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Hey, what's up guys, welcome to the stream, how's it going?

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Tournament over, lots of great memories, we'll review some of the best memories today, we'll

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also review why my green screen is bugging out, is it daylight again or is it not, what

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you guys think. I think it's daylight. Yep, it's daylight. Hello, Simply. How's it going,

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you AOC dog? You YouTube stream is on. Hello, everyone. Hello, everyone. Oh, man. I slept

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so late last night. I almost went for a nap just now after dinner. I was only really tired.

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But then I recover it, Sing Sing Sing is going to start AV2 practice tomorrow for no specific

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reason, do you know why he might be starting practicing?

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I don't know, but I'm also going to start this week.

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Good day, simply, good day.

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Did you see Tyler won Uninstall Worker 3?

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No, I didn't see.

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Let's see.

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dog oh yeah I need to open chat on screen so you guys can see what I'm

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looking at I mean the chat's already on screen what that's all this then what's

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all this oh yeah remember these guys delete that delete these guys there

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Vampirizing noise. Yeah. Yeah, I wonder if he's still gonna do that, the show match?

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Like, is he still gonna do that?

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Hey, Gruby, was Tidewan just being salty for his streamer persona, or was he actually salty about the hero game?

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I think he was actually salty, and I think he doesn't hold back, in fact, he may add

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on top of it.

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You know, the second streamer invitation I held, I invited eight strategy game streamers,

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and it was really sedate, it was very civilized, no one's flaming, no one's throwing any words,

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And it was a very gentlemanly tournament, but there wasn't as much strong feelings.

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The kind of stuff that Hera, Tyler One, and Dante's bring, and even Mary maybe.

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And I think those are fun too.

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I think it's fun when there's a little bit of everything.

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Now Tyler One, I think Tyler One is generally a good guy, I think Tyler One is generally

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a good guy.

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It gets generally upset when he loses in comparative games.

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amazing work on the team competition. Yes. Hey, thank you,

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Creedler. Thank you. I mean, I think he generally gets very

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salty. And let's just do this and close the onscreen chat.

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Oh, I'm showing my discord. Wow. New version Park.

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Yeah, I think he's a good guy that gets salty in competition.

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So I don't think he can hand wave it away and say, no, it's just a persona.

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He's not upset at all.

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Headliner, Clueless Ass, and Death End Coaching are my favorite memes.

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4 out of 5 headliners recommend Gobi the Last One recommends Hera.

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Did you see Tyler on the Uninstall Worker 3? I doubt it.

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Great feeling after the tournament, Grubs. Yes.

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But I also didn't want to stay in the clouds and just base in the glory of what happened.

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I want to think about new plans too. The AOE2 practice arc,

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and what I want to do with the week and stuff, and I've got a lot of stuff to do at home

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to clean up the house and the garden and everything.

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Tyler was playing this morning. He was playing this morning? Wow.

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Hera announced some of his participants. Yeah, someone sent me a clip.

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How could you not be salty there? Well, the thing is, a lot of pro RTS players that play a single-player game,

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they eventually adopt as good as they can, they adopt a mentality where they accept that

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they make mistakes and that they need to do better and so on and then that's something

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you learn in solo games but you don't learn that in multiplayer games as much automatically.

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Are the plates still on the ground? No, I cleaned up the six plates but I have three new ones.

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Yeah, a little bit spice, yeah. We need flamers, yeah.

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Hey, Gruby, I don't know if you know yet, but technically it's been leaked.

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Okay, let's check it out.

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I'm very full of hope that the distraction of viewers and possibly new players will help Blizzard make a move towards a new Warcraft.

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Yes, we are very well underway to Warcraft 4.

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And thanks to Maxim, we have a lot of suggestions on what not to include, including Demon Hunter and Anaburn.

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And about 35 other things.

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1, 4 and 8% evasion.

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Alright.

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We need to practice for no specific reason.

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Why do you have to thank me for the 117?

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From tomorrow I might be starting a read to practice for no specific reason at all.

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We'll be fine.

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GG to now.

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Have a nice evening.

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This seems really suspicious.

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When are we going to see the final match of your last YouTube video?

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Tonight.

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Make sure that you're not here if you don't want to get spoiled.

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You're most likely going to get spoiled in a live chat of a stream

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of a stream that was the main stream of the recent tournament that was orgged by the person that owns this stream.

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Are you going to be inviting Happy to your next tournament as Tyler once suggested?

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Man...

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Guys, how do I deal with these streamers with their outrageous suggestions?

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Let's fucking go. The RTS Pro won. Let's go. Let's go 35 years of playing RTS. What a goat.

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Invite Happy to the next one, Grubby.

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18 lifetime messages. He wasted 12 on the hate watching. Out of his 18 messages.

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I announced the winner on my discord with an at everyone notification.

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Oops.

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Some people got spoiled.

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I apologize.

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All right, who's playing wait, he's winning

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Hold up wait, this is highest MMR

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Why didn't you do that immediately?

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Wow, oh wow, grubby, I stayed up way too late catching up on the tournament.

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Well worth it for such a nail bite of finish.

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Tie from the...

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U.S. Hey, thank you, wingman.

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Stayed up way too late.

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Yeah, we all did.

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There was an Australian that stayed up late.

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Kirby, have you ever rage uninstalled a game?

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I don't know about rage uninstall.

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Yeah, yeah, I guess so.

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I guess so, like Starfield and Terraria?

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Deadlock?

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Starfield, Terraria, Deadlock?

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I never uninstalled Dota.

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But I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what about StarCraft.

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I quit StarCraft 2 in 2014, the end of it, December 31st.

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And 2015 I started Here's of the Storm, January 1st, right?

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New year, new beginning.

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Many years later, I was invited to Mike Morheim's birthday,

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the then CEO of Blizzard,

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maybe six or eight years later, could even be seven.

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And this was after BlizzCon,

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and there was a poker party and whatnot.

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And it was in a LAN party somewhere in California.

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There was me and there was my wife, my plus one,

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and then there was like 60 other streamers,

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maybe even 70 casters, streamers, pro gamers,

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X-pros, et cetera.

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I was one of the further removed StarCraft players.

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It was mostly a, let's invite the StarCraft VIPs.

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I was a bit further removed

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because I hadn't played in a while

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And I was in full time here with the Stormer already.

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Then Mike Morheim and the delegation there were like,

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yeah, you can play games.

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Go ahead and enjoy yourself.

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We have poker game.

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We have computers.

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You should be enjoying yourself.

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Go play some games.

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And my wife and I are my plus one, which is my girlfriend.

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My wife and I, we were like, OK, let's go play some games.

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we've done enough socializing, we went to sit at PC and I told my wife, I said, we're here as

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Starcraft invitees, we should play Starcraft, actually, like we wanted to play Heroes of the

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Storm, but we should play Starcraft, like to fit in, because that's, that's what we should be

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doing here. And I launched Starcraft. And I heard the theme music and I saw the menu. And I had

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such a revolving immediately such like no no no no no no no not this I

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all afford it and then we played here's of the storm I was like fuck it if this

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like drops my esteem in anyone's eyes that I'm not star crafting then fuck it

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like I'm already I'm already here like they invited me and I have more value

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than my than my link to starcraft alone I'm not gonna play it even if they kick

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me out of the party. Actually traumatic. Couldn't even look at the game, couldn't even pretend

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to like it. What made you switch from Starcraft to Waka3? I never did, I switched from Starcraft

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to Heroes of the Storm. What made me switch is Burnout on Starcraft. Did they kick you

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out? No, of course not. This whole thing played out in my head.

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So, Tyler Wan played a whole bunch of games, won almost everything, big MMR, Yamato Cannon,

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didn't play again, Hera, 1407, that was all yesterday.

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Bro, I need your help, do you remember an old Warcraft match between a Korean player

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where you killed a Zeppelin full of heroes with a ratbiter?

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No, I don't know.

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Hey, grab a new follower here. Yeah, checks out. Long time sub.

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What are your thoughts on Swarmosts? Simply also played after a tournament.

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I see. Oh, but he's playing Orc.

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Not so easy, huh? But he wins the fourth game. Not bad.

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Yeah, I'll be happy to receive some clips.

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Is Starcraft harder than Warcraft 3?

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I think so.

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I think Starcraft is easier to understand and harder to compete at high level.

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Kribby, after this peak of Warcraft 3, can we expect some Elden Ring DLC?

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Kind of halfway into 2026 already.

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No, bro, bro, I got I got an a we two tournaments coming up. I have to start this week

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Gaby, do you miss the energy of the tournament? No, no, I think it was a

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perfect tournament

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Perfect cocasters

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Wow drop a huge thanks to you and everyone involved for a great tourney tourney tournament

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At least I didn't miss the headliner.

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Well, thank you so much.

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I don't know if you guys can see it.

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I just shot saliva out of under my tongue.

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Can you guys do that?

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Can you put your tongue to the top of your palate

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and then jet like some kind of venomous dinosaur?

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I used to be able to shoot it on command, like 20, 30 cm away.

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It's called Gleeking. It has a name?

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Uh, gonna be a bit of a fan ever since you jumped out of that window in China.

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Glad to see the Warcraft 3 tournament turned out great. All the best.

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Hey, cheers. Thanks, man.

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You're only on accident. Okay, I was able to practice to do it on demand.

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Cool, huh?

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I think.

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Uh, yeah, I think the tournament went, uh, perfectly.

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Uh, yeah, we can try that another time.

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Or now? Should I do it now?

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Yeah, I think it went perfectly. I think the run-up to it was great. I think the streamers that were involved were great.

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The help I got from the website maker, Vivi in the editing room, RuyGimGuySys, the main point of contact.

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The 15 other mods that helped. I think everything was perfect.

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The only thing I should have done differently is see if I can get some admin budget from Blizzard.

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Because initially I run the tournament at the loss.

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Because I forgot to ask admin budget, it's just prize money.

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And after the fees of spreading the prize money around, I'm in the minus from the prize money.

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That was not so smart.

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But it's okay. That's just a small part of it. Next time, if there's a next, I'll ask

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try to find sponsor. Do you think they would have said yes? I don't know. I think they

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should look. I don't know what they can, what they can do. I hope they like the event and

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see its value. I would imagine they do because it has insane value for them. And if they

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I think, I mean, you know, it's up to them. They make their decisions and I'll make mine.

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Right.

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What he thought about the tournament didn't see your last two was the same hype.

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I think we picked at like 30 KCCV on Twitch, which is over the second streamer inf, but under the first.

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The first was the first. And it also came right after Onlyfang's invitational.

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And it was with the two war chiefs of the Onlyfang invitational, so the popping Tyler one.

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So, back then it was like 40-45k CCV, the second streamer in was like 18-21, and this

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one was like solidly 20-25 and then with a 30 peak.

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So this is the second place, but I think it is the best one.

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So the CCV is in the middle, like 2 out of 3, but I think the quality of production and

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the show was 1 out of 3.

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The second was very soon after the first, yeah, true.

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This one yet, yeah.

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I don't think they actively sabotage Quarra Fox.

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They put the AOC tournament on the Battle.net launcher, did you guys see?

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I didn't ask for it.

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I just saw they did.

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Yeah, I authorized it to do it, but on a different browser, doesn't matter.

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I came from the banana at Lousy, so yes, cool.

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Crabby won't you stomp everyone in the A.W.2 tournament?

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No, because there are at least two gamers that are insanely good.

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MGL just got laid off from my job, but watching the tourney,

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I felt it was important that I don't watch it for free,

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so subbing for a few more months.

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Fuck your job!

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I'm going to go for the absolute cinema.

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Fuck your workplace!

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They're stupid to fire you.

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You'll find something good, Sixpiacu.

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They don't know what they're missing.

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They're... here they go, firing Warcraft fans.

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Stupid ass job.

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You deserve better.

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It works for the charity.

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Scam charity.

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Scamity.

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Hey, hope you can find something good, Sixpiacu.

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Thank you.

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Hi, Roxy. Cassandra has competed in the next HotS tournament, Corby, that you'll for sure

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do in the next few months. No, I've been thinking about the five people that suggested I should

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do Heroes of the Storm tournament, and I've been thinking what that would look like. First

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of all, there's only five people that have recommended it. And secondly, with 10 streamers,

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All you have is a five on five.

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It's not that interesting compared to Warcraft.

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Someone said,

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won't you just win the AO2 tournament easily?

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And I think you're forgetting that this guy

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is gonna be in secretly.

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Sub-darn-ish, I love your YouTube long,

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smiley face.

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So it's gonna be really high level.

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Yeah, like I'm probably cooked.

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Uh, Grabby, did you see Hera almost cried after you won?

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No, I didn't.

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Do you have a clip?

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He didn't even cry at our wedding.

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Damn.

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Okay.

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But knowing you, that's probably your preferred priorities, Roxy.

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Why would I want my husband to cry over my wedding?

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I wanted to win tournaments.

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You know, I didn't cry at my wedding itself either, because I accidentally saw my wife

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to be the night before doing rehearsal, and I blew my load right then and there.

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She was practicing walking on the stage, and I cried when I saw that.

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My crying load!

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What the fuck?

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Guys!

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Weird!

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No, I started crying when I saw her doing rehearsal and then the next day when it actually transpired,

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I was still touched.

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It was still special, but...

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Okay, so fun fact, when we said our vows, he said something really cute and I blanked

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out so it was my turn.

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I said what he said.

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It's so funny, it's so funny when I proposed to Cass I

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Tried to say something interesting and memorable and then I fucked it up and I said it just came out

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Awkward and cringe and also she doesn't remember what I said, and I don't remember what I said and it was it was all just a

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blur

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but

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It was still W because she burst into tears

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like immediately it looked like one of those fake like movie tiers where suddenly there's

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like two rivers just like streaming like that's a tear machine except I want to AT yeah want

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to be an arranged team so bad that she cried you probably said something about blowing

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No, I didn't. What the fuck? Guys, guys. That's crazy.

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Wait, why can't we hear what he's saying? He's muted.

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I can't believe it.

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26 months for an amazing event Grub Zempestalov

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Hey, thanks never justice

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I can't believe it, let's frickin' go

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No, I saw this clip last night, he said

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I really needed that

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He's 295 APM with his hands on his head

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He's been a god honestly, I don't know how I did that

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I'm very grateful for it, though

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I

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Told me I

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Thank you everyone watching. This is this is really special for me. This is really really important

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He said this is his top five tournament ever I

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Literally poured my heart and soul into this I literally pull it literally

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my heart and soul into this and I can't believe we actually made the reverse

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you happen this is wait actually am I like undervaluing the moment by paying

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attention to his words literally because like when one someone says literally

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when it's figuratively I hear like a wrong usage of literally but this is

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what they were talking about right you literally are yeah now that's a little

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Autistic

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Absolutely unbelievable. I'm just I'm so happy right now honestly

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Literally can also just mean an emphasis. Yeah now it can because you guys ruined it

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People people ruined this word

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Now that's great. That's great

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He's trying to get that's a very cool reaction body bike, okay? We're zapping always body

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God this guy's such a sweat man. What a fucking freak

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Oh my fucking god

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Get off his dick. No, this is a noobs tournament

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psychopath

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Yeah, block him get him out of here

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Get him out of here

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Fuck that made me so fucking happy man

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Well, I can imagine all of you watching like this too.

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This is like the average viewer experience screaming at their monitor.

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Soda is all of you.

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Soda wanted Harry to lose so much.

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And because he insulted his boyfriend Tyler?

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Or what?

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Or because RTS heard her unfair?

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And it was great having the tourney.

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Was so the cast the plan surprise because you've been saying we shouldn't hope for him?

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Yeah, it was kind of a surprise.

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I messaged him like an hour or two before.

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I heard you are the lightning McQueen of Arcadeus.

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What is lightning McQueen?

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What's lightning McQueen?

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From cars?

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What cars?

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Movie cars.

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Cars, Pixar.

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Okay?

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Cool?

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cool so you guys are like falling over cartoon nice that's cool that's really

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matured yet

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gold is required what what aren't you a huge Disney guy yeah but I like Disney

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I like girls Disney movies like little mermaids, Moana, Land Before Time.

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Why are you gay?

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Aladin? Yeah, Aladin. I like the ones with good singing.

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Part of your world!

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What? That's... wow.

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I... because I speak Polish, I always understand when...

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like, in the family they are speaking Russian.

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Oh. Bro, why Graby still didn't transfer boots to MK?

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Oh, say it, say it.

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It's going to be bad, it's going to be rough, and even if somehow we get over that, because

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we both...

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He sounds like thumb sometimes.

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It's going to be bad, it's going to be rough, it's the best.

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Who's to fill, because Grubby killed this invitation, he just, he killed it, he did

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such a good job.

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You thermal said yo, I made the cut who's the guy casting besides you thermal the first day

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He didn't say that much, but man. He was savage

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It's Hearthstone

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This guy achieved big success in everything he took parts not as anything to do and already in 2012 then I saw

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One of my good friends played I was like alright never mind. I want to do this as well

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So I just yeah, I got a beta key at some point and

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Beta.

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You thermal, I wouldn't do it without you man, actually I'm really excited to have you in

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there.

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Um, Tyler's in it, just kidding.

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Actually I wanted to get Tyler but I don't have his contact.

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Now I do but the guy hates me like- Oh no!

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He hates me!

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How?

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I don't know why!

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I called him the worst player in the tournament, bragged that I beat him in League of Legends,

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did everything I could for him to hate me and now he hates me.

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I don't understand why.

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Wanna join my tournament?

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I disrespected him in every single way, but he deserves it because he insulted other people that I don't even know!

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What am I supposed to do? I want to get Tyler in.

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You know, he's still welcome. At the end of the day, he's still welcome if you want to...

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Oh, it's a big opportunity for Tyler.

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Big opportunity for Tyler.

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He's still welcome to join the AoE2 tournament.

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It's just banter. I have no idea.

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So we won. My Warcraft 3 arc started about

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Hera and Tidre have the same personality actually. Yep.

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I realized this a few days into Hera's practice arc that they're the same person.

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One with a polite surface and one that doesn't bother to appear polite surface.

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They're the same people.

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Yes, Hera and Tidre are the same.

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Araha has sharp edges and so do I and so does Tyler and they enjoy in particular to do some

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trash talk and they're both very emotional players and they can tilt and they're both very

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competitive and both are difficult students because when I tell them something I expect

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them to listen, but oftentimes they can't listen. Wrong. No, I'm correct. Uh, there

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Tyler won actually. Tyler won actually her ask him the finals. What?

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Yeah, of course, Hera is better at RTS. I'm not really, I'm not really separating those.

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Tournaments need to be 10k plus streamers that have small children.

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So Soda and Titer 1 only for eternity.

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What?

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Soda doesn't have children.

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They are both just competitive.

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It's the whole character of a person.

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It's not the whole character of a person.

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It's a trait.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Hey.

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the first to say there's differences between them. When I said they're the same person,

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I was literally exaggerating.

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My Valkyrie arc started about three weeks ago after

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a photogramming in Vitamin 2's amazing event that featured streamers both on a plane

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side of things casting me in hell of a show. I took on the challenge to learn a brand new

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new rts. Let's fucking go. Brand new rts. New game. It's a new recent game. New rts

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just dropped, babe. I think he meant brand new for me, but it's brand new, baby. And

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port over a hundred hours into trying to master the game as fast as possible to get

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to the main event in my best shape possible. I'm incredibly happy and proud to have represented

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the Age of Empires 2 community, amongst all the league fiends, and take the crown back

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home.

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To my ground finals opponent, Yamato Mepdi, good freaking game man, you're one hell of

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a player.

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And everyone else along the way, great players and people, except Lol Tyler, zero talent.

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And thanks to all the viewers and coaches who supported me on this journey, it was one

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of the most epic and meaningful cornerstones of my comparative career.

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Shout out to ATroc for being my unpaid therapist.

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Damn.

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the play. You know, he's still welcome. At the end of the day, he's still welcome if

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you want the play. But I think it's just too much. Like, another RTS pro, his mind is fried.

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And their noses are a little bit different. Yeah, I think you found the only other difference

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between them too, DinoBuffy. Did Hera overcome OP Human Race or is Human on OP, we must know.

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It is known, it is known, if you guys are okay with me spoitering it.

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Anymore names I haven't even messaged, get happy, yeah okay I'm gonna get happy to play

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HBumpfires, that's not gonna, I can't even get this guy to play Warcraft, so that's the

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plan for June.

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If happy is playing I'm out.

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You did bad thumb.

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Waste of time.

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Alright guys.

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This is when he's zero two.

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Been here before.

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You can still do it.

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Keep the energy strong.

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And most importantly,

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I'm gonna have a lot of fun.

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Just try my best.

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You can't go out of loser if you're just trying your best.

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Krabbe, did you know human is imba before this tournament?

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No way. I don't think human is imba.

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I think human has an easy way to pursue a win condition, which is to fast expand.

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It requires a certain skill minimum to unlock that sadly some glitters didn't have,

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but Sing Sing, Dendi of course do, and the Yamato Canon did as well.

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It requires you not to play Polar Rifle, but to benefit from fast expansion.

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I saw that Hera had 300 APM at the end of the game against Yamato.

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The Invite Happy Next Time Rage is kind of justified now.

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All of your rage is justified.

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You know why?

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Because they're your true feelings.

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And your true feelings matter.

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It's justified. You can feel however you want to feel.

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Did I promise it's going to be 100% fair tournament? I never did. I don't remember that.

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The headliner therapist.

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Just the idea for the Idea Bank, when yes, when please, you bring back the A-League and the B-League players for two separate tournaments.

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You could make a rule that they have to play a different race.

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Yeah, of course! I raise switch people trust me, of course.

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I raise switch a bunch of people.

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When I think it's going to be too easy for them, I make people raise switch.

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Oh, it's game!

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Oh, it's game!

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I quit.

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You're not okay, are you hurrying?

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Hey guys, do you know that's the angle it's right now?

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Do you know that's the angle when you're having fun with those things?

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Hold on, I gotta check the vibes.

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The vibes have to be immaculate over here.

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God he's indestructible. He's fine.

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I think.

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Yeah, I think I'm pretty happy though.

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It's fine.

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It's going okay.

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No, it's not simply. He has an expansion. It's not okay. None of this is okay.

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I think if there's one big mistake I made in coaching, it's that I didn't impress upon

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people how fucked up it is when someone has an expansion and you don't.

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If they take an exploit like 3-4 minutes, you can't just play the game.

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No, I did tell them that.

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I did coach them that.

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The thing is, Dante and Mary maybe never got to the skill level where I can even explain

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that where it matters in any meaningful way.

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And simply, like Maxim, I told him to all in all the time at minute eight.

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And so I did what I can there too.

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That's all Polaroid we can do, right?

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Simply was just about getting to the level where he needed more advanced training, but

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he got there a little late.

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It's very frustrating to me to see people fast expand for free all the time, and people

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aren't countering it in the early game. It's a waste. There's only two races. If you don't

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know Warcraft 3, there's only two races that can fast expand almost every game and get away with it,

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and it's undead and human. And that's why they have like really clean wind condition. We've had

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undead human finals in the second streamer. We have undead human finals now. And in the first one,

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it was human and night elf with Ampy. Yeah, Ampy is the only elf that's been in the finals.

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Why can't Orc and Night Elves don't do it? So, human takes five Militia and they turn

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them into, okay, there's more clips. Human has five peasants and they can turn them into Militia,

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which for 40 seconds are strongest footmen. So you go from two footmen to seven for a bit.

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There's no other race that at minute two can go from one ground to six or from one archer to seven.

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Under it doesn't even have seven ghouls, they do have skeletons and they can pull lumber guys.

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So human immediately has an insane power with the militia, which they can creep a hard camp with that or can't even think about creeping.

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And then those same five peasants at minute three can start a town hall.

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the human tunnel takes very long to make compared to others. The tunnel takes 180 seconds.

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If you look at a great hole for Orc, it takes only 135. So you think, oh, well, you can

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just great to expand. But power building

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If you power build the town hall, it's a lot faster.

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So one person takes three minutes, but if you just add one second villager, it takes just

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under two minutes, costing another 90 resources.

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If you take four peasants, it takes only a minute, 64 seconds, and you're paying 173.94.

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You can be under a minute with five.

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So you start at three and you're done before four minutes.

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You will pay extra.

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So you pay 600 resources here, and here you pay 300.

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So it's 600, 300 for a 50 second expo.

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That means it starts paying back earlier, right?

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50 seconds versus the orc, 135.

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That's 85 seconds faster.

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You know how much money you get?

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850 gold in 85 seconds.

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So even though you spend 600,

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you're this much faster than an orc,

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and you had the bonus seven, the bonus five footman. Right. So

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that's why human can do it. And the reason undeads can do it

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is because the Ruby and towers broken. And also human can

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defend it because arcane towers broken. They're both very, very,

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very good. Those towers, or watch tower is not broken. Spitter

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tower, AP, guard tower, they're all not broken. Right. But

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those towers are really sick. They do a lot. The undertower allows for

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surrounds, damage reduction, movement reduction, etc. The human tower shuts

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down heroes. So the ancient of war is strong enough for that kind of play. But

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after they make the base, here's how long a tree of life takes.

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Night of is the third best that fast expanding after human, the best under

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the second best. And the night of is the third best. But a tree of life takes still 120 seconds,

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which is way more than 53. And after that, they still need to make an entangled goldmine,

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which lasts another 60 seconds or so. I don't know exactly how long it takes. I think it's

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60. Not sure if I'm tangled. How long does it take to make? Yeah, 60 seconds.

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So if you have an OP tower to defend yourself in Arcane and the Rubian, and you have bonus

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five footmen to creep it at minute two, and then you can make it in under a minute, then

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And of course, fast expansion is good for humans.

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What do you think of every gold mine, except when you started with, was designed with 4pL

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max?

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I don't know.

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Do humans and undead often fast expand?

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Yes.

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Graby, do I need another program other than W3 Champions and W3, you don't need it, but

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there is W3booster.com that can be nice when you stream.

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I am Legion, and you can show it in-game, but I don't recommend it.

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Gribby, I remember the past, you would say that human and elf are the ones that were more deciding whether they can expand.

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Yeah, yeah, that's because Undead got rebalanced a lot.

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Undead got like 8 buffs to fast expansion, so things changed.

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Let me see.

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So the sacrificial skull used to require graveyard, but in 2018-8 August, it no longer requires

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a graveyard.

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Okay, that's one.

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Then there's acolyte buffs.

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Acolyte got a whole bunch of buffs too in 2018-8.

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Hit points increased by 10, movement speeds increased by 30, blight regen increased by

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2 per second to 4 per second and armor from 0 to 1. They reverted some of the movement

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speed increase, but not all of it. Additionally, they reduced some of its region, but not all

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of it. So 1, 2, 3, 4 eco-based buffs. Blight is another one, no graveyard needed. That

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means you now have a graveyard skip when you want to fast expand. That's 5 buffs to

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a fast expound. Then there's the haunted gold mine that got buffed in multitude of ways.

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Here in 2018, blight radius reduced. That sounds like a nerve, but it's actually

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making it less likely to be found for people. Note how it's listed as a buff,

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even though it's a nerve. Blight is good, you have less, it's bad. But you can now get away

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with Ninja exposed more often. And it's also made cheaper. Okay, that's two more buffs. Now that's

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seven buffs. And then Acropolis was buffed as well.

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Backpack shop requirement is removed. Okay, that can help. But it's for all.

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Bill time reduced by 10 seconds and gold time reduced by 30. So the biggest one of all of those

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This is Sculve Blight no longer requiring graveyard, that's the biggest one.

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But in all in all it's 8 buffs to Undead of Expo.

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Why is Orcs are discriminated?

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They're not.

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Orc also got buffs to Expo, but at the end of the day, if you don't have Nerubian or

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Arcane Tower, you're not going to defend your expansion with the same efficacy as Undead

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and Human.

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That's just how it is.

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watchstower gets a slow or a mana burn, it's just a little pinpricker that can be ignored.

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Hey Grum, is it legal to use Aux Scripts to disable mouse wheel in worker 3?

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It's fine, it's fine, just do it. A lot of people use AAHK and they have been since

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the last 30 years. Realtalk, do you think Hera or Yamato could have done as well if they played Orc?

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Man, I think it's easier to practice human and undead because they are proactive and

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Orc is reactive and therefore you need more knowledge, but I think Orc is more than strong

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enough of course to win this story.

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But who would he have copied?

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He would have had to copy Lind.

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Hera would have had to try and copy Lind instead of Happy.

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Lind is not even the best player in the world.

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He's only top three.

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you oh scary man I keep having like a hair in my eye maybe it's because I

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haven't had a haircut in months in like half a year what the hell man oh I

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think it's is it one of my eyebrows

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Shave it all off.

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Let's see what's next.

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Did you tie her lost yesterday, Doc?

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He said bad luck, Rester.

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Bad luck, no fun.

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His name should just be tie her lost, not tie her won.

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Should he name only when he wins?

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Good one.

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Switching strategy, Matt, too.

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Hera being an age of empires 2 pro kind of pissed me off a little bit watching

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him play a little more seeing him play undead and do those massive nukes it's

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bringing a lot of dopamine to me so I like Hera now and I hope her wins so

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about the coil nova is so satisfied makes me so happy seeing it

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do you think Hera or Yamato could take a win off of you and no no not at all not

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not even close. I'll play Hera. I'll play Hera if he wants to, but he's probably going

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to take like a day break and then going to practice AOE 2, no? He should feel what it

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feels like. I did like a vanilla one-on-one against Hera and AOE 2, no Hanika. Remember

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After that, after the 7v1, he should feel the same.

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Ever said he wanted to play versus you?

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Alright, let's do it.

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Before you go back to AV2, do we do a 1v1 in Warcraft 3 like we did in AV2?

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Pure no handicap.

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I can show what Tyler should have done.

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Actually, I shouldn't wait till he challenged me

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because I challenged him in A.V.2.

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I don't wanna pressure him.

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I don't want to pressure you publicly or something.

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So I'm asking in private.

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There we go.

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All right, what's this clip?

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Eight different kids on the playground, right?

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And he sits there and he's like,

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Alright, all of you guys are going to be able to fight your opponents and then be able to like win in a

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Hey, Leo, thanks for the rate and thanks for helping with some coaching

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Technically I only narrated what I said publicly, but I did write him in private. It's a DM. I'm not showing it on stream

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I may have not said any of that

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You don't even know that I really said any of those words. I might be narrating something else something fake

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Congrats on the tournament, I've never watched Orca 3 before Harrod's grind.

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I still don't know what's happening but it was fun.

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Hey cool man, cool.

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Hopefully you enjoy some other future Orca 3 content sometime, sucks.

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Gets more fun when you understand it.

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Krabi, who do you consider the most influential orc players of all time, changing core gameplay

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and timings besides yourself of course?

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I don't think I was that influential in shaping orc play.

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because I'm hard to mimic because I'm a feeling space player more than you would think. I used to think I'm like analytical, steady player that scientifically improves his methods. It's not really it's vibe space.

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I think Focus is the most boring correct player in Orc that is the best to copy.

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I think he's one of the best to copy.

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But the most innovative, you know, the most like showing how to overcome challenges I think has been Lin.

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So I would recommend if you're going to learn, even Lin is often even too hard to understand for Noobs.

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it's a very high IQ play. But yes, I would first recommend to copy focus because he's

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so steady. What is focused to different from you? He just does one build. He's always just

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doing one build. So it's like perfect to learn from. He does it very well. Now focus has

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done dozens of different builds. But he's kind of like the Orc version of happy, or at least

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how happy he used to be because happy is extremely diverse now as well. But let's say the methodology

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is the same as happy where he tries to just iterate and improve on the same build all

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the time. What stops Orc from being able to fast expand like you said, Jumin and Andedken?

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I already said that man. I explained it in such detail. We don't have Narubian Tower.

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We don't have Arcane Tower, Tiny Grails also tier three, tier one you have nothing to expedite

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You don't have enough units, you can't creep in Orange Camp as Orc, you don't have Militia, Ancient of War or Ghouls and Skeletons.

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You have one unit, your tower is stuck and the expo is slow.

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I apologize, it's okay, that doesn't bother me, I don't mind explaining something again.

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Let's check out this game.

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Fight to the death.

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And it's like you had to sit there Tyler, and you had to use brass knuckles against a special ed kid.

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And then you're sitting there as you're like punching his head in his skull is caving in his brain

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And you're sitting there and you're like smiling to yourself

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But it's like big bobby's coming Tyler. You know what I mean? Like big bobby's coming muscular. Mike

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He's on the fucking way. So yeah, you might have been able to kill retarded brickey

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I was just warming up, I was keeping the hands hot against you.

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I hate watching Hera.

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The Hera has an answer here in game three.

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They've been so close.

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He had moments to close out these games.

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this is in this situation non-existent okay nice clip guys and Yamato is a

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the great player and he's a champion in his own right so no shame in losing but

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when you give it a roll and we're gonna make it happen we get the reverse week

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Krabi getting soda to hop on for the finals may be warm and fuzzy to see

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something about things coming full circle yeah it it felt right it felt fun

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and he brings that kind of clueless noob energy as well got a great voice and

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he's been part of the events and part of the inception of this tournament series

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it's fun yeah I'll start it again with cinema if not it's gonna be a tournament

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there's really no losing here walk in let's do it that's good it's good hey

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Hey Gribby, I started playing Lana recently because of you. Can you tell me what I can do against Undead stealing my bears?

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Yeah, Staff of Preservation, Triple Hero, Triple Staff. The first three that get possessed, you staff all three of them.

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And then you can also kill your own bears.

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Just kill them all and replace them with Mountain Giants.

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As the Night of it gets Undead, you should have an economic advantage.

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One bear, three bears max, no more than three bears, but probably one bear or two, you

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kill the rest, you replace them with mountain giants.

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I've got an earlier I asked how you would tackle balancing orc expansion mechanics in

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a way that it's good for orc without breaking the game.

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I think you're asking the wrong question.

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You're asking how can a duck live underground?

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How can a mole fly?

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What do we need to change so that every creature can live in every habitat?

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And I would say, no, let the creatures be what they are and play accordingly.

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All right?

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A mole is going to keep being blind and underground, and the duck is going to keep flying and swimming

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or floating on water anyway.

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Whatever the fuck ducks do, who knows?

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I think asymmetry is good.

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And I say, org can't fast expand, it's not a problem to be fixed. It's something to

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play around. Therefore, you need to become very skilled at stopping other people's expansion

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because everyone is macro-cheasing. That's what I think. So, orcs are moles? No, I think

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Orcs are ducks.

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I don't get it, it seems Yamato did the builders find one of my missing. Everything. And the fact that you need to ask, it's terrible.

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This is a terrible clip. A terrible boring clip.

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Some things you did bad, some things you did terrible.

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Yeah, that's a good clip

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That's a good clip some things you did bad some things you did terrible thank you coach

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That's a compliment

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Oh my god, I put it in

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Wait, is that a library?

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This is where the clip should have ended.

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Wait, is that a library?

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That's where it should end.

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I seriously couldn't ask for a better tournament, and a better Warcraft 3 run.

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I've said a lot, I meant every word.

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Um, it's time for this one last ladder game, guys, that's the top end here, and there's a shot of...

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Wait, he never did that. Did he?

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He never did that.

01:00:00.700 --> 01:00:02.220
No, I'm kidding.

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Very hair- very hair-esque that one.

01:00:05.580 --> 01:00:07.580
Boo! We want one more!

01:00:07.580 --> 01:00:09.580
You know, that's it for Warcraft 3 for now.

01:00:09.580 --> 01:00:14.380
No! Wait, he said he's gonna do a show match with Viper. He said that's not gonna happen anymore.

01:00:15.500 --> 01:00:17.020
The final week of the month.

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You promised!

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He's busy.

01:00:25.620 --> 01:00:26.620
Ahhhh.

01:00:26.620 --> 01:00:30.020
Oh, Hera replied to my secret inquiry.

01:00:30.020 --> 01:00:35.940
Oh man, I really wanted to, but unfortunately I just don't have time.

01:00:35.940 --> 01:00:41.580
Look at this, he took my prize money and now he doesn't have time for me anymore.

01:00:41.580 --> 01:00:45.780
Already back to grinding Awey to 10 games deep and catch Switchback.

01:00:45.780 --> 01:00:46.780
Wow.

01:00:46.780 --> 01:00:50.900
10 games deep I got something 10 deep for him

01:00:52.720 --> 01:00:55.380
No more money than no. Yeah, he's just like happy

01:00:58.020 --> 01:01:01.900
Okay, I remember you mentioned something about two days of free time we're champ I

01:01:02.780 --> 01:01:06.600
Probably take this Thursday off. I may start stream later to some days

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Ohhhhhh

01:01:44.200 --> 01:01:45.100
That's a bit...

01:01:45.100 --> 01:01:48.200
I mean, he's right from a competitive perspective

01:01:48.600 --> 01:01:49.900
But it's a bit rough

01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:55.800
Dude, that's fucking me shit, close the door

01:02:04.060 --> 01:02:05.460
That's hard to watch for me

01:02:06.600 --> 01:02:11.600
Anniversary. Well, it was one day after the anniversary. You don't need to be nice anymore, simply.

01:02:22.600 --> 01:02:23.600
Oh, it's fine then.

01:02:36.600 --> 01:02:41.720
Hold it very, very good, eh?

01:02:41.720 --> 01:02:43.840
Okay, are you giving me a lot of advice?

01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:45.160
No, I've seen this, I've seen this.

01:02:45.160 --> 01:02:47.960
You can stop clipping this chat.

01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:50.920
We've seen this like five times.

01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:55.120
We've seen all of those clips.

01:02:55.120 --> 01:02:56.920
We've seen those too.

01:02:56.920 --> 01:03:02.640
Same clips, over and over.

01:03:02.640 --> 01:03:05.160
Never show the same clip twice on this stream.

01:03:05.160 --> 01:03:08.920
We hate repetition here.

01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:09.920
The headliner.

01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:19.960
The first match of the clan war.

01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:20.960
This one?

01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:21.960
Rapgod?

01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:22.960
Gay, I didn't see this.

01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:23.960
Nightcrawler, who does the poison.

01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:24.960
I know, I didn't see this.

01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:35.120
I'm going to leash them back so half of the units can kind of juggle and then I don't

01:03:35.120 --> 01:03:36.560
don't take a lot of damage

01:03:36.560 --> 01:03:39.560
yeah i've watched this school

01:03:45.240 --> 01:03:46.560
and here has no gold

01:03:46.560 --> 01:03:47.560
Yamato has 1500

01:03:47.560 --> 01:03:50.560
you don't need to even creep bro

01:03:50.560 --> 01:03:52.560
why?

01:03:52.560 --> 01:03:54.200
come back

01:03:54.200 --> 01:03:55.400
make gyros

01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:58.000
it's not easy to make gyros

01:03:58.000 --> 01:03:59.360
it's easier

01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:02.840
make gyros please

01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:04.840
You don't need knights!

01:04:13.640 --> 01:04:15.640
We see destroyers! No!

01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:18.000
We see destroyers! Cancel your knight!

01:04:22.240 --> 01:04:24.240
I can't cast it anymore.

01:04:24.240 --> 01:04:26.240
I can't cast it anymore.

01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:28.320
Guys...

01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:34.320
A lot of people were asking for me to bring on Death Note for casting.

01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:38.320
And people were trying to pressure me.

01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:41.320
I love these contributions.

01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:46.320
But if something goes wrong, he can't cast anymore.

01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:09.040
I wanted to catch some of the 2v2 streams, the 2v2 or 4v4.

01:05:09.040 --> 01:05:15.080
I've seen some of the perspective, I think Tyler1 perspective via Knopfstream, but haven't

01:05:15.080 --> 01:05:22.040
seen the other side, Team Omega.

01:05:22.040 --> 01:05:27.880
This day this one here

01:05:34.120 --> 01:05:36.120
It must have means all of this

01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:47.440
Now it's been killing everything can finally do his job. It's everything

01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:51.840
Yeah, the stream stops fucking warcraft

01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:09.240
I think I came easy though, it's like a beauty

01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:15.480
She's not resigning

01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:21.840
Bro this base is a freaking mess bro. Oh my goodness

01:06:33.720 --> 01:06:38.820
Grubby the worst part of the tournament was leaving three human players to talk about our shitty human races

01:06:40.080 --> 01:06:45.540
Well, I stepped away, you know, you know what they say when the cat leaves the kitchen the mice are dancing on the table

01:06:45.540 --> 01:06:48.020
Is she not resigning?

01:06:48.020 --> 01:06:49.020
Oh!

01:06:49.020 --> 01:06:50.020
Yeah, this is...

01:06:50.020 --> 01:06:51.020
2v2.

01:06:51.020 --> 01:06:52.020
Yeah.

01:06:52.020 --> 01:06:53.020
Full army of...

01:06:53.020 --> 01:06:54.020
Oh, I want to see 4v4.

01:06:54.020 --> 01:06:55.020
Overclose or something?

01:06:55.020 --> 01:06:56.020
Button.

01:06:56.020 --> 01:06:57.020
What arcs?

01:06:57.020 --> 01:06:59.520
I don't know what their bats are.

01:06:59.520 --> 01:07:04.860
So what we have to do, I think, is instead of saying like the actual names of units,

01:07:04.860 --> 01:07:10.260
let's just say tanks, ranged, and flying.

01:07:10.260 --> 01:07:15.220
Because if we do that, then we don't have to overcomplicate it with information that

01:07:15.220 --> 01:07:21.380
we're not familiar with because if we have clear communications, we auto win. Does that make sense?

01:07:21.380 --> 01:07:25.540
Okay, but is like a worm a flying or is that a range? Because it's like a range flying. Like

01:07:25.540 --> 01:07:28.820
what do I call that one? That's true. It's a flying. That's a flying. That's a flying. Okay,

01:07:28.820 --> 01:07:35.780
okay. So like a knight is a tank, but what is a tank called? A tank is anything that goes up in

01:07:35.780 --> 01:07:44.700
tanks. So even my ghouls would be tanks. Okay, ghouls are tanks. I'll just yell when

01:07:44.700 --> 01:07:50.820
I'm entangling. What a horrible system! Exactly. Like, guys, I'm telling you, we just keep

01:07:50.820 --> 01:07:55.420
it simple. Literally just like, don't test. We need your fucking fine. And then I'm like,

01:07:55.420 --> 01:07:58.740
alright, do we have tanks? And then one of you is like, yeah, we have tanks. Alright,

01:07:58.740 --> 01:08:02.460
and then we just send in. Because they're going to be there like, bro, I got my Billy

01:08:02.460 --> 01:08:11.500
Maju fucking entangler 45,000 turbo range. Let's chain this and it's like no one's gonna know what

01:08:11.500 --> 01:08:17.020
the fuck is happening. So here comes its insta when that is what if you say go and go and have

01:08:17.020 --> 01:08:20.460
tanks and it's two goals in the front line and then we all get baited and we lose the game.

01:08:21.420 --> 01:08:26.540
Oh, man, it is what it is. The thanks for that. I'm really confused how we split the map right

01:08:26.540 --> 01:08:31.820
now I thought it was be it would be bottom and down but it seems like it's left and right.

01:08:31.820 --> 01:08:33.820
Do you see the color from...

01:08:34.380 --> 01:08:36.380
Uh, actually I'm not sure...

01:08:36.380 --> 01:08:38.380
What are you looking at right now, Maxime?

01:08:38.380 --> 01:08:39.880
Cause I'm interested in that color.

01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:42.600
Are we split from left to right on this map, or from bottom to top?

01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:44.600
We're in the game, so we can see the map.

01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:47.000
Yeah, you have to go into the...

01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:48.000
Homewreck!

01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:50.800
No, no, you can go into lobby, but...

01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:52.300
Gravy already posted it.

01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:56.960
Button right next to the map.

01:08:57.760 --> 01:08:58.260
Shit!

01:08:58.260 --> 01:08:59.760
Oh, okay. Like one second.

01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:01.300
Here we go.

01:09:01.820 --> 01:09:07.600
Lock in lock in lock in focus. W's in the chat. Come on energy, please

01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:12.800
Yeah, I got kicked out too

01:09:13.280 --> 01:09:16.480
And my this got also done. I just got kicked out too

01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:26.980
Guys I legitimately like that sound now the first time I heard Tyler or Dante's

01:09:26.980 --> 01:09:31.780
pick out their mic, I thought, what a terrible noise.

01:09:31.780 --> 01:09:35.180
And now I actually think it's ASMR to me.

01:09:35.180 --> 01:09:36.740
It's endearing now.

01:09:36.740 --> 01:09:39.620
You will either have this switch up or you won't.

01:09:39.620 --> 01:09:42.900
If you dislike them as people, you will keep thinking,

01:09:42.900 --> 01:09:45.580
oh, loud is funny, what idiots, such idiots.

01:09:45.580 --> 01:09:48.520
But it's actually quite funny.

01:09:50.540 --> 01:09:53.680
Or not even just funny, familiar, comfortable.

01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:58.680
Not this honest question, why don't you get a better mic?

01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:01.680
I think it's a signature one, friend.

01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:06.680
No, so the reason why is because I can hear myself in my own headset when I talk because I have this thing called...

01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:11.680
I hope you start doing it, grubby, smiley face.

01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:18.680
The audio feedback, and the problem is that if I get a better mic, then it sounds like passable in my ears,

01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:22.080
But when my mic sounds like this, it like agitates me.

01:10:22.180 --> 01:10:25.080
So it allows me to be like higher energy and more entertaining because I'm

01:10:25.080 --> 01:10:26.180
just always like pissed off.

01:10:28.480 --> 01:10:29.680
You have issues, bro.

01:10:30.180 --> 01:10:30.880
You have issues.

01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:32.680
It's kind of interesting though.

01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:33.680
It kind of works for you.

01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:35.080
Like, I think people like that.

01:10:36.080 --> 01:10:39.980
Dude, listen, Hera, the only issue I have is that right now your name is Hera.

01:10:40.180 --> 01:10:43.280
By the end of this game, you're going to be him, uh, because you're going to

01:10:43.280 --> 01:10:44.280
fucking carry this shit.

01:10:44.280 --> 01:10:44.980
Are you ready for it?

01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:46.580
Oh shit, nevermind.

01:10:46.580 --> 01:10:46.980
Okay.

01:10:47.180 --> 01:10:47.680
That's weird.

01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:52.120
He's gonna say I'm gonna try to take a mega cam first.

01:10:52.120 --> 01:10:57.680
Yeah, I mean if you wanna do it bro, you go for it, I'm just gonna be fucking chillin'.

01:10:57.680 --> 01:10:58.680
Ah.

01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:02.360
Don't those things use a philosopher?

01:11:02.360 --> 01:11:04.280
Hey, maybe he is.

01:11:04.280 --> 01:11:09.160
Maybe you don't need to be right to be a philosopher.

01:11:09.160 --> 01:11:11.520
Anyone can philosophize man, come on.

01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:12.520
He is.

01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:16.600
He can take like 12 hours, that's the problem.

01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:18.600
No way really?

01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:21.200
Not that long, but it feels like that.

01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:24.400
Oh my gosh, we have the fucking late game...

01:11:24.400 --> 01:11:25.600
But you're used to it!

01:11:26.400 --> 01:11:30.800
Yeah, we play in China like for eight hours a game or something?

01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:32.600
It was a four hour game, yeah, the longest in history.

01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:33.600
It was insane!

01:11:34.200 --> 01:11:35.200
We could watch it the whole day.

01:11:35.200 --> 01:11:36.800
He played a four hour game?

01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:37.800
That was a bang.

01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:42.400
I'm so sorry for everyone else, because they have to wait...

01:11:43.200 --> 01:11:44.400
10 million hours.

01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:46.400
Yeah, scams.

01:11:46.400 --> 01:11:55.400
Yeah, I will try to take two greens, that would be awesome when I get level 2 because of the aura.

01:11:59.400 --> 01:12:00.400
Yeah, true.

01:12:01.400 --> 01:12:03.400
Alright, I'm gonna start scouting to see what the fuck is up.

01:12:04.400 --> 01:12:05.400
Oh, no.

01:12:06.400 --> 01:12:08.400
Guys, I have bad news, Tyros being a fucking piece of shit.

01:12:13.400 --> 01:12:15.400
Thanks, good coms, good coms, not this.

01:12:16.400 --> 01:12:19.400
I'm counter-chasing him, I guess.

01:12:19.400 --> 01:12:22.400
I'm counter-chasing him!

01:12:27.400 --> 01:12:29.400
The camps are a bit harder than usual.

01:12:30.400 --> 01:12:33.400
Yeah, but they gave more XP. It's like a good thing.

01:12:33.400 --> 01:13:00.280
I'm curious how the Age of Empires 2 scene that have a game that is extremely ASMR how

01:13:00.280 --> 01:13:06.540
they feel about Dante's because a we to soundscape is very comfortable and they

01:13:06.540 --> 01:13:10.720
have herra than switching to warcraft 3 which is still comfortable but there's a

01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:18.280
lot of like I guess under this more ASMR than than orc orc is like yes sir yes sir

01:13:18.280 --> 01:13:22.300
yes my lord you don't know big it's like it's a little bit more campy a bit

01:13:22.300 --> 01:13:29.060
cheesy but under this pretty cool there it is there it is

01:13:30.280 --> 01:13:37.800
I couldn't send Dante's he's an acquired taste I didn't like his mic first time I heard him

01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:42.640
But then when I hung out a bit with him in Warcraft of World World of Warcraft

01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:47.360
I got along with him quite well. I would say it was fun

01:13:49.320 --> 01:13:55.000
All right, I'm making two defense. I definitely need level two first though. So this is raw

01:13:55.560 --> 01:13:58.680
Yeah, I mean like listen, I should be like kind of Loki chill

01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:00.680
Okay, I got.

01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:03.680
Gaby, will you play Mechanicus 2 when it comes out later this month?

01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:05.680
It's like Warhammer XCOM.

01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:07.680
Okay, that sounds like a fucking sell to me.

01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:09.680
That sounds really freaking good.

01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:10.680
I'd love to play that.

01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:14.680
However, I need to prepare for the AOE 2 tournament.

01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:18.680
So can we put that one on hold?

01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:27.680
I'm gonna just wishlist it, okay?

01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:38.680
Mechanicus 2, Warhammer 40k, Mechanicus 2.

01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:50.680
I just threw up in my mouth.

01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:53.680
A little bit of acid reflux.

01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:57.680
It's very acidic.

01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:16.520
Not because of the game.

01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:18.920
I don't like the narration.

01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:21.640
I don't want them to tell me who people are.

01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:25.480
I just want to have Dante say if it's a tank, DPS, or flying.

01:15:25.480 --> 01:15:29.040
Let's see release date 21 May, okay

01:15:32.320 --> 01:15:38.880
Uh-huh mobile game UI guys this game looks like a mobile game. Hey, it doesn't look a bit like XCOM

01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:40.980
Yeah, this looks super for super fun. I

01:15:42.200 --> 01:15:47.680
Love I love everything about this love everything about this wish list it. Thank you for the recommend

01:15:55.480 --> 01:15:57.880
I actually bought XCOM on mobile.

01:15:58.480 --> 01:16:03.480
It's a very heavy, precise game to play on a 6-inch screen.

01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:07.880
Yeah, I... No, I...

01:16:08.780 --> 01:16:13.080
Yeah, XCOM 2 is on mobile. I have it there and I don't think it's a good idea.

01:16:13.680 --> 01:16:15.880
I have a 2 now. I can help.

01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:19.280
I tried playing it and it's just unplayable.

01:16:19.280 --> 01:16:21.680
It's annoying. Yeah, he's like harassing me, too.

01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:28.680
I get so easy to misclick and then you need to load.

01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:30.680
I gotta go creep, I can't protect you right now.

01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:31.680
Yeah, it's fun.

01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:32.680
Alright.

01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:33.680
I'm used to being on my own, bro.

01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:34.680
I'm the fucking mone ranger.

01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:35.680
Did it hit a wolf?

01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:36.680
Did you get a kill?

01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:37.680
Did you refound?

01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:38.680
No, I kept it.

01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:39.680
There you go.

01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:45.680
I thought maybe sometime I'll be on a plane and I'll rather do that than read like the

01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:46.680
airplane magazines.

01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:53.320
Okay, here I am, but to be fair, I'll probably play Slade, Despire or Bellattro more than

01:16:53.320 --> 01:17:01.400
like freaking XCOM and try to like move a unit to this hex and then get the perspective

01:17:01.400 --> 01:17:04.200
on this one. It's like, oh, come on, man.

01:17:04.200 --> 01:17:06.200
We want to go to the other side.

01:17:06.200 --> 01:17:11.200
Do you want to attack? Yeah, I'm with you now, actually. I was just creeping behind.

01:17:11.200 --> 01:17:14.760
Yeah, we have no camps, so we can fuck up death.

01:17:14.760 --> 01:17:16.760
I'm down, I'm so down.

01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:17.760
Whisk, whisk, whisk, kill that.

01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:18.760
I'll be coming in a second, Jack.

01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:19.760
A second one there is.

01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:20.760
Nice, good shot, good shot.

01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:21.760
No, no, I'm good bro, I'm good.

01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:23.760
This guy's getting his mouth shitting right now.

01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:26.760
It's been a fucking talk about fiasco inside of there.

01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:27.760
Amazing, amazing.

01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:28.760
Den Tango one?

01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:29.760
Yeah.

01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:30.760
Okay.

01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:32.760
I don't have a death.

01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:34.760
I don't hear pox at all.

01:17:34.760 --> 01:17:36.760
This one, some tangos.

01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:38.760
Actually it's gonna die.

01:17:38.760 --> 01:17:40.760
Okay, we fight this easy, we fight this easy.

01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:43.760
I'm gonna entangle another one, suck it.

01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:46.760
I will shoot the... the... the... the... the Rangers.

01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:48.760
Now the Water Elementor, Water Elementor.

01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:49.760
Yeah.

01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:51.760
I'm gonna back up a bit.

01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:52.760
Okay.

01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:54.760
I'm gonna come back, I'm gonna back up.

01:17:57.760 --> 01:17:59.760
I got a couple kills and I'm gonna come back up here.

01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:00.760
Okay.

01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:01.760
I cover you a bit.

01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:03.760
But, uh, it's definitely a sheet.

01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:05.760
I don't have that much.

01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:08.760
Yeah, we're just running chute.

01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:09.760
Yeah.

01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:10.760
You will see my mana though, that's the problem.

01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:11.760
That's the issue, yeah.

01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:12.760
Yeah.

01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:17.760
I'm happy with the disengager. Come back in G3 right away.

01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:21.760
Nice G3 stack.

01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:25.760
Yeah, I'm gonna wait for Frenzy most of the year.

01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:28.760
Okay, let's take the camp here.

01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:30.760
Is there a camp here that I can take?

01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:32.760
No, no, no. Left of you.

01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:34.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:35.760
This is a hard one.

01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:40.760
That one is insane. But I can tank it.

01:18:40.760 --> 01:18:44.360
Let the rifleman tank it from me, so they can heal.

01:18:44.360 --> 01:18:46.760
Okay, box, I'm fine with another hero!

01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:53.160
Let the rifleman tank it!

01:18:54.160 --> 01:18:57.160
Tanking 40 normal damage to the medium armor rifle.

01:18:57.160 --> 01:18:58.360
Joking, I can't heal.

01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:02.760
I can heal it, joking, can't heal.

01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:03.960
Enough now, let's do it.

01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:04.760
No worries.

01:19:04.760 --> 01:19:06.760
I don't know where you can have it.

01:19:08.360 --> 01:19:10.360
I'm gonna run around.

01:19:10.360 --> 01:19:12.360
I will not even farm anymore

01:19:13.840 --> 01:19:18.320
Now we just go harassed. I love that Tyler went fuck it support wins games during the team games

01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:22.200
Is that what he said cuz he actually did play full support?

01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:28.080
Yeah, I'm just holding the fort down right now guys. I'm okay. Just holding the fucking fort down as we speak. You're doing great

01:19:28.080 --> 01:19:32.280
I'm gonna come your side. I'm gonna come harass the DK. He's cross-mapping

01:19:36.080 --> 01:19:38.920
I think it's like a 2v2 you have to stomp there

01:19:40.360 --> 01:19:46.440
Look, Maxim knew that you're supposed to play 2v2 twice, but Hera is breaking the rules.

01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:52.260
Right now I'm waiting, right now I'm waiting. So DK has nothing to do besides come over to help, I guess.

01:19:55.120 --> 01:19:57.440
I will play my side, of course, with statues and whatnot.

01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:01.780
No, you literally can't holy light your ghouls, Iris.

01:20:01.780 --> 01:20:15.700
I've been watching that AT&T Annihilator Cup a little bit guys.

01:20:15.700 --> 01:20:19.020
The League match.

01:20:19.020 --> 01:20:20.660
Is it a different channel?

01:20:20.660 --> 01:20:23.300
Is it Lutwyng that uploads it?

01:20:23.300 --> 01:20:26.020
Oh yeah, it's Lutwyng.

01:20:26.020 --> 01:20:28.020
Oh Lutwyng is where he does his gaming.

01:20:28.020 --> 01:20:31.540
Lutwyng is like mainstream.

01:20:31.540 --> 01:20:38.260
tournament was so fun. It looks fun. So they played League of Legends and another another

01:20:38.260 --> 01:20:44.320
time they're playing the new Riot fighting game to XKO. Then they have Counter-Strike

01:20:44.320 --> 01:20:54.500
and then they have one more. I forgot what Street Fighter I guess. And it's kind of cool

01:20:54.500 --> 01:20:59.200
like this will be fun kind of league to play like with a bunch of streamers as well. Basically

01:20:59.200 --> 01:21:04.480
same idea as my Tony, where you have streamers like learn a game for a short time and then

01:21:04.480 --> 01:21:11.800
play. I think it's a really cool Twitch meta. Oh, Call of Duty, yeah. But they've been doing

01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:21.680
it for a few years, I think. How many people were there to play League competitively? I

01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:27.320
think they have like 20 streamers, like four captains drafted 16 players. So you have like

01:21:27.320 --> 01:21:29.220
like five people per team, four teams.

01:21:34.820 --> 01:21:36.420
Yeah, Roku, we should try to say,

01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:38.520
oh, it's eight captains, 40 players.

01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:41.520
You need to have the training arc watching Jinxie League

01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:42.720
tournament was painful.

01:21:43.020 --> 01:21:45.520
Yeah, so Jinxie just did a one day event, right?

01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:47.620
And he allowed people to practice for however long

01:21:47.620 --> 01:21:48.420
they wanted to.

01:21:49.220 --> 01:21:51.820
But it was not like orchestrated practice.

01:21:52.520 --> 01:21:55.920
But look, you call it painful, but that still had

01:21:55.920 --> 01:21:57.120
a million viewers, right?

01:21:57.320 --> 01:22:07.320
So, for all we know that that's exactly what his goals were. His dream, his goals. It was fun, it was so good.

01:22:13.320 --> 01:22:23.320
Gobi, now that the tournament is over, would you mention any of the folks you considered for the tournament that ultimately didn't happen or rather not put a spotlight on them? I'm just curious.

01:22:23.320 --> 01:22:31.840
Well, look, I think I'm not going to mention everyone, but let's just take a look here,

01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:32.840
right?

01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:37.960
If they have an English title and they have a decent viewership, there's a chance I approach

01:22:37.960 --> 01:22:38.960
them.

01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:43.560
But then again, I see people now that I didn't see online when I scoured the category.

01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:46.800
I didn't see Drittat, Natinat.

01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:52.080
No way for you I knew him from the sauerkraut event.

01:22:52.080 --> 01:22:58.180
I just knew of him, but like you see I was looking for League streamers most of these are not English titles

01:22:59.160 --> 01:23:03.320
Now I could I could of course get a Koisarada or

01:23:04.040 --> 01:23:08.840
Shit the packs nimity pter Bobo just I have no idea what any of this is Chinese

01:23:08.840 --> 01:23:14.660
I thought maybe I should just approach the Chinese streamer or something, but I thought communication could be just

01:23:15.160 --> 01:23:19.880
Horrible chair this when we're when we're did you ask no way?

01:23:19.880 --> 01:23:24.880
Yeah, I did ask but I think message club lost or something

01:23:30.320 --> 01:23:32.320
Yeah

01:23:35.240 --> 01:23:40.280
This fucking X you could filter English. Yeah

01:23:40.280 --> 01:23:41.280
Yeah.

01:23:41.280 --> 01:23:42.280
Well, overshare.

01:23:42.280 --> 01:23:43.280
He saw it.

01:23:43.280 --> 01:23:49.280
He said he doesn't want to practice as much.

01:23:49.280 --> 01:23:50.280
Uh-huh.

01:23:50.280 --> 01:23:54.720
Oh, so he said on stream that he declined.

01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:58.280
No, I said he can't practice working three because his viewership is purely leak.

01:23:58.280 --> 01:23:59.280
Yeah.

01:23:59.280 --> 01:24:02.400
No, that makes sense.

01:24:02.400 --> 01:24:05.240
Many communities are very insular.

01:24:05.240 --> 01:24:09.080
If you're as a streamer building your community on a single game, then you're going to have

01:24:09.080 --> 01:24:12.120
a very insular community that doesn't follow you anywhere, no

01:24:12.120 --> 01:24:15.040
matter what anyone says. So like, there's always going to be

01:24:15.040 --> 01:24:18.200
people that say, I'd watch you play anything, and you make

01:24:18.200 --> 01:24:21.200
anything fun. Okay, cool. But you're the minority, sadly.

01:24:21.520 --> 01:24:22.600
You're like one in 10.

01:24:26.520 --> 01:24:32.840
Inso what insular, insular, like insulated, like it's only

01:24:32.840 --> 01:24:35.880
there but not outside like a fridge is insular, it's cold

01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:37.120
inside but warm outside.

01:24:39.080 --> 01:24:48.800
If you do variety, very long term and you have made it fun, then you can have a very

01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:52.440
stable audience following you to many games.

01:24:52.440 --> 01:24:54.400
Like you'll have like a certain minimum.

01:24:54.400 --> 01:25:00.480
But if you've ever only done Warcraft, ever only done Starcraft, ever only done League

01:25:00.480 --> 01:25:05.720
of Legends or Dota 2 and you switch, you're going to go to 10%.

01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:10.560
Hey, thank you for the sub, Tutsi.

01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:13.200
What made the differences?

01:25:13.200 --> 01:25:15.040
Does Tyler1 count as variety?

01:25:15.040 --> 01:25:23.640
Tyler1 might be higher on variety than his main league.

01:25:23.640 --> 01:25:27.960
I think Tyler1 is in a kind of position where when he does certain varieties, it's actually

01:25:27.960 --> 01:25:30.400
going to be higher than his standard.

01:25:30.400 --> 01:25:38.400
He has transcended it in some way, but also lower on Warcraft than his League.

01:25:38.400 --> 01:25:46.400
I think if Titer 1 goes outside and does something, it's going to be higher than League.

01:25:46.400 --> 01:25:49.400
And most people don't have that.

01:25:49.400 --> 01:25:59.400
Krabby, I love how Hera finally plays the slaughterhouse in the back in the very last game.

01:25:59.400 --> 01:26:03.160
Gribby, you're very lucky in that regard, switching to different games.

01:26:03.160 --> 01:26:04.160
Your timing was very good.

01:26:04.160 --> 01:26:06.680
You were in a Warcraft 3 box for a long time, too, no?

01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:16.160
I still think Warcraft is my main audience space, but I have decent variety, better than

01:26:16.160 --> 01:26:22.800
Insular, though not full-flex.

01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:24.040
Is there some place?

01:26:24.040 --> 01:26:28.120
But look, it's also just quality of content thing, right?

01:26:28.120 --> 01:26:36.320
I think if I if I grind high-level tryhard Warcraft, the quality of content is just better than if I miss everyone in Counter Strike.

01:26:36.820 --> 01:26:42.580
Like, it's not even just about our people rooting for me to do cool, different new content.

01:26:42.580 --> 01:26:44.220
Sometimes the content just sucks.

01:26:44.920 --> 01:26:46.280
It's not about loyalty.

01:26:46.280 --> 01:26:48.880
It's just it has to be fun.

01:26:49.120 --> 01:26:50.320
You have to be able to make it fun.

01:26:50.320 --> 01:27:12.320
I'm here, I'm here, I can't help it, I'm trying to take an expo, what do you wanna do Maxim on your side, I think you need your DK, if your DK is also here then we can fuck him up, I'll just have a DK, I'm not sure if it's a good idea but we're gonna kill headhunters so it's kinda weird

01:27:12.320 --> 01:27:16.820
You know what, fuck it, just come here then, come here, just come to the thing, help me take this back.

01:27:16.820 --> 01:27:20.820
Why not invite SC2 GM masters players who have never played Warcraft 3?

01:27:20.820 --> 01:27:23.820
They all struggle with content and we would help them play a better game.

01:27:25.820 --> 01:27:29.820
Hey, if they think it's better, they can just switch by themselves, no?

01:27:29.820 --> 01:27:31.820
No, that's good though, that's true, true.

01:27:31.820 --> 01:27:35.320
Starcraft 2 sucks, Warcraft owns, why aren't they all just switching?

01:27:35.320 --> 01:27:39.320
If we just help them switch, then they can all discover green ambassadors.

01:27:39.320 --> 01:27:40.820
No, it's true, it makes sense.

01:27:40.820 --> 01:27:44.820
The thing is, many people that play SC2 have made Warcraft 3 before.

01:27:45.820 --> 01:27:49.820
Like, almost all of them did. So, it's difficult to find noobs.

01:27:49.820 --> 01:27:50.820
That's well.

01:27:50.820 --> 01:27:53.820
Okay, I come with DK then. I come with DK, Stature's coming too.

01:27:53.820 --> 01:27:55.820
I was talking to Gunnar a couple of weeks ago.

01:27:55.820 --> 01:27:58.820
Yeah, can you call him by his real name? He said he was down.

01:27:58.820 --> 01:28:01.820
I thought it would be awesome if you could get Gunnar to be in a tournament.

01:28:01.820 --> 01:28:05.820
Yeah, I love Gunnar, but he's a Dota player, so he was not allowed to join.

01:28:05.820 --> 01:28:08.820
Thanks to Hera though, we have broken one curse.

01:28:08.820 --> 01:28:14.820
We have not just broken the Dota 2 curse by not inviting any Dota 2 players.

01:28:14.820 --> 01:28:18.820
And it's not a curse by the way, you can call it a blessing.

01:28:18.820 --> 01:28:24.820
But let's say if patterns persist too much, we don't have a human winner.

01:28:24.820 --> 01:28:29.820
And we don't have a Dota 2 pro winner now.

01:28:29.820 --> 01:28:33.820
So everything is possible and allowed again in the future.

01:28:33.820 --> 01:28:44.720
Now what I need to do, if I ever hold a tournament again, I need to rig it so that an orc or

01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:47.220
a night elf will win.

01:28:47.220 --> 01:28:55.700
So I'm going to invite 7 Mary Mabies and Sunglitters and then I'm going to invite Flash and put

01:28:55.700 --> 01:28:57.700
him on Orc.

01:28:57.700 --> 01:29:02.700
Yeah, yeah, that's fine. I'll just wait.

01:29:02.700 --> 01:29:07.700
For me, it's super important to fight now. That's my strongest face.

01:29:07.700 --> 01:29:11.700
Free thing here?

01:29:11.700 --> 01:29:14.700
I can't do Tyler in Cybermary, maybe.

01:29:14.700 --> 01:29:19.700
There is one future path there that scares me.

01:29:19.700 --> 01:29:24.700
There's many destinies that would lead to a happy ending,

01:29:24.700 --> 01:29:27.500
landing and there's one terrible to behold destiny.

01:29:27.500 --> 01:29:28.500
You call me?

01:29:28.500 --> 01:29:29.500
Yeah.

01:29:29.500 --> 01:29:30.500
Not good.

01:29:30.500 --> 01:29:31.500
Oh shit.

01:29:31.500 --> 01:29:35.260
The big one is like super, super dangerous.

01:29:35.260 --> 01:29:38.140
I think that your lips can maybe tank it and you're human.

01:29:38.140 --> 01:29:39.140
Yeah, I call you.

01:29:39.140 --> 01:29:40.140
I call you.

01:29:40.140 --> 01:29:41.140
I don't know.

01:29:41.140 --> 01:29:42.140
Or maybe I can do it.

01:29:42.140 --> 01:29:43.660
Tyler losing tomorrow.

01:29:43.660 --> 01:29:44.660
Yeah.

01:29:44.660 --> 01:29:48.300
Tyler was saying yesterday he wouldn't have minded playing Night Elf.

01:29:48.300 --> 01:29:49.300
Oh.

01:29:49.300 --> 01:29:50.300
I mean, I'm better.

01:29:50.300 --> 01:29:51.300
Can you do it?

01:29:51.300 --> 01:29:52.300
No, not my question.

01:29:52.300 --> 01:30:09.340
I was just afraid to talk to Tyler one about race.

01:30:09.340 --> 01:30:11.580
What elo has Tyler hit in this game?

01:30:11.580 --> 01:30:12.580
1500 plus?

01:30:12.580 --> 01:30:18.060
Tyler might like the game more if he tried out the other races and got some perspective

01:30:18.060 --> 01:30:27.300
pros and cons. I think if Titan one tried other races, he would either confirm his bias

01:30:27.300 --> 01:30:35.340
that Orc has it the hardest, even though he dislikes Orc mid or two, or he would finally

01:30:35.340 --> 01:30:44.380
learn that everyone has their troubles. And he will say, GG well played, sir. Nice night

01:30:44.380 --> 01:30:48.440
health play while marketed on the parlor than rifles I know that couldn't have been easy

01:30:48.440 --> 01:30:57.680
nice well fuck oh yes execute the good ending nice anyway you live it to it it's good

01:30:57.680 --> 01:31:08.000
you guys want just push him back or like I think Aaron I should push push south we

01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:13.600
fucked the night off up I'll just I'll hold the front guys I'll be the first line of fucking

01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:24.560
the fans as we speak. Yeah, you have the expo, we can break it. Easy, easy, that's free.

01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:35.080
We can fuck up the itune of war. Who surprised you the most on the tournament? I've had

01:31:35.080 --> 01:31:43.440
surprise from Hera, simply Dante's. I think those three were the biggest

01:31:43.440 --> 01:31:50.760
surprises. Simply Hera and Dante's. No Yamato surprise. I could tell he was doing

01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:59.480
well for some time. For a while I thought Yamato's gonna win and then in like the

01:31:59.480 --> 01:32:06.480
the last day before the tournament, I thought maybe heroins.

01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:14.600
On Saturday morning before the tournament, I predicted the top 4 exactly correct.

01:32:14.600 --> 01:32:18.600
Or was it Sunday morning?

01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:19.840
Sunday morning.

01:32:19.840 --> 01:32:23.560
I will try to suck the second one.

01:32:23.560 --> 01:32:28.520
I will banish at level 2, then you can, when you see someone a little bit greenish, you

01:32:28.520 --> 01:32:32.640
focus them down with your spells I think new king is like that I wish Mary maybe

01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:39.200
played another hundred ladder games if she did I think she can get top six

01:32:39.200 --> 01:32:43.720
that's the best threat for us because he's doing the same with my with my

01:32:43.720 --> 01:32:53.760
pal our guy yeah true true yeah we can double nuke kill the building or the

01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:58.760
girls, weird girls, kill the weird girls, focus.

01:32:58.760 --> 01:32:59.760
Oh, he did me?

01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:01.760
Oh, it's the other side, it's Tyler, Tyler, it's okay.

01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:03.760
Yeah, focus, I got it.

01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:05.760
It's Tyler, it's Tyler, he's such a bad boy.

01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:07.760
Nice, nice, nice, nice.

01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:09.760
Back, back a little bit.

01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:12.760
There's a lot of people here, there's a lot of people here.

01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:14.760
Yep, back up.

01:33:14.760 --> 01:33:25.640
Okay, I think we can fight still, that's my strongest face, so we have to fight all the

01:33:25.640 --> 01:33:26.640
time.

01:33:26.640 --> 01:33:27.640
I love it, I love it.

01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:28.640
I'm going into this base right now.

01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:29.640
Okay, whose base?

01:33:29.640 --> 01:33:30.640
Whose base?

01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:32.120
I'm going here, so you guys stay there.

01:33:32.120 --> 01:33:33.120
Okay, good, good.

01:33:33.120 --> 01:33:34.120
I think that's my boon.

01:33:34.120 --> 01:33:38.360
Probably just curious, is it not normal to have a bracket resets in a Warcraft 3 tournament?

01:33:38.360 --> 01:33:41.960
Felt like Yamato got the short end of a stick a bit by losing the tournament with only one

01:33:41.960 --> 01:33:42.960
loss.

01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:53.600
can talk about that a little bit. It is going to be a large soapbox story, though. We're

01:33:53.600 --> 01:34:04.640
going to need to bust out the notepad. Double elimination format. If you boil down to a

01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:12.360
single rule, it is everyone may lose a series once without being eliminated. This is the

01:34:12.360 --> 01:34:16.920
purest interpretation of double elimination, which means, let's say if it's best of three,

01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:27.240
it means grand finals, winner bracket guy, 2-1 or 2-0 to win,

01:34:30.440 --> 01:34:39.160
and the lower bracket guy, 2-1 or 2-0, x2 to win. This is the purest form, and people call this

01:34:39.160 --> 01:34:48.640
bracket reset, even though this is a stupid name, because it is not a reset. It is literally

01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:53.880
the opposite. You're resetting nothing. It is just double elimination. But this is what

01:34:53.880 --> 01:35:02.080
people use the word bracket reset, and it's stupid. It's true double limb. This is true

01:35:02.080 --> 01:35:28.600
double a limb. Okay. Then what is good about this? pros. It's pure. It's double limb. It's

01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:43.800
fair for players. What's bad about it? Viewers get confused. Why does he need to win again?

01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:53.280
That's so unfair. He just won against him already. And the answer is because he dropped

01:35:53.280 --> 01:35:56.980
to LB and it's a pure double elimination system.

01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:00.320
But he's really tired.

01:36:00.320 --> 01:36:03.160
He just had a long run in LB.

01:36:03.160 --> 01:36:05.840
And then the answer is tired?

01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:07.520
How do you know?

01:36:09.560 --> 01:36:10.800
Why not warming up?

01:36:11.960 --> 01:36:15.840
If you run series after series after series and you win,

01:36:16.960 --> 01:36:18.600
series after series, you warmed up,

01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:21.000
you're like amp the fuck up, you've got momentum,

01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:25.800
And this is guy sitting on his cold hand in the winter bracket, seeing you tear through the lower bracket.

01:36:26.440 --> 01:36:29.400
The tired argument is a feeling based argument.

01:36:29.520 --> 01:36:31.960
You don't know whether a player is tired or not.

01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:39.600
All you know is that it's pure double limb, uh, where someone has to win a two series in a row when he comes from LB, which is

01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:42.320
fair because he dropped the lower bracket because he sucks, right?

01:36:42.360 --> 01:36:43.480
So it's punishment.

01:36:44.400 --> 01:36:47.800
And so this argument always happens where people are confused.

01:36:47.960 --> 01:36:48.200
Okay.

01:36:48.200 --> 01:36:50.280
So there's viewer confusion.

01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:57.800
All right. Another one is you'll play on the same maps twice.

01:37:01.400 --> 01:37:05.880
All right, because you'll win on Echo and Northern Isles and then you need to do it again.

01:37:05.880 --> 01:37:15.560
So there's a sense of repetition, a sense of deja vu repetition. Also, it's a little anti-hype.

01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:25.560
If you assume that both players are equally strong, then the win chance is 50-50.

01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:32.560
Win chance for one map for either player is 0.5.

01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:39.560
When you calculate the expected chance for a player to win,

01:37:39.560 --> 01:37:49.320
The upper bracket guy has 75% chance to win the whole tournament by that time and 25%

01:37:49.320 --> 01:37:50.320
for the lower bracket.

01:37:50.320 --> 01:37:52.800
This is just the statistics.

01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:56.240
It is literally a 75-25 advantage.

01:37:56.240 --> 01:38:02.640
Now that's fair because the upper bracket guy never dropped to the lower bracket and

01:38:02.640 --> 01:38:04.100
the loser bracket guy did.

01:38:04.100 --> 01:38:05.100
So he sucks.

01:38:05.100 --> 01:38:07.120
And so he deserves to only have 25.

01:38:07.120 --> 01:38:14.940
that does mean that there's a sense of anti hype, because most of the grand finals value

01:38:14.940 --> 01:38:20.620
was already done when lower bracket guy lost in round two of the upper bracket to some

01:38:20.620 --> 01:38:26.940
other dude. That was the real part of the performance that will end up determining if you champion

01:38:26.940 --> 01:38:33.420
or not. And so a lot of the value, a lot of the outcome, a lot of the decision making

01:38:33.420 --> 01:38:38.940
about who's going to win happened before someone tunes into the grand finals.

01:38:38.940 --> 01:38:43.620
And so this system is really good for players and fairness.

01:38:43.620 --> 01:38:46.460
It's really good for the upper bracket guy.

01:38:46.460 --> 01:38:50.700
It's good for the guy that dominated and then fairly gets what he deserves.

01:38:50.700 --> 01:38:58.300
But it's bad for viewers because of confusion, repetition and anti-hype.

01:38:58.300 --> 01:39:02.900
A lot of people don't like this system even if they fully understand it.

01:39:02.900 --> 01:39:09.140
They don't care about someone already won, someone already lost, he still has a right

01:39:09.140 --> 01:39:10.140
to lose, etc.

01:39:10.140 --> 01:39:15.360
They just want a finals that feels fair in the finals without caring about the path that

01:39:15.360 --> 01:39:16.360
led someone there.

01:39:16.360 --> 01:39:18.760
It's less fun.

01:39:18.760 --> 01:39:31.240
So as a pro gamer, my opinion from 2003 to probably 2023, this was my favorite system

01:39:31.240 --> 01:39:37.400
it wasn't thinking like an org or a viewer, I was thinking like a pro gamer, that if you

01:39:37.400 --> 01:39:45.000
win, it needs to be fair, so that you have the 75% chance to win. Right? But it's not

01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:53.680
that hype. Okay, then there's another system, you can have double elimination, best of three

01:39:53.680 --> 01:40:04.320
system, fully pure, except finals format. So it's not fully pure. And the finals instead

01:40:04.320 --> 01:40:11.560
is one zero advantage to win a bracket guy. So it's the best of five that starts like

01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:24.080
this. I'll start with the comms. Game one. During game one, score is one oh. Ergo, viewer

01:40:24.080 --> 01:40:29.080
confusion. I'm not making some random shit up. This system got used a lot in the history

01:40:29.080 --> 01:40:46.840
of eSports. During game two, scores to oh, if you win game two, you win three. Oh, it's

01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:53.640
still actively used. Sure. Yeah, I bet it is. I bet it is. Now, the chance to win here,

01:40:53.640 --> 01:40:58.640
I believe it's 65%, but I have to check my maths one second.

01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:12.600
I think it's 65 or 66 or something.

01:41:20.080 --> 01:41:22.680
Hey, Gravi, sorry to interrupt you during your stream.

01:41:23.640 --> 01:41:29.640
But I wanted to express my deep gratitude to you and your moderators for the opportunity to restream your tournament over the last three days.

01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:31.640
It was a truly amazing show and the Russian viewers really enjoyed it.

01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:35.640
If similar events happened, I wouldn't mind restreaming it or participating.

01:41:35.640 --> 01:41:40.640
Oh, thank you very much, Bronder.

01:41:40.640 --> 01:41:44.640
The percentage chance is 68.75%.

01:41:44.640 --> 01:41:45.640
Okay.

01:41:45.640 --> 01:41:50.640
So that's the value of this chat.

01:41:50.640 --> 01:42:03.280
68.75%. So we go from 75% to 68.75%. So best of 510 transition from a fully best of 3.0

01:42:03.280 --> 01:42:11.320
limb still gives a massive advantage to the winner bracket. You could increase it and

01:42:11.320 --> 01:42:20.560
you could say it's a best of 710 and that's still like 60% plus. There are some advantages.

01:42:20.560 --> 01:42:26.360
And one of the advantages, it almost gives as much advantage as a pure system, but it's

01:42:26.360 --> 01:42:28.440
only a single series.

01:42:28.440 --> 01:42:33.800
But the viewer confusion is, why is it 1-0 in Game 1?

01:42:33.800 --> 01:42:34.800
That's so unfair.

01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:35.800
He got a free win.

01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:36.800
That's not fair.

01:42:36.800 --> 01:42:37.800
This finals isn't fair.

01:42:37.800 --> 01:42:38.800
Yeah, true.

01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:45.280
It is advantageous to the lower bracket to have only 32% chance to win, because he should

01:42:45.280 --> 01:42:47.720
have only 25%.

01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:53.600
So now everyone's at odds with each other about like what's actually fair, right?

01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:55.200
Then there's systems.

01:42:55.200 --> 01:42:58.000
I personally hate this because of the 1-0 confusion.

01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:00.440
I never liked it, right?

01:43:00.440 --> 01:43:06.840
Then there's a system which is just best of five, nothing else.

01:43:06.840 --> 01:43:13.880
So the whole thing, whole tourney is double elimination best of three and then finals.

01:43:13.880 --> 01:43:15.400
Okay.

01:43:15.400 --> 01:43:16.920
What are the pros?

01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:27.600
to understand. Very easy to understand. It's a best of five. I don't care what road they

01:43:27.600 --> 01:43:38.640
had here. I just want entertainment. And it's a best of five. Let's fucking go. Right.

01:43:38.640 --> 01:43:48.400
clean. Right? It's 50 50. Now a lot of people will defend this system by saying, it should

01:43:48.400 --> 01:43:54.600
be this way, because the winner bracket guy still has an advantage because he doesn't

01:43:54.600 --> 01:44:00.160
need to play as many games in the lower bracket, that's an advantage in itself. And as someone

01:44:00.160 --> 01:44:06.240
that has played from winner and lower bracket, I call horseshit on that. You cannot attribute

01:44:06.240 --> 01:44:12.480
nerves, tiredness and momentum to players in a broad strokes approach.

01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:14.000
Because everyone's different.

01:44:14.040 --> 01:44:19.440
And I often felt very galvanized in my resolve and warming up coming from

01:44:19.440 --> 01:44:23.720
lower bracket, the tired argument that everyone seems to so happily apply to

01:44:23.720 --> 01:44:26.160
lower bracket guy simply didn't apply to me.

01:44:26.520 --> 01:44:28.080
I was not tired from lower bracket.

01:44:28.120 --> 01:44:29.200
I was galvanized.

01:44:29.520 --> 01:44:30.400
I had momentum.

01:44:30.400 --> 01:44:31.440
I had motivation.

01:44:31.720 --> 01:44:34.960
The deep run that Singh Singh did last time, Hera did this time, are

01:44:34.960 --> 01:44:38.560
proof that tiredness cannot stop you. Or maybe they're not

01:44:38.560 --> 01:44:41.120
proof, maybe it's still true, but it doesn't apply to everyone.

01:44:41.440 --> 01:44:44.900
But just like the warm up versus tired argument is something

01:44:44.900 --> 01:44:49.320
that is way too easily applied to the human psychology that's

01:44:49.320 --> 01:44:53.260
much more complicated than that. And the winner bracket guy

01:44:53.260 --> 01:44:56.580
might feel really comfortable and have an easy time preparing or

01:44:56.580 --> 01:45:00.720
he might be torn up with nerves, having to wait five hours,

01:45:00.980 --> 01:45:03.560
while the lower bracket guy tears his way through a bunch of

01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:08.800
meet shields and he doesn't even know who he should prepare for because he could meet

01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:12.120
four different people and he doesn't know who it's going to be at the day when he wakes

01:45:12.120 --> 01:45:16.920
up. He's just watching, you're watching them sweep the lower bracket and you're there sitting

01:45:16.920 --> 01:45:23.680
on your cold hands.

01:45:23.680 --> 01:45:29.800
This is good because it's fair. It's a fair battle if you isolated away from the road

01:45:29.800 --> 01:45:37.200
to the finals. And it also predictable broadcast length. One

01:45:37.200 --> 01:45:40.800
of the nightmares that tournament organizers often felt is

01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:44.040
that it could be two oh, or it could be one two one two.

01:45:44.520 --> 01:45:47.800
And that's a two versus six map difference. So it's a

01:45:47.840 --> 01:45:52.660
tournament organizer, timed schedule nightmare, it could be

01:45:52.660 --> 01:45:59.240
a sweep, or it could be a long knuckle duster. Is that what

01:45:59.240 --> 01:46:03.320
happened to Yamato to cold waiting so long. I know he was making use of his time to stay

01:46:03.320 --> 01:46:13.960
busy. So in the end, I settled personally on a system that's close to this, easy to understand,

01:46:14.320 --> 01:46:21.960
clean, predictable broadcast length, a finals that is a finals in all its right between two guys

01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:27.680
that are the most deserving to be there, a little unfair to the upper bracket guy, yes, but by

01:46:27.680 --> 01:46:36.800
itself isolated from the Rust there. And then I gave to map, map advantage, and then LP LP LP,

01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:43.680
which means it was Yamato map, Yamato map, then you want to want both those, then it was Hera map

01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:50.080
because it's loses big, but Hera won it, and then it was Yamato map. And then finally, it's final

01:46:50.080 --> 01:46:58.240
map remaining. And I calculated this will give some points of percentage advantage,

01:46:58.240 --> 01:47:06.560
not 60%, not 65, not 68.75, not 75, but more than 50%. He also got the band second. So there's

01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:13.600
like a small chance. Small chance both want to ban same map. And because her bands first,

01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:24.600
Yamato gets a free map ban, if it was going to be the same. Now it's not likely for it to be the same, but it is possible.

01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:30.600
Additionally, even if it wasn't going to be the same, you still get information about the kind of map he's banning and then you get to ban seconds.

01:47:30.600 --> 01:47:35.600
So there were a number of small subtle map advantages for the upper bracket guy.

01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:37.600
Do you want to show the discord? Yeah, sure.

01:47:41.600 --> 01:47:45.600
Yeah, it was it was a upper bracket, upper bracket and an LP LP LP.

01:47:46.600 --> 01:47:52.600
Now, the one thing where I think I could make it even more favorite for the upper bracket guy is if the map pool was bigger.

01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:54.600
So right now it's seven maps.

01:47:56.600 --> 01:47:58.600
And then it's minus BA.

01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:02.600
So Hera first and Yamato and then five maps left for a best of five.

01:48:02.600 --> 01:48:10.360
the five and so even if it's Yamato, Yamato and then LP, LP and LP because there is only

01:48:10.360 --> 01:48:17.160
five maps, eventually you'll play them all. If you indeed, you play your best two maps

01:48:17.160 --> 01:48:22.840
first, but then Hera plays his next two next best maps, if he gets the LP, he gets the LP,

01:48:22.840 --> 01:48:27.640
this ended up being Hera, but this ended up being Yamato. So still I think picking three

01:48:27.640 --> 01:48:34.920
three out of the five maps is an advantage. But if the map was nine maps, let's say if

01:48:34.920 --> 01:48:42.040
it was like nine maps, nine maps with BA, and then you have the system which is upper bracket

01:48:42.040 --> 01:48:47.200
guy, upper bracket guy, loser pick, loser pick, loser pick, then there are two unpicked maps.

01:48:47.200 --> 01:48:51.920
And if you assume on average that the map advantage is balanced that Blizzard did their

01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:58.240
drop. Let's say I have 58% chance to win on this map, 56 to win on this map, and then

01:48:58.240 --> 01:49:03.760
I have 53 to win on this map. This one is fair. And then I have 47 to win on this. I

01:49:03.760 --> 01:49:10.080
have 46 to 44% chance to win here and I have 42% chance to win here. This is the seven

01:49:10.080 --> 01:49:17.640
maps. If I get to pick this map, this one and this one, and Hera gets to take this one,

01:49:17.640 --> 01:49:21.640
then I have a massive advantage. But that's only true if the maps are indeed split in the

01:49:21.640 --> 01:49:31.240
odds like this. If the maps are actually more like this, then it is a very small advantage indeed.

01:49:31.240 --> 01:49:35.240
So it really depends on what the theoretical map win chances per map.

01:49:38.440 --> 01:49:43.480
Whether the system that I gave is good, right, is good enough, let's say, depending on what you

01:49:43.480 --> 01:49:48.760
want it to be. And if it's like this, five maps, and this is the advantage, then Yamato is going to

01:49:48.760 --> 01:49:54.780
play 52, 51, then 48, which is Harris pick, and then he gets to pick 50. So that should

01:49:54.780 --> 01:49:59.740
still be better. He has three over points and two under points here, he would be a 51%

01:49:59.740 --> 01:50:06.740
upper dog to win the finals. Right. And the bigger that the map imbalances are, the bigger

01:50:06.740 --> 01:50:12.020
the changes would be because like here, it would be Yamato, Yamato, and Yamato, and this

01:50:12.020 --> 01:50:16.820
would be Hera. So you got minus four here, plus four, plus two, then it would be a 52%.

01:50:16.820 --> 01:50:24.260
It really depends on the maps, but I did a lot of model planning with this kind of system.

01:50:24.260 --> 01:50:29.760
I don't know what the map win chances are going to be for these players at this level.

01:50:29.760 --> 01:50:34.660
It's impossible to know for sure, but what I was looking for was any kind of advantage

01:50:34.660 --> 01:50:41.500
that makes it feel 100% 50-50 fair to the viewer while knowing that in fact it favors

01:50:41.500 --> 01:50:46.020
the upper bracket guy a bit because he has the benefit of not having lost.

01:50:46.020 --> 01:50:50.400
should be rewarded for that and I think that my system rewarded whoever is going to be

01:50:50.400 --> 01:50:57.340
the upper bracket guy the most. Now I'm not going to say that everyone accepted the tournament

01:50:57.340 --> 01:51:01.460
knowing what the rules are. So let's not cry any tears for the upper bracket guy that ended

01:51:01.460 --> 01:51:06.860
up losing because people didn't fucking know the rules. They wanted to play anyway. I made

01:51:06.860 --> 01:51:15.460
the rules later. So like I can't hide behind that. But I did my best to make the best possible

01:51:15.460 --> 01:51:21.380
system with all factors considered. Yeah, I think we're removed past that. Thank you.

01:51:25.860 --> 01:51:30.500
Do you regret inviting Hera because it was unfair having a pro? No, I don't regret it at all.

01:51:30.500 --> 01:51:37.860
Look, this event is, first of all, it's impossible to have a fair event where everyone is exactly

01:51:37.860 --> 01:51:44.580
1000 MMR by the last three weeks. There's too much player agency. And how much they're going to

01:51:44.580 --> 01:51:49.480
to prepare practice for me to be able to predict accurately who is going to win.

01:51:49.880 --> 01:51:53.480
People could practice two games today or 200 games today.

01:51:53.580 --> 01:51:54.780
I don't know what it's going to be.

01:51:54.980 --> 01:52:00.080
Secondly, this is a content based tournament where I invite as many big

01:52:00.080 --> 01:52:05.080
streamers as possible that are fun personalities, different personalities

01:52:05.280 --> 01:52:08.680
come from different games, have different things they bring to the show

01:52:08.780 --> 01:52:12.080
and that are willing to work hard to prepare for the show.

01:52:12.080 --> 01:52:19.440
at least most of them, and people that bring in big audiences that expose Warcraft 3 to a larger

01:52:19.440 --> 01:52:25.840
part of the world, so that from a forever forward, henceforth, people are more connected

01:52:26.480 --> 01:52:31.440
among different games and are able to enjoy each other's games better. I've enjoyed playing League

01:52:31.440 --> 01:52:36.960
and AE2 and Dota, and it's fun when people also know Warcraft 3, and bringing small streamers

01:52:36.960 --> 01:52:39.600
doesn't achieve that, bringing big streamers does.

01:52:39.600 --> 01:52:48.000
Hera's interest in Warcraft 3 was genuine and sincere and not a small interest,

01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:53.360
and it would be foolish not to use someone that interested in the game to grind.

01:52:53.360 --> 01:52:58.240
We had so much fun watching Hera's training arc that it was amazing content.

01:52:59.600 --> 01:53:03.040
But you only invited one RTS Pro, it was unfair to the other participants.

01:53:03.040 --> 01:53:04.400
You know what else was unfair?

01:53:04.400 --> 01:53:09.920
Yamato Kannon had some Warcraft experience. He played the custom game engine. I have previously

01:53:09.920 --> 01:53:15.520
seen that Warcraft 3 engine experience is useful. I had him send in a demo and he knows how to build

01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:23.120
his base. Hera tried to use Skaulf Blight on a sheep. Right, on day one. So I think if it had

01:53:23.120 --> 01:53:27.040
been a two-day, a two-week practice instead of three, Yamato Kannon would have won.

01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:31.280
Tider One had a thousand games of experience. That was unfair as well.

01:53:31.280 --> 01:53:36.920
well. Pox had 10,000 hours of custom game experience, but said he only played 200 hours

01:53:36.920 --> 01:53:44.000
of melee like decades ago, whatever, right? Pox, Yamato, Hera, Tidere were all unfair.

01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:49.380
Dante's had more experience than Mary, maybe that was unfair as well. But Hera picks things

01:53:49.380 --> 01:53:55.320
up faster. Oh, so I'm not allowed to invite people to pick things up faster. Hera was

01:53:55.320 --> 01:54:00.520
very slow at learning during many parts of his training. He kicked it up to 11 and it's

01:54:00.520 --> 01:54:07.760
it's credit. We shouldn't discredit people's performances or talent or hard work or discoveries

01:54:07.760 --> 01:54:14.000
or tournament preparation just because they did that. I can only invite people that don't

01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:17.920
care, that won't work hard, that won't come up with special strategies, don't study their

01:54:17.920 --> 01:54:28.240
opponents. Bro is 2KMMR already with 300 APM? No, he's not 2KMMR, Rado. He's 1400MMR.

01:54:28.240 --> 01:54:34.160
nearly lost. If Yamato had won, it would have been unfair because he had engine experience.

01:54:34.160 --> 01:54:38.560
I know he plays like it, no he doesn't. Put Hera against the 2k, he's gonna get humbled.

01:54:39.280 --> 01:54:43.600
Look, Hera is insane, it was fun to watch him, he's a deserving winner. Does he have

01:54:43.600 --> 01:54:50.240
more experience and talent than RTS? Yeah, probably. But again, if it had been two weeks of

01:54:50.240 --> 01:55:00.920
practice, I think he would have won. How much more did Hera play? The same amount as Yamato,

01:55:00.920 --> 01:55:06.880
but Hera had zero experience. You guys are dumb, Hera sucks, I'm 1600 orca with dumb

01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:15.100
shame, LOL in all caps. Yeah, Hera sucks. Hera also put in the time. Yeah, guys, if

01:55:15.100 --> 01:55:21.100
If Hera was just talented, and he played 100 games in one, that would look pretty bad.

01:55:21.100 --> 01:55:24.100
But he played 400 games.

01:55:24.100 --> 01:55:28.500
He worked as hard as Yamato Kanon.

01:55:28.500 --> 01:55:30.420
And in the meantime, he still had AOE 2.

01:55:30.420 --> 01:55:32.100
Are we not gonna dumb...

01:55:32.100 --> 01:55:40.540
Look, if we only use the results to judge the tournament by, then is that really science?

01:55:40.540 --> 01:55:42.980
Now some people predicted Hera was gonna win.

01:55:42.980 --> 01:55:47.780
and feel vindicated with their prediction. They had a hypothesis that it was unfair,

01:55:47.780 --> 01:55:52.580
that he was going to win, and then he did. If that's your belief, then yeah, sure, maybe.

01:55:54.820 --> 01:56:02.740
But I was equally worried about Hera, as I was about Dematocannon and Pox. I didn't think

01:56:02.740 --> 01:56:04.740
Dante's was going to be like that big of a...

01:56:08.100 --> 01:56:12.100
But he's a funny clue, I'm glad he played. I was worried about Tyler1 as well.

01:56:12.980 --> 01:56:14.980
Because Tidon had a thousand games on people.

01:56:15.980 --> 01:56:20.980
And I think if you had a bit more time, with no other events, Tidon could have taken the two.

01:56:23.980 --> 01:56:26.980
Simply was a big surprise.

01:56:26.980 --> 01:56:31.980
Simply like Hera had zero experience and made it to top three, like that.

01:56:31.980 --> 01:56:32.480
like that.

01:56:41.260 --> 01:56:45.620
People were saying the same things about the Viper, but when he lost, no one brought it up again.

01:56:45.660 --> 01:56:46.020
Yep.

01:56:47.900 --> 01:56:51.060
As an Orc now, in tournament Orc, I've seen it all.

01:56:51.780 --> 01:56:56.260
Every player that I've invited, almost every player that I invited, I made a huge mistake.

01:56:56.260 --> 01:57:00.980
It was so unfair, but most of those opinions are formed over the final result.

01:57:00.980 --> 01:57:05.540
Or are coming before the final result and then proven to be wrong and they never brought up again

01:57:05.540 --> 01:57:10.100
The viper was a bad inclusion because there's no chance for anyone else

01:57:14.700 --> 01:57:19.220
I appreciate that these sentiments are you know

01:57:19.540 --> 01:57:27.700
They're real and they're backed up by you know your fandom of another streamer of another player and that people like to see things being fair

01:57:27.700 --> 01:57:31.900
And then they feel it's not fair and by the way, I never promised it was going to be fair

01:57:31.900 --> 01:57:33.900
So if you still think it's unfair, that's fine

01:57:34.460 --> 01:57:39.620
What I'm aiming for is an amazing show and it can only be made amazing by everyone's hard work

01:57:39.620 --> 01:57:44.300
And by having a cool club of streamers that are willing to throw themselves at the game and that happened

01:57:45.460 --> 01:57:51.660
Big and I think that's a big W big success. I think it went perfectly y'alls says it was an incredible tournament

01:57:51.660 --> 01:57:53.780
Kudos for putting it all together creating so many angles for the game

01:57:53.780 --> 01:57:57.780
we all love so much. Hey, good to see you guys. Guys, we got a ex pro in chat to in

01:57:57.780 --> 01:57:59.940
your German pro human player.

01:58:03.340 --> 01:58:07.180
Do you think the amount of hard work from Hera Yamato is detrimental to future

01:58:07.180 --> 01:58:07.820
entrance?

01:58:09.900 --> 01:58:15.220
But I'm not gonna lie, I invited some big streamers and some people were like,

01:58:16.100 --> 01:58:20.260
I'm not sure that I can put in that kind of time and effort. And I don't know

01:58:20.260 --> 01:58:26.260
who they base it on, if they had seen anything from my event, seen some of the grind that others did.

01:58:27.220 --> 01:58:30.420
But I like hard work. I like seeing the hard work.

01:58:32.180 --> 01:58:36.900
How is it unfair if you haven't nearly got wrecked? Yep. Yeah, for sure.

01:58:41.220 --> 01:58:46.820
So you think you thermal could have played? Look, I invite anyone to try and hold a tournament

01:58:46.820 --> 01:58:54.820
of this nature and find the perfect cast of eight without any mistakes or accusations that it was unfair.

01:58:54.820 --> 01:59:04.820
At the end of the day, I have to use my judgment and I saw Euthermal demo the game two years ago

01:59:04.820 --> 01:59:10.820
and he looked like fish in water. He looked like fish in water.

01:59:10.820 --> 01:59:19.740
It's Uthermo Smurf known, yeah, he's terminal.

01:59:19.740 --> 01:59:23.740
This is without any coaching.

01:59:23.740 --> 01:59:25.580
He's just playing random stuff.

01:59:25.580 --> 01:59:32.140
Oh wait, this is the wrong field.

01:59:32.140 --> 01:59:34.900
This is Uthermo without any coaching.

01:59:34.900 --> 01:59:43.100
He has more MMR than anyone in the tournament with zero coaching.

01:59:43.100 --> 01:59:48.020
He's just doing goofy shit, like look at his hero combos.

01:59:48.020 --> 01:59:52.740
He's normalized a lot more, now it's always Archmage Mountain King, but he started, okay,

01:59:52.740 --> 01:59:56.140
it's actually not goofy anymore.

01:59:56.140 --> 01:59:58.100
That looks really standard now actually.

01:59:58.100 --> 02:00:04.860
He started goofy, but it's not anymore.

02:00:04.860 --> 02:00:09.660
Super standard. Look at these goofy hero picks. Standard AM

02:00:09.660 --> 02:00:14.980
slop. Hi, Groovy. Do you still enjoy playing the game? Or is

02:00:14.980 --> 02:00:18.740
it more out of habit? I tend to not play the game if I don't

02:00:18.740 --> 02:00:21.660
enjoy it. So when I play it, generally I do. And if I don't,

02:00:21.660 --> 02:00:26.300
I take a break. Yeah, you got to remember, I've pretty much

02:00:26.300 --> 02:00:30.340
done everything I ever could or wanted to with the game. These

02:00:30.340 --> 02:00:34.780
events are my most enjoyable Warcraft content, coaching and

02:00:34.780 --> 02:00:38.380
seeing a new generation of players pick up the game. That's

02:00:38.380 --> 02:00:41.860
what I get the most satisfaction and enjoyment from. I

02:00:41.860 --> 02:00:46.420
still have a couple of weeks arcs per year where I grind the

02:00:46.420 --> 02:00:52.500
game and I enjoy it. But usually because I play at high elo, and

02:00:52.500 --> 02:00:56.220
at a certain time slot, it's like the same three guys every

02:00:56.220 --> 02:00:59.100
single night. And after like two, three weeks of that, just

02:00:59.100 --> 02:01:04.300
playing against two, three different people. And there will

02:01:04.300 --> 02:01:09.580
be like three people that I can't beat and I meet them every night and then it will be

02:01:09.580 --> 02:01:16.340
like seven people that I am basically guaranteed to beat and I beat them every night. And it's

02:01:16.340 --> 02:01:22.100
just not as exciting as watching the middle of the pack. Middle MMR is just fucking divine

02:01:22.100 --> 02:01:28.420
to watch. Because everything is possible. You can climb, you can drop, it's always close,

02:01:28.420 --> 02:01:33.940
it's always exciting, it's fraught with mistakes. Unless I'm trying to get rank one in the world

02:01:33.940 --> 02:01:42.340
again. A ladder rank for me is satisfying for some weeks. Right. And I'm not, I'm not looking

02:01:42.340 --> 02:01:50.100
to try and become rank one in the world again. There's so many challenges in life that are

02:01:50.100 --> 02:01:55.260
fun to do like play another game and try to get good at it other strategy games so much

02:01:55.260 --> 02:02:01.660
fun. I grubby I love the tournament. The content from training with Mary and Dante's with you

02:02:01.660 --> 02:02:05.500
and especially with Sol really drew me in. It was way more interesting for me to watch

02:02:05.500 --> 02:02:08.780
somebody who knew nothing yet like me. Then I could care more about the better players

02:02:08.780 --> 02:02:12.460
from there. That's awesome. That's exactly what I was hoping for Lewis. Cheers.

02:02:14.780 --> 02:02:17.020
When you play against Happy, would you lose no chance? Yeah.

02:02:23.100 --> 02:02:26.380
Krabi, would you erase your Warcraft memory to start playing over again?

02:02:26.380 --> 02:02:32.380
Is it just my memory that's erased or yours too?

02:02:32.380 --> 02:02:42.380
Am I going to play with an audience that remembers what I was and forgot everything or is everything bracket reset?

02:02:47.380 --> 02:02:49.380
Yeah, minus one wife, true.

02:02:56.380 --> 02:03:02.380
Do you think you could stomp AO2 crowd if you invested the time? How's the talent there you think?

02:03:02.380 --> 02:03:12.380
I mean, I think it's tough because it's a different engine. I climbed to 1700 MMR in AO2 on a few different sieves.

02:03:12.380 --> 02:03:20.380
But there's a lot of talented people out there in the world, so yeah, it depends how hard everyone works.

02:03:20.380 --> 02:03:25.780
Would you consider a higher tier invitational with the guys that did really well in the

02:03:25.780 --> 02:03:26.780
previous edition?

02:03:26.780 --> 02:03:31.060
The storylines are really starting to develop and having them return for casting was great.

02:03:31.060 --> 02:03:34.860
I think the network keeps increasing.

02:03:34.860 --> 02:03:39.580
The network of people that we know keeps increasing and I like that.

02:03:39.580 --> 02:03:43.180
We've had 23 different participants to the invitational.

02:03:43.180 --> 02:03:49.820
I'm hoping that some of these guys will come cast a future one and you know is a winners

02:03:49.820 --> 02:03:56.420
tournament can be interesting. Yamato with Hera, together with Ampy and Dendy and then

02:03:56.420 --> 02:04:02.340
Sing Sing and Churrin. Yeah, that sounds pretty fun, right? But also, you have to be careful

02:04:02.340 --> 02:04:09.180
not to do like a clean repeat of the same format, the same. I always want to have some

02:04:09.180 --> 02:04:15.660
things different as well. Because I think if you try to chase the same high of one event

02:04:15.660 --> 02:04:20.380
and try to build it exactly the same with the exact same concept or the exact same people.

02:04:20.380 --> 02:04:29.340
It's going to not be his novel anymore. So did you invite Alois from League? I did and he said yes,

02:04:29.340 --> 02:04:37.180
but he couldn't play on Friday and Saturday. So I uninvited him because I wanted to hold it over

02:04:37.180 --> 02:04:38.060
Friday to Sunday.

02:04:45.660 --> 02:04:52.140
If he put the same effort in Warcraft 3, who do you think would win head to head?

02:04:52.140 --> 02:04:55.140
Well for a long time Hearthstone won't, again a lot of people are forgetting, Hearthstone

02:04:55.140 --> 02:04:57.660
is already 2k MMR.

02:04:57.660 --> 02:05:02.420
Hearthstone is 2k, Uthermo is 1.4, Hearthstone was playing when he was 14, Uthermo first

02:05:02.420 --> 02:05:03.420
timing.

02:05:03.420 --> 02:05:07.780
At least he won Jinx's tournament, oh yeah he won Jinx's tournament, right?

02:05:15.660 --> 02:05:22.660
Please don't tell me it was Alois so sad now. What do you mean so sad about what?

02:05:22.660 --> 02:05:28.580
Gribby I want to ask you a question if you could go back 20 years would you change the

02:05:28.580 --> 02:05:35.740
race you compete with in the Helmo? I wanted Alois to join favorite streamer. Yeah he's

02:05:35.740 --> 02:05:40.140
a good streamer, good player. He coached me. His coaching was very good too but again he

02:05:40.140 --> 02:05:42.140
He can't play on Fridays and Saturdays.

02:05:42.140 --> 02:05:48.500
So basically I asked Tyler, he said yes, and he said he can't play on Thursdays.

02:05:48.500 --> 02:05:51.980
He didn't say why, but I now know it's because of the AT&T and I later got.

02:05:51.980 --> 02:05:54.620
Alois couldn't play on Friday and Saturday.

02:05:54.620 --> 02:05:59.700
So if I take Tyler and Alois, then I would have to run the event from Sunday to Tuesday

02:05:59.700 --> 02:06:01.980
or Monday to Wednesday.

02:06:01.980 --> 02:06:08.140
And it was just a weird schedule because it's much harder for people to watch outside of

02:06:08.140 --> 02:06:13.500
the weekend. So basically, Hera won a Warcraft 3 tournament while also playing a top tier

02:06:13.500 --> 02:06:20.980
A.W.2 tournament simultaneously. Yeah, but he lost the A.W.2. He lost the A.W.2 match.

02:06:20.980 --> 02:06:26.060
It's not good enough to win both. He now has like five days to win.

02:06:26.060 --> 02:06:30.100
Now that we've just settled, I just want to say, man, that that jacket and necklace look

02:06:30.100 --> 02:06:32.620
was top notch.

02:06:32.620 --> 02:06:38.540
Thank you, thank you, my wife dressed me up.

02:06:38.540 --> 02:06:40.980
I got some pictures for my wife.

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You guys want to see pictures of my wife?

02:06:43.580 --> 02:06:45.940
She sent this.

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The chickens.

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Chickens are all nestled up on the top roosting bar.

02:06:53.500 --> 02:06:56.300
She has some nice cocks, yeah.

02:06:56.300 --> 02:06:58.060
Can you tell which one is?

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You can't tell actually.

02:07:02.460 --> 02:07:05.420
Oh my god, they're so cute, look at this.

02:07:06.780 --> 02:07:08.540
They're all on the top roost.

02:07:10.540 --> 02:07:12.280
There's four roosts, you know.

02:07:15.180 --> 02:07:16.660
They have a wife, you know.

02:07:18.020 --> 02:07:19.860
Look at this guy, he's like.

02:07:19.860 --> 02:07:24.860
And this one is like, I'm gonna walk all over these.

02:07:27.340 --> 02:07:29.100
Wait, is this a second beak?

02:07:29.100 --> 02:07:37.100
Look, there's a second beak right here underneath this one.

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AI generated sloth?

02:07:38.600 --> 02:07:39.740
No, it's not.

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This is our chickens.

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AI sloth?

02:07:45.100 --> 02:07:46.100
No.

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No.

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Good.

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It's not AI.

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Are you going to invite Sebastian or Lyrie to next continue dismantling the AoE 2 pro

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scene?

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Hell yeah.

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Gabby was this the best event in terms of the characters in the tournament compared

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to the other Tornys?

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I liked all the characters in every tournament.

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I handpicked all of them.

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Look guys, it's chicken shit.

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The girl with the annoying voice was annoying to be honest.

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Dante's?

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Which one are you talking about?

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I don't remember any annoying voices.

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But yeah, of course, look, I can't expect all of you to like all of them.

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I can't expect all of you to like me.

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And do you think that the audiences of the 23 invitationals, do you think they all like

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me?

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Hell no.

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There's plenty of people that think I'm cringe or boring or lame or whatever.

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That's fine.

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fine. What made you predict that Harry would win the tournament? Oh, he had like an insane

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ladder run. This one. When I saw this, I was like, Oh, okay, we're now in Super Saiyan

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territory. All right, on day one on the clan war, it's one thing and on day two, we lost

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to simply and that looks really mortal. But then he did this, I'm like, Oh, this is what

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What Hera does is push to the brink, lost, put to shame, and then he's only going to

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connect all the dots.

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I guess he's going to win.

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Can you talk about viewer-wise how good this tournament was compared to the other tournament?

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Yeah, let me see.

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Live, popular, alright.

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So if you look at the Onlyfangs Invitational, 14.15 March, 120k views on the YouTube stream,

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124k and 103k.

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And then the second streamer invitational, 19 April, 80k, Delta of Champions Day 374,

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4. So it looks like Alter of Champions Day 3 and 2 actually overtook the first day of

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the 2nd streamer invitational, whereas this one still has more for now. And then Alter

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of Champions Clan War Day on Friday is underneath the 2nd streamer invitational. And then when

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I rate led World of Warcraft, Multicoronixia, that one is still above Alter of Champions

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Day 1. So it's very competitive with those. Now of course these could still have had views

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since the live show. And I guess we can see on Twitch Tracker too.

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Yeah, I think the Clan War was very good, maybe because it was on Friday, which is less

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of a good day than Saturday. That's why it was less viewed.

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How do I see the top streams?

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Max viewers.

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Where's 2020, 2018, 2020, 25 January?

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Where's May?

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Oh, here.

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26.

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There.

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Oh, here.

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Here, all right.

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Maximum CCV on Onlyfang's Invitational first tournament,

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42,830.

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And second day, 40,600.

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43K and 40K.

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And then the second streamer invitational was 22K max

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and 26K on the finals day.

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And actually, I don't know these numbers yet for the current one, but they look thicker.

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21k on Friday, Clan War, Alter of Champions 26.8 on Saturday, and 31,000 on Sunday.

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So this one is over the second streamer, Irrotational with the strategy game streamers,

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which came hot off the back of the first one.

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I think that's even more impressive because overall viewership is lower.

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Look, in the days leading up to the tournament, my stream was at 12K, 14.5K, 10K, 12K, 10K,

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11K, 11K, 10K.

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So it was 10K every day because I was basically watching Tider One and Soda Popping, and a

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lot of their viewers came over to watch my stream to see what I'm saying about their streamer.

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And it also came right off the back of World of Warcraft, right?

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came right off of the back of the World of Warcraft hype. And so there was a lot of like

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transitive viewership of people that stopped watching WoW and then went to the next thing

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where the two chieftains went. When you look at the prelude to this one, I only had 6,000

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to 7,000 viewers every day. Right? Which is almost half of the prelude to the only facts.

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But the viewership came very close.

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It came almost as close to this viewership as it came to this one.

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And so I consider that this event was actually qualitatively better, more enjoyable for people.

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Based on the contrast between the lead-up and the actual event.

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Do you get what I mean?

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So if this event quality had been held here with the same people, it would have been

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even more, I think, because it was better.

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The plan war was super fun.

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Q. Alter of Champions was amazing.

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What would you say went well and what not so well?

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A. I think everything went well.

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I can't complain literally about anything.

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I just think we got so lucky already.

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I can think of, and I did think of, hundreds of ways how it could have gone worse.

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I can think of hundreds of ways how it could have gone worse.

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Now the lack during Yamato simply, yeah, the unfortunate.

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How about figuratively?

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Figuratively, uh, what would, I think the biggest upset would be if like simply wins,

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That would be like a cool offset, like so unexpected.

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Even though, viewer supplies, you may not be the biggest star,

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but I think it'd be cool.

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I think hero winning is super cool too.

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And I think Yamato cannon winning would be super cool.

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I think Tide 1 winning would be super cool.

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And let's not even see a craft on Dantes,

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maybe the chance was not too high.

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Same with Maxim.

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Pox as well.

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Like I think we had five contenders

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where any one of them winning

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would be like a really cool storyline.

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Max and Mary maybe in Dante's didn't play for the same chances.

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Why were your numbers high and fall?

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Actually, I don't know.

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What was I doing here?

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Maximum viewers every day 10k.

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Is this Dota?

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Yeah, it's Dota.

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But why so many?

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Was it like all the coaching arcs?

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because I was getting a lot of coaching,

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like every day I was getting coaching, I think.

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I was A to Zing, and I was coaching.

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And it's a peak of the year, and maybe COVID,

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was COVID in 2020, was COVID at the end of 2022 or not?

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That and Dota fans know you're a legend.

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And that's now tempered by my crash out.

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That's 21, right?

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2020, 21.

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What's the ad on the left of the screen?

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Uh, play for free in your browser.

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Guns of glory. Oh, they got guns, alright.

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But it's AI art, guys.

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These girls don't exist.

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Though the players wanted to see a good positive person get corrupted.

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Ha ha ha.

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Nah, I think a lot of people liked that I wasn't jaded yet.

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It's, I don't think people watched mostly for the corruption arc.

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I think they watched for the uncorrupted, wide-eyed enjoyment of the game.

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Because the game is amazing.

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I didn't even get that corrupted just a little bit.

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Maximum viewers, 894. Warcraft 3.

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Wait, I don't think these were streams. I think this is rerun.

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Is it? This must have been during a trip and I did a rerun or something.

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There's no way this was... those were not real streams.

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Yeah, all of these gray areas, they're actually reruns.

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And it used to count those as well.

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Have you considered doing any events for other games like HOTS?

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Yeah, I consider, the only two games I seriously considered doing an invitational ala varka

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3 right now is Heroes of the Storm and Dota 2.

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I think those would be like cool vessels, but because they're team games, it's much

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harder logistically.

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And also, I'm afraid to bring people into the toxicity of a multiplayer game like that.

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Just because I considered it doesn't mean it's likely.

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Were you not afraid when you left Dota 2 because of the viewer number drop?

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Streamers like No Way Off and say they wish to play something else but it's such a viewer

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drop.

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The thing is, Dota 2, I had a lot of viewers, but Dota viewers don't subscribe a lot.

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So even though you lose a lot of ccv and ccv can give you job satisfaction, the ratio of

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subbing is very low.

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We don't play as a broke boys, hey, I'm not gonna dunk on that, I understand, I understand.

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Yeah, playing free games for a reason. Sure, play free games, but you have 100 skins.

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Were you worried someone might forfeit like T90 or something?

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Thank you for streaming WC3 for which 40 year olds.

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Thank you, Sikao. I appreciate it.

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Someone asked, did you worry that someone might forfeit like T90?

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Okay, I don't think, I like to make a little bit of fun T90 sometimes, like just bringing

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it up, but just just fun and memes, because I love that guy.

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T90 didn't forfeit.

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He got a little frustrated, and then we negotiated his surrender.

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It's not a forfeit.

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And if you're wondering if I was worried someone might forfeit, yes, I was worried that someone

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that gets very emotional might forfeit, and then I have to find another player last minute.

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don't like it. T90 didn't forfeit. But what you guys don't know is that I had like five or six

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confirmed invites for this tournament that after several days or weeks withdrew which sent me into

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a panic and frenzy because things were materializing and I suddenly have to find new players.

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That was stressful. My moths know. My moths know. And you guys don't know.

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Did you shout at your moths? My moths know what I did. Do I shout at moths? I have never

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Never once shouted at my mods.

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Never once.

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Mods?

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He beats us.

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No!

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No!

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Shut up!

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Okay, I want to know if actually two players or those two players are initially more talented

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at Warcraft 3.

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Can you make it happen?

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Not right now.

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Okay, did you have any suspicions during the games that some of the participants may

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listen to the stream during the game?

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Alright, what that would need is that a streamer sets up their audio in a way where they can hear the stream, but the stream does not.

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This is possible, but streamers are lazy.

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And so setting it up just for cheating might just be a little bit too much effort.

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More likely a mult would have to help them with it.

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Now, part of the reason I don't want to offer a large price pool is because it incentivizes

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cheating more and I don't want a cheating scandal.

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Gambling and face-saving cheating are two reasons that devalue competition.

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That's also why I prefer bigger and richer streamers, even though it kind of seems like

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a, it seems kind of lame where it's like, oh, the rich get richer or whatever, but like

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it removes much of the financial incentive for cheating.

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Because I like pure competition as pure as possible without the risk of cheating.

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You know, some of you may know the chess player, the Western or American chess player that

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competed a lot in Russia against Russians and stuff.

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And he became very suspicious and paranoid of Dr. Lupo still cheated.

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I know he did.

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Hans Neumann.

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No, no, no, no, no, like 50 years ago.

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Yeah, Bobby Fisher, Bobby Fisher, right?

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He became very paranoid that there were forces at work to cheat and disadvantage him and

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I think it's based on truth and I have personally experienced unpleasant, unfair circumstances

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that seemed rigged against me and I'm extremely allergic to it.

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I look for like, I guess I'm naive about these things or like purist or optimistic that I want them to be I want competition to be like as real as possible without gambling, throwing match fixing rigging cheating, etc.

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But yeah, it was mental by the end. Yeah, I did. I do think he got mental by the end. But I don't, of course, I don't know why.

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Tell the story example. I was once at a tournament at LAN.

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The start time for the tournament was 2 p.m.

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So I planned my entire sleep schedule, breakfast schedule, wake-up schedule around it.

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If an event is at 2 a.m., I'm going to wake up at 10, eat a hearty breakfast.

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By 11, I'll have eaten and showered and pooped.

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then I go to the event, I get there maybe at 12 and I have two hours of warm up and settle up

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settling in maybe 45 minutes of technical setup any leave time for you know like an admin to help

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with drivers or whatever then I have an hour plus to settle in get my mind in the game and do some

02:25:05.940 --> 02:25:11.540
warming up right so my wake up time is going to be 10 a.m thank you for the stuff appreciate it

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at 8am knocking on the door yeah I wake up I open the door I almost did the

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accent I don't want to make this about any country or accent grubby grubby you

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have to go to the tournament. You have to go to the tournament. You have to wake up.

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You have to wake up and go. And I'm like, why? It's like, yeah, it's starting now. The tournament

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is starting now. I'm like, I'm still sleeping. I mean, I'm already woken up. It sucks, right?

02:25:54.100 --> 02:25:59.900
But I get starting now. I go to the event. I get rushed. I hate feeling rushed. This

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messes with my mindset. My mindset preparation for the tournament is getting disrupted because

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I got woken up too early. I don't sleep enough. I'm getting rushed. I'm made to feel guilty

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for being too late. I was told the time that was wrong. Now I'm mad that they can't tell

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me the right time. I get to the event early. I hear the start time is 2pm after all. So

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some people trolled me, stole my sleeping time and got me there and now I'm going to waste my idle energy time and it's going to just drain away through the fucking floor, my competitive energy.

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Alright.

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Tournament finally starts at 5.

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I got Sabotage. Tournament starts late.

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They made me come early.

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And do you know when all the players arrive that are of the same players of that country?

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3pm, 4pm, they're filtering in comfortably.

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Like, it's like they knew, but I'm there already.

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Like, aren't they worried about being late?

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I guess they didn't get woken up early.

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You still want a tournament, right? Hell no!

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Could be way faster if you could show the chickens.

02:27:12.920 --> 02:27:13.920
Yeah, sure.

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Thank you for the sub. Appreciate the flesh wound. Did you name them all? No, none of

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them are names. Are these Grimstickets? Yeah. Why shower before poop? No, I always poop

02:27:54.020 --> 02:27:58.260
before shower. I just said it in another order. Hey, Gobi, I watched your event. It was a

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blast. I wanted to ask if your hero spotlights series will be continued or if that's done

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for now. Hey, I think that's gonna be my next video, Star Tail. But it might be in

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months, because I have an Aoe2 tournament coming first.

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Is that comfortable? They seem so on top of each other. Not trying to be weird. I

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don't know, not about chickens. Yeah, they're comfortable once they stop

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moving. Just now we watched the chickens for a few hours. It was very relaxing. We

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just sit on the floor and watch the chickens literally for a few hours and they were trying

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to settle in in the enclosure in some patch of dirt that had a ray of sun and they'll

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lie down settle in another one lies down next to them very close very comfortable and then

02:28:47.960 --> 02:28:53.960
another one walks all over their head walks over their head and then it's like like get

02:28:53.960 --> 02:28:57.460
It's like, no sense of personal space.

02:28:57.460 --> 02:29:05.460
So if they get settled in, yes, comfortable, but sometimes they just be at each other.

02:29:05.460 --> 02:29:09.220
Is there a link for the AoE tournament?

02:29:09.220 --> 02:29:11.860
I'm not sure.

02:29:11.860 --> 02:29:14.780
I'm not sure.

02:29:14.780 --> 02:29:20.300
Let's see.

02:29:20.300 --> 02:29:40.540
Hey, thank you for the sub map, appreciate it.

02:29:40.540 --> 02:29:45.020
I hope Hera invites some other people like Ruby, otherwise it will be giga stomp.

02:29:45.020 --> 02:29:47.940
Yeah, there's gamers.

02:29:47.940 --> 02:29:49.940
I think Tara already announced a bunch of people.

02:29:58.940 --> 02:30:00.940
Yeah, who did she announce?

02:30:04.940 --> 02:30:06.940
I don't want to steal any announcements.

02:30:06.940 --> 02:30:10.940
Day 9, Atriach, Sing Sing, Uthermal.

02:30:11.940 --> 02:30:13.940
Who else? Yamato Cannon?

02:30:13.940 --> 02:30:16.940
Cool, right guys? Yamato Cannon.

02:30:17.940 --> 02:30:19.940
Yes, Sing Sing.

02:30:21.940 --> 02:30:25.940
Oh man, that is really cool that he got Yamato Canon.

02:30:25.940 --> 02:30:30.940
I think he made that decision last second when he got acquainted with him in the tournament.

02:30:30.940 --> 02:30:34.940
I don't think he knew he was going to invite Yamato like a week ago.

02:30:35.940 --> 02:30:38.940
Are you ready to study 18 hours a day, Groovy?

02:30:39.940 --> 02:30:41.940
All unconfirmed?

02:30:43.940 --> 02:30:45.940
Is it unconfirmed though?

02:30:45.940 --> 02:30:51.500
I don't want to invite Tyler one, but he thinks Tyler one hates him now. How would that happen?

02:31:00.340 --> 02:31:02.840
Are you gonna play Ethiopians again, or are you switching?

02:31:07.500 --> 02:31:12.380
I played a lot of non Ethiopian stuff by the way a lot of people don't know this

02:31:12.380 --> 02:31:16.380
What's the website again? GrubbyAO2 profiles.

02:31:16.380 --> 02:31:19.380
What a feel-it!

02:31:21.380 --> 02:31:23.380
I played loads of different sifts.

02:31:24.380 --> 02:31:28.380
Look, overall best sifts Hindustani, 46 matches.

02:31:28.380 --> 02:31:32.380
People make it like I'm some kind of Ethiopian spammer.

02:31:32.380 --> 02:31:35.380
But look at this. What's the difference?

02:31:35.380 --> 02:31:39.380
Tatar, Malay, Hindustani, I play Ethiopians.

02:31:39.380 --> 02:31:43.220
Where do I see all my sifts? Statistics? No, this is...

02:31:45.540 --> 02:31:51.540
You play only open maps? Okay, and you think that Hera's gonna hold a tournament with the only

02:31:51.540 --> 02:31:57.380
water? Like, it's all Archipelago. We're gonna practice some obscure Archipelago map.

02:32:00.340 --> 02:32:04.340
In the middle of the landing page, there's a section you can expand the sift. Okay, middle of

02:32:04.340 --> 02:32:13.820
all matches, sifts, look, I play all kinds of sifts. Are you going to play Ethiopians

02:32:13.820 --> 02:32:23.100
again like I'm some one trick? 113 Ethiopians, 46 Hindustani, 33 Malay, Wei Chinese, look

02:32:23.100 --> 02:32:30.980
I just like the Asian sifts. I love Asian sifts. See? I have yellow fever. Of course

02:32:30.980 --> 02:32:50.460
Ethiopians are African. Where are Byzantines from? It's literally exponential. But when

02:32:50.460 --> 02:32:54.060
you think about it, I'm very versatile. There's few people that are as versatile as me. Look

02:32:54.060 --> 02:32:59.980
at this, Inca, human, Spanish, Ceresans, Persians, Koreans, Huns, Tatars. It's too many to mention.

02:32:59.980 --> 02:33:05.660
like 25 different civs. This is also Europe Asia line. I see I see how big are the sift

02:33:05.660 --> 02:33:18.000
differences? Okay, let's answer this together. Warcraft three, general gameplay skill, knowledge

02:33:18.000 --> 02:33:30.200
and theory percentage. Okay. And then race specific skill, percentage, knowledge, micro,

02:33:30.200 --> 02:33:37.000
micro, what are the percentages? You already did that before? Yeah, but now I want to do

02:33:37.000 --> 02:33:48.680
together. This might be something like this. I think you lose 15% scale when you

02:33:48.680 --> 02:33:55.240
race switch from your expertise in Warcraft to another race. Maybe 80-20.

02:33:55.240 --> 02:34:09.520
relatively asymmetric 75 25 65 35 I think 80 20 is 80 20 is good I think if

02:34:09.520 --> 02:34:15.880
you're very new or very experienced this number changes by the way 60 44

02:34:15.880 --> 02:34:41.520
average 80-20 per cosine. 80-2. Same question. Is it 90-10? Let's say I have knowledge of

02:34:41.520 --> 02:34:47.040
what the unique unit does from different sips. It could be 90 10 or 95 5. Yeah, I think so too.

02:34:49.520 --> 02:34:52.080
But let's say it's maybe like 92 eight.

02:34:59.200 --> 02:35:04.240
But if you're so new that you don't even use your sift mechanics, it may even be higher

02:35:04.240 --> 02:35:06.240
Closer to a hundredth.

02:35:11.240 --> 02:35:15.240
Did you play more than two Mapuche games? I did. I don't know why they don't show up.

02:35:17.240 --> 02:35:19.240
Where's Mapuche?

02:35:21.240 --> 02:35:26.240
Yeah, I don't know why they don't show up. I played more. I was spamming Mapuche for a while.

02:35:26.240 --> 02:35:28.240
So this game doesn't have everything.

02:35:28.240 --> 02:35:34.080
Kirby, I think the Warcraft race differences are much more than double the difference in

02:35:34.080 --> 02:35:35.080
Aoe2.

02:35:35.080 --> 02:35:36.080
Yeah, yeah.

02:35:36.080 --> 02:35:41.400
Yeah, it might be 75.

02:35:41.400 --> 02:35:47.880
So in other words, it shouldn't be as difficult for me to race switch, SIF switch in Aoe2

02:35:47.880 --> 02:35:49.280
as it is for people.

02:35:49.280 --> 02:35:51.200
Have I never played Mongols?

02:35:51.200 --> 02:35:54.520
Yeah, I don't like playing Mongols because they're OP.

02:35:54.520 --> 02:35:59.740
They're super OP in AOE 4 so I barely ever touched them and they're OP in AOE 2, I can

02:35:59.740 --> 02:36:00.740
just tell.

02:36:00.740 --> 02:36:03.800
I don't like playing OP shifts.

02:36:03.800 --> 02:36:09.120
Mungles OP in low elo true, you're saying that like Hera doesn't win everything with

02:36:09.120 --> 02:36:12.720
mongles, it's the best shift ever.

02:36:12.720 --> 02:36:18.000
In low elo, mongles are indeed true but if you just position right and you play the game

02:36:18.000 --> 02:36:23.520
with the knowledge required with the minimum level of play at high elo, anything above

02:36:23.520 --> 02:36:31.180
900 you'll find actually that mongo is very easily countered laughs in boar steel laughs in insane amount of meat into a

02:36:31.180 --> 02:36:33.780
Mangeetai rush at eight minutes with monks and

02:36:34.820 --> 02:36:36.820
Springles scorpions

02:36:37.580 --> 02:36:43.100
Like this is just mongo coping people that play mongo to cope with easy wins with no skill

02:36:43.100 --> 02:36:48.700
Well, they have literally zero farms at home and then food economy with 17 villagers idle food economy of zero

02:36:48.820 --> 02:36:51.100
But they keep making gold and wood base

02:36:51.100 --> 02:36:56.580
step lancers and just winning the game with it like actually Mongols aren't

02:36:56.580 --> 02:37:00.420
that good they're actually kind of weak but I just know the specific tricks with

02:37:00.420 --> 02:37:07.220
them how I can win a lot of games with no skill the better in a we for now and

02:37:07.220 --> 02:37:17.140
Mongols were insanely good today we for wrong his best service Chinese ah Chinese

02:37:17.140 --> 02:37:23.840
Chinese, I think legitimately is good at high elo and bad at low elo and I think for me

02:37:23.840 --> 02:37:29.840
they're about average.

02:37:29.840 --> 02:37:36.840
Can you please explain again but refer to units by tanks raised and flying.

02:37:36.840 --> 02:37:42.840
Just ban Arabia, I ban Arabia and I have no problems with Mongols.

02:37:42.840 --> 02:37:52.720
Yeah, where's Aoe4 in the numbers, by the way?

02:37:52.720 --> 02:37:56.360
I think Aoe is much more like Warcraft 3 than Aoe2.

02:37:56.360 --> 02:37:59.240
Aoe4.

02:37:59.240 --> 02:38:00.920
It's something like this.

02:38:00.920 --> 02:38:02.600
Maybe even more than Warcraft.

02:38:02.600 --> 02:38:06.560
It might actually be 7030 or something.

02:38:06.560 --> 02:38:08.560
Do you know Calder personally?

02:38:08.560 --> 02:38:09.560
Yes.

02:38:09.560 --> 02:38:18.720
AoE 4, you're legitimately playing a little minigame when you play certain civs.

02:38:18.720 --> 02:38:27.240
The difference between playing like Delhi where you're going to go for like a tier 2

02:38:27.240 --> 02:38:31.920
sacred side attack or Holy Roman Empire where you play the relic minigame more than anything

02:38:31.920 --> 02:38:36.600
or the old roosts, though I heard they're changed, where you have to kill all the deer

02:38:36.600 --> 02:38:44.960
all over the map. There were such different skills. But Grubby, you're so much better

02:38:44.960 --> 02:38:58.000
on Orc than other races, no? Am I though? Am I though? I'm 25 on Orc, 2250 on Undead.

02:38:58.000 --> 02:39:06.520
There's only 250 MMR difference. That's 10%. By my MMR, if MMR was a straight line,

02:39:06.520 --> 02:39:17.080
which it is not. The disparity between my elo is 10%. When I go from 100% to 90%. If MMR was a

02:39:17.080 --> 02:39:25.000
straight line, which it isn't. I have no idea how to measure the line of MMR. I don't think it's

02:39:25.000 --> 02:39:30.440
them. I don't think it's a straight line at all. I think there's a really big difference between

02:39:30.440 --> 02:39:34.600
25 and 22.50 compared to 250 and 500.

02:39:37.080 --> 02:39:40.360
If you're under player Orc, it has a 20% chance to win.

02:39:40.360 --> 02:39:44.680
That's disgusting, by the way. My under should have no chance against my Orc.

02:39:44.680 --> 02:39:46.760
I find that idea so offensive

02:39:50.280 --> 02:39:54.040
that I would have a 20% chance to win against my Orc, statistically.

02:39:55.880 --> 02:39:57.240
Because my under is trash.

02:40:00.440 --> 02:40:06.780
Grubby, next tournament, you should try to get all the top FPS streamers, like Shroud,

02:40:06.780 --> 02:40:09.060
Summit, Tariq, etc.

02:40:09.060 --> 02:40:10.060
Yeah.

02:40:10.060 --> 02:40:11.460
Hey, I would do that.

02:40:11.460 --> 02:40:12.460
I would do that.

02:40:12.460 --> 02:40:13.460
Would they?

02:40:13.460 --> 02:40:16.620
I don't think they would.

02:40:16.620 --> 02:40:26.620
You're under the MMR is better than my 4 MMRs combined.

02:40:26.620 --> 02:40:29.220
Hey, but don't worry about it, Archbishop Dave.

02:40:29.220 --> 02:40:31.340
It's not the straight line.

02:40:33.020 --> 02:40:34.900
Hey, Gobi, I knew I started playing as the undead race

02:40:34.900 --> 02:40:35.740
for starters.

02:40:35.740 --> 02:40:38.820
Is it bad to use Autocast on the spellcasters?

02:40:38.820 --> 02:40:40.020
No, it's okay.

02:40:40.020 --> 02:40:40.860
It's okay.

02:40:40.860 --> 02:40:42.020
Better to use Autocast.

02:40:43.020 --> 02:40:45.820
Keep Autocast on until you get to 900 MMR

02:40:45.820 --> 02:40:46.980
on the B3 champions.

02:40:48.620 --> 02:40:52.020
You can keep on Karrion Beatles on your Crypt Lords,

02:40:52.020 --> 02:40:55.620
Autocast, Frost Armor on Lich, Autocast,

02:40:55.620 --> 02:40:57.460
or just don't pick it.

02:40:57.460 --> 02:41:01.180
You can keep on Raise Dead and Karris Auto Cast on Banshee and Necro.

02:41:01.180 --> 02:41:05.620
Once you get to 900 MMR, try to turn it off when you're against creeps.

02:41:05.620 --> 02:41:09.220
And don't have Hero Auto Cast at all.

02:41:09.220 --> 02:41:14.660
Hey, Grubby, love the whole tournament.

02:41:14.660 --> 02:41:16.260
Watch the whole thing since the coaching arc.

02:41:16.260 --> 02:41:18.740
I don't even play Workout 3 at all, but I fell in love with the whole thing and I'll

02:41:18.740 --> 02:41:22.700
definitely save up for Workout 3 unless I become a streamer across fingers to get invited

02:41:22.700 --> 02:41:23.700
for next edition.

02:41:23.700 --> 02:41:26.460
all right you get you need five hundred ccp minimum

02:41:26.460 --> 02:41:30.500
five hundred concurrent viewers crimson doll

02:41:30.500 --> 02:41:32.580
hope you enjoy the show for me what about

02:41:32.580 --> 02:41:37.200
real-life celebs instead of streamers like sydney sweeney

02:41:37.200 --> 02:41:40.700
uh... leonardo de caprio et cetera i think it would be awesome for the game

02:41:40.700 --> 02:41:42.820
i think that's cool

02:41:42.820 --> 02:41:49.820
i i do want to be picky though i wouldn't just invite any celebrity

02:41:49.820 --> 02:41:54.860
Can we get Trump in the next one?

02:41:54.860 --> 02:41:56.380
Yeah, let's get Trump.

02:41:56.380 --> 02:42:01.020
Let's get all the ex-presidents, Trunk and Joe Biden, and we get Barack Obama, and we

02:42:01.020 --> 02:42:03.100
get, yeah, let's get them all.

02:42:03.100 --> 02:42:04.100
Let's get them all.

02:42:04.100 --> 02:42:06.100
And then what about rappers?

02:42:06.100 --> 02:42:11.780
Snoop Dogg, Eminem, 50 cents.

02:42:11.780 --> 02:42:14.500
We get Elon, yeah.

02:42:14.500 --> 02:42:18.860
And you're allowed to let people play for you.

02:42:18.860 --> 02:42:20.060
What about Onlyfans stars?

02:42:21.960 --> 02:42:26.960
I think if I knew someone's main content is Onlyfans, I think I might not invite

02:42:26.960 --> 02:42:27.860
them to the event.

02:42:28.660 --> 02:42:34.960
Because the goal is to get people interested in Warcraft 3, but I'm afraid

02:42:34.960 --> 02:42:39.960
that many people wouldn't be strong enough to keep thinking about Warcraft 3

02:42:39.960 --> 02:42:44.260
if I do that because of the strong physiological drive.

02:42:44.260 --> 02:42:52.260
You know, the procreation drive that's being baited too much.

02:42:52.260 --> 02:43:05.060
There would be too much baiting.

02:43:05.060 --> 02:43:09.860
He draws the line there, yeah.

02:43:09.860 --> 02:43:18.600
Jeremy Lin is basketball player that I know played Dota and pretty sure played some dub

02:43:18.600 --> 02:43:19.600
C3.

02:43:19.600 --> 02:43:25.860
Okay, Jeremy Lin, can you ask him for me since you know him, Trusloth?

02:43:25.860 --> 02:43:31.860
Jeremy Lin, I see, I see.

02:43:31.860 --> 02:43:42.820
Kimony is an American former basketball player. 1988. He's a bit old. 38 years old. You're

02:43:42.820 --> 02:43:55.940
the famous one lol. Yeah, but you said you know him. We gotta leverage your contact.

02:43:55.940 --> 02:44:03.620
you know what would be cool guys if we could get a tournament with like sport stars like

02:44:03.620 --> 02:44:18.300
my favorite sport stars what's his name Gary Kasparov Roger Federer Nadal 76 months

02:44:18.300 --> 02:44:20.300
Yohan Cruyff?

02:44:22.060 --> 02:44:24.060
Ronald Kuman?

02:44:26.860 --> 02:44:28.860
Hiddink?

02:44:35.980 --> 02:44:39.180
Yohan Cruyff is dead? Wait, really? Fuck.

02:44:41.260 --> 02:44:45.980
When? Ah, shit. 2016.

02:44:45.980 --> 02:44:51.980
I wasn't doing invitations, was I?

02:44:51.980 --> 02:44:52.980
Gigi.

02:44:52.980 --> 02:44:53.980
Gigi.

02:44:53.980 --> 02:44:54.980
A decade.

02:44:54.980 --> 02:44:59.980
Put him on a date then.

02:44:59.980 --> 02:45:07.980
You know it's Gillett and not personally, but I know of him.

02:45:07.980 --> 02:45:08.980
David Attenborough.

02:45:08.980 --> 02:45:09.980
Yeah.

02:45:09.980 --> 02:45:28.620
Instant queue.

02:45:28.620 --> 02:45:33.820
Oh yeah.

02:45:33.820 --> 02:45:35.540
They added this now for some servers.

02:45:35.540 --> 02:45:37.340
What do you guys think about it?

02:45:37.340 --> 02:45:46.820
five second cooldown. You can queue your actions before. I like the cooldown because I often

02:45:46.820 --> 02:45:50.660
tap into the game late, but what I don't like about it is that you can queue actions

02:45:50.660 --> 02:45:56.660
already. It takes away the frenzy where you're supposed to play takes right. The headliner.

02:45:56.660 --> 02:46:02.180
Thanks Taliesin. Who's playing where's UI? Alright, alright, alright, I'll turn it on,

02:46:02.180 --> 02:46:10.220
I think 3 seconds is better than 5, yeah maybe, but something that really takes me like 3-5

02:46:10.220 --> 02:46:11.940
seconds to get into the game.

02:46:11.940 --> 02:46:16.860
Like it doesn't tap from W3 champions fast enough into the game.

02:46:16.860 --> 02:46:19.580
So I'm just always late with my hero, it felt pretty bad.

02:46:19.580 --> 02:46:24.580
So I like that they did this, but you can send your acolytes to gold and take one and

02:46:24.580 --> 02:46:28.700
make altar and send ghoul to lumber all before the timer resolves which is a

02:46:28.700 --> 02:46:30.220
little OP

02:46:30.220 --> 02:46:42.220
they even allow zooming out now these days guys

02:46:42.220 --> 02:46:51.740
see 50-50 that it dies so you always want to chase the chicken

02:46:51.740 --> 02:46:56.740
to where your hero can easily summon

02:47:04.740 --> 02:47:06.740
we will investigate if we can disable the Q-ing

02:47:06.740 --> 02:47:08.740
oh, okay, Elephant, yeah

02:47:08.740 --> 02:47:13.740
I know you said you don't know if you can yet

02:47:18.740 --> 02:47:20.740
I'm chasing my chicken right now

02:47:20.740 --> 02:47:22.740
Good luck with that.

02:47:44.740 --> 02:47:47.740
I don't care about APM guys, APM is for vanity.

02:47:47.740 --> 02:47:54.740
Who cares if Hera has more APM?

02:48:01.980 --> 02:48:08.980
I forgot to summon Forp Singer.

02:48:17.740 --> 02:48:42.740
I do care a lot about that, that was not good.

02:48:42.740 --> 02:48:55.380
Disrespecting me thinking I can't do it

02:49:12.740 --> 02:49:17.740
I'm gonna die.

02:49:17.740 --> 02:49:21.740
My life would be

02:49:21.740 --> 02:49:26.740
Oh, I'm gonna die.

02:49:26.740 --> 02:49:30.740
I'm gonna die.

02:49:30.740 --> 02:49:33.740
I'm gonna die.

02:49:33.740 --> 02:49:36.740
Where should I go?

02:49:36.740 --> 02:49:39.740
I'm gonna die.

02:49:39.740 --> 02:49:41.740
for the next game.

02:49:41.740 --> 02:49:43.740
I should order.

02:49:43.740 --> 02:49:46.740
My vengeance is yours.

02:49:46.740 --> 02:49:48.740
At last.

02:49:48.740 --> 02:49:50.740
Yeah!

02:49:53.740 --> 02:49:54.740
Yeah!

02:49:54.740 --> 02:49:56.740
This is it!

02:50:00.740 --> 02:50:02.740
Yes!

02:50:02.740 --> 02:50:04.740
Let's go!

02:50:05.740 --> 02:50:07.740
Yeah!

02:50:37.740 --> 02:50:41.740
I believe I have a purpose.

02:50:41.740 --> 02:50:44.740
My summoner is complete.

02:50:44.740 --> 02:50:47.740
My power force is 100%.

02:50:47.740 --> 02:50:50.740
Who's that?

02:50:50.740 --> 02:50:52.740
I'll be your station.

02:50:52.740 --> 02:50:54.740
Yeah.

02:50:54.740 --> 02:50:56.740
Yeah.

02:50:56.740 --> 02:50:58.740
Yeah.

02:50:58.740 --> 02:51:00.740
Call me.

02:51:00.740 --> 02:51:02.740
The order leads me.

02:51:02.740 --> 02:51:05.740
Yeah.

02:52:35.740 --> 02:52:45.740
I'm getting nerfed.

02:52:45.740 --> 02:53:02.740
I was in the United now I tried.

02:53:02.740 --> 02:53:17.580
If you want to win that bath then go ahead and win then.

02:53:17.580 --> 02:53:24.580
Why is he throwing rocks?

02:53:47.580 --> 02:53:49.580
I

02:53:49.580 --> 02:53:56.580
of

02:53:56.580 --> 02:54:03.580
of

02:54:03.580 --> 02:54:06.580
of

02:54:06.580 --> 02:54:09.580
of

02:54:09.580 --> 02:54:14.580
of

02:54:14.580 --> 02:54:16.580
Just in this runout

02:54:44.580 --> 02:54:46.580
I don't know what it is.

02:54:46.580 --> 02:54:48.580
My name is...

02:54:48.580 --> 02:54:50.580
Research Mordor.

02:54:50.580 --> 02:54:52.580
My questions.

02:54:52.580 --> 02:54:54.580
My pieces.

02:54:56.580 --> 02:54:58.580
My name is...

02:54:58.580 --> 02:55:00.580
Rock.

02:55:00.580 --> 02:55:02.580
Rock.

02:55:02.580 --> 02:55:04.580
Rock.

02:55:04.580 --> 02:55:06.580
Rock.

02:55:06.580 --> 02:55:08.580
Rock.

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and

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and

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the

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I think you should see this, the summoning is complete.

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You caught me.

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No way!

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I think you should see this.

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I...

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My vision...

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As you...

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You caught me.

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GG. I beat 2400 MMR. Nice.

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I actually learned from the tournament.

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I never had the confidence to play against Night Elf as I've been for a long time.

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The pre-Devour was sick, yeah the Devour started before the animation finished on the bear,

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the Insta-Sack, learned from Hera, yes.

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Who is that guy from Peru?

03:03:48.180 --> 03:03:50.100
Yeah, he's from Peru.

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His name is Hunter, he's the third best South American player.

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Decent for you, thanks.

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Nice reduced devour

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What's this

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So we I just get out of context clip

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Grumpy it was like I was watching happy yeah

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Yeah, this undead play would have beaten Grubby's org so hard.

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Yeah, you think?

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You think?

03:04:34.720 --> 03:04:37.560
Uh, one thing to add, your slaughterhouse was too far in the back.

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Oh, Chippy in front, right?

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Too slow in awful positioning.

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Kappa.

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That's a reference to the video.

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Okay, I don't know. I don't know.

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You little snagger, good for you.

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You're under this definitely your second best race.

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I think it is now, weirdly enough.

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Weirdly enough.

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Look at that, almost 2300.

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I should try to get to 24 sometime.

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That's a challenge.

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It'll be fun.

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Did you keep your fiends in the back by the end by accident or do you feel they'll be

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killed?

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No, it was accident.

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Can someone explain what coil means?

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Yeah, coil is a spell from the Death Knight. It's called Death Coil. It's a 100-200-300 damage spell or 200-400-600 HP heal.

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Depending on if you cast it on enemy or defense.

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Grabby, how did you crush the first battle like that? Did you hero focus too hard?

03:05:42.180 --> 03:05:44.180
Ooh, clips.

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I hero focused.

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Let's look at the tools. I'm level 3-1, he's 3-2, so I have an advantage in a third hero.

03:05:57.780 --> 03:06:07.100
I'm 42 pop. He has two bears, two dryads. Let's see. Let's say that he has eight

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Wisdom Woods, five on gold, that's 13. Two heroes is 23. Two bears is 31. Two dryads is

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37, 2 archers is 41. So I think we're on similar population right now. I have a

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scroll of the beast which is a double attack upgrade on all units and heroes

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for 45 seconds. It is very strong and I actually used it. I think I win this

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because of scroll.

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There's the scroll on a ghoul and three heroes.

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He immediately abolished it on everything.

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Never mind.

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It's gone.

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It's gone.

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Okay, then I guess I won by a rod of necromancy.

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Look, I have two rods.

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I try to keep my ghouls away from demon.

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also low mana or he could have emulated. There's the first rod that's three units.

03:07:09.800 --> 03:07:16.840
There's the second rod. I have Inval Potion. Look at all the skeletons, that's four skeletons.

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And I have good items on Lich, Circloth Gloves orb. And I can use the forest to hide destroyers.

03:07:28.360 --> 03:07:34.240
So they suddenly become a non-target for him. Does this spell reduce the number of auto-tags

03:07:34.240 --> 03:07:43.040
dryads to? It can. Optimal is dryad spear, abolish, and then dryad spear again. But if

03:07:43.040 --> 03:07:47.560
you're on auto-cast, they will just do it or interrupt it at like any time where it's

03:07:47.560 --> 03:07:53.640
going to happen. So yes, if dryads dispel, there's most likely going to be a slower following

03:07:53.640 --> 03:08:00.480
auto attack, but I don't know the exact DPS. I feel like if you don't focus Ghouls, you're

03:08:00.480 --> 03:08:06.600
always going to be losing fight against Undead. Yeah, it's actually so easy to ignore Ghouls

03:08:06.600 --> 03:08:12.040
because you think they'll eventually die to splash damage anyway, emulation, fork, whatever.

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But and I make the same mistake sometimes that I don't focus Ghouls and archers because

03:08:17.820 --> 03:08:25.560
I see I see like low HP tier one units as trash units like what are you more afraid of dryads and bears or archers

03:08:25.960 --> 03:08:28.400
Well, you're more afraid of dryads and bears of course

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But the archer is the easy to kill unit that gives exp makes you get level ups and has high damage for their cost

03:08:35.460 --> 03:08:37.380
so

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It's actually yeah, it's the same with ghouls ghouls are very high damage high mobility high damage

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But they're very untanky so they should absolutely be killed one by one before going for a hero

03:08:47.360 --> 03:08:50.680
Yeah, I think target firing heroes was maybe not correct for him

03:08:53.040 --> 03:08:55.400
Hey, I just wanted to say well done for the tournament

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I was so impressed that how well organized and produced it all was with the guest you brought in as well

03:08:59.000 --> 03:09:02.200
Thank you for the great event. Thank you man. Thank you man

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I see that as a big compliment to also my whole mod squad who helped organize so much of it

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Probably have any tips for a 1400 mmR human against undead I have 20% win rates in that matchup

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You have to fast expand and then attack the tier 3 with knights flying.

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Like how Yamato played it correctly.

03:09:32.540 --> 03:09:36.700
Do you play fast expo into tier 3, Skifi?

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Fast expo into tier 3, Triple Hero.

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With knights and flyings.

03:09:45.380 --> 03:09:50.380
It's the only reliable way to win against Undead with humans.

03:09:50.380 --> 03:09:59.620
Grubby, there was this one moment where you DM'd to me and you asked Soda, Cast, with

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no explanation in the middle of a game.

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It's like the kind of notes I write for myself, what I'm like in the midst of something and

03:10:07.220 --> 03:10:11.700
I need to write myself a note so that I remember what I need to do later and I'll write something

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like that.

03:10:12.700 --> 03:10:18.780
read it back I'm like that could fucking mean anything what the fuck does that mean are you

03:10:18.780 --> 03:10:24.140
asking me if I think it's a good idea you're suggesting him and I just need to tie it together

03:10:24.780 --> 03:10:30.140
he already agreed and I just need to join the server there's no idea what you mean

03:10:36.060 --> 03:10:39.900
I don't even remember now what it meant whether he was already confirmed or not

03:10:39.900 --> 03:10:40.900
Rui.

03:10:40.900 --> 03:10:46.220
Rado said, I watched Undead do Lich first to harass Human Expo.

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It was pretty cool, but he lost in the end.

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Human was Yamato coach.

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Okay.

03:10:51.020 --> 03:10:55.020
Human was Yamato's coach.

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Death Note.

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Okay, so Death Note won against a guy that lich first harassed.

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No, no, no.

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I opened that conversation, Rui.

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I think I DM'd him, and then I don't know what order I DM'd you.

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Where's our bro Logan?

03:11:08.220 --> 03:11:09.780
He didn't want to come.

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I get him? I think if I feed him now, I can convince him to come upstairs. But he's becoming

03:11:16.940 --> 03:11:21.380
an old boy. He doesn't always want to come upstairs anymore. Unless I carry him. I could

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just carry him. We tried to like, we tried to ask him to come up and he just was like

03:11:27.660 --> 03:11:33.020
this. He was lying in his bed. And he just looked like that. And we're like, come on,

03:11:33.020 --> 03:11:42.380
well then come out of it he's like okay just leave him then yeah at first he was

03:11:42.380 --> 03:11:45.740
downstairs with the wife didn't want to come with me wife he's still downstairs

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and after that he's still don't come up just want to sleep in the bed after that

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I found out he was streaming the tournament at that moment already

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already. Ah, gravity has to every been a spiritual success, it's a Warcraft 3. There's a couple

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of games that are a little bit like Warcraft 3, I wouldn't call them a spiritual successor,

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but the games that are a little bit like Warcraft 3, a little bit, just a bit. There's Spell

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12 Force 3, Godsorn, and it was that other game Scouring.

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I think these three are the closest to it.

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They even named this similar to Reforged.

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I think Reforged is the most forced addendum I've ever seen, the most horrible name addition

03:12:45.140 --> 03:12:52.420
that I've ever seen, especially after Warcraft Reforged, but it's actually before, but anyway,

03:12:52.420 --> 03:12:59.220
I think there's such an ugly addendum, Reforged. But anyway, outside of that, the campaign was

03:12:59.220 --> 03:13:02.420
actually good. There's also mild sexual themes.

03:13:02.420 --> 03:13:17.340
bought sold why are those similar because this game is magic buffs debuffs units RTS

03:13:17.340 --> 03:13:23.380
battles and and kind of like heroes in XP you see plus 20 XP so this game has

03:13:23.380 --> 03:13:27.460
heroes in units that's why it's a little bit similar even though it's it looks

03:13:27.460 --> 03:13:32.900
much more fantasy realism than like the cartoony cartoonishness of Warcraft 3. This game was

03:13:32.900 --> 03:13:40.260
legitimately quite fun. And then there's God Sword which is again an RTS with heroes. It's a

03:13:40.260 --> 03:13:44.180
little bit like Age of Mythology and Age of Mythology is a little bit like Warcraft 3 but

03:13:44.180 --> 03:13:57.140
it's quite different. This game was quite fun too. And then the Scouring is actually unapologetically

03:13:57.140 --> 03:14:04.140
very copycat-ish. It's very similar. It's orcs and humans.

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And there's no real spiritual successor to the game. You know, the first spiritual successor

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to Warcraft 3 was Stormgate.

03:14:25.580 --> 03:14:31.980
By the team that was in the studio that made Warcraft 3 and Starcraft 2 Wings of Liberty,

03:14:31.980 --> 03:14:38.500
we bring you the new RTS that's a little bit of everything, Stormgate.

03:14:38.500 --> 03:14:43.360
There's creeping but there's no heroes, which means you piss off both Starcraft and Warcraft

03:14:43.360 --> 03:14:47.380
fans.

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Matchmaking service disconnected.

03:14:50.380 --> 03:14:53.580
W2 Champions is down.

03:14:53.580 --> 03:14:54.580
Why did Stormgate fail?

03:14:54.580 --> 03:14:58.100
No, we can't discuss that. I only have two to three hours left of streaming.

03:14:59.140 --> 03:15:00.100
There's no time.

03:15:09.220 --> 03:15:12.100
Kirby, why did you back then choose Warcraft 3 over SE?

03:15:13.780 --> 03:15:19.300
Starcraft Prood War, eventually all my friend list was migrating, so I was just bandwagoning.

03:15:24.580 --> 03:15:35.940
Much making servers being updated, give it a minute. Okay, could be any more old and

03:15:35.940 --> 03:15:42.820
era. I think I satisfied my old and era craving for now, can always come back to it. The more

03:15:42.820 --> 03:15:49.660
you play something, the more like small flaws come to the forefront. And the thing that

03:15:49.660 --> 03:15:55.820
I have right now the most is that the music is starting to feel repetitive for all an era.

03:15:55.820 --> 03:16:01.340
I would like a little bit more music. I am interested to revisit Slave Aspire 2,

03:16:02.620 --> 03:16:08.300
but I also don't mind waiting for more patches. For Slave Aspire 2, I think Regent is extremely

03:16:08.300 --> 03:16:15.420
fun, so is Necrobinder, but I'm not enjoying Ironclad, Defect, and Silent as much. Silent,

03:16:15.420 --> 03:16:22.700
because I keep hearing CZOP. It feels like the Watcher. Defect has like weird cards and Ironclad

03:16:22.700 --> 03:16:30.140
felt a bit weak, but Necrobinder was fun and so was Regent, but I already played them both and won

03:16:30.140 --> 03:16:36.620
Ascension 10, so like I'm fine coming back to Slay the Spire 2 later and I have Age of Empires 2

03:16:36.620 --> 03:16:38.460
to focus on now because I have a tournament.

03:16:45.420 --> 03:17:02.740
Oh, I think early access to late inspire 2 felt amazing, but it's okay to play it again

03:17:02.740 --> 03:17:03.740
later too.

03:17:03.740 --> 03:17:06.540
What do you think about spire 2 drama?

03:17:06.540 --> 03:17:12.460
Honestly, it's a nothing burger, it's really stupid.

03:17:12.460 --> 03:17:13.860
I think they'll survive it.

03:17:13.860 --> 03:17:24.120
are you going to start practicing every two? Very soon, I think, very soon. This week,

03:17:24.120 --> 03:17:34.640
for sure. And it's going to be starting with suckage. It's going to be starting with suckage

03:17:34.640 --> 03:17:41.440
because my control groups are kind of a mess. And now that there's a tournament, I need

03:17:41.440 --> 03:17:55.920
to first fix my control groups so that they're more long term. Can her adopt a death note

03:17:55.920 --> 03:18:01.320
personality for your coaching for a good bit throughout the tournament? You got to keep

03:18:01.320 --> 03:18:06.320
in mind, I didn't organize death notes. Like I like death note a lot more now than before

03:18:06.320 --> 03:18:10.720
before we didn't get along that well. And there was nothing big that happened, but he

03:18:10.720 --> 03:18:26.720
He was like, coaching someone or getting coached by someone when playing against me that I don't like, and then I was like, alright, you're against me, you're against me, you're the enemy.

03:18:26.720 --> 03:18:31.720
But he did a really cool job coaching.

03:18:31.720 --> 03:18:35.120
Death Note is now, was that the whole meet?

03:18:35.120 --> 03:18:38.220
Yeah, then I made fun of his Dispel Complaint.

03:18:38.220 --> 03:18:42.720
I called it a skill issue and I think he was offended.

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And that's pretty much it.

03:18:44.720 --> 03:18:46.220
There's no big deal, really.

03:18:46.220 --> 03:18:50.220
Because this is, this complaint he has that Priest don't Dispel,

03:18:50.220 --> 03:18:52.720
that there's a problem with the game and I think it's a skill issue.

03:18:52.720 --> 03:18:58.720
The reason that Priest don't Dispel is because they're stuck in AutoCast heal animation.

03:18:58.720 --> 03:19:03.020
and Orc has to manual cast everything except Bloodlust

03:19:03.020 --> 03:19:06.320
and they get all these auto casts as human

03:19:06.320 --> 03:19:11.720
if that's such a problem then turn off auto cast on one priest to make sure that he has Dispel mana

03:19:11.720 --> 03:19:15.880
but nooo I need to auto cast all my heals

03:19:15.880 --> 03:19:19.380
now Dispel can't be cast that's a skill issue

03:19:19.380 --> 03:19:24.140
he complains he got Priest Merc nerfed

03:19:24.140 --> 03:19:27.840
I did get it nerfed and it should be nerfed

03:19:27.840 --> 03:19:31.840
But anyway, I got it nerfed is a little bit rich, right?

03:19:31.840 --> 03:19:33.840
Because I'm not blizzard.

03:19:33.840 --> 03:19:37.840
I don't control blizzard, right?

03:19:37.840 --> 03:19:43.840
Everyone is allowed to give balance suggestions and whatever they believe in, they put forward.

03:19:43.840 --> 03:19:50.840
Now, if I make a very good argument because I'm completely right and it's healthy for the game, then maybe I can convince them.

03:19:50.840 --> 03:19:55.840
And sometimes, not at all.

03:19:55.840 --> 03:20:00.000
Troll Priest, I will die on this hill. Troll Priest being available at two minutes,

03:20:00.000 --> 03:20:05.440
dispelling and completely invalidating several heroes is extremely bad for the game, bad game design.

03:20:07.600 --> 03:20:10.240
And it looks like they believed it, at least for now.

03:20:13.280 --> 03:20:17.360
You have good leverage though, I think they would pitch your opinion higher than other pros.

03:20:17.360 --> 03:20:19.440
I put my opinion higher too.

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But if the other pros have some ideas that they think will improve the game and aren't

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just self-serving, because I barely play ladder anymore.

03:20:33.160 --> 03:20:37.840
Troll Priest is at 3 minutes though, and now it is, it was at 2 minutes before.

03:20:37.840 --> 03:20:44.000
Look, I'm not going to attack my own opinions and say that they're the worst, like I believe

03:20:44.000 --> 03:20:45.000
in them.

03:20:45.000 --> 03:20:47.720
But what Blizzard does is up to them.

03:20:47.720 --> 03:20:53.400
Do you want to know some of my other opinions that didn't get adopted?

03:20:53.400 --> 03:20:56.160
I think Torrent Resistance Skin was going to be too strong.

03:20:56.160 --> 03:21:01.560
I think Heal Solve, giving 10 HP per second instead of 9 is too strong.

03:21:01.560 --> 03:21:02.560
They did it anyway.

03:21:02.560 --> 03:21:04.840
I gave my opinion on it.

03:21:04.840 --> 03:21:12.160
I thought Hunter's armor type change was going to be too strong.

03:21:12.160 --> 03:21:13.880
They did it anyway.

03:21:13.880 --> 03:21:15.560
And many times they were actually right.

03:21:15.560 --> 03:21:17.640
I was wrong.

03:21:17.640 --> 03:21:29.760
They have their own thinking, they have their own thoughts about the game, so they make

03:21:29.760 --> 03:21:32.160
their own decisions.

03:21:32.160 --> 03:21:37.280
It just sounds like the impotence and the helplessness of people that cannot form a

03:21:37.280 --> 03:21:41.960
good argument and think about all the aspects of the situation and then complain, oh Grubby

03:21:41.960 --> 03:21:46.800
did this, no, Blizzard did this, I may have some compelling arguments that they believed

03:21:46.800 --> 03:21:48.800
Or maybe not.

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Oh look, it's the Heratric.

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Die.

03:22:16.800 --> 03:22:31.120
Okay, I'll go keep her down.

03:22:31.120 --> 03:22:32.120
Pull the noob.

03:22:32.120 --> 03:22:41.120
I could and he couldn't say anything back because he's muted.

03:22:41.120 --> 03:22:50.860
Goblin laboratory, should be mine.

03:22:50.860 --> 03:22:52.600
You mean libraries?

03:22:52.600 --> 03:22:55.200
You mean goblin libraries?

03:22:55.200 --> 03:23:01.200
Oh shit, I made it against the trees.

03:23:01.200 --> 03:23:16.880
would be so mad.

03:23:16.880 --> 03:23:29.200
Simply pick our games today, I saw his results, terrible, lost 2-1-1.

03:23:29.200 --> 03:23:33.640
was playing too yeah so he went like six one

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On your mark, rush down the rail, on your mark.

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Is there danger?

03:25:46.700 --> 03:25:48.700
The time is now.

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and

03:26:42.880 --> 03:26:46.480
it was a great call and say the last days

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thank you

03:26:53.480 --> 03:26:55.480
We can't do that.

03:26:55.480 --> 03:26:57.480
I've enjoyed this.

03:27:23.480 --> 03:27:25.480
I

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The nature is restless.

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The king is the danger.

03:28:00.480 --> 03:28:04.480
Make this come back.

03:28:04.480 --> 03:28:10.480
Your feelings are always having games taken.

03:28:10.480 --> 03:28:14.480
Make this come back.

03:28:14.480 --> 03:28:17.480
The nature is restless.

03:28:17.480 --> 03:28:20.480
The king is the danger.

03:29:20.480 --> 03:29:27.480
That will give the blade a drink.

03:29:27.480 --> 03:29:28.740
It's thirsty.

03:29:28.740 --> 03:29:31.260
One blade thirsty.

03:29:31.260 --> 03:29:38.400
Oh my God, the time is now.

03:29:38.400 --> 03:29:43.520
Our warriors have been raised in the great outdoors.

03:29:43.520 --> 03:29:44.520
Naturally.

03:29:44.520 --> 03:29:45.520
Naturally, they were.

03:29:45.520 --> 03:29:46.520
What is nature's call?

03:29:46.520 --> 03:29:47.520
Let us know.

03:29:47.520 --> 03:29:49.520
By the spirits you must act.

03:29:49.520 --> 03:29:51.520
Command me, I have wisdom.

03:29:53.520 --> 03:29:55.520
To my blade persons,

03:29:55.520 --> 03:29:56.520
make sure you have wisdom.

03:29:56.520 --> 03:29:58.520
Our warriors have engaged in me.

03:29:58.520 --> 03:30:00.520
Time is now.

03:30:03.520 --> 03:30:04.520
Ha!

03:30:04.520 --> 03:30:05.520
I'll be being guided.

03:30:05.520 --> 03:30:07.520
Is there a way?

03:30:07.520 --> 03:30:08.520
Let me take you home.

03:30:08.520 --> 03:30:10.520
Take the light of the sea.

03:30:10.520 --> 03:30:12.520
I'll be being guided.

03:30:12.520 --> 03:30:14.520
I'll be being guided.

03:30:14.520 --> 03:30:15.520
Ha!

03:30:45.520 --> 03:30:47.520
Are we doing it, baby?

03:31:15.520 --> 03:31:17.520
Oh

03:31:43.360 --> 03:31:45.360
Mama

03:31:45.520 --> 03:32:08.100
Yes, Tango's ass.

03:32:08.100 --> 03:32:11.100
What is nature's call?

03:32:11.100 --> 03:32:13.100
Hi!

03:32:13.100 --> 03:32:29.100
I had to take the intelligent... nice rings by the way.

03:32:29.100 --> 03:32:36.100
i have to take the intelligence item with demon honor which kind of sucks

03:33:29.100 --> 03:33:31.100
What is it?

03:33:31.100 --> 03:33:33.100
What is Necruscal?

03:33:33.100 --> 03:33:34.100
What?

03:33:34.100 --> 03:33:36.100
Are we being invaded?

03:33:39.100 --> 03:33:41.100
Are we being invaded?

03:33:43.100 --> 03:33:44.100
What?

03:33:44.100 --> 03:33:46.100
What is Necruscal?

03:33:46.100 --> 03:33:48.100
What is Necruscal?

03:33:48.100 --> 03:33:50.100
Are we being invaded?

03:33:52.100 --> 03:33:54.100
Just a little.

03:34:24.100 --> 03:34:26.100
I'm going to re-frost where I'm soon.

03:34:54.100 --> 03:34:56.100
I think I got it.

03:34:56.100 --> 03:34:57.100
I think I got it.

03:34:57.100 --> 03:35:00.100
Our warriors have engaged the aliens.

03:35:00.100 --> 03:35:02.100
What are you doing in Vegas?

03:35:02.100 --> 03:35:04.100
It's the time of this now.

03:35:04.100 --> 03:35:08.100
Our sacred road is being desecrated.

03:35:08.100 --> 03:35:09.100
Hi!

03:35:09.100 --> 03:35:12.100
That is the wilds. I've been eight past.

03:35:12.100 --> 03:35:14.100
Research finished.

03:35:14.100 --> 03:35:16.100
Is there trouble?

03:35:19.100 --> 03:35:21.100
What are you doing in Vegas?

03:35:21.100 --> 03:35:23.100
command

03:35:26.380 --> 03:35:28.380
Our warriors have engaged the day

03:35:28.380 --> 03:35:30.380
What is the danger?

03:35:30.380 --> 03:35:32.380
By the surprise the crown is full

03:35:32.380 --> 03:35:34.380
Did I help you?

03:35:34.380 --> 03:35:36.380
Hi, what is making sound?

03:35:36.380 --> 03:35:38.380
I'm just drawing the pilot

03:35:38.380 --> 03:35:41.900
The sleeper has a wake where shall I strike?

03:35:41.900 --> 03:35:43.900
Our warriors have engaged the day

03:35:43.900 --> 03:35:45.900
Hi, what is making sound?

03:35:45.900 --> 03:35:47.900
Before the truce

03:35:47.900 --> 03:35:49.900
Will be being invaded by the flag

03:36:19.900 --> 03:36:33.080
15 seconds for another orb

03:37:03.080 --> 03:37:05.080
I don't know why I'm doing this now.

03:37:05.080 --> 03:37:07.080
The soul has to be in danger.

03:37:07.080 --> 03:37:10.080
This game is slow for us to fight back.

03:37:10.080 --> 03:37:11.080
No!

03:37:17.080 --> 03:37:20.080
Our safety troves being desecrated.

03:37:23.080 --> 03:37:24.080
Save it.

03:38:03.080 --> 03:38:10.080
So easy.

03:38:10.080 --> 03:38:19.400
How could this under the spell, Raju?

03:38:19.400 --> 03:38:20.400
He has one of negation.

03:38:20.400 --> 03:38:21.400
Is this easy?

03:38:21.400 --> 03:38:22.400
Yeah, it's super over.

03:38:22.400 --> 03:38:25.400
It's just easy, yeah, it's super over.

03:38:25.400 --> 03:38:32.400
of

03:38:32.400 --> 03:38:38.400
the

03:38:38.400 --> 03:38:45.400
of

03:38:45.400 --> 03:38:50.400
the

03:38:50.400 --> 03:38:52.760
That's 40 XP

03:40:50.400 --> 03:41:01.920
I came for some nostalgia, but the training arcs, the clan war, everything was some of

03:41:01.920 --> 03:41:04.640
the best content I have watched in a long time.

03:41:04.640 --> 03:41:20.320
That's so nice.

03:41:20.320 --> 03:41:22.880
He tried to coil my keeper but he coiled a gargoyle.

03:41:22.880 --> 03:41:23.880
Haha.

03:41:23.880 --> 03:41:24.880
GG.

03:41:24.880 --> 03:41:25.880
That's game.

03:41:25.880 --> 03:41:30.400
Did you see that?

03:41:30.400 --> 03:41:32.800
Can we see a nice warden game please?

03:41:32.800 --> 03:41:34.360
For Pokes' sake, D.

03:41:34.360 --> 03:41:37.800
I attacked an undead for Tyler's sake.

03:41:37.800 --> 03:41:41.240
I attacked an undead in their base for Tyler's sake.

03:41:41.240 --> 03:41:43.160
But of course I have rejuvenation.

03:41:43.160 --> 03:41:46.160
He didn't have it.

03:41:46.160 --> 03:41:59.560
Thanks for the research and some Warcraft 3 content.

03:41:59.560 --> 03:42:00.560
My pleasure.

03:42:00.560 --> 03:42:10.280
Thank you very much, MTC and Amin669, Pox, I don't know, Pox Warden, and I prefer Demon

03:42:10.280 --> 03:42:11.280
right now.

03:42:11.280 --> 03:42:15.920
Do you think you should be able to half-care Control Group your opponent's hero?

03:42:15.920 --> 03:42:23.460
know. It might be difficult, but it could have been fun with an FFA tournament, point

03:42:23.460 --> 03:42:29.900
base score from where you place. No, I thought about FFA tournament, I think. I think FFA

03:42:29.900 --> 03:42:36.740
is great for a shit show with different skill levels, content, banter, trash talk, and no

03:42:36.740 --> 03:42:43.580
training arc. But a training arc into FFA isn't fun because it is very unfair. Because

03:42:43.580 --> 03:42:47.740
alliances matter more than training. My events are about

03:42:47.740 --> 03:42:52.820
training and then performance. I do like alternative game modes,

03:42:53.300 --> 03:42:56.900
like 44 to be two, three, three, three, three is something

03:42:56.900 --> 03:43:00.720
we've never done yet. So that could be fun for a future. But

03:43:00.720 --> 03:43:03.620
it has to be tied together in a meaningful way that is more

03:43:03.620 --> 03:43:08.320
than just, by the way, we're going to play a four before fun.

03:43:08.320 --> 03:43:10.860
It's just, it's just totally random. The result doesn't

03:43:10.860 --> 03:43:15.340
matter. I really like it when they like ties in. It's like, well, you got to play

03:43:15.340 --> 03:43:19.420
4v4, and you didn't know you were going to play 4v4, but now it's part of it.

03:43:19.420 --> 03:43:24.140
And in fact, if you win it, you may have good playoff brackets. That was so much fun.

03:43:29.420 --> 03:43:34.380
I was surprised to learn 3v3 wasn't popular on W3 Champions. I remember it being popular

03:43:34.380 --> 03:43:38.860
and being it a long time ago. Alright, calm down, buddy. First of all, it wasn't that long ago,

03:43:38.860 --> 03:43:45.660
and I remember it as well. In 2003, 4, 5, and 6, 3 on 3 was very popular on Bnet. It was very easy to

03:43:45.660 --> 03:43:50.140
find game, you weren't in queue all that long. It was my favorite multiplayer mode,

03:43:50.140 --> 03:43:59.260
more than 2 on 2 and 4 on 4. But the reason it faced out is because people are looking for

03:43:59.260 --> 03:44:05.020
ever more extreme versions of something in order to feel something. It's like you want

03:44:05.020 --> 03:44:10.300
lack of personal accountability, 4-on-4 is better than 3-on-3. You want to go

03:44:10.300 --> 03:44:14.540
big, you like it big. 4-on-4 is bigger than 3-on-3, right? But something is

03:44:14.540 --> 03:44:18.500
lost when you make the most bigger. Here's bigger skill expression 1-on-1

03:44:18.500 --> 03:44:22.340
that 4-on-4. That's the biggest skill expression you can find. So you've got

03:44:22.340 --> 03:44:26.940
these two extremes. 2-on-2 it's still easy to find one body to play with. 3-on-3

03:44:26.940 --> 03:44:31.540
was like perfectly in the middle of impractical to get together and also not

03:44:31.540 --> 03:44:36.620
the most extreme version of either competition or zaniness and that's why I think it ended

03:44:36.620 --> 03:44:39.940
up disappearing. But it's actually a really good mode and the only way to bring it back

03:44:39.940 --> 03:44:45.460
is if we hold an invitational that has 3v3 because ladder is dead for 3v3. In fact, it

03:44:45.460 --> 03:44:50.180
was removed from Dubchance because nobody was doing it. Regarding the countdown, some

03:44:50.180 --> 03:44:53.580
science, if you press B to open the build menu, that counts as an action. It doesn't

03:44:53.580 --> 03:44:56.820
open the menu during countdown. It's queued up. But if you click it, it's not an action

03:44:56.820 --> 03:45:00.900
apparently. It's just a UI change. So you can queue up a building if you click but

03:45:00.900 --> 03:45:05.300
not failed case weird. So it's kind of broken right now actually

03:45:05.300 --> 03:45:07.940
also on that by an expanse only after a few ticks of the game

03:45:07.940 --> 03:45:10.380
so you can't queue billing at the far edge of your base until

03:45:10.580 --> 03:45:14.380
that's funny. That's weird idiosyncrasies doing in

03:45:19.780 --> 03:45:23.460
someone asked would bottom third go hard. And someone else

03:45:23.460 --> 03:45:27.120
answered a first time chat but a very good first time chat in

03:45:27.120 --> 03:45:30.140
In fact, one of the best ever first-time chats.

03:45:32.100 --> 03:45:34.360
Two-thirds of his army was bears, correct?

03:45:34.360 --> 03:45:36.980
And Dryads don't do that much damage.

03:45:36.980 --> 03:45:38.740
That's half-true.

03:45:38.740 --> 03:45:42.200
More correct would be they do decent damage

03:45:42.200 --> 03:45:44.400
and a component of it is poison-based,

03:45:44.400 --> 03:45:47.560
unaffected by upgrades and true shots.

03:45:47.560 --> 03:45:49.240
True shots are as bad for Night Elf,

03:45:49.240 --> 03:45:50.700
like Vampiric is bad for Undead.

03:45:50.700 --> 03:45:53.860
Again, half-true, true shot can be good for Night Elf,

03:45:53.860 --> 03:46:01.860
But it's never great. It's just okay because the true way to get value out of true shots is Kamiura.

03:46:01.860 --> 03:46:09.860
Those are hard to get in 101. And then the easily accessible ways are Chur, Mass Huntress, and both of those are not that good in 101.

03:46:09.860 --> 03:46:17.860
Dryads are the most common user of true shots and because of the poison they don't do as much.

03:46:17.860 --> 03:46:24.980
But if I would have gone for a third hero, very likely it would have been Potom after

03:46:24.980 --> 03:46:25.980
all.

03:46:25.980 --> 03:46:31.300
So I can get true shots for a small bit of extra damage and also put an orb of venom

03:46:31.300 --> 03:46:35.380
in there and then get scout owl.

03:46:35.380 --> 03:46:40.180
Why didn't you do the map with all the isles and portals for 4 on 4?

03:46:40.180 --> 03:46:42.980
I don't know if you're serious or not.

03:46:42.980 --> 03:46:44.820
You're taking 8 streamers.

03:46:44.820 --> 03:46:52.860
You make them sweat for one-on-one, four days before the tournament.

03:46:52.860 --> 03:46:57.740
You jump the news on them that in fact they're going to play 4-on-4, give them almost no

03:46:57.740 --> 03:47:04.140
time to practice it, and then you're like, and by the way, it's on a map that has teleporters,

03:47:04.140 --> 03:47:09.580
boats and spaceships.

03:47:09.580 --> 03:47:13.900
I like springing surprises on the streamers, but it's got to be well-natured, not to set

03:47:13.900 --> 03:47:27.500
them up for failure. And by the way, it's StarCraft. Hey, Grubby, wasn't you about to

03:47:27.500 --> 03:47:32.420
get one more chance because he lost only once? It's a great question. It wasn't really

03:47:32.420 --> 03:47:36.180
answered. You see, there's many different systems that you can have in double elimination.

03:47:36.180 --> 03:47:39.660
You've got the pure system that has the following pros and cons. And then of course, there's

03:47:39.660 --> 03:47:43.900
also these and that's a 75% win chance and then also there's the fully accept

03:47:43.900 --> 03:47:47.700
the finals format with a 1-0 score then there's also the whole tournament best

03:47:47.700 --> 03:47:51.300
of three double elimination and the best of five pure finals it's easy to

03:47:51.300 --> 03:47:55.300
understand but as you can see there's many different possible interests that

03:47:55.300 --> 03:47:58.260
are competing together for the best possible outcome and as such I decided

03:47:58.260 --> 03:48:01.820
to settle on the system and it was the best. We need to grab your talks on this.

03:48:01.820 --> 03:48:08.940
I'm glad you asked. Am I misremembering something or Stave's didn't share

03:48:08.940 --> 03:48:14.700
cool down and you used to juggle them between heroes in the past. Yep, you're remembering correctly.

03:48:15.420 --> 03:48:19.340
You used to be able to juggle staff of preservation between three different heroes,

03:48:19.340 --> 03:48:22.460
but I think that got changed not recently.

03:48:28.780 --> 03:48:31.900
I heard Yamato Canon was on his fifth energy drink, by the way.

03:48:31.900 --> 03:48:40.700
Hey, Gaby, was the whole headliner video thing a bug that got caught on as fun or was it

03:48:40.700 --> 03:48:41.700
delivered?

03:48:41.700 --> 03:48:45.300
It's not a bug, it's just the way that the video player works.

03:48:45.300 --> 03:48:55.100
When you start a video, it just keeps playing over and over.

03:48:55.100 --> 03:49:06.100
It looped because I didn't turn off looping, it jails.

03:49:06.100 --> 03:49:11.580
You know Twitch chat is just funny, they run with those, like everyone recognizes it as

03:49:11.580 --> 03:49:17.020
a mistake in the production, but then they run with it to poke fun at it, but eventually

03:49:17.020 --> 03:49:23.380
it becomes like a badge of honor and it just becomes really funny.

03:49:23.380 --> 03:49:28.500
How is he winning with only 3 out of 5 Wisps in gold?

03:49:28.500 --> 03:49:34.300
Why would you pick Lily Clems against literally no CC at all on the enemy team?

03:49:34.300 --> 03:49:41.340
The headline, huh?

03:49:41.340 --> 03:49:48.980
I think like 7 people got the Lily reference.

03:49:48.980 --> 03:49:52.940
Hera brought it all together, all the improvements culminated in the finals, beautiful.

03:49:52.940 --> 03:49:56.660
your coaching paid off for each of them. Congrats to you too, Gravi. Coaching so

03:49:56.660 --> 03:50:00.060
damn hard. Thank you, Slippin' Puck.

03:50:00.420 --> 03:50:09.100
What do you mean, Lulu? No, Lily. Okay, why would you go for quicksilver in League

03:50:09.100 --> 03:50:16.060
when the enemy has literally zero CC? All they have is...

03:50:16.060 --> 03:50:25.440
I forgot all the names holy shit who's that orc on top lane

03:50:25.440 --> 03:50:31.760
Sion yes well you answered before I asked the question all they have is Sion

03:50:31.760 --> 03:50:45.540
Sion has CC, bro.

03:50:45.540 --> 03:50:47.340
That's the fucking joke, man!

03:50:47.340 --> 03:50:48.340
You get it!

03:50:48.340 --> 03:50:49.340
That means you get it!

03:50:49.340 --> 03:50:51.940
Don't bro me!

03:50:51.940 --> 03:50:52.940
Don't bro me!

03:50:52.940 --> 03:50:57.620
Why would you go Quicksilver against an enemy team with literally no CC?

03:50:57.620 --> 03:51:05.980
of Sion? That's the joke! It's a meme!

03:51:05.980 --> 03:51:15.380
Sion has a knockup, it's not counted by quicks... OK, nerd! Ugh! Hate nerds here! Actually,

03:51:15.380 --> 03:51:18.380
I mean, no cop doesn't get counted by Quicksilver.

03:51:18.380 --> 03:51:19.380
Loser nerd.

03:51:19.380 --> 03:51:21.380
Ha ha ha ha ha.

03:51:21.380 --> 03:51:22.380
Nerd.

03:51:22.380 --> 03:51:25.380
Ha ha ha ha.

03:51:27.380 --> 03:51:31.380
Yeah, let's give that guy a wedgie, boys.

03:51:31.380 --> 03:51:34.380
shove him in a locker.

03:51:34.380 --> 03:51:36.380
Let's trip him.

03:51:36.380 --> 03:51:42.380
I bet this guy would buy QSS for Sion.

03:51:42.380 --> 03:51:46.380
I'll never understand what CC means. I know crowd control. Okay.

03:51:46.380 --> 03:51:51.380
Crowd control in the real world is when you bring riot police

03:51:51.380 --> 03:51:56.380
to control the crowd and to basically stun them to go back home

03:51:56.380 --> 03:52:00.380
when you taste the crowd with tasers.

03:52:00.380 --> 03:52:02.380
All right?

03:52:04.380 --> 03:52:06.380
Isn't that where it comes from?

03:52:12.380 --> 03:52:32.700
disabling the crowd to control them. IRL crowd control CC. So any form of stun, slow.

03:52:32.700 --> 03:52:38.540
You don't have to taste and bro please never be a police officer. But then how do I control

03:52:38.540 --> 03:52:45.660
population while I steal the wealth and funnel it to the rich. I need to taste.

03:52:51.100 --> 03:52:55.340
Hey Grobby, I got inspired by the tournament and got into work-out through myself and I managed

03:52:55.340 --> 03:52:59.980
to squeeze out my only two wins so far. I went single base MK Naga rifle push. Is this something

03:52:59.980 --> 03:53:05.660
that could be an actual thing if I work on it? Actual for you, yes. For you it's decent.

03:53:05.660 --> 03:53:12.240
And to be clear, it is horrible, but for you it can be decent.

03:53:12.240 --> 03:53:17.980
And while it keeps working, you should keep trying it.

03:53:17.980 --> 03:53:19.540
In fact, I've seen it before.

03:53:19.540 --> 03:53:21.740
Other people have fallen to the siren call of Mt.

03:53:21.740 --> 03:53:22.740
King Naga.

03:53:22.740 --> 03:53:25.220
It's a lot of single target hero focus.

03:53:25.220 --> 03:53:26.740
It can work.

03:53:26.740 --> 03:53:28.620
Yeah, exactly.

03:53:28.620 --> 03:53:29.980
What Prince Denzo is saying.

03:53:29.980 --> 03:53:32.900
Pro builds don't really work until Hi-Elo.

03:53:32.900 --> 03:53:35.420
I mean, they don't need to work, let's say.

03:53:35.420 --> 03:53:43.420
You could like be 600MMR with AMMK and then you start going Pit Lord solo as human and go to 700MMR.

03:53:44.420 --> 03:53:47.420
It's terrible, but it can be decent for you.

03:53:48.420 --> 03:53:52.420
Do I mount it again now? No, it's terrible. For me, it's bad.

03:53:54.420 --> 03:53:57.420
How cool, I'm 600MMR, I suppose any and all can work? Yes.

03:53:57.420 --> 03:54:04.420
And in fact, I think you should enjoy being at that elo because anything can work.

03:54:35.420 --> 03:55:00.700
I didn't think things started montyking, but his second hero is Bloodmage, not Naga.

03:55:00.700 --> 03:55:03.980
How long is the queue time in this game usually?

03:55:03.980 --> 03:55:04.980
At high elo?

03:55:04.980 --> 03:55:07.380
And I'm extremely high elo.

03:55:07.380 --> 03:55:08.820
It could take a while.

03:55:08.820 --> 03:55:11.860
I usually quit the game when it hits 5 minutes.

03:55:11.860 --> 03:55:15.580
Now I go play something else.

03:55:15.580 --> 03:55:16.580
High elo?

03:55:16.580 --> 03:55:17.580
High elo is 2800.

03:55:17.580 --> 03:55:18.580
Man.

03:55:18.580 --> 03:55:22.940
When are you planning to start the AOE 2 grind?

03:55:22.940 --> 03:55:25.460
If I hit 5 minutes I'm going to play right now.

03:55:25.460 --> 03:55:28.340
I'm in 45 seconds, I'll play AW2.

03:55:33.380 --> 03:55:34.900
Have you ever seriously considered

03:55:34.900 --> 03:55:37.700
hosting a similar Bruteware Invitational tournament?

03:55:40.780 --> 03:55:42.980
I have considered it, yeah.

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And some other games.

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I think Bruteware is very fun,

03:55:46.460 --> 03:55:49.420
and I think it would be hilarious to invite

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streamers to come and play it.

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But the only problem is,

03:55:52.620 --> 03:55:54.500
I wouldn't be able to coach anyone.

03:55:55.460 --> 03:56:08.100
Is Hera really putting an aoe2 tournament?

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Yeah.

03:56:16.780 --> 03:56:21.460
I'm sure ectosis will take up the burden for you, he's a nice guy.

03:56:21.460 --> 03:56:37.420
the brown brew crew dictates I just started learning every two hotkeys are overwhelming

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Yeah.

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Alright, let's go.

03:57:27.300 --> 03:57:33.860
Let's get back into Avery 2.

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Mega cheater.

03:57:35.100 --> 03:57:42.060
for the 10 euros but shame on you, shame on you for cheating unless it's in the single player game

03:57:42.060 --> 03:57:56.460
then it's fine. You need to sign up for a Warcraft 3 tournament so you have enough because of this

03:57:56.460 --> 03:58:05.260
this a we turn. Herra did a Warcraft 3 and a we two tournament while also training for

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competitive eating contest. No wonder he was so stressed. I saw him. Where's the music?

03:58:15.220 --> 03:58:18.220
Where's the music? Where's the sound?

03:58:18.220 --> 03:58:21.220
Eh? Eh?

03:58:23.220 --> 03:58:26.220
Why have no sound?

03:58:37.220 --> 03:58:40.220
Oh, I know why.

03:58:40.220 --> 03:58:42.220
It's bugged.

03:58:42.220 --> 03:58:49.220
My stream deck is bugged with Age of Empires 2. It can only turn it on and off via my volume mixer, not my stream deck.

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It's muted, but it showed up as not muted.

03:58:52.220 --> 03:58:54.220
There we go.

03:58:54.220 --> 03:58:57.220
There we go.

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Are we going to watch Harris tournaments in AoE 2 on stream?

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Maybe.

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I watched his finals in red bull those fun

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be aware there's a hack running these days in a way to we're building castle

03:59:28.520 --> 03:59:33.340
foundations are seen by the enemy before their place and they can kill it oh my

03:59:33.340 --> 03:59:38.840
god I just read that already I didn't read the answer but it was something like

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Like, how did he... yeah, I saw this today.

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A player deleted...

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What the fuck is this?

03:59:49.640 --> 03:59:55.160
A player deleted my unbuilt Donjon in Feudal Age while my builders were on their way to

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build in Howx.

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Oh my god.

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Vtuber culture.

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re-culture.

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There's some music.

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You can turn off again.

04:00:35.520 --> 04:00:39.520
This music is periodic. Yeah.

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Ever thought about playing some rage forest games? Are you just interested in 101?

04:00:43.520 --> 04:00:47.520
Just interested in 101.

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Let's see if I remember anything.

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Oh my god. It's been a while.

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That's on the sauce.

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Oh,

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this stand.

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Alright boys, here we go, back to the AoE 2 grind.

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Such a good game and now with an extra reason to practice it

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Because it's gonna be an age of empires to invitational

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With my name in it

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Our maps in a way to randomly generator pre-made it like they're randomly generated

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They're randomly generated.

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This game has no control left click guys.

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From an engine perspective it's very limited compared to Warcraft 3 which is perfect.

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look you can barely click the trees it's crazy

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limited for you

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bang bang bami yo thanks for this up erath 4290 appreciate it

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3 on wood.

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What does control left click do in worker 3?

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It selects all units of the same type.

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Here you have to double click.

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Which requires accuracy.

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Control left click does not require accuracy.

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no hundred votes

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do i use any mods in a way too? ah yes

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i do

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how much for a game fully zoomed in? no thank you

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I don't even know where my opponent is yet.

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I'm glad that I remember a bunch of things still.

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Hey, hello, go out.

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Thank you, thank you.

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Uh, it might be possible to change that at Hotski's settings?

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It's not.

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Terrible start, restart, retarded, he never said that, he never said that, he was, he

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was friendly.

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You did say retarded once, okay, but not to death now surely.

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More like as a concept.

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No?

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I mean not too Yamato, I mean.

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You're talking about Nidalefl poems? Okay, that makes sense. That's fair.

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I remember the hotkeys, which is pretty encouraging I must say.

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Thank you for the sub, appreciate it.

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Guys I remember hotkeys, it's amazing.

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My build still works, I found my opponent.

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The eco-split looks good.

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I didn't circle around my opponents, which is a shame I suppose.

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Dude, I feel like the opener I did here is better than I ever done.

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Best opener ever.

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It's a headliner opener.

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So this game is full macro simulator?

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Yeah, sure.

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100%.

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100%

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shit massive mistakes in my build horrible eco balance

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Oh no, I lost one of my men in arms to the time-sender.

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How sad. No, no, no, no!

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You tenor roll, but the enemy horrible!

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Ow.

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But overall this went pretty well, no?

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I think this went pretty well.

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We got everything we want.

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There's some compliments to be found, I think.

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Oh, no, why did the villager go here?

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Finally, AOE 2 content for you, hey, what's up?

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Why is this guy long-distancing his berries? This is AI. This is my warming up comeback game.

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Oh yeah. This is AI.

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Just kind of getting the hang of things again, seeing if I still remember my hotkeys.

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looks like I do wasn't that long ago after all

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I will he coach me to yeah, but I think he's invited more than eight people so

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The coaching time is going to be so diluted. I

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Hope I'll be his special little baby

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Never know I

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Don't understand this game really huh the headliner. Thank you Dean

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I have enough farms, I just don't have enough food to take out.

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Six hours every day with her.

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Okay, so I'm done warming up, I'm fine now.

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Someone said I don't really understand this game, so I'll do my best to explain.

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explain. I know that there's gonna be some Warcraft fans that don't know or don't care

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or don't appreciate or don't understand the game yet, so I'll do what I can to explain

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it and make it enjoyable since we'll be training this for several weeks leading into the tournament.

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It's an RTS, a pure RTS without the RPG hybrid component. Warcraft 3 of course has a hero

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component and this game pretty much doesn't have heroes. There's only one or two units

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that gains strength. You can call it veterancy. It's like leveling up and they're the Tiger Cavalry

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of the way. But overall you should think of it as something that's not a concept here. The Tiger

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Cavalry gains 10 health and 1 attack, damage for every unit it kills. This is kind of a hero.

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This is kind of a hero too. Create Kau Kau. Way unique Cavalry hero unit that provides bonus attack

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speed, essentially endurance aura in a circle of tentile radius around himself,

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extremely powerful, costs 500-500, comes out of tier 4, you can only have one and

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it cannot be possessed by banshees. Right? So Wei, which is a Chinese variant, they

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have some hero type of units, but overall it's not a thing. Alright, so Age of

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Vampires 2 has four ages, age 1, 2, 3, and 4.

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Teaching up or tiering up, they call it aging up here.

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Time to age up or click up, they say click up often.

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It's dark ages, feudal age, castle age, and imperial age.

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In dark age, you can only make Melissa, which are just like Warcraft Melissa, in that they're

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better than villagers, but they're not that good.

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slow-moving military unit that can even be owned by workers. They use a rock

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paper sister system here. You've got the whole militia line, militia upgrades to

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become footmen, then they become long swordsmen and then two-handed swordsmen.

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That's kind of like getting one, one, two, three, three upgrades, but even better

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than that than in Warcraft 3. So think of the difference between an

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unupgraded grant and then think of something like a 10-10 upgraded grant.

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that's his lifetime evolution. That's how different it is actually much more

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different than just the zero zero grounds becoming a 3-3. It's even more

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different than a headhunter becoming a berserker, even more than that. Or imagine

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that the headhunter becomes a berserker than a gigaberserker and an ultra

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berserker. That's maybe a bit more of a real progression that you can expect.

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right. Minute arms counter spearman spearman counter horses, horses counter archers and

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skirmishers and archer and skirmishers counter minute arms and spears. That's kind of the

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rock paper scissors. And then you've got mounted archers, they lose if you stand still to spears.

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They lose if you stand still to knights. They lose if you stand still to skirmishers. But

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They have so much mobility and range that they can beat everything as well with micro.

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Getting to our next age is very relevant.

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Unlike in Warcraft 3, you cannot do a Tier 1 fast expand.

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You can only fast expand in Tier 3, called Castle Age.

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That's the first time you're allowed to make another main base building.

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It's really weird.

04:16:45.680 --> 04:16:48.120
You can't Tier 1 fast expand, not even Tier 2.

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There's only one civilization that can do a tier 2 fast expand and it's called Cumans.

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It'll say so. Let's see what does it say.

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Second Town Center available in Furo Age and it can only fast expand once.

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This game has four resources. Food, wood, taste good.

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Food, lumber, gold and stone.

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Food is plentiful. You can make it from farms.

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There are different food gathering rates.

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You have berries, sheep, boars, farms, fish traps, fish boats.

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There's all kinds of different ways to get food.

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So, you start with several sheep next to you.

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HVMPR2 uses procedurally generated maps based on certain conditions.

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So it'll say like, you'll always have four sheep in the vicinity of your town center,

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and there's always going to be four more sheep nearby.

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And the eight sheep is the totality of what is accorded to you, but it could be anywhere

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in a circle around your base in the fog of war, all right?

04:18:07.560 --> 04:18:10.800
Then there's also always two boars.

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Guys, don't worry about the exceptions to my rules right now, it's better to explain it like this.

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There's always two boars. Now a sheep will have 100 food on himself, and once you kill him, he will start decaying in his corpse.

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So right now he's 100, 99, 98, 97, so it's rotting.

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So it's better to kill one then go to the next, then to the next, etc.

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And then there's going to be like optimum amounts of villagers you want to have per sheep for that to be efficient.

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Just like moving between Creek camps in Warcraft 3 has travel time or walking to the Warmill,

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of course it has travel time if I kill a sheep and then I kill the next sheep over here.

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That's going to be worse than if I put this sheep on top of that sheep right there

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so that when they're done harvesting the first sheep, they're going to kill the second one right away.

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And I should also point out that this is a pig

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Not a sheep, but they like to have different critters doing the same thing in this game for variety visually

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right, so the pig

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the pig has a

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100 food on it that will be added to your bank when you harvest it the boar is

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340 food, but he fights back

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You can pull him with a villager with one attack or you can pull him with a horse with two attacks

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but if you lose his vision of you and it's similar to your own scout then he

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will stop chasing. Every civ starts with one scout and this is also actually a

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fighting unit. Think of it as a very early version of a night in Warcraft 3.

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So you bring the boar back then you kill it with your town center and then you

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start harvesting from it. Now if you look at the amount of rate that I

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I diminished the food on the board, as you can see over here, it's actually much higher

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than the amount of food I get from a sheep. The food gathering rate from a board is better,

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you can also carry more boar meat than sheep meat simultaneously, so it involves fewer trips back.

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You want to bring everything under your town center so that you have the least walking distance.

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In like the 300mm noop range, people do shit like this.

04:20:24.460 --> 04:20:30.820
they're gonna they're gonna go all the way over here wait what the fuck is this

04:20:30.820 --> 04:20:34.180
actually okay I have no idea what just happened that never happened to me before

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I think it's consistent food in their hands so they herded it back to town

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center apparently what the fuck is this new it's just like a new noob mechanic

04:20:46.060 --> 04:20:50.580
that they added it auto hurts when it's too far away okay I wanted to show like

04:20:50.580 --> 04:20:58.420
a nuke move and instead I learned something. It's a 1999 change. Okay, okay I didn't know

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that. So all kinds of different food. There's also chickens. There's lots of chickens that

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give extra food. I think their harvesting rate is the same as sheep but you cannot herd

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them back to base so you have to build a mill there or walk really really far. Okay, what

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is the goal of the game in HMAP IH2? It's of course to eliminate your opponent. You

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You both start with three villagers, again there's exceptions, you start with three villagers

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and the idea for a game like this is that you make non-stop villagers.

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So unlike worker 3 where after 13 workers you're done forever here, you go all the way

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to 180 villagers.

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Your maximum supply is 200, there's no upkeep, so it is actually good if you just keep making

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shit all the time.

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There's no reason to stop.

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The average amount of villagers at high level that you should have is between 120 and 150.

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But noobs will say that 100 is enough, or that you should stop at 120 all the time,

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but that's not true.

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180 is actually getting used in the highest elo tournament sometimes.

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I make 180, it's mistake, Hera makes it, it's genius.

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It's unfair.

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We're being measured by a different yardstick.

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Super unfair.

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right?

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Uh, isn't popcap 200? Yes. What do you need food for? All right. So there's four resources.

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Roxy says, Krabby, if you reach 2k MMR, I'm going to be the one dragging, uh,

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Marine Lords ass into the event to give you a challenge. Hell no. Adding, adding new MMR,

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like 2k MMR new players in last minute is unfair. It's super unfair. I think everyone

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someone else should be completely new to the game, Roxy. I'm really old so I need a lot

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of extra help. Do you give me a challenge? Nah. I've seen the list of participants that

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are in the tournament already. It's going to be plenty hard. Don't you worry. We don't

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need to start bringing in semi-pros. Hera OZ1? Yes! Yes! I didn't even invite any other

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RTS players. To give Hera some freebies, he needed confidence boost because he's had

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had such a hard time recently in A&E too.

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So four resources. I'll describe every resource. Food is generally what is used for your villagers,

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so it scales your economy. It also produces a plethora of different units in your control.

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Wood is used to build buildings and also units. Food and wood are also very heavily used for

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upgrades, including economy upgrades as well as unit effectiveness upgrades for military.

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Gold is a very precious and desirable resource. It gives you high quality units. Generally,

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units that are made only of wood and food are considered trash units. Not that they are so

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bad that you shouldn't use them, but they're trash in the sense that if you lose them,

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at least you didn't lose a gold unit. Losing gold units in this game is like losing heroes

04:24:08.320 --> 04:24:12.680
in Warcraft 3. Not really, but it's a bit more like that. Like they matter more. You

04:24:12.680 --> 04:24:17.240
would rather sacrifice a whole bunch of food and wood because wooden food is in relatively

04:24:17.240 --> 04:24:24.400
large supply. Usually you'll make one gold unit and one trash unit that's only based

04:24:24.400 --> 04:24:30.520
in food and wood. There are of course exceptions but if you try to make two to three different

04:24:30.520 --> 04:24:35.800
units that all have a gold cast you're gonna run out and you're gonna overly invest in

04:24:35.800 --> 04:24:41.560
many different unit types and it's not efficient. So one gold, one trash, you'll see that a

04:24:41.560 --> 04:24:48.280
lot in Age of Empires too. Gold can be gained by harvesting from the gold mine. There's

04:24:48.280 --> 04:24:53.640
always one large gold next to your town center and then another gold nearby. Sometimes it's

04:24:53.640 --> 04:24:59.680
very freaking unfair. For instance, my gold is called a forward gold, which means it's

04:24:59.680 --> 04:25:04.680
oriented towards the opponent. It's easier for him to tower here, here or here, or bring

04:25:04.680 --> 04:25:09.480
archers or a ram bust and start trying to take down my gold. If my gold would have been

04:25:09.480 --> 04:25:14.080
in the back, it would be much safer. I do have a safe gold in the back that I can pivot

04:25:14.080 --> 04:25:20.120
towards if my front gold gets denied. But the third gold is also forward-ish. Then you

04:25:20.120 --> 04:25:24.160
look at his base his gold is to the back his big gold the mirth that's

04:25:24.160 --> 04:25:28.760
advantageous for him generally he also has a safe stone so positional luck is a

04:25:28.760 --> 04:25:32.240
real thing and that's why aoe2 tournaments usually have best of seven

04:25:32.240 --> 04:25:37.700
best of nine so that it's the luck is evened out over more games a best of one

04:25:37.700 --> 04:25:43.760
aoe2 on Arabia which is this map would be really really unfair

04:25:43.760 --> 04:25:49.560
It's Gold Infinite or Finite.

04:25:49.560 --> 04:25:51.400
Gold is finite.

04:25:51.400 --> 04:25:57.320
It's a really big balancing part of forcing games to a headliner.

04:25:57.320 --> 04:26:01.520
Once gold runs out, there's like a couple of ways to still gain gold.

04:26:01.520 --> 04:26:07.840
There's a marketplace where you can sell food, wood and stone to get gold, but the rate is

04:26:07.840 --> 04:26:12.840
never going to be advantageous.

04:26:12.840 --> 04:26:15.680
You can find relics on the map, these things.

04:26:15.680 --> 04:26:18.240
They're like items in Warcraft 3.

04:26:18.240 --> 04:26:20.080
They're a zero-sum game.

04:26:20.080 --> 04:26:25.360
Most maps have about five, but sometimes there's more, and they generate gold per second.

04:26:25.360 --> 04:26:31.800
One relic, if you bring it back and put it in a church, will give you two villagers worth

04:26:31.800 --> 04:26:34.560
of mining on gold, essentially.

04:26:34.560 --> 04:26:40.400
So if I manage to get all five relics and stuff them in churches in Monastery, then it's

04:26:40.400 --> 04:26:44.600
It's like having 10 villagers on gold, which is good, but not enough to sustain a full

04:26:44.600 --> 04:26:51.520
gold unit economy.

04:26:51.520 --> 04:26:56.200
You cannot win this game in Dark Ages, extreme exceptions.

04:26:56.200 --> 04:27:00.400
So like double barracks, footman all-in, double crypt, ghoul all-in is very difficult.

04:27:00.400 --> 04:27:05.080
And the reason is the town center has a very powerful counterattack.

04:27:05.080 --> 04:27:12.640
There are exceptions such as the Persian Dark Age Rush, but it is really just one sieve

04:27:12.640 --> 04:27:22.520
out of 50 with one cheese and usually it doesn't end in dark, maybe at low level it does.

04:27:22.520 --> 04:27:28.240
The Persian Dush.

04:27:28.240 --> 04:27:34.040
So in a game of AoE 2 you try to basically have non-stop villager production, scale up

04:27:34.040 --> 04:27:38.440
your economy and then with any bonus money you have you make buildings expand

04:27:38.440 --> 04:27:43.440
your economy more make military buildings and military units making units

04:27:43.440 --> 04:27:47.400
and attacking with them and killing enemy military units is one way to win

04:27:47.400 --> 04:27:51.280
but you can also try to sidestep the enemy military units and kill a few

04:27:51.280 --> 04:27:56.560
villagers every villagers expected to harvest like 50 resources per minute so

04:27:56.560 --> 04:28:00.560
if I go to 30 villagers and he goes to 30 and I come in and I kill five

04:28:00.560 --> 04:28:05.400
villagers with my army but I lose all my army that's really really good because I

04:28:05.400 --> 04:28:11.920
sit in back minutes on this economy scale this game also has walls so you

04:28:11.920 --> 04:28:16.800
can start walling all the way around your base like so those walls have a

04:28:16.800 --> 04:28:22.880
blueprint on my screen but they're not real yet until I get there and I do one

04:28:22.880 --> 04:28:27.440
hammer strike on it once I do one hammer strike on it it starts forming I

04:28:27.440 --> 04:28:32.640
I see a one HP wall, the enemy does not see it, it doesn't exist yet.

04:28:32.640 --> 04:28:39.000
So walling off is a good way to prevent yourself from getting harassed against, and it's a

04:28:39.000 --> 04:28:43.880
very common tactic that people do.

04:28:43.880 --> 04:28:47.720
When you get to the second H, you can make more than just militia, you can also make

04:28:47.720 --> 04:28:54.000
archers, which are the best unit that you can get, then there's skirmishers, which

04:28:54.000 --> 04:28:59.120
have primarily an archer counter, there's scout cavalry, which is the unit that you

04:28:59.120 --> 04:29:03.320
also start with to scout, he gets an automatic upgrade when you get to tier 2,

04:29:03.320 --> 04:29:08.640
and scout counter archers and skirmishers, archers counter spearmen and

04:29:08.640 --> 04:29:13.720
men-at-arms, skirmishers counter archers and spearmen, but are very slow against

04:29:13.720 --> 04:29:18.200
men-at-arms, and it's kind of like the rock-paper-scissors there. Once you get to

04:29:18.200 --> 04:29:26.160
Castle Age. Hey, thank you so much Awakens. Once you get to Castle Age, that's where things

04:29:26.160 --> 04:29:31.960
get really exciting. It unlocks the camels, the knights. You get upgrades for your spearman

04:29:31.960 --> 04:29:37.200
at arms. You get upgrades for your archery. It becomes a crossbow. And in this game, every

04:29:37.200 --> 04:29:43.760
time you upgrade your archer line, they get more range as well. Lots more range. Which

04:29:43.760 --> 04:29:48.720
which is crazy. Imagine Rifleman in Warcraft 3 has 400 range and you get one upgrade and

04:29:48.720 --> 04:29:55.280
you go 600 and you're done. Here you start with a range of 4, you upgrade to Crossbow

04:29:55.280 --> 04:30:03.120
you get 5, you get a blacksmith upgrade called Fletching. Now you have 6 range, Botkin gives

04:30:03.120 --> 04:30:08.400
you 7 and then when you go to tier 4 Arbalest gives you 8 and then you get Bracess you have

04:30:08.400 --> 04:30:18.000
9 range. It's crazy. So it goes all the way from 4 to 9. Right? So Archers, crossbows

04:30:18.000 --> 04:30:24.720
are basically the best unit in the game, outside of unique units. Then there's 54 civilizations,

04:30:24.720 --> 04:30:32.040
so you need to learn a little bit. But we talked about this earlier today. In Warcraft

04:30:32.040 --> 04:30:37.920
3, your general gameplay skill knowledge and theory constitute 75 of your skill level,

04:30:37.920 --> 04:30:45.120
percent. And race specific scale is another 25 percent. So you can expect to lose 25 percent

04:30:45.120 --> 04:30:48.880
of your scale when you go to a race you've never played before and know nothing about

04:30:48.880 --> 04:30:55.840
in Warcraft 3. But in AoE 2, the civilizations are so symmetrical on average that I think

04:30:55.840 --> 04:31:01.920
the split is more like 928. So even if I've never played the Juergens before, I can probably

04:31:01.920 --> 04:31:07.360
play them pretty okay based on my experience with others. And it's by design. For instance,

04:31:07.360 --> 04:31:11.520
we're now looking at Ethiopian Tech Tree. I clicked the Jurgens, who I never played. Oh,

04:31:11.520 --> 04:31:15.440
guess what? Many things are the same. I still have the archer, I still have the crossbow,

04:31:15.440 --> 04:31:19.520
I still have the bike, I still have the spear, but this one, this sift doesn't get access to the

04:31:19.520 --> 04:31:24.720
upgraded militia on Castle Age, and you don't get the tier four archer. So there's a lot of

04:31:24.720 --> 04:31:30.080
interesting differences that create asymmetry, but the asymmetry is not nearly as big as in Warcraft 3.

04:31:30.080 --> 04:31:37.080
Okay, thank you for the self, Flambeary.

04:31:37.080 --> 04:31:42.080
54 SIVs.

04:31:42.080 --> 04:31:47.080
Okay, that's kind of A.W.2 in the nutshell.

04:31:47.080 --> 04:31:50.080
In a game of A.W.2, finally, you'll skill up your economy,

04:31:50.080 --> 04:31:52.080
you'll skill up your unit production,

04:31:52.080 --> 04:31:55.080
you'll skill up the amount of military buildings that you have,

04:31:55.080 --> 04:31:58.080
you'll make units non-stop, you'll counter your opponent's units,

04:31:58.080 --> 04:32:03.320
units, you get upgrades, you try to secure more areas on the map that have gold, you

04:32:03.320 --> 04:32:09.640
try to deny valuable resources to your opponent, their gold, their relics and so on, you spread

04:32:09.640 --> 04:32:14.200
over the map like a cancer, try to prevent him doing the same thing, and then eventually

04:32:14.200 --> 04:32:18.720
a master stroke, he'll do a stroke that finishes him off.

04:32:18.720 --> 04:32:25.120
That's kind of the game, I have a couple of months of experience in the game, and I guess

04:32:25.120 --> 04:32:32.920
we can jump into multiplayer. Hey Grubby, do you know if there's a prize pool for

04:32:32.920 --> 04:32:39.800
day with your tournament? Hi, Sir Rise King. Yes, I think there is. Grubby, could you please

04:32:39.800 --> 04:32:46.360
try default health bars? Don't I already have default health bars? Sounds like my wife would

04:32:46.360 --> 04:32:54.320
really get a beating me at this game. I'm a lucky guy. Good for you. I have standard

04:32:54.320 --> 04:33:22.140
health bars. Right. See, I have standard legacy. Thank you for the gift stop anonymous

04:33:22.140 --> 04:33:29.700
gift here. Probably would you be cooked on a water map? I'm gonna try to find out

04:33:29.700 --> 04:33:32.980
if there's water maps in the tournament and if there is I'm gonna start

04:33:32.980 --> 04:33:38.780
practicing it and if I don't know I'm not gonna. I feel like that's kind of an

04:33:38.780 --> 04:33:42.860
important need to know. Didn't you mention changing hotkeys? Yeah but I'm not

04:33:42.860 --> 04:33:58.500
to do it tonight. Hotkey change is going to be off stream for sure. Disable always on,

04:33:58.500 --> 04:34:05.500
Why would I want to do that? I like... I like always on. Where's that anyway?

04:34:21.900 --> 04:34:26.900
I like always on. Eeeeeewwww!

04:34:28.500 --> 04:34:36.900
This is like Warcraft 3.

04:34:36.900 --> 04:34:49.540
In gamehut is a bit too large, you can't make it smaller can you?

04:34:49.540 --> 04:34:52.420
How long does the usual Age of Empires 2 game last?

04:34:52.420 --> 04:35:00.180
8 of a purse 2 has a game speed that you can see up here, but do you see this number 1.7?

04:35:00.180 --> 04:35:03.420
That is the offset multiplier of what is reality.

04:35:03.420 --> 04:35:07.940
So this looks like a minute, but in fact you have to divide it by 1.7 to know the real

04:35:07.940 --> 04:35:09.660
passage of time.

04:35:09.660 --> 04:35:13.220
So it's closer to double than it is to original time.

04:35:13.220 --> 04:35:18.980
So I have many games that say 38 minutes, but in reality though I've been like what 22?

04:35:18.980 --> 04:35:37.220
The game time is as fake as the day-night dial in Worker 3.

04:35:37.220 --> 04:35:39.740
Always honest, terrible, costumane units in AoE.

04:35:39.740 --> 04:35:43.860
No, I like it.

04:35:43.860 --> 04:35:46.380
I like it.

04:35:46.380 --> 04:35:59.060
oh new maps how many maps can our veto only three ill no water no water no

04:35:59.060 --> 04:36:06.820
water guess we're playing arena on this map you can in this game chat for my

04:36:06.820 --> 04:36:12.140
Warcraft 3 fans you can change your sieve after you find the map

04:36:12.140 --> 04:36:17.700
Wait, why did they do the 1.7 thing that seems silly?

04:36:17.700 --> 04:36:19.900
That's just how it is.

04:36:19.900 --> 04:36:23.540
Because they designed the game for a slower speed.

04:36:23.540 --> 04:36:26.300
What the fuck?

04:36:26.300 --> 04:36:32.460
Hunt the roaming foxes for a significant gold boost and chop through the central forest

04:36:32.460 --> 04:36:34.140
and take control of the secrets within.

04:36:34.140 --> 04:36:35.140
Oh god.

04:36:35.140 --> 04:36:40.140
Do I ult a 4?

04:36:40.140 --> 04:36:50.300
Team 90 official.

04:36:50.300 --> 04:36:52.980
I've never played this map.

04:36:52.980 --> 04:36:57.340
I should pull a soda poppin'.

04:36:57.340 --> 04:37:02.820
It's okay.

04:37:02.820 --> 04:37:06.300
We're gonna lose some games anyway because I haven't played in a few months.

04:37:06.300 --> 04:37:08.540
I'm against 1800 Edo guy.

04:37:08.540 --> 04:37:09.540
It's aliens.

04:37:09.540 --> 04:37:26.820
know the safe. You guys, my MMR in this game is top 4% world. So I'm gonna get

04:37:26.820 --> 04:37:30.320
cooped because I haven't played for a little bit. And I'm playing on a new map

04:37:30.320 --> 04:37:35.620
in the pool. They change maps every two weeks in this game. And I had no warming

04:37:35.620 --> 04:37:42.300
up here the fuck is this a trade workshop I have no idea what that is I guess you try

04:37:42.300 --> 04:37:59.780
to occupy it and you get money per minute all these foxes if I kill them with villagers

04:37:59.780 --> 04:38:06.780
i'm gonna get gold

04:38:09.160 --> 04:38:15.160
i'm right about that at least

04:38:15.160 --> 04:38:20.040
looks like the lumber is so scarce in this map man

04:38:20.040 --> 04:38:27.280
am i supposed to take one of these small ones?

04:38:27.280 --> 04:38:31.360
should have gone for the center

04:38:31.360 --> 04:38:33.680
yes i should have gone for the center

04:38:33.680 --> 04:38:40.680
that's kind of far away

04:38:43.360 --> 04:38:46.300
i'm already pretty behind chat because

04:38:46.300 --> 04:38:47.440
i didn't find

04:38:47.440 --> 04:38:48.960
some of my sheets

04:38:48.960 --> 04:38:50.560
there are geese in this map but

04:38:50.560 --> 04:38:52.080
it's the same idea

04:38:52.080 --> 04:38:55.080
and i had some idle time because i forgot to bring my geese back on time

04:38:57.280 --> 04:39:10.560
I just found the other geese, I haven't brought back any Bore yet, I'm not sure I've found

04:39:10.560 --> 04:39:16.200
the second Bore yet, did I find it?

04:39:16.200 --> 04:39:34.160
Is there even two boards on the- oh there it is.

04:39:34.160 --> 04:39:37.960
Lots of foxes here, lots of gold.

04:39:37.960 --> 04:39:45.280
Wow.

04:39:45.280 --> 04:39:50.280
I need to do a forced drop off command so that I can make another villager cause I fell short

04:39:52.280 --> 04:39:57.280
This map is called Volpine which is a pokemon, it's like a fox

04:39:57.280 --> 04:40:03.280
So they took that from a pokemon

04:40:03.280 --> 04:40:10.280
I guess.

04:40:10.960 --> 04:40:12.120
Uh,

04:40:12.120 --> 04:40:19.120
middle I guess.

04:40:33.280 --> 04:40:53.800
Okay, people are cutting trees in weird places.

04:40:53.800 --> 04:40:58.360
I found where he is, he's Italian so I'm trying to remember what Italians do.

04:40:58.360 --> 04:41:03.640
uh... i don't quite remember

04:41:03.640 --> 04:41:10.960
something about good crossbows

04:41:10.960 --> 04:41:13.240
you pass that game as

04:41:13.240 --> 04:41:17.040
our crappies he's going to manage rush me

04:41:17.040 --> 04:41:24.040
makes sense

04:42:17.040 --> 04:42:23.040
It looks like he's going to minister rush me. I think that's still true.

04:42:33.040 --> 04:42:35.040
It is still true.

04:43:17.040 --> 04:43:31.320
I'm just kidding all my rabbits why

04:43:31.320 --> 04:43:32.320
Why?

04:43:32.320 --> 04:43:38.320
How long have those been out for?

04:43:38.320 --> 04:44:04.500
how long has it been idle? how the shit? oh it's idle because he's stuck

04:44:04.500 --> 04:44:12.500
but it's a terrible position

04:44:12.500 --> 04:44:29.500
oh I forgot my upgrades

04:44:29.500 --> 04:44:56.220
oops

04:44:56.220 --> 04:45:25.900
Uh-huh, uh-huh. I don't want to play this map, but not without

04:45:25.900 --> 04:45:30.720
practice I need I should have looked first at all the maps that are in the

04:45:30.720 --> 04:45:40.080
pool yeah get prize money from blizzard give yourselves one after the other the

04:45:40.080 --> 04:45:44.080
price money impressive well played easy infinite money glitch I see yeah yeah

04:45:44.080 --> 04:45:50.200
yeah sure sure what's the score on the bottom right okay this game actually

04:45:50.200 --> 04:46:00.200
It essentially shows a summary of your scouting and military and economic value.

04:46:04.200 --> 04:46:12.200
So, the more you scout it, the more military and econ you have, the more the score goes up.

04:46:12.200 --> 04:46:22.200
So it is essentially like a status report map hack tool that you need to learn how to read like a compass.

04:46:22.200 --> 04:46:25.200
And actually our scores were similar so I still had a chance.

04:46:25.200 --> 04:46:29.200
Now to be honest, the Volpan is just a standard map, the gimmick with the middle doesn't matter.

04:46:29.200 --> 04:46:33.200
No, I understand, I understand, but like I don't know how to wall yet.

04:46:33.200 --> 04:46:43.080
Like, I need to, like I think I remember Enclosed and Arena and Arabia, they're fine but it

04:46:43.080 --> 04:46:48.200
gives me the new map immediately because of course it does and I just need to check it

04:46:48.200 --> 04:46:53.040
out first before I feel comfortable playing there, like I don't know, I have to just like

04:46:53.040 --> 04:47:00.800
take a look at it. Oops. Oh, fuck. Wait, what? Oh, no, I hit... I hit randomize.

04:47:05.840 --> 04:47:10.800
That's so funny to randomize a thing. What should I change? Is all this normal?

04:47:23.040 --> 04:47:27.420
Victory conquest.

04:47:27.420 --> 04:47:28.420
Gamespeed?

04:47:28.420 --> 04:47:29.420
Should be what?

04:47:29.420 --> 04:47:30.420
Fast?

04:47:30.420 --> 04:47:39.200
Okay, fast, conquest, map size tiny is okay, vulpine random map is okay.

04:47:39.200 --> 04:47:47.160
You can say that to fully explore it, no, no, no, gamespeed normal, oh, why did someone

04:47:47.160 --> 04:47:50.000
say fast?

04:47:50.000 --> 04:47:51.880
Allow cheats deactivated if you want normal play.

04:47:51.880 --> 04:47:55.160
No, no, no, I want with cheats.

04:47:55.160 --> 04:47:59.080
Oh, thank you, Spray Friar.

04:47:59.080 --> 04:48:01.640
This is before.

04:48:01.640 --> 04:48:02.140
OK.

04:48:14.520 --> 04:48:15.560
Yeah, all right.

04:48:15.560 --> 04:48:16.240
We've got everything.

04:48:16.240 --> 04:48:18.920
Oh, unlock speed.

04:48:18.920 --> 04:48:21.200
Nice.

04:48:21.200 --> 04:48:23.520
Why would someone make militia if you said villagers beat them?

04:48:23.520 --> 04:48:28.880
Alright, that's actually a really good question and I can answer.

04:48:28.880 --> 04:48:32.200
So basically it's about unit production buildings.

04:48:32.200 --> 04:48:38.920
You have a town hall that produces villagers, one villager per villager unit time.

04:48:38.920 --> 04:48:43.720
So let's say a villager takes 20 seconds to make, then every 20 seconds you make a

04:48:43.720 --> 04:48:44.720
villager.

04:48:44.720 --> 04:48:46.960
And for a long time that's all you can afford.

04:48:46.960 --> 04:48:52.800
Eventually you'll have so many villagers working that you could afford two villagers at the same time

04:48:53.240 --> 04:48:56.880
But you don't have a second town center, but you can make a barracks

04:48:57.160 --> 04:49:01.680
Now you can make one villager at all the time still without any interruption

04:49:01.680 --> 04:49:07.480
But you can also make one militia at a time from a barracks not all the time, but for some time

04:49:07.920 --> 04:49:11.000
So you make three militia out of that building the barracks

04:49:11.000 --> 04:49:17.500
and then you attack an opponent with it. Now you have 21 villagers at home and he has 21 villagers

04:49:17.500 --> 04:49:24.000
but you also have 3 militia and so you know obviously if you had a fight with the old man you would win

04:49:24.000 --> 04:49:29.500
because 24 is more than 21 but that's not how the game is going to go of course. You attack someone with 3 militia

04:49:29.500 --> 04:49:37.500
and if they had 6 villagers they would smack your ass. But if you killed even one villager while losing 3 militia

04:49:37.500 --> 04:49:41.500
You're economically ahead for the rest of the game.

04:49:41.500 --> 04:49:47.500
You are a militia down, but eventually the militia that you lost won't matter in the grand scheme of things.

04:49:47.500 --> 04:49:54.500
But that one villager that was lost will have set someone back hundreds of resources more than the militia lost.

04:49:54.500 --> 04:49:59.500
However, I momentarily have fewer military than he could have at some point.

04:49:59.500 --> 04:50:04.500
So now I'm behind if I lose three militia for a villager, but in the long run I'm ahead.

04:50:04.500 --> 04:50:08.900
And that's where the action tension, the resource tension, the greed versus map control

04:50:10.180 --> 04:50:15.700
aspect comes into play. But the militia costs, so the militia have a fixed cost and no maintenance.

04:50:16.900 --> 04:50:21.220
But if I kill a villager, I have permanently heard the maintenance of his economy.

04:50:22.100 --> 04:50:28.900
You see what I'm saying? And also, I don't have to suicide my militia immediately.

04:50:29.540 --> 04:50:33.940
Eventually they become obsolete, like fitmen for human fast expand.

04:50:34.500 --> 04:50:38.700
The adventure becomes late. I don't have to suicide them though. I'm going to try to get as much out of them as I can.

04:50:39.200 --> 04:50:43.200
I'm going to keep poking, harassing, and showing up and whatnot.

04:50:43.600 --> 04:50:48.900
And someone is going to send villagers to try and kill them and then I just walk away and then I go in again.

04:50:48.900 --> 04:50:50.700
And so there's a lot of idle time.

04:50:53.300 --> 04:50:55.500
What are the thresholds for upkeep? There's no upkeep here.

04:51:02.400 --> 04:51:02.900
Okay.

04:51:04.500 --> 04:51:07.300
So cool messages now. Let's see if I can still find it.

04:51:07.300 --> 04:51:10.100
Laugh at that you did it. Out of the time, I'll be back.

04:51:10.100 --> 04:51:13.700
I just know that back in the day, this game also played with Warcraft 3.

04:51:13.700 --> 04:51:15.300
The game keeps on playing, yeah.

04:51:15.300 --> 04:51:20.500
There's someone in the chat called Die Hard Opa. Opa is Dutch for grandpa.

04:51:20.500 --> 04:51:24.500
He said, really fun to see you playing this.

04:51:24.500 --> 04:51:28.500
I see old times coming back. I still remember back at the World Cyber Games.

04:51:28.500 --> 04:51:33.500
This game was also in the Contender List when you were participating personally with Warcraft 3.

04:51:33.500 --> 04:51:42.220
games like this remain very entertaining. That's right. All right, let's check out

04:51:42.220 --> 04:51:50.780
Volpine. Why can't you suicide units? There's no XP here. You can suicide three

04:51:50.780 --> 04:51:59.580
militia to get some kills. But if you do, you lose units and then he's free to start

04:51:59.580 --> 04:52:02.980
doing other things. If you don't suicide them, but you

04:52:02.980 --> 04:52:06.620
protect the suffering, he will keep sending villagers after

04:52:07.020 --> 04:52:08.780
your military over and over.

04:52:11.740 --> 04:52:15.840
So the foxes give how much gold 35 and how difficult are they

04:52:15.840 --> 04:52:20.700
to kill? Okay, three HP. So wait, it's a single hit. And do I

04:52:20.700 --> 04:52:24.620
need to bring back the gold? You can't build on the rocket

04:52:24.620 --> 04:52:27.460
right here. Yeah, remember that from the enclosure map. I

04:52:27.460 --> 04:52:34.180
recognize the gray stuff you need to mine it and let's see how long that takes

04:52:36.180 --> 04:52:43.300
ah okay okay it's like chickens 33 it's the same as chickens you harvest pretty

04:52:43.300 --> 04:52:49.860
fast wait this is kind of OP actually I should make use of this even in dark

04:52:49.860 --> 04:52:53.300
ages for Minutarms Rush

04:52:57.460 --> 04:53:01.760
Wait. Oh! Oh, it's Wi-Fi!

04:53:04.760 --> 04:53:08.360
I wouldn't focus in a normal start. Not really worth it. Wait, really?

04:53:09.760 --> 04:53:11.860
Ah, it's wire transfer.

04:53:15.060 --> 04:53:18.260
Interesting. But you really think it's not worth it?

04:53:19.160 --> 04:53:21.460
Too much walking? Hmm.

04:53:21.560 --> 04:53:26.260
There's also decay in the foxes. Yeah, it explains why I only have 31 instead of 33.

04:53:26.260 --> 04:53:32.940
how many villagers does it require to get 32 out of a fox or 33 I guess 33 is

04:53:32.940 --> 04:53:37.140
impossible but I wonder if two villagers gives 32 instead of 31 let's try it

04:53:37.140 --> 04:54:03.140
that. Oh it gets added immediately per component. Oh look, I got the full 33. There was no

04:54:03.140 --> 04:54:09.340
It was 2DK on 1 villager and 0DK on 2 villager.

04:54:09.340 --> 04:54:10.660
Oh it has 35?

04:54:10.660 --> 04:54:13.900
Oh I thought it was 33, lmao.

04:54:13.900 --> 04:54:14.900
I see.

04:54:14.900 --> 04:54:16.220
Oh yeah, okay.

04:54:16.220 --> 04:54:18.720
Alright.

04:54:18.720 --> 04:54:23.260
So 31, 33.

04:54:23.260 --> 04:54:24.260
Makes sense.

04:54:24.260 --> 04:54:25.260
2 or 4.

04:54:25.260 --> 04:54:27.740
That makes a lot more sense.

04:54:27.740 --> 04:54:28.900
What does the fox say?

04:54:28.900 --> 04:54:31.380
Ring ding ding ding ding!

04:54:31.380 --> 04:54:32.380
Alright.

04:54:32.380 --> 04:54:38.980
Do we play one game against AI here?

04:54:38.980 --> 04:54:41.100
This is kind of awkward.

04:54:41.100 --> 04:54:48.380
The optimum location house blocks farms.

04:54:48.380 --> 04:54:56.820
Are you supposed to build it outside the rock?

04:54:56.820 --> 04:54:59.060
But that's so far away.

04:54:59.060 --> 04:55:00.060
Shit.

04:55:00.060 --> 04:55:12.060
Shit. Is there any place where it's weird. It doesn't even look illegal, the position.

04:55:12.060 --> 04:55:22.060
It looks like it's exactly fucked up in every direction. And sometimes worse.

04:55:22.060 --> 04:55:32.220
yeah oh look here it's okay what about here look here it's buildable but here

04:55:32.220 --> 04:55:38.780
even though it looks buildable it ain't oh here's okay too

04:55:42.740 --> 04:55:47.800
there's I found three places where I can fit a house where it doesn't block one

04:55:47.800 --> 04:55:50.500
line of farms

04:55:52.060 --> 04:55:55.500
Secret tech on the map is to pick Armenians or Georgians.

04:55:56.000 --> 04:55:58.000
Oh, because they get more from foxes or what?

04:55:58.540 --> 04:56:00.540
Mule cards, mule cards.

04:56:01.360 --> 04:56:04.580
Uh... Oh, it's just so you can get the cards there?

04:56:07.740 --> 04:56:08.300
Or what?

04:56:13.460 --> 04:56:14.960
Mule cards for the rookie terrain.

04:56:15.400 --> 04:56:18.000
Okay, I don't understand. I don't know how mule cards work.

04:56:18.000 --> 04:56:25.680
You can't build on the rocks, build outside, give yourself more space to farm, the houses

04:56:25.680 --> 04:56:27.080
outside will even help.

04:56:27.080 --> 04:56:29.440
I don't think you get more space to farm at all.

04:56:29.440 --> 04:56:32.080
How do I get the resources again?

04:56:32.080 --> 04:56:35.000
Money, how do I get money?

04:56:35.000 --> 04:56:40.840
You just, you know.

04:56:40.840 --> 04:56:46.160
Okay.

04:56:46.160 --> 04:56:53.160
I don't think building the houses outside does anything.

04:56:54.680 --> 04:56:55.680
See?

04:56:55.680 --> 04:57:02.680
I already got everything I could possibly get.

04:57:09.360 --> 04:57:13.600
Someone told me I should build the houses outside so I give myself more space to farm,

04:57:13.600 --> 04:57:36.120
But I just illustrated that there is no extra farms you could have.

04:57:36.120 --> 04:57:37.920
You won't find those spulps fast enough?

04:57:37.920 --> 04:57:38.920
I know.

04:57:38.920 --> 04:57:41.000
I know, but I can try.

04:57:41.000 --> 04:57:44.520
Maybe I can get used to it.

04:57:44.520 --> 04:57:51.200
I know them now because when you restart a game and I can say aye it's always the same.

04:57:51.200 --> 04:57:53.200
Fuck!

04:57:53.200 --> 04:57:58.200
Found one.

04:57:58.200 --> 04:58:09.800
Found another.

04:58:09.800 --> 04:58:15.320
the two villager house inside and walk out for the one but I will lose one farm

04:58:15.320 --> 04:58:19.160
location maybe it's always behind the straggler tree yeah it might always be

04:58:19.160 --> 04:58:23.520
behind it might always be behind the straggler tree but I wonder if you always

04:58:23.520 --> 04:58:32.080
get given three house locations because just now I did now there is no

04:58:32.080 --> 04:58:38.640
straggler what dude aoe2 map gen is so

04:58:38.640 --> 04:58:46.280
imbalanced that's crazy imagine I lose

04:58:46.280 --> 04:58:54.160
the invitation because of this this map

04:58:54.160 --> 04:58:56.680
is not designed for this game type then

04:58:56.680 --> 04:59:00.280
why is it in the pool nearly blizzard

04:59:00.280 --> 04:59:05.520
come on! On that map if you want to optimize just place one house and you

04:59:05.520 --> 04:59:18.200
can put the second one later when going for lumber camp. Uh huh. I guess. That is crazy.

04:59:18.200 --> 04:59:23.360
That's crazy. But at least I did find houses now. Okay.

04:59:23.360 --> 04:59:35.360
not meant for the aoe2 game type, let's play one more

04:59:35.360 --> 04:59:39.760
I can't imagine sweating so hard that the suboptimal house placement in the first 5 seconds

04:59:39.760 --> 04:59:47.480
can't see the match, it can, it can

04:59:47.480 --> 04:59:53.480
I can imagine sweating really hard.

04:59:53.480 --> 04:59:57.120
What if Hera holds the tournament only on Vulpine?

04:59:57.120 --> 05:00:06.600
Have you played in close before?

05:00:06.600 --> 05:00:11.400
I think so.

05:00:11.400 --> 05:00:14.640
Dante is lost because of graveyard.

05:00:14.640 --> 05:00:15.640
True!

05:00:15.640 --> 05:00:17.640
What?

05:00:35.120 --> 05:00:37.120
What are you eating? Trash.

05:00:39.280 --> 05:00:41.280
Literal trash.

05:00:41.400 --> 05:00:43.400
Sugar, tapioca stars.

05:00:43.400 --> 05:00:48.400
out of this.

05:00:48.400 --> 05:00:55.400
Alright.

05:00:55.400 --> 05:01:09.720
Grubby, your tournament was amazing.

05:01:09.720 --> 05:01:14.420
got my non-gamer fiancee invested for the finale you're the second one that

05:01:14.420 --> 05:01:18.620
told me today who's coming I read about that that's so cool to hear man I'm

05:01:18.620 --> 05:01:21.500
happy to hear it that you were able to enjoy some game time with your fiancee

05:01:21.500 --> 05:01:27.780
as well some game-watching time very cool I actually love that I love hearing

05:01:27.780 --> 05:01:34.860
that so much okay let's go guys Arabia I should be able to she'd be able to hold

05:01:34.860 --> 05:01:40.540
my own on this map. There's a bit of rust of course but at least it's not

05:01:40.540 --> 05:01:48.620
vulpine or some such. Alright here we go. Let's do a little bit of scouting. Try to

05:01:48.620 --> 05:01:56.300
find some boars, find some sheep or tapper whatever they are. Tappabara.

05:01:56.300 --> 05:02:09.300
Salamnesh, we're playing our trusty Ethiopians against Georgians, found every single Capybara already, that's nice.

05:02:13.300 --> 05:02:19.300
Goths, okay. Close enough, close enough. Wait, there's more Capybara than I expected here.

05:02:20.300 --> 05:02:24.300
Did they increase the amount of Capybara that you can find?

05:02:26.300 --> 05:02:38.300
You eat the capybara? Hell yeah. You bet your ass we're gonna eat the capybara.

05:02:38.300 --> 05:02:52.300
Of course. What's a good lumber line this one I guess.

05:02:52.300 --> 05:02:55.300
you built this you're gonna mine from this tree you're gonna mine from this

05:02:55.300 --> 05:03:01.980
tree we're gonna build some houses in front to hold our own against any

05:03:01.980 --> 05:03:12.060
would-be assailants namely like so and like so two houses yeah that's really a

05:03:12.060 --> 05:03:15.940
lot of capybara they changed the map generation on these things guys it's

05:03:15.940 --> 05:03:19.260
got yeah it doesn't matter I have no idea what's the difference between goth

05:03:19.260 --> 05:03:25.740
Sicilians, Gaeliks, whatever, I have no idea.

05:03:25.740 --> 05:03:30.780
I don't know what Goths do.

05:03:30.780 --> 05:03:43.260
I think they have infantry or something.

05:03:43.260 --> 05:03:44.260
Goths are infantry, right?

05:03:44.260 --> 05:03:45.660
Okay, I got that part right at least.

05:03:45.660 --> 05:03:47.540
Okay, there's a gold here.

05:03:47.540 --> 05:04:09.620
might be nearby based on finding this gold here. There's the other boar. But I'm too busy

05:04:09.620 --> 05:04:21.060
managing my econ to be able to check his base for real.

05:04:21.060 --> 05:04:28.500
Alright, oh my god, oh what the fuck is that?

05:04:28.500 --> 05:04:31.780
I sent the villager into his town center and why are we right next to each other?

05:04:31.780 --> 05:04:32.780
What the fuck is this?

05:04:32.780 --> 05:04:36.300
And why did my villager walk into him?

05:04:36.300 --> 05:04:36.800
GG

05:04:42.100 --> 05:04:45.140
Why are we so close to each other? What the fuck happened with the map gen?

05:04:45.140 --> 05:04:46.220
Since I was gone!

05:04:48.100 --> 05:04:49.700
Mora Kappa Bara!

05:04:51.020 --> 05:04:54.140
Villagers magnetically attracted to the enemy town center

05:04:55.020 --> 05:04:57.420
Spawning extremely close to each other

05:05:01.700 --> 05:05:02.820
That's crazy

05:05:02.820 --> 05:05:09.820
You probably got his capybara cause you're so close.

05:05:12.380 --> 05:05:14.260
That's worth it.

05:05:14.260 --> 05:05:17.580
What the hell is he doing?

05:05:17.580 --> 05:05:18.740
He's doing the chicken...

05:05:18.740 --> 05:05:21.500
What is this, phosphorus?

05:05:21.500 --> 05:05:26.220
At this elo people do the chicken pool?

05:05:26.220 --> 05:05:31.700
That's crazy.

05:05:31.700 --> 05:05:43.860
This is Smurf guys, we're against a Giga Smurf.

05:05:43.860 --> 05:05:54.260
It's Hera on his ult.

05:05:54.260 --> 05:06:15.020
This is not going to be aggressive then.

05:06:15.020 --> 05:06:22.020
This guy is going to do some kind of fast gas or something.

05:06:45.020 --> 05:06:51.380
He saw I had twitchy fingers and he decided to keep dancing his butt in front of me to see if I would touch

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He saw my villager behavior. He's like touch me, touch me, touch me

05:06:54.920 --> 05:07:18.920
Oh, I forgot about the chickens.

05:07:18.920 --> 05:07:25.920
this guy thinks a lot of himself and his micro he thinks it's really cool

05:07:48.920 --> 05:08:01.920
Smurf, 100%

05:08:01.920 --> 05:08:07.920
Just getting out of no idea

05:08:18.920 --> 05:08:45.920
He's so cold when on the offensive.

05:08:45.920 --> 05:08:50.920
now what?

05:08:50.920 --> 05:08:53.920
losing hello villagers, you little sweatlord

05:08:53.920 --> 05:09:00.920
not so cool now are ya?

05:09:00.920 --> 05:09:14.920
oh my god I have so many

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I am.

05:09:44.920 --> 05:09:46.920
Oh

05:10:44.920 --> 05:10:51.920
No offense, he's a microsweat, but on defense it's trash.

05:12:44.920 --> 05:12:51.920
Classic play by both of us low.

05:14:14.920 --> 05:14:21.920
So hard to inspire.

05:14:44.920 --> 05:14:51.920
I'm not sure what to do with this guy, but I'm not sure what to do with this guy, but

05:16:14.920 --> 05:16:16.920
Oh

05:17:14.920 --> 05:17:21.920
He went elite scurms.

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I have no idea if it's a full wall.

05:18:06.920 --> 05:18:08.920
Oh

05:18:26.120 --> 05:18:28.120
How's that work so

05:18:36.920 --> 05:18:43.920
ff

05:18:53.160 --> 05:18:54.160
ff

05:18:54.160 --> 05:18:57.160
ff

05:18:57.160 --> 05:19:01.160
ff

05:19:01.160 --> 05:19:05.160
ff

05:19:05.160 --> 05:19:15.160
GG. Good warming up game. Good warming up game. In this game, hills give bonus damage

05:19:15.160 --> 05:19:22.680
and they take less damage there. I think at some point I was ahead but then I took too

05:19:22.680 --> 05:19:27.400
much damage in the counterattack and also my unit choice, skirmisher spear against scout

05:19:27.400 --> 05:19:33.640
skirmisher, he has the micro advantage. My spear cannot connect with horses so I think

05:19:33.640 --> 05:19:36.640
I think I'm supposed to have my own horses.

05:19:39.640 --> 05:19:42.640
Yeah, not bad for a long break. Not bad for a long break.

05:19:42.640 --> 05:19:45.640
I fell behind villagers, I knew that I fell behind villagers at some point,

05:19:45.640 --> 05:19:48.640
but at some point I think I was ahead in villagers. Can you tell here if it's...

05:19:48.640 --> 05:19:51.640
No, because this graph sucks ass.

05:19:56.640 --> 05:19:58.640
Spear skirmish legit strat.

05:19:58.640 --> 05:20:06.680
but it only works if I have more scurms it doesn't work if you're already

05:20:06.680 --> 05:20:18.720
losing skirmore but I don't know like my my my skirmishers get hit by his

05:20:18.720 --> 05:20:23.840
horse I guess my skirm I guess my spear needs to stay inside of my skirmishers

05:20:23.840 --> 05:20:31.320
just right behind so that any time it's very hard to micro it's very hard to

05:20:31.320 --> 05:20:35.080
micro my skirmish are here his skirmish are here and my spear keeps like

05:20:35.080 --> 05:20:38.520
shadowing my skirmish never forward to get hit by skirmish but always there

05:20:38.520 --> 05:20:41.400
when his horse comes close

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Oh, Bengani, Osio Buga, Waga, Salamne, Salamne, Gambagnani, oh Bengani, thank you.

05:20:52.400 --> 05:20:55.400
Oh, what is this map generation?

05:20:55.400 --> 05:20:58.400
I've never seen us so close together.

05:20:58.400 --> 05:21:05.400
Oh, and then I accidentally ran into a villager into his base.

05:21:05.400 --> 05:21:10.400
Outside of that, considering I ran a villager into his base, that's a really big deficit.

05:21:10.400 --> 05:21:11.400
Not bad.

05:21:12.400 --> 05:21:15.400
Yeah, we're right next to each other. It's a crazy map generation.

05:21:15.400 --> 05:21:17.400
Very fun, though. But I- I-

05:21:17.400 --> 05:21:20.400
Can I be honest? I didn't even know this was possible.

05:21:20.400 --> 05:21:23.400
I think in all my hundreds of games of AV2, this never happened.

05:21:23.400 --> 05:21:25.400
Not this close.

05:21:25.400 --> 05:21:27.400
Is he following chickens? Yeah.

05:21:29.400 --> 05:21:33.400
But I think this guy is just hyper-specialized in certain scales.

05:21:33.400 --> 05:21:36.400
He does this shit, and he's like super sweaty with his horse,

05:21:36.400 --> 05:21:38.400
but he was horrible at defense both times.

05:21:38.400 --> 05:21:42.400
This guy is like way better at offense than defense.

05:21:42.400 --> 05:21:48.400
Like, this was a fucking shit show, and I did terrible to exploit it.

05:21:48.400 --> 05:21:52.400
Like, I didn't kill enough, but like, if I had a little bit better army, he would be so folded.

05:21:56.400 --> 05:22:01.400
Expo tech was wrong. You would commit into a countered unit after seeing mass scurms.

05:22:01.400 --> 05:22:04.400
A few horses ain't bad, but the Ethiopians are very bad cavalry.

05:22:04.400 --> 05:22:06.400
If Expo, we want instant siege as well.

05:22:06.400 --> 05:22:14.200
right but I cancelled my crossbow attack I knew that it was about to because he's

05:22:14.200 --> 05:22:18.680
on elite scurns I went for my own elite scurns

05:22:23.200 --> 05:22:28.480
if you had fleshing maybe yeah I didn't get my fleshing

05:22:28.480 --> 05:22:35.960
Where's our villager count, 23-25?

05:22:35.960 --> 05:22:39.680
Because I have idle TC or what?

05:22:39.680 --> 05:22:43.080
You killed two villagers somehow.

05:22:43.080 --> 05:22:46.320
All that and you lost almost no bills.

05:22:46.320 --> 05:22:56.200
But now he has 55 second idle TC.

05:22:56.200 --> 05:22:59.700
If that's 1800 MMR, I'm not even that afraid of it at all.

05:22:59.700 --> 05:23:05.480
He has free loomsies up until I see, I see.

05:23:05.480 --> 05:23:08.040
This didn't feel oppressive at all, the skill did.

05:23:08.040 --> 05:23:15.080
I just need to get back into it and then improve compared to where I was before.

05:23:15.080 --> 05:23:16.880
And analyze more.

05:23:16.880 --> 05:23:19.440
But it's late, I must go.

05:23:19.440 --> 05:23:24.560
We have, as I would say, uncorked the bottle of reconnecting with AV2.

05:23:24.560 --> 05:23:31.040
have uncorked it again. We're gonna try and be a little bit more methodical about improvements

05:23:31.040 --> 05:23:37.120
and address some of the hotkey issues, though I feel like hotkeys aren't too bad either.

05:23:37.120 --> 05:23:41.040
I have a couple of small problems with hotkeys, but I think if I keep it like this too, it's

05:23:41.040 --> 05:23:43.880
also not too bad.

05:23:43.880 --> 05:23:51.540
Yeah, enjoy it Robocop, thank you.

05:23:51.540 --> 05:23:58.000
Probably be a combination of Warcraft and HMP2 in the coming up weeks guys.

05:23:58.000 --> 05:24:04.520
Thank you so much for tuning in, thank you for everything, I hope you guys enjoyed.

05:24:04.520 --> 05:24:09.520
I'm going to see if there's someone from the invitation I can read. Good night, guys, GG's.