WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:02.060 you 00:30.000 --> 00:32.060 you 01:00.000 --> 01:02.060 you 01:30.000 --> 01:32.060 you 02:00.000 --> 02:02.060 you 02:30.000 --> 02:32.060 you 06:00.000 --> 06:02.000 Thank you for watching! 06:30.000 --> 06:32.060 you 07:00.000 --> 07:02.060 you 07:30.000 --> 07:32.060 you 08:00.000 --> 08:02.060 you 08:30.000 --> 08:32.060 you 10:30.000 --> 10:55.760 A son piker, socialist, communist, radical left influencer, a son piker, dirtbag left, 10:55.760 --> 10:59.760 Hassan Piker, pro-terrorism, pro-Hamas, Hassan Piker, 10:59.760 --> 11:03.440 Hassan Piker, Hassan, Hassan, Hassan, Hassan, Hassan, 11:03.440 --> 11:05.960 Hassan, Hassan, Hassan, Piker. 11:05.960 --> 11:09.120 Going on this vulgar rant, mocking wounded war vet 11:09.120 --> 11:11.480 for losing his eye fighting for freedom. 11:13.000 --> 11:15.560 Have you ever heard someone mention the stri-sand effect 11:15.560 --> 11:17.440 and wondered what they were talking about? 11:17.440 --> 11:20.880 This phenomenon is named after actress Barbara Stri-Sand. 11:20.880 --> 11:22.960 Sometimes when you try to cover something up, 11:22.960 --> 11:24.840 you end up bringing more attention to it 11:24.840 --> 11:26.840 and if you would just let things be. 11:26.840 --> 11:28.520 They won't quit that, Hassan Piper! 11:28.520 --> 11:30.240 Let's do co-privilege shit! 11:30.240 --> 11:33.640 The Assemblyman will not denounce Hassan Piper, who said, 11:33.640 --> 11:35.640 America deserve 9-11, dude. 11:35.640 --> 11:39.080 The Assemblyman just said in his response, Hassan Piper says, 11:39.080 --> 11:41.920 America deserve 9-11. 11:41.920 --> 11:43.080 There you go. 11:43.080 --> 11:43.880 There you have it. 11:43.880 --> 11:47.400 My friends, we have toppled a political dynasty. 11:47.400 --> 11:49.360 Now to the Michigan Senate race, where 11:49.360 --> 11:51.680 El Sayed is campaigning in Michigan, 11:51.680 --> 11:54.720 appearing on stage at two Michigan campaign rallies. 11:54.720 --> 11:57.040 He's coactively campaigning alongside Piker. 11:57.040 --> 12:00.240 The man who sent Hezbollah's flag is his favorite, because it's dope. 12:00.240 --> 12:03.880 Why would you align yourself for a raging anti-Semite price? 12:03.880 --> 12:05.800 Who has defended Hamas terrorists? 12:05.800 --> 12:08.720 Calling them the lesser of 2Bs, Israel's compared to the government's evils. 12:08.720 --> 12:09.320 Commodals strike. 12:09.320 --> 12:10.560 Lesser of 2Bs. 12:10.560 --> 12:13.160 What I find a bridge too far. 12:13.160 --> 12:16.080 When I went up to my good friend, Chad, and said, 12:16.080 --> 12:20.560 hey, you walk me through several controversial statements of a son Piker. 12:20.560 --> 12:26.400 Even chat TPC went out of its way to soften the edges of the song and give me context. 12:27.120 --> 12:29.520 Thanks, but no sex. Uh, chat TPC. 12:29.520 --> 12:34.400 The song piker is campaign poison. Placing yourself on the wrong side of a 9-10 issue 12:34.400 --> 12:38.160 is only gonna make you look bad. It's gonna be good for me. It's gonna be good for the 12:38.160 --> 12:44.560 candidates that I work with. Turns out it was true. Abdul al-Sayed at 27 percent. 12:44.560 --> 12:46.560 A lot of our larger male heroes, everybody. 12:46.560 --> 12:48.400 Yes, and the two of us, huh? Welcome to the broadcast. 12:48.400 --> 12:49.280 Thank you for having me. 12:49.280 --> 12:51.280 Oh my god 13:10.400 --> 13:12.080 What's going on everybody 13:12.080 --> 13:16.240 I hope everyone's having a fantastic evening afternoon pre-noon no matter where you are in the world 13:16.240 --> 13:22.960 them a Sompiker in the stars and I'm broadcast coming to you live from sunny California, 13:22.960 --> 13:26.000 Los Angeles folks were alive and alive. And I hope all the boys, girls and MBS are having 13:26.000 --> 13:32.480 a fantastic one because today's a beautiful day. Today's a wonderful day. Today is the 13:32.480 --> 13:42.360 day I'm back. That's right, folks came back naked. Not in the way that you would expect 13:42.360 --> 13:51.720 me too in a different way naked nonetheless naked in the face of course I'm son piker 13:53.560 --> 13:59.880 and I shaved and I know when I usually do that people freak out unfortunately for some strange 13:59.880 --> 14:09.240 reason but I'm back they cloned me this is a new this is a new me new year new me baby 14:12.360 --> 14:28.360 Anyway, I'm live. I'm alive. We have a lot to a lot of news to cover. But of course, this is the part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news. It's my birthday. 14:28.360 --> 14:33.860 Or it was my birthday yesterday, it turned 35. 14:33.860 --> 14:44.040 And because I was out getting sun, as you can probably tell, I thought to myself, well, 14:44.040 --> 14:51.600 might as well get shaved up on status. 14:51.600 --> 15:01.820 Uh, totally officially on status at 35 and, uh, yeah, I am onk. I'm onk. I'm chunk. I'm 15:01.820 --> 15:09.180 chopped onk. I'm chopped. Huzz. I'm all of those things. In any case, we're live, we're 15:09.180 --> 15:14.060 alive. There's so much to talk about and I, I'm not going to lie to you. Normally when 15:14.060 --> 15:19.980 to take a day off, when I take one day off or two days off, which is rare, uh, I often 15:21.660 --> 15:25.420 think to myself, like, what's my comeback stream going to be like? What am I going to talk about? 15:25.420 --> 15:30.460 What am I going to discuss? Feels good to be back, you know, all that sort of stuff, right? 15:31.260 --> 15:36.940 Well, this time is a little different because I officially did a complete 15:36.940 --> 15:45.500 and total vacation with the family. And by that, I mean, I completely checked out. I 15:45.500 --> 15:53.000 brought my Pelican case with me to fire off an emergency stream, if necessary. And there 15:53.000 --> 15:59.660 were definitely moments where I thought to myself, this is a crisis worthy of coverage. 15:59.660 --> 16:06.940 and Whitmer endorses Abdul El Sayed. World War III is imminent. Ukraine struck an Iranian ship 16:06.940 --> 16:13.340 expanding on the conflict, possibly opening a new front for Ukraine and maybe a new front for Iran. 16:15.180 --> 16:21.100 White House Correspondence Dinner was put together and the president bombed in his 16:22.620 --> 16:28.620 horrible, horrible speech that he delivered. And yet I didn't, I didn't cover any of that. 16:28.620 --> 16:35.520 I paid attention to it, I paid attention to it from afar. 16:35.520 --> 16:43.340 I monitored the situation as always, as I'd like to do, and I kept my comments to myself. 16:43.340 --> 16:45.180 I kept my comments to myself. 16:45.180 --> 16:56.740 Instead of going live, instead of going live, I just, you know, I left these nuggets of 16:56.740 --> 17:06.420 truth and wisdom inside of my whole mind. Now, I obviously feel, you know, I feel pretty good. 17:08.340 --> 17:14.340 I feel pretty good. The world kept ticking without you. You can take a hollabob. Okay, yeah. 17:16.580 --> 17:21.220 We had after school day care instead. Great. Phoenix emoji. Thank you for the 35 gift to subs. 17:23.140 --> 17:24.340 But yeah, 17:26.740 --> 17:30.140 We're, so to get to what we're all wondering, are you gaming today? 17:30.140 --> 17:34.860 I, I will say, I will say this, I'm already annoyed, okay? 17:34.860 --> 17:38.460 I took four days off and normally I feel very refreshed. 17:38.460 --> 17:40.940 Normally I feel very good coming back. 17:40.940 --> 17:44.180 Uh, normally this is when I'm like, oh, this is exciting. 17:44.180 --> 17:45.180 Uh, I'm back. 17:45.180 --> 17:46.180 I love my job. 17:46.180 --> 17:47.300 I love my community. 17:47.300 --> 17:51.780 And I'm already fucking annoyed because for the last four days, I didn't have anybody 17:51.780 --> 17:53.300 chirping at me. 17:53.300 --> 17:54.300 Okay. 17:54.300 --> 18:05.140 stop endlessly whining like little babies. So that definitely took a lot of, there was 18:05.140 --> 18:09.540 a lot of mental strain that I was not even considering that. The average person would 18:09.540 --> 18:19.780 say no duh, no shit. Of course you have a lot of mental strain too, but people being 18:19.780 --> 18:25.360 like, why did you shave your facial hair? Why you look like a child? I, you shouldn't 18:25.360 --> 18:31.660 have done that. I'm unsubscribing. Why, when are you gonna get to gaming? All of this stuff, 18:31.660 --> 18:38.260 all of this stuff was not a part of my journey for the last four days and it felt pretty 18:38.260 --> 18:54.660 good. It felt pretty good. I won't lie to you. I got a little bit of sun. I was in a beautiful 18:55.540 --> 19:03.780 tropical destination with the family. I treated them to a phenomenal experience. I'm 19:03.780 --> 19:12.000 I'm so fortunate to be able to do that and you know, it felt good. 19:12.000 --> 19:12.680 It felt good. 19:12.680 --> 19:17.480 I read, I read the Mal book again, trying to put a dent in that. 19:17.480 --> 19:19.680 It's been quite difficult as you guys know. 19:19.680 --> 19:21.580 It's become a bit of a meme at this point. 19:23.580 --> 19:28.580 Um, I have a wedding coming up. 19:28.580 --> 19:29.980 Want to be my plus one? 19:30.080 --> 19:30.580 No. 19:30.780 --> 19:31.780 Awkward Meredith. 19:33.780 --> 19:47.100 But, in any case, it'll take a little bit of getting used to the facial hair. 19:47.100 --> 19:48.260 I know, I understand. 19:48.260 --> 19:50.480 My family was also annoyed with it. 19:50.480 --> 19:53.180 My mom was annoyed with it. 19:53.180 --> 19:56.900 My dad liked it though, so that's cool. 19:56.900 --> 19:57.900 Yeah. 19:57.900 --> 20:08.780 Yeah, are you going to quit and go part time now? 20:08.780 --> 20:09.780 Of course not. 20:09.780 --> 20:11.340 I'm back into the groove, baby. 20:11.340 --> 20:16.300 This weekend, I'm going to be in Michigan and then also Wisconsin and then Michigan 20:16.300 --> 20:17.300 again. 20:17.300 --> 20:23.980 So, obviously, we're going back into the full swing of things, but I did not play 20:23.980 --> 20:28.300 pickleball. I'll talk about my vacation experience, vacation all I ever wanted, vacation. 20:29.900 --> 20:33.900 I don't even know how that song goes, but yeah, I'll tell you all about it. I'll tell you all 20:33.900 --> 20:40.460 about it. But yeah, we're, we're, you know, full steam ahead, a lot going on in the world. 20:41.820 --> 20:47.260 I'm back in LA, vacation recap. 20:50.060 --> 20:51.100 Trump backs down. 20:51.100 --> 21:11.100 one of those correspondents dinner speech bombed went as channel five collab 21:11.100 --> 21:17.060 question mark we'll talk about that I got some thoughts on that as well I feel 21:17.060 --> 21:30.660 like we're just rehabilitating the image of a neo-Nazi. It's very strange, but I shaved. Get in now. 21:39.300 --> 21:44.020 You should have taken more me time. No, I would have probably lost my damn mind if I took more 21:44.020 --> 21:51.940 me time than the amount of me time I've taken so far. Do we have a blast off meme, chatters? 21:56.980 --> 21:59.220 Okay, I'll use this one. This is good. 22:05.940 --> 22:09.940 Did you see the trailer for Neuromancer? No, I have not. 22:09.940 --> 22:17.940 I used to hate the shave, but this time it's hot as hell. Shaving took off like eight years. 22:17.940 --> 22:28.940 Yeah, I mean, I'm 35, man. I'm 35. I'm old. I'm an old man. So you gotta do what you gotta do. 22:28.940 --> 22:36.940 I mean, I'm gonna grow the beard back immediately. Like I said, I needed to shave it so I could even tan on my face, you know? 22:36.940 --> 22:48.780 Fox News did a piece on me. I mean, the hit pieces keep coming. In any case, here's the 22:48.780 --> 23:00.660 blast off. Let the people know. Also, officially fallen off. Four days in our streaming, 10,000 23:00.660 --> 23:04.380 Officially fall it off. 23:04.380 --> 23:10.460 Kaisen app will maintain, Kaisen app will maintain like 80,000 subs when he has the stream for 23:10.460 --> 23:12.820 like six months. 23:12.820 --> 23:18.220 My community goes, nope, you're done. 23:18.220 --> 23:19.980 LeBron to Philly will address it. 23:19.980 --> 23:20.980 Yeah. 23:20.980 --> 23:22.500 They're like, oh, you took a day off. 23:22.500 --> 23:24.660 Fucking, you took four days off. 23:24.660 --> 23:25.660 Kill yourself. 23:25.660 --> 23:28.620 I thought you got banned. 23:28.620 --> 23:29.620 No. 23:29.620 --> 23:42.300 Normally, the only time I've ever taken four days in a row off is because I've been banned. 23:42.300 --> 23:48.540 That's it. 23:48.540 --> 24:01.740 hit pieces. You are now Joe Rogan. I guess. Alright, so let's get it started. Let's get 24:01.740 --> 24:08.060 it started. So where do I begin? Where do I begin? Where do I begin? First and foremost, 24:08.060 --> 24:22.580 I got on a flight Tuesday night, passed out, woke up, did not want to, did not want to 24:22.580 --> 24:24.380 start the vacation. 24:24.380 --> 24:30.620 I brought my Pelican case with me just so I could possibly rip a desktop stream if necessary, 24:30.620 --> 24:32.620 right? 24:32.620 --> 24:35.500 I wanted to potentially monitor the situation. 24:35.500 --> 24:45.460 I wanted to, because the Trump side was possibly agitating for war, right? 24:45.460 --> 24:53.060 Trump was posturing in the direction of expanding the war in Iran. 24:53.060 --> 24:59.340 And if he were to do the big bomb, possibly bombing Pickax Mountain, this new target that 24:59.340 --> 25:09.100 Israel has decided will potentially continue the conflict. The paper tiger American empire would 25:09.100 --> 25:15.260 potentially do something crazy, right? And I obviously had to offer full spectrum coverage if that 25:16.380 --> 25:24.060 were to take place. Now, it didn't happen. That did not happen luckily. And we're going to get to 25:24.060 --> 25:30.220 that in a little bit. There's a good reason for it. It's all of the warnings that I've been talking 25:30.220 --> 25:35.420 about have been realized and actualized by the administration for the first time ever, 25:35.420 --> 25:43.100 but we'll get to that in a second. But yeah, first day slept for the most part. Beautiful, 25:43.100 --> 25:54.660 beautiful, beautiful hotel, food is decent, and everything was, everything was great, 25:54.660 --> 26:05.900 you know. My brother was actively trying to get me to go and, and dive with him. He's 26:05.900 --> 26:12.940 He's a certified scuba diver and he really, really wanted me to do this. 26:12.940 --> 26:15.100 And you guys know, I'm a little bit afraid. 26:15.100 --> 26:22.620 I'm a little bit afraid of the ocean, big bodies of water, fish in general, right? 26:22.620 --> 26:25.180 These are the types of things that I am fearful of. 26:25.180 --> 26:28.940 Famously, I couldn't even finish Subnautica if you recall. 26:28.940 --> 26:30.940 There we go. 26:30.940 --> 26:32.900 Let's blast off one more time. 26:32.900 --> 26:35.100 This is a blast off memes. 26:35.100 --> 26:37.620 And so, you know, this was a big deal for me. 26:37.620 --> 26:41.700 I know for many of you, you're like, what fish are, fish are friends? 26:41.700 --> 26:42.700 They're chill. 26:42.700 --> 26:43.700 You're so stupid. 26:43.700 --> 26:45.740 Why are you even afraid of fish? 26:45.740 --> 26:46.740 What's wrong with you? 26:46.740 --> 26:48.420 Well, there's a good reason. 26:48.420 --> 26:55.180 I just, you know, I've just always been afraid of the ocean, big bodies of water. 26:55.180 --> 27:00.700 Always been afraid of big bodies of water, always been afraid of fish in general. 27:00.700 --> 27:03.980 And I was also worried about diving as well. 27:03.980 --> 27:15.820 the reason why I was worried about diving is because I was, uh, I, you know, there's 27:15.820 --> 27:21.900 not only my underwater, what if I panic, right? What if a fish comes up to me and freaks me 27:21.900 --> 27:28.540 out and then I panic and then I get the bends because I go up too fast. You know, it's an 27:28.540 --> 27:32.860 uncontrollable environment. We're not supposed to be in that environment, right? It's human 27:32.860 --> 27:38.140 beings. We can't breathe underwater. It's an uncomfortable situation to be in a lot of pressure too. 27:39.340 --> 27:48.780 So first day, first day we go 12 feet, easy peasy. First day we went down 12 feet, it was easy peasy 27:48.780 --> 27:58.780 and I got my diving wings, I got used to it. It's a very, it is a very calming experience, 27:58.780 --> 28:06.540 ironically enough. You are effectively monitoring your breathing manually, which is very funny. 28:06.540 --> 28:10.060 It's like a twitch meme for those of you who don't know when they go, you are now manually 28:10.060 --> 28:15.900 breathing. You are technically manually breathing at first until you, yeah, it's meditative for sure. 28:22.540 --> 28:26.220 It's fine, but it's kind of hypocritical because you often make fun of people who have social 28:26.220 --> 28:35.340 phobias? Yeah, you know who else I make fun of for having a stupid phobia? Myself. Okay, 28:35.340 --> 28:40.180 and everyone makes fun of me for that too. So what's the point? Yeah, I make fun of everybody 28:40.180 --> 28:50.140 else and I make fun of myself and others make fun of me as well. So wait, oh, David, what 28:50.140 --> 28:58.260 did you do? God damn it. What is happening here? He changed all of my fucking presets. 28:58.260 --> 29:10.740 So I don't even know. Is this? Oh, there it is. Oh, Jesus Christ. Okay. Okay, I had the 29:10.740 --> 29:14.580 was gone for like four days. So of course, David flipped everything. I just realized 29:14.580 --> 29:21.900 that didn't have any of the alerts or anything like that. 29:21.900 --> 29:22.400 Anyway. 29:33.220 --> 29:33.720 So. 29:40.100 --> 29:42.100 So, soundboard is dead? 29:42.100 --> 29:43.980 No, it's not. 29:43.980 --> 29:52.140 still here. But yeah, the diving experience was great the first day. Saw octopus, saw fish, 29:53.180 --> 29:58.060 it was whatever, it was chill. The next day we were going on a deeper dive, this time 40 feet, 29:58.780 --> 30:06.380 right? And I think like once you get used to the 10 feet, like the zero feet to 10 feet, 30:07.420 --> 30:11.900 there's not much difference between 10 feet and 40 feet, but 30:13.980 --> 30:24.580 The next day we saw stingrays, which was a cool experience. 30:24.580 --> 30:29.660 And we saw sharks, which was a cool experience. 30:29.660 --> 30:32.740 And I mean, the sharks were super chill too. 30:32.740 --> 30:37.860 And basically I realized like, you know, fish are chill, fish are just guys. 30:37.860 --> 30:38.860 Okay. 30:38.860 --> 30:41.540 Fish, fish are just guys. 30:41.540 --> 30:42.540 I didn't think about. 30:42.540 --> 30:47.420 I always, I always thought fish were like this alien species, right? 30:47.420 --> 30:51.340 And it does have an alien quality when you're underneath, uh, when you're, 30:51.340 --> 30:55.340 when you're in their habitat, all of the coral reefs and all this shit, right? 30:55.340 --> 31:00.300 All the, all the different things that are down there. 31:00.300 --> 31:04.460 It does have a, it does have a alien quality to it, 31:05.100 --> 31:09.980 but I always thought fish were just like nervous, panicked, alien like, 31:09.980 --> 31:16.880 like, but when I was in their environment, they were unbelievably chill, okay? They were 31:16.880 --> 31:22.960 unfathomably chill. They would just come up and be like, what's up? Literally, they would 31:22.960 --> 31:29.200 just like come over and, and they were curious about who I was. We had a cultural exchange 31:29.200 --> 31:36.280 had a cultural exchange with the fish. Same with the octopus too. The octopus still scare 31:36.280 --> 31:41.440 me a little bit because they're too smart. You know, they have a almost human like quality 31:41.440 --> 31:47.880 to them. It's like fucked up. Did I pet them? Yes, I fed them too. I fed a fish by hand 31:47.880 --> 31:53.080 underwater. It was pretty cool. 31:53.080 --> 32:04.360 Um, but yeah, it's, it's official though. I was at the straight of hormones. Okay. Yes, 32:04.360 --> 32:06.160 I traveled down to the Gulf. 32:06.800 --> 32:08.200 Uh, I could not go. 32:08.240 --> 32:12.920 First, I was going to go through the Turkish Iranian border, go to Iran, 32:12.960 --> 32:20.200 go to Southern Iran and, and dive in and, and basically pry open the straight by hand. 32:21.080 --> 32:27.000 But instead, uh, I had to go through the golf side, uh, through Oman, 32:27.460 --> 32:34.000 Doven through Oman and, and all I got was these, uh, aquatic experiences. 32:34.000 --> 32:40.080 I was trying to negotiate. I was trying to pry it open. I'm a hero. I'm a hero for that. 32:42.560 --> 32:46.960 Okay. No, I was not in Singapore in the Malacca straight because the Malacca straight is always 32:46.960 --> 32:52.640 open. It remains open. Yeah. Did you talk to RGC? But CG is yeah. 32:52.640 --> 33:07.760 Unfortunately, my efforts amounted to nothing. My efforts amounted to nothing. I was not able to 33:07.760 --> 33:15.520 open the Strait of Hormuz. But while I could not deliver peace between the Islamic Republic 33:15.520 --> 33:24.800 and the beautiful nation-state of Singapore and the United States of America, I was able 33:24.800 --> 33:33.720 to make peace with the fish. So, not the worst possible thing. Other than that, there's really 33:33.720 --> 33:40.040 not much going on. There's not really much going on in my life. I just, you know, I feel 33:40.040 --> 33:50.360 refreshed. I feel pretty good. I shaved, which is apparently a big deal for some. As always, 33:50.360 --> 33:54.680 whenever I shave, y'all turn into like little babies seeing their father shave for the first 33:54.680 --> 34:02.200 time you start crying. Did you get a cool birthday present? I did not. 34:02.200 --> 34:17.360 But yeah, I'm glad I did it though, because obviously there is a lot going on in the world, 34:17.360 --> 34:21.880 a lot going on in the universe, and there is going to be even more stuff coming up this 34:21.880 --> 34:22.880 week. 34:22.880 --> 34:28.160 So I, you know, I took that one yearly break that I take with my family, which I usually 34:28.160 --> 34:34.000 streamed through with the only difference this time was I didn't stream through it. 34:34.000 --> 34:41.080 But I certainly wasn't as up to date with everything that was going on, I mean I followed, 34:41.080 --> 34:49.640 I followed along from afar, you know I saw the ups and downs, but I will say it's good 34:49.640 --> 35:15.080 to be back. It's good to be back. That's crazy. What the fuck? What the fuck is this? Bro, 35:15.080 --> 35:22.680 That is okay. Okay, fair. 35:22.680 --> 35:26.680 Birthday food review? What food review? What birthday food review? There's no birthday 35:26.680 --> 35:34.160 food review. What does that even mean? 35:34.160 --> 35:40.680 The comments say his girlfriend brought the pig to the bakery. 35:40.680 --> 35:49.880 Yeah. No idea what people are saying. You look hot as fuck, Shave. Keep it up. Thank 35:49.880 --> 35:55.280 you. Does your new relationship with fish make you more or less likely to eat them? 35:55.280 --> 36:03.280 I am not going to eat them. I, you know, the taste of it still freaks me out. All right. 36:03.280 --> 36:07.680 We're going to get to the news. Do we have a, do we have a playlist or is that gone too? 36:07.680 --> 36:19.320 that over now now that we're what is this Hassan used to have fun what is this I mean 36:19.320 --> 36:28.440 yeah I used to and I don't you didn't do anything for your actual true yeah we 36:28.440 --> 36:29.440 You got helium balloons. 36:29.440 --> 36:31.800 Did you know helium is going to get stings? 36:31.800 --> 36:33.800 I have heard that. 36:33.800 --> 36:34.800 Of course. 36:34.800 --> 36:40.920 In any case, today we're going to be making my favorite type of cake. 36:40.920 --> 36:43.880 It's called the Tray Leche Cake. 36:43.880 --> 36:44.880 Triple milk. 36:44.880 --> 36:45.880 Triple milk. 36:45.880 --> 36:46.880 Triple the milk. 36:46.880 --> 36:47.880 Triple the fun. 36:47.880 --> 36:53.280 He has made this for me before, but this time I'm going to learn how to make it myself. 36:53.280 --> 36:57.280 And I'm very excited to have to pick this up. 36:57.280 --> 36:59.920 Yeah, I just knotted everywhere after he was awesome. 36:59.920 --> 37:01.000 He's not a retainer. 37:01.000 --> 37:03.160 Do you know what a retainer is? 37:03.160 --> 37:04.440 You call him a retainer? 37:04.440 --> 37:08.160 Yeah, he's like a, it's like a gooner, but much better. 37:08.160 --> 37:08.600 No. 37:08.600 --> 37:10.000 Because he just never comes. 37:10.000 --> 37:12.160 What are you doing back there, girl? 37:12.160 --> 37:15.360 He's finding stuff. 37:15.360 --> 37:21.600 Anyway, um, but yeah, we'll, while you're prepared, 37:21.600 --> 37:25.120 we can talk about, can we like poke lips up and stuff, or? 37:25.120 --> 37:27.240 Uh, it depends on how, 37:27.240 --> 37:33.040 nice Nico fills. Oh, okay. Nico, do you feel nice? Do you want to pull clips up for him? 37:33.040 --> 37:42.160 I was going to say, I saw such a basic bitch for like in Tray Leggay, that's crazy. I feel like 37:42.160 --> 37:50.080 it's not the most basic build in terms of, is it a basic? Is it a basic bitch cake? It is? Oh my god. 37:57.240 --> 38:07.400 It's good. It's delicious. Also, I'm Mexican. I think it's crazy that people are denying me my Mexican heritage by shitting on my favorite choice of cake 38:10.680 --> 38:17.640 The way he pronounced it at trade leches, is it tres leches? I don't know how you're supposed to say it 38:18.920 --> 38:25.160 Whatever it no matter. I got the playlist. Thank you chatters. I got the playlist right here. Oh my god 38:27.240 --> 38:33.680 Okay, yeah, what is this? 38:33.680 --> 38:47.240 This may be an unpopular tag, but I like the no facial hair today. 38:47.240 --> 38:48.240 You're looking skinny. 38:48.240 --> 38:49.240 Thank you. 38:49.240 --> 38:55.200 Um, yeah, I used to have fun, man. 38:55.200 --> 38:56.480 I used to have fun. 38:56.480 --> 39:01.200 People are saying red velvet is their favorite cake, but red velvet is just chocolate cake. 39:01.200 --> 39:08.240 The Sompikers controversial rise device of democratic party. 39:08.240 --> 39:10.240 Can you unshave please? 39:10.240 --> 39:15.040 Yes, it's called just not shaving for a couple of days. 39:15.040 --> 39:16.040 Don't worry. 39:16.040 --> 39:17.960 I'm on like day two so far. 39:17.960 --> 39:21.320 So in like three days, my beard will be back. 39:21.320 --> 39:22.320 Fox News went crazy. 39:22.320 --> 39:23.320 They talked about you every day. 39:23.320 --> 39:30.000 had you opening in the Hannity had you in the opening monologue two days in a row? Oh my God. They must have missed me 39:30.520 --> 39:32.520 Did they miss me? 39:32.600 --> 39:36.720 If there's one community that missed me is gotta be my haters, right? 39:36.720 --> 39:42.440 Like I know I know you guys are like, oh, you didn't give me the news news boy. Fuck you, right? 39:42.440 --> 39:49.160 I'm sure that's like a main a primary concern for many of you in this community, but let's be real. I think I 39:50.800 --> 39:52.800 Think there was a 39:52.800 --> 39:57.760 There's a community that missed me a lot more. And that was Fox News and my haters on the 39:57.760 --> 40:06.920 internet. Haters on the liberal side, haters on the Republican side, doing the devastating 40:06.920 --> 40:14.840 handshake of hell, getting together and finding new ways of yelling about me, even when I 40:14.840 --> 40:18.160 wasn't making new content for them. 40:18.160 --> 40:23.520 So yeah, this was very funny. This was a very funny outrage. Has Sompiker framed the 9-11 40:23.520 --> 40:28.560 front page? This is an enemy of America. It's like, first of all, it's called never forget. 40:28.560 --> 40:33.240 Okay. Hey Twitch, you okay with this? I don't mean that to be funny. I'm actually asking, 40:33.240 --> 40:40.560 are you actually okay with this? Why would Twitch ban me for having a framed newspaper 40:40.560 --> 40:53.520 of 912 of the New York Times, that would be fucking insane. 40:53.520 --> 41:03.180 It is probably the most singularly important historic event of all of our lifetime. 41:03.180 --> 41:07.520 That is insane. 41:07.520 --> 41:12.200 You know, the Sompiker now displays frame nine, 12, newspaper show the Twin Towers and 41:12.200 --> 41:17.480 flames behind him on stream. History enthusiasts when it isn't World War II or the Roman Empire. 41:17.480 --> 41:19.200 Yeah, that was really funny. 41:19.200 --> 41:26.400 David, but I can't even begin to explain how evil is that scumbag Sompiker has the September 41:26.400 --> 41:30.320 12, 2001, New York Times framed on a set. You know, it's really funny about all this, 41:30.320 --> 41:35.560 by the way. They all complained about this. And then one day later, Donald Trump came 41:35.560 --> 41:41.720 out and was like, hey, you know that country that had the most to do with 9-11, Saudi Arabia? 41:41.720 --> 41:47.080 I'm going to give that country nuclear weapons potentially, a pathway to develop nukes. 41:47.960 --> 41:55.160 There is nothing funnier than watching the entire conservative sphere lose their collective minds 41:55.160 --> 41:59.640 and try to manufacture outrage over a non-issue that most normal people will be like, yeah, 41:59.640 --> 42:05.880 it's a fucking profoundly important historic event. And then the next day, Trump is like, 42:05.880 --> 42:13.400 you know what, actually, 9-11, the country that had a lot to do with it, they deserve nuclear arms. 42:13.400 --> 42:20.360 We are going to give them civilian nukes, but also potentially a pathway to nuclear enrichment. 42:20.360 --> 42:31.240 It's hilarious. It is fucking hilarious that they went and try to manufacture in farm outrage 42:31.240 --> 42:34.280 only to then turn around and get outdone by Donald Trump. 42:43.080 --> 42:47.720 Yeah, whatever happened, they never forget. Well, for them, it's like I should forget it 42:47.720 --> 42:56.840 immediately, I guess. And that's what they're frustrated about. Anyway, what does Saudi 42:56.840 --> 43:03.480 Arabia do with it? 17 of the 19 hijackers were of Saudi descent, Saudi nationality, 43:03.480 --> 43:09.720 and not only that, but also there were members of the royal family that had directly funded 43:09.720 --> 43:18.200 the hijackers. Also Al Qaeda is a collaborative effort between the CIA and the Kingdom of 43:18.200 --> 43:24.000 Saudi Arabia. So they had a lot to do with it. A lot more than Iran did, for example. 43:24.000 --> 43:30.920 Iran had nothing to do with 9-11, even though Americans think it was Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan 43:30.920 --> 43:34.400 that had everything to do with 9-11, which is hilarious because they had nothing to do 43:34.400 --> 43:56.760 with it at all. So, yeah. In any case, that was a farm operation, manufactured 43:56.760 --> 44:04.320 outrage operation that I think kind of fell flat. And we moved on. What is this new Haley 44:04.320 --> 44:08.720 Steven's soundbite from when you were gone. I told you, Justin, I left. 44:14.400 --> 44:19.920 I mean, this is, yeah, I don't know what to say about Haley Stevens. We'll get to that in a 44:19.920 --> 44:26.880 second. Okay, there's a lot to talk about on the Haley Stevens camp. I think all of this like, 44:26.880 --> 44:37.200 like a cutesy, folksy, exaggerated accent of Hayley Stevens unironically is a shield, 44:37.200 --> 44:45.880 is a way for her to basically, you know, hide the fact that she is an establishment politician, 44:45.880 --> 44:52.140 not dissimilar to what you expect from the likes of, you know, Pete Buttigieg or any 44:52.140 --> 44:59.100 number of different like establishment Democrats and it makes her come across like a harmless 44:59.100 --> 45:08.300 figure when she is her policies, her agenda, her worldview is very harmful. 45:13.260 --> 45:13.500 Yeah. 45:17.020 --> 45:21.820 Yeah, this is a great example of this. Two cool kids on the internet doing cool kid 45:21.820 --> 45:25.800 Shatter some of them might be coastal least make fun how I talk they're making fun of Michigan 45:26.180 --> 45:33.060 It's like bro. You literally endorse Michael Bloomberg. I'm like, what are you talking about you endorse Michael Bloomberg for president in 2020? 45:33.060 --> 45:38.180 The fuck do you mean about the coastal Lee? She is just a corporate suit and nothing else 45:38.180 --> 45:44.380 I guess no jokes are allowed when you turn 35. Huh? No, I just I'm getting acclimated Chatter 45:44.380 --> 45:46.380 I just got back 45:46.380 --> 45:54.980 I mean, I traveled for like basically 15, almost 20 hours, okay? 45:54.980 --> 45:58.900 And immediately came home and immediately fucking fired off the stream. 45:58.900 --> 46:01.020 So I'm a little bit all over the place. 46:01.020 --> 46:06.620 I'm a little discombobulated, even though I'm actually feeling unbelievably refreshed 46:06.620 --> 46:09.220 because I took, you know, four days off. 46:09.220 --> 46:12.620 But yeah, I traveled a lot. 46:12.620 --> 46:18.780 So and and instantly got off the flight and went live. 46:18.780 --> 46:27.940 So yeah, excuse me if I'm, I'm a little bit frazzled, okay. 46:27.940 --> 46:35.580 Um, are we just going to ignore level 10 hype train earlier level 20 hype train because 46:35.580 --> 46:40.900 all of the people are coming back to subscribe today because they, I wasn't live. 46:40.900 --> 46:46.980 So level 10 hype trend price went up or carry in the flame. 46:46.980 --> 46:50.780 We're doubling it. 46:50.780 --> 46:53.580 You look refreshers of light in your eyes that I find unsettling. 46:53.580 --> 46:54.580 Okay. 46:54.580 --> 46:57.340 Anyway, let's get started. 46:57.340 --> 46:58.500 Fox News missed me a lot. 46:58.500 --> 47:00.660 It seems we'll start there. 47:00.660 --> 47:01.660 There's a lot to talk about. 47:01.660 --> 47:02.660 We're going to talk about the Shredder Hormose. 47:02.660 --> 47:05.100 We're going to talk about situation monitoring. 47:05.100 --> 47:07.060 We're going to talk about the American war efforts. 47:07.060 --> 47:14.100 on day 14 post-MOU and last night or this weekend, Trump signaled that he was going 47:14.100 --> 47:23.100 to do something crazy and then chose to pull back from it. 47:23.100 --> 47:27.740 Because of the reasons that we've mentioned already, there's a lot of structural and logistical 47:27.740 --> 47:34.180 limitations. There's limitations in the procurement strategy of the American side. They don't 47:34.180 --> 47:38.140 have enough interceptors. They've depleted their standoff munitions, they've depleted 47:38.140 --> 47:47.780 their interceptors, and it's not a great situation for the American side. And on top of that, 47:47.780 --> 47:57.420 I think the Iranian regime's efforts in increasing the, what is this? Other Fox News article, 47:57.420 --> 48:02.380 Hassan Farla figure erupt over subpoenas and $39 million Singham probe, McCarthy trials 48:02.380 --> 48:05.820 for the far-left allies slam the spinners of the witch hunt while fundraising campaigns were also 48:05.820 --> 48:12.860 initiated. Yeah, it's kind of funny that they're trying to tie me to Roy Singham so hard. Like, 48:12.860 --> 48:18.540 I have no connection to this man. Not that it matters because it's still, as a commentator, 48:18.540 --> 48:23.820 as an analyst, as a leftist, as a socialist, yeah, of course, I'm very frustrated by the federal 48:23.820 --> 48:33.500 government engaging in this like fascist witch hunt regardless of my my lack of direct relationship 48:33.500 --> 48:40.220 or involvement with Roy Singham. You finally got subpoenaed. No, I did not get subpoenaed. 48:40.220 --> 48:48.300 Shatter. You both wear glasses. It's true. We both do wear glasses. Anyway, we'll get to all 48:48.300 --> 48:54.700 that and more there's a Netanyahu there's a Netanyahu forceful rebuke and more but first 48:54.700 --> 49:02.220 let's start here deserve 9 11 dude i'm saying it will inevitably turn israel into a nation 49:02.940 --> 49:11.900 that is entirely comprised of messianic inbred ultra orthodox psychopaths with a nuclear arsenal 49:11.900 --> 49:18.700 Mao Zedong is a yeah, um backs by the way again, this is so funny like 49:19.500 --> 49:24.540 It's it's really is really funny that these guys will clip this and be like see 49:25.420 --> 49:30.620 Look at how look at how frustrating this is. It's like. Yeah, you should hear what the the more liberal 49:31.260 --> 49:34.620 Ashkenazi Jews have to say about where Israel is headed 49:34.940 --> 49:41.020 What I can't make a fucking assessment about where Israel is headed given it's like demographic increases 49:41.020 --> 49:46.020 is exclusively coming from some of the most far-right elements in Israeli society? 49:46.020 --> 49:48.020 Yeah. 49:48.020 --> 49:54.020 That's what this argument is, and it's where Israel is headed. 49:54.020 --> 49:56.020 What am I not supposed to tell you the truth? 49:56.020 --> 49:57.020 I don't give a shit. 49:57.020 --> 49:59.020 Does this fake outrage even work? 49:59.020 --> 50:00.020 No, it doesn't. 50:00.020 --> 50:04.020 It's just like, it's unbelievably silly. 50:04.020 --> 50:10.020 Like, what I'm referencing is that Israel is inevitably going to turn into a country run 50:10.020 --> 50:15.380 run exclusively by Itamar Ben-Givir's and, and Bezalel Smalltrich's, right? 50:21.140 --> 50:21.620 That's it. 50:23.780 --> 50:29.940 Which is exactly what's going on. And that's a real concern, even in Israeli society broadly, 50:30.580 --> 50:37.460 whether we give a shit about what like, uh, liberal Zionists, uh, uh, whether we give a 50:37.460 --> 50:41.060 shit about what liberal Zionists are concerned with or not. There's a separate demographic 50:41.060 --> 50:45.380 concern amongst liberal Zionists in Israel, amongst the more liberal elements that wanna 50:45.380 --> 50:51.860 maintain a close relationship with the West. And that is the fear that they're being outbred. 50:53.220 --> 50:57.540 There's two different demographic concerns in Israel, broadly speaking. One is the non-Jew 50:57.540 --> 51:04.820 population, the non-Jewish population potentially outbreeding the Jewish population, which is not 51:04.820 --> 51:11.620 that big of a concern for Israeli society broadly, because the Orthodox population, the ultra-Orthodox 51:11.620 --> 51:17.780 population are actually keeping Israel the Israeli demographic concerns at bay, 51:18.980 --> 51:25.860 because they oftentimes will have a lot of children, right? But this presents a unique 51:25.860 --> 51:30.580 demographic concern for some of the more liberal elements in Israeli society, because a lot of 51:30.580 --> 51:40.020 of these guys are very right-wing. Okay, that's it. So, while Israel has taken the initiative 51:40.020 --> 51:48.020 to insure, and this is eugenics for the most part, let's be real, but while Israel has 51:48.020 --> 51:51.940 taken the initiative to try to stave off some of these demographic concerns coming from 51:51.940 --> 51:57.700 the Arab population, the other side of the story is something that they haven't been 51:57.700 --> 52:04.080 able to deal with it all, which is that the Israeli demographic replacement is not actually 52:04.080 --> 52:09.460 coming from the non-Jews that live in Israel or live outside of Israel but have a right 52:09.460 --> 52:14.980 to return technically, but it's actually coming from the replacement, coming from West Bank 52:14.980 --> 52:20.300 settlers for the most part, also Orthodox and Orthodox Jewish sects that tend to be 52:20.300 --> 52:26.380 a far more right wing. Now, there's obviously no monolithic understanding of any religious 52:26.380 --> 52:32.220 entity in this country, or in all countries. So obviously there's some ultra orthodox that are 52:32.220 --> 52:40.940 anti Zionist as well. But ultimately, these are more fundamentalists sects of this same religion. 52:45.740 --> 52:51.580 They are going to be the only generation, like the next generation is going to be entirely 52:51.580 --> 52:56.700 comprised or overwhelmingly comprised of more far-right elements in Israeli society. We've 52:56.700 --> 53:03.260 already seen the Israeli politics change as a consequence of this. When you look at the 53:03.260 --> 53:07.380 younger, when you look at the youth vote in Israel, the youth vote is actually further 53:07.380 --> 53:15.500 to the right than the elderly vote. It's unlike anything else. It's unlike any other country. 53:15.500 --> 53:20.020 If you look at the youth vote in Israel, the youth actually vote overwhelmingly in favor 53:20.020 --> 53:26.420 of Itamar-Bengivir over Bezalos-Montage, for example. There's this distinction between 53:26.420 --> 53:28.980 the two because they think Bezalos-Montage is not radical enough. 53:32.100 --> 53:35.940 Isn't that crazy? 53:35.940 --> 53:51.060 Anyway, that's what my reference was to Israeli society and the demographic changes that are 53:51.060 --> 53:53.100 taking place in Israeli society. 53:53.100 --> 54:00.900 Orthodox psychopaths with a nuclear arsenal, Mao Zedong is one of the great leaders of 54:00.900 --> 54:08.960 this world. I finally framed the Cutie Cinderella newspaper from 9-11 the morning of 9-12, the 54:08.960 --> 54:11.480 newspaper right there. 54:11.480 --> 54:15.720 That is controversial and far left streamer Hassan Piker, who has built a platform on 54:15.720 --> 54:21.800 anti-American, anti-Israel rhetoric, and is a massive, massive following and doing so. 54:21.800 --> 54:26.800 But who is Hassan Piker and how did he get so much influence? Let's take a look. Hassan 54:26.800 --> 54:29.320 Piker is born in New Jersey. 54:29.320 --> 54:37.840 This is crazy. They dedicated the, the power wall, they dedicated the power wall to my, 54:37.840 --> 54:45.040 to my, uh, rise into the power. Like I'm, like I'm a, uh, a fucking far away dictator. 54:45.040 --> 54:51.000 Okay. And in a, in a Marxist Leninist party that, uh, uh, seized power over, uh, with 54:51.000 --> 54:56.320 like military means or something. Like we did a coup d'etat and we took over and, you 54:56.320 --> 55:04.800 I run Burkina Faso or something. Like what the fuck? I am an American Twitch streamer, okay? 55:05.840 --> 55:12.640 I'm not running for office. I'm just an American Twitch streamer who has a political perspective 55:12.640 --> 55:20.240 that some, especially in the halls of power, find to be threatening, okay? And it's understandable 55:20.240 --> 55:26.000 that they consider it to be threatening because they're not exactly up to share any of that power, 55:26.000 --> 55:31.920 any of those resources, they wanna continue to consolidate, okay? So there is a threat to them, 55:31.920 --> 55:37.680 and if you are a servant of capital, like Fox News is, like many in mainstream, 55:39.280 --> 55:46.400 in many of our mainstream outlets are, of course, you find this to be a significant threat, 55:46.400 --> 55:52.400 a real existential danger. I don't think it has to be that way. But if you're wondering why this 55:52.400 --> 55:57.600 This is happening. If you're wondering why Fox News is covering me like this while I'm 55:57.600 --> 56:04.000 gone, well, there's a reason for it. It's because their bosses and their bosses' bosses, 56:04.000 --> 56:10.000 I guess, find the level of influence that I have in American politics to be an ever-present 56:10.000 --> 56:17.440 danger to their profit margins, of course. 56:17.440 --> 56:19.880 But it is very funny. 56:19.880 --> 56:29.280 He has family ties, you recognize this guy, he entered political media as the young Turks 56:29.280 --> 56:36.280 co-founders nephew that's Sink Uyghur who you remember very much following in the footsteps 56:36.280 --> 56:42.360 of Hasan Piker starts building an online empire turning his daily stream that everybody from 56:42.360 --> 56:47.200 to have Abdul-al-Sayed wants to be on AOC. 56:47.200 --> 56:49.540 And he turned these live streams into an audience 56:49.540 --> 56:52.440 of 10 million followers, 56:52.440 --> 56:54.840 part of why he is so front and center 56:54.840 --> 56:56.280 as a voice of young Democrats. 56:56.280 --> 56:58.880 His political access with major progressive stars 56:58.880 --> 57:00.080 appear on his show. 57:00.080 --> 57:01.480 They're literally like, 57:01.480 --> 57:03.800 it's like Joe Rogan trying to get on his show. 57:03.800 --> 57:06.720 If you are a far left progressive Democrat, 57:06.720 --> 57:10.000 his radical record though cannot be denied. 57:10.000 --> 57:11.560 He's called religious shoes inbred, 57:11.560 --> 57:17.120 defended how Moss continues to do that and apologize after saying that America deserved 57:17.120 --> 57:24.240 9-11. In the latest firestorm, address college Democrats in a Mao style suit. Look at that. 57:24.240 --> 57:29.460 In its interesting guy. 57:29.460 --> 57:40.720 How was that? He went from implying that I appreciated 9-11 to, and he wore a suit and 57:40.720 --> 57:46.280 it's fucked up. What a high note to end it on, man. 57:46.280 --> 57:52.520 Because just think the list of pro-America conservative speakers that have been booted 57:52.520 --> 57:57.200 from college campuses across the country is too long to list. It would take a half an 57:57.200 --> 58:02.800 hour to lay them out. And yet here, college Democrats want this highly controversial, 58:02.800 --> 58:06.920 anti-American, anti-Semitic person to address them. 58:06.920 --> 58:13.540 Well, so how did Hassan piker become a leading voice for young liberals while next guest is a young Democrat 58:13.540 --> 58:19.680 That's what Katie calling on his generation for platforming piker. He says that is reprehensible 58:19.680 --> 58:23.340 He's also the president of young Democrats at mass of Massachusetts 58:23.760 --> 58:24.900 Jack 58:24.900 --> 58:26.500 Parenick joint 58:26.500 --> 58:32.100 There's something really funny about this because I have no idea who this guy is and I assume this guy is not even like 58:32.100 --> 58:36.300 Part of the college Democrats of America. This is like an entirely separate group, right? 58:36.920 --> 58:54.040 I don't know who this guy is, but it is very funny that he's just like going on 58:54.040 --> 59:01.600 fascist news, going on the reactionary mega propaganda apparatus to disavow 59:01.600 --> 59:20.800 his left flank. Okay. I mean, sure. He's a DGG guy. Awesome. Great. Who cares? You guys 59:20.800 --> 59:26.200 don't have to understand something. Okay. Young Democrats of America is different than 59:26.200 --> 59:32.120 the College Democrats of America, first of all. Young Democrats are part of the DNC. They're 59:32.120 --> 59:36.120 funded by the Democratic Party. So is the College Democrats, even though they're not very well funded 59:36.120 --> 59:43.640 by the DNC. But what you have to remember, it doesn't even matter that this guy is an orbiter 59:43.640 --> 59:52.120 of a sex pest or anything like that. I don't even give a shit about the DGG sex pestony affiliations. 59:52.120 --> 01:00:05.240 What he's doing here is going on box news as the face of a young Democratic Party organization, 01:00:05.240 --> 01:00:10.320 a part of the DNC apparatus, to attack their left flank. 01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:13.640 You're never supposed to do this, okay? 01:00:13.640 --> 01:00:18.000 You're not supposed to do this. 01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:23.040 You should, under no circumstances, find yourself, especially if you feel like you want to have 01:00:23.040 --> 01:00:27.040 a future in the Democratic Party, or if you want to have a future in any kind of opposition 01:00:27.040 --> 01:00:32.080 party, you should never geniflect to MAGA. 01:00:32.080 --> 01:00:36.360 You should never cede on their framing, your opposition's framing in general. 01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:43.000 You should never turn around and collaborate with them. 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.000 You should not do that at all. 01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:49.240 As a matter of fact, one of the few people that does this consistently is John Fetterman. 01:00:49.240 --> 01:00:54.560 You don't want to be in that, in the ranks with John Fetterman, especially if you feel 01:00:54.560 --> 01:00:58.320 like you have a future in the Democratic Party, okay? 01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:01.400 So now, Jack, welcome to the show. 01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:08.160 So you say that young Democrats should be careful about, as you call it, platforming 01:01:08.160 --> 01:01:11.240 Hassan Piker and fighting into universities. 01:01:11.240 --> 01:01:12.240 Why do you say that? 01:01:12.240 --> 01:01:15.480 Should we have more open discussion and on both sides, 01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:18.800 or you're saying he shouldn't be allowed on campus? 01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:22.360 Well, I totally believe in going places 01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:23.640 where you have to talk to people 01:01:23.640 --> 01:01:26.240 that don't necessarily think the way that you do. 01:01:26.240 --> 01:01:28.440 You know, it's why I'm here on Fox News this morning. 01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:30.320 But I think the most important thing to understand 01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.080 about Hassan Piker is that he is someone 01:01:32.080 --> 01:01:33.760 who is just totally reprehensible, 01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:35.400 but he does have this large following. 01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:36.840 And I think one of the most important things 01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:38.680 that Democrats can do, go out there, 01:01:38.680 --> 01:01:40.600 talk to his followers, talk to the people 01:01:40.600 --> 01:01:42.680 who are disaffected with both parties 01:01:42.680 --> 01:01:44.240 and are listening to him. 01:01:44.240 --> 01:01:46.040 But platforming him, I think, was something 01:01:46.040 --> 01:01:47.040 that was almost immediately meant to be a backlash. 01:01:47.040 --> 01:01:48.920 Why do you think he's popular, Jack? 01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:51.980 There's a lot of people right now 01:01:51.980 --> 01:01:53.280 who don't feel comfortable embracing 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:54.440 either party establishment, 01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:56.320 and we see that on the left and the right. 01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:58.240 I think Hassan Piker sounds a lot more 01:01:58.240 --> 01:02:01.160 like radical figures on the right, like Nick Fuentes. 01:02:01.160 --> 01:02:02.640 Then he does like a lot of Democrats, 01:02:02.640 --> 01:02:04.760 and I think he said it best himself. 01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:06.240 He came to this convention to speak 01:02:06.240 --> 01:02:08.160 and used half of his time defending why 01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:09.480 almost everyone hates him, 01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:10.480 in the other half of this time. 01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:17.520 This doesn't make sense. 01:02:17.520 --> 01:02:20.440 You can't on the one hand say I'm unbelievably popular 01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:22.520 and I've been able to capture the attention 01:02:22.520 --> 01:02:26.920 of a lot of disillusioned young people 01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:30.000 that do not like either party and then turn around 01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:32.640 and say he everybody hates him actually. 01:02:34.120 --> 01:02:35.100 Like, which is it? 01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:38.180 Do I hold the levers of power? 01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:50.120 Am I this unfathomably popular person or am I a guy that everybody hates? 01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:54.680 It doesn't really make sense. 01:02:54.680 --> 01:03:10.680 There are, this is, I would say this is the last gasp of a dying movement in general, 01:03:10.680 --> 01:03:15.640 like liberalism is cratering in support, in popularity, it's been the lay of the land 01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:22.680 for almost the past century, right? And that's part of the reason why it's kind of falling apart. 01:03:24.680 --> 01:03:30.640 The reason why it's kind of falling apart is because people understandably attribute 01:03:30.640 --> 01:03:36.160 all of the current struggles that they're experiencing back to liberalism, because liberalism 01:03:36.160 --> 01:03:41.780 has been the monoculture, liberalism has also been, liberal capitalism has also been the 01:03:41.780 --> 01:03:43.600 only game in town. 01:03:43.600 --> 01:03:48.600 So even if people don't have the political education to fully comprehend that they might 01:03:48.600 --> 01:03:51.880 personally not be liberals, they might be something a little bit more radical, quote, 01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:54.000 unquote, radical, or whatever, it doesn't really matter. 01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:57.820 They just look at it and they go, this is the establishment, the establishment has not delivered 01:03:57.820 --> 01:03:58.820 for me. 01:03:58.820 --> 01:04:03.620 I may have even voted for an anti-establishment candidate in the form of Donald Trump to break 01:04:03.620 --> 01:04:10.320 this duopoly with the false assumption that Donald Trump was going to be different. 01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:16.600 And my point always has been that there is a collaborative effort in certain instances 01:04:16.600 --> 01:04:22.440 between some in the establishment on the Democratic Party and the establishment on the Republican 01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:23.440 Party. 01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:28.760 proof in the pudding. This basically proves the argument. When you go on Fox News to attack 01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:33.760 your left flank and say, oh, his politics are odious. He's very popular, but also very, 01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:38.760 very unpopular at the same time. And we should listen to him. We should talk to his audience, 01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:43.120 but we shouldn't actually platform him. You're not making a coherent through line. You don't 01:04:43.120 --> 01:04:47.760 have a coherent through line in your ideology. It's just simply attack the left flank and 01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:54.060 you will go to unbelievable lengths to do so, including directly collaborating with the 01:04:54.060 --> 01:04:58.180 fascist reactionary, MAGA Trump news outlet. 01:04:58.180 --> 01:05:02.220 You are now going on the same news outlet that defends the Epstein class. 01:05:02.220 --> 01:05:06.900 You're going on the same news outlet that defends robbing people of their healthcare, 01:05:06.900 --> 01:05:10.900 that defends going to war, endless wars. 01:05:10.900 --> 01:05:23.740 of a sudden, you find yourself aligned with some true, truly toxic, truly odious people 01:05:23.740 --> 01:05:25.900 and some really reactionary politics. 01:05:25.900 --> 01:05:29.260 And that's the issue, right? 01:05:29.260 --> 01:05:31.300 That's the issue. 01:05:31.300 --> 01:05:32.700 The question is very simple. 01:05:32.700 --> 01:05:41.540 Do you think I am a bigger threat to American politics than the entire MAGA machine? 01:05:41.540 --> 01:05:44.860 Because now you're going to the belly of the beast. 01:05:44.860 --> 01:05:47.980 And for many liberals, I think the answer is pretty simple. 01:05:47.980 --> 01:05:50.660 They've already chosen which side they're on. 01:05:50.660 --> 01:05:58.500 They do not want to be on the side of the working class, they do not want to be on the 01:05:58.500 --> 01:06:04.020 side that that centers the needs of the working class at the heart of their politics, they would 01:06:04.020 --> 01:06:09.140 much rather, what is this? Oh, thank you. What? Okay. 01:06:11.700 --> 01:06:19.780 They would much rather side with the fascists than they would with their left flank. 01:06:19.780 --> 01:06:30.140 And part of the reason why, I mean, this is part of the reason why the Democrats have 01:06:30.140 --> 01:06:32.420 been objectively unpopular, right? 01:06:32.420 --> 01:06:39.020 Like, in many respects, those to our left that routinely criticize us, that routinely 01:06:39.020 --> 01:06:48.140 criticize us and tell us that we are actually rehabilitating the liberal Zionist genocidal 01:06:48.140 --> 01:06:53.500 Democratic Party's image, there is a little bit of, there is a little bit of truth in 01:06:53.500 --> 01:06:58.300 that criticism, okay? Not entirely correct, obviously, because what kind of Democrats 01:06:58.300 --> 01:07:02.340 are you electing is the real question here. Who are you electing? Are you using the Democratic 01:07:02.340 --> 01:07:10.700 Party as a platform to reach a broader consensus, reach a broader audience, reach the masses 01:07:10.700 --> 01:07:15.540 with your politics, or are you actually rehabilitating the Democratic Party is the real question? 01:07:15.540 --> 01:07:22.180 Now, aside from that though, the criticism is somewhat not unfounded, partially because 01:07:22.180 --> 01:07:29.180 there is an element of breathing life back into the Democratic Party through these grassroots 01:07:29.180 --> 01:07:33.040 movements that we have been able to build. 01:07:33.040 --> 01:07:40.180 Not only are we establishing a base, not only are we establishing a machine, but we're also 01:07:40.180 --> 01:07:44.820 associating these popular politics with the Democratic Party, even if the Democratic Party 01:07:44.820 --> 01:07:53.380 fights back tooth and nail. So from that perspective, this is unbelievably stupid. You're attacking 01:07:53.380 --> 01:07:59.100 the grassroots mobilization that's taking place that's like unironically rehabilitating 01:07:59.100 --> 01:08:04.940 the image of the Democratic Party a little bit, right? The association with Democratic 01:08:04.940 --> 01:08:09.500 socialism for Democrats is not a negative one. It's actually a positive one for the 01:08:09.500 --> 01:08:13.100 broader national party 01:08:13.100 --> 01:08:13.940 anyway 01:08:13.940 --> 01:08:16.060 i got a few minutes after the democratic party 01:08:16.060 --> 01:08:18.940 uh... and i think that that's you know the kind of kind of uh... speech that 01:08:18.940 --> 01:08:20.580 isn't helpful to the democrats 01:08:20.580 --> 01:08:24.420 but it is helpful in the to get an even larger number of people disaffected 01:08:24.420 --> 01:08:27.760 uh... but i think that the desire to go out and reach out to the people 01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:30.700 uh... who are listening to him right now is a good one in the college thems if 01:08:30.700 --> 01:08:34.380 they continue that approach of talking to people who are very skeptical of the 01:08:34.380 --> 01:08:35.420 democratic party 01:08:35.420 --> 01:08:38.060 are on a good path to regain more supporters 01:08:38.060 --> 01:08:42.200 well you know jack first of all we are grateful to you for coming on and 01:08:42.200 --> 01:08:44.940 talking about this and we appreciate your 01:08:44.940 --> 01:08:49.040 uh... willingness to to engage uh... it's a very important part of our our 01:08:49.040 --> 01:08:52.360 country and i get what you're saying about how he 01:08:52.360 --> 01:08:55.460 uh... there are a lot of people in the in the world who feel disaffected but 01:08:55.460 --> 01:08:58.220 this guy talks about very specific things 01:08:58.220 --> 01:09:00.860 what is it that uh... that 01:09:00.860 --> 01:09:05.020 from you know a lot of young people obviously what is it 01:09:05.020 --> 01:09:07.820 draws people to the specific things 01:09:07.820 --> 01:09:11.760 that Hassan Piker talks about that you find so, 01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:13.300 that we all find so repeller. 01:09:15.160 --> 01:09:17.280 Yeah, I mean, I think so many people have lost faith 01:09:17.280 --> 01:09:19.200 in the ability of the American political system 01:09:19.200 --> 01:09:22.440 to effect change that his calls for a revolution 01:09:22.440 --> 01:09:23.880 become appealing because people feel 01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:25.160 that that's the only way. 01:09:25.160 --> 01:09:28.360 And I think that this goes to the need for Democrats 01:09:28.360 --> 01:09:30.480 to really show that they're delivering. 01:09:30.480 --> 01:09:32.160 But I think Hassan in particular, 01:09:32.160 --> 01:09:34.760 part of the reason why he's just such an awful speaker 01:09:34.760 --> 01:09:36.720 and a messenger for this voice, 01:09:36.720 --> 01:09:39.400 particularly for college democrats one of the things i heard a lot about there 01:09:39.400 --> 01:09:40.520 was his objection to 01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:43.520 you know this is someone who thinks the rape on college campuses is hilarious 01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:45.040 and something to be joked about 01:09:45.040 --> 01:09:47.920 uh... it was a message that particularly young people 01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:51.080 uh... you know it was really helpful to uh... so many of the people who didn't 01:09:51.080 --> 01:09:55.440 know who he was before you know all that's yeah no he's uh... this this makes 01:09:55.440 --> 01:09:59.720 sense as to why he's the fucking uh... sex past any orbiter 01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:01.440 that's uh... that's not true 01:10:01.440 --> 01:10:02.560 obviously 01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:04.000 now he's he's 01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:05.520 he is using 01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:10.800 My criticisms of Liberty University, which Fox News has defended over and over again, saying, 01:10:11.360 --> 01:10:16.800 yeah, this is a sex-past any mutant talking point, one of those talking points that mutates into 01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:25.200 something totally ridiculous. Liberty University did a anti-title, anti-title 10, created an anti-title 01:10:25.200 --> 01:10:30.640 10 college campus. And my criticism of that turned into, who's on poker wants white rich 01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:35.440 College girls would be date rape bullshit. It's completely fucking made up 01:10:36.400 --> 01:10:38.400 It is completely made up 01:10:38.400 --> 01:10:42.080 Or i title nine. Sorry not title 10s. I apologize title nine 01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:43.600 um 01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:45.600 That's what it is 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:50.720 It was my criticism of of a college campus that was expressly designed around 01:10:51.280 --> 01:10:56.320 Uh, not allowing title nine not allowing any sort of like date rape or rape, uh, uh 01:10:56.320 --> 01:11:00.880 investigations take place on college campus to basically cordon off all the 01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:08.800 rapes that are self-selecting and self-identifying to go there. I wonder 01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:11.640 if that space even stops and thinks about why they can only get their slander 01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:17.160 on Fox News? No, I don't think they care. I don't think they care about it. I think 01:11:17.160 --> 01:11:30.680 they are actively collaborating with the fascists to to clean up their left flank. 01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:36.840 Like this person's entire purpose here stops enemy videos about Israeli tourists being 01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:40.640 evil. Okay. I'm not going to watch that right now. Steve's for real. Please, please just 01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:45.920 take a day off. Okay. I just got back. There's a million things I'm going to cover. I'm not 01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:53.440 kind of look at that right now. Yeah, no, this is, this is cut a liberal and a fascist bleeds 01:11:53.440 --> 01:12:02.800 in real life. Okay, this is what's going on. This is, this is precisely what's taking place. 01:12:04.160 --> 01:12:09.360 For, for these guys, they only care about destroying their left flank and they will go 01:12:09.360 --> 01:12:14.080 to any lengths they can, they will collaborate with the fascist administration as they are doing here. 01:12:14.080 --> 01:12:24.560 Okay, with the hopes that the Trump movement only focuses their animosity, their enmity, 01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:31.440 and their ridiculous legal pursuits that are objectively illegal when they prosecute political 01:12:31.440 --> 01:12:37.280 dissidents to communist, socialist, anarchists, to these guys' left flank. They don't realize that 01:12:37.280 --> 01:12:42.480 this actually will inevitably turn on them as well. This machine historically has turned 01:12:42.480 --> 01:12:47.120 down the liberals that have collaborated and cooperated with the fascists, and it will once again, 01:12:47.120 --> 01:12:52.880 but they're too stupid and they're too short-sighted, or perhaps they're just straightforwardly fascist 01:12:53.440 --> 01:12:59.440 and will become loud and proud advocates of the fascist movement, and they won't remain 01:12:59.440 --> 01:13:07.040 Democrats once that turn takes place. Okay. 01:13:13.040 --> 01:13:16.320 Seeing him come out dressed as Matt was really helpful to a lot of people to 01:13:16.320 --> 01:13:20.880 know that this was not someone serious. Yeah. It was there to talk and it was you 01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:24.280 know people streamed out of the room. You can't see it in that shot there but 01:13:24.280 --> 01:13:28.000 people streamed out of the room so much so they had to close the doors to the 01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:35.680 auditorium. Yeah, he's just making, uh, he's just making shit up, which is so crazy. Like, 01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:42.880 none of this happened. None of the things that he's saying that I have said are real, 01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:46.560 none of the things that happened in that room. Like I got a fucking standing ovation. You can 01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:52.640 see in the shop, but this is make belief. Okay. Yeah. Everyone was, uh, everyone that was off 01:13:52.640 --> 01:13:57.200 camera was actually in agreement with me. They were really frustrated about, uh, the way Hassan 01:13:57.200 --> 01:14:04.400 was talking about the Democratic Party. But yeah, yeah, they did show the crowd. It's on the stream. 01:14:08.320 --> 01:14:15.520 Not that it matters. Why? Because again, I am criticizing the form here, okay? I'm criticizing 01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:21.520 the function and I'm criticizing the form. I'm criticizing the medium that this person is choosing 01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:36.760 to lean into, okay? Because it's fucking unbelievable. It's unbelievable and utterly unacceptable 01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:42.880 that someone who chooses to associate themselves with the youth wing of the Democratic Party 01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:50.240 would actively go on Fox News to criticize another youth wing of the Democratic Party 01:14:50.240 --> 01:14:56.240 and to criticize a person to their left flank. Okay? 01:14:56.240 --> 01:15:01.760 It's completely unacceptable. 01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:07.840 Stop the mass departure. Four whole state delegations walked out in their entirety. 01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:11.440 And it was funny that congressional candidates in our plus 30 districts 01:15:11.440 --> 01:15:14.400 got 10 times the applause that he did because people kind of know that he's 01:15:14.400 --> 01:15:17.840 a hackster not to be taken care of. 01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:23.440 The fact that he is a fraud, does that matter if you've got millions of people who are listening to him and following him? 01:15:25.440 --> 01:15:31.640 Yeah, I mean absolutely. You have to go out and talk to the people who think that, you know, right now there is no hope in the Democratic Party. 01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:33.640 So they're looking for figures like Piker. 01:15:34.140 --> 01:15:34.640 Yeah. 01:15:35.240 --> 01:15:39.740 What's really, what's really interesting about this is like, are you going to present that hope? 01:15:39.740 --> 01:15:40.640 Is the hope, 01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:42.440 is the hope 01:15:42.940 --> 01:15:44.840 for new Democrats 01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:49.320 charting a new path forward, going to be doing the exact same thing that, you know, Hilary 01:15:49.320 --> 01:15:53.640 Rodham Clinton did, doing the exact same thing that the establishment has done over and over 01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:56.280 again to varying degrees of failure. 01:15:56.280 --> 01:16:00.320 Do you see what I mean? 01:16:00.320 --> 01:16:04.200 Like you don't have a vision in the affirmative. 01:16:04.200 --> 01:16:08.920 So much so that you are choosing to collaborate with fascists, okay? 01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:13.800 You're choosing to go on the fascist platform to rail against your left flank. 01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:24.880 What is your vision? What is your vision for a better future? How are you going to chart 01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:29.960 a vision in the affirmative for a better path forward that will get people excited, that 01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:35.120 will get people off their asses and go out and vote, go out and actually push the Democratic 01:16:35.120 --> 01:16:36.120 Party? 01:16:36.120 --> 01:16:41.000 What's the vision? Better things are not possible. Would you ever critique moderate Dems? Of 01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:45.560 Of course, I critique moderate Dems all the time, but my criticism of moderate Dems and 01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:50.880 the right wing of the party is the same exact criticisms that I have for the Republican Party. 01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:52.640 It's not about the aesthetics. 01:16:52.640 --> 01:17:00.960 It's not about the fact that I said on Fox News, oh, if I ever went on Fox News, I would 01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:06.240 have a lot more to say about Fox News, even if I were to actually critique the moderate 01:17:06.240 --> 01:17:11.240 wing of the party, I would not agree with the Fox News criticisms of the Democratic Party 01:17:11.240 --> 01:17:15.200 broadly because it's inappropriate, because it's not true. 01:17:15.200 --> 01:17:20.480 As much as I have, and I would love to go on fucking Fox News, they just won't have 01:17:20.480 --> 01:17:24.720 me on, they would much rather have people like this on. 01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:31.560 You will not find me agreeing with Fox News on Fox News, okay? 01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:33.600 That's the problem. 01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:40.000 Like what he could have said here, what he could have said here, if he was an actual, 01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:43.680 if he was actually invested in like a big tent or something like that, what he could 01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:45.000 have said here is this. 01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:48.040 Passant says a lot of things that I don't agree with, but he says a lot of things that 01:17:48.040 --> 01:17:49.640 are truthful. 01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:54.800 For example, he says that the Republican Party is a firm and committed defender of the Epstein 01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:55.800 class. 01:17:55.800 --> 01:18:00.920 And this is exactly the kind of odious politics that Fox News actually defends vociferously. 01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:08.080 Okay, so let's not talk about a Twitch streamer that has a grassroots momentum backing him 01:18:08.080 --> 01:18:11.280 or a movement that is actually breathing life back into the Democratic Party, even if I 01:18:11.280 --> 01:18:14.440 don't agree with everything that they're saying and doing. 01:18:14.440 --> 01:18:19.080 Ultimately, the real problem is those who control all of the levers of power in this 01:18:19.080 --> 01:18:23.680 country would have, which happens to be the Republican Party, right? 01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:26.520 The Republican Party controls every branch of the government. 01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:29.780 They've actually filled the courts all the way up to the Supreme Court with some of the 01:18:29.780 --> 01:18:36.060 worst, most reactionary judges. They are dominating American politics and Americans are sick and 01:18:36.060 --> 01:18:37.060 tired of it. 01:18:37.060 --> 01:18:42.300 And they're now finally recognizing that voting for the Republicans, voting for the anti-establishment, 01:18:42.300 --> 01:18:50.340 the fake right wing, sloppulous, is not actually going to change the system. It's not actually 01:18:50.340 --> 01:18:58.660 changing the system for the better at all. And Fox News has been defending this system, 01:18:58.660 --> 01:19:02.900 the establishment. Republicans for the longest time have been able to present themselves as 01:19:02.900 --> 01:19:08.900 anti-establishment. Democrats, I think, need to learn from that. They need to figure out how 01:19:09.460 --> 01:19:13.220 the Republicans have been able to do this. Like, there is a way to critique me, 01:19:13.220 --> 01:19:19.060 even if you went on Fox News, okay? But he's not doing that. He's just there to 01:19:19.060 --> 01:19:27.280 to rip apart slander smear at the left flank movement, okay? 01:19:27.280 --> 01:19:34.800 That's it. He wants to be, his lifelong dream I suspect is to be a corporate stooge, a Haley 01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:42.120 Stevens type, propped up by the establishment and moneyed interest and never understanding 01:19:42.120 --> 01:19:48.600 why the Democrats keep losing. You are being played a fool. You're a useful idiot for the 01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:50.460 right 01:19:50.460 --> 01:19:54.680 we're talking about the ability to affect broad change i think the reality is 01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:57.880 though though that there could not be anyone less politically influence of all 01:19:57.880 --> 01:19:58.640 right now 01:19:58.640 --> 01:20:01.840 uh... and it's funny even in you know i i've talked to a lot of people 01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:05.160 uh... you know i call this comments reprehensible uh... friend of mine reminded 01:20:05.160 --> 01:20:08.480 me that zoran mondami said the same thing about his comments and i really 01:20:08.480 --> 01:20:10.200 think that uh... he's you know 01:20:10.200 --> 01:20:13.520 been a very successful person in uniting the democratic party against his 01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:22.800 Yeah, they're like, no, no, no, Zoran is good. Hassan is bad. True. Fine. I'll take it. AOC is 01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:27.760 good. Hassan is too radical. Keep pointing to all the, next up, they'll be like, Abdul 01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:36.080 El Sayed is good. Hassan is too radical. It's fine. I'll take it. No, I'll take it. Yeah, 01:20:36.080 --> 01:20:43.360 all of these guys, all of these people that I work with actively, that I've propped up, 01:20:44.400 --> 01:20:51.680 they all, that means that they are becoming undeniable within the system, within the ranks 01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:57.520 of the party. They've become so unfathomably popular amongst the base that he can't actively 01:20:57.520 --> 01:21:05.680 shit on them. I'm sure before Zoran ran, I'm sure before Zoran became the winner of the Democratic 01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:10.240 party, or even after Zoran became the winner of the Democratic party, he still probably had 01:21:10.240 --> 01:21:15.920 his opinions on him, his negative associations, his negative opinions with Zoran and his politics. 01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:23.040 But now he can't say anything about it. Why? Because DSA is becoming undeniable, okay? That's it. 01:21:27.440 --> 01:21:31.760 Yeah, John Federman and Jared Polis, Fox and the GOP's favorite Democrats. 01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:34.880 Every Democrat that falls out of favor will then go 01:21:37.040 --> 01:21:43.760 To Fox news to run there and to say oh, we hate this left flank shit. We hate this stuff. We hate it so much 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:45.840 It's like if you did 01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:51.280 If you did and if you actually had the the overarching 01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:57.040 Uh approval of the entire democratic parties based on your side, you wouldn't have to go to Fox news and cry 01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:00.000 Okay 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:03.440 These candidates would not even win. 01:22:03.440 --> 01:22:04.480 My dad even called us out. 01:22:04.480 --> 01:22:06.560 He thought it was strange that Fox News was praising. 01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:07.680 They hated like three months ago. 01:22:07.680 --> 01:22:09.760 Exactly. 01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:11.760 It's anti-Semitic and hateful comments. 01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:13.680 Well, and Jack, you know, as you mentioned, 01:22:13.680 --> 01:22:16.640 he said in his speech to the Democrats, 01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:19.360 college Democrats, that he is coming for the establishment 01:22:19.360 --> 01:22:21.440 and with such a following, as Charlie points out, 01:22:21.440 --> 01:22:22.480 we'll see where this goes. 01:22:22.480 --> 01:22:24.400 Jack Pernick, thank you for joining us. 01:22:24.400 --> 01:22:27.280 We want to have you come back as we continue to follow this. 01:22:27.280 --> 01:22:28.400 Have a great weekend. 01:22:28.400 --> 01:22:29.040 Thank you. 01:22:29.040 --> 01:22:29.680 Thanks, Jack. 01:22:29.680 --> 01:22:32.800 All right, be sure to like and subscribe for 01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:42.400 In reality his negative views are on probably continue for months even after he got elected mayor until his record was undeniable. Yes, these guys are all 01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:45.520 These guys are all fraudulent 01:22:46.400 --> 01:22:48.000 But it's good 01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.560 That means we are fucking winning. Okay 01:22:52.880 --> 01:22:59.440 That means we're winning is that simple i'm one person i don't give a shit if uh, if i'm the tank 01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:07.840 Yeah. I saw the news nation, uh, DSA co-chair was asked about me as well. Okay. It's so funny 01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:12.880 that they were like demanding that the democratic socialists of America disavow me as well, 01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:19.560 which I find very funny. 01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:22.720 What about this comment? What about that comment? Do you disavow this comment? Do you disavow 01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:31.680 that comment, DSA co-chair, why don't you disavow Hassan Piker? It's like, here's the thing. Okay, 01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:38.000 we have to remain strong. We have to remain consistent. We have to be disciplined. Okay. 01:23:40.720 --> 01:23:44.880 That's part of the reason why even if I hear something on the DSA platform that I don't, 01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:49.920 you know, fully agree with or think is like, optically not the best or whatever the fuck, 01:23:49.920 --> 01:24:01.120 I will still stand by my allies, okay? You are not disciplined? Yes, I shaved. I am not disciplined, 01:24:01.120 --> 01:24:12.600 exactly. The reason why, the reason why I stand by my comrades, my allies in the Democratic Socialist 01:24:12.600 --> 01:24:21.720 of America is because they are far closer to me, if not damn near identical with my world 01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:30.040 view than even the right wing centrist Democrats are and certainly the reactionary right. 01:24:30.040 --> 01:24:37.520 We have to have a principled stance. We can have our minor disagreements. We can have our 01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:43.840 minor disagreements. But ultimately, if we start disavowing one another, then there is no movement. 01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:51.440 Okay? I think that kind of stuff is silly. It's one of the most toxic aspects of the left. 01:24:52.240 --> 01:24:58.240 Okay? One of the most toxic aspects of the left is constantly seeking some semblance of purity 01:24:58.240 --> 01:25:04.400 by those who never even demonstrate that purity or demonstrate the same moral standards that 01:25:04.400 --> 01:25:07.840 that they're applying to you, okay? 01:25:07.840 --> 01:25:10.480 You think I'm going to sit there 01:25:10.480 --> 01:25:13.720 and listen to a goddamn fascist demand 01:25:13.720 --> 01:25:17.800 that I disavow people who are closest to me politically? 01:25:17.800 --> 01:25:19.960 Are you out of your fucking mind? 01:25:22.280 --> 01:25:23.600 Are you insane? 01:25:26.480 --> 01:25:27.960 Are you out of your mind? 01:25:27.960 --> 01:25:29.240 That's ridiculous. 01:25:34.400 --> 01:25:41.920 That's why we should stop calling people ultra is exactly like the call on the left tankies. 01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:48.640 Yes, the problem is there are records, okay? There are records if they just shut the fuck 01:25:48.640 --> 01:25:56.160 up about how reformist the Democratic Socialists of America are, then I would never, there is, 01:25:56.160 --> 01:25:59.760 for years and years, okay? People have called me a tanky. 01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:03.680 I don't care. I don't care about that. People have called me an ultra. People have called 01:26:03.680 --> 01:26:08.160 me a taggy. They still are doing it. They're doing it every day. They're trying to turn 01:26:08.160 --> 01:26:13.440 me into a boogeyman. The problem is, the people who consider themselves to be further to my 01:26:13.440 --> 01:26:20.840 left don't recognize what's going on. And they just constantly are trying to destroy 01:26:20.840 --> 01:26:27.920 what exists of like left mobilization in this fucking country, okay? That's the problem. 01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:30.340 So I'm consistent on this. 01:26:30.340 --> 01:26:32.840 I'm consistent on this. 01:26:32.840 --> 01:26:36.440 There are those law, come on law, wrecking the DNC. 01:26:36.440 --> 01:26:38.780 Yes, dude, the DNC, that's what we're doing here. 01:26:38.780 --> 01:26:40.280 This is what I mean. 01:26:40.280 --> 01:26:43.000 This is what I'm talking about, okay? 01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:49.040 Come on, man, the DSA left is not trying to destroy the left. 01:26:49.040 --> 01:26:50.040 What? 01:26:50.040 --> 01:26:54.800 No, I'm not fucking criticizing the DSA left at all. 01:26:54.800 --> 01:27:03.520 I'm talking about are people who instead of like the other guy, that wasn't the DSA left 01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:05.380 that I just banned, okay? 01:27:05.380 --> 01:27:09.020 What I just banned in that situation is someone behaving like a fucking wrecker. 01:27:09.020 --> 01:27:16.460 When you have, when DSA itself has the entire federal apparatus constantly surveilling everything 01:27:16.460 --> 01:27:22.420 that they do, when I have the State Department actively calling me out, and there are people 01:27:22.420 --> 01:27:26.820 who still come in here and they go, no, you're actually not a true revolutionary, fuck you, 01:27:26.820 --> 01:27:31.780 you're actually fake and phony. Focus your sights, train your sights on the fascists. 01:27:31.780 --> 01:27:38.500 What the fuck are you doing? Immediately choosing to attack your closest fucking friends, 01:27:38.500 --> 01:27:43.220 your closest ideological allies in this moment, in this moment where the fascist government 01:27:43.220 --> 01:27:50.660 is actively trying to basically throw every single political dissonant into concentration 01:27:50.660 --> 01:27:55.700 camps is unbelievably annoying. It's friendly fire. Of course, I'm going to yell about that. 01:27:56.500 --> 01:28:03.300 I just gave you an example of people to my right within the DSA right that I do not oppose or 01:28:03.300 --> 01:28:09.380 criticize publicly, even if I have my disagreements with them. And the same goes for people on my 01:28:09.380 --> 01:28:14.420 left as well, people to my left flank, you know, the Maoist Third Worldists and whatnot. 01:28:14.420 --> 01:28:19.420 The only time I ever apply criticism is when they, 01:28:19.420 --> 01:28:22.420 whether they be to my right or to my left, 01:28:22.420 --> 01:28:25.420 are coming after a broad anti-fascist coalition. 01:28:25.420 --> 01:28:27.420 That is what they are wrecking. 01:28:27.420 --> 01:28:30.420 Do you understand? 01:28:37.420 --> 01:28:42.420 It is those who are deeply unserious and do not recognize 01:28:42.420 --> 01:28:50.300 is the necessity for as broad of a movement as possible that will oppose fascism in this 01:28:50.300 --> 01:28:54.380 country that is growing, that I criticize no matter who they are. 01:28:54.380 --> 01:29:00.020 I mean, look, I just criticized a liberal Democrat who's actively coming after the entirety of 01:29:00.020 --> 01:29:01.020 the left flank. 01:29:01.020 --> 01:29:05.380 They don't make any distinction between you or I. Neither does the Republican Party. 01:29:05.380 --> 01:29:08.860 And the Republican Party doesn't even make a distinction between liberals and people 01:29:08.860 --> 01:29:10.980 on our side, okay? 01:29:10.980 --> 01:29:33.420 Is that simple? 01:29:33.420 --> 01:29:41.380 Socialism and Radicalism is simply a vessel to overthrow the U.S. of our country from 01:29:41.380 --> 01:29:42.380 within. 01:29:42.380 --> 01:29:50.020 The plan, as stated in the DSA's chapter, win elections, throw out the Constitution, 01:29:50.020 --> 01:29:55.620 abolish the Senate, abolish the Electoral College, of course you want to stack the courts, 01:29:55.620 --> 01:30:02.300 strip away all powers from the White House and Supreme Court, and then, boom, Democratic 01:30:02.300 --> 01:30:08.700 Socialism class communism just you know regular old that'll be the end of America as we know it 01:30:15.580 --> 01:30:17.580 Where is this 01:30:21.900 --> 01:30:24.940 There was someone talking about the the point of of 01:30:25.500 --> 01:30:29.420 You know record you're wrecking the dnc you're wrecking the organization within the dnc 01:30:29.420 --> 01:30:38.180 If you don't understand what we're trying to do here, and if you can't even comprehend why the Republicans are losing their goddamn minds over this and why the 01:30:38.500 --> 01:30:40.500 center of power in the right wing 01:30:41.460 --> 01:30:47.920 The right wing of the Democratic Party is losing their goddamn minds and they're cooperating with the fucking fascist right in this country 01:30:48.220 --> 01:30:50.220 That's not our fault. Okay? 01:30:50.580 --> 01:30:56.900 If this movement was unimpactful if this movement was simply posturing from the outside 01:30:56.900 --> 01:31:02.020 side, okay? And offering constant critique instead of trying to do something to make 01:31:02.020 --> 01:31:09.060 this change, then yes, this wouldn't be happening right now, okay? I've been saying the same 01:31:09.060 --> 01:31:15.020 things for a decade now. Why am I getting constant round-the-clock coverage from Fox 01:31:15.020 --> 01:31:21.620 News? Okay, there have been moments that I've been featured on Fox News, but never to this 01:31:21.620 --> 01:31:32.180 degree. Why? Why is it that only now are many of the organs of propaganda on the mainstream 01:31:32.180 --> 01:31:38.080 right and the mainstream center right from CNN, CBS and Fox News? Why are they coming 01:31:38.080 --> 01:31:41.380 after me as aggressively as they can? Because they're not coming after me, they're coming 01:31:41.380 --> 01:31:50.460 after all of us, okay? I'm just a figurehead. Even if I don't choose that moniker myself, 01:31:50.460 --> 01:31:53.780 And if I disavow that, it doesn't matter. 01:31:53.780 --> 01:31:55.220 That's the way they're presenting it. 01:31:55.220 --> 01:31:57.820 They're not talking about me when they say this stuff. 01:31:57.820 --> 01:32:01.520 They're talking about anyone that wants to progress in this country. 01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:05.740 Anyone that wants to pull back the Overton window closer to the left. 01:32:05.740 --> 01:32:07.660 Anyone that wants to fight for healthcare. 01:32:07.660 --> 01:32:14.620 Anyone that is even capable or invested in criticizing Donald Trump, okay? 01:32:14.620 --> 01:32:19.540 That is what they choose, what they want to destroy. 01:32:19.540 --> 01:32:28.780 That's their goal. And if you can't comprehend it, I don't know what to tell you. 01:32:28.780 --> 01:32:33.520 That is their goal though. Their goal isn't to just like, you know, section off different 01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:39.860 aspects of the left and offer a critical lens. Their goal is not to make the Democratic party 01:32:39.860 --> 01:32:45.500 more competitive. You can't be stupid enough to believe that, right? 01:32:45.500 --> 01:32:49.360 Do you genuinely believe that? Do you think that these guys are actually invested in making 01:32:49.360 --> 01:32:56.000 the Democratic Party a strong Democratic Party by cutting off their left movement, their 01:32:56.000 --> 01:32:57.860 left flank. 01:32:57.860 --> 01:33:02.240 The Republicans, you think the same Republicans that have been calling Nancy Pelosi a communist 01:33:02.240 --> 01:33:06.120 for the last two decades, all of a sudden now are making that distinction between Nancy 01:33:06.120 --> 01:33:08.040 Pelosi and people like myself? 01:33:08.040 --> 01:33:11.160 Where is that coming from, you think? 01:33:11.160 --> 01:33:16.600 You think Fox News cares about having a strong Democratic Party? 01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:30.760 or do you think they're actively trying to foment discontent within the left by targeting 01:33:30.760 --> 01:33:36.960 the base, by targeting the base, by picking, you know, DSA, its platform, it's too radical, 01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:41.400 someone like myself saying that I'm too radical, I'm too crazy. 01:33:41.400 --> 01:33:48.680 Now, you can vote your way into socialism, but you can't vote your way out of it. 01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:49.680 Sounds extreme? 01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:51.120 Yeah, because it is. 01:33:51.120 --> 01:33:54.300 And don't forget, Democratic socialists, they don't love this country. 01:33:54.300 --> 01:34:01.280 One of their core leaders, Hasan Piker, said America deserved 9-11, this is the 25th anniversary 01:34:01.280 --> 01:34:03.160 of 9-11-01. 01:34:03.160 --> 01:34:07.760 And now, in his podcast, he proudly displays a framed newspaper. 01:34:07.760 --> 01:34:15.800 a look at this from 9 12 01 showing the twin towers on fire. Take a look. Also, you might 01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:23.400 have noticed something some changes behind me. Um, I finally framed the cutie Cinderella 01:34:23.400 --> 01:34:31.040 newspaper from 9 11 the morning of 9 12 the newspaper right there. Um, the newspaper that 01:34:31.040 --> 01:34:39.960 recovered 9-11. It's now officially sitting behind me and I moved the North Korean poster. 01:34:39.960 --> 01:34:45.560 Recently, the college Democrats invited Piker to speak at their annual convention. He showed 01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:51.380 up dressed like a Chinese dictator and delivered a hate-filled rant against all of his political 01:34:51.380 --> 01:34:57.080 enemies, including Israel, Donald Trump and other Democrats. The speech was kind of insane, 01:34:57.080 --> 01:35:02.200 and saying that the University of Kansas Democrats, they actually got up and walked out later condemning. 01:35:02.200 --> 01:35:03.080 This didn't happen. 01:35:06.840 --> 01:35:11.080 But I like that they're, again, they're making shit up. 01:35:15.400 --> 01:35:22.200 They are merging different groups that are not a part of this organization. They're saying like, 01:35:22.200 --> 01:35:27.160 like, oh, Kansas Democrats actually got mad. Oh, young Democrats got mad. These are not 01:35:27.160 --> 01:35:33.920 the same, these are not the same organizations. But of course, Fox News lies about everything. 01:35:33.920 --> 01:35:39.400 They lie when ICE guns down another American citizen or someone with a legal permanent 01:35:39.400 --> 01:35:44.040 residency in the country. Why would you think that they're being honest in this moment? 01:35:44.040 --> 01:35:51.240 Right? They lie about everything. So the question I have, the question I have for like the dummies 01:35:51.240 --> 01:35:57.880 still refuse to comprehend what's going on. They lie about everything. Why would they be truthful 01:35:57.880 --> 01:36:03.960 about this? They hate you, even if you are a liberal, even if you're a liberal Democrat, 01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:09.000 and you're like, I just want moderate changes to take place at a reasonable pace. 01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:17.240 They make no distinction between you, okay? They make no distinction between you and I. 01:36:17.240 --> 01:36:30.240 There will come a moment where you will have to pick a side. Okay? That incrementalism is not going to save you. It's not. It's not going to save you at all. 01:36:30.240 --> 01:36:37.240 of course, Piker. Well, wasn't just dressed like Chairman Mao for fun. He actually reveres 01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:52.000 one of, well, history's most evil and murderous dictators ever to exist on this planet. Take 01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:53.680 a look. 01:36:53.680 --> 01:36:57.280 They clipped me talking about Mao Zedong up by a cop who thought it was like making fun 01:36:57.280 --> 01:37:05.520 of Mao Zedong, which I never would and never will. Mao Zedong is one of the great leaders 01:37:05.520 --> 01:37:14.320 of this world. A man who changed the entire universe, the entire planet. He did. He changed 01:37:14.320 --> 01:37:19.280 the trajectory of history. He is the founding father of the People's Republic of China. 01:37:19.280 --> 01:37:25.360 Mao Zedong gets the same level of credit that the founding fathers do for America. 01:37:25.360 --> 01:37:37.760 So now tens of millions of Chinese citizens is true facts here post this clip to Sean. 01:37:37.760 --> 01:37:41.040 Why won't Sean Hannity have me on the to discuss this stuff? 01:37:41.040 --> 01:37:46.640 He said he was supposed to and instead he chose not to have me on and talk about me 01:37:46.640 --> 01:37:49.400 instead is very interesting. 01:37:49.400 --> 01:37:52.640 What are you afraid of Sean? 01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:58.320 We can discourse back and forth on this issue, whatever issue you want to talk about. 01:38:07.320 --> 01:38:12.080 Dude, this is actually concerning. It's not fucking normal that Fox is reporting on everything you say or do and portraying you some scary villain. 01:38:12.080 --> 01:38:16.640 I swear to God, they want someone to harm you. They know what they're doing. Yes, they do. 01:38:16.640 --> 01:38:22.160 Um, Chinese citizens don't have a problem with Mao. Why are they portraying it like he's feared and hated by the Chinese people? 01:38:22.160 --> 01:38:28.920 Yeah. Well, for them, it's 1.4 billion Chinese people actually are brainwashed or too terrified to say anything about Mao Zedong. 01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:37.440 That's what it is. Like, you can't have a, you can't have a sober assessment of his contributions and also his excesses at the same time, 01:38:37.440 --> 01:38:43.600 which is the Chinese government's position as well. Ironically enough, and it's, uh, you know, they're, they're less critical than I am, 01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:51.260 them, you know, as far as the cultural revolution goes. But even they recognize the, the harms 01:38:51.260 --> 01:38:57.920 that took place. And so do I. But again, for these people, they don't want to have like 01:38:57.920 --> 01:39:04.240 a, a real assessment. They don't want to have a real tabulation. They don't want to look 01:39:04.240 --> 01:39:09.440 at the, the complex historical figure that was Mao Zedong. They simply want to say he 01:39:09.440 --> 01:39:18.720 is Chinese Hitler. And what's really interesting about that is, whether you hate China, whether 01:39:18.720 --> 01:39:24.320 you actively want to foment hatred towards China or not, it doesn't matter. If you see China as a 01:39:24.320 --> 01:39:31.120 foreign adversary, you must still understand China. If you see China as another great power in the 01:39:31.120 --> 01:39:36.640 world that you want to cooperate with rather than constantly saber-rattle against, you must still 01:39:36.640 --> 01:39:42.560 understand China. And that's what's really interesting about this. So, I listened to the 01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:49.040 Ezra Klein conversation that took place on my flight back, okay, where Ezra Klein had the 01:39:49.040 --> 01:39:57.520 former Prime Minister of Australia, Kevin Rudd on. Kevin Rudd is probably one of the best China 01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:04.000 understanders in the Western world. This man has obsessively studied contemporary Chinese history 01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:09.800 all the way from college and then he has had a, you know, direct relationship with Xi Jinping as well 01:40:10.240 --> 01:40:17.200 at his time in the Australian Foreign Service and then, you know, later on as an Australian diplomat 01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:22.000 and also the 26th Prime Minister of Australia from 2007 to 2010. 01:40:22.640 --> 01:40:30.080 Like throughout, like he has personally experienced Xi Jinping's rise to power. He is personally a decent understanding 01:40:30.080 --> 01:40:37.920 of China. He was China maxing before anyone else was. Now, he's not the biggest fan of China by 01:40:37.920 --> 01:40:48.400 any means. However, unlike many of his counterparts, he recognizes that in order to develop even a 01:40:48.400 --> 01:40:53.040 critical understanding of China, in order to develop the best defenses against China, if that's 01:40:53.040 --> 01:40:58.720 your goal, you still have to understand China. You still have to understand Marxist Leninism. You 01:40:58.720 --> 01:41:03.160 You have to understand Xi Jinping's rise to power. 01:41:03.160 --> 01:41:08.580 No one in the Western world, many of the Western analysts actually fail to do this adequately, 01:41:08.580 --> 01:41:20.420 which is why they constantly find themselves lost, okay? 01:41:20.420 --> 01:41:22.340 That's it. 01:41:22.340 --> 01:41:25.020 It's unbelievably stupid. 01:41:25.020 --> 01:41:29.100 In a way, it's no different than what the right-wing was saying about Mark Milley. 01:41:29.100 --> 01:41:32.620 When Mark Milley came out and was like, of course I've read Mao Zedong, of course I've 01:41:32.620 --> 01:41:38.980 read formative Marxist literature, and we continue to teach that to our officers. 01:41:38.980 --> 01:41:43.220 We continue to teach that to people who end up becoming generals. 01:41:43.220 --> 01:41:46.300 The reason for why we do that is because we must understand the enemy. 01:41:46.300 --> 01:41:49.060 We must study the enemy. 01:41:49.060 --> 01:41:55.520 If we choose to understand it, if we choose to, you know, fight back effectively, okay? 01:41:55.520 --> 01:41:59.300 So my argument here in this circumstance, regardless of my difference in opinion with 01:41:59.300 --> 01:42:07.940 the likes of Kevin Rudd, right, who is arguably no fan of China, my argument for those who 01:42:07.940 --> 01:42:12.400 just simply go, oh dude, you're a fucking silly radical, shut the fuck up. 01:42:12.400 --> 01:42:18.220 My argument always is, no, you have to read, you have to understand, even if you hate China, 01:42:18.220 --> 01:42:22.220 still have to understand China. Otherwise, you're going to be like, how do they become 01:42:22.220 --> 01:42:26.820 this behemoth? How do they become the superpower over the course of three decades? How did 01:42:26.820 --> 01:42:34.620 that happen? You'll get lost. And I don't understand why I have studied fascists as 01:42:34.620 --> 01:42:41.060 well. Doesn't mean I like fascism, but I have to understand it. I have to understand where 01:42:41.060 --> 01:42:45.420 these guys are coming from. That's the reason why I watch Fox News as well. I'm a student 01:42:45.420 --> 01:42:51.900 of the right as well. And the reason for why I do this is because I need to understand how 01:42:51.900 --> 01:42:59.180 they galvanize the base, how they organize, what issues they organize around, okay? 01:43:02.300 --> 01:43:11.340 This kind of thought-terminating fake patriotism is simply to delude your base, 01:43:11.340 --> 01:43:17.380 to make sure that your side never even develops any understanding of how China became this 01:43:17.380 --> 01:43:27.580 modern behemoth, this Titan. Okay? It's very stupid. It's so stupid that I'm not even saying 01:43:27.580 --> 01:43:33.260 you need to be a Marxist letter. I'm simply saying just read, please, and develop a better 01:43:33.260 --> 01:43:42.700 Okay. And ironically enough, this interview was pretty solid. I mean, all the way up until 01:43:42.700 --> 01:43:48.300 the end, like there's a lot of, there's, there's fear mongering at the end of the, the conversation, 01:43:48.300 --> 01:43:55.780 of course, but, but I will stand by this. Kevin Rudd, unlike any other Western analyst, 01:43:55.780 --> 01:44:04.700 which is again, low bar to clear. Kevin Rudd understands China, okay? He disagrees and 01:44:04.700 --> 01:44:12.660 he has plenty of critique, some valid, some I think exaggerated. But he absolutely understands 01:44:12.660 --> 01:44:22.100 and takes seriously the way that the People's Republic of China formed. He talked extensively 01:44:22.100 --> 01:44:26.980 about dialectics, dialectical materialism, historical materialism. He talked about Xi's 01:44:26.980 --> 01:44:32.180 rise to power. He talks about Marxist Leninism. He talks about Leninism in general. He talks 01:44:32.180 --> 01:44:39.220 about the direction that Xi Jinping took the PRC, took the Communist Party of China, which is, 01:44:39.220 --> 01:44:46.020 again, there have been transformations with each formation. 01:44:46.020 --> 01:44:57.300 And Xi Jinping has done a lot in the direction of, he completely misrepresented Marx's Leninism 01:44:57.300 --> 01:45:05.460 in that podcast. I think in comparison to the average person's understanding, it was 01:45:05.460 --> 01:45:15.220 crude, it was reductive, but it was absolutely far better than the average Westerner. I am, 01:45:15.220 --> 01:45:22.580 Again, grating Kevin Rudd on a fucking curve, okay? In comparison to the way that most Western 01:45:22.580 --> 01:45:31.620 analysts frame China, the very notion that he recognizes that these guys are committed 01:45:33.380 --> 01:45:41.780 Marxist Leninists is automatically going to, it's automatically going to place you far above the rest, 01:45:41.780 --> 01:45:53.620 Okay. I think ultimately his critique, ultimately his critique of China stems from his liberal 01:45:53.620 --> 01:45:59.060 worldview. He was much better on China when he was in government. I think he's pandering 01:45:59.060 --> 01:46:03.860 for cloud nowadays. I mean, ultimately, my point wasn't about, you know, he's great on 01:46:03.860 --> 01:46:11.500 China or I agree with him. My point was that he at the very least is a person whom I disagree 01:46:11.500 --> 01:46:21.580 with who still has done the fucking reading. If you are a western analyst, if you are a 01:46:21.580 --> 01:46:30.980 western politician, and you openly say, look, we must not underestimate China and that they 01:46:30.980 --> 01:46:39.340 are committed to their understanding, their own interpretation of where China is on their 01:46:39.340 --> 01:46:45.020 socialist development. But they are still nevertheless committed to developing socialism. 01:46:45.740 --> 01:46:51.740 Okay. You are far above almost every other Western analyst because Western analysts look at this, 01:46:51.740 --> 01:46:57.180 and they go, China is capitalist. China doesn't care about anything other than just like, you know, 01:46:57.820 --> 01:47:03.340 being other than the CCP controlling the government. And, you know, they harass everyone 01:47:03.340 --> 01:47:07.980 endlessly. They fucking destroy and kill political dissidents. There's mass surveillance, all this 01:47:07.980 --> 01:47:10.620 stuff, which Kevin Rudd also points to, right? 01:47:19.420 --> 01:47:26.780 Ultimately, ultimately, he still understands China far better than the average Westerner does. 01:47:28.540 --> 01:47:32.860 I'll give you a more contemporary example of this, even though the Chinese one is obviously still 01:47:32.860 --> 01:47:38.300 very relevant because it's our major adversary, right? Our major adversary is the great power, 01:47:38.300 --> 01:47:42.700 this behemoth that's like destroying the world from the assessment of Western 01:47:44.460 --> 01:47:54.060 analysts. It's Iran. The reason why so many of my counterparts got the Iran situation wrong 01:47:54.620 --> 01:48:01.420 is because they were blinded by ideology and they were blinded by Western primacy, okay? 01:48:01.420 --> 01:48:09.820 Okay? They had a bias. They could not fathom that a middling middle power could potentially 01:48:09.820 --> 01:48:15.900 effectively control the straight-of-formers, use the geographical limitations of the straight-of-formers, 01:48:15.900 --> 01:48:25.100 which is only 21 miles wide, to their advantage with a relatively low-cost strategy of just 01:48:25.100 --> 01:48:33.100 drone striking commercial vessels. The reason why we got that wrong, or the reason why we got that 01:48:33.100 --> 01:48:42.460 right here is because I understand and take seriously the things that foreign adversaries say. 01:48:43.740 --> 01:48:50.220 Okay? A year ago, Iran would not have been considered 01:48:50.220 --> 01:48:59.580 a possible global superpower. It's not a global superpower still, okay? But it's very clear that 01:48:59.580 --> 01:49:07.900 it can project power beyond its immediate borders, or rather, they are capable of projecting power 01:49:07.900 --> 01:49:14.340 right next to their borders, which happens to be one of the most important geographical locations 01:49:14.340 --> 01:49:18.340 for the global energy trade. 01:49:20.340 --> 01:49:27.340 My point is, if you underestimate Iran, you find yourself confused 200 days in 01:49:27.340 --> 01:49:30.340 where you think to yourself, how the fuck did this happen? 01:49:30.340 --> 01:49:34.340 Why can't America not militarily destroy Iran? 01:49:34.340 --> 01:49:40.340 Why can't America, why can't the United States of America 01:49:44.340 --> 01:49:54.440 force Iran to heal. It's because we underestimated, we underestimated the 01:49:54.440 --> 01:50:01.660 Iranian capabilities, okay? You could fill a book with pro-war pundits who were 01:50:01.660 --> 01:50:05.220 embarrassingly wrong about almost every aspect of the Iran war and led Trump and 01:50:05.220 --> 01:50:08.220 the US into disaster. Here's a thread of just some of the worst offenders and the 01:50:08.220 --> 01:50:12.460 utter tripe, they want you to forget that they were peddling. Max Abrams. 01:50:14.220 --> 01:50:17.900 Abrams was really feeling himself after Trump's attacks on Iran last year, which largely avoided 01:50:17.900 --> 01:50:22.220 spiraling in a disaster only because of how limited US involvement was. And because of Iran's 01:50:22.220 --> 01:50:26.060 restraint at the time, he decided to take this as confirmation that the risks were non-existent, 01:50:26.060 --> 01:50:30.540 and that anybody who had ever warned about them was wrong, kicking off a month-long victory lap, 01:50:30.540 --> 01:50:31.900 aimed at war skeptics. 01:50:31.900 --> 01:50:40.160 In a debate over the war at last year's National Conservatives and Conference, Abrams assailed 01:50:40.160 --> 01:50:43.580 most conservative, mostly conservative critics of the war as empirical embarrassments and 01:50:43.580 --> 01:50:47.180 mocked their delusions, which included the idea that a war with Iran would become a regime 01:50:47.180 --> 01:50:51.420 change war, that it would necessitate US ground troops, that it would be a protracted conflict, 01:50:51.420 --> 01:50:54.800 that it would kill Americans, it hurt the US economy, and that it would deal a mortal 01:50:54.800 --> 01:50:57.940 blow to Trump's presidency. 01:50:57.940 --> 01:51:00.240 That was wrong. 01:51:00.240 --> 01:51:01.900 That was laughably wrong. 01:51:01.900 --> 01:51:05.800 By April, Abrams was arguing that the United States has enhanced his military capability 01:51:05.800 --> 01:51:11.200 through this war, continuing the nonsense that there was some benefit to the United 01:51:11.200 --> 01:51:12.740 States of America here. 01:51:12.740 --> 01:51:17.580 When everyone that was reasonable, everyone that was conducting sober analysis, including 01:51:17.580 --> 01:51:23.380 people who are previously American exceptionalists that may have demanded this kind of dangerous 01:51:23.380 --> 01:51:28.280 military escalation, had recognized like the Atlantic Council, Danny Satrinowitz, at the 01:51:28.280 --> 01:51:35.320 Atlantic Council, a NATO Atlanticist in every way, shape, and form. Someone who is not aligned with 01:51:35.320 --> 01:51:43.720 me at all in the way that they see the world, okay? They were early in recognizing how big of a 01:51:43.720 --> 01:51:49.960 disaster this was becoming for American dominance around the world, for American force projection 01:51:49.960 --> 01:51:57.640 capabilities, okay? Some recognized it early on. There are those who did not. Part of that was because 01:51:57.640 --> 01:52:01.560 they were ideologically invested in advancing the greater Israel project. 01:52:01.560 --> 01:52:08.280 Some of them were too ideologically invested in the idea that American military dominance 01:52:08.280 --> 01:52:13.400 is absolute, okay? And that a country like Iran would never be able to push back. A country like 01:52:13.400 --> 01:52:18.840 Iran would never be able to fight back. This is what happens when you underestimate your enemy. 01:52:18.840 --> 01:52:23.560 This is what happens when you underestimate your foreign adversaries. Many of these guys 01:52:23.560 --> 01:52:27.800 on the republican side, and maybe even some on the liberal side who are collaborating with them, 01:52:27.800 --> 01:52:32.440 will turn around and say, Hassan, you're fucking, you're pro-Iran, you're pro-China, 01:52:32.440 --> 01:52:35.800 you love China more than you love America, you love Iran more than America. 01:52:35.800 --> 01:52:41.880 I live in the United States of America. I am an American, okay? My point always has been, 01:52:41.880 --> 01:52:47.160 there are things that we can learn from these supposed foreign adversaries, 01:52:47.160 --> 01:52:52.040 and that we should always give peace of chance. That's my attitude on this, okay? 01:52:53.560 --> 01:52:59.760 So, you could turn around and say, oh, you're posturing, you're actually fake, you're phony, 01:52:59.760 --> 01:53:03.920 you're IRGC defender, all day every day. 01:53:03.920 --> 01:53:06.080 None of that matters, okay? 01:53:06.080 --> 01:53:09.960 What matters is, we were right and these guys were wrong. 01:53:09.960 --> 01:53:16.240 So, one must understand why we were right and they were wrong. 01:53:16.240 --> 01:53:17.760 That's it. 01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:24.320 Do you want to keep being wrong over and over again until your forced projection capabilities 01:53:24.320 --> 01:53:26.120 diminish even further? 01:53:26.120 --> 01:53:40.760 Or do you want to get back to the drawing board and, you know, maybe restrain yourselves? 01:53:40.760 --> 01:53:44.340 Former 60-minute correspondent Cecilia Vega said CBS News Executive pressure her to make 01:53:44.340 --> 01:53:47.280 several stories appear more politically slanted, calling. 01:53:47.280 --> 01:53:50.960 requested it is driven by misinformation and politics. Vega was asked to describe Iran 01:53:50.960 --> 01:53:54.680 as being outgunned by the United States and Israel, which she called an administration 01:53:54.680 --> 01:53:56.400 talking point. 01:53:56.400 --> 01:54:02.440 This doesn't actually serve anybody. When you delude the base, when you lie to the base, 01:54:02.440 --> 01:54:08.760 you only basically win some time for yourself, for your movement. It's unbelievably selfish, 01:54:08.760 --> 01:54:14.400 okay? But at the end of the day, the truth prevails, right? That's how we arrived. That's 01:54:14.400 --> 01:54:19.120 That's how we arrived at the situation this past weekend, where Donald Trump was signaling 01:54:19.120 --> 01:54:24.500 further military action in the Strait of Hormuz, only to then restrain himself by force. 01:54:24.500 --> 01:54:30.840 And when asked why, Donald Trump did not do the big military conquest over Pickax Mountain. 01:54:30.840 --> 01:54:35.920 That's even deeper than the previous facilities that we had bombed into oblivion. 01:54:35.920 --> 01:54:43.000 He turned around and said, we're running out of interceptor missiles. 01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:50.560 The U.S. government is now allowing some of the Iranian missiles to go through, especially 01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:57.160 if they calculate that the Iranian ballistic munitions are not supposed to hit direct targets. 01:54:57.160 --> 01:55:01.680 They're allowing those missiles to go through and strike. 01:55:01.680 --> 01:55:05.960 Some of those missiles have killed American active duty service members at this point, 01:55:05.960 --> 01:55:07.160 17 of them to be exact. 01:55:07.160 --> 01:55:08.280 I believe it's 17. 01:55:08.280 --> 01:55:10.800 The real number is probably far higher. 01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:24.880 The one that we know, the number that we know right now is I think either 16 or 17 or 18. 01:55:24.880 --> 01:55:29.020 The calculations are changing. 01:55:29.020 --> 01:55:33.560 Why is the American government now deciding to chart a different path forward? 01:55:33.560 --> 01:55:37.080 Well, it's because the truth always prevails. 01:55:37.080 --> 01:55:43.720 nothing you can do if at the end of the day, if at the end of the day, Iranian missiles 01:55:43.720 --> 01:55:49.080 are striking US military bases and killing American active duty service members. 01:55:49.080 --> 01:55:54.040 There's not too much you can do about, you know, changing the dynamic of that by yapping. 01:55:54.040 --> 01:55:57.920 You can't out-propagandize US soldiers dying. 01:55:57.920 --> 01:56:00.520 Okay? 01:56:00.520 --> 01:56:02.760 And why did I talk about all this? 01:56:02.760 --> 01:56:05.920 Because what's important is always to understand. 01:56:05.920 --> 01:56:09.840 It's always important, what's always important, even if you want to have a tactical advantage 01:56:09.840 --> 01:56:14.080 over your foreign adversaries, even if you disagree with me vehemently on this issue, 01:56:14.080 --> 01:56:20.260 okay, you still need to read, you still need to study, you still need to internalize and 01:56:20.260 --> 01:56:24.200 identify how other people think. 01:56:24.200 --> 01:56:30.360 That's why I said the Kevin Rudd conversation was very good in my opinion, because he does. 01:56:30.360 --> 01:56:33.600 Kevin Rudd and I disagree on China or China's place around the world. 01:56:33.600 --> 01:56:37.080 I don't think it's as scary as, you know, 01:56:37.080 --> 01:56:38.060 Rudd presents it, 01:56:38.060 --> 01:56:40.080 obviously he's the former prime minister of Australia. 01:56:40.080 --> 01:56:41.960 Of course he has this kind of attitude, 01:56:41.960 --> 01:56:44.560 but at the end of the day, 01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:47.560 he has at the very least studied contemporary 01:56:47.560 --> 01:56:50.520 and ancient Chinese history 01:56:50.520 --> 01:56:52.960 and has a direct and personal involvement 01:56:52.960 --> 01:56:57.320 with the development of the People's Republic of China. 01:56:57.320 --> 01:57:01.120 And he understands why China became this behemoth 01:57:01.120 --> 01:57:02.080 that it is. 01:57:02.080 --> 01:57:07.160 The first is I've read enough of Xi Jinping to conclude that he is a convinced Marxist 01:57:07.160 --> 01:57:08.160 dialectician. 01:57:08.160 --> 01:57:09.660 What do I mean by that? 01:57:09.660 --> 01:57:13.480 Because it's not a term that be bendy about it's Starbucks much here in New York. 01:57:13.480 --> 01:57:17.520 But it's important we understand how the other person thinks, but more importantly, their 01:57:17.520 --> 01:57:20.760 methodology, their epistemology, the way in which they reach conclusions about that. 01:57:20.760 --> 01:57:22.080 This is very important, I agree. 01:57:22.080 --> 01:57:24.560 Real and that which is not, that which is true and that which is false. 01:57:24.560 --> 01:57:29.280 But when a dialectician, which sounds like a horrible word, comes from Hegel, the German 01:57:29.280 --> 01:57:31.800 philosopher, adopted by Marx and Engels. 01:57:31.800 --> 01:57:34.080 It is essentially a view of history 01:57:34.080 --> 01:57:37.640 that there are two fundamental sets of forces 01:57:37.640 --> 01:57:39.640 changing historical developments over time. 01:57:39.640 --> 01:57:41.000 One's called dialectical materialism, 01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:42.960 and the second is called historical materialism. 01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:44.240 So what the hell is that? 01:57:44.240 --> 01:57:46.960 Dialectical materialism is a worldview by Marxists, 01:57:46.960 --> 01:57:49.480 which says that change in society, 01:57:49.480 --> 01:57:50.640 the economy, and politics occurs 01:57:50.640 --> 01:57:52.760 between this constant push 01:57:52.760 --> 01:57:55.200 between progressive forces and reactionary forces, 01:57:55.200 --> 01:57:56.680 which they ultimately describe as the forces 01:57:56.680 --> 01:57:58.320 of the working class versus the capitalist class, 01:57:58.320 --> 01:58:00.240 and ultimately, one pushes hard against the other, 01:58:00.240 --> 01:58:04.760 overturns the other and creates a new synthesis, which ultimately is a communist state. 01:58:04.760 --> 01:58:07.000 So that's dialectical materialism. 01:58:07.000 --> 01:58:11.960 And the Chinese Communist Party says that the inevitable historical engine that pushes 01:58:11.960 --> 01:58:14.160 through the capitalist state of communism. 01:58:14.160 --> 01:58:15.160 That's true. 01:58:15.160 --> 01:58:16.960 And through the agency of what they call class struggle or just struggle. 01:58:16.960 --> 01:58:20.000 By the way, one of the things that Xi Jinping has rehabilitated is a term in China's political 01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:22.160 discourse today is struggle, struggle, struggle, struggle. 01:58:22.160 --> 01:58:25.480 A term which largely disappeared during the Dengjiang and Hu period. 01:58:25.480 --> 01:58:26.480 So bear with me for a moment. 01:58:26.480 --> 01:58:27.480 This is Terjeet's staff. 01:58:27.480 --> 01:58:28.480 I apologize to your listeners. 01:58:28.480 --> 01:58:30.480 This is a safe space for turgidity. 01:58:30.480 --> 01:58:37.480 This is seriously turgid, and I'd better read this stuff, and I wouldn't recommend it to any of you unless you're suffering from deep insomnia. 01:58:37.480 --> 01:58:40.480 I can give you the relevant chapters of my book, which will send you off to sleep. 01:58:40.480 --> 01:58:45.480 But historical materialism is the parallel discipline, which asks Marxist historians this question, 01:58:45.480 --> 01:58:52.480 where are we in this current historical moment in the evolution of this inexorable struggle between progressive and reactionary forces, 01:58:52.480 --> 01:58:56.880 reactionary forces between working class and capitalist class, between working class and 01:58:56.880 --> 01:59:00.600 nation states and capitalist nation states in producing this final resolution through 01:59:00.600 --> 01:59:04.480 struggle of an evolution towards a socialist and communist society. And where they say 01:59:04.480 --> 01:59:08.560 through historical materialism, China has reached, is that they are now moving out of 01:59:08.560 --> 01:59:11.480 what they call the primitive stage or the primary stage of socialism into something 01:59:11.480 --> 01:59:14.640 higher than that. And that the role of the Chinese Communist Party under Xi's leadership 01:59:14.640 --> 01:59:19.640 is to further accelerate that. 01:59:19.640 --> 01:59:31.960 This is, again, this is reductive, but ultimately, it is far above and beyond the average Western 01:59:31.960 --> 01:59:32.960 analyst. 01:59:32.960 --> 01:59:39.080 One must ask a question why this kind of platform is being given to this kind of thought in 01:59:39.080 --> 01:59:45.400 this very moment by even the likes of Ezra Klein. 01:59:45.400 --> 01:59:50.640 The reason why this is happening, the reason why this is happening is because it's undeniable. 01:59:50.640 --> 01:59:55.560 It's undeniable that China has a greater presence on the global stage. 01:59:55.560 --> 02:00:00.920 It's undeniable that their growth has given them tremendous economic leverage over the 02:00:00.920 --> 02:00:05.360 Western world, over the entire world, certainly over the United States of America. 02:00:05.360 --> 02:00:11.600 At some point, they even bring up the fact that China defeated Donald Trump and his tariffs 02:00:11.600 --> 02:00:13.460 agenda. 02:00:13.460 --> 02:00:19.140 Out of every Western analyst you listen to, I was probably one of the very few people 02:00:19.140 --> 02:00:23.860 that told you exactly what was going to happen with Liberation Day tariffs, at least with 02:00:23.860 --> 02:00:27.620 our relationship with China. 02:00:27.620 --> 02:00:32.180 There's a reason why I, a person that they call a radical, a person that they call silly 02:00:32.180 --> 02:00:41.640 and stupid got that right. It's not because I have unbelievable foresight, it's because 02:00:41.640 --> 02:00:49.740 I'm intellectually curious and also honest, okay? That's it. If you were in here when 02:00:49.740 --> 02:00:55.020 Liberation Day was happening, what did I tell you? I told you that Liberation Day and all 02:00:55.020 --> 02:01:00.780 these mass tariffs that Donald Trump is trying to position as he forcibly tries to decouple 02:01:00.780 --> 02:01:08.300 the rest of the world from the grips of Chinese manufacturing, this design that we place together, 02:01:08.300 --> 02:01:12.980 this design that we created for the international markets, which we no longer want, so we're 02:01:12.980 --> 02:01:20.380 just basically trying to wipe the board clean because of our now over-reliance on Chinese 02:01:20.380 --> 02:01:25.220 manufacturing, was not going to work. 02:01:25.220 --> 02:01:27.180 It was not going to work in the short term. 02:01:27.180 --> 02:01:30.060 It was not going to work in the long term. 02:01:30.060 --> 02:01:35.380 And the reason for that is because China has a monopoly on rare earth and the procurement 02:01:35.380 --> 02:01:40.740 of refinement of rare earth minerals, critical minerals that are necessary for national defense 02:01:40.740 --> 02:01:44.740 and virtually everything else. 02:01:44.740 --> 02:01:51.100 If you knew that, as I did, you would recognize that that is a massive point of leverage that 02:01:51.100 --> 02:01:57.060 China had over the United States of America, okay? 02:01:57.060 --> 02:01:59.380 So a lot of these people that still turn around and say, 02:01:59.380 --> 02:02:01.540 oh, Hasan, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 02:02:01.540 --> 02:02:03.260 Why were you wrong then? 02:02:03.260 --> 02:02:05.420 Why was I a stupid guy? 02:02:05.420 --> 02:02:07.340 Why was I right and you were wrong? 02:02:10.860 --> 02:02:11.980 How did that happen? 02:02:12.900 --> 02:02:16.900 Same thing goes for Chinese ghost cities. 02:02:16.900 --> 02:02:21.900 If you are so ideologically blinded by the notion 02:02:23.620 --> 02:02:26.980 that housing is simply a speculative asset 02:02:26.980 --> 02:02:35.060 that no one could possibly build housing to shelter folks. No one could possibly build and build and 02:02:35.060 --> 02:02:40.980 build housing for any purpose other than economic activity to show the Western world, 02:02:40.980 --> 02:02:46.980 than to improve their GDP. If you cannot comprehend that China was simply building housing with a 02:02:46.980 --> 02:02:55.380 long-term shelter attitude in mind, then yes, you would read those articles about the ghost cities 02:02:55.380 --> 02:02:59.860 of China and you would laugh and you would think to yourself, oh, look at these silly 02:02:59.860 --> 02:03:03.340 guys. They're just trying to build housing to make it look like they have tremendous 02:03:03.340 --> 02:03:10.300 economic activity taking place in the countryside and not realize that there was rapid urbanization 02:03:10.300 --> 02:03:18.100 that was taking place. There was rapid development taking place. This is what I mean when I say, 02:03:18.100 --> 02:03:22.340 do not underestimate your opponent. If you, if you consider China to be an opponent, you 02:03:22.340 --> 02:03:25.820 should still try to understand where they're coming from. 02:03:31.220 --> 02:03:33.500 Okay, where have you been? I've been looking for videos on if 02:03:33.500 --> 02:03:35.720 you were banned or something. I chat GPT. I grok that they 02:03:35.720 --> 02:03:39.100 said you were planning stuff and burnout. Wait, what? You chat 02:03:39.100 --> 02:03:41.020 GPT'd why I was gone. 02:03:48.300 --> 02:03:48.980 That's crazy. 02:03:52.340 --> 02:04:04.900 Anyway, let's get back to the the Sean Hannity conversation now actually died under now. 02:04:04.900 --> 02:04:06.580 Many due to starvation. 02:04:06.580 --> 02:04:12.260 Many more died in political prison camps or at the barrel of a gun lined up against the 02:04:12.260 --> 02:04:13.260 wall. 02:04:13.260 --> 02:04:17.620 Now, this is what what Democratic radical socialist want to bring to America. 02:04:17.620 --> 02:04:23.780 Now, John Stuart, he's all smiles, kicks and giggles, laughing it up with New York City's 02:04:23.780 --> 02:04:24.780 Communist Mayor. 02:04:24.780 --> 02:04:25.780 Take a look. 02:04:25.780 --> 02:04:31.380 You know, being a Muslim Democratic Socialist, I thought it would be pretty straightforward. 02:04:31.380 --> 02:04:33.500 You just saw it. 02:04:33.500 --> 02:04:37.300 What if I label myself something that scares people the most? 02:04:37.300 --> 02:04:39.620 I'm a Muslim Democratic Socialist. 02:04:39.620 --> 02:04:41.820 If she's scared, she's scared of us. 02:04:41.820 --> 02:04:45.300 And I'd like to run your public transportation system. 02:04:45.300 --> 02:04:46.980 Oh, okay. 02:04:46.980 --> 02:04:50.340 happen to the free buses anyway. And now according to John Stewart there's no 02:04:50.340 --> 02:04:55.340 need to panic over the rise of socialism. It's just a populist economic 02:04:55.340 --> 02:04:58.820 movement. Apparently John Stewart is thinking that the left doesn't actually 02:04:58.820 --> 02:05:05.940 support the radical policies stated in the DSA's own charter. Take a look. We're 02:05:05.940 --> 02:05:10.700 in that same place now where all these new ideas suddenly the Democrats all 02:05:10.700 --> 02:05:15.460 these Democratic socialists they're crazy. You're like well but that generally 02:05:15.460 --> 02:05:21.380 their crazy ideas aren't where the energy is. The energy isn't around like, we shouldn't 02:05:21.380 --> 02:05:28.340 have prisons or borders. The energy is around a belief that their economic populism. And 02:05:28.340 --> 02:05:32.620 when you call it socialism, I think it's a misnomer, like in the same way that if you 02:05:32.620 --> 02:05:37.340 call social security socialism, that's kind of a misnomer. It's about strengthening a 02:05:37.340 --> 02:05:44.580 safety net for a country that has suffered too long overvaluing capital and money and 02:05:44.580 --> 02:05:51.060 undervaluing labor and work. Now the energy is about open borders, deep fund dismantle, 02:05:51.060 --> 02:05:58.500 no bail laws, reimagine the police. He's such a live. I mean, yes, they are Americans are 02:05:58.500 --> 02:06:05.700 self identifying liberals. Okay. For the most part, this is something that we have to understand. 02:06:05.700 --> 02:06:11.860 Okay. What do I always say in order to build a mass movement, which is what socialism is, 02:06:11.860 --> 02:06:16.820 you have to speak to the masses, you have to speak to the struggles of the masses, you 02:06:16.820 --> 02:06:20.020 have to speak the language of the masses, and you have to go to where the masses are. 02:06:20.020 --> 02:06:21.020 Okay? 02:06:21.020 --> 02:06:23.980 That's it. 02:06:23.980 --> 02:06:31.220 And after almost a century of liberal monoculture, liberal capitalist dominance, of course, a 02:06:31.220 --> 02:06:38.020 lot of people are self-identifying liberals. 02:06:38.020 --> 02:06:44.540 And yes, someone like John Stuart is very much a social democrat, a liberal who still 02:06:44.540 --> 02:06:52.540 finds the moniker, the identifier of socialism to be far too radical or dangerous or whatever. 02:06:52.540 --> 02:06:56.780 So these are baby steps that they need to take, reformist baby steps that I think a 02:06:56.780 --> 02:07:04.540 lot of orthodox Marxists consider to be dangerous because this is the, from their perspective, 02:07:04.540 --> 02:07:12.940 is like the Bernstein revisionism that initially destroyed the international left, the Socialists 02:07:12.940 --> 02:07:24.060 or the Communist movements all around Western Europe. What they fail to recognize is that 02:07:24.060 --> 02:07:30.780 the situation has changed. Industry has advanced the same productive forces. The productive 02:07:30.780 --> 02:07:36.340 force in the West do not look the same any longer. Okay, so our tactics have to change 02:07:36.340 --> 02:07:40.060 as well, especially in a country like the United States of America, where we have to 02:07:40.060 --> 02:07:47.300 penetrate collective consciousness, and we have to rip apart the previous setbacks born 02:07:47.300 --> 02:07:53.900 out of a century of red scare propaganda born out of a necessity for capital to dominate 02:07:53.900 --> 02:08:06.020 the masses to make the masses forget that they are a part of the working class. 02:08:06.020 --> 02:08:08.140 This is the first step. 02:08:08.140 --> 02:08:09.860 It's not the last step. 02:08:09.860 --> 02:08:13.780 If it stops here, then that's a problem, okay? 02:08:13.780 --> 02:08:17.140 We do not want simple, modest reforms, okay? 02:08:17.140 --> 02:08:23.820 We want to change the entire system, but you have to understand it's not bad enough for 02:08:23.820 --> 02:08:33.260 people to come to terms with their class position. Contradictions worsen, okay? Contradictions 02:08:33.260 --> 02:08:39.580 are as bad as they have ever been in the last 50 to 60 years. It's nowhere, but it's not 02:08:39.580 --> 02:08:49.720 as bad as it was in the 20s, right? Technological advancements, the sedentary element of social 02:08:49.720 --> 02:08:55.080 media and all of the treats that we can consume that are at our disposal, these are things 02:08:55.080 --> 02:09:00.120 that make people feel as though they are their lives of materially improved. 02:09:00.120 --> 02:09:06.760 And in some respects, they have, right? If you were to look back at the 60s, for example, 02:09:08.360 --> 02:09:14.920 the luxury items that we have, the average worker and the luxury items that they are capable of 02:09:14.920 --> 02:09:21.880 of receiving that they're capable of holding onto are the exact opposite. Okay? Now we look at 02:09:21.880 --> 02:09:28.840 housing as a luxury, but at the same time, we can fly around the world, right? You can get a little 02:09:28.840 --> 02:09:33.800 bit of disposable income if you're lucky enough, if you've saved enough to go and fly anywhere 02:09:33.800 --> 02:09:42.280 around the world. You can have a massive TV. You can have a refrigerator in your house that's much 02:09:42.280 --> 02:09:48.120 nicer than the refrigerators that used to exist. If you look at the actual cost of a television 02:09:48.760 --> 02:09:55.480 in like the 70s and 80s, it was far higher than the average cost of a TV now. 02:09:57.480 --> 02:10:04.840 But at the same time, if you look at the price of housing, whether it be rent or whether it be 02:10:04.840 --> 02:10:10.040 housing that you can purchase, it was endlessly affordable in comparison to now. Take it one 02:10:10.040 --> 02:10:21.080 that further, go all the way back to, I don't know, the time when Kings existed. The average 02:10:21.080 --> 02:10:30.120 worker is now capable of experiencing things that were only readily available to Lords, 02:10:30.120 --> 02:10:43.360 gods, kings, demigods, okay? That is important to identify. It's all topsy-turvy. It's flipped 02:10:43.360 --> 02:10:55.680 on its head. We can no longer afford housing, but we can afford all of these treats that 02:10:55.680 --> 02:11:04.480 genuinely improve our lives for sure. The price of commodities have gone down, specifically, 02:11:05.520 --> 02:11:10.480 things that would have been considered luxury items, luxury goods have become endlessly affordable, 02:11:11.520 --> 02:11:16.240 but things that are necessary for survival, things that are necessary for upward social mobility, 02:11:16.240 --> 02:11:22.400 healthcare, housing, and college education, those are the three things that have become 02:11:22.400 --> 02:11:29.440 endlessly unaffordable in the process. And depending on your perspective, those things 02:11:29.440 --> 02:11:36.960 are either inelastic goods or inelastic services that have inelastic demand 02:11:38.640 --> 02:11:41.440 or are necessary for upward social mobility. 02:11:43.760 --> 02:11:49.280 But as long as the price of groceries remains relatively cheap, which by the way, it's not, 02:11:49.280 --> 02:11:53.840 it's getting less and less affordable as time goes on. 02:11:57.040 --> 02:12:06.960 But as long as those commodities are relatively accessible, relatively affordable, 02:12:08.320 --> 02:12:14.000 the material conditions will not deteriorate to such a degree that people are living through 02:12:14.000 --> 02:12:21.000 the roaring 20s again. 02:12:21.920 --> 02:12:24.480 The energy on all of those topics. 02:12:24.480 --> 02:12:29.760 They do support these extreme goals. They do hate America as we know it. 02:12:29.760 --> 02:12:32.840 They do want to upend our constitution. 02:12:32.840 --> 02:12:36.640 They do want to replace capitalism with socialism, communism. 02:12:36.640 --> 02:12:43.480 And so far, 35 DSA back candidates now have won primaries all across the country ahead 02:12:43.480 --> 02:12:49.000 of a very important midterm come November. And none of these candidates have made a move 02:12:49.000 --> 02:12:55.480 to the center for the primary. In fact, they're very honest about wanting to upend the American 02:12:55.480 --> 02:13:01.600 system. When someone tells you who they are and what they plan to do, my advice is you 02:13:01.600 --> 02:13:06.600 may want to believe them, or maybe you could just listen to President Trump. Take a listen. 02:13:06.600 --> 02:13:11.880 Communism is a loser. The concept, the policy, it's a loser, and it always has been and it 02:13:11.880 --> 02:13:17.680 always will be. And you know, they want to give everyone everything away. You want free 02:13:17.680 --> 02:13:21.960 rent, you want free house, you want what they don't say is that a year from now, there'll 02:13:21.960 --> 02:13:27.720 be absolute squalor, turmoil, and death. And that's the way it's happened all the way. 02:13:27.720 --> 02:13:32.920 It goes back thousands of years by different names. But that's the way it happens all 02:13:32.920 --> 02:13:39.480 the time. It's squalor, it's poverty, it's death, it's destruction. And that's why we 02:13:39.480 --> 02:13:46.960 We declare again today that the United States of America will never be a communist country. 02:13:46.960 --> 02:13:51.640 America is back, it's stronger than ever before, and I'm telling you, it's only going one way, 02:13:51.640 --> 02:13:52.640 it's going up. 02:13:52.640 --> 02:13:56.520 As long as we keep our current thinking, our current system, it's going up. 02:13:56.520 --> 02:13:59.760 If you go the other way, nothing ever succeeds. 02:13:59.760 --> 02:14:05.720 I made the statement once, with communism, everything turns to shit. 02:14:05.720 --> 02:14:06.720 Okay. 02:14:06.720 --> 02:14:14.840 So, we're all those courageous Democrats who care about the Constitution, the rule of law, 02:14:14.840 --> 02:14:16.000 the American way of life. 02:14:16.000 --> 02:14:18.200 They seem to be few and far between. 02:14:18.200 --> 02:14:19.800 Alright, thanks for watching. 02:14:19.800 --> 02:14:22.200 Check out my new podcast hanging out with me, Sean Hatt. 02:14:22.200 --> 02:14:26.880 Yeah, I'm sorry, but we have seen the way that the Republicans operate. 02:14:26.880 --> 02:14:31.760 We have seen the way that the Republicans operate for the last decade, especially post 02:14:31.760 --> 02:14:34.040 Donald Trump. 02:14:34.040 --> 02:14:39.900 have always behaved this way. Donald Trump is just a logical conclusion of reactionary 02:14:39.900 --> 02:14:47.940 propaganda, reactionary politics in general. But the idea that like Democrats need to join 02:14:47.940 --> 02:14:56.720 hands with the Republicans to fight against their common enemy communism is insane. Okay. 02:14:56.720 --> 02:15:04.320 Democrat that leans into this shit has to be a cynical actor. They have to be. Because 02:15:04.320 --> 02:15:11.480 it's very clear that these people have no respect for the Constitution. They have no 02:15:11.480 --> 02:15:16.320 respect for improving people's lives. They have no interest in improving people's lives. 02:15:16.320 --> 02:15:25.580 They are genuinely using the last vestiges of this once powerful country to steal as 02:15:25.580 --> 02:15:31.260 much of the productive resources, the productive output, and your money as they possibly can 02:15:31.260 --> 02:15:37.660 to enrich themselves, the pedophilic Epstein class, and their close associates and their fail 02:15:37.660 --> 02:15:51.260 sons. Okay? It's clear. It's clear that there is a plunder taking place right now. And it's clear 02:15:51.260 --> 02:16:00.300 for most people in the working class, it's even clear for some in the Republican side. 02:16:00.300 --> 02:16:07.980 They still associate themselves with Trump and Trumpism because they've deployed too much. 02:16:07.980 --> 02:16:13.180 They've invested too much into this movement. So it's tough for them to see that this movement 02:16:13.180 --> 02:16:20.300 has failed them. But if there are liberals out there who think that this is going to be a 02:16:20.300 --> 02:16:25.660 beneficial allegiance and not one that ends up harming them in the long run. They're delusional, 02:16:25.660 --> 02:16:34.700 okay? Stop collaborating with fascists. They do not have your best interest at heart. They were 02:16:34.700 --> 02:16:41.820 calling you a pedophilic communist vampire last week. What makes you think things have changed now? 02:16:41.820 --> 02:16:53.500 It's unbelievable to me to President Biden. Michael, lay it out there for us. Like this guy is a 02:16:53.500 --> 02:17:01.180 classic example of this, right? Establishment Democrats that are running to, uh, to, to cooperate 02:17:01.180 --> 02:17:09.660 with fascists in order to, to attack their left flank is blue mega. Well, I have no idea. I mean, 02:17:09.660 --> 02:17:17.260 The article said in the New York Times that it was sort of anything for what anybody wants it to be. 02:17:17.260 --> 02:17:22.260 This is the first I've heard of it actually since I read the New York Times piece. 02:17:22.260 --> 02:17:23.460 It's catchy. 02:17:23.460 --> 02:17:24.760 What's that? 02:17:24.760 --> 02:17:25.660 It's catchy. 02:17:25.660 --> 02:17:26.460 It's catchy. 02:17:26.460 --> 02:17:27.560 Clever, plain words. 02:17:27.560 --> 02:17:28.660 I give them credit. 02:17:28.660 --> 02:17:36.660 But look, if being blue maga means you want to avoid losers as candidates like Graham Plattner 02:17:36.660 --> 02:17:41.180 or anybody who had a Nazi tattoo or nominating Democrats 02:17:41.180 --> 02:17:44.220 with toxic positions like abolish ICE 02:17:44.220 --> 02:17:48.980 or defund the police or banning private health care 02:17:48.980 --> 02:17:50.260 insurance, then sure, fine. 02:17:50.260 --> 02:17:52.860 Call me Blue MAGA, I guess. 02:17:52.860 --> 02:17:54.420 Those are not winners. 02:17:54.420 --> 02:17:56.980 Those are not winning issues or winning positions. 02:17:56.980 --> 02:18:01.020 All right, here's what Hassan Piker told The New York Times. 02:18:01.020 --> 02:18:03.860 He said, Blue MAGA is about cult-like loyalty 02:18:03.860 --> 02:18:04.980 to the Democratic Party. 02:18:04.980 --> 02:18:08.920 but unlike MAGA, it isn't centered around one person. 02:18:08.920 --> 02:18:10.560 It's centered around the image of a party 02:18:10.560 --> 02:18:15.240 that consultants and lobbyists have carefully curated. 02:18:15.240 --> 02:18:16.080 This is obvious. 02:18:18.120 --> 02:18:18.960 Cooked. 02:18:23.080 --> 02:18:25.280 Excellent, excellent take from that guy. 02:18:25.280 --> 02:18:26.760 I don't know who that guy is. 02:18:26.760 --> 02:18:30.360 He is a beard, different guy than me, 02:18:30.360 --> 02:18:32.940 but kind of agree, kind of help. 02:18:32.940 --> 02:18:40.940 I hear that and I think to myself, wow, that guy is going places. That guy is correct. 02:18:40.940 --> 02:18:48.620 Obviously becoming the new ding on the party establishment folks like Nancy Pelosi who have 02:18:48.620 --> 02:18:53.940 spent their careers raising, I don't know, hundreds of millions of dollars for candidates. 02:18:53.940 --> 02:19:01.760 Why are you, why is Fox News defending Nancy Pelosi's honor? Why is Fox News defending 02:19:01.760 --> 02:19:13.400 Nancy Pelosi's honor. When have they done that? Why are they doing that? 02:19:14.800 --> 02:19:22.280 Yeah, look, I understand a frustration with sort of the group think mentality 02:19:22.280 --> 02:19:29.920 sort of at the top and I spoke out in the last cycle when I was you know kind 02:19:29.920 --> 02:19:37.160 of sending some warning signals about President Biden's challenges and his vulnerabilities. 02:19:37.160 --> 02:19:42.480 And just even acknowledging that problems existed within the polling. 02:19:42.480 --> 02:19:44.160 And I lost friends. 02:19:44.160 --> 02:19:48.000 I was blacklisted from other networks. 02:19:48.000 --> 02:19:51.240 I was called a traitor or a bedwetter. 02:19:51.240 --> 02:19:53.280 I was, I was called a lot worse than a. 02:19:53.280 --> 02:19:54.280 Yeah. 02:19:54.280 --> 02:19:59.800 That's why, that's why now I can only go on Fox News to complain. 02:19:59.800 --> 02:20:06.800 But I'm also not going to take advice from somebody who has no idea what he's talking about. 02:20:06.800 --> 02:20:14.800 I mean, this guy makes a living being a provocateur saying provocative offensive things. 02:20:14.800 --> 02:20:23.800 I'm glad he has a political science degree from Rutgers, but he knows nothing about government, politics, public policy, or anything. 02:20:23.800 --> 02:20:27.800 Well, we appreciate you here having you enjoy talking to you on the program. 02:20:27.800 --> 02:20:33.240 program. I want to ask you about this while we have you in New York magazine reports like 02:20:33.240 --> 02:20:39.480 it or not. Is he saying that you were in support of Biden? I mean, I was. I wasn't in support 02:20:39.480 --> 02:20:47.880 of Biden reluctantly. I in 2019, if you go back far enough, you'll see in 2019, well, 02:20:47.880 --> 02:20:54.920 the primaries were just beginning. I said, if we elect Joe Biden, Joe Biden is going to 02:20:54.920 --> 02:21:00.480 to set back any kind of progressive movement in this country. 02:21:00.480 --> 02:21:05.760 He's too old, and everyone can see that he's too old, and he is going to be a one-term 02:21:05.760 --> 02:21:06.760 president. 02:21:06.760 --> 02:21:08.880 It is a major mistake. 02:21:08.880 --> 02:21:13.200 But once, past the point of Super Tuesday, when it was very clear that Joe Biden was 02:21:13.200 --> 02:21:23.520 going to be the candidate, unfortunately, when the establishment Democrats consolidated 02:21:23.520 --> 02:21:27.600 their support behind him, shouts out the Barack Obama for that. 02:21:29.520 --> 02:21:33.200 It was obvious that he was the, he was going to be the winner. Unfortunately, 02:21:33.200 --> 02:21:36.280 I reluctantly lent my support to Joe Biden. I did. 02:21:37.680 --> 02:21:41.440 I told my audience to plug their nose and vote for him. Okay. 02:21:43.080 --> 02:21:46.800 Joe Biden won and change didn't come. 02:21:48.240 --> 02:21:50.000 And people were even more frustrated. 02:21:50.000 --> 02:21:55.040 saw negative real wage growth for a year and a half under the Biden administration. That was hugely 02:21:55.040 --> 02:22:00.960 frustrating. And the Biden administration was absolutely utterly incapable of defending against 02:22:00.960 --> 02:22:06.160 the barrage of reactionary attacks, saying that Joe Biden was opening up the floodgates of migration 02:22:06.160 --> 02:22:11.520 from the third world, all this stuff. One of the few good things that Biden did was pull out of 02:22:11.520 --> 02:22:16.000 Afghanistan. Everyone endlessly critiqued him for it. His reputation never recovered. There was a 02:22:16.000 --> 02:22:26.800 Uniparty approach, different time, and then Biden's crowning achievement for his devastating 02:22:26.800 --> 02:22:35.680 term, sorry, was the complete advancement of Israel's genocidal project and genocidal 02:22:35.680 --> 02:22:44.880 ambitions over Gaza. 02:22:44.880 --> 02:22:50.640 And he will forever be remembered as the guy, as genocide Joe. 02:22:50.640 --> 02:22:57.920 Yeah, this is back in 2020, I said one truly wild thing that we haven't really talked about 02:22:57.920 --> 02:23:00.560 is Biden's stated interest in being a single term president. 02:23:00.560 --> 02:23:04.160 Like, we're just gonna throw away our incumbent advantage because Joe's gonna be a vegetable 02:23:04.160 --> 02:23:09.160 by the end of his presidency, truly incredible stuff. And at the time, the same centrist 02:23:09.160 --> 02:23:16.240 forces were yelling at me and saying, you're wrong. You're wrong. Because that was a false 02:23:16.240 --> 02:23:30.760 rumor. Turns out, it actually caused Democrats to lose a tremendous amount of credibility 02:23:30.760 --> 02:23:37.320 amongst the base because they could see, they could see personally that Joe Biden's mental 02:23:37.320 --> 02:23:53.000 faculties had deteriorated. Okay. And they lost a lot of trust. 02:23:53.000 --> 02:23:59.600 Harris is the frontrunner this for the next presidential election cycle quote 02:23:59.600 --> 02:24:03.160 she's been listening to the American people and really trying to figure out 02:24:03.160 --> 02:24:07.480 what's impacting them and how she can be of service to them right now we need 02:24:07.480 --> 02:24:11.200 leaders that can take us in a different direction and bring us back together as 02:24:11.200 --> 02:24:16.880 a party this from a longtime Democratic strategist who ran the DNC that 02:24:16.880 --> 02:24:20.320 nominated Harris in twenty twenty four 02:24:20.320 --> 02:24:21.520 well she's been 02:24:21.520 --> 02:24:24.480 uh... public servant for thirty seven years i don't know why she's still 02:24:24.480 --> 02:24:25.400 listening 02:24:25.400 --> 02:24:27.760 she's a stop listening and start leading 02:24:27.760 --> 02:24:31.480 nobody wants to keep people want to hear what she has to say 02:24:31.480 --> 02:24:33.720 and the problem is 02:24:33.720 --> 02:24:37.400 people want that new car smell as brock obama one said 02:24:37.400 --> 02:24:40.120 they're not going to give common harris a third at that 02:24:40.120 --> 02:24:44.040 very there is no appetite for another common harris candidacy 02:24:44.040 --> 02:24:46.660 and i hope that her consultants 02:24:46.660 --> 02:24:52.500 Consultants are only as good and they're only as useful to you if they tell you the truth. Oh my god 02:24:52.500 --> 02:24:58.660 I can't I don't want to hear it even hear this what there's more will came former DSA member reveals what the organization is really like. Oh 02:24:59.080 --> 02:25:02.900 My god, they got infiltrators. It's awesome 02:25:04.900 --> 02:25:10.220 So most of the commentary is just like DSA is ruining the party DSA is ruining the party 02:25:10.220 --> 02:25:13.540 His son is ruining the party real ever present danger 02:25:13.540 --> 02:25:23.100 uh, to, to, I mean, now that we got infiltrators, former, uh, former DSA, uh, members coming 02:25:23.100 --> 02:25:24.860 out and being like, this is why I left the party. 02:25:24.860 --> 02:25:28.620 They, they got too radical after October seven, all this shit. 02:25:28.620 --> 02:25:31.340 Just know that there is a lot of motion in this movement. 02:25:31.340 --> 02:25:36.860 There's that one like, uh, the thumbnail is just you next to Malia. 02:25:36.860 --> 02:25:37.860 I see that. 02:25:37.860 --> 02:25:50.180 Yeah, why I left the left, why I left the DSA, DSA is bad. 02:25:50.180 --> 02:25:53.100 Growing pains everybody. 02:25:53.100 --> 02:25:57.780 It was inevitable that we would get our moment in the spotlight and of course the lights 02:25:57.780 --> 02:26:03.660 are going to get too hot and I hope people can learn from my valuable experience in this 02:26:03.660 --> 02:26:04.740 field. 02:26:04.740 --> 02:26:07.980 uh... i've had the spotlight trained on me as a tank 02:26:07.980 --> 02:26:10.860 or uh... a decade almost as 02:26:10.860 --> 02:26:13.940 as someone who has been propped up as the singular 02:26:13.940 --> 02:26:16.100 uh... vestige singular 02:26:16.100 --> 02:26:19.040 arbiter of all things left on the internet 02:26:19.040 --> 02:26:23.180 now mainstream outlets are doing the same to the essay and uh... myself as 02:26:23.180 --> 02:26:26.980 well 02:26:26.980 --> 02:26:28.500 it's not necessarily a bad thing 02:26:34.740 --> 02:26:40.580 It's not a bad thing. This is a good thing. We just have to be more disciplined than ever before. 02:26:42.100 --> 02:26:49.460 We have to do away with sectarian infighting. Or even if we have constructive critique for one 02:26:49.460 --> 02:27:04.580 another and self critique as well, we have to still remember what this movement represents. 02:27:04.740 --> 02:27:06.500 Yeah 02:27:06.500 --> 02:27:09.840 Deeds on DNC's latest challenges DNC used to own building 02:27:10.860 --> 02:27:17.020 DnC uses own building as collateral for its biggest ever off-year loan in 2025 her previously unreported docs Ken Martin was a subject of an 02:27:17.100 --> 02:27:20.260 HR inquiry after throwing a phone near an aid yet 02:27:20.260 --> 02:27:25.140 No wonder the DSA is making such in rows right now. There isn't a Democratic Party to speak of there isn't 02:27:25.700 --> 02:27:30.020 The DNC is has fallen asleep with the wheel that this presents an opportunity for us 02:27:30.020 --> 02:27:39.460 It's a question we've been asking all week. What does a future under democratic socialism 02:27:39.460 --> 02:27:45.780 look like? Well, my next guest spent years as a member of the DSA until 2022. And he says 02:27:45.780 --> 02:27:51.700 the direction they're going in is, quote, utopian. Joining me now is a former DSA member, 02:27:51.700 --> 02:27:56.740 Jake Altman. Jake, that's an interesting. So Jake Altman is Jake Altman been dropping 02:27:56.740 --> 02:28:01.740 your name three months ago. Yeah, no, his whole, uh, his, what the fuck else I had allies 02:28:01.740 --> 02:28:05.460 supports his blood defense pedophiles. What the fuck. Amir Makhled lost the key union 02:28:05.460 --> 02:28:10.940 endorsement. I don't think he's talking about me. I think he's talking about Amir Makhled, 02:28:10.940 --> 02:28:18.100 but even that it's bullshit as well. But regardless, uh, Jake Altman's entire point is, uh, I'm 02:28:18.100 --> 02:28:22.180 a former DSA guy and I hate the DSA. They're too radical. Okay. 02:28:22.180 --> 02:28:28.740 because I would imagine that's considered a compliment in DSA circles, a utopian vision 02:28:28.740 --> 02:28:30.740 of the future. 02:28:30.740 --> 02:28:37.060 Yeah, I think they probably think that, but the reality is very, very scary. 02:28:37.060 --> 02:28:41.340 At this point, a majority of the governing board is controlled by people who are explicitly 02:28:41.340 --> 02:28:43.540 communists. 02:28:43.540 --> 02:28:44.980 So yeah, in... 02:28:44.980 --> 02:28:48.860 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait, hold on. 02:28:48.860 --> 02:28:58.940 Are you telling me that a socialist organization that has the word socialist in its name has 02:28:58.940 --> 02:29:04.060 socialist in its leadership structure? 02:29:04.060 --> 02:29:07.660 Hold on guys. 02:29:07.660 --> 02:29:11.180 Guys what the fuck is going on? 02:29:11.180 --> 02:29:12.540 I'm confused. 02:29:12.540 --> 02:29:14.780 I'm scared. 02:29:14.780 --> 02:29:19.480 I've been a lifelong Democratic Socialist of America member, 02:29:21.220 --> 02:29:24.620 and this is causing me great panic and great distress. 02:29:25.720 --> 02:29:28.640 A socialist organization with socialists? 02:29:30.300 --> 02:29:32.120 What the hell is going on? 02:29:34.140 --> 02:29:37.040 I think this isn't a bad thing. 02:29:37.040 --> 02:29:39.060 I think this is a good thing. 02:29:39.060 --> 02:29:44.060 This is an important way for even more radical elements 02:29:44.060 --> 02:29:49.380 elements of the Democratic Socialist of America to get more mainstream recognition. 02:29:49.380 --> 02:29:54.400 They will try to do everything in their power to say, this is radical, these guys are radical. 02:29:54.400 --> 02:30:01.980 This is an important moment for the DSA left and the DSA right to unite, okay? 02:30:01.980 --> 02:30:03.260 It's very important. 02:30:03.260 --> 02:30:08.820 If DSA right turns around and uses this as an opportunity, uses this kind of like sectarian 02:30:08.820 --> 02:30:14.300 in fighting as an opportunity to gain even more power within the organization, they're 02:30:14.300 --> 02:30:21.220 silly, and they're dumb, and they should not do this. Okay, this is how you destroy a large, 02:30:21.220 --> 02:30:35.620 um, a larger big tent socialist movement. I don't think it'll happen regardless because 02:30:35.620 --> 02:30:40.340 even the the furthest right elements within the democratic socialists of America, 02:30:40.980 --> 02:30:44.740 obviously, were very critical of that one person who just came out of nowhere 02:30:44.740 --> 02:30:48.900 and was like that one person on Twitter who was like, I joined DSA finally. 02:30:48.900 --> 02:30:52.740 And then a week later was like, I'm leaving DSA because the DSA needs to purge all of its tankies. 02:30:52.740 --> 02:30:57.460 I was like, who the fuck is this guy? The fuck? The fuck do you mean? 02:30:58.740 --> 02:31:00.420 The fuck are you talking about? 02:31:05.620 --> 02:31:12.620 You can't just join an organization and immediately be like, we have to clean house. 02:31:12.620 --> 02:31:15.620 What? 02:31:15.620 --> 02:31:19.620 The hell are you talking about? 02:31:19.620 --> 02:31:27.620 I guess the trash cleaned itself out the fuck. 02:31:27.620 --> 02:31:36.700 Our vision, that would be pretty dystopian. 02:31:36.700 --> 02:31:38.540 Why does that come as a surprise to you, Jake? 02:31:38.540 --> 02:31:44.180 I mean, if you remember the DSA, did you see some midway point between democratic socialism 02:31:44.180 --> 02:31:45.180 and- 02:31:45.180 --> 02:31:49.020 Yeah, and the New York Times immediately put the beat on DSA as well. 02:31:49.020 --> 02:31:52.020 They found the person and interviewed them. 02:31:52.020 --> 02:31:54.420 Yeah, I saw this. 02:31:54.420 --> 02:31:57.780 The fact that Lefty Winter joined DSA two seconds ago and is already getting interviewed 02:31:57.780 --> 02:32:00.660 by the New York Times for an anti-DSA hit piece is everything we needed to know. 02:32:00.660 --> 02:32:01.660 That's a plan. 02:32:01.660 --> 02:32:02.660 Yeah. 02:32:02.660 --> 02:32:05.540 Can't believe I'm doing an interview with a former AOC legislative aide with the New 02:32:05.540 --> 02:32:08.580 York Times who left DSA because of how they treated her. 02:32:08.580 --> 02:32:12.020 My New York Times call just ended in it, and it went very well. 02:32:12.020 --> 02:32:15.420 The three of us talked for over an hour, talked about what DSA could be doing instead, why 02:32:15.420 --> 02:32:16.940 we think DSA should split. 02:32:16.940 --> 02:32:21.260 AOC for President Electoral Politics are stories in the 2024 DNC speech about AOC and the online 02:32:21.260 --> 02:32:22.260 response. 02:32:22.260 --> 02:32:28.940 talked about the ultra left really happy how it went. Well, I don't know when the article 02:32:28.940 --> 02:32:32.500 will be out since he's trying to contact DSC folks and also other DSC folks who are on our 02:32:32.500 --> 02:32:36.340 side. We'll see plus there's DSC convention coming up that this reporter will be attending. 02:32:36.340 --> 02:32:46.340 It'll be interesting. 02:32:46.340 --> 02:32:48.340 Let me tell you something, okay? 02:32:48.340 --> 02:32:49.900 She's not a plant, she's just goofy. 02:32:49.900 --> 02:32:54.900 I mean, plant or not, this is record behavior, okay? 02:32:55.100 --> 02:32:56.060 This is what it is. 02:32:56.060 --> 02:33:01.060 The moment that you collaborate with a mainstream organ 02:33:01.780 --> 02:33:03.380 of propaganda and their hit piece 02:33:03.380 --> 02:33:05.220 against the democratic socialists of America 02:33:05.220 --> 02:33:07.420 is a moment where you become an op. 02:33:07.420 --> 02:33:11.540 You move on from useful idiot to opposition. 02:33:11.540 --> 02:33:13.400 That's just how it works. 02:33:13.400 --> 02:33:15.780 I've given plenty of interviews to the New York Times. 02:33:15.780 --> 02:33:21.740 I've interviews coming out with the Wall Street Journal, numerous other organizations, numerous other mainstream platforms, 02:33:21.740 --> 02:33:26.140 and you will never see me fucking shit on the Democratic Socialists of America. 02:33:30.060 --> 02:33:31.580 It's totally ridiculous. 02:33:31.580 --> 02:33:48.220 This is opposition, people using what kind of, like people using the fractional experiences 02:33:48.220 --> 02:33:52.300 that they have within the democratic socials of America or the longstanding experiences 02:33:52.300 --> 02:33:53.300 they've had. 02:33:53.300 --> 02:33:56.940 Like is this guy Altman, he was a part of the USA for a much longer time than this other 02:33:56.940 --> 02:33:57.940 person, right? 02:33:57.940 --> 02:34:02.940 He just didn't like the direction that the DSA was going, which is become successful. 02:34:02.940 --> 02:34:06.940 Okay, become a real powerhouse within American politics. 02:34:06.940 --> 02:34:13.940 He didn't like that. He didn't like the organization was growing and becoming actually a successful organization. 02:34:13.940 --> 02:34:20.940 So he left and now he tries to make a living off of shitting on left mobilization in this country. 02:34:23.940 --> 02:34:26.940 Communism that you hope that they would land on? 02:34:26.940 --> 02:34:35.940 When I joined 10 years ago, or more than 10 years ago at this point, when I joined it was a cozy, they were advocating for Scandinavian social democracy, right? 02:34:35.940 --> 02:34:39.940 And then over a 10-year period, we saw the organization just- 02:34:39.940 --> 02:34:47.940 Oh yeah, I was a social Democrat, and I didn't like that Democratic socialists were actually Democratic socialists. Okay, got it. 02:34:47.940 --> 02:34:56.940 So much of the disagreements amongst the American left also revolve around American foreign policy. 02:34:56.940 --> 02:35:04.940 Anti-imperialism is unfortunately one of the biggest dividing lines within left movements. 02:35:04.940 --> 02:35:14.940 That's one of the biggest issues. And that extends to all matter of American exceptionalist thought, whether it be, what do we do about immigration? 02:35:14.940 --> 02:35:20.380 these dirty third world masses are coming in to ruin the country. That is an attitude that the 02:35:20.380 --> 02:35:26.540 right has, and that is a reactionary sentiment born out of white supremacist thought that maybe even 02:35:26.540 --> 02:35:35.900 some people within the ranks of socialists in the country also share some kind of mutual resentment 02:35:35.900 --> 02:35:42.460 towards the masses that are coming from undeveloped countries, right? And the same goes for obviously 02:35:42.460 --> 02:35:49.180 principled, anti-imperialist thought. Many people do not want to see a world where America 02:35:49.180 --> 02:35:55.340 is not the hegemonic superpower. Many people do not want to understand what that requires. 02:35:56.780 --> 02:36:03.980 Okay? Obviously, while I on the one hand talk about building a big tent movement or a mass 02:36:03.980 --> 02:36:09.100 movement, on the other hand, I also understand that you have to have some fucking principles. 02:36:09.100 --> 02:36:16.680 principles. You have to have some goddamn principles. We must always say the truth. 02:36:16.680 --> 02:36:22.080 We must always seek truth from facts, and we must always say the truth. You do not have 02:36:22.080 --> 02:36:28.120 to compromise on your values. You can obviously entertain a more appropriate message, especially 02:36:28.120 --> 02:36:34.560 given the medium that you're occupying. But ultimately, you don't cast aside your values. 02:36:34.560 --> 02:36:37.000 You don't cast aside your moral compass. 02:36:37.640 --> 02:36:42.080 Become more and more extreme and move from that cozy Scandinavian social 02:36:42.080 --> 02:36:45.740 democracy to really something quite frightening, uh, to, you know, 02:36:45.760 --> 02:36:49.080 they're advocating for communism and their latest platform they've released. 02:36:50.040 --> 02:36:50.480 Yeah. 02:36:50.840 --> 02:36:52.700 You know, I'm old enough to remember that as well. 02:36:52.740 --> 02:36:56.040 Jake, I remember when people openly talked about Scandinavian countries as the 02:36:56.040 --> 02:36:57.920 model, you don't hear that anymore. 02:36:57.960 --> 02:37:02.720 You, you hear, um, yeah, about open embrace of communism and, and honestly, 02:37:02.720 --> 02:37:10.320 this weird as well embrace of Islamism. What? 02:37:10.320 --> 02:37:16.040 Communal Islamism, the open embrace of communism and Islamism is fucking awesome. Okay. 02:37:16.040 --> 02:37:20.780 Yeah. I mean, I think some people in DSA are out with the whitewash brush right now, trying 02:37:20.780 --> 02:37:25.080 to tell people trying to sell this line that it's just scant, it's cozy Scandinavian social 02:37:25.080 --> 02:37:30.180 democracy, but the reality is very, very different. And yes, it's true. They have this alliance 02:37:30.180 --> 02:37:35.120 with extremism, right? They are extreme and they have an alliance with very, very extreme 02:37:35.120 --> 02:37:38.940 pro-terror voices. And it's, frankly, it's quite frightening. 02:37:38.940 --> 02:37:43.680 So we've reported on that. What's been called the Red-Green Alliance, which is definitely 02:37:43.680 --> 02:37:50.360 a short-term arrangement between Islamic fascism and socialism. So you wrote, by the way, 02:37:50.360 --> 02:37:53.540 in the Free Press, I witnessed a rise in extremism ranging from the... 02:37:53.540 --> 02:37:58.220 Islamic fascism and socialism? Dog, you are literally a crystal fascist. You are a Christian 02:37:58.220 --> 02:38:03.060 fascist network. The movement is Christian fascism. That is the real movement. There 02:38:03.060 --> 02:38:07.460 is no Islamic fascism growing in this country. I don't even know what they mean when they 02:38:07.460 --> 02:38:12.300 say Islam of fascism. They just assume that like Zoran Mamdani or even some of like myself 02:38:12.300 --> 02:38:18.420 are actually trying to implement some sort of like Salafist regime in this country with 02:38:18.420 --> 02:38:24.420 Sharia as the law of the land, you know, it's fucking racist as Islamophobic tropes. 02:38:24.420 --> 02:38:28.500 Even if you collaborate with Leninist groups to growing animosity towards the United States 02:38:28.500 --> 02:38:33.420 in the West, my final departure was prompted by the DSA statement that attributed Russia's 02:38:33.420 --> 02:38:37.420 aggression against Ukraine to American imperialist expansionism. 02:38:37.420 --> 02:38:43.700 Jay, would you say that this change in the DSA, and we've had other people report on 02:38:43.700 --> 02:38:48.140 this, and it's moved towards both communism and the embrace of perhaps some radical Islam 02:38:48.140 --> 02:38:52.940 as well, belies just an underlying hatred of the West in America? 02:38:52.940 --> 02:38:55.100 It absolutely does. 02:38:55.100 --> 02:38:58.500 I think these people have never met an enemy of America. 02:38:58.500 --> 02:39:01.780 They weren't willing to fall down apologizing for. 02:39:01.780 --> 02:39:03.220 And we've just seen that again and again. 02:39:03.220 --> 02:39:05.500 We've seen that with Hamas. 02:39:05.500 --> 02:39:07.580 We've seen that with Russia. 02:39:07.580 --> 02:39:09.220 You know, we see it with Maduro. 02:39:09.220 --> 02:39:10.780 We see it in Cuba. 02:39:10.780 --> 02:39:16.260 All of these authoritarian regimes, they are ready to apologize for them again and again 02:39:16.260 --> 02:39:17.260 and again. 02:39:17.260 --> 02:39:19.700 But it's America that they view as fundamentally evil. 02:39:19.700 --> 02:39:20.700 And it's just wrong. 02:39:20.700 --> 02:39:26.060 Jake, do you look back on your time with the DSA now and think it got hijacked? 02:39:26.060 --> 02:39:31.140 Or do you now look at it and say, really, there was no ideological break once you started 02:39:31.140 --> 02:39:32.500 moving towards socialism? 02:39:32.500 --> 02:39:35.340 And it was inevitably going to run into the hands of extremists. 02:39:35.340 --> 02:39:39.220 By the way, Jake, just like it has in most countries around the world. 02:39:39.220 --> 02:39:47.420 Yeah, I mean, I think we do see that either in situations like this, you either move in 02:39:47.420 --> 02:39:53.220 in pragmatic direction towards pro-capitalist, social safety net, Scandinavian social democracy, 02:39:53.220 --> 02:39:55.740 which has a high degree of economic freedom. 02:39:55.740 --> 02:40:00.260 Or you move in this incredibly authoritarian way, right where you get secret police, people 02:40:00.260 --> 02:40:05.260 being rounded up and brutalized, and I'm afraid that that's what we're seeing in DSA right 02:40:05.260 --> 02:40:06.260 now. 02:40:06.260 --> 02:40:07.260 In America. 02:40:07.260 --> 02:40:08.260 Yeah. 02:40:08.260 --> 02:40:10.260 Well, Jake Alvin, thank you for talking about it and thank you about sharing that with us 02:40:10.260 --> 02:40:11.260 here today. 02:40:11.260 --> 02:40:16.820 Be sure to like and subscribe for all the Fox News latest on YouTube and catch full shows 02:40:16.820 --> 02:40:23.140 streaming now on Fox one. Do you understand why that? Do you understand why that allegiance is 02:40:23.140 --> 02:40:27.860 ridiculous? By the way, why that commentary is ridiculous? They're talking about, 02:40:29.300 --> 02:40:34.180 they're talking about how the DSA wants to build like secret police, right? 02:40:36.420 --> 02:40:39.460 And they're gonna, they're gonna be leninous. They're gonna do secret police. 02:40:40.500 --> 02:40:45.860 We already have secret police right now. And Fox News covers it on a daily basis and talks about 02:40:45.860 --> 02:40:51.700 how wonderful that secret police actually is. That's the issue. We already have it. We just 02:40:51.700 --> 02:40:57.460 have a fascist secret police. It's called ICE. Okay? That's what they're doing. We already have 02:40:57.460 --> 02:41:00.660 master surveillance. You talk about China. You talk about Chinese master surveillance. We already 02:41:00.660 --> 02:41:08.660 have it. Flock cameras. Okay? The problem is the West is taking some of the worst elements of 02:41:08.660 --> 02:41:12.740 Chinese governance and none of the good stuff. Okay, that's the issue. 02:41:16.020 --> 02:41:23.300 That's the problem. They choose to define China by some of the more repressive elements 02:41:23.860 --> 02:41:30.420 of Chinese governance, and they say that they oppose that while simultaneously they do it here, 02:41:30.420 --> 02:41:38.340 just under a fascist moniker. Do you understand? And it's also, it's unbelievably silly to say, 02:41:38.340 --> 02:41:44.180 Oh, the DSA wants the both abolish police and also simultaneously have secret police. Which is it? 02:41:44.580 --> 02:41:51.180 Are they deeply unserious? Do they want to abolish? Do they or are they very scary and authoritarian? 02:41:51.180 --> 02:41:54.260 Are they are they anarchistic or are they authoritarian? Which is it? 02:42:01.300 --> 02:42:03.300 Very stupid 02:42:03.660 --> 02:42:08.020 None of it makes sense. This is a train wreck for the Democratic Party Victor Davis Hansen 02:42:08.340 --> 02:42:16.100 complaining about it as well. I mean, Sean Hannity, promoting James Carville, socialist 02:42:16.100 --> 02:42:22.660 nightmare, more and more. Every, every damn night they're talking about DSA's scary, 02:42:22.660 --> 02:42:29.300 Hassanist's scary, AOC's scary. Let's look at one of the establishment, let's look at 02:42:29.300 --> 02:42:35.420 a established Democrat railing against their, their socialist counterparts. It's the same 02:42:35.420 --> 02:42:43.060 Fucking nightly show day in day out. We just have to keep pushing through this and and like I said 02:42:43.940 --> 02:42:45.940 We have to become undeniable 02:42:46.860 --> 02:42:53.540 Just do not back down. Do not actually concede on your opposition's framing on this issue. Do not 02:42:54.060 --> 02:42:57.940 Okay, support your comrades support your friends 02:42:59.860 --> 02:43:05.380 Support those who are ideologically closest to you whether they are to your left or to your right 02:43:05.420 --> 02:43:16.860 fight. Okay. Do not concede. We have to be unbroken. We have to be unbowed, and we will 02:43:16.860 --> 02:43:24.760 become undeniable of his life obsessively hating all things president trump washed up democratic 02:43:24.760 --> 02:43:29.460 going back to what you were saying about Biden. You called it. I'm 2020. I criticize the Barack 02:43:29.460 --> 02:43:33.260 Obama threat as entire presidency and I criticize Hillary Clinton as well. I am not a hypocrite. 02:43:33.260 --> 02:43:36.300 We're going to, we're going to, what the fuck? 02:43:36.860 --> 02:43:38.580 This just bricked my PC. 02:43:39.780 --> 02:43:42.140 This TikTok bricked my PC, dude. 02:43:43.580 --> 02:43:44.700 What the hell is going on? 02:43:48.700 --> 02:43:49.220 Uh-oh. 02:43:53.260 --> 02:43:54.300 You're a phony in your pocket. 02:43:55.780 --> 02:43:56.260 Okay. 02:43:56.260 --> 02:43:56.980 Here it is. 02:43:57.300 --> 02:43:58.260 Larry Elder. 02:43:59.620 --> 02:44:01.860 Uh, this is from my debate with Larry Elder here. 02:44:01.860 --> 02:44:10.760 This is all the way back in like, this is, this debate is from, I think it's from like 02:44:10.760 --> 02:44:16.680 20, from like 2019, 2018. 02:44:16.680 --> 02:44:20.000 I'm a Barack Obama threat as entire presidency and I criticize Hillary Clinton as well. 02:44:20.000 --> 02:44:21.000 I am not a hypocrite. 02:44:21.000 --> 02:44:22.000 You are afraid. 02:44:22.000 --> 02:44:27.240 We're going to talk about another issue now, which is the death of your bacteria, which 02:44:27.240 --> 02:44:29.200 is, which is, which is, you want the government to control medicine? 02:44:29.200 --> 02:44:30.760 Let's talk about another issue, which is- 02:44:30.760 --> 02:44:31.760 That's insane. 02:44:31.760 --> 02:44:35.440 Which is the issue of the Democratic primary now. 02:44:35.440 --> 02:44:39.280 This week we found out who are the 20 candidates that are going to be making it up onto the 02:44:39.280 --> 02:44:40.720 debate stage. 02:44:40.720 --> 02:44:43.760 This is a list of all 20 of them. 02:44:43.760 --> 02:44:47.240 By the way, all of them that have come on the issue is are on the debate stage. 02:44:47.240 --> 02:44:50.360 So, just candidates, good idea to come on the show. 02:44:50.360 --> 02:44:55.720 Sadly, for the candidates that are Goose eggs, Steve Bullock, Mike Gravel, Wayne Nessum, 02:44:55.720 --> 02:44:59.840 and Seth Moulton, none of them met the criteria. 02:44:59.840 --> 02:45:02.160 I know many of our viewers are crying over that. 02:45:02.160 --> 02:45:03.160 They will be missed. 02:45:03.160 --> 02:45:06.200 What for fellas an entertaining guy? 02:45:06.200 --> 02:45:08.560 Where do you guys see the state of the race? 02:45:08.560 --> 02:45:10.920 I think you both might agree on something. 02:45:10.920 --> 02:45:12.200 Neither of you like Joe Biden. 02:45:12.200 --> 02:45:14.800 Well, I'm not a fan of any of them. 02:45:14.800 --> 02:45:17.360 Me either, except for Bernie. 02:45:17.360 --> 02:45:19.840 Do you like Elizabeth Warren? 02:45:19.840 --> 02:45:20.840 Maybe. 02:45:20.840 --> 02:45:25.960 I'll vote for Elizabeth Warren, but it's definitely the second best option. 02:45:25.960 --> 02:45:30.640 So if Joe Biden got the nomination and is running against President Trump, you would not vote 02:45:30.640 --> 02:45:31.640 for him? 02:45:31.640 --> 02:45:32.640 I don't know. 02:45:32.640 --> 02:45:37.080 I've honestly considered moving up into the mountains and living an anarcho-primitivist 02:45:37.080 --> 02:45:40.840 lifestyle if Joe Biden becomes the Democratic nominee. 02:45:40.840 --> 02:45:43.800 I think Trump has a chance of defeating Joe Biden. 02:45:43.800 --> 02:45:48.380 But worse than that, even if Joe Biden wins, I think we go back to business as usual politics 02:45:48.380 --> 02:45:50.440 here in America. 02:45:50.440 --> 02:45:53.000 And next time around, it's not going to be Donald Trump. 02:45:53.000 --> 02:45:59.800 actually going to be an ideologically minded fascist, not a proto-fascist who kind of succeeded 02:46:00.440 --> 02:46:03.800 somehow. And you have to remember this is predating COVID by the way. 02:46:06.840 --> 02:46:15.400 Yeah, this is before COVID. Obviously the calculation shifted after COVID, but so it's not, 02:46:15.400 --> 02:46:26.600 Yeah, it's pre-COVID. But the point I made remains, and I was right. I just thought it 02:46:26.600 --> 02:46:30.200 wouldn't be Donald Trump, but Donald Trump came back far worse than ever before. 02:46:30.200 --> 02:46:35.240 So Joe Biden got the nomination and is running against President Trump. You would not vote for him? 02:46:35.240 --> 02:46:40.440 I don't know. I've honestly considered moving up into the mountains and living an 02:46:40.440 --> 02:46:45.240 anarcho-primitivist lifestyle of Joe Biden becomes the Democratic nominee. 02:46:45.240 --> 02:46:50.120 I think Trump has a chance of defeating Joe Biden, but worse than that, even if Joe Biden 02:46:50.120 --> 02:46:54.840 wins, I think we go back to business as usual politics here in America. 02:46:54.840 --> 02:46:57.400 And next time around, it's not going to be Donald Trump. 02:46:57.400 --> 02:47:02.400 It's actually going to be an ideologically minded fascist, not a proto-fascist who kind 02:47:02.400 --> 02:47:09.560 of succeeded somehow and fooled Americans for long enough to get into a position of power. 02:47:09.560 --> 02:47:12.840 Yeah, people yelled at me at the time because I said I would become an anarcho-permitivist, 02:47:12.840 --> 02:47:14.440 which is obviously a fucking joke. 02:47:14.440 --> 02:47:16.920 Or, but an actual terrifying leader. 02:47:16.920 --> 02:47:17.920 Oh my goodness. 02:47:17.920 --> 02:47:23.280 There was just a poll and Gallup, and they looked at Donald Trump ideologically. 02:47:23.280 --> 02:47:27.080 17% believed that he was too conservative. 02:47:27.080 --> 02:47:29.960 18% thought George W. Bush was too conservative. 02:47:29.960 --> 02:47:33.080 38% think that Donald Trump's views are just right. 02:47:33.080 --> 02:47:35.720 36% thought George W's views were just right. 02:47:35.720 --> 02:47:38.800 39% thought both of them were too conservative. 02:47:38.800 --> 02:47:45.800 So, the people perceive Donald Trump and George W. Bush to be almost mirror images ideologically. 02:47:45.800 --> 02:47:50.800 But I hear all this stuff about Donald Trump as changed Republican Party, turned into a party of cult. 02:47:50.800 --> 02:47:53.800 It's not true. People perceive them to be ideologically identical. 02:47:53.800 --> 02:47:57.800 I agree with you on that. I 100% agree with you. I think Donald, and we talked about this outside. 02:47:57.800 --> 02:48:02.800 Donald Trump is a perfectly sound Republican, but also George W. Bush was a war criminal. 02:48:02.800 --> 02:48:04.800 So, I don't like George W. Bush either. 02:48:04.800 --> 02:48:06.800 Alright, let's take a break. 02:48:06.800 --> 02:48:11.240 Let's take a break, let's let everybody cool down a little bit. 02:48:11.240 --> 02:48:15.400 Up next, we're going to talk about another issue that brings people together. 02:48:15.400 --> 02:48:20.120 The issue of homelessness here in California. 02:48:20.120 --> 02:48:33.040 Yeah, it's cooking even back then, baby. 02:48:33.040 --> 02:48:40.760 What is your face going to grow back? I miss it already. Just get used to it. Okay. You 02:48:40.760 --> 02:48:44.800 will get used to it eventually. If you close your eyes and listen to that guy, Glace Trump, 02:48:44.800 --> 02:49:01.760 and that sounds like Rubio. Denying Bush being a war criminal is insane. You mean saying 02:49:01.760 --> 02:49:07.120 Bush is a war criminal is insane, right? Because that's what that's what he was doing. Because 02:49:07.120 --> 02:49:12.080 I said George W. Bush and Donald Trump are aligned in many respects. And that's a bad 02:49:12.080 --> 02:49:18.160 thing because George Bush was bad and he was a war criminal. Um, I think you were wrong about 02:49:18.160 --> 02:49:26.720 the Trump cult part. But what do you mean? Strategist my old pal James Carville has now 02:49:26.720 --> 02:49:32.960 discovered a much more pressing matter in his own front yard. Take a look. These people are 02:49:32.960 --> 02:49:39.120 paternalistic and it's a bunch of overeducated little white turds who think they know more than 02:49:39.120 --> 02:49:44.480 other people know. He's literally talking about himself here. It's so funny. This is what like 02:49:44.480 --> 02:49:49.840 establishment, this is what establishing Democrats are. Overly educated paternalistic white turds 02:49:49.840 --> 02:49:56.560 for the most part, that masquerade as though they're like, they, they masquerade. Yeah. 02:49:56.560 --> 02:50:01.960 This is the bed that James Carvel sleeps in with a Dick Cheney operative, by the way, 02:50:01.960 --> 02:50:09.000 his wife, literally sleeping with the opposition. That's number one. Number two, number two, 02:50:09.000 --> 02:50:15.480 I don't know why he's like, you know, just doing these from a increasingly more ridiculous 02:50:15.480 --> 02:50:25.400 this outlet. Looks like he's in a casket already. Who's the skeleton is James Carville? 02:50:25.400 --> 02:50:39.240 Bill Clinton advisor. Campaign manager. And they know what's wrong and they're gonna go 02:50:39.240 --> 02:50:47.680 and then you got, they're talking about indicting that Nyahu and that the problem is you have 02:50:47.680 --> 02:50:53.360 a candidate or DSA candidate in New York saying we should be against interracial dating. 02:50:53.360 --> 02:50:58.480 Let me tell you something, these people and these are to all my black friends and friends, 02:50:58.480 --> 02:51:03.960 people like me, they think they know more than you do. 02:51:03.960 --> 02:51:07.240 They think their history is more glorious than yours. 02:51:07.240 --> 02:51:12.340 They think that Lenin was a more glorious human being in Martin Luther King or Frederick 02:51:12.340 --> 02:51:13.340 Douglas. 02:51:13.340 --> 02:51:16.260 That's what they really think. 02:51:16.260 --> 02:51:19.580 You gotta, where's this James Ben by the way? 02:51:19.580 --> 02:51:21.220 What do you mean where's this James Ben? 02:51:21.220 --> 02:51:28.580 He's always been this fucking right wing asshole. 02:51:28.580 --> 02:51:33.580 What the hell are we talking about? 02:51:33.580 --> 02:51:51.580 Um, so with MLK, he was a DSA, he was a democratic socialist, so he definitely was like somewhat 02:51:51.580 --> 02:51:55.900 anti-communist even though he was a pro-Hochimin. 02:51:55.900 --> 02:51:56.900 Okay. 02:51:56.900 --> 02:52:02.780 Uh, as far as Frederick Douglass goes, I wonder... 02:52:02.780 --> 02:52:04.780 I'm 02:52:08.860 --> 02:52:10.860 Frederick Douglass 02:52:15.860 --> 02:52:20.160 I wonder what Frederick Douglass is I don't know what his opinion was on 02:52:22.660 --> 02:52:25.900 On on you know the the growing 02:52:25.900 --> 02:52:36.460 Because like the Republican Party in its formation and its inception was created to abolish 02:52:37.180 --> 02:52:40.220 chattel slavery in the south and wage slavery in the north. 02:52:44.060 --> 02:52:50.940 So the Republican Party in its formation was like far more radical than it's, you know, 02:52:50.940 --> 02:52:58.860 contemporary example. Obviously, they fought to abolish slavery and won. But the Republican 02:52:58.860 --> 02:53:03.580 Party in its initial formation was certainly not what the Republican Party has become now. 02:53:05.580 --> 02:53:09.260 And this is something that people often forget. 02:53:09.260 --> 02:53:25.020 So, or they just, they kind of don't even think about this at all and of course Mark's, 02:53:25.020 --> 02:53:43.420 Carl Marx is a very fond of Abraham Lincoln. 02:53:43.420 --> 02:53:44.420 What is this? 02:53:44.420 --> 02:53:50.660 Well, well, well, United States of Israel. 02:53:50.660 --> 02:53:53.020 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says, Marco Rubio promised him that he will 02:53:53.020 --> 02:53:55.980 destroy the international criminal core for him. Oh yeah, we're going to talk about that 02:53:55.980 --> 02:54:03.700 too. Oh yeah, I had this link ready to go as well. 02:54:03.700 --> 02:54:06.420 Frederick Douglass and Karl Marx on the Paris commune in the labor question in the United 02:54:06.420 --> 02:54:09.620 States. I mean, I don't really care about James Carville shitting on the left again. 02:54:09.620 --> 02:54:16.820 Who gives a fuck? Good evening. Hope you're having a good day. This guy fucking John Federman. 02:54:16.820 --> 02:54:21.220 Like the question, the question you got to ask yourself, the question you got to ask 02:54:21.220 --> 02:54:26.300 you're like liberal, self identifying liberal family members, your neighbors, your friends, 02:54:26.300 --> 02:54:34.480 is this who do you feel closer to? Zoram Omdani, AOC, Democratic Socialists of America, or 02:54:34.480 --> 02:54:40.860 the likes of John Federman. Okay, it's that simple. I'm skipping Federman too. I'm not 02:54:40.860 --> 02:54:46.700 going to cover this. I'm going to get to, um, uh, this is a Oliver Larkin piece that's 02:54:46.700 --> 02:54:54.460 short we'll cover this is good because I want to give a little bit of I want to give a little bit 02:54:54.460 --> 02:55:02.220 of a highlight to our boy Oliver here he finally got some Fox News coverage but but basically 02:55:06.060 --> 02:55:13.340 virtually every liberal virtually every liberal despises John Fetterman. 02:55:13.340 --> 02:55:20.180 So, you should always present the question to these self-identifying democratic establishment 02:55:20.180 --> 02:55:28.620 figureheads, why they are repeating on Fox News half the time the things that John Federman 02:55:28.620 --> 02:55:34.620 says, okay? 02:55:34.620 --> 02:55:38.180 That's the question I have for a lot of the establishment loyalists. 02:55:38.180 --> 02:55:41.540 Unimperson asked the same question, do democratic establishment loyalists that hate people like 02:55:41.540 --> 02:55:44.220 Jesse Waters ever take a step back and think about why they don't really hate 02:55:44.220 --> 02:55:46.180 establishment Democrats as much as they pretend to. 02:55:47.420 --> 02:55:50.260 Yeah, Jesse Waters, I kind of like her. 02:55:50.540 --> 02:55:53.060 Mark from Mary, Pennsylvania, that's ticket to him, ladies, 02:55:53.060 --> 02:55:57.340 Michigan's version of tampon. Tim, I kind of like stick it to him, lady. 02:55:57.700 --> 02:56:00.300 I don't know. There's something about her. It's not that bad. 02:56:01.220 --> 02:56:02.820 Andy from Floral Park. 02:56:03.180 --> 02:56:06.540 Yeah. Of course he likes to get to him, lady. Why do you constantly 02:56:06.540 --> 02:56:09.260 refuse to acknowledge what is this? Younger song was more based there. 02:56:09.260 --> 02:56:12.860 I said I'm tired of pretending young house he had didn't soften his takes and said it like it is 02:56:14.300 --> 02:56:20.220 Why do you refuse to acknowledge reality? What make us on young again? Okay, dude 02:56:28.860 --> 02:56:30.860 1959 Republican Party platform 02:56:31.980 --> 02:56:38.860 Yeah, provide federal assistance low-income communities protect social security provide asylum for refugees extend minimum wage improve unemployment benefits 02:56:39.260 --> 02:56:42.940 Uh, system so it covers more people, strengthened labor laws so workers can more easily join 02:56:42.940 --> 02:56:47.340 a union, assure equal pay for equal work regardless of sex. 02:56:47.340 --> 02:56:53.300 For the record, the reason why this was the Republican party platform is because this 02:56:53.300 --> 02:56:57.820 predates the, the Reagan era, okay? 02:56:57.820 --> 02:57:02.340 This is still the tail end of the New Deal Democrats, New Deal democracy, basically, 02:57:02.340 --> 02:57:11.540 like running and dominating American politics for decades. Okay? That's why the Republicans 02:57:11.540 --> 02:57:19.460 were so conciliatory to the left message. That's why it feels like it's an entirely different 02:57:20.820 --> 02:57:26.820 entirely different reality. Okay, this doesn't mean that the Republicans were good. It's just 02:57:26.820 --> 02:57:32.820 that they had a far more progressive platform because they hadn't dominated American politics. 02:57:34.020 --> 02:57:40.420 Of course, past the point of Ronald Reagan, America does this right-wing neoliberal pivot. 02:57:40.420 --> 02:57:47.700 Bill Clinton obviously starts off with welfare reform, with like an incredibly right-wing 02:57:47.700 --> 02:57:52.020 platform. And we're still living in that environment right now. That's why there's 02:57:52.020 --> 02:57:58.660 tremendous growing pains. That's why there's tremendous growing pains right now because 02:57:59.380 --> 02:58:06.100 there are forces in the opposition. There are forces in the opposition that are our 02:58:08.100 --> 02:58:15.140 movement. We are trying to do everything in our power to force back an opposition party to 02:58:15.140 --> 02:58:21.400 genuinely present a popular platform, a broad popular platform based around 02:58:21.400 --> 02:58:27.220 universality, that will force the Republicans hand by winning, you know, 02:58:27.220 --> 02:58:32.700 by winning elections, by pushing for this agenda that is associated with 02:58:32.700 --> 02:58:41.300 democratic socialism that causes people to really reconsider what 02:58:41.300 --> 02:58:47.860 socialism truly means. And that it's not this scary force in American politics, but one that actually 02:58:47.860 --> 02:58:50.420 seeks to address some of the material inequalities. 02:58:50.420 --> 02:58:56.740 Tired, tired of a set of people on the very far left in the Democratic party, my party, 02:58:57.380 --> 02:59:02.420 telling us that in order for us to be progressives, we now have to believe ideas and support ideas 02:59:02.420 --> 02:59:08.340 that are completely nuts. You've got a set of defunding, decriminalizing open borders. 02:59:08.340 --> 02:59:12.020 We have run that play and gotten our butts kicked. 02:59:12.020 --> 02:59:13.380 We don't need to do it a second time 02:59:13.380 --> 02:59:16.620 to see if it turns out, if the movie turns out any different. 02:59:16.620 --> 02:59:18.420 Prominent Democrat voices pushing back 02:59:18.420 --> 02:59:20.740 on the growing influence of the Democratic Socialist 02:59:20.740 --> 02:59:22.740 candidates, they say are ultimately 02:59:22.740 --> 02:59:24.780 going to hurt the Democrat Party. 02:59:24.780 --> 02:59:26.700 So let's talk about it with the national co-chair 02:59:26.700 --> 02:59:29.620 of the Democratic Socialist of America, Megan Romer. 02:59:29.620 --> 02:59:32.060 Megan, welcome to the show. 02:59:32.060 --> 02:59:33.460 Thanks so much for having me, Shannon. 02:59:33.460 --> 02:59:35.260 OK, so there's this growing conversation 02:59:35.260 --> 02:59:37.580 about whether you can exist within the party, 02:59:37.580 --> 02:59:39.660 whether you want to upend it for your own purposes, 02:59:39.660 --> 02:59:41.540 a totally different platform. 02:59:41.540 --> 02:59:43.580 The Daily Economy quotes you saying this 02:59:43.580 --> 02:59:45.100 at a DSA convention last year. 02:59:45.100 --> 02:59:48.940 We will win by making conditions so intolerable 02:59:48.940 --> 02:59:51.100 for the ruling class that they would rather give in 02:59:51.100 --> 02:59:52.820 to our demands than continue to live 02:59:52.820 --> 02:59:54.460 with the disturbance we cause 02:59:54.460 --> 02:59:58.140 until we are able to fully seize power ourselves. 02:59:58.140 --> 03:00:00.220 Is that aimed at the Democrat Party? 03:00:02.260 --> 03:00:05.400 It's aimed at, it's aimed from the working class 03:00:05.400 --> 03:00:06.300 to the ruling class. 03:00:06.300 --> 03:00:09.940 So the two-party duopoly, the two corporate parties, 03:00:09.940 --> 03:00:11.860 it is aimed at both of them, 03:00:11.860 --> 03:00:14.700 and it comes from the working class. 03:00:14.700 --> 03:00:17.740 So should Van Jones and Roman Manuel and James Carvel 03:00:17.740 --> 03:00:19.300 and all of the establishment Democrats 03:00:19.300 --> 03:00:23.020 be worried about DSA plans from within their tent? 03:00:25.580 --> 03:00:28.020 The establishment Democrats should be worried 03:00:28.020 --> 03:00:30.620 about the voters and about what the voters think 03:00:30.620 --> 03:00:31.980 and about what the constituency thinks. 03:00:31.980 --> 03:00:34.980 And right now, they have not been delivering 03:00:34.980 --> 03:00:37.500 and our candidates are and have been, 03:00:37.500 --> 03:00:39.140 and it's resonating with voters. 03:00:39.140 --> 03:00:41.620 So Jimmy Harrison, who was the DNC chair 03:00:41.620 --> 03:00:44.460 after you guys had such a big night in New York City 03:00:44.460 --> 03:00:46.060 and knocking off some of those incumbents 03:00:46.060 --> 03:00:47.660 and having success with your candidates 03:00:47.660 --> 03:00:48.860 in the congressional primaries, 03:00:48.860 --> 03:00:51.660 he said, if you hate the Democratic Party, 03:00:51.660 --> 03:00:53.620 then don't run for our nomination. 03:00:53.620 --> 03:00:55.780 Don't use our resources, don't rely on our volunteers, 03:00:55.780 --> 03:00:56.940 don't use our infrastructure, 03:00:56.940 --> 03:00:59.420 focus on building the party you act on. 03:00:59.420 --> 03:01:02.220 What's really funny about that is what infrastructure, 03:01:02.220 --> 03:01:11.620 What volunteers, we have the volunteers. We have the doorknockers. You don't. You don't 03:01:11.620 --> 03:01:16.500 have any resources. Everything that we're, the only thing that the Democrats can say 03:01:16.500 --> 03:01:24.740 that, that we're utilizing is, is act blue. That's it. It's just a payment processor. 03:01:24.740 --> 03:01:31.740 That's it. And, and I guess van too. And there are alternatives in the works there too. So 03:01:31.740 --> 03:01:37.740 So it's not, there's no infrastructure that we are relying on. 03:01:37.740 --> 03:01:41.220 If anything, you are relying on us. 03:01:41.220 --> 03:01:48.100 You are relying on our door knockers, our organizers, the people who actually do want 03:01:48.100 --> 03:01:56.020 to make change in this country that reluctantly go and campaign for do nothing Democrats over 03:01:56.020 --> 03:02:01.340 and over again, right? 03:02:01.340 --> 03:02:03.340 it. 03:02:05.420 --> 03:02:10.700 Actually support other Democrats out there saying this is a separate party the DSA you don't belong 03:02:10.700 --> 03:02:16.700 within the party. How do you respond to his statements there? Yeah I mean the two parties have 03:02:16.700 --> 03:02:23.660 over years and decades created a system where ballot line access is. For the record even Van 03:02:23.660 --> 03:02:31.180 And Act Blue has material benefits when the DSA uses it, right? 03:02:31.180 --> 03:02:37.100 Because when you actually have Democratic socialists, doorknockers and 03:02:37.100 --> 03:02:42.220 canvassers utilizing the advanced system that updates the system with new data, 03:02:42.220 --> 03:02:49.900 and that's part of the reason why the Democrats would never kill the access that 03:02:49.900 --> 03:03:00.940 its insurgent left flank has to these established software that DSA uses as well. 03:03:00.940 --> 03:03:06.300 And the same thing goes for ACBLU, there's processing fees and things that we pay into 03:03:06.940 --> 03:03:14.540 that is beneficial for not only the DNC but the existing software and the payment processors 03:03:14.540 --> 03:03:19.180 to begin with. So even on that front, it's a mutually beneficial relationship at least for 03:03:19.180 --> 03:03:21.460 for the time being difficult for third parties 03:03:21.460 --> 03:03:25.060 i also have been told a lot of times by democrats don't vote third party it's 03:03:25.060 --> 03:03:26.140 wasting your vote 03:03:26.140 --> 03:03:29.000 uh... so we run on the democratic ballot line where it makes sense we run 03:03:29.000 --> 03:03:32.540 independence sometimes uh... where where that is a 03:03:32.540 --> 03:03:34.100 a viable possibility but 03:03:34.100 --> 03:03:37.540 it's a ballot line uh... and what matters is what the voters think in the 03:03:37.540 --> 03:03:39.020 voters are 03:03:39.020 --> 03:03:40.340 uh... overwhelmingly 03:03:40.340 --> 03:03:41.660 choosing our candidates 03:03:41.660 --> 03:03:45.060 they certainly did in new york and in other place colorado and others uh... it's 03:03:45.060 --> 03:03:48.900 It's not just a big city phenomenon or just a blue coastal phenomenon. 03:03:48.900 --> 03:03:51.960 Okay, so we're going to put up on the screen a few of the things that are part of your 03:03:51.960 --> 03:03:56.020 platform and I want to ask you just give me sort of a true or false on these. 03:03:56.020 --> 03:03:57.420 Abolish the Senate. 03:03:57.420 --> 03:03:58.420 True. 03:03:58.420 --> 03:03:59.420 Okay. 03:03:59.420 --> 03:04:03.500 Replace the presidency and Supreme Court as we now know them. 03:04:03.500 --> 03:04:05.500 Yep. 03:04:05.500 --> 03:04:07.180 Abolish ICE. 03:04:07.180 --> 03:04:09.340 Absolutely. 03:04:09.340 --> 03:04:14.900 Abolish Borders and give amnesty to anyone currently in the U.S. illegally. 03:04:14.900 --> 03:04:25.900 As a long-term plan, defund the Pentagon, abolish prisons, at least in large part, as 03:04:25.900 --> 03:04:28.700 part of a long-term program. 03:04:28.700 --> 03:04:32.580 Government or public ownership of most large corporations? 03:04:32.580 --> 03:04:34.580 Yes, absolutely. 03:04:34.580 --> 03:04:38.020 Let's go back through some of those then. 03:04:38.020 --> 03:04:40.180 Abolish the Senate. 03:04:40.180 --> 03:04:43.740 There are people who are in the Senate now who are very supportive of DSA. 03:04:43.740 --> 03:04:53.220 lose their seats? Well, the Senate is an anachronistic institution. It comes from the British House 03:04:53.220 --> 03:05:02.260 of Lords. It is made to protect power for, you know, the Senate was part of the the system 03:05:02.260 --> 03:05:07.660 that was made to make sure. I think the fast and easy answer to this is like, Texas has 03:05:07.660 --> 03:05:14.660 the same level as, say, Delaware. Why is that appropriate? Texas is a powerhouse, a red 03:05:14.660 --> 03:05:22.420 state. The Senate structure is unbelievably undemocratic. Its design is unbelievably undemocratic. 03:05:22.420 --> 03:05:26.820 We just want every state to have more of a say, including the populous red states, not 03:05:26.820 --> 03:05:33.500 just the populous blue states, but populous red states as well. That's it. Because there's 03:05:33.500 --> 03:05:40.700 plenty of big red states that are hubs of economic activity like Texas, that you can 03:05:40.700 --> 03:05:47.740 compare to blue states that are not, right? If you're going on Fox News, you can make 03:05:47.740 --> 03:05:53.260 that argument. If you're going on MSNBC, you can make the opposite argument. California 03:05:53.260 --> 03:06:01.100 has more Republicans and Democrats than numerous other states combined, and yet they have the 03:06:01.100 --> 03:06:12.780 same level of influence within the Senate. 03:06:12.780 --> 03:06:18.100 It's not necessarily Senate abolition per se, it's more so just making a more democratic 03:06:18.100 --> 03:06:20.300 and more representative process. 03:06:20.300 --> 03:06:25.220 But once again, we can have disagreements on this stuff, but you're just trying to present 03:06:25.220 --> 03:06:27.780 this as unbelievably silly. 03:06:27.780 --> 03:06:33.560 the Benefit Abolitioning Abolishing Prisons Law? Great question. The current carceral 03:06:33.560 --> 03:06:41.440 structure is not designed around benefiting or like, okay, the question is this, what 03:06:41.440 --> 03:06:47.860 is the purpose of prison? The purpose of prison theoretically is supposed to cordon off bad 03:06:47.860 --> 03:06:52.980 individuals that have violated the rules and like broken some fundamental rules in society 03:06:52.980 --> 03:06:59.220 So that we can all continue living in in society in harmony, right before guys stop 03:06:59.620 --> 03:07:05.260 I'm explaining it to a normie and you're like it's fucking slavery. Yes. I just shut the fuck up 03:07:05.740 --> 03:07:12.220 Okay, just stop for one second Jesus Christ the entire benefit. Thank you the entire purpose of 03:07:12.980 --> 03:07:14.980 prisons in theory 03:07:14.980 --> 03:07:18.700 okay, the entire purpose of prisons in theory is 03:07:20.740 --> 03:07:22.740 To create 03:07:22.980 --> 03:07:25.060 A more harmonious society. 03:07:25.060 --> 03:07:27.700 Societies have rules and regulations. 03:07:27.700 --> 03:07:31.740 There's a social contract when someone violates those contracts. 03:07:31.740 --> 03:07:34.300 When someone violates those rules, we have to punish them. 03:07:34.300 --> 03:07:37.260 We have to cordon them off of regular society. 03:07:37.260 --> 03:07:44.060 And ultimately, the goal is supposed to be to rehabilitate them, 03:07:44.060 --> 03:07:46.980 because prisons are not supposed to be permanent. 03:07:46.980 --> 03:07:54.820 Like, the purpose of a prison system is not to like permanently cordon off someone from society, 03:07:54.820 --> 03:07:59.860 unless they've done, you know, a heinous crime and it's virtually impossible for them to rehabilitate, 03:07:59.860 --> 03:08:03.060 but that's not the North Star, right? The whole point is, 03:08:06.020 --> 03:08:13.060 when someone does something heinous, we take them away from civilized society so they can't 03:08:13.060 --> 03:08:19.620 continue doing harm. And the ultimate purpose of this is not to permanently torture these people 03:08:20.340 --> 03:08:24.900 because it's not supposed to be about vengeance, right? It's supposed to be about justice. And 03:08:24.900 --> 03:08:30.900 justice is about ensuring that these people learn their lesson and they never commit the same wrong 03:08:30.900 --> 03:08:36.980 doing ever again. So if that's the actual theoretical purpose of the prison system, 03:08:36.980 --> 03:08:41.380 how can you look at the American carceral system and say that this has been successful 03:08:41.380 --> 03:08:47.860 when we have an unbelievably higher recidivism rate in this country than all other civilized 03:08:47.860 --> 03:08:53.300 nations, all other developed nations, all other OECD nations. This means that the current 03:08:53.300 --> 03:08:59.300 carceral system in the United States of America has been disastrous because our current carceral 03:08:59.300 --> 03:09:06.500 system in the United States of America cares little about ensuring that the rate of recidivism 03:09:06.500 --> 03:09:11.500 is lowered. What I'm talking about when I say recidivism for people that don't 03:09:11.500 --> 03:09:15.780 know is people who re-offend. They go to prison, they come out of prison, and 03:09:15.780 --> 03:09:20.060 they re-offend people in the United States of America that like the 03:09:20.060 --> 03:09:26.700 current structure, that sometimes even have a financial investment in the 03:09:26.700 --> 03:09:32.140 continuation of this current torturer's prison structure, say, oh well our rate of 03:09:32.140 --> 03:09:36.180 recidivism is terrible in this country, that means we just need to be more cruel. 03:09:36.180 --> 03:09:40.860 Okay, we need to be more ruthless in our prison system. This doesn't solve the problem at all. 03:09:40.860 --> 03:09:47.860 Look no further than Nordic-style democracies, okay, where their prison system is far more 03:09:47.860 --> 03:09:54.180 humane and therefore they have a much lower rate of recidivism, a reoffending, a rate of 03:09:54.180 --> 03:10:16.100 reoffense in those countries. Okay. Well, I am not a prison abolitionist. I understand 03:10:16.100 --> 03:10:23.580 where prison abolitionists are coming from. And I believe that they're closer to the truth 03:10:23.580 --> 03:10:30.400 than the normal position in American society, which is like, we need to throw away people 03:10:30.400 --> 03:10:37.020 and lock them up and torture them endlessly. That is insane. That is inhumane. That's incompatible 03:10:37.020 --> 03:10:42.720 with civilized democracy. And that's not something that other countries, even our Western allies 03:10:42.720 --> 03:10:52.240 or counterparts actually are on board with. But if I were to steal man, the prison abolitionist 03:10:52.240 --> 03:10:57.920 position as someone who has done a decent amount of reading on the subject matter from 03:10:57.920 --> 03:11:02.120 Angela Davis and onward. 03:11:02.120 --> 03:11:05.640 What I would say is this. 03:11:05.640 --> 03:11:11.320 Prison abolitionists believe that the overwhelming majority if not damn near entirety of all 03:11:11.320 --> 03:11:18.560 crime, even crime born out of anti-social personality disorder, is the root cause of 03:11:18.560 --> 03:11:20.280 all of that crime as material conditions. 03:11:20.280 --> 03:11:30.680 So if you solve the underlying material inequities, there will no longer be any need for the current 03:11:30.680 --> 03:11:33.200 carceral structure. 03:11:33.200 --> 03:11:36.040 Okay? 03:11:36.040 --> 03:11:46.000 That's it. 03:11:46.000 --> 03:11:52.460 Prison abolitionists do not believe in ending all prisons tomorrow. 03:11:52.460 --> 03:11:54.260 Prison abolitionists don't believe that. 03:11:54.260 --> 03:11:59.900 I'm not a prison abolitionist, but you have to be honest about what they believe. 03:11:59.900 --> 03:12:08.060 Prison abolitionists believe that we need to move to a healthier society where there 03:12:08.060 --> 03:12:11.540 is no more need for prison. 03:12:11.540 --> 03:12:13.740 Okay? 03:12:13.740 --> 03:12:24.740 That's not true. 03:12:24.740 --> 03:12:29.740 Okay. 03:12:29.740 --> 03:12:31.740 What's the prison abolitionist position then? 03:12:31.740 --> 03:12:35.740 I think that's a pretty fair assessment. 03:12:35.740 --> 03:12:37.740 Thank you very much for joining us. 03:12:37.740 --> 03:12:39.740 Thank you. 03:13:05.740 --> 03:13:21.060 That the people didn't have too much of a say, so we want to expand the Congress significantly 03:13:21.060 --> 03:13:22.660 but make it a unicameral legislature. 03:13:22.660 --> 03:13:27.020 Okay, and without the presidency and Supreme Court to abolish ICE, would there be any enforcement 03:13:27.020 --> 03:13:31.300 of immigration laws or with abolishing the border, there's, we're not enforcing immigration 03:13:31.300 --> 03:13:33.100 laws, they go away. 03:13:33.100 --> 03:13:40.940 Yeah, so again, this is part of this longer term plan and part of it includes, yeah, I 03:13:40.940 --> 03:13:45.520 mean, if we can get to the place where the U.S. is not destabilizing countries in order 03:13:45.520 --> 03:13:50.460 to mine them for resources, there will be significantly less migration. 03:13:50.460 --> 03:13:54.220 What do you say to those who thought that that would potentially destabilize the U.S.? 03:13:54.220 --> 03:13:57.540 Because there's only so much the economy can bear and when you have a flood of people 03:13:57.540 --> 03:14:01.300 coming in, it might not work out economically. 03:14:01.300 --> 03:14:06.300 to a lot of analyses if you just open up the borders and there's no enforcement at all. 03:14:06.300 --> 03:14:10.460 Well we're not saying open the borders tomorrow. We're saying rebuild an economy and a society 03:14:10.460 --> 03:14:17.180 that works for everyone. And the open borders is part of a longer term international plan 03:14:17.180 --> 03:14:21.860 that involves us stopping destabilizing countries. Most people who are coming to this country 03:14:21.860 --> 03:14:26.580 are coming as economic refugees and we destabilized their country. We did that. 03:14:26.580 --> 03:14:41.580 Well, a lot of, you know, if you look at data, the Center for Immigration Studies says right now the people, the households here in the U.S. that are headed up by people who are here illegally, nearly 61% of them are on some type of government or welfare program here in the U.S. 03:14:41.580 --> 03:14:46.580 Can we afford to do that? I mean, at some point you run out of resources. 03:14:46.580 --> 03:14:51.580 Well, right now we make it very difficult for people to participate in society. 03:14:51.580 --> 03:14:54.580 That's bullshit. 03:14:56.580 --> 03:15:02.580 Center for Immigration Studies is an insanely white nativist outlet. 03:15:02.580 --> 03:15:09.580 It's an unbelievably racist shop and their numbers are always wrong. 03:15:09.580 --> 03:15:25.580 Remember, outside of Cato and Brookings, most of the think tanks that hyper-focus on immigration are just like super white nativist 03:15:25.580 --> 03:15:37.280 and objectively lying all the time. Okay? The thing that they they complain about as far as welfare goes is American citizens. 03:15:37.280 --> 03:15:47.580 They're just coordinating off American citizens that happen to be children of either undocumented migrants with tourists or, you know, legal permanent residents as undocumented migrants themselves. 03:15:47.580 --> 03:15:50.620 It's fundamentally at odds with birthright. 03:15:51.900 --> 03:15:55.900 Those are American citizens. Undocumented migrants can't take advantage of the social safety nets. 03:15:55.900 --> 03:15:58.540 We already have an issue with social safety nets in this country. 03:15:59.980 --> 03:16:02.940 We don't really have a bountiful social safety net here at all. 03:16:02.940 --> 03:16:06.700 The strain that undocumented migrants put on the American social safety nets is negligible. 03:16:06.700 --> 03:16:09.980 It's not real. This bullshit is made up. 03:16:09.980 --> 03:16:21.220 in such a way that they can avoid using services. So we want people to be able to work and live 03:16:21.220 --> 03:16:27.900 and go to school and actually participate, which means contributing to society and also 03:16:27.900 --> 03:16:31.540 getting what they need from society. It's a collective choice we can all make. 03:16:31.540 --> 03:16:35.740 So if we talk about abolishing prisons then, does that make society better? I mean, is 03:16:35.740 --> 03:16:41.020 Is there anybody that should be incarcerated, I mean rapists, child predators, murderers? 03:16:41.020 --> 03:16:45.660 Yeah, so the long term plan, when we think about most people who are in prison, they 03:16:45.660 --> 03:16:48.660 are mostly in prison for crimes of poverty. 03:16:48.660 --> 03:16:49.660 So when we- 03:16:49.660 --> 03:16:50.660 But that's not what I'm talking about. 03:16:50.660 --> 03:16:54.660 I'm talking about the really, you know, like the murderers and rapists of the world. 03:16:54.660 --> 03:17:00.180 Yeah, so when we get rid of this need for crimes of poverty to exist, when we get rid 03:17:00.180 --> 03:17:05.540 of that destabilizing force that creates so many people who are living in desperate situations 03:17:05.540 --> 03:17:09.680 and doing desperate things, that brings those numbers down to very small numbers. 03:17:09.680 --> 03:17:11.980 And then we can collectively decide what we do with those people. 03:17:11.980 --> 03:17:15.260 I suspect it won't look like the prison system as we know it today. 03:17:15.260 --> 03:17:19.580 Okay, but you do think some people need to be locked away from society? 03:17:19.580 --> 03:17:22.620 Some people are not able to be functional members of society. 03:17:22.620 --> 03:17:23.620 That's true. 03:17:23.620 --> 03:17:26.100 But what does that look like to keep the rest of us safe? 03:17:26.100 --> 03:17:27.500 You know, we're talking about safety. 03:17:27.500 --> 03:17:30.500 We're not talking about... 03:17:30.500 --> 03:17:42.500 Um, yeah, I think like this is where this is where my ultra instant kicks in where I'm like, oh, I want I want to put people in prison. 03:17:42.500 --> 03:17:44.500 I do. 03:17:44.500 --> 03:17:54.500 Prison is about rehabilitation is supposed to be about rehabilitation. Unfortunately, in this country, it's about, you know, enacting some court, some sort of like false draconian sense of vengeance. 03:17:54.500 --> 03:18:01.660 Having said that, however, I mean, I'd put a lot of people in prison. I put a lot of you know Trump the Epstein class 03:18:03.740 --> 03:18:06.900 You know, there's definitely a lot of hucksters and 03:18:08.140 --> 03:18:12.460 Broadsters and charlatans that are currently being defended by Fox News that I would 03:18:13.100 --> 03:18:16.900 Love to put behind bars. We have to live in a society with law and order 03:18:18.140 --> 03:18:20.140 You know 03:18:24.500 --> 03:18:41.480 I'm a firm and committed believer in law and order baby. 03:18:41.480 --> 03:18:48.540 I would put 10 CEOs poisoning the water supply in exchange for the one mother who had to 03:18:48.540 --> 03:18:54.260 go to prison for stealing $14 so she could pay for her son's diapers. 03:18:54.260 --> 03:18:58.420 Currently, in American society, that's who we jail. 03:18:58.420 --> 03:19:00.340 We jailed a little guy. 03:19:00.340 --> 03:19:02.580 We jailed a working class stiff. 03:19:02.580 --> 03:19:06.660 We jailed a dispossessed who's gotten fucked over, over and over again. 03:19:06.660 --> 03:19:11.820 Meanwhile, the real criminals at the tippy top get to design the rules and get away with 03:19:11.820 --> 03:19:15.500 violating the same rules that they wrote anyway. 03:19:15.500 --> 03:19:18.220 Those are the people who should be in prison. 03:19:18.220 --> 03:19:23.500 Punishment, we're talking about making sure that we are safe, everybody's safe, everybody 03:19:23.500 --> 03:19:26.900 maintains their dignity, and everybody maintains their humanity. 03:19:26.900 --> 03:19:28.900 Okay, so much more to discuss. 03:19:28.900 --> 03:19:32.740 I hope that you will come back, especially as we figure out what the party does with 03:19:32.740 --> 03:19:38.100 respect to you, meeting the Democrat Party, and your role in it, and in 2028 especially. 03:19:38.100 --> 03:19:40.660 Thank you, Pomer, thank you. 03:19:40.660 --> 03:19:41.660 Thank you so much for having me. 03:19:41.660 --> 03:19:42.660 It's been a pleasure. 03:19:42.660 --> 03:19:49.380 You know prison is a construct right? Not a place that's different in jail. 03:19:51.380 --> 03:19:56.580 Whatever man, I'm using prison and jail interchangeably and colloquially. Okay. 03:19:58.260 --> 03:20:05.220 I know. I know. I want long-term and voluntary commitment for financial criminals. Okay. 03:20:06.580 --> 03:20:08.180 Put them in whatever the fuck you want to call it. 03:20:12.660 --> 03:20:18.260 I think it says a lot about our priorities who we choose to jail and who we choose never 03:20:18.260 --> 03:20:21.860 to prosecute at all. 03:20:42.660 --> 03:21:05.860 Thank you very much for having me on, Martha. 03:21:05.860 --> 03:21:09.820 So one of the things that we just played in the tease was your comment about Prime Minister 03:21:09.820 --> 03:21:10.820 Netanyahu. 03:21:10.820 --> 03:21:15.900 relevant obviously because of what's going on in Iran and also because he's expected 03:21:15.900 --> 03:21:22.100 and the president has said he's welcome here for a visit and that he'll be back in September. 03:21:22.100 --> 03:21:24.420 He's coming next week and he'll be back in September. 03:21:24.420 --> 03:21:27.340 It was a little bit embarrassing for Mayor Ramamdhani, I think, because he had to admit 03:21:27.340 --> 03:21:32.260 that he doesn't have any jurisdiction to arrest the prime minister of another country 03:21:32.260 --> 03:21:37.460 in New York and the NYPD, doesn't have that kind of power at all either. 03:21:37.460 --> 03:21:44.840 regrets about sort of jumping on that bandwagon, that idea that he should be arrested? 03:21:44.840 --> 03:21:50.820 No regrets and not necessarily bandwagoning. I'm just following what the International 03:21:50.820 --> 03:21:55.700 Criminal Court has assessed that Benjamin Netanyahu has committed war crimes in Gaza. 03:21:55.700 --> 03:22:00.820 And I believe that the United States, any federal or otherwise law enforcement entity 03:22:00.820 --> 03:22:05.900 that has the legal jurisdiction to arrest Benjamin Netanyahu for his war crimes, that 03:22:05.900 --> 03:22:06.900 That should be enforced. 03:22:06.900 --> 03:22:11.740 The United States needs to abide by the law, both our own laws and international law. 03:22:11.740 --> 03:22:16.820 The horror in Gaza has now extended to include the deaths of 18 U.S. service members and 03:22:16.820 --> 03:22:21.260 over 500 who have been injured in this illegal war with Iran. 03:22:21.260 --> 03:22:25.620 So we just want to de-escalate the situation and bring this killing to a close. 03:22:25.620 --> 03:22:31.700 Well, you're grouping a lot of things together there in terms of what's going on with Iran 03:22:31.700 --> 03:22:32.700 as well. 03:22:32.700 --> 03:22:35.540 But, you know, not to get too deep into the weeds. 03:22:35.540 --> 03:22:37.460 Great messaging. 03:22:37.460 --> 03:22:40.340 Yeah, tied back to Benjamin Netanyahu's contributions 03:22:40.340 --> 03:22:44.820 to dying American soldiers on Fox News brilliant strategy. 03:22:44.820 --> 03:22:49.020 It's not only correct, but it's a connection 03:22:49.020 --> 03:22:51.540 that Fox News viewers should be able to make 03:22:51.540 --> 03:22:52.740 and could potentially make. 03:22:52.740 --> 03:23:11.500 of course for the ultras they would be like why did you go on Fox News and not 03:23:11.500 --> 03:23:15.740 say that the america caca Nazis were murdered and that's a good thing and 03:23:15.740 --> 03:23:19.060 you should be pissing on their graves or something because they're fucking 03:23:19.060 --> 03:23:36.260 stupid. Okay. You know, I think it's good. I think it's good to message like this. One, 03:23:36.260 --> 03:23:39.900 because it's true. It is true. 03:23:39.900 --> 03:23:49.980 It's on the ICC, but the United States doesn't recognize the jurisdiction of the International 03:23:49.980 --> 03:23:50.980 Criminal Court. 03:23:50.980 --> 03:23:53.660 Neither does Iran, by the way. 03:23:53.660 --> 03:23:58.260 Yeah, we recognize it for Vladimir Putin, though, sometimes. 03:23:58.260 --> 03:24:03.420 Do you think that the Iranian leaders for massacring tens of thousands of people in 03:24:03.420 --> 03:24:07.860 their streets, should they face some kind of international criminal court justice as 03:24:07.860 --> 03:24:10.060 as well for their massacres? 03:24:11.780 --> 03:24:14.220 I certainly support the international criminal courts 03:24:14.220 --> 03:24:16.220 enforcement of anyone that's accused 03:24:16.220 --> 03:24:18.260 of massacring civilians. 03:24:18.260 --> 03:24:21.300 And my most proximate concern right now, 03:24:21.300 --> 03:24:22.740 running for United States Congress, 03:24:22.740 --> 03:24:25.660 is the crimes that are committed by the United States, 03:24:25.660 --> 03:24:27.700 the bombing of a girl's school in Minab 03:24:27.700 --> 03:24:30.260 that killed 120 school-aged girls, 03:24:30.260 --> 03:24:32.380 as well as dozens of civilians. 03:24:32.380 --> 03:24:33.980 On the very first day of this war, 03:24:33.980 --> 03:24:35.300 there must be accountability. 03:24:35.300 --> 03:24:41.580 primary and incumbent Democrat who was very supportive of the Biden administration supporting 03:24:41.580 --> 03:24:44.900 Benjamin Netanyahu in the early days of this genocide. 03:24:44.900 --> 03:24:57.140 Look, look, notice when the left goes on Fox News to criticize a centrist. Do you notice 03:24:57.140 --> 03:25:03.060 that there's a major difference here? One, the host is of course in disagreement. Sometimes 03:25:03.060 --> 03:25:09.820 an utter disbelief of the things that he's saying, too. He is criticizing the Republicans 03:25:09.820 --> 03:25:15.660 first and foremost, and then offering criticism or critiques to Democratic counterparts that 03:25:15.660 --> 03:25:19.460 are conciliatory to the Republican agenda. 03:25:19.460 --> 03:25:27.220 When centrists go on Fox News, they agree with Fox News. They agree with Fox News and attack 03:25:27.220 --> 03:25:33.460 their left leg. When a leftist goes on Fox News, the leftists will attack the Republicans, 03:25:33.460 --> 03:25:39.460 the leftists will attack Trump, the leftists will usually attack MAGA, and then the leftists 03:25:39.460 --> 03:25:47.140 will pair that critique with those in the ranks of the Democratic Party that are conciliatory 03:25:47.140 --> 03:25:51.540 to the MAGA agenda. That's the major difference. That's what you're supposed to do. 03:25:51.540 --> 03:25:59.180 I have a very strong core critique of both political parties that have been party to this endless war after my entire life 03:25:59.180 --> 03:26:03.600 Seeing two trillion dollars spent on a wars with Iraq and Afghanistan 03:26:03.600 --> 03:26:10.100 I fear very much that the Iranian regime has killed thousands of American military members 03:26:10.780 --> 03:26:19.080 Around the world really over the last 47 years. So they've been attacking us for for many many years and killing our people 03:26:19.080 --> 03:26:20.580 That's not true 03:26:20.580 --> 03:26:24.500 Oh, I am sorry, Oliver, we got to go to the White House right now because we have a live 03:26:24.500 --> 03:26:25.500 event. 03:26:25.500 --> 03:26:28.060 But I hope you'll rejoin us because it's a really important conversation that Americans 03:26:28.060 --> 03:26:29.340 are having right now. 03:26:29.340 --> 03:26:31.020 And I thank you for your time today. 03:26:31.020 --> 03:26:32.820 We've got breaking news. 03:26:32.820 --> 03:26:37.780 Be sure to like and subscribe for all the Fox News latest on YouTube and catch full 03:26:37.780 --> 03:26:42.340 show streaming now on Fox one. 03:26:42.340 --> 03:26:45.060 I am tired, tired, tired. 03:26:45.060 --> 03:26:48.540 Aren't we already watched this? 03:26:48.540 --> 03:26:57.000 Bernard went on face-to-nation ZBS and clipped Rahm Emanuel a clinic. I got a P but it's very exciting stuff 03:26:59.880 --> 03:27:04.220 13 straight days of US bombing US strikes were halted over the weekend 03:27:04.620 --> 03:27:12.860 regional sources tell CBS that talks between Oman and Iran on reopening the Strait of Hormuz appear to be headed in a positive direction 03:27:12.860 --> 03:27:17.540 direction, although caution more negotiations are needed. 03:27:17.540 --> 03:27:22.980 As oil prices rose again last week to their highest level in more than a month, a new 03:27:22.980 --> 03:27:28.580 CBS poll finds two-thirds of Americans believe the U.S. should end the conflict with Iran 03:27:28.580 --> 03:27:35.260 now, while just one-third say it should continue until Iran makes further concessions. 03:27:35.260 --> 03:27:39.300 Only 35 percent approve of President Trump's handling of the war. 03:27:39.300 --> 03:27:44.180 Meanwhile, the Pentagon is asking Congress for additional funding as the costs of the 03:27:44.180 --> 03:27:46.060 conflict mount. 03:27:46.060 --> 03:27:50.380 We begin this morning with Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. 03:27:50.380 --> 03:27:53.460 Welcome back to Face the Nation, Senator. 03:27:53.460 --> 03:27:56.060 Good to be with you. 03:27:56.060 --> 03:28:01.820 Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told Congress he needs $67 billion on an emergency basis 03:28:01.820 --> 03:28:05.620 to help pay the troops, to help restock munitions. 03:28:05.620 --> 03:28:10.520 I know you object to the war, but we're in this thing now, and I know you want to help 03:28:10.520 --> 03:28:11.520 the troops. 03:28:11.520 --> 03:28:15.080 So how do you do that without providing the funding? 03:28:15.080 --> 03:28:21.460 Well, Margaret, we need $67 billion to build housing to make sure that all of our people 03:28:21.460 --> 03:28:26.560 have health care, that we deal with climate change, that we deal with a middle class, 03:28:26.560 --> 03:28:29.560 a working class in this country that is struggling. 03:28:29.560 --> 03:28:32.400 The war in Iran is unconstitutional. 03:28:32.400 --> 03:28:33.720 It is illegal. 03:28:33.720 --> 03:28:35.400 Should never have been started. 03:28:35.400 --> 03:28:39.960 We need to sit down, negotiate, and this war as quickly as possible. 03:28:39.960 --> 03:28:44.880 So our polling that we just referenced there show that the president does have low approval 03:28:44.880 --> 03:28:50.640 ratings, but when it comes to Democrats, they actually fare slightly worse on this. 03:28:50.640 --> 03:28:55.200 When they were asked by CBS, who has a better approach to around 32 percent, say Trump and 03:28:55.200 --> 03:28:58.480 the GOP, only 30 percent say Democrats. 03:28:58.480 --> 03:29:02.160 So what should the solution be here? 03:29:02.160 --> 03:29:06.040 Is there an affirmative vision from Democrats on how to get out of it? 03:29:06.040 --> 03:29:10.640 The solution should be A, and by the way, both the House and the Senate have voted for 03:29:10.640 --> 03:29:14.860 war powers resolution that makes it clear what Trump is doing is illegal. 03:29:14.860 --> 03:29:19.720 But given that we are where we are right now, let's sit down, let's negotiate with them, 03:29:19.720 --> 03:29:25.440 let's stop the killing, let's stop the devastation to our economy, which is raising gas prices, 03:29:25.440 --> 03:29:27.120 prices all across the board. 03:29:27.120 --> 03:29:28.120 That's what we've got to do. 03:29:28.120 --> 03:29:30.640 Sit down, negotiate, let's end this war. 03:29:30.640 --> 03:29:37.880 couple losses where they are. Yes. Okay. Well, we are 100 days out from the mid 03:29:37.880 --> 03:29:41.480 term races. I know you've been working going around the country to help boost 03:29:41.480 --> 03:29:46.520 some of these progressive candidates. Main is a state that could flip control 03:29:46.520 --> 03:29:52.020 of the Senate. Yesterday, 600 main primary delegates replaced scandal ridden 03:29:52.040 --> 03:29:58.600 grand platner with Troy Jackson. He's a logger. He's a progressive. He had been 03:29:58.600 --> 03:30:02.400 allied with Plattener before he called on him to wake out in the wake of those sexual 03:30:02.400 --> 03:30:08.280 assault allegations. I'm wondering, with a hundred days out, can Jackson play catch-up 03:30:08.280 --> 03:30:09.280 here? 03:30:09.280 --> 03:30:16.000 I think he can. I think what Troy, and I've known Troy for many years, what he understands 03:30:16.000 --> 03:30:21.840 that the people of Maine are sick and tired of a rigged economy in which the billionaire 03:30:21.840 --> 03:30:26.160 class is getting richer and richer where we have more income and wealth inequality today 03:30:26.160 --> 03:30:31.640 than we've ever had in the history of this country while 60% of our people, including 03:30:31.640 --> 03:30:37.040 in Maine, including in Vermont, all over this country are living paycheck to paycheck, 03:30:37.040 --> 03:30:41.760 trying to put food on the table, trying to pay for health care for housing, put aside 03:30:41.760 --> 03:30:46.400 a few bucks for retirement. Troy understands that. He's a working class guy. He's from 03:30:46.400 --> 03:30:52.360 the working class. He is very articulate. I think he stands an excellent chance to win. 03:30:52.360 --> 03:30:57.760 The problem that he has, and the problem that we have in Michigan and Minnesota right now, 03:30:57.760 --> 03:31:03.240 we have candidates of Abdul El Sayed and Peggy Flanagan, is that the oligarchs, the billionaire 03:31:03.240 --> 03:31:09.900 class, are throwing unbelievable amounts of money into these campaigns to protect the 03:31:09.900 --> 03:31:12.040 establishment candidates. 03:31:12.040 --> 03:31:15.160 And whether we can overcome that, that remains to be seen. 03:31:15.160 --> 03:31:21.480 But in Michigan right now, the billionaires' super PACs are spending $50 million against 03:31:21.480 --> 03:31:22.480 I'll say it. 03:31:22.480 --> 03:31:26.560 Well, you were an early supporter in Maine of Graham Plattener. 03:31:26.560 --> 03:31:27.720 You helped him rise. 03:31:27.720 --> 03:31:32.400 Do you regret not acting earlier to call for him to drop out, given the warning signs? 03:31:32.400 --> 03:31:35.960 Would that have given you a leg up here with Jackson? 03:31:35.960 --> 03:31:37.880 No, I don't think so. 03:31:37.880 --> 03:31:42.520 When we heard the serious allegations made against him, I wanted to get on the phone. 03:31:42.520 --> 03:31:43.520 I wanted to talk to him. 03:31:43.520 --> 03:31:44.520 I did. 03:31:44.520 --> 03:31:50.960 I asked, along with virtually all his supporters, I bet he should get out of the race anyway. 03:31:50.960 --> 03:31:54.960 But you are confident that you are endorsements. 03:31:54.960 --> 03:31:58.960 These other candidates have been fully met. 03:31:58.960 --> 03:32:02.960 Well look, I think... 03:32:02.960 --> 03:32:06.960 There were hundreds of candidates, I don't know, who has been quote unquote fully 03:32:06.960 --> 03:32:10.960 then. Well you just mentioned two of them. All I know is 03:32:10.960 --> 03:32:14.960 Margaret, the candidates that we are supporting 03:32:14.960 --> 03:32:18.960 are standing up for the working class of this country. And at a time 03:32:18.960 --> 03:32:24.200 time when so many people are discouraged, deeply discouraged, whether you're Republicans, 03:32:24.200 --> 03:32:29.920 Democrats, independents, about a, not only a rigged economy, but a corrupt campaign 03:32:29.920 --> 03:32:33.440 finance system in which billionaires are buying elections. 03:32:33.440 --> 03:32:39.480 I think the candidates that I and other progressives are supporting are generating enormous grassroots 03:32:39.480 --> 03:32:41.480 excitement and enthusiasm. 03:32:41.480 --> 03:32:43.800 As you indicated, I was in Michigan, Minnesota. 03:32:43.800 --> 03:32:48.880 We had large rallies for SIAd and Peggy Flanagan. 03:32:48.880 --> 03:32:53.920 There is, as you know, though, concern within democratic circles that these inner-party 03:32:53.920 --> 03:33:01.080 primary fights are draining resources and sort of pulling away from what should be a unified 03:33:01.080 --> 03:33:02.580 message. 03:33:02.580 --> 03:33:05.400 Rahm Emanuel wrote in the Wall Street Journal, the Bernie- 03:33:05.400 --> 03:33:10.480 Yeah, this is bullshit. 03:33:10.480 --> 03:33:17.920 Because as I've said time and time again, there's a real simple solution to not draining 03:33:17.920 --> 03:33:25.000 these resources which is the run better campaigns that don't require the establishment to dump 03:33:25.000 --> 03:33:30.680 any resources whatsoever. Also look at Bernie smirking because he knows he's about to get 03:33:30.680 --> 03:33:38.520 a slam dunk off here. Perhaps no better person that they could have asked about to Bernie 03:33:38.520 --> 03:33:42.720 Sanders and Romfuckin' Emmanuel. Okay. 03:33:47.920 --> 03:34:03.600 Bernie and Somersby's is like the perfect foil to the politics that Rahm Emanuel represents. 03:34:03.600 --> 03:34:07.320 Rahm Emanuel is responsible for a lot of these failures. 03:34:07.320 --> 03:34:10.520 Bernie is responsible for this like new movement that's growing. 03:34:10.520 --> 03:34:15.520 But ultimately, as I was saying, when they complain about this stuff, when they stop 03:34:15.520 --> 03:34:17.900 different guys complain about this stuff like they're complaining they're they're 03:34:17.900 --> 03:34:22.380 crying to the referee right they're like oh you're forcing us to actually run 03:34:22.380 --> 03:34:24.900 campaigns 03:34:26.140 --> 03:34:35.220 you're forcing us to run campaigns how dare you how dare you force our record 03:34:35.220 --> 03:34:45.500 in a broad daylight how dare you make the voters choose a better option 03:34:45.520 --> 03:34:48.800 That's what they're complaining about. 03:34:51.280 --> 03:34:55.400 Because if you were capable of defending 03:34:55.400 --> 03:35:00.000 your seat because you've a great constituent services, 03:35:00.000 --> 03:35:02.720 that you're not like a style from cut out, 03:35:03.240 --> 03:35:05.740 then it would be impossible. 03:35:05.740 --> 03:35:07.860 If you were a diligent fundraiser on your own, 03:35:07.860 --> 03:35:09.880 it wouldn't be an issue. 03:35:09.880 --> 03:35:23.280 I don't think a democratic party should spend that much money or any money at all on defending 03:35:23.280 --> 03:35:24.680 these seats. 03:35:24.680 --> 03:35:32.840 If you're a fucking four-year incumbent or if you're a four-term incumbent, your seat 03:35:32.840 --> 03:35:37.080 should be impossible to take out. 03:35:37.080 --> 03:35:38.080 Okay? 03:35:38.080 --> 03:35:44.400 Okay? Unless there is tremendous outside money coming in, which is ironic because 03:35:46.240 --> 03:35:48.880 I don't remember the Democratic Party defending Cory Bush, 03:35:50.800 --> 03:35:53.600 nor do I remember them defending Jamal Bowman, 03:35:56.480 --> 03:35:58.960 nor do I remember them defending AOC, 03:35:58.960 --> 03:36:10.400 So why won't they treat the establishment Democrats in the same way? 03:36:10.400 --> 03:36:13.600 Those people had to fight for their own seats, some of them lost, because there was tremendous 03:36:13.600 --> 03:36:16.080 outside money. 03:36:16.080 --> 03:36:42.080 Okay. Do you understand? 03:36:42.080 --> 03:36:46.640 There have been attempts to unseat incumbent Democrats in the House of Representatives. 03:36:46.640 --> 03:36:51.160 I just gave you some prominent examples, many of which failed. 03:36:51.160 --> 03:36:53.560 They did not get help from the establishment. 03:36:53.560 --> 03:37:00.320 They did not get help from the coffers of the House of Representatives, the Democratic 03:37:00.320 --> 03:37:01.320 Party. 03:37:01.320 --> 03:37:08.920 They had to do that on their own. 03:37:08.920 --> 03:37:11.320 And there were those who lost because there was a tremendous... 03:37:11.320 --> 03:37:16.000 There was one redistricting that took place with Jamal Bowman and a tremendous amount 03:37:16.000 --> 03:37:19.240 of outside expenditures coming from APEC. 03:37:19.240 --> 03:37:23.520 And the same thing happened with Cory Bush, again, tens of millions of dollars coming 03:37:23.520 --> 03:37:25.160 from APEC. 03:37:25.160 --> 03:37:27.880 The Democrats did not defend them. 03:37:27.880 --> 03:37:34.280 They did not defend those incumbents. 03:37:34.280 --> 03:37:38.080 I'm sorry, wanting about popular grassroots candidates wasting APEC's resources the most 03:37:38.080 --> 03:37:39.680 spiritually Israeli shit. 03:37:39.680 --> 03:37:40.680 Yeah, exactly. 03:37:40.680 --> 03:37:42.120 Let's hear what Bernard had to say. 03:37:42.120 --> 03:37:45.320 He grows could spoil Democrats midterms. 03:37:45.320 --> 03:37:47.920 He said the DSA and others are saddling the party 03:37:47.920 --> 03:37:50.320 with nominees who, as he put it, 03:37:50.320 --> 03:37:54.000 wildly in popular positions will protect Republicans 03:37:54.000 --> 03:37:57.400 from having to pay the price of Donald Trump's corruption. 03:37:57.400 --> 03:37:59.520 Said it was the socialists who led the charge 03:37:59.520 --> 03:38:02.360 to defund the police, open borders, abolish prisons. 03:38:02.360 --> 03:38:05.000 He's saying those are losing messages 03:38:05.000 --> 03:38:07.600 that are going to hurt the party overall. 03:38:07.600 --> 03:38:09.080 How do you respond? 03:38:09.080 --> 03:38:11.960 That is what that is what Rahm Emanuel is saying. 03:38:13.200 --> 03:38:15.180 Who no doubt has the support of millions 03:38:15.180 --> 03:38:16.960 of working class people. 03:38:16.960 --> 03:38:21.760 Look, this is an argument, there's no debate. 03:38:21.760 --> 03:38:24.720 There is a strong division within the Democratic Party. 03:38:24.720 --> 03:38:27.640 You have an establishment like Rahm Emanuel 03:38:27.640 --> 03:38:32.280 who are dependent on billionaire campaign contributors 03:38:32.280 --> 03:38:34.680 who want to maintain the status quo. 03:38:34.680 --> 03:38:36.240 And then you have a progressive movement, 03:38:36.240 --> 03:38:38.560 which by the way, what is getting these guys' services, 03:38:38.560 --> 03:38:40.520 we are winning all over this country. 03:38:40.520 --> 03:38:42.520 It's suddenly Moundani in New York City, 03:38:42.520 --> 03:38:45.440 it's in New Jersey, it's in Ohio, it's in Colorado. 03:38:45.440 --> 03:38:49.120 People are sick and tired of the Rahm Emanuels 03:38:49.120 --> 03:38:50.880 and the Democratic establishment 03:38:50.880 --> 03:38:52.600 and the Republican establishment. 03:38:52.600 --> 03:38:55.000 They are asking simple questions, Margaret. 03:38:55.000 --> 03:38:58.100 Why in God's name are we the only major country on earth 03:38:58.100 --> 03:39:00.720 not to guarantee health care to all people 03:39:00.720 --> 03:39:01.760 as a human right? 03:39:01.760 --> 03:39:02.920 Pretty simple question. 03:39:02.920 --> 03:39:04.880 Canada does it, Europe does it, 03:39:04.880 --> 03:39:06.400 somehow we can't do it. 03:39:06.400 --> 03:39:07.760 Why do we have an economy 03:39:07.760 --> 03:39:09.720 which one man missed the mosque, 03:39:09.720 --> 03:39:13.360 owns more wealth than the bottom half of American society. 03:39:13.360 --> 03:39:15.860 Why did the economist tell us that in the richest country 03:39:15.860 --> 03:39:16.960 in the history of the world, 03:39:16.960 --> 03:39:19.240 our kids will likely have a lower standard 03:39:19.240 --> 03:39:21.240 of living than their parents. 03:39:21.240 --> 03:39:24.200 The American people are tired of a rigged economy, 03:39:24.200 --> 03:39:27.640 a corrupt campaign, finances, they want real change. 03:39:27.640 --> 03:39:30.480 They don't want Rahm Emanuel and the establishment 03:39:30.480 --> 03:39:32.640 maintaining the status quo. 03:39:32.640 --> 03:39:35.520 But in the meantime, I hear... 03:39:35.520 --> 03:39:42.360 cooked. I mean, this is the this is so perfect for Bernard. This is literally his his stump 03:39:42.360 --> 03:39:52.960 speech for 854 years now. So 854 years strong. Oh my god. Yes, bro. Yes, I've seen Bernard 03:39:52.960 --> 03:39:58.760 shooting fucking hoops. Okay, Jesus Christ here. All right, you got it. He still got 03:39:58.760 --> 03:40:03.040 it. Oh man, still got it. Okay, are you on the message that you think is resonating on 03:40:03.040 --> 03:40:08.760 the, you know, the tactical planning here. Do you think in the state of Michigan that 03:40:08.760 --> 03:40:14.320 you were just talking about with Abdul El Sayed, he's a public health official, he's 03:40:14.320 --> 03:40:19.520 a populist, but he's running against a moderate, Haley Stevens. Do you really think that in 03:40:19.520 --> 03:40:24.520 a state like Michigan, it's going to be a progressive Democrat who could beat a Republican 03:40:24.520 --> 03:40:30.160 in November? This was a state Trump narrowly won. 03:40:30.160 --> 03:40:36.600 I hate this argument, man. Yes, Trump won because he was anti-establishment. Michigan 03:40:36.600 --> 03:40:41.640 is not supposed to be a purple state. Michigan is a blue state, a deep blue fucking state. 03:40:41.640 --> 03:40:49.440 The problem is the Democratic Party is no longer deep blue. That's it. Or rather, what 03:40:49.440 --> 03:40:56.440 a lot of people in the media and what a lot of people in the Democratic Party are claiming 03:40:56.440 --> 03:41:03.640 is deep blue is actually associated with like some of the sillier things that people greatly 03:41:03.640 --> 03:41:10.280 exaggerate, right? Stuff that they're doing to the DSA platform right now. Oh, they want 03:41:10.280 --> 03:41:13.600 to make sure every cop goes to prison, blah, blah, blah, all this shit. Like, no, that's 03:41:13.600 --> 03:41:23.600 not the point, man. We want accountability. Okay. 03:41:23.600 --> 03:41:29.360 If you run a left populist candidacy in Michigan, you're going to do incredible numbers. 03:41:29.360 --> 03:41:30.920 And Abdul is going to prove that. 03:41:30.920 --> 03:41:36.640 He is going to show the rest of the country that Michigan is not a fucking purple state. 03:41:36.640 --> 03:41:38.800 It's not a swing state. 03:41:38.800 --> 03:41:44.480 Michigan is a stronghold for left-flank populists. 03:41:44.480 --> 03:41:47.000 But what kind of left-flank populism? 03:41:47.000 --> 03:41:52.000 What kind of left-flank politics are we talking about? 03:41:52.000 --> 03:41:55.800 Is it better things are not possible, incremental change? 03:41:55.800 --> 03:42:03.320 Or is it broad sweeping radical agenda items that are not so radical to the average person 03:42:03.320 --> 03:42:09.720 of the working class folks, Medicare for all, ending our endless militarism overseas? 03:42:09.720 --> 03:42:11.360 These are not radical ideas. 03:42:11.360 --> 03:42:12.360 They are radical in DC. 03:42:12.360 --> 03:42:16.760 They are not radical in Michigan. 03:42:16.760 --> 03:42:17.080 That's it. 03:42:22.000 --> 03:42:31.000 This is from the beginning of July. They wrote about me and Abdul. 03:42:31.000 --> 03:42:36.000 Absolutely. Whether it's Michigan, Minnesota, Vermont, or any place else in this country. 03:42:36.000 --> 03:42:37.000 The point I'm trying to make, Margaret. 03:42:37.000 --> 03:42:39.000 You say Wisconsin, Burndog. 03:42:45.000 --> 03:42:51.000 And the polling indicates this. The people are sick and tired of the status quo. 03:42:51.000 --> 03:42:54.480 Quo, we are the richest country in the history of the world. 03:42:54.480 --> 03:42:58.320 We should have the highest standard of living for all of our people, not massive income 03:42:58.320 --> 03:42:59.760 and wealth inequality. 03:42:59.760 --> 03:43:05.120 And by the way, we should not be continuing to get involved in genocidal wars with Israel 03:43:05.120 --> 03:43:09.820 in Gaza or getting involved in the destruction of Lebanon. 03:43:09.820 --> 03:43:15.500 People want change in foreign policy and in domestic policy, the status quo is not working. 03:43:15.500 --> 03:43:18.960 But for Republicans, we're looking at this, they're saying that's great. 03:43:18.960 --> 03:43:23.800 Is Bernie going to tell his supporters not to show up, for example, if Haley Stevens 03:43:23.800 --> 03:43:25.440 wins out in Michigan? 03:43:25.440 --> 03:43:27.720 Or will you say it's not? 03:43:27.720 --> 03:43:30.720 Oh my God, I'm Brian kill me. 03:43:30.720 --> 03:43:32.040 I'm Brian kill me. 03:43:32.040 --> 03:43:34.440 I'm Brian kill me. 03:43:34.440 --> 03:43:35.520 I'm Brian kill me. 03:43:35.520 --> 03:43:36.640 I'm Brian kill me. 03:43:36.640 --> 03:43:37.800 I'm Brian kill me. 03:43:37.800 --> 03:43:39.280 It's literally the same meta. 03:43:39.280 --> 03:43:40.840 It's 2016 permanently. 03:43:40.840 --> 03:43:43.320 It's permanently 2016. 03:43:43.320 --> 03:43:45.400 It'll never be a different year. 03:43:45.400 --> 03:43:51.700 16 politics, Bernie Bro politics will forever follow all of us around. 03:43:51.800 --> 03:43:55.300 It is so fucking unbearable. 03:43:55.300 --> 03:43:56.500 Dude, I hate it. 03:43:57.200 --> 03:43:58.500 I despise it. 03:43:58.500 --> 03:44:02.100 I hate it with every fiber of my being, folks. 03:44:03.500 --> 03:44:06.000 It is un-fucking-bearable. 03:44:06.000 --> 03:44:08.100 Oh, will you support Haley Stevens? 03:44:08.100 --> 03:44:10.600 Like, what is this conversation? 03:44:10.800 --> 03:44:12.600 What is this conversation right now? 03:44:12.600 --> 03:44:14.800 Why are we having this conversation right now? 03:44:15.400 --> 03:44:17.400 What is the necessity? 03:44:18.200 --> 03:44:21.800 Why change your work twice? Yeah, I know I know it did 03:44:24.000 --> 03:44:27.440 Except this time Bernie has the backing of the public so he can turn around and say yeah 03:44:27.440 --> 03:44:30.180 This conversation is exactly why Michigan was lost twice 03:44:30.720 --> 03:44:37.760 Both to Hillary Rodham Clinton and then to Kamala Harris. We can't repeat the same mistake 03:44:45.400 --> 03:44:50.040 Haley Stevens promoting George will is a good window into Howard campaign is basically amalgam. 03:44:50.040 --> 03:44:53.320 I've never Trump Republicans like will very pragmatic Republicans a pack and the soon 03:44:53.320 --> 03:44:56.240 to be the Democratic Party left me for a Sompiker Republicans. 03:44:56.240 --> 03:44:57.240 Yeah. 03:44:57.240 --> 03:45:04.560 Gretchen Wimmer and Gary Peters are now soon to be Republicans. 03:45:04.560 --> 03:45:09.240 They're soon to be civilians looking for the next down payment on a lakehouse. 03:45:09.240 --> 03:45:10.960 True. 03:45:10.960 --> 03:45:16.240 In the end, the Democrats have to unify. 03:45:16.240 --> 03:45:20.760 Margaret, the Republicans, and maybe it's the Republican establishment, maybe it's 03:45:20.760 --> 03:45:23.320 the billionaires who own the Republican Party. 03:45:23.320 --> 03:45:25.880 Your working class Republicans are not going to say that. 03:45:25.880 --> 03:45:27.640 They can't afford to pay for health care. 03:45:27.640 --> 03:45:30.000 They can't afford to send their kids to the college. 03:45:30.000 --> 03:45:32.080 They can't afford decent retimes. 03:45:32.080 --> 03:45:36.400 And more than a few of them, by the way, will be voting for Peggy Flanagan in Minnesota 03:45:36.400 --> 03:45:39.960 and Abdul in Michigan. 03:45:39.960 --> 03:45:41.960 You talked about the cost of living. 03:45:41.960 --> 03:45:46.960 When we look at polling, it's healthcare costs that are the public's top economic worry, 03:45:46.960 --> 03:45:49.280 according to KFF. 03:45:49.280 --> 03:45:53.960 Out in Vermont, you've got the most expensive ACA premiums in the entire country. 03:45:53.960 --> 03:46:00.160 I'm hearing from Republican senators now that they want to make changes to healthcare. 03:46:00.160 --> 03:46:11.160 Gretchen Whitmer is personally antagonistic towards non-paywalled health care. She is 03:46:11.160 --> 03:46:18.160 the daughter of a big health care executive. That's part of the reason why she endorsed 03:46:18.160 --> 03:46:23.160 Abdull El-Sahed's opponent Haley Stevens. Gretchen Whitmer is also very clearly trying 03:46:23.160 --> 03:46:29.840 to farm as much corporate goodwill as she possibly can, as we've seen her go out to 03:46:29.840 --> 03:46:34.880 bat for data centers. 03:46:34.880 --> 03:46:44.160 And yes, she is still a fairly popular governor, but I don't think she is so popular that she 03:46:44.160 --> 03:46:49.000 will dramatically alter the trajectory of this race. 03:46:49.000 --> 03:46:58.440 But the fact that Gretchen Whitmer is still going out the bat in this regard shows me 03:46:58.440 --> 03:47:00.400 that the establishment is scared. 03:47:00.400 --> 03:47:04.480 She ended a governor's race for the express purpose of running against Abdullah as I told 03:47:04.480 --> 03:47:06.400 everyone they were inexplicably hyping her up. 03:47:06.400 --> 03:47:09.360 Yeah, Whitmer is the daughter of her former longtime CEO of health insurance giant Blue 03:47:09.360 --> 03:47:12.320 Cross, and she's been bankrolled by Blue Cross. 03:47:12.320 --> 03:47:15.360 Her endorsement against a pro medicare for Al-Qaeda, Abdullah Sayed, is extremely on-brand. 03:47:15.360 --> 03:47:17.400 This is corporate power trying to protect its power. 03:47:17.400 --> 03:47:20.880 I will say this though, I will say this. 03:47:20.880 --> 03:47:25.220 I think Gresham Whitmer a couple years ago would have been a devastating force in Michigan 03:47:25.220 --> 03:47:29.920 politics to reckon with because she was objectively popular. 03:47:29.920 --> 03:47:34.080 I think the Trump stuff greatly diminished her credibility. 03:47:34.080 --> 03:47:35.960 That's number one and number two. 03:47:35.960 --> 03:47:42.920 You know, the whole Trump debacle greatly diminished her credibility with her base. 03:47:42.920 --> 03:47:44.480 And the second thing is the data center. 03:47:44.480 --> 03:47:47.600 She is in the pocket of big corporate spenders. 03:47:47.600 --> 03:47:50.840 She is allowing data centers to be built in the state. 03:47:50.840 --> 03:47:53.880 People fucking despise these goddamn data centers. 03:47:53.880 --> 03:48:00.280 So that's something to consider. 03:48:00.280 --> 03:48:01.600 Here's another great take. 03:48:01.600 --> 03:48:06.000 Josh Spear is much more popular than Whitmer in his state and his endorsement against Rab 03:48:06.000 --> 03:48:07.960 didn't go anywhere. 03:48:07.960 --> 03:48:14.960 uh... i don't think josh bird made a big show of his endorsement 03:48:18.420 --> 03:48:25.420 the josh bird endorse against uh... chris rap 03:48:25.720 --> 03:48:29.560 i might be misremembering 03:48:29.560 --> 03:48:36.560 i think he leaned 03:48:37.960 --> 03:48:46.780 He might have, he might have like leaned into, yeah, he angled behind the scenes for Sharif 03:48:46.780 --> 03:48:47.780 Street. 03:48:47.780 --> 03:48:54.640 But I don't think he came out with a full, full throat endorsement. 03:48:54.640 --> 03:49:02.760 There's a difference there. 03:49:02.760 --> 03:49:21.640 Of course, as far as the Haley Stevens endorsement of Gretchen Whitmer endorsement of Haley Stevens, 03:49:21.640 --> 03:49:23.640 Does anyone know if this is real? 03:49:23.640 --> 03:49:25.640 What is this? 03:49:51.640 --> 03:50:08.700 I mean this looks like a promo for Democrats but also at the same time if Trump comes out 03:50:08.700 --> 03:50:14.780 strongly for data centers I think a lot of the dumb fuck Republican cultists will probably 03:50:14.780 --> 03:50:17.300 also run with that. 03:50:17.300 --> 03:50:21.700 Yeah, here going back to Gresham Whitmer here is the hot mic moment 03:50:24.100 --> 03:50:29.300 Governor Whitmer with Oracle CEO Clay McGorrick talking about data centers 03:50:37.060 --> 03:50:41.280 Yeah, she says we're used to people saying no and doing it anyway ha ha ha ha 03:50:47.300 --> 03:50:57.900 We used to call Kevin Rudd Kevin 747 because he was always on a plane probably to China 03:50:57.900 --> 03:50:59.900 finding NIMFO. 03:50:59.900 --> 03:51:02.500 Yeah, Kevin Rudd. 03:51:02.500 --> 03:51:03.500 He's got a great tag. 03:51:03.500 --> 03:51:05.900 He's got a great tag on China. 03:51:05.900 --> 03:51:09.100 His growing behemoth. 03:51:09.100 --> 03:51:11.220 The growing dragon. 03:51:11.220 --> 03:51:15.700 I have the global manufacturing giant China. 03:51:15.700 --> 03:51:24.140 in my life, learning about China, and it's time, it's time to put that knowledge to 03:51:24.140 --> 03:51:33.380 task. I'd like to get Kevin Rudd on the stream. How many people do you know? After they were 03:51:33.380 --> 03:51:40.720 Prime Minister, they went back. After they were Prime Minister, they went back and land 03:51:40.720 --> 03:51:55.520 further, went to Oxford, Oxford Uni mate, and decided, decided to study further, learn 03:51:55.520 --> 03:52:08.760 more about China, give in Rud, thought to himself, look, these guys are building a lot 03:52:08.760 --> 03:52:25.800 of bridges built in a lot of hospital rail. I need to learn more about how they did it. 03:52:25.800 --> 03:52:32.800 I'm going to die please not the Aussie accent why not. Wait till he has a book release 03:52:32.800 --> 03:52:36.200 He'll come on a stream, the flow goes whaz. 03:52:36.200 --> 03:52:37.200 Yeah. 03:52:37.200 --> 03:52:38.200 Tugid. 03:52:38.200 --> 03:52:42.700 Very Tugid stuff. 03:52:42.700 --> 03:52:47.020 You have everything so many and you want to be put to sleep, you should read different 03:52:47.020 --> 03:52:53.600 chapters in my book about Chano. 03:52:53.600 --> 03:53:04.600 You sound like a New Zealander, I know, but to Americans this sounds great. 03:53:09.600 --> 03:53:13.600 You're making Kivin sound like a yogle? True. Like a gemmon? 03:53:13.600 --> 03:53:23.040 Well I always slays off and drinks a fucking VB long nag in the morning and one of the 03:53:23.040 --> 03:53:27.280 afternoon spot on. 03:53:27.280 --> 03:53:41.800 He sounds a lot like a bogan not a gemman sorry a bogan a fucking bogan. 03:53:41.800 --> 03:53:58.160 much longer. I don't know. Go high pitch, you don't sound Maori? Yeah. Anyway, but yeah, 03:53:58.160 --> 03:54:00.920 that's Gretchen Wimmer. She's a corporate student herself. 03:54:00.920 --> 03:54:06.000 Two, your chair on the health committee. You have been championing change. Why aren't 03:54:06.000 --> 03:54:11.400 we seeing any traction in Congress if this is the number one issue? Why can't you guys 03:54:11.400 --> 03:54:13.080 work on a bipartisan basis here. 03:54:13.080 --> 03:54:18.520 Margaret, that is a great, great question. 03:54:18.520 --> 03:54:20.320 And I have to tell you, the answer 03:54:20.320 --> 03:54:24.360 has everything to do with money and politics, 03:54:24.360 --> 03:54:26.760 that the function of the current health care system 03:54:26.760 --> 03:54:29.520 is not to do what other countries are doing around the world, 03:54:29.520 --> 03:54:31.400 guaranteeing health care, quality health care 03:54:31.400 --> 03:54:33.680 to all of our people as a human right. 03:54:33.680 --> 03:54:36.400 The function of the current American health care system 03:54:36.400 --> 03:54:38.440 is to make billions of dollars in profits 03:54:38.440 --> 03:54:40.800 from the insurance companies and the drug companies. 03:54:40.800 --> 03:54:43.680 and they are spending huge amounts in campaigns, 03:54:43.680 --> 03:54:47.740 huge contributions to make sure that that happens. 03:54:47.740 --> 03:54:50.520 So when we talk about a political revolution, 03:54:50.520 --> 03:54:52.320 when we talk about a grassroots movement, 03:54:52.320 --> 03:54:53.740 one of the things we're talking about 03:54:53.740 --> 03:54:56.400 is we have got to join every other major country 03:54:56.400 --> 03:54:59.480 through a Medicare for all single payer program. 03:54:59.480 --> 03:55:01.720 Is there a single payer program in this country 03:55:01.720 --> 03:55:03.120 that you think actually worked? 03:55:03.120 --> 03:55:06.440 I mean, Vermont struggled with it when your state tried it. 03:55:06.440 --> 03:55:08.040 Is there a model for what you're talking about? 03:55:08.040 --> 03:55:11.520 No, Vermont, no, there is not. 03:55:11.520 --> 03:55:14.880 But 50 miles north of where I am talking to you right now, 03:55:14.880 --> 03:55:18.600 they are spending half as much per capita as we spend, 03:55:18.600 --> 03:55:20.840 and somehow or another, they manage to guarantee 03:55:20.840 --> 03:55:23.360 health care to every man, woman, and child in that country. 03:55:23.360 --> 03:55:24.640 You go to the hospital for a month, 03:55:24.640 --> 03:55:26.400 you come out, there is no bill. 03:55:26.400 --> 03:55:27.680 Is it a perfect system? 03:55:27.680 --> 03:55:30.280 No, but we are the only major country 03:55:30.280 --> 03:55:32.320 that does not guarantee health care to all people. 03:55:32.320 --> 03:55:34.400 That is what we've got to do. 03:55:34.400 --> 03:55:37.480 You are the ranking member on the health committee. 03:55:37.480 --> 03:55:40.900 The CDC has been without a Senate-confirmed leader 03:55:40.900 --> 03:55:42.900 at now for nearly 11 months. 03:55:42.900 --> 03:55:46.580 The FDA doesn't have a chief going on two months now. 03:55:46.580 --> 03:55:48.340 There's no surge in general. 03:55:48.340 --> 03:55:50.740 Under questioning, Dr. Erica Schwartz, 03:55:50.740 --> 03:55:53.780 President Trump's nominee, was repeatedly 03:55:53.780 --> 03:55:56.540 asked if she would resist political pressure. 03:55:56.540 --> 03:55:59.340 I know her answers did not win your vote. 03:55:59.340 --> 03:56:02.100 But do you think that she even has enough support 03:56:02.100 --> 03:56:05.540 to make it out of committee and ultimately to get confirmed? 03:56:07.480 --> 03:56:13.480 Look, I like to personally, I mean she has a very strong background in public health and the military. 03:56:13.480 --> 03:56:16.480 She's an attorney as well, very impressive resume. 03:56:16.480 --> 03:56:22.480 But when you're dealing with the Health and Human Services Department agency, 03:56:22.480 --> 03:56:28.480 the issue is whether people will stand up to Bobby Kennedy, Secretary Kennedy, 03:56:28.480 --> 03:56:30.480 in his conspiracy theories regarding- 03:56:30.480 --> 03:56:33.480 Do you hear Zoran praised Mao? 03:56:33.480 --> 03:56:43.040 Zorn didn't take too well to what you saying Lkai why Lee oh Lee was more rather than check 03:56:43.040 --> 03:56:51.120 my logs way he did not praise Mal dude Zorn I'm not he would never fucking praise Mal 03:56:51.120 --> 03:57:00.160 are you kidding me that's so funny at most he would do like he would he would do maybe 03:57:00.160 --> 03:57:05.520 a subtle nod and then the entirety of the media would go crazy over a check check pfp 03:57:06.960 --> 03:57:13.680 no oh sure why not 03:57:18.400 --> 03:57:25.120 yeah he'll quote gromshi and people go crazy over and vaccines etc etc uh she did not impress me 03:57:25.120 --> 03:57:29.400 somebody who in fact would do that. You don't think she will ultimately make it 03:57:29.400 --> 03:57:34.400 through? I don't know that she will or not. She may gain Republicans what I 03:57:34.400 --> 03:57:40.360 will for her. You do have bipartisan support from the Maha caucus for a bill 03:57:40.360 --> 03:57:44.680 to require warning labels for ultra-processed foods and to try to 03:57:44.680 --> 03:57:48.560 restrict marketing to kids. Doesn't the FDA kind of already do that with all the 03:57:48.560 --> 03:57:52.760 disclosures on packaging that tell you the ingredients? I mean nowhere near 03:57:52.760 --> 03:57:57.800 enough, you know, nowhere near enough. Look, we have a problem, a really serious 03:57:57.800 --> 03:58:02.960 crisis in this country in terms of obesity. I think one out of five, five 03:58:02.960 --> 03:58:09.480 children in America is obese and that translates into diabetes, which is, as 03:58:09.480 --> 03:58:14.680 you know, just a terrible illness impacting our country and very expensive 03:58:14.680 --> 03:58:18.720 to deal with. We're spending about $400 billion a year dealing with diabetes. 03:58:18.720 --> 03:58:22.080 So what I want to say, and I think a lot of people want to see is strong 03:58:22.600 --> 03:58:26.480 Labeling you know so if a mom goes through a grocery store and the kid says hey 03:58:26.480 --> 03:58:32.400 I want that Coca-Cola understand that a 20 ounce bottle of Coca-Cola has 15 03:58:32.840 --> 03:58:37.600 teaspoons of sugar in it bad stuff, and it's not just coke obviously 03:58:37.600 --> 03:58:41.000 It's all these sweetened drinks and what kinds of processed foods 03:58:41.040 --> 03:58:45.400 So what we are trying to do is a have strong labeling and be banned 03:58:45.400 --> 03:58:50.300 and TV advertising of junk food, the kids. 03:58:50.300 --> 03:58:52.440 Well, you do have some Republican support for it. 03:58:52.440 --> 03:58:54.120 We'll keep an eye on it. 03:58:54.120 --> 03:58:56.920 Senator Sanders, thank you for your time this morning. 03:58:56.920 --> 03:59:01.080 All right. 03:59:01.080 --> 03:59:02.600 Now we're getting to Michigan. 03:59:02.600 --> 03:59:04.000 We're putting our crosshairs. 03:59:04.000 --> 03:59:09.000 We're setting our sights on Michigan, a pivotal race 03:59:09.240 --> 03:59:11.840 that will most likely define 2028, 03:59:11.840 --> 03:59:13.400 the future of the Democratic Party 03:59:13.400 --> 03:59:16.440 and perhaps the future of American democracy. 03:59:16.440 --> 03:59:18.440 That's right, the stakes are unbelievably high, 03:59:18.440 --> 03:59:20.240 which is precisely the reason why CNN 03:59:20.240 --> 03:59:24.200 is sending their best guy, John King. 03:59:24.200 --> 03:59:25.040 Okay? 03:59:26.440 --> 03:59:29.280 CNN is sending John King down there 03:59:30.280 --> 03:59:33.240 to take the suit off, roll up his sleeves, 03:59:33.240 --> 03:59:37.240 and to find out what's going on in the state of Michigan. 03:59:37.240 --> 03:59:38.960 You're a truck humor, damn, I don't think it's... 03:59:38.960 --> 03:59:41.560 We don't need lip service. 03:59:41.560 --> 03:59:43.820 Look, I'm not a celebrity candidate. 03:59:43.820 --> 03:59:47.020 Alcide versus Stevens and so much more. 03:59:47.020 --> 03:59:48.020 I was trying to. 03:59:48.020 --> 03:59:52.960 I'm going to be honest, I fucking despise the the yokel schtick that Haley Stevens does. 03:59:53.660 --> 03:59:54.920 OK, I'll say it. 03:59:54.920 --> 03:59:56.620 I've been saying it already. 03:59:56.620 --> 03:59:59.060 I need people to see what I'm seeing. 03:59:59.060 --> 04:00:04.080 Every time she does the hammed up like, this is this is how I talk. 04:00:04.080 --> 04:00:06.280 This is how Michiganders talk. 04:00:06.880 --> 04:00:09.060 She's tuning it up. 04:00:09.060 --> 04:00:10.020 She's tuning it up. 04:00:10.020 --> 04:00:16.820 I was at first, before the wave, I had said she was growing on me. Okay. The accent was 04:00:16.820 --> 04:00:21.700 growing on me. Now I see it as something entirely different. I see it as something unbelievably 04:00:21.700 --> 04:00:28.020 indecent because I realize that I too was duped a little bit by the character. Okay. 04:00:28.660 --> 04:00:34.020 It's the George W. Bush method. George W. Bush is not as much of a yokel as you would think he is, 04:00:34.020 --> 04:00:39.620 but he always presented himself as such. It's a facade. It's very disingenuous. Her politics 04:00:39.620 --> 04:00:44.900 are no different than the likes of JD Vance. Her politics are no different than the classic 04:00:44.900 --> 04:00:54.660 corporate Democrat, a bicoastal elite, okay? But she tries to tune up her frequency to make it seem 04:00:54.660 --> 04:01:00.740 like, oh, everyone's actually criticizing me because I'm from Michigan. I'm from Michigan. I love 04:01:00.740 --> 04:01:08.340 Michigan. Oh, I'm just a local donch on all. Okay. That's what she does. Okay. And under that veneer, 04:01:08.340 --> 04:01:18.680 under that Yockel veneer, the lovable, Michigander veneer, lies the most toxic, the most repulsive 04:01:18.680 --> 04:01:22.940 version of American politics, one that places corporate interests above the interests of 04:01:22.940 --> 04:01:31.080 the working class, one that has lost the state of Michigan twice to a fascist. Okay? I don't 04:01:31.080 --> 04:01:35.880 like the shtick at all 04:01:35.880 --> 04:01:40.680 here's a moment where she really leans into it like oh i'm just a yoko 04:01:40.680 --> 04:01:43.600 all of these gold kids on the internet 04:01:43.600 --> 04:01:48.000 don't you know these are by cost of the leaders don't you know 04:01:48.000 --> 04:01:49.600 i'm so glad 04:01:49.600 --> 04:01:54.520 that the democrats have their own fucking sarah palin 04:01:54.520 --> 04:01:59.520 okay some of you have seen you know there's those cool kids on the internet 04:01:59.520 --> 04:02:08.000 they're doing the cool kid chatter some of them might be the coastal elites 04:02:08.000 --> 04:02:15.640 oh they're just attacking me don't you know I just want regular folks look at 04:02:15.640 --> 04:02:26.360 me I'm wearing my jean jacket oh oh oh I'm just a Michigander through and through 04:02:26.360 --> 04:02:32.680 Devoid of policy, utterly devoid of policy, utterly devoid of a vision of the affirmative, 04:02:32.680 --> 04:02:38.240 utterly devoid of what she is going to change about the way things are going in Michigan 04:02:38.240 --> 04:02:42.440 and for Michiganders and also at the federal level, because the Senate is a federal position 04:02:42.440 --> 04:02:43.960 regardless. 04:02:43.960 --> 04:02:46.600 It's all phony bullshit. 04:02:46.600 --> 04:02:51.000 And the faster we identify this, the easier things will be. 04:02:51.000 --> 04:02:53.680 We got 10 days remaining, okay? 04:02:53.680 --> 04:03:00.480 We'll have a lot of time. 04:03:00.480 --> 04:03:03.980 Funna how I talk. 04:03:03.980 --> 04:03:06.980 Not okay. 04:03:06.980 --> 04:03:09.480 Not okay. 04:03:09.480 --> 04:03:10.480 Says my governor. 04:03:10.480 --> 04:03:13.480 But let's be real. 04:03:13.480 --> 04:03:16.280 They're making fun of Michigan. 04:03:16.280 --> 04:03:20.280 They're making fun of yous. 04:03:20.280 --> 04:03:23.180 We all talk like this. 04:03:23.180 --> 04:03:29.620 The amount of people that I have in my community from Michigan that have been losing their fucking minds about how 04:03:30.060 --> 04:03:37.900 Her uber accent doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever for the Rochester neighborhood that she comes from has been unbelievable 04:03:38.980 --> 04:03:40.260 Okay 04:03:40.260 --> 04:03:42.260 Yeah 04:03:42.260 --> 04:03:43.540 Okay 04:03:43.540 --> 04:03:46.980 It's not okay. Don't you know? 04:03:47.820 --> 04:03:49.820 This is how we all sound 04:03:49.820 --> 04:04:03.140 All right, I'm a leprechaun now I'm Michigan leprechaun. This is how we speak in the Midwest 04:04:03.140 --> 04:04:18.260 all right. Oh, you, you buy costs and they just don't know how we sound. Me lucky charms 04:04:19.220 --> 04:04:20.260 top of the morning. 04:04:20.260 --> 04:04:34.420 They're thinking they're better than us, and what they don't know is I am your voice. 04:04:34.420 --> 04:04:42.940 And their jokes and their criticism only makes me fight harder. 04:04:42.940 --> 04:05:00.820 I'm a you per even though I'm from Rochester I'll never tell you about my politics you 04:05:00.820 --> 04:05:09.900 won't hear about it don't ask me a question about Israel which Israel comes to me in my 04:05:09.900 --> 04:05:11.980 My dreams. That's right. Some of you. 04:05:21.740 --> 04:05:27.340 Anti-establishment is exactly what we need right now. I'm very frightened by what I. As a Michigan person, 04:05:27.340 --> 04:05:31.420 I know several upper, uh, seven people from upper and they hate it the most. We can't tell if, 04:05:32.220 --> 04:05:37.740 tell it's that fake down south. They can. To them, it's like, if you were trying to do your 04:05:37.740 --> 04:05:45.980 Scottish and Scotland, that bad? Yeah. I'm a Uber and I pray I don't sound like that. 04:05:45.980 --> 04:05:53.620 Wow, go have a pasty. I mean, the, the Uper say she doesn't sound like them and people 04:05:53.620 --> 04:06:02.100 from her neighborhood say she definitely doesn't sound like that. But ultimately, every conversation 04:06:02.100 --> 04:06:07.220 that we're having about her accent is a conversation that we're not having about her, her financial 04:06:07.220 --> 04:06:16.700 backers, APEC, DTE. And yes, she is actually savvy. She's a lot more savvy than we give 04:06:16.700 --> 04:06:20.900 her credit. It's odd that the establishment could throw tons and tons of money to try 04:06:20.900 --> 04:06:24.660 to buy elections, but can't find better cans to enter Cuomo and Healey Stevens. Elliott 04:06:24.660 --> 04:06:29.500 says something like, no man without convictions can write good pros. And that may have something 04:06:29.500 --> 04:06:32.980 to do with this problem. The right has convictions, often loopy ones, but their convictions, the 04:06:32.980 --> 04:06:40.020 center, not a, yeah. Yeah. The reason why they can't find good candidates other than 04:06:40.020 --> 04:06:45.340 like Andrew Cuomo or Haley Stevens is because most people that are willing to take the bag 04:06:45.340 --> 04:06:51.100 like that, they are going to be unbelievably uncharismatic. They're going to be the ones 04:06:51.100 --> 04:06:57.660 who need that bag to get into a position of power. They can't win it on their own merits. 04:06:57.660 --> 04:06:59.660 Okay, that's it 04:07:04.980 --> 04:07:09.140 Yeah, Haley Stevens seems to be Matt thus clocks her ass by the way 04:07:09.140 --> 04:07:14.020 I guess the cool kids on the internet versus the cool out of state billionaires propping up her campaign 04:07:14.140 --> 04:07:17.220 Haley Stevens seems to be taking a page from Republican Senator John Kennedy 04:07:17.220 --> 04:07:22.940 Dramatically paying up folksy regional accent to appear more populist instead of having actual populist policy ideas 04:07:27.660 --> 04:07:36.860 The problem for Hailey Stevens also is what happens when A-PAC no longer funds her candidacy. 04:07:36.860 --> 04:07:39.900 Because from the position of A-PAC, there's no difference to Mike Rogers. As a matter 04:07:39.900 --> 04:07:43.260 of fact, Mike Rogers might even be seen as a more reliable vote, more reliable pro-Israel 04:07:43.260 --> 04:07:44.900 vote than Hailey Stevens. 04:07:44.900 --> 04:07:48.880 So what happens when A-PAC goes, yeah, we're not going to fucking spend the same amount 04:07:48.880 --> 04:07:53.180 of money to make sure that the Democrat wins here? The Democratic Party is already turning 04:07:53.180 --> 04:08:01.860 on us. What then? Because she's gotten $54 to $60 million in outside expenditures so 04:08:01.860 --> 04:08:08.620 far from a litany of different corporations and from APAC. APAC is responsible for $34 04:08:08.620 --> 04:08:16.440 million of that. Okay. More than half. What happens when APAC no longer funds her candidacy 04:08:16.440 --> 04:08:22.460 if she wins the primary? God forbid. What then? Is she going to carry the Yopra accent 04:08:22.460 --> 04:08:30.380 against Mike Rogers. Is that what's going to work? Yeah, she'll stand around and go, 04:08:30.380 --> 04:08:39.580 what gives? Especially at that point, many people who already were discouraged by the 04:08:39.580 --> 04:08:43.380 Israel influence in the previous election are probably going to feel discouraged once 04:08:43.380 --> 04:08:47.580 again. It's cooked. It's cooked. 04:08:47.580 --> 04:08:59.820 I see going on in the Democratic Party, a Democratic family feud, you can't keep going in the same direction if you keep losing a must win sentencing and a big battleground state. 04:09:00.900 --> 04:09:13.820 It's a valid argument, but it will not help Abdul win the primary. First of all, Abdul will win the primary on his ground game on his integrity and most importantly, on his policies. Okay. 04:09:13.820 --> 04:09:17.420 That's how Abdul is gonna win the primary. 04:09:17.420 --> 04:09:22.940 But the reason why I'm bringing this aspect up is because the tool that the Democrat has, 04:09:22.940 --> 04:09:28.500 the tool that the Democrats have at their disposal that they weaponize against the left is always 04:09:28.500 --> 04:09:30.000 electability. 04:09:30.000 --> 04:09:34.980 My argument is, when I bring up electability, I'm not bringing up electability because I 04:09:34.980 --> 04:09:37.500 think it's like the most important concept. 04:09:37.500 --> 04:09:39.900 I already know Abdul's electable. 04:09:39.900 --> 04:09:45.180 The reason why I'm bringing up electability is because it neutralizes the commentary from 04:09:45.180 --> 04:09:50.420 the near attendants of the world, the center-right forces within the Democratic Party that constantly 04:09:50.420 --> 04:09:53.600 say, Abdul's not electable, Abdul's not electable, Abdul's not electable. 04:09:53.600 --> 04:09:55.100 It's fucking bullshit. 04:09:55.100 --> 04:09:56.100 Okay? 04:09:56.100 --> 04:10:03.520 It is Haley Stevens who is not electable, and I need everyone to know that. 04:10:03.520 --> 04:10:05.240 Which of the two candidates is not electable? 04:10:05.240 --> 04:10:11.620 the one that actually gets small-dollar donations, or the one whose candidacy is entirely propped 04:10:11.620 --> 04:10:18.360 up by every fucking corporate entity in the country. 04:10:18.360 --> 04:10:31.240 If Hailey Stevens was electable, she would not need $54 million with a zero-ground game. 04:10:31.240 --> 04:10:43.280 If Haley Stevens was electable, Gary Peters wouldn't have had to come in in the last second. 04:10:43.280 --> 04:10:48.280 Gretchen Whitmer wouldn't have had to come in and endorse her in the last second. 04:10:48.280 --> 04:10:50.600 Keep your eyes on the prize, folks. 04:10:50.600 --> 04:10:56.320 Haley Stevens and Common Parliance is an industry plant, okay? 04:10:56.320 --> 04:10:59.360 She is an industry plant style candidate. 04:10:59.360 --> 04:11:00.520 She has no real value. 04:11:00.520 --> 04:11:04.680 She has no moral conviction. She will never place Michiganders nor the working class at 04:11:04.680 --> 04:11:09.720 the heart of her politics. She has bought and sold a corporate stooge through and through 04:11:09.720 --> 04:11:20.360 what is perhaps the worst element of the modern democratic party. Okay. She's goddamn sellout. 04:11:20.360 --> 04:11:28.000 So she can, uh, base booster her Yokel shtick till the cows come home. Okay. But at the 04:11:28.000 --> 04:11:34.400 The end of the day, she is a puppet, puppeteered by corporate donations. 04:11:34.400 --> 04:11:38.400 That's number one. 04:11:38.400 --> 04:11:44.540 Number two. 04:11:44.540 --> 04:11:51.360 Haley Stevens has a much tougher shot at defeating Mike Rogers. 04:11:51.360 --> 04:11:57.120 Do I believe in my heart of hearts that Haley Stevens could probably also defeat Mike Rogers? 04:11:57.120 --> 04:12:04.120 Yes, I do. But the margins of victory for Abdu'l-al-Sayed will be far greater than Hailey Stevens. 04:12:04.120 --> 04:12:12.120 Because Abdu'l-al-Sayed has the fundamentals. He has the on-the-ground enthusiasm. 04:12:12.120 --> 04:12:18.120 And there is already plenty of evidence to suggest this. 04:12:18.120 --> 04:12:23.120 That's why these pivotal endorsements are coming in at the last second. 04:12:23.120 --> 04:12:29.120 from people who said they would not even endorse against any of the candidacies. 04:12:29.120 --> 04:12:33.120 The reason why they're doing that is not because Abdul is likely to lose. 04:12:33.120 --> 04:12:40.120 The reason why they're doing that is because they're terrified of Abdul winning, okay? 04:12:40.120 --> 04:12:44.120 They're terrified of having a strong advocate for the working class in the Senate. 04:12:44.120 --> 04:12:47.120 That's it. There's no other reason. 04:12:47.120 --> 04:12:51.120 Same with Zoran Mamdani. They were not fearful of Zoran Mamdani's inevitable defeat 04:12:51.120 --> 04:12:57.760 or his inevitable failure if he won the mayoral race and became a bad governor or a bad mayor 04:12:59.440 --> 04:13:03.920 who would then reflect poorly on the National Democratic Party. It was actually because 04:13:04.560 --> 04:13:10.080 he would be great. He would be successful as he has been so far, and it would reflect poorly 04:13:10.080 --> 04:13:14.960 on the National Democratic Party from the eyes of the base that would demand more. 04:13:14.960 --> 04:13:20.160 That would ask the question, why can't you be like Zoran? Why can't you fight for us? 04:13:20.160 --> 04:13:24.880 Why can't you accomplish your clear cut easily defined agenda piece by piece? 04:13:26.240 --> 04:13:31.120 That is what they oppose. Okay, that's it. 04:13:35.120 --> 04:13:35.600 That's it. 04:13:39.920 --> 04:13:44.640 There's no great argument for why one must vote for Hailey Stevens. 04:13:44.640 --> 04:13:51.040 She is an unremarkable candidate, a corporate stooge, through and through, not very charismatic, 04:13:51.040 --> 04:13:57.360 doesn't have anything redeemable to her. Which is precisely the reason why her candidacy has 04:13:57.360 --> 04:14:04.600 revolved around attacking Abdel El Sayed. And we know that the on-the-ground enthusiasm is very 04:14:04.600 --> 04:14:11.400 real. Why do we know that? These Abdel El Sayed has been showcasing internal polls that show him 04:14:11.400 --> 04:14:21.040 up sometimes 14% above Hailey Stevens. Hailey Stevens, on the other hand, has not sent any 04:14:21.040 --> 04:14:26.160 internal polls. Do you think that the Stevens camp is not conducting internal polls? Of 04:14:26.160 --> 04:14:33.040 course they are. So why have they refused to reveal the results? Perhaps it's because 04:14:33.040 --> 04:14:40.120 they know that the internal polls look alarming, that their internal polls that are supposed 04:14:40.120 --> 04:14:47.040 to be the most positive numbers that Haley Stevens will ever see are actually disastrous 04:14:47.040 --> 04:14:51.240 for her where she's underwater. And that's precisely the reason why she's getting these 04:14:51.240 --> 04:15:02.520 key endorsements to try to carry some weight. Jim Clyburn, Gary Peters, the outbound senator 04:15:02.520 --> 04:15:09.520 leaving the seat. And last but not least, Gretchen Whitmer, who is an objectively decently 04:15:09.520 --> 04:15:15.520 popular governor, nowhere near as popular as she once was, especially as of late. 04:15:23.040 --> 04:15:29.120 One of those people is Farmington School Board Member Angie Smith. 04:15:32.560 --> 04:15:36.640 This is what she had to say. Yeah, so we're here with Angie Smith. 04:15:36.640 --> 04:15:38.640 and you're from Farmington. 04:15:38.640 --> 04:15:41.640 Hi, I'm G. Stratham from Farmington Public Schools. 04:15:41.640 --> 04:15:44.640 Top work getter from Farmington Public School Board 04:15:44.640 --> 04:15:46.640 and on the 41 years. 04:15:46.640 --> 04:15:50.640 I am supporting Hailey Stevens because she's that candidate. 04:15:50.640 --> 04:15:53.640 We need someone that can represent all of us. 04:15:53.640 --> 04:15:56.640 Not just one race, but all races. 04:15:56.640 --> 04:16:01.640 Hailey has done great work in Farmington, in in Farmington Hills. 04:16:01.640 --> 04:16:03.640 She knows what she's doing. 04:16:03.640 --> 04:16:10.640 And any time you could go to a democratic convention and be booed and walk from behind a podium 04:16:10.640 --> 04:16:15.640 and stand up while you're being booed and things thrown at you, that's our person. 04:16:15.640 --> 04:16:20.640 So let's go August 4th for Haiti's Day. Thank you. 04:16:20.640 --> 04:16:23.640 Thank you. When you say, you know, not just for one, what do you mean by that? 04:16:23.640 --> 04:16:29.640 Well, the other candidate seems to be for, it doesn't work a room. 04:16:29.640 --> 04:16:40.640 You have to know how to work the road. Don't come out speaking only Arabic. Don't come out with your Arabic music on. Represent everyone. 04:16:42.640 --> 04:16:46.640 Boomers man. Fuckin' boomers. 04:16:46.640 --> 04:16:52.640 I swear to God, I try to stay away from generational politics because I think it's reactionary, but... 04:16:53.640 --> 04:16:56.640 Every day. Every damn day. 04:16:56.640 --> 04:17:06.520 Every damn day black white Hispanic doesn't matter if it's a boomer they're booming. Okay 04:17:08.440 --> 04:17:16.500 Every damn motherfucking day of the week boomers got a boom baby. That's it. It's gotta be the lead poisoning or something 04:17:17.440 --> 04:17:21.260 Again, this is like in insane. This is obviously insanely racist 04:17:23.080 --> 04:17:25.080 Okay 04:17:25.080 --> 04:17:31.480 Like saying that Abdul represents Arabs with their Arab music. I mean, this is you know 04:17:32.680 --> 04:17:34.680 Hearing it from 04:17:35.140 --> 04:17:42.140 Someone in Democratic Party politics in the state is extra gross considering that the school board that she sits on 04:17:42.140 --> 04:17:45.920 most likely has a decent percentage of Muslim students as well and 04:17:47.040 --> 04:17:52.480 One of the things that I always have to remind people one of the things that I always have to remind people is 04:17:52.480 --> 04:18:01.680 is that this is not like anti-Arab, anti-Muslim, Islamophobic sentiment in the black community 04:18:01.680 --> 04:18:07.720 is not a real thing, okay? These are establishment boomers that are trying to defend their entrenched 04:18:07.720 --> 04:18:15.280 power with incredibly racist politics, but it's far from commonplace. 04:18:15.280 --> 04:18:20.160 I will always repeat myself, but one third of black people in the state of Michigan are 04:18:20.160 --> 04:18:27.760 Muslim themselves. Okay? One third of African Americans in the state of Michigan are Muslim. 04:18:28.400 --> 04:18:38.640 Okay? So that's number one. Number two, there are a shit ton of Muslims and Arabs that live 04:18:38.640 --> 04:18:46.080 alongside the black population in the state as well. And last but not least, number three, 04:18:46.080 --> 04:19:04.080 Paul after poll after poll has consistently shown that black voters that the demographic of black folk in the United States of America are the most woke in comparison to every other racial demographic. 04:19:04.080 --> 04:19:24.080 What's really frustrating about this is that you have boomers and entrenched power that are representing some of the most odious aspects of American politics, some of the most toxic versions of American politics, racism, xenophobia, sometimes white nativist sentiment, ironically enough. 04:19:24.080 --> 04:19:30.640 And what's frustrating about it is that the voters themselves do not reflect these realities. 04:19:30.640 --> 04:19:41.640 And yet, the representatives will say, no, this is how we, as black folk, feel. 04:19:41.640 --> 04:19:42.880 It's bullshit. 04:19:42.880 --> 04:19:48.880 No group of individuals are monolithic, but if you were to look at the black voting block 04:19:48.880 --> 04:19:53.720 or black people who are polled consistently in this country, they are far more quote 04:19:53.720 --> 04:20:00.640 unquote woke, far more liberal, far more open-minded, far more progressive than every other demographic 04:20:00.640 --> 04:20:05.880 in this country, okay? 04:20:05.880 --> 04:20:06.880 That's it. 04:20:06.880 --> 04:20:12.080 Saying that, Paprax says that Northwest Detroit has been flooded by mailers showing former 04:20:12.080 --> 04:20:13.080 President Obama and Stevens. 04:20:13.080 --> 04:20:14.160 A lot of people are not aware. 04:20:14.160 --> 04:20:16.640 She says Stevens' support of Israel is wrong. 04:20:16.640 --> 04:20:22.720 As a black woman from an oppressed people in the United States, I can't stand behind that your peers are gonna vote for Haley 04:20:22.720 --> 04:20:24.720 Is that what you're hearing from your peers? 04:20:46.640 --> 04:20:57.640 However, our community and most of the children have been flooded with flighters, every day I get one in my house, and show pictures of girls, black people, her at the churches. 04:20:57.640 --> 04:21:06.640 I said, where was she all this other time? We never saw her. And what she did ten years ago, what did she do? 04:21:06.640 --> 04:21:25.160 This is far closer to the common sentiment of black Americans than anything establishment 04:21:25.160 --> 04:21:28.240 Democrats say. 04:21:28.240 --> 04:21:34.840 It's nasty business, it's just the truth, APAC has almost completely captured the Congressional 04:21:34.840 --> 04:21:40.320 Blackcock is not in its entirety, of course, but a lot of the older, a lot of the older 04:21:40.320 --> 04:21:47.960 members that want to hold on to their seat of power desperately rely on unlimited donations 04:21:47.960 --> 04:21:50.920 from APAC and other subsidiaries. 04:21:50.920 --> 04:21:59.820 And that's part of the reason why they have a attitude that is directly opposite to their 04:21:59.820 --> 04:22:00.820 base of support. 04:22:00.820 --> 04:22:08.300 Now it still doesn't matter because as far as a reliable voting block goes, the reality 04:22:08.300 --> 04:22:12.700 of the matter is there's of course a lot of established credibility and trust that comes 04:22:12.700 --> 04:22:14.960 with this entrenched power. 04:22:14.960 --> 04:22:19.880 That's why Jim Clyburn, Jim Clyburn doesn't have the capacity to do hypnosis to his base 04:22:19.880 --> 04:22:21.120 of support. 04:22:21.120 --> 04:22:30.760 He is just a popular figure because he is well liked and he's trusted. 04:22:30.760 --> 04:22:37.200 for years and years of sitting in his throne of power in South Carolina, he's been able 04:22:37.200 --> 04:22:43.960 to fund a lot of initiatives from HBCUs to church groups. And therefore he has a phenomenal 04:22:43.960 --> 04:22:52.320 relationship with a lot of black leadership all around the country. Okay? That's it. Jim 04:22:52.320 --> 04:22:57.060 Clyburn is who I'm talking about right now, the kingmaker of the Democratic party in some 04:22:57.060 --> 04:23:04.180 respects who also endorsed Haley Stevens. But to assume, but to assume that Jim 04:23:04.180 --> 04:23:07.620 Claveron speaks for all black Americans would be wrong. 04:23:19.220 --> 04:23:21.140 He's also 86 years old. 04:23:21.140 --> 04:23:29.060 Why has the establishment been so late to consolidate around these candidates? 04:23:29.060 --> 04:23:31.940 These endorsements could have been much more helpful immediately after McMorah dropped out. 04:23:31.940 --> 04:23:34.500 Abdel and Hong has really confused me with what they're doing. 04:23:36.900 --> 04:23:40.660 I think I don't know what their calculation is. I can't know what's in their heart. 04:23:40.660 --> 04:23:48.340 I have no idea. But I suspect they want, they know that, they know that leaning in 04:23:48.340 --> 04:23:57.900 in to a particular candidate is possibly burning a lot of credibility. Many of them already 04:23:57.900 --> 04:24:03.020 burned a decent amount with Andrew Cuomo, which Jim Clyburn endorsed over Zoramum Downey, 04:24:03.020 --> 04:24:11.860 if you recall. Now, a lot of people don't remember that, luckily for Jim Clyburn. But 04:24:11.860 --> 04:24:16.820 part of the reason why establishment candidates don't consolidate around certain candidates, 04:24:16.820 --> 04:24:22.020 establishment operatives is because they don't want to burn their credibility. Because if 04:24:22.020 --> 04:24:28.820 Abdull wins in the primary, all of a sudden, that says something about how much social 04:24:28.820 --> 04:24:34.100 and political capital Gresham Whitmer has, how much social and political capital Jim 04:24:34.100 --> 04:24:41.180 Clyburn has. This has, this, this changes the calculation for 2028. If you no longer 04:24:41.180 --> 04:24:47.800 have the same influential capabilities, then you won't get the same level of financial 04:24:47.800 --> 04:24:52.680 aid. You won't get the same amount of money. People start reconsidering how much power 04:24:52.680 --> 04:24:58.180 you truly have. 04:24:58.180 --> 04:25:01.280 South Carolina, then party chair to Shane Goldmacher. If Nevada gets elevated over South 04:25:01.280 --> 04:25:04.120 Carolina, it would be because of their Latino votes. So you would then be telling black 04:25:04.120 --> 04:25:07.160 voters, you matter less than brown voters. And I refuse to believe that our party wants 04:25:07.160 --> 04:25:13.080 send any type of message like that. I mean, this stuff sucks. It's so stupid. This is about the whole 04:25:13.080 --> 04:25:17.480 fight that took place where South Carolina is going to be the first primary. I don't necessarily 04:25:17.480 --> 04:25:23.800 think it's a bad thing. By the way, I have some controversial opinions on that, but 04:25:26.280 --> 04:25:31.000 we'll get to that in a second. This party is so chock full of disingenuous insiders who weaponize 04:25:31.000 --> 04:25:35.480 the most toxic and phony identity wedges to meet out political factional posturing. The reason 04:25:35.480 --> 04:25:39.880 reason Nevada should go before South Carolina is because it's actually in play in the general 04:25:39.880 --> 04:25:44.360 why South Carolina should never feature as some major primary. Everyone's just afraid 04:25:44.360 --> 04:25:48.100 to say it honestly because Claiborne will exert himself to put his own grip on the 04:25:48.100 --> 04:25:51.920 party above the country's best interest and nobody wants to be on the record saying something 04:25:51.920 --> 04:25:56.320 honest when they might have to pretend South Carolina should be a hugely decisive state. 04:25:56.320 --> 04:26:01.520 Yeah, there are plenty of states that have even more black voters in South Carolina 04:26:01.520 --> 04:26:07.520 Georgia is another one, for example. Why is Georgia not going first? Georgia is a fairly... 04:26:07.520 --> 04:26:12.480 Georgia is far more important for Democratic Party politics in South Carolina. This isn't to say we 04:26:12.480 --> 04:26:21.280 should let go of South Carolina, okay? Like we should not give up on the South. I'm not ever 04:26:21.280 --> 04:26:26.160 going to make that argument. It's actually one of the main criticisms that I have for the Democratic 04:26:26.160 --> 04:26:35.680 party, ironically enough, the South is very black for the Democratic Party's base of support, 04:26:35.680 --> 04:26:39.120 very black in the South. And that's part of the reason why it's often overlooked. 04:26:39.120 --> 04:26:43.680 South Carolina is also overlooked, except for the fact that Jim Clyburn gets a lot of money 04:26:43.680 --> 04:26:51.840 as he plays a pivotal role in the establishment that defends entrenched power. 04:26:51.840 --> 04:26:59.200 And that's why he gets decent amounts of resources, but then he distributes those resources to his machine, right? 04:27:03.840 --> 04:27:08.720 It turns into a little fiefdom for Jim Clyburn. That's just how he is operated and 04:27:09.680 --> 04:27:13.840 most people don't want to say it out loud because they'll get yelled at because the same 04:27:15.040 --> 04:27:17.040 uh, the the same 04:27:17.040 --> 04:27:24.040 Like, toxic politics plays itself out again, the identity, the shallow identity politics 04:27:24.040 --> 04:27:30.120 of like, oh, you're attacking Jim Clyburn, which means you hate black people. Jim Clyburn 04:27:30.120 --> 04:27:35.600 is not the singular figure that is representative of all black people, far from it as a matter 04:27:35.600 --> 04:27:41.120 of fact. That's why I keep repeatedly saying black people are not conservative by and large, 04:27:41.120 --> 04:27:48.200 Okay. They are the most progressive demographic of voters. They're the most progressive people 04:27:48.200 --> 04:27:55.180 in the country. Okay. Not only as a voting block, but also as a, as an entire demographic, 04:27:55.180 --> 04:28:01.520 there are a shit ton of polls to show the exact opposite. 04:28:01.520 --> 04:28:07.460 Black people consistently rate socialism with higher favorability than all other racial 04:28:07.460 --> 04:28:12.020 groups in the country, same with progressive values, same with economic populist agenda 04:28:12.020 --> 04:28:27.620 items. It's ridiculous. This is a major generational divide. The generational divide that ends 04:28:27.620 --> 04:28:34.780 up benefiting entrenched power in the party, so they just keep brow-beating people over 04:28:34.780 --> 04:28:41.420 the head and claiming cynically that you're racist if you oppose an 86-year-old man, being 04:28:41.420 --> 04:28:52.780 the kingmaker of the Democratic Party. 04:28:52.780 --> 04:28:58.680 This was something that I saw from Jim Clyburn that I could not believe. 04:28:58.680 --> 04:29:01.680 Here it is. 04:29:01.680 --> 04:29:05.560 For the record, I want to make sure that people understand. 04:29:05.560 --> 04:29:12.200 This isn't a carte blanche approach to shitting on black political power in this country 04:29:12.200 --> 04:29:22.880 and to start sounding off on Jim Clyburn and all this other shit, because that only forces 04:29:22.880 --> 04:29:29.340 black political power to close up their ranks, because they've heard this a million times 04:29:29.340 --> 04:29:35.420 over from not only the Republicans and the racist reactionaries, but racist Democrats 04:29:35.420 --> 04:29:36.420 too. 04:29:36.420 --> 04:29:43.340 So, it's unfortunately too somber of a reminder for a lot of black political operatives to 04:29:43.340 --> 04:29:47.900 hear this kind of criticism from a guy that looks like me, especially now that I shave 04:29:47.900 --> 04:29:52.580 and look objectively less Muslim, okay? 04:29:52.580 --> 04:29:59.460 You take from the Biden administration, like political political lessons, like was there 04:29:59.460 --> 04:30:04.260 any political lesson you think there is to take from an administration whose central 04:30:04.260 --> 04:30:07.700 goal was to stop Donald Trump's return and here we are. 04:30:07.700 --> 04:30:10.700 And he stopped it. 04:30:10.700 --> 04:30:12.900 I mean, you stopped it in an able. 04:30:12.900 --> 04:30:20.740 I think some of the argument well, when the white vote turned out 71% two years ago and 04:30:20.740 --> 04:30:28.340 black vote turned out 59%. You tell me who's fault that is. I guess I 59% of African Americans 04:30:28.340 --> 04:30:35.300 went to the polls two years ago. It's tough for me personally to blame black voters for the last 04:30:35.300 --> 04:30:40.900 election more than it is to blame President Joe Biden. That's the fact. It wasn't Joe Biden on the 04:30:40.900 --> 04:30:44.300 the ticket, it was Kamala Harris on the ticket. 04:30:44.300 --> 04:30:56.660 For 107 days after he decided to. 04:30:56.660 --> 04:31:00.860 The thing that also annoys me is the racism. 04:31:00.860 --> 04:31:02.980 I'll say this as well. 04:31:02.980 --> 04:31:08.820 The racism coming from white establishment Democrats that will then say, oh, this is 04:31:08.820 --> 04:31:14.700 the sage wisdom of an ancient black man. How dare you criticize him? Like he's just a fucking 04:31:14.700 --> 04:31:21.500 boomer, man. That's it. He's old. He's old and out of touch. He's 86 years old. It is 04:31:21.500 --> 04:31:28.640 not, there is no sage wisdom here. Okay. Shut the fuck up. I hate that like near a tandem 04:31:28.640 --> 04:31:35.100 and so many white Democrat consultants, white Democratic party consultants that are also 04:31:35.100 --> 04:31:39.700 Uh, just as invested in defending in trench power as Jim Clyburn is, we'll then turn around 04:31:39.700 --> 04:31:41.740 and say like, no, this is the sage wisdom. 04:31:41.740 --> 04:31:44.820 Your race is for saying that just so you understand. 04:31:44.820 --> 04:31:46.140 Okay. 04:31:46.140 --> 04:31:51.620 It's this weird, like other rising of, of black people when they agree with your position, 04:31:51.620 --> 04:31:54.020 I guess, when you're like, no, you don't understand. 04:31:54.020 --> 04:31:56.340 He knows better than everybody else. 04:31:56.340 --> 04:31:57.340 You're other rising. 04:31:57.340 --> 04:31:58.340 You're being cynical. 04:31:58.340 --> 04:31:59.460 You're being fucking racist. 04:32:05.100 --> 04:32:13.660 It's ridiculous dude, this take is ridiculous. 04:32:13.660 --> 04:32:24.620 It's the voters that are at fault. 04:32:24.620 --> 04:32:31.540 What a ridiculous statement, but fuck do you mean it's the voters that are at fault? 04:32:31.540 --> 04:32:37.720 This is inherently anti-democracy, okay? 04:32:37.720 --> 04:32:42.680 There is a democratic process, which means you have to fight like hell to win voters 04:32:42.680 --> 04:32:44.240 over, okay? 04:32:44.240 --> 04:32:47.200 That means your agenda sucked. 04:32:47.200 --> 04:32:50.680 We have to go back to the drawing board. 04:32:50.680 --> 04:32:58.280 It's so totally ridiculous that Kamala Harris failed to activate the base, the black voting 04:32:58.280 --> 04:33:04.840 block that is the most reliable voter block for the Democrats. As a black woman, we have 04:33:04.840 --> 04:33:09.720 to look back at what failed. We can't just sit there and be like, oh, you just didn't 04:33:09.720 --> 04:33:16.680 vote hard enough. Fuck you. That's crazy. That's crazy. The fuck do you mean is the 04:33:16.680 --> 04:33:20.160 black voters that are at fault. What are you talking about, man? 04:33:25.560 --> 04:33:26.440 On the ticket. 04:33:28.400 --> 04:33:32.120 I guess I just wanted to see it's so funny. Is that laughs in 04:33:32.120 --> 04:33:33.960 his fucking face, by the way? 04:33:33.960 --> 04:33:34.920 I have on the ticket. 04:33:36.160 --> 04:33:41.440 For 107 days after it was on the ticket. 04:33:43.440 --> 04:33:46.120 I guess I just wanted to see if there was a clear political 04:33:46.120 --> 04:33:49.400 lesson you took from that moment and whether there think you think something 04:33:49.400 --> 04:33:54.160 applies in this kind of you say nope no lessons to be learned of larger 04:33:54.160 --> 04:33:57.800 democratic rethink after but I hear you you're saying that you think it was it 04:33:57.800 --> 04:34:00.800 was a media problem it was a branding problem it was a candidate problem I 04:34:00.800 --> 04:34:07.440 didn't say that the media had nothing to do with that 59% if that 59% had been 04:34:07.440 --> 04:34:14.680 69% she would have won I guess so is the argument that black people let Kamala 04:34:14.680 --> 04:34:20.280 Harris down? Oh, I think in many instances, absolutely. If you 04:34:20.280 --> 04:34:25.080 don't show up to vote, what are you doing? Is there no valid 04:34:25.080 --> 04:34:28.880 reason why black voters could not have felt heard by the last 04:34:28.880 --> 04:34:32.800 democratic election? Is there no valid reason that they might be? 04:34:32.800 --> 04:34:38.200 I like to know what it is. No, you don't. No, you don't. As a 04:34:38.200 --> 04:34:42.240 matter of fact, you definitely don't. That's why you're saying 04:34:42.240 --> 04:34:49.040 is is black people at fault for Kamala Harris losing 04:34:49.040 --> 04:34:52.040 Adam Johnson's there's no other sales job and make no mistake campaigning in politics 04:34:52.040 --> 04:34:55.200 is sales where you get to consistently fail at winning people over and you get to blame 04:34:55.200 --> 04:34:57.640 them for not buying your wares. 04:34:57.640 --> 04:35:10.440 Voter scolding has 0% success rate, but it's all the calcified establishment has always 04:35:10.440 --> 04:35:16.280 Kamala Harris was like a cop. What? Pop prison pipeline lady. I can see that being an issue. No. 04:35:18.280 --> 04:35:28.120 No. No, that wasn't the, the 107 days is valid. The other problem is people are disillusioned. 04:35:28.120 --> 04:35:32.680 They don't want to vote for either party. There's a generational divide taking place in the black 04:35:32.680 --> 04:35:40.920 voting population right now that many of the older establishment figures are oblivious to. 04:35:40.920 --> 04:35:50.440 I've been literally calling this out for the last two cycles now, okay? There is a big generational 04:35:50.440 --> 04:35:59.000 gap. The black voters who can remember or are at least like one generation removed from the last 04:35:59.000 --> 04:36:03.740 time Democrats expended social and political capital to ensure that they have the right 04:36:03.740 --> 04:36:09.340 to vote, will then go and reliably vote for the Democrats. Younger black voters on the 04:36:09.340 --> 04:36:16.020 other hand do not recall such an experience. All they have known is nothing. Okay. All 04:36:16.020 --> 04:36:21.340 they have known is harm reduction. All they've known is nothing at all. So for them, for 04:36:21.340 --> 04:36:25.020 the younger voters, there's no reason to go out and fucking vote because they're like, 04:36:25.020 --> 04:36:28.820 oh, what am I supposed to do? Okay. One side is like openly racist. The other side is 04:36:28.820 --> 04:36:35.380 not as racist, but like it doesn't, you know, I still got to go to work every morning. 04:36:35.380 --> 04:36:43.860 That's it. Because democracy comes down to this fundamental principle. What will you 04:36:43.860 --> 04:36:52.100 do for me? Or what have you done for me lately? And if the answer is nada, if the answer is 04:36:52.100 --> 04:36:57.060 nothing, if the answer is just, oh, well, we won power, and therefore, Republicans didn't 04:36:57.060 --> 04:37:04.340 get the shit on your life even further. Sure, in the end point of that four-year experience 04:37:04.340 --> 04:37:09.380 of living under a racist white supremacist Trump administration, there will be more people 04:37:09.380 --> 04:37:14.540 that will be excited to go out and vote. But that's not enough for coalition building. 04:37:14.540 --> 04:37:21.180 That's not enough to win elections, especially if the opposing side is capable of drawing 04:37:21.180 --> 04:37:24.860 turnout from an increasingly agitated base. 04:37:24.860 --> 04:37:32.420 Yeah, he said, this is absolutely crazy, exonerate the political class in media and blame black 04:37:32.420 --> 04:37:34.100 people for Harris losing. 04:37:34.100 --> 04:37:37.740 I think he's also severely overestimating the political appetite for this lesson as a 04:37:37.740 --> 04:37:38.740 stick. 04:37:38.740 --> 04:37:42.700 There are massive generational and class breaks within the broader black electorate, and this 04:37:42.700 --> 04:37:47.420 reheated lecture isn't winning people over who don't feel like they have any buy-in. 04:37:47.420 --> 04:37:55.460 Yeah, this was also, there was another thing, it was the Obama method, Obama even did this, 04:37:55.460 --> 04:37:58.940 which was crazy. 04:37:58.940 --> 04:38:09.860 Obama did this too, when he was like, oh, I guess a lot of black men are just misogynistic. 04:38:09.860 --> 04:38:13.820 Which is, you know, what a crazy fucking thing to say. 04:38:13.820 --> 04:38:21.420 What a crazy thing to say, just fucking using and abusing a voter block is nothing but a 04:38:21.420 --> 04:38:28.820 reliable vote with no expectations of delivery whatsoever. 04:38:28.820 --> 04:38:35.540 And also, greatly overemphasizing the idea that like black voters are leaving the Democratic 04:38:35.540 --> 04:38:40.260 Party and like voting for the Republicans when that's not even true out of all of the, 04:38:40.260 --> 04:38:45.140 you look at the racial breakdown, once again, black people still overwhelmingly vote for 04:38:45.140 --> 04:38:50.340 the Democratic Party. Look at fucking white people. Why are we otherizing and singling 04:38:50.340 --> 04:38:54.020 out black people in this country when we talk about like misogyny, homophobia, shit like 04:38:54.020 --> 04:39:00.940 that? That stuff pisses me off to no end. There's never a, there's never a calculus 04:39:00.940 --> 04:39:10.700 about the toxic politics of whiteness in the same degree by liberals, especially. 04:39:12.060 --> 04:39:18.860 Like, we understand that whiteness is the default. So we can look at some white people as being 04:39:18.860 --> 04:39:23.580 right-wing and reactionary, and other white people as not being in that same category. 04:39:23.580 --> 04:39:27.820 But when it comes to black people, it's all because it's a minority population. It's all, 04:39:27.820 --> 04:39:34.860 They're all the same. Okay. They're all the same. They're all yeah homophobic homophobic is a black person person problem 04:39:34.860 --> 04:39:37.980 Nobody says homophobic is a white people problem, you know 04:39:40.460 --> 04:39:43.860 And it would be ridiculous we we broke it down like that anyway 04:39:46.900 --> 04:39:49.440 Yeah, he worked with the Republicans how James Clyburn 04:39:50.660 --> 04:39:52.860 Protects his district at a cost of black Democrats 04:39:52.860 --> 04:40:04.140 I know. He's just very selfish man. I'm sorry. It's just that's it. He's very very selfish. 04:40:04.140 --> 04:40:11.300 As the rest of these fucking boomers man, that's it. That's it. He is a goddamn boomer. What do 04:40:11.300 --> 04:40:18.500 you want? He's 86 years old. And before people say Bernie Sanders is a boomer too. I agree. 04:40:18.500 --> 04:40:23.940 Bernie is also a boomer, except Bernie has been trying to build an actual fucking movement 04:40:24.900 --> 04:40:30.820 that is trying to unseat entrenched power. Jim Clyburn is using his last years on God's green 04:40:30.820 --> 04:40:37.380 earth to basically solidify his position to never offer anything to the voters. 04:40:37.380 --> 04:40:49.820 Yeah, Democrats love to trot out mummies like Clyburn because it allows them to cloak themselves 04:40:49.820 --> 04:40:52.860 in the moral authority of the civil rights movement on behalf of Israel and insurance 04:40:52.860 --> 04:40:57.660 companies. But another huge benefit is they can turn the racism dial all the way up. Yeah, 04:40:57.660 --> 04:41:02.540 this person, I guess, deleted their fucking take because it was insane. Okay. 04:41:07.380 --> 04:41:12.460 This lady literally was like saying, don't you feel like Abdul is kind of like a rapist 04:41:12.460 --> 04:41:13.460 ex-boyfriend? 04:41:13.460 --> 04:41:16.340 It's like, no, I actually don't feel that way. 04:41:16.340 --> 04:41:24.220 You just have a new permission structure, I guess, by claiming that this scary Muslim 04:41:24.220 --> 04:41:31.740 man is like a rapist woman-hater. 04:41:31.740 --> 04:41:34.900 Can you imagine if a Republican leader had worked with Dems to gerrymander against more 04:41:34.900 --> 04:41:43.140 Republican seats, it's legitimately impossible to imagine. Yeah. 04:41:43.140 --> 04:41:46.880 All of the elaborate debates about whether Democrats should adopt 5D chess, ultra-pragmatic 04:41:46.880 --> 04:41:51.880 heterodox social conservatism or electorate transforming socialist leadershipism will 04:41:51.880 --> 04:41:55.660 always be hilarious when this is actually who runs the party. Back in the 1800s, both 04:41:55.660 --> 04:42:00.720 these sides would have considered themselves a part of the larger reform block and one. 04:42:00.720 --> 04:42:05.420 But now the so-called pragmatists think that they and only the people they see on their 04:42:05.420 --> 04:42:09.240 phone are the only ones who exist, so that they just whine and go on as we're climb 04:42:09.240 --> 04:42:11.240 and lose. 04:42:11.240 --> 04:42:13.240 Yeah. 04:42:13.240 --> 04:42:18.000 Yeah, this is what blue maga was doing. 04:42:18.000 --> 04:42:21.640 Is it just me or is Abdullasahed like an abusive boyfriend who gets far more unpredictable 04:42:21.640 --> 04:42:23.940 and dangerous when he realized you might be leaving him? 04:42:23.940 --> 04:42:26.320 If he wins, I have a feeling that there would be some skeletons revealed. 04:42:26.320 --> 04:42:29.800 As for now, it's clear that Abdullasahed is just not a fan of treating women with respect, 04:42:29.800 --> 04:42:42.180 is a major reason why he needs to lose Kamala was an intelligence experienced professional 04:42:42.180 --> 04:42:45.280 black woman but she was average as fuck the hardest thing is getting some older black 04:42:45.280 --> 04:42:48.800 aunties and unks to accept that we cannot settle for average with any politician and 04:42:48.800 --> 04:42:52.720 especially not one that supported a genocide is frustrating for them that subpar average 04:42:52.720 --> 04:42:56.400 white man can win but not a qualified black woman but it's not the relevant issue in 04:42:56.400 --> 04:43:02.480 Ham, Kamala is the genocide. I mean, it's the genocide, but it's also the lack of charisma 04:43:02.480 --> 04:43:09.240 as well, the lack of like, the lack of change. Like Kamala Harris anchored herself around 04:43:09.240 --> 04:43:14.400 a dying candidate, like literally a dying campaign, the Joe Biden reelection campaign 04:43:14.400 --> 04:43:19.400 that died. And she was supposed to be the replacement. And instead of charting a different 04:43:19.400 --> 04:43:24.720 path forward, she leaned into it, which was fucking ridiculous. If you're going to be 04:43:24.720 --> 04:43:33.200 the young, vibrant, black American alternative to Joe Biden, you have to show that, okay? 04:43:33.200 --> 04:43:37.120 You have to show that if you run around and say, no, I'm just like the fucking old guy 04:43:37.120 --> 04:43:44.080 who you guys opposed so much that I, in this totally unique set of circumstances, became 04:43:44.080 --> 04:43:51.720 the actual presidential nominee, you can't anchor yourself with that dead weight around 04:43:51.720 --> 04:43:58.600 your neck, and then expect to win. It's funny to complain about mediocre white men and have 04:43:58.600 --> 04:44:01.860 the entire Democratic establishment go to war for Biden's nomination, the definition of 04:44:01.860 --> 04:44:12.600 a mediocre white man. I agree, but that mediocre white man won, okay? 04:44:12.600 --> 04:44:19.280 Here's another example of an accomplished white woman, Hillary Rodham Clinton. She had 04:44:19.280 --> 04:44:25.540 The pedigree, she had the endorsements, she had the media backing. 04:44:25.540 --> 04:44:30.180 She was the reasonable candidate, as opposed to the mania represented by Donald Trump. 04:44:30.180 --> 04:44:36.420 If you simply look at that, don't say Barf, it's just on paper, who do you think would 04:44:36.420 --> 04:44:39.100 be a better president on paper, guys? 04:44:39.100 --> 04:44:43.900 Hillary Rodham fucking Clinton, who was the secretary of state, or Donald Trump, who was 04:44:43.900 --> 04:44:46.540 a rapist real estate developer. 04:44:46.540 --> 04:44:47.780 What are we talking about? 04:44:47.780 --> 04:44:52.400 And of course, on paper, if you look at the fucking resumes of Donald Trump and Hillary 04:44:52.400 --> 04:44:57.620 Clinton, yes, Hillary Clinton was clearly the better option. 04:44:57.620 --> 04:45:02.180 But people don't make those decisions in the same way that the establishment Democrats 04:45:02.180 --> 04:45:05.460 want them to, okay? 04:45:05.460 --> 04:45:06.580 Same goes for Kamala Harris. 04:45:06.580 --> 04:45:14.080 Kamala Harris was a far more accomplished stateswoman, okay? 04:45:14.080 --> 04:45:15.780 She had the background. 04:45:15.780 --> 04:45:19.300 She had the prosecutorial background. 04:45:19.300 --> 04:45:21.620 She had a brief stint in the Senate. 04:45:21.620 --> 04:45:22.980 It doesn't really count too much. 04:45:22.980 --> 04:45:25.660 She was vice president, right? 04:45:25.660 --> 04:45:28.460 She was accomplished, but it doesn't matter. 04:45:28.460 --> 04:45:43.620 Being accomplished is not going to carry you across the finish line. 04:45:43.620 --> 04:45:49.100 When you call her young, you insult the actual young Harris of 61. Yes, that is young, unfortunately 04:45:49.100 --> 04:45:55.260 for modern American politics, modern American politicians. She didn't have a good policy 04:45:55.260 --> 04:46:02.980 platform. She didn't have a lot of charisma. And she was all over the place. That's partially 04:46:02.980 --> 04:46:09.020 because she is a little bit of a chameleon. She ran in 2019 as like another Bernie Kratts 04:46:09.020 --> 04:46:15.220 style candidate that none of the Bernie Kratz actually believed in because it was fake. 04:46:15.220 --> 04:46:17.820 Exactly on paper, Kamala's far superior to Trump and many other candidates, but she was 04:46:17.820 --> 04:46:20.700 averaging every other way, so it wasn't an oven, especially when you tack on the way 04:46:20.700 --> 04:46:21.700 to being pro-genocide. 04:46:21.700 --> 04:46:25.700 That was my whole point, yeah. 04:46:25.700 --> 04:46:30.460 And then she pivoted to the right as well, which was a disaster because why would you 04:46:30.460 --> 04:46:51.620 go for the diet soda when you can get the full-strength soda from the Republicans. 04:46:51.620 --> 04:46:59.180 Adam Johnson responds to Jeb Fain, House Majority, former Dem Spokesperson, the CCC, classic 04:46:59.180 --> 04:47:00.180 establishment Democrat. 04:47:00.180 --> 04:47:07.180 This is a satirical post. This is about the, the, the, uh, Abdul al-Sayed fake, uh, post 04:47:07.180 --> 04:47:13.800 Abdul al-Sayed handshake, Mike Rogers, Florida, Republican Mike Rogers endorses Abdul for 04:47:13.800 --> 04:47:19.520 Senate. She made like a fake campaign poster using the Abdul font, doping voters into believing 04:47:19.520 --> 04:47:24.960 that the Republican opposition had endorsed Abdul al-Sayed, made blue and said, AES Abdul 04:47:24.960 --> 04:47:28.520 al-Sayed should file a cease and desist or something. Ripping off the campaign bra branding 04:47:28.520 --> 04:47:33.120 is problematic and misleading. 04:47:33.120 --> 04:47:37.120 Jeff Fink said it's a satirical post mocking outside because Mike Rogers told his own donors 04:47:37.120 --> 04:47:40.840 that he'd rather who he'd rather run against. All the dramatic freakouts these leftists 04:47:40.840 --> 04:47:45.320 have over normal campaign tactics. It's almost like they never experienced a competitive 04:47:45.320 --> 04:47:50.040 general election before. Just going to keep harping on this, but this is factually false. 04:47:50.040 --> 04:47:54.080 Rogers never told his donors. He'd rather run against outside. He was specifically asked 04:47:54.080 --> 04:47:58.760 about a strategy against outside and projected confidence he would win, which is what one 04:47:58.760 --> 04:48:03.100 does when talking with donors, not knowing how he handicapped the race against Stevens. 04:48:03.100 --> 04:48:07.360 This out of context quote is utterly meaningless. This is an outright lie. A false it at no 04:48:07.360 --> 04:48:11.660 point. Any of the, in any of the donor call clips, does he express a preference for either 04:48:11.660 --> 04:48:16.980 candidate whatsoever? Jeff Fain then responds with, sure, man, keep pretending as some mystery 04:48:16.980 --> 04:48:20.720 who Republicans would rather run against. If you spent any of the last decade in reality, 04:48:20.720 --> 04:48:24.920 obviously the far left Bernie bro, who's on record backing defund the police and campaigns 04:48:24.920 --> 04:48:30.780 of the America deserve 911 podcast there, right? So this is just an assertion, not evidence 04:48:30.780 --> 04:48:35.280 to make claims. One needs evidence. I'll say it has 10,000 plus highly motivated volunteers. 04:48:35.280 --> 04:48:40.320 Stevens has hundreds and is propped up by 30 million in a pack money that will disappear. 04:48:40.320 --> 04:48:45.320 The second she wins the nom, I'd much rather run against the latter finding different ways 04:48:45.320 --> 04:48:49.400 to throw out scary Muslim terrorists, the fund terrorists, the fund has some pikers, 04:48:49.400 --> 04:48:53.520 not an argument and is not evidence. I'm sure Roger C strengths and weaknesses in both candidates 04:48:53.520 --> 04:49:01.480 and most important of all, he has given zero indication he'd, uh, who he'd prefer. 04:49:01.480 --> 04:49:06.840 I can't believe these guys still are repeating the whole like, Oh dude, it's going to be 04:49:06.840 --> 04:49:14.240 really bad that Abdul ran with a Sompiker. People in Michigan do not know who the fuck 04:49:14.240 --> 04:49:19.000 I am. Okay. Or the ones that do know who the fuck I am already door knocking for Abdul's 04:49:19.000 --> 04:49:25.480 campaign, you know, some of which are in that 10,000 doorknockers of volunteer army that he has. 04:49:26.840 --> 04:49:33.320 Okay? If the Democratic position in the general is, we want to give you healthcare, 04:49:33.320 --> 04:49:39.080 we want to end the endless militarism, we want to give you housing, and the Republican position is, 04:49:39.080 --> 04:49:45.800 this guy fucking hung out with American podcaster Hassan Piker, the Republicans 04:49:45.800 --> 04:49:51.240 are coming in, diving headfirst into a losing argument. You know who did that back in the day? 04:49:51.240 --> 04:49:56.760 The fucking Democrats did. Oh my god, you're going on the Joe Rogan experience. Oh my god, 04:49:56.760 --> 04:50:02.680 don't you know Joe Rogan is a scary podcast there? And you know what happened? You know what happened 04:50:02.680 --> 04:50:08.200 in the aftermath of that? Republicans won! And Joe Rogan became more popular than ever before. So shut 04:50:08.200 --> 04:50:18.160 the fuck up the Democrats have trotted this idiotic narrative out every single 04:50:18.160 --> 04:50:24.160 time they've been like oh dude fucking is all on mom Donnie loves 9 11 and loves 04:50:24.160 --> 04:50:29.840 the podcaster that loves 9 11 it didn't fucking work time and time again this has 04:50:29.840 --> 04:50:34.040 been trotted out over and over again deployed over and over again it's been a 04:50:34.040 --> 04:50:44.640 a failed message. Why is it a failed message? Simple. Because number one, most Americans 04:50:44.640 --> 04:50:48.480 don't know who the fuck I am. Okay? They don't know. Why would they know? Why should they 04:50:48.480 --> 04:50:56.440 know? I'm a Twitch streamer. Okay? And the ones that do either hate me or love me a lot 04:50:56.440 --> 04:51:03.320 more who love me than hate me. Okay. Now, after the, the, you know, unlimited barrage 04:51:03.320 --> 04:51:07.220 of attack ads from Fox news, that number might change because, you know, there's a lot of 04:51:07.220 --> 04:51:16.740 Republicans who despise me for sure. But those guys weren't voting for Abdul anyway. Okay. 04:51:16.740 --> 04:51:26.020 The other thing is I am utterly immaterial in the grand scheme of things. Politics are 04:51:26.020 --> 04:51:30.180 about what you can do for your voters, what you can do for your constituents. 04:51:32.180 --> 04:51:39.860 Okay, it is incredibly fucking stupid to try to turn the political rat race into anything but that, 04:51:39.860 --> 04:51:45.380 to try to turn that into this silly ass like, which podcast did he appear with? Which guy did he 04:51:45.380 --> 04:51:52.260 campaign with? Do you disavow the comments? Do you disavow the comments of this guy who endorsed you? 04:51:52.260 --> 04:52:00.100 This game does not need to be played. You know who doesn't play this game Donald Trump. That's why he's partially very successful 04:52:02.020 --> 04:52:07.680 So if Democrats actually go, oh my god, we're so sorry we hung out with us on piker 04:52:07.680 --> 04:52:12.980 How dare how dare we do such a disastrous thing then yeah, you'll allow Republicans to win 04:52:13.180 --> 04:52:18.840 But if you say what the fuck are you talking about this guy's a goddamn twitch streamer is a big army of fucking 04:52:18.840 --> 04:52:20.400 uh... door knockers 04:52:20.400 --> 04:52:23.360 yeah i'm gonna go on his platform i'm gonna try to win over the did this 04:52:23.360 --> 04:52:24.920 illusion voters 04:52:24.920 --> 04:52:28.780 that are worried about the future of america because they're american citizens 04:52:28.780 --> 04:52:31.160 and they're my constituents too 04:52:31.160 --> 04:52:34.820 i'm talking to everybody i'm talking to republicans as well 04:52:34.820 --> 04:52:38.440 as long as you say that and you stand by your positions and try to 04:52:38.440 --> 04:52:44.120 reframe the conversation back to medicare for all 04:52:44.120 --> 04:52:45.200 you're good 04:52:45.200 --> 04:52:48.600 your opposition will automatically looks silly 04:52:48.600 --> 04:52:53.960 We're constantly trying to frame the conversation around minutia, whether it be transgender 04:52:53.960 --> 04:52:59.420 athletes, whether it be something even dumber than, you know, trying to position people 04:52:59.420 --> 04:53:06.920 against transgender athletes, which would be a fucking Twitch streamer, right? 04:53:06.920 --> 04:53:16.640 Anyway, here's, uh, here's Mattie Glacius, egg boy on podjohns, complaining that moderate 04:53:16.640 --> 04:53:22.000 Democrats don't have any enthusiasm on their side and won't actually, and don't do enough 04:53:22.000 --> 04:53:26.640 to generate enthusiasm for their moderate candidates and their moderate policies. 04:53:26.640 --> 04:53:32.600 There's a group of moderate Democrats, but they need to give some voice to like, what 04:53:32.600 --> 04:53:39.220 do we think? Who are we? Why are we the good people? And I give incredible credit to Bernie 04:53:39.220 --> 04:53:45.760 Sanders who has been tireless about trying to promote politicians who he likes. And I 04:53:45.760 --> 04:53:50.820 And I hear so many other Democrats and they're mad that Bernie is promoting these people 04:53:50.820 --> 04:53:53.500 and that the people who they like aren't getting promoted. 04:53:53.500 --> 04:53:56.460 But it's like, well, who's going to promote them other than you? 04:53:56.460 --> 04:54:02.940 Yeah, that's what actually bothers me a lot is that they look at the insurgent candidates 04:54:02.940 --> 04:54:09.460 on the left and sort of the progressive outsiders with umbrage. 04:54:09.460 --> 04:54:12.940 That's like the main feeling of like, how dare you and my candidate works really hard 04:54:12.940 --> 04:54:17.500 and has been just do, you know, this is sort of like the Haley Steven stuff has gotten better, 04:54:17.500 --> 04:54:20.780 I think the argument that people are making for her. But originally it was like, well, 04:54:20.780 --> 04:54:25.020 she's been there just working hard and and give her credit for being there and working hard. 04:54:25.020 --> 04:54:29.740 And it's like, okay, I'm sure that's true if you know her, but like voters don't know that. And 04:54:29.740 --> 04:54:34.060 so they're going to need a different kind of story there. Well, and also I know so many 04:54:34.060 --> 04:54:41.660 Democrats who want her to win this primary, but who don't want to fly to Michigan and campaign 04:54:41.660 --> 04:54:46.820 with her, because it'll be embarrassing if they stand with her and she loses, but it'll 04:54:46.820 --> 04:54:50.340 be embarrassing to Bernie if Abdul loses. 04:54:50.340 --> 04:54:55.580 And like he doesn't, he has the, you know, he's doing the work, right? 04:54:55.580 --> 04:55:00.740 And there's no, there's no alternative to that in politics. 04:55:00.740 --> 04:55:06.340 And that's like part of my message to the more moderate Democrats out there is like, 04:55:06.340 --> 04:55:13.580 just give up hope, but also don't just assume that we can keep endlessly staving off the 04:55:13.580 --> 04:55:22.020 laugh. Yeah, he's stuck between party borders now. Stuck between borders, Norway and India, 04:55:22.020 --> 04:55:28.900 but also stuck between party border, stuck between ideological border. This is his life, 04:55:28.900 --> 04:55:37.140 At least he got to meet Erling Holland. That was cool. That was cool. When he met Erling 04:55:37.140 --> 04:55:41.100 Holland, I was like, good on him, you know? 04:55:41.100 --> 04:55:49.500 Then, you know, pulling more rabbits out of the hat, like somebody's got to run a campaign. 04:55:49.500 --> 04:55:54.660 Somebody's got to make the case. You've got to actually like articulate some daring positions 04:55:54.660 --> 04:55:59.620 on the issues. And if people yell at you, you have to explain why they're wrong. And 04:55:59.620 --> 04:56:04.740 like, you got to go on crooked and you probably got to go on Hasan Piker and, you know, do 04:56:04.740 --> 04:56:09.060 some interviews with people who don't agree with you and stand your ground. And that's 04:56:09.060 --> 04:56:14.220 because that's how it's always been. You know, there's no there's no like magic trick. 04:56:14.220 --> 04:56:15.220 Like, 04:56:15.220 --> 04:56:24.020 It's so funny because he's just straight up describing campaigning. Like the the attitude 04:56:24.020 --> 04:56:28.900 from establishment Democrats is, no, of course I have to be in this position. What the fuck 04:56:28.900 --> 04:56:34.500 are you talking about? This was ordained to me by God. This position was given to me by God. 04:56:35.220 --> 04:56:42.260 Are you out of your dang mind? How dare you oppose my power? This is my fucking thief, them. 04:56:43.460 --> 04:56:48.500 And that's not how politics works, man. We don't live in that kind of universe. Maybe you want to 04:56:48.500 --> 04:56:53.620 live in that kind of universe, but that's not the universe we live in. You know, 04:56:53.620 --> 04:57:00.180 Now we still have some semblance of theoretical democracy here, and therefore you just have 04:57:00.180 --> 04:57:05.420 to do shit that you don't want to do, you have to present your ideas, you have to defend 04:57:05.420 --> 04:57:20.420 those ideas, and you have to win. 04:57:20.420 --> 04:57:40.340 It's just so fucking annoying. 04:57:40.340 --> 04:57:43.660 Let's not forget what Maddie thinks her toxic views of the left. 04:57:43.660 --> 04:57:48.340 Yeah, I know, false leftist like Planner and Ablo said her list woke the mission dems 04:57:48.340 --> 04:57:53.020 and have no electability penalty, true. The most toxic views, affirmative action, deference 04:57:53.020 --> 04:57:57.060 to teachers' unions, gender weirdness are shared by a stupider on the left, so electability 04:57:57.060 --> 04:58:03.680 gap is modest. Dude, Matty Glacius is so crazy, because he just says the most toxic views 04:58:03.680 --> 04:58:10.500 are affirmative action and deference to teachers' unions. Teachers' unions are literally some 04:58:10.500 --> 04:58:16.420 of the most popular institutions in this fucking country. What the fuck are you talking about, 04:58:16.420 --> 04:58:24.580 Like, gender weirdness gets into a territory where you're in the wrong, but at least you 04:58:24.580 --> 04:58:28.940 can make an argument that it's like politically toxic nowadays, partially because Democrats 04:58:28.940 --> 04:58:33.580 just never really defended it, partially because Democrats don't have like a platform that 04:58:33.580 --> 04:58:38.420 people want to join for certain things that they might get. 04:58:38.420 --> 04:58:43.220 And therefore the only platform that they hear about is oppositional framing on gender 04:58:43.220 --> 04:58:46.100 related issues, right? 04:58:46.100 --> 04:58:51.080 And the opposition frames you as like silly and hyper focus or invested in the genitals 04:58:51.080 --> 04:58:55.720 of transgender people that you want to give everybody a bottom surgery or something like 04:58:55.720 --> 04:58:56.800 it sucks. 04:58:56.800 --> 04:58:59.740 But that is what has dominated discourse in this country. 04:58:59.740 --> 04:59:08.800 And that's partially once again, the fault of the Democrats, okay? 04:59:08.800 --> 04:59:14.860 It is kind of wild that he's openly saying a reactionary he is though. 04:59:14.860 --> 04:59:18.740 Even the centrists are like, what's your evidence for teachers unions being politically toxic? 04:59:18.740 --> 04:59:21.860 Yeah, exactly. 04:59:21.860 --> 04:59:30.420 Yeah, this was also crazy. 04:59:30.420 --> 04:59:34.220 He posted this like strike on Carg Island. 04:59:34.220 --> 04:59:37.820 AI video. 04:59:37.820 --> 04:59:44.340 Donald Trump did, which we'll be getting to in a second with their situation monitoring. 04:59:44.340 --> 04:59:48.700 But here, let's watch the Michigan Civil War. 04:59:48.700 --> 05:00:00.980 Honestly, don't know right now. 05:00:00.980 --> 05:00:05.340 Do you think it's hypocritical to support defundized but nonpolice? 05:00:05.340 --> 05:00:06.340 Great question. 05:00:06.340 --> 05:00:07.340 No. 05:00:07.340 --> 05:00:12.820 I mean, if you were to ask me, I'm in favor of taking away resources from police departments 05:00:12.820 --> 05:00:17.220 that have inflated budgets and one, forcing accountability upon the police departments 05:00:17.220 --> 05:00:23.480 and two, making them actually do the work of solving crimes and things of that nature. 05:00:23.480 --> 05:00:28.380 But the reason why I don't think it's hypocritical to support the abolition of ICE and not the 05:00:28.380 --> 05:00:35.480 abolition of police, for example, is because policing as an institution has existed in 05:00:35.480 --> 05:00:38.300 one way, shape, or form for far longer than ICE has. 05:00:38.300 --> 05:00:42.540 has been around for 23 years. It's a paperwork violation for the most part. 05:00:43.100 --> 05:00:51.900 Policing as an institution can at the very least be pointed to dealing with very emotional cases, 05:00:51.900 --> 05:00:58.780 like very violent cases like rape, pedophilia and the like. Whereas with ICE, they try to 05:00:58.780 --> 05:01:03.660 masquerade this as a law enforcement agency that is tasked with dealing with pedophiles. 05:01:03.660 --> 05:01:10.380 but the reality of the matter is, one, it's 23 years old at this point, or not 23 years old, sorry, 05:01:10.380 --> 05:01:17.580 20, 2000, yeah, 23 years old at this point, and two, the previous formation of ICE was INS, 05:01:17.580 --> 05:01:22.620 which once again, for the most part, like it's, it's a, it's law enforcement mechanism is about 05:01:22.620 --> 05:01:31.100 paperwork violations, right? Also, policing as an institution is like unfathomably popular, 05:01:31.100 --> 05:01:33.380 are, unfortunately, amongst Americans. 05:01:33.380 --> 05:01:39.540 And that's a whole different story to get into. 05:01:39.540 --> 05:01:40.020 But yeah. 05:01:44.700 --> 05:01:45.540 But that's the reason. 05:01:45.540 --> 05:01:48.420 Those are some of the reasons why I don't think it's hypocritical. 05:02:01.100 --> 05:02:03.900 a packed church basement on a steamy summer evening. 05:02:03.900 --> 05:02:05.900 All right, friends, money out of! 05:02:05.900 --> 05:02:07.260 All right! 05:02:07.260 --> 05:02:08.860 The insurgent keeps... 05:02:08.860 --> 05:02:11.580 Also, if you're asking me, like, about defunding the police, 05:02:11.580 --> 05:02:15.180 I'm in favor of it, so I don't know why, you know, I've... 05:02:15.180 --> 05:02:18.140 I've been a long advocate for, uh, you know, 05:02:19.180 --> 05:02:22.300 I don't say defund the police, even though I defended it, uh, 05:02:22.300 --> 05:02:26.060 and we should have explained it better instead of attacking it immediately, 05:02:26.060 --> 05:02:27.100 which many people did. 05:02:27.100 --> 05:02:34.300 said, and I think if there was plenty of defense of what defunding the police was at the time, 05:02:34.300 --> 05:02:37.860 then people would have a very different approach to it. 05:02:37.860 --> 05:02:42.180 And I am in favor of taking away some of these exhaustive resources that we've given. We 05:02:42.180 --> 05:02:47.900 should demilitarize the American police departments 100 percent. And not only that, but we should 05:02:47.900 --> 05:02:53.780 also use some of those resources to tackle crime at the root cause of the issue, which 05:02:53.780 --> 05:02:59.400 which is, once again, socioeconomic factors, right? 05:02:59.400 --> 05:03:05.240 It's unfortunately a lost cause at this point, at least for the time being, because Americans 05:03:05.240 --> 05:03:10.760 were so unbelievably polarized against this because many business owners freaked the 05:03:10.760 --> 05:03:12.260 fuck out. 05:03:12.260 --> 05:03:18.020 The Democratic Party and its entirety freaked the fuck out on the movement, and they positioned 05:03:18.020 --> 05:03:25.260 themselves in this like very reactionary place from the start against defund the police. 05:03:25.260 --> 05:03:29.300 And that's part of the reason why it's an objectively unpopular slogan now, even if 05:03:29.300 --> 05:03:32.460 it actually makes sense when you explain it to people. 05:03:32.460 --> 05:03:35.900 And the greatest evidence I can give you is Zoram Omdani saying he's going to keep the 05:03:35.900 --> 05:03:44.260 police the same headcount, and he's going to try to figure out a way to cut down on 05:03:44.260 --> 05:03:52.940 over time and focus on building some of the city resources, which again, that is what 05:03:52.940 --> 05:03:59.660 Defund the police was, right? 05:03:59.660 --> 05:04:02.700 So that's what defunding is. 05:04:02.700 --> 05:04:05.740 Most people don't understand that. 05:04:05.740 --> 05:04:11.540 The problem is, while most people find it to be an agreeable position, if you explain 05:04:11.540 --> 05:04:17.060 to them. That's not how this discourse works. If every outlet is saying, oh, you want to fucking kill 05:04:17.060 --> 05:04:21.940 cops, you want to throw cops in prison, you want to abolish the policing, you want rapists to roam 05:04:21.940 --> 05:04:27.460 the streets freely, which they currently do, ironically enough, with the current funded police 05:04:27.460 --> 05:04:34.980 departments. That becomes a lost cause, a lost argument, unfortunately, especially when it's 05:04:34.980 --> 05:04:41.620 channeled by even Democrats, right? Even supposed allies. What I will say about this, 05:04:42.660 --> 05:04:49.940 what I will say about this is that I'm in favor of making policing work for the people rather than 05:04:50.500 --> 05:04:54.740 protect and serve the interests of capital, because I also understand fundamentally, 05:04:54.740 --> 05:05:00.500 as many like police abolitionists do as well, even the most rugged anarchists will tell you that 05:05:00.500 --> 05:05:05.780 there has to be something that takes the place of policing, even if it's like a democratically 05:05:05.780 --> 05:05:13.620 organized system. So, you know, I always say, I just want them to do their fucking jobs because 05:05:13.620 --> 05:05:20.100 cops don't do their jobs at all. It's very frustrating to me. They basically live in Nordic style 05:05:20.100 --> 05:05:24.900 social democracy in the United States of America and their ex-herbs. They drive around in their 05:05:24.900 --> 05:05:30.560 They're fucking lifted F-150 pickup trucks. They come into the cities and brutalized teenagers 05:05:31.080 --> 05:05:37.160 That is when they're even have fucked off to do their jobs at all if they're asked enough to do their jobs 05:05:37.680 --> 05:05:44.880 For the most part they don't do shit. They collect paycheck overtime pay hazard pay and the like they have unfathomably strong unions 05:05:45.320 --> 05:05:50.880 It's it sucks. It's genuinely one of the I guess cushiest jobs you could have 05:05:50.880 --> 05:05:58.520 You're this like unaccountable mass assaulter who doesn't ever have to do anything. 05:05:58.520 --> 05:06:05.360 And I believe that the role of policing in the modern world is a very important one. 05:06:05.360 --> 05:06:07.080 Okay? 05:06:07.080 --> 05:06:10.120 A very, very important one. 05:06:10.120 --> 05:06:15.080 Protecting the presence of law and order with your presence, even if their current presence 05:06:15.080 --> 05:06:18.640 is lawlessness and disorder, unfortunately. 05:06:18.640 --> 05:06:26.520 And also, refusing to do your fucking job, like your very important job of solving crimes. 05:06:26.520 --> 05:06:34.120 That's what my anger and resentment stems from, about modern policing and policing in 05:06:34.120 --> 05:06:35.120 general. 05:06:35.120 --> 05:06:46.320 What is this sadly, there's another clip, with what? 05:06:46.320 --> 05:06:51.320 I have no idea what you're talking about. 05:06:51.320 --> 05:06:52.320 What? 05:06:52.320 --> 05:06:56.320 Here's the economic policies we give some money to some people in some situations. 05:06:56.320 --> 05:07:01.320 I was legit worried they'd hang Platinum over Bernie, but he kept pushing and everyone did. 05:07:01.320 --> 05:07:05.320 Another clip of what? 05:07:05.320 --> 05:07:06.320 They'll just lie. 05:07:06.320 --> 05:07:07.320 Okay, you're on. 05:07:07.320 --> 05:07:08.320 It's simple. 05:07:08.320 --> 05:07:09.320 I want to get money out of. 05:07:09.320 --> 05:07:10.320 Money out of. 05:07:10.320 --> 05:07:11.320 Money out of. 05:07:11.320 --> 05:07:12.320 Money out of. 05:07:12.320 --> 05:07:13.320 Money out of. 05:07:13.320 --> 05:07:14.320 Money out of. 05:07:14.320 --> 05:07:15.320 Money out of. 05:07:15.320 --> 05:07:20.360 should be able to dominate our politics. Corporations shouldn't be able to dominate our politics. 05:07:20.360 --> 05:07:23.800 Chuck Schumer should no longer be Senate leader for anything. 05:07:23.800 --> 05:07:28.760 Abdul Al-Said is 41, the son of Egyptian immigrants, the former Wayne County health director. 05:07:28.760 --> 05:07:32.200 You know, I don't pay my taxes thinking, man, I can't wait for Israel to get another tip. 05:07:33.400 --> 05:07:36.840 Bro, they're going to cut it and go, he doesn't pay his taxes, we got him. 05:07:36.840 --> 05:07:37.880 They're going to clip chimp him. 05:07:38.760 --> 05:07:40.680 I can't wait for Egypt. 05:07:40.680 --> 05:07:43.800 Zaron also froze budget increases, which is technically a defunding as well, 05:07:43.800 --> 05:07:47.160 Well since the budget has to grow to meet raised inflation etc. but not increasing budgets 05:07:47.160 --> 05:07:48.680 you're technically defunding, yes. 05:07:48.680 --> 05:07:50.320 We have another set of bombs. 05:07:50.320 --> 05:07:51.320 Thank you so much. 05:07:51.320 --> 05:07:52.320 Thank you. 05:07:52.320 --> 05:07:56.240 Another church meeting hall, also just across the Detroit city line. 05:07:56.240 --> 05:07:58.280 This is the best of Michigan. 05:07:58.280 --> 05:08:01.400 Haley Stevens is 43 in her fourth term in Congress. 05:08:01.400 --> 05:08:04.920 Before that, works for President Obama's auto industry task force. 05:08:04.920 --> 05:08:08.040 The work that I was a part of when it mattered. 05:08:08.040 --> 05:08:11.840 You know, the work that we cannot forget. 05:08:11.840 --> 05:08:13.440 No talk of revolution here. 05:08:13.440 --> 05:08:15.760 It is, yes, old school. 05:08:15.760 --> 05:08:17.560 Big old rallies are nice things. 05:08:17.560 --> 05:08:19.560 I want to see who's in the neighborhood. 05:08:19.560 --> 05:08:22.280 I want to see who has pastor on speed dial, 05:08:22.280 --> 05:08:24.240 mayor on speed dial. 05:08:24.240 --> 05:08:27.160 Promises to take on Trump, tax the rich, lower health care 05:08:27.160 --> 05:08:30.320 costs, but also talk that sometimes compromise 05:08:30.320 --> 05:08:32.480 brings progress. 05:08:32.480 --> 05:08:34.800 And a reminder, this is Purple Michigan. 05:08:34.800 --> 05:08:37.960 Stevens flipped a Republican health seat to get to Congress. 05:08:37.960 --> 05:08:38.800 I became the first. 05:08:38.800 --> 05:08:39.880 OK, ZNN. 05:08:39.880 --> 05:08:41.680 Jesus Christ, dude. 05:08:41.680 --> 05:08:43.400 Jesus Christ. 05:08:43.400 --> 05:08:57.880 This pro-labor, pro-power of the people, Democrat, since before the moon landing to hold that 05:08:57.880 --> 05:08:58.880 seat. 05:08:58.880 --> 05:09:01.960 The roots of this fight don't go back quite that far. 05:09:01.960 --> 05:09:06.560 Michigan had a huge role in the first round of this insurgent versus establishment battle 05:09:06.560 --> 05:09:07.560 in the Democratic Party. 05:09:07.560 --> 05:09:08.560 That was a decade ago. 05:09:08.560 --> 05:09:09.240 The fight caught up. 05:09:13.400 --> 05:09:15.460 you 05:09:43.400 --> 05:09:45.460 you 05:10:13.400 --> 05:10:15.460 you 05:10:43.400 --> 05:10:45.460 you 05:11:13.400 --> 05:11:15.460 you 05:11:43.400 --> 05:11:45.400 You 05:12:08.880 --> 05:12:11.560 Right now any giant defining issue in this race 05:12:13.400 --> 05:12:15.800 Walter Robinson, Jr. lives in neighboring 05:12:15.800 --> 05:12:19.400 Dearborn Heights. Its population, 40% Arab. 05:12:19.400 --> 05:12:22.400 Affordability is by far Robinson's top issue. 05:12:22.400 --> 05:12:24.900 He is voting El Sayed because he's a union guy, 05:12:24.900 --> 05:12:27.900 and he trusts the United Auto Workers endorsement process. 05:12:27.900 --> 05:12:30.900 There's a lot of people that feel like that the union 05:12:30.900 --> 05:12:34.900 shouldn't tell them what to do or how to vote. 05:12:34.900 --> 05:12:39.900 But like I said, connecting the ballot box to your bread box 05:12:39.900 --> 05:12:41.900 is vitally important. 05:12:41.900 --> 05:12:45.860 Robinson doesn't agree with Alcide on everything, but he compares his constant attacks on the 05:12:45.860 --> 05:12:51.100 Democratic establishment to Donald Trump's insurgent takeover of the GOP a decade ago. 05:12:51.100 --> 05:12:55.140 You have to do something different, and this might just be enough just to shake things 05:12:55.140 --> 05:12:56.140 up. 05:12:56.140 --> 05:12:58.300 It's your favorite spot you've visited in Michigan so far. 05:12:58.300 --> 05:13:02.780 Jade Gray is 22 just a year out of college, but she's worked as a Democratic organizer 05:13:02.780 --> 05:13:08.460 for five years and helped her first campaign at age 12 in 2016. 05:13:08.460 --> 05:13:11.780 I think we're seeing two paths emerge for the Democratic Party, and this is going to 05:13:11.780 --> 05:13:15.940 be one of a few examples of where we're really headed. 05:13:15.940 --> 05:13:18.380 Gray is from northern Michigan, Trump country. 05:13:18.380 --> 05:13:21.940 She predicts El Sayed will do well in the primary there. 05:13:21.940 --> 05:13:24.500 We are seeing the most engagement from Democrats 05:13:24.500 --> 05:13:26.220 than we've ever seen before in that area. 05:13:26.220 --> 05:13:29.780 Maybe this progressive mindset is Medicare for all, 05:13:29.780 --> 05:13:32.020 money out of politics isn't so radical 05:13:32.020 --> 05:13:33.180 and could work for us. 05:13:33.180 --> 05:13:36.340 Gray takes El Sayed's side of the Israel divide. 05:13:36.340 --> 05:13:40.900 One is an APEC backed candidate who is unapologetically pro 05:13:40.900 --> 05:13:43.700 thank you israel and you know 05:13:43.700 --> 05:13:46.100 very critical of netanyahu 05:13:46.100 --> 05:13:48.260 john 05:13:48.260 --> 05:13:52.580 what the fuck 05:13:52.580 --> 05:13:57.140 brother give me a fucking break dude 05:13:57.140 --> 05:14:03.380 oh my god dude oh my god brother what the fuck 05:14:03.380 --> 05:14:08.740 dude this feedback is unbelievable it's like well you know 05:14:08.740 --> 05:14:11.940 You know Hailey Stevens hates Benjamin and Yahu, I mean, go on. 05:14:14.740 --> 05:14:22.020 Are you there to, to pull the people? Are you there to, to stump for Hailey Stevens? 05:14:27.940 --> 05:14:32.660 Dog, she got $34 million from APEC. It doesn't matter what she's saying about Benjamin and Yahu. 05:14:32.660 --> 05:14:35.780 What the fuck are you talking about? It's fake. It's fake. It's fake. 05:14:35.780 --> 05:14:43.020 Can we weigh things evenly? What do you think matters more with her decision-making when it comes to Israel? 05:14:43.020 --> 05:14:51.540 $34 million from the Israel lobby or what she once said about Benjamin Netanyahu when she's also said this? 05:14:51.540 --> 05:14:53.980 Israel comes to me in my dreams! 05:14:53.980 --> 05:14:56.340 It's so fucking stupid. 05:14:56.340 --> 05:15:05.860 She's critical of Nanyahu, I appreciate that, but who she's funded by, I don't think walks 05:15:05.860 --> 05:15:07.180 that walk. 05:15:07.180 --> 05:15:12.660 I like seeing a candidate who's unapologetically anti-Zionist. 05:15:12.660 --> 05:15:13.660 Let's go. 05:15:13.660 --> 05:15:14.660 We got it, Gellan. 05:15:14.660 --> 05:15:20.300 Rob Lippitt is more than patient with a pickleball novice, and he is more than anxious about 05:15:20.300 --> 05:15:21.300 this primary. 05:15:21.300 --> 05:15:22.300 Oh, here we go. 05:15:22.300 --> 05:15:23.300 Here we go. 05:15:23.300 --> 05:15:24.300 Here we go. 05:15:24.300 --> 05:15:29.980 creating witness tests suggesting that Israel shouldn't exist or being unwilling as I'll say I just 05:15:30.780 --> 05:15:36.060 Dude John King Znn. Oh my fucking lordy lord 05:15:37.100 --> 05:15:43.020 Bro went to the pickleball court in this dude's backyard to talk about how fucking anxious this guy is 05:15:43.500 --> 05:15:47.260 That scary musliman could potentially win the election 05:15:49.820 --> 05:15:52.460 Will will he push back on mr. Pickle 05:15:52.460 --> 05:16:07.460 Will you push back on Mr. Pickle? I want to hear, I want to hear if, if, if John King has a, has a similar approach to this, to affirm the idea that Israel has a right to exist as a state doesn't move us closer to peace. 05:16:07.460 --> 05:16:08.460 the piece. 05:16:08.460 --> 05:16:11.140 Lipitz, he's al-sayed, is part of a broader, troubling- 05:16:11.140 --> 05:16:12.140 Wait, John! 05:16:12.140 --> 05:16:13.140 Johnny, baby! 05:16:13.140 --> 05:16:19.420 Why didn't you fucking be like, well, you know, Abdul al-sayed has talked almost entirely 05:16:19.420 --> 05:16:20.580 about APEC funding. 05:16:20.580 --> 05:16:23.940 Does that not concern you? 05:16:23.940 --> 05:16:26.220 Really? 05:16:26.220 --> 05:16:27.820 No response. 05:16:27.820 --> 05:16:30.820 No response to Mr. Pickle. 05:16:30.820 --> 05:16:32.020 No response to Mr. Pickle. 05:16:32.020 --> 05:16:34.420 No pushback to Mr. Pickle. 05:16:34.420 --> 05:16:36.980 Why is Mr. Pickle getting zero pushback? 05:16:36.980 --> 05:16:38.980 Hmm 05:16:40.420 --> 05:16:44.100 Yeah, two UAW opto supporters and a millionaire Stephen supporter hmm 05:16:47.540 --> 05:16:52.220 Democratic shift the socialist drift of the party and the hard line and 05:16:52.700 --> 05:16:56.980 Somewhat radical positions that they take are not good for the state or good for the country 05:16:57.740 --> 05:17:00.800 He loads Trump and wants a Democratic Senate 05:17:00.800 --> 05:17:08.680 But lipid says he and many other Jewish voters will face a painful choice if al-sayed wins the prime. Oh, shut the fuck up, dude 05:17:08.840 --> 05:17:10.840 This is oh 05:17:10.840 --> 05:17:14.800 God, I hate this shit so much, dude. I hate it so much 05:17:16.840 --> 05:17:22.200 It's not a fucking painful choice at all man you either hate fascism and you hate it unconditionally 05:17:22.840 --> 05:17:24.840 Or you care about 05:17:24.840 --> 05:17:31.740 Fascism in the country only to a certain degree as long as it still allows fascism to take place in Israel 05:17:32.520 --> 05:17:34.280 Okay 05:17:34.280 --> 05:17:36.280 That's it 05:17:38.400 --> 05:17:42.400 Right, I think there are a lot of people that won't vote for else. I add are you one of them? 05:17:43.560 --> 05:17:52.160 Probably I don't feel like that. Why is this never? Why is this shit never treated like Bernard supporters by the way? Oh 05:17:52.160 --> 05:17:59.080 Oh, you say you don't want to vote for blue, no matter who. How come, how come if you're 05:17:59.080 --> 05:18:05.880 pro-Israel, you get to be as critical as you want of the Democratic Party's choice. 05:18:05.880 --> 05:18:12.960 If your guy or your gal, your Israel fester, doesn't get the fucking nominee, you're not 05:18:12.960 --> 05:18:17.320 going to vote for Abdul Al Sayyed. You're going to allow Republican fascism to take 05:18:17.320 --> 05:18:23.720 shape in this country. How is this, why is it that this is always just the Bernard brothers 05:18:23.720 --> 05:18:29.960 that whose votes are taken for fucking granted. But when it comes to people who actually destroy 05:18:29.960 --> 05:18:33.640 the vote blue, no matter who I'm gonna withhold my vote, I'm gonna withhold my support in the 05:18:33.640 --> 05:18:40.600 general. If the scary Muslim wins is not treated with the same like racism is not treated with 05:18:40.600 --> 05:18:45.960 the same critical lens that this is like unbelievably fucking racist. Yeah, it's quit. It's crazy how 05:18:45.960 --> 05:18:48.960 quickly the center killed vote blue no matter who as soon as they started losing 05:18:48.960 --> 05:18:52.960 primaries yeah it's gone 05:18:53.960 --> 05:18:57.560 it's gone now it's over 05:19:03.160 --> 05:19:09.680 the Democratic Party is a safe space Traverse City is along the spectacular 05:19:09.680 --> 05:19:15.560 Lake Michigan population 16,000 northern Michigan is mostly rural in every way 05:19:15.560 --> 05:19:20.500 way, a long way from Detroit and its suburbs. 05:19:20.500 --> 05:19:28.280 Ashley Ayala lives in a town of 1,500 people, works for a non-profit conservation group. 05:19:28.280 --> 05:19:32.320 These goats working one section at a time to clear rural land. 05:19:32.320 --> 05:19:34.080 What do you want from the Democratic Party? 05:19:34.080 --> 05:19:35.080 What's missing? 05:19:35.080 --> 05:19:36.080 Oh. 05:19:36.080 --> 05:19:41.120 That's an anti-data center voter right there. 05:19:41.120 --> 05:19:43.880 I'm clocking it. 05:19:43.880 --> 05:19:45.080 Don't know where this goes. 05:19:45.080 --> 05:19:50.360 Don't even care what she says. I know when I see him. Okay that right there 05:19:50.680 --> 05:19:56.440 No matter what she says the John King no matter what made it to the editing floor what made it out of the editing floor 05:19:56.440 --> 05:20:02.080 I know for a fact as an anti-data center voter like that's her primary focus 05:20:07.360 --> 05:20:09.360 Where do I start 05:20:09.360 --> 05:20:10.360 Look at it all day. 05:20:10.360 --> 05:20:11.900 Oh, diabetic health care. 05:20:11.900 --> 05:20:14.760 Health care and child care costs are her biggest stresses, 05:20:14.760 --> 05:20:17.160 and she likes what she hears from El Sayed there. 05:20:17.160 --> 05:20:18.960 But Stevens has appealed too. 05:20:18.960 --> 05:20:21.760 Ayala thinks her experience might help get things done. 05:20:21.760 --> 05:20:24.160 Sometimes thanks, her more moderate views 05:20:24.160 --> 05:20:26.280 might help in November, especially 05:20:26.280 --> 05:20:27.760 in rural areas like this. 05:20:27.760 --> 05:20:33.560 When it comes down to pen to paper, it'll be, yes, 05:20:33.560 --> 05:20:38.000 it'll end up being who has a better chance at winning. 05:20:38.000 --> 05:20:45.280 Yes, Abdul El Sayed is that guy. Abdul El Sayed is that guy. Hailey Stevens is not that gal. 05:20:46.720 --> 05:20:48.080 Consultant Brain, by the way. 05:20:52.880 --> 05:21:00.640 Consultant Brain, once again. Well, I really like Abdul El Sayed, but what if other people don't? 05:21:00.640 --> 05:21:05.840 Well, how about we just vote for people we like going forward? How about we do that? 05:21:05.840 --> 05:21:10.080 Because if you like something about him, other people are probably gonna like the same things 05:21:10.080 --> 05:21:20.480 about him. It's just that you have been broken down, okay? You have been broken down and intellectually 05:21:20.480 --> 05:21:29.040 brutalized for so many years. You've been duped into believing that other people don't agree 05:21:29.040 --> 05:21:36.480 with some of the qualities that you like about a particular candidate. They do. Okay. They 05:21:36.480 --> 05:21:43.000 do. That's why I'll do less 10,000 volunteers. And Haley Stevens says 80, not 80,000, just 05:21:43.000 --> 05:21:44.000 eight zero. Okay. 05:21:44.000 --> 05:21:50.200 You're not sure that is right. I don't. I have no clue. You see yourself as kind of 05:21:50.200 --> 05:21:55.520 a referee, one of the referees, the voters in kind of a democratic civil war or family 05:21:55.520 --> 05:22:03.840 I've always been a referee my entire life um yeah iala knows it's a giant choice for michigan and beyond 05:22:04.720 --> 05:22:12.320 and there's just a bit more time to chew it over john kink cnn maple city michigan 05:22:17.760 --> 05:22:23.840 yeah debate night tomorrow by the way debate night tomorrow meanwhile uh donald trump all right 05:22:23.840 --> 05:22:29.280 We're getting to finally the thing that all of you have been waiting for excitedly. Okay. 05:22:30.000 --> 05:22:35.120 Situation monitoring. But before we do that, here's Adam Carlson's take. Michigan is the most 05:22:35.120 --> 05:22:38.400 win race. If Democrats want to take back the majority, stall Trump's agenda and block his 05:22:38.400 --> 05:22:42.480 judicial nominees during his final two years in office and build towards a democratic trifecta 05:22:42.480 --> 05:22:46.480 in 2029. If you are a prominent Democrat and you refuse to back the nominee just because 05:22:46.480 --> 05:22:49.520 you're preferred candidate loss in the primary, then it's abundantly clear that you care more 05:22:49.520 --> 05:22:52.480 about your petty grievances than actually helping the people who are suffering the most in this 05:22:52.480 --> 05:22:57.040 this country under the Trump regime. It means you are myopic selfishness. 05:22:57.040 --> 05:22:59.480 Seriously, this applies to outside supporters of Steven wins the primary. 05:22:59.480 --> 05:23:01.880 This applies to Steven supporters of outside wins the primary. 05:23:02.440 --> 05:23:04.200 Well, that is, well, there is truth to that. 05:23:04.240 --> 05:23:06.480 Ultimately, you can't expect people to fuck and vote. 05:23:08.240 --> 05:23:12.400 I say this about the people who have postured vote blue, no matter who, 05:23:12.720 --> 05:23:15.640 as long as the Democrats also maintain a pro Israel attitude. 05:23:15.640 --> 05:23:17.520 And now they're changing their calculation. 05:23:17.520 --> 05:23:21.040 Once there are some Democrats who are not pro Israel unconditionally. 05:23:22.480 --> 05:23:37.960 Okay. Ultimately, you got to win over those voters. You got to win over those voters. If you are a Democrat, though, if you are a prominent Democratic Party politician saying this shit, well, then you're fucked. 05:23:38.360 --> 05:23:52.440 You should be fucked. Bernie has never done this. Okay. Bernie has never done this. And at most, though, the one Democrat who had every right to do this for Kamala did not speak out. 05:23:52.480 --> 05:23:57.240 And that was where she did to leave as a Palestinian as a Palestinian woman 05:23:57.760 --> 05:24:03.960 She watched her people get slaughtered by the administration whose party she was a part of and 05:24:04.640 --> 05:24:07.860 She just sat it out. She didn't say anything, right? 05:24:08.640 --> 05:24:11.360 She was pro uncommitted movement, which is you know, I 05:24:12.520 --> 05:24:16.680 Obviously respect that in the primaries and she didn't say anything in the general. I 05:24:19.480 --> 05:24:21.480 Think that's pretty valid 05:24:22.480 --> 05:24:29.560 What is this? 05:24:29.560 --> 05:24:37.360 The cracks in the grift are showing, but face Fanny Slammer, 20,550 people are not doing 05:24:37.360 --> 05:24:39.120 enough to help the cause while watching the stream. 05:24:39.120 --> 05:24:43.120 If any of us really care, we close the stream and go out and do something, grift alert. 05:24:43.120 --> 05:24:44.960 Just trying to keep it real, mate. 05:24:44.960 --> 05:24:45.960 You're right. 05:24:45.960 --> 05:24:51.840 Famously, we don't do anything about making necessary changes in the world of American 05:24:51.840 --> 05:25:07.400 politics. Thank you for calling us out chatter. If we weren't doing shit, Fox News would be 05:25:07.400 --> 05:25:14.960 welcome. If we weren't doing shit, Fox News would be complaining. Non-stop. Y'all humping 05:25:14.960 --> 05:25:20.920 on the tour? What is this? Am I insane or is the dry humping fans on stage trend so fucking 05:25:20.920 --> 05:25:25.080 I told you, I'll fear and lie was a bad idea. Yeah, we're dry humping 05:25:32.080 --> 05:25:38.180 Yeah, you could say that about a lot of like online political communities, but this is probably the one community 05:25:38.180 --> 05:25:40.180 You can't really say that about 05:25:40.540 --> 05:25:41.940 but 05:25:41.940 --> 05:25:44.340 I'll chalk that up to you. Just simply didn't know 05:25:48.200 --> 05:25:50.400 Chatter who had this complaint 05:25:50.920 --> 05:25:52.920 I'm just going to assume that you didn't know. 05:26:07.920 --> 05:26:11.920 All right. Let's get to... 05:26:11.920 --> 05:26:24.400 Let's get to Prime Minister Benjamin Nyahu, who is very upset, situation monitoring, the 05:26:24.400 --> 05:26:28.560 Strait of Hormuz is still closed. 05:26:28.560 --> 05:26:34.200 And the Babel Mandip Strait is also partially closed as well. 05:26:34.200 --> 05:26:40.480 The Yonsaralaw Movement is pummeling the Yambu port that Saudi Arabia is currently 05:26:40.480 --> 05:26:47.360 utilizing to transit oil tankers through the Red Sea. 05:26:47.360 --> 05:26:55.720 Their route was going through the Bhabi Wandev around the African continent, and now they 05:26:55.720 --> 05:26:58.600 are not able to do so. 05:26:58.600 --> 05:27:05.000 And on top of that, their refinery is on fire. 05:27:05.000 --> 05:27:11.840 The Anzala movement struck back against Saudi Arabia by hitting an Aramco refinery, and 05:27:11.840 --> 05:27:16.360 the situation is becoming untenable. 05:27:16.360 --> 05:27:23.120 In the process, Donald Trump said that he would punish Iran more viciously than he's 05:27:23.120 --> 05:27:25.360 ever done so. 05:27:25.360 --> 05:27:32.120 And yet, after 13 days of tit for tat strikes, back and forth strikes, Donald Trump mysteriously 05:27:32.120 --> 05:27:41.800 paused. The American operations on Iran for two nights in a row. Oh, it's this guy unfollow. 05:27:45.320 --> 05:27:45.800 Strange. 05:27:54.040 --> 05:27:59.320 Don't understand why people follow forget that they followed and go 05:27:59.320 --> 05:28:08.480 So, block man, it's time to unfollow this guy, it's terrible. 05:28:08.480 --> 05:28:17.880 Maybe he didn't recognize me without the beard. 05:28:17.880 --> 05:28:24.880 Perhaps that's the case. 05:28:24.880 --> 05:28:36.160 Anyway, Netanyahu, of course, in the brief pause for the strikes against Iran, has decided 05:28:36.160 --> 05:28:40.200 to come and meet with Trump amid the war in Iran. 05:28:40.200 --> 05:28:44.760 For now, after two weeks of trading lethal strikes back and forth overnight, U.S. and 05:28:44.760 --> 05:28:47.600 Iranian weapons were quiet. 05:28:47.600 --> 05:28:49.400 Potensions remain high in the region. 05:28:49.400 --> 05:28:53.680 U.S. Central Command saying it boarded a ship Sunday in the Arabian Sea on suspicion of 05:28:53.680 --> 05:28:59.640 violating the U.S. blockade of Iran, before ultimately letting that ship go. 05:28:59.640 --> 05:29:04.280 And in the nearby Red Sea, the Houthi rebels, Iran's proxy group in Yemen, opening up a 05:29:04.280 --> 05:29:09.920 new front, targeting Saudi oil exports, claiming they hit state-run oil operations in the Saudi 05:29:09.920 --> 05:29:10.920 Kingdom. 05:29:10.920 --> 05:29:15.200 This week, declaring a maritime blockade on Saudi-linked shipping in the Red Sea's Babel 05:29:15.200 --> 05:29:20.040 Mandeb Strait, a vital trade route, Saudi Arabia releasing this video of what it says 05:29:20.040 --> 05:29:25.360 are their patrols, the Saudi military carrying out attacks of its own on Houthi targets inside 05:29:25.360 --> 05:29:26.360 Yemen. 05:29:26.360 --> 05:29:29.720 President Trump, meeting with his national security team on Friday, to discuss next 05:29:29.720 --> 05:29:33.640 steps, saying this week he's considering a massive attack on Iran. 05:29:33.640 --> 05:29:34.640 It's two ways. 05:29:34.640 --> 05:29:40.520 I mean, it's you can just keep doing exactly what we're doing and take them apart piece 05:29:40.520 --> 05:29:41.680 by piece. 05:29:41.680 --> 05:29:47.480 We could do it in a more rapid fashion, which we might do, or we can negotiate with them, 05:29:47.480 --> 05:29:49.280 which we're also doing right now. 05:29:49.280 --> 05:29:53.320 This all comes just days before Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu heads to the White 05:29:53.320 --> 05:29:55.640 House Tuesday to meet with President Trump. 05:29:55.640 --> 05:30:00.240 Their first face-to-face since his February visit, where he argued for the joint U.S.-Israeli 05:30:00.240 --> 05:30:05.200 attacks on Iran days before the start of the war. 05:30:05.200 --> 05:30:08.400 So just how much we should read into this pause and the fighting remains unclear, but 05:30:08.400 --> 05:30:12.640 what is completely clear is that this entire region remains on edge. 05:30:12.640 --> 05:30:13.640 Geo. 05:30:13.640 --> 05:30:16.160 All right, Matt Rivers, thank you so much for your reporting there. 05:30:16.160 --> 05:30:29.680 All right, the real president is back and he's ready to chirp at the bullshit Americans 05:30:29.680 --> 05:30:33.480 who aren't doing enough to defend Israel's interests. 05:30:33.480 --> 05:30:39.820 The real president of the United States of America is back to demand that Americans 05:30:39.820 --> 05:30:42.920 die at Israel's behest. 05:30:42.920 --> 05:30:48.880 enough Americans have died yet, more Americans must die. So that Israel can take out a major 05:30:48.880 --> 05:30:52.040 player in the region. 05:30:52.040 --> 05:30:55.760 But before we do that, I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Trump restarted this Iran 05:30:55.760 --> 05:31:01.400 war right after massage new chief visited Washington. This was of course a new reporting 05:31:01.400 --> 05:31:06.360 that came out earlier this week. The new director of Israel's massage spy agency, Roman Goffman 05:31:06.360 --> 05:31:10.000 visited Washington two weeks ago for talks about the war in Iran and the Iranian nuclear 05:31:10.000 --> 05:31:17.000 program you met with CIA director Radcliffe and White House of Visuals. 05:31:40.000 --> 05:31:44.000 I certainly, no I'm not concerned and I certainly intend to do so. 05:31:44.000 --> 05:31:49.200 I've appeared just about every year, not every year, but almost every year in my prime 05:31:49.200 --> 05:31:51.760 ministership, unless there are security conditions. 05:31:51.760 --> 05:31:57.480 But barring that, and I don't expect that to be the case this time, yes I do intend 05:31:57.480 --> 05:32:00.120 to come to New York. 05:32:00.120 --> 05:32:06.240 The International Criminal Court issued arrest warrants for you and your former defense minister 05:32:06.240 --> 05:32:07.400 for genocide. 05:32:07.400 --> 05:32:09.240 What is your response to this? 05:32:09.240 --> 05:32:16.240 Well, the one who promoted that was the ICC, the International Criminal Court Prosecutor, 05:32:16.240 --> 05:32:21.700 who has since been completely exposed as a criminal. 05:32:21.700 --> 05:32:28.080 He himself was accused, was going to face charges of sexual harassment by two women. 05:32:28.080 --> 05:32:29.560 He knew that. 05:32:29.560 --> 05:32:34.000 And he was going to come to Israel, and he spoke warmly about Israel's judicial system 05:32:34.000 --> 05:32:39.520 and the fact that there has to be an extensive investigation before any conclusions are gone. 05:32:39.520 --> 05:32:44.320 And on the day that he was supposed to visit Israel, he canceled everything, called the news 05:32:44.320 --> 05:32:49.120 conference, and accused me and the former defense minister of the war crimes. Now, 05:32:49.120 --> 05:32:56.240 we've learned why, because a few days before that, he was basically confronted by his chief of staff 05:32:56.240 --> 05:33:01.280 who said, you know, these two employers, employees of you, female employees of yours, 05:33:01.280 --> 05:33:07.360 are going to charge you with the sexual wasn't con appointed by israel uh yes con was uh presented 05:33:07.360 --> 05:33:14.720 by israel as a reliable substitute but of course one once he started doing his fucking job immediately 05:33:14.720 --> 05:33:22.560 oh oh he's a rapist he's a rapist yeah for the record okay i'm sorry if you believe any of this 05:33:22.560 --> 05:33:28.400 shit if you believe this to be anything but a honeypot operation you are the biggest sucker of all 05:33:28.400 --> 05:33:36.040 time if you were to come around and try to tell me at all that there is even 05:33:36.040 --> 05:33:45.020 remotely any fucking explanation here beyond Israel 100% honey potted the 05:33:45.020 --> 05:33:52.160 living fuck out of Karim Khan for prosecuting Israel I'm sorry you are the 05:33:52.160 --> 05:34:04.160 most delusional rube of all time. Okay. Look, there are situations where there are credible 05:34:04.160 --> 05:34:12.400 sexual assault allegations, credible sexual harassment allegations. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm 05:34:12.400 --> 05:34:19.760 sorry. Go ahead. Do your fucking girl boss feminism on me. I am not entertaining this 05:34:19.760 --> 05:34:34.360 at all. Sorry. It's fucking bullshit. Okay? It is fucking bullshit. There is 0% chance. 05:34:34.360 --> 05:34:38.760 And if you think this is not an exceptional case, if you think this is like, oh, you're 05:34:38.760 --> 05:34:45.240 not taking, you know, rape seriously here, they're not taking it fucking seriously. They're 05:34:45.240 --> 05:34:54.120 literally taking victory laps over here. Okay. I'm sorry. It's fucking bullshit. And there 05:34:54.120 --> 05:35:00.640 will be more information that comes out about how fucking bullshit this is in, you know, 05:35:00.640 --> 05:35:02.840 in some time. 05:35:02.840 --> 05:35:09.840 Yeah. Con was removed for his misconduct, which jeopardized the important effort to 05:35:09.840 --> 05:35:12.680 prosecute Netanyahu and others really. This is the international criminal court needs 05:35:12.680 --> 05:35:16.620 incredible chief prosecutor, not con. It's important not to give up on the IC, but to 05:35:16.620 --> 05:35:27.360 ensure no, but to ensure that no litmus test is applied to the new chief justice candidates. 05:35:27.360 --> 05:35:30.880 We don't want anyone who will do the equivalent of immediately stopping the investigation 05:35:30.880 --> 05:35:34.000 of Bush era, torture and Afghanistan or to slow walk the investigation of Israeli official 05:35:34.000 --> 05:35:39.920 until Israel's genocidal response to October seven, made that no longer possible, please 05:35:39.920 --> 05:35:43.600 was removed by diplomats casting a political vote in contradiction of the judges who found 05:35:43.600 --> 05:35:47.560 no misconduct. They seized an opportunity to remove a thorn on their side. They will 05:35:47.560 --> 05:35:52.480 not select another thorn now. This case was hijacked by the states, and some were okay 05:35:52.480 --> 05:35:59.720 with that. Okay? This same, do you know something we don't? I guess I have brain cells that 05:35:59.720 --> 05:36:04.640 you guys don't have. Okay? I guess I have brain cells that you guys don't have. They 05:36:04.640 --> 05:36:11.560 They have been actively spying on the previous ICC prosecutor, and they sanctioned the previous 05:36:11.560 --> 05:36:12.960 ICC prosecutor. 05:36:12.960 --> 05:36:13.960 What are we talking about? 05:36:13.960 --> 05:36:16.960 For fucking investigating Israel, okay? 05:36:16.960 --> 05:36:18.200 Are you insane? 05:36:18.200 --> 05:36:20.800 The previous ICC prosecutor was a woman. 05:36:20.800 --> 05:36:23.200 So they went after her husband, okay? 05:36:23.200 --> 05:36:27.280 They didn't get the honey potter, they didn't get to fucking be like, oh, she's a rapist 05:36:27.280 --> 05:36:31.120 or anything, but they very clearly spied on her. 05:36:31.120 --> 05:36:32.560 We know this. 05:36:32.560 --> 05:36:34.120 We know this, okay? 05:36:34.120 --> 05:36:41.440 They spied on her. They spied on all of her communications. They intercepted all of her communicates, and they were designing 05:36:43.040 --> 05:36:46.160 prosecutorial cases in Israel specifically around 05:36:47.280 --> 05:36:49.040 the the 05:36:49.040 --> 05:36:53.040 What's the word complementarity? No, I'm using 05:36:54.360 --> 05:36:58.580 There's a word for when the ICC steps in when 05:36:58.580 --> 05:37:05.540 Then normal democracies, which Israel is seemingly a part of this concept, but when normal democracies 05:37:05.540 --> 05:37:12.160 don't actually prosecute their war crimes, complementarity, under the binding agreement 05:37:12.160 --> 05:37:19.040 of complementarity, when Israel does not prosecute its own set of war crimes, the ICC has to 05:37:19.040 --> 05:37:21.040 kick in. 05:37:21.040 --> 05:37:27.540 So what Israel would do was they infiltrated and intercepted her communications, and whatever 05:37:27.540 --> 05:37:32.340 issue that she was investigating, like let's say there's a rape case in the West Bank, right? 05:37:32.340 --> 05:37:37.940 Let's say there's a rape case in the Israeli occupying forces against the Palestinian prisoner, 05:37:37.940 --> 05:37:43.700 right? And when she would investigate that stuff and she would be on the phone asking questions 05:37:43.700 --> 05:37:49.060 about it, Mossad, which had intercepted her communications, would go back to the Israeli 05:37:49.060 --> 05:37:53.300 government and say, this is what they're looking into. We have to prosecute this. 05:37:53.300 --> 05:37:57.620 An example of this already took place with the pro-rape riots in Israel. 05:37:57.620 --> 05:38:04.100 The reason why Israel actually went after the six state Taimon concentration camp guards 05:38:04.100 --> 05:38:09.700 for raping prisoners to death, sometimes in front of CCTV camera footage, was specifically 05:38:09.700 --> 05:38:13.940 so that they could kick in complementarity so they could say, this is not in the jurisdiction 05:38:13.940 --> 05:38:19.060 of the International Criminal Court because we are clearly prosecuting ourselves, okay? 05:38:20.420 --> 05:38:20.980 That's it. 05:38:20.980 --> 05:38:27.680 it. That's what complementarity is, where normal democratic Western countries, as long 05:38:27.680 --> 05:38:32.120 as they prosecute their own war crimes, the International Criminal Court can't prosecute 05:38:32.120 --> 05:38:33.120 them. 05:38:33.120 --> 05:38:38.760 But because Israel is so unaccountable, Israel is so used to behaving with impunity, they 05:38:38.760 --> 05:38:47.040 don't give a fuck. So they try to use complementarity as a shield to prosecute internally some of 05:38:47.040 --> 05:38:53.280 war crimes that the ICC is looking into. This is what they did with the previous IC prosecutor 05:38:54.320 --> 05:39:00.640 before Kareem Khan. Then they also got Trump in the first Trump term to sanction the ICC 05:39:00.640 --> 05:39:05.520 prosecutor. They've done this with ICJ prosecutors as well, International Court of Justice prosecutors. 05:39:05.520 --> 05:39:10.800 And they've done this with ICC judges and prosecutors as well, okay? 05:39:17.040 --> 05:39:27.660 So, I'm sorry, but if you were to look at that guy who is, who is, is tasked with one 05:39:27.660 --> 05:39:34.640 of the most important criminal prosecutions of our generation, and magically, magically 05:39:34.640 --> 05:39:38.600 all of a sudden he's considered a sex pest out of fucking nowhere. 05:39:38.600 --> 05:39:42.520 I think it was like one of his staffers or something that he may or may not have had 05:39:42.520 --> 05:39:44.040 a consensual affair with. 05:39:44.040 --> 05:39:48.320 I'm not entirely certain about the details, but it doesn't even fucking matter, okay? 05:39:48.320 --> 05:39:53.400 If you think that he just out of the blue became a rapist the moment that he fucking 05:39:53.400 --> 05:39:58.640 started prosecuting Israel, you are the biggest fucking rub of all time, okay? 05:39:58.640 --> 05:40:00.640 You are the biggest fucking rub of all time. 05:40:00.640 --> 05:40:08.000 There is not a single person in any international criminal court or in any international organizing 05:40:08.000 --> 05:40:12.320 body that hasn't been fucking destroyed by Israel. 05:40:12.320 --> 05:40:15.520 It could be Francesca Albanese, for example, who's responsible. 05:40:15.520 --> 05:40:20.880 The special rapporteur for the occupied Palestinian territories, Francesca Albanese, has been 05:40:20.880 --> 05:40:23.880 openly sanctioned by banks, debanked. 05:40:23.880 --> 05:40:29.080 Her husband and her children have been kicked out of their fucking schools and shit. 05:40:29.080 --> 05:40:33.520 And you're going to sit here and act like this is a real situation, is a real story. 05:40:33.520 --> 05:40:36.400 Get the fuck out of here. 05:40:36.400 --> 05:40:39.480 And his own judges did not find anything, okay? 05:40:39.480 --> 05:40:49.080 own judges did not find any misconduct, but they still removed him nonetheless. 05:40:49.080 --> 05:40:53.120 But the reality is, if there were issues with the OIOS fact finding, then the correct course 05:40:53.120 --> 05:40:57.000 of action was to send it back to the OIOS and make a new legal determination. 05:40:57.000 --> 05:40:58.000 But that took too long. 05:40:58.000 --> 05:41:01.000 States needed to get rid of him now. 05:41:01.000 --> 05:41:03.040 And so this charade of a vote was concocted. 05:41:03.040 --> 05:41:05.640 I do not see this as due process or as justice for anyone involved. 05:41:05.640 --> 05:41:09.040 It is a bad precedent for future cases of sexual misconduct, because now a bunch of 05:41:09.040 --> 05:41:13.600 diplomats can clear someone guilty at the last minute, just as they remove someone who 05:41:13.600 --> 05:41:17.800 was cleared. Now it's also about precedent for Palestinians whose case was obviously 05:41:17.800 --> 05:41:22.080 tampered with. Israel has plain much admitted, Israel's pretty much admitted involvement 05:41:22.080 --> 05:41:26.880 in building a coalition to remove con and will now likely slowly die. Pretending the 05:41:26.880 --> 05:41:31.480 ICC will now find a super prosecutor with lots of teeth and grit does nothing. It won't 05:41:31.480 --> 05:41:35.440 the ship has sailed. If this has gone back to the OIOS, the judge has reexamined and 05:41:35.440 --> 05:41:38.740 concluded misconduct, then this would have been a legitimate process. And Khan would 05:41:38.740 --> 05:41:42.140 be to blame and would have to answer to the Palestinians for his actions. That is not 05:41:42.140 --> 05:41:47.420 what happened. Others will have to answer to them. 05:41:47.420 --> 05:41:52.020 Is this being talked about in real news or only Twitter posts? I mean, real news covered 05:41:52.020 --> 05:41:58.980 it. Real news covered it because of course, you know, they're rejoicing. This is a huge 05:41:58.980 --> 05:42:09.940 blow. ICC judge admitted she was pressured. Oh, this is, uh, this is the former ICC chief. 05:42:10.740 --> 05:42:15.780 Yes. Fatou Ben-Suda. This is the lady I was talking about. Fatou Ben-Suda, who led the 05:42:15.780 --> 05:42:20.100 international body from 2012 to 2021, said that two men with ties to Israel came to her house in 05:42:20.100 --> 05:42:24.900 the Hague after she opened the investigation in 2015 in order to intimidate her. I felt left alone. 05:42:24.900 --> 05:42:29.380 I felt unsupported. Ben Suda also said that Mossad repeatedly pressured her to drop the 05:42:29.380 --> 05:42:33.300 investigation during official meetings with the chief of the Israeli spy agency. What was clear 05:42:33.940 --> 05:42:37.620 was that he didn't want an investigation on Palestine to go on, Ben Suda said. Also, 05:42:37.620 --> 05:42:40.980 there are even authorities of some countries that have appealed to me. You really need to stop. 05:42:40.980 --> 05:42:44.420 This is going very far. You could be harmed or you could be killed or family members could 05:42:44.420 --> 05:42:48.660 be harmed in some ways. But to me, it was out of the question Ben Suda asked, Ben Suda added. 05:42:48.660 --> 05:42:58.420 And yes, Karim Khan was the U.S. and Israel pick in 2021. They lobbied for him to get 05:42:58.420 --> 05:43:02.260 the job. And in return, he dropped the U.S. from his investigation of war crimes in Afghanistan 05:43:02.260 --> 05:43:06.740 and de-prioritized the Palestinian topic. As soon as he dared to go after Netanyahu, 05:43:06.740 --> 05:43:14.340 the ICC got sanctioned by the U.S., even their handpicked guy was like, enough is enough. 05:43:14.340 --> 05:43:19.060 We have to do something about this. And that was too much. That was a bridge too far. 05:43:19.700 --> 05:43:23.700 So they just fucking branded him as a rapist with fucking false allegations. 05:43:23.700 --> 05:43:30.900 And then the judges themselves found no fucking misconduct. Okay. But it didn't matter anyway, 05:43:30.900 --> 05:43:35.060 because they pressured enough of the diplomats to fucking remove him from his position. 05:43:35.060 --> 05:43:40.660 And then they also celebrated it. They took credit for it too. Here's, to no one's surprise, 05:43:40.660 --> 05:43:44.580 walsh journals rejoicing the removal of korean condis glee comes days after the wash journal 05:43:44.580 --> 05:43:48.740 ran mark of rubio's peace why we're dismantling the international criminal court i do wish cons 05:43:48.740 --> 05:43:53.060 vocal detractors would just be honest about the context after months of burying the accusations 05:43:53.060 --> 05:43:57.540 of more than two years of dithering the international criminal court is last at last fired as prosecutor 05:43:57.540 --> 05:44:10.900 Karim Khan. 05:44:10.900 --> 05:44:14.940 Israel taking credit for Karim Khan's removal. Against the backdrop of the dismissal of the 05:44:14.940 --> 05:44:18.260 International Criminal Court prosecutor Karim Khan, a senior Israeli official tells me that 05:44:18.260 --> 05:44:21.940 Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Sahr played an active role in the efforts to advance the 05:44:21.940 --> 05:44:25.860 move. According to the official, Sahr oversaw a dedicated task force and employed intensive 05:44:25.860 --> 05:44:28.580 diplomatic efforts aimed at securing cons removal from office. 05:44:44.580 --> 05:44:45.220 What is this? 05:44:46.300 --> 05:44:47.900 The APAC power rangers? 05:44:48.260 --> 05:44:49.140 What the fuck is this? 05:44:52.620 --> 05:44:53.180 Yeah, whatever. 05:44:53.180 --> 05:44:54.340 I don't care about this shit. 05:44:54.340 --> 05:44:56.340 I'm talking about something bigger now. 05:45:02.820 --> 05:45:08.180 Mark Ruffalo says just because you lobbied them to have the man who issued the war crimes taken down 05:45:08.620 --> 05:45:12.980 Doesn't mean the war crimes the spirit of guilt is as to aged you will not outrun justice 05:45:12.980 --> 05:45:17.700 You will not lobby history. You are a murderous maniac Benjamin and now you will always be remembered as such 05:45:18.540 --> 05:45:23.660 Yeah, I welcome the decision supported by overwhelming majority of countries to remove Korean Khan 05:45:23.660 --> 05:45:27.820 the prosecutor of the ICC. The decision exposes the truth. 05:45:27.820 --> 05:45:31.180 Karim Khan was accused of sexually harassing women who worked under him. It was precisely as 05:45:31.180 --> 05:45:34.780 these allegations emerged that he canceled his planned visit to Israel, abandoned his previous 05:45:34.780 --> 05:45:38.620 commitment to thoroughly examine Israel's independent judicial system, and suddenly moved 05:45:38.620 --> 05:45:43.660 to pursue arrest warrants against me and former Defense Minister Yuv Galan. He did so to divert 05:45:43.660 --> 05:45:46.940 attention from the allegations against him and to rally Israel's enemies around him as a political 05:45:46.940 --> 05:45:54.620 shield. That shield has now been torn away. It is fucking bullshit, okay? It is fucking 05:45:54.620 --> 05:46:00.380 bullshit and you are a goddamn sucker and a goddamn Rube. If you entertain this even 05:46:00.380 --> 05:46:08.580 for a fucking brief moment, that's it. That's it. They don't even like the whole of the 05:46:08.580 --> 05:46:12.540 ICC, the fact that they're focused solely on him, estranged me. No, because he's the, 05:46:12.540 --> 05:46:15.860 he's the one with the credibility. He's the ICC prosecutor. He was going to prosecute 05:46:15.860 --> 05:46:30.340 the fucking case. That's why. Yeah, Sarah alleged inappropriate behavior of another 05:46:30.340 --> 05:46:33.980 senior IC official also investigated and cleared before moving on to complain about con the 05:46:33.980 --> 05:46:38.420 independent judges panel and con disciplinary found no serious misconduct. The ASP vote is 05:46:38.420 --> 05:46:51.620 political. Yeah. I am a firm and committed believer that this is an Israeli operation. 05:46:51.620 --> 05:46:57.820 That's it. There's an Israeli and American operation at play here. They 100% set this 05:46:57.820 --> 05:47:04.740 dude up to be like, not only him, but anyone else that dare oppose Israel will be branded 05:47:04.740 --> 05:47:10.100 a fucking rapist or a murderer, they're just going to always tie you up with shit. And 05:47:10.100 --> 05:47:15.460 it doesn't fucking matter. Okay. This is gangsterism through and fucking through. 05:47:15.460 --> 05:47:22.180 Yeah. And of course, the vassals fall in line bizarrely. The Rubio State Department has 05:47:22.180 --> 05:47:26.500 made its war on the ICC a priority. The benefactor is Israel, the first countries that will surrender 05:47:26.500 --> 05:47:31.060 to this pressure are the vassal states. And of course, one of them is the interim president 05:47:31.060 --> 05:47:36.100 Delcey Rodriguez, who also cleared this decision. The U.S. welcomes the decision by interim 05:47:36.100 --> 05:47:40.500 president, Delcey Rodriguez in Venezuela to withdraw from the ICC and the new Venezuelan 05:47:40.500 --> 05:47:53.500 government's partnership on American led efforts. This may have a corrupt and worthless ICC. 05:47:53.500 --> 05:47:57.060 They put the guy with some dirt on him to lean into later. This was intentional. I think 05:47:57.060 --> 05:48:01.420 It's fucking bullshit because the quote unquote dirt is not even substantiated. 05:48:02.620 --> 05:48:03.380 You understand? 05:48:07.820 --> 05:48:12.580 Like there's dirt and then there's whatever this fucking thing is. 05:48:12.620 --> 05:48:13.140 Okay. 05:48:27.060 --> 05:48:40.060 Yeah, the ICC now has two paths before it, has only two paths before either it will demand 05:48:40.060 --> 05:48:43.300 that the I.C. states immediately take action individually and collectively extra the warrants 05:48:43.300 --> 05:48:48.460 for Netanyahu and Golan. Issue the additional warrants for other senior Israeli perpetrators. 05:48:48.460 --> 05:48:53.300 Add to the additional charge of genocide and act under Article 70 to punish U.S. U.K. Israeli 05:48:53.300 --> 05:48:57.060 actors that have obstructed justice or the court will fizzle out like a damp wick and 05:48:57.060 --> 05:49:01.940 cease to exist. Yes, it will take courage. It's going to fucking fizzle out. By the way, 05:49:01.940 --> 05:49:06.880 there's far too much pressure from the United States of America and all of its fucking 05:49:06.880 --> 05:49:12.620 dumbass vassals to destroy, to piece up and destroy the international criminal court. 05:49:12.620 --> 05:49:18.260 Okay. That's it. And it's not like China is going to fucking back it. Okay. There's who's 05:49:18.260 --> 05:49:22.900 Who's going to back the ICC? Who's going to back international stability, rule-based 05:49:22.900 --> 05:49:28.460 international order? Who is going to be the card carrier, the banner carrier of the international 05:49:28.460 --> 05:49:33.860 rule-based order? If America, which is the architect of this order, is not defending 05:49:33.860 --> 05:49:44.940 it, all of a sudden, when it impacts an American ally, a key American ally like Israel, there, 05:49:44.940 --> 05:49:49.940 No one is out there to defend it. 05:49:49.940 --> 05:49:54.020 Yes, it will take courage, but no other course will now salvage the course of legitimacy. 05:49:54.020 --> 05:49:55.940 The US-Israel axis wants them to fall. 05:49:55.940 --> 05:50:02.060 Will the ICC stand in fight or walk silently to the gallows? 05:50:02.060 --> 05:50:11.140 No other choices is now or never. 05:50:11.140 --> 05:50:13.580 Right in time for fucking World War 3. 05:50:13.580 --> 05:50:14.580 It's great. 05:50:14.580 --> 05:50:21.900 Yeah, if you can't win in the courts, attack the prosecutor and make sure it never gets 05:50:21.900 --> 05:50:22.900 to the courts. 05:50:22.900 --> 05:50:24.220 It's how you get around the justice system. 05:50:24.220 --> 05:50:25.740 Trump did it in Georgia with Fannie Willis. 05:50:25.740 --> 05:50:27.700 Now Netanyahu is doing it with ICC. 05:50:27.700 --> 05:50:29.700 I mean, this is gangsterism. 05:50:29.700 --> 05:50:32.580 I do want to add that Venezuela leaving the ICC likely does not have much to do with 05:50:32.580 --> 05:50:33.580 U.S. control. 05:50:33.580 --> 05:50:36.820 They've been under investigation for crimes against humanity under Khan and Ben Suda, 05:50:36.820 --> 05:50:37.940 but they've never been prosecuted. 05:50:37.940 --> 05:50:41.580 I suspect Rodriguez is concerned the next prosecutor may finally open the prosecution, 05:50:41.580 --> 05:50:43.460 so jump that before they could. 05:50:43.460 --> 05:50:46.740 I mean, I think that that pressure still stems from America. 05:50:46.740 --> 05:50:49.380 It's a nice little cherry on top. 05:50:49.380 --> 05:50:51.900 It reasserts American dominance. 05:50:51.900 --> 05:50:55.660 It shows that Venezuela is completely captive 05:50:55.660 --> 05:50:56.940 to American interests. 05:51:01.980 --> 05:51:03.060 Just in case you missed it, 05:51:03.060 --> 05:51:04.260 but this message describing the U.S. 05:51:04.260 --> 05:51:05.860 is no longer standing for human rights 05:51:05.860 --> 05:51:07.380 and that no one listens to her anymore 05:51:07.380 --> 05:51:09.420 was posted by official French government account. 05:51:09.420 --> 05:51:10.260 Yeah. 05:51:10.260 --> 05:51:12.260 Yeah. 05:51:12.260 --> 05:51:14.260 Yeah. 05:51:14.260 --> 05:51:42.580 kannathroth has his next victim after pushing for cons removed for months and months. 05:51:42.580 --> 05:51:46.260 Ken Ross, next target is Volker Turk, who will receive the Ken Ross treatment. 05:51:46.260 --> 05:51:51.460 Ross's campaign for Israeli impunity continues. Ken Ross will destroy anyone who even considers 05:51:51.460 --> 05:51:55.620 proskinthu perpetrators of the Zionist genocide. Yeah, former human rights watch executive director. 05:51:57.300 --> 05:52:01.220 Now that the ICC member states have done the right thing by dismissing Karim Khan, 05:52:01.220 --> 05:52:07.060 UN member states, by the way, Professor Kenneth Roth is a Professor of Prince University, 05:52:07.060 --> 05:52:14.180 former human rights watch executive director since 2022. Celebrating the decision that 05:52:14.180 --> 05:52:21.220 Kareem Khan was, uh, was, uh, ousted, then says UN members should not let Antonio Gutierrez railroad 05:52:21.220 --> 05:52:24.660 through the reappointment of Volker Terg is the high commissioner for human rights without a proper 05:52:24.660 --> 05:52:29.220 public debate, not just quiet consultation with governments, but also input from civil society. 05:52:29.220 --> 05:52:33.460 No high commissioners ever served a second four year term. It's a badge of dishonor that Turks 05:52:33.460 --> 05:52:48.740 first four years have been so timid that governments are willing to have him back for another four. 05:52:53.620 --> 05:52:58.900 I cannot believe that these like serial blackmailers get to do whatever the fuck they want and I 05:52:58.900 --> 05:53:03.940 And I guess, you know, it's America, so it's, uh, it's America's attack dog. 05:53:03.940 --> 05:53:05.980 So everybody gets to do whatever the fuck they want. 05:53:05.980 --> 05:53:06.980 Yeah. 05:53:06.980 --> 05:53:09.740 Thankfully, Volcker Turks survived the push against them for the US, Israel, Russia coalition. 05:53:09.740 --> 05:53:12.420 The only states that voted against them were client states. 05:53:12.420 --> 05:53:13.420 Yeah. 05:53:13.420 --> 05:53:20.740 Speaking of which, Haley Stevens also voted to sanction the ICC just so you understand. 05:53:20.740 --> 05:53:25.980 Voted to sanction the ICC Haley Stevens, Abdul al-Said's opponent, uh, in the Senate race 05:53:25.980 --> 05:53:31.980 literally sanctioned the motherfucking ICC, voted to sanction the ICC, the International 05:53:31.980 --> 05:53:34.100 Criminal Court. 05:53:34.100 --> 05:53:35.100 Disgusting. 05:53:35.100 --> 05:53:38.900 Do you think Netanyahu is guilty of any of the charges against him at the ICC? 05:53:38.900 --> 05:53:49.060 All adults, 45%, Democrats, 67%, independence, 46%, 18 to 29, 49%, 30 to 44, 50%, 45 to 64, 05:53:49.060 --> 05:53:53.060 Over 65, 39%. 05:53:59.060 --> 05:54:05.060 Not that it matters. The public opinion and the public approval obviously don't fucking matter. 05:54:13.060 --> 05:54:17.060 What is this? Not everyone is American. 05:54:17.060 --> 05:54:21.980 And if we're talking complicity, everyone's getting called out. 05:54:21.980 --> 05:54:25.580 I mean between China and the United States of America really like there's a level of 05:54:25.580 --> 05:54:29.700 complicity that you can point to. 05:54:29.700 --> 05:54:31.540 I do all the time. 05:54:31.540 --> 05:54:33.460 China is a major trade partner to Israel. 05:54:33.460 --> 05:54:37.260 China offers Israel surveillance technology to use on Palestinians in the West Bank. 05:54:37.260 --> 05:54:41.140 These are all real things, but it's like one is the United States of America that is entirely 05:54:41.140 --> 05:54:42.140 propped up Israel. 05:54:42.140 --> 05:54:52.900 The other one is just a global, major global power that is trying to invoke stability without disrupting American Empire too much. 05:54:54.940 --> 05:55:03.380 You know, they could be doing a lot more, they have a lot more power to pressure, they're not utilizing that power, I do agree with you on that. 05:55:04.140 --> 05:55:11.420 But, you know, they're not the ones who are fucking piecing up the ICC, they're not the ones who are sanctioning the ICC judges and shit. 05:55:12.140 --> 05:55:22.740 There is no country on this planet that offers Israel the level of support that the United 05:55:22.740 --> 05:55:23.940 States of America offers. 05:55:23.940 --> 05:55:26.700 And as a matter of fact, I'll take it one step further. 05:55:26.700 --> 05:55:30.620 If America didn't offer Israel this level of unlimited fealty and support, the other 05:55:30.620 --> 05:55:38.060 countries wouldn't either. 05:55:38.060 --> 05:55:44.460 the rest of the world treat Israel as a vestige of America as an extension of America. That's why 05:55:44.460 --> 05:55:49.980 they treat Israel with kitty gloves. That's it. The moment that America was draw support, 05:55:49.980 --> 05:55:57.900 the rest of the world would pounce on Israel. So he thought, how am I going to divert my criminality 05:55:57.900 --> 05:56:02.860 to something that will protect me? And the best way he thought was Israel bashing and frankly 05:56:02.860 --> 05:56:08.380 bashing me, and thereby getting the envelope, the protection of all the anti-Israel crowd. 05:56:08.380 --> 05:56:11.300 And that's basically what he did, and it worked for a while. 05:56:11.300 --> 05:56:18.340 But then the truth came out by various organizations, including the left-wing newspapers, The Guardian. 05:56:18.340 --> 05:56:22.020 And as it came out, he was basically, he lost his job. 05:56:22.020 --> 05:56:25.860 He thought, if there's an indictment, I'm going to have a job. 05:56:25.860 --> 05:56:30.280 There was an indictment, and he lost his job because he was removed by a vast majority 05:56:30.280 --> 05:56:32.500 of nations who knew that he was a con job. 05:56:32.500 --> 05:56:37.980 his name is Karim Khan, he pulled a con job on the international community with these bogus 05:56:37.980 --> 05:56:43.360 charges of war crimes on us, now he's going to be in the dock. 05:56:43.360 --> 05:56:47.500 And I think that tells you that the whole thing that the mayor of New York is basing 05:56:47.500 --> 05:56:52.700 himself on, this criminals, bogus charges, that's what he's using and look at what he's 05:56:52.700 --> 05:56:53.700 doing. 05:56:53.700 --> 05:56:55.340 He's for metting hate. 05:56:55.340 --> 05:57:01.940 He's supposed to be the mayor of all New Yorkers, Jews, Christians, Muslims, everyone, but he's 05:57:01.940 --> 05:57:07.100 He's trying to turn one group against the other, and he's forcing hate and fear. 05:57:07.100 --> 05:57:11.140 I speak to Jewish Americans in New York, and they're afraid right now. 05:57:11.140 --> 05:57:15.780 And I don't think it's accidental that after he made this hate speech against Israel and 05:57:15.780 --> 05:57:20.460 against me, the next day, a Jew is stabbed coming out of a synagogue. 05:57:20.460 --> 05:57:24.820 I think, and with a cry of, Allah is Akbar, Allah Akbar. 05:57:24.820 --> 05:57:26.020 And you know what that means. 05:57:26.020 --> 05:57:28.100 So I think that it's shameful. 05:57:28.100 --> 05:57:30.900 This thing is very bad for New York. 05:57:30.900 --> 05:57:35.820 I think it's very bad for peace, but the answer to your question, I intend to come and speak 05:57:35.820 --> 05:57:42.900 the truth, speak for Israel and for the Israeli-American alliance from the podium of the United Nations. 05:57:42.900 --> 05:57:47.340 Well this is a very important point that you're making though, because this rhetoric from 05:57:47.340 --> 05:57:53.220 Zoran Mondani is more than just talking about Israel at a personal fight that he's having 05:57:53.220 --> 05:57:54.220 with you. 05:57:54.220 --> 05:57:59.900 I'm wondering if you believe that this rhetoric is making Jewish New Yorkers unsafe. 05:57:59.900 --> 05:58:05.820 And is that what's behind so much upset and this anti-Israel sentiment raging across the 05:58:05.820 --> 05:58:06.820 country? 05:58:06.820 --> 05:58:13.420 Well, I do think the Jews feel very uncomfortable because I speak to quite a lot of my friends 05:58:13.420 --> 05:58:15.660 and they say, look, it's like a different... 05:58:15.660 --> 05:58:21.820 Yeah, I wonder who's responsible for anti-Semitism skyrocketing Benjamin Netanyahu or the guy 05:58:21.820 --> 05:58:29.500 who's objectively more popular by wide margins amongst American Jews, uh, Zoramumdani. 05:58:30.460 --> 05:58:35.900 But American Jews hate A-Pack, hate Benjamin and Yahu, love Zoramumdani. 05:58:36.540 --> 05:58:43.820 Okay. The idea that this is like, the idea that the main guy who's responsible for maximum enmity 05:58:43.820 --> 05:58:48.620 towards, uh, the international Jewry, not just American Jews, but like Jews all around the 05:58:48.620 --> 05:58:56.700 the fucking world, by constantly associating all of the death and destruction with them, 05:58:56.700 --> 05:59:00.860 is over here being like, oh, it's the people that are calling me out that are responsible 05:59:00.860 --> 05:59:12.420 for anti-Semitism. It's actually anti-Semitism that call me out. 05:59:12.420 --> 05:59:15.700 But as on the U.S. supported the apartheid government in South Africa, even till there 05:59:15.700 --> 05:59:19.900 was a UN agreement, they still voted against liberation. Why are they needed now? Please 05:59:19.900 --> 05:59:28.480 don't yell at me. It's because there was a lot more pressure and Israel existed far 05:59:28.480 --> 05:59:32.380 beyond. Israel's apartheid existed far beyond the apartheid in South Africa and they learned 05:59:32.380 --> 05:59:41.420 very important lessons from how the apartheid was destroyed in South Africa. Israel and 05:59:41.420 --> 05:59:47.500 apartheid South Africa were close allies. Israel actually aided and embedded apartheid 05:59:47.500 --> 05:59:54.460 South Africa, uh, spied the ADL, the apartheid defensively literally spied on American, American 05:59:54.460 --> 06:00:00.260 Jews that were anti South African apartheid, um, you know, black student movements, student 06:00:00.260 --> 06:00:04.380 movements, trade unionist movements that were protesting against apartheid South Africa. 06:00:04.380 --> 06:00:11.140 Israel actually by way of the ADL spied on these people for South Africa. Okay. The problem 06:00:11.140 --> 06:00:17.780 is when the apartheid ended in South Africa, Israel, which was maintaining its own apartheid, 06:00:18.420 --> 06:00:21.780 realized that there were some very important lessons that they could learn from this. 06:00:22.500 --> 06:00:29.060 So they got back to work. The same initiatives that existed that actually reached a critical 06:00:29.060 --> 06:00:34.020 level of success against the apartheid South Africa have been outright criminalized in this 06:00:34.020 --> 06:00:38.260 country. Boycotts, divestments, and sanctions is not a movement that was invented against 06:00:38.260 --> 06:00:42.740 the apartheid Israel, it was initially deployed against apartheid South Africa to great success. 06:00:43.380 --> 06:00:47.700 Cultural boycotts, academic boycotts against apartheid South Africa also played a formative role. 06:00:48.500 --> 06:00:58.420 Okay. Israel learned from the, I guess, quote-of-word mistakes that they made, 06:01:00.020 --> 06:01:02.820 apartheid South Africa made in terms of continuing. 06:01:02.820 --> 06:01:20.580 it's unjustifiable and illegal structure of apartheid. That's it. I think there's also, 06:01:20.580 --> 06:01:31.260 I guess this is more spiritual, but there is like, given that there was already existing, 06:01:31.260 --> 06:01:37.100 I guess, guilt amongst some of the more progressive forces in the country about America's own 06:01:37.100 --> 06:01:42.940 history of anti-Black racism. It was an easier message for Americans to understand. And also, 06:01:43.900 --> 06:01:48.940 a lot of Black movements instantly were obviously on board with the abolition of the apartheid in 06:01:48.940 --> 06:01:55.180 South Africa. Whereas again, where does Israel spend a lot of money in the United States? 06:01:55.180 --> 06:02:04.620 States. We talked about this earlier. A lot of progressive black movements that are inside 06:02:04.620 --> 06:02:10.260 of the Democratic Party are funded in large part by Apex subsidiaries and big donors that 06:02:10.260 --> 06:02:15.600 are pro-Israel. That's part of the reason why, while the black population overall is 06:02:15.600 --> 06:02:21.140 not supportive of Israel at all, a lot of the establishment Democrats, a lot of the 06:02:21.140 --> 06:02:28.620 The spokespersons for black Americans on mainstream media are very pro-Israel. 06:02:28.620 --> 06:02:35.180 They are directly at odds with their own base. 06:02:35.180 --> 06:02:40.580 The attitude that Americans have towards Jewish people in general, and they see Israel as 06:02:40.580 --> 06:02:49.940 the Jewish state, is shame because of the lack of support during the Holocaust, like 06:02:49.940 --> 06:02:53.780 turning away Jewish refugees from the United States of America, 06:02:53.780 --> 06:02:58.220 a lot of this played a formative role in the design 06:02:58.220 --> 06:03:06.340 for why the American state played a big role in defending Israel from the start. 06:03:06.340 --> 06:03:09.700 It's this interesting dichotomy that exists 06:03:09.700 --> 06:03:10.740 for 06:03:10.740 --> 06:03:12.380 Jews in Israel 06:03:12.380 --> 06:03:16.740 as the majority group, as the dominant group, as the in-group of power, versus 06:03:16.740 --> 06:03:23.180 Jews in America that have been historically undermined, okay? Historically undermined as 06:03:23.180 --> 06:03:29.340 a minority population. Not anymore. There's no real systemic discrimination against Jews 06:03:29.340 --> 06:03:35.620 in the United States of America in 2026, but historically there was discrimination against 06:03:35.620 --> 06:03:40.220 Jews, systematic discrimination against Jews. 06:03:40.220 --> 06:03:49.940 From world, we're afraid to go into the streets. We certainly do not want to wear yamakas 06:03:49.940 --> 06:03:58.900 or any, any clothing that would give away that we're Jews. But yes, they feel frightened. 06:03:58.900 --> 06:04:02.340 And I think that's part of this incitement language that is sweeping. 06:04:02.340 --> 06:04:05.940 Yeah. The anti apartheid movement in the US was also not long after the civil rights 06:04:05.940 --> 06:04:09.180 movement was kind of seen as an internationally in the fight against Jim Crow, even though 06:04:09.180 --> 06:04:12.220 So you could say the same about anti-apartheid and Palestine has been a while since the civil 06:04:12.220 --> 06:04:13.220 rights era. 06:04:13.220 --> 06:04:18.900 Yes, but there's also a 20 or barrier between any kind of civil rights movement, international 06:04:18.900 --> 06:04:24.580 or domestic and the global war on terror, which basically universalized Israel's enemies 06:04:24.580 --> 06:04:28.340 as America's enemies, the Muslim hordes in general. 06:04:28.340 --> 06:04:33.380 That is a big part of the reason there is tremendous amounts of Islamophobia in American 06:04:33.380 --> 06:04:34.480 public. 06:04:34.480 --> 06:04:40.640 And that is what keeps Israel, uh, that is what allows Israel to operate in the violent 06:04:40.640 --> 06:04:41.640 ways that it does. 06:04:41.640 --> 06:04:44.360 Because ultimately the average American still goes, ah, yeah, these Muslims are kind of 06:04:44.360 --> 06:04:50.960 scary and weird, uh, and, and dangerous and, and, you know, I guess like the average American 06:04:50.960 --> 06:04:53.880 looks at the situation and goes, yeah, Jews are fighting against Muslims. 06:04:53.880 --> 06:04:55.840 It's like their own religious battle. 06:04:55.840 --> 06:04:59.640 You know, I think, uh, the average American probably thinks like, yeah, you know, Jews 06:04:59.640 --> 06:05:05.240 control the media but I like Seinfeld and Muslims I am fearful of because they 06:05:05.240 --> 06:05:10.640 did 9-11 and they want to do it all the time. So they just lean on one side over 06:05:10.640 --> 06:05:14.520 the other most people were uninitiated pre-October 7 and they kind of had this 06:05:14.520 --> 06:05:17.400 attitude over it. 06:05:22.760 --> 06:05:29.560 Super simple but that is what it is. Jews control the banks but they're 06:05:29.560 --> 06:05:37.440 good with money, and Jews control the media, but I like, you know, the media and that Muslims 06:05:37.440 --> 06:05:41.800 are scary terrorists. Like the average American doesn't think deeply about this stuff. That's 06:05:41.800 --> 06:05:47.080 how they operate. It's the, the Boomer fellow Semitism, the type of anti-Semitism you hear 06:05:47.080 --> 06:05:52.040 from Donald Trump, for example, like, oh, Jews make good lawyers, Jews make good money, 06:05:52.040 --> 06:06:01.800 that kind of thing is what causes a lot of Americans to lean on the side of this religious 06:06:01.800 --> 06:06:07.520 conflict that they designed in their heads as one being over Jews and Muslims, where 06:06:07.520 --> 06:06:09.520 they sided with the Jews over the Muslims. 06:06:22.520 --> 06:06:26.520 Brogis fed the out of context. Is that cool verse for the next 1000 years, Lamau? 06:06:26.520 --> 06:06:30.520 I mean, very clearly this is not my position. I'm saying that this is what the average American thinks. 06:06:30.520 --> 06:06:35.520 Which, again, if they were to clip, most people would look at that and go, yeah, I agree with that. 06:06:35.520 --> 06:06:39.000 He nailed it. 06:06:39.000 --> 06:06:44.600 A lot of circles with anti-Semitism, a lot of circles in the West, in the United States, 06:06:44.600 --> 06:06:49.360 and unbelievably in New York City, which has the second largest Jewish population in the 06:06:49.360 --> 06:06:51.880 world after Israel. 06:06:51.880 --> 06:06:52.880 And I think it's wrong. 06:06:52.880 --> 06:06:54.040 The whole thing is wrong. 06:06:54.040 --> 06:06:55.040 And what are they doing? 06:06:55.040 --> 06:07:02.240 I mean, what Mondani is supporting, his wife, his family, he celebrated October 7th massacre, 06:07:02.240 --> 06:07:05.780 the worst massacre against Jews since the Holocaust. 06:07:05.780 --> 06:07:09.080 He's basically supporting, he tries to say that he doesn't, 06:07:09.080 --> 06:07:11.280 but he's supporting the Hamas murderers 06:07:11.280 --> 06:07:13.940 who raped our women, then beheaded them, 06:07:13.940 --> 06:07:16.120 burnt babies alive, slaughtered our men, 06:07:16.120 --> 06:07:20.840 took innocent people, hostages, 251 men, women, children, 06:07:20.840 --> 06:07:23.480 babies, that's who he's supporting. 06:07:23.480 --> 06:07:25.840 And they're the ones who are responsible for genocide. 06:07:25.840 --> 06:07:28.120 They would have killed, as their charter says, 06:07:28.120 --> 06:07:29.860 and as they themselves proclaimed, 06:07:29.860 --> 06:07:35.020 They would have killed every single Jew in Israel and every Jew in the world. 06:07:35.020 --> 06:07:38.400 So the genocide belongs to our enemies. 06:07:38.400 --> 06:07:43.320 What we're doing is try to fight this genocidal terrorist organization that embeds itself 06:07:43.320 --> 06:07:48.840 among civilians, prevents us from moving the civilians out of Hanh's way, they use gunpoint. 06:07:48.840 --> 06:07:51.440 That's where the real criminals are. 06:07:51.440 --> 06:07:57.120 But Mandani is aligning himself with the criminals, with these murderers. 06:07:57.120 --> 06:08:02.560 But the worst thing is that he's, he's tormenting his own, his own citizens, his own voters. 06:08:02.560 --> 06:08:04.520 No, that is wrong. 06:08:04.520 --> 06:08:08.200 And I, you know, I've been to New York so many times Maria over the year. 06:08:08.200 --> 06:08:10.560 I've met all the New York mayors. 06:08:10.560 --> 06:08:15.440 They all saw themselves as mayors of all New Yorkers, not putting the. 06:08:15.440 --> 06:08:19.720 Yeah, he's talking about who does not actually despise the baby. 06:08:19.720 --> 06:08:21.040 Yes, I fucking hate him. 06:08:21.040 --> 06:08:22.040 He is disgusting. 06:08:22.040 --> 06:08:24.480 He's a disgusting monster. 06:08:24.480 --> 06:08:34.440 with a conscience should also hate him. And do, many people do. Even people are probably 06:08:34.440 --> 06:08:48.080 Israel hate this fucking guy. This guy is a demon through and through. There's is indefensible. 06:08:48.080 --> 06:08:50.560 Not gonna lie, is it wrong to say that the average normal person doesn't even think about 06:08:50.560 --> 06:08:56.080 like most people have exams and or work going on. Have you talked to in any human being in the last 06:08:56.080 --> 06:09:02.400 three years? Like actually have you talked to any human being other than just trolled in this fucking 06:09:02.400 --> 06:09:10.400 chat? Dog, there is no one under the age of 35 that will openly in broad daylight say that they love 06:09:10.400 --> 06:09:20.160 Israel, okay? Like most normies have moved far beyond the position. Most normies have moved far 06:09:20.160 --> 06:09:27.040 beyond the position that Israel is like an ever-present danger, they literally also embody some 06:09:27.040 --> 06:09:35.200 anti-Semitic tendencies as well. That's what most Normies think. We are abnormal. We are abnormal 06:09:35.200 --> 06:09:42.240 for our criticisms of Israel and our criticisms of anti-Semitism. We are in the tiny miniscule 06:09:42.240 --> 06:09:48.320 minority. Most people have moved far beyond shitting on Israel. They 100% go above and beyond. 06:09:48.320 --> 06:09:55.520 like it's not even just like shit that would be you know considered anti-semitic maybe on the edge 06:09:55.520 --> 06:09:59.600 like you know kissing the wall memes and stuff like that all of that stuff is not normalized 06:10:00.160 --> 06:10:03.600 everyone says it now okay everybody says it 06:10:07.120 --> 06:10:13.360 when i say don't think don't think they like don't think seriously it's mostly memes 06:10:13.360 --> 06:10:23.040 Israel is literally a substitute for all things cringe Israel's a substitute for all things bad when people fucking hate something they say this is Israel coded 06:10:23.040 --> 06:10:26.720 but it's it's done. It's super done. 06:10:26.720 --> 06:10:44.620 It's so bad that people literally fell for Candace Owen saying Israel killed Charlie 06:10:44.620 --> 06:10:51.140 Kirk like there are even people here who sincerely believe this and to I'm agnostic on that okay 06:10:51.140 --> 06:10:55.380 I don't push back on that stuff anymore you know I used to but hey it's out of my hands 06:10:55.380 --> 06:11:03.300 Pitting one part of the population against the other. 06:11:03.300 --> 06:11:04.300 Of course. 06:11:04.300 --> 06:11:10.460 Ms. Prime Minister, let me move on to the war where we saw the highest, really, hostilities 06:11:10.460 --> 06:11:13.060 yet in the last week. 06:11:13.060 --> 06:11:16.820 What will it take to end this war? 06:11:16.820 --> 06:11:19.100 I think it will – what will it take? 06:11:19.100 --> 06:11:24.580 It will take for Iran to understand, either for this regime to fall or for Iran to realize 06:11:24.580 --> 06:11:32.740 at the cost of wreaking economic chaos through the world, murdering its thousands of its 06:11:32.740 --> 06:11:38.820 own citizens, and shooting at everyone, I mean literally at everyone, at Saudi Arabia, 06:11:38.820 --> 06:11:45.300 at Bahrain, at Qatar, at Kuwait, at the UAE, at Israel, at Jordan, every single one. 06:11:45.300 --> 06:11:49.660 I mean, this is what this regime is doing when they don't have nuclear weapons. 06:11:49.660 --> 06:11:52.540 So imagine what they would do if they had nuclear weapons. 06:11:52.540 --> 06:11:57.100 I think when this regime is either toppled or it's sufficiently weakened that it knows 06:11:57.100 --> 06:12:00.900 it has to end its nuclear program and has to change its course. 06:12:00.900 --> 06:12:07.780 That's really what President Trump is trying to achieve, and I back his efforts to do so. 06:12:07.780 --> 06:12:14.300 If he can do so without returning to intense military fighting, that's fine. 06:12:14.300 --> 06:12:17.780 But one way or the other, they have to end their nuclear program. 06:12:17.780 --> 06:12:21.340 And with a deal or without a deal, that has to come to an end. 06:12:21.340 --> 06:12:27.140 How far back do you believe Iran's nuclear program has been set back since this fighting 06:12:27.140 --> 06:12:28.660 began at the end of February? 06:12:28.660 --> 06:12:30.420 Quite a bit. 06:12:30.420 --> 06:12:37.260 I mean, we knocked out 20 of their chief nuclear scientists in the two operations that we did 06:12:37.260 --> 06:12:41.340 with the United States, 20 leading nuclear scientists. 06:12:41.340 --> 06:12:44.780 We knocked out a lot of their facilities. 06:12:44.780 --> 06:12:49.940 It doesn't mean that they can't try to reconstruct, but we pushed them back a good few years. 06:12:49.940 --> 06:12:55.040 That's important because just imagine, I mean, what would happen if this regime, the chance 06:12:55.040 --> 06:12:59.140 death to America, that's the real goal, death to America. 06:12:59.140 --> 06:13:04.740 If they had nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them to where you're sitting right 06:13:04.740 --> 06:13:10.260 now, Maria, to New York or to Washington or to any city in the United States, this would 06:13:10.260 --> 06:13:14.780 be a mortal peril to every citizen in the United States. 06:13:14.780 --> 06:13:19.820 And obviously, President Trump and I are both committed to prevent this danger to the United 06:13:19.820 --> 06:13:25.660 States to the peace of the world and to Israel. And I can tell you that we'll pursue all the 06:13:25.660 --> 06:13:30.380 means to prevent that. So yes, we pushed it back, but it doesn't mean that you can't have the 06:13:30.380 --> 06:13:35.260 attempt to restore it. And we have to be on the constant watch so it doesn't happen. 06:13:35.820 --> 06:13:40.300 And you're getting set to travel to the U.S. to meet with President Trump and then attend the 06:13:40.300 --> 06:13:48.460 funeral. Yeah, he's he's here. He's coming back. He's coming back to check in on his 06:13:51.260 --> 06:13:57.820 on his little pawn. It's great services of Senator Lindsey Graham. Prime Minister, 06:13:57.820 --> 06:14:02.700 what can you tell us about any fresh new intelligence that you may have about that 06:14:02.700 --> 06:14:06.220 nuclear program that you are about to present President Trump with? 06:14:06.220 --> 06:14:11.460 Well, first let me say that Lindsey Graham is a terrible loss. 06:14:11.460 --> 06:14:17.260 He was such a great friend, such a champion of America and a patriot, and such a champion 06:14:17.260 --> 06:14:18.780 of the Israeli-American alliance. 06:14:18.780 --> 06:14:25.500 He believed in the benefits that Israel gives to the United States in terms of Intel weapons 06:14:25.500 --> 06:14:26.500 technology. 06:14:26.500 --> 06:14:30.540 And, of course, we appreciated very much all the help that we got from the United States. 06:14:30.540 --> 06:14:35.700 So he was an extraordinary American patriot, and we miss him greatly. 06:14:35.700 --> 06:14:40.300 As far as the nuclear program, we constantly exchange information. 06:14:40.300 --> 06:14:45.580 Our intel services and yours are working so close together that it's not that I'm going 06:14:45.580 --> 06:14:51.060 to present new information, but I think it's a good thing to have the opportunity to sit 06:14:51.060 --> 06:14:55.340 with our good friend, President Trump, and to hear what he has in mind, because I think 06:14:55.340 --> 06:14:58.500 in many ways it's his decision. 06:14:58.500 --> 06:15:03.380 But let me say one thing, and I think I should say it very, very clearly. 06:15:03.380 --> 06:15:09.860 If Iran attacks Israel, either directly or through proxies, either with ballistic missiles 06:15:09.860 --> 06:15:18.620 or UAVs or killer drones, it will make a terrible mistake because our response, Israel's response, 06:15:18.620 --> 06:15:23.660 will be very, very forceful. 06:15:23.660 --> 06:15:26.860 My conservative family is saying Trump should be allowed to run for 2020 because only he 06:15:26.860 --> 06:15:28.540 can stop around from developing nuclear weapons. 06:15:28.540 --> 06:15:31.580 I keep pointing out that Nenia has been saying they would build a nuclear bomb within months 06:15:31.580 --> 06:15:36.700 every year now. Ever since they denied him going to the local park with unsalted peanuts 06:15:36.700 --> 06:15:40.020 and hard boiled eggs to feed the crows. I don't know what to do anymore, man. I think 06:15:40.020 --> 06:15:48.580 it's a call. Fuck. God damn it. 06:15:48.580 --> 06:15:58.740 I just got off the fucking almost 20 hour flight. Come back home and I rushed over here. 06:15:58.740 --> 06:16:05.180 stay back, hit the star streaming button and y'all got a doing like this, that's what 06:16:05.180 --> 06:16:06.180 we're doing? 06:16:06.180 --> 06:16:10.920 That's what we're fucking doing is supporting independent media, podcasting service, people's 06:16:10.920 --> 06:16:17.440 broadcasting service sponsored by you the people for you the people. 06:16:17.440 --> 06:16:20.440 Okay? 06:16:20.440 --> 06:16:26.840 Fucked up. 06:16:26.840 --> 06:16:36.800 Prime Minister, Lebanon is also a key central to Israel's long-term security. 06:16:36.800 --> 06:16:41.200 I want to get your take on the meeting in the White House with the president of Lebanon 06:16:41.200 --> 06:16:47.400 last week and your thoughts on whether or not he can be a positive in this fight. 06:16:47.400 --> 06:16:53.000 Well, first of all, I think we've already had a positive development because remember 06:16:53.000 --> 06:16:59.160 Hezbollah that basically holds Lebanon hostage had taken over the south of the country that borders on Israel 06:16:59.160 --> 06:17:03.280 And they were going to invade us like the Hamas did on October 7th 06:17:03.280 --> 06:17:07.960 They were going to do it actually with a force a lot bigger. They prepared terror tunnels 06:17:07.960 --> 06:17:14.160 They had the terror installations along the border and we pushed them back. We pushed them back by five to 06:17:14.560 --> 06:17:16.760 eight miles away from our border 06:17:16.760 --> 06:17:24.760 destroyed a lot of these terror tunnels, and they were in a position to fire directly. 06:17:24.760 --> 06:17:29.000 Anti-tank missiles right into our living rooms across the border. 06:17:29.000 --> 06:17:30.200 Actually they did that. 06:17:30.200 --> 06:17:32.880 So we prevented that from happening. 06:17:32.880 --> 06:17:35.040 I think we weakened Hezbollah a lot. 06:17:35.040 --> 06:17:40.080 They had 150,000 missiles and rockets. 06:17:40.080 --> 06:17:44.880 The greatest concentration of such projectiles on the planet aimed against Israel. 06:17:44.880 --> 06:17:46.880 We knocked out about 94 percent of that. 06:17:46.880 --> 06:17:49.720 So that's good for Israel, good for peace, good for Lebanon. 06:17:49.720 --> 06:17:51.200 But it's still there. 06:17:51.200 --> 06:17:58.480 We talked to the Lebanese government with your – with America's good offices in Washington, 06:17:58.480 --> 06:18:03.240 led by the – by the President and Secretary Rubio, and we got a deal. 06:18:03.240 --> 06:18:07.440 And the deal says openly, for the first time in decades, Israelis and Lebanese are talking 06:18:07.440 --> 06:18:09.280 directly to one another. 06:18:09.280 --> 06:18:14.840 And the deal was we pushed back Hezbollah, we demilitarized Lebanon, we disarmed Hezbollah, 06:18:14.840 --> 06:18:20.920 And we make peace and I think the fact that this deal was put forward is a great advance 06:18:20.920 --> 06:18:23.920 It shows that his balas ability to intimidate 06:18:24.520 --> 06:18:31.660 Lebanon's government and its president has been sharply reduced now whether or not the Lebanese army can take over the areas 06:18:31.720 --> 06:18:38.240 That we clear up from damn the big yahoo loses step. Hasbara isn't hitting as good. He's fucking 06:18:39.320 --> 06:18:41.320 Maybe it's the ass cancer 06:18:42.520 --> 06:18:43.880 but 06:18:43.880 --> 06:18:48.800 The hotspot never works any longer. It's just they they have to prop it up with bots 06:18:51.680 --> 06:18:54.460 Make no mistake, this is where every accusation is a confession 06:18:54.460 --> 06:18:58.160 The UN is not a safe place to be anymore. It's time to vote in America now 06:18:58.160 --> 06:19:01.180 How about it's really bought boots on the ground instead of American soldiers 06:19:01.180 --> 06:19:05.440 I hope in any island trouble have a huge military escort in New York. They will have enemies there the mayor won't help them 06:19:07.320 --> 06:19:12.200 Only idea posts haven't been censored in the comment section praying for wisdom for all our leaders. God bless 06:19:13.880 --> 06:19:20.080 from Hezbollah, that remains to be seen, but we're willing to give it a try. 06:19:20.080 --> 06:19:25.940 And I think that it's on the whole a positive development, and may lead to another peace 06:19:25.940 --> 06:19:28.000 treaty between Israel and an Arab country. 06:19:28.000 --> 06:19:29.000 Wow. 06:19:29.000 --> 06:19:31.080 Well, that's what I want to ask you about, about the Abraham Accord. 06:19:31.080 --> 06:19:37.280 But first, let me ask you this, because many Israelis are deeply divided on what your government 06:19:37.280 --> 06:19:39.680 is doing in the response to this. 06:19:39.680 --> 06:19:44.860 What do you want to say to critics who may not understand what you're seeing in terms 06:19:44.860 --> 06:19:48.500 of this ongoing war? 06:19:48.500 --> 06:19:57.100 I think there's a lot more unity in the country than appears in the various statements by 06:19:57.100 --> 06:19:58.180 politicians. 06:19:58.180 --> 06:19:59.180 Most Israelis understand. 06:19:59.180 --> 06:20:00.820 We have to fight Hezbollah. 06:20:00.820 --> 06:20:06.380 We're doing that, by the way, with an incredible ratio of five terrorists killed for every 06:20:06.380 --> 06:20:08.260 civilian killed. 06:20:08.260 --> 06:20:09.340 That's unheard of. 06:20:09.340 --> 06:20:12.180 And we do it because we precision target the terrorists. 06:20:12.180 --> 06:20:17.180 Hezbollah, like Hamas, embeds itself among civilians, but we've been able to reduce that 06:20:17.180 --> 06:20:20.540 ratio in Gaza, because the last thing we want is genocide. 06:20:20.540 --> 06:20:25.660 In fact, we want to hit the terrorists, not the civilians that they use as human shields. 06:20:25.660 --> 06:20:28.580 And we're very successful in doing that in Lebanon. 06:20:28.580 --> 06:20:33.860 Most Israelis understand that we have to keep the security zone that we have now alongside 06:20:33.860 --> 06:20:39.840 the Israeli border on the Lebanese side in order to prevent a new invasion attempt by 06:20:39.840 --> 06:20:44.140 his bala terrorist and most support our efforts to reach a peace with Lebanon. 06:20:44.140 --> 06:20:48.920 So I would think there's a lot more unity among Israelis than meets the eye. 06:20:48.920 --> 06:20:51.580 And if I'm elected again, we're going to have elections in a few months. 06:20:51.580 --> 06:20:58.220 I intend to create a broad national government that will give expression to that unity in 06:20:58.220 --> 06:20:59.220 the next government. 06:20:59.220 --> 06:21:06.020 And Prime Minister, I want to get your take on this Saudi deal over a nuclear deal with 06:21:06.020 --> 06:21:07.220 the U.S. 06:21:07.220 --> 06:21:14.160 The Israel was concerned in the past about Saudi Arabia's ability to enrich uranium, 06:21:14.160 --> 06:21:21.060 but President Trump has done this civilian nuclear deal program with the Saudis on the 06:21:21.060 --> 06:21:26.100 condition that Saudi Arabia join the Abraham Accords. 06:21:26.100 --> 06:21:27.220 Are you expecting that? 06:21:27.220 --> 06:21:28.900 And what is your assessment of this nuclear deal? 06:21:28.900 --> 06:21:32.580 is even an electoral opposition yes but they're also they they also are in favor 06:21:32.580 --> 06:21:34.340 of the same shit 06:21:34.340 --> 06:21:36.300 clear deal 06:21:36.300 --> 06:21:39.780 well first of all i i think president trump was absolutely right in 06:21:39.780 --> 06:21:42.260 uh... stating that condition 06:21:42.260 --> 06:21:46.880 you know that you saw the way we would get a civilian nuclear program 06:21:46.880 --> 06:21:48.540 uh... in exchange for 06:21:48.540 --> 06:21:52.660 uh... and normalization of relations with israel i stress civilian because the 06:21:52.660 --> 06:21:55.740 last thing we want and i'm sure the last thing the president wants 06:21:55.740 --> 06:22:00.620 is a military program, a nuclear program in Saudi Arabia. 06:22:00.620 --> 06:22:01.900 Can we have this? 06:22:01.900 --> 06:22:03.180 Yes, I think it's possible. 06:22:03.180 --> 06:22:06.700 Remember that we had four peace agreements 06:22:06.700 --> 06:22:10.420 between Israel and Arab nations, brokered by President Trump 06:22:10.420 --> 06:22:13.220 with my working together with me. 06:22:13.220 --> 06:22:15.700 It's a great achievement, a historic achievement. 06:22:15.700 --> 06:22:18.380 And obviously, we'll be delighted if we could extend it 06:22:18.380 --> 06:22:20.620 to Saudi Arabia and other countries. 06:22:20.620 --> 06:22:24.100 And I think if we weaken Iran further, we will. 06:22:24.100 --> 06:22:26.740 Which countries are you expecting to join the Abracadabra? 06:22:26.740 --> 06:22:27.740 They're playing him out. 06:22:28.740 --> 06:22:31.420 The ones that I want to join, I will not. 06:22:32.180 --> 06:22:34.500 I won't reduce the problem. 06:22:36.100 --> 06:22:37.340 What the fuck is going on? 06:22:37.340 --> 06:22:38.340 They're playing him out. 06:22:38.940 --> 06:22:41.220 Maria is like, I love you, Mr. President. 06:22:41.220 --> 06:22:42.340 You're the real president. 06:22:42.380 --> 06:22:43.620 I can't get enough of you. 06:22:43.620 --> 06:22:47.740 They're joining by exposing them here, but I can't tell you that we have. 06:22:47.860 --> 06:22:49.300 Well, Maria, I'll tell you this. 06:22:49.660 --> 06:22:51.740 And everybody says Israel is isolated. 06:22:51.740 --> 06:22:52.820 This is not isolated. 06:22:52.820 --> 06:22:59.820 I mean, many, many countries in Africa, in Latin America. 06:22:59.820 --> 06:23:00.820 That's the real president talking. 06:23:00.820 --> 06:23:02.180 You can't fucking play him out. 06:23:02.180 --> 06:23:04.620 He can go on for as long as he wants to. 06:23:04.620 --> 06:23:10.580 In Asia, even in Europe, many countries are coming to us because they want to share our 06:23:10.580 --> 06:23:12.420 technology, civilian technology. 06:23:12.420 --> 06:23:18.300 They want to benefit from our military prowess and technology. 06:23:18.300 --> 06:23:21.540 And there are now contacts with several Arab countries in the Middle East. 06:23:21.540 --> 06:23:27.020 But because I want to advance those contacts, I'd rather reserve my answer to a future 06:23:27.020 --> 06:23:29.540 appearance on your show. 06:23:29.540 --> 06:23:30.540 And we want you back. 06:23:30.540 --> 06:23:35.020 But real quick before you go, Mr. Prime Minister, the anti-Semitism in the Democrat Party, 06:23:35.020 --> 06:23:41.180 are you worried about losing the Democrat Party as opposed to risk to Israeli-U.S. relations? 06:23:41.180 --> 06:23:42.180 Real quick, sir. 06:23:42.180 --> 06:23:47.940 Yeah, I'm very concerned with that, obviously, because I think a bipartisan support for Israel 06:23:47.940 --> 06:23:50.260 is important, very important for us. 06:23:50.260 --> 06:23:52.700 But I'll tell you what I'm worried about most. 06:23:52.700 --> 06:23:59.420 I'm worried about the reasons that leading Democrats have said privately. 06:23:59.420 --> 06:24:03.580 One of them said it actually publicly of why they joined the radical fringe. 06:24:03.580 --> 06:24:08.780 And the reason is that their family has been harassed, that they're afraid of being tailed 06:24:08.780 --> 06:24:13.780 everywhere and being intimidated by this radical fringe. 06:24:13.780 --> 06:24:17.500 So I think that's really something that should worry every American. 06:24:17.500 --> 06:24:22.660 You don't want legislators taking their position because of personal intimidation. 06:24:22.660 --> 06:24:23.660 That's bad. 06:24:23.660 --> 06:24:24.660 Yes, I worry about it. 06:24:24.660 --> 06:24:25.660 Yeah. 06:24:25.660 --> 06:24:26.700 Ms. Prime Minister, good to have you this morning. 06:24:26.700 --> 06:24:27.700 We so appreciate it. 06:24:27.700 --> 06:24:28.700 Yeah. 06:24:28.700 --> 06:24:31.980 Only, only Israel gets to do personal intimidation. 06:24:31.980 --> 06:24:35.060 Anyway, that, that's all for today, folks. 06:24:35.060 --> 06:24:37.260 I'm tired. 06:24:37.260 --> 06:24:38.380 Long travel. 06:24:38.380 --> 06:24:44.980 Uh, but I still wanted to come back strong is there was a lot I didn't get to today, 06:24:44.980 --> 06:24:47.340 but there's a lot I covered. 06:24:47.340 --> 06:24:49.660 I'll be back tomorrow with more news Monday, 06:24:49.660 --> 06:24:50.740 Newsday, you already know, 06:24:50.740 --> 06:24:52.700 we got some social guests coming on this week. 06:24:52.700 --> 06:24:54.980 And then after in the end of the week, 06:24:54.980 --> 06:24:58.620 I will be traveling to Michigan and Wisconsin 06:24:58.620 --> 06:25:00.420 and all over the place. 06:25:00.420 --> 06:25:03.580 So there's going to be a lot of festivities. 06:25:05.100 --> 06:25:08.020 Primaries are coming up next week, tomorrow night. 06:25:08.020 --> 06:25:09.300 There is a big debate. 06:25:09.300 --> 06:25:11.980 I'll also say at Haley Stevens debate coming up. 06:25:11.980 --> 06:25:14.340 Very exciting stuff there. 06:25:14.340 --> 06:25:14.840 But 06:25:15.340 --> 06:25:15.840 The problem 06:25:16.640 --> 06:25:17.140 But 06:25:20.440 --> 06:25:22.840 For the time being this is all I got, love you all 06:25:23.840 --> 06:25:26.040 And I'll see you tomorrow 06:25:26.840 --> 06:25:32.040 Stunning route by introduction, starting off the day 06:25:35.040 --> 06:25:40.240 All the chatter's tricklin' in, I'll sell people hay 06:25:40.240 --> 06:25:48.240 Sonny Los Angeles, California, says a song 06:25:48.240 --> 06:25:56.240 Stunlock to the stunlock to the top, it's just begun 06:25:56.240 --> 06:26:08.240 Cause there is again a sun is streaming, a sun is streaming 06:26:08.240 --> 06:26:18.240 There is again a sun is streaming, a sun is streaming 06:26:18.240 --> 06:26:25.240 Leave you in a Chinese train, town, kayak, place 06:26:25.240 --> 06:26:33.240 Sun in as many channels, giving greenies grace 06:26:33.240 --> 06:26:41.240 Zoran, women, NYC, walk two back with the force 06:26:41.240 --> 06:26:57.240 The Rogan of the left, a mead of himbo, still a corpse The Charlie Kirk assassination, the fear and online chock 06:26:57.240 --> 06:27:07.240 Eight full fuckin' years of this, plenty more to go 06:27:07.240 --> 06:27:15.240 Doing fun stuff tomorrow, throw PBS up on the screen 06:27:15.240 --> 06:27:23.240 A man-made whore reaction brought to you by this life's dream 06:27:23.240 --> 06:27:33.240 Cause there he is again, the sun is streaming, the sun is streaming 06:27:33.240 --> 06:27:44.240 There he is again, the sun is streaming, the sun is streaming 06:27:44.240 --> 06:27:50.240 Kicked out in the DNC, I rail and march the gourd 06:27:50.240 --> 06:27:57.240 Committing the propaganda to shut down people's throats 06:27:57.240 --> 06:28:04.240 CBS Israeli news, a coup, a regime falls 06:28:04.240 --> 06:28:12.240 A full-blown fascist takeover and still the duty calls 06:28:12.240 --> 06:28:20.240 A total radicalization coming out to sea 06:28:20.240 --> 06:28:24.240 A system where he'll always fail 06:28:24.240 --> 06:28:28.240 It's up to you and me 06:28:28.240 --> 06:28:32.240 All these daily streets 06:28:32.240 --> 06:28:36.240 Whether sure or whether long 06:28:36.240 --> 06:28:40.240 I've held millions of people 06:28:40.240 --> 06:28:45.240 keep it moving right along. 06:28:45.240 --> 06:28:52.240 Cause there he is again, a son is streaming. 06:28:52.240 --> 06:28:55.240 A son is streaming. 06:28:55.240 --> 06:29:02.240 There he is again, a son is streaming. 06:29:02.240 --> 06:29:06.240 A son is streaming. 06:29:06.240 --> 06:29:11.240 But hey, what can you say that's BBS for you? 06:29:12.240 --> 06:29:17.240 But he'll play games real soon, just you wait 06:29:19.240 --> 06:29:24.240 Say hey, what can you say that's BBS for you? 06:29:25.240 --> 06:29:29.240 But he'll move on real soon, just you wait 06:29:29.240 --> 06:29:32.240 Ba-da-da, ba-da-da, ba-da-da-da-da-da-da 06:29:32.240 --> 06:29:37.240 Hey, what can you say? Hey, that's PBS for you. 06:29:37.240 --> 06:29:42.240 I hope all your loans will soon. Just you wait. 06:29:42.240 --> 06:29:46.240 Shadadah, shadadah, shadadadadadada. 06:29:46.240 --> 06:29:50.240 What can you say? Hey, that's PBS for you. 06:29:50.240 --> 06:29:57.240 I hope you're just advised real soon. Just you wait. 06:29:57.240 --> 06:30:03.240 But hey, what can you say, that's PBS for you? 06:30:03.240 --> 06:30:13.240 Wrote on my view is like you, just you wait, just you wait