WEBVTT 00:30.000 --> 00:32.000 One, two, three. 02:30.000 --> 02:42.000 I've got the devil's blood under through my veins I am the force of God, I cry and change, change, change 02:43.000 --> 02:54.000 I've got the devil's blood under through my veins I am the force of God, I cry and change, change, change 03:54.000 --> 04:22.000 What you need is love and all to stand here 04:22.000 --> 04:34.000 Find a heart whose love is true, deep down there's only one companion who's there for you when you need him to be. 04:34.000 --> 04:42.000 Your heart was broken in a thousand pieces, so much pain that you can't prove. 04:42.000 --> 04:46.000 Is there's a man who's your salvation? 04:46.000 --> 04:52.000 Just ask yourself, am I ready for you? 04:52.000 --> 04:55.000 100% 04:55.000 --> 04:57.000 I'm ready, I'm ready 04:57.000 --> 04:59.000 100% 04:59.000 --> 05:01.000 Yes, I'm ready 05:01.000 --> 05:03.000 That's why I'm ready 05:03.000 --> 05:05.000 I'm ready, I'm ready 05:05.000 --> 05:08.000 100% 05:08.000 --> 05:14.000 Take a chance in a new direction 05:14.000 --> 05:18.000 Any place you wanna go 05:18.000 --> 05:22.000 I'm gonna have all the right answers 05:22.000 --> 05:24.000 But one thing I know 05:24.000 --> 05:26.000 I'm so ready for you 05:26.000 --> 05:28.000 I'm ready to say 05:28.000 --> 05:31.000 I'm ready to say 05:31.000 --> 05:34.000 No, I'm ready 05:34.000 --> 05:37.000 I'm ready 05:37.000 --> 05:40.000 I'm ready, I'm ready to move well 06:07.000 --> 06:23.900 One hundred percent, now, are ready One hundred percent, oh, yes I mean it 06:23.900 --> 06:33.500 One hundred percent now, oh, oh, oh One hundred percent, one hundred percent, yeah 06:37.000 --> 07:06.000 I've been waiting a long time, just longing for a plan from you. 07:06.000 --> 07:13.000 From you, a chance to look in those big brown eyes 07:13.000 --> 07:18.000 No telling what my heart would do, baby 07:18.000 --> 07:22.000 When we met, I sure knew 07:22.000 --> 07:27.000 It felt as good as it could be 07:27.000 --> 07:31.000 In that moment though it felt so good 07:31.000 --> 07:34.000 I wonder why you know this beat 07:34.000 --> 07:40.000 Ooh, if you gave me just a little time 07:40.000 --> 07:44.000 Can't put your, ease my troubled mind 07:44.000 --> 07:48.000 Don't tell me, don't tell me 07:48.000 --> 07:53.000 That you don't feel the same inside 07:53.000 --> 07:57.000 Don't tell me, don't tell me 07:57.000 --> 08:01.000 These are pillars that are all the high 08:03.000 --> 08:06.000 I don't care where you came from 08:06.000 --> 08:10.000 Just tell me where you wanna go 08:11.000 --> 08:15.000 If there's a chance to be together 08:15.000 --> 08:19.000 That's all I really need to know 08:21.000 --> 08:24.000 Is it real or maybe it's me 08:24.000 --> 08:28.000 That beats me thinking of you 08:29.000 --> 08:33.000 If you've got time to walk with me 08:33.000 --> 08:38.000 I'll show you how my heart is true 08:38.000 --> 08:43.000 And here I stand waiting for you 08:43.000 --> 08:47.000 Tell me baby, what I gotta do 08:47.000 --> 08:51.000 Don't tell me, don't tell me 08:51.000 --> 08:55.000 That you don't feel the same inside 08:55.000 --> 09:00.000 Don't tell me, don't tell me who 09:00.000 --> 09:04.000 These are feelings that I ought to hide 09:04.000 --> 09:09.000 Don't tell me, don't tell me 09:09.000 --> 09:13.000 That you don't feel the same inside 09:13.000 --> 09:18.000 Don't tell me, don't tell me who 09:18.000 --> 09:22.000 He's up here instead of on the ground 14:18.000 --> 14:20.000 I 15:18.000 --> 15:20.000 I'm gonna go back to you 15:20.000 --> 15:22.000 I'm gonna go back to you 15:26.000 --> 15:28.000 Strong to win 15:28.000 --> 15:30.000 Go big America 15:30.000 --> 15:32.000 You got the whole world 15:32.000 --> 15:34.000 You know that it's physical 15:34.000 --> 15:36.000 Love that drives us wild 15:36.000 --> 15:38.000 So put it in the bus right now 15:38.000 --> 15:40.000 Cause in the moment that you close 15:40.000 --> 15:42.000 And I could look control 15:44.000 --> 15:46.000 Baby, it's a crazy love 16:46.000 --> 16:48.000 I 17:16.000 --> 17:24.000 Then, riding through the earth, we'll take it to the grave, be the unstoppable 17:24.000 --> 17:28.000 I'm coming up, I'm coming up, unstoppable 17:29.000 --> 17:34.000 Don't let it drop, don't let it drop, we're going on slow 17:35.000 --> 17:39.000 I'm coming up, I'm coming up, unstoppable 17:40.000 --> 17:45.000 Don't let it drop, don't let it drop, be the unstoppable 17:45.000 --> 17:47.000 Start the show 17:50.500 --> 17:52.500 Drops the blows 17:54.000 --> 17:55.000 The whole ball 17:55.000 --> 17:57.500 Knocking on the main stage door 18:01.000 --> 18:03.000 He'll be a boss 18:03.000 --> 18:06.000 Be a bro 18:07.000 --> 18:08.000 I'm coming up 18:08.000 --> 18:09.000 I'm coming up 18:09.000 --> 18:11.000 I'm starting the war 18:12.000 --> 18:13.000 I'm coming up 18:13.000 --> 18:14.000 Don't let me down 18:14.000 --> 18:17.000 That we're born on store 18:17.000 --> 18:19.000 I'm coming up, I'm coming up 18:19.000 --> 18:22.000 I'm still on the road 18:22.000 --> 18:25.000 Yeah, you've got to, you've got to 18:25.000 --> 18:28.000 Keep me unstoppable 18:28.000 --> 18:33.000 Side-crossed life 18:33.000 --> 18:36.000 Side-by-side 18:36.000 --> 18:43.000 We'll do this one more time 18:43.000 --> 18:49.000 What was I? 18:52.000 --> 18:56.000 I'm coming up, I'm coming up unstoppable 18:57.000 --> 18:59.000 Don't let it drop, don't let it drop 18:59.000 --> 19:02.000 When nobody's near 19:02.000 --> 19:06.000 I'm coming up, I'm coming up unstoppable 19:08.000 --> 19:10.000 Don't let it drop, don't let it drop 19:10.000 --> 19:13.200 Yeah, leave me on the floor, I'm still the boss 19:21.200 --> 19:24.000 I can't leave the world 19:29.600 --> 19:33.200 I'm just gonna let it go 19:33.600 --> 19:35.200 I'm still the boss 19:40.000 --> 20:09.000 Sometimes I'm foolish, sometimes I know I get mad, 20:09.000 --> 20:13.000 Sometimes I'll say the wrong thing to you 20:13.000 --> 20:17.000 That makes you feel sad 20:17.000 --> 20:20.000 But one thing is true 20:20.000 --> 20:25.000 In all that we've been through 20:25.000 --> 20:28.000 You've never stopped loving me 20:28.000 --> 20:33.000 No matter what I do 20:33.000 --> 20:37.000 So let me say 20:37.000 --> 20:46.000 That every day I try to find the words from my heart to say thank you 20:47.000 --> 20:50.000 Cause you take me as I am 20:55.000 --> 20:58.000 You take me as I am 21:00.000 --> 21:02.000 Oh baby 21:02.000 --> 21:12.000 If you stop loving me, well, I would understand. 21:12.000 --> 21:18.000 But I won't take it for granted, no, no. 21:18.000 --> 21:28.000 When you hold my hand, your love makes me feel that I could fly to the moon. 21:28.000 --> 21:36.000 Not even the birds of dark can say it, sweetheart you 21:36.000 --> 21:47.000 I needed to say that you find a way to make me feel new 21:47.000 --> 21:54.000 And I want to say thank you, cause you take me as I do 21:54.000 --> 22:23.000 Oh, baby, take me as I am, oh, take me, oh, take me, oh, take me, yeah, take me, take me, 22:23.000 --> 22:27.000 Take me, and I'll go 22:40.000 --> 22:44.000 Why they don't leave this place? 22:45.000 --> 22:47.000 I have to know 22:48.000 --> 22:52.000 Why they don't leave this place? 22:53.000 --> 23:09.000 My life's a big city, sunshine's my time, I'm ready, I got you, come see me now, uh, uh, 23:09.000 --> 23:18.000 I can't escape, so heavy Can't wait, baby, where you be? 23:18.000 --> 23:26.000 It's all because of me, I need to know 23:26.000 --> 23:31.000 What is the way this is so heavy? 23:31.000 --> 23:34.000 I need to know 23:34.000 --> 23:38.000 What are you doing this way? 23:40.000 --> 23:42.000 Cause I'm at your door 23:43.000 --> 23:44.000 Now 23:45.000 --> 23:47.000 And I can't do that 23:48.000 --> 23:50.000 Just leave me alone 23:51.000 --> 23:52.000 I 23:53.000 --> 23:55.000 Want to leave it now 23:57.000 --> 23:59.000 We love each other 23:59.000 --> 24:01.000 I'm ready 24:01.000 --> 24:03.000 I've got the dream 24:03.000 --> 24:06.840 No, we're gonna let it stay with you 24:06.840 --> 24:09.000 I'm ready now 24:11.000 --> 24:13.000 I need to know 24:13.000 --> 24:15.000 What are you talking about? 24:15.000 --> 24:17.000 There's so much 24:17.000 --> 24:21.000 I, I, I need to know 24:21.000 --> 24:23.000 What are you talking about? 24:23.000 --> 24:25.000 There's so much 24:27.000 --> 24:29.000 Cause I'm ready to move 24:29.000 --> 24:31.000 Now 24:31.000 --> 24:34.000 And I can't do it now 24:34.000 --> 24:37.000 Just do your thing 24:37.000 --> 24:41.000 I want to feed it now 24:41.000 --> 24:47.000 Say you're coming from 24:47.000 --> 24:49.000 Say you look, say you look 24:49.000 --> 24:55.000 You know I need you now 24:55.000 --> 24:59.000 You know, you know I need you now 24:59.000 --> 25:03.000 What are you doing this summer? 25:04.000 --> 25:06.000 I, I, I don't know 25:07.000 --> 25:11.000 What are you doing this summer? 25:13.000 --> 25:15.000 Cause the night is over 25:16.000 --> 25:19.000 Now, that I had to 25:20.000 --> 25:22.000 Just be alive 25:23.000 --> 25:24.000 I 25:25.000 --> 25:28.000 Want to feel you now 25:58.000 --> 26:00.920 You're the one with all I need to cross 26:20.920 --> 26:23.920 No horizon, seed rise 26:23.920 --> 26:26.920 Had we got all the we could ever want 26:26.920 --> 26:30.920 So come with me, let's be the hand in hand 26:33.920 --> 26:38.920 Little light inside, so alive on this highway 26:38.920 --> 26:43.920 Living on such a free, it's all here in us 26:46.920 --> 26:51.920 One more step into this open ocean 26:51.920 --> 26:54.920 And none of the further again 26:54.920 --> 27:00.920 All that remains are foundations 27:00.920 --> 27:03.920 Throwin' up, runnin' away 27:03.920 --> 27:06.920 The only way is to stay awake 27:06.920 --> 27:10.920 Now the world is ours to take 27:13.920 --> 27:16.920 Throwin' up, runnin' away 27:16.920 --> 27:19.920 The only way is to stay awake 27:19.920 --> 27:23.920 Now the world is ours to take 27:24.920 --> 27:40.920 The world of desires is a game The world of desires is a game 27:40.920 --> 27:47.920 New eyes, open eyes The future and everything that we could be 27:47.920 --> 27:52.920 My hand, so take my hand now 27:53.920 --> 27:59.920 One more step in through this open ocean 27:59.920 --> 28:01.920 And we'll never forget 28:02.920 --> 28:07.920 All that we're made of are foundations 28:07.920 --> 28:10.920 So I am proud of you 28:10.920 --> 28:13.920 For you are looking at me so excited 28:43.920 --> 28:46.920 The world decides to stay 28:46.920 --> 28:51.920 The world stands and gives up the notion 28:51.920 --> 28:54.920 That it's all a game 28:54.920 --> 28:56.920 Over the grave 28:56.920 --> 28:59.920 The world decides to stay 29:43.920 --> 30:04.920 Dream League Season 29 is brought to you by DHL and Chex. 30:04.920 --> 30:15.200 Let's get the engine started and let's do a little bit of cleanup. 30:15.200 --> 30:19.880 We've been eliminating quite a few of the teams here, getting rid of all the garbage 30:19.880 --> 30:25.120 and now only the best of the best remain here at Dream League Season 29. 30:25.120 --> 30:29.160 Two days of the tournament remain and we still got to finish things off. 30:29.160 --> 30:32.160 Get into it with the Podchamp Pandas. 30:46.960 --> 30:51.560 Quit fooling around, Lacoste, let the robot do its work. 30:51.560 --> 30:57.360 We have an impeccable turf upon which we have been able to celebrate 30:57.360 --> 31:03.600 So much of a dream league season 29 and now it's down to the final two days of the tournament 31:03.840 --> 31:06.980 What a journey it's been lacrosse. It's been awesome Neil 31:06.980 --> 31:13.960 I gotta say some awesome Dota the most probably the most 60 plus minutes games that we've seen so far in the tournament 31:14.520 --> 31:19.400 But very exciting ones though a lot of back-and-forth especially when extreme gaming play 31:20.000 --> 31:25.720 Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be seeing that again. Don't clean. Don't don't weed like this beard. He's not protected though 31:25.720 --> 31:27.120 Yes, he's shielded. 31:27.120 --> 31:28.120 I'm doing some QA. 31:29.120 --> 31:30.120 You did a pass? 31:30.920 --> 31:31.520 Yeah! 31:31.520 --> 31:32.120 Alright then. 31:32.120 --> 31:33.120 He's Aigre in time. 31:33.120 --> 31:34.520 The quality has been assured then. 31:34.520 --> 31:35.720 It hasn't. 31:35.720 --> 31:37.520 My face is hard as steel. 31:38.320 --> 31:39.520 Does the mic sound weird? 31:39.520 --> 31:41.320 And not only your face. 31:41.320 --> 31:42.520 Ooh. 31:42.520 --> 31:43.920 Your posture as well. 31:43.920 --> 31:45.120 That's right. 31:45.120 --> 31:47.120 He's been battle hardened. 31:47.120 --> 31:49.520 By all the sheer minutes of Dota. 31:49.520 --> 31:52.320 And if you're curious what Lacosta's referring to, 31:52.320 --> 31:55.520 I've got a little bit of a recap of what happened yesterday 31:55.520 --> 32:01.220 And if we even just did like a percentage of the game time, it's probably like a 30-minute highlight reel. 32:01.220 --> 32:06.020 A lot of long games yesterday. This was the first series of the day, Avery. 32:06.020 --> 32:11.020 We had a little bit of Xtrema versus the Tundra, which had Tundra getting the upper hand. 32:11.020 --> 32:19.020 This was an interesting one. We got some early Necrophos that would then elude some later Necrophos that would be later on. 32:19.020 --> 32:20.020 Chekhov's Necrow. 32:20.020 --> 32:23.520 Exactly. I was very sad that Xtrema lost this, so... 32:23.520 --> 32:26.920 I feel like they could have gone farther in this event. 32:26.920 --> 32:31.920 They showed some promise, but ultimately it fell short once again. 32:31.920 --> 32:36.920 Yeah, this is actually one of the lowest showings that extreme gaming have had in the ESL event. 32:36.920 --> 32:42.920 They've been up and down on the blockies and blasts, but ESL events have been getting at least consistently top four, 32:42.920 --> 32:46.920 but Gareth, it seems like they hit their ceiling against Tundra. 32:46.920 --> 32:48.920 Yeah, you can kind of feel they were growing through the tournament. 32:48.920 --> 32:52.920 I wasn't particularly impressed with the group stage or early playoffs, 32:52.920 --> 32:58.020 But you could see that they were getting together and starting to play on the same page towards the tail end of this 32:58.020 --> 33:00.020 It just wasn't enough for New Yorkers to do my time. 33:00.020 --> 33:09.020 It's that inconsistency that I like to see in the games. Imagine being like watching, I don't know, Falcons dominate everybody, liquids, gaming gladiators 33:09.020 --> 33:15.820 It's not fun. This is what you want to see, you know, a little bit of throw every 10 to 15 minutes. This is peak Dota, peak cinema 33:15.820 --> 33:21.780 I think one team to be at least somewhat consistent though because I'll agree that it's fun to see that over the past two years of 33:21.780 --> 33:25.620 competitive Dota pretty much any team can win a championship as opposed to the full 33:25.620 --> 33:31.700 years of consistency from previous seasons but still I still am very 33:31.700 --> 33:36.940 apprehensive moving to a Shanghai TI if the Chinese representation of teams 33:36.940 --> 33:42.540 will be competitive. You take that statement back how dare I who are you to 33:42.540 --> 33:50.100 judge Chinese Dota? The results that's how I'm judging it. Meanwhile though South 33:50.100 --> 33:56.240 North American Dota made a little bit of a resurgence as this was the series between 33:56.240 --> 34:00.940 the playtime and bedroom that determined our final slot at the E-Force World Cup. 34:00.940 --> 34:03.900 They played like EWC and White was on the line. 34:03.900 --> 34:06.380 They pretty much gave everything. 34:06.380 --> 34:11.740 Game one, it wasn't as competitive, but they managed to make some nice comeback. 34:11.740 --> 34:16.500 And again, with their Necro, I don't know, are these professional E-gamers stupid? 34:16.500 --> 34:17.500 What is going on? 34:17.500 --> 34:19.260 Like, why are you not banning his hero? 34:19.260 --> 34:23.760 You probably watch Replace, there's one guy that is standing out that says Necro and then 34:23.760 --> 34:26.560 you're like, yeah, but Oracle, it fails short. 34:26.560 --> 34:30.200 Every single time he was jumped by a Batrider, unable to use Ulti and then Huskar, he got 34:30.200 --> 34:31.400 sighted every single time. 34:31.400 --> 34:36.280 It's like we have Oracle, Rubik, Huskar, Underlord, they're not going to pick Necro, it's fine. 34:36.280 --> 34:38.320 Witz comes out and says, I'm delicious, okay. 34:38.320 --> 34:44.520 I'm not afraid, nor should he have been, as he did indeed, win this series in the end. 34:44.520 --> 34:49.120 Although I don't know, Witz has been dominating most of the conversation for Group Stage and 34:49.120 --> 34:53.600 playoffs, but I feel like Dark Mago and Elmysho, they got their flowers in this series. 34:53.600 --> 34:55.600 I feel like Scofield got it in that game three. 34:55.600 --> 34:57.480 Yeah, but he had it on-dying. 34:57.480 --> 34:58.480 He popped off earlier. 34:58.480 --> 34:59.480 Yeah, he's... 34:59.480 --> 35:02.200 That is one of the most polarizing players of all time, I think. 35:02.200 --> 35:05.760 Like, if I were building a team, would you want Scofield on your team? 35:05.760 --> 35:07.240 Depends what time of the year it is. 35:07.240 --> 35:08.240 Okay, that's fair. 35:08.240 --> 35:09.240 I don't think it's... 35:09.240 --> 35:12.960 He's even consistent in the year, depending on the day of the week, but I don't know, 35:12.960 --> 35:17.080 seeing him on camera, doing the interview with him as well, he looks happy. 35:17.080 --> 35:23.680 The first time Sting's go filled actually happy and this was him bit being with the shirt on he wasn't even sure 35:24.000 --> 35:28.160 He was wearing a capybara shirt that said don't worry and I'm never worried 35:28.600 --> 35:32.700 Although tundra's were a little bit worried in the final series of the day 35:32.860 --> 35:39.800 They already played against extreme in the morning and then they had to play up against Aurora as the final series of the night 35:39.800 --> 35:42.440 And this was one of our rare 2-0s 35:42.440 --> 35:49.120 I mean, this was such a wild game as well, where it didn't feel like the same, you know, 35:49.120 --> 35:52.480 algorithmic goat do we see, where there's a script of government tier one to tier one 35:52.480 --> 35:55.760 at this time, item timings, looking for Roshan, and at 25. 35:55.760 --> 35:56.760 You can't say that, dude. 35:56.760 --> 35:57.880 You can't say scripted. 35:57.880 --> 36:01.640 You can't absolutely do it when you're talking about Tundra and Falcons and these guys. 36:01.640 --> 36:05.360 They play as if they've got a script in front of them, they follow A to B to see, paint my 36:05.360 --> 36:06.360 colors a little bit. 36:06.360 --> 36:10.160 Tundra just pared it all down and ran at them. 36:10.160 --> 36:13.760 It was absolutely, like, feral, like real feral dough, and I guess after... 36:13.760 --> 36:14.760 I mean, Lycan. 36:14.760 --> 36:15.760 Yeah. 36:15.760 --> 36:16.760 Of course it was feral. 36:16.760 --> 36:19.120 Five hours of dough early on in the day, you kinda get your backs put up against the wall, 36:19.120 --> 36:22.240 okay, we're gonna do something different in game three. 36:22.240 --> 36:26.680 Well Tundra unfortunately got eliminated at the conclusion of their Aurora series, which 36:26.680 --> 36:29.600 means that only five teams remain. 36:29.600 --> 36:33.400 In the upper bracket it is ParryVision and Team Spirit. 36:33.400 --> 36:38.600 Lower bracket it is Falcons, Aurora, and Playtime, as the final contenders in a Dream 36:38.600 --> 36:43.120 League season 29. Avery, who's gonna be in the Grand Finals, you think? 36:43.120 --> 36:47.840 Probably Spirit Parry, honestly. Again? Yeah, I think you're gonna get the rematch. 36:47.840 --> 36:52.580 That's the least exciting outcome. Where's the lower bracket Cinderella run? 36:52.580 --> 37:00.280 No. No? Not facing playtime? No. No one does. I enjoy watching them. I hope they make it. 37:00.280 --> 37:04.920 That'd be kind of hype. But I do, I feel like their gameplay is a little capped. 37:04.920 --> 37:07.560 I have not seen it completely unleashed. 37:07.560 --> 37:13.360 Yeah, and perhaps their chief motivation of I need to get the points for EWC has now 37:13.360 --> 37:19.520 diminished and now they're just playing for the glory because this was the final spot on 37:19.520 --> 37:24.760 the journey to the Esports World Cup and now technically all the points have not been awarded 37:24.760 --> 37:29.200 yet but any points that are remaining are just for glory of being at the top of the 37:29.200 --> 37:35.160 leaderboard because all of the 14 teams that you see highlighted are the ones that will 37:35.160 --> 37:43.680 be directly invited to Paris later on this year and it's going to be a nice variety of 37:43.680 --> 37:46.000 representation from different regions. 37:46.000 --> 37:50.560 You know, Virtus.Pro, we got a North American team in there, so that's encouraging. 37:50.560 --> 37:52.320 How are they North American team? 37:52.320 --> 37:53.320 You tell me. 37:53.320 --> 37:54.320 They chop a fly rebellious. 37:54.320 --> 37:56.320 I don't know. 37:56.320 --> 37:57.320 Oh? 37:57.320 --> 38:01.800 SDS or SDA mid-player, South American carry. 38:01.800 --> 38:04.280 There's nothing more American than a melting pot like that of culture. 38:04.280 --> 38:05.320 European supports. 38:05.320 --> 38:07.240 Bulbasin shot, son. 38:07.240 --> 38:09.400 I mean, that's the North American team. 38:09.400 --> 38:10.400 South Asian heritage. 38:10.400 --> 38:11.400 European all-players. 38:11.400 --> 38:14.720 This is not one any actual player on it. 38:14.720 --> 38:15.720 I don't like their name. 38:15.720 --> 38:16.720 Why is Canadian? 38:16.720 --> 38:17.720 I disowned them. 38:17.720 --> 38:18.720 I decreed. 38:18.720 --> 38:19.720 How dare you? 38:19.720 --> 38:20.720 Wow. 38:20.720 --> 38:21.720 Who do we have then? 38:21.720 --> 38:22.720 Game religion. 38:22.720 --> 38:23.720 They didn't make it. 38:23.720 --> 38:24.720 I know that. 38:24.720 --> 38:25.720 We have a lot of qualifiers. 38:25.720 --> 38:26.720 They have qualifiers. 38:26.720 --> 38:32.520 make it and he's basically they'll make it deal they're basically qualified 38:32.520 --> 38:41.080 already for Navi to be honest they had it they had the faith in their hands 38:41.080 --> 38:47.320 because they played against playtime in that lower bracket round one but better 38:47.320 --> 38:50.800 get the duff they kind of choked in the classic Navi fashion do a choking 38:50.800 --> 38:58.600 impression. This is the universal choking symbol. I need the highly maneuvered ASAP. 38:58.600 --> 39:05.560 Yeah, I'll see this icon. Their fate was in their hands, Lacoste. They had an opportunity 39:05.560 --> 39:10.080 specifically against the people who were going to dethrone them in that leaderboard and they 39:10.080 --> 39:15.160 came up short. What can you do? What can you do? Having to sit at home and watch Bat Booms. 39:15.160 --> 39:17.160 Please man, please, please, back to me. 39:17.160 --> 39:19.560 TPK's going, what, like one and seven on Husky? 39:19.560 --> 39:22.260 Like, oh my god, no. 39:22.260 --> 39:23.760 Everything slows down. 39:23.760 --> 39:27.260 Cato, please stop getting lassoed every single time. 39:27.260 --> 39:28.860 Why is my Husky being re-puss-fied? 39:28.860 --> 39:30.760 Then there's no false promise. 39:30.760 --> 39:33.560 It hurts, but at least they still have the opportunity 39:33.560 --> 39:37.160 to qualify us, and while all of the points are indeed 39:37.160 --> 39:38.760 in the process of being distributed, 39:38.760 --> 39:41.260 there's still some cash money on the line 39:41.260 --> 39:49.060 for this tournament, specifically for the teams that make it into the top three, the 39:49.060 --> 39:53.980 money goes up quite rapidly, not just for you, but for your org as well. 39:53.980 --> 39:54.980 That's too much money, Neil. 39:54.980 --> 39:55.980 Too much money? 39:55.980 --> 39:57.980 That's what people have been saying. 39:57.980 --> 39:58.980 That is true. 39:58.980 --> 40:00.300 That's too much money. 40:00.300 --> 40:04.540 Now, I'm curious, Neil, we see a prize money, we see a club reward. 40:04.540 --> 40:08.260 Now where is the talent reward portion of this chart? 40:08.260 --> 40:09.260 For what? 40:09.260 --> 40:10.260 For what? 40:10.260 --> 40:14.180 Are you not aware, whoever wins the prediction for talent gets 10k? 40:14.180 --> 40:14.680 What? 40:14.680 --> 40:15.180 Yeah. 40:15.180 --> 40:17.180 That's how I was trying so hard. 40:18.180 --> 40:19.180 No. 40:19.180 --> 40:21.180 10k at the end of the day. 40:21.180 --> 40:23.680 I woke up late four days and didn't do prediction. 40:23.680 --> 40:25.680 I think that was a cold thing. 40:25.680 --> 40:31.080 I think there should be a talent cut because I come in here every day and I give my best 40:31.080 --> 40:33.680 performance in supporting Aube. 40:35.180 --> 40:35.980 This is good for Aube. 40:35.980 --> 40:39.220 I don't think they would have made it as far if they didn't have the spirit I was imbuing 40:39.220 --> 40:42.060 into their games has a very high caster. 40:42.060 --> 40:44.060 5%? 40:44.060 --> 40:45.660 I'll settle for 10. 40:45.660 --> 40:46.500 What's 10% of nothing? 40:46.500 --> 40:48.380 Best we can do is 12.5. 40:48.380 --> 40:49.740 I'll take it. 40:49.740 --> 40:50.620 Not going to argue. 40:50.620 --> 40:51.420 Only in your own. 40:51.420 --> 40:52.260 Terrible negotiation. 40:52.260 --> 40:53.460 What are you, one of the pawnstones? 40:53.460 --> 40:55.140 Well, I might be. 40:55.140 --> 40:57.700 I might be on the same cut next time. 40:57.700 --> 40:59.260 So I'm trying to raise it there. 40:59.260 --> 41:00.140 This is the strat. 41:00.140 --> 41:01.860 Shake on it. 41:01.860 --> 41:05.940 Oh, it is the field. 41:05.940 --> 41:07.500 We scratch that leg. 41:07.500 --> 41:08.860 The long arm of the deal. 41:08.860 --> 41:10.860 Oh, that actually feels good. 41:10.860 --> 41:15.860 I don't want to be in the- I don't want to- I don't want to be in the sandwich anymore. 41:15.860 --> 41:17.860 Ah! 41:17.860 --> 41:18.860 No, no, no. 41:18.860 --> 41:20.860 Oh, gosh, I just get involved. 41:20.860 --> 41:21.860 Join in. 41:21.860 --> 41:24.860 Gary, what are you doing, Gary? 41:24.860 --> 41:28.860 That's not certain distance to sexual. 41:28.860 --> 41:30.860 That's not really weird. 41:30.860 --> 41:32.860 What's up? 41:32.860 --> 41:33.860 What do we have? 41:33.860 --> 41:35.860 I'll tell you exactly what we have. 41:35.860 --> 41:40.300 That sound means that we have a little bit of a task to complete. 41:40.300 --> 41:44.860 We've been doing some of the fishing here every single day of Dream League season 29. 41:44.860 --> 41:45.360 Yes! 41:45.360 --> 41:52.260 In order to find a task for the day, the thing is that all the talent here have already done the fishing. 41:52.260 --> 41:53.160 And who won, Neil? 41:53.160 --> 41:54.360 Can I redo mine? 41:54.360 --> 41:54.860 Who won? 41:54.860 --> 41:57.060 I think we should let Gary redo things. 41:57.060 --> 41:58.960 Things are not finalized yet, Avery. 41:58.960 --> 42:03.960 We don't know if you've won yet because Bob is about to do some failings. 42:03.960 --> 42:06.040 Let's get the panda down here. 42:06.040 --> 42:06.840 That's illegal. 42:06.840 --> 42:07.840 That's illegal. 42:07.840 --> 42:10.040 He's not able to compete. 42:10.040 --> 42:11.360 He's getting the competition. 42:11.360 --> 42:13.440 From extreme gaining, 5%. 42:13.440 --> 42:15.560 Bob is getting an opportunity to hit 42:15.560 --> 42:17.120 on the half of the pandas. 42:17.120 --> 42:19.880 Because this is a full collaborative effort. 42:19.880 --> 42:21.440 Don't exclude them. 42:21.440 --> 42:22.240 What? 42:22.240 --> 42:23.320 What are you so mad about? 42:23.320 --> 42:24.640 He made the well. 42:24.640 --> 42:26.240 It's insider trading, man. 42:29.240 --> 42:30.320 He's shrugging. 42:30.320 --> 42:32.680 You'll kill it, though. 42:32.680 --> 42:33.880 He has his fishing hat on. 42:33.880 --> 42:34.760 Fishing buff? 42:34.760 --> 42:38.720 These are fully equipped to be able to fish it up. 42:38.720 --> 42:43.560 And we are going to see what he's capable of. 42:43.560 --> 42:45.560 Now, the rules are simple. 42:45.560 --> 42:46.960 That may be a little bit difficult, 42:46.960 --> 42:50.080 but Bob, surely you've seen around here. 42:50.080 --> 42:51.880 We've got the fishing rod, and we've 42:51.880 --> 42:55.040 got a piece of string attached, and a little bit of a hook 42:55.040 --> 42:55.920 on the end. 42:55.920 --> 43:00.120 Inside the well, there is an envelope with another hook. 43:00.120 --> 43:01.560 And yeah, there it is. 43:01.560 --> 43:02.800 So are you ready? 43:02.800 --> 43:03.800 I guess. 43:03.800 --> 43:04.800 You guess. 43:04.800 --> 43:05.800 I was not prepared for this. 43:05.800 --> 43:06.800 Okay. 43:06.800 --> 43:10.320 So whenever the rope enters the well, that's when the time starts. 43:10.320 --> 43:11.720 Time to beat is 12 seconds. 43:11.720 --> 43:12.720 12 seconds. 43:12.720 --> 43:13.720 12 seconds my friend. 43:13.720 --> 43:14.720 Are you ready? 43:14.720 --> 43:15.720 I got this. 43:15.720 --> 43:16.720 He's got this. 43:16.720 --> 43:17.720 I got this. 43:17.720 --> 43:18.720 Let's go. 43:18.720 --> 43:19.720 Overconfidence. 43:19.720 --> 43:20.720 Overconfidence is the name of the game. 43:20.720 --> 43:21.720 He's in. 43:21.720 --> 43:22.720 He's reeling. 43:22.720 --> 43:23.720 Come on Bob. 43:23.720 --> 43:24.720 He has knocked it over. 43:24.720 --> 43:25.720 That's a discouraging step. 43:25.720 --> 43:26.720 But it's spinning. 43:26.720 --> 43:28.720 At least it's currently interfering right now. 43:28.720 --> 43:29.720 And he's got it. 43:29.720 --> 43:30.720 Oh! 43:30.720 --> 43:32.720 I would take 11.5 43:35.720 --> 43:37.720 Amazing what a performance 43:38.720 --> 43:40.720 What a rush 43:44.720 --> 43:49.880 Okay, they always do this to me. Why do I even try these competitions? 43:50.720 --> 43:57.120 Bob coming down and bring us the path for the day, although I have a sneaking suspicion. I may already know what it is 43:57.120 --> 44:00.120 What'd you give it to Avery, actually? 44:00.120 --> 44:03.120 He's not gonna read it. He's cute-fist right now. 44:03.120 --> 44:05.120 A little congratulations, Bob. 44:05.120 --> 44:06.120 A sweet little kiss. 44:06.120 --> 44:07.120 Hello, Bob. 44:07.120 --> 44:08.120 You're real happy for you, Bob. 44:08.120 --> 44:09.120 Young Robert. 44:09.120 --> 44:12.120 Another stellar push. 44:12.120 --> 44:14.120 Look at that. What is that? 44:14.120 --> 44:16.120 That shit. Gary, show it to the camera. 44:16.120 --> 44:18.120 What it looked like when you were fishing. 44:18.120 --> 44:20.120 Okay, I don't know if it's not physically possible. 44:20.120 --> 44:22.120 This was competition standard. 44:22.120 --> 44:24.120 It was a flat line. I mean, that's how it looked for me. 44:24.120 --> 44:24.960 For me. 44:26.620 --> 44:27.460 Whatever, we'll move on. 44:27.460 --> 44:28.300 There was no hook. 44:28.300 --> 44:29.140 I'm over it. 44:29.140 --> 44:30.460 Not even kidding. 44:30.460 --> 44:32.360 Let's raise the visor here. 44:32.360 --> 44:33.500 It's fine. 44:33.500 --> 44:34.940 I'm part of this victory. 44:34.940 --> 44:35.940 That's right. 44:35.940 --> 44:37.540 You get participation trophy. 44:37.540 --> 44:38.780 That's what matters. 44:38.780 --> 44:39.620 We all win. 44:40.740 --> 44:42.060 What you got, Avery? 44:42.060 --> 44:43.340 I'll let you read it, Neil. 44:43.340 --> 44:45.700 Decorate your cake pops. 44:45.700 --> 44:48.000 But what cake pops, you may ask. 44:48.000 --> 44:49.380 Why, of course, the cake pops 44:49.380 --> 44:53.660 that we've been making all of our previous day. 44:53.660 --> 45:02.820 Yesterday first shift had the honor of creating some dough and I think and then our shift or rolled them up into balls and 45:03.460 --> 45:06.740 We got we got who do we have here? 45:06.740 --> 45:12.240 I don't know. It is tundra pure with us. They got eliminated if you can zoom in 45:13.280 --> 45:18.420 That is right there still in the tournament. Yeah, 190. I don't know what night one night 45:18.420 --> 45:22.420 That's the GPM in the last game. 45:22.420 --> 45:27.420 Alright, so we have all these implements, but Avery, I know what's really on your mind. 45:27.420 --> 45:29.420 Did you still beat Bob? 45:29.420 --> 45:30.420 I don't care anymore, Neil. 45:30.420 --> 45:31.420 Yes, you do. 45:31.420 --> 45:32.420 I know it should taste short of anything. 45:32.420 --> 45:33.420 Show us the leaderboard. 45:33.420 --> 45:37.420 Let's see if Bob is still on the top, or if Avery... 45:37.420 --> 45:39.420 Oh! 45:39.420 --> 45:42.420 11.5! 45:42.420 --> 45:45.300 about this this is this is interesting deal because 45:47.140 --> 45:52.340 you said that the time dancing on your mind wait i have a claim i have a counterclaim can it 45:52.900 --> 45:57.380 you said that i'm started when the role point in the well on my run they started the time but for 45:57.380 --> 46:02.340 my role point in the well i would like a recount how do you know recount that you do a frame by 46:02.340 --> 46:08.900 frame recount somebody out there in the chat go watch the clip time it yourself i got nine seconds 46:08.900 --> 46:11.980 You won back and watched. 46:11.980 --> 46:12.980 No I know what I got. 46:12.980 --> 46:13.980 Can I get the AR involved? 46:13.980 --> 46:15.980 We need some video assisted referees. 46:15.980 --> 46:23.380 We need to do a frame by frame tick by tick analysis. 46:23.380 --> 46:28.700 Whatever, I'll concede to Bob though because he's awesome and I want to see him win. 46:28.700 --> 46:30.700 Congrats on the 10K, similar cost. 46:30.700 --> 46:32.700 Honest, but it got 10K. 46:32.700 --> 46:37.940 If I win, Bob, we're going out for a dinner and we're getting 5K on top of that. 46:37.940 --> 46:38.940 There are new dough. 46:38.940 --> 46:40.940 I'm a choke on you, LaCrosse. 46:40.940 --> 46:45.940 Alright, so we've got some chocolate to melt on these cake pops. 46:45.940 --> 46:48.940 There's a microwave behind us of which we will do the melting. 46:48.940 --> 46:53.940 Gareth, since your time on our panels are limited, I will give you the opportunity to crack open that chocolate, 46:53.940 --> 46:59.940 put it inside this pot and not put the spoon inside the microwave. 46:59.940 --> 47:00.940 Wait, why not? 47:00.940 --> 47:04.940 I heard you can put aluminum or aluminum inside. 47:04.940 --> 47:05.940 Aluminum? 47:05.940 --> 47:10.500 microwave it's good anything in the microwave way you can see the light yes 47:11.060 --> 47:16.180 you're the big hand this is what magic happens so don't do it at home i've always said you make sure 47:16.180 --> 47:20.420 to see the special i definitely wash my hands before this good i'm glad we're all sure you 47:20.420 --> 47:25.780 spit you gotta spit in it first so that it doesn't stick it goes in the microwave lubricate it's gonna 47:25.780 --> 47:31.620 kill the bacteria how long are we putting it in there for five minutes probably do it five minute 47:31.620 --> 47:37.780 I think it's at least an hour. 47:37.780 --> 47:41.100 Let's say 20 seconds at a time, Gareth. 47:41.100 --> 47:43.620 Is it plugged in? 47:43.620 --> 47:44.620 High, medium? 47:44.620 --> 47:45.620 Medium. 47:45.620 --> 47:46.620 Medium rare. 47:46.620 --> 47:50.620 Medium, medium, medium, medium, medium, medium, 20 seconds. 47:50.620 --> 47:53.100 Oh yeah, I see that light coming on. 47:53.100 --> 47:54.380 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, spinning. 47:54.380 --> 47:56.020 No special effects, though. 47:56.020 --> 47:57.020 Spinning? 47:57.020 --> 47:58.460 Why would we do that? 47:58.460 --> 47:59.460 That's not effective, I do. 47:59.460 --> 48:00.460 What is effective? 48:00.460 --> 48:04.140 Boy, I sure hope that Zeus doesn't do anything to the studio. 48:04.140 --> 48:06.540 Oh, my, my, my, my. 48:06.540 --> 48:07.540 Oh, no. 48:07.540 --> 48:10.380 Whoa, Gary, did you put the spoon in the microwave? 48:10.380 --> 48:11.380 Yeah. 48:11.380 --> 48:13.780 There's a song about that, right? 48:13.780 --> 48:14.780 Just there? 48:14.780 --> 48:16.540 You put the spoon in the microwave. 48:16.540 --> 48:18.060 And shake it all up. 48:18.060 --> 48:20.180 A good song. 48:20.180 --> 48:21.180 With costs like that. 48:21.180 --> 48:23.140 I think you're making shit up. 48:23.140 --> 48:24.580 Apparently, it is a real song. 48:24.580 --> 48:25.580 Yeah. 48:25.580 --> 48:26.580 I'm going to check it. 48:26.580 --> 48:27.580 Oh, my God. 48:27.580 --> 48:29.580 It might be too early, Gary. 48:29.580 --> 48:32.700 No, I'm gonna make sure I'm not scorching it. Oh, it's melting a little bit. 48:32.700 --> 48:34.700 I'll give you a spoon now. 48:34.700 --> 48:37.700 Yeah, just spit in there real good, so you can swirl it around. 48:37.700 --> 48:38.700 Give it the ol' hot tools. 48:38.700 --> 48:40.700 Spitting in it. We're eating this every day. 48:41.700 --> 48:42.700 Are we? I'm not eating it. 48:42.700 --> 48:43.700 I'm not eating it, dad. 48:43.700 --> 48:44.700 Yeah, I'm not eating it. 48:46.700 --> 48:51.700 Uh, you're contractually obligated to eat it, unfortunately, because much is how we're all contractually obligated to eat it. 48:51.700 --> 48:52.700 Oh, you guys are getting contracts? 48:52.700 --> 48:53.700 We are. 48:53.700 --> 48:54.700 As is tradition. 48:54.700 --> 48:55.700 Oh, I know what you're talking about. 48:55.700 --> 48:58.700 Actually, I was told whoever wins the fishing game has to eat all of the cake. 48:58.700 --> 48:59.700 all the k-pop. 48:59.700 --> 49:01.140 Oh god, now Jenkins touched those. 49:01.140 --> 49:04.300 What a terrible punishment. 49:04.300 --> 49:09.140 Instead however, Avery, I'm going to punish you to stop being on this panel instead. 49:09.140 --> 49:10.140 Cast some Dota. 49:10.140 --> 49:11.140 Not yet though. 49:11.140 --> 49:13.140 I just want you to know what you're going to be casting. 49:13.140 --> 49:15.740 Let's get into the schedule for today. 49:15.740 --> 49:18.380 First series of the day, bit of a treat. 49:18.380 --> 49:19.380 Falcons vs. Clayton. 49:19.380 --> 49:20.380 Hell yeah. 49:20.380 --> 49:22.380 You're nodding fervently, Avery. 49:22.380 --> 49:23.380 Hell yeah. 49:23.380 --> 49:24.380 You're excited? 49:24.380 --> 49:25.380 I think I took me a full series, honestly. 49:25.380 --> 49:26.380 It is. 49:26.380 --> 49:27.940 I think that's gonna be a full series, honestly. 49:27.940 --> 49:29.100 It is. 49:29.100 --> 49:30.440 I think playtime we're playing up, 49:30.440 --> 49:32.620 Falcons are playing a little down. 49:32.620 --> 49:34.780 As long as Huskar gets banned, anything can happen. 49:34.780 --> 49:35.620 I've made a mistake here. 49:35.620 --> 49:37.540 But they can beat Huskar. 49:37.540 --> 49:39.020 I don't know if they're beating Falcons, 49:39.020 --> 49:40.360 or that's a little different. 49:42.360 --> 49:44.380 We actually even heard from KP yesterday 49:44.380 --> 49:47.500 that even Aurora got somewhat cheesed by Falcons, 49:47.500 --> 49:49.340 so they are hoping that Falcons win. 49:49.340 --> 49:50.180 Falcons food? 49:50.180 --> 49:51.500 I think I'm good, Gary. 49:51.500 --> 49:52.500 Well, 49:52.500 --> 49:58.500 If you didn't say that you didn't wash your hands, maybe I wouldn't. 49:58.500 --> 50:02.500 Yeah, but that was before the squeezing. 50:02.500 --> 50:04.500 The microwave, yeah, it destroys all the bacteria. 50:04.500 --> 50:05.500 That's what I'm saying. 50:05.500 --> 50:06.500 What are we worried about, anything? 50:06.500 --> 50:07.500 Science! 50:07.500 --> 50:10.500 That's why I always put my clothes in the microwave in the morning. 50:10.500 --> 50:12.500 That's how some people clean their jeans. 50:12.500 --> 50:14.500 They put them in the freezer, you know? 50:14.500 --> 50:15.500 That's true. 50:15.500 --> 50:16.500 So that works. 50:16.500 --> 50:17.500 Oh, I think we're good. 50:17.500 --> 50:23.180 series of the day was a upper bracket final to determine who the first grand finalist 50:23.180 --> 50:27.780 is going to be. It is a party vision team on spirit. That is finely melted chocolate. 50:27.780 --> 50:35.500 That is uniform. Look at that. Look at that. Oh, I'm just going to go to the castle desk 50:35.500 --> 50:43.420 and eat this on my own. Excellent. We need that. We need it for decorations. That would 50:43.420 --> 50:44.420 That would be cool. 50:44.420 --> 50:45.420 That is graphic. 50:45.420 --> 50:47.420 He's actually scared. 50:47.420 --> 50:50.420 You're a loose cannon, Gareth. 50:50.420 --> 50:52.060 He doesn't trust you. 50:52.060 --> 50:55.420 I wouldn't trust these little gnome gloves on a moron like me. 50:55.420 --> 50:56.420 It looks good. 50:56.420 --> 50:59.420 Get him in your voice. 50:59.420 --> 51:00.420 That's it? 51:00.420 --> 51:01.420 We just dip it? 51:01.420 --> 51:02.420 Oh yeah. 51:02.420 --> 51:03.420 See a toothpick in that? 51:03.420 --> 51:05.420 Sometimes you just gotta soak the balls in deep. 51:05.420 --> 51:06.420 Look. 51:06.420 --> 51:07.420 This way you can do like that. 51:07.420 --> 51:08.420 That makes a lot more sense. 51:08.420 --> 51:10.420 Cause you're stuck now. 51:10.420 --> 51:11.420 No, he's fine. 51:11.420 --> 51:13.420 Yeah, but he's gonna waste like oh, yeah, yeah, yeah 51:13.940 --> 51:15.940 The airplane Gary open your mouth 51:22.700 --> 51:26.900 All right, why you guys are looking over this I want to look over the 51:27.780 --> 51:31.960 Predictions for today you were mentioning it like us. Let's see who you chose 51:32.640 --> 51:36.580 Well first off right now you're still boy and you're topping the leaderboards 51:36.580 --> 51:40.040 Which means you get the 10k a day and K a day for the rest of the 51:41.420 --> 51:47.540 my life. 10k cake pops a day for the rest of your life. Meanwhile, Jenkins, Brian and 51:47.540 --> 51:51.500 I are on a lost maxing journey. Gareth, what's your excuse for being down here with us? 51:51.500 --> 51:55.820 I genuinely just didn't wake up from the predictions. I did really well the last couple of days though. 51:55.820 --> 52:00.380 I thought yes or no correct. Well let's see what you got today. Today you are saying a 52:00.380 --> 52:06.020 Falcons win to start things off. After that a spirit into grand finals and then you think 52:06.020 --> 52:10.780 Falcons are gonna do the two time. They're gonna beat Platon and Aurora. Yeah, I think 52:10.780 --> 52:14.040 You're gonna grind out, I think Falcon's that kind of team that just makes the run. 52:14.040 --> 52:17.420 Just for production, like, isn't this worth more points? 52:17.420 --> 52:21.700 If I go with the team that is playing twice in the same day, 52:21.700 --> 52:24.640 and they win, I should be rewarded with extra points. 52:24.640 --> 52:26.840 What, should they be rewarded with extra points as well? 52:26.840 --> 52:31.300 Yeah, because they know it's gonna be Aurora playing, so they don't care. 52:31.300 --> 52:35.300 They're like, yeah, that's a safe pick, but I went with Falcon's into another Falcon Twitter. 52:35.300 --> 52:36.680 That's three points at least. 52:36.680 --> 52:37.980 That's just playing the odds, my friend. 52:37.980 --> 52:39.380 You're gonna do a Mickey Mouse? 52:39.380 --> 52:40.900 This is the two at once. 52:40.900 --> 52:41.900 He's dual wielding. 52:41.900 --> 52:42.900 Can we stick them together? 52:42.900 --> 52:43.900 Oh yeah. 52:43.900 --> 52:44.900 That is powerful. 52:44.900 --> 52:45.900 Oh yeah. 52:45.900 --> 52:52.540 Now the thing is, we have also all these little decorations, you know the chocolate is going 52:52.540 --> 52:54.780 to harden so you kind of need to apply it. 52:54.780 --> 52:55.780 Oh no. 52:55.780 --> 52:56.780 Wild. 52:56.780 --> 52:57.780 Oh it's Dr. Neustadtl. 52:57.780 --> 52:58.780 Is it Swiss? 52:58.780 --> 52:59.780 It seems genuine. 52:59.780 --> 53:00.780 The taste of Christmas. 53:00.780 --> 53:05.780 I'm going to make a big mess. 53:05.780 --> 53:07.780 The taste of the summer. 53:07.780 --> 53:11.780 That may come be a mess, I'll make a big mess more, I'll make a big mess. 53:13.780 --> 53:14.780 Roll out the bottle. 53:14.780 --> 53:16.780 Feel it in your bones. 53:16.780 --> 53:18.780 Look at any balls. 53:18.780 --> 53:19.780 In my face. 53:19.780 --> 53:20.780 Finish them off. 53:20.780 --> 53:21.780 I've got balls in my face. 53:21.780 --> 53:23.780 That's looking good. 53:23.780 --> 53:25.780 A lot of spillage here. 53:25.780 --> 53:26.780 I've got balls in my face. 53:26.780 --> 53:27.780 That's actually strong. 53:27.780 --> 53:28.780 Okay. 53:28.780 --> 53:29.780 Look at that. 53:29.780 --> 53:30.780 Look at that right there. 53:30.780 --> 53:31.780 Yeah, absolutely. 53:31.780 --> 53:33.780 That's your last set, Gareth. 53:33.780 --> 53:36.780 Enjoy your final moments before I send you off. 53:36.780 --> 53:39.420 Send you off on a casting journey. 53:39.420 --> 53:40.700 Make them look pretty. 53:40.700 --> 53:41.900 I'm trying. 53:41.900 --> 53:43.260 You're dripping. 53:43.260 --> 53:44.620 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 53:44.620 --> 53:45.540 Inside the chocolate? 53:45.540 --> 53:46.260 Inside the chocolate. 53:46.260 --> 53:47.460 That's a bold idea. 53:47.460 --> 53:48.100 Not these ones. 53:48.100 --> 53:49.100 Oh my. 53:49.100 --> 53:51.780 It's too little embarrassing. 53:51.780 --> 53:53.820 I don't want to be affiliated with this guy. 53:53.820 --> 53:54.780 One more. 53:54.780 --> 53:55.460 There we go. 53:55.460 --> 53:56.460 Each spin is sprinkled. 53:56.460 --> 53:57.620 Spin to win, Gary. 53:57.620 --> 53:59.620 Yeah. 53:59.620 --> 54:01.620 OK. 54:01.620 --> 54:02.460 That's a good update, Gary. 54:02.460 --> 54:03.020 Spin to win. 54:03.020 --> 54:03.780 All right, gentlemen. 54:03.780 --> 54:04.860 Good teamwork. 54:04.860 --> 54:06.860 Eat one K-pop in celebration. 54:06.860 --> 54:07.860 I'm not eating those. 54:07.860 --> 54:09.420 Eat one K-pop in celebration. 54:09.420 --> 54:10.220 I don't know who made it. 54:10.220 --> 54:12.100 Don't make a cabal of a trusted. 54:12.100 --> 54:14.220 Take it, take it, Garrus. 54:14.220 --> 54:15.980 Oh, beautiful. 54:15.980 --> 54:17.940 That's a good omen of things to come, Garrus. 54:17.940 --> 54:21.260 Thank you very much, a gentleman for joining me 54:21.260 --> 54:23.500 as we get into our first series of the day. 54:23.500 --> 54:25.540 It's time for playtime versus Falcons. 54:25.540 --> 54:45.500 Playtime versus Falcons. 54:45.500 --> 54:48.740 You know, Falcons are a team we've seen far too many times. 54:48.740 --> 54:52.340 There's nothing new to really talk about, but with playtime it's their chance to be 54:52.340 --> 54:53.340 in the spotlight. 54:53.340 --> 54:59.720 And I want to show some highlights of what we're going to see from them today, because this team has been popping off. 54:59.720 --> 55:02.460 They are such a fun team to watch in yesterday. 55:02.460 --> 55:07.320 They beat that group team, handing Huskar his first loss of the tournament. 55:07.320 --> 55:12.380 So I want to get into some highlight clips here of just exactly why these guys are as stylish as they are. 55:12.380 --> 55:17.740 So I want to point out that these guys are firing on all cylinders in the rhythm and they might as well be synchronized 55:17.740 --> 55:23.980 swimmers about the Necrosythe on the Huskar at the same time that Oracle gets initiated 55:23.980 --> 55:27.820 onto because remember that's how they're going to kill the Huskar and that's how they're 55:27.820 --> 55:29.260 going to get their plan thwarted. 55:29.260 --> 55:34.300 So GPK going in a little bit deep here, but just notice that at the same time over here 55:34.300 --> 55:41.060 that Huskar is shackled that we are going to see the Reaper Scythe and the Lasso come 55:41.060 --> 55:42.060 out at the same time. 55:42.060 --> 55:46.780 Now, keep an eye out, Oracle in the front, place the ward, lasso onto him, trying to 55:46.780 --> 55:50.660 jump the Huskar in the back they even miss like he began as a great job of dodging that 55:50.660 --> 55:56.220 shackle but here comes the Reaper site oracles in trouble in the middle of the fight and 55:56.220 --> 56:01.820 now look at this run I had to play this one in slow mo so if we pause here the two supports 56:01.820 --> 56:06.340 for that boom are now positioned better Kata Omi is like okay I know they're gonna go on 56:06.340 --> 56:11.220 me let's be careful so he's getting scouted out by Frank's wolf but it doesn't see him 56:11.220 --> 56:16.700 because of the smoke so notice how this wolf right here is going to scout him again allowing 56:16.700 --> 56:21.980 Dark Mago to jump him in the back, taking out the Oracle from the equation. 56:21.980 --> 56:25.460 Even though he got his ult off, they managed to stall him out with the Bat Rider Lasso 56:25.460 --> 56:30.860 at the same time and they finish him off every single Reaper sight from Witt's going on to 56:30.860 --> 56:31.860 the GPK. 56:31.860 --> 56:33.160 Huskar. 56:33.160 --> 56:37.020 And then I want to point out that every one of these plays is set up differently. 56:37.020 --> 56:42.860 So the last one was set up by the Wolf scouting out and this one's actually set up by Witt's 56:42.860 --> 56:48.780 As we see, he's just farming bottom and he's going to draw on the minimap to see, you know, 56:48.780 --> 56:53.860 whoops, he drew on the minimap to set this up, he knew this was where the play was going 56:53.860 --> 56:59.580 to be, he tepees into the wolf, they shackle the huskar, oracle though, public enemy number 56:59.580 --> 57:06.780 one, bat rider goes for him, storm pull synchronized with the reaper scythe onto the huskar. 57:06.780 --> 57:10.660 These guys are stylus, they're looking good, I'm looking forward to seeing today exactly 57:10.660 --> 57:16.740 If Falcons is going to allow them to get to this place now, they are super chaotic in the game Falcons much more of a discipline team 57:16.740 --> 57:18.740 Which one is going to reign supreme? 57:19.820 --> 57:26.020 Execution was the flawless Brian come on down and join us here in the cake pop decorating station slash 57:26.540 --> 57:29.300 Dota analysis Quinn welcome to 57:30.540 --> 57:32.540 the party and 57:32.780 --> 57:36.620 Yeah, we had a Brian talking about some Huskar Dota 57:36.620 --> 57:42.120 Now, does that prove to me that playtime does not need to be worried about a Falcons Huskar, or is that a different beast? 57:42.120 --> 57:45.620 No, GPK is honestly a straight bad Huskar when we realize that. 57:45.620 --> 57:52.620 And Maureen and Amar are the two best Huskars in the world, and it's not close, except for this one pub guy, I can't remember his name, but he's really good too. 57:52.620 --> 57:53.620 Oh really? 57:53.620 --> 57:55.620 Yeah, he's the guy that Maureen and Amar idolize actually. 57:55.620 --> 57:56.620 I did hear about this guy. 57:56.620 --> 57:57.620 Yeah, he's their guy. 57:57.620 --> 57:58.620 Okay. 57:58.620 --> 58:01.620 I haven't added, I can't remember his name because I'm a bad friend, but anyway. 58:01.620 --> 58:07.080 Yeah, so it's if there's there's levels to it and they're not on the same level and so I think if they don't find Oscar 58:07.080 --> 58:10.640 They will lose. I think it's not the hero you give the Falcons 58:10.800 --> 58:18.800 Yeah, it was especially because I think GPK had the insurance that maybe if he's not as refined on Oscar 58:18.800 --> 58:20.800 At least I have an oracle to help me 58:20.960 --> 58:24.600 But I'll me show made sure that you do not have an oracle to help you 58:24.600 --> 58:26.320 I'm gonna last with this dude every single time 58:26.320 --> 58:29.880 Yeah, it was just a beautiful to watch like this sink that they did have in that game 58:29.880 --> 58:35.720 Not just in that game as well, but you can see that this team is on the same page when it comes down to execution. 58:35.720 --> 58:38.080 They have some like really weird picks. 58:38.080 --> 58:39.780 This has to be Scofield, for example. 58:39.780 --> 58:44.980 Like his undying performance was one of the best, like one of the craziest undying performances that I've seen. 58:44.980 --> 58:50.440 Like going in and out of the tombstone, two-shotting enemy carry with the Soul Rip, which he did max out. 58:50.440 --> 58:57.340 We don't see this hero often, but maybe they need these type of picks to be, you know, an equal match against Vulcans. 58:57.340 --> 59:00.740 I mean speaking about like mixing up the draft picks throughout the tournament a few of the heroes 59:00.740 --> 59:01.740 We've already mentioned 59:01.740 --> 59:06.740 I you know I want to point out that as the tournament goes on hero stocks rise and fall on timbersaw 59:07.020 --> 59:09.180 Doesn't have much above a 50% win rate 59:09.180 --> 59:14.940 But he's won the last seven games in the playoffs while pango who has been prioritized all tournament 59:15.180 --> 59:19.540 Has lost four out of the last five and then we saw huskar gpk 59:19.700 --> 59:24.700 Maybe a skill issue did lose its first game of the tournament. I do believe these are like the three 59:24.700 --> 59:29.040 heroes to keep an eye out for because as we move further in the tournament you've 59:29.040 --> 59:32.300 got to pick your points every team has their signatures there's these broken 59:32.300 --> 59:35.560 heroes in the meta that you have to solve and I think those three heroes on 59:35.560 --> 59:40.420 top of necrophos specifically for wits and playtime are the heroes we kind of 59:40.420 --> 59:43.180 need to keep keeping track of throughout the entire draft even if they go like 59:43.180 --> 59:46.040 unpicked there's something that both teams are always factoring in with their 59:46.040 --> 59:49.480 picks to kind of block now it's time to see which of these picks are gonna be 59:49.480 --> 59:53.400 prioritized in which bands are gonna be prioritized let's get into our series 59:53.400 --> 59:55.400 It's Center Falcons versus Playtime. 59:56.680 --> 01:00:01.160 They kind of step up as a players individually, and they actually perform much better. 01:00:01.160 --> 01:00:05.640 Everyone knows how South America plays, but some teams just struggle against it. 01:00:06.040 --> 01:00:07.800 They're just struggling, even though they know. 01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:13.800 Maybe they're just doing it some special way, that's the part that we can do. 01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:28.080 They're gonna get it, but they're very low. 01:00:28.080 --> 01:00:32.720 Now he jumps in, he gets the crush, BZM is first to die, and they will look for more 01:00:32.720 --> 01:00:35.080 a huge air spike onto two. 01:00:35.080 --> 01:00:38.720 Oh boy, triple kill for the life stealer. 01:00:38.720 --> 01:00:39.720 I'm not fit. 01:00:39.720 --> 01:00:43.400 I just grabbed the Wukong's command, and tried to throw them away. 01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:45.800 Roach has so close to damn it, he comes to Dark Margo. 01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:46.800 He's not the only one. 01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:48.920 He can't just keep the control, but he's being forced from it. 01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:51.200 Dark Margo, it's the fat phone, looking for the support. 01:00:51.200 --> 01:00:55.900 Oracle with a ghost deathjump, but there's Huff God, he dragged her out and now Reaper's tied down! 01:00:56.500 --> 01:01:02.900 Kind of like ourself in the good shape, compared to other farmers, but we were getting like all the placements, like not struggling at all. 01:01:03.300 --> 01:01:07.000 I hope we're gonna get up to some feet, I hope what the truth is out to us. 01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:12.900 It's time to see how far these lower bracket runs can it go. 01:01:12.900 --> 01:01:20.500 Platon already locked up their EWC invite, and now they're playing for Pride Glory, a little bit of a prize first as well. 01:01:20.500 --> 01:01:29.300 And they're gonna do it, but banning out the Husk are immediately no shame in their game as you said, Quinn, there are levels to this thing. 01:01:29.300 --> 01:01:34.800 Yeah, there definitely are. I think that was a necessary ban, and I am very happy they did so. 01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:41.300 The Monkey King is a little more interesting to me, because they play it too, and whenever Falcons played it against Paravision the other day, 01:01:41.300 --> 01:01:44.300 they did not look that hot, they lost the game, and he kind of struggled, so... 01:01:44.300 --> 01:01:48.300 I will say it is good against Dark Magoo's Hero Pool, and I think that is one thing you have to keep in mind. 01:01:48.300 --> 01:01:52.340 is Maureen, he's not a typically a counter picking player, but he does have some disgusting 01:01:52.340 --> 01:01:56.100 picks and those disgusting picks are generally pretty good against Dark Magoo because Dark 01:01:56.100 --> 01:01:59.900 Magoo is, I'm not trying to win the lane, I'm just picking Conka, Ember, or Panglir, 01:01:59.900 --> 01:02:00.900 and I'm piling. 01:02:00.900 --> 01:02:04.100 So, I think in some ways it doesn't make sense, even though it's a little unorthodox. 01:02:04.100 --> 01:02:06.700 Oh, Scofield clockwork straight away. 01:02:06.700 --> 01:02:12.500 He has been the menace on this hero ever since he kind of joined the professional scene. 01:02:12.500 --> 01:02:16.700 It's one of his best heroes, his clockwork as well. 01:02:16.700 --> 01:02:23.400 And I feel that this hero, it's a bit of a fraud, I would say it is strong, but I don't 01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:25.400 think this hero like should be discontented. 01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:27.400 I don't know how you guys feel about it. 01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:35.000 I'd say as a viewer at least, it's incredibly hard to gauge the annoyance that this hero 01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:37.360 creates in like the first 10 to 15 minutes. 01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:40.400 I know like even just Shakiro last patch was like, yeah, I win my lane. 01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:42.520 I think clock doesn't in a very different way. 01:02:42.520 --> 01:02:47.400 But when I see these random ganks on mid lane where it's at the rune and you just burn the 01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:50.920 guys 200 mana and then take the rune from them, like that can be pretty pivotal. 01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:54.200 I don't know what your experience is with that sort of thing, shifting the momentum 01:02:54.200 --> 01:02:55.200 of the game. 01:02:55.200 --> 01:03:00.760 But I think his, I agree, he seems a bit overrated, but his presence is hard to feel, I think 01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:01.760 as well. 01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:03.720 Oh, I agree with that. 01:03:03.720 --> 01:03:06.200 I think the hero, like it is very strong. 01:03:06.200 --> 01:03:09.000 The hero is nuts when you're playing as the hero, it feels like, it doesn't feel like 01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:10.000 Dota. 01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:12.280 You just lose all your mana in one second to some hero who's 800 units away. 01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:14.680 It feels crazy, but at the same time, 01:03:14.680 --> 01:03:16.440 your first picking clock, they're first picking pangolier. 01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:18.720 Like it's now it's a flex core compared to, 01:03:18.720 --> 01:03:19.640 it's just a four hero. 01:03:19.640 --> 01:03:21.840 I think in general, first picking supports 01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:24.080 never feels quite as powerful as first picking cores, 01:03:24.080 --> 01:03:25.320 unless it's like super crazy, 01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:26.880 like Chikiro or something like that. 01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:28.640 Is clockwork at that level? 01:03:28.640 --> 01:03:31.080 Is a bit hard to say. 01:03:31.080 --> 01:03:33.160 I think it also depends on how good you are at clockwork. 01:03:33.160 --> 01:03:34.360 Like if it's, I don't know, 01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:35.840 Ari or Mira playing clockwork, 01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:37.200 like they're great players obviously, 01:03:37.200 --> 01:03:39.920 but it's not the same to me as like Skullfield playing clock 01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:41.280 because he is the guy. 01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:42.780 Yeah, but gets his hero. 01:03:42.780 --> 01:03:45.780 Even in the previous patch, I remember watching his games, 01:03:45.780 --> 01:03:48.180 he's level 2, 6 and a half minutes in. 01:03:48.180 --> 01:03:50.580 You're like, this guy has no impact whatsoever. 01:03:50.580 --> 01:03:51.880 He has like three deaths. 01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:54.580 And then he gets the rune or steals the enemy rune. 01:03:54.580 --> 01:03:55.980 He gets two levels. 01:03:55.980 --> 01:03:56.980 Then he gets another kill. 01:03:56.980 --> 01:03:58.280 Suddenly, he's level 6. 01:03:58.280 --> 01:04:01.280 And then he's hookshotting your mid laner at 9 minutes in. 01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:02.480 You're like, how? 01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:03.480 Like, how's he doing that? 01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:04.280 He's that good. 01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:08.480 And again, we are seeing him very happy, which I'm also very happy about. 01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:10.380 Yeah, I do want to highlight him slightly more 01:04:10.380 --> 01:04:13.060 and that I think he is one of the most unique players 01:04:13.060 --> 01:04:15.180 that has ever seen on a professional level. 01:04:15.180 --> 01:04:16.780 He plays Dota in such a weird way. 01:04:16.780 --> 01:04:19.740 I've seen games where he's like level one at like minute nine. 01:04:19.740 --> 01:04:20.560 Yeah. 01:04:20.560 --> 01:04:23.940 He just does it, and he still owns, it's actually crazy, 01:04:23.940 --> 01:04:25.940 and I think he's built such a unique skill set 01:04:25.940 --> 01:04:26.820 over the years. 01:04:26.820 --> 01:04:28.220 I remember playing pubs against him, 01:04:28.220 --> 01:04:30.340 and he, every single game he was playing Tiny, 01:04:30.340 --> 01:04:32.380 with just clarity, boots, and a smoke, 01:04:32.380 --> 01:04:34.260 every single game was a starting inventory. 01:04:34.260 --> 01:04:35.700 He would have no region go to lane, 01:04:35.700 --> 01:04:37.860 get annihilated in lane, and he carried the game anyway. 01:04:37.860 --> 01:04:40.180 This guy's a weird heckin' player, but he's so good. 01:04:40.180 --> 01:04:44.900 I mean my memory of skill field is also on tiny and it's like you're thinking. Oh, I need it 01:04:44.900 --> 01:04:49.420 I'm carry I need a teepee to my team at Roche at 35 minutes in and you're like jungling a corner of the map 01:04:49.420 --> 01:04:52.420 And he's just a tiny that cancels your teepee and then spends the next 01:04:52.860 --> 01:04:54.940 Literal minute instead of joining his team to fight 01:04:54.940 --> 01:04:59.740 He's just tossing you and avalanche and you and yulzing you and you're like dude. Can you can you screw off? 01:04:59.740 --> 01:05:04.420 Like I just want to freakin play the game like that's what it feels like playing against go feel so everything you guys have said about 01:05:04.420 --> 01:05:10.980 clockwork. I think Falcons are gonna lose. I saw Mar on the camera. He is not playing in the full 01:05:10.980 --> 01:05:14.980 darkness. Yeah, there's a lot of sunlight. Yeah, there's light in his room. That's not a good time. 01:05:14.980 --> 01:05:18.900 Morning games. He's good. That is not his element. Turn down the luminance. 01:05:20.740 --> 01:05:26.260 Playtime are going to follow up that go field clockwork with a Shadowfiend and a Hoodwink, 01:05:26.260 --> 01:05:32.820 and Falcons to get themselves a Doom and a Lich. I want to point out that Wits is the only SF 01:05:32.820 --> 01:05:36.860 carry player that has gone the Kaiyasha both games that I've seen him play it and 01:05:36.860 --> 01:05:43.300 I don't know SF as like a turret just feels a lot more lot less it feels 01:05:43.300 --> 01:05:46.980 underwhelming compared to like Muerta and like drow in terms of the damage 01:05:46.980 --> 01:05:49.780 output that it provides ever since they've like nerfed his souls and is 01:05:49.780 --> 01:05:53.900 like minus armor every every like recent patch has kind of tweaked out a little 01:05:53.900 --> 01:05:58.140 bit against him so I think it's really important to note that the SF Kaiyasha 01:05:58.140 --> 01:06:02.420 build does still scale with physical damage but you're more of like a mid game 01:06:02.420 --> 01:06:05.360 Damage dealer and it I think the matchups play out very differently 01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:12.280 So I'm wondering he asked Florida, but he's also against lich and you're against doom right because doom loves playing against these 01:06:12.720 --> 01:06:17.400 Melee or range turrets that by satanic and just like scan the ground. I don't think that's the way he'll want to play 01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:22.160 So I'm very curious to see how wits plays this SF because he is like a lot of these other heroes are just enablers 01:06:22.160 --> 01:06:28.240 Yeah, hoodwink has damage of her own, but slaughter and clock virtually no damage themselves. It's all about setting up their carry to do it 01:06:28.240 --> 01:06:34.240 so then why pick the slaughter then if with leans to more of a raise build SF 01:06:34.240 --> 01:06:39.560 then what's I mean you still have a lot of like innate damage and once you hit 01:06:39.560 --> 01:06:43.120 level 25 which is like happening in every single game that we're watching 01:06:43.120 --> 01:06:47.960 the raised talent does like you you can you eventually go like the data list is 01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:52.000 and you do go like satanic and stuff but it's not in the standard fashion of 01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:55.680 hurricane pike data list butterfly you know sits still in the right click which 01:06:55.680 --> 01:07:00.560 which I think is what do encounters, so I'm curious to see if he still goes that Kaiyashia 01:07:00.560 --> 01:07:01.560 because of that. 01:07:01.560 --> 01:07:03.040 There's still Windranger in the pool. 01:07:03.040 --> 01:07:08.240 He is one of the few players who still has 100% Windrate on the hero, and good matchup 01:07:08.240 --> 01:07:11.280 against SF, good matchup against Lager in the lane. 01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:15.640 If you're playing Lich plus Windranger, like this Lager, he's straight up not gonna have 01:07:15.640 --> 01:07:18.640 a good time. 01:07:18.640 --> 01:07:27.520 Skitter Heroes are the last ones to remain a gyro-copter and alchemist band, which unsurprisingly 01:07:27.520 --> 01:07:31.920 does lead you to believe that Frank wants to play some zoo, so Falcon's ban out the enigma 01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:37.520 and what a like-in also. That would be the natural one to jump to, I think it's pretty expected. 01:07:37.520 --> 01:07:42.800 I'm not sure what else they would be considering. I imagine it is Florida Mid, is Dark Magoo, 01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:47.120 his hero pool. I mean, Falcon's a band targeted him pretty heavily with Storm and Conqueror's 01:07:47.120 --> 01:07:50.600 first phase bands and they steal pango so he's kind of only got a couple of years 01:07:50.600 --> 01:07:53.760 left it's gonna make sense how how does that match a play out the slaughter 01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:58.280 pango it's relatively dry yeah so I can eat out a very small advantage but it's 01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:01.880 malrian so I expected to be pretty close to the light for the game itself are you 01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:05.560 happier being the slaughter or the pango in terms of the fact that it does go 01:08:05.560 --> 01:08:10.560 even like like who benefits from from that more like I would say my girl would 01:08:10.560 --> 01:08:22.520 say pangol but no I mean I think I think slaughter SF is pretty good against 01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:25.320 pangol or you rolling you beat up so you need to play the game in a very 01:08:25.320 --> 01:08:28.440 specific way you need to be mindful how much damage they have and when you go in 01:08:28.440 --> 01:08:31.680 so it's a it's a skill matchup but I think it is totally fine for pangol 01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:36.760 I think both have 15 play cool cool okay I think they pre-picked this 01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:41.640 Largo because of the Windranger that we were talking about just to have that extra dispell 01:08:42.040 --> 01:08:45.000 But I've seen people pick Windranger. There was a game yesterday 01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:48.000 Yeah, Tundra where they didn't care about this Largo at all 01:08:48.080 --> 01:08:51.960 But he picked it into Doom. Isn't Doom supposed to just freaking hone Largo? 01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:56.120 Isn't that why you pick it? Like people are usually picking Doom in response to Largo. I thought 01:08:58.400 --> 01:09:02.760 That is an interesting pick to me because traditionally, Slaughter like absolutely destroys 01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:08.500 Life Stealer, usually when Slaughter is an off laner, but they obviously know that it's not going to be waning against him 01:09:08.500 --> 01:09:11.380 I think the game matchup is not nearly as bad as the lane 01:09:11.900 --> 01:09:15.580 This is a weird draft because I feel like the Largo pick 01:09:15.580 --> 01:09:19.620 I really like to play times draft before the last two picks and the Largo pick kind of just 01:09:20.620 --> 01:09:22.620 Ruined it for you. Yeah, kind of ruin it for me 01:09:24.900 --> 01:09:26.020 I 01:09:26.020 --> 01:09:28.020 Think life stealer 01:09:28.020 --> 01:09:31.020 Doesn't care that much about Slaughter mid especially when you have a lich in the game 01:09:31.020 --> 01:09:37.700 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and it's pretty good against Larcoba. I think playtime can be like the game is playable 01:09:38.460 --> 01:09:43.180 Depending on how the state line goes because I think SF clock should be pretty good against doom plus one in lane 01:09:43.180 --> 01:09:48.500 And if they do well in state line, then maybe there's some crazy aggressive potential because life still is a pretty slow hero 01:09:48.500 --> 01:09:52.180 It doesn't really do too much to the Israeli and so there's potential for some early aggression 01:09:52.180 --> 01:09:54.780 But I think if it goes the distance you kind of always have the favorite Falcons 01:09:54.780 --> 01:10:00.220 I do think though playtime has the pizzazz and they have the passion factor where like for me this Falcons 01:10:00.220 --> 01:10:02.060 This is just another turn, who had the fairs for them, 01:10:02.060 --> 01:10:03.100 you know, they won a million turns. 01:10:03.100 --> 01:10:05.580 Playtime, this team feels like Thunder Predator to me 01:10:05.580 --> 01:10:08.020 at TI 11, like they've got that sauce right now. 01:10:08.020 --> 01:10:09.180 And so when I'm watching them, 01:10:09.180 --> 01:10:10.660 I can see the passion and the care 01:10:10.660 --> 01:10:12.960 and like their up and comers with the old dogs. 01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:14.420 Like I really like this team as well. 01:10:14.420 --> 01:10:16.340 I think they've got that, they've got that sauce. 01:10:16.340 --> 01:10:17.820 This is a statement game for them. 01:10:17.820 --> 01:10:18.740 Yes. 01:10:18.740 --> 01:10:21.460 That is, I think there's also a lot of pressure relieved 01:10:21.460 --> 01:10:23.940 because they already qualified for EWC. 01:10:23.940 --> 01:10:26.900 So now you're going to see them like full fucking force. 01:10:26.900 --> 01:10:28.580 They're not going to be caring about anything. 01:10:28.580 --> 01:10:35.580 And I think the games are going to be chaotic, and it's up to Falcons to try to match this crazy tempo that they're going to try to bring. 01:10:35.580 --> 01:10:37.580 My only question is, are we going to see double radiance? 01:10:37.580 --> 01:10:43.580 Because Amar usually goes radiance on Offlane Doom, and Lifesteal is a traditional radiance carry, and Quinn you were talking about the pace of the game. 01:10:43.580 --> 01:10:52.580 I think there is that window where Slardar is going to run around with a blink, and it's kind of all on Mal'Reen to weather that and make sure that they can counteract those plays, 01:10:52.580 --> 01:10:54.580 because I think Doom and Lifesteal just want to chill. 01:10:54.580 --> 01:11:00.580 I think I'm excited to see if playtime brings it because yesterday I feel like was there crunch time and now this is kind of just a bonus. 01:11:00.580 --> 01:11:06.580 Can they afford to go double radiance or is this a playtime roster that's going to end the game as fast as they can? 01:11:06.580 --> 01:11:11.580 The question is always can we afford it and do our heroes work if we don't do it? 01:11:11.580 --> 01:11:16.580 And I think a lot of this in this type of game is what does the game look like at 12 minutes and then you make that decision accordingly. 01:11:16.580 --> 01:11:21.740 Well, let's see if a playtime will continue this lower bracket run or Falcons are going 01:11:21.740 --> 01:11:22.740 to put a cork in it. 01:11:22.740 --> 01:11:25.100 Let's get into game number one with Garrison, a feature. 01:12:16.580 --> 01:12:27.780 As we say, back into the PogChamp, Pandas just as Quidd instead play time with a passion 01:12:27.780 --> 01:12:30.700 of his fans as they make their pilgrimage down this lower bracket, and they're gonna 01:12:30.700 --> 01:12:34.660 bring the pain against Parkinson's here, as they're so sure they could put up a brick 01:12:34.660 --> 01:12:37.180 wall against aggressive teams like Betboom. 01:12:37.180 --> 01:12:40.860 Now against Parkinson's, we can grind the game down, a different story for sure. 01:12:40.860 --> 01:12:46.140 Gonna bring the magic, try and find something here, especially through a scope build clockwork. 01:12:46.140 --> 01:12:52.460 The scary thing is though, SVG, you've got seven bands and you still allow Falcons to have a lot of their signature heroes and get what they want. 01:12:53.020 --> 01:13:01.580 Two Grandmasters here, heroes, and you can argue a third in this Doom with how much Amar likes getting his hands on that Doom-R, as it's been put. 01:13:02.420 --> 01:13:06.580 The highest win rate Doom player of all time, and very scary when he's on this hero. 01:13:06.580 --> 01:13:13.180 It's just the ultimate anti-carry, that's his playstyle, he's always gonna ruin your day, and man, does he know how to scale this hero, he lanes with it super well. 01:13:13.180 --> 01:13:18.180 That's the scariest element here. On top of them, yeah, they got their lich, they've been winning with it. 01:13:18.180 --> 01:13:23.180 They got the Skeeter Life Stealer, that they love playing around with and fights these boosting HP, pulls up. 01:13:23.180 --> 01:13:28.180 A lot of stiggies on the side of the box, not to mention that Crit Rubik, arguably one of the best Rubiks of all time. 01:13:28.180 --> 01:13:35.180 So, definitely a uphill challenge here for playtime to continue to prove themselves against the big dogs, but that's what it's all about. 01:13:35.180 --> 01:13:41.180 And honestly, you should approach that challenge with, as the panel said, some passion and like, you know what? 01:13:41.180 --> 01:13:44.020 You know what, yeah, maybe we're underdogs here, but fuck it. 01:13:44.020 --> 01:13:44.520 Go at it. 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:45.020 Yeah. 01:13:45.020 --> 01:13:46.640 You gotta take on the big dogs sometimes. 01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:48.720 So let's see what they can pull out in this series. 01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:53.000 And I think this draft, I think it got away from them 01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:54.020 a little bit at the very end. 01:13:54.020 --> 01:13:55.640 I'm also not sold on the Largo pick. 01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:57.640 I don't think it necessarily did much for their lineup. 01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.840 You're playing Slardar, I said, with a lot of physical damage. 01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:03.800 I think Largo's often better with these low cooldown spell 01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:06.840 casters that benefit from the ability and the magic 01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:09.280 amp and the Crocogeanus, one of those more like the Storms, 01:14:09.280 --> 01:14:10.680 the Pucks, the Timbers, right? 01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:14.360 So, I think you're not really getting the same value and synergy out of the Largo here. 01:14:14.360 --> 01:14:18.200 It does have a nice dispel against the Lich, you kind of run away from Doom a little bit, but... 01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:21.480 I'm not super sold on the Largo buff here, so... 01:14:22.160 --> 01:14:26.200 Frank is gonna have to prove me wrong, bring this lineup together, and... 01:14:26.200 --> 01:14:28.880 they definitely have a lot of Roche taking potential on single target first. 01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:32.440 I am gonna do move things around a little bit, so Elmisha is playing now, 01:14:32.440 --> 01:14:37.960 who'd been covered top with the Largo, leaving Schofield bottom to deal with the wave dragging and equilibrium shift. 01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:44.800 That's what some late it seems like this logo is not gonna get hard shut down in this lane as we saw last night against that nightfall 01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:46.000 Windranger 01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:52.000 Swap these exports definitely helps here if it was clock top here relegated to pulling waves that's why those gonna get way more 01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:58.280 Abused so heads up late play time. This makes both their lanes arguably stronger in terms of this energy 01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:02.880 The hood wings always gonna be the stronger laner, but he'll be show he's proving himself on this hero 01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:06.880 And then having himself one hell of a tournament on top of it. 01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:12.880 Dude, the Dark Margo, Slardar in mid, we're kind of wondering what is he going to last pick here while he ran out of hero so they just gave him the Slardar. 01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:16.880 Pretty comfortable in the hero. And it is a hero that can do well against Ping on the lane. 01:15:16.880 --> 01:15:21.880 There's a hero that goes in as well. Dark Margo, they have the greatest strength in fact. 01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:26.880 Ability to pick his moments, initiate onto people and kind of surprise them when you jump onto one of these cores. 01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:28.880 Slardar can certainly do that. 01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:41.880 And yeah, there's this bottom lane, right? You talked about the doom, his win rate, the fact that overall Amar is like the winningest off laner, pretty much of all time, you know, all the stats coming out about him, he wins his off lanes against carries, he puts up massive numbers. 01:15:41.880 --> 01:15:50.880 When you give him a hero that can also scale through Devourer, get a lot of gold, he ends up absolutely massive. And so far he has been shut down a little bit. 01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:57.880 And then, last hit, 5-9s, and stuff. Clockwork is definitely an annoying lane, but he's not being killed off. 01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:02.880 They pulled the wave earlier, trying to dodge the early forces of this lane against the SF. 01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:07.880 The level 2 raise will be a pressure point against him, but he already has 2 points in scorched earth. 01:16:07.880 --> 01:16:11.880 He already has a big plus for Acerov. It's kind of tanky already. 01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:17.880 I just wondered if playtime had the ability to kill a Mard out here with pressure and without committing overwhelming force. 01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:21.880 Cause you would like to get some pressure out of this SF on the lane versus the melee hero. 01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:26.880 And he's gonna have the wand recipe and a couple of bits of the second bracelet being delivered as well. 01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:28.880 So really crazy for tanky. 01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:31.880 There's other top lanes, making his lich out in the open here. 01:16:31.880 --> 01:16:33.880 Getting licked back in and first blood for El Misho. 01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:35.880 Nice little pick up right there. 01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:38.880 I think we see Lich die in lane phase every single time. 01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:41.880 He's like the old Crystal Maiden. You step away from that tree line? 01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:42.880 Yes. 01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:43.880 You just die. 01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:44.880 He has very low armor. 01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:45.880 He's not that fast. 01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:51.880 His spells are good at abusing heroes offensively, not that strong in defensive positions. 01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:56.880 So if you can just start 2 on 1 on him on the side, you're almost always going to just kill him 100-0. 01:16:56.880 --> 01:16:58.880 You can't really get out of that situation. 01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:04.880 I think most of these lich players are trying to play the lane hyzer aggressive to maximize value out of this early new key capability, 01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:05.880 which is what you want to do. 01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:08.880 But if you overstep that line a little bit, you end up paying the price. 01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:10.880 That's why he's got two mangos, right? 01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:12.880 He wants to keep spamming all these spells. 01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:18.880 But that's also the downside. When you die on Lich, it's a real rough, because you don't want to get a better kill with the mana abuse. 01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:24.880 I mean, getting dived by the hoodwink and the slaughter, it's another shield crash off, but they've got a crush. 01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:29.880 No, they don't. Cancelled by the lift, Darmaga chases forward, taking damage on his way through, 01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:35.880 but still gets the kill on the pango, and El Miso, Fairy Flyer, actually keeps him alive as well. 01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:39.880 I think if Crypt TP's a little earlier there, it might get that slaughter, but that was a weird situation. 01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:43.760 situation like even we were watching what's going on here so I can't really 01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:46.960 blame him for that one it's one of those things you look at the replays like how 01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:50.920 did you end up in this situation in the first place perhaps but nice little 01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:56.520 swing by mid you get the kill good wink winning two lanes now and every time you 01:17:56.520 --> 01:18:02.160 just can't go before six feels really nice kind of crazy to see Rubik with 01:18:02.160 --> 01:18:05.480 more last hits than I do right now guess the gather up a ton in that mid lane 01:18:05.480 --> 01:18:09.480 he's always been a little bit greedy securing things with fadebolt but 16 01:18:09.480 --> 01:18:15.220 two Rubik. Some of the weight pulling two. Yeah, running to play. It's also some 01:18:15.220 --> 01:18:19.340 Cog lasted. I think he probably got at least four between the first two fights. 01:18:19.340 --> 01:18:22.860 So it's a little inflamed here, but you are right. He's fairly farmed on the slain 01:18:22.860 --> 01:18:26.540 phase, fairly high level. This was one of those supports I don't mind now. I mean, 01:18:26.540 --> 01:18:29.500 that is one of the reasons that the Absor had one of the highest burn rates on 01:18:29.500 --> 01:18:33.100 zero ever. It wasn't necessarily he was so mechanically better on the here that 01:18:33.100 --> 01:18:37.500 everybody else. It's selfish. Yeah, he played it very greedily. He did not 01:18:37.500 --> 01:18:42.540 Fast press a lot. He knew if I get farmed early, I get a fast arcane boots, fast ATLens, whatever it is 01:18:42.540 --> 01:18:45.980 I'm gonna take the game over. You gotta prioritize yourself sometimes 01:18:47.180 --> 01:18:48.700 Especially if you know that 01:18:48.700 --> 01:18:52.300 You can't get stuff done. There ain't a lot of damage coming out of this level six Slot on 01:18:52.860 --> 01:18:57.820 It's been minused on the strat and everything built from the ground up. SF, hoodwink, Slot on, offering a ton of it 01:18:59.020 --> 01:19:01.020 Got shunked 01:19:01.660 --> 01:19:04.700 Just playing through that radiant visionless in the top jungle. They see everything coming 01:19:04.700 --> 01:19:09.700 Falcons down? Three kills. Playtime, I've had a very good start to this. 01:19:09.700 --> 01:19:14.700 Looking good today, looking crisp. So there's a question, you know, which playtime are we going to see? 01:19:14.700 --> 01:19:19.700 Are they going to be in zone? Are they going to be focused up or are the shirts coming off and it's just chaotic? 01:19:19.700 --> 01:19:24.700 Well, this is pretty focused right now. Controlled chaos, I might say. 01:19:24.700 --> 01:19:27.700 It feels like it's something they need to do as well. 01:19:27.700 --> 01:19:34.700 He's pretty tanky on the frog, still holding the Lotus, getting ready to threat up the lane. 01:19:34.700 --> 01:19:38.700 Honestly, this hero's like fairly good against this lane. 01:19:38.700 --> 01:19:40.700 Way better than I thought. 01:19:40.700 --> 01:19:43.700 Maybe some of the health regen off of the link. 01:19:43.700 --> 01:19:45.700 Just kind of sustaining him a little bit extra. 01:19:45.700 --> 01:19:47.700 You won't forget about that interaction, but... 01:19:47.700 --> 01:19:50.700 I'll lick off the shield from away. 01:19:50.700 --> 01:19:56.700 He's just kind of been licking creeps and getting a decent amount of extra regen from it. 01:19:56.700 --> 01:19:57.580 Does that up? 01:19:58.100 --> 01:19:58.980 That's pretty nice. 01:19:58.980 --> 01:20:00.980 Nice to land Al-Misha to just rotate around. 01:20:01.740 --> 01:20:02.240 Yeah. 01:20:02.240 --> 01:20:04.740 Help out the mid lane, and that slaughterer is gonna return the favor. 01:20:05.300 --> 01:20:07.060 Also be a huge kill if they grab him. 01:20:07.060 --> 01:20:08.820 Oh, he's not the most fixed, he's missing! 01:20:08.820 --> 01:20:10.260 I speak as the rage off, though. 01:20:10.260 --> 01:20:11.060 They're gonna dive it. 01:20:11.060 --> 01:20:13.460 He's on the tower, licking back into the crush. 01:20:14.100 --> 01:20:17.100 They've taken him down to half health with the bashes and the frog stomped. 01:20:17.100 --> 01:20:20.300 They know he has no rage, no infest, level 5 lifesteal is gone. 01:20:20.300 --> 01:20:23.020 What a time to make that flame one creep off the infest. 01:20:23.020 --> 01:20:25.180 Wait for them in time, sliding that bottom lane. 01:20:25.180 --> 01:20:33.180 Just thinking, but I'm already getting the carry kill down there so they're trading out like at the crush. 01:20:33.180 --> 01:20:37.180 Finish him off on the tower with a couple of touches, looks like he can. 01:20:37.180 --> 01:20:39.180 Dark Mago, making this a lot of work. 01:20:39.180 --> 01:20:43.180 He's on a regen rune, so he's gonna keep him on the map as well. 01:20:43.180 --> 01:20:46.180 He's got a big wave, let's see if he takes this or he gives it to his S.M. 01:20:46.180 --> 01:20:49.180 He's got to get a terrorist up here, right? 01:20:49.180 --> 01:20:50.180 What, does he? 01:20:50.180 --> 01:20:53.180 Yeah, you can't take all this away from him. 01:20:53.180 --> 01:20:57.580 Max is one creep, and I stuff like, come on, rest his mind, I have the income. 01:20:58.580 --> 01:21:00.780 Not a bad outcome for playtime here. 01:21:00.780 --> 01:21:07.580 Yeah, you lose your SF, but you get both the cores on the side lane for Dark Mago, who is pretty jacked in this game. 01:21:07.580 --> 01:21:09.080 Could have a really fast blink. 01:21:09.080 --> 01:21:10.780 I really like that play called Top. 01:21:10.780 --> 01:21:16.980 He just runs through the river, has some points in sprint, and just identifies, hey, this playstealer, he's a little 5 still. 01:21:16.980 --> 01:21:18.780 Not a lot he can do versus me. 01:21:18.780 --> 01:21:22.780 We do see Skeeter trying to keep with the will to king creep. 01:21:22.780 --> 01:21:25.780 They're going to look for this SF again, they know ATB down here. 01:21:26.780 --> 01:21:29.780 Cross the clockwork, hurricane them in towards the doom. 01:21:29.780 --> 01:21:31.780 Take him down. 01:21:31.780 --> 01:21:33.780 They can bring the pango across here as they... 01:21:33.780 --> 01:21:36.780 ...blow that pressure to tier one, but play time. 01:21:36.780 --> 01:21:39.780 Trying to fight back, don't want to give it up for free. 01:21:39.780 --> 01:21:42.780 Bring Slotard down, an immediate doom into rolling Thunderbone. 01:21:42.780 --> 01:21:47.780 Dark Margo, they thought he had friends nearby, does get up the ladder to the lick over the cliff top. 01:21:47.780 --> 01:21:50.780 Trying to get far away with Frank bodyguarding. 01:21:50.780 --> 01:21:54.780 Another swashbuckle kill here, knocking a lambo and El Misha can protect with a pushwank. 01:21:54.780 --> 01:22:00.500 Dark Margot back in, pango, shield crash, and he's not in trouble anymore and it's Witt who's being chased by a Marr. 01:22:00.500 --> 01:22:06.220 The life stealer is on his tail, they surround him as by the rocket flares, snipes out Marlene with them, 01:22:06.220 --> 01:22:12.380 makes sure it's touched for now, Frank getting amongst them by Skidder, and the life stealer realizes he doesn't have enough damage to deal with his Largo. 01:22:12.860 --> 01:22:20.260 Falcons bogged down in a fight that they've got to escape from now, because Snakey's being hunted by the squirrel, a double kill out of the hoodwing. 01:22:20.260 --> 01:22:24.920 They're still chasing here. Might be able to grab a Maar with the TP back in from the squirrel. 01:22:25.400 --> 01:22:27.880 Amisho's just everywhere, they're gonna get crit too. 01:22:27.880 --> 01:22:32.080 And I'm not gonna frag, but the crit this frog just hopped out of the fight, came back in. 01:22:32.580 --> 01:22:37.240 That was a great fight for Frank. He did a lot of work on it. Early level Largo, like we saw yesterday, 01:22:37.240 --> 01:22:40.420 33 really struggled to find Opines in that game when he fell behind. 01:22:41.420 --> 01:22:44.900 Frank had just enough of a lane phase here, you can join these early fights, have impacts. 01:22:44.900 --> 01:22:47.620 Suddenly he's 203, this Largo is 205. 01:22:47.620 --> 01:22:49.380 A beautiful lick up the high ground. 01:22:49.380 --> 01:22:53.540 Completely salvaged that fight because that Largo is DEAD if that rolling thunder connects. 01:22:53.540 --> 01:22:56.580 They needed one more nuke to land on him, the swash missed at the end. 01:22:57.860 --> 01:23:00.260 These guys are in the zone right now, absolutely. 01:23:00.260 --> 01:23:02.580 You can just feel all these little things going their way. 01:23:02.580 --> 01:23:04.980 It doesn't mean they're gonna win this game or anything, but like... 01:23:04.980 --> 01:23:05.460 Damn. 01:23:06.100 --> 01:23:07.780 It's looking good for their playstyle. 01:23:07.780 --> 01:23:10.740 It's kind of chaotic skirmishing, people connecting. 01:23:10.740 --> 01:23:13.220 You did lose your ass up again though, that definitely hurts. 01:23:13.220 --> 01:23:13.620 Yeah. 01:23:13.620 --> 01:23:17.460 Like, Witz has been set back a little bit, but he is top of the chart, so... 01:23:17.460 --> 01:23:18.960 I can't feel too bad here. 01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:22.560 Still showing that strategy they were using up against Batwom. 01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:24.060 To pay off against Falcons. 01:23:24.060 --> 01:23:26.760 Preparation and opportunity to meet each other in that bottom lane, 01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:29.160 knowing the Falcons are gonna make one of these big sweeping moves 01:23:29.160 --> 01:23:31.060 to try and reclaim character on the map. 01:23:31.060 --> 01:23:34.460 They're ready. They're already moving down there. They read the situation. 01:23:34.460 --> 01:23:36.060 There's another smoke. 01:23:36.060 --> 01:23:38.260 He's to Pango though. 01:23:38.260 --> 01:23:39.560 Very strong. 01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:40.560 Defensive hook shot. 01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:42.060 Well, actually it goes on the dude. 01:23:42.060 --> 01:23:45.960 I know he's starting an aggressive move, but he leaves Elmisha stranded. 01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:50.760 Push back those stolen missiles though, and the hoodwink. Sharp shoot down to low ground, back into the river. 01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:51.360 Can't find it. 01:23:51.360 --> 01:23:54.660 He's so much time to chase him once. Go field. Yeah, he's dying offscreen. 01:23:55.160 --> 01:24:00.660 On issue down, kill streak taken, and the clockwork. One more little hit there from the last healer. Gets the two of them. 01:24:00.660 --> 01:24:02.760 Alright, so they do get both supports in the end. 01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:07.460 Important connection for Falcons with how many resources they've committed to try and kick these heroes out of bottom lane. 01:24:07.460 --> 01:24:10.760 They really want this tower natural pressure point to attack. 01:24:11.360 --> 01:24:15.060 And they'll get it here. All three cores, another power room, another smoke committed. 01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:17.960 The only real trade-off is the... 01:24:18.360 --> 01:24:21.240 ...Bleed Dagger being completed for Dark Mago while this is happening. 01:24:23.480 --> 01:24:25.480 I just want to be supposed to die again. 01:24:26.360 --> 01:24:27.480 Cool little guys. 01:24:27.480 --> 01:24:29.480 Will be a fast rebuttal... 01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:34.520 ...of playtime here with the smoke being completed on the Slarder. They're gonna TP the supports of it, potentially smoke... 01:24:35.560 --> 01:24:38.120 ...or just run in a bar and they're not gonna smoke for it. 01:24:39.160 --> 01:24:41.160 Well this dude must be shut down pretty well. 01:24:41.160 --> 01:24:42.680 Yeah, he's dead again. 01:24:42.680 --> 01:24:45.480 That's the 4,000 that were raised into the ground. 01:24:45.480 --> 01:24:47.080 He's really poor, actually. 01:24:47.080 --> 01:24:48.080 He is. 01:24:49.280 --> 01:24:50.480 What's going on here? 01:24:50.480 --> 01:24:53.180 He's taking the raises and he's just been crushed in the landing stage. 01:24:53.180 --> 01:24:55.480 A lot of emphasis put on dealing with his doom. 01:24:56.480 --> 01:24:59.180 It's a much needed early tempo at this range inside. 01:24:59.180 --> 01:25:02.480 Making sure the falcons aren't able to make these biting moves 01:25:02.480 --> 01:25:04.680 where they get a little bit inch forward. 01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:07.680 They're just being held back in every step. 01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:14.000 They will always have the Saurgar-Amp plus SF turret against his pangels. 01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:16.000 It's not an entirely free pangel game. 01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:19.840 You can even hook shot him while he's kinda amped to help get some extra right clicks 01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:21.760 in if it really comes to it. 01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:24.760 Like, I think this lineup does have a large window to scale. 01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:25.760 Ultra late, yeah, sure. 01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:27.680 The Falcon's Tri-Core looks stronger on paper. 01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:30.480 I think there's a certain point you just hit a critical threshold, but I think this 01:25:30.480 --> 01:25:31.480 SF is... 01:25:31.480 --> 01:25:37.520 He has a long time to try and turn this game in his favor and just run away with it. 01:25:37.520 --> 01:25:40.940 Accelerate out of control with how much the slaughter can buff up his DPS 01:25:44.440 --> 01:25:46.960 One still is getting pretty close to his relic for radiance 01:25:47.600 --> 01:25:51.320 Falcon's gonna try and make a bit of room to skip that. He takes that block jungle 01:25:51.600 --> 01:25:57.440 That means crit and malarine out in the forest. They're trying it both here. Kind of alone 01:25:57.880 --> 01:26:00.400 Rolling thunder up. Oh, what a cock. He's pushed back by the cocks 01:26:01.160 --> 01:26:02.660 Delft in his tracks 01:26:02.660 --> 01:26:04.660 Go field 01:26:04.660 --> 01:26:11.360 That's a difficult play to get both out of that situation considering the pangol can just go for the rolling thunder instantly 01:26:11.600 --> 01:26:13.840 Hesitates a little and then that's all it takes 01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:22.440 Immediate jump let's go. There's always looking at bonus target lines up the cog 01:26:23.320 --> 01:26:25.320 Patiently does it that get possible 01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:30.600 Unifly done it kills a lot of space created 01:26:31.720 --> 01:26:33.720 My rest half backs it off the net worst 01:26:34.660 --> 01:26:36.660 Are they going double radiance? 01:26:36.660 --> 01:26:40.660 So yeah, I was going to ask you this because we've seen it a couple of times now, right? 01:26:40.660 --> 01:26:43.660 Where they don't seem to mind going double radiance? 01:26:43.660 --> 01:26:47.660 It's not the worst. I mean, the main purpose of radiance is to farm on it. 01:26:47.660 --> 01:26:50.660 It's about accelerating your hero on the map, clearing waves. 01:26:50.660 --> 01:26:55.660 Yeah, the overlap kind of sucks in the fight, but honestly, sometimes it rarely comes into play. 01:26:55.660 --> 01:26:59.660 The real downside when you overlap items is it just makes your lineup more one-dimensional. 01:26:59.660 --> 01:27:04.180 Like you're not having someone go Radiance be a damage dealer and someone else getting 01:27:04.180 --> 01:27:09.740 armor or frontline or loaders or something like that, it bounces it out or amplifies 01:27:09.740 --> 01:27:10.740 it. 01:27:10.740 --> 01:27:14.980 A lot of those about amplifying one vocal point, punching with it in the front. 01:27:14.980 --> 01:27:21.460 And I guess now it's personal of agent rather than the AoE miss chance, it's a little better, 01:27:21.460 --> 01:27:26.060 especially like right click strategies, like having this minus armor. 01:27:26.060 --> 01:27:30.860 Yeah, maybe there's an argument there like you're building a double null Talisman of evasion against the right-click line 01:27:30.860 --> 01:27:35.740 If there's some value, I don't know. I it's like I want a farming item. I want something to deal with the the right clicks 01:27:35.740 --> 01:27:37.740 I don't want to buy some armor shit early on 01:27:38.140 --> 01:27:40.860 It'll be a little surprised if a mar commits for it here 01:27:42.300 --> 01:27:47.420 Maybe just queuing something else up, but we'll see see what he ends up with here's big smoke from playtime there 01:27:47.660 --> 01:27:49.660 Looking for the doom again 01:27:49.660 --> 01:27:51.100 They've shot down tremendously. 01:27:51.100 --> 01:27:55.660 Hook shot over with Mullerine, breaking open this fight with a rolling thunder. 01:27:55.660 --> 01:27:59.220 Scofield gets taken down, and the follow-through wasn't down to a bar. 01:27:59.220 --> 01:28:00.220 Protected. 01:28:00.220 --> 01:28:01.460 Only three of his buddies. 01:28:01.460 --> 01:28:02.580 Still looking weird. 01:28:02.580 --> 01:28:04.340 Damn, Misha was gonna push back forward. 01:28:04.340 --> 01:28:05.620 They kept tabs on this. 01:28:05.620 --> 01:28:07.620 Doom, and now they find him on the second go. 01:28:07.620 --> 01:28:08.980 That's so fast. 01:28:08.980 --> 01:28:10.700 Have a flurry of spells. 01:28:10.700 --> 01:28:13.740 Catch the rubik in the trees with his T-feed home. 01:28:13.740 --> 01:28:15.740 Snake is just gonna float out of there. 01:28:15.740 --> 01:28:20.300 Even more speed out of this playtime side, you lose your clockwork but you kill the 01:28:20.300 --> 01:28:22.460 Doom and the Armageddon isn't having a game. 01:28:22.460 --> 01:28:24.420 Yeah, there's nothing. 01:28:24.420 --> 01:28:29.820 Another reason why do you want to go second radiance on a Doom that is this poor... 01:28:29.820 --> 01:28:33.260 Alternatively, what, Link BKB kind of thing? 01:28:33.260 --> 01:28:35.820 Some armor item like early emotes or something? 01:28:35.820 --> 01:28:37.820 Did Trump load this? 01:28:37.820 --> 01:28:38.820 Who's Lich? 01:28:38.820 --> 01:28:39.820 He disappears. 01:28:39.820 --> 01:28:41.820 He went Midas. 01:28:41.820 --> 01:28:48.820 He's locked himself into Farmo, but he's just gonna be a creep at this game for a long time without fastening melt into the minus armor. 01:28:48.820 --> 01:28:51.820 So, see a place I'm keeping money in here. 01:28:51.820 --> 01:28:54.820 It's gonna clear out the top lane, too many creeps there to ignore. 01:28:55.820 --> 01:28:57.820 Go heal, get cheeky. 01:28:57.820 --> 01:28:59.820 He's got the hookshot forward with a hard push back. 01:28:59.820 --> 01:29:02.820 Shadowfiend offering a lot of right clicks. 01:29:02.820 --> 01:29:06.820 All the hurricane trying to get him out of there, but they've got the final touch. 01:29:06.820 --> 01:29:08.820 That was almost so safe from the farm. 01:29:08.820 --> 01:29:10.820 Now they got a jump crush, they saw the doom. 01:29:10.820 --> 01:29:12.820 Dogmonger just keeps it going. 01:29:12.820 --> 01:29:16.820 Immediately entering this top jungle with the Frank Frog. 01:29:16.820 --> 01:29:21.820 They're playing really well. They're crossing the map super fast, abusing this Slardar River movement. 01:29:21.820 --> 01:29:25.820 Just continuing to punch this Doom 0 and 5. 01:29:25.820 --> 01:29:29.820 He almost makes a sick hurricane play to bail out his life stealer, but... 01:29:29.820 --> 01:29:35.820 Playtime, continuing to find openings here. That's another tower for the SF. They are just running this map right now. 01:29:35.820 --> 01:29:39.820 Wherever you look, there's some plays I'm hearing right next to Slardar. 01:29:39.820 --> 01:29:45.960 Slardar blink clockwork hoodwink is always waiting the trees to go the frog backing them up as he waddles into fight 01:29:48.020 --> 01:29:50.420 Tempest keep picking up as falcons 01:29:50.420 --> 01:29:53.420 I guess they want to try and slow things down right radiance is a farming item 01:29:53.420 --> 01:29:56.900 They want to try and scale this life stealer. You said might as well do that's looking for later 01:29:57.220 --> 01:30:04.580 So now it's one literally big pango looking at this diffusel pango nearly at blink thinking do I want to go and fight really? 01:30:04.580 --> 01:30:12.700 They're strong if that kill squad can start on somebody, like if they can ever start on 01:30:12.700 --> 01:30:17.780 the slaughter or the Largo and just roll in with the pango, throw out their nukes. 01:30:17.780 --> 01:30:19.020 That type of fight can be good for them. 01:30:19.020 --> 01:30:23.140 They do have an item flying out for the rubik, it's an early 4 staff, it's Crit's Choice 01:30:23.140 --> 01:30:25.700 and that big ancient staff finished up Blink on the pango. 01:30:25.700 --> 01:30:29.780 So a lot more mobility for Falcons to kind of look for plays now with. 01:30:29.780 --> 01:30:32.660 But this is just going to be AFK duty for this Doom Life Stealer. 01:30:32.660 --> 01:30:36.880 I guess Skeeter can get involved. He can look for some infest opportunities now that you've played on the mango. 01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:37.880 That's true. 01:30:37.880 --> 01:30:44.880 I get these instant disables where the left of the SNES to gays definitely catch someone, blows them up. 01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:48.380 Playtime not giving them any targets though. 01:30:48.380 --> 01:30:54.380 They feel that this is the losing falcons that's going to be made, so they tighten up, bloody system in effect. 01:30:54.380 --> 01:30:59.380 Clockwork is up the top lane protecting the shadow fiend, then they've got this firewall in front of the ancients, 01:30:59.380 --> 01:31:02.380 So Slot I can clear out some stacks while the... 01:31:03.380 --> 01:31:07.380 The frog is out there! It's pretty tanky. It's gonna take a little bit here to kill him. 01:31:08.380 --> 01:31:11.380 I'm gonna protect him though, but we can realize this frack is just dead. 01:31:12.380 --> 01:31:15.380 Somebody was almost guaranteed to die there, either mid or top. 01:31:17.380 --> 01:31:21.380 Just not enough vision to protect everybody against that kind of move. 01:31:21.380 --> 01:31:25.380 How can they snack something big with the lifestealer involvement and you gotta get something out of that play? 01:31:25.380 --> 01:31:32.020 play. I feel like they put Frank out there on purpose. Just dump him in this mid lane. 01:31:32.020 --> 01:31:39.620 They have a streak though. So that was, you know, 460 plus. It was like 750 gold kill. 01:31:39.620 --> 01:31:44.660 Well worth it here. Sometimes that's all the room Falcons needs. 01:31:44.660 --> 01:31:50.780 Now I'm on getting a bit of gold. I have a minus level 4 devourer that's kicking in as 01:31:50.780 --> 01:31:56.540 he found the outer ring of the jungle camps starting to recover here 01:31:57.100 --> 01:32:01.260 it's got queued up I mean he always queues 01:32:01.260 --> 01:32:04.340 right now blink so we have to go out the 01:32:04.340 --> 01:32:09.140 worth looking at it or crib one literally into the middle of three of them 01:32:09.140 --> 01:32:15.460 I didn't even need to blink it could be early rush for playtime when it moves 01:32:15.460 --> 01:32:20.980 top here at the 20 minutes. On to their side they have the Sardar SF. They get 01:32:20.980 --> 01:32:25.860 tests from Falcons, looks pretty weak other than the pango going in. 01:32:25.860 --> 01:32:30.900 It's making me stranded out here while reading with the infest bomb gonna jump on 01:32:30.900 --> 01:32:34.380 the hoodwink though. Maybe we just start through the swirl and the lich actually 01:32:34.380 --> 01:32:40.140 breaks free of Frank. I'm kind of wishing they jumped the hoodwink there instead of the frog. 01:32:40.140 --> 01:32:44.380 I saw Schofield also picking up this 20-minute gem again. 01:32:44.380 --> 01:32:46.620 There's a couple of games in a row. 01:32:46.620 --> 01:32:48.780 Marko's going to give it to Maureen. 01:32:48.780 --> 01:32:51.140 He's going to throw up and the Thunder. 01:32:51.140 --> 01:32:52.140 That's the value right there. 01:32:52.140 --> 01:32:55.140 Anytime you get these rolling Thunder's down, there's just nothing for Falcons to do on 01:32:55.140 --> 01:32:56.140 the map. 01:32:56.140 --> 01:33:02.980 Yeah, last night Schofield's win ranger in game three against Bedboom bought this like 01:33:02.980 --> 01:33:03.980 90-minute gem. 01:33:03.980 --> 01:33:08.300 He's done the same thing here as the clockwork, so we're just looking for that map control 01:33:08.300 --> 01:33:10.300 Dewarding against Falcons 01:33:10.940 --> 01:33:14.020 Trolls in many areas as you can. It's an interesting concept 01:33:14.660 --> 01:33:18.140 That game I could kind of get behind it a little bit because Winranger seemed unkillable 01:33:18.140 --> 01:33:21.020 Clockwork is absolutely not an unkillable hero. Right? 01:33:22.140 --> 01:33:25.620 So if he actually enters a fight with this it's gonna be a little suspicious 01:33:25.620 --> 01:33:27.700 He's just gonna deward his side of the map put it back 01:33:29.540 --> 01:33:31.540 It's an interesting concept 01:33:31.540 --> 01:33:33.540 Give it the hoodwink maybe. 01:33:33.540 --> 01:33:35.540 Put it back in front of him. 01:33:35.540 --> 01:33:37.540 That's where they get done with it. 01:33:37.540 --> 01:33:39.540 There you go through the gate. 01:33:39.540 --> 01:33:42.540 One more time in this top left corner. 01:33:42.540 --> 01:33:44.540 You get spotted by the rocket flare. 01:33:44.540 --> 01:33:48.540 They come in with both supports. 01:33:48.540 --> 01:33:50.540 Push back at the SF jump. 01:33:50.540 --> 01:33:52.540 With his blink dagger. 01:33:52.540 --> 01:33:55.540 Alken's bleeding a lot of extra kills in this game. 01:33:55.540 --> 01:33:58.540 Just trying to get to the next round of items. 01:33:58.540 --> 01:34:05.380 Hold on to his fairganks though, and another intense form with pangor leading. 01:34:05.380 --> 01:34:10.300 Slaughter is a little out there, but he's not tanky. 01:34:10.300 --> 01:34:12.300 Tanky boy with haste in the bottle right now. 01:34:12.300 --> 01:34:15.300 Can't really go for this play. 01:34:15.300 --> 01:34:17.300 He's going to find some support, Snipe. 01:34:17.300 --> 01:34:18.300 The hoodwink again. 01:34:18.300 --> 01:34:20.300 No, they jump on Slaughter. 01:34:20.300 --> 01:34:22.300 Yeah, push whacked up though. 01:34:22.300 --> 01:34:25.300 Look at this pangor there. 01:34:25.300 --> 01:34:31.600 Playtime, great discipline with how they fold back, reset, now they look for that second go as they've all gathered their forces again. 01:34:32.600 --> 01:34:38.600 Falcon's getting the other lanes out, so this play just creates some space. It's all space for ATF Doom. 01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:45.300 Now has a blink dagger, so you can get a little more involved in the fight, blink Doom a target if it starts instead of having to react. 01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:47.300 It changes a lot for him. 01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:50.800 And they might win the DD? No, Dark Mato there first. 01:34:50.800 --> 01:34:52.800 Still gonna roll in, straight on to Frank. 01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:58.800 Doom on the slaughter as well. Falcon suddenly flipped the switch and they're on this. Darklock has slaughtered off and sliced him down. 01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:04.800 Amar giving the kill. Frank is getting chased by Skid up, but if I push back, don't keep the life stealer away. 01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:08.800 From the trove. I don't know if it's done yet though, because Amar is pretty speedy. 01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:13.800 Sprinting forward with another hurricane. Play this time dragging him back in. 01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:15.800 Down you go. 01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:19.800 He's stolen Infimby and Rhapsody doing a little bit of work there. 01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:26.800 The Rubik comes into play and Amar, he just might just blink, finds his doom target that's the power of the hero, even if you're behind. 01:35:26.800 --> 01:35:28.800 Your spells just don't work. 01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:34.800 It completely debilitates Dark Mago, they got a little greedy going for that amp damage, they pay a big price with Double Core. 01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:42.800 It's still just crazy how Falcons can find these little moves that level the playing field, and just put their thumb on the scale. 01:35:42.800 --> 01:35:45.800 Okay, all your early aggression doesn't mean that much. 01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:50.800 One K lead, nothing, a pitly amount, 23 minutes in. 01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:58.800 The one thing it did is it produced a gap for this SF, against everybody else's DM, which is where you want the Shadow Fiend. 01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:06.800 If you can put an Aegis on him right now, abuse the fact there's no rolling Thunder available to contest, no Doom available to contest. 01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:12.800 This is where you can use Beast Translate, some of that early advantage into scaling advantage here. 01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:18.200 Absolutely the right play call, but you're going to have to use this around that. 01:36:18.200 --> 01:36:21.320 Because you're not going to be able to force high grounders, it's crazy, you're super early 01:36:21.320 --> 01:36:22.320 on in this game. 01:36:22.320 --> 01:36:27.320 So you're going to have to find a way to either constrict Falcons or just kill them. 01:36:27.320 --> 01:36:30.800 Gem will do some work here, they get both D-Wards. 01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:34.520 So that is all vision off the map for Falcons. 01:36:34.520 --> 01:36:36.520 And I see anything. 01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:40.760 I've been spawned on the Aegis, so Dotmogger can keep playing aggressively. 01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:44.680 That means the Shadowfiend has the potential to get jumped and killed. 01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:46.480 They just finished Lincoln's on the Largo. 01:36:46.480 --> 01:36:50.320 It's pretty big here, especially if Frank can get a shard, he'll have double Lincoln's 01:36:50.320 --> 01:36:51.320 vs the Doom. 01:36:51.320 --> 01:36:54.920 It's super nice, just early in the game. 01:36:54.920 --> 01:36:58.720 Charging straight across the map, Shadowfiend sees the Lich. 01:36:58.720 --> 01:37:04.680 A bit of distance though, and Schofield, he's got the Hookshot character, that's where they 01:37:04.680 --> 01:37:06.920 were with El Misho. 01:37:06.920 --> 01:37:08.920 Nice view though. He got shot. 01:37:10.920 --> 01:37:12.920 That's corrosive Haze is no joke. 01:37:14.920 --> 01:37:16.920 Label 2 slot, RLT. 01:37:16.920 --> 01:37:18.920 Hoodwick Acorn shot. 01:37:18.920 --> 01:37:20.920 Just right-clicks from El Miso, doesn't half. 01:37:20.920 --> 01:37:22.920 Chain's done into oblivion. 01:37:22.920 --> 01:37:25.920 Hookshot, cogs, bushwhack in the bash. 01:37:26.920 --> 01:37:28.920 It's kind of interesting that Skeeter went for this armlet. 01:37:28.920 --> 01:37:31.920 Because I feel like Falcons were put in a position where you're just trying to 01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:35.920 scale into the ultralight with how slow the team's game was. 01:37:36.920 --> 01:37:40.600 It is extra armor, so there's some decent value for it here. 01:37:42.280 --> 01:37:47.160 I just wonder how many fights or how much farm efficiency he's going to get out of this armor. 01:37:48.040 --> 01:37:49.240 He just didn't get to play the game. 01:37:51.160 --> 01:37:52.120 Nice chance of toggling. 01:37:53.080 --> 01:37:56.520 This is playtime's map to run right now during this ages period. 01:37:58.920 --> 01:38:02.440 So Farth is going to try and find some ways to cut the waves. 01:38:04.360 --> 01:38:05.240 Playkeep away. 01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:09.920 The following is a pretty good job down on that bottom lane. 01:38:10.920 --> 01:38:14.920 Gather up what farm they can on the way back to as their tier 2's in the base. 01:38:14.920 --> 01:38:17.920 That means Scopield have just wide open map. 01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:19.920 Hook shot in, blow up snaking. 01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:22.920 And he has just been holding this gem. 01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:26.920 Scopield 1, 4 and 4 theme. 01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:28.920 Turn around. 01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:31.920 Done some real solid work this game. 01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:34.920 He just knows where they are, he's keeping trying all the time. 01:38:34.920 --> 01:38:36.440 They're kind of far off their nations. 01:38:36.440 --> 01:38:37.720 Does not see them, though. 01:38:39.220 --> 01:38:42.440 I thought we had a soul raid on them, but Doc Mako, he's half-paggered there. 01:38:42.440 --> 01:38:43.160 Look at that! 01:38:43.160 --> 01:38:44.280 Paul Rean disappears! 01:38:44.280 --> 01:38:45.480 These rocket players are... 01:38:46.120 --> 01:38:47.960 really doing some work in this game. 01:38:51.800 --> 01:38:53.160 Doc is just blind blind. 01:38:53.160 --> 01:38:55.720 Like, they're trying to split the map far on their way back in this game. 01:38:55.720 --> 01:38:57.800 They did it up going double ratings here. 01:38:58.600 --> 01:39:00.520 Just so greedy in a way. 01:39:00.520 --> 01:39:03.320 You might as ratings do me a free and slight stealer. 01:39:04.920 --> 01:39:11.040 It just feels a little too one-dimensional in the itemization here, and you're gonna 01:39:11.040 --> 01:39:17.000 get really punished by any sort of sustain or survivability coming out for playtime, 01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:19.480 which generally Largo gets to at a certain point. 01:39:19.480 --> 01:39:24.920 So Frank's gonna give, especially when he hits that negative center. 01:39:24.920 --> 01:39:25.920 Another jump. 01:39:25.920 --> 01:39:26.920 We should whack off the mark, though. 01:39:26.920 --> 01:39:30.920 This thing can be thankful to get to his high ground and stay alive. 01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:39.000 I don't have any situation, and none of these direcores have positive KDAs, you're not just 01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:41.000 getting crushed and pushed back. 01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:47.000 I'm not going to try and wriggle as I'm going into this left-hand side of the map, it's 01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:50.000 might have an additional bit of farm that otherwise wouldn't be gathered. 01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:54.960 That's one of the things when you do group up as five, you play time with these ages, 01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:59.720 playing tight, looking for all the tier twos, you're not able to play all three lanes at 01:39:59.720 --> 01:40:04.880 same time. I'm just collecting objectives right now. It's totally fine. Your next 01:40:04.880 --> 01:40:08.560 Roshan is going to be a high ground on this game. You're going to put the screws into 01:40:08.560 --> 01:40:12.520 this Falcon's lineup and really put them in a position where yeah you have a lot of 01:40:12.520 --> 01:40:17.000 network but what is it actually doing in the fight? Right now it's not doing nearly 01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:24.680 as much. That's just like doubling his Largo, Harpoon, Slardar, this SMB is going to have another 50 01:40:24.680 --> 01:40:26.680 I'm a joker 01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:28.680 Let's go feel nearly had him 01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:33.040 Clear a little bit too quick with the force and the blink without way time August will come in though 01:40:33.320 --> 01:40:35.320 They're gonna catch him on the way through 01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:37.960 No escaping that lane ward 01:40:38.720 --> 01:40:44.140 Season they just have great vision. They've been de-wording everything with our good school. We still just run around with his genus 01:40:44.140 --> 01:40:49.240 I'm tired with it. This is 20 minute gem pick up. She's so good. He's going second item hats 01:40:49.240 --> 01:40:54.040 What that is just insane. He just plays his own game brown boots blink 01:40:54.680 --> 01:40:56.680 Gemhack's clockwork. 01:40:56.680 --> 01:40:58.920 Don't do this in your pubs. It will not work out. 01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:00.520 Not even a jetpack or nothing! 01:41:00.520 --> 01:41:03.000 No, he just wants to catch him disabled. 01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:04.280 He knows his role in this game. 01:41:05.080 --> 01:41:05.960 This is his hero. 01:41:06.600 --> 01:41:08.520 I'm just gonna find that Ward 2. 01:41:08.520 --> 01:41:09.400 Just knows everything. 01:41:10.920 --> 01:41:11.960 He's in zone. 01:41:11.960 --> 01:41:13.640 He is just purely in zone right now. 01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:16.040 Flare state activated. 01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:17.800 A thousand percent. 01:41:18.840 --> 01:41:21.480 Now, he's just gonna expire, but yeah, the map, they got on the map. 01:41:21.480 --> 01:41:22.440 Over 4k lead. 01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:24.360 Crumbling all these objectives. 01:41:24.360 --> 01:41:31.060 Only one Tier 2 tower is still standing up at top, and the important thing, Falcons just haven't been able to bite back at all. 01:41:31.460 --> 01:41:33.660 They've been sitting and waiting, hoping for some... 01:41:34.060 --> 01:41:38.060 Hoping for some classic SA blunder where it's all the two aggressive, they've gone diving in. 01:41:38.060 --> 01:41:42.960 This has been super disciplined, really slick play from playtime through this lower bracket. 01:41:43.260 --> 01:41:43.860 They've... 01:41:44.860 --> 01:41:45.660 They're very tight. 01:41:45.860 --> 01:41:48.860 They're confident in their strategy, and everyone's playing to their role. 01:41:48.860 --> 01:41:55.860 When you see teams play like this, it's hard to find a opening or a weakness. 01:41:55.860 --> 01:42:00.860 It's frantic scribbling. 01:42:00.860 --> 01:42:04.860 Playtime knows exactly where Falcons are sat. 01:42:04.860 --> 01:42:07.860 No one's showing up at top lane, no one's going over the observable boards. 01:42:07.860 --> 01:42:10.860 Mid lane's pretty free for Dark Margaret to push. 01:42:10.860 --> 01:42:15.860 So they know it's not Angel's area, and the Rocket Flare's going to keep scouting them. 01:42:15.860 --> 01:42:21.860 Let's go Fueled, level 15, gonna start his move over. 01:42:21.860 --> 01:42:25.860 I think Falcons know this is coming. 01:42:25.860 --> 01:42:33.860 30 minutes in, this is a very important fight to decide if you're gonna stand and fight back or just disengage and run. 01:42:33.860 --> 01:42:37.860 That's gonna be the former, unless they thought they had a go. 01:42:37.860 --> 01:42:39.860 Falcons been grouped here for a while. 01:42:39.860 --> 01:42:44.860 She's expecting the move to come into them. Play some fun, giving it up. 01:42:45.860 --> 01:42:49.360 Happy to continue to farm this SF, great this carry gap. 01:42:53.860 --> 01:42:56.360 And now they feel forced to make an actual move themselves? 01:42:56.360 --> 01:43:00.860 Awkward time to do it, there's no Roche for another minute, there's no mid tower to get. 01:43:00.860 --> 01:43:03.360 You're just looking for the fight straight up. 01:43:04.360 --> 01:43:06.360 They should have BKB on Amar. 01:43:06.860 --> 01:43:09.360 Could do a lot more sustain in the fight. 01:43:09.360 --> 01:43:16.360 Shadowfiend though, he's straight on to Cret, jump in towards Lich, and throw the Doom down on him, but the back-up's coming. 01:43:16.360 --> 01:43:22.360 Rolling Thunder crashes out the way, it's trying to force him away, but he gets Frank back up to the frog and now taken down by Falcons. 01:43:22.360 --> 01:43:26.360 That's all you're not worth down the drain, so if you're being hunted by the Doom on the left-hand side, 01:43:26.360 --> 01:43:30.360 I'll need you trying to break free with some damage poking him on the back. 01:43:30.360 --> 01:43:34.360 Meanwhile, Frank, he's been gobbled up, Skitter and Maureen hard as tail. 01:43:34.360 --> 01:43:40.360 The frog's coming in to try and help that buddy, but not even the congregations of the deep can stop Frack from dying. 01:43:40.360 --> 01:43:45.360 And Falcons, this 30 minute move, it pays off for them big time. 01:43:45.360 --> 01:43:53.360 Big Doom connection there. Just not enough sustain for the SSF to sit in the fight, they can't destroy them out of there. 01:43:53.360 --> 01:44:00.360 Amar finds his mark in this one. It's a big kill to snag before this roach spawn. 01:44:00.360 --> 01:44:05.360 And before Doc Morrow had BKB, he just finished it. He did not have it for that fight. 01:44:05.360 --> 01:44:08.360 Now he's going head to head with the Maureen Pango. 01:44:08.360 --> 01:44:10.360 Look at those clocks coming in to help out. 01:44:10.360 --> 01:44:12.360 That's why they're having to just get walloped. 01:44:12.360 --> 01:44:17.360 Fly Maureen and Crit, and get, you know, the comms that the Fadeball finishes him off. 01:44:17.360 --> 01:44:19.360 Now, Doc Morrow with a couple of taps out of the bash. 01:44:19.360 --> 01:44:21.360 Crave for the full staff, lifting him up. 01:44:21.360 --> 01:44:25.360 Trying to put him high ground, go close to Maureen, but BKB up for Doc Morrow, 01:44:25.360 --> 01:44:27.360 chase for what skitters and fasts doesn't help him out enough. 01:44:27.360 --> 01:44:30.640 Wow, enough! Now I'm a little stuck in the fight, though. 01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:32.000 Get and recover Gem off that. 01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:35.440 That's why Dark Mago's committee for that kill, he wanted to steal Pat from the Rubik. 01:44:36.160 --> 01:44:41.760 We'll recover that little mini-objective here, but playtime bleeding some heroes. 01:44:43.280 --> 01:44:44.960 This lead is just dwindling. 01:44:44.960 --> 01:44:46.480 They really need the Largo-Aggs. 01:44:46.480 --> 01:44:50.240 I think Franky lived for a long time in that fight, but he's just not doing much. 01:44:51.120 --> 01:44:54.000 From a purely survival standpoint, until that Aggs is done. 01:44:55.120 --> 01:44:57.200 Can't really help his SF too much either. 01:44:57.360 --> 01:45:00.360 Double lick would go along my in this game. 01:45:00.360 --> 01:45:03.360 You have double link and double lick. 01:45:03.360 --> 01:45:05.360 There's your counter doom play. 01:45:05.360 --> 01:45:07.360 Maybe you can destroy it a bit better. 01:45:07.360 --> 01:45:09.360 Reset this SFX position. 01:45:12.360 --> 01:45:14.360 It didn't feel good with SFX. 01:45:14.360 --> 01:45:17.360 Just finding the rubik, getting that kill, blinking in. 01:45:17.360 --> 01:45:19.360 But then you are exposed to getting jumped and doomed. 01:45:19.360 --> 01:45:21.360 There's a really aggressive blink. 01:45:23.360 --> 01:45:26.360 I'm not exposed to that opportunity perfectly. 01:45:27.360 --> 01:45:32.360 Chloe, now we're back into the game, there's only Falcons know how. 01:45:32.360 --> 01:45:37.360 This game is going to get scary for playtime if another round of items come out. 01:45:37.360 --> 01:45:43.360 If you can get to some armor items or even pango basher here, life stealer, epistle. 01:45:43.360 --> 01:45:47.360 These BKB piercing disables are really tough for SF to play into. 01:45:47.360 --> 01:45:51.360 He needs that window to really deal the big damage. 01:45:51.360 --> 01:45:55.360 As well as, you know, if you're trying to reset positions against Doom and you have extra lockdown, 01:45:55.360 --> 01:45:58.480 down. You can't just BKB run away. It makes a large difference. 01:45:58.480 --> 01:46:01.800 Nullifier already done for the life stealer that produces some of the 01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:02.760 kind ability here. 01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:07.040 Scaring infest bomb. 01:46:07.640 --> 01:46:09.440 Next unit of the way to try to push this lane. 01:46:12.800 --> 01:46:13.280 He's out of there. 01:46:13.720 --> 01:46:14.760 Back into the forest. 01:46:16.200 --> 01:46:18.920 I guess I give time for playtime to go to a mentor. 01:46:21.880 --> 01:46:23.720 Quick we take that out. Get the shard for Wits. 01:46:25.360 --> 01:46:32.200 I can accept to finally complete on Frank line-ups online still looking for that 01:46:32.200 --> 01:46:38.400 level 20 talent but the Lord goes there need to get another item on on wits before 01:46:38.400 --> 01:46:44.120 the next Rochon brawl he has 4400 gold he loves to be able to buy out data was 01:46:44.120 --> 01:46:46.360 here 01:46:47.240 --> 01:46:52.680 thinking about it they have hex on Scofield was done they found two more 01:46:52.680 --> 01:46:59.080 D words this gem has already paid for itself in spades I don't know Falcons 01:46:59.080 --> 01:47:02.480 are gonna be ready for this. He blinks in and just hexes the team or something to 01:47:02.480 --> 01:47:05.960 start the fight because you don't beat you be early you're not expecting this 01:47:05.960 --> 01:47:10.520 item. Hex of a Requiem on the pango or something? Yeah it really could pay off 01:47:10.520 --> 01:47:19.760 big here. Smoking to smoke. And yo's not in it. Playtime Gathrock in that mid lane 01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:26.400 on the dire side, all the way around behind. Their scan not turning red, so they're actually 01:47:26.400 --> 01:47:31.520 able to take this high ground area. And the inverted standoff around the roach pit. 01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:38.560 Falcons trying to farm this spot as they stand atop the staircase. 01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:42.560 Life still is still infested as they re-smoke just before that rocket flag comes in. 01:47:44.560 --> 01:47:49.040 The timing may be the attempt now on the splardar as they jump straight in, 01:47:49.040 --> 01:47:55.600 Pop the Lincolns and now the dooms, canister gays, dark margo, and he's gone, retreat time. 01:47:55.600 --> 01:47:58.640 A blind back from dark margo, they're wanting to continue this fight with a blink, 01:47:58.640 --> 01:48:03.280 Frank, we have wound up, Witt is in there, wrong, nearly dead, but doesn't get finished off, 01:48:03.280 --> 01:48:07.120 and his blind back from the slaughter has got the pay off, trying to get forward to the bkb, 01:48:07.120 --> 01:48:11.760 double tap on the lich, takes him out, the pango and lich both down, and fires to the side, 01:48:11.760 --> 01:48:15.600 but you'll step to through the rage, doesn't have to skyward for a moment, that allows the 01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:20.600 the bush back now to come in. A crush followed through. On playtime, they're chasing this one. 01:48:20.600 --> 01:48:24.600 Kid is in trouble with the corrosive heads on it so they play and raise them, find the kill. 01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:28.600 Life's still a life-feeling, but not enough. Rocky Flag gets vision now and helps me sure. 01:48:28.600 --> 01:48:31.600 Just dives under the doom. They know they've got that chance. 01:48:31.600 --> 01:48:36.600 So much chase, so much catch with the double blink dagger support. 01:48:36.600 --> 01:48:39.600 And Dark Boggo, he's just beating up the whole time. 01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:44.600 Absolutely happy to buy back into raiding outposts there in a river of play. 01:48:44.600 --> 01:48:46.600 No wave or falcons is the same. 01:48:47.400 --> 01:48:52.280 The damage output after the doom is thrown out. Yeah, you get your one target, but what about the teamfight overall? 01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:58.840 Playtime with a perfect read of the situation there to get Roshan off this on top of a full teamfight 01:48:59.320 --> 01:49:02.760 has to feeling huge damage there off the requiem in the middle of everybody. 01:49:03.560 --> 01:49:06.040 Don't forget the banner and the pit, but they got everything they came for. 01:49:08.280 --> 01:49:12.280 You can go toe-to-toe with the SF, but not one of your everyone else. 01:49:12.280 --> 01:49:15.080 Easy pickings of the end. 01:49:15.080 --> 01:49:18.800 The thing is, the slaughter was so tanky the second round, like, yeah, he dies to Doom 01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:23.480 Nullifier, you know, the first time, anyone's going to die to that, but that second fight 01:49:23.480 --> 01:49:27.240 where Falcons try to kind of re-go on Dark Morrow, he's still at BKB, and just tanked 01:49:27.240 --> 01:49:30.960 so much. 01:49:30.960 --> 01:49:31.960 That was spooky. 01:49:31.960 --> 01:49:34.960 That's one of those moments of the game where your Falcons are like, oh, shit. 01:49:34.960 --> 01:49:35.960 How does the next one go? 01:49:35.960 --> 01:49:42.240 This game is going to be hard, because that's kind of the only way you can take a fight. 01:49:42.240 --> 01:49:46.240 is that you go in, you doom one of the cores, you bring them down, 01:49:47.040 --> 01:49:50.240 and if the fight's still at that, after that, well, what is the alternative? 01:49:50.240 --> 01:49:53.740 It's like, we executed our jump perfectly. 01:49:53.740 --> 01:49:57.240 We popped the link, we put the doom on, we got the go. 01:49:57.240 --> 01:49:59.240 One buyback is undoes it all. 01:49:59.240 --> 01:50:01.240 Yeah, that's sometimes the problem with these doom liners. 01:50:01.240 --> 01:50:06.240 If you don't have enough sustain damage, if your tricor can't sit in the middle of the fight and take your heads up, 01:50:07.240 --> 01:50:08.240 you run into big trouble. 01:50:08.240 --> 01:50:11.240 That's where you just need the next set of items here. 01:50:11.240 --> 01:50:16.440 needs some more armor, some more ways to get rid of this Slaughterhand, but he's already almost level 25, honestly. 01:50:16.440 --> 01:50:20.640 So you might have undispellable Haze before you even have a Lotus or anything in this game. 01:50:21.640 --> 01:50:23.640 It'll just be brutal for these cores. 01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:27.960 Trying as quick as they can to get the ship as good as all of your ass. 01:50:29.160 --> 01:50:31.160 Hang up. 01:50:31.960 --> 01:50:37.720 I just don't know if it's gonna matter. I mean, we're sitting on SF with, you know, full 28 Necromastery souls. 01:50:37.720 --> 01:50:43.720 he already has Daedalus. He's approaching 25 as well. These are just such massive 25 talents. 01:50:45.320 --> 01:50:48.440 So you're gonna have undisputable Hayes, you're gonna have Shadow Rays dealing damage, 01:50:48.440 --> 01:50:52.200 he's gonna be critting off it. Like, if you end up in a similar situation like that against 01:50:52.200 --> 01:50:56.120 these 25 talents, you're gonna be absolutely massacred in the fight. You're gonna get shard, 01:50:56.120 --> 01:51:01.720 crush, amp on two or three cores into Reflium Shadow Rays' critting you, like, the fight's done. 01:51:01.720 --> 01:51:05.000 So... Especially when your teamfight is not playing someone. 01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:12.840 Yeah, you're doing them. Okay, we're all gathered up with route. Yeah, it's a triple melee lineup that has to close the gap has to sit in there 01:51:12.920 --> 01:51:14.920 deal the right clicks 01:51:15.840 --> 01:51:19.440 Just got flattened I do have the AC they do have the shiva's 01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:26.800 And the bash on the lights do I mean this is a big item timing for Falcons and trying to deal with what playtime are proposing 01:51:26.800 --> 01:51:29.120 But you probably need to weigh out ages here 01:51:29.120 --> 01:51:35.120 So it's a question if your playtime gets a goal for the 25s during this ages period would be really nice for that. 01:51:35.120 --> 01:51:37.120 Another rocket flare though, skill field. 01:51:37.120 --> 01:51:39.120 Now for the pango, hookshot into hex. 01:51:39.120 --> 01:51:41.120 I think if the kill'n just supports. 01:51:41.120 --> 01:51:45.120 Ah, not quite. It's pretty close but he gets off the roll, they lose the lich. 01:51:45.120 --> 01:51:49.120 Now the roll out but he's got no TP because he already spent it. 01:51:49.120 --> 01:51:51.120 Now just keep on chasing this one. 01:51:51.120 --> 01:51:53.120 I don't know if he'll get out of this. 01:51:53.120 --> 01:51:57.120 The Yule's chapter, that's gonna catch him on the way down but he's got another squash buckle. 01:51:57.120 --> 01:52:02.680 The creep wave blocks the hookshot, and now Rain barely gets back to space, surviving it. 01:52:02.680 --> 01:52:08.880 Wait a bit at boomerang range, it's very close, but shows you the chase power they have while Rain's lucky to get out. 01:52:08.880 --> 01:52:10.080 That's a rolling thunder. 01:52:11.400 --> 01:52:13.880 Get hella back to trying to keep that one. 01:52:13.880 --> 01:52:19.720 That skit is just madly trying to push top, push mid, send illusions, try and do what you can, because you know the playtime are coming. 01:52:21.120 --> 01:52:21.680 Just another... 01:52:21.680 --> 01:52:23.200 ...orcs are just still rich. 01:52:24.040 --> 01:52:26.200 It's gonna be a Linkin's on a help me show. 01:52:27.120 --> 01:52:32.120 The load is for Skullfield? I mean, they're gonna mess with these Doomcasts a lot. 01:52:36.120 --> 01:52:39.120 There's the 25 for the Shadow Fiend. So the raised talent online... 01:52:41.120 --> 01:52:43.120 It's gonna add a lot more firepower here. 01:52:44.120 --> 01:52:46.120 Is the Doomaxe... 01:52:47.120 --> 01:52:52.120 I don't think so. Not against the Largo. We've seen it before. You go in with this AOE Doom and Largo just licks people out of it. 01:52:52.120 --> 01:52:53.120 Yeah. 01:52:53.120 --> 01:52:55.120 You can destroy it with all the extra movespeed. 01:52:55.120 --> 01:52:56.960 Amar, he's thinking about Abyssal himself. 01:52:56.960 --> 01:52:59.320 I think he's gearing up to just take the man fight. 01:52:59.920 --> 01:53:05.820 That's gonna be real tough, but if you double Abyssal Bash or Pango, maybe it's enough in the long run? 01:53:08.620 --> 01:53:09.820 It's a bold idea. 01:53:10.320 --> 01:53:11.820 You're cat-up against the SF. 01:53:12.120 --> 01:53:13.420 I'm gonna find the hoodwink. 01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:15.620 Can I still take a life? 01:53:16.020 --> 01:53:17.320 At least you get something here. 01:53:18.020 --> 01:53:21.420 And for the first time this game, it feels like they've actually got vision on the map. 01:53:21.420 --> 01:53:25.900 They'll see Skofiel come back and de-wall on the ops wall, but that gives them the information. 01:53:25.900 --> 01:53:31.900 Amar and Snaking will jump onto Skofiel and try and get this gem, but he hooks shots all the way over to the creepway. 01:53:31.900 --> 01:53:33.820 Oh my god, this guy's so annoying. 01:53:33.820 --> 01:53:35.020 He can't catch him. 01:53:35.020 --> 01:53:38.060 Lifestealer's trying to get there, but now a blink crush from Dark Margo. 01:53:38.060 --> 01:53:39.420 They knew the chase was on. 01:53:39.420 --> 01:53:41.660 Forced to the defense and BKB out of the doom. 01:53:41.660 --> 01:53:44.780 Forced into the high ground, but now the Snaking. 01:53:44.780 --> 01:53:49.180 Now Lifestealer is a bit aggressive there. Forcing plate to them back. 01:53:49.180 --> 01:53:52.380 It's still at ages for 10 seconds, just not to fight doctors. 01:53:52.380 --> 01:53:57.480 They're looking for a quick pick-off on SF, maybe a BKB TP out or something before Slaughter gets there, right? 01:53:57.980 --> 01:54:01.480 It's risky to go for these offensive moves when they have close shot that have Slaughter or stun. 01:54:01.480 --> 01:54:03.480 You can't really disengage through teleport. 01:54:05.780 --> 01:54:06.780 I'm gonna keep the gem. 01:54:07.580 --> 01:54:09.080 Sturkel still has it. 01:54:09.280 --> 01:54:11.080 They should get the Slaughter at 25. 01:54:13.380 --> 01:54:15.380 I'm looking for impactful talent in this game. 01:54:15.380 --> 01:54:17.780 Oh, Slaughter, hey, that's big, you can get out with it. 01:54:17.780 --> 01:54:21.620 I don't know if he is though, look at the damage, his onslaught spread on Rubik! 01:54:21.860 --> 01:54:26.700 Clockwise gonna pull though, as the life-throw panger that come in to try and defend this mid lane! 01:54:27.180 --> 01:54:30.540 BKB's out from the rest of playtime, spending it to reset! 01:54:30.900 --> 01:54:33.900 And now thinking about another move with Blink killing off Cooldown on Slaughter, 01:54:33.900 --> 01:54:35.580 pulling in with a little bit of vision. 01:54:36.860 --> 01:54:38.860 Fuckens wisely step back. 01:54:39.500 --> 01:54:41.020 They did get chill out of that? 01:54:41.580 --> 01:54:46.820 Who got it? Oh yeah, he's on the Lich Courier, so they do win it out from Scofield eventually, but that just paid for itself. 01:54:47.780 --> 01:54:54.400 So minor victory here and full abyssal nullifier on the slice dealer pretty obnoxious to go into 01:55:00.680 --> 01:55:02.680 But there's your slaughter 25 so 01:55:03.220 --> 01:55:06.200 Your palakas are gonna have to play against these two really obnoxious talents 01:55:06.200 --> 01:55:10.120 And they're gonna have a bunch of load of swords and Lincoln spears to try and get the doom through on 01:55:11.920 --> 01:55:15.000 You get another Roshan here is playtime you can try and end the game with it 01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:22.000 They're just going to be insanely tanky, and if the BKB on the Largo also almost level 25, 01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:27.000 you have a 4400 HP Slaughter. 01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:31.000 Darth Mago is just a beast. 01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:35.000 And I think he really likes going these kind of hybrid builds, like it's not a true hard carry Slaughter, 01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:39.000 it's not a, like, ag sit there tank Slaughter, it's kind of something in the middle. 01:55:39.000 --> 01:55:43.000 He has some decent offensive potential, decent defensive potential. 01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:48.560 He's okay getting jumped. He's also okay. Just if they jump over that stuff, I'm gonna try and just kill people in the fight 01:55:49.320 --> 01:55:51.320 Kind of like it in this position 01:55:55.640 --> 01:56:02.120 And they bought another gem instilling so go feel it's just not messing around in the vision department. All right, that's how important is 01:56:03.400 --> 01:56:06.120 Keep with safe to the power of vision 01:56:06.120 --> 01:56:11.880 Falcon is trying to get this Aghanim Scepter up on Lifestealer, so maybe he can invest 01:56:11.880 --> 01:56:15.240 in the Shadow Fiend while a bit of time in these fights when he does get jumped. 01:56:15.240 --> 01:56:20.240 But it doesn't have that disarm factor that we used to see against the SS in the Terrablades. 01:56:20.240 --> 01:56:21.240 Yeah, which is super cool. 01:56:21.240 --> 01:56:22.240 No one here is good. 01:56:22.240 --> 01:56:26.240 It looks like let's map that first point of contact. 01:56:26.240 --> 01:56:30.600 There's the smoke from playtime, rocket flare right on top of Crick, but he already got 01:56:30.600 --> 01:56:31.600 the blink back. 01:56:31.600 --> 01:56:35.440 Dark Margo, chasing deep here on the dyeside of the map. 01:56:35.440 --> 01:56:38.680 Mastaf's gonna get on the lift though, blow him up with a 1200 crit. 01:56:38.680 --> 01:56:41.700 The hookshot misses because crit stands in the staircase. 01:56:41.700 --> 01:56:43.040 TP's home. 01:56:44.740 --> 01:56:46.740 Okay, let's see what this roast spawn is. 01:56:46.740 --> 01:56:47.860 15 seconds. 01:56:48.740 --> 01:56:50.740 I think playtime are instantly gonna do it. 01:56:51.700 --> 01:56:53.820 Falcons are not safe right there to contest it. 01:56:53.820 --> 01:56:55.740 They're gonna torment Earth in the meantime. 01:56:55.740 --> 01:56:56.860 There's your jetpack. 01:56:58.700 --> 01:57:01.200 Speed away so they just kill these objectives off though. 01:57:01.600 --> 01:57:03.600 It's insane. 01:57:03.600 --> 01:57:05.600 Their lineup is basically peaking right now. 01:57:05.600 --> 01:57:07.600 This is as good as it gets. 01:57:07.600 --> 01:57:09.600 You have everything you could ever want. 01:57:09.600 --> 01:57:11.600 With these five heroes. 01:57:11.600 --> 01:57:13.600 Pretty quick Roche spawn. 01:57:13.600 --> 01:57:15.600 It's 1130 seconds, but it doesn't mean night time Roche. 01:57:15.600 --> 01:57:18.600 A little awkward just switch sides here. 01:57:18.600 --> 01:57:21.600 Delays it a little bit, gives Falcons more time to react. 01:57:21.600 --> 01:57:23.600 Or at least look for a play opportunity. 01:57:23.600 --> 01:57:25.600 The thing is, buyback status. 01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:29.600 There's only one for play time right now, and it's the Shadow Fiend. 01:57:29.600 --> 01:57:36.680 Because normally in these road situations especially against doom or these all-in lineups you can just hold buybacks like even if the fight goes a little wrong 01:57:36.680 --> 01:57:41.840 Like we saw earlier. Okay, you just buy the core they doom and then that fight is way more comfortable 01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:45.360 But they're only sitting on shadow feet by maybe they'll have Largo by 01:57:47.360 --> 01:57:51.680 Largo but why he should have it it's pretty close. So maybe you can dangle him a little bit 01:57:52.720 --> 01:57:55.000 He's also level 25 now. So 01:57:55.000 --> 01:58:02.000 So, they had 3 cores with some of the best 25,000, all just super packed in here. 01:58:02.000 --> 01:58:07.680 They're a little bit sad we don't see these enchanted baubles, I saw the doom, I was thinking 01:58:07.680 --> 01:58:15.000 about one, but, going for items from here and now, the idol of Spreeok. 01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:17.360 It's fucking nice. 01:58:17.360 --> 01:58:22.200 Spought the Roshan spawn in the pit, down south, kind of surprised playtime were not 01:58:22.200 --> 01:58:23.200 grouped for that. 01:58:23.200 --> 01:58:25.200 That could have gone a lot worse for them. 01:58:25.200 --> 01:58:27.700 The Falcons made a decisive move. They have a fresher pango. 01:58:27.700 --> 01:58:29.700 They have a lot more firepower to work with. 01:58:29.700 --> 01:58:31.700 The Hags on the Waste Dealer. 01:58:33.200 --> 01:58:39.200 Just unable to find a connection there, but man, they were very split between the three-quarters. 01:58:39.200 --> 01:58:42.700 This Doom has a lot of evasion though. 01:58:42.700 --> 01:58:46.700 With Radiance, the Idol, which is quickened. 01:58:46.700 --> 01:58:49.700 Might be difficult to actually click it down. 01:58:49.700 --> 01:58:56.700 Got another idol of skitter as well, so lots of evasion, Proff is pendulum on malarine, so he's even more tanky with that tank tank buff. 01:58:56.700 --> 01:59:00.700 Just trying to survive the physical damage output. Can't blame him. 01:59:01.700 --> 01:59:08.700 Hangar on out. The rocket flares keep raining into that roche pit, scouting to see if there's a stinky steal. 01:59:09.700 --> 01:59:12.700 Smoke from falcons looking to reposition. 01:59:12.700 --> 01:59:17.700 position potentially into that ward which they did get placed in that bottom jungle. 01:59:17.700 --> 01:59:24.700 Crit really gets scouted by Scofield there but now they see the clockwork immediately jump onto him. 01:59:24.700 --> 01:59:28.700 Scofield out there with no buyback and he's dead for 90. 01:59:28.700 --> 01:59:31.700 Just didn't see that ward in the bottom left corner of that plateau. 01:59:31.700 --> 01:59:36.700 Well placed by Crit. Gets the advantage here for Falcons. 01:59:36.700 --> 01:59:40.700 Does not have buy as you said so. The true 5 on 4. 01:59:42.700 --> 01:59:44.700 They can't go straight to the pit though. 01:59:44.700 --> 01:59:46.700 They're still in rocket flag. 01:59:46.700 --> 01:59:49.700 Stinky vision of a playtime as they maneuver. 01:59:49.700 --> 01:59:52.700 Oh, they saw that Maura hit that wave top. They're gonna try and assassinate him. 01:59:52.700 --> 01:59:55.700 Come on to this doom with a bushwack and a damage from WITS! 01:59:55.700 --> 01:59:56.700 This is fierce! 01:59:56.700 --> 01:59:57.700 What a play call! 01:59:58.700 --> 02:00:00.700 You just did not expect that at all. 02:00:00.700 --> 02:00:03.700 He's just kinda casually killing the wave. I'm gonna come back to this unit and do enroche. 02:00:03.700 --> 02:00:06.700 And playtime can completely outmaneuvering Falcons here. 02:00:06.700 --> 02:00:08.700 Who cares evasion or is it Razor? 02:00:08.700 --> 02:00:10.700 There is dire vision here though. 02:00:10.700 --> 02:00:14.840 Something Falchions can maybe use to get a thick pango jump with the 02:00:14.840 --> 02:00:17.120 refresh rolling thunder infest bomb. 02:00:17.120 --> 02:00:19.120 I think that's what they want to do. 02:00:19.120 --> 02:00:20.120 They want to do this. 02:00:20.120 --> 02:00:22.120 It does have it available, very wealthy. 02:00:24.120 --> 02:00:25.620 Push Flak in. 02:00:25.620 --> 02:00:27.120 Trying to start something here. 02:00:27.120 --> 02:00:30.120 Misha and Margot, but now they're turned on by the lifestealer. 02:00:30.120 --> 02:00:34.120 Call in with the abyssal blade, but lick back at the PKBR, 02:00:34.120 --> 02:00:35.620 and Dark Margot can harpoon. 02:00:35.620 --> 02:00:39.620 Crick it, hello groundos, the chain frost bounces in between the frog and the fish. 02:00:39.620 --> 02:00:46.040 I'll read in the meantime. He's getting a job here on this hoodwink, but a requiem from where he is 02:00:46.260 --> 02:00:52.300 Take him down the shadow fee just offers too much. Where's the tomb by taking this fight? He's not coming 02:00:53.300 --> 02:01:00.440 I'm scared. It's gonna get hard been back. We just reach off steps into the crit rubric to blink and force away the speedy escape 02:01:03.380 --> 02:01:07.200 But a fight lost by Falcons and Roshan for play side 02:01:07.200 --> 02:01:10.200 There's no way they're fighting this line up in the river. 02:01:10.200 --> 02:01:13.200 Like watching this floor on our sit in the river with the Largo buffs. 02:01:13.200 --> 02:01:17.200 He's so fast, there's so much effective HP in this line up. 02:01:19.200 --> 02:01:22.200 Another great play call from playtime. 02:01:22.200 --> 02:01:25.200 Taking an aggressive stance, catching bounce, it's a little bit off guard. 02:01:25.200 --> 02:01:29.200 The fight becomes chaotic and you're sitting there as a margo and you want to buy back into this? 02:01:29.200 --> 02:01:31.200 It just looks weird. 02:01:31.200 --> 02:01:35.200 They will concede a Roshan, Aegis and a refresher shard to Wits. 02:01:35.200 --> 02:01:42.200 You have double banner too. You have a 600 radius and a 900 radius banner you can play in. 02:01:42.200 --> 02:01:43.200 Pretty good. 02:01:43.200 --> 02:01:46.200 And then you get a shield rune for dark mage. 02:01:46.200 --> 02:01:48.200 On top of that. 02:01:48.200 --> 02:01:51.200 Yeah, there's just so much HP to chunk through here. 02:01:51.200 --> 02:01:54.200 Probably not a damage if you're downed it. 02:01:54.200 --> 02:01:56.200 Just haven't seen it yet. 02:01:56.200 --> 02:01:59.200 I mean like, we're trying all in on this flood, I'll take it to like half health. 02:01:59.200 --> 02:02:00.200 I'll actually finish him. 02:02:00.200 --> 02:02:03.200 They do have level 3 amp again. Crit with another nice spell skill. 02:02:03.200 --> 02:02:08.200 And last time he got this he didn't get to use it here in a base defense, bit easier to throw some of those out. 02:02:09.200 --> 02:02:11.200 Second flat device bug. 02:02:11.200 --> 02:02:13.200 That's gonna hit pretty hard. 02:02:13.200 --> 02:02:15.200 I'll make sure it grabs it. 02:02:15.200 --> 02:02:17.200 I'm just gonna finish off this bottom lane. 02:02:17.200 --> 02:02:19.200 We're a rush-hand banner behind them. 02:02:19.200 --> 02:02:21.200 Dig down the bar. 02:02:21.200 --> 02:02:25.200 Oh yeah, you're right! I was wondering why they're not finishing that melee barracks. 02:02:25.200 --> 02:02:27.200 They're on the bar! 02:02:27.200 --> 02:02:29.200 The Doom, you get a chuck it. 02:02:29.200 --> 02:02:31.200 Onto the clockwork as he dies. 02:02:31.200 --> 02:02:36.200 Why would he... how did they know he was there and why would he do that? 02:02:38.200 --> 02:02:39.200 Why does it reach the desperation? 02:02:39.200 --> 02:02:42.200 They were going to get their new solo and it's going to go for Wisdom Shrine spawn. 02:02:42.200 --> 02:02:43.200 I guess they're free. 02:02:44.200 --> 02:02:46.200 Now they're still pushing this bottom lane. 02:02:46.200 --> 02:02:49.200 Doesn't have to fight damage from the bottom for the slaughter. 02:02:49.200 --> 02:02:50.200 Oh, that's huge. 02:02:51.200 --> 02:02:52.200 Doom has buyback. 02:02:52.200 --> 02:02:55.200 Yeah, but he can't. He has no doom if he buys. 02:02:56.200 --> 02:03:00.200 That's why I think it's a questionable doom because you're no real threat right now if they want to continue to push with this aid. 02:03:01.200 --> 02:03:06.780 just three minutes on the clock. A lot of gold in the bank too. It's like eight that 02:03:06.780 --> 02:03:12.200 eighty-seven hundred gold for widths. Just capped. 02:03:15.200 --> 02:03:20.520 This fucking high ground that jumps straight on the napping. And now nullifying the hacks they've got 02:03:20.520 --> 02:03:24.120 multiple rounds of disable for this pack, but he's able to get out there with a roll. 02:03:24.120 --> 02:03:27.720 Live Stealer trying to go ahead with the Ascent, but Rathbrem's gonna push them back. 02:03:27.720 --> 02:03:30.840 They're feared up the Live Stealer trying to focus him down. The rolling 02:03:30.840 --> 02:03:37.580 Thunder causes them chaos as they kill off SF the first time and will come back and respawn the nullifier on the hood 02:03:37.580 --> 02:03:38.600 But that's problematic 02:03:38.600 --> 02:03:43.120 Sinistergames drags him back in and the refresher from Mal'Rean another rolling thunder gonna come into the back lines 02:03:43.200 --> 02:03:45.360 Deal with the clockwork the cocks are annoying though 02:03:45.960 --> 02:03:49.240 forces Mal'Rean to change tack as they'll infested the Frank 02:03:50.120 --> 02:03:52.840 Don't market playing the left side while they lose the frog 02:03:52.920 --> 02:03:57.520 Requiem with another one requiem it ults back and fears kills the doom off buddies 02:03:57.520 --> 02:03:58.520 He's in trouble. 02:03:58.520 --> 02:04:02.120 As he goes back and his life stealer, all from the damage, gets the kill! 02:04:02.120 --> 02:04:04.400 Skeeter doing so much work in this fight. 02:04:04.400 --> 02:04:08.120 And now that Chain Frost bounce back onto the clockwork, he's returned to this fight 02:04:08.120 --> 02:04:12.120 to die as Crit Marinas get us around him. 02:04:12.120 --> 02:04:16.680 Here, actually we got to see the damage in this fight, but it's got to be all life stealer 02:04:16.680 --> 02:04:17.680 and Pango. 02:04:17.680 --> 02:04:21.720 Yeah, 13,000 from Skeeter, that is ridiculous. 02:04:21.720 --> 02:04:23.840 He got four nullifiers off. 02:04:23.840 --> 02:04:27.840 Sitting there wailing on the S at the whole time, the Abyssal did so much work. 02:04:28.640 --> 02:04:31.340 These idols as well, this SF keeps missing hits and... 02:04:31.840 --> 02:04:34.340 You miss a couple hits, that's like a thousand damage each. 02:04:35.040 --> 02:04:39.040 So Leicester's approving his worth in that battle with some Pangalore control to go on top, 02:04:39.040 --> 02:04:41.540 but the Doom's still struggling to find some impact, but... 02:04:41.940 --> 02:04:43.340 At least you're a damage soak. 02:04:43.540 --> 02:04:45.140 They didn't even lose a melee fire and spawn. 02:04:45.340 --> 02:04:47.840 No, that is actually not a big deal for them. 02:04:47.840 --> 02:04:49.340 It did cost them triple bot. 02:04:49.840 --> 02:04:51.540 Like, there's definitely some economic damage done. 02:04:51.540 --> 02:04:53.640 You use both supports and the Doom buyback. 02:04:53.840 --> 02:04:58.880 But you'll take that this point game. I mean that that's potentially a game and you fight with two eyes on the SF 02:05:01.800 --> 02:05:04.860 Better confidence in Falcon's stride now heading late game 02:05:06.080 --> 02:05:09.160 Stolen amp also did some work there able to throw out the amp on the 02:05:09.960 --> 02:05:14.220 Largo make him a lot squishier that helps amplify the light steward's damage 02:05:15.920 --> 02:05:17.920 Ex-blessing and Daedalus 02:05:19.000 --> 02:05:21.800 My pretty stacked life stealer. He's a big boy now 02:05:21.800 --> 02:05:28.480 Now, he does, in theory, have the better matchup against the SF in some ways. 02:05:28.480 --> 02:05:32.920 You can get on top of him with a pistol, hit him, rage up this really long rage, and then 02:05:32.920 --> 02:05:33.920 you can infest him. 02:05:33.920 --> 02:05:35.440 It was like a second life with Infest. 02:05:35.440 --> 02:05:39.560 Yeah, it's just kind of hard for Witt to hit here unless he's getting stunned and controlled 02:05:39.560 --> 02:05:42.200 by this hookshot slash sword or... 02:05:42.200 --> 02:05:49.000 But I know, win conditions on the table, if they can kill off this Doom or maybe one 02:05:49.000 --> 02:05:53.640 the support they got our numbers advantage we pressure how quickly these 02:05:53.640 --> 02:05:57.440 guys can just crumble under this lot our SF pressure it'll be a very different 02:05:57.440 --> 02:06:02.640 fight if they can eliminate these five-hour heroes 02:06:03.160 --> 02:06:08.960 no field just hook shot across the creeps pretty low cooldown 02:06:08.960 --> 02:06:10.960 I'm not wanting too much. 02:06:11.960 --> 02:06:13.960 Still holding that Roach out banner. 02:06:15.960 --> 02:06:18.960 Ducat's looking to get aggressive here. 02:06:18.960 --> 02:06:21.960 We'll have double rolling thunder up for this fight. 02:06:21.960 --> 02:06:22.960 Where did they find first? 02:06:22.960 --> 02:06:25.960 Roll into the back looking for the support. 02:06:25.960 --> 02:06:26.960 Doc Boat's going to block the path. 02:06:26.960 --> 02:06:27.960 Ah, that's awkward, man. 02:06:27.960 --> 02:06:29.960 Protect the Aztec who's in the trees. 02:06:29.960 --> 02:06:31.960 Doom, he gets an opening of Dark Manga, though. 02:06:31.960 --> 02:06:33.960 As Joe feels blown up in the cogs. 02:06:33.960 --> 02:06:34.960 With... 02:06:34.960 --> 02:06:35.960 What's he doing to stand in? 02:06:35.960 --> 02:06:36.960 Waitin'. 02:06:36.960 --> 02:06:42.960 What just happens with the Requiem thrown in, they'll hex and change stuff, and the life you'll have gone, the damage from which is too much to handle. 02:06:43.960 --> 02:06:47.960 Bioback from Dark Mago trying to come in and protect the S-7, they fall to the low ground, but he's not gonna die. 02:06:48.960 --> 02:06:50.960 Pango and Doom, not much left in attack now. 02:06:51.960 --> 02:07:00.960 Rubik on the escape to try and slip back, as Frank and Al-Misho, they give Chase a jump in from the slumber, finds one of the supports on the tail end, and the second one's gonna fall in the creep wave. 02:07:00.960 --> 02:07:17.960 Darkmonger with another buyback to try and clean this fight up, maintain the advantage, but technically a win for Falcons, they get the Shadowfiend, they get the buyback out of that situation, you fight outside your base, so, yeah, you're losing supports with no buy, but you have a little bit of time to maybe defend or regroup here. 02:07:18.960 --> 02:07:26.960 See how much playtime can get out of this? Because you lost the SF, you can't go take buildings here, that's what really sucks about that fight. 02:07:26.960 --> 02:07:36.960 Really awkward initiation for Falcons, but damn, ends up kinda working out with the Doom finally finding his mark, all the armors up now. 02:07:37.960 --> 02:07:39.960 I've got the light game. 02:07:39.960 --> 02:07:44.960 Didn't get another infest off, it just got hexed out of that rage. 02:07:44.960 --> 02:07:50.960 Skiriot, annihilated by the Swinwick, got boomeranged into Sharpshooter, Sharpshooter did 1400 damage. 02:07:50.960 --> 02:07:53.960 You think it's the SF killing him? No, it's the damn squirrel. 02:07:53.960 --> 02:08:01.360 Squirrel Wow, that's insane. Yeah, this hero is something else with the 25 talent. Who's getting up that DPS tough into the cult? 02:08:01.600 --> 02:08:04.040 Okay, you can find the clockwork here 02:08:05.360 --> 02:08:11.200 Let's do mother slaughter means there's no immediate kill. Well in the spotlight and Maureen defending his base 02:08:11.840 --> 02:08:17.360 Making sure this Mali barracks doesn't just straight up die. Yeah, it won't kill anybody here, but please buy some time 02:08:18.520 --> 02:08:20.520 Kind of well worth it 02:08:20.520 --> 02:08:24.020 National literary spawn, 30 seconds for Rubik. 02:08:24.020 --> 02:08:27.820 I think it's the S&P in Satanic, that's the one piece of these fights that seems to be missing. 02:08:27.820 --> 02:08:30.820 He just doesn't have sustain to sit there, particularly if he's not getting doomed. 02:08:30.820 --> 02:08:34.520 Like, that fight, they do smarter. You have to be able to stand and deliver the damage. 02:08:34.520 --> 02:08:36.520 Man, fight these heroes if you're the Shadow Team. 02:08:37.520 --> 02:08:40.520 Especially when you have 10,000 gold, you should be able to pivot here. 02:08:40.520 --> 02:08:52.200 Now the situation though, Slardar no buyback 6 minutes, Dune 2 and a half, so both teams 02:08:52.200 --> 02:08:59.200 can attend to it with how they want to approach this. Falcons sat in their base, see who comes. 02:08:59.200 --> 02:09:04.920 They can scan down in the river, see if we can find any of these active runes or figure 02:09:04.920 --> 02:09:10.200 where Falcons are. This Roshan is potentially 15 seconds away from respawning. 02:09:13.160 --> 02:09:18.040 Falcons is a bit of a high ground vision. That's all you can do. 02:09:18.040 --> 02:09:22.600 Play some Observer Wards, play into these high grounds. You try and use the terrain to your advantage. 02:09:25.560 --> 02:09:31.160 Dark Rago, he consumed an axe, almost level 30, and back to the sloth of the cheese, 02:09:31.160 --> 02:09:36.160 So if he does not get doomed, he is going to be an absolute unkillable beast of the fight. 02:09:39.160 --> 02:09:41.160 Hello? What is this? 02:09:41.160 --> 02:09:44.160 Go field! We're talking Margot! 02:09:44.160 --> 02:09:46.160 The evasion though, Amar? 02:09:46.160 --> 02:09:49.160 There's no chance he's dead! Still going to get shields down. 02:09:49.160 --> 02:09:55.160 Frank kills him and that's a doom gone for a minute and a half, both as death timer and buy bang. 02:09:55.160 --> 02:09:57.160 They're going to roll in Thunder in though. 02:09:57.160 --> 02:10:00.160 They're catching SF with the spire. 02:10:00.160 --> 02:10:03.160 Shane throws bounce back and best of played with is down. 02:10:03.160 --> 02:10:05.160 Falcons find the carry kill. 02:10:05.160 --> 02:10:07.160 They're going to lose the lich for this. 02:10:07.160 --> 02:10:09.160 But Falcons have got a massive take down on the SF 02:10:09.160 --> 02:10:11.160 and they're escaping with their two cores. 02:10:11.160 --> 02:10:13.160 What an opening. 02:10:13.160 --> 02:10:16.160 You cannot be lazy against this team. 02:10:16.160 --> 02:10:18.160 Just because you found so big toon kill, 02:10:18.160 --> 02:10:19.160 you're kind of celebrating. 02:10:19.160 --> 02:10:21.160 You're thinking let's just go Roach. 02:10:21.160 --> 02:10:22.160 You're walking across the map. 02:10:22.160 --> 02:10:24.160 They had one obbs on that hill and Falcons, 02:10:24.160 --> 02:10:29.160 and Falcons, they use it. Not a team that will shy away from opportunity. 02:10:31.160 --> 02:10:34.160 That just saves them so much time here. 02:10:35.160 --> 02:10:39.160 Still gonna be able to get Roshan, but this was a Roshan that was playtimes to take no matter what. 02:10:39.160 --> 02:10:44.160 The real difference here is you don't have an option to put this Aegis on the SF and let him siege high ground. 02:10:44.160 --> 02:10:46.160 You're gonna have to give it to one of these other cores. 02:10:46.160 --> 02:10:48.160 We'll have to beat Dark Mogul here. 02:10:48.160 --> 02:11:08.440 They will always fight with double rolling thunder plus Lufthas. 02:11:08.440 --> 02:11:10.880 They have buybacks on these cores anyway. 02:11:10.880 --> 02:11:12.360 No SF is a big opening. 02:11:12.360 --> 02:11:16.360 Looking for their moment to strike. 02:11:16.360 --> 02:11:18.360 They've got vision of this. 02:11:18.360 --> 02:11:20.360 They see perfectly into the mess to the fight. 02:11:20.360 --> 02:11:24.360 Dark Margot gets started on, but the stuns on this life stealer hold him in place. 02:11:24.360 --> 02:11:28.360 Another fight Dark Margot though, as he gets licked and Lincoln's pushed down the stairs, 02:11:28.360 --> 02:11:30.360 rolling back into the river. 02:11:30.360 --> 02:11:32.360 The crashing in of the rolling thunder, 02:11:32.360 --> 02:11:35.360 the hacks back from El Misha though with the two-man bushback boomerack. 02:11:35.360 --> 02:11:36.360 Save Dark Margot. 02:11:36.360 --> 02:11:39.360 Finally his first life is gone, but they've got the frog doomed up. 02:11:39.360 --> 02:11:43.960 Doomguff! Didn't know he was stuck in the cauldron and his army shovels it back out of the pit. 02:11:43.960 --> 02:11:49.460 Another roll forward towards the splardar. They surrounded him and Dark Margot gobbles the cheese. 02:11:49.460 --> 02:11:54.460 Break free. Infest can jump out. They turn around. They go again. 02:11:54.460 --> 02:12:00.360 A hookshot though. Skillfield traps in. Doom cogs around him. He's nullified and stuck. 02:12:00.360 --> 02:12:04.060 Amar has no way out and Dark Margot makes damn sure he's dead. 02:12:04.060 --> 02:12:07.560 It's a break by back if Falcons can get out. My clock works in. 02:12:07.560 --> 02:12:12.760 Lifestealer makes sure work of him, Shadaphine trying to catch up, but Falcons there disengaging. 02:12:12.760 --> 02:12:22.160 Another attempt with an acorn shot and a catch towards the ledge, but he's go-cepted up the high ground, nullified, dragged back, docked Maga though on the tier 3, Reckham's gonna take down the ledge. 02:12:22.160 --> 02:12:25.360 Back as the job done, as playtime play up the high ground. 02:12:26.160 --> 02:12:29.760 Scare has to heal, he's out of mana, he had no mana for rage to turn there. 02:12:30.560 --> 02:12:36.760 Falcons with a thick disengage, get another buyback, another cheese usage, but a refresher shard usage. 02:12:36.760 --> 02:12:40.660 And that Aegis down, just so much HP to wear through, they gotta go again. 02:12:40.660 --> 02:12:44.160 They're coming back in with another Infant's Bomb on the Shadowfiend, they're focusing Wings down! 02:12:44.160 --> 02:12:45.960 Another kill on the carry! 02:12:45.960 --> 02:12:50.160 Frank, he can't be the focal point, have to go for support, so the hoodwings self-yuals, 02:12:50.160 --> 02:12:54.160 now maybe they turn onto the Frog to deal with him while Life of the Chase is a squirrel, 02:12:54.160 --> 02:12:58.360 Frank is stuck in the base, Maureen is staking, they're dealing with him. 02:12:58.360 --> 02:13:03.160 The Frog being picked apart, oh, Skinner's picked up a double kill, and there is no escaping. 02:13:03.160 --> 02:13:10.160 This dire base for Frank. He can heal and strum all he wants, but the tune has got to come to an end. 02:13:10.160 --> 02:13:16.160 He'll get sinister gaze, flick by Maureen, Infest comes out and Falcons defend their base! 02:13:16.160 --> 02:13:23.160 And all they used was Lich Byte. That's a die-back on Frank. Another SF death, he cannot get this vacant hit off. 02:13:23.160 --> 02:13:29.160 They clump too much. This rolling Thunder punishes him. You can't lick the SF out. It's just controlling the entire fight. 02:13:29.160 --> 02:13:32.160 No way to reset these engagements for width. 02:13:32.160 --> 02:13:37.160 Playtime overextending this lead is dwindling right now. 02:13:39.160 --> 02:13:42.160 This game felt like theirs to lose, but... 02:13:42.160 --> 02:13:47.160 He just couldn't lick him here, he actually needs to hit by him, but he's running away trying to dodge it! 02:13:47.160 --> 02:13:50.160 And that's enough zone control. 02:13:53.160 --> 02:13:59.160 They're getting back into the initiations. This is a big deal, she's putting herself up on the frontline with no ages. 02:13:59.160 --> 02:14:01.160 They're gonna take that every time. 02:14:01.160 --> 02:14:03.160 He's way too squishy. 02:14:03.160 --> 02:14:06.160 He has no evasion, no extra armor. 02:14:06.160 --> 02:14:10.160 He's just hitting their pure damage with Zykanik if you can't hit anything. 02:14:10.160 --> 02:14:12.160 If you get hit by one stun, you're done. 02:14:12.160 --> 02:14:13.160 Yeah, exactly. 02:14:13.160 --> 02:14:17.160 This life stealer's munching on your lunch right now, 18 and 5 per Skeeter. 02:14:17.160 --> 02:14:19.160 Falcons didn't lose a melee racks. 02:14:19.160 --> 02:14:22.160 They lost 2 T3s, 2 Rage Barret. 02:14:22.160 --> 02:14:24.160 And now they're taking the melee in the mid lane. 02:14:24.160 --> 02:14:27.160 They get the first melee racks in the game. That is absurd. 02:14:27.160 --> 02:14:33.160 61 minutes in. Not looking at these 10-5 neutral items as well. 02:14:33.160 --> 02:14:39.160 The Falcons can now shift back through the jungle, gather up all the mats, though, 02:14:39.160 --> 02:14:42.160 and think about their options. 02:14:42.160 --> 02:14:47.160 Not much to kill yet either, like Malrin can fill consumer ags by a pistol blade. 02:14:47.160 --> 02:14:52.160 I just gotta sell the diffusel. Says I don't want to eat the little mana burn anymore. 02:14:52.160 --> 02:14:58.160 He's slotting this one there and he's gonna be an absolute monster. Almost level 30. 02:15:00.160 --> 02:15:04.160 Skitter, over six-slotted. Amped it in the backpack. 02:15:05.160 --> 02:15:08.160 And this Doom, honestly, he just hasn't had a game. 02:15:08.160 --> 02:15:16.160 I don't think he's really done anything good. The Doom is still a ridiculous spell, so as long as he gets in there, he dooms any of these cores. It's kind of good enough at this point. 02:15:16.160 --> 02:15:20.160 Ah, he's got the Purge as the Lincoln's Popper. He'll hold onto that. 02:15:20.160 --> 02:15:25.460 That's all he wants. He just wants to blink. Do one of these courses. 02:15:25.460 --> 02:15:29.660 At this point, honestly, you're probably doing Florida or Largo every time. 02:15:29.660 --> 02:15:32.060 Like, you're not even worried about trying to do this SF. He's just getting 02:15:32.060 --> 02:15:35.320 controlled by all the bashes and the abysses. You know, have a pistol, 02:15:35.320 --> 02:15:39.720 swift blink. Life's there. You have the basher, Pingo. I mean, this is just insane 02:15:39.720 --> 02:15:43.200 with OctoRene in the late game. Like, you have... It's just such a low cooldown 02:15:43.200 --> 02:15:45.220 shield crash going through off these rolling thunders. 02:15:45.220 --> 02:15:49.820 Ah, at one point I had a 26k lead. 02:15:49.820 --> 02:15:54.620 So the past 10 minutes has been a 20k swing back towards Falcons. 02:15:54.620 --> 02:15:56.220 We now get those tier 5 neutral items. 02:15:56.220 --> 02:15:57.220 They got some good ones. 02:15:57.220 --> 02:15:58.820 They got the Stygian on the Light Stealer. 02:15:58.820 --> 02:16:02.740 They got the Disoon for the Pango, which is where he'll lead. 02:16:02.740 --> 02:16:03.740 Amar has... 02:16:03.740 --> 02:16:05.940 Yeah, a lot of good options. 02:16:05.940 --> 02:16:08.940 Could take a Disoon here if he wants to go into the Ags. 02:16:08.940 --> 02:16:09.940 That could be interesting. 02:16:09.940 --> 02:16:13.940 Might just take R'Ga'lai for like the one fight and then just say, you know, a sack 02:16:13.940 --> 02:16:19.620 at whatever fallen sky for slaughter not the biggest here is there any world in 02:16:19.620 --> 02:16:25.580 which he keeps the idle for the innovation baby they're all in straight 02:16:25.580 --> 02:16:30.980 into the middle of the cult in fact blow up jump out kill clock dead holding by 02:16:30.980 --> 02:16:36.900 back logo still being hunted though as a mar looking for his option to jump in 02:16:36.900 --> 02:16:40.740 Lincoln's already pre-placed on slaughter now gets up the BKB as which 02:16:40.740 --> 02:16:45.380 can start opening up but Pango nullified breaks free with the help of the telekinesis save. 02:16:45.380 --> 02:16:50.180 Another infest in, Scythe device from playtime trying to catch up and chase with another 02:16:50.180 --> 02:16:52.100 blink crush they've got to go and snake it. 02:16:52.100 --> 02:16:55.940 Chainsaw goes for the fire though, bounces back, kills off the Slaughter. 02:16:55.940 --> 02:16:56.940 Now it wins. 02:16:56.940 --> 02:17:00.180 He's going to get over the high ground, down the cliff, onto low ground, but the Pango 02:17:00.180 --> 02:17:02.980 keeps chasing, rolls in, he's going to take him down. 02:17:02.980 --> 02:17:08.900 The talent he has to buy back, returns to the battlefield with a triple buy out of playtime. 02:17:08.900 --> 02:17:09.900 Crank! 02:17:09.900 --> 02:17:15.160 He's shaking forward, looking for these Falcons heroes as the ex-fiery of the BKBs! 02:17:15.160 --> 02:17:18.780 They've got the pango in the back, but that's probably all they're gonna get here. 02:17:18.780 --> 02:17:21.380 Another incredibly fast disengage from Falcons. 02:17:21.380 --> 02:17:23.860 They're just so good at reading the situation. 02:17:23.860 --> 02:17:29.220 So you can't ball ring, but he does have buyback available here. 02:17:29.220 --> 02:17:34.300 And you used a lot, you used Flotarify, you used SFI, you used Fiddling, you used Clockworkby, 02:17:34.300 --> 02:17:38.740 that's a quad buyback, none are available for playtime, are they just gonna run down 02:17:38.740 --> 02:17:43.060 mid and try all in it with the cool down here there's no doom available there's 02:17:43.060 --> 02:17:47.300 gonna only be one rolling thunder I swear the shot 02:17:47.300 --> 02:17:55.000 hostile's incredibly risky come into round 10 on this middle lane I mean you 02:17:55.000 --> 02:17:59.740 know about this at buybacks they're so wealthy on these heroes it's just too 02:17:59.740 --> 02:18:04.780 easy to all in the SF I have to go cliff and even delay this mid lane push 02:18:04.780 --> 02:18:10.420 melee bags finally claimed the demonic warriors and archers you have to work on 02:18:10.420 --> 02:18:13.780 that bottom lane I think this is all you get here though I don't think you can go 02:18:13.780 --> 02:18:17.380 for throwing I don't think you can really go for megas you know see what 02:18:17.380 --> 02:18:19.940 they opt to do 02:18:22.260 --> 02:18:27.460 the issue is if you don't try and go for more with this pango death you're gonna 02:18:27.460 --> 02:18:30.140 end up in a situation where Falcons take next Roshan because you're not gonna 02:18:30.140 --> 02:18:34.100 contest it with buybacks while they have theirs 02:18:34.780 --> 02:18:36.780 But that is the situation you're going to have to live with. 02:18:36.780 --> 02:18:38.780 It's a little bit cheese on Dark Margo, I guess. 02:18:38.780 --> 02:18:42.780 It's a little bit of something, but this game has won quite rapidly. 02:18:43.780 --> 02:18:45.780 And Rochanne can potentially open 10. 02:18:45.780 --> 02:18:50.780 Witt is picking Tormentor as an objective to attempt to go and take. 02:18:50.780 --> 02:18:53.780 He's already gone through the twin gate to push out lanes. 02:18:54.780 --> 02:18:56.780 That's one of the most important things. 02:18:56.780 --> 02:18:59.780 QB's lanes shoved across the river, so you have map space to play in. 02:18:59.780 --> 02:19:05.380 He's a bit of an early-winter system against Falcons, so it's so good. 02:19:05.380 --> 02:19:07.900 That's sweeping across the map. 02:19:07.900 --> 02:19:12.420 Jim still hasn't picked his item. 02:19:12.420 --> 02:19:14.380 Holding that option. 02:19:14.380 --> 02:19:16.380 He will eat- he will consume an axe here. 02:19:16.380 --> 02:19:18.060 That's 100% what he's going for. 02:19:18.060 --> 02:19:19.540 He just wants to say bye back. 02:19:19.540 --> 02:19:22.340 He has 3200 surplus- ah, he could. 02:19:22.340 --> 02:19:25.340 Yeah, so he needs another 1600. 02:19:25.340 --> 02:19:41.140 It's kind of hard to see how playtime can help the SF4 in this game because that's the 02:19:41.140 --> 02:19:42.140 biggest issue. 02:19:42.140 --> 02:19:47.380 How do you help with sitting the fight actually deal damage without just being shamed on forever? 02:19:47.380 --> 02:19:52.660 It's not really an item you can buy to stop SF getting bashed, it's just one of those 02:19:52.660 --> 02:19:53.940 interactions that's always guaranteed. 02:19:53.940 --> 02:19:58.940 You can't buy evasion, you can't debuff immunity in, you can't mean wake or like... 02:19:58.940 --> 02:20:02.940 Or maybe an argument for an early inclimacade or another full staff or clock, but... 02:20:02.940 --> 02:20:04.940 Against nullify? Like... 02:20:04.940 --> 02:20:05.940 It's just not... Yeah, exactly. 02:20:05.940 --> 02:20:07.940 I don't know, it's just... There's not much you can do about it. 02:20:07.940 --> 02:20:10.940 You just have to play more patient in position. You have to let your... 02:20:10.940 --> 02:20:12.940 You have to let the fight develop, basically. 02:20:12.940 --> 02:20:15.940 SSSF and go in ultra late in the fight. 02:20:15.940 --> 02:20:19.940 That's Lada and Frank on his front. Do all the work. 02:20:19.940 --> 02:20:22.940 Yep. They have a lot of HP to work with, so you should have time. 02:20:23.940 --> 02:20:27.520 The one thing is the mid lane is pushed in, all the way to Raging Phase. 02:20:27.520 --> 02:20:32.220 Witters tried to keep the side lanes out with the rest of his team, but they've left Roshan open. 02:20:33.980 --> 02:20:35.980 I do have that warning. 02:20:36.740 --> 02:20:39.380 He roars out and says, hey, Falcons are taking me. 02:20:39.380 --> 02:20:44.220 There's no way to contest this. Maybe all four folks are steal, but not even gonna listen to that. 02:20:44.620 --> 02:20:45.980 But no pie back available. 02:20:46.820 --> 02:20:48.580 Two lives on this life stealer. 02:20:51.540 --> 02:20:53.380 What else is there? Cheese pango? 02:20:53.940 --> 02:20:55.420 Not really too useful. 02:20:55.420 --> 02:20:58.540 Banner Rubik, Refresher Shard, Doom. 02:20:59.540 --> 02:21:01.180 That is pretty big. 02:21:01.180 --> 02:21:01.780 Creep. 02:21:01.780 --> 02:21:02.540 Well, yeah. 02:21:02.540 --> 02:21:05.420 When he consumes that Agatom step, can we have AAE Doom? 02:21:08.220 --> 02:21:11.100 He can definitely just cast Doom on himself. 02:21:11.660 --> 02:21:14.820 Like BKB Blinken, instant refresh. 02:21:14.820 --> 02:21:17.380 Then slot another item in, and by the time the first Doom's out, 02:21:17.380 --> 02:21:19.740 then you have to write it back up and get another Doom. 02:21:19.740 --> 02:21:21.300 And now he doesn't need the Purge Creep, 02:21:21.300 --> 02:21:23.300 so it actually gets something good. 02:21:23.940 --> 02:21:26.180 It's true, you could eat something else here. 02:21:26.180 --> 02:21:27.580 There we get the shard. 02:21:27.580 --> 02:21:29.580 Go and devour some ancients. 02:21:31.860 --> 02:21:33.860 What is the best thing for him to have? 02:21:35.780 --> 02:21:37.780 Alpha wolf at this point? Or... 02:21:37.780 --> 02:21:39.780 Granite Golem? 02:21:40.340 --> 02:21:42.340 Cool down reduction, dude. 02:21:45.860 --> 02:21:48.660 The prowl of aura gets more lifestealer. 02:21:48.660 --> 02:21:51.660 For your life, it's probably Alpha Wolf. 02:21:51.660 --> 02:21:54.940 It's quite a difficult choice. 02:21:54.940 --> 02:22:00.580 Yeah, it does go for that Dizzin' Bloodrite with the Anger and Scepter upgraded Doom. 02:22:00.580 --> 02:22:01.580 Pretty nice. 02:22:01.580 --> 02:22:04.580 Also evolves just a lot of HP at this point in the game. 02:22:04.580 --> 02:22:06.580 5,000 health in total. 02:22:06.580 --> 02:22:15.560 The fuckings have found themselves in the lead for literally the first time this game. 02:22:15.560 --> 02:22:20.060 It's been all playtime. 02:22:20.060 --> 02:22:24.060 There'll be another reroll here on the neutrals in 20 seconds. 02:22:27.060 --> 02:22:30.060 Probably want something else on Dark Mago if you can get it. 02:22:30.060 --> 02:22:33.060 You have double spider legs which... 02:22:33.060 --> 02:22:35.060 Yeah, I think the spider legs on Largo are. 02:22:35.060 --> 02:22:37.060 Okay, I don't know if you'd really roll something that much better, but... 02:22:37.060 --> 02:22:39.060 These spider legs on SF. 02:22:40.060 --> 02:22:43.060 I think you gotta get a damage item here. 02:22:44.060 --> 02:22:46.060 Something more dangerous. 02:22:46.060 --> 02:22:51.500 You're being hemmed back in your base though. 02:22:51.500 --> 02:22:55.900 No buyback on Slardar, SF, Hoodwink for a couple of minutes. 02:22:55.900 --> 02:23:00.220 I don't know if Falcons are going to jump the gun and go for something before his buyback 02:23:00.220 --> 02:23:03.940 is dropped, but there's always that fear. 02:23:03.940 --> 02:23:06.660 So Hoodwink is out there on the side lane. 02:23:06.660 --> 02:23:09.300 Gathering farm, but also pushing waves with demonic warriors. 02:23:09.300 --> 02:23:12.900 Trying to get some chip damage on that top tier 3. 02:23:12.900 --> 02:23:14.900 Pauline is clearing them. 02:23:14.900 --> 02:23:17.900 He's just sitting here with Boots of Travel 2, Bioback available. 02:23:17.900 --> 02:23:20.900 So if you smoke gank him, they'll be ready to take the fight. 02:23:20.900 --> 02:23:24.900 Otherwise, he can just defend perfectly fine here and join the fight instantly. 02:23:26.900 --> 02:23:28.900 He has been their primary initiator though. 02:23:28.900 --> 02:23:31.900 Might make it a little awkward to start anything if he's the one sitting in base. 02:23:37.900 --> 02:23:39.900 They're extremen to you three. 02:23:39.900 --> 02:23:42.700 I'm gonna rush down to Fanna, the banner over there. 02:23:42.700 --> 02:23:44.200 Not doing a lot there. 02:23:44.200 --> 02:23:46.900 No, taking down pretty quickly. 02:23:46.900 --> 02:23:49.900 Got a triple catapult with this banner, so... 02:23:50.900 --> 02:23:52.400 Happy to push here. 02:23:52.400 --> 02:23:53.900 And jump in for Mal-Rain. 02:23:53.900 --> 02:23:55.900 Straight in with a spire chain frost. 02:23:55.900 --> 02:23:58.400 They're focusing Frank, the frog, dead. 02:23:58.400 --> 02:23:59.900 I have to buy back now. 02:23:59.900 --> 02:24:01.900 That's Clug-Quest on the left-hand side. 02:24:01.900 --> 02:24:05.900 Inside is A. We Doom just being pushed around on that cliff top. 02:24:05.900 --> 02:24:07.900 Is there a pinning enemy? 02:24:07.900 --> 02:24:10.380 I'm gonna go trade. 02:24:10.380 --> 02:24:12.060 I play time might try and throw him. 02:24:12.060 --> 02:24:13.620 He's trying to take outpost with S-Seph. 02:24:13.620 --> 02:24:15.220 I'm just really weird. 02:24:15.220 --> 02:24:23.660 Now, Misha will get to send books in, threaten the Megas, but Falcons are way faster here. 02:24:23.660 --> 02:24:24.660 Jurassic matches needed. 02:24:24.660 --> 02:24:26.660 You've got no clock for 100 seconds. 02:24:26.660 --> 02:24:28.380 They're already getting some TVs back. 02:24:28.380 --> 02:24:29.380 Mal, Rheem went back. 02:24:29.380 --> 02:24:31.380 I mean, Life's Go just got jumped and killed. 02:24:31.380 --> 02:24:32.860 Yeah, this was awkward. 02:24:32.860 --> 02:24:33.860 Yeah, this was awkward. 02:24:33.860 --> 02:24:35.860 Immediate jump, and now Falcons isolated. 02:24:35.860 --> 02:24:38.660 Requiem and the control skidger is gone 02:24:40.060 --> 02:24:44.500 Interesting plates. I'm gonna come out of their base now look for the doom he could be up from a mage 02:24:44.500 --> 02:24:49.800 And he chased down their own harpoon forward slot on SF gap close quickly and he's nullified and killed 02:24:50.220 --> 02:24:56.020 They've both got five bags as Almeida did kept taking down on the other side of the map and he's dead for two minutes 02:24:56.020 --> 02:24:58.020 I can't believe ball reams. He'd be bad for that 02:24:59.020 --> 02:25:01.860 But just gave plates like such a massive opening 02:25:03.100 --> 02:25:05.100 Dima get megas there 02:25:05.860 --> 02:25:07.860 One barrack separates them from it. 02:25:07.860 --> 02:25:11.860 Double buy used. All other buybacks available in this game. 02:25:11.860 --> 02:25:15.860 That's a really good trade for playtime given the situation. 02:25:19.860 --> 02:25:22.860 What can I do with it? Can I force the buybacks to be used? 02:25:22.860 --> 02:25:24.860 They're gonna go for top lane? 02:25:24.860 --> 02:25:26.860 It's tough, it's... 02:25:26.860 --> 02:25:27.860 Because that means... 02:25:27.860 --> 02:25:30.860 ...rubble but really tough to disengage is the issue. 02:25:30.860 --> 02:25:33.860 It feels like you're gonna throw away three buybacks for two of theirs. 02:25:33.860 --> 02:25:38.140 And they have glyph, so you can't just all in for Megastyr. 02:25:38.140 --> 02:25:39.140 Yeah. 02:25:39.140 --> 02:25:42.540 It's a lich armor too. 02:25:42.540 --> 02:25:47.340 Not easy. 02:25:47.340 --> 02:25:49.340 That wind probability is all over the place. 02:25:49.340 --> 02:25:51.340 Almost 50-50 at this point. 02:25:51.340 --> 02:25:53.980 See where that goes if, uh, Skeeter assembles this Divine Rape here. 02:25:53.980 --> 02:25:54.980 He's holding on to it right now. 02:25:54.980 --> 02:25:57.300 That is a lot of extra damage on the Slaves Dealer. 02:25:57.300 --> 02:26:00.860 He did not have it on that death, but has it now. 02:26:00.860 --> 02:26:05.900 That surprised jump as he infested out of pangolier, he actually can go for this as he 02:26:05.900 --> 02:26:06.900 clears someone out. 02:26:06.900 --> 02:26:07.900 Crazy go. 02:26:07.900 --> 02:26:14.740 Dot Muggers straight into the buildings, like in this chain for a spire, bounces back in, 02:26:14.740 --> 02:26:18.900 forces the BKB as the roids thunder, crashes towards the back line and forces the disengage 02:26:18.900 --> 02:26:19.900 out of playtime. 02:26:19.900 --> 02:26:20.900 Dude this is epic. 02:26:20.900 --> 02:26:25.860 You're right, the SF has been isolated, stranded out in that top part of the map, doesn't get 02:26:25.860 --> 02:26:28.740 completely finished though and his life's still default with this attack. 02:26:28.740 --> 02:26:35.740 Another hex, into the bash, Lifesteal is thinking about the approach, but infesting the pango and holds back a little, Falcons pumping the brakes. 02:26:36.740 --> 02:26:42.740 No refresh for the Rolling Thunder there, I think that's the only thing that holds him back. They did assemble Devine on Skeeter so he's all in. 02:26:43.740 --> 02:26:47.740 They did not glyph that. Very important to hold the late game glyphs here. 02:26:48.740 --> 02:26:52.740 But now, big advantage Falcons. Two heroes on that radiant side with no buyback. 02:26:53.740 --> 02:26:54.740 They do have an opening. 02:26:54.740 --> 02:27:00.580 I might wait for Roshan in two minutes and put an Aegis on this Divine Life Stealer. 02:27:00.580 --> 02:27:03.860 You also know Radiant has no glyph right now, but I don't think you're going to be able 02:27:03.860 --> 02:27:07.980 to get creeps as a base to utilize it. 02:27:07.980 --> 02:27:14.740 It's got to be patient in these late game scenarios. 02:27:14.740 --> 02:27:19.540 You can't get Roshan in. 02:27:19.540 --> 02:27:28.340 Just go field, go ahead and gather the lotuses, do what you can on that right hand side, but 02:27:28.340 --> 02:27:37.100 it's Malrin on the left, making a very swift move into the enemy base, they're gonna jump 02:27:37.100 --> 02:27:41.820 out and just kill the building, but the smoke from playtime spots him, clockwork, he says 02:27:41.820 --> 02:27:43.620 hello Pango, what are you up to in here? 02:27:43.620 --> 02:27:48.180 I think they would have gone for it, the life stealer kills it, basically instantly, 02:27:48.180 --> 02:27:53.700 is moon charts with blink divine so maybe you die use divine but you can buy 02:27:53.700 --> 02:27:59.860 back at least you have mega is there isn't if you play the jump in for dot 02:27:59.860 --> 02:28:04.700 monger once create hook shots will play your distracts as well I got a turn on it 02:28:04.700 --> 02:28:07.660 though with a rolling thunder and now the damage out this life stealer nearly 02:28:07.660 --> 02:28:10.180 kills him up but don't mother's good the distance they best played on 02:28:10.180 --> 02:28:14.300 Shanafine that's a problem for wit infested kill buybacks required to 02:28:14.300 --> 02:28:16.760 Two calls down as Falcons they swoop in! 02:28:16.760 --> 02:28:18.260 Find that target! 02:28:18.260 --> 02:28:19.940 Doesn't want to go for the racks though. 02:28:19.940 --> 02:28:21.740 Afraid of the buybacks. 02:28:21.740 --> 02:28:25.740 The squirrel is riding top two and again forces the lich back. 02:28:25.740 --> 02:28:32.260 I can't believe Skeeter's not going to go for Vegas here. 02:28:32.260 --> 02:28:37.300 One melee on both sides, separating these teams from mega creeps. 02:28:37.300 --> 02:28:39.900 So close! 02:28:39.900 --> 02:28:42.580 Lich buys the boot to travel too. 02:28:42.580 --> 02:28:45.260 Life stealer just goes for it as a glip by 30 hells. 02:28:45.260 --> 02:28:48.120 That's pretty close, but off from his go field! 02:28:48.120 --> 02:28:49.620 Drain in there! 02:28:49.620 --> 02:28:52.740 Life stealer gonna come out and try and deal with him, but the doom has been hacked. 02:28:52.740 --> 02:28:55.260 Stunned up as well, and Morris falling, he's gone. 02:28:55.260 --> 02:28:59.740 Life stealer and Lich, chain frost bouncing, dark maga breaking free with the mental horn. 02:28:59.740 --> 02:29:03.140 Morrowling's thunder causing problems for them though, as the life stealer gets into all of them. 02:29:03.140 --> 02:29:07.540 He's moving back up, the Shadowfeet trying to kill him off, but they can't do the job! 02:29:07.540 --> 02:29:09.380 Another bash! The Shadowfeet! 02:29:09.380 --> 02:29:11.380 Oh! The Raze! 02:29:11.380 --> 02:29:14.880 One hit kill! Takes him down! That's all it takes! 02:29:14.880 --> 02:29:16.100 Divide on the deck. 02:29:16.100 --> 02:29:19.780 Bartholk is gonna fight for this. They bought the Doom, but Diller Heroes are holding. 02:29:20.440 --> 02:29:23.640 They're waiting for it! The Rapers are just sitting there on the floor! 02:29:23.640 --> 02:29:26.840 Someone's gotta pick it up. Wits is gonna go back for it. They ping it out. 02:29:26.840 --> 02:29:29.840 Give it to the SF. His damage just got upgraded. 02:29:30.340 --> 02:29:35.340 That was a Raze of the game right there. He's absolutely dead if he does not crit him on that Raze. 02:29:35.340 --> 02:29:37.340 and he has one chance to get it off. 02:29:37.340 --> 02:29:40.840 The chain stuns are just coming through on this SF every time. 02:29:40.840 --> 02:29:42.840 Look at that! 02:29:42.840 --> 02:29:44.340 That's all it takes. 02:29:44.340 --> 02:29:46.340 I mean, Skeeter is doing so much in every fight. 02:29:46.340 --> 02:29:48.840 Every fight he takes is just 10k damage. 02:29:48.840 --> 02:29:51.340 I guess damage is out of control. 02:29:52.340 --> 02:29:55.340 Rax afters, lifts his hands, puts you into the grave. 02:29:55.340 --> 02:29:57.840 And what a hook shot from Skullfield. 02:29:57.840 --> 02:30:00.840 Like, absolutely sick to catch them on the disengage. 02:30:00.840 --> 02:30:03.840 That is the risk of going for that Rax, which by the way, never died. 02:30:03.840 --> 02:30:04.840 No, what the hell? 02:30:04.840 --> 02:30:07.040 Because they looked at it the last minute. 02:30:07.040 --> 02:30:11.760 This is just a great bushwap from El Nisho at the end of that rage, so he was probably 02:30:11.760 --> 02:30:12.760 dead there no matter what. 02:30:12.760 --> 02:30:17.480 I don't think they have any damage going through on the Asaph at the end, but just so close, 02:30:17.480 --> 02:30:20.800 so clutched, he supports for a playtime. 02:30:20.800 --> 02:30:21.800 Not divine, Asaph. 02:30:21.800 --> 02:30:24.120 I mean, they're out of, like, the tournament of their lives. 02:30:24.120 --> 02:30:25.120 This is... 02:30:25.120 --> 02:30:26.120 Go Jail, insane. 02:30:26.120 --> 02:30:27.120 Godly. 02:30:27.120 --> 02:30:32.120 We're looking at a situation now, Asaph? 02:30:32.120 --> 02:30:33.120 Slot on. 02:30:33.120 --> 02:30:39.540 No buy back six minutes do same story, but a good pango lifestealer still holding there as a word forced to use it 02:30:39.540 --> 02:30:44.560 And Rochette is still a minute away this kill on the hood link down on that bottom lane 02:30:44.800 --> 02:30:50.240 That's a little actual he's been really annoying with the book writing up top constantly forcing your back now catch on Frank 02:30:50.440 --> 02:30:52.080 They've got the start device 02:30:52.080 --> 02:30:57.280 Now try and get in here with an elephant the bash is the frog doesn't last long and the damage of the life skill 02:30:57.280 --> 02:31:02.460 And that's two minutes without him another little lack of discipline around the map here from playtime 02:31:02.460 --> 02:31:08.040 Falcons take advantage of it. Never had to buy Skeeter either, so he's kind of happy to go for these aggressive plays 02:31:08.040 --> 02:31:10.040 Yeah, you lost the vine, but he still does a ton of damage 02:31:12.000 --> 02:31:15.560 One minute ten seconds for Frank's buyback to come up 02:31:16.080 --> 02:31:20.160 We could buy before that death timer clicks in 02:31:20.800 --> 02:31:23.940 Ten seconds for Rocham though. That's the big deal 02:31:25.880 --> 02:31:27.880 Falcons nestling into a 02:31:27.880 --> 02:31:31.000 Ah, situation where they can push out the lane, set up for Roche. 02:31:31.000 --> 02:31:34.160 They really need to get this top wave out. It's been a big nuisance for them. 02:31:34.160 --> 02:31:36.000 Finally they'll have some opportunity to do it. 02:31:36.000 --> 02:31:37.400 The gg again, this bottom jungle. 02:31:37.400 --> 02:31:39.560 The doom, he gets jumped with a lich along his side. 02:31:39.560 --> 02:31:41.800 It's the one coming, the lifesteal is gonna come out. 02:31:41.800 --> 02:31:44.960 Came thru off stairs, disengaged by the clockwork as he shadow fiends. 02:31:44.960 --> 02:31:46.200 Still gonna fall! 02:31:46.200 --> 02:31:48.320 You've got no whist there for two minutes and they... 02:31:48.320 --> 02:31:49.640 ...picked the rapier back up. 02:31:49.640 --> 02:31:50.960 Rolling thunder towards the clock. 02:31:50.960 --> 02:31:52.960 He's trapped on top of the cliff top though. 02:31:52.960 --> 02:31:56.520 Malrin will come back down the couch and we're backing him around. 02:31:56.520 --> 02:31:57.780 Get a little stuck! 02:31:57.780 --> 02:32:01.680 Scofield maneuvering around, outplayed his cavalry in pango, 02:32:01.680 --> 02:32:04.260 and is trying to catch up to him. 02:32:04.260 --> 02:32:07.600 There's Dark Margot's flado, found skinner in the back lines, you're right! 02:32:07.600 --> 02:32:10.100 And Mal Ring can have to try and roll out of here. 02:32:10.100 --> 02:32:11.940 So, flado was rapier now. 02:32:11.940 --> 02:32:15.440 They've got flyback lifestealer, but no doom, no ledge. 02:32:15.440 --> 02:32:17.600 If they can moor in here, it's absolutely huge. 02:32:17.600 --> 02:32:21.860 And playtime, sure, you got no SF, but Dark Margot and Scofield, they're making it work! 02:32:21.860 --> 02:32:22.980 The Boomerangs! 02:32:22.980 --> 02:32:29.340 The demonic archers and warriors there on the pank, all the areas he pushed back to, now escaping the hookshot, make sure of it. 02:32:29.340 --> 02:32:38.140 These two supports are doing so much heavy lifting in this game, he double-sharp shot Skeeter, he took 3,000 damage off the boomerang amp. 02:32:38.740 --> 02:32:42.860 That's the face of a man who just got double shotgun pumped by a damn squirrel. 02:32:43.700 --> 02:32:45.500 Get me out of this game. 02:32:45.500 --> 02:32:49.220 There's too many threats to worry about, that is a level 30 hoodwink. 02:32:49.220 --> 02:32:56.220 They're all level- this is an entirely level 30 game except for Lich and Rubik, we might get there. 02:32:56.220 --> 02:33:02.220 That was Falcon's fight to win. He goes in, he dieback kills the SF, it should be over! 02:33:02.220 --> 02:33:07.220 But no, you forgot about the damn hoodwink 5. 02:33:07.220 --> 02:33:11.220 More influential in that situation, a sick jump on that high ground ward. 02:33:11.220 --> 02:33:15.220 The Requiem caught them all, they cog them up, they get too instantly. 02:33:15.220 --> 02:33:20.500 fights chaotic for Falcons. They salvage it, but not enough to win this Roshan. He will 02:33:20.500 --> 02:33:26.640 go to playtime, Divine Rapier into Dark Mago's hand. Maybe the better carrier after all anyway 02:33:26.640 --> 02:33:30.940 when you think about just split the damage threat. If you're not all in on this FF, he's 02:33:30.940 --> 02:33:35.180 doing a lot of DPS right now. He's going to take another Aegis in this game. 02:33:35.180 --> 02:33:43.180 And it went from where we're in a spot here where it felt like we were just going to push a couple of waves, go Roshan, get embroiled in this long duration team fight. 02:33:43.180 --> 02:33:47.180 And yeah, Slotter has Aegis. Shadowfiend's respawning. 02:33:47.180 --> 02:33:52.180 He's a big damage threat now. Slotter hits for 800. 02:33:52.180 --> 02:33:56.180 He has a moonshard. He has the attacks he built in. 02:33:56.180 --> 02:33:59.180 It's 4,000 damage from that life stealer. 02:33:59.180 --> 02:34:03.180 I did manage to hold Skitter's buyback. 02:34:03.180 --> 02:34:04.700 That is, that is big in this game. 02:34:06.540 --> 02:34:10.480 But he can't do it on his own if he doesn't have the Pangolier control. 02:34:10.480 --> 02:34:11.380 Oh, the rapier? 02:34:11.980 --> 02:34:14.380 The rapier loss definitely hurts, for sure. 02:34:17.980 --> 02:34:19.280 What can playtime do in this interval? 02:34:19.280 --> 02:34:21.980 They're gonna have the double core buy up in two minutes. 02:34:22.480 --> 02:34:24.580 No pango for six, that's the big one here, 02:34:24.580 --> 02:34:27.380 so you're definitely gonna try and push with this opening. 02:34:27.980 --> 02:34:31.080 Both melee barracks are reaching full health again, though. 02:34:31.080 --> 02:34:40.000 The regen top lane's full bottom radiant lane is getting there and security health back to 1800 the frost shield is definitely influential in these moments 02:34:40.240 --> 02:34:43.040 Thinking did take unlimited chain frost which is very reasonable 02:34:43.040 --> 02:34:48.740 But if you get level 30 will have the regen true could come into play here on these you know tier 4 throne pushes 02:34:50.200 --> 02:34:52.200 One insane game 02:34:52.480 --> 02:34:59.800 82 minutes asking the story of his lower bracket. We've only had one series go to oh every game has been going 60 minutes plus 02:35:01.080 --> 02:35:14.480 This matter, these team matchups, these drafts, taking us the distance and giving us some incredible situations where we're relying on these blind backs, individual performances, little bits of vision, just minor things to the scales. 02:35:14.780 --> 02:35:20.880 For Clawk, we're so annoying. The rocket flares from the ag suit, they really add up in the fight, so it's giving you that little extra vision advantage. 02:35:21.480 --> 02:35:22.980 You can pick his moment to go in. 02:35:24.280 --> 02:35:25.180 Now, smoke out. 02:35:25.380 --> 02:35:29.980 Ah, this is the window you're trying to abuse right now. You know, if you find Maureen in this game, 02:35:29.980 --> 02:35:33.660 This game can just end, and that is why Maury has been sitting in the bow. 02:35:33.660 --> 02:35:37.180 There's no way this pango is getting jumped without getting his spells off. 02:35:38.860 --> 02:35:40.860 Agz on Lich as well. 02:35:41.740 --> 02:35:46.140 If you have that AoE pull, it can be deadly if you don't expect any clump in the fight. 02:35:48.300 --> 02:35:50.300 Double courier on the shop. 02:35:50.940 --> 02:35:53.500 Could have been sitting there for like divine purchase or something. 02:35:53.500 --> 02:35:54.860 Will not have that available. 02:35:54.860 --> 02:35:56.700 Falcon's just gonna defend their top lane. 02:35:56.700 --> 02:35:59.100 They're infesting the doom, looking for something on this ward. 02:35:59.100 --> 02:36:01.100 They jumped him, thought Margot and Lincoln's pot, 02:36:01.100 --> 02:36:03.740 here we Doom going, life's gonna take him down. 02:36:03.740 --> 02:36:04.580 Does have Aegis. 02:36:04.580 --> 02:36:07.340 He does, second life, gonna come into play here. 02:36:07.340 --> 02:36:10.340 As they swing up to Amar with Longo 02:36:10.340 --> 02:36:12.100 and the Shadow Fiend trying to play the outskirt, 02:36:12.100 --> 02:36:13.620 the fight for this plumber to do them. 02:36:13.620 --> 02:36:15.420 Yes, they can't save him. 02:36:15.420 --> 02:36:17.820 The Doom's gonna get feared up and Wits is bashed up, 02:36:17.820 --> 02:36:18.900 right here on the floor, 02:36:18.900 --> 02:36:20.340 Life's gonna try to chase for the Cogs, 02:36:20.340 --> 02:36:21.580 all those protections of the Shadow Fiend 02:36:21.580 --> 02:36:22.420 that doesn't engage. 02:36:22.420 --> 02:36:24.180 Another roll back in though, Maureen. 02:36:24.180 --> 02:36:26.060 Trapped, he's stuck between his staircase 02:36:26.060 --> 02:36:28.060 in a hard place, Wits gonna try to spot legs 02:36:28.060 --> 02:36:32.560 and get buffed to low ground, the focus on the Shadowfiend protected by the frog on the way out. 02:36:32.560 --> 02:36:38.260 But at least, being dealt with on the right hand side by the two supports, making it crit, finding that one. 02:36:38.260 --> 02:36:42.460 What a fight for Falcons. On the one ward they have outside the map, they decide to risk it. 02:36:42.960 --> 02:36:44.560 And boy, does it pay off. 02:36:45.160 --> 02:36:46.860 Again, the life stealer damage. 02:36:47.260 --> 02:36:51.860 Is he able to just stick onto this damn Slardar? No way to get out of that doom. 02:36:52.560 --> 02:36:56.260 Could not disengage him, even in two lives with almost 6000 HP. 02:36:56.360 --> 02:36:57.160 Insane. 02:36:57.160 --> 02:37:01.500 He recovers a rapier off of that slaughter, they get through Aegis, they get through another. 02:37:01.500 --> 02:37:04.900 Jeez, they still have our fresher shard but it's not doing much for their lineup. 02:37:04.900 --> 02:37:06.900 Does the Barracks die though? 02:37:08.400 --> 02:37:09.900 There's Biobax back up. 02:37:09.900 --> 02:37:11.400 You can't go for it! 02:37:12.160 --> 02:37:12.960 Not yet. 02:37:13.860 --> 02:37:16.360 You need more vision. You kinda have to go for it here though. 02:37:16.360 --> 02:37:17.960 Like, what's it all in? 02:37:17.960 --> 02:37:19.660 It's only the pango that can't die. 02:37:20.860 --> 02:37:22.860 Everybody else can throw their lives at it. 02:37:22.860 --> 02:37:24.060 There's a gliff available. 02:37:24.060 --> 02:37:29.660 He says go in, just rage up, jump on high ground, infest into the clockwork, try and bring Scofield down. 02:37:29.660 --> 02:37:33.380 I need to buy back out of him now as Doug Margo does spend his to jump to this- 02:37:33.380 --> 02:37:34.180 Oh yeah, I stopped him! 02:37:34.180 --> 02:37:35.820 He's been killed off! 02:37:35.820 --> 02:37:39.860 Doesn't get saved, raper on the floor, the rolling thunder out of there with the happy memory. 02:37:39.860 --> 02:37:40.580 Oh my god! 02:37:40.580 --> 02:37:42.500 The hookshot doesn't land! 02:37:42.500 --> 02:37:43.140 What? 02:37:43.140 --> 02:37:44.500 Somehow! 02:37:45.220 --> 02:37:47.060 Somehow, Malorraine! 02:37:47.060 --> 02:37:47.660 There's no way. 02:37:47.660 --> 02:37:49.220 Mila reaches away from death and- 02:37:49.220 --> 02:37:52.740 Wait, did you get to come and pick up the rapier, go down this middle lane. 02:37:52.740 --> 02:37:54.420 There's no way that pango should get out there. 02:37:55.080 --> 02:37:59.620 That was a risky move for Falcons that barely gets salvaged and they did not get anything they got. 02:37:59.820 --> 02:38:02.380 What, the Dark Moggo buy? The Skowfield buy? 02:38:02.820 --> 02:38:04.660 It's like they got 100 damage on that melee burn. 02:38:04.660 --> 02:38:08.120 Yeah, he did not even close, not even close. They held Glifte the entire time too. 02:38:08.120 --> 02:38:09.280 There's like one hit on it! 02:38:10.280 --> 02:38:14.320 That's another divine to swing back, but they get the pango out. 02:38:14.320 --> 02:38:16.160 I mean, that is the most important thing in that fight. 02:38:16.160 --> 02:38:18.960 Still two minutes on the buyback, cool down for Maureen and he is a mental. 02:38:19.100 --> 02:38:21.960 Completely holding this game together for Falcons at this point. 02:38:22.740 --> 02:38:25.980 It's the same performance as from both sides in these teamfights 02:38:27.700 --> 02:38:35.000 What a close game 12,000 gold on this SF right now, but he's a moonshard. He got a moonshard here. He's thinking about wind waker 02:38:37.940 --> 02:38:42.100 Which know the metrics don't matter don't look at that worth don't look at kills don't care about nothing 02:38:42.260 --> 02:38:46.820 This is about the jump out of these right now the initiation is what matters 02:38:47.260 --> 02:38:51.180 Frank leading out with a hook shot through the rocket player vision finds the rubik 02:38:51.180 --> 02:38:55.680 He's trying to plant a deep ward, a pave with his life, does have my back available. 02:38:56.680 --> 02:38:59.680 You gotta go, you gotta go now if you want to protect this rat. 02:38:59.680 --> 02:39:00.680 Cross shields on it. 02:39:01.680 --> 02:39:03.180 Congregations to the deep stunnin'. 02:39:04.180 --> 02:39:09.180 Rollin' Thunder's coming in, from a crash into the strip wave and stopped the pressure on the buildings. 02:39:09.180 --> 02:39:10.680 I want to really show this panner though. 02:39:11.180 --> 02:39:13.180 That's so difficult and frank. 02:39:13.180 --> 02:39:19.680 That BKB inspired legs just skips away while with BKBs and hits the barracks down to 30% HP, 02:39:19.680 --> 02:39:21.280 Speed but not finished off just yet. 02:39:21.280 --> 02:39:21.780 Amore. 02:39:21.780 --> 02:39:25.780 Awee Doom with a congregation standing up the slalom with that chain frostbounce. 02:39:25.780 --> 02:39:27.080 He's down and out. 02:39:27.080 --> 02:39:29.380 Track down the focus as well with the Awee Doom going. 02:39:29.380 --> 02:39:30.880 Lifelike can shred him. 02:39:30.880 --> 02:39:32.880 Opens up one and forces the buy. 02:39:32.880 --> 02:39:35.580 You have to insta buy here because Dark Moggill does not have buyback. 02:39:35.580 --> 02:39:36.980 The barracks. 02:39:36.980 --> 02:39:37.880 The counterpulse. 02:39:37.880 --> 02:39:39.380 Then glifted. 02:39:39.380 --> 02:39:42.080 A hundred health remaining. 02:39:42.080 --> 02:39:43.280 You have to threaten this right now. 02:39:43.280 --> 02:39:45.780 If you're a playtime you need to sit somebody up here, it's gonna be with. 02:39:45.780 --> 02:39:49.380 Put the pressure on Falcons with this dark moggle tieback 02:39:50.300 --> 02:39:52.300 Play the lanes right now 02:39:53.380 --> 02:39:55.180 Everybody level 30 02:39:55.180 --> 02:40:01.460 Except crit who is still looking for the last talent in this game. There's another divine for the life stealer here damage 02:40:02.460 --> 02:40:07.220 Always gonna be a master play but look at which he's still threatening this racks. You're right. It's getting healed though 02:40:07.220 --> 02:40:09.220 They got the list 30 a 02:40:09.380 --> 02:40:13.700 Master time to hit this talent. It's gonna heal this up very you can't go for it anymore 02:40:13.700 --> 02:40:19.200 Oh, sick attempt by snaking to AoE, soon as the game is the creeps, just if SF was nearby and could have caught him. 02:40:19.200 --> 02:40:23.200 And what a sick jump from Amar, we're saying what creep he's going to take, he's going to take the riverborne aura, 02:40:23.200 --> 02:40:26.200 because you get the congregation, you get that AoE stun going in. 02:40:26.200 --> 02:40:31.200 It just gives you so much time to get the extra right clicks off, look for another stun, another epistle, 02:40:31.200 --> 02:40:33.200 anything to control this SF. 02:40:33.200 --> 02:40:36.500 Is it the Slado counter as well? Slado agg's making the puddle. 02:40:36.500 --> 02:40:40.200 You've got this congregation that's up deep, amping all your team up if you're stood in it. 02:40:40.200 --> 02:40:43.200 Use it against him. Use the water against him. 02:40:43.200 --> 02:40:44.900 The Spacian amphibian! 02:40:44.900 --> 02:40:45.900 The Falcons, what are you doing? 02:40:45.900 --> 02:40:46.900 They've drowned out! 02:40:46.900 --> 02:40:47.900 What are you doing with this time? 02:40:47.900 --> 02:40:50.600 You have to get something done with the dieback on the slaughter. 02:40:50.600 --> 02:40:54.440 You have to get at least Megas here. 02:40:54.440 --> 02:40:56.720 Still getting ratted by the squirrel on the bottom lane. 02:40:56.720 --> 02:40:59.720 But you're not as worried about the rat anymore with the Lich 30. 02:40:59.720 --> 02:41:00.720 Hook shot in! 02:41:00.720 --> 02:41:01.720 Two men caught! 02:41:01.720 --> 02:41:02.720 Wrecked him! 02:41:02.720 --> 02:41:03.720 Comes in! 02:41:03.720 --> 02:41:04.720 They've hanked up the Great Rubik! 02:41:04.720 --> 02:41:05.720 He's dead! 02:41:05.720 --> 02:41:06.720 Life stealer! 02:41:06.720 --> 02:41:07.720 Got a rage and run! 02:41:07.720 --> 02:41:08.720 A playtime! 02:41:08.720 --> 02:41:09.720 Just pull it out of the bag! 02:41:09.720 --> 02:41:11.720 If Schofield says go, they say yes, sir! 02:41:11.720 --> 02:41:21.720 So aggressive and absolutely the right play call. They had the ward outside the base. Falcon's just not ready for it, not making a decisive move in this time with Dark Muggle was off the map. They might come to regret it. 02:41:22.720 --> 02:41:25.720 They were busy hunting the squirrel, found nothing. 02:41:26.720 --> 02:41:28.720 It's not the first time that's happened either. 02:41:28.720 --> 02:41:33.720 No, he's been at nuisance in this game. They get the slaughterback on the field. 02:41:34.720 --> 02:41:39.720 These last two melee rats have just proved it to be insanely difficult to bring down. 02:41:39.720 --> 02:41:43.320 It's so funny, it's a divine comedy, at least you buildings stay standing. 02:41:44.600 --> 02:41:47.080 Playtime straight back to that pressure point, top lane. 02:41:48.760 --> 02:41:51.880 It's perhaps easier for them to play because they have that racks on bottom. 02:41:52.680 --> 02:41:54.840 And they have the extra book from the squirrel. 02:41:55.680 --> 02:41:58.600 I don't think anybody else has a network right now, it's only him. 02:41:58.600 --> 02:41:59.120 Yeah. 02:41:59.120 --> 02:42:00.280 Falcon's opting just... 02:42:01.200 --> 02:42:02.160 double dissoon, 02:42:02.640 --> 02:42:03.320 Stygian, 02:42:03.440 --> 02:42:04.560 pure offensive. 02:42:05.120 --> 02:42:07.120 Falcon's, they thought the push was going to be coming. 02:42:07.120 --> 02:42:11.960 They're expecting the Colombo to clear the bar, they're going to find him down in that bottom jungle, 02:42:11.960 --> 02:42:16.320 Hacks up, surrounded, the Falcons, they assumed the move would come to the barracks, 02:42:16.320 --> 02:42:21.120 but instead, it's the hunt of the Doom down in that bottom jungle, BKB, he can't blink away, 02:42:21.120 --> 02:42:24.320 Dog Mago in this, Shadowfiend of Width, clear him out. 02:42:24.320 --> 02:42:29.120 Once again, the clockwork proving it's worth, these Rocketflare's on the map, just finding these heroes, 02:42:29.120 --> 02:42:34.520 trying to get a little bit of rat action done, or a little extra farming, punishes them, gets the D-Ward. 02:42:34.520 --> 02:42:41.520 No more vision on the map for Falcons outside of that really top-obs they just placed, looking for the rats on the side of the map. 02:42:42.520 --> 02:42:44.520 It does have buyback on the Duke though. 02:42:45.520 --> 02:42:50.520 And Grooche. Grooche is available. I don't know how useful it is anymore, but you can take it. 02:42:51.520 --> 02:42:52.520 Grooche number five or six? 02:42:52.520 --> 02:42:54.520 Nobody's nine so I'll see it. 02:42:55.520 --> 02:43:00.520 Shatterfiend's wandering around with no room left. His pockets are full. 02:43:00.520 --> 02:43:05.520 Happy to hold all these items. 02:43:05.520 --> 02:43:08.120 Still holding divine rape here. 02:43:08.120 --> 02:43:10.600 Arcane, Rune, Chateauphine, Straton, and Midlane. 02:43:10.600 --> 02:43:12.760 It's at the point where you don't even want to take Rose because you don't want to have 02:43:12.760 --> 02:43:16.440 to think about what do we do with the items. 02:43:16.440 --> 02:43:18.360 It's just too difficult to figure out. 02:43:18.360 --> 02:43:19.360 It's just Aegis, right? 02:43:19.360 --> 02:43:20.360 Everything else is... 02:43:20.360 --> 02:43:21.360 I don't even know at this point. 02:43:21.360 --> 02:43:22.360 You still have to refresh your charge from the one earlier. 02:43:22.360 --> 02:43:24.860 Put an Aegis on this SF. 02:43:24.860 --> 02:43:27.480 I think that is the biggest key here. 02:43:27.480 --> 02:43:32.280 Both the Swatter and the SF wanted, but I think Wits eats it in order to go finish this last melee Racer. 02:43:32.280 --> 02:43:33.480 They have a chance of doing it. 02:43:34.680 --> 02:43:38.680 I don't know what episode of the Logo show we're on now, but this is where you all stared it on the ground. 02:43:38.680 --> 02:43:40.480 He will drop Silver Edge for it. 02:43:41.080 --> 02:43:43.680 Okay, Squirrel just got annihilated. 02:43:43.680 --> 02:43:47.680 Man, the Hookshot hit the SF in the back of the hand so they don't catch up to the lifestealer. 02:43:47.680 --> 02:43:48.680 Can Molly get out of here though? 02:43:48.680 --> 02:43:50.880 Ration Hookshot, of course, Scofield can. 02:43:51.080 --> 02:43:52.080 Finds the angle. 02:43:52.480 --> 02:43:53.280 I need to punish this. 02:43:53.280 --> 02:43:57.080 He'll refresh, roll, try and all on the ground, but that damage from Wits is too much. 02:43:57.080 --> 02:44:03.020 That was not worth it. They lost the divine for that. Yeah, and they're gonna have to probably use Maulry by which is 02:44:03.160 --> 02:44:05.160 Maybe the biggest buy in this game 02:44:07.840 --> 02:44:09.840 Monstrous performance 02:44:10.360 --> 02:44:14.080 Divine magic divine on Largo now even Frank's got to get the job done 02:44:17.720 --> 02:44:21.560 We've had 60 minute games 70 my games about a 90 minute game 02:44:21.560 --> 02:44:25.560 120,000 damage from Skeeter? 02:44:25.560 --> 02:44:27.560 I'm not even done yet. 02:44:27.560 --> 02:44:29.560 Not even a real number. 02:44:29.560 --> 02:44:31.560 Like that's Zeus levels of damage. 02:44:31.560 --> 02:44:33.560 In a long ass game, you just say, 02:44:33.560 --> 02:44:35.560 oh, I'm doing it anyway. 02:44:35.560 --> 02:44:37.560 Three and a half thousand damage out of the Shadowfiend 02:44:37.560 --> 02:44:39.560 in a matter of seconds. 02:44:39.560 --> 02:44:40.560 I mean, I guess technically, life stealers 02:44:40.560 --> 02:44:41.560 are infinitely scaling here. 02:44:41.560 --> 02:44:42.560 That's true. 02:44:42.560 --> 02:44:44.560 Time is on Falcon's side. 02:44:44.560 --> 02:44:46.560 He's boosting up that feast chart. 02:44:46.560 --> 02:44:49.560 He's feasting over a thousand feast HP. 02:44:49.560 --> 02:44:59.760 It's quite nice here when you're fully itemized for damage that needs to be counts for a lot. 02:44:59.760 --> 02:45:04.400 And they still can't go high ground. 02:45:04.400 --> 02:45:06.720 You gotta do something with this Aegis Spirit. 02:45:06.720 --> 02:45:08.800 You have all your buybacks coming up. 02:45:08.800 --> 02:45:12.160 I'm already dead for 50 seconds. 02:45:12.160 --> 02:45:14.240 It's time to go. 02:45:14.240 --> 02:45:16.240 I have to make a move. 02:45:16.240 --> 02:45:18.240 Rit and Frank. 02:45:18.240 --> 02:45:20.240 Push the lead. 02:45:20.240 --> 02:45:22.240 L.A. Barrett is standing and watching. 02:45:22.240 --> 02:45:24.240 There's playtime approaches. 02:45:25.240 --> 02:45:27.240 Spiderman Frog scouting something out. 02:45:27.240 --> 02:45:29.240 They're gonna send the book in. 02:45:29.240 --> 02:45:31.240 With the Glyft. 02:45:31.240 --> 02:45:33.240 Was that a misclick? I don't know. 02:45:33.240 --> 02:45:35.240 That had to have been a misclick. That's a massive misclick. 02:45:35.240 --> 02:45:37.240 That's bad. Why? 02:45:37.240 --> 02:45:39.240 Glyft down. Glyft down. 02:45:39.240 --> 02:45:42.240 Shediffin moves in. Life stealer trying to charge forward with the early doom coming. 02:45:42.240 --> 02:45:43.040 Oh, I can't get it. 02:45:43.040 --> 02:45:45.200 Advice, though, that cut him back the SF! 02:45:45.200 --> 02:45:48.480 He'll die once, but our Falcons stuck down in the bog as this 02:45:48.480 --> 02:45:50.400 Slotar's gonna turn to the Crucifix. 02:45:50.400 --> 02:45:52.560 James Frost and Spive are about back in. 02:45:52.560 --> 02:45:56.560 Skidder, Hop and Key, they've killed off Wett, and now they've moved on to Schofield! 02:45:56.560 --> 02:45:57.360 Two down! 02:45:58.400 --> 02:46:00.880 A re-severing Falcons still holding buybacks. 02:46:00.880 --> 02:46:04.800 They'll lose the Lich and the Doom, sure, but they can return to the battlefield in a matter of seconds. 02:46:04.800 --> 02:46:05.760 And Crit is hunting. 02:46:05.760 --> 02:46:06.640 Another roll forward. 02:46:06.640 --> 02:46:08.240 They'll find the Darmagos Slotar. 02:46:08.240 --> 02:46:12.080 He's gonna get caught here by Maureen, but no, he decides to go back to the Squirrel, of course. 02:46:12.080 --> 02:46:13.600 There was an annoying target on the map! 02:46:13.600 --> 02:46:14.100 Double buy! 02:46:14.100 --> 02:46:17.600 I triple the Skinner and triple buy out of this radiant side! 02:46:17.600 --> 02:46:19.400 They are committed to this push right now. 02:46:19.400 --> 02:46:22.640 Playtime, they see this is the moment we have to go in. 02:46:22.640 --> 02:46:24.880 No rolling thunders for 30 seconds. 02:46:24.880 --> 02:46:26.840 That's the biggest window you're gonna get here. 02:46:28.280 --> 02:46:30.720 Define Ravier back on the SF. 02:46:30.720 --> 02:46:32.640 Well, it goes to the high ground one more time. 02:46:32.640 --> 02:46:33.800 From here, though. 02:46:34.800 --> 02:46:35.640 You have to do it! 02:46:35.640 --> 02:46:37.120 Like, this is a... 02:46:37.120 --> 02:46:38.000 You fought for this. 02:46:38.000 --> 02:46:40.880 Nice to jump on a slot on it, but it's a plane and a damage from Skinner. 02:46:40.880 --> 02:46:42.240 It looks good, but is it enough? 02:46:42.240 --> 02:46:43.120 They've nullified! 02:46:43.120 --> 02:46:44.320 He gets the infest off! 02:46:44.320 --> 02:46:46.880 What a great choice to slow down and drag back to the Shadowfiend, though! 02:46:46.880 --> 02:46:47.840 PUSHED BY A COURSE! 02:46:47.840 --> 02:46:49.040 Life's just a little stuck! 02:46:49.040 --> 02:46:49.840 He needs to turn! 02:46:49.840 --> 02:46:51.760 Has the buyback available, though! 02:46:51.760 --> 02:46:54.480 Gonna have to pop it here, instantly! 02:46:54.480 --> 02:46:56.400 And I'm rolling thunder to catch the squirrel! 02:46:56.400 --> 02:46:57.920 Another one on Almi's show! 02:46:57.920 --> 02:47:01.280 Buys it little by the time, but delaying the inevitable demise! 02:47:01.280 --> 02:47:03.040 Two minutes without her! 02:47:03.040 --> 02:47:05.040 You gotta get the hell out now. 02:47:05.040 --> 02:47:06.320 In these two traded buys... 02:47:06.320 --> 02:47:07.200 Malread! 02:47:07.200 --> 02:47:08.480 Always coming for ya! 02:47:08.480 --> 02:47:09.680 The two-man connection! 02:47:09.680 --> 02:47:14.060 Shadowfiend, gets with a distance, get over the gap, try and bridge away! 02:47:14.060 --> 02:47:18.060 Frank, the poor Frog, gobbled up by the lifestealer. 02:47:18.060 --> 02:47:21.620 The Hookshot int was to protect Dark Margo, but they can't do it, can they? 02:47:21.620 --> 02:47:22.440 Falcons? 02:47:22.440 --> 02:47:24.520 Wits, you're fresh as you might go back in. 02:47:24.520 --> 02:47:26.940 This infested pango is problematic. 02:47:26.940 --> 02:47:28.780 Dark Margo goes in on the Rubik. 02:47:28.780 --> 02:47:33.420 BKB back up again, Wits being patient, delaying the jump, but he can't find an opening. 02:47:33.420 --> 02:47:35.180 They need to double by luck again. 02:47:35.180 --> 02:47:39.860 Frog and fish, in tandem, trunk the pair together, another hook shot! 02:47:39.860 --> 02:47:42.300 Scofield finds an opening for the rectum as well! 02:47:42.300 --> 02:47:42.800 No rectum! 02:47:42.800 --> 02:47:44.060 Here we doom! 02:47:44.060 --> 02:47:46.100 Oh, Amar does it to him and withs! 02:47:46.100 --> 02:47:48.300 He's stood up and killed! 02:47:48.300 --> 02:47:52.940 Here we is, so big, the chase on Fracta Frog doesn't last long! 02:47:52.940 --> 02:47:57.100 It's looking bad now for playtime as the fish is found! 02:47:57.100 --> 02:47:59.220 No buybacks available! 02:47:59.220 --> 02:48:00.700 Falcons! 02:48:00.700 --> 02:48:03.460 95 minutes of bloody madness! 02:48:03.460 --> 02:48:09.780 Just a massacre in the top lane, Witt's waited so damn long to try and turn that fight with the second go-off to our fresher. 02:48:09.780 --> 02:48:12.980 And all he found was Dumar waiting for him. 02:48:12.980 --> 02:48:16.140 Massive AoE with the Shiva's Desun. 02:48:16.140 --> 02:48:18.700 You cannot escape the AoE Doom. 02:48:19.200 --> 02:48:24.020 And that is going to be all the buybacks down for playtime. It should be Falco's running this down mid. 02:48:24.320 --> 02:48:28.540 As all they can do is wait and watch with a scope field clockwork. 02:48:28.540 --> 02:48:33.540 And they're blessed by an amplified damage rune, which Amara is just gonna take and run down his mid lane. 02:48:33.540 --> 02:48:35.540 He's getting my lane. 02:48:35.540 --> 02:48:37.540 Already in the base, and I know, GG call! 02:48:37.540 --> 02:48:40.540 Tap out! Ninety-six minutes of gameplay! 02:48:40.540 --> 02:48:44.540 Absolute cinema, there's nothing else to say. 02:48:44.540 --> 02:48:51.540 Falcons hide it in their wheelhouse, they grind it out, rank things late, go super long in the game! 02:48:51.540 --> 02:48:52.540 What even is that game? 02:48:52.540 --> 02:49:00.040 The intro was in despair mode 20 minutes ago, now it runs on his face as Crit is just looking like he's got PTSD. 02:49:01.040 --> 02:49:07.040 It's hard to be salty after that game, it's just a total shit-fest in the late game, no way around it. 02:49:07.040 --> 02:49:12.040 What a stat line from Skeeter, he ends this game 32, 10 and 19. 02:49:12.040 --> 02:49:17.040 One of the more ridiculous games I've ever seen, 150,000 damage coming out from this life stealer. 02:49:17.040 --> 02:49:24.400 closest was 87. Like this life stealer put in work and work and more work to get 02:49:24.400 --> 02:49:31.320 the job done here. A disgusting performance. Pangolier, Dota, triple 02:49:31.320 --> 02:49:35.840 dissoon, too much doom control to work with. They can't kite it out. This game 02:49:35.840 --> 02:49:40.720 was playtimes at certain points, but goddamn that is Falcons in a nutshell. 02:49:40.720 --> 02:49:44.880 They're down kills in this game. They never even got the megas. One of the 02:49:44.880 --> 02:49:50.840 more disgustingly rough games for Amar on one of his signature heroes, but he stuck through 02:49:50.840 --> 02:49:54.360 it and still found the clutch openings in the late game with the congregation stunts 02:49:54.360 --> 02:50:00.240 into the massive AOE. That's Falcon's Total Manlight. I think they are the worst team 02:50:00.240 --> 02:50:05.240 to be up on because you know they will find a way to drag it out. They will find those 02:50:05.240 --> 02:50:09.720 little openings and make that game difficult and sometimes just turn it completely. What 02:50:09.720 --> 02:50:10.720 happened? 02:50:10.720 --> 02:50:20.720 My mind just goes back to, you know, that Shaddafine dying in that mid lane, the little lapses of concentration from playtime, Falken's super focused as they'll take game one in one hour, 36 minutes. 02:50:23.720 --> 02:50:27.720 So, yeah, I think, oh man, the first highlight starts at 47 minutes into the game. 02:50:27.720 --> 02:50:28.720 What about the ring? 02:50:28.720 --> 02:50:32.720 I wanted to talk about GoField's rotation in minutes six now. 02:50:33.720 --> 02:50:37.720 They traded. It was two for two, first bound to the ring. 02:50:37.720 --> 02:50:43.720 Exactly, and then there was a wisdom rune that eventually cascaded him into a 90 minute game! 02:50:44.720 --> 02:50:47.720 I don't even know where to start, like I think... 02:50:47.720 --> 02:50:50.720 What do you usually say after these type of games? 02:50:50.720 --> 02:50:53.720 You want to keep things short or do you like... 02:50:53.720 --> 02:50:56.720 Let's keep this for later. 02:50:56.720 --> 02:50:58.720 Were there any moments that you think stood out to you? 02:50:58.720 --> 02:51:03.720 There was the tilt doom right before this play where Amar got killed on the other side of the map 02:51:03.720 --> 02:51:08.360 map and as he was dying just dooms go field for the sake of it and then didn't have it for this 02:51:08.360 --> 02:51:12.760 fight and I feel like that actually kind of baited play time into a fight like this. There was 02:51:12.760 --> 02:51:18.840 multiple times also a skitter like rage infested go field when they were trying to take the bot 02:51:18.840 --> 02:51:23.960 racks. Yeah literally rage infested. And then he died with the rapier which was probably like his 02:51:23.960 --> 02:51:31.720 third rapier. There was this glyph that we don't know if it was... Go to www.whoglyph.com and check 02:51:31.720 --> 02:51:33.840 Who did it was it intentional? Was it a bait? 02:51:35.840 --> 02:51:41.400 Okay, we need to interview them and ask them if the good thing was intentional or who misclicked it 02:51:41.400 --> 02:51:46.960 Yeah, cuz I'm really curious dude scared at 32 kills. There's no way let's do life ever had that many kills before 02:51:47.560 --> 02:51:50.640 1009 like 1200 stacks of feast 02:51:53.680 --> 02:51:58.760 But I do may we this guy is the best clockwork flare 02:51:58.760 --> 02:52:07.080 We made this hero so much better after we swapped the AoE to Sheeva's and now you're buying that at the end of the game 02:52:07.080 --> 02:52:11.720 They had 3D's 3D's not neutral items on side of Falcons 02:52:11.880 --> 02:52:18.340 It's just makes everything better for you. It's better scorch earth better bigger AoE doom bigger Sheeva's 02:52:18.880 --> 02:52:23.240 Bigger agatum scepter is just congregation of the deep congregation 02:52:23.240 --> 02:52:27.580 And I was thinking about something tsunami in that game because you're fighting against slaughter 02:52:27.580 --> 02:52:32.460 You're fighting you have this river board aura which gives you 16% increased damage or fighting in the water 02:52:32.540 --> 02:52:39.900 Which means whenever starter uses stun or corrosive haze in 1200 AOE your team is dealing 16% more damage 02:52:39.900 --> 02:52:44.500 It's all the team. Yeah, it's an aura. It's an aura. That's why he was dying so fast 02:52:44.500 --> 02:52:48.500 It's what the nakes is like one-shotting people with I mean he has rapier, but still 02:52:48.900 --> 02:52:50.900 Nakes was doing it 02:52:50.900 --> 02:52:57.200 And it's three melee heroes, so you kind of have it on the all the time because you're fighting around your allies as well 02:52:57.200 --> 02:53:03.280 Who have corrosive haze and also sleutering crush as well creates a little puddle 400 a we I feel like I've learned two 02:53:03.420 --> 02:53:08.160 Interactions in Dota in the last two days that like how many more are there ever gonna be the enchantress one with the 02:53:08.160 --> 02:53:09.960 rabble rouser on the road of the dead 02:53:09.960 --> 02:53:15.240 Yeah, look at the dead now that the kind of thing you only see in 60 plus minute games all these tier 5 non 02:53:15.240 --> 02:53:19.200 90 plus 90 plus minute games. This is where the bar is said. I 02:53:20.900 --> 02:53:24.900 Don't know how the rest of the series is going to match up to this. 02:53:24.900 --> 02:53:27.900 I feel like the next game is going to be like a 25 minutes long. 02:53:27.900 --> 02:53:29.900 I know, I feel so scared. 02:53:29.900 --> 02:53:34.900 Okay, I will say though, I think Playtime played better for the first like 45 minutes. 02:53:34.900 --> 02:53:36.900 I think they just straight out outclassed Falkens. 02:53:36.900 --> 02:53:37.900 I don't even think it was particularly close. 02:53:37.900 --> 02:53:42.900 I think Falkens kind of looked scared and frantic and Playtime was on them. 02:53:42.900 --> 02:53:44.900 Like they were the aggressors the entire game. 02:53:44.900 --> 02:53:48.900 And then eventually, to be honest, they kind of just got out clutched by experience. 02:53:48.900 --> 02:53:53.740 a team that has played late game Dota for like their entire existence, so it's a bit unfair. 02:53:53.740 --> 02:53:56.500 They've got like hours two thousand in the background telling them you do this and you do that. 02:53:56.940 --> 02:54:02.180 So it's like it's a bit unfair, but I think overall playtime did really really well 02:54:02.180 --> 02:54:03.660 and I hope for the second game 02:54:03.660 --> 02:54:05.300 they don't get bogged down in 02:54:05.300 --> 02:54:10.760 distance sanity and they just play well again because I think if you ran this back playtime would win most of the time. 02:54:11.900 --> 02:54:12.660 I 02:54:12.660 --> 02:54:18.420 I think Lich is a menace. It's probably one of the best, if not the best five in the late game right now 02:54:18.420 --> 02:54:20.260 We are seeing it for a good reason 02:54:20.260 --> 02:54:23.020 We don't see level 30 Lich often 02:54:23.020 --> 02:54:29.840 But he also has unlimited Chain Frost, Chain Frost on death, and he gets the solo kill people in the late game 02:54:29.840 --> 02:54:32.500 Plus also that shield that heals. It was pretty insane 02:54:32.500 --> 02:54:36.920 I also thought that Falcons might pick up Crimson Guard because they had only one Rax left 02:54:36.920 --> 02:54:37.820 But nobody picked it up 02:54:37.820 --> 02:54:40.740 This is something that Spirit did before where they had double Crimson 02:54:40.740 --> 02:54:44.420 This is something that Bedboom did as well when they were defending their barracks when they were defending their throne 02:54:44.420 --> 02:54:46.340 So gotta keep an eye on that one 02:54:46.340 --> 02:54:49.820 There's always like some kind of a small play that looks small, but it's actually pretty big 02:54:49.820 --> 02:54:54.860 That reminds me of the good old days where people would buy like 20 helm dumps and then drop them in their base 02:54:54.860 --> 02:55:01.540 Yeah, there's all there's always some you know min maxing that can happen that only applies to 60 plus minute games 02:55:02.020 --> 02:55:05.700 Has there ever been a 90 plus minute game with no Megas? 02:55:05.700 --> 02:55:06.700 That's true. 02:55:06.700 --> 02:55:09.700 Did they not even get them before they ended the game? 02:55:09.700 --> 02:55:11.700 No, Dark Marko Colt is even before they get hit in front. 02:55:11.700 --> 02:55:12.700 Yeah, I threw you. 02:55:12.700 --> 02:55:15.700 After this whole game you didn't even get to hit the base. 02:55:15.700 --> 02:55:20.700 You're not giving you the satisfaction after all this heartache. 02:55:20.700 --> 02:55:23.700 I think there's more of a lack of faith in Schofield to clutch it. 02:55:23.700 --> 02:55:24.700 No, maybe. 02:55:24.700 --> 02:55:25.700 He was still alive. 02:55:25.700 --> 02:55:27.700 Give him a chance. 02:55:27.700 --> 02:55:29.700 Yeah, he was going to base race. 02:55:29.700 --> 02:55:31.700 No, he was going to take him down. 02:55:31.700 --> 02:55:32.700 He had Blink Hax. 02:55:32.700 --> 02:55:34.700 He could hex one guy, hook the other guy. 02:55:34.700 --> 02:55:40.940 But no, I mean that is pretty funny denying the satisfaction of literally the purpose of the game hitting the ancient 02:55:42.180 --> 02:55:47.780 Okay, we are going to collect ourselves because I hear a horn in the distance and 02:55:49.460 --> 02:55:54.900 Is that is that Avery Avery what you're still here Avery what's going on? 02:55:55.900 --> 02:55:57.900 Fuck if I don't 02:55:57.900 --> 02:55:59.340 I have no idea. 02:55:59.340 --> 02:56:00.700 I'll tell you what's going on. 02:56:00.700 --> 02:56:04.980 Earlier you had some grievances about our fishing. 02:56:04.980 --> 02:56:05.480 I did. 02:56:05.480 --> 02:56:09.940 And you wanted to put under a microscope, under a magnifying glass, 02:56:09.940 --> 02:56:13.620 if your time was indeed faster than our posh and panda bob. 02:56:13.620 --> 02:56:13.980 That's right. 02:56:13.980 --> 02:56:14.940 I'm very confident. 02:56:14.940 --> 02:56:15.700 You're confident? 02:56:15.700 --> 02:56:16.020 Yes. 02:56:16.020 --> 02:56:16.520 OK. 02:56:16.520 --> 02:56:19.060 And except I'm not now because the fact that they're doing this 02:56:19.060 --> 02:56:20.420 means I'm probably wrong. 02:56:20.420 --> 02:56:21.740 Because you think they want to shame you publicly? 02:56:21.740 --> 02:56:22.140 Yeah. 02:56:22.140 --> 02:56:23.300 That's usually what happens. 02:56:23.300 --> 02:56:23.620 All right. 02:56:23.620 --> 02:56:24.500 I'll take the shame. 02:56:24.500 --> 02:56:25.180 That's fine. 02:56:25.180 --> 02:56:27.840 Let's run the tapes and see who fished faster. 02:56:31.680 --> 02:56:32.520 How's it looking? 02:56:33.620 --> 02:56:35.380 I think Bob's more locked in, honestly. 02:56:35.380 --> 02:56:36.220 Yeah? 02:56:36.220 --> 02:56:37.480 Every kind of looks like a patager. 02:56:37.480 --> 02:56:38.320 Oh! 02:56:38.320 --> 02:56:39.160 Oh! 02:56:39.160 --> 02:56:40.000 Oh! 02:56:40.000 --> 02:56:40.840 Oh! 02:56:40.840 --> 02:56:41.680 Oh! 02:56:41.680 --> 02:56:42.520 Interesting! 02:56:42.520 --> 02:56:44.020 Interesting, Neil. 02:56:44.020 --> 02:56:44.860 Interesting. 02:56:44.860 --> 02:56:47.260 I think this belongs here, actually. 02:56:47.260 --> 02:56:48.420 Very interesting. 02:56:48.420 --> 02:56:49.260 Oh, I'm sorry, Neil. 02:56:49.260 --> 02:56:50.180 I beg to differ. 02:56:50.180 --> 02:56:54.580 I think a different hat will fit him more appropriately. 02:56:54.580 --> 02:57:00.740 There they go. You are indeed the champion of DreamLeague Season 29 fishing. 02:57:00.740 --> 02:57:01.860 Thank you. What did I win? 02:57:03.220 --> 02:57:04.340 Our adoration. 02:57:05.780 --> 02:57:07.060 Nothing but our deepest respect. 02:57:07.060 --> 02:57:09.220 I knew I was right by the way. Sorry Bob. 02:57:10.180 --> 02:57:11.860 I didn't want to do it to you, but like... 02:57:12.980 --> 02:57:18.180 Binner's killing you Bob. You don't get that 10k split, but you still have to kick me out for a dinner. 02:57:18.740 --> 02:57:23.860 And what it's looking like is we'll have dinner probably by the end of game number two with 02:57:23.860 --> 02:57:31.140 how long things are going. That was the wrap-up of a 90-minute long game number one. We are only 02:57:31.140 --> 02:57:35.140 maybe even a third of the way through this series. Stick around everyone and we'll be back with 02:57:35.140 --> 02:57:38.140 Game number two of Falcons versus playtime. 02:58:35.140 --> 02:58:40.140 Everybody's talkin' bout the looms and turnin' round 02:58:40.140 --> 02:58:43.140 Listen what the plancha keeps 02:58:43.140 --> 02:58:46.140 You got to breathe in, let it out 02:58:46.140 --> 02:58:48.140 Bubbin' in the hometown 02:58:48.140 --> 02:58:53.140 Turnin' up and rockin' your feet, feet, feet, feet 02:59:35.140 --> 02:59:43.140 Then let it out, put it in the hometown, turning up the rock to the beat, beat, beat, beat 03:00:05.140 --> 03:00:15.140 One, two, three. 03:01:05.140 --> 03:01:09.140 It's so hard to be a student like this 03:01:09.140 --> 03:01:13.140 Yeah, the rush I get is on another level 03:01:13.140 --> 03:01:17.140 Going round my head when I'm with you 03:01:17.140 --> 03:01:20.140 Gonna set me off and watch it shine 03:01:20.140 --> 03:01:24.140 Go on the trees, set a dream and I'm put on line 03:01:24.140 --> 03:01:28.140 Gonna lose myself and dance all night 03:01:28.140 --> 03:01:31.140 But we're living on this line 03:01:31.140 --> 03:01:34.140 We're living on this line 03:01:34.140 --> 03:01:37.140 You make me so alive 03:01:37.140 --> 03:01:40.140 Come back again, baby 03:01:42.140 --> 03:01:45.140 You make me so alive 03:01:45.140 --> 03:01:48.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 03:02:04.140 --> 03:02:06.900 Just wanna live it now or never 03:02:06.900 --> 03:02:10.620 It's so hard to beat a moment like this 03:02:10.620 --> 03:02:14.540 Get a rush, I get it's on another level 03:02:14.540 --> 03:02:18.380 Going round and around when I'm with you 03:02:18.380 --> 03:02:21.900 Gonna set me off and watch it shine 03:02:21.900 --> 03:02:25.980 Come on, let's change that dream and put on light 03:02:25.980 --> 03:02:29.580 Gonna lose myself and dance all night 03:02:29.580 --> 03:02:32.220 We'll live it all, man, it's fine 03:02:32.220 --> 03:02:42.220 You make me feel so alive Come on, let's get this baby out 03:02:42.220 --> 03:02:49.220 You make me feel so alive Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 03:02:49.220 --> 03:02:57.220 You make me feel so alive Come on, let's get this baby out 03:02:57.220 --> 03:03:02.800 Hey, you make me feel so hot 03:03:12.780 --> 03:03:16.780 You make me, you make me, you make me feel so good 03:03:16.780 --> 03:03:21.200 You make me, you make me, you make me feel so cool 03:03:21.200 --> 03:03:22.400 The walls in my face 03:03:22.400 --> 03:03:25.460 You make me feel so alive 03:03:25.460 --> 03:03:27.460 Come on now, yeah, let's do this 03:03:29.460 --> 03:03:31.460 You make me feel so alive 03:03:33.460 --> 03:03:35.460 You make me feel so good 03:03:55.460 --> 03:04:13.060 Well, well, well, it is, let's see, we've been live for about two and a half hours now. 03:04:13.060 --> 03:04:17.260 And we're getting ready for the second game of the day. 03:04:17.260 --> 03:04:20.660 There are three series of Dota scheduled to be played today. 03:04:20.660 --> 03:04:25.180 This one's an elimination series and one of these two teams is gonna have to play the 03:04:25.180 --> 03:04:31.340 third series of the night and Tundra also were succumbing to potentially stamina issues because 03:04:31.340 --> 03:04:35.660 they had a very long game with Xtreme. There are a game number three yesterday in the first 03:04:35.660 --> 03:04:41.020 series of the day. That was 55 into 60 plus into 70 plus in a game and that's the second series that 03:04:41.020 --> 03:04:47.500 they played. They look trained. Yes, definitely. So I mean Quinn, do these back-to-back series days 03:04:47.500 --> 03:04:52.540 weigh on you even if it's an online tournament? It's still, it's a lot of energy. Yeah, it's, 03:04:52.540 --> 03:04:57.100 It's really hard, genuinely. I think it's one of the most difficult things to overcome. 03:04:57.100 --> 03:05:01.340 And I think it's the single hardest part of doing lower bracket runs, is when you've got that double day. 03:05:01.340 --> 03:05:07.580 Surviving that second series is very difficult, especially in a meta like this, where it's super long games. 03:05:07.580 --> 03:05:13.020 It is a drag. So, and not to mention, you've got to play the lower bracket final and the grand final last day. 03:05:13.020 --> 03:05:16.380 And that's the hardest one of all, because the final grand final is so long. 03:05:16.380 --> 03:05:19.820 And it also, I think it feels different emotionally than the rest of the series. 03:05:19.820 --> 03:05:22.980 So there's a reason not many teams win from a lower bracket run. 03:05:22.980 --> 03:05:23.980 Yeah. 03:05:23.980 --> 03:05:29.540 I've always been, so I know there's opposing theories on whether lower bracket finals should 03:05:29.540 --> 03:05:31.340 be played on the same day as grand finals. 03:05:31.340 --> 03:05:36.820 I find that coming from like a fighting game kind of thing, there's a winner bracket advantage. 03:05:36.820 --> 03:05:40.100 And the advantage is that you don't have to play earlier in the day, and you get to watch 03:05:40.100 --> 03:05:41.420 the first series the day. 03:05:41.420 --> 03:05:45.020 But I also see the other side where like, if you want the most competitive grand finals, 03:05:45.020 --> 03:05:47.340 shouldn't both teams be at like max capacity? 03:05:47.340 --> 03:05:51.020 We have like a statistic all time of like every tournament ever. 03:05:51.020 --> 03:05:55.620 I think TI's we've gotten the statistic in previous TI's on successful lower bracket 03:05:55.620 --> 03:05:56.620 final and grand final. 03:05:56.620 --> 03:05:57.620 Yes. 03:05:57.620 --> 03:05:59.860 I don't know what the number is though, but it is the minority. 03:05:59.860 --> 03:06:03.260 I was like a significant doing lower than the previous. 03:06:03.260 --> 03:06:05.700 Statistic for one of the previous Valakia's as well. 03:06:05.700 --> 03:06:09.900 It is kind of rare to have like the full lower bracket run. 03:06:09.900 --> 03:06:11.420 It's like super rare in Dota. 03:06:11.420 --> 03:06:14.180 It happened I don't know like seven to ten times or something. 03:06:14.180 --> 03:06:20.260 Yeah, you have to win, you know, the lower bracket this day and the day after the grand finals days 03:06:20.260 --> 03:06:25.620 So it is very difficult. You're definitely definitely at the distance. If I recall Team Spirit did it at TI 10, right? 03:06:25.620 --> 03:06:30.020 They got knocked down and pushed around and made it entirely. OG did it as well. Liquid did it. 03:06:30.020 --> 03:06:32.020 Okay, so 03:06:32.020 --> 03:06:35.980 It's doable, huh? It's doable. Yeah, I mean, I imagine it's less than 50% 03:06:35.980 --> 03:06:42.300 I'm wondering how often is it less than 50% because of the lower bracket final into the final versus 03:06:42.300 --> 03:06:45.400 There's a reason why the team came from the winter bracket. Yeah fun 03:06:45.400 --> 03:06:51.340 And the other argument is that is the lower bracket run giving you more experience because you're playing more games 03:06:51.860 --> 03:06:57.160 It is but I I think like if finals is on a separate day 03:06:57.160 --> 03:07:01.540 I think lower bracket would win about 50-50. I think you could argue it would win more 03:07:01.540 --> 03:07:08.180 But I think this on the same day is extremely significant as a better like it is like the I think if anything 03:07:08.180 --> 03:07:11.100 I think the smash the smash wave doing it where you play two finals 03:07:11.100 --> 03:07:15.820 That's the realistic for time a grand final reset. I think that is a less 03:07:16.380 --> 03:07:19.580 Upper-racket favored then stay on the same day really yes 03:07:19.580 --> 03:07:24.860 I think same day is more disadvantageous than playing two finals. Well, okay, wow I 03:07:25.940 --> 03:07:31.340 Remember the only advantage or the only time I read that the amount of games played seemed like a significant disadvantage 03:07:31.340 --> 03:07:34.340 At least statistically was it started around the animator 03:07:34.740 --> 03:07:39.620 Where they started like trying these formats of tournaments. Oh, yeah, if you won the group you're instantly seated 03:07:39.620 --> 03:07:46.220 Yeah, and then you have to like play an extra group stage on every other placement and all the teams that won their group in that tournament 03:07:46.220 --> 03:07:51.620 lost lost the first round and they actually I think all of them bombed out two games in a row 03:07:51.620 --> 03:07:55.700 Yeah, actually, so yeah, I think though there are a couple of tournaments that formatted like that 03:07:55.700 --> 03:07:59.420 So I do think if there's a massive discrepancy in game game 03:08:00.460 --> 03:08:04.940 Quantity then that will matter but not as much if it's like, you know 5-10 game difference 03:08:04.940 --> 03:08:12.540 But yeah, okay, so we see the Largobah coming out again, but on the other no, it's breaking absolute overall first pick though 03:08:13.500 --> 03:08:16.320 And after banning out the pango and of the huskar 03:08:16.940 --> 03:08:23.540 And as Falcons continue to respect the wits Necro along with the enchantress fans gofield's clockwork gets bumped up 03:08:23.540 --> 03:08:26.940 So maybe that's why Largo was alternative as a first pick 03:08:26.940 --> 03:08:31.260 I want to see if they're gonna be addressing this slaughter cuz Dark Mago 03:08:31.260 --> 03:08:37.760 He was the one who was carrying the team. He had insanely good game early and he was pretty much part of every single kill, 03:08:37.760 --> 03:08:40.960 every single rotation that he was doing, glove atomization as well. 03:08:40.960 --> 03:08:44.860 He was the one picking up first ages, doesn't really matter in a 90-minute game, 03:08:44.860 --> 03:08:51.060 but they realize who was gonna be the guy who is gonna be pretty much joining every single fight. 03:08:51.060 --> 03:08:55.260 That's not gonna be SF, it's gonna be Slaughter and with the Ekko Saber as well, the double hit, 03:08:56.260 --> 03:08:59.060 increasing your chances on the bash as well, feels really good. 03:08:59.060 --> 03:09:03.300 to kind of have a guaranteed bash playing against Leicester, which did cause a lot of issues early on. 03:09:04.900 --> 03:09:09.620 Yeah, and also the Kunkka and Storm are not banned, so Dark Laguz got all his heroes in the pool, 03:09:09.620 --> 03:09:13.460 so he can slaughter, he can pick the Kunkka, Storm, any of his heroes he'll get. 03:09:14.020 --> 03:09:20.660 Quentin, a question for you. Yeah, back in my days, there was a period of time where you had unlimited buybacks. 03:09:20.660 --> 03:09:25.700 You could buy back as many time as you'd like, so we had to nerf that, and now it's on cooldown. 03:09:25.700 --> 03:09:30.120 How do we feel about limiting the number of buybacks that you could have per game? 03:09:31.620 --> 03:09:32.580 I think it's okay. 03:09:32.820 --> 03:09:33.320 Personally. 03:09:33.320 --> 03:09:38.280 I mean, I think people bring up different opinions on games like that that go ultra-ultra-long. 03:09:38.280 --> 03:09:40.820 I think every once in a while it's exciting, but... 03:09:41.540 --> 03:09:43.280 there's a line where it becomes too much. 03:09:43.280 --> 03:09:47.120 I think it just patched last for a long time and it kept happening over months and months. 03:09:47.120 --> 03:09:49.360 People are sick of games this long. 03:09:49.620 --> 03:09:52.280 And so if you want to reduce game length, that is one way to do it right. 03:09:52.280 --> 03:09:54.460 It sets a hard cap on the game limit in a way. 03:09:54.460 --> 03:09:56.460 Kill the guy who's gone forever every time. 03:09:56.460 --> 03:09:57.960 I have a compromise, perhaps. 03:09:57.960 --> 03:09:59.460 Tell me if you guys think I sound crazy here. 03:09:59.460 --> 03:10:04.460 What if it's like E on disc, where every time you buy back in the game, your buyback cooldown is extended by like... 03:10:04.460 --> 03:10:06.460 Yeah, that'd be okay with that as well. 03:10:06.460 --> 03:10:12.960 I think that could also have the inverse effect, where people play even more scared, because they're waiting for their buyback for longer. 03:10:12.960 --> 03:10:15.460 Okay, so you're saying it's a terrible idea? 03:10:15.460 --> 03:10:17.460 Not necessarily, but I could see it work the other way. 03:10:17.460 --> 03:10:20.460 Oh my god, look at this. 03:10:20.460 --> 03:10:21.460 Let's go. 03:10:21.460 --> 03:10:22.460 Playtime, they're ready. 03:10:22.460 --> 03:10:30.460 Dark Mago Viper, and then Scofield, one of the best performances that we have seen on position 4 undying. 03:10:30.460 --> 03:10:34.460 He was all over the place, even though the first couple of minutes didn't really look that great. 03:10:34.460 --> 03:10:36.460 He managed to make an insanely good comeback. 03:10:36.460 --> 03:10:41.460 Soul Rift, I think he was playing against Kez, where he two shot the hero with two Soul Rifts. 03:10:41.460 --> 03:10:44.460 We have to keep an eye out for that level 1 chimpstone coming out of the room. 03:10:44.460 --> 03:10:46.460 Very important. 03:10:46.460 --> 03:10:53.320 I'll just say that you know in spirit they got their Necro banned out and they said okay fine you banned Necro 03:10:53.320 --> 03:10:56.540 We're gonna pick all the other green heroes that exist in the game 03:10:56.860 --> 03:11:00.720 So what's the you know what's one left over like Venom answer Venom answer would work 03:11:00.720 --> 03:11:02.680 Is there any other supports that are green? 03:11:02.680 --> 03:11:07.820 I think they do lack a little disabled most heroes don't have stunts rubik rubik has a disabled he's green 03:11:07.820 --> 03:11:16.420 I guess it's the support snapfire, and Maureen will be the puck. 03:11:16.420 --> 03:11:20.500 It's a lot of damage, it's a lot of magic damage, it's a lot of one-two combos that 03:11:20.500 --> 03:11:23.020 can kill pretty much any hero on the map. 03:11:23.020 --> 03:11:28.740 A big fan always was with snapfire plus puck, you just land a coil, it's set up for the 03:11:28.740 --> 03:11:32.260 kisses, tiny with the snapfire it can do and go kills. 03:11:32.260 --> 03:11:34.900 Even like two supports as well can't pair up and go for a kill. 03:11:34.900 --> 03:11:37.480 No, there's an obvious reason why they picked us not Fire Lacan. 03:11:37.480 --> 03:11:37.980 Yep. 03:11:37.980 --> 03:11:40.980 It counters the level one Tombstone harder than any other hero in the game. 03:11:40.980 --> 03:11:42.200 That means you will get the little shredder. 03:11:42.200 --> 03:11:44.440 You just take the little shredder and you focus that shit down. 03:11:45.160 --> 03:11:46.160 Skullfit's done. 03:11:46.940 --> 03:11:49.740 I uh, this draft is interesting to me because 03:11:49.740 --> 03:11:54.320 it's one of these ones where, like, play time, all the heroes are very geared towards 03:11:54.320 --> 03:11:56.820 counter picking this tiny, like they pick Pfeiffer and die. 03:11:56.820 --> 03:12:00.440 But now their heroes have a lot of weaknesses because they've countered Tiny so much 03:12:00.440 --> 03:12:03.940 that a lot of the heroes have a lower lap, so that was a really, really free puck game to get. 03:12:03.940 --> 03:12:08.460 So it's to sort of almost over commit. I think on countering this tiny if you look at playtime zero 03:12:08.460 --> 03:12:12.800 They have no catch at all. Are the stuns they have frog stuff 03:12:13.180 --> 03:12:15.740 Yeah, I guess puff that's gonna do a lot the frog stuff 03:12:15.820 --> 03:12:21.780 So I think while they may have countered this tiny you can over commit and countering one here when it weakens your draft because I think 03:12:22.100 --> 03:12:25.060 Falcons is pretty favored right now. I 03:12:26.140 --> 03:12:29.420 Mean it does look like playtime is kind of just resorting to comfort 03:12:30.500 --> 03:12:32.780 combining with counter picks like counter picks plus comfort and 03:12:32.780 --> 03:12:37.380 And as the tournament's gone on, I've seen every turn of it goes on. 03:12:37.380 --> 03:12:41.020 I think Comfort and Comfort matters less and less every series. 03:12:41.020 --> 03:12:44.940 And it's always the team that feels like, yeah, it's staying true to their identity. 03:12:44.940 --> 03:12:48.820 It's like these are Falcon Zeroes, but at the same time, they do make more sense 03:12:48.820 --> 03:12:50.980 as a cohesive unit, kind of like what you're saying. 03:12:50.980 --> 03:12:53.980 I don't feel, I feel like they have their bases kind of covered much more evenly 03:12:54.480 --> 03:12:55.460 on the side of Falcons. 03:12:56.340 --> 03:12:57.420 They have plenty of damage. 03:12:57.420 --> 03:12:58.540 They have catch on the map. 03:12:58.540 --> 03:12:59.580 They have mobility. 03:13:00.140 --> 03:13:02.660 They have objective taking with the tiny. 03:13:02.660 --> 03:13:07.140 They do lack a little bit of oomph when it comes to like Roshan and stuff. 03:13:07.140 --> 03:13:11.620 I would have liked Dawnbreaker actually just for the like another physical damage core. 03:13:11.620 --> 03:13:15.300 Wait, what is the concaband? Who do they think is the other support on playtime? 03:13:16.260 --> 03:13:20.740 They think it's Largo potentially and then you should play either Largo Viper or 03:13:21.780 --> 03:13:25.300 I think you would play Largo Viper because it gives you stun in the lane, 03:13:25.300 --> 03:13:26.820 something that Viper likes to play with. 03:13:27.620 --> 03:13:30.820 Would it be Viargo or Largyper? 03:13:30.820 --> 03:13:37.380 I don't like either one of those names sounds complicated what they are fully convinced 03:13:37.380 --> 03:13:41.900 This is a support logo. I think it's way better for play times draft if it is to be honest 03:13:41.900 --> 03:13:45.300 I think either one of those picks would have helped their draft a lot, but these are really smart fans 03:13:46.580 --> 03:13:49.820 Meanwhile, they need Sunbro. They cannot play without a Sunbro 03:13:49.820 --> 03:13:55.380 So whether it's core soup they need one you need to go as deep as like a lion if it's a support 03:13:57.180 --> 03:13:59.180 What do you think about that? 03:13:59.180 --> 03:14:01.180 Is that a stun, bro? 03:14:01.180 --> 03:14:06.180 It gives them really good skirmish power, because it's Dark Baku. 03:14:06.180 --> 03:14:10.180 He's running around like a crazy person, and there's a lot of stuff to fight in skirmish with on playtime heroes. 03:14:10.180 --> 03:14:14.180 So I think it's very good for the early game, and even leading a little bit into mid game. 03:14:14.180 --> 03:14:20.180 But I think once you get into the real mid game, and maybe the late game, then Falcons, they just have more tools to kill stuff. 03:14:20.180 --> 03:14:24.180 So it's a tempo move, which can work, but I'm not totally sold. 03:14:24.180 --> 03:14:28.180 I'm curious what Amar picks into on dying SF. That's usually a pretty key move. 03:14:28.180 --> 03:14:35.140 There's still Doom available. He picks this hero into pretty much anything and the width if he wasn't playing against Doom in the previous game 03:14:35.140 --> 03:14:39.840 I think his game would have been like three times better because he doesn't get the life steal 03:14:39.840 --> 03:14:44.080 He gets initiated on every single fight. I mean he has a couple of options as well 03:14:44.080 --> 03:14:49.700 I wouldn't mind something like a panel based just like another beefy, but like mobile guy 03:14:49.700 --> 03:14:51.700 Maybe he just doesn't play it actually don't know 03:14:53.140 --> 03:14:55.140 You've got balls in your fist 03:14:55.140 --> 03:14:59.140 Don't need that. That thing's too much. 03:14:59.140 --> 03:15:07.140 Okay, so they do go a beefy guy with catch. I was 03:15:07.140 --> 03:15:11.140 I was wondering if they would go one of these like passive. I was thinking like maybe like even like a bristleback 03:15:11.140 --> 03:15:15.140 But it lacked the catch, but they do go for tide despite it being into Viper 03:15:15.140 --> 03:15:21.140 What do you guys think about these lane matchups? I feel like they might struggle a bit on Falcons on the sidelines 03:15:21.140 --> 03:15:26.140 Like Viper against Tiny, SF on Dying against Tidehunter? 03:15:29.140 --> 03:15:35.140 I think you can do fine on both lanes probably. I think the hardest one is the... 03:15:35.140 --> 03:15:39.140 No, I think honestly both are fine, because you have Snapfire against Durge, which is quite good. 03:15:39.140 --> 03:15:44.140 And Tidehunter is also like sleeper good against on Dying, because you can gush him and just kill him if he over-over commits. 03:15:45.140 --> 03:15:47.140 Then Snapfire helps with that. 03:15:47.140 --> 03:15:52.400 Yeah, and Tiny Lich is also just Giga Lane, so I think even though it's Viper, I feel like you should be okay. 03:15:52.400 --> 03:15:53.060 Probably. 03:15:53.840 --> 03:16:00.260 I also think that if, because you have SF undyne, naturally you're gonna push out that lane, 03:16:00.260 --> 03:16:05.760 you're also gonna be relatively vulnerable to Lich rotations through the Twin Gates, the backstab. 03:16:05.760 --> 03:16:07.600 Like, you can just bring that plus one. 03:16:07.600 --> 03:16:12.440 I also wanna see if maybe they're gonna be starting potentially with the tri-lane, just to try to ruin Frank. 03:16:12.440 --> 03:16:14.240 You are playing against Viper after all. 03:16:14.240 --> 03:16:20.280 Yeah, I don't know, I feel like if there's a different team, like Playtime is draft, 03:16:20.280 --> 03:16:23.920 I would just say they're automatically out, but I know they can create some really weird 03:16:23.920 --> 03:16:27.440 scenarios with these counter picks, so I think that this is what they've shown us all 03:16:27.440 --> 03:16:31.560 of it, but I do think Falcon kind of had, like, yeah, that game one wasn't really an 03:16:31.560 --> 03:16:35.720 indicator much for me, but I think Falcon's had their number coming into this, and I 03:16:35.720 --> 03:16:39.080 don't know, it just feels, it feels more Falcon's favorite with this game. 03:16:39.080 --> 03:16:42.880 I do agree that I think Playtime needs to go hog wild to win this game, like they need 03:16:42.880 --> 03:16:47.040 to pedal to the metal, game starts, we're going. Two more to level one, kill, kill, kill, kill. 03:16:47.040 --> 03:16:49.920 So like if I'm about playtime fam, which I kind of am, they're kind of hyped, 03:16:49.920 --> 03:16:53.600 that's what I'm looking for. And I do think they need to get hit the ground running or 03:16:53.600 --> 03:16:56.800 they're going to have some problems. Which is how Schofield set the pace with his undying. 03:16:56.800 --> 03:17:00.960 But his undying, it just go full madman mode, and this is what I want to see as well. 03:17:01.680 --> 03:17:07.360 Well then let's see if the Psychopaths will be able to win, or if Falcons are going to clean 03:17:07.360 --> 03:17:12.080 them out 2-0, let's get into game number two of playtime versus Falcons with Gareth, going to see 03:17:12.080 --> 03:17:13.080 We check. 03:17:42.080 --> 03:17:55.400 I'm running away, hot-jack fan, as ladies and gentlemen, two heroes. 03:17:55.400 --> 03:18:00.320 We've got the logo, help me show you hopefully he's going to be able to replicate that thing 03:18:00.320 --> 03:18:04.840 going as far as we've got to keep the aggression up here, this track, I want to talk to heroes, 03:18:04.840 --> 03:18:09.840 ladies and gentlemen, super important to try and keep Parkins down in this series, man. 03:18:09.840 --> 03:18:12.280 41 game up after that 19 minute victory. 03:18:13.280 --> 03:18:14.280 We have speed. 03:18:14.280 --> 03:18:16.640 Playtime wins some of those game three 03:18:16.640 --> 03:18:18.720 when the series is gone the distance. 03:18:18.720 --> 03:18:20.280 So they are not a team that's gonna hold 03:18:20.280 --> 03:18:22.240 under the pressure here. 03:18:22.240 --> 03:18:24.800 But they have put themselves in a little bit of a corner. 03:18:24.800 --> 03:18:26.880 Very one dimensional lineup. 03:18:26.880 --> 03:18:28.200 They have to win lanes. 03:18:28.200 --> 03:18:30.680 They have to snowball with that advantage. 03:18:30.680 --> 03:18:33.760 They have to put the pressure onto Falcons. 03:18:35.120 --> 03:18:36.520 Put them in the hole early 03:18:36.520 --> 03:18:38.360 and not let them get into that late game. 03:18:38.360 --> 03:18:42.820 No, this will not go on. If this game goes a hundred minutes, it's gonna be very one-sided. 03:18:43.700 --> 03:18:44.960 Fucking side, right? 03:18:44.960 --> 03:18:46.000 Most likely. 03:18:46.600 --> 03:18:52.460 There's, like, Viper can always be a weird hero when he gets ultralate, if he gets truly six-slotted. 03:18:52.960 --> 03:18:57.100 The game get a little weird, but they do have the silver edge break from the tiny, even kind of assassinium. 03:18:57.100 --> 03:19:03.060 Lakey and Tidehunters are just stupid with all the gush mechanics, and of course you have Puck in the game with very limited hard lockdown. 03:19:03.060 --> 03:19:05.960 So, I'd definitely favor Falcons if this goes ultralate. 03:19:05.960 --> 03:19:12.960 But I think there's, again, a larger window than it appears on paper, like I don't think you have to completely bull rush this game, but you have to win lanes. 03:19:12.960 --> 03:19:15.960 I think if you don't win lanes here with this lineup, you're in big trouble. 03:19:15.960 --> 03:19:20.960 And that has all three lanes, or like break even in one, win two, what's the threshold? 03:19:20.960 --> 03:19:23.960 Undying SF needs to win 100%. 03:19:23.960 --> 03:19:24.960 Like annihilates it. 03:19:24.960 --> 03:19:30.960 No, not as in you have to annihilate, but like, that lane has to win. If that lane does not win, you're in huge trouble. 03:19:30.960 --> 03:19:34.960 The degree to win can vary a little bit, but it has to be like at least a 70%. 03:19:34.960 --> 03:19:41.760 I think Dark Mago actually win mid because he's just like so good on this ember that if you don't hard counter pick him a lot of times 03:19:41.760 --> 03:19:45.040 He can do pretty well and to me the Viper Largo 03:19:45.720 --> 03:19:51.240 Also needs to win by at least like a 50 60% margin though. They're gonna try landing at the start 03:19:51.240 --> 03:19:54.520 So this is like classic old-school NA anti Viper tech 03:19:55.520 --> 03:19:58.280 Old DG used to do this shit all the goddamn times 03:19:58.280 --> 03:20:03.820 You just don't let this cheese hero play the early waves and then even if you leave he kind of missed his window to snowball the lane 03:20:03.820 --> 03:20:07.820 You see a Viper or a Vistage, and you're like, okay, we're trying this bastard, I'm gonna kill him. 03:20:07.820 --> 03:20:15.820 It's very smart. The downside is Undying is extremely good in these scenarios. Probably the best support to have, because he can make a choice. 03:20:15.820 --> 03:20:22.820 He can go up there and try landing you back, and try landing against Undying is almost impossible, or the full zone's gonna be off-layers. 03:20:22.820 --> 03:20:28.820 There is no going up to the wave here for Omar, so he'll be stuck at, you know, the two CS he got. 03:20:28.820 --> 03:20:33.880 And he could there's potential he gets 100% zoned off of the equilibrium and denied XP 03:20:33.880 --> 03:20:35.380 Maybe even chance he dies 03:20:35.380 --> 03:20:39.620 Yeah, another decay and blood grenade. Yes, they're not quite able to think is not quite enough 03:20:39.620 --> 03:20:42.720 But it's like almost better not to kill him if you have the full zone potential 03:20:43.380 --> 03:20:44.980 so this is 03:20:44.980 --> 03:20:48.060 Really rough for him and likely the bite bar gets a lot more 03:20:48.060 --> 03:20:51.260 It's a lot harder to control the three on two than it is to control the two on one 03:20:51.260 --> 03:20:56.800 Which is why people kind of stopped tri-lane people ask like why did tri-lane die as a strategy because teams got really good 03:20:56.800 --> 03:21:04.300 but getting something out of the 2 on 3, and the 2 on 1 is just a literal 100 to 0. 03:21:04.300 --> 03:21:08.440 So there's a salve coming out for ATF, he's going to try and do something, maybe he just 03:21:08.440 --> 03:21:11.820 goes in jungles, I don't know, this is a big trade off for Falcons. 03:21:11.820 --> 03:21:14.460 And it's not even just the like, start to try lane where it's like, oh we're coming 03:21:14.460 --> 03:21:18.620 here for 30 seconds, then back again, crit went to get water rune, and returns to lane, 03:21:18.620 --> 03:21:22.260 with a little shred of bloke grenade, Frank drops low, but it's still not enough to kill 03:21:22.260 --> 03:21:23.260 him. 03:21:23.260 --> 03:21:24.260 And now Skinner's getting turned on. 03:21:24.260 --> 03:21:26.620 There's Joe Field with a tombstone, he's arrived. 03:21:26.620 --> 03:21:29.540 Snaking hits at once, but first blood is there for Frank! 03:21:29.540 --> 03:21:33.380 You tri-land us, we bring on dying in to save. No, shut down completely. 03:21:33.380 --> 03:21:37.420 This is the danger of going for this kind of strat against fun-dying specifically. 03:21:37.420 --> 03:21:42.420 There's not a lot of heroes that make both side lanes awkward for you in the tri-lane scenario. 03:21:42.420 --> 03:21:46.420 This is the hero, and they're going to get two for one, including first blood. 03:21:47.700 --> 03:21:51.780 Kind of a nightmare scenario now for Falcons, because you sapped your tide for this! 03:21:51.780 --> 03:21:53.380 And Frank got two kills! 03:21:53.380 --> 03:21:59.120 Yes, it all over the number the dream scenario because now you can get early boots and it makes that kind of kill attempt even harder 03:21:59.120 --> 03:22:01.840 And guess what you left the tide in an SF1 be one 03:22:03.260 --> 03:22:05.260 We know stuff a play time 03:22:05.460 --> 03:22:07.460 This is the definition of 03:22:08.460 --> 03:22:11.860 Did you need to do this? You know, that's not that's what you're asking right now 03:22:12.980 --> 03:22:17.500 You tried to go for a secret play and you shot yourself in the foot 03:22:17.500 --> 03:22:26.500 The overall expected value could have been something great, just not worth it. 03:22:26.500 --> 03:22:31.500 We look at the results, and now we've got the full back lane trying to control the small camp. 03:22:31.500 --> 03:22:35.500 He's just getting dived and chased, making his flow by the boys' attacks. 03:22:35.500 --> 03:22:39.500 Now Misha on Scofield, right on his tail with another blood grenade thrown in. 03:22:39.500 --> 03:22:41.500 Look at Frank, he's killing Spray. 03:22:41.500 --> 03:22:42.500 This is getting out of control. 03:22:42.500 --> 03:22:43.500 Skitter's 1v3. 03:22:43.500 --> 03:22:44.500 You've got two and still dropping one, so... 03:22:44.500 --> 03:22:46.500 Skitter, go gate, go play bottom. 03:22:46.500 --> 03:22:50.160 can't sit here he's gonna now you have two heroes getting full zone instead of 03:22:50.160 --> 03:22:56.120 just one Falcons are really screwed the pooch on this one in terms of 03:22:56.120 --> 03:22:58.920 execution you had a small window to abuse his fight for they did not get 03:22:58.920 --> 03:23:02.320 enough and then maybe just forgot about the unwind strength and these lane 03:23:02.320 --> 03:23:06.160 switches I also think blood grenade changes these trialings a lot because it 03:23:06.160 --> 03:23:09.800 gives way more kill thread in the two on one so you get punished harder like you 03:23:09.800 --> 03:23:12.960 can't go up you can't play this old ice ice ice tower you run around the trees 03:23:12.960 --> 03:23:15.720 because it's someone you get nuked and blood grenade and just all in yeah it's a 03:23:15.720 --> 03:23:20.480 TP out. It also gives you more kill threat on these tri-lane so that item changed these 03:23:20.480 --> 03:23:23.560 scenarios a lot too in terms of where the execution is. Now they're just kind of going 03:23:23.560 --> 03:23:25.760 for some desperation in playing. 03:23:25.760 --> 03:23:29.240 Yeah but Crit is dual lane against mid lane. They're all in dead and he's going to wading 03:23:29.240 --> 03:23:31.040 rest and then all down to low ground. 03:23:31.040 --> 03:23:32.040 Oh he's fine. 03:23:32.040 --> 03:23:36.520 He's okay. But yeah they didn't stop Darkmarga getting that top rune. Crit came to contest 03:23:36.520 --> 03:23:40.200 it. They do get a D ward on this mid lane but no kill because he's just slight dodges 03:23:40.200 --> 03:23:41.200 the cookie. 03:23:41.200 --> 03:23:44.440 I mean Amar is just a great jungle tie hunter on a small camp. 03:23:44.440 --> 03:23:52.120 I'm spanking once again, saying I rat back and Frank, gonna get that kill as he ticks 03:23:52.120 --> 03:23:53.120 over to poison. 03:23:53.120 --> 03:23:55.120 Crick out the tombstone I guess. 03:23:55.120 --> 03:23:56.120 Something. 03:23:56.120 --> 03:23:59.960 This is a pretty big disaster of a game though. 03:23:59.960 --> 03:24:04.760 Malirene is now getting full zone to have lane, playtime really brought the speed. 03:24:04.760 --> 03:24:09.280 This is exactly what you want with this lineup, trying to cheese them on the lanes. 03:24:09.280 --> 03:24:11.480 Set Falcons, you're too greedy for your own good. 03:24:11.480 --> 03:24:14.780 We're gonna pick some of the most toxic heroes in the game and just run you over 03:24:14.780 --> 03:24:18.080 kind of an old-school idea. Not a lot of teams go for these days because there's 03:24:18.080 --> 03:24:22.480 just deals all in but play time. They have the confidence to execute this stuff. 03:24:22.480 --> 03:24:25.480 Amar did get the chip fest though. 03:24:25.480 --> 03:24:27.480 That was big. It is actually big. 03:24:27.480 --> 03:24:29.480 It's actually pretty important. Sort of can jungle. 03:24:29.480 --> 03:24:32.480 That's a very lucky neutral role. 03:24:32.480 --> 03:24:35.480 They're getting run at though. 03:24:35.480 --> 03:24:38.480 Not an easy time. Don't be sure to say, okay, yeah, you're probably top, dual end mid. 03:24:38.480 --> 03:24:41.720 mid I'm gonna do the same thing avalanche and obliterate top though they're 03:24:41.720 --> 03:24:46.720 onto Frank's Viper top to kill me in raindrop one and now the two oh it's 03:24:46.720 --> 03:24:50.840 full rip already yet solid there to heal him back up literally come across the 03:24:50.840 --> 03:24:54.160 try and slow him down but they don't get a kill on Frank he's just back at the 03:24:54.160 --> 03:24:57.480 poison attacks just a gauge dragging back in towards the ledge but now 03:24:57.480 --> 03:25:02.600 snaking is overexposed and kill now it's killed all three of them Viper is so 03:25:02.600 --> 03:25:06.200 strong and some of these early new heroes that just don't have the levels 03:25:06.200 --> 03:25:09.640 Level 2 snap with Shredder Cookie. What are you doing, right? 03:25:11.000 --> 03:25:15.040 Now they're kind of looking for ATF in the jungle. They know he's in here somewhere. He is full HP though. 03:25:16.680 --> 03:25:18.220 He steals Wolf. 03:25:18.220 --> 03:25:20.220 30 seconds until Wisdom is drawing. 03:25:20.380 --> 03:25:22.380 There's like play time go for both. 03:25:22.760 --> 03:25:29.400 The biggest result of all this is an absolute empty lane for Wis. He is playing PvE down here, World of Warcraft style. 03:25:30.040 --> 03:25:31.040 Bombing Bulls. 03:25:31.040 --> 03:25:34.320 Yeah, he can drag to big camp. He can do whatever the hell he wants. They actually blocked it. 03:25:34.320 --> 03:25:45.320 I don't know about that, but whatever, you can push it in, start taking powers, accelerate this game massively, kind of a scary hero to give absolute free farm to, of course any hero is scary. 03:25:45.320 --> 03:25:54.320 Thank you, he's trying to de-ward. Wants to alleviate some of the pressure and maybe guard the wisdom shrine, but now he's dead. That's easy shrine on the right hand side for playtime. 03:25:54.320 --> 03:25:56.320 While Crypt looks for the one on the left. 03:25:56.320 --> 03:26:02.320 He hesitated a little. He might have just got it if he went. Oh, he is going to get it. Okay, that's a huge win for him because he's level 2. 03:26:02.320 --> 03:26:09.320 I guess Frank just didn't think he was back there, or maybe thought there was more heroes. 03:26:09.320 --> 03:26:12.320 God, I'm not sure. I thought I'd get the double. 03:26:12.320 --> 03:26:15.320 Yeah, I should have been double trying with the start you had. 03:26:15.320 --> 03:26:18.320 7-0 with a 2k lead. 03:26:18.320 --> 03:26:20.320 Talking this. 03:26:20.320 --> 03:26:21.320 Thanks. 03:26:21.320 --> 03:26:24.320 Dumped down on my playtime, this early phase of the game. 03:26:24.320 --> 03:26:27.320 I'm looking at this level 6 ember spirit with urn ready. 03:26:27.320 --> 03:26:29.320 Charges forward. 03:26:29.320 --> 03:26:34.080 There's a bit of backup coming behind him with the undying, but this coil ends the damage 03:26:34.080 --> 03:26:35.080 of the snapfire. 03:26:35.080 --> 03:26:38.480 Cookie and Statsoplast kills him before the chooms don't even get placed. 03:26:38.480 --> 03:26:43.200 Now they can focus the choom down with the deny, though, from Scofield, but everybody 03:26:43.200 --> 03:26:44.200 lost the Ember Spirit. 03:26:44.200 --> 03:26:45.200 That's a huge kill. 03:26:45.200 --> 03:26:47.840 Such a low-level snapfire you take down enemy mid. 03:26:47.840 --> 03:26:50.400 There was a Lotus on Scofield, but he couldn't get it off. 03:26:50.400 --> 03:26:51.400 Got stunned. 03:26:51.400 --> 03:26:52.400 Running up. 03:26:52.400 --> 03:26:54.800 Nice execution from Falcons. 03:26:54.800 --> 03:26:57.280 Gotta salvage something in this game around the park. 03:26:57.280 --> 03:27:01.840 He's the one hero that exists the tiny and tide are not gonna exist for a long time here 03:27:03.480 --> 03:27:05.480 Chipped best Dota this is like 03:27:06.760 --> 03:27:13.280 Just pure jungle actually I can't block to rip arena all this camps are blocked wishing you had an iron talent 03:27:15.040 --> 03:27:18.920 Shadowfiend just gonna come across play. Thank you. That's my wave get some more denies 03:27:21.520 --> 03:27:24.560 What's the app now 30 29 denies 03:27:24.560 --> 03:27:30.560 Yeah, that's a considerable deficit, some would say. 03:27:30.560 --> 03:27:33.560 And you can push for a World Rancor as well. 03:27:33.560 --> 03:27:34.560 Oh, that's true. 03:27:34.560 --> 03:27:37.560 Now back to the Troy Lane. 03:27:37.560 --> 03:27:39.560 The playtime bring the two supports itself to play through Frank. 03:27:39.560 --> 03:27:42.560 And booted Falcons out of this lane. 03:27:42.560 --> 03:27:44.560 It's not defending this tower. 03:27:44.560 --> 03:27:49.560 Even TwinGating Chavarffin is up here, so all five are playtime ready for a fight over this first big objective. 03:27:49.560 --> 03:27:52.560 You need to make sure these moves are efficient though. 03:27:52.560 --> 03:27:59.560 Like, there is a skill to plane from his dominating of a lane position, and it's about continuing to grow the lead, 03:27:59.560 --> 03:28:03.560 abusing the weak heroes on the map, and not giving them time to recover. When you make a move like this, 03:28:03.560 --> 03:28:11.560 ATF is getting lane creeps bottom now. This is what he wants. So he's level 6. He honestly has decent experience in this game. 03:28:11.560 --> 03:28:17.560 So if you're going to take the SF off this lane, then you need to make sure it's worth something. 03:28:17.560 --> 03:28:28.560 Don't want too much dead time. You want to speed the game up as much as possible, rotate the undying to mid, drag Falcons into Morseker machine, play around this Ember who can constantly run at supports and start fights for you. 03:28:28.560 --> 03:28:35.560 That's not the part that's very good at. No redundancy. They bring the right amount of heroes to the right place. 03:28:35.560 --> 03:28:40.560 I'm not gonna damage to kill Dark Margo, but definitely unsettling him in that mid lane. 03:28:40.560 --> 03:28:44.560 So you can't just play boldly through that tier one. 03:28:44.560 --> 03:28:47.560 Just getting made with a frog. 03:28:47.560 --> 03:28:52.560 Definitely the place you want to attack right now. Powering up as well. 03:28:52.560 --> 03:28:54.560 Pretty good one. Shielding. 03:28:54.560 --> 03:28:57.960 Really nice here, makes an invisible hit into the coil thread. 03:28:57.960 --> 03:28:59.460 Easy thinking on the lich. 03:28:59.460 --> 03:29:00.460 And this is what you want. 03:29:00.460 --> 03:29:04.800 Just start running down these supports across the map, because you know there is no response 03:29:04.800 --> 03:29:08.960 you need to be afraid of in this game. 03:29:08.960 --> 03:29:12.480 Pretty mad scramble trying to get these falcon supports to level 6. 03:29:12.480 --> 03:29:17.200 So important to get this chain frost and what in this case is ready, because that's 03:29:17.200 --> 03:29:18.920 what the plug needs to play the game. 03:29:18.920 --> 03:29:23.960 Use big damage, bounce from your two supports to actually do something. 03:29:23.960 --> 03:29:28.360 Like you said, tiny and tight under the dead weight, you know, as far as the next 5 minutes. 03:29:29.060 --> 03:29:31.060 Maybe throw a ravaging, maybe react. 03:29:32.260 --> 03:29:33.760 Most probably want to sit and farm. 03:29:34.460 --> 03:29:35.460 There's that coil. 03:29:36.660 --> 03:29:38.260 Damage, free take. 03:29:38.460 --> 03:29:39.460 Which is not coming. 03:29:39.460 --> 03:29:42.460 Again, these two supports with no ultimates don't offer anything. 03:29:42.760 --> 03:29:45.960 And they'll just get run out by the start marker of Ember Spirit. 03:29:46.260 --> 03:29:52.160 Lich gets her end up, slides down, and snakings 7th death of the game, Death and Steen. 03:29:52.160 --> 03:29:56.480 It's not to be said about a bit of redundancy though, right? You're killing the same hero open over again 03:29:56.480 --> 03:30:00.320 But it is powering up the air like ever it doesn't mind just killing supports over and over 03:30:00.320 --> 03:30:05.120 And the thing is there's nowhere else for these supports to go normally say I don't want to get sucked into this mid-scurve machine 03:30:05.120 --> 03:30:10.880 It's the seven stages those two links lost horribly lost their tier one super early. There is no action here 03:30:10.880 --> 03:30:13.280 So what is happening much supposed to do right now? 03:30:15.360 --> 03:30:20.600 Nightmare fuel for Falcons build a time machine go back to when the time of wisdom existed and 03:30:21.560 --> 03:30:27.200 Try and buy one and bring it to the future kick them are out of bottom. No creeps for you 03:30:33.200 --> 03:30:35.200 Double bounty room. Oh, hello 03:30:35.840 --> 03:30:37.840 Nice, that's a big one 03:30:40.320 --> 03:30:42.680 Gonna get chased by this frog and Viper though 03:30:43.720 --> 03:30:45.720 wander through the river 03:30:45.720 --> 03:30:48.600 What's he got? He's holding points around his tide. 03:30:48.600 --> 03:30:51.280 So he could ravage TP if he really wanted to. 03:30:51.280 --> 03:30:53.480 So double bounce you there and kill Jungle camps. 03:30:53.480 --> 03:30:54.600 Might be Courier. 03:30:54.600 --> 03:30:56.520 Even if he dies here, it's like, okay, 03:30:56.520 --> 03:30:57.960 well you're on your side of the map 03:30:57.960 --> 03:30:59.960 and you're not pressuring my top Jungle or my Tiny. 03:30:59.960 --> 03:31:01.960 That's the better place to die, for sure. 03:31:01.960 --> 03:31:04.200 At least you get some experience on crit. 03:31:04.200 --> 03:31:05.960 Work towards these support ulties. 03:31:08.760 --> 03:31:11.720 You will lose this tier one mid, but that is inevitable. 03:31:11.720 --> 03:31:16.200 So full map control play time. 03:31:16.200 --> 03:31:22.040 They don't have the best catch, so maybe one downside here, it's all on Dark Lago to kinda 03:31:22.040 --> 03:31:29.160 run the map, but he does have a great hero to provide the catch. 03:31:29.160 --> 03:31:41.080 would be death number eight on the zero seven in zero which would be or will be 03:31:41.080 --> 03:31:46.280 I was giving the wrong round Frank is giving up chasing him so he's gonna get 03:31:46.280 --> 03:31:53.000 a TP out space created until chance around that jungle keep looking at the 03:31:53.000 --> 03:31:58.000 Shadowfiend though, it's 7000 net worth, pretty close to us, yes you're clear. 03:31:58.000 --> 03:32:03.000 There's nothing more humbling than a game of Dota 2 where you get undyed on the lanes, you know? 03:32:03.000 --> 03:32:09.000 Two time ages when you're in budget. Sometimes you just get booty slapped early. 03:32:09.000 --> 03:32:11.000 Just get decayed over and over again. 03:32:11.000 --> 03:32:15.000 There's not much to outskill decay, Tombstone. It's just broken in the lanes. 03:32:15.000 --> 03:32:18.000 If you get value out of it, you get value. 03:32:18.000 --> 03:32:20.000 This will be a tough game for Falcons to recover. 03:32:20.000 --> 03:32:24.000 We saw what they did last game though, that game also worked really difficult to win. 03:32:24.000 --> 03:32:28.000 This team is incredibly skilled at wiggling out of tough scenarios. 03:32:28.000 --> 03:32:32.000 It has been an extended period though of three minutes now where 03:32:32.000 --> 03:32:37.000 Networth lead is plateaued, experienced leaders start shifting back towards Falcons as they spread this map pretty wide. 03:32:37.000 --> 03:32:39.000 Yeah, they need to restart the fight here. 03:32:39.000 --> 03:32:44.000 Gotta go again with a smoke counter flipper and a dying that indicates they want to do exactly that. 03:32:44.000 --> 03:32:53.560 And starting on this Ember Spirit mid though, with the kisses and coil, Dark Marga getting focused by Malrin and Crit, but now they're dying, Viper arrived, tiny, gets annihilated. 03:32:54.060 --> 03:33:03.800 Crit gets finished off the Ember Spirit and is one for one trade, so not disastrous for Falcons, getting something out of this rough position and slowing the pace at which he plays on the plate. 03:33:04.100 --> 03:33:12.100 Especially since Ember didn't even have to die there, he could have just run it out, wanted to get one more slide off and then came back into one last kiss and he just got blown up. 03:33:14.000 --> 03:33:16.720 Tiny joining that fight, Nino, really? Sucks. 03:33:16.720 --> 03:33:18.920 She's kinda adding fuel to the fire here. 03:33:19.720 --> 03:33:21.160 Amar is looking bottom lane. 03:33:21.160 --> 03:33:22.480 With Malarine. 03:33:22.840 --> 03:33:25.560 This would be an insane kill to Snag. 03:33:25.560 --> 03:33:27.120 It's a little 12 shadowpeen. 03:33:27.120 --> 03:33:28.920 He was like spam pinning the SF. 03:33:28.920 --> 03:33:29.920 Let's go, let's go! 03:33:30.920 --> 03:33:34.160 I forced her back to tier 1, but yeah, no actual kill attempt. 03:33:34.480 --> 03:33:35.640 Well, the rest of your team... 03:33:36.520 --> 03:33:38.320 ...can harass back from the Ancient's area. 03:33:38.320 --> 03:33:39.920 It's not high enough up down here. 03:33:41.760 --> 03:33:42.400 No way. 03:33:42.400 --> 03:33:43.840 And then die, Mago with Frank. 03:33:43.840 --> 03:33:45.040 Two other coals. 03:33:45.840 --> 03:33:47.680 Frank back to kill off the Gritsnap flower. 03:33:47.680 --> 03:33:50.640 I feel like Ember is the most oppressive in these situations. 03:33:50.640 --> 03:33:53.920 I mean, there's a couple others that are probably equivalent, but Ember just doesn't so cleanly. 03:33:53.920 --> 03:33:54.420 Is that it? 03:33:54.420 --> 03:33:56.420 Yeah, Sniper, Huskar can just close them. 03:33:56.420 --> 03:33:58.420 They can play Hyper Aggressive, but Ember... 03:33:58.420 --> 03:34:02.720 He can play Hyper Aggressive, and he can push the wanes out super fast, and he can join the other side of the map. 03:34:02.720 --> 03:34:03.920 It's just so fluid. 03:34:04.960 --> 03:34:09.560 They're still hunting this Wits SF. They might get him here. They have Coil. Yeah, he looks good. 03:34:09.560 --> 03:34:16.560 Man thought he could farm one more camp, call a snap in the gush, tons of damage dropped in and they don't even have to spend the Rammage. 03:34:16.560 --> 03:34:18.560 It's a big kill. 03:34:18.560 --> 03:34:20.560 Let's go field here. 03:34:20.560 --> 03:34:23.560 I'm looking for something, but Falcons have already got what they came for. 03:34:23.560 --> 03:34:27.560 It's worth so much gold in XK, she doesn't have a point behind her. 03:34:27.560 --> 03:34:31.560 Crid up top lane, put a cookie out of the fork stump, lick back in. 03:34:31.560 --> 03:34:36.560 It's like on the steeping, not gonna remedy the situation, but might be able to get towards Dark Margo. 03:34:37.560 --> 03:34:39.560 Don't have a coil, they spent the waning rift. 03:34:40.560 --> 03:34:42.560 Bit of a challenge to control this M2. 03:34:43.560 --> 03:34:45.560 At least you get a creep right here. It's pretty nice. 03:34:47.560 --> 03:34:50.560 Skipper gets to hit the bottom tier one, twice, and he's found that and walked away. 03:34:51.560 --> 03:34:53.560 Give him playtime though, I don't have a little bit. 03:34:54.560 --> 03:34:58.560 They are finding corners of the map, getting some camps, getting some kills. 03:34:58.560 --> 03:35:02.160 It's not all doom and gloomy, or that lead. 03:35:02.160 --> 03:35:03.560 It's still 3k. 03:35:03.560 --> 03:35:04.560 Hasn't really been built. 03:35:04.560 --> 03:35:05.560 Very good. 03:35:05.560 --> 03:35:06.560 5, 6 minutes. 03:35:06.560 --> 03:35:08.560 Man, I'm not exaggerating. 03:35:08.560 --> 03:35:10.560 And now Wisdom's trying for snaking. 03:35:10.560 --> 03:35:12.560 He's made this move several times. 03:35:12.560 --> 03:35:13.560 He's playing the outer ring of the map. 03:35:13.560 --> 03:35:15.560 Now that's one of the difficulties, right? 03:35:15.560 --> 03:35:17.560 Oh, dead in that mid lane. 03:35:17.560 --> 03:35:18.560 Just TP. 03:35:18.560 --> 03:35:20.560 Don't live like Frank. 03:35:20.560 --> 03:35:24.560 This is the kind of game where Viper gets gale and just becomes an absolute beast. 03:35:24.560 --> 03:35:28.420 Beast because you don't have to go any sort of like cheap early item, you know, I'm not gonna go pipe 03:35:31.160 --> 03:35:33.160 Be calm Oscar you're right quick 03:35:34.040 --> 03:35:36.540 Somebody doesn't have that universal talent. That was a stick talent 03:35:37.540 --> 03:35:40.540 New York have an extra 200 damage hold. What the hell not? 03:35:42.800 --> 03:35:47.320 Here's one of the downsides of playing this cool rush kind of draft though is the map is very big now 03:35:47.760 --> 03:35:52.480 So this legend part getting behind pushing waves finding his recapt 03:35:54.560 --> 03:36:00.560 Still finding a moment, and they can slide the asset or get a bit of gold in their pockets. 03:36:00.560 --> 03:36:03.560 Looking at defending this tier 2. 03:36:03.560 --> 03:36:04.560 Great break again. 03:36:04.560 --> 03:36:09.560 Tombstone and Vipers strike, and he's the ravage to try and stay alive, but the damage just keeps on coming. 03:36:09.560 --> 03:36:14.560 Undying keeps zapping them with decay, and the solo reps and his frog with the ember screw into the back lines. 03:36:14.560 --> 03:36:17.560 Amar trades out for scope build, tucks in the try and jump away. 03:36:17.560 --> 03:36:23.560 Dark Margo claims the life of Snakey though as Tiny, but he's come in to kill a support and then loses his life for it. 03:36:23.560 --> 03:36:26.440 I got like by far 18 minutes in 03:36:28.600 --> 03:36:30.600 Frank owning this game nine zero 03:36:31.320 --> 03:36:33.640 Play that early lane perfectly didn't be 03:36:34.560 --> 03:36:39.560 Waiting for the backup to come and it's just no ball since he's just such a massive threat on this tiny entire 03:36:39.560 --> 03:36:43.800 It's a great fight, right? It really is if you're not getting kinder on the map 03:36:44.320 --> 03:36:47.440 He doesn't really have a weakness here and just play you back and straight up 03:36:47.440 --> 03:36:54.320 It's a pretty big indication as well, the playtime, you know, through the coach doing 03:36:54.320 --> 03:36:55.320 their preparation. 03:36:55.320 --> 03:36:59.560 It really understood and realized with all the tape we have on passes, they do like 03:36:59.560 --> 03:37:01.560 to grant things out and take things slowly. 03:37:01.560 --> 03:37:05.560 If you just pick up the pace and play fast like this, you're broken at formation, you're 03:37:05.560 --> 03:37:07.880 hitting these kills, it is a good option for them. 03:37:07.880 --> 03:37:10.360 It really is a great conceptual idea against the team. 03:37:10.360 --> 03:37:14.640 It's just very difficult to execute and you need the right metaphor. 03:37:14.640 --> 03:37:17.040 Falcons are very simple to just get cheesed in lanes 03:37:18.040 --> 03:37:20.040 Sometimes you're the ones to break them out though, right? 03:37:20.360 --> 03:37:24.200 Everything's going 50 minutes, 90 minutes, and they come in and say, uh, well, actually 03:37:24.440 --> 03:37:30.080 Maybe we can win this in 25. I agree. That's what Gaiman did in their low rack of tiara and everyone was playing really slow 03:37:30.080 --> 03:37:32.080 They just low and drew them 03:37:32.840 --> 03:37:37.600 It can definitely catch people off guard. You're just not ready for it. You have to mentally adjust to really fast 03:37:40.560 --> 03:37:42.960 Even the Falcons tried all the tricks to try lane 03:37:42.960 --> 03:37:56.640 I think if anything in that lane phase you were supposed to just go as 3 and block bottom 03:37:56.640 --> 03:38:01.260 wave to win equilibrium for Tide, and I think that lane was playable straight up at that 03:38:01.260 --> 03:38:05.560 point if you got the lane back super early, because the difficulty is playing super far 03:38:05.560 --> 03:38:09.640 up in that lane early versus 9 to the next step, but if you get it back early, even if 03:38:09.640 --> 03:38:15.640 If you abandoned him at level 2 or 3, he would have been way better off, and then you could have trialed in the Viper and killed him with more spells later on. 03:38:15.640 --> 03:38:21.640 I think, trying to play that level 1 against the Viper, like, yeah, you full zone him, but Viper doesn't really care, like... 03:38:21.640 --> 03:38:23.640 It's like, it's like, it's like, you're happy that you're over. 03:38:23.640 --> 03:38:26.640 Yeah, they had the heroes for that scenario. 03:38:26.640 --> 03:38:34.640 Black Manga, running the map. He's everywhere. If the gap lures you from thousands of range... 03:38:34.640 --> 03:38:37.640 The buffet is open tonight, December. 03:38:37.640 --> 03:38:41.640 Well, we're in the Snake King, hunting that same jungle camp that they found the SF in. 03:38:42.640 --> 03:38:44.640 Nobody here this time though. 03:38:45.140 --> 03:38:49.640 They'll see the Viper mid, might come in contact with Whitz as they pass by the C1. 03:38:50.140 --> 03:38:53.140 Well, we're in it, jumping in to Blink Scout. Say hello. 03:38:53.640 --> 03:38:54.640 Spoken. 03:38:55.140 --> 03:38:57.140 Look, but Skowfield's got queued up. 03:38:58.640 --> 03:39:02.140 The gem. The bable Skowfield gem already on the menu. 03:39:02.640 --> 03:39:04.640 20 minute gem, every game. 03:39:04.640 --> 03:39:08.880 I mean, this is way too early in this dialogue. 03:39:08.880 --> 03:39:14.580 I think he's forcing this idea a little too much, but hey, they're winning and it's working 03:39:14.580 --> 03:39:16.480 for him, so it's not arguing with him. 03:39:16.480 --> 03:39:18.440 More than an idea for him now, the rule, right? 03:39:18.440 --> 03:39:20.880 He's actually set this carved into stone. 03:39:20.880 --> 03:39:21.880 I guess so. 03:39:21.880 --> 03:39:25.320 It's got his 900 gold on it's support. 03:39:25.320 --> 03:39:26.320 Scofield's Commandments. 03:39:26.320 --> 03:39:30.320 It's making a big move. 03:39:30.320 --> 03:39:33.440 They have a shield around the puck, but not a lot of damage to work with. 03:39:33.440 --> 03:39:39.800 full chain frost. They need heroes to come together and play time. They smoke themselves 03:39:39.800 --> 03:39:45.840 so they can reposition. Dior didn't have vision of this. They could have break smoke 03:39:45.840 --> 03:39:51.320 on the Tiny. Flypick is isolated, falls back, killed by the Shadow Fiend. Tiny left. Wide 03:39:51.320 --> 03:39:58.760 open. You have fun playing Tiny into undying Viper. Two of the worst heroes to just fight 03:39:58.760 --> 03:40:03.640 you early. I'm surprised he's even trying to do anything to this game. I would just farm for 03:40:03.640 --> 03:40:07.800 Silver Edge BKB, because I don't think you can do anything until you have all of it. 03:40:09.800 --> 03:40:11.240 Does that mean it's easy to torment her? 03:40:11.240 --> 03:40:13.080 Well maybe they snipe it here, they have to link Ravage. 03:40:14.200 --> 03:40:18.600 And with the high ground, Ravage straight on the shadow fiend, 03:40:18.600 --> 03:40:22.280 trying to get this kill with the burst damage of the park, they've got just enough. 03:40:22.280 --> 03:40:24.760 Malarine dominating, takes the SF out, 03:40:24.760 --> 03:40:27.800 Come on, it's gonna be the trade, but that is well worth their time. 03:40:30.360 --> 03:40:32.520 Kill the SF off, get something out of nothing. 03:40:32.520 --> 03:40:34.280 Maureen, maybe you can go for this tonight? 03:40:34.280 --> 03:40:35.320 He's going for it, die- 03:40:35.320 --> 03:40:36.200 Oh, we got him! 03:40:36.200 --> 03:40:41.000 Sneaking shot of Maureen, pulling tricks out of the back now, little magician on the plug. 03:40:41.000 --> 03:40:45.720 Even if you die here, you're pretty happy with a rice minor base, but he's still got chances to escape. 03:40:46.440 --> 03:40:48.280 Oh, chance to it. 03:40:49.160 --> 03:40:50.920 Come on, take the tumble. 03:40:50.920 --> 03:40:52.520 That's absolutely worth it. 03:40:52.520 --> 03:40:54.920 It's a massive gold swing getting this shard. 03:40:55.720 --> 03:40:56.520 Good shard too. 03:40:56.520 --> 03:41:00.520 Like this ice buyer is probably not selling snaking, it was ever used in this type of game. 03:41:01.520 --> 03:41:03.120 At least he's got something to play with now. 03:41:04.320 --> 03:41:06.520 Oh, Valgoon's making something out of nothing. 03:41:06.520 --> 03:41:10.120 It's not turning the game, but you are slowing the bleeding down. 03:41:14.920 --> 03:41:15.720 And there's the gem. 03:41:15.720 --> 03:41:16.320 Let's go field. 03:41:17.320 --> 03:41:17.920 Run on the map. 03:41:19.720 --> 03:41:20.920 Now watch him de-ward. 03:41:22.520 --> 03:41:24.520 As long as there's a ward mid, ward top. 03:41:24.520 --> 03:41:27.520 Let's start gathering a bit of gold on his way through the map. 03:41:27.520 --> 03:41:30.520 I guess Jim does have some extra value against him this tiny here. 03:41:30.520 --> 03:41:32.520 It's a little more justified. 03:41:34.520 --> 03:41:37.520 I'm trying to protect him for now. 03:41:37.520 --> 03:41:41.520 Put the snapfire and the lich in front of this tiny... 03:41:41.520 --> 03:41:45.520 Tricker barrier, so Skitter can farm that BKB. 03:41:46.520 --> 03:41:48.520 Jim, not rushing into the Silver Edge. 03:41:48.520 --> 03:41:53.520 I'm going to go for Blink, just the classic Enka Saber, she had a blade, Blacking Bar. 03:41:54.520 --> 03:41:58.520 Doesn't indicate that instead of fighting, we're not ready. 03:42:01.520 --> 03:42:05.520 I'm going to bring a long wait though for the Titan's item. Wait for that Blink first. 03:42:06.520 --> 03:42:11.520 I'll give him Scepter Next to get that big old gush. Already has a slow talent. 03:42:12.520 --> 03:42:15.520 There will be some nice fighting timings for Falcons this game, even if they're behind the tank. 03:42:15.520 --> 03:42:18.720 The BKB Silverage Tiny is the axe on the tide. 03:42:18.720 --> 03:42:24.660 Yeah, you're gonna keep bleeding some kills here, but these games can be 03:42:24.660 --> 03:42:29.520 recoverable because playtime strapped is one-dimensional to get that one good fight. 03:42:29.520 --> 03:42:33.520 You definitely don't want to throw here. He just helps a long way. 03:42:33.520 --> 03:42:37.520 This will be A just for the SFF plus the BKB done in like a hundred gold. 03:42:37.520 --> 03:42:42.520 I'm gonna give it to Tartmago. That's also fine. 03:42:42.520 --> 03:42:47.020 He's the initiator, right? He's the one that's jumping in, scouting, starting things off. 03:42:47.020 --> 03:42:48.020 This does... 03:42:48.020 --> 03:42:51.020 So the upside of this is Darkmog will play a lot more aggressive on the map. 03:42:51.020 --> 03:42:53.020 He already has agg's done, so you have 5 remnants available. 03:42:53.020 --> 03:42:55.020 He can just dice people up. 03:42:55.020 --> 03:42:59.020 The downside is, you can't really go high ground if you're not putting ages on the SF. 03:42:59.020 --> 03:43:02.020 Which I do think in these style of games, you can go high ground very well. 03:43:06.520 --> 03:43:08.520 Don't have to, but it is an option. 03:43:08.520 --> 03:43:11.520 Maybe the game just wanted to kill off these tier 2s first. 03:43:11.520 --> 03:43:13.520 We're going five heroes in the side lanes. 03:43:13.520 --> 03:43:15.520 We're going to run them all down here. 03:43:15.520 --> 03:43:17.520 Yeah, can I keep you, maybe? 03:43:17.520 --> 03:43:18.520 Let's get us waiting in a bit. 03:43:18.520 --> 03:43:19.520 Cease go field. 03:43:19.520 --> 03:43:21.520 We're looking for the solo kills. 03:43:21.520 --> 03:43:22.520 Might tell you're dying. 03:43:22.520 --> 03:43:23.520 Chain Frost's fire. 03:43:23.520 --> 03:43:24.520 Dark Mago. 03:43:24.520 --> 03:43:25.520 Yeah. 03:43:25.520 --> 03:43:26.520 He's tanky. 03:43:26.520 --> 03:43:27.520 The gem. 03:43:27.520 --> 03:43:28.520 We got it. 03:43:28.520 --> 03:43:29.520 Let's get a dip. 03:43:29.520 --> 03:43:31.520 Dark Mago trying to reclaim it. 03:43:31.520 --> 03:43:32.520 Chasing forward. 03:43:32.520 --> 03:43:34.520 Even the slide going. 03:43:34.520 --> 03:43:35.520 It's really not going to cheat. 03:43:35.520 --> 03:43:37.520 That's why I don't like this early gem. 03:43:37.520 --> 03:43:39.520 I mean, it's just such a big net worth swing. 03:43:39.520 --> 03:43:43.800 I feel like you could have just bought like soul ringers some other item to farm a dying can farm now 03:43:44.000 --> 03:43:49.300 This isn't a hero where you just can't get more gold and maybe just gem later. Did you need it this early? 03:43:49.300 --> 03:43:55.320 I don't know these things are super hit or miss, but that's a you know, it's almost a 2k gold swing on its own 03:43:56.560 --> 03:43:59.760 For all value you lost that shard. That's another 03:44:01.880 --> 03:44:05.320 3,600 gold swing like or 3,000 gold swing get ads up 03:44:09.520 --> 03:44:17.280 with a limited time. First the issue, a big arrow drawn by the SFJ and go play top, we 03:44:17.280 --> 03:44:23.320 need to find some more kills. This Frank Viper is alone in the mid lane though, not grouping 03:44:23.320 --> 03:44:28.200 up with the rest of his team. And Diavision has seen this move out of playtime. In the 03:44:28.200 --> 03:44:32.780 mid lane, they caught him. He caught the puck. Big catch there. And then the jump behind 03:44:32.780 --> 03:44:37.780 two minutes look at the snaking greaves out a snap fly top him up 03:44:37.780 --> 03:44:43.160 not nothing they do a peeking you know tiny and they have to tie it so they're 03:44:43.160 --> 03:44:49.260 kind of hitting their their first time in here be able to take a fight just so 03:44:49.260 --> 03:44:55.060 tough to run into this ball kind of have to try to assassinate the dying first 03:44:55.060 --> 03:44:59.700 if you can't before flesh gold tombstone goes down does that it's 03:44:59.700 --> 03:45:01.700 There's a knight here to fight into that. 03:45:01.700 --> 03:45:06.700 Still ages as well, so you're probably dodging here, trying to finish up another item on the tiny. 03:45:08.700 --> 03:45:13.700 There's a guy busy the whole time. Ward mid, ward top jungle, sees everything playtime I'm doing. 03:45:13.700 --> 03:45:21.700 And the ability of Falcons just to zap creep waves, tiny can go, insta-shuffle wave, tide aggs, snap-fly with a combo. 03:45:21.700 --> 03:45:24.700 Pretty difficult to actually push lanes in towards Falcons. 03:45:24.700 --> 03:45:39.600 I think Wits should have gone Silver Edge before BKB, because I think when you're ahead 03:45:39.600 --> 03:45:42.620 in these positions, you want the item that pressures the map the most and stills the 03:45:42.620 --> 03:45:44.620 most for you, gives you the most play options. 03:45:44.620 --> 03:45:47.820 Valks are not going to contest your roach, they're not going to fight you straight up, 03:45:47.820 --> 03:45:51.700 they're not going to give you that 5 on 5, where oh I need BKB so I can stand there and 03:45:51.700 --> 03:45:52.700 fight. 03:45:52.700 --> 03:45:59.700 BKB doesn't help you catch the kills, it doesn't help you hunt these kills, it doesn't help you solo kill Tide or Tiny if you find him with extra slow and damage. 03:45:59.700 --> 03:46:02.700 Usually these are defensive items when you're behind to try and catch up. 03:46:02.700 --> 03:46:06.700 Yeah, or you know the Roche is going to get contested and it guarantees an Aegis. 03:46:06.700 --> 03:46:16.700 I think this BKB is just kind of a waste on Witt. It could have been a full S'overage by now, where he's running down this bottom lane, forcing Tide out of areas, it's extra setup and threat. 03:46:16.700 --> 03:46:19.700 Otherwise your lineup is just completely dependent on Ember. 03:46:19.700 --> 03:46:23.900 And I think these little item choices make a big difference in these games, like they went Orcid on Frank. 03:46:25.400 --> 03:46:28.800 That I at least kind of liked the aggressive stance of it. 03:46:29.500 --> 03:46:33.100 It's a little late here, but you do have a little kill threat on... 03:46:34.000 --> 03:46:35.600 ...Puck, which is pretty nice. 03:46:35.600 --> 03:46:36.900 Yeah, yeah, I think. 03:46:38.900 --> 03:46:41.800 Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Orcid, but I at least like that idea more. 03:46:41.800 --> 03:46:46.100 When you have like no other lockdown, right? It's like, okay, get the root into Orcid, that's the way to kill the Puck. 03:46:46.100 --> 03:46:48.600 And it will scale in this game later on. 03:46:48.600 --> 03:46:50.600 I'll get the blood claw later. 03:46:52.040 --> 03:46:53.720 Not much like when it's ages. 03:46:53.720 --> 03:46:55.240 40 seconds. 03:46:55.240 --> 03:46:58.520 Shadowfiend not comfortable just to go high ground and push tower. 03:46:58.520 --> 03:46:59.720 Betty blink. 03:46:59.720 --> 03:47:01.720 Fake out the requiem. 03:47:01.720 --> 03:47:03.480 Forces in that part of the cookie away. 03:47:03.480 --> 03:47:08.200 Now this VKB build also would have made sense if they wanted to give him ages and do an early high ground. 03:47:08.200 --> 03:47:08.700 Yeah. 03:47:08.700 --> 03:47:11.200 Because then you don't need Silver Edge to chase people around or whatever. 03:47:11.200 --> 03:47:14.200 But they kind of split the wicket and they're going to lose another wicket. 03:47:14.200 --> 03:47:16.200 Oh, Witt. Witt is getting comboed. 03:47:16.200 --> 03:47:22.880 This Lich and Tiny all just about kills him off from the BKB TP. He's gonna allow us to get into escape 03:47:23.160 --> 03:47:28.200 That's the worst case scenario you lose wisdom trying to lose SF and use BKB and it's didn't even save it 03:47:29.240 --> 03:47:33.600 Fuck is just finding all of the right openings. There's no doors or windows on this house 03:47:33.600 --> 03:47:35.600 But there's a little mouse hole that they're crawling through 03:47:36.040 --> 03:47:40.320 They're just so good at making out these my wins and now they're smoking up death so for edge tiny 03:47:41.000 --> 03:47:43.160 They can fight. They're not that weak anymore 03:47:46.200 --> 03:47:49.040 forward. This is Gamta Smoke, Rake's vision. 03:47:49.040 --> 03:47:53.560 They've got the gem on the puck, a great gem carrier. Unlikely to die in this game if 03:47:53.560 --> 03:48:01.000 he plays on the concerted side. I mean this should be like a 15k lead in the playtime. 03:48:01.000 --> 03:48:07.320 And we're looking at 4k. They lost Tormentor, they lost Gen, they de-hubbed. A couple SF 03:48:07.320 --> 03:48:14.360 kills here, a couple BKB duration drops. And it's not just, it should be, but it needs 03:48:14.360 --> 03:48:20.040 to be, right? Yes, that trajectory you're looking for with this lineup, that's your strategy. 03:48:20.040 --> 03:48:23.800 That's the whole idea, right? Take an early lane victory, snowball it out of control, 03:48:23.800 --> 03:48:28.840 don't let Falcons scale in this game. Well, they're scaling. 03:48:28.840 --> 03:48:35.240 Twenty kills down, but only a 5k lead. Now map space for a mar to play through top. 03:48:35.240 --> 03:48:38.160 Really showcasing why a lot of teams don't like going through this track, because with 03:48:38.160 --> 03:48:41.760 the big map, you can wiggle out of these kind of scenarios. 03:48:41.760 --> 03:48:43.760 Did you go all in on red? 03:48:43.760 --> 03:48:45.760 It kinda comes about black and you're like, oh! 03:48:45.760 --> 03:48:47.760 Oh, there it is. 03:48:47.760 --> 03:48:49.760 Wits. 03:48:49.760 --> 03:48:52.760 In this and chasing skitter from the Dias entry here. 03:48:52.760 --> 03:48:53.760 Oh boy. 03:48:53.760 --> 03:48:55.760 They're just gonna get the combo down on him. 03:48:55.760 --> 03:48:58.760 Flicking back, BKB up. Wits gets away from the kisses now. 03:48:58.760 --> 03:49:02.760 They just engage while Maureen got found by Stovefield in the back. 03:49:02.760 --> 03:49:04.760 The kill on the puck is nice. 03:49:04.760 --> 03:49:06.760 That's a roof. That's... 03:49:06.760 --> 03:49:08.760 That's jet back. 03:49:08.760 --> 03:49:16.760 So that's bigger than just the puck, the orchid from Frank did his job, won him back the gem, paid for itself in dividends. 03:49:16.760 --> 03:49:19.760 They're gonna give the gem to the shadow fiend now. 03:49:19.760 --> 03:49:26.760 Maybe try and scout for this tiny button play more aggressive with the shadow blade into Silver Edge buildup. 03:49:26.760 --> 03:49:31.760 He must just be on a gem range. 03:49:31.760 --> 03:49:33.760 This is very close. 03:49:34.760 --> 03:49:35.760 See now. 03:49:37.760 --> 03:49:39.760 Wait, just like walking straight in. 03:49:39.760 --> 03:49:42.760 Replaying over a Malvane, and walking into 5-foot damage. 03:49:42.760 --> 03:49:44.760 Comes through so quickly. 03:49:44.760 --> 03:49:47.760 This hero scales like a beast, if you can play him in this way. 03:49:47.760 --> 03:49:49.760 You don't have to go for some cheap garbage items. 03:49:49.760 --> 03:49:53.760 Filled to be a monster in the leaky. 03:49:53.760 --> 03:49:55.760 It's gonna be a big problem. 03:49:55.760 --> 03:49:58.760 Like, I generally think this is a fine Viper carry. 03:49:58.760 --> 03:50:00.760 I think he's pretty good against most of what Falcons have. 03:50:00.760 --> 03:50:06.420 have unless he just gets broken by tiny initially, he just chunks down. That's kind of the only 03:50:06.420 --> 03:50:10.140 scenario where this Viper is not going to have insane impact. He's 13 and 0. 03:50:10.140 --> 03:50:14.260 He's a walking piñata though. If we're able to get on him and kill him, that's a lot of 03:50:14.260 --> 03:50:19.420 money for talking together. That's a big streak. Definitely worth over a thousand for the streak 03:50:19.420 --> 03:50:28.420 alone. No one will die. See, this Viper alive. It's been a quiet one for him. Got that algorithm 03:50:28.420 --> 03:50:33.420 interceptor while back now looking for the octareem. Just takes a while to get there. 03:50:33.420 --> 03:50:37.820 He's sat down at 13,000 net worth. The other big thing for Falcons they have going on is 03:50:37.820 --> 03:50:43.420 these two supports are able to push out waves and farm pretty fast compared to this undying 03:50:43.420 --> 03:50:48.420 Largo. So you're seeing that net worth disparity pick up some of the slack here. 03:50:48.420 --> 03:50:54.420 There's a couple of spells from Snapfrog. There's the wave. Make sure it doesn't push 03:50:54.420 --> 03:50:56.420 I'm pushing into the fence. 03:50:56.420 --> 03:50:59.420 Top lane. A couple of heroes here for Falcons. 03:50:59.420 --> 03:51:01.420 Again, setting up in this area. 03:51:03.420 --> 03:51:07.420 Considering we need to defend this zone against the next Roshan take. 03:51:11.420 --> 03:51:13.420 30 seconds away from Spawning. 03:51:13.420 --> 03:51:15.420 There's going to be a daytime rush though. 03:51:16.420 --> 03:51:19.420 That's why I'm now shifting down to that bottom side of the map. 03:51:19.420 --> 03:51:22.420 Frank and Stofield are sapped by the ancients. 03:51:22.420 --> 03:51:29.420 I kinda like this unrelenting high on Skeeter. 03:51:29.420 --> 03:51:32.420 Because his slow resist is just so freakin high. 03:51:32.420 --> 03:51:34.420 Click him as well, yeah? 03:51:34.420 --> 03:51:39.620 It's pretty nice against a lot of the Undying Viper slow goo they're trying to put on this 03:51:39.620 --> 03:51:40.620 high. 03:51:40.620 --> 03:51:41.620 Maybe he can like kite something out a bit more. 03:51:41.620 --> 03:51:46.420 I mean he has 70% slow resistance when no one's near him. 03:51:46.420 --> 03:51:48.420 Come on, Bro. 03:51:48.420 --> 03:51:50.420 Ah, broken. 03:51:50.420 --> 03:51:52.420 I'm not even gonna bother trying to TP. 03:51:52.420 --> 03:51:55.420 Just put the dead in the water on the ambush pair on his way out. 03:51:55.420 --> 03:51:57.420 This heater finds some sort of trade. 03:51:57.420 --> 03:51:59.420 That's a takey frog. 03:51:59.420 --> 03:52:01.420 He's got 2,000 health with solar crash. 03:52:01.420 --> 03:52:02.420 Oh, he got scouted. 03:52:02.420 --> 03:52:04.420 That's one with a gem. 03:52:04.420 --> 03:52:07.420 Falcon's still rushing up here, though. 03:52:07.420 --> 03:52:11.420 That's a radiant sentry, so they don't see the Shatterfiend just yet. 03:52:11.420 --> 03:52:15.420 They're not even spending spells to try and clear wave. 03:52:15.420 --> 03:52:17.420 Roshan available. 03:52:17.420 --> 03:52:22.420 No need to waste time, if you are playtime, guaranteed objective. 03:52:22.420 --> 03:52:24.420 This one I think you give death. 03:52:24.420 --> 03:52:25.420 Not Frank. 03:52:27.420 --> 03:52:29.420 Time to put Wittles on the high ground. 03:52:29.420 --> 03:52:32.420 Yeah, at least threaten the ability to go high ground. 03:52:34.420 --> 03:52:36.420 So then does he give Gem back to someone else? 03:52:36.420 --> 03:52:37.420 And with Gem? 03:52:39.420 --> 03:52:40.420 No, Frank gets the Aegis. 03:52:40.420 --> 03:52:41.420 What? 03:52:41.420 --> 03:52:44.420 I mean, this is streak man, it's 14-0 Viper. 03:52:44.420 --> 03:52:46.420 He can also hit high ground. 03:52:47.420 --> 03:52:49.020 Let's see what this right click builds. 03:52:49.020 --> 03:52:50.520 Is it gonna buy shard or anything? 03:52:50.520 --> 03:52:53.720 Well, first of all, he's just gonna run at this part before he's beyond this to be expended. 03:52:54.720 --> 03:52:57.020 Mark is a mad rush to disengage, but Crick 03:52:57.620 --> 03:52:59.920 is about to hunt it down by the Ember Spirit. 03:52:59.920 --> 03:53:02.420 Cookies high ground, not be able to do much. 03:53:03.220 --> 03:53:04.920 Like Dark Mark of Godlike. 03:53:06.420 --> 03:53:08.020 And the bottom lane? 03:53:08.020 --> 03:53:09.120 The Requiem! 03:53:09.120 --> 03:53:11.620 Invis Assteptus comes out of nowhere! 03:53:11.620 --> 03:53:13.220 Malorim did not expect it! 03:53:13.820 --> 03:53:16.220 Didn't have the A on this, cause it got parked in that mid lane. 03:53:16.220 --> 03:53:18.220 Nice play call. 03:53:18.220 --> 03:53:23.220 Usually you just run down bottom, go higher on here, put the Viper on the front. 03:53:23.220 --> 03:53:25.220 Ah, Frank's already in the base. 03:53:25.220 --> 03:53:29.220 Yeah, two games in a row, Falton's getting run over completely in the first 30 minutes. 03:53:29.220 --> 03:53:31.220 This is hyper-aggressive, I don't know about this. 03:53:31.220 --> 03:53:35.220 This is why the game in the ages, I guess, is going to wander up by the tier 3s and die. 03:53:35.220 --> 03:53:39.220 Tossback, Ember Spirit, he's deep by the tier 4, he's trying to kill us, naking by the throne. 03:53:39.220 --> 03:53:42.220 Beyond gold like Ember, as they turn, focus tier 3. 03:53:42.220 --> 03:53:48.220 That was the most completely unnecessary way to use that Aegis, but hey, you got something done with it, I guess. 03:53:48.220 --> 03:53:51.220 I killed the Lich, and I'm gonna kill it Tier 3. 03:53:51.220 --> 03:53:54.220 Two stone right up at the front there. 03:53:54.220 --> 03:53:56.220 I hope it's dealt with by Farkin just yet. 03:53:56.220 --> 03:53:58.220 I'm just gonna put Link Ravaged all in. 03:53:58.220 --> 03:53:59.220 They're looking for the angle! 03:53:59.220 --> 03:54:00.220 A BKB! 03:54:00.220 --> 03:54:03.220 Frankie bypasses the tendrils of the tide. 03:54:03.220 --> 03:54:08.220 Snap fly, silence, try to move forward, has to cookie back, greaves up, but dies. 03:54:08.220 --> 03:54:12.020 Tier 3's down and his broken titans are being shredded by the Shadow Fiend. 03:54:12.020 --> 03:54:16.420 Scythe's thrown into the sky, comes back down into all the goo from the lifer. 03:54:16.420 --> 03:54:19.120 Dying to the burn of the Ember Spheron, but he's alive still. 03:54:19.120 --> 03:54:21.220 Now the frog's falling, let's trade it out. 03:54:21.220 --> 03:54:24.420 Shainfrost is good, I'm dying down and skin it with the Tossed Up! 03:54:24.420 --> 03:54:28.020 Coil on this, Ember leaches him and kills him! 03:54:28.020 --> 03:54:30.820 So much Shainfrost damage. 03:54:30.820 --> 03:54:33.820 Double support by, well worth it. 03:54:33.820 --> 03:54:35.120 I think I'll lose a Rax. 03:54:35.120 --> 03:54:36.720 I feel like we've seen this story before. 03:54:36.720 --> 03:54:38.020 We have. 03:54:38.020 --> 03:54:38.940 You really have. 03:54:38.940 --> 03:54:42.940 35 minutes in, double support by Falcons hold their base, only there's a tier 3. 03:54:43.440 --> 03:54:46.560 After 34 minutes of domination out of playtime. 03:54:48.440 --> 03:54:52.640 I don't know if they're like feeling themselves, they're just over excited or what, but... 03:54:53.040 --> 03:54:58.840 I'll call it like I see it Gary, that might have been the most dog shit ages usage you could have possibly imagined in this game. 03:54:58.840 --> 03:55:00.440 Like, what the hell was that? 03:55:00.620 --> 03:55:02.120 Yeah, not ideal! 03:55:02.280 --> 03:55:04.920 It was just, you didn't, there's nothing he's gonna get out of it. 03:55:04.920 --> 03:55:10.860 Like sometimes, okay, if you want to run up the higher on the solo before your team is there because you're gonna like kill some support or something 03:55:10.860 --> 03:55:14.240 Then you know like you're gonna get a reaction. Okay, whatever sure 03:55:14.240 --> 03:55:18.660 But what was that just completely unnecessary the way it's not even there your team's not there 03:55:18.660 --> 03:55:22.220 It's got nothing out of it. Zero is like negative if anything 03:55:23.120 --> 03:55:29.520 Because it kind of prompts at scope you to drop tombstone and then you're in this situation where you can't just properly see just 03:55:29.520 --> 03:55:34.520 Just put the Viper there, let him hit the building, and force Falcons to jump in with Ravage on him. 03:55:34.520 --> 03:55:37.520 Aegis Viper, it's impossible. It's a guaranteed Rax. 03:55:37.520 --> 03:55:40.520 There's no way you should walk away from that scenario without a Rax. 03:55:40.520 --> 03:55:43.520 Gifting Falcons away back in the game? 03:55:43.520 --> 03:55:48.520 And why? Why would you want to give this team any wiggle room? We've seen it before. 03:55:50.520 --> 03:55:53.520 They're giving themselves up for a non-team in the game. 03:55:53.520 --> 03:55:56.520 They're asking for it. After that Aegis, they're asking for it. 03:55:56.520 --> 03:55:58.240 40 minutes in, we got 50 to go. 03:55:58.240 --> 03:56:01.680 I have no sympathy at all if this game goes to 90 minutes. 03:56:01.680 --> 03:56:03.120 You put yourself in this position. 03:56:03.120 --> 03:56:05.720 These early pushes when you have these kind of lane domination lineups 03:56:05.720 --> 03:56:08.120 are really important to execute well. 03:56:08.120 --> 03:56:10.760 Logo shut up. Get out of here. 03:56:13.760 --> 03:56:15.000 Still well ahead. 03:56:15.000 --> 03:56:17.040 Still favorite in the fight, they still have the scaling viper. 03:56:17.040 --> 03:56:20.080 It's not as if they lost a lot there, but they lost the opportunity. 03:56:21.360 --> 03:56:22.760 That's what sucks. 03:56:22.760 --> 03:56:25.160 So, back to Drainports, they're gonna... 03:56:26.520 --> 03:56:29.160 trying to get some more scaling items, tank up on all these heroes. 03:56:31.560 --> 03:56:34.760 Whenever Falcons can be able to farm at this time, they're looking at Lich Hags. 03:56:34.760 --> 03:56:36.160 Honestly, like halfway there. 03:56:37.560 --> 03:56:39.240 3,000 gold on the tie. 03:56:39.600 --> 03:56:42.280 Datal is done for the tiny, almost level 25. 03:56:42.280 --> 03:56:43.280 Kind of scaling up. 03:56:43.280 --> 03:56:44.280 Again there. 03:56:44.280 --> 03:56:47.040 I think it's possible for Falcons to want to play straight up. 03:56:47.480 --> 03:56:49.120 Not easy, but definitely possible. 03:56:49.920 --> 03:56:51.440 Just a matter of finding the right target. 03:56:51.920 --> 03:56:52.600 Yeah, 100%. 03:56:52.600 --> 03:56:55.600 If Datal and Dying, if Rank dies early on, I think the fight's wide open. 03:56:55.600 --> 03:57:01.800 I think he's the most important hero to keep up, has that kind of bulwark, and just consistent damage. 03:57:03.180 --> 03:57:05.420 You see the highest damage dealer? No, but... 03:57:06.300 --> 03:57:09.340 He's almost the scariest hero. You go about a Stieptanik step now. 03:57:10.540 --> 03:57:12.700 It's kinda hard to keep captain at this end this turn. 03:57:12.700 --> 03:57:13.980 We got another tormentor! 03:57:15.420 --> 03:57:18.000 Oh yeah, you're right, it's the second one they've got, right? They stole the first one. 03:57:18.620 --> 03:57:19.660 Grab the second. 03:57:19.660 --> 03:57:21.660 This lead has a knot, bro. 03:57:23.260 --> 03:57:24.620 What is happening in this game? 03:57:24.620 --> 03:57:27.620 Nice diminish. Mark is crashing. 03:57:27.620 --> 03:57:31.620 I'm scared. Yeah, time to invest. 03:57:32.620 --> 03:57:36.620 They know that they've got time on their side. 03:57:36.620 --> 03:57:39.620 Like not losing barracks made such a big deal for them. 03:57:39.620 --> 03:57:41.620 Yeah, it really is. 03:57:41.620 --> 03:57:45.620 A lot of team gold you're missing, a lot of just extra map pressure momentum. 03:57:46.620 --> 03:57:49.620 Some mental confidence. 03:57:49.620 --> 03:57:53.780 It's always a real test playing against Falcons. 03:57:53.780 --> 03:57:59.420 Any little laps in concentration, any little move that you miss play or don't get the 03:57:59.420 --> 03:58:05.260 correct spellcasting, find the wrong guy, or some tiny with silvered suddenly slays 03:58:05.260 --> 03:58:06.860 one of your guys with a one-hit combo. 03:58:06.860 --> 03:58:11.900 I've been throwing a little bit of this game for a while now. 03:58:11.900 --> 03:58:12.900 Alright. 03:58:12.900 --> 03:58:15.860 Was it three minutes until Roche? 03:58:15.860 --> 03:58:17.860 Or at least? 03:58:17.860 --> 03:58:20.860 This next three minutes, what does that do on the map? 03:58:20.860 --> 03:58:25.860 You can't go high ground, there are no tier 2s, there's no objective to take, so it is literally try and find 03:58:25.860 --> 03:58:31.860 kills, pick-offs, push lanes, and that's where Falcons really thrive, they're so good at poking 03:58:31.860 --> 03:58:33.860 back stabbing, cutting waves. 03:58:33.860 --> 03:58:35.860 Why is he chilling up here? 03:58:36.860 --> 03:58:39.860 Is he waiting to ravage somebody on this board or something? But no one's here. 03:58:40.860 --> 03:58:43.860 Thinking about life, you know, pondering the universe. 03:58:44.860 --> 03:58:49.860 I mean, that is some like 2012 off-lane Dota, right? The way he's had to lane this. 03:58:50.860 --> 03:58:55.860 Getting crushed and like hiding in the trees. I'm surprised he doesn't have a quelling blade to cut his way through in League of Legends 3. 03:58:56.860 --> 03:58:57.860 He's a rough series man. 03:58:57.860 --> 03:58:58.860 He really has it. 03:58:58.860 --> 03:59:01.540 The first game, he just got annihilated. 03:59:01.540 --> 03:59:03.460 Yeah, he made some ultra clutch plays in the late game. 03:59:03.460 --> 03:59:06.020 Because he's like, yeah, he's a go-to player. 03:59:06.020 --> 03:59:08.380 But he pretty much got the ballish for most of that game. 03:59:08.380 --> 03:59:09.740 And here, he's also just kind of been 03:59:09.740 --> 03:59:11.860 the ballish for most of the game. 03:59:11.860 --> 03:59:13.540 But he's keeping up there. 03:59:13.540 --> 03:59:14.580 He's not tilting out. 03:59:14.580 --> 03:59:16.180 He's making sure he's finding the farm, 03:59:16.180 --> 03:59:17.420 getting some big late game items. 03:59:17.420 --> 03:59:20.900 He has his 20 talent, so his gush is fully online. 03:59:20.900 --> 03:59:23.820 It's a powerful spell in long fights. 03:59:23.820 --> 03:59:26.420 Not to need for those tiny damage as well. 03:59:26.420 --> 03:59:27.420 It's away from the SF. 03:59:29.920 --> 03:59:31.920 We have the sweeping move out with playtime. 03:59:32.420 --> 03:59:34.920 I'm pushing in two waves at the same time. 03:59:35.920 --> 03:59:37.420 They're thinking about a hygrim here. 03:59:37.920 --> 03:59:38.920 It seems a cliff. 03:59:38.920 --> 03:59:40.920 And they don't have ages for anything this time around. 03:59:40.920 --> 03:59:43.420 They have Viper Shard, so they can't just sit in here. 03:59:43.920 --> 03:59:45.420 Which is what they should have done the first time. 03:59:45.420 --> 03:59:46.420 Yeah. 03:59:46.420 --> 03:59:47.920 But they can still do it now. 03:59:48.420 --> 03:59:49.920 There's a break toss back there. 03:59:49.920 --> 03:59:51.920 So just make sure you have detection now. 03:59:52.420 --> 03:59:54.920 Soonestone's gonna get placed preemptively. 03:59:56.420 --> 04:00:00.580 Well, I'm gonna focus it though double more hits. Yeah, so this was what it should have 04:00:02.180 --> 04:00:06.360 And I don't understand why I was not the case the first time super easy to execute 04:00:08.060 --> 04:00:14.240 Like you put knock ins in position where they have to jump the biker or you can try and look for some smoke flanks 04:00:14.660 --> 04:00:16.660 Teams are pretty good at reading these nowadays 04:00:17.220 --> 04:00:19.220 But it is an option 04:00:19.220 --> 04:00:28.060 He also corraled Falcons all the way into that top part of the map in their base where 04:00:28.060 --> 04:00:33.060 they tried to hide, with this icefire chain for us bouncing into and dying. 04:00:33.060 --> 04:00:37.060 Making spores and doesn't get a trade but a tossback into the ravage points the S-Dab, 04:00:37.060 --> 04:00:41.100 they pummeled him, B-Gibby up and horseman is not enough, he doesn't life steal. 04:00:41.100 --> 04:00:42.100 He's gone. 04:00:42.100 --> 04:00:44.700 Now Falcons disengaging, trying to run away from the Viper. 04:00:44.700 --> 04:00:47.460 The Titan is exposed though as Prank goes to work on him. 04:00:47.460 --> 04:00:48.460 TP optimistic. 04:00:48.460 --> 04:00:54.980 Let's get this picked up a double kill. Darkmargo is caught on the tail of this tiny with Frank. I'm loading that poison attack 04:00:55.380 --> 04:00:58.700 Damaging into the tiny and killing him now on the high ground 04:00:58.700 --> 04:01:04.020 It's the raiding team raiding supreme in the dire bank another chains a catch on Maureen 04:01:04.020 --> 04:01:07.700 But that's gonna signal the end and dark margo goes to the TPL 04:01:08.540 --> 04:01:15.540 Honestly stick execution for Falcons to get this SF kill. He died right before the auto attack with the mechanic was about to hit somebody 04:01:15.540 --> 04:01:20.540 There's a decent chance, there's a very high chance he survives there if that auto attack lands. 04:01:20.540 --> 04:01:29.540 So, very clutch. You gotta remember you have this tombstone shard to get to, like there are save mechanisms in this playtime lineup, but... 04:01:29.540 --> 04:01:39.540 Just a perfect play call. Kind of baiting playtime in a little bit. The S that goes a little too deep and just tossed into ravage into all in with the tiny damage. 04:01:39.540 --> 04:01:43.800 a big kill to find that gives you the popium in this place but ultimately it's 04:01:43.800 --> 04:01:49.860 still got a plan to this Viper. And boy is he up next. Nobody's standing in their ground 04:01:49.860 --> 04:01:52.020 against this hero building stacks. 04:01:52.020 --> 04:01:53.020 I'm sorry, no. 04:01:53.020 --> 04:01:54.020 What's going on here? 04:01:54.020 --> 04:01:55.020 I don't want to get what the hell. 04:01:55.020 --> 04:01:57.020 Deja Vu is another spoiler and chain frost but... 04:01:57.020 --> 04:01:59.020 I feel like we're watching the replay still. 04:01:59.020 --> 04:02:01.860 Oh, that was well, that's not a talk mongo that gets a kill. 04:02:01.860 --> 04:02:03.340 I mean Frank is the carry in this game. 04:02:03.340 --> 04:02:05.340 Yeah, Scotty done. 04:02:05.340 --> 04:02:07.620 4,000 HP, usually taking your base. 04:02:07.620 --> 04:02:11.620 It was always the Viper. It was always supposed to be the Viper. 04:02:11.620 --> 04:02:15.620 One true king. He's 17 and 0. 04:02:15.620 --> 04:02:18.620 He's a beast. 04:02:18.620 --> 04:02:21.620 Yeah, how many of those are the Lich? I don't know, but... 04:02:21.620 --> 04:02:22.620 He's well... 04:02:22.620 --> 04:02:25.620 It's not like anybody else is fighting him, you know? 04:02:25.620 --> 04:02:27.620 16 deaths on Snake and... 04:02:27.620 --> 04:02:31.620 Crazy stat line. 04:02:31.620 --> 04:02:33.620 And he's honestly still pretty far. 04:02:33.620 --> 04:02:37.960 He's not he's not the poorest hero in the game with 16 deaths think about that for a second 04:02:38.880 --> 04:02:40.880 That's where I think Dota on some walls 04:02:42.220 --> 04:02:43.720 Plank fuck please 04:02:43.720 --> 04:02:47.040 He's thanking mountain all the way. I was like the bank right all that show 04:02:47.040 --> 04:02:51.680 How can you have 16 deaths and not be the lowest now worth your somebody explain that to me? 04:02:51.680 --> 04:02:57.280 I feel like that should be a certain point where it's just come on like what are we even doing here? 04:02:57.280 --> 04:02:59.280 So we got three on the frog 04:02:59.280 --> 04:03:04.280 Yeah, greedy, greedy, greedy. 04:03:04.280 --> 04:03:08.280 It's not like he has something insane to do, it's not like he's Connell pushing out waves. 04:03:08.280 --> 04:03:15.280 You know, he got gifted a shard, got some like big kill streak golds, yeah I get it, but come on. 04:03:15.280 --> 04:03:16.280 It ain't right, it ain't right. 04:03:16.280 --> 04:03:17.280 100 GPM? 04:03:17.280 --> 04:03:18.280 What happened to the game I love? 04:03:18.280 --> 04:03:19.280 What happened to the... 04:03:19.280 --> 04:03:20.280 Philosopher's Stone. 04:03:20.280 --> 04:03:24.280 Yeah, what happened to the brown boots vain it 50 minutes? 04:03:24.280 --> 04:03:25.280 Jack-o'-all. 04:03:25.280 --> 04:03:30.680 Six-flotted Crystal Maiden with Observer's entry, Pee-Pee, Tango's, Dust's smoke boots. 04:03:30.680 --> 04:03:33.880 They're gonna go for the Rojka test. Extremely difficult fight. 04:03:33.880 --> 04:03:35.480 Roche's already dead. 04:03:35.480 --> 04:03:39.080 Gush into the pit, Maureen jumps in, but Dark Margo has the Aegis. 04:03:39.080 --> 04:03:42.280 Still smoked up as Falcons, the four of them... 04:03:42.280 --> 04:03:45.880 Falling back to try and push out lanes, it looks like, so... 04:03:45.880 --> 04:03:49.280 I'm not eyeing out the fight now. 04:03:49.280 --> 04:03:51.680 Dust being in this, push is gonna be delayed. 04:03:51.680 --> 04:03:54.480 Get her, Harpoon's away from me, I'm dying. 04:03:54.480 --> 04:03:57.600 And Scofields? That one is...own here. 04:03:58.320 --> 04:04:01.280 Trinfrost is going to get stopped a little bit by this Yulestrapcher. 04:04:02.160 --> 04:04:05.520 Give us a step back, Linus Tier 2. TP's coming in. 04:04:05.920 --> 04:04:12.560 Playtime bring numbers to defend the Undying who honestly has stayed alive through Soul Rippin' Heels, making now 17th death of the game. 04:04:13.040 --> 04:04:16.640 Skitter...is a big-iddy TP time and might just be... 04:04:16.640 --> 04:04:19.040 Crinn asked us to get away from Dark Margo, 04:04:19.040 --> 04:04:20.920 cooking, hopping through the trees, 04:04:20.920 --> 04:04:22.560 but the embers spirits caught up to him. 04:04:22.560 --> 04:04:24.680 As they flew, they found the big targets. 04:04:24.680 --> 04:04:25.800 Some of the bulkers just said, 04:04:25.800 --> 04:04:27.720 cool, we've got a cork kill in the back. 04:04:27.720 --> 04:04:29.600 Will you hunt us, or what? 04:04:29.600 --> 04:04:30.760 He's still alive and dead. 04:04:30.760 --> 04:04:32.120 And Crinn hasn't been found. 04:04:32.120 --> 04:04:33.400 Oh my. 04:04:33.400 --> 04:04:34.720 They lose sight of him. 04:04:34.720 --> 04:04:36.080 But Crinn amazes. 04:04:36.080 --> 04:04:37.160 They've been away from them. 04:04:37.160 --> 04:04:38.120 It's me, I'll get out. 04:04:38.120 --> 04:04:38.960 No way. 04:04:38.960 --> 04:04:40.120 Ty's gonna get used up here. 04:04:40.120 --> 04:04:42.320 Tracks, the tank, please come back in. 04:04:42.320 --> 04:04:44.240 Break the tide and find the cork kill 04:04:44.240 --> 04:04:46.040 like Jasperly needed. 04:04:46.040 --> 04:04:50.760 It's the same scenario though, very clutch-fined with the tiny damage on this SF. 04:04:50.760 --> 04:04:55.680 It stalls this game a little longer, you're not solving the Viper problem, but you're 04:04:55.680 --> 04:04:58.680 sticking in it. 04:04:58.680 --> 04:05:03.160 I don't really know what solves this Viper problem, it's going to have to be a monster 04:05:03.160 --> 04:05:04.160 effort here. 04:05:04.160 --> 04:05:31.480 It's just gonna have to be either tossback, like break tossback, or all in ravage him. 04:05:31.480 --> 04:05:45.480 They'll be able to survive the fight. You can't die. They have to damage it. It has to be entirely fork and middle and so far they've been playing into Aegis, which has been preventing that all in attempt. 04:05:45.480 --> 04:05:49.680 He's putting a lot of focus on Witt as well. 04:05:49.680 --> 04:05:54.760 I thought he was going to start getting to him, because I said this entire series, it 04:05:54.760 --> 04:05:59.000 really has felt like Falcons have put the target on his back. 04:05:59.000 --> 04:06:04.760 He said, kill this young star player, get Witt's dead every single time we see him. 04:06:04.760 --> 04:06:06.280 They've had his number. 04:06:06.280 --> 04:06:10.600 That's what the S-Uppin' game like this is a lot. 04:06:10.600 --> 04:06:13.200 But they're also giving ages to the other two cores. 04:06:13.200 --> 04:06:17.640 So they're splitting the focus here, and they're saying, you know what, our tricor is strong, 04:06:17.640 --> 04:06:20.140 and I'm like, yeah, maybe you kill Asaph, but the other two are going to carry the fight, 04:06:20.140 --> 04:06:21.140 and I think that's very reasonable. 04:06:21.140 --> 04:06:28.400 Share the load, delegate the responsibilities, can't hold the on-your phones one. 04:06:28.400 --> 04:06:32.960 This Viper's such a beast, the butterfly done, and he has the 25 talents, so it was 15 seconds 04:06:32.960 --> 04:06:36.160 on that Viper strike, it's just brutal for this Tiny and Tide. 04:06:36.160 --> 04:06:40.500 I love when Flybats don't attack speed, he's flapping his wings like an hammer, like Madman's 04:06:40.500 --> 04:06:42.560 at Hummingbird, coming through. 04:06:42.560 --> 04:06:45.560 He also got quick in pretty nice on the Europe with a new speed in the evasion 04:06:46.560 --> 04:06:49.560 I'll ring you to try to play away for the Roshan fan that gets placed 04:06:50.560 --> 04:06:52.560 Here it comes Frank, the front 04:06:52.560 --> 04:06:54.560 Reaves it up, what are you gonna do? 04:06:55.560 --> 04:06:57.560 Just down the creep wave, looking for the little shredder on the tomb 04:06:57.560 --> 04:07:00.560 Tying him in with a tossed back into a rambex, there's the combo 04:07:00.560 --> 04:07:03.560 Catching him as well, they're doing it up, frag is down 04:07:03.560 --> 04:07:05.560 Chain Frost, he's gonna get stopped 04:07:06.560 --> 04:07:09.560 Spread out onto the creep wave in the back as the Aegis from Dark Margot gets claimed 04:07:09.560 --> 04:07:15.500 He'll pop back up kisses launched in now towards the frog dealing with El Misho as they lose the range baron stop 04:07:16.020 --> 04:07:20.680 But now clean up time to man banner killing that viper was how much gold? Oh? 04:07:21.720 --> 04:07:23.720 Yeah, at the street great 04:07:25.600 --> 04:07:30.120 2300 1150 going to Maureen yeah, that was a big ass kill 04:07:30.840 --> 04:07:33.120 Look at car get our mother has to be KP 04:07:33.120 --> 04:07:35.760 He's got three remnants and Refresher Shard to play with. 04:07:35.760 --> 04:07:38.040 Gonna use any requiem from Witt. 04:07:38.040 --> 04:07:40.600 Looking to turn us onto a Marv, that tide is too tanky now. 04:07:40.600 --> 04:07:42.600 I hate this kid to a tiny come in. 04:07:42.600 --> 04:07:44.080 Oh, let's trouble storm for Witt's. 04:07:44.080 --> 04:07:45.840 The Shadowbeak is found and killed. 04:07:45.840 --> 04:07:48.240 As Falcons find their move now in. 04:07:48.240 --> 04:07:49.240 Rhythm for them. 04:07:49.240 --> 04:07:51.160 The Dot Mugger picks up a double kill. 04:07:51.160 --> 04:07:52.920 A Marv's taking down. 04:07:52.920 --> 04:07:54.600 An Ember Spirit. 04:07:54.600 --> 04:07:56.200 He's printed off the left-hand side. 04:07:56.200 --> 04:07:57.480 Spending Refresher Shards for it. 04:07:57.480 --> 04:07:59.520 Two remnants remaining, but the hunt is on. 04:07:59.520 --> 04:08:00.920 Skinner is looking for it. 04:08:00.920 --> 04:08:03.640 Korea's snipe and Malree's jump, Wing Rifted the coin, 04:08:03.640 --> 04:08:11.080 Sons and Snap, stunning him up, tossing the sky and land with a thot as Falcons find their move yet again! 04:08:12.080 --> 04:08:20.160 This team is so sick from behind, like, they just give you so little advantage, they take advantage of your mistakes to such a large degree. 04:08:20.920 --> 04:08:22.360 Such a punishing team. 04:08:23.800 --> 04:08:27.000 We talked about how they're gonna kill the Viper, it has to be the tossback all in. 04:08:27.000 --> 04:08:32.100 You did perfectly I think he Frank had a moment to be gave me and you have to pop it early 04:08:32.640 --> 04:08:38.120 Because you do get all like this tiny has the damage you got to respect that there's no interference 04:08:38.120 --> 04:08:41.600 There's no state. There's no be convenient. Count ravages gonna stop the entire day 04:08:42.920 --> 04:08:47.720 Like maybe there's a world you play ultra far back as go field and then you can just like Lincoln to stone somebody 04:08:47.720 --> 04:08:51.120 But it's tough against tight hunter a always silence from puck 04:08:51.120 --> 04:08:55.260 I'm not going to win Raker yet. 04:08:55.260 --> 04:08:56.700 I'm going to keep them rally ups. 04:08:56.700 --> 04:08:57.700 Go fuel. 04:08:57.700 --> 04:08:59.420 I'm going to play a chat into his teammates. 04:08:59.420 --> 04:09:00.420 He's like, go again. 04:09:00.420 --> 04:09:01.420 I can do it again. 04:09:01.420 --> 04:09:03.540 All right, at this point you're thinking this is like game one. 04:09:03.540 --> 04:09:04.540 You had a lead. 04:09:04.540 --> 04:09:06.260 You had control of this game. 04:09:06.260 --> 04:09:08.060 You messed up a little bit of that execution. 04:09:08.060 --> 04:09:11.100 You took some buildings, but what does it really matter if Falcons can hit their home 04:09:11.100 --> 04:09:15.740 and now all of a sudden they're scaling real well? 04:09:15.740 --> 04:09:22.460 If Blink tiny, late game Puck with overwhelming Blink 4 has Puck on Patrick Hall, I mean... 04:09:22.460 --> 04:09:25.980 He just raided the Bank of Frank and took all the money from it. 04:09:25.980 --> 04:09:28.220 His Malrin Puck is top of the net worth. 04:09:28.220 --> 04:09:30.460 Oh yeah, they got Ags on Lich too. 04:09:31.460 --> 04:09:37.900 It might just be straight and stronger if the Viper does not BKB at the exact right time or get saved. 04:09:37.900 --> 04:09:39.340 I think Valkyries are favorite. 04:09:39.340 --> 04:09:43.100 A lot is dependent on what playtime can do around Frank on that frontline. 04:09:43.100 --> 04:09:45.580 Or maybe you're just supposed to send the Ember in. 04:09:45.580 --> 04:09:49.580 You know, it creates base by like, swift blink on Viper for follow up or something. 04:09:50.580 --> 04:09:56.580 And look at this, an aggressive smoke. This is not for Roche. This is not to defend the base. This is to find blood. 04:09:57.580 --> 04:09:58.580 He's in the water. 04:09:59.580 --> 04:10:01.580 Damn damage puck. Dear lord. 04:10:01.580 --> 04:10:02.580 Ah, this is big. 04:10:03.580 --> 04:10:06.580 Frank is out in the open. He needs to get licked back by the frog. 04:10:06.580 --> 04:10:08.580 Have to jump together though. 04:10:08.580 --> 04:10:13.580 This is not a base defense fight, so you don't have that option of just like, we're going to toss him in a ravage and it's super easy. 04:10:13.580 --> 04:10:18.580 You need to be super synchronized on these jumps if you're falcons. They've been very good about it so far. 04:10:20.580 --> 04:10:22.580 Now playtime have that terrain advantage playing. 04:10:22.580 --> 04:10:26.580 It's on the staircase. It's the high grounds. There's that extra bit of vision. 04:10:28.580 --> 04:10:32.580 The Dire have an observable near-arrangements though, so they could see this access point. 04:10:32.580 --> 04:10:37.580 And Malarine keeps jumping in and out to give even more intel to falcons to know what's up. 04:10:37.580 --> 04:10:39.580 Really annoying. 04:10:39.580 --> 04:10:49.140 He also mentions the Hydra breast that far, cause he's going for it, he took the Shredder 04:10:49.140 --> 04:10:54.140 Talon, he does have pretty strong Talons with Double Cookie plus the extra Mortar Mark 04:10:54.140 --> 04:10:57.560 Kisses launch, it can be really strong in the laning phase, but if he takes the Shredder 04:10:57.560 --> 04:11:00.900 target he's probably going to take the Shredder damage, well I guess he could still take 04:11:00.900 --> 04:11:04.180 either of the 25 longs, even with the Hydra's breath. 04:11:04.180 --> 04:11:08.900 Cause she was in that realm of plus pull Windranger and Chandra's back in the day where you did 04:11:08.900 --> 04:11:19.900 You didn't actually scale, like the old Glip'nade was cool, but honestly sometimes just going like a kaius on or something into the Mortimer Talon is more damage than trying to, like, re-pivot into physical. 04:11:19.900 --> 04:11:22.900 That's my only question with this idea, but... 04:11:22.900 --> 04:11:25.900 Bolt's really the get there, I don't think he's gonna be sad no matter what. 04:11:25.900 --> 04:11:27.900 Samlins, this game continues. 04:11:27.900 --> 04:11:32.900 Especially when your combo is this toss back into the Rampage, right? You just want the Alpha damage, immediate blow up. 04:11:32.900 --> 04:11:35.900 I'll see how it works out for him though. 04:11:35.900 --> 04:11:43.140 I think it's our fresher on tide scheme gets real weird to play in the fights 04:11:43.140 --> 04:11:47.420 it's just so much a we control between double ravage bitch pull have a 04:11:47.420 --> 04:11:54.340 lanch going out double toss coil like as if the past couple days of don't turn 04:11:54.340 --> 04:11:58.100 dream league in general wasn't weird enough that is true like a whole 04:11:58.100 --> 04:12:03.620 thing's going on strange ass meadow we are feels have to watch this puck 25 04:12:03.620 --> 04:12:06.900 talent which you know people used to just take the dream coil snap but now you 04:12:06.900 --> 04:12:12.260 have this larger waning lift that's gonna catch you off guard. It's a big silence. 04:12:12.260 --> 04:12:15.620 The Valken's with another smoke. 04:12:15.620 --> 04:12:18.500 This Corvill has an useless dirge. 04:12:18.500 --> 04:12:20.100 Now we're gonna jump him. 04:12:20.100 --> 04:12:25.580 Immediately respawns. They don't claim the gem. Now two man chains. This Lich and 04:12:25.580 --> 04:12:29.260 Punkett and Cork toss back the save in but Dark Market goes fishing. Diving to the 04:12:29.260 --> 04:12:32.140 the back while Marina's being backed by the SF. 04:12:32.140 --> 04:12:36.040 Decker Revenant trying to focus on this ember spirit but he's just BKB'd up and charging 04:12:36.040 --> 04:12:37.040 in towards them. 04:12:37.040 --> 04:12:39.580 Probably Revenant's spent but now out of mana. 04:12:39.580 --> 04:12:43.860 So Lich dead buys back and Dying died and respawn back to a 5v5. 04:12:43.860 --> 04:12:46.020 He really needs to watch out for that. 04:12:46.020 --> 04:12:49.460 He's known the whole team but there's no follow-up. 04:12:49.460 --> 04:12:50.460 Spent his refresher. 04:12:50.460 --> 04:12:57.460 God's making I guess, death number 19 get wrecked or what? 04:12:57.460 --> 04:13:00.700 Oh, that's a Malcolm War territory? 04:13:00.700 --> 04:13:02.900 Or he was 0 and 0 and 21? 04:13:02.900 --> 04:13:04.900 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. 04:13:04.900 --> 04:13:06.300 I don't know what to say to him anyway. 04:13:06.300 --> 04:13:07.980 This is where it helps to have a little veteranship. 04:13:07.980 --> 04:13:09.620 You know, it's like, yeah, you can kill me 19 times, 04:13:09.620 --> 04:13:11.860 but I already want 2 TI's and whatever. 04:13:11.860 --> 04:13:13.300 And if I can. 04:13:13.300 --> 04:13:15.580 Also, I think snaking is probably one of the longest 04:13:15.580 --> 04:13:18.220 and most difficult careers of any player. 04:13:18.220 --> 04:13:19.900 Well, coming up through like Dignitas and stuff 04:13:19.900 --> 04:13:21.340 all in NA Dota. 04:13:21.340 --> 04:13:23.100 You start off really hot, and then you just 04:13:23.100 --> 04:13:25.780 have this seven or eight years where you just 04:13:25.780 --> 04:13:29.780 Don't get to do anything. You're sitting there going, why am I even in this game? 04:13:29.780 --> 04:13:30.780 Wallowing. 04:13:30.780 --> 04:13:35.780 Yeah, and then you get just a meteoric rise in the span of two or three years. 04:13:36.780 --> 04:13:39.780 So he's not gonna be shaking. Staking doesn't tilt. 04:13:40.780 --> 04:13:43.780 He's almost in the fires, his neck's all strong. 04:13:44.780 --> 04:13:46.780 Rush in, just falling down. 04:13:46.780 --> 04:13:48.780 Maybe at like 39, that's... 04:13:49.780 --> 04:13:53.780 If we double him, you know, if he doubles his death toll, I think then he'll be tilted. 04:13:53.780 --> 04:13:58.620 But 19 that's nothing for the man. He played it. Oh, does he? I think you get to that point and it's just funny 04:13:58.620 --> 04:14:00.620 Like there's actually just hilarious 04:14:01.220 --> 04:14:06.540 Another roach force. Falcons will absolutely detest this one. And his bum on dying doesn't have that respawn. That's true 04:14:06.540 --> 04:14:11.540 He's out kisses into the pin tiny being held back by Darmago, but Frank has the Aegis 04:14:12.100 --> 04:14:14.940 Throw some gushes in there. Didn't feel anything. No 04:14:15.980 --> 04:14:17.980 Okay 04:14:17.980 --> 04:14:21.780 I'm gonna put this 5v4, some Aegis Double Cheese for the Radiance side. 04:14:21.780 --> 04:14:24.580 I think they'll win, claim what they wanted, now they're backed away. 04:14:24.580 --> 04:14:27.080 And that's a success for playtime. 04:14:28.980 --> 04:14:31.480 Happy to trade on Dine for all the goodies here. 04:14:32.480 --> 04:14:33.580 Especially in Aegis on the Viper. 04:14:33.580 --> 04:14:35.680 Aegis on Viper counts for a lot in this game. 04:14:36.880 --> 04:14:38.680 It's the only way you're ever going to hire him. 04:14:39.380 --> 04:14:41.480 Even then, I don't know, it's spooky now. 04:14:45.980 --> 04:14:47.380 It's a much-hannock tiny. 04:14:47.980 --> 04:14:49.980 H6 lights worked. 04:14:49.980 --> 04:14:51.980 Oh, disgustingly good, man. 04:14:53.980 --> 04:14:55.980 That's got something, like, looking at these Vipers and Ventries, like, 04:14:55.980 --> 04:14:57.980 okay, you can scale, that's like an acronym, step to next, 04:14:57.980 --> 04:14:59.980 to finish your blood form, and then H6 fires. 04:14:59.980 --> 04:15:01.980 I think they're getting out of here. 04:15:01.980 --> 04:15:03.980 He's hitting the wall. 04:15:04.980 --> 04:15:06.980 And I'm on down this bottom lane. 04:15:06.980 --> 04:15:08.980 Big old Leviathan. 04:15:08.980 --> 04:15:10.980 Waddling away, help by skitter, 04:15:10.980 --> 04:15:11.980 the tosser off to the sky, 04:15:11.980 --> 04:15:12.980 Elmisha goes back down, 04:15:12.980 --> 04:15:14.980 and they've got the chain frost on Dagmago, 04:15:14.980 --> 04:15:16.980 with the leash out dead in the water. 04:15:16.980 --> 04:15:19.280 They need a bit more damage out of Skidger who will offer it. 04:15:19.280 --> 04:15:20.580 Now the Vipers strike though. 04:15:20.580 --> 04:15:22.380 Shad of Fiend alongside Frank. 04:15:22.380 --> 04:15:26.380 They've got a coil in the back, holding them away from Tiny, but Dark Muggles returned. 04:15:26.380 --> 04:15:27.780 A buyback from the Emberspirers. 04:15:27.780 --> 04:15:30.380 Catches up to him for the ravages as far as the stun. 04:15:30.380 --> 04:15:33.180 This Emberspirers just gets back in, he's done! 04:15:33.180 --> 04:15:34.480 Down he goes! 04:15:34.480 --> 04:15:36.980 They've got a chase board, SF and Viper need something. 04:15:36.980 --> 04:15:39.280 Gush is thrown out, Malwing poking on the SF. 04:15:39.280 --> 04:15:41.180 He can't light fuel up, yes he can! 04:15:41.180 --> 04:15:44.080 Back to full off the creep wave some way somehow! 04:15:44.080 --> 04:15:51.880 More gush is spammed in as this big ol' snack fires BKB eat up, a requiem wound and thrown out and a skinner with another toss in the sky. 04:15:51.880 --> 04:15:57.680 Frank is isolated completely in the maw, he's done with a shadowpeen, now he played the in-and-out spell well. 04:15:58.680 --> 04:16:03.880 Fall down, and the fifth is gonna be Frank, he's got some BKB TP, and this one is over. 04:16:03.880 --> 04:16:07.680 I'm dying, somehow re-enter the fight to get slain again. 04:16:08.080 --> 04:16:10.480 They kited them to perfection. 04:16:11.280 --> 04:16:13.080 Skeeter is just a beast in this series. 04:16:13.080 --> 04:16:19.580 His ability to manage his resources is HP, kite in and out, find the right target is immaculate. 04:16:19.580 --> 04:16:25.580 An insane fight for Falcons as they have two heroes dealing over 8,000 damage. 04:16:25.580 --> 04:16:29.580 This fight for didn't get to do anything, they're just spent chasing the whole time. 04:16:29.580 --> 04:16:31.080 Now look at all the fish. 04:16:31.080 --> 04:16:33.580 This one of mine is three fish with a gem. 04:16:33.580 --> 04:16:35.080 Just hit it on the floor. 04:16:35.080 --> 04:16:37.080 There's four fish actually, there's another one by the pool. 04:16:37.080 --> 04:16:40.080 That grafted plummeted down at the Mariana trench. 04:16:40.080 --> 04:16:47.080 There's always a risk with this lineup of getting kited, not having enough lockdown or your support's going to be able to have the hard impact you need. 04:16:47.080 --> 04:16:53.080 A very discoordinated fight for playtime for sure. The Emperor going in solo with no BKB on the respawn. 04:16:53.080 --> 04:16:56.080 What's the gym? What's the gym? In between a little bloody fish. 04:16:56.080 --> 04:16:58.080 He's got it. 04:16:58.080 --> 04:17:00.080 That's a nice sound. 04:17:00.080 --> 04:17:04.080 Very, very calming. Moist, cloud-wise, chaotic game. 04:17:04.080 --> 04:17:10.080 level 30 now in this tiny three as the toss charges and the avalanche cool down 04:17:10.080 --> 04:17:16.500 huge in this game my goodness and you're no buy on ember spirit or I'm dying 20 04:17:16.500 --> 04:17:22.080 seconds to ask that who's not going to spend his a glut to slow things down 04:17:22.080 --> 04:17:26.500 tier three of the Falcons and you can find the confidence to come up and click 04:17:26.500 --> 04:17:32.220 the building just thinking I'll get the tree and wall of it before the Crimson 04:17:32.220 --> 04:17:37.420 got on this frog that was a bit of protection so they don't get it 04:17:38.540 --> 04:17:45.300 she's not able to collapse on this high ground all about the tiny except you 04:17:45.300 --> 04:17:50.020 have this punk-running interference now is Dagon it's gonna go to the Dagon 5 04:17:50.020 --> 04:17:56.660 should be a menace on the frontline you have tied just finished a refresher so 04:17:56.660 --> 04:17:59.660 And now you have double 3.4 second ravage to deal with it. 04:18:00.660 --> 04:18:01.660 Getting to be too much! 04:18:01.660 --> 04:18:03.660 BKB TP out of timing. 04:18:03.660 --> 04:18:04.660 Oh, they don't have any BKB to save. 04:18:04.660 --> 04:18:06.660 Oh, nothing to go through it. 04:18:08.660 --> 04:18:14.660 This feels very similar to last game where your SF just can't match up with my team. 04:18:14.660 --> 04:18:16.660 Just doesn't... 04:18:16.660 --> 04:18:19.660 Doesn't do enough? Doesn't have enough Spain power? 04:18:21.660 --> 04:18:22.660 Why is it shut down? 04:18:22.660 --> 04:18:26.660 Our Hatchi-Carries just... ass? 04:18:26.660 --> 04:18:29.660 That's all I'm learning is. 04:18:29.660 --> 04:18:33.660 Why would you play an Hatchi-Carry? They all get out of the field in the late game. 04:18:33.660 --> 04:18:36.660 We saw the same thing with Terrible in a lot of these games, right? 04:18:36.660 --> 04:18:37.660 It's just... 04:18:37.660 --> 04:18:39.660 I guess Dawnbreaker will tie me, though. 04:18:39.660 --> 04:18:41.660 Exactly, it's just better. 04:18:41.660 --> 04:18:42.660 6,000 HP. 04:18:42.660 --> 04:18:43.660 He'll pass it. 04:18:43.660 --> 04:18:46.660 Well, Frank is gonna PKB for this barracks. 04:18:46.660 --> 04:18:48.660 They can chuck in the chain frost. 04:18:48.660 --> 04:18:50.660 They aren't just getting popped. 04:18:50.660 --> 04:18:55.160 Dark Margo, I'm going to try and toy with him as he bKBs through that dead in the water, 04:18:55.160 --> 04:18:57.160 drag the Acre along with him. 04:18:57.160 --> 04:19:03.160 Zapper the daekon, forces Elmisho to eat the cheese as his firing stayed alive. 04:19:03.160 --> 04:19:06.160 Noreen, he'll pull it again. 04:19:06.160 --> 04:19:09.560 Kisses landing towards Elmisho, looking for this long-range knife, gets the numbers of 04:19:09.560 --> 04:19:13.160 damage now and with the Ravage connecting onto a couple in the back. 04:19:13.160 --> 04:19:16.360 They're looking at Dark Margo with the Avalanche chopped off, they've got him with a second 04:19:16.360 --> 04:19:17.360 Ravage! 04:19:17.360 --> 04:19:24.260 Amar, help Cret find it, and now Maureen is into the backlines, forcing the Scatter out of playtime. 04:19:24.260 --> 04:19:28.860 They've got a TP out of here, they don't have numbers anymore, it's possible to find him alive and running at ya. 04:19:28.860 --> 04:19:33.860 I'm surprised to get out of there with those cores. They are losing the Rax mid, but very slowly. 04:19:35.860 --> 04:19:37.860 16 minutes! 04:19:37.860 --> 04:19:38.860 16 minutes! 04:19:38.860 --> 04:19:41.860 Yeah, there's the Midas on the Lich. 04:19:41.860 --> 04:19:44.860 Instantly trying to gobble up some neutral items here. 04:19:44.860 --> 04:19:46.860 That double ravage is so difficult to fight. 04:19:48.440 --> 04:19:48.940 You need- 04:19:49.900 --> 04:19:53.900 I don't know what you need. You need like divine rape your swift blink to cast that first something. 04:19:54.140 --> 04:19:58.380 You also need this buyback to come off cooldown for Dark Lago. The ember needs two lives in these fights. 04:19:58.940 --> 04:20:00.060 Too much lock down for him. 04:20:02.300 --> 04:20:02.800 Alright, this- 04:20:03.500 --> 04:20:05.500 This take on puck is also real nasty. 04:20:05.740 --> 04:20:07.340 Yeah, they don't have stuns for it. 04:20:08.060 --> 04:20:08.460 You have point- 04:20:08.460 --> 04:20:11.020 Take off powers here and you need the never-ending to come and deal with him. 04:20:11.580 --> 04:20:12.940 Really? You need a miracle. 04:20:14.860 --> 04:20:23.360 30 seconds is a long time in Dota when you've got Falcons looking at the map rubbing their 04:20:23.360 --> 04:20:31.860 hands together, all tier 2's, tier 3's, high ground, and Maureen just jumping in and zapping 04:20:31.860 --> 04:20:36.360 you with no answer. 04:20:36.360 --> 04:20:40.380 So hard to lock down this tiny one when he has all the status and floors, plus frost shield, 04:20:40.380 --> 04:20:44.540 plus cookies, four stabs, some tight legs. 04:20:44.540 --> 04:20:45.540 That's ridiculous. 04:20:45.540 --> 04:20:46.540 That's spider legs now. 04:20:46.540 --> 04:20:47.540 Look at him go. 04:20:47.540 --> 04:20:48.540 Look at the bucket. 04:20:48.540 --> 04:20:49.540 What are you doing against that? 04:20:49.540 --> 04:20:50.540 Ha ha ha. 04:20:50.540 --> 04:20:56.420 Nice little rock move so quick. 04:20:56.420 --> 04:20:58.540 Divine regalia's for the puck in the S F. 04:20:58.540 --> 04:20:59.540 Go field. 04:20:59.540 --> 04:21:00.540 Looks like he's dead. 04:21:00.540 --> 04:21:03.540 Anchored up by the tide hunter. 04:21:03.540 --> 04:21:04.540 Trying to stand. 04:21:04.540 --> 04:21:07.540 Go head to head with the tide. 04:21:07.540 --> 04:21:10.540 You can't even kill the anchor off. 04:21:10.540 --> 04:21:12.540 Wayne Puck is here to slay him. 04:21:14.540 --> 04:21:18.540 Divine Regalia Dagon 5 Prasma Puck, level 30. 04:21:21.540 --> 04:21:23.540 He's got a 30-second Dream Coil. 04:21:27.540 --> 04:21:30.540 He's got like a 8-second Wayne Rift that covers the screen. 04:21:30.540 --> 04:21:31.540 Very balanced. 04:21:31.540 --> 04:21:32.540 Zero cooldown. 04:21:32.540 --> 04:21:33.540 Very balanced. 04:21:33.540 --> 04:21:35.540 Castery spells every 3 seconds. 04:21:37.540 --> 04:21:38.540 That's great. 04:21:38.540 --> 04:21:47.500 25k litre Falcons, 46-29, 30 minutes of domination from playtime just turned on its head. 04:21:47.500 --> 04:21:50.660 Classic Falcons fashion, find a few moments to shine. 04:21:50.660 --> 04:21:52.660 I feel like we felt it coming. 04:21:52.660 --> 04:21:57.300 We felt that the lead was not growing, they weren't getting enough out of that time period, 04:21:57.300 --> 04:21:59.300 they weren't executing the high ground pushes. 04:21:59.300 --> 04:22:01.300 There's lots of little things, really. 04:22:01.300 --> 04:22:03.300 The way they should. 04:22:03.300 --> 04:22:07.300 The torment they're snipe losing the gen early on, the wasted aegis going high ground. 04:22:07.300 --> 04:22:14.820 Just those things add up. That's why we're here. You can't look at this game and ignore all those little steps and just say like oh, man 04:22:14.820 --> 04:22:16.820 We got outplayed a 04:22:19.700 --> 04:22:22.660 Lack of structure that's the thing that defines a lot of these top 04:22:23.980 --> 04:22:25.980 EU teams they're just 04:22:26.420 --> 04:22:30.500 They know how to execute these scenarios. They played them a lot of times and 04:22:31.180 --> 04:22:34.660 It's historically been a strong advantage against some of the weaker regions 04:22:34.660 --> 04:22:37.660 Just don't get as many reps as these types of scenarios. 04:22:37.660 --> 04:22:40.660 How many of these types of games has Falcons played or thought through? 04:22:40.660 --> 04:22:43.660 They know how to take the team fights. They know how to push high ground. 04:22:43.660 --> 04:22:47.660 They know how to win championships. It really shows in these moments. 04:22:47.660 --> 04:22:49.660 They're going for the game-mender right here. 04:22:49.660 --> 04:22:54.660 Yeah, whatever you interview, Falcons player or spirit player, any of these top-top teams 04:22:54.660 --> 04:22:58.660 that are always talking about that system, Corbin system, the Porsche system, 04:22:58.660 --> 04:23:02.660 Audi system, whatever kind of algorithm or game plan that they've got, 04:23:02.660 --> 04:23:08.840 followed to a T has been practiced. Skills honed, knives sharp, Falcons 04:23:08.840 --> 04:23:13.260 readying themselves for another Roshan take. No need to rush anything here. They 04:23:13.260 --> 04:23:18.060 know they got playtime under lock and key in that radiant base. Just play through 04:23:18.060 --> 04:23:23.660 this radiant ancients from the high ground into two lanes. Wait for Rosh. Out 04:23:23.660 --> 04:23:31.060 farm the map. Slowly does it. So we got a respect, the first damage coming out from 04:23:31.060 --> 04:23:34.600 the Viper SF if they're in the middle of the fight hitting the tiny that's kind 04:23:34.600 --> 04:23:38.980 of the one scenario you want to avoid but you have a lot of ways to avoid it. 04:23:40.660 --> 04:23:47.660 Five aclimes, three meridian, five redire, farkens with the big advantage in that regard. 04:23:47.660 --> 04:23:55.360 Smoke out. Trying to get the jump here is almost impossible you have a blink 04:23:55.360 --> 04:24:00.260 hex on dying that's your initiation. This is pretty all in as well divine regalia 04:24:00.260 --> 04:24:07.260 SF and Ember. This fight has to work out for them. Look at Maury, he's in their base. 04:24:07.260 --> 04:24:17.020 What are you going to do? Stay on this part, have control. Jumping over. Try to catch him. 04:24:17.020 --> 04:24:21.980 He's on his face shift. I don't know how he dies. Well, it's going to get silent. 04:24:21.980 --> 04:24:28.100 Ember's going to pop, another face shift comes. We've got K guys and Orb. So we can jump over 04:24:28.100 --> 04:24:33.100 with the blink and BKB TP out and away he goes. 04:24:33.100 --> 04:24:35.100 See ya! 04:24:35.100 --> 04:24:38.100 Nothing against that unless someone wants to build a pistol here. 04:24:43.100 --> 04:24:46.100 Hey, on disc on cooldown? BKB on cooldown, though. 04:24:47.100 --> 04:24:49.100 Roaches available. Cross in the map. 04:24:49.100 --> 04:24:53.100 Technically, you can go fight now, maybe not the worst opportunity. 04:24:53.100 --> 04:24:55.100 You have 5s to do it with as well. 04:24:55.100 --> 04:24:57.100 You don't get many bad chances. 04:24:57.100 --> 04:24:59.900 You gotta take advantage of these small openings in the lagging. 04:24:59.900 --> 04:25:02.700 Frank, there's quite a lagging in. 04:25:02.700 --> 04:25:05.100 Any little incremental league you can build, 04:25:05.100 --> 04:25:08.900 anything you can snatch away from them, you just pour staff into them. 04:25:08.900 --> 04:25:11.300 I can't find anybody. 04:25:11.300 --> 04:25:13.900 Soft reset from Falcons, they're all ghosts. 04:25:13.900 --> 04:25:18.500 Visible, pour staff drifting away and now looking for the re-entry. 04:25:18.500 --> 04:25:21.300 I mean if you happen to ram, it just lands on the Viper, 04:25:21.300 --> 04:25:24.100 toss him down and kill him off, pours the Vibeck out of him. 04:25:24.100 --> 04:25:30.900 Try and kiss board as well as Dark Margo plays into the backlight on the snapfire, but Malina's skidder have already done the damage. 04:25:30.900 --> 04:25:39.700 Three arrows down, one is board back, and Shedaphin, Ember's spirit, Dark Margo on the run, low HP, he's gonna rev it away after changing up this bug. 04:25:39.700 --> 04:25:45.100 Falcon's so happy with this, they're like, okay, well, no shat time, there's a double damage rune as well! 04:25:45.100 --> 04:25:47.100 They're just so good at playing these laggy fights. 04:25:47.100 --> 04:25:52.100 Exactly how you should play them. It's not everybody committing on once, you're not over committing on any one hero. 04:25:52.100 --> 04:25:54.100 You're just finding these little jumps, 04:25:54.100 --> 04:25:56.900 abusing the puck on the front line, always giving you vision. 04:25:56.900 --> 04:26:00.500 And then when you see an opening, you go, you commit, you kill that guy, you instantly back off. 04:26:00.500 --> 04:26:05.500 You're not chasing, you're not running into some big way AOE turnaround, or high ground ward. 04:26:06.800 --> 04:26:09.700 They're not looking to team-wide view, they're looking to win the game. 04:26:09.700 --> 04:26:11.600 There's a big difference between those two. 04:26:11.600 --> 04:26:16.000 This will be a refresher shard for somebody ages on the tiny, that means he can go hit the high ground. 04:26:16.000 --> 04:26:22.000 Very controlled lakey-tea fighting this series of falcons, and I think that has been a big difference maker 04:26:23.000 --> 04:26:25.000 His playtime just rambling them 04:26:26.000 --> 04:26:28.000 He didn't find an opening in this formation 04:26:29.000 --> 04:26:34.000 Yeah, but when you're flying for his hurricane parking into the middle of three of falcons, you know they're desperate 04:26:35.000 --> 04:26:36.000 And he has no disabled 04:26:37.000 --> 04:26:39.000 What's he really gonna do even if he connects on somebody? 04:26:42.000 --> 04:26:45.000 His vision is not nearly as useful as the vision Maureen's providing because the 04:26:46.000 --> 04:26:50.560 Huck is setting up the time here of the double ravage jump which is just a hundred to zero death. 04:26:51.200 --> 04:26:52.880 The Viper's vision is setting up. 04:26:54.320 --> 04:26:56.400 What? Viper? That's it? 04:26:56.400 --> 04:26:57.200 Now you're getting chained? 04:26:58.400 --> 04:26:59.440 This is not the same. 04:27:01.760 --> 04:27:03.360 Dangers mid lane. 04:27:03.360 --> 04:27:04.560 Tier three bottom guard. 04:27:04.560 --> 04:27:06.880 Malrin just solo kills Wicked up a top. 04:27:07.680 --> 04:27:08.320 Huh? 04:27:08.320 --> 04:27:11.280 He took 3,300 damage from Coyle, Bagnon, Parasma. 04:27:11.280 --> 04:27:11.680 Okay. 04:27:11.680 --> 04:27:12.160 Yeah. 04:27:12.160 --> 04:27:12.800 Bye bye. 04:27:12.800 --> 04:27:15.840 And now with the chain frost fire bounce again, the frog's in trouble. 04:27:15.840 --> 04:27:22.520 Snaking's getting taken down by the poison something to play time at least a skipper's gonna disengage and die they just in his hands 04:27:22.520 --> 04:27:24.200 He'll come back to life 04:27:24.200 --> 04:27:30.680 Britain's fallen as Farfqas can rally around this give a tiny again all back get ready by pot 04:27:30.680 --> 04:27:37.600 I'm sorry. Fuck. He's so nasty another repinging the SF. They want to go back in when they go left ravage ready 04:27:38.280 --> 04:27:39.800 double ravage 04:27:39.800 --> 04:27:44.280 Huck is BKB'd up, trying to finish off this Baron to top, gets the job done. 04:27:44.280 --> 04:27:45.680 They're just radin' him out. 04:27:45.680 --> 04:27:50.720 Wits placed by T4s, Ember's friends been found, the Ravage for the Blinkie, the Shaddafee, 04:27:50.720 --> 04:27:53.400 this is gonna get found, oh my god! 04:27:53.400 --> 04:27:55.400 Oh! 04:27:55.400 --> 04:27:57.400 Ah, they think it all, it's all over now. 04:27:57.400 --> 04:28:02.400 Tiny is gonna break away with the BKB, gush back onto the Mega Grip's claimed job, 04:28:02.400 --> 04:28:04.400 Falcon's got what they came for. 04:28:04.400 --> 04:28:07.200 Even if they bleed out on the retreat, doesn't matter. 04:28:07.200 --> 04:28:10.280 And Malarine continues to toy with him, another jump from the tiny! 04:28:10.280 --> 04:28:12.520 Finds a slave and help me show him more! 04:28:12.520 --> 04:28:14.720 He's killed off by Frank, sure! 04:28:15.400 --> 04:28:20.600 But has just so much little left of the attack for playtime, while Falken's by back on Tide! 04:28:20.600 --> 04:28:22.440 Go back in again on Darmago! 04:28:22.440 --> 04:28:25.560 Dead for two minutes, Clive now, and GG, cold! 04:28:26.520 --> 04:28:28.200 Playtime gave it their all! 04:28:29.040 --> 04:28:30.840 Very good early game! 04:28:30.840 --> 04:28:36.880 Both Game 1 and here in Game 2, strong sweeping movements, incredible lanes, but Falken's... 04:28:37.200 --> 04:28:39.200 The experience, the discipline. 04:28:39.780 --> 04:28:45.780 They are one of the best late-game team fighting teams of all time when they get to play their structure with especially with these heroes that 04:28:45.780 --> 04:28:53.360 Abuse vision mechanics. We saw this on the old Tundra 2. The first time this core group won that first EI in Singapore with that Tundra lineup 04:28:53.360 --> 04:29:00.040 They abused very similar mechanics vision off of illusions with tiny displaced heroes and you just picked them off one by one again 04:29:00.040 --> 04:29:04.200 It's not a full five on five. You're not getting this chance to just sit there and use your net worth against the errors 04:29:04.200 --> 04:29:09.600 Because you're never at an advantage. It's just guerrilla warfare. You're getting assassinated from punk on the back side 04:29:09.600 --> 04:29:14.040 Tiny's killing somebody else. Someone else is getting an anchor ravage. That's so cool here. Yeah, it's 04:29:14.580 --> 04:29:16.580 miserable to play for these lineups in the late game 04:29:16.780 --> 04:29:22.260 Very few teams and very few lineups can outclass Falcons in this arena when it goes this late in particular 04:29:22.640 --> 04:29:25.440 And we saw why it's really impressive to watch 04:29:26.920 --> 04:29:32.120 Yeah, don't think no respect that. Yeah, I mean incredible. Now playtime for the sick run gets them to EWC 04:29:32.120 --> 04:29:37.120 put on an incredible show, gave us some entertaining data, but not enough in the end to go against Falcons, 04:29:37.120 --> 04:29:41.120 as they'll be the ones to move into that lower bracket semi-final against Aurora. 04:29:42.120 --> 04:29:50.120 No shame in losing this series, and the most important thing indeed was qualifying directly to the eSports World Cup, 04:29:50.120 --> 04:29:55.120 which playtime it did succeed at, but unfortunately their lower bracket run ends here. 04:29:55.120 --> 04:30:01.820 After a cumulative, uh, there was a 90 minutes plus, uh, like, a 68 minute... 04:30:01.820 --> 04:30:03.620 There was 96 and 69. 04:30:03.620 --> 04:30:04.120 Well, okay. 04:30:04.120 --> 04:30:05.320 Very important, you know. 04:30:05.320 --> 04:30:07.320 Double nice. Nice and reverse nice. 04:30:07.320 --> 04:30:10.020 Nice, but also reverse nice because they don't win. 04:30:10.020 --> 04:30:12.820 Unfortunately, Falcons does claim the victory in the end. 04:30:12.820 --> 04:30:15.920 This was, uh, this was a questionable fight. 04:30:15.920 --> 04:30:17.920 This is post-Asia on Frank. 04:30:18.420 --> 04:30:24.920 Yeah, he kind of ran into them without having much support in the backlines. 04:30:24.920 --> 04:30:30.920 Maybe he could have been cut to the tombstone, but I think Falka did it a very good job. 04:30:30.920 --> 04:30:34.920 I also think that this could have been like an easy 30-minute game for them, 04:30:34.920 --> 04:30:39.920 because they had double godlike and they fed away a lot of gold once they died. 04:30:39.920 --> 04:30:43.920 And also there was a fight where a lot of things happened in terms of objectives, 04:30:43.920 --> 04:30:49.920 because Puck, he did steal the Tormentor, and then on the other side, like 20 minutes to 28 minutes in, 04:30:49.920 --> 04:30:53.920 they're killing Shadowfiend, he gets the BKB, he still dies, they take another rune. 04:30:53.920 --> 04:30:58.000 rune. And a lot of these fights, there was like one more extra fight where they're pushing 04:30:58.000 --> 04:31:02.540 the high ground with the ages to toss back into the ravage. It's just too many things 04:31:02.540 --> 04:31:05.340 that Falcons did too good. 04:31:05.340 --> 04:31:10.680 I completely agree. And I think one game can be an isolated incident, but two games back 04:31:10.680 --> 04:31:14.760 to back to me is a trend. And I think playtime, while they've shown a lot of promise, and 04:31:14.760 --> 04:31:17.740 I think they've proved a lot of things to hate where the real deal, when not just some 04:31:17.740 --> 04:31:22.280 bot team you look over, you don't think about, I think that is awesome for them and they've 04:31:22.280 --> 04:31:25.280 really proven a lot but they have a lot of room to grow and I think they're not 04:31:25.280 --> 04:31:28.040 quite there at closing out games because I think they have the killer energy 04:31:28.040 --> 04:31:31.640 they have that spark they have that ability to play like psychos and win a 04:31:31.640 --> 04:31:34.600 game really quickly but they're not very good at finishing it out and so I 04:31:34.600 --> 04:31:37.360 think they've still got stuff to improve on in their game and I think they can 04:31:37.360 --> 04:31:41.040 put the work in for EWC this team unironically is the kind of team that 04:31:41.040 --> 04:31:44.360 could actually win the tournament if they put the work in and they actually 04:31:44.360 --> 04:31:48.080 improved but there's a gap there that they are not ready to win yet. Yeah I 04:31:48.080 --> 04:31:50.640 think as a viewer it's super fun to watch them just because they do break the 04:31:50.640 --> 04:31:53.640 status quo of like what you expect to see in a game. It's like, why is there a 04:31:53.640 --> 04:31:59.160 Largo support diving mid tier one at four minutes and there's an undying five 04:31:59.160 --> 04:32:04.860 rotating to top diving top tower. I don't know. It's just really fun to watch that 04:32:04.860 --> 04:32:09.520 entire game start to finish as to entire series. I would say I do playtime did 04:32:09.520 --> 04:32:13.400 certainly mess up a few times on their way to closing out those games and I 04:32:13.400 --> 04:32:17.520 agree with the trend. But I also think Falcons is just one of those teams that 04:32:17.520 --> 04:32:23.040 They make these like we guys mentioned the tormentor and we mentioned all these like little plays they make 04:32:23.040 --> 04:32:26.540 It's just all those times that they're increasing your ability to throw the game 04:32:26.540 --> 04:32:28.740 Do you know what I mean? I think Falcons is one of the best teams 04:32:28.740 --> 04:32:32.360 They're probably second in my head to a team spirit. I'm making this happen and 04:32:33.800 --> 04:32:36.040 Yeah, I keep wanting to like look up like 04:32:37.600 --> 04:32:39.860 They're looking for a new profile picture or what? 04:32:42.280 --> 04:32:44.280 No, I was really fun series of 04:32:44.280 --> 04:32:46.280 Yeah, that's much better. 04:32:46.280 --> 04:32:53.280 It is indeed the conclusion of this series, which means that I get to get a little bit of a wrap-up with one of the players, Critt. 04:32:53.280 --> 04:32:59.280 That was a lot of Dota that you just played out of two games. How's the stamina feeling? 04:32:59.280 --> 04:33:03.280 No, it's feeling pretty good. I think we're getting used to playing long games. 04:33:03.280 --> 04:33:08.280 I think all the teams are at this point, ready to play 16 minutes plus three games every series. 04:33:08.280 --> 04:33:12.200 No, it's it's it's we're happy that we didn't have to play another one. I think because we have another game later 04:33:12.200 --> 04:33:14.640 So they're happy with the with the two zero 04:33:14.640 --> 04:33:19.980 What do you think is causing this trend because these this dream league has been insanely long games? 04:33:20.520 --> 04:33:24.320 Is it patch oriented is a team preparation oriented? What is it? 04:33:26.200 --> 04:33:31.120 I think a little bit of patch and I think teams are getting a little bit better 04:33:32.760 --> 04:33:34.680 Towards the tail end of the season 04:33:34.680 --> 04:33:38.960 I think just harder to close out games and there's a lot of map to close out 04:33:38.960 --> 04:33:43.700 So I think just naturally the games are gonna get longer and I think that's why the teams that are like 04:33:44.240 --> 04:33:46.240 like traditionally a little bit more 04:33:46.880 --> 04:33:51.440 Patient they're doing better than they were before like Austin's very we're doing pretty poorly and now all of a sudden 04:33:51.440 --> 04:33:55.320 We're doing decently I think because we're some of the most patient teams and yes 04:33:55.320 --> 04:34:00.360 It's just makes the game longer. Yeah, the you two teams are the exact examples that we come up with also 04:34:00.360 --> 04:34:06.400 I had one play that I wanted to specifically point out and get some insight from you from game number one 04:34:06.600 --> 04:34:10.520 the final high ground push you guys glyph here and 04:34:11.240 --> 04:34:17.480 It seemed almost like a miss click glyph and then it led to a whole chain of events, but what was up with this glyph? 04:34:18.920 --> 04:34:23.360 I mean, I'll be honest like I could say that it was like I was trying to bait them to go and blink on high 04:34:23.360 --> 04:34:25.560 I mean stuff, but I just picked the glyph and then that's just 04:34:25.560 --> 04:34:30.280 It's pretty sure it's forward, you know, but like it did work out well for us, 04:34:30.280 --> 04:34:33.800 because it's a plankton high ground, but yeah, now there's no greater scheming, 04:34:33.800 --> 04:34:35.720 it's just a good old misclick. 04:34:35.720 --> 04:34:37.080 You have Glyph on a hotkey? 04:34:38.280 --> 04:34:38.600 Yeah. 04:34:39.320 --> 04:34:41.800 And you're taking responsibility for pressing that hotkey? 04:34:42.520 --> 04:34:46.760 I mean, that one, I mean, that's, you know, I'm old enough to, you know, 04:34:46.760 --> 04:34:49.160 like the fingers are failing a little bit, you know, it can happen. 04:34:49.960 --> 04:34:55.400 Very honorable of you, but it worked out, as you said, for a very successful gambit. 04:34:55.400 --> 04:34:58.200 I also got BSJ standing by with a question for you as well. 04:34:58.200 --> 04:35:04.500 Yeah, sub-crate, the one question I got for you, I'm noticing that most games for you specifically and a lot of other support players, 04:35:04.500 --> 04:35:08.700 I'm seeing like first item blink for staff, like just heavily leaning on the mobility, 04:35:08.700 --> 04:35:11.400 none of like the ether lens and the glimmers and stuff like that. 04:35:11.400 --> 04:35:13.800 Can you give a little insight on like why that's happening right now? 04:35:15.000 --> 04:35:20.400 Uh, yeah, I mean, I think naturally just glimmer and solar got kind of left a lot. 04:35:20.400 --> 04:35:22.400 It just feels bad to buy these items. 04:35:22.400 --> 04:35:29.200 I think you're bigger you better off having heroes that naturally have some sort of save and then buying blink to enable that save 04:35:29.200 --> 04:35:33.160 It's better than having heroes that buy the save if that makes sense 04:35:34.040 --> 04:35:37.040 So yeah, buying blink force. It's like the best you can do in terms of like 04:35:37.720 --> 04:35:44.800 Also the map being picked like it just it just feels good to have and force that without blink is kind of hard to use on your teammates 04:35:45.320 --> 04:35:48.480 Yeah, it's just a natural like combination of items, I think okay, so 04:35:48.480 --> 04:35:52.480 So, what kind of a chicken and egg discussion, which one came first, is it like you felt 04:35:52.480 --> 04:35:56.440 like the blink force to have mobility save is the way to play, so pick heroes that do 04:35:56.440 --> 04:35:59.560 that, or is it these items work well for the heroes that are good? 04:35:59.560 --> 04:36:04.560 No, I think it just comes hand in hand, like people play a lot of dota, you know, like 04:36:04.560 --> 04:36:08.400 you play a lot of pops and slowly you have a feeling and like things will just tell you 04:36:08.400 --> 04:36:12.480 will not exactly know why it's happening, it will just feel like that for you, like 04:36:12.480 --> 04:36:14.600 a natural transition. 04:36:14.600 --> 04:36:18.040 So don't think anything came first, it's just that some heroes feel better because you 04:36:18.040 --> 04:36:22.280 We want to buy these items the same way around, you know, so that's kind of how it goes. 04:36:22.280 --> 04:36:23.280 Awesome, thank you. 04:36:23.280 --> 04:36:27.080 There's a lot of Dota to talk about, but I know that you indeed have another series 04:36:27.080 --> 04:36:31.720 coming up with Aurora, so, Crit, congratulations on the win against Playtime, and looking forward 04:36:31.720 --> 04:36:35.160 to hopefully another match from you in like six hours or so. 04:36:35.160 --> 04:36:37.660 Yeah, hopefully. 04:36:37.660 --> 04:36:41.560 Given the trend, we'll see, but thanks again, and we'll talk to you again soon. 04:36:41.560 --> 04:36:42.560 Bye. 04:36:42.560 --> 04:36:53.460 That is it for Falcons for the next few hours, but it is not it for them today because they will be facing off against Aurora as their lower bracket run continues. 04:36:53.460 --> 04:37:04.260 But that's all for the lower bracket for right now. We need to get back into the upper bracket, our upper bracket final, because we need to figure out one of the grand finalists that will be moving on. 04:37:04.260 --> 04:37:08.700 Will it be ParryVision who have been grinding out group stage? 04:37:08.700 --> 04:37:15.460 They beat Liquid 2-1, they beat Falcons 2-1, or will it be Spirit who cleanly got the 2-0 against Betboom 04:37:15.460 --> 04:37:20.780 and then fought Tooth and Nail against Aurora in their upper bracket semifinal? 04:37:21.300 --> 04:37:25.900 Lacoste, you're gonna be on the next series, so I won't get your prediction, but Quinn, who you got? 04:37:26.100 --> 04:37:27.980 My money's on ParryVision for the whole tournament right now. 04:37:27.980 --> 04:37:28.580 Oh yeah. 04:37:28.580 --> 04:37:32.380 I think to me they're like playtime, if playtime could close the game out. 04:37:32.380 --> 04:37:37.500 I think they're super aggressive. They're really fast. They're super skilled laners and I especially think their supports 04:37:37.500 --> 04:37:41.200 Star standouts for me right now and that like I think a lot of supports are like like the issue 04:37:41.200 --> 04:37:42.700 They're buying the mobility spells they're moving around 04:37:42.880 --> 04:37:47.140 But the the paravisional supports they're doing that and they're clutching and they're winning lanes for sure 04:37:47.140 --> 04:37:50.300 They're cooking so my money's not paravisional in the tournament unless not me 04:37:50.780 --> 04:37:54.620 Just rises to the occasion. I know you're not fine. Oh, not me 04:37:55.260 --> 04:37:56.380 Not me 04:37:56.380 --> 04:38:01.900 I'm talking about not me on spirit who you will be able to a witness in that the next series stick around everyone 04:38:01.900 --> 04:38:04.900 and we'll be back with our upper bracket final. 04:38:26.900 --> 04:38:29.900 No power, no pizza, no packages. 04:38:29.900 --> 04:38:32.900 Thanks, Razor. 04:38:38.900 --> 04:38:42.900 Honestly, the things I do is to keep the law forever dry! 04:38:45.900 --> 04:38:48.900 This is not the main way you will! 04:38:59.900 --> 04:39:06.900 This is the afterlife. 04:39:06.900 --> 04:39:09.900 I'm good with it. 04:39:09.900 --> 04:39:15.900 I think the party is over. 04:39:59.900 --> 04:40:01.900 I 04:41:29.900 --> 04:41:33.900 Oh, yeah, you can't hide it now 04:42:29.900 --> 04:42:33.900 I'll be high enough 04:42:33.900 --> 04:42:37.900 Now that it's taken high enough 04:45:29.900 --> 04:45:55.060 Dream League Season 29 is brought to you by DHL and CHECKZ. 04:45:59.900 --> 04:46:07.900 And now guys, just go watch Greenleague season 29 and it's time to let the Lola bracket rest for a little bit. 04:46:07.900 --> 04:46:14.900 It's time to go over to our upper bracket finals. Two of the top three teams will go head to head 04:46:14.900 --> 04:46:19.900 and to learn a little bit more about them. We're first going to check in, we can see you. 04:46:19.900 --> 04:46:23.900 Thank you very much, Shiva. Yes, I am extremely excited for this series. 04:46:23.900 --> 04:46:26.900 These are arguably the two best teams you've seen so far this tournament 04:46:26.900 --> 04:46:31.080 And they have developed some really cool meta throughout this tournament 04:46:31.080 --> 04:46:36.300 I want to take a little bit of a look at what these two teams are doing what they've done to progress from like the early struggles 04:46:36.300 --> 04:46:40.940 That you've had things that you've ran into in the meta that have been problematic and how they solve those issues 04:46:40.940 --> 04:46:43.540 So let's get straight into it. So for team spirit 04:46:43.780 --> 04:46:48.060 The first thing I wanted to look at is they found a way to play turrets 04:46:48.060 --> 04:46:53.020 And this has been an issue that I think a lot of teams have had where clockwork has been almost permanently banned out 04:46:53.020 --> 04:46:58.620 Which is taken like SF out of the pool. It's made it hard to play draw ranger and a lot of these carries that you want to 04:46:58.620 --> 04:47:00.420 Look for have just become completely unavailable 04:47:00.420 --> 04:47:06.060 I think spirits on the only teams that right now is frequently picking train protector as you can see here picked four times 04:47:06.340 --> 04:47:08.740 every single time paired with a ranged carry and 04:47:09.300 --> 04:47:15.220 This allows them to have a completely like a wider hero pool than most other teams that you play up against even so on the previous series 04:47:15.220 --> 04:47:17.580 Like SF looks really strong right when he gets to play the game 04:47:17.580 --> 04:47:21.220 But he does need some protection last game. It was a Largo this time around 04:47:21.220 --> 04:47:25.560 I think if spirits in the same position tree it is the guy they're gonna look for and it's one of my favorite heroes 04:47:25.560 --> 04:47:27.560 So I definitely wanted to highlight that 04:47:28.780 --> 04:47:33.640 So look out for the tree and I think for party that's something they've got to keep in track keep track of another thing is 04:47:33.720 --> 04:47:37.060 This is one of the few teams that have seen successfully flex Pangolier 04:47:37.180 --> 04:47:42.220 They will play Pangolier on Laurel and collapse and a lot of times when you see these like flexes 04:47:42.220 --> 04:47:47.100 It's like between two players where one guy is definitely more comfortable playing it than the other guy 04:47:47.100 --> 04:47:52.060 But in this case, I feel like either one of them can play the zero to it's like absolute best 04:47:52.380 --> 04:47:54.740 so that's another thing they got to keep in mind and 04:47:55.820 --> 04:47:58.060 On the other side we have nine class 04:47:58.500 --> 04:48:03.180 Who has been like the guy for party this form and I feel like he's the one that's going to define their entire draft 04:48:03.220 --> 04:48:07.780 It's either going to be coddle. It's going to be with it's going to be next or it's going to be house car 04:48:07.780 --> 04:48:09.900 We've seen some games and all of them are banned out 04:48:09.900 --> 04:48:14.900 He even has like a rubik to fall back on I saw him play Phoenix ones and that was horrendous 04:48:14.900 --> 04:48:20.740 I don't want to see that, but I think how they decided to answer these four heroes on Spiritside is going to be the story of this game. 04:48:23.160 --> 04:48:31.140 Very much in saying they're very insightful. Why don't you come down and join us as we continue talking about these two teams who were surprisingly, by the way, 04:48:31.140 --> 04:48:34.600 if not faced each other even the ones in 2026. 04:48:34.600 --> 04:48:36.600 It was the first time of course. Pretty hype. 04:48:36.740 --> 04:48:42.300 Yeah, it's been a while. Last time they met was Dream League season 27. 04:48:42.300 --> 04:48:52.300 Yeah, when they met like three times because of the format and every single time Paravision, they lost, so it doesn't look good, but things have changed in the meantime. 04:48:52.300 --> 04:49:02.300 And I feel like Paravision, I've been very impressed with teams for it and how they managed to get the new player in, how well he's fitting in. 04:49:02.300 --> 04:49:05.300 But I'm also feeling Paravision, they're on top of their game right now. 04:49:05.300 --> 04:49:09.720 Now, both these teams are really good, and also, Aiden, you highlighted the Trient, which 04:49:09.720 --> 04:49:13.520 is played by Rue, and this guy, he used to be a Pulse 4 player, now he's a Pulse 5 player. 04:49:13.520 --> 04:49:17.360 And when you look at Trient overall, he's giving me a little bit of, like, Miposhka 04:49:17.360 --> 04:49:20.240 vibes, which is very high praise to him, because his Trient is very good. 04:49:20.240 --> 04:49:24.640 Miposhka used to play a legendary Trient in the last iteration of the Russell with Panto. 04:49:24.640 --> 04:49:28.440 They didn't really have that many performances where the five felt like that, so I'm very 04:49:28.440 --> 04:49:31.960 impressed with, you know, his gameplay, being able to swap roles and make it happen that 04:49:31.960 --> 04:49:32.960 quickly. 04:49:32.960 --> 04:49:36.300 Both these teams looking amazing, upper bracket finals, it's going to be a sigmat. 04:49:36.300 --> 04:49:39.640 But are they sounding amazing and it's the question that we're going to have answered 04:49:39.640 --> 04:49:46.080 as we're going to learn a little bit more from the teams themselves. 04:49:46.080 --> 04:49:49.480 Every time when we play, nobody underestimates us now. 04:49:49.480 --> 04:49:54.320 Last year I sometimes didn't watch how do we play map, but now every time my class plays 04:49:54.320 --> 04:49:58.760 some heroes, everyone tries to copy and give these guys places, we should try as well. 04:49:58.760 --> 04:50:03.480 If we speak about why our team is unique, I would say we have one of the best mechanical 04:50:03.480 --> 04:50:08.640 base players, like satanic9class, and no one is still very still mechanically. 04:50:08.640 --> 04:50:13.240 I just like to perform well at tournaments as a team. 04:50:13.240 --> 04:50:20.320 It feels good to play as full roster, play now a lot of screens and be trying to improve 04:50:20.320 --> 04:50:21.320 our game. 04:50:28.760 --> 04:50:34.760 But he's taken so much damage, he'll try and reflect on the fountain, and he will make it back to the fountain in time, but Skewer is gone. 04:50:34.760 --> 04:50:39.760 Not by back on hand, the Doom will at least break down the tiny, but Static will come and burn it. 04:50:39.760 --> 04:50:42.760 But the Dampers come to grave, and you tore it with a ball, and might fall the damage. 04:50:42.760 --> 04:50:47.760 When Rangers of Life just back up and gets the fountain, the Alchemist goes on a Phoenix, kills the Skewery. 04:50:47.760 --> 04:50:52.760 And in the midst of this, W is trying to go on before the doorbreaker getting destroyed. 04:50:52.760 --> 04:50:57.760 Don't the Dampers of Yitora look good, but he's fighting again, and he comes to the primal base. 04:50:57.760 --> 04:51:02.760 Eyes to good! A double-collapse! And GG call! 04:51:02.760 --> 04:51:05.760 Thank you guys for cheering for us. It's very important that you're supporting us. 04:51:05.760 --> 04:51:07.760 We are trying our best. We never give up. 04:51:07.760 --> 04:51:11.760 Thank you for supporting us. Hope you'll enjoy this tournament. 04:51:14.760 --> 04:51:19.760 How can you guys not enjoy this Dream League with the crazy type of games we've had? 04:51:19.760 --> 04:51:23.760 I know the previous series was a 2-0, but still lives up to the expectation, 04:51:23.760 --> 04:51:25.760 and it leads me to address the elephant in the room. 04:51:25.760 --> 04:51:33.120 the room. This is the dream league with the most 60 plus minute game, 21st 60 plus minute game. 04:51:33.120 --> 04:51:38.480 That's crazy. That's crazy. But I have to address this too, because Insania, 04:51:38.480 --> 04:51:44.640 Paravision is considered to be the fastest team. They're fast. They're fast. I think when they 04:51:44.640 --> 04:51:48.400 manage to get their things going, like I said, the four is their centerpiece, right? And when the 04:51:48.400 --> 04:51:52.480 four is the guy that is like the centerpiece of your team, it's going to be faster. It's going to 04:51:52.480 --> 04:52:16.480 He's gonna be more aggressive, he's gonna be doing it in different ways, either he's like some next roaming around, it's the Wisp getting really fat, we haven't seen the Wisp at all, I would love to, but I don't think we're going to, or the Huskar farming jungle, like he, the four heroes he plays are so different from each other, and they're so defining, but he definitely sets the pace, that's the guy to look out for, and for Spirit it's obviously like Gatoran collapse right now, so it's a bit more of like the late game. 04:52:16.480 --> 04:52:21.760 The late game clutch. The other thing that I like about party as well is I think maybe now is where you can really see like the 04:52:21.760 --> 04:52:27.800 Puppy Flare of the team. I think they're very open in terms of what they pick. They had like a mid-dp. Didn't work out that well 04:52:27.800 --> 04:52:33.000 But they still did it. They had a carry Viper against a Timbersaw Witch. It's a pretty interesting answer. Also didn't work out 04:52:33.000 --> 04:52:37.680 But overall the thing is they play very fast and I think they're very open to trying things out 04:52:37.680 --> 04:52:42.200 Especially in like a game one of a B03. So not just do they have like very specific heroes 04:52:42.200 --> 04:52:47.540 But I think they've gotten out of this very like limited style. That's what they talk about with like a steamy 04:52:47.540 --> 04:52:51.200 Like you need to play the ABC at six minutes. There's a seven minute this I think right now 04:52:51.200 --> 04:52:57.960 They're very like open and free in terms of how they play. I think we were seeing good back with the old paravision 04:52:57.960 --> 04:53:05.360 This is something they also talked about in their interviews about like making one relatively big mistake between 15 and 20 25 minutes 04:53:05.480 --> 04:53:09.900 We're really not seeing that anymore. It might be related to what you just said 04:53:09.900 --> 04:53:14.100 back to you, yeah back to you, yeah good. 04:53:14.100 --> 04:53:19.300 No I mean Poppy has very very strong ideas and I also know that he is very, he loves 04:53:19.300 --> 04:53:22.940 talking about carries and carry item builds like back in Dota 1 like this guy had the 04:53:22.940 --> 04:53:26.260 perfect knowledge of like bro you should have bought these items on this hero this game 04:53:26.260 --> 04:53:30.060 is a good naga siren game like do this and it's also he gives you the freedom to mess 04:53:30.060 --> 04:53:34.060 up but when you've overstepped he really lets you know like you're not gonna make that 04:53:34.060 --> 04:53:37.940 mistake again and then you better you know you better make it happen next time. 04:53:37.940 --> 04:53:40.820 It seems to work very well with the team he has as well. 04:53:40.820 --> 04:53:43.020 It seems to, because all of the players, 04:53:43.020 --> 04:53:44.300 as we hear in the call us talk about it, 04:53:44.300 --> 04:53:45.460 very mechanically skilled, 04:53:45.460 --> 04:53:47.740 and that means you can just put them at any hero 04:53:47.740 --> 04:53:50.180 you think will fit and it will play itself out. 04:53:50.180 --> 04:53:51.380 It's very important, I think, for a coach 04:53:51.380 --> 04:53:55.620 to have access to players that can just play whatever he says 04:53:55.620 --> 04:53:56.940 should be played. 04:53:56.940 --> 04:53:58.140 Going into this series, 04:53:58.140 --> 04:53:59.860 I do wanna know if you guys have favorites going in 04:53:59.860 --> 04:54:02.940 because a lot of people in the, 04:54:02.940 --> 04:54:04.340 you know, I've heard people saying the spirit 04:54:04.340 --> 04:54:06.700 only got to this point because they were able to clutch it out 04:54:06.700 --> 04:54:08.000 in spirit way, to be fair. 04:54:08.000 --> 04:54:09.500 When do they not clutch it out? 04:54:09.500 --> 04:54:12.380 And then, sure, but do you then also agree 04:54:12.380 --> 04:54:14.740 the Paravision is at this point, by far, 04:54:14.740 --> 04:54:16.940 the strongest team at the tournament 04:54:16.940 --> 04:54:18.580 because I've heard that as well. 04:54:18.580 --> 04:54:20.980 Slightly, and I think I put them in my predictions as well, 04:54:20.980 --> 04:54:22.620 but it's spirit versus power. 04:54:22.620 --> 04:54:23.660 You're in the upper bracket. 04:54:23.660 --> 04:54:25.140 You only make it here if you're really good 04:54:25.140 --> 04:54:27.780 and you can win games where you're maybe even not favorite. 04:54:27.780 --> 04:54:30.660 In my mind, this game is just a toss-up. 04:54:30.660 --> 04:54:32.620 I think it depends on the draft 04:54:32.620 --> 04:54:34.420 and how they managed to answer different problems 04:54:34.420 --> 04:54:35.860 that they're going to be presented with. 04:54:35.860 --> 04:54:39.320 Like these first fans, I think are almost the most interesting part of this draft. 04:54:39.320 --> 04:54:42.460 Because I think both these teams have good ideas about how to answer heroes. 04:54:42.460 --> 04:54:44.360 But what are you gonna decide to play against? 04:54:44.360 --> 04:54:46.360 What are you gonna lift through is gonna be the big question mark. 04:54:46.860 --> 04:54:49.160 I also think, probably the team that plays really fast, 04:54:49.360 --> 04:54:52.660 and they play really fast around 9 class, like, doing these random things around the map. 04:54:52.860 --> 04:54:56.260 And I think Spirit is the best team at like dangling a hero in front of you. 04:54:56.260 --> 04:54:57.860 They'll be like, here, look, it's a free collapse. 04:54:57.860 --> 04:54:59.660 You can have it. Here, Kazoo, take the collapse. 04:54:59.960 --> 04:55:02.160 Take it. And then he's slappy on the hand, you know? 04:55:02.160 --> 04:55:03.460 You don't let you do it for free. 04:55:03.460 --> 04:55:09.180 Yeah, I want to see if Timbersaw is going to be addressed because this is the hero that 04:55:09.180 --> 04:55:13.660 Team Spirit didn't play yet, and I think this is at least for me. 04:55:13.660 --> 04:55:17.820 It does look like the best off-laner in terms of what the hero does. 04:55:17.820 --> 04:55:20.420 There's an envelope on that one. 04:55:20.420 --> 04:55:21.420 Someone go get it. 04:55:21.420 --> 04:55:22.920 I picked it up yesterday. 04:55:22.920 --> 04:55:23.920 Who's next? 04:55:23.920 --> 04:55:24.920 Try and catch it. 04:55:24.920 --> 04:55:25.920 Who's next? 04:55:25.920 --> 04:55:26.920 Catch it, Lacoste. 04:55:26.920 --> 04:55:27.920 Kill it. 04:55:27.920 --> 04:55:28.920 Jump on it. 04:55:28.920 --> 04:55:33.920 That was perfect, Henry. 04:55:33.920 --> 04:55:36.920 What does it say? 04:55:36.920 --> 04:55:38.920 Same thing as it did say earlier today. 04:55:38.920 --> 04:55:40.920 Can you read it out loud? 04:55:40.920 --> 04:55:42.920 That could write your cake pops! 04:55:42.920 --> 04:55:43.920 Go ahead. 04:55:43.920 --> 04:55:44.920 Alright, let's go. 04:55:44.920 --> 04:55:48.920 We have to melt some chocolate though, because this is no longer molten. 04:55:48.920 --> 04:55:49.920 Okay. 04:55:49.920 --> 04:55:54.920 The reason why I mentioned Sabersaw is because I like noticed a lot. 04:55:54.920 --> 04:55:59.840 noticed a lot. I feel like he's super underrated as a player. This is the guy that got kicked 04:55:59.840 --> 04:56:06.440 from his previous team. I think he's very young. His ideas are very good. He clutches. 04:56:06.440 --> 04:56:11.980 I haven't really seen him choke in these matches. It seems like he has, like, for a 04:56:11.980 --> 04:56:16.840 relatively young age, good amount of experience. And this is the type of a guy that you want 04:56:16.840 --> 04:56:17.840 to have on the team. 04:56:17.840 --> 04:56:21.760 Now, this guy's good. He's also very high rank. I think right now he's either rank 10 04:56:21.760 --> 04:56:26.320 ranked 9 and he like you said he looks very good in a lot of these matches you can leave him alone 04:56:26.320 --> 04:56:29.920 he's you know he's gonna play chill, Dukala said the same, it's not that type of offlaner, it's like 04:56:29.920 --> 04:56:34.160 oh you leave him alone you need to come to my lane like he will call you when you need to be there 04:56:34.160 --> 04:56:39.200 and he will give you the freedom when you can make moves somewhere else so parry vision play 04:56:39.200 --> 04:56:43.680 one of the best casuses in the world like satanic is very good at this hero but there are a lot of 04:56:43.680 --> 04:56:48.080 answers in my mind to this hero you know they did take out the axe which is cool doom to me is one 04:56:48.080 --> 04:56:52.240 one of the other ones. We've seen Timber who you also mentioned is an insane hero 04:56:52.240 --> 04:56:56.320 especially in the last couple of days. So I hope that they look at those. 04:56:56.320 --> 04:57:01.320 I mean Axel's taken out right? I think Parma is also pretty decent, Sardar is also pretty 04:57:01.320 --> 04:57:05.760 decent. So they probably definitely planned for this like Kesvig right? What I find interesting 04:57:05.760 --> 04:57:11.920 is that both Huskar and Nyx are in the pool. So I think Parma are essentially saying like 04:57:11.920 --> 04:57:15.240 we're getting one of them anyway so we don't need to pick it here. We decided to value 04:57:15.240 --> 04:57:18.560 because higher and it shows like really high-level drafting right they're not 04:57:18.560 --> 04:57:21.720 just gonna jump on the opportunity to pick one of these heroes that might get 04:57:21.720 --> 04:57:26.000 banned out we feel comfortable in this position snapfire also is a Laurel like 04:57:26.000 --> 04:57:30.480 old-school Laurel signature even before he joined spirit this was his guy he 04:57:30.480 --> 04:57:34.740 played Windranger and he played snapfire mid they also have the opportunity of 04:57:34.740 --> 04:57:38.400 flexing snapfire off lane this is the other hero alongside pango where it's 04:57:38.400 --> 04:57:42.120 like genuinely like I think arguably the only team that can do it to the 04:57:42.120 --> 04:57:44.960 effectiveness that they do collapse like really coax when you play snap 04:57:44.960 --> 04:57:50.360 So it's a cool opener both teams have a lot of options part is how to take out the tree and and the timber 04:57:50.760 --> 04:57:54.720 Very clutch bands. I think I think both these two heroes are heroes that they would have considered on spirit 04:57:55.360 --> 04:58:01.120 I wonder if there's also I believe that rule has played snap also as a plus five once in this tournament 04:58:01.120 --> 04:58:03.120 So maybe they have even that flex open 04:58:03.120 --> 04:58:03.320 That's true 04:58:03.320 --> 04:58:08.680 Or like perhaps I guess also like snap offline should be fine against Kez you can semi play on range 04:58:08.680 --> 04:58:11.480 I would say he's a melee guy he will walk in you can just blast them all the time 04:58:11.480 --> 04:58:15.660 So I I definitely really like you know the snap opener and you talk about it before too 04:58:15.660 --> 04:58:20.740 You know it is like a spirit thing where obviously they had a lot of prep if you were to first pick Oscar 04:58:20.740 --> 04:58:21.700 You know they had an answer 04:58:21.700 --> 04:58:27.040 So if your party sit back relax take the other here see for comfort with maybe you'll still find an opening for the 04:58:27.040 --> 04:58:29.460 Husker later where you feel like well now they can't counter it anymore 04:58:29.460 --> 04:58:34.160 Yeah, they're gonna 18 or they've opened up other things. Looks good. It definitely looks good 04:58:34.160 --> 04:58:39.720 This is a flex that they did whenever playing against Aurora where they kind of had the losing matchup 04:58:39.720 --> 04:58:43.920 We would like with this conca that come on and was picked for the offlane 04:58:43.920 --> 04:58:47.140 But they did like gotcha and this type of a 04:58:47.600 --> 04:58:52.920 Swaparoo in the end and it looked good like with the kaya yasha Facebook spell bling dagger shard 04:58:52.920 --> 04:58:59.100 You're very mobile and also I like snapfire with something that can't play off with like one cheap spell 04:58:59.100 --> 04:59:02.400 But we're talking about you know in this one it was conca 04:59:02.400 --> 04:59:05.760 So with the X mark and tutorial combo you can kill pretty much any hero on the map 04:59:05.760 --> 04:59:11.680 It's a hero like we've not, we've seen it with like mixed success, but I think when 04:59:11.680 --> 04:59:14.380 the good players play it, it looks pretty good. 04:59:14.380 --> 04:59:17.760 So obviously like you also have these teams like when you get to the stage, they're not 04:59:17.760 --> 04:59:22.200 just picking heroes like for what they are, but how they combine with like others. 04:59:22.200 --> 04:59:23.200 Yeah. 04:59:23.200 --> 04:59:26.760 Dota especially at this level is just about, it's a team game, sure you put in your individual 04:59:26.760 --> 04:59:32.200 stuff but heroes come together, timings, items, whatever it is and just draft in terms of 04:59:32.200 --> 04:59:33.760 opening, it looks super solid. 04:59:33.760 --> 04:59:39.280 I think also, especially in this current meta, it's felt like building your own draft and making sure it's robust 04:59:39.280 --> 04:59:42.160 and it can play throughout all stages of the game has been important. 04:59:42.160 --> 04:59:42.660 Yeah. 04:59:42.660 --> 04:59:47.780 Because you don't want to end up in a position where like, you're playing super far ahead, you can't close the game out 04:59:47.780 --> 04:59:49.360 because games are going late. 04:59:49.360 --> 04:59:51.660 And I think it is something that you have to take into consideration. 04:59:51.660 --> 04:59:55.860 For whatever reason, the meta doesn't allow you to end the games as fast as you'd like to, 04:59:55.860 --> 04:59:57.860 and you have to be able to play these dragged out games. 04:59:57.860 --> 05:00:02.260 And usually when the meta is like that, it's less about exclusive counterpicking 05:00:02.260 --> 05:00:06.540 and also very important to have like heroes that come together and I see you can teamfight at all stages of the game. 05:00:08.340 --> 05:00:15.040 So yeah, I think we've seen some teams kind of fall into a trap where it does look like they have an idea. 05:00:15.040 --> 05:00:21.640 Two, three picks in and then they try to go for more counter picks and then you end up with the game, 05:00:21.640 --> 05:00:27.000 like with the draft that doesn't have much synergy together, so they maybe less experienced teams. 05:00:27.000 --> 05:00:32.240 I don't think we're going to be seeing this happen here, but a big fan of these supports on side of Paravision 05:00:32.240 --> 05:00:35.760 pretty much unlimited damage. You can always make rotations. 05:00:35.760 --> 05:00:39.040 I've been very impressed by Lich. Like, we've seen a lot of 60-plus minute games. 05:00:39.040 --> 05:00:44.120 This is the hero that solo kills any core with the plus one, with the Blink Dagger. 05:00:44.120 --> 05:00:47.880 People also realize that it's very good. Like, you just pick up Blink Dagger, 05:00:47.880 --> 05:00:52.360 4-staff, Crenches talked about it. It makes you more maneuverable in the fights with the plus one. 05:00:52.360 --> 05:00:55.840 You can always grab a kill, especially if there's nothing to save it. 05:00:55.840 --> 05:00:59.040 It's also like, even in some of the games where the Lich shield isn't that good, 05:00:59.040 --> 05:01:01.360 like, people still pick it into those heroes. 05:01:01.360 --> 05:01:02.760 It's like, it's Hootwing's snap. 05:01:02.760 --> 05:01:04.600 I would consider snap to be pretty good against the hero, 05:01:04.600 --> 05:01:07.320 but like you said, Lich gives you so many other things too. 05:01:07.320 --> 05:01:08.680 He's a great laner. 05:01:08.680 --> 05:01:10.240 He has very good like moveability too. 05:01:10.240 --> 05:01:11.440 Like once you win your lane, 05:01:11.440 --> 05:01:13.040 you have more freedom to like walk around. 05:01:13.040 --> 05:01:16.880 And Kaz Lich is definitely a very, very strong laner. 05:01:16.880 --> 05:01:17.880 Where's Grimstroke? 05:01:17.880 --> 05:01:21.520 Like I know that we have seen this hero during the Laki 05:01:21.520 --> 05:01:23.280 a lot at the start of the tournament. 05:01:23.280 --> 05:01:24.880 I don't know how you feel about this. 05:01:24.880 --> 05:01:26.400 Both these teams played it. 05:01:26.400 --> 05:01:28.080 I was going to the other door of the street, 05:01:28.080 --> 05:01:29.480 they both played it. 05:01:29.480 --> 05:01:32.160 But to me, Grimstroke is like a very conditional hero. 05:01:32.160 --> 05:01:35.240 It requires a lot of things to like go right for you to have high impact. 05:01:35.740 --> 05:01:40.320 And usually, heroes that have more like, no matter what happens, 05:01:40.320 --> 05:01:43.600 we will have the same degree of impact, tend to be higher value 05:01:43.600 --> 05:01:46.240 because they're more consistent and they're easier to make work. 05:01:46.400 --> 05:01:49.840 Like Hoodwing, for example, I think isn't necessarily the best four in the game, 05:01:50.040 --> 05:01:52.560 but you will always get a very consistent impact out of it. 05:01:52.560 --> 05:01:54.560 Like he doesn't peek as high as maybe Rubik does, 05:01:54.920 --> 05:01:56.920 but you will always get a performance out of it. 05:01:57.080 --> 05:01:58.760 And that's a nice building block to build around. 05:01:58.760 --> 05:02:03.460 And Grimstroke, the tricky thing with him is he's a support hero, so you want to pick him kind of early, 05:02:03.460 --> 05:02:07.160 but he doesn't actually give you that building block that you can build off of. 05:02:07.160 --> 05:02:11.560 It's definitely here that we could see in this series, like you said, because both these teams, they do play it, 05:02:11.560 --> 05:02:16.960 and they're probably also one of the smarter ones when it comes to it, with like, you know, Alk, Grim, Void, Grim, 05:02:16.960 --> 05:02:18.760 you go around, you help the guy go in. 05:02:18.760 --> 05:02:23.760 So, to continue with the draft, I was looking at Pari, like when you play against Doom, 05:02:23.760 --> 05:02:28.160 having heroes that kill Roche, or like getting Aegis is like one of the biggest counters to Doom. 05:02:28.160 --> 05:02:35.900 I was thinking they could maybe look at a hero like a Sniper on 18, perhaps they still could later if that were to be opened, 05:02:35.900 --> 05:02:40.580 because a Sniper has to be mid, I assume, from where could the off-laner with the Perigoo could go. 05:02:40.580 --> 05:02:42.580 And Gatoro could play Doom, but if I'm like, yeah. 05:02:42.580 --> 05:02:50.580 Yes, like there's some swap-arounds, but having a mid-hero that either eliminates the Sniper being mid or helps you take ages is like a hero that I'm looking at. 05:02:50.580 --> 05:02:54.580 So I'm not looking at like a specific hero, but like this type of hero. 05:02:54.580 --> 05:02:59.220 Actually interestingly it's the opposite of what you're suggesting, but I saw early on in this tournament 05:02:59.220 --> 05:03:01.180 I think it was party playing pet boomie done 05:03:01.180 --> 05:03:05.480 Yeah, snapfire was like the hero of the series and they answered it with zoos 05:03:05.480 --> 05:03:09.960 Yeah, and it looked really effective and it's not a hero we see frequently so be kind of excited to see it 05:03:10.420 --> 05:03:13.540 I'm sure no one is aware of it, and it's something that he's considering. Yeah 05:03:14.540 --> 05:03:19.260 Interesting they found a house car. Okay. This means that they genuinely think this doom could be safe lane still 05:03:19.260 --> 05:03:22.600 Great, and MapleSkirt could come out. 05:03:22.600 --> 05:03:26.060 I mean Doom from the safe lane, it did look good. 05:03:26.060 --> 05:03:31.620 You're basically becoming a menace, you are scaling super hard and carry to carry matchup. 05:03:31.620 --> 05:03:35.340 Pretty much always going to be in your favor because you have that they're buying Lincoln 05:03:35.340 --> 05:03:40.060 Spheres but you always have the AoE Doom which is like with Shiva's Guard now with the bigger 05:03:40.060 --> 05:03:41.700 AoE Doom on top of that. 05:03:41.700 --> 05:03:46.740 We saw a lot of 60 minute games again, so you get the DeSoon blood right as well. 05:03:46.740 --> 05:03:51.940 It's just too many things that this hero does, percentage based damage and it does feel like 05:03:51.940 --> 05:03:56.260 the strength carries have slightly an upper hand in some of these situations, being super 05:03:56.260 --> 05:04:00.900 tanky, tiny having 5000 HP compared to kids who is relatively squishy as a hero. 05:04:00.900 --> 05:04:02.740 I wonder what they're looking at. 05:04:02.740 --> 05:04:08.420 I'm trying to read into if the bands are, for what parry are picking next. 05:04:08.420 --> 05:04:10.420 I could see Puck maybe. 05:04:10.420 --> 05:04:16.220 They don't really have that many, the direct lockdown for Puck isn't really there. 05:04:16.220 --> 05:04:19.060 And I think Klunk has got an annoying lane, and House of Spirits as well. 05:04:19.060 --> 05:04:21.060 Okay, they ended up banning it, yeah. 05:04:21.060 --> 05:04:24.060 It's also nice with Dawn, it would be nice if you have one of these heroes. 05:04:24.060 --> 05:04:26.060 Oh, interesting, okay. 05:04:26.060 --> 05:04:30.260 So, against Snapfire mid, you have to have a register, right? 05:04:30.260 --> 05:04:33.260 You can't play any of the spirits, it's just too tough. 05:04:33.260 --> 05:04:37.060 And this way you assure yourself that even if it's not this mid, 05:04:37.060 --> 05:04:39.060 that you can at least like have a hero that will manage. 05:04:39.060 --> 05:04:42.060 They have a lot of setup, and they have a lot of global setups too. 05:04:42.060 --> 05:04:44.560 They have a lot of buffs that they can throw onto these kids. 05:04:44.560 --> 05:04:50.360 There's probably going to be like one support item and maybe like they talked about the four staffs 05:04:50.360 --> 05:04:55.000 But maybe in this one you want to have that extra bit of a damage similar to Dragonite to Tiny 05:04:55.000 --> 05:04:58.400 You might want to pick up the Solar Crest and then you have a Lackardy on top of that 05:04:58.400 --> 05:05:02.100 Plus you have the global present that you talked about plus the extra bit of a heal 05:05:02.100 --> 05:05:07.760 Not so much effective against Doom but against everything rest. It does feel fine and I saw BZM play this matchup 05:05:07.760 --> 05:05:12.100 I don't know if he overperformed because I before that I assumed that snap still kind of beats in Voker 05:05:12.100 --> 05:05:15.400 Like you can just jump in, you can kill his force if you do end up in the mid lane. 05:05:15.400 --> 05:05:19.600 But he went even or even slightly beat the snapfire as the X-word invoker. 05:05:19.600 --> 05:05:21.600 So they should be pretty happy with the snapfire. 05:05:22.100 --> 05:05:26.100 So the only thing that I think is like a little bit out of the norm for Parry, 05:05:26.100 --> 05:05:28.600 and I think this is because Spirit presented them with a new problem. 05:05:28.600 --> 05:05:32.600 They presented snapfire, which is not something that they've been first picking that much. 05:05:32.600 --> 05:05:35.600 So Parry couldn't do their thing of like knowing what you're going to pick, 05:05:35.600 --> 05:05:39.100 pre-preparing a draft, and coming into the series and beating you. 05:05:39.100 --> 05:05:41.600 Which instead 9 classes ended up on the line. 05:05:41.600 --> 05:05:43.600 And it is like 05:05:43.800 --> 05:05:48.000 Nix-ish, but it's not quite Nix-ish, right? Like he has the same kind of stun 05:05:48.000 --> 05:05:49.600 He's probably gonna try to play it in a similar manner 05:05:49.600 --> 05:05:54.120 And I think he won't be as game-defining as he's been in a lot of their other series 05:05:54.120 --> 05:05:57.800 But he's been really really important to their victories. So it's gonna be interesting to see how 05:05:58.560 --> 05:06:03.400 Like this, I'll probably can play this draft because I think this isn't like their most comfortable draft 05:06:04.080 --> 05:06:08.320 Even though they can't pull it off. Yeah. Now, I think they've like they've played similar stuff 05:06:08.320 --> 05:06:13.220 I agree with you. It's like slightly different I think overall the one thing I'm looking at now. This is a 05:06:13.780 --> 05:06:20.400 We've seen a lot of 24 picks from team spirit. Like, you know when your tour gets us last big this void pick is very very solid 05:06:20.400 --> 05:06:26.320 It's one of my favorite answers to dawn even just if you take away his laning or chrono time donation in this game is 05:06:26.680 --> 05:06:30.600 Absolutely, it's everything yes and invoker absolutely hate this 05:06:30.840 --> 05:06:35.080 So if they have like stable lanes and overall I really really like their mid game 05:06:35.080 --> 05:06:38.080 Also, if you're mid-snap, you love this type of lockdown. 05:06:38.080 --> 05:06:42.080 And you have the late game, I think parry day need to do some cooking here in this early game. 05:06:42.080 --> 05:06:44.080 They do. It's also Yattaro, faceless void. 05:06:44.080 --> 05:06:50.080 Like when we talk about the best faceless voids, he's gonna come up probably first because of how well he plays it. 05:06:50.080 --> 05:06:54.080 Want to see what the build is gonna be because there are like three different builds that you can go with the faceless void. 05:06:54.080 --> 05:07:00.080 You can go for Helmut the Dominer, you can go for Mask of Madness Milner, or you can go Battle 3 plus the Aghanim Scepter. 05:07:00.080 --> 05:07:02.080 But it looks like a really good place to play the game. 05:07:02.080 --> 05:07:06.560 In the lane, he might not be able to get as much, because there's a lot of lockdown, 05:07:06.560 --> 05:07:10.720 there's a double lockdown plus the hex as well, so he could not maybe, 05:07:11.360 --> 05:07:13.920 not might be able to time walk the damage off in the lane. 05:07:15.920 --> 05:07:17.280 Did you find any final words on this draft? 05:07:17.920 --> 05:07:21.200 I think it, I mean, that's Void, it's gonna be down to Void, right? 05:07:21.200 --> 05:07:24.000 If he can get flat, if he can get farmed, I think he carries this game. 05:07:24.000 --> 05:07:25.200 It's like a technique time bomb. 05:07:25.200 --> 05:07:31.200 Okay, we're gonna find the answer soon as we are ready for game number one with Odypixlin. 05:08:25.200 --> 05:08:42.240 Here we go ladies and gentlemen, time to get into the action between Paravision and Team 05:08:42.240 --> 05:08:43.240 Perrin. 05:08:43.240 --> 05:08:47.240 And both these jobs ending with some plushy pics. 05:08:47.240 --> 05:08:53.040 We're getting a Torah face mispoid coming out in response to, you know, some heroes that 05:08:53.040 --> 05:08:57.280 I'm going to be too happy about that, because obviously on the side parry vision, there's 05:08:57.280 --> 05:08:58.280 no one in both. 05:08:58.280 --> 05:09:03.120 Also, the potential to be flashed, but time dilation, give me a bad time. 05:09:03.120 --> 05:09:06.600 This could be one of the most brutal time dilation games I've ever seen. 05:09:06.600 --> 05:09:08.920 There's like 50 abilities between just two heroes. 05:09:08.920 --> 05:09:12.760 Dawnbreaker also, this character does not like to play too much versus that void in the laning 05:09:12.760 --> 05:09:13.760 phase too. 05:09:13.760 --> 05:09:17.600 It does feel like an excellent pick, however, I do like what they cleaned up at the end of 05:09:17.600 --> 05:09:18.600 the panel there. 05:09:18.600 --> 05:09:21.720 There's a lot of disable, and there's silence as well that comes in from the Kaz and perhaps 05:09:21.720 --> 05:09:22.720 itemization. 05:09:22.720 --> 05:09:24.560 and dons do Orcans as well. 05:09:24.560 --> 05:09:27.200 So for Yatoro, if he does have a successful lint, 05:09:27.200 --> 05:09:28.480 if they have a successful mid game, 05:09:28.480 --> 05:09:30.880 you can see this hero thriving toward that later stages. 05:09:30.880 --> 05:09:32.800 But there can be instances where he just gets chain stun 05:09:32.800 --> 05:09:34.200 and killed. 05:09:34.200 --> 05:09:35.360 Especially early on in Laurel, 05:09:35.360 --> 05:09:37.120 let's see how he does with the snapfire mid. 05:09:37.120 --> 05:09:38.680 They were talking about that Invoker matchup, 05:09:38.680 --> 05:09:40.040 BCM did excellent on it. 05:09:40.040 --> 05:09:41.520 Oh, look at this. 05:09:41.520 --> 05:09:42.360 First look at that one. 05:09:42.360 --> 05:09:44.840 First bloodlots in trouble. 05:09:44.840 --> 05:09:46.800 He should be going down here. 05:09:46.800 --> 05:09:48.680 Fairyfire will not save him. 05:09:48.680 --> 05:09:50.160 That's first blood for the carry. 05:09:50.160 --> 05:09:52.160 Saitanic, he'll take that. 05:09:52.160 --> 05:10:01.160 No one even denies away the bounty rune. It does mean that they're probably going to exact all the bounty runes for that because of the positioning, so 3, 4 of the status parent, and the one that was denied from the invoker. 05:10:01.160 --> 05:10:05.160 Taurus? I mean, can 9 class kind of stalk Yotara for a little bit and try and stun him whilst he TP's? 05:10:05.160 --> 05:10:09.160 Yeah, probably. Could be pretty annoying. Not let him get to the laning phase. 05:10:09.160 --> 05:10:12.160 He's going to have another time wall, so yeah, it's too far away. 05:10:12.160 --> 05:10:15.160 I'm going to create the distance and actually take the safer route through the twin gate. 05:10:15.160 --> 05:10:15.660 TwinGate! 05:10:15.660 --> 05:10:21.200 I'm seeing more and more of these lions do this build, the item build in particular, starting with multiple mangoes. 05:10:21.200 --> 05:10:26.060 Which means you're probably gonna skill Hex in the lane, which means you're probably gonna be going for those early kills. 05:10:26.060 --> 05:10:29.060 Which is what we expect to see from a Dawnbreaker's lane as well. 05:10:30.560 --> 05:10:33.760 I'm super excited. We haven't gotten to cover... I don't think we've done any Spirit Gain yet. 05:10:33.760 --> 05:10:34.660 We've done casted, right? 05:10:34.660 --> 05:10:36.560 No, I don't think we have casted any Spirit. 05:10:36.560 --> 05:10:37.560 I don't think we've casted any Spirit Gain yet. 05:10:37.560 --> 05:10:38.260 Oh, I'll see if you... 05:10:39.360 --> 05:10:41.660 Gary and Avery definitely casted it. 05:10:41.660 --> 05:10:43.960 But, yeah, looking forward to seeing them. 05:10:43.960 --> 05:10:46.560 Yep, looking forward to see what they can do with this draft in particular. 05:10:46.560 --> 05:10:49.760 Could be a little bit greedy, could have some slow instances in the game 05:10:49.760 --> 05:10:51.760 because they do have a void and a doom. 05:10:51.760 --> 05:10:55.660 But if the snap far can be up to a good start, they have things to play around, very strong here. 05:10:55.660 --> 05:10:59.460 And we have to talk about, you know, we didn't get to see so much of him, us, but not me, right? 05:10:59.460 --> 05:11:02.760 This guy has been super clutched for the team, he's playing his tusk. 05:11:02.760 --> 05:11:07.160 Some pretty good moves he can do, in terms of saving and fighting for his team. 05:11:07.160 --> 05:11:10.660 It's gonna be on him to sort of bail, you saw her out of those situations 05:11:10.660 --> 05:11:17.740 where he is getting caught by the the chain disable of paravision. Exactly so I'm you know big eyes on him for that of course they do have cookie which can 05:11:17.740 --> 05:11:24.620 disengage a bit here as well too so we'll see how that goes down and yeah this mid match up you have to mention it a bit here because I think VZM 05:11:24.620 --> 05:11:33.660 overall when he played that in Volker like kind of overperformed versus the snap I think the snap is very good versus this in Volker. It should be right because in mid game it's definitely a 05:11:33.660 --> 05:11:40.220 excellent type of Volker because cold snap is super annoying. Oh yes you get cold snap so you're trying to lay down the kiss and your tornado comes in 05:11:40.220 --> 05:11:43.640 Sometimes it's there's obviously ways you can really mess with the 05:11:44.060 --> 05:11:47.320 That's now but indeed in the lane you're gonna be feeling good 05:11:47.320 --> 05:11:51.560 And you're gonna be able to find the porch very quiet few times run. That's 05:11:52.400 --> 05:11:55.540 You've got to be careful and get those denies and if you didn't vote that yeah 05:11:55.540 --> 05:12:02.000 You know we were testing and I was looking at this so much the other day and it works on denies the innate first vampire 05:12:02.160 --> 05:12:08.920 For some reason it says damage to nearby enemies, but it works on denies. So yeah, at least we tested in demo mode 05:12:08.920 --> 05:12:15.800 it was. I definitely want it. It does work on them. It does go against the text but you know that 05:12:15.800 --> 05:12:20.280 sometimes happens. Crips can be enemies too. They get you trapped, they kill you. That's when 05:12:20.280 --> 05:12:24.360 they're a few minutes. As soon as it's in that position of where it's about to get lasting, 05:12:24.360 --> 05:12:29.960 give the enemy gold, is it? That's an enemy as well. Sun strike bottom. Interesting one. 05:12:32.120 --> 05:12:38.120 Top. Panic. Taking some pressure here. Also damage here. Coming out from knock me and collapsed 05:12:38.120 --> 05:12:44.120 And the Carlos will not be able to survive for his, their Tenix also got to be pretty careful, stay on the bottom lane. 05:12:44.120 --> 05:12:48.120 Nine class is going to end up getting snucked there by Rue, coming with the acorn shot. 05:12:48.120 --> 05:12:54.120 And this lane overall for Paravision, it's designed to try to shut down the Void, but this is also what you were mentioning. 05:12:54.120 --> 05:13:00.120 Void versus Dawnbreaker, if you don't get the chain stuns, he is just going to time walk all that damage off of every instance. 05:13:00.120 --> 05:13:07.120 So, it can be difficult if you don't execute it properly and then you're playing versus that time dilation that's going to be quite brutal. 05:13:07.120 --> 05:13:10.560 He even goes early HP, right? You don't see most people always do stuff like this. 05:13:10.560 --> 05:13:14.320 But he's not bracing, he's going, I think I saw a belt of strength. 05:13:14.320 --> 05:13:15.320 He's coming out in the courier. 05:13:15.320 --> 05:13:19.920 So he's looking for that max HP so he doesn't just get burst by a stun strike, burst by a chain stun. 05:13:19.920 --> 05:13:20.720 Oh man. 05:13:22.720 --> 05:13:23.720 He's got a fairy fire. 05:13:24.920 --> 05:13:26.920 He's got one charges as well, but... 05:13:26.920 --> 05:13:29.720 Framers seeing Loll putting the pressure on to no one. 05:13:29.720 --> 05:13:32.920 You can see it in the CS, really starting to add up now, 19 and 12. 05:13:32.920 --> 05:13:34.920 The 12 denies the biggest thing. 05:13:34.920 --> 05:13:40.080 He's definitely making much better use of that kind of the boomstick than I feel like a lot of other snaps out like that 05:13:40.080 --> 05:13:42.460 We don't normally see snaps get this high amount of denies 05:13:43.420 --> 05:13:47.560 Yeah, he's the one that's kind of he's probably the best one at the mid snap right at the summer 05:13:47.560 --> 05:13:52.940 Or at least played at the most what we see in chief K pull up the mid snap countless times top again 05:13:55.340 --> 05:13:59.420 Getting a fair bit out of this lane yet, I mean they're slowing down the chance 05:13:59.420 --> 05:14:03.500 Yeah, they're getting good amount of the doom as well too so so far here for not me 05:14:03.500 --> 05:14:07.180 Very good positioning here from this tusk. I've been wanting to see more tusk as well 05:14:07.180 --> 05:14:09.740 So I know some people don't I know I can say anyway, so me doesn't really like it 05:14:09.740 --> 05:14:14.320 But I want to see just here a little bit more. I see it pretty great. We always like saves. I know me and you are 05:14:14.320 --> 05:14:15.820 It's got this days 05:14:15.820 --> 05:14:21.020 It has great aggressive potential to catch and you're able to piss BKB with the old 05:14:21.020 --> 05:14:24.580 Yeah, it feels like a support that does kind of offer quite a lot 05:14:25.820 --> 05:14:30.340 Does feel always like it has relevant portions in the game like it doesn't ever feel like this here can be 05:14:30.340 --> 05:14:34.700 Uses however right there is just right now these giga supports, so it is hard to you know 05:14:34.700 --> 05:14:39.740 For sure, I put it right around a thousand damage a million miles away 05:14:39.740 --> 05:14:45.760 So it can be problematic sometimes to just fit this into your draft and we're we're seeing a lot more if clockwork isn't picked 05:14:45.760 --> 05:14:48.820 Right, it's range. It's range of course almost exclusively 05:14:53.900 --> 05:14:58.620 So far so good for the farmer both of them I mean say 10 even though they managed to get him low earlier 05:14:58.620 --> 05:15:00.860 he's been doing very well in this lane. 05:15:00.860 --> 05:15:03.020 Yep, and Yatoro, he's enduring the pressure so far. 05:15:03.020 --> 05:15:05.260 He's a thousand HP on point. You're not bursting him anymore. 05:15:05.260 --> 05:15:07.180 No, it's not happening. He's gonna get the time walk off. 05:15:07.180 --> 05:15:08.220 He's gonna be able to reset. 05:15:08.220 --> 05:15:11.420 So, a last pick Void that's able to get some farm in the lane, 05:15:11.420 --> 05:15:14.380 definitely a good position at least for Yatoro to be in right now. 05:15:17.660 --> 05:15:19.820 And we do, and they also have good combos with it too. 05:15:19.820 --> 05:15:21.900 The chronosphere, they have hoodwink, they have snapfire, 05:15:21.900 --> 05:15:25.340 so we'll have some pretty good damage to be able to throw into that chronosphere in the midgame. 05:15:25.340 --> 05:15:30.540 It does feel like a very good setup for team spirit and they do like having these good 05:15:30.540 --> 05:15:35.580 mid games which lead them to the late game and that's when they just thrive. 05:15:35.580 --> 05:15:37.580 Good rotations, do callus. 05:15:37.580 --> 05:15:48.780 Coming in here they've got 9 class, double supports, oop, there you are. 05:15:48.780 --> 05:15:53.180 Free one there for root and they'll be able to secure the invisiv for 9 class. 05:15:53.180 --> 05:15:58.860 It's going to be the line that maybe even know if there's kisses and not be good target 05:15:58.860 --> 05:15:59.860 processations. 05:15:59.860 --> 05:16:03.380 He looks over the wall to the men and indeed he's on top of him sets up for easy kisses 05:16:03.380 --> 05:16:04.380 to come in from Lyle. 05:16:04.380 --> 05:16:08.260 Now they're crushing that beautiful stuff there from the support team spirit sets up 05:16:08.260 --> 05:16:12.060 Lyle for a double kill super nice plays around the catapult as well while getting him to 05:16:12.060 --> 05:16:13.060 ruin. 05:16:13.060 --> 05:16:17.500 I'll play the support here with the rotation to call us that if you can get him as well. 05:16:17.500 --> 05:16:19.500 bushwhack actually off the mark from rooke 05:16:19.500 --> 05:16:21.500 close, snowball 05:16:21.500 --> 05:16:23.500 and a cookie 05:16:23.500 --> 05:16:25.500 ahhh shot 05:16:25.500 --> 05:16:27.500 couple of right glicks 05:16:27.500 --> 05:16:29.500 and now nightglass could be all still in trouble 05:16:29.500 --> 05:16:31.500 everybody should die in the mid 05:16:31.500 --> 05:16:33.500 no the bushwhack 05:16:33.500 --> 05:16:35.500 doesn't catch nightglass 05:16:35.500 --> 05:16:37.500 is he got spells in a second? 05:16:37.500 --> 05:16:39.500 he does, 3, 2, 1 05:16:39.500 --> 05:16:41.500 he's got the snowball 05:16:41.500 --> 05:16:43.500 oh but nightglass was quicker 05:16:43.500 --> 05:16:45.500 gets the stun off, doesn't matter though 05:16:45.500 --> 05:16:46.500 He's dead. 05:16:46.500 --> 05:16:49.500 I've lost count of how many people just died in the mid-deaf with ParaVision. 05:16:49.500 --> 05:16:52.500 They just died over and over and over and over again. 05:16:52.500 --> 05:16:55.500 They just got handled, legitimately handled by the two supports. 05:16:55.500 --> 05:17:01.500 Oh, that was some pretty hard styling that Spirit just did on ParaVision around that mid. 05:17:01.500 --> 05:17:04.500 The damage between these, hoodwink and dust with tag team. 05:17:04.500 --> 05:17:06.500 Throw the tag team in with the acorns as well too. 05:17:06.500 --> 05:17:07.500 Holy moly. 05:17:07.500 --> 05:17:09.500 Playing around Laurel, playing around their strongest hero. 05:17:09.500 --> 05:17:10.500 I mean that's crazy. 05:17:10.500 --> 05:17:12.500 I mean look at the outcome of that. 05:17:12.500 --> 05:17:14.500 Look at Laurel's net worth now. 05:17:14.500 --> 05:17:18.660 As compared to the Invoker's, that was just nearly double the net worth. 05:17:18.660 --> 05:17:21.140 I mean, after this tower, he probably will be double the net worth. 05:17:21.140 --> 05:17:23.540 If he gets the last hit here, don't mess it up. 05:17:23.540 --> 05:17:24.180 He does it. 05:17:24.180 --> 05:17:26.580 Check the net worth, that's at 4,100, that's at 2,200. 05:17:26.580 --> 05:17:26.980 They just... 05:17:26.980 --> 05:17:28.420 2k ahead at 7 minutes in. 05:17:28.420 --> 05:17:29.380 They killed 6 heroes. 05:17:29.380 --> 05:17:33.220 It was a 3 versus 6 of the same 3 heroes that died initially. 05:17:33.220 --> 05:17:34.740 They just completely outplayed them. 05:17:34.740 --> 05:17:38.660 And that's rough because the toughest thing about that situation, if you're para-vision, 05:17:38.660 --> 05:17:39.780 you don't know who to flame. 05:17:39.780 --> 05:17:40.740 The supports don't know... 05:17:40.740 --> 05:17:41.620 Can they flame the mid? 05:17:41.620 --> 05:17:42.340 Can the mid flame... 05:17:42.340 --> 05:17:43.220 Who's flaming who? 05:17:43.220 --> 05:17:47.440 just good place good place from spirit bringing in the numbers a little bit 05:17:47.440 --> 05:17:50.100 earlier and connecting the spells better and easier and bottom do they have to 05:17:50.100 --> 05:17:55.960 damage all that hurts the bracer the strength threats and now spirit they're 05:17:55.960 --> 05:18:01.620 gonna be able to like me kill nine class execution top notch here from spirit 05:18:01.620 --> 05:18:09.860 this morning notice if somebody get his way out of this pretty oh okay now it's 05:18:09.860 --> 05:18:11.860 Where's the bash? 05:18:11.860 --> 05:18:13.860 They have a bush whack. 05:18:13.860 --> 05:18:15.860 The bash was there. 05:18:15.860 --> 05:18:17.860 The Torrent here we had that with the passive. 05:18:17.860 --> 05:18:19.860 He actually ran out of mana so that would have been awkward if it had hit the bash. 05:18:19.860 --> 05:18:21.860 He used the Q on the... 05:18:21.860 --> 05:18:23.860 He tore his grandmaster foot. 05:18:23.860 --> 05:18:25.860 He didn't have the bash when he needs a bash. 05:18:25.860 --> 05:18:27.860 You can always rely on that. 05:18:27.860 --> 05:18:29.860 He's killed it there. All three lanes looking super successful. 05:18:29.860 --> 05:18:31.860 But, Satanic is farming very well. 05:18:31.860 --> 05:18:33.860 Satanic, he's like, 05:18:33.860 --> 05:18:35.860 guys, what the hell is going on everywhere? 05:18:35.860 --> 05:18:37.860 I look at it up. 05:18:37.860 --> 05:18:39.460 It's the Breaser! It's the... It's the... 05:18:39.460 --> 05:18:42.420 This was super-handsome planning... 05:18:42.420 --> 05:18:44.340 ...the right-mization for Ysora. 05:18:44.340 --> 05:18:48.020 It completely destroys what the Dawnbreaker and the Lion want to do. 05:18:48.020 --> 05:18:51.300 And he identifies them, right? The concept of their draft is set up for some straight kills. 05:18:51.300 --> 05:18:54.020 Yeah, first 10 minutes, they're not able to find anything. 05:18:54.020 --> 05:18:56.340 Over the water mid-area, no one! 05:18:56.340 --> 05:18:57.940 It's dead again! Not me! 05:18:57.940 --> 05:18:59.940 Set up some beautiful moves! 05:18:59.940 --> 05:19:00.820 This guy! Glad we met with him. 05:19:00.820 --> 05:19:07.220 3-0-3, running around the map, and a key part of just completely breaking down... 05:19:07.220 --> 05:19:08.060 This mid-laner. 05:19:08.060 --> 05:19:08.820 An absolute beat. 05:19:08.820 --> 05:19:10.060 There's this move to travel. 05:19:10.060 --> 05:19:10.560 Yes. 05:19:10.560 --> 05:19:11.500 This is insane right now. 05:19:11.500 --> 05:19:15.300 But the net worth that Laurel has and the impact that he can have on pressuring these side lanes, 05:19:15.300 --> 05:19:17.100 everyone's pretty squishy versus that fire early. 05:19:17.700 --> 05:19:20.540 So for Paravision, have to start to slow things down. 05:19:20.540 --> 05:19:23.940 They do have Solar Guardian at the ready, so that is something they can use to counteract, 05:19:23.940 --> 05:19:25.980 but they have to play through the kez somehow. 05:19:25.980 --> 05:19:30.340 Satanic has to start getting involved, because no one, he needs some time to recover. 05:19:31.980 --> 05:19:36.740 And overall for Invoker, this isn't a hero that you go to a side lane to recover and kill a hero. 05:19:36.740 --> 05:19:39.440 No, you go to the jungle and you ice wall some camps. 05:19:39.440 --> 05:19:39.940 Oh yeah. 05:19:39.940 --> 05:19:42.840 So if you turn up to side lane, you're dead. 05:19:42.840 --> 05:19:44.660 Because you know we've seen your tourist playstyle right. 05:19:44.660 --> 05:19:46.640 He'll TP to any lane in Krono. 05:19:46.640 --> 05:19:47.140 He's ready. 05:19:47.140 --> 05:19:49.340 If he sees you turn up to the top lane, 05:19:49.340 --> 05:19:51.340 the voids going to turn up, you're going to get caught in Krono. 05:19:51.340 --> 05:19:52.040 You're going to get killed. 05:19:52.040 --> 05:19:55.180 You're also, you're a 280 movement speed hero. 05:19:55.180 --> 05:19:57.940 Snapfire with the boots of travel, you're like 400. 05:19:57.940 --> 05:20:00.180 So it's going to match you. 05:20:00.180 --> 05:20:03.460 Off the marks with the push, Shwek. 05:20:03.460 --> 05:20:06.620 Now Rouge is just going easy on them. 05:20:06.620 --> 05:20:07.620 doesn't want to hit too many of the bushwhackers. 05:20:07.620 --> 05:20:12.540 This is probably the best possible start you could ever ask for on a faceless void line-up 05:20:12.540 --> 05:20:17.260 versus the best time dilation heroes you can play against, literally in the game. 05:20:17.260 --> 05:20:20.780 He's going to be feeling pretty good, Jatora, and uh, super nice for him. 05:20:20.780 --> 05:20:23.260 As you say, Satanic's going to have quite the challenge. 05:20:23.260 --> 05:20:25.300 I want us to play around him, make these moves. 05:20:25.300 --> 05:20:27.340 He does, he likes the challenge though, Satanic. 05:20:27.340 --> 05:20:29.540 He's normally able to step up to it. 05:20:29.540 --> 05:20:30.540 Snowball. 05:20:30.540 --> 05:20:31.540 Dodges. 05:20:31.540 --> 05:20:33.540 He dropped the Doom down onto the Lich, and collapsed. 05:20:33.540 --> 05:20:38.280 Once we try and bring down the lich weapon will manage to do so to Carlos goes down 05:20:39.140 --> 05:20:41.240 Not me once more. He's got Max pack team 05:20:41.240 --> 05:20:46.740 So we get ready for the punch. It doesn't have a chrono if he finds the chance to might want to just drop it on satanic 05:20:46.740 --> 05:20:51.960 He will will catch it down on a satanic big burst easily able to control them 05:20:51.960 --> 05:20:57.580 And these are the kind of moves they're gonna come out once your torres this sort of a star more than happy to make this quick 05:20:57.580 --> 05:21:01.280 Swing up towards top lane and get involved in killing off the enemy carry 05:21:01.280 --> 05:21:06.900 Which at the moment is kind of paraffinions one and only hope truly is and we saw immediately this noble the solar 05:21:06.900 --> 05:21:10.720 Guarding comes in dodges this started. Well, they still want to fight a paraffinion notice 05:21:11.600 --> 05:21:13.600 Be careful. I 05:21:13.600 --> 05:21:16.860 Mean the kids the kids is they're coming in pretty hard. Oh god 05:21:17.860 --> 05:21:22.680 They wanted to do that, but I don't know if they really wanted to do that. They wanted to do it 05:21:22.680 --> 05:21:24.680 Oh, no, I wanted to do it 05:21:25.160 --> 05:21:27.160 Okay, he'll be alright 05:21:27.580 --> 05:21:29.580 Maybe they can get nothing. 05:21:29.580 --> 05:21:31.580 Can they, Satanic? Can you get the cleanup? 05:21:31.580 --> 05:21:34.580 Oh, look at that! That was a cute little cookie on the crate there! 05:21:34.580 --> 05:21:36.580 They're just chain-dying, Owen! 05:21:36.580 --> 05:21:38.580 They are literally chain-dying! 05:21:38.580 --> 05:21:40.580 I don't even know what to say. 05:21:40.580 --> 05:21:41.580 And no one! 05:21:41.580 --> 05:21:42.580 Okay, another detection. 05:21:42.580 --> 05:21:44.580 But he's burning seven dilation! 05:21:44.580 --> 05:21:45.580 Okay, he's right. 05:21:46.580 --> 05:21:48.580 Satanic, can you get away? 05:21:48.580 --> 05:21:49.580 I don't know, they've got the cookie on him. 05:21:49.580 --> 05:21:50.580 Owen. 05:21:50.580 --> 05:21:51.580 They are just... 05:21:51.580 --> 05:21:52.580 They are just... 05:21:52.580 --> 05:21:53.580 They are just... 05:21:53.580 --> 05:21:54.580 Shit not over here! 05:21:54.580 --> 05:21:56.580 Their action is just running at them! 05:21:56.580 --> 05:21:57.620 Oh no. 05:21:58.180 --> 05:21:59.180 Holy shit. 05:21:59.180 --> 05:22:00.180 Oh yeah. 05:22:00.180 --> 05:22:01.180 This is, yeah. 05:22:01.940 --> 05:22:05.660 16 kills, 12 minutes with the faceless void lineup. 05:22:05.660 --> 05:22:06.260 Yep. 05:22:06.260 --> 05:22:07.060 Alright, this is... 05:22:08.100 --> 05:22:09.420 Marvelous to watch, truly. 05:22:09.420 --> 05:22:12.500 Paravision, I tried to slow things down, but not really. 05:22:12.500 --> 05:22:13.900 They actually show up to go through the pipes. 05:22:13.900 --> 05:22:15.100 I'm just showing up and dying! 05:22:16.740 --> 05:22:18.420 I can't believe no one actually turns up to that one. 05:22:18.420 --> 05:22:20.100 He will survive at the end of it all. 05:22:20.100 --> 05:22:21.140 My goodness, they are getting... 05:22:21.140 --> 05:22:21.900 Very close. 05:22:21.900 --> 05:22:23.260 They're getting wrecked on every front. 05:22:23.260 --> 05:22:23.780 Yep. 05:22:26.580 --> 05:22:28.580 Well, is it Satanic? He's got a heavy one here. 05:22:28.580 --> 05:22:29.580 He's got heavy one here. 05:22:29.580 --> 05:22:30.580 This is a heavy game for Satanic. 05:22:31.580 --> 05:22:32.580 They're like, what? 05:22:32.580 --> 05:22:33.580 Collapse! Look at that! 05:22:33.580 --> 05:22:36.580 He's like, what is going on this game? 05:22:36.580 --> 05:22:37.580 This is fantastic! 05:22:37.580 --> 05:22:38.580 I don't think I've seen Collapse. 05:22:38.580 --> 05:22:41.580 That large in the first 12 minutes ever. 05:22:41.580 --> 05:22:44.580 Nothing life here on Team Spirit. 05:22:44.580 --> 05:22:46.580 He's going early game items. 05:22:46.580 --> 05:22:47.580 I'm seeing on Collapse though. 05:22:47.580 --> 05:22:48.580 He's going for the phase, the drum. 05:22:48.580 --> 05:22:50.580 Not going for like this Radiance that we've seen. 05:22:50.580 --> 05:22:52.580 He's got a Jatoro on the faces void. 05:22:52.580 --> 05:22:53.580 That's a true carry. 05:22:53.580 --> 05:22:58.580 Level 6. Maybe they can... They want to try and get it. 05:22:58.580 --> 05:23:02.580 Guns are set up. Sunlight's coming in. That'll do the job. 05:23:02.580 --> 05:23:05.580 Nicely done. And it doesn't look like there's going to be a reaction this time around. 05:23:05.580 --> 05:23:08.580 They're going to take a decent amount of damage from the bounces. 05:23:08.580 --> 05:23:11.580 They do get something going. And they don't overcommit, right? 05:23:11.580 --> 05:23:15.580 They still have chain frost for the next upcoming play if they want to try for another one here. 05:23:15.580 --> 05:23:20.580 But Spirit have gotten so much out of these early lanes that now look at the way they're set up on the map. 05:23:20.580 --> 05:23:29.080 Not me as farming in the mid lane as a toss, which normally you can't do like this, so he's going to get that blink dagger super early, and they have Chrono always at the ready, it feels like, for these kids. 05:23:29.080 --> 05:23:31.580 They're going to go for the Wisdom right, see if they can get the steal. 05:23:31.580 --> 05:23:39.580 Glax, he'll be back up so he can secure their own Wisdom, and then the Rest of the Spirit. They can make this move for the Wisdom of Power Vision. 05:23:39.580 --> 05:23:41.580 Oh, notice, it's just super dead here. 05:23:43.080 --> 05:23:45.580 I don't even need to use the Chrono for this, yeah, they won. 05:23:45.580 --> 05:23:47.080 Nothing, no Chrono, no Kistus. 05:23:47.080 --> 05:23:51.700 Easy kill, Winston stolen, and they keep control of their own with Collapse on the other side. 05:23:51.700 --> 05:23:54.220 Dai Laurel is absolutely out of control in this game. 05:23:54.220 --> 05:23:59.920 He's got Tire, he's gonna go- he's debating what he wants to do with his build if he wants to continue getting crazy snowball damage. 05:23:59.920 --> 05:24:00.720 He's going to save it. 05:24:00.720 --> 05:24:02.400 He's killing a BKB, which is nice. 05:24:02.400 --> 05:24:03.600 When you're this far ahead of him. 05:24:04.240 --> 05:24:07.620 And against- you know, some of the counters, right, against this Invoker. 05:24:07.620 --> 05:24:08.120 Mm-hmm. 05:24:08.120 --> 05:24:13.940 Having the BKB early means that every chrono is gonna be followed up by a full duration kiss. 05:24:13.940 --> 05:24:15.800 Yeah, that may be a chance of interruption. 05:24:15.800 --> 05:24:17.800 And he lets the kez confine him somehow. 05:24:17.800 --> 05:24:18.300 Exactly. 05:24:18.300 --> 05:24:23.300 But he can also play face forward and use his innate a little bit better for his teammates 05:24:23.300 --> 05:24:27.800 because they're all magic damage, so he can just DKB run and blast. 05:24:27.800 --> 05:24:32.300 And he did go to scatter blast damage, which I've been wanting to see more people do it as well too. 05:24:32.300 --> 05:24:35.300 It's so much if you do start getting ahead like this. 05:24:35.300 --> 05:24:38.800 I'm just gonna see if they can make a move here. 05:24:38.800 --> 05:24:41.300 A brown satanic again. 05:24:41.300 --> 05:24:47.200 I could imagine is very much the one making the calls right now to try and find a way for para vision as a whole to get back into this game 05:24:48.280 --> 05:24:50.280 Just looking for collapse 05:24:50.480 --> 05:24:52.320 Great catch 05:24:52.320 --> 05:24:55.420 Couple of times now they found the chance to punish collapse on his own 05:24:55.780 --> 05:24:59.620 This time they throw absolutely everything just not wanting to miss out on the kill 05:24:59.620 --> 05:25:01.720 He also gets some of those ancients with the chain frost 05:25:01.720 --> 05:25:11.720 The Spirit? Don't seem too fast. They didn't even rotate no TPs. I think they were saying, 05:25:11.720 --> 05:25:14.580 guys, we did so much early game, we can just get these items if we hemorrhage some kills 05:25:14.580 --> 05:25:18.020 right now. It's fine. We have a void. Blink is done for not making. So we're mentioned 05:25:18.020 --> 05:25:22.120 to save in particular. Now they've got it. So even if they get some of these Chain Stun 05:25:22.120 --> 05:25:26.300 potentials to catch a hero, he could just potentially save them. He does buy the Shard 05:25:26.300 --> 05:25:29.080 first and then he's going to go back for VKB. But yeah, he's so rich. 05:25:29.080 --> 05:25:34.680 Yeah, this is probably one of the more farm mid snaps that we've seen right out there at the mid-snap games you've had. 05:25:34.680 --> 05:25:38.180 Him and GBK have definitely had some absolutely absurd gamers on this hero. 05:25:41.080 --> 05:25:44.180 And besides also the saving from not me, right? Now you can be aggressive. 05:25:44.180 --> 05:25:48.180 They have an easy way to jump and start fights without having to bring the faceless void. 05:25:49.780 --> 05:25:54.780 Caravision recovering, at least a bit here in terms of gold being able to hit the neutral for no one. 05:25:56.480 --> 05:25:57.780 We find ourselves alive. 05:25:59.080 --> 05:26:03.480 They don't lose a core though, right? Killing the support. I think Power Visions. Okay, sacrificing. 05:26:03.480 --> 05:26:11.480 Nine class here at this point. And one dimension too, right? Nine class, not really playing his traditional type of style of supports. 05:26:11.480 --> 05:26:18.680 I'm sure he plays quite a bit of The Lion. Sure, it's nothing crazier. You know, we used to boys like his Nix assassins or his Cotls just dominating the game. 05:26:18.680 --> 05:26:26.080 He got banned, right? Then he targeted him super hard in the drafting phase, so Praxi, a little bit of an answer to deal with nine class. 05:26:26.080 --> 05:26:30.040 I think it was literally four or five bands that were used on him and four or five bands on the opposite side 05:26:30.040 --> 05:26:32.760 They were used for collapse and collapse still got one of his most comfortable heroes 05:26:32.760 --> 05:26:37.160 I'm gonna have a look at you just how many how regularly does he actually play a hero? 05:26:37.160 --> 05:26:41.200 That's not one of the kind of nine class specials. He plays his rubik. I think that's the other exception 05:26:41.200 --> 05:26:43.560 I think besides that it's almost always the nine class specials 05:26:44.160 --> 05:26:47.160 Yeah, I think it's been a while since he's been on the line really 05:26:47.800 --> 05:26:54.280 Because he's always got one of his heroes. I don't think I've seen him play lion in one of seven months 05:26:54.280 --> 05:26:56.280 Maybe longer? 05:26:58.280 --> 05:27:01.280 You haven't seen him play Lyons since 2024. 05:27:01.280 --> 05:27:02.280 That would be why. 05:27:02.280 --> 05:27:06.280 He literally has competitively in the pro games. 05:27:06.280 --> 05:27:10.280 And I'll tell you what, he's only got nine games on it professionally. 05:27:10.280 --> 05:27:14.280 So you don't see a lot of nine class Lyons, it's a rarity. 05:27:14.280 --> 05:27:16.280 Okay, so smoke up, paravision. 05:27:16.280 --> 05:27:19.280 They did go for the Orchid that I was mentioning that they might do on the Dawn, 05:27:19.280 --> 05:27:23.280 which they probably need to get that extra kill threat onto Yotaro in particular. 05:27:23.280 --> 05:27:28.780 Yatarno's farm is just also quite ridiculous at this point. He's gonna have the Mjolnir finished very early here. 05:27:28.780 --> 05:27:33.780 Can go for the BKB second item and then that Orcid. If they don't get a lot done with it, can fall off super hard. 05:27:35.780 --> 05:27:38.280 Paravision really wanting to connect with this timing here. 05:27:47.780 --> 05:27:50.280 Spirit. Will they get caught? 05:27:50.280 --> 05:27:53.880 No, I'm paraviging. It's the same thing you can get collapsed in this similar sort of area. 05:27:53.880 --> 05:27:57.880 He's got blink daggers, so they have to catch him before he's able to get that one off. 05:27:57.880 --> 05:28:00.380 Oh, he'll just blink right into him. 05:28:00.380 --> 05:28:02.380 I'm just trying to find out what's going on here, I'm trying to find out what's going on here. 05:28:02.380 --> 05:28:03.380 Everything. 05:28:03.380 --> 05:28:04.580 Actually, everything. 05:28:04.580 --> 05:28:07.080 Oh, he's going to catch on a Yisoro. 05:28:07.080 --> 05:28:07.880 Shit. 05:28:07.880 --> 05:28:08.880 Frost is out. 05:28:08.880 --> 05:28:10.380 Tornado, honestly, might help him out. 05:28:10.380 --> 05:28:12.380 That's going to give him a chance for maybe the snowball. 05:28:12.380 --> 05:28:14.680 The snowball save comes in clutch there. 05:28:14.680 --> 05:28:18.080 As they'll finish up, notice he's going to get the time wall copycat. 05:28:18.080 --> 05:28:23.040 He'll be able to come back to safety, he's gonna be three dead on Paravision this time round, 05:28:23.040 --> 05:28:27.120 Spirit making sure that they get some vengeance for losing their doom. 05:28:27.120 --> 05:28:29.440 And perhaps this... Oh, they actually get the catch towards Titanic! 05:28:29.440 --> 05:28:30.760 Yeah, this time, Rude, don't miss. 05:28:31.680 --> 05:28:34.000 Oh, you taught... Oh, oh, oh, you taught... Oh! 05:28:34.840 --> 05:28:35.360 Well... 05:28:35.360 --> 05:28:36.640 Well, they got him! 05:28:36.640 --> 05:28:37.280 A nice tip! 05:28:37.280 --> 05:28:37.880 They do get him! 05:28:37.880 --> 05:28:38.480 Get in his head! 05:28:38.480 --> 05:28:39.920 I mean, it's worth the tip, like... 05:28:39.920 --> 05:28:40.640 Yeah, for sure. 05:28:41.320 --> 05:28:45.840 It ends up being... I mean, it's still rough, of course, but at least they do get that little bit of a change. 05:28:45.840 --> 05:28:48.040 It's still a pretty big game for them over. 05:28:48.040 --> 05:28:51.040 And did the tornado actually end up hurting more than helpful? 05:28:51.040 --> 05:28:52.040 I don't know, it was close. 05:28:52.040 --> 05:28:54.040 Even where the snowball was going to be there. 05:28:54.040 --> 05:28:56.040 The snowball save was going to be there. 05:28:56.040 --> 05:28:58.040 It looked a little awkward because I was going to give him a chance to time walk after. 05:28:58.040 --> 05:29:01.040 I think some other disable got him on the way down at any rate. 05:29:01.040 --> 05:29:04.040 At the end of the day, a snowball would have been necessary, 05:29:04.040 --> 05:29:07.040 and it would have been necessary for pre or post tornado. 05:29:07.040 --> 05:29:09.040 It would have been there. 05:29:09.040 --> 05:29:12.040 Come in and clutch in the game again, looking to be aggressive. 05:29:12.040 --> 05:29:15.040 They found no one, and they've got a good doom on to him. 05:29:15.040 --> 05:29:19.600 and not be seen to make sure that the damage will be done during the doom so 05:29:19.600 --> 05:29:25.040 there's no one gone. They are done because there's a squadron. And Ruby's ready at the side. 05:29:25.040 --> 05:29:31.440 Get the pushback done. So monsters will be fine. And Centanix keeping in. I think 05:29:31.440 --> 05:29:35.680 this is the most aggressive I've ever seen. Can they run into this Parvizion? I don't know if they can. 05:29:35.680 --> 05:29:43.840 They have a ward but it's gone. BKB for Laurel pre-20 minutes. Wow. Continuing to just 05:29:43.840 --> 05:29:52.840 Dominate with the aggression here, Vru, continuing to show how insanely broken Hoodwink is, 6-0 and 13, letting godly Bushwax almost every time. 05:29:52.840 --> 05:29:55.840 The two supports making so much happen here. 05:29:55.840 --> 05:29:56.840 Yeah, I mean, absolutely. 05:29:56.840 --> 05:30:07.840 Every rotation seems to be hitting, and wanted to mention more about Collapsus Build, because quite a deviation that we've seen, at least in comparison to the more Farmy Dunes, the 33s, and the ATFs. 05:30:07.840 --> 05:30:17.840 He's done this a couple times too, I've seen him eating the Black Dragon, he has the Splash, so he has Cleave to farm, and then he has this like Spell Amp kind of style thing too so he can farm with. 05:30:17.840 --> 05:30:20.840 I've seen him do this a couple times, so, kinda cool. 05:30:24.840 --> 05:30:28.840 This is that Titanic. So much work for him in this game. 05:30:28.840 --> 05:30:29.840 County carry this. 05:30:29.840 --> 05:30:31.840 12k lead at 20 minutes. 05:30:31.840 --> 05:30:34.840 We've seen some Kessies carry some pretty heavy games. 05:30:34.840 --> 05:30:35.840 We have. 05:30:35.840 --> 05:30:38.080 And say, Satanic's Kes is definitely up there, right? 05:30:38.080 --> 05:30:38.580 Yes. 05:30:38.580 --> 05:30:43.360 He is definitely a Kes that you can trust in to win some very difficult games. 05:30:43.360 --> 05:30:45.480 I want to say he's my second favorite. 05:30:45.480 --> 05:30:46.360 I think we're behind... 05:30:46.360 --> 05:30:48.040 I think Mick and him are my favorite ones. 05:30:48.040 --> 05:30:49.040 I think so. 05:30:49.600 --> 05:30:52.920 The Coloss gets the pull, not me. 05:30:54.640 --> 05:30:55.360 Tanky. 05:30:56.880 --> 05:30:57.880 But is he tanky enough? 05:31:00.960 --> 05:31:01.760 No, he's not. 05:31:01.760 --> 05:31:02.320 I'll get him. 05:31:02.760 --> 05:31:05.320 He tried for a solo play on the Coloss, he gets the third, they get a pretty big hit. 05:31:05.320 --> 05:31:08.320 They're gonna find no one. 05:31:08.320 --> 05:31:11.320 I mean, this is such a rough game. 05:31:11.320 --> 05:31:13.320 Yeah, it's super difficult for him now. 05:31:13.320 --> 05:31:15.320 I can't really find the space to get back in and farm. 05:31:15.320 --> 05:31:20.320 There's not really, you know, much chance of there being a lot of 05:31:20.320 --> 05:31:22.320 Sunstrike kill opportunities now that they're behind. 05:31:22.320 --> 05:31:24.320 No, they prevented all the early ones with us, you know. 05:31:24.320 --> 05:31:27.320 The itemization from Yotaro, just the way they played around it too. 05:31:27.320 --> 05:31:31.320 Now they're stalling out for those BKBs and already a game that's hard for an invoker 05:31:31.320 --> 05:31:34.320 and then the cores are all buying first item BKBs. 05:31:34.320 --> 05:31:37.760 It's going to be hard to see how he gets some recovery in this game. 05:31:37.760 --> 05:31:40.240 He's going to go to the cross-shard as we saw, so he's going to split up the map and 05:31:40.240 --> 05:31:41.760 try to get the farm and catch up with it. 05:31:41.760 --> 05:31:43.600 But they might be able to hunt him down and find him. 05:31:43.600 --> 05:31:44.600 They definitely can. 05:31:44.600 --> 05:31:46.760 We've seen a fair bit of early Gems purchase. 05:31:46.760 --> 05:31:51.560 I was mentioning to some people that Skullfield bought like, I think, 20 minute Gems in almost 05:31:51.560 --> 05:31:55.640 every single one of their games, so. 05:31:55.640 --> 05:31:56.640 This time, not me. 05:31:56.640 --> 05:31:57.800 We'll be able to get the solo kill. 05:31:57.800 --> 05:31:59.280 He'll tip him. 05:31:59.280 --> 05:32:01.520 So, looking as well. 05:32:01.520 --> 05:32:04.200 Yeah, he knows how to carry the games on Kass. 05:32:04.200 --> 05:32:12.320 He is on a nine game Caz Winstreet in pro games, Satanic, so he's looking to get that 05:32:12.320 --> 05:32:17.400 ten game Winstreet here, just fight the challenges that may be ahead of him in this game. 05:32:17.400 --> 05:32:20.640 And then maybe if he does do that, right, with this have a comeback, he can tell Mikkei 05:32:20.640 --> 05:32:21.640 move over. 05:32:21.640 --> 05:32:22.640 Maybe I'm the best one. 05:32:22.640 --> 05:32:24.160 Because Mikkei did have a pretty ridiculous comeback. 05:32:24.160 --> 05:32:26.040 He had a pretty good comeback. 05:32:26.040 --> 05:32:28.000 Would this one be a bigger comeback than the Mikkei comeback? 05:32:28.000 --> 05:32:31.720 The Mikkei one was like 30k at 35 minutes or so. 05:32:31.720 --> 05:32:32.720 I know he'd be pretty close. 05:32:32.720 --> 05:32:33.220 Yeah. 05:32:33.220 --> 05:32:35.620 He'd be pretty close, so we'll see if he can't do it himself. 05:32:35.620 --> 05:32:37.620 Have to mention too, he does have buff ups, right? 05:32:37.620 --> 05:32:40.020 He will be getting given a Lackardy in the fight, 05:32:40.020 --> 05:32:42.820 so could be one of the things that allows him to do so. 05:32:46.220 --> 05:32:46.820 Don't know. 05:32:47.620 --> 05:32:49.720 First there, onto nine class. 05:32:49.720 --> 05:32:51.620 Yatoro doesn't get picked off either. 05:32:51.620 --> 05:32:53.220 And now, backup's coming in. 05:32:53.220 --> 05:32:55.320 They're gonna be able to stop the TPL from no one. 05:32:55.320 --> 05:32:58.320 Notice will manage to get away, but no one dead again. 05:32:58.320 --> 05:33:01.920 One of the rougher games I think we've seen him have on the invoker. 05:33:01.920 --> 05:33:09.360 Anywhere he goes, they try to make an aggressive play, they get caught. 05:33:09.360 --> 05:33:12.280 And this is all time when he's bought Orcid on the Dawnbreaker too, right? 05:33:12.280 --> 05:33:15.960 So every lingering moment that they're not getting kills off of this, he is falling behind 05:33:15.960 --> 05:33:16.960 at the least. 05:33:16.960 --> 05:33:20.240 And the instant smoke, spirit. 05:33:20.240 --> 05:33:24.040 Just crazy fast how they're playing today. 05:33:24.040 --> 05:33:28.120 And the BKB's done for collapse, not me, almost has a BKB on the support tusk as well. 05:33:28.120 --> 05:33:30.120 It's always gonna be able to get the snowball snaves off. 05:33:30.120 --> 05:33:30.840 Good God. 05:33:32.040 --> 05:33:32.600 Satanic. 05:33:32.600 --> 05:33:33.240 Oh, he's stuck. 05:33:33.240 --> 05:33:34.360 Oh, he's gotta be careful. 05:33:34.360 --> 05:33:35.480 He's there for everything. 05:33:35.480 --> 05:33:36.440 And they're gonna find him. 05:33:36.440 --> 05:33:37.240 They're in with the doom. 05:33:37.240 --> 05:33:38.840 That's gonna be Satanic dead! 05:33:39.160 --> 05:33:40.360 Oh, this game is just... 05:33:41.160 --> 05:33:42.280 Borderline impossible. 05:33:42.280 --> 05:33:44.840 They know exactly which target to go for. 05:33:44.840 --> 05:33:45.400 Oh... 05:33:47.400 --> 05:33:49.080 That's a beautiful teamwork from Spirit. 05:33:50.280 --> 05:33:52.040 And the most aggressive, I think, I've seen them play. 05:33:52.040 --> 05:33:53.800 It's there, it's 24 minutes and they have 31 kills. 05:33:53.800 --> 05:33:55.080 Usually they're the team that's like, 05:33:55.080 --> 05:33:56.360 guys, we can sit back a little bit more, 05:33:56.360 --> 05:33:57.720 hit our specific timing, sit down. 05:33:57.720 --> 05:33:58.920 Nope, not in this game. 05:33:58.920 --> 05:34:01.560 And a lot of it's, I mean, a lot of it's just down to the tempo, right? 05:34:01.560 --> 05:34:05.480 That this mid-snap concept alongside these two aggressive supports. 05:34:05.480 --> 05:34:06.360 100%. 05:34:06.760 --> 05:34:09.000 This trio have done so much. 05:34:10.520 --> 05:34:12.200 They know exactly where he's going to go. 05:34:12.200 --> 05:34:14.520 They know the playstyle with this ghost walking voker. 05:34:15.800 --> 05:34:19.320 They're like, ah, he's going to go try to farm the bottom side of the map, catch up. 05:34:19.320 --> 05:34:19.800 Nope. 05:34:20.280 --> 05:34:21.240 Just making it. 05:34:21.240 --> 05:34:22.520 Yeah, they're there destroying him. 05:34:22.520 --> 05:34:24.840 Ah, I mean, they're just seeing the payoff on the supports. 05:34:24.840 --> 05:34:30.840 We're getting close to this, not me taking over the two cores, a paravision here on his tusk. 05:34:30.840 --> 05:34:35.840 This might be, that means it's going to be one of the fastest support, blink, BKB, shard, like, absolutely the same gameplay. 05:34:35.840 --> 05:34:42.840 Satanic, yeah, they kind of make some smooths, make some smoke moves around him, look to get him some kills, because he's like, he's the only one. 05:34:42.840 --> 05:34:47.840 He's got his prime, right, the mage layer, ag's deso, good to go 25 minutes in, that's not bad at all. 05:34:47.840 --> 05:34:51.840 He's the only one who feels like he can actually get kills at this point, collapsed. 05:34:51.840 --> 05:34:58.360 The stand up, so the Guardian's coming in, and Static will be able to clean up the kill. 05:34:58.360 --> 05:35:00.360 Can it disengage? 05:35:00.360 --> 05:35:03.360 Static is being stalked. 05:35:03.360 --> 05:35:05.360 Chrono, 5 seconds. 05:35:05.360 --> 05:35:09.440 Ooh, he's gonna be able to protect himself for now with the ult, but the push works coming 05:35:09.440 --> 05:35:11.960 in from the high ground, he'll drag himself away. 05:35:11.960 --> 05:35:14.960 They're trying to escape this, he's getting damaged! 05:35:14.960 --> 05:35:15.960 He's getting damaged! 05:35:15.960 --> 05:35:16.960 Oh, time walks off! 05:35:16.960 --> 05:35:21.560 Yattori will be able to survive, and Static is gone. 05:35:21.560 --> 05:35:22.600 No one shows up! 05:35:22.600 --> 05:35:25.200 He's got 10 dice and 9 class. 05:35:25.200 --> 05:35:26.240 Can you get out of this? 05:35:27.560 --> 05:35:28.920 Trying to juke him around the trees. 05:35:28.920 --> 05:35:31.040 Ah, but unfortunately for him through. 05:35:31.040 --> 05:35:33.240 And it's alright, I'll wait for him there on the other side. 05:35:33.240 --> 05:35:35.160 A lot of tips on the 9 class here. 05:35:36.280 --> 05:35:37.120 Yeah. 05:35:37.960 --> 05:35:40.440 I think they're truly just handling them at this point. 05:35:40.440 --> 05:35:41.520 Every move is working. 05:35:41.520 --> 05:35:43.240 The draft feels like it's perfect for them. 05:35:43.240 --> 05:35:45.240 The last pick, Void, has now survived 05:35:45.240 --> 05:35:47.640 at a sliver of HP multiple times. 05:35:47.640 --> 05:35:53.080 I love seeing little small adaptations just like a bracer, you know. 05:35:53.080 --> 05:35:56.080 These type of things absolutely matter when you see damage thresholds. 05:35:56.080 --> 05:35:59.880 I'll see you again. 05:35:59.880 --> 05:36:02.200 Laurel knows the main target they want to go for. 05:36:02.200 --> 05:36:04.200 Somehow this hood will get to the angle again. 05:36:04.200 --> 05:36:09.200 That's a tough one. 05:36:09.200 --> 05:36:11.720 Look how low your Toro dropped on the damage. 05:36:11.720 --> 05:36:12.720 It was close. 05:36:12.720 --> 05:36:17.120 I mean, you can never underestimate how much damage this cat can kick out. 05:36:17.120 --> 05:36:18.960 and he's able to get a few hits in onto you. 05:36:18.960 --> 05:36:21.640 Instant glimmer, and yeah, that's what's 60 HP. 05:36:21.640 --> 05:36:24.320 Survives again mid, Satanic. 05:36:24.320 --> 05:36:25.160 Get the stun. 05:36:27.040 --> 05:36:27.880 Big damage. 05:36:28.720 --> 05:36:29.680 It's pretty big enough. 05:36:29.680 --> 05:36:31.240 My chest beats, look at them root. 05:36:31.240 --> 05:36:33.000 Collapsed, they're coming in from the side. 05:36:33.000 --> 05:36:35.360 They've got the chain stun, Satanic dead. 05:36:36.360 --> 05:36:37.480 Instant resposers. 05:36:37.480 --> 05:36:38.680 And the kisses are coming in. 05:36:38.680 --> 05:36:40.200 Team's gonna get caught. 05:36:40.200 --> 05:36:41.600 I mean, I don't blame them. 05:36:41.600 --> 05:36:42.960 I really don't blame them. 05:36:42.960 --> 05:36:43.800 That was... 05:36:43.800 --> 05:36:48.780 Well, that certainly weren't one of those 19 minute games that we've been coming used to. 05:36:48.780 --> 05:36:49.780 No. 05:36:49.780 --> 05:36:50.780 I think that was... 05:36:50.780 --> 05:36:51.780 But Breath of Fresh air. 05:36:51.780 --> 05:36:52.780 Really, really one-sided. 05:36:52.780 --> 05:36:57.780 I gotta be honest, Breath of... if they completely destroyed Laurel, the three... 05:36:57.780 --> 05:36:59.440 What just happened? 05:36:59.440 --> 05:37:04.020 That three trio, the snap, Tosk, the hoodwink, they did not let Paravision play Dota, and 05:37:04.020 --> 05:37:08.940 that whole sequence that happened around mid, they lost six heroes and didn't kill a single 05:37:08.940 --> 05:37:11.740 hero and then lost their tower as well. 05:37:11.740 --> 05:37:15.560 It's probably one of the craziest sequences I've seen happen around the 6-7 minutes. 05:37:15.560 --> 05:37:18.720 Spirit, snowballed, a perfect game from the thousandth. 05:37:18.720 --> 05:37:23.020 And I guess the draft, I really think, as you said, the fact that they addressed 9 class 05:37:23.020 --> 05:37:27.320 and 18 pushed him onto a hero that he just doesn't really play. 05:37:27.320 --> 05:37:28.320 No. 05:37:28.320 --> 05:37:31.860 And we looked at the stats, he's only played 9 games of Lyon, and then the win rate's 05:37:31.860 --> 05:37:35.000 like 30-40%, they made him play something. 05:37:35.000 --> 05:37:36.600 They broke him in the draft fold. 05:37:36.600 --> 05:37:38.600 They broke off, you know. 05:37:38.600 --> 05:37:39.600 Yeah. 05:37:39.600 --> 05:37:43.600 Well, we'll see what they'll do. I mean, I'm sure PowerVision will come back. 05:37:43.600 --> 05:37:46.100 You know, they ain't getting rolled over twice in a row. 05:37:46.100 --> 05:37:50.100 They're usually the team that fights back pretty good early, so they have to make some good adaptations. 05:37:50.100 --> 05:37:52.600 Because Spirit, they definitely made adaptations. 05:37:52.600 --> 05:37:59.100 Oh, they did. They did. They had a beautiful plan to turn up today and deal with PowerVision in this game one. 05:37:59.100 --> 05:38:04.100 And it was not even close. A very easy game one here, and this best in free for Team Spirit. 05:38:04.100 --> 05:38:08.220 Yeah, maybe the app everything is going to be a little bit more fired up for game number 05:38:08.220 --> 05:38:12.740 two after the tips and the smiley face of Carl Statham-I-Chill. 05:38:12.740 --> 05:38:17.220 Oh, I don't know, Shira, how that's going to affect the team like this. 05:38:17.220 --> 05:38:22.380 We saw them make some comebacks in the tournament after losing game one, but it's also knowing 05:38:22.380 --> 05:38:26.980 that this team, you know, it can sometimes look bad, it can affect them, so I want to 05:38:26.980 --> 05:38:32.020 see what the adaptation is going to be, because I also think they got pretty heavily in the 05:38:32.020 --> 05:38:37.760 draft is what the Fogged and Owen were saying. Clockwork gone, IO gone, and Keeper of the 05:38:37.760 --> 05:38:43.460 Light gone. Not that good of a game for Huskar. It was also a hero that Parvishan did kind 05:38:43.460 --> 05:38:48.600 of have to ban themselves. So he's left with a hero that he doesn't really play. And you 05:38:48.600 --> 05:38:52.200 could definitely tell that he doesn't feel comfortable playing it, especially in a losing 05:38:52.200 --> 05:38:53.200 game. 05:38:53.200 --> 05:38:56.880 That was a bit surprised overall because he has a lot of heroes still in the pool. You 05:38:56.880 --> 05:39:00.880 know, his Huskar maybe at that point they don't want to pick it because you know there's 05:39:00.880 --> 05:39:04.180 But even the other things like you first pick cares you ban a lot of offlaners 05:39:04.180 --> 05:39:10.280 They still get doomed but the one thing I also want to point out like a lot of the games go to like one hour or 70 minutes 75 minutes 05:39:10.380 --> 05:39:11.400 But team spirit 05:39:11.400 --> 05:39:17.140 I think they played so well and parry gave like a few openings and it still shows that if a team plays incredibly well 05:39:17.140 --> 05:39:22.680 And they make all the correct moves you can definitely end games before minute 50 60 70 or 80 05:39:23.380 --> 05:39:25.380 Wrong it has to go my bad 05:39:27.500 --> 05:39:29.760 Yeah, this is the odd game out 05:39:30.880 --> 05:39:34.880 They smashed them, right? I feel like whatever happened around the mid lane, that really... 05:39:34.880 --> 05:39:39.880 Spirit is generally a team where I think their weakest part of the game is how they play around it. 05:39:39.880 --> 05:39:43.880 And whatever happens around the mid lane, it's not really prioritized in their game. 05:39:43.880 --> 05:39:48.880 So when you have their mid lane go this way, where they just continuously keep killing them, 05:39:48.880 --> 05:39:53.880 I feel like they must have a 95% win rate when that happens in their games. 05:39:53.880 --> 05:39:56.880 Lars has been having a really good tournament. 05:39:56.880 --> 05:40:02.820 He's been popping off in most of the games that they played and completely popped off in this one pretty much suffering from success 05:40:02.820 --> 05:40:08.760 It's of travel you have kaya and then you have 2k gold saved up pre 15 minutes 05:40:08.760 --> 05:40:10.760 You're like yeah, I want to buy a shark, but it's still not available 05:40:10.800 --> 05:40:17.920 So he's buying get full yasha kaya as well blink dagger. So he's just fully unlocked. I show who Kazoo and camera again 05:40:18.480 --> 05:40:21.640 Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I'm just like reading if you're playing still good. Keep it going 05:40:21.640 --> 05:40:27.340 Yeah, I think Laurel is just a very underrated midlaner as well in terms of how he plays. 05:40:27.340 --> 05:40:32.940 And in this one they played around him, which did enable him ever since the start, the 4-6th man thrown as well. 05:40:32.940 --> 05:40:38.740 And they're kind of on top of him, making sure that he's having a good time and constantly running at people, 05:40:38.740 --> 05:40:42.140 making sure that he's level 6, he gets those cases up. 05:40:42.140 --> 05:40:47.740 And this game didn't go late, but even if it does, you have Doom, you have Faces of the Void with Snapfire setup. 05:40:47.740 --> 05:40:50.240 These are some of the best setups in the game that you can have. 05:40:50.240 --> 05:40:53.840 I mean their scaling is incredible, but like, I don't know, all the stuff... 05:40:53.840 --> 05:40:57.360 I wonder if it is related to like, 9-class Pismp that comes from 1-0? 05:40:57.360 --> 05:40:59.760 They don't really know how they want to execute their early game, 05:40:59.760 --> 05:41:02.800 and that puts them in like this kind of like, oh what are we doing? 05:41:02.800 --> 05:41:04.880 And then you start reacting to whatever your opponent's doing, 05:41:04.880 --> 05:41:07.040 and you fall into this trap of just like feeding on the mid lane. 05:41:07.040 --> 05:41:10.880 Yeah, even like in the top lane, we saw Invoker teeping in, 05:41:10.880 --> 05:41:13.920 it felt like they needed to punch back, but they were unable to. 05:41:13.920 --> 05:41:15.440 No, they didn't have the damage. 05:41:15.440 --> 05:41:18.400 They were chain feeding there too, like at that point when you're this far behind, 05:41:18.400 --> 05:41:24.440 You can't take those fights. Like even if you then go there with the invoker, there's like there's some time that lations 05:41:24.440 --> 05:41:25.720 It's look at snap's network 05:41:25.720 --> 05:41:30.080 He's like doubling the mid invoker and I know we talk a lot about 9-class for the right reason 05:41:30.200 --> 05:41:32.640 But if this is how the mid matchup goes 05:41:32.640 --> 05:41:35.080 I mean obviously we saw it another time where it didn't go this way 05:41:35.080 --> 05:41:41.800 But if this mid matchup can be volatile then this also is not the mid pick to go for like you're getting smashed in your lanes 05:41:41.800 --> 05:41:47.200 Your early moves like don't really work out and spurred like they are the team they will bring those numbers 05:41:47.200 --> 05:41:49.200 They will find the right pick like 05:41:49.480 --> 05:41:55.740 Scariest hero player combination also like your Toro 24 faces void in a very good faces void game 05:41:55.740 --> 05:42:00.040 I would go back to the drawing board if I'm party because this this was not it 05:42:00.040 --> 05:42:04.760 You know why he's the best way though because he doesn't die. No, no, I'm gonna show you why is the best show me 05:42:04.760 --> 05:42:07.400 Okay, so there was this moment on the bottom lane 05:42:07.840 --> 05:42:10.040 We're like, yeah, look at this 05:42:10.040 --> 05:42:13.040 They're chasing down this guy and like he does a time leap 05:42:13.040 --> 05:42:17.620 That is like not great, and then he's cooking back. So not as actually matters 05:42:17.620 --> 05:42:20.920 But look at this right as it on breakers about to teleport out 05:42:20.920 --> 05:42:22.920 He's gonna press E on his keyboard 05:42:23.120 --> 05:42:27.040 He's done them that guy when he needs it and that is the most 05:42:27.760 --> 05:42:32.000 A reverse time walk that I've just seen on camera. He goes in and then he goes 05:42:32.000 --> 05:42:33.880 You wouldn't walk back. Yeah, yeah with the cookie 05:42:33.880 --> 05:42:38.120 I mean he also survived in the lane because of the bracer strike. Oh, no, no, no, no 05:42:38.120 --> 05:42:42.120 No, it's all about pressing get it. Yeah pressing E when you need about 05:42:42.120 --> 05:42:47.040 You know what a lot of people like it says passive, but it's actually not passive for the people at home 05:42:47.040 --> 05:42:51.180 If you're not pressing E while you're hitting someone teleporting is void. You're making a big mistake 05:42:51.180 --> 05:42:55.060 I listen to the TI winner guys. He knows what's up. Yeah a big question 05:42:55.060 --> 05:42:58.660 I have though is if you have first big snapfire coming out I 05:42:59.580 --> 05:43:06.780 Well, it was second pick but like first pick for spirit. Why why doesn't the lane go better like where we use this is the hero 05:43:06.780 --> 05:43:09.240 That looked extremely good. Where's the sniper? 05:43:09.240 --> 05:43:15.000 Or maybe potentially that could come out. These are the very good heroes and these are heroes that no one wants to play. 05:43:15.000 --> 05:43:20.160 He already banged out sniper in one of those games. Well, the player no one would like to play them. Yeah, exactly. 05:43:20.160 --> 05:43:24.400 That's the thing right there. But no one is not playing them. So yeah, why is no one playing them? 05:43:24.400 --> 05:43:28.200 That's a good question. No one should have played them in this game. I feel like he has to. We should ask why. 05:43:29.160 --> 05:43:32.040 Why is no one playing them? Why isn't in the tournament? 05:43:33.200 --> 05:43:35.200 Why is why not in the tournament anyway? 05:43:35.200 --> 05:43:38.080 No, okay, can I answer the question? 05:43:38.080 --> 05:43:40.400 I genuinely feel like it's related to 9th class. 05:43:40.400 --> 05:43:44.600 I think usually he's playing Nyx, and then no one feels good about playing Zeus or Envr 05:43:44.600 --> 05:43:45.600 or whatever. 05:43:45.600 --> 05:43:49.200 Or sorry, Zeus or Sniper, but I feel like he felt like he has to be Envr, so he has 05:43:49.200 --> 05:43:50.960 some sort of catch or some sort of setup. 05:43:50.960 --> 05:43:55.120 Because while Lyon has stuns, he's not as good at closing the gap and getting on top 05:43:55.120 --> 05:43:56.120 of heroes. 05:43:56.120 --> 05:43:58.600 So you want to have another tool in order to do that. 05:43:58.600 --> 05:44:00.840 And I really feel like it ties back to that. 05:44:00.840 --> 05:44:02.840 Well, what are the four horsemen I am with? 05:44:02.840 --> 05:44:04.840 Nix, Kotso, Haskar. 05:44:04.840 --> 05:44:07.840 Oh, and only the Haskar was still in, which was ignored. 05:44:07.840 --> 05:44:08.840 Yeah. 05:44:08.840 --> 05:44:09.840 Is it too unique, too... 05:44:09.840 --> 05:44:11.840 Maybe they go back to it next game. 05:44:11.840 --> 05:44:16.840 There was an early pick Doom, which I think when they picked Kez, they expected the Doom to come out, 05:44:16.840 --> 05:44:18.840 and therefore they felt like the Haskar isn't good. 05:44:18.840 --> 05:44:21.840 So there's like, prior layers to why they didn't pick it. 05:44:21.840 --> 05:44:23.840 But I feel like that is... 05:44:23.840 --> 05:44:27.840 Maybe they haven't identified themselves, like how important these four heroes are to them, 05:44:27.840 --> 05:44:31.160 But I think like that's the big they got a fine way to make that happen. Yeah 05:44:31.160 --> 05:44:37.160 I also like they will do something different like there were also the like the tips at the end of the game to like towards nine 05:44:37.160 --> 05:44:42.500 Class yeah, and then like to call us responding and ultra like smiley face like you idiots because you know at that point 05:44:42.800 --> 05:44:46.040 That they're attacking your teammate. It's like oh look at nine class 05:44:46.040 --> 05:44:49.560 You know he's playing line you guys can't win in 20 minutes like in my mind 05:44:49.560 --> 05:44:52.360 This won't fire me up like they're a good team you're already in the winner finals 05:44:52.360 --> 05:44:56.960 You're like, you know, they're picking on my teammate. You're gonna talk right now to make sure that he feels good 05:44:56.960 --> 05:44:59.880 He's gonna get this here for the next game and come back and slap them 05:44:59.880 --> 05:45:03.520 But what you actually do on proteins is you go outside you go mind. What are you doing good? 05:45:03.520 --> 05:45:06.680 Why aren't you playing your hero? You're so bad you like a pile on them 05:45:06.680 --> 05:45:10.280 You know like you add on to whatever everybody else is doing. There's a fire. I'm up. Yeah 05:45:10.280 --> 05:45:13.380 No, you need to see them like it. You know like in public. You treat them like it like sure 05:45:13.380 --> 05:45:15.680 This is gonna be your last game if you don't win 05:45:17.200 --> 05:45:19.760 By the way, you see what happened to SSS you're next. Yeah 05:45:19.760 --> 05:45:20.760 Play well. 05:45:20.760 --> 05:45:21.760 Oh no. 05:45:21.760 --> 05:45:23.760 That's a doorway. 05:45:23.760 --> 05:45:24.760 That's good. 05:45:24.760 --> 05:45:29.320 I do think that ParaVision is the type of team I don't see them tilt. 05:45:29.320 --> 05:45:31.760 I feel like they like realistically... 05:45:31.760 --> 05:45:32.760 Really? 05:45:32.760 --> 05:45:36.760 No, I think in a serious manner, they are a team that is willing to play against all 05:45:36.760 --> 05:45:37.760 these broken heroes. 05:45:37.760 --> 05:45:38.760 Yes. 05:45:38.760 --> 05:45:40.760 And you have to be robust mentally in order to do that. 05:45:40.760 --> 05:45:43.480 Because you're essentially saying like, here you go, have your best hero, we're playing 05:45:43.480 --> 05:45:44.480 against them. 05:45:44.480 --> 05:45:47.720 But in which case, reach the best hero as it faces Voidir, it's not fine. 05:45:47.720 --> 05:45:48.720 I think it's like... 05:45:48.720 --> 05:45:49.720 It's all of them. 05:45:49.720 --> 05:45:54.400 Yeah, I mean in this case it was a lot of bad matches, but I think it's like the, the snap fire maybe 05:45:54.400 --> 05:45:56.800 Like I have a whole fire for fear of messengers 05:45:56.800 --> 05:45:59.120 Yeah, they, cause they had some problems 05:45:59.120 --> 05:46:01.600 I don't really like you know the cares and then he goes up against the doom 05:46:01.600 --> 05:46:05.920 You pick the invu into the snap, get last pick void, nine classes online, you know 05:46:05.920 --> 05:46:09.120 I don't want it to only be about him. I think yeah, maybe he was uncomfortable 05:46:09.120 --> 05:46:12.480 But I think all the stuff around him was, was kind of trash 05:46:14.280 --> 05:46:15.240 Back to you Shaver 05:46:15.240 --> 05:46:16.680 No, not back to me 05:46:16.680 --> 05:46:20.680 And it's back to, it's back to you guys and Rala, it's back to game number two. 05:46:20.680 --> 05:46:22.680 Coming your way at the other side. 05:46:22.680 --> 05:46:23.680 What was this break? 05:47:16.680 --> 05:47:18.680 I 05:48:16.680 --> 05:48:27.680 Oh my gosh, believe me I am sincere 05:48:27.680 --> 05:48:35.680 When I say, well I'll be the volunteer 05:48:35.680 --> 05:48:39.680 The sun is burning like the sun 05:48:39.680 --> 05:48:43.680 Five, four, three, two, one 05:48:43.680 --> 05:48:45.680 We shine like 05:48:45.680 --> 05:48:47.680 It's the real thing 05:48:47.680 --> 05:48:49.680 It's the real thing 05:48:49.680 --> 05:48:51.680 It's the real thing 05:48:51.680 --> 05:48:53.680 We shine like 05:48:53.680 --> 05:48:55.680 It's the real thing 05:48:55.680 --> 05:48:57.680 Oh, it's the real thing 05:48:59.680 --> 05:49:01.680 We shine like 05:49:01.680 --> 05:49:03.680 We shine like 05:49:03.680 --> 05:49:08.680 You shine bright, you shine bright 05:49:08.680 --> 05:49:10.680 You shine bright, you shine bright 05:49:10.680 --> 05:49:12.680 Yeah, it's the reason why 05:49:12.680 --> 05:49:15.680 Oh, it's the reason why you're so beautiful 05:49:15.680 --> 05:49:19.680 I'm falling for you, I'm falling for you 05:49:19.680 --> 05:49:23.680 I'm falling for you, I'm falling for you 05:49:23.680 --> 05:49:26.680 Back, back, back, you shine bright 05:49:26.680 --> 05:49:29.160 Alright! 05:49:29.160 --> 05:49:31.160 R.I.P. 05:49:33.680 --> 05:49:35.680 You shine the light 05:49:35.700 --> 05:49:37.700 And it's the real thing 05:49:37.700 --> 05:49:39.700 Yeah, it's the real thing 05:49:41.840 --> 05:49:43.840 You shine bright 05:49:43.840 --> 05:49:45.840 Yeah, it's the real thing 05:49:45.840 --> 05:49:47.840 Oh, that's the real thing 05:49:48.220 --> 05:49:50.220 Keep it up, everyone. That was great. 05:49:50.220 --> 05:49:52.220 You shine the light 05:49:52.220 --> 05:49:54.220 You shine the light 05:49:54.220 --> 05:49:56.220 You shine the light 05:49:56.220 --> 05:49:58.220 That's the real thing 05:49:58.220 --> 05:50:01.420 You can't even find out red that you're enjoying some play. 05:50:01.420 --> 05:50:02.420 I hear it! 05:50:04.420 --> 05:50:05.920 You don't want to be in this thing. 05:50:13.520 --> 05:50:14.920 Hey, check this guy out. 05:50:15.420 --> 05:50:16.420 It's not a kid. 05:50:20.920 --> 05:50:22.420 Not my son's! 05:50:52.420 --> 05:50:55.820 That's what I'm feeling for you, 05:50:55.820 --> 05:50:57.920 just drop it to me. 05:50:59.220 --> 05:51:00.220 Smile! 05:51:08.620 --> 05:51:10.620 Now I think it's gonna be a game of the thrill. 05:51:11.720 --> 05:51:14.520 I'm crazy, but you're all dead. 05:51:14.920 --> 05:51:16.920 Now I think I'm gonna be a game of the thrill. 05:51:17.820 --> 05:51:22.220 They're gonna be in the same way that they're so small. 05:51:22.420 --> 05:51:24.420 I thought we got that first one. 05:51:24.420 --> 05:51:26.420 Yeah, we got the first one. 05:51:52.420 --> 05:51:59.420 Someone's feeling a little toxic! 05:52:22.420 --> 05:52:25.960 Feel us, typical, just standing there 05:52:25.960 --> 05:52:27.960 Nothing can dream 05:52:27.960 --> 05:52:30.960 Cause in a way, I suppose I'm wrong 05:52:30.960 --> 05:52:33.960 I'm not a sugarcane man 05:52:33.960 --> 05:52:36.960 There are some things 05:52:36.960 --> 05:52:38.960 Just feel as though 05:52:38.960 --> 05:52:40.960 You're wrong 05:52:45.960 --> 05:52:48.460 Welcome back! You are watching Greenleezy's The 29 Now 05:52:48.460 --> 05:52:50.460 We are in the middle of our bracket finals 05:52:50.460 --> 05:52:58.020 Which means we have two of the best teams here playing two of the top three and to be honest 05:52:58.020 --> 05:53:02.900 I was expecting a more competitive game one which we didn't get that's okay 05:53:02.900 --> 05:53:08.300 It happens sometimes we're gonna see how perversion adjust because if it's the best two teams surely adjustments gonna come very easily 05:53:08.940 --> 05:53:14.580 Insane I think it's a stretch. It's one of the biggest upslides to party is how well they can adjust to different heroes 05:53:14.580 --> 05:53:17.940 And probably what they're gonna do is they're gonna swap up the band so you're gonna have to do something else 05:53:17.940 --> 05:53:19.940 entering a complete waiters meeting. 05:53:19.940 --> 05:53:21.940 What's happening? 05:53:21.940 --> 05:53:22.940 I'm graduating. 05:53:22.940 --> 05:53:24.940 Oh you're graduating school? Yeah, they all have these sailor hats. 05:53:24.940 --> 05:53:26.940 Why do they have sailor hats? 05:53:26.940 --> 05:53:28.940 Can't catch me? 05:53:28.940 --> 05:53:29.940 Oh shit, I caught myself. 05:53:29.940 --> 05:53:32.940 I only saw it in Sweden. Why does it happen in Sweden, Aiden? 05:53:32.940 --> 05:53:34.940 Oh, oh, hold on. 05:53:34.940 --> 05:53:37.940 I'm ducking the hat. What do you say? 05:53:37.940 --> 05:53:40.940 Why does Sweden have sailor hats for graduation? 05:53:40.940 --> 05:53:43.940 I actually have no idea. I just know we only graduate high school. 05:53:43.940 --> 05:53:45.940 We get those. And they're really expensive. 05:53:45.940 --> 05:53:50.220 Hmm. The spools can it's just to make money class. Yeah, it probably is just 05:53:52.460 --> 05:53:57.180 I'm gonna hear more about how they're just gonna just they need to make more money in the lane 05:53:59.140 --> 05:54:04.260 It better look good, they were unable to punch back you could see like the supports being under leveled as well 05:54:04.700 --> 05:54:07.420 And I want to see okay Timbersaw's band 05:54:07.420 --> 05:54:12.900 I've made wanted to see this pick like straight out of the face for them, but it's not happening 05:54:12.900 --> 05:54:17.980 So they need to go back to something different. You talked about them being able to reset 05:54:18.100 --> 05:54:24.100 They played like multiple different heroes multiple different strategies as well showing that they can play like different styles of Dota 05:54:24.300 --> 05:54:28.940 But I want to see some adaptation. Can we just real quick like look at these bands for party 05:54:28.940 --> 05:54:33.500 I don't think I've seen any drafts in this tournament that is not these four heroes banned out 05:54:33.500 --> 05:54:33.980 I agree 05:54:33.980 --> 05:54:39.260 I think even four supports like in general like unless it's like a super OP support like meta 05:54:39.260 --> 05:54:43.900 Yeah, this doesn't happen. I once left in the pool that normally gets banned cuz I was a laundry 05:54:45.500 --> 05:54:50.540 That's the big one I think yeah previous game. We also I'm a clockwork one of them off as one of them 05:54:51.100 --> 05:54:56.740 It's a previous game at Kotl banned out as well. Yeah, a big question mark again 05:54:57.300 --> 05:54:58.980 Aiden your answer 05:54:58.980 --> 05:55:03.620 Grimstroke I wanted to see it maybe in the previous game this time around he gets banned in the first phase 05:55:03.620 --> 05:55:07.780 I think it's mainly pangolidated the times that I've seen it be picked 05:55:07.780 --> 05:55:11.940 It's animated to pangol so like pangol most sure there'd be something doesn't think me about right now as well 05:55:12.580 --> 05:55:14.980 I really sorry. I don't mean to cut you up 05:55:14.980 --> 05:55:20.740 But I really like the idea of banning these four heroes from party because like rule used to be a four player 05:55:20.740 --> 05:55:26.420 Who's now a five both of these guys they play a lot of the same heroes that are like interchangeable with one another 05:55:26.580 --> 05:55:29.060 I mean all of these heroes can be played four and five it has been shown 05:55:29.380 --> 05:55:31.940 Sapphire has been mid-off and and support for them 05:55:32.660 --> 05:55:37.300 Obviously you do give away the clock, but this overall idea. I I know I kind of vibe with it 05:55:37.780 --> 05:55:42.780 It's also interesting that, I mean, Lounder Adults has probably been the most contested hero of this event. 05:55:42.780 --> 05:55:45.780 I'm not sure if it's actually rank 1, but it's up there for sure. 05:55:45.780 --> 05:55:46.780 It's up there, yeah. 05:55:46.780 --> 05:55:51.780 Team Spirit is essentially saying, you know, it's not our best hero, and Pari has proven that they can beat Lounder. 05:55:51.780 --> 05:55:54.780 And Spirit's like, alright, you know, we're just not gonna bite. 05:55:54.780 --> 05:55:56.780 We're not gonna take it. They go for Clockwork. 05:55:56.780 --> 05:55:59.780 We already have Snapfire Band out, which is quite decent against Bok. 05:55:59.780 --> 05:56:04.780 A lot of the strong MetaFors are banned out, so like, the things you would normally expect to see are banned out. 05:56:04.780 --> 05:56:10.780 But the big boy that's still in the pool is Hosskar, and this is the matchup that 9 classes played it in previously. 05:56:10.780 --> 05:56:15.780 It's the best against it. You don't have mana pool, so it doesn't get burned, but... 05:56:15.780 --> 05:56:23.780 What about this hero? I think the pairing that I've seen do the most from the offlane is Caudal plus the Beastmaster. 05:56:23.780 --> 05:56:27.780 It's a hero that notice plays really well. It did allow... 05:56:27.780 --> 05:56:30.780 I don't know what's happening. I don't know what's losing here. 05:56:30.780 --> 05:56:33.780 Actually, very impressive. 05:56:33.780 --> 05:56:35.780 It is very impressive. 05:56:37.060 --> 05:56:41.460 Beast is also quite problematic for Floch right now. The boars are very nice to play into. 05:56:41.460 --> 05:56:47.700 You do play less on like batteries and stuff, but like just being slowed and not being able to get on top of your target is quite tricky. 05:56:47.700 --> 05:56:54.740 And being able to kill cogs as well, it just feels really good because with like multiple heroes you can easily get out. 05:56:55.460 --> 05:57:00.900 I also saw a bit of a tech where people were picking Venomancer to counter Flochwork in the lane. 05:57:00.900 --> 05:57:08.900 So you go for Venomorts Level 1, make sure that you're hitting the cogs, and then you get the extra bit of a gold and kind of ruin what Clockwork wants to do. 05:57:08.900 --> 05:57:13.900 What's interesting here is also, Spirit Banel Pango, which I think is a really important ban here. 05:57:13.900 --> 05:57:16.900 I think if Pango gets that through, Pango Caudal would have created a very nice draft. 05:57:16.900 --> 05:57:23.900 But essentially what we're probably seeing here is that I think they're shying away from us, Kar, saying that it's easier for us to build a solid draft around Caudal. 05:57:23.900 --> 05:57:25.900 This is the hero that we actually prefer. 05:57:25.900 --> 05:57:30.900 I think from all future matchups for the rest of Dream League, this is information that a lot of other teams can get. 05:57:30.900 --> 05:57:34.900 And if you're really scared of the Toscar, you could leave Toscar Cottle and choose to play the Cottle game instead. 05:57:35.900 --> 05:57:39.900 With the Pango being banned out here, I also think it's just one of the best combos. 05:57:39.900 --> 05:57:45.900 Something that Spirits should respect, in my mind, is definitely the Storm Spirits that can come out in this next phase for Taric. 05:57:45.900 --> 05:57:49.900 Of course, you know, Cottle Storm, pretty good against the Clock as well, so you're just going to be chill there. 05:57:49.900 --> 05:57:52.900 But yeah, the Beast is still in the pool. 05:57:52.900 --> 05:57:57.500 And for other off-link combos, I don't even know if they have to stick to too many of 05:57:57.500 --> 05:58:01.500 the other ones, because it's just one of the ones that stick out the most. 05:58:01.500 --> 05:58:05.620 A different hero also that's been banned a lot against Parry is Slardar, but I would 05:58:05.620 --> 05:58:08.220 still put the beast on the top of the list. 05:58:08.220 --> 05:58:14.340 In other words, maybe slightly later, because of the Chakra Magic combination, in the lane 05:58:14.340 --> 05:58:16.260 it's also relatively good. 05:58:16.260 --> 05:58:20.380 You did mention Storm, I think there's a good option for Ember Spirit later down the line, 05:58:20.380 --> 05:58:23.460 some of the best Chakra magic users in the game. 05:58:25.980 --> 05:58:27.660 So they mount it out and they think, 05:58:27.660 --> 05:58:28.700 yes, we're actually just not like, 05:58:28.700 --> 05:58:31.420 it's some giga answer here that would go over this lane. 05:58:31.420 --> 05:58:32.780 When they feel like, because I think for party, 05:58:32.780 --> 05:58:36.540 you need to be able to let, notice that alone in lane, 05:58:36.540 --> 05:58:37.820 and let my class move away. 05:58:37.820 --> 05:58:39.500 I think this is like a key element 05:58:39.500 --> 05:58:41.260 in order to make their drafts work. 05:58:41.980 --> 05:58:42.940 How about, sorry? 05:58:42.940 --> 05:58:43.580 How about? 05:58:43.580 --> 05:58:46.060 Like, how about some Alph plus one? 05:58:46.060 --> 05:58:47.980 It's the hero that Spirit have played very well 05:58:47.980 --> 05:58:48.940 throughout this entire tournament, 05:58:48.940 --> 05:58:51.740 Probably the rest of the Alchemist team in the tournament. 05:58:51.740 --> 05:58:55.820 There's other teams that would be happier to maybe place some Bristol back in this type. 05:58:55.820 --> 05:59:00.220 I would prefer to see Yotaro on a more chat, different type of hero. 05:59:01.500 --> 05:59:05.660 It's interesting, because I was thinking like Jauranger, maybe something of that sort. 05:59:05.660 --> 05:59:06.860 I think that works for you. 05:59:06.860 --> 05:59:09.900 You play like a turret, because you know the lane is going to be 1v2. 05:59:10.460 --> 05:59:12.140 And you play for a really strong safe lane. 05:59:12.140 --> 05:59:15.260 You try to snowball your mid and then use your mid and your safe lane to fight the Trident. 05:59:15.900 --> 05:59:17.820 I would be happy with that too, to be honest. 05:59:17.820 --> 05:59:30.820 I love Ringmaster. It's a hero that the last game they played in this 70 plus minute game, is they had refresher, so he had agonym scepter, he had four boxes, and it was super annoying for Aurora to deal with it. 05:59:30.820 --> 05:59:39.820 By super difficult, they couldn't deal with it, because it was way too much, but I like it as a response to Beastmaster. It gives you extra bit of a team fight on top of that. 05:59:39.820 --> 05:59:52.860 I think this is also quite fascinating from Spirit, right? I think, well, a lot of times 05:59:52.860 --> 05:59:55.500 when you see offline pairing, you see your full lane, you know, exactly where you're 05:59:55.500 --> 05:59:59.340 going up against, people tend to pick the response. You go like, you don't go that extra 05:59:59.340 --> 06:00:03.180 step deeper. What Spirit are showing here is like, they're thinking about the draft 06:00:03.180 --> 06:00:06.500 as a whole. They don't want to pick some hero too early and then have a counter in the 06:00:06.500 --> 06:00:09.620 next phase they want to make sure that they can get that 18 pick with a lot of 06:00:09.620 --> 06:00:12.500 room and they would rather just present collapses here they're like all right you 06:00:12.500 --> 06:00:16.220 gave us like you're all fine here you go here's ours now you make them you know 06:00:16.220 --> 06:00:20.220 they're kind of like flipping it over to the other side there was a game where 06:00:20.220 --> 06:00:25.060 collapse played this Largo plane and he went for Lotus Orb first item this is 06:00:25.060 --> 06:00:28.100 the game where he was playing with Alchemist I think this is still doable 06:00:28.100 --> 06:00:31.260 because it's very good against Beastmaster he was also joining because he 06:00:31.260 --> 06:00:35.580 did do something similar one time during this Dream League as well it's very 06:00:35.580 --> 06:00:40.980 good against Caudal because this ability from Caudal just makes you suffer. Like, 06:00:40.980 --> 06:00:44.360 you're sitting there and none of the cores right now like to play against it. 06:00:44.360 --> 06:00:48.420 It just feels so miserable. You're kind of not moving, amplifying the damage from 06:00:48.420 --> 06:00:52.420 pretty much everything that you take. Amplify damage from the axes. On top of 06:00:52.420 --> 06:00:56.300 that, it keeps stacking. The damage is through the roof. So that's interesting 06:00:56.300 --> 06:01:01.340 with the ringmaster, right? He kind of negates a lot of that just with his box. 06:01:01.340 --> 06:01:09.340 It's cool to see, and there you go. They pick silencer. Why? Well, in order to get kills, they cannot deal with the box. They need something to fix the box issue. 06:01:09.340 --> 06:01:13.340 And now they can global. They can global on the war, and that way the save won't be there for me. 06:01:13.340 --> 06:01:20.340 I do. So the silencer and Largo matchup, I don't think it's as one-sided, especially with people having played it like more and more. 06:01:20.340 --> 06:01:28.340 You know, you already mentioned it. Like last time he rushed his Lotus or he was up against this hero. You go for the shard, you can start disabling everyone, which is definitely very nice. 06:01:28.340 --> 06:01:31.780 I mean, I liked this double pick earlier and now you ended up, you know, with the owl. 06:01:31.780 --> 06:01:35.780 Because Largo, like, any hero skipping timings is pretty nasty. 06:01:35.780 --> 06:01:37.540 I mean, it doesn't happen at often, Dori, you know. 06:01:37.540 --> 06:01:40.460 Back in the day, you had, like, Magnus with Monkey, Magnus with Void. 06:01:40.460 --> 06:01:43.140 This Ultimus-feeding Axis-Own else was pretty similar. 06:01:43.140 --> 06:01:45.220 I'm... I like this one quite a lot. 06:01:45.220 --> 06:01:47.740 It's also that these two heroes, the way they win the game, 06:01:47.740 --> 06:01:50.620 is by being sustained tanky over a long period of time, right? 06:01:50.620 --> 06:01:53.260 And essentially saying, like, you don't have enough burst to kill us, 06:01:53.260 --> 06:01:54.740 is how they win fights. 06:01:54.740 --> 06:01:57.940 And if you look at the damage from the party, isn't very fast. 06:01:57.940 --> 06:02:08.780 Its access backing up, its kez continuously hitting you, its silencer taking damage over time, auto-charging for 5 seconds, so like the way Spirit are answering this draft is just by fundamental, like, 06:02:08.780 --> 06:02:17.020 build up more mechanics, like, answers, which is really, really cool. It's not necessarily like one-to-one hero maiming counterpicks, but an overall picture counterpicks. 06:02:17.020 --> 06:02:21.020 Because not just the sustain that you mentioned is very good against Paris heroes. 06:02:21.020 --> 06:02:23.020 Their heroes don't deal a lot of damage. 06:02:23.020 --> 06:02:27.520 Global, like Carl relies on someone else, Sanasa enables other people to do their stuff. 06:02:27.520 --> 06:02:31.020 Beast is semi-low damage, Kez needs quite a few items as well. 06:02:31.020 --> 06:02:35.020 So I'm quite a big fan of the heroes that Spirit have so far. 06:02:35.020 --> 06:02:39.020 I'm a big fan of Queen of Pain for Team Spirit because this hero, 06:02:39.020 --> 06:02:44.020 we've seen, I think it was Nisha during the Lockia where she was playing against the same matchup 06:02:44.020 --> 06:02:49.020 where he is getting photostore as his first item. Feels really nice to remove the global silence. 06:02:49.020 --> 06:02:52.020 You get the Agatom Scepter later on from the Alchemist. 06:02:52.020 --> 06:02:55.020 And Paravision probably gonna be looking into Storespirit. 06:02:55.020 --> 06:02:58.020 This seems to be the best combo left in the pool. 06:03:01.020 --> 06:03:04.020 I mean, it should be Storm, no? Like, out of the heroes that are left evadeable? 06:03:04.020 --> 06:03:09.020 Yeah, the other one on side of Spirit, other than Queen of Pain, is Moinsbread. 06:03:09.020 --> 06:03:15.140 and these two are kind of the best ones you get priority because you are getting way too much out of it 06:03:15.140 --> 06:03:17.740 So they do ban out Queen of Pain, which does leave 06:03:18.500 --> 06:03:24.140 Store spirit acts is like good, but it's not like the first act that you want to give it's not as impactful 06:03:24.140 --> 06:03:27.340 So probably gonna be looking towards the voice spirit. I kind of like- 06:03:27.340 --> 06:03:29.340 They look like they're just picking stone themselves 06:03:30.180 --> 06:03:32.660 I'm like crazy. They're too bad at the quest loss. 06:03:32.660 --> 06:03:37.340 I was probably- I like his call of the voice spirit just because the items you buy naturally are kind of nice 06:03:37.340 --> 06:03:43.840 I would say at least by mage player, Manta you get fed the axe which is nice. Seems like we're both stupid so lock that shit in 06:03:43.840 --> 06:03:46.340 Lock it in, lock it in, lock it in, reason? 06:03:46.340 --> 06:03:52.340 Listen, question, is this gonna be Yasha, Kaya, some Manta style type of a game for Storm Spirit or Lotus? 06:03:52.340 --> 06:03:54.340 I genuinely could see him go Lotus. 06:03:54.340 --> 06:03:54.840 Lotus? 06:03:54.840 --> 06:03:59.340 Like maybe some Kaya Lotus, I don't know what the exact item build is but some early Lotus I think could be quite effective 06:03:59.340 --> 06:04:04.340 It's like there's a reason we keep bringing this item up, it's just because literally all the heroes hate playing it 06:04:04.340 --> 06:04:08.980 Caudal hates it, Beast hates it. I think Kez can't really get kills without violence in this game. 06:04:08.980 --> 06:04:13.300 Stalancer absolutely hates it. So like, very likely it'll... 06:04:13.300 --> 06:04:18.100 I think they also understood that Paravision will take this Storm Spirit if they don't take it, 06:04:18.100 --> 06:04:19.380 so they kind of had to take it. 06:04:19.380 --> 06:04:22.020 I mean, it's also if you just take a look at the fans, like what's left? 06:04:22.020 --> 06:04:26.260 How do you now, like, pick a Caudal pairing that is also good against Storm? 06:04:26.260 --> 06:04:27.620 You don't. You pick 5 for this stuff. 06:04:28.580 --> 06:04:30.260 And I think that's like essentially what they're saying. 06:04:30.260 --> 06:04:35.120 Experience saying like you can pick between draft integrity, but then you won't have a mid-match-up advantage 06:04:35.120 --> 06:04:40.880 Yeah, or you try to play for your like 24-play kaha. We got you on mid, but then you lose draft integrity 06:04:41.060 --> 06:04:43.240 Like while the matchup is nice 06:04:43.240 --> 06:04:49.700 I would like the Viper pick a lot more if either of the subs had like playability into the storm like the way you need to 06:04:49.700 --> 06:04:51.960 Own these heroes is okay Viper wins mid against storm 06:04:51.960 --> 06:04:56.340 He falls back into the jungle and like clock tusk with some of these, you know the dogs run at you 06:04:56.340 --> 06:05:01.340 they don't love doing that, they want to play their own games, stay in their lane, do some stuff. 06:05:01.340 --> 06:05:07.340 I hope that Parry can play better than they did in Game 1, because I would again not prefer to play their draft. 06:05:07.340 --> 06:05:09.340 I think it's better than last time. 06:05:09.340 --> 06:05:12.340 Yeah, I thought as one sided I think. I think they have damage up on damage up, right? 06:05:12.340 --> 06:05:17.340 You have Viper together with Caudo, and I think with damage, you have this leather toxin farming, 06:05:17.340 --> 06:05:22.340 and with your Caudo stocks, there is a vision here, and this Viper getting really fat could become a big problem, right? 06:05:22.340 --> 06:05:27.040 and he continues to deal damage to these heroes, so I think there's options. 06:05:27.040 --> 06:05:28.540 I don't think it's exclusive to anything. 06:05:28.540 --> 06:05:33.640 Off-light duo is super good, like this is a lane that they're going to win just by spamming it out, 06:05:33.640 --> 06:05:36.840 the low cooldown, unlimited mana in this lane. 06:05:36.840 --> 06:05:40.640 Want to see how they're going to transition that into something, because Caudal's silencer, 06:05:40.640 --> 06:05:46.140 as you said, they're not like the best at rotating around and also playing with their mid laner, 06:05:46.140 --> 06:05:48.940 which is Viper, it's not like an active mid laner by any means, 06:05:48.940 --> 06:05:51.040 so want to see how much they're going to be able to get from it. 06:05:52.340 --> 06:05:58.340 Overall, it sounds like Paravigio is a little bit of an uphill battle, again, in game number two. 06:05:58.340 --> 06:06:04.140 A lot of focus on no one, as in player no one, Pfeiffer in the mid lane if he does not. 06:06:04.140 --> 06:06:09.140 And we said that he should get help because keep up the light for his pick, of course, that should be good for 9-class. 06:06:09.140 --> 06:06:11.540 He gets his signature. One of the four horsemen. 06:06:11.540 --> 06:06:12.140 Exactly. 06:06:12.140 --> 06:06:15.540 Exactly. Is it going to be enough for finding out game number two coming your way? 06:06:15.540 --> 06:06:16.740 Oh, he picks the one for me. 06:06:22.340 --> 06:06:33.340 We're going to take a seat, everybody. 06:06:33.340 --> 06:06:37.340 But if they were more than three novels, we'd school them down to the 19th century now. 06:06:37.340 --> 06:06:39.340 But what if I just came around and tripped to be a novelist, 06:06:39.340 --> 06:06:43.340 and don't have a chance of self-righteous problems, or make them cheap and honest, 06:06:43.340 --> 06:06:45.340 so we had a cultural reasons to follow? 06:06:45.340 --> 06:06:48.340 But it turns out we should bring it to the north and install it to the north, 06:06:48.340 --> 06:06:52.340 and on policy, we'd ground it with wisdom, but we should be careful about it. 06:06:52.340 --> 06:06:57.340 That is, you know, I tell me the purpose of my first century, the Hebrew language. 06:06:57.340 --> 06:07:01.340 Here, it's a little bit of a bit of a firework, but now it's a bit of a science. 06:07:03.340 --> 06:07:05.920 Well, there we go, take my match. 06:07:05.920 --> 06:07:10.420 Well, here we go, game two time, ladies and gentlemen, between team spirit and power vision. 06:07:10.420 --> 06:07:11.420 This music is great. 06:07:11.420 --> 06:07:12.420 It is. 06:07:12.420 --> 06:07:13.420 It's great. 06:07:13.420 --> 06:07:14.420 It's like we get a funky game, I mean. 06:07:14.420 --> 06:07:15.420 We got Largo. 06:07:15.420 --> 06:07:16.420 We got funky, this. 06:07:16.420 --> 06:07:17.420 That's what we've got. 06:07:17.420 --> 06:07:18.420 You've got me singing it, coming into it. 06:07:18.420 --> 06:07:19.420 Game one, little ones guided. 06:07:19.420 --> 06:07:20.420 A little bit. 06:07:20.420 --> 06:07:22.420 Maybe we'll get a bit of a closer one this time around. 06:07:22.420 --> 06:07:23.420 We're getting some... 06:07:23.420 --> 06:07:28.420 Some similarities coming in, say Taniky saying, you know, game one wasn't really a fair sort 06:07:28.420 --> 06:07:32.420 of playing field thing to get to show us, but, and what we know he can do, it cares. 06:07:32.420 --> 06:07:34.420 She wants to run it back here again 06:07:34.940 --> 06:07:39.180 One thing that does stand out just saying to me that there's a storm on the side of spirit 06:07:39.180 --> 06:07:44.580 But there's a lack of something on the side of Paravish. There is zero stuns on there is a roar roar 06:07:44.580 --> 06:07:48.340 And the and the bash that comes out from the case. I know sometimes yes globals 06:07:48.340 --> 06:07:50.380 You know all these other things this can work 06:07:50.380 --> 06:07:52.820 I'm gonna point out what not be doing interesting because it's actually really cool 06:07:52.820 --> 06:07:54.020 But there's some yeah 06:07:54.020 --> 06:07:56.100 There's definitely gonna be some lack of catch at some points 06:07:56.100 --> 06:07:59.860 If the Lotus do come out which we have seen people do and also Largo 06:07:59.860 --> 06:08:05.280 He can go shard and then he can load us his ally and ask you throw it on himself as well to a lot of different potential 06:08:05.280 --> 06:08:06.580 So let's see what ends up happening 06:08:06.580 --> 06:08:10.720 Should it be as one side of his a game because nine class is playing one of his very pesky sports 06:08:10.720 --> 06:08:14.820 Yeah, they were quick to pick that up this time first pick get nine class on his call 06:08:14.820 --> 06:08:21.060 Which he which he's been absolutely dominating with their dream league and top this plane pressure that can come out 06:08:21.060 --> 06:08:25.680 It's a beast master plus that car. Oh crazy amount of damage that starts coming out with the axe spam 06:08:25.680 --> 06:08:27.380 So let's see how they endure. 06:08:27.380 --> 06:08:29.080 Bottom, now we get to talk about what Naki was doing. 06:08:29.080 --> 06:08:30.980 It's very cool stuff we saw from this clockwork. 06:08:30.980 --> 06:08:34.380 We used to see, I think, Skullfield was one of the big ones to do this in the past with this Cogs. 06:08:34.380 --> 06:08:37.980 You just block, you know, you put them down, the creeps aggro them, 06:08:37.980 --> 06:08:40.580 which in most situations would be shown aggro stuff like this, 06:08:40.580 --> 06:08:43.780 but they do aggro Cogs, and you pull that lane into a comfortable spot, 06:08:43.780 --> 06:08:46.080 so Collapsse is gonna get a lot out of the lane here. 06:08:46.080 --> 06:08:47.480 It's gonna shove right into them. 06:08:48.780 --> 06:08:49.680 And there's mid lane. 06:08:49.680 --> 06:08:52.480 Obviously we talk about the potential of the Storm down the line, 06:08:52.480 --> 06:08:54.280 being there isn't a lot of stuns. 06:08:54.280 --> 06:09:00.280 But the mid-match up obviously should be a chance to kind of slow him down. Top lane, Rook. 06:09:01.280 --> 06:09:03.280 Or is on him. 06:09:03.280 --> 06:09:04.280 Tree planted. 06:09:06.280 --> 06:09:09.280 He's doing his best to dodge around the tree-land, but they'll find him. 06:09:09.280 --> 06:09:14.280 So 9th class after a bit of a rough game 1 straight into game 2, getting first blood. 06:09:14.280 --> 06:09:17.280 Super strong lane, even before Shocker's online with the blinding light. 06:09:17.280 --> 06:09:20.280 They're gonna look to pressure Yatoro. The acid spray is pretty effective in this lane though. 06:09:20.280 --> 06:09:25.500 the same thing with the daggers versus boar. It pretty much kills these boars almost instantly. 06:09:25.500 --> 06:09:29.320 One dagger and the boar is at it. It's actually a pretty cool kind of counter from the ringmaster 06:09:29.320 --> 06:09:33.080 even though we don't see it traditionally so much. And yeah, the mid lane, it's going 06:09:33.080 --> 06:09:36.800 to be very difficult for Laurel, so we'll see if some rotations maybe early come out. 06:09:36.800 --> 06:09:39.960 Do you like that they went with that? You know, what you think the thought process was when 06:09:39.960 --> 06:09:45.040 it came to picking the mid? Is it just to go all in on trying to slow the storm down 06:09:45.040 --> 06:09:48.240 early rather than necessarily having ways to deal with him later? Or what's the plan 06:09:48.240 --> 06:09:53.140 Yeah, I think it's just to have a better early game and then you can start to counter him through itemization perhaps and 06:09:53.700 --> 06:09:56.360 Maybe there just wasn't I think it's I don't remember every single bad 06:09:56.360 --> 06:10:01.400 But maybe there wasn't that many like combos for the chakra anymore that they actually wanted to play around to and just wanted to give 06:10:01.400 --> 06:10:08.080 No one that's not that the craziest combat. Yeah, at least he's got you know, they'd be smart for the case 06:10:09.320 --> 06:10:15.240 He's got two solid ones. Yeah bottom. It is a designed lane for satanic to absolutely free farm though, right? 06:10:15.240 --> 06:10:19.640 So they are doing some cool laning mechanics on the side of Team Spirit to ensure the collapse can get something 06:10:19.640 --> 06:10:25.840 But this is a complete free farmcast. So kind of across all three lanes. It's pretty solid for Power Vision, I would say 06:10:29.680 --> 06:10:32.800 Top lane is gonna start getting quite hard for Yotara feels like pretty fast 06:10:32.800 --> 06:10:37.520 So yeah, those things are gonna be put in a position with triple lane wind. But one thing's for sure 06:10:37.520 --> 06:10:40.400 We're not going to see Power Vision TP in 06:10:40.400 --> 06:10:46.600 supports to the mid and dying over and over again. Like, those sort of gameplay slip-ups, 06:10:46.600 --> 06:10:47.920 you don't make two games in a row. 06:10:47.920 --> 06:10:52.840 No. If anything, it could even be Spirit that, like, keeps trying to help the storm, potentially, 06:10:52.840 --> 06:10:55.040 and it comes to be disaster since they're versus the Viper. 06:10:55.040 --> 06:11:00.160 Paravision, definitely fixing a lot of what went wrong in that last draft, in particular, 06:11:00.160 --> 06:11:04.480 three solid late setups. We'll lack some stuns, perhaps, in the mid-game, but can itemize, 06:11:04.480 --> 06:11:08.480 and still will have these silences, and Satanic to get that disabled. 06:11:10.400 --> 06:11:14.400 Manipulated creep wave, look at him, now there's a big one down here. 06:11:14.400 --> 06:11:18.400 Nami just continues to stack them up so they can lapse and farm under the tower. 06:11:18.400 --> 06:11:23.400 He has to prevent the side pulls constantly though, cannot allow Jokalus to get that. 06:11:23.400 --> 06:11:27.400 There's a Toro! Get at them both so low on this top lane. 06:11:27.400 --> 06:11:30.400 Can't get both hit by the axes like that, Rue. 06:11:30.400 --> 06:11:34.400 Past us distance himself, they are almost out of regen up there. 06:11:34.400 --> 06:11:42.000 I'm very much having a hot start on all three lanes here, paravision this time round. 06:11:42.000 --> 06:11:45.520 And some strong heroes to snowball with as well to a round beastmaster, right? 06:11:45.520 --> 06:11:49.760 This hero we've seen is just run rampant if you are able to get a good overlord timing 06:11:49.760 --> 06:11:53.440 and probably not the best heroes I would say overall at dealing with again. 06:11:53.440 --> 06:11:56.880 Hence the not-be-many heroes I can't do too well versus. 06:11:56.880 --> 06:12:00.000 You're talking about efforts that look kind of juggling at some point too, so stacks are 06:12:00.000 --> 06:12:04.160 going to have to be made on the side of Spirit to ensure that he can start to get some type 06:12:04.160 --> 06:12:09.580 the farm because I this might be the most denies I've seen in the first four 06:12:09.580 --> 06:12:16.140 minutes it's what 18- 24 is denied just on the course pretty ridiculous so the 06:12:16.140 --> 06:12:19.280 levels they're gonna be impacted sticking for that goal through the side of 06:12:19.280 --> 06:12:23.380 spirit of the server to start here okay Laura's trying to do the courier pull 06:12:23.380 --> 06:12:26.700 thing in the mid lane he doesn't have a marstein a bit easier from yeah he 06:12:26.700 --> 06:12:29.660 doesn't have a Marstein that's what we've seen a team liquid do when they have 06:12:29.660 --> 06:12:32.500 they drag the quick wave to ensure that you can get something but it ends up 06:12:32.500 --> 06:12:40.420 getting killed. So they're trying every little small mechanic in terms of things to try to 06:12:40.420 --> 06:12:46.020 fix these lanes. This is going to be hard. I mean, when your three cores are an alchemist, 06:12:46.020 --> 06:12:51.180 a storm, and a lago, who's going to get you out of this tough star? It's going to be the 06:12:51.180 --> 06:12:57.660 support. The support spirit did do amazing work last game when they were ahead. But they 06:12:57.660 --> 06:13:02.380 had someone to play around yeah literally this one was a ring master right 06:13:02.380 --> 06:13:05.380 who's kind of more on the defensive side and then even the clock you got a lot 06:13:05.380 --> 06:13:09.180 of control but there's still feels hard to kind of dig yourself out of a rough 06:13:09.180 --> 06:13:14.740 start if you know para vision continue to crush them absolutely they probably 06:13:14.740 --> 06:13:16.940 still won't have to play around the storm I'd imagine with the two support 06:13:16.940 --> 06:13:21.100 because you don't play around the auto too often alchemist and either has to be 06:13:21.100 --> 06:13:23.940 He's sort of, yeah, as you said, the supports in Storm. 06:13:26.100 --> 06:13:27.060 It's not going to be easy. 06:13:27.060 --> 06:13:27.980 Absolutely not. 06:13:27.980 --> 06:13:30.340 This is, you know, very, very impressive from Paravision, 06:13:30.340 --> 06:13:31.900 just the first six minutes. 06:13:31.900 --> 06:13:33.980 And when you do try to do these lane mechanics 06:13:33.980 --> 06:13:35.620 with stacking creep waves, look at mid lane. 06:13:35.620 --> 06:13:37.540 It's a triple range creep coming in. 06:13:38.460 --> 06:13:40.940 I mean, this is just low on time, right? 06:13:40.940 --> 06:13:41.780 Very good. 06:13:41.780 --> 06:13:42.900 You know, they can't save him. 06:13:42.900 --> 06:13:43.940 Minus one as well, too. 06:13:43.940 --> 06:13:45.780 Decalus shows up to make it even worse. 06:13:45.780 --> 06:13:48.220 You know, they're getting some good punch back 06:13:48.220 --> 06:13:50.580 from what happened to them in game one here already. 06:13:50.580 --> 06:13:53.700 You know, game two, 3K lead at six minutes in. 06:13:53.700 --> 06:13:55.780 And super aggressive wards, I want to point out as well, 06:13:55.780 --> 06:13:57.740 to all three of the wards that placed 06:13:57.740 --> 06:14:00.300 are kind of lane wards that dominate these lanes as well. 06:14:00.300 --> 06:14:02.900 So nice little play there from Rune. 06:14:02.900 --> 06:14:04.780 Did not get to see that off top. 06:14:04.780 --> 06:14:06.900 So he survives, but Alchemist is pushed away. 06:14:06.900 --> 06:14:08.420 Everyone is just not laning. 06:14:08.420 --> 06:14:11.220 He's going already early on the side of Spirit. 06:14:11.220 --> 06:14:13.300 Alchemist and Spirit, let Storm Spirit say hello 06:14:13.300 --> 06:14:15.140 in the fountain at the six minute mark. 06:14:15.140 --> 06:14:16.380 Usually not a good sign. 06:14:18.940 --> 06:14:20.500 We'll see how they do endure. 06:14:20.500 --> 06:14:24.140 Not me making a rotation to mid to try to help at least like burn some mana. 06:14:24.140 --> 06:14:26.060 They might even have to sacrifice their wisdom. 06:14:26.060 --> 06:14:28.060 I was gonna say Comparison Setup to take both. 06:14:28.680 --> 06:14:29.180 Yeah. 06:14:30.080 --> 06:14:33.360 Storm doesn't want to rotate. Not me pinging it, but he's like, um... 06:14:33.360 --> 06:14:35.360 Maybe we're not ready for it just now. 06:14:37.320 --> 06:14:40.320 This is the last game I think at this point I think... 06:14:40.320 --> 06:14:43.160 The kill situation was a bit more severe, but... 06:14:43.160 --> 06:14:45.760 This game, when it comes to like the net worth and the XP, 06:14:45.760 --> 06:14:48.800 this one might actually be more severe right these first seven minutes. 06:14:48.800 --> 06:14:50.800 Pretty similar, yeah. Pretty brutal. 06:14:51.800 --> 06:14:52.800 It's a para-vision. 06:14:53.800 --> 06:14:58.800 I would say also these here, they're both pretty reliant on levels on the two supports as well too. 06:14:58.800 --> 06:14:59.800 They are. It's a deal. Any damage. 06:14:59.800 --> 06:15:05.800 I mean, that's what I say. It's when you look at Spirit's lineup, when these heroes are playing from behind this far behind this early on. 06:15:05.800 --> 06:15:06.800 It's tough. 06:15:06.800 --> 06:15:09.800 Who can rally together to get something done? 06:15:09.800 --> 06:15:10.800 I mean, Laurel has to. 06:15:10.800 --> 06:15:15.800 They might have to start, they might have to do weird stuff this game in terms of trying to assist in pressure, but they're lined up. 06:15:15.800 --> 06:15:17.800 One thing they do do well is farm. 06:15:17.800 --> 06:15:18.800 It's far. 06:15:18.800 --> 06:15:23.680 They can't hit those creeps. 06:15:23.680 --> 06:15:27.360 So paravision, obviously up to them to feel the pressure and look for these heroes with 06:15:27.360 --> 06:15:29.080 this type of incredible star right now. 06:15:29.080 --> 06:15:33.680 And they are stacking like crazy, have to point that out, two for nine class. 06:15:33.680 --> 06:15:36.760 They aren't really blocking the camps on the side of Spirit either, so they're not preventing 06:15:36.760 --> 06:15:37.760 it. 06:15:37.760 --> 06:15:42.480 This is insane at Nessware, so you're gonna see there for the Beastmaster. 06:15:42.480 --> 06:15:44.440 Those are really juicy stacks. 06:15:44.440 --> 06:15:45.440 And they can't contest them. 06:15:45.440 --> 06:15:46.440 You know, absolutely not. 06:15:46.440 --> 06:15:48.440 Spirit can not go over to that part of the map. 06:15:53.440 --> 06:15:55.440 Incredible start. 06:15:55.440 --> 06:15:59.440 Don't wanna see why they wanted to play around this vibrant pretend you're tier one tower mid. 06:15:59.440 --> 06:16:01.440 Weren't able to put so much tower pressure onto it. 06:16:01.440 --> 06:16:03.440 Actually, it was a triple range kick that we were mentioning. 06:16:03.440 --> 06:16:04.440 Well, not me. 06:16:04.440 --> 06:16:05.440 But not me. 06:16:06.440 --> 06:16:07.440 He's actually right. 06:16:07.440 --> 06:16:08.440 Yeah, the cops will save him. 06:16:08.440 --> 06:16:09.440 I'll chop! 06:16:09.440 --> 06:16:10.440 Bring in the numbers. 06:16:10.440 --> 06:16:11.440 I can not play for notice. 06:16:11.440 --> 06:16:14.440 They'll get the roar off, but they will get him. 06:16:14.440 --> 06:16:19.440 So, as you said, they have to sort of bring the storm in early, get lol active. 06:16:19.440 --> 06:16:20.440 Only way. 06:16:21.440 --> 06:16:25.440 In order to ensure that your Toro can get something, Loro's gonna have to sacrifice his game a bit here. 06:16:25.440 --> 06:16:27.440 But, you know, eventually, they'll be like, here you go. 06:16:27.440 --> 06:16:31.440 If they get to that point right, they will be able to gift these aggadims, which are very effective. 06:16:31.440 --> 06:16:35.440 Pretty much all of them are super strong, the Loro and the storm in particular. 06:16:36.440 --> 06:16:40.440 So they're lined up if they can slow things down, oh, and they do hit some pretty crazy timings as well, too. 06:16:40.440 --> 06:16:42.440 The question is, they if? 06:16:44.440 --> 06:16:46.940 It's Paravision, playing incredibly oppressive here. 06:16:46.940 --> 06:16:52.140 The 9-7 is still pretty much, I think, all of those last hits there with that blast, away from the storm. 06:16:52.140 --> 06:16:55.640 The thing I will say though, in the last game, the mid tower died at like the 6-minute mark. 06:16:55.640 --> 06:16:59.540 So, that's the one thing that Paravision hasn't been able to do just yet in terms of pressure. 06:16:59.540 --> 06:17:03.940 Yes, they've gotten an incredible lane start, but the towers are alive, but they do have Beastmaster, right? 06:17:03.940 --> 06:17:07.940 So, top tower probably gonna die here, and then he can move toward mid and kill it right afterwards. 06:17:07.940 --> 06:17:14.940 So if you want to play aggressive, of course, do not let spirits sit back and hit the ganks with these three cores. 06:17:19.940 --> 06:17:23.940 And let's see how fast those timings are going to end up actually being on this Beastmaster. 06:17:23.940 --> 06:17:27.940 I think the fastest Overlord we saw was around like that 9 minutes, which wasn't the same, 06:17:27.940 --> 06:17:31.940 but he has slowed down a little bit from the gank that did come up onto him. 06:17:31.940 --> 06:17:39.620 The 9cl... these stacks are... how many is it? Is that a 7? 6 or 7 stack? 06:17:39.620 --> 06:17:46.380 It's getting pretty crazy. I mean, that's easily gonna be another 1k gold to 2k jump up on the network 06:17:46.380 --> 06:17:50.060 leave when they clear those. Spirit have actually found level 6 on Ruse somehow. 06:17:50.060 --> 06:17:58.820 So he does have the wheel. Global is ready for the Coloss. I guess it all, man. 06:17:58.820 --> 06:18:00.820 Drop the Global straight away. 06:18:00.820 --> 06:18:04.820 Getting a lot of damage down onto Rue here with the help of the Bores. That's gonna be Rue dead. 06:18:04.820 --> 06:18:09.820 We'll manage to at least take Ucarla's down in return. The Rue's out onto Yatora. 06:18:09.820 --> 06:18:11.820 No one is turned up. He's stepping up. 06:18:11.820 --> 06:18:13.820 Bottle cleans up the Dominator creep too. 06:18:14.820 --> 06:18:19.820 They'll get a trade. As soon as the Ringmaster dies, he's actually one of the highest damage that they have at this point, 06:18:19.820 --> 06:18:24.820 so they have to just take that trade first with the Sonser, but a trade that I think they'll take at this point. 06:18:24.820 --> 06:18:25.820 He's trying it. 06:18:25.820 --> 06:18:26.820 He might get it. 06:18:26.820 --> 06:18:28.820 Oh, he was so close actually on the ancient one. 06:18:28.820 --> 06:18:30.820 So looking to make the move bottom. 06:18:30.820 --> 06:18:33.820 Trying to catch the Titanic off guard here with Rue. 06:18:33.820 --> 06:18:34.820 Can the extra set this up? 06:18:34.820 --> 06:18:36.820 Colossus here as well. 06:18:36.820 --> 06:18:38.820 He's gonna see not be coming in. 06:18:38.820 --> 06:18:40.820 So I say Titanic's gonna get the input. 06:18:40.820 --> 06:18:42.820 Not easy to execute. 06:18:43.820 --> 06:18:46.820 Also after I was pointing out to you when we were walking over here, 06:18:46.820 --> 06:18:47.820 there is a mechanic. 06:18:47.820 --> 06:18:48.820 The Colossus. 06:18:48.820 --> 06:18:49.820 The Colossus. 06:18:49.820 --> 06:18:50.820 The Colossus. 06:18:50.820 --> 06:18:54.620 Also, after I was pointing out to you when we were walking over here, there's a mechanic 06:18:54.620 --> 06:18:57.020 that comes in with Largo and Kaz that can be pretty funny. 06:18:57.020 --> 06:19:01.220 If you do time the frogs thumb on top of the raptor dance, he does get stuck in the animation 06:19:01.220 --> 06:19:02.220 and you can't cancel it. 06:19:02.220 --> 06:19:06.220 You literally just keep going, like, punk faking it over and over again, so if they can, 06:19:06.220 --> 06:19:07.220 they can ever time it. 06:19:07.220 --> 06:19:16.620 They can mess with him, trip him up, paravision, continue to hit all these timings, do Kaz to 06:19:16.620 --> 06:19:17.620 call his thumb. 06:19:17.620 --> 06:19:22.620 Nice little fellow. 06:19:22.620 --> 06:19:23.620 I'm getting time to hit some creeps. 06:19:23.620 --> 06:19:24.620 You're Taro. 06:19:24.620 --> 06:19:28.620 He's starting to be able to sit back, catch back up, closer and closer toward that kez at the moment. 06:19:28.620 --> 06:19:30.620 I mean, I want to try and go on stage, aren't I? 06:19:30.620 --> 06:19:34.620 I mean, Cogs are some very nice Cogs play that. 06:19:34.620 --> 06:19:35.620 Put one charge. 06:19:35.620 --> 06:19:37.620 He'll let Lotus isn't a very fire. 06:19:37.620 --> 06:19:39.620 He says his ult. 06:19:39.620 --> 06:19:43.620 These two can't do much more about him on their own. 06:19:43.620 --> 06:19:44.620 Cogs are a minigame, though. 06:19:44.620 --> 06:19:45.620 They can just kill you. 06:19:45.620 --> 06:19:49.620 and just kill you, catch you off guard, especially when you are a bit of a lower-man and a little hero. 06:19:49.620 --> 06:19:54.620 Are gonna make the rotation to mid with the Beastmaster as well, so 2nd Tower claims, 06:19:54.620 --> 06:19:58.620 getting easier access into that jungle point here, and it's double mage-fire built. 06:19:58.620 --> 06:20:02.620 So Viper, as well as the Kez, the natural builds for them as we've seen. 06:20:04.620 --> 06:20:07.620 And they'll do it to walk in and he can kill, and it's just a double stack, but it's something. 06:20:07.620 --> 06:20:12.620 He's denying it away from them. Night class, there's Holy Locket, soon to be online. 06:20:15.620 --> 06:20:30.620 And what's on the plan with Paravision's lineup when you have this sort of start, are you just sort of walking around as a unit taking towers, are you trying to smoke up and chase for kills, or is it purely kind of just map control and objectives? 06:20:30.620 --> 06:20:42.620 I think first map control and then you go for the killing and the shutting down. You could probably even get some wards down to potentially slow down the Largos farm, but first take these objectives and then when Overlord timing comes out, that's when you can start pushing the issue forward here more. 06:20:42.620 --> 06:20:45.280 here more the spirit is getting to sit back and hit a little bit here of these 06:20:45.280 --> 06:20:48.940 twins and we are seeing the build of course and collapse instantly queues up 06:20:48.940 --> 06:20:54.380 the lotus not me we get out of this one this time I'm gonna try with the cogs 06:20:54.380 --> 06:20:59.860 but I won't be able to do so so another kill here for no one can't even hit his 06:20:59.860 --> 06:21:07.280 own cog I mean and I see overlord it's finished up already here so they pick 06:21:07.280 --> 06:21:10.540 up the boots in between as well it's still incredibly fast-paced time he's 06:21:10.540 --> 06:21:17.500 able to find. See how much more they can force that tempo. They can either line up, 06:21:17.500 --> 06:21:20.860 kills Rosh super early. They kill most of these buildings very early too with that 06:21:20.860 --> 06:21:24.540 Overlord. I'm seeing Spirit trying to get these small little exchanges. Rue trying to 06:21:24.540 --> 06:21:27.740 position himself to steal the wisdom. It's not gonna happen. But they're not 06:21:27.740 --> 06:21:34.580 hemorrhaging kills is the important thing on Spirit, right? Caravagin died 20 times last time, so they're not 06:21:34.580 --> 06:21:37.580 It's changing by any means. They are trying to sit back and get that recovery point. 06:21:44.580 --> 06:21:49.580 Trying to take over some of the jungle team spirit. 06:21:49.580 --> 06:21:52.580 I think now you start being more impressive. Overlord is done. 06:21:52.580 --> 06:21:55.580 Now you can come to your twos, bring the kez as well, start getting him involved. 06:21:55.580 --> 06:21:58.580 Since he's your lockdown as well too. 06:21:58.580 --> 06:22:01.580 It's horrible to try to delay with the assets, right? 06:22:01.580 --> 06:22:08.260 Rui is dragging the wave, so it takes the creep wave, they're trying to play as much 06:22:08.260 --> 06:22:14.900 as possible, Night Class is going to try to stalk him, but doesn't have a stun. 06:22:14.900 --> 06:22:19.460 You can clearly see the game plan from here, wait for a timing, keep the game alive, as 06:22:19.460 --> 06:22:23.100 long as they can to allow them a chance to farm their way back into it. 06:22:23.100 --> 06:22:27.900 Because once they have Ags, one of the first gifted Ags to the Largo, and that might be 06:22:27.900 --> 06:22:28.900 it, right? 06:22:28.900 --> 06:22:30.900 They have the Lotus on the Largo and the Ags gifted to them, and that's probably going 06:22:30.900 --> 06:22:33.720 gonna be spirit looking for the fights again themselves yeah then they can have 06:22:33.720 --> 06:22:36.260 a chance to fight him back which though is gonna take some time because he I 06:22:36.260 --> 06:22:42.080 think he's just getting his radiance out looking to stop these tier two 06:22:42.080 --> 06:22:50.060 bushes trying to get the wraparound here they do the deep warding 06:22:50.060 --> 06:22:58.060 Let this popped, continuing to try to delay the push. 06:22:58.060 --> 06:23:00.060 Oh, not me! 06:23:00.060 --> 06:23:01.060 Whoops! 06:23:01.060 --> 06:23:02.060 I gotta find him first! 06:23:02.060 --> 06:23:04.060 He'll ditch him immediately. 06:23:04.060 --> 06:23:06.060 Spirit doesn't want to fight. 06:23:06.060 --> 06:23:07.060 He'll tip him as well. 06:23:07.060 --> 06:23:08.060 Here we go, now I got him. 06:23:08.060 --> 06:23:09.060 He's off to that last game. 06:23:09.060 --> 06:23:13.060 He's ready to start firing some tips back away, Spirit. 06:23:13.060 --> 06:23:16.060 And tier two to fall. 06:23:16.060 --> 06:23:19.060 Rosh is on the bottom side, so they do want to go for it. 06:23:19.060 --> 06:23:21.460 It might take them a moment, but perhaps one, two, three. 06:23:24.540 --> 06:23:25.580 Cycling forward. 06:23:26.340 --> 06:23:28.900 Satanic looking for, to join the Frey as well, 06:23:28.900 --> 06:23:30.700 to put this pressure onto Laurel. 06:23:30.700 --> 06:23:32.140 Next tier two, right, keep ticking the boxes. 06:23:32.140 --> 06:23:32.980 Yeah. 06:23:32.980 --> 06:23:35.060 From objective to objective, to objective, strength them up. 06:23:35.060 --> 06:23:37.220 Because with this decelerator, 06:23:37.220 --> 06:23:39.300 the speed that it takes them is just gonna ramp up even more. 06:23:39.300 --> 06:23:42.020 Mm-hmm, and the roast, right, is the next threat. 06:23:42.020 --> 06:23:43.460 As soon as they can take these next two, 06:23:43.460 --> 06:23:44.940 they're trying to delay. 06:23:44.940 --> 06:23:47.020 Desperate timing, the AC timing on nodes 06:23:47.020 --> 06:23:48.860 is gonna be pretty huge as well. 06:23:48.860 --> 06:23:53.180 really building towards trying to do everything they can with this lead to 06:23:53.180 --> 06:23:56.060 assure the spirit doesn't get the time to play the game that they'd hoped for. 06:23:56.060 --> 06:23:59.020 I even want to see Nolan by the shard pretty soon too. I know his career just died with 06:23:59.020 --> 06:24:01.420 Dragoli, but hitting the shard in this huge building to fill the shard. 06:24:01.420 --> 06:24:02.860 He's gonna get found again, he might- 06:24:02.860 --> 06:24:04.380 Ooooooh, Vibra straight! 06:24:04.380 --> 06:24:07.580 Sorry, the hook shot away from the Vibra strike at least will give him a little strength. 06:24:07.580 --> 06:24:08.140 He lifts! 06:24:08.140 --> 06:24:08.940 He's gotta live! 06:24:08.940 --> 06:24:09.980 The box, it's enough. 06:24:13.740 --> 06:24:14.620 Clash attack, Otis. 06:24:14.620 --> 06:24:19.620 There's who's gone, Nug. Another one taken here. 16 minutes in! 06:24:19.620 --> 06:24:23.620 Taking the boxes. Do they go straight for the roaster? Do they go for the tier two bottom? 06:24:23.620 --> 06:24:26.620 Or do they try to get a kill since they have this vision on the top side? 06:24:26.620 --> 06:24:30.620 They may be trying to just get some control of this ancient area. 06:24:30.620 --> 06:24:31.620 No. 06:24:34.620 --> 06:24:36.620 They'll spook you there. Nearly walked into a roar. 06:24:36.620 --> 06:24:38.620 He's ready, Lott. 06:24:40.620 --> 06:24:43.620 Group, we'll get caught this time around, Titanic. 06:24:43.620 --> 06:24:45.620 We'll be able to finish him off. 06:24:49.620 --> 06:24:52.620 And okay, this is nice though. Do the Roche with just two heroes, right? 06:24:52.620 --> 06:24:54.620 Make sure you refresh with the rest of the map. 06:24:55.620 --> 06:24:57.620 There's summons. 06:24:57.620 --> 06:24:59.620 I'm sorry, not me. It's probably gonna go for a field play. 06:24:59.620 --> 06:25:01.620 Hookshot is in. Two seconds. 06:25:01.620 --> 06:25:03.620 Oh, can he time it? 06:25:03.620 --> 06:25:04.620 Get the bore. 06:25:04.620 --> 06:25:06.620 That's for them though, they know someone's coming in from this angle. 06:25:06.620 --> 06:25:07.620 Get the bore on him. 06:25:07.620 --> 06:25:09.620 Hookshot comes in! 06:25:09.620 --> 06:25:10.620 It's not dead. 06:25:10.620 --> 06:25:12.620 It's pretty early though. 06:25:12.620 --> 06:25:21.620 So they'll be able to clean him up, even drop the bro there to make sure they do not get interrupted and no one will get the Aegis. 06:25:22.620 --> 06:25:24.620 Continue to play super aggressive. 06:25:27.620 --> 06:25:36.620 And they're not able to find Yatoro though sometimes. He is able to just walk away again here. He is almost the same net worth as the Khorus on the side of Paravision. 06:25:36.620 --> 06:25:41.580 We'll see how that... I mean, we'll see if the concept of spirit works when they get 06:25:41.580 --> 06:25:42.580 this timing, right? 06:25:42.580 --> 06:25:46.260 When they get the axe, for the Alchemist, they throw it on the Largo, and see if Laurel 06:25:46.260 --> 06:25:49.220 has enough to play around too, because he is still really struggling. 06:25:49.220 --> 06:25:51.220 He needs a Lotus himself to deal with that silence. 06:25:51.220 --> 06:25:56.060 And they're going to put the Global to try and give St. Tannick the chance to go offensive 06:25:56.060 --> 06:25:57.060 on towards him. 06:25:57.060 --> 06:25:58.060 Is it enough damage? 06:25:58.060 --> 06:25:59.060 It's so close! 06:25:59.060 --> 06:26:00.060 The boss comes out! 06:26:00.060 --> 06:26:02.060 The turnover of the war is through instead! 06:26:02.060 --> 06:26:06.360 There's Rue, and Lyle will survive the wheels down, the control with the Whippers well! 06:26:06.360 --> 06:26:11.260 They've caught him, they will lose Rue, but they get the big kill, taking out Static. 06:26:11.260 --> 06:26:15.760 That's a dangerous solo play to go for when you're playing with this type of advantage like this. 06:26:15.760 --> 06:26:22.160 If you do die, you give up quite a lot here, and the play coming in with the Lotus dispels the thought onto Lyle, he'll survive. 06:26:22.160 --> 06:26:25.460 Tier 2 to fall, and no one's queuing up the shard. 06:26:25.460 --> 06:26:27.860 Honestly, you probably want to start going for that high ground. 06:26:27.860 --> 06:26:28.960 You want to try and end this game? 06:26:28.960 --> 06:26:30.360 Yeah, absolutely. 06:26:30.360 --> 06:26:33.720 Because you know if you don't end the game in the next seven minutes 06:26:34.240 --> 06:26:35.580 Knowing the way the games have gone 06:26:35.580 --> 06:26:39.720 You're probably gonna be playing this game for another 14 is true that and you're gonna be playing into these agonies that are 06:26:39.720 --> 06:26:42.920 Gonna get gifted out. We can make the game incredibly complicated 06:26:44.200 --> 06:26:49.360 Because it is a largo with the storm spirit as well to one of the best combos if he does try to get to these points 06:26:50.640 --> 06:26:52.800 Is the shard coming up for the vibe or not yet? 06:26:53.600 --> 06:26:55.800 He bought the he finished up hurricane pipe to be safe 06:26:55.800 --> 06:27:04.800 It's still 3 minutes with the Aegis, and they're definitely going to want to look to continue 06:27:04.800 --> 06:27:05.800 to push it. 06:27:05.800 --> 06:27:09.800 They've got two more men there in 30 seconds, can't look till we step back to that spirit. 06:27:09.800 --> 06:27:11.800 They're smoking out themselves here. 06:27:11.800 --> 06:27:13.800 Notice is a bit vulnerable. 06:27:13.800 --> 06:27:14.800 He's quite vulnerable if he's alone. 06:27:14.800 --> 06:27:17.800 I think of the hookshot and I'll follow him up. 06:27:17.800 --> 06:27:21.800 They've got a decent shot, especially trying to go for these kills whilst the Global Science is on call out. 06:27:21.800 --> 06:27:25.800 Yeah, Paravision cannot split up too far here. The Viper and the Beastmaster have to stay together. 06:27:25.800 --> 06:27:26.800 He's going to go for Nomi. 06:27:26.800 --> 06:27:28.800 He's back up though. 06:27:28.800 --> 06:27:31.800 He's a college though. They'll go on step from targets here. 06:27:31.800 --> 06:27:35.800 And that will not work out. Yeah, they'll have to bail out of this. 06:27:35.800 --> 06:27:36.800 Nomi's going to get left behind. 06:27:36.800 --> 06:27:39.800 Lol, can't try and get the trade there. 06:27:39.800 --> 06:27:42.800 They try to catch him because they maybe are thinking they might split up for a second there, 06:27:42.800 --> 06:27:43.800 but nope, Paravision. 06:27:43.800 --> 06:27:45.800 Continue to play this one, cleanly hugging together. 06:27:45.800 --> 06:27:48.800 We'll be able to get the Storm Mentor as well too, with notice that no one... 06:27:51.800 --> 06:28:08.000 I think they would have immensely preferred to get it onto 9 class, of course since it's 06:28:08.000 --> 06:28:11.480 one of the more broken ones for the coddle, but unfortunately it always goes to the silencer 06:28:11.480 --> 06:28:13.920 as we've said, 100% of the time that I've seen it. 06:28:13.920 --> 06:28:15.400 Yeah, every game you can. 06:28:15.400 --> 06:28:16.880 Actually, every time I swear. 06:28:16.880 --> 06:28:17.880 Something about that. 06:28:17.880 --> 06:28:18.880 I don't know why. 06:28:18.880 --> 06:28:19.880 Alright, commencing the push again, right? 06:28:19.880 --> 06:28:22.200 That shard through the viper, I believe, is coming out. 06:28:22.200 --> 06:28:27.200 There's no clip for 30 seconds, so they could potentially get the racks here. 06:28:27.200 --> 06:28:28.700 This could be quite a push. 06:28:28.700 --> 06:28:31.540 I mean, if you're a spirit, how heavily do you react to this? 06:28:31.540 --> 06:28:33.040 You bring in all five heroes back. 06:28:34.040 --> 06:28:37.380 I imagine... Hmm... That's a good question, actually. 06:28:38.680 --> 06:28:39.680 Do they stack the racks? 06:28:39.680 --> 06:28:40.880 You're gonna have to stack the racks. 06:28:40.880 --> 06:28:42.380 Do you stack the racks? 06:28:42.380 --> 06:28:43.880 Is that gonna be actual thing? 06:28:43.880 --> 06:28:45.380 Well, 21 minutes in. 06:28:45.380 --> 06:28:46.880 It does hardly. 06:28:46.880 --> 06:28:47.880 I don't know. Let's see. 06:28:47.880 --> 06:28:48.880 I don't know if they have to... 06:28:48.880 --> 06:28:50.080 I don't know if they can defend it. 06:28:51.680 --> 06:28:55.080 I don't think they can. I think they just have to let this set of racks go down. 06:28:55.080 --> 06:28:57.580 The thing is Paraphys, they can probably go for another set. 06:28:57.580 --> 06:28:59.780 Absolutely. They want to end this game over. 06:28:59.780 --> 06:29:02.680 They do not want to continue this. They don't want it to drag out. 06:29:05.680 --> 06:29:06.980 Sorry, I'm still a riot. 06:29:06.980 --> 06:29:10.280 The team teams try this, and they failed with it. 06:29:10.280 --> 06:29:15.580 But so far, Paraphys, you're looking like they might have a solid shot of closing the game up. 06:29:15.580 --> 06:29:17.980 They have creep waves coming in bottom as well too. 06:29:17.980 --> 06:29:20.140 This Rax is also potentially gonna die. 06:29:21.360 --> 06:29:23.680 Spam is starting to hurt a little bit here, no one is. 06:29:24.240 --> 06:29:25.040 It has Aegis. 06:29:26.440 --> 06:29:28.280 And the Tauri is gonna see you be back now. 06:29:28.280 --> 06:29:29.280 They have an Aghanim. 06:29:29.280 --> 06:29:30.640 You can't lose two sets, okay? 06:29:30.640 --> 06:29:32.840 We'll be able to give an Aghanim some rewards for the Lago. 06:29:32.840 --> 06:29:33.640 Perhaps has it. 06:29:33.980 --> 06:29:34.840 Let's do what they can do. 06:29:34.840 --> 06:29:35.340 Let's see. 06:29:35.340 --> 06:29:36.440 These Rax are falling. 06:29:37.640 --> 06:29:40.440 It's gonna be two sets and they can't stop this. 06:29:42.480 --> 06:29:44.880 As Paravision is the same. 06:29:44.880 --> 06:29:49.280 massively playing to this time he's playing to this advantage something that I 06:29:49.280 --> 06:29:53.000 feel like so many times we've seen teams get a decent lead 20 minutes in and 06:29:53.000 --> 06:29:56.040 they just haven't been able to do this break high ground in the fashion of 06:29:56.040 --> 06:30:00.400 paravision have here this time round we see times like teams start to split up a 06:30:00.400 --> 06:30:03.040 little bit they lose their ages they don't actually do anything this is how 06:30:03.040 --> 06:30:07.440 you use that is how you do it with a viper you put him on the high ground he 06:30:07.440 --> 06:30:11.040 just hits the buildings with the shard that's a two racks advantage at 20 06:30:11.040 --> 06:30:14.520 minutes of spirit they are getting their timings of items but with the two 06:30:14.520 --> 06:30:15.520 Who rex is the medic? 06:30:15.520 --> 06:30:17.920 So I can deal with two lanes of upgraded creeps. 06:30:17.920 --> 06:30:18.420 Yeah. 06:30:18.420 --> 06:30:20.220 This early on with... 06:30:20.220 --> 06:30:23.520 I mean, the clock ain't gonna be doing anything against these creeps. 06:30:23.520 --> 06:30:25.820 Neva's probably the ringmaster, right? 06:30:25.820 --> 06:30:26.920 And even your cores... 06:30:26.920 --> 06:30:27.720 The cores are... 06:30:27.720 --> 06:30:31.420 It's only Yatoro who really deals with these creeps effectively at this point. 06:30:31.420 --> 06:30:32.420 Paravision. 06:30:34.320 --> 06:30:36.320 Can't continue to display in this area. 06:30:36.320 --> 06:30:38.320 Very tough spot here, for spirit. 06:30:39.920 --> 06:30:41.320 Paravision. 06:30:41.320 --> 06:30:42.620 Coming. 06:30:42.620 --> 06:30:50.020 back swing it after that rough game one very much yes bird ages is reclaimed 06:30:50.020 --> 06:30:54.340 bkb is almost finished you for your Torah they've got the axe timing with the 06:30:54.340 --> 06:30:58.140 shard on the logo with the Lotus to protect Laurel they're gonna walk into 06:30:58.140 --> 06:31:00.620 an arm first no one's gonna get the vibe strike down the global size it's gonna 06:31:00.620 --> 06:31:04.980 be there the roar off towards Laurel that's Laurel gone the game fan from 06:31:04.980 --> 06:31:11.660 paravision looks too strong it looks perfect hit that's spirit not me will 06:31:11.660 --> 06:31:17.340 be able to hook shot out of this. Yatoro, he's found as well. He's going to try and run away from 06:31:17.340 --> 06:31:20.380 satanic, but satanic's ready to chase him down with the veil. 06:31:24.140 --> 06:31:31.500 Yatoro, try for the TPL, but the damage comes through there. Now back on with the push, 06:31:31.500 --> 06:31:34.460 there we go for that final set of racks. The buyback will come in from LL. 06:31:35.420 --> 06:31:39.260 He's going to zip him pretty aggressively. He has to load us to keep himself safe. 06:31:39.260 --> 06:31:41.260 Do they have any damage to bring anyone down though? 06:31:41.260 --> 06:31:41.760 They don't. 06:31:41.760 --> 06:31:42.760 They'll be able to walk this off. 06:31:42.760 --> 06:31:43.760 They're too tanky. 06:31:44.760 --> 06:31:46.760 And Lyle, he's too below on the mana now. 06:31:46.760 --> 06:31:49.260 There's too much to say on their side too with this Coddle. 06:31:49.260 --> 06:31:52.260 They just can't really do any damage and this is before he even has Ultim again. 06:31:55.260 --> 06:31:57.260 To the high ground again. No one. 06:31:57.260 --> 06:31:58.760 He's losing a lot of mana. 06:31:58.760 --> 06:31:59.760 Does have to respect the Cods. 06:31:59.760 --> 06:32:00.760 Saitanix here. 06:32:01.260 --> 06:32:02.760 He's gonna go straight towards Glash Glash. 06:32:02.760 --> 06:32:04.760 They're pretty beefy of course at this point Lyle. 06:32:04.760 --> 06:32:06.760 As the Vortex on to Saitanix, 06:32:06.760 --> 06:32:09.280 But the bash comes out and returns, LoL's got to get away from him! 06:32:10.080 --> 06:32:11.280 Static's cleaning up. 06:32:12.280 --> 06:32:16.160 It's collapsed, and LoL, the draft fight back for the barry comes out, 06:32:16.160 --> 06:32:19.440 Static ready with the old heals out, turns to collapse! 06:32:19.920 --> 06:32:21.920 They're probably about to tap out of this one, folks. 06:32:21.920 --> 06:32:24.880 At the least they're gonna make a creep, and indeed, they'll tap out! 06:32:25.200 --> 06:32:27.240 My goodness, power vision! 06:32:28.160 --> 06:32:28.760 Both teams... 06:32:28.760 --> 06:32:31.720 Pretty much giving the same treatment the Spirit gave them in Game 1. 06:32:31.720 --> 06:32:33.920 Yeah, both teams are speedrunning this series. 06:32:33.920 --> 06:32:42.220 Yeah, look at that. You're used to kind of your 60-minute plus games here at Dream League this season, but here in this series, these two teams say otherwise. 06:32:42.220 --> 06:32:51.120 Drafts and just gameplay, right? Super great, aggressive plays from PowerVision. All three lanes, completely dominating, snowballing after them, masterfully. 06:32:51.120 --> 06:32:55.020 Not letting Spirit get literally anything, right? The Wisdoms were taken super early, too. 06:32:55.020 --> 06:33:02.520 They got to sit back in at the farming times, but the pressure from PowerVision was just way too much, and the timing's just... they didn't do anything. There's no damage. 06:33:02.520 --> 06:33:05.520 Yeah, and they did it quicker than sprinted in game one. 06:33:05.520 --> 06:33:06.520 How much faster? 06:33:06.520 --> 06:33:09.520 Oh, he sprinted it a bit faster in terms of the amount of kills that was going on in game one. 06:33:09.520 --> 06:33:12.520 It was 27 minute victory in game one. 06:33:12.520 --> 06:33:14.520 This one being a 25 minute. 06:33:14.520 --> 06:33:20.520 So they did it 10 minutes faster in this game in a much more objective, focused way. 06:33:20.520 --> 06:33:23.520 Just with the fact that they got like mega creep for it. 06:33:23.520 --> 06:33:25.520 Basically, they got mega creep for a 24 minutes in like that. 06:33:25.520 --> 06:33:27.520 That just hasn't been happening for a deal. 06:33:27.520 --> 06:33:31.520 Triple lane win with a good pushing lineup with the sustained hero behind of the Cotto. 06:33:31.520 --> 06:33:33.980 Pretty much perfect, can't ask for better. 06:33:33.980 --> 06:33:37.520 Absolutely, they played it brilliantly this time around Paravision. 06:33:37.520 --> 06:33:41.820 They get the draft that they'd hoped for and they play it absolutely perfectly to a tee there. 06:33:41.820 --> 06:33:46.020 Paravision, they take game two, it's one to one now between Paravision and Spirit. 06:33:47.520 --> 06:33:52.820 Going the distance here, well, it's very short games, I don't even know why I said going the distance because it's not. 06:33:53.520 --> 06:33:58.020 It's so short because of these games, their miniscule compares everything else. 06:33:58.020 --> 06:34:06.320 Well, they're just both teams are speedrunning it because they win their lanes, then they play very clean and they identify the first moment where they can ball up and say, 06:34:06.320 --> 06:34:14.320 screw you, you're not getting to the late game, all these other games that happened in Stormwind, the teams suck, we're good, we know when we go, and they end it. 06:34:14.320 --> 06:34:19.620 They're recognizing their timings, right? That's all there is to it. They're realizing we're a bit stronger right now than our opponents. 06:34:19.620 --> 06:34:24.520 And when they have the timings, they're deciding to push them. They're not letting this game become like it dragged out. 06:34:24.520 --> 06:34:28.520 We had no stuns vs. Storm Spirit kind of game, or we get countered by Lotus Orbs. 06:34:28.520 --> 06:34:32.320 They're like, Viper's strong right now, Beastman's strong right now, let's go! 06:34:32.320 --> 06:34:35.520 This is how Paravision played during the last TI. 06:34:35.520 --> 06:34:41.020 A lot of the games that they've been winning, the score in the game was very low, 06:34:41.020 --> 06:34:46.220 because they also know how to choke out of the map, and you don't get too much out of it. 06:34:46.220 --> 06:34:51.520 And this is about that this team can also manage to make some good comeback as well, 06:34:51.520 --> 06:34:59.420 After seeing what happened in game number one, and it wasn't really pretty for them, but managed to fix all the issues, all three lanes kind of won. 06:34:59.420 --> 06:35:05.520 The top lane specifically, they weren't able to do much, it just gets spammed out, it started with the first blood as well. 06:35:05.520 --> 06:35:08.120 So it feels very difficult for them to actually play that lane. 06:35:08.120 --> 06:35:12.820 I had my doubts in the draft, because I still somewhat favored Spirit, like going into it. 06:35:12.820 --> 06:35:17.920 Maybe the only lane that slightly overperformed for Parry in my mind is maybe the Caudal Beast. 06:35:17.920 --> 06:35:21.420 I think they can win, I think they want to be slightly harder, but the rest is... 06:35:21.420 --> 06:35:25.900 pretty normal so with how they played they must have fit more to the draft at least than what I thought 06:35:25.900 --> 06:35:30.620 I mean I think what they did was they didn't really play on Chakra right they played around the healing from Caudal 06:35:30.620 --> 06:35:31.260 Yeah like ball 06:35:31.260 --> 06:35:35.820 And I genuinely feel like 9 class like he's one of the most polarizing players in that regard 06:35:35.820 --> 06:35:40.380 but I think when he's comfortable in this team regardless of if his hero is like the best 06:35:41.420 --> 06:35:46.780 in the game he they just they look like a different team yeah like he was in the jungle he's poking for space 06:35:46.780 --> 06:35:50.460 he's abusing like Caudal's high movement speed there's like these things that we don't maybe talk 06:35:50.460 --> 06:35:53.700 talk about so much on the panel, but Kall is really fast, Lyon is very slow. 06:35:53.700 --> 06:35:56.820 He's able to move into the jungle, scout and get information, cannot do a little bit of 06:35:56.820 --> 06:36:01.900 stuff that he does with Spark, and he's utilizing other aspects of the hero that you wouldn't 06:36:01.900 --> 06:36:02.900 normally think about. 06:36:02.900 --> 06:36:08.140 And I think that really is a big part of why it comes together so nicely. 06:36:08.140 --> 06:36:11.540 It makes me wonder, because at the start of the draft, the first phase balance that we 06:36:11.540 --> 06:36:15.660 saw were very unusual compared to what we normally see, and we talked about how this 06:36:15.660 --> 06:36:18.980 This is good for gathering information, you know. 06:36:18.980 --> 06:36:20.860 Both of these teams are guaranteed top three, 06:36:20.860 --> 06:36:22.900 so one of them will be in the best of five tomorrow, 06:36:22.900 --> 06:36:26.020 and there's a chance, maybe a very high chance, 06:36:26.020 --> 06:36:28.820 that they will both be again in the best of five. 06:36:28.820 --> 06:36:31.580 How much do you think the teams think about 06:36:33.020 --> 06:36:35.340 what they will learn today so they can use it tomorrow, 06:36:35.340 --> 06:36:36.180 just in preparation, 06:36:36.180 --> 06:36:38.940 because they're gonna be there anyway type of mentality? 06:36:38.940 --> 06:36:41.500 I think you ultimately, you always wanna win a series, 06:36:41.500 --> 06:36:43.260 but let's say like, for example, this game, 06:36:43.260 --> 06:36:47.740 They had this idea that our position 4 hero pulls are completely different. 06:36:47.740 --> 06:36:53.020 They banned out all our 4s, but they made our 4-play lion, and we had no chance. 06:36:53.020 --> 06:36:57.420 Now let's make their 4-play, or make their 5-play heroes that they're not comfortable with, 06:36:57.420 --> 06:36:58.420 and see how that goes. 06:36:58.420 --> 06:37:02.400 I think you're more willing to test out ideas like that in the upper bracket, but ultimately 06:37:02.400 --> 06:37:03.400 it has to have logic. 06:37:03.400 --> 06:37:05.740 There's some degree of reasoning behind it that has to make sense. 06:37:05.740 --> 06:37:10.660 Well, and in this case also, Ringmaster was at some point called Roo Master, because he's 06:37:10.660 --> 06:37:14.560 He's very good in the hero and Clockwork is the hero or the support of the patch so it 06:37:14.560 --> 06:37:18.080 shouldn't be, it is not bad options to get. 06:37:18.080 --> 06:37:21.520 No, but Talon's her counter pick ruined him completely. 06:37:21.520 --> 06:37:23.120 This hero doesn't get to play. 06:37:23.120 --> 06:37:28.200 It's not like Oracle that can maybe use his Q on himself to dispel potential global 06:37:28.200 --> 06:37:30.080 Talons coming out. 06:37:30.080 --> 06:37:33.840 He didn't have any farm so he doesn't have ways of dispelling things of his own. 06:37:33.840 --> 06:37:35.560 No Guardian Greaves, Lotus Orb. 06:37:35.560 --> 06:37:41.480 He rushed it from the off lane and collapsed after getting Kaia, but it was still not that good of a timing. 06:37:41.480 --> 06:37:44.700 And also Agatham's set your upgrades in this game. 06:37:44.700 --> 06:37:50.320 Yeah, the one on Largo is good. The one on Storm Spirit is really not that impactful early on. 06:37:50.320 --> 06:37:52.840 Like, you have the pullback into nothing. 06:37:52.840 --> 06:37:54.160 The Frogs on that map. 06:37:54.160 --> 06:37:56.120 Yeah, it's a bit difficult. 06:37:56.120 --> 06:38:00.160 The one thing to me that stood out the most, I think, is how well Parry played, 06:38:00.160 --> 06:38:03.440 but also as a team, like, when they decided to go together. 06:38:03.440 --> 06:38:08.360 There's not many other teams that at minute 20 or 20, 30 whenever it was where they're gonna go 5 men to the high ground. 06:38:08.360 --> 06:38:13.360 They buy the Viper chart before because they understand, okay, you know, with this and the Dragon hitting, 06:38:13.360 --> 06:38:14.640 like what does Spirit do? 06:38:14.640 --> 06:38:17.560 Because, Aiden, you mentioned, there are no stuns against Storm. True. 06:38:17.560 --> 06:38:22.000 But if you, what they build, right, the situation is, they don't need any stuns. 06:38:22.000 --> 06:38:25.680 Like, you're creating this high ground push where Spirit, they have to come to you. 06:38:25.680 --> 06:38:31.040 And well, if you don't, then this happens. Your entire base is gone, and the game is entirely cooked. 06:38:31.040 --> 06:38:41.040 So I think it's also amazing to see, like for everyone watching and the teams in this tournament, that if you have an idea and you understand how to make it happen, all these games can end in half the duration. 06:38:41.040 --> 06:38:44.040 No, for sure. For sure. I think it's all about, like, again... 06:38:44.040 --> 06:38:45.040 It is a skill issue. 06:38:45.040 --> 06:38:51.040 Of course, it always is a skill issue. Most of the time, like, if you play any game, it's a skill issue. 06:38:51.040 --> 06:39:00.040 But even more so when you want to play early aggressive drafts. And I think, like, if you look at this game, Spirits, Heroes, I think beat Parry's Heroes. 06:39:00.040 --> 06:39:03.720 if all of everybody has all their timings, but the game doesn't start at minute 60, right? 06:39:03.720 --> 06:39:06.660 There's a lot leading up to that, and I think that's probably really just abuse them. 06:39:06.660 --> 06:39:08.000 Hit the timing before they do. 06:39:08.700 --> 06:39:14.500 It sounds so simple, and we did see Paravision hard adjust from game 1 to game 2, 06:39:14.500 --> 06:39:17.880 assuming Team Spirit is able to do the same thing, LaCrosse. 06:39:18.700 --> 06:39:20.700 We'll have to see. I think... 06:39:20.960 --> 06:39:24.740 Because in this one, they had a lot of damage stacking, they hit all their timings. 06:39:24.740 --> 06:39:28.260 First game, Spirit also popped off, a lot of things aligned for them, 06:39:28.260 --> 06:39:31.860 especially like in the first couple of minutes how they played out the games 06:39:31.860 --> 06:39:35.760 that these rotations to the mid lane that happened which did allow Laurel to have 06:39:35.760 --> 06:39:40.520 extremely good game and this third game I want to see again something that they 06:39:40.520 --> 06:39:45.120 did in the first game try to maybe force nine class into this uncomfortable 06:39:45.120 --> 06:39:48.440 position because this is a day and night difference what he was able to achieve 06:39:48.440 --> 06:39:53.880 I wonder what they think like would you prefer to have first pick obviously then 06:39:53.880 --> 06:39:57.040 the enemy team has four bands and you get your guy or do you want to be the 06:39:57.040 --> 06:40:00.800 team on second pick where they only get three bands but then maybe put them in a 06:40:00.800 --> 06:40:04.160 situation where if they want to block another one of his heroes then they 06:40:04.160 --> 06:40:07.440 have to take it themselves maybe there's no overlap do you have an idea on that 06:40:07.440 --> 06:40:10.840 one? I actually I think I actually forgot to bring this up in tech segment but 06:40:10.840 --> 06:40:15.980 party has almost exclusively played second pick. I think their last like ten 06:40:15.980 --> 06:40:20.640 games are straight up second pick and I think the reason for it is that they 06:40:20.640 --> 06:40:25.000 they want to give you something and counter pick it very simply but like it's 06:40:25.000 --> 06:40:27.000 That's how they play Dota. 06:40:27.000 --> 06:40:29.500 So yeah, I mean, I think if you're... I mean, I don't know. 06:40:29.500 --> 06:40:32.400 I don't know what it's really like full hero pool looks like. 06:40:32.400 --> 06:40:34.700 If I could see their heroes in front of me, it would be easier to be like, 06:40:34.700 --> 06:40:37.500 Yeah, this, but they have more things that they haven't shown. 06:40:37.500 --> 06:40:41.200 Like you never know how much teams have scrimmed and like what the win rates are for them. 06:40:41.200 --> 06:40:42.600 Maybe they just feel like first pick is easier. 06:40:42.600 --> 06:40:47.300 And I think generally, Spirit is more of a, we will build a solid draft, 06:40:47.300 --> 06:40:52.400 counter pick everything you've done with Diatoro, and then play type team. 06:40:52.400 --> 06:40:55.200 Whereas, and I think that generally is easier from first pick games. 06:40:55.600 --> 06:40:58.900 But maybe you take second pick away to screw over party. 06:40:59.000 --> 06:41:01.600 Yeah, and in game one, Parry was first pick. 06:41:02.500 --> 06:41:08.900 And then maybe indeed Spirit just prioritized having second pick so that indeed Parry couldn't get it. 06:41:09.100 --> 06:41:12.200 I think so, but also when you look at like game one and game two now, 06:41:12.400 --> 06:41:15.100 you're definitely heavily calibrating to strong lanes, 06:41:15.200 --> 06:41:17.300 but also being able to fight into the enemy team. 06:41:17.400 --> 06:41:19.400 Like when games end at 20 minutes, you're not going to be like, 06:41:19.400 --> 06:41:25.880 Oh, we need more late game or like delay. You need to be able to have good lanes and like fight into the early enemy moves that the enemy team has 06:41:25.960 --> 06:41:29.920 So that's that will be one of like my points for both teams going into the third game 06:41:31.200 --> 06:41:36.800 It sounds so simple it does it does we've seen some win. Yeah, just win just don't lose 06:41:36.800 --> 06:41:42.320 A lot of teams did go for like I think a lot of teams prepped to play the longer series as well 06:41:42.320 --> 06:41:46.980 And a lot of teams forgot that you can actually play faster Dota and these teams are showing this 06:41:46.980 --> 06:41:50.700 So maybe bang out the heroes that can actually fight that can skirmish early on. 06:41:50.700 --> 06:41:55.380 Yep, very curious to see how this one develops. Game number three on the other side of the break. 06:42:46.980 --> 06:43:09.860 Hey guys, we're getting going before I turn into Ducks. 06:43:09.860 --> 06:43:10.900 Thank you very much. 06:43:16.980 --> 06:43:23.980 Here's my dad. 06:43:23.980 --> 06:43:30.980 Here is my dad. 06:43:30.980 --> 06:43:32.980 Oh! 06:43:32.980 --> 06:43:34.980 Oh, shit! 06:43:34.980 --> 06:43:36.980 Oh! 06:43:36.980 --> 06:43:38.980 Oh, shit! 06:43:38.980 --> 06:43:40.980 Oh! 06:43:40.980 --> 06:43:42.980 Okay. 06:43:42.980 --> 06:43:44.980 Don't go up the high ground. 06:43:44.980 --> 06:43:45.480 No! 06:43:45.980 --> 06:43:46.480 No! 06:43:52.480 --> 06:43:52.980 No! 06:43:53.480 --> 06:43:54.480 Don't go behind him! 06:43:54.980 --> 06:43:55.480 No! 06:43:55.980 --> 06:43:56.480 No! 06:45:44.980 --> 06:45:54.980 Oh my gosh! That guy's so good! Oh, this is just a mirror! A long mirror! 06:45:54.980 --> 06:45:56.980 Fact! Oh my gosh! 06:45:56.980 --> 06:46:00.980 We won't take the seat, everybody. Today we'll be less shriveling on the beat. 06:46:14.980 --> 06:46:19.780 You need less to say on the falling 06:46:19.780 --> 06:46:23.780 And you don't have a clue 06:46:23.780 --> 06:46:26.780 Some of the words might be me 06:46:26.780 --> 06:46:30.780 And my thought ain't made me lie 06:46:30.780 --> 06:46:32.780 Blue, blue skies when I see you 06:46:32.780 --> 06:46:34.280 I'm not a bad guy! 06:46:35.280 --> 06:46:36.780 I'm a mean guy! 06:46:36.780 --> 06:46:38.780 I'm a dangerous guy! 06:46:39.280 --> 06:46:40.780 Not a bad guy! 06:46:52.780 --> 06:46:54.280 I'm a prince! 06:47:02.780 --> 06:47:05.780 Don't let me go 06:47:05.780 --> 06:47:08.780 Hold me till I'm lonely 06:47:08.780 --> 06:47:12.780 Hold me till I'm lonely 06:47:12.780 --> 06:47:15.780 Hold me until I'm lonely 06:47:15.780 --> 06:47:16.780 Don't let me go 06:47:16.780 --> 06:47:19.780 Don't let me go 06:47:25.780 --> 06:47:28.780 Don't let me go 06:47:32.780 --> 06:47:57.880 You and I got something together, it's so hard to feed a feeding like this, it's never 06:47:57.880 --> 06:48:04.880 I guess it's on another level going round my head when I'm with you 06:48:04.880 --> 06:48:08.880 Gonna set me off and watch it shine 06:48:08.880 --> 06:48:11.880 Come on and chase that dream and feel it 06:48:16.880 --> 06:48:18.880 Upper Bracket Finals! 06:48:18.880 --> 06:48:24.880 Two of the top three teams here at Greenleague Season 29 are playing against each other 06:48:24.880 --> 06:48:26.880 and of course it goes to Game Number 3 06:48:26.880 --> 06:48:33.560 It's just a very different style of game than what we've seen over the last couple of days because 06:48:33.960 --> 06:48:38.560 The average game we've seen over the last three days been very long. We've had some 06:48:39.640 --> 06:48:41.640 Incredibly long games, but these two teams 06:48:41.920 --> 06:48:46.460 They're not about that life. They get the advantage. They close 25 minutes. That's it 06:48:47.040 --> 06:48:51.240 Yeah, cuz these two teams, they're good. They know how to play 06:48:51.240 --> 06:48:54.800 Unlike the others. Yeah, I've got it once we don't talk about them, but these two they're good 06:48:54.800 --> 06:48:56.200 Yeah 06:48:56.200 --> 06:49:01.160 Back to me. Yeah, back to me. Yeah, we've seen some other teams also, you know, stalling it out 06:49:01.400 --> 06:49:05.560 We talked about the other power to hear your opinion as well in senior about 06:49:06.080 --> 06:49:09.440 Potential buyback situation you think we should cap buybacks 06:49:09.440 --> 06:49:14.440 Maybe have like one or two max per game to speed things up. We have that on home. We had like a two 06:49:14.440 --> 06:49:16.440 Oh, maybe now then yeah, I'm like 06:49:20.200 --> 06:49:21.160 Maybe don't do that 06:49:21.160 --> 06:49:27.000 I think if we are going off the premise of these are good teams and they don't need all those buybacks 06:49:27.000 --> 06:49:29.000 And they don't have the games go to 90 minutes 06:49:29.800 --> 06:49:33.080 Then apparently we don't think it's wrong with the game. They just 06:49:35.080 --> 06:49:36.600 Yeah, it's just a player's fault 06:49:36.600 --> 06:49:39.320 We weren't enjoying the 90 minute game because 06:49:41.640 --> 06:49:47.640 It was maybe not if every single game is 90 minute game. They're like 1920 1920. That sounds cool 06:49:47.640 --> 06:49:54.680 I bring 1990 90s if you have to choose only long games or only short games only you choose 06:49:54.680 --> 06:49:59.800 I would choose this foot exactly I would choose this foot that's a leg that's his leg 06:49:59.800 --> 06:50:07.300 that's his leg but I like it that's a shin no it looks like his like yeah yeah yeah 06:50:07.300 --> 06:50:13.360 this is the shin yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay yeah we got that fix so that's good yeah so 06:50:13.360 --> 06:50:17.920 So speaking of Needs, Pahri's best hero I think this tournament so far has been Kez 06:50:17.920 --> 06:50:18.920 when it comes to Zaytaniq. 06:50:18.920 --> 06:50:23.560 He seems to be playing it every single game as far as I've seen. 06:50:23.560 --> 06:50:25.360 And they prioritized it highly. 06:50:25.360 --> 06:50:28.680 We went back by the way for Team Spirit, they banned out the Coddle Weave, so we went back 06:50:28.680 --> 06:50:31.240 to Pahri, vision having first pick. 06:50:31.240 --> 06:50:33.680 So this is their least comfortable position in the draft. 06:50:33.680 --> 06:50:38.520 I think this means, okay, also sometimes it's very insane to Zay, but sometimes teams have 06:50:38.520 --> 06:50:43.240 like a very clear draft preference and a series will literally come down to which 06:50:43.240 --> 06:50:46.520 team gets the coin flip in terms of getting the better draft for game 3 and 06:50:46.520 --> 06:50:49.800 I think I assume this means spirit woman points out because I don't see a world 06:50:49.800 --> 06:50:53.480 in which party oh you can see that it said early they chose the second pick 06:50:53.480 --> 06:50:59.080 distance okay okay cool if they respect the doom I even though they have a 06:50:59.080 --> 06:51:02.640 slaughter I still felt you can still slaughter them slaughter from the 06:51:02.640 --> 06:51:06.560 mid lane dark mago had an insanely good slaughter game maybe you might need to 06:51:06.560 --> 06:51:12.000 see slightly more because of the matchup, but I know you don't like too much to see 06:51:12.000 --> 06:51:16.360 Lich, but I'm a big fan, especially against Slaughter, damage reduction, he's all about 06:51:16.360 --> 06:51:21.080 that physical, even early one point in it, it's also one of the better laning partners 06:51:21.080 --> 06:51:22.080 with Kiz. 06:51:22.080 --> 06:51:27.080 I will say, I like Lich in situations like this, when he has purpose, which I think you 06:51:27.080 --> 06:51:30.360 do against Slaughter, it's obviously like a very strong hero, it makes your laning phase 06:51:30.360 --> 06:51:35.160 quite good, and in that way I think it's like, it makes a lot of sense already. 06:51:35.160 --> 06:51:37.660 It's also not a hero that you really want to waste a ban on if you're spirit. 06:51:37.660 --> 06:51:42.160 I think you're kind of considering more, how to say, more crucial heroes to draft. 06:51:42.160 --> 06:51:45.160 I don't think it falls into that category for them. 06:51:45.160 --> 06:51:49.660 It's also interesting, like what they did in game two where we talked about they banned all the subs. 06:51:49.660 --> 06:51:54.160 Like, they first picked Kes and these are not like, they're not protecting bans for your hero. 06:51:54.160 --> 06:51:57.660 This is more like, we're playing against Spirit, we're gonna take out your supports again, 06:51:57.660 --> 06:52:00.660 and like, Satanic will play into any matchup. 06:52:00.660 --> 06:52:03.160 You know, whether it's AX, Sardar, Doom, that's just life. 06:52:03.160 --> 06:52:08.520 You know they're all gonna be they're all gonna do this stuff, which is whatever and I think it also speaks like for them 06:52:08.520 --> 06:52:11.200 And like for his own confidence where he's like I can play bird 06:52:11.200 --> 06:52:13.800 You know ban around it pick around it will make it happen 06:52:14.040 --> 06:52:17.800 And I think that's what they realized in the last game, but they don't need perfect games for their heroes 06:52:17.800 --> 06:52:23.920 They don't they don't need call to have all these comps. They just need call. Yeah, they need heroes where they're comfortable where they can outskill their opponents 06:52:23.920 --> 06:52:28.000 I mean the calls even talks about it like we are some of the best mechanically skilled players in the world 06:52:28.000 --> 06:52:33.000 And in order to be those things they need to be on their heroes, otherwise they won't be able to do that. 06:52:33.000 --> 06:52:37.000 Well, they can get caught all, but they can get Nix's Ascension for now. 06:52:37.000 --> 06:52:38.000 Yeah, they can. 06:52:38.000 --> 06:52:39.000 Highly likely to get banned, I think. 06:52:39.000 --> 06:52:40.000 Yeah. 06:52:40.000 --> 06:52:41.000 But then they can get Huskar. 06:52:41.000 --> 06:52:50.000 It got banned in that first game when they picked Snapfire overall, so it got banned on 12, because it's just a hero that ruins Snapfire. 06:52:50.000 --> 06:52:54.000 We saw like two different approaches to mid-Snapfire from the support role. 06:52:54.000 --> 06:52:57.920 support role, one in silencer so you never get the kisses off, the second one is Nix's 06:52:57.920 --> 06:53:00.160 assassin who just walks in and stops it. 06:53:00.160 --> 06:53:07.160 I mean, I think for sure, for spare, right now the conversation is surrounding Nix. 06:53:07.160 --> 06:53:11.600 I wonder what the other hero is that you would potentially want to let through, or if the 06:53:11.600 --> 06:53:15.520 debate is that like, Yatora will get such a free game, if the play is a Nix, then we 06:53:15.520 --> 06:53:16.520 should do it anyway. 06:53:16.520 --> 06:53:21.800 But I think if that is the conversation, like it's Nix, we can counter it, you know, 06:53:21.800 --> 06:53:27.860 I think that is probably not a good decision to make but to let it go through. I don't think you should let's fix it there 06:53:30.560 --> 06:53:35.760 I also like what they did on side of par vision in the second game because they picked a lot of these 06:53:36.200 --> 06:53:40.940 heroes who have ways of dealing with Yatra a lot of the times team spirit there is 06:53:41.480 --> 06:53:47.980 Yatra is gonna be pop net he's gonna be yeah 10k ahead of pretty much everybody else and then you had Beastmaster 06:53:47.980 --> 06:53:50.420 You had global silence and you had Viper Strike 06:53:50.420 --> 06:53:55.740 So a lot of these abilities that you really hate to play into and you can't really 1v5 06:53:55.740 --> 06:53:57.840 Even if you get hit by one of those alties 06:53:58.840 --> 06:54:05.500 It's like the anti-exodia hero. Yes, it's pretty nice to have those against the king himself. You do need vkb piercing stuns 06:54:07.620 --> 06:54:11.380 Trans also out I think it's phenomenal every single game I think 06:54:12.220 --> 06:54:13.380 so 06:54:13.380 --> 06:54:17.700 They kind of I think eliminate a lot of like third heroes for your throw when they do this 06:54:17.980 --> 06:54:22.980 Spirit Goat Lich, I think to some degree this is preventative as well. They think if they don't take it now 06:54:22.980 --> 06:54:25.280 They're probably not gonna get it. So they pick it here 06:54:26.580 --> 06:54:30.300 Again, I I feel like the thing with Spirit is they have two plus four players 06:54:30.300 --> 06:54:34.580 Like I'm not saying Lich is a bad hero, but I just don't love Lich for them 06:54:34.580 --> 06:54:39.980 I feel like I like it more if Rue is playing something that is more similar to what he used to play and because of all these bands 06:54:39.980 --> 06:54:43.380 He has but he doesn't have those options would mix out like he's out 06:54:43.380 --> 06:54:53.380 No, it's true. I mean obviously he can't play but I agree with you because sometimes it's also you can feel it as a player when you keep getting your heroes and like they feel amazing. 06:54:53.380 --> 06:55:01.380 And then suddenly when it really matters like a team figures out like okay if we put these bands you know maybe some guy is like slightly uncomfortable even if it's one small mistake. 06:55:01.380 --> 06:55:09.380 So I do think it matters a lot but at least for the game it is a very good lich pick like with the slaughter against the castle. You should still feel good about it. 06:55:09.380 --> 06:55:15.680 And they wanted to find something that is very good against this Slardar, and it's gonna be Wyvern. 06:55:15.680 --> 06:55:19.480 This is something that they utilized really well at the start of the tournament. 06:55:19.480 --> 06:55:26.680 It is a hero that also sways a lot of matchups, especially in the laning stage because of the heal that you have. 06:55:26.680 --> 06:55:29.880 A lot of the times you don't have that damage. 06:55:29.880 --> 06:55:36.680 Like we're talking about level 1 heal, which is 160 plus percentage of your max HP, which brings it up to like 200-ish. 06:55:36.680 --> 06:55:43.120 And you don't have that extra damage to kill it early on so you're kind of winning the lane just by having this hero in the lane 06:55:43.120 --> 06:55:45.520 And it feels really nice to just split up the thing 06:55:45.520 --> 06:55:50.040 So I want to see how they're gonna be approaching this one because right now you have chain frost 06:55:50.040 --> 06:55:52.320 Which could be the setup once somebody gets healed 06:55:52.320 --> 06:55:56.960 But I would also love to see some extra bit of the damage you might be getting your grim stroke in this 06:55:56.960 --> 06:56:00.760 Grim stroke at this one. I think there's a possibility. Yeah, it's it's overall 06:56:00.760 --> 06:56:05.840 It's a good hero with slaughter you you kind of double chain frost not like you're really playing for but soulbite 06:56:05.840 --> 06:56:09.940 Very good against these heroes. He also you want magical damage into winter wyvern 06:56:09.940 --> 06:56:16.260 This is another hero that they have played a few times not me looked pretty good on this one. Yeah, not me 06:56:16.700 --> 06:56:18.700 But then who no one 06:56:19.100 --> 06:56:21.100 No, it has to be someone. It's not me 06:56:22.180 --> 06:56:26.860 So is it a calls? Yeah, it's a call sec. He was really good. He's back right and unranked the slabs 06:56:27.260 --> 06:56:31.140 Keep it up everyone. Very well done. Very well done. We got pango coming out 06:56:31.340 --> 06:56:35.340 Why why did they not go for the next assassin? They feel like it that would be too predictable 06:56:35.840 --> 06:56:42.520 Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what it is. There must be some something here where either like they've scrimmed each other and 06:56:42.860 --> 06:56:46.720 Spirit know how's like a guaranteed answer to it or for whatever reason 06:56:47.840 --> 06:56:51.880 My class has a read that like this isn't the time to do it. He sees some flaw with it 06:56:51.880 --> 06:56:56.540 Isn't it good? Now it could be a good time to pick it up against you have a lot of 06:56:57.240 --> 06:57:01.440 Uncontrollable damage there's always gonna be damage on the ground from doom from that rider 06:57:01.680 --> 06:57:05.040 It could feel really nice and they might need a guy that also 06:57:05.840 --> 06:57:06.840 runs in. 06:57:06.840 --> 06:57:11.840 Yeah, well I think this was one of the choices that they have to make, because you know Slaughter 06:57:11.840 --> 06:57:17.100 is mid, you could go like QWOP or Viper, you will trade the fact that 9-Clash is going 06:57:17.100 --> 06:57:22.600 to get two more bans shot into his face, but it is a very good Viper game. 06:57:22.600 --> 06:57:35.440 I'm sure he can play anything, but preferably I think Spirit would like to play Doom of 06:57:35.440 --> 06:57:39.360 flaying and slot down a bit but now I think it opens up possibilities where 06:57:39.360 --> 06:57:44.240 maybe you should swap it somewhere else like I agree and I said most of the 06:57:44.240 --> 06:57:48.600 time some teams do like these kinds of stuff I I feel like it usually hurts them 06:57:48.600 --> 06:57:51.320 more than helps them but in this particular case I feel like if they put 06:57:51.320 --> 06:57:55.140 Slaughter at the Viper mid and he gets absolutely annihilated there's a Viper, a 06:57:55.140 --> 06:58:00.040 switch and like a bat or sorry a lich a bat and a Slaughter it's just I don't 06:58:00.040 --> 06:58:02.760 nothing's gonna happen you're gonna doom on one side and you're gonna pick your 06:58:02.760 --> 06:58:03.880 for another hard carry? 06:58:03.880 --> 06:58:04.380 Yes. 06:58:04.380 --> 06:58:07.600 And then you just essentially have a draft that can't do anything at all? 06:58:07.600 --> 06:58:09.320 I have the answer. 06:58:09.320 --> 06:58:14.720 They've saved Peruvians last support for their last game. 06:58:14.720 --> 06:58:18.160 No second to last game, but it's going to be a new one. 06:58:18.160 --> 06:58:19.720 One that we have never seen before. 06:58:19.720 --> 06:58:21.920 This is the time to bring it out. 06:58:21.920 --> 06:58:23.400 We just don't know yet. 06:58:23.400 --> 06:58:24.960 It's going to be glorious. 06:58:24.960 --> 06:58:26.880 Thank you for sharing your insights with us here. 06:58:26.880 --> 06:58:27.720 It will happen. 06:58:27.720 --> 06:58:29.400 I'm very welcome. 06:58:29.400 --> 06:58:36.620 I'm just thinking maybe some like PL that could come out for Yattaro, you know, and this one there's a 06:58:38.840 --> 06:58:42.000 Could be very annoying for Wyvern could be very annoying for Viper 06:58:43.000 --> 06:58:49.040 I the all the heroes that come to mind for me because PL is fine, but it's not it's not hitting the spot for me 06:58:49.040 --> 06:58:51.560 I'm looking at like something more active 06:58:52.440 --> 06:58:57.600 I'm looking at like a range hero like either you can you can go slaughter safely and pick a new range 06:58:57.600 --> 06:59:00.600 Maybe it's like some, you know, Sneaborn, Mr. Sniper. 06:59:00.600 --> 06:59:04.600 But there's also other ones where maybe there's what you can suck it up with the Sardar myth. 06:59:04.600 --> 06:59:06.600 I don't love that idea at all. 06:59:06.600 --> 06:59:08.600 But then maybe you go like Drowranger last bit. 06:59:08.600 --> 06:59:14.600 I think like a turret hero that's good, you know, Batrider's gonna drag a guy in, you want to kill people in like Doom. 06:59:14.600 --> 06:59:16.600 And they don't have the best reach. 06:59:16.600 --> 06:59:20.600 Well, like, I mean, Parry have reach, but if they overreach, I think they all die on their heroes. 06:59:20.600 --> 06:59:22.600 But let's see what they can cook. 06:59:22.600 --> 06:59:26.680 cook I mean I think for like the minute you like assume everything's fine yeah 06:59:26.680 --> 06:59:34.300 xd yeah but there's not any face my dog Marcy I hate to tell you guys told so 06:59:34.300 --> 06:59:38.000 but you were right that's why you're here tell us that's why they pay you the 06:59:38.000 --> 06:59:43.480 big books and when they double save double saving support that can look very 06:59:43.480 --> 06:59:48.720 good whoever gets initiated on especially against doom they I kind of like 06:59:48.720 --> 06:59:54.560 this because wyvern doesn't really save you from doom but you can push somebody out you can pick 06:59:54.560 --> 06:59:58.880 them up and throw them away so it could be really good pick up here. I mean it's also now I feel 06:59:58.880 --> 07:00:03.840 like suddenly you have to think about it could be potentially marsy viper off lane and this is a 07:00:03.840 --> 07:00:09.760 toxic lane like these two I remember when marsy was first released this was like a v lane you picked 07:00:09.760 --> 07:00:14.640 it in pops and the back that marsy did have like max range w from level one so she was a different 07:00:14.640 --> 07:00:17.480 for Nero for sure but like it was really toxic to play. 07:00:17.480 --> 07:00:18.480 Napper! 07:00:18.480 --> 07:00:20.280 Okay, so they will do... 07:00:20.280 --> 07:00:23.720 I wonder if they just put Penguin now and put Viber off it. 07:00:23.720 --> 07:00:24.720 Yeah. 07:00:24.720 --> 07:00:25.720 Yeah. 07:00:25.720 --> 07:00:29.800 It, this makes sense in my opinion for both sides. 07:00:29.800 --> 07:00:33.480 Like it's good that Spirit went for this to like swap it up and then it's at the same 07:00:33.480 --> 07:00:37.400 time it's just smart of Parry to then also make the swap up. 07:00:37.400 --> 07:00:41.200 I'm not talking about draft the Terrier as a whole but it's like whatever this last 07:00:41.200 --> 07:00:46.780 was it kind of got I feel like party kind of got got the spirit of it yeah again 07:00:46.780 --> 07:00:51.780 they have these abilities that go through debuff immunity super annoying spells 07:00:51.780 --> 07:00:55.700 so somebody who's close they could just kill them relatively easy with this 07:00:55.700 --> 07:01:02.900 wyvern and also notice the viper plus Marcy it's a super strong way so while 07:01:02.900 --> 07:01:06.980 sniper is up against the melee hero like pangol's innate like there's 50% chance 07:01:06.980 --> 07:01:09.980 you don't actually head head shot it I know that when this when sniper was 07:01:09.980 --> 07:01:11.980 Gigamatter like one or one and a half years ago. 07:01:11.980 --> 07:01:13.480 Orton favours the alt. 07:01:13.480 --> 07:01:16.480 He was like one of the minions that can actually do fine in this matchup. 07:01:16.480 --> 07:01:18.980 I actually like both drafts a lot. 07:01:18.980 --> 07:01:21.980 I don't know if I prefer one that much over the other. 07:01:21.980 --> 07:01:24.480 I think there's a lot of gameplay that will go into it. 07:01:24.480 --> 07:01:27.480 I can see the mid game for sure, for Spirit where they get a good jump, 07:01:27.480 --> 07:01:29.980 you take one guy out, you do some pango before spells 07:01:29.980 --> 07:01:32.480 and suddenly Pahri have like a really weird teamfight 07:01:32.480 --> 07:01:36.480 and because you're offlaner is a viper, but they have really good lanes. 07:01:36.480 --> 07:01:40.080 I think this one is going to be longer and way more gameplay driven than the other games. 07:01:40.080 --> 07:01:45.080 It's not going to be as one sided as we've seen in the game 1. 07:01:45.080 --> 07:01:48.080 Is it going to compare to Frank's bike? 07:01:48.080 --> 07:01:50.080 I was saying that very hard. 07:01:50.080 --> 07:01:52.080 That is the S-17 Zero Viper. 07:01:52.080 --> 07:01:54.080 That's a game point. 07:01:56.080 --> 07:01:58.080 We don't talk about the last 10 minutes. 07:01:58.080 --> 07:02:00.080 I feel like I'm going to be glued on the Marcy. 07:02:00.080 --> 07:02:03.080 I think his movements in the early game are going to be like almost everything. 07:02:03.080 --> 07:02:06.920 There's one side of that, and the other side of Marcy, one guy likes to farm, and one guy likes to rotate, so... 07:02:06.920 --> 07:02:11.240 How does Marcy deal in terms of the things, other than like the movement speed things, 07:02:11.240 --> 07:02:12.240 we're talking about earlier? 07:02:12.240 --> 07:02:17.120 I mean, I think in this game he has possibilities of running mid, I'm killing Sniper, you have possibilities of killing Doom. 07:02:17.120 --> 07:02:21.840 There's a lot of like, play possibilities, and you have like, a lot of areas where you can connect, 07:02:21.840 --> 07:02:25.240 and I think you have pretty easy kills, if you climb it correctly, it can land at the right time. 07:02:25.240 --> 07:02:27.280 Which is my class district. 07:02:27.280 --> 07:02:33.040 Sounds like it's a hero that should fit his wheelhouse, should be comfortable for them, which is important as well. 07:02:33.040 --> 07:02:38.040 And a more even game than the two we've had so far, I think we're all down for that. 07:02:38.040 --> 07:02:44.040 Well, let's see who comes out on top, let's see which one of these 13s will be the first to point their ticket into the grand finals. 07:02:44.040 --> 07:02:46.040 We're heading over to Audi Pixel and folk. 07:03:33.040 --> 07:03:46.040 Let's see what we get going on here for with that two one-sided advance. 07:03:46.040 --> 07:03:51.040 We've got a 27 minute victory and a 25 minute victory is pretty unheard of. 07:03:51.040 --> 07:03:54.040 It's not going to hurt if you play off the dream this year, 29. 07:03:54.040 --> 07:03:56.040 We've been having some long ones. 07:03:56.040 --> 07:03:58.040 Well, let's see what goes down then. 07:03:58.040 --> 07:04:00.040 It didn't happen at this time. 07:04:00.040 --> 07:04:04.960 You know in the back. I mean it's a different affair. I say it's all flamed by but this time around is quite necessary in the mid 07:04:05.640 --> 07:04:10.560 You're scaring without a shadow of a doubt. We're gonna get 30 minutes more than 30 minutes of doubt at this time 07:04:10.560 --> 07:04:14.960 I will say 40 plus. I will immediately say 40 plus. I'll say 35 plus 07:04:14.960 --> 07:04:16.960 I think there's much more 07:04:17.120 --> 07:04:19.120 Voltaudian's gonna be much more up to this gameplay 07:04:19.120 --> 07:04:23.920 I think nine class absolutely has potential to be able to do some type of snowball plays get some early aggression 07:04:23.920 --> 07:04:28.040 But there is a sniper on one side. They have great ways to hold towers with the lich as well too 07:04:28.040 --> 07:04:34.520 So overall for spirit, I think they can absolutely delay and very fast their heroes to scale well for paravision very strong lane set ups again 07:04:34.560 --> 07:04:36.560 Looks like they are trying to start with an advantage 07:04:39.600 --> 07:04:41.520 Stop playing 07:04:41.520 --> 07:04:44.560 If they can get the chance to surprise you Toro, but what the case? 07:04:44.560 --> 07:04:47.320 They didn't find a chance to anything but three of them so to college 07:04:47.320 --> 07:04:53.040 We'll head down to bottom lane make sure he's able to help say panic out. I'm happy. We actually get Marcy 07:04:53.040 --> 07:04:57.640 I'll be honest with you. We've not seen any of it. No from oh, no, I think there's one game, right? 07:04:57.640 --> 07:04:59.360 I don't think the stat was 0-1. 07:04:59.360 --> 07:04:59.860 Okay. 07:04:59.860 --> 07:05:01.360 So somebody else played it here? 07:05:01.360 --> 07:05:05.600 I don't know if the hero is in the absolute best position, or in the, you know, as you 07:05:05.600 --> 07:05:09.840 see some of these other supports are just super insanely busted right now, but I do 07:05:09.840 --> 07:05:11.680 want to see people trying other things too. 07:05:11.680 --> 07:05:15.240 It sucks if it doesn't work, of course, but there's always some fun potential with this 07:05:15.240 --> 07:05:16.240 hero. 07:05:16.240 --> 07:05:19.920 Bodyguard, I think, is still kind of unused, because I don't think many people know what 07:05:19.920 --> 07:05:23.360 he does in general, and I think Special Delivery has some fun stuff too, and these couriers, 07:05:23.360 --> 07:05:25.800 you can always make some fun things happen with faster couriers, or even so. 07:05:25.800 --> 07:05:29.120 We'll see how these lanes do go down, but yeah, I think collapse in general 07:05:29.120 --> 07:05:30.080 He's gonna have a good lane 07:05:30.080 --> 07:05:33.620 He is this bat rider versus the cast share the wyvern it can be annoying in the mid game 07:05:33.620 --> 07:05:35.880 But does feel like it's gonna be a much better game for him 07:05:37.400 --> 07:05:43.040 Yeah, one game that we did have Marcy was there's some scofield Mars. Oh, wow look at that 07:05:43.560 --> 07:05:49.160 Did lose the game though quite horrific. That was an RV 18 plates. I'm 31 to 8 07:05:49.160 --> 07:05:50.960 It's a pretty volatile hero 07:05:50.960 --> 07:05:57.700 However, it does have some pretty incredible potential of saving as well, which I know we do like to see right you can either rebound in 07:05:57.700 --> 07:05:58.980 rebound out 07:05:58.980 --> 07:06:02.060 Very nice, but mainly really gets hold on class 07:06:04.200 --> 07:06:05.200 He's 07:06:05.200 --> 07:06:10.020 Yeah, he's going down. This is gonna be first blood for Yatora ideally for spirit. Yep 07:06:10.020 --> 07:06:15.080 They get that for Yatora last touch on that Yatora didn't even go inferno, but he actually went for the devourer 07:06:15.080 --> 07:06:18.360 So there's actually chance that he could have maybe tried for something like a TP event 07:06:18.360 --> 07:06:20.680 But it was after the pull, but probably not anyway, so. 07:06:20.680 --> 07:06:22.180 Ice Armor now, Clem 3-Yotaro. 07:06:22.680 --> 07:06:24.880 We'll be able to trade a bit better versus that Viper. 07:06:24.880 --> 07:06:26.780 But Viper overall noticed setup for success, 07:06:26.780 --> 07:06:28.280 that's why they did switch up this lane matchup, 07:06:28.280 --> 07:06:30.780 and because, you know, they wanted to have this... 07:06:30.980 --> 07:06:33.820 to shut something down rather than a Viper, just versus Viper. 07:06:33.980 --> 07:06:36.980 Sherpangles might suffer a little bit, but does Pangle even suffer? 07:06:38.360 --> 07:06:39.360 That should be right. 07:06:39.360 --> 07:06:41.360 Since the not-sufferable situation is true. 07:06:41.360 --> 07:06:42.620 Bawderm pretty well. 07:06:43.720 --> 07:06:46.860 Ice Armor is pretty annoying to hit into early. 07:06:46.860 --> 07:06:48.860 can't fully chase forward through the ledge 07:06:48.860 --> 07:06:51.860 yeah it's difficult to get those poison stacks up on them 07:06:52.860 --> 07:06:56.860 remember when this ability was the most broken ability in the game for so long 07:06:56.860 --> 07:06:58.860 it used to be like a armor level 1 07:06:58.860 --> 07:07:01.860 now it's thankfully only a 4 armor in particular but 07:07:03.860 --> 07:07:06.860 and how much does it sort of matter 07:07:06.860 --> 07:07:10.860 for Spirit that obviously you should say you know they pick the sniper to try and force the 07:07:10.860 --> 07:07:14.860 or at least get the match against the Viper obviously Paragraph isn't reacted by making the switch up 07:07:14.860 --> 07:07:21.940 Mm-hmm. Does that make the sniper pick that much weaker or is it still okay the draft from spirit around the sniper? 07:07:22.100 --> 07:07:27.240 Even though he now no longer has that kind of immediate reason for the hero in the matchup minutes 07:07:28.360 --> 07:07:29.220 That's a good question 07:07:29.220 --> 07:07:35.220 Maybe a little bit weaker in particular but can see reasons why it can also fit because they do have the doom carry 07:07:35.220 --> 07:07:39.380 So it's not like you're only reliant on the sniper you have a slaughter as well too 07:07:39.380 --> 07:07:42.100 So your physical scaling is high in terms of later stages 07:07:42.100 --> 07:07:47.100 So maybe slightly, but I can absolutely see how Sniper can do great in this match-up because he has the corrosive haze to back him up. 07:07:52.100 --> 07:07:53.100 Bottom line. 07:07:55.100 --> 07:07:56.100 Sigtanik. 07:07:57.100 --> 07:07:59.100 Just to see if you can maybe bring Collaps down. 07:08:00.100 --> 07:08:01.100 The Echo Slash. 07:08:01.100 --> 07:08:02.100 You should have him. 07:08:02.100 --> 07:08:03.100 And indeed Collaps. 07:08:03.100 --> 07:08:06.100 You didn't have a crush off, but he'll fall. 07:08:06.100 --> 07:08:08.100 Not me, might be in trouble as well. 07:08:08.100 --> 07:08:11.940 Couple of stacks up one Stagtanic, so he doesn't want to commit on to this, to call this. 07:08:11.940 --> 07:08:14.340 As you get taken down, not me actually. 07:08:14.340 --> 07:08:18.660 He's trying, he's got Stagtanic as well, but doesn't want to start tanking the tower heads. 07:08:18.660 --> 07:08:22.100 If he had, honestly, mana for one more Sticky, I think he dives through that. 07:08:22.100 --> 07:08:25.460 Isn't going to be able to get that though, but he's going to have a very good entry into this game, 07:08:25.460 --> 07:08:28.580 and he's not doing that thing. Like, as Sandy was mentioned, what's going to be, 07:08:28.580 --> 07:08:30.740 what's going to happen is it's going to be the Bat that sticks back to the farm, 07:08:30.740 --> 07:08:32.420 or is it the Marcy that's going to be playing aggressive? 07:08:32.420 --> 07:08:35.140 The Bat's going through the aggressibility, but you go through play break. 07:08:35.140 --> 07:08:41.140 So if it's the fire build, you go Firefly, if it's your playing more aggressive for the laning phase, you do put that point in that playbreak at level 2. 07:08:42.640 --> 07:08:46.640 Now who'll hold the point though, in case of a Firefly usage? This is a big creepway. 07:08:48.640 --> 07:08:50.640 I think they're trying to pressure the Kazmuth there. 07:08:50.640 --> 07:08:51.640 This could get painful. 07:08:51.640 --> 07:08:53.640 Low mana on not me, doesn't have it. 07:08:53.640 --> 07:08:56.640 Yeah, they have to bring TP in here, 9 class is going to come across. 07:08:56.640 --> 07:08:58.640 Now Collapse, they've got made it. 07:08:58.640 --> 07:09:03.640 Yeah, they might be able to turn out with the backup of the Marci and onto Collapse. 07:09:03.640 --> 07:09:09.640 They're gonna have him. So, as tempting as it was to put the pressure on around that Creeway pushing under the tower, 07:09:09.640 --> 07:09:12.640 Paraphasian were always going to be ready with the TP. 07:09:12.640 --> 07:09:17.640 Yeah, not me overall not having enough mana too. He did have the 6 or 7s when our 6 or 8 stacks it was, 07:09:17.640 --> 07:09:24.640 but ran out again to get that extra sticky onto the cast. That hurts collapse. Back to back, that's trying to go for an aggressive move. 07:09:24.640 --> 07:09:39.680 There's strong, very strong lanes again, but even though that sniper is in that pango 07:09:39.680 --> 07:09:45.200 matchup, it's actually the pango who is crushing it right now, 2600 net worth on no one somehow 07:09:45.200 --> 07:09:50.040 and Marl only has 1900. 07:09:50.040 --> 07:09:52.200 That's actually a monstrous difference. 07:09:52.200 --> 07:09:57.720 So the lane pulling the shenanigans that no one was actually the one doing is coming 07:09:57.720 --> 07:10:00.880 out incredibly beneficial for him. 07:10:00.880 --> 07:10:03.720 And they do have ways to dive onto this Nipah too with the Marci early. 07:10:03.720 --> 07:10:04.720 Yeah, with the pango. 07:10:04.720 --> 07:10:06.220 And with the two cores right here. 07:10:06.220 --> 07:10:07.220 Yeah. 07:10:07.220 --> 07:10:12.200 When Kess turns up to a fight, Nipah's going to be pretty scared. 07:10:12.200 --> 07:10:15.040 Pretty brutal start for them. 07:10:15.040 --> 07:10:17.440 Duel miss farming very well though in that matchup versus the Viper. 07:10:17.440 --> 07:10:20.160 So I think they're going to be hap- Yotaro's at least going to be happy, but it's- there's 07:10:20.160 --> 07:10:21.400 other two laners, not so much. 07:10:21.400 --> 07:10:27.440 they are setting up that trap for Laurel. No one trying to push the lane in. Won't be 07:10:27.440 --> 07:10:32.720 able to go for him though. And in terms of the build for Yatora, going for the Midas 07:10:32.720 --> 07:10:36.860 into Echo Yashin. So the old build that we used to see the dooms do, not the Radiance 07:10:36.860 --> 07:10:41.920 Titanic. Trying to get aggressive on Tumik can't hit her. Quite beatable too. Always 07:10:41.920 --> 07:10:48.040 hard to versus Winter Wyvern. That heal negates so much as well too, as a Slardar. Yeah, this 07:10:48.040 --> 07:10:50.040 This is an interesting build. We'll see if it ends up working. 07:10:50.040 --> 07:10:52.040 I think we should only radiance this build. 07:10:52.040 --> 07:10:54.040 I was gonna say, nowadays with the dunes, it's... 07:10:54.040 --> 07:10:56.040 I want to say it's every camera. 07:10:56.040 --> 07:10:58.040 Unless you find it's phased, drawn, off-lane, 07:10:58.040 --> 07:11:00.040 dune position. 07:11:00.040 --> 07:11:02.040 I can talk about why you like this build. 07:11:02.040 --> 07:11:04.040 They're contesting the wisdom. 07:11:04.040 --> 07:11:06.040 I want so much damage. 07:11:06.040 --> 07:11:08.040 Yeah, but a killer fell me. 07:11:08.040 --> 07:11:10.040 It's not a roll. 07:11:10.040 --> 07:11:12.040 We have to stop it with the crush. 07:11:12.040 --> 07:11:14.040 This is awkward for spirit. 07:11:14.040 --> 07:11:16.040 I'm gonna have a bash in a second, but you're getting no one off this. 07:11:16.040 --> 07:11:19.480 It's going to be pretty impossible. Rying Thunder's there. Collapsed. We're trying. 07:11:19.980 --> 07:11:21.480 They're bringing Sniper now. 07:11:21.980 --> 07:11:25.740 They can't get the Wisdom, but yet Ducales is having a walk in and get it himself. 07:11:26.140 --> 07:11:27.780 They're going to go for kills after him. 07:11:27.780 --> 07:11:30.380 He's going to brace himself as well, Ducales. He'll be able to live a little longer. 07:11:31.480 --> 07:11:35.780 When they get more from this, no one's going to look for not me under the tier two. 07:11:35.980 --> 07:11:38.180 He's got a spell to throw out soon. 07:11:38.180 --> 07:11:40.580 He's got a swashbuckle if he wants to go for it. He will. 07:11:40.580 --> 07:11:43.180 But we'll be off the mark. So, Lyle does get the cleanup. 07:11:43.340 --> 07:11:44.580 That's actually pretty heads up. 07:11:44.580 --> 07:11:50.300 Your versus Pango, it's almost impossible to contest versus like Pango and Monkey King, the two heroes that just dominate that wisdom. 07:11:50.300 --> 07:11:55.220 They come afterwards, they do end up losing it, but they get really good trade kills. That's actually pretty solid. 07:11:55.220 --> 07:11:59.760 So I'll mention this build because I think it's, I think I've seen Spirit do this like five times or so. 07:11:59.760 --> 07:12:05.360 They love to eat the Black Dragon early with the Shard and they play with this cleave on it. 07:12:05.360 --> 07:12:09.520 So I think that's potentially what Yotaro is looking at if he does do Midas, Echo Saber, 07:12:09.520 --> 07:12:15.480 Into getting that shard and he just eats black dragons and plays with that super crazy. Great bomb. Yeah 07:12:16.120 --> 07:12:21.300 Because I've seen I've seen collapse do it a couple times. I'm pretty sure I've seen nightfall do it once or twice 07:12:21.300 --> 07:12:25.280 Did you do it? Hey, can I don't know if they did it here? I've seen it in their pubs 07:12:26.120 --> 07:12:31.880 So we'll see if that is gonna be the approach. He does look for here because you do farm of certainly fast 07:12:34.240 --> 07:12:36.840 And I will see that approach that's worth as collapsed again 07:12:36.840 --> 07:12:38.840 He's gonna have him. He is struggling. 07:12:38.840 --> 07:12:40.840 Top lane. 07:12:40.840 --> 07:12:43.840 Gonna be able to make the move on the notice, but nine classes there to try and take him out. 07:12:43.840 --> 07:12:51.840 It's a safety with the rebound, but he'll still die to the doom, and nine classes ends up giving up his own life as well in that effort to save the Viper. 07:12:51.840 --> 07:12:54.840 And that is gonna be the Midas finished up for your Toro. 07:12:56.840 --> 07:12:59.840 I mean, his farm's gonna be super fast with this. 07:12:59.840 --> 07:13:02.840 And he's pretty nasty if you try and trade with him. 07:13:02.840 --> 07:13:04.840 He's gonna right click on. 07:13:04.840 --> 07:13:09.340 And he has the slaughter corrosive haze as well too, so focusing more on the... 07:13:09.340 --> 07:13:11.340 I'm trying to find extra reasons why. 07:13:11.340 --> 07:13:15.840 Focusing on full physical damage rather than just having to rely on like the radiance burn that comes around too. 07:13:15.840 --> 07:13:18.340 I'm curious to see this and if it's gonna work as well. 07:13:20.840 --> 07:13:24.840 And if it is what I'm thinking it is, but I think it is because I've seen them do it a couple times. 07:13:26.840 --> 07:13:32.840 I mean, there was definitely sort of that period where I felt like the right click doom was pretty rampant in pubs, right? 07:13:32.840 --> 07:13:36.840 Yeah, I know that Nightfall was playing it like every game pretty much for a while so. 07:13:36.840 --> 07:13:41.840 Because the damage can be crazy. Like you become a real right click beast. 07:13:42.840 --> 07:13:46.840 This is definitely going to be interesting. We'll see if those work. 07:13:46.840 --> 07:13:51.840 Laurel, big recovery for him right, mid matchups. He was somehow quite far behind quickly after the move bottom. 07:13:51.840 --> 07:13:56.840 He's going to be able to get a good benefit and he's going for Specialist Thuray on the Sniper too. 07:13:56.840 --> 07:14:01.840 So going for I would say like the farming item and this is, I Spirit is the ones that are trying to decide about the most from what I've seen. 07:14:01.840 --> 07:14:07.160 They did the Mask of Madness, disassembled play on Yatoro the other day when he was playing Shadow Fiend to get it too. 07:14:08.360 --> 07:14:09.560 Alright, cool. See if it works. 07:14:15.660 --> 07:14:18.680 Hmm, and I'm trying to, like, okay, so other reasons perhaps, like, 07:14:18.680 --> 07:14:20.820 because they're gonna build these mage slayers, right? 07:14:20.820 --> 07:14:26.020 Viper also very resistant to magic damage, so yeah, maybe more reasons why he wants to focus on physical. 07:14:26.020 --> 07:14:31.500 We do see though, noticed he is not going to be going mage flare with his build this 07:14:31.500 --> 07:14:32.500 game. 07:14:32.500 --> 07:14:34.260 He's actually just going straight for the hurricane pike for positioning. 07:14:34.260 --> 07:14:36.540 Did he play versus all that physical damage? 07:14:36.540 --> 07:14:39.540 Doesn't feel like it's necessary and they'll have one on their team anyway. 07:14:39.540 --> 07:14:40.540 Cool stuff. 07:14:40.540 --> 07:14:41.540 No mate. 07:14:41.540 --> 07:14:42.540 He's got to be careful. 07:14:42.540 --> 07:14:43.540 Statenac was looking for setup. 07:14:43.540 --> 07:14:44.540 Had nine class and Carlos behind him ready to back him up. 07:14:44.540 --> 07:14:45.540 It's getting pretty close on the numbers. 07:14:45.540 --> 07:14:46.540 Darl. 07:14:46.540 --> 07:14:47.540 Try to TP out. 07:14:47.540 --> 07:14:50.300 9 class and Carlos behind him ready to back him up 07:14:51.300 --> 07:14:53.300 It's getting pretty close on the numbers 07:14:54.320 --> 07:14:56.140 Tried to TP out 07:14:56.140 --> 07:15:00.280 But they had two options there ready to get him in time chain frost 07:15:01.980 --> 07:15:04.340 Not enough ounces to be pumped the cold embrace and route 07:15:05.100 --> 07:15:09.940 It's gonna get some TP back up coming in a half in I did no one another one 07:15:10.540 --> 07:15:12.540 Collapse can you get the trade? 07:15:12.540 --> 07:15:18.100 Kampup wants to know what will he make sure that they get something once another one but 07:15:18.100 --> 07:15:23.100 noticed his head has to be careful with his wife around collapse to stay hidden in the 07:15:23.100 --> 07:15:28.220 trees so a rule of three for one there favoring paravision get the better things out of these 07:15:28.220 --> 07:15:36.860 lanes and satanic top of the net worth he's having a super good time and easier for out 07:15:36.860 --> 07:15:41.660 say but satanic in particular to go for these kills constantly and help his team out while 07:15:41.660 --> 07:15:45.920 for collapse right sorry for Yatoro it's very specific I have to do him I might 07:15:45.920 --> 07:15:50.000 come join until he's got some items online so for paravision he's here to 07:15:50.000 --> 07:15:53.680 set up for these skills I would say in the early game not as cool down reliant 07:15:53.680 --> 07:15:59.960 and go through the portal it does get scanned good read there from spirit 07:16:02.840 --> 07:16:06.840 but not much closer things on terms of numbers as we're seeing 7 to 7 it's 07:16:06.840 --> 07:16:09.880 12 minutes in one can't lead at the moment for paravision 07:16:09.880 --> 07:16:15.480 Tower is not being pressured super early though. Last time we were already seeing the game potentially be over. 07:16:15.480 --> 07:16:17.480 And these blue bullets are... 07:16:17.480 --> 07:16:21.480 When he's this low mana, no low health. Yeah, they can get on top of him. 07:16:23.480 --> 07:16:27.880 They hit the jump, they're in with the ult, no fake him out, the support's doing the work then. 07:16:27.880 --> 07:16:29.880 Great move. 07:16:29.880 --> 07:16:39.480 Might lose the ward for it, because they jumped from the tree line, but should be able to get a tower I believe out of it as well too, so good aggressive play from 9th class here, no reaction from Spirit. 07:16:39.480 --> 07:16:42.680 So now he is going to be doing the farming thing, right? 07:16:42.680 --> 07:16:44.840 So instead of matching the Marci's movements, 07:16:44.840 --> 07:16:48.280 Batrider is going to try to maximize in terms of how much he can get on the map, 07:16:48.280 --> 07:16:50.840 even stealing the farm from the opposing side at night. 07:16:50.840 --> 07:16:52.840 Sometimes dangerous position. 07:16:58.840 --> 07:17:02.200 Immediately running up top, he will get the D-word instantly. 07:17:04.680 --> 07:17:06.680 So much harder for them to try for that one again. 07:17:06.680 --> 07:17:07.880 Oh, it's going to be a Toro. 07:17:09.480 --> 07:17:19.840 I just have a slight bit of a lead in the farm right now, paravision, as it is, much 07:17:19.840 --> 07:17:22.720 closer than the last two games were at this point. 07:17:22.720 --> 07:17:24.440 And Spirit, they do hit creeps quite quick, right? 07:17:24.440 --> 07:17:26.920 They have Devourer with one, and they have Doom who likes to hit creeps. 07:17:26.920 --> 07:17:30.280 They went Specialist, Ray on Sniper, we already mentioned the Batrider, what his design of 07:17:30.280 --> 07:17:31.280 play is too. 07:17:31.280 --> 07:17:35.520 So, Spirit, content with sitting back for a moment for that next item timing. 07:17:35.520 --> 07:17:37.600 They're gonna look to play with Yatoro with Doom available. 07:17:37.600 --> 07:17:39.600 They do up ulti's on the supports. 07:17:39.600 --> 07:17:42.600 Notice there's a pretty deep spot right now. 07:17:46.600 --> 07:17:50.600 They're gonna be able to get him off, gets doomed, chain frosted. 07:17:51.600 --> 07:17:53.600 Sassanated as well. 07:17:53.600 --> 07:17:55.600 Nine claps actually, this is a nice play from him. 07:17:55.600 --> 07:17:56.600 If he steps up, he dies as well. 07:17:56.600 --> 07:17:57.600 Collapsed. 07:17:57.600 --> 07:17:59.600 I don't want to stay tannic though in this bottom lane. 07:17:59.600 --> 07:18:01.600 Continues to get a lot here as the cares. 07:18:01.600 --> 07:18:02.600 Traits for Traits. 07:18:02.600 --> 07:18:04.600 Did Collapsed finish up the... 07:18:04.600 --> 07:18:05.600 He actually didn't. 07:18:05.600 --> 07:18:11.280 50 gold from Blink, I guess he went for the wave and got caught, which means also Satanic will 07:18:11.280 --> 07:18:15.440 be able to take away the wisdom with that move too, so some extra XP on top of that gold for 07:18:15.440 --> 07:18:20.880 paravision. It's Kaz, set up for a success in this game. Yeah, I mean there's a reason why they've 07:18:20.880 --> 07:18:25.680 gone for every single game in this series. Pretty ridiculous that it has been all three games that 07:18:25.680 --> 07:18:32.960 we do see Satanic wanting to play. I mean even in the game where they sort of got completely 07:18:32.960 --> 07:18:37.440 crush he was doing okay it was potential you know what i mean because of how much satanic was 07:18:37.440 --> 07:18:42.080 still able to get in that early stage of the game still being able to kind of get that 07:18:42.080 --> 07:18:48.320 axe deso amazingly online pre-25 minutes in a tough game so let me talk i was in game two what 07:18:48.320 --> 07:18:54.800 happens when they they're ahead and i think we're seeing again here in game three there's satanic 07:18:54.800 --> 07:19:00.240 very good at securing a solid start in the lane they're smoking for a move you're far off he is 07:19:00.240 --> 07:19:02.240 Yes, definitely death. 07:19:02.240 --> 07:19:04.240 Very easy dive here, full power vision. 07:19:04.240 --> 07:19:06.240 Natural movement into progression. 07:19:06.240 --> 07:19:09.240 Collapse does have blink fagger now on the side of spirit. 07:19:14.240 --> 07:19:17.240 I'm starting to slowly take over quite a bit here, power vision. 07:19:17.240 --> 07:19:21.240 Those two kills have been huge to limit the farm, especially for Laurel. 07:19:21.240 --> 07:19:24.240 He's recovering, then quickly dies. 07:19:25.240 --> 07:19:28.240 I need to find another graph here, not me. 07:19:28.240 --> 07:19:31.120 They are punishing the greed on the side of Paravision. 07:19:31.120 --> 07:19:34.400 They are just moving around the map, finding heroes over and over again now. 07:19:35.680 --> 07:19:37.760 Surely they've got to come instantly with the smoke. 07:19:39.120 --> 07:19:43.200 He's got the blink, he reveals it, gets over the tree line and say, 07:19:43.200 --> 07:19:44.480 Tanex, get ready to help out. 07:19:44.480 --> 07:19:45.600 Oh, she got the spire. 07:19:45.600 --> 07:19:49.200 Yeah, spire and a chain frost will deal with T'Kalis. 07:19:49.200 --> 07:19:52.880 Rue actually quite rich, able to buy this fire immediately at 15 minutes. 07:19:52.880 --> 07:19:55.600 That actually gives them quite a bit more kill threat on solo targets, 07:19:55.600 --> 07:19:57.840 because when I was looking at things, some of the kill threat is saying, 07:19:57.840 --> 07:19:58.840 TANNICK! 07:19:58.840 --> 07:20:01.120 Trying for the lead in on Collapse! 07:20:01.120 --> 07:20:05.720 They get it with a rebound and a great throwback into the ult there from TANNICK. 07:20:05.720 --> 07:20:07.700 They are making Collapse suffer this game. 07:20:07.700 --> 07:20:11.000 And TANNICK is absolutely popping off now. 07:20:11.000 --> 07:20:12.000 601. 07:20:12.000 --> 07:20:14.380 Having a beautiful star air as the KES. 07:20:14.380 --> 07:20:16.740 It goes for a bit of a different build himself. 07:20:16.740 --> 07:20:17.740 Oh! 07:20:17.740 --> 07:20:18.780 Another catch, 9-class potentially. 07:20:18.780 --> 07:20:21.920 And a tough one, but no one around. 07:20:21.920 --> 07:20:24.120 Might still not get anything though. 07:20:24.120 --> 07:20:26.060 There's the three of them under this here too. 07:20:26.060 --> 07:20:27.220 They'll kill off 9-class. 07:20:27.220 --> 07:20:28.820 That's pretty aggressive for all the white. 07:20:28.820 --> 07:20:34.020 Yeah, pretty aggressive move gets punished, and now there's no rolling thunder potentially for the move if we do see Spirit make one. 07:20:35.820 --> 07:20:36.620 Noticed. 07:20:37.720 --> 07:20:38.720 Hopefully not, mate. 07:20:38.720 --> 07:20:39.420 I am. 07:20:39.420 --> 07:20:40.920 He's gonna go for the TP out! 07:20:42.020 --> 07:20:43.220 Way too much damage. 07:20:44.220 --> 07:20:45.020 Collapse! 07:20:45.720 --> 07:20:46.820 They can fight this! 07:20:46.820 --> 07:20:47.820 To Carlos! 07:20:48.520 --> 07:20:49.420 The cold embrace! 07:20:49.420 --> 07:20:50.720 The assassin ain't for long! 07:20:51.220 --> 07:20:52.920 We're ready to take him out through it. 07:20:52.920 --> 07:20:54.320 His turret walks over just in case. 07:20:54.320 --> 07:20:56.720 Power and vision, we're gonna stick around, but they'll back off. 07:20:57.220 --> 07:21:02.880 And let's see what creep Yatoro is able to find overall here. 07:21:02.880 --> 07:21:06.580 Does have the shard finished up as well too, so has the two devour charges on top of things 07:21:06.580 --> 07:21:11.300 as well to continue getting that good farm, but not able to keep up with the Kaz. 07:21:11.300 --> 07:21:15.220 The way that he's getting all these kills, every single time, he's getting so much in 07:21:15.220 --> 07:21:16.220 this early game. 07:21:16.220 --> 07:21:18.220 Yeah, like how he's playing very aggressively here. 07:21:18.220 --> 07:21:22.820 Still only, I mean the 2kz, oh you know, it's staying close on the numbers here. 07:21:22.820 --> 07:21:27.180 But the fact that he's got this man to this early on, 17 minutes in, it makes him a little 07:21:27.180 --> 07:21:33.180 They're doing a very hard target. These blink dagger moves from collapse will not be easy to make going for the cats. 07:21:33.180 --> 07:21:42.180 Yeah, they'll probably have to wait for the bat blink because then they have to have the chains done into the doom to not allow them to get the little trickery plays that you can do with the Vance style. 07:21:42.180 --> 07:21:49.180 Paravision. Hopefully they are grouping up for a potential move as well here. Again, rolling thunder is up soon. 07:21:49.180 --> 07:21:55.180 They do have this ward that is not de-warded on the high ground, so they do see Rue at the moment. 07:21:55.180 --> 07:21:57.180 Titanic's right on him. 07:21:57.180 --> 07:21:59.180 It's going to fly, bro. 07:21:59.180 --> 07:22:00.180 Tauron on me ahead and over. 07:22:00.180 --> 07:22:03.180 They'll look for the turn, but the Manta was there as well as the Winters' curse 07:22:03.180 --> 07:22:05.180 to stop the turn from coming down on the Titanic. 07:22:05.180 --> 07:22:06.180 The Laster will be there, 07:22:06.180 --> 07:22:09.180 but now the Rolling Thunder's in, Yatora completely controlled. 07:22:09.180 --> 07:22:10.180 Oh, what a Manta. 07:22:10.180 --> 07:22:14.180 Oh, he was so ready for that, that coming out with the Manta reaction, 07:22:14.180 --> 07:22:16.180 and there's a stay on top of that. 07:22:16.180 --> 07:22:20.180 Tauron is in with the curse to ensure that Yatora had no chance getting the Doom out. 07:22:20.180 --> 07:22:23.180 A beautiful placement and playing around their vision again. 07:22:23.180 --> 07:22:30.180 The Manta just get disrupting that doom as we're saying it can be problematic if you don't get the taste of it. 07:22:30.180 --> 07:22:31.180 We'll see it again. 07:22:31.180 --> 07:22:34.180 Yeah, you saw the arms go up of the doom as well too. 07:22:34.180 --> 07:22:38.180 And the turret walking over to try and find that doom. 07:22:38.180 --> 07:22:43.180 Perk and the Manta coming out at the same time, not a chance to land on the Keds. 07:22:43.180 --> 07:22:46.180 He even gets the Great Lotus off before he gets Blasto. 07:22:46.180 --> 07:22:49.180 Tonight he's going to die by hitting means there anyway, but... 07:22:49.180 --> 07:22:51.180 Power vision. 07:22:51.180 --> 07:22:53.420 just snowball a bit here, getting the Roche as well. 07:22:55.660 --> 07:23:01.220 Very much, even in that game one, seeing why ParaFusion right now very much values 07:23:01.220 --> 07:23:05.740 Satanic on the Kess, it's looking incredibly solid in his hands. 07:23:06.740 --> 07:23:10.140 And it's looking hard overall for the team fights in particular for Spirit to get these 07:23:10.140 --> 07:23:14.540 catches, the Wyvern curse is super disruptive, this pango as well too just 07:23:14.540 --> 07:23:17.380 time and time again as we're seeing it, and the Kess, he's just leading the charge, 07:23:17.380 --> 07:23:21.060 He's starting the fight, able to get involved much easier than your Toro is. 07:23:24.820 --> 07:23:26.740 Yeah, him and Marci can just swoop around together now. 07:23:26.740 --> 07:23:30.100 Nightclas, as well as Satanic, can look for pretty much any kill. 07:23:30.100 --> 07:23:30.600 Spirit. 07:23:32.340 --> 07:23:34.180 Just think they gotta group up and get something here. 07:23:35.540 --> 07:23:37.140 Yeah, how's the snark situation? 07:23:37.140 --> 07:23:39.140 Think they've got at least one left. 07:23:39.140 --> 07:23:40.580 They've got the blink on the back. 07:23:40.580 --> 07:23:42.100 Let's see if they can execute it again. 07:23:42.100 --> 07:23:43.540 They're gonna find some huge with this. 07:23:44.180 --> 07:23:45.380 It's not easy to get the kez. 07:23:45.380 --> 07:23:47.060 He's got the Marci, so he's gotta stay behind him. 07:23:47.060 --> 07:23:48.060 He's got the Manta. 07:23:48.060 --> 07:23:50.060 Still careful no one plays around the mid. 07:23:50.060 --> 07:23:52.060 They were looking towards him. 07:23:52.060 --> 07:23:54.060 He seems to know something is up. 07:23:54.060 --> 07:23:57.060 He's not going to get baited by the Sniper showing on his own. 07:23:58.060 --> 07:24:00.060 What a triangle. 07:24:00.060 --> 07:24:03.060 Can they get this wraparound onto the pango? 07:24:03.060 --> 07:24:05.060 Can they find no one? 07:24:05.060 --> 07:24:09.060 Meanwhile they're losing an objective because Paravision's able to take the Tormenter. 07:24:09.060 --> 07:24:11.060 They've got to play. 07:24:12.060 --> 07:24:14.060 Clean movement, Paravision. 07:24:14.060 --> 07:24:16.060 Understanding. 07:24:16.060 --> 07:24:24.360 Where Spirit wants to play around. The Blinks are done for Spirit, but they can't find the catch and now Power Vision perhaps the ones to run into them to look for the fight with this next timing gear. 07:24:28.060 --> 07:24:29.760 This Marci is starting to get pretty rich Owen. 07:24:30.760 --> 07:24:38.160 We haven't seen the hero have too much success of course, but still when you get BKB on Marci and you're ahead, you can kill supports, you can kill cores quite easily as well. 07:24:41.460 --> 07:24:44.760 I mean even if you know, even get, yeah, getting a lot of sniper for example. 07:24:44.760 --> 07:24:45.600 You can get on anybody. 07:24:45.600 --> 07:24:46.800 Yeah, gotta be annoying for Lyle. 07:24:46.800 --> 07:24:48.240 He does have Shard on the Sniper, 07:24:48.240 --> 07:24:51.240 but you're very fast on Marcy to look at Chase's form, 07:24:51.240 --> 07:24:52.080 if you have an advantage. 07:24:52.080 --> 07:24:53.240 Amidst. 07:24:53.240 --> 07:24:54.240 Lyle's just gone for this, 07:24:54.240 --> 07:24:55.960 but the wrap brown's coming in onto more slow, 07:24:55.960 --> 07:24:57.520 and he has to immediately try and set me up. 07:24:57.520 --> 07:24:58.520 The curse is there. 07:25:00.720 --> 07:25:02.200 That's Lyle dead. 07:25:02.200 --> 07:25:04.280 Lyle also taken out. 07:25:04.280 --> 07:25:05.840 Maybe we won't be getting that later today. 07:25:05.840 --> 07:25:08.000 Yeah, that was a bit of a rough move 07:25:08.000 --> 07:25:09.080 trying to go for that in the mid. 07:25:09.080 --> 07:25:10.840 They didn't have the team with them, 07:25:10.840 --> 07:25:11.920 it was just the two of them. 07:25:11.920 --> 07:25:14.120 Oh, they're looking just extremely limited on damage, 07:25:14.120 --> 07:25:18.960 Well to unless like they fully focus like five heroes hitting somebody it doesn't feel like they have damage 07:25:18.960 --> 07:25:21.640 And then there's always this curse or this cold embrace to counteract things 07:25:22.040 --> 07:25:24.040 Paravision playing their draft now beautifully 07:25:25.320 --> 07:25:29.400 And tier two time to pressure it. There is no use stop this cares. Oh, there's no clip 07:25:30.320 --> 07:25:32.320 This time is dead 07:25:33.800 --> 07:25:38.160 I think take time is gonna have a super early butterfly this game and you don't have 07:25:38.160 --> 07:25:42.480 anyone is gonna get anywhere close and having any sort of true strike and like 07:25:42.480 --> 07:25:45.280 we said they're mostly physical damage this game yes okay there's the chain 07:25:45.280 --> 07:25:47.880 frost there's the back rider and some of these people but it's mostly this 07:25:47.880 --> 07:25:51.360 physical damage that is probably gonna be the thing that he's in front by and 07:25:51.360 --> 07:25:54.480 he's gonna have a butterfly if you answer for it and I'll be 07:25:54.480 --> 07:26:03.440 they're trying to go for now they are just not hitting right at all they're 07:26:03.440 --> 07:26:04.440 They're just quite crazy. 07:26:04.440 --> 07:26:06.440 This is how they control. 07:26:06.440 --> 07:26:08.440 Yeah, that game one might be rough for Power Vision, 07:26:08.440 --> 07:26:11.440 but game two and now game three, they... 07:26:11.440 --> 07:26:12.440 I see you over there. 07:26:12.440 --> 07:26:13.440 They really know. 07:26:13.440 --> 07:26:14.440 There was always the question right with this team here, 07:26:14.440 --> 07:26:16.440 are they going to tilt a little bit after game one? 07:26:16.440 --> 07:26:17.440 They did not. 07:26:17.440 --> 07:26:20.440 They have locked in and they are absolutely 07:26:20.440 --> 07:26:22.440 styling on Spirit for the most part. 07:26:22.440 --> 07:26:24.440 And this game two and now in this game three, 07:26:24.440 --> 07:26:25.440 Doom's going to get dropped down, 07:26:25.440 --> 07:26:27.440 but perfectly finding his out of there, 07:26:27.440 --> 07:26:31.440 and it's actually a Toro that might be in a spot of bother. 07:26:31.440 --> 07:26:36.440 He is very fast, can he hide with the TP? 07:26:36.440 --> 07:26:38.440 Looks like he should be able to. 07:26:39.440 --> 07:26:43.440 Pressure on all front stuff, and there's that butterfly finish stuff already. 07:26:43.440 --> 07:26:44.440 This is an absolute... 07:26:44.440 --> 07:26:45.440 What is this? 07:26:45.440 --> 07:26:46.440 This is insane. 07:26:46.440 --> 07:26:47.440 And just the... 07:26:48.440 --> 07:26:50.440 You know, the way that Statenix switched up the build. 07:26:50.440 --> 07:26:51.440 Yeah. 07:26:51.440 --> 07:26:53.440 He's not just blindly going for the same build that he was in the other games. 07:26:53.440 --> 07:26:57.440 He addressed the fact that this game, something different was required. 07:26:57.440 --> 07:27:00.440 And something different is absolutely perfect. 07:27:00.440 --> 07:27:04.840 for the match-ups that he's against, having hand to butterfly 23 minutes in, 07:27:04.840 --> 07:27:09.920 pretty much the nightmare for the heroes on Spirit, like how do you deal with a 07:27:09.920 --> 07:27:12.920 kez with butterfly man through at 23 minutes when you're these heroes? 07:27:12.920 --> 07:27:17.040 Slaughter and Sniper definitely look at this and go, oh my god what the hell do we 07:27:17.040 --> 07:27:19.760 literally would do nothing to him? Absolutely nothing, so they got to go for 07:27:19.760 --> 07:27:23.760 different targets, but noticed also is pretty much invulnerable to the Slaughter 07:27:23.760 --> 07:27:27.320 as well. Spirit smoking, looking for a catch, looking to do something with the 07:27:27.320 --> 07:27:33.560 numbers. The paravisans here. Can they finish him off? 07:27:33.560 --> 07:27:37.000 Too nice to get to Carlos, but he comes to the rolling thunder. It's not me gone. 07:27:37.000 --> 07:27:40.680 They'll get the two supports there, Spirit. But can the cores get out? 07:27:40.680 --> 07:27:45.400 Satanic jumps over towards Yatoro. Yatoro is being chased down by Satanic and 07:27:45.400 --> 07:27:50.760 noticed. The Spirit, they get the supports. But the cores suffering again here. 07:27:50.760 --> 07:27:55.080 On Spirit, into the trees, no one finds Lall. 07:27:55.080 --> 07:28:07.080 Aslal, nowhere to run, Satanic closing in, K'laps is gonna try and help out, but he may have just given up his own life there as well, as Spirit are about to get team wiped in 24 minutes in. 07:28:07.080 --> 07:28:11.080 Paravision, my goodness, is a safety. 07:28:11.080 --> 07:28:18.080 Game 1 was miserable for Paravision, but Game 2 and now Game 3, I think, might just be a little more miserable for Spirit. 07:28:18.080 --> 07:28:23.500 I think some people are going to be watching this game and say, uh, we might ban the Kez in the first phase is because 07:28:23.660 --> 07:28:28.080 Satanic is just actually taking over the entire map making every connection hit 07:28:28.500 --> 07:28:33.400 It looks terrifying the lane was terrifying and here. We're just saying clean up 07:28:35.400 --> 07:28:42.760 They tried for something here, but as you said only really killed the supports these cores are not a threat of anything from team spirit at this point 07:28:42.760 --> 07:28:49.160 13,000 lead, 24 minutes in, I think the agonim is about to be finished for the Kez. 07:28:49.160 --> 07:28:54.520 And honestly, when he has ags onto this man to butterfly, it even feels like the rest of 07:28:54.520 --> 07:28:57.160 Parafusion, they could sort of hang up the keyboard and mice to this. 07:28:57.160 --> 07:29:02.040 This St. Ternik Kez could probably just 1v5 the rest of the game with how far ahead and 07:29:02.040 --> 07:29:05.720 how well itemized he is against Spirits lineup. 07:29:05.720 --> 07:29:06.720 Pretty much, yeah. 07:29:06.720 --> 07:29:09.200 You're seeing the Timbs being thrown out there too, I think they're giving him quite a bit 07:29:09.200 --> 07:29:13.200 of respect as he is just styling a bit here for the man to play. 07:29:13.200 --> 07:29:16.200 Yatoro vs. Nightclash. Nightclash has a BKB. 07:29:16.200 --> 07:29:19.200 He's gonna get doomed and he'll walk away. 07:29:19.200 --> 07:29:21.200 Another doom. Wasted. 07:29:21.200 --> 07:29:24.200 Tough one there for Yatoro. 07:29:24.200 --> 07:29:28.200 Came in with a game plan to try to make it work around here with this doom carry, 07:29:28.200 --> 07:29:30.200 but just not in the case whatsoever. 07:29:30.200 --> 07:29:32.200 Got Viperd. 07:29:32.200 --> 07:29:38.200 Their smart art has had literally no game. 07:29:38.200 --> 07:29:44.200 I see nobody else, right? None of the supports either, just unable to get any type of connection here versus Paravision. 07:29:47.200 --> 07:29:53.200 Continues sweeping together, making sure they don't hemorrhage any of these kills when they have this insane advantage as well. 07:29:57.200 --> 07:30:03.200 Felt like I did. We thought perhaps we weren't going to get a bit of that longer one, but now it's looking quite tough. 07:30:03.200 --> 07:30:13.200 They do have Batrider to pull things into the base, but Paravision also has ways to force the issue and end games if they do want to go for this Viper with the Shard early as we saw last time. 07:30:14.200 --> 07:30:17.200 Probably going to wait a bit longer though, want to wait for that Roshan in particular. 07:30:19.200 --> 07:30:21.200 So more time for Spirit. 07:30:23.200 --> 07:30:24.200 Collapse. 07:30:25.200 --> 07:30:26.200 Little bit of time. 07:30:26.200 --> 07:30:33.200 But what big item pickup in particular for Spirit is going to be that crucial thing to 07:30:33.200 --> 07:30:36.440 turn things, to give them damage in particular is the thing that I'm looking at. 07:30:36.440 --> 07:30:39.440 Because right now, they're getting a bit more survivable, right? 07:30:39.440 --> 07:30:41.680 They're going to have the BKBs coming out from collapse. 07:30:41.680 --> 07:30:44.800 They have this blinker ready for the bat, but where's the damage going to come from at this 07:30:44.800 --> 07:30:46.760 point to bring down this pangolin kez? 07:30:46.760 --> 07:30:50.400 Because also, no one has to talk about him, too, besides the tannic owning. 07:30:50.400 --> 07:30:52.400 He's level 20 on this pangolin. 07:30:52.400 --> 07:30:56.240 Ducales, who's found Daneis, found Yatora. 07:30:56.240 --> 07:30:57.400 He knows that's not real. 07:30:57.400 --> 07:30:59.400 Backup's coming in. 07:30:59.400 --> 07:31:03.400 Cursed will be there to buy time for the rest of them to close in on to Yatora. 07:31:03.400 --> 07:31:06.400 We'll see not me trying to help out or get the last one of Ducales. 07:31:06.400 --> 07:31:10.400 Collapsed will try to help get him out of there, but they'll be able to disrupt the TP. 07:31:10.400 --> 07:31:11.400 Here comes the tank. 07:31:11.400 --> 07:31:16.400 The J. Frost comes down, but it doesn't matter, because it's going to be another clean up in favor of Paravision. 07:31:17.400 --> 07:31:19.400 Only losing the Wyvern. 07:31:19.400 --> 07:31:26.200 Again, just the supports, they cannot touch these cores, and the angle is devastating as well for Spirit. 07:31:26.200 --> 07:31:28.400 They walk in and they just walk right into a Viper. 07:31:32.400 --> 07:31:35.400 Matching every single move, Paravision super ready for every fight. 07:31:38.400 --> 07:31:39.400 Mass is up. 07:31:44.400 --> 07:31:47.400 The switch up of the lane is absolutely working out here. 07:31:47.400 --> 07:31:49.400 Like you're mentioning, perhaps it is, yeah? 07:31:49.400 --> 07:31:53.400 The sniper not having this type of countering matchup also, having a much more difficult time. 07:31:53.400 --> 07:31:56.400 Going for just this farming build, except for damage. 07:31:56.400 --> 07:32:00.400 I just don't know when it's gonna come online. It's gonna take a lot longer. 07:32:00.400 --> 07:32:01.400 Might a bit more time. 07:32:01.400 --> 07:32:03.400 It has to be off the back of a high ground defense. 07:32:03.400 --> 07:32:04.400 Yeah. 07:32:04.400 --> 07:32:08.400 I don't see Spirit being able to win any fight outside of the base now, 07:32:08.400 --> 07:32:10.400 and with how far behind they are in these matchups. 07:32:10.400 --> 07:32:11.400 It's gonna have to be... 07:32:11.400 --> 07:32:12.400 It's gonna have to be a comeback defense. 07:32:12.400 --> 07:32:14.400 Yeah, so I'm lassoing to base, and then I need to... 07:32:14.400 --> 07:32:18.000 and then they need to get like two more items on each core it feels like at this point. 07:32:20.000 --> 07:32:24.240 More blinks, so the Doom is gonna have that at the ready, but Jatoros is incredibly vulnerable. 07:32:24.240 --> 07:32:26.000 Sure he's got Mantle, he's got some HP. 07:32:27.200 --> 07:32:28.240 Because if they don't get the... 07:32:28.240 --> 07:32:28.740 Sorry. 07:32:28.740 --> 07:32:31.200 Jump onto the Kez, like, the Kez will kill everyone. 07:32:32.600 --> 07:32:38.200 Somebody has to lock down Satanic at the start of the fight, and even then they've just got to sort of hope that they can kill him. 07:32:38.800 --> 07:32:39.800 Hope that they have the damage. 07:32:39.800 --> 07:32:40.300 The duration, but... 07:32:40.700 --> 07:32:41.600 It's not easy. 07:32:41.600 --> 07:32:42.900 Yep, they have to get the Doom on him. 07:32:42.900 --> 07:32:43.900 100%. 07:32:43.900 --> 07:32:46.740 has to be put onto him, they have to just fully focus him. 07:32:47.740 --> 07:32:49.740 He's just very single target oriented. 07:32:50.740 --> 07:32:53.240 Imparavisions is not single target oriented. 07:32:53.240 --> 07:32:54.240 Last he collapsed. 07:32:54.240 --> 07:32:55.240 Found again. 07:32:55.240 --> 07:32:57.940 Oh my goodness, as soon as they see him, they're straight on top of him. 07:32:59.240 --> 07:33:00.740 He's had no game whatsoever. 07:33:00.740 --> 07:33:02.740 Nine class, he's ready to try and set up for more. 07:33:02.740 --> 07:33:04.740 He comes in with the ult, he's able to take out Rui on his own. 07:33:04.740 --> 07:33:06.740 He's making the solo plays on this point. 07:33:06.740 --> 07:33:08.740 I'm gonna use the last one, but he already got the BKB off. 07:33:08.740 --> 07:33:10.740 So there'll be no damage to threat in nine class. 07:33:10.740 --> 07:33:13.240 Not me at least, they're able to blink back to safety. 07:33:13.240 --> 07:33:16.620 I say that they're not wantin no one he was ready to start down in the base looking for it 07:33:18.460 --> 07:33:24.540 Might be but high ground cushion does notice to have the shard yet not yet. Okay, I think he might just buy it 07:33:24.540 --> 07:33:26.540 I don't think he needs his BKB at this point on the Viper 07:33:27.880 --> 07:33:29.940 But doesn't even want to be the one that's stages 07:33:29.940 --> 07:33:36.340 Maybe they're just gonna have the Ted's huge with the Aegis that he'd now is going to have on top of having a blink and an axe as well 07:33:36.340 --> 07:33:49.640 Not me, Michael, for a steal play. I think they saw him, though. They did. They're right 07:33:49.640 --> 07:33:50.640 on him. 07:33:50.640 --> 07:33:52.640 There we go. 07:33:52.640 --> 07:33:54.640 I'll go out this time. 07:33:54.640 --> 07:33:58.720 Another ready, just ready to go on satanic. This probably going to be the one that they 07:33:58.720 --> 07:34:00.240 could look to take to the high ground. 07:34:00.240 --> 07:34:04.200 Oh, not me. Try and do some cute little moves here on the back. 07:34:04.200 --> 07:34:06.440 1v3 won't be able to get much of anything. 07:34:07.640 --> 07:34:09.960 Satanic, let's found Yatoro- ooooh! 07:34:09.960 --> 07:34:11.400 Does get the blink away, but he's chasing. 07:34:11.400 --> 07:34:12.520 He's gonna try and chase. 07:34:12.520 --> 07:34:14.520 Yatoro costs very speedy in the river. 07:34:15.240 --> 07:34:16.040 Faceboots. 07:34:16.680 --> 07:34:17.800 Is the river born aura? 07:34:19.560 --> 07:34:20.600 He'll never get the black dragon. 07:34:20.600 --> 07:34:22.120 They're hanging around and he's under vision. 07:34:22.120 --> 07:34:23.880 He is actually under award. 07:34:23.880 --> 07:34:25.080 I don't know if he knows that. 07:34:25.880 --> 07:34:26.840 He might know now. 07:34:28.040 --> 07:34:28.680 Very good. 07:34:29.880 --> 07:34:30.760 Evaporated. 07:34:31.560 --> 07:34:32.840 Beyond godlike air. 07:34:32.840 --> 07:34:34.680 Ah, it's... I mean, his cast is an issue. 07:34:34.680 --> 07:34:36.520 Future stories against Paravision. 07:34:36.520 --> 07:34:39.240 Teams are gonna be thinking about the cast for sure, 07:34:39.240 --> 07:34:40.840 because these... 07:34:40.840 --> 07:34:43.960 these performances from Statenik absolutely top tier on the cast. 07:34:43.960 --> 07:34:45.480 Or have just... I mean, either you ban it, 07:34:45.480 --> 07:34:46.760 or you have some better preparation for it, 07:34:46.760 --> 07:34:49.320 because we have seen the slaughter in the mid lane versus the cast. 07:34:49.320 --> 07:34:51.240 It did look pretty decent, but in this off lane, 07:34:51.240 --> 07:34:54.840 especially with the Wyvern there too, it looks unplayable for collapse. 07:34:59.000 --> 07:34:59.640 To the high ground. 07:35:00.840 --> 07:35:01.560 Statenik's in! 07:35:02.840 --> 07:35:03.720 Just kills him. 07:35:03.720 --> 07:35:05.520 Goodbye, Rude. I'll get the last one to it. 07:35:05.520 --> 07:35:06.920 Can he get him into the fountain? 07:35:06.920 --> 07:35:10.220 Of course, he does have that Aegis anyway, so he does not care. 07:35:10.220 --> 07:35:11.720 And they have ways to bail him out. 07:35:12.380 --> 07:35:14.380 Can keep that Aegis safe for a little longer. 07:35:14.380 --> 07:35:17.180 But for Shardis online, time for these Raxans. 07:35:17.180 --> 07:35:20.080 And Statenik's gonna- he's gonna be ready to blink on them again if anyone gets close. 07:35:20.080 --> 07:35:22.680 Already no one's gonna dive onto the tier 4s. 07:35:22.680 --> 07:35:24.080 And then Statenik ready to follow up. 07:35:24.080 --> 07:35:26.580 He's gonna go straight over to watch the snipe, but look for Lyle. 07:35:26.580 --> 07:35:30.800 We have to get him away. Statenik also drags back to safety by 9 class. 07:35:30.800 --> 07:35:31.920 They can't punish him. 07:35:32.840 --> 07:35:34.840 It's alright. 07:35:34.840 --> 07:35:36.840 We go for the doom. 07:35:36.840 --> 07:35:38.840 On towards Nochis. 07:35:38.840 --> 07:35:40.840 Satanic is ready to fight though. 07:35:40.840 --> 07:35:42.840 Nochis is going to be fine. 07:35:42.840 --> 07:35:44.840 They can't go through Satanic so get the Aegis. 07:35:44.840 --> 07:35:46.840 They take him out once. 07:35:46.840 --> 07:35:48.840 And they do it a second time. 07:35:48.840 --> 07:35:50.840 No one at the side, look at the knot meat. 07:35:50.840 --> 07:35:52.840 Satanic will blink up in a second. 07:35:52.840 --> 07:35:58.840 Anybody he connects with pretty much dies instantly if they do get hit by initial stun. 07:35:58.840 --> 07:36:00.840 Looks like they'll play careful now that the Aegis is gone. 07:36:00.840 --> 07:36:03.740 He's gone. He went immediately jump back into the base. 07:36:03.740 --> 07:36:05.940 Got what they came for. Raxus has been claimed. 07:36:05.940 --> 07:36:08.340 It forced even a buyback super early from Rill. 07:36:08.340 --> 07:36:10.340 Rill wasn't able to find anything with it. 07:36:13.340 --> 07:36:15.540 All eyes on, not me to try to get a last one. 07:36:15.540 --> 07:36:17.340 Try to get some type of kills, as you saw it. 07:36:17.340 --> 07:36:18.740 Even if they pull next to the fountain, 07:36:18.740 --> 07:36:20.740 if they don't have everybody up to go for the punish. 07:36:21.940 --> 07:36:22.940 Not going to be able to kill him. 07:36:22.940 --> 07:36:24.940 They're re-smoking. They're going to go into the base. 07:36:24.940 --> 07:36:26.940 They're going to look to close this out already on. 07:36:30.840 --> 07:36:37.840 He's gonna show and let's pray for him! 07:36:37.840 --> 07:36:39.840 Look at the BKBR for Prime Run! 07:36:39.840 --> 07:36:42.840 The physical damage from Static at this point. 07:36:42.840 --> 07:36:45.840 Absolutely unbearable. 07:36:45.840 --> 07:36:49.840 Anyone who's caught that stun just dies in an instant. 07:36:49.840 --> 07:36:53.840 Another Rax. 07:36:53.840 --> 07:36:56.840 He's getting the last laugh this series. 07:36:56.840 --> 07:36:57.840 He knows this one. 07:36:57.840 --> 07:36:59.840 He gets it pretty heavily in Game 1. 07:36:59.840 --> 07:37:05.600 this one is totally done yeah sweat flink as well as satanic here 33 minutes in 07:37:05.600 --> 07:37:10.920 one of the the more stacked cases you'd see at this point in the game and what's 07:37:10.920 --> 07:37:15.160 maybe in the the best case performance we've had here this dream league this is 07:37:15.160 --> 07:37:22.960 800 you PM yeah pretty ridiculous looking to steal the deal we did not it 07:37:22.960 --> 07:37:26.240 doesn't look like it's a 35 minutes though we did we did we got a longer 07:37:26.240 --> 07:37:30.240 We've got a longer game here. This is the longest one of the series. 07:37:30.240 --> 07:37:36.240 But still, very much a very one-sided one. The mega creeps out now for paravision. 07:37:36.240 --> 07:37:41.240 And the upper bracket teams are showing. You can close games in faster than 60 minutes. 07:37:41.240 --> 07:37:45.240 This is what? A total series that's going to be potentially 90-something minutes 07:37:45.240 --> 07:37:49.240 compared to a 90-minute game that we had in one of the other ones. 07:37:49.240 --> 07:37:51.240 That's very true. 07:37:51.240 --> 07:37:55.700 I'm very I think this is probably the fastest here is in the bag is there's been some two 07:37:55.700 --> 07:38:00.080 ones there has a tool when the three games might be the fastest three games here is 07:38:00.080 --> 07:38:03.000 that we've had in the playoffs in the playoffs I think for sure you didn't 07:38:03.000 --> 07:38:07.760 maybe the whole thing I don't know 30 minutes we've had the long games that's 07:38:07.760 --> 07:38:15.360 pretty rare might hit the 35 minute mark but it is it's mega creeps at 30 minutes 07:38:15.360 --> 07:38:18.800 and mega creeps are almost impossible to come back from and especially this early 07:38:18.800 --> 07:38:31.840 on it. Spirit's gonna need some type of colossal throw. Very oppressive gameplay. Final smoke 07:38:31.840 --> 07:38:47.600 up perhaps Spirit. Let's see if they can get a big kill. I want to see Satanic get the 07:38:47.600 --> 07:38:50.300 next item I just want to see him every rate means already erasing everybody 07:38:50.300 --> 07:38:52.840 anyway but 07:38:54.440 --> 07:39:04.840 not me looking for a chance to somebody here but he's caught himself 07:39:04.840 --> 07:39:12.720 what no tried to get say turning that just meant those all night long he's 07:39:12.720 --> 07:39:14.880 going straight for the law was he throwing at the chance to jump and get 07:39:14.880 --> 07:39:20.800 the team down on Static. The curses there, hold back Yatoro, nobody else can get over 07:39:20.800 --> 07:39:25.120 to Static and we'll be able to beat KVTB out here, Yatoro. The rolling thunders heading 07:39:25.120 --> 07:39:29.820 straight for LAL. They'll try and force him back to safety, but the blinks are there closing 07:39:29.820 --> 07:39:34.760 in onto the high ground. Double kill for notice. The Biobags will come out from both sides. 07:39:34.760 --> 07:39:38.480 Nine class ready to close this one down. I mean LAL's out for a minute, doesn't have 07:39:38.480 --> 07:39:43.360 Biobag on the sniper. They'll chop out Gigi, he's called. Para-vision will be going on 07:39:43.360 --> 07:39:46.520 to the ground final there at DreamLeague Season 29. 07:39:46.520 --> 07:39:50.720 Well, it hit 35 minutes, but this one, they kinda crushed it again. 07:39:50.720 --> 07:39:52.680 Just absolutely steamrolling things. 07:39:52.680 --> 07:39:57.200 The pango pick, but mostly, I mean, have to just, like, 17-0-9-1 07:39:57.200 --> 07:40:00.240 an individual performance from him, just dismantling everybody. 07:40:00.240 --> 07:40:03.160 In 9th class, bring it back one of his old heroes. 07:40:03.160 --> 07:40:07.920 Exactly. You know, you know, Game 1, we saw him forced onto a hero that he kinda never plays. 07:40:07.920 --> 07:40:10.400 Game 2, we saw one hero he's been playing a whole lot of. 07:40:10.400 --> 07:40:17.840 And then Game 3 says, well, I will show you that I've placed him in a little bit different to what you've been used to me playing recently, brings back the Marci. 07:40:17.840 --> 07:40:27.200 We haven't seen him for about, I think, about three months from him in pro games, but still as strong as ever, one of those heroes that he has an insane win rate as well in professional games. 07:40:27.200 --> 07:40:31.420 And they're showing that he absolutely still works in the stay and age as the support. 07:40:31.420 --> 07:40:34.300 7, 5, and 11 there from 9-class, some fantastic impact. 07:40:34.300 --> 07:40:37.280 And yes, Spirit, a rough couple of games, 07:40:37.280 --> 07:40:40.320 and it's a water turnaround right after that game won. 07:40:40.320 --> 07:40:40.820 Yes. 07:40:40.820 --> 07:40:44.640 Spirit absolutely dumpstered ParaVision for the game 07:40:44.640 --> 07:40:46.040 two and game three. 07:40:46.040 --> 07:40:49.760 They do the dumpster. 07:40:49.760 --> 07:40:51.160 Awesome plays, really, from ParaVision. 07:40:51.160 --> 07:40:54.240 And we said they had to come in, back, recover things. 07:40:54.240 --> 07:40:56.040 After a bit of a slip up, there was somebody's draft, 07:40:56.040 --> 07:40:56.800 somebody's play. 07:40:56.800 --> 07:40:59.160 Yeah, incredible recovery from all of them, and Titanic. 07:40:59.160 --> 07:41:00.080 All three games, that cares. 07:41:00.080 --> 07:41:01.160 Yeah, he loves it. 07:41:01.160 --> 07:41:02.640 And his teammates do it. 07:41:02.640 --> 07:41:04.680 I think the fans of ParaVision will as well. 07:41:04.680 --> 07:41:07.080 17-09, what a show from him. 07:41:07.080 --> 07:41:08.200 The series, it's theirs. 07:41:08.200 --> 07:41:11.200 ParaVision taking third one against Team Spirit. 07:41:12.160 --> 07:41:13.680 Yeah, time to address that, Caz, 07:41:13.680 --> 07:41:15.480 maybe next time on the bounce, 07:41:15.480 --> 07:41:18.040 but I'm sure Team Spirit is a lot wiser 07:41:18.040 --> 07:41:19.320 than they were before this one. 07:41:19.320 --> 07:41:21.680 Should they meet again in the Grand Finals? 07:41:21.680 --> 07:41:23.920 And that is where ParaVision is going, of course, 07:41:23.920 --> 07:41:25.520 with winning this series. 07:41:25.520 --> 07:41:29.120 Guaranteed top two, guaranteed Grand Finals, Kezu. 07:41:29.120 --> 07:41:31.600 And rightfully so, they look super strong here. 07:41:31.600 --> 07:41:35.740 They played so well, like throughout this entire series, you know, also going into Game 1, you get slapped. 07:41:35.740 --> 07:41:40.400 They make a really cool adjustment, right, with all the support bands that we haven't seen in the other series. 07:41:40.400 --> 07:41:45.500 I think Satanic on the cast, he absolutely stood out, like, not just his laning and overall his spell usage. 07:41:45.500 --> 07:41:47.500 Once they take the tier 1, he goes to mid. 07:41:47.500 --> 07:41:50.900 This guy was everywhere. Same with the Dookie Dook on his Winter Wyvern Laplace. 07:41:50.900 --> 07:41:51.400 He kinda... 07:41:51.400 --> 07:41:53.700 Ken Dookie kinda cooked this one, I gotta say. 07:41:53.700 --> 07:41:58.200 Like, from the laning stage, which he secured the lane for Kez, and also, like, 07:41:58.200 --> 07:42:02.420 Ever since we saw the picker like yeah, it looks really good to reset the fight to clear the lane for him 07:42:02.420 --> 07:42:06.840 And also rotations that he made like went to the mid lane and then played in the triangle 07:42:07.440 --> 07:42:09.080 Sucking up some of the ganks as well 07:42:09.080 --> 07:42:14.000 Or somebody else was like supposed to get doomed and no one taking off that headset. This is what you want to see 07:42:15.080 --> 07:42:17.480 Back up the half that after you're done with the game. That's what you do 07:42:17.480 --> 07:42:20.520 That is what you do second headset heat to third headset here we go 07:42:24.160 --> 07:42:27.200 We've seen no one with a different headset during this series 07:42:27.200 --> 07:42:32.200 Well, after game one they had a bit of a talk and a big smash and many have happened, you know. 07:42:32.200 --> 07:42:35.200 Puppy is all that pink. Maybe he's up monitors too, who knows. 07:42:35.200 --> 07:42:39.200 We'll never know. What do you make of this win, Xenia? 07:42:39.200 --> 07:42:47.200 I think what I like the most about this last game is that 9-class did end up playing something that is not like traditional metahero. 07:42:47.200 --> 07:42:52.200 And I guess Kez and all is glory. So, Kez and all is glory. Amazing. 07:42:52.200 --> 07:42:53.200 Only 20-all in Kez. 07:42:53.200 --> 07:43:00.400 only like winning every single game playing Kaz, but I do feel like still, unless they get 07:43:00.400 --> 07:43:05.040 my class comfortable, their games are gonna look bad. I really feel like that's like a recurring trend 07:43:05.040 --> 07:43:09.760 and I liked that they didn't mindlessly pick him like Huskar into some bad position. They found 07:43:09.760 --> 07:43:14.080 a hero from that actually like worked for this game and he was like moving around a lot in the 07:43:14.080 --> 07:43:19.520 early game finding like it wasn't the most amount of moves but he was finding key moves. Like this 07:43:19.520 --> 07:43:24.020 That thing kind of sets up Kez's whole game, because up until this point, you see they're 07:43:24.020 --> 07:43:27.920 very even, like starter and Kez are completely even, and then he's even finding solo kills 07:43:27.920 --> 07:43:28.920 on the Atoroh. 07:43:28.920 --> 07:43:32.600 And I think these are like things that he didn't find at all in the Lion game, and he 07:43:32.600 --> 07:43:35.840 needs to be able to do it, and sometimes you know it goes a little wrong, and we gotta 07:43:35.840 --> 07:43:40.680 show that too, but I think that is like part of the scare factor of playing against him 07:43:40.680 --> 07:43:46.000 as a core, that he will just do something crazy, and he might just feed and fall flat 07:43:46.000 --> 07:43:48.940 on his face, but most of the time he gets it down right. 07:43:48.940 --> 07:43:51.580 He added a new hero to his repertoire, so now you have... 07:43:51.580 --> 07:43:52.580 That's 5-4! 07:43:52.580 --> 07:43:53.580 5-1! 07:43:53.580 --> 07:43:54.580 I don't have the problem! 07:43:54.580 --> 07:43:59.260 If you have 4, 5th one is going to be the big problemo, coming into whoever is going 07:43:59.260 --> 07:44:01.340 to be playing in a BO5 against them. 07:44:01.340 --> 07:44:03.420 But it's true, and it is a very real point. 07:44:03.420 --> 07:44:06.660 Like, a lot of the time, the 4th is also the guy in the early game with the most freedom. 07:44:06.660 --> 07:44:09.260 Like, you know, you're going to leave your offender, and they did it very nicely. 07:44:09.260 --> 07:44:10.260 They have Viper. 07:44:10.260 --> 07:44:13.540 You can leave your brother alone, and he can go around, do some early stuff, because 07:44:13.540 --> 07:44:16.660 you could see that in the first game it was just very, very different. 07:44:16.660 --> 07:44:20.100 But I think at the same time too, it's not just him, it's like all the others. 07:44:20.100 --> 07:44:23.500 I think they all really stepped it off from like game 1 to game 2 to game 3, which has 07:44:23.500 --> 07:44:25.220 a lot to do with the in-between talking. 07:44:25.220 --> 07:44:26.220 I see you. 07:44:26.220 --> 07:44:27.220 Back to you, LaCos. 07:44:27.220 --> 07:44:31.660 They did it on purpose, but no, I like how he was also able to save people who ever was 07:44:31.660 --> 07:44:33.980 getting doomed, just push him out of the trouble. 07:44:33.980 --> 07:44:40.380 They were unable to lock onto a target and kill it from 100 to 0. 07:44:40.380 --> 07:44:42.060 They also were lacking some of the stuns. 07:44:42.060 --> 07:44:45.660 There isn't too much synergy between the doom and sniper. 07:44:45.660 --> 07:44:54.260 I really feel like if you compare it to Bathrider for example, not me was kind of invisible in this game compared to Game 1. 07:44:54.260 --> 07:44:58.460 Well I would like to chime in real quick because we're only talking, did you see Yatoro in this game? 07:44:58.460 --> 07:45:07.760 Okay, there was like a 10 minute period where Yatoro I don't think was on screen once. 07:45:07.760 --> 07:45:14.660 But that's what he's supposed to be, he's the carry, whereas on the other hand, not me, it's supposed to be cooking. 07:45:14.660 --> 07:45:17.660 That's true, because he's not you, that makes sense. 07:45:19.660 --> 07:45:21.660 That one's definitely not yours. 07:45:21.660 --> 07:45:23.660 Good job man, look at it, I hope your father is off. 07:45:23.660 --> 07:45:25.660 I am. Back to your original point. 07:45:25.660 --> 07:45:27.660 Back to your original point. 07:45:27.660 --> 07:45:31.660 My point is that in game 1, this Tusk was owning and not me was very involved. 07:45:31.660 --> 07:45:33.660 And I think the fours in the series mattered a lot, 07:45:33.660 --> 07:45:36.660 and whichever one managed to do more ended up on top. 07:45:36.660 --> 07:45:40.660 I have a question though, if we're talking about the five horsemen, 07:45:40.660 --> 07:45:44.300 The Husker was absent this entire series. 07:45:44.300 --> 07:45:46.900 Is he still a horseman if he's not even... 07:45:46.900 --> 07:45:51.300 Yeah, it should definitely be on other people's radar 07:45:51.300 --> 07:45:56.420 because this is something that he plays really well and it's a completely different style when he plays it 07:45:56.420 --> 07:45:59.620 because he secures the lane for him because he played it from the safe lane 07:45:59.620 --> 07:46:06.700 so he secured the lane for his carry and then just goes to jungle and suddenly he shows up with the Blink Dagger armlet 07:46:06.700 --> 07:46:08.580 And they're like, well, that's another core. 07:46:08.580 --> 07:46:11.220 This is a hero that we really can't ignore in the fights anymore. 07:46:11.540 --> 07:46:14.900 It's like similar in this series also with Timber, a hero that wasn't touched. 07:46:15.140 --> 07:46:19.140 And I think that's another cool thing, like about Dota, that you have so many good heroes that, 07:46:19.580 --> 07:46:22.940 you know, if one player maybe doesn't love it or you don't love it against a team you're playing up against, 07:46:23.140 --> 07:46:25.020 you can just shelf it and go for something else. 07:46:25.300 --> 07:46:28.860 And I think it just adds the kind of uniqueness and complexity that we have. 07:46:29.180 --> 07:46:30.780 I think you can also hold. 07:46:31.940 --> 07:46:35.460 It is time to talk to the man of the match. 07:46:35.460 --> 07:46:37.460 Nooo! Now you know what are you doing. 07:46:37.460 --> 07:46:38.460 Hello. 07:46:38.460 --> 07:46:40.460 Congratulations on the Grand Finals. 07:46:40.460 --> 07:46:42.460 Your first Grand Finals this season. 07:46:42.460 --> 07:46:45.460 So that must be pretty high for you guys. 07:46:45.460 --> 07:46:47.460 Yeah, of course it is. 07:46:47.460 --> 07:46:50.460 I have a very random question based on that 07:46:50.460 --> 07:46:52.460 because you've been on a lot of teams in your career 07:46:52.460 --> 07:46:55.460 and you've been on a lot of Grand Finals in your career. 07:46:55.460 --> 07:46:57.460 And successfully so of course as well. 07:46:57.460 --> 07:47:00.460 And I was wondering if you feel in a team 07:47:00.460 --> 07:47:03.460 that there is that special sauce 07:47:03.460 --> 07:47:10.260 that makes the team be a Grand Finals championship team versus when you guys, I mean you guys came 07:47:10.260 --> 07:47:14.100 top 6 majority of tournaments, you weren't doing bad or anything like that but of course not reaching 07:47:14.100 --> 07:47:20.420 Grand Finals. I wonder if you feel a difference within the team between those type of teams? 07:47:22.340 --> 07:47:28.100 You mean like we're asking about our team like last year or this year with not just 07:47:28.100 --> 07:47:31.700 or without, or about any team that I was playing for. 07:47:31.700 --> 07:47:37.820 Any team that you were into, like a team that reaches grand finals, takes them potentially, 07:47:37.820 --> 07:47:42.100 or a team that just does well, but doesn't necessarily reach grand finals? 07:47:42.100 --> 07:47:48.100 Yes, so I think you cannot feel it until you just do it. 07:47:48.100 --> 07:47:52.180 Basically, I don't know, maybe some insolent you will agree with me, because you come to 07:47:52.180 --> 07:47:55.380 tournament and you don't really know, like sometimes you come with a really good form, 07:47:55.380 --> 07:48:02.020 you still lose, or sometimes you come in with bad form and you win, but it depends on the 07:48:02.020 --> 07:48:07.340 vibe, it depends on the patch, it depends on the day basically, but I don't really understand 07:48:07.340 --> 07:48:14.620 completely the question how to answer it, but to me, there's no source, just players, I 07:48:14.620 --> 07:48:20.060 would guess, like some chemics, chemics, yeah, even the players. 07:48:20.060 --> 07:48:26.700 Okay, that is the type of answer that I was looking for, so you read the question correctly with that. 07:48:26.700 --> 07:48:35.580 Yeah, but when you go to the final, I mean like to be the champion of the tournament, I think you need, how to say, 07:48:35.580 --> 07:48:41.020 to be in a lot of tournaments before the first place and then you will feel you can win or not. 07:48:41.020 --> 07:48:45.580 Yeah, so, kind of like this. It's an easy answer, but yeah, sorry. 07:48:45.580 --> 07:48:50.220 No, no, that's what I was going for. You feel it now, with this team currently. 07:48:50.220 --> 07:48:52.460 Yeah, I mean, Grand Finals secured. 07:48:52.460 --> 07:48:57.500 I mean, we were really good last year. We've been in tournaments last year as well, so why not? 07:48:57.500 --> 07:49:01.740 And now we have a new coach, a new player, and like, I mean, we're feeling good, yeah. 07:49:01.740 --> 07:49:05.500 I mean, much better than before. I think the patch is for us as well. 07:49:05.500 --> 07:49:10.540 Edgar finds a lot of his heroes, and we find our playstyle, and Pipey 07:49:10.540 --> 07:49:13.340 teaches us a lot how to play little Dota, actually. 07:49:13.340 --> 07:49:18.060 And it absolutely shows, you guys are on fire. 07:49:18.060 --> 07:49:24.700 I have a question about game one as well, because you got to play the Invoker, and there was a little bit of discussion going on here, 07:49:24.700 --> 07:49:32.460 whether it shouldn't be a sniper, or what was the other one, the Zeus coming out instead of the Invoker. 07:49:32.460 --> 07:49:35.500 And we were wondering if you could elaborate on your choice there. 07:49:35.500 --> 07:49:41.100 Yeah, well, the Zeus was much better was for sure, because they have tasks in the SNF at the same time. 07:49:41.100 --> 07:49:44.900 If they don't have a task but some range support, I think Invoker is still fine against Sapphire 07:49:44.900 --> 07:49:49.300 because you have many ways, like first of all you have a free mid, even though he has a lot of the nice for me. 07:49:49.900 --> 07:49:56.600 Invoker doesn't really care about this because my teammates can do some lane pressure and I will have some stray kills, 07:49:56.600 --> 07:50:02.400 and my natura should be fine, but in the end what happens is we just come mid and feed for 6 kills in 36 or something 07:50:02.400 --> 07:50:04.700 and the game is really rough after this. 07:50:04.700 --> 07:50:07.100 And if this happens, Invoker feels so suck. 07:50:08.100 --> 07:50:10.700 Yeah, I guess I can only imagine. 07:50:10.700 --> 07:50:12.700 I also wouldn't say any, I would love to ask you a question. 07:50:12.700 --> 07:50:14.700 Hey, what's up, no one, it's good to see you. 07:50:14.700 --> 07:50:15.700 Hello. 07:50:15.700 --> 07:50:19.700 I was wondering, I think this tournament, you guys seem to be one of the only teams that knows how to close off games. 07:50:19.700 --> 07:50:21.700 What do you think, or do you agree with that? 07:50:21.700 --> 07:50:25.700 Or do you think, like, the patch is slow, why do you think these games are dragging on for so long? 07:50:25.700 --> 07:50:30.700 Well, I saw the team spirit, I think team spirit as well, now really knows how to close the games. 07:50:30.700 --> 07:50:36.700 Like, from what the games I saw, they played really good and sometimes they end like in 20 minutes the games. 07:50:36.700 --> 07:50:39.700 So I think they're like on this edge as well. 07:50:39.700 --> 07:50:43.300 I think it's the players' style and the heroes that we have right now. 07:50:43.300 --> 07:50:50.540 Because as I said, Papi Kitchen is so much about the game itself, so we use it, and it works. 07:50:51.540 --> 07:50:54.860 It's good to see. Were you watching the Playtime vs. Falcon series before? 07:50:55.540 --> 07:51:05.060 Yeah, I was watching and I was wondering how they lose actually, because I think Playtime is actually a really good team, to be honest. 07:51:05.060 --> 07:51:08.580 Because I was thinking in that game, kind of similar to what you guys did in the series, 07:51:08.580 --> 07:51:10.940 they could have marched high ground a bit sooner and just wrapped it up. 07:51:10.940 --> 07:51:13.260 Do you think that's where the problems are? 07:51:13.260 --> 07:51:18.460 I mean, they could just give the edges to Viper a shot, as we do every game, like they could 07:51:18.460 --> 07:51:22.340 learn from it, not to Ember speed, and I think that the game was over. 07:51:22.340 --> 07:51:25.060 And the first game as well, the lead is all right, really hard. 07:51:25.060 --> 07:51:28.660 So the second game, I think it was over, just Ember speed takes the edges, that was the 07:51:28.660 --> 07:51:30.700 main problem for them, in my opinion. 07:51:30.700 --> 07:51:32.820 Alright, cool, thanks for sharing. 07:51:32.820 --> 07:51:34.780 Good to see you. 07:51:34.780 --> 07:51:38.900 And with that in mind, who do you think is going to come out ahead when Aurora and Falcons 07:51:38.900 --> 07:51:40.900 are facing you in just a moment? 07:51:40.900 --> 07:51:42.900 Oh, I don't really know. 07:51:42.900 --> 07:51:47.860 I think both teams are really not in the best shape, but I think that Aurora is a bit better 07:51:47.860 --> 07:51:50.300 right now in terms of fast play. 07:51:50.300 --> 07:51:53.380 But it depends on the drafts, to be honest. 07:51:53.380 --> 07:51:54.380 What they will have. 07:51:54.380 --> 07:51:58.220 Because I think Nightfall can have Windranger and he will just go, I don't know, make kills 07:51:58.220 --> 07:52:02.980 under tier 3 like he did yesterday against Tundra and it's going to be over. 07:52:02.980 --> 07:52:07.540 at the same time, I don't know, some Duma, Marvel, Gammon, Lane and just fuck, you know, 07:52:07.540 --> 07:52:09.640 and this is going to be over for them. 07:52:09.640 --> 07:52:13.280 So it's hard to predict those things, but I think Aurora a little bit better if they'll 07:52:13.280 --> 07:52:16.640 have much faster heroes than Falcons, Lane. 07:52:16.640 --> 07:52:19.120 Okay, Lot's going to come down to that draft. 07:52:19.120 --> 07:52:20.840 Thank you so much, everyone, for taking the time to talk to us. 07:52:20.840 --> 07:52:23.280 Of course, good luck in the grand finals tomorrow. 07:52:23.280 --> 07:52:25.280 I will see you then. 07:52:25.280 --> 07:52:26.280 Thank you so much, bye. 07:52:26.280 --> 07:52:27.280 Thank you. 07:52:27.280 --> 07:52:31.800 And we are going to move forward to that next series, so stay tuned because Aurora and 07:52:31.800 --> 07:52:32.800 Falcons after this play. 07:53:32.800 --> 07:53:39.800 I got a 45 pointed at your head 07:53:39.800 --> 07:53:46.800 The reason all of me offered death 07:53:46.800 --> 07:53:52.800 I got the devil on my run through my veins 07:53:52.800 --> 07:53:59.800 I hear the voice of God, I ain't shit 07:53:59.800 --> 07:54:05.800 I hear the voice of God, crying, chained, chained, chained 07:54:06.800 --> 07:54:11.800 I look out the devil's blood, running through my head 07:54:12.800 --> 07:54:17.800 I hear the voice of God, crying, chained, chained, chained 07:54:17.800 --> 07:54:19.800 I can't take it anymore 07:54:26.800 --> 07:54:30.800 Breaching back and trying to save our soul 07:54:32.800 --> 07:54:36.800 So we're shutting down the land of man 07:54:39.800 --> 07:54:43.800 I'm a son of a saint and a child 07:54:43.800 --> 07:54:49.800 I am a devil's blood running through my veins 07:54:49.800 --> 07:54:56.800 I am a voice of God crying change, change, change 07:54:56.800 --> 07:55:03.800 I am a devil's blood running through my veins 07:55:03.800 --> 07:55:10.800 I am a voice of God crying change, change 07:55:10.800 --> 07:55:15.800 I am a voicing car, I change and change 07:55:17.800 --> 07:55:23.800 I defy the law and it's all from grace 07:55:24.800 --> 07:55:29.800 Now we go, something be brave 07:55:30.800 --> 07:55:36.800 I am a demon screaming out my name 07:56:06.800 --> 07:56:08.800 You 07:57:06.800 --> 07:57:08.800 Mm-hmm 07:58:36.800 --> 07:58:51.600 I've been waiting a long time just longing for a plan 07:58:51.600 --> 07:59:19.240 Dream League Season 29 is brought to you by DHL and CHECKZ. 07:59:21.600 --> 07:59:31.820 Welcome back here watching Greenleague Season 29 and we have Paravision in the Grand Finals 07:59:31.820 --> 07:59:35.860 tomorrow when we got Team Spirit in the lower bracket finals tomorrow. 07:59:35.860 --> 07:59:40.620 And there is only space for one more team to join them on Championship Sunday. 07:59:40.620 --> 07:59:45.860 There's going to be either Falcons or Aurora and that is a match that's going to be played 07:59:45.860 --> 07:59:50.100 out very soon and to hear more about these two teams we're heading over all the way 07:59:50.100 --> 07:59:54.500 up there! We're kids weeks! That's right, Eever, we're going to meet because we need to look at 07:59:54.500 --> 07:59:59.540 the little things that these two teams do, so please everybody come with me because we got Aurora 07:59:59.540 --> 08:00:04.260 and Falcons who both do some really, really cool things. So what we are going to look at here is 08:00:04.260 --> 08:00:08.580 that Nira is trading in the early game, so you can see you know he's kind of the one man already, 08:00:08.580 --> 08:00:12.740 but he's got his little courier friend because what you need, what he does here, is he needs a 08:00:12.740 --> 08:00:17.780 clarity and a mango. A lot of the laning stuff is about very, very small things, so where this will 08:00:17.780 --> 08:00:21.460 will come into play will be in a moment because if we look at Pior's inventory in the meantime, 08:00:21.460 --> 08:00:25.940 he's kind of low HP, 220, but he's got a fairy fire and a magic wand. So unless you keep him 08:00:25.940 --> 08:00:30.740 stun locked, obviously the brother can't die. Now let's see how they set up this scenario, 08:00:30.740 --> 08:00:35.300 because what the attention is on right now is going to be this range creep, okay, the one over here. 08:00:35.300 --> 08:00:39.060 So what they're trying to do here also with Miro's movement, he doesn't want to go in too close, 08:00:39.060 --> 08:00:43.300 right? Because if he does, well, Pior obviously, he will walk away. So what they do here is that he 08:00:43.300 --> 08:00:47.460 He keeps dangling up and down on his lion and at the same time here I want to highlight 08:00:47.460 --> 08:00:48.460 the cast fringe. 08:00:48.460 --> 08:00:52.740 Obviously if you brown stun it's a little higher than what Dota actually shows you. 08:00:52.740 --> 08:00:56.420 Because with these little and small things is the reason why they actually get this 08:00:56.420 --> 08:00:57.420 kill. 08:00:57.420 --> 08:00:59.780 Without the clarity, without the mango, you know, don't have everything, you need to 08:00:59.780 --> 08:01:01.620 burst him down, you get the kill. 08:01:01.620 --> 08:01:03.540 So these are one of the small things that they do. 08:01:03.540 --> 08:01:06.380 Now I want to show on the flip side what Aurora up to. 08:01:06.380 --> 08:01:08.260 They love playing through this guy. 08:01:08.260 --> 08:01:12.260 Nightfall is an incredibly vocal player and this is one of the things that he brings to 08:01:12.260 --> 08:01:13.260 the team. 08:01:13.260 --> 08:01:17.540 out of the lane, he will call you to come here and they love playing through the safe lane. 08:01:17.540 --> 08:01:21.540 This is one of the many many things that this team does over and over again. 08:01:21.540 --> 08:01:24.980 We will see it in this series too, because this guy, trust me, he's a yapper. 08:01:24.980 --> 08:01:28.900 He will make you come to his lane. Absolutely. He does it here again. 08:01:28.900 --> 08:01:31.540 There's a different game that they play. He's like, yo, come bottom. 08:01:31.540 --> 08:01:34.680 He starts pinging because he knows that there's a high chance, you know, minute eight, 08:01:34.680 --> 08:01:37.700 Offlane is gonna lurk here, so they get the 1 plus 1 connection. 08:01:37.700 --> 08:01:42.100 They get the kill on 33 and it's always also about the follow up play. 08:01:42.100 --> 08:01:45.660 When you know that you killed the offlaner, he's very likely to come back to the offlane, right? 08:01:45.660 --> 08:01:50.080 So you can see here 33, he's here. I'm showing his perspective. He doesn't really know what's going on 08:01:50.260 --> 08:01:55.300 Nobody's mid, nobody's bottom, and even if this turns into a play, which it does, look how they're attacking 08:01:55.300 --> 08:01:58.080 You have two guys on the side, you got Bane on the left with Night Vision 08:01:58.080 --> 08:02:02.260 Here's even the kisses like raining in from super high range without that much committal 08:02:02.860 --> 08:02:08.300 So you have one little, you know, guy who's gonna die, Kayori on the Bane, doesn't really matter. A lot of teams here 08:02:08.300 --> 08:02:11.220 They would cut the playoff, but instead this is 20 seconds later 08:02:11.220 --> 08:02:16.220 Now I'm showing Ari's, you know, perspective. He doesn't see much. Mira is still here, Nightfall is still here, 08:02:16.220 --> 08:02:21.220 because when you think about the other heroes, look at them. They don't have any TP's left. They went here earlier, they now had to go to base, 08:02:21.220 --> 08:02:27.220 so one play leads into the other. And Falcons, this was something very cool that they did just today. 08:02:27.220 --> 08:02:32.220 Snake in here goes to the rune and he dropped his smoke prior. He doesn't want the enemy team to know that, 08:02:32.220 --> 08:02:37.220 yo guys, I've got a level one smoke and we didn't use it yet. So what they do, they get boots starting items on Marine, 08:02:37.220 --> 08:02:41.420 So you can block the wave because he's going up against a Viper which is a dog shit matchup 08:02:41.420 --> 08:02:45.580 We just whispered literally dodged the matchup in the draft and put someone else there 08:02:45.580 --> 08:02:48.700 So they smoke both supports they come from the sides 08:02:48.700 --> 08:02:55.980 They pincer him and they go under slaughter at the same time and these are the small things that the proteins actually do because if you don't 08:02:56.020 --> 08:03:00.780 You can't just allow yourself to get cooked. You gotta counter-cook these guys. You gotta have the good gameplay 08:03:00.780 --> 08:03:02.980 You gotta turn it around so Aurora versus Falcons 08:03:02.980 --> 08:03:07.500 I'm expecting some cool stuff in the early game because otherwise we might be going to 80 minutes 08:03:09.340 --> 08:03:15.020 Thank you very much. Kassu, this is all assuming the game is decided in the first 10 minutes 08:03:17.580 --> 08:03:22.760 No, we have a lot to talk about here these two teams and with these two extra dishes to my panel jankers 08:03:22.760 --> 08:03:24.500 Effie, Effie, how we doing? 08:03:24.500 --> 08:03:25.700 Yeah, I'm excited 08:03:25.700 --> 08:03:30.200 I mean Kassu showed us a good reason why we should look forward to really good gameplay 08:03:30.200 --> 08:03:34.480 But we talked to Kpilos might as well after Aurora one and he said 08:03:35.040 --> 08:03:40.000 They're excited to play Falcons again because they got cheese earlier in the group stage 08:03:40.000 --> 08:03:42.700 He said they kind of cheese this and I think we can cut them this time 08:03:42.700 --> 08:03:46.460 They can't beat them with real dota that I mean if you're Falcons and you hear that you're like 08:03:46.460 --> 08:03:50.760 What's this guy talking about? I mean, they're gonna show it today then if you feel like you lost two cheese heroes 08:03:51.440 --> 08:03:53.440 But would you then cheese them again? 08:03:54.240 --> 08:03:59.200 Falcons should definitely double down and cheese them one more time like screw these screw these people 08:03:59.200 --> 08:04:02.200 I mean a lot of Dota these days is just cheese. 08:04:02.200 --> 08:04:06.200 Why did the bird play when I said Dota? 08:04:06.200 --> 08:04:08.200 Because, no, it's like you said cheese. 08:04:08.200 --> 08:04:09.200 Birds like cheese. 08:04:09.200 --> 08:04:10.200 Wait, wait a minute. 08:04:11.200 --> 08:04:12.200 They're just orangy. 08:04:12.200 --> 08:04:13.200 Dota. 08:04:13.200 --> 08:04:15.200 No, it didn't happen when you said Dota. 08:04:15.200 --> 08:04:16.200 But there was this storm. 08:04:17.200 --> 08:04:18.200 Cheese. Cheese. 08:04:19.200 --> 08:04:20.200 Dawkins. 08:04:22.200 --> 08:04:23.200 Storm. 08:04:23.200 --> 08:04:25.200 I lost my train of thought here, Kezu. 08:04:25.200 --> 08:04:26.200 That was a great analysis. 08:04:26.200 --> 08:04:28.200 That's a good introduction for you for the panel. 08:04:28.200 --> 08:04:32.440 panel. I've got something for you to talk about if you want. All right. Yeah, we can show the brackets. 08:04:32.440 --> 08:04:36.920 Yeah, teams got here. Let's watch. Both teams have had quite the road here. 08:04:39.000 --> 08:04:44.680 They have had quite the road here. Shever, Aurora Gaming, Team Falcons, Falcons looked 08:04:45.480 --> 08:04:51.320 unbeatable in the group stage. They, I think, by far, okay, maybe not by far. Paravision looked 08:04:51.320 --> 08:04:54.920 about at the same point. I want to change what I was going to say. Oh, this is the one. Never mind. 08:04:54.920 --> 08:05:00.020 that's the right one that's right yeah keep it up keep it up Jenkins upper 08:05:00.020 --> 08:05:06.380 bracket our vision for you go ahead yeah you take over this is television have 08:05:06.380 --> 08:05:09.440 looked like the strongest team in the tournament I think their win versus 08:05:09.440 --> 08:05:12.940 Falcons and now they win versus spirit have really cemented them now as the 08:05:12.940 --> 08:05:17.100 team to beat the ones with the best ideas but Aurora are looking really hot in 08:05:17.100 --> 08:05:21.500 their journey too yesterday we were kind of saying that maybe they had an easier 08:05:21.500 --> 08:05:26.840 journey to the point they were in in the tournament than other teams and over time during particular 08:05:26.840 --> 08:05:31.480 who had to play versus more difficult matchups, but Aurora showed us that that was not the case. 08:05:31.480 --> 08:05:33.480 Like yesterday they were on fire because they... 08:05:33.480 --> 08:05:37.880 No, this team is very, very good. I've been very impressed with honestly all of their players. 08:05:37.880 --> 08:05:42.800 You know, I think WS, he's super good in the off-lane nightfall, is probably one of his most prime forms 08:05:42.800 --> 08:05:46.560 that I've ever seen this player be in. Like he is one of the best carries in the world. 08:05:46.560 --> 08:05:49.400 And I think Falcons early against Playtime, they struggled. 08:05:49.400 --> 08:05:52.520 I think if playtime was a team with slightly more experience, 08:05:52.520 --> 08:05:55.640 there is a high chance Falcons could have gone down like 0-2 in that series. 08:05:55.640 --> 08:05:56.920 That's what no one said as well. 08:05:56.920 --> 08:06:00.920 Insanity thinks that playtime is a proper good team, 08:06:00.920 --> 08:06:03.160 and they should have at least won one of those games. 08:06:03.160 --> 08:06:03.640 That's true. 08:06:03.640 --> 08:06:05.800 And they were so close, but lacking a bit of experience, 08:06:05.800 --> 08:06:07.160 you know, so you're gonna go down against Falcons, 08:06:07.160 --> 08:06:09.160 which maybe today they can bring that experience, 08:06:09.160 --> 08:06:12.440 but I would also give a slight edge to Aurora myself in this series. 08:06:13.400 --> 08:06:13.880 Would you? 08:06:13.880 --> 08:06:16.520 I mean, I feel like playtime had the momentum coming in, 08:06:16.520 --> 08:06:18.200 and that's something that's always really scary 08:06:18.200 --> 08:06:22.280 for these like tier one caliber teams. I mean Aurora has been on the cusp. 08:06:25.320 --> 08:06:30.040 Aurora has been on the cusp for so long. Like it really feels like at this point they should 08:06:30.040 --> 08:06:35.640 have won a tournament but they haven't. So what is it that they're lacking? We did see them in 08:06:35.640 --> 08:06:42.680 a grand finals. Two grand finals. Two grand finals and it felt like in those there was some maybe 08:06:42.680 --> 08:06:47.080 choking or something psychological that was happening there because they did not, I've 08:06:47.080 --> 08:06:50.420 I've recalled they did not play at the same caliber that we saw in the entire tournament. 08:06:50.420 --> 08:06:55.520 They played at the, obviously, the last Valachian, but also the last complete finals. 08:06:55.520 --> 08:06:58.320 I think that's mine. Both times. 08:06:58.320 --> 08:07:05.600 Yeah, I think, so for Aurora, I would attribute that to maybe having less versatility than the heroes that they can play, 08:07:05.600 --> 08:07:12.600 and not holding them back in the grand finals situations where we see that often grand finals have their own medals and new heroes show up. 08:07:12.600 --> 08:07:13.100 That's a good point. 08:07:13.100 --> 08:07:15.100 And things that you weren't considering before happen. 08:07:15.100 --> 08:07:15.600 That's true. 08:07:15.600 --> 08:07:20.880 But they are expanding in this tournament. Yesterday Makoto played Smappfire, which was a new hero to add for him. 08:07:20.880 --> 08:07:24.400 We saw Kauri play Vayne, and he actually puffed off on it. 08:07:24.400 --> 08:07:28.720 So adding a new hero to his pool, and yeah, there seems to be more progress for them. 08:07:29.600 --> 08:07:34.480 Crazy, because Mira has been the one that's playing only four heroes in this tournament. 08:07:35.280 --> 08:07:36.800 Just sticking to his lion. 08:07:36.800 --> 08:07:41.360 Lion hoodwink every game, right? Which is so funny. I think they were trying to solve... 08:07:41.360 --> 08:07:50.360 Like everyone also is so focused on Kaori in terms of the bands, that Mira's heroes just get through, and he's willing to play the same stuff every single game. 08:07:50.360 --> 08:07:57.360 We saw the Lion clip that you linked. He makes that look like a really, really good hero, where other teams are not picking it as much. 08:07:57.360 --> 08:08:03.360 That looks very good, especially with a lot of the offlaners that you do see, and they're taking both of them out. 08:08:03.360 --> 08:08:06.360 The hoodwink in the Lion, make Mira uncomfortable. 08:08:06.360 --> 08:08:13.480 comfortable. WS popped off on Timber yesterday and that hero is nasty and it's also left 08:08:13.480 --> 08:08:19.680 in the pool versus the team with the best Timber. WS looked really on point so I do 08:08:19.680 --> 08:08:26.000 wonder if Timber will be pre-addressed within the first phase or first phase. It has to 08:08:26.000 --> 08:08:30.520 be sure that will be picked in the series. Maybe the pre-address is okay I was going 08:08:30.520 --> 08:08:36.080 to say maybe a Rupic but alone is rude left in the pool considering the mirror supports 08:08:36.080 --> 08:08:41.120 were taken out maybe that's the trade as you say that's okay to like leave the 08:08:41.120 --> 08:08:44.960 timber and if we get the hero that was considered to be like the most overpowered 08:08:44.960 --> 08:08:49.440 at the start of the tournament it is somewhat interesting so long druid is 08:08:49.440 --> 08:08:53.960 great I know that nightfall can play it I personally slightly prefer him on heroes 08:08:53.960 --> 08:08:57.600 that like do well in lane which loan does of course but also that move around I 08:08:57.600 --> 08:09:01.080 think his earth and wind ranger is very very good I would also assume that 08:09:01.080 --> 08:09:05.160 falcons have a lot of heroes overall that they like that are okay against the 08:09:05.160 --> 08:09:11.160 You know, Pangolier, Titehunter, An'Lalor, the Timber that you mentioned as well, it's totally okay against Lounderwood. 08:09:11.160 --> 08:09:17.160 So I want to see how Aurora like, expand on this, because to me, I don't think Falcons care that much about it. 08:09:18.160 --> 08:09:27.160 This could be one of those scenarios where a hero is banned for the entire tournament, and so it finally gets through, 08:09:27.160 --> 08:09:33.160 and it's like this frog check sort of situation where maybe like Aurora regrets even picking it in the first place, 08:09:33.160 --> 08:09:39.160 because maybe it just wasn't that good, you know, but it's been banned the whole time so we never got to test it. 08:09:40.160 --> 08:09:48.160 I mean, Timber's got to get eliminated here, more picked by Falcons, right, because against Tiny, it's like, this looks like the best hero in the game. 08:09:49.160 --> 08:09:56.160 That is an interesting point with Lundred, because the last couple of times I've seen him be let through, he has lost. 08:09:56.160 --> 08:10:06.160 But it does take a lot to address the hero within your draft anyway, and maybe it does lead to a loss, but maybe you can use that discomfort within the draft to your advantage. 08:10:06.160 --> 08:10:12.160 Like, let's say they have to pick two heroes to deal with the Lingerhead, pick a hero that counters the two heroes, right? 08:10:12.160 --> 08:10:16.160 Yeah, obviously, like, a lot of the drafting is also, like, just how you build on top. 08:10:16.160 --> 08:10:23.160 And as first pick, you want to, like, try to pressure the opposing team, and maybe Aurora do have the read, right, that you're saying where it's like, 08:10:23.160 --> 08:10:28.720 It's like, okay, we have this loan, it could force them into like specific heroes that maybe they don't want or the heroes that they will take 08:10:28.720 --> 08:10:32.400 We have those type of answers for it. So I'm just like looking forward to see this 08:10:32.400 --> 08:10:35.760 I think also when you are in a BO3 the first game is where you can 08:10:36.080 --> 08:10:41.160 Test out some of those things. It's like, okay, now we get it. Let's try it out if it works. Holy shit. That's great 08:10:41.160 --> 08:10:47.520 If not, okay, scrap it back to the other ideas. Do you guys consider it active on a carry? 08:10:47.520 --> 08:10:52.920 If you're running around with the bear doing stuff stealing runes like fearing people away from runes 08:10:52.920 --> 08:10:59.280 If you're doing like this Titanic style laundry where you're like farming with the main guy and having all your items on him 08:10:59.280 --> 08:11:04.860 And then using the bear to do stuff. It's not killing people. Is this considered like active enough for nightfall? 08:11:05.280 --> 08:11:09.520 To me it takes a lot like to me lawn is more like an alchemist in the first 18 minutes 08:11:09.680 --> 08:11:14.880 He farms his mouse from he's gonna farm his me only and then he gets agonist and then his hero is like then he's a be here 08:11:14.880 --> 08:11:16.880 You go be free my bear 08:11:16.880 --> 08:11:22.600 Okay, well timbersaw not gone just straight up picked five thousands and it's rubic out as well 08:11:22.600 --> 08:11:26.180 That's uh, that was like the one hero for me. I was thinking that would 08:11:27.040 --> 08:11:29.040 Make the timber look rough 08:11:29.120 --> 08:11:34.560 I'm really interested because timber in the last couple days. You guys mentioned it. I've seen it 08:11:34.560 --> 08:11:39.440 I don't know what the best answer to this here is I've seen SF clock. It didn't work 08:11:39.440 --> 08:11:43.640 The best answer was bonding it. Well, yeah, just so strong. Sadly. They didn't do that 08:11:43.640 --> 08:11:48.760 So they're gonna if they must have an idea. I would not see it. I think it's just 08:11:49.640 --> 08:11:55.560 Yesterday when I saw the timbersaw, I thought that there wasn't enough magic damage to kill it because well the hero looks 08:11:56.200 --> 08:12:00.520 Insane in terms of a couple of players. It's still lost a lot of games this time 08:12:01.080 --> 08:12:05.480 Like in the past you'd see a timber and you'd pick like a bat rider and try to run at him consistently 08:12:05.800 --> 08:12:08.600 That hero not so good anymore, but you can find replacements 08:12:08.600 --> 08:12:11.480 And SF alone is not enough. 08:12:11.480 --> 08:12:17.480 There's some really good counters that work historically, like Lash, Batrider as you mentioned, 08:12:17.480 --> 08:12:18.480 OD. 08:12:18.480 --> 08:12:21.440 It's unfortunate a lot of the heroes that historically are very good against Timber are 08:12:21.440 --> 08:12:26.860 just bad right now, but I agree, when a hero looks like it's such a problem, you can go 08:12:26.860 --> 08:12:30.800 to those pocket counters and answer it. 08:12:30.800 --> 08:12:40.800 Slaughter is an interesting one because if you can amp Timber before he gets reactive stacks up, you can actually burst him. 08:12:40.800 --> 08:12:44.800 It's okay. It's not a counter, but it's okay. 08:12:44.800 --> 08:12:50.800 I want to see how else they pair it up with. Obviously, you want more magic damage with it. 08:12:50.800 --> 08:12:57.800 Maybe, you know, some techies, something else that you can throw in there into the pool is totally okay because you need mix damage against Timber. 08:12:57.800 --> 08:13:00.500 Against Timber, he can very easily itemize for just one. 08:13:00.500 --> 08:13:04.500 Like having a Lotus Orb or your Ags, he'll be invincible if he gets there against these heroes. 08:13:04.500 --> 08:13:09.500 The only other thing I see, so obviously you're proposing like the physical from Laundry and Slaughter, 08:13:09.500 --> 08:13:13.500 you have very very strong Lich and Winter Wyvern picks for team Falcons, 08:13:13.500 --> 08:13:15.500 maybe even Phoenix, like lowering attack speed. 08:13:15.500 --> 08:13:17.500 Um, little of a... 08:13:17.500 --> 08:13:20.000 Lich and Phoenix for everyone, can work quite nicely. 08:13:20.000 --> 08:13:21.000 Yes, that's true. 08:13:21.000 --> 08:13:25.600 The Subni versus both Tidean Timber, Ultra Value, and the Switched Online versus Timber Slaw 08:13:25.600 --> 08:13:30.320 can actually help you kill the hero often enough, but they go for the specialty, like 08:13:30.320 --> 08:13:32.560 how are you classic? 08:13:32.560 --> 08:13:36.260 This helps, they needed some magic damage, and it's K.O.R.I's best hero. 08:13:36.260 --> 08:13:40.160 This guy on Phoenix and Warlock is an absolute different beast. 08:13:40.160 --> 08:13:46.700 It's pretty crazy to see a good Phoenix game in the hands of K.O.R.I, like usually he picks 08:13:46.700 --> 08:13:49.720 it so early that it's like not a good Phoenix game. 08:13:49.720 --> 08:13:54.600 He's playing against them like Muerta and all these counters, but because this draft 08:13:54.600 --> 08:13:57.000 has like worked out in an interesting way. 08:13:57.000 --> 08:13:58.960 He actually gets it in a very nice position. 08:14:00.280 --> 08:14:02.320 So there are a couple heroes that do stand out. 08:14:02.320 --> 08:14:05.560 I still think the Lich is totally good for Falcons. 08:14:05.560 --> 08:14:06.720 They love this hero. 08:14:06.720 --> 08:14:07.960 They'll also go with the Pango, 08:14:07.960 --> 08:14:09.560 which is somewhat interesting. 08:14:09.560 --> 08:14:11.520 Maybe they just feel like if they don't take it here, 08:14:11.520 --> 08:14:13.000 they would never get it later on. 08:14:13.000 --> 08:14:16.240 And Malrin has looked insane on Pango. 08:14:16.240 --> 08:14:20.000 You know what's really good against Pango and Timberstaw? 08:14:20.000 --> 08:14:21.120 Grimstroke. 08:14:21.120 --> 08:14:21.960 Yeah. 08:14:21.960 --> 08:14:22.800 Grimstroke is great. 08:14:22.800 --> 08:14:28.180 Timber disarms himself and he throws up the trochrum so you can't kill the bug and then you leash the pango 08:14:28.400 --> 08:14:34.320 So who would play it? It would be Mira. He can definitely play it. Sure. You can also ink swell the bear, which is quite nice 08:14:34.320 --> 08:14:36.320 It's always like a very cool combo 08:14:37.880 --> 08:14:40.680 Which one of his other heroes has he has played 08:14:41.320 --> 08:14:45.520 Clockwork is the only other one. Most of them are leaning it into the game. They did you monkey? 08:14:46.840 --> 08:14:49.800 So go for the core instead. Mm-hmm 08:14:49.800 --> 08:14:53.800 There we go for the Makoto Monkey King. He's very very good at this hero. 08:14:53.800 --> 08:14:58.800 It's also like one of the OG matchups, which does quite well into the pango. 08:14:58.800 --> 08:15:03.800 Like shutting down Melvin against Falcon says, it's always a very good idea if you can execute it. 08:15:03.800 --> 08:15:08.800 He's just very good at, you know, like not getting beat up too hard even in those hard things. 08:15:08.800 --> 08:15:16.800 And when I look at mid Monkey King, I think about what's going to happen when he eventually runs at the enemy side lanes, 08:15:16.800 --> 08:15:17.800 especially with this wave. 08:15:17.800 --> 08:15:18.800 Meteor. 08:15:18.800 --> 08:15:25.000 And it does seem like he can have good rotations, but they can also react to it very well. 08:15:25.000 --> 08:15:28.000 Like you have this glitched armor early on that can be very disruptive. 08:15:28.000 --> 08:15:32.200 You have this timbersaw TP that can potentially cut down a tree or two. 08:15:32.200 --> 08:15:36.800 So if Falcons are not sleeping, I do think that the monkey king is not as threatening 08:15:36.800 --> 08:15:39.400 as he actually looks in this position. 08:15:39.400 --> 08:15:40.600 I kind of agree with you. 08:15:40.600 --> 08:15:45.480 I think especially also, like you're saying, he wants to go to lanes that are like pressuring 08:15:45.480 --> 08:15:49.720 or like pushing in, which obviously Lone can push the lane into Timber, but you never really 08:15:49.720 --> 08:15:54.600 put in below like 80% HP. It's not that easy to kill this hero as a monkey, so you're likely 08:15:54.600 --> 08:15:58.760 looking to go into your offlane, which is I think the next pick for them matters even more, 08:15:58.760 --> 08:16:02.760 like finding a hero for Mira where when they have the slaughter, plus the support together, 08:16:02.760 --> 08:16:06.360 that you're pressuring the Tiny and the Lich, so Mikoto can go there and feel good about it. 08:16:07.240 --> 08:16:13.560 I think that Grimm's suggestion by Jenkins is a really great one. I know that Vayne is trending 08:16:13.560 --> 08:16:17.560 Super Highly versus Pringo, but playing it in a position where I may feel awkward. 08:16:19.160 --> 08:16:22.360 There's also like a white wearing curse that you could play with potentially. 08:16:24.680 --> 08:16:28.360 I mean if there wasn't, not advantage anyway. I thought maybe still like the techie. 08:16:28.360 --> 08:16:33.240 There's still like magic damage would be nice. Like Aurora Strike or is like ultimate physical. 08:16:33.240 --> 08:16:36.280 Oh, I got a good one. I got a good one. This one's a long shot. 08:16:36.280 --> 08:16:37.320 There's some Zeus. 08:16:37.320 --> 08:16:38.280 Guy Ratmaid. 08:16:38.280 --> 08:16:39.400 Oh, Guy. 08:16:40.120 --> 08:16:42.200 There's silence. Not bad, I think. 08:16:42.200 --> 08:16:47.800 If it answers the timber, both sides, how do I need that POS form? 08:16:47.800 --> 08:16:50.600 Willow would have been a really great pick. This is a good ban. 08:16:50.600 --> 08:16:58.600 The problem, while I like Sky, it's such a good Lotus Orb and 4 staff game that Falcons always play around, maybe it owns the hero too hard. 08:17:00.600 --> 08:17:08.200 I think Neko needs to be solved though. I mean if you let Tango go through without a BQ, because I'm disabled, you've made the game harder. 08:17:08.200 --> 08:17:12.200 So maybe go back to the vein you mentioned or the Grim that Jenkins called out. 08:17:12.200 --> 08:17:18.700 What if Falcons goes for Grim and then they get the double Lichelt? But that's a vein like it's called. 08:17:18.700 --> 08:17:24.700 Yeah, I'm curious what the vein, because I've not seen it from Physician 5, it's looked great on Physician 5. 08:17:24.700 --> 08:17:31.700 But the best thing about Bane versus Pango has been when he's paired with a ranged turret, doesn't actually exist in this game. 08:17:31.700 --> 08:17:34.700 Like yes, he will be grouping the Pango, but he's going to be hitting him. 08:17:34.700 --> 08:17:44.700 I guess BKB is most long-lasting, it's not the cleanest solution, but it does exist and it's very helpful versus Timbersaw as well, the Managing should not be underestimated. 08:17:44.700 --> 08:17:54.700 I think it's good, there's like also added stuff within Feeble, right? Like against the Timber 2, even Tiny, like in Feeble is a very strong spell against Tiny, your damage goes down into like super low. 08:17:54.700 --> 08:18:03.700 So now the thing is for Falcons, you're looking for a crit hero, I really like Aurora's Bands, I think while we haven't seen much SD, this could have been a very, very good SD game. 08:18:03.700 --> 08:18:10.700 game. It's cool if Akans can find a hero that helps you dodge, not dodge, but go even-ish 08:18:10.700 --> 08:18:14.700 and go for sacks. That's why I think the Ring SD bands are very, very good. 08:18:14.700 --> 08:18:18.700 Should they still go for a save-style hero, and are there any left in the pool that come 08:18:18.700 --> 08:18:25.700 to mind? That would lane well together with Timbersaw? I don't know if Tusk is an option? 08:18:25.700 --> 08:18:27.700 Like, any saves? 08:18:27.700 --> 08:18:32.700 Probably. I might be leaning more on an Avenge hero. Snap is maybe too hard to let out. 08:18:32.700 --> 08:18:33.700 That's not bad. 08:18:33.700 --> 08:18:35.980 Like, there's so many plus four heroes banned. 08:18:35.980 --> 08:18:39.180 Yeah, we're going deep in the pool here. 08:18:39.180 --> 08:18:42.780 He's played some Largo, but I think that's very passive. 08:18:42.780 --> 08:18:47.580 Maybe the Dispel is something they value in stacking. 08:18:47.580 --> 08:18:50.140 Did the Dispel versus, like, Slaughter our Phoenix Spirit? 08:18:50.140 --> 08:18:51.140 That's not bad. 08:18:51.140 --> 08:18:54.180 I have a hard time finding a Juicy here. 08:18:54.180 --> 08:18:55.180 Ooh! 08:18:55.180 --> 08:18:56.740 Position 4 Windranger coming in. 08:18:56.740 --> 08:18:59.060 Okay, it's good versus Monkey King. 08:18:59.060 --> 08:19:01.340 It's going to make it harder for him to move. 08:19:01.340 --> 08:19:02.340 Oh, it's actually Crit Tiny. 08:19:02.340 --> 08:19:04.340 Interesting! That's cool! 08:19:04.340 --> 08:19:07.340 That's a throwback. That's a cool trick. 08:19:07.340 --> 08:19:09.340 That's why they held it's interesting. 08:19:09.340 --> 08:19:11.340 It's very good against Lardar. 08:19:11.340 --> 08:19:13.340 It's good against all the three cores, right? 08:19:13.340 --> 08:19:15.340 It's a golden Windron game. 08:19:15.340 --> 08:19:17.340 There is no dispel to it. 08:19:17.340 --> 08:19:19.340 You're going to need MKBs later on the cores. 08:19:19.340 --> 08:19:21.340 Interesting. I actually really like this Windron. 08:19:21.340 --> 08:19:23.340 It's not on my finger part. 08:19:23.340 --> 08:19:25.340 Tiny is a rough four, though. 08:19:25.340 --> 08:19:29.340 You really feel the lacking of the fast fit 08:19:29.340 --> 08:19:31.340 where you can one-shot creep waves with Toss. 08:19:31.340 --> 08:19:36.320 Like getting to the blink dagger is way harder than it was before where you could just walk up to a wave 08:19:36.820 --> 08:19:40.260 toss the wave through a tree and then you kill the whole wave like now 08:19:40.260 --> 08:19:42.020 It is just not clean to farm on him 08:19:42.020 --> 08:19:46.060 But if there's any player in the world that can somehow make it work. It's this guy 08:19:46.260 --> 08:19:49.660 Yeah, now that time is before though you have to ask yourself 08:19:50.180 --> 08:19:56.940 Are my support good at catching the Sloan Druid there and dealing with it and like setting up for it because this is the first 08:19:56.940 --> 08:20:02.780 pick a borough's draft, is it correctly addressed? Because now it seems like their draft is stronger 08:20:02.780 --> 08:20:07.340 versus other things like the monkey king and the phoenix, but it feels a bit weaker actually against 08:20:07.340 --> 08:20:13.100 the lone druid now, so hard to say. It's funny when like an OP hero like this gets through, 08:20:13.100 --> 08:20:18.300 and then for the whole draft, it's just not really hard addressed. You would think if it's 08:20:18.300 --> 08:20:22.300 getting left through, it's because it's addressed, but maybe this is the frog check where the falcons 08:20:22.300 --> 08:20:25.820 are just saying, we just don't think this hero is that good, like you guys are overestimating it, 08:20:25.820 --> 08:20:28.700 and we're just gonna be playing normal Dota and draft run everything else. 08:20:28.700 --> 08:20:32.940 They have good core matchups overall, like I think the Windranger, Timber, Pango, 08:20:32.940 --> 08:20:36.220 as the game progresses, if they get some items, they'll be quite happy against the loan. 08:20:36.220 --> 08:20:40.060 But I like what Aurora cooked up with like the Monkey King and also the Vein that you called. 08:20:40.060 --> 08:20:43.660 I think it's quite nice against both the Pango and the lane and against them in the game. 08:20:43.660 --> 08:20:47.180 If they can shot down Maureen, which is always like a big factor for Falcons, 08:20:47.180 --> 08:20:51.020 I think they have a good shot. But overall, I would slightly prefer Falcons draft. 08:20:51.900 --> 08:20:52.860 Does Tiny do stacks? 08:20:52.860 --> 08:20:54.860 I think I'm from the street. 08:20:54.860 --> 08:20:56.860 Not really. 08:20:56.860 --> 08:20:59.860 So that's not something that they can play. 08:20:59.860 --> 08:21:01.860 He'll stack the hard camp. 08:21:01.860 --> 08:21:03.860 It's not nothing. 08:21:03.860 --> 08:21:05.860 That's good, at least. 08:21:05.860 --> 08:21:07.860 Overall, Slight Falcons leading. 08:21:07.860 --> 08:21:09.860 Any cares? 08:21:09.860 --> 08:21:12.860 I would say that if Arora went through a snowball 08:21:12.860 --> 08:21:15.860 and if they lose, they will lose a slow game. 08:21:16.860 --> 08:21:18.860 That's right, Shever. 08:21:18.860 --> 08:21:21.860 That's right. Everybody watching, that's right. 08:21:21.860 --> 08:21:24.860 We're going to head over to Odie Pixel and Fogg for game one of this series. 08:21:51.860 --> 08:22:19.860 Here we go, let's jam on spines, get the action between Aurora and Bob Puttonson. 08:22:19.860 --> 08:22:32.860 And yeah, what do we make of this? We get the good old lone druid, get him to Black Star in first pick for Aurora, and get him through Falcons Dressed. 08:22:32.860 --> 08:22:38.860 I like their draft. I like what Falcons has going for quite a bit. 08:22:38.860 --> 08:22:45.860 My worries really for Aurora is just the lack of damage variants. It's like all physical. 08:22:45.860 --> 08:22:49.700 in Phoenix, Phoenix does some pretty decent damage as a support position especially when 08:22:49.700 --> 08:22:53.140 K.R.A. is playing it, but I'm super concerned about damage for them. They're also playing 08:22:53.140 --> 08:22:57.500 it to reactive armor, attack speed slow from pango, frost shield which blocks physical 08:22:57.500 --> 08:23:01.660 damage as well too, so this is my concern for them. I think for Aurora, what Effie was 08:23:01.660 --> 08:23:05.980 talking about is the main thing I'm looking at is Mikoto having a successful lane and 08:23:05.980 --> 08:23:09.460 then snowball getting kills all over the place because I'm concerned in terms of damage 08:23:09.460 --> 08:23:11.140 if these lanes don't go very successful. 08:23:11.140 --> 08:23:18.340 Yeah, that's fair because this monkey king hero as we've seen, you know, if it doesn't snowball, it falls off the priority. 08:23:18.340 --> 08:23:19.460 It falls off completely. 08:23:19.460 --> 08:23:19.960 Yeah. 08:23:20.140 --> 08:23:22.060 And I just, I look at, you know... 08:23:22.060 --> 08:23:23.340 When it's played for the mid? 08:23:23.340 --> 08:23:24.580 Yeah, from what it's played for the mid, of course. 08:23:24.580 --> 08:23:29.620 So I just look at just, you know, on paper, we'll say, because Reactive Armor, physical bonus. 08:23:30.100 --> 08:23:32.900 Frost Armor, physical bonus. Windrun, avoids physical. 08:23:33.140 --> 08:23:34.940 Tiny, even a support, will get physical. 08:23:35.220 --> 08:23:36.140 Pango as well, too. 08:23:37.140 --> 08:23:39.980 It just feels like if they tick all the boxes in terms of being able to pressure, 08:23:39.980 --> 08:23:42.780 because Lucky Shot also attacks Speed Slow, so, yeah. 08:23:42.780 --> 08:23:45.540 I'm gonna have to wait and see how Aurora does it these lanes, 08:23:45.540 --> 08:23:46.940 see how aggressive it can be. 08:23:48.500 --> 08:23:50.140 And Nightfall, I actually need to check. 08:23:50.140 --> 08:23:52.380 How much longer does Nightfall play? 08:23:52.380 --> 08:23:53.580 All right, because what you, 08:23:53.580 --> 08:23:57.900 you wouldn't say it's the most Nightfall kind of carry hero. 08:23:57.900 --> 08:24:00.260 Doesn't feel like it to me. 08:24:04.100 --> 08:24:07.460 For me, he's like the PLs, the tiny doom, 08:24:07.460 --> 08:24:08.940 morphlings, et cetera, right? 08:24:08.940 --> 08:24:14.060 I just I don't synergize him in my mind as long so I'm gonna look at all his games 08:24:14.060 --> 08:24:16.060 Let's take a look last played it 08:24:16.300 --> 08:24:21.100 27 days ago. He has a pretty damn good win rate on it though five games though and professional 08:24:21.980 --> 08:24:23.980 percent win rate 08:24:24.860 --> 08:24:30.180 And they play for some he's picked up recently then because of the only games he's had I've been in the last month 08:24:30.180 --> 08:24:34.460 And they were all in the lock-in. Yeah, I actually he was doing very well with it all of these games 08:24:34.460 --> 08:24:39.460 I actually need to look at some of them, because I didn't see these. 08:24:39.460 --> 08:24:42.460 And the last time he played it, by the looks of it, was up against Falcons. 08:24:42.460 --> 08:24:45.460 Yep. He did own that game too, and he had... 08:24:45.460 --> 08:24:49.460 He had Storm, and Lara, Golba, and Warlock, and a couple other things too, 08:24:49.460 --> 08:24:51.460 but they snowballed pretty hard in that game, so yep. 08:24:51.460 --> 08:24:54.460 Let's see how they can do with Nightfall on this fair, 08:24:54.460 --> 08:24:56.460 and let's see if they can get that snowball going, 08:24:56.460 --> 08:24:59.460 and get that big advantage around this monkey kingdom. 08:24:59.460 --> 08:25:02.460 First wave, very successful for him, versus the pango. 08:25:04.460 --> 08:25:09.460 And does this sort of mid-match-up stay pretty monkey-king-favorite? 08:25:09.460 --> 08:25:11.460 Yep, overall. 08:25:11.460 --> 08:25:16.460 However, we've seen a lot of these pangos to be able to endure it because they have double nuke, so it does stay monkey-king-favorite, 08:25:16.460 --> 08:25:21.460 but it's one of those heroes that you have to be very careful with not to make these mistakes because it can compound very quickly. 08:25:21.460 --> 08:25:25.460 Other thing we do have to talk about, right, is Crit Plank Support Tiny. 08:25:25.460 --> 08:25:30.460 This is not really a support hero, but I guess they really didn't want to play that match-up into the Phoenix in particular, 08:25:30.460 --> 08:25:32.460 in particular with a tiny... 08:25:32.460 --> 08:25:34.460 with the best counter in particular. 08:25:34.460 --> 08:25:36.460 We'll see how much he can actually do with this hero. 08:25:38.460 --> 08:25:40.460 It's pretty hard to have an impact as for Tiny now. 08:25:40.460 --> 08:25:42.460 Even though it's one of his most comfortable, 08:25:42.460 --> 08:25:44.460 like one of his top-side heroes, of course, 08:25:44.460 --> 08:25:46.460 in the past, 08:25:46.460 --> 08:25:48.460 it does not contribute too much 08:25:48.460 --> 08:25:50.460 in Ladyface. 08:25:52.460 --> 08:25:54.460 It has to be very careful against these two. 08:25:56.460 --> 08:25:58.460 It makes so far. 08:25:58.460 --> 08:26:02.260 bit of a drag here, Amar. He's gonna be slowed down, but I think we've seen this over and 08:26:02.260 --> 08:26:06.860 over again for these Timbersaults, right? Lane, got pretty badly, and then he's top 08:26:06.860 --> 08:26:08.340 two net worth after doing some ancient games. 08:26:08.340 --> 08:26:13.220 Yeah, and that will very likely be the case when it's Amar playing. He doesn't tend to 08:26:13.220 --> 08:26:18.900 miss when he's on the Timbersault. Great control of Lane so far here from 9-7, getting pretty 08:26:18.900 --> 08:26:22.100 much every single one of these denies, ensuring that they're not getting too much out of 08:26:22.100 --> 08:26:26.600 Top CWs having difficulties but nowhere near as similar. 08:26:34.100 --> 08:26:37.100 The lanes absolutely set up for success for Aurora. 08:26:40.100 --> 08:26:47.100 Just a question, how easy is it going to be for Makoto to make those moves off the back of a solid starting the lanes? 08:26:47.100 --> 08:26:50.100 Or is it during what he's going to be turning up to in those side lanes? 08:26:50.100 --> 08:26:58.100 Or if they can make moves to him, that's the other thing too, because they do have the bane versus the pango too, so at some points early they can't look to just play around Makoto, especially if the lanes go super well. 08:26:58.100 --> 08:27:04.100 Like, he doesn't need to move bottom by any means on this monkey king if he does have the successful mid lane. He can look to press your top. 08:27:05.100 --> 08:27:07.100 A lot of highs on him at least for me. 08:27:10.100 --> 08:27:11.100 And obviously with that switch, yep. 08:27:11.100 --> 08:27:12.100 He stepped up. 08:27:14.100 --> 08:27:15.100 He's dead. 08:27:15.100 --> 08:27:17.100 He's gonna be going down first blood for Corey. 08:27:17.100 --> 08:27:28.100 Can't step up first for these two, never versus the Laundryrd in particular, who has the Arbor Corrosion picked up, I think this is one of the few heroes I think that still buys this item, I think almost nobody else wants to buy it nowadays. 08:27:28.100 --> 08:27:33.100 Yeah, I think pretty much right. I don't think I've seen anyone else pick this up nowadays. 08:27:33.100 --> 08:27:40.100 Yeah, I was talking with Quinn about it, because I know he's one of the players that used to play the Monkey King in the mid lane which bought this Corrosion. 08:27:40.100 --> 08:27:46.100 The numbers on it just feel kind of weird when you upgrade it, so see how much he can do it, and it does of course have its merits. 08:27:46.100 --> 08:27:48.420 Heal negation is always going to be good versus a timber. 08:27:52.580 --> 08:27:53.580 Top lane. 08:27:53.860 --> 08:28:00.700 Obviously with that switch up, having the windrangers carry this game obviously means you're not the biggest fans of the windranger carry, but we should talk about that, yes. 08:28:00.700 --> 08:28:04.900 You were saying to me right, you see all these matchups, and 08:28:05.220 --> 08:28:10.020 if there is going to be a game where the windranger carry has a pretty good time, it probably is something like that. 08:28:10.020 --> 08:28:12.740 I know me and you really, really don't like it, but I was telling you, exactly. 08:28:12.740 --> 08:28:15.940 I'm like, versus Florida, it's physical damage. Versus Monkey King, physical damage. 08:28:15.940 --> 08:28:20.340 Versus Laundry as well, physical. And they're heroes that have to get on top of you because it's all melee heroes as well, too. 08:28:20.340 --> 08:28:23.540 So, can see the reason as to why they didn't switch it up from corner. 08:28:24.740 --> 08:28:30.340 Instead of there on tonightfall, it's got the fear to push them back, snaking, not quite able to get in range. 08:28:30.340 --> 08:28:33.740 Get that further bit of control on turns, tonightfall will stay fine. 08:28:34.340 --> 08:28:35.340 That was close. 08:28:35.740 --> 08:28:37.940 Steps up again, will be okay. 08:28:37.940 --> 08:28:40.340 So, looks like they've made... Do you think they're just trialing this now? 08:28:40.340 --> 08:28:44.540 Looks like they will, but also Aurora in position for it, I'm trying to get the bat. 08:28:44.540 --> 08:28:46.740 Mera turning up here with Kori. 08:28:47.740 --> 08:28:52.340 The nightmare setup, that's going to get the fresh backup to full HP. 08:28:52.340 --> 08:28:57.340 They'll turn with the Avalanche, Kori will die, but they have managed to set up for Aurora. 08:28:57.740 --> 08:29:01.940 To maybe get both of these kills in my hope, you only get down to the low ground with the timber chain. 08:29:01.940 --> 08:29:03.540 But he is super low HP. 08:29:03.540 --> 08:29:07.340 They might just leave him at the P. I don't know if Na'Vi is going to want to waste time chasing Eve away. 08:29:07.340 --> 08:29:12.340 He's gonna be able to timber chain TP back out. We'll go all the way back to the base without to refuel 08:29:12.340 --> 08:29:16.900 Oh, I said it was a tri-lane, but it's actually a quad lane versus a tri-lane of course because the lone druid's there 08:29:16.900 --> 08:29:21.500 So unfortunate for them and they can't actually lane versus it since that varies just insane in the laning phase 08:29:21.700 --> 08:29:26.960 Cool little combo though the toss back onto the onto the whirling death with the eight trees around them 08:29:26.960 --> 08:29:28.960 It's a lot more burst damage than I think they anticipated 08:29:29.340 --> 08:29:30.860 so play 08:29:30.860 --> 08:29:34.940 Try to get some setup on speed up the wind runs there maybe with some body blocks though 08:29:34.940 --> 08:29:40.940 Meribook is some of the Shackle that does hold back WS, so speeder will still be able to run. 08:29:40.940 --> 08:29:46.940 Nice try with the body box. Shackle giving that extra movement speed of course, so we'll be able to skirt himself away. 08:29:46.940 --> 08:29:48.940 So lanes, they're being broken. 08:29:49.940 --> 08:29:54.940 I mean, Snifle is going to get full free fart, they're looking to play around this Monkey King success now too, so far. 08:29:54.940 --> 08:29:58.940 Looking very good for Aurora with the lane pressure that they've gone for here. 08:29:58.940 --> 08:30:03.940 They're keeping Maureen slowed down and they're also slowing down a Mars game quite a bit. 08:30:04.940 --> 08:30:06.440 Doing exactly what they need to do. 08:30:06.440 --> 08:30:06.940 Top. 08:30:06.940 --> 08:30:08.940 Crypt comes in with a rotation. 08:30:08.940 --> 08:30:10.940 It'll be there to make an effort onto WS. 08:30:10.940 --> 08:30:11.440 Ooh, that's nice. 08:30:11.440 --> 08:30:13.440 They hit the shackles, blood grenade on towards him. 08:30:13.440 --> 08:30:17.440 Oh, get the bash on Crypt to hold him back for the blasters up from snaking. 08:30:17.440 --> 08:30:19.940 Three of them find the tail stand time in the mid. 08:30:19.940 --> 08:30:20.940 Look at the type 4. 08:30:20.940 --> 08:30:23.440 Boundless strike comes in, but the shield crash is already out. 08:30:23.440 --> 08:30:26.940 I'm already having a lot of detection to get back onto tier 2. 08:30:26.940 --> 08:30:28.940 They didn't get the Lotus buff onto WS. 08:30:28.940 --> 08:30:30.940 Bit too much burst damage from the Lich. 08:30:30.940 --> 08:30:34.260 Alright, looking to continue pressure, he has shield crash. 08:30:34.860 --> 08:30:35.980 Hard for the cool here. 08:30:35.980 --> 08:30:39.180 Difficult to kill him and now back-ups come across, and maaa, I'm caught off. 08:30:39.180 --> 08:30:42.940 I'm starting to turn up towards the member cutter, trying to build up the jingoo stacks, but he can't off! 08:30:43.500 --> 08:30:44.980 So get punished for that one. 08:30:44.980 --> 08:30:45.820 That's not really cool. 08:30:45.820 --> 08:30:48.220 I've been pushing a little too much there beyond the tier one tower. 08:30:48.220 --> 08:30:50.860 Very easy defense to come in from Falcon's reaction. 08:30:50.860 --> 08:30:53.260 That's quite a painful death for the Monkey King. 08:30:53.260 --> 08:30:56.780 You want to be able to put as much pressure as possible as we said, little mistakes. 08:30:57.420 --> 08:31:00.300 Not able to get that Wukong's off and go for the full tower here, can they? 08:31:00.300 --> 08:31:02.740 steal the wisdom here, and I thought he's 6. 08:31:04.240 --> 08:31:06.640 It looks like Falcons are gonna steal as well though. 08:31:07.140 --> 08:31:09.700 I think you get the trade, it's probably the best option, 08:31:09.700 --> 08:31:12.980 trying to fight the lone druid for the wisdom on their side. 08:31:12.980 --> 08:31:14.380 It's not really easy. 08:31:14.380 --> 08:31:18.980 The toss, he's gonna be able to jump in and Fat Makoto comes across the Aurora. 08:31:19.780 --> 08:31:24.380 Will manage to hold their own Shrine of Wisdom, and will with that, get both of them. 08:31:24.620 --> 08:31:26.980 Very good response, it's very good movement, Makoto. 08:31:26.980 --> 08:31:29.900 Does die in the mid, but makes up for it immediately with that rotation. 08:31:30.300 --> 08:31:36.900 WS is very much so struggling though on this Lord, they're going to need a way to recover 08:31:36.900 --> 08:31:37.900 for him. 08:31:37.900 --> 08:31:41.580 I don't think they can leave him alone, I think Mira has to continue play up here. 08:31:41.580 --> 08:31:42.580 Look for Skeeter. 08:31:42.580 --> 08:31:46.060 Skeeter is very close to 6 though and they are looking for another setup onto this Lord 08:31:46.060 --> 08:31:52.420 R. Not having focus fire just yet though, can't go for the kill, but very soon. 08:31:52.420 --> 08:32:03.420 If Mira leaves him alone, pulling the lane into a more comfortable position is done from WS. 08:32:03.420 --> 08:32:09.420 Players are so good at doing that nowadays, just dragging the wave all the way back to the tower. 08:32:11.420 --> 08:32:15.420 Power rune will be there for Makoto, denied away from the pango. 08:32:15.420 --> 08:32:16.420 go. 08:32:16.420 --> 08:32:21.940 Let's see if we can get the set up on to the snag king and he will, nightmares there, sets 08:32:21.940 --> 08:32:24.740 up for Corey and Makoto to swing across. 08:32:24.740 --> 08:32:27.580 Get a kill here before the monkey king. 08:32:27.580 --> 08:32:28.580 Give it up. 08:32:28.580 --> 08:32:30.740 Enable Makoto as much as possible. 08:32:30.740 --> 08:32:32.140 Top focus fire. 08:32:32.140 --> 08:32:33.540 Is there, is it enough damage? 08:32:33.540 --> 08:32:34.540 Oh, why not? 08:32:34.540 --> 08:32:38.860 It's got the one charge ready also, the loads are still necessary and Makoto is here, strung 08:32:38.860 --> 08:32:39.860 on top of Crip. 08:32:39.860 --> 08:32:40.860 Huge damage. 08:32:40.860 --> 08:32:42.860 Boundless comes back in, another hit. 08:32:42.860 --> 08:32:45.380 It's one more, it's not going to get it actually, Crip. 08:32:45.380 --> 08:32:47.900 into the trees with the salve, it'll be fine. 08:32:49.900 --> 08:32:53.020 Took a lead though. Nightfall, getting away with absolutely everything. 08:32:53.020 --> 08:32:55.180 No pressure onto the laundry, whatever. 08:32:55.180 --> 08:32:56.780 Might still find a nightmare opportunity. 08:32:56.780 --> 08:32:57.980 Can he actually get the angle? 08:32:58.700 --> 08:33:01.020 He's just trying to hide behind the trees. 08:33:01.020 --> 08:33:02.020 Ooh, fancy. 08:33:02.020 --> 08:33:04.660 You know that he's in there, they've got the Wukongs into the bound. 08:33:04.660 --> 08:33:07.380 This leader is gonna get dragged back into the Wukongs with the nightmare, 08:33:07.380 --> 08:33:09.700 but he is taken off, he's gonna be able to back away. 08:33:10.340 --> 08:33:14.060 The turn now, WS is super low off the back of that effort 08:33:14.060 --> 08:33:18.620 trying to push in and join the rest of the team, and Mira, he's also going to get punished, so 08:33:18.620 --> 08:33:23.180 again, Valken's showing that some of this aggression from Aurora, they can answer. 08:33:23.900 --> 08:33:27.900 Bit too over-aggressive, limited ways to stop him as soon as he gets the win run off, 08:33:27.900 --> 08:33:32.220 it looks very dangerous for them to go for this type of dive play when they have no magic damage 08:33:32.220 --> 08:33:36.140 either. Kaori, well look for Amar, Amar has hit six. 08:33:38.940 --> 08:33:41.260 Kaori has to be a little careful how he walks near that timber. 08:33:41.260 --> 08:33:47.740 So recovery for both offlaners as there was some downtime is the Amar was able to hit some of these ancients 08:33:47.980 --> 08:33:50.780 WS started to get that recovery at nightfall 08:33:51.220 --> 08:33:55.700 Accelerating things here. Yes. I mean, this is the thing even though some of these aggressive plays from Aurora 08:33:55.700 --> 08:34:00.780 I'm getting them the easy kills and they're losing some heroes themselves the amount of space that they're 08:34:01.460 --> 08:34:04.980 Getting for nightfall with all the sort of attention they're drawing elsewhere 08:34:04.980 --> 08:34:10.020 It's pretty massive like this lone druid is gonna hit a very fast mouse from timing 08:34:10.020 --> 08:34:13.540 And it's not gonna be easy to keep up with the farm of this lone druid 08:34:16.700 --> 08:34:20.900 No grip just yet's Mira still a bit under level tier something for the Phoenix 08:34:20.900 --> 08:34:23.620 She carries that this is just fine, but Mira not six yet 08:34:23.620 --> 08:34:26.900 Definitely want to have that before they can threaten Malvren on this pango 08:34:27.500 --> 08:34:31.860 Marina's just going farming build by the way, so not wanting the rolling thunder just yet for four build on him 08:34:34.980 --> 08:34:37.920 Mid tower in jeopardy here aurora positioned 08:34:38.560 --> 08:34:42.420 Looking to enable Mikoto as much as possible as we're saying just keep playing around this monkey king 08:34:44.140 --> 08:34:49.100 And of course going to death so build I mean they're gonna have a lot of physical damage to be fair when it all comes together 08:34:50.220 --> 08:34:53.540 That's very little magical. It's all kori for that magic 08:34:58.300 --> 08:35:01.460 Crit can't contribute much on anything as we're seeing it's tiny 08:35:01.460 --> 08:35:09.500 It's having some pretty big difficulties as we expected to as this four position. 08:35:09.500 --> 08:35:13.140 They're even taking it the area here of the Timbersaw, the recovery outlet, so very good 08:35:13.140 --> 08:35:14.140 aggressive plays. 08:35:14.140 --> 08:35:16.020 I like how Aurora is sweeping the map here. 08:35:16.020 --> 08:35:20.500 They're continuing to unpop that gold lead. 08:35:20.500 --> 08:35:24.580 Falcons, whilst they try and hit the creeps, they're just not going to be able to close 08:35:24.580 --> 08:35:25.580 that gap. 08:35:25.580 --> 08:35:29.180 It's going to have to come down to some sort of move from the... 08:35:29.180 --> 08:35:34.140 That move's gonna be hard to pull off with the fact that the Maureen and a Mask 08:35:34.140 --> 08:35:35.880 don't need time to catch back up. 08:35:35.880 --> 08:35:38.240 Yeah, Maureen in particular is still not having that defusal. 08:35:38.240 --> 08:35:41.940 He'll have to go for the boots because he's playing versus the monkey king. 08:35:41.940 --> 08:35:45.460 Sometimes you do just see them rush and that defusal make it, but you just cannot do that 08:35:45.460 --> 08:35:46.660 versus monkey king. 08:35:46.660 --> 08:35:49.940 We'll have the point in rolling thunder now. 08:35:49.940 --> 08:35:52.180 Snaking has also hit six, so they do have chain frost. 08:35:52.180 --> 08:35:54.980 They know that Mira is trying to soak level six down here. 08:35:54.980 --> 08:35:55.980 Might look to punish it. 08:35:55.980 --> 08:35:58.980 Yeah, it's got Nightful pretty close to him though. 08:35:58.980 --> 08:36:01.980 And in fact, they got me the ones to set up first. 08:36:01.980 --> 08:36:03.980 Skeeter's making the way down. 08:36:03.980 --> 08:36:07.980 See how careful Aurora is. They do seem to sense that extra numbers are being brought in. 08:36:07.980 --> 08:36:11.980 Skeeter not going to be able to get under the tower. Aurora, playing careful. Good read. 08:36:11.980 --> 08:36:15.980 Looked like they were potentially going to get caught. They're thinking it was quite patient. 08:36:15.980 --> 08:36:17.980 Well, read with the solo play. 08:36:17.980 --> 08:36:25.800 That's big when his pace in this game is as well, able to find a solo onto that Phoenix 08:36:25.800 --> 08:36:29.320 when he has just hit the stakes and a fair bit of experience going the way of Malrin 08:36:29.320 --> 08:36:30.320 there. 08:36:30.320 --> 08:36:34.920 Top looks like they want to try for WS, making his looking to get something with this chain 08:36:34.920 --> 08:36:35.920 for us. 08:36:35.920 --> 08:36:39.960 But Aurora, continue to stir it away, read the movements. 08:36:39.960 --> 08:36:45.400 And now they can smoke themselves and look for play. 08:36:45.400 --> 08:36:49.200 They have fiends grip, they have egg, deso soon coming out from Mikoto. 08:36:50.000 --> 08:36:52.700 They keep wanting to fight and get a tower every single time. 08:36:52.800 --> 08:36:56.300 So if they can't find Skeeter here, they should be able to turn it into that tower pretty quickly. 08:36:59.400 --> 08:37:01.900 Found this. Into the grip, straight away! 08:37:02.300 --> 08:37:03.200 They're in on top of it! 08:37:03.200 --> 08:37:03.700 Oh my goodness! 08:37:03.700 --> 08:37:05.200 Look over the Wukong's command! 08:37:05.200 --> 08:37:09.200 Skeeter can not escape this, as both him and Snakein will fall! 08:37:09.300 --> 08:37:11.000 The kitchen sink thrown at him. 08:37:11.000 --> 08:37:14.400 Nightforks turning up as well to add to the pressure and take this tier one tower. 08:37:14.400 --> 08:37:16.280 I love that he does this too, right? He's the bear. 08:37:16.280 --> 08:37:20.280 He can kill these towers super fast if he does turn up, and it doesn't take him much commitment whatsoever. 08:37:20.280 --> 08:37:23.520 If he wants to go straight back through the portal, back to his farming area, 08:37:23.520 --> 08:37:26.640 right after they go through this crush, he'll play 5k lead, beautiful. 08:37:28.140 --> 08:37:33.200 Very quick moves, and just slamming down the ultimates to ensure that Falcons do not... 08:37:34.320 --> 08:37:37.480 have any chance of bringing anyone down in return. 08:37:37.480 --> 08:37:42.720 That makes sure that the chain frost does not bounce, since he does turn into that pyramid on the Phoenix. 08:37:42.720 --> 08:37:48.720 So, snaking cooldown will be there for the chain frost as well for 60 seconds. 08:37:48.720 --> 08:37:53.400 Now, Maru will actually sneak in and steal the bounty runes away, so a decent amount 08:37:53.400 --> 08:37:55.720 of gold they do get going their way from that. 08:37:55.720 --> 08:38:00.120 And for Falcons, the name of the game really is going to be slow down and farm. 08:38:00.120 --> 08:38:04.040 They can fight around the pango roll, but very specifically around it and around the 08:38:04.040 --> 08:38:06.760 chain frost, but they do have to be careful because there's always going to be the speed 08:38:06.760 --> 08:38:11.000 script that I imagine Mira in most situations will save for that pango. 08:38:11.000 --> 08:38:13.000 trying desperately to get some more levels. 08:38:13.000 --> 08:38:14.000 Oh, Mira. 08:38:14.000 --> 08:38:17.000 He's gonna make sure that Crit doesn't have a chance then. 08:38:17.000 --> 08:38:19.000 That's just bullying. 08:38:19.000 --> 08:38:22.000 Shadowgimin and Bane, the true bullies of the Wisdoms. 08:38:24.000 --> 08:38:28.000 I'm gonna kind of get himself some of the Deso charges started. 08:38:28.000 --> 08:38:29.000 He's playing? 08:38:29.000 --> 08:38:31.000 I'm pretty close to him, Farms. 08:38:31.000 --> 08:38:32.000 Kida, he steps up pretty far. 08:38:32.000 --> 08:38:36.000 I'll get the shackle off to hold back the bad, but he's far off of him. 08:38:37.000 --> 08:38:38.000 He is super far forward. 08:38:38.000 --> 08:38:40.000 I had a rough bit of the map to die in. 08:38:40.000 --> 08:38:46.800 Looks like him and Maureen were trying to go for a kill, put some pressure onto the tier one, but it was just the two of them and there was nobody there to save Skeetza. 08:38:46.800 --> 08:39:02.000 Aurora is playing incredibly fast so far here, the Mjolnir's already finished up for the bear, looking to get aggressive and continue just stealing these stacks away, so besides taking all three of those tier ones that we were mentioning, they're not letting Amar play that timbersaw area that we've seen all of these timbers completely recover in it. 08:39:03.000 --> 08:39:08.000 That is just having a really tough job of finding the farm this game. 08:39:08.000 --> 08:39:11.520 And Mira almost able to find crit as well here, crit. 08:39:11.520 --> 08:39:14.480 He gets the stun, but might just get fiendscript and kill here. 08:39:14.480 --> 08:39:15.920 If they even feel like they need it. 08:39:15.920 --> 08:39:16.960 I think they might not even need it. 08:39:16.960 --> 08:39:18.000 Nope, they're saving it. 08:39:18.000 --> 08:39:20.000 In comes Mikado! 08:39:20.000 --> 08:39:22.800 And there will be no help for Crip! 08:39:22.800 --> 08:39:24.000 Deso stack. 08:39:24.000 --> 08:39:24.800 Bam! 08:39:26.000 --> 08:39:27.600 Aurora, there's no ball there. 08:39:27.600 --> 08:39:33.600 Looking pretty good and gotta be honest, this first pick loan druid so far that they let through Falcons. 08:39:33.600 --> 08:39:37.600 It doesn't seem like they really have much of a plan to stop it. 08:39:37.600 --> 08:39:43.360 He's kind of getting out control. He really is they did get their tiny the tiny timber saw that we've seen have these incredible games 08:39:43.360 --> 08:39:45.880 But it's a support tiny and the timber saw is shut down 08:39:45.880 --> 08:39:51.840 So it's not the case of what we've seen from these heroes. I'm not for it. He's hitting all the timings, but there's no cure 08:39:52.280 --> 08:39:54.280 Then you can hopeful 08:39:54.280 --> 08:39:57.560 Absolutely monstrous Falcons gonna try to get something going their way here. Okay, Hori 08:39:57.560 --> 08:40:03.480 He's got something over at the ready grip and they kill it. They're gonna try the hits in the big comes out 08:40:03.480 --> 08:40:07.560 Oh my killer with the last hit, but it took them quite some time 08:40:07.600 --> 08:40:09.600 So they lose snaking 08:40:10.120 --> 08:40:16.860 Falcons can they get at least a second support kill they can but now can they get out Maori surrounded by nightfall in the WS 08:40:17.080 --> 08:40:20.520 As he'll get taken out the cutters able to chase out Ammar in the trees 08:40:21.160 --> 08:40:23.320 It's a move from Falcons 08:40:23.320 --> 08:40:25.080 It gets them a couple of kills 08:40:25.080 --> 08:40:28.680 But it's only the supports and they end up losing four heroes themselves 08:40:28.680 --> 08:40:32.760 And it's just more glory and gold for nightfall on the lone druid 08:40:32.760 --> 08:40:41.760 Kirt is having literally no game on this tiny. They moved into the floor, he cannot make these moves and that was pretty close to the egg going off. 08:40:41.760 --> 08:40:47.760 That would have to probably catch that one in the replay. Yeah, that nearly went even worse for Falcons. 08:40:47.760 --> 08:40:51.760 That's Teter. Does have win run, trying to go for a trade on the left. 08:40:51.760 --> 08:40:54.760 Ooh, good shackle comes in at least. It's not the same right, but it's a go. 08:40:54.760 --> 08:40:57.760 He's burning. He's burnt. 08:40:57.760 --> 08:41:03.760 Every hit is moving Aurora snowballing like crazy, Kaori, who's beating... 08:41:03.760 --> 08:41:06.760 This supernova, I mean, it nearly was successful! 08:41:06.760 --> 08:41:08.760 I legit thought that it exploded! 08:41:08.760 --> 08:41:11.760 Who did get the last hit in? I think it's Amar. 08:41:11.760 --> 08:41:12.760 Right? 08:41:14.760 --> 08:41:15.760 Yeah. 08:41:16.760 --> 08:41:17.760 Oh, I tell you why. 08:41:17.760 --> 08:41:19.760 Dude, that was close as well, because Amar also... 08:41:19.760 --> 08:41:21.760 He started walking away from it, and then he was like, 08:41:21.760 --> 08:41:24.760 Oh, actually, I gotta get the last hit in for the team, so we actually killed Zag. 08:41:24.760 --> 08:41:25.760 Yeah, she killed the Zag, so... 08:41:25.760 --> 08:41:29.120 He was about to get stunned from Slaughter too, actually, that was a literal split second, 08:41:29.120 --> 08:41:32.440 so they get the kill, but look how much they lose out of the map so quickly in sequence. 08:41:32.940 --> 08:41:33.740 Hey, Aurora. 08:41:34.440 --> 08:41:37.520 Today seems to be the day, at least for us, of fast Dota for these games. 08:41:37.520 --> 08:41:40.240 We get into fast games after what has been... 08:41:40.900 --> 08:41:43.980 You know, one of the tournaments has had back-to-back, kind of, 60-minute showdowns. 08:41:44.480 --> 08:41:48.560 This one is indeed looking like another fast one so far, 17 minutes in. 08:41:48.920 --> 08:41:51.360 Aurora 8K off, they're gonna get the Rose Shot. 08:41:51.620 --> 08:41:52.760 Every timing is being hit. 08:41:52.760 --> 08:41:54.680 BKB being queued up from Makoto next. 08:41:54.760 --> 08:41:58.920 They've got everything already here to now potentially go for the two or two pushes like we were seeing from earlier 08:42:00.840 --> 08:42:04.360 Limiting the map constricting Falcons not letting them hit the creeps and now win run 08:42:05.000 --> 08:42:07.560 Overall if you're a win ranger, you have to versus this physical damage 08:42:07.560 --> 08:42:12.920 But the physical damage comes out so fast that you might just die before you even get the win run a blink crush with the shard 08:42:13.080 --> 08:42:16.040 Plus a dastel monkey can hit you might just get 100 to 0 from that 08:42:20.280 --> 08:42:24.120 Wow mirrors on the hot and he's gonna have to set up 08:42:24.760 --> 08:42:32.560 So Mark, again, will be taking off the map and continue to just not get the chance to 08:42:32.560 --> 08:42:36.920 get into the game, get his farm and become sort of the timber source that we've been 08:42:36.920 --> 08:42:37.920 seeing that are unkillable. 08:42:37.920 --> 08:42:41.800 As we're seeing this game, he is absolutely killable right now. 08:42:41.800 --> 08:42:42.800 Sorry. 08:42:42.800 --> 08:42:48.760 We get Shackle off, but that's a lot of back-ups, he can not stick around to try for the kill. 08:42:48.760 --> 08:42:51.960 He has to start running, but the windrun has already been used. 08:42:51.960 --> 08:42:52.960 Dead. 08:42:52.960 --> 08:42:53.960 Again. 08:42:53.960 --> 08:42:55.960 On towards Maureen! 08:42:57.180 --> 08:42:58.880 They are... nice to broke. 08:42:58.880 --> 08:43:00.880 Crushing them everywhere. 08:43:02.720 --> 08:43:04.080 Oh, another catch! 08:43:04.080 --> 08:43:05.840 They even get snaking in the trees! 08:43:05.840 --> 08:43:07.680 I mean Koto, he's playing it to perfection. 08:43:07.680 --> 08:43:12.000 Yeah, this is the exact sort of snowballing effect you want to see for your mid-monkey kings. 08:43:13.000 --> 08:43:17.080 Yeah, I was mentioning your un-papered damage mitigation of all these things. 08:43:17.080 --> 08:43:19.080 It's just not happening. It's not working. 08:43:19.080 --> 08:43:23.560 They just go straight through it, whether it's just sort of controlling the windrunner long enough around the windrun. 08:43:23.560 --> 08:43:27.720 Or at this point because they're so far ahead of the timber and such that yeah 08:43:28.360 --> 08:43:34.200 It's just not there. It's just a defense and now night for the timing has been hit. He's got the agonist 08:43:34.200 --> 08:43:37.200 Yeah, so pre 20 minutes. I gotta be honest 08:43:37.200 --> 08:43:41.600 I don't think many loan truers lose the game when they get these sort of timings. Nope pressure everywhere 08:43:41.600 --> 08:43:43.600 And can they hunt the bear is the question? 08:43:44.920 --> 08:43:49.640 Not really with their heroes too effectively. I'm gonna actually even getting the angle there for the jingo 08:43:49.640 --> 08:43:55.040 Because if they ganked this bear with even, I mean with everybody now at this point, 08:43:55.040 --> 08:43:56.040 it might be two farms. 08:43:56.040 --> 08:44:03.560 And there's probably going to be heroes that connect with it. 08:44:03.560 --> 08:44:07.480 Bottom tower, probably dead, can look to swing towards mid, and for Falcons do they have 08:44:07.480 --> 08:44:12.120 to blink in on the tiny, not even just yet, to go for any toss back plays. 08:44:12.120 --> 08:44:14.120 It's just very vulnerable. 08:44:21.120 --> 08:44:22.120 Pretty refreshing to see, though. 08:44:22.120 --> 08:44:25.120 The speed that we're having these teams play, the pressure they're able to apply, 08:44:25.120 --> 08:44:28.120 it's not just creep hitting that we have seen so many of these days. 08:44:28.120 --> 08:44:29.120 WS? 08:44:32.120 --> 08:44:33.120 Found him again! 08:44:35.120 --> 08:44:36.120 Easily gonna break him down. 08:44:38.120 --> 08:44:40.120 Even having the crippling crossbond, Kaori. 08:44:40.120 --> 08:44:47.120 I'm slowing him down, less healing for that timber, the bear, all of the meds on the hunt, the supports are just going to get feasted on. 08:44:47.120 --> 08:44:49.120 I cut her head to help out. 08:44:50.120 --> 08:44:52.120 Um, um, um, Desso stack, another. 08:44:53.120 --> 08:44:56.120 I mean, what is this all down to? 08:44:56.120 --> 08:45:01.120 You know, because is it the strategy that's falling flat on his face or is it just misplay? 08:45:01.120 --> 08:45:08.120 Because when you turn up to this game right and you have one side, first pick, carry, loan druid, and he's doing this well, 08:45:08.120 --> 08:45:13.480 And then the other side Falcons last pick they carry the wind ranger is not doing so great 08:45:13.680 --> 08:45:16.840 Well, is this just a complete sort of misread with the approach? 08:45:16.840 --> 08:45:21.520 What do you think this is it could be both right and I think it's just this monkey king just doing exactly what he needed 08:45:21.520 --> 08:45:25.800 To versus the pangos we said sometimes this could be a bit of a volatile one where you do end up dying 08:45:25.800 --> 08:45:28.360 It's all off super. It's just not the case. He died the ones 08:45:28.360 --> 08:45:31.920 But it wasn't really that bad of a death in particular for him because they got so much out of it 08:45:31.920 --> 08:45:33.920 But the loan drew it in particular 08:45:33.920 --> 08:45:36.620 He just got so much out of that bottom lane. 08:45:36.620 --> 08:45:37.620 Yeah, I don't know. 08:45:37.620 --> 08:45:41.340 This is probably more than three fun, like just the amount of gold the knife will found 08:45:41.340 --> 08:45:42.340 in the laning phase. 08:45:42.340 --> 08:45:44.340 He's just staying in a map. 08:45:44.340 --> 08:45:48.020 And he definitely doesn't help that they have this non-traditional four position on 08:45:48.020 --> 08:45:53.620 Crip, like having this tiny who's constantly done next to nothing, but it should be both 08:45:53.620 --> 08:45:57.380 of these mismatches as Rory and Rory. 08:45:57.380 --> 08:45:58.380 They came to play today. 08:45:58.380 --> 08:45:59.380 Yeah, they're gonna get a number one hit. 08:45:59.380 --> 08:46:02.260 They don't even need to use the Crip at this point to kill these calls. 08:46:02.260 --> 08:46:03.260 They can hold off on that. 08:46:03.260 --> 08:46:06.960 Always save the grip for the third up angle roll. They don't even need to waste it on anybody else 08:46:06.960 --> 08:46:09.340 He already has blink dagger done these timings are ridiculous 08:46:10.940 --> 08:46:12.940 Kari level 13 08:46:13.500 --> 08:46:17.480 There's no space for Falcons to do what they like to do and they split off farm cut creep waves 08:46:17.480 --> 08:46:22.100 Even if they do do that there's a bear hunting them. I've just had a monkey jumping on the trees 08:46:22.820 --> 08:46:25.620 The map is terrifying right now for Falcons. I 08:46:26.860 --> 08:46:28.960 Don't actually have no clue how you recover this game 08:46:28.960 --> 08:46:32.960 How do you go into game 2? Just ban the lone druid? 08:46:32.960 --> 08:46:38.960 Because again it was a first pick lone druid and they had no answer for it 08:46:38.960 --> 08:46:41.960 evidently in execution this game. 08:46:41.960 --> 08:46:46.960 You know, however much they may have theory crafted, what they did want to do against it in the picks. 08:46:46.960 --> 08:46:47.960 It's not working. 08:46:47.960 --> 08:46:50.960 I think step one, yeah, probably ban the lone druid because like the bottom lane in particular was just told 08:46:50.960 --> 08:46:56.960 it did nothing, right, and it shuts down a mar and it allows them to push buildings which allows them to snowball as well too. 08:46:56.960 --> 08:46:59.260 Perhaps, give me something they do look at here. 08:47:01.260 --> 08:47:03.660 I think I've got to definitely shone off his light laundry. 08:47:04.460 --> 08:47:06.160 Full comfort, right now, fail. 08:47:06.160 --> 08:47:08.160 Just deleted. Instantly deleted the win-runner. 08:47:08.160 --> 08:47:10.660 The creeps there are from Maori, it will be able to squash Buckle, 08:47:10.660 --> 08:47:14.960 but Makoto's in on top of the BKBL, get the rolling thunder off Maori, so who get away? 08:47:15.460 --> 08:47:16.660 They might call it here. 08:47:18.460 --> 08:47:21.060 I mean, inside the base there, down now to the bear and... 08:47:21.660 --> 08:47:26.260 Wow! And the quickest game now that we have today, I think, right? We had a 25-minute one earlier. 08:47:26.260 --> 08:47:27.540 This is crazy! What a day! 08:47:27.540 --> 08:47:29.300 We had a 23 minute one! 08:47:29.300 --> 08:47:30.340 Oh my goodness. 08:47:30.340 --> 08:47:33.300 We get shifted to the ninth shift, and the ninth shift gets the quickies! 08:47:33.300 --> 08:47:36.340 I mean, the first series of the day, right, to go back to... 08:47:36.340 --> 08:47:38.740 That add-what? Was it... It was two very long game try. 08:47:38.740 --> 08:47:42.420 One 19 minute game, and then the last series, 08:47:42.420 --> 08:47:45.300 we just had three stomps back to back, in between, 08:47:45.300 --> 08:47:47.220 you know, going back and forth between the paraphernalia and the spirit. 08:47:47.220 --> 08:47:49.140 Now, coming into this last series of the day, 08:47:50.180 --> 08:47:52.820 the stomps continue, and then even more stompy. 08:47:52.820 --> 08:47:56.260 23 minutes, they're the Falcons, they don't really just know what happened. 08:47:56.260 --> 08:48:01.220 I think they ran over completely, Makoto, killing everybody, Lone Drid, absolutely free farming, 08:48:01.220 --> 08:48:05.060 Slardar not really getting shut down in the lane that he was put against versus this double range 08:48:05.060 --> 08:48:11.140 as well. This was a great showing from Arora. It really was just on all fronts, every single lane. 08:48:11.860 --> 08:48:16.420 They had, there was sort of a couple of moves that they went a little too greedy, but the thing is 08:48:17.380 --> 08:48:21.620 they were making space. You know the dive in the mid to dive top, Nightfall is like good job 08:48:21.620 --> 08:48:27.340 I don't even care that you're dying over there. I'm getting insanely farmed on this lone druid. 08:48:27.340 --> 08:48:33.840 I think for Falcons it's probably been lone, but also you can go back to normal basics of Dota where you don't have a four-position timey. 08:48:33.940 --> 08:48:35.800 Yes, the other rest of the heroes look good, 08:48:35.800 --> 08:48:40.900 but I think a lot of things do fall apart when you don't really have this other hero to make the moves around because a lot of times 08:48:40.900 --> 08:48:44.440 it is these four positions that help dictate the pace of the game to play rather big. 08:48:44.440 --> 08:48:49.180 And obviously there's everything kind of fell apart, but again, yes, 08:48:49.180 --> 08:48:53.180 We're not getting won over by these win ranges, are we, Fogged? At least in the games we're saying. 08:48:53.180 --> 08:48:59.180 But as I say, it was kind of everything that just didn't work out really there for Falcons. 08:48:59.180 --> 08:49:01.180 Game 1! It's an Aurora Stomp! 08:49:02.180 --> 08:49:10.180 A very one-sided ordeal, and I think, Kezu, we can safely say that the lone druid project failed. 08:49:10.180 --> 08:49:15.180 Oh, absolutely. They kind of cooked them. I feel like this whole game was kind of free for them. 08:49:15.180 --> 08:49:18.860 kind of free for them. They were going wherever they wanted. They killed wherever they wanted to kill. 08:49:19.260 --> 08:49:25.180 I think they mentioned in the cast too, like today, a lot of the post-4s, there's like a big difference from one team to the other. 08:49:25.380 --> 08:49:31.860 Like Mira and this game on the Bane, when you compare them to Crit, it's like a pro level player compared to like top level. 08:49:31.860 --> 08:49:33.980 You know, some guy who's playing this tiny, it... 08:49:34.780 --> 08:49:35.780 This is just so different. 08:49:36.340 --> 08:49:40.180 Yeah, I felt like they were still on point with their rotations. Mira and Kari, like... 08:49:40.180 --> 08:49:44.320 There was even this play that Falcons did bottom early on, where they teak you to 08:49:44.320 --> 08:49:48.280 Snake King's lips after talking back alone Druid, hoping that they would kill 08:49:48.280 --> 08:49:52.840 there, but it just didn't work out. And there were plays attempted to be made by 08:49:52.840 --> 08:49:56.600 Falcons, but when they don't hit early on, and your Phoenix or Bane are just 08:49:56.600 --> 08:50:02.240 everywhere, playing around your Monkey King and enabling him so beautifully, it's tough Jenkins. 08:50:02.240 --> 08:50:06.640 Yeah, that was the big factor for me. I mean, Mary, you mentioned it during the draft 08:50:06.640 --> 08:50:12.000 when Monkey King was picked. I feel like more and more I'm realizing when I watch these games that like 08:50:12.800 --> 08:50:18.720 Monkey King mid looks good when it can rampage the side lanes even in some of these games where Monkey 08:50:18.720 --> 08:50:24.320 goes mid and doesn't like shit on the guy mid he just does fine but he goes to the side lanes and then 08:50:24.320 --> 08:50:30.000 like in the situation where it's a 3v3 the other mid shows up something like that then that's when 08:50:30.000 --> 08:50:34.640 he's winning the matchup you know it's more about like breaking the lanes rather than the lanes themselves 08:50:34.640 --> 08:50:39.020 because Makoto, like, Nightfall was huge this game, don't get me wrong, this guy had insane 08:50:39.020 --> 08:50:43.260 network, but Makoto was everywhere, like he was doing everything with these two supports. 08:50:43.260 --> 08:50:47.220 It's like even here they're already like behind the tower, like minute sticks, like making 08:50:47.220 --> 08:50:51.100 some plays and over, I like that Amar was actually around here, I think this was a pretty 08:50:51.100 --> 08:50:55.180 cool play, from, it's very unorthodox that you often have shows up here this early on. 08:50:55.180 --> 08:50:59.700 Timber especially, because that's a weird hero to just randomly be made. 08:50:59.700 --> 08:51:05.460 Yeah, I do have to mention though that this was a first pick Lundrid and what ended up 08:51:05.460 --> 08:51:09.940 happening on the draft is they wanted to address the other quarters on Aurora and they just 08:51:09.940 --> 08:51:14.180 kind of weakened their draft against Lundrid. 08:51:14.180 --> 08:51:17.900 That's what I was worried about when this tiny got flexed position for it because it 08:51:17.900 --> 08:51:21.220 doesn't really do much to shut down a Lundrid online, it doesn't really have the damage 08:51:21.220 --> 08:51:25.020 to constantly poke the bear, which is what you wanted before, you want a four that's 08:51:25.020 --> 08:51:29.100 always throwing damage at it, making it hard for the bear to play Dota. 08:51:29.100 --> 08:51:34.560 So the question is, was getting a counter to the core Monkey King better than letting 08:51:34.560 --> 08:51:35.840 the Lounder would play for free? 08:51:35.840 --> 08:51:36.840 The answer is no. 08:51:36.840 --> 08:51:41.120 Yeah, like this tiny on four, at least I think we're not seeing it again Falcons even had 08:51:41.120 --> 08:51:46.000 the option on their 16-17 pick to just take two supports instead of showing like the Pango 08:51:46.000 --> 08:51:47.000 and Lich. 08:51:47.000 --> 08:51:50.300 So you could have swapped that up, but at the same time too, I think they did a lot of other 08:51:50.300 --> 08:51:51.300 things really nicely. 08:51:51.300 --> 08:51:53.400 You mentioned that some of the Falcons moves like they didn't hit. 08:51:53.400 --> 08:51:56.400 I think they had very nice wards on Aurora where they like counterplay that also the 08:51:56.400 --> 08:51:57.840 way that they took towers. 08:51:57.840 --> 08:52:01.760 I think they made sure that there's very little counterplay overall to what they were doing. 08:52:01.760 --> 08:52:04.300 Like in the early game, you know you have Nightfall who's like hitting this. 08:52:04.300 --> 08:52:08.260 Even before he was hitting, you can see on the minimap that his team they were like angling to him. 08:52:08.260 --> 08:52:12.060 And because he has the ward behind the lane, he knows that he's kind of safe and free. 08:52:12.060 --> 08:52:16.500 And we saw this in the earlier series too. Once this tower dies, it's super easy for your carry to like 08:52:16.500 --> 08:52:22.380 walk through the triangle into the mid lane and like now suddenly you take over the bottom half of the map where Timber wants to farm. 08:52:22.380 --> 08:52:28.380 Now you go mid, you're doing that before that they had a ward on their gate so the lone can't get rolled on 08:52:28.380 --> 08:52:33.180 So it's about the active plays you make and the plays at the same time that you shut down from your enemies 08:52:33.180 --> 08:52:35.180 I think Aurora played a phenomenal game 08:52:35.740 --> 08:52:40.860 The question is, can they, the way they play, that doesn't sound unique to a lone druid 08:52:40.860 --> 08:52:45.340 Surely they can replace a lone druid with something else and they can do the same thing or is that hard to do? 08:52:45.740 --> 08:52:50.140 You can still do it with other heroes that win their lane and can rotate somewhere else 08:52:50.140 --> 08:52:53.560 But at the same time Lone is maybe a bit harder to do it against if you go to him 08:52:53.560 --> 08:52:59.440 He presses all the time and took a HP and you can't die so you play like it really has to hit hard also on the other side 08:52:59.440 --> 08:53:07.240 This was this is just not like Falcons to get lane gift not this hard. Yeah, I guess the early lane was fine 08:53:07.240 --> 08:53:14.440 But it broke really early like you said with the tossback play and all the supports from both sides going bottom like the lanes broke down 08:53:14.960 --> 08:53:19.380 Super early, but you just don't see Falcons losing in the early game like this, right? So 08:53:19.380 --> 08:53:23.540 I really feel like a lot of that comes from crit like he's their big playmaker 08:53:23.540 --> 08:53:27.140 He's their high skills super consistent for position guy and 08:53:27.940 --> 08:53:32.780 Being on tiny it is rough on this patch. This is not a feels good position for hero 08:53:32.780 --> 08:53:35.900 We're there others in the there were so many position for bands in 08:53:37.140 --> 08:53:39.140 That's the problem 08:53:39.340 --> 08:53:45.180 They're still in I don't have like the list in front of me right like you're mainly looking at a range for that's why I think the easy 08:53:45.180 --> 08:53:46.740 It would be you can pick it earlier 08:53:46.740 --> 08:53:49.080 but at that point, do you remember any that you would have liked? 08:53:50.820 --> 08:53:53.160 Techies was out, Willow was out, Skyrath Mage. 08:53:53.160 --> 08:53:54.260 Oh, that was a little bit like that. 08:53:54.260 --> 08:53:55.360 That was for Aurora though, yeah. 08:53:55.360 --> 08:53:58.800 And there was a Grim, a Grim is still being played. 08:53:59.360 --> 08:54:01.100 That one could have worked, but for me, 08:54:01.540 --> 08:54:03.200 I'm not really thinking about the support picks, 08:54:03.200 --> 08:54:05.640 even though, of course, they played a big part of it. 08:54:05.960 --> 08:54:07.760 The issue for me was the Monkey King 08:54:07.760 --> 08:54:09.800 and how they reacted to it within the draft. 08:54:09.800 --> 08:54:12.100 I think for Falcons, the true heroes, 08:54:12.100 --> 08:54:14.100 they really don't want to play against this series, 08:54:14.100 --> 08:54:17.220 look like the monkey king and the storm spirit from the photo and 08:54:17.940 --> 08:54:22.180 letting this monkey king go through i think is where they're looking at their draft and thinking 08:54:22.180 --> 08:54:29.780 okay let's let's not do that sounds like then an easy solution because this was this was just game 08:54:29.780 --> 08:54:35.300 one where you know this is where you let the loan drew through so maybe that just flips the whole 08:54:35.300 --> 08:54:40.740 draft yeah that's not happening again that that looked too intensely frustrating to deal with yeah 08:54:40.740 --> 08:54:42.740 So then everything changes. 08:54:42.740 --> 08:54:44.240 It's kind of like in the last series, right? 08:54:44.240 --> 08:54:48.240 You have ParryVision who come in in Game 1, they try some stuff out, they get slapped in the face. 08:54:48.240 --> 08:54:51.240 Then they find something, they're like, okay, we should do this, we make this different. 08:54:51.240 --> 08:54:54.240 Then Game 2 and 3, they swap up their bands, they play a different style, 08:54:54.240 --> 08:54:56.740 and they come and swing and they look completely different. 08:54:56.740 --> 08:54:59.240 And IW69 is the greatest coach of all time. 08:54:59.240 --> 08:54:59.740 True. 08:54:59.740 --> 08:55:06.240 So if anybody can, you know, identify the problems in a draft and switch it up between Game 1 and Game 2, 08:55:06.240 --> 08:55:08.240 it's this gentleman and his team can execute. 08:55:08.240 --> 08:55:11.680 So I don't expect this to be a quick and easy series for Aurora, but I do expect them to win. 08:55:14.240 --> 08:55:16.320 Okay, yeah, we made that distinction. 08:55:16.320 --> 08:55:23.680 I have to also address the fact that Falcons played two really long games at the start of the day. 08:55:23.680 --> 08:55:30.840 And we heard, at that point, we heard Quinn talk about it, that it does affect you, and it does have a large impact. 08:55:31.240 --> 08:55:36.800 And we saw it yesterday in Tundra, had a large impact there for them as well for the last series of the day, 08:55:36.800 --> 08:55:38.680 after they won first years of the day? 08:55:39.880 --> 08:55:42.120 Was there signs of fatigue in this one? 08:55:42.120 --> 08:55:43.880 Not really, I mean, the only sign I could see 08:55:43.880 --> 08:55:46.640 is that they were thinking this game will go to 90 minutes 08:55:46.640 --> 08:55:48.960 and that's when they then answer Aurora's draft. 08:55:48.960 --> 08:55:51.560 But surely they didn't expect this game to end at minute 20. 08:55:51.560 --> 08:55:55.160 But you saw it in the last series that it is possible 08:55:55.160 --> 08:55:57.400 if you know what you're doing. 08:55:57.400 --> 08:56:00.560 So they just got bathed by thinking the meta right now is, 08:56:00.560 --> 08:56:02.240 which works will pass today? 08:56:02.240 --> 08:56:03.480 Yeah, what is today? 08:56:03.480 --> 08:56:05.040 What's happening today? 08:56:05.040 --> 08:56:08.520 This is an unusual one, because there are so many Aurora heroes you could look at and be like, 08:56:08.520 --> 08:56:13.680 ah, they lost that one, but because there is a Lunderwood, if you lose the early game tempo 08:56:13.680 --> 08:56:17.820 of your mid laner plus two supports versus their mid laner plus two supports, 08:56:17.820 --> 08:56:23.320 Lunderwood will end the game really early on, whereas maybe another carry can't push the same way that a Lunderwood would. 08:56:23.320 --> 08:56:30.920 So there are so many pieces to identify here, but ultimately the easiest one to solve is just create a stronger three-man ball with the mid laner 08:56:30.920 --> 08:56:33.120 versus the enemy's, especially for a tempo team. 08:56:33.120 --> 08:56:40.120 You talked about it earlier. Skill issue. They gotta play better in game 2 and the game will be better. It's that easy shiver. 08:56:42.120 --> 08:56:48.120 I thought Jax was gonna say something. He's just nodding his head. That's all good. We can all nod our head for a little bit. 08:56:48.120 --> 08:56:52.120 Take a little bit of a breather and get ready for game number 2 after a break. 08:57:03.120 --> 08:57:05.120 I 08:58:03.120 --> 08:58:06.700 But just get me to this moment 08:58:06.700 --> 08:58:09.500 And I know it, and that's how it's true 08:58:10.500 --> 08:58:13.540 Baby, it's a crazy love thing 08:58:13.540 --> 08:58:14.980 It's a love thing 08:58:14.980 --> 08:58:18.000 Talking about it's a crazy love thing 08:58:18.000 --> 08:58:19.480 It's a love thing 08:58:19.480 --> 08:58:22.540 Baby, it's a crazy love thing 08:58:22.540 --> 08:58:23.940 It's a love thing 08:58:23.940 --> 08:58:27.440 Talking about it's a crazy love thing 08:58:57.440 --> 08:58:59.440 It's a crazy world 08:58:59.440 --> 08:59:01.440 The mad road has done myself 08:59:01.440 --> 08:59:03.440 But it's impossible 08:59:03.440 --> 08:59:05.440 Cause I have no moment that you close 08:59:05.440 --> 08:59:07.440 And if I can't look control 08:59:09.440 --> 08:59:11.440 It's a crazy world 08:59:11.440 --> 08:59:13.440 It's a love 08:59:13.440 --> 08:59:15.440 It's a crazy world 08:59:15.440 --> 08:59:17.440 It's a love 08:59:17.440 --> 08:59:19.440 It's a crazy world 08:59:19.440 --> 08:59:21.440 It's a love 08:59:21.440 --> 08:59:23.440 It's a crazy world 08:59:23.440 --> 08:59:25.440 It's a crazy world 09:02:25.440 --> 09:02:27.440 I can't help it 09:02:32.440 --> 09:02:34.440 Take your toes in the water 09:02:34.440 --> 09:02:36.440 We're not all so hot 09:02:44.440 --> 09:02:46.440 I've got a lot to say 09:02:46.440 --> 09:02:48.440 But I'm not sure what to do 09:02:48.440 --> 09:02:50.440 I'm so capable 09:02:50.440 --> 09:02:52.440 I'm the best you've got to do 09:02:52.440 --> 09:03:20.080 Welcome back! We are on a very abnormal day here in the studio, abnormal for many reasons 09:03:20.080 --> 09:03:24.000 first. I'm here, James is here, and the night shift, that's not, that's not hot. 09:03:24.000 --> 09:03:27.280 That's a bit weird. That's like, I don't know how this video turned blue, but it's 09:03:27.280 --> 09:03:30.880 great. It's great to see you. Good color. But I forgot, I forgot you were here because 09:03:30.880 --> 09:03:34.560 it hadn't seen you. Yeah, that's not what the abnormal thing is I want to talk about. 09:03:34.560 --> 09:03:39.120 But it is abnormal. It's abnormal. It's not the most abnormal. We are having some shooter games. 09:03:39.680 --> 09:03:44.560 We are having, there was a 2-0 today. I know the 2-0 still included 19 minute games and all that. 09:03:45.200 --> 09:03:49.360 Then there was a, there was a three games series that lasted shorter than the 2-0. 09:03:49.360 --> 09:03:56.560 And now we just had a very straightforward first game of this best of three and and it's kind of it's kind of abnormal 09:03:56.560 --> 09:04:01.440 It's kind of it's kind of spooky here. I know spooky. I know how to check if we're in the right universe 09:04:01.440 --> 09:04:03.600 Oh, check your phones. See if Harambe is alive 09:04:04.320 --> 09:04:08.240 Check your phone. Okay. Why don't you check my phone wouldn't my head be 09:04:08.960 --> 09:04:12.560 No, because I think we've been implanted into another I'm checking 09:04:13.440 --> 09:04:16.000 No, he's still dead not alive 09:04:16.000 --> 09:04:19.000 Rest in peace to the go, RIP. 09:04:19.000 --> 09:04:24.000 Alright, we got ourselves a game where Falcons is with their backs against the rope because 09:04:24.000 --> 09:04:27.000 they're one game down. Elimination on the line winner of this series. 09:04:27.000 --> 09:04:31.000 We'll make it to the championship Sunday, we'll get to play against Team Spirit tomorrow 09:04:31.000 --> 09:04:34.000 for John's the Grand Finals against Parvijic. 09:04:34.000 --> 09:04:38.000 And we got Aurora on Dyrus side with First Pick and they picked Snapfire. 09:04:38.000 --> 09:04:40.000 Anything unusual so far? 09:04:40.000 --> 09:04:43.000 I think Lone Druid being banned is not unusual. 09:04:43.000 --> 09:04:46.960 Now it's not unusual at all. I think the snapfire being let through 09:04:48.160 --> 09:04:53.640 Says a lot about how they perceive timber and how we were played yesterday because the snap here 09:04:53.640 --> 09:04:56.440 I like it will erase your pango. It'll 09:04:57.120 --> 09:05:00.960 Deny any kind of spirit here or melee here for Malrian on that mid lane 09:05:00.960 --> 09:05:07.640 And it'll pair up incredibly well with heroes that Aurora have just shown that they'd say that they didn't show before like the Bane 09:05:07.640 --> 09:05:10.140 They played it on five and four and it's looked really good 09:05:10.140 --> 09:05:13.580 Like this combo of Snap plus Vayne is really scary. 09:05:13.580 --> 09:05:17.920 Yeah, I mean Snap has looked really strong and I think especially with the games we've now watched where 09:05:17.920 --> 09:05:23.900 games are actually ending like quite early, it will give you like even more like importance on your lane and early leads 09:05:23.900 --> 09:05:29.500 which this hero absolutely gives you and the other thing for me too that you just mentioned Mira, like Falcons actually 09:05:29.860 --> 09:05:33.020 banning out Timber. This is not something this team does very lightly. 09:05:33.020 --> 09:05:34.860 It's one of like Amar's best heroes. 09:05:34.860 --> 09:05:38.580 Like if they feel like you just made them do this after you know beating their own, 09:05:38.580 --> 09:05:43.300 This is a good sign for you as Aurora like even even if in this draft it doesn't matter overall 09:05:43.300 --> 09:05:47.580 It shows a little bit of you know that Falcons are like reading a lot and respecting your heroes 09:05:47.580 --> 09:05:49.860 Which will just make you feel good like in this moment 09:05:50.740 --> 09:05:54.860 Hey, and the Zeus ban they want to mid the snapfire, huh? 09:05:55.460 --> 09:06:00.220 Yeah, I mean it's booked so strong as a mid hero conceptually it works very well versus Maureen 09:06:00.220 --> 09:06:01.660 Yeah, you look at his hero pool 09:06:01.660 --> 09:06:09.960 Yeah, often melee heroes or you know the pango or hussar and snap will do exceptionally well against all of these heroes 09:06:09.960 --> 09:06:13.420 I mean hussar not so sure about how that one goes, but yes 09:06:13.420 --> 09:06:19.060 That has looked nigh unbeatable on that mid lane if I if I was falcons at this point. I'd be theory-crafting 09:06:19.660 --> 09:06:22.540 Like what could be picked for Mal-Reen? It's gonna be 09:06:23.220 --> 09:06:29.100 The snap mid I mean Lena I know is one people have theory crafted any like long-range arrow 09:06:29.100 --> 09:06:35.180 that doesn't get gigabullied by her massive amount of damage in like essentially melee range. 09:06:35.180 --> 09:06:39.100 So the rovak hero too from wellerine used to be one of his best heroes. 09:06:39.100 --> 09:06:43.820 It's one of his guys, but then again it might just be the casual bam like this is the best 09:06:43.820 --> 09:06:48.380 this is the best one we could still throw the snap as a support it's okay but if they give us 09:06:48.380 --> 09:06:52.060 the opportunity then we'll take it as a mid. Yeah that's why I kind of like it for our like you 09:06:52.060 --> 09:06:57.180 just mentioned the flex so if there's like one hero that you feel like if they do this you know 09:06:57.180 --> 09:07:00.940 Maybe there's still one left and then we can put it as support they'll they'll still be pretty happy 09:07:00.940 --> 09:07:03.820 But out of the heroes. I think Lena is fine, but really hard to play 09:07:04.860 --> 09:07:06.860 Huskar should beat this hero 09:07:07.580 --> 09:07:09.580 All right, then hmm 09:07:09.900 --> 09:07:13.140 Snipers I think still around but even so like Lena sniper 09:07:13.140 --> 09:07:18.580 They also they suffer against catch and jump which WS is very comfortable in playing, but it's a Mars 09:07:18.580 --> 09:07:23.280 It's a primal. It's a centaur like all these heroes. There's too many you can't ban all of them if you're Falcons 09:07:27.180 --> 09:07:30.180 into the instant storm jump and just catch this. 09:07:30.180 --> 09:07:31.180 I would like that. 09:07:31.180 --> 09:07:34.180 I could see that one being where they go. 09:07:34.180 --> 09:07:37.180 Yeah, maybe it would struggle in lane, but... 09:07:37.180 --> 09:07:41.180 I don't know, does the storm struggle against anything in lane, really? 09:07:41.180 --> 09:07:42.180 You might lose slightly, but... 09:07:42.180 --> 09:07:45.180 I feel like you can always just go stack the two camps and jungle. 09:07:45.180 --> 09:07:50.180 Yeah, the thing is, how many storms for me feels like so wishy-washy? 09:07:50.180 --> 09:07:52.180 Oh, okay, alright, I see. 09:07:52.180 --> 09:07:53.180 It does, it does. 09:07:53.180 --> 09:07:56.180 I know he's like, I think he's Grandmaster on it now. 09:07:56.180 --> 09:08:01.020 He would master tier for a while. It was this only master tier he would play and it would look rough 09:08:01.380 --> 09:08:05.980 When he played it, but they still pick it. They still trust them. They'll try it every now and then so 09:08:06.680 --> 09:08:12.100 Taking some time to think about this second phase ban compared to previous game 09:08:12.100 --> 09:08:14.700 There's a lot of position force still in the pool 09:08:15.140 --> 09:08:17.420 Would we clean the one that stands out most? Yeah 09:08:18.900 --> 09:08:21.060 There would be nothing wrong with that hero 09:08:21.060 --> 09:08:26.580 It's it's always been good for them snaking has not played super much clockwork 09:08:26.580 --> 09:08:30.900 I think in this tournament obviously he can you think it would be it would be great playing clockwork I 09:08:31.660 --> 09:08:35.340 Think so well unless they find like a better force such as would wink 09:08:35.340 --> 09:08:38.860 So maybe they're more looking at like potential plus five heroes 09:08:40.300 --> 09:08:42.300 Burning our faces void 09:08:43.860 --> 09:08:46.820 I'm trying to read into if that kicking cats will tell me more 09:08:48.140 --> 09:08:49.580 picking lich 09:08:49.580 --> 09:08:51.580 We will be crit clockwork 09:08:53.780 --> 09:08:58.840 And the must there is a 16 17 coming here like the Falcons next double pick yet 09:08:59.180 --> 09:09:01.980 They don't want to run into an 18 void obviously void snap 09:09:01.980 --> 09:09:06.220 We saw it before it was what spirit played in their series right the law amid snap fire 09:09:06.220 --> 09:09:11.860 You get the carry boys later with like a good matchup, but even so like you are banning to prepare some of your next picks 09:09:12.500 --> 09:09:18.060 I'm not yet quite sure what that is exactly for Falcons, but it should give us more info once we see it 09:09:18.060 --> 09:09:22.300 Yeah, because there are heroes that Falkins have to prepare for. 09:09:22.300 --> 09:09:26.000 Like we know Nightfall's Windranger is always a threat, like you mentioned, 09:09:26.000 --> 09:09:27.500 sheaves in the know interview. 09:09:27.500 --> 09:09:31.000 To be worried about that one, his Ursa is also there, but they do have the 09:09:31.000 --> 09:09:34.000 rager solution on Falkins if they go down that path. 09:09:34.000 --> 09:09:39.200 And it's a weird position to be in, you double pick your supports, 09:09:39.200 --> 09:09:43.200 and it just feels easy to address on Aurora right now. 09:09:43.200 --> 09:09:47.800 Like you pick this Phoenix, and if you're happy, you know this map's potentially going mid. 09:09:47.800 --> 09:09:57.800 When I see these two supports for Aurora, I don't know how much WS has played it, but Lycan and overall summons are very good against these heroes, like against the Cogs, you know, against Lich as well. 09:09:58.800 --> 09:10:01.800 It's just really annoying. They'll just go for the same support they had last game. 09:10:01.800 --> 09:10:02.800 Why not? 09:10:02.800 --> 09:10:08.800 They got the snapbang combo, which is really strong. Like, people are getting shredded in that fiend's grip. 09:10:08.800 --> 09:10:10.800 Again, pretty much. 09:10:10.800 --> 09:10:17.880 Yeah, I'm very curious to see these two picks because I agree with you what you said like the bands are 09:10:19.440 --> 09:10:24.720 Telling they're telling us that there's there's something interesting coming here that voice would have countered 09:10:25.040 --> 09:10:28.320 You can't pre-pick a razor in case you're worried about an Earthlust 09:10:28.320 --> 09:10:33.520 You need to have a hero that can play against Earthlust on how and play against when we knew it to 09:10:34.200 --> 09:10:39.280 That's death brothel. How do we feel about that one because so far hasn't really worked out too much for people 09:10:39.280 --> 09:10:42.280 I mean if we're if you're talking about the matchup into like a potential 09:10:43.680 --> 09:10:45.160 Nightfall Ursa 09:10:45.160 --> 09:10:49.760 Death Prophet does well in lane, but in the game it suffers. Wouldn't it be mid? 09:10:49.760 --> 09:10:52.920 I think it would be more likely to be mid. Yeah 09:10:55.480 --> 09:10:58.920 Oh, you are asking to get Ursa with these two picks 09:10:59.360 --> 09:11:00.160 Yeah 09:11:00.160 --> 09:11:06.200 On the hindsight now that you see these two cores would faces void be better than Ursa if it was in the pool 09:11:06.200 --> 09:11:12.160 No, no, if I know that I'm picking these two heroes or says the first one that will come to mind especially for 09:11:12.720 --> 09:11:17.380 The tide so maybe it was more about the snap or also obviously what happens on this is okay 09:11:17.380 --> 09:11:20.560 They picked these two subs, you know, so we actually adapt our next picks 09:11:20.560 --> 09:11:23.780 You're not just going into the face like oh on 16 17. We will pick this 09:11:25.640 --> 09:11:30.880 Yeah, I think the void is just to break the Phoenix void combo like you're gonna pick a tide 09:11:30.880 --> 09:11:33.400 You don't want to have that for no later on 09:11:33.400 --> 09:11:39.380 I don't know like if I'm playing tight in this game if I know it I have to take out the bear 09:11:39.380 --> 09:11:44.780 There's a lot. Hmm. I don't know about that way back over. Well, it's already there. 09:11:47.280 --> 09:11:53.480 Fog is a gamer. He's always locked in. Is there some weird scenario where they can play like 09:11:53.480 --> 09:12:23.440 I don't mind clock tied against anything because I think these heroes are perfectly fine just 09:12:23.440 --> 09:12:29.360 wave cutting. A clock will get boots and wave cutting. A lot of the time that is how Amar 09:12:29.360 --> 09:12:32.720 and Crit play the lanes as capable of laners as they are. 09:12:33.680 --> 09:12:40.640 So no shenanigans. Probably not. At least what's good, like while you're playing against Ursa, 09:12:40.640 --> 09:12:46.640 you have Lich Shield and not any heroes that currently love buying Nullifier. So you can 09:12:46.640 --> 09:12:51.120 like kind of itemize for magic damage because that's mainly what Bane, Phoenix and Snap do. 09:12:51.120 --> 09:12:56.400 because you have like a 15 to 20 minute window before Ursa will first you know start actually 09:12:56.400 --> 09:13:01.920 damaging heroes and even when he does you have the Lich Shield. But you can also lick after the 09:13:02.960 --> 09:13:10.240 Lich Shield. If they pick Largobah. Yeah. That is true. They could do that. They have played it on 09:13:10.240 --> 09:13:17.280 Mr WS. Yeah I think you can also just deal with Ursa by kicking him out of his lane really early. 09:13:17.280 --> 09:13:26.780 I think if that prophet just goes top, gets that tower early on, or so it goes to the jungle and doesn't have the space that he usually does, that's also a fine solution. 09:13:26.780 --> 09:13:39.780 I mean, an active carry would help a lot for that. Something like a weaver would be pretty solid. I mean, it's against Bane, which kind of sucks, but I feel like the other heroes don't deal with the weaver very well. 09:13:40.780 --> 09:13:43.280 It is true. It can be a pretty good weaver game. 09:13:43.280 --> 09:13:47.620 There's a lot of things that also depends because Aurora have to pick first. They will show their offlaner 09:13:47.620 --> 09:13:50.680 So obviously that will then help you determine what carry you want 09:13:50.680 --> 09:13:54.160 But I fully agree that an active carry would be quite quite nice 09:13:54.160 --> 09:13:56.360 I think the other thing is to Dp as a hero 09:13:56.360 --> 09:14:00.120 She falls flat when the hero cannot walk in and like stay alive 09:14:00.120 --> 09:14:02.040 So the lichio is quite nice tight hunter is quite nice 09:14:02.120 --> 09:14:05.960 But if you have a carry that isn't joining you for 20 minutes, obviously that will feel quite bad 09:14:06.040 --> 09:14:08.480 So that's why I also like the active carry suggestion 09:14:09.680 --> 09:14:12.120 So what do you think another option could be? 09:14:13.280 --> 09:14:18.400 I was gonna think Windranger, but they also took that out and 09:14:20.120 --> 09:14:22.120 What else does my bro play? 09:14:22.440 --> 09:14:31.000 Luna is okay. It's always it always feels okay right now in this in this meta, but it has worked sometimes 09:14:31.960 --> 09:14:33.960 Is PA a dead hero? 09:14:34.460 --> 09:14:36.920 No, some teams have played it 09:14:38.020 --> 09:14:40.180 One team has played which team is it? 09:14:40.180 --> 09:14:45.180 I think maybe two teams, it was a pure twice I think it was pure twice 09:14:45.180 --> 09:14:50.180 I think someone else did attempt it and it was a versus a beast master and it failed 09:14:50.180 --> 09:14:52.180 Ah, I might have played it once 09:14:52.180 --> 09:14:53.180 Of course I might have played it 09:14:53.180 --> 09:15:01.180 Oh, I like the axe, I really like the axe because a lot of Skeeter's heroes that currently look good get shit on by axe 09:15:01.180 --> 09:15:05.180 Like Weaver is now, Weaver now feels pretty bad 09:15:05.180 --> 09:15:07.180 Yeah, you should not pick him anymore 09:15:07.180 --> 09:15:08.180 You can't Weaver 09:15:08.180 --> 09:15:10.880 You can't PA or something unusual. 09:15:10.880 --> 09:15:11.880 Yeah. 09:15:11.880 --> 09:15:18.260 This is where I would lean more on the Luna, just because it's more fine against Axe. 09:15:18.260 --> 09:15:24.300 You can pop the Glaives and not kill yourself like you build stats. 09:15:24.300 --> 09:15:25.300 Ooh, lucky. 09:15:25.300 --> 09:15:29.900 Okay, they go for way more of a hard counter in the lane. 09:15:29.900 --> 09:15:36.140 Good versus Phoenix as well, but it can suffer versus Bane and Axe in the late game. 09:15:36.140 --> 09:15:38.140 means to disable him and get on top of him. 09:15:38.140 --> 09:15:43.020 Yeah, so I always it doesn't have a very good matchup into the Ursa like it is 09:15:43.020 --> 09:15:47.780 quite a good Ursa game but in my mind what Falcons are going for is there's a 09:15:47.780 --> 09:15:51.580 lot of heroes on Aurora that if they can't like stand their ground and fight 09:15:51.580 --> 09:15:55.500 they all kind of suck like in a way like they need to be stationary cast your 09:15:55.500 --> 09:15:58.980 spell egg needs to stay alive snapfire is stationary so when you have like this 09:15:58.980 --> 09:16:02.740 DP tie that can walk at you and push you back if you can't stand your ground 09:16:02.740 --> 09:16:08.100 Then you're pretty strong. So I think the next isn't only picked like for what he does against the enemy heroes 09:16:08.100 --> 09:16:10.700 But you can like infest and like help everyone else 09:16:10.700 --> 09:16:13.980 You can jump in also with the clockwork and like make some stuff happen 09:16:13.980 --> 09:16:21.000 So I think there's very few carry players that would actually pick this hero in this scenario, but it fits skater style 09:16:21.260 --> 09:16:26.340 I'm still I'm a bit skeptical of the DP like overall, but I see the idea 09:16:27.020 --> 09:16:27.940 Yeah, I for me 09:16:27.940 --> 09:16:32.380 I think the DP is actually a really cool pick if he pulls off what it is that they want to do with it 09:16:32.380 --> 09:16:39.880 They get the top tower early, they get the mid tower early, and they make it so that Aurora don't actually have space for their axe and ursa to farm. 09:16:39.880 --> 09:16:46.880 Then it can be really hard for Aurora, but if these things don't happen and the DP gets stepped on, it'll be a more difficult game. 09:16:46.880 --> 09:16:59.380 Yeah, there's a world where Falcons just run some over in the early game, taking all the mid-tier ones, like Tide plus Death Prophet is one of the classic, like, you simply cannot fight us combos, like, it is insane. 09:16:59.380 --> 09:17:08.180 However, I love the Axe pick. I feel like there are sometimes that I watch Aurora drafts, and I remember that KP won a TI, you know? 09:17:08.180 --> 09:17:14.480 Like this guy is such a good drafter. The Axe, it denies so many heroes that felt comfortable for Skeeter, and... 09:17:14.480 --> 09:17:18.380 But it didn't deny the lifestealer. Do you feel like lifestealer? How does it lane into the Axe? 09:17:18.380 --> 09:17:26.780 I think lifestealer does good in lane against Axe, but it's like Mira said, like, in an ideal lifestealer game, there is nothing to go through his immunity. 09:17:26.780 --> 09:17:32.780 But Axe obviously can deal with that and we've seen also Axe jumping lifestealers in this tournament and killing them full to zero. 09:17:32.780 --> 09:17:34.780 It's not the hero it used to be. 09:17:34.780 --> 09:17:39.780 This Ursa, the Nightful Ursa might just go ham. I'm a little afraid for Falcon's system around. 09:17:39.780 --> 09:17:47.780 How much pressure is there going to be in the early stages of the game considering in game one that was kind of the telling part already of the game? 09:17:47.780 --> 09:17:48.780 Similar? 09:17:48.780 --> 09:17:51.780 I mean similar. I hope that Falcon's can maybe hold their lanes a bit more. 09:17:51.780 --> 09:17:55.780 You have a double melee offlane against the bear, which is generally not that good. 09:17:55.780 --> 09:18:04.520 We're gonna find out game 2 Ken Aurora 2-0 and eliminate Falcons or build Falcons keep their dreams of championship someday 09:18:04.580 --> 09:18:06.580 Alive we're finding out with Fog the naughty pixel 09:18:15.380 --> 09:18:20.260 Yeah, let's find out come into game 2 and see if we can get ourselves a little bit of a longer game 09:18:20.260 --> 09:18:25.140 Because the last four that we've witnessed here at Dream League have been pretty much 09:18:25.140 --> 09:18:26.140 us. 09:18:26.140 --> 09:18:27.140 Stopped 30 many games. 09:18:27.140 --> 09:18:28.140 Pretty much. 09:18:28.140 --> 09:18:29.140 Yeah. 09:18:29.140 --> 09:18:30.140 Have been decided very quickly here. 09:18:30.140 --> 09:18:32.860 I think Falcons overall this time did fix their lane problems. 09:18:32.860 --> 09:18:35.860 Last game they literally just got stomped in lanes, things snowballed out of control, 09:18:35.860 --> 09:18:37.340 they didn't get to play the game. 09:18:37.340 --> 09:18:40.180 This one looks better on paper again in terms of those lane matchups. 09:18:40.180 --> 09:18:45.380 But I'm with Casual, so I'm worried that this Nightfall Ursa couldn't completely take 09:18:45.380 --> 09:18:46.380 over the game. 09:18:46.380 --> 09:18:50.660 versus the tide playing versus the life stealer could be problematic so for me 09:18:50.660 --> 09:18:54.140 I'm gonna be looking at Falcons at Malrin how much tempo he's gonna be able to set 09:18:54.140 --> 09:18:58.620 because I think a lot of it's gonna rely on that for Falcons and for Aurora if the 09:18:58.620 --> 09:19:01.660 tempo is not set there from Falcons I think this lineup is gonna look pretty 09:19:01.660 --> 09:19:06.660 good in terms of scaling and picking heroes off. Snapfire damage potential I 09:19:06.660 --> 09:19:09.780 haven't seen this matchup in particular the snap versus the death prophet just 09:19:09.780 --> 09:19:13.420 yet so I think the death prophet is a pretty decent answers we've seen a lot 09:19:13.420 --> 09:19:17.500 these ranged heroes pre okay versus but I don't know the snap just gets extra 09:19:17.500 --> 09:19:21.820 denies always because you have this crazy advantage with the 35% damage and 09:19:21.820 --> 09:19:25.420 it's just that kind of one of the heroes in terms of the overall game right is it 09:19:25.420 --> 09:19:28.700 snap it's never step problem yeah just the nature of the two heroes and how 09:19:28.700 --> 09:19:33.060 could they've been looking you know snap it's kind of been a hot topic right now 09:19:33.060 --> 09:19:37.780 was that probably seen a few people try it but it hasn't necessarily looked 09:19:37.780 --> 09:19:42.620 amazing but it's a soup it's like super long range hero right so you'll be able 09:19:42.620 --> 09:19:47.220 to play quite nicely, at least in the lane, versus that Death Prophet, in that 600 range. 09:19:47.220 --> 09:19:51.460 Or first of that, it's not a snapfire in particular, but we'll have to see, because I've also just, 09:19:51.460 --> 09:19:54.660 I've seen these snaps, just win so many of these matchups, even if it is against the 09:19:54.660 --> 09:19:59.980 range hero, and I will also also snap versus Death Prophet, it's a burst, a high burst 09:19:59.980 --> 09:20:04.260 magical damage hero that can play from distance, and there isn't the best save versus it. 09:20:04.260 --> 09:20:06.780 There's a Lich Frost shield that that's not going to prevent it this much. 09:20:06.780 --> 09:20:08.780 I guess in Fests, we can say, right? 09:20:08.780 --> 09:20:11.260 They do at least have that tool to heal up Mal'Reen. 09:20:11.260 --> 09:20:16.180 Yeah, let's see how these lanes do end up going. 09:20:16.180 --> 09:20:18.940 The last game was decided pretty fast. 09:20:18.940 --> 09:20:22.340 It got pretty out of hand pretty early. 09:20:22.340 --> 09:20:27.940 One thing for sure, unless some sort of crazy feeding goes on up top, Nightfall shouldn't 09:20:27.940 --> 09:20:31.620 have as fast of farm as he did last game on the Lone Dread, right? 09:20:31.620 --> 09:20:34.660 Sure, but still should be pretty free farmed. 09:20:34.660 --> 09:20:36.420 He's versus the double melee as a nurse. 09:20:36.420 --> 09:20:40.580 But it shouldn't be, if he gets as far ahead as he did last game on the Lone Dread, this 09:20:40.580 --> 09:20:41.580 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 09:20:41.580 --> 09:20:44.080 And there's gonna be some big problems from Falcons. 09:20:44.080 --> 09:20:45.080 They're a different style of heroes, 09:20:45.080 --> 09:20:47.080 because one kind of just plays to farm for the battle, 09:20:47.080 --> 09:20:48.080 through the other one, 09:20:48.080 --> 09:20:49.080 takes over the entire map, 09:20:49.080 --> 09:20:50.580 takes all your buildings, so, yeah. 09:20:50.580 --> 09:20:52.080 In design, quite different. 09:20:53.080 --> 09:20:54.580 So, will at least be... 09:20:55.080 --> 09:20:58.080 At least should be a bit more manageable for Falcons. 09:20:58.080 --> 09:21:00.080 Should be more manageable. 09:21:01.080 --> 09:21:02.080 Nightfall. 09:21:02.580 --> 09:21:05.080 Keeping the wave here, but it is gonna end up pushing out. 09:21:05.080 --> 09:21:08.080 Amar is actually the one keeping the wave static a little better here, 09:21:08.080 --> 09:21:12.320 who's able to deny, pull the range creeps again, so he still has three creeps and he's denied a 09:21:12.320 --> 09:21:18.160 whole nother wave, so he is getting something out of lane here. Not a lot. As I said, the design 09:21:18.160 --> 09:21:26.000 from Aurora for this lane is to shut down Amar again. Kari, getting his Phoenix again. 09:21:26.000 --> 09:21:29.680 Always looking good on it. I don't think I ever really see the guy have a bad game on it too. 09:21:30.560 --> 09:21:35.120 Yeah. Of course, great. Classic combo with the axe. Yes. I'm going to be able to keep that super 09:21:35.120 --> 09:21:39.360 over very likely pretty safe and even if they commit for it if the snaps and 09:21:39.360 --> 09:21:42.560 debate the damage that these two can deal in some situations can be pretty 09:21:42.560 --> 09:21:48.120 devastating. Mid lane, Mal'Reen doing pretty good if so far here we're seeing 09:21:48.120 --> 09:21:51.360 the range absolutely work and the healing that you actually get to be able to 09:21:51.360 --> 09:21:55.300 trade pretty effectively first is that's that fire so I've seen Mal'Reen play this 09:21:55.300 --> 09:22:00.320 now a lot in pubs is the death profit so I'm looking forward to see if he's able 09:22:00.320 --> 09:22:02.720 to get out of this lane into a good spot and if he can make these early 09:22:02.720 --> 09:22:07.720 What build he goes? I'm always curious about the item builds on this hero. 09:22:07.720 --> 09:22:10.720 He's really bringing it to Makoto. 09:22:10.720 --> 09:22:13.720 Yeah, because at the moment, how would you sort of position this hero? 09:22:13.720 --> 09:22:17.720 Like, is Death Prophet a strong hero, or is he just very situational? 09:22:17.720 --> 09:22:21.720 Very situational. But it is very good versus a lot of these mids. 09:22:21.720 --> 09:22:24.720 If you do stop the lane, which you're designed to do, right? 09:22:24.720 --> 09:22:27.720 Versus his spirits. Even some time ago, when the hero wasn't picked too much, 09:22:27.720 --> 09:22:35.920 much that was trying to get the cookie connection honestly even if the cookie 09:22:35.920 --> 09:22:38.600 stun hits I don't know if he's getting away with that no that was 09:22:38.600 --> 09:22:44.680 incredibly over aggressive he gets punished for it dream that for now rain 09:22:44.680 --> 09:22:50.000 have it a beautiful stuff and the hero that is designed like for them to play 09:22:50.000 --> 09:22:52.520 around completely here on the Falcon strap and it's not leaving he's the one 09:22:52.520 --> 09:22:54.800 that takes the buildings he's the ones that goes around in pressures and 09:22:54.800 --> 09:23:03.200 Versus the Ursa, this matchup can be pretty dangerous versus Ursa in the early game, because you can just get silenced, you can't get a range up, you get ran down, you just die. 09:23:03.200 --> 09:23:05.800 You need time on Ursa to be good versus that death profit. 09:23:09.800 --> 09:23:17.800 Snaking, we see that lich versus the axe, that matchup, you can get rid of Battlehunger pretty easily with sacrifice, but now he's in a dangerous spot. 09:23:17.800 --> 09:23:18.800 Okay. 09:23:18.800 --> 09:23:22.840 It's a nice little use of Rage there for the splitter to keep the two of them safe, get 09:23:22.840 --> 09:23:25.400 that nightmare off Snakey. 09:23:25.400 --> 09:23:28.720 He has a salve double to reset down here. 09:23:28.720 --> 09:23:32.880 So the lifestealer versus that axe matchup, axe kind of just pre-farms down here is the 09:23:32.880 --> 09:23:33.880 one thing. 09:23:33.880 --> 09:23:36.600 Yes, in the later stages of the game, the lifestealer can be good versus axe, but it 09:23:36.600 --> 09:23:38.120 goes a bit both ways, right? 09:23:38.120 --> 09:23:45.600 Axe has the call, says that he can be piercing disable always, and the code truly is struggling. 09:23:45.600 --> 09:23:48.600 Now I'm just going for quite a fair bit of regen. 09:23:48.600 --> 09:23:52.600 Another sub. I think he even brought a third set of tango maybe it wasn't. 09:23:52.600 --> 09:23:56.600 Wasn't sure. Lot being used here. Malv rain really putting the pressure on early boosts. 09:23:56.600 --> 09:23:58.600 This is going to be a very early level 6. 09:23:58.600 --> 09:24:00.600 Oh yeah, he's pretty much in the tie level ahead. 09:24:00.600 --> 09:24:01.600 Yeah. 09:24:01.600 --> 09:24:04.600 So Makoto only just hitting the 5 whereas Malv rain with this next brief. 09:24:04.600 --> 09:24:05.600 He will have the 6. 09:24:05.600 --> 09:24:09.600 So they've got to be prepared for the push that's going to come with that exorcism very early on here. 09:24:09.600 --> 09:24:14.600 To likely to double support rotation, the axe can be left alone. 09:24:14.600 --> 09:24:19.140 Now at this point since he does have a full tank guard already on WSOMI super early 09:24:19.640 --> 09:24:25.460 He's not gonna get pushed out of this part of the map anytime soon unless them sort of major rotation comes in from Maureen 09:24:25.460 --> 09:24:28.360 So we absolutely could see yeah that rotation come to mid 09:24:28.360 --> 09:24:34.160 But we could also see Aurora make the move because Mikoto might hit six also as the death prophet sets up for the push 09:24:34.380 --> 09:24:36.380 So the kisses might just be available 09:24:37.600 --> 09:24:41.440 Great will steal away the bounty runes are no fill up there for Mikoto and he's just being disruptive 09:24:41.440 --> 09:24:47.440 So, making sure that Mikoto, they have information on him and so he doesn't, he isn't able to farm that level 6 person to D.V. 09:24:49.440 --> 09:24:56.440 And all in all, expect sort of a much stronger game from Crit this time round on the clock as opposed to trying out the tiny last game. 09:24:56.440 --> 09:25:02.440 Infinitely so. You're just saying, right? Yeah, tiny is important, definitely enough. I don't think we'll see too often. 09:25:02.440 --> 09:25:04.440 Yeah, that one did not work out. 09:25:04.440 --> 09:25:06.440 Exorcism used. 09:25:07.440 --> 09:25:11.440 So you can put the body blocks onto Merus, or they'll kill off the pain, 09:25:11.440 --> 09:25:14.440 and should be able to get some good damage onto the tower here with this. 09:25:14.440 --> 09:25:18.440 Gets the drag of the creep wave though, so can they actually tank the wave here? 09:25:18.440 --> 09:25:20.440 Not so much, they're gonna use the glyph. 09:25:20.440 --> 09:25:23.440 He has another spirit something for the following creep wave, 09:25:23.440 --> 09:25:26.440 but that's all the damage they'll get on the tower with that axel. 09:25:27.440 --> 09:25:28.440 Okay, hurry. 09:25:28.440 --> 09:25:29.440 Whoa. 09:25:29.440 --> 09:25:31.440 I mean they tried to make a play with the dive and the kisses. 09:25:31.440 --> 09:25:32.440 Can they? 09:25:32.440 --> 09:25:33.440 One more kiss! 09:25:34.440 --> 09:25:38.960 Just falling a little short, I mean what maybe needed two more hits there. 09:25:38.960 --> 09:25:42.640 Did get kinda close to being able to maybe do it, meanwhile back in the river, Kori. 09:25:43.400 --> 09:25:45.720 That was in trouble here with the cogs, but we'll live. 09:25:45.720 --> 09:25:47.800 Very aggressive, I thought they were gonna save him. 09:25:47.800 --> 09:25:51.160 But I guess he had the Arcane rune, so we'll be able to use that one to go through the kill there. 09:25:51.160 --> 09:25:55.160 Kori, dancing around versus Kritt, and another rocket won't be enough to bring him down. 09:25:55.160 --> 09:25:59.080 And it does, you know, well and truly ensure that he's pushed off the tower, right? 09:25:59.080 --> 09:25:59.580 True. 09:25:59.580 --> 09:26:03.840 At the end of the day, first Exorcism, doesn't end up doing too much to the tier 1 med. 09:26:03.840 --> 09:26:09.380 They keep it strong and kids are gonna be up super fast right 45 seconds. They're gonna be up way faster than the minutes 09:26:10.440 --> 09:26:11.940 I thought 09:26:11.940 --> 09:26:17.420 Chaser over what snaking they finish them off the brings out and they make sure that they get both shrine of wisdoms 09:26:17.420 --> 09:26:19.980 I mean we saw this what last they're very good at 09:26:20.660 --> 09:26:23.820 Setting up for these wisdoms and just that little bit better than falcons have been 09:26:24.220 --> 09:26:27.900 And pain overall you are looking actually at the win rate of this hero does look very good 09:26:27.900 --> 09:26:30.820 And we do have to talk about Mira this is one of his TI winning heroes 09:26:30.820 --> 09:26:37.160 This was literally one of his best heroes I've ever seen him play and he is absolutely looking at very comfortable on it and just being annoying 09:26:37.900 --> 09:26:44.640 Denying away that wisdom. I mean losing his wisdom is hard. It absolutely does when you're looking to play pretty much every time in both games 09:26:44.720 --> 09:26:50.340 And when you're looking to play around like an early game oriented death profit kind of thing with your supports them now struggling 09:26:52.460 --> 09:26:56.460 Some limited damage on the side of falcons when it's not the death profit, right? 09:26:56.460 --> 09:26:59.780 When you look at their heroes, Lifesteer is going to take some time to do that damage. 09:26:59.780 --> 09:27:04.340 The support's now at low level, so most of it, like we said, relying on Malrin to have 09:27:04.340 --> 09:27:06.140 that good opening into the game. 09:27:06.140 --> 09:27:07.980 Still is having that good opening. 09:27:07.980 --> 09:27:09.980 Exorcism is going to be up at about 15 seconds. 09:27:09.980 --> 09:27:12.180 See the river shield, Brim? 09:27:12.180 --> 09:27:13.180 Dakota gets this. 09:27:13.180 --> 09:27:14.180 I'm going to grab it. 09:27:14.180 --> 09:27:15.180 Kisses are up. 09:27:15.180 --> 09:27:19.020 I can't quite get any setup on to Malrin though, so won't find the chance to commit with the 09:27:19.020 --> 09:27:20.020 kisses. 09:27:20.020 --> 09:27:24.660 Can't look to hold the tower though with it, so see what Falcons wants to do with this 09:27:24.660 --> 09:27:32.420 next exorcism as he did not get that power rune. WS of course bottom continues to rather 09:27:32.420 --> 09:27:38.260 hard to go and they're going to try here bringing in Maureen using the ghost hit to make a bit of 09:27:38.260 --> 09:27:43.860 an effort for the axe and put the damage of Maureen they'll be able to do it so a nice little rotation 09:27:43.860 --> 09:27:48.420 allows them to take WS out of the lane who's hitting him quite a lot while in the mid they 09:27:48.420 --> 09:27:52.820 do blast through crick but Falcons overall off the back of the kill should be able to put some 09:27:52.820 --> 09:27:56.740 pressure on the tier one bottom and I quite like this because overall pressuring the mid tower 09:27:56.740 --> 09:28:00.820 versus the snapfire kisses right very difficult but bottom he's going to have to make the rotation 09:28:00.820 --> 09:28:05.860 down there if he wants to use those kisses to stop Mal range from pretty heads up move on top of 09:28:05.860 --> 09:28:09.460 getting that kill on the axe they should just be able to finish off the majority of this tower 09:28:09.460 --> 09:28:13.300 here too. Mikoto's pinging it he does want to come down and defend it it looks like 09:28:15.700 --> 09:28:16.820 okay cb tier two 09:28:16.820 --> 09:28:26.500 I'm the cookie set up to get the stun into the call on to him and I'll do it the dunks 09:28:26.500 --> 09:28:29.700 there they take Maureen out and Skeeter's got a run. 09:28:29.700 --> 09:28:35.260 He's going to go for the TP out and he thinks I'll stop it blasting to the top. 09:28:35.260 --> 09:28:36.260 Enough! 09:28:36.260 --> 09:28:37.260 That'll do it. 09:28:37.260 --> 09:28:38.260 Oh wow. 09:28:38.260 --> 09:28:41.220 We're just seeing the power of Snapfire being able to respond a lot easier. 09:28:41.220 --> 09:28:43.900 Death Prophet has to put herself in a very dangerous position. 09:28:43.900 --> 09:28:49.260 kills killing off both of them getting them again off the tier one tower you know it's sure this time a 09:28:49.260 --> 09:28:54.140 lot of damage was done but it's the 5th they'll at least be able to get the deny there but uh yeah 09:28:54.140 --> 09:28:59.180 that's got to hurt deaths like that right setting back the pace of the death profit lineup and you're 09:28:59.180 --> 09:29:02.700 seeing in the gold already up to 3k lead you're only gonna imagine the xp is going to be looking 09:29:02.700 --> 09:29:08.460 pretty good as well because of those early shrana wisdoms yeah both making quite the lead up just 09:29:08.460 --> 09:29:13.260 10 minutes in in favor of aurora again it's a heads up move from falcons but an even more heads up 09:29:13.260 --> 09:29:16.740 moon from Aurora to respond and not lose their tower and they're getting so much 09:29:16.740 --> 09:29:20.060 out of the map here already this early. The Ursus free farming acts as more than 09:29:20.060 --> 09:29:23.260 free farming has 1500 difference over him in that life stealer. 09:29:23.260 --> 09:29:26.180 It's gonna be super early blade melt, which is also a very good first death 09:29:26.180 --> 09:29:28.380 profit. 09:29:28.540 --> 09:29:33.940 It may just have been the one death on Maureen, but it does feel like it's sort of 09:29:33.940 --> 09:29:38.940 here if you die even just a second time within the next few minutes your game 09:29:38.940 --> 09:29:42.980 gets severely hurt. And also we have to talk about on the flipside right? All 09:29:42.980 --> 09:29:47.320 All during this time, Amar, it's not like he's like this top net worth hero now because 09:29:47.320 --> 09:29:48.900 of all these moves that have been happening. 09:29:48.900 --> 09:29:53.260 He is the bottom core at the same time of all of them. 09:29:53.260 --> 09:29:56.620 Does have ravage available if he'd like to for the next upcoming move, but Aurora, this 09:29:56.620 --> 09:29:59.460 early game is absolutely beautiful. 09:29:59.460 --> 09:30:05.060 Mira, they're giving him the lane to hit that six, and so far, two exorcisms used, no towers 09:30:05.060 --> 09:30:07.340 claimed. 09:30:07.340 --> 09:30:12.740 Snap, kisses back up in 10 seconds. 09:30:12.740 --> 09:30:16.260 The frequency of the spell too, it's always up for the pressure play. 09:30:16.260 --> 09:30:20.140 And you don't have to put yourself in a dangerous position as the snapfire, right? 09:30:20.140 --> 09:30:21.740 You can use it from so far away. 09:30:21.740 --> 09:30:22.740 Amar? 09:30:22.740 --> 09:30:23.740 Time for it. 09:30:23.740 --> 09:30:24.740 Cookie as well. 09:30:24.740 --> 09:30:25.740 We'll be off the mark. 09:30:25.740 --> 09:30:26.740 Put the slows into the kisses. 09:30:26.740 --> 09:30:27.740 We'll do it. 09:30:27.740 --> 09:30:28.740 Secure Aurora and other kill. 09:30:28.740 --> 09:30:29.740 Turn the way of night for this time. 09:30:29.740 --> 09:30:30.740 I just compare the heroes, right? 09:30:30.740 --> 09:30:31.740 Snap can just launch the kisses from distance and you're probably going to get a kill. 09:30:31.740 --> 09:30:35.300 the way of night for this time. I have to compare the heroes, right? Snapp can just launch the 09:30:35.300 --> 09:30:39.100 kisses from distance and you're probably gonna get the kill while Axorcism, you have to really 09:30:39.100 --> 09:30:43.460 get in there. You gotta really get in there and you're at risk of dying. Quite a lot. And it's 09:30:43.460 --> 09:30:47.660 never fun getting in there. I mean honestly against all five of these heroes right? You don't want to 09:30:47.660 --> 09:30:53.740 get close and personal with the bear or the axe and then this Snapp fire you get blasted in the 09:30:53.740 --> 09:30:59.500 face. Oh and this Ursa has battle fury already. Life Stealer is super far behind after that death. 09:31:01.740 --> 09:31:03.740 Looking really tough for Falcons already. 09:31:03.740 --> 09:31:06.740 Maureen, let's go back up with it. 09:31:06.740 --> 09:31:08.740 Okay, he's got Exorcism. 09:31:08.740 --> 09:31:10.740 He's got a Maher. 09:31:10.740 --> 09:31:12.740 You want to finish this tower here in the bed? 09:31:12.740 --> 09:31:13.740 Should be able to get... 09:31:13.740 --> 09:31:14.740 Now that there's no kisses, 09:31:14.740 --> 09:31:16.740 now they should be able to get this tower here. 09:31:21.740 --> 09:31:23.740 Aurora not going to hemorrhage the death though. 09:31:23.740 --> 09:31:25.740 Just going to allow that tower to fall. 09:31:25.740 --> 09:31:28.740 Shouldn't sure that Maureen does get the power of it as well too, 09:31:28.740 --> 09:31:32.180 well too, so he's able to find himself an illusion for the next coming play. 09:31:32.180 --> 09:31:36.020 The blademail's done for the axe, there they have two of their main core timings on those 09:31:36.020 --> 09:31:37.020 side laders. 09:31:37.020 --> 09:31:38.700 They just can't so much, we'll go down the map. 09:31:38.700 --> 09:31:39.700 They are. 09:31:39.700 --> 09:31:42.320 12 minutes, didn't have a 5k lead still here, Aurora. 09:31:42.320 --> 09:31:46.300 And Falcons, with the Death Prophet, they have the five men, the mid tower, to bring 09:31:46.300 --> 09:31:52.180 it down just in case of things, so they don't want to risk Malmere's life. 09:31:52.180 --> 09:31:54.460 This axe is terrifying, in particular, right? 09:31:54.460 --> 09:31:55.460 He is. 09:31:55.460 --> 09:31:58.020 In a dangerous spot, they do get to catch on crit. 09:31:58.020 --> 09:32:01.020 WS to move in for the call, and the dunk. 09:32:01.020 --> 09:32:02.020 Another one. 09:32:05.020 --> 09:32:07.020 Much easier for him to set up on any of these kills. 09:32:07.020 --> 09:32:13.020 For Falcons, still not having the level 6 on the lich, or on the clockwork, after losing that wisdom. 09:32:13.020 --> 09:32:18.020 Level 7 on the 2 supports on Aurora already, pretty much, and Kaoru almost has a Vessel done, 09:32:18.020 --> 09:32:24.020 which is another really good answer for Death Prophet, so starting to tick toward more and more of these answers. 09:32:24.020 --> 09:32:26.020 Malvin, getting close to you also, we'll have a big bell? 09:32:26.020 --> 09:32:29.460 Yeah, so at least yeah, we'll have that sort of answer and also 09:32:29.700 --> 09:32:33.040 Silver's are so next exactly. Yeah, if you have the two of them try and go on him 09:32:33.040 --> 09:32:36.260 So that makes sense why he would go for that. I was wondering if it was gonna be this or the 8-toe 09:32:36.260 --> 09:32:38.440 So the ULT is gonna be that choice from here 09:32:40.660 --> 09:32:47.420 50 seconds for that next exorcism see where Falcons wants to look to strike here Amar still holding the skill point hasn't put it in 09:32:47.420 --> 09:32:49.420 Ravage yet 09:32:49.620 --> 09:32:52.380 But he's just not farming 3000 behind the axe 09:32:52.380 --> 09:32:59.380 WS just cruising all over the place doing whatever it seems to please us. 09:32:59.380 --> 09:33:07.380 Next Exorcism, they're gonna have to look to make something happen fast with it. 09:33:07.380 --> 09:33:09.380 They're expecting Mera's movement to be in gear. 09:33:09.380 --> 09:33:16.380 They've needed to put more effort on to hold in their wisdom and now here in Gangster they'll start to 14 minutes in 09:33:16.380 --> 09:33:19.380 and they should be able to get the kill out of this as well. 09:33:19.380 --> 09:33:25.380 well. Body blocks. Finally getting a mar involved. 09:33:25.380 --> 09:33:30.980 Aurora's just farming. They're getting that next timing here. The Vassal, as you said, 09:33:30.980 --> 09:33:35.340 done for Kaori. Mikoto's hitting his timings and it's a battle fury Ursa compared to that 09:33:35.340 --> 09:33:40.740 Life-Still who does not have this type of farm here. They're gonna fight. They've got 09:33:40.740 --> 09:33:42.740 Crazy timings already on the side of Aurora. 09:33:43.480 --> 09:33:44.040 Right now. 09:33:45.240 --> 09:33:46.140 Ghost coming out. 09:33:47.940 --> 09:33:50.540 Falcons does not have hookshot, they have chain frost and ravage. 09:33:50.740 --> 09:33:54.140 The foal's gonna try and bait in a little bit of a dive. 09:33:56.740 --> 09:33:57.540 Comes to the bait. 09:33:59.440 --> 09:34:02.940 Start up behind Maury and ready to help out Amal with the ravage at the ready. 09:34:07.040 --> 09:34:08.440 Half the exorcism used. 09:34:10.740 --> 09:34:12.740 I'll bring them away from the tower at least. 09:34:12.740 --> 09:34:14.740 We'll take out the ward. 09:34:14.740 --> 09:34:16.740 Dakota blinks away, smoke. 09:34:16.740 --> 09:34:19.740 They're gonna look for the fight as that exorcism ends, 09:34:19.740 --> 09:34:22.740 and that exorcism is just not gonna finish off the tower. 09:34:24.740 --> 09:34:27.740 Aurora, ready to look for the fight when there is no Exo themselves. 09:34:27.740 --> 09:34:30.740 They have their Ursa with blink, I believe the axe also. 09:34:30.740 --> 09:34:32.740 Okay, not having to blink just yet. 09:34:35.740 --> 09:34:36.740 For the raw pressure play. 09:34:36.740 --> 09:34:38.740 They're gonna find Cr- Ooh! 09:34:38.740 --> 09:34:39.740 Spits himself. 09:34:41.540 --> 09:34:42.740 A little bit of a misfit of that. 09:34:44.040 --> 09:34:46.340 Might have been tricky anyway though with the clock style. 09:34:46.640 --> 09:34:48.340 And Crit did have backup with him. 09:34:48.940 --> 09:34:50.740 They have to continue to follow Malvrain around. 09:34:50.740 --> 09:34:53.140 They can't let him really die, get jumped by himself. 09:34:53.440 --> 09:34:56.640 He cannot get slowed down in this game at all on this death profit. 09:35:03.540 --> 09:35:05.140 Back to getting the creeps, Aurora. 09:35:05.140 --> 09:35:09.120 waiting for WS to have that blink dagger he is pretty much gonna have it 09:35:09.120 --> 09:35:17.080 finished so 3000 plus gold lead over him and Amar can't go for those jumps can't 09:35:17.080 --> 09:35:20.300 just initiate much easier on the side of Aurora when he has that finished up to 09:35:20.300 --> 09:35:24.280 and it's gonna be a Yul's pick up also for Amar so they're gonna have these 09:35:24.280 --> 09:35:28.800 double Yul's versus the blink Ursa and the blink Axe if they can fight 09:35:28.800 --> 09:35:31.960 coordinate around Ravage around the exorcism that's kind of how their line 09:35:31.960 --> 09:35:46.060 of past to do. So Ferrora. Can't play around it. Can't look for these pickoffs much easier. 09:35:46.060 --> 09:35:49.960 One axe call into a plus one hero, likely a kill. Well for Falcons it's quite a bit 09:35:49.960 --> 09:35:57.520 more complicated. And they're just starting to rush. Oh this is a big concern. I mean 09:35:57.520 --> 09:36:02.640 And they have their ults, but are they actually able to head over to the pit and do anything? 09:36:02.640 --> 09:36:05.700 And if they're not able to head over to the pit and do anything about this whilst they 09:36:05.700 --> 09:36:07.820 have the ults, there's got to be a bit of a war inside. 09:36:07.820 --> 09:36:09.060 It definitely is. 09:36:09.060 --> 09:36:12.400 Life Stealer has the radiance, the ward coverage is already here though in Aurora. 09:36:12.400 --> 09:36:13.400 They're just already positioned. 09:36:13.400 --> 09:36:14.400 The Roshan's just at it. 09:36:14.400 --> 09:36:15.400 Can Crick go for a steal? 09:36:15.400 --> 09:36:16.400 He's not in position for it. 09:36:16.400 --> 09:36:17.400 Mira. 09:36:17.400 --> 09:36:21.000 Well, you call it the status, but WS gets the call of honor, the two of them. 09:36:21.000 --> 09:36:22.000 Mira. 09:36:22.000 --> 09:36:25.080 The Herald of Protections have a little longer as well, with the nightmare, finally dies, 09:36:25.080 --> 09:36:27.440 but it's board time for the rest of the team to turn up. 09:36:27.440 --> 09:36:29.440 He's trying to run, but the Kisses will get him! 09:36:29.440 --> 09:36:32.440 Oh, and this is looking really rough. 09:36:32.440 --> 09:36:35.440 They have Ravage, they have Exorcism, they can't even use it. 09:36:35.440 --> 09:36:37.440 Yeah, they couldn't get a team fight together, their Falcons. 09:36:37.440 --> 09:36:39.440 And Exorcism is used and he just dies. 09:36:42.440 --> 09:36:43.440 Another catch. 09:36:46.440 --> 09:36:49.440 We have one like the air for WS, Great, trying to run. 09:36:49.440 --> 09:36:51.440 Oh, get up. 09:36:51.440 --> 09:36:54.440 You get anyone in return, he can't just have to rage and back away. 09:36:54.440 --> 09:37:01.300 I'm playing this perfectly knowing exactly how to play versus this lineup not let the death prophet get any type of snowball kills 09:37:01.300 --> 09:37:06.000 They've only gotten one tower out of that extra system in these first 18 minutes so far here 09:37:06.480 --> 09:37:10.880 Responding perfectly mirror sacrifices his life, but well worth it to get the catch get the call on to 09:37:13.120 --> 09:37:14.880 And Amar 09:37:14.880 --> 09:37:16.880 Trying to farm and recover 09:37:16.880 --> 09:37:19.640 But dangerous from to step forward here versus this Ursa 09:37:19.640 --> 09:37:26.280 But, Death Prophet lineups also, one of these at once in the forever, I'm getting roached 09:37:26.280 --> 09:37:32.120 too, right, getting advantages, pressing it forward, but, and Ursa taking it away, nightfall, 09:37:32.120 --> 09:37:33.880 about to be top net worth. 09:37:33.880 --> 09:37:38.860 It just looks like a really solid Ursa game. 09:37:38.860 --> 09:37:41.920 If he doesn't die early, pretending he's silenced, is there anything now, what's the 09:37:41.920 --> 09:37:42.920 answer for him? 09:37:42.920 --> 09:37:43.920 Yeah, it's... 09:37:43.920 --> 09:37:48.400 Yeah, I think the win rate was helping too hot for the death profit. 09:37:49.920 --> 09:37:54.320 And what about this tournament? I think I've seen it in the lose at least two of the games that we saw, I think. 09:37:54.320 --> 09:37:59.120 Yeah, I think the stats have two and four games in this game. So you might want to check that just in case. 09:37:59.760 --> 09:38:05.920 But even in kind of high level pub games, it's down there sort of 48% win rate. 09:38:05.920 --> 09:38:10.400 It's a dangerous hero. It can be a very dangerous hero to play if you do die early. 09:38:10.400 --> 09:38:19.340 use to protect or to set off another death for Malrin this could be another quick one 09:38:19.340 --> 09:38:24.220 I think it just might be the question is will it be the quickest out of the quick ones we've 09:38:24.220 --> 09:38:27.500 had today what was their quick what was the last game no it's not gonna be there they're 09:38:27.500 --> 09:38:32.700 building hitting is a little lackluster but they can kill heroes so they are cruising falcons 09:38:32.700 --> 09:38:36.260 I don't know how they have to try to slow things down they have to put together a team fight with 09:38:36.260 --> 09:38:38.960 Ravage and the Death Broth will de-sum-how, at least. 09:38:38.960 --> 09:38:40.760 They can't just play this passive style like this, 09:38:40.760 --> 09:38:41.760 because they're just getting run over. 09:38:43.760 --> 09:38:44.960 Snake King and Skeeter. 09:38:44.960 --> 09:38:45.760 Makoto. 09:38:47.760 --> 09:38:49.760 Ike, you'll get the pull onto him. 09:38:50.960 --> 09:38:51.760 Makoto! 09:38:52.760 --> 09:38:53.960 They will die! 09:38:54.460 --> 09:38:56.560 Let's see if they can get Mero as well out of this. 09:38:57.060 --> 09:39:00.360 Vance and Nightmare comes in, it's buying time for the rest of them to head over. 09:39:00.660 --> 09:39:02.960 The Falcons at least get the two kills. 09:39:03.160 --> 09:39:03.860 Can it get the Sitter? 09:39:03.860 --> 09:39:05.060 Won't be able to get Snake King out of this. 09:39:05.060 --> 09:39:05.960 Can Skeeter get out? 09:39:05.960 --> 09:39:10.240 He will, so the best trade they've had so far this game, Falcons? 09:39:10.240 --> 09:39:14.480 Finally, able to find the snapfire, playing over-aggressive, they punish it. 09:39:14.480 --> 09:39:17.800 Tormentor, whoops, they went to the gate, they'll come back, nightfall. 09:39:17.800 --> 09:39:18.880 Calls for his buddies. 09:39:18.880 --> 09:39:20.880 He has... is that BKB done? 09:39:21.880 --> 09:39:24.880 That is BKB done, before our ravage has been used. 09:39:26.640 --> 09:39:28.200 Oh, we'll see here. 09:39:28.200 --> 09:39:33.000 They're able to deal with Mikado, when he comes walking into them, and they surprise him with the three of them. 09:39:33.000 --> 09:39:35.000 Chainfrost set up also there. 09:39:35.960 --> 09:39:41.600 So they get something, they get a big kill on Mikoto. 09:39:41.600 --> 09:39:45.480 The game state does not feel like it's changed too much at all here, Skeeter just getting 09:39:45.480 --> 09:39:46.800 a little bit of gold influx. 09:39:46.800 --> 09:39:59.360 He's going for the blink, I imagine yes on Maarek, because sometimes you do want this 09:39:59.360 --> 09:40:02.880 agonims because it's so good on the type, I do feel like they need to get some type 09:40:02.880 --> 09:40:07.000 synergy together to start helping Maureen get back in the game. This will be a big 09:40:07.000 --> 09:40:08.200 kill if they can finish it. 09:40:10.700 --> 09:40:12.220 Finding some openings here. 09:40:12.720 --> 09:40:13.220 Pretty good. 09:40:13.220 --> 09:40:17.620 These moments when Aurora, that's seen with the Aegis, getting a kill against Makoto, 09:40:17.620 --> 09:40:21.480 now being able to bring down WS, a little bit of a slowdown. 09:40:23.340 --> 09:40:26.880 Aurora splitting up a little bit there, right, playing a bit too overaggressive with Makoto 09:40:26.880 --> 09:40:30.160 in particular, but WS just getting caught off. Nice move from Falcons. 09:40:30.160 --> 09:40:34.480 How's the BKB looking for Mal'Rain? 09:40:34.480 --> 09:40:37.520 That maybe, I guess they're back next big timing, right around that, so he doesn't have 09:40:37.520 --> 09:40:41.000 to worry about just getting burst from all this magical damage. 09:40:41.000 --> 09:40:44.000 Top, a mark. 09:40:44.000 --> 09:40:51.840 I'm able to get the ULs off, Nightfall did not want to use the BKB, I guess. 09:40:51.840 --> 09:41:01.880 Then it was always snaking will got the last hit earlier too, okay? 09:41:01.880 --> 09:41:05.220 I was gonna say they probably want to give everything to Skeeter now at this point when 09:41:05.220 --> 09:41:07.220 he has is at this deficit versus an Ursa 09:41:07.220 --> 09:41:17.540 There's an amplified damage right here, it's like my crit will just take it and the threat 09:41:17.540 --> 09:41:19.220 that might have been Aurora around 09:41:19.220 --> 09:41:24.900 Okay, Malarine, this is the BKB pretty much done, Amar. 09:41:24.900 --> 09:41:29.880 He's committed at least for the first point of the agonim, so he's got the point booster. 09:41:29.880 --> 09:41:33.100 So looks at the way for these timings to all come together before they look to fight directly 09:41:33.100 --> 09:41:37.660 into Aurora, but Aurora, they're gonna have probably the triple BKBs into that, and there's 09:41:37.660 --> 09:41:40.100 yet to be a ravage. 09:41:40.100 --> 09:41:41.500 So let's see if Amar can get the connection. 09:41:41.500 --> 09:41:44.580 It's usually when you're playing versus like those BKBs, if you have a blink, you can 09:41:44.580 --> 09:41:46.980 maybe catch them off guard a little bit here, but... 09:41:46.980 --> 09:41:50.520 What do you think he will do? Will he indeed buy the... 09:41:50.520 --> 09:41:51.520 I think he's going to the axe. 09:41:51.520 --> 09:41:53.680 He'll get the axe finish first, yeah. 09:41:53.680 --> 09:41:55.360 If you already buy the point, we'll just go for the axe. 09:41:55.360 --> 09:41:59.120 And then you play the fights a little differently, where you kite the BKBs, right, and you play 09:41:59.120 --> 09:42:02.320 for more around the gushes, which we do see most of these tides anyway play around that 09:42:02.320 --> 09:42:03.320 style. 09:42:03.320 --> 09:42:12.040 Not to think being able to slow down the tempo a little bit, Valkans. 09:42:12.040 --> 09:42:13.640 Pretty solid recovery, right, so far. 09:42:13.640 --> 09:42:16.920 Well, no, you should consider all the things that were going wrong for him. 09:42:16.920 --> 09:42:21.360 So how kind of quickly Aurora we're getting this gold and XP lead against them 09:42:24.080 --> 09:42:29.100 Same couple debated items being queued up here on the side of Aurora so they are looking perhaps for a break 09:42:29.100 --> 09:42:32.400 Mikoto has queued up that silver edge would make sense of course versus that tide 09:42:37.760 --> 09:42:41.440 In pace the game you said we'll slow down a little too because Aurora last game 09:42:41.440 --> 09:42:43.960 They have this laundry that can super force buildings when they are ahead 09:42:43.960 --> 09:42:50.220 This lineup is more designed around just killing heroes and then getting ahead after the words hitting the buildings is quite a bit more difficult for them 09:42:52.140 --> 09:42:54.140 And BKB done for Malrin 09:42:57.140 --> 09:43:02.700 But three BKBs coming out for the side of Aurora in a quick second here WS is about to have it finished 09:43:02.700 --> 09:43:04.700 If they can kill WS one more time before it 09:43:06.300 --> 09:43:08.300 Would be pretty solid 09:43:09.580 --> 09:43:11.580 Top coming in 09:43:13.960 --> 09:43:15.960 He's done. 09:43:15.960 --> 09:43:20.960 Punished for his greed. 09:43:20.960 --> 09:43:22.460 They were super ready for that play. 09:43:22.460 --> 09:43:24.660 Waiting for it for quite some time there. 09:43:24.660 --> 09:43:29.560 Crit, is infested up, has a blink dagger. 09:43:29.560 --> 09:43:33.160 Wants to find Makoto in particular or the supports. 09:43:33.160 --> 09:43:35.060 Sticking together right now, Makoto. 09:43:35.060 --> 09:43:36.960 Mirror and caloric. 09:43:36.960 --> 09:43:38.760 You're gonna see Snake King. 09:43:38.760 --> 09:43:42.160 He's behind him and not leaving any chance to get anything off. 09:43:42.160 --> 09:43:44.160 They're thinking about going... 09:43:44.660 --> 09:43:46.660 Probably waiting till they split up a little bit here. 09:43:47.540 --> 09:43:48.540 And they catch Mira. 09:43:49.380 --> 09:43:51.380 She's quite tanky on this vein. 09:43:51.380 --> 09:43:52.880 Not the easiest one to go for. 09:43:53.160 --> 09:43:54.040 They'll back away. 09:43:56.840 --> 09:43:58.340 Good vision coverage for Marora. 09:43:59.240 --> 09:44:01.160 Continuing to flag very aggressively here. 09:44:01.160 --> 09:44:01.660 Mira. 09:44:02.460 --> 09:44:04.460 I'll find him, because he's just left behind. 09:44:06.160 --> 09:44:07.160 Same time though. 09:44:07.860 --> 09:44:08.960 We have some night force here. 09:44:08.960 --> 09:44:11.760 If anybody tepees into this tier 2 top to get the Crete wave... 09:44:11.760 --> 09:44:14.460 They were expecting Amar to come over here, looking to punish him again. 09:44:15.960 --> 09:44:20.060 Amar is 200 gold from his axe, a full basher on Nightfall. 09:44:20.560 --> 09:44:22.260 To me, he's had an insane game. 09:44:22.460 --> 09:44:24.560 As he tends to on his Ursa's, even when they lose... 09:44:25.360 --> 09:44:26.260 Yeah, even when they... 09:44:26.260 --> 09:44:30.160 I was going to be seeing some Ursa performances that haven't been too hot right now. 09:44:30.160 --> 09:44:30.660 Yep. 09:44:30.660 --> 09:44:33.460 It's not the easiest carry to win with right now. 09:44:33.460 --> 09:44:33.960 No. 09:44:33.960 --> 09:44:37.460 I mean, Nightfall, though, I've seen games where they lose and he's like 18-0 on this Ursa, 09:44:37.460 --> 09:44:38.860 so he always has these good games. 09:44:38.860 --> 09:44:40.660 Crit, we'll walk into a world of hurt. 09:44:41.760 --> 09:44:44.760 Does break the smoke, can Skeeter insure his right of way. 09:44:44.760 --> 09:44:48.760 Right away he got the right TP but my goodness was that close, WS nearly having him. 09:44:48.760 --> 09:44:50.760 Hot on his trail, that was insanely close. 09:44:53.760 --> 09:44:57.760 And they just continue to be, I see Falcon's right there splitting up, trying to get some more farmer on the map. 09:44:57.760 --> 09:45:00.760 It's still Aurora getting that gold lead, it continues to grow overall. 09:45:00.760 --> 09:45:04.760 And the scaling, for the Snapfire we've seen how much this hero can scale. 09:45:04.760 --> 09:45:08.760 Death Prophet perhaps a bit unexplored that we've seen in terms of the scaling, but overall, 09:45:08.760 --> 09:45:14.040 Overall, this hero hasn't ever been played too much in terms of wanting to scale toward these super late stages. 09:45:16.680 --> 09:45:18.520 So I have to say what Mt. Green can do, 09:45:18.520 --> 09:45:20.680 unless he's had a bit of a rough time into this game. 09:45:21.080 --> 09:45:24.600 And if he hacks, gosh, it is going to allow him to clean targets up. 09:45:27.560 --> 09:45:28.120 And I fall. 09:45:28.680 --> 09:45:29.480 I'm just gonna wait. 09:45:30.120 --> 09:45:32.360 I mean, and how active are they going to be in looking for that comeback play? 09:45:32.360 --> 09:45:34.840 Like, are we going to get a smoke up from Falcon right now? 09:45:34.840 --> 09:45:38.680 Or is it purely just sort of waiting to see what sort of slip-ups Aurora make? 09:45:38.680 --> 09:45:41.680 I thought that they would smoke by, but probably gonna wait for the Roche. 09:45:41.680 --> 09:45:44.380 Let's see what they do find if they find a big fight beforehand. 09:45:44.380 --> 09:45:48.980 We're gonna find Mera, but in turn, Nautful's gonna look towards Great Jumpfall with the Dirt, they'll get the kill. 09:45:48.980 --> 09:45:53.880 And Rook, the champ from Star Wars 9-4, he's just gonna put the BKBM run, and leave Mera behind. 09:45:53.880 --> 09:45:58.080 Exorcism used at the end of everything here. If they don't catch WS, that's wasted. 09:45:58.080 --> 09:46:02.580 They're not gonna catch anyone else. Everybody's out for Aurora, only Mera going down there. 09:46:02.580 --> 09:46:04.380 Oh, that's rough. 09:46:04.380 --> 09:46:12.380 Nightfall, that was pretty hilarious by the way. BKB's runs on top of his bane and bounces the chain for us on kills and he's a good bro. 09:46:12.380 --> 09:46:15.380 For Obmera, didn't stand a chance. 09:46:15.380 --> 09:46:21.380 Nope. Nightfall, queuing up the MKB next versus that Radiance. They're already setting up for the play top. 09:46:21.380 --> 09:46:26.380 Maureen, just to be very careful how he shows, he will be. 09:46:26.380 --> 09:46:30.380 Another exorcism, not gonna claim too much though, just a support kill. 09:46:30.380 --> 09:46:37.380 BKB was used, gonna come back up in about 50 seconds, they can't punish it. 09:46:40.880 --> 09:46:43.880 They tried to look for a move there, was making an MR. 09:46:45.880 --> 09:46:55.880 Can't find another catch. I think they're looking for the Erso because they knew the BKB and Razor's down, so they were gonna just try throwing everything onto them there, but not having the blinks on either the tide or the lich just yet. 09:46:55.880 --> 09:46:57.080 Getting close to having them. 09:46:58.760 --> 09:47:01.600 But it's Aurora, looking for the smoke plate themselves and Roche it is up. 09:47:01.600 --> 09:47:04.360 Yeah, I think they get a kill here, they'll move straight into the Roche pit. 09:47:04.360 --> 09:47:06.240 And there's no extra system for Mal'Reyhons. 09:47:06.240 --> 09:47:10.160 Honestly, even if they don't get a kill, they could probably just walk into the Roche and take it. 09:47:13.280 --> 09:47:15.040 Kill would be a nice little bonus. 09:47:15.040 --> 09:47:15.560 Amar. 09:47:16.720 --> 09:47:17.220 Oop. 09:47:17.680 --> 09:47:18.180 WS. 09:47:18.520 --> 09:47:19.160 The ears. 09:47:19.680 --> 09:47:20.880 They've lost vision for a second there. 09:47:20.880 --> 09:47:22.760 Not gonna be able to make the, just from the blind jump. 09:47:22.760 --> 09:47:30.920 Looks like they will just be able to back up for that roast, there's no maureen exorcism. 09:47:30.920 --> 09:47:35.640 It looks like they really do want that kill first. 09:47:35.640 --> 09:47:40.840 There's the blink on a mark. 09:47:40.840 --> 09:47:45.440 They have to try and look to fight around this roast right, they can ulti back and let 09:47:45.440 --> 09:47:46.440 this go. 09:47:46.440 --> 09:47:48.480 Yeah, 20 seconds for exorcism. 09:47:48.480 --> 09:47:49.560 They need to get the angle with the ravage. 09:47:49.560 --> 09:47:55.560 They're gonna be a big BKB's off, it's gonna be a big uh-oh. 09:47:55.560 --> 09:47:58.560 And if they get jumped first, it's also gonna be a big uh-oh. 09:47:58.560 --> 09:48:01.560 There's Aurora, they have the high ground. 09:48:02.560 --> 09:48:04.560 Warden will get spotted immediately. 09:48:06.560 --> 09:48:08.560 They're gonna have to blink as well on snaking. 09:48:08.560 --> 09:48:10.560 They're being annoying, canceling his blink with a mire. 09:48:10.560 --> 09:48:12.560 Ah, stepping up! 09:48:14.560 --> 09:48:15.560 Pushback, that's the ghost now! 09:48:15.560 --> 09:48:20.240 Now, see the jump, the WS gets to call it onto the turn, the Kits is coming in as well, the supernova's out, 09:48:20.240 --> 09:48:24.240 Maury, who usually used to buy himself a little bit of safety, but Knifeful's on top of it, 09:48:24.240 --> 09:48:28.240 the spike stacking up, the supernova's in there as well, Maury will survive, 09:48:28.240 --> 09:48:33.700 Ravage comes out of the three of them, dive for them, Kaori though, finishes off the death prophet, Maury's gone. 09:48:34.200 --> 09:48:40.700 They'll chase off Ford for WS, who they will slowly but surely bring down, so they get a trade, 09:48:40.700 --> 09:48:41.920 but he's not over yet. 09:48:41.920 --> 09:48:47.720 Nightfall the Makoto, they'll find Crinn in the trees, and now they'll look for Skidder, the Grinch there, we'll get put to a stop by the Yule Scepter, 09:48:47.720 --> 09:48:50.800 Cory does die, the Night voice in on top of Skidder. 09:48:51.460 --> 09:48:53.740 Try and chase him down here, with the Rage. 09:48:53.740 --> 09:48:54.640 First is cleaning up. 09:48:54.640 --> 09:48:58.560 Shredder coming in on the Skidder, and Skidder got anywhere to run, actually looks like Nightfall's gonna be cautioned, 09:48:58.560 --> 09:49:09.360 he'll not blink back up in a second if he wants to chase, but he won't try and push on forward and try and like fight around the fact that the tide Amal is still there with the potential of the Yules to hold him back. 09:49:09.360 --> 09:49:14.360 They lose Malrin again though. He dies instantly pretty much in the fight. 09:49:14.360 --> 09:49:21.360 He gets straight on top of this death prophet. And even with the BKB and the ULTS, it doesn't matter. They can still kill him pretty easily. 09:49:21.360 --> 09:49:25.360 There's some casualties, but again, Aurora continuing to grow the lead. 09:49:25.360 --> 09:49:29.360 And if they want to, knifle can head into the pit and get that rush. 09:49:29.360 --> 09:49:33.360 And this is before the MKB is even done. If he has MKB, he will kill Skeeter. 09:49:33.360 --> 09:49:38.360 It does buyback too, right? So is it extra life that Falcons throws into the mix there? 09:49:38.360 --> 09:49:44.720 they do get something at least but not much at all the ravage coming in there 09:49:44.720 --> 09:49:51.260 so at least we believe three of them tried to have the patience with that 09:49:51.260 --> 09:49:55.480 ravage as long as possible to get it on all those be non-bkb targets but 09:49:55.480 --> 09:49:59.040 nightfall the one that's just raining supreme in these fights he's gonna get 09:49:59.040 --> 09:50:04.920 this ages next fight ages and that newly picked up beat mkp on it now the 09:50:04.920 --> 09:50:10.800 targets are going to die way way faster since you can just full focus them execution has 09:50:10.800 --> 09:50:15.360 to be literally perfect it feels like for Falcons at this point Skeeter at least does 09:50:15.360 --> 09:50:19.400 get some things going for him though right he is the only one having a good game quick 09:50:19.400 --> 09:50:24.800 cp up towards the top like fine snaking trying to push the wave out how Skeeter's itemization 09:50:24.800 --> 09:50:29.960 looking he's close to his ags close to 20 stopping a pretty decent time it's just these 09:50:29.960 --> 09:50:33.440 disables that have both through him in the earth so the match up overall it's never 09:50:33.440 --> 09:50:37.880 a fun matchup to play. Never has been really the last year into us. So the effect of the 09:50:37.880 --> 09:50:43.680 axe does sound about a little bit, but when you're kind of more than an item behind, feels 09:50:43.680 --> 09:50:46.640 pretty rough. And you're playing it to axe call, fiend's 09:50:46.640 --> 09:50:50.560 grip and potential fiendic's supernova that can pop and all get through you through that 09:50:50.560 --> 09:50:57.040 rage. So you have to be pretty much perfect on Skeeter to be able to go for these targets. 09:50:57.040 --> 09:51:01.680 So for now, done. Yeah, they've got that break option as well. So we've seen how quickly 09:51:01.680 --> 09:51:03.680 They can kill off 09:51:03.680 --> 09:51:06.560 Maureen now look at that. We'll also die pretty quickly as well 09:51:06.560 --> 09:51:07.760 You do not see that too often 09:51:07.760 --> 09:51:12.520 He wants to keep the double catapult alive so uses it outside of the face 09:51:13.200 --> 09:51:15.680 With the banner that's actually pretty interesting 09:51:18.000 --> 09:51:22.200 So I don't know if that actually does too much of anything just guys I guess get some material to guarantee you 09:51:23.800 --> 09:51:25.800 Mara yeah very interesting 09:51:25.800 --> 09:51:31.280 It's going to be the mid-creep wave being pushed in as well. 09:51:31.280 --> 09:51:33.280 Kept this catapult a little bit longer. 09:51:33.280 --> 09:51:38.000 Let me get like one or two extra hits onto the tier three or something. 09:51:38.000 --> 09:51:40.680 Shebas is finished up for Malrin. 09:51:40.680 --> 09:51:41.880 Maybe. 09:51:41.880 --> 09:51:46.520 Maybe it can survive when they jump him. 09:51:46.520 --> 09:51:48.080 It still feels difficult. 09:51:48.080 --> 09:51:50.680 Yeah, there's just so much overwhelming damage. 09:51:50.680 --> 09:51:52.480 How's the four stacks or anything? 09:51:52.480 --> 09:51:53.920 They need something to be able to protect. 09:51:53.920 --> 09:51:59.760 Okay, so they're building Tord of Force on the Lich, but they did go for double blinks on the two supports, so they don't have that to protect him either. 09:51:59.760 --> 09:52:05.920 But they need things to be able to distance him. They have the Eul's, which are decent, but I want to see these other tools as well to protect Maureen. 09:52:06.560 --> 09:52:08.960 He needs some type of way to reset inside of these fights. 09:52:16.000 --> 09:52:18.000 Nightfall, finding a haste drone. 09:52:19.680 --> 09:52:20.960 He's looking for somebody here. 09:52:21.440 --> 09:52:22.960 And it's in a second! 09:52:23.920 --> 09:52:30.420 That's been absolutely terrifying, both of these games nightfall. 09:52:30.420 --> 09:52:31.420 The fuzzy was he. 09:52:31.420 --> 09:52:36.360 We were worried, at least in this game, how big this Ursa was going to get and my goodness 09:52:36.360 --> 09:52:37.360 is he big. 09:52:37.360 --> 09:52:40.960 Yeah, he is hitting, honestly, probably sort of similar kind of GPMs as he did on the 09:52:40.960 --> 09:52:41.960 loan. 09:52:41.960 --> 09:52:42.960 Yeah, actually, I need to pull it up. 09:52:42.960 --> 09:52:46.960 He's a little bit shorter, a little bit lower, but it's not pretty close. 09:52:46.960 --> 09:53:11.960 I think he's about to leave, yeah. And now, Piss is coming through. WS looking for an angle. 09:53:11.960 --> 09:53:12.800 He's gonna get him. 09:53:12.800 --> 09:53:14.600 Gets the catch onto Maureen. 09:53:14.600 --> 09:53:15.600 Tracks him back a little bit. 09:53:15.600 --> 09:53:17.480 Now Nite pulls in to finish off the job. 09:53:17.480 --> 09:53:20.180 Maureen's dead, both of them gone without buyback. 09:53:20.180 --> 09:53:21.480 That's all they're all used. 09:53:21.480 --> 09:53:22.520 Aurora wanna chase. 09:53:22.520 --> 09:53:23.840 He's gonna blink again in a few seconds. 09:53:23.840 --> 09:53:26.000 WS, he's gonna be ready to go for more here. 09:53:26.000 --> 09:53:27.440 Skeeter, one second. 09:53:27.440 --> 09:53:28.360 Yeah, there we go. 09:53:28.360 --> 09:53:30.280 Comes in with a jump onto Snake King. 09:53:30.280 --> 09:53:33.560 Another dunk, another kill for WS, four dead. 09:53:33.560 --> 09:53:34.920 And the Crip gonna get Crip. 09:53:34.920 --> 09:53:36.720 The buyback will come out here for Snake King 09:53:36.720 --> 09:53:38.480 to try and save Skeeter. 09:53:38.480 --> 09:53:40.800 But Skeeter will fall. 09:53:40.800 --> 09:53:49.280 They don't have to buy back, Spore dead. Aurora, I mean dead. Both of these games looking phenomenal. 09:53:49.280 --> 09:53:53.920 Another effective stop in a row. We pretty much have five stops in a row. 09:53:53.920 --> 09:53:58.080 In a tournament, there's had so many back and forth, 60 many games. 09:53:58.080 --> 09:54:02.000 Looks like the teams have suddenly figured out how to close these games up. 09:54:02.000 --> 09:54:05.920 These are the teams that know how to play back and punish green. We're seeing absolutely that. 09:54:05.920 --> 09:54:09.280 Kori with his Phoenix, the egg instantly right on top of the tide. 09:54:09.280 --> 09:54:12.720 You can see him on the corner, oh my god, I don't want to ravage here, but felt forced to. 09:54:13.920 --> 09:54:14.580 Nightfall. 09:54:15.220 --> 09:54:19.060 Apollo Bissell now delivered for him on top of everything too here for that life stealer. 09:54:20.520 --> 09:54:22.820 He's just getting ridiculous now at this point. 09:54:22.820 --> 09:54:26.460 And the fights, they're using Exorcism, they're using Ravage, and they're not coming. 09:54:26.460 --> 09:54:28.760 They're not really coming too close to coming in those fights. 09:54:31.660 --> 09:54:33.960 I tried to come in with a bit of an answer to that. 09:54:33.960 --> 09:54:38.260 Snap mid this game, and it's just not worked out for Falcon so far. 09:54:38.260 --> 09:54:42.260 It just does not look nearly as strong and nearly as safe. 09:54:42.260 --> 09:54:43.260 The lane was alright. 09:54:43.260 --> 09:54:44.260 It was. 09:54:44.260 --> 09:54:45.260 We saw the strength there. 09:54:45.260 --> 09:54:48.260 You know, you're kind of able to just blast the snapfire with your nukes, push them out 09:54:48.260 --> 09:54:53.260 the lane, but the overall game, it does very much kind of feel a problem that you're a 09:54:53.260 --> 09:54:54.260 death prophet. 09:54:54.260 --> 09:54:55.260 And they're a snapfire. 09:54:55.260 --> 09:54:56.260 Yep. 09:54:56.260 --> 09:54:58.020 Not only can they play safer, they also can scale. 09:54:58.020 --> 09:55:01.260 They can go for the right click build as we've seen multiple of these snapfires do. 09:55:01.260 --> 09:55:02.260 E pretty much has the Daedalus. 09:55:02.260 --> 09:55:05.260 Finished up as well too, so their damage is increasing drastically. 09:55:05.260 --> 09:55:07.260 I find Kuroi. 09:55:07.260 --> 09:55:09.660 And I feel Falcon's bare damage. 09:55:09.660 --> 09:55:12.020 It's only really increasing around Skeeter now at this point. 09:55:12.020 --> 09:55:19.820 He has level 3 Exorcism in that last fight, and it wasn't enough. 09:55:19.820 --> 09:55:25.380 One side of Rax claimed Aurora, taking up 4 sets of items on everybody as we said Mikoto. 09:55:25.380 --> 09:55:30.140 Having the Daedalus now finished up with the nav damage, WS, Shiva's, on top of the Consecrated 09:55:30.140 --> 09:55:33.500 Rapture with Epra, he's also huge. 09:55:33.500 --> 09:55:40.540 He's on his own, he's caught, he dies so fast. 09:55:40.540 --> 09:55:44.940 My knife will even pop in the BKB because he's like surely there's someone else there 09:55:44.940 --> 09:55:55.780 with him but that wasn't, it was just the death prophet on their lonesome. 09:55:55.780 --> 09:56:00.900 Checking a couple of these other death prophets, it's got a 42% so there's a bit of a lower 09:56:00.900 --> 09:56:08.660 side. Doubtly getting taken advantage of though here, Aurora. Knowing exactly, they just know how to play 09:56:08.660 --> 09:56:11.780 Versons that you can tell the way that they're kiting in and out of the fights, making sure that that 09:56:11.780 --> 09:56:18.820 Exo doesn't connect. Falcons looking for another play here, perhaps trying to catch Aurora off 09:56:18.820 --> 09:56:27.220 guard since the death prophet is dead. He can be cooled down for the Earth so they really want to try 09:56:27.220 --> 09:56:32.980 to all in Nightfall. His team is coming over to connect. They're going to go for it. Alright, 09:56:32.980 --> 09:56:38.420 see if they can blow up the Ursa. They can! Massive kill to Thym while they were down pretty 09:56:38.420 --> 09:56:44.980 much 25k or something before that. Can they get out? Pretty much the tubs are sort of just 09:56:45.540 --> 09:56:50.900 take that win and get out. They're not going to get anything else for now, but a big window. 09:56:50.900 --> 09:56:56.420 80 seconds, no Ursa bringing down Nightfall there for the first time this game. That's a good way 09:56:56.420 --> 09:57:01.520 way to punish him using that BKB that he used for Malrin, right? You were mentioning he thought people were behind him. It wasn't the case. 09:57:01.520 --> 09:57:05.960 So BKB goes late, so that nightfall does die for the first time in this game. 09:57:08.240 --> 09:57:12.160 Can they turn this into another sequence of kills? I want to say they have to. 09:57:12.560 --> 09:57:17.360 Falcons immediately infest up, looking for the next move. WS is showing top. 09:57:19.080 --> 09:57:22.280 Can they get there in time? Not gonna be the case. Scan comes out. 09:57:26.420 --> 09:57:37.260 Let's have a look here as they are going to hope that someone maybe comes in around this 09:57:37.260 --> 09:57:38.260 tier 2. 09:57:38.260 --> 09:57:41.260 Can I look to at least get the tower perhaps to have it here? 09:57:41.260 --> 09:57:43.260 I don't think this will be held on too far Aurora. 09:57:43.260 --> 09:57:45.260 Oh wait, I mean the photo is. 09:57:45.260 --> 09:57:46.260 Oh yeah. 09:57:46.260 --> 09:57:47.260 He's here. 09:57:47.260 --> 09:57:51.540 He does have the Arcane rune with the Silver Edge, but he does have that permanent invis 09:57:51.540 --> 09:57:53.420 he can't play around here, tower. 09:57:53.420 --> 09:57:56.420 Maureen will be able to set up for it here. 09:57:56.420 --> 09:57:58.420 There is a glyph though. 09:58:05.420 --> 09:58:09.420 Smoke up from Aurora as Nightfall is going to be respawning soon. 09:58:09.420 --> 09:58:11.420 Skeeter does have Basher finished up. 09:58:11.420 --> 09:58:15.420 He is keeping up at least with two of the cores. 09:58:15.420 --> 09:58:18.420 Still has a distance between him and that Ursa. 09:58:19.420 --> 09:58:21.420 But his damage is increasing. 09:58:21.420 --> 09:58:26.400 And they are getting some of these nice neutral items as well too as we do see the flares bought off for the life stealer 09:58:26.900 --> 09:58:30.480 Mandible with quickened on the death profit the invasion is not going to work so effectively 09:58:31.280 --> 09:58:34.100 I'm art. I'm gonna get the catch on to it quick and easy kill 09:58:36.180 --> 09:58:40.260 Make photos damage is getting it pretty insane pretty fast here, too 09:58:40.580 --> 09:58:45.020 They're great stairs. Yeah, and they put the catch on to crit as well 09:58:46.140 --> 09:58:48.140 There's the reach as well for the nightmare 09:58:48.900 --> 09:58:50.900 Do I see another dunk for him? 09:58:51.420 --> 09:59:01.420 20 armor harvested as well, do have to talk about how much he has when it is a lot of physical damage on the side of Falcons there that he's going to be able to resist first. 09:59:02.420 --> 09:59:12.420 Constricting the map Falcons, they found one opportunity because the BKB was used from the earth and they can, you threw everything onto him but now back to business Aurora setting up for the push. 09:59:13.420 --> 09:59:15.420 They're really just out coming for the base again. 09:59:15.420 --> 09:59:21.420 And there's a hex on Kaori, so if anybody shows and they're not careful they could just get hexed and it's killed. 09:59:26.420 --> 09:59:30.420 That was annoying. Just fouls the overpower as soon as it's used. 09:59:32.420 --> 09:59:34.420 20 seconds still ravage. 09:59:36.420 --> 09:59:39.420 And they'll just back up. Got the tower. Rosh is up. 09:59:39.420 --> 09:59:46.660 Claiming the high grounds, keeping them inside the base, and keeping these wards all over 09:59:46.660 --> 09:59:49.460 the place here too, so they'll see you when Falcons comes out if they do want to look 09:59:49.460 --> 09:59:51.180 to contest that roast. 09:59:51.180 --> 09:59:57.860 Don't think anyone checked it yet, on the side of Aurora. 09:59:57.860 --> 10:00:03.940 Looks weird at least, but it's set up in the area over there. 10:00:03.940 --> 10:00:07.500 Falcons scared to come outside, they have no vision, except for that one ward in the 10:00:07.500 --> 10:00:22.060 top lane. Chifting the Roshback towards top Aurora was waiting for that. 10:00:22.060 --> 10:00:51.980 I mean, if it doesn't happen there, I don't know when it's going to happen here for Falcons, 10:00:51.980 --> 10:00:56.380 this game. They hit a three-man ravage. That was as good as you could ask. They were incredibly 10:00:56.380 --> 10:01:02.220 grouped up on Aurora, but it just didn't matter. Amar tried his best there to make it work, 10:01:02.220 --> 10:01:08.940 but it was not good enough to rectify the situation. They're down 24k, four dead, only 10:01:08.940 --> 10:01:13.620 WS falling, and just getting to bring down Maureen there in those final moments, that's 10:01:13.620 --> 10:01:18.860 gonna hurt. It looked pretty because they get the three men, but they're at such a disadvantage. 10:01:18.860 --> 10:01:25.200 Not just one hero doing damage on Aurora. Everyone is killing everybody. They do insane damage across the board on their heroes. 10:01:25.200 --> 10:01:28.500 Mikoto, 25, looks like it's it. 10:01:30.380 --> 10:01:32.380 One more fight, perhaps, for the side of Falcons. 10:01:35.060 --> 10:01:38.540 If even that level 25s are here for Aurora. 10:01:38.540 --> 10:01:40.820 Yeah, these tier 4s, getting destroyed. 10:01:40.820 --> 10:01:44.940 Mira, ready to look for some cheeky plays here, close towards the fountain. 10:01:44.940 --> 10:01:46.620 The buyback will come out from Snake King. 10:01:46.620 --> 10:01:49.460 He's got the grab on tomorrow and the Cogs will push him back under the fountain 10:01:50.740 --> 10:01:56.300 My man brings up some of a little longer, but he will die in no respect the buyback to our backcogs 10:01:56.300 --> 10:01:59.340 They'll be like, okay, you want to keep playing this game. Yep, we'll make it 10:01:59.340 --> 10:02:05.340 You know, they can go back for that roast after the successful fight win Amar and some smiley face 10:02:09.980 --> 10:02:12.740 It's off a couple of games this has been for Falcons 10:02:12.740 --> 10:02:18.660 This might be their last effort and they gotta go again rabbit shit up and swing it around still cool down on ravage 10:02:18.860 --> 10:02:23.940 Exorcism 15 Aurora backing up waiting for the reset. It has to be now and ever for Falcons 10:02:24.380 --> 10:02:28.780 How those BKBs looking they're all up on the side of Aurora and those 25. They are here 10:02:30.740 --> 10:02:34.900 So you just go for it in the pit like you just pop exorcism, you know, I think you have to on Falcons 10:02:38.300 --> 10:02:40.300 Surprise he's not popping the exorcism 10:02:40.300 --> 10:02:47.560 They're still trying to get decently quick, but yeah, maybe the acceleration would have 10:02:47.560 --> 10:02:48.560 been valued. 10:02:48.560 --> 10:02:54.480 The kisses, they're coming in and there's the jump forward, WS gets the call on, Eskida, 10:02:54.480 --> 10:02:58.760 Eskida's gone, Mario will put the BKB but the Bastions come through for nightfall, they're 10:02:58.760 --> 10:02:59.760 both dead. 10:02:59.760 --> 10:03:05.480 And Aurora can look to claim another Roshan if even necessary, they might just run it 10:03:05.480 --> 10:03:06.480 down the lane. 10:03:06.480 --> 10:03:09.880 As they know, the Falcons, they do not have any buybacks. 10:03:11.140 --> 10:03:14.980 They can just clean it up in any way they want. They can go for the rush, they can go for the clean up. 10:03:14.980 --> 10:03:16.180 Maybe even just let the creeps do it. 10:03:16.580 --> 10:03:20.980 Probably like, eh, Killamar, actually is probably the most important one at this point, because they know this game's over. 10:03:20.980 --> 10:03:23.980 And they know that he's not feeling great about the game. 10:03:24.980 --> 10:03:26.180 McCall's there. 10:03:26.180 --> 10:03:32.480 They'll get the Team White. Amar will buy back immediately, but they have had enough. Gigi is called. 10:03:32.480 --> 10:03:39.260 DERROR! I'm coming in with two pretty hot stomps here. This one, at least a little slower than stomping at the start. 10:03:39.260 --> 10:03:42.140 We have four back to our very quick stomps for the last years of this one. 10:03:42.140 --> 10:03:51.240 This one went a bit more, 43 minutes, but still a game where it was hard to really find any way that Falcons were ever going to turn this around. 10:03:51.240 --> 10:03:55.440 Every single time they were using the ult, it didn't matter, they were so far behind. 10:03:55.440 --> 10:03:59.760 And they weren't getting an advantage early with the death profit. You want to be able to get the tempo gun, right? 10:03:59.760 --> 10:04:05.160 get these early towers. I think the very first three exorcisms got them, what, one tower? 10:04:05.160 --> 10:04:09.000 They had to keep running away. They had to group up as five to go for the push too. It 10:04:09.000 --> 10:04:12.320 wasn't even just a death profit pushing by himself. It was like four heroes behind him 10:04:12.320 --> 10:04:15.720 and they're just farming in this nightfall, Ursa. We had worries that it was going to 10:04:15.720 --> 10:04:20.160 be absolutely ridiculous and snowball out of control versus this five versus this life 10:04:20.160 --> 10:04:25.760 stealer. Yeah, that happened. And not just him. WS as well on the axe went literal, super 10:04:25.760 --> 10:04:31.520 same mode. Yeah, just all in all phenomenal plays from Aurora today looking at... I can't 10:04:31.520 --> 10:04:36.120 wait, can't wait to see what they do tomorrow. Oh yeah. You know top stuff from them just 10:04:36.120 --> 10:04:42.840 completely dismantling Falcons and just breaking them. Like Falcons did not look to stand anywhere 10:04:42.840 --> 10:04:47.880 close to a Charger. Charging the majority of these games. This is as one sided as it 10:04:47.880 --> 10:04:55.720 gets. Aurora, they take the series 2-0. Absolutely well played by Aurora Jenkins. You never 10:04:55.720 --> 10:05:02.680 doubt that this lost pig for the axe for WS. It worked out so well. This guy is so good at axe. 10:05:02.680 --> 10:05:07.320 I feel like some dudes, when they pick this hero, they have a higher damage threshold on the Culling 10:05:07.320 --> 10:05:13.480 Blade than other heroes. Yeah, obviously it's just Aurora pairing their heroes together really well 10:05:13.480 --> 10:05:18.120 and trusting each other, you know, trusting the dunks. Like there was that one rotation to the 10:05:18.120 --> 10:05:25.160 bot lane, WS hits the dunk on a very important kill because Sapphire TP's in, uses the Q. 10:05:25.160 --> 10:05:28.760 Like that was really, really nice. Pretty much every single fight was dictated by some like 10:05:29.480 --> 10:05:35.720 big axe call followed up by, you know, a fiend's grip. Later in the fight, Lakota popped off as well 10:05:35.720 --> 10:05:42.120 on this mid-snap as a silver tier snap fighter. I mean, Aurora just owned these five lanes again 10:05:42.120 --> 10:05:47.640 in game two. Like, you get this Ursa playing free in the top lane, and then in this bot lane, 10:05:47.640 --> 10:05:52.200 you're bringing the action to an axe and then coming out with a disadvantage. Like, if your 10:05:52.200 --> 10:05:56.280 your death profit and your life still are getting dumped in this game, like you have 10:05:56.280 --> 10:06:01.040 those 30 seconds, you're going to have this axe running around the map rampantly and this 10:06:01.040 --> 10:06:07.440 earth's running around the map rampantly and like you're playing versus ravage and exorcism, 10:06:07.440 --> 10:06:11.680 these are incredibly long cooldown spells versus an axe and earth's better top networks, 10:06:11.680 --> 10:06:17.000 that's a tough one, Kazoo. Falcons had, they were, like to me it's like I watched a bit 10:06:17.000 --> 10:06:20.600 of a different team in this game, like even some of the moves they were making were like 10:06:20.600 --> 10:06:23.560 little sauce and I think like the way they were picking heroes running into 10:06:23.560 --> 10:06:27.280 like the 18 nightfall Ursa which if you've watched competitive dota 2 you 10:06:27.280 --> 10:06:31.040 know that this guy will play 18 Ursa and he will destroy you. So I think also 10:06:31.040 --> 10:06:34.440 overall at some of the moves they made you talked about like the bottom move 10:06:34.440 --> 10:06:37.680 Jenkins where they get like the dunk like they push this bottom tier 1 tower 10:06:37.680 --> 10:06:42.480 and they're not the team that usually like that make moves like this where it's 10:06:42.480 --> 10:06:46.240 so easy to counter play and it's like so obvious like in terms of what's gonna 10:06:46.240 --> 10:06:50.320 happen like they don't kill the tower so then they linger too long it is a very 10:06:50.320 --> 10:06:55.280 great play by Aurora. You could see them ping the ground be like yo TP here we're gonna get this kill. 10:06:55.280 --> 10:06:59.680 And I think that also this secondary kill they get here too and understanding that 10:07:00.800 --> 10:07:05.360 I'm pretty sure it's like near perfect. So like doing that is very high skill but then even later 10:07:05.360 --> 10:07:09.680 they go to the top tower and like they're kind of posh ring to take it but they don't really 10:07:09.680 --> 10:07:13.680 commit and then even though other heroes are there they don't it's I don't know I was a little 10:07:13.680 --> 10:07:18.080 disappointed in this game. Yeah I think it's one of those things where they had a specific idea 10:07:18.080 --> 10:07:21.680 with what they wanted to do with the death prophet because they know the airs is coming. 10:07:21.680 --> 10:07:25.920 They take this DP. It does well versus not mid actually, solo kills does not fire. 10:07:25.920 --> 10:07:30.720 And you'd think that their initial idea was to kick airs that are very early on out of top lane, 10:07:30.720 --> 10:07:35.600 go there, take the tower, make it so that Tide has more space to farm. But that didn't happen. 10:07:35.600 --> 10:07:39.680 It felt like they needed to fix the issue of the axe snowballing in that bot lane, 10:07:39.680 --> 10:07:46.560 so he ends up going bot on the death prophet and it all compounds into a further disaster for felicans. 10:07:46.560 --> 10:07:48.560 Did we ever work out why the ballot faces void? 10:07:49.200 --> 10:07:53.440 No, I mean, they must have been scared and I can tell you that it's not the right choice. 10:07:53.440 --> 10:07:58.160 I would like to ask whoever we may interview about this because it's, it is very strange. 10:07:58.160 --> 10:07:59.120 Like, I just don't know. 10:07:59.120 --> 10:08:00.960 I mean, hindsight, obviously, it's easy to talk about it. 10:08:00.960 --> 10:08:05.280 Maybe that wasn't planned and, you know, maybe they were thinking the case would come out or really 10:08:05.280 --> 10:08:09.680 we were planning on picking up the case and then they picked up, they weren't expecting the Phoenix 10:08:09.680 --> 10:08:10.720 Bane or something like that. 10:08:10.720 --> 10:08:11.280 I mean, or Phoenix Bane. 10:08:11.280 --> 10:08:11.840 Good picture. 10:08:11.840 --> 10:08:16.160 But at the same time, like for Ror, I'm always very impressed with their offline dueling. 10:08:16.160 --> 10:08:18.560 Hold. You know who I'm really impressed by? 10:08:19.840 --> 10:08:20.360 The Midlaner? 10:08:20.360 --> 10:08:21.200 The Midlaner! 10:08:21.200 --> 10:08:22.200 Woo! 10:08:22.200 --> 10:08:24.040 Uh, I don't know why I went around this way. 10:08:24.040 --> 10:08:26.640 Hello, M-God. How are you doing after that series? 10:08:26.640 --> 10:08:28.280 What a friggin' stomp that was. 10:08:29.400 --> 10:08:30.400 Hello. 10:08:31.400 --> 10:08:32.400 What's up to... 10:08:33.320 --> 10:08:34.840 What power level do you think... 10:08:36.120 --> 10:08:37.120 Sorry, go ahead. 10:08:38.640 --> 10:08:40.320 No, no, you can't think, you can't think. 10:08:40.320 --> 10:08:42.640 What power level do you guys think you're at right now? 10:08:42.640 --> 10:08:45.120 Because, like, to me, this looked like Prime Aurora. 10:08:45.120 --> 10:08:47.120 Like you guys are all popping off 10:08:48.840 --> 10:08:50.840 I feel like I'm just getting carried 10:08:52.440 --> 10:08:58.360 I feel like we just like have better understanding what the draft like right now 10:08:58.360 --> 10:09:03.000 I feel like we can't know what's coming so we cannot be prepared for it 10:09:04.440 --> 10:09:07.720 Is that what the snapfire was about did you did you think that like 10:09:08.360 --> 10:09:10.360 The snapfire was good against 10:09:10.960 --> 10:09:13.920 The mid matchups that you'd be playing against or something like that. I 10:09:13.920 --> 10:09:23.920 I mean, before the tournament, I feel like I haven't played this hero at all, and I don't know, I feel like we're just trying to copy other team, 10:09:23.920 --> 10:09:32.920 because Sapphire was kind of contested, like every team that can play Snap Meet as always has a better favor, 10:09:32.920 --> 10:09:41.920 so I think we just kind of think about this hero, and we just assume that this hero has less contours in it, 10:09:41.920 --> 10:09:44.920 And then it's pretty good early early tempo also 10:09:45.560 --> 10:09:49.680 How many games of it did you play in pubs because I noticed you're silver tier 10:09:49.680 --> 10:09:52.080 I know there's some heroes you have to play like a hundred games with 10:09:52.400 --> 10:09:55.640 But it doesn't seem like snap you need that many at least for you personally 10:09:56.440 --> 10:09:57.800 yeah, actually 10:09:57.800 --> 10:09:59.320 maybe 10:09:59.320 --> 10:10:05.400 Up until now. I only like playing sapphire like two or three game in like the past 10:10:06.360 --> 10:10:11.440 One year so I'm not I'm not really sure when I play this hero 10:10:11.920 --> 10:10:13.920 It's not really proper 10:10:14.160 --> 10:10:19.080 What what is it specifically that you think makes snapfire so overpowered right now? 10:10:19.080 --> 10:10:22.600 I know you're very tired, so you're gonna definitely just go to sleep 10:10:22.600 --> 10:10:28.840 This is what happens when someone plays a series like that and just so it's so quick you crash out, you know 10:10:29.640 --> 10:10:31.640 Is he gone are we getting them back? 10:10:32.800 --> 10:10:38.520 He's gone. Okay, just crashing out. Thank you Makoto for that. We really appreciate you taking your time 10:10:38.520 --> 10:10:39.520 time. 10:10:39.520 --> 10:10:40.520 It makes sense. 10:10:40.520 --> 10:10:45.520 You know, he didn't play all three games of this series, so he also doesn't want to 10:10:45.520 --> 10:10:46.520 answer all the questions. 10:10:46.520 --> 10:10:47.520 That's right. 10:10:47.520 --> 10:10:48.520 We shortened the interview. 10:10:48.520 --> 10:10:49.520 He's back! 10:10:49.520 --> 10:10:50.520 Well, he's back! 10:10:50.520 --> 10:10:51.520 He's back, okay. 10:10:51.520 --> 10:10:52.520 All right. 10:10:52.520 --> 10:10:54.520 I don't know if you saw what just happened there. 10:10:54.520 --> 10:10:56.520 It looked like you just mega crashed out on stream, bro. 10:10:56.520 --> 10:10:58.520 You just closed your eyes and went to sleep. 10:10:58.520 --> 10:11:01.520 Can I get you to repeat the question again? 10:11:01.520 --> 10:11:02.520 I'll repeat. 10:11:02.520 --> 10:11:06.720 I don't remember what my question was, but I wanted to ask you something, because to 10:11:06.720 --> 10:11:12.000 All of us here on the wonderful panel, you are one of the most skilled mid laners in Dota. 10:11:12.000 --> 10:11:25.480 So I want to ask you about this idea that side laners suck ass at laning, and mid laners are just way better at laning in terms of like the individual little mechanics, you know, dragging the creeps here, making you take damage for CS there, like, do you agree with that? 10:11:25.480 --> 10:11:27.720 Mid laners are just better laners than side laners? 10:11:27.720 --> 10:11:37.640 I kinda agree about it. I feel like, I mean it just seems like when you trying to, I mean 10:11:37.640 --> 10:11:43.280 mid laner has like better practice, because you kinda like 1v1 against people and then 10:11:43.280 --> 10:11:49.080 like it makes, you're kinda like dependent on your skill so I kinda can agree about it 10:11:49.080 --> 10:11:56.440 but I mean sometimes mid laner has to like kinda play bad inside lane. I don't know. 10:11:56.440 --> 10:12:00.040 Okay, make sense. Thank you. I got some questions from K-Dog over here for you. 10:12:00.040 --> 10:12:04.040 Hey Mikoto, I'm a big fan of your mid lane but I need to ask you a real question. 10:12:04.040 --> 10:12:07.040 You died on B1 mid as DP to snap. What happened? 10:12:07.040 --> 10:12:19.040 I missed my cookie and it let us to be like that. I played puttaly like second game in the lane. 10:12:19.040 --> 10:12:23.640 It happens, it happens. You know a few more snap far against and you'll fix it, ain't no problem. 10:12:23.640 --> 10:12:29.720 So I got a different question because in the recent patch, you know not long ago the second Siege creep spawns at minute 30 10:12:29.720 --> 10:12:34.280 I have a clip that I would like you to see because when you guys go to the tier 2 top tower 10:12:34.280 --> 10:12:36.480 I hate how you use Roche banner 10:12:36.480 --> 10:12:39.520 I think in this patch you can correct me if I'm wrong after 10:12:39.720 --> 10:12:46.740 You can always use the double Siege wave and then go to the tier 3 and drop the banner so that the sieges will never take any damage 10:12:46.880 --> 10:12:50.400 Can you tell me anything about that? Am I stupid? What do you think? 10:12:50.400 --> 10:12:57.400 Actually, I don't even know that we put the banner, it's still there too. 10:12:57.400 --> 10:13:04.400 I mean, maybe just being cowered, he just angry that no one is hitting the tower, so he just put it. 10:13:04.400 --> 10:13:08.400 Okay, so he got mad, he's like, my stupid cores aren't hitting it, the banner will do the job. 10:13:08.400 --> 10:13:09.400 Alright, tell Kory. 10:13:09.400 --> 10:13:14.400 My fucking core keeps hitting jungle and he just messes it up. 10:13:14.400 --> 10:13:15.400 It's classic, it happens. 10:13:15.400 --> 10:13:18.400 In the future, tell Kory or whoever, try this play. 10:13:18.400 --> 10:13:19.400 Could be good. 10:13:19.400 --> 10:13:23.400 question so KP obviously he's your coach we've interviewed him and talks 10:13:23.400 --> 10:13:27.320 about you know you guys this you guys that but I want to hear from you what 10:13:27.320 --> 10:13:35.880 do you feel like is the main thing that he brings to the team I mean I always 10:13:35.880 --> 10:13:42.360 know like KP is such a good coach like I said back then when I play with him like 10:13:42.360 --> 10:13:48.040 as a player I feel like he kind of have a kind of good understanding but the game 10:13:48.040 --> 10:13:53.560 And then also, like, he... I like... also, like, his personality was, like, chill. 10:13:53.560 --> 10:13:58.760 I feel like he can make us, like, more receptive. 10:13:58.760 --> 10:14:06.760 Like, I feel like we kind of... I mean, our personality was kind of different, like, five of the player. 10:14:06.760 --> 10:14:10.360 I feel like, and then, like, KT is kind of adjusting to this. So, yeah. 10:14:10.360 --> 10:14:12.760 That's amazing. Thank you so much for answering. 10:14:12.760 --> 10:14:16.920 That's a great answer. I got one final question for you. This one's from the whole panel. 10:14:16.920 --> 10:14:27.800 But personally, I'm my greatest fear. I'm afraid of worms, uh, because of the slime, and we're just wondering what Makoto is your greatest fear? What are you afraid of? 10:14:28.360 --> 10:14:29.640 What is it you are afraid of? 10:14:31.000 --> 10:14:31.640 Afraid of? 10:14:31.640 --> 10:14:33.640 Yeah, like spiders, pheromones. 10:14:36.040 --> 10:14:36.920 Uh... 10:14:37.800 --> 10:14:38.600 Lion, I don't know. 10:14:38.840 --> 10:14:39.480 A lion. 10:14:39.800 --> 10:14:41.800 Any...anything that can kill me. 10:14:41.800 --> 10:14:47.660 So if I took you on like a safari and we're out in the wild you see lions and elephants and shit everywhere 10:14:47.660 --> 10:14:49.660 You're like crapping your pants. No, I mean like 10:14:50.180 --> 10:14:53.280 In the safari, obviously not. In the Javel? 10:14:53.280 --> 10:14:57.140 It's like I'm in a bear or like a lion. I will just you know, you fuck. 10:14:57.260 --> 10:15:02.540 So you know you wouldn't want to be alone in the woods with like a wild animal is what would be your greatest fear? 10:15:02.540 --> 10:15:04.540 Yeah, most fear or not? 10:15:04.660 --> 10:15:08.380 That makes a lot of sense. I think that's a good survival instinct. That's helped you a lot in the mid-length 10:15:08.380 --> 10:15:11.160 Thank you so much for this surviving this interview. We appreciate it 10:15:11.160 --> 10:15:13.160 Well, hopefully we'll see you here again 10:15:15.960 --> 10:15:20.840 That's pretty reasonable. I think that's a that's a very reasonable fear to have yeah 10:15:21.800 --> 10:15:26.520 You know wild animals and if you're walking around the jungle it happens to be out there 10:15:26.520 --> 10:15:32.480 It's where he says bear considering how good nightfall is that Ursa and you're a lion and he just played lone druid 10:15:32.480 --> 10:15:37.120 Yeah, that's probably why I think so. That's probably I feel like this is infected 10:15:37.120 --> 10:15:41.760 into his brain it could be that was not his right is I'll ask him again next 10:15:41.760 --> 10:15:45.640 so tell the mind that's that's just what happened but Aurora is now part of the 10:15:45.640 --> 10:15:51.160 top three here at dreamlike season 29 we can take a look at the brackets because 10:15:51.160 --> 10:15:56.960 only three teams survived lower brackets be pretty brutal isn't it Effie it has 10:15:56.960 --> 10:16:02.560 but Aurora have really cemented how good they are in their journey through 10:16:02.560 --> 10:16:06.400 this bracket because some people were saying teams I don't want to call out 10:16:06.400 --> 10:16:11.180 But there's an add an easier journey. They played, you know, they played less difficult teams 10:16:11.180 --> 10:16:17.080 But who said that? How about that? They called them out. But did Avery really say that? Avery Silverman. No, it was not Avery. 10:16:17.080 --> 10:16:22.740 Quinn Callahan. But those those it was fair to say because like some of the teams are played against or the two 10:16:22.740 --> 10:16:25.960 Lowe's they got were like, you know, gamer, legion, acero, like, etc. 10:16:26.440 --> 10:16:34.600 But they have improved so much and they're looking like this terrifying force teams in this lower bracket. And Aurora has, you know, 10:16:34.600 --> 10:16:39.440 got revenge because Falcon did beat them in the group stage Aurora came forth in 10:16:39.440 --> 10:16:43.400 the group stage or something there their record was four and three Falcons 7-0 10:16:43.400 --> 10:16:47.480 they were the only undefeated team and they made it through and they made it 10:16:47.480 --> 10:16:52.360 through to the top three where we can see now also in the upper bracket this 10:16:52.360 --> 10:16:57.640 afternoon we had ParaVision and Spirit going head-to-head and that was a three 10:16:57.640 --> 10:17:03.160 game a relatively short one for Dream League season 29 standards but ParaVision 10:17:03.160 --> 10:17:07.800 did prevail, they're in the best of five, they're in the grand finals and Team Spirit 10:17:07.800 --> 10:17:11.280 and Aurora will have to duke it out, see who joins them there tomorrow, because we have 10:17:11.280 --> 10:17:12.280 any pictures of them. 10:17:12.280 --> 10:17:15.320 What is the, sorry, a very important point to make here, I was erasing my finger, which 10:17:15.320 --> 10:17:16.320 means I want to speak. 10:17:16.320 --> 10:17:17.320 To speak? 10:17:17.320 --> 10:17:18.320 Yeah. 10:17:18.320 --> 10:17:21.080 What is the common thread between the three teams remaining in the tournament? 10:17:21.080 --> 10:17:23.400 Because there's a very important common thread here. 10:17:23.400 --> 10:17:24.400 Shiver? 10:17:24.400 --> 10:17:25.400 Region? 10:17:25.400 --> 10:17:28.640 I thought it was Group A and B, but Paravision was Group B. 10:17:28.640 --> 10:17:29.640 Yeah, so you're- 10:17:29.640 --> 10:17:30.880 Wrong, wrong, wrong. 10:17:30.880 --> 10:17:36.420 They all are bootcamping in Belgrade, Serbia, shoutouts to Serbia, everyone, they're all 10:17:36.420 --> 10:17:38.660 drinking the coffee from cafeteria brand. 10:17:38.660 --> 10:17:40.220 No, we're not sponsored. 10:17:40.220 --> 10:17:41.380 It's a great, fantastic brand. 10:17:41.380 --> 10:17:42.380 We're not sponsored. 10:17:42.380 --> 10:17:47.540 Why don't you choose a Swedish brand that might be at some point sponsoring? 10:17:47.540 --> 10:17:51.540 I don't want to say that the coffee in the studio is bad, because it's not the same. 10:17:51.540 --> 10:17:54.900 Oh, they played the clip when you're giving them the opportunity to play the shit about 10:17:54.900 --> 10:17:55.900 Gothenburg. 10:17:55.900 --> 10:17:58.220 Yeah, but Gothenburg is the most queer in the stockhold right now. 10:17:58.220 --> 10:18:00.380 Is there not a stockhold clip? 10:18:00.380 --> 10:18:04.600 They didn't you say that they all play relic arena, and that's why they're in the top three. Yeah, cuz that's not true 10:18:06.100 --> 10:18:10.100 Worst the bottom here is there. Can you take it and throw it? 10:18:10.620 --> 10:18:16.340 Are we allowed to do that? I haven't seen any any biscuits text because it's the whole time 10:18:16.340 --> 10:18:21.100 That's just that's what stands in the box. It's Texas Swedish brand. Yes, okay? Everyone shout outs the Kex 10:18:22.020 --> 10:18:28.060 Fantastic treat. We love the chocolate in its savory and sweet and please 10:18:28.060 --> 10:18:36.500 eat cats. You know what, right? I'm cats. Oh, don't. Oh, you can't say that. You can't 10:18:36.500 --> 10:18:44.180 say that. Checks. Oh, Checks. Yeah, that's right. That's what we were thinking. You 10:18:44.180 --> 10:18:49.900 can't say that. These were our predictions today. There you go. Wow. Loads of people 10:18:49.900 --> 10:18:55.620 getting it right. Loads of people getting it wrong. And we can see what that does to 10:18:55.620 --> 10:18:57.620 You are Lina board! 10:18:58.820 --> 10:19:00.500 Ooh, Lacoste, I'm coming for you! 10:19:00.500 --> 10:19:02.740 Lacoste and Kazoo now in the top! 10:19:02.740 --> 10:19:04.980 Lacoste has been going very strong there. 10:19:04.980 --> 10:19:07.700 This guy's good. This is why we call him the best analyst. 10:19:07.700 --> 10:19:09.940 He's got the coin as well, and he's on the top of the board. 10:19:09.940 --> 10:19:14.020 Jenkins, I think your 12 mostly comes from you having to go for Aurora every time. 10:19:14.020 --> 10:19:15.460 They're saboteurs for you. 10:19:15.460 --> 10:19:16.580 Yeah, they've ruined you. 10:19:16.580 --> 10:19:18.340 I mean, I don't know what I'm doing in the first place. 10:19:18.340 --> 10:19:21.700 No, but imagine if you didn't have to go for Aurora every time. 10:19:21.700 --> 10:19:28.340 I would definitely be lost maxing better than tsunami who just wakes up on evening crew and copies my pics except for aurora 10:19:28.840 --> 10:19:32.240 That's what he's been doing. I caught him. I even in the bathroom 10:19:32.240 --> 10:19:36.780 He didn't lock the door which is weird that he does just goes in doesn't lock the door takes a dump 10:19:36.780 --> 10:19:40.500 And I walked in and he was putting on the Google sheets 10:19:40.900 --> 10:19:44.740 Which looking at mine. Yeah, you saw him looking I saw him 10:19:44.740 --> 10:19:46.360 on his iPad. 10:19:46.360 --> 10:19:48.360 Miura, please take over and say something. 10:19:48.360 --> 10:19:50.160 I'm really excited for tomorrow. 10:19:50.160 --> 10:19:53.160 Unironically, the Dota has been really good. 10:19:53.160 --> 10:19:55.360 Today was really stumpy, and when there are stumpy games 10:19:55.360 --> 10:19:58.160 with teams that have played really good Dota this tournament, 10:19:58.160 --> 10:20:00.360 that means there's a lot to fix in one day. 10:20:00.360 --> 10:20:03.360 And it's just a matter of adjusting the draft. 10:20:03.360 --> 10:20:06.160 So we could have some ridiculous Dota tomorrow. 10:20:06.160 --> 10:20:09.660 We hopefully will have some ridiculous Dota tomorrow. 10:20:09.660 --> 10:20:13.160 Well, we also will have potentially with these teams, 10:20:13.160 --> 10:20:19.400 if these games are anything to go of is ridiculous dota down the line because of course this 10:20:19.400 --> 10:20:26.600 dream league is the final stop of the ept and all the points that are getting handed out this weekend 10:20:27.480 --> 10:20:34.200 they don't matter that much anymore yesterday was the decision maker of our final slot we now see 10:20:34.200 --> 10:20:40.360 playtime there they are 11th they're doing really well for themselves getting that direct invite 10:20:40.360 --> 10:20:46.960 Novi and Gamer Legion sadly in this top 16 they will be the ones having to go through qualifiers will be very spicy 10:20:47.680 --> 10:20:51.380 But the list is looking kind of stacked here 10:20:51.400 --> 10:20:58.760 It is and the team that does well in this tournament is going to have the target on their back 10:20:58.760 --> 10:21:04.040 But also this is the time to hit peak form. Yeah, so a team like pair vision 10:21:04.040 --> 10:21:07.400 That's even I mean all three of our top teams actually. They're all incredible 10:21:07.400 --> 10:21:14.120 I feel like they also did not have the best season, like they were on and off decent, top tier of course, 10:21:14.120 --> 10:21:18.880 but never necessarily like tournament winning caliber, and now they are all peaking at the right time. 10:21:18.880 --> 10:21:21.840 That's scary, that's scary for these teams out here. 10:21:21.840 --> 10:21:27.240 I think Pahri showed that today, like there's a lot of like even they lost game one, then they adjusted like their game two and three, 10:21:27.240 --> 10:21:33.800 they're showing us different things, this is to me the strongest that I've ever seen this team play, like out of all the iterations that they had. 10:21:33.800 --> 10:21:38.600 Of course they've shown other good things too, but I think Nautis is like slotting in very well. 10:21:38.600 --> 10:21:43.800 I think he's saying now Poppy has had enough time to gel with the people, see what's up, what is good for us. 10:21:43.800 --> 10:21:45.100 So I've got high hopes for this team. 10:21:45.100 --> 10:21:55.200 I think that we are going to have a new champion in this season because all three teams have not gotten a single first place this entire season. 10:21:55.200 --> 10:22:01.800 And before that it was like Pet Boom, Tundra, Yandex basically, and a couple of Falcons there started the season as well. 10:22:01.800 --> 10:22:03.200 But this is going to be a new one, I think. 10:22:03.200 --> 10:22:05.600 That's pretty exciting actually, I didn't even realize. 10:22:05.600 --> 10:22:10.640 Their first, first place of the season, that's a really good confidence boost. 10:22:10.640 --> 10:22:16.400 Going into the latest part of the Dota season, like got EWC coming up, TI eventually. 10:22:16.400 --> 10:22:17.280 The big ones, yes. 10:22:17.280 --> 10:22:21.920 And oftentimes the teams that are winning around now, the first place teams end up winning everything. 10:22:21.920 --> 10:22:27.920 That's true. And sometimes even the last tournament before all those, that's the one that jinxed it, 10:22:27.920 --> 10:22:30.240 and this is not the last one because there's another tournament after this. 10:22:30.240 --> 10:22:34.440 So you want to win this and then not win the next because then you don't have a target on your back for 10:22:35.040 --> 10:22:36.240 EWC and Tiana, you know. 10:22:36.240 --> 10:22:38.240 Stratz. Stratz. You still got a... 10:22:38.240 --> 10:22:40.240 You've got to get the win here. 10:22:40.240 --> 10:22:44.240 Tomorrow. We can take a look at how the schedule looks tomorrow, although I think you should be aware. 10:22:44.240 --> 10:22:46.240 Already, two series, three teams. 10:22:46.240 --> 10:22:49.240 Keep note, we're starting an hour later tomorrow. 10:22:49.240 --> 10:22:53.240 Team Spirit and Aurora will be our first best of three in an hour after that. 10:22:53.240 --> 10:22:55.240 Or 4 p.m. depending on how it goes. 10:22:55.240 --> 10:22:58.240 We will have Fairvision up against the winner. 10:22:58.240 --> 10:23:00.040 This is the first time you've seen the Largo TVs. 10:23:00.040 --> 10:23:01.400 Uh, no, it's just... 10:23:01.400 --> 10:23:02.720 It's just... It's progressed. 10:23:02.720 --> 10:23:05.360 You know what's a bit... What's frustrating for me? 10:23:05.360 --> 10:23:08.000 Look at the TVs they have on their bellies. 10:23:08.640 --> 10:23:09.080 That there's... 10:23:09.080 --> 10:23:10.560 Sometimes they're hollies! 10:23:10.560 --> 10:23:10.760 Yeah. 10:23:10.760 --> 10:23:11.520 Sometimes they're hollies! 10:23:11.520 --> 10:23:12.480 Oh my God, humor! 10:23:12.480 --> 10:23:15.200 This is what... This is what AI has come to. 10:23:15.200 --> 10:23:15.640 Everyone's... 10:23:15.640 --> 10:23:16.440 I want one! 10:23:16.440 --> 10:23:18.080 Where's the flying cars? 10:23:18.080 --> 10:23:18.920 Put me back! 10:23:19.760 --> 10:23:21.960 No, no, I don't want Lala. I want Poe. 10:23:22.960 --> 10:23:25.000 Everyone said, oh, in the future, 10:23:25.000 --> 10:23:26.400 you're gonna have cars that fly. 10:23:26.400 --> 10:23:27.320 You're gonna go to Mars. 10:23:27.320 --> 10:23:29.320 Isn't this shit we get? 10:23:30.160 --> 10:23:34.240 Look at what is possible. Yeah, everything is possible if you believe true 10:23:35.560 --> 10:23:40.840 They burned down an Amazon rainforest to put that tell-it-all to be on your face. She ever hope you feel good about yourself 10:23:42.040 --> 10:23:44.040 Yeah, she ever 10:23:44.280 --> 10:23:46.280 The rise with my Jenkins 10:23:48.520 --> 10:23:50.520 Are you able to keep a straight face? 10:23:50.520 --> 10:23:56.680 I can't think of anything other than what cool Jenkins to me the rhyme like you say you can't say that you can't say that 10:23:56.680 --> 10:24:03.600 But what was the other right? Which run pecks? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't show your like Arnold you can't show your pecks 10:24:04.640 --> 10:24:05.680 checks 10:24:05.680 --> 10:24:07.040 checks 10:24:07.040 --> 10:24:09.040 latex 10:24:11.880 --> 10:24:15.160 Next because two spirit are coming for everyone's next tomorrow 10:24:16.600 --> 10:24:19.440 That's actually height. Yeah, two spirit 10:24:19.440 --> 10:24:22.080 But I am rooting for you even though- 10:24:22.080 --> 10:24:23.680 There's still top three, stop this! 10:24:23.680 --> 10:24:25.200 She's rooting for top one! 10:24:25.200 --> 10:24:27.760 She's a little disappointed that she lost the point to them this time. 10:24:27.760 --> 10:24:28.880 He's not like my dad, that's- 10:24:28.880 --> 10:24:31.040 Actually, I said it last night that I think Paravisional will win, 10:24:31.040 --> 10:24:33.920 but you'll never catch me not putting spirit in my predictions. 10:24:33.920 --> 10:24:36.240 Like when I told my dad that I'm going into- 10:24:36.240 --> 10:24:39.760 I'm going into play video games for my living, he was like, 10:24:39.760 --> 10:24:41.040 oh that's nice, son. 10:24:41.040 --> 10:24:42.560 That's nice for you, kiddo. 10:24:42.560 --> 10:24:45.440 And it didn't sound good. 10:24:45.440 --> 10:24:47.600 It didn't sound like he wanted me to do that. 10:24:47.600 --> 10:24:48.400 Probably not. 10:24:48.400 --> 10:24:50.640 Look where I'm at now that he's very supportive, actually. 10:24:50.640 --> 10:24:53.520 I'm just making a shout out to Paul Jenkins. 10:24:53.520 --> 10:24:54.840 Paul Jenkins, this is for you. 10:24:54.840 --> 10:24:58.080 Big P.J. 1556, this is his footer. 10:24:58.080 --> 10:25:00.320 Largoba Show X5. 10:25:00.320 --> 10:25:02.640 That's the thing we should be getting ready for. 10:25:02.640 --> 10:25:03.760 I want to see that. 10:25:03.760 --> 10:25:04.720 Well, you can. 10:25:04.720 --> 10:25:06.800 Ladies and gentlemen, this is the end of the show, 10:25:06.800 --> 10:25:10.880 or the start of Largoba, the show, X5. 10:27:40.880 --> 10:27:55.640 Deep within the dark recesses of the Lord Rally, the Lore Keeper endlessly catalogs the 10:27:55.640 --> 10:28:01.160 myths and legends of the don't-it-you universe, until he's rudely interrupted. 10:28:01.160 --> 10:28:10.680 Now, here is Tails, prepare for another episode of Tails from the Lore Keeper, episode 588 10:28:10.680 --> 10:28:15.320 Major Whip, Part 2, delivered to you from DHL. 10:29:15.320 --> 10:29:23.320 I'm gonna tell you right now that there's no way that I should be searching for the meaning that I'm gonna get. 10:29:23.320 --> 10:29:25.320 I 10:30:53.320 --> 10:30:55.320 I'm burning up the life 10:30:55.320 --> 10:30:55.820 Go! 10:30:59.820 --> 10:31:00.320 Go! 10:31:05.820 --> 10:31:07.820 I'm gonna tell you right now 10:31:07.820 --> 10:31:09.820 That there's no way past it 10:31:09.820 --> 10:31:11.320 You said you got the need 10:31:11.320 --> 10:31:13.820 And think I'm gonna let you have it 10:31:13.820 --> 10:31:15.820 We're not the same breed 10:31:15.820 --> 10:31:17.820 I don't know what you mean 10:31:17.820 --> 10:31:19.820 I'm taking everything back 10:31:19.820 --> 10:31:21.820 That you've been taking for me 10:31:23.320 --> 10:31:28.320 I'll take you back to the back of your mind 10:31:28.320 --> 10:31:33.320 Never miss a thing, ready for the fight 10:31:33.320 --> 10:31:37.320 I'm the one you see, turning on the light 10:31:37.320 --> 10:31:41.320 Take away everything you've got right now 10:31:41.320 --> 10:31:46.320 Take away everything you've got right now 10:31:46.320 --> 10:32:12.320 I'm going to tell you right now that there's no way past it, that you set you under me, 10:32:12.320 --> 10:32:14.320 You said you wanted me 10:32:14.320 --> 10:32:16.320 Said I'm gonna let you have it 10:32:16.320 --> 10:32:18.320 Why not the same breed? 10:32:18.320 --> 10:32:20.320 I don't know why you need 10:32:20.320 --> 10:32:22.320 I'm taking everything back 10:32:22.320 --> 10:32:24.320 But you take it from me 10:32:28.320 --> 10:32:30.320 I'm taking everything back 10:32:30.320 --> 10:32:32.320 But you take it from me 10:32:32.320 --> 10:32:34.320 Never make a strain 10:32:34.320 --> 10:32:36.320 I'm gonna fight 10:32:36.320 --> 10:32:38.320 What's the one you say? 10:32:38.320 --> 10:32:40.320 Turn it on the lights 10:33:10.320 --> 10:33:26.320 This is like the perfect day to catch the sound and dance away 10:33:26.320 --> 10:33:36.320 On my first ride by my side, they're lighting up the darkest night 10:33:36.320 --> 10:33:41.320 Another thing, a favorite song 10:33:41.320 --> 10:33:46.320 Everybody's singing along 10:33:46.320 --> 10:33:51.320 The sunlight makes me smile 10:33:51.320 --> 10:33:56.320 My friends are drunk in the night 10:33:56.320 --> 10:34:01.320 No one will break us right 10:34:01.320 --> 10:34:06.320 It's a good time, a good time to the fight 10:34:07.320 --> 10:34:12.320 She keeps it through, alright, alright 10:34:12.320 --> 10:34:17.320 There's not too much more in life, more in their lives 10:34:17.320 --> 10:34:21.320 Underneath the bright and sunny sky 10:34:22.320 --> 10:34:26.320 Like you see it in your eyes 10:34:26.320 --> 10:34:31.320 The sunlight makes me smile 10:34:31.320 --> 10:34:36.320 My friends are dropping by 10:34:36.320 --> 10:34:41.320 No one will break my stride 10:34:41.320 --> 10:34:46.320 It's a good time, I'm feeling fine 10:34:46.320 --> 10:34:51.320 The sunlight makes me smile 10:34:51.320 --> 10:34:56.320 My friends are jumping high 10:34:56.320 --> 10:35:01.320 I'm on my way to break the stride 10:35:01.320 --> 10:35:04.320 It's just good times, good times 10:35:04.320 --> 10:35:07.320 Feeling alive, feeling fine 10:35:07.320 --> 10:35:11.320 I'm on my way to break the stride 10:35:11.320 --> 10:35:16.320 I'm on my way to break the stride 10:35:46.320 --> 10:35:59.320 And there were four lungs, been up down, I blame myself 10:35:59.320 --> 10:36:10.320 There's no doubt, if I come now, who knows why we fell 10:36:40.320 --> 10:36:43.320 Let's just go, no we don't need to cry 10:36:43.320 --> 10:36:47.320 And then, cause I feel the land 10:36:56.320 --> 10:36:58.320 Cause I feel the land 10:36:58.320 --> 10:37:22.640 The world of scenes, where we believe, the new ourselves, there's a cool breed, it's the 10:37:22.640 --> 10:37:24.640 I am clean