you
in practice there's only winning and learning the only way to fail is to not learn
you
I think it's more useless than my performance against Lewis.
And the Scrivers just did nothing.
The Archers are going to just attach the Eagles as well.
Looking horrible poverty economy, vipers on wealthware, the Italian government doesn't recognize him as a citizen, so they can pay him for all the great streams lately.
From one peacock to another.
From one peacock to another. Thank you, and Darius, thank you. Good to see you guys. Good to see you. Thank you for the sub, fellow peacock.
From one peacock. Got it, got it.
it all right guys all right guys welcome to this room I'm not going to get a
haircut until we play the aoe tutorial I don't know about when the aoe tutorial
but until we play it so we're gonna have to deal with this now I look a little
low FPS so I think I'm gonna re-enable my webcam
Okay, I think that should be better probably. Welcome to the stream everybody. We got some
big plans today. Gonna play some Age of Empires 2. And it will be interrupted at some point
by, oh my score is incorrect, it will be interrupted by some coaching with you thermal in Warcraft
3. He asked for some human coaching. And I see that as a good opportunity to get someone
more invested in a game that he doesn't have a tournament in. And that would
increase my chances in the tournament, so I accept it. The only problem is it
also costs me time, which will lower my chances in the tournament, probably. Of
course, we don't know whether practicing more will actually make me better. But I
guess, I guess it might. Yesterday had a little off day. Today we're back. I think
the off day was nice, was very restful. I spent a lot of time watching chickens, doing chores
and what not. Just good stuff, good stuff. Are you enjoying all your competitors getting
destroyed around 1200 like you did some months ago? Well, they're getting, they're getting
it fast and I'm not grinding enough yet. I've been watching you thermal recently and they
definitely needs help in the night of the Northman's house I see nice oh okay
all right here we go guys let's let's start things off with a game once the
tournament grabs I shouldn't announce it I know when it is but I shouldn't be the
one to announce it
Do we know everyone in the tournament?
I don't know who you know.
I was able to find out about people I've never heard of, like Mary's aggressive, he
has cute energy, the forehead liner.
Did you see Loco will be in the tournament?
Guys, I know everything.
I'm in the private server.
Alright, if you don't know, there's going to be a super secret Age of Empires 2 tournament
happening soon, somewhere in June. It's AOE 2 and it's with a bunch of streamers that
do not mainline AOE 2. I'm also invited and so the practice arc has begun about three
days ago, but I'm still doing pretty light practice for now. It's going to be picking
up a lot as the weeks and days go on. Currently I'm still playing Way, which is the civilization
that I was playing the most recently when I had my AOE 2 arc a couple of months ago,
but I'm gonna be diversifying across a bunch of different civilizations, no doubt.
That's the plan, we're gonna be playing some games, I have a lot of weaknesses in my play,
we're gonna be trying to work to remove some of the weaknesses.
Some problems I have is indecisiveness, of course eco balancing will always be a problem,
also very much the indecisiveness of not knowing what you need to make before I get information
from an opponent. Now in Warcraft 3 I don't have that problem because I know which units
are good generalists and can always be made even if you have no information and I even
coach people on what units to get if you're not sure what your opponent is
doing. This is a very important thing to know. However, it's not so easy when it's
not your main game and here I'm afraid to get hard counters because unlike
Warcraft 3 this game has extremely hard counters and therefore I'm afraid
to get stuck with the wrong unit.
Okay we found everything we need to find.
Oops, they got out of villager for a little bit.
I also have too many on wood.
That's fine.
We'll just go for a minute arms rush.
Can't wait for Grubby vs Xingxing vs Knoth, it's gonna be a lot of fun guys, this is really
fun content and I'm glad we're in a arc of content where that is a thing where
these things are happening. Oh well that's because I was reading chat that's
fine that that that just happens there's just nothing you can do about it you
You reach out, you lose.
I accept that completely.
Good thing is I will be able to get information from a Mended Arms Rush because I have four
villagers on wood.
so I won't be as blind as usual. Now I have both bores, there's chickens here and there's
berries here, berries are safer, chickens are further out, my big gold is forward, secondary
gold is forward. I have a gold pack, there's this big stone here, behind the trees, this
is open actually. And I am going to go ahead and make my barracks now.
Shung Shorin. Shung Shorin.
Thanks, yeah.
And we're also going to exploit... Really nice not having to micro my scouts.
Can we see it from the positive side, guys?
We don't have to micro the scouts.
Isn't that nice?
It's going to save us a lot of efforts.
the diagonal tree. I won 13 games in a row on the ladder with insane tower rush, you
should try it. I won the show match against Banjoa Leon with tower rush, you should try
watching it and leave a like, comment and subscribe. Oh shit. Okay, I text with that
loom oh I text with that loom mayday very greedy but it's because I forgot I
was chilling I was big time chilling
hopefully I won't be punished surely I won't be
Let's make the loom after upgrades.
Oh god, I hope he doesn't see it.
I don't know where he is.
What?
Oh.
It's because he let himself get hit.
That's so funny.
Okay now we want archery range as fast as possible.
Whoa, what a big wall.
That is such an unusual terrain.
That's funny.
Did I get my upgrade?
Yeah, no horsecrawler yet.
Looks like a wall already.
aggressive little wall are
where would you have his wood
try to go for the less expected area
one spear
he's doing some kind of fast castle nonsense
this will bring uh... yeah he's fast castling alright
He doesn't archers.
Where are you going buddy?
I should leave the spare man at home he's not gonna do any good
What? He already has a tower. That's crazy.
Ahhhh...
What the hell?
It's over.
You think he already teched up?
Probably, right?
Say GG.
Dude, I thought about it, but then I saw the score and I realized maybe he sucks.
what if he sucks that's always a possibility
Suck.
Suck!
The score is just not good, like he should have castled already, or so I thought, with his set up.
15 on food, 15 farms, 18, there's three here, okay, we're good.
All right, let's um...
Hmm, sub to the grove.
Hmm, grab something.
He's fighting his way out.
Okay.
Shhh!
What are you doing there?
What?
Shhh!
I'm tiger cavalry rushing just needs enough stone
Alright, we got it.
Whoa, that's so unlucky, bro!
What the fuck? Huh?
That is extremely unlucky.
Wow! Horrible!
That just kills me by the way.
I don't know what to do at this point.
Alright, fuck it.
I know I played it very bad as well.
Well, let's just, uh, let's watch. I know I played very bad.
Cancel making it home. Doesn't that cost me a lot of stone?
I wouldn't have enough, and I didn't have a marketplace.
And I already have... no timing.
Nope. Yes it does, Chad! I made it with 650 stone.
I will literally not have enough to make it again.
I mean, I'm not allowed to make a stone... let's be clear.
I'm not allowed to make a castle outside my wall when I have zero units, and I knew they
have ten archers.
Okay.
So, it's already my mistake.
However, it was still unlucky for me that he found it immediately, that's all.
I was farming earlier, I have 200 resources more, I have 2 more villagers that's normal
because I have an economy upgrade, he also has more idle TC, now he has more farms,
we're both pretty heavy on lumber because we're making archers, I tried to make a tower
but with only two villagers, apparently that takes fucking ages, I didn't know that, thought
it was going to be done already.
What I am surprised about is that he had a tower, normally people don't just have a tower,
Because he already stopped the minute arms like when I send my villagers now
And what does he see
Ah, oh my god wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait he has town watch
What?
He spent 300?
No, it's 150. This is the second upgrade, town patrol.
That's why he saw me!
It's 75 resources, and how long does it take?
How many seconds?
The same as one villager oh my god he went town watch dude who does that nobody
does that wait unless Saracens get it for free they don't he was playing
defensively town patrol town watch maybe got house ah you think maybe he got
house that's why he got it oh that's a good it's a good idea
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll try down at war 4, yeah.
Notice how exposed his woodline is, he could have made the tower on the opposite side.
Well, I wanted to deny the gold, so this was an amazing location where I deny his wood
and gold.
The location is amazing, but I needed 5 villagers and I couldn't have expected that he has town
watch which allows him to immediately make a tower, though arguably in a very bad position.
It should have been here. He fucked up. You fucked up man. He did get the attack upgrade
so maybe he didn't fuck up. But why was my score still okay? Look at the score, I'm
still ahead even though I'm fucking up oh because he has two minutes idle TC
time bro I'm at the same elo is this guy two minute idle TC time I'm only
losing because of knowledge micro macro economy distribution lack of making
army illegal castles and not knowing what to do in castle but look at the
macro on this guy 151 I'm in the same elo bracket that I lost lost this
Yo Gribby, I've been watching your Rocker 3 content every night on YouTube. Awesome stuff man, keep it up.
Hey, thanks man.
And then I was much faster on Castle Age too, I just didn't have units.
Oh, you're in chat.
Grubby, can you please stop showing me how bad I do with my TC?
It deserves to be shown.
Guys, look, he's sending his archers to the left before I chose my castle location.
He was just doing a left poke after doing a right poke.
It was just a coincidental find.
I send them left because I feared your swordsman.
What?
What do you mean?
I don't have swordsmen.
What was he doing behind this?
Guys, why is there no like simple button to see how many buildings someone has?
Like in Starcraft 2 you can press T, you can see all the buildings.
Here I have to click them all one by one.
He's double archery range, single TC, with 300 resources per no university no ballistics.
There is select all hotkey.
What do you mean?
There isn't.
Double click the building.
That's not a hotkey.
I have...
Oh, control shift A.
Okay, control shift A.
And then control shift...
W is Rax or what? No.
Blacksmith is D.
Control shift... what else?
Don't shift I is mills whoever would use that holy
M is market B is Barak wait so stable S yeah no it's blacksmith maybe it's T but he has
no stable my bad I said the left cuz I thought wake at the wool swordsman I lost to this guys
I LOST BECAUSE HE'S BAD!
Just kidding.
Alright, I think it's more useful to select all the melons so you don't get sent to the middle.
Uh-huh.
Yikes, rude.
Guys, it's a joke.
It's a joke.
You were perfectly fine.
Yeah, there's like new viewers don't know it's a joke.
Uh, you were perfectly fine, not lost at all, you cancelled this for almost no stone cast.
But I...
What do you mean by almost no?
Because I only had 17 over-resources, so I think I won't be able to remake.
Hey, thank you, Celtics.
Did you have a market?
I did not.
So I was many steps away from being able to use my castle again.
Guys, I'm going to try fast castle this time.
Defend fast castle with way.
Tiger calf rush.
Tiger calf are 80 gold, 60 wood, 80 wood, 60 gold, 80 wood, 60 gold.
Don't tell them, they don't know Bristown.
I know this guy the goth father, I played against him like a million times.
It's such a coincidence, we're always playing at the same time.
I love the Elder Champions, oh fuck, I accidentally killed a sheep, heheheh.
The wood lines are insane.
The woodline situation is crazy.
Just need to find one more boar and then we're done, right?
Where is the other boar?
Now what am I playing against? M-L-I
Malians or what? M-L-I
Probably Malians.
Yeah, that still doesn't tell me anything.
I don't know what they do.
Something with gold.
They love gold.
They're gold gravers.
They like scouts?
Oh yeah?
Damn, already 1500? Yeah, we're tanking MMR fast.
Keep in mind we come from 1700, but I'm experimenting.
It's a plant ascent.
Remember, I'm like a pilot, flying a plane.
You don't just go up and stay at 10,000 feet.
You land every now and then and make new connections.
So I am fast castling, I kind of have to show it to him that I'm doing it.
I'm rushing Tiger cavalry.
Are you playing a slow game mode?
No.
Nice one.
Nice one
Just me
What are you doing now, stables?
So it's going scouts opening.
We expected that right?
Sorry, we're overloading the chickens and the berries.
No gold yet?
Uh, stables.
Maybe I can wait for him here on the hill.
A little low in wood.
all one horse coming
I will fight you
It's so annoying the villagers start like turning around when they get hit.
Like they're literally, I experience it as literal non-compliance.
Let me in you little busters!
Alright fuck it, just die then.
It's very annoying that villagers don't listen.
60 foot- FUCK I THOUGHT I WAS WORD!
Yeah
Are these the worst Fosferu?
Yeah.
I wasted the entry.
Man, the way that the game helps you by making your villagers randomly run in fear when you're
telling them where safety is and they just start walking the opposite way is so frustrating.
Alright, thank you very much, man. Appreciate it.
Ah, I didn't know the cost of the tiger cavalry. It's food and gold, not wood.
Add a barracks to this building, you'll be fined against count, maybe second verse 30's again.
I don't want to sacrifice anything. I want to get better at doing this.
Is Tiger Calvary even worth the phosphory? I don't know the units. I don't know too! That's how I
would try. Okay, go next.
The equivalent mistake of using rod with skull, true.
That's true.
Alright, let's just do like a random build pick.
A random build pick chat.
scouts, archers, mended arms, and follow-up. Or should we... adapt? Scout and adapt? No.
Phosphoroo is usually best with Wood and Gold units. Makes sense. Because it's too
First how to scale up the food actually.
What is the AOE2 equivalent of an arc?
I don't know.
No economic advantage, that's for sure.
Whatever SIV doesn't have economic advantage, it has like fat-men in arms like Rollins or
something.
just not get it FC yeah because I also sacrifice all the eco upgrades I could
otherwise have what if I go for many times into skirmishers what do you
think about that many times into skirmish because they always go for
archers
I'm still a ecotech.
Don't like it, but it can delay an enemy too.
Why you keep talking about Lich?
I keep seeing someone in chat talk about go Lich.
Go Lich.
This is not Warcraft 3 buddy.
This is AoE 2.
In the wrong game.
I know, I know we all love Warcraft 3 here, but I can't make glitches.
Ship, ship, ship.
Let's see if I can find... Oh, okay. Oh, whoa, okay. Alright, it's a deer game.
Alright.
So, that will delay my scouting a little bit.
Found the first bore as well, it's down here in the bottom left.
There's my big gold, there's a hill over it.
Somehow, usually there's a hill over the gold,
which makes for a nice attack angle for enemies.
I'm playing against Italians, which I think have a kick-ass
unique unit, if I remember correctly.
Let's put it over here.
Didn't find the other bore yet.
Or any sheep by the way, for that.
Okay, there we go.
Didn't find the other bore, it's probably somewhere over here.
Still need to find a bunch of sheep too.
I'm going too far out now with the scout.
Let's just stop across.
Usually I don't like backtracking with the scout, but I think it's better at the moment
to just do that because I need to access the other areas.
That's pretty nice house locations for walling.
If he wanted to steal anything, it would all be his already.
Everything would be his, because I didn't find nothing.
Somehow I don't understand.
Didn't find Bore, didn't find 3rd and 4th.
Checkie!
There it is.
There it is always.
Alright, once more into the great outdoors.
No, no. Dear first.
Good start with the neutral deer over there.
After all, I shouldn't die.
Oh, six deer.
Give it 4 on wood.
Three more villies, then that.
Send the new guys to wood so I can make an early Barak and gold mine.
Let's go for the nearer deer now, the nearer deer.
one more oh that's a fast age up holy crap really how did you do that must be
safe bonus. It has to be. Surely.
Get ready to go
Fuck
I'm here.
I
It's a lot of Archer's holy shit.
Who does that?
Someone with scouting info I guess.
Why am I getting gold with skirmisher builds?
Am I stupid?
Ah, I need blacksmith.
Oh, I'm so dead.
Why am I getting gold?
With fricking...
Blacksmith!
with skirmish or bells
so much force
Struck off
The dwarves ducked too greedily and too deep.
What are you doing?
Oh, I got mad at the door building.
I got mad at their building, and they're building a lava cat.
I was about to bite their head off.
What are you doing?
You idiots!
I keep committing skirmishers into scouts and knights, it's not very good.
Oh
I'm not sure if I can get the kill.
GG!
GG GG GG!
I got stupider.
I got stupider since my break.
I forgot several habits without knowing I forgot it.
It reminds me of how sometimes when I sleep like 5 hours my brain works less well but
But I still think that I'm at my normal level, five or six hours.
Brain works worse, but I think that I'm mentally the same, but I'm worse and I don't know it.
It requires four hours of sleep to know that I'm sleep deprived and it goes into clown
mode.
And at least I know it and I don't expect too much of myself.
But the month, how long has it been since I took a break?
Not that long, but a month or two, maybe a month or two, maybe two months actually.
Because it was late inspire for a month and then work for a month
The two months of break I forgot habits without knowing that I forgot that and I go back in with a sense of the familiar
While having gotten sloppier probably in every single way decisiveness
economic
Sturdiness eco spread
Unit control is most likely worse, but similar
multitasking awareness
knowledge
probably similar as before. Which is bad. It's not good. Yeah, that's love here. Yeah,
I may need to like rewatch some coaching or watch some new build guides, just re-enter
a little bit of purpose in my play. Because basically, I'm losing the exact same way that
I was pre-coaching, which is not making any units, being afraid to make any units, even
when I try to tell myself that that's a problem.
At least having fun?
I actually am.
I'm not gonna rage quit.
I'm a very unemotional player compared to Tire One and Hera,
so I can lose and keep complete equanimity of spirit,
all right, tranquility itself.
This lost streak that I've been having
doesn't affect me at all.
In fact, it's setting me up for greater joy in the future
as I reclaim what is rightfully mine.
No, better than that.
The MMR is not rightfully mine.
I didn't take it for granted and in fact I was grateful to get that high in the first
place.
This recent descent down has humbled me as it should.
And this is a good thing.
But yeah, I might have to re-watch some coaching, but I'm not going to make a T90 Tower on Gold.
Actually I did make a T90 Tower on Gold this time.
this clip.
and the regretter. If you lose something and you regret it, you are a loser and a regretter.
Facts. Now that's modern-day streamer poetry. And if you win something, you're a winner.
And if you're angry, you're an angrierer. An angrierer.
Watch Hera's Lith knights. Stop talking to me about Lich, man!
Man, this is not Warcraft 3, this is Aoe2.
This is like a guy in chat that's been telling, I'm gonna show his chat history.
I'm getting seriously pissed off, man.
Leave me alone.
I can practice and play however I want.
This is one guy that keeps telling me to do the same thing.
Have you tried Hera's Fast Castle Knights?
He has a video for Lich Knights I think you do good at.
It gives you a focusing point.
A good win condition.
Try Hera's Lich Fast Castle.
sweet. Litch. Litch. I already told him to cut it out. And he keeps doing it. Litch fast
castle. Litch. Litch. Go Litch fast castle right now. Banda Charin. No, he met Lithuanians.
But anyway, don't tell me what to do. I don't like you to force to tell me what to do. Nobody
In fact, there's not one person that likes that in the whole world, not even just streamers.
Suggestions?
But nobody likes to be told what to do.
Takes away the joy.
Have you tried Lich Fast Castle Grubby yet?
Don't grumble the strength to you.
You got him!
Of course it's you, Daniel.
Let me see if Uthermul wants to do the coaching thing.
Yo, do you want to do a C3 coaching?
We still have to think about the 35 months.
Guys, I consider these last days still as de-rusting, okay?
It's still de-rusting, okay?
No, not once.
It's still been de-rusting.
Soon?
No, I just got a message.
I just got a message from my wife.
She said,
By the way, did you realize the Barnevelder chickens,
which are our chickens,
are a mixture just like us,
a mix of Dutch and Chinese.
It's true, Bartabelder's are crossbred between different Chinese chickens and Dutch chickens,
it's true.
No, that's crazy man, that's crazy.
By the way, I don't think I have any Chinese, but she does, I mean Senator once again I'm
from Singapore, I have nothing to do with the CCP.
crossbreeding is wonderful what do you guys think? like 25% you? well no I'm
Indonesian not Chinese. the thing is cruiser they all knew what they're doing
right it's it's one big puppet show it's a theater
Um, you thermal, what's your thermal doing?
Is he live?
Twitch you thermal.
He's in game, Warcraft, Starcraft.
Okay, let's, let's tune in.
Do you require my assistance?
What is it now?
Alright, we'll do a short coaching stint and then we'll be back to HVAP hours, okay?
You are the one that's patiently wrong right now.
He asked for Warcraft coaching.
Come back, homie.
The Lionhorn...
Oh, it's a lot of this aura I think, yeah.
A little bit of aura farming.
What MMR is he?
Ah, let's see.
Let's see, let's see, let's see.
I should do a little arc major.
Eh.
Might expand I guess.
Holy shit. He's 1500.
Objection?
Nice.
I mean...
I don't know. Are you American by any chance?
Viper's coming back chat!
He's doing it!
I think after learning a lot of languages
Viper won more maps than Hera just saying
It's because he didn't play my tourney
English honestly is pretty nuts
Oh, I could have been clean he is like
to be fair
But if Hyper loses to your fault, it's true.
It might have been because he played this one before this one, and the hero will be able to get on that, bro.
Oh, we are true.
Oh, the juke. Who's this man?
Why did he not pick Brilliant yet?
I was gonna go for a camp at some point, but then I just...
It's so bad.
Walking in his base, which is pretty dumb.
Maybe he doesn't know he hasn't got Brilliant, because he sees an aura already, but it's devotion.
the pools are low-key kind of tanky and by low-key I mean extremely high-key
what's this young speak he already said our farm low-key high-key
try hard to get gas wasn't like this in my day
oh my god he killed the big ASP dude brother
I'm not gonna get level 3
where are you gonna spawn? about there
hey they accolized the unfriking... that's messed up
I thought I was gonna be able to...
because they were not idle
like these accolized girls are gonna TP
they were not idle
I know the freaking slowing power my biggest nightmare
He did pick aura right now
Why do I play like such a clown?
The question is on everyone's mind
Yo much, I wanted to show the clown video that I posted in mothchat yesterday
yesterday but I couldn't find it can you link it to me
lich fast castle just subscribed with tearful
lich fast castle thank you for the sub man appreciate it
I thought it was too late on that actually.
I hate that the main building thing also attacks me.
True.
Yeah, that's the wrong neighborhood, bro.
Wrong neighborhood.
Oh, how did he just heal in time?
Is it attacking on that base, Hurricane or not?
Which?
Uhhhhh...
Hi, hey, hey.
Oh no.
There's another dude.
I have not agreed to this.
Come here, bro.
Isn't this mad king really late?
I'm block your teammate, you idiot.
Oh god, he's throwing.
I've been here before.
Wait, what's that car allowed to?
Unkillable race.
Job done.
Huh.
I'm gonna go get him.
I'm gonna get him.
He should have militia-farned the green cap for looking around again somehow.
Don't ask me how.
He's like you and A.V.2?
What do you mean?
I didn't throw, I was never ahead in any of my games.
Oh no, why did you storm up the ledge man?
I don't want to expand actually behind this.
This is so bad.
Why you storm up the ledge?
You going to kill him?
No.
Yeah, I don't think we're gonna do anything else here to be honest
Yeah, we've seen it with the brand thank you. Oh, what okay?
That guy living all that time just for me to sacrifice him to the gold like that. That's my bad
actually my Russian accent is more of a caricature of Russian than death note
death note doesn't sound like that I like the contrast there oh no walker 3
Oh, working pretty awesome.
Thank you, Excon.
Against your will, you will see something again.
Where's the sound?
May you're on now?
Oh, on what?
Yeah.
Why does it keep muting at the beginning of a video, but you can't rewind it?
Are you mugging me right now?
In what metric?
Any?
Status mugging?
What do you mean by that?
I mean like I might be status mocking you maybe I don't know you're fine
What does mugging mean alpha male other guy it's when someone eclipses your coolness or your handsomeness
Someone else's alpha you're not this build before right away. I kind of doubt. It's a build actually
You know what I mean?
Are you looking for me right now?
He couldn't say, well, certainly not physically,
because you're so handsome, I would almost go gay for you.
So he's like, status marking, maybe my status is better
than yours, because my fame, maybe I'm the alpha male
in the status and fame department,
and well, I don't know your finances,
but I have quite a bit of money,
and maybe I'm financially ahead of you,
I could have alpha mill points there
Gonna have to get in there
Guess I'm running he'll from downtown. They always do
He's tier 3.
Orb of corruption is shooting already.
I never noticed these freaking ghouls just whacking away at my units.
His micro is pretty damn clean, huh?
The bolts are so random.
Maybe I can stay.
Get that back into me, I guess.
I don't know how much the coil heals but that was an unpleasant amount.
The crazy thing is this is your thermal dump strength because he has to read items and
he doesn't know how much coil heals.
They just kind of coil no-hot one by one and it's really annoying.
Oh, this guy thinks he's new.
Oh, that's a lot of dudes.
Hey, can I?
That's why you get the spell, I guess.
Very nice.
Oh, look, he's splitting up the low rifles.
You gonna bail? Please?
the guy spent all his money on items
hey I don't actually know if I like what I was doing self help kind of good
there's a grabster sorry for leaking your name in my title by the way apparently
apparently it was a public knowledge grubby grubby from grubhouse
this actually did feel kind of good hmm okay so if I play against undead if I
won base I always lose so I have to expand in some capacity and then I don't
know if I prefer the fast one or this one
extended coaching in work of three I can reach it today we're pretty close
You just got 1500.
A little bit of coaching, you know.
A little bit of coaching.
I'm going to call him Chad.
Hello?
One base. I don't know why.
It doesn't even matter how much I try.
Keep that in mind.
Yeah, you like it?
It looks good.
Can I ask you your influences so far
in your playstyle?
What has formed your playstyle?
Well, I watched a couple of pro replays, which influenced it a little bit, but for the most
part I kind of tend to go with my own experiences.
We talked a bit a while ago, right?
And I was like, okay, expanding against Night Elf sucks, so I don't do it.
And then you told me, no, you kind of have to, but I, like, yeah, like for example, against
Orc, if the game goes too long, I always lose.
So against Orca, I just try to all in against Undead.
If I all in, I always lose.
So then I try to expand, kind of like that, you know?
So it's mostly my own experiences.
Okay.
The replays I watched are really interesting,
but it's kind of hard to copy
because of meta and how people play.
Yeah.
Do you ever watch pro replay
and think why don't they just do this?
A little bit, but then I realized that they do it
for a reason, most likely, so.
You don't call them stupid.
No, no, no.
For example, I watched Infi against Anandad.
What was his name?
One of the best ones.
120?
Yeah, 120, I think so.
And the way they play is they both expand
and they blindly send their entire army
to the other guy's expansion.
Like, they're 100% sure it's there.
But in my games, like, I once did that
there's no expansion, I just die, you know. So it's kind of hard to copy it like that, yeah.
That makes sense. What are your goals in Warcraft 3?
Well, I wanted to get minimum 1600 before I wrap up this first arc, but I think I can probably do
better than that as well. So I don't know, I guess an ambitious goal is 1700 in the next
Let's say 70 games or so and then 16 on it would be great as well.
Are you also looking for another capstone achievement like a show match or mostly just MMR grants?
Show match would be fun, but I don't know if there's anyone shooting to play against.
It is fun to work towards something that's for sure.
The nearest your MMR from streamer verse non-warcraft 3 endemic scene was
16.17. But that's a while ago. That's a year ago. And he's focusing on learning
this other game right now. Age of Enverse 2, which you know about.
For a super secret tournament.
Super secret tournament that we keep hearing about it somehow.
That's crazy, right?
Okay, I watched him for a bit. I think that guy is I
Think he's mad talented because he already looked pretty good in a way when I saw him play. Yeah, it's his learning process is very good very
Organic, but I don't think I was well when he watches his own replay
He can easily watch it for 20 minutes and analyze a lot and when I watch my own way. I just see little people walk
Yeah, yeah, I
I don't do it enough in any game.
Oh.
Yeah, I don't really watch my own replay in Warcraft or A.O.E.
Yeah.
Okay, so I kind of know your goals.
I know some of your past influences and your process so far.
So let's go about fixing the biggest problems.
There will be a lot of beauty errors that we can clean up here and there, such as timing-based
stuff.
But I would like to focus with you on knowledge and decision making and timings, as those
will be harder to come by by yourself, whereas if you had an idle altar for 30 seconds,
you don't need me to tell you that it was bad that your mountain king is late.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And I thought since we didn't do coaching recently, I probably have like a million
things that are just like a small mistake or something, you know, that I just don't
know.
Yeah.
probably see a lot. Yeah, I also don't even know what I'm good at. It's like the
micro is often good, but I'm surprised that I'm 1500. And that is pretty good.
According to the stats on W3 Champions, your MMR currently puts you in the top
22%. But I suspect that the A, thanks for the rate. Hi, guys. I'm coaching you
thermal. He wasn't in the tournament because I feared he would be too good.
and his non-coaching MMR proves that would maybe be right,
victim of his own success.
But now he wants to take his MMR to 16 or even 1700.
And I always like coaching a good friend.
Anytime you want, let me know to some good risk.
But for now, let's continue with you thermal.
Your MMR is top 22% of W3 Champions, you thermal.
And W3 Champions is a much narrower player base
than Warcraft 3 Bnet.
It also has a higher peak because there's more pros playing here.
So I suspect your true ego is at least top 10% world now.
Okay, that's, that's acceptable.
That's acceptable.
But can get higher.
So I'm going to go ahead and look at your statistics right now.
You have 60% win rate against human.
Mirror is always easy for a new player that is talented and
hardworking because you can learn from your opponent.
So it's your best win rate.
Anytime a human beats you with something, you can just
copy in, whereas in the other matchups, you can't do the same
thing. Your lowest win rate is against Orc, that's 53%.
Yeah, theoretically, some of this is statistically not
relevant. When you truly study stats, but it's still
interesting that you have one seven against Oracle Hammerfall
in particular.
I did feature some maps the last time I streamed because my
chat told me too, maybe it's one of them. Okay, but you're, you're doing fine on against
other matchups. In fact, on hammerful. So it's just orc hammerful in particular, where
you struggle. Then it gets undead. It's your second best matchup at 59%. But you didn't.
Yeah. And then night of the middle at 55. You meet humans the most then orc, then elf,
undead. So based on it being your lowest win rate and the second most frequent, no, it's
the most frequent opponent in fact, orc, and your lowest win rate. That seems like the
focus area to begin with.
Yeah, orc, I, I suck against orc just straight up, like, if the game goes beyond, you know,
they don't, they're not dying to my first rifle attack, I always lose.
I also see a nice four minute loss against an arc. So if it goes beyond two minutes, you're already at risk.
Yeah. What was that game?
Oh, no, I was, yeah, I remember just R-Share running into my base and I died. It's just that.
I'm sure we'll have plenty of small habits that will help out. But first, we're going to approach this.
I don't know if you're old enough to have ever played Choose Your Own Adventure books.
books. Where if you decide to go on the spaceship to run away
from the aliens, turn to page 97. But if you decide to fight the
aliens turn to page 63, choose your own adventure, but I
guess games for price that that particular enjoyment,
entertainment now. So how about you tell me if you think you
would like to either fast expand against orc, or do like a
eight, nine minute elimination push, like focus on a very strong one-base push with fast tech.
There's three ways to play. One, fast expo, tier one. The second one is super fast tech into
mounting rifle emphasis. And the third one is a super strong attack with a delayed tech timing.
But you're going to like leave the economy devastated. Those are the three main ways to play
against Orc? Yeah, I mean, just based on my experience, expanding sounds like a terrible
idea, because I already died when I'm on one base. Okay, so make sense. I mean, just the
people that play Orc, I don't know, it's just how you're supposed to play it or aggressive
people play Orc, but they always attack, whether it's a blade master or a far share,
the other dude, the one that makes the fire serpent or whatever, they always attack.
Shadowhunter, you get Shadowhunter?
Yeah, yeah, good. I mean, that seems pretty weak honestly, but
no matter what they do, they always attack.
Yeah, so this is based on game theory.
Their options of passive power growth are worse than your options of passive power growth.
Okay, you have the ability to be greedier because you can power build your tunnel.
I'll give you a quick example. Orc expo takes 135 seconds. Human expo takes 210 seconds or something.
So it's much slower. But when you power build it with five peasants, human expo takes 53 seconds.
53 is of course, yeah, it's of course much better than 135 seconds. And it's a difference of 80
seconds. And you get 10 gold per second. So you get 800 gold more. Now the human expo does,
Because when you do it this way with five peasants, it will cost extra.
Have you noticed that?
Did you pay money?
Yeah.
So, it will cost you about 600 and 300.
I clicked my farm by accident with a second worker once and I couldn't make another farm
with a second worker.
Exactly.
The worst.
Oh, so it's 180 seconds for tunnels.
Someone said, okay, but still.
When you power build it will cost you like 650-350 instead of 400-200.
That's quite a lot.
But because you get 800 gold more than an orc would get based on how much earlier you get it, it's worth it.
And you have a much smaller window where you need to remain in the area to protect your town hall,
where someone could come in and cancel it.
Now, do you know about buildings taking more damage while they're under construction?
Yeah, yeah. It's a big one.
You can think of it as three times as much damage from ranged units.
Only from ranged?
Well, I can give you the nerd answer, or I can keep it simple and say,
rifles and headhunters do triple damage on unfinished buildings.
Okay.
It's an approximation. You want the nerd answer, or should we just move on?
Well, if it's important.
I think it could be important.
Finish Buildings have 45 armor, which takes 35% damage from piercing, and they also have
5 armor, which yields 6% EHP per armor against physical sources.
So he has 30% physical extra health because of the 5 armor, and he has 65% damage reduction
because he only takes 35.
So those two effects together are in effect against piercing.
when it's an unfinished building, it has none of that. It just takes true damage from everything,
100%. That's why you can think of it as like triple damage from headhunters when it's not
finished yet. So you only have the 5 armor. So against melee, it's only the 5 armor that
makes a difference. It's the 5 armor and the fact that melee does, I believe 70% total damage
instead of 35. So it's still less than 100. But you are correct, it's the probably melee does like
double damage on the links or close to it. So that's why Orc cannot do a tier one expand
generally and be happy about it because your version of heavy pressure tier one just runs
over it if you have eyes and scouts.
So, even if you were to push his main blindly with a good concerted Archmage 3 push, with
triple farm tech and 30 supply before you tech, like a lot of investment into tier 1,
even if you do that and he's fast expanding, he will just die at home.
So Orc doesn't like fast expanding, fact one, two, if you're both playing super greed, 15
Nexus 15 hatchery equivalent, or that changed of course because of legacy, but
brings up liberty logic. If you're both opening the equivalent of Nexus first,
or it is going to be further behind than human because human just recoups their
cost a lot faster.
Right.
So additionally, if you both creep, but you don't expand,
human still creeps 30 to 45 seconds faster into level three than orc.
and can leave because of the elemental or yeah yeah because of elemental and footman foot like militia have sorry because of elemental and militia
It's a particularly militia militia like footmen, but they're temporary footmen
So the more you lean on the sacrificing lumber income and delaying your tech the more you have creep
Explosion creep speed explosion
And so if I said I'm gonna do the fastest possible orc level three. I'll probably get it at
430 and
and I have to be on the camp that I'm finishing off.
Whereas, human can leave their final camp physically with the hero at 3.30,
and then they will reach level 3 with just Militia on a green camp in absence of the AM.
You won't even pick up the item, you won't even be there.
You're already on the way to where the Orc army is or the Orc base.
But you'll get to the... I did it before, actually.
You've tried this? Okay.
Yeah, seems pretty good.
you'll get to the orc base at or around or before minute four with level three and orc will be like
level two and a half and finishing off a camp somewhere that means that their main basis is
exposed and you get there significantly earlier and it's all thanks to melissa investment his tech
will be faster but you get your level three and if you have good items you use your mana well you
summon two big blue guys you start banging on burrows that is a potential win condition
So, all of this I explained to let you know that Orc must harass human oftentimes in order to stay on par and how well you deflect it will determine what the game state is.
Right.
Shall we look at a replay?
I can tell you my problem.
Okay, go ahead.
Yeah, so the problem I have against Orc is that like, ideally I play too farm fast tech,
that's what it feels like for me, that's like, you know, if I get into the rifle attack
fast and it feels good, but if I only have three footmen, I just, I just can't move out
of my base at all.
And then if it's far share in particular, I feel like I need to make a tower, which
than to laser my tech even more. And if it's Blade Master, I would have rather walled off
my base instead. But it kind of feels like I'm playing a bit of a guessing game and if
I choose the wrong one, I die. But the early games really feels really tough.
Okay, so you shared a couple of different problems. I'm going to share perspective.
You said if it's farce here, I can't leave my base when I only have three footmen. Also,
If it's Farseer, I need Arcane Tower.
And if it's Blade, I wish I walled off,
which implies that you don't wall off by default.
And of course, because you don't scout,
you also are unaware of which one it is.
So one thing, of course, that we can start fixing
is finding out which one it is.
Yeah.
The easy answer to the Farseer-Harransal peasants
is to just incorporate an Arcane Tower as part of your base.
you okay with always starting behind on greed by having a safety tower? I mean I
kind of think is what I have to do right even it doesn't feel good for the
build. Not necessarily your options are always arcane and leave your always arcane
and walloff. Walloff means safe versus blade, always arcane means safe versus
farce here and you will lose access to walking in the back of your own base
because you're walled off, you occasionally trap your hero or unit hilariously, and you
will lose access to the fastest possible take without arcane. That's the downside.
But you gain freedom of leaving your base and treating the whole map as your playground.
Now, let's say that's the easy answer. If you want the nuanced answer that involves scouting,
scouting can confirm which of five org variances opening is, and we'll then inform your follow
up decision. That's one part of nuance. Okay. You still there?
Yeah, yeah, sir. I was getting your stream up on my stream.
Did you still manage to hear or shall I repeat?
No, no, I heard you.
So the first part of the nuanced answer is scout, see the ORC variant, and then respond accordingly.
We deserve foodmen, right? Not a militia.
What's that?
With a foodman, right? Not a militia, you would scout.
Correct. Your opening is already horrible.
Okay, in many ways
Sorry, we have tough enough in the work I see with coaching language. That's actually I don't really like doing it
And I don't think you too
because of death
Yeah, yeah, I don't think you and I particularly like that kind of feedback
So why is your opening not optimal?
You do four militia pool, but you only have a two farm opening and that means
you're straddling the middle of a greedy two farm tech and actually being able
to power game the early game. You will see that when you have enough gold to
tech, you don't have enough lumber yet. You're close. You would have had to do a
force command and after you take up... I remember I was waiting for my 10 lumber here.
Part of the problem is you have a villager mining here, a peasant instead of one on this,
one on this, one on this, one on this, and then one on this, which is just better spread.
So the second part of a nuanced answer, let's say, let's do a recap for the moment that
you don't scout, or if you do, you don't understand what you see.
And you want to make a decision of an opener without knowing what your opponent's going
to do.
So let's say that you have, I'm going to go ahead and, well, yeah, I could take the
pen out, but you will have to deal with double audio, you have to mute the stream, that means
you won't hear the game anymore, but then you can see the pen.
So the chat wants to see the pen too.
So if you build this farm here instead, so we're offset by one, you leave it open, then
you can actually take your Archmage and Waterhound Metal and you just place it over here.
And what you're doing is essentially, you're getting all the benefits of a two farm tech,
But you're allowed to stand safely so that you don't get hit for free while dealing with
the wolves and being next to them with both your footman and militia and so on.
You then start an Arcane Tower in the back after tech so you got the full benefit of
the fast tech and then you go for the Arcane after but because you leave it open you can
stand here.
And this actually makes you safe enough against both Blade as well as Farseer.
And it is very normal in this build to do that with level 1.8 Archmage.
And to just deal with that, if you get two wolfgales you get your brilliance and if not
you just stay at level 1.
And the reason it's okay is because he's 1.1, you focus on zero losses and as little militia
pooling as possible.
And the fast tech is going to give you super fast mountain king which will be the end of
your defensive troubles because he could stay here the entire period from minute three all the way
till minute 540 or something. So you have to defend for two to three minutes. Your arcane tower
will finish by like four minutes maybe. That's when the arcane tower finishes and your mountain
king comes out and then it's time for you to start doing shit. That's one way to play but it
requires with the two farm tech that you leave your base open so that you can both run your
your AM to safety, as well as support your militia.
Okay, so that's, so option one is always arcane, always arcane
tower. Option two is open. This is all options for two farm
tech. If you want to do two farm, your goal is mountain king, three, and
thunder clap level two. That's that's the whole goal of the two farm tech. And you
want to cut as many costs as possible. No lumber mill, no arcane vault, like no
shop. We're not getting any of that. It's just farms, black
Smith, two to three footman max. And everything goes into the
fast stack and getting the MK out. And once MK comes out, you
take four to five militia, you creep something, and then you
creep the next thing you get level three, and then you go to
the, you go to the orc base. This is one time you don't care
about archmage levels. No, you know, I mean, you want level two.
But it's fine to actually make two or three, and in fact, if your AM does get level three, you may go Aura level two.
Yeah, that makes sense, because it's all about the claps and the bolts.
It should mostly be good against headhunters, right, if you go for a clap.
It's good against everything, because it has damage and attack rate and movement reduction.
And if you get your MK3 early enough, he just becomes a wincon, because Orc always pays money for their healing.
And so any damage you do, weakens them in the fight and will cost them money to recover.
So even if you do two claps in the middle of Crown Raider Walker and then you just disengage, that's already done economic damage.
So basically three play styles, we're going to ignore fast expand completely. There's
the fast tech and it has a very precise set of habits that if you deviate from them, you're
going to fall behind in some way. And then there's the like heavy tier one. Let's focus
for now on fast tech, since that's what we see here. What do you think? Yeah. That sounds
good. Okay. So I've kind of given you the blueprint for what it would look like. Now
see if you now let's see if we struggle in absence of applying that blueprint. So you've
lost one peasant. It's not great. Ideally, we shouldn't be losing any. And I don't, I
mean, like, I don't mean that that's like, to which backseat like try to kill everything
and lose nothing. But yeah, over summoning peasants into militia so that they get better
armor type and mount is important. You can't let peasants get hit. That means if you see
the wolves over here, you already need to start making militia. And especially any that
have any damage taken on them at all, they need to immediately become militia. But it
will really help a lot of AM is here because it's the difference between getting like three
approach hits and three exit hits, or you get one, two hits, and then they go out of
range. That's why it needs to be open. Okay. Okay. So we're down one peasant. It's not
a disaster yet, but it does cost us a bit. So here what you're doing is absolutely correct.
You're staying on him. The moment those headhunters woke up, you could pull back your foot man.
If you're going to take three hits while doing one hit on the wolf, there's like a
lot of micro stuff happening where you want to engage with him, but you don't want to
get free hits. And if you're good, yeah, it's correct to focus wolves whenever they're
the nearest thing. So I think what you're doing is correct. You also correctly prioritized
blacksmith over farm. Just damaging headhunter a bit. This looks nice getting some hits on
farce here. It's good to hear you have an amazing opportunity to set at least your
footman on the headhunter because of damage types 150% you're that oh yeah
it goes medium yeah yeah and it's not bad not bad another farm is good you're
going back cuz you saw him
It's a little lucky, should have pulled another peasant to finish it, okay?
I was just waiting to cancel it actually, you know?
Yeah, try to deny your own units if they're gonna die.
I've never done it yet, it's very unnatural to me.
When I watched the Yamato against Hera and I saw it do like four times in a row, I was
like what the hell is and I have never done it I think
in a single time. Let's see rifle, mount king, good um yeah here we see the problem
so basically what problem one you lost peasants problem two
uh you're mining really far so it's the same concept of course as an age of
empires it's really important to get the nearby trees
they're gonna trip over each other if you have any attention for it
fix that because now we can't really make arcane sanctum yet okay there it is
power built is correct remaking a peasant is correct maybe even two farm
can make farm now this is nice all right so when mountain king is five seconds
out we grab 45 militia and we pull into a fat orange camp can be your expansion
or the Murkamp. And we're gonna use some solo creeping that doesn't involve Archmage.
There is an alternative...
Are you a flap first or a bolt first?
A bolt first, bolt first.
Okay, thank you.
There's two things that this build wants to do with Mounted King coming out.
If you are following someone with AM, footies, and even your first one or two rifles, those
rifles should be completely safe unless you get absolutely mugged by micro. Speed scroll,
Wolf block, whatever, but those rifles should be able to make their way home without dying.
So showing up with rifle and delaying Farsie or TC creeping until Mantican comes out is
correct.
And if you notice that you're kiting someone away with you in some direction, he's following
you, but you keep contact, and you know that you're playing a high contact game, it is
perfectly fine to pull your Mantican to try and score three kills.
Your storm bolts will go on the lowest hanging fruit.
So not a full HP grant, not a hero, but any heads on tears.
Bolt, kill, bolt, kill, bolt, kill, and then walk back when you're out of mana.
Then you start your creeping arc and you'll come back in 3 minutes.
I definitely bolt heroes too often.
Yes, I saw that in your game.
They basically never bolt a hero, it's always the free unit.
I'm always trying to be cool in bolting a hero and surrounding it.
It's kind of my move.
signature move. The reason I don't like your mountain king move out is because you are
looking for him, but you're not sure if you're going to find him. So this would have been
an angle where you start creeping, because you are being left alone, and you're gambling
where he is. At lower level, there's a lot of central movement from base to base. This
line gets used a lot at low level. But as you get higher, people will spend more time
going to the sides, where it's much harder to find them. So for instance, if I were to say,
what is optimal for him, I would say he should be doing the merc camp or the expansion. Him walking
in the middle here, that makes no sense, because these green camps are not worth the walk for an
army of this power. And the same is true for you. There's nothing here for you. This is too hard.
this is too easy if it was still up, this is too easy, too weak.
And so if you guys are going to meet it's because, and I say this with love, you're both bad.
Yeah, I believe it.
And so the reason why I walked through the middle is usually what tends to happen is that either
I find them and I get to fight, or I walk to their base and kill a building that's making.
That happens very often, like arching vault, Taren building, just anything, that happens a lot.
So that fits a lot for the delayed tech, one base. If you do AM3 rush, then you do want to play a playstyle like that.
That focuses, because you get your AM3 goal very early and then you want to get as much use out of it as possible.
possible. So it's okay to do a relentless assault for four minutes. Also, because your
mountain king is minutes later. And so your AM has to find a hobby that's worth it. And
creeping from three to 3.7 ain't that worth it. But if you can cancel totem three times
to kill a burl and deny mining, very worth it. But because your mountain king is out
already, you have to focus on your own wind condition rather than disrupting.
This camp is too small, we need to pull Militia, your lumber is racking up which means we
need creeping acceleration.
You overmade peasants due to the lumber, I have to say.
Like 11 or something is it?
Yeah 11 yes.
The warlord has reduced stun time.
you need to bolt the priest to prevent as many inner fires as possible do you
know what the inner fire buff does is it the same as the human spell yes do you
know what that does
tax be maybe 10% damage and 5 armor which is 30 effective physical health 30%
okay I didn't know that I thought it was just healing oh yeah no it's it's very
good it's like two and a half armor upgrades and almost one armor almost one attack upgrade
okay so basically you can think of it as better than three attack and armor upgrades
if you put inner fire on someone and that's what you're letting it's crazy it's crazy right
and that's what that priest gives to the creep so usually you walk up you do a bolt before you
aggro so that he casts zero inner fire or you attack him and start hitting the
priest he will cast one and then you you bolted before you get sick as a second
inner fire
okay so here you're gonna think of killing the TC you probably didn't click
item though denying Anki is okay if TC was half life you might still bolt TC
that would be wrong here the goal is to kill four I definitely was no shot I
wouldn't let's see if he recognizes the uncle
did you know that thing well I didn't see it I just stuck around I think yeah
it would you say that bowl is a mistake because I didn't have other targets but
I wasn't gonna kill it so that's kind of a waste of mana right I would say you
should have killed it because you had slow but you have to manual slow if he
this is the funny thing if you attack move everyone will auto cast but they
will do it according to internal logic and slow only gets cast on people that
are agguring you so if he's walking away and you're moving with a move
sort oh they won't slow him to have to do it manually all right I didn't know that
it's only the moment he hits something that belongs to you or wants to that they
cast love. Can I slow if you right click? Or do you have to? No, you have to press the
hotkey. Okay. The clap here was not amazing. You were hoping to kill him off. But usually
in worker 3 we try to save mana for level 2 spells. So for instance if you're... I know
with the elementals. I spawned him too fast.
This is interesting. So he's doing a Tyler build actually. Doctors in Torrance.
This is very nice. You know about Healsoft cancelling.
Yeah, that's what I wanted to do.
Quick look at the home. You're switching to double sanctum. Is this something you heard from Death Note Coaching Yamato?
No, I
Know I think you actually told me that if the first year TC get too high level that you don't want the rifles anymore
Oh, yeah, yeah, so
The way I was kind of playing in Zorg these days is just to go for the 50 supply push and then just try to not make rifles anymore
Okay, okay, not a not about have it
Ironically incorrect here because he's making tarantz
which uh okay rifles are good against those well thing is no timing is good
against them so going up against five torrents with bloodluster he awards is
gonna be almost impossible for both breakers and rifles but if you had a
60 population army or a push endowed by an arcane vault or as mountain king three
which it should have been by this time then yeah then that would be the win
and you would just need to churn out mincemeat right now, not undercut.
Okay.
Just churning out trash.
More rifles and more sorceresses maybe? Or priests?
Anything.
Mostly rifles, three priests with dispell, maybe one or two sorceresses to attack upgrades.
Don't need armor.
Because basically the way that you can counterplay torrents is by making sure that pulverize doesn't hit many things.
It has a one hot zone. Let's say if he has to pulverize upgrades, which I think he doesn't yeah
He doesn't have it yet. They do like 20 damage ALE
Which is unupgradable with mini-pulve and then it's 60 with with maxi-pulve, which costs
100 slash 225 and
Okay, they will pulverize in an area around their target with a bulls eye hot zone. What's that?
It's like a stomp like they just
do it where they are and like slightly around them I think it's around the
target they hit so also it's like a click and cast or however you call it no
it's a passive endowment like critical strike okay yeah it has a chance to
proc so the way you play against that is to make sure that they're hitting
mountain king archmage or water elemental or a single rifle and just not
just splitting like you would against Bainlings. If he has Taran here, Taran here,
Taran here, and you don't move then you will get annihilated. Three Tarans is a
magical number with pulverize for massive destruction, but one or two Tarans
will just get taken out by rifles if all other things are okay. Someone said
pulverize is around the Taran itself? Okay. I would also target the sorceresses on
Taris have magic resistance these days, they got buffed, which means they take reduced
effect from all CC sources including Sorceress, Slow, Thunder Clap and Stormbolt.
So they're not even amazing Stormbolt or Slow targets, you still want to slow them though,
just like you would slow a hero, definitely absolutely want to slow them.
Slow and headhunter much worse, so probably you need one Sorceress usually that's not
on autogast so that you'll always have slow for key targets for manual.
Target rifles on walkers, they have 400 range and rifles are 600 so you'll always be able
to hit them when he's hitting anything and then we want to kite back, in this case I
I would kite back and just hit the torrent.
That's a free kill.
And yeah, I guess you're doing like a, I see, I see how maybe
like my advice has mistreated your game flow, because the
money in the bank like 50 food save up, you're doing a lot of
good concepts, like switch to arcane, so you guess high level
heroes, you're saving up on 50, which is the maximum amount
money you can get you're doing a push at before minute 10. These are all good habits, but they're
all wrongly put together, like an abomination with three ghastly arms sticking out of each other.
Okay, so I've seen enough for now. The push isn't so good, of course, but I will first show you
the flow and then you can try it for yourself. Okay, I'll just overcommit everything I'm doing.
it'll be like a eight minute demonstration. Okay.
Okay. Let's go on the last one. I'm very curious about the the mountain king militia pool that
you said. I haven't actually seen that move. Okay. Yeah. It's a new one for me.
Oops.
All right. So we're gonna make the altar normally. Sorry, I have to restart. Make the altar in the
direction of where you're going to pull Melissa, the area you're going to creep.
So because we're going this way, we want the altar on that side.
It takes roughly equally long to go from here to here or here to here, and it will save
you time.
The next person that comes out is going to start a farm for two seconds and then make
a barracks.
And the next person that comes out continues to farm.
we have time so I can say that there are four areas a unit can spawn out of a
building it's the four corners and it will spawn out of the corner that is
closest to the rally point that you set okay so if I set it here it's this corner
and if I set it here it's this corner
okay and if that yeah I started getting really careful with the altar rallies
because sometimes I thought I rallied it fine when I get stuck on a tree and it's stuck in my
base so I like I really exaggeratedly rallied like in an open area like it's in the camp.
No that's good that's good that's good so if the area is blocked even a little whatever the area is
and it's roughly at the corner diagonal to the building then it will spawn to the nearest open
location counterclockwise. So if I rally here and this area is blocked which it is, it's not
going to get stuck because it's going to go counterclockwise. So I think I can actually
put the rally here to prove it, to prove my point. It's a little scary.
Because look it is corner blocked that means heroes cannot pass that area.
Yeah, but I want to prove my theory very specifically that one square yeah any diagonal
block is it's bad so I'm not gonna show I'm not gonna do like heavy militia creeping
because I'm doing the two farm tech okay and I can scout but we're not worried about
scouting it so I'm not gonna scouting here I'm just gonna prepare here eight peasants
in total only two farms one opening here and a very gutsy rally that could see me stuck
yeah if my physics are wrong so you're going for the green camp you only want to pull three
workers correct pull before the hero comes out science works again okay here there's
There's two deviations. One, the way that I think it was Death Note coaching Yamato,
he goes for the nine peasants on the wood, which means you have this ugly supply count
of 23 out of 24. But the way that I saw the build before was from Chimiko, which is a
Korean human player that played this build a lot, and he's similarly rated as Death Note,
sometimes higher, sometimes lower. He goes with the eight peasants on wood, which allows
you to crank out a third footman. Sorry, it was high Lua. High Lua actually, who's American.
So we should go with the Korean. But it is okay to, it is okay to make a ninth peasant
if you routinely experience delay in your lumber. So the choice for you is you thermal
third footman or ninth peasant on wood. Right. So I'll do the third footman variant. My
My suggestion is queue up the footman and if you realize you can cancel it in tech because
of a forced drop off, then you cancel it in tech because it's all about tech speed.
We're going to skip this because he has poison.
We can take this if we're not harassed, but most likely to be fair, we're probably getting
harassed now by a farce here.
after this we'll already know he's gonna be in our main and so I'm gonna simulate
now what it's like to defend that means I cannot make my blacksmith in front
blacksmith in front is fine because it's a chunky building for very cheap but at
this point I'm already getting assaulted so I'm gonna go here sound and elemental
and I'm gonna defend against wolves I'm hitting wolves now all the time
anyone that gets attacked because of militia well I'm hitting walls one
green cams really enough well if we're getting harassed right now it's really
enough for now we desperately want level 2 level 2 is a huge desire well if we
can't we can't make two farms at the same time while you're waiting for black
Smith we want to not make lumber mill we don't want to make arcane vaults we're
all about staying on him but also not taking damage economically or otherwise.
And any damage we take, even if our archmage was like really really low,
we would still wait for our first priest out of Arcane Sanctum. We would not like to build a
vault and a regen scroll because we want a rifle max. That's interesting.
Basically the more items I bought the better I got for the most part.
The better results you got?
Yeah, but here we go.
For the first 100 games, I barely used items at all.
You know, Priest will heal me, Mana will regen.
My units are fast enough.
Inval Potioner for people that get micro.
Yeah, okay.
I see that. I have such stubbornness as well sometimes.
In Age of Empires too right now.
For this camp, the Priest Level 4 actually prefers healing allies over himself.
It's like what you're supposed to do in an airplane if someone else needs oxygen.
You do them first.
Sorry, you do yourself first. Actually, it's the opposite of the airplane.
Okay, let's ignore the airplane metaphor.
He prefers healing allies over himself, and he will heal roughly every one, one and a half seconds for 25.
so if you don't hurt his friends he will heal himself for 25 over and over but
if you hurt his friends with a DPS that's lower than the 25 let's say you
do five damage every two seconds and he will still heal that person and so the
five damage you're doing on this friend is essentially worth 20 damage on him
you know what I mean yeah yeah so if you have like a sense a low attack unit
Like a footman you should attack
At both a little bit at least until he's done healing them and then he will die faster
And in this game it's always about killing the priest fast because he heals and buffs
Is that all priests through that camp?
All priests heal for 25 I think and generally you should all I mean
Do they all prefer the healing the ally? Yes, does that apply for every camp? Okay? Yeah
Okay, so we got our level 2, we found a replenishment potion.
These are the map control camps on Master Refuge, because they give replenishment and
illusion.
Okay, we got this, we got this, two peasants on this, now we go a long rifle upgrade once
we have the lumber.
It's not realistic that we have lumber, because actually if we kept getting harassed, we had
to make an arcane tower yeah so we don't actually have the lumber for it
and that would have been after the tech right the tower yes immediately after
while you're getting harassed while you're pulling militant yeah so now you
see why Hylua cancels nine peasants because we can never get range of
crit though maybe he's right he says the third footman doesn't do enough extra
Because they just all get bullied by headhunters anyway.
You're never winning a straight up fight.
So whether you have two or three, it doesn't really move the needle all that much.
Yeah, I mean for me it sounds logical to make the third footman because you're kind of stuck
in your base and you want at least something, right?
We have to choose.
It's either the third footman or the ninth president.
Yeah, exactly.
So here we open with a bolt on the priest so that he delays his inner fire before we
aggro.
And then we move all the normal attack damage to attack the priest as fast as possible.
Creep without AM, you need 1200 range distance which is a little bit more than mortar team
range.
Yeah.
That's crazy that you're doing the 4 level 3 on the archmage by the way, I wouldn't
expected that yeah because this time a m3 is not our wincon two priests and then
this bell
what do you use this more for against orc wolves and spirit link and just in case
they find the book of the dead. Oh yeah, book of XP. I used it once in a human mirror and
I was like oh I give me six extra years, I disappeared instantly and so one of my chest
is book of XP. That's pretty perfect. So when you see that you're gonna get MK3 even without
moving out so you can stay together stay together safer and you create you create
faster as well safer because your aim doesn't get caught
so with this you are actually planning to go over 50 right yes yes so level 2
level 2 clap. Now all we need is invul and heal scroll. We do want am level up now, we
would take brilliance. We'll go for another priest, 3 priests before sorceresses on 50
and we take militia like three to four okay and they're gonna make first arcane vaults so you
can spawn mana pots heal pots regen scroll clarity those four items okay all the health basically
the overtime and the instant help and mana the overtime doesn't sound like it will be that good
because you're gonna be constant battle because you're gonna pull back yeah
they actually have to wait yeah and now we're gonna go over I'm gonna make my
first source arrest target down the snakes they give exp and whatnot
I forgot to attack a parade for rifles it's worth it don't think that because I
didn't get it, it's not worth it, so four claps, you can get it before going over 50 right, yeah you can get it before over it, exactly
we've got four claps but now we're out of mana and if we're dropping low we would
just TP out and go again but if we are able to keep a foothold and we're able
to make shop then we're gonna get mana from that, we're gonna pull back and
So let's say that he's healing, he's saving a hero. You get some focus on TC's, TC's running away.
You know, get the cancel on the TC, pull back, you're gonna make an Arcane hold because it's like your foothold.
Regen's scroll, clarity, to heal everything and stay back.
Sorceress comes in, turn off other casts so we can cast some things that matter.
Arcane tower, auto repair, all those things.
Just the healing cancel if you attack or only if you get hit.
If you get hit.
Or any damage taken.
Or if you get ensnared.
Which is no damage, but that's what counts.
So it's kind of acceptable to fight with your rifles even if you have the healing throw for fear.
Yes, exactly.
Not that I get hit as much.
Exactly.
After someone's choprafe chain lightning you, and everything is half-life, if you pop a regen scroll there,
That's a perfectly fine mid-combat endowment. It's also an APM brain drain for him.
Okay, yeah.
And so anytime needed, you go back for Heal Pulse, Monopulse, and that's kind of the push.
At 7.20, the Heal School Inval becomes available. If you can get your MK to 3 by 7.20,
which I was only able to do because I militia crept this, solo MK, solo MK, shared.
and then I got the 720 in will you scroll that's an insane time that's
basically like impossible to lose but it's never gonna go that way of course
but yeah that's your goal okay yeah so one question because my my chat was
arguing about it last time they were really split on which hero should have
the intelligence items because I thought it was just archmage because it's an
intelligence hero why why does he want it because he's it I guess it gets more
damage or yes but I just I just read that items with the they call it the
primary attributes yeah attribute threats could have those items but
mountain king likes mana and he needs mana and mountain king is goaded but
and maybe Mountaking gets the int, right?
And my chat couldn't figure it out.
To me, it sounded logical that Mountaking would get them
in the end, but I'm curious.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, with this build, 100%.
And in 90% of the cases, you probably
want the mana on the Mountaking.
But it is not terrible to have Rope of the Magi on Archmage,
because sometimes water elementals might be your wincon.
Think about it.
If you have AM3, his abilities are worth a lot more, and if you have Manti King 1, then you will get a 4th bolt out of him if you have the Rope of the Magi and a 5th, but for the first 3 bolts, nothing changed.
But if the Archmage had the Rope of the Magi, you would have had 6th bonus damage per auto attack, and you would have had another water elemental earlier.
But you only get the fourth and the fifth bolt out of a level 1 MK with the rope of the Magi.
And the walking upright homo sapien answer is, is that every time you cast the bolt or a knapp, you give it to him for a bit.
Then he casts.
Oh god.
That's too much.
Another thing is like, if they're both out of mana and you've done everything whoever it was on, make sure it's on the AM afterwards.
that he can make use of the passive damage when both are spent anyway.
But the simple answer is, whoever's skills are more important, it should go on them.
And usually that's Mounted King.
Okay, and the damage that Archmage gets is not that big of a deal?
It is a big deal.
But maybe not as big as both level 2 or clap level 2.
Yeah, I feel like in a lot of the games I win, Archmage is kind of my MVP, and a lot of the time is the basic attack somehow, because I just kind of, it feels like I out-target fire them or something, and then I get to kite into the hero with Archmage and just kind of bully them around.
Yup.
The damage actually feels quite nice on Archmage. Just like having claws on Archmage feels amazing to me.
Yeah, it's funny because I was playing work at three for like two years already way back when when I was two years into my career
I didn't really rate damage items on anyone except melee agility
And then I once heard one of my human competitors say that he just felt amazing when he finds gloves mantel claws and
That he just used it like a machine gun and I didn't realize until then of course
I noticed a difference, but I didn't realize how coveted it was
for those humans to to find us and then use their AM to put out so much
knowledge. Yeah it feels amazing it's like the early game is like the best
thing I have go for me just the arg mage target fire and micro. We should find
an orc to play with. So we can do some targeted practice. Are there any orcs up
up to 1800 elo in chat
we have 1400
we have 1480, we have 1500, okay
Starkey
1500 is okay
Starkey, we can go with you
let's go on W3 chat
I'm 800, I'll take that one
let me run to the bathroom real quick
alright
Starkey? Starkey, you're not that 16 year old German right? That's Sharky I think.
Here's someone else, you're just Starkey.
Okay, go ahead and join Uthermoul1, but only Starkey please. The rest can just
watch on stream. He's a Lithuanian. Okay, Starkey, while I still have you, of course,
please go ahead and turn off the stream momentarily while we're in the game. If you could just
play whatever you normally do, without remembering what you thermals can do, of course. Try not
to remember that. So you're going to open Farsier, and yeah, not your Farsier blade
Torn Shift in build. Actually, you only made blade third because the human went Tier 3,
didn't you and went Griffin so you went blade third that's sick cool that you know that
build actually it looks like wait is this are you doing this against non-griffen play
blade third oh you're doing it against pallor rifle the way that I did like half a year
ago
Yes, well I learned it from Hitman.
Oh, okay.
Hitman's your hero, huh?
He is pretty cool.
And I did say the way that I did,
but I also got it from Hitman.
Oh, you're doing my build.
Hey, cool, cool.
It's a little derivative,
but I guess I am rather inspiring.
Oh yeah, we both got it from Hitman.
That's true.
Oh, hi.
What do you get from Hitman?
Nothing, nothing.
I just, I checked what your opponent does, game name you Thermal and Dubchamps.
I checked the build of your opponent, I was like, oh my god, he's doing my build.
But he says, no, he got it from him.
It wasn't your build?
No, he got it from Hitman.
Then I remembered, oh yeah, I got it from Hitman too.
Damn.
Hitman is one of the best orcs, right?
Yeah.
It actually makes sense.
remember what he was like in Starcraft? Not really, do you? Yeah, he was like, he only
did one or two baselines like, and like, even in matchups where he shouldn't do it. Yeah,
once he makes his own, he looked at the laser. He looked at the laser in the run of 32 and
WCN by doing four gates against Zerg in 2015, which is just, which is possible. Yeah, but
Yeah, but he did it.
He's micro's good.
And then he just forfeited the next round.
I think he just wanted to go to school or whatever.
He still likes that even now.
He plays generational aura.
He plays for passion.
He reminds me of like a max packs that also doesn't compete online.
Very good, mysterious, different, doesn't compete much.
Mainly plays for the love of the game.
Max packs does compete a lot though.
just online. Right. No, but that's what I'm saying. Imagine
if Max Wax also did it completely online, but he was like a
ladder terror. That's it, man. Yeah, okay, fair enough.
All right, I'm good to go. Yeah, go ahead and do your best
rendition of what I just showed. I recommend upon feeling it
9% better with two footmen. 2324. You take after tech, you
immediately rush to get arcane if you're under pressure, then
blacksmith, then two farms.
This is a change for us as a blade master, by the way, like, if
it's blade, simply make a third farm to do a full wall off, and
go into the great, great outdoors, you go make some tick
drug reels on the other side of the world. Right? Right. Your
mistake would be to try and fight blade, you cannot beat blade
with two foot moon, even if he's alone, and it will never be
worth it. So what you should do against blade master is to
simply never get hit. And if you can't walk home, then don't walk home. Just treat the
entire map as your playground. Because if you have a full wall off, he can't get inside.
It means peasants are safe. So it's you're playing a three minute running game until
mountain king comes out. All you got to do is pick up a boots and a dust, give it to
your mountain king later. And then with dust, you can reveal wind walk and with boots on
the MK that first helps your aim to stay alive, then give it to MK, you can follow things
can kill them. Right, okay. Yeah, and you will try to get level two at some point, but
it'll be after you lose sight of the blade master. Okay, we're gonna need you to take
your human. Oh, yeah.
Getting a little nervous, actually. Oh, cool.
That link is scary, man. Like, it's undead. I feel like I'm kind of chilly for a first
couple of minutes, you know, for work, I'm always just like,
when are they coming?
Instant pressure.
Yeah, I won't do any life coaching. I just want to see you
own natural. So I'll talk to you after.
Sure, sure, sure.
Joachim.
Alright, Chad, let's see how he does.
He's only seen it in demonstration against AI.
He has not seen it against a real player.
If you thermal struggles this time, I will try to show how to do it instead.
Starkly will destroy him.
Yeah, you guys, type one.
Did I mute myself?
Oh, sorry, am I talking to you?
Yeah, okay.
You know what, it's funny because I did hit the mute button and I got a weird pop-up in
Discord that says, do you allow Stream Deck to authorize to connect with your Discord?
And I guess there is permissions it always had it which means it didn't work. Sorry about that
It's Starky gonna kick this stupid guy's ass or not
Sorry put your prediction in the tent
Oh everyone is voting for Starky. Oh, sorry. I'm gonna try to mute again. If you don't hear me anymore. It'll be a success
Okay, that's that's that's and you don't have to be muted. I can just definitely
Okay, okay, that sounds nice.
Alright, I'm gonna defend.
Uh, wow, awkward, guys, awkward as shit.
Type 1 if you think your thermal sucks and it's gonna lose to our god and save your
Starchy.
Type 2 if you think that your thermal's gonna own.
One, three, five, two, Starko and this fool.
Let's see how this goes. Thermals opening, looks just fine.
Undefined, so we can hear his thoughts. Okay, let's see.
Let's see if he's talking. We're undefined now.
He's not talking, he's focused.
Population 22, he should queue up one more peasant to get to 23 population.
And he does. He should pull Militia now at 3 seconds left.
left so it's a little late. There it is. Just a little late. Which means one would get ensnared.
There's his final villager. Sending in water alley first. This all looked fine. He's getting
ensnared in range with the militia so that's lucky for him. Lucky for you. Okay, peasant
spread looks pretty good. There's the tech. He should kill his own water elemental if
it doesn't die okay here you can just go inside he needs to make a scout tower now
crappy item was it kind of it's kind of crappy yeah one person almost got stuck
he gets someone more militia over here he's trying to do it but he got stuck
or at least he got stuck trying to return lumber they make you did forget the
tower tower okay not too bad not too bad it's coming targeting wolves he did
over chase a bit so now aim is getting damaged for MK later or was it that was
protection right that I got here he shouldn't be kiting and hitting with
am he needs to run that's good micro very very bad am control very very bad
am control horrible he shouldn't listen if he can't go home he must go to
to Africa. Blacksmith is good. Now he needs two quick double farms. The problem with what
he's doing, if Hedantis were here and they took down the tower and he's not here, he
can't defend because the enemy orc can form a wedge.
I really need to be inside with my militia problem.
Exactly, exactly. Keep in mind, he doesn't hear me, right? It's just his thoughts. But
the rest looks good. So now because he lost contact, he should go somewhere and also because
tower is almost done he's allowed to leave so now he should go somewhere either
to mess with where everything's orc is I want to go out because I don't see him
or to creep something himself the tower stop no no it's almost done that's how
it looks with scaffolding
The blacksmith is almost done, so I was about to ask what spells, what ability the Marseille
has, the minus trophy a little bit.
The arcane is done, the blacksmith is a little late but it's fine, so you can make one rifle,
onto King and then sanctum. He has space for sanctum here.
He's not sanctum but uh...
He doesn't know.
I can get it out here.
Yeah, you can. Here.
Oh, he's gonna make it here. He doesn't know.
He doesn't see the 4x4 he has here.
Okay rifles, farms, looks good.
So in this case, his Montaking is so early that if Farseer stays around, he should aim for a militia.
A little early action for that.
He should aim for a militia. Is he nine peasants? Yes, he's nine peasants.
I think Hylou is correct. Nine peasants is better than three footmen.
Because the third footmen would have done nothing for him in this situation.
So now he needs to get his militia ready, because Mt. King is almost done.
Let's see if he does a 5-militia pull to creep the markup.
Rifles are coming out.
Very bad delay for Mt. King and militia.
He's losing crucial time.
It's a race.
Here he should get us around.
amazing surround amazing surround it was so clean
they still need to pull Militia that was very well done
holy shit for his level anyway for him
can I kill this now? yes take it probably right
but you need Militia oh wait it was
oh my god it's horrible he's not pulling Militia
this is horrible
tanking arcmage?
tanking rifle on golem is horrible too
there you go
why are you derping?
not pulling militias very bad here
it's a bad camp by me
it's correct to keep am part of the fight
but not correct to take the rock golem down
oh i should have moved my arcmage actually
you do want brilliance
but
He should get level 2 on the troll and then get the golem alone with the monty king.
Good items.
He's getting his upgrades.
Okay, nice, nice, nice.
What about the arc magi?
What's he should do now?
He's in the hallucination now?
Creep now.
Oh, he's a real guy.
He's actually in Militia creep enemy shop now.
Let's see.
No, it's not right now. I think I'm way too much damage.
No way.
He's losing a lot of time.
I was level 3 by this time, he's level 2.
Of course, I was not playing a real opponent.
Also, I'm not 1500 elo.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is definitely Matic'ing solo angle.
He's getting his attack upgrade.
Yep.
Some militia.
It's crazy he's completely forgot about splitting AM away because he's worried about other things or something.
Wow, he's getting all intelligence insane.
If he picks it up.
So the problem is, he's mounting his level 2 instead of 3.
I can't stress enough how important that is, but I will stress it.
This is still not a horrible attack, but it just makes Thunder Clap so weak at the moment.
I've got an item.
You can dispell speed scroll too and wolves I still think he looks okay here
Oh I don't have my cap yet
I would have bolted that, only bolted Tarn if you get a kill
He needs to dispell image and wolves Let's see if this is such a fat dispell
I haven't played second or never seen it before in my life.
Hitman, baby.
What the hell's blade second?
He's macroing to go over.
I still think he looks okay.
But he doesn't need to dispel.
He forgot about dispel.
Honestly, it's a toss up.
It's very hard to tell who's going to win.
Here he should be cancelling Heelsalves and Clarities.
The opponents showed they have 0 CC outside of Orb.
So when you disengage, if you're not cancelling shit against Orc, that's very bad.
That's how they come back.
Oh, he makes pressure instead, I think.
Whoa.
Do their stars his GG?
Well, I would win.
I could camp in the meantime, maybe.
Too many priests for sure.
I have to go over.
51 pop.
Creeping this is pretty cool, he's also got good defensive position.
He's forcing the Orc to come out.
Oh.
The Orc is now creepjacking himself.
But he's giving too much space so he allowed Orc to move past the creep camp.
There's actually such a coachful game.
It's gonna be really nice to go over the replay with him.
It's GG for you.
I think hitting blade here is also not horrible.
Blade master is freaking annoying.
Like he's about half-
I don't know if this spell is useful here actually.
It's about half survivability compared to tauren and he does more damage.
have milk overrides. Oh no, they do.
Uh, for instance, Rope of the Magi on AM would have done so much more here.
Oh, horrible store gold!
Horrible store gold! That was so bad.
That works, doesn't it?
I always get confused on which one I need dust for and which one I need
the dispel for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys are completely right.
So they do desperate.
It's time for desperation mode.
Pulling more malicious good. He is losing now, for sure. It's
because he attacked with MK2, and he didn't cancel solve and
everything else. A little bit of everything else.
Here, the correct micro would be to kill two grunts so that you can get MK level up, and
of course dispel wolves and image.
He would have already been three if he knew about the spelling image.
So he's focusing a grunt, stormboat level one, targeting blade, which he should have
done a long time ago because the blade never had to sustain to stay alive the
militia doing so much and look two tarnes are hitting man taking he's actually
winning now
block him I hear you should be buying mana pots and my peasants baby he's
still winning chat he just needs to buy a heal pot mana pot clarity snakes is
is bad. Oh, he canceled Clarity. Holy shit, his awareness here was insane. He saw the
Clarity running on the Shadow. It's very good. Stormboard level one. Why is the man taking
3. You just spelled Miribus? Yeah, very good. Regen scroll.
Oh my god. Is he struggling with patron? There's the tower. He's a good student. He
copied he's doing much worse than the orc yet I'm going right away well that's
because the orc also is making other mistakes like he's still making grunts
even though he already has tolerance but skill choice of snakes instead of hacks
yeah he did some things better than orc he got the hillscore in robot he played
the time I do oh god is it right
where's his walkers at you can't you can't go walkers if you go one totem
torrent against rifle maybe one more great energy and no angle enough
nice of him to allow torrent to stand in the middle he didn't cast clap for a
Wow a single target flap. Oh no it doesn't fit. Wow. AM AM AM. Is he gonna TP?
Ah shit. Still though. He's also missing second attack upgrade.
I think he's one guys. His enemy is 33 pop. He did a tactical no TP move on AM.
That means he's gonna run out of mana. He's remaking. He's at 51 pop. At 51 you should
always kill a peasant. I'm so out of mana bruh.
bruh
flappers
very risky positioning on the montyking
I don't have a single dish though
That's crazy cuz I am died, huh?
Good good micro let this montyking get to the back
Minus two rifles
A bolted full HP turret? It's not good man!
The bolts are flying so randomly.
I thought it was pretty much full anyway.
Actually, it looks like losing AM ain't that good because you lose brilliance.
Maybe he should have remade it from the tavern.
And he should be cancelling these clarities.
It could still go either way, but I feel like I'm favoring...
camper actually I think it is right I'm favoring work again in this match because
Orc is uh oh yes he put lightning orb on the shadow what's our expose to do to
break the siege here I think he's doing fine he needs tolerance he'll solve
clarity demo with burning oils okay too I like his choices it's more losses yo thank
Thank you for the setup smuggler.
He should be targeting Strupple.
And finally came back.
What the hell is that?
I can't.
It was so funny.
What is that?
He just killed it.
It was so bad. It did nothing.
Wait, I said I liked the demo and it just did nothing.
Arcane tower retarget on the hero.
He's down in supply and he lost.
I got a mana I need to make more freeze.
He just lost.
Heee!
Let me lift please.
I got you dude.
Oh close one though actually.
Yeah, GD.
Oh, close one though, actually.
Very close and very good coachable game.
Yeah, I made a lot of mistakes.
I could see it.
But you also did a lot of things right.
I mean, the strat felt good if it was close
when I felt like I kind of played like crap
and that's pretty good, I think.
Yeah, exactly.
I forgot my level ups on both heroes for quite a while.
I'm sharing your replay perspective.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Do you have it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Melissa, we're a few seconds late.
You should pull them when AM is three seconds left.
Yep.
And I should have stayed in my base a bit more, right, and defended the militia.
Yes.
Best format I have ever watched.
Getting to meet the contestants as my casters was awesome.
In the wrong way.
Also known as stupid.
No, you just need a few habits to move better.
I can legit think of so many mistakes.
That's a good thing though.
I actually like that.
the worst feeling when you lose a game you don't know
I always confuse whether
you use this spell against Windwalk
or against, so I just didn't use it for the longest time
yeah exactly
scout tower time is now, you went back into your base which is good
yeah this was risky
he could have been surrounded
Coincidentally, if he does get surrounded, and you try to escape him anyway, it will be in vain, and he will die, he'll be stuck.
But if you let him keep harvesting without touching him, and only if you do it without touching him, because right now he's on his second to infinity return trip.
And second to infinity is when lumber peasants have no collision except with other lumber harvesting.
They're actively harvesting. So for instance, you can't have two peasants standing inside each other cutting the same tree.
But they are allowed to move through every other unit that is in their path between Town Hall and the tree,
so long as they're on their second to infinity trip.
But on their first trip, which he would be if you now clicked him you clicked on this tree
He would be on his first trip again makes sense
Yeah, you understand what I'm saying, right?
Well, so it has to be specifically the second one well
Second all the way to infinity so it could be a second. He's oh, just not the first
Just not the first on the first he has collision at all parts of the first trip
It's only from the second and onwards that he has no collision
when returning wood or gathering wood, right? So if you get stuck here and you
touch him in any way, not just clicking him, but you give him any command, either
the reaffirmation of what he was already doing, he will once again have full
collision until he goes back to the trees after having dropped off, okay? So if
you want to save this guy, when he's fully surrounded, the best thing is don't
touch because then he will go through the wolves.
He touches him and refreshes the trip.
So you just have to hope that if he gets surrounded here that he's close to his 10th
chop because his 10 chops for 10 wood.
But he didn't surround so you were lucky.
But did you touch him?
We'll see how much he brings back.
Can you return lumber please?
Okay.
He was not right.
I touched him, I touched him.
Yeah, you touched him.
So if he had moved correctly, what you did there would have killed him.
So don't touch him, but in this case it was correct because you were not surrounded.
Make sense?
Yeah.
Okay, so you got the large lines correct even though everything was late, tower was
late, blacksmith late, farm's late, but you got everything correct.
But I failed to make the blacksmith three times because it didn't fit like in between
the gold mine and the trees on the top side. It looks like it did. It fits here but it
will be a full wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I actually tried to build it three times and
it's I think the third or fourth time it worked. I think this is the best spot over here because
this is a really convenient spot for Arcane Sanctum. Mm-hmm. Make sense. The same idea
as when Blade hits you, because he always has better hero focus than you. And either
way, he can get Heal Solve to heal 400, but your regen scroll, first of all, we're not
getting it, and even if we were, it'd be 225 HP. So Orc specializes in healing single
targets, even though it costs them money, whereas Human specializes in healing everything
at the same time with regen scroll. But in fact, we're not going to do that with this
this build in particular. So we still want to take damage on everybody rather than one
because natural regeneration will take its course. If you have three units damaged, you
get triple regen if you only have one unit damaged. We should have been in our base,
then this would never happen. You still leave while you're still there. But if you are catching
yourself out of the base and you can't get in, you have to, the moment they even look
at you, you have to run. You cannot stutter step, you can't touch, just run.
Yeah, yeah.
Like a beating.
Yeah, the damage, the maximum amount of damage you're allowed to take is like 50 from far
see your ground ball, headhunter, whatever. If you take 100 damage, I would argue you
already made a mistake generally so this is this is catastrophically bad I don't
mean you're a catastrophic about the game state it sounds funny and I accepted
even it was about me I accept the game state something that has nothing to do
with you is yeah so here you just this was good right yeah
trying to keep vision yeah yeah yeah and in fact I would keep it tighter leash
with him running back to base yeah yeah no that makes sense here you this is
correct instinct and you should do this even when you're nearly full life he
shows up you move back and then back here you understood the dance better and
in fact you could put both footmen on AM and run only your sorry both footmen on
farce here and run your AM away. Okay, there's no reason for your footman to come back. What
happens if he has four headhunters, that's no longer true. But because he's farce your
grunts and you don't see any grunts, that means you can put two footies on this FS and
run your AM. And then if he resummons wolves and he starts three V2 in your two footmen
with two wolves and a farce here or worse yet farce here, two wolves and a grunt and
and he's 4v2'ing your footman, now that's a bad trade again.
But if he starts auto-ing your footies, or even micro-ing, like being a sweatlord, and
he's like kiting your footman, that's not that bad.
But either way, if he's following your AM and showing inclination to follow, that means
he wants to go this way, and then you hitting your footman, you'll get probably like four
hits in as he kites around your footies.
So it's all about intended movement and in this case he's intending to click on your
AM and at least Footman should get hits in.
Okay, you actually have space for Sanctum here.
This is a 4x4.
Yeah, I know you've been, you were disappointed at the hair of a slaughterhouse positioning.
This is, I build it, I always build it there.
I don't find this place and it's just often it's even two next to each other right in the front
No Herod didn't see it either
This is all nice
Rifle production MK. So again same thing
AM three seconds away from finishing pull three militia to creep this
Mount the king six seconds four seconds pull five militia
always because you're either going to be killing grunts or headhunters or you're
going to be doing a bolt surround of farce here or if he's not there you're
going to be creeping the murkamp with it you forgot this part yeah there yeah I
did I was a bit of a struggle camp this one yeah but this was an insane surround
very clean yeah that was good yeah very good that's on the game say it was less
profit it was it was utopian yeah I was trying to get my bulldog first but then
I still woke them up for yeah that's why I did it the thing but these two don't
sleep they never do okay I I thought I just misread the I thought I thought the
the day just arrived you know that's a minute away no yeah golem's done sleep and if you
attention you could see that so yeah how could he miss that guys i could i miss that
i don't see any z's over them uh yeah macro was good so the way that i would do it is
montyking here bolt the priest and montyking with f2 walks into the golems because they do normal
normal damage, you don't want to take a single point of damage with rifles from normal damage
guys.
The mannequin goes in.
This is very painful.
This goes wrong very very quickly.
Yeah.
Yeah, this was a tough one.
Here I like you keeping your AM here until he's also level 2 so you can start Brilliant's
aura.
Okay.
You all need to separate if you're already AM2.
The way you should get level 2 here, is from the lowest creeps.
So here, when you were like staying, you ended up killing the golem and then, I believe, trying to separate, you should kill the trapper here, to get level 2.
Because now you're wasting a large chunk of solo exp on the Nante game.
That's not what was going through my head, by the way. This is when I realized, oh crap, MK should get the xp.
I didn't actually get level two on purpose on the major.
I was just like, oh yeah, oopsie.
Creeping is a function of time taken of how long,
let me change color, and how long does it take
to creep something?
And how long did it take you to walk there?
I just put sample values, all right?
And so right now we've got out of a minute, 48 seconds,
say we used it to creep 12 seconds to walk there. So this value always remains the same,
even if this was a green camp that took you only 11 seconds. But now our actual killing time
and the expected value that we get out of it is much lower. That means walking time was such a
large part of creeping this camp. That means we walked somewhere for trash. And so the larger
your army gets, the smaller you want this percentage to be. 12 seconds, 48, is good.
And if we then walk here in four seconds, it's never really four. In seven seconds,
and we have another camp that takes 30. Again, it's a really high creeping time ratio.
But if we were to walk on the minimap here to this green camp, that would of course take like 21 seconds to walk and then we kill the camp in like 10 seconds.
It's a bad ratio. So we're always looking for the shortest possible walk and the highest duration of creeping.
Not like we're going to make it last longer than we need to, but because high duration of creeping means high value camp.
Why would one footman took me three minutes?
That's what you wanted!
Okay, so in this scenario what I was thinking is I'm 44 supply, and my time to hit is almost there.
So I just kind of want to go up, get to the shop, buy Info and scroll, and then get the attack going.
Because you're thinking of here you would of this time and the eight minute time I said you should attack
Is that why?
No, it was more just I like I already had two pre-steros high supplies, so I kind of thought my timing was just here
Okay, I didn't necessarily look at the clock, but it felt like it was
It was time understood so shop items are available here, which means it's correct to go to shop
There are two shops you could go for either one and you should of course do so with militia
because you have too much lumber. And because these camps are in the middle of the map,
and Militia can roam from your base, Militia can roam this far, if the map was this big.
But here it is zero seconds, right? And at the middle of the map, they may have 20 seconds,
and maybe here they have like 11 seconds. And that means that you will have some value
of Melissa over either of these shops. And so in anticipation of strife, since you are
taking neutral cheese, this is your cheese. This is neutral cheese, and this is his cheese.
So because you're fighting over two neutral camps, you should pull Melissa because neutral
are the most likely to get contested, and you'll get decent Melissa value out of them.
So pull five, Melissa, go to your shop,
he'll scroll info, go to his shop.
If two fat consumes, like greater mana pot, greater heal pot,
one of mana steal, greater info pot, scroll the beast.
Get both.
Or you get his first, then yours.
The timing isn't as important as the concept of
Manticane 3.
Mm, right, yeah.
If I were you in this situation,
taking over exactly from here,
not counting the fact that you didn't militia creep this, which you should have, the next
logical camp would be this. Because the walking time is short and the value is decent. This
is a level 11 camp, which means the orange creep range is 10 to 19.
Yeah, the week is basically a green. It's the glorified green camp.
So it's not great, but it's still decent and it also frees up space for any future expansion potentially, and it was right there.
The only other valuable camp is also 353 in this quadrant of the woods, and then Ogre Lord, possible as well.
But...
Possible.
The red one already?
Oh yeah.
Yeah, if you if you pull the ogre lord down and you bolt surround him here and then kill him first while the other guys keep
Doubting if they should help him or go back home, and then you take the rest. That's level three as well
But if you fight him here without understanding all the mechanics of the three spellcasters, you're gonna get shrek
Yep, I can show you how to creep it with this
But yeah, you have like four options, your natural, this one, fancy creeping the ogre
lord, his shop, your shop, those are your options and I would say attacking his base
is awkward. If you were to attack his base now, I would probably go for bash second
because you're so far from level two clap. That means I don't want you to use level one
abilities almost at all with Wild King because that mana doesn't come back fast enough for
for your MK3.
Clap 1 should almost never be used.
And bolting on the camp?
I just bolted the ogre.
Yeah, I saw that. I don't love it because bolting ogre...
So basically, what does Bloodlust do?
Makes them hit harder as well, right?
For attack speed?
Yeah, attack speed.
Yeah. So, uh, there are buffs that make you take more damage and there are buffs that make you take the creep cam slower.
Heal and Inner Fire make you take the cam slower, which means we're talking about power growth, which is the equivalent of expanding in Starcraft.
Fast creeping is like expanding, we're having more workers, because you're getting XP and items faster.
So if you bolt to shut down Heal and Inner Fire, we are growing, we're scaling.
But if you bold to prevent bloodlust
You're taking less damage, but it doesn't matter because you have priests. It matters for other races, but not for a human with priests
We don't care if the whole camp is bloodlusted because everything will get healed for free
So all you achieved is hundred damage, which is still creeping faster by the way
But it's only okay if by the time you get into a fight, which is sometimes difficult to predict your full mana and
And we don't know when the fight is gonna break out
Yeah, and here I should have definitely not be fighting with the archmage, right correct correct, but even if you hadn't
You would be double two points seven and a half from this
Okay, yeah, so I also if you walk let's say this is was where we're gonna go to shop, right?
I walk past the green camps. Do I still not take them?
Let's say it's a one-second walk time to that green cab, but I still not taken?
Yes, but it doesn't follow the same logic I told you before, which you've correctly
analyzed with this smart question.
Because the walking time is now zero, so you should take it.
You make total sense with your question.
The problem is...
But I shouldn't have taken it around in the first place.
No, you can, you can.
There's another reason governing the reason why you should skip it.
Why did you skip this, this, and this?
There is a reason governing it.
Because you are correct not to take them, why?
Well, in this case I wanted to go to the shop and hit my timing faster.
Yeah, that's also part of the reason.
The main thing is there is a part of the game that is, there's a part of the farm on the
map, the creeps that are a shared resource between you and your opponent. And there's
the part that quote unquote belongs to you. This merc camp belongs to you. So if he does
a creep camp, if he does a creep route, for instance, he does this, and this, and then
he does this. And you did this, then this, and you missed each other, he did this, you're
taking his camp and he's taking yours. Right? Okay. And that means that you don't always
get what belongs to you. Sometimes you steal it. But you know that you're stealing it.
Like I am taking his murkamp. When he looks for it later, it won't be there. And my murkamp
is still available. And this drops a good item like devotion or or like you have rope
of the Magi. And so you know what's yours, what's mine. Why are these yours? Because
they're closer to you. And they naturally flow forth from your opening creep direction.
It doesn't mean you will get them all, but they quote unquote have your name on it. This
shop is his shop. That's your shop. If you go for a shop, you will have a much if you
go for a neutral terrain. These two are very neutral because they're on the path that's
between you and your opponent. So you're much more likely to meet each other. Everything
in the center is more hotly contested in every game. So whenever you go for center camps,
we want one is we want militia and two, we want to get there early. If we take a bunch
of green creep camps on the way. There's a chance that he already got something that's
supposed to get contested by you. It's especially supposed to get getting contested if you are
stronger and level one storm bolt is better than anything that an orc can get at level
one. It's stronger than shockwave from TC. It's stronger than worst dump. One. These
These are both trash at level 1, but Bolt is very good at level 1.
Hex is very good at level 1, extremely good, but Shadow Second sucks ass against human.
So if they go Hex second...
Also, have you ever seen Blademaster second by the way?
My brain didn't even realize it was there for a while.
It's Hitman style.
We talked about it at the beginning before you started.
So because you are coming out with a hero that has Stormbolt, which is a good level
one spell, like top tier level one spell, neutral goods are yours.
That means you are wasting your capacity of expressing your map control if you do your
own quadrant.
That's right.
And you do this quadrant and he does his, you're sharing 50 50, but you're stronger.
That's okay if you're getting MK3 really fast, because then you'll use level two ThunderClam.
But because you're too far away from level two, you're going to the middle, we want to
get their ASAP.
It is a chance to catch him.
And the theory governing skipping camps is to get to high value camps that are contestable
earlier.
That's, that's the answer to your question.
up. Okay, I get it. Okay. So he'll score info was good. Yeah.
Yeah. Here would you go to like, for example, the orange cam
that I skipped so I could actually get three. Well, okay,
let's say I didn't mess up creeping and full HP with my
archmage, so I would have been close. Yeah. I would like you to
get second attack upgrade, creep your own shop after taking
is to actually get MK3 because this is very awkward because you now have the dilemma of
wasting all your mana on a trash level 1 clap or taking bash instead so that you can focus
on a good level 1 bolt and some passive bash value.
Both is okay, the build is scaled to play with clap 2.
That's like the purpose of the build.
And if you go Bolt, Bash, you will hero focus only, because that's specialized in single
target damage.
So you're going to focus fully on hero focus.
You will ignore, you will never bolt grunts and torrents.
You will bolt whatever hero is nearest, torrent shift in second, normally, but in this case
you will be late.
And I actually found it quite hard to choose Bolt targets here, because grunts are, they're
very tanky.
feel that great to kill them and then he has summons and besides that is heroes and
tarans which are tanky. I actually didn't know what I wanted to bolt.
Yeah, no I saw that. Yeah, I have some notes on that.
I also freaking I forgot the level 2 upgrade on both my heroes. Like I didn't get level
2 clap for the longest time or level 2 elemental I'm pretty sure. Or I don't even remember
when I go. I know that I forgot it.
This is the spellable speed scroll and I would recommend it especially if you
can double it with summons to spell. Of course I knew that you just were
overwhelmed and not thinking about some unsummoning right now.
Yeah, actually the priest users was interesting because
I didn't use it enough at all. Like I literally didn't use it until
I read the word dispell in my chat and then I was like oh yeah and then I started using it
but my priest still ran out of mana completely even though I made too many priests and started
casting too late. Do you know why the five priests? Do you know why they ran out of mana? It's because
your am died. Ah okay the brilliance. The immediate effect is noticeable. Okay yeah because like
Every time the fight would break up for a sec, and then he would come back in, I would still not have a Dispel, and I was like, oh man.
That's because your AM died, and it takes two minutes to revive.
The correct play would have been to Tavern Revive him, if those double mana, because you need that mana.
Double money, double money.
Yeah, because of the aura, yeah, yeah, yeah, makes a lot of sense.
Generally, Tavern Revives are best on people that have important passives.
Because you come back with zero mana,
Let's say, if you tavern everybody a shadow, it's terrible because he has no passives,
he's all mana based, and Orc cannot even get free mana from Statue of Moonwell or Brilliant.
So you tavern everybody a shadow, you need to be desperate to do that.
But Tavern...
I probably wouldn't revive MK then in the tavern.
Yes and no, so the thing is sometimes you're working...
Unless he has Bash.
Well yeah.
bash it's better, but also it's better if you died with help, he'll put monopod for instance,
so that you can get back into it. It's also better if you already have an arcane vault
established so that even though you do come back without mana and you have no valuable
passive, you can get back into mana saddle earlier. And it's also good to rebuy a hero
from tauren if you want to make sure that they benefit from any experience gained.
Because you're your primary scaling hero.
makes sense
so you know fun to watch the replay like this just because it's like
i can see like five hundred illo in improvements here in one game
and i think you'll get better fast
uh... when you play in this build because a lot of your micro is already very nice
one dispel so you know which one is real
if you have much mana if you have a lot just remove it entirely
This bolt I don't like, so of course, you should be closer to MK3.
And that means, this one thing I didn't tell you, if you're close to MK3 or you are MK3, Stormbolt becomes almost completely ignored.
You're gonna clap attrition and you're gonna try not to click that bolt.
Think of every bolt you do, level 1 bolt by the way, as 1 fewer clap.
Level same mana cost?
No, it's 75 and 90.
But you're essentially denying a clap with every bolt.
And of course, the first second of a fight is stronger if you clap and bolt.
But fights in Warcraft 3 aren't fast enough to let that be important enough to actually just throw bolt on cooldown.
So you open a fight with clap, you don't bolt.
The only reason you bolt is to confirm a high value kill, which Grunts are not, Headhunters are not,
Walker is not, Taren is, but only if it confirms to kill, and a hero.
You can finish off a hero with a level 1 bolt if you still have mana, but otherwise we're
clapping.
And Blade Master, it's okay, right, if I know which one's the real one?
Not for damage reduction and nutrition.
No Stormbolt level 1 on a blade, unless you're lethaling him.
Right, right.
So he's always very far forward and he's kind of pushing, not really, but if all my units
are in range of attacking and I get a bolt he could die, so I guess that would be a full
HP.
If you think he can kill him it's fine, but otherwise try to lead with a clap, and by
the way there is some inefficiency in bolting someone that's already clapped.
Because you're reducing his move speed and attack rate with clap, and then if you also
stun him, which overrides the effect, you have removed the slow effect of his
attack rate and movement because he's already stunned. So you would rather
like to do it in series than in parallel.
Right. I think I just I felt like I wasn't doing enough thunder clap but like
Like the bolts just feel so natural, it's such a delicious spell you know.
I just kept bolting it and I was like, I know it was during the fight that I should have
been using it in the thunderclap but I just wasn't finding it in the moment.
No, I saw that, stone bolt addiction.
This one too, you figured out which one is real, but it is bad, but you didn't know that.
So that's fine.
A lot of this damage comes in from wolves that could have been dispelled, so this isn't
going to happen again.
I feel like if I execute this fight properly, I feel like I should have won.
Oh, absolutely, absolutely, of course.
Looking at it, like the display on the walls, the clap instead of the...
I mean, not even talking about the fact that MK should be level three,
but just like clapping instead of storm building random full HP targets and stuff.
Yeah, no, you were very close to winning this, and there's a million things to improve.
I was impressed later on in the fight when Shadow was running Clarity when he first started showing serpent words
Did you did a deliberate auto attack to cancel the Clarity during the chaos of battle? Remember that?
No
But you recognize the effect of Clarity
Yeah, I see it. Yeah, and this is Clarity and Heal Solve because it's both colors and this is Heal Solve
So, the way that Orc holds these pushes is to create distance, create sustained moments,
and then re-engage.
And the way that human wins these pushes is by never allowing those disengaged moments
to happen with 100% of your army.
So, you've got non-stop free healing and you have quote-unquote freemana, doesn't mean
waste it but it's coming it's trickling faster yeah right whereas he needs to
create pause moments to lick wounds two boxers going back to their own ring
getting water and a little pep from the coach so in this particular game he has
one form of CC which is orb of lightning if you had had the presence of mind
recognizing that these heel waving you would also know there's no hex no hex
Melee CC with the chance with lightning orb, no raiders and no warstomp because the heron
doesn't exist in this game.
CC, Tornchief 10.
So in theory you could move into him with great impunity.
Yeah.
I just thought at this point when I retreated I usually felt like my army was tiny.
Yeah, it was.
There's just two rifles and one archmage basically, right?
It was.
You're not going to kill him, but you could be with him, regardless, because he's using
just to get 200 mana and 1200 health.
Every Heal Solve is 400, yeah, that's a lot.
So the greatest fear for Orc is for you to keep up the pressure and to auto-attack everything
once.
Every hit you do on the Heal Solve, especially if it just landed, minus 33 gold, plus it's
implicit military value and every clarity you cancel when you're here and then drink the clarity
minus 70 gold
okay so whatever the sound effects don't don't register yet by the way okay there's
then just assume it one thing i noticed yeah yeah that makes sense yeah the one thing i notice is that
you, uh, the fights require a very extended focus, right?
Yeah.
Like in, in Starcraft 2 is the other way around, like you, you play a good
game and you set up the good fight.
And then when you have the good fight, the guy gets obliterated, you know?
But here you kind of, you have to look and stare at the fight for a long time.
And there's like a lot of abilities that are constantly being used that I don't
think any of the, uh, sound effects really register.
Like obviously, like the, the healing thing that's very obvious that the,
what the shadowhunter does. Yeah, like a couple are really obvious, but a lot of them they
don't register yet.
This is a case where I underestimate automatic expertise from years of exposure. I think
why doesn't he just hear it and click it?
It's a new player with less than 200 games. Yeah, that makes sense. So in this case, we're
going to use game logic. We're going to assume that every time Orc draws back, it's going
to be for Heal Solves and Clarities. He's going to spend 340 gold on two Heal Solves
and two Clarities. Always. Orc always does that. 340 gold. And then they're going to
put it on everything. And when you come and cancel it, it's good. In this case, it might
be tricky for you to know that he has in fact almost no CC. That means you can be there.
The only way you die is if you don't move. So if you go in and out, you do a couple of
cheeky hits amazing right mm-hmm do you like that about Mark has you by the way
the long fights or do you prefer the fast blasts in Starcraft actually I do
actually like it it was like a lot of Starcraft friends play about it and they
I feel like they could they complain about it right like I want to be slow
forever but I think it kind of changes when you play yourself because if you
if you don't know what players are doing then it just looks like a wet noodle
fight you know but if you realize that they're pulling this guy back and this guy forward
and target fire and then involve the right moment and the staff and blah blah blah then
it doesn't feel slow anymore you know yeah actually kind of similar to AOE within a different
way like people that watch me play AOE 2 on the YouTube video they think it's a slow game
but if you're playing yourself it doesn't really feel like that right it holds your
macroing all over the place it's like it's kind of the same as work up but just with
macro instead of micro. But I do like it. I was actually thinking that obviously I was
really young when Warcraft 3 eSports was a thing. But I think Warcraft 3 might have
shoot me better than Starcraft even.
What? But you're so fast with Starcraft though.
Yeah, but I like the thing that I was the best at always was just microing and I feel
like Warcraft 3 fights are just like a 10 minute long sequence of outplaying the heck
how do the other guy basically right I'm sure if I was you what your favorite
moments is Starcraft 2 where it's probably like out microing someone with
your one HP blink stalkers blinking with the perfect moment the prison with
two zealots goes in he kills seven drones you get out like like that you
know yeah and it's mark of three has a lot of that actually actually do like it
yeah same same anyway Starcraft 2 of course is intensely multiplayer it is
intensely multiplayer. But anyway, it feels a little bit sometimes to me like one of those
sports racing games that has no collision, where you're both basically playing your own
single player race game, and whoever races better wins by the finish line. In Starcraft,
of course, you're constantly skill checking each other. So it's not really true. But because
the fight is so short, it is like, it's all four play. And a lot of the four play is in
the macro area and decision and positioning, but the actual climax of battle itself is
like a second.
I can see that.
Whereas in Warcraft 3, your armies are rubbing up against each other for a long time.
Yeah, you know what I've learned about trying all of these RTS games?
I just freaking love RTS games, man.
Like, getting us around in Warcraft 3 or just like having perfect macro and SC2 or like
split things like it all just feels so freaking good.
That's right. They all have amazingly satisfying gameplay
components. For sure. Yeah.
This is a very interesting moment. So this, there's
Heelsalt running sale, but he feels forced to come due to a
situation of his own making. He did an image pool on you to
make the army attack you. But then he also didn't want you to
fire it since you showed willingness to do it. And now he
has to creep-jack you, but positionally, you're in a fantastic spot. Now, there's
something cool you can do with peasants. Peasants have low automatic aggro. They
have low threat, as you would call them, water warcraft. That means that anyone
that A moves won't be hitting peasants. Now, that changes when you A move into
him with peasants. That turns peasants militant. But if you hold position the
peasants, they form a wall, but do not take automatic aggro, and that means he now needs
to spend dozens of actions to click down peasants to get to the back.
So if you had five peasants on hold here, and one here, which would block it off, and
he A moves, his torrents will trip over themselves, never to get to you, Mansequin plugged the
gap.
So that's good enough, because I was usually A moving them into the fight.
And then they can die.
very little. Or at least they don't do a full body block. Yeah. Yeah, they still did something.
Blocking one tar is worth more than a moving four peasants worth of damage out of this.
Yeah, correct. Right. Yeah. Here's an interesting situation because the creeps will chase you for
about this far. And that means if you go about this far, or a little below it,
it, and you fight him, you make your stand against the Orc, then he will continue to
be here. It's lagging a bit, I need to reset the pen, it has memory loss.
And that'll be terrible for him. Yeah. And then he will continually fight 1v2. So he
can't actually chase past you, but he can't let you have it as well. You have him by the
both, except if you move this far away, because now he can occupy this zone, and the creeps
will go home.
Yeah, they actually don't chase that far then.
Yeah, in fact they have a maximum chase time, not distance, so if they're bloodlustered
because they're fast. They will chase further bloodless creep could follow you like this far,
but then you will go home. Whereas a non bloodless creep will maybe chase this far.
Okay.
Okay. So what's what happens? You give space a normal response to someone attacking. But what should
have happened is it's mounting here, rest of the army here, and then storm bolt whatever is
closest to you, not to kill it, but to put to hold it. Right. Then the rest will trap
over it, trip over him and try to go even closer to the camp. If I saw exactly how
this was like the way you're looking at it now, if I saw this, I probably would
have come back, but I what I was thinking is that I have to attack my base.
So I sorry you have to attack here. Oh, yeah
That's what I did. So I I had to do, you know, two control groups and then also pull my priest back
So I didn't like get how hard he was kind of getting owned here, right?
But it can okay. Were you taking your priest and attacking your own base, too?
No, I think I just right take those away. Yeah, so there's no point if not hundred percent of your units are taking your base
because then they will still target the passive and the reason this Magi is
currently hitting your priest is because he's on passive whereas the opponent is
probably clicking you so if all of your units were hitting his Taran that's
bolted and he's right-click moving towards you he takes 100% of the fire
because you will be 100% PvP wedged on this Torren, like so, PvP, you're actively target
firing him, and he will be moving, he wants to weave in, see, because he's a melee guy,
so he wants to weave in, most likely he is on right mouse button, which makes him not
currently engaged with PvP, and it makes him higher on the threat table for all creeps.
only when he takes all these units and he clicks right click on one of your rifles that he will also
be pvp and then it starts being about proximity rules and whoever got hit first right yeah if i
look at this it it looks like a very bad idea for him to attack me here right but you make it okay
because you gave the space up. Yeah exactly. Bad bolt. Yeah. You should just say good bolt
because they're bad by default. Actually I target with the rifles by the way because it feels like
he only has tanky stuff so there's I'm not sure what to attack actually. Defensive micro is good
where you only offer one unit at a time to Torrent Splash, first of all, and secondly you should be
targeting whatever they can safely hit, which is the highest prior among those targets. So if you could,
you would target the Shadow. The second, you would target the Fars here, because they're
squishier and they're ranged. But because you cannot, you need to attack something that's over here.
Among those, Grunt doesn't matter. Torrents and Blade are the big threat,
and they're attackable. Tarans have 1300 health and Blade has 600. Blade does have
5 armor and he has Hero Armor which is only taking half damage from piercing
whereas Heavy takes 90% he has 2 more armor which is another 12% survivability.
So overall, 950, I would say Blade does take less damage than Tarans but he has
less than half the life. So overall Blade is still more fragile than Taran and he
also deals more damage so with all that being said it is better to target blade
than Torren. Yeah one this spell and then target the real one. Correct, correct.
Or should I actually use all my dispels on the blades like the fake ones or do
they not deal enough damage for me to do that? They do, they do. Critical strike is
15% damage and mirror image is 20% so mirror image actually has more damage
than crit and of course it is compounding damage they both buff each other
because images also have crit. Crit can only be stopped by CCing blade whereas
image can be stopped by dispelling and it also gives XP so essentially images
more DPS than crit itself but the counter play is that you can
dispel it and it gives XP when it dies. So yes you should fully dispel images
every time you can okay here it's kind of question starting to get questionable
right because of the mana on the priest a little bit and also you have 700 lumber
which means you should pull all the militia yeah but you have plenty of
actually yeah eventually yeah a bit late but yeah eventually yeah because
mountain king now has no mana it would be great to put the rope on the a.m. but
hard to think about it now and you you have more than enough priest mana and I
I would also point out that this torrent can pulverize three units right now and generally there should only be one on torrent if you can help it.
Right, yeah.
One of the things that I forgot actually.
Most things I kinda, well not most, but a bunch of things I saw as I was doing it wrong.
The torrent splash I forgot about.
Here you see the effect of splash.
This is the hot zone.
And this is the...
I'm sorry. Give me one minute.
Thank you so much AJ. I appreciate it bro.
Thank you for the fish that you did. It's very generous.
Glad you're enjoying yourself.
Thank you so much.
20 years ago. Thank you so much, AJ. You're welcome, Ben.
Okay. Um, let's see. I have a weird bug. Okay. Alright. Alright. Where were we? Oh, yeah.
On the topic of overchasing or finishing kills against Orc, finishing kills is going to feel
very good to you in general.
But against Orc it's not that important and it's kind of a general philosophy from the
start to the end of the game.
It changes when someone has high level shadow and it changes if someone has healing ward.
But overall a unit out of the battle is a dead unit.
No experience, not truly dead, but it's gone.
The way that you make that okay is that when he finally yields space with the rest, he
still has to heal himself, all those guys.
There's no priest healing them.
And that's where you move in.
And so one of the most important things that you will learn against Orc is that as someone
routes, as they retreat, you will follow them.
Okay.
And you will find them wherever they are.
It could be over here, or it could be going past the left side and be over here.
But you're gonna find him and you're gonna go forward with the most daring
Attacker that you can find could be AM with TP, AM with Invo, or it could be backed up by a source arrest with Invis
So that whatever you send in doesn't get killed which would be done
Like it's like, oh, we're gonna cancel something then I die
So when we play this a bit this fight still went okay. He doesn't have so high DPS yet
and
this was a bad bolt and
and here
The main goal would be to move your army to follow him as fast as possible because once again, this is going to be
He's gonna heal us off. So your full life. He's low and that's kind of a theme
right and so am go yeah, because I
Healing and mana his
That talk is better than my pet dog. Yeah. Yeah, exactly
My non-pep talk is better than his non
Correct correct you want to trap people and we call it the slow trap you want to catch people in the slow trap
And you want to outbeat people in the sustained battle you have sustained he doesn't he pays money you get it for free
So you want that 10-minute fight? It's very epic
Yeah
And I think there were a couple of other but I think that's mostly it to be honest
Because it'll just be repeats of the same thing
unless you want to see the rest.
I could see it quickly maybe.
The clap was good, bringing in Melissa was good.
Spreading damage is fine.
It's around here would be nice but it's okay.
I'm just going to play it out on two top speeds.
You kill Tauron, kill another Tauron, almost.
pretty nice. The bolt was not great because you have level 3 MK, so it could have been
clapped to. And here you see another situation where only MK is at risk, but the rest is
healthy. And look what he's getting away with. He'll solve.
Yeah, that's gross. Yeah, okay, okay, I see.
And then, uh...
Yeah, here I missed both level ups as well.
What's that?
Here I missed both level ups.
Oh yeah, that's true.
Underskilled.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
at some point but then like I realized I didn't level up my archmage and then like a while
after I was like oh I also didn't level up this guy yeah I think it from if there's anything
I've seen in this invitation or is it a lot of people miss their skill ups there's a subtle
sound effect less subtle more subtle than in World of Warcraft and also there's very
little lingering information that reminds you in other games do it better so I think
it's something to work on if they want to make any changes on that. When you try to
find them and get cancels, that's step one. And another one is killing the shop, very
allowed.
The Voodoo Lounge is the shop, okay? I didn't actually know what the shop was.
Okay, yeah. Yeah, Voodoo Lounge. This is your highest priority attack target. Aside with
any baros, the Dunlchets have this studded metal look. Studded metal means fortified,
studded metal. You have to upgrade that thing on all of them? No, it's a single upgrade from
the Warmill that costs nearly 200 lumber, almost no gold, but nearly 200 lumber, and it makes them
have a studded metal look, and it turns their armor from heavy, like grunts, into fortified, like
buildings. Okay, okay, okay. And so the main part here, I was, sorry, I was attacking the altar,
and I knew it was useless, but it just felt like the thing that was attackable.
That makes sense.
And in fact, you wanted to do like a soft commit to attack his base to force him to attack into you again. I get it.
And this felt like it, even though you knew that leaves you exposed a bit.
And sometimes forward is safer because you would be able to funnel him into a four slot and a two slot with an MK plugging the gap.
And so forward is actually safer if you were positioned like so.
makes sense and then it allows your water elementals are good as well yes
exactly exactly exactly so still very winnable in fact you are ahead your 56
population against 39 and you you can buy a hip-hop monopod we didn't buy that
once you did rely on regents growing clarity but I think this also forced you
to take a break and pit stop and box or corner. If you want to forge more momentum then spam
heal pots mana pots. Right, they feel a little expensive. Correct, especially if you're over 50
already. But if you're still at 50 you're gonna feel a lot more affordable. Right. And if you
mana pot... It's also okay to stack them, like let's say stop at 50 and you buy like two mana pots
on mk for example yeah it's okay there's of course a shared cooldown of
likewise regen items like mana pot, mana stone have a shared cooldown and heal
pot, heal stone and gradient heal pot have a shared cooldown just like little
info pot and big info pot have a shared cooldown I didn't know that actually okay
yeah so if you just use info pot on mk and he's about to die again there's no
point giving am info pot to him it's most likely still gonna be on a 8 second
build them. With Healport Mana Pulse you might already win the game here. This
Darn has so much surface area it's fine to kite back. Oh yeah. If you clap and
then kite back, clap and back, clap back. Yeah let's let's remember that. Clap back.
Means you will take very little damage when running because he has low attack
speed, low move speed. The clap back is your go back moment and then when he runs back that's
where you start firing again or throw a bolt on the string. So here you're a bit too honest,
just blow for blow hitting each other. Yeah, so I should have gone for the tarant here.
You should clap something, of course there should be lots of dispell
that we're not talking about anymore, because it's repetitious, but yeah, here you should be...
I don't actually have them here. No, that's true, you're right. Here, I was paying attention,
but I didn't have energy. But it's because you picked the wrong ability. I said brilliance too.
That would help. Very nice movement there. A lot of players, this invitation, didn't always
Nice.
No, I had to do that.
Here...
Hey, that was a good bolt.
That was an okay bolt.
That was an okay bolt, yeah.
Got a kill.
That was okay.
Here you could TP and if you do you would kill a peasant to get back to 50.
Makes sense.
Because he died you would...
Let's say...
Okay, he resets.
you would kill a peasant you would not kill a peasant yet because you're already under 50 and when
you retrain am you'll be back to 51 then you can evaluate if you want to kill a peasant
yeah it would be tough to pp though right because i would probably lose the shop at the front and
yeah my arm is low hp i don't have items at home so it's not ideal right not ideal but better than
than losing AM4. I can see staying and letting AM3 die and retraining in from Tauren if you
feel like you're forging momentum so that you don't give him the pit stop moment. But
there was nothing left to pit stop for him, there were no units. So here you have that
position that I spoke of before. And it's a good clap too. We're overstaying a little
We did some cool grunt micro.
This, yeah, that was nice.
Overall it still looks...
The hex is a skill shot from the Shadowhunter?
No, it's a point in click.
And it's instant.
I thought it...
Wait, is it not the hex?
I thought I'm gonna throw something and it missed.
Or that's what I thought I saw.
That is not possible. Let me see what you think you saw.
of the ensnare or what is it so he has a lightning warp that can do a decaying 100 slow
oh yeah it's like the net or something like that it's a it's kind of nets yeah but it's uh
it has a 30 chance to proc on auto attacks to root units okay okay
nothing could have missed because you have no evasion so i don't know what you saw
Yeah, probably just off the collusion I did.
Looking at this now, I could have probably chilled, right?
Because I have MK5 coming up soon, TM, which would be kind of a shake, huh?
He is outskating you in a way, because he's getting Torrents which are higher tier,
but you are right you are higher you are high level and you're close to mk5 and
that is very valuable so if you do if you if you had to aim back and you got
brilliant on your priest first of all you're you can't fight right now because
you don't have mana so that actually changes the situation yeah but yeah
getting anything brilliant pretty massive I like I really thought my
priest would have more mana but there's nothing on them yeah I was I was also
acutely aware of it upon seeing that's like wow its effect is very instant
huh yeah so here I should you back off and do some camp probably until I get
mana and am back and maybe level 5 on MK yeah but the problem is you can't give
them both these camp you need to take this lab and then the ogre lords and
and then you come back with MK5.
The lab and ogrelord together are MK5.
That means he will creep this or follow you,
but he'll probably creep this.
And he has no TP, so he can't go far.
Maybe he has to take, like, orange.
If he takes ogrelord, you will attack him again
before he's back.
And then you'll have clap level three,
which will be very strong,
but mirror image dispels, clap.
So you clap, you dispell images, and then you just target fireblades every time.
And you make sure that MK has an Invalpoth and Healpoth, so that he can take all of the Torren's auto attacks.
Make him put effort into getting those Torrens on top of your Bioball.
So in this case, let's see what happens.
He is actually this guy's hitting MK.
Here he's putting effort to right-click them inside your army and so if you move back everything
Except mountain king or even everything a little bit. I'm making sure MK stays in front
This is not a great storm bolt and then here you would move your army back and then place your mountain king here
All right
So far what I'm getting from the ability that my bolts are always bad and my claps are almost always good
Yes, because the clap is here.
Yeah, but also because bolt, I guess bolt has to kill.
It's not okay to value bolt because the numbers just aren't the same as clap.
But the good thing about it is it stuns.
So you prevent heel pod, you prevent infopod, and you prevent running.
Whereas on the clap, they still have maximum movement speed when their speed scroll.
So if you clap a 500 HP taran he can speed scroll and run it away and get away with 200 life
But if you bolt a 500 HP taran it dies
Right now clap is value and bolt is single target kill but you don't bolt unless you can get the kill and
Here everything has to move back the army and then you block the mountain king gap here
Yeah, this fight was pretty bad already.
Clap is good, moving and mounting up was not good.
Yeah.
And he's getting to a certain point.
The point is that the army did feel like it was much better than mine though, wasn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
The 4th RN and the 3 heroes.
Correct, now you've been outscaled.
Yeah.
Overall, a very good rendition, especially considering that you only saw me do it against AI.
Yeah.
And a very good coachable game.
I feel like I look kind of promising, honestly. I have a lot of things to learn.
Yes.
If Sparky is still there, would you mind joining the lobby again?
If you still want to play, of course.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, I'll do another one.
I'll beer you two minutes again.
Okay.
Yes, I'm here. Okay. Sorry, I called you Sparky. Starkey. Do you want to play another game
named Uthermal 2?
Chat, your honest opinion. Do you think it's better if I do a demonstrative game or if
Uthermal plays his second considering we went so deep into analysis anyway, which is kind
of like demonstration. Have him play hands on. I think you should play a second. Second
your analysis was already good. Yeah, makes sense. Because me doing a demo game is like
showing what to do, whereas the analysis was the same goal. So he needs he needs he needs
to play. Let him apply. Yeah, makes sense. We should do a different map so that we don't
allow him to get too comfortable with a single recognition pallet. But he learns to apply
it in different places. The same way you train a dog. Or if you teach a dog to sit at home,
he will learn it eventually. But then if you go to the mall and you tell them to sit, they
don't know because it's in a different context because a lot of the learning is contextual.
And it's only once you've told them to sit in like 10 different places that they understand
it's a global order.
So I need to train you thermal like a dog to give them a global order of getting MK3
and doing a timing attack.
And it's not just contextual to last refuge.
Oh, I forgot the nudes.
Works for horses the same way, lol.
Works for horses the same way.
Oh cool, so do you.
You dog-mull.
Is he a dog?
By the way, I love dogs, so he should be so lucky to be compared to one.
Look at that.
Isn't that just the most beautiful thing?
Is there a good streamer like Grubby that teach undead?
Yeah, me.
I told Hera.
It's all on my YouTube.
Excavator mark YouTube.
Search GroovyHero on YouTube and you will see much good under training.
Coil is ass.
Maybe give him a 2 minute recap of the strategy.
Hello.
Hello, welcome back.
Game name eternal to my chat says you called me a dog
Not quite right, but I can see how they misunderstand it
You thermal please yeah
summary
MK3 goal clap to go
Only lethal bolts try to use them as minimalistically as possible focus on clap attrition
cancel heal solves prevent pit stops and pep talks
I'm glad you made sure I got tortured by Fars here, I guess.
Of course.
Anything.
That's important.
It's the hardest thing about the matchup, I think, for me so far.
I see, I see.
I'm going to change your color to something that stands out more.
Yep.
Okay, ready?
So yeah, council, yourselves and charities, MK3, monopleteal podspurchases, give low surface
area to torrents, dispel image and wolves, and have fun.
Yeah, try.
Alright, see you, Hs.
Yep.
Oh, here we go again, let's see.
Good dog.
Freaky scary orcs, man.
Short to summary ever.
Yeah, it was like a long list.
That's beautiful.
And thank you, Esukurumi, I appreciate it, man.
By the way, guys, I really like this new feature that they put, like the five second cooldown
where you can already use your...
I don't like this. He likes it.
Like, move around your stuff.
Like, they implement it for lack,
but I actually think it's quite nice to not have to be in
full anxiety mode to spread your workers and stuff.
You know, actually, it's quite nice.
Not gonna lie.
Terminal Town flag? Yeah, he kinda trolled until he picked Italian.
He's lying.
But where he's from?
I love that you did a one-two-second window delay.
Yeah, it's it's a good feature.
And thank you for this up Jabalabada, Funtime, Shibuyaku, SlippyBallback,
AJG with the gift of the Yellow Curve that's 50 on the...
I guess?
What do I, Art Smuggler tell you?
Thank you guys.
So I want to get this green dude over here.
The correct creep camp on this map is the orange to your right.
Oh, that's a weak one?
Yeah, it's a weak orange.
That's your 1.8.
Sorry for that.
Thank you.
Oh my god, is there something that wakes up dogs more than plastic?
It guilt trips you about eating snacks.
Is too far meant to start worth the gold income loss?
Yes.
need it in fact.
Grubby, guess what?
My dog is having puppies.
What?
How did that happen?
Why is Grubby coaching at the moment?
Oh, because a friend asked me.
No goal, just coaching.
Check.
Check is late.
3 seconds late.
No late on the edge up there, or up here.
It's okay.
Okay, he's going inside, that's good.
Get back in here.
This is good.
I was a little late.
Good.
Okay, perfect.
This is movement I like to see.
Instantly become a Lissar.
Oh, okay, it was not a Lissar.
You can surround him.
itself I lost one well this year a bit late that one might die too because of
where he's positioning it
well but he got xp from the wall it denied us we can creep
Oh yeah baby, that's Starkey 700 for you.
Been worse.
It's been worse!
Been worse.
It's been worse!
Pharmallocation good, didn't block the real estate.
More like Starkey 1500.
Yeah, nice one.
You say that because that's his elo, right?
That's a very apt number you picked there Masterwork.
Doesn't say that I lose.
Yeah, he does too.
He needs another farm.
The players' forces are under attack.
His farm is going to be late.
He can only fit one rifle in the mountain kingdom.
It is really good that he comes out here.
He gave a little bit too much space, he's making a rifle.
He could have done that, yeah, he's got a good farm, a little late.
You should just take green cap down with two militia.
Mom to king.
You can fit one more rifle in, make sanctum, perfect.
Power building it.
Okay, macro looking clean.
Put the poison guy or no?
No.
I also don't have water, no?
Take it, take it.
You should just take it.
Without water elemental?
Yeah, it's fine.
It's easy.
Just kill the purple guy first.
Keep blocks, guy showing off.
Okay, pull Malisha. Another one, yep.
Mountain King is out, he needs to pull Malisha. Every time.
Better get this one. I don't want to tell him, I don't want to
remind him. Oh wait, that was some kind of elemental
destroying spell. How does he forget again? How does he forget? Oh, he does... no, no,
one. Oh, he's still one, but he didn't steal the other. I guess not pulling militia is
almost okay here because he's so low on lumber. If he's not going to remake peasants, it's
actually correct not to pull militia here. But if he was going to remake two peasants,
should have pulled like three militia. You told him like a hundred things, he can't
remember it all. Why isn't it possible, sir, you?
Staying here until the creep is almost dead with AM is correct. It looks like he
knows that. And bolting here is also fine because of how much damage
is gonna take otherwise, and he's almost full mana. This is very well done. The
rifles, do they have range yet? No, I'm not sure he's gonna remember anymore, but
all this is fine. Not pulling militias is fine because he's low on number, he lost
so many pheasants, it's gonna be 2.9. So now he has to go to the shop, it's almost
daytime, that gets him MK3 and then he can buy the items. Looks like he's doing
just that and he's remembering his rifle upgrade and his priest upgrade so he has
one priest and seven rifles and he's elemental creeping this it's it's great
and he's not tanking with mantaking which is great he's keeping his am here
which is also great because mk will be level up anyway
Mary has clap level 2 and he picked it and he should have dropped aggro with
mantaking and he can get in full and heal scroll you got only in full not
Heal scroll and here he should manual heal and just to make some notes manual
Heal target priest on MK
and
Agro toggle away from MK because it's like his main issues. He solved it anyway, and he got the hill scroll, okay?
So he's my boys got everything. He's gonna bring the boys. Yeah, there we go
He's getting it on the tech upgrade. Okay, this is really nice
nice. Now the Orc hasn't been sitting still either and has been doing a lot of farming.
This won't be easy for him. Look at this, two torrents and pulverizing production. Kill
the shop, I hope he remembers to kill the shop. He does. Looks nice. The timing is not
bad, 840. He can pluck the gap here with MK, clap, perfect, perfect. He's not overtaking
damage and he continues attacking the shop and here's going to be the second clap. He
he killed the shop that's so good and then another clap and here he should pull back
a little bit to keep his mana to king alive or he can invul pot and he's targeting the
blade as well which is also good and soon we get to the heal scroll territory which
he could do now okay and he should mana steal and dispel and dispel images.
I can cast it so many times.
But AM is gonna die, I think he forgot again.
But he's still targeting blades, he already worked through the enemy.
Oh, I didn't even realize that.
I've messed it up.
And he's still fine actually, he can still win.
He needs to rebuy AM from the center.
I thought that was the real one, psych.
I'm losing hope in him winning only for some can win this now I think it's over
now I don't know what conversation chat is having but I agree that work at three
for the most part doesn't have skill shots not in any meaningful capacity
I never made my arc mage, actually.
Should I stop the fight as a referee?
Because I feel like he has 0% chance.
The first stun can even be used as a point and click, by the way.
It's a skill shot, but it's not a skill shot in a meaningful way like it is in Hudson League
and Dota.
Even Dota doesn't have that many skill shots.
The spell, the spell.
I don't know, might be moralizing.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe you should give people the freedom when to leave the game, when they are mentally
uh... having closure
and case for those
uh...
i got downtown
no he needs to learn being right that's good training as my boxing teacher told
me
i think a boxing teacher just like beating you up
well
That's what I call an Icaramba.
We always have so much fun with Orc Beachers students, I've noticed.
It's good game.
You did a lot of improvements compared to before.
You went inside your own base.
Your AM was safer.
couple peasants. Yeah, and ideally you kill them. Now go ahead and join you thermal three.
Ideally, you're the one that kills them. Also, when you finish the first camp and your water
elemental is healthy, it is usually a safe bet to kill it as a rule, not even only in response.
A star key, you thermal three, can you join one more time, not over not only in response to him
showing up in which case your blood rates will already go up but just kill it as a rule against
orc because they often show up. There's not much point in dragging one hp water early around.
Right okay. Yeah and then the peasants any peasants that gets attacked must become a militia
any peasant that is lower than max health when wolves enter your base must become a militia.
right yeah because you only need to be killing your own units it's so unnatural to me it's just
I don't even think of it you know I'm not even like oh I could have killed it myself like it
doesn't doesn't even cross my mind I see yeah yeah well at some point it will unlock for you in
in the future. Yeah, I think so.
Your creeping was pretty good. You did a lot of things very
well, including not sending elemental into the purge camp.
You were down to six or seven peasants and your lumber was
under 160. So you didn't pull militia from onto King. I hope
that was a conscious decision due to low lumber and less
peasants, rather than, you know, I hope not like the consequence
or dire. Well, you could have pulled militia. Okay, normally
that's a rule. MK comes out, pull militia and creep. Yeah.
I'm gonna take a note of that, actually. Yeah, but in this case,
it was, it was okay, because you had so few peasants, we had
two choices. remake peasants to get more lumber. And then you
can pull three to four militia to creep your mountain king. Or if you were resolving not
a remake, then you're basically aiming for the most efficient possible 50 pop army is
50 pop army with six passes on wood is larger than with nine. One more rifle group. And
now you have more incentive to stay at 50 rather than going over and putting all excess
money into Hewlett-Manipals.
I was just trying to think what went wrong later into the game and the first thing I thought
of that I should probably have done another big camp before going to the base, kind of
well, doing camps is good but also to get a couple more pre-styled because again, Blade
Master I think I need the spell right, I just get destroyed every time.
Because that's not correct.
Kind of true, but part of the reason you weren't completely ready for the fight, even though your timing this time was very good, and your creep order was absolutely correct.
You did orange into turtle orange into goblin shop, into getting items, and you had a 50-pop attack with an attack upgrade, and you pulled the boys.
So, many things were correct.
This time it came down mostly to small mistakes on the second and third camp you did with
Mountaking.
You did something absolutely very correct, which is keeping your Archmage with your
Mountaking on the Gargantuan Sea Turtle level 7.
You realize it's going to take a while.
You only pulled the AM away when you were about to kill the turtle 7.
In this case, you had 95% mana on Mantaking.
You had used the bolt on the first camp, which was correct for damage mitigation on your
Mantaking as he will be perched and that means all will be targeting him.
Then the turtle level 7 has chaos damage, which bypasses hero armor type.
So any creep level 7 is always going to chunk heroes.
But that's bolt-able.
Yeah, yeah, because we're...
Rifleman tank it.
Yeah, a little bit of spread.
Rifleman, actually, funnily enough, most melee attacks in this game, almost all, are normal
damage, which means rifle stake bonus.
But level 7 creeps, they have chaos damage, which is 100% to all, but it means no drawbacks
on buildings, no drawbacks on heroes, but it also means no bonuses on medium.
And so while it may look instinctively wrong to get melee hit with rifles to any creeps,
which would be very wrong against a level 5 overseer or level 5 cobbled, or level 6 wolf,
very bad to get tank those with rifles, but it's actually more okay to tank ogre lord
7 or a turtle 7 because it's 100%, not 150%.
It's more important that MK is healthy more important that he's not as low as he was indeed correct. Yeah, he was very low
One bolt would have helped you against the turtle seven and you can also do a bit of kiting where nobody gets hit for a while
But the turtle
like marine versus baneling split
Yeah
And then that was still fine. And so you were in a situation where he had seven rifles in one priest and
And that is a low priest ratio, but it just that's just how the game went because you produced early and you produced non-stop with rifles and that's actually a good thing.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But that's one of the situations where you want to start taking agency over who the priest heals.
Because he'll heal anyone that's near.
Could be elemental rifle.
In this case, you want to take the priest.
You don't even have to disable auto cast.
But you want to take the priest and you want to do a manual heal on the MK and then don't touch the priest anymore
Right very important he gets the hundred percent healing time
Then when you crept the middle camp you did a water elemental summon the tank and after the water elemental died
MK became the tank for three and then two and one creep
especially because he was already hurt, he should take zero tanking damage there so that
you can get ready for the attack you know is about to happen. You're about to attack
Orc base so it's the final preps. And do you know about aggro toggling? Yeah, yeah. So
in this case after the melee creep level 5 dies, the mountain king should aggro toggle
away, you don't even have to say who they should attack, just not the MK. So the MK can attack a rifle,
AM building, whatever. Because those turtles have piercing attack and they actually only do 50%
against rifles. Whereas they also do 50 against hero. So it's fine. They do almost the same
damage. That means you're not sacrificing unit integrity, unit health. It's not like you're
letting them get hit by a melee normal tank. It's piercing, which is completely fine. So
it's always nice to get your rifles hit by ranged creeps.
Makes sense. Makes sense. You wouldn't tank with the Archmage even like a little bit?
You kept Archmage with your MK correctly because Monte King was 2.8. And so you knew
you're going to get an MK3 regardless. And so it was correct for him to stay. And therefore
he could also do a bit of tanking. Either AM or Rifle would be completely fine tanking
targets, just not the Mantik. Overall I feel like you played a very good game, defensively
according to the script, the main problem was Mantik was low and then the rest just
comes down to battle micro. Yeah, yeah. I played most of your stuff to fight because
I had like multiple moments where I thought I had him, you know, like I knew which one
it was and then but it's like so many mirror images that he can cast.
For sure.
And very hard to kill.
And also you killed his shop.
You remembered that and that was great.
Yeah.
So should I ignore Blade Master by the way in the fight?
Like as it's...
I think he's your main attack target in fact.
yeah but I never kill him yeah you don't have to kill him he just has to go
back so that he stops hitting you yeah okay
killing him will come down to how many dispels you have but keep in mind that
every time you hit him his next image will be less effective
this is something you can do to get a little bit more gold return resources on
a gold guy and a non-gold guy I always right back to the gold mine sorry I'm
not sharing screen yet am I oh I am I mean I'm in the game oh yeah right you
should watch my perspective it's better yeah okay yeah and I'm sharing screen
I can just watch your stream as well it's better if you're live so if you if
you watch my discord stream is the best yes let me
I'm ready, okay.
Is there a way to fully full screen it on this screen?
Yes, there's an arrow in the middle bottom of the where you're currently receiving image.
If you hover over it, there's an arrow that will compress the two portraits of you and
me downwards.
It's like a little indent arrow.
Do you see it?
Oh yeah, yeah, I got it.
Perfect.
Cool.
It looks good enough now, right?
Yes, yes.
Yeah, so what I'm doing here is I'm taking two peasants every time and I'm pressing
the term resources and it makes them walk a little faster.
it's better than pressing the pheasant back to the golden line.
You can do this too. It's the same.
Yeah, that's what I do.
Okay, cool. That's roughly the same.
That's how you mentioned it in the video.
Okay.
So if I were to rally here, can you tell me where my hero will spawn?
In your base, on the left side.
Because it's counterclockwise and it's blocked by a tree.
Awesome
Does it fit in the gap?
They will come here
Yeah, that does it fit in the gap here. There's no gap
How is way really there's no gap here. This is three trace. No, I mean below below the
culture yeah, I
Had sometimes where I tried to do it with just one gap and then I get stuck somehow
And now I either put two gaps or no gaps.
Oh, I fucked up. Now I have to tank with AM.
Oh, like? Whoa, am I disconnected? Are you still there?
I hear you, but I see the disconnect.
I have to tank with AM.
And now I tank with LA again.
I messed up. Alright, tech?
What did you do?
I summoned Elemental as an aggro, and so it became a new unit in that range he got ensnared.
uh okay immediately melissa kite against kite against wolf hit on am
I am.
He's right.
Right.
Farms.
This is Blacksmith first, no?
Yeah, it should be.
GG. Terrible.
They actually make like six militia right away, that's a lot.
Well, I don't want any to get hit.
Yeah.
Arcane.
take a couple of militia to help me out okay he goes back
alright now I make the blacksmith here because this is my arcane sanctum location
so you see the throw away footsies and elli I put on the farce here got him
seriously hurt too yeah that's crazy
So here I'm just gonna kill it. I didn't need to but I just want to show you how good it
is to kill your own units. No I mean it makes sense. I usually keep them alive at 1 HP and
I hope that one day they get healed or something. That is correct but if you think he's about
to die for it and you know they're gonna die you can see like the future then that's fine
to kill them yourself. Make sure you don't get the threat.
You went three footman this game, right? Or was it two footman?
No, no. I had just two. Yeah, I went nine peasants. I went nine peasants.
I'll send alien to scout. I don't want to take damage with anything real.
Okay, the creep coming from here means he's here.
I guess Orc, you want to do 200 damage on everything, rather than 401.
Because 400 is there.
Because the Heal Solve was 400.
Yeah.
He's got a D-Spawn.
So now I just switch targets because he's got 300, which is only 75% of a Heal Solve.
So he has to waste 25% of it.
so interesting because I don't have any way to kill grants so I shouldn't believe
it look at this guy showing off so here I use this to try and kill it like the
portrait because you could miss click on the alley okay use your own portrait
okay I have two choices now the middle shop or the mercenary camp here middle
Shop would be saying I want Stormbolt his units. I think he's taking it and this would be
creeping to level 2.2 but I think he may want this. Okay he's not, I guess wrong but it's too
late to do anything else. It's still contested camp, it's fine.
Sometimes you can get really cute and send AM all the way into his gold mine, if you
think he might be there.
Just hit thanks.
I get three priests before getting this spell.
I have very low lumber, but that's fine because I've already started long rifle and gunpowder
upgrades.
Hmm.
As far as you can take this without the elemental, it's too painful.
It is painful at first, but I've got the Militia coming.
And why didn't you want to kill the priest first?
I do.
Okay, but you didn't take everything on it?
Not everything, yeah.
Because, uh...
I guess...
It's not as big a deal because the Golem cannot get inner-fired.
Oh, okay.
They can see his magic in here.
They don't sleep, no inner fire.
Yeah.
This guy first, but no vault because I'm 80%.
Oh, I guess a poisoner.
Yeah.
So now I want to stop.
Sometimes I know what the camps do, but I don't know which unit it is that does what, you know?
Yeah.
I can never realize he was a poisoner.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Makes sense.
getting my next gunpowder upgrade crystal ball, check his progress, gates torrents, triple
hero, priest upgrade, 20 xp
you bolted for that?
yeah
second wolf I bolted in here you see units are hurt so he's gonna heal solve
so if I were to go here he's gonna go all the way over here to heal solve chase
him like a psycho yeah like a psycho okay there's no CC unless it's hex
Hit this Taran.
I don't have this spell yet.
Oh, okay.
Now I have this spell.
Nice and out. Clap. He's gonna mirror in it soon.
Another Dispel. That's real. Hit him again.
Move fast.
No, you don't have to finish him off.
Don't have to finish him off.
I am out of mana now.
Anti-Orc.
We should probably build a vault then, right?
Yeah. Level 2 aura.
I don't have this spell mana.
Hit the taran.
Hit the blade.
Still no this spell. A new guy has this spell.
Nice.
I lost like no unit because I walked back he played very well by the way
it was like such a weird weird way to fight somehow
it's like fight club like you start a fight even though you're gonna lose it if you take it
but then instead of like in fight club maybe you haven't seen it uh you run away
okay and it's just like nothing really dies but slowly the whole project falls apart you know
Yes, for the most part with human I win because I kill units, I feel like.
You need to start killing things.
Probably on the arc page or whether it's with storm bolts around.
Here you don't really kill stuff but somehow you're winning, you know, it feels weird.
Yes, you will learn the art of damaging instead of killing and then cancelling so on.
That leads to winning the war.
Right, right.
And also I think three priests.
He's still target higher.
yeah yeah yeah I still target fire okay when he attacks into me I will target
fire to kill one by one units but if he runs away I'm not gonna shed a tear
nor throw a clap right I'm sorry nor throw a bolt all right yeah that's the
instinct I need to start suppressing it's okay to kill heroes and torrents with
both don't forget that if he runs away you don't have to let him pep talk and
cancel the pep talk but it's it's okay to throw a bolt but it's also fine not to
do it especially if your next clap could have a bigger impact on the ongoing
fight yeah is that torrents out of the front and I think I was trolling you when
I said three priests with this one to sorcer us I think it's better to spam
priests especially against this guy because he has wolves image image image
image speed scroll image so you want as many priests as possible and the slow is
problem because when you slow Taren and Hero it only lasts a short time and also slow gets dispelled
by mirror image. Right, yeah. So the sorcerer is better against the TC, right? Yeah, TC, but also
against Grand Raider. Like if he's Grand Raider Shaman. Oh, Raider is right. Yeah, it's very good
to have slow there against Grand Raider Shaman, Grand Raider Walker, Grand Raider Shaman, Walker
Kodo, but slow isn't that good into head hunters and torrents. Head hunters, there's too many,
they're too far back. Torrents, it doesn't last that long, blade with image. Again,
it doesn't last long because he dispels it. So do you eventually want sorceresses? Yes,
but not as part of this push. You want every new priest to do more healing and dispel.
Right, right. Yeah. And you said you were trolling me with the priest into sorcerers,
but you still make three priests before this spell?
Because this game you were a bit late on it, right?
On this spell, yeah, I was too late. I think I had four into this spell. That's a bit trolled,
too.
Okay.
Right.
I think three into dispel, two into dispel, four.
It depends a bit on population too.
So I am, as a worker player,
I'm hard-coded to get upgrades once I'm at 50.
What did you say?
As a worker player, I'm hard-coded to get upgrades
for units that come from unit production buildings,
that share cooldown in the production queue.
Any upgrades that share production key with units, I'm hard-coded to want to get them at 50
Because that's a natural pit stop to stop producing and get upgrades
Now that's not how I treat raider and snare. I get that ASAP one raider than a snare
There's no point making multiple raiders without a snare
For rifles you want long rifles early before you get to 50
So it's not true for those. It shouldn't be true for priests dispell either. You
want that as soon as you could need it. So it depends a little bit on how much
mana your priests now have, whether you need a third priest, how many units are
you healing, how much splash damage has he had, how much are you taking from
creeps, when are you expecting to fight, does he have high value dispell
targets? Because three priests is better because not only is it lost protection,
maybe you lose two priests you still have the third. It also gives you more healing whereas
the dispel upgrade really only helps if you're actively dispelling. So priest count is a form
of army-sized greed whereas dispel is very purpose driven and there's no one correct answer it's
contextual whether you dispel after one priest after two after three or after four.
Aim, you might not even know if it's a blade yet either, right?
Correct.
But you do know there's a fire secret.
So speed scroll and wolves are a guarantee.
Right, okay, okay.
The wolves are actually surprisingly annoying still later on.
Yeah, yeah, look, wolves, when undispelled, are OP all throughout the game.
When they're dispelled, they become a liability.
But it's your responsibility to make them a liability, which would then become his
responsibility to stop summoning them. Once you've proven that they don't get value.
Would he also use the retraining book at some point?
He wouldn't because the third spell for Farseer is Batox.
Okay, what is it?
It's Farseid. It's a zero mana cooldown based reveal like orbital command scan,
which sounds pretty good, but it doesn't help that much in combat.
What he would do is Farseer gets three, Wolves are still good, summon several sets of level
two Wolves, Farseer becomes level four, you've shown aptitude at dispelling Wolves, he will
now save mana for on cooldown chain lightning spam.
And then Farseer gets level five, he will take chain lightning level three.
would you like another against this individual to tie it all together more in me I think
yes
I feel a little discouraged if we're getting owned like five times harder in the second
game than the first one but but you did better
yeah I guess that is true I guess you attacking earlier with Monte King 2 actually destabilized
him more because he had half a taran, whereas the next time you played, he had two to three
taran with pulverize. So even though you've got your MK goal. So in theory, if you want
to, you could try to be more aggressive with an earlier lower level mantecing. So long as
you know, the purpose is MK three, but you could act on information that he needs and
benefits more for the time than you do.
Right.
And that would be based on scouting you would do in the
future. You never get armor upgrades. You double floor. Um,
well, I think it's better you get heal pots and make sure mk
is the only recipient of tarant damage by kiting back and
offering manta king. Armor upgrades are ignored by pulverize.
Okay, yep.
And also it means that rifles are getting hit, which of course very much can happen and will happen.
And yes, you should get them, but not before two attack upgrades.
You're doing a lot more shooting with MKs than getting hit.
And Clap is also a damage mitigation tool by him attacking slower.
So if you're constantly clapping, you ain't even taking that much auto attack damage at all.
It makes armor upgrade even worse.
Right, yeah.
I think it says a no usable route to the server.
Yeah, you need to restart W2 Champions, I think.
Okay.
Yeah, I was having some weird disconnects and lag messages and stuff before.
Makes sense.
Every time I open it, it says my network change detected.
Oh, maybe you have a dynamic IP from your provider. I don't know.
Looks okay again.
Yeah.
Nice.
48.
Alright.
Right.
See if I can survive the wolf.
Okay.
Honestly, that will be a success for me.
If I'm happy with my defense against the wolves, I would already be happy.
Yeah.
You sent me the pig race.
By the way, pretty incredible that you have only 48 ping to US West.
That can't be right?
I mean, I am West Coast.
Oh, please.
I forgot.
You're not in NL?
No.
I'm West Coast, Mexico, basically.
Okay.
Excellent.
Yeah.
I think I remembered it now.
Yeah.
The other day on your tournament, you're like, I'll let you go.
It's late.
And it was like 1pm.
Okay.
Let's go.
Yeah.
All right, let's go, yeah.
Them's number three.
Stark is still shacking him hard.
Yeah, he is for now.
He's got your thermals number.
But this is the headliner game.
Imagine it goes worse again, and I say that he did better again.
Like that was your best game yet and he just lost like shit.
That means I'm coaching him around.
I'm feeling that this orange camp is my camp.
How would you rate your thermal progress so far for today's coaching?
The headliner.
The tournament was awesome.
Thank you for always providing great content.
A pleasure.
Thank you so much.
How would I rate his progress?
He and I will only feel good about this if he does significantly better with results.
So far, we've done a lot of theory and we've added habits, but he won't feel like it's
really been worth it unless it leads to a win or optimization, like that it goes well
actually when he plays other org ladder games.
It's not there yet.
I feel like progress is good, but that's not good enough if he's still losing everything.
In fact, he could be doing worse than before.
We need the dub, even though it shouldn't be results-based, and science isn't results-based
here for Warcraft, but morale is results-based.
So for the emotional component to this, victory would be good.
But not if it means that Starkey played poorly.
I hope Starkey keeps playing as well as he did before,
because then it will be real.
I think we get there, I think we get there.
It's like changing your golf swing,
you'll get worse at first,
even if you're gonna massively improve over time.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, that's one thing I had to learn too,
big delicious Seekow.
When I started target practice,
which is a term for when you specifically address
certain skill improvements,
rather than playing a bitter game overall, target practicing your macro or your production
during battle. When I started target practicing production during battle a long, long time
ago, and it's not like I don't need it anymore, because you got to work on all your skills.
When I started doing that, I immediately became worse at battle, because I kept in the forefront
of my active working memory, I kept in my forefront of my memory, make units during battle.
And it was such a dominant voice, because if it wasn't dominant, it would be ignored.
Like it was always getting ignored.
Because I was always forgetting to make units during battle.
So in order to remember it, I had to make sure it's something that I was singing or
saying out loud.
I got horrible because of it and that was worth it I would pull these two
Melissa here and he does but he shouldn't block himself when doing it but
this is great this is already a lot better okay instant improvement
It's blacksmith is late, which is terrible, but mine was later, which is horrible.
That's why I started off on my first pre-dance, this.
So, it's blacksmith, blacksmith is still earlier than mine.
Great initial defense, this is amazing, this is amazing.
Very low on lumber now.
This does a couple of work, it's not working.
Look, look at this, Starky, so nice to surround, but such a good surround by Starky.
If he sends Elemental here, oh he's almost got the Farsier, that's great.
Good, good, he's manning up.
Excellent.
So now, if I could tell you Thermal to do, it would be to get Boots and to chase Farsier
at home.
And even if he doesn't get Boots, he should still chase the Farsier for cancelling the
Heal Solve.
Yeah, especially the Lumbermine, I missed the trees a bunch and stuff.
It is acceptable if Grubby does the same.
He can hear you or what?
No, no, no, no, I mute it.
Whoa, Grunt went in.
He tried to surround.
You can tell he tried.
It's okay.
Missed opportunity?
Yeah.
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
He needs one more farm.
He's getting it.
Yeah, he didn't lose any peasants?
Oh, my.
This is a special moment for him, didn't lose peasants.
He should just creep this.
There's no poison guy, I believe.
One footy?
That's a pick.
That was a surround, Starki did well there.
Okay, Montyking, Rifle, Arcane Sanctum.
He needs 10 more lumber.
Okay, Brilliance.
Item.
You got Brunis, there's the Sanctum, two peasants, Rifle, he's higher level than Farsir, which is nice.
I think Farsir every time he shows up, now he needs to kill the wolf that's ensnared.
That's funny.
Wolf cannot be resound yet, so you got that experience, right?
MK is almost out, hopefully he will remember to pull Militia to take either the golden
shop or the laboratory.
Nice wolf targeting, this is great.
Very good.
Oh this is night and day, this is so much better.
What do you think Logan?
It's amazing, no?
The players' forces are under attack.
He did a little scout with the footy, MK is out, Militia!
Militia!
Militia! Wait!
Three games, one demo, and two analysis.
There's like four to five iterations.
I was gonna put it up in the XP, I guess.
Four to five iterations of pull Militia when Montipin comes out, and it's still hasn't...
You don't put it down. It didn't pull it down.
No, that's fine.
You don't want to pull this down because then you give vision to an enemy that comes by and also you have
miss chance when you shoot a gun that's here.
Ah, the militia, right?
Ahhhh!
Haha.
It's a tough one to remember so hard.
It's still okay if you didn't pull, but now you have to pull militia into the middle,
because it's a possible contest area.
Or into this camp.
It's not too late to pull militia.
Let's see, rifle, he has a range upgrade already.
Okay, he's pooling now.
No, he's not.
They were just naturally returning lumbered.
Oh, clearly maybe. That looks okay.
Decent bolt, preventing poison from spreading, but he's creeping together with AM.
No, I don't think that's why I say so.
Dispel.
No, I should have uh...
At least he knows.
I forgot about that.
he'll be able to work on these lessons
okay he's getting into the dispel already on three priests that's nice
he's getting attack upgrades
he gave away this by the way this is a stark example of what happened between the militia
what do you know, the militia pool?
it's about the pool that he just passed above
if he had militia pooled he would have shown up here
I got my camp though, that's not good
before the creeps were dead but he didn't buy a heal score in full
I was running, any one more camp?
No, just go!
Try to steal this one.
Okay, maybe it's okay.
Just take one more camp.
Maybe it's okay, actually.
Because you're forcing someone to come to you.
Nice.
Just keep creeping, or hit blade, storm bolt and hit blade.
Oh, he bought heels for info, I see.
Here you want to target down overseer and then bolt it to confirm the kill.
If you need to bolt it.
That's the kind of sick bolt, even though he's over-bolting, but it's actually kind of okay.
Clap?
Oh, he dodged the clap.
This spell again, nice.
I think I can kill this.
He has Envolved.
Twin Click.
Oh, the healing.
Pain.
Uh oh.
Oh, I don't have my items yet.
Just keep running and he'll live. If he tries to circle and stay, he dies.
He got him too.
Um... TP, TP, TP, TP, TP!
Oh no.
That's not where I wanted him to go.
So far he lost his AM without TPing, 3 times in a row, 3 games.
So if I focus on just 3 feedbacks, it will be TP AM, it's about to die.
No, I decided to deny one of my dudes.
Let's see how the MK finish.
Maybe I could have healed him with the Priest.
The hero made this mistake too by the way chat. Whenever a hero was about to die, he
starts circling around his own army over and over again. He starts circling over and over
and over. He was never willing to just go all the way home or anywhere to Africa to Antarctica.
supply of leave your army if it's winning and send the one hero as far away
heroes that's crazy
okay I need you to pull militia into the attack I don't have mad priest but I don't
feel like I have any damage in here that's a lot of priests six place good
level 3 first. So I think he loses to the next right armor. By now there's two
many torrents. Three torrents with pulverized full health and he has six
priests so I think he has no chance anymore. I mean you should have a chance
right? If you lose two heroes and you kill only one you're behind. You're playing
timing based and the game goes on and someone has two or three. I didn't even know it showed like that.
there we go and all the damage items should be on am now we go again and
pray if he was going to go again the orange cap he should have taken should
have kept him near the orc not all the way on his own side of the map like he
was able to just come out of his base and own me because in the other games
you have to be kind of scared you should have done marketplace or the enemy lab
There's my homie.
So he has 600 gold right now, he didn't buy his full inbill.
He did a knock knock attack, which is bad.
Here's our agus.
That is recalling.
That's Clap Potential.
This is Shadow, oh wow.
Surrounded by Torrents.
He lost.
It's over.
He didn't move.
Clap on the single Farsier.
He's dying Potential looks like.
Clap on the single Farsier.
Oh, he's targeting the shadow with the shadow as an invul
Invul fuck, oh my god
I feel like this army has no damage
My biggest damage is this spell
I also forgot my items, okay?
That's tough, man
The orcs, the orcs
Lose hope not, friend
That's hard, it's hard to not lose hope
Yeah
let's go through the replay yes this was your last game but you will
marinate on this currently you have the recency debuff you will marinate on
this no doubt in your ladder games yeah become clear
we start epic pen
I didn't lose a peasant though, to the wolf, I think, let's freaking go.
We're in this awkward spot where you are gradually improving at a pretty fast rate in implementing
a lot of the new habits, but we're missing the morale buff of actually commuting it into
a victory.
And we are not logical creatures, only we're emotional.
So right now you're feeling like you're barely getting better or barely getting better results.
But you have improved many aspects of your play.
We're just not getting the buff because Starkey is also playing well and is not letting up.
You know, sometimes there's practice partners that start easing up because they start feeling
guilty beating you up.
I'm glad he's not doing that.
Yeah.
I've had that dilemma before actually.
me too. I remember I can name him you know you remember Snoop? Yeah. He's a very emo
guy. The one time I played him when he was practicing for BlizzCon and I was kind of
wiping the floor with him and I was like should I let him win? I don't know what to do and
then like after he was like oh yeah there's no hope I'm going to get destroyed and I was
No, no, no, I'm not done.
And how did his BlizzCon go?
He lost.
And is it because you demoralized him, or he just wasn't playing well enough, you think?
Hard to know, of course.
I mean, he had really good opponents as well.
Like, he lost 1-2 against Ty, I think, which is...
Oh, yeah.
Like, it was winnable, but it was a tough match anyway.
So I don't think I ruined his life, no.
Yeah.
What went well here? You hit the farce here. You pre-pulled Melissa when you saw wolves are going in
They go from zero armor to three they go from medium hundred fifty percent to hundred percent heavy
so all in all so much better
You're taking
62% less damage or something
Or let's say no, that's not correct. That's not correct. You're not taking like 60% bonus damage
is you're taking 30% less damage.
Here I would pull this militia up a bit to reduce the full attack rate uptime of a wolf into the hurt one.
Yep.
That's nice.
The units on Farsier, I think you can feel that's a very successful formula.
Yeah, that was nice. I made it harder for him to more than adjust the damage.
Yeah, one thing you'll notice is that when you hit enemy range zero, when you both have a range, when you hit their range zero
At the same time the amount of autos your archmage gets from this FS drops to zero or very few
Sometimes sometimes you're like constantly trying to do all these fancy footwork to and as far as here just keeps being like
This happens
I like you post this was this was easily the best I've ever defended farce here. Oh
So that's nice
There's a couple misclicks. I don't know what happened. I
Pulled some militia. I tried to send them back, but they didn't go back. Yeah, one militia one number present here
Yeah, I think these guys as well here
I was hoping you would pull these two militia when these guys were impending and you did exactly that
Which was so nice that you already instinctively felt this was correct
The only problem is that you wedged your archmage here, which would then body block your peasants
So you should have moved archmage like so
Right and then here so that the militia could become your shield here in theory
You could be hit several times by wolf or grunt and then getting blocked. I
I realized that it was happening. I was like, oh no, what did I just do?
Yeah, okay. But the militia pool itself was great. Now this is an over chase.
Now these are the ones that I thought I'd send back.
Got it. Got it. All good.
I don't know what happened to them. Maybe I shift click by accident or something. I don't know.
Okay. All good. That is then not a theoretical mistake. And that's what I'm here to help with.
Footman chasing, Farseer is awesome.
AM being a gun turret, like a turtle that sticks its neck out of the shell here is fantastic.
The moment Wolf looked at you, you turned around, which was so good.
It's going to be an instinct very soon, I'm afraid.
What?
It's going to be an instinct very soon, I'm afraid, with how hard they've owned me.
Oh yeah.
Well, it wasn't there yet until we went through the theory today.
Yeah.
Very nice.
adaptation from the coaching. Yeah, here this is above Ilo, maybe
surround by him, it's very nice, but also you let it happen, there should be
cycling around like that, but it's not a big deal.
Cut him back a little bit with this one, right?
And then I thought you should put your alley here to what duration.
So you did everything you can, except denying the footie, but it's still very good for you.
I love that you allowed yourself to get autos by the very thing that I said you should avoid
because you analyzed there's something more worthwhile and you're cutting forward so you
won't have that much surface time from the auto attacks.
Chasing here was absolutely correct, it was very good.
And there's three choices here let's say, you could just forget about him and go somewhere
else.
you had 200 lumber now, you could let them go, pull for a militia and creep your natural.
Anytime someone shows you what they're going to do and you can predict how long it would
take them, as a human, you can do a militia creep pull.
So what he's saying right now, I'm going to go home, that's going to take 15 seconds,
then I'm going to buy a heal solve, then I'm going to heal myself, then I don't want to
get hit for a while. So I might move passively, like defensively, go around the corners in
the map. But even if he comes back to you immediately, that's 15 seconds, 15 to get
back here and another 10 to get here. So he's 40 seconds away. That means you militia creep
your natural with no contest. And that's a good thing, because you know he's most likely
not going to take two creep camps in the next 40 seconds. He's going to go back and heal
self and then go somewhere. He could creep this if he's very daring.
Even with this lumbar count later on? No, no, no, not with this lumbar count. That's
not an option right now. You can't militia pool at the moment. Here, you would creep
this with AM, FTN and one alley. You creep only the turtle, get level two and then go
to him, for instance. Okay. I thought the wolves would just keep
annoying me and I would have to give it up if I would do that.
that's true that's true it's only because wolves are almost finished that
that's even an option hmm but you didn't know that yet okay so yeah so I'm
responding and I ran away I think did he respond I don't think so but here so
one thing you can add to your build it will cost you one rifle by boots the
boots will be given to your MK when MK comes out if MK becomes a storm bolt
bolt chaser person because there's action on your side of the map when MK comes out.
Then bolt, boots will help him get bolts, whereas no boots, no bolts.
Because every time you bolt, you're stationary for a second to throw the hammer, and so the
boots allows you to chase and bolt over and over, right?
Okay, yeah.
Also, it is pretty good on AM because you become a better mobile gun turret, better stutter
that more auto attacks, higher damage uptime, and in fact superior movement over farce here.
In this particular case, if you walk like this,
and you buy boots. Oh yeah, I could have just cooked him if he wouldn't be able to heal.
Correct, correct. And that means that either he will end up dying,
or you will cancel his salves over and over with that movement speed.
Yeah, he's probably higher than his base, right?
Yes, he will run past the shop, heal solve, and then he will go here and fill his burrows.
When you have boots, he has to do it like that. Another thing he could do, heal solve,
go here, and then heal solve and then TP here to get as much uptime as possible from the
heal solve. But actually, he won't make it home. Oh yeah, he did summon wolves.
Yeah, same same idea as I told you about the seven eight nine minute timing push
Because he is low he will heal solve and therefore there's something to gain for you 33 gold autos
He's low he's gonna heal solve that means there's something you can stop his pep talk. It doesn't just have to be during the push
At any time, if you know someone's about to heal Solve, you can follow them and just hit them.
And then I would just creep with MK anyway, MK plus Militia, I guess, even if I'm not there with
Argonich. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You can do that with AM 1, 2 or 3. Just don't bring it back.
Because now, because it's too early, you don't have Militia to pull. You are in the time waster mode.
you're not in the value mode if you had militia you could be in the value mode
much love and to everyone you need you need a hobby no matter how boring you
would collect button caps like bottle caps right now okay sorry if there's any
bottle cap enjoys maybe it's really fun but yeah you're looking for any small
hobby and in this case he's showing you he's about to heal self and that's a
I guess the wolf scared me off.
You tried to surround him, it was a nice try.
Here you went for this camp, it was nice.
You leveled up, mounted the king, rifle, macro was all good, you did everything you needed to.
You turned around every time he came and hid in.
You got the ensnare wolf attack, gave you experience, tried to get the other wolf.
You almost got it. Keep attacking wolves, correct.
There's no point attacking Farsi here because he has heal solve. It's better to reduce his total DPS and activity
by attacking wolves
So you did everything
Well here and this was all worth it because you got three wolves
Here the moment is running the chase has stopped
His wolves were freshly summoned and freshly killed
wolves
take
Wolves last
60 seconds, and their resummoned CD is 30 seconds.
Okay, that's quite a lot.
Yeah.
So, he summoned, and then immediately used them.
That means you're in the first 30 seconds, you killed them in 10 seconds.
It means it takes 18 to re-consummon them again.
That means right now he doesn't exist, and you can start creeping.
There's no point chasing, because your movement speed is the same.
So here I wouldn't wait for MK to hit the levels.
Yeah, because it's not either or.
Well, actually, you can start putting everything on 10%.
And then collect with Montaking.
Finish him over the level one clap for the style points.
So you don't waste much time, but you wasted some time potentially.
And here's still okay, but you want to pull Militia, and you forgot, and so this is something
that you're going to have to work on.
These were my tips for you this game.
Militia on Mantikin finishing.
Yeah, that's...
Yeah.
It's just something to work on for consistency.
You opened with the bolt, but you did one rifle auto-attack first.
Oh, okay.
Which means he got aggroed.
I thought I got it perfect this time actually.
No, you have to open with bolts and wait until it lands.
Not even throw bolts.
Oh right.
You have to wait until it lands.
Right, right.
So now he gets inner fire.
He's bolted during his cooldown regenerating for inner fire.
So it's the worst bolt timing.
It would have been better if you waited another three seconds or four.
Because now he's stunned and he can inner fire again now, but actually he had so much
damage he died.
So that makes it a good bolt again.
Good job.
My first good bolt all the way.
Ha ha ha.
This is good.
We pulled the rifle away from the golem.
Put him in dying, there's a monitor.
Okay, you got this next camp here.
So next time while Mantik is finishing.
Yeah.
pull this gap with AM while the AM is not sharing XP anyway, then you can engage them
here and it saves you time.
So you're racing essentially.
Yeah.
And you'll see exactly how much it matters to the race.
with with militia and the pool optimization you would have showed up
here when he begins it when he's halfway rather than he just finishes and it's
729 it's been available to buy hillscore info for nine seconds and he has
both now you thought you forgot the items but he had them so you couldn't
have had them and it all comes down to timing your tech wasn't late
mountain king wasn't ready which your creeping was slow and inefficient and
and therefore he got this
and nine second gap
nine seconds
oh my
here, uh, bolt on the ground would be fine
because you're almost full mana and it's a
free confirmed kill
which means exp
so I have made you two bolts allergic
gotta find the balance
yeah, gotta find the balance
okay
so here, uh...
possible angle, get the turtle, solo mount the king, you'll be 2.9 and then this spell
is level 3.
Sometimes green camps are worth it, especially he is showing he's going home, which means
he's going home for a pep talk, that means you have two choices, let him waste time standing
in his base waiting for an impending attack while you take one or even several creep camps
forcing him to come out and fight away from the voodoo lounge.
Yeah, the crazy thing here was that I you know you always have like a little bit
of automatic pattern recognition right so I saw him move I figured the way this
was gonna go was I was gonna attack in his base and he was gonna stand there
with his three heroes and it'd be the same thing I thought I could really get
the orange cam but then he attacked into me and it worked so it it threw off my
my entire expectation for how this was going to go.
Well, I think it's okay, but you forgot Melissa again.
So this is another note.
Whenever you go into enemy terrain
and you're ready to fight
and you know you're gonna have a conflict, pull Melissa.
And so here your options are.
We're almost a note about MK all the way home.
That's for later.
Oh, okay, I was trying to place it already.
So, you have several options here.
Flow and cancel heal solves and just start the fight in earnest.
Take multiple creep camps around the space, forcing them to attack into you.
Yeah, those are your options.
So, this turtle is fine, pulling this down, heal is fine, pulling this is fine, but let's
see how long it takes you.
It is fine, but you should have pulled it around the corner.
Well, that's fine, but you should pull it around the corner.
They will chase a duration outside of this circle.
Or maybe it's this circle.
It means that if you pull them here, they actually won't go home.
It's only if you pull them here, here, or here that they'll eventually go home and you
could lose a low guy, but you have Stormbolt to finish them off.
The problem with this is that when he comes in, you're still engaging the creeps and the
creeps are not necessarily engaging him and also he has a very quick angle to attack and
steal something.
But if you pull it around the vision, if you pull it around the trees, he loses vision
of it.
See?
He has no vision here.
The overseer can be here.
Your army stands here.
Good luck engaging into that.
He first has to muscle through these guys,
and then he doesn't even know how close you are
to finishing the overs here.
So now he doesn't know what he's fighting for.
So, and here, this is about positioning choice.
You chose to position here,
which is great for him, because it's a huge area.
Orc, especially with melee, wants large open areas.
and I know you know this in Starcraft,
but it just cannot connect like that
because you are overflowed by information,
but other things.
So excuse me if I'm explaining something
I know you already know, but this is your fight location.
Forces seem to go around in Warcraft engine units trip
when they go around terrain.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a good question.
I think I probably know why I walk this way.
Yeah.
Because if you run away from the units, if I go up, they would shoot me longer, the camp in particular.
But they're going to shoot him?
Yeah, I think that's what I thought.
If I go up here, my units would take more damage and I just wanted to get away and kind of force him to be in the camp.
And then I kind of wanted to engage him while the camp was also engaging him.
So your reasons are all correct, but all of those would be achieved better if you go here
And so despite location the positioning is too good for him, but it could still work
You already have this spell if you can land a close distance bolt on blade
go for it also you're not leveled up yet yeah and so 9 is painful as well what 2.9
on the arguments 2.7 on the mountain king is pretty painful oh yeah yeah that's true
but because you don't have clap 2 yet bolts are still your better spell so
until you get mounted king level up you don't even need to clap at all it's the
opposite knowledge now. Oh, okay. I see. So in this case, you're in a prime position
to bolt blade. So bolts can be blocked by invulplable to mirror image. But because you're
so close, he has very little time to react. You also have perfect surface area to fully
attack him. And his torrent is not on top of you yet. In order to do a clap, you would
need to spend three seconds walking to the center of the army to get a level one thumb
the clap which is ass and you're giving up the opportunity to hit for you for
your entire army to hit without even being hit back at all so you win the
fight right here he maybe shouldn't have come out you baited him with something
juicy the stealing of a camp and he came in he did get several creeps but you got
the big item and here you need to bolt the blade at close distance but you didn't
No, so you're hitting grunt
Say now image which means you can dispel MK goes away too far which offers Torrent position to hit your backline
MK is still pretty healthy
If things if shit hits the fan you're gonna TP you will TP and regen with priest for cheaper than he will
So even if both of you are leaving this fight with a bloody nose
Both of you killed nothing and you TP out
you still gain the bigger army than him because he will spend money to heal so
we're gonna increase the priority of using TP as a fight reset even though I
told you you need to be in a forever fight yeah okay so it's okay for
mountain king to keep this gap so that you don't give melee the range on your
rifles this spell is good bolt on blade is fine too targeting blade is good too
Clap was good but he dodged it. It was a very obvious clap timing and he actually did a
very skillful dodge on it, taking no damage. He is non-existent for half a second, so it
was just really well done by him. But your clap was good otherwise. Okay, one again,
hit the dispel again, which you did do. If the image is low, target it down with gunfire
instead of wasting another dispel on it.
Mm-hmm.
Bolt on Blade was cool, but you didn't check his items.
Yeah, I've never checked someone's items before, I think.
Yeah, that's very difficult to learn.
Here, I would do a box select on these three,
and move them left, because if you only move him, he's going to get stuck.
So here, you have to, essentially, it's like a drawer and a cupboard.
in a cupboard. That's how you move units to the backline in Warcraft 3. You open the whole drawer.
Right, okay. You slide this whole slice to the left.
So Torrance being on top of rifles is painful, so keep moving away low units. Of course,
I know you had a lot of other things on your mind.
You're still okay. So in this case, we're in this interesting situation
where you have roughly equal movement speeds between montyking and blades.
I do think you're maybe 10 or 20 slower. It's usually not
enough to catch you.
You got another priest heel. Usually here it's best just to go
all the way home.
So Hera made this mistake too, is that when a hero drops low, he starts walking circles around his army over and over.
But when walking circles, the attacker has a shorter circle to chase. So he can hit you here, and here, and here, and here.
I was kind of expecting my rivals to get him, but he's just having a heal right on time and stuff.
Yeah, he has a ring of protection, invul, and so on, yeah.
It's not like you're going to win this fight, even if you send MK away from the blade.
You're already too low, so TP time was like 5 seconds back for a reset, but honestly, you're going to lose even if you TP, I think.
I mean, assuming equal skill.
So where did this go wrong?
right at the beginning of the fight, and it's really hard to know, because when you play and I play it just looks so different,
but actually the tools are the same, the levels are the same, and so it's really hard to know why it went so wrong,
because I see torrents wrecking rifles, but it actually comes down to taking, and this is the beautiful thing about working through the art,
there's no like one rule fits all, every situation is different, and in this particular case, because the blade was in front,
was in front and then the other units were in the back. Therefore, it was a bolt and
focus angle. And that then gives you space that once he starts encroaching on you, and
he starts being around you, and you get this situation. That's when you want to move back
and then offer up a single unit again, like so. Because you don't want to be hugged. And
part of the reason you're getting hugged is because you chose open terrain instead of
around the corner. You chose white instead of narrow and your mountain king at the start
of the fight did this. Put himself here, then he got his melee whetched here and your range
is here. So a lot of it comes down to positioning and he hits hard when he gets to connect.
It's all about not allowing him to connect.
Hey, I did kill it in the end.
That's a bit particularly in my book.
Yeah, but all three games so far you haven't used TP to save yourself, so it's not fully in your system yet, or maybe the beginning view to debuff.
Yeah, maybe it's a little bit what you said, I don't have the moral boost yet, so in my
mind I still have to really kind of pop off and make things happen to win, you know.
But TPing is like saying you win.
Yeah, I understand, I understand.
So even though you may not feel it yet, remember that TP is a great tool for reset for a fight
that human uses very often in mini matchups.
For instance, you run out of mana with Manta king, you're pushing him and you're doing
amazing, but you run out of mana and you have no peasants in shop. TP, buy items from shop,
go again, can be very worth it. Demon Hunter mana burns the crap out of you and you lost
all your mana on your AM5 MK5. You still have a giant army, but by now bears are all the way
around your rifle breaker. You still have AD pop, TP. You TP with AD pop against a 65 pop army that
that surrounded you, because you just ran out of mana on your heroes.
So you don't like the rest of the progression of the fight.
You have two base versus two UTP, and you get two clarity pots on both heroes, and you go again.
It seems like you're going again with the exact same army you just ran away with.
Yes, that makes sense, but it's all because whether you have mana or not.
Yeah, I've noticed that the differences seem to be pretty small in that way.
Seemingly like it's uh, yeah, like for example some I mean more like I
Could I watch one of your replays that you send me you played against an orc right and then there's like obviously you play much better
But there are like a couple decisions that really changed things around like a fight where I would have been like okay
I'm gonna go all in you just kind of regrouped and did another camp and
Went again when you had some more sorceresses or whatever in that game, you know, yeah, it's like
Small decisions seem to make a pretty big impact as well.
Yeah, and it is very hard to know what's correct sometimes, and depending on your build choice, Warcraft 3 can feel like a very timeless game where you're not nearly as tied to timings like in Starcraft 2.
I'm showing you kind of an extreme timing attack, but the constraints of it are actually much wider than you may think, because even with an army that gets countered by Torrance,
what you have. Maybe if we keep testing, yeah? If we keep testing you against Starkey and let's say
proper mental and endurance and instead I tell you I want you to keep creeping your mountain king
and I want you to save up 2000 gold and stay at 50 population. You're going to keep creeping with a
50 pop army around the map and every time you see me TP and you buy TP you'll creep somewhere else.
Once you're at 2000 gold you go to 80 population with 2-2 rifle upgrades
and five priests and four sorghum like 12 rifles and a mountain king level four
and a half maybe you could suddenly win really hard without even believing
before that that could be possible and that could just happen yeah it's other
than the ways of work as a very murky where you don't understand why it's
happening you thought you were on the timing attack on a clock but you're
realizing actually you're not and the cool thing about you practicing is you
you create a goal where you're like,
I'm doing an eight minute timing attack
and I'm gonna kill him or I die, okay?
The next time you're like, I'm gonna creep forever,
no timing and that could just work.
That was actually my initial big MLM jump.
Because I had to decide to just never stop creeping.
But like, I didn't care where they were on the map
or what timing I should have,
I was just doing camps until
i had like a little item so they were like okay i'll attack now that was like my first big
elo jump
yeah if you're just creeping more
it depends on the army
let's say if you do that maybe you want to hit tier three on 50 pop and then get
inner fire and paladin, staff of sanctuary
everything else is the same
of course i think against the new torrents it's probably not a good idea but
it's worth trying
depending on if you're racing
in a sub x amount of game you want to get the x elo
Yeah, at this moment, you said you want MK three and ignoring everything else that happens so far. If you want MK three and then fight, you have options here, here, here, here, and here to get MK three, or even connecting to greens.
And if your goal is to attack after it should be one of the ones that are in a central location
Yeah, otherwise there's too much back and forth movement
Yeah, here my logic was that I just
Because I just got owned in the fight. I didn't think my army
would be able to compete so I was kind of afraid that if I would go to one on his side that he would catch me you know
but I guess MK3 safe basically that's that's what I was going for yeah in which case the follow-up attack wouldn't make sense either
and then we're doomed either way but I understand yeah the logic
Okay, yeah a little high on briscount.
Yeah I noticed that too.
You said oh he's recalling.
Yeah.
And after that it was a haste.
Recall maximum distance is about this much.
That means since you recognize the recall,
You need to offer a mountain king here.
Yeah, that's what I was going for.
I thought I could get the fattest underclap ever.
But you misjudged the distance.
It's my first.
Yeah.
This should be army.
And this should be MK.
That way you get a fat clap, but the rest doesn't get pulverized.
And you'll see what happens instead.
Yeah, I've already seen my first killing in there.
I couldn't get quite in the middle with the MK and then my priests were sad.
And he correctly speed scrolls, which is worth the spelling because it gains speed scroll.
In this moment, for melee against Rage, it's like a scroll to beast.
It's like a damage scroll because he closes the gap faster, so the spell is removing damage.
by torrents at this point it was over yeah or i could have tp'd you get to be
yeah true and though i was later it's tough now because he's got the levels
he's three three three so yeah i'm definitely behind let's say oh yeah and
this there's one more small mistake you made when you arrived you were already
doomed so that doesn't matter but you moved in with a move and you did a knock knock on the barracks
you fired one shot which means he gets alert our base is under attack
oh okay yeah or instead we want to delay the moment of the first attack as long as possible
and kill whatever matters most which is the voodoo lounge which will be his source of...
Oh there it was, I didn't see it.
Like he always, I feel like he always bloated there where that thing was in my head.
That was kind of what I was going for and I was like this is not a blue lounge but I'll kill it anyway.
Yeah, it's a recognition of course of things.
Now we have time to appreciate what Torrents do to backline when pulverized procs.
Do we have to see it?
Actually there weren't that many procs. They need to buff that spell.
What did you think?
Buffing orcs, not the cards for me.
Maybe after my first arc and for the next arc I'll pick orcs.
Don't forget how many things improved.
The tech, a little bit the victory, wind condition understanding, even though it didn't lead to that.
dispelling images, the knowledge of going into cancer solves,
goblinshop control, remembering to bring militia to creep with the mountain king,
class prioritization. We correctly illustrated that we were late.
This is when we arrived at the shop. This is when the shop items become available
and this is when you could have been there if you had crept more efficiently I I could tell them
you were like ooh a real world example of the importance of a few seconds yeah that's that's
cool it's very cool it's eye-opening for the rest I think uh Starkey played well also unusual style
and usually it's tarn chieftain on blade who I think he would actually be more okay against
funnily enough. Yeah, blade is hard for me. I feel like the attack prioritization in the fights,
it just doesn't feel natural because I kind of want to attack blade because it's low HP, but then
I do tend to get more mirror images than you think and you can dispel it every time. And then,
you know, I'm already talking for a couple seconds and then usually after those 10 seconds
are over, my rival and priest are kind of low HP and I'm like, yeah, the late makes it tough for
me for sure. Yeah. Okay, I'm very curious if you will experience improvement. My guess is yes,
because you have a playbook and many new improved habits. The morale buff isn't there yet, but I
I suspect it'll come at some point soon. And if not, we can always look again.
Yes. I also do think that, uh, was it Sparky or Starkey?
Starkey. Starkey. I think it actually went quite well, honestly, compared to the usual 1500s I meet.
I agree. I think it was in the zone today. Yeah, I think so too.
Thank you very much, Starkey, for the games.
Thank you Starky. Thanks for ruining my life, Matthew.
I'm just kidding, just kidding.
Okay.
Right. I guess I shouldn't keep you from AOE too any longer.
It's over. You cooked my training for today.
I'm sabotaging you right now.
I thought I was sabotaging you. I thought if I can show you a love for the game and get you hooked on this game longer,
longer than it is a successful taking out of a big challenger for the A2 tournament.
But you're already higher elo than me, so me losing this time today was actually a reverse
sabotage.
But that's funny because you lost a bunch of games.
Yeah, I'm experimenting for sure.
I played three games so far and the first one I lost to a guy, no wait, the first one
I won, my opponent didn't manage to find his sheep and he left, the second game I lost
to a guy, A moving me with six villagers at the start of the game.
What?
Did this not work?
Well, I did it against me, and then the third game I actually won in a decent game, so
maybe I still have it.
You still have it.
Yeah, yeah.
But this was a lot of fun.
Yeah, thank you.
first proper coaching you and I did together for Warcraft? True actually, the last one you
told me had to move the mouse basically. Yeah, true. It's almost two years ago already, time flies.
It is and you didn't like it that much, your first look of the game or you weren't ready for it at least?
Yeah, no it's not that I didn't like it, I just, I don't know, for some reason
I didn't feel like the time was right or something, I'm honestly not sure what it was, but I was very excited to play.
That mirrored my experience, first of all with many games, that the second time I'm more open to it, because I need time to get used to something new.
But also, it mirrored my experience with Warcraft 3 itself, and for my brother too, and for Cass too, that the first look is like, feels very low on excitement compared to Starcraft.
And then the next time you're like, ah, this is where the doors to the creativity of the fight and the game flow open up and
There's all these nuances and intricacies about the flow of the game. It's a lot of fun
They can take it doesn't show its secrets to everyone in the game
Yeah, I think correct me if I'm wrong. I think we also both had it with aoe too
Yeah
Yes, right the first time I played I the reason I played was
because it was like two months before AE4 was getting released and I kind of wanted to
just know how Age of Empires works, right?
And I was just, you know, with classic losing games because my wall was barely not complete
or whatever.
And I was like, okay, I've had enough of this.
And then six years later, five years later, I tried that again, and I was like, oh, that's
actually pretty cool.
Yeah, maybe we're a little similar in that, in that the first time so much is new that
it's difficult to enjoy because it's there's some frustration, there's some expectations
that aren't being met. But the next time when you kind of remember what it's like, and you're
actually choosing for it instead of just going in with like, oh, I'm just going to try it.
But now you're choosing for it. And you already kind of know what it is. So you're actually
gonna pick it at the moment where you're ready for it that's where you end up
enjoying it yeah okay all right I think I'm gonna try a couple games actually yeah
good luck and then now let you know how it goes sounds good oh I'm gonna be
stalking your match history like 17 losses to working around how funny would
be if every game you play against orc after coaching that goes worse and worse
i kind of spiral sometimes to be fair it happens like what a what a raving recommendation of
my coaching i did everything you told me to grabby look demonstrably and it gets worse and worse
are you training me wrong as a joke
keep in mind you chose this build I said you needed to go mountain king mass
griffins I mean you wanted this build so I'm teaching it to you mountain king
man griffin no I didn't I didn't tell you that but it is very possible that you
may actually benefit more from like a AM3 rush build it's easier than yeah
maybe but you chose this for now we work on this and if you end up falling out of
love with this because it has no vogue since you're only losing. We can always have a follow-up
coach session where I teach you the powers of AM3 rush and the economic intricacies that follow
that up. Okay, thanks for the coach man, it was a little fun. I'll catch you in AV2 probably.
Yep, sounds good. See you soon.
See you my friend.
Good guy. Good guy and fun.
I do actually have time to run some AV2 as well.
These days, this W2 Champions is actually down, unlucky for him.
I have time to play one or two games of AV2 because I currently don't have a Netflix subscription.
And we are in between show addictions, Cas and I.
And sometimes when we've been binging Telly off the stream,
we have a small period where after stream we just go to sleep,
which is very boring.
It's not like half an hour or an hour of watching Shell,
but in return we gain some extra time.
And then later when we're like, we need some time to relax after stream,
to stream and enjoy each other's company in that way. Then we go back to getting a subscription.
We just finished Andor, which is quite nice.
We just finished Andor.
And our subscription ended to Disney. So we're on a small break in between.
Season 2 of Hunches is out. Actually, I don't know what it is. You know I have Hunches now,
I have chickens. End of Season 2 was big times, yeah, it was good. We actually started watching
Rogue Player One. No, not Rogue Player One, sorry. Rogue, the Andor's prequel sequel.
Rogue One, pilot Rogue One or something. Rogue One, yeah. But our sub ended in the
middle of the film so we're like halfway and also we've watched all of
Severance except the final episode all of Severance it was amazing we're such a
fan and we just didn't watch the final episode and we never remedied the
situation because getting us up again for one app feels weird but before I
play my two ladder games of a we two and we don't know how it ends one day we'll
watch it like five years later before we go I have to walk my dog okay so I play
two games but walk dog first are you not getting enough don't know how you know
it's not it's not about the money though another church prime now would be
really nice if anyone has one but it's more about not just there's something
There's something about not getting 5 TV subs, and not forgetting about them, thank you, I appreciate it, Jojo.
There's something about not getting 5 TV subs simultaneously and forgetting about them.
There's something about, there's a scarcity simulation, when you get a subscription to a show, to a channel,
and then making full use out of it for 30 days, knowing it's gonna end soon.
that makes it so much more fun focusing on squeezing the value until that
deadline because things that are infinite don't have the same value for
your severance finale thank you thank you very much orange animals
tie fall it's kind of like if you have a lot of food enough for three days you
put all of it on your plate. That feels like an assignment, but if you put 10
spoons and you know you can go for seconds and thirds, that feels good.
I'm gonna go for seconds and thirds. Artificial scarcity for your own pleasure
is a good thing. It's not about the money, it's about adding value to your
occupation. Hey, thank you for the tier 2 sub, Bunky. Thank you, everyzik. That's why we get a sub,
and then when it ends, we take pause, and we manually restart it, or switch service.
Grubby, I don't agree. Just watch the show. Why do you need to make this show or watching,
especially scarce? You can just not watch. Why do you need to force yourself?
I already explained it, if you don't get it, you don't get it.
It's very unpar with what something I did as a kid.
As a kid sometimes I was lying in bed, I would then get out of bed, lie on the floor without
pillow and without blanket and I would be cold and I would imagine myself to be so poor
that I had no bed, no mattress, no pillow, no blanket.
When I role-played, I pulled off the blanket off the bed and it was like as if a good Samaritan
gave it to me.
But it was me, actually.
I did that.
But in my imagination, someone said, oh, you poor thing, gave me a blanket.
Put the blanket on me and I was so grateful.
My bones were still painful because I'm on the floor.
But I was like, at least I have a blanket.
And then slowly I would grab the pillow.
I'd be like, oh my God, I have a pillow and a blanket even though I'm lying on the floor,
but I'm so grateful for it.
And then eventually a good Samaritan would pull me on the bed and be like, sleep here
in the bed, take the blanket and pillow with you.
And then I was so contented and happy, and was in the exact same spot I was there five
minutes before.
The same blanket, the same bed, the same pillow, but now I appreciated the fuck out of it.
That's why I edged my subscriptions.
Think about that.
I'll be back in three minutes.
Three minute ads because that guy just now doubted my methods.
sub should start edging your resub all on the same day
EG 28th of each month, so Grubby gets his fix.
Grubby did Anderike cry, I cried twice, I don't really do that ever.
And no, no it didn't.
It didn't.
You know what Phil made me cry?
Spanglish.
Spanglers by Adam Sandler.
Adam Sandler makes such emotional movies.
He's such a hard hitting artist.
For a movie film, understandable?
You think so?
Not many do.
Ethiopians, I know my opponents.
Okay, I have been so aimless in my games ever since I came back to AV2 for my 2 month break.
I just let people do whatever they want with me.
I'm back to no-making army, Andy.
Just before Harris' coaching hit.
It's so bad.
And I'm sick of it.
can I do better? I've dropped so much MMR guys, so much Elo. Elo not in all caps. This
is actually a name you know. It's a name of a person. It's not an acronym. Elo Arpat
This is his name. I know that. I can go Milo because...
Alright, let's find the other sheep. This is a chicken game.
I actually like to call it Chicken Arabia.
This is cute little name I thought of. It's like when you're playing on Arabia
And it's a chicken game instead of deer
Let's make our houses
We're going to see Ethiopians, so I'm expecting archer play, and as a result, I would like to open with scouts into skirmishers.
I could open Minotarms, but I feel like I'd be giving him exactly what he wants.
So, scouts into skirmishers seems like the right play. The only problem is, I suck at scouts.
But my solution for that is just don't suck.
We have to go further beyond than we ever have.
Oh I think we're near him actually.
I saw the four gold.
There's the two gold.
Is he actually bottom left?
Is it possible for him to be bottom left?
There's no way for him to be bottom left, alright?
There's chickens here too, funnily enough.
I did a horrible thing.
I killed an elephant.
It's a majestic creature, but more than that I killed it far away.
I knew it was near, there's an unacceptable moment.
I've never had scout coaching and I can't think much for myself because I'm a mail model.
So I have no idea, and I haven't looked up a build order, I have no idea what scout coaching
is going to be like.
Not scout coaching, scout build order, but I'm just going to do my best guys.
Do my best and stay positivity.
We have to stay positivity and try to control them well and don't focus on killing, but
focus on not dying.
Okay, I have a few seconds idle time, it is where it is.
Oh, it's because I had a villager production, I thought I cancelled that shit, man!
I thought I cancelled that shit!
Oh, at least that was an idle.
I think I'm gonna go back to the base and get some rest, but I don't think I'm going to be able to do that.
I'm going to go back to the base and get some rest, but I don't think I'm going to be able to do that.
I'm going to come
I'm coming
Nice, scout has been nice and active
I'm going to go to the left
I'm going to go to the right
I'm going to go to the left
I'm going to go to the right
I think I can make one farm.
He's getting a lot of wood.
I guess that's normal.
Let's see if he's getting gold yet.
He is getting some gold.
good chickens
are you fucking sweatlord?
Where are you going?
I don't even see his barracks. It's kind of weird
Oh, I don't see his barracks, it's weird.
It's first mistake.
That always happens.
Okay, no villager attack apparently.
I thought I made a house sometime ago, I don't know why I get the stupid sound, the sound
I hate the sound we all hate. Why villager attack? You stupid ass. Oh, you stupid idiots.
it as idiots. Why are you still going to the front line, villagers? It was open.
Oh
Good for me
I think that did so much for me actually.
喂?
见不见?
准备就绪?
见不见?
何种命令?
请,为,伐木伐木工
神望,尊敌,平安,
何种命令,麻,保,正确,伐木工
We have all kinds of weapons.
We can do some running, running, running.
We can save them.
What?
What kind of weapons?
What?
The right one.
Ready to go.
We can save them.
What?
We can save them.
Who?
We can save them.
Oh
I
GG, nice game.
well this is a game like I've never had before
it's very messy
oh my god
okay that I've had before
20 villagers in production I had before
Gigi, yeah, Gigi
yeah
well that's cool
I don't mind, I don't mind it's fine
also nice wall bro
It's like they got tired building the wall.
You still hate to play scouts?
He put all the food into the villagers.
Well, you know, I had scouts unupgraded.
I don't have any upgrades for them.
You had 15 builds and 1 TC.
No, I got 3 TC now.
But let's talk about what went well.
Out micro with the manganelles.
I scout.
I went scouts, his Ethiopians, I knew his sieve.
I even did a little bit of relic collection,
although it was idle for an extremely long time,
but at least I remembered a bit.
I went for a defensive workshop because I saw him moving out
and that was correct.
I went mass skirmishers against Ethiopians.
It was both theoretically correct as well as for what he did,
which was mass archers.
I got ballistics before him, not too late.
So, decent farm economy. I thought about what I wanted to go for early, which is actually having a plan, which is scouted into skirmishers.
I probed a hole. The skirmishers, he had a small hole in his wall and we exploited it.
I was behind in score when I went in with skirmishers. And after the skirmishers were dead, I was ahead in score.
So, whatever I did with the skirmishers like denying income, distress, etc. that got us
to be ahead.
The raids were really well done.
Yeah, it was nice.
He made zero nights.
Nights will clean up your army, Grubby.
Yeah, he's Ethiopians.
They're not allowed to make nights.
They're only allowed to make archers.
But look, I knew he was 1TC initially, of course eventually at more, but initially he's 1TC double archery range workshop.
I knew that I saw that, so there couldn't be knights yet.
And of course eventually he could have it, and I would have had no answer.
I would probably go cap archers or something, because I already have 3 range plus the upgrades.
I think that's fine.
Right?
Eventually I would just have to go calf archers.
I'm very exploitable though.
There's holes everywhere that you could probe.
But it is where it is.
It was a high pressure game.
I saw all these units and if he made knights, yeah, I guess monks could help in defense.
That's true.
Monks, full walls, and then calf archers and eco up.
Rubby you should collab with famous player Hera for Warcraft 3.
Sounds good.
You have plenty of time to fix the whole one ship full map control?
No.
I had no time.
I was very busy.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, before we go on, can we get a little morale boost?
Wait, I think I found game already, never mind.
I'll take the morale boosting game.
Hera said Warcraft is 100% more tilting because there's a lot of cheesy strats in Warcraft.
Do you agree?
I and my Persian douche-ass agree.
I love getting Fast Castle Conquistadors and not knowing how to counter it.
Fast Castle Oregon Gun, Fast Castle everything, the Phosphoroo.
You see what he's doing?
You try the tower but it's too late already.
There's no cheese here, for sure, 100% agree.
In fact Warcraft 3, I'd never get cheese.
It's impossible to get cheese.
It's a, it's a, it's a matter of game.
Oh, Ethiopians again.
There is no cheese in Warcraft.
none it only works at low elo but a we two is so cheesy man arena up the tart
break in with menid arms and rams sounds like that hero guy doesn't know
what he's talking about unbelievable
Uh, Grubby, sorry sir, it's worker 3 related, but what do you think about Blade Mirror
Farm, Shadow Mask, Wizard of La Plasamon?
It's okay, it has weaknesses, particularly against Dispel and Blade Focus, but it's
a cool build.
I think you definitely win games with that.
Looks like a solid wood line.
What are we doing, bro?
He's one of those. Oh, you fucker. Guys, what do I do? It's over.
I told you, it's a cheesy game.
What's if he's even... Ethiopians doesn't do this.
As far as I'm concerned, it's stream sniper behavior.
Don't know where he went.
Push your deer and you're good.
Yeah, I kind of have to.
or do you think I can steal some of his food?
I'm already so far on the map.
You gotta loot here now, yeah.
Sucks.
Well, I don't even know its base, so whatever.
We'll just play the whole game on hard mode.
He's the fun police.
Is that bad one animal?
It's 350 fruit.
It's very bad.
I've not been able to age up before because of something like that.
This is four of these.
Guess I overload the berries a little bit.
with four of these, ain't even that bad, ain't even that good too, but it works.
I'll prepare one extra farm, because I had one extra villager on wood, which is an adaptation
to getting my boar stolen, since there's not that much food anyway.
Okay, Grubby, how's your own progress?
Feeling ready to share Senghu's boss?
Not yet.
I have to second-attack at the normal time, then I've been focusing on long-term improvements,
in other words, losing.
Oh, good.
Guess I'll do a scout rush.
That's like a run it into the berry guys too
Oh
Very high on food unnecessarily, low on wood.
Maybe that second farm was terrible.
Yeah, it was.
You bet your ass it was.
I think one spear first.
Are you enjoying Hcraft?
Oh, very much.
I love this game.
Not good, what is this, what is this?
head. But too frustrated. Should have gone Lith Fas Castle. Gigi, what plate? Bore, steel,
to no wall on important resources
and I don't know what he's doing so I guess I should just make a wall if I
don't know what someone has
you should have just dropped an archery early field of play skirm, just defensive skirm
means I'm only not safe against scouts
I guess one spear and skirm
one spear and like five skirm
can defend almost anything
i i
predetermined i want to open scouts
but that's no longer possible because i have no info or what
easy Ethiopian so you naturally go target. yeah but i just beat Ethiopian with scouts into skirm
so i wanted to do the same thing as i did before
but the situation ain't the same because
uh...
He stole my boar and I have no info.
Let's say if I don't want to make tower.
If I don't want to make tower, I have to make scurfs.
I still don't know why I wouldn't be allowed to make scurfs.
I don't know for sure.
I can try to believe it, that what you guys are saying, but I don't know it for myself.
Why, from a zero vision situation, I'm not allowed to make scouts against Ethiopians?
Because I did it before.
Skirmstafflective medidarms?
Yeah, but I don't know he's going medidarms.
I can't counter something with unfair information.
Just read minds yet just remind yeah
Why did the house trick not work?
Classic mistake of thinking about previous game.
Oh my god.
I'm still in my shape. Who are these fuckers?
How they're both playing the same? Is this the same fucker?
What's he doing with the sheep?
Did he steal both boards or what?
Where the fuck is the board?
And the sheep, it's both missing.
GG.
Is this guy a map hacker or what?
He steals two sheep and stops the boar every time, the map hacker for sure.
He's already reported. I just heard he got banned.
Barracks. Oh, he's Mongols.
What the fuck happened to the borer?
Huh?
Oh wait, I killed it!
Oh, man.
He definitely maphacked.
You saw it, right?
He did the concentric scouting with his sheep around his town center to pretend he's not
maphacking.
He pretended not to see the two sheep to the bottom right of his town center, to make it
even more believable.
And then he didn't be lying right away for the boar pool, but instead found the sheep
to pretend to hide it even more.
That's crazy.
Yes, it's very unnatural for a mongol player to turn lame, yeah.
True, they never do that.
Mongols subhuman player.
I like Mongols guys, they're so much fun.
Chicken game, chicken in front.
I'm looking for the borer first.
You might get fewer Mongol players if you went random, what do you mean if I went random?
them they don't know my sieve they're just queuing the ladder brawl why are
we trying to counter something that happened without info again like you
should have gone skirmishers against mended arms but I didn't know it
I didn't find the boar, I didn't find the chickens, I have to get the boar in the back first,
This sucks because I know that that guy is coming for me.
No second bar, he took it already.
GG.
It's on the berries?
What do you mean it's on the berries?
It's not.
He took the bar.
I'm playing against Lamer every game today.
It's crazy.
Left of the gold.
I don't know.
Okay, I have fireball in my wood.
No, it's actually stolen again, this is insane.
If it was on the black bits guys, first of all I don't think they can be that close to
each other.
If it was on the black bits, it would have sometimes moved in range.
I'm actually not going to be able to age up.
It's like, as if someone last hit three of your first creeps in Warcraft 3.
That's how good it is.
I'm still looking for the Lost Boar.
I think it is hard for those beginning to believe that you won't go home.
Well, guess I'm fast-cassiling.
i guess he will do a scout rush
he's here
See he knows everything, what the fuck.
Why did he even know that?
Nope.
Nope, cheaser.
kidding not really.
mongolskata's more line of sight.
let's see, stable barracks, okay.
and
What?
How do you know?
I'm just looking at you.
What?
You know what?
What?
I'm just looking at you.
What?
I'm just looking at you.
What?
How long did I have idle builds there?
Probably for ages.
He was very bad to lose all his scouts even though he killed many villagers
If he started Castle, I'm very far behind.
If he didn't, not that bad.
what the hell are you guys going?
Thank you.
I killed all spears already. Oh my fucking god
Hey, Jen, you're ready to go to Jen?
What?
How are you?
All right, we'll be fine.
What's the problem?
How are you?
What's the problem?
Why don't you go to Jen?
Jen, why are you here?
Is Jen here to get together with you?
Oh, fuck I don't have to special building
Now it's going to go for some kind of mind you die or knight, a step launcher I guess.
And if it's step lancers, I should do what, archers?
RCA
Oh my god.
Is this guy legitimately this elo?
He doesn't feel this elo.
I dropped and it's harder than before.
You guys got his link?
Now I'm willing to steal your board. Bro, I watched everything, of course you stole it.
He played his elo, yes. You're doing some pretty basic mistakes.
going random sift breath. Worst advice ever. Literally the worst advice.
Let's see, where is the board?
It's right here.
Uh, he's not map hacking or anything like that.
He's doing normal scouting pattern, didn't know where I was immediately, understands
That's enough about map gen to kind of like scope out the map in a concentric area.
Found my board before I did.
Still have to use sheep to scout.
You run right up to the board?
He be-lined the board?
No, no, no, no, no.
He walked like this.
It just happened to be on the approach vector.
is running a standard scouting circle. I played against a guy before. They sent their scouts
to immediately grab the two sheep where they knew they were, then to the other two sheep
in the most straight line you can do from here into the two sheep, into the other two
sheep, no false movement, then right to my side of the map, stole a sheep, stopped me
pulling a boar behind my town center, started body blocking, then he stole three sheep
from my base, and then the best part was he pulled his villagers and built a mill on
the boar and the chickens which were together that was not yet scouted.
Can you show us him stopping at the boar again? Yeah.
Okay, that is a little weird, that is a little weird, exactly on the location of, that is
a little weird to the pixel like okay he also dodges your scouts straight line
until you'd have seen him then diagonal
well how do I report look if he's if he's how do I report I don't know I don't
I don't even know how.
There's no report button.
Look if he's innocent, then nothing will happen.
Oh, whatever, it doesn't matter.
It used to be, you had to report off to the game team to add something for after it, but
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know too.
That's fine.
It doesn't matter.
Well, it's late.
Today was a lot of fun.
I got my board stolen, four games in a row.
I think when I reached 1300, it happened twice in a row, and then it never happened again
all the way to 1800, over like 100 plus games, and today it happened 4 times in a row at 1500, unlucky.
People go mutual random and if you pick they play their pick with self and mongos.
Uh-huh, well, okay, fine, I'll always play against mongos.
Is Leeming allowed in the tournament? Of course it is.
He has mongols, he has plus 2 scout range, you could have seen it before, you see him
reacted.
Oh, I'm just talking about him moving the scout directly into my boar, stopping in front
of it for 4 seconds and not acting.
Which means he's not constantly clicking it, nor did he move past it and notice it, nor
was it at the edge of vision.
went right into the bore and then he stopped on top of it as if he already knew what's
gonna happen when he gets there. That was a little suspicious, it's not proof, but
he did make a circle which doesn't make sense. If he's going to just click on the bore he
could make it more obvious, but you know sometimes people try to make map hiking less obvious.
But it is where it is. Either way I don't think I played very well today and I've got
lot to learn. I'm gonna have to have better process. I mostly gave today to coach Uthermal,
which I think was fun and good content, but tomorrow it's gonna be more of an able to grind.
All right, all right guys, GGs, I'm gonna head off. I'm not demoralized. Of course it's not as good
as winning, but not demoralized. Let's go raid Uthermal in Warcraft 3 and I'll see you guys
tomorrow. Thank you for watching and thank you for the lovely support. Good night, Gigi's.