeeter's bottle. Skeeter's bottle's bill difference. What about Collapsus Bottle? He's got a massive jug of water. He does, it's. He's got a big sippy cup. Ten gates of the good now. Playing both twin gates. What are they doing? Waiting for Nisha? Nisha's bringing his linkage here. It feels like the only way he dies if he gets roared, if he gets instantly left by this rubik, there's still silence that can surprise him. I'm jumping to that remnant. I can't even realize. So they pivot through the gate down to bottom. He changes position. He's sitting differently. Now he's fully locked in. Straight back. Posture sorted. Let's pull it a little lich though. Tofu in a smoke break position. Now flick dust there on the roar to catch him. Mid game, boxy. They're in the area but no real intent to bite back on this. Stream gaming already stepped up with their the formation to fumble into this tier 2. I love that NTS is not afraid of just using Roar, because he knows that even if he uses it on us the port, they're still gonna be able to get something out of the map, which is gone for 20 seconds. Boxy, can you get another 9? Not this time. Game of the shot! But the fact that extreme gaming put that Roshan on such an early timer means that in 15 seconds we could see them waltz into the pit and go again. Having that second Roshan is a pretty big deal when you've already taken down one of the tier 2s, because then you close out the map and force liquid basically into their base. There's a lot there on Nisha's plate trying to split push, cut waves, gather farm that wouldn't ordinarily be gathered. Anisha also picked up casual blades of attack, that he could turn into either Crystalist or he was going with the idea of a mage there of course, but kinda got shut down after picking up Spirit's Vessel, so he's thinking maybe it's a bit too late to pick up that item. And does have Agadamn step-turn is quick, why? I need something bigger. Something that allows him to get into the backlines, find his feelings in Rubik. It's an FY Rubik, you have to hunt him down, can't let him do what he wants in his teamfights. Gust, starting top on Leesha. Dammit for the Jirau. It's only level 1 Gust, I don't know if I agree with this one. This spell actually scales really well. Knockback duration, 0.3 seconds if it's maxed out, and you actually get 3 extra seconds on top of it. Plus, the cooldown goes down by 6. I'm stuck against an Ember Spirit. It's more slardar, more tiny. I'm stuck like a map against an Ember Pushback does. Deward by Tofu. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Liquid. Force liquid to maneuver. What's towards that top pit? They have the damage. On side of liquid. They have the damage to kill heroes. Lardar also took minus 3 armor on level 15. He has level 2 ulti. So that's minus 18 armor. If Tiny can lock onto a target that has corrosive haze on it, the heroes are gonna die. Oh, Nisha. They start with gust. He's gonna see them. Slight chains. He's out of there. They have vision. He broke this without a roll. And that sneaky Observer Ward on high ground from Tofu. The vision game from Liquid has been good. It did allow them to play slightly aggressive behind the towers. See that Beastmaster when he was having the Aegis when he was trying to put slightly more pressure, trying to punish Go-Royce playing in the top lane. Did it happen? The R's got an uproach on, nothing to say. Does have board inside the roach pit. I'm defending 2-1 mid at the same time. Foxy is drawing on a mini-map. He's like, I'm going to go for a play, guys. Pray for the best. What's he going to do? He's blinking in. He's planting dead three, Gary, and he's blinking in. Good luck, Foxy. Ah, he's never getting there. Orochian number two. Ah, man. He's with the Aegis again. He's coming for more momentum here for extreme gaming. drawn straight down the lanes. So let's keep them pushed in, herd them into their base. Liquid horses being put back in the barn. There's Nisha zipping onto FY. And there's the guys, the guys got buddies nearby so he has to fall back. I'm watching at Boxley. Boxley has been AFK in this area of the map for good 30 seconds. Trying to steal the enemy XP Arun. It's basically what we saw from Y in the last game, is Lich was trying to do something in a losing game. If you know you're not going to be meeting them head on, you're not going to be team fighting. It's a pain build as well. Blink plus shard, I don't think he's going to try to go for a solo kill, but he can be very annoying. They're going to try. They're going to find something. Tiny, he's going in. Straight up to the ground. Arpune into the frontpack. Crossback into the middle, but solo god it comes in. So Arme, they're going to stand and deliver with a stun ray healing him. They've lost tofu, but there's the first life, Drowranger down the one. Ace, ace in the back. Stupid number of sunray comes out now, nothing to say has been isolated to the left. Nisha, still plenty of attack to keep on diving. Nisha goes for it by the guards. He's got violence. Starts off getting caught with the stable, the burning damage ticks him down. Ace being pummeled to the ground by XXX, but the Drowranger, no more aegis, no more life. Nicae played this fight beautifully. In and out they go. Nicae, clock back. Back and forth, and on the course of the round of spells from the time he declared them out! Oh, what a fight from Liquid! Again, Ame is in a position where he can't really get saved, Mikke finds him with the Harpoon and the Tossback play, and they spread around nicely against that Dawnbreaker ulti. And then Ace, he finds FYI immediately into backline, basically solo kills him with the BQB, because FYI doesn't have any protection whatsoever. I believe there was a Solar Crest that did come out of Phoenix, but it wasn't enough. I have to delay this, oh my god, and until it all happens, I mean, Dami already lost half his health. And watch H, he's gonna be jumping the back line. Actually, he finds Phoenix on top of that as well, just reshots him pretty much. Of course, he's supernova, and then the fight splits. Ame tries to go for one, nice pushback from Boxy. And then Nisha goes in, sacrifices himself for the rest of the team. I don't think they can get this isolated, getting to like multiple man avalanches, multiple man stuns. Formation from extreme gaming looked pretty bad this time. Yeah, no focus either. They're going base-master towards Tiny in Emberspirit, Draring is trying to deal with the front lines, he got top-facked. Dawnbreaker, put in a position where you've solo-guarding defensively, and Ace, his cup's empty. But it's Tiny, it's full. Nah, there's some liquid in it. It's a mysterious liquid, looked like water. The flask, full of that delicious salad juice, is taking all of FY's dish still a liquid. That's what it is. The essence of FY, nabbed. And now extreme gaming. A little, a little worry in there, Steph, liquid executing beautifully in that last team fight. Definitely going to unsettle them. Think about their formation and reconsider where they're going to put army. I need to, potentially just put nothing to say out of the front. Army has no defensive items. I mean, Mantis style kind of is, but also if you're getting stunned, if you're getting initiated on by Slardar with the Avalanche, even Bushwack, you are going to die there. Are going for objectives of two Tormentors, 30 minutes into the game, and two Roshan's killed by extreme gaming. There's going to be a huge upgrade on their side in 800 gold. Ex-Ex-S about to finish off A.C. It's like we're opening and finding someone defending that top lane. No one from Extreme Gaming is biting. That's what I was saying. Shifting towards mid. Looks like he was potentially going to go for Nisha for December's very fast and slippery. As NTS now with Gem, Shiva's BKB big Beastmaster can de-wall the entire map. And all of them are itemizing for armor. This AC that I mentioned, NTS does have Shiva's Guard which gives you 17 armor which is pretty insane because most of the damage on their side is physical. If you think about the cores there is some magical of course to it but most of the damage is going to be physical. But also it's an item that Barda really hate, like both of these armor items, AC and Intoshiva's slowing him down, slowing down his attack speed, that now also works through VKB. I'm gonna be nice to kill, to get. There's anti-f-beast, and all the equipment don't want to go too deep near tier 3s. Instead, they pivot towards mid, make a jump onto Axe Nova, Nisha getting stunned, the chain disabled, but he's able to wriggle free a little bit. Still can't make his way out of the fight. Armae brings the damage, and now NTS jumping Mikae. Avalanche cross combo. Oh, and you're enough to kill this beast master after the chain is gone. Frost-Ara is coming in, the right click's landing. Mikae is still surviving though, as FYI got blasted in the back by the slaughter. Ace again. He's gonna need something defensive. I think he might be regretting his item choices in Rubik right now, because this is SuperGreed, the stillers kinda expected must have item in this meta, but Etherland's Blink Dagger as well, it's a very good Ghost Scepter game, maybe even a Force Staff. I see that AonDesk is in his quick-quiet, so eventually he's gonna get to it. Does have that 100 extra GPM from Greening, Champion. Just kinda crazy to think this is extreme gaming's momentum, their 12k lead, they've been running the map, playing down lanes, but every time in the past five or six minutes we've seen a clash head-to-head it's liquid who are out executing them finding these cool openings little smart pick offs I'll tell you what Gary they don't like to play mid game early game is for noobs mid game as well late game this is where it's at they love to play late game like their average game time so far at the tournament has been like five minutes longer than any other team I'm just gonna double the quick no no no extreme game yeah their average maturation is almost 50 minutes average 50 minutes yes sir oh my god yeah that's them really long games also the average of games today I think as well they had a hundred and seven minute games against tundra they had 65 minute game against Paravision that they also lost then they had another 70 minute game against Bed Boom that they were unable to close out and the last one against Tundra as well in the tiebreakers. Last Wild. Well we'll see how we're able to drag this one out so far. Lamed well, got to the leading stage nicely, first 20 minutes. Gorgeous stuff. Falling apart a little bit. Not able to find that traction on the map. liquid a ton of time to get this climbing position where Mickey is a fearsome threat Amber and Slardar are a little bit behind the rest of the pack it's not a massive deal when you've got this big bad rolling stone He's going to go for a slot curasse of his own. The next round of items for liquid are going to be very important BKB on Misha you just mentioned item on Tiny that he is about to finish as well as with the AC agonist at the corner of finish they're not thinking them up but in the next two minutes I think that he's gonna be able to get that AC online to match with dawn breakers doing give that extra bit of a protection and extra bit of a damage for himself so plenty of time for these two sides to clash or we could just have a two two and a half minutes standoff around the bit, everybody staring at each other across the river. Liquid a little on the back foot, trying to contend with this mid wave, but they have pushed out top all the way towards tier three, and bottom lane is about to approach tier one, so extreme gaming has to do some lane maintaining. That gives the opportunity for one of these smoke maneuvers to cut across the map, wait through a jungle, find someone, strangling, bringing up the rear. Let's see if Liquid can maybe find something with some of the sneaky words that they've been trying to place right now. They don't have much vision on the map, especially on the enemy side of the map, but this is their skill. The BKB, though, X-XS just wriggles out of it. Tofu and Boxy there understood exactly where the Dawnbreaker was going to be. They had the full lines brought on the map, they have to catch, they have to scan, but they don't land on his stones before that BKB gets pressed. Oh, they might catch him getting out of the base and let's see where Ex-Ex-S is gonna go. He's going through these sneaky little gates with a thunder smoke from Liquid. Ideally, you want to find that Dawnbreaker. They're gonna see Beastmaster's career. That's so hard playing into the other four when the Solar Guardian's still available, so Tiny's leading out. They know. Tiny, Link, back already. Can he toss him out? So close, but so far. He's gonna... no, he's not gonna go past the barrier. I'm out of liquid after reposition. Back down towards the roast pit. Still smoked for another 15ish seconds. An extreme game having pushed these two lanes mid and bottom in. Kind of scratching their hands, wondering where liquid are. Yes, on high ground. The map requires some time. It's out of the dumpstread on to NTS. He could be out. He'll come in. Hang on a second, NTS. He's been topped up by the sun ray and the solar guardian. and he's still alive! Nisha in the back glides looking for Armey and opening maybe to kill nothing to say he gets the job done, at long last he's dead! 1-1 straight out and Mikkei's got an opening! Next thing he does, they're catching out this Dawnbreaker but the Chain Cross bound to get the Tofu and Tiny! They're losing their Mikkei carry! Tries to drift away, but extreme gaming! They halt their formation and having to swing back on the Lich as well! XXS gets the take down! There is so close for getting that kill but the Sunray don't break your ulti on top of that extra bit of a healing. He pops the BKB, he uses Bloodstone which does keep him alive in that engagement. But at least for the start of it, and then Nisha finds him in the backlines, makes sure that he gets the Gale Boxing. This is the play that he wanted to do for Roshan number two. Let's see if he can maybe do it this time around. It's gonna be ready again. He's very annoying. Cheeky little squirrel drifting around the map. Once a bunch of pings onto Nisha there, but die out of perfect vision of this area, they see anything coming. And that's going to be Armey getting his Aegis again. Let's fight the stars, going up high ground into Beastmaster. It's a really nice jump! That reactive play from Xtreme though with all the heals. It's too much healing coming out there. Without Spirit's Vessel on it, they don't have enough. Then Nisha again comes back in, VKB deepies out, and the stolen chain-cross is gonna destroy them because we use that lift and then toss them into Tofu again. And then Armies in the perfect position, launch and hits him. That's a just chase. And it's the Roche bit they went. Liquid now, 17k down. Extreme gaming, storming. Two hordes, this top left corner. The D-Shirt Talons are also insanely good, the Celestial Hammer on level 10, which has been her previous facet, feels really good, and then Solar Guardian Cooldown, extra AoE, and then it just allows you to be very speedy, like the combination between 10 and 25 also works really well. Extreme gaming have done it before, they threw a lead in 1v30k that they had so far at Dream League a couple of times. Unable to close out that game against BedBoom team. They were playing against a bit of a different heroes. Bit of malice from Underlord being super annoying, the double triple bit of malice. This time around you are playing against Tiny so the tossback and slaughter is still going to be pretty strong. Even the pull from Lich, they can't execute. It's all about Tiny's positioning. If he's able to get that surprise initiation, blow somebody up, get that number's advantage and make life hard for Xtreme. But the ward coverage from these dire support has been spot on. High Grand Vision and Radiant Ancients gives cover for Army to keep on farming there. While the position X is over quite aggressively in the southern jungle. So they've got this long line basically drawn from that left hand wisdom shrine. They feel hot. When we're down to bottom lane and Tire is covered. On X-XS, nice try. Not too far away from it, and now a roar, jump on a slardar, and Ace got off his PKB, but does it matter? He's gone! Bugsie's gonna blink back up to the tree line. Scary past the wisdom shrine. It's gonna be even worth chasing him at this point, is that the squirrel? Sold off, up to that top lane? Keep pushing high ground. They're already cutting the creep wave, Anisha. Making sure that... Lanes are in a good spot still, isn't it? Extreme game, they can't go for the high ground and they're two big items on both of this course now They have a on this they also just killed flarder who is gonna be your nullifier buyer So before that they don't feel as threatened So honestly, they're gonna find an opportunity to talk on that high ground They is close by ages minutes and 30 seconds ages has been planted Tripping ages. I mean for ocean spanner triple bobbles on extreme gaming as well Oh, they know! They know that the games are gonna go long! Well, back up the bubbles, get them all buffed up! Catch a roar onto Nisha, protected by the avalanche though, so he gets up the splite and can ram them away. Stam out some spells to keep Extreme at bay and toss up onto Arve. Dealing with his rare ranger, but hasn't killed her off until now. Sharps you to strain towards this exit that's dawn. They've killed off one Barrich and are looking for the second to finish the lane. Frost shield, attempted deny, not gonna pay off. Oxi blinking in. Aggressive, but he's got the force staff back to high ground. Trying to bait and toy with extreme gaming on their retreat because Mikkei angling in with their flash toss. Sun range to try and burn him down. MTS and Ex-Ex-S, they're perfectly fine as they supernova. Crash land in, nothing is safe, getting cleared out by Nisha. Emra's spread into the back, he's dealt with it, but they've lost a tiny now. He'll spend it to come back into the battlefield, Nisha's being blasted by the Drow though and he's dead for a hundred seconds. Extreme spent there by back on the Beastmaster. They want to continue this. Boxy lurking, looking for that entry point, but they're going to roar on the ground. They're going to stay straight in onto Tofu, taking him out of the game, same for the Hoodwick. Brought down to the ground with a third, thanks to Fy's Rubik. Oh, Tiny! That's a great initiation. They're trying something here with a slaughter on Tiny, but this is not enough. but it's not like they went for one last-ditch effort like that might be it Gary gave it a shot they knew they were bleeding out but in the end it's an ultra cool for army and a gg cool oh what a start for an extreme gaming in this series like the way they started was rome was fitting at zero cs because they try landed stop lane and then making he just dies for the first blood and everything goes wrong for them after that the top lane they're not supposed to be winning the top lane with the heroes that they have very difficult match up for Slaughter, but the bottom lane didn't go the way they expected it to go. This doorbreaker man, I swear, she just wings lanes. She throws spells, slashes her hammer, she's very annoying. You have a good start already. She can slow block contention very quickly. Yeah, they killed Micae way too many times, slowed him down, and then Ame had like two very weird deaths, but still managed to show up in the fight that it really mattered, and really glad that nothing to say also managed to do a lot this game because because people have been very critical about him, but managed to completely dominate the game, killing the tower when Nisha made that rotation to the bottom lane, then he shows that the top, in the triangle, they get a kill, they kill another tier 1 tower, and then after those kills, the game kind of flips. There's absolutely a world in which MTS doesn't have this great start, though. Agnans are delayed, Blink is delayed, and you get to play this game, but the fact that he's able to just pick everything up and say, On my back, we go charging down to chase Tiny, like making the map really small made it very difficult for Team Liquid to even try and catch up in game number one as Extreme Gaming, victory. And yet I'm looking at this niche scoreline, 7-16-5. The countdown. Blast off. The Avery lying to me. What? You specifically cited that there would be 16 and 0, Ember Spirit and Nietzsche. Terrying liquid to fix the rig. Game 2. Oh. If I don't pick Ember Spirit. Let me tell you something. First off, I've always thought you were a piece of shit. Oh. Second off. I'm glad you led with that. Second off, Neil. Uh-huh. What was this game? You tell me. Like, what happened? What was this game? I don't understand. I'll tell you what this game was. I don't understand, Neil. I'll tell you what this game was. Avery? I'll tell you guys It's like green gaming waking up today and saying wake up. We're over this 6-12 streak We're gonna bring our A game today, and we are just gonna pick her out early. Hell yeah And we're gonna run down lanes and we're gonna knock her to the shit. Hell yeah, Neal We never definitely had a different team today. None of a rock at all I don't know like I just thought like maybe liquid it was gonna be the team more likely to kind of recover from lost yesterday but extreme like almost unrecognizable to me from what I saw in group stage one and this look I guess not unrecognizable it looks like what they look like the first two days that's when they were running yeah what they looked like in my dreams when I've predicted them every series and lost every prediction I knew I knew and what who did I predict for this series Neil that's right I predicted extreme as I always do because I will never lose faith and you are boy on there you miss that one I got constantly been it was a really impressive game in my opinion from extreme gaming because we talked about it during the draft is that they have one idea that they're gonna win lanes are gonna run down lanes and they've got like the roar into downbreaker ulti and that's it and had they given too much or missed up a little bit too much like sure there were some fights where Liquid one because they out executed. Had they given up or messed up like one or two more times It would have been over, but they did not do that Brian. Yeah, they never really took the foot off the putt the foot off the gas I was like the bottom lane I thought I thought Aume was gonna be the one that was getting pressure throughout this game But it was actually Mickey and we talked about the first blood. He got an ass bee man He has he got his ass handed to him this game. Like this is tofu getting dough both of them getting dove, Mickey narrowly escapes and you're like okay I'm just gonna chill back here for XP and they actually scan him to find out that he's still there and when you're a carry and you're not allowed to hit CS under your own tower standing there and then you die, oh man, that's like one of the worst feelings in the entire world is. Look at that though. Yeah, I mean, Misha gets them nicely, that's the only. He was owning. This was his first step. Hitting 16-0. He's 3-0. Cruisin' in this game. And then? Well on his way to the 16 mark. And then done? And then an act of God. I don't know. What is this? Like, you got server lag or something? It's not God, it's Exnova. That's true. Exnova is a God. That was a great bailout, though, by Exnova. Yeah, I guess just like my point, I thought going into this game that all the attention was going to be on top lane. I remember when Aiden yesterday on panel was Liquid versus Paravision, it was like, Liquid wants to bring the pressure here. Harrivision wants to bring the pressure there, and I think that liquid wanted all the pressure to be on top lane But instead ace got completely bullied out of his lane Donbreaker instead of being the global assistance that I was expecting him to need to be he was actually just yeah Diving the shit out of Mickey and tofu off cooldown And even Nisha had to come help there and then nothing to say got the mid tower the map class very quickly I thought they were very one-dimensional with what they could do with their draft on extreme, but they didn't need to be more one time I mean if the single dimension works, then it's a great plan. Yeah, you're missing it. I can't sleep again. If you nail that single dimension, that's all you need. Yeah, but I want to say that I'm also just really impressed with NTS. He's zooming in on Avery. I hate these door shots. It's what everyone is supposed to do. It just happens sometimes that I'm a great player. But NTS on his Beastmaster did a lot by studying in the tempo as well. He won his lane and there was like a decision at the end of the draft by Liquid Do we want to shut down the Beastmaster on lane or do we want to play for our draft and play tempo with the Ember? And they chose the latter, but it was a mistake because it clearly showed us as that game played out that that Beastmaster was a huge problem. I guess alternatively, if the Ember spirit wasn't so preoccupied with salvaging Tiny's lane, then he joins the slaughter up top and gets to bully the drawranger more. or more, but bot lane was just hammering and so number three was like, I can't, I can't help you, Slaughter sucks to be you. I had the tiny problem. This is one of those, this is one of those games were one lane snowballed effectively into all three lanes. It gave on me all the space in the world, gave them all the tempo in the mid lane for nothing to say. They got all the plays that they wanted to make. And yeah, I just feel like that was not the extreme I was expecting to watch today. Well, it was the one I was expecting. Yeah, clearly. I've been expecting it for freaking six days straight losing points now they show up I just sense a tad bit of bitterness I want to refund refund for what my laws prediction that's what I want to be fun for our prediction points refunded nope that's right skill from Brian I want Brian I was not have many to spare I don't have too many but I'll happily give you all the way to the plot True refund would be if they win this series today every day. I'm just Advocated it's emotional. I will be I will be quite excited actually Waiting for this moment. You're boy on there to beat liquid That's a true like why is it got she gazzam or something all these twitchy moanings? Is that what it is? What's happening to me? Is that wrong? I know don't talk about got you gazzam. That's perfect. Yeah. Can you get those in the chat for our boy over here? Yeah, it's been a couple of those. It's one of my favorite emotes. Do one, Neil. You can do it early. The last thing I remember is the spinning fish. Is that outdated now? Joel? Joel? Yeah, Joel. Is that no longer? I've been a long time since I've seen a Joel. That is a true classic. It always comes out of Ti. It does. It does. The Ti classic. Just like our boy Amé. Coming into Ti form, Ti and China this year, he's starting to pick it up. No more more early GG's. Oh wait, I did call an early GG, but not for me. Are you gonna draw on our painting next day? I'm just I'm just drawing a bunch of nimbuses. I'm just nimbusing everybody in this picture. I didn't even notice. Yeah, I got a couple small ones and everybody just getting nimbus all over. I'm just gonna keep putting my hand. Why isn't the main lord though? Because that one was drawn really well and I think it was Sheever. No, it was the Aden actually. Insania drew that one. Was it Sheever? That one I think, well, I know the Border was she ever I think that one was collect I just a new true Largo I just don't want to I don't want to shiver anything. I don't want to nimbus anything shiver did Because I'm afraid of her. She's very tall. No, it's sticky Yeah, well the pain sticky observe You know, oh are we doing this? Yeah Look at that Very good. I'm sure everyone knows what frog I drew clearly the one in the bottom right Every move get I guess what I guess what that is that's that was my contribution looks like a dragon egg Yeah, I was gonna say a dinosaur egg. It's an arcane around for a Donna's egg No, that's a dragon need to hatch it at a rest site How to train your dragon well they got to do a little bit of a I don't know slave aspire references. They got a camp on liquid. They got a Anvil they got a rest they gotta they gotta bring a tent so that they can rest and Smith at the same time Neil this guy's place put them in a tent and Wake up quick because we're getting back to a game number two of liquid versus extreme after break You and I got something together It's so hard to be a feeling like this Yeah, the bush I get is on another level Going round my head when I'm with you Gotta sit, bring it off and watch it shine Come on, let's chase that dream and put it in line Then lose myself and dance that night We'll let it all mess up You make me so alive Come on, now get it, baby You can't even go far I just wanna live and now whenever it's so hard to be a moment like this And push, I guess it's all another level Get around and around when I'll be with you Can't sit here, I'm a friend, watch it shine Come on and change the dream and pull it on right Gonna lose myself and dance our life We're giving our best, my, my, my You make this good so alive Come on now, get it, baby You make me feel so alive You make me feel so alive Come on now, get it, baby You make me feel so alive You make me you make me feel so good You make me, you make me, you make me feel so You make me feel so alive Come on, come on now yeah, let's do this You make me feel so alive You make me feel so good Power used to be there so good for me In my mind all the time Go on, I can turn to you Now that I've achieved your other separate things You came along in the strong I've waited such a long time And I just can't believe it's new love I heard about it, yeah Don't want it to stop Stop when you know you've got a good brain That makes me feel fine Ooh, wherever it leads me You know it's all right I never thought that this could sweep me up or down I don't want it to stop When it's feeling as good Whenever you're around, my heart begins to pound Oh, I know you'll take it slow No way to stop this feeling You'll start to see the pain When they go away In this place, there's a space Where I'll be waiting for you And I just can't believe it There's no love around Yeah, I don't want it to stop When you know you've got a good thing That makes me feel fine Ooh, wherever it leads me I know it's all right I never thought that this could sweep me up the ground I don't want it to stop No, I don't want it to stop I don't want it to stop When this feeling's good Feeling is good Feelin' in this girl, oh, feelin' in this girl Incredible enhancements that have been made to the canning, I think our artistic capabilities are exceeding even my expectations. I would agree, Neil. I have been crowned king of the painting, apparently. That's why you should be. My unknown counsel. We voted on it. I unanimous. I voted. Just like I voted for a stream. And they delivered. And I shall king, shall deliver, too. King of the man. Your boy. I shall crown the uncrowned prince. That's right, Neil. It's about time. Someone needs to do it. If he's not going to do it, then it's up to you. And it's up to you. I Was balled the whole time You guys how it's so stupid actually like you you've had Jenkins this whole time So you're just numb to anything like what can I do that would shock you there's nothing the bar has been lowered I mean, I'm I'm being honest. I could not stop laughing you saw it. I could not stop laughing You're drawing it the way you really enjoyed them. I-I thought that shit was hilarious. I-There's something about when Neil then put the Antinage photo next to it, I'm just imagining that, like, potato... Mr. Potato Head looking thing as like an Antinage player. That is what Antinage players look like. I didn't mean that by Mr. Potato Head. It's okay. You know, everybody makes fun of the bald guy. I always put him in the co-cast or see, first it was Ted. Yep. was head again job requirement slacks was very it's not that was me so I take the burden I take the burden I don't mind you know what they say about bald guys jokes on you what do they say about bald guys I can't there's kids watching okay I was like the airplane cookies no get your mind out of the gutter okay airplane I was like what cookies are you talking about The meringue of those throwback. Yeah, that was that was a good Watch day number three of group stage end of the broadcast So yeah to tune in the airplane meringue to get our References rain incident guys draw ranger got a respect band in phase two Damn, they gotta protect their pangalir Yep, I mean now the question for me is this not extreme gaming pull off that drow draft very well what's the plan B like what's the second option what are you going to build around because you let through pango for liquid and we often see these first phase pangos like get let through but then win anyway and the solution to this kind of hero is like the muertos the drows plus something like a beast master or bane anything that can stun the rolling thing. Can I make a prediction real quick? Yes. I won't say anything else. I'm gonna call So he did play face-to-svoid against Reconyx and it was not against Utenko. He did play the hero. He had a good time. He had a good time. He had a grand old time. It's coming. We did have a pango plus stone breaker on his team. Good memory. I didn't. That is correct. He did have a pango plus stone breaker. I remember when they win because I'm really excited I'm like, this is it. Because it happens so rarely. This is the strat. Hey, it just happened. And it happened very convincingly. No, but I do wonder what this replacement core is going to be that's going to contribute to all of these objectives early on. The cool thing about Drow in that last game was that they had all these melee cores that were just running in trying to reach this Drow or run away from here and they were just getting completely shredded. I think if they can recreate that, that would be nice. I don't want to see Alman on a melee hero necessarily. Bruh, do you think Micae's jealous that Alman gets to play all these ranged turrets? And Micae's like, I used to be able to do that. Why can't I do that? Yeah, I'm sure he is. I mean, I think Beastmaster is really good against all these ranged turrets as well. Like, you always have to buy a BKB instead of a Gragas. I think Drow's one of the few it wouldn't be good against, like, in theory, because of the fact that she always goes for the Lincoln's, Manta, Hurricane Pike type of stat-oriented build. Now, all the other turrets pretty much all rely on BKB, so I would hope that they don't go for that. They banned out the Mikkei Kez. They didn't have the most success with Tiny last game. I don't know what else is actually in Mickey's wheelhouse that fits this meta Like I don't really know where he stands with this bristle back, but that's true You you talked you or you were talking about you're hyping up Mickey's bristle back back there That's right. You're gonna say about when in doubt spam Q. Yeah, no W. No W Just Q all about that Q. I meant no press W Not like no W I don't think the tiny last game was an issue. It was a good hero and it was able to do a lot for them. I think they just dropped the ball on their lanes. And Caudal plus Tiny is a great combo. I told you. I told you. I mean, Caudal Tiny is actually really bad versus Faces for it. What? They walked right into it. I don't know why Liquid didn't see this coming. This classic I'll make one to punch you hit him with the drought and you sneak that faces voiding The body shot the fact that they actually picked void and Liquid picked two heroes that are very bad versus faceless void Well played a real played. I always think like some real analysis in there. I think I'm just meaning yeah nuggets of information I'll tell you I'm he's gonna go 16 and oh this game I'm looking forward to game 3 and see what you think for that one. I genuinely think this hero has been slept on as a pango counter. I'm not sure why we don't see him more. It's one of the older carries historically that has an insanely good win rating against this hero. And it's one of the few heroes that can also bypass his itemization pathways because there's nothing pango buys that's good against the void. Like he doesn't want to have to go the early dispell item, right? You're kind of pushed into like Manta, Jules. Let's just say at one point Pango's would sometimes go mad. Yeah, I don't like want but yeah, exactly It's not the default build now and ultimately Chronosphere just trumps You're rolling thunder. I get a certain point in the game So you're saying that primarily time dilation is the biggest issue for Pango you time dilate him early He has to buy early this fell and then by the time he scales up you're just outscaling him So you're not worried about going over there. So I think that's the motivation But you need some more damage to throw out the chrono here Well, Pango is meant to be a hero that like you go on somebody else And then he completely disrupts and breaks out the breaks open the fight, right? But like in chronosphere that's faceless voids time to get you to himself. Pengalir can't jump through that So I think tight hunter It's like time a verse voids kind of an interesting matchup, right? Because in lane void is pretty weak against you. You can like dispel the time dilation You have strong damage block voids pretty low damage But then you're also here all that can theoretically set up your team to burst tied before your ravages. So I'm curious what build Amé ends up going for this game. We've seen some like at the Helm Dom Mjolnir, we've seen the Mascamanus Mjolnir. I can tell you what he's going to do. Okay, guard, please. He's going to go to the battle for that? Perhaps battle for Amé at the eggs, but we'll be a battle for Amé. Do you think that's the better build this game? Or do you think that's the Amé build this game? I think Amé thinks that's the better build this game. That was a really good non-answer. Thank you. That was impressive. Time walked out of that question that tractor you missed it again you know who do you want nothing to say to be throwing damage to the chrono with if you want to take a page out of a bet boom playbook he did play snapfire against playtime he lost on it it might just be a beast master murder it that's true yeah do like an off lane like Timbersaw or something. Oh and he's bad. Tinker is not bad. True. Oh gosh. That is what you have to think about versus Mr. Antioch. Oh God. They're gonna pick Tinker. They first say he's banned the last game too. They're picking Tinker. We all know it. It would be quite juicy here though you do risk getting run over in this game. I think it might be greedy if... Okay, so the thing is last game Extreme Gaming had three winning lanes. This time around, that's not the case. Like, Wild White is a great pick. Tide's not going to be shut down on lane, like you mentioned, Brian. And from what we see, Enchantress and Rivik are strong supports, but I don't necessarily think they're going to be shutting down like the Phoenix was caught on either side too. So if Liquid have a better laning setup, it's not gonna look as effective as that first game. Actually, I think Sniper's kind of looky nasty here. Or Huskar, but they don't really play Huskar, so... XM, what's Sniper's here? I mean, they need range to throw, they can throw damage in there. Okay, they actually leave the Beastmaster mid. Lame. You said they had the Dawnbreaker last time they picked Fist's Void, right? They did, but they had a Pango. It's like, theoretically decent synergy, because you can't dongle the end of the chrono. But... You don't necessarily want to do that. Yeah, I mean, I kind of like extreme gaming drafts less, the damage feels negligible right now from the early game whereas like you feel liquid and they've got damage secured by their Phoenix, they also have like tanky cores and hide in tiny and while extreme gaming heroes do look good on paper, they need time, they need time to scale, it's not going to look like that first game. They need the walk of time. The walk of time, but really I really do think the key to that game 1-1 was the leaning suge going an extremating spraver and I don't think that's been recreated in this game too. Yeah I agree with that. I mean I think that Beastmaster last game synergized really well with Drought Dawn because you won the fight in the first like four seconds. You just donned it on top, drew out chunks of a bunch of damage. I think Aume will likely go for that battle for your axe build which means they do need a lot of time literally for these fights to play out which is kind of anti synergistic with Beastmaster and Dawn a bit and then you And you have a hero like Tide that combo breaks, so I think it just really boils down to if Xtreme is able to extend the fights past that first volley of Ultimates, and ever since like the BKB refresher nerf, I don't think Beastmaster really plays that style, so I'm curious to see how they play it out. I didn't get to touch on it too much, but why the enchantress of all the Xnova heroes? It's a good question, you know, I was just about to say, I think I actually do have this wild card with the slightly faster support through a roam to mid versus the Caudal Phoenix which doesn't have that much impact in mid until he has a lot of levels. So they can run that train, just get it going. It could be unstoppable and I do want to say, I think Caudal is broken here. I told Quim this in the green room, I have a gut read. This hero is just busted in some capacity. He has a very good Caudal game. He has very good cores to play in front of him, which is what he wants. He has very good stuns, which he wants. He has very good Chakra magic targets. I'm really behind this Caudal. Aame's gonna go 16-0 in this game. Which if I'm to believe your previous game prediction that means that- No, this is a real one. That was kind of like a meme one. Oh. Aame will be 16-0 in this game. Mark my words. You mark him. You mark him. You mark him. You mark him. You mark him up there. Thank you. He was pointing to. He was pointing to our casters for this game number two. You better mark it! Garrus! Lacoste! Get to marking. I'm mocking, I'm mocking SPG, I'm mocking your words, I understand. 16 and oh! I'm mocking, I couldn't understand what you said, because we'll have to see if that's gonna be true, but I do agree with Fennel, I do think this Coddle in this game feels really good, you have probably two of the best cores, maybe we can throw in like Ender spirit in the mix, but both Pango and Tiny, they really love to have this hero behind them and On certain heroes, certain items are broken. The reason why we're seeing Io getting so much respect is Holy Locket, Sam goes for Keeper of the Light, the insane amount of healing. I was checking some healing numbers when on Dream League day one, day two, when 9th class played the hero and he was dealing like good amount of damage but also healing in 35 minute games having 30,000 healing coming up from the hero. As a POS 5 a bad and enjoyer I'll tell you now, holy lock it makes that guy playable. It's a very very good item for short. We'll see what box is able to do in this one. Game 1 like the panel was saying a good strong laning phase propelled extreme gaming into that solid mid game playing through nothing to say his Beastmaster and got them going. It's a really nice bit of a momentum where they could just keep chaining kills, hunting people down, pushing towers and making the map small for liquid. I don't know if that's gonna be the same story. No, I don't think they're gonna be able to replicate that, especially because they have a bit of a different hero in the safe lane that doesn't put that much pressure and ace-blank his much more comfortable hero. I would say a hero that doesn't really die as much. They have really limited amount of damage that they can kill with the Kraken shell once you get two points in Kraken shell. Even one that should be enough for you to sustain yourself or you have boxy go for the rune, try to stack in the triangle as well and Amé he went in very aggressively. A statement move, time walk to kill Courier. Tofu dead top lane though as Fy draws first blood. This Rubik Dawn break your lane again causing problems for Liquid. So strong even level 1 and then you get to level 2, level 3 the first three or four minutes. This feels so good if you keep pummeling spamming spells. I understand this more often before you would never want to scale telekinesis level 1 on Rubik, it does feel like a grief, but we've seen a certain matchup especially against this one if you can isolate the hero. And now they are going to be level 2 so it gives them another potentially kill on Phoenix, never mind he gets tossed under the tower but still playing very aggressive tofu, not respecting it. Amazing Largobah show. That's where we are! We've got flying Largobas, UFO Largobas, unidentified froggy objects. We're going to gyrocopter, all sorts of stuff floating around, but no Largo in the game. And I think we've stopped that bloody hallucination of the F-Lion Rubik in that top lane, flickering away with his beautiful cosmetic down a bottom lane, Armey and Ex Nova starting to give it to Ace. Dropped the tide down to about a third of his health, and put the shots. It's about to get a little annoying. I want to see what the build is going to be on Ex-Noah, Enchantress, I saw Decalis play this hero prior to this tournament as well where he was going for the 4-4-0 build just to have that extra bit of a damage and Impetus is still a pure damage spell, Ace is going to live but a lot of pressure early on. And this means Armae gets that space time with the creeps, getting that free farm going and so forth across the board. 3 lanes going very well for extreme. Arm and Ike, he's tracking his feet a little bit behind them but he's got a wave to catch up. His ace has come back into lane to try and recover what he can. Chakra magic put on him for another anchor smash. I'm going to wave right if you're tied to gather up. And in that mid lane, 8 to 9 is all ready for nothing to stay. 12 last hits against the 11 and 4 in each of pangor. Not a massive difference, but definitely a statement, a signal of intent from NTS saying I'm going to hammer you in this lane, just through raw denies and last hitting a power. It gets very difficult for you to kill these boars in the lane because they get so much HP, 450, that's a lot of commitment, you basically need to use two spell, couple of right clicks to try to be able to kill it, and so far I was looking at NTS, he is spreading these boars nicely on the side, and something to have in mind is He could potentially also go for the side to kill one of the runes and also pick up the other. So I want to see extra bit of a help coming out from Team Liquid's supports early on. Can be a challenge to rotate this Kotl and Phoenix into mid though. I can't move there, they just don't offer a whole lot of lack of stuns and misables. Whereas, like SVG said, much easier for Rubek and Enchantress to transition out of this lane stage and play around runes. Pivot into mid. For now though, they're just stuck in the lane, playing out naturally. I was checking the build that he was going for on Chantris. He did play two times that when one game lose the other one, but always puts one point in heal and then maxes out both impetus and enchant. So they will have the damage to kill this tight hunter. It's a lot of mana commitment because every single impetus costs 55 mana. 5 mana once it's maxed out for now it's 40 but they can definitely do it. NTS playing very aggressive in this mid lane. Yeah all of a sudden leaps and bounds ahead of that hangar layer. It was pretty even just a minute ago and now we're looking at Hanger getting dived at the tower. Left is ready. And he uses it. Immediate TP coming out from Coddle. Gonna help him out. the axis though. Stacking up on that pango. Nothing to say he's going to get away. Can he snipe him? That was close. The box is in a lot of trouble. The ball's slow. Now your Coltral's out in the open, down in the river and nothing to say. In a 1v2 situation, gets one and maybe two. The f***ing shots from Nisha. Just about gets to kill. Mickey in the meantime, throw a toss back. A lift back. Everyone's getting displaced across the map, Mickey, very low, but at once the one to die. X-XS can't quite finish the job with 13-1 charges and a Sol Ring. I thought maybe he'd go for it, having another still-ass Jill Hammer up. And now he sees the opportunity, but he can't go diving. FY had Fairy Fire in his backpack, so didn't have the damage, didn't have that extra bit of a heal. I also thought he might TP mid after seeing Caudal TP to the mid lane. This is something that we've seen early on, where offlaners don't get to keep lotuses. Instead it's given to the position 4 who can TP to the mid lane and help his mid laner if he's diving If he's dying and X-X-X-X is gonna actually snipe DoFu Another kill for him, but the pressure is coming in that mid lane It's catapult time so the enchantress with a centaur creep making you mean just why Living hell here and now he's spent the swash and crash to go for the roar into centaur stomp X-X-X picks up a double kill I had the help of FY arriving again, now Tiny's dead with that deep lane ward, they find another one. They're locked in. Even though mid lane, they don't get the kill on the Pangolier, they still put a lot of pressure on him, so Nisha, trying to find something, but here's the problem, your two supports don't have any disables, you just TP long. That's true, also, Tidehunter, he doesn't want to be making any moves, Nisha didn't put a point into his rolling thunder, instead he opted to go for swashbuckle which does reduce the cooldown it does increase his damage as well. Excess, getting tossed midair. Okay, just trying to hold onto this lane as best he can. Top three last hitters all green across the board, extreme looking hot. He canceled his salvo as well Gary, he missed it just a disaster again for me. To the impetus shot of Exnova, no TP for 50 seconds. Disaster strikes twice in that top lane. Wisdom Shrine at least tofu goes and gets it. But it's a rough spot to be in when you're losing out on all three of these lanes. Actually gaming really did come out here and outperforming with these drafts. Getting a very good laning phase, possession, getting some aggressive moves, and this on my face with Void is actually a complete free ton down bottom. I'm a little surprised that they didn't kind of focus this ton breaker more in the draft. or in the draft they're taking it for themselves or just straight up banning it, because, again, it was causing quite a lot of issues. I don't think I've seen a game where Dawnbreaker didn't have huge impact. It's an offlaner that wins you the lane just by being there. If you pair it up with any strong position 4, with Hoodwink, with Rubik, it's too much pressure onto the enemy carry. And also, you can leave it alone. She gets level 6, then she... It's also one of the fastest farmers from the offlane as well, because you can farm multiple camps at the same time. Jump between the camps. Let's see. Tofu. One more. There we go. In my last 10 games, I think I've seen like 6 Dawnbreakers. I can't think of a time where I've seen her lose a lane. She just outright wins the lane. That's almost impossible. Maybe she loses the game, but you've always got this opportunity to win lane, push tower, then you go back to farming safely with the threat of your solar guardian global. You just get so much more value out of the map than any other off-laneer would. Tofu trying to crack level 5, Micae has hit level 6 but he's farming jungle, killing off little frogs. The lane pressure and that deep lane ward keeps tabs on all of Liquid. Faces Void now, gets into 3rd place in the net worth. He's a little behind but he's able to capture nicely. I'm still not showing what he's going for this time around. Battle did discuss the Agatham Scepter battle fury build battle fury into Agatham Scepter and he finally queues it up He wants to be able to see I think this is the right choice because he was waiting to see how the lanes are gonna go And so far the lanes did go pretty much perfectly just in some of the creeps from Mickey as well Putting quite a lot of pressure on to him So if we're doing a pretty good job bodyguarding at least just putting in self in harm's way So make sure Mika can get something out of this top area. FYI, gets a little bit of free time mid to gather up some experience trying to track level 6. And all this movement, 3 heroes from top through to mid obscuring the fact that Beastmaster is farming stacks in the ancient camps. So nothing to say he's accelerating very quickly towards his Agamon Scepter. And that is a pivotal item which we saw in game 1, allowing extreme gaming just to play faster and faster, picking up the tempo. Also, having a Beastmaster again against Bangalir, you also have Faceless Void against Tidehunter against Bangalir, so you can kill these heroes during the Chronospear. There's the Roar. Don't hope for them on the level 5. We just walk in there and grab a bag of rotisserie chicken. Thank you very much. Got a haste ring bottled. Box is going to de-ward his ancient camp and then de-ward it again. That's what they should do, you said that both of the supports don't have any playmaking potential, they are good standing behind their cores, but somebody else needs to make a move. of the life of the way of some men and he's just going to put in They're taking like a lot of farm from Mikkei, farming in his area of the map because it's counting where he is, so it puts a lot of pressure onto him. Chronosphere is ready. And he's just getting bashed around and pummeled, a stolen Icarus dive and then a stolen anchor smash. That's why I've picked up some interesting spells. I'm going to take down the tide. It's X-nuper, just going to found in top plate. Thanks to a rotation out of Nisha. Finally regaining a bit of that territory in the northern... hemisphere they're definitely fine with this type of a trade the faces void has complete free farm not as much farm in terms of what the other cores are getting we can see three cores from extreme gaming in top three ten minutes in that's scary for liquid when you know going to late game this face of void is an absolute monster going into mid game this beast man for dawn breaker they've already shown how strong it can be. I'm assuming Enchantress as well. Think about the scaling. I'll rush into that Agilum Scepter. That's a big one. Happy Tree Friends or Happy Little Friends whatever the ability is called. Feels really nice. Undispellable Root. Don't break it off. I don't know if it's going to connect. Not quite. Bit too late. Okay, there's the TP out of there. It does mean that we've evacuated this top lane, but Nisha and Tofu. I think in about a go where this freshly picked up the fuselblade. Straight onto XXS. The turn around of this pangolier, though. It's ruby by its side, the doorbreak is kind of nasty, but they've got a rolling thunder in its apple fly damage room. Rolling, rolling thunder. The green cube. Oh, he's not green. He's not cube, he's just a normal little ball rolling up, pushing tofu to low ground while X-X-S is being handled by Pango. Liquid with a big kill there and FY out on his lonesome surrounded trying to go for the TP home. Damn it's not quite fast enough, returns the fountain. At least Liquid, they're getting something out of it. First amplify damage rune, picked up by them. Immediately you see the power of Caudal and Pango. Almost double shield crash and double squash buckle immediately, they were waiting for it. Go through the twin gates trying to put extra bit of a pressure problem with the rubik is like you need to play every other here You can't just play rubik because you also need to have a driver's license if you want to be playing pango I mean there are spheres still not used getting closer to that battle theory, but liquid They've managed to put some good pressure on the map even though they lost 500 in the previous engagement They got a kill on position five and also relieving some of the pressure from the cake who is farming where he initially Wanted to farm it's just that he got pushed out by this enchanted and don't break her a bit of a scramble to recover. Well done by Nisha. We are now looking at the Agathams Beastmaster though. Attention to go and steal ancient stacks. Find kills on cores. They're going to walk up into the enemy ancient spotting boxy with a straight up roar. Here comes Pango though. She'll crash into the middle of two of them. Ravage is already, but as Tolgaard in arriving, in comes the avalanche. Ravage clips on Fy. Rubik down What is going on with these Kronos here, dude? We saw yesterday Na'Vi when they were playing that third game against Aurora where he Krono'd to his whole team pretty much and lost the game after the comeback. I gotta say, that's one of the reasons why we're not seeing too much Magnus. I think the hero is in a very good spot. The faceless void, the ultimate late game carry, but it can also mess up so much. It's a return of the Lotus Bear. He comes here and catches all his teammates. They ravaged the faceless void and he's like, okay, I'm gonna probably just go. Not, they weren't even moving. Ah, that's a pretty bad one. I'm sure they killed Pango, but they also lost a lot of momentum with these couple of kills that they managed to feed away. Oh, they just didn't say sorry? It's a phylox. No mouse movement in the extreme gaming camp there. They know they have fucked up big time. They really did. And now the game is even. 2k gold lead, faces what? He was off to a relatively good start, didn't die a single time, had a couple of assets to his name They were holding on to his tower. He was sitting in the lane farming It's that option to go for this type of a play and ruining his own team ruining his farm as well Which was supposed to be like 13 minute battle three became a 15 and a half minute battle three Yeah, that's swelling of momentum, right? You're looking this piece master He wanted to transfer that agonist after into kill into ancient stacks of blink dagger And you keep the flow going, instead now it's liquid. Running down is Exnerver and Chantrus. A little challenging to kill though. As he pops the wand he yields. He's alive. In the meantime, Amik dies to a Phoenix of a Tide? With no Ravage? No Super? What? How's that even possible? Okay, dead in the water. It was there. You can't really kill it. You don't have enough attack speed, so pretty good pickup from Ace. One thing I like about Ace, what he does when he plays certain heroes, is when he was playing Mars, I know that people loved to meme on his Mars, but there was a game where he was getting, like, trying to find a new item build as well, so he opted to go for Shard and then managed to land some two... two managed to pierce into the arena, pre-blink, because his mid laner was also initiator, so pretty good pickup, and now things are equal. We didn't talk too much about Tiny, but he has fully recovered Shadowblade, Shadowblade ready, plus Neco's favorite, just doing what we're going to see Mikkei, makes some moves on the map. Yeah, big time. Tofu sniped out by FY, but it's Ex-Ex-Ex-Ex being lined up in this top area of the map. Trying to skip away with his hammer, but there's Nisha and Mikke here. We're going to have to swipe down on him. Boxing helps push him back into the pango. Excellent, it was nearby, not able to come and join the fray. Looking for that dire ward. He doesn't de-ward it. and gives away his own observer positioning. I'm still trying to get that aggottam step drop and running. Come on. It's for army. Early mid game. Not where Faces Void really thrives. You know, we can forgive and forget some mistakes, some misplays, some deaths. He wants to get past this battlefury and try to hit late. You gotta say sorry and you said that he didn't even say a word. I was watching his play account I didn't see his lips move at all Unless he's eventually quashed. I don't think he said anything at all Maybe he tight That's possible, right? Sent a V-Chat message in the group Everyone gets pinged Actually, I'm gaming out. You can see, you can tell. Another wind knocked out of their sails, sitting back and trying to get into these next items. Trying to coincide them with this faceless forward timing. I can accept you're a big deal of army. So if you have that with a BKB Beastmaster, BKB on the dawn breaker, there's definitely potential there to fight into liquid. It does feel like they want to slow things down. They lost momentum that they had and now waiting for another round of items. round of items, have that BKB that you mentioned, double BKB plus agatum center and faceless void, so it seems like that's got to be the case, but it also gives a good amount of time for Tiny to recover, get his harpoon, which is his big ability, which synergizes really nicely. We saw it in the previous game where Mika was trying to go for the play on that tier 2 push with the drawranger, pull back in, into the tossback, Hame, immediately using time-off Not too many trees to hide I was trying to use that cliff face Just stay away from liquid and keep a gap between them Big ol' circle drawn by tofu though. Liquid want to keep invading this area and boot army out of here Army he bought a sentry off his own He's going to go back to base but can't stick around in that bottom lane. Diascanning is still trying to hunt him and Liquid bring four heroes down south. I'm now realizing the army has evacuated. I still want to play through this, nothing to say Beastmaster. It's pretty powerful, but 1500 to go until BKB, maybe wants to buy this time until that's ready. It does feel like they're waiting for BKBs instead of trying to look for a fight right now. Again, due support, they can do, I would say, slightly more than liquids in terms of walk down. But again, we saw how powerful it is to have Keeper of the Light behind Bango. He uses Shieldcrash, Washbuckle, and he has another Shieldcrash ready immediately. least washbuckle isn't cool down for another three or four seconds I'm sure the tofu is always nice miss Phoenix pretty high value after that when you've got a tiny on a team now tiny anti-tumpto two big tanky boys There's multiple sun rays going. I've always got to consider Roshan. They're extreme gaming, they've got this beast master. So pick off into pit. Absolutely possible if they can go and find it. They could go and keep their wits about them as they'll smoke out of that bottom lane. Looks like they're going to twingate up the top and rejoin the cuttle with the pango up there. They slow down Amé so much, he's sitting at 9000, Eurubic is behind you with 7.2k, map is very small, map is big but for extreme gaming right now at least for Amé, These are quite more difficult where he can get to farm. He's... I was watching where he was farming. He's trying to go from the top part of the map to the bottom, but also a lot of camps are farmed there. Nothing to say, taking care. A good amount of farm in that area of the map finishes off his BKB. Yeah, it's like when you're playing GTA Vice City and you can't cross the bridges. You know the map is big, but there's some invisible wall just blocking your path. You've got to try and find some way to glitch yourself over. Put the faces forward in a motorbike. Try and clip over a wall somehow. Some way to recover him back in this game. They need Ringmaster to give him Unicycle so he can move faster. Right now, I feel like they could potentially try to take a fight, but again, this is why he doesn't seem fight ready. He farmed two components off his Agatom scepter in the last... ...five minutes? Almost? I mean, they need the Hawks from Lord of the Rings to come in and split in. Yeah, they need to pick him up. him up and get him out of here. Liquid are the ones that bounce against the roast pit. Extreme TPing across. Looks like they want to contest this. Facing in small checkpoint areas, it's pretty good for them with this. Faces Void and Beastmaster. Liquid won't allow that. Who's Gollum in this one? I think it's NTS who was actually pretending to be his friend, but also stealing good amount of farm where Ame wanted to farm. Just following him around. Yeah, pretty much. What does Void have in his pocket? Nothing because he has no money. And Liquid want to steal his lunch money but there's nothing on face with Void at the moment. They can turn him upside down, nothing's going to fall out. Alright, running away and taking... I can just swoop in. Take control of this area, realize that actually, extreme damage will not step up to contest Roshan. MTS! Has BKB ready? There's an aggantive sector on enchantress who can control two creeps. Roshan, down to half HP. One creep has been used to scout what's going on inside the Rosh bit. the fastest roach taking lineup. That's pretty slow. So they'll go for the stay move again. I'll make sure he's ready for health. I'm gonna make a start hit on nothing to stay. Avalanche cross from Ravage. Solar Guard and BKB for NTS though, helps get the Beastmaster out of danger. Roar of the pango. Get them away from there. Misha found the crystal twice. So Ravage for a BKB and a rolling thunder, Wastaror, and the fight damage is available for Nisha. But now Armey... Armey's ready! Armey wants to take this fight Gary, he is ready! Oh no, he's gonna go in then go out again. Reverse time walk. A little poke and prod to say hello, howdy. What's going on inside the pit? They have a lot of sustain, keeper of the light gives them. He has Holy Locket, doesn't have Shard, because Rubik, sorry it was Phoenix who got it. Would that get that extra bit of a 30% heal on Illuminate? In and out. It's so annoying. Still can't contest or really steal the Rose Pit though. Aang just goes into the hands of the Pangolier. Stupid nerve, he got spanned and the Chrono comes in. Are they trying to deal with his Tidehunt or with X-Nova's damage, but it's nowhere near enough? I can't control it, it's close! Eh! And now we're gonna jump back onto Nisha, look to deal with a pango there, roar on the tiny hole in his back, but Exocift is getting blasted by this Nisha pango! Actors are flying to make it to this very cool walk forward, clap down on your tiny dead in the water! I couldn't help it, placed one by one, they fall! Extreme gaming, I- I don't know about this one! Game 1 was super crisp, but here in Game 2 they are falling flat! Oh man, what the hell is going on? Focus tight? Focused Dine Hunter who doesn't even have Ravage at the time, so they blink in, but the Heals are just very annoying for them. I'd like to hear what the comms were, because you have Sunray, you have Caudal with the Heal, with the Hololocket as well. Their damage is very limited at this time, so they get to play slightly longer fights, go for the supports if they can find them. Plus, you also have Pengo, who's playing with Keeper of the Light, multiple Swashbuckles, multiple Shieldcrashes, and Nisha does have Aegis. Also very good thinking coming out from Mckay, only having one point in Avalanche, showing that this is probably the most valuable spell that you can steal in the game. So opting to go for stats instead. Misha? Misha playing with his feet. This doesn't even need hands on keyboard. That's how good he is. He's double-dipping, 3.99 per month on his private channel, plus also getting extra bit of money from Dota. This is not his main income, by the way. And back to the game. He's still holding onto that Aegis, so didn't even die. I got it for three minutes. I don't know how far he's freezing now. Apparently I'm allergic to that backspin. I'm allergic to him using chronosphere like this. I'm allergic to him going on the freaking tight onto... No, X-XS has the BKB TP out there. I don't know, man. I roar in the mid lane. They're going on the tiny. Bossy got one charges, harpoon, trying to get back to the tree line, and I've got it this time. Locked and held in place. Something going the way of extreme gaming has liquid spread a little wider than the map. Now trying to re-collect themselves in mid, and Ace will chase in onto F1. This person smells his way, the shield crashed. Trying to get some distance, but this time I don't know, just waltzes towards you. Anyway, Gush, super irritating. It's so much damage as well. Because you have gush, slow talent, you have gush, damage talent and on level 20 you get that extra minus 4 armor on top of that, which synergizes nicely with not your carry, but also with Bangalore who is dealing pretty much all physical damage, except for rollup, which is magical damage, right? Rollup, rollup damage is magical. Huh? I also think that some of these position 4s are locked in to this new item, as in this is a great item, don't get me wrong, but I also think in some of these situations this This could be Spirit Vessel instead, you are playing against a lot of Heal, we saw Holy Locket Blast coming out from Caudal, Sunray behind him, and also TinyTinies has insane amount of HP if you use it on him at the early. It's a lot of damage on these tanky cores. Okay, going for a very interesting guy to build, things that he doesn't need BKB he is playing against ROR, he is playing against Chronosphere so I'm gonna try to bait some of these spells as well And also a good way of dispelling some of these more annoying things, especially time dilation, which is only level 1 at this moment Also being buffed up by this blast at the tie, only can bring a lot of damage There's just a stat time when your faceless void is bottom of the net worth in terms of core heroes 6k behind his own Beastmaster. Nothing to say he's having a good game, but he doesn't necessarily have all the heroes to play with. Damage definitely has been lacking. Yet you can roar and solo guard him, but he's so much more. You didn't sound kind of a follow-up. When you're the one being gone on, forced to BKB TP, that also feels pretty rough. Actually, that's going to play out this top lane, trying to scale on the dorm break now. Our Salkyrax being queued up, already down halfway there. Our army being protected by a couple of heroes by his side. What is that threat of the chrono? The Tossback up top into the... You're a fool for his teammate, sir! ...the KBTP? Who's afraid of that threat Gary literally everybody? Yeah, one we nine But they got a more serious now They need to try to stabilize play this type of a game because they have no abilities that go through deep up immunity other than super No, which you can't really time out with the BKB TP out So play behind enemy lines and try to get something done go for the next track I think they actually need to round of items to be able to plunge back Well, let's say he gets a bit of distance here from the Enchantress, but it's dead in the water. Here we gush with the swashbuckle and the physical damage out of Tango Tiny. There, can you drag X-XS a little closer? Sunray and burn him down. He's dead for a minute now. Harpoon action. Harpoon onto the tree and then Mikke pulls him back in. Also finds X-XS gets a really good tossback. As I said, this is the type of a game that they need to play, but eventually you're gonna have Tiny hitting on your building. on your building and this is a 30 minute timing before it was 35 so now you have double catapults as well that's off the tide that's a game tiny lost to play double catapults do get killed off by the cliff the tide can't hit on it it's on its tide and they got it's tiny and deal with the buildings no real defense being made by extreme gaming. Just let their barracks fall. 31 minutes here. Pretty quick. We threw one liquid and put them in good stead now with 7k lead. There are my waiting rooms. Constantly in catch up mode. The fact that Tofu can just sit here and farm enemy agents. Take away high value parts of the map away from your opponents. Yeah, that's not a good sign. They're on the other side of the map anyway. Silver Edge, this could be the big item. I was thinking whether he wants to go for it. Does have also one extra component for Sheva's Guard, but being able to break that Hunter, it could be pretty big. Because your face is what is not dealing damage. Not yet, no. That sounded very optimistic, not yet. I mean, there's the potential. There's always the potential. I'm just not sure Liquid are the kind of team to throw away a lead like this with a Mickey tiny. 20k net worth. In an incredible position. They've got the surprise jump factor. They've got that ability to sunray into the chrono to heal people up if they get caught or ravaged with a gauge. They are just cruising through buildings now. Last out of tower demolished. I can think about the next Roshan who's up in a minute. The next Aegis. Why, what time? The phone's out of the game. So we've got a couple of moves left in us in this extreme gaming. All men to the start things off. Look at Liquid swarming the map in the top area though, near the enemy base. They know sometimes not to make a game. Not nice for XP. We've seen XG call games, even before that. There was like day 2, day 3 of the tournament where Amé just called it. He has no buyback, he has no damage whatsoever. Roadshot? You're a team to respawn in the next five seconds, so they can take this set of barracks and then go for Roshan themselves They're coming side so nice before them. So nothing to say X-XS try and make a play here Without the faceless void, they don't have armor for 30 seconds They're gonna go all in to lose X-Mover, MTS, X-XS, away you go, back to Fountain Fury mate Extreme gaming. I don't know what else they can give There's one play left for XG and that's drop the Gs in the old chat because I don't like again They went on tight hunter try to bro try to break him. They did Didn't take 20% of his HP I like we're just gonna go for the final lane Avalanche catch on the rubik chrono from our mate solid guardian looking for the Phoenix kill tofu He'll die, but now they'll rally around Ace with a rolling thunder towards X-X-S. A dorm breaker. Still alive? As that fly gets the right thunder of his own, but dorm breaker got fucked in between some illusions. 10 for 90 seconds as Army goes for another round of fighting, but he's been hatched up, turned into a little piggy. In shunt box, he's back in that ground and delivering the damage. Mikae goes back into Invis, Army's being hounded by the pangolier. forced to fountain, okay wanting to try and get an additional jump back in but change his focus over to wall this X over and chat to us while army's jumping in and out looking for the fascist whatever he can through the time walk currently the two versus three and this pango seems unkillable you can't even go toe to toe with the pango just try as you might army you're losing these buildings and they're just gonna wallop into the immediate of the spelling it they did hold with a few buybacks but that's about it now he comes in with another round of spells outlash toss the clear amount Phoenix TP's in on to the wave they're staying over under the direst entry they've been scouted on the retreat no way to actual trade away from liquid and chat was being blasted by the I'm gonna make it tiny, and then we're gonna look to finish off the buildings and break on the pango, but Gigi is called a Rough one for extreme gaming very difficult one But the game did look more than okay They were four five gig old ahead the 12 13 minutes into the game them that one fight into liquid triangle Kind of flips the game completely. They get chronosphere on multiple heroes. I don't think the whole idea is the bigger the better in this situation because maybe if he didn't join they would be able to reset and come back and then he kind of makes this game miserable on top of that because at the time he was 00 and four and after that one big team fight in the triangle nothing was ever seen Gary so basically whoever SPG stands is going to go 16 and zero loses the game so as there was nature's ember now Now it's the face of the Void of Army. And really great for Liquid though, to be able to strike back, level the playing field and head into a game 3 in this Elimination series. Super important for them because they look lackluster in game 1. Then Extreme Gaming kind of flop in game 2. I mean, who knows what's in store for us in game 3? Any thoughts? I want to see something else from Extreme Gaming. I just want to see a little bit more consistency. That's all. I think drafts are okayish. It's just the execution. It was not there. Well, we'll find out as we head to game three, but first it's back to Osteonami. Well, that's interesting, because I'm looking at Omni's scoreline, and it's 0-5-8. Whereas my esteemed co-host sitting next to me, Avery Silverman, confidently proclaimed, he would go 16-0. I think if you look at that binary, you'll hear a very different number. Oh, it's a spectrum. Yeah, that's a weird one. It's game 3. It's not a game 3. Oh! Where Nisha will play Ember Spirit and Aume will play. That's right. Combine. They will be 15-0. Very good, Nioh. You can combine to be over 16 at that point. This was one of the weirder performances I've seen from him because this game felt one, in a sense. Like, you win early game with Facesport, but then you just cannot win a fight. You throw the fight on the triangle. That really turns a lot of this game bad over extension. You kind of have to respect you don't have damage to throw in the chrono. So you actually need to play for scale here. Your mid game is barely beat even with the Mega Farm Beast. It's just very awkward game for my streamer. They didn't really understand the timings I think. Hey Liquid, they came alive at least. Hey, they really did. I mean, this lane from Liquid I thought was really impressive because, again, they lost lanes, they got worked on lanes, and at some point it looked kind of secure for a Radiant, right? If you're playing in the Faceless Wood and you're 5k on Earth, that's when the Beastmaster is playing for free, then it takes a lot of gumption and creating situations From the losing side to turn it around like that fight in the triangle. I could have seen I could have seen it go differently like if Let's say on this team wasn't inside of that chrono That's a one fight right but even having all the heroes there and this one like I really need you guys Please have to do this because this was the smoke on these masters 13 minute ag timing it looks great, you know, you should jump stand without a rolling thunder the dawn breaker comes to bust everything out and And the dawn is in the chrono, the beast is in the chrono, and Tiny's cooldowns are resetting here. Like, if that, if that face, face of the point's chrono was like a split centimeter, just down where they could actually hit the beast and the dawn, if they could hit the pango there, that's different, Brian, I don't know. Can you talk to us about this? Because I know Void's a hard to execute hero. Yeah, to be frank, I don't have much justification for Amir there, because I think the hardest chronos are the ones where you're time walking in. People are moving around and yet the like Time it as they're all moving those are the ones where you might miss two heroes by a couple units But in that exact case His teammates were stunned by ravage and the opponent was stunned by dawn breaker old D So everyone except for maybe the pango was not moving and he just Pronoed in the wrong spot. I mean it is a one single missclick. Look that is the nature of faceless void I literally I think you know we talk about Avery's prediction before the game in the green room a minute before that fight I'm like I don't think it's possible to lose a game like this from Faces Void's perspective I like being up by 5k free farming with a battle fury but they managed to pull it off I will say like you said liquid you know they're a type of team that's gonna punish you for these mistakes you're not gonna be allowed to get away with this but also this is what they look like yesterday against par vision team liquid one game two from like a seemingly impossible spot and so I believe in them they have that capability but they've also put themselves in this seemingly impossible spot in so many games in a row. So I don't know what's up with that. I'm with you for sure. I don't mean to call it Aume in particular but this is a Faceless Ward draft without damage so you need, and you've given Faceless Ward a free early game, you need him to play these fights perfectly or everything will swing. This Roche fight too, this Chrono here, I really hate calling him that because I feel bad. Like, you're cronowing after the Aegis, you jump in and out multiple times while Roshan is still alive and then you choose to crono after it. I mean, you just wanted Aame to play his gamme, and then he cronowed and you said I can, I can not believe you stole my joke. It's actually unreal, right? I'm pissed off now. I'm actually pissed off. To be fair, like, faceless void with no damage to my crono is super hard to pull off and I only bring this up because I feel like there should have been more with the start that you had on Radiant. Or just pick Tinker! What was the job breaker doing all of a sudden? Who cares about Beastmaster? Send them to the offline, give NTS Tinker. Liquid First Phase banned it. They clearly feared it. And yet, they're like, I don't want a defense turret. I don't know if defense turrets work in Chrono. I actually don't know if they work in Chrono. Well, I'm not going to do it. I think that would only work if they're replaced outside of the Chrono. Perhaps. That's what my instincts would see. I can't. I can't do these shots. All Ward attack unit things are outside of Chrono now, I think, so... Sorry, Neil, but the synergy between the turrets... But it's not really an attack, because Nimbus works on the Chrono. And Nimbus is like a... it's like a fel. True. True. You can confirm that Nature's Prophet. If he were Chrono right now, that Nimbus would still be hitting him. Somebody got Nimbus? Who? Yeah, all the characters in the... Like you're a little haste rune? Oh, that's what that was. I'm gonna give him a name as later don't worry. I like the haircut that you gave that one also It's a little stylish dude from the 70s or something. It's like a little like inspired by Brian's Bowser, Jr Yeah, I was inspired by my hair. You're my mortal enemy. I hope you know it Why didn't you do one inspired by your hair? You're a piece of shit honestly You know what's crazy, guys? I actually liquid played really well outside of the laning stage. Like they found really good opportunities to claw their way back into the game. Now they just need to make sure that their lanes aren't going miserably. Whereas for extreme gaming, just draft some damage in this game three. I agree. This- I'm fucking done with this shit nicely. Don't kill it. It's not hurting anyone, Avery. What is that? It's the lawnmower robot. That seems fucking cute, yo. What did you get back? I got a feed of a bunch of shit. Brian just shits on me all day. What does this say? Well, it says be careful. OK, just put that back real quick. I actually have no idea where that came from. Have we always had that? It's been mowing the lawns every single night to make sure that our turf stays nice and... That's really important. The maintenance work is what it's all about. We can touch grass. Yeah. Anyway, we'll continue my rant. Can you continue? That was the end of the rant. I just wanted to continue it to the end. Like, yeah, you didn't get to file. The natural conclusions. That doesn't fit, man. What is this, like, weird meta going on? How are these handles just like three percent close-ups of me? I thought they didn't do anything. In fact, you were... Maybe it's your special end of... You're being... I'm gonna crown you... Pop, I don't want to be crowned. Let's find Brian. Brian is now king of the panel. Just kidding, get recknubed. For a closing point, I guess I would like to say that Extreme Gaming, I think they have a really good grasp on how to play the lanes against Liquid, but they've done these two games work. But you need something that after the laning stage takes advantage of it. Fucking sorry stupid robot. Don't make fun of the robot Liquids out here why are they always having to come back line? Dominate from the first seven minutes. Why they always gotta be playing from behind I don't know I'm done talking. I mean liquid got pretty smacked in both later stages of both I'll ask you serious questions. I was listening your point. No, you don't have time. Do you think? No, we have time. Heroes or game play? Think about it. You've got six minutes to think about it. And so do liquid and extreme, as Avery ascends to the heavens. Why is his head so shiny? Is there like a light they can remember? No, it's just that your aura... You went so bright... Oh no! I feel like I'm in like an Eric Audre show or something. Like, I don't know what's happening. It's just surreal. We'll be right back. I I hear I am on top of the world They thought I'd never make it I hear I am on top of the world On top of the world On top of the world On top of the world I'm something new I'm something new I'm something new But if you don't know, I'm talking to you I'm talking to you I'm talking to you I'm talking to you I'm talking to you It keeps my feeling when the morning comes Sending my thoughts while I'm dreaming about the lady who made me love Blue, blue skies when I see the one I love And I don't do anything for you, my love Fresh to my forehead it's calling Cause I'm whole, up in this new world Needless to say I'm falling And you don't have a clue Sun and words on the dream Me and my thought it made me laugh Look through skies when I'm singing The one I want to have Hold me till the morning, hold me till I'm born Hold me not to fall in love, don't let me go, don't let me go Hold me to the moon, hold me to the moon Hold me to the moon, don't let me go, don't let me go, don't let me go Don't let me go Oh my dear, something would save me, thank you If we just rise above I'll stay here and let the sun Fly forth three, two You shine the light It's the real me It's the real me You shine the light It's the real me It's the real me What you got there, Avery? Hello? Go up this bar, kid. Sorry, how do you know? What's in the box, Neil? You can't see the box, because Brian... Oh, there it is. That's a very good question, Neil. What's in the box? People have been wondering what is in the box. something in this box there is something in the box I could give you what's in the box or you could gamble double it and give it to the next person that's right could be selling good could be selling bad could be something alive could be selling edible it could even be a boat I'm guessing something edible smells very old and probably not I something I should have smelled okay so not food safe they're probably mold in this box but that's not what I'm talking about That is, I believe, like a biscuit box, because the kex, the chocolate... So what is in the box? I don't know. Don't play into his game, Matthew. He wants you to ask what's in the box. He wants that power of a mystery. But if we simply ignore him, then he loses his power. But I'm worried because he already opened the box. And I think that inside of the box was a liquid one. You're saying that the 16 and 0 Nisha is actually hiding inside that box? I think so. I hope so. I would really redeem a lot of the insane shit I've said in the last hour. We'll see who has the opportunity to go 16 and 0 as... Traff number three is now upon us. Liquid, they ban up Beastmaster, Timbersaw, Dawnbreaker, And extreme takeout, Kaz, Clockwork, Lone Druid, and Pangolier, Liquid say, Gimmie of the Doom. Don't I at least get points for saying he's going to pick Faces for me and go battle for your eyes? And you did do that. I mean, it could have been a really easy one too, I think a couple of things have gone differently. But I really do, memes aside, want to talk about the lanes, because it's two games now that extreme gaming have worked Liquid in the laning phase. Will the same thing occur? I think this Beastmaster mid is actually completely dominating like two games hitting its tempo And I think that extreme gaming have done a very good job at running at Mickey like Mickey has gotten Shutdown in that leading phase incredibly hard. So I would like to see some more resources put on to his lean some means of protecting him because Even though they won that last game, they don't feel good about how that first 10 minutes played out Well, perhaps the resources are coming in the form of a band phase that is heavily targeting out X-XS, because in previous games, Liquid was kind of bouncing around. They banned out Terrorblade, Timbersaw, Axe in Game 2. They banned out Lone Druid, Clockwork, Pango, and Tinker in Game 1. But this time, I guess it's like Game 2. Two X-XS bands, and then one middle of the road band. My question for you, Avery. How do you re-create that mid lane situation for NTS without B-snuster? Like what other heroes do you see in early phase? Well, the thing is they first pick Doral, which doesn't give you more opportunity to counter-pick, but if he's gonna pick blind, I think his Ember is quite good blind. He has good practice playing it into absolutely dominating lanes when Jawa picked it into Ember, A-games in a row, like a year ago, and got obliterated, so... I think he's a player that can get out of lanes. The other big one, I think, for him is the Primal Beast. People always forget about his Primal. But that is a hero they will go back to, they will combo it up with the high damage supports. Play super fast, you probably go through it. Always get out of any lane matchup, like Mallory and Primal, right? So I think that is a hero that is likely to come out here. It's potentially. Why did they pick Doom first? Like, out of all the heroes, you know? I was going to ask you. They thought 33 was still on the team. Whoops. Yeah, it's just like it's not exactly like an A signature. I don't feel like it's particularly amazing against anything extreme gaming's been picking I'd love to know why I'm sure that there's obviously a reason that you open up with it I would say the only one that comes because I don't think it's a lane winner either I think it's a very weak laner in the meta, especially doing a counter pick My only ideal that they might be going for is they They just want something to shut down a hard carry like it's an anti carry hero Kind of no matter what or force all made to a weird spot where you can't pick a lot of his hyper skill It's not picks the faces way. Yes, you know They were really scared of the faces way in game three Yeah, so they had to block pick it here They just had to do it this fight the fact that they beat the faceless boys And it was the Drow Ranger who they actually lost to and of course you can just do the Lich armor target You know just pretty nice. They hadn't picked the Lich yet, but they knew they're gonna pick Lich I see they block pick already. Oh, I see Now that this Drow comes out in response to the Doom in like every first phase, I hope that Doom is going to be a hero that it's not going to win lane versus Drow Lich, but it's going to come back later on. So maybe just take the L on that lane and bring Box B to that safe lane early and often because you don't want both of your side lanes to lose. So you just put this one aside, okay maybe we'll run it on me later and let's make Make sure Mikkei actually gets off to a good start. Yeah, I was just thinking that, isn't there a bit of like, anti-synergy between Drow and Lich? Cause Lich sacrifice, I know it only starts in two minutes, but he sacrifices creeps. And Drow is like susceptible to getting dove. Like, I feel like the lane might be easy to roam on by Tofu if they like collapse with like a techies plus one. I mean, I guess I'm, every time I see Drow, we want to pressure her, we want to dive her, and maybe Lich enables that a bit. Lich is really good against techies. Yeah, cause you can... Sinister Gaze and the Blast off. Yeah, and they sure knew they were gonna pick Techie, so they'd pre-picked... So everyone's just, like, pre-picked Howering the other team, so it's, like, inverse, like, it's, like, reverse Cap'n's draft or something? I will note one interaction that, I don't know, has been seen too much. Trous Multishot is not considered an instant attack, and so Reactor Taser does not interact with all, you know? Mmm, that's good to know. I guess that's actually that's probably the same mechanic as you you can multi-shot during smoke Yeah, exactly. I won't party this is probably the same thing. I will say it feels like you gotta wait with this first big drought Very much so I don't feel like a liquid are doing with it at all. Are they doing it or no doing what Bobo's on his feet Oh is liquid doing it? Yeah, let's see what's in the box. Okay, you're the sub bug I think this entire is a great pick just because it enables the draw like right now It's like, okay, you're gonna get doomed potentially. You're gonna get when when Ranger focus fired now you have The centaur cards and it's also simultaneously a very good pick against win ranger We've seen win rangers try to focus fire a centaur. It's a lesson You'll meet the really one learn once you kind of kill yourself faster than he kills you then you kill him What is so they're they're thinking about like lane dominating five for tofu that's with a hero like Nick Since are you probably want to make sure you don't give them the heroes that make it difficult to cut the wave So Bane makes sense. Is there another five Avery? That's like the best anti-wave cutter Yeah, I mean you said the Bane I do think Pogna They kind of want a melee finds the thing but there's like no good man I feel like they're going to pick Trin again or something. I'm just going to be like sad, you know. The interesting here I think is Grimstroke here. I think I actually use them to like AoE control and teamplay out of the five, which is a little difficult to get. They do ban the primer, but it's quite a good ban. But yeah, the melee five is just kind of baller right now. There's Elder Titan, who actually has a surprisingly good win percentage, but this is not anything to do with it. Yeah, what if they're block picking up Mipho? Hmm, Marky King there. I guess that's like the banning to carry that would be pretty oppressive. I like that ban. You guys ought to feel inside the first-gen gaming, like, their draft is nice, but... I feel like these last game was the anchor in those of the games, but a lot of this draft really entered the new game. I'm not sure if she's got a stun and a body in Centaur in it, but it doesn't feel like the easiest fight to take because you have a squint right there, she's been on many of this stuff for this whole season, and if you have a doom, it's like an either commit on you or doom, and I'll take the fight in the first place. Like, I just don't see a perfect hero for XG here to make this Drows game easy. Yeah, I mean, I see what you're saying. I'm kind of like computing like, where do they... what do they do with that? that because like I agree with it and typically it would be something like on Mars to like anchor the fight yeah it's so that she can hit people before they run away but you already see the centaur. It's 250, that's why I mentioned it because I think it does fit the hero they wanted but this is a rough E.T. game he's pretty bad against lich armor plus the the Drow Ranger. Does that hero address your concerns It doesn't really address mine. Lushrack. Sorry, I know you like the Elder Tide, but it is a weird game for it. It doesn't do what I was doing in terms of setting up for the draw ranger, but it can play its own game. Now you have this Lush who's going to be running around with his Centaur, plus an X plus Lich, and you don't necessarily need to activate your draw this same way. You can just kick back and farm and maybe be more selective, but that entirely depends on NTS winning his lane. And do you think it's a one lane here, Avery? I think it went. He's been laning pretty well. I don't think this is that bad of a matchup. I was surprised he didn't take the Ember, because I think that was the hero that pulled this XG lineup together. Even if you're playing in a doom, no matter what you pick there as an initiation for a spellcaster, it is going to get risk of doomed. It's going to be a doomed target. I don't think you can think about that. And I think the Ember looked better with the Frost Shield, with the mix fall-up than the Lesh did. Less of a setup hero, more of just an independent hero. Like now, do you want to cart the Lesh in the fight? You want to cart the drought? Who are you giving priority to here? I think it's a little more hit over speed, but It's a comfort big for them. They just jammed it. I can jam with it And now we can celebrate your prediction of the elder type. So you were apprehensive Because it's not a very glorious popular hero, but you did see value in it as a melee 5 it brings their lineup together It's pretty nice with all the long-range high magic poke Techies win ranger puck with the spirit on top of somebody you're just gonna disappear here. That element I really like of it and it's kind of a teamfight combo breaker here. It's a decent matchup against the Knicks. He goes in, tries to stun people, you just go spirit, stun them, get slept, set up. I think if both teams play the lanes equally skilled, Liquid's gonna win this game. That's my feelings on these drafts. But that has not been happening. That has not been happening. So I do see Lesh like representing high tempo, just kind of run them over early game. I think like Nisha, Puck, if it gets to the game though it's quite scary and I have a feeling it's gonna get there it's like my gut says this extreme good draft is the worst one of the three like I think they've had two really good drafts in the first two games they kind of botched it in game two and I don't feel that same feeling about this third one so I have the same read on that but I do think that extreme gaming can just play without winning their lanes too like they have a lot of you know small kills and combo potential around the map but I do agree that it is a It's the harder game for them to win. Looks like Avery's ready to dissect this. Who's going to 16-0 in this one, Avery? I had to get my gloves out for this prediction, because it's a bit messy. It's a bit messy. Let me channel my soul read on this. 16-0. Elder Titan. Hell yeah. Tofu, 16-0. No. Oh, but it's gonna be awesome. Okay, give it to my boy, NTS, 16 and all of the track. He's never gonna die this game. He's gonna be unkillable, unkindable. He's gonna have the stampede. He's gonna have the frost armor. He's gonna have the algae from the drought. What can you do against this guy? He's a one-man disco pony and he's taking them all the way down to... Town, town, Brian, town, town. One way to get this. Which means, based off your predictions, he's gonna lose. Let's get into game number three with Gareth and the Coss. If we learn anything, history repeats itself, and every just made another bold prediction. A 16-0 left-track means he is short, lose the game, and Liquid have already got this one in the bag, Lacoste! Yeah, this is what history taught us, as well, in the last two years, that extreme gaming, they cannot win against Team Liquid, they can drop, but they cannot win, especially in a B03 and I thought they might go for dust instead of this one because it also stops what Stampede wants to do, it kills off these heroes, you know, also have extra bit of a save. E.T. is also kind of a save hero as well in a way, but this hero is just a weird one right now. There's a reason why we're not seeing the hero because ever since his innate ability changed with the passive and everything, he gains armor equal to the percentage of his bonus movement speed. Yay! So, that's, uh... I don't think this is what the hero wants to have. It doesn't really synergize with the Keter. He is the body. He's starting with the boots of speed, and he's gonna try to give it the treatment. It's also a hero that can potentially stop the pull right now, extra 37 damage on him. Well, Exnova already down to 30 health. And potential to drag the wave of liquid gonna recover the lane. Already starting out with what three heroes top to bully ex-ex-ass. Tofu is defeating FY in this lane dragon situation up top. Difficult situation for extreme gaming across the lanes already except for mid. Well that track is already seven and nothing against the four-nil punk. Something to go that way. NTS had extremely good games. Thoughts of these games and Beast Pass especially the second Okay, oh, I'm a Oscar fairy fire actually gets the first blood mad is not gonna get the kill Inside step the last bomb taking down that 10 keys That's where to recover things as ace has taken the radiant wave all the way passes on tier one And that flies doing the same thing over on that left-hand side I'm pretty annoying hero to contend with though. So it looks like tofu is actually going to be the one controlling the lane Looking to last it and denies. Even getting spirit in towards the ancient camps. So we can build up even more prowess in that lane. Then we can stop back on Windranger and try and gather the next wave. No honourable head-on laning. Everyone's trying to skip and dodge and juke and jive. Get away from these ranged carries which are very irritating to lane into. It's game three so everybody wants to do something different. something different they want to get this done again this is the elimination series so gotta give all your best boot the speed ready level one this also pushes windranger to level three in this lane and puked it meant for a cover after NTS has a very good start on this last rack yeah racing up the board back in the second spot That's a good fight. Just snipe out the ranged creep with the Impale. You're knowing that he's not really going to be clicking heroes with spells. Just continually gathering all the creeps back. Nice little courier micro from Mickey, making sure that that doesn't get caught or picked off. So that's something that we always see from 9 Class. An ability to do multiple things at the same time, where you're dragging weight, blocking camps, centering, warding, sliding couriers. If you make sure Nix can't do two or three jobs at the same time, you're in a much better spot. I'm going to engage with the Null and the Bracer. Give him an additional bit of laning stats. I don't have access to the small camp, though. Double sentries there, making sure no lane equilibrium resettings are liquid. I'm going to auto-trigger D-Maw, is it? Ame also a good start. Like, we talked about Ame being always obsessed with one hero, where that's Chatharmaad, DreamLeague, so whether he is trying to make something else viable, This could be pretty big. Yes, Mr. Gaze, into the multi-shot. Boxing very low, but the way that Ace just guns it for Army's Drowranger, almost taking it with him. They're not respecting the fairy fires. This is the second time they dive deep, and obviously, we'll have the fairy fire because we bought two at the start. As Ace and his career who died. Yeah, you say it's boxy, but Army can just continue laning. And we saw this match up as well earlier on, right? Faith behind against Kiritich, the Doom against the Drawranger. It's not easy for Doom when you're just being right clicked and pummeled. It's not, and I feel like they could have felt this one coming, knowing that I may just pick Drawranger multiple times this tournament. And also, this is not an ace hero by any means. This is not something that you would connect when you think about ace as a player. It's not going on to this tower and diving zone. Tofu and Fyre both arrive, but other hypnotizers are stunned. Ace is doomed, Pops will load just a bit of a heal, touch back up, but he's gonna fall here. I'll main trade it out though, because Tofu and Boxing make sure they focus down the carry. Let's have a sacrifice is such a nice ability because you always eat a creep, but also having mind that with you eating creeps, Lane is also pushing in, and Drawranger, she's not the type of a hero that likes to have to have a wave under the tower. I think Team Liquid realizes that so they rotate to the bottom lane. Make sure that they have that extra damage and they kill them off. Level 5, minutes 6, left track rotation. Coming into this bottom lane and looking for Tophu. First point contact with Boxy. Multi-shot, he has the gaze, plenty to control him. Down you go. Big fan of this early move from nothing to say to try and recover a bit of momentum in that bottom lane. NTS having a great series, winning his lanes. Tofu and A is straight back at it though, the big punches. Nice ult at the top and brings the damage, but the control from Fy who's stuck it down here, they keep X Nova alive and get the kill on Tofu. Extreme gaming, you know how important these lanes are. I'm just thinking about that Ashraic pick in particular. You know that first pick, Doom, the era pool and nothing to say, there are a lot of questions about what he was going to play. Hey, flashback a cool little pick up here, it doesn't necessarily care. Cache is in mid here. Without being doomed. And all this is courier though, is Fy, wanders back through that mid lane. Mech is courier also, these are professional E-Atlants, Gary by the way, they are getting paid a lot of money, but the one thing they can do is they cannot micro their couriers. I can't do it myself, Viter, but the... What does the E stand for? Exceptional, extravagant. Extraordinary. Extraordinary gamers. Elite. Elite gamers. They are. One of them has doubled up the wave top to farm behind tier 2. And nothing to say again with the rotation. Playing as though he is one of these spirit heroes. Very active of the honest match. Sinister gaze, drag back. Blast off as a defensive tool to be used by Boxy to escape. Got the doom of the techies out there. Back towards their wisdom shrine. What I was going to say, already making his mark on this game, 3200 net worth, having a crack in time. That also gives a bit of space to FY to get some experience mid. Level 6 on Nix, very, very vital. It gives him a bottle charge. NTS, very sacrificial, in a way. Even though in the second game he was the one, he was the true carry of the team, it's just the rest of the team wasn't able to match his performance. I'm wondering if that's a conversation they've had in between games where Armies say hey guys, I just didn't have a game. Yes, we've got this really fat offlaner in mid, but if we don't get the carry up and running with the damage, what's the point? So now there's a lot of emphasis put into this bottom lane. Play through Armies, Drowranger, Liquid realize this as well, understanding that if they can bully this Drowranger, make sure that the chase doesn't come. They can shut Armie down. Nothing to say. Aiman Haroon is going to go and guard it on this body on the front line. Arcane Haroon is going to be snapped by Nisha. Coil snapped and yes dead. An F1 and a 1v3 trying to deal with a puck. Ah, he can't do that. Mickey, double kill, carry rotation, matching everything nothing to say has been doing. Oh man, MTS, nothing to snap, but he snaps the coil. That was so well placed by Nisha. So he gets Haroon on top of that, they get the kill. And they get an extra one from Nick's Assassin. They would use Stampede at that one. Oh, that's a... that's a rough carry. That's a rough one. That's great for Liquid though. Getting Nick in Volves. Money flowing into his pockets. Straight back up to this top lane. I think I went up 1v3 here against the Lich Nick Sento. Though, they've brought them through the Twin Gate TP top to deal with Nick. And they're gonna clash on this Windranger. As quickly as that, I moved to bottom lane as Liquid. They have left Army all alone down here, so now they're carrying on opposing sides, being surrounded by three, trading out one for one. We've seen that in the first game, when he was playing Drawranger as Walt ever, making a move, and every single time his team made something happen on the map, he did die. After having a good start, he did start with the first blood in this third game, but also needs to be slightly more careful. sent you word just outside of the range for this observer word that liquid did place behind your one tower bottom they're dragging us out getting ace back into the game you've been having a pretty torrid time so far 1300 health raindrops and wand but it's nowhere near enough to sustain the onslaught that comes his way down again What is wrong with my name? MTS? He's in a lot of trouble. Flo is a blast off trying to line it up, but he's actually starting to step the tank. He's nicely done. Bricks, three of the danger. Still at half HP. And also, Foo is gonna come in with some punches. Get the briefcase going on to Ex Nova, but he... I'll stick around here. Ex Ex Dazz for the help of FY have got the chain disabled on him. Down goes Foo Foo while nothing to stay. Sticky bomb on the bomb misses. He doesn't latch it onto Lash. Lash just launches himself back to fountain, and even tips Nisha there as they went diving in the tree line. The reason why I said I love play on Ame, what he did was he joined with the rest of the team, because if he's around his team he can't really die, so instead of tipping back to bottom lane, he tipping stop, they get extra bit of a gold with the assist, and now he goes through the twin gates, making sure that he's still very healthy in this area, And I want to see Ex-Noah get his level 6 in the lane so that he can actually protect him. He will have Stampede available if he's in trouble. This is one of the best abilities in the game against Doom. When you're playing against him on the map, not so good against Coil. Not against everything else, it does feel really nice. Now we alone together strong. So I'm next playing on top jungle. There's tons of vision there to scout out where Mickey is having. I don't know where he is. Throw Ranger Hunts into the back, stampede into the coil. Trying to multi-shot back into this elder titan. I think you know your Drown's dead here. Just trying to save him, buy some time, with the spells and catch maybe a trade and turn. Doom chucked out onto Nix's assassin. Drown dead and so far no collateral damage. That's a chance of getting chased by Nisha though, for us back towards this tower. Doom gonna tick. And low, but not enough to kill. Unfortunately, Lich was not level 6x, no, I needed extra bit of XP. And as you said, Stampede, it's good against saving you against potentially Doom, but against Coil. You are kinda stuck in there, and let's see where Ami decides to go. So, you peek to the mid lane, and make a move on the techies. He's too speedy in the river, too speedy. With reactive taser, taser, if you ask me right now what's the most OP ability in this match, I would say taser. The fact is you just put it on allies, speed around, zoom across the map, disarm, do what you want. It feels like he had the river buff in the river, which you don't get, because there's no current in this river, it's still water. It's a little puddle, stagnant water, so it's dangerous, dead even in terms of net worth. 9-6, but liquid looking for a play on the army, plant the mines around the drown, blow them up, where Toxy and Nisha's moved, they're just so quick to get across the map into these action areas. And this is without the vision, they don't check liquid PCs because they're onto something. Yeah, they have very good read on the game where Armac is farming. Next attack is level 6 right now, FYI, he's got things out behind enemy lines. He's all ace. Step forward, so he starts off with a Vendette stun chain combo, blast him with a Frost of the Lich, dragging back into death. Every time you give, you lose. One hero dies on one side, and you're close inside another fall. I'm trying to push down this tower now. Cliff up from liquid though, delaying things. And our mate's gonna shift back in towards mid lane. Again, draw range, a bomber, the net worth. Out of these cool heroes. And Nisha's gonna drift away from the gas, but look at where he's over in I thought maybe they'd make something more of that, but nature's just too slippery on this bug. You're always going to be worried about Nick's assassin striking from the fog, but apart from that, he's pretty telegraphed how they're approaching. Nice try from Extreme Gaming to play into where Amé is, because he got outmaneuvered three times, does have four deaths at the moment, back to farming in the triangle. triangle Again liquid they had vision at least they had vision behind enemy tower in the mid lane It seems like he asked for help next Noah is hugging him at the moment I was gonna say it must be screaming for help the way this game is going the last two games have been pretty hard Honestly game two an embarrassment for our mate That how we expect him to perform Stepping up again through this mid lane with a couple of heroes behind Nisha tier 1 tower taken. And they're not bleeding out, they've created a nice firewall in front of Mickey to make sure that no one can bypass this river and get into the jungle and find him. But it does leave Ace exposed, as the only hero on the map showing. But we're still attempting a maneuver to catch any stragglers, kind of difficult to catch up to this though, and knowing that there's that bead and data, a lot All tools for extreme gaming still to use. Gonna have to catch them. Alright, again playing on a different side of the map, and again, X-Nova is gonna park himself onto that ramp, making sure that nobody can come close. If they're making a smoke move, Army for now, he's gonna keep farming. This is also gonna be not the best for X-Nova, because you still wanna be getting some farming late. even though you have access to Greedy Enchantment later on, it does feel like you getting the items, getting something for your drawranger, because it feels really good and I think for this one, having Glamour Cape is going to be pretty big. Plus you have Centaur, who's going for Pipe, so realizing that most of their damage is going to be magical, having these two items is going to mitigate quite a lot of that damage. I'm dying a sentry. There's a vision here to catch a glimpse of FY. X-X-N is going to stab me in towards this elder titan boat. I've got tons of ways to layer their stuns. As long as they can get that initial catch on the target, it does get easy. Now they're taking out all these terrible towers. Now looking at the top jungle with another straight up stomp from X-X-S. Chain stun in onto the park and down goes Nisha. Getting caught by a sento stomp there is not something we usually see as of now And this is even after using stampede is that mid lane? They want a puck on the initial jump in the mid lane, but they didn't get him Right now they are getting scouted Characteristic from nature. Maybe it's the posture because it's it's up straight again. Is he something like shrimp again shrimpy slouch Thanks for the drums in the hand of Midas. I've seen this plenty of times. Try and scale on the Doom and catch up into this mid-game. Looking at nothing to say. The 18 Spirit, Skalman blast off. Wouldn't it be nice if they landed it correctly? Not as clean as they would have liked and that left boxy exposed. That's so... Value from Carapace in this game is through the roof. It's great against the keys. Buck needs to be much more careful how he's using his orbs as well. E.T. against his spirits as well. Ah, fly just find the bonus kill. Even Doom with this course, er, there's so many spells, free BKB, that are gonna be super annoying. In extreme gaming, finally we are seeing mid-game that is going in their favor. I'm a-smiling now. Like, oh, thank, thank you, team! Playing four in front of me, going, get aggressive in the enemy jungle, make sure that Liquid can't come and hunt me down. He's got a knee-shirt and he's two swords. And now boxed it again. Over these ancients trying to stack and build up back for his squad. It all gets turned on its head. There's nothing to stay to make sure around all the ancient camps. Too many legs in this triangle. They brought four heroes, which was 14 legs, Gary. It's a lot of legs. It is. Never skip a leg day. That's what they say. Grow that extra leg. I thought Cento's greater. Ex-Excess is having a blast of a game. 3-0 and 6. Continue to farm up. We've just talked about, gotta be very careful how you use these orbs. It can backfire. If FY was, you know, 50, 100 range in a different direction, he probably has that catch on nature. Aw, they just found him with the scams and they came to take. He used it on a creep, I believe. Ah, Stenis De Gea is completely wick. Ah, that's rough. Look at that little golem or a little frog in the river. And now Liquid realizing, hang on a second, let's down. Lesh spent his spells and Esha can react and coil onto this. Nothing to say Lesh Ragn. Little bit of disaster strikes in that northern part of the map for Xtreme. Maybe I should have not said anything. I said the mid-game looked very crisp. And then if they get a kill on Windranger, he lives, and they can probably reset because they have a chain frost on top of that. FY. No one dead after 25 seconds but they do see him make success ready with the blink. Start with a distiller follow with the centaur and now even army is joining in. Launch the damage towards the doom and a centaur stampede charging forward towards tofu they've called a glimpse of him on the retreat. Oh the shot was shot allows them to excellent trade from that initiation. Well done by Mickey to back up his support. I'll have it to escape. This is the time where Mickey would want to get involved though. There's a BKB for him. Not a fight in that top lane to be had though. He understands the importance of a BKB in this game. No Mjolnir, no Dragonlands, Hurricane Pikes or anything. Mellstrom straight up to BKB. Not a good shackle. Doesn't pop the BKB for this. Nixon starts him. He's even got Invis and has no reveal. So I don't know if he would have had it anyway. And they're looking at this putt in the mid lane. Blanked into Carapace. Nisha. I can't. I'm character-addressing mistakes from him. It's a hard matchup. A lot of the times you see putts being very careful, they also might need to pick up an earlier gem for him. Oh, A's best aim. A's cock and no man's land. Got baited by the Nixx again. Went for FY, fake-pumped the doom and they get turned on quickly. Such a valuable Nixx assassin pick. FY destroying this game completely. 4-1 and 10. Some of his early rotations were definitely on point and care-based usage He was ready to blink in When to jump and scout see what was going on in that high ground You can't go for this type of a play when you're playing against next assassin That's all the time in the world to draw a ranger to finish off Agamceptor There's the slowness mile lean back in the chair. He knows why Nick's assassin He's always there ready and waiting Has been scouted though near this tormenter Blast off straight on it with the minds all on to everything on to FY Finally some retribution for liquid things are starting to get out of their grasp six key lead for extreme 21 minutes in if they bring doom they have enough damage because of this tormentor okay focus fire ready I should now the doom and the pucks sub 9k net worth you're looking at triple rated cores above 11k liquid needs some kind of objective some way to get back into this the mines and the blast off they help the doom get the tour me Hello? He's flying, and we'll get the shot. In the meantime, they've got Rocham. No way for Liquid to come and contest this, they're extreme going to get the Aegis. Very good, Reed. So much for gaming knowing that there is going to be a Rocham attempt after getting that kill, after killing off Nick's assassin, and getting a Rocham for Lashrack this time around. Lashrack... His item is finished. He does have Bloodstone coming on the courier, which is going to make him super tanky, get a Frost Shield, get a Glimmer Cape on him, pipe. Even Stampede is going to be super valuable. I can bait with the army as well if you want to. Oh, I guess if you go running straight in towards this jungle, the Glimmer is a tumble, sent to a stomp. There's no creeps to gaze. I think it's safe. He's been swept up by the ET stomp, so Nisha actually makes a break for the high ground. this time they didn't have the chain stuns to kill them off completely from hundred to zero so that's a mango on the floor and it's not a mango it's a mushroom you had too many mushrooms Gary you can't even recognize mushroom from a mango that's what happens identifying forna is a difficult floor is a very difficult task you know And Windranger, the top lane, disappears! Why has the chain start out of extreme? Windranger didn't even get a chance to BKB. When you're out on this map again against this mixed assassin, so many ways to gap-flows with Fampyve. And a Blink Dagger's from them. Like we're falling further and further behind. This is such a genius, Centaur fake as well, because this hero, what he does and which items he buys in this game, counters everything that Team Liquid wants to do. He's bailing at the Blade Mail, which you're never going to get focused prior by Windranger. It's also Pipe Carrier, most of the damage they have is magical, and then you're going to be picking up Lotus Orb, Dread against Doom, you can pretty much remove everything that Team Liquid does have, especially to precast it. And then the next item is going to be Agatom Scepter. So you will have a save or a secondary save, so whoever gets doomed, it's mostly going to be used in or on your last track, or your drawrangers, so you can still deal damage even if you get initiated on. Well, the car is off there. I'm getting vision of Nisha, though. Nisha blinked out. Being a very irritating hero to shove in that bottom wave over and over again, I've seen another orb fly by, but DIA vision, gonna keep tabs on the next assassin until he finally be awards it. Very smooth sailing for Xtreme though, playing three lanes at the same time and farming jungle while Liquid are sat back, playing this buddy system very tight together so losing Efficiency on the map Okay, he's kind of touched away behind his own tier two mid trying to get what he can Just a real dangerous game that Nisha's playing I think he has to I think he has to push the limits. They are using a scan knowing something They go through the twin gate Oh that's so much damage onto him, this killer. Makes sense, he's still going to die but he can flash back looking for the trade-out on the techies. Punk is going to shift away. I'm making sure they can kill off his necks. Oh, Arma is being looked at. Three members of Liquid are up here. Pace with a blink. They don't see Armay anymore. And now Centaur is gonna come across cut through the jungle. So they want to try to jump it. He sees him on the low ground. 2.7k blade mail pipe Centaur. Well he's just gonna flick away anyway. I think we were setting up for something but I don't see the target they wanted. Have we seen Doom being used other than one of them? Next assassin, Autumn, Chillin' Tower. He's stacking them up. Gonna release the... ...Neggith's Doom we've ever seen. That's how it happens. For Liquid's sake, we sure hope it's available, but... Building up is powerboar. Every punch on someone, he's like... Once he gets the BKB, things aren't gonna be much easier for him. They have no abilities that go through debuff immunity. other than that while eating but you're really not afraid of it so you can chase people down you've been very annoyed by the next assassin throughout the whole game has been a menace that's why it's got things out to this bottom lane just in case somebody wants to go in front break the smoke break the gank don't necessarily need to go for the kills non-stop literally have a Blinked anger yet, but he's being very annoying. Didn't get a tremendous amount out of this Aegis. The net worthly is kind of plateaued around seven or eight thousand. Two jammed after jammed a bit. Which is a nice little job sat on the elbow of the map. Push this wave over and over again. And it's a good army in prime position now, 17k for him. Big old Drowranger, I'm only worried about the jump from the Doom. And very soon you're gonna have a Mantis foil to be able to reset and maybe reposition. Figure out the Hurricane Plague as well if you want to do later on down the line. What kind of position they're in? for the center up in the front line scout out where liquid is standing trying wrapping behind with the lich so I was not to go for it it's really near that's why I was down in the shadows in the bottom jungle maybe expecting someone to come and clear this wave can solo kill him but maybe with the stampede with the blink dagger on Leshrac, Leshrac also has case for it first kind of things out they won't block see squee spleen spoon and steam spleen I don't have anything I was like yeah he's squealing it's assassin though same story down south simple stop misses on the doom I still got BKB for ace if he wants to use it but see how quickly he runs away with 406 movement speed. Get the gap. Now he's gonna beat any turn with a doom on the left rag. Always be shackleshotted up. Matastar used now. Champros coming in, but liquid. They find the target, able to fall back from that flight, reset, rally around the doom, find pick-off after pick-off. Nice. Sandor attempting a TP. That was optimistic. Surrounded by liquid now as they get massive kills on the map. That lead? Dabbed him nothing. Nicely played Scopzero Ward by Tofu. He plants it down and Amme instantly realizes something is off He's like they have vision over here. Also a bit of an odd engagement You can't really stun lock somebody with less track because they have a BKB It gives them half a second of time to react and then he gets shackleshot immediately Lotus Orb did come in slightly too late. Even if it If you get it early, it doesn't really matter because you're still gonna get focus fire and you're gonna die That's awkward. All things considered, getting dragged into the spot for our hand corner, next being the first hero to die, and then getting sucked into an area where you just can't see, playing blind into this dark tree line. Liquid exploiting the terrain and the map in general perfectly. Liquid are definitely back with this move. And also to point out that we haven't talked too much about this combo, You have natural order which is armor reduction and Magical reduction on top of that so it's very very good against or with With the wind ranger so because she's dealing a mixed damage She is magical and physical and if you walk on to one target with ET being on top of them That's gonna be really good ET be ET be the battlefield Especially when Drow has what 33 armor whatever it is pretty hefty armor value just gets shredded by the CT. That was a really cool backheat. You have the combo with the puck as well. And with that just that, you also have Parasma on puck, which makes their magic resistance even lower. So they will receive, like, even techies, so they're actually stacking it. Magic resistance reduction, tons of it. Sorry, I have to whittle down these BKBs and play many extended teamfights Or just get that immediate jump scare catch on someone. FY, just get this carapace. Anisha's gonna exploit this moment to go for a two-man coil, snap it on the centaur. Shackleshot doesn't latch on the two of them, but Mickey's gonna keep poking from the high ground. And Smova in the back being chased back by Ace for a scamp, he gets the centaur onto the ET. The Glyroph and Tofu trying to slip away, get up to the little mine on the high ground. Liquid have left itself a Titan all on his lonesome, but it looks like he's pretty speedy. Finally nothing to say will catch up with his slow on his stun. Where did the rest of them go? Nisha was hunting the Lich. Ex-Nova breaks free of that with a blink and a glimmer. So, Windranger and E.T. down for a Nick's Assassin. Yeah, without using the full BKB, pretty much. Oxy, use himself out and just a blink out, nothing to say. Can't really chase him. Oxy has been very annoying this game, planting some mines around the Twin Gates, sees Nick's assassin, what he wants to do, and opted to go for a blink dagger on Techies. This is not an item build that we see, he did the same thing in game number one on Hoodwink, wanted to be slightly more maneuverable. The link blasts off and falls down. You've got more than a screen worth of movement. F.Y. Yeah, it's a little poke on Danisha. You'll step into the sky, lines up the star and then you die. Perfect, you died. Oh, well, execute, dude. I allowed the reaction from Danisha. Like, not bad. There you go, mate. Even with the anus, that was such a clutch move from F.Y. an end, rocking his andisk and then using dual sector immediately so you don't care too much about the status resistance that he's getting in another person with time's time. Are we Sean? With the roar, no puck, no buyback. And we just had a moment where Liquid looking like they got themselves back into this game. Few moments of brilliance, and FYI showing why he is one of the greats of all time. I'm gonna be taking the time to make sure that he gets the Aegis. Can't really blame him. 100% success rate. Gats off the goodies from the road pit. We have five minutes of freedom for our mate to sit in the fights and not get caught by this puck and windranger. E.T. is getting close to his agonim scepter. He's farming with greedy, not something that you want to be doing. You're still farming, but it's very slow because you are farming with your red clicks. Eventually, he's going to get it, needs another 700 gold to finish it. huge I am from a though butterfly delivered me on there which blade but a lot of emphasis on right click is gonna be neutered by this yeah Mickey Asian didn't buy his item he just bought a demon edge and as soon as he saw that butterfly immediately stops didn't buy any of the components he wanted to go for data list and this is the big item this is something that I mentioned that's gonna be very crucial so he picked up Agadamn's tifter on a centaur. I was watching FY, his approach to the team fights. It's coming on the courier. He's being patient with this one, letting X-XS lead out. Already forcing a reaction out of the park, giving vision across liquid. And keeping vision here with X-Nova placing some nice observer wards, they've got full vision of battlefield. And don't let them stun Aneesha now and a two-man Stomp can set up a shot for shot, thanks to the force staff forward. With the coil and blast off, they've taken down FYNXXS! Like Stream Gaming thought they'd have to set up, but I thought so too, but instead they have to beak any TV home! Beautiful setup from Tofus, he read that really well knowing that they're gonna try to go for this type of a move where Nisha blinks in, uses the orb backwards and then they blink in trying to stun him. So two of them get stomped and then immediately They realize we can actually go somebody makes the call make a fine an angle for that perfectly To stun targets gets the shackle shot and as that shackle the fights pretty much over So the tar who's supposed to be your big guy doesn't get stampede doesn't get the workhorse off They need to be give me TP out you with the ages That's gonna be MKB for make it in the next minute or so That's all it takes. Why are we so often to talk about these? These monumental teams, Liquid, Team Spirit, the TI winners, sometimes laning phase, sometimes mistakes, sometimes mid game, doesn't really matter. All they look for or something, all they need is that one moment to shine. Yeah, that one clutch play, like one spell that everybody is going to follow up on. It's now there in the lead, 2k advantage for Liquid, off of, off of what, two team fights? Two skirmishes, two skirmishes, basically. from that it's been extreme gaming running the entire map. You grasp onto anything you can get. Liquid Broodling, while they are some of the best. Now they've got Map Space Bottom to farm out. They're wasting all that time of the ages, and Puck is going to shift away. Oh, man. Things are aligning for Team Liquid. He's down, this gets brought, while he still has the orb. Status resistance kicks in, and then he's just out. Doctor in core now available on him lowering the cooldown off his annoying spells and also lowering the cooldown on that A on this which has been up to 145 seconds already. Okay, be done. See if Liquid want to make a move into this mid lane, because they've got some very strong vision placement already. They see their northern jungles being invaded in a moment, with their high ground ward watching a stream getting advanced. The lane ward mid, now a scan, pretty much full information for Liquid to understand what's going on as the mines blow up. So they can reposition... Someone's put down and... All distilled assets on the floor. Early warning system, just be informed. Yeah, Nick's ass through, it's kind of scout things out. Almost got Boxy. Scan. Radiant? No. AT-Sphere, I'm gonna move through them. Boxy and A. It's this time, he finds him. They find the girl on Boxy, but FY is alone. Stampede, not gonna be able to catch up to them now. And Nisha's positioned right in behind them. Self-hules, f1, parry-pace. Not expecting a big move, but it's extreme gaming to get on the windranger first. Chain disables galore into the carpet, go with the lash as well as Ace went in with a BKB Doom. Not enough firepower from Liquid as they get blown up on their windranger. Now with a puck and techies. In behind the defensive line of extreme gaming, X-XS. They try to punish the puck. They weren't hunting with the techies in the back, but this blast-off blank force, too much maneuverability. There's like three different fights happening at the same time. Boxy, kinda doing his own thing, and he's trying to think about, knows that BKB is still available. Boxy's on the high ground, but not for long. He was in no man's land. Nobody from Liquid wanted to help him out. And this is the second or third time that they're able to blow Windranger up from 100 to 0. Ace might need to shift his priority as well. I know that it doesn't feel as good to Doom Centaur. With Agnes Scepter, it's gonna be much different. He does have it on the career, so you can actually use it. Try to blink on one target. There's not gonna be workhorse available. Up until center gets BKB, and then maybe you get a blink level 25 talent So then it changes again in favor of doom because he can't use a BKB Bits of calm You're saying panic time is coming up soon It's got to be a minute and a half until Roshan, both teams really want it. I'd make him screaming for an Aegis. If only I could have two lives in these fights, we could crush him. And Xtreme have been using these Aegis to keep Armae alive in the fight to make sure it doesn't get focused down. Two kind of glass cannon carry heroes require a second life. Next up, Eon Disc Down and AoE Doom comes in from Ace to clear out Exnova. They spend a fair amount to kill off a Lich. And there's still another potential go from Exfu Gaming if they want it. They don't necessarily need Exnova to get in there. Just give them a little bit of vision. Liquid will never give you that target. They know how much they spent. And I've got all the ward coverage from this. So for ET, watching man, watching bottom jungle. I'm just gonna play a game and decide to shift up to the top lane. Hopefully kill on tankies or FY. Gonna stand up here with a nice catch on Boxy. He's been doing a lot of work. Level 18 right now. Vendetta On 52nd cooldown, duration 55 seconds, so you can have that almost permanently Assuming that you're gonna be in this all the time and now starting things out, Nisha doesn't have a on this pretty so Needs to be slightly more careful. There is hex available on Lashrack, blink hex, blink on Lich With the Cinder Cigates, which was the initiation tool against Mickey multiple times one of the reasons why he is trying to build into Lincoln's here. He definitely needs it. Still over a minute to go for Roche though. And here's Lincoln's on the Drow Ranger too. So similar. It's Drow and Win Ranger. Lots of damage output but they're protecting. No clear save heroes on either side to protect them, so they've got to rely on themselves and have button pressing abilities. I'm just standing here, doing it. Extreme holding this high ground near the ancients, waiting to see if liquid are coming. Hey, level 25. A couple of these heroes, Drow, Lash, both crack theirs. Yeah, Lash is the big one. Extra edict explosions makes it melt the heroes so quickly. Send the multi-shot into the pit. See what's lurking. The E.T. Spirit doesn't get to the high ground either. They could know that something's up and they've got to rustle this move. So, Bob's just gonna start out. Got some mines in there. They want to find something, they want to find the pick off before this Roshan blink. BKB Hex ready. Down the mines, making ready on Misha now. Misha, he's forced FYZ on Disco already. A rough start from Extreme, not getting that jump that they desired. That's why that smoke timing matters so much, because now Liquid, they've got the opportunity to hold the high ground and maybe go for a smoke of their own. They've got one of the techies. They're looking to regroup. First up, they have a catch on the park, though. this rock as well jumped to high ground Lane's matter so much though top lane at the tier one mid lane going the other way across the river bottom lane pretty even meeting at the river mouth trying to push as much as they can make a user miller onto the creep wave and immediately running to the other side of the map he desperately wants that Lincoln's here for the next fight doesn't want to get immediately jumped by Etter Leshrac or Sinister Gaze. That hex could be his death. They have no stays whatsoever. They pop the BKBs and knowing that Mickey invested all of his gold into this Lankan stage should have a pretty good idea that he doesn't have buybacks available. It's very important that he doesn't get caught here without hearing this down. Sitting tight behind his teammates. We get another smoke maneuver out of Xtreme. Straight down this mid lane towards Boxy. FY, gets the carapace done onto the techies. Boxy's going to drop here to NTS. Mikkei opens up the focus line, and a quick car straight into the vehicle, and off he's driven. Drow Illusion also scouting out the retreat of Liquid here. If they click on techies knowing that he has sight ready, That should give them info that there is no buyback available because Team Liquid, they have to invest too much all of their gold. Process of elimination from this gang north through NY Moose East. He doesn't get stunned by the congregations of the D4, they've got A trapped in the chains done lockdown, killed by army. He can buy back. See if he has to. That's Roshan, feels like you must contest it as Liquid. Can't give Xtreme a freebie. So they will need to buy back. They will need to buy back with Doom. These are long 70 seconds. Nisha's down just coming off cooldown. Children's spot bottom. Someone wants to wander around and take it. Roshan bellows across the map as Nisha keeps scouting and poking. That's right. Look at his telefuels there. He's back on the E.T. and he wants Nisha to escape but it's the Altar Titan who's dead. With buy back, they jump from exit S though. Do we have hollow through? Why not your command to all that caught the lash in the background, make a to shred them and opens up to kill the lash? Double buyback from Liquid now, numbers advantage for the dire. TPR by a centaur required, and Liquid, where's Roshan belongs to them somehow? They could potentially try to buy back and take this fight but there it is. Dirt 2 tower still available in the mid lane. The puck is getting annihilated nearly to one more hit. 4HP! Drown Rangers didn't get the finishing touch! Somehow, Nisha gets away from that! I had a game of pixels! Such a close one! Just one extra hit, Nix Assassin. He is trying to scout things out. They've got a high ground vision. But I don't see anyone just yet. Watching ancients die. Going into the Roche bit against... E.T. That's the Forgotten Hero. Sometimes you forget what the Hero can't do. It is very annoying, constantly scouting you out, if you lands a two-man stomp, we saw what can't happen. Potentially a good Shackleshot angle. And another goby extreme. This time they've got a shield rune on nothing to save. And the armies started on this Roche take. Tons of vision, high ground wards, extreme gaming, see it all coming, the start on Nisha, fall staff away. Liquid, keep their puck out of danger. Roche-an's dying though, and they've got to make a move. The puck will play forward, already face shifting, dodging a stun. Fy has no cap, he's now turned into a little piggy. Chase forward with an E, stop and ace with a congregations with a D, but AOE Doom on the lash and they're out. Facing forward with a blast off and the lash wax being focused down, gone with no buyback. Two minutes out, under our range of the next focal point is Liquid. They found the core targets they needed. Out they go, into the roast pit. It's all Liquid now, mid game with a double kill. Ex-seem Gaming, get the hell out! I'm not sure what happened with Tentar's Blank, he was unable to Blank him and use the WarCore so I'd like to see that again because he was inside the Roche, maybe he got hit by Roche, maybe he got Baster, some like AoE damage did clip him and you can see the damage numbers, they're definitely not there and now Mikkei, he's feeling himself after picking up level 25 talent a couple of minutes ago, he can go for two different targets It's in a theme fight. This is Focus Fire. You get a kill. That's Tech-Azaphthrut. You have another one. I'm looking at the graph, Gary. Yeah, you're looking at it on my screen. Yeah. Thanks for opening it up. Oh, that's a big old swing. Seven K swing brings Liquid to 2K. Then they press the advantage, getting 5K more, making it a 12K swing overall. And it's only going to get better for them from here on out. Two heroes still down for the better part of a minute, so we're looking at, what, two lanes of Barracks? Nika, at least you're going to finish off buildings quickly. There's no Drow, there's no Lesh. Extreme gaming of nothing left. 50 seconds. We're going to bop the glyph as well. At least two sets of Barracks, maybe even another two to four tower. That's good drop with the Focus Fire. Again, it's just that little bit of liquid magic. Out executing their opponents in these vital moments. Key Pivotal pick-off, the target acquisition from Liquid has been perfect in every one of these important skirmishes. Two lanes, gone. Move to top now, look for a tier two. And you're putting Extreme Gaming in a really tough spot. Snap the coil on the Nix's assassin, attack on him, vision given, Nix's assassin bursts down, but he's got my back. Mekke dies. His Aegis life gone. Extreme gaming, might be able to get on top of him a second time with a blink and a stop. Windranger being focused, but ace, running interference in the back. Lashrack, he's on the windranger now, though, into the cart and kill off the windranger, and the doom and trouble, but he gets the TV on. He doesn't get him. Barely escapes with his life. Liquid, they came, saw, conquered the enemy base, losing the windranger, but... in a great spot now. That graph is a straight line down. That's a Marianas trench right there. That is so deep, they've lost so much. But still showing signs of life. If Ame's on the high ground, do them correctly for a second, he goes through the gates. To the safety. I also like that Ame just straight up attacked Lich, Iced Fire, because he had nothing better to attack at the time. Liquid on their way to go find the Hope Diamond at the bottom of the trench. Try and get the heart of the ocean and bring it back up. That's what they were looking for, and that's what they found. 32 to 24. You're ahead in kills. You were ahead in that worth, and now it's all swung and turned. Shuffed in your face. One lane remains up at top. Miki needs a little time to reset. They're not gonna be able... They're a bit of a breathing room. Yeah, they're not gonna be able to push out and go for the high ground, knowing that Miki does have buyback available. So, want to see how they're going to be approaching this one. Right now, we have only five heroes with the buybacks. That's Buck, Windranger, Drow, Techies, and Lich. Drow's an important one, but not having your lash or centaur. A lot of seti. Oh, what's over there? A ref, he stood up. Who's under the sort of the door? Ah, just need some fresh air, probably. He wants to let the hawk out because I see the windows open in the other room. Tunting time! Dinner time! Let your pet go and catch him. He's in pest control. Is that enough of this Nick's assassin? It's time to lure some eagles and falcons to go and deal with the nasty little bug. Back into the thick of it. 30 second waiting period for the Wind Ranger to respawn. Let's try and hold their buyback. Let's see if Extreme Gaming can recover that gem. I don't know who's it was but it's being left down in that bottom jungle near the observer board. I mean, Nisha might actually find it as he steps over. No one can see it. That Windray just made a jump as he panicked. Well this has already got Gen and he's fully 9 slotted so he wouldn't be able to pick up the gem on the floor anyway. He's always sad seeing items on the floor you know, such a waste. It all started with those mushrooms Gary, aimed him mid lane. The mango mushrooms. Yeah. And it all started with the turn that would be dropping his stick in the roach pit. But do you remember the old days when the roach pit would have branches? There was always something. He'd be split like literally seven items in the roach bin when you're picking up all the goodies. Alluding his house. Everyone's way more efficient now. Bring out couriers, go and sell your items, get your money back, get the refund. Just make sure you keep your receipt. Bob the shopkeeper doesn't take refunds for nothing. I think we're gonna be feeling very happy about their position now. I may invest all of his gold into Hyder's breath, which is an insanely good item on Drawranger, especially in the late game. 2.5 seconds of your max HP. That lasts for 3 seconds when everybody is super tanky. Liquid are really tight together, and Nix is gonna break the smoke on Misha, immediately giving vision so nothing to say he can charge in onto Voxy. Tanky easily get lit on, died in the Roche pit. Well, that's a success, he's onto Tofu, and A. Voxy dead, then buys back. Liquid from a tight formation now spread three different directions. Nisha's in the back lines. Nearly gets spammed by F-Live, is able to shorten away. Lincoln's popped now though and the multi-shots from good damage. He clipped him. Silenced and stunned, getting caught out. Nisha's popped, getting obliterated. That silence did clip him so now they can pick up the gem, which was their gem in the first place. And Liquid not holding onto formation. I love to play that NTS, I'm not sure if that was caught on camera, but he predicted exactly where Box is gonna go, so he jumped in while having Pulse Nova and Edix still running. Where are all these gems coming from? There's like another gem on the floor? They've already dropped all over the place. Well, Liquid have two of them now. At least. Refresher's shard's still down the doom as well. Well, it's a little bit of a sticky spot where Puck is dead for 60 seconds. He does not want to spend Vyvac. And something that Doom does have, this has been happening more recently, that they are picking up congregations of the Deep having this AoE stun, which does work well because Shiva's Guard also gives you AoE, which is the reason why Agnum Sceptrum Doom is so good. It increases the AoE on top of that. We're also having the Riverborne Aura movement speed in the river extra 14% and outgoing damage 14%. This is gonna, kinda the liquid lore as well, them moving through the water dealing more damage, right Sten? Yeah, it does. That's fitting. Hey, we've seen that plenty of times with the Tiny now. Flads plus this Riverborne Aura stacking up the damage. Also pretty good with the Windranger. He really does roll on his right click. It's to land. She's setting... 350 damage currently. Every little helps. Yeah, everybody should get some bottles on them, and then use bottles to fill it on the ground so that they're moving in the river. It... I didn't test it out, but I do believe it works with Slaughter. The problem is you don't have Slaughter plus Doom in a lot of situations. Like, you don't get the CD studios together. Yeah, that's right. We see that Slaughter now. Realist, you know how it works. Pretend you're playing Zelda, going around with a bottle full of tree water, planting on a Kokiri. Keep him happy. Liquid coming out of their base. A long-sweeping move with Voxy charging forwards. Scythe the bite on him, he underscrods, nothing to say, he's doomed. And Vee can be done. The physical damage done to unload from army zone. Now, Voxy, the Drow Ranger can stand and deliver the damage, and I'm trying to break free, though, as Tofu Charge is in, and they've lost track of Army's position, and now, in the car, saving the Drow Ranger can keep on loading, dishing it out, a double kill for him, and anti-espics at the third, for in the row, and a buyback for E.T. Liquid, they went in for a move, an extreme game, and just hold their ground around the Drow! Finally, we see it in action. Finally, this card comes into the play. Saves Army, he gets a triple kill, and the Wind Waker in the end. And another massive swing and another gem a 9k turn around 7k lead for extreme gaming now It's 60 minutes. It doesn't bloody matter. They're gonna go up to high ground force them all buy backs Doom and punk both have theirs techies does not That's down to Mickey to maybe try and draw their attention in People backs who's gonna be careful Doesn't have bkb either so they'll just watch their barracks fall First the mid lane, now the top. Dive, Alakir, they're going to work. Double buyback out of Lickriss, fapping it away. Extreme gaming going to reset. Nisha in with a coil of a card, and again, Stimplash! One of the three of them comes to AoE Doom, though! Nisha's forced back, Micky looking at Army. Scentor and Leshrac still alive and playing in the back, but it's the Army Drow that's found by Micky. Scentor, doomed as well. Surrounded by Lickriss, a double buyback pays off. They still have refresher or or refresh your chart from Roshan ready, but massive commitments from liquid there is No Roshan available, so they need to run it down run it down the mid lane. There's still one side of bear x-flat Everybody has buyback on their side except for Nick's assassin who is Gonna have his available in the next 15 seconds. Oh, this is why we say so often is network leads They just don't mean anything you've got six loaded core heroes. You got five backs galore water clutch stomp coming up from tofu again Focus onto army Get liquid with this park acquisition is find the correct hero the correct time layering in the stuns the damage Using just enough to find these very important kills They start long, six, seven minutes for Team Liquid. They don't have buybacks available. Buybacks are coming off cooldown and 30 seconds until they are out. MTS already prepping using split urge. No wonder they're going to come from this side. Liquid have options here. They don't have to use buybacks. They have glyph available. 20 seconds for Ami. So Liquid can try and force buybacks. They're going to go high ground to do it. But Roach out easily spawning. Just maybe wait and try and think about these 5-digital items. They're fighting against Frost Shield, Glef and Splitter, immediately keeping to an outpost. They want this Aegis to refresh their shard again, potentially on Doom. That's Roshan time. A minute before he moves as well. So they force extreme gaming to one side of the core. And then they go play the other. Where are out the legs? Start coming. Tire out Extreme Gaming as they're forced to react over and over again. And Rokken's going to die before Extreme Gaming can connect with this. Can they get them step-beam? They're going to chase them. They're going to try and catch up, but if she was going to stop, they'd get on the tofu. Chain's starting to the ET. Nisha is in there to try and break free with the TP out of optimistic from Alta Titan. Down he goes with no buyback now. But Aegis was claimed up by Nisha. She's there for Mikkei. Double gem on the floor. One's going to get picked up. Nisha controlling the courier. 15 seconds for tier 5 neutral items. Nikkei also about to consume his Agatom Scepter Blessings. Sgt. Close, game 3. Elimination on the line for whoever loses their progression for the winner. Yeah, your move speed is going to be through the roof. You're going to be moving so quickly in the fight. Your move speed goes up to 640, it procs on your attacks as well. With the focus fire, you're just moving at 640 boost speed in a fight. I made 8,000 gold on him, everybody's trying to find new neutral items. Attack speed. Is it Divine Regalia time? It might be. Rift Shadow Prism. This item, or he could go with the Bobble again. Another Bobble? Another Bobble, Gary. good lose let's see what he baubles it he baubles it actually ah that's an audacious bobble that has a lot of attack speed currently sitting at 50% let's watch him hit don't kill those ancients I just didn't disappear wait for it 20 seconds no other Titan so you have extra bit of a damage coming out from audacious and you also have extra damage from Hydra spread plus your procs and then everything it is just going to be explosive damage coming up from army Now I just means it's even more important to liquid to focus him as they have been doing in these teamfights and Then the follow-on logic from that important for this mentor to have the carts ready Extreme thinking about high ground again, but it's a difficult task They would love liquid to come out of their base I just don't see it happening. It's all lanes trending towards the dire side. Wastrak isn't nearby, he's out on the map farming. Gets the wisdom shrine, clearing through some camps, and now sprinting across to rejoin the rest of the squad. Interesting build from Ex-Ex-S, he did pick up the Zun Blunderite, Fleet put it, extra bit of the movement speed coming out from that one. And he did get Ether legs. He wants to be able to save people extra 225 cast range could really make a difference in that fight. And also looking at what Nick's assassin picked up, Spider legs. Is this some kind of a meme? They're trying to have as many legs as possible. Nick's assassin with Spider legs. It's an anti-bruno strap. Awesome. They're only missing enchantress. And then they're kinda set. Root Mother and Ench. Does Lich have legs? Do they counter? They don't touch the ground. I don't see any legs there. I think he's got legs, but they're floating. He doesn't use them, that's for sure. Undead Iceman, gonna float, gonna have your mana. Rift Shadow Prism, Harbour Nizer, Big Tier 5 neutral items. Ace and Tofu. Yes to get theirs. Jump on the Foxy, blows up the techies. Gem down. Buyback ready. I'm sorry Tofu's still deciding what he wants. So is Ace. Probably debating whether he wants to go with the debuff. Could be really good on E.T. Once you use that LT, Echo Stomp as wall. Ace. Has the zoom blood right available. Fallen Sky also might be a good option. Now the War of Attrition. Wave after wave. Liquid have to keep focused as they deal with these waves coming in. Top lane's getting shoved by the Nectro units. Now the book of the dead Lich, somebody who's un-dead friends That's what you all watch attack speed from bra render This is even free swift flanks, but he can still swap that get us with playing dead Blinkane and have Just insane amount of attack speeds I think heroes are gonna die at least we have some and this on liquid, but whoever doesn't might just die in three seconds I'm going out of the base. I thought it was scary. It is scary, Gary. You don't have vision. You don't know what's coming. But I'm extremely making sure that they're still getting stuff out of the map. There it is. Swift Blink on dry ranger. SPIRIT can keep giving vision. A little bit of information for liquid goes a long way. Standing on top of the staircase. Trying to utilize their high ground walls where they can. But it's very disciplined from extreme to hold position. Big smoke from liquid, they see army first, they jump the drought, force the BKB, the coil, and out. Now the AOE Doom defending mid cave, but it's not enough to hold on. dead for two minutes and Drat will buy back and return to Outpost. Elthetine caught and clipped by the stuns the next in the left rack. They've got the job done down you go. Liquid they can triple buy back for this but they are missing their hard carry. Nisha with a lot on his shoulders now trying to jaunt and jump in to do what he can but you're gonna lose this plane down bottom they gotta start using those buybacks level 30 last track just melt your buildings one last side left on the top lane I'm a still he's doing a lot like he blinks it which he was guard overwhelming blank let's rack he's in again straight towards the tier three forcing reaction out of nature stop as well and his double buyback not gonna pay dividends liquid hold on on for one more fight they don't know it's making us buy back I'm a is in a bit of a tricky spot to where they make the move whether they want to be going for the high ground then get caught by puck if they get caught by some doom again which isn't cool down at the moment but he does have a refresher we've seen the same scenario in the previous big fight in the top lane They're getting visioned though from their necro warriors, they're on to boxy again, trying to blow up the tankies. He gets a little bit of distance but that's nowhere near enough and there's no buyback for him, so another hero down for a long time. Big wide earth but a separate extreme gaming momentarily for their focus is on the buildings. Approaching this dire base, you can stop their back door protection from kicking in again. And now Ligwe is facing up against mega creeps. Yeah, this brock. And into the cart we go. They've slapped up the center, but the four legged creatures, they're gonna blink away to safety. Extreme gaming got what they came for. And now there's no rush. Think about next Roshan. Consider how you approach this next team fight. Extreme have the advantage. Roshan, guaranteed the respawn in slightly more than a minute. Ame wants to have that one and I see Satanic, so he can swap his BKB out to get Satanic. What if Ame gets another Bulb? Just keep going. No, never end the game. So far they had four games over 60 minutes at Dream League Season 29. That's where they flourish. This is the fifth one. It's thriving in the late game. Please, man, chaosic decision-making moments. Must be a lot of times where Liquid, I feel like they've been favored, they've looked incredible, but extreme gaming have just edged them out in these situations. Level 30s for a bunch of heroes arriving now. Mega creeps are coming, and I don't think we're seeing many mega creeps come back, especially when you have a carry with Odacious, which you have, if you have, like, Death Note 2 as well. Things are gonna die. They don't have Deso in this one, but they have Leshrac level 30 who can jump in and kill off your buildings Some delicious massive lotuses 70 minutes in Max bro Shan might get some block of cheese going Mickey's holding onto some cheese Chance to use it O'Shaan, my sound is Yelp. Debating, Nisha scouted, but dodges the stun. In comes FY, looking for another go. And I got the draw to the orb, and Nisha is back in his base. The caravane's another attempt. Nisha's trying to toy with them here. Really risky business. Another good position for extreme gaming to play from this dire high ground ancient area. Pivot from mid to bottom lane. No need to go rushing into things. You've got four and a half minutes where you can keep pressuring liquid. Force them to show heroes. I want to see what the play is going to be. Whether they want to wait it out until like a minute is left of pages which is almost going to reset flyback on Ame because they could put themselves in a spot where he just dies and dies again So they're gonna be playing fight 4v5 or whatever whatever, but I Think it's time to not risk it Wait for another two minutes, and then you're gonna be good Two minutes the fight's gonna last at least like 50 60 seconds your buyback is gonna come off cooldown So many tools here. Amplified damage, Lash. Aegis. A 9-slotted Drar Ranger. He's going for another one, Gary. 3 out of 20. Maybe that's what he wants. Buy back and get another bobble. That's what Drar wants. out of 20. And then she's gonna blaze them with the attack speed. She absolutely is. Just see how she grips that crossbow. Attack is can start planting some mines. But usually when you're in your base you're thinking oh yeah minefield or walk in. Heroes will get caught. All these mines are killing creeps. And I'm starting to struggle against the swarms of radiant minions arriving this dire base. Book of the Dead also, take care of him. Hacking himself to pluck. Doesn't have that OP talent anymore. No. Dream Coil pierces through debuff to Noonday anymore. We don't want people to, especially after the BKB change. I think this was highly necessary. Just not being able to refresh BKBs and then we got rid of that talent as well. Makes a lot of sense. Tommy needs another 10. For the man's stone bundles. There could be a lot of damage out of that Protagon and Samja. We still have to get it. BKB's Just an exit has to be so good with these car faves FY trying to get a carapace catch on the park Like you had an opportunity, but there's a lot of vision here for liquid to see where they're coming from And they're just slowly advancing forward Move 10 meters build a trench get up and go again Move 10 meters build a trench get up and go again Flank the flag the banners down to jump it from liquid now onto the standoff that's a big ticket kill He doesn't fly back well let's drag in the back. He's getting blasted down a liquid Well, they've helped that base extreme gaming with this initiation. There's no drought. There's no Linux There's no chance Jake for us still gonna kill ace I used that for two minutes Where the hell was army? He was farming his neutral item doesn't have it yet. I don't think he dealt any damage 1,800 damage and zero damage from next assassin I'm gonna kill the windranger though. An immediate blower as army just flies in like an A10 Warthog shoots out a ton of projectiles in a matter of seconds Bodyguard, Mickey. Back into base. Well, for now, it's a safe space for Liquid, but there's no way to escape it. They have no glass available. They want to go in and end it. They are finishing the throttle. Army, the damage brought down to the ground. Has to buy back, but now they've lost, Mickey. God for two minutes. Liquid holding on with what they've got. Desperate measures, drastic actions. Double buy back out of Liquid now with Nisha coming into the fray. They've taken down the Lashrack, but the Drow Rages arrived again. Incomes Army with a Flurry of Arrows! They've doomed our Ex-Ex-Ex-Ex-Ex with the A-U-E! Puck! Coiling and leashing the Drow Ranger for the stun from Fy! Lies it up perfectly! Drow Ranger, safe panic! Back to full HP! Another stun catch! Stow! Drow! She's dying! Very low! But Ace can't get it done! Tofu! With a Slap Down! Drow is gone! The Elder Tides in the real carry of the game! But Liquid only have him and Nisha left to stand and deliver! What is this Fy? Dealing with the throne with the mega creeps, leaves you all on his lonesome, trying what he can, but I don't think he can survive. The struggles to guard the throne has fallen! Extreme gaming! Take out Liquid! Oh, this has to be a massive relief knowing that they were unable to beat Team Liquid for two years in a row, not a single time, and they finally do it in this crazy 70 plus minute game again. Gary, I don't know what the hell is going on with this team. They just love this chaotic 70-plus minute Dota I'm absolutely mad They just love tier 5 neutral items get the bubbles going Incredible damage out of army as well than that one One hour 14 minutes 14 9 seconds to secure the victory It wasn't easy by any means liquid put up one hell of a fight finding so many moments of this devious this incredibly glorious attempt to get in there. Stop extreme gaming, but I'm a draw ranger. The card from XXS, and honestly, the pinnacle of it all. FY's next assassin. Oh, yeah, he was the menace throughout the whole game. The Atlantic stuns and pot-pocketers, A on this, then using Yulestepter, stunning him again. Carapace in the first 15, 20, 30 minutes. They were always on point, and they finally do it. Well, unfortunately, we have to say goodbye to Liquid, we do keep one of the Chinese squads in the running here at Dream League. Extreme gaming move on. That is correct. Yes, unfortunately, there are countrymates in Avicii Gaming fell earlier today, but extreme gaming live on off the shoulders of a 16 and other number. Leshrac predicted by my The Vaunt co-host, Avery Silverman, S.U.G. Congratulations on getting a 16 kill prediction, correct? Thank you, and I told you NTS would drop 16 in this game. He dropped exactly 16 on the dog. He got the victory. Honestly though, who is MVP in this game? It's X, X, X, what does that sound like? So many clutch carts in this game, so many 6 days. You didn't have to hate for lunch to get the extra range on the cast. This boy is a beast. Also shout out to FYF, who's pretty good at this one. And your boy Amé? What about your boy Amé? I said what I said, Neil. What about your boy Ex-Nova? Nice Nova on the 2, yeah, he was stomping off, he had some clutch little lich bounces at the end, he was snagging some nice little armor. It was a pretty high game honestly, actually, they played well today. That was so fun to watch, that was the epitome of a lower bracket game. It went back and forth multiple times, I had no idea what was going on in that late game, But I will agree that that accepts us on tour like he really put that game on his back for so many moments He put his teammates in that cart and he really clutched it, but everybody asked to carry on me Literally put him in I'm gonna carry you in the cart to victory brother. Let's go Um Brian, oh, thank you. No, I mean that game was really fun. I mean that's exactly what Dota is all about those type of games Nobody knew until the last Three or four minutes, I'd say until like XG got Megas. Nobody really knew who was gonna win that game You've got the last like 30 seconds that if eighth jumps in before the satanic goes off on Amé then maybe we're here for like another 30 more minutes we could have easily gone back the other way and they could have been in XG space lose or dying as they're responding. You know, true Yeah, so there's a lot of different permutations that could happen there There's a lot. It was a really fun game to watch and yeah, I thought the Etherland centaur like it was a really cool build I mean I it makes sense the catch range on it's really low and I think that was what allowed him to make that stick game Well game saving save on Amé with the cart literally carrying him to victory Yeah, just overall really fun back and forth. That's what it is all about shout to the ET2 Don't get to see us here a lot. I think who he owned on this game. Yeah, he got the hell But it's that sick three minutes on top. He was going in get in the briefcase in the late game your business I got you on that one. Hell yeah, bro. That's what I'm saying. I've loved seeing that shit It's a giga Chad hero with you get Chad energy. You know who else have giga Chad energy There's nothing to say. He was on top of this game today like every single game He won mid versus nation not just what he wanted Hustly and he was all over the place in this game three like going back to the early game He was constantly hunting people down constantly playing with his supports making it so that they had tempo Even though the volume didn't go the way they wanted it to on xg, but he really overperformed today 16 Drops 16 and zero and zero effectively something zero emotional death No ego death. That's right. 16 kills zero emotional damage. That's my idol and 600 a we split earth. Yeah, the disume bloated right. We got reminded why that's a tier five Those are some earthy Splitters and the audacious bubble tier 5 on the Drow Ranger as well Machine gun crossbow hell yeah I was wondering why that item got nerfed because it's like it went from 15% to 10 at the first level But another these games are actually going to 60 minutes that I feel like teams are like yeah We're anticipating this is going late. I may actually get the extra like 50 attack speed and 40 damage on his right clicks Yeah, I was wondering if he was gonna sell that butterfly because I think I mean Mickey had MKB And he had max attack speed anyway. That's true. It's not 100% ever though. That's the thing. It's like, you still get some evasion in Ultralight. Yeah, but it's like 10%. I agree. It's weird, but I think the Windranger-Drow matchup is super weird in the Ultralight. It is. Well, one man will solve it regardless of how weird it is. And it is Ame joining us for an interview. Helped by Jin to translate. Ame, that was a crazy Game 3. I saw you guys all smiling after it, I was just hoping to get a little bit of a walkthrough on the ups and downs of such a strange game. We fought very well in the early game. Until the next game, we were banned from the team. And we were sent a bit... They probably turned us down a bit. After we lost 2 rounds, we fought back. But the third round... The team fight... We didn't fight back. to bring back a lot of temple but then on the third rush on fight we lost that fight pretty horribly which gave Liquid a hugely and it made things very difficult for us but then we managed to you know control map control resources and claw our way back into the game and finally win it. Okay that's a pretty good summary but how about the emotional side of things do you ever get stressed out in late game situations or do your teammates ever get stressed out and you and you have to calm them down a little bit. How is the communication going? Are you nervous? In the later 60 minutes, I'm sure I'm a little nervous. I'll try to put the game in order. and hoping to throw the spells out before they die. Well, the best happened in this game, number three. I got BSJ for a question as well. Yeah, hey, Ami, I think you guys have been playing great in the early game. And I was curious from like a safe laner's perspective in the current patch. How important is it to defend your safe lane tower? I know it's always ideal to keep it alive, but how much emphasis do you guys put on that now compared to other patches? This analyst also wants to hear about the advantages of the version. How important is the advantages of the ETA? Is it necessary to protect it? For example, you can put it away and brush it off early. How do you see the importance of the ETA? I'll say the first tower is definitely quite important, definitely don't give it up easily and try to fight around it as much as possible but again within reasonable expectations. Thank you. Congratulations again on the win, Ame Jin, thanks for helping us translate and hopefully We will catch you after the Tundra series later on. But let both of you get some rest. It has been a very, very long night. We are burning the midnight oil, but at least we're treated to a Chinese team making it through the bracket because I would have been disappointed if both of them fell today in this elimination lower bracket. Yeah, that would have been sad. But you know what? Extreme gaming, they do really well at DreamLeague's. And I'm glad that we're able to see them continue because this team is very fun to watch. and it feels like when they figure things out, they're probably like top three funnest teams in Georgia to watch, especially in the late game. All the games today were like really good. They were really exciting. I mean, I think that was actually the funnest series of the day though. That was the most back and forth that I enjoyed. And yeah, I'm looking forward to the extreme gaming moving forward because they looked really sus at the end of the group stage. Yeah, and the tiebreaker. Yeah, I'm like really enthusiastic. I feel revitalized watching them today, it seems like a completely different scene. They're gonna be revitalized. First thing in each other instead of Avery? I was just gonna say, have you ever heard of Drunken Raller technique? No. Like it's a kung fu technique where you're fighting as if you're drunk, to throw your opponent off guard. Oh. I think that embodies actually. Like they come in, they're just throwing some moves out there, you're like what the hell is happening, they're like 0 and 8, suddenly they squeak through and some of your tiebreaker, You're still not sure what's happening and bam you get hit by that boy in game, too Like oh shit this is gonna go insane. He goes oh and six now You don't even know what's going on and then first pick draw you forgot about it's like this weird chaotic given to I'm not even Meaning it's like this team was just over the place the booze are alone. Yeah It's really hard to shred this I think at some point liquid. We're just like what is that gonna do in game three Fuck if we know big doom. I mean that's what I felt like because I don't know where this doom came from It's really bizarre. I think he played it really well, but it felt just kind of like they just got sucked into the randomness and the chaos Of extreme gaming and they are extreme. It's in the name Are you actually drunk for Duncan Brawler? That's what I'm saying sometimes I think the blood alcohol level may be a bit too high for extreme gaming They may buy into their own drunkenness a little bit too much because this game Was millimetres away from us being like wow liquids done it again brilliant mastermind or William Blitzley First pick in the doom, genius counter pick to the Drowr Ranger, but history is not going this way, unfortunately today. Written by the winners now. That is correct. Drunk on victory. I think this winner is really impressive because Extreme Gaming tend to struggle versus Liquid, and they won the early game in all three games. So even though it looked like the drunken fist that Avery is talking about, I think it was actually much cleaner than it appeared from a third person perspective. Especially with how extreme gaming have lost some of their early games. That's my take I agree. They were impressive like this was a very solid series. I think is the series a lot of people are just gonna assume they lose I think liquid was playing a little below expectations Compared to like how they've been this year, and I think actually stepped up a little bit And that's why the series is so close. I definitely think both of those are required and yeah a little bit I think actually stepped up more than liquid stuff down like I think that was an bigger step Yeah. That was an impressive increase in performance. They leapt. They got a rise for the occasion. And as a result, yes indeed, they are moving further in a Dream League season 29 and also moving higher on the EFT leaderboards. What? And today is going to be a very exciting day because we get to show you a little bit more confirmations. As you should know, this is the final stop on the journey to the Esports World Cup. And all but two slots are already locked and loaded. So, if you're looking at this chart, you need to get into top 13 to get directly invited. OG fans are celebrating across the nation, across the globe, because OG is locked, based off of some of the other teams losing today, and other teams not being able to leapfrog past them. OG is locked, and Virtus.Pro is locked! What? That's right. If Quinn was here, he would tell us that Bulba is on his feet right now, because VP are now locked for EWC. I was probably sleeping, so that game went really late. That is perhaps true. He's gonna be on his feet tomorrow. Tomorrow, though. He opened up then replays. Good news to make up, too. Also, VG Gaming, you can see they also had a lock next to their name, because they went through the ESL Challenger qualifier to make it to the eSports World Cup, which now leaves two teams in the soup, Navi and Playtime. Two teams who have yet to play tomorrow are on the edge right now. They're cooking it up. They're in the pot right now. What's going to happen is that Navi only have to win that one series against Playtime tomorrow to lock their spot in. Playtime, However have to win that series and the series after that. Oh my god I know which will be against a bedroom team So they have to beat Navi and they have to be bedroom team The ultimate result will be playtime winning tomorrow and then losing the next series So it just none of it matters. I'll be heartbreaking. Okay Who wins out of that like who's the team that benefits from that happening? Navi will maintain the slot. Oh, okay. Yeah, okay. Hell. No my boys from South America. They're gonna do it You know they are. Hell. Yeah, I'm not gonna do it. You got to go 16 and oh game How dare you do that to them in the speak of the word. The in and o ember spirit. So no. Oh, they put the Teletubbies food on Largo. They put the Teletubbies food. They got the restaurant. You mean the Pikmin? I don't know. It's Poe. It's Poe. It's Poe. You know the color? I don't know. Yes, I know. What's the purple one called? Tinky Winky. Wow. You know your Teletubbies. What's the yellow one called? Lala. What's the blue one called? Dipsy. Wow. I thought I would trip you up for sure. Yeah, I thought you would. I might have mixed up blue and purple. What's the orange one called there's the one was the purple one couldn't even trigger Navi and playtime is a very very exciting series because it is going to determine the slot for EWC tune into that one After that we've got Falcons that taking on a party vision because we are returning back to the upper bracket Falcons were able to take down Tundra 2-0, party vision were able to take down Liquid, and now Liquid are gone. So who's gonna win out of that one? Final series of The Night is gonna be Spirit taking on Aurora. Hell yeah. Absolutely. That's my favorite right there. From top to bottom. All of them are going to be making their journey to Paris because, indeed, the Esports World Cup has now announced their location formally. That's right, it's happening in Paris. So, playtime in Na'Vi hoping to acquire visas to France, assuming that they make it, assuming that they qualify, and assuming that you guys believe in them, and I'm not talking about you at home, I'm talking about my panelists need to believe in them, because we have some Czech's predictions that we need to check in on. Oh boy, this is my day right here, Neil. Is it? Oh yeah, I don't actually remember. SVG chose Tundra, which is correct. He chose Vici Gaming, which was incorrect. I mean, that was... And he chose his boy, Ah-meh! Whoa! Wait, Neil, where's your ex? Your loss? Yes! Exactly! Which is why I'm, uh, I predicted Liquid, and only three extreme believers. Effie was not an extreme believer today. I really did not think that we'd be able to get it together. You know, I saw this fixed loss streak, and I thought that it was over for them, but my heart is thawing. Let me tell you, I've never been happier to lose a point here. I'm coming for you, Neil. You are and consistently Effie is one point away from Lacoste. Lacoste is narrowly maintaining the gap I'll get him tomorrow. You get him tomorrow. Okay. Well, which one are you gonna? So who's your Navi playtime? Well, I have to decide based on what he's doing after the opposite. I bet I did the opposite on the least one if gonna bridge the gap. Correct. You got to go for a Hail Mary Flare Play the odds play the odds Brian and I however go for the lowest possible score go for an eagle try to get a double bokeh I'll go a hole in one for the last game go a hole in one don't you worry you're doing well Neil in a way you're doing well I hope all of you are doing well because that is the end of our first round of lower brackets our playoffs are continuing a little bit more elimination tomorrow and then we're going back to the upper bracket Don't cry. Don't cry because it's over. Be happy because it happened. Yay! We'll see you tomorrow for more Dream League, season 29. What? Sometimes I'll say the wrong thing to you That makes you feel sad But one thing is true in all that we've been through You've never stopped loving me No matter what I do So let me say that every day I try to find the words from my heart to say thank you. Cause you take me as I am You take me as I am Oh baby If you'd stop loving me Well I would understand But I won't take you for granted, oh no, when you hold my hand Your love makes me feel that I could fly up to the moon Not even the birds of love can sing it, sweetheart you I need it to say that you'll find a way to make me feelin' new And I want to say thank you, cause you take me as I do Oh baby, take me as I do Take me and I Oh, take me Oh, take me Yeah, take me Take me and I No more eyes, see it rise I've got all the we could ever want So come with me, let's be the hemean No light inside, so will I On this high we'll never know Set you free, it's all here in my eyes One more step into this open ocean and never forget All that we're made of are foundations Going up, right away, in your light This is the end of it Now all I have is always to take It's going on Finally We are in This is the end of it Now all I have is always to take Now all I have is always to take The world is ours to take Memorize and open eyes on the future And everything that we could be Take my hand, take my hand now One more step into this open ocean And we'll not forget All that we made of our foundations For a man, not a man For you and me, this is our day Now all our lives are ours to take For a man, not a man For you and me, this is our day Now all our lives are ours to take The world is ours to take The world is ours to take The war is through and through It's over, no change Run for it For the sake The world is ours to take Dino moon, are you ready to blow? Explode, start the show, let's go, fill the crowd of paws, let them know We've been counting down the days Been riding through the days We'll take it to the grave Be the unstoppable I'm coming up, I'm coming up Unstoppable I'm coming up, I'm coming up We're going up slow I'm coming up, I'm coming up Unstoppable I'm coming up, I'm coming up I'll be the unstoppable Unstart the show Whoa, whoa, whoa Touch the blows Oh, blow, blow, blow Knocking on the main stage door Whoa, whoa, whoa There'll be a blast Feel the roar I'm coming up, I'm coming up Unstoppable I'm coming up, I'm coming up on a stomachful I'm letting jump, don't let it jump In more than 90 seconds I'm coming up, I'm coming up on a stomachful I I got you, come see me now Uh-uh, time's scared, so heavy Can't wait, play the way you breathe It's all, time's tellin' me I I need to know what I do There's just a word I need to know What are you doing? There's just a word Cause I'm back in the club Now And I can't do it now Just be alive I Just want to feel it now We love, I'm ready I've got the freedom But we're gonna let you stay with me I'm ready now I need to know What are you doing? This is the way I need to know What are you doing? It's just a matter of you Cause I'm not in this alone Now And I can't do it Now Just give me a life I Want to feel And I'll say you're coming To run Say you look, say you look You know I need to learn You know I need you now Why do you tell me there's something I need to know Why do you tell me there's something I need to know Cause I'm ready to go Now That I can't do Just give me a life I Just want to be that you know I'm scared you're coming to me I'm worried too late There's just one word to say What you say and what you know I need you to know I'm worried too late You're just a burden, you're the same You're going the right way Don't take it easy You're just a burden, you're the same You know I hate you now You're just a burden, you're the same You're just a burden, you're the same You know I need to know I've been waiting a long time, just walking for a plan from you. Yeah, a chance to look in those big brown eyes No telling what my heart would do, hey When we met, I sure knew It felt as good as it could be In that moment though it felt so good I wondered why you'd notice me, ooh Give me, give me just a little time Get what you need, my terrible mind Don't tell me, don't tell me That you don't feel the same inside Don't tell me, don't tell me who These are feelings that I ought to hide I don't care where you came from Just tell me where you want to go. If there's a chance to be together, that's all I really need to know. Is it real or maybe it's me that keeps me thinking of you? If you've got time to walk with me I'll show you how my heart is true And here I stand, waiting for you Tell me baby, what I gotta do Don't tell me, don't tell me That you don't feel the same inside Don't tell me, don't tell me, These are feelings that I'm on the high Don't tell me, don't tell me That you don't feel the same inside Don't tell me, don't tell me, These are feelings that I'm on the high Weren't so good for me in my mind all the time Though I'm not the turn to Now that I can see your love is set before You came along, gave me strength I've waited such a long time And I just can't believe this good Lord I hold on like a flame Don't want it to stop when you know you've got a good thing That makes me feel fine Ooh, wherever it leads me, you know it's all fine I never thought that this could sweep me off the ground I don't want it to stop when it's feeling as good Whenever you're around, my heart begins to pound Oh, I know you'll take it soon, no way to stop this feeling But every single day, whenever you're around In this place, there's a space where I'll be waiting for you And I just can't believe this new love I have for you Don't want it to stop when you know you've got a good thing That makes me feel fine Ooh, wherever it leads me, you know it's all right. I never thought that this could sweep me off the ground. Hey, I don't want it to stop. No, I don't want it to stop. Oh, I don't want it to stop when it's feeling good Feeling is good Feeling is good Feeling is good I I'm talking to a I'm talking to a I'm talking to a I thought I'd never make it I hear I am on top of the world They thought I'd never make it I hear I am on top of the world Here I am on top of the world Here I am on top of the world I'm on top of the world I'm so afraid of love I'm so afraid of love I'm so afraid of love I'm a sufferer I'm a sufferer I'm a sufferer I'm a sucker for love This is like the perfect day To catch the sun and dance away On my first ride by my side They're lighting up the darkest night Now they play our favorite song Everybody sing along The sunlight makes me smile My friends are dropping by Come on, come on, come on. More fun will break us right. And this is a good time, a good time to fight. Your music is good and all right. And all right. Oh, there's nothing more you like. You're falling in love with my eyes. I'm the nature of my best guy eyes. Like you're seeing in your eyes The sunlight makes me smile My friends are dropping by No one will break my stride It's just a good time I'm feeling fine The sunlight makes me smile My friends are driving by My mother will break my shrine It's the time, the time of your life When the dark makes me smile I You got to breathe in, let it out, bumping in the hometown, turning up and back to the beat, beat, beat, beat. One, two, three. Everybody's talking about the notion Turnin' them less than what the things it gives You got to breathe in Let I'm bookin' in the whole town You turn it up and rock to the beat, beat, beat, beat Take your toes in the water, we're out for the summer We're out for the summer Check your toes, get a lot of We're out for the summer Check your toes, get a lot of We're out for the summer We're out for the summer We got a little office on, gone fishing on the ground Look at what's here going, the best you've ever known Let's take them hours to get them in my head and head off Take your toes in the water, where I was for the sun I can't blame the stars, I'll smoke this dish You guys know I'm not the type That's not what you're thinking But I'm crazy, but you're wrong The fear has kept me caught just standing there Don't think I'm dreaming Cause I've been waiting for so long And all I've got is sugar through my mind There are some things that just feel so right If you know they can't be alone It's so easy love It's so easy love And I think you know it's so easy love Yeah, it's so easy love And you're all I've got, it's you, girl, through my brain There are some things that just feel so right You know they can't be wrong It's so easy, love It's so easy, love And I'm taking out It's so easy, love Yeah, it's so easy, love You and I got something together It's so hard to beat a feeling like this Yeah, the bush I get is on another level Going round my head when I'm with you Gonna set it off and watch it shine Come on, let's change that dream and put on light Gonna lose myself and dance all night We're living our last lives Our last lives You make me feel so alive Come on, come get it, baby You make me feel so high Yeah, yeah, baby, yeah I just wanna live it now It's never so hard to be I'm moving like this, yeah, but I get this on another level Going round and around, when I'm with you Gonna set it off and watch it shine Gonna chase that dream and put it on high Gonna lose myself and dance all night We're livin' off as mine Off as mine You make me feel so alive Come on now, yeah, let's keep it up You make me feel so alive Yeah, yeah, let's keep it up You make me feel so alive Come on now, yeah, let's keep it up You make me feel so alive You make me, you make me, you make me feel so good You make me, you make me, you make me feel so... 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