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The Headliner.
The first match of the Clan War is a one on one that begins on springtime and is the best
of three.
Each team captain will send their representative blindly.
Who will they send first?
Let's find out.
Welcome to the Altar of Champions, an 8 player Warcraft 3 Invitational tournament.
Today on the 15th May 2026 there is the Clan War.
We have the Headliner.
The first match of the Clan War is a one on one that begins on springtime and is a best
of three.
Each team captain will send their representative blindly.
Who will they send first?
Let's find out.
Welcome to the Altar of Champions, an 8 player Warcraft 3 Invitational tournament.
Today on the 15th May 2026, there is the Clan War.
We have 8 streamers that are divided into 2 teams of 4 players each.
They will work together to win as a team today.
They'll play up to 5 matches that are all best of 3.
To win, a team must score 3 victories.
On the left hand side, we have Team Alpha, captain by Tyler1.
He will be joined by Yamato Cannon, Simply and Mary Maybe.
On the right hand side, there is Team Omega, captain by Hera.
He joins forces with Pox, Maxim and Dante's.
The opening match is called the Headliner.
It is a one-on-one match that begins on springtime.
Each team captain will choose one player to send in, blindly and unaware of the other
team's choice.
Will the captain send themselves, send in their strongest, send a sacrifice or send a special
matchup assassin to take out an expected opponent?
Next up, team coordination will be put to the test.
The co-op battle is a 2 vs 2 match that begins on the map Synergy.
A team's two players spawn very closely together on this one.
The captain may not reuse their headliner player for the 2 vs 2.
Thirdly, we will have the ultimate test of team spirit and the management of order through
chaos.
In the 4v4 everyone plays.
It's a full on brawl of team vs team to score another point for a team.
All 4v4 maps will be played on Aragfor.
The fourth match is called the redemption match.
If the clan war isn't over with a 3-0 score already, there's going to be a redemption
match.
The player that hasn't featured yet in the headliner or co-op battle must be sent in
for a fourth point in this clan war.
This match will take place on Tidehunters.
In the exciting event of a 2-2 score, the ace match will decide it all.
The captains will likely send their best to decide it all in a final best of three, which
begins on autumn leaves. Each winning player of a team that won the clan war will win $500 for
themselves and the winning captain gets to pick their first one-on-one tournament bracket opponent
from the other team. The captain will then delegate second and third choice to whomever
he deems the most deserving player based on their clan war performance.
On Saturday the 16th and Sunday the 17th of May in 2026, the Alter of Champions 1-1 and
main tournament will be played at.
Our eight contestants are ready to go at it in 1-1.
The winning team from Friday's Clan War has their picks of who they want to face in the
brackets.
With the winning captain having first pick and then they delegate the second and third
pick to the most deserving players of their team.
That happened yesterday and soon I'll show you today's brackets.
matches are best of three with the upper bracket finals, the lower bracket finals and the grand
finals being the best of five. The grand finalist that comes from the upper bracket finals will
have an advantageous map selection system. $8,000 is up for grabs in this Alter of Champions
1-on-1 tournament, with the champion taking $3,500. The prize pool was sponsored by Blizzard
and this event was made possible by all of you guys, the eight participating streamers
and all the co-casters, moderators and everybody that helped.
I'm Grubby and this is the Outer of Champions, the 1-on-1 tournament.
Let's play!
The Headliner.
The first match of the Clan War is a 1-on-1 that begins on springtime and is the best of three.
Each team captain will send their representative blindly.
The Headliner.
The first match of the Clan War is a one-on-one that begins on springtime and is at best of three.
Each team captain will send their representative blindly.
Who will they send first? Let's find out!
On Saturday the 16th and Sunday the 17th of May in 2026,
the Alter of Champions one-on-one main tournament will be played out.
Our eight contestants are ready to go at it in one-on-one.
The winning team from Friday's Clan War has their picks of who they want to face in the brackets,
with the winning captain having first pick, and then they delegate the second and third pick to the most deserving players of their team.
That happened yesterday, and soon I'll show you today's brackets.
Most matches are best of three, with the upper bracket finals, the lower bracket finals, and the grand finals being the best of five.
The grand finalist that comes from the upper bracket finals will have an advantageous map selection system.
$8000 is up for grabs in this Alter of Champions 1-on-1 tournament, with the champion taking $3500.
The prize pool was sponsored by Blizzard, and this event was made possible by all of you guys,
the eight participating streamers, and all the co-casters, moderators, and everybody that helped.
I'm Grubby, and this is the Altar of Champions, the 1-on-1 tournament. Let's play!
Hello, and welcome everybody to the Altar of Champions Day Number 2.
It is the 1-on-1 tournament today, welcome everybody for tuning in.
And we got an amazing game coming up in the brackets
Now you may have noticed that my voice ain't quite there yet
This is the morning
In fact, my schedule app doesn't even go this early
These are the first words I say today almost
Welcome for the headliner, oh no it's not the headliner
Welcome for the bracket stage, let's go!
Let's go guys, it's 2 p.m. in the morning, yes
Yes, yes, yes, yes
Now, let me catch you up a little bit on what happened to me yesterday.
We finished the tournament at 11pm.
I couldn't sleep until 3.30am because of the adrenaline and the hype of the tournament,
man.
It was so good!
It was so much better than we could have expected.
Remember this thing right here?
Look at the score!
Isn't it neat?
Wouldn't you say that our dreams are complete?
Dante's and Mary may be in the headliner.
Tyler Yamato-Kannon winning the 2v2 in a 2-1 score.
The 4-on-4 were amazing.
And then last night, after the whole conward was done,
by the way, tuning into Yamato-Kannon's stream,
where he was getting blasted, absolutely blasted,
by his coach, Death Note, was amazing.
That was cinema.
The redemption battle between Hera and Simply was ruthless
and it was a nail-biter between Yamato Kanan and Hera.
Harry, you're a wizard.
That was insane coaching.
Some highlights from the coaching.
Some highlights from the coaching of Yamato Kanan
and Death Note.
Death Note said, even the game you won,
you only won because you got lucky
because the level is very low.
And the ones he lost were unacceptable.
He put Yamato Kannon to practice against 1800 MMR opponent to prepare for today and Yamato kept losing and Death Note kept criticizing his play until finally I think Yamato Kannon actually beat an 1800 MMR opponent which is by the way insane.
And then Death Note gave him the compliment of all times.
That was decent.
For you.
so good so good we love it we love it now he picked it himself i got a couple of clips prepared
we're going to be starting the show pretty soon between our opening match of harrah versus tyler
if you haven't seen yesterday's games you definitely should check it out on follow grubby
warcraft channel or in the vod you can dive into the vod but we're getting some curated videos as
as well. I got some clips from yesterday too that we can watch. Let me close these brackets
here. There. Clips. There. Highlights from yesterday.
Oh my god, I put it in the wrong...
I thought it was the same thing.
Is that a library?
No, it's a laboratory, Mary.
She put a tiny grey towel on the goblin laboratory.
By the way, yesterday I couldn't sleep until 3.30 am and then this morning I woke up at
8 am.
What the hell?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
And many people couldn't have taken it, Trussells.
Thank you, bro.
I woke up at 8 a.m., two and a half hours before my alarm.
It shows, yeah, I know.
And then I just woke up, I watched Knopf's Warcraft stream, and he was going over to
2 in the 4 before, it was so much fun.
And then finally by 10.30 I could sleep again, and I slept until 12.
So I had a strange night, but hopefully adrenaline will kick in.
There's an Argentina?
Wait, Argentina's in Canada?
What?
What the?
Wait, what?
Stop the geoguess or shit, bro.
What the fuck?
I need gold.
I have a lot of gold.
We have to spend the gold on the shop.
That's like the most...
Oh, shit.
I need gold.
We need gold, we need gold, we have a lot of gold.
We have to spend the gold on the shop, that's like the most important part.
He's not gonna give Dante any gold, Dante needs gold.
Expo, this archmage when you have a fly machine in the wood, very smart kappa moves.
If you're not seeing, not sure about it, because Expo knows, just send fly machine here.
I'm going to practice offline.
Actually my wife is like, no, stay on, stay on, don't try to stream.
Not only she's not holding me back, she's encouraging me.
Yeah, what do you want to say?
There's no count.
Wait, let me move the camera first.
Okay, she's going to say something.
I'm going to remove the camera.
It's ugly dark. Okay. You're good now. My wife wants to speak
Bro like why are you trying to hand him back to me? He's been busy. He's been busy. Okay. I don't have to my husband
What do you think I got married? Tell someone to talk to you if I did that I would want to have friends
I'm busy, call it ass
Quail his ass. All right, I'm queuing up. We need an orc chatter that settles it by the way.
Quail his ass.
Dude, I don't have a fucking keep.
That was fucking crazy.
Wait, what? Seriously, what can't he make without the castle?
He made two blacksmiths, yeah.
What can't he make? He can't make naïve.
So what goodness? That's why I stopped seeing them.
In my mind, it's like when I lose my necropolis, I'm screwed.
I'm like big screwed. Also, my camera's not working for some reason.
Yo, thank you guys. Thank you.
Honest with you guys, I think I did way too much content to win this tournament.
Like, I was hopping into games without actually studying shit.
I wasn't watching my opponents. I wasn't watching strategies or pro games much.
I was just doing content.
So like I'm like weak for the tournament, but man, it was such a fun time
Like besides a couple times where I like mega tilted. It was such a good time
We had such a fun time with the content. I don't even regret it. I don't even regret it
It was so fun like the amount of the beetle memes the frickin
The the blade master shenanigans like it was all so fun the coil his ass
it was it was all so fun so I'm gonna be honest I didn't approach this with like
the best competitive mindset but I just it was just so fun I was smiling for
12-hour straight on the streams people were really enjoying it on the chat I
was able to mix in some major umpires as well the Lich Queen is a good meme as
well yeah
I know bro, like bro, that's the most painful part as well, at least he cares, at least
at least he cares, man.
Pardon me, Dustin even wanna make heroes.
Am I crazy for saying that?
Yes. Yes.
Okay.
What you did last game was...
Oh, man.
Golden, golden.
Am I crazy for saying that?
Yeah, you're crazy for saying that
and not just because you're saying that.
Jesus.
Guys, the bracket show yesterday, Hera picked Titer 1, he gave Pax the right to pick the second player
and then Pax picked Yamato Kanan. I don't think they know how this
gets your best chances to win works, but I think they're very good at make the best possible fucking
show. Let's fucking go, Hera picked Titer 1, Pax picked Yamato Kanan, Dante picked Mary Maybe,
and Maxime picked Simply. The schedule for today, we're going to be starting with Hera and Tyler,
then Maxime and Simply, then we're going to be having the upper bracket semi-finals between
Hera, Tyler, Maxime, Simply, then the lower bracket between Hera, Tyler, Maxime, Simply.
All right, then we're going to move to the second part of the bracket, which will begin with PogChim
Outer Cannon, then Dante, Samurai, Maybe, then the winners of them, and then the losers of them.
8 best of 3s today and I brought some amazing casters in to come and cover the matches with
me today.
Hera and Titer1 is our opening match and we're going to be co-casting with the Viper and
Sing Sing.
Two players that were in the previous invitation as well.
Welcome to the stream Viper and Sing Sing, how are you guys doing?
Yo follow up?
Hello.
Hey the Viper.
I got a new champion, E-double.
Oh, you're aiming... Oh, because of the stream.
What's up guys? You played in the previous invitation in April 2025.
You had some pretty bangers series between each other.
If I recall correctly, the Viper was the only one that was able to beat the champion Sing Sing in any maps at all, not just this series.
Was that true?
Yeah, I think so. I'm pretty sure it was.
And we even won the 2v2, so I mean you have the dream casting do here, so
Grab it did you just wake up you have such a wake just woke up voice. Yeah. Yeah, I don't have kids
You know, I can wake up anytime I want
Which what's your wake up time Viber?
Today I was 645 a.m. So nice and late he got to sleep a little bit
Yeah, I fell asleep watching your you guys yesterday, so that was good at least
Why are you waking up at 6.45?
I have a kid man. It's kind of forced.
But still.
No, I woke up at 8am this morning, 2.5 hours before my alarm.
And I was like, I should go back to sleep, but I was squeezing my eyelid shut.
So I turned on Knopf's stream and I watched 2.5 hours of Warcraft before I could sleep again.
feels good man feels good man yeah grab it yeah can you give me a TLDR balance
changes last year yeah sure I'll take it from the top there's 117 changes just
it just like TLDR like 10 words sure let's see which doctors are buffed
Tarant or Buffed, Paladin Rifle is nerfed, Human is no longer probably top two, it's
probably bottom two. I would say Orc and Undead might be top two at the high level, but at
this level, I don't think Orc was, but now it probably is. Orc is. What I'm hearing is
that if we did a rematch today, suddenly I'm favorite against Sing Sing, right? I didn't
I thought I'd die for those, so my schedule would be the same I think.
Oh yeah, I also think back to the schedule that we had, because at that time I really
wanted to make sure that all of you guys played on both Saturday and Sunday, so I had a schedule
that involved everyone to lower bracket on Sunday as well, which means that I believe the Viper,
you played at like 2pm and then 11pm. I don't remember exactly, but it was fine.
Yeah, that's fine. You can handle it. But now, now everything is segmented. We're going to be having four best of threes of the upper half of the graphic on my stream, starting with Hera and Tyler, and then Maximum simply, and then it's going to be their winner and their lower bracket as well. I hope you guys can carry the casting because my voice isn't quite there yet.
But let me go and check with the admins to see how far we are in the video process.
Let's see, Herra is here, did you guys catch the bracket selection process yesterday?
Sing Sing, I'll ask you first.
No, not really, but I heard you explained earlier just now.
It's like they just choose, right?
Yeah, because Herra was the captain of Team Omega, you can check on my stream as well.
Herra is the captain of Team Omega, he was allowed to pick for himself a Team Alpha member
he wanted to play against.
I didn't know what strategy they're going to use.
He could have just picked Mary, maybe, but as we win, right?
Yep.
If you wanted to.
Yep.
All right.
What a chat.
Yeah, what do you think?
Yeah, he was doing it for the content.
It was a good choice.
Yeah.
I'm disappointed that Tyler won didn't send himself out for the
one you won at the end.
The captain should step down, step up in my opinion then, right?
Harry wasn't going to step up either.
Do you know how that actually happened?
Well, Hera was going to send Pox because Pox has the highest MMR and Pox agreed.
And then Hera was cajoling him a little bit, joking him around.
He's like, all the pressure's on you now.
Are you okay with this?
And the Pox was like, well, I am very nervous.
And then Hera's like, ah, it's going to be okay.
It's going to be okay.
But apparently after deliberating for a minute or more or so, Hera changed his mind and thought
maybe he should offload the nerves of Pox.
he was worried, maybe not realizing Pox was always going to be nervous no matter what.
And he's like, okay, I'll go.
I would say that this was pure mind games by Pox, because Pox, in my opinion, is secretly
the favorite for his tournament.
He just didn't want to show his warden power, his hidden weapon.
So this was mind games in my opinion.
Could be, could be.
We have the videos going, let's see.
So the way that the map system works, it's a best of three, double a limb of course,
so even if you lose you're still able to go through the lower bracket, which Sing Sing
is a big fan of.
I love the lower bracket.
They're gonna both ban two maps in the ABBA system, there will be three maps left, and
then the bot will pick one map first, which, oh, hold up.
I think I'm having some Fs all good. Oh yeah, I saw some webcam bugs. I think the wrong map band system was used. But it's, it's fine. I'll instruct them later.
They've decided their maps. So let's see what did they, what did they do? ABBA final remaining map?
Okay. So we went in the AB PIC system, apparently, or BA PIC system. That's fine. It's not a
big deal. It's the best of three. You need to win two out of three anyway.
It said it's fine to run with. Okay.
You good, the Viper?
It's just my streaming PC is dropping at the moment, which is where the camera is, so I still hear you fine and I'm here, but my camera might be bugging a bit.
Okay, seems okay again.
All right, all right. Yeah, we get you most of the time. Sometimes it freezes.
Okay.
How do I join the game? Is it float TV? Do you give me a lobby or how does it work?
There's two things we can do. I can just stream it towards you via Discord. You can also join via W3 Champions.
Do you have the most recent version installed?
I hope so.
I would love if you stream it on Discord.
Sure.
Thank you.
The same version mismatch.
Version mismatch for what?
I don't know.
Oh, you didn't update Warcraft, maybe.
Try updating via Battle.net.
We can always run with a stream initially on Discord.
I'll stream it to both of you.
Singencing, did you play any Warcraft since the last game?
No, not really.
Okay.
Game's too hard, man.
I know.
And that is Northern Isles.
I just want to say, I used to win at joint press tournaments,
and then I started collabing with you.
And then there was an immediate fall.
And I know you've been spending some time with her on that
I'm just saying I'm seeing a slight pattern here
I don't know if it's true or not, but it is a funic Winston's
Yeah, I do where this was going
That's crazy. Yeah, Hera immediately lost the best of five
I have basically accepted that I'm solely responsible for the destruction of the a we two goats
Which, that's crazy.
Six of these guys.
You guys are already hating?
No.
No, but it's all right.
I'm just saying that, listen, Hera, I spent time with Grubby.
It's great to see you.
Yeah, go ahead, please.
I spent time with Grubby.
And when I started spending time with him,
I was still winning tournaments.
I'm just saying, there's a pattern here.
That's all I was saying.
OK.
Grubby's ruining our entire lives, Matt.
I swear.
We're just letting him do it over and over again.
It's his secret plan to become the number one
with two player one time. The Violent Conqueror. I'm coming for it. Have you fallen so low,
Viper, that you're casting Warcraft? I thought you had honor, man. Listen, no, I love to see you
lose, Hera, and when Tyler rests against you, I know that it's almost a guaranteed loss,
and Tyler also plays Orc, so, you know, I'm here for the 10th. You're living vicariously through
him, but Viper, you're not going to dodge the me you show match after. I know you're an Orc player,
You're not gonna dodge that one. Alright, just even if Tyler wins, it's a different story. You got to do it yourself
But it's actually good to see you casting. I like it if Tyler beats you. I'll get coaching from him to beat you
Okay, perfect. That's good. If you win, yeah, you find another coach in the meantime just in case
Okay, who we hot is this reunion done guys? Oh my god, spare me the love stories
Holy moly
Got the big man here too. What's up, Tyler? You got the morning match you were hoping for
Yeah, a little bit earlier than I thought to be honest, 7am, shh, scrubby.
Sun's diving up where I live.
Yeah, I'm kind of...
Can you sleep when you stay up all night?
I'm kind of not there to...
When I stay up all night, bro.
You think I'm sweating this?
You're a joke, bro.
You just lost undead 20 minutes ago.
Yeah, he was five times your rating, by the way.
And that racist bridge is hell.
That's probably why you play it.
Cringer?
Okay, man, Harry you surprised us with the pick yesterday. I thought I thought people
were just gonna pick the optimal rating, but you're looking to get one of the biggest obstacles
out of the way. This is your worst matchup against the orc. Actually, what makes you
think you could take on Tyler?
I'm not gonna lie. I just don't think that was very good. Honestly, like, I think it's
It's not that I think he's bad, and I'm not hating.
Honestly, Tyler, I'm a fan.
Like, I actually like your streaming and whatnot.
Respectfully, I don't think you're a very good player.
That's fine, bro.
I was a 1600 peak player in my prime, and I'm still 30 times higher than you.
Bro, you played it easy.
I was actually talking to my chat about this yesterday.
People said that you're pretty good at AOE too.
Yeah, you're pretty good by default, because there's nobody left to play.
It's like you and 500 people.
You're the best out of five people.
Round of applause to you, Goat.
Round of applause, man.
So, I think that people rate you highly in this game because they think, oh, the AOE is just like this game, but you're not very good at either.
Tyler, Tyler, the only thing you've accomplished is getting a higher rank in games. You've never competed professionally. Have you competed professionally in any game?
Oh, I have a life. I'm sorry, bro. I can't travel the world with the family.
You have a life. So you say you're a five-time challenger and you have a life. Which one is it, bro? You have to pick one. It's not both.
I do pose that's why I'm the goat everything bro. I don't play one game or two games
I feel like seven different games at an extremely extremely athletic and high level. I'm gonna have to eat as well by the way
That's me. I know you're not that
Hey, you are not an athlete
You can't maybe me
We have a foot race after this we have a weightlifting we can see who can jump higher throw further any athletic
I beat you in everything as well as Warcraft 3.
Do you beat me in League 1v1?
Yes.
No way.
We can do it.
We'll get that started some day maybe.
We'll do it nice and easy.
We'll get that started some day maybe.
For now I'm going to let you guys fight it out in the map.
The game name is in the Discord.
Go ahead and join.
Get your game face on.
Thank you guys for joining for the pre-game talk.
We'll see you after.
Good luck bro.
You'll need it man.
Good luck.
Where is the stream, Gobi? I'm waiting for it.
Yep, yep, I can't stream it yet until the game actually starts.
Otherwise it would be like a display capture.
So it's just going to be me in the lobby then.
The first map is going to be Northern Isles.
Funnily enough, this is actually a good undead map, and Hera picked it.
You always wonder, are people aware of what maps are actually good for them?
them. Oftentimes it can take months to develop that kind of understanding. I don't know where
he got the info or if he got lucky, but this is the same map the number one player in the
world happy who is also an undead likes as well. So maybe he's done his research.
Well, I for one know that I had a guy behind my back called Knopf. And he just told me what
knives were good or bad. So I just picked whatever he said. Maybe he has the same.
Did you know why they were good or bad? Nope.
I trusted him
Didn't you have the same thing saying you had a coach guide that gathered you and told you maps as well?
No, I just played maps. I go fuck it. Let's go
You know, I definitely know
Sorry good
Like aren't there maps that are like super specifically good for like undead for example
Like does every race have good maps or is it some races that have extremely good maps if you get what I mean?
I'm a little embarrassed to admit that I'm not as much aware of it. Like I only developed
that information after a huge amount of trial and error personally. Otherwise, I just believe
what other people say, which I count as semi suspect, semi reliable information. Northern
Isles, for instance, is good for undead against Orc, but I've always liked it against undead.
So is the rest of the world crazy or am I? I don't know anymore. But the balance could
make like five or 10% difference maybe on map to map.
Okay, that's a solid month.
I got to know Hera quite a bit more through this Warcraft 3
adventure. I thought that he was going to have an extremely
analytical approach where kind of like Sing Sing basically,
where he's going to be practicing opening replays, you know,
he's the RTS representative. A lot of people were saying that
it's kind of unfair to put Hera a wolf with the sheep in the
rest of the sheep pen that how can you put these guys together
you've got league players together with or Super Mario speedrunner together with an RTS guy that won 16 tournaments in a row
But he came here. He grinded possibly more than was good for him and did less analysis
Which he actually ended up admitting later himself. He probably should have done more of but he had fun
Who the fuck cares about fun? He says he does but
He didn't watch any replays.
He played 300 games man, it's insane.
I think it was more than that.
Yeah, in my stream the other day he said he had over 400 games in two weeks, which is
more than me and Singlesing played combined, so.
I think it's not so bad.
Fuck yeah.
But I mean that's been his way of doing things forever in Asian Empires, both 2 and 4, right?
AW4 wasn't that good at the start, but he grinded like hell and suddenly he became one
of the best.
I remember that.
I got to know you and you you were so methodical analytical you actually said get no billboarders
Viper, but you played so well early on and then eventually towards the end of the aoe4 era that most of us played
Hera was getting so sick with his micro and his unit control. Yeah
Just grinded it out. All right. Let me do a little intro of the match
This is the altar of champions. The one-on-one tournament has begun. It's early in the morning 2 p.m
in the Netherlands and we are starting our one-on-one tournament. It will be
played out over Saturday and Sunday. There's $8,000 of prize money for this
part of the event and we're gonna be going into game as I'll just go ahead
and set this up right after this intro guys, the opening of this. We have the
Viper and Sing Sing casting with me. This is Hera against Titer 1. It's a double
elimination bracket, all best of three. Here we go.
And you guys can't see anything so you can't comment on anything.
There it is.
Let's see, how are the clear colors cursed? We got blue against purple.
Awesome. Tyler won in the top right in the blue, Hera in the left in purple.
So if we get the webcam switched over, then we should be all well and ready.
You guys got the signal?
Yeah, working fine.
You mentioned earlier that you said now maybe Undead and Orc were the two best, was that it?
Yeah, I think so. I think Undead, I mean, it's hard, right?
Because where do you look? The top five players, the top ten, the top 30, top 100, it's different everywhere.
But in the top ten it looks like Undead and Orc are the best,
but it's greatly influenced by the extremely strong individual representatives of every race.
So you never really know the truth.
Makes sense. What would you say Hera's playstyle has been in Worldcraft 3 compared to like Avid 2?
Hera's playstyle in Worldcraft 3 has been he basically, first of all he learned one of my
built, which is like for newbies, which is mass a lot of units, and cheese, cheese expands,
think like Cumans in a we two, going for the early tier one expand, or like the equivalent
of a ram rush, again with Cumans, that's the build he first learned, but then he quickly
switched to the best built in the world, which is by happy. So he copied the rank one player,
DK Lich every game trying to play correctly playing the correct units, but which has a
very high micro threshold. And initially, he couldn't live up to that micro threshold.
But he's getting better and better
Yeah, forget to see it now opening death knight, which is the common opening against against orc
Just a try one coming for the early harass
Looks like sing sing dropped from the discord for now
I don't know if we have a moderator that can help get him back into the voice channel
Maybe a moderator can check with him
We're going to keep spectating the stream. I missed your last comment. Let's see what's
happening. Hera took part of his own creep camp. Wait, where is his XP? Oh, Tyler stole
a creep?
Tyler stole, yeah. Very nice. I mean, this is how when I was playing, I loved to open
against the undead as well. He's going to open far, see your head enters and apply the
pressure, try to make it awkward for the undead to creep. Because if the undead just wants
to stay one base and get XP and get up to his end composition that's put that way.
So we just want to mess with that as much as possible and I assume that's still kind
of the same.
Kind of the same, but the end composition may have changed.
We're just going to look what happens here in the micro moment before we delve too deep
into the tier two.
There's a lot of damage being done on the death knight of Hera.
Tyler has his Farsier and Headhunter being harassed as well.
I see more experience in Tyler's Farsier right now.
killed skeletons or ghouls maybe. Nice ghoul saved there by Hera. Hera goes for a coil
that is not yet lethal on a headhunter. That's usually a blunder if you can't be sure to
finish the headhunter off. But he's just going to go with a back-to-back coil and gets the
kill.
Nice by Tyler as well to resummon the wolf so Hera didn't get the kill on that final wolf.
And yeah, their botch is resetting going back. I assume to continue creeping and slowly developing
their forces.
When you were playing the Viper one year ago, not that long ago, though the game balance
is different.
What was your go-to after opening Farsi or Headhunter's against Undead?
I think I tried to get to Spirit Walkers.
Oh wait, no, how was it?
I honestly don't even remember anymore.
It was slightly different depending on which race I opened against, right?
Often I would either win or lose the game on the spot with my head under pressure.
even rushing tower runs? What's that against Undead?
Let's see, you had, we have to remember also the context. You were playing against, I believe, two Undeads.
One of which was tasteless, which MMR-wise would be an easy discount as being a threat.
And then there was also Turin, who was specifically a Dreadlord opener player.
So things were always going to be different for you. And so you probably did some far-see your Firelord rushes.
It could be that I tried to do, well yeah I think you taught me to do the Fire Lord
as a second and just be like very aggressive as I hit tier 2.
Yeah you used some of that to beat Sing Sing who unfortunately we cannot get into the voice
call right now as he was unable to reconnect and or to see the vault as well so I'm just
going to go ahead and ask my editor, while Sing Sing isn't in voice can we switch to
a solo cam setup to eliminate confusion and we'll keep casting this one.
So whatever was your build then, Tyler now has kind of a new build, and it looks like
he's leveraging it once again with a Spirit Lodge and a Torrent Totem.
He's going to go for Doctors and Torrents most likely.
I think I remember, I think I used to play the Wolves as well, the ones that throw the
net.
Yeah, Raiders.
Exactly.
But at some point in Tyler's practice, in the first week or two or so, he was playing
like, how are you saying?
And then at some point he switched to this Taran and Doctor build, that I didn't teach
him, I don't think Knopf taught him, he just came up with it from some replay or some
vod and he liked it and he's gelling with it and he keeps doing it.
Honestly, Tyra's flow has been really, really good.
He has to tip this creep and run though, because of the risk of taking such a camp at this
point.
It seems like he actually does that.
He had no information about Hera, but he just knows that when you get level 3 you're
supposed to go back and heal.
Yeah, very good. Also very little inactivity, right? You never want to sit idle, you want to creep as much as you can, be active on the map, and honestly both players have done that very well so far, so looking very close so far.
Far?
Harrah's creep round has been pretty sick as well.
He crept his way to level 3, mostly avoided getting harassed more by the Orc player.
Now he's stealing away a camp that Orc usually likes to use in order to get level 2 on the
Taurin Chieftain, uses a greater mana potion to refill his mana and also to keep his ghouls
healthy here.
Whereas Tyler, he skips the usual camp, followly enough, and then goes for the second camp
you normally take, which means he might get backstabbed by Harrah if they meet each other.
solo farce here leaving so the TC can get solo xp it's actually gonna make him
run in with Hera well Hera make the conclusion that that means that TC is to
the bottom right no and in fact that looked like such a small coil was that
even level two I don't think so possibly not but this ends up being like big
brain by by Tyler and then coincidentally just baiting Hera
completely when Hera is wasting a lot of time or not I mean he might get the kill
with a good surround. Oh my god, gets around!
Yeah, early TP. I mean he got the camp as well, so for cost of one TP was it worth the camp and
baiting Hera's army for so long? I think it's better than getting all your heads on this call
now, but it's better if you don't get surrounded, but there's still a lot of mana. I don't think we're
in an either or situation. We have another coil on Tyler, Star and Chieftain coming in. The Farsier
had ruined Bracers, so he was kind of immune against such kind of spell damage. It seems like
Harrah has trouble picking his target. One hat to kill would be very okay for Tyler. He's getting some
high Octane units coming out soon with the Torren. I wonder if he's going to take something like
Lightning Orb in order to give him some CC. Very defensive items on Tyler. He's got double
Ring of Protection plus 5 on the Torred Chieftain who now has 12 armor and the Parseer has
ruined Bracers. So those heroes are going to be real tanky.
Raising armor and such protection what you want on the Chieftain because I feel like you often
I just dive in and stomp and things like that. So yeah being tanky should be really good. It's great
It's great all those calls of attack items. They're more for the blade master style
I can't think of a better item set that Tyler could actually get whether he's happy with it or not
I'm not sure. Herra picks up a pit Lord. Let's take a look at his timings. He's getting good frenzy right now
Doesn't have destroyer upgrade, but doesn't have 50 population. The thing that's missing is orb of corruption
Right now Hera has to send a hero back in order to get the orb of corruption
He sensed the death knight, but that means that his army is AFK waiting in the middle right now the Viper
Yeah, Tyler is looking out for potential engagement here. Yes, it's Tauron out on the map as well
Now so he has tier three unit. Yeah, it's tier three, right? Tauron. Yeah, for sure for sure
So I like I like Tyler's army right now
Maybe he should be looking for an engagement at least deny her from creeping and being aggressive
But they and now he's ending up maybe just dancing in the middle
Maybe we're going to have a little bit of a dance-off before they actually engage,
which I feel like the longer this goes, maybe the better it is for Hera as well.
Maybe Tyler wants to take fights before Hera ends up on his end goal composition,
because Hera's micro is really good.
Yeah, he's got a lot of ghouls here, an immediate coil.
He's trying to connect with the Nova as well.
I think he's going to be in range soon if he wants to waste another Nova on it.
There's the Orb of Corruption.
One headhunt is going to get attacked.
There's the first Healing Award by Tyler.
Herra has shown a lot of color blindness and taken down the healing wards in the past in this practice
But not so here he immediately gunned for it and took down the healing wards
The next time a doctor comes out in seven seconds
There's gonna be another one and there's two torrents here pulverize
Tyler has to wait for his pulverized timing and he gets it now now he's ready to fight ghouls
Yeah, those those healing wards were so painful for me
I struggled also so much to notice them in the middle of the fight
And if Hera doesn't notice them, they can be a game changer for sure.
Got a little missed war stamp there, another coil kill on the headhunter.
Tyler turns on a speed scroll and tries to run in, tries to get a level 1 war stamp.
I don't think that's it.
The destroyer comes out and is going to start to target down some of the back line there.
There's not a lot of headhunter left. One Torrent takes a lot of damage already as well.
This looks like a really good fight for Hera.
Yeah, I don't know what happened there.
Looks like Tyler, a lot of his units didn't fight.
Like his head aren't just for running forward is a witch doctor was running forward without fighting. So yeah, Tyler may have just missplaced here
Thank you speed scrolled in with the attempt to chase and get a good war stomp
But everything didn't quite land how he would have wanted it to land
Tigers also kind of buckling under the pressure of keeping his macro up with
850 gold in the bank and his torrent totem and spirit large being idle after fully upgrading those units to be as
Effective as he wants them to we can't say that he's fully ready for this attack
Now he's making a tauren, now he's making a doctor, now he's got the lightning orb on the tauren chieftain.
If Hera lets up, Tyler will bounce back really well.
OH NO! ANOTHER WORST UP!
TYLER IS NERVOUS THE VIPER!
Yeah, that's a misclicking of a lot of wasted mana for sure.
I mean, needs to buy this time here to get back to his ultimate composition.
Hera definitely in a comfortable spot right now.
You see, clarity is not getting cancelled just yet.
There's a healing ward. How quickly will Hera see it and disable it? That's giving percentage healing. Oh, yeah, he saw it with his death knight
I was acting for a little bit though under
I'm looking at that like Hera's
Population never changes there has been 51 53 the whole time every engagement
So he's just keeping all his units alive on macroing well behind it
Well, I feel like Tyler is more dancing back and forth, but to me this looks like a
Okay, is straight for both sides. Yeah, here right now has a lot of destroyers and there's not much anti air left
That's a big problem. It's all gonna come down to the destroyer micro here because if they auto attack
They'll attack the Torren chieftain, which means it'll do nothing
There's also another healing word here for Tyler if you can stay next to it
He's gonna be good, but Tyler made a big blunder
He sent his gold peons into the burrow in order to try and defend his base and so that's not gonna help him that much
He's also gonna need some more anti air
I wonder if he'll do it with headhunter production or if he's just gonna rely on his heroes to attack destroyers
Harrah's trying to push the issue
He spent like you said a lot of time over 50 pop which means he had less money
But he took such good trades that he could just finish the game right here viper
Yeah, I think I think tyler has the the orb that allows you to hit air with both his heroes, right?
Yeah, so there's a little bit of empty air, but yeah, the numbers just seem like
Harrah's numbers are just too many although the death not getting a little bit dangerous
Oh Frost Armor! Frost Armor is a late tech that Hera developed. He initially barely ever
used his lich abilities. For the first three weeks only Nova occasionally but Frost Armor was
highlighted as a big improvement to defend yourself and to defend low heroes. He's got that on the
death knight that helps a lot. Also has the ring of protection circlet and gauntlet on the death
knight very helpful. He's just gonna chill next to his statues which are healing up and during
all this fiber, Hera took an expansion. Yep, just keeping all the pressure, forcing
Tire to stay defensive and taking the economy behind it. This is looking like it's going
to be a very uphill battle here for Tire to climb. It does look like that. He's got some
strong hitting units, but Hera is already preparing new tech. He has gone over 50 population
in order to keep map pressure, but with an expansion coming up behind it and preparing
the new Frost Worm tech while also getting Abomination Fatties to tank in front with
the disease cloud, Hera is diversifying his army like crazy.
I feel like he's like, he loves the trash talk that's been going on here.
I feel like he wants to style a little bit on him as well.
He can't live with everything, the things he doesn't see that much of and just be like,
yeah, I'm not good at it.
It's crazy because I don't know if he kept up with the MMR progression a little bit,
He was like sixth or seventh seed on the MMR rank ladder, and then he got to like the fifth, the fourth, third, second at some point, but he dropped back down to the fourth again, kind of hit a morale low in the last four days, and had some depressing words like he's going to lose A3, he's going to lose Warcraft 3, whatever happens, happens.
I'm just going to show up, I'm going to stop practicing, and then he queued up again.
So, his actions and words didn't align, and yesterday he just looks like a new person.
Yeah, I mean he has been in this situation a lot of times, tough situations in competitive
gaming, right?
So, he would expect his mental to be pretty strong, and I don't know if I can say the
same thing about Tyler.
I was watching his stream 50 minutes before this as well, and he was already raging,
Oh shit game, you're de-installing, never gonna play this again, you know, those types of words, so
when you enter, compare the match 15 minutes later after those types of words, and then we'll see how
we stuck in the middle of the map as well. But you know, yesterday, yesterday Tyler said,
this is the best game ever made, when he was winning the 2-on-2 and the 4-on-4.
He tends to flip a bit on his opinions.
I mean to me it feels like one thing I noticed yesterday with Hera against
the Yamaato cannon, he doesn't know how to end the games comfortably. Like he'd rather
play it safe, continue creeping, expand than committing to a fight where he doesn't know
if he's gonna win or lose. It's to be fair if you're the one that has an expansion and
you're preparing a new tech that counters your opponents, not the wrong call. Usually
the way you want to do it in Warcraft 3. A few days ago, like a week ago, he asked me,
how do I finish games? I don't think that should be necessarily the number one obsession
for a Warcraft 3 player. It depends on how you see it as finishing. It's definitely not
always a frontal attack. Usually it means getting the better creeps. That's exactly what he's
doing here. Getting the red spot because you're the bully on the map is usually correct.
Yeah. I mean, the saying goes, right? If your head gets further ahead. But my point is just
Like if Hera was, if it was happy in Hera's spot,
he would have gone and killed Tyler
after those couple of first engagements.
Yeah.
The Hera's playing it safe,
which is also a way of winning the game.
Look at how safe his death knight is.
Five points.
Look at these items.
He's got so much.
Look at the bottom two ones.
So much bonus strength, 150 extra health.
This is 125 extra health, this 75 extra health,
three extra armor.
He's got bonus armor here, bonus armor here.
It's pretty insane.
Death Knight is not going to be an easy focus target.
Now Tyler's at 51 population, he's got some bad riders to try and take down destroyers,
but there's a new aerial threat in the Frost Worm!
Well, decent connections here for sure,
Harold does a nice fit in the end, Tuesday's alive, but very low HP, so Tyler could target them down quickly,
but yeah, those Frost Worms, how does Tyler view with his army?
This is a crazy evolution as a player by Harold, he really had his whole going, GG,
1-0 for Hera on his opening map.
Tyler didn't write GG?
Yeah, I missed it too.
Maybe it was like a bug with his keyboard or something?
Could be.
Oh well, great stuff for Hera nonetheless.
I think most people view Hera as the favorite going into this match.
But you never know with Tyler, right?
Suddenly if the game goes his way, he can definitely pull off some crazy games.
We'll see. For now though, Hera living up to the...
Well, my perception at least is that most people viewed Hera as the favorite in this matchup.
I don't know if it's the same on your end.
I've seen a lot of discussion about it.
On my Discord, people really weren't sure.
In fact, both Hera and Tyler impressed yesterday.
They played better than expected, even,
with Tyler doing extremely well on the 2v2 and 4v4.
For instance, Tyler lost like six headhunters,
and he denied like four of them in 2v2.
and then he also did a auto attack steal on a level 6 creep.
And this was very conducive to them winning the 2v2.
In 4v4 he likewise bought a lot of time in order to get to the late game for his entire team.
So he was definitely shared MVP in those two series and did much better than expected.
But now we're in this one-on-one.
Hera also did much better than expected in the Clan War component.
And it just seems like he keeps getting stronger.
It reminds me a little bit of his
a we to Red Bull finals a month ago where he starts o3 against Leary
And you're just starting to count them out and then he comes back and wins five in a row
kind of disgusting
Yeah, I mean again Harris mental game is very strong right, but I mean this has well like
Herra will knock his head against the wall until some knowledge sticks right and then he learned it
And then it's it's permanently there
And then he will start on the next step and the next step and the next step the more games
Herra play like give her another month with Warcraft and everyone else here a month not a month as well
Herra would stomp all them easily. He's just his work ethic is just insane
So yeah, he has obviously the mechanical skill
I think he's far beyond any of these competitors, right?
The question is does he have a knowledge gap where others can take advantage and I feel like I watched a little bit of like
pox's stream. He was playing talking, explaining what he was doing, talking about the laboratory,
the cost of this and that. And like, he seemed so knowledgeable. And when he has that, from what
I hear, the secret warden, where he plays that super well, I feel like that knowledge gap could
be a potential problem for her. Welcome back to Sing Sing. Hope you got your issues resolved with
the technique. Yeah, I'll just join you in game. So it's fine. I'm sorry. Yeah, I didn't expect a
a technical issue from the squirts randomly like that's just too bad but I'm
here gets and the game is already over I know this but that I just got stumps
yeah did you managed to catch a little bit of it no nothing nothing at all
Tyler's opening was okay ish no it was just when once the pressure came in a
little bit Tyler kind of fell flat on his face a little bit I think the opening
was kind of solid no yeah Tyler's opening was really good he's still a
creep, he did pressure, he disrupted Hera a bit, but the map is big, there's a lot of creeps
everywhere, and if you lose sight of where, by the way, do you want to join too, Sing Sing?
Yeah, I do. Okay, the game name is in the map veto lobby, in the general lobby, actually. Okay,
you're right. Excellent, excellent. All right. So that's good. How was the map draft again, right?
You said there was a draft like the first map was good for undead. Did Hera pick this? Or
how was the draft done again? Yeah, now we are on Tyler's pick. So yeah, Hera won his map.
Okay, yeah. And the eventual third map, the side map would be?
It's going to be the most neutral because there's only one left. It's Autumn Leaves. In my opinion,
that's a good Orc map against Undead. Why? It's small. It's really, really small. You're
right on top of someone. It's the shortest rush distance in the whole game. It exactly fits
I'm not going to give you room to breathe and get to the late game kind of set up.
Does that matter if you're playing one base on that? Don't you want to fight anyway?
Yeah, kind of. The early game will be hard for the undead, but it may be hard for the orc to get
an expansion, which is usually the way that orc wants to get a victory against undead as finishing
in an undead base. It's pretty scary. I feel like it's coming back to me now. You asked me how I
play it. I feel like I used to play farceer, head-enter, into expand, and then the raiders.
Just head-enter raider Coda.
Think so. Yeah, and Coda, exactly. Yeah, I believe that was my call.
I'm not sure if that's something... I mean, you say Tyler goes his own way, right?
Honestly, if Tyler found a styler works for him by himself, I think that's also really cool and
impressive in itself. It's a strong build. I'm going to go and enter the map, and then we're going
going to jump into the game. This is Last Refuge.
Alright, Last Refuge. Tyler1's map choice is underway.
Hera took a convincing 1-0 lead.
After a pretty good early game by Tyler1,
Hera managed to just come out ahead in a big way.
The game is begun.
Spawning at the bottom left is Hera with a 1-0 lead
against Tyler1.
He's playing as the undead in the purple and the top right.
In red, we have Tyler1 playing as Orc.
Let's go.
I don't like orcs, I don't like orc players.
All they do is cheese, all they do is run, they never fight your head on, it's never
a good orc.
You should try them sometime.
Bro, I went stretch your face every time we played, we were talking about it.
You were the only exception, everyone else ran.
Fair enough.
I'll never forget your, one of your opening practice games with our coaching Sing Sing.
the suck incident.
Oh, yeah, the sock! You remember the sock? I remember the sock. Good times.
Does not tell me what the sucking happened.
It was a raw deal for me. Basically, Sing Sing was wasting my time. You may know that my time is extremely valuable.
And I was coaching him. And he was overstaying in a practice game where he already lost to this orc guy on Northern Isles.
He was spawning in the top right location, and it was over, basically.
He was losing his main base, the Orc had much higher levels, bigger army, he was cooler,
he was handsomer, and everything. Then, Sing Sing was stuck on his expansion,
and I was thinking, let's leave the game, let's get to the VOD review.
I said, I'll eat a sock if Sing Sing wins this, and he made it another 20 minutes and won.
I'm sure you can find a chocolate sock or something that you can eat.
No chocolate socks allowed, only stinky sweaty gym socks allowed.
Everyone is not opening with the immediate harass this time around, it's going to open
up with the creeping on the ogre warrior, dooms a good wolf micro, getting his head
Hunter Art as well, the double burrow opening again.
Hera is going to start his creeping on his own side, so less aggression to begin with
from Tyler 1.
Same thing.
How can we scout it with Bacolite?
What do you look for if you're on that tier?
First of all, you use it to kill a sheep so that you don't have to wait for it.
There's like a two second spawn delay when you want to summon skeletons from it.
Next, you kind of have that supply space and you also want to know if you're against
Blade Master or Farsir.
So you're looking for one burrow, two burrow, shopper, no shop, FS or BN.
Okay.
So now he knows.
Now he knows. Same opening as last time, by the way.
Hera loves playing against Fars here.
Oh, nice potential!
Haha, nice one by Tyler1.
Yeah, he likes playing against Fars here.
He thinks Blade is more difficult.
And I don't think Tyler1 target practiced and be like,
Okay, then I'm gonna go play Blight. He's just playing whatever he believes in his best.
Oh my god!
Oh no, it's live! Damn!
With an air coil, losing out against a single farce or auto attack.
Tyler wants CS here, is on point.
Silamir works?
Never a fair fight.
Stealing, running.
Dude, are you sure?
Run? That is like the worst dealer of all with that coil in the Frost Nova.
Yeah, this yeah, it's hard to say is again. Well, you didn't use it the last time you tried to just hits before zero
Cool play by Hera like hiding around the forest in order to use vision against Tyler with melee against range
You have to be a little bit clever with how you move and he was using that vision the Google got sent away
But perhaps not far enough
He is now the murloc with the wolves finishing him off so far Tyler is a big advantage
But Hera's gonna try and get some kills 100% you can get one Tyler should just sacrifice one
and then save the rest.
I could try and deny it as well.
Oh!
Did he fail?
Did he deny this?
I didn't see the exclamation mark either, so maybe he did fail.
Oh true.
Yeah, I think the skinnet didn't get the clubbin.
Yeah, yeah.
And the deathlight has 40 XP over his level up, so it's very possible.
No deny, but it was close.
I was definitely watching some happy with these surroundings he's trying to get.
That's a good job.
Nice, that's a deny.
So one goal died, one head tend to die as well, but two a deny.
Yesterday, Taito said that when you deny your own units,
you also gain experience as the denier.
And I was about to actually him,
but then I thought maybe he's doing this to lie to his opponents
Or he really doesn't know, but there's really no need for me to correct him there.
Also, I-
You played Dola?
That's a Dola change, I think.
You don't get XP for a denying Dota, do you?
I'm thinking, do you in this patch?
I don't know if you do in this patch.
It was a patch where you even got gold.
I'm not sure about XP.
I think you get like 1-4 for something.
I've never played with a mechanic.
Some people are saying, yeah, you used to.
Okay.
So ancient, 16-10 damage.
Oh, not anymore.
I mean, look.
I want him all to do well, so if Tyler needs that information to do denies, then I'm gonna let him keep doing it, even though that part isn't true.
It's still good to deny Xp to an opponent.
Oh, Crystal Ball! He sees Hera.
If that was true though, it means killing your own units gives Xp. Couldn't you then continuously sacrifice units to level up your heroes?
Yeah, yeah, it would be a really good way to get to level 6 or whatever.
Oh, another Xp again, you killed Wolf?
No.
In the killers.
Free xp hack. Oh by the way, a different build by Tyrone is going to go for Beastiary and Totem.
This is a map control based build that requires good destroyer counterplay.
It gives you a strong 69 minute window where you have spirit link when you play it well.
And after that it kind of falls off against a good destroyer timing.
I was just killing it from my 20xp dudes.
Very enthusiastic with the self kills.
You see, Hera's macro isn't quite there, he was very low on lumber because of big ghoul usage.
That's kind of like the hidden cost of constantly walking around with these ghouls.
He's only now making slaughterhouse at near the 7 minute mark.
That's about a minute late.
So in your expert opinion, Grobby, what do you say is looking better so far this game?
If nothing else happens, they have no engagements with each other, then Undead wins this.
What I can you you for an item you like the envelope says no the gold died to a
neutral oh that's nothing new I'm used to that already I'm glad it's still
racist I'm glad it raises some eyebrows with you but the hero used to be a
three to five cool Andy like in losing to creeps all the time it's only got
better recently it was hard to watch another one look yeah you might
He knows about the Diago Trick, right?
Yes, yeah, Harry knows about the Diago Trick. He uses it.
Tyler won, I think, doesn't use it. He will just pull units away or not.
But yeah, who is ahead? If no... Uh-oh, one more goal. Oh, nice one.
If no engagement happens between them, this build for Orc becomes obsolete.
It's like going to the nuclear age with Bronze Weaponry.
But if an early fight happens with Spirit Link enabled, that can be good for Tyler1.
Honestly, I like Harris' position more, also because Tyler's in this awkward spot.
By now, by 8 minute mark, Spirit Link should already be giving map control and domination.
Instead, his walker hasn't been part of the game yet, and soon he will be against destroyer
timing already, where walker essentially, with microdwell, becomes obsolete.
So it's fucked.
It looks pretty bad for Tyler.
Like 9 minutes in dude.
But look what we can do.
This is a no TP fight.
Tyler has the potential here to kill almost everything if he micro's it well.
Spiritlink all raiders, target fires some heroes with and snare or some ghouls.
No Spiritlink active yet.
not being used this is just a walker for bonus dps good war stamp on an illusion and a ghoul
there's a lot of spirit link either and a lot of ghouls were killed look walker is still good
against ghouls as statues even if it doesn't use link because it does 40 damage against them
with the magic damage of 20 against heavy armor but ideally there with raiders if you spirit link
your raiders, you're not going to lose the raiders. Now Tyler only lost one but the others out of
commission. The raiders should offer a level of control there where players can perform a surround
and first kill all the ghouls, then the statues, then maybe even a hero. That should be the expected
result at a higher elo. But using its snare effectively, having your link active at all times,
these are all skills that come with more time, with more practice, that is not quite there yet
for Tyler1. He does have level 3 TarnChieftain and he still has a much stronger army and
Hera isn't creeping that much in the interim here.
Yeah, that's right. Sorry.
No, like if I was thrown into this game, I would feel like I'm in a decent spot if I'm
Tyler, right? But you keep saying he's looking bad. I know Hera is tier 3, I think Tyler
is not even thinking about going there. Although I feel like tier 3 for the berserker upgrade
could be quite valuable here. He even mixed in, not a footman, but what that was called
There's an angle here, isn't he on the other front?
Can you walk up like this?
Don't you just...
Don't you just kill his ass?
This should be really good for Tiger 1 if he keeps his raider separate.
Tiger sends 2 units into creeps, he loses 5 population by not having his units control-grouped and walking into creeps.
There's a Nicen snare on the statue, he's surrounding the Tarn Chieftain, which has greater involvement.
Very good war stop, and he's targeting the destroyer as well!
Still isn't it a Spiritling?
Oh is there a spade link?
Nope, not a single link.
Uh, it maybe did get removed.
Stomps?
Huge stomps!
Now one HP destroyed too, that's not...
Oh, I got healed.
Chain Lightning doesn't end up killing anything.
The heroes are following Lich's big damage.
Bitlord with the Howl of Terror reduced the damage a lot.
Herra keeps chasing it.
Where's the Chieftain going?
He's going from the other...
Oh, hello!
He should be using Clarity and running back home.
Heelsolf actually got killed.
The same had something that Heelsolf got killed.
Now the question is, where does Hera go from here?
Does he dare to creep the merc camp?
That would be really risky.
It would be valuable, but risky with the state of his army.
And where is his follow up?
He's got plenty of lumber in the bank,
so he can use as many tools as he wants.
There's a macro cigarette to allow him
to go over 50 population.
Titus there was a big bank.
He's also got his TC being healed back up.
He's making grunts now, raiders, back to 50 pop.
Anything is still possible. I would say it's actually relatively even.
Q2, Q3 as well.
You know what you wanted to expand when Hera came there? If Hera didn't show up in this corner,
Expo would have started,
Tyler would have healed his raider and then start the merc camp.
Hera is doing a lot of walking around though, I'm not gonna lie.
Total level in here. Two level ones now, I just need to get the game.
He should be creeping this.
Yeah, I feel like if I was Tyler, I would be very comfortable. Obviously we see everything.
Yeah.
Um, that is a nice snagging of that camp. Obviously right in front of the Tyler's nose.
So Tyler's keeping at the same time being active.
Yeah, he has, as we said, way less idle time compared to Hera, so...
I still like Tyler's box. In my professional opinion.
Yeah, there's a window here to exploit Sing Sing because Tyler doesn't have reinforced defenses,
nor is he upgrading it. Hera's in front of it.
So if there's a destroyer attack and Tyler doesn't come home,
could be risky. So, let's have a notice, though. I don't think Hera really does that all that
much against burrows. I'm not sure he can see the difference between reinforced and unreinforced
burrows. Yeah, it was OP. Nothing new.
Singsy, is there anything about human that is OP, by the way? No, human is so weak, you have to like
always make the perfect humans for matchups with humans. That's why they were north, right?
Do you?
No, the Polar Rifle Conductor.
Yeah, Polar Rifle Conductor.
Oh, that is human.
Yeah, but it's like the normal human players, you know, the skillful ones, they don't play
Polar Rifle, because Polar Rifle is going to bring that.
Right, right.
I like the little check to see how...
How reasonable Sing Sing is about balance.
Look, expansion again, but Tyler is already being aggressive.
He's got one armor upgrade, went over 50 population, has a Kodo Beast at home that is joining the army.
58 pop. There's a destroyer scouting right now.
Hera pulling out some new tricks I think he saw that Tyler's in the vicinity.
As Hera creeps the corner camp, gets a Ring of Regeneration, pretty decent item on Bitlord, better on Death Knight.
Tyler ignores all that noise, doesn't creep the Merc camp, doesn't check the gold mine or the corner, and goes for the main base.
And Harrow once again falls to his own hubris, putting Boneyard in front.
How many times did I tell him it should be inside the base so it doesn't get cancelled?
This time Tyler Spirit walked twice by Spiritlinked, so he's ready for an engagement.
He expected an engagement and did Spiritlink, so he's on point now.
Tyler needs to be careful, he doesn't get owned by the Merc camp again.
So far looks good. There's a destroyer, gets ensnared. Should be a free kill.
Don't you just eat the spirit link?
You should.
But will he?
He does.
He did.
He doesn't kill it.
That's kind of catastrophic.
But the destroyer's in front, he can still get targeted.
Destroyer goes down, TC tries to get in position, gets a bad war stamp, and only death knight
and one ghoul.
There's a heal ward for Hera.
Let's see how quickly Tirec cancels the heal ward.
Not yet so far it's taken away for Hera.
The heal ward is still active.
There's a second one.
He's netting the statues. He's netting all the statues. He's focusing them.
Yeah, good micro. Besides ignoring the heel-art, good micro by Tyler. Also, really good timing attack.
You want to be leveraging a Spirit Link attack like this.
This looks really good for Tyler. He sniped both the healing wards, and now his arm is just way better.
Oh, he almost ate the Abomination as well. Very close.
Is he the wrong one?
No, no. When you walk away, the Vowler will fail.
Oh, what? I didn't know. I thought it was a target spell.
Yeah, it is, but it needs vicinity to someone. If you walk away, it will miss every single time.
But you have to walk away the opposite direction. Turn 360 and walk away.
How was it, Gravi? If the ghoul there killed the wolf, does any hero get XP when they're not nearby?
Yes, there's global XP and local. Local is prioritized over global, but you always get XP if a non-building kills a unit.
Well, Hera's supply not looking to health him now, Tyler has an expansion behind this.
Yeah, this looks so good.
Yeah.
Tyler has a nice expansion, he's pushing the undead base, sucks ass.
Yes.
Yeah, this is how to end games against undead.
Almost nobody should ever like to finish by killing someone in their base as an undead.
Undead base is too powerful.
Huge idol by Tyler1.
Do you personally prefer Legion Doom Lord, the Viper, when you play as Orc, or the Brillant Zara?
If you tell me what they do again, then I will...
Like, Legion of Doom, I think, is a lot better, honestly.
I know they're both very useful, of course, but Legion of Doom just gives a little bit more survivability and movement speed,
and as Orc, I feel like that's way more valuable.
Yeah, of course it is.
Yeah, on Iran.
I wasn't trying to put you on the spot, I thought you knew.
It's a year ago and you know the issue for me, Graves, when I watch Warcraft, I just
want to play it again.
So I need to kind of, I have to limit my time watching Warcraft because you cannot be bit
by the bug again.
Good suck back in.
Yeah.
They're looking for, either he's going to go for the gold miner, he's going to go for
the red spot.
Red spot is too good to ignore.
This should stand out like a lighthouse to people for sure.
He's going to pull the ogre lord in order to disable spell casting, it's a trick he learned,
but he didn't do it right.
The second thing you can do is to do a surround.
This is not a surround though.
So it's going to take him a long time to creep, very awkward, and he's going to light up his
ghouls for a shockwave.
This is very bad.
And Tyler is not far.
It sounds like you're opposite casting, what are you doing, literally every single action.
He's going to lose an abomination to creeps!
I did air coil! Oh, this is a disaster!
Oh, if Tyler was a bit slower, if Tyler was a bit more active with his units here, he could have, potentially...
I think he can steal Nets.
I have a really good flank.
Does he have more vision?
It's daytime. They see each other. They're just...
We're kinda stunlocked.
And Tyler doesn't react.
You're just doing something else.
Tyler has a tauren right now.
He's also got one spirit walker upgrade. He could disenchant.
Good to use against the Howl of Terror. Two ghouls to kill for free.
But the creeps are still alive!
Tyler's raider is turning around, he's going into a very awkward choke.
Luckily for him he has a Town Portal, things get really bad.
He's also got a Heal Scroll if he remembers to use it on the Targifton.
Spirit Link not yet dispelled by Hera. Nice Heal Scroll timing.
Death Knight very low, Farsier cannot get nuked here.
Tyler has the Town Portal out and he does!
Perfect timing with the Town Portal out, he killed many units.
didn't lose all that much and crucially drops under 50 population while his expansion is finished.
If Tidewan heals up from the Voodoo Launch and then gets in position to defend his expansion,
he's in a fantastic spot. But Hera is not out of the game yet. His hero levels are getting bigger
and bigger. He's got a lot of destroyers and he's setting up to expand once again. We have an
acolyte moving out right now. It's a forced melee in this patch. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes it do be like
like that. He still doesn't have berserker upgrade, right? So, yeah, what kind of could
have gotten that at this point? These days the overlay shows the upgrade, so that's
kind of nice. No berserker, no troll regeneration. One attack upgrade for Ghouls, which Hera
has zero off right now, being used aggressively. A tiger shows up, shows his presence, did
lose a bunch of peons. So he's not mining from the expansion right now, is over 50
There is a play where Harry can play TP hit and run style, but he has not yet mastered this type of strat
Tyler turns his back to hair up and hair up because of the night vision doesn't see it
It's better just to finish them
So your army stops bugging and fighting the creeps and Tyler does go and finish it now
That's Torrent chief to level five man. That is that is so crazy worst on three is one of the best spells in the game
Sing Sing Oh
I thought you go shockwave
He's been having war stamp most of the game
Shockwave is usually what you use when you have a very tanky army that has low DPS like mass grunt raider
Maybe codo and and war stamp is what you use when you play with glass cannons like walkers head hunters or wyverns windriders
It also has the
Upgrade from going for like 23 the level and they they changed it recently, but it used to be I think it's five seconds done
It was like 3, 4, 5 or maybe 2, 3, 4 big AoE stun.
It gets bigger, it does more damage, 75 damage, and it's like a 4 or 5 second stun on all
the units and heroes.
It's pretty crazy.
It's so insane when you listen to those numbers from like a dollar perspective.
Yeah, I know, it's crazy.
Like basically War Stump is Titan to Ravage in a medium area.
Yeah, big, better even, it's like 5 second cooldowns on me.
I think it's seven or six seconds.
Oh, a level two, a level three Spirit Wolves
cancelling the gold miner, at least getting it very, very low.
He did click on it, so it's not gonna auto target
to the acolytes.
Hera with three destroyers.
If he does triple the Vowry,
he's gonna get experience for it.
Now he's gonna kill both.
Oh, that's a lot of XP.
Would you prefer two heros, level five,
or Hera's, let heros level sweating?
Five five is better.
but 433 promises better in the future
because the upgrades for FSTC do not matter
earthquake and reincarnation do nothing in the fight
but right now it's better for Tyler
these are the huge power spikes of level 3 abilities
Tyler is
I mean this is just like stunlocks in a city for her
if you find it
this is bats coming
kind of a weird start
to the fight, there's zerk upgrades here, there's a howl of terror
Bats are not yet exploding, War Stomp actually only hits death knight.
Now he's in a good position, chain lightning is big.
We're circumfiting ghoul though instead of targeting the flying units.
That rider is spirit linked but is not unstably concocting, he didn't see it.
No, the Lich! The Lich is really low!
War Stomp locks out the death knight from poiling and the target fire takes him down.
Hera had a tiny window to coil but he didn't get it.
If he actually cancels all of his units, can he remake from the tavern?
Yes, if he cancels all of his units, he can remake Lich right now.
His destroyers are still relatively uncontested by anti-air.
It's not over yet for Hera, but he needs to rehire his Lich so he can get more DPS.
His Bitlord is doing a lot of damage, but he's getting taken out as well.
Farsi or Mele, he tries to go for the Bitlord, there's no mana to coil him.
Now there is mana to coil him!
Oh my god, I think Hera is still doing well in the fight.
his destroyers don't have a lot of counter.
Let's see what Tyler is making right now.
He's making a raider.
He ran out of gold in the main base.
He's only mining with four peons.
Hera is also only mining with four acolytes,
even though he's got like nine there.
What's going on here?
I don't even know what you're doing.
It's going for a third XP expansion, actually.
That's what it's doing.
Oh, OK.
I think Tyler, as well, should probably
pull some lumber peons to do other things.
It's gonna get his clarity cancelled by troll trappers. It's actually not good. That's it's better not to do that
It's gonna what are you supposed to make against this?
It's our trailer headhunters. You can make bats and use them
You can have lightning orb, which he doesn't have yet. Basically, you could just ignore the destroyers too and try to target the death knight
simply because there's like no meat shield and yeah he's like the only
ground unit yeah those are stories are not gonna kill FSTC oh nice it's there
on the destroyer yo you have a destroyer and a titer
you see how the destroyer got pulled forward nope yeah I was actually
wondering where the hell that came from even so this happens when you went snare
When you ensnare an air unit and that air unit has a ground unit directly below him
then it pulls the destroyer to your raider. If there is space below it pulls to
where the destroyer is right now. So based on whether the undead has a unit
below its destroyer it could either go to ground where it is or get pulled to
1500 range towards the raider. It's kind of a bug of sorts or maybe like a feature.
Feature. Yeah, it's a feature now.
They both have 0 gold at the moment. They can't even max out.
He braids lumber? No, right? No.
Tyler's sitting on almost 3,000 right now.
Tyler got rid of his cloak of shadows, which is good, because his Torrentchiefton was occasionally going passive when he couldn't hit.
And then his army loses endurance aura when he's invisible.
Tyler said 50 population has got more than enough lumber ever.
It's making a bad rider. The wolves are continually attacking acolytes. It's a good play
Hera is remaking his lich from the altar. Wait, hold on
Where's the witch? Yeah
His lich from the altar and then he unsummoned the altar and now it's gone and now he's no lich
And he wanted to retrain the lich from the middle, but his statues are getting caught
This is a huge blunder. His lich would have been back already if he just let it finish
What are, what are live bets on this?
Dude that's, that's crazy, what is it?
And now Tyler is chasing down his units, there's a War Stomp on the death side, he's
getting targeted, Raider comes in, uh, Coyle, and there, that's almost a Surround, ALMOST
a Surround!
Does he have another ensnare?
Nope, not quite yet.
He could have War Stomp, but he didn't use his cooldown, head to the now targeting destroyers.
This looks very good for Tyler, I think we're going to have a 1-1.
Pit Lord getting attacked. It's almost a surround.
It's almost a surround.
The story is getting attacked. The war stamp on a single Pit Lord.
Level 6 on the Farse here. He could go earthquake or chain lightning.
He actually hits chain lightning level 3. Doesn't care for the Alts.
Now here's one thing that's working for Hera.
He didn't waste money on the Lich. He has an expansion that Tyler doesn't know about.
What does Tyler smell this? Does he know what's going on? He might just shoot through his
wall expansion, so he might take it slow and easy here, thinking that he's still in a better term.
He wants to rehire the Lich. Lich is finally back, that orb of corruption. But look at the
health and mana on Death Knight and Lich. They're depleted. What they need is a little spa retreat,
a statue that's double healing, health and mana.
Harrow may even have to give up this expansion.
He's got a little ninja expansion that Tyler doesn't know about.
I think standing his ground here is a mistake.
Tyler has enough power to win on Blight against the Spirit Tower.
This is what I know, it's like in Harrow's position,
I think Harrow doesn't realize that giving this base up is like a potential win condition.
Yeah.
He feels like he loses his base and it's over.
Yeah, and I think it's better for him to have full health, full mana.
You can camp his Black Citadel at home and make sure that he has mana.
Yeah, let's just get attacked. He has Coil. He has Coil. He uses it.
He chose his favorite. Let it be known that Hera chose his Lich Queen
when the Bitlord and Lich were low.
GG.
He, Tyler One, makes the equalizer.
Wow.
So impressive.
I thought it was done at like nine minutes.
What would you say is are the best moves Tyler made here,
sing sing to come back into it considering he thought it was over
uh i actually think hera made the mistake of walking up and giving him a chance to fight
because hera fought tyler at his peak of his power when he could have just sat back and
got a few more units out but instead he gave the fight to him and then he got like knitted
everywhere he got chased down and then he lost his expansion oh my like everything went on
and then his lich got fucked up what did he do what did he actually do like he okay he played
So he lost his lich, then eventually he retrained it in altar when he had the awareness to do so.
Then he realized, actually, happy, or Grubby told me, or the way that happy does it, or the way you should do it,
you should not wait for the altar revive, instead you should revive at the tavern.
So then you first need to cancel it in the altar, and then you go to the tavern and hire it.
But by that time, he no longer had control of being at the tavern.
Tavern, so then until you actually got to hire it from the Tavern, you shouldn't even
cancel it.
And he even unsummoned his Altar, and I think that maybe something I taught him as well
because this is what Happy does, at some point in the game, Undead cannot play the game
anymore if they lose their Lich, so you just unsummon your Altar, you get back 90 Gold
and 25 Wood, because if you lose a hero, you know you're going to retrain it from Tavern
anyway or you lose the game.
But that's high level optimization thinking.
this elo, which is good, it's like top 30% of the three champions, but it's not top 1%,
you could just alter retrain and people aren't as efficient at closing out the game early.
So that would have been much cheaper and better.
I feel like Tyler was still in a favorable position though, regardless of that mistake,
no?
Or do you think that was like the one mistake that actually turned the tide?
I think Tyler saw the really good spots.
He just kept finding Hedda on the map.
It's so good when you're a little bit ahead
and you have Raiders, Raiders OP.
And then that lasts for way too long.
You know, Raider and Snare used to last 20 seconds in 2003.
20?
20 seconds.
What?
I'd risk you someone.
Cool down 12 seconds, duration 20 seconds.
You could Perma and Snare keep them in jail almost two units
at the same time.
What's the numbers now?
Now it's nine second duration with a cool down
16 seconds. It's horrible. Okay. It's horrible. That sucks. Orc underpowered. Yeah, so weak.
Every time you cast it, two units die. So weak. Dude, you have that dude with the hammer.
Everything is stumblocked forever with that guy. True. I like that guy. That's a good guy.
You kicked my butt at least.
Yeah, you outmighted me, but you can't outmight or five seconds done.
Wait, is it only five seconds? Yeah, I think it's five seconds on the cubes.
really? It feels so much longer. At least not 20 seconds. How was that possibly balanced back
then? It wasn't. You know, Stormbolt used to work on buildings. You could walk up and do a 300
damage Stormbolt on a building. Wait, will the building stop producing while it's stunned?
I don't know. I don't know. I don't remember. Okay, a cool mechanic actually. Like frozen breath
from the from the philosopher. Yeah, yeah. Game lobby is up. The final map is gonna be
autumn leaves. I saw someone asking chat, is this good for orc or undead? I don't know
what the top level psychology on that is anymore. The philosophy, let's say. But in my opinion,
this is a good map for orc in the early to mid game. And in fact, I think this is a good
map for Orc in general. It's very difficult to take a fast expand for Undead. It's difficult
to evade your opponent on this map as an Undead. So if an Orc plays a high octane pressure
game, good for Orc. Now if you're wanting to play Blade Shadow TC style, I don't think
you like this map as much because it's hard to find mid to late game creeps to get high
levels on the turn shift.
Well, I think Tyler will play farce here again, seems like he has that as his favorite opening
no matter what.
But yeah, he mixed it up from game one to game two, so I mean it worked better second
game, so probably he might go for the same, especially if the map kind of leans into that
as well as you just explained.
So, but Hera, I mean considering what he thinks that Tyler is not that really good of a player,
this is a bit of a hit for Hera.
But those map advantages always assume that Undead plays passive, no?
Like he's just not doing that.
Like he's playing as if he's Orc on his Undead.
He's just going forward, fighting, deathcoiling, keeps, workers, everything.
It's not like he's fast expanding ever.
Going to do map intro when both players are ready.
You guys will be back in 15 seconds, we're going to start the game.
Alright, the autumn leaves is the final map to decide who will advance to the upper bracket,
semi-finals, best of three between Hera and Tyler won.
No matter what, both of these players will play again in the lower or upper bracket,
coming up in the third or fourth match, but this will determine a lot about who has a
good chance to advance forward in this tournament.
And basically, the person that wins this match also wins another 500 prize money because
it takes double loss in a row in order to not get prize money in the one-on-one bracket.
And if we could see this game we could also talk about it.
Yeah, I'm watching it. It's us you.
You're going to grab it please.
Oh yeah, yeah, okay. I got you man. Here we go.
Thank you.
Let it be known that Viper is a fan of seeing the games he's casting.
the secret is that I'm a fan of someone that has knowledge control on the camera because he knows
what to look at instead you got me it's gonna have to do did you know like the tiny details from
like 25 years ago all these weird things that is completely useless but fun facts I think you have
some knowledge but actually I've been thinking of getting some coaching myself watching death
I'm thinking like I kind of want to see what that would be like to get coached on my human, not my main and to get someone that stands on every little detail that stands his ground on any imperfections.
I've never received coaching in Warcraft 3 and I would unironically be able to learn a lot from someone like Death Note or Starbuck as like a refresher.
But yes, I still know the game. Have you ever received coaching in A2 Viper?
not really know it's more like you you just scream with someone on your level
and you kind of just trade information back and forth right that's more of it
do you feel like if you got coaching from someone like that knows a race better
than you would you be able to give up on your perceived knowledge of the race and
just surrender to his opinion I think so I think I made that face where there's
people that I trust that could teach me something. I think it's nice to kind of
get like a refresher from the new guard. Okay. That see the game differently. And I
think that'd be nice. One request from my for my my back end. Can we get a color
refreshment on the webcams? And secondly, a request to Tyler whether this peon
will ever get to work somehow this peon wants to only return his lumber to Great
Hall and he's just not going to do anything. Anyway, Tyler said stop looking
my peons you pervert so I guess I will. Tyler comes into harass here took only the item from the
claws of attack and didn't get the rest. Herak got his full 1.7 level so he's ahead in exp
but his tech is a little bit late because he pulled a lot of goals.
A little bit dancing back and forth again I mean so far Tyler has not been able to steal creep
Yep.
Oh, he might still be here.
Ooh.
He got a skeleton.
Is that a skeleton now, yeah?
Yep.
12 XP.
Harold is losing a lot of HP on this death knight here.
Yeah.
He was actually at decent opening again.
That one ghoul is going to stay.
Oh, with your body blocks.
Yeah.
Put him in a 3B.
Oh, and then you got it anyway.
It's fine.
OK, good start for Tyler 1.
He's almost going to get another skeleton again.
Yep, there it is.
Another 12 XP from the skeleton.
that's two skeletons in the ghoul.
Hera did creep more, has more items,
but overall I would count this as a good start for Tyler1.
And it looks like Tyler is doing the same opening
as he did last game, so I mean, it works, why it changed?
We don't know yet if he's gonna go for Doctors and Torrents
or Raiders and Walkers.
I think this is a Raider Walker strat map for sure.
Kind of suffering from not splitting his units
across different sides of the forest.
I was trying to decide going left or right,
in the middle of the road. Not a good idea.
Hera smells blood. He could double coil it
like he did in the first game, or he could try to trickle in some auto attacks.
Oh!
I can't. Oh, not nice enough.
No, that one's in trouble.
Did you teach Hera how to body block the right angles?
He said he doesn't need to know.
Like, he said he already knows.
like he wanted to learn surrounds but he said he already knows from a we two and to be fair
he did it pretty well without being taught he was also one of my few students that after being
shown how to surround immediately landed it within five seconds of being shown so he was kind of
correct at that okay so who did show him i just showed surround it says but body blocks he said
is this warfrets uh it's a lot of idle time right he's chasing this one proet hunter for like
Pretty much the entire map, like a second level almost now.
Could Tyrone have dived the camp there and tried to get killed?
Yeah, yeah, he could try and it's just quite...
Yeah, he can always coil and finish off.
I think chasing Hentantus and killing them is worth it,
but not if you've missed the actual Orc army for so long,
because you know they're going to creep something with that certainty that you are not ever going to find their real army.
So I'd be happy with that as Tyrone, because he got the whole natural camp.
Very heavy ghoul usage again by Hera. Anytime that you're occupying ghouls while you have a headhunt there, you're using military units against units that are hybridic, military and economic.
Hera ghouls are not just tier 1 melee, they're also lumber harvesters. So with that extensive ghoul usage, we don't have a slaughterhouse again very, very early.
It's not the worst time, but it's just that little bit delayed.
Is the Starhouse what you always want him to build more safe?
Yes, it's a bad location. Terrible, horrible in fact.
Oh, rude.
Death Knight finding the Hathantees now is good news for Hera. This is exactly what you want.
Basically within immediately finding level 3 for himself, he ran into Tyler. That's pretty much optimal.
Almost a steal, right? That was not a steal by Tyler?
No, I don't think so. I'm still early.
You had chain lightning too, you could have tried to use it.
So where's it though, if you only kill one ghoul? Or are you in the creep?
Oh, absolutely. That creep was level 5, so it gives like probably 70, 80 XP or something.
So you steal it, you get it, they don't get it, so it's more than 100 XP swing.
If you chain lightning a creep, will it also spread to like Harus units or does it stay
only at the...
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
So you get a little bit of extra collateral damage.
This is a huge steal, by the way.
Tyler's playing some League of Legends optimal creep stealing as well.
This actually helped him to understand how that works on Warcraft 3.
Enemy jungle creeps are always worth more than your own because you're denying them while
at the same time being productive.
So stealing an orange and walking back here would be perfect for Tyler.
like that's exactly what he's doing. Hera starting to creep is natural. It's
time it can be aggressive with his first unit. He did opt again for the map
control type of build with Raiders and Walkers, but he doesn't have any Walkers
yet. The first Walker was just about to pop and he did really good usage of the
Spirit Link in the previous game. So yeah, I still like where Tyler is headed here,
but I also think once again if they are in even terms and it comes down to the
Am I throwing?
Yeah, I'm at the tavern.
Oh my god, mana damage.
One Nova for a headhunter, one chain lightning for a ghoul.
Slightly favorable for Hera.
He does a random coil nova.
Okay, not random.
He kills a headhunter with coil nova, but then Snare gets the statue here.
Another coil on a headhunter kills it.
Statue goes down.
It's a firefight.
Many casualties on both sides.
Tyler just got his level 2 TC.
open with aura which is a farming choice where you don't have any spells goes for a bat and snare on the
lich this was not good something that would have been better to ensnare ghouls but herob takes the bait
starts a fight with his ghouls are surrounded by a turn shifted there's a pretty good war stump
and he's losing his head on to some raiders as well let's let's let's no deathquare right is no
mod i think oh my god no he's lacking 20 mana for a deathquare too huge war stump going to work
on the ghouls now.
Looks like a really good fight for Tyra still.
Yeah, that was good.
Hera also has a huge bank.
He's getting ghoul frenzy ready.
One of the things you often don't want to do
is when you're very close to a crucial upgrade
that improves your units a lot, like ghoul frenzy,
is to use ghouls a lot
right before that upgrade comes out.
Because even if you get a good fight,
it would have been even better if ghoul frenzy finished first.
He has it now. He still has seven ghouls.
so they can still be used. He picks up Orb of Corruption, Healing Potion, Mana Potion on Death Knight,
so Hera is getting himself ready for the attack.
He's also got Destroyer Upgrade Building with two statues on the field.
Currently, one of his statues is not healing Mana yet,
so he's missing out on a lot of bonus Mana regeneration and he didn't notice it.
I'm expecting Hera to go to the center of the map and to pick up a third hero,
but he can't do that if Tyler's controlling the area.
Even now, Tyler's also expanding behind this.
There's the Bitlord.
And it feels like I've been just repeating the previous game so far.
Yeah, a hyper aggressive play by Hera before his destroyers are on the field is not a good
idea.
He forgot his statues!
A huge war stop gets every single goal!
There is no anti-air by the way.
Destroyer morph here should be huge.
another stomp yeah Tyler forgot to sparse here there's no empty air here no
headhunters is he making any headhunters no no headhunter no Codo
destroyers are dominating here there's many grunts on the field and the
destroyers are just doing so much another warstone but there's no follow-up
deathite gets level 4 this is actually really good for Tyler if you got his
farce here why is he making guns by the way he he sees all the ghouls and he
things I don't want headhunters so he makes grunts because they feel tanky he
believes that you need a tanking unit in front but it's very bad on those beet
ghouls well yes and no it depends on damage types they don't but yeah micro
a little bit don't they just kill them yes and no it depends on ghoul frenzy
and whether you're war stamping in front but the problem is if you go grunts
they're just such a kill target for destroyers to walk us go down this looks
It's really good, Fahera.
On grunts, grunts are also really good when you spear link.
Not against destroyers, both walkers and grunts get countered by destroyers.
So the only way where you would want to be making grunts and walkers against Undead,
any time past the 6 minute mark, is if you're very confident that your standing anti-air army
can already deal with the threat of destroyers, which in Titus' case wasn't true.
If he also has six heads on his two raiders and a kodo, it's fine to buffer a little bit with grunts because now you've got a destroyer answer
But without any anti air whatsoever and as far as here being forgotten as being one of the only anti air and having three damage items
That was a tough fight for him against newly morphed destroyers and hera chose a good time to fight
He played a very close contact game with tighter one and played around his destroyer upgrade
Yeah, Tyre didn't have Mon on his Farseer, but would that Farseer have changed that battle?
I don't think so, enough.
Okay.
And Sner on heroes only last three seconds without any chance to follow up.
It's not exactly going to be that valuable.
You want to pick off as many ghouls as possible here.
Spirit Link hits only TC and one grunt.
A walker is in a theory form.
There's a Nova and Coil on the headhunter.
That's exactly right, Hera's doing the right thing.
Taking down Anteira means that he's going to reign supreme with his destroyers.
She must be sleeping.
Tyler's pulling Pions out of gold.
He's never going to recover from this.
He's not holding into the fight.
Looks a little sloppy here.
The unit control for Tyler 1, not quite where it needs to be.
He's going to get a worst sample.
Many heroes, not bad.
His gold carrying Pions are getting into the fight as well.
little bit of attempt to target fire on the death knight as destroyers are just
too difficult of a unit to try and kill with the army that he has. Warstomp only
hits the dead lord. Hera really not committing a lot of units here but his
air units are gonna probably be enough.
Still a heel scroll on the death knight as well. Kodo is attempting to get away
but Hera targets it down that gets him in level up. Lich level three. Viper
What can Tyler do to still stay in this game?
Well, I can always stay, but the question is whether he should stay or not.
What's going on?
Oh, the Heal Scrolls save!
By Hera on the Pit Lord!
It was like the last half-second Heal Scrolls save.
Yeah, this feels like, I mean, fighting in an enemy base is always hard.
Oh, nice and snare. Could he jump and kill it?
Oh, nice job!
Pit Lord goes down, almost to surround on the Death Knight.
If that was actually a Peon surround on Death Knight, he dies right there.
The issue is his gold income in the last couple of minutes, he's been 1 PM mining away.
So yeah, he's pretty far behind and it's going to take a long time for him to get his numbers
back up again while Harrah still has a fully functioning base.
So and Harrah just expanded, starting expansion now as well, so yeah this is going to be tough.
Immediate rehire of the Bitlord by Harrah, he wants to keep the pressure up, he's also
Also got a bunch of ghouls on lumber that he could pull.
He's got a decent lumber bank right now.
Looks like he's going to do exactly that.
Oh my lord, he's bringing every single ghoul, allowing his lumber to get used up for whatever
purpose and basically all inning himself.
His heroes are healing from statues, he's sending Death Knight to the shop.
Ideal here would be invulpot to prevent your worst outcome and also a heal scroll.
Is he going to be patient and wait for both?
Looks like the answer is yes.
Tidocrept, a very small camp, a little consolation price, his expansion was cancelled, his Voodoo
Lounge is not killed, which was a blunder by Hera, so it continued to be used by Tidor,
who was making Raiders and Headhunters.
Got level 3, 4 and 2 against 3-3.
Hera's ahead in every single way.
account, level, active consumes availability, an expansion, tech tier of tier 3 against
2.
It would take a miracle for Tidre to get the win here against Hera.
Hera is pushing for the kill and it's a great timing of the attack.
Like Herald sets himself up for really big stomps.
Yeah, stomps were good.
Good target fire on the Raiders though. They offer control so they should be taken out early.
Ghouls are spread here and there. That's a good war stamp.
Tyler moves onto the shop. His headhunters are blocking his Farseer. Farseer's in front.
Looks like maybe he could be attacked. This is an ethereal walker
that can be attacked by destroyers. Looks like Hera's aware of it.
Will give the order 66 on the walker.
There it is. It goes down. That's a level up for the Pit Lord as well. He's level 3 now.
He picks Cleave level 2 instantly. There's a coil nova on the backline.
Every single anti-air unit is killed.
A final petulant war stamp to stave off the end result comes out.
But Hera kills the Tarantjiften.
GG's in the chat.
GG.
Honestly, way more competitive than I was expecting though.
So, could we just type that? Yeah, Hera shows.
Shows what you can do.
Hera shows up in in such a moment
and gets the 2-1 against Tyler. This is Hera's worst matchup
but as he equipped earlier against Tyler yesterday
you only have bad matchups. You're win rate is 40% against everything.
So we have fair enough
trash talk to the one that trash talks as well. That's
That's a Hera 2-1 victory, so he'll be advancing to the upper bracket semifinals, which is going to be a best of three as well.
Hera will wait for the winner between Maxim and Simply, whereas Tyler will drop to the lower bracket and will play against the loser of Maxim and Simply.
Now, I don't know what you guys know about these players, but I'm going to assume not that much.
Maxim is a penalty rifle player around 1160 mmr and simply is a demon hunter Naga player
with bears at 1160 mmr. They're dead even. Who do you guys give the edge? I'll ask you
first Viper.
I'm going to have to say Maxim, he has been my travel buddy to Red Bull tournaments essentially
because he lives pretty nearby. So we end up on the same flights often. So yeah, it's
a fun coincidence that he's here as well. I mean, I think at this elo maybe human is
a bit more straightforward and easier to play. I was not at the
ill of our sensing as that I mean, but like, where Maxim and
simply are. So maybe it's like that. But then again, simply
did some relatively competitive games against Hera as well
yesterday. So I don't know, hopefully a very close set, maybe
another two one will be good for the show.
Zinxing.
Which one was the pilot rifle player? I think that one's
winning.
Maxim.
Yeah, because at that level, when you don't have to worry
about unit counters or composition or like anything at all. And you simplify your gameplay
to only playing Pala rifle. It makes it so easy. Like all your resources in your brain
just go to my coin units and finding and nothing else. Easy win, right? Despite that,
Maxib still says he has not enough resources like mental processing power. He wants to
end games before minute 12. He won't play tier three and he gets too stressed when the
game goes long. Yeah, that's unlucky. Unlucky. Doesn't have enough time.
It's the dead life, man. The dead life? Yeah. He normally sleeps at like 8pm. And yesterday
he stayed up for the show until 11. Like 8pm? Yeah. What? He starts his stream at 7. He
will end at like 12 noon normally. So that's quite a schedule. We placed him early here
so that he has a chance to do his part and then do his dad part after that.
Sing Sing and the Viper hope to catch you guys back again for another series
sometime today or tomorrow. Thank you for joining me. Thank you for having us.
Thank you Grave, it was fun as always. And best of luck with the rest of the show.
Thank you Gigi's. See you Gigi's, bye bye. Alright guys there you have it.
Hera wants to cast this match? Yeah? Well, then he's in.
Let's see, who did I have lined up for this? I was hoping to get Ampy coming in as well, but I don't think I heard back from him.
Let me see.
Ampy, wait, I was hoping that I didn't express those hopes into the universe.
Oh, Ampy is also ready? Okay, great. That's awesome. Because I was hoping and I didn't ask him.
Yeah, like sometimes you have to manifest things, but it helps if you also actually ask a person,
but I guess someone else asked him, so that's great. We hope that it happened!
So we're gonna have Hera, we're gonna have Ampy as well, we're gonna have a trial cast.
That's gonna be a lot of fun. Let's see, is the Hera in the room with us yet?
yet no, then you know what guys, I'll take a break, we'll be back in a minute.
On Saturday the 16th and Sunday the 17th of May in 2026, the Alter of Champions 1-1 and
main tournament will be played out.
Our 8 contestants are ready to go at it in 1-1.
The winning team from Friday's clan war has their picks of who they want to face in the
brackets.
With the winning captain having first pick and then they delegate the second and third
pick to the most deserving players of their team.
What happened yesterday and soon I'll show you today's brackets.
Most matches are best of three with the upper bracket finals, the lower bracket finals and
the grand finals being a best of five.
The grand finalist that comes from the upper bracket finals will have an advantageous map
selection system.
$8000 is up for grabs in this Alter of Champions 1-on-1 tournament with the champion taking
$3500.
The prize pool was sponsored by Blizzard and this event was made possible by all of you
guys.
participating streamers and all the cocasters moderators and everybody that
helped. I'm Grubby and this is the Altar of Champions the 1-on-1
tournament. Let's play!
On Saturday the 16th and Sunday the 17th of May in 2026 the Altar of Champions
1-on-1 main tournament will be played out. Our eight contestants are ready to go
at it in 1-on-1. The winning team from Friday's Clanmore
has their picks of who they want to face in the brackets.
with the winning captain having first pick, and then they delegate the second and third pick to the most deserving players of their team.
That happened yesterday, and soon I'll show you today's brackets.
Most matches are best of three, with the upper bracket finals, the lower bracket finals, and the grand finals being a best of five.
The grand finalist that comes from the upper bracket finals will have an advantageous map selection system.
$8,000 is up for grabs in this Alter of Champions 1-on-1 tournament, with the champion taking $3,500.
The prize pool was sponsored by Blizzard, and this event was made possible by all of you guys,
the 8 participating streamers, and all the co-casters, moderators, and everybody that helped.
I'm Grubby, and this is the Altar of Champions, the 1-on-1 tournament. Let's play!
On Saturday the 16th and Sunday the 17th of May in 2026, the Altar of Champions 1-on-1
main tournament will be played out. Our 8 contestants are ready to go at it in 1-on-1.
The winning team from Friday's Clan War has their picks of who they want to face in the brackets,
with the winning captain having first pick and then they delegate the second and third pick
to the most deserving players of their team. That happened yesterday and soon I'll show you
today's brackets. Most matches are a best of three with the upper bracket finals, the lower
bracket finals and the grand finals being the best of five. Was that enough? Or should I play
play one more time. It just helps a lot. If I replay it a couple of times, I can actually
eat a piece of cake, my space cake. It is not actually any substances inside. It's
just pandan cake. It's green, therefore it looks like space cake. I don't mean like
space cake, space cake. Void cake. Yes, there we go. All right. We've got an awesome team
with us to come and co-cast here. Ampy is still setting up. Oh, they're both here. Excellent.
Well, then I'm just going to go ahead and introduce them.
With me are joining Ampy, an invitational participant of the OnlyFacts Invitational,
an excellent World of Warcraft classic player who also takes a liking to Warcraft 3.
Ampy, welcome to the show.
Wow, good morning.
It's good to be here, Grubby.
I'm super excited to see this.
My own Padawan simply playing today.
I'm hoping to see some great bare gameplay.
I'm glad to get you for this,
since you guys knew each other,
you even coached him a little bit.
We'll talk a little bit more in a sec.
We also have the man of the hour,
the victor of the opening match of the one-on-one bracket,
picking Tyler won and getting a two-on victory here.
How do you feel?
What's up? What's up?
A little empty, a little grabby.
I feel great actually.
I didn't expect to win,
and I feel like I got another surprise on myself.
And also, Tyler needs to learn how to type GG, I think,
because, yeah, I think he's missing that one in this game.
That's OK, though.
Do you believe in typing GG if you think the game wasn't good?
I know, Ampy doesn't.
I don't either.
I think you should.
You never typed GG.
That's weird.
I think you should always type GG, probably,
just to signal the game's over.
So it's not like a drop, I resign, but fair enough.
Ampy never types it.
It became this mannerism in an RTS, but this happened decades ago, and the world changed.
It's become less friendly.
I'll be an example of it.
Technically, no need to.
I'll be.
I was going to say, I'm a good night off player.
I don't know if you're a good example for what a human should do or not do.
Let's just be real.
That's true.
I'm a night off player.
I'm blind. That's horrible. I can't even see my screen. Yeah
He came from the mental hospital guys. I think she's running from the cast lab. It's really cool
Also, when you beat me in the ladder, you got completely lucky that I was not in tournament mode
You would definitely get dusted in tournament
Okay, my track was falling on deaf ears, but that's okay
Maybe it's the best way to ignore people like you, Hera.
Just don't credit me for that.
The thing is, I just came from a Tyler match and he'd be yelling.
I'd open my mouth and he'd be yelling back at me.
So it's a different vibe in here, you know?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Tyler goes crazy with the trash talk.
I didn't get to catch the games.
It was so early for me.
I'm going to have to re-watch.
Uh, well.
You're in the play.
We heard they're in, uh, in band modes right now.
And so simply and Maxim are going over the map, simply band echo aisles,
a maximum band, hammerfall and autumn leaves.
I personally think that's funny because in my opinion, pallet and rifle is
very good on both hammerfall and autumn leaves.
Uh, but Maxim, I think he's removing what's actually, uh, good for him
and leaving big maps like Springtime and Northern Isles that are worse for him up.
So this goes to show that Map Veto process can be overrated, unless of course I'm wrong and Maxim knows something I don't.
Well I feel like a lot of it comes down to like how people are picking the maps.
I was picking them a lot based on like feeling and also win rates on ladder,
which is like not the most accurate metrics, let's be real.
So maybe Maxim has a similar metrics that may be not so accurate?
Did you dive into your ladder stats in O'Hara or anyone else's?
Do you do any study on other players?
I had a few people do the studying for me. They show me the numbers and then I can kind of look at them.
But no deep dive, no.
Shallow dive into the stats. Who helps you? Is it just like viewers, mods?
In mods, yeah. One guy in particular I think went above and beyond.
But I had a few people. Very grateful for them.
Is it secret or you want to shout out mods?
I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. Not the Warcraft Neo, but the other Neo.
All right. Ampe, you are one of the three participants,
one of my statisticians said, you're one of three participants
of all the 23 participants of Grubby Invitational so far
that has played all four races at some point.
One other being Turin, and the third one I forgot.
Thoughts on all the four races?
Yeah, so actually, I have a below 15% win rate
on two of them, so I would say I have a good read
on all of the races, I've played them all.
Enough to understand, I'm glad I'm playing night elves.
Every time I didn't play night elves, I missed my blue juice,
my trees and the wisps, it's so much easier, man.
Like, I don't know how you guys do it.
Pull in your ghouls, send them home.
You have to spam spells all the time.
Like I just run around and I hit stuff.
And it's so good, man.
Like I can't stray from the bears.
I'm sorry, I did it.
It's, I don't know.
So, Hara, like you, have you tried any of the races, Hara?
I have not played a single game in my life.
I don't know, I feel like I'm being pulled
into the dark side.
I think it is.
I think it would help, honestly,
I can get to learn what the other races are doing, but I just have such a short time window
and I did more of a content approach where I just streamed like 12 hours a day, which
is objectively bad for the event, but I think it was good for the content.
I just didn't have time.
Harry, you said that before and I saw the clip and it was very touching how much you
loved the game and saying that you were 12 out of 12 hours smiles per day, like we're
supposed to forget your little black hole moment a few days ago.
Is that a cope that you just played for fun or is your passion sometimes a double-edged sword
and it doesn't allow you to analyze as much as maybe some people thought you could?
No, no, no. Okay, what I mean by that, I didn't mean that I was always happy.
I just meant that for the most part, it was a lot of fun to just stream the game.
But that, like the moments that I'm feeling down and I'm like upset at the game,
that's part of the fun at the end of the day.
Because like that happened and then the next day I woke up and won like the tournament,
For example, we're like one around the tournament that's like a good journey
You know you appreciate the win more because you lost tonight after a multiple times
no joy without actually I
I
Not not having a tournament pressure or anything
But like I've played a lot and part of the Warcraft 3 experience is getting so frustrated
You log off for the day and you come back and you're extra motivated to you know
Next time you see tanker to like really stall out the game
you know and just like in order to just like no no just to waste their time
because they're not playing the same game as you and you're just like like
I'm gonna come back with a vengeance for these these freak especially random
players if you're out there you're playing random players to bully low e-load
noobs on on like weird off meta stuff I'm talking about you guys okay so you
should feel very bad if you spread your training time between four different
racists basically play on hard mode. No, it's because they
knowledge gap you so hard, man. I swear every every like random
player even at 1200 is just doing some crazy stuff, man.
Is this the world of Warcraft classic player talking about
knowledge gaps being a problem? Isn't that literally a knowledge
gap game?
It's not a problem. It's just frustrating.
That makes sense. You don't have a fundamental philosophical
problem with it. You're just no. No. Yeah, I'm mad because I'm
bad. That's all it is. Makes sense. Glad we could get that
in writing. Yo, Haram, do you guys want to join the game
yourself or am I just going to restream it to you? Um, I want
to join. Okay, I want to join the game name is the Discord
server in the map Vito channel. You've both. So you got
options. You can always look at my or request my PV if you
prefer it.
Is there are you just trimming that in discord?
Yeah, I would. Once the game begins, I will. Okay. Okay.
Just gonna change their colors to something reasonable. I
don't know what the hell they're doing. It's gonna be red and
blue. I change your colors.
Hope it's okay. And if it's not file complaint.
I'm going to set up soon.
What do you mean? Wait, waiting for off. You guys both want to join, okay. Hurry up.
No, I don't join. I don't join.
Oh, you're just going to watch me? Okay. All right, got it.
Yeah.
All right. Ampy, you need to restart your thing.
I'll just watch for this one.
All right, for the first one.
All right.
Anytime you can restart your W3 Champions.
Yeah, I saw like a little server problem playing.
All right, I'm gonna enter the map.
We're gonna start the game in 10 to 15 seconds.
Alright, let's go.
We've got the second upper bracket round 1 series of the day.
On the right side, we've got in the red, Maxim, no, it's on the left side.
We've got Maxim, aka LRSB.
I'm trying to remember what that stood for.
It was something about learn to read children books or something.
Like I think they have a bookstore, his wife and he, something like that.
He is a father, he's a husband, he's a variety streamer, he's got a big following in Germany
and he is very fond of playing the Paladin Rifle build.
He has decided to make the game strategically easier
for himself, dispensing with such needs
as scouting opponents, deciding to change unit
based on what you're against.
And instead, he's just gonna make Paladin Rifle bloodmage
and attack.
That's what we can expect from him.
It's a lovely certainty.
On the other side, the Super Mario 64 Speed Runner,
And simply, also has been known to play some good World of Warcraft, he was called Rage
Person there and only found Season 2 Invitational, that's where I got to know about him.
Friends with Ampi as well, he's playing as the Night Elves.
He was completely new to Warcraft 3, not even any engine experience if I remember correctly.
And he started by doing speedrun style practice, where he practiced his build order and saw
how fast he can get to things.
Eventually, he started learning more and more, but his progress was slow until Ampe, you showed him the ropes and the thing or two.
I did. I taught him about the Bears. Not I wasn't the only person there. I think he had a couple really solid coaches in his journey here that have helped him through.
I'm a different kind of coach, as a newb myself, so I was trying to cater to that experience
that I had last year, how it's super overwhelming as a starter player, and I was just focusing
on the key basics.
Well, I think you went a little beyond the key basics.
You also taught him about the staff of teleportation, staff of preservation thing.
He placed that so well, and it's just like an advanced trick that you taught him that
would normally say is beyond his elo but he actually adopted it extremely well and his hero
control also in the 4v4 yesterday was exemplary saving his demon hunter with staff and then
staffing back in after full heal. Yeah I was I was watching that I was super impressive proud of my boy
for pulling it off. Sorry for the late game share there with the two of you as I monologue
to start you both have a signal now yeah it's okay I let you finish everything so
on to get the inches out of the way and we have the demon hunter moving to the
center here it's interesting that night off creeps a little faster than every
other race due to that ancient of war I feel like that gives you a nice early
game advantage honestly I feel like it's pretty rivaled by human
militia creeping yeah if he goes for some big camps the only reason Maxim is
slower is because he deliberately delays his altar even more than Undead does
because that's just how the Palo Rifle build works. The extra blacksmith and
skipping footman is straight to rifles means your hero is low, is slow, but
you're quite right Ampy, it is rifle by Militia. There's a fake even on an Archer
attack. Wait, simply mind-gaming him is... This is crazy mind-gaming. That's insane, that's insane.
The Archer is really smart. But no reaction! You can only do an optical illusion if
someone has eyes and Maxime doesn't react.
Oh, does get baited, but I don't know if he's hit him.
Okay, he did militia. That's going to slow down his tech a little bit, I suppose.
I mean, if you're from Simpli's QV, all you're trying to do here is drain the
Pally, right? You're not even really worried about his, oh, the idle workers.
It's not that big of a deal. If this didn't hit his Tier 2 as well, it would be
catastrophic now it's just a little bit damaging and to answer your other
question yeah you want to mana burn the Paladin as much as possible though I'm
not sure that level one mana burn is quite enough to do the trick there
simply is doing a good job moving his ancient of war to the next camp this is
part of super thousand mmr by super mean over over a thousand mmr night elf
play initially it's difficult to manage all that stuff but it's very important
if you want to creep a big camp to get your ancient of war in secondary
locations ready for it and now he's going to heal his demon and I think he can take
the mercenary camp immediately if he sort of chooses.
That's going to huge it of a little bit of like pressure into going back to creep immediately.
I think that was really smart and really kind of threw Maxim off a little but not overdoing
it.
I think that's a cool way to approach the other game here.
I wonder if that's good enough.
What do you think Al?
I was going to say like I'm surprised even with level one I feel like he could just
just kind of bounce in and out right out of there like his vision and just keep
mana burning keeping tabs on the Pali because I mean his goal really it's
it's to creep but at the same time he's kind of just trying to stall for his
bear timing and mess with him enough that you know the Pali can't get critical
mass and like run him down too early I think I'm in check even with level one
it's nice I also know you're a fan of Keeper of the Grove second traditional
against human is actually to go with the Naga Sea Witch.
In this case, it's not a traditional matchup
because Maxim is playing Paladins and Rifles.
And so, Entango actually gets a lot more value
because normally, human has the spell,
but he's not gonna have it.
So if you and Tango focus fire the Paladin
or try and pick off Rifles,
Keeper has pretty decent value, I would say.
What do you think?
I definitely like Keeper.
I mean, I've been a fan of Keeper since I,
You know, I talked to an unkeeper a little bit going back to Warcraft 3, but I've since kind of
Learned about it and it's it's really nice against people who don't have to spell like you're saying that
Being able to cash somebody even just running across the map you pick up one rifle and leave
It's I don't know. I feel like you just eat out so much value over time with it
It's so annoying for the player as someone who hates playing against keepers
Good timing to the tier 3 for Simpli, he's going to prepare his master claw bears, shop
is a little exposed which is a weakness, orpoffen is important to the degree that this is a high
prio kill target, at the very least it's to the north of the base which is well placed
by Simpli. Both players get some absolutely huge items, Simpli gets a mana pot that would
be better spent on a panda than on the keeper, who has difficulty using his mana that fast,
he has done a lot of creeping and demon is almost level 4, in the meantime Maxim had
a pretty big error in his build order where he was initially going to be supply blocked
which would delay his blood mage, but he has since fixed the problem and is getting sick,
expied himself as well.
Paladin is Nion level 4, which will give him Devotion R at level 2, and once the blood
mage is out, expect Maxim to do an aggressive foray into Simply Space.
What's yours?
Maxim's been playing with Maxim in the team game.
I know that he loves the timing, as soon as he gets his level to be hero with the second
hero being lvl 1, I think that's the time he likes to talk and he tends to be really
aggressive right now, so expect him to dart forward and look for an engagement here.
I wonder if he's going to pull militia as well.
Have you had a chance to face Balarife all that much, Hera?
Yeah, I played a few times on the ladder and it's quite a strong strategy.
I understand of it of course not very much, but you want to basically avoid fighting them
in the center of the map and avoid fighting them in general if you can until you're strong
yourself so I guess in this matchup until the bears come out but right now I
feel like the powder rifle stride is really really strong in the next couple
minutes. Interesting tech here. Yeah he's hitting right before the... go ahead. I was
gonna say he's hitting right before the night off is even like he has bears but
but they're not quite there. Oh the entangle! It looks like he is trying to be
entangled hero focus here. Pretty bad micro here but simply is moving his units
forward a little bit also committing bears early is risky. The final mana on
Paladin has been removed. Now the Bloodmage has to give that mana. There's the transformation.
Wait, he can kill the Bloodmage, but there's an invulnerability potion. Nice bait by Maxim.
The German powerhouse is going to come forward with his Bloodmage and still, oh wait, there's enough
mana in one. Now he can heal the Bloodmage, but he doesn't. Maxim misses his window to do a Holy
Light save. Simply spot a Demon Hunter dropping low though. Is he quite aware of it? Yes, he was
baiting with it as well. Simply help this attack. He didn't kill a lot of units. It's minus one bear,
minus one blood mage. But guess what? Even though he killed a hero, that's 170 gold revival.
A druid of the claw, 255 gold. I don't think that was half bad for Maxim actually.
For Maxim? I'm surprised because he simply is going to have bears in like critical mass very
I mean he's got two lores producing. What is what is his upgrades eyes? Does he have actual bear form yet?
Yeah, we have bear form and no other upgrades. There's no wellspring no ultra vision
We've got one one now to one upgrades for Maxim and we have a completely dead skill in thorns
Even if you are going to not be having a lot of mana
This should still be force of nature and entangle as thorns does almost literally nothing
I guess some return damage from the Paladin, but this is a fully ranged army now
Now Maxim didn't do what he should be in this situation.
When he's serious about an attack, he should be bringing all his peasants.
He knows better than this.
He learned, but perhaps a bit of match stress.
Those peasants are gathering lumber for future generations that are never going to come to
fruition.
He should also have a heal scroll.
He's going to attack again without some of these extra tools.
Like you said, Master Claw Bears are here, and they're quite a good counter to rifles.
And Hera, what do you think?
I think this is a good fight for simply overall, but there's no juice in the moonwell, so that's something I guess in Maxine's favor, but as you can see the bears are a bit too strong, bloodmage goes down, and the rifles are shortly to follow there, but it doesn't have a bear back, which is really good.
Very cool tech by C3.
I'm sure he's gonna make it nighttime.
Yeah, making a nighttime would help a lot the Moonstone. It's only 50 gold.
Currently, it doesn't have the wherewithal to think about it.
The presence of mine, but the Demolon are so tanky. That's a Demolon with bonus 5.4 armor.
It's level 4 with evasion, level 2, there's an entangled Paladin.
Paladin has nothing to save himself! He's gonna get taken down!
Simply kills the Paladin and with that, it's the straw that breaks the camel's back.
Maxim in full, flies away, 25 population with no heroes.
Mario, 64, speedrunner, his speedrunning is way into this match with most likely a 1-0 lead.
And Ambi, question, the anti-magic potion tech.
Is that something that you were aware that simply had in his repertoire?
It's not something I ever taught him for sure.
I don't know, I didn't teach him that, but that's definitely something that is really
nice as DH can kind of get in the face of them and make sure you can not get reverse
mana burned.
Yeah, so he came up with that himself, which is super legit.
He's been thinking about this, he thought, what do I do against this style that I know
is coming?
He's going to steal the mana on my Demon Hunter, now it gets to level 5, you turn on
empty magic potion for 100 gold and for 10 seconds you can't be siphoned and even better you can use
it as an interrupt on the initial one simply on the warpath there are two arcane towers Maxim is
trying to suck him from behind that tower but he is going to have to call the game GG simply takes
the first map. Great play from Psyphthly I think I love the defense into straight counter-attack
Don't give Maxime any time, no rebuilding, no creeping, and I think that was the perfect way to just close up the game, but really well played from Simply there.
It's time to get a little nervous, Hera. The revenge guy coming for you, Simply. You might meet him in the upper bracket.
I have two things to say about that. Number one, I think Simply played a lot better than I thought he would play, honestly. I think he actually is a great player.
And number two, I kind of want Tyler to face PaloRifle.
So even though it's simply really good, I feel like it'd be funny if simply wins
and then Tyler has to deal with PaloRifle and the loser bracket.
Can you imagine?
Loser bracket T1 up against PaloRifle, he hates that strat.
It's just a perfect situation.
Oh, I thought you meant it would be therapeutic for him to put some old demons to rest
because PaloRifle got nerfed, he got better against it,
and so he could finally deal with those demons that he built up from last year
here and dispense of the PTSD by winning against a rival player, no?
Yes, but if he loses, oof, that's all you got to say, no?
Funny, yes.
Wow.
Let's see what the next map is going to be.
I'm going to be hosting that one.
Do you guys think you want to join for this one,
or are you just going to allow me to share the game four minutes in?
I feel like the share screen maybe at two minutes this time would be great.
I like it.
Yeah, I like it.
Also, I do no work in the mouth, so it's just you, Grubby, that makes… I like when you
work and I do nothing, Grubby.
That makes me happy.
All right.
Sounds good.
Soon this is going to happen as you're going to sit back.
Do you think you're still going to… when you run your Invitational for AoE 2, Hera,
Do you think you're still going to play games in between, or are you going to be fully committing
with the same investment of coaching to all the players?
Oh, no, I'm going to invest.
I'm going to copy and paste your exact tournament, but I might change the format a little bit.
But it's going to be a very similar format to what you have in terms of the style.
Because I think it's honestly a really successful way to do it, and with YDV from starting successful.
But I will play my own games in the meanwhile, just to showcase new players how games are
played and also do exactly what you did, which is play the style that I'm teaching.
We don't need that though. I can be the one that shows how the game is meant to be played.
You can rest.
Gravi, you think you're going to come in and win the tournament easily?
I have a roster of some really talented players.
You're not going to come in and stop them.
Gravi got 1,700, A2, really, really strong with the Ethiopians.
It's not going to be an easy format for you.
I'm just saying, Harap.
I'm happy to come and walk over my tournament. It's not going to happen.
I'm just saying, I got top 4% globally in AoE 2 ladder after just 2 months of casual practice while playing other games on the side.
You grind your ass off for a month in Warcraft 3, and you're only top 35% on a small platform, which isn't even 10% of the player base.
And somehow you're happy about where you go.
Like, how does that feel? I don't like double your age.
Damn!
Gravi, this is extremely unprofessional. Are you the host? What is happening right now? This is crazy.
He's right, but so am I.
One of the reasons why I was doing so down, like yesterday or two days ago, was because
my elo is so low.
I hate them, I elo is so low, I hate that.
I hate them.
I had higher hopes for you, too, but you're doing better than expected in the tournament
anyway.
Then we're going to enter the map, and it's going to be a little break, a little cooling
off we both need.
All right, here we go.
Do you guys have the screen share?
Is it the correct one?
Yep.
Looks good.
All right, nice.
Yeah, looks good.
Hoppin' in.
All right, Maxim again simply for the upper bracket round.
One, this is the second map, simply took the opening map
with some heavy power creeping on this demon hunter,
some fat mana burns, and a new anti-magic potion tech
that I had not known that he was capable of.
He's putting in the preparation.
I wonder if he dared to dream
that he would face Hera in the upper bracket finals
and he has something prepared there as well.
The upper bracket semifinals rather,
but it looks good so far.
Can you explain, for those who don't know in the chat,
not me obviously,
can you explain what the anti-magic potion is
and what it does?
It's a 100 gold potion,
Purchasable since tier 3 from the night elf shop
It makes you immune to both spells spell effects spell damage and magic damage
It can be removed by dispel such as one of negation destroyers priest dispel spirit walker shaman perch, etc
But if you don't dispel it then it doesn't allow you to even click the hero with coil or nova Wow
That's crazy
And he knew that just testing. Yeah
Am I correct?
As you can see the chat is really really strong.
Did I get everything, Hera?
I think you missed the fact that it is unaffected by Pit Lord's W as well, but that's okay.
You're not going to name everything obviously.
Yeah, thank you.
I couldn't get all the buffs in there.
Yeah, that's true.
AOE effects as well.
Thanks for the reminder.
Ampy, what do you think simply would want to change if anything?
Or do you feel like he can run a pretty regular recipe?
I feel like what he did was the cookie cutter, I mean, that's just what you do.
You bring out the bears and you just, you put them in bear form and you let them rip.
I just do it again.
I think he could maybe stick on the pallet in a little bit harder early on.
Before they get a couple rifles, it's just like, you know, a Pali and like three rifles.
I feel like they're very vulnerable for DHRs.
You have to be careful for not taking too much damage in DH, but I think that that's
really annoying for the Pali.
at least from my perspective, and it's fun to burn his mana.
So that's another perk.
If you had to choose one of two things,
one where you do level one or two Demon Hunter harass
and you keep repeating 50 mana burns,
or instead you power creep to level three
without even interacting with the human
and then hitting them with full minus 100 mana burns,
what do you think would be better?
I don't know the answer, I'm not testing you.
I kind of like doing early pressure
just to make sure they're not doing weird stuff.
And obviously, like, you know, in this, in this, we kind of know that, that, that he's playing a Pali rifle, but you wouldn't necessarily know.
So getting that early scout with the, you know, and making sure it's not a fast expand and while you're there, you, you make his man and go to zero, like a ha ha kind of thing.
You know, I think it's, it's great.
And then I mean, the early pressure also helps like against like beginner players as well.
Like just throw anything to throw someone off the game.
I feel like it's just really good.
Exactly, yeah
It's something you teach as well me we to her just creating contact early in order to get information
And possibly just disrupt it's better than when you have no handle on the game at all
And you're just doing your own thing for 12 minutes never realizing why you're losing
When someone was actually just playing something really greedy and unacceptable borderline illegal
Yeah, right like like I feel like if you showed up level one when when the Pali rifle is clearing that tusk arc
camp he could maybe pick off a couple militia you know there's definitely
opportunity to punish that that early you know I would say somewhat weak hero
we're laying on the militia it's just like that's just I've got a question here
the scroll is a beast on both sides here because it's such an early game I
think it's more like a mid to late game item because it's early game is it worth
selling that for like a fast attack or maybe like a heel scroll or something or
is it better to just keep the scroll of the beast for the fights scroll the
This is two attack upgrades worth for 45 seconds, which is about how long any fight could take getting two bonus
Attack upgrades for a timing of your choosing is such a powerful mechanic
Selling it is also a borderline illegal
Okay, well, I sell it every game. I know it's
Doesn't it not stack with with bear war
Correct. And so for night elf selling it is actually what you said
That's crazy. Yeah, you would want to sell it. So let's say the use case for simply would be to get a Naga
sewage at five minutes, which is now, walk to the human and immediately turn it on. So you need to
identify the difference between trying to do like a value usage, like Hera might want to use it at
10 minutes when it has 50 population. It feels almost like the denier on the Orgrimage but not
quite and certainly keeping it until 10 minutes to use it with your full 50 pop
army is good but you can definitely turn it on early with the Naga and demon and
you just get these like damage windows that doesn't allow someone to use Holy
Light because the cooldown doesn't match the DPS output so I'd love to see
simply use it here rather than selling it as for Maxim this is a game winning
item for Palo Rifle. However, the counter is a single-wiss detonate. He should just
pop it now simply. Once his arches are in range, he should keep pushing.
He should attack the main base and just pop it.
No, this is something that I've been trying to tell simply. He doesn't sense
weakness in his opponent. He doesn't go through the throat. He gets something like
this. The palli is super weak. No TP. He's gonna have to buy a health potion. He
He could just run at him and kill him.
But he's playing for the conservative option here.
Which isn't bad by any means, but you're potentially leaving money on the table because
regen scroll and heal self are interrupted by taking damage.
So when you see someone at 100 life in their TPing and you know the breadth of options
that are available to them, going there, you're going to get a guaranteed regen scroll cancel.
The Paladin will remain low.
Now, having said that, what did Simply do instead?
He found basically this item, Boots of Qualthalos or Bone Chimes are the best items you can
get with Demon and Bears.
He's getting both contested midcombs that are not really challenging to take against
a Paladin rifle player and then he gets a Book of the Dead with double summon 6 bonus units
for him in a fight.
I think it's 5 actually, the total might be wrong.
Really?
Yeah, am I wrong Hera, is it 5 or 6?
I don't know, I used it.
I don't see the units come out, I'm blind in fights.
I was wondering how blind you felt in 4-on-4 because you're already overwhelmed in 1-on-1 with any air units.
I was just having fun. I had no idea what was going on. I'm just patrolling Frost Worms and seeing what was happening.
It was a lot of fun though, I will say that. It was actually a lot of fun.
Happy was included into the format just to try it out.
I like the Naga from Simply, and as a conversation earlier, I actually prefer him creeping.
I know it might not be the correct call, and the sensing weakness is probably the correct way to play,
But I feel personally just playing safe and playing towards something that's consistent is a good way to play out these tournaments
That's a crazy thing for his bear timing. That's a crazy thing for you to say though because you were on Tyler's ass the entire game in the whole series
That's true. It's kind of a game plan bugging Tyler. Okay
Yeah, but maybe not something I'd repeat. No, but what you said still makes sense. It does still make sense
Creeping always gives value whereas tax can go horribly wrong
Simply comes in from the back. He doesn't have master claw training yet
It is 20 seconds away. It is the fastest master claw training in the game actually committing your bears before that is a mistake
There's a siphon no AMS potion yet and the bear is scary. Okay. It is 60 units actually three skeletons three
Rain skeletons. This is a bad fight timing for simply, but he feels pressured. He's gonna go in. He has a lot of damage
It's a good TP out. He says no I need oh it wasn't a TP it was a stat.
Oh it was his Naga.
You're actually stun locked during the duration of a fork life thing.
Doing that before TPing was very very risky and daring.
Simply staffed the teleport out, left the rest of his army there.
Presumably wanted to go get an orb of venom but he doesn't have money for it.
He's instead prioritizing having a second bearing queue.
The Naga is really low. She's two taps away from dying actually. Look, Bloodmage! Maxim is gonna move forward, he's gonna siphon the demon on her.
How did he look for it? How did he look for her?
There's the scroll of the beast by the way. Maxim is doing a great job with the scroll of the beast timing. He's killing some moon wells, he's killing some archers, he's killing a bear. I think Maxim's timing is fantastic.
Y'all hold on, two more bears just popped out. Rejuven the Naga. I think that simply he can hold this. He's gonna have to use a lot of resources. He needs to make more bears. He needs to keep them alive just a little bit longer.
Very nice ballad and positioning. Keeping it safe for mana burns. Arcane tower finished as well.
Naga not part of this fight yet. There's no orb of venom so simply he's missing a lot of value in the engagement here.
The rifles are going deep to try and take down that bear. Two bears are in production still.
Very little mana on Maxim. He once again forgot to macro. He's got 11 on a gold in the bank.
Good job to man. He has no arcane vault with him. You're supposed to bring militia and make a shop here
He knows better than this
therefore
There for me outside the bear form
Orcane tower is a good pickoff though. I mean he's got money you could I think you can hold this
No money for uh simply actually no orper fan. He's got two bears in production again
Wait, he's gonna target the Paladin, but there's a potion of invulnerability. There's a surround of the demon, but there's a staff.
No mana on the Paladin means rifles and bloodmages are actually in trouble.
It could be a mana potion purchased by simply he's gonna try to maybe take down the bloodmage.
60 mana, 61, 62, he needs 65, can we get two more mana? No! The bloodmage goes down!
Simply holds by taking down the bloodmage. He's gonna chase now. A bear fell for his efforts, but simply may have stabilized, Ampy.
Oh
Managing was slow comes through there. Yeah, and he runs it down. That's perfect. Oh my goodness. What a hold
What a hold from simply?
Will Scourge bone chimes doing a whole mega healing on the DH throughout that fight
That's what he got for not attacking after the town portal
He took the two midcounts got himself a book of the dead and Scourge bone chimes absolutely instrumental
15% life steal for all melee attacks and the demon
He's wailing away all the time as are the Bears.
Maxine runs back to his base. He's got two units in the altar.
Correct play would have been to hire the Paladin from the Tavern,
but he was running for his lives, panicked and blind,
unable to remember some of the best practices that he could do.
He starts to build a tower,
but simply he's going to move in to try and finish the game, Aira.
Yeah, one criticism from Maxine's gameplay here is
I feel like he just overextended.
I feel like he did really good work, sent a few Bears,
and had a nice scroll of beast timing you could have just backed up either went back and either bought some more consumables or formed a couple creep camps
Maybe
Yeah
We're a couple of things a couple of things missing for him he'll scroll aggressive shop
Bringing militia and peasants as well more towers definitely a couple of things missing but we can't blame him for running into the
The wall that is simply who used very good double staffs, was patiently waiting for new
bears to come out, wedged himself in the back of his face in order to buy more time, and
he saved his Naga simply with the first 2-0 of the 1-on-1 bracket tournament, Stans Triumphant
against his MMR Pier, and wins 2-0 against Maxim.
Really well played from both players, I feel like simply the sharper man on the day, I like
What Maxime did, I think he's obviously a bit of a one-trick on the Paladin rifle strategy, but it looked good in certain cases there
Unfortunately, just couldn't you know close it out with this pressure. So a really fun set to watch honestly
It also means guys
Hello
So I'm I'm do we have a conversation after the nation? Yeah, I would love to I would love to I'm glad you're here Maxime
Yo, what happened?
100% dodge is like really high
And so for me it's like super hard to kill Illidan.
At our first coaching I said we have to ban Illidan.
I'm sorry I didn't get it another time.
It was so hard, but I think we have a third game now.
I would improve even more and then I could push with Militia as well.
Because I had him on the ropes and then he was unable to get damage on Illidan.
Illidan can't get damage from units.
units. It's so amazing. Welcome as well simply like like how many how many red text thingies
do did you see on your on your Illidan feels like it's only I don't even know how much
he's dodging. He just I see those. It's amazing. I can't see your base because everything is
It's so crazy.
Dude, that push you had on that game was so fucking tough.
I think it was really good, but it's uncoolable.
It's so unfortunate.
Maxim, you forgot your presents every time.
The aggressive shot that we talked about.
That's why the third game would be awesome.
I remember the tower, the freaky super fast tower.
And then I always forgot because I thought it was quite good.
good and then he activated the super dodge it was it was so hard to kill
because when I kill him it's like over because there's no threat anymore my
paladin can like chill and just get just just needs to heal yeah Eric Eric and
you explain what the super dodge is probably what he means by super dodge
what was the special text that simply used on this demon yes it was the
something magic potion the anti-magic potion I believe is that the one
probably at the beginning that was okay okay the anti-magic yeah it's fine but
you can't auto attack him that's the problem well you mean it's like a big
problem yeah yeah here's like armor is with a tech speed the tech speed is
converted into armor with agility.
Yeah, that's like insane.
And the dodge chance is through the roof.
Unfair, unfair.
And I tried to get your balance list pushed through, Maxim.
But, you know, Blizzard looked at it and they said, you know,
this is crazy.
There will be only 10% of the game left after we nerf everything.
Yeah, one percent dodge, then five, then eight on level three.
So that would be perfect.
OK, OK.
That sounds good.
Maybe Warcraft 4, you've given them some strong ideas, Maxim.
Yeah.
Maxime, you're going to be patient.
Or if you dodge this, another unit takes the shot.
That would be awesome.
Oh, that's good.
Like a ricochet rather than a complete event.
Yeah.
Sounds very, you've got some good ideas.
You ever thought about a career in game development?
Yeah, that's my late game plan.
That makes sense.
To fuck up Warcraft 4.
Maxime, you're going to face tier one in the lower bracket.
Thoughts?
No more dodge.
That's so nice.
But I'm really happy for that, because he hates Parler Rifle.
Though it's a good thing for the audience as well.
And in this tournament, the good thing is,
first of all, I'm really glad that you shifted everything so quite early.
For me, it's like insane.
Yesterday, I almost died at the end.
But
yeah, for me, it's now really nice to face him with Parler Rifle, that he hates the most.
And if I lose, it's totally fine because I have a family day tomorrow, then I don't have to compete.
But when I win, that would be awesome to kick out Tyler. Damn.
That would be something special, honestly, but I wish you the best of luck, Maxim, with that later today.
I think you played pretty well today for what it's worth. I think you were kind of close to killing Simply, but Simply well played on that hold, man.
That was honestly crazy. Well played.
Thank you, thank you.
And good luck dodging points and frost no but it's it's gonna be fucking tough
it's gonna be fucking tough is simply where did you get the AMS potion tech
not one of your coaches so you concocted this yourself
well I have run into blood the blood mage before and they banished the shit
out of me and knew the maximum good blood mage so I was like I just don't want
to get banished and then I guess it also it stops the manager in two but yeah
I didn't know that potion was a thing until like this week, and then I was like oh my god. This is so goaded
It's very strong. Yeah, you make good use of it
You won the series without going bunk high. I see your shirt is still on would you have taken it?
Yeah, I don't want I don't want to transform yet, but you know
You have a bare IRL, like you have the bare form as well.
Some people are pointing out you're not really shirtless with such a manly chest hair.
Yeah, it's a classic. I have a lot of chest hair. It is what it is. It's a little carpet. It keeps me warm. It's very nice.
Sounds good. We're going to be preparing for the upper bracket finals first, okay, Maxime?
And you'll play the lower bracket as the fourth match in about an hour.
Or what do you think, a hero simply, is it going to be less than an hour?
We're playing now?
What?
Yeah, you're playing now.
Is a hero simply going?
Yeah.
You have to.
We're going right now.
Well, you're warm.
Do you need like a minute break?
Two minutes, perhaps?
Yeah, can I just take like a bathroom break?
Yeah, for sure.
We'll take.
No, no, no, no.
Chill.
Fuck.
All right, two minutes then, and then we start.
All right, all right, two minutes.
Drive back.
See you soon.
Good luck to you, and see you later.
Thank you, Matt, from GGs.
No problem.
You too, it was amazing.
It was quite fun.
Bye, bye.
Bye.
All right, I'm going to go on mute to my partners.
We're going to figure out who are going to be the next casters.
I'll run a video.
Maybe I'll run it three to five times in a row.
And we'll see you guys right after.
It gives me a chance to eat my cake.
and then we're gonna continue with Hera versus Simply.
Now I present to you the headliner.
On Saturday the 16th and Sunday the 17th of May in 2026,
the Alter of Champions in one-on-one
a main tournament will be played out.
Our eight contestants are ready to go at it in one-on-one.
The winning team from Friday's clan war
has their picks of who they wanna face in the brackets,
with the winning captain having first pick
and then they delegate the second and third pick
to the most deserving players of their team.
That happened yesterday,
and soon I'll show you today's brackets.
Most matches are a best of three
with the upper bracket finals,
the lower bracket finals,
and the grand finals being a best of five.
The grand finalist that comes from the upper bracket finals
will have an advantageous map selection system.
$8,000 is up for grabs
in this Alter of Champions one-on-one tournament
with the champion taking $3,500.
The prize pool was sponsored by Blizzard
and this event was made possible by all of you guys, the 8 participating streamers, and
all the co-casters, moderators and everybody that helped.
I'm Grubby and this is the Alter of Champions, the 1-on-1 tournament.
Let's play!
On Saturday the 16th and Sunday the 17th of May in 2026, the Alter of Champions 1-on-1
main tournament will be played at.
Our 8 contestants are ready to go at it in 1-on-1.
The winning team from Friday's clan war has their picks of who they want to face in the
brackets.
With the winning captain having first pick and then they delegate the second and third
pick to the most deserving players of their team.
That happened yesterday and soon I'll show you today's brackets.
Most matches are best of three with the upper bracket finals, the lower bracket finals and
the grand finals being a best of five.
The grand finalist that comes from the upper bracket finals will have an advantageous
map selection system.
$8,000 is up for grabs in this Alter of Champions 1-on-1 tournament with the champion taking $3,500.
The prize pool was sponsored by Blizzard and this event was made possible by all of you guys,
the 8 participating streamers and all the cocasters, moderators and everybody that helped.
I'm Grubby and this is the Alter of Champions, the 1-on-1 tournament.
The Headliner.
The first match of the Clan War is a 1-on-1 that begins on springtime and is the best of 3.
Each team captain will send their representative blindly.
Who will they send first?
Let's find out.
Welcome to the Alter of Champions,
an eight-player Warcraft 3 Invitational tournament.
Today on the 15th May, 2026, there is the Clan War.
We have eight streamers that are divided
into two teams of four players each.
They will work together to win as a team today.
They'll play up to five matches that are all best of three.
To win, a team must score 3 victories.
On the left hand side, we have Team Alpha, Captain by Tyler1.
He will be joined by Yamato Cannon, Simply and MaryMaby.
On the right hand side, there is Team Omega.
Captain by Hera.
He joins forces with Pox, Maxime and Dante's.
The opening match is called The Headliner.
It is a one-on-one match that begins on springtime.
Each team captain will choose one player to send in, blindly and unaware of the other
team's choice. Will the captain send themselves, send in their strongest, send a sacrifice
or send a special matchup assassin to take out an expected opponent?
Next up, team coordination will be put to the test. The co-op battle is a 2 vs 2 match
that begins on the map Synergy. A team's two players spawn very closely together on
this one. The captain may not reuse their headliner player for the 2 vs 2.
Thirdly, we will have the ultimate test of team spirit and the management of order through chaos.
In the 4 on 4, everyone plays.
It's a full on brawl of team vs team to score another point for a team.
All 4 on 4 maps will be played on Aerothor.
The fourth match is called the redemption match.
If the clan war isn't over with a 3-0 score already, there's going to be a redemption match.
player that hasn't featured yet in the headliner or co-op battle must be sent in
for a fourth point in this clan war. This match will take place on the
server. Welcome to the on-
Yo guys, what's up? Welcome back to the stream. Sorry to interrupt your little
clan war there, but you already got what you wanted. We got the clan war yesterday
and we got plenty of headliners as well.
Welcome everybody to the Alter of Champions Day 2.
This is the one-on-one tournament
and we are about to be kicking things into gear
in the upper bracket semifinals,
the first one of the day, between Hera and Simply.
And I have with me two special guests,
I have with me two special guests right here
in Ampi reprising us for another series again
and a new challenger that almost was in the tournament, almost but not quite yet.
Ajax, welcome.
Hey, Grubby, good to be here.
It's good to have you.
Good to have you.
I was sent a little clip where you thought it would have been fun to play.
Of course, I know you're a busy man, but I'm glad that we can still get you for a cast.
Oh, I'm excited to be here for casting.
This is a good matchup, too.
These are the two guys I spent the most time working with.
I was involved behind the scenes by playing with people and talking about strategy. So these are the two I'm most excited
Oh, cool. Cool. Well, that's that's awesome that we could get you for a cast for this
Two night else to cast here for this match. Oh, yeah, I'll be good to meet you. Yeah. Yeah, nice to meet you
We've run into each other on the
Imagine the ladder. Yeah. Yeah
Good times
How did it go?
50-50, I think we won't win or lose us all around.
Fair battles.
Bear be bear.
Do both of you want to join the lobby or am I going to restream?
What do you think, Adrian?
Sure, I can join the lobby.
How do I do this?
I go to the champions?
Yeah, the rest of the champions.
I base it the game name and the cast to this channel.
All right
You know, I think we've got the night elf team locked in for the casting. This is a good omen for simply, you know
Yes, so
Prevent any chat
Spreading it to Hera I want to talk about what I told simply because I think I think it'll be a really interesting discussion
Okay, how do you know simply actually?
I've known simply forever
Yeah, we've done like speedrunning stuff together and done some collab streams and stuff like that. So, oh cool
See we did a
Like noobs versus pro speedrunning thing where he went 1v5 on us in Mario
Well, how can you speedrun 1v5?
You have to it was for Mars before we had to get we split all the stars up
He had to get all the stars in the game, but we had to get I don't know
We had to beat the game 16 star each and he had to get all 120 and that was the idea.
Hold on.
We did, but like barely.
Oh, he also had to do a shot every time, I don't know, something we did, so he was
pretty good.
That's crazy.
All right, I'm in.
Let me get off team one, joining service.
Let's see.
Okay, we got simply in.
We've got heroin, atriac, ampioca, we're all here.
I just need to go and check the map.
the Vito system is random selection. This was supposed to be the system, but we accidentally
that's my bad. We didn't use the correct Vito system. But either way, it's always three
maps left that part we always got right. The first map is going to be lost refuge. Simply
being looking good.
He's a I dropped by the way, grubby. So I could do discord
stream. Okay, sure. You don't want to join the camera. Okay,
sure. I'll just do that. Lock their colors into red and blue,
put Hera on red, same play on blue.
Yeah, so you wanted to keep secret some discussions you've had with simply Aitriak just...
Yes, actually I'm biting my tongue.
I'm ready to say stuff, but I just think I don't want it to get out because I think
it should be a clean game and then we're going to look at chat when the game starts.
Okay.
Map intro and then we're going to find ourselves in the game.
Here we go.
All right, the game is underway.
Hera against Simply, starting the upper bracket, round two, it's a best of three.
The next upper bracket round is going to be a best of five actually, but for now it is
still a best of three. Simply in the bottom left on Lost Refuge, the map was randomly selected.
There's two maps left in the pool and it's going to be Loser's Choice, whoever loses this first
one. And Hera as right on the right side in red as an undead. Here we go. All right, take it away,
Jira. Okay. Here's what I wanted to say. I think, you know, based on the stats going into this
tournament and the elo when everyone expected, most people put Hera as the favorite, especially
after the games yesterday. I do think Simply has a better chance that people are giving him credit for.
If you watch those games yesterday, Simply has done rather well. There's some early fights he
outcompeted here and on like he got his demon hunter to a higher level and snipped off some ghouls and
and then he gets to his good timing and his good army with bears. The problem was he doesn't know
the fundamental rule of Warcraft that I will now teach all of you, including you Grubby,
You never ever ever ever ever ever ever attack a
Turtling on bed in their base ever you just don't you don't look at it when they're in their base
You never go and I've taught simply that now we talked about it. We drilled it in
I think if he never makes that mistake again
It's gonna make it 50 times harder for Hera because all those games dude
He walks in with the bears and the slow towers
And then the coil Nova and it's the shop and he keeps getting mana back
It's so annoying and if undead can't win that way
They just they start crying and Harold might start crying if he does this
I swear to God and then on Harris side
I'll just say the coaching we had for that because he was depressed a few days ago
Oh, yeah, I mean he was like in a bad mood. Here's what he had to learn
You can just attack at like level two versus night elf and kill the whips
And I don't know if he's gonna do that this game or not because it's kind of far and maybe he's gonna creep
But like that once he knew that he got some control back over the game realized that I could use his multitasking in his feet
To his advantage, so I think both those strategies will be pretty strong if they can get him down
I I agree with everything you said, but that's totally true
Every player must learn this at some point that the floor is lava and
Blight is the floor and you do not step on this unless you have it that way
It's it's so true that expansion timing that came and went then in the second game simply did go for the expansion
But other things went wrong against her yesterday
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, I mean, I was a great player and he's actually he's so fast
If you really compare him to other people in this term his biggest advantage is his speed
You can just do more and I think when he turns games into multitasking battles. That's when they start the crumble
You know, even versus Yamato Yamato's build is so good
And he's like really polished with it, but when when a lot of things are happening
That's when you start to see the difference
So everyone else kind of wants to keep it you to keep it tight keep it focused on one one battle one focus
And then Hera I think his goal needs to be like
Make it messy make the game a little messier make the game a little
Multitask like some having your base something back at the
Wisp wisp wisp coming in hot from the side
He sniped and coiled it. That whispered if they could have taken out three skeletons, meanwhile Hera is handling this so well
He took down the West piece targeting an archer. What archer is gonna be going down?
They're a little bit too melee for my liking here simply as
Honestly when I press DK like this, I tend to not even bring my archers
I just go to burn him if I'm not actually trying to apply pressure like that
unless I mean if you have a lot of archers but like bringing two archers
just feels like you're you're you're bringing like a possible pain point yep
yeah you bring the liability they really don't add anything there now to be fair
Hera does have a mistake he doesn't have dust of appearance which means any
shadow mail that archer will be safe but he took a lot of damage on various
archers I think he lost one right and it just really lost one archer yeah I mean
He kind of slowed the creeping down a bit. He got all the mana on the the DK
If you were still sticking around and like just with his d100 full HP and poking it would be kind of good
But now that Hera's still creeping. I don't know. It doesn't seem that good. I'm gonna give that exchange
Solidly to Hera. I think he's in at least the 60% position from here on out
Creeping under duress is a skill that comes with practice and Hera
didn't show that in the first three to two weeks of its practice but as of
this weekend it's become so much better at understanding and I think it's from
all the happy replays he wants understanding that just because someone
shows up doesn't mean the fun stops you just need to split your attention
between harassing the enemy while securing the creeps at the same time
this is very difficult to do meanwhile simply splitting his attention doing
doing two creeps at the same time he doesn't need to lose his ancient for if
If he attacks his own, oh, oh, this is scary.
This is so scary.
Man, oh, this is, oh, that's a insane item for him.
He's really super strong against the pure focus.
Oh, yeah, the bracers.
But that's true.
The bracers are so nice versus undead.
Ampy, you ever did the maths on the exact reduction
of spell braces?
33%, no, I don't know.
It's like 33%, and it's multiplicative with your base
resistance of 30%.
So the total amount of damage you get from spells
46% so in other words a coil instead of doing a hundred you're gonna get 46 a level to coil not even a hundred damage
That's awesome. I wish I got that every game
So good
I mean he could just run at them and like honestly just tank the tank the spells like please use your spells on me
Yeah, it becomes an HP sponge and he just goes in gills up. He doesn't even need to man. It's a second mana burn almost
He did lose the Ancient of War though, which you know for the viewers as a night off that really slows down your creeping like later
Like because it can't keep moving and
Yeah, like he could move into the gold mine right now. Yeah, that's a very hard camp now
I actually don't like that simply
It's now fallen behind the DK on in terms of creep level it like leveling and he picked up Naga
Which to me is a nice timing attack where you push, you know
Maybe try to get like a cancel on there like graveyard or something
Maybe find Lich right as it comes out and and he picked Naga and then wasn't able to pressure with him
I'm not yeah
I'm not really a big fan of that. It's not that good because basically simply initially takes only the item from a creep camp and leaves
The rest which was an efficient thing to do to harass early and then he comes back and he cleans up the mess
Imagine being like I don't use
urinals I just go on the floor but then you go and mop it up it's just not good
You let someone else clean that up by the way if you use just don't use urinals and you pee on the floor
You should mop it up just for the people in chat
We don't know the conditions here. What if there's like a what if there's like a
Grape or something like a drink
But we don't know what's going on. I'm just saying simply shouldn't be mopping up these remainders of creeps
It's very time and efficient to path in this way. Sorry. I didn't know your life as well atrial. Can you try to keep it normal here?
Normal I did 12 hours of monkey ball yesterday. This is good
Yeah, I don't know I think
You tell me if I'm wrong Gary, but doesn't this feel when you're both just creep creep creeping
That's what undead wants. They just want to get there. Yeah, they want this. I think so too. Yeah
I
Always have a fear of doing this and again. I want to like slow down their their hero levels
This is actually I must say it simply made so far this pathing. He's doing right now
This is the worst
This is like you took the wrong exit on the highway and now you have to like backtrack for like 20 miles
He's walking through areas that are not fertile grounds all five creep camps in this quadrants have been disappeared
Going back in order to keep this orange cam feels time inefficient
I would have liked it more if he crept the ogre lord on the right side just the ogre lord
Don't doesn't even have to finish the camp and then attacks the under base and then TP's home in order to go back to this
Camp because now he has forced himself kind of on the map. All right
Well, he got some some pressure. I mean getting attacked is really lucky because this is exactly what he wants right now
That's true. Actually. Yeah. Yeah
And this is a perfect thing. It's a DK without man up. So he's not
The undead army is not
Super yeah, it looks like he's trying to get that a timing just before master bear training
What is it?
I mean the book of the dead comes out there's no real pressure here. No, why is it that's kind of like huge waste from era
Hey, I'm from a simply yeah, he's shit out the book of the dead under no pressure at all
While Hera still has the allowance to back off normally you want to use this early?
Yes, so that it doesn't get destroyed away, but you want to use it melee to surround someone
Just shitting it out like this is an opportunity for the opponent to waste your item
Meanwhile, here I got stuck on his death night. He just wanted to get a heel scroll, but he got stuck
So now he has to work the gun now he's creeping it
Jack here would have been I mean, I think simply is this is the strongest
Advantage difference. He's ever gonna have not ever I should like this is like a really good bears
There's two bears, but the dead's still up.
He should be pressuring a little bit.
You would keep jacking here, easy money,
but he's also gonna get a big camp.
I mean, that's something.
I feel like simply he's more focused on his macro right now
because he lost a lot of wisps in that early game.
His lumber economy hurt a lot,
and he just now got a shredder online.
It took him a long time to identify that.
So he's able to finally spend his gold,
which I mean, it's a little late.
So his supply, he just hit 50 supply.
I'll be are you noticing anything else missing I?
No shop oh
Yeah shop and some so shop no venom no awesome venom or
No staff, okay. He's getting he's getting snuck snuck up on this no way
This could be perfect though if if if simply sees on the way out and catches him simply come on what does he know?
You cannot be nearby and let someone creep an ogre lords. This is a cardinal
I mean, he doesn't know it, but he should be able to catch it on just a naturally moving. This is this is a good time
Burn it burn it go
or the legend then
This is a great
Still in combat
The book of the dead just re despawned after all this time
Good roar. I mean, this is not bad. Wait. He has 50 supply. Where's his stuff?
It's in production or at home or something. He has no Orpah venom. No steeping. No staffer preservation. He has to get out of here
This fight's terrible. I mean he has three units and two heroes. Oh my goodness
He wasn't ready for he should he should have had more units at that point. This is lumber economy
Yeah, you left two archers in the dry at the bottom and he yeah, I was gonna say
Okay, pick some that's what I mean
Seven here a shredder. He remade some wisps and some units were in production
So he has the smallest 50-pop army ever an army for ants in three units
And army
God the arch is running away. I'll say about simply his uh, I don't know if he's got him yet
He hasn't had a guy. He's never shot. He's a shot. He is just just really good. It's that preservation uses really good
This is the very ambitious suppose
This is a show location
But if Hera is not going to attack, then all good.
Now there's no creeps in this corner of the map.
So Hera can only attack or go all the way back home
or top left, and that's an awkward angle to make.
Oh, look at that.
Using destroyer flying vision on the lab,
and then coiling the wisp was a pretty sweet move.
There's the shot.
Now he's got no coil, no mana.
It's a mana pot, though.
This is the best item you can find.
He got it from the top goblin shop.
So we have no staff, no orb, and night elf.
Just that 50 supply versus 50 supply, no mana.
Good fight, though.
This is not too bad, and the Moon Wolves are nearby.
The Moon Wolves are here, they're just spawned here.
Garrus are doing some good for Cubination, it's no more for Fendham, but they shall finish.
Oh, the Manapod Coil!
Oh, very good mana burn on the mana pot!
It's pretty good!
Actually, Simpli's doing really well, he's got Staff of Preservation!
Simpli's doing really well!
Oh, by Staff Mid Combat to get him out of there.
If he can get this destroyer down in that stash from the back, he has a huge advantage here.
Naga! Simply doesn't know this is Naga!
His target-fire is almost over.
Oh! Coil! He was trying to agree!
Not using a healing potion!
Trying to make his way to one of the six moon wells!
It was so close! He could have mana-burned the death knight.
He could have bought a healing potion. He could have made it to the moon well.
He could have moved earlier, but simply fell just slightly short in every single category.
Now, I actually think the right play here is to go mid and buy a hero and keep going in this fight.
I don't know if that that sounds good to you, but like he has so much pressure double bears about to spawn
I feel like making it in the in your altar right now is just letting the undead rebuild their army. I feel like he could
You get creeper. I mean he's ahead. I don't like I said, I told never attack the base
I think if you want I mean the nugget in guy who's way ahead there. You see the answer
Yeah, I think so he has two upgrades. His upgrades are so good now Hera also has two attack upgrades
He does have an endurance aura DK level five
There's a lot going on here, but it was definitely not that good caught. Yeah. Yeah, if he gets this
Yeah, it's this camp. I mean, that's a nice this does get him five to probably and it takes the red off the table for
Herak getting it later, which is perfect and
He just can't get caught and that's the big how do you got it? I mean this looks good
This is five for four point ninety nine. It's gonna be close. No. Oh, yeah, it's close
That's big that's really big level five. That's big
Okay, he's gonna flank him with a pretty good army. He comes back this way
Demon 5, look at these filthy items, unholy aura, the same one that Death Knight has,
runed bracer's, orpoffenim is finally in the field, Naga is 20 seconds away from finishing,
new bears are coming, 54 procs. He's getting, well look at how much damage Luke's still doing.
He's gonna buy a TP scroll I think. He doesn't need to, he doesn't need to, he's rejuvenate,
You just need some Dutch to rejuvenate. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the the power of the statue and there's like this is this is good
The bears are in the bear's
The bears are in the fiends a good fight statues dead
Look at that bear micro. He's gonna get a rejuvenate. I'm doing good. Oh, I'm a cure for the knockout. I think this is a big
No, it's going bottom. What is it doing? Oh, where's the knockout going?
No
Simply you're not gonna see that in the fight. You're not so important
No, dude, he's here focusing too. He's got he's got invulna and TP score. He's got to just kill these fees. Gotta kill the feed destroyers
It's death night. The hero is just a strier. It's not it would be better. I don't watch it and like me both
But the people to the decay. Yeah, what if she turns into a plane and starts taking off?
Oh
500
Oh my god
That's so smart simply as Jesus
This this this lich can't get away, I mean he's just getting Superman
This might be the nail in the coffin for Hera I think you still
He remembers he has Naga Sea Witch!
He remembers he has Naga, we're getting a full usage out of Demon Metamorphosis!
He expanded his upgrades!
Everything is so good for Simply! How is this possible?
He's so good!
Woo!
It's so good!
Wait, Simply why is he playing kind of crazy?
Oh!
Oh, man!
And he's creeping!
What is he talking about?
H.R.K. is listening to you!
Never attack the other base!
I told him never attack, but I think maybe this case you probably could.
He's got actually
You know
That's still too fiends and destroyer and an ice tower though, you don't want to be too
Now I feel bad why I literally told him never no
I do feel like he could maybe pick up a third hero instead of creeping with this level six DH
But this is not that bad. I mean look one day
All the grip on the map, so he gets all the gold.
He's gonna have an expansion.
He puts an H of protector on that
and he doesn't let Hera get an expansion.
It's like, how can Hera win?
It's gonna be a lot harder.
You got DH6, that's insane.
You're gonna have a full army,
that's equal or better pop.
I mean, your options as Hera are really limited.
His army is not gonna be back to what it was.
What Hera should do is he should stay under 50 pop
until the gold mines empty
and then unsummon some buildings
do a final like 60 population pusher or something it's the best thing you can do full mana afk
next to statues and then even though the opponent is simply is going to have his expansion it will
be at most what a 60 pop army oh he really needed that uncle before he lost this death knight with
tp by the way he was trying to bait simply to believe that he could kill the death knight
but he made it too believable and actually lost the death knight yeah he actually lost it
That was a sick fight from simply awesome to get the DH six a DK six. Yeah, sorry DH. I keep getting I saved
Huge upgrades from simply to look at that. What is that to two working on three to this disgusting. He's got the bear roar
Yeah, his bears are coming online his Expo. I mean
Are we still making bears here? We going to like mountain giant territory?
What is what is Hera making to rebuild his army?
And it hasn't switched to banshees or anything like he hasn't there's nothing else
Yeah, it's really funny that if there's a transition to master banshees
You want to transition to mountain giants as well?
But as it stands rejuvenation is still good
You just need to dodge the devourer from destroyers Hera feels time pressure
So it's gonna move forward immediately and we might have like a 50 versus 50 pop army
Fight here though the pit Lord is still being remade as of right now needs another 35 seconds
Yeah, I mean simply being 50 this whole time is kind of awesome. He's just getting tons of gold from to that wasp true
He's like and now he's gonna build as long as I think I think simply's a really good spot man if I was
As long as here's the here's the big thing simply has to stop this expansion or the game's gonna go
Who knows like I mean here is that opens the door?
But he sees it
That's the key. The first thing I teach every night of if there is a gold mine that is cleared and you know about it
It doesn't matter. You did it or they did it. There's gonna be a whistle there
He's mostly following this see he didn't do it on the left red spot
But he was keeping eyes on the top gold mine as well as the right side so his vision is good for it
He's got spies everywhere. Look now. He has spies literally everywhere. So good map control
Yeah, really really good from simply high key
This is a big fight. This is I mean this is the fight he denies the expansion
I feel like here is out of gas bro. He has met a more
Rejuve two more bears on the way. You have five bears to drive here
Oh
Hit Lord's already nothing
Three two one
Complete
Metaform again these kids splash damage
I
Simply doing this. It's filthy. It's strong. He's targeting a pack of units. Everyone is gonna splice that much coil in the air
Oh my god, simply is doing it against her
Oh my god, oh my god, bro. Oh
The onk there was an onk though. I didn't remember
No, I mean, okay, he's tired in the Naga level seven
I'm just keeping it out.
Got him!
What? The A-bomb tie on the way out of the distance.
The entire army is gone.
GG!
Holy moly, dude!
Holy moly!
Simply ecstatic hands of the air on that win.
That's awesome.
And that's without taking his shirt off. That's crazy.
It's so weird.
He's saving it, bro. He's saving it for the finals.
I already am telling you guys.
I am telling you guys.
Don't underestimate it my boy.
Man, what a fun game, that was so entertaining, both of them killed 67 units, exactly.
A hero of Demon Hunter was level 6.7, and then he finally got level 7 when he attacked
the Hera expansion there, he had eyes everywhere, his spies told him of any way that Hera tried
to make a comeback, and he gets the opening map on last refuge, very very impressive by
simply.
really cool, man. I think that's a big upset based on what everyone expected going in.
I think people thought a lot of people could beat Hera.
They thought maybe Yamato or, or Tyler one, both of them have now fallen to him
in a, in a first match and then simply, I think it looked really good.
That game, that was awesome. That was really cool.
How well do you know metamorphosis, by the way?
Yeah, it was so good. Guys, how well do you know what maps are good about for you?
like your verdict on the next map that we're gonna have,
which is gonna be either Autumn Leaves or Northern Isles.
What's better for Hera, you think?
I don't know what are actually better.
I do know that as a night off player,
Autumn Leaves always felt really nice.
It just felt nice.
I don't know if it's good,
or you can tell me what the pro level is,
but it always felt good and a nice creep pattern.
I don't know, I thought it was great.
Well, what is the actual answer?
Is that match up good on the?
I feel like Northern Isles is possibly good for the Niles
because you get Insta2 on that camp right at your base.
You can get it with the shop on Autumn Leaves,
and then you can just run at the DH or the DK and Mana Burned.
But I feel like the DK has really good
creep camp availability right at the start.
You can like do that gold mine.
You get like some pretty good stuff early.
On Northern Isles?
I would, yeah, on Northern Isles.
I feel like Hera would probably want Northern Isles.
I feel like simply probably doesn't want Northern Isles.
I feel like I don't see him go for that level two camp.
It's a little risky.
It's like the hardest AOAW camp that I could think of.
Yep.
Yeah, it's the hardest camp in the game
on Northern Isles for Night Elf.
If you go for the level 2.1,
you're also very far away from the undead expansion.
Both of you are right.
I think it is advantageous for simply,
not just for his playstyle,
for the matchup in general to go autumn leaves and Northern Isles being the better one for
Hera. However, Hera picked autumn leaves. Interesting. It's opposite. We did a bunch
of night elf, um, undead practice customs and it was all on autumn leaves. So that's
also maybe just it feels comfortable. Okay. Yes. Familiarity makes sense. Cause once you
the creep count and you know the route they're going to take. It kind of helps. I do predict
my guess would be based on what Eric did is like he's going to really try to kill Wisp.
He's going to try like, you know, just early on when, when night out this week, get in there
and kill Wisp. He hasn't done it last game, but I think it'll be a, I feel like that early pressure
that like Hera, if he was able to kill one or two more wisps simply would have been in
such a dire situation. He was already really struggling. There was a window there where
if Hera attacked and abused that early lumber, I would say misplay on Simplice Park, he definitely
should have made more wisps when he saw that happen before going to Tier 3 or try to get
a shred early. That's like a thing you can really punish the Nidalees for because it delays their
50-pop army. They might be able to get their bear timing, but they have what, one bear?
I feel like focusing more on that wisp weakness is definitely how Hera would
would benefit going into this?
Well, I got a question, Grubby.
If the miracles continue in the Heavens part
and simply manage to win this series,
does that mean Hera fights Tyler one again?
No, or Maxim.
Oh, it's a Maxim.
Okay, I thought that was a really bad question.
No, that's a good question.
I'm glad you asked.
Just looking at the bracket one more second.
The way that we do these is we flip it in the second round.
So you only meet the people that you expect to meet
in the first round of lower bracket or the upper bracket.
But after that, it flips and there's good reasons for this.
But yeah, that's indeed how it works.
So there's no immediate re-meeting of hair on Tyler1.
He's gonna be meeting someone that comes up
from the lower bracket from the other four.
It's like a poxer, like a poxer, like a Yamato.
Exactly.
Something like that.
Are you sharing screen?
I will not.
Yeah, I can't share it until we're in the game
and there's always a lot going on.
Thank you for reminding.
Okay, it's shared.
Okay.
So do we have, can get a camera flip production?
Thank you very much.
The color thing, yeah.
So apparently, simply is promising to take a shirt off
if he wins this game, so it's a big moment, folks.
Ooh.
This is a full demon will be unlocked.
So we're gonna get, if he wins, hypothetically,
we get a post-game interview with a shirtless simply.
Wow, that is high power level right there.
Is it a threat or a war, Chad asks?
Based on what you guys know about Simply,
how cool is he under pressure?
That's a good question.
He folds, I'm straight up, do it.
At least the games that I've seen, I've been watching him.
If he gets pressured early and he doesn't deal with it well,
like, you know, there was a time,
I won be want him on the ladder. He tried to level one. He tried to cheese me a little bit
It didn't work and he just typed a gg
And the game is over in his head. So I think it's this is actually like really oh, he's going through the
This is a really good opener for him
I got you'd have to know that which means you like picked this map and knew he was gonna do this
No, I don't pick this map. I told you
For simply
This is nice, I mean he's gonna be he's gonna get a nice item no whisk though wait hold on wait a minute
There's no way this is a little dangerous for simply sweet. We got to watch out for our way, bro
You didn't do it right. He didn't do it right. Oh
This is the thing once you get the bears in the dry adds the game is easy
Simply cannot get away with that dude. This is so stressful. He's actually doing this little purpose cuz he knows you guys are
I mean, yeah, oh my god, but like if they're okay with what it's the kill they're no experience
So it's like okay this he's going for level three here. Yeah, what he's gonna do
No, no, no, he's gonna go he's gonna go this camp right into the gold mine with a with a second archer
Get level three and run at Hera. I'm telling you guys into the gold mine. That's not gonna heal first. He's gonna
I don't think you need to okay
You go to the base and then you go back and heal and then you hear a run of their base. Yeah, that's cool
That's I never do this row. This is nice. It's really fast
I was able to get it with emo emo evasion
340 330 ish you level 3
Okay, but here comes here, I think you should do this he's gonna try and get the wisps
Here is picking. It's actually good that. Oh, yeah. Okay. You know what? He had he had the game
Awareness. Oh, you did the homework. He knew the timings. He's ready for it. Oh, I did it. Oh, the hunter's hole is gonna get canceled
No, it's not work. This could be really bad for his tech. It's not worth it. It just started and he doesn't have ammo
It's not a big deal to get this cancelled. If you start it
If he brings a wisp, I think he dings level three if he detonates on those two and that would be a huge power spike for him
He needs a debt that debt to on this
He could get it
Level three level two mana burn would be insane for him right now. Nice. Uh, nice coil by hair. That was sick
This is fine for simply it's just a building no wisps have died yet. No wisps are going to always one list go down. Oh, yeah
Hunter's Hall comes out still it was in time off
Okay, his hunter's Hall is still just in time for for his for his anxious of Lord of drop two wisps go down
Maybe three here. Okay. Okay. It's not as bad as it could be all that's true. I mean, this is
This is kind of standard. I feel like losing two wisps to a DK harass. He's losing his creep time
The age is almost level three. This is not a terrible spot
This would be pretty standard if they go for this kind of creep harass
I actually agree. I think simply held that pretty well. He didn't crack under pressure
I don't think it's three out of five. He gets level three here off this. I mean, he's not even afraid
Wow, nice. We're done actually nice. Oh
It's fine. It's fine. Please don't beat the memes any more.
It's a visual.
I remember the Chatspan four or five.
It's a disaster.
Yeah, they're going to keep saying it.
Actually, though, she's eating the crust simply.
Go go, man, a burn him.
Your man.
Why are you eating crust simply?
He actually said he really likes the crust.
So he likes the crust.
I mean, it's really we got to say it.
If you did this early game, if you measured it, it's like he's winning.
Yeah. I mean, this is a good he's got his Naga on time.
This is a really hefty attack here.
Yeah, how hefty is it?
If he actually pressures with this, if he finds the DK, he could kill a couple of ghouls, or get really low HP on the DK, and then the DK is up for aid.
Because he doesn't have much self-healing.
He's finding him!
Oh, he's got the self-healing!
This is so scary for Hera.
Time!
Is he gonna take it?
Okay.
He has to TP out.
Just TP.
Naga melee.
Don't take anything but 20 of DH.
Naga melee.
Not that good.
Wait, Naga, Naga, you gotta run. Naga, you gotta run.
He's killing a lot, he's killing a lot.
Hera's getting nothing.
This is...
Yeah.
Get one, get one more...
He turned off the Frost Arrow, he turned it off.
I don't know, I think he had it on, but he couldn't get in range.
Oh.
Actually, if you manual cast it, they can get a little bit more range.
All through this time, by the way, Hera is late with his slaughterhouse.
This is more than a minute late.
He made it at six minutes, as I called it a minute late.
This is 634.
That's unacceptable.
Yeah, when we did practice, Hera told me something.
Over and over again, I think it slaughterhouse in five minutes slaughterhouse in five minutes
I don't even know the timing for undead but now I know it because he said it so many times
So the fact that he's getting it 649 is like a huge huge slowdown. You think Hera
I'm Tyler one
Wait, what he's all did he just like he just used all his energy
I think I think that though the whiz paras is just a lot of
Management, you know, he got caught off. I guess it the slaughterhouse was probably supposed to drop right when he was getting
ganked at the shop, that would be my guess.
Yes, and then he got under pressure.
So there's just a lot going on.
It's to simply spread it.
And you're completely right for pointing that out.
That's so true.
He's giving several damage items to the Naga.
Demon makes better use of them, but you
do want to clear inventory for demons
so that he's the melee guy that can pick up items
anytime you're creeping.
Phillyke is overdoing it a little bit too early.
Is he going to catch him again?
He's mentally offloading himself for later,
but it's OK on the Naga.
And he's going to catch him again.
That's crazy.
Here has no TP. No TP on the DK. He sold it.
One gold. That DK is super vulnerable.
I took great healing potions!
I took the item!
What?!
2-0 bro! This is a crazy upset.
Two golds and a greater healing potions, Steve.
But stealing the greater healing is such a swing.
Look at this. This is even health.
I mean, health. He could just go solo of the team.
I know that night off is obviously the weakest with powerful based race, but
Giving a demon hunter to a given dener that potion is so annoying for anyone
Look everyone hates to see that if simply creeps this he's taking it for expansion for one
But if he also creeps it he's taking away the building blocks of heros comeback
This is so high level warcraft 3 play that completely doesn't fit the movement of an 1160 mmr player
Simply is playing above and beyond what is possible.
There's a Telephone of Evasion which he can give on Naga.
Safe here? Would he just give Healing Potion?
Yeah, yeah, he's just guzzling it.
He used both.
Okay.
So smart.
Is it?
I don't think so.
I don't think he...
There was not enough pressure for him to use Hellstone.
That's a really nice regen over time.
I feel like...
He's both?
The bears are coming through.
They're almost to him.
He could just rejuve it up.
That was a bludder.
I feel like that was definitely really wasted.
Right, right.
Yeah, he's both.
Yeah.
Now, doing that...
I will say to you, like you said, Grubby, he doesn't have,
that's a camp gone.
And now, Hera's kind of searching for another camp.
Like he's like, what do I?
There's nothing.
I will say that we do have Orb of Corruption
that can't be understated.
If Hera's able to get a couple of,
he has to scrounge for some XP,
but if he is able to, he could get some,
some, he needs to just get some hero level somehow.
Yeah, look.
It's 4-2 now to 3-1 and a better army from simply.
So, like, Hera's window is not looking good.
Hera fell into the pitfall of trying to creep on his own side of the map
because he's so pressured.
You want to stay safe and hug your own side of the map.
But the way that the game works, and the way that simply is playing it,
is by exerting pressure on Hera's side of the map,
crucially, without going into the undead base
by taking away the rug from underneath Hera,
taking away creep camps that are surrounding the undead base.
And so where Hera should have gone,
if he had known about it, that simply a stop left,
Hera should have gone bottom right to creep this gold mine,
maybe this red spot.
That's where your place is,
if you're being bullied around the map.
But he expected to just try and take a creep cap
in the corner, couldn't get it,
and now simply is doing everything right,
except maybe the wasteful potion.
He really is, like he did the ancient war creep
on this camp, so Hera's got a less opportunity.
He put a wisp on Hera's gold mine to make so no expansion.
He's like, uh, he's really making more...
If he might catch a bear out here for Harry to get back in the game.
We don't have any destroyers. Does he have the destroyer? He does have the destroyer.
He's got to get one out. These Rejuves cannot be blasting like that.
This is great going in for the mana burn play and then just not committing, just making sure that
Hera never has any mana. Now, simply didn't make one mistake.
He does have a shredder to fix his lumber income, but crucially, no over-Moonwell production.
Saving up on 50 is part and parcel of good macro play in Warcraft 3 under many conditions,
but it is not correct not to be able to go over 50 pop with some prepared movements.
Yeah, this is, I would say he's giving time for Hera to catch up a little bit.
This is giving Hera the breathing room that I think he needed to kind of come back in this game,
simply could push to 60 right now, and I feel like he could just end the game,
but like I said, he's giving him room.
Pushing into on the next no, I thought it was getting his creep camps. It's illegal. I mean where he's not gonna do it
He's not gonna push the base. I promise you we'd drill it
Even if it's a bad idea and he should go in he's not gonna do it
I don't think Harry used this time that in sailing. This is the one camp. He's gotten in two and a half
Yeah, the problem is there's not much on the map for him and you might get caught here
Does he have a tp? There has no top portal. He's right into a show. This is gonna be a really strong fight from simply
He has the order to finish it staff. He doesn't know the old sufficient. He didn't see him
He didn't know I never get it. He's the money
It's 50 gold. It's not fair. He can't afford it
So does Hera have vision
They met each other secretly he didn't start it. Oh, yeah, I got second try a good fight for for Hera
Yep, his his front line is is in the back. Yeah, he's
Both Dryads are gone, he has no Dispel's left.
Don't lose the Naga.
Hera kinda owning this fight, she's got two destroyers with mana, now attacking Barris.
You couldn't have asked for a better fight, Hera did an insane overdate.
Simply kinda shit the bet there, nice mana putt coil on the lich.
All the Barris are going down, all the Dryads are down.
Hera's gonna get levels out of this.
Now we're almost equalized on the level front, we're 4-2.9 versus 4-3.
If that Naga lives, okay he's forced a TP out.
Look at the supply and look at the supply.
Yep.
There was a head now after that fight.
What an amazing fight.
Good fight from Hera.
Honestly, just well played.
Better micro.
And to the Victor, go to Spoils.
That's a really large part of winning this fight as well.
Dryads in front.
Right on the right cam.
Yeah.
And not losing any units to it at all.
It's also really good.
Oh!
Oh, look.
Gryptv.
That's crazy.
What?
So good.
That's crazy.
Bro, that's so good for her, he's working to level 5 right now!
Yeah, he has a genius for that!
Oh man!
And he also gets him back to the base without wasting money on a TP.
Just like last game, he's working on that 6th, I mean, simply did it, got the meta.
We're gonna see a death and decay game-changing play here.
This is like League of Legends when you want to just die to get back to the base, save time, don't...
The time point is too slow.
Yeah, okay, okay, I see, I see. So that was not actually bot, losing a fiend and a deacon?
No, no, no, you don't understand grab. I think it's because you're too close to the game
But really yeah, he did was very high level if freed up supply now. He's he's
Even if he knew about it, he wouldn't attack
To creeps okay, this is a really hard camp
And that would be so honorable if he lost his demon item.
Oh, so you're supposed to move your hero when it drops low against Krenakon.
Ah, maybe.
If he's doing it wrong, I think he's supposed to get the meta.
We'd still lose a bear if we're lucky.
Simply, come on.
I'll play it simply, well played.
This was our chance for a double level 4 hero death.
That would have been a trick.
I got this too.
Oh, just five for one.
A helm of valor!
Oh my god.
The god-tier demon item.
Tell me how much you love this item, Treyarch.
This is such a great, you just see it and you feel like, oh wait, the game's gonna be a lot easier.
How much HP does that give, Grubby? 5 strength. 125 health.
Isn't it a lot? 125 health, a quarter HP per second regen, I believe.
And it also gives 5, 10% attack speed, which counts as about 7% DPS because it's additive on other bonuses.
And it gives him five bonus damage as well as well as
1.5 armor, which is a damage reduction of about 9% against physical sources. It's it's insane
He's just tankier stronger attacks faster healthier. This is everything. It's like a perfect efficient items lot and everything and
And he got the expansion dude. I think simply is playing so
Solid, I mean it's an era is winning the fight. I think Harris micro is incredible
But like in terms of macro, Harrah simply has everything he needs at the right time
and is not doing anything super stupid.
I think he can, I mean a lot of times Harrah is sitting around, like he's just not-
Oh, okay.
Now I got to see what he's-
Wait, he's pushing over 50, hold on, Harrah's pushing over 50 and simply is staying at 50.
This could be a really big advantage if Harrah fights this early without simply pushing over.
That could be really scary for him.
going for the hero focus use this there it is used it he's catching the wait a
minute hold on the special heroes out of mana a mess pretty good comes good
coil know the demon on it right now it's do some good mana burns some bears are
going down he can't staff he cannot staff that is that that demon hunter if he
goes for a hero focus now that the AMS is over it could be really simply got the
Naga pretty good fight for her all things considered. He's gonna morph more destroyers. Those need to be targeting
There's just two bears left. Oh, oh
Yes, he's deepy good deepy by simply nice deepy nice deepy kill the two kill yet
There's two flying things. She gets that extra ways, bro bro
Look at these two fiends and two destroyers that Hera survived. No, they were so how are those alive? Oh
Oh
Creepy fun wrong this first like eight pop or something. It's a huge idea
It's like unit five. Okay, but like you kill it and it feels big. It's good. They're 300 gold
There's 300 gold 125 wood five population. They gave a lot of experience
You want to take them down any chance you get for sure? Let's see what the item
I had decided to buy a heel scroll so he's gonna try to take down this gold mine
But look at this demon honor level 5.4. I mean back in again Naga
No, I think so.
He already did six.
This is very scary.
He has no safety on his heroes.
Yeah, the fizz is still weird.
If he faints, he's going to bait him in with Healing Scroll.
And he's in a hero focus.
You got to use it though.
You got to use it.
He didn't use it.
He lost one.
He's not using it.
But the Naga is melee.
She's melee.
She has no top portal.
She's down.
The Healing Scroll comes through.
Naga's dead.
Naga down.
Solo XP.
It's a strategy again.
He wants solo XP.
Oh, I see.
This DK, this DH is in danger right here.
Yep.
The destroyer's come out, he doesn't have much to do with this.
You gotta run, you gotta run.
How much mana?
Regumination!
Metaforbuses!
Holy shit!
Solo Xp!
Solo Xp, baby!
They did it twice!
The Simpsons tried!
There's no way!
No way, dude!
Dude, we gotta get him on, guys.
Yeah, but you gotta get him on.
You gotta get him on.
I didn't strad we gotta get him on that's crazy
Yo motz, please fucking second hero, bro. Please get in here and upset. Ah
Man, that is crazy upset. That's a huge upset. Yeah
Man, that's awesome. Yo, yo
Simply
I'm so lucky
You're sure still on bro. I heard your shirt was coming off you win that game
That's what everyone said in chat. No, no, no the shirt comes off of my leaves. Okay
Well, actually someone just redeemed to go shirtless
Now I am complete, you know double metamorphosis talk to us about your strategy of
Removing the Naga from the fight so you can get solo XP in battles
Yeah, so obviously, you know, the XP is based on which hero is closer and like if the hero soaps up the XP
I was like, you know, my demons pretty close to five slash six. I'm like, you know
How much is Naga really gonna do in this fight?
I'll just leave Naga at home and I'll get six right as I hit 50 HP and then I'll go
Metamorphosis to keep him alive because obviously the demon hunter is always the the honeypot, you know
You want to kill him, but you can't because he is fucking broken. So yeah
I kind of just play around that and it's pretty simple
You actually played the map so extremely well
You never attacked the undead base and in this map that you just played in particular when you crept the top left gold mine
It really became clear how much you wanted to remove creeps that are around Hera's base not giving him a chance to make a comeback through farming
Yeah, I tried, um, I obviously got some advice from some of my coaches. Um, you know, don't
attack the undead base. That was the one of the first things I learned ever, but I thought
I could overpower it. Um, but I realized with one base, it's just not worth. So I was like,
all right, I have to get the advantage from creeping, expanding. I actually forgot I had
the expansion. I looked at the bottom of the map. I was like, Oh my God, I built the expansion.
And then I was like, all right, we're chilling.
We're chilling, bro.
We're big chilling.
You played awesome, bro.
I mean, legitimately, that was a really great game.
Like, fundamentals.
You just, good timings.
You got, you hit your everything on time.
You didn't get pressured when Hera came to your base
and tried to kill Wisps.
Like, you handled that pretty well.
I don't know, you got to feel good.
I assume that that was a pretty sick series for how much
you've been grinding.
Thank you.
I honest to God, I feel like I got lucky as fuck.
I'm not going to lie.
like I I I know I played well but like getting demon six right as he's up to
die both the game both times it was disgusting that was disgusting like if
I'm here I'm like bro come on like what the what the actual fuck it's just
good because both times to get it you had to lose your other hero in a really
bad way or like not bring it or die but it it paid off it's so funny that it
worked out that way. Yeah. Yeah.
I can't believe it. I thought I was going to get to out again.
I got kind of owned. Oh, here's here. Yo, here dude.
Yo, what up? You had your shirt on. That's why.
No, I just took it off. You were facing me with shirt on.
And I still lost. That's crazy.
No, I'm not even going to lie. Get in level 6.
Honestly, I mean there's luck elements on both sides. I think he played really well. You definitely play better than me
And I think you had great creeping on this the one thing I noticed your creeping is clearly better than mine
So well played. I wasn't about to luck. It wasn't about luck. That's for sure
Thanks, man. Good luck in the in the I know you're gonna fucking chop through the loser's bracket. So
Maybe it's gonna be tough because there's pox in the matter. I think wait
Yeah, you you basically face the winner of pox the matter
I face the loser or maybe Tyler wanted to make another one. Yeah, I know I face the loser and
Yeah, you probably get the winner of that match. So that that's really important for us
We'll see what happens. I'm just glad I can chill now. I didn't think we're gonna play right away
I was like, oh my god, bro back to back games
For today simply you did you did a good job? Yeah. Yeah, you're done. Oh true
Ooh, wait, I'm free, but I'm gonna walk.
I'm sticking around.
This shit is so hype.
This is like seeing it all come together
these today and yesterday, bro.
It's so sick.
It's been so fun.
It is so hype, man.
I just feel like matches I wouldn't normally be so excited.
I'm like, I'm so excited for God,
this marriage to be after yesterday.
It's like a super exciting moment.
Oh my God.
That's so nice.
Like all these matches, man.
I want to see how Pox and Yamato can and match up
because they're so, they're both good,
but their box is wildly different.
I just interesting.
I'm very, they're going to be good.
It's going to be a good day.
Yeah.
I disappointed you today.
You gave me the night off sauce and I let you down bro.
Well, I also gave simply some stuff too.
So I did.
I feel like I was playing both sides.
Playing both sides, bro.
I was going to change whoever was winning.
To be fair, HR told me, he basically told me what,
yeah, what everyone else is saying,
just don't fucking fight in the base.
Like that, that.
True, true, true, true, true.
Undead base is just, ugh.
Yeah, to be fair, I'm like actually an honorable undead player.
I don't, I don't cap my base.
Maybe I should, but I don't.
That's true.
No, no, you are.
You are.
I respect that a lot.
We fought out in the great outdoors,
where I love to eat.
Yeah, the great outdoors.
Always on my creep camps,
when my items are dropping,
but yeah, in the outdoors, not a lot.
Yeah, the snipe on the fucking potion, that,
that felt so good.
You know what happened, bro?
I had six items, and one of them is a clock of shadows
on my DK.
No, have a bad fight in the game bro.
That's crazy.
The best item.
What can you do man?
So we're gonna go ahead and prepare
for the first lower bracket round.
Atriak, you wanna stay for another?
Do you still have time?
Are you interested in Tyler versus Maxim?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, okay, so we're gonna take a short break.
Then we're gonna have Atriak stay for another cast
and then we're bringing on Red Panda as well,
that's going to be joining Atriach and me.
Players, GG's, we'll be seeing more of you.
Ampe, thanks for joining.
Maybe again this weekend.
Thank you for joining very much.
Thank you so much.
GG's.
How's that, boys?
All right, we'll take a few minutes break
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Don't know if I should keep playing it. Let's see. We got our next series ready.
Who do we have in voice? Let's see. We got Atriak. Leon is here already.
Simply is still in the chat as well. All right. Let's get started with the next one then.
ever but a couple things change you just get an expansion of weight he feels the pressure instead of you
yeah and then just force them out of his base and then it's not yeah you're fighting on you
let's say they're still talking then i will just leave them talking and uh you can just show simply
and uh atriok editor and i'll go take a totally break like you use the staff so well you're always
staff and stuff out you always get the staff on time and so like well you can get out of here i think
Okay, we're in here. Bye peace. All right, hurry up. Good luck y'all. Bye. Bye bye.
Oh, were we live? I don't know. I don't know actually.
You were nice to meet you.
So I think I'd be playing it again today. We're doing Hitman Horse today. Oh really? Nice.
You probably remember Ress, your cutter. He works with us now.
Oh, that's awesome! Yeah, Ress and Schell. Yeah, he's great.
Yeah, he's awesome. He also pitched me a lot of stuff that he liked, that you did, for example.
That's hella cool, man. I'm glad he's doing well.
What race did you play when you were playing Warcraft?
Last tournament I was in, in the second invitation I played Orc and this invitation I got motivated again to play and I tried out a little bit of Night Elf, but I played some custom matches with Maxim today to get him prepared and I just played one Orc match to get him prepared a little bit for Tyler and what can I say, Orc is so much more fun than Night Elf.
Preach.
See, Ajork, you shouldn't let me race with you.
It's so much more fun on the other side.
I liked it better when we outnumbered you, Grobby.
We had two Nidals here.
I'm getting ganged up on, dude.
The thing about Nidals is, if we're ever not the majority in a call,
everyone hates on us because it's the most hated race.
I've already figured that out from weeks of game.
I mean, my biggest revelation was switching to Nidalf.
How much easier this to climb MMR.
They would see!
I'm saying this, they don't prove it, none of that is proven by fact, you can't agree with that.
It feels from my side that, the thing about Orc is, I'm gonna say this out loud because I don't know the game well,
when I'm fighting Orc, either they have dumb, easy units to fight like grunts and I'm like, oh, I get it.
Or they have an army of like 16 different weird looking units I've never seen that are all casting buffs on each other
And I see a hundred glowing orbs all and I have no idea what's going on and it's like and they just roll me over
Yeah, but it's also as hard to to micro all of that and get the spells right and don't get overwhelmed yourself
They work I speak from experience probably but I must I'm just scared is that what I see that
And I feel like it's a coin flick every day
You get the dumb orc or the smart orc and the smart always rolls me
I actually feel the same way about Orc as well.
Sometimes you feel so clumsy with a lot of dumb units and don't do anything.
I remember once I lost my Blade Master, I had a shadow in 60 population of headhunt
and raiders, and I lost to 300 heroes, like 20, 12 with 60, like why are raiders also
stupid?
You want to get to Bloodlust, Healing War, Torrents, Wyverns and Raiders, but it's hard
to get there.
Yeah, I did not.
So as you know, you did this tournament kind of early
from my time.
And so I did not get to see, however, as Tyler won.
You have any indication on what Tyler won's form
looked like in that game?
Like, is he?
Tyler did.
Is he looking like he's?
Tyler did two war stumps on air.
Like when he was AFK, like in his base.
As like a stomp stomp clap, like at the game going,
like here we go.
Yeah, buddy, you're a big man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that wasn't great, but he also had moments of brilliance, moments of inspiration.
So obviously it's a 2-1.
Micro sometimes looked a little sloppy, but he dominated much of Lost Refuge.
He had good decision-making, good creeping, understood his power spikes,
and his first five minutes always looked quite strong.
Good micro, creep steals, ghoul kills, skeleton kills, and so on.
But Hera, he was leveling up in the series.
He played a lot of pressure. He kept close contact.
He used his destroyer timings, and Tyler chose to play map control style with Raiders and Walkers.
This is a two-minute window where it dominates on dead, and at this level it's probably more like a five-minute window.
But eventually, when destroyers come out, that starts being kind of self-subotaging, trying to use walkers against undead.
So Tyler obtained an advantage in game two with that, but in game three it couldn't materialize.
I see.
But I think that I watch it because weakness right now will be the power rifle maximum
I think because the mental damage is also a lot very very huge in this matchup. Yes
Yes, so I don't know but my understanding is that maximum is a one prick pony not a bad way
But he's a power rifle. Yeah, one hundred one build. Yeah, okay
He played other things before but for the purpose of this tournament to manage his time
he decided to
Yeah, to do it in this way to just stick to one build so that he doesn't need to
Worry too much about trying to learn the game properly with counters and responses
That's just gonna do his timing
Okay map intro
I'll be on mute for a second. We're gonna do map intro and then we'll jump into it
All right, Atriac.
Grubby, anything to cheer your screen?
Yes, yeah, I don't want to just start.
No, I brought it back to you because I interrupted you.
I don't remember what I was saying, but I always I see my Tyler one
I think obviously Tyler one's the favorite here, but I don't know you I've heard tell that
Palo rifle makes him irrationally angry. Maybe it throws him off. Maybe it's gonna be some emotion there. Yeah
So the mental damage could be a boom here and it would be I mean we got to say it based on all the trash Tyler's talked
If this is a Palo rifle exit
First in the losers bracket a pretty disastrous showing for Tyler one overall
He obviously got a horrible first seed fighting hair around one there
You know it's a you're this is the craziest seeded bracket of all time
But he chose it himself right yesterday
Herod shows him. Oh her it shows. Okay, okay
So Tyler one had to play the tournament possible winner around one which is tough for being the I think the highest evil player going into the
Yeah, the final round, but so yeah, I think if you lose is here
It's gonna be a pretty he's chats gonna not let him hear the end of it
No, no, no, I think if if Tyler loses this this may be the last time I ever get him for a Warcraft 3 tournament success
You can respond to you bro. He will not respond to you
You're gonna get blocked
But I think Tyler was at some point pretty high up in our terms right like 1500 1600 or something
Yeah, the start of the grind and everyone grinding in this game for this tournament
Tyler one was so far in the lead because of advantage from last season. Yes, and then a previous peak
I think a 1500 something yeah, he didn't reach it again this time around, but he hit the heights of 1314. So
MMR was as good or better than anyone else in the term except for maybe Yamato
Yeah, yeah, he's second in the MMR lists. Yamato is a little higher only a
80 mm are higher or so and much of that comes from the human versus orc matchup
So against human they may be very comparable actually in expected winchance the title one has a lot of demons against polo rifle
He had a catastrophic experience with it last year around in March and he's learned a lot
In fact, he doesn't even think polo rifle is all that bad anymore compared to some of shit that he has seen
It doesn't he doesn't hate it. There's just other stuff. He hates more
Yeah
But if I can tell you it's everything that's from every case can I ask you a or question so why?
Why do you ever pick farce or over the God to your blade master blade master is so much scarier on the other side of it
So I wonder why what's the farce your advantages?
There's three advantages
He can split himself in three directions with wolves and farce here so you can scout three places simultaneously
Secondly, he's the best level one hero in the game
He will win any duel against any other level one hero because of the two extra normal attack damage summons
Thirdly, he applies pressure like no one else
So you can find your way into tier two without giving away any experience as this summit is the only one one of the few
That unsummons itself when you summon new ones
So you don't give any experience even though you're fighting with them free units equals good and the last part because he's a ranged
Hero that has summons
He doesn't need to spend any money on healing whereas a blade master needs to go for an early shop
This means farce here is a money saving hero that can take the tier 2 very quickly without spending any extra money. I see
But you still think blade master is better, don't you?
I said I see this sound smart
Can we say that a maximum hasn't lost anything yet and as in fact got a little bit of it
Oh, maybe it was a rifle right here.
Oh!
I think he'll...
I mean, I think his health is pressured pretty decently.
This is normal. You're not supposed to lose any units. I mean riflemen have as much HP as the average hero.
535, so killing them is almost never going to be happening.
What's key here is that Tyler was pretty efficient with his mana, took almost no damage,
and has almost completely depleted the health and mana on the Paladin,
giving away only a single wolf and experience.
maintaining the Paladin here, preventing high-level Paladin is a very key part for Tidor to spring his build upon Maxim.
Maxim has no mana anymore.
This is what Tidor wants, he's trying to just keep him from...
Yeah, you don't have to kill anything, right, Red Panda?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So Maxim is pretty much getting somewhere out, getting some HP and trying to break this early pressure
because HALA's only purpose was to delay as much as possible that Maxim can expand or even get some
XP and headlifts on his teamwrap.
Yeah, because the pallar rifle is like a steamroller.
Yeah.
You get to the critical amount, he can just roll over the arc pretty easy.
Tigerman looks extremely comfortable. He knows how depleted he has left Maxim and he's now taking
the primary creep camp away from Maxim. While Maxim takes the loser camp,
or is it least thinking about taking it.
He was forced to make an arcane vault, which he often skips
in order to stop the pressure that comes out from the varsier
and Tyler1 jumps right back into it.
He's going to cancel the arcane vault most likely.
That means no healing and his rifles are exposed.
There is enough mana in three seconds to get another holy light
but for now Tyler1 is still getting a lot of free hits on the rifles.
Oh my goodness!
First blood goes to Maxim, but it's a share to double blood.
One rifle, one headshot, and that's in favor of Titer 1.
Yeah, he got level 2 first.
He's getting his tech ride, he's, yeah, he's macroing behind.
I see what you're saying, yeah, this is like pretty uncomfortable for the human.
Yeah.
He doesn't seem to be getting his game plan.
And normally at this time, there could be almost level 3 Paladin.
Instead, he has no health, no mana, no creeps, no nothing.
Finally gets his level 2, and he loses his second rifleman.
This build relies on critical masses.
Tyler is micro-ing insanely well.
He's actually gonna deep dive.
He says, oh, you know what?
I'm just gonna try to think about it.
He needs two more auto attacks.
That's one.
There's a town portal.
Oh, nice TP.
Where's he going with it?
Yeah.
Oh my god!
Tyler's not dead!
It's the worst part possible.
He delivered himself to him.
On a silver platter.
Got a second key robbed.
Torren Chieftain is already on.
It would be better just to save the TP and keep that money.
You could have sold it.
Yeah.
At this point, really.
Oh, that's a painful cancel on the HealSelf clarity.
I hate to see it.
Oh, that did the easy.
Take them out.
Insta uses it and it gets hurt.
I'll say this about Orcs, bro.
You guys always have 100 HealSelfs.
I feel like I canceled three of them.
You go, OK, I'll do it again.
They must cost too cheap.
That's the wizard he used to get.
They're very expensive.
They're very, very, very expensive.
It's very worth it to cancel them.
Tyler won.
Yeah, look at this.
Yeah, you have to do this
because this is your Moon Whales atrioc.
Yeah.
Yeah, oh, true.
Well, Moon Whales are really cool,
so that's not changing anything about that.
Man, I gotta say, now that you're saying it,
it's like this human is so behind on experience.
If you're getting that camp at seven minutes, 30 seconds,
Yeah, yeah.
You never left your base
Tyler's army is already looking quite good. I see glowing buffs on them which already scares me
No, that's the other guys do
The rate of up with the net so we can nap use probably
Nice scouting from Tyler at the expansion from maximum. Oh
He's going to the shop if you can steal he'll scroll. No, he's just doing solo farce here harass
I feel like Tyler got more comfortable with solo Farseer harass ever since he started practicing blade wind walk harass
Learning to manage two different armies on the map. It's not something he used to do
But since about a week ago, I think it was Knoth the totem blade wind walk
Opening and just showing up here completely stops Maxim from creeping the red spot. Meanwhile, TC is still getting creep counts
It's like you said about Hera where he got really comfortable at creeping under pressure
It feels like Maxim is not and he saw a couple wolves and he just backed off that camp which he desperately needs because he needs items
he needs levels and
Yeah, I mean if this is the push this pushes is just gonna get
Sandwich he's got a rifleman back at base
That right from it knows what's coming
He's pretending to be a lumber chopper to stay at home
It's like Tyler's getting ready to expand, you think, maybe, Leon?
Maybe with a tiny Gratol and pushing at the same time?
Do you think Tyler's the triple hero there in this matchup, or will he stick with Farse
the RTC?
He never plays 3.
Okay, okay.
So tier 3 I think is going to be for the eventual Torrents.
I think it's just going to transition like that.
Torrents, Lightning Orb, that kind of stuff, Berserkers on the headhunter.
wants to get a value upgrade. Not the best timing fight for Tyler, it's 50 versus 50
population. He has no heal scroll, no invulpotion, and snare is good. Nice micro on the raider.
Looks nice. I also have to imagine that if you get Torren versus Rifleman, they just can't
hurt it. That's why in my mind they look like tanks. They look like such...
Nice nets.
Oh yeah, wait, copy hero.
Warstomp could be big. Oh it's Shockwave. Oh my god!
My god, I didn't realize that Shockwave level 2, he goes in for the kill on the bloodmage!
Watermass could instantly disengaging, healing up, and then going back in.
That's how you want to do it, nice job, yeah.
I don't look really solid in this game, I didn't see the hairmatch, but everything looks pretty crisp.
This is nice, he immediately uses the advantage instead of pushing into a base where maybe Militia are going to get pulled,
where maybe the reserves are going to be hired and the rifle will join the battle.
Instead he's going to take one of the contested creep camps,
which is exactly what you want to do when you win a game, when you win a fight in Warcraft 3.
You don't want to get that item, though. Healing War is extremely impactful for either one of them.
Healing War will be so nice.
Left match up again.
You got it. You got it.
Nice focus fire, double free.
Yeah, recommend.
It gets scary now, this is pretty much Maxim's power spike, getting his level 3 Paladin, level 2 Bloodmage, this is all my mind.
And there's an expo to attack. The expo is kind of crazy, right?
Yeah, that's not right. Doing a slow great hole after your tier 3 without using tier 3 at all while having a supply block is not how you want to play.
And if you do, you don't want to fight. I think that is thrown in the game here.
This is the best you can hold for it from Maxim's side.
You should bring militia, right? Bring militia, build a shop, build towers, just...
Yeah, go, go, go.
Nice focus fire from Exxon.
Sucking off the tauren.
This is... this is not good.
You can teach them the base. The base is a safe camp for you.
Yeah.
Towers should just not take every fight that's being offered to him, right?
Like, he needs to get his tauren, his berserker training, don't get the expansion, get the 60 pot,
but he's not doing it. Maxin now has it, has him exactly where he wants him.
He's gonna push forward.
He's doing a body block. Yeah. Yeah
That's a speed scroll canceled the base
Hey, yeah, mom on I guess he got torn coming though
There's double time for 30 seconds away. Yeah, and our militia coming. Yes. He's bringing the militia
Stealing mom, I mean Tyler's heroes are stronger and he's at his shop
Let's focus on the Raiders.
Yeah dude, Maxim's doing a decent job with this boy.
The early struggle, really, really.
It hardened him. Any heals?
Oh, it might get him this time. Uh oh.
Where's the Vassil?
Paladin very low, Paladin! Paladin Maxim!
He got you away with the run!
How is it alive?
Healing Ward, you're huge here. Healing Ward, you've got to focus it down.
Oh my goodness, the Healing Ward is not getting taken down.
Both of them taking turns in sacrificing a little advantage, let's say it nicely.
Yeah.
What a close call.
That was a close call. I mean, legitimately, that could have gone so different.
Also, the Healing Ward was blocking Taran's chips and from getting away.
almost but now he loves it the spa you know during that
Tyler made the same mistake he did against Hera which is he box selects his
workers or uses battle stations of boroughs so that this gold mine guys
stop working but this time he actually noticed it during the very panicked
battle and grabbed a bunch of lumber guys and put them in gold so he blunder
and then anti-blundered we have Maxime going all the way back home he's been on
50 population all along lots of rifles in the queue without building a farm one
rifle still ignored regent scrolls here doesn't have money to buy heal pots and
he's waiting for it but he doesn't know that it's because two rifles are
hogging up his resources so max and not doing what he needs to do here to be as
safe as possible but he's gonna go for a second push he should once again bring
militia look you don't need more than 1100 lumber let's go you say that though
You never know. You never know when you're in that lumber
Yeah, I mean when humans attack I always 50 times more scared when they bring the militia because if you just even lose ground
They set up towers. It feels way scary like you can actually just lose the game instead of this
Another words is gonna be big shockwave hits every rifleman as well
The block made stops really low two rifles go down instantly very good fight by Tyler one shockwave. Oh
Oh, what is this?
The four rifles five rifles down already and no units killed almost by Maxim yet
Yeah, that TC is a tank. It's a beast. It's just taking all the fire. Oh
It's a slaughter. It's this is why the guy stayed in the lumber camp
This is what he is coming!
It's a massacre!
Oh my god, that was so close. Such a tight hold there.
Oh, Wolfblocks on the Paladin! The Paladin is going to get away with 19 health, but that was close.
Tyler now, from one father to the other, is going to deliver the punishment of attacking him in his base.
Five rifles corral, Paladin goes down, rifles go down, Tyler wins the first map!
GG. A little bit closer than I thought from the beginning. That push was solid. He did a little bit more with some militia and some oomph.
They could have just broken him. I think they thought it was a bad idea from Tyler.
I think getting a shot in maybe one or two towers up would have helped him a lot because he was staying there for like two minutes or something like that.
fighting away with with Tyler in his base and I think if he doesn't drop the
healing wards the fight will have ended very differently. Yeah that was a lucky
pickup. I saw this I did I did wake up in time to watch simply versus Maxim and I
think the same thing where Maxim wasn't really building the you guys called this
out but he wasn't bringing the militia and building the units that met or the
the shop in the towers that really make that push so scary. Yeah in the second
He did that but was a little bit late on it and he's all set himself in the third game
He would have probably had hit his peak and everything right, but
Maybe the fourth game is the charm I feel like he's got it in the fourth
But we gotta say Tyler really nice harassment very good control in the early game did everything he had to accomplish with the farce
opening and
Really through Maxime off this game. I think yeah, so Chad said it best
They said Tyler one's early aggression is so good. He looks composed when he's on the offense. Yeah, I think he looks way better attacking than he does
Defending so yeah, yeah
Just played one one practice match with Maxime before the series and he he really struggles with the defense and I think he
he puts he really
limits himself by
Taking so much to the one strategy. He knows I told him that maybe expanding
faster or
Getting out of the base earlier would really help him against his matchup like syncing that with me back in the days
Right, but he he really has no practice whatsoever in that that regard
So he stays with what he knows and tries to
Try to accomplish that. Yeah, I don't blame you don't want to switch strategies on yeah, I feel like that makes sense
I do think that when humans expand, it's like seems to be the best the most scary thing to fight against because if you don't
Harass it or do any damage. You just feel way behind. Yeah, I
Am excited to see I it would be cool to see so far maximum you've lost to simply to all right, so I
Don't think he's been able to get his push
Right, I think it'd be it would be cool to see one game where he just gets it down
does what he plans does his dream and I think both people will still crumble to
I think I think even based on that game Tyler one would have lost with a few
tiny tweaks from Max of Sightseam. Totally. He worked cancel with any of those
rifles a little bit more conservative positioning with the Paladin or Bloodmage
we had 12 rifles against two H two headhunters with one HP a TC with one HP
and a healing ward running away there just because his heroes dropped low was a
a timing window lost that ended up determining the game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Next map choice by Maxim is going to be Last Refuge.
I'll enter the map and we're going to be jumping into it.
Let's go.
Maxime versus Tyler, second map.
I'll screen share if you can.
Sharing.
Alright, here we go.
Okay, this is Maxime's map choice.
It's last refuge.
If needed, the final map is going to be springtime.
Springtime has more space to get around around the map.
springtime. Springtime has more space to get around a rifle squadron. Last refuge is characterized
by very tight corridors. It's going to be difficult to find a flank and to get to the back.
If this is used well, especially with the wall of peasants slash militia, this is a very difficult
army to fight into on this map for an orc. Yeah, totally. I really hated this map in the
that's up humans or
used to be a lot of that it used to be on table most for work
but it has gotten a little better the uh...
last
the the troll priests used to be available
from minute two which meant as you creep it with an archmage
now it's available for a minute three the bullish also does a little bit less
damage to summons so it's not quite the
immediate hard counter from the start of the game into farce here as it used to
be uh... leon
Can I ask why does Palo Rifle get Blood Mage instead of Arc Mage?
The Blood Mage can immediately bring single target mana to the Paladin over the course of several casts, like 2-300 mana, whereas Brilliance is such a slow release of mana,
and normally Brilliance wants to support many units in order to make it justified as an aura, but you're not going to go for Casting Units anyway.
All you're making is rifles, so all you need is devotion aura and holy light.
And also, in a sustained battle, if you remove the mana from enemy heroes, those are often
a big counter to mass ranged, so you're dealing with two birds with one stone.
Right, that makes sense.
What would you think about Mountain King instead of Bloodmage for timing?
Just no mana, right, as you run out on these.
Because it's partially about attrition. If you can just shockwave chain lightning, even level 1, over and over and over, and someone doesn't have mana, and you have as much mana as you want, then eventually those rifles need a regen scroll, heal scroll that may not be available, so that's where the bloodmines come to him.
It really ties it together.
Would you want to see an earlier shot from Maxim?
Yes.
Of course.
Backspace somewhere?
where he should be more comfortable attacking with Palad 2.
Three is not a prerequisite.
It's more important to get the timing right,
like an eight minute incursion before tier three materializes
and then really paying attention to put that shop down ASAP,
then an arcane.
You know, when I was teaching him about rushing with a shop,
it took some time for him to really adopt that mindset,
how important it is.
And he asked questions like,
is it okay for me to build a lumber mill in the attack?
Like in Age of Empires 2,
I like having proxy lumber mills.
I said, no, it's not okay.
You can eat a bit lumber, man!
A proxy lumber mull, not a bad idea.
Heal their lumber and then you'll slowly win over time.
Yeah, it's the noob fantasy, by the way.
I got that question so many times over the years.
Can you just take away all the enemy trees?
Yes.
Yes, you can. Have fun. Good luck.
Five-fosh-relevant, let's go.
Yeah, just chop around and he looks up one day.
There's no lumber to be had.
That's pretty genius.
uh... i guess uh... you know
uh... so the goal here from college to keep it is based and not let him go
creep
yeah it's all about
okay drawing this out you don't want to hard to commit loose headhunters and do
as much damage as possible it's about remaining here as long as possible
you want to be the hover hand personified never touch
but don't leave either
just want to awkwardly over around as a both of you are not really sure what to
do
what would a good human like a pro-tier human be doing this situation if you're
facing this arrest is it like it's staying here fine
or should he be really trying to muscle his way on the map
to get creep
pro-tier human would have militia crept before the paladin even finishes they
take their first rifle
and for militia and they just start creeping and as one militia is almost
dead that's where the paladin comes out
that way you have at least one creep secured already against the farce
you're harassed
that's what starts with it
And the second thing that they often do is they just put the Paladin to hit the Farsier in the face.
Seems really counterintuitive, but if you're peeling away the wolves with rifles and Paladin is hitting the Farsier,
eventually that's going to modify the Orc micro to where his Farsier really gets threatened.
It's kind of strange, but I played against it and it feels weird, but it works.
That makes a lot of sense.
It does feel
I guess what to see it does feel like Maxine
Is handling this a little bit better, but he still hasn't gotten anything so I don't know it's tough
Yeah, you know, you're right. It's so much better than last game last game
He was like 2% health 0% mana. Look you can't break this you have to pull militia here
Yeah, how much you want lumber even if you dropped a negative 20 lumber you can never let Tyler get this whereas for Tyler
He's very happy to get this of course. He's doing the right thing
It is also only training wolves against all the devs, so no health lost on the farthia
or the units.
You should have actually not killed that trapper and let it throw in a snare on the rifle
first.
That'd be super high level.
It was already throwing the animation, he killed it.
Is there a cost, I really don't know, to getting militia?
Or is it cost lumbering to turn them into murderers?
No, it doesn't cost money, but it's just lumber deprivation for most mining time.
But look, 400 lumber.
All he needs, 125 for long rifles for tier two, and then 100 for Paladin, uh, Bloodmage.
He only needs 225.
And he's got a lot more coming in on 400, so yeah, I agree with what you're saying.
It does feel like he's, he's like too scared to use militia, and I feel like, yeah, good
humans, you see, they use it all the time for everything.
It's just a nice free extra army unit.
Yep.
But still still better than last game. I mean still in a solid spot with HP and male like you said hasn't lost any units
And theoretically he's gonna be able to hit his timing even if he has heroes and blood matches on the way this game already much earlier
Man, I doesn't get the shop canceled the first time people start doing this to me in Warcraft 3
It's sometime ago now. I was so annoyed. I got so mad like you want to fight me or not. Just fight me and
he's not that I don't know he's like looking at the kid is like no which I
think is smart kind of a tough camp to be just level one hero running into but
this one seems nice okay the item you want scroll the beast create a hip
board monopult those are the three best ones not review that's all the beast oh
my gosh what the beast nice pickup that's the best it's so good for him
Streamer lock all the items in the term it's more been pretty good for everyone wanted, so yeah
Streamer lock I think maximum already fight you yeah, that's nice. Yeah. Yeah, you should pull Melissa right now
It just go all the way to dark base
He will never publish as I've learned from
Tom still pick up from Tyler optimal player for Tyler would be to steal the heel screw and not fight too much
Get damaged on the Paladin. It's the only one that can't be healed.
He doesn't mean like buy it so he can't buy it.
Yeah, yeah, De-Aye.
That's next level.
Look, now he's getting it.
See? You should have bought this.
Okay, wait, I mean this is going to be a pretty solid timing.
We're coming up on 8 minutes. He'll be a little slow, but...
Uh...
He's got to bring Militia, bro.
Big mana pot.
Man likes his lumber, what can I say?
He's got plenty of lumber.
Take all the lumber guys and go go go and this is like a pretty solid timing
It's only fair tiner stole the tome. So he's giving this one away. He gets one back
Come on militia, come on, let's go. Oh my god
Three just three volunteers he asked for volunteers not
He's out of draft!
Oh my goodness.
Every day is timing.
Tier 3 very awkwardly timed. This is the window, 8 minute plus.
You don't go Tier 3 during this. You need to max army.
This should be a Kodo, a 3rd Raider. You need to pull lumber peels to attack.
Reinforced defences is good, but this is an awkward timing to attack.
As long as the militia arrives sometime in the next hour.
Go the beast!
Squire the beast?
Oh my god.
Go the beast is going in, oh he gets that!
I have to pick up the walker.
I don't see any way for Tyler to win this.
This is crazy.
Bloodmage in front with potion of invulnerability.
He's tanking with it.
Whoa.
There's a drop of the lethal.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
Got a healer though, it's gonna end.
Okay.
Oh, there's a ballad in!
Very good.
Oh my god.
Bloodmage time at this point.
Let him die.
Yeah, yeah.
Got him!
Level three, level three.
You can't lose the hero.
Yeah.
Maybe he has support?
Yeah, he has support.
He's gonna TP?
One more rifle kill and one more headhunter kill.
Okay, Tyler lives.
You just go back, right? You just go right back.
Yes. Heal pulse, regen.
Go again.
Already build.
And get more militia and go, go, go.
Yep.
Sounds like you would enjoy human, actually, Atriok.
I'll rip that up again.
Everyone's gonna lose me and Tyler one his friends
I think I'm gonna night off. I'm a night off through and through. Oh
Shop
No, I'm just saying you seem to have a very good instinct for human like you're you're over the past two weeks
You've ruined my life. I've watched so much pro-war crap. It's so fun. I watch replays. It's actually just a really fun hobby
At night I put YouTube on and watch
cast and so I've learned more about what their matchups are but I don't like
playing human okay it's going I mean this is a good timing he's getting it
again yep he's got a shop he's healed he's nice one Kodo one Torrent is about to be
two he's immediately struck away so it doesn't get sucked he's shocked him and
the shop is going down for Tadah he's buying a monopole right before it goes
down he needs the shockwave before he gets stolen of his mana again nice
shockwave actually that's better than using it earlier now siphon cooldown is
wasted gene lighting tower for maximum torrent
there's a tower low building that's one that's what you're fighting on the
front line up in the tower okay the workers are blocking the time
these ones are brave bro these are brave frontline workers no shop but it
has 900 lumber and five peasants at home wait he doesn't shop it's all the
way over here you got a job you got a bag a little but oh tight yes yes Tyler
needs to remake the shop in the back. Yeah no shop for Tywin.
Carthus of Mana now. And the tower will finish. Taking Torrent out now. Yeah the Arcane towers
are gonna be really difficult to deal with. These villagers are... are... No shockwave yet?
And I think he has the Mana now. Yes Mana port. Torrents have no pulverize upgrades yet. They have
mini pulverize. Don't we want it? Oh very nice. Keep running, keep running. Oh the lethal! It's gonna
to be lethal shockwave mana potty kills the blood mage it's big I'm very nice nice
story either a good micro but no he'll work this time
yeah I mean the launch the pressure is on if you're human here do you build I
feel like you build more towers right there's no lumber mills you got my car
towers oh you can make our time it's mostly to remove mana I suppose the
The towers aren't even that important because you already have Siphon.
What you need is your Bloodmage back and you need to regen and scroll more often.
Oh, Rifle's supposed to be in the front like that?
Is that a point of power rifle that you heal?
Yeah.
At high-speed rifles?
Well, normally you tank with the Bloodmage because he has Hero-type armor which takes
less damage, but sometimes the amount of damage is higher than you can do between cooldowns
with Holy Life.
Six and a half seconds cooldown, so if you have a lethal of 400 HP damage on someone
in six seconds then you're gonna be half a second late with the next holy light
right and in order to mitigate that you need to not leave your blood mage so
bravely frontlining yes but you need to kind of go back and forth to just by
enough time for the next holy light to come in again and that's where maxin is
slipping up a little bit he's a little bit too much of a hero yeah yeah the two
gung-ho but look at this two Tarans low if he gets both that would be huge he has
a potion of invulnerability again on this panel then he's still 47 population
But Tyler stabilizing quite nicely Tyler's ring of protections are on the wrong hero
They should be on the target chief tip with their own farce. Oh, you got one foreign
Second one getting focused big experience from that
We're gonna suck it
You know, I created away again very nice micro by Tyler. He also has enough mana for shockwave
He needs to cast it on a good cluster of units. Look at this. Ah, the ring of protection on the Tc
That's exactly what he needed, but Maxim is back. I
I gotta imagine this is like Maxim's last chance like it feels like tier 3 stuff is super online and
Rifleman are now no longer the apex predator of
I mentioned slowly
Of the battlefield and I guess I'm gotten anything yet. I guess I'm even killed a building
Yeah, I don't know it's the clock is ticking
However time a little bit in disarray
He did finally finish his pulverize upgrades, but his dars are so low
HealSelf takes so long and he doesn't have heal pot, mana pot on the TC.
I think Tyler should not be pushing forward right here.
He's trying to push forward. He pulled Peons out of his gold once again by retaggle clicking.
And so now he's mining with just two Peons.
He's no mining.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wait, if he doesn't fix that, it's hundreds of golds lost.
And I think Rigen makes him really should try to cancel the heating solves and the mana
regen on Tyler.
Yeah, you're exactly right, Leon.
There's nothing more important than canceling HealSelf to keep momentum.
yeah and so much damage I don't do it now
this guy really took so much damage passively I think
careful with that board mage
oh yeah the bloodmage
it's a full surround
yeah
Two gung-ho with the blood mage once again getting surrounded
Those seven soldier
Oh no the militia are on
At 15 minutes 26 seconds the perfect time
They're killing the tariff!
That's a skill for tariff!
That's the bravest militia
But the rest of the weak riflemen are falling
The militia got the job done when the riflemen cut him
Shockwave mana is back on the field
Let's see if titer's gonna notice it
Yeah, that's huge.
That's positioning from Tyler.
He's buying a scroll as he flees.
With Tyler 1, it seems he's still in this tournament.
Moving on, ideally to the next round, it seems, unless there's an incredible comeback.
But that's GG.
Wow, Tyler 1 gets the 2-0 victory.
Maxin falls by the wayside. It's a shame.
shame he was so close to actually getting a victory there but he couldn't quite get it done guys
two times also yeah two times pretty close gg for talk of tea who does he face uh loser of what
She's tighter when she's two oh it's well it's good that was so much fun
I suck so much but I suck to not enough
Where did you learn to suck like that? I learned it from Tyler
Sucking person I know he sucks sucking resistance
But it was so much fun and I think I approved a little bit, but the elo difference is huge.
I am just not that good.
You did really well. You got some sick items too. You hit the scroll to be stymied. You had them on the rope.
So many torrents got away with one HP. You pressured. You front lined with your blood mage.
You brought peasants. You brought shop. You brought towers.
But sometimes the DPS was just slightly too high for blood mage to survive until the next Holy Light.
That's true. Sometimes it was super close.
And also I have a new suggestion for Warcraft 4.
Ineval potion for humans, 50 gold.
Max! That's fair.
A better shop would be awesome. But it was so nice.
I wish it was best of 7, so I can improve more.
But he's just way better. It's so clear.
Unfortunately, you are our first eliminated player.
Maxime, can you say what role Warcraft had in your life the last few weeks, like you joined this event for fun, maybe not with the 100% belief that you're going to be the number one with it, but you joined, you had fun, you did your best, how do you feel about the last few weeks in this event?
For me, it was nice to train one race, so I played walker 3 in my childhood.
It was fun, the campaign was amazing, and Warcraft breathed a lot of games that I played later, like Dota and League.
Playing it competitively was fun, and also to learn the parlor rifle stuff, because the playstyle before was like Yamato,
And it's the Archmage MK is also kind of fun, I guess, but power rifle to to be annoying as fuck because I don't have that much time to train so I have to be just just ugly and annoying and it was it was so much fun
But it's a really hard game for me like RTS is the the king of all games, I guess what when
when based on just the exhaustion you feel after one game, two games, three games or
herra like best of nine in age two, that's ridiculous. But I really enjoyed the coaching,
Leon, Graviu, Leon from Bonn-Tra as well helped me so much. And that was like the best part,
learning new stuff and getting better and seeing I was able to beat people who had like
like 10,000 of games on ranked,
they are gold or bronze or somehow some bad stuff,
but it was still enjoyable that you can prove.
But I'm not that flexible.
The next step would be to mix up the build.
Well, if you ever want to learn anything new,
even after the event, let me know.
I love hanging out with you and teaching,
or we can play games together.
It was super nice for me.
But also I'm really glad.
So I have a free Sunday with my kids now, it's like amazing.
I can, when it's the next LAN party or something,
if you play Walker 3, I know I will be fucking annoying with Walker 3.
It was so great to have you.
Thank you for your games and enjoying yourself.
It was a lot of fun to watch you and getting to know you a little bit as well
because we were in the same World of Warcraft event,
the German World of Warcraft hardcore season,
ZAWA crowd in January, but we didn't really get to hang out, so now I know you a little
better and I'm thankful for it.
Yeah, me too.
I will raid you now and then have a great evening.
I hope everything is working well.
Hey, Tyla!
GG!
GG's, bro!
GG's!
So nice!
You have like the best micro I've ever seen.
You're trolling.
You're griefing.
That's a glaze, brother.
You can see me, brother.
I couldn't get the fucking items off of my farsier for literally 10 minutes.
Oh, I know that. I know that. I know that's really a hit of a throw.
Oh my god, my shop was in the bag. I couldn't...
Fucking Orc! Has to immediately heal saw everything.
They have no fucking heals at all.
I'm sitting there fucking dropping shit. My mouth slipped off my fucking...
Yes, I was like, what the fuck?
Well, but your earlier rest was amazing.
Yeah, yeah, I could chill with that. That's...
Oh, you got your shit beat. I'm not gonna lie, brother.
I was painting like a drum there.
Yeah, I just... I just...
Played me a lullaby.
No, I got totally fine.
Good, bro. You played that.
You tried your best.
Yeah, I did. I wish you a good luck for your next game.
I think it's... is it Terra? No, it's decided...
No, it's Flip. It's a bracket Flip and it's tomorrow.
Ah, it's tomorrow. Cool. Then, good luck. Have fun with your family and have a great day. Bye bye.
Wait, so that guy here, do I have to stop talking now? Can I keep going?
Yeah, you can keep going. What do you have to say?
This is bullshit, by the way. It's Orc Shit's track. I can't play this game, bro.
Why do we not get tier 1, tier 2 healing?
I'm not trying to solve forever!
Give us Orc Wells or something, and they just passively heal our region and mana.
I don't know, bro.
You can go ShadowSecond with Heal Wave, but it's weak at level 1.
I lost strategically, by the way, to Hero.
That gets a clown, by the way. I wish you'd come back.
Let me get my rematch and this loses back. I'm gonna body him.
I lost on purpose by the way because look who my semi-final matchup is now, or my quarter-finals.
As I get Dante's or Mary, maybe.
Yeah, no.
Oh yeah, you're right actually.
You're right.
That's fine.
Playing the long game, that's a strategy.
Smart, smart. Who are you hoping for?
Mary. I'm sick of playing Sun Dead, but Mary.
I think Mary beats Dante. Is there a game next?
Is there a game next?
Yeah, no.
It's Poxy-Mata Cannon first, then them, then the upper bracket, and then the lower bracket.
So yeah, it takes a little bit.
You'll know after like three more series.
Okay, so I think it's going to be...
Here are my predictions for the two.
I think Mary beats Dante's.
Yep.
I'm a little bit nervous about Pox here, I'm going to be honest.
I think Night Elf is looking very strong for all of us, I'm going to be honest.
we all struggle pretty heavily against Night Elf.
He does some cheesy shit and I watch his games,
they all went 30 minutes, knowing to play against.
I don't know, I'm kind of thinking of PoE there.
Going a mile to win this, I feel like he has more time,
but I don't play against human,
but I don't play against Night Elf, I don't know.
Basically, you only want to play against Orc.
The only player.
Oh, I hate Orc, I'm here now too.
I'm a four-tower.
No one, there's no Orc, no humans, I'm dead now.
God damn!
Well, I don't know how to do the brackets where that is not a problem.
Are you ready?
All right.
Did you guys?
I did this time.
Did you say hello?
Did you throw up?
Thank you.
Also, really good sportsmanship from Maxima.
I just wanted to say that was really cool.
His speech at the end.
I mean, he seemed like he really genuinely had a good time and didn't have any saltiness
about losing it.
That was cool.
Yeah, that was really nice.
guys, maybe I'll catch you again for another one.
I hear that I have another lineup of people ready to cast
the next series, Pox vs. Yamato.
Hope you guys catch a little bit of the rest of it
and maybe we can get you back all again.
Thank you so much for joining me, Atriak.
Thanks guys, have fun.
And Leon.
Thank you for having me, bye bye.
All right.
All right guys, take one minute break
and then we're gonna be back with the next one.
Here we go.
On Saturday the 16th and Sunday the 17th of May
In 2026, the Altar of Champions in 1-on-1 and main tournament will be played out.
Our eight contestants are ready to go at it in 1-on-1.
The winning team from Friday's Clan War has their picks of who they want to face in the
brackets.
With the winning captain having first pick and then they delegate the second and third
pick to the most deserving players of their team.
That happened yesterday and soon I'll show you today's brackets.
Most matches are best of three with the upper bracket finals, the lower bracket finals and
the grand finals being the best of five.
The grand finalist that comes from the upper bracket finals will have an advantageous map
selection system.
$8,000 is up for grabs in this Alter of Champions 1-on-1 tournament, with the champion taking
$3,500.
The prize pool was sponsored by Blizzard and this event was made possible by all of you
guys, the eight participating streamers, and all the co-casters, moderators, and everybody
that helped.
I'm Grubby and this is the Alter of Champions, the 1-on-1 tournament.
Let's play!
All right. All right. Here we got the next series underway. It's going to be a series
of the upper bracket round one of the second half. It's Pox versus Yamato Canon. I'm joined
by none others than the man of the hour, the first upper bracket finalist. Simply. What
up, man?
Grubby. It's so good to be here, man. Is it cool if I have my shirt off for two more minutes
or try to put it back on.
Yeah, that's cool.
Two more minutes.
I think you earned it.
It must be hot where you are.
Yeah, no, it's hot.
I get very hot very easily because I'm a big man.
So taking off the shirt helps me cool down.
Sing Sing, it's going to be your first human cast
here in the Model Canon against Pox.
Any predictions?
I think Pox will lose, right?
I think it didn't play enough.
He was being a nerd and like studying stuff, but he didn't actually put in the practice when mechanics
But then again, I've been holding every single prediction so far. So
Do I know I don't know why I'm still asking you anything actually
Folks spent a lot of time I mean, he's kind of known in this tournament now as the guy that stalls, but he has stalled pretty good
He looked pretty good. I mean, what is he? He's like the third MMR in the tournament.
He has a lot of knowledge about obscure game mechanics, but is knowing which direction a
wisp leaves a tree from based on where he approached from. Is that going to win him the game today?
No.
Oh, it might. Absolutely not.
It might. Yeah, maybe.
We don't really know.
I ironically learned like five to ten things from Pax about Markov mechanics that I
I didn't know about like what how like the way to pay this game since like that is what
times I know but he's like grubby yeah okay thank you for coaching so do you know from
which side the wisp will leave the tree like do you know the mechanics governing that interaction
so I had to find out and then tell him that's a good question I don't even know that it's
wherever they came in from apparently. I knew there was something but I thought it was like
roughly roughly from a direction but it's actually the exact identical location it went on the tree
from is where they'll leave again from. It can be relevant, can be relevant.
I'm very excited for this match I feel like this is these are this being in round one is crazy
and I know it's obviously because of how yesterday went down but I thought this was
is going to be a match we'd see in maybe round two or round three, Pox and Yamato being
at the higher end of the MMR spectrum, but we're getting it right here in round one.
It's going to be a crazy game.
Did you think you would have done something like this simply, like picking like the highest
MMR opponent if you had gotten the choice to choose?
No, absolutely not.
I would have picked Mary, and then just rolled their ass.
kind of crazy by Pox there, but he's gonna do that.
He has done that, in fact, picked Yamato Canon, shooting for the stars.
And now we've got this crazy matchup between the two top three MMR players.
Getting people in the lobby.
Do both of you want to join individually, or are you good to watch my restream?
I'm doing it.
Okay.
All right, the shirt's coming back on. Let's do the shirt.
Okay, I'm going to join the lobby real quick.
There is a lobby?
There is. The game name is in general chat.
Oh, that's right. Yeah, I'm in the channel.
First map is randomly selected to be Hammerfall.
I think that's the first Hammerfall of today.
I don't remember seeing it before. It's been banned a lot.
uh... lucid specs will be between echo aisles
and tight hunters
her photos uh... a camp where a human can expand on two different gold mine
locations
uh... one of which needs to be crept by pooling the camp with the footman
the matter can and after finishing the tournament clan war yesterday
was getting drilled
by his drill sergeant death not
for another four hours.
Yeah, Yamato's insane.
He's been crying in his ass off with the coaching,
Pox as well, they've both been absolutely going at it.
Do you think the drilling helped?
Did it, was it a productive set?
I think if the drilling didn't hurt him, it helped
because it was honest, no bullshit advice
of someone that did care about his performance.
I do think it was potentially very tiring to stay up that late when you've got match on the next day, but then again, they were in the second half.
It was devastating, man.
Oh, just the things he said.
Like a disappointed Chinese parent getting a B instead of an A.
Ridiculous.
Yeah, you, you, you, uh, you recognize that approach a little bit.
There were there were some people. No, my parents are very kind.
Okay, but it's very stereotypical.
But there were people in chat that were saying like, as someone that has a Russian girlfriend,
I recognize this. This is me.
As someone else was saying, this is like bicycle practice by my Russian father.
Yamato kind of seemed to be able to pull up with put up with it though and finally enough,
the kind of harsh coaching he was getting.
I had two people tell me in discord DMs, I wouldn't be able to take this.
I count myself among that list as well, but Yamato, extremely resilient of spirit, demanded
practice 12 to 14 hours a day that has his wife's wedding anniversary with himself, of
course, his, the anniversary between him and his wife, so I didn't mean to make this out
as weird.
That was the day, that's the day, by the way, and he's giving up celebrating that today
with her permission, with her approval, and with her encouraging him to do well in this
tournament. This is what it's all about for him. This is a chance for him to get personal
glory after normally working from the shadows as a coach for a pro league team. Both players
are ready. I'm going to do map intro. I'll see you guys on the other side after I get
the ready from Yamato Canon. And we're going to be discussing the finer things of what's
going to be happening here. Yamato Canon already ready. We're going to jump into it.
Oh, oh, wait, you, you, oh yeah, I tried that sing.
This grubby note that Sing Sing was a famous Dota 2 player, I know I didn't know that.
You were Sing Sing?
Not so famous.
I've been like two years man.
Pretty famous, pretty famous.
Actually you're part of the reason there are no Dota players invited.
That's suffer from success.
Sorry we have a lobby disconnect.
If I can get maybe my mod explain where the problem lies then I can try to...
Do I close walker 3?
Yeah, you can try to close it up, Jamsen.
Open it again.
Usually we have like a diagnostic.
A Cloud9 syncing was huge, it's being humble.
Yeah, I know, I know.
Dota 2 is so hard.
I've tried playing that game a couple times
and it just blows my mind.
Too many things.
This game is hard.
I don't.
You think?
Yeah.
I feel like you're underestimating
the expertise you have in Dota 2
and overestimating it in Warcraft 3 because of your lack of familiarity.
But I actually felt Dota 2 is harder than Warcraft 3 because maybe my own bias.
Yeah, you might be overestimating your own crap in underestimating Dota.
Sorry.
Now I was just thinking like, the amount of like brain upkeep you need for RTS
game is always higher than the game in Dota.
Like Dota has so much downtime where you can just kind of do nothing in a way.
But in RTS games you're always always always busy when it's macro micro doing some item bullshit on whatever scouting
So so many things non-stop
The team play component though like that always adds a level of unfamiliarity
In fact, I find Dota 2 so hard to practice because you always rely on these unknown factors
Of
I don't know how to measure animals
I don't know how to measure my improvement because it's always subject to things out of my control.
I don't know how you did it, Sing.
You mean generally improving in Dota?
Yeah, generally improving in Dota 2.
When you're playing ladder, you're playing like pubs,
and you just don't know, are am I the reason we're losing or is it my teammates?
It's always your teammates, of course.
It's always your teammates.
Yeah, there's no exceptions.
But nah, seriously, it's a very hard thing to judge in general.
Even when you're winning, it's sometimes hard to say, why am I even winning in a game like Dota?
Like, the amount of analysis you need for those kind of games is immense.
And it helps a lot, of course, to have, like, third-party advice.
So don't just, like, echo-chain me in your own heads.
Yeah, that makes sense.
It helps a lot, yeah.
Brainstorming with other high-level players.
Okay, this is the series I was really looking forward to.
Yamato Kanan has been grinding like crazy, and Pox has a very particular and unique style chat.
Pox at some point decided in three out of four matchups
He's just going to play Warden always a fan favorite
This hero can only be made as a first hero and is often played solo
She's a very greedy hero as a hero that's almost entirely purely damage based
She needs all the tomes she can find all the tomes of intelligence strength and agility
Every single stat is important on her and she needs that power growth in order for her damage to remain relevant
She reminds me a lot of Queen of Pain in Dota 2, so you're saying?
Yeah, I mean Hoth's skills are the same, right?
Scheme of Pain, Shadow's Deck.
And Falling Beak?
No, actually, 3 out of 4.
Yeah, a lot of it's the same, just you don't get the silence.
At least Queen of Pain, if you're out-leveled, out-farmed,
you can still do a silence and contribute in a teamfight.
But the Warden is just nothing if you fall behind.
Yeah, it's also a very lame hero.
Like, it's not how you play this game normally.
Like all these all these warden players they're like zero fucking micro you have this guy playing like a like a League of Legends game
I like one hero just walking on killing cousins
Fucking five beer sitting afk in base every single
Like this don't play the fucking game
It's gonna rise so lazy. Let's get it right
But pox although that was his modus operandi for the beginning of the game in the last week or so
Oh, he's been successfully sometimes moving a secondary army and secondary hero.
Wow. Once. Great.
Oh no, your model cannon is messing up!
No, he's definitely going to be so disappointing.
He's going to be so disappointing.
Okay, so let me quickly explain what happened.
He pulls the camp because it's an effective way to creep it.
You disable the spellcasting by the rock column.
But while pulling the camp away, he accidentally aggro the second camp that are now mad with him.
I don't think in all of his practice this happened even once.
Wait Grubby can you screen share?
No.
Okay I'm sharing, so there it is.
Have you just been watching on the stream? Sorry about that.
Yeah, yeah I was like oh wait, yeah there's a delay.
Also Pox denied his, he denied the big creep.
No.
He denied himself I think.
No I don't think so, you get level 1.9 from this camp.
If he had denied it, he would have been level 1.4 simply, you should know this by now, that's minus 1 point to Gryffindor.
Total Tome.
Must have been a visual bug, sorry.
Some people said it did look like it did, well he didn't deny the big one.
If this camp truly is level 2 then I'm crazy but it's not the big one that he lost.
Sto-Tome, kill the water elemental, normally Yamato-Kannon would be expanding on this gold mine right now.
Or maybe this is his plan.
By the way, a lot of drilling last night with his coach,
Yamato Kanon has a special new build prepared for Warden,
where initially Yamato Kanon went 3-4 weeks ago when he started playing.
He was making a random assortment of rifles, knights and griffons.
But if he puts to practice what he learned last night,
we might be seeing some mechanical units coming out, Singsing.
Oh!
I actually saw starbound do this once where he was also exactly facing a warden and he just rushed out tanks
and these tanks were on stop like literally on stop of 100% attack uptime by the warden and his units
but his bases went down. Boom boom bang bang everything.
Might see that coming out.
You just have to watch it, you just have to watch it happen. Now there's a couple of ways to counter it
But I'm not sure if Pox knows about it. If Pox is the nerd we all expect him to be
Then he will have watched some of the coaching or had a spy tell him what would have happened
But it really depends on if his coaches are working for him around the clock
Or if he had time to watch it and then maybe he would know some counters
But otherwise it could be tough for him now Pox is getting a time here. It's arches are under attack
There's no dust of appearance. He could shout him out, but he is gonna lose his second ancient of war
I won a timing, right?
Level 3 Archmage, pushing right here, super strong.
This is what actual night elves do, this is exact timing, every game.
Sporces are under attack.
Fox did an aggro on the camp, I wonder if he did not know that they're gonna be attacking footmen.
Kind of a nice little extra damage, but he's losing arch HP as well.
Bad focus fire on the hunter's hole, you're never gonna get that.
This gives Fox some free hits and big blunder by Yamato Kanon.
He's also getting aggroed by the camp.
If Fox did this on purpose, then that is actually insane, simply.
If you just can't stop agguring these camps, I'm out of getting in trouble with all of
the wildlife of the map, toxin and some free creeping out of it.
I feel like that was a pretty good exchange for box.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, usually what you do is you send like a footprint each on a whistle and then you
just let them go ham, well the morphlings, they hit arches and stuff.
The morphlings.
They get really good...
I don't know, what the fuck are they called?
The morphlings.
The machine guns.
God, I hate it.
Machine guns?
God, I hate it. Morphling so much in that game.
It's so impossible to play against such a huge knowledge gap on how you even counter that.
It just seemed like he could never die.
Yeah, I hit him here too.
It still gets keep at the highest level.
Oh, I see.
You don't have to feel too bad about that one.
Yamato Kano with a very clean tech timing, I think.
I think Death Note probably thinks it's horrible, but to me it looks pretty good.
His expansion is established, there was significant delay.
Yamato is going to try to get to tier 3. Lumber income looks pretty healthy. He's got his arcane vault coming as well and an arcane tower being finished.
Meanwhile, Pox is ancient of Warcreeping very close to level 4 and accidentally denies level 4 creep with the AOW. It is a catastrophe.
Yamato is here to say something.
Still a nice time to fight for Yamato.
There's no units on the box.
1100 gold, 200 lumber, with 1 wispel lumber, 2, 3, and this one is walking, ok he's got
2 wispel lumber, it's cooked, oh no he's got 2 more here, never mind, alright 4 wispel
lumber in total, it's playable?
Will we be seen a shredder getting pulled out from the lab?
It's tough, there's 2 trappers, so it takes a long time to extract that shredder from that
position. Also, I can't help but notice that Pox did 0 damage to a fast expansion. One may even
wonder if he's aware of its existence. You're supposed to kill some peasants. The delay he did
here was good, but the patience he has had in ignoring the expansion can't be good news for him.
It's also hard because Yamato's been kind of on his ass, and I think that's very much intentionally
his play, just trying to wall him out from even getting down there. Dryad sitting comfortably
in the great outdoors of the base.
See if they come out to the hero.
Look at these filthy items for the Archmage.
And it's exactly like you said simply.
He was on his ass, drawing away attention from his own bases.
And now, using a Zeppelin shredder
to get a more quick, lumber mining situation,
drop it on the other side, then bring the Zeppelin back in,
and maybe attack Wisps from the back.
I thought he was going to do something so smart.
Oh, wait.
He's using the Zeppelin primarily defensively
to stop what he knows Box is going to do.
Look, Pox didn't pick a second ability yet. Sometimes you go Shadow Strike, sometimes you go Blink,
and if you never needed Blink, then why pick it, Five Head?
So he's got two unpicked abilities by design, gets his own shredder as well.
Soon, when Warden gets level five, or now, Pox is going to want to do Blink, Fan of Nights, Peasants, Harass.
Problem is, this works best against the one base player.
Additionally, Yamato Kanon expects this so much, that when the Warden comes in and blinks in,
which Pox often does, he's gonna escape his pheasants into a Zeppelin.
One Zeppelin per base is one of the main counters to deal with Warden Fan of Knife's Arras.
How will Pox be able to adapt if Yamato applies this well?
And he even do it though.
Look at all these towers coming out. It's gonna get blasted.
Two arcane's in a guard, one arcane, guard
and another guard. He comes in here, he's gonna jump in,
he will take mana damage from the arcane and he doesn't have level 3 fan yet, so
but this won't even do that much.
Without an AMS potion or Inval potion,
this is very expensive monolies.
A player's forces are under attack.
Meanwhile, Yamato should be doing something
with his archmage, but he's stun locked
as the very thing he dreaded all this time
comes to fruition.
Oh, there they go.
Minus three peasants.
Where's that damn Zeppelin when you need one?
I don't see it.
Where is it?
There it is.
Is it flying?
It's coming.
It's too late.
A little bit late and the tier 3 is so cheesy the tier 3 is way too late
He had enough money to get this for a long time
Starting his workshops now for the steam tanks the sea tangents rather and having his tier 3 and shredder ticking away
Still spells good news for your mother cannon
Second Zeppelin
One in the expo one in the main all the pieces are on the board for your mother to play a great game
but his mountain king was delayed his castle is delayed I I don't know if he
needs a third workshop it's not full cheese it's just double workshop siege
engines and the rest is gonna be like nights this footman production I don't
think death note would be happy with this one now you just save up money for
nights footmen don't do anything anymore
That's a weird situation.
I get a feeling that the pork should have been more aggressive.
This is how it plays well.
You should play one base against two, right?
The average game length for people is 14 minutes, his is like 20 minutes.
And yes, you are against two base.
This is not okay to play this kind of style against two base.
You need way more actual all-in power, but that's where his weak spot is, Sing Sing.
Yeah.
Yeah, at least it's a bear so I can AFK, it's good to see.
Kind of.
But then it's here or not.
He's going to kill some peasants.
Where's your Zeppelin now?
Yeah, he's got the Zeppelin in place, but is he ready to use it?
Seems like he's got two of them, but they've yet to really do anything.
Are you still in it?
There we go, okay.
Scooping.
Level five though, that Phantom 9 is gonna hurt.
Now everyone needs to get inside because one auto is a kill.
He's not doing it well enough. It's a cause I can't.
And look, normally you should let the Zeppelin do its work and then keep creeping your mountain king up.
Get spots on the map, but he was stunlocked while it happened. All his attention went there and his archmage is full mana and he was doing nothing.
walking back for an army like this army can never threaten more than five why
would you come back for it you should be doing something else he made even more
food men to look is 24 on the cold discuss was done why is it to make a
tank he's creeping man he's creeping he's got focus but okay let's focus on
pox for a bit we're not we're not just looking at Yamato here pox he got a
a second hero out, he's already over 50 population, which is very costly, but going for another
second hero, normally it was the Pit Lord, but now this is the first time I saw him go
Pandaren Brewmaster, that's absolutely correct, I don't know if he thought of this or he got
a gift tip, but Panda with the Fire Breath is one of the primary ways to deal with siege
engines, either he's adapting really well given the situation or this is some homework
that he did, as he theory crafted about what might be right, giving the red spot here is
is great for him. He needs Panda 3 and even 5 as fast as he can.
Oh, the tanks are coming.
There's 5. 5 coming up.
Interesting decision to blink into the army rather than going for peasants.
He can do Shadow Melt play. There's no magic sentry yet. There's no spellbreakers.
You can see now that Yamato remembers that Sancton is part of the build for two reasons.
You want about two spellbreakers to threaten her monopole? Did she just blink, Dutch?
Yeah, he did.
Nice. Sorry, I missed it.
Fucking disjoints in this game.
No, don't steal XP with the warden. Okay, he knows better than to do that.
How close do you have to be to not steal?
1200. The same range as the Glaive thrower or
50 more than the Mortar team. Is it normal to hit tanks inside the enemy base with two darts?
No, this is not normal at all. What's happening here probably never happened before in history
These are the scouts. They're just checking out making sure he's got the siege engines creeping up getting that fire breath going
It folks is doing a lot of the correct moves against this including nature's blessing
Asians of war
And talents from ancient of wind
So it's clear that he knows many of the counters to this the one area where he really went wrong is to go over 50
It's fine to play 100% income against 140%, which is what 50 against 70 would be, but it's not okay to be 70% against 140%.
Now, he cannot really scale well enough into the game.
These three archers he had should have been killed a long time ago, and he's doing that now.
This is good, but he already lost a lot of money.
The warden creeping in the shadows. Here we go. Will the zeppelins be utilized? It's
gonna be hard this time. Big fan of knives.
It's a react fast. There's no zeppelin here anymore. Wait, where did it go? I thought
he had two.
There is no zeppelin. Huh?
Where are the zeppelins? Oh, are they shipping in the tanks?
Oh, he's stuck. He's stuck.
The trees surround, the greyed out doors are not so greyed anymore.
Alright he's all good.
Palladin is here, he's separating arc mage, this is a good play.
He also has Staff of Sanctuary, Orp of Slow, Solo XP, well Duo XP to Mountain King and
Palladin.
What's the item going to be?
One of the wins.
Pretty useless.
Just sell.
Two tanks going in.
Is this...
Oh!
That's what he said!
Oh my god!
It's happening!
Instant!
Here it is!
What the fuck!
wait I think that's a misclick no I don't think he meant to do that
oh my god what is happening why is pan down shadow melt
okay fire breath get fire breath get fire breath coming in to regenerate his moon well
where's the warden oh he's panicking he was gonna do uh harass but he's gonna come back
to defend one more while down already second one getting attacked yeah huge huge fan of knives
No staff use.
Alright, P to the Valley.
Uh oh.
Okay, nice TP there.
Got a couple of Moonwells.
I think two Moonwell kills.
Pretty good.
Yeah, three of them.
I mean, part of the damage was self-inflicted.
Self-inflicted.
The zeppelin is killing in his base menacingly. Will they kill his zeppelin in the top left
there?
Oh yeah, zeppelin is over there. There's a tank here, there's two tanks over here.
They have three one attack upgrades. There's more tanks at home. I think Staff of Sanctuary
was unused in that attack to save heroes. He's making more tanks, so what do we got
here we got like eight tanks on the field but this spread oh no you're
about to get it oh oh oh my god oh my god
such harsh words by his coach I can hear them already what are you doing
bled why are you not watching but what is books doing is auto-attacking a
workshop while getting hit by a spellbreaker that's taken away for mana at
of time. Maybe I guess there's other threats look at this dryouts and archers
against siege engines. Where's the yields from? There's just tanks everywhere man
good god. I think this is still Lady March for books to stop you know he sold
this town port. Never mind he's got it again he bought the town port again. Ancient
a war going head to head with these tanks it's not gonna be a great battle
there's like a few tanks inside the base already
yeah I think this is very bad for Pox here he's gonna lose some moonwas that he
can't afford to lose he should bring shredder
he needs talents he needs to repair he needed more engines of war he needs to
townport a home
and instead he's spending time fighting things that cannot die
nights workshops seeds tanks and finally he TP's out
It's a very good play by Yamato Kannon as some of the army at AFK, Pox is flustered, he
saves his avatar vengeance, Panda gets level 4, but he doesn't have the mana to do enough
fire breathes.
Every single moonwell dies!
Oh my goodness, the moonwell juice, completely drained.
Not going to be making any units here for a while, he's got plenty of lumber and gold
to remake, but it's going to take some time.
You're looking forward to playing this style, simply?
Are you looking for the lane against this style?
Would he do this to me if I'm the human hunter?
This is specifically a ward encounter because the mechanicals can't take fan of knife's
damage and many things that the human makes normally would end up dying to it, but it's
not like you can't do it against the human hunter.
Hmm, yeah, I don't want to play against this, I'm not going to lie.
There's a Zeppelin dropping stuff on my base. I'm flustered. I'm shitting bricks
You know demon 6 can only do so much
More than is gonna kind of attack again, but meanwhile look at how much damage they do these are three two
Upgrade tanks. This gold mine. That gold mine killed once again
Pox is gonna go and try and defend this tank here next to a tree of life as tanks are getting taken out
Look at this. He's killing moon wells
with the drop
Can it still not be okay though when you have this many hero levels?
Yes, it can still be okay.
What if Panda gets like six of this somehow?
Oh yeah, it can still be okay for sure. He just killed every peasant again.
He's got level 6.7, 4.4 against 4.4, 2.3, 1.9.
Really big hallmarks of the build for your MatoKannon are to get MK3, Pala3.
Without those, you lose any Dota game.
Oh, there's so much XP.
Keep in mind, the person that fast expanded earlier, his goldmine is going to run out earlier
as well.
3.2k gold left, 1.2k gold with another 4.5k gold.
Is that enough to close out this game?
We have an attack here of knights and breakers.
Normally, tanks should be attacking simultaneously in another location to make it impossible
to defend for the night elf, but he's sending everything to the same location while the
The Tree of Life with the Expansion is safe.
Alright, battle breaking out here, how's it gonna go?
What do you think?
Bears versus Knights.
I feel like Pox's army very much stronger at the moment.
Level 6, level 4, it's just gonna melt them.
Phantom Knights in there would be juicy.
And he's just running, he's afraid.
This is rough actually.
Yamato is gonna be out of money soon.
He has a completely destroyed Pox's base.
Is it the split in this game?
Yeah it is.
You get 200 auto attack damage spread across your heroes.
You get emulation, taunt, magic immunity, wind walks, cyclone, dispel, it's pretty insane.
If you get to expand this would be possibly game 1 and 3 models.
I think he is.
It is down in the T.P.
Good play, good play. Decent for you.
That's what Death Note told him last night.
When he finally beat an 1800 MMR night elf
after a night of abuse
that Yamato asked for, he said
that was decent
for you.
How did he beat an 1800 player though? It's crazy.
Yeah, with no life coaching
for the most part
playing over and over
the guy did say he was drunk but still beating an 1800 warden player. His fourth attempt after
Death Note showed what to do as well several times. It was still really really impressive.
Yamato Kanon worked hard for this. He's struggling this game though. He knew what to expect from
box and he tried to action everything that he learned but he's trying to do last minute exam
practice. Oh this could be a huge fan of knives, spellbreakers. This is a light reach. Is this okay?
single hero oh
This is not a sex okay, you need to put the mountain king in the direction of bolt. He's doing it. He's so smart
You're not so fucking smart. Is he gonna get the kill from this?
Man that is insane that is insane
That was such a good play and had he done the same thing again with the second charge of Cyclone on Paladin. Oh
Oh wait, he doesn't, it's a bug in the UI, there's no second charge.
Okay, he did everything he could, warded BS.
The prediction of where he was going to blink towards and then the bolt was such a good
play.
This move feels illegal by Yamato, I don't think he's strong enough to be coming forward.
This is a moving forward in order to expand at the same time, just like he was taught.
He's trying to take a third behind this and he needs to because he'll be out of money soon.
But we're not just losing too much.
Yeah, he will lose too much.
Especially if he's feeding.
This Altar also doesn't matter so he's attacking the wrong thing.
Oh, that tank is gonna give so much XP if he kills it.
6.9 on the ward.
Where's all the supply for Yamato cannon?
This is like the smallest attack I've ever seen.
It's like in peasants.
It's all peasants.
Are they all in the Zeppelin?
It's like a gongling airy too.
Ah, he tried to holy light instead of finding the escape and the Zeppelin arcmage goes down.
55 population, he's going to be able to re-hire the arcmage from the center.
I think he has enough lumber for it, but his shredder has been AFK for the better part of 10 minutes.
He went from being very wealthy in lumber and now he doesn't have it.
He doesn't have the arcmage.
What is he spending lumber on?
Oh, he's upgrading towers.
he finally notices the shredder it's been if gave her so long about the game
running away pox senses blood oh that's a big storm bolt
staff no it does not big enough no the staff is on the dead a.m. which you should
be returning from the alter there we go
oh the canyons oh this is the drop from the air dizziness buff attack rate of
movement speed are reduced and will slowly be regained it's when you die from a
zeppelin that wasn't downed. I see, I see. He tried to abolish the mountain king but it doesn't do any damage.
Oh the dry out assassin team I feel like they could have gotten the mountain king but there's a lot going on to be fair.
Yeah, it was 5 HP. This poor tree of life has been through a lot these constant tanks,
constant abuse and I can't believe the supplies even that's a crazy game Yamato
now securing a very important third but guess what he's out of lumber so we can't
power build a package of lumber is dropped off once dropped off once again
he can resume but this is another action meanwhile he's very busy one unit goes
down is he gonna dare to target the spellbreaker twice and then blink out oh
that's really risky the box is feeling himself a little bit he's gonna try and
and he does!
Sweet!
Wow, the Phantom Knights, the tip just got the Mountain King, that was crazy, I did not
think that would hit.
A lot of bodies here to summon little spirits of vengeance that are invincible and undispellable.
One of the most bullshit summons in the game, almost as bullshit as Swarmost in Starcraft
2, but at the very least they don't last forever.
Pox really pushing himself to the limit here with his warden, but he's gonna walk away as the Avatar chases the Mountain King
We don't have enough mana to heal. Is he just gonna die to an AFK summon attack?
Not yet, not yet. Meanwhile, Seedstacks being defended. Pox uproots his tree to make a better armor type against the Tacks.
Everything goes down.
OOOH! Seedstacks being so much XP! But that's one kill away from level 6.
What the armor type changes? I don't know.
You go from siege to heavy, so it's better against, sorry, from 45s, yeah, 45s, yeah.
This is a good expansion though by Yamato, but it's not going to be a second base for
long.
His main has ran out, there's 300 gold in his expansion, it will just be this base.
Two cannon towers, two arcades, and fully mining.
However, Pox, he just mined out his main, he's going to mine from a second base as well,
And if he so chooses, Tree of Eternity could uproot and go to the third gold mine as well.
Fox doing a great job of staying in there.
So many moments where his tree almost going down, but just staying alive, coming in clutch
with the repairs.
It's a war of attrition really, against the constant tanks.
I'm not sure if this was really necessary there for, uh...
What to say.
I think he's ahead.
And kaboom.
The gold mine is gone.
I think he's ahead by a lot just because of Halo levels.
That Panda 6 is gonna...
He's gonna clap him.
But at 6 and 7 hero levels, this is absurd.
Yeah, it is absurd. It makes me throw my hands up in the air in excitement for sure.
Had to. Had to.
One dry head, pretty low.
Gonna fall to the night.
Umato cannons.
It feels like a final attack somehow.
The last ride of the Valkyrie.
He finally has his base, but he still feels like he needs to take down that base.
Pox doesn't have a lot of mana on his ward, and there's a star ball to the face.
How do you like them, Apples?
Rejuv's coming out for sure.
I want to see Panda 6.
Have you seen it before in Warka 3, Sing Sing?
Yeah, once, I think.
I mean, it was... I think it was like... it's almost invincible.
It's just so much damage, tankiness, everything.
The one thing it does do here you get exp for killing little pandas which is nice
You get a lot of exp, but you need to kill all three to kill the panda just like in Dote's
You get like a little shit. You get a little what?
The skills like the stone costs none though
No, it's not us and everything you get cyclone dispel wind walk and taunt as actives
Haunt. Yeah, okay. That's a different one
new tanks on the tree if box doesn't notice he's gonna lose the tree in short order he
only has about 10 seconds to react warden got a lot of damage to the face save the tree
save the tree up root it's in reverse he's doing what he needs to again didn't move his
main tree brings out a talent as well talent is kind of an unsung hero against seed stanks
that was eventually developed as a counter to siege tanks in 2007 by a world elite Aegee Soju.
Soju was the one that showed the way how to play against this. The deep-off in armor that
Talons provide on the siege engines is a very powerful addition. Now Pox would love more mana
on this war than the Panda, but it's not here yet. Level 3-3 sorely missing for Yamato and
therefore he has no real teeth in this attack. No hero levels, no damage, no units.
No money. No wife. No dog. Nothing. Yeah. Only sadness. Only sadness from here.
The Dota approach. Complete despair here.
Are we gonna unroot that main tree, I wonder? Or is he just gonna be chilling there? Oh, six.
Oh, six on Panda. Has been here for some time. He lacked the mana before to cast his old
Storm, Earth and Fire. He used to get that Panda back to the shop and door to Moonwells,
which do have the wellspring upgrade.
Pox is sucking them for all their worth.
Ooh, they're blue juice.
Oh man, that's juicy.
Bald Staff of Sanctuary, second staff.
I think the only way that Yamato wins this is if he takes this gold mine too.
It's kind of a forlorn hope.
But it seems like the best play.
The left one?
Yeah, he's got to take the enemy gold.
I agree, it's never happening.
oh my god the damage it's so oppressive and it's just gonna keep coming
another one this is gonna be so juicy oh man of knives everywhere oh this is so
greedy to go for one more
so greedy but he gets it he gets away with it he knows his limits and he's
testing them and by the way for pox this is still the early game
Oh, he needs Monkeying Levels. That's funny, since he's not doing damage.
Where is this tree going? Is he using it as a unit?
He's using it as defense.
Why spread myself thin when very strong trees serves just right?
He's gonna uproot it. You know, technically there's no way to know which one provides the goldmine.
And one thing you could do is he can actually untangle this one, re-entangle with the big one.
and then maybe next time Yamato shows up he's like I remember which one is the real
entangler goes for this tree and then the gold mine stays he's like oh no so smart
you stopped mining for a minute to fool me wait can you swap the roots or it's like stuck
to the one that was there no you need to fully uh an entangle and re-entangle
another ams another fan another day the early game is going well for box level eight
It's like an orc player basically.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, that's true.
It's like Blade Master Wind Walkplay.
You know one thing I realized that after I played a lot of Blade Master for many years,
that in games like Heroes of the Storm, Dota 2, League, whatever, even Warcraft, when
you suddenly don't have that free escape button with Wind Walk and Blink, you realize your
position your positioning may actually really really suck you play like a
fair hero and you're out of position there's no escape button but with more
than a blade you learn a lot of bad habits because you always get away
anyway yeah nobody buys dust just warden versus the world right now just the
slow whittling away so good wait this is what you're talking about saying saying
The pandas just afk
Yeah, this is a rewarding player
You don't need anything else except warden at this point
Yeah, it's not like there's much to farm in a map anymore. It's like two small green camps left
Well, it's a childing scouting
Yep, there's a base
He's expanding to oh god, it's actually I'll last him with three gold mines
I can do this all day since Path of Exile player POX is like yeah farming minions is
kind of what I do sometimes on release day of Path of Exile new season I play 24
hours straight yeah this is this is nothing for me buddy have fun
yeah yeah yeah all too familiar with the replayers
it's kind of funny because they ult like two to four times per year and they
They pull like a 36 hour demon stream, and then other days they're just chilling, like
in the off-season, shortest stream.
But on that weekend, they turn into something superhuman.
What's your motto cabinet is trying to do too?
Can he turn into a superhuman?
I don't know if this fight is very good for your motto, I'm not going to lie, we'll see
what happens.
Rible split!
Oh my god.
Oh he doesn't say the line in this game.
No.
The Cyclone on the Archmage, Windwalk, backstab, 50 damage on the Mountain King.
Oh, it's too much. GG! Pooks gets the first map win against Yamato-Kenneth!
Wow. GG. There's no way.
There were so many close moments where Pogs held out, you gotta give it to him.
I mean, he is playing Warden, but at the same time, he hit those repairs,
didn't lose his essential buildings, war of attrition.
Warden is one of the hardest heroes to play in the game.
I'm just following in Singh's footsteps because he's, you know...
Trying to get along with him.
He's stuck in cheese, dude. They're not playing like this games. They're playing mobile games here.
Yeah, I don't think I could do this. It's a lot to manage. I'm a happy demon hunter guy.
Especially the early game is extremely challenging for Warden.
Playing a good early game against Warden, the first five to eight minutes is of paramount importance.
You need to die experience, kill your own footman, don't give any water elementals, apply correct pressure, kill wisps, have a good expansion, have a good transition.
If all that is right, you do those 150 things right, you can dominate a warden early game.
You can even play one base against warden sometimes and have a very good gameplay style.
But Pox, he was resilient, he was resourceful, he got to his comfort zone.
I thought he was fucking up his macro, 55 pop, level 4 warden, one base against 2.
but man he dealt with those three two upgraded tanks with the knowledge that
I didn't teach him that he did his homework he knew what he's gonna face
he had the talents the ancients of war the nature's blessing and the pandaren
drew master second those four elements are absolutely key and he did all of
that with flying colors
super good yeah I think was crazy
What is the answer here? Do you think we're seeing the same game again back to back? Do
you think your mono's got another trick up his sleeve, going to play a little cleaner,
a little tighter? Are we going to go to 40 minutes?
I think it's one of two things. He's going to try the same again, but better. The Asian
approach, the grinder approach, just execute better. Or he's going to take the European
approach, the creative, the less holding in on like the exact good execution and skill
approach, but trying to sidestep the problem with another way, and he's going to go for
like a one base push with aim three into bloodmage or aim three into alchemist or something
like that.
I just say, yeah, I'm not going to punish him on the double lore when he made us, he
just kind of fucked off.
Like he was happy with his expansion and then he just let go of pressure.
Yeah, like such a big supply lead in that point too.
So it was just planning some things ahead. You guys can keep chatting if you like.
It's kind of crazy that, like, I never really think about it.
If you just outlast the early expanded from a human, then yeah, they just lose their gold mine and then it's crazy to see at the end of the day.
Pox having two bases versus Yamato's one by just outlasting them, taking out the siege engines.
It's crazy how fast those things go down.
It wasn't fast. It was like turning limits.
Well, no, I mean, like, I mean, like when you're focusing the tanks, like they die pretty quickly. They're not like a bear.
You know, like you think a tank would take more damage than or would take less damage than a bear.
bear but I guess bears really are just do they I think tanks of like fortified
armor but they yeah I think some weird shit yeah never like half magic
communities and it's not quite magic immunity this is a mean to like a bunch
of spells it's not the fire breath apparently we just like weirdly yeah some
piercing it's like all weird things that a walk off specific well anything that
hits buildings right like a fire breath works against building so the shockwave
so it works against tanks but storm bolt that's good at work fan of knives that
can work. Yeah, so he's just gonna know the spells I do. That's why the panel is so important.
It's like one of the very few heroes that could have been in the tournament. Just gotta know.
Just gotta know. First map was hammer forward was randomly selected. You must have can and picked
the second map as the loser for first map. He went with tight hunters. Tight hunters is a small
map. He's going to try and put on the pressure put on the the claps on box perhaps. I don't know if
he's just going to play expansion based death notes, playbook or do something else. We will see.
And we got to remember also in that first game, Yamato didn't get a great opener. He had the rough
issue with the camps. I don't think he got the expansion he was hoping to get. So it didn't really
go as expected. Slowed him down quite a bit. We might see a different story here in game two.
If he gets his expansion off early enough, maybe it's enough to get in there and ruin
Pox's game plan.
It's weird he didn't expand on that first gold mine.
I guess it's a choice.
I'm not sure if he like stopped it because they were so fucked up from the pool.
I think so.
I don't know if it's my design to take the left gold mine or the right
one and then the left or if like you said it's because it got messed up.
That was like a unique creep interaction.
It's usually they just go right away.
You just get those five presidents you start building.
They were basically just a glorified unit by the end of the game versus a level 8 warden.
Not even the end of the game, like all game.
Oh, I hate this map, I assume.
Because that goldman expansion here, it has that fucked up cape that's super strong.
I forgot what it does. Did it like bash or something?
No, no.
It's messed up.
You're thinking of the wrong map.
This camp has a mergal snare caster, a level 4 creep that has a slow, and there's a level 2 healer.
And then there's 2 level 3 melee creeps.
This camp over here has a turtle level 7, the other camp, the gold mine in the corner,
turtle level 7 with two turtles level 4.
The bash guy is on autumn leaves, that you're thinking of.
Oh yeah, I think of the wrong map then.
And the bash guy is fucked up.
He can just kill a person of half HP while you're playing.
Very curious to see what Yumato is going to do.
Same playstyle as last game but better.
Or one base.
prediction simply? I think Yamato, he sticks with his guns from what I'd seen. He almost
always goes for an expand. So I think he's just going to go for the same thing. I feel
like he kind of has to. Otherwise, Mordyn's just going to get in there and do a ton of
damage. Yeah, I mean, he did it. He did it pretty well last game. Like his opening was
good, even with the fuck up with the people. Yeah, he wasn't a really good spot. He just
had to push a little bit harder on aggro before he eventually went back after the
lords went up. I think he missed a couple of key timings. Remember the tanks did so
much. They killed Monoiles towards the uproot of the tree. He was two base
against one. During that moment in particular, that's when he should have
been getting his third, not when he's nearly blood-dry on his own income. If
that third would have given him the resilience he needed, and he needed an
earlier arcane sanctum so he could get magic sentry so that invasions no longer
Shadowmal no longer works in zone base, earlier Zeppelins.
At the end of the day, I'm making this list of things that should become better.
It is a combination of 5 to 10 optimizations. There's no one simple answer.
And at the end of the day, we're playing imperfectly.
And you know, everyone's making mistakes. He made too many, Pox made too few.
Yeah. Yeah, especially when we have so little time to play.
And here he is, going to the expansion, gorgon.
Oh yeah, this camp is easy.
More than level 1.8, he's making a second incident of war on the orange camp that normally gives level 2.2,
that's going to be a big force multiplier on his creeping.
He's actually playing completely passively, not liking to do level 1 harassment on early expo attempts.
Choosing instead to invest in his own warden levels. If he can get level 3 undisturbed, he's happy even if an enemy has an expansion.
Yamato Kannon is 4xp away from level, he's gonna try to get the level from the Murlocs, and his peasants are going to be making an expansion.
Minute 3, Death Note said. Not 305, not 303, not 3 minute 30, but minute 3 is when you should make it.
This was 307, that makes it horrible, 2 out of 10, but still with the unacceptable parameters by my reckoning.
Oh, they're such harsh words.
Yeah, Death Note is turning his fist right now.
A very good attempt here from Yamato.
In all seriousness, though, Yamato can his macro looks clean.
When I first laid my hands on him and I started molding the clay of the pots that he is now,
he wasn't making peasants and footmen in the meantime while he was expanding.
And look at this, his lumber income is going to be in a much better spot while he's expanding, he learned much in a brief time.
You laid your hands on?
You don't call me a perv on my own stream? Sing Sing only?
Oh no, you're definitely a perv, I just don't want to point that out so, go directly.
It's okay man.
He just hands upon that man.
More than level 2 point.
And here comes Yamato.
2.9 Yamato with the interrupt. No dust of appearance or nothing needs to die.
The Ancient of War shouldn't be threatened either if he pulls some Wisps.
It looks like Pox is just gonna force the issues, gonna drop the Flesh Eater low and then Fan for the level 3.
Ooh! Oh and down goes an archer, unfortunate.
We'll be fine.
Fan him down.
The amount of cannon is doing a good job trying to slow down Pox, but Pox already got enough out of this.
Is Yamato attacking in the meantime? Yes, okay, so this is not bad. Now he should be getting his own footman.
And he's not!
Thanks.
Wow, almost 3.5 off of that encounter. I would say for Pox.
Look at this item. It's disgusting. It's the optimal item you can get. Very happy to get it.
It's so much fun in Warcraft 3 when RNG favors you, is he going to drop the pendant to maximum
heal from the moonwell?
In his practice he didn't.
He's better than his practice!
Let's go boys!
That's a lot of knife juice right there.
We are going to be seeing some peasant blood being splattered on the floor.
There's an arcane tower here, good positioning on the blacksmith.
Blacksmith and the tunnel together are full block.
Warden doesn't obey the rules of normal mortals though.
can just blink over he's gonna get a sell on his claws get boots and stuff of
tally you know what on second reckoning let's sell the town portal as well
just run by the archmage that's fine doesn't care look this is something he
does because he knows he always wants like items later oh no the main is
exposed the arcade in the main is too late yeah oh god that one here oh god oh
My goodness
What if he times it into the gold mine?
It's a musical chair game of death and there's a grizzly bear waiting outside the tent only one can go inside at the same time
Yeah, that was not a good fan because it gets absorbed absorbed by adjacent units, so it went to the fitment elemental
Wow
No dust no dust
That was not a great fan again, but still he's getting his pound of flesh more than his level 3.99 and he staphs out
Oh, that's that is that
Unfortunate see who didn't drop the pendant wow that's crazy how different that is that cost him a hundred mana not dropping it
Damn, but let's not forget that was still great
for Pox. Now the Zeppelin, that is the lifeline for Yamato Kannon, becomes
available at 7.22 game time, that's in 20 real-time seconds from now. Yamato Kannon
reaches tier 2, his lumber income got decimated by the losses of those peasants,
very easily fixed if you just get a shredder. But Yamato Kannon has been
cowed into submission, stun-locked in his own base as he's organizing the funeral
of the many good men that have left us. What he needs is to get Zeppelin a
shredder but what he's doing is the loser camp trying to straggle his way
across the finish line to get level three on this AM meanwhile Pox is doing
the very same thing double instant of war creeping getting a shredder to make
sure that he'll never run out of lumber again
it's a oh my god what what is this it's pretty good item nice all day that's
Oh, no, oh, no
Another one
No, it's a like two three minutes cooldowns. It's it's not there. It's one. Oh, it's two minutes and 23 seconds away
He's fine. He's taking a lumber. He's chilling. Okay, that's true.
He's chilling on lumber, it's alright.
If you're chilling on a lumber there, I would call it. It's all cocky.
Nah, he's chilling here.
He's filling so much gold on Yamato.
Oh my goodness, Yamato Kanan is not going for steam tanks this time. He's doing his
own pivots. I don't know if this is prepared or adaptation.
Wait, did he steal that troll? I'm not sure.
Not sure.
Toby mask is the optimal item you can find by the way, it's really sick.
There's no healing yet.
He's not training from the sanctum.
Warden jumps in again.
That's a blink into an arcane tower though.
Uh oh, you might get the warden here.
If he's not careful, you can tell for us now.
He's dead.
Rifle!
Oh my god.
There's no juice.
Yeah, no juice. Are we buying a health potion? We're getting some druids perhaps?
It's all thanks to that Ring of Superiority. If that was a cloak, he would be dead now.
The undead odds have spoken.
He's just guzzling heal bots even though Rajuph is right there.
This is his macro by the way while pulling stunts like this.
This poor bear is in production.
So Yamato Kanon lives on.
He doesn't notice right now.
He only has three in gold.
He's making sorceresses and priests and rifles.
But with Yamato Kanon second, no alchemist, how does he out sustain the attrition of a
repeated fan of knife abuse?
Yamato Kanon has enough lumber.
economy is good but he doesn't have the over farms, getting stuck in supply after you push
over 50 you really don't want to get stuck in supply. Also, will he notice that his rifles
don't have range upgrades yet? Imato's flustered. Oh he's noticing it. Okay there it is. Long
rifle upgrade. But one farm is not enough. You need to be making five farms at the same
time. There we go. Okay so now he needs double heel scroll from the middle. He needs Mountain
King double three and then he has a rat's chance of winning a battle five ward and
that is going to hurt big knives coming out really need weak ores for this game
like something that like flashes the screen for you when you only have like
three in the gold mine or something that become a nice well maybe that's how to
make RTS popular again among a large audience simply need all the aura is
coming out warn them when they have a involved on their hero or something you
know it'd be cool the AMS on the warden that that army is looking juicy and ready
to receive some knife attacks maybe the boss mode to like a storm ball that's
flying to your face press AMS now it's a dodge it all the cool down timers you
know exactly when the stuff's off cooldown it'll be insane. Oh my god he's going in.
That's not the best fan of Nige, he's not stealing anything he's actually helping someone farm
it. He's gonna get the item he gets it. What's it got? Greater invulnerability potion. Oh
my goodness. Oh he's gonna be back. I still like Yamato Kanon's position. Same thing,
he has two heal scrolls. Yeah it's free right? Although I think he needs more spell breakers.
At some point he's going to stormbolt this bitch and then burn her mouth once and for all, yeah
That's a greater invulnerability potion. She's just got I think that's a very cavalier way of using it though
Just to flex and dodge a bolt. He did trade it for you
Did trade it for a heel scroll so that's not too bad
His army is just vibing at the top of the base doesn't want to get them involved in the fight at all
It's just a 1v10
still three out of five
Spellbreakers is a good choice though.
Montekang, missing level 3 is big, standing AFK here is not great either.
He's also very heavy on sorceresses without having invisibility, which would be very helpful.
And he's trying to get another heal scroll as Warden shows up.
Respects.
Oh, he respected Blizzard, okay.
Yeah.
They're trying to fight for the heal scroll, it's right here.
Either one could have bought it.
He Montekangang really needs to get that heal scroll.
I hope he didn't forget about it because of all that.
he did he's applying by the way yeah yeah this army is insane but he needs
that hill scroll like you cannot play against warden 5 without two hill
scrolls he forgot it he forgot
and attack a 0-0 upgrade 0-0 everything rifles with one attack upgrades
or then this is tough hold for books to be honest all the war gets stolen
It's a good blizzard.
Oh, nice blizzard, yeah.
There goes down.
Bear number two, bear number three.
The fans, it's not going to be enough.
He's got a human score ready.
And now he needs another.
I think we all agree he needs another.
The next fan could be really risky.
But so far it looks real good for your motocon.
And he needs to use his time to take down the Tree of Life.
He just landed an armor upgrade on his breakers.
Oh, he's getting the two upgrades too. Priest upgrade, Sorcerer's upgrade,
Batfan of Knights, and Breakers that doesn't do anything.
This looks real good for Yamato Kannon actually. He may have been able to solve how to deal with Pox's style.
Damn.
Even with that very brutal early harass, Yamato looking in a commanding position, 79 versus 43 army, lost the expansion.
He's just taking it all in right now.
He never found out that his goldmine is still missing 2 peasants, no? Is it bugged?
He just went tier 3.
No, it's not missing.
No, no, it's definitely...
It's not bugged.
But look, this is like, what, 17 peasants? That's level 6.
Why is he attacking farm?
Mistake.
He can Shadowmelt.
There's no magic sentry. He could stay.
I think he could...
He should have stayed for one more fan.
That's a good blizzard. 3 Moonwells.
AP! Fat lot of good. That's gonna do.
Oh geez, he's just getting on down.
Ah, nice heel scroll.
Huge heel scroll.
And he has a TP if he gets really bad.
The next two fans drop everything low and then you just TP.
Very good attack here by Yamato Kanon.
There's another fan and it's going to kill one Sorceress, no Priest, and a Stormbolt
blocked by AMS, fancy footwork, by Pox Stale, but he doesn't have many units.
got 700 gold in the bank not producing it's gonna come back in to try and kill
more backlighters he gets a lot that's two to three units dying he's getting
his pound of flesh he's just it's one more kill for level six he's killing
breakers the AP the oh oh bash bash gets the win he kills the warden!
Yamato Kanan! Wow. It was actually so close but he got the bold bash killed the warden
and she was level 5.9.
Yamato Kanon did what he needed to do
and got the map back.
We got a series on her hands, ladies and gents.
You love to see it.
Game three, he just going with his tried and true.
I feel like the siege engine was like kind of something
he's recently implemented.
He's like, you know what?
I'll just go with the classic and it worked out.
The breeze, the spell breakers.
Oh my goodness.
What do you think, Rubby?
Yeah, it worked out really well.
I think he did that excellently.
Just a really good adaptation.
Like you said, simply a little bit too uncomfortable
with the tank play for now.
And he went back to more familiar territory.
And that's often where people escape to, by the way,
when they're against the ropes.
It's also a way of anticipating what someone is gonna do.
If you know someone well enough,
when they fall behind, they will go to their comfort.
A guy known for his rifle caster is gonna go there.
I'm not saying that I knew that about Yamato,
that box knew that. But this is how competitors often react when they feel threatened.
Yeah, I've got to wonder if there's any, any more strats here that that felt like a very,
very commanding win for Yamato. If you're pox right now, I mean, what are you thinking? Does he
have a trick up his sleeve? Is he going to try to play cleaner? Not really sure.
He goes warden for sure. There was no panda. I don't know what happened there. I don't know
I guess Panda was the the tank thing. Yeah, yeah
And Panda was the response to the tank for sure. He also gets a second just doesn't get it. Go ahead. Sorry good. I
Was just gonna ask
So Warden typically just is a one hero build
Like they just don't get a second hero unless tanks I guess
Yeah, they're like in units because of the bonus XP you get when you're a tier two without a second hero
15% bonus XP
Now Warden is able to get power levels from that. At tier 3 without a second hero you get 30% bonus XP for a singular hero.
So it just makes you be able to get level 6 really fast and level 6 is very powerful to get for anyone.
And Warden in particular has her own red carpet to level 6. The moment she gets level 5, one auto attack,
fan of knives, peasants die and that's how she farms from 5 to 6.
There's no other hero in the game that has a five to six strategy that works self sufficiently.
So that's why this Warden style came to be.
Oh, so the tech improves your XP rates?
Yes, you didn't know that.
And no, I just learned that today.
I learned, but you have to be so hero.
If you made a second hero and it died, it's gone.
If you started the second hero, but it's not out yet, it's gone.
And if you own a second hero, it's gone.
You need to be tier two or three, you get 15 and 30% extra on single hero.
Ah, okay.
I see.
So, you just have to know these things.
They don't tell you anywhere, Rick.
Yeah, it makes learning working through very dense, very complex in ways that are
not just strictly speaking good.
I mean, of course, there's going to be a lot of gatekeepers that like to know
these obscure facts.
It used to be in the manual, you know, Warcraft 3 is from a generation, I'm not ashamed to say,
it's from a generation where you used to buy games in a box, in a physical store, it came with a manual.
There was a website that highlighted such information.
You used to trade these facts on replay websites where you had forums where people told that were not like Reddit.
There was just people talking about games, man. Good times.
But you know what? Prison time is good times too.
I do miss the physical copies that that was kind of cool the boxes and everything the box art
World of Warcraft box art opening that shit up. Oh my god
That's all online convenient it's very
the headliner. It's so perfect that it goes to game free. Yeah. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's
what you would hope for, right? The number one and number three MMR, these guys, you
know, much of your matters in my mark comes from, uh, from winning against Orc. So don't
think that he's underperforming by any stretch of the imagination. This is him playing at
his best possible level and he showed that in that second game, bringing out the rifle
cast to play, going heavily into spellbreakers, you know, as you guys will be finding out
from watching this, the human playbook against Warden is to make things that are magic immune
against Fan of Knives.
Thanks being one of them and spellbreakers being the other.
The third one is flying machines.
Those three units are what you want, together with knights which are more resilient, not
immune but more resilient to this kind of splice damage that's why he's going for
those the rifle sword priests they're vulnerable but somehow the model was able
to keep them alive with his heel scroll usage
I'm missing a few fans of knives on nothing like one or two units yeah yeah
he was just kind of blinking in and just pressing it every you wasn't even
looking at what was there it was definitely sloppier in the second game
by some stretch of the imagination because one of his fans when his expansion was being
attacked he did a fan on Archimage, one other unit and four breakers but you know that doesn't
do anything. This is a tough camp.
Yeah, we'll grab a key, screen chair.
Yes, sorry, please.
Yeah, this is the second toughest camp in the game in my opinion for Ancient of War Creeping.
The way it is done is you have to take out your archer, attack the camp, walk around the
trees like so and then come back here and that way you get most of the creeps
including the level 5 range creep adjacent to your ancient of war and then
if you want to do things really well you're gonna repair your ancient of war
with a wisp pull up your archer alongside it lightning shield AI triggers
when there's two enemy units two player-controlled units next to each other
by a third that triggers the lightning shield but it only triggers if there's
not also a creep adjacent to the archer so it's it's a lot of deep AI exploit
tech let's see if pox mastered it what if we just run in like this no it's just
gonna run in look he's doing it I told you and the footman got
wait he's doing it quite well actually look double repair now he just needs to
pull the archer next to the wisps.
Oh no, the archer's getting bashed, this is bad.
She's dying to normal damage.
Triple bash of a row!
Oh no!
That hurts bad.
You're gonna deny Icon? That's nice.
Showing that the creeps killed it.
Footman is also a harassing wisp.
That's a fan of knives that feels funny.
Wait, wait, wait! The footman, the footman!
Oh, close!
That was just a low.
Uhhh...
Make a mode while we're doing this.
Oh, he denied a creep because of the pressure by the footman.
This is Yamato Cannon's credit.
Detonate, out of panic as well.
Meanwhile, Yamato Cannon is ready to expand.
308, 309, you're missing your window, Yamato Cannon.
312, okay, not too bad.
One out of ten.
We'll take it.
Should suffice here?
It's a troll.
Emotionary troll.
Yeah, troll priests giving 70 to 24 piercing damage costs 195 gold and can heal as well.
Also abolish on water elementals.
The amount of cannons expansion has started.
This is a powerful way to start the game with an expansion, especially against people that
have their own idea about what their early game looks like.
This kind of thing just tends to, I feel like really shrink your possible options in the
early game when you're not a human player, same thing.
Don't you always do the same thing anyway if you play Archmage?
No, but I'm just saying, if human fast expands, isn't it kind of like you don't really have
a way to play tier 3 builds anymore?
You have to kill some peasants if you want to win as a non-human.
I guess, yeah.
Pox seems unperturbed, he's just going to keep creeping, trying to get his level 3.
And then play off of boots and stuff of teleportation tech later.
I like how Yamato-kanon is going around the side, straight to Wisp potentially.
No, no, you have to get the Wisp, Yamato!
Oh, but there's no one home.
Yeah, he's glazing his cleverness.
Oh, another level 3 creep denied by Pox.
But man, it gets a netted though, yummy, level 3 just in time for the fight.
And another denigration of war.
This is perfect, box.
Perfect, he just lost 3 creeps to enter the war, no exp.
Oh that, no I was meaning how he just walks into him instead of fighting his own base.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I think the human should have been inside his base right now just killing wisps.
Yeah of course.
Instead of fighting his army and losing shit here.
don't have it's all perfectly lense though yep no 100% 100% he just it's like
he wants his footman to die he's just gonna find the warden wherever she is
and then let her fan now to be fair I did see death note teaching something
similar but I think it's not quite like this if you can attack with that's good
and then when she comes back to defend and she uses a fan you're happy like a
single fan use on footman that doesn't result in death is job done and then you
need to spread your footmen, heal them and do it again.
All right, but he's not quite getting it right still.
This isn't 2,500 Elo.
Let's be real, Yamato Kanan is doing a pretty good job.
His Arcane Tower is earlier than on Tidehunters.
He's got about eight peasants on lumber here
and about two here, maybe three.
But it's not enough, but he's making more.
Arcane Tower in both bays.
Not ready yet though, and Pox is coming in
with double claws of attack plus eight and five
with the staff of Telly.
He's gonna walk in, fan, and then he could just
Yeah, he gets another one there, it's easy.
And ArcMage is not level 3 yet, so not a lot of DPS here.
It's good still to stand here though.
Yamato Kanan is absorbing some of the fad of knives hits with his Ferti's and Water Elemental.
It's very smart actually by him to stand here.
Look, he's doing it on purpose.
And he's got a full surround!
Wait, it's limited damage?
I didn't even know that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it only hits six targets and they go to the most adjacent targets first
Wow got him pressed down there
Pause every second he stands here is just good for Yamato
What's gonna happen? He's got a fan and then he's gonna staff out when he has cool down
He wants to do one fan then stuff and he will drop to 150 life and then go home
It's one peasant 198 still on the life
Gotta give props to box for his his ancient of war
knowledge is even blowing me away there's that that first camp he did was
crazy he'll be the second one here making full use of the ancient war you
love to see it oh my god it happened again oh my god it no no I don't think
it did I don't think it he denied unless I'm wrong but I don't think it
happened he just salt double claws of attack and he bought dependent of energy
I think those claws were okay they didn't need selling per se but it's true that
claws are lower priority items. She's mostly a spellcaster. Could have kept one
until he actually needs to replace the slot though. Yamato Canon, he's going the
same build as last game. Mantaking, double arcane sanctum, some rifles. Shouldn't go
over 50 pop quite this soon though. You want to at least wait until sanctums are
co-producing. Straight 53 pop is a little bit wasteful. He's also a little bit
low on lumber so without making enough farms he's not even going to be able to
blaze lightning all the way from 53 you know to to more to 70 to 80 pop no but
footmen right what's that you collect with men here but he's not like yes he's
gonna do it now he can't even he could maybe he should but he's not
he isn't okay it's gonna at least one of them no never mind he pulled him out
Does he go back for seconds?
Yes, he does.
How many did he get?
Okay.
One, two, three, four, five.
Four.
Ooh.
The Pentagon.
This should be solo mountain creeping because AM already has level three.
It's also better not to kill your own units with lightning shield.
That's a bolt.
Oh, he's got a mana steal and then he's going to fuck.
Oh, two rifles.
Wow. Pretty nice from Pox. It was kind of looking grim there for a second, but these are some
pretty big gains with the fan. Sucks a little bit more. We're going to see another one.
The stun. Tried to blink out. He's got scroll. Doesn't even need to use it.
Blink in FAMTP, or just go home. Probably better to go home.
Oh, I just bit my tongue. Probably better to go home. By the way, no Goblin Shredder on this map.
Pox has 28 lumber and cannot make any bears. This is the warden macro that
Xingxing warned us about. It's a classic. Knight of Clers can play macro. Not you.
And yeah, I mean, it's just the way she goes, man. We respect the trees too much
to be sucking all that lumber. We don't need that much.
Well, seven peasants on gold only.
That means, okay, there, he fixed it, all right.
Because for a moment, Yamato Kanna's income was no more than what Pax had.
Pox is getting his level five.
Next he would normally like AMS, but then he has to backtrack.
He is going to backtrack, because you could do it with invulpotion, which costs more and
lasts less long.
But it's going to be with the AMS.
The redjuve, OrpheVenom is gonna sell Mantoo I think, and then buy AMS.
He sells TP, AMS Monopult, okay.
He's ready, he's ready to dance.
And the Mountain King just gets level 2.
Also, Pendant of Energy.
Seems to know he's here, or maybe he's going to the shop for something himself.
Either way, this is some juice.
The whole lot of units ready to get fanned.
What?
Double heal scroll.
Anything use the potion?
Uh, he is...
Okay.
There was a manapult used by Pox. He should have been AMS. He gets one sorceress.
Really not that good. Nice AMS, stabs with the bolt.
Uh-huh. Goes back in. Another fan.
I'm not gonna focus this blink.
Gets a priest. Well, because he's still on their AMS, right? He feels safe.
Yeah, I guess so. Do the spell breaker still absorb one of the hits of the Fan of Knives,
despite being magical? I don't think so.
That'll be crazy.
Wait, Chats says yes? Yes, they do?
Oh, it kinda looked like it did, cause I only saw like two units get hit, but I wasn't sure, or by so long.
Huh.
Yeah, interesting mechanic, if it is.
I don't know.
I don't have magic commune.
Oh, you have a nose.
I play Orc, we have no magic commune. See, only Racer doesn't by the way, so...
I'm just saying, maybe we should have one. Fix it, man. Fix it, Blizzard.
No.
You can circle it kinda nice.
Madoka kinda looks pretty good here. He's ramped up all the way to AT population.
He's making his spellbreakers. He's got his towers. Didn't overmake towers either. Just exactly what's needed.
Getting an armor upgrade for breakers. AT pop, double heal scroll and has TP crucially. Warden is only level 5.4.
I think you might okay and by the way boxes been on 51 population for a while. I
Think you matter cannon is the 90 to 10 upper dog as he advances into the night of base can pox hold
Sorry it's gonna be tough of asking yeah the bears have roar those spellbreakers are gonna eat that up
up. Okay, Archimage with a lot of position there. Oh, nice one. Nice fan, big blizzard
there. One bear goes down. Those bears are moving a lot, they're not auto attacking a
lot, not optimal movement. Oh my god, the Heal Scrolls. It's cooked, it's so cooked.
He has another Heal Scroll, it doesn't even matter if he gets a fan off, the bears are
doing nothing. A huge blizzards as well by Yamato Canon. Yamato Canon used both heel
scrolls already. He's got so many spell breakers left. Bears are the only thing that can even
have a hope of taking him down. Yamato Canon played too good in Game 2 and 3 and the shenanigans
Pox tried to get away with and did get away with in Game 1. Had no repeat. Great play
by Yamato Canon.
Ugh, GG, very nice.
Not quite yet, but I mean the writing is on the wall.
A couple of more cute moves by Pox, but even Avatar Vengeance most likely would not be a rescue in this situation.
A bear though.
One single bear.
It's not a bear yet though.
It had one bear, did more than the other six.
Another bear.
Hold on.
oh much huge blink touch and drink the juice drink it before it's gone it's gone wait
level six okay buys himself some time it's great quite over but that's that's
pretty rough that's a great TP by your mother canon even though he has no units left box
a mother canon has always units he didn't want to blunder his art major
Monty King away. He just killed three Moon Wells. That means that for the next
two minutes or three minutes, Pook's army is not going to be growing, whereas
the Monty Cannon's army can still grow. He's doing exactly that. Double spell
breaker. He just needs to go to a shop, get regen scroll, go to this shop, get the
double heal scroll, and this one has priority. If he gets the double heal
scroll here, I feel like that's a nail in the coffin.
Here he's taking his nice stroll up to the shop having a little party around it
200 a p.m. For one unit
Are you sure this is not your observing a p.m. No, probably not your hands in the air. No, no, no
I'll play thank you. Oh, I don't see it. You don't see it. I have an overlay
I don't know.
I see Yamato 140 and Pox has 200.
I'm surprised you can see it.
Oh, I guess it's all you're using the advanced observer overlay.
Yeah, I don't like that one.
I don't like the colors on experience in the bottom right.
Oh, I don't know.
It's the fault one of it.
I didn't change it to me.
Oh man.
He blundered his blink.
He's going to staff home as there's an attack.
Pox does have an expansion.
He's just starting to use it.
Note that there were no new units since Yamato got on left.
two hill scrolls again no downport of the two hill scrolls ultimate nice the
ultimate save this oh god the knight is here
look at the unit is so cool yeah it's so cool that he keeps his rifle
priest in the back trying to dodge oh nice hill scroll you want to kind of
explain so well very deserving yeah so clean the stun no more fans from you
for now we get a bear deny it could be big the shop doing work to these
spellbreakers yeah hold that bitch that was a monobird I don't think spellbreak
is absorbed any damage there I saw five units in the back getting her it's even
the breakers were adjacent.
Justine.
Huge AMS.
Huge-
Oh, the healer scroll!
And the scroll.
Gorgeous! Gorgeous play by Yamato. Very precise.
And he kills the avatar. That's a little before. Bash level 2. It's only Warden.
And that's it. Warden against the whole army.
Can't be done.
What's the play here?
Die. Die and leave.
DT!
Well played.
Very well deserved for Yamato-Kannon to get the 2-1 victory here in the upper bracket.
Round 1.
That's good stuff.
He managed to do it in this moment against Pox Yamato-Kannon.
2-1 advances to the second round against the winner of Dante's versus Mary Mady.
Oh man.
they are in for that. That will be a great match. Whoever ends up advancing there is
that that's the next match right Dante's versus Mary. Yes, yes it is. Oh, that's gonna be coming
up next. I saw Mary will win if she just forgets about this upkeep mechanic. Just make units.
Don't don't give a fuck. Just go 100 upkeep 100 hundreds. She will win just berserkers
and nothing else. A move the ground victory. Yeah, don't try to 50 pop just hold the button
and make units. Yeah. And she fucking got that. I'm pretty
sure of it.
Alright, well, that was that was pretty incredible. Simply and
sing sing. Thank you so much for joining. I'm gonna be finding
my new co caster for Dante's and Mary maybe and we need a
specialist of this elo bracket. And we managed to find them
they're rare. But it's gonna be sunglitter sunglitter will
bring her special expertise of what it's like in the four to
500 kilo bracket in Dante's against Mary maybe. Is that fucked up?
That's going to be so good. No, no, it's perfect. Thank you so much.
You should get higher memoir. True, true. Just get higher memoir and then it then
it'll be okay. Hey, thank you so much for joining. Simply, we'll be seeing more of
each other and sing sing hopefully as well. GG's. Good luck in both of you.
GG's. I'm going to play yesterday's video because it is the longest one we
have. Even though the clan war happened yesterday, it's a 5 minute video and that will allow me to
put a few calories into my belly. We'll be right back with Dante's vs. Mary Maby,
co-casted by Sungletters. Welcome to the Alter of Champions, an 8 player Warcraft 3
Invitational tournament. Today on the 15th May 2026 there is the Clan War. We have 8 streamers that
are divided into two teams of 4 players each. They will work together to win as a team today.
They'll play up to five matches that are all best of three.
To win, a team must score three victories.
On the left-hand side, we have Team Alpha, captain by Tyler1.
He will be joined by Yamato Kanon, Simply and Mary Maybe.
On the right-hand side, there is Team Omega, captain by Hera.
He joins forces with Pox, Maxime and Dante's.
The opening match is called The Headliner.
It is a one-on-one match that begins on springtime.
Each team captain will choose one player to send in, blindly and unaware of the other team's choice.
Will the captain send themselves, send in their strongest, send a sacrifice,
or send a special matchup assassin to take out an expected opponent?
Next up, team coordination will be put to the test.
The co-op battle is a 2 vs 2 match that begins on the map Synergy.
A team's two players spawn very closely together on this one.
The captain may not reuse their headliner player for the 2 vs 2.
Thirdly, we will have the ultimate test of team spirit and the management of order through chaos.
In the 4 on 4 everyone plays. It's a full-on brawl of team vs team to score another point for a team.
All 4 on 4 maps will be played on Arathor.
The fourth match is called the redemption match. If the clan war isn't over with a 3-0 score already,
there's going to be a redemption match. The player that hasn't featured yet in the headliner
or co-op battle must be sent in for a fourth point in this Clan War. This match will take place on
Tidehunters. In the exciting event of a 2-2 score, the ace match will decide it all. The
captains will likely send their best to decide it all in a final best of three, which begins
on the autumn leaves. Each winning player of a team that won the Clan War will win $500 for
themselves and the winning captain gets to pick their first one-on-one tournament bracket opponent
from the other team. The captain will then delegate second and third choice to whomever
he deems the most deserving player based on their clan war performance.
you
Welcome to the Altar of Champions, an 8 player Warcraft 3 Invitational Tournament.
Today on the 15th May 2026 there is the Headliner.
The first match of the Clan War is a 1-on-1 that begins on springtime and is the best of
three.
Each team captain will send their representative blindly.
Who will they send first?
Let's find out!
On Saturday the 16th and Sunday the 17th of May in 2026, the alter of champions 1-on-1
and main tournament will be played out.
Our eight contestants are ready to go at it in 1-on-1.
The winning team from Friday's Clan War has their picks of who they want to face in the
with the winning captain having first pick and then they delegate the second and third pick to the most deserving players of their team.
That happened yesterday and soon I'll show you today's brackets.
Most matches are best of three with the upper bracket finals, the lower bracket finals and the grand finals being the best of five.
The grand finalist that comes from the upper bracket finals will have an advantageous map selection system.
$8,000 is up for grabs in this Alter of Champions 1-on-1 tournament with the champion taking $3,500.
The prize pool was sponsored by Blizzard, and this event was made possible by all of you guys,
the 8 participating streamers, and all the co-casters, moderators, and everybody that helped.
I'm Grubby, and this is the Alter of Champions, the 1-on-1 tournament. Let's play!
On Saturday the 16th and Sunday the 17th of May in 2026, the Alter of Champions 1-on-1 main tournament will be played out.
out. Our eight contestants are ready to go at it in one-on-one. The winning team from Friday's
Clan War has their picks of who they want to face in the brackets, with the winning captain
having first pick and then they delegate the second and third pick to the most deserving players
of their team. That happened yesterday and soon I'll show you today's brackets. Most matches are
best of three with the upper bracket finals, the lower bracket finals and the grand finals being
the best of five. The grand finalist that comes from the upper bracket finals will have an advantageous
map selection system. $8,000 is up for grabs in this Altar of Champions 1-on-1 tournament,
with the champion taking $3,500. The prize pool was sponsored by Blizzard and this event was
made possible by all of you guys, the eight participating streamers and all the co-casters,
moderators and everybody that helped. I'm Grubby and this is the Altar of Champions
the 1-on-1 tournament. Let's play! Let's play! Hello and welcome back everybody to the show!
Thank you for your patience. I know you guys prefer those videos to the actual show from what I can tell the chat
You're the most excited. I bring on a special guest a participant of the Onlyfangs
Warcraft 3 invitation all for March last year. I
Dragged her kicking and screaming into Warcraft 3
You know what I said to my stream earlier it's been a year
You know, I've I've seen the history and I saw I played against Tyler against goosal against all of them
It's been exactly a year today, and I just stopped having nightmares, but I'm ready to come back
I'm so excited for this match especially because I I did watch Mary
I did watch Dante's and I think it is perfect. I'm very glad you invited me for this match specifically
Yeah, I needed your expertise specifically because it's very daunting and difficult to begin on an RTS for the first time, Sunglitters.
Mary maybe also has never played an RTS before, what was that like for you?
Yeah, it's very overwhelming and I did watch the match from yesterday.
You guys said oh, she bit like a goblin laboratory
It's a good mind and I get it like you just so focused on one thing that you
Totally forget what's happening on the other side of the map. So I I could I could see myself
Definitely in her and I saw Dante's he always builds these huge dragons, right? Yeah. Yeah, the frosts were
And then it just comes and wipes over so I was asking my chat
or who do you think wins? Mary or Dante's? Right? I think it will just come down. It
will just come down to the nerves. I think people say that Mary's better like game wise,
like with her knowledge and also mechanics. But if she forgets to be the good mind or
something, it could go either way.
Yeah, or God forbid if she builds it in the wrong place again, by the way, some glitters,
map was the scene of the crime. It's already spawning memes in the Warcraft 3 scene. People
are posting links. There's a meme where one asks, what's your MMR in Warcraft 3? And
the answer is Mary Maybe's screenshot where her great hole is next to the Goblin Laboratory
as an answer.
No! No!
What's happening to SpongeBob over there? What is Dante's doing, man? That is not okay.
So unhandshit.
Do I just start? What do you think? Should I just start or accept his stalling?
Yeah, are you gonna like share the game to me or should I watch with you?
Yeah, for sure.
I'll share it. I'll share it for sure.
I just do both. I can watch my POV and yours.
Sounds good, let's do it. Map intro will be back in 10.
Looks like we have the most toxic in-game colors because I forgot to change them.
them. My mother tried to help me to discover it in time. Luckily, the game crashed. Is
that what happened? Yeah, it said like timed out or something.
Okay, we don't know why it could be at least we get to fix the map. So that's kind of nice. We
don't know exactly why we can always try again. And if that doesn't work, the most likely
suspect and this has nothing to do with you is you.
Oh, it's me. Okay, then I will just quit and watch through you.
Not definitively. It's just because you're a veteran player.
If we can call you that, there's more likely a chance that one of your maps is corrupted
or like a different version or something, but it has the same name.
Oh, okay.
But it may have nothing to do with you, by the way.
And it's definitely not your fault in any event.
But if you're going to watch with my perspective anyway, we might as well just try that.
Yeah. So should I quit?
quit? Yeah, you can quit. I'm just gonna broadcast the game name
again to everyone.
Alright, here in chat, Death Note has just divorced with
your motto.
Is it because you motto cannon can now be happy forever
together by himself? Or have they had a disagreement? He's
like, you already I'm proud of you, my son.
You know, Grubby, what you said earlier, or in the match against Mary, maybe in Dante's was very fucked up.
You remember what you said? Wait, wait, wait. You said something about Mary
for getting all her fundamentals. Yeah. And then you said
but she forgot them even though she had barely any. That was fucked up. I agree. You roasted the
shit out of her!
Oh my god!
It's not okay, right?
Why do I think I can get away with that kind of stuff?
I invite people, they accept the invite
and I say stuff like that.
Thanks for calling it out.
I'll never say stuff like that again.
And I've also watched your
YouTube videos, Gaby.
I've heard what you said about me too.
Wait, hold on.
What do you think you heard,
You hurt, Sungletoos.
What do you said, man?
I was watching two of his videos at the beginning, you know, when the players were training,
and he said, yo, don't worry, Mary, maybe I coached Sungletoos.
It can't be that bad.
But the way that I meant that is, no, no, I can't think of an excuse fast enough.
Can you start the game? I don't have it yet.
Yeah, I'll share it so I can do this.
I'll do anything.
If you can stop this line of questioning.
You know,
Alter of Champions is the final upper bracket round one
between the players.
Dante's and Mary, maybe are playing against each other in a best of three.
A winner takes $500, a loser goes to the lower bracket.
Let's do this.
OK, OK.
Okay, I remember, yeah, she is farming some gold with warks.
Dante is probably on the undeads again, right?
Yep.
You know, a very similar thing happened as the invitation, you were a part of some glitters.
Mary maybe showed a straight up style where she often went to tier 3.
She got pretty decent at it.
night before the tournament yesterday, someone sent her a cheese and she used it.
So she did that. It's really good. She did a tower rush all in with the second rushing hero,
Blade Mastery into Fire Lord, built a bunch of towers in Dante's base,
and thought she won and dropped some trash talk, but she actually still let it slip away from her hands.
No, what's happened? Well, why did she fuck up?
She said SMD, which I don't know what that abbreviation means.
Maybe you can help with that.
But she built the towers a little bit too far away.
Uh, and then she, uh, didn't finish it off.
She didn't finish the base off.
Dante's got to his transforms and, uh, she didn't make it off unit.
She had like a really large econ at home that she wasn't using.
So yeah, it wasn't quite there.
Hopefully in the, over the course of the night, she made this
built a little bit better.
Dude, I believe in Mary, like she is definitely a grinder.
And when she makes those mistakes, maybe she doesn't make them again.
And it's smart to get another strategy.
It's just surprise them.
Oh, that is coming with this.
What is that?
It's a neutral hero.
Dark ranger.
Dark ranger first.
He saw her standing there and decided to just go off by himself and creep.
And Mary maybe is looking for a camp to creep.
I think she had vision of Dante's the Stark Ranger, but decided not to do anything.
Now this is pretty funny.
This is like a priest battling a priest in World of Warcraft.
Both of them are heaters, and I don't think Dante has enough DPS to out-damage the rejuvenation.
So he's gonna be here sucking himself off in a corner for quite some time to come.
Oh!
He's what?
He's sucking himself!
Okay, yeah, this champion looks a little bit like Finnestix.
Oh, he's running away too!
He failed!
He gave up on the...
He failed!
Yeah, that's true. It's better to let go, but it's even better to be prepared.
Yeah, true. He looks like he's a little bit in a shock state.
We didn't get it. I think Mary maybe is looking good. She's already at her second camp, right?
Yeah, that's good one. It's not truly stuck. It is hemmed in by the peon that's mining lumber peons that are mining lumber have collision
So you would need to clear it out. Otherwise the head on to will free itself probably somewhere in the next few minutes
No problem. It's all
Dante's is making loads of tires at home Dante's is also making a crit fiend. Holy crap. I didn't think it makes any
Well, it's like the equivalent of a rifleman. Let's say it's just a range
The thing is that what we know about Dante so far is that he doesn't make any units until the 9-minute mark
So he's evolving which is kind of scary. Not any units!
So is Dante the worst player you ever had in a tournament?
He's close, he's top 3, bottom 3.
Who is the worst?
If I speak I'm in trouble.
Me?
Oh my god!
But, however sangly it is, even though you qualified as that initially, you outperformed expectations so much and you made me truly proud, because you nearly 2-1 someone that was more than 3 times your MMR.
I have never seen a bigger upset than your nearly 2-1 victories against Geronimo and you also would have had Guzulu if he hadn't pulled the cable.
If he didn't cheat, yeah.
Yeah, holy shit. I still remember to this day. I see if he betrayed company. He's done that.
Yeah, I had a plug pull against me in 2006. You think the pain ever lessened some glitters? Hell no.
Yeah, I get it. I get it.
Maybe he's doing a good job of farming up her blade master. She's all already going to be having level three.
She is focusing the tank over the support, which is kind of like taking General Dracasath in LBRS instead of taking out his adds first, not great.
But eventually she came through it, got a Ring of Protection plus 5, and is that gonna be double beast theory?
Wait, hold on. One beast theory. This is again different build. She managed to change many things.
What, is that a new strat?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Shadow Second beast theory. I wonder if it was gonna be two beast theory or not.
Is this just gonna be Kodos? Is this the variant of build that she practiced?
Dante is also scraping more than before. They are both prepared for this match.
Yes! Double B-Steri!
Nice.
Okay, I think I know what this is.
Double B-Steri.
Okay, and what does that mean?
She's getting double the units.
She's like double barracks or what?
Yeah, yeah. Basically, this is not much different from the build I initially
taught you, Sanklilis. I'll let you explain it.
The Gryphon build?
Yeah.
God I remember exactly how to do it first. I will make it champion
And then
I've been dumb and barracks
No, no, no, no, that's your second build your first build is tier tech to tier three and get griffons from two aviaries
Sorry, I got confused.
it and it's gonna go in reverence so she's playing mass with yes she put her
peons off there's no peon on it well no it's it's different the orc peon
actually goes inside but she literally just get cancel on it I think by accident
that's funny yeah I was watching I was watching the cast earlier and I was like
I have so many questions I'm dead I can't ask you now know what's going on
Maybe it's moving around with the auto attack move that means that the windrider reveals
itself, engages the camp and is now dying to a troll.
Keep in mind that she has not practiced with windriders whatsoever, they're a gloss cannon
unit that easily gets taken out by a variety of different things.
The idea here is that Mary maybe because of her poor econ spent in some of her earlier
games could amass a large force of windriders and I'm guessing that's what...
expensive right? Yeah they're very expensive but because she often forgets to spend her money
that's like a good thing to spend on but she didn't use the first one that well.
Look at this, sunglasses. What is he doing? He's making an expansion, he's gonna be mining for a
second location meanwhile preparing boneyard with frost worms, abominations are coming out too so
So we're gonna get the fat tanks and the a bombs remember remember these are in
Stratholm undead remember the 10. Yeah the abominations
Lot of people died there a lot of good hardcore while players died there
That's gonna be his tank and he's gonna make frost worms the ice dragons from this building over here
Yeah with the flying units she can just fly around and kill the peons right in the his base for example
She could do that, but it requires a lot of precision for her sake
I hope she uses them in a more centralized way just keep them together with the army and have them be the gloss cannon DPS
That they are she's going to tier 3 which means that perhaps she's looking to get inventive spears on windriders
This adds a powerful poison attack passive to the windriders
That will basically increase their DPS by a lot and Dante's he's creeping way more than before before he would send his DR in
He's Dark Ranger. He would life-strain some peons and then Town Port O'Outs.
But now he just keeps getting experience points and items from creep camps.
And it looks a lot better than whatever he was doing before. They both evolved.
You know what I want to point out is, look, Dantus is at 50 out of 50.
Doesn't he have to build more houses for the units?
And he's got three coming in, which is actually perfect.
Okay, that's good.
Mining from two bases. He gets loads of gold 20 gold per second three cigarettes coming in and then if he makes a big push
You know what Dante's display looks scarily much like legitimate Warcraft 3 play
I was so ready to just see clownery and buffoonery from him once again
Yeah, oh my god, okay nice
So what would you say who's winning currently I think Dante's he's got a
2000 gold bank he went over 50 pop at the same time with frostworms and abombs
his gold mine is undiscovered by Mary maybe and Mary maybe still has that same
headhunter stock she's making windriders and didn't creep the orange camp she
was in front of no shadow level three yet
I feel like her stuff is like idling around, it's not like fighting or anything.
Yeah, correct. You learned the rule. Always be moving around, always creeping and so forth.
And she's not doing it.
Yeah. I get it though, because I remember when I started making the control units.
Like it's hard to even make them, stick them together and move everything around.
She's probably a little bit overwhelmed right now.
Her control grouping is okay, but her pace is more SimCity rather than Warcraft 3 at the moment.
She actually has really solid fundamentals, but really just lacks exposure and practice.
Uh oh, she was going to place Tiny Great Hall on the gold mine, but accidentally interrupted the command.
It's going to place it again. Please not this far away.
Okay, that's an expansion. Meanwhile, though, a fight breaks out and she's scarcely ready.
It's so hard for me to tell like the units right now. Okay, Mary is the blue
Oh my god, I'm gonna start playing walker of the game like I was watching
I'm better than these guys!
Like, what are they doing? They're taking so long!
But then when you play, you'll feel how rustily everything moves again,
if you don't have a good feeling for it, and maybe it'll be tough.
Oh my God, these items!
Dante has so many items on this pit, Lord!
He's so tanky, he's got so much more, he's got an expansion,
he's got 80 population army.
Dante is actually becoming a legitimate Warcraft 3 player.
This is so unexpected.
Like, the difference between yesterday and today,
I think he gained hundreds of points of MMR in how he's playing.
Hundreds of points? Oh my God.
Did he like play a lot? Like, he spammed? Did he get a new coach?
No, no, it's just he's playing above the level that we expected from his MMR.
And it's just, it's just really cool to see.
Didn't expect that based on yesterday's games.
I thought Mary maybe was going to take it today because she had more solid strategy build up.
But it just looks really, really good.
and Dante's is using his abilities, he's picking his skill points which he wasn't doing yesterday.
Mary maybe is, she does have the expansion but this time she forgot to mine from it.
Also her windriders do not have abandoned spears, I don't know if she knows about it.
She still has a lot of anti-air units and Dante's is running out and also the
blade master is attacking the Dark Ranger. Dark Ranger is really low but it's not enough
because she's life draining herself healing back up once again
oh damn also they have a pretty high gold difference now too
yeah yeah it's 1,300, 500 and she has double the units too
it's cooked what's she gonna do it's very likely cooked she needs uh she's getting
bloodlust looks like she's has more windriders she needs to start feeding
xp and hp to this stargrainjair frostworm comes in slows the windriders
Sunglasses, I think this is the beginning of the end for Merry Maybe.
Would you type GG and quit at this point, or would you turn it around?
I would write some less choice words, I think, when I'm
from Merry Maybe. The relationship that these two have is antagonistic at best,
and so I don't think it's going to be GG, but I think quit is a timely exit right now, yeah.
Could be something like SMD? Something like that, which I heard from
Jack is a solid micro Dante's.
OK.
Played Master goes down, Mary, maybe is being chased into a corner.
She's got one unit left.
Oh, my God, no.
Yeah, those those dragons that Dante said
so has this in really OP.
No, really, you're better than the griffins to find chickens that I told you.
Shadow, one more heal on himself, but he's getting life.
Three invited Dark Ranger surrounded by abominations and strata home.
Shadow goes down and that's gotta be it. No, she's dead!
Can we see it when they type in the chat from your POV? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I am expecting, yeah, there we go. GG. GG. Damn. Wait, would it be crazy if not only did Dante's win
this battle, but he also ended up winning against Yamato Kanan in the semis?
that being saying I wanted to be really crazy. Are they like very how from one to ten how
good is Yamato? He's the number one MMR of the tournament. Let's see. If you remember,
I don't know if you remember watching Dendi and Ampi, but I'd say Yamato is very close
to Dendy's level in the first tournament. Okay, Dendy was insane. It's gonna be a little bit difficult.
A little bit difficult. Damn. Grubby, I was thinking that you, if you do another tournament,
one of these months, you invite the worst players only. Only the worst players. What about that?
Like, can you, uh, can you think of a list?
Mary, Dante's, me.
So you admit it?
Yeah, of course.
Of course, I'm in the bottom.
So, uh, okay.
And who else?
Maybe Annie, Mary, Dante's, you and then for.
And some other people that have never played before.
would you still be stressed if you played with such a cast or you'll be able to enjoy it more?
I think I would still be stressed because if I go at the bottom again it's even worse
like imagine you lose the tournament of the worst players ever
there's no shame losing to like a dota 2 pro or something but like well we found the opposite
of the A team. We found the opposite of the Power Rangers. The opposite of whatever. The
Powerpuff Girls. And you still lost.
Yeah.
Let's see what the second map is going to be. Mary maybe gets to pick. She picked Hammerfall.
I think he was so good. I was watching the matches earlier. Did Simply play before?
No.
Walker 3?
Nope.
That's crazy. How is he so good?
I was impressed too. You know him from World of Warcraft, of course.
He was pretty good there, too, no?
Yeah. Yeah.
It's just a gamer.
Just a gamer.
I mean, I think you don't become like a speed runner
if you're afraid of iterating on your mistakes.
That's something that's true.
Oh, we're going into the next game.
To the next game.
Dante's looking like he's holding a speech.
Mary looks depressed.
She actually knows how to press.
He's not moving.
Guys, they just saw some good vibes.
W Mary. She can do it.
We won the third game, right?
We won the third game, yes.
To be fair, Mary may be no matter what happens,
even if she loses here, she will still have a lower bracket game.
She already won some games in the Clan War yesterday, though no prize money.
Because her team lost.
Oh my god, it's just in the box.
Okay, sorry, you can't see it yet.
Wait, I need to quickly share with you, so you can enjoy as well.
Alright, I'm sharing.
Yeah.
Okay.
That was amazing.
Alright, I'm gonna explain what happened.
He was stuck in a tree, or what?
25 seconds, okay? For 25 seconds, Dante's gave the command to place a 4x4 graveyard in a slot that is 4x4.
Now everyone as a kid learned with the puzzle blocks 4x4 fits in 4x4, square fits in square.
However, there was a ghoul blocking the space. And normally, if the ghoul can easily escape to the left or right, he will.
But, if he's kind of in the middle and you give repeated commands, he gets confused and he gets stuck.
So he was literally fighting the game and his own ghoul, he kept trying, he kept trying over and over and it wouldn't build and he probably screamed at his computer or something and eventually...
I'm not gonna scream! My son! I think it's bugged! It's bugged!
You wouldn't be entirely wrong, I mean it's like gameplay logic reasons for why it was happening but it's never been explained to him, he wouldn't understand why.
so pretty funny stuff just gonna do you think Mary's gonna go for a
different stretch this time whoa I don't know actually she's shown three
different builds so far she had to build where she goes for tier 3 head
hunters and torrents then she has the tower rush she attempted yesterday with
the fire lord second in towers and this is the third where she goes for a blade
shadow, a bunch of grunts headhunter and it goes for double B C re-weaverence. She's always been
close to having a full game plan, but there's always been too many gaping holes, including
making a tiny great hole last game, but not saturating it with any workers at all. So it's
not truly an expansion. So overall, it's not there yet, whatever she did so far. So it's
going to be more about executions on glitters than the specific builds. And I can't anticipate what
what she's going to do this time.
OK, so it's always like something that goes wrong,
then it's just unpredictable.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I was going to ask her what was her biggest mistake,
but yeah, it's just always like something.
Oh, look, that is just the inner base.
What is he doing?
He's coming again with the Dark Ranger Harass.
He just likes to show up, do some life-thrain,
and then run off to some corner of the map and start creeping.
It looks like he didn't like the outcome of just staying there
using abilities so it seems like part of his build is just to show up kind of as
a scout and to confuse perhaps and then look now he's starting to creep.
Oh she's coming though! It's gonna be a fight!
She can steal it! She's gonna be very close to steal it!
League of Legends she should learn this last hitting!
She's not competing for the last hit. He's gonna try to get the ring but he's
getting hit by the hydra. It deepies out you bitch! You coward!
Oh my god! So he got the last hit and the item?
Yeah he got the last hit and the item but he did lose the town portal scroll.
He did lose the town portal scroll so that's a pretty expensive item and Mary
maybe can continue creeping. So he's clouding on her right now?
A little bit. He's still creeping in front of her.
I think there were losses on both sides, but they can both be satisfied about the game state,
because this is the kind of game that Dante's chooses. He creates a small contact moment to
try and disrupt, and then heads off and goes missing for a while, makes a couple of fiends,
and starts creeping. So I don't know how Mary maybe is going to treat this. Her macro looks solid,
she's got her units in production, bros and whatnot, and she is going to try and creep some more camps.
Yeah, she looked so much stronger in that fight, but the scroll makes it, it is untargetable,
right?
So she couldn't, she couldn't kill him, yeah, I remember.
Exactly.
This time Mary maybe used her illusion to scout the gold mine.
She wants to know if she's going to be up against an expansion again.
Not this early yet, will continue creeping, found a snippet of agility.
What she wants to find here is most likely claws of attack from this turtle.
RNG luck does have an impact on the game.
She gets a claws of attack.
It's good for her.
Mary, Mary's hero is higher level. Yeah, what does that make a big difference?
It does it could and it should
But it kind of depends on on many other things as well
She needs to also level up her second hero eventually make a good army and then use it well
And you know, it's never gonna be simple in a game like warcraft 3
Yeah
Sometimes I wish I could fast forward the game because I'm so excited to see what happens next.
If this was a...
Oh my god!
If this was a YouTube video, you would click on the end to see the result.
No, I would score 1.5 speed.
I want to see!
No prediction that I can make yet.
Wait, Dante's is pulling ghouls.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute, this is unusual!
Wait a minute?
He made two fiends.
He has six ghouls with him.
He's making more ghouls.
I think I know what this is.
Dante's came out with a new build.
He doesn't just...
New build?
Yeah, he doesn't just one-trick bone into tier three anymore.
He's level three.
I think he's...
Yeah, there it is.
Monger thought.
Hero from a tavern.
I think he might attack.
Shit.
Oh, shit.
I learned so late that he can just buy a hero from a tavern.
Yeah.
You will not need to know yet, if we have continued your training for a few more months
and glitters eventually we would unlock that attack.
Ah, a few more months huh?
That's a half a month!
A few more months!
Fair.
That's a valid crash out.
Where maybe Ghosts with Dalmatian Mysteries?
They will!
The way that Dante is shaping up, he's going to do an attack.
Either now or somewhere in the next one or two minutes is what his build is telling me.
Okay, okay.
Whereas Mary maybe, she's just going for double windriders again, and she's just going to
try and do it better than last game.
Air units, found another cause of attack, another slippers, these are the best in slot
items she can get.
If this was multi-course, she'd be ready for some winners.
Ooh, okay.
That's a lot of bonus down the slide.
Justice is not hitting the dragons this time, there's just something else.
Okay, that's what I thought, Sun Glitters, but sometimes what someone says and what they do are not the same thing.
Okay, I get it.
He made a bunch of units, but he's just taking to tier 3, so this early timing attack that I thought was going to materialize is not happening.
It could be because Dante doesn't know what he's doing, or it could be because he does know what he's doing.
Yeah, I'm impressed so far.
It might just be making like a safety defensive army that keeps him in the game
while still going to the same conclusion but with a greater delay than before just to make it safer.
One ghoul is gonna die to creeps and maybe creeps on creeping her blade and shadow finds a ring of
regeneration and start a double windrider production.
How long until the windriders come out?
We got the first two on the field.
Oh, they're up there!
They're earlier than griffins, so they're much weaker than the griffins you used to make, the fine chickens.
But they come out a lot earlier.
The thing is, they get covered by fiends, but only if Dante knows to upgrade the web ability, that pulls them down to the ground.
And he hasn't done that yet.
Shouldn't Mary now look for a fight because it's like my strongest point now?
Yes, she should creep a little bit more because she's nearby, creep this and then cancel the gold mine.
Most likely when she sees the mine, she'll just go and cancel it immediately. This does cost her creeping time and it's also going to reveal her tech.
She shouldn't like to be showing it because now Dante's can make web or gargoyle upgrade.
That is after he finishes the six golds he currently has in production.
She also has way more units than him.
She has to strike!
Just to strike.
I hope she does it.
There are towers here.
It takes a base, right?
He canceled all the goals and is upgrading web right now.
So he knows exactly what to do.
And you are right.
She has more units at the moment.
But there are defensive towers Dante's has.
And also Dante says better hero levels.
They're fighting! Fighting soon!
Might be.
They're so close to each other.
Might be.
If they don't fight, I'm gonna crash out.
Cool. Look she's... aww she's collecting on the bridge.
You know what? She should have grabbed this red spot and this spot here on the Goblin Shop.
Why is she so scared? Why is she running? Where is she running from?
You can ask her in the post game.
Why is she running from when it's happening?
Ghosts. Some goodish ghosts.
I think she wants to be near her main when her tier 3 finishes so she can get the tiny greatshole expansion again.
Maybe. She's very mechanical.
I've got to throw up.
It's too passive, right?
It's too passive.
Yeah.
I think so too.
I'm hoping for something.
Dante's made his way to tier 3, he's making loads of fiends.
He has tier 3, now making a shot for the first time.
No boneyard this time, no new acolyte to expand again, but he is getting more creeps.
The bitler is almost level 3, Mary maybe is now going back for a tiny great hole, then
Then she has to pull 5 peons from wood, put them in, and then keep making wind riders.
These are some steps that will be helpful for her, but she's underleveled sometimes.
Yeah.
I think she just wants a huge army and then overwhelm him.
It hikes maybe a little bit, but he's coming.
He's coming.
Or she was expecting the attack and does a counter attack.
It can Codal beast now to go over 50 pop, also getting Codal upgrade, bonus damage, but
she's not in position to defend.
comes in he has cleave and half terror she's gonna hex it immediately and target fire
as well okay he does have great healing potion uses it immediately and there
are the web there's half terror which drops the damage that Mary maybe can do
some glitters oh my god I thought the picture was gonna die but he had like a
huge health pot I did go to comes in Kota should be targeting a fiend here oh
OH OH OH! THE DARK RANGER!
MARIA MAMI KILS THE DARK RANGER LEVEL 4!
LET'S GO MARIA MAMI!
YEEEES!
Oh that's big, that's big!
He's running!
Running away.
She should be hexing fiends here to kill them.
She should be killing one by one fiends, but she's going for the pit lords.
I think the pit lords are too far away.
She's doing a lot of damage.
Killing him.
Another hex.
Killing him.
She can still do two more hexes.
You really think?
Hey!
He turned around!
He turned around one more hex!
In his shock state, I can tell.
I can tell!
It's so shocked!
Yes!
Wait, how did you know?
It's not me and Mary, Nick!
How did you know?
Yeah, I can tell by the movement.
He was moving the other unit and the pit lord was behind.
I think he lost sight of it or something.
Tell.
What have happened to me, too?
What Mary maybe should do is to get a tiny great hole,
research and venom spears on her reverence,
Get another Kodo maybe.
Start upgrading Bloodlust and mine from an expansion while keep creeping.
But she's standing still meticulously sending images to scout for gold mines.
Scouting for gold mines?
This is top tier. That's never gonna be wrong.
But she should be creeping at the same time. There's red spots on the map. You killed both heroes. Let's go, Mary!
Let's go! Let's go!
This is the best game ever!
Look at this!
Oh my god, it's so good!
You look like a bunch of insects moving on the map without hero, just ghouls and fiends.
And Mary maybe is A-P in the middle.
Set type 1 if you believe in Mary.
YES!
I WANT TO SHUT UP!
Sunglitters!
No Mary!
1! She's making invented spears! She's getting another Windrider!
1!
Run, run, run, run, run!
Oh Lee! Now are you married?
I like moving in position to expand again. Mary maybe gets back home gets a tiny great hole
She's gonna expand on the left side. Will she?
Saturated this time with peons remains to be seen she has done three two great holes so far by the way this tournament
two tiny great holes and
Used none of them one on the laboratory and one without peons if she mines here
This is a big improvement target fire on the death night hex nice target fire on the death night hex lots of damage from the
She's blocking her own shadow! She can't get a range for another hex!
Us!
Nice. Kills a fiend. Acolytes didn't quite make it to the gold mine. I don't know where it went, actually. Where is the Acolytes?
It's so easy to get distracted once there is like a fight.
What the fuck is this, dogletters?! Look at the location!
What's with the location? What's wrong with it?
Look!
Yeah, look.
What's wrong with it? It looks perfect for me.
Well, maybe it is. You might be right.
Oh yeah?
You might be right.
Yeah, in a certain way. See what happens.
Just too fast, maybe.
Yeah, maybe I did. Maybe I did.
You know, maybe I am too dogmatic in my thinking. Thank you for helping me break a little bit from
my prison of lack of creativity. Maybe you should expand on the enemy gold mine. It's never going
to be found there. Yeah. Yeah. Did she didn't she expand somewhere else to what's happening to that
area? Is it looking good? Yeah, she's retraining Pions from the tiny great all this time. So she's
She's actually going to have a really good army, some glitch.
She has a shama.
She's trying to get bloodlust upgrade.
She went over 50 population.
Biggest army she had in solo so far.
Lots of weapons with venom.
Her blade is a monster.
This is insane.
This is like warrior main tanking for Ragnaros levels of damage.
Oh, she's also using her resources well, right?
Because I saw a game before from earlier.
She had like 3000 gold almost.
is like consistently down so she's making her stuff right. She's scouting for
expansions and finding them she's moving around the map with control groups
cancelled one of the expansions the one that I thought is a mistake it's
actually the better one proving some glitters is the right analyst for this
set once again. And how's that that is looking right now is not good or what do
Not good. He has a mid-game army in the late game, so it's a little bit
Unadvanced. He has lots of goals and themes. This is the equivalent of doing a double-racks footman play that you did
In your games against Geronimo, but instead of trying to finish in five minutes
He's going to the 20-minute mark. A lot of basic units. It lacks nuance
It lacks some of the hard-hitting power of the abominations and the ice dragons we had before and
He doesn't have the same levels as he did before 4-3-1. Meanwhile, Maryman gets a red spot
Shadow 3.5, Blade 4.5, gets a total Vigility plus 2, and a Health Stone.
She's currently deliberating where to put the Health Stone, I think.
Maybe she can give TP to Shadow and put the Health Stone on the Blade.
So he's just like dying slowly, and it's just got to be inevitable that Mary takes him down.
I hesitate to say inevitable, but she's in a fantastic spot.
And she also has a very good understanding of how to manage the items.
Again, her fundamentals are pretty good, her understanding, she pays a lot of attention
to the attributes.
Oh!
Bloodlust coming in!
Shaman!
Doctor!
Uh, Witch Doctor Upgrade!
Oh, you're fast!
I think this is the first bloodlust in Solo that has ever happened in a Warcraft Invitational
I organized, so that's really hard to say.
Oh!
Okay!
Oh, I feel like she's going to attack.
This is her base attack group.
It's coming.
The thing is, she doesn't need to.
She's mining with an expansion.
There is an undetected expansion by Dante's, but there are some very suspicious acolytes
moving over the map now and then.
If she gets near enough, she will be able to see the blighted ground, which might stand
out like a sore thumb on the minimap, or might go unnoticed by her awareness.
By awareness.
I didn't say she's going to take it.
I didn't say it's bad awareness.
Her eyes may not see it.
I don't supplied.
I didn't just buy an awareness.
What's the feeling of gladiations?
Yeah, of course.
Can I say something, Senglidis?
I feel like you see micro inadequacies, little aggressions in a lot of places where they're
not really there.
You're a little sensitive, man.
Yeah, maybe I am sensitive, or maybe I see right through you, mister.
she's right again for the third time this set attack by Dante's on the gold
mine is a town portal on his death night she has a town portal on the shadow
could choose to walk up or just town portal right on top of him let's see
what she chooses she's gonna town portal this gonna be seen in my song leaders
cast the battle let's go it's all you
I'm a teleport, yes!
Yeah, I don't know what's going...
Mary has some flying guys, they're very strong.
That is just going down, he doesn't even move his stuff.
It's just attacking, auto-attacking.
It looks like to me he gave up.
This is such a good fight.
Oh, he's teleporting!
He's teleporting up and everything died!
Mary baby's crushing him!
Look at the supply, sunglasses!
Look at the supply over here!
The supply's crazy!
that we died to 55.
Incredibly good for Mary, maybe.
So you deserve better.
She made Dante's, her bitch right there
with the bloodlust of Windriders.
This is one of the scariest armies that you can field.
Actually, one of the best builds you can have
against undead bloodlusted Windriders,
but it's so hard to get there.
Yeah, I feel like now, Mary can waste no time.
Take all the units, even the peons, even the workers,
Everything into his base, what do you think?
Arlen?
I wouldn't have done it.
But based on your track record so far, that might just be the right play.
Yeah.
Arlen.
Everything.
Every single actor.
She's getting...
She's getting doctors with master training, doctors and more shamans.
She re-bought Town Portal.
She's so ready for anything that might happen.
She has her control groups, I think, figured out.
She just doesn't know about the gold mine.
gold mine. It was such a smart decision by Dante's to go for this gold mine location spreading
himself across the map again with another gold mine here. But look at this Mary maybe
scouting sending an image to one place and to the other. She's going to be wise into
Dante's restriction tonight.
She's playing good. Yes. Damn. You can make me think that the worst players in the world
but they're crushing. Well, they're both doing everything a lot better than I expected today
in particular. It's just it's really cool to see. I think they gain some confidence from their matches
yesterday as well. It's a super fun format. The Clan War we got all the games we were hoping for
and yeah they're playing really nicely. Now Mary maybe said before on stream she'll continue playing
Warcraft 3 after this tournament probably. I take that with a grain of salt but if that's really
going to happen I think that would be fun to see how far she can get because she really has a lot
lot of very good habits yeah yeah I also thought I was gonna keep playing but
holy someone it's so hard that's some did you say that's just good so I don't
know my confidence was so down I was like there's no way I can't get a thousand
mmr and then I just kept playing and then I thought yeah there is a way I
can't get it. Bloodblast, heal ward, mirror image, healing wave, Venom Spears, this is such a huge
attack by Mary maybe, she has such a good army, 85 population, she is destroying Dante's,
Pit Lord almost down and he goes down, level 5, Blade Master, some glitters.
Ooh, ooh, ooh, yeah, it looks like it's Gigi.
I'm waiting for the text, you know, the Gigi, the SMD.
Maybe she got humbled by her throw after the initial little thrash talk.
Maybe it's all serious business here.
This is actually such an impressive army to control as well as she is.
85 population army with like seven different units, two spellcasters.
We're talking about the level of control. It's like controlling four different League of Legends champs
Every unit that she has has several abilities
She's having to manage like different abilities at the same time and she's doing it with flying colors. I'm super impressed
I'm glitters. This is how many control units is that?
This would be you if you practice one more week some glitters if you just stick with marker three for one more week
This will be you
Damn, maybe I can do it. I
Think she has two to three control groups here
actually and Dante's not giving up yet he's gonna unsummon his gold mine which
is empty of the mine she's a fully attacking he's gonna rebuild
he's gonna rebuild me never give up keep going never say die you think he's
being a make oh no he just leaves no duty that's fucked up no message no
No message.
Wow.
It doesn't give her any satisfaction from the win.
Just quit.
Man.
Damn.
That's so cool, man.
That's so cool.
What a game.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
I'm so glad that it was not a 2-0 from anyone.
Now we get a third match.
Now I'm imagining alternative reality and possibly fantasy.
What if Mary Baby wins here and then beats you, Matto Canaan and goes to the finals?
Of course, Mary wins now. She got the confidence.
I think she maybe was just a little bit nervous the first game.
Now it's momentum. She got this, I believe it's.
One of the Q-chatters in the chat managed to get us an instant replay.
It is a moment of where the ghoul was stuck by the graveyard once again.
I'm going to go ahead and host the lobby first, get the players in,
And then we're going to be taking a look at that moment.
Actually, I realize we have instant replay capabilities.
I thought, oh, that's not something we actually produced.
But we have it because we have chat.
You can just send a clip.
It's already there.
The technology is already there.
This isn't TV.
OK, let's watch this clip.
That's a good clip.
Oh, yeah, he's peeling me.
Oh, I need to hear that too.
What?
Look at his face!
What?
That's...
Wow.
What?
Look at his face!
What?
That's... wow.
What?
He said calmly.
It's perfect.
I told you, I had no idea what's going on.
Okay, maybe he was just thrown off by what happened in the early game.
Maybe I can't say Mary wins 100% because that would throw me off too.
You know, like he was like in a rage, rage state.
And then you just forget, forget about what you want to do.
So now if this doesn't happen again, maybe he, um,
he will get back into his like state, like usual state.
He's, uh, it's flow state, if you will.
Yeah, the flow state, yeah.
What areas of practice have you been in a flow state before in various moments like sports or games or something, son?
Yeah.
Are you going to share what or is it secret?
No, I've played I've played house tournaments before and you know like sometimes you get
really mad at mistakes that happen to you or like if you get unlucky but I feel like
if you're in the flow state you just you just tell yourself okay this happened before I
know I know what happened and you just go laser mind yeah and that's what it's like yeah
You know, sometimes when I'm
Unconfident, insecure, I go to a tournament, everything is wrong.
People are making too much noise, the lights are off, I'm cold.
Uh, there's all kinds of annoyances.
It's gets deep inside.
You don't believe, but when you do believe, like you did in some of your games,
like we all did in some of our games, you're going to have the faith that
anything is going to be okay.
No matter what goes wrong, you'll deal with it.
That's a very encouraging thought.
Yeah, you just, you just have to deal with it.
Yeah.
No matter no matter what goes on never give up
So that's why I thought it was nice even though that is was so behind
He's still kept expanding made another good mine or whatever that was
Don't give up just rule with it. Yeah, the whole state and I think it's going back to him
It's a good gold mine. He's currently thinking about what to do next. He seems to be in okay sped it's we see a little smile on that face and
The map is gonna be Northern Isles now. I'm just checking the notes
it looks like Northern Isles is the map choice for Dante's. Yeah, well, by default, actually,
it's by default, because it's the remaining one. Hammerfall was my maybe's choice. Yeah.
I was watching the stream earlier and Tyler was there. So whoever is winning is facing Tyler?
Well, only if you accept and assume that whoever wins this loses to Yamato Canon, which I'm
not ready to accept yet, are you?
No, I'm not.
No.
Same, same.
Krabi, what if you make it a little bit harder for Yamato?
Let him start a minute later or something.
I like it, but this is not the tournament where I was going to do that.
Once I can just enter the map and we'll continue picking up on that thought.
I think we have a join bug possibly.
What? It looks like it's working.
It looks like it's working.
No, I thought about that, because sometimes there's a big skill level difference between
different participants in the tournament, and then you can kind of make that more fair
with handicaps, but you know why I don't do it?
Because the training arc is part of the process, if I were to do that, then future participants
would know that I'm going to give them handicaps if they don't train enough and then they're
going to get coddled by the social system of handicap for opponents. So I want people
to work hard, pull themselves up by their bootstraps, no advantages. Now, if I did a
tournament and I said, Sunglin, will you join the tournament? It's tomorrow and I'm
inviting these eight people of different scale, then it would be okay. But I don't want to
detract from the training arc with the promise of handicaps if you don't make it.
Yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense.
Okay, so you're waiting for your share?
Oh yeah, yeah, sorry, sharing.
No problem.
Alright, game number three between Mary Maybe and Dante.
She's gonna open up with the trusty Blade Master once again.
One grunt into headhunters.
order is pretty much perfect. And on the other side Dante's is going to open up once again with the
graveyard. I think you have no problem spawning it this time. It's going to open up with the Dark Ranger.
I think Mary should just do the same thing that she did last game because that won't seem to work
really well. Bloodlust and Windriders. Yeah, it looks really good. Yeah, it was so cool. I feel
She really locked in and I feel like if you if you do the same thing twice in a row, then it's
Harder to make some
That mistake. Yeah, for sure for sure. Exactly. Yeah a different build every time
You know, I mean I do the same thing in League of Legends
It doesn't matter how much experience you have when you play a new game
You want to limit yourself so that you can get a little more familiarity
By doing the same thing over. That's true. You're exactly right. It's true
Here comes the dark ranger pickup again by Dante's.
If he looks at it, he's late, 5 seconds late, 6 seconds late, sometimes I think, okay,
who cares about 5 seconds?
But probably in walker 3 it does make a big of a difference, especially when you get higher
in skill level.
But so is she, Mary maybe is also 30 seconds late to start the creep curve, so in this
case you could say it doesn't matter.
the green just shows up is he sees a headhunter he's gonna maybe attack or
life-frame peons which why is he sending a peon out she's attacking
why and why are goals here
very cool attack gonna try here her headhunter is gonna die her peon for
some reason it's auto attacking she pulled one out of the gold now this could be bad for her because
she didn't notice it when she pulled workers out of the gold in their ladder game i know what's
going on it's so hard to target those little guys those workers she killed two units three
three units peon grunt and headhunter killed and she and the heat sorry i called Dante's and she
Dante's
That is killed three units appeal the grunt and add on there and TPed out
This was a dark ranger blow attack. It was really nice and Mary maybe
Crucially accidentally pulled a peel out of gold. She may never notice this 80% income
So yeah, that was crazy from Dante's because we know like you can't throw Mary off her game
Right, so if if he attacks so early and she's gonna enter the shock state a little bit
I hope she will notice the gold. How big of a difference is it that she only has four gold-wackers?
Exactly 20%. So she's mining 80% instead of 100%. But she noticed it.
Okay, nice. Okay, awesome.
Not too bad. She lost about 100 gold from that.
That's not too bad, right?
Because he also lost time going to her, no?
Yeah, yeah, that's true. He did TP home and unless you need to TP again, then losing a TP is not that big of a deal.
He TP's home and starts creeping. But if you remember how Mary maybe started winning that game, it's because she was targeting Dark Ranger who had no Town Portal.
So it's kind of like you're borrowing from the future if you use your Town Portal.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, I'm proud of her that she noticed the gold because I feel like it's hard when you attack so early.
He spoke too soon!
She pulled four pionts out of the wood!
What did they do?
Don't lie!
I know why this happened.
So there's something she does where she accidentally double clicks all the pions,
builds a burrow,
and then shift clicks the trees.
So she's using a good habit of taking one lumber pion,
building something,
and then shift clicking back to the tree.
But because she accidentally has everything selected and not noticing it,
One beyond builds the burrow and the others say,
oh, you want me to shift to tree?
You want me to do that next?
So after one gold trip, they go to wood
and she just stops mining.
Oh no!
Ah, it's not yet.
That's human autistic, right?
I hope so, some gooders, I hope so.
Else it's GG.
Yeah, yeah, it's super GG.
And this is the second time it happened to her
against Dante's, no less.
Meanwhile, Dante's is still mining with everything.
making the slaughterhouse go into your three so I think he's back to his abomination frostworm build
I can't think of anyone anything else other than the gold miner right now
I know I know I'm just like oh can't please please please please please
and you know if you have your finger on the pulse you should be noticing it why am I not
getting any gold she's at 180 but because her tier two hasn't finished she won't look for bonus
gold until she tries to make her shadow and will then not understand why she can't make it
that's how it happened last time and sadly she didn't learn from it
it's already been too long without gold right yeah it's already hard to recover
she is currently 900 gold behind and falling behind another eight gold per second
now she will try to make shadow she will say why can't i make shadow and then she will be like oh no
I have tears in my eyes thinking about the moment where she realizes what's happening
because I can feel it in myself too if that what happened to me.
Yeah.
She's like, oh fuck.
I'm sure.
I kind of feel like we're watching a power crash song leaders.
Like it's hard to look away but I don't want to look either but like what else are we going
to look at?
Yeah, I would just stare at the gold mine the entire time.
Okay, let's just look at it.
That's the only thing that matters, right?
What is she going to do if she can't build anything?
She has 26 units, she does have enough space,
so shouldn't she build more?
She has to notice it soon.
Somehow she has no second hero
and had enough money to make double beast theory,
but still didn't notice that she has a thousand lumber and no gold.
She's going to go do a play where she tries to find out if there's an expansion,
Without any reinforcement ever happening again, it's pretty cool.
Yeah.
Yeah, what is she currently doing?
She's just like fighting minions in the forest.
She's thinking about stopping Expo's because she has become aware that Dante's often does
it.
Divorced from everything else, this could be a good play.
Yeah.
Oh no.
That's such a simple mistake.
You know, it's like a matter of like two seconds.
Maybe even less.
You know, like the shift thingy.
Yeah.
And then you don't look at it again because you're like, to do that, she has to be like
comfortable with with like a keybinds and stuff so that is not bad it's just
like a simple mistake. Her keybinds are good but she sometimes accidentally
double clicks she just noticed she just noticed I was getting back to work but
she has lost a grand total of one thousand and eight hundred gold and what if
if she still wins.
Yes!
Like it!
That is could make some f**ker of...
I mean, sorry.
Some big mistake.
Oh, you can...
This is not official Blizzard broadcast
where you have some sponsored prize money.
It's just personal streams.
You can say anything you want.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, oh my God.
I'm really rooting for her now, especially because...
I don't know.
I think it's such a simple mistake
and it shouldn't be punished at all.
Just take the miss click.
Yeah, I know what you mean, like, the thing is, Dante did nothing wrong, right?
Like, he shouldn't be disadvantaged just because she did that.
He's playing better, he deserves it.
She did do something terrible, but I agree.
You know, I understand what you're saying.
It's a single click.
Everyone that's recruiting for her wishes for more that she could have, you know,
had 1800 gold more.
But at the end of the day, Dante didn't make as big of a mistake.
He's farming.
He's got insane items on the Bitlord, which is going to be level three
and he's re-expanding once again.
Yeah, I know, it's such a huge mistake,
but it seems like such a simple thing.
You know, not like a huge scale gap or anything,
it's just like, you went a little bit too fast
and didn't notice this.
This is why Simply was saying,
Warcraft 3 should have week-all rush,
where it tells you when you have missing workers.
And to be fair, if it was like, wow,
there would be an add-on that would tell you
things are missing.
The World of Warcraft got made.
You're resting next to me or something.
Yes!
arrow you only have one they will be in the middle of your screen if this was
watermark graphs one out of five in gold
yeah
oh damn yeah i wonder what's going through her head right now
she doesn't seem to give up though yeah she seems locked in when i look at her
camera she has finally started her shadow hunter
despite all that uh still need to make creeping happen
You don't have to wait for the shadow. You should just go take a red spot. You have the army that can handle it
But I'm not sure she knows look at this inventory on the pit Lord plus 10.7 armor
15% miss chance anytime he gets attacked and he's got a 950 health and if he ever dies, he'll come back to life with onk. Oh
Wow nine. Oh
So, um, I guess what's in Mary maybe's favor that she could still recover is that that is doesn't know she's so weak, right?
Yeah.
But they're meeting each other now.
Yeah, you're right.
He doesn't know that that was missing.
She's going to tier three.
She's about to get her shadow.
Doesn't have to fourth bro yet.
Another thing in Marymabies' favor, she has a lot of lumber.
Because she mines so much extra with the gold peons, she'll never run out of lumber.
Yeah, true.
True, true, true.
So percentage wise, what are Mary's chances to win?
2%.
It's good enough for me. She can do it!
It's more than you would think, maybe.
We've got some acolytes, passive here as well.
There's no web yet for the fiends.
He's upgrading the web now. It's going to take, I don't know, 20 seconds?
Yeah, 30 seconds.
So she missed her window. The big windrider reveal.
Next time, the fiends are going to be pulling them down to the ground.
There's no bloodlust here, no venom spears.
She doesn't have the number she had before and she's been cowed into
Inactivity in her own base when really there's so many creeps on the map and Dante's you know
He's happy to waste her time because he has a gold mine
Yeah, but I'm also like I was just thinking about it
How cool it would be for dentists to win too because everyone thought he would never win a match, right?
Who and think cool
Yeah, I mean
with where maybe in the tournament as well it was always going to be coin flip between
them.
Oh, coin flip?
I thought that people were saying that Mary's much more likely to win.
Yeah, it's looking really good.
It's close.
Yeah, in some ways she's better, but in a really big way that matters, he never pulled
all his workers off gold.
So it feels kind of rotten, like not being harsh here, but like it has a really big effect.
Yeah.
Oh, here we go.
It looks like a fight.
Yeah, so these are really tanky, these abominations.
They have disease clouds.
Oh, that looks not good.
Yeah, she looks, her units look really skinny.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, no.
That's true.
And a testament to the good visual design of the game, that you can kind of tell what
they look like, that these are, these are guys are throwing toothpicks and they're very
squishy.
These guys are big
Avunculer yeah, yeah, really skinny. You would just walk over her
Don't taste this gold mine is here
He's getting close to 80 population themes and a bombs being made and most of all he keeps creeping
Mary maybe took a long time to find a way to the next creep camp
I think she hasn't killed anything in about five minutes
She made a rate to tier three now. She has a big bank 1000 could have been 2800
She will need to make her way back home at some point for the Tiny Great Hall, but one
thing she does, she does everything in the same order.
So even though she could make Spirit Lodge now and start Bloodlust, she has previously
learned to do it after she starts the Tiny Great Hall.
Aha!
There we go.
Spirit Lodge.
Yeah, I feel like it's hard to mentally recover from such a big mistake.
Yeah.
And just keep going.
The thing is, it is still winnable from here.
I think maybe if I took over, I would have a 10% chance, but...
Or if you took over even only 10%?
I think so. That's crazy.
Yeah, because the fiends, they web automatically.
There's just so much meat to chew through, so tanky army with high DPS.
There's such a big hero level difference.
Oh, he's coming! Oh, no!
I can just like hear boss music.
No, and that is how many it's Mary, maybe.
True.
Oof.
Go for it, Dante!
He's gonna go make the kill.
She bought the town portal, looks like she wants to kill the gold mine like MTP home,
but he's coming in.
She has no reinforced defenses.
Big thousand gold bank.
Oh, shit, and she just left her base.
Will she dare to continue killing this gold mine?
Yeah, yeah, but this base race one against two base and one windrider is dying to a tower
It's not good
Oh my god
Very very difficult for Mary. Maybe here has level one shadowed if he has heal wave with no hex
She's taking down the towers first
This will take another 15 seconds to finish off at least by that time. She's lost her bestiary
A basis doesn't yet she have to go back?
Oh she wants to kill this first to even up the income and only once she has killed it
will she go back.
By that time there won't be much left but it's really a catch to when you kill it.
If she leaves the gold mine up she will also never recover.
Oh no.
Okay, if she tipis back here she's gonna get insta-webbed and everything is gonna die.
Ooh, tough one.
See you wave, life drain on one of the windriders. Dante's attacked something. Wait, Dante's
is still attacking the fortress with his fiends!
He's ignoring her!
Yeah, he was ignoring her army for a while. I was wondering why nothing was getting webbed,
but there we go.
Okay.
Honestly, deserved.
Like finish the Nexus.
Deserved for Dante's. Sad to see him for a very maybe fan, of course. She lost her
hero with greater healing potion flustered and destroyed Dante's with the
deserving victory here to one against Mary baby yeah cool games oh my god yes
that's crazy this was the most the most exciting from the tournament like
those were my favorites I think it was very close the second game was a lot of
fun the first one was okay the third one was frustrating I think painful to see
yeah the peons out of the gold mine it's it's not how you want to present
yourself in front of an audience either so painful the second game in the first
those were a lot of fun kudos to both players for giving it their best even
though it was yeah not super high level I think it was still fun so that is the
next game the next game is gonna be Dante's against
I think your motto cannon is twice as good as Geronimo was, so it's a really big gap.
It's a big gap between him and Dante's.
If Dante's takes one map, I would consider that a huge win.
I hope he has some cheese strategy.
It would have to be some kind of cheese and well controlled, but it is not impossible.
It is not impossible.
Alright, Dante's against Shimada Canon is going to be the next one that comes up.
After that, we still have Mary maybe against Pox in the lower bracket.
Thank you for the rate, Sing Sing.
Those are going to be the two matches that are going to be coming up.
I'm gonna be figuring out what the co-cast situation is.
Don't go anywhere yet.
We'll discuss on Discord, Sungleaders, and see what's up.
I'm gonna be throwing it into a small break, five minutes.
Sungleaders, thanks for joining us for this series.
Bye, Chet.
Welcome to the Altered Champions,
an eight-player Warcraft 3 Invitational tournament.
Today on the 15th May, 2026, there is the Clan War.
We have 8 streamers that are divided into 2 teams of 4 players each.
They will work together to win as a team today.
They'll play up to 5 matches that are all best of 3.
To win, a team must score 3 victories.
On the left hand side, we have Team Alpha, captain by Tyler1.
He will be joined by Yamato Cannon, Simply and MaryMaby.
On the right hand side, there is Team Omega, captain by Hera.
He joins forces with Pox, Maxime and Dante's.
The opening match is called the Headliner.
It is a one-on-one match that begins on springtime.
Each team captain will choose one player to send in, blindly and unaware of the other
team's choice.
Will the captain send themselves, send in their strongest, send a sacrifice, or send
a special matchup assassin to take out an expected opponent?
Next up, team coordination will be put to the test.
The co-op battle is a 2 vs 2 match that begins on the map Synergy.
A team's two players spawn very closely together on this one.
The captain may not reuse their headliner player for the 2 vs 2.
Thirdly, we will have the ultimate test of team spirit and the management of order through
chaos.
In the 4 on 4, everyone plays.
It's a full on brawl of team vs team to score another point for a team.
All 4 on 4 maps will be played on Aerothor.
The fourth match is called the Redemption match.
If the Clan War isn't over with a 3-0 score already, there's going to be a Redemption match.
The player that hasn't featured yet in the headliner or co-op battle must be sent in
for a fourth point in this Clan War.
This match will take place on Tidehunters.
In the exciting event of a 2-2 score, the Ace match will decide it all.
The captains will likely send their best to decide it all in a final best of three, which
begins on the autumn leaves. Each winning player of a team that won the clan war will win $500
for themselves and the winning captain gets to pick their first one-on-one tournament bracket
opponent from the other team. The captain will... Yeah, I can't multitask. I totally forgot my little
guys were not foreign. Yo, thank you for the raid, Tyler. Thank you very much. The the rare title
It's an honor GGs today. I'm gonna join up with a sunglitter's and Mary
Maybe to cast this next series of Dante's against your monster cannon
The second game you got this easy. I know the second game was fine because he wasn't distracting me with the third game
He was fucking with me again. Oh my god. I hate him. Yeah
Hi, I
Don't you feel but after that series
I'm doing this fucking annoying. I hate him your second game was pretty good and new bills you
microde a very yeah because he didn't distract me I was focused like I was like oh I got this
going I got this going like I was locked in and then third game he's fucking with me again took
out like two of my units and I I lost money for that and then he came in again distracting me I
I forgot to put my peon's back on goal.
Like he's just, bro, he lowkey counters me
because I lose focus easily.
Everyone tries to do some early pressure in Warcraft 3.
It's extra effective if people are known to lose
their focus when getting messed with.
Resilience must be built up.
If your work has kept mining,
you got a pretty damn impressive army.
Bro, even the freaking other game that became a meme,
I placed my town hall by goblin thing
because I was too busy shit talking.
Like, I decide not to shit-talk him this game,
because he's distracting me.
Yeah, I noticed that.
You know, you're spying.
Yeah, I actually placed it down,
because I made my units walk a little too far left
while I was shit-talking Dante's,
and then I just placed it, and I was like, fuck!
I saw that.
I was so tilted, I was like, no way I did that.
The second time, are you still coming back, too, or not?
Son, sorry.
I think I play, oh, Sungletters.
coming back for what?
Do you want to do it?
Do you want to?
With Mary together?
Yeah.
Yes.
If Mary wants me, what am I doing?
Like, do you want to co-cast the next series, Mary?
Or do you want to have?
Oh, like, tomorrow?
No, now.
Now?
Oh, I thought that's why I'm here.
Yes, OK.
Yeah, that's why you're here.
I'm just going to join here.
She's not impressed.
That's why I'm here on Iktale.
Yeah, but I'm not forcing you.
I'm just, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
No, no, I saw your message at your, like,
at where you want to come in and you co-cast,
so I didn't see.
Oh my god, I'm getting trolled here.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I messed with you.
I thought, I thought it was you.
Mary, he deserves a Dorpheah band.
What?
Really?
Why, what did I ever do to any one of you,
except to help you to become the best possible version of yourself in Warcraft 3.
Yeah, why roasting the shit out of us?
What?
I turned down me so much.
You're talking...
Are you saying you're holding yourself back? You want to say so much more to us?
Yes, of course. I want to be the Russian teacher too.
I really appreciate you guys' time investment, trying a new game genre that is very complicated,
difficult and hard to get into.
So I do my best to teach the game to the level that you guys are at.
It's honestly a lot of fun to see you play.
I wish for the best games for you.
Both of you have done very well, especially compared to your MMR.
There's a lot of good habits built up, good control groupings.
generally very fun to see. Now I'm also disappointed that Mary maybe didn't mind gold in game number
three because she could have done more. It seems to be like the common trope like you know the Goblin
town hall and then like when I was I think solo queue against Dante's I forgot to put my five
pions on gold like I it's like pions that are holding me back. I hate the workers
instead of me having to tell them what to do every time.
Yeah, thank you, Graby. It seems like such a small mistake to make.
You know, like double-clicking wrong or something, and you get punished so hard.
Yeah, there was a game where I actually double-clicked them into gathering wood
instead of going back to the mines, and I was like, fuck.
I'm so bad with peons. Like, I can jungle a micro, but when it comes to build management,
I forget them.
You know what I think the little people you know what I think happens
You know what I think happens
I think you accidentally select all your peons you built a burrow
Then you shift click to trees, but your gold mine peons are selected when you do that and you didn't notice it
May yeah, I guess I don't know
It's always the gold mines that
Always make me lose. It's kind of funny
I think we have the players coming in a little bit here. Yamato Kanan is here.
Yo Yamato, welcome to the upper bracket finals. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much. We appreciate that. Dante, sorry, I'm gonna be honest, bro.
I just need to lower your volume. Listen, if you can make this play.
Let me follow you for them again. Okay, cool. Sorry. I didn't know that you're sharing was already that bad
You know like 35 you need to be expecting that so we kind of get you know, I mean
I'd rather be 35 me then fucking 18 year old you or the fuck you are. Oh
Is that coming I'm 24
Okay, what are you flirting with me? Oh, that's weird
No, I'm saying I'd rather be myself
the whatever the fuck age you are man okay anyways your motto as I was saying
listen I know you spent all my practicing but we might as well save
everybody's time and just like quick ff you know what I mean bro who are you
talking about him are you Jim like listen it's not gonna be close your
motto is gonna sit there was no fucking human strategy whatever the fuck he does
his old Griffin riders and my human side damn I'm happy you figured out what
race I'm playing. I'm gonna be honest. I think I was doing work strategy, an undead strategy.
What kind of a different strategy could I do? I don't know dude, like you're human,
obviously it's a human strategy. It didn't seem so obvious when you tried to shit talk 10 seconds
ago. What? But I said human like 10 seconds ago. Yeah, you said that you're gonna sit there with
with my human strategy. Liza, that's a surprise.
I think what Yamato's pointing out, if you say that the grass is green, you're saying
something unnecessary. The human adjective he felt it was unnecessary. He was poking
fun at the fact that you didn't know simply as Night Elf.
Oh! Yeah. Anyways, so listen, I can tell you about human, what we do.
Okay, tell me.
Just let me know. More questions, I'll answer.
What's your strategy this game tell me I
Will make sure that you will not produce a single frost one
Okay, even if you try your absolute hardest
Let's make it interesting then if you're that confident
Let's make a deal that if I get a single frost one you instantly
FF the game and I take game one deal or no deal
That's not a deal
Wait, no but Yamato, the thing is I'm retarded bro, so you should be able to get the easiest
like 2-0 of your life.
So even if you sandbag game 1 on this insane deal, why not do it Yamato?
You're the highest rank of the tournament bro, I'm the second lowest rank, it's such
a free win for you, and you get the order points.
Think about it bro, how does that sound?
Bro, you're going to fucking go with your hero, put out patchy spots, you're gonna
fucking build your fucking boneyard next to a fucking
laboratory or some shit
Like Mary Mary's expo
Strays me and then he does this he's just gonna fucking distract you
How about this?
Shut the fuck up and let's start the game
Someone's scared I'm getting in your head you model. I'm like I'm like a little parasite, but I'm in there
I'm like snuggling up in your brain. How does it feel? All right, let's let's keep you there
Let's get the show on the road. Thanks both for joining for the
I'm gonna take it away with Mary baby and some glitters guys ready up here. We go. I
Kind of like the suggestion not gonna lie which one
F once you build one first frostburn was it called the dragon
Yeah, the crossword, yeah exactly. We're going to need a color switch, VV, if you can do a color switch, because I got the colors the wrong way around, thank you very much.
We're starting things off, Northern Isles with the first game of this upper bracket finals. We're in the lobby.
Dante is in the bottom left against Yamato Kanan in the top right. The score is nil nil.
The loser of this will meet simply in the upper bracket finals and be guaranteed of a top three in the tournament.
Top three is crazy.
It's quite fast to get there already, right?
Yeah, that's going quick now.
Gonna screen share as well and there it is. All right, we got that.
Alright, so guys, Mary-May-Bee, Sun-Glithers, you'll have to say I'm not going to let you make a single Frost Worm.
Do you think that he can make it on that promise?
I haven't really seen a Martyr's game, so I... like, is he very aggressive?
Not normally. He usually goes for an early fast expansion, but it looks like honouring Dante's with a long game
game it's not something that he would feel should pass muster so maybe it's
just gonna do like an early attack I feel like late game wise Yamato might have
the opportunity I'm just like dude I'm just bad I feel like Yamato actually has
a chance he doesn't forget his pay-ons on gold like I do I feel like he would do
way better than I would. I feel like Dundee does have a chance.
Yeah, that's what Grummy was saying earlier too. There's no chance that Dundee's wins. So I really,
I really like the suggestion of, okay, I make you FF, you know, because I feel like
Dundee's is aware that he doesn't have a big chance against.
Yeah, I think that would have actually been kind of content. I think Yamato Canon, if I had to guess,
I would say he was 30% close to accepting that by his pride, by the skill diff, by the content.
But the fact that he doesn't is a testament to how seriously he is taking this.
There is a mindset you can have where you clown around and when you show off and when you show
that it's entertainment first and winning comes second. But let's not forget the sacrifice
Yamato Kanon made. He has his anniversary with his wife today and she agreed to it that they're
going to postpone it to later this week or next weekend so that he can focus on doing
this. Yamato Kanon is training pro players in League of Legends as a coach every single
day of the year. This is his chance to achieve his own glory, to do his own thing, to take
the role of one of his players would be to do the best possible thing he can. For three
weeks he trained 12 to 16 hours a day, grinding, sleeping very little.
I'm joking he slept on stream 12 to 16 hours a day after this tournament
Sunglitters he's gonna do three hours of study he's got oh my god so Mary maybe
we have a bit of luck you can always use my yeah I'm like struggling you can
use my display capture from discord oh okay thank you you lost the game from
them. No, no, no, it's all my god, whatever. I don't care.
It's an automatic lag screen. Yeah. But I'm just saying, even
though Yamato feels 100% sure that he's going to beat Dante's,
there is a mindset difference to allowing such clownery rules to
actually make their I laugh. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's fine. It's
gonna it's gonna resolve in a few seconds. I like his mindset.
That's all I'm saying. He knows what he's doing this for. He
wants to win yeah but I also also like Dante's mindset because he knew where he has to like
put his dagger in you know into the pride maybe he would have accepted no that was that was
I think the only part of the pre game trash talk I enjoyed the the proposition like okay
if I don't get the worm if I do get the worm then then do I win by default no it's good
Let's go.
Yeah, I want your mantra to really go in though, like really crush him, like early, harassment,
this, that, so he forgets to do anything.
That's what I want to see.
And he's going to do just that, sunglasses.
I've just seen what he's doing.
He's taking six Militia to solo creep this camp without any hero presence.
Experience attribution is global.
Meanwhile, there's four Militia that tried to creep the 3-2 camp here, but it was already
gone because Dante's took it.
That's going to give him levels while he's across the map.
His goal was to do a four-minute attack, and it's four minutes now, with Archmage level
three, as his Militia are killing creeps.
But because Dante's took away two creep camps that he wanted, he'll actually be a little
bit delayed.
He's going to have to kill two creeps here, and then he's going to summon a whole bunch
of Water Elementals level two in attack.
This is a one base play, no expansion base play.
But if Yamato fares that, then Dante actually has a chance, right, because he's like all
in right now?
Yes.
Like, yeah?
Yeah, you're right.
Yamato's kind of putting all his eggs into the aggression basket.
He's gonna summon a bunch of level 2 water and metals, but he will be running into a
Neurubian and a Spirit Tower.
Better on that, don't make this many towers, but Dante uses it as a crutch to be safer.
And that might just be in his favor for the build that Yamata can manage to do here.
Yeah, that tells a very good strategy game, right?
Yes.
They just kill little guys.
But it's a terrible slotter house position, so that's going to get cancelled immediately.
My question, who's more favorable humans or undead?
I think undead has a small advantage, but that's especially true at the high level.
Here it probably doesn't even matter, Mary.
Okay, but Dante's noticed that he's getting attacked.
Is he gonna cancel the slaughterhouse?
No, it dies! Full cost!
Wait, so he's going for the full aggression before the worms, the dragon worms.
Yes, yeah, he's trying to prevent worms from ever being reached.
Yeah, that's what he said to me in the beginning.
By applying pressure, he canceled slaughterhouse, he has delayed the castle timing
By by by by Dante's but there it is Dante's even though he's being pressured
He still goes to tier three. He starts his holes of the debt into black citadel upgrade
And you know what I don't think this was the right strategy choice for Yamato nor the execution
Yeah, he really didn't get much out of this
He just sent them in and gave it to me
Yeah
I'm like afflicted because I want Yamato to win because fuck Dante's but also I want Dante's to win because it'd be funny if a fellow shitter wins
Like I hate him but also want to support him for both that
That's it. Yeah, I feel connected to you both because of that too. I
Feel connected to you both because I coach both of you to try and be less bad. I
I wonder which coach taught me to put the town hall by the goblin factory wasn't me
I think that's you Mary my coaches were great I wish we had more coach time
together but you were busy and the time zones so it is what it is oh I know I'm
like struggling right out like I'm sorry if I seem tired I'm I'm on my opposite
sleep schedule so I'm like down in coffee with some water so I'm trying to
like stay awake thank you I think that's just this winning I just saw him kiss some
gold mine guys yep he killed a gold mine he's expanding he's creeping he's
actually higher level no joke he has more XP he has a second base he's taken
to tier 3 he's ahead in every single way except he is Dante's and Yomato Jumato
that's the only Yomato I've ever seen.
He's in every single way except he's himself.
Yeah.
Oh okay.
Is he not gonna check the expose?
Well he just randomly puts the expose down this whole time.
Yep.
Uh he put one on your expansion.
And he just yolos it?
Yeah he just yolos it.
He doesn't believe in defending them generally. He made those two towers against you in one game,
but mostly he just makes them. Yeah, that first game was raw.
Mary, maybe do you know the cacoo bird?
Nope. The cacoo bird actually lays her egg in another species' nest and then just dips out
and never shows again. Oh. That's kind of like how Dante treats his expansions.
It's not going to take care of them.
Yeah, I see how he got me.
Yeah, you get cacout.
Dante's?
Yeah, go ahead.
Oh, I was going to say, the strata I was using on him, I literally learned last second last
night.
So I wasn't very polished on it, so I forgot to check his expo's.
You actually did the expo checking pretty good, but he took like a bad expo.
Oh, second game I did better.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is as good as his expo, I didn't realize.
Yeah.
You scouted for it quite well.
I actually called it a bad expo location by Dante's, but Sunglit is correctly analyzed
that it was good.
Uh oh, oh, oh, Dante's!
Dude, is he about to dart at me?
What's wrong?
I lost this!
You lost this!
Wow!
I'm so tilted.
He didn't make such a mistake against you!
That's crazy!
He just came out man!
I hate him!
He did!
I'll get him in the beginning!
Oh no!
The Lelta cannon is attacking.
There's no Boneyard yet.
Bitlord is being remade.
This is a gold mine without eggs, by the way, and not much of a cocoonast.
Oh look at this, Workshop and Arcane Vault, Yamato Kanan is going to start a slow siege
of mortar teams.
That's so funny.
It reminds me of the Fire Lord, Roshan again.
Yeah, it's very similar, he had a lot of money.
If he had made catapults that game, he would have maybe won.
I learned that.
Shaina is so good at pushing, I remember like cause the water element is so tanky.
Yeah.
Just takes the tower shots.
Stone gold on the death knight is a lot of them.
Oh, it's- look, he's a hero!
Life drain to heal the death knight.
Nice job by Dante's, but Dante's needs to make Meatwagon with disease clouds, or statues.
Uh, but Meatwagon's disease cloud is very good in these situations.
I don't think he knows about that though.
Coil level 1 on the mountain king.
He almost could kill the death knight and he gets him.
Okay.
Oh my god, he dead.
If he didn't die to the jungle camp, his guy would have been there by now to help.
Dark Angel goes down.
Yamato-Kannon, with the push, Adontis looks kinda cooked here.
Pit Lord is finally back from the dead from his inglorious defeat at the hands of the creep camp.
Mortar Team has come out for Yamato-Kannon and is starting to siege Ghouls.
I think this is the meanest thing you can do to like a bad player.
Like early push and then disrupt their thought process and then they're panicking.
I can think of meaner things.
I can think of meaner things, I'm glad.
Like what?
Solo warden, no units.
They're drawing out the 30 minutes.
Got a boneyard coming out here for Dante's, but I'm not sure that he's going to be able to get a frost worm to come out on time.
He's being pushed heavily.
It's like I'm enjoying this, but I also feel bad.
It's just so bad. Look at his chickens running back and forth.
Full mana on pit lane by the way, who didn't cast any spells?
I didn't mind.
Why didn't you just do this, man?
Dude, his face is literally 1v9-ing while he's running it down with his actual hero.
Look, Dante's is fine, he's expanding.
They've got to find it, they're chasing that little guy.
Moitro teams are doing a great job here. He's killed a lot of the towers.
I'm going to hide in this little town.
Statue is pumping away some healing here.
Dante is scrappy to stay alive this far.
He's also got a bone yard. If he managed to produce a frost worm, he would have won by the alternative rule set
that Yamato did not accept.
What are the chances he can still win? What does he have to do?
If you were a tournament orc would you give a re-game if Yamato disconnected now or would
you default it?
Yeah, I would do it because the same thing happened to me when Goozoo did to me.
I got his ass and he got a rematch.
So you would do it just to prolong the suffering but then the suffering will keep going you
will propagate the cycle sun glitters.
Yes, I want them to go through what I went through.
Wow.
That's very honest of you.
A lot of people are like that, not everyone admits it.
And that's what?
If you suffered unfairly at the hands of some incident,
but you want other people to hurt like you do,
instead of just, you know.
Oh, that's like normal in League, yeah.
League?
Yeah.
Yeah, like I always love seeing my enemies suffer.
BGs, SMD, Dante's.
I didn't know it was what SMD West said to me, damn.
Oh!
I gather it's not solid micro, Dante's.
I needed to say something really fast, so I was thinking some thriller acronym that
isn't KY and then, you know, so I was like, what's another one?
I'll just say SMD.
Now it's the lobby again for them.
Next map is gonna be, not sure if it matters, Adantes can pick the map, it's gonna be Hammerful
or Tite Hunters.
Adantes lost the first map.
I felt kind of sad watching that.
Why?
It felt like he was just getting crushed.
He was. He was.
Yeah.
Should have trained more.
He should have preferred this tournament over Jinxie's League of Legends 1 million dollar invitation.
Ah, I did see some clips of him though and Jinxie those were funny.
Yeah, I made him think he was gonna win a million dollars.
I'm just kidding.
No.
Are you gonna stream it again in Discord?
Yeah.
I don't know if I'll DC.
Maybe I messed them up or I messed Dante's up by pausing the game, you know, you want to do that again
He's gonna come in and blame you for sure. Yeah, I can only do it after the game begins
Okay, I'll keep an eye out. I don't want to accidentally pause the game again. That was awkward. That's okay
See blue
Gonna put you on red
He wants purple, you're not gonna get it host on me. Okay ready
You're lucky I sand-backed game one to make things interesting.
I have a feeling that Yamato wants nothing to do with this kind of trash talk.
He's old business here.
Yeah, he just ignores him.
He's like, chop, chop, make the game start, don't want to talk to this guy anymore.
I think Yamato has seen quite enough of this kind of stuff in League.
Now he's in a gentleman's game where literally everyone is a gentleman in Warcraft 3, nobody BMs here.
I love it when people BM personally for viewing pleasure.
I think they're all pretty cool.
They're pretty nice in the rank queues, they're just like, good luck, have fun.
We're ready, let's jump in.
Hammerfall, coming up.
And there's the share screen.
Dante speaks Hammerfall over Tite Hunters, so he's got good memories here.
Hammerfall's the best!
You did so well here.
That's my favorite.
You did so well.
This is the one you practiced the most.
It kind of shows what you did.
Wait, is this the one you want?
This one's my favorite.
And this is the one we did the most build order practice against AI.
So imagine if you had that volume on every map, then you would have never made any mistakes.
You made me favorite this map.
If it wasn't for you, I would never win these maps.
Do you have everyone on the right side? Yes.
You know what I want to see from Yamato? I want him to flex on him, not to the cheese strat, like the early aggression.
I want him to, like, be a man.
Let him have a chance.
No, it doesn't.
He has a chance.
You wanted to do the equivalent of tea bagging in a shooting.
Yeah.
Maybe he can place a town hall in his city.
Wait, that's actually possible.
I would need an ultimate.
I like that.
I wanted to do that, but I couldn't win.
It's OK.
I've done it before.
You can do it.
You summon all your peasants into a militia.
By the way, Yamato Kanan is pooling a Mary, maybe.
OK, there we go.
No, he.
You had four workers in the fight.
What?
You momentarily had four workers in his mind, but he fixed it.
Don't be mad.
Mary, are you mad?
Oh, no, I'm not. Sorry.
I'm kind of out of it.
Sorry, I'm like, trying to focus.
Or she's covering her madness now.
I was just like, what did you say?
Alright, all good, all good, well, moving on.
So, so good, it's just one thing you can do.
You can take all your peasants and power build the town hall in the enemy base and then you
summon Melissa at home and then you town portal into the town hall and you try to kill someone
with like 40 Melissa.
I think when I asked you for cheese strategies last year, you sent me a video of that.
I chose not to do that. I chose the double barric.
Really? No, there's no way. Why would I teach you that?
Oh my god. He's still against with the jungle camping.
Jax is lying. I would never teach her like proxy town hall shenanigans. Come on.
I think she saw that on YouTube herself.
Maybe.
That's crazy.
protection plus five Dante's is solo creeping it's a ring of protection as
well yeah but again I'm just gonna go for an early creep but not an early
expansion yet
oh did Yamato do the thing where he turns his peons into workers like for a
little while yeah yeah he sent them back yeah yeah just do I was wondering
like how does he have such a big army already I did that too but I always thought
it's pretty hard to control it in the right way but as soon as you fuck it up.
One of the harder parts for sure about human, some people think human is more difficult because of it
because of so many small moving units. Once you get past that skill hurdle though, it becomes pretty streamlined
because they add so much power to your early creeping and it gets easier at tier 2 when you have priests
and you can start healing for free. Anifusia, in the Only Fangs Invitational, she was pretty comfortable with the rifle priest army
and almost beat Soda Popping.
Ended up throwing the game a little bit as Soda made a comeback.
Also on this map I believe.
Soda was so funny in the tournament.
He was.
I think he was just smoking weed the whole time.
I believe so too.
Dude, he was so out of it.
Like he accepted the invite to join the tournament.
And then when I...
When everyone started practicing like one or two weeks in advance,
He's like, we have to practice for this? Wait, I didn't know. But then he honorably
saw it through anyway. But like he legitimately didn't know the concept of like two weeks of practice.
Yeah. I get that. And Tyler was so locked in. He was so locked in.
Yeah. And the, oh my. Did you know, did you know some glitters what you were getting into
when you accepted the invitation, like the kind of practice that people would be putting in?
not. No, no, no. Like, I knew it was going to be difficult because I never played a game
like this before. But I thought, okay, it's streamers, you know, they're not going to
practice so much. And then I saw everyone was practicing so hard. I was like, I'm cool.
I'm cool. Like, like my only chance was to find somebody who's worse than me, but I couldn't
find a new one. You should have joined this tourney, like, you know, and me and Tante.
Mary, do you feel like I set correct expectations for what you could expect in this tourney?
I mean, you weren't, you weren't lying when you said you need to put in a lot of hours.
I did say that, yeah?
Yeah, you weren't lying, for sure.
But did you believe it? Or did you know the kind of time others people would put in?
I kind of believed it, but also I'm kind of a gamer.
So, you know, I thought like I'd be fine.
Maybe if I had three more days, I would have like, you know, swept this whole tournament,
but it's it's OK. It is what it is, you know?
That's what it is.
Did you also have nightmares?
Nightmares about Warcraft?
Nightmares? Oh, I definitely counted thorns in my sleeve.
That's for sure. I was like, I need one torn, two torn.
Like in the Torren totems, it was kind of funny, like I'm not kidding, I actually flat counted Torrens in my sleep.
Like it's a cheat.
The same thing, like the bitch water went, yeah.
I poured my head, I hollished it, and when the tournament was over, I felt like I gave my life back.
I felt that way after all the Warcraft.
Oh my god.
Wait, you stopped playing after the tournament?
Yeah, I'm in star like I
Also, you even do the campaign I was gonna do the campaign
I was I was thinking that too and I thought I'd go back and try and try to get higher
You know for because my ego was boosted a little bit. I was I was so bad. I was so bad
I was like, okay. I'm going back, but then oh
Oh
Now that I see like you and done to spare I was like, okay, maybe and I wish I was in this one
Maybe I would have had a chance
You guys are better than me so goodness was suggesting there should be a tournament with eight of you guys
Yeah, I was thinking like the bottom eight frags like in a tournament together
like soda pop and like high or something I don't know like you know yeah maybe put
Tyler one in there to make him feel good because he's lost every tournament
like some ego boost seven Mary maybe Dante's and Sungladers and Tyler one like
this is your shot but look if he loses that one oh yeah if he lose that one he
probably will on this whole warcraft 3 and never come back no I think he's
gonna eat his computer out of the room actually yeah like if he lost it any of
us losers that would be so embarrassing. I don't want to be responsible for that.
If you could pick again Mary would you pick a walk again or another thingy? I like being aggressive
and League I made assassins so you have to be aggressive. I've always done early game stuff
but mid-late game I struggle with because I don't have the attention span for it. That's why
I was like kind of struggling with the build in Tantes.
I learned last night because it requires long periods of not messing up my P.O.
It's like one thing went wrong and my whole plan was ruined.
I could not do like I should have just done Tower Rush again.
Yeah.
Some games are so long.
I also feel like it gets so much harder once you have to get a second gold mine.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
No.
Yeah, I like the rush too.
Oh look, look at Yamato, his omega army.
Here we go.
It's a big army, he's going to make a workshop again, start the mortar siege.
Oh my god, Yamato.
It's great!
It's great again!
It's a bomb!
Oh my god.
Dante has finally remade the slaughterhouse that was cancelled by the early Archimage
for Ray in the back of Dante's base.
Three acolytes, several ghouls in the slaughter fell by the wayside.
has a gold mine building but without any statues as of yet it's gonna be hard for him to hold.
Yamato once again leveraging double level 3 heroes and an early push with rifles and priests
hitting before Dante's can have his long game scenario where he gets the 80 population.
Absolutely the right thing to do. It's gonna make more tires to seat down the base.
Would you call Yamato not honorable for this?
It's nothing more honorable than this.
No, I think this is one of the most ethically accepted games I've ever played.
Yeah, I was watching a match earlier and I forgot which cast I said it, but somebody said something was cringe.
I think it was funny.
I think this is cringe. It's way better than datis. It should have given the illusion of a chance.
He's playing with them a little bit more.
Look at him running again like a chicken.
This definitely was how you can play to disrespect someone kind of intentionally in a sandbaggy
way.
You can do that in tournaments, but it looks like Yamato is all business and is just deciding
to finish it.
And the best way that he knows how, with the Rifle Priest Army and Mortar teams, is looking
clean.
He doesn't want to waste any more breath on Dante's than he needs to.
role the the night is still long he wants to get his practice games in for
tomorrow we're at almost 10 p.m. Amsterdam time right here from where
we're casting this and that means he still has about six hours of practice
to do tonight
and you're gonna get them in voice again after this I'll be here no no no I
don't think I don't think it was a good I don't think they're good match
personality wise to be in the same chat again so no. I thought that was a great match.
I love that. I could take Yamato solo, I could take Dante solo, but it was enough to go together
again. I could tell that Yamato didn't want to waste any time on that conversation. Dante's
is being pushed to his limits. Dark Ranger goes down, Yamato gets what he wants. A quick early
victory nice GG GG bro Gigi
just at the beginning you know when Yamato went into the base tucked around a
little bit but then he recovered I'm glad Yamato bullied my bully justice has
been served and bigger than Dante's bullied you. It's a much bigger margin between the two of them.
That's true. It was way closer between you guys.
This means that the upper bracket finals, which are best of five, are going to be between Simply
and Yamato Canon. Yamato Canon is going to be joining us for a little post game interview where
where we can get some of his thoughts
about the tournament in general,
because we haven't really talked yet.
Yamato, what's up?
What up?
Sorry to get in here.
Like I just wanted to make peace with Dante's
if he's around, you know.
Before the game, all good.
After the game, I want to commend him
on the first one, Strat.
I was a sole A-B-M business fair play, respect to him.
He was busy with League of Legends stuff
and he made the most out of it in the match, you know?
So respect to Dante's, you know?
That's all I wanted to say.
Okay, I'm on the top of the screen.
And there he is.
Yo, Gigi's Yamato.
Gigi's, man.
I was just, I was giving you praises, bro.
I thought the first one was straight, the sole eight man.
You were very respectful to him.
The coaching sessions were very good.
I think that you did a lot with the limited time
that you put in, because I know you had a lot of
League of Legends tournaments going on as well.
At the same time, you kept busy and fair play, man, respect.
No, I appreciate it.
You shed my mouth.
So now, Yamato, before you go, I need to ask you,
how do I make Tonka tea my little bitch tomorrow?
Tonka tea, oh damn.
Well, I think you should just stick to what you do,
you know, stick to what you do.
I like that you're mixing it up, you know,
you're throwing in some abominations in there,
some spiders, I feel like you're developing real time.
I don't wanna put a stop to that.
But I think, you know, you know Tyler one, you know how he is.
how he is. Get on his nerves. Do what you do best.
You're like, bro,
bro, there was a competition to like be like, I'm not saying
you're always annoying. I'm saying if you want to be
intentionally annoying, that is like a very good skill set the
job of yours. So I researched before the game how to mute
people.
I was I was respectful, you know, I was respectful.
I'm so nervous.
I'm just playing the game.
Good luck in the finals and I'll see you soon for the grand finals tomorrow, okay?
Yes, sir.
Later.
Thank you.
By the way, are you leaving? Are you going to go right back to practice or do you want to co-cast something with me?
I can cast for sure.
Yeah, go cast and take my spot.
Okay, I'm doing this.
Did you do temp escape? Did you do temp escape?
Sorry I'm dwelling the stream. I'm very sorry Grubby.
No, no, no, no, it's nice to have another hoax. Take some load off.
Did you click temp escape?
Yeah, it clears, but I'm dream-sive.
Yeah.
Oh, no, what are you doing?
That's crazy.
I'm going to read it to you guys a little bit, Grubby.
Are you getting ready?
What's that? Yeah, I gotta prepare for my match. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Good luck, Mary. You're fine. Bye
What did you say son?
Yeah, we read it a little bit together in TBC, you know, oh
She almost got kidnapped I remember 4 a.m. Dornock
It's kind of crazy
I didn't know you played for the Warcraft.
You really destroyed him.
Oh yeah, I'm an addict.
I get addicted to anything.
I throw it in my way. It's a disaster.
It's why I stay home.
There's dangers outside.
Hi.
So we're casting Murray Mayby versus Pox here?
Yes.
maybe Pox is coming up. I'm done with any combo. I've got you. You're welcome to stay
if you like.
You can stay a little bit shut a little bit.
Yeah, you want to do another series or?
Yeah, I have some questions for Yamato.
Yeah, okay. Can you guys entertain people and I can quickly eat something?
Yeah, we got you.
So, Yamato, why are you so good at Warcraft? Did you play this kind of game before?
I'm honestly I'm not that good like you should hear what my coach tells me like my coach
He gives me minus points for every decision I make like I have a long way to go
Good like I was asking grabby. Okay, what I've done this chances to win against you. It was like a 0%
so yeah, you're doing super good and
Basically, no mistakes. I saw nothing
You never played a game like this before?
I played the Warcraft 3 when I was very small, so I was like maybe 7, 8 years old.
Or something, your blood.
So I played a little bit because my brother was a big Warcraft 3 player.
I knew of Grubby always, I was always a big fan of Grubby.
And then also, when I took the challenge, I said, I'm going to try it for my life because
I shared this with Grubby too, but today is the anniversary of mine.
And for 10 year anniversary and my fiance is the go because she allowed me to delay it.
She knows how much is meant to me and next weekend and next week I'm going to because
I have neglected every aspect of my life.
Like I played 15 hours of walk around every day.
Yeah, I was like, no way you play 15 hours of this game.
So I played in this tournament last year, right?
I play three games.
I lose, lose, lose my mentors down.
I had nightmares about this game.
How did you, how did you like push through?
Did you ever have like the feel
like you do have nightmares?
Not nightmares, I just started having like visions, you know?
Like when I close my eyes, I would see water elementals.
I would see creep routes.
I would see myself getting like ganked by wardens
and demon hunters and death knights, you know, like,
And in my mind, I'm micro-ing, you know, in my brain.
So it's like, every time I went to sleep,
I had to be so tired that I would collapse, you know?
Otherwise, it would just be permanently like going.
So not really nightmares.
Like, I don't know, I enjoy being addicted like that.
Yeah, I was watching Walker, like the cast earlier,
in preparation of me casting the earlier matches today,
and I got visions back from the past, like from last,
Yeah, like a vision.
What did you see?
I saw, I was putting all my, um,
the ons into the gold mine.
Then I was building a barrack.
Then I was building, um, uh, Jaina and at two minutes
I'm sending them to the creeps.
I'm pulling back, um, uh, one foot man.
So wouldn't die.
I was sending it back.
It was insane.
And then, yeah, I was, I was thinking
about my double barrack strut.
Cause one day before the tournament, I asked,
There's no way I'm winning with my strength that I have because I had griffins
Gaby taught me how to play griffins. Yeah, and then I was very late in the game
Yeah, I was like no way Gaby you need to give me something. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah, I had some magic
It was a power rifle. What was the magic?
The magic was a double barrack and then rush rush them and you know what happened to me
I don't know this person. Sorry. I'm out of the loop. Sorry. Goose will don't know this suspect. I'm infamous infamous while screamer really. Okay. When he noticed he was losing in the tournament. He disconnected.
Really?
No way.
So he did us himself.
That's crazy.
And he later admitted that he did it on purpose, right?
Like that's crazy.
He said it's the only way he could beat you.
You know, I actually, my mind was running because I was lagging a lot during this game.
You know what I was like?
What is happening?
Yeah, I was lagging a lot.
I was freeze lagging like when I'm creeping against my foot man. Yeah. Yeah. And the second game I was lagging super much.
Damn.
Wait, so I'm paying now. Sorry.
The I think this is the final series of the day. Yeah. Mary may be against Pax or against night off.
I've not watched Pax pay. Can you tell me something about him?
He only plays Warden when it's not Night of Mirror.
It's always Warden solo and he tries to rush to level 6.
How good is he from 1 to 10?
From 1 to 8, I think he's 2 or 3.
Like 2nd or 3rd out of the 8s we have here.
Yamato, Hera and Pox are probably the top 3 with Tyler 4, but Tyler impressed on the
Clan War Day.
Today he had really good and bad moments. So it really is anyone's game. I think
had an incredibly good game earlier today. His game one against Yamato Canon. And then Yamato
Canon just turned it up to 11 in the second and third game going for a different build. And I'd
been wanting to ask you, Yamato, is that Death Note approved or was that a special Yamato Canon?
No, it's not because like tanks is the best build in the world. And right. But the execution,
I don't have the APM for the APM for the execution like I need to be like really good with staffs. I need to time my pushes
I I'm too shit to to do the tank strat
Because I we reviewed the game right after
that's not insisted and
Yeah, I got like minus 22 in the tank game
My castle was late all that jazz, but then I figured okay
I've only played the tank strat like three games because I didn't run into a lot of wardens
So I just figured okay. I'm just gonna do my anti-knight of strat
Because I noticed that how his bears were always like low produced his macro wasn't clean
And I figured like if I do my 80 pop push that I will have such a bigger army
And I just brought scrolls to deny his fan of knives and I simplified really but
Yeah
So that was that was the angle because this 8080 pop army I played maybe 100 games
So yeah, but it looked clean man
You got enough spellbreakers in there the magic immune tanks are one way to side step the warning damage
But this time you did it with the spellbreakers pretty good upkeep management got yourself to 80 food and very importantly
He'll scroll usage always to he'll scroll with the TP if you had no he'll scrolls you got out and you went back in
It was clean man. Just wanted to say compliments
I appreciate that, yeah, I made a crucial mistake in both games where I crept an additional
green and then I just never found the warden.
And then I always found the warden when she dinged three.
It was after.
It was so bad.
Yeah, there was one moment.
It was one moment I think it was on Echo Isles.
You found your way to the main place.
And then why did you go kill Whis?
Why did you go find her and sacrifice Footman?
I don't know.
I don't know, I was so entrenched in, like, theory,
but the theory didn't apply anymore
because I fucked up in the first place
because I did the green on my own
and I had perfect scout because he was doing mercenary
and I could've just walked back with the footy
and I could've kept it alive, but I didn't microwave it
and like whenever I have to do three things
at the same time, four things at the same time,
this is where I really, really like do bad shit for sure.
Yeah.
Because it's like doing one thing is easy.
Like if you if someone told me, oh, you need to get MK level three, then it's seven.
You know, I can do it.
You know, no problem.
But and someone harasses me, you lose two peasants.
And then like you miss the beat, like the blacksmith is late, the tower is late, maybe
the creed jack something happens, like, and then everything changes theory out of the
way.
Yeah, I thought you were just... Yeah.
I'm yapping. I'm yapping. Sorry, guys.
No, it's good!
That's what you're supposed to do.
Yeah, we're just talking about something not relevant.
I wonder what folks are going to do. It's going to be...
You should have seen the second half of your second game against Dante's.
It was more of a therapy session for Mary and Sunglyness
and about what I did to them by getting them into this tournament.
No casting going on whatsoever, it was just you on the warpath as the TikTok video in
the background while people were talking about something else.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, you were just dominating Johan, what can we say?
I kind of like, I don't know, I went really hard on him.
Yeah.
Because I wanted to like enact an event for Mary kind of, you know, like a clan more
homie, you know.
He did say it felt good watching you fuck him up like that.
Nice.
So you succeeded.
Nice, nice, I'm glad.
I was wondering if I made more of it than it actually was, but I thought it was indicative
of your, let's say your laser focus on performing well as well, not to clown around with Dante
and accepting his Frost Worm strategy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I made a go from it, I said another single Frost Worm will touch
the map and...
But you didn't accept his special little deal.
I thought, this is because of how much you care about the story.
Because, because I thought maybe what he could do is he makes like five towers, graveyard, slaughterhouse,
and then he just like, he spreads his acolytes in random directions, you know, and just pops the item and builds a boneyard in Zimbabwe, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's no good. You didn't accept. Okay, the game, the game.
Pox is starting with Warden first once again, he's doing some Ancient of War creeping, he's going to get every single creep, get level 1.9.
He's got 3 Moonwell opening, which is a safe variant, safer than a double Moonwell break next tech speed going to tier 2.
And he's also making a second Ancient of War already in order to creep the expansion.
You know, if you had asked me, is this too close, will it wake up the creeps? I would say yes, but Pox knows better once again.
and Mary maybe on the other side is doing some blade master mirror image
creeping nice tech time and is almost going to get level two but there is the
warden didn't pick any skill point yet so he could still go for shadow strike or
find of knives which he's following him but they're not fighting this much of
it just better for blade master no yeah as you committed image of shadow strike
and yeah like all humans are so bulky no look at that grunt yes a woman has been
use since the beginning of time against Orc. It has always been a pocket build, it's been
a build that some specialists like to use. It has even won some games, but it's never
been favored. It's always been better for the Orc and you need to be a specialist of
the matchup in order to be able to make that even work. And I would say Pox falls in that
box, you can definitely make it work. But it's not because it's overpowered, it's in
fact underpowered.
Grimmy, what is he doing, running in and running away? Why?
What Pox is doing here is he's identified that there's a mirror image opening by Blade
Master, which is less aggressive and actually wants to do more creeping.
It wants to be left alone.
And so by staying nearby and not giving Mary maybe any breathing space to creep, he was
preventing her from creeping with several units while he's committing no units to that
cause whatsoever.
He also needed to buy time to make more archers from his second ancient of war.
Now he's ready to farm before he wasn't.
So he chose to make his own time waste, her time waste as well.
Yeah, because that pissed me off.
I would have been really mad in her position because she was like chasing him and trying
to like damage him and never whacked him and suddenly left the stop.
Oh my God.
Personally, I'm having a little bit of rubber banding lag spiking.
I'm assuming it's not the problem for both of them since both of them are from the server
continent where the server is.
It's just an observer thing that we have and I don't think the players are gonna be having any lag here
Did he just blink the stone the boulder bro? I think I don't think he did because he didn't get any skill points yet
We just missed the stuff. You can do it though. You can but he literally hasn't picked a skill point
And it's not because of he's like Dante's who didn't do it by accident in the forum for
he's deliberately withholding because
You can actually go for double fan of knives if you don't need to use blink or shadow strike early
but if you get pressured early you want to have blink or shadow strike so that's why he's withholding
I hope Pox doesn't like go back and listen to this but I was so worried that he's going to
like send wisps into my base if I close it and that he just teleport on it like but he just
never did this well he doesn't need to I was so scared about this he's warden that's like a demon
on our emulation trick.
But it could be so quick and active, imagine if the wispy with TP on it right now would
just be crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a power move against humans for sure.
By the way, worst possible items for Mary, maybe.
It's a full defensive lineup, usually Blade wants to get some damage.
She saved her grunts, but it's going to be running into the warden.
Why do I feel like this game is, there's like some fast forward action going on, looks weird
sometimes.
He's in her base, killing the fuckers, the workers.
Does she notice?
I don't think she noticed.
How do you notice it?
You just see it on the map, right?
Like the red dot.
Well, there'll be like, uh, our base is on the attack.
And you can see something on the mini map.
So that was so good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what the hell?
Yeah, that was crazy, bro.
What the hell?
That's a real lot.
Dude! I'm a vacus and dance!
There's no way!
Oh, she's coming though.
She has only four workers left and the two that are making, so six.
She used to have 12, she lost six workers.
And Mary said like earlier, when people are fucking with me in the early game,
I'm going basically into a shock state.
And she forgets more.
Well she noticed it this time.
So this is a West Nightmare.
That was rough.
I wanted to run by an idea I had.
I was contemplating stealing the Dark Ranger and then getting it to six, charm an acolyte
and build a bony out.
When you say stealing the Dark Ranger, in what capacity do you mean that?
So that he can't get it.
Let's go to the tavern.
Can you say steel? Do you mean strain or to prevent him from getting it as well?
There's only one of each copy of Hero, right? You can't have Mirror Heroes.
No, you can. You can.
Oh shit, okay.
I just wanted to check. You could have taken it. You could have enacted those evil plans for sure, but he would have still had his.
No, it is like that in League and Dota.
In the Dark Ranger meta, at a mirror, do you just go silence?
Is it better than rain?
Almost nobody goes Dark Ranger first.
This is like a special meme build that became popular a while ago when Dark Ranger got buffed,
but then she got nerfed and now very few people still do it.
But some people do and it just so happens that one of the coaches that Dante's had,
the same one Mary maybe had, is a fan of Dark Ranger first and he gave him a build that
works for his skillset.
He's coming again.
He wants to kill her again, the workers.
But she's there, right, to protect.
She is there to protect.
She has gone to tier three.
She retrained a number of peons.
She's getting shamans and spitted walkers.
Oh, wait, no, he's throwing him.
Oh my god, she's crazy.
It's trapped.
Oh, she had heat.
Oh.
Oh, no.
It was Hex, it's just dead.
Yep.
He did have greater healing potion, but he could at least interrupt, and she could interrupt
the staff of teleportation, but then with healing pot, probably Pox would still get away.
Wouldn't you say that it was pretty good for her, cause now she can do the camp, she didn't
really lose a lot, what did she...
I want that to be true more than anything, some letters, but I can't lie to you.
Oh, that was bad.
I would never lie to you I'm getting some ptsd watching the water and jump around them below four and a half
I'm getting stressed out the first game you had oh my god did you do a post-morten yet with death note for that game?
It was instantly after like I was like, yo, I just want to focus on the next game. It's like no
Well fresh
Right now, you know, what the fuck is that way is he? Oh my god, he chose a new a new choice. That's crazy
Meantime fighters going on pox is getting closer and closer to level five. That's one had to kill second one
Third one is level five fan of knives level three
so much damage
Is he just playing like he's like super aggressive like he doesn't leave alone?
Yeah, this is his style but normally he leaves his units at home for 25 minutes but now he
brought them.
I feel like he's showing Mary maybe the respect of his full army.
Most people he's just sandpagging them with a single hero.
Like I feel like if I'm putting myself into Mary maybe I can't breathe.
Yeah.
leaves the lawn. I'm in the shock state currently and I can leave my workers alone. I have almost
no gold. Yeah, 100%. It's very impressive. Box played this very cleanly. He did a lot
of cool shit. He even has an expansion. He was creeping while he was harassing her.
It's a high octane gameplay that Mary made. It was never going to be having much of a
chance against. I feel like Mary maybe needs a motivation speech from a coach. I hope she
as a coach nearby. Oh, I thought you were going to do it. Oh, no, I can't do that. I think you should. I think you should come on. Come on.
I don't know what to say. Like, I was thinking just raw tips or something. I have no tips. What about mindset tips?
Yeah, also don't have any like if you had one shot, one opportunity, that kind of stuff. No, all good. Maybe next time. Maybe the next
invitational. Yeah, next time. If anything, this just goes to show the kind of furious
assault that Yamato Kanan had to resist. You saw what Parkes did there when he gets his
way. Yeah, that's just not permissible. Bram is excited if potential rematches because
there's so many minor adjustments you can do that changes everything is. Ah, what a
Rush Grubby man, this is the last three weeks have been fucking so fun.
That's it.
I'm going to go back to streaming League next week.
Like I am not excited.
You're not excited.
No, you could keep playing walk around.
Why not?
Maybe I make a mission.
I'm waiting for I would just wait for Grubby to DM me.
You know, what is the evolution?
You know, there will be a competition.
You want to have a goal and then leave you have a goal because you still got your stuff going there and even though this has been a fun
adventure
You wouldn't just grind ladder without a goal
Maybe like I would do like oh, I'm gonna get 2k rated or something but
That's a good way of never getting invited to a grubby imitation again, so I
I was, I was harassing the other, not harassing, but I was talking to the other contestant
from other games, like, yo, Pox, you should do like a PoE challenge, and it's like, okay,
you should invite streamers and do something, you know, I was talking to her, I was like,
yo, you should do the HM Empire storm, come on, man, let me, I need something to strive
for.
It's so much more fun when there's like a strong goal like that as well, I do agree.
I did pick up League without any goal, there was no invitation, I did the same for AW2 but
yeah I wish people would do more stuff like this, I would also be happy to join more.
Yeah, so fun.
Who would be sick for League?
I would be sick.
How would you piece it together in League, what would be the format?
I don't know, you have more experience probably witnessing it than either one of us, like
how are all those invitations ran?
I know Tyler does some solo queue stuff, like some solo,
like Hero V Hero, A-Ram, like 1v1,
who gets to kill the other?
That's not as deep.
I like the full deep peak experience.
I have schools.
You just do like four teams of five.
They all get a coach.
With practice?
And then one week of practice.
One week of like two weeks of practice prep.
You do a little, what's it called?
Coordinated riots.
Everyone gets level 30 accounts.
do like five man cues on the ladder. I like it. Oh, okay. So you want to avoid like the solo queue
experience a little bit as well? Yeah, just throw everyone into a team environment. See, see what
can you imagine the drama though between five streamers, they're like, oh, you're not practicing
enough. You are jungler. You're fucking stuck. But then it's not the jungler's fault. I can already
Imagine it like why are you going to bed bitch time to practice talking like even talk about me makes me sad like I
Don't go back
It feels it feels like I'm a summer camp like you know, I don't want to go home
Oh my god, oh no
That's just I think that's too much
I always hear that, but when I play it, I don't have that baggage, of course,
because I mute all my teammates and I'm starting from below,
so there's none of those stresses that have been piling up over the years.
But I totally know what you mean, because I burned out of Dota 2 at some point,
because of the experience of solo queue.
I think solo queue is amazing in what it offers, like a random ball of chaos to you,
you never know what you're going to get.
But there's some stressors, let's say.
Well, you were so good at League, like your laning was so clean.
And you're like one of the most coachable people that I've ever, like, interacted with
in my long lifetime of working with maybe 500 different players or something.
Right, Pakatchel Yamato.
There's very few people that could distill Death Note's coaching, which is involved,
caring, no bullshit, and accurate.
It is like he's telling the truth, but most people have their defensive heckles raised,
unable to absorb the information within because it wasn't packaged in a compliment sandwich.
I spoke to several people that have just so much respect for how you were able to put
up with that and even distill information from it.
I have to say it all came from just a position of gratitude.
Like he's just lending his time.
So if I wasted that time, that would be horrible to me.
That's beautiful.
Leon, Haluah, you, and Death Note.
You guys invested so much time into helping me.
It's like, I feel like that gave me more pressure
than anything else, if I'm going to be honest.
I've never felt that.
This is it.
That's beautiful.
What's been fun?
Holy.
I tried to catch him too, he shows me his boss, I was like, ah, look here, Arcane Tower is late,
he's like, no, this was with intention, I see the position of Warden, it takes 32 seconds to make,
I can make when he's coming, I was like, oh, okay, fuck off, there.
I see Footman late, 0.5, he's like, no, I want to do peasant first, I'm sorry.
Well, it's impossible.
It's honestly been one of the cool emergent storylines.
You know, I didn't always see eye-to-eye on Death Note,
but I really appreciated how he oversaw the coaching
with you, the timed investment he put in,
and the seriousness with which he took it.
So that was a big plus in my books.
I don't know, the humans came together,
like the human players.
They all wanted to back me up, but I couldn't even show it up.
It's like the campaign storyline with Sir Garethos, Lord Garethos.
We humans need to stick together against these pointy-haired freaks.
I don't remember, like, blatant racism.
It was there, right? Old President didn't fuck around.
MOLLY MOLLY
Humanity is in peril
Nice grand save by Mary maybe
Unfortunately a little premonition
Probably it's gonna get taken down by the warden in about 2 minutes from now
When warden comes in with the fan of Nyser
Oh shit the game is on
I'm so sorry
Wait I'm not sharing the screen
No I did not start it I'm just talking about random stuff
I'm so sorry
I didn't wanna do anything.
It was so cute.
Yeah, yeah.
This morning was so much fun.
It was so sweet.
Thank you, guys.
I don't want to disrespect the game.
I'm so sorry.
I had no sense the game was on.
That's also on me.
But I'm jogging many balls over here.
So it's tough to sometimes remember if people don't remind me.
You see me joining lobby always like five minutes late that.
Yeah, dude.
I gave you guys a ride.
You were always the last.
You were just like, thinking about your next build, yeah?
Yeah, I was like, opening maps and like, joining custom games and...
I figured like, my teammates would tell me. That was the most confusing part.
Like, I'm out of joining the lobby.
Because they knew what I was doing.
Well, maybe they were happy with it.
They wanted you to get that little bit of extra information.
So, what is something that Mary could do differently this game?
But she doesn't get the crush.
Next first?
I don't know how much experience she has with Raiders, I believe literally zero.
The two major counters to Warden are, you know, you're hitting her, but you have to
hex and snare her.
That's like Stormbolt for Mountain King.
And she has never made a Raider in her life, I think, and she opens with Hugh Life.
So a lot of it is down to when Pox decides to get aggressive, hex first and snare, target
firing, and she's giving herself a better chance already.
She also has a full wall off right now, so she's got one iconic hit until stuck again.
Yeah, cuz like I've never played ox before but you guys always said okay ox is also very aggressive
aggressive. So she should be able to deal with the aggression right? Well you know it depends a
little bit about skill and also the way that she's playing she's actually playing a little bit like
like a night elf like she's creeping up her first hero getting a second getting some tech units out
and then scaling into the late so the way that Tyler's playing Tyler's playing
like a farce or player non-stop aggression non-stop contact whereas the
way that she's playing she's playing scaling right instead of tempo so there
are two ways to play blade mirror image wants to scale
she's doing it somebody told her maybe no wait that's disrespectful why should
she only do anything that anyone told her like do I only believe in mans
explaining 100% now. That's unfair.
Well, Mary maybe figured out that she needs Raiders and it's there.
Yeah, that's good. That's good.
I almost made a faux pas there.
Tell me faux pas. Is that French?
Yeah, yeah, like not done. Like I almost made a little snafu
and said something disrespectful.
What? What are you learning? A lot of shit.
Like a Fetnapian.
What?
a full wall off and Warden has a free ticket in with blink how is she gonna get
in okay I have a scary premonition she's gonna TP into the vent and if she
can't get out of her own base I hope this is gonna happen
look at the aoe! so annoying oh no
he didn't need to leave you with that no no it's too far but if you can cancel
right with the web yes yeah okay you're technically the way that this could go
like if if the wall base wasn't walled off and I controlled this army that
warden is dead on my screen with how he played it but he's abusing her new
iness which is totally legit and he saw it's a full wall off he wouldn't have
taken that risk if it was not a full wall off he knew that it can be in the
back of the base he knows how the buildings work yeah he's playing so
Well, like he just goes in knows how much to take then he's baiting her to come back and then he just teleports out
Yep, and here's his full attack. He's actually using his bears aggressively against Mary. Maybe I am a tool
This is the first time I see him move out his best look at the warden and the army on the same screen
the new
He's already back. I thought he's like allergic to fur or something
No, he avoided his bells with the water.
She teleported!
Three units are stuck in the back.
You suck!
No much! Oh no!
That's fucked up, son, there it is.
Oh god.
The cocaine bells.
No, I can't breathe.
Oh man. Oh god.
She uses the heal plus.
Grabbing this is 10 minutes, it was the same last game, in 10 minutes he just destroys
her base.
She's cooked.
That's a little earlier this time actually, he's got one more fan, she calls GG, Warden
jumps in, Pox gets the victory that makes Mary maybe our second eliminated player of
Alter of Champions.
No prize money at all for Mary maybe, she's the only one that doesn't win any prize money
because she didn't win the gun war and she didn't get top six in the 101
it's pretty sad but I wanted to make sure that there is some sadness as well
because without shadow there can be no light
I wanted to make sure there's some sadness
okay
Bro thought he was poetic but bro that was just bad
Is that crazy to say actually?
No it's good it's good we really can't even make the way we want
Yeah, and I spoke it.
We did!
Oh my god.
It's true.
True.
All right, fair enough, fair enough.
I learned.
Thank you for the reality check there, guys.
But it's true though, no?
Like this adds meaning to everything else.
This adds extra meaning to the performances of you, Vyomatokennan.
When you see an example of what can happen when you don't practice enough.
That is true, yeah.
That is true.
This will make the dance losses stink even more.
It's like salt.
That's right.
in the wounds. That's right. With that, we actually have some pretty cool lineups that
are going to be coming up. We have an upper bracket finals with two players that are guaranteed
to be in the top three already. Simply, and you, Yamato Canon. In the lower bracket, we've
got four people that are guaranteed to be in top six, with Maxim and Mary maybe eliminated
with a back-to-back defeat. Tomorrow, we're going to be having Dante's versus Tyler. That's
going to be a pretty fun one from both content and gameplay perspective and then perhaps an even
closer battle skill-wise between Hera and Pox in the lower bracket quarterfinals.
Holy, that simply match was crazy. What an upset win. I can't believe I'm facing simply like that's
Fair play to him. Especially yesterday, those matches against her were so damn close.
And I guess he just took a step back and looked at actually what went wrong and realized that the under base is broken.
And just creeped.
Do you also see the scores in the upper bracket? Simply the only one that hasn't dropped a map in this tournament.
Low key kind of impressive considering he was the fifth or sixth on the MMR.
Hello, hello Mary maybe hello pox grass box. Hello
Pox don't talk to me I
Thought we were friends
Bro, you know, you know how me and pox met we were in an MMO called arcade on Jane
And he jumped me in the forest and killed me when I didn't know he was that guy and I raided him and then we
Defended you what do you mean? I thought you jumped me didn't you jump? No, I was with you against the stream snipers
that's why we were friends. Oh, that we bonded over that. Oh, you did not expect a friend to
have you factor out what was that? Yeah, I did. And then 10 minutes instead of 30. Are all wardens
like this? And then the friendship that I would not accept that that was fucked up. I was just
trying to scale like, you know, give me a breather. This guy made sure I never like stepped out of
my home. The goal is to
distract the enemy while you kind of like build up because yeah, you're a little
whisked in that tree too. I found it and killed it. That little spy at my
mine camp, Curry, do you think I would put a mine there? You think I would put a
town hall next to that mine? I actually put a whisk at the goblin, the
I was like, I knew it, I was, I was going to expand there, but I didn't want to be to
BM.
So I did.
No, you should have.
Oh my God.
I was going to get five whists and put them up in the board.
You should have done that.
It would have been so cinema.
Can you do it in my honor then?
Like against.
I'll try.
If I'm really ahead in one game, please.
I just want one person to put a town hall, like in their town that'll make me happy in
honor of me.
man box you had some great games against him on a cannon it's my first chance to
to speak with you as well very good early game he changed up his build a little
bit you went to the lower bracket and was this depressing unexpected honestly
no so like the first game when I beat him in the first game we both fumbled
hard like both of us were like what the fuck is happening you know like there's
tanks left there's tanks right there's tanks in a zeppelin I'm like what the
hell is going on you know like I got the brewmaster and like I could tell he was
fumbling just as much as me I think for like 15 minutes I had two dryeds in an
archer just running me in a circle like I don't even know where they work
yeah watching that though okay there was so much going on his chaos and I knew
that he played this as a counter to me but the thing is is when you play 400
games with a comfortable style sometimes you just need to play the
comfortable style and that's what he did and he exploited the fact that you know
My specialty is in hero control, and my coaches even told me it doesn't matter how many AMS
hammers you block or blinks you've destroyed on the storm bull, you've got to keep up
the macro, and that's what he did instead.
He really kept up his macro, and I never really do my bear timing pushes like a DH would,
and that's one big weakness of me, because when I go back and look at the replays, especially
like the, what is the map where, I can't remember the map, the one where directly south there's
the mine, was it our last match? Not the mine, the mercenary camp.
Echo Isles?
Echo Isles, yeah. Like Echo Isles, if I had my macro on point, like I would have had two
bears when you only had like two riflemen and a footman. But you know, when I went back
in the replay and looked, I'm like, oh my god, there's so much I could have capitalized
on, but instead I just played very passive, which allowed you to do your 80 pop double
I even actually tried to contest you for the heel scroll, but I was too late when I like blinked in like an idiot right into the shop
I was trying to buy the heel scroll, but I'm gonna steal and bought it
So I bought the in bond potion like shit. I gotta get out of this. Have you played really well, man?
Your macro is very on point. That's my weakness as man. I appreciate that the wood the warden is like I have PTSD
When I was watching this game when you play against Mary maybe like it was stressing me out
So and then when she was sharing the story of how you like met an arcade
I was like he was used to warden then too and just blinking and
Like destroyed me I guess I got the wrong guy, but yeah, no he's he does that yeah
Yeah, it's fun, but it's incredibly challenging because you know, it's all good and fun
But you got to be capitalizing you know because you could just remake peasants and get a bigger army if I don't have an expo
So I got to be on top of it
And I think seeing as you kind of were more passive in that one game when I saw the workshops that
that gave me the time to kind of adapt to it.
It was just like your normal game, you know, like,
I go and hit you when you have three footmen
and then five minutes later,
you're 80 pop with like 62 Swarps
and I'm like, what is happening?
I crept so little, like I was playing so safe
because two times I made a mistake of waiting with my AM
and I just found you so late
because I'm like not sure about the ancient war paths.
Like two times I found you when you just dinged three,
which is like the worst.
The worst time.
I remember that actually you know in fact actually in the one map
I think was it the one I won you attacked me when I was weak I went with my archers and I intentionally pulled a weak creep camp
Into my base for two reasons you did one. I wanted level. Yeah, it was intentional one
I wanted level three and number two. I thought maybe it would help flank and it did both so it was perfect
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I remember that
It worked.
Yeah.
Dude, I was like, did he do that on purpose, actually pulled that creep in order to poke
at the footmen?
Yeah.
Go back and watch the replay.
You'll see the archer shoot it.
No, no, no.
I know you didn't.
I didn't know if you did it with the intent of, I mean, now you can say anything, but
I believe you.
Well, yeah.
I mean, I didn't think it would specifically purge or, and I just thought it would add
more chaos, and that's what I needed because I have like three or four archers, right?
I need to make it look like I have a bigger army with the neutrals on my side. Very cool
I felt good like I broke two ancient of wars. I don't interrupt you
No, I was so I was I felt like it like I like fucked up my castle timing my castle so late
And then I don't know
I don't have the APM to control like five things at the same time because I didn't creep and my my engines were just
They were not Thomas, you know, they were just running it down. They were knockoffs, you know, they would
And then that's all I need to do bro
Like when that Zeppelin came, I was supposed to save them
I was doing some Led Zeppelin tactics, but then I got Zeppelin in the base, you know
Like my Zeppelin
Your Zeppelin made me panic and I uprooted my fucking main base instead of uprooting the other things and I was like, oh my god
I
Do you think wins the entire tournament, that's what I want to know me
No one's gonna
Yeah, I'm afraid of three people I'm afraid of my hair a matchup because it seems everyone who's gonna face me is getting coaching by death
No, which seems to work really well
Is it death note in this competition?
Get coaching from Bethnoe too.
Oh yeah.
I'm back to do that too.
I got my coaches, but yeah.
Yeah, I'm scared of Hera, I'm scared of Simply, and I'm scared of Yamato.
Yeah, like guys, why am I even here?
I'm a fucking loser, man.
Why am I even here?
You're not muted on our Discord.
Nor do you need to be.
I was just joking that you said that in public as if you meant to not say that in public
No, I know I'm double downing. I'm like, why am I here? I'm just a loser. Like what do
I have to say to this? Like, yeah, I got my ass kicked. Like, you know, Dante's being
me. I just just like, I shamed like everyone gonna throw pebbles at me now. Like,
Mary, and it's not the last bullet today, I'll stick it shit a year later.
That's not true, that is not true, Sanjuris.
It would never stop.
It's just the beginning.
It's just the beginning of the shame.
Next year you sit here cast with Grubby and he says to somebody,
Do you shame your crew?
He will say to another loser again, the worst one, oh yeah, don't worry, I coached Mary
maybe.
Signatures. Happy to bed. But yeah, it would never stop.
That is not true.
She made a meme though.
And I'm a little offended that you reduced our interactions to this.
I made history.
Now I'm bleeding.
Can I just say something that I think people need to hear?
Your value as a person does not rely on how well you play Warcraft 3.
That is a toxic mindset to yourself. I've certainly never had it.
And I'm never depressed when I lose. So, uh, yeah, don't put yourself down there, maybe or some leaders let nobody put themselves down. I just wanted to go in and say that.
Oh, it's all fun. It's all fun.
Now you really think that it's true.
You want to do if you if you feel really bad for me, you would mod me so I can ban people in chat.
Who do you want to ban?
Um,
Type one in chat if you want to be banned.
Maybe Knoth.
He failed you as a coach.
I had like four social they all failed me there's never enough coaches how many of them are you going to coach me what does this say about you I only coached twice if you had to coaching three times I could have told you about not taking your P inside of gold I think you I think you did tell me that I just forgot
Listen
I didn't I did listen I just forgot there's there's a difference. It's like I know but then there's times I forget
That's fair. You know
But yeah, I did it line a lot when I invited you like five different straps when I invited you I told you one time
Okay, go ahead
No, I'm done
What's the next tournament, Grubby?
Bro!
Yeah, Yamada's ready!
It's another Rachel Moore mix then!
I can't do another back-to-back like I did last year.
I'm gonna hate watch.
I'm hate watching tomorrow.
Are you gonna do last year?
Damn!
I missed the back-to-back.
I think I value sleep.
Last year it was back-to-back.
The first one was so much fun.
I thought maybe I'll do tournament forever now.
And then I nearly died.
And so, I need to base myself.
How many of you guys do you think I can handle in a row, come on?
Damn, okay.
Shit, holy.
Oh, shit.
That's fucked up, man.
I'm joking, I love this.
You guys are doing so great, there's so much fun.
Oh, it's massive, but shit.
Holy shit.
What is this?
It's just fucking with you.
Honestly, I do like how rude you were, like, that really hurt my feelings.
Like, I can't take commentary like that.
Yeah, I know you're sensitive.
Oh, Jesus.
Oh my god.
No, no, no.
I've been planning on since December, but it's hard to find people because look, all of you got your mainline content.
And for some of you, it's going to be like a really good fit with your audience.
And for some, it's going to be like, what is this old game?
Like, what are you playing right now?
So like, I know it's a sacrifice for some, for others, it's a boost.
But overall, everyone is putting their lifeblood, their sweat, their time, their investment,
the stress you get out of it into this game and many people from the Warka 3
community so many people they love this kind of era where all of you are
learning the game from the ground up from scratch just know that there's so
many people that appreciate y'all's energy and investment so do I it's been
hella fun so far it's not over yet we're still gonna tour any day tomorrow but I
just want to thank all of you sincerely
Aw, thanks for inviting us.
Thanks for making this happen, bro.
Like, Walk of 3 was a distant memory.
The broad told the nostalgia back, you know?
Like, so many people have said the same.
It's like, damn, Walk of 3, I grew up in Walk of 3, you know?
And it's fun to see people picking up the game.
And if your ambition was to revive the buzz,
I think you'd succeed in Walk of 3.
Yeah, you're doing a great job reviving it, for sure.
Some of my favorite content to see,
Because at the pro level, I ruins like hella good, but it's a lot of repetition of the top meta.
It's only here we get to see bloodlust at Windriders with Healing Ward.
We never see that army. Mary, maybe you have a premiere among our 23 invitational participants in the last three tournaments.
No one has ever researched bloodlust in a 101 Tony in my tournaments.
The thing I did? I learned that last night and I practiced in three games.
Well, you're the first to do it.
That's great.
You're the greatest to do it.
Oh, should I shout out the coach that told me the tech or are they going to get hate?
No, they love the shout out.
No, so cool.
Oh, it was Kevin.
He helped me last second.
He was like, if you want to beat Don Tez, you need to do this strat because he's killing
your headhunters and turning them into skeletons.
That's why you're losing.
Do all the winriders.
And I was like, oh, okay.
So I was trying to practice that strat.
if you're a map queen.
Yeah, it was close.
But it was so hard because, like you guys said,
I'm good at early game, but then mid-late game,
I kind of like get distracted and I forgot my P1.
It's like the longer the game, the more struggle
I remember to do things.
But if you just look at the combat,
the fight where you attack is base.
You're using heal words and using all your abilities,
your target firing.
Yeah, Kevin's thought made that.
Yeah, that's good.
And like use your healing and do this and do that.
I was like, okay.
If you do another tourney though, I'd be down.
I'll be better.
Okay.
I'm happy to hear that.
It was fine.
It's fun.
It's been a good experience.
Very happy to hear that.
Now I can finally continue my campaign.
I held it back so I can focus on this tournament.
Now I can finally do it.
I didn't know what happens after Arthas did nothing wrong.
I'm on Book 2.
Wait, I agree with you.
He did nothing wrong.
Every two, yeah.
You know, Sungliders have the same foray into Warcraft 3.
Her and Annie started really, really chill because they thought it's going to be like a chill streamer event.
So they started on the campaign and then there were some sweats.
They were just like starting to grind multiplayer.
And then Sungliders actually couldn't beat the campaign or win against AI.
AI and she just jumped into multiplayer she said fuck it she just put herself
subject to the greatest levels of stress
she couldn't beat the AI
but it did beat the AI once
yeah and then you beat Geronimo who had by the way
remember Geronimo had like a thousand MMR over a thousand
Sunglasses was at 300 and she nearly two on Geronimo
It was so good.
Yeah, yeah.
You're on a little clown.
Listen, hear me out.
One of your production team says, falter of champions.
Falter?
Put all the losers in that one.
What if all of us be really bad?
I would do that.
Yes.
I can do that.
I can do that for any of the tournaments.
Do all the news.
Actually, I'm going to marry you.
How bad it would it be to lose the loser tournaments?
That'd be real bad.
Oh my god, yeah, honestly, you should just uninstall if you leave.
I owe, and then the winner of the losers' championship is allowed to enter the pro championship
because they prove that they can knock out all the losers to be a pro.
Free tickets.
Yeah.
What about Heroes of the Storm?
Now, that's a game, bro.
After Revive Walk of Three, you've got to revive Heroes of the Storm somehow.
I think it'd be fun.
I've also thought about like doing something with Dota 2, but the thing that I fear, even
though I think Dota 2 is one of the best games ever made, the thing I fear is that I subject
people to the Dota 2 ladder experience, so people are going to blame me.
But here's the storm, I'm not saying there ain't any BM, but it's also much less complex
to get into.
A little bit less deep, in some ways less interesting, but much more accessible.
It's not a bad idea.
Oh, you play a lot of Heroes of the Storm.
Yeah, yeah, I used to main it.
It was my first stream game, actually.
That was your main.
I never played it.
My friends loved it, though.
It has its flaws, but it's also like a fun action game.
It's a mobile that don't take itself too seriously.
There's some depth, but it's not as sweaty as League
mechanics for fights, nor as sweaty as macro as in Dota 2.
Nothing swatter than Dota 2.
Yeah.
Well, even this game.
Even this game?
Oh, sorry.
this one maybe more than Dota 2, sorry. Yeah, this game was actually crazy. It's funny because I
just hear people like, oh, League is so hard to learn, and I'm like, have you done Warcraft 3?
Our destiny feels like so hard. It's so hard in every direction. There's just so much going on
all the time. It never ends, and then depending on the race you play, yeah, depending on the race
you play, it's not like all of your previous knowledge is thrown out, but you have to relearn
a whole new set of things.
You recently had the ray switch, Pox?
Yeah, but you know, I wasn't like I played that much more.
Compared to what I did on Night Elf, I did a day of work.
I'm sorry for taking that, and I failed the orcs.
I'm sorry, orc fan.
Yeah, I gave you free choice.
The entire one has disappointed the orcs.
Do you think the fact that there was a clan war like a team format made it experience better?
I loved it. I loved teamwork. Especially because like I lack knowledge.
So if I just follow shot calls, I can do the mechanics. You know what I mean?
Like it was so nice. I was actually surprised I had the most hero kills and like damage and stuff
because I just listened, you know? I just listened.
But when I'm on my own, I'm like lost and then I forget my peons.
I had freaking Yamato fix my pee on, like he's like fixing my stuff while I'm just going kill, like I'm Oonga Boonga and Yamato's just like in the back like oh you forgot this Mary, you forgot that, it was so nice.
I took casually managing three bases and the 2v2 when I was with Maxim, I was using his
hero item consumables like I was buying the heal scrolls in the first match when we were
much more organized I was buying out the consumes putting in them on both heroes and toggling
between the heroes to use the items because he's not good at that.
Yeah, that was funny. You just like let me and Tyler and go booga and you just took our money and would and just did all the
For my expo I said give me lumber and I simply only about 100 lovers a bro. It's gonna pay off
I need to stop by actually faster. Did you send it back? It was
I think the clan was brilliant because getting to know everybody was really nice.
I was bought in, I wanted to marry to win her matches, I was a tyler to win.
I just wanted the homies to win, I was simply to win, I was rooting for her against her.
I think going through that bonding.
This wasn't your homie, huh?
Really sorry?
The Pooks wasn't on the team.
If he was on my team, he would be homies, but he was like, I respect you.
Of course, of course, it's like, I was watching a lot of folks stream and I was watching his prep and like I respect the, the meticulousness, you know, like I really, really respect the approach as it's, you know, how much everyone's approach being so different in, in improvement.
I would never approach any game like this ever, but for some reason, I guess, because it's the competitive aspect, I would just get not nervous, I guess like nervous, so I didn't want to like, latter cute, so instead I'd watch replays like I watched way too many than what I needed.
needed, but I still got a lot of information out of it. So it kind of worked.
But I get that.
It's like when I'm peeking, yeah, I was peeking. I didn't want to queue it.
Like I was 40 or 80 or something.
You don't want to queue. Yeah.
I was almost tempted to make a gif of the queue and just have it loop after five
minutes, you know, just happen in the bottom right.
And I like a queue makes me feel like shit. I was like, man, I ain't gonna make it
out here. I didn't like the queues. It made me sad.
I had letter exactly to me.
I don't want to go play campaign.
I got demoralized when I hit.
I hit like six night elf mirrors in a row.
And I'm just like, can we not?
Like I can't even play my building.
Like everything's different.
I felt the same.
I went on a 10 game win streak
and I just checked. It was 10 orcs.
I'm like, how inflated is my elo?
I can only beat orcs.
I was like, where are the knights?
Please give me a knight.
Please give me a night of then find a plague as a night of and it's just mass hunters with with fire lord and pieces of the moon
I'm like what is this?
Yeah, it's hard to find the different experience. It's hard to find practice for someone like books, of course
Yeah, I was like I practiced against wardens yesterday like I beat with someone like an 1800 warden
But he played so different
Like so different he was he was like harassing me from level one denying the expo was like on pressure
And then the game shifted where I need to harass you and suddenly like I'm not I'm not hitting the same beats
It's like it's becomes a little bit too stiff
I have bogged down in theory and then you try to like lean back on it
But it doesn't apply any longer because you have taken down taking a different path
You know the different pokemons in this for us, you know, like I don't have the count is yeah
Yeah, what I noticed is as I was getting higher in my MMR, specifically when I was fighting humans,
they would just expo so fast. So fast. And I'm just like, what is happening? I mean, you know, I killed the main unit in my creep camp.
I'm leaving. My archer is killing the two other units when I'm making the AOW not last hit, and you are already cleared the expo.
Like humans, I'm like, what the heck is this? So I was like, all right, so maybe I have to change the strat, maybe I harass the main.
instead I go for like level three.
I don't know if you did that every time
but that was my experience with humans.
Cause what I would normally do is like do a camp or two
and then try to harass but like blindly harassing isn't good.
So then you have to start scouting and night off
early games kind of a nightmare the first five minutes.
Once you get a bear's eight click and you're good
but it's like getting to that point is a bit difficult.
No, no for sure.
Like I miss my beats completely on the harass
like Echo Isles it's so goofy cause I scouted every camp
except the Merlot camp.
I don't want to finally check the Merlux, then you got level three.
I was cooked.
Bro, you play Nidale for three days and you know every, like I can't wait when this tournament
is over.
I want to play Orc again.
I know where every AOW you go.
Every single one.
I'm going to go over there with a peon right at the start of the game and just fucking bonk
a mob on the head and just instantly cancel their AOW.
I can't wait.
All the stuff I've experienced.
And that was meta, Nido started building their ancients of war further away and trying to
learn the counter attack, of using Wisp to distract the creeps again.
It goes pretty deep and I never got too deep into it because I didn't like the peel and
pull shenanigans too much.
There's a lot to learn there.
Just wild.
It's complicated.
Now this game is goaded.
What was that on screen, Sunglitters?
You had some black bloke.
I opened paint and I was writing, I'm okay.
She's trying to free me, but I'm just vibing, I'm listening.
It's interesting, it brings me back to last year.
They were voicing for some glitters, they're like, she was really so bad, and she hates everyone.
Oh my god, it's nice to listen to you.
She's part of the boys, she's talking about Warcraft 3.
Yeah.
Grubby, I want to ask, you're analytical mind, you know, this is without bias.
This based on the games that you watched, who do you think is the favorite one?
I'm not going to make predictions. I have ideas.
It's not a prediction. Just give us what is your feeling?
Who is looking the strongest?
I'd rather not say it, because what I say influences things.
When you have a responsibility, you're the tournament org, you're the caster,
you can't just say everything you think, it influences things.
I don't want to kill Shredder and his cat.
I want it to evolve the way it's meant to evolve.
I'll DM you, I'll DM you my ass.
But Yamachi, you can say it, you can say it.
Who do you think we're, who are you afraid of the most?
Afraid of, I don't know, like everyone has a very unique skill set.
Don't say anyone, don't say everyone say one name.
One name.
No, no, no, it's like the, the, the, like the OG top four.
Like my Orc matchup is very good.
So I was ready for Tyler one because like I think, I think I'm just, I'm, I'm paper.
paper he's rock you know like I'm I just just capture him you know that this
was style I'm not afraid of but I think in terms of Pauks Warden is fucking
freaky because it's very very it's very hard and then Hera like how he beat
me like his micro is intense like in those early fights but I know I have
ideas of how to change up the game because I know his weakness too like
This guy has the slowest destroys on earth, you know, like
didn't simply beat her out twice today or something.
Yeah, to a.
He did. So what about.
No one's talking about simply no one's really not.
Others in the last four days,
he is a completely different person.
He gained like 400 MMR, or maybe it's not four days.
It's like a week.
When I first looked at him, you know, he was still learning the game.
And I just kind of put him like,
I guess like under the rug for a little bit and then I watched his game play versus Hera
and I'm just like what is happening quality?
You know I detonate on four Skellies with a wisp, mod of burn disaster, knows when to
harass, has his bear, his macro is better than mine by like a license plate.
Yeah, he knows when to be aggressive.
Sometimes he goes too much but he knows what to do, when to do and his creep routes are
on point like he knows what he's doing.
Like you know what he means?
Like his main game is?
Super Mario 64.
Mario speedrunner is speedrunning his macro. Yeah, dude, Mario speedrunner out
here killing everyone is crazy. I can't say it, but I think simply it's gonna win.
You're calling it? Yeah. Are you gonna coach him? What? He doesn't believe you.
Please coach him. I know what you're doing. You know, sometimes if you ever coach
someone in Warcraft 3, it'll be like I'm a proud grandfather. My children are growing up and they're
teaching my grandchildren. It will be so nice. Get a little bit of Warcraft 3 and teach the new
generation of Warcraft players. It's in your hands, Sunglitters! Okay, Graby, if all of us stay
streamers in 10 years, we're going to do Warcraft 3 Reunion and we're getting the next generation
of streamers to play Warcraft 3. Yes! If all of us will, we'll coach one guy. Deal. One girl, yeah.
I feel bad for whoever I coach you're going to be like a world champ by that time.
You're going to be a good safe woman, work hard, time to invent your walk of the re-legend.
Just take a picture of the observatory and face it to them and say don't do this unless you're DME.
Simply it's freaking, the moment he took off the shirt, you know, the barrel, the clothes,
it's just that turned him into a different like man altogether.
because he skips his tech timing on bear form he doesn't need to wait for t3 yes
mental it's mental I don't know I'm hyped for the matchup against simply you
know for sure but I feel comfortable playing against the Illidan Stormrage
version of night off because that I ran into maybe I have like 30 40 games of
volume like the strat I did against you is against demon hunter like I knew it
was the worst strat against Warden. I just prayed and hoped that you don't get six because
your six just slices me up, right? There's 5.9. I leave so many corpses behind as a disaster.
What I mess up on all the time is with Night Elf I always get confused on how many Wisps
I have on Lumber. So I default to maps with a laboratory. So even though the map that
we played on, okay, with Echo Isles, even though Echo Isles is a favorite map for me
because there's no laboratory I fucked up my lumber game so badly and then
because of that my bears didn't come out till like a minute 11 and I'm like okay
it's not good. I kind of knew it that there was no lab. I was like oh shit I
blocked it and I don't have the lab for the scout. Oh no yeah because the problem
is like you go to scout with your wisps and then I don't remember how many died
and then the second you go into like T2 you build two lures and then you go into
T3 and you build a shop and certain buildings consume the whistle and then all of a sudden
you lost two from scouting and then you build with three and now you're minus five and then
you can't make any whist because you're decking up.
So it's just a macro thing on my end.
I was also tied, Hunter, I watched a replay and I saw that your Mac died.
That was like watching that in the replay.
I forgot about it, but I didn't need it at the time.
So I mean, I should have kept it alive, obviously I spent a fortune on it, but yeah, on the
last hit too.
Yeah
It's a little on cooldown so
Damn you guys make me really excited to watch tomorrow look honestly
I don't understand a lot. What is going on for the most part with stay hype
Yeah, it's gonna be fun
It makes me check which one we're gonna be starting off with tomorrow
The first round is gonna be lower bracket round two
that could either be Dante's and Tyler or Hera and Pox starting at 2 p.m. I guess
it's up for grabs. You know technically now that Maxim is eliminated we could
start a little later as well even though we got back to official time. Should we do
that? I have to wake up at like 6 a.m. if I'm the first one. Yeah I don't
mind us starting a little later. I think we can start at 4 like the time on
Friday, but we have to check with everyone. We had two Europeans, right? I think. Did we have two Europeans?
Yeah, I'm European, but I'm a goblin.
Yeah, you don't, you don't play by the European hours. I couldn't sleep last night because you're
coaching with Death Note was so entertaining. I stayed up until 3.30am. And then I woke up at
2 and a half hours before my clock because the adrenaline was still coursing through my veins
Maybe the caffeine a little bit woke up started watching Knopf reviewing your 2v2 and your 4v4
So you're too entertaining. So would you go?
So no, I
Watched the cast because I wanted to hear your commentary like so I started cleaning up the whole kitchen like I was just cleaning the kitchen
I was like
scrubbing pots and pans at 5 a.m
because my cats were playing, they're on the balcony.
They do this thing where they scream at the wall.
I don't know, like they just scream at the wall.
So it was like, it was just full activity in the house
and the TV was on with the grubby cats.
Cause you know, you want to look back and see
what was spotted, the place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what I'm saying.
The Invisplay, I'm a bit of a guy like that.
The Invisplayers.
It was so good.
You know what?
I'm telling Tyler, I was like, bro, let me Invis you.
He's like, nah, man, it's too slow.
What do you mean it's too slow, come?
I was like, no man, it's gonna take a long time.
I was like, it's instant.
And then I say, go hit the main.
And then he goes to the shop, like what the fuck?
He hits the shop.
And I'm like, bro, don't hit the shop.
What are you doing?
He's like, it's free, man.
I'm like, everything is free.
I'm like, please.
A little part of me died when he starts killing the shop.
And then eventually he went for the tree.
I thought, OK, he grew some sense into him.
Then I watched Bank de Vaat with Knopf on this morning's
stream.
It's you telling him to go for the main that he skills the baby starts killing other random shit. That doesn't matter
You're like Tyler. What are you doing? Go to the other man?
It was like a horse about the front to back like a lawn mower, you know, like he's eating moon wells
I was uh, it was meant to man. It was meant to was it was good energy to win
Yeah, it was good times. I'm gonna check you guys didn't like my build on my sorks
I didn't get it.
I'm going to slow everybody.
I didn't get it.
I should have dispelled.
I didn't think about the spelling slow on all the units with the wisps.
I forgot you were the victim of this.
I would have done it.
I would have been as animated and excited about it.
It was a joke.
Hey, the first match was awesome.
I loved the first match.
Honestly, you guys clapped us so hard because you guys had scrolls.
Yes, scroll of protection. I thought you guys were dialed in you guys crept the whole center and
I thought we were fighting in a choke and I'm like pulling Tyler and like for some reason Tyler was eagling
You know, it's like our base was next to each other. He's like man. You can't build here
I'm gonna build here and then he starts building. It's like starts encroaching on my space
I'm like, let me put this entire let me help us. Let me we're supposed to work together do a wall office
And now man, he played it like a game of risk our base
that's crazy on the night outside of things I'm like so where do you want
this moon well because I don't need it you know like I'm giving I make the moon
love in his face so he can replenish his mana yeah that was brilliant that was
brilliant I saw that arcade tower I witnessed your empathy you motto Kevin
I saw that arcade tower was like three hexes further to Tyler side then would
be optimal for you I saw that no for sure but we got so clapped like I was a
Damn, Pox just Pox and Maxim, they prepared like crazy.
And I like, you guys came level three,
it was such a beautiful push, you had all the scrolls.
I'm like, damn, are we just, are we cooked?
I woke up at like 4.30 in the morning that day
to accommodate his schedule to like try a new build, basically.
Damn, damn.
Are you guys practicing at the end, Bill?
We did, literally the day of in the morning we practiced.
sick. And that was a challenging schedule thing. But everyone, you know, made it work
in some way or another. Appreciate all of that. I think I think I need to go get some
food sometime soon. It was actually really nice. I've extended post game talk about
what the tournament a little bit super cool to see your thoughts. Anyone that's eliminated
on this call not pointing out any names or pointing at anyone. But if you want to be
free guys, like, I'm happy if you want to join for more casts, make sure to put your
What do you call it? The ring in the hat? No, the hat's in the ring, all right?
The hat in the race. The hat in the race? The ring? Isn't it the hat in the ring?
Kind of how big is this ring? How the hats fit in there? Is it like throwing your hat into the
boxing ring? Yeah, yeah, I think I know what Grubby's saying. Oh, the name of that! Isn't that a glove?
The name of that! Yeah, anyways, if you want to cast, I always love to co-cast with the players
of the event as well. Just let admins know, let me know, or anything. But I'm gonna go
clean the show up and we're gonna prepare for the matches tomorrow. I'll let all of you know
that they're still playing, whether we can successfully delay the schedule. This is something
I need to check with all six players that are still in the event. If that's okay, we're gonna
start two hours later. Set of you, go ahead and take that announcement away. Set of you, we don't
know yet. So for those of you at home, it's either gonna start at Friday's start time or at today's
start time if you know when that was then it's one of those officially today's but with the
squad that we have left now that maxim the early bird from germany is no longer there it would
make more sense to move it back and we can be flexible so we'll discuss lucky you guys i'll let
you know must be nice well you have uh you can wake up even later very that's nice yeah i'm a
loser you're free you're free because you're a free loser and please send now
Very nice to meet you Mary really we I'm excited
For the hardcore
That was like video thanks for the help in the for me for us. That was fun
No, you were you were very you had this largest army by the way, you had the largest army like two games
I don't know why you produced that shit.
And you guys thought the bully got me.
And I got the Bunga.
My gyro promise wasn't kept.
I thought if I had 40 gyros, I'm going to control the air, but I didn't win.
I couldn't.
I just started Bunga.
I love the 40, but that was definitely my thing.
I love teamwork games.
Those are fun.
The 1v1s are a bit intimidating because I know I didn't put in as much as everyone else.
I regret, but I'm glad everyone else is having fun.
I'm having fun, even though I'm a loser, it was fun.
Thank you, Grubby.
Toast to that.
Wait, that kind of sounded like me.
No, not at you, Grubby.
Oh, that's great.
And I did promise you it was going to be fun,
even if there's some skill mismatch,
because I knew this could be fun.
I'm going to be playing.
I had a good time.
I want to do campaign finally, and then I'll probably
train for the next tournament.
OK, OK.
Well, that sounds very promising,
with the hope that there will be another one.
let's see how this one goes.
You know, box. Good luck tomorrow, you matter. Good luck
tomorrow. Some glitters. Thanks for joining me. Maybe thanks for
joining the tournament. Maybe we'll see you tomorrow.
GGs, everyone.
Thanks for the sub simply.
Well, the timing simply the time coming in with the sub there
at the end. Oh man, great day of games. Great day of games simply in the winter bracket against
Yamato Canon tomorrow. Dante Steyler in the lower bracket, Hera Pox in the lower bracket.
We're going to be starting with those. Also, I am going to be having some dinner, but first,
let's do clips. A couple of clips from today. Let's open that up over here. Guys, hope you
enjoyed the show. Thank you for all the support that that came in today. I appreciate that I
you know, there's never like personal shoutouts during such moments because there's so much
going on. What's this one thing here? I did one said one thing here. Okay, here we go burn. Okay,
all right, what's this? We got a couple of clips. I'll save the clips first. And then I'm going to
play them. I gifted the team. Oh, you gifted the team coalition got it. Yeah, let's take some clips.
So one thing here did well, I forgot I was expanding, okay.
I'll collect as many clips as possible first,
and then let's see what's this.
Okay.
Nice, you're all ready for this.
Good shit, good shit.
Well, what's this?
What the hell?
My stream manager.
Do you think it's right to go here better in order first clip, second, third, okay.
Oh, all done.
Don't start it.
Pause, pause.
Oops.
That's hectic.
So, RTS level multitasking I need to do here.
Headphone warning, Dante's.
W20 is usual, yo, thanks, Cup X.
Okay, guys, I can't take any more clips for a bit.
I know there's more, save them for later.
Just so I can kind of catch up with Twitch chat.
Clearly ClipQ would have been easier.
I've never used ClipQ.
I've always been afraid of ClipQ
just in case there's going to be some kind of TOS breaking content.
Krabi, do you ever plan on doing something similar to your Warcraft 3 tournament but in Starcraft 2?
No, not Starcraft 2, but other games potentially yes.
But not Starcraft 2, I have too many bad memories.
I enjoy like coming back for a little bit of games, but I don't want to get people into the game the same way.
Others, others could be possible. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's no limit to what kind of games we could do.
If, you know, obviously it's going to be different because for Warcraft 3, I can kind of coach people.
But for other games, if I'm not as an expert, I would need to find other coaches.
I would have a little bit less planning capabilities by myself.
Hots, yeah. Hots would be okay. Swarm host, yep.
Swarm host is my Tyler1 control groups.
What do you mean by memories?
Swarm host.
You're dotted to immortal?
Yeah, but it's been a while.
I've heard of these events.
You're organising are really good and addictive for us as long term viewers.
I'm glad to hear it man.
You guys deserve it.
Alright, let's watch a couple clips.
I played for two years.
stream have I played this game for one year like I play chess I'd be grubby
building the second one here making use of seven matches we played seven games
I'd be the ones yes I was not it happened again oh my god no no I don't
think it did oh no no I don't think it did it is possible it is possible he's
a grinder he's an impressive work ethic wait I forgot I was expanding
He's so zoomed out man, what the heck?
He's extremely zoomed out.
I impress myself sometimes.
Alright, that was not the best clip.
Whoever sent in that clip, you shouldn't feel bad, but you should do better.
Okay, that was very helpful.
Okay, you gave me a lot of advice, all very, very good.
really appreciate your time. Do you have like one thing that I did well? Like one thing that I did well
and be in the set? You want some compliment? No. You compliment only what you think that you did well
is you just try to you know fight the most you know scary coach the most you know
The only thing he did well is to be willing to receive the most relentless coaching from
Death Note himself. Approaching Death Note was the one good thing he ever amounted to
in his life, but everything else was deeply disappointing. Fair enough.
The best thing I did this game was take you as a coach. That's perfect.
Ah, all right, makes sense.
Wilson, thank you so much.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you, Death Note.
I love your coaching styles.
Actually a lot of fun.
I love you.
Man, this one.
Again, you know, do you think it's right decision
for you to go here?
Well, I don't know what else to do.
So I would say yes.
I would say yes.
No, it's not right decision
because you have two things, leech and decay.
I said the same thing.
Hera had no business being there.
You should be in the bottom right.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, okay, that was very helpful.
Okay, are you giving me a lot of advice?
All of it, very, very good.
I really appreciate it.
You're so annoying. I hate you man. Like you actually are so distracting.
You made me forget to put fucking peons on gold.
And so I was a broke bitch for a while. Like I hate you actually.
You're so annoying. Like your strat actually works on me.
Those are gonna be too much.
I'm just like, oh my god. I forget. I hate you.
Allison, you gotta focus on your next match. You're against the Tonkinator soon.
Okay. If you fucking win money, you better buy a new fucking headphones fucking mic.
I
May almost think he's doing it on purpose
I like fucked up my castle timing my castle. This is when sunglasses and Mary. Maybe we're talking in chat
All right, I think that's the clips that I for now
That's about the clips we have at this time. What's this disappointed Russian dad?
If I played against a knight of shore, it's relevant.
Oh my God.
That's it.
But you can tell me, you can tell me.
Like, obviously the things that I do wrong, I know, you know, I know the mistakes that
I do.
Like, um...
No, no, no, no, no, bro.
This, when you say like this, you can ask Leon to review these games, so it's okay.
No, no, no, don't be like this.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I go to other things.
Yeah.
What the hell is this?
I see.
What happened?
And so I think what happened is,
he came back five minutes later.
Deatho's playing hard to get,
but look, Deatho probably thinks like,
if you are talking back to me and you say you know what you did wrong and you're not ready to
receive the full brunt of my criticism then I've got better things to do with my time and I'll pick
a new favorite and I'll train a new star this was the breakup but it only lasted five minutes
you try to out you try to out creep your opponent and death note death note if I creep the
that camp I would lose my DK. But again you tank with leech and your DK just stay for coil.
Okay, okay. He's baiting him. He's baiting him. Oh wait, he's coaching Yamato right now. Oh.
Grubby's bad coach. He didn't tell Hera to tank with Leech.
It's pretty bad. I think his Russian accent makes it funnier.
It would be even better if his accent was French.
A Macgood actor in the Believes is...
The world is inside your base, killing your prison.
And you're in the team with the fake Mac.
You know, they're giving us French.
Oh my god, this is hard.
Oh, beat up, boo-do-boo-do. Beat up, boo-do-boo.
He looked up out of mute!
Legit! Makes sense!
It's that simple! You don't want to get the empty, you don't want to get distracted.
Oh, gold is required! What?
What?
The best part is, when you know they came well enough, you know exactly what happened.
Like you know what happened and how they're failing.
You know the depth of their failure and cluelessness.
And if you don't feel too bad for them, it's really funny.
This is still too loud, it was very quiet.
That was very quiet.
That's the best one.
We want the headliner.
People want the headliner?
The headliner.
The first match of the Clan War is a one on one that begins on springtime and is the best
of three.
Each team captain will send their representative blindly.
Who will they send first?
find out. I should do a channel point reward for headliner over the next
years. He said the thing, who's the best player in your eye? Sing Sing at his best
or Yamato? They're both very good. They're both very good. I think what matters is
that they are the number one in MMR of their squad of players that is not easy.
Climbing to the top of the ladder like that within the group that you're
selected with is impressive. Now, of course, Singh Singh has
reached the highest MMR. Yamato's peak MMR was Singh Singh's
bottom MMR. Nothing to take away from Yamato, but Singh Singh is
a really big gamer. Singh Singh started at 1450 and then climbed
to 1600 plus or 1700 plus. It's, it's pretty insane. I actually
think if Singh Singh practiced for half a year with full
commitment, if he, you know, felt like he wanted to do that, he
would be very close to my skill. And he could take maps. He
started, yeah, since he started at 1450. Like we've come to
expect this kind of rubber banding effect where everyone
starts at 1500 and then drops below, and then goes back up
again. And since him just never did this. That's crazy. By the
way, chat, by the way, w three champions, they have offered me
Next time I hold one of these, if I ever do again, which would of course be nice for all of us,
if I ever do one of these again, they are willing to, based on my recommendation,
onboard certain streamers at a lower starting MMR. To kind of skip the whole, you need to
suffer 15 games in a row. Now, this is abusable if you give free reign to people. If you say like,
Like, if you want to start at 500, 1,000, 1,500, 2,000,
it's abusable.
Everyone likes free wins more than they like getting
beaten mercilessly.
But the technology is there.
We can be agile with a platform like this.
I also want to point out how grateful I am in general
that there's so many people at the W3 Champions team that
are making this event possible with the kind of agility
that we need in order to make changes in the short term.
Like small little changes that can even
serve as an example for something that Blizzard might also be able to implement.
You know, W3 Champions is not a pirate platform. It requires you to login with your Battle.net
so that it still validates your, you know, your license, valid license to the game. So it's not
like the old Hamachi game arena and whatnot. It's fully, let's say, condoned by Blizzard and is an
important example platform for some of the things that are possible. Many of the good changes that
that came to the actual client were first trialed
in W3 Champions.
So it's kind of a good testing environment
and they're a great place to run these invitations.
Now, if you wanna help contribute a little bit
to the platform that made that possible,
it would be remiss of me not to point out
that it is a completely volunteer platform
with server costs that are not always being fully covered.
So I'm just gonna go ahead and put the link in the chat.
If you want to donate or support their Patreon, don't feel forced to do it by any means.
But if you would like to support them a little bit because you appreciate the vessel that
they have been for this tournament, you can go to their Patreon or to their PayPal to donate
or Patreon.
I think that'd be nice.
Do you think Blizzard will take over W3 Champions like Microsoft did with Fogorn and Parson
A2?
I'm not sure.
I think we would lose some agility in the development environment that Dubchamps has,
so I'm not sure it's necessarily one that who covers the servercast when short.
The irony is that the very programmers that are maintaining the updates on the platform are also
the ones that will pay any overdraft. They have some financial contributions from supporters,
I'm a monthly supporter as well, but not only are they giving their effort, you know, as programmers,
they have their own jobs, but they're putting their effort into it, and then they would also need to
put some money into it. So, Titer1 made that exact complaint. Yeah, and although Titer1 made it
angrily, he had a very good point, right? Titer1 coming back should have had XPDK,
people that are new to the game, where you know that they're going to come in hot at 400mmR,
It's not that fun to start with 20 losses in a row.
And so by my recommendation, they can start at the lower MMR.
I think it would make the onboarding a little bit more pleasant and a better look.
It still means that any viewers that are following their streamers,
any viewers of Mary Maybe that are following, any viewers of Simply that are following,
that are inspired and catch the Warcraft 3 bug,
they would still have the 1500 MMR starting experience.
It's not great, but yeah, for bespoke VIPs,
we can probably offer that service next time.
What about a tournament with only Dota players?
Yes, it's not impossible.
Not impossible.
I'm gonna be, it's a shame you wouldn't be doing SE2.
The game is very different when Swarmos were ruining games
and the skill ceiling is so high.
Xerx dodging storms, they're in spreading bans.
Yeah, for sure. For sure. It's more of a me thing. Like I have... look. It's not like it was like a truly traumatic experience.
There were so many good things that happened in the SC2 scene, but I generally had very tilting moments, tilting months, even more than a year in StarCraft 2.
So it's not like 100% positive memories, even some of it that I don't really want to...
Like I recently had a show match with Leon and that was about as serious as I wanted to get with it in recent times.
I don't really want to spend three weeks going into SC2 with that.
Yeah, look, I know it's a big word, but there were some traumas there, but a lot of it is my own fault, so some of it is David Gaines' fault.
I'm hoping for an All-Star Tournament, top two from all previous tournaments.
You know, that's always a cool idea. It's something, an idea that has been floated a lot before, as well.
Think about that is, if we do one of these every year, then the top two from the first tournament, Ampi and Dendi,
it's going to be four years ago since they played. Like it's not the same as like a recent contender, or five years ago. So...
the idea sounds like something top two for maybe tournament they're all gonna be
really close to each other level no not necessarily not necessarily
some also kept playing some people some people didn't pick word win pink word
won an FFA pink word won the second title one FFA in 2024
Ruegen, guys.
Yes, 30.
Thank you, Ruegen, guys.
Thank you for your help as well.
Invaluable and irreplaceable.
What you did for the tournament too.
Thank you, Ruegen, guys. Of course, we're not done yet.
We still have our brackets
going to be coming up.
With several more matches.
We have six best of threes.
No, we have six best ofs tomorrow.
Three best of threes
and three best of fives.
I have basically not eaten all day aside from breakfast, so I do need to do that as well.
I don't know if there's like still any content going on in the Warcraft Tritch sphere.
I guess Yamato Kannon is being educated.
Is that what's happening?
Is he playing by himself?
Nope. Again, you pull before your Archimage is out.
And usually against an Nytil, you can scout.
For example, if here you don't scout, again, you take it here, if someone bought Elemental, you attack.
I was laughing my ass off about this yesterday. It was good, but it was harsh. It's really good content.
Can I get Pudo and I just eat over this? Can we watch this for a little bit before I raid over there?
So you finish the guy and you can make expo again your expo can be started in 3 minutes
It depends on what supply. If you 28 supply, it will start a little bit later, a little bit later.
You see?
That's a thing is, if we want more complicated and you should use it,
We have a bit, you know, scouting with scouting,
creeping with 5 militia is harder.
And this creation, you should do it.
I think I was used 6, actually.
No.
You will lose 5.
Okay, because otherwise I can't expand, right?
Yeah, you can't expand.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
And you need scout.
Yeah, I like this Altar adaptation actually, this makes a big difference actually.
So here, what's the difference?
We will play around our footman scout.
I do it exactly every game that I play.
And if I know that I know my opponent will do what exactly, so I'm playing around my
opponent, you will scout.
Okay.
How you do it?
You pull this one footman and this footman instantly going 90 degrees.
Okay.
If Demon Hunter finish this camp and go creep here, you go creep the Ghidra.
If Dimon Hunter retards from this camp, running to you with low 1, you just stay on your expo and don't touch Hydra, you just stay here and wait for him.
Okay. That's a big, biggest difference. So, because if we don't scout and F is retarded,
after creeping this, we start to creep Hydra, but he would be on us and will deal a lot of damage
because Hydra is slow, our footman is your damage, and you fuck basically. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
So you actually need to know, because most night elves after creep orange, this orange.
They will go creep green camp.
Okay.
It's when you creep here and you already have two strong items.
Okay.
And let's say he comes.
If I know he's coming.
What are the situations where you would cancel expo?
Send Militia back after killing the camp?
No, no.
Never.
No situations.
No, no situations.
Is there a situation only if you scout this and you see that there are no action to war at all
and he creeps expansion oh okay yeah then you don't creep Hydra and rush his expo instantly
Ok.
If you creep your expo and you rush his expo.
Damn.
Ok.
Yeah.
That's why again you need to scout because you need to know he creeps this, he go kill
Hydra or he run to you or he creeps first expo.
Ok, ok.
Just checking if he has hammerfall games.
I'm not looking of...
Just wanted to...
can see his hammer fall games and there's no way he's gonna pivot. I will show you,
you'll do it and then you check. Again, look. Our Archimage turned out, we call Malaysia
and then we pull, so we call militia first, we pull and then we send
then again with some more elemental our pull was late because they didn't want to pull
you see what's happening when if you if you pull like if you take the creeps not
close enough to gold main right yeah this guy where he go he go here
You see?
Yeah.
And so my militia can't attack him because they need to run through this all the time.
What is the leash range? Can you show me with your mouse pointer?
What is the leash range from the Goldman?
It's a leash like here. You want to stay like near here, yes.
Okay.
Again, with scoping, we get the information, and we also spread the damage between your
The problem is now.
Okay.
I think I have done what I need to do.
So I just run it through and then you can tell me after, okay?
After the train?
Like I will do it.
And at the same time, just let me go through the motion, okay?
The reason of spread damage is that your units often, they can't attack the one guy at the
same time, they will run around because it's too many units, they block each other.
Yeah, someone to lose DPS, okay.
So attack on guy is actually inconsistent.
Yeah, I'll do that one
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What can I say it's terrible?
it's terrible because you forgot your third footman when you're running to the
creep you forgot your again fourth pageant so you would be at very at low at
lumber and you know adjust very bad yeah I was you was your fourth footman when
you finish the camp yeah yeah no I was concentrating on the pool I wasn't thinking
about the macro, was he right?
I should do everything properly.
So the order, you call Militia first,
before four seconds, then you pull.
Ready to see door.
Was my timing fine on the pull or not?
Why did I get netted?
I wonder I do wrong.
No, no, need to see replay.
Okay, okay, fuck it.
Just keep going.
ah you get that because your second footman he wasn't really point to the corner
I see okay
so he got from the center
I see I see okay
Don't forget third footman, yeah peasant
Get ready to work, Pini. What's up, son?
Orders? Well?
Putman, taedan.
I farm taedan to set the game. That's why you will have no food for expo.
Yup.
You can restart and you see that all the time your sword in all the third farm pattern is
of a K like all the time every day completely so you need to be sure that you use your
shift after you make third farm.
If you play Harrah, the spool would be very important for you.
What? What is it? Ready to roll? What is it?
What work? Yes, my lord. Right hand.
Oh, I got it. Right hand.
What?
Ready to roll. What is it?
Stop time. Stop time.
Okay.
What?
and you your worker have to make the farm
I don't know what you're doing.
Yeah, yeah.
More work, right?
What is it?
Yes, my lord.
So with your barracks, before your second footman is out, you already really point the corner.
I should show to you before.
Which corner? Where I'm going?
Yeah, your first footman is out and secondly just really point the corner.
The triangle. Yeah, this green triangle you mean? Like a little grass?
Yeah, you really point the...
Here.
No, not like this you really point the corner
We're at 238 like you really points over the corner. Oh
Yes, yes, I understand. I understand okay like
This yes, yes, yes, okay the second foot money do this and you will never have problems
Yes, sir.
What?
Off I go then.
Yes, sir.
Ready to work.
Job's done.
What is it?
Here we go.
Yes, sir.
I fucked up
Smite if I click a tree with my rally?
With a footman?
Yeah, it's fine
I fucked up
You can try the easier pull, to like, to stick it on.
This pull is harder.
Nah, let's keep going.
Guys, I'm gonna pay attention to this, and then I'm gonna do the pull.
I wanna see if I can make Death of Proud.
Can I do it?
I don't get it, it seems Yamato did the pool just fine, what am I missing?
And the fact that you need to ask, it's terrible.
Grubby, you aren't used to listen to anyone? Really? You forget that I'm married?
What is it?
Take the call.
Are the games done for today?
Yes.
Yes they are.
Okay I want to see how you're supposed to do it, okay?
What are they trying to achieve here?
Not taking any damage.
it fast. Pulling at the right time. Expand by what? 3, 3, 10.
Flidman comes out. Rally to the bottom left. Okay. Take the militia. Flidman in position.
Four seconds before the hero comes out. You do the pull, you pull the militia. Pull the
rock on the way towards you. Why does he keep pulling it towards the second
camp? That's just trouble. The other camp is gonna get mad. It's terrible. Are you
supposed to pull it to the other camp? I don't think so.
Deathhunt pulls it towards the middle. Yeah, he keeps making the same mistake.
I'll do the creeps, because we're slain here.
Yes, for the so many of time!
Alright, hold on. I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this.
I can't watch this wrong so many times in a row.
This is not about practice. This is about my...
I mean, I don't know. It's like state of mind, no?
You can't keep doing it the same way.
I'll send you a timestamp. No, just explain it to me in words.
We'll need to send a time stamp here.
I grew up so I would like to see a custom game tournament.
Then find somebody else.
Just do it correctly.
I guess I could cheat to get everything out faster, but I need to do it the same way.
I don't think custom game tournament is as interesting, so...
Athleticman pulls to the side, goes scouting.
Uh-huh.
But aren't you supposed to pull it up first?
Aren't you supposed to pull it up initially?
Because then you wanted to come towards you so that you can engage earlier.
What happens if the opponent bounces map?
It's best to 5, there's not gonna be a lot of dance.
Did you change your mind on hosting a tournament for the Noggin, Arubian, Race maps?
I mean, it's not what you want for beginners.
The goal was quick level 2 and X-Port 310, the upwards pull was against earlier us.
earlier us yeah no I suffered I suffered that face against death note like I go
immediately and the rock always did before I get there that's so OP but
maybe I could do faster alter shenanigans too
no no no I'm not questioning death note that's his main I wouldn't dare I can't
Look now, bram
I think alter position is good. What's wrong with the altar? It's good. I'm doing my best
Terrible a farm. No, it's it's on time
Get into this, fam!
What is it?
You need...
...to find your...
...fam!
Yes, my dee!
I've been caught by...
...on my way!
On time!
Don't do this, you need...
...to find your...
...fam!
Red flag!
I think I did it well!
Oh, I'm supposed to scout? Oh, terrible.
Uh, you have to look and use eyes.
Ah, shit.
Didn't scout, unacceptable. I see.
Wait, that's crazy.
But look, my timing is good.
See?
259! One second ahead of schedule!
Good copper move!
Tell me what you did wrong!
Okay, alright let's see.
Let's see, 259 guys!
It's good, no?
Footman's supposed to catch you, so you know what you're going to have to take next.
If you get a rush enemy, or you try to expo according to death note.
Okay, that makes sense.
It was good for your level!
Thanks.
Take the call.
Decent for you.
I see.
Tell me where this enemy is right now.
You got lucky your opponent was terrible.
Oh man.
4 seconds already can pull, yes
It's too late now
Wait, 205?
Oh, for sure
205 Archmage?
Is that earlier than mine?
You see that you should pull before your Archmage is out
So they already come back and you already start the creeping
Yeah, yeah, I understand
This is nice though
Nobody's running home
I'm gonna kill the wrong guy
It's okay, at least you didn't forgot your 4th footman and militia on 4th phase
At least you didn't forget
Like, the most important part would be when you're inside the pool
It's a great screen match
You can create the game on battle there, and you can even restart, you know, you just press menu and restart.
I don't see a reason to turn off the stream. This gives me inspiration for all of us in our lives.
Are you guys feeling nervous? You should, because you're a failure. You're fucking disappointment.
It was terrible, but with more practice you can do better. The best thing you did was turning on this stream today.
It's the only good thing you did.
The Death Note Heracotian was very cordial, maybe the Death Note is a bit too fan, I see.
So it was nice.
What time do you start tomorrow? Uh, I wanna check with the players. The person that needed
the earliest schedule? Uh, he's not in the tournament anymore. So we can play later.
I forgot to scout!
Sorry coach.
Where is your opponent?
Not bad, not bad, 1 out of 10.
At least you didn't forget third footman.
Thank you coach.
What can I say?
Terrible.
What did you do wrong?
Well, I guess I just did everything wrong then in that case.
No, no, not victimize myself.
I victimize you.
I want to know what it's like to be a martyr for a second, you guys are doing a great job
of simulating Death Note. Death Note didn't scream at Hera since he doesn't have a reason
to. Tomorrow there'll be plenty. I see.
Death Note has been silent for the past 30 minutes. Wait, we're imagining it.
This time I have to remember to scout. It's very important, otherwise we don't know where
enemy is. Now I don't know where to go yet based on where enemy is.
Scout towards Makura camp, okay, and I need to know if they're taking a lot.
They're natural.
If they're at Makura camp, you go Hydra. Oh I see. If they're at Makura camp, I can
Go Hydra.
No, I'm grabbing and I'm doing the thing.
Of course!
I'm learning, it's free coaching.
Oh, this is good, right?
I'll do it again I'll do it again sorry sorry oh fuck oh no I'm getting
nervous oh shit restart three seconds too long on the farm
I guess I'm just doing things how I was used to do them, which is horrible one out of ten.
Would you play in heras a w2 streamer tournament or are you already too good like atriumc in yours
Yeah, I'm invited. I accepted long story short. I am too good, but I'm still invited
Yeah, you can stay bot only.
So you can restart the trigger.
So which maps do you veto tomorrow?
I vetoed the last of them, so last of them and spring break.
I don't like springtime right?
Springtime right.
I don't like springtime I think.
I'm too, I'm gonna like this and this and that.
Springtime.
Presence to love.
I can't, I don't kill the Golem fast enough.
I played again today.
I was by AM, not AM but...
Bloodmates.
left check so what maps do we have autumn leaves autumn leaves northern aisles
aquiles hammer full
something's missing the springtime tide hunters
Equiles, Tide Hunters, Ring Tying, Modern Isles, Autumn Leaves.
There's something that I'm forgetting.
Maybe you can try easier pull-fars.
I don't know, I was missing here.
One, two, three, four, five, six.
Decent diamonds for you, thank you.
Thank you, Chef.
What are our plan in Autumn Leaves?
What do you create?
Autumn Leaves, first what I play against, but we practice me doing fast expo, right?
But is it better to just do green expo?
against the expo against the dmg hunter not like the gal
because maybe
because the expo on the bottom
because both expos are very easy right to kill
yeah both expos are fine but
what to say
I'm on slow gameplay speed
But Leo taught me right, which is something that I did was basically I
Bending on scouting right is basically the the bottom expo I can clear with eight militia without anything
And maybe it made actually no it was the ogres sorry
So basically what I did and it worked a lot like I was winning against others like this because
I would fuck with the scouting right like I would do the green I would
Pull militia five depending on scouting do the bottom one return militia
And then eight militia to the ogre camp and then fight with him with my two and like
Like basically he doesn't know my position like this, you know
But if he doesn't pressure, if I don't scout him, coming to...
The best thing you do is restart the game.
Shit, wait, wait, I'm gonna play one human guys, come on, let's go.
We can do this, we can do this.
Ladder.
Anyone playing?
Anyone playing ladder right now?
I got this, I got this.
Why did you leave winning game?
I don't know why, it is fullscreen, it's not fullscreening, I have two versions of W3
champions open, what the fuck?
Oh no, it's Yamato's, nevermind.
So I don't know why today I'm not getting my full screen to extend to the bottom of the screen.
That's all good, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
The guy who you play against tomorrow
He like, no, I would say like 1995% he will creep green and go to you
So he will still have low 1dH but he will have some items
Okay, I'm human against the orc, awesome Leafs
Let's try to do this
Chanji
I can do this, guys.
You can do this, I can make you proud.
Slow Altar Reset.
Oh, it was fast.
That was good.
Do I fast expand in order to try and simulate human against Nidalef, like Yamato Kannon?
And Death Note? Or do I just play my human against Orchid?
It was fast for Snail, fast expo go. Bad building placement, restart.
then you can do this I can do this
wrong colors
why is Hero starting at 108?
shouldn't it start one second earlier?
I think so slow 38% win rate worse than Tyler one it's not about win rate it's
It's MMR. It's MMR base. Come on.
I
Oh, I thought he had some surrounding.
How do you live in losing game?
How do you live? Oh god.
of course it's ready to work
more words man
whatever
orders say the word
let me out
our town is under siege
what
what you need
on my way
orders
yes you lord
what right man
get on with it
I can hardly win
say the word
What? What word? What is it? What word?
Say the word! Say the word!
What is it? Off I go then, you moron!
What? What is it? What is it?
What? Alright. Well?
Yes, my dear, you require my assistance.
The forces are under attack now!
What is this? Attack!
What is this?
Injury for darkness and darkness
In a fight, I thought
Attack!
In a dead of done
Well?
What is this?
I think you can move this along with attacks
Here's my lead
Well? What?
What is it, you porters? Ready for a call?
Yes, I'm saying a word. Say the word.
Yes, I'm done, porters.
Come at him. Our porters are on the return.
What? What do you need? What do you need?
We need porters for Lord Aron.
Well, say the word. What is it? Yes, I'm right.
Well, what?
Our forces are under attack!
What?
Get out!
What is it?
I'm talking to you.
I'm talking to you!
What is it?
Listen to me!
I'm talking to you.
Ready?
Well, what?
You need...
What is it?
You require my
Yes, we all
Well, you require my
What's your name?
I'm Elord
I'm ready.
Yes, my lord.
Make a lot of turn.
You don't want to attack Satan, my lord.
Yes, my lord.
Oh, word.
Yes, my lord.
Oh, word.
What is the person?
Yes, my lord.
Ready for action. What do you need?
What is it now?
What is it?
I
Well, it's worth my money.
Ready to run and get me, Lord?
Oh, Lord.
Are you a fireman?
What is it?
What is it, Dark Star Lord?
What is it?
What?
What is it?
Oh, Lord.
Are you a fireman?
Come on.
Come on, sir.
Well?
What is it now?
Get on!
Upgrade!
Oh, word!
Off I go, then!
Watch this!
You have a target!
What?
Oh, word!
Require my assistance.
I'm a lord.
What is the name of you?
What?
Reset complete.
Get on!
Well?
Upgrade complete.
Yes, my lord.
Require my assistance.
Get on!
More lumber is required.
More logs done is required.
Oh, fuck you, Dave.
What is the word of attack?
He says, coming through.
Great, so just see me out there.
Right.
Hello.
You require my help?
Huh.
What?
Give me some food.
Move back to the front stairs.
What?
Just get out of here.
I can't.
I just want my pay.
Give me some food.
The world is horrible.
You require my assistance?
I can hardly see you.
I can hardly see you, man.
What are you doing?
What?
What are you doing?
I'm coming through!
All forces are under attack!
Get out!
I'm coming through!
Get out!
I
What is this? Ground?
What is this?
This is what you all just said. You're not easy.
What is this?
What do you mean?
What is this?
You have a target?
What is it?
What?
All of this is required.
Dwarf!
What is it?
What word?
Where do you see me at?
Get down.
It's my game to be quiet.
Say the word!
What is it now?
Get me something to do!
Well, it's a plan Z.
Yes, we are.
I can't do that.
I know, then.
What ails you.
You make my dog do it.
Whoa, what?
Yes, we are.
You make my son do it.
I can't do that.
Yes, we are.
Where's your sense of humor?
I don't stand a chance.
What a terrible, horrible, horrible thing.
What?
Whoa, what?
I'm brilliant.
I'm coming for you.
Well.
What a terrible, horrible thing.
I
What?
Well, you are the one who must have killed me.
You are the one who must have killed me.
Horses are under attack.
What do you mean?
There's no doubt.
Wait till you see me in action.
Get down from here.
Well?
Do you require a...
What?
What do you mean?
What a good idea.
Require assistance.
Help me.
You want to pull through some of the other tasks?
Yeah.
Hm?
I don't see no forces are under attack.
Why?
We're easy.
Get up.
Get down.
Get up.
Not enough, Mac.
Get down, Scott.
No, good idea.
The forces are under attack.
Get up.
Move.
What?
Require my...
Stick down!
What?
Wanna be...
What?
Alright!
I'll bug you then!
Quick!
Well?
I understand now.
What is it?
Alright!
Yes, sir!
Well?
Wanna be...
Get this!
Quick!
Require my...
Of course there's a London attack!
Yes, sir!
What?
This gotta be it.
What is it?
Stick down!
What?
Require my...
Get this!
Easy!
What word? No one else available?
What is it now?
Well?
Take it down!
Do you require me?
What?
What I want to do?
Yes, my lord?
What is it now?
Do you require me?
Wait till you see me amac-
Help me!
Help you!
Hold him away!
I said complete!
What is it now?
What? What is it?
Wait till you send me an action.
Alright?
Once again, it's up to you.
Well? What is it now?
What a good idea.
Help me.
Kick down some people.
Make me your magic in the air.
What is it now?
Get on with it.
I'm gonna kill you.
Alright?
Alright.
I'm not gonna die.
Well?
I'm gonna take some shit.
You require my assistance?
Where could you send me?
I'm gonna fucking wait now.
Do you require a Q-8-6?
That's hard.
Well?
Get down, will you?
I'm coming through.
What worse, Milo?
What is it?
I
No, no, no.
I
Was too fast
well
Shit my peasants
Nice back to low-keep. Yeah, it's nice. I expect a low-keep
We can still do this he's out of money guys look I got his base
I just need to wait for my mountain king and then I'm in the lead, trust.
Oh shit.
Okay, mountain king is back, I'm level 5-5.
We lost at minute 2 when Fugman was late terrible.
No Paladin, 25 minutes.
You didn't know this hero exists.
nice move Kappa, aah Tyler, alright alright that's a Tyler special
my lataki wasn't here
I'm going to use my ult.
Brawleria, hold him away.
Wait till you see me about it.
Give me some.
This is a run to a task.
What is it?
Do you want to go to the wall?
Once again.
I'm going to use my ult.
Well, what do you say?
I'm gonna get down.
Get me something!
Right till you send me back!
Huh!
What?
Right away.
Alright!
That's my job.
Terrible!
Not bad for you, thank you, thank you.
Not bad for you.
Alright, best I can get.
I'll take it.
GG Sick or Render, Sick Headliner.
That was a Sick Headliner?
The Headliner.
The first match of the Clan War is a one on one that begins on springtime and is the
best of three. Each team captain will send their representative blindly. Who will they send?
Terrible, but you're part of the horrible. You improved a bit. All right, I'll stick.
You don't need to go tier three, you don't know how that makes this anyway.
What do you think Death Note will make of that though? Yo GG GG GG. Thank you, Epirus.
Hey, quick thanks to everybody today.
Quick thanks to everybody.
I missed a lot.
Epirus, Lentier, Goat, Darkloft, Crotos, it's Coden, Brambuzogzog, Ruegengeist, TMDuality,
the Finance, Sportla, Amin, Smoke Coalition, Felipe Frog, W3 History, Asing, The Raid Back
to Warcraft Quarrel, Reaper, Prime, Jerakon, Dougfin, Bargore, Ackis, Raid Boss, Snusnus,
Stonemove, 420 and so many more. Thank you guys. Review forgot that now. It's getting
Getting later, getting later.
How do you have visible control groups in game? W3booster.com.
Where's the music coming from? Oh yeah, wait, I know.
You can choose DH, I think, if you press all heroes there.
Guys, let's take the call. I'm gonna go ahead and raid Yamato-Kana. I'm gonna take my dog to take a nice long walk.
Thank you so much for tuning in today. I hope you enjoyed it. I know you probably did because so did I.
It was a lot of fun. We continue tomorrow. Let me check the schedule.
We don't have contact to everyone, so you're gonna have to wait and see when it starts. The normal time is 2 p.m.
but we might start at 4pm. I'll update you guys in the Discord and here on the
title as well. Alright, have a good night. Thanks for watching. Peace.
And next is, you know, just on what to place with yourself, take your food and
just watch, you know, just try to watch, try to get something, relax and try to
study with yourself
you
i'll do the first thing tomorrow