Have you ever heard someone mention the Strysand effect and wondered what they were talking about? This phenomenon is named after actress Barbara Strysand. Sometimes when you try to cover something up, you end up bringing more attention to it than if you had just let things be. He won't condemn us out of Piper! Let me prove it, but they've seen it! The Assemblyman will not denounce Hassan Piper, who said, America deserved 9-11, dude. The Assemblyman will just say that he was in response to Hassan Piper. He says America deserved 9-11. There you go! There you have it! My friends, we have toppled a political dynasty! Now to the Michigan Senate race, where L. Syed is campaigning in Michigan, appearing on stage at two Michigan campaign rallies. He's coactively campaigning alongside Piker. The man who said Hezbollah's flag is his favorite because it's dope. Why would you align yourself for a raging anti-Semitism who has defended Hamas terrorists? Calling them the lesser of two is Israel's compared to the government's evilest counter-strike. Lesser of two, that's what I find a bridge too far. When I went up to my good friend, Chad, and said, hey, you walked me through some more controversial statements of Assad Piker. even chat BPC went out of its way to stalk and beat edges of the song and give me context. Thanks, but no sex. Chat BPC. The song, Piker, is campaign poison. Placing yourself on the wrong side of a 9-10 issue is only going to make you look bad. It's going to be good for me. It's going to be good for the candidates that I work with. Turns out it was true. Abdul Al-Sayed at 27% over largely. May my heroes, everybody. Nice to meet you. Welcome to the broadcast. Thank you for having me. Oh my gosh. What's going on, man? What's up, dude? What's up? I'm not really enjoying it, yeah. How are you feeling? He's trying to get it out. Wow! What's going on, everybody? Everyone's having a fantastic evening, afternoon, premium, no matter where you are in the world. I'm Sam Plaker, and this is Austin. I'm broadcast coming to you live from sunny California, California, Los Angeles folks were live and alive. And I know all the boys, girls and MBS are having a fantastic one because today's a beautiful day. Today's a wonderful day. Today's a no suit day. It's no suit Sunday. Yeah, that's right. I'm back. I'm back. The suit era is not over. The suit era is not over, but this is a, this is Sunday, fun day. And I wanted to spell it out for you, you know what I mean? I wanted to showcase that it is absolutely Sunday fun day by not wearing a suit. It's casual. It's casual. The pants are still like, you know, they're, they're still dapper pants, dapper pants. Anyway, folks, folks, folks, folks. We're live. Yo, a chud is taking over your stream. What do you mean? We're live, we're alive, it's Sunday fun day, um, this is part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news, but I wish there was something to tell you as far as my personal news goes, but there's nothing. And the reason for why there's nothing as far as my personal news goes is because I'm a shut ass loser. Okay, I'm a shut ass loser. You already know. You already know what's up. I didn't do shit last night. I didn't do shit. Just, social media, it's crazy. There's nothing going on in my life. I'm such a fucking loser. Social media, went to bed early, woke up early, played basketball, won some games, lost some games. What the hell is this, data center fornicator? Is this AI bro? Did they make AI slop? I'm an infrastructure incubator, a hyperscale accelerator, a multi-token masturbator, a data center for negator. It's like daddy's lining up, bibbiting war, no prenup Cap X is my greatest flex, that finance, the nova stretch Rack, rack, rambitant, hot and wet, plug it in I'm a market dominator, a species terminator A backup generator, I'm a date to send a formicator We're coming for your land, put your hands on We're coming for your water, err, maybe they need that We're coming for you Jobs Wait what? I'm gonna, I'm gonna, gonna, gonna, gonna, gonna, gonna, gonna! Oh my God, we screwed the planet Out of water, out of land, out of power, out of hand We're leaving this place, we're going to space Come and get brought to the human race Racks, racks, rammin' in, hot and wet, plug it in I'm a Dyson Sphere Fabricator a new reality simulator, a literal God and you're the Omidita Center for the Kingdom. It's just strange because it's like, it's literally made with AI. Like, I just, I feel conflicted because on the one hand, it's, God, AI has gotten so much better. Like, generative AI has gotten so much better. to such a degree where this is like they're basically putting out a more competent product but it's also but it's also literally like we're using AI in an effort to complain about we're using AI to complain about AI data centers. Now a Chinese spy. This is not AI. I know exactly what video this is. I, I'm not going to lie to you. He did it again. He did it again. And I fucking hate it. He did it again. Zoran did it again. This is actually, I saw this. He's China mugging me. I noticed how I saw it and I didn't like it because I saw this already. I saw it on tick talk, 1.3 million, I think likes or something like that on Tiktok as well. I saw it on Instagram. I saw it on Twitter and I just kind of I've been I've been I don't want to I don't want to acknowledge it because he he's just he's mogging. He's mogging me in every way Bro trying to find the dislike button. Yeah, I kind of hate it He cooked so hard. I mean he's so He cooks so hard. He look at my name is Mr. Zoramandani. I don't know Chinese, but I want to try it because he hits the tone so good Look, I don't I don't speak Chinese. You guys know this is embarrassing Okay, it's embarrassing I don't speak Chinese You guys know this even though I'm white Chinese, right? But he hits those tones so hard dude if it sounds to my ears to my Turkish American ears it sounds so perfect I'm sure there's like a little bit of I'm sure there's some blemishes but it sounds so goddamn perfect he's he's selling free Broadway tickets to the to the Chinese folk to the Chinese Americans living in New York City New York 但是政府将免费送出2000多张白老汇远出门牌。 免于8月17日。 之前访问一下网站,了解如何参加抽签。 您还可以免费获得The Theatre Development Fund。 ha ha ha ha theater development fun Oh my god, it's so good. It's so good Yeah, he's got that he's got the Beijing accent dude. He's hitting it Down to the tone and everything he dropped the same video in spanish, dude He's even flexing a mug in you Billy, Billy reviewed his pronunciation has a look at your brother, the New York City mayor's Chinese level. It's way higher than yours. Don't you know, lazy? How it, why are Billy Billy guys? What, why are Chinese netizens in Billy Billy pitting brothers against one another? What the hell is that about? I don't like being perceived in this way. Oh God. First, I show speed. Now, Zora, Mungdani and Ludwig too. It's over. It's over. It's over. Oh my God. Not bad. Being able to achieve this effect through sheer rote, uh, route memorization, but isn't he afraid of being labeled a Chinese buyer or something? Which country is he from? He speaks really well, especially he can roughly pronounce all the four tones. The young man speaks Chinese quite well, noted, not replying. Pretty standard. If you haven't learned it before, it's actually not bad. The sentences are quite long. The drinkers heart is not in the cup. It's quite effortful to seek new votes. Mum Downey is also considered a relatively promising new political star good at trading and compromise. Let's see how much political capital you can gain in the midterm election. Trying to win over the Chinese American community's votes is a good idea, but it's highly likely to fail. The Chinese American community is a group that doesn't care about politics, only wants to make money. Oh, no. Chinese netizens in China cooking the Chinese Americans. And even if they get some preferential policies and practical benefits, they won't participate in politics. So for such a group, they become a target for partisan suppression, besides being watched with suspicion. This is also important reason why Chinese Americans fare poorly in the US. They can't serve as a vote bank. In the eyes of politicians, those who can't be a vote bank or trash fit to be used escape goes to the flight conflicts because bro, you forgot the blast off. No, I'm going to right now. Hold on. I just, we dove right into it folks. It's Sunday, fun day. I'm all over the place. We dove right into it. Bro, I just turned on to where the first thing I see. Hey, at least even his urges off the wall, say the folks on machine and get rid of a Sompiger. Like, why is this so ominous? She's like, you have to kill him. You have to kill him. He needs to, Sompiker needs to die in order. You only seek hate, so that's your algo. I think, yes. I think you clocked my shit. You clocked my tea. Um, Zajalani had a good take on it too, which is surprising. He fucking loves. Zaid loves Abdul. It's so funny. All right. Anyway Sunday Fonday react Lord In air quotes moderate Tim pool on the jube Get in yes Tim Poole is on the tube folks and I suspect that there is going to be a like Dave Vrubin-esque reaction you see this shit look what they're doing to our boy I did see that yes I did see what they're doing the Zoran Zoran is now being used in as a way to drive voter turnout in Tel Aviv. It's kind of funny. Anyway, knew some bowing to Abdul. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me just blast off real quick and we'll get into all of that and more. Okay, we're going to do some light news, obviously. Todd Blanche Meet the Press interview was insane. I know. Todd Blanche went on Meet the president was like, of course I'm going to abide by whatever my president wants me to do as attorney general. And I wish other attorneys general would do the same. It's like, no, that's the opposite thing you're supposed, that is the opposite of the thing that you're supposed to say. No, the department of justice is supposed to be an independent arm. It's not supposed to be the de facto, you know, the de facto mercenary force of the presidency. It's kind crazy. So we'll we'll talk about that too. Did you watch your interview with a stead? Yes, I did. It actually blows my mind up there on my leave it left. What the hell is this? Playlist for later fussed over the bottom. Don't worry, BDBD is still thirsting after you. Hasan gets scared by his own meat photo he posted before. Is he an online adult content creator? Beautiful chest. Just like gay. I really want it. I also want to eat. He must have done it on purpose thinking that it will be given to that girl later. I feel so upset America's Mark socialists the Republican Party hates them. What's this talent suck suck suck dude? I didn't know Billy Billy thirsted Only a genius would come up with this kind of shooting angle. What is this doing defying heaven? This angle has some merit dude Billy Billy Chinese netizens also get thirsty. What the hell? That's crazy Let's go Reserve but passionate Hassan. Is this photo angle normal? I'm asking. Haha. Is that you in the photo a red heart? Anyway, it's almost like they're human. I know, but Chinese netizens are so like they're they're so cordial in their comms partially due to the fact that Google translate takes whatever they're saying and turns it into like very proper English. And I think the way that Chinese netizens also communicate, there's a lot of pros, you know, if that makes sense. Like they speak in poetry almost. And like I said, I think partially it's because, partially it's because of the Google translate, but partially because it's just like, you know, they speak like they went to school. They speak like they're literate, right? communicate on the internet like they're literate. So it's kind of funny to see Chinese netizens horny post. It's just not an expected thing. Anyway, uh, yeah, this is a thing that happened this morning. Hailey Stevens urges Abdul Elsaid to focus on Michigan and get rid of Hasan Piker. And it's ominous. It's ominous. It's ominous. She went on Fox News to do party unity and was like, here's one way we can do party unity. You have to kill Hassan Piker. You have to kill him. him. Like she got the MK ultra activation code or something. I don't know what it, I don't know what it is. Look, party unity, party unity. Hey, Lee Stevens, you are my girl. I love you. Okay. I love you. What? That's what I have to say about this. That's what I have to say about what she is about to say on Fox news. He's just crazy. He's crazy. She said, listen, Abdul's great. I'm on board with everything, but he has to kill Hassan Piker. You know, you talk about not quite getting over the finish line, but it's not like he won in a landslide. I mean, this was closer than anybody expected. And the electability case that you made during your campaign is now bearing out. I mean, more than half of the electorate in your state, 54%, say they're concerned that else's positions are too extreme if you break it down further twice as many democrats are concerned he's too extreme as republicans you know i haven't done anything since the election so what more do they want to do to kill me no literally they're like you have to bring they're like at all you have to bring his son back to michigan and then execute him bring him on stage put a gun to the back of his head and pull the trigger. This is the only way to bring about party unity. Who are concerned that Mike Rogers is too close to President Trump. Would you call on Abdul Al Sayed today to moderate on any specific issues? Like, that's what's so crazy about it, where she's like asking her, she's asking her a broad question, right? Would you call on Abdul to moderate on any issues? Let's see what what issue is the top of my issue for Haley Stevens. Well, you know, it certainly makes sense to get rid of this Hassan Piker affiliation. I'm calling on that. I've continued to call on that. My friend and mentor Keith Williams, who is a detraitor who was chair of the Michigan. The Hassan Piker issue, she said, she said the Hassan Piker controls the media, okay? The Hassan Piker controls the banks. The Hassan Piker is the, it's the Hassan Piker question, okay? Now do we have a final solution for the Hassan Piker question? Abdul, what gives? Democratic Party Black Caucus, you know, he and I spend a lot of time together, you know, brainstorming, putting down some of these, you know, how do we build the American dream notions here in a place called Michigan. And she even recites a story of a voter begging her to get rid of his son. This is not real. This is not a real thing. I don't know how I can explain this to people because like, unless you would live in the real world, unless you live in the real world, if you just get your nose from like MSNBC for the Beltway pundits from, from DC based media, this is all you think voters care about. Please in the real world. This is not a real top of mind priority. Okay. Yeah. Notice how they want to acknowledge Donovan exists and that you helped them win only use black people to push their narrative 100%, 100%. We don't do that. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Donovan had a fantastic platform, fantastic policies. And he is, he is straight up. Donovan is I mean the perfect guy for that district. I can't speak positively enough about Donovan McKinney because like when I saw that race, I was just looking at the incumbent. I was looking at Sri Thanadar, a guy who literally chose this poor district on purpose, this district, this poor district, this black district on purpose because he thought he would, he would be able to more effectively control it, right? Without actually doing much for said poor and black district. And Donovan is born and raised Detroit. Like he lives and breathed it, right? He lives there. His kids lived there. His kids are growing up there. Like never have I ever felt like there was a guy more deserving of a seat than Donovan McKinney. And I think he has long career ahead of him regardless. I mean, he's a real fighter. I love him. He is so amazing. He's got great vibes overall. He takes his position very seriously. He is just like a clear cut guy from Detroit who wants what's best for his community, who really, really, really will fight like hell for his people, for his folks, for his constituents. Apparently people are paced here talking to Australia media ABC star doubles down over interview with controversial dude What the fuck they're they're mad that I did an interview They're mad that I did an interview Interviews not even out yet, and they're mad. What is happening man? What is happening? What gives? What is that dude? This is crazy. This is crazy. This is it's not gonna work But it's just like crazy to live and be like breathe in this space to exist in this space where people are just like You're talking to this guy who a lot of Americans are you know listening to? Who who wants? Medicare for all and and to stop American militarism overseas and spend our tax dollars on ourselves instead How fucking dare you we why is why are people not killing this guy Hassan piker? There was an investigation of your other interview to it was allowed because you got asked us tough questions What does that mean oh another a separate Australia Interview that I did I conducted I mean there were tough questions in this one. They don't know they don't know what the questions look like his involvement to split the party no it hasn't said to it run what the fuck what commie says thank you for the 20 set to run thank you for the 50 gift to subs god damn it's why the the centrist embrace Nazis like Richard Hananya and not you is because he validates so much of the world view. To be fair, to be fair, it's like Richard Hunania has no motion for the most part. He's just one of those guys that doesn't have a real constituency. Richard Hunania doesn't have a constituency beyond people in DC, like the Abundocrats, you know, people like that. So he's somewhat irrelevant. Also, he doesn't have any positions that are offensive to those in positions of power, because let's be real. Capitalists, regardless of race, color, background, creed, only care about capitalism, only care about advancing the interests of capitalism. I would say that, you know, Zionists care about Zionism and care about Israel, obviously, but they're also still fairly invested in capitalism for the most part. So, um, like, no one is gonna, no one's gonna give a shit that Richard Hanani has written extensively about, like, the genetic inferiority of black people and stuff, you know what I mean? Like, they don't give a shit that he's a race realist. That's the secret. The secret is you can go as far to the right as you want and still be considered acceptable. like socially, you can be as socially conservative, you can engage in scientific racism, you know, outdated, totally discarded old methods, old methodologies, like just some of that most heinous, some of the most odious ideologies you can express with regular frequency, as long as you are not disrupting the forces of capital, the power that they have, the existing hierarchy, As long as you are not doing that, you're fine. Like, the moment that when push comes to shove, the real frustrating element, the real thing that actually gums up the works for these dudes is when you start talking out, speaking out against certain pre-established norms, you know, our allegiance to Israel being one of them, right? or, you know, anything that harms the profit seekers, anything that harms their interest of seeking out further profit, all of a sudden, this is threatening speech, especially if you get to a certain level. Because once you get to a certain level, you have impact. Your speech isn't just your own. It's no longer just me, it's all of us, right? I become a megaphone for this growing movement, and they can't actually take out every single person in this movement yet, because if you ask the Trump administration that clearly want to do that, right? But for the time being, this is just the disciplining operation. Fuck you, fuck you bitch, says Jensen 6244. Look, any day of the week, you know, the Democratic plan, you know, if you're alicious lock-in or a dual, you know, your plan for healthcare is better than Mike Rogers. Your plan for democracy is better than Mike Rogers. Your plan for black-owned businesses is better than Mike Rogers. And that's something, you know, from my campaign where every city I went to, I went to a minority-owned business and met the owner and just talked to them about their story. A lot of times, you know, working mothers who love what they did love the kitchen that they had created, you know, the the food service industry that's still so popular and vibrant across Michigan. So those are the things that that do fire me up. And look, one of Abdul's supporters, a woman named Nikki Vinicki, you know, she just she's my constituent, actually in the Congress, she supported Abdul in the primary. And she said, hey, let's get rid of this Hassan Piker, you know, he's a popular YouTuber and streamer, you know, everyone gets when you got a lot of followers that, that, you know, it's a way to elevate your platform. But now let's focus on Michigan. And that's what we see the Democratic ticket doing. That's what I mean. I agree. I agree. You should campaign like you should never bring me up. Why are you bringing me up? I'm not in Michigan. I live in Los Angeles, California, my job is to bring the excitement for the under 45 year olds. That's it. That's my job and I did my job, right? I did my job and if it is required again in the general, I will do my job again. Let's say interest is peering off of the under 45 year olds and they go, Hey, you got to come back. You got to do a fucking college tour or something. I'm there. Right. That's my job. My job is to bring the left, the doorknockers, the activists, the people who will actually bring excitement to a campaign. And more specifically, my job is to bring the under 45 crowd. My job is to go to the college campuses and be like, we gotta get mobilized. We gotta get activated. We gotta go out and vote. And that's what I've done. done this. It's not like just for Abdul, I've done this in the past, right? The problem is who I'm doing this for and how disruptive that's been inside of this factional power struggle in the Democratic Party. That's the issue, right? Because like, Like, they're obviously not the biggest fans of AOC either, but AOC is now well-established. Right? AOC has been around the block. AOC has also played ball with political figures, so she's more safe. A lot of these people, on the other hand, a lot of these newcomers, they're not as safe, right? They've said things like they want to do an embargo on Israel. That's a really, really scary position for the Democratic Party. That's a, that's a now growing robust faction that is more responsive to what the base is asking for on this issue as it pertains to Israel. So like, that's what, that's what they're fearful of and it does seem like there are some Democrats who are leaning into this like right wing agitation, at least for the time being, I think it'll die down. The closer we get to the election, I think there will be more party unity overall, like I think they're just trying to get their licks in to see if there's any opportunity here to be like, well maybe he'll go away. Right? But yeah, my job is to rally voters. That's what I do. And, yeah, this is my job, this is my job, there you go. Oh stop showing AI is this AI yeah yeah definitely no no totally it's I'm just I keep showing you guys AI yeah this is definitely I just like that one video of the Dr. Fauci promise me please you'll give us vaccines and spread fight spread the disease or whatever the fuck it was that's that's also a it predates AI technically technically it's from a time when AI wasn't as successful but it's fine it's AI too right? It's always AI. Anything cringe is fucking AI! And you're gonna vote, vote, vote, it's time for more! You gotta be voting, gotta be, gotta be voting! Oh, vote, vote, vote, it's time for more! It's just nobody makes it to the moment! Gotta be, gotta be voting! Oh, vote, vote, vote, it's time for more! God. Spectacular. Spectacular. DSA left us not going to like this. What about this? This is me too. This is also a- nidadıыч this has been the moon this has been the moon everytime I was on my bed and when it got dark I did just been so this wiped all the paper you can Education i can Education i'm feeling it üstPine I can't can't can't i can't can't Kim Oh Give me give me the OG This one's fucked up. No, give me the OG give me the OG give me the OG Dr. Fauci give us vaccines We'll have a cure that can't fight off this disease. This is what Gwoma's crazy. This is what Gwoma's crazy. When people say what Gwoma's crazy, this is what the fuck they're talking about, bro. I swear to God. Oh Jesus Christ. I love this shit so much. This is all this is what I used to watch all the time back in the day. Okay. This is why like 90% of the fucking Twitter liberals are mad at me because it's like them. I've made fun of them when they did like a sing song dance bit or something in like 2018 and I and they never let it go because I made jokes about it. Okay. These restrictions will lift with some ease Dr. Fauci will bring me. No AI needed for this peak. This is Beethoven, dude. Oh my God, I unironically love people like this so much. Like this dude probably is gonna get like a degree, like a master's in public health and become a very important part of epidemiology, very important part of our regulatory bodies eventually, not with the Trump universe that we live in. But like, you need people like this. You need people like this who are just like shameless, unbelievably autistic and love disease prevention. Okay. How do you think the world goes, how do you think, how do you think the world goes around? Okay. How who do you think is making sure that even with RFK junior leading the helm, there are still, you know, certain parts of the CDC that operate who do you think is doing that? It's the autistic twinks Working tirelessly to be like no, it's it's fine. Actually, we'll just keep putting the we'll just keep putting the team on our backs These motherfuckers are the backbone of society Imagine if every single person was too busy trying to farm aura and Trying to be nonchalant Imagine a fucking CDC scientist being nonchalant like uh, oh Oh a new disease spreading. I'm nonchalant. Who cares bro? Who cares bruh? Who cares bruh fuck it? YOLO who cares? No, you gotta be Chalant! These are the Chalant motherfuckers! Okay, they're putting in the work! The fuck do you mean? We have enough influencers we need guys like this, okay? No, it's no big deal, gangie. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, you must be stopped. No. Yeah, that's what this kid is saying to a novel disease. That's what this kid is saying at the CDC, at the facility that he works in, okay? He's saying, you must be stopped. That's what he's saying to RFK Jr. When RFK Jr. is like, we shouldn't let, we shouldn't vaccinate children. He's like, you must be stopped RFK Jr. Anyway, you still have your I'm a homosexual hat. That's a relic we need right now. No, it's the is the Cuomo Fauci hat. It's not a I'm a homosexual hat. Oh, I hate my inability to be nonchalant. It's the way I make a difference and meet women. Yeah, it's just, you know, We need shallot people, okay? Oh, remember this one? This is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic along with- 2.6 million views on this. It was called a pandemic. All you had to do is look at other countries. Stranded in my bedroom. Oh, this is gonna, oh no, should I even show this? I feel like if I show this, you guys are gonna, there's gonna be mass suicides if I show this. I'm a little worried. This might be too much. This might be too much. You deserve it You deserve it This is the type of shit the Libs were on in fucking 2020, okay A nervous wreck and skirt is high Skirt! A co-o-o-vid 19 A nice brown FILE As you bring hope When I can't cope Like this I'm saying Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay Oh, I love you so Oh, Andy Oh, Andy Please give me some day Hope it's not a day If we're on Earth, and don't want it squirt I hope they make you dream You'll run my steps While I've been late With grace and entity Oh please, be my guest. Oh, Andy. And when you were united, there is nothing you can't do. Andy, my darling, this global pandemic is scaring me real bad. Oh, it's time, exactly. But watching your daily press briefing sure does calm me down. The way you manage to lead and inform without terrifying the living shit out of me or straying from the facts and still find time to nurture my delicate spirit with adorable slideshows and relatable anecdotes about meatballs. Your wise, level-headed, eloquent and sexy at a time when the country needs it most. It sure is a refreshing change from that mother fawji I won't get into specifics. You know, I don't like to be political. I guess what I'm trying to say, Andrew, is that you're my number one Cuomo now, and whatever you decide to be once this whole thing blows over, Just when they thought he would be president. President of the United States, or ABC's next bachelor, I'm with you now, Andy. Only you! Even as I continue to light a candle, get naked, and pray every night for the speedy recovery of your brother, my first love, Chris. With his tight wet t-shirts and his sweaty Instagram workout videos and his big muscular... You know, actually, I'm so really into Chris too. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is not a joke. This is un-Imonically how your parents were like. Okay. This is how a lot of liberals behave. This guy is, this guy is Mug, Marxist Unity Group, Caucus DSA, now. And I love New York because New York loves you. Wait, this isn't ironic. Doug, what are you talking about? You guys, were you guys not sentient back in like 2020? How old are you motherfuckers, man? I know there's hella people in here, in this community that have been around and they saw me react to this stuff when it was happening in real time. But how old are you guys? You don't remember? You don't remember 2020? was this like, did they just pass your gaze or something? This is, this was huge. We were, I mean, we were obviously cloning on this shit, but like, I was watching you getting lab dances VR. Shh, don't talk about that. Don't talk about that. We don't remember that part of 2020. Okay, we don't remember that part of 2020. That's a different part. That's a part that's irrelevant. Shut up, shut up, shut up. But yeah, dude, I was so mad back then. I was so fucking mad because Andrew Cuomo literally was like single-handedly responsible for annihilating old people in New York City and also designing the Medicaid and Medicare structure within the state funds to leave so many hospitals in a state of disrepair. So they were just underfunded and overcrowded and that also played a role in like more people dying. Like, and it was so frustrating seeing liberals just be like, well, Cuomo is not like Donald Trump. He's so much better. And I was just like, what the fuck are you guys talking about? He did this. Here's you reacting to this song in 2021. Nothing has changed except for my hair. We're finally back to, you know, fuck yeah turn it up brother stop live overload look it I'm a hog now My ears are bleeding. New York Liberals that peaked in 2010 are the cringy is people riot stop people riot stop. Anyway, so So yeah, this is like, I don't know why the subtitles were in viet. I don't know what happened there, but yeah, this is the, this is, we've been at this for a long as time, man. So what was I saying? We were talking about cringy lib stuff from the 2020s and how much I love them and how much I respect them, even if they don't respect me. Weren't you woke one at the time? No, dude. 90% of the the calcified resentment that comes from the Rad Libs and the Ultras are from that era Where I would constantly tell them to chill the fuck out and then people would literally people Would take that resentment and would be like fuck you you are a reactionary you are secretly a reactionary It's so funny cuz like I've always occupied this space In my commentary where I'm like not woke enough for the hyper wokes and of course Everyone to my right considers me to be like the king of the wokes Yeah, dream Twitter era was so painful, but like also at the same time. What did I always say during the dream Twitter era? What did I always say I'd much preferred these guys. I'd much prefer the the young zealots who are hyper woke and maybe be, you know, haven't, haven't figured out exactly how to do social justice yet to what I had experienced prior to that, which was neo-nazi shithole, which was when the internet was a neo-nazi infested shithole. And I always warned against it. I said, it's going to be far worse when the neo-nazis come back and then they did. So yeah, I have this, I have this perspective on woke one versus woke two that a lot of people don't fully understand, which is, you know, I still prefer woke one to whatever the fuck we have right now with Nazis. But I do think that we can evolve past it a little bit, you know. Yeah, I did predict this as soon as Biden won. If you're early, early Hassan Abihis will remember, I predicted that there would be a pendulum swing back in Biden for, for, you know, unlimited neo-nazi style commentary. That also unfortunately happened. Yeah, we have so many memes in this community that reference this notion, woke of the day, be normal, don't be annoying. They're not even memes, they're just like, it's a credo. Um, the stuff you're calling woke one is the kind of stuff we made fun of in woke one. Yes. But, um, you know, I'm never gonna change. I'm gonna, I've been getting yelled at my whole life. You know, that's what I'm used to. And I think it's prepared me for this moment as the, as the enemies have grown in both power, magnitude, size, intensity, frequency. I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing. I think people who will inevitably make their way to this broadcast will very clearly understand what I'm about very quickly. Ugg, please wear your millennial fits for now on King. What do you mean? Yeah, 2020s, I spent the early 2020s yelling at baby leftists for being like a little bit too overzealous. People just don't think you can laugh at something without meaning you hate it. You can clown on Randy Rainbow silliness without meaning you hate him or what he stands for. Yeah. They, the way I think about it is some people spend a lot of time mastering the terminology and signaling of the era. So then like the fact that we still carry the flame of woke one while also trying new rhetoric and strategy in order to keep pursuing social justice leaving behind some of the failed tactics that didn't work. Sure. I think there's also the element of just like, like for a lot of people, they're not, they're not as policy oriented at all. They're just vibes oriented and, and from their perspective, I think sloganeering is, is the only way that they can associate with an ideology that can't think of like the impact. They can't think of the policies necessarily do your job and put on a suit. Like people, I think one of the biggest failures, and it's not necessarily the annoying attitude demonstrated by some of the card-carrying wokes during Woke 1 that actually eliminated it. It's because once it became a serious problem to the established hierarchy, once it wasn't just Black Lives Matter, but people were making demands like defund the police, then it became a real issue, right? Because like, obviously, the structural forces, the structural forces were like, apps fucking Lutely not, we will crack down on this. And we didn't necessarily have an adequate media environment, an adequate independent media environment that had established credibility, and was large enough, was more powerful enough of force to be able to to push back against some of the stuff narratively. Right. Who's this clown talking at Hassanabi? It's, it's, it's a new guy. He's not even wearing a suit. How do I know he's serious? You can't. Most of your content in woke one was challenging identity politics through class analysis. Yes. And a lot of people hated me for it and they got mad at me for it. It's very interesting because like a lot of the criticism that I still receive from like those choice moments those like High-impact viral moments where people are just like bastardizing my perspective is often times me yelling at someone who's cynically framing an issue around standpoint epistemology to defend a reactionary perspective an anti-class perspective sometimes like a straight-up white supremacist perspective and I'm very vulgar Right. I get passionate. I get heated. I get very vulgar at times and people when they hear it Devoid of its context go. Oh my god. How could he have said such a thing? This guy is obviously a racist or this guy's obviously Transforming this guy's obviously this this guy's obviously that like no you can you can speak normal and Still care about these issues. Okay, and a part of being normal also is like you can at times you know critique someone for saying well as a black person I think every black person cares about ice like that's a ridiculous statement you know you're swearing a lot less though as we saw in the clips I am swearing a lot less nowadays and I need to even tone it down further that's why people think you're a class reductionist though your comms on woke of improved a lot, but still should be adjusted to redirect the systems of oppression rather than saying woke is annoying or whatever. Yeah, I again, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine if people think I'm a class reductionist. It's okay. Um, anyway, but I like it when you swear it. No, it's not good. I just I hate. I hate those clips are played back and I'm swearing so much because I'm so angry. Not good. What is this? In other news? Yeah, we're going to talk about that. Hold on. Let's finish. Let's wrap this up. But Jocelyn Benson's doing, you know, a defender of democracy, someone who's run very efficient government. I know Republicans who are voting for Jocelyn Benson for governor. So, so you're calling on his own. You're calling on Abdul. I also had to stop campaigning with has on piker noted. I like that even the fox news anchor is like can we move on to something more you know important now um yeah to to hailey stevens i must say what gives i thought we were doing unity hailey i love you hailey stevens i love you hailey stevens i'm a hailey stevens is, Ryder Die Day 1 supporter. Okay. Disavowing famously leads the Fox News and Republicans changing tactics. Yeah. Oh, this is- The Democratic Party has gone Socialists. They've gone Kami Kukku. My question is, what happened to the Democratic Party of 10 years ago? Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim Socialist. President Joe Biden is an Irish car bombing commie bastard Barack Obama or Che Guevara Both sound ethnic in a way. I don't like Hillary Clinton is a socialist who's saying Who's saying Joe mention is a communist? Obamacare more like commie care here discuss making a cane What happened to the party of Bill Clinton today president Obama only drumstruck 12 children making the question Is the president fighting for U.S.? Or fighting for I.S. I.S.? James Carville is a socialist. Here to discuss is the senator from Pennsylvania, John Fetterman. This is real good, Hassan B-Bad. I Quote tweet that video Haley stevens with this video The way she stopped people just from running for Senate and give us all the little said is the nominee for Senate That's my girl dude. That's my girl Haley. I love her. What gives? I love her and I love how she attacks Maddie Maroon. Trump's biggest donor. Okay, I'm done. She's growing on me. growing on me god damn it she's growing on me she's growing on me we got Hasan is live Haley memes already that's a mate okay I'm actually gonna use this in the fucking I have to use it now I have to delete my my previous she's growing on me tweet to post that instead Maddie Maroon! Trump's biggest deodorant! Oh god I and she really is Haley Stevens is growing on me My god, that's my gift. Well, thank you for it Growing I like a fungus. No, I just I love her. I sincerely love her. Okay, I Do I don't think you guys get it. She's growing on me You guys already miss it I already talked about mom Donnie speaking Chinese. Okay, um Does she come to you in your dreams? Yes. Yes. Where's the suit, man? Bro, what the fuck? What the fuck is going on? How is it that I wear no suit for one day and everyone goes, oh, it's over. Suitman is over. We're back. Calm down. Okay. What gives? I will say no suit. I am in a goofier mood. I guess like, you know, the clothes you wear define you to a certain risk, in some respects, because if you saw Mr. Rogers, that a sweater, you'd question it? No, I wouldn't. Autistic people don't like sudden changes lay off. Yeah, I see that. I see that. And I'm also, I'm noticing that. Yeah, the suit meta does work. Older people are now discovering his song because of the pearl clutch information. For me, it turns out they like what he has to say. Literally found a song through the pearl clutching and He's fun and thought provoking. They're scared of him. 65 year old man. Listen to Hassan and like what he says Schumer Jeffries and the corporate Democrats are bought and paid for We need young fresh representation because he's galvanizing millions. I'm a 50 year old grandma and even I follow and listen to what he's saying He's super intelligent. His empathy and is an excellent messenger 50 year old wife suburban mom who's decided to check out Hassan Piker after Sarah Longwell and third way went after him I now listen to him daily and I mentioned him to people in my real life watching the establishment meltdown as wild This is the kind of shit that pisses me off at the Democratic Party. I'm so sick of these neo-con-liberal Democrats faking it while patting their pockets. Checked out Piker because of the hoopla. Someone who said hoopla is now a part of this community. Okay? A person who uses the term hoopla is out here saying, I find it very entertaining and informative and not scary. 63-year-old from Florida. I'll tell you why they fear Assange so much. I never paid much attention to Assange until this year. listen to one of your streams and realize the guy's articulate, smart and genuine. The suit has been working, dude. The suit meta. We're the same age and I say hoopla all the time. A real hullabaloo. A real hoopla. Who's this person and why are they always on my for you page? Oh, this guy, this is a election Twitter, a dork. That's who this is. I don't really care. I mean, sometimes they arrive at like correct conclusions, but it takes a lot of hand-wringing to get them there. It's fine. Fox News is only going to clip this stream for the next two weeks since no suit. Yeah. And what is this new level of cope unlocked? Dude in the sauna told me today that Trump is purposely losing the war in Iran to show China the great powers of difficulty with smaller nations Porcupining he told me Trump is saving us from World War three nuclear war. It's all 40 chests. Apparently that's amazing And I believe that yes That's true Israel is saying this is a I also a couple y'all wanted to see how the ship look I can't look I can't buy them She showers right here. This is where we go. Do you want a carrier in a Navy and say join the Navy, right? Join the Navy. Yeah, look at this. This is crazy. This ain't the worst part. Seen patrocious. They tell us he's a toilet. They look at the toilet. Y'all expecting me to take a doodle in this, y'all? Oh, nah. Y'all crazy. Oh, hell no! Join the Navy, though, right? Join the Navy. Yeah, all right, man. That one is out of order. It seems out of that one. You can't take a doo-doo in that's not a US ship. It's French miss info Yo, my god, that's my old head. I used to work on that boat. My birthing was attached to that shit Bro, here's what's here's what I don't understand. Okay, as my goal talks a big game About how like America should fight Israel's battles and stuff it turns out he would feel right at home in the fucking Navy We should be sending as many gold to the front lines Okay, and his entire fan base to the front lines because this is how he lives anyway. He's not to him. He's like this is my environment Join the Navy as men gold Fuck you doing an Austin, Texas man get on the front lines We should draft as many gold. He will literally he will feel at home Yeah deploy his ass dude His fan base is not American even better. What do you mean? I don't want I don't want my countrymen to go out and And put themselves in harm's way and and go and potentially blow up schools and shit. Yeah put the as many gold Euroid MAGA supporters on the fucking front lines. Deploy them. Deploy them. Send their asses to the front lines instead. Yeah, send the Norwegian MAGA supporters. Send the MAGA supporters from Finland, all the IT specialists that sit at home and watch Asmongold's broadcast When it's like 5am local time for them. That's too high a standard for personal hygiene for Asmongold. I'm just saying, dude. So, um, that's. You know, that's, that's my take. Anyway, speaking of the morale, speaking of the morale. Apparently things are not looking too good. Trita Parsi got an image sent to him from the field. These are messages US servicemen in the Persian Gulf have scribbled on the dust of an aircraft, a lap. Now he reads it wrong, probably deliberately reads it wrong. He goes, be a good guy and do what Israel tells you to. That's not what it says. It doesn't say be a good guy. It says be a good boy. Be a good boy and do what Israel tells you to. This is, I love Israel, I am a good Goyim. Operation Epstein Fury, peace deal number 64 incoming. All this for the Holy Land. Morale seems not so great. This one was my favorite. I love flock cameras. I have no frame of reference. I can't compare to the sentiments of US soldiers in previous conflicts, but I suspect These are new sentiments or at least a new willingness to express them this openly and directly. But as one serviceman told me, what people in the media don't understand when they compare past conflicts to this one is that this operation has no morale behind it. That makes the world of difference. The service members deployed to undesirable locations indefinitely. Read that last part again. No morale deployed to undesirable locations indefinitely. My own conclusion, when a war has no morale behind it, winning means that you simply end it. There's no other winning in such an unjust war. I think the funniest thing is going to be that some like ADL Dickhead is going to demand that the, uh, that the Navy investigate who wrote the finger painting sentiment and they're going to identify anti-Semitism in the military. Okay. That's, that's what's coming after this, which I think is really funny. And I think that will tip it over the head. You will have a mutiny at that point. Okay. Don't put it out there. Oh, that's coming. Are you kidding me? This is exactly a type of shit that like the ADL would try to turn into like this is basically often often look at how anti-semitic our soldiers are. I mean, they're soldiers, not our soldiers. Yeah. The best we can hope for is that they will have to disassemble this aircraft for evidence. Yeah, I mean, look, look. This is This is if you are if you are in any way shape or form paying attention also look at this hold on hold on Wow, I gotta show you some hold on one second one second Hello What's up fartly What are you looking at? Hi Bro's staring at me. Okay, okay. Slowly making our way downtown. Oh, someone wants pets. Hi. Hi. Hello. He was rolling. He basically rolled up in as much dust and mud that he possibly could earlier at the park. It is crazy what this dog gets into. He's judging you. He does look like he's judging me. You can't see his face now, but hi. No, he's coming back for more. You want a piece? Nope. He's like, no, I'm good. What? What? What the hell are you looking at, Farley? What are you looking at, huh? Huh? He's like, nah. Uh, Lemau, he stares at Caroline during room two. He's just monitoring the situation. Both of, both of the dogs are monitoring the situation. Mutiny is not happening in the 21st century. Like what do you mean? Are they gonna come back to go to prison instead of vet pension? Vet pension? Yeah, no, it's not gonna, I think maybe quiet quitting. Maybe not, maybe not mutiny, but maybe quiet quitting, you know, that I can see. Farley is a woke, Farley is a woke one dog. Yeah. What is this? Prices since the start of the year. Oh, it's awesome Anyway, where was I where was I yeah in the midst of all of this in the midst of all of this I love that Fox News of course has nothing else to talk about they can't talk about any of this shit so What they are? What what they're complaining about is is me And weirdly enough, Democrats are also leaning into it. What is this? Hassan Piker rallies with far-left Dems in Florida. Why is this guy in Florida? We don't want him here. Florida doesn't want this bullshit. Keep US dollars in America. It really doesn't matter who wins in the Florida primaries. In the end, the Republicans going to win. I've served on this exact classic carrier. We were doing this shit in 2016. We were running bombing operations on Syria. We are entering a permanent final year of Vietnam level of energy surrounding the military and the war. I don't think anyone's ever going to actually fight for this country anymore after this point. Yeah, I don't think so either. I don't think so either. Obviously these contradictions are, you know, proving our point. For some reason, Fox News thinks you're in Florida. I don't know why. Maybe because I'm wearing my Florida ass gear. Like this is me being a Florida boy. I don't know. I don't think Fox News cares about the truth that much. So that's probably what it is. You know, I don't really, I don't really look too closely to what the Fox news narrative is. If I'm being honest, the anti China slot tubers found a new pivot. You know, it's over for Western civilization when its biggest cheerleaders are using this for their video thumbnail, how China keeps winning by doing nothing. I know I have to say something about this, by the way, a lot of the anti China guys are now basically trying to present themselves as pro china, but reasonable because we're fucking winning. So what they're doing, and this is what max fisher did apparently, Austin ox put me on this max fisher did that video that went super viral. And in the video, he's like talking about how China saved the oil markets and stuff like that. And, and basically, basically now he's like, Oh no, hold on guys, like I'm pro china, but not so pro china, right? he's basically, he had to do this like follow up to be like, here are all the bad things about China. And then in it, and then in that video, he talks about China's Western fans. And he's very directly sub tweeting me. I guess, you know, sub tweeting is indirect. And he basically ends up regurgitating my perspective back in a way where it's like, Oh, well, these guys actually don't care about the state repression in China. And No, that's not that that's never been my argument as a matter of fact I'm fighting state repression in my state here in the United States of America and oftentimes even make comparisons to how we learned the wrong lessons from China So clearly it's not you know It's that it's not my perspective at all. Let's take a look next question comes from viewer felt poop and fart and felt I just want to say it's always a joy to hear from our Dutch viewers Hello in the Netherlands. Hope you're enjoying your raffles felt poop and fart and asks two questions Why does a certain again you guys are cheating with your two questions, but I'm too soft on you two questions Why does a certain portion of the British and presumably more broadly Western leftist idealized China so much? Ignoring it's authoritarianism and abysmal human rights record despite holding other states to you were right too soon and therefore you were wrong Yeah, exactly. It's so awesome for like the last decade. I've been like look China is developing We shouldn't treat it like a foreign adversary. It's responsible for so much trade all around the world Sure, there are a lot of like authoritarian elements There are a lot of state repression that I don't agree with but there's also good lessons that we can learn from the way that they operate a Lot of people don't understand how unbelievably Meritocratic the Chinese system is okay like their pilot program structure is unbelievable they will literally look at two separate provinces and make two separate provinces can compete against one another in terms of development on key industrial targets and then they will just go this one one over the other one so we're just gonna use the one that one and it's really fucking annoying when I say like no that's a good system we should apply that in the United States of America okay when I say that people go oh you want to do to, I don't know, every American what China has done in Xinjiang or some shit. Okay? No, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying learn about what the fuck they're doing. Okay, learn about what they're doing, learn about how the Chinese system works, because it is truly one of the most unique systems on the fucking planet. And then apply certain elements of their developmentary strategy here in the United States of America. But of course that requires punishing capital, that requires dominating capital, which China has done adequately. And that's precisely the reason why we can never do it here. And that's precisely the reason why people get really mad when I say that. Yeah. And my second question is how does China get things built so quickly? Okay. So again, I'm going to take these questions one by one. You might notice I did not actually put the first question up on board and that's because I didn't want people to see it and then fast forward to it to try to like check whether I'm given an answer that is ideologically in line with their beliefs because I want to kind of try to sidestep the ideological side taking that is maybe a little bit implied by this question sorry felt and I want to try try to just like answer it diagnostically, 10,000 foot few. So I think what this question is asking is why is it that some people who maybe identify as leftists, maybe identify as something else doesn't matter? Why do some people hold up China as an ideal, despite China doing things that they criticize in other countries and that would seem to contradict their I do not know a single person that isn't just straightforward larping, that unconditionally looks at Chinese state surveillance and Chinese apprehension methods, Chinese drag nets, and says this is good, we should do it in America. I've never met that person. At most people will say, when they say like critical support for China or whatever, At most, at most, people will compare Chinese domestic policy and state repression to Western domestic policy and state repression. And ironically enough, you know who else does that increasingly more and more, especially in the aftermath of the October 7 universe that we live in in the Western world? Chinese dissidents like Ai Weiwei. He is probably one of the best examples of this, a guy who has been brutalized in Chinese prison for his criticisms of the party who literally fled to Europe and then after October 7 was like, yo, this Israel shits out of control. This is kind of crazy, right? And everyone was like, what the fuck are you saying? We will throw your ass in jail. And he went back to China and was like, well, at least they got high speed rail. Okay. He literally is the perfect guy for where the conversation is shifting. Okay. He He is the guy who is clearly the person who has not only faced Chinese state repression, been a victim to it and has escaped, right? Like not escaped, but like literally went and lived in Europe for the longest time. Ai Weiwei, he's a famous Chinese artist, okay? At LACMA, you know the animal heads that are on pikes? Those are his, those are, that's his art installation, okay? Anyway, he's a super famous Chinese dissonant super famous Chinese artist and he used to do these like I don't know but when Hassan said people Say I want China what China did in Jinjian to be done all over America like 10 people unironically said yeah Yes, cloud district enjoyer. They're fucking larping. They're literally talking about probably doing reeducation for conservatives okay? Which is something that people say when they're frustrated. It's not a sincerely held belief for state policy, okay? That's it. Anyway, jokes are illegal. Jokes are illegal. We're having a serious conversation about China. We can't have any jokes here. So the point I'm trying to make is, the point I'm trying to make is like, no one looks at the Chinese forms of state repression and thinks it's awesome. And the greatest example that I can actually deliver to you is literally the anti-flock narrative in this fucking community. If we liked Chinese forms of state surveillance, Chinese forms of state repression, we'd be all about that flock lifestyle, right? We'd love ICE, which is an even more violent version of that. Because there's also, there's also the, the, the idea that like the Chinese courts don't have the same like Western understanding of due process. Meanwhile, we're eradicating due process here. We're obviously fighting against that here in the United States of America right now. We're trying to make sure that the Trump administration doesn't eradicate due process. Clearly, our position is very clear on this issue, right? But then you look at like policing in every other country except for the United States of America. And the United States of America and its policing practices are unbelievably violent. We have a massive carceral state. We have private prisons. Like, it sounds silly when you make this comparison. Like, there are a lot of elements in China that are unbelievably repressive. Absolutely. But we have a far more militarized police force. We have a far worse carceral structure. Like, it's just always, it always seems to me a way to abdicate our responsibility, a way to just like, you know, silence all criticism to be like, well, look at the Chinese boogeyman. You know what I mean? That's the only comparison. That's the only argument. That's the only conversation that we should be having as Americans. But a lot of people will just go, no, China is like way scarier, way worse, way more ruthless. You love Chinese authoritarianism. And then you just move on with the conversation. It's like, I'm an American. Okay. I'm a motherfucking American. I live in the United States of America. I love this country. I want to make this country better. Okay. So, yeah, I'm busy with the the state repression that we're currently experiencing here in the United States of America As far as comparison to China or learning lessons from China. I'm not talking about fucking drag nets I'm not talking about reeducation camps. I'm talking about fucking high-speed rail and and having a robust development Project to do rapid organization to rebuild their infrastructure to not fucking go wage wars Overseas and spend trillions of dollars doing that shit Yeah, but these guys behave like fucking dullards when it comes to this issue and they go you're a campus. No, I'm not. Okay. If I'm a fucking campus, why am I here? Why am I not in China? Okay. Why am I here? I could live in China. I could and get a fucking visa right now. Go live in China. Why do I live here? Oh, it's because you love American capitalism. No, because I love this country. I love the people in it. I love its promise. I love its potential, and I want to make it better. Okay? That's it. And I know that's an unbelievable concept, but it's very frustrating to hear that from well-educated liberals. It is unbelievably frustrating to hear that from well-educated liberals, because it is still very much a thought terminating cliche, a thought terminating terminology that they deploy to just be like, I don't want to hear anything from you. It's no different than what Steven Crowder says. When Stephen Crowder says like, oh, you love China so much, why don't you go marry it? You love Mao Zedong. Why don't you go marry Mao Zedong? Why don't you go marry Xi Jinping? Go live in China. Fuck you, fuck off, liberal. Like, it's no different when liberals deploy that exact same technique, but they try to utilize different terminology or at least like old school conservative reactionary terminology like campus, okay? Just because you are deploying the techniques of reactionaries from the 60s and 70s and 80s when this when this kind of terminology was more apt because there were two different polls in a multipolar world doesn't mean that you actually have some sort of advanced critique here. You're doing the same dumb thing that, you know, conservatives do case that China is the ideal. And there is actually a name for this. And it's sad because again, I think he's a smart guy. I think Max Fisher is a very smart guy. Okay. I like this video on China. I think he's a smart dude. It's very frustrating when smart liberals, well-read liberals behave this way because you're stunting your own imagination for no reason. Oh, can't this? American exceptionalism has destroyed your way of seeing the world in a more holistic way, seeing the globe as different actors that have their own personal self-interest, and it actually makes your analysis worse overall. That's why you're trailing behind when it comes to, you know, talking about how China actually ended up Stabilizing the oil markets your analysis comes weeks after the financial times your analysis comes weeks after I think originally it was the financial times But we talked about it as well on this broadcast not that it matters because a lot less people listen to me when I talk About it because they just immediately bracket me as you're a China Glazer there. Someone like Jackson Henkel is a 100% campus with no limits at least publicly and people who follow him probably fit in that category as well. Maybe he's talking more about them than he is you. I don't know. No, he's not. He's talking about me. 100% because these guys don't even think about Jackson Henkel. Also Jackson Henkel is not even a campus. He's like literally just an agent of a foreign state. I don't even think Jackson Henkel falls in the category of a campus, he just comes across like a guy who probably works for the Russians to hate at this point. People who do this are called campus. This emerged during the Cold War and it's called campus because it's a way of approaching the world by dividing into two camps, you know, the West and the East, the capitalists, the communists, whatever it is, and dividing it with a mission of arguing that one camp is superior to the other. And And when people do this now, like there are some streamers who do this a lot, specifically with China, I think what they would say is that this is towards a noble goal of highlighting the problems in the West. I think this can come across to people as simplistic or supercritical. People see you holding up China as this obviously superior ideal, including on human rights grounds and you go no one has done that who is doing please i need someone to explain to me how how people are doing this without like regurgitating the same three second clips because like at some point you become a regurgitator of the reactionary propaganda coming from like the daily mail right because this is what i hear from the daily mail where they will like hear me talk in Tiananmen Square about how I'm not a very patriotic person and I'm actually quite shocked at how patriotic Chinese people are and I'm trying to identify where that patriotism comes from right and they'll clip it to be like I'm not a patriotic person at all and it's like yeah I'm not I'm not patriotic for fucking China either I'm just not a patriotic person so it's like it's it's shocking for me to see so many people from the rural countryside literally come to watch the flag raising ceremony that happens every fucking morning. This is an interesting avenue to explore. We should not just allow only the appropriate liberals to be the ones who actually ask these questions, okay? It's not dissimilar to like, you know, Ezra Klein gets to interview the former Australian Prime Minister and they have a very interesting and fairly robust conversation about China, about the ideology driving the Communist Party of China, about Marxist-Leninism. Is it dogmatic? Is it a doctrine that they follow through on? How much have they fallen short of the social experiment? Is it simply just ideology or ideological varnish that they deploy in an effort to keep the public together? Like these are interesting conversations that I also have that I also think about all the time but it's like I can't have this conversation because as soon as I say something like that no it's Kevin Rudd. I'm talking about Kevin Rudd. Kevin Rudd delivered a very interesting one of the best I think conversations that I've seen liberals talk about. two liberals talking about China. And it wasn't, it was an interesting conversation because like Kevin Rudd is obviously like very knowledgeable about contemporary Chinese politics, Chinese history in general. But it's just very, it's very fresh and complete silent on that banger. I know I'm so jealous. I'm so jealous that these guys are China maxing harder than me. Okay, let's let's continue. Wait, China does. Meanwhile, I'm the only one who gets as fucked in this China narrative to that's the other thing. motherfuckers fly to China. They do they work with Chinese companies. They get paid by Chinese companies. Okay, Nobody gives a shit. I am I literally Spend my own goddamn money flying to fucking China everybody goes all you're doing propaganda. You're doing a propaganda tour Only I don't get to talk about China. I'm immediately a China Glazer Incredibly severe human rights abuses that you criticize when Western countries are doing it so it seems like you're not actually motivated by caring about human rights or whatever it seems like you're motivated by wanting to win this made-up team sport of arguing which side is better. Some people also like it because they feel that the West is false in its asserted superiority and it's a way to knock that down a peg or it's a way to reveal the hypocrisy of the West. I don't engage in it personally because I do think that it can come across as a little overly simplistic and also because I don't see my mission as making an ideological argument for which side is better. I see my mission as finding the world, fascinating, loving, learning about it, and wanting to help you all learn about it. Yeah, he's just trying to say that like, oh yeah, my last video that went super viral came across like I was glazing China. Okay, so let me put my distance between all of these other guys that I'm developing a straw man over that are like, in love with China's human rights abuses and love talking exclusively about China's human rights abuses as a positive That's what this was and it was disappointing to see okay. It was a little bit disappointing to see Max Fisher tweeted about your growing problem in media literacies that fewer and fewer people get their news directly and instead get a second hand from social media influencers who lie about what it says yeah i know i uh... i followed him this was from uh... before but what's crazy about this by the way again he is the fucking woke liberal only he gets to talk about china only he gets to talk about you retweeted a fucking stalker account man where's your fucking social media literacy your social media operative you should know a little bit better really Anyway, here's the other side of this though. Here's the other side of the story. Whether pinhead has on at it again, you don't know anything. Okay. Thank you. Here's the problem. I like Max Fisher. I'm going to say it one more time. I like Max Fisher. I think he's a smart guy. Okay. I think he's a smart dude. I think he's a, he has a lot of interesting videos. I'm a fan. Okay. And what's frustrating about his analysis is that there are these forces at play right now where even educated liberals recognize that liberalism is failing, recognize that capitalism is failing, and they're still desperately trying to cling on to some sensibility around reforming it. Okay? So the more they move in our direction, the more they also try to separate themselves from people like ourselves, right? Because they have to still maintain this dogmatic approach, okay? In a time, in a unique media environment that requires you to shed yourself of this dogma, this dogmatic approach of western liberal exceptionalism, okay? You've moved into the bargaining stage and I think what is going on here, what is going on here ironically enough is is the lack of ability, the unwillingness to give up on it, because these guys are very different than MAGA overall, okay? They're very different from like MAGA supporters who don't really think about this stuff at all. As a Chinese person, I hope you guys get more people like him to keep American liberals' heads in the sand. I just... What? Very important news. What is this? Oh my god. She's going through it. Yeah. Here is the reality. Here is the reality. Okay. For the last decade, I've talked about Chinese development in positive terms. And now many liberals who previously were only consuming China is falling apart tomorrow style videos have had to come to terms with that reality, right? And it's never good. It's never good if you just like learned something your whole life. You learned about American supremacy your whole life and all of a sudden this fucking random country out of nowhere that you thought was, you know, a peasant society that was building tofu drug buildings and and eating is sewer lard is actually this fucking behemoth that is no longer ignorable, okay? And it's actually a force for stability in the world, whether we like to admit it to ourselves or not. All of a sudden, that just kind of rips apart your consciousness a little bit, so you have to fight back against the forces that have been there this entire time. This should be a wake-up call. That's why I always brought up the ghost cities as an argument the ghost cities as an example to be like look some of these are Some of these cities that were developed and and they didn't actually bring in new inhabitants, right? And there's a there's failures there for sure okay But ultimately a lot of those ghost cities are no longer ghost cities or tier one cities There's like tens and millions of people that have moved into these cities, right? There's a lot of economic activity at these places. That was bad analysis That was bad analysis. It wasn't good analysis. It was bad analysis because it was shrouded with like anti-China bias. And that's what's frustrating. That's what's frustrating about a lot of these Western analysts. I just want them to be a little bit more open-minded. The idea that there's nothing we can learn from Chinese development is very dumb, is very silly. And the additional idea that like, like, I think if Max Fisher truly gave a real honest listen to what I have to say, I don't think we would be ideological enemies on the internet. I think he would be in the Ezra Klein camp, where he's like curious about building a broader coalition with people like myself, even though many people in this community would say that these are like people who are ideologically opposed. Okay, the same thing with the podjohns. Yeah, I don't think these people know what your actual beliefs are. They see the clips. They're not stream watches. Exactly. And they get deluded into thinking that I am a firm and committed believer into like this this meme They have this like meme approach You know what I mean? They think I'm like because I because I lean into the to the jokes because I lean into the LARPing and shit like that. They're like, oh he this guy is Is a Maoist third-world this or something? I don't know Holy fuck. You're so naive sometimes. No, I'm not naive. I'm pragmatic. Okay? We can always learn things from people whose ideologies we oppose. Many of you shut yourself off. I consume a lot of liberal thinkers, and I consume the content of a lot of reactionary thinkers as well. There's not, I can't even call them thinkers at this point, obviously, they're just, they're just propagandists. I don't know. I don't know how to explain it. But, but ultimately yes, it's not an accident. I listen to a lot of liberals. Of course, I listen to a lot of liberals. They fucking still run this goddamn country. Okay. It's important. It's important to listen and learn and understand what motivates a lot of, um, you know, what motivates a lot of liberals in general. Brother, what the fuck did you post on Twitter? What do you mean? What are you talking about the Haley Stevens post? Know your opposition and deconstruct the world of you to be effective. I know people people are just like nope I'm closing my eyes and ears. These are my enemies that are not Also, in a messaging environment that is unbelievably contentious to our side, we can't cast aside people who are at least open-minded. Okay? That's it. And some of you think the only way to do that, some of you think the only way to do that is by being fucking ruthless, being cunning, being annoying. not the way to do it. Social inoculation plays a big role in this, okay? Anyway, whatever. I'm done talking about this. This stuff is too inside baseball. It's a need to know basis. If you can't understand what I'm doing, then it's fine. Don't. But in any case, yeah, This is, this is reliable, you know, it's over for Western civilization, but its biggest cheerleaders are using this for their video thumbnail. You are way more pro-China than me, it's kinda annoying sometimes, but it doesn't make me like you less. One day you will arrive at the conclusions that I arrived at a long time ago, but I'm glad that you're charitable and open-minded to my perspective regardless. This is another, like, look, look, many of you were frustrated at first with my analysis on Israel-Palestine, and you very quickly snapped back the reality, you very quickly understood what I was saying wasn't wrong. Same with Iran. you probably when you first encountered my commentary around waging war with Iran, you were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're the most powerful military on the planet. What the fuck are you talking about? Of course, we're going to destroy Iran. Shut the fuck up. And then you very quickly realized, because you were charitable, you very quickly realized, oh shit, he's actually right. This is another area where I am 100% right to treat China as a foreign adversary and to under, to underestimate its capability, underestimate its prowess at every step is stupid. To undermine it is stupid. Okay? It's dumb. And more and more liberals, especially because of the deteriorating material conditions here in the United States of America and broadly in the Western world, and the improving material conditions in China will inevitably come to that conclusion. It's just, it's going to happen. It might not happen today. It might not happen tomorrow, But it will inevitably happen. And I think more and more Natsik people are basically moving away from that adventurism due to Trump's actions in Iran. The adventurism and the militant posture against China is done, is over. Okay? It's done. You wanna know why? Because we showed our ass in the Strait of Hormuz, our ambitions to to advance against China in a militant manner, died in the straight of Hormuz. Anyone that still advances this narrative is utterly delusional, and I don't think there's going to be a lot of appetite in the Natsuk side of things for this, unless there is a tremendous technological breakthrough that America achieves, and it's less likely than ever before for America to achieve a technological breakthrough because we are destroying our publicly funded research facilities right now because we are eroding our technological edge currently. We're destroying it right now. Donald Trump is doing that right now. So I don't even think that there's any capacity that we have to, you know, find something out there, so it has some sort of crazy technological breakthrough that allows us to have a competitive edge against China in the near future. Yeah, this is what our facilities look like. More pictures from aboard the moldy old USS George Washington we recently underwent incredibly expensive complex overhaul that took nearly six years to finish. Our Navy is like this because we only have one shipyard capable of refueling and repairing a nuclear aircraft carrier. You want to know why our Navy looks like this by the way? Because the fucking executives yachts look mint. That's where the money is going. If you wonder why the Navy looks like this, it's because they don't care about military prowess, military readiness. They care about profit, and shitification has also destroyed the last remaining competent organization in the goddamn country, okay? Our carriers look like this, so their yachts can look like this. The military industrial complex does not operate on survivability, there's no existential threat that is seeking to eliminate, it operates on profit, that's it. And that's precisely the reason why this shit sucks, okay? It is a trillion-dollar money sink, and that money doesn't go back to the actual operations. The money goes to executive pockets. The U.S. Navy's literally outsourcing ship design and ship construction to South Korea as we speak. Donald Trump had to change the laws for the United States to allow it. Yeah, it's going to get worse, by the way. going to get worse is going to get worse. What is this? Okay, good. Seems to be like it's all over looks at death that occurred because of Mao Zedong, but I'm also new to watching a stream. So I may have missed this. Oh my God. This is also the problem with like with I guess live broadcasting subscribe and you can rewind to hear what I had to say about that aspect because I didn't just start talking about China. Okay, this is not like a new thing. What is this? Yeah, I can report there are a lot of new mangers going up in McLean life is grand for the war profiteers. Yeah. So their homes look like this, okay? Someone give me a fucking, like, someone give me a mega yacht from one of these guys that's a profiteer. Like the people who actually, you know, the people who actually do, uh, uh, McClain, sorry, not McLean, did I say McLean McClain? I I don't see what the troops are complaining about. Didn't they get 1776 in a speech only? Yeah, that's right. That's right. The artillery shell scheme also ended up making zero shells, even for someone who's been following MIC hijinks for years. This was an insane read. ProPublica writes, rather than rely on tried and true methods, general dynamics propose a new production line to build artillery shells for Ukraine, the army signed up to buy three without knowing if the machinery would even work. Biasco in the factory, taxpayers funded a $533 million artillery plant that made nothing. Oh, this is what I'm talking about. It's fucking blow, baby. It's blown all the way down, dude. It's bloat all the motherfucking way down Waste fraud abuse these motherfuckers are dude. You know what's crazy about this like Nick Shirley will go to Minneapolis and be like oh, it's just some all these that are doing fraud brother brother The every single minority enclave in this country could get together and scheme out a design to steal money from white people and it wouldn't be a fraction of the defense bloat that we're talking about. Not even a fraction, okay? If they got together and they were like, let's do anti-white schemes. Let's just steal from white people. If they got together and they got their top minds together and they were trying to do like adult day care, child day care, whatever, okay? And they were like, let's just keep overbilling the government. Let's feel as much money as possible. It wouldn't be a fraction of the trillion dollar waste, fraud, and abuse that you get from the American military. Okay. Huh. Billionaire on a hundred million dollar yacht. Joking about us peasants. Pamper the guests. A casual selection of sandwiches for lunch. Even if on board, everything costs a small fortune. I don't like this. When you get finished with China, glasses, towels, sheets, things like that. Cheats things like that spend more than a million dollars I have a joke if the rest of the world Learns what it's like to live on a yacht like this. They're gonna bring back the guillotine there it is man there it is that's where that's where the money's going that's where the motherfucker money's going baby it's not going to the artillery it's not going to fix the goddamn ships ah The military industrial recirculate. No jokes detected. What is this? Here's the most popular dumb fuck finding out. What about the military drones? Those contracts, when this war started. You can look into who who made money on that one who made money on that one wait a minute What did you are you? This has got to be a mistake We're doing Eric and Don Jr. Invest in military drone company amid Iran war is it Jamie? Where'd you find that seems like? Propaganda from Iran or something dog she's had every defense profiteer on his broadcast by the way which is so wild to me like he had he had egg boy on not Maddie Glacier is the other one the conehead you know Mark Andrews in right he had him on I think he had Palmer lucky on who do you think those guys are what do you think they're doing you You know, Peter Thiel, the Antichrist. It's just so crazy. He's like, oh, I can't believe it, but like, yeah, you can believe it. You better believe it, brother. You've done propaganda for them. You've made your chud audience actually like these guys. Oh, these guys are cool. Alex Karp, Alex Karp's been on the fucking Joe Rogan experience. You know what I mean? The ruling class is poisoning your air, your food, your drink. US public does nothing. Yeah, it's just, why? Why don't they do anything? Because we have a well-oiled propaganda apparatus in the form of mainstream media that makes you fucking get mad at people like me, who's calling this shit out? What do you think is going on? For the last couple of months, Donald Trump has brought about skyrocketing inflation since the start of this year, endless destabilization. energy markets are completely, completely flaming out. We're running out of our strategic petroleum reserves in order to keep up with the energy needs as we have basically crippled 20% of the world's entire world's energy supply. So, someone has to make up for it. And what the fuck is mainstream media talking about? Goddamn Twitch streamers calling this out and people love it people love it and before me it was transgenders and before me it was Antiva you know before me was the war on Christmas and people fall for it all the goddamn time and then they asked Donald Trump sir mr. president don't you care our soldiers are trying to kill themselves they're trying to fucking kill themselves on the on on the deck of USS Abraham Lincoln, he goes, I don't care. I'm not apologizing. And it doesn't matter. It's the Mexicans, you know? It's woke-ism. It's the Mexicans. It's the undocumented migrants. Please do not look. No matter what happens, do not look at the capital owners. Do not look at the profiteers, okay? Do not. Haitians are eating cats and dogs. Let's talk about that instead. That's what it is. People fall for it every single time. People fall for it every single time on our side as well. Because the reality of the matter is, we end up talking about it. Because the Republicans will bring it up and they'll drive discourse in whichever direction they wanna talk about. And then we talk about it too. Although I agree with you, you definitely don't do yourself favor with some of these clips. Yeah, brother, I've talked for 22,000 hours, okay? about these contentious issues, the reason why they're putting the crosshairs on someone like myself is not because I leave myself open for that kind of thing. The reason why people generate controversy off of it is because it's a very easy way to make people snap into action. It's a very easy way to distract people. It's a very easy way to go, you know what? I heard that clip and I don't like it because guess what? No one, and I mean no one wants to go. Why the fuck do I care about a Twitch streamer? What are you talking about, dumbass? The president is a goddamn pedophile. Like, what are you talking about? About a left-wing Twitch streamer is supposed to be carrying my attention right now? I can't pay for rice, wheat, cotton, wool, rubber. Sunflower oil is up 17%. Palm oil is up 16%. Cheese is up 16%. Tea is up 15%. Soybeans are a 14 percent. Why the fuck do I care about some goddamn twister or what are you fucking crazy that? That is what the average person is supposed to say, but unfortunately Unfortunately, everybody loves these kinds of silly Media distractions they love it. That's why they do it and the words of I think it was the the Clinton camp You know if the Republicans are using it that means they've tested it Okay, and of course the republicans have tested it. It doesn't mean it's the best example that they have it doesn't mean it's supposed to be successful It can only be successful if our side if the broader liberals make it successful if MSN if MS now Leans into this narrative and goes yeah, you know what we should be talking about disavowing VSA disavowing the left disavowing a Sompiger. What are you talking about man? What are you talking about? Disavow the left? What power does the left have? It's ridiculous. And it blows my mind because I try to get like I try to get the liberals that are at least somewhat sympathetic to our side to lock in a little bit, right? bit, right? To lock in a little bit, to understand the moment that we're in by trying to bring up partisan narratives. I try to say look at the hypocrisy. Can you imagine if Joe Biden was like, I don't care about prices, Jack, I don't care if our soldiers are dying. Can you imagine if Joe Biden said that? Can you imagine if Joe Biden said anything, anything that Trump says with regular frequency, what people would do, what the Republican party would do with that information. Imagine if Obama was like, I don't care if our soldiers are having a tough time on our Aircraft carriers? It's okay? For you to pay a tiny little bit more for your gasoline. You're at $4. It's okay. I'll never apologize. I'm having to choose between gas and food and fare. I have family members who are ill and I can't go visit Dr. Francis State or a court because it's too expensive right now to drop. For you to pay a tiny little bit more for your gasoline. You're at $4. It's okay. Can you imagine dude dude dude dude dude Brandon if Brandon said I did NATO I Did NATO who cares if the price is a little bit higher. I did NATO Jack if Brandon said that they would be like Brandon didn't say that and the Republicans still wanted to kill him Oh my god, what would Fox News do with that sound bite? Oh my god Oh my god, they would nut. We would never hear anything else other than just that sound bite. We talk about Marie Antoinette, the let-me-cake moment. Donald Trump is telling people, eat shitcakes on a daily basis. And no one seems to care. It blows my mind. blows my goddamn mind. Learn to download tiktoks and post them as responses on Twitter. No, it's fine. Asashi never said that I'm crying. I know, I know, I know, I know, Marie Antoinette has was falsely smeared as saying, let them eat cake. It was misunderstood, whatever. I don't care. I'm just using the common trope. Okay. Anyway, Neywall, our boy, Oliver went back on Fox news and absolutely cooked. And so did Elijah. So we're going to watch that real quick while I go pee. Oliver Larkin. So all of our listen you still doing the shea smirk but on the show You know it takes some some guts to do so so I want to say thank you and a lot of respect to you for doing it You know I've done a little bit of research into your district there and and aside from all the things that are making headlines with you and of Course the incumbent in the race. I just have to ask you know my Mother-in-law fled Cuba Because of the socialist communist takeover so I know in your district there's a lot of folks like my mother-in-law, a lot of Cubans, a lot of Venezuelans that left socialism, that fled communism, and it kind of sounds like you want to bring it all right here to the USA and to Florida. How do you square that with a lot of those constituents in Florida that have a similar story? I think what a lot of our constituents that have come from places like Cuba or Nicaragua or Venezuela that have seen United States foreign policy. We've had a blockade on Cuba and a trade embargo for 70, 80 years nearly. And what we've seen in that time is the repression of trade and of really with our closest trade partner. And we see a repression of political and civil rights that we actually see emanating from the Trump administration right now. We see crackdowns on freedom of speech. We see representative Randy Fein and Laura Loomer trying to cancel our rally last night, uh, along with corporate Democrats, like state representative Michael Gottlieb. So I think the conditions that a lot of people, uh, flee places like Cuba, coming to America, looking for a better life. Um, it's actually quite scary to see a Republican administration that's going after our freedom of speech and, uh, freedom of expression. And we're fighting. That was a great flip. By the way, you're like, Oh, you're talking about repression in places like Cuba will guess what, or Venezuela. Yeah. You know who's doing that the Republican Party right now, the people like me, like it's, it's perfect, perfect flip. Getting for the American dream. They keep re inviting him because they think it's a plus for Republican district and they think foolishly that he would be easier to beat than Jared Moskowitz. That's why they keep inviting him. If you want to know the truth, there's two reasons. One, because it actually draws a lot of clicks and it's great. He's great on television. And the other reason is because they think foolishly that he is easier to defeat for the Republicans in a plus R4 district than Jared Moskowitz is. Because the district, if you look at it, is not actually comprised of Cubans. If you look at the district demographics, I believe Cubans are like 5% of the population. There's a lot of Hispanic people in their district. And then there's a lot of very wealthy Jewish people who are super pro-Israel in the district. And that's the Jared Moskowitz base, right? Jared Moskowitz base comes from a lot of right wing on foreign policy, American Jews that live in the district. However, where there are old Jewish folk that are pro-Israel, there are a lot of young Jewish folk that are not pro-Israel. And there's also a lot more people in the district as well beyond that. So even if it makes, who's going to tell Hassan Cuba's a Hispanic dude, dude, dude, dude. We're talking about Florida. Okay. Sorry. I know the Florida demographics are different than anywhere else in the country. The Florida, Latino and Hispanic demographics are very different than anywhere else in the country in terms of their voter patterns. Okay. In terms of where they vote, how they vote. It's almost flipped. It's like topsy-turvy upside down. so i'm gonna let you know the rest of the panel here ask you some questions i'm not gonna filibuster the whole time but i do have to say you know in my mother-in-law and so many others led cuba or venezuela they didn't flee because of donald trump it's like because of socialism and communism in that form of economic governance that you're trying to bring here so i just wanted to correct the record for that because uh... blaming that on trump is kind of rich but i'm gonna let the rest of the team take a crack at Yeah, I mean, I think he's very clear with what he's saying. He's like, look, you're talking about your parents like fleeing a certain form of repression. Well, Donald Trump is channeling that repression here in the United States of America. So I'm certain that your Cuban relatives would probably be just as worried about Trump. It's not fucking real. Obviously, they don't care. They love the repression that Trump pushes, but it doesn't matter. It's a good tactical retort. Again, we appreciate you coming on. Yeah, Mr. Larkin. So I did a little research myself. Some of these numbers you may have a better idea on. But one of the things on your platform is free college for all. You're advocating for socialism, but you want free college for all. Okay, you want taxpayers to pay for other people's tuition, fair enough. But I mean you you went to a school that's almost $80,000 a year private school to become an English teacher to make $60,000 a year, which is national average We have a deficit of trade skills making 70 80 90 thousand dollars HFAC electrician Pipe fitter you name it Alignment the state of Florida has a scholarship program if you just stay in state and go to a state school So I guess my question is why are you out here advocating for socialism in a state where capitalism does work? Well, it seems like you hadn't really tried it yourself. Well, we have a higher cost of living in the Miami metropolitan area now than New York City. And we've had 30 years of Republican rule in Tallahassee. So this stark income and wealth inequality where we see my district, the 25th congressional district, having the highest concentration of billionaires in the country. At the same time, we see the poverty rate going up and we have tens of millions of people in this country with student loan debt. So I believe that we need free public college and university tuition and also free tuition at vocational and trade schools with support for union apprenticeships so that we can rebuild America. Okay, so you're talking about union apprenticeships, so at least you acknowledge that trades matter, but you want us to go and pay off the debt of people who went to a $70,000 a year of school to earn $60,000 a year for the trade or the skill that they picked. It seems to me like through your own experience, you wouldn't be out there beating the the drone for people to maybe forego a private school or a four year college and go to a trade school, learn how to be a lineman, learn how to be a welder, learn how to do the blue collar trades that pay very well, especially in the south and right to work states. The United States can more than afford to forgive college loan debt and to make tuition free. I can. I can. We're spending one to two billion dollars a day on this illegal war with Iran. It's not the United States. It's Billy Jones. Right? It's you. It's everybody that makes more money. We're on track to spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year on a war that Congress never authorized that Donald Trump dragged us into that is raising our prices on gasoline, on food, on groceries. Would you at least exempt those that went to private school that cost more than they could make in a year in the profession they fit? I'm talking about making public university tuition free so private institutions continue to do what they like. Like I said I think that public university should be tuition free but private institutions can I choose to do as they may and I'm not running to abolish private universities, but that's in the future. We'll get there. Do you think that in the United States when we have tens of millions of people, when we invest in our educational system, when we invest in our economy, that economic output is more than multiplied by the output of people who are better educated or have the vocational or trade apprenticeships that can go in and produce in the economy? Well Oliver at least a booth here it's interesting that you say that because you've attended some of the most elite Institutions in the country as Joey pointed out Phillips Academy. It's one of the most prestigious boarding country or Boarding schools in the country. You also went to Swanee, which is very preppy very elite a lot of wealthy people Go to school there So some people might look at that and maybe think you're a little bit of a hypocrite on some of this stuff But I better ask you why do you think you're entitled to other people's money? I'm not entitled to anyone else's money. I'm talking about universal programs that we all pay into many of your viewers that Support programs like Medicare and Social Security that Well when we have like I said one to two billion dollars a day that we're spending on an illegal war with Iran We can more than afford this we've spent two trillion dollars on wars with Iraq and Afghanistan and that I was seeing in the previous segment, we're now talking about the downfall of the United States foreign policy regime that really just replaced the Taliban with the Taliban. So we've seen so much of our blood and treasure go into foreign wars overseas that have not made Americans safer. And we've seen it declining state of the living. Can you still not explain what you think you're entitled to other people's money? I'm not entitled to anyone else's money. I'm talking about universal programs that we all pay into. and for the millions of Americans that are struggling with affording the cost of their children's college education or paying down their student loan debt, when we invest in the American people that economic output is more than multiplied. When we see their educational attainment, their trade school, their vocational programs, all putting money back into the economy with greater labor productivity, we're seeing a real affected, negatively affected jobs program in this country. The economy with people no longer seeking work. But let me ask you this, you know, as someone you who have attended some of these elite institutions that most Americans can never afford, they can never even dream of affording. How can you sit there and talk about income and equality and talk about some of these different things when you're the living definition of someone who has experienced great privilege of some of these incredible. It's always like, oh, rich socialist, you're a privileged socialist. Like it doesn't even matter. No, you're a hypocrite. You're a hypocrite. I find this rather odd. I mean, this has been my whole life, right? I've heard this my entire life. I heard this my entire life. It's just like the argument always revolves around like be You know, if you're in a if you're in a position of privilege like don't try to use that position for good Don't try to use that position to advance To advance society in a meaningful way Just shut the fuck up and enjoy the show shut up. Why are you speaking out? Why are you speaking out against the system that is giving you endless bounty and again? I find that to be a very strange position. Zen fascism as Matt Crisman calls it. Yes. Right? I've given up on trying to explain to people my class position. I just, I think it's much better to just say I'm a class trader. Right? I think that Americans will never understand it in general, so I'm just gonna start saying I'm a class trader Yeah, I'm a class trader you wish more rich people would be like me if more rich people will be like me We live in a fucking utopia. Okay, if every rich person thought the way I did we would literally live in a goddamn utopia Okay, do you want rich people to behave like I do believe the things that I do or do you want them to believe the things that? They currently believe that has led to your economic demise That is only advanced your struggle. That's it I'm just gonna lean into that going forward. I gave you a brief taste of that earlier Last night because they were trying to do this like reheated nachos bullshit has some plikers flying the private jet the cool Shelly's a hypocrite just like Bernie Sanders and AOC are I said I was making 60k a year in 2017 We're in a war show charted this for David Dobrik And that was one of the nominees and they asked me if I wanted to write I said yes If I was MAGA, Sigma, Grimeset, YouTuber who sells a bullshit course online, you'd treat me like your god. They're going through the different periods of Hassan Piker controversy. It's very funny. Up next, he has an expensive home. Up next, he has an expensive car. And they're just going to reheat the same controversy cycles that I've gone through for years and years. So I'm just gonna keep repeating it over and over again. I'm just gonna say the same thing over and over again. Yeah, I'm rich and I believe the things that I believe in and I'm advancing these causes, okay? I'm advancing these causes. Do you want rich people to believe the things that I believe or do you like the current system? Because the current system is one where the overwhelming majority of super wealthy people that control sighting, not Twitch streamers, like actual people who control society. Those who are in tremendous positions of power and privilege, they very clearly have tremendous disdain for you. Okay, they have tremendous disdain for you. That's the reason why you're suffering. Hassan Piker calls climate change a real human cause and driven mainly by capitalism plus the fossil fuel industry calls personal carbon footprints a distraction invented by big oil pushes systemic fixes like public energy ownership and ending private jets and cruises links extreme weather fires and floods directly to it boom it's very interesting you would fly private quite often then oh well i don't but who cares sure sure buddy i do i love when these uh when these guys like lean into grok and grok dunks on them but they're too stupid to understand that grok is like you know opposing the the the position that they're trying to get out of it huh history repeats itself is a very different meaning now online yet quite often yeah i'm i'm basically flying like taylor swift My argument has always been simple. I am unbelievably privileged, okay? I am unbelievably fortunate. My job is basically like winning the lottery every single day, okay? And I never take it for granted. And from my position, I don't think people should have to be winning the lottery every single day to have some autonomy in their lives, okay? To have a little bit a time off when they, when they want to spend time with their friends and family. They have disposable income to enjoy things, to purchase treats, to find some meaning in their lives. That's my argument. Okay. That's my argument. That is literally my argument. My argument is, look, it's, it's crazy. It's crazy to have to be insanely lucky to get to this position of of power and privilege. That's not any way to live. We have an abundance of treats and a surplus of food. It doesn't make any sense that there are, in the wealthiest nation on earth, there are people, 600,000 of them that are sleeping outdoors every night. That makes no sense. And the private jet controversy is even extra funny when it's the Republicans advancing Because when Donald Trump got gifted a $500 million private jet from the Qataris, okay? What are you talking about? It quite literally is like, oh no, if you simply ran around, if you simply ran around saying like, no, it's not those super wealthy that are at fault here. It's not the systems that are at fault here. It's actually Mexicans. These guys would treat me like I'm their god, okay? They would literally look at me like I am their god. They would treat me like a deity. They'd be like, oh, he's so base. He's so handsome. He works out unlike those pussy ass lip tards. He's so strong. And he's showing people how to be an alpha dog. That's what they would say. But of course, because I want to advance humanity, unlock the potential of so many people that are currently being left behind due to our ridiculous system that we operate under, the economic organization of society that we operate under that has a cost of demand to oppress a permanent underclass so that the capital owning class can make unbelievable super profits, okay? Because that's the system we exist under. They turn around and they go, oh, you're a libtarded pussy. You're gay, you're woke. Yeah, if only I ran around saying I got mine, now it's time to fucking pull the ladder up. Then they would love me. I have nice things and I want others to be able to have nice things as well. What is this Larkin is winning Florida 25 a Trump 9 plus 2 seat is essentially gifting at the Republicans on a silver platter. I don't really get progressives goal here if they wanted to see in South Florida debut awesome. Michelle seed is a far better option to focus on. We are focusing on both. We're focusing on both. Adam Carlson. This has been a confusing one for me too. From what I've seen, some on the left genuinely think Larkin is more electable because it supports generally popular policies like Medicare for all and or being more lefty makes him more electable in a cycle like this. But most of what I've seen is a bit more nihilist along the lines of neither can win. So let's humiliate Moscovitz who's a ghoul about Israel and a notch another democratic socialist primary win. And the Dems don't need to see the majority anyway. So fuck that guy. It's crazy to think a Democrat can't win a Trump plus nine district in this national environment, even in Florida. And while Dems should take back the house with a generic ballot like this, being that overconfident, 2.5 most is extremely dangerous thinking. The newly drawn district is one of the most Jewish and likely one of the most pro-Israel districts in the country. Moscow is being a pro-Israel hardliner is not out of touch with his district. While Moscow is easily one of my least favorite members of the house. Dem caucus, in my opinion, is pretty clear that he's one of the only one who can potentially hold the seat. Yeah, I don't think that's, I think that, that comes from the classic scared money don't make no money analysis. Okay. probably elite institutions. So how do you square that hypocrisy? I certainly have attended some prestigious institutions and I'm very proud of the background that I come from. My father is a retired United States Army captain who was able to to attain his college education through the ROTC program. And when we see what the United States military service was able to provide for my family to climb out of the lower middle class and really attain a level of economic achievement in this country to be able to invest in their children, I'm very proud of my background. And I'm gonna stand by it. And I believe that the motto of Phillips Exeter Academy of non-Siby, not for oneself is something that I'm putting back into public service and seeing that we do not need to just restrict the highest levels of educational attainment to private institutions in this country, that we can invest in public education so that we can all stand a benefit from the really robust educational infrastructure that I enjoyed growing up. I want to see every single American be able to enjoy that same thing. And I think most of the viewers would also want their children, their grandchildren. Well, not if we're continuing this illegal war with Iran that we're six months into that even a majority of Republican voters think is just a catastrophe. Oliver, appreciate you coming on, Clay Travis here. You're obviously very concerned with giving people as many benefits as possible, but you also want to abolish ICE, where $40 trillion in debt, presumably a lot of the free tuition would potentially under your plan go to illegal immigrants. We know roughly there are at least 20 million people illegally in this country. Should there be borders? What would be too much illegal immigration for you? Fifty million? A hundred million? You talked about Cuba. You talked about Nicaragua, Venezuela. Should we take all of Latin America inside of our borders? Where would you draw the line when it comes to who we should welcome in this country? I would draw the line at stopping these crushing sanctions regimes that Donald Trump has leveled down. Okay, I understand you want to talk about Iran and sanctions and everything else, but just pure numbers. What is a number where you Oliver in South Florida would say, you know what, we've got too many people who aren't citizens of the United States. Right now, it's 20 million. Is that not enough? Would you do 50 million? Would you do 100 million? How many people do you think the United States should- I mean, look, the answer that I would give to this question is very simple. The unlimited migration patterns into the United States of America is our design. It's the design of the capital owning class. They clearly benefit from having a constant flow of migrants that they can use and abuse as the permanent underclass that depresses wages for the documented workers in this country as well. What we want to do is offer conditional MCs that's super popular, way more popular than mass deportations, way less costly than mass deportations, and offer them a more just piece of the pie. So that we all, as the American working class, can advance. We all, as the American working class, can take ownership over our own productive forces. Take more from what we create, what we generate. As far as the number of migrants coming in, the reality of the matter is, nobody wants to leave their homes. People leave their homes. leave their culture and their language and their families behind only because we have destroyed these countries. So it plays just as you can't really have free health care without free college education so that doctors are not saddled with hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt just to become a doctor. You can't have a more humane border process without a more humane foreign policy, a policy that focuses on making sure that people's material conditions and material needs are met in the global self. Take in, and how many of them do you think we should provide free college for? What's the number? When would you, Oliver, say, you know what, that's too many? I think that we should follow in the footsteps of Ronald Reagan's immigration policy and grant amnesty to the millions of people that are living and working. million people are here. So you're going to give 20 million currently in America illegally citizenship, but wouldn't that incentivize hundreds of millions of more people to come into America? I'm just asking, when is the number that you Oliver Larkin would say, Hey, there are too many illegals coming in this country. Should we bring in all of Mexico? Should we bring in all of Venezuela? Like what is the number where you would say, Hold on, this is getting. Is 20 million the number of Hispanic people in America? No, $20 million is the number that these guys have arrived at for undocumented migrants in the United States. $65 million is the number of Hispanics in America. A little bit too expensive for the 50% of Americans who actually pay. It's, yeah, no, inflation. Inflation is born out of the migrant crisis is the biggest bullshit. It's the classic, it is the classic trope, the classic lie. Don't look at who's actually driving up prices. Don't look at greedflation. Look at the Trump administration's decisions that have actually skyrocketed prices for common goods that we need for survival and just Immediately reorient the blame and the focus back to undocumented migrants is fucking bullshit a federal income taxes to be paying Yeah, immigrants are the reason my gas is four dollars a gallon brother really that's interesting because I could have I Could have sworn it was the war in Iran that that shut off the Strait of Hormuz, but I don't expect we're going to see much more immigration for Mexico when you think they will stop. Hold on, why would they stop if they get the college citizen? Increasing homeownership. But you think that's the kind of thing that we're looking for. Hold on, there's actually a pretty decent response to, I mean, probably an audience that's not going to be receptive to that. But I guess I was wrong. You think life in Mexico is so good that Mexicans are going to stop coming here? What I'm saying is that there are governments outside of the United States that are investing in their people. I believe that we need secure borders that we have that we have safe immigration because if you're doing such a good job in those countries, why are they coming here? I don't understand your argument. You think Cuba has more civil rights than the United States? Why are people getting on floating rafts and risking their lives to get here if those countries are so well run? Because Donald Trump has the Navy blockading the island of Cuba from even a team of wild people. That doesn't even logically make sense. It just means that people are even more aware of what we're talking about here. And of course, of course- I just got back from Mexico. They do not want to come to America at all yet. The more material conditions improve in Latin American countries, even in Mexico, right? the more material conditions improve in Mexico, the less likely Mexicans are to come to the United States of America. Is that fucking simple? Of course, what we need in the United States is for Donald Trump, this administration, the Department of Homeland Security, all of us, I think you should move to Cuba and run for president there and see how your campaign goes, because you might be more welcome there. We have half of the nation's TPS holders from Haiti that are living in Florida that Donald Trump and Cristino are ripping off. That's vulgar and it also doesn't make a lot of sense. Okay, but thank you. Thank you for the suggestion of what I should say to Bobby alters. The way you're all over. You might still struggle. I don't stop. I'm a socialist. Bar, we'll continue to discuss. I mean, he absolutely cooked. But once again, you can, you can measure his success. You can measure a success in how, uh, increasingly silly they get in, in retaliation. Okay. The more the more he actually puts forth a coherent narrative, the more he puts forward a coherent narrative, the more the the more belligerent they get, the more they try to chop them down. You know what I mean? The desk is full of chattering monkeys. They're such babies. Holy shit. Yeah. Yeah. You can measure Oliver's success or any democratic socialist on Fox News's success by how loud the panel gets. Can you maximize your Google Chrome? I got the Tism. I don't know what you mean by that. Oliver, listen. Thanks so much for having me on. We have a lot of questions for you. We appreciate you being a good sport. Absolutely. It's easier for them to blame someone else with their problems than to admit that they're part of the problem. Immigrants are the popular target. They built an economy that depends on immigrant labor that made it almost impossible to immigrate legally. A lot of people like that power that it gives them. It's a lot easier to exploit workers when they're disposable. Yes, our two-tier immigration and our two-tier labor system is unbelievably beneficial for the bosses and not so beneficial for the workers. And it's beneficial in two-fold, okay? As long as you keep hitting the immigrants or responsible for this or that narrative, then you can justify their oppression. You can justify not offering them a pathway to citizenship, because if they all became citizens, then the bosses wouldn't actually do as well. The bosses and their profits would not look the way that they do. However, the rest of the labor force, as well as the migrant labor, actually be able to demand a bigger piece of their productive output. They would be able to demand a bigger piece of the products that they generate. That's the problem for these guys, okay? Why won't you maximize your screen? What are you hiding? What? I don't know what you're saying. Yeah, they got Hassan Abbey's in the Navy. Look, I'm not I'm not taking credit for Operation Epstein fury in the Navy Okay, that's a it's a common Common meme that more people than just people in this community know about okay Do you think having cans like Oliver Larga in Florida who excite their bases might help sway their statewide Senate race for Angie Nixon? Sure, I think it works hand in hand. But I mean, we'll see. We'll see what happens. Okay. We'll see what happens. happens with Larkin's race, we'll see what happens with Elijah Manley's race here, Elijah Manley also on Fox News. Are we ready for Medicare for all? Are we ready to end US military into Israel and end this genocide? We are running to abolish and prosecute ICE. There was a world where we didn't have ICE not long ago. We do not need a hyper-militarized gang of people running through the streets chasing people. Now is the time for us to meet this oppression with resistance. Left Democrats, including our next guest, making their final pitch in Florida ahead of TJ's primary, where three candidates, two of them socialists, are trying to prove how far the progressive wing can go beyond deep blue districts. the Democratic House candidate and self-declared socialist. Elijah Manley joins us now. Elijah, good morning. Thank you for joining us. What do you see as the centerpiece? What do you see as the top priorities in your campaign? And I think we've got that correct that you identify as a socialist. What are your top priorities? Yeah, well, thank you so much for having me, Grace. You know, the number one priority for my campaign is making sure people can afford to live in this country. Costs have gone up, groceries, housing, you name it, and people just can't afford to live for it anymore. So, making sure we have Medicare for all, we're standing up and protecting our democracy and our Constitution, which is under attack, and delivering for people who need it most. A lot of people sympathize with you on the affordability angle, but when it comes to abolishing ICE, is that something you actually want to do? I mean, this is like the most winnable one, and unfortunately I feel like there's going to be a little bit of vote splitting here, and we shall see. But this is like, this is the lock one. It's more so than even Larkin, because this is a, this is a Black Opportunity District. So the very fact that Debbie Wasserman Schultz carpet-bagged into this Black Opportunity District to, you know, skirt into a safe blue victory for herself is disgusting. The very fact that the congressional black caucus has not called it out and has been noticeably absent from the conversation is honestly shameful. Elijah Manley is both black and also Jewish, so you can't even do the anti-Semitism angle here. Like he is so perfect for this district and objectively a million times better than Debbie Wasserman Schultz. I'm actually kind of surprised that more national progressives didn't lean into Elijah manly. I wish they would have done that. Because this one is like totally winnable. I mean this is not only winnable, but it should be like Elijah Manly should win this. But again, it kind of makes sense. No, Bernie didn't endorse him. It kind of makes sense. It's the same with Shreetanadar. It's the same with Sri Thanadar in Detroit. You saw very few congressional black caucus members actually pull, actually push for Donovan McKinney. And the National Democratic Party sees Florida as the straight up lost cause. And the same goes for national progressive uh... leaders as well it sucks but that's just the case they don't want to be held responsible or all over larkin potentially losing uh... and and and then have the democrats the establishment democrats consistently uh... badger us and bully us and and uh... say that like jared mosquitos would have won that district in all of our larkin lost it or some shit there's no guarantee that all over larkin is going to lose the district at all i think it's silly it's an environment that favors democrats and i would suspect that if all over larkin is capable of of defeating jared mosquitos in this district you can actually channel a lot of of of uh... grassroot support and mobilize the base even further and handily defeat uh... the the republican in this district but it's going to be tough can be tough for jared mosquitos is gonna be tough for all over larkin that much is clear like it doesn't matter cool winds jared moscoes wins it's gonna be a tough race for him it's a plus for republican district currently as it stands but uh... the larger one is a different uh... dynamic yeah i mean we live in a world in this country when we didn't have ice and things work pretty fine in this country. We were talking about paperwork violations for the most part. Well, hold on a minute. We didn't live in a world where we didn't have eyes. Yes, we did. It was the INS and you know it because you were alive. Okay. Well, we've had this in the world where we have Tom Hulman National Service. Tom Hulman got an award under the Biden administration as the head of the enforcement and removal operations, removing illegal criminal aliens, particularly under the Obama administration. Years ago, we had Democrats like President Bill Clinton that believed in the rule of law. And so this whole suggestion that ICE is doing something other than doing the enforcement of our immigration laws, which are on the books, laws that were written. Yeah, this is a terrible argument from the Fox News commentator. You can quite literally say INS was busy working on paperwork violations, which is what immigration is at the end of the day. And what ICE is doing now is absolutely criminal behavior with regular frequency. And Europe, it's also additionally funny because Fox would literally say Obama left the borders open. Biden left the borders open. The borders were porous under democratic leadership. But now they're like, oh, they respect the rule of law. So which one is it? There is no rule of law with ICE. That's precisely what we seek to address. We want to make sure that we have a just and an equitable and normal immigration process. by Democrats and Republicans. Wait, would you said do these people on Fox? Fox is just saying out loud how it's pretty. Yeah, and I was doing their jobs. Clint's being hard on immigration is literally why we're in this fucking mess. They're just enforcing those laws. And so I just sort of understand why this left progressive wing of the Democrat Party, which you are a part of, believe in something that undermines the rule of law. Square it for me. I can't understand it. Well, I'm glad we're bringing Greenin's topic up because the fact is we did not have ice. I'm older than ice. We had a world before where we did not have a militarized police agency running through the streets, them artifacts. But we do need some type of immigration reform in this country, common sense immigration reform. And Democrats tried to do that under the Biden administration. Unfortunately, it was the GOP that killed the legislation. It was bipartisan legislation. Republican leaders, listen to Donald Trump to take the legislation. But that's not true either. We saw the President Trump- 1000% Trump. No, no, it's not. I covered the board for four years under the Biden administration. It was wide open. There was no enforcement whatsoever. It got out of control. That's not true. And as a result, we've had people like Lakin, Riley, Jaisalyn, Nungray. We have had consequences that cost people a lot. Here, this is where you actually can cook these guys. You can literally say, do you know the number of, do you know the number of deaths in the hands of an undocumented migrant in the year 2024? They will say no. Do you know the number in 2025? They will say no. It's good for you to know the number so you can turn around and say it's actually 29. If you, your network makes it seem like it's 29,000, it's just two and nine, okay? Those are coming from the Customs and Border Patrol. Those are coming from the Department of Homeland Security. You're wrong. Because they'll be like, no, that's not the case. And you'll say, well, that's coming from your own Trump administration's own Department of Homeland Security. I don't know the updated numbers, but it's somewhere around that. i've seen this playbook they'll say it's twenty nine too many if twenty nine is too many you'd be honest about the number of criminal uh... you know the undocumented migrants uh... engaging in criminal activity instead of lying and saying is twenty nine thousand of course there's always the reality of the matter is we are a nation of law and order that's precisely the reason i want to hold ice accountable for breaking those laws and creating disorder and the very fact that you're still defending this criminal instrument of Donald Trump shows that you do not care about law and order. We do. Okay. No one wants to let undocumented migrants who are criminals get away scot-free. As a matter of fact, if there's one group that's advocating to give them a free ride back home, okay, it's you guys. We want to make sure that people who have done crimes, regardless of their immigration status are prosecuted under the full extent of the law. They get due process. They get processed to the courts and they go to prison if that is a sufficient, if that is the necessary punishment. Meanwhile, this administration is not only doing crimes themselves, but also letting criminals get off scot-free as long as they're paying the Trump administration which is a crime in and of itself. Look at the way that the administration has treated the Epstein class and the Epstein case in general. i mean there's so many different avenues you can go into there's so many different avenues you go into in terms of a tort eyes because illegal in the great immigrants were led into this country and committed those crimes so here's my point my point is if indeed you want to be a part of a movement that comes into congress and tries to remove ice what then are you going to do to protect particularly immigrant communities from illegal criminal are you going to stop them from coming in and will you deport them once they're caught? I think that's an unfair way to frame it, Grace. We are still going to enforce immigration laws, laws that are on the books, but we just don't need people running through the streets, kidnapping people off the streets. Americans have been killed by ICE. Every person they go after is a target. Police officers in danger, our communities in danger. Yeah, I mean, American citizens that they've put in prisons. I mean, random people on the the street that have been shot in the face. No, this is a narrative. This is an unfactual narrative. Elijah, this idea that immigrants in this country are committing, you know, mass amounts of crimes is just baseless and unfounded. That is not true. We just had an operation in the state of Philadelphia, Georgia. Elijah, we got a deal in facts. We got a deal in facts. We just had an operation. Ice around more than 1200 people, among them more than 700 had a criminal history. Ice goes in apprehends migrants who have come here. No, that's not true. Here's another thing that you can do. Here's another thing. Here's free ball. Okay. That's not the job of ICE. That's the job of local law enforcement. And they protect and serve every damn day. You know, maybe they get some things wrong, but I have full confidence that our members are boys in the blue. Members of law enforcement can continue doing their regular duties. Okay? And that's precisely what goes. That's precisely what happens. ICE has no law enforcement apprehension mechanism. Okay. And even his own argument, his own argument that he is showing, once again, betrays the primary point that he's trying to make. If only 700 out of the 12,000 or what is it? 1,200? That's almost half. They have no criminal history. What the fuck are you talking about? I thought we were apprehending criminal migrants. So what ICE did in the state of Georgia, just like it's done every other in every other state, is to boost their numbers, to boost their quotas. They go to the prisons. Okay? And they get criminal migrants that are already in the prison system, and they put them on deportation planes. That's all ICE is doing to justify the apprehensions that they're doing for the non-criminals. That's what this is for the record. The overwhelming majority of ICE apprehensions are non-criminals. The immigrant removal operations don't target criminals. They target non-criminals. They target people with no criminal history whatsoever, and then they go of the prisons and then they grab as many people that are carrying out their sentences that have done crimes. Also by the way, this varies when they say, oh, they apprehended 700 criminals. Here's what they actually mean. Half of them are like aggravated assault or lower level offenses. And they're not like, you know, rapist murderers or whatever. There's also that reality, right? Some of these people are non-citizens that have trespassed. For example, when they're sitting in a fucking prison, ICE goes and grabs them to boost their numbers of criminal migrants that they're actually apprehending. But none of the ICE apprehensions, none of the ERO operations, the immigrant removal operations are actually people who are like real, dying the wool criminals or whatever that they're going in and conducting operations on. They're just going to farms. They're going to places of work. They're going to homes where they know that a non-citizen that is in coordination with ICE, by the way, lives. They work with the IRS to figure out where these guys live, for example. Many of these guys are in direct contact with ICE. That's part of the reason why they also do these deportation operations at courts. Non-citizens that are going to court are following the fucking law they're literally following the law it's totally ridiculous it is completely fucking busted yet they pick up random people in work vans fathers and mothers who are on their way to work they're not they're not conducting some kind of law enforcement operation is just full blown nazi shit illegally and committed crimes and then they're released in sanctuary cities particularly that are at large because those local authorities do not cooperate with ICE to remove them from the country. What's your question? Well, let me ask you this question. If somebody's committing crime, if it's true that people are committing crimes and murders, why would you want to deport them and put them back on the streets? They should be in American jails if they're committing crimes. Hey, that's my line. Let's go. Finally, someone uses it. I've never heard anybody else use this line, by the way. So I will take credit for that. Let's go. Crimes. So they can't hurt anyone else. Just say someone murdered someone in the street. We're going to let them go back home. I don't think that's a good way to do things. Let's let's let's let's murder. Oh, he's flustered. Let's go. Let's walk out. Let's let's walk out. The data is showing that. Let's walk out. Let's walk away. Let's walk away from this because your fucking cook in my ass with that. Yes. Elijah is a house and I'll be head. I will take full credit for that. That is my line. I have taken credit for a common left wing talking point dog. That is not a common left wing talking point. I hope it becomes a more common left wing talking point that I gave that free money to Parker and Dean as well. And they littered at first of all, it's our line, comrade. Okay. But it's not, not a common talking point at all. Holy shit, you got haters. Yeah, I know, but it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Yeah, sure. It's common. It's common. It's not. It's, it's, I, I, you know, you're right. Yeah, I told, I told Dean and Parker to use that line as well, whenever they fucking bring up the, the deportations for criminal shit. Yeah, I I remember when he gave it to Dean and he had never thought of it before. I know, because no one, no one had ever, uh, no one had ever fucking, uh, presented. I love using reactionary framework on leftist issues. Okay. It's one of the things that I do all the time. It is a, like I love using the right wing sensibilities of Americans to have them come to terms with like leftist positions. Here, one of the most common ones, one of the most common ones that people use all the time is like, you know, to reframe the abortion conversation or the reframe the transgender uh, the, the, the, uh, transgender, uh, medical, uh, accessibility conversation back to small government. Like that is a really good way to flip the conversation back, uh, on an American, on an American value of like, you know, medical freedom where you're like, why is the government intervening in these affairs? It should be between a patient and a fucking doctor. You don't know anything. I don't know anything. The medical professional should actually be the one that's like making these decisions. Why do you get to have a say? with abortion as well. That I didn't invent. I would now say that that is my invention. But, but yeah, this is, you know, this is free money. This is free money, free ball for all of you that have to deal with chuds in general. You can use chud style language to defend very woke positions. Yeah, don't tread on me arguments work very well. One of the things that I've been cooking up also is forced education potentially, like talking about reintegration and lowering recidivism by saying like, No, I think we should make sure that these prisons are are are no longer a burden on the taxpayer and Instead focus on making sure that we have a new productive labor force that comes out of those prison systems instead of You know people that go back into a life of crime I Want criminals to be educated in these prisons I want them to to get a a necessary education Maybe don't call it forced education, nah fuck it, call it forced education, who cares? You gotta make it seem like you're punishing these people unfortunately for the average American to come to terms with it. And they definitely think education is a punishment. and he was arrested for burglary and in Sanctuary, California, he was released pending his trial with an ankle bracelet. He violated the ankle bracelet policy and was re arrested and a judge again released him. This is back on August 5th on August 6th the very next day. He was he killed Todd Stewart ice all along had been asking the local ICE all along had been asking the local authorities in California to turn him over so that he could be removed from the country. Therefore, Todd Stewart wouldn't be dead. Do you agree that we should have these local authorities? This is why when they flip it back to anecdotes, it's good to have the broader numbers and maybe even flip it back to an anecdote of an American, like an American citizen committing like a heinous murder or something, and then say like, you don't know the name of this person. The only reason why you're talking about this is because this is one of the instances where law enforcement got it wrong. If you want anecdotes, I have 30,000 anecdotes. You know what I mean? Like, that's the way to do it. You can also flip it back to Alex Pretty. You know, you're talking about one undocumented migrant that actually got away, which is a heinous crime, and it was a tragedy. I care about that. You clearly don't, because I heard you talking about Alex Pretty deserving to be killed by ICE. Right? Well, thank you. huh cooperate with some immigration form in this case it's ice because they're the ones that do it to remove the threat from our communities we're gonna do jubah after the good one it's grif like that it's gonna change the fact that our country no amount of antidotes or single one-off incidents it's going to change the fact that in this country we're experiencing a record low in crime on their both Republicans and Democrats record low in crime this idea that there are immigrants running through the streets killing people is unfounded I know you know we have to scare people when it's an election year to get from the vote for Republicans but we don't want to have fear we want to show people what our agenda of delivering for them is which is making sure we lower costs people are not scared of immigrants in this country people are want to they want to be focused on how do we deliver for them how do we make sure that these gas prices on Donald Trump come down, this economy that he is destroying, they are able to afford to live under it, the rent costs have gone up. What is Donald Trump doing? I got to ask you this, I want to get this in quickly because we appreciate you coming in here and we can hear from you exactly where you stand and what you feel about. But the guy that seems to be driving the socialist wing of the Democrat Party is the streamer Hassan Piker. little bit of what he said bro brother brother he what art oh my god oh my fucking god dude he's like I'm having a tough time I know you want to talk about the president, but how about this fucking Twitch streamer last ditch effort every time, brother. Yeah, this is a great take. Republican media is leaning into the Hassan discourse because A, it's a distraction from this disaster Trump term and B, they know it's a wedge between the under 50 dem base and party leaders in the donor class. So it's going to generate a lot of free media attention. The Sunday chat panel circuit know this, so they keep pressing uncomfortable dem leaders on this wedge. But he was literally streaming at the DNC two years ago, and you're pretending to be outraged by out of context clips from seven years ago. It's also fake and stupid. And then these guys always reheat the same narrative. Actually, Fox News and Rightwarders aren't obsessed with demfactional feuds. They're focusing on Piker because they correctly understand he's broadly toxic like electorally and it helps Republicans to associate Dems with Piker as much as possible. Brother, brother, it is infinitely more toxic to associate Dems with APAC than it is to associate them with a random Twitch streamer, especially in the hands of a clever enough Democratic operative that can turn around and go, this is a terminally online issue. Okay. It's a terminally online issue. But because this is a terminally online internet site that has yielded some of the most insane and toxic forms of discourse, motherfuckers will go, no, you don't understand, it is actually a valid one. You have fallen for the Republican trap card at that point, okay? That's it. The moment that you advance, the moment that you advance this narrative that's clearly coming from the republicans is a moment where you're not talking about the republicans is a moment where you're not talking about costs the moment we're not talking about the affordability problem that donald trump has only made worse that's it and a lot of liberals have had their brains fried from these neo-nazi infested algorithms and legitimately think it is the only issue top of mind some of them are advancing the agendas of their favorite uh... you know loser content creator who despises me some of them legitimately believe that this is the top of my issue um... there's another good take from austerity synthesis apac wasted a lot of money on her and now they're trying to get her uh... their consolation prize which is the platformer person they think is effective at mobilizing younger voters against the pro israel big money corporate wing of the death of the democratic primary in uh... it party in the primaries it's an activist billionaire obsession just look at qualmos closing pigeon the mayor's race which in no right mind was aimed at new york city voters rather at the crowd's anxious uh... rather at the crowd of anxious crowd of big checkbooks underwriting a spoiler campaign is mondani same thing goes for the three-plus months of utterly deranged discourse stirring by to third way the abject failure of that ever the primaries like how it helps sink mcmorrow hasn't forced the rethink just a double down. I said it's fascinating how much the Beltway bubble have deluded themselves into believing that effectively defanging me would change people's opinion on Israel, someone else would take my place. Throwing heaters? Yeah, Abdul overcame being outspent 10 to 1 in a record-breaking primary presidential-level turnout. A DSA member came within 3,000 votes and winning the damn nomination for governor in Wisconsin, despite also being outspent and running against an incumbent governor's endorsement. These are not examples of DSA or Hassan's involvement being brand liabilities, but of having generated a lot of organic interest with younger voters, and a pretty effective firewall against elite Dems messaging, consolidation, and outside spending. That's it. That's it. And a lot of these guys don't want, some of them recognize the issue. Some of them recognize the issue and they're cynically utilizing the Republican attention to, to to tug at liberals' fears to say, oh, it's electability poison. It's electability poison. If it was electability poison, no one would talk about me. If I was electability poison, the Republicans would talk about me. And then the Democrats will say, why the fuck do we care about this? The reason my Republicans talk about me is not because I'm electability poison. The reason my Republicans talk about me is because they know elite Dems are fearful of our movement, okay? And they lean into the fears of elite Dems. They lean into the fears of the moderate wing of the party to create a wedge between the progressive base. That's the only way they can win. In a plus seven anti Trump pro Democrat midterm election season. That's it. And there are a lot of Democrats who unfortunately actually care about protecting their status, protecting their position. And we'll lean into this right wing framing. It's so stupid. He's there in Florida visiting and he actually mentioned you by name. Listen to this. I think the reactionary Republicans have been able to take advantage of our disinterest, our lack of interest, or our lack of hope, a hope for a better future. And that is precisely the reason why they've defeated Democrats over and over again. I think Jared Moskowitz and Democrats like him have played a formative role in this defeat. I could probably say the same thing about Debbie Wasserman Schultz as well, who Elijah Manley is running against. can change that reality. And this is Elijah, this is the guy that also said that America deserved 9-11 as we approached the 25th anniversary. My question to you, last question, do you associate with, will you be campaigning with, do you associate with the Sunpiker? You know, I like this thing that Republicans do where we have to, you know, associate everybody with everyone. Do I associate every Republican with Candice Owens and some of the horrible things Charlie Kirk said. Do I associate people with everything that some of the Nazi people on the right have said? I don't. Yes, the South Tiger has said some things I disagree with, but he has incited the Democratic Party in a way I think is important. We always talk about young men and hearing young men's voices. A lot of people have said things that they regret in the past when they were younger. So you defend the South Tiger. I think America deserves 9-11. Come on. I defend free speech in the United States of America. All right. Elijah Manley, thank you for coming on, giving us an insight to where you stand and we'll continue to follow your race as you run against Debbie Wasserman-Solts, who of course was once in the leadership, now you're part of the pushback. Thank you Elijah. Awesome, thank you guys. All right. More Fox and friends. right way to hold frame piece mo from Elijah you're hated because you challenge people's programming if he likes communism so we should move they repeat it again and again but the way people react like they they're threatened just because you talk about the merits or lack of one system or another is because they're too stupid to break their dumb brain wondering who's certain degree yes all right let's get to instead of my goat Chris Rabbon face the nation let's do Uh, Tim pool, Timothy pool, Timothy Jedidiah pool, one moderate. Do you have a lot of politicians and Democrats versus 20 liberals featuring Tim pool? Now this is amazing. This is fucking amazing because they presented temple as a moderate. How is Tim Poole a moderate? What are we doing? If Tim Poole is a moderate, who's a radical? I just don't know. Like, Tim Poole has spent, Tim Poole has done a lot of election denial. Tim Poole has spent most of his career fomenting civil war or claiming that a civil war is going to happen in America, Tim Pool is highlighted and platformed, neo-Nazis of all different sorts. Like, do you guys notice how on the Democratic Party side they say I'm a fucking radical? But the same like broader media permission structure declares Tim Pool to be a moderate Charlie Kirk to be an activist? Because remember, whenever Charlie Kirk was covered, They always said conservative activist Charlie Kirk. When I'm covered in the media, whether it's a liberal outlet or a right-wing outlet, I'm called a far-left agitator, controversial streamer. How is Charlie Kirk not controversial? His worldview was unbelievably controversial. How is Charlie Kirk not controversial? How is Tim Pool a moderate? Who is deciding that Tim Poole is a moderate? The center is so fucking arbitrary, is so ridiculous, and it's so busted. Anyway, let's find authoritarian practices during COVID. I'm not going to support those individuals. So, but the authoritarian practices today, you're willing to look past? Some of them, yes. Come on, man! The mainstream political left commits more violence than the mainstream political right. What you're saying makes any sense. It sounds like you're honestly grifting a lot. You can say that you're just sibling for every fucking year, and it doesn't happen. I never said there was. It just hasn't happened yet. If you want me to get you a cell box, I can leave you. I can leave you. It's really easy to look at what you do. It's really easy to do. It's really easy to look at what you do. It's easy to look at what you do. Mason got him to get up and leave, which is amazing. United States tracking toward civil war, or is America more united than it seems? Hi, everyone. I'm Harris Rose, and I'll be filling in for John today. From Jubilee Media, this is Surrounded, where one brave soul faces a room full of disagreeers. Today we're debating which political party is more violent, is authoritarianism on the rise in America, and have both parties abandon their oath to the Constitution. I'm here with our future guest, moderate political commentator, Tim Pool. Hi, I'm Tim Pool. I'm the host of Timcast IRL, and today I'm surrounded by progressives. My first surrounded claim is that the mainstream left commits more violence than the mainstream right. If you'd like to be the first debater, get to the chair in three, two, one. Mason said the moderator was also biased as well. I don't know who this moderator is. to meet you buddy. How you doing? There seems to be a broader implication with your prompts that there's this domestic threat from mainstream left politicians. Do you really think Hillary Clinton is leading the Vanguard Revolution Party? What is your take? When you look at the violence that we do see, I describe it as from blunt to acute, which is with the French extreme right you'll see extreme mass shootings you'll see you know someone will show up. Oh I was right. Oh he's doing a semantics argument saying that the mainstream right is separate from the rest of the far right forces that are responsible for an overwhelming amount of violence in this country. That's what it is. Who does is the whole argument that's so funny. Dog, there are left wing forces from moderate to radical. There are right wing forces from moderate to radical. Everybody understands that the overwhelming majority of political violence happens in the hands of the right. Okay? Specifically the far right. His sources aren't wrong. He knows that that's the case, so he's trying to frame it around mainstream, so you get bogged down arguing about what it means to be mainstream instead. This means you've lost the argument before your premise. It's beautiful. He lost this argument before he sat down when he came to the table with the recognition that right wing forces are far more violent in this country than left wing forces. So we had to literally add this semantics thing to say, oh, well, the mainstream left and the mainstream right are different than the far right versus the far left. It's awesome. And it'll unload on people, things like that. On the left though, you'll see riots, vandalism that you don't see from the right. But the point I'm making is that when you break down the ideology that motivates individuals that commit political violence, there is more often an overlap between what the Democratic Party espouses ideologically and what we see in street level violence, as well as maybe assassinations. What is it? What Republicans would espouse? I mean, I couldn't disagree more. ideologies that the Democratic Party is promoting that leads to these types of violence. Anytime you see an act of violence that's typically attributed to the left, it is immediately condemned by every Democrat politician. You can point to one that actually endorses that. Or you have somebody like Donald Trump who's literally the president of the United States saying that we should call for the death of congressional members who are fulfilling their civic duty and saying hey maybe you shouldn't fulfill illegal orders if you're in the military and Donald Trump's asking for them to be put to death. How is that not inciting to violence? No, that is absolutely terrifying. I completely disagree with that. My point more so is that when you see, say, the George Floyd or the BLM rights, you end up with Biden and Kamala themselves promoting fundraisers for those accused of committing these crimes. Which crimes did you point to? So in Minnesota, you had, famously, there was a firefighter who opened a sports bar. It was burned down. In fact, when the local news went to interview him, about his dream bar being burnt It was ransacked. I don't think it was burned around. While they're filming the story, there were people looting a safe and stealing it. Well, I think that there's absolutely a big difference between a lot of the private buildings or private enterprises that were targeted versus public institutions like the police precinct. Like, you're somebody who I've seen the iconography on your show. You're a big patriotic guy. You love 1776, right? That wasn't the most peaceful way that we had criticizing our government or saying that tyranny shouldn't exist here. How long was the Revolutionary War going on before they signed that revolution? i will say that the police precincts that the same people who committed a brutal murder using state violence or to justify that we i think we can understand why people would rightfully be being that political party and control the police department in minneapolis that that that is not the central but first of all we're talking about the mainstream political left which politicians are endorsing that ever said politicians were endorsing than what's the mainstream left so you have activists whose ideology aligns with politicians who are you say that those activists identify with the democratic party the ones that are too many violence. Let me tell you, the leftist that you could talk to, not the biggest fan of the Democratic Party. Is the Democratic Party in favor of Black Lives Matter? I would say yeah. We're the rioters, moderates. I'd say actual moderates, not right-leaning conservatives. We're the rioters. Usually those people also agree that police violence is something that should be asserted. Were the riots Black Lives Matter motivated? They were motivated. By Black Lives Matter. So that ideology is espoused by... No, the Black Lives Matter is not encouraging violence. Black Lives Matter is recognizing systemic inequality. Never said they were telling people to go be violent. I'm saying that they are violent individuals and with the riots a lot of them which you see. Can you tell me who Chris Ray is? Do you know who Chris Ray is? Explain to me. Well you have a show talking about politics every day. I would think that you know. But Chris Ray was the former. Let's not do this. If you have a point to make, let's make a point. Yes sir. So Chris Ray was the former FBI director under Donald Trump's first term. He said that he even agreed with the findings from both the congressional research session that That right wing violence is way more proliferate in this country than left wing violence. That's not, that's not maybe a possible voter. Let me explain. The Republican party rejects neo-Nazism, correct? No, Donald Trump invited Nick Quintas to have dinner with him, with Kanye West. So tell me one politician who went out and campaigned for the neo-Nazi vote. Oh, I'm blanking on his name, but Gozar and... He's had a mandate. Paul Gozar. And there are plenty more. Marjorie Taylor Greene, James Fishback, Paul Gozar. Elon Musk. The problem here is, like many of them, many of these guys actually are nowhere near, nowhere near as hostile to Nick Fuentes' odious worldview as they claim they are. Okay. Arizona view in this country. Well, we could talk about goes are we could talk about Matt Gaetz? We could talk about it's not a source in neo-nazism and Donald Trump are you kidding me? No, he's literally partying with the America first movement. He was a American person neo-nazism are totally different for all. So you don't think you know, do you think Nick Fuentes is a neo-nazi? I forgot you had him on your show. I went out. I literally forget I wouldn't describe Nick Fuentes as a neo-nazi. Nazi. You don't think that Nick Fuentes celebrating Adolf Hitler is not neo-Nazi adjacent? I think you have to be very specific on what your terms are and so when you go to American voter and say something like... This is our moderate by the way everybody. This is our moderate. Indeed. Keep going. So when you go to a regular American and ask them what is meaningful to them in terms of an election you don't have Democrats or Republicans endorsing violence but you also don't have... Charlie Kirk's a good example. He threw out Nick Fuentes, Because he threw out white identitarians, white nationalists from his events. They were not welcome. That's mainstream. You don't have riots coming from the Republican Party on the right, although you do have January 6th and things like that. When you take a look at the, say, the shootings of the Tesla facilities, the execution of Aaron Danielson, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and one of the attempted assassinations on Donald Trump, not the Pennsylvania one. Here's the thing. Every single left movement he talks about is opposing state violence. This is the faulty standard that we on the left have to always live in. Republicans can get away with demanding more of the pre-existing state violence, whereas everything that we say in opposition to state violence can be considered totally violent. Black Lives Matter is a response to state violence. But because in the eyes of the broader electorate, in the eyes of like the broader American public, they see police violence as a necessary form of violence, they are, it's much easier for them to turn around. It's much easier for them to turn around and look at the people responding to that police violence as the truly violent ones. You can see the underlying ideologies overlap with the Democratic Party. When you take a look at like Nick Fuentes, he's opposed to the Republican Party. He's been actively endorsing Democrats right now. He's been saying that the Republican Party is too left for him. It's not that he's opposed to the Republican Party in principle. That's my point! This is literally my point. Nick Fuentes comes out and says, do not vote for Trump. the mainstream republican point is that it odds with these people. No. Again, if you're looking at all of the empirical data, the violence is way more on the right. So you can say what your feelings are. You can say that... That's not a feeling nor the claim. It is not meaningful to a voter to say, we don't like neo-nazis and white supremacists. Because the Republican Party is not saying they want the right to work with them. It's meaningful to say, let's be objective of where the violence is coming from, and if it's more substantially coming from the right, that is a problem that needs to be tackled. But it's not coming from Charlie Kirk. Okay, who's not talking about Charlie Kirk? We're talking about the overall ideologies. In fact, we're not. So you're telling me that the prioritization of hierarchies, both ethnic, both cultural, that is not a dangerous ideology. But something like BLM that says, hey, maybe we should take back police violence. Maybe you should have accountability for people who are in charge of certain aspects of our nation. Committing violence on citizens, those are absolutely completely different ideologies. And the fact that you're saying it is more motivating for violence, that the left wing is encouraging people to take those that are committing violence accountable. in the last ten years there have been over four hundred and sixty five incidents of left motivated political violence that aligns the democratic party and there's been one on the republican side which is january six which admittedly this is a very valuable technique is called making it up It's awesome. It's called making shit up. It's undefeated, especially for the silly woke and dare I say gay truth enjoyers. If you are a silly consensus reality enjoyer, well, this is one unlimited. This is a this is a technique. I like to say lying is OP. It's a technique that is very overpowered it must be nerfed. It's particularly egregious. January 6th was that that's what we talk about blood. Why are you mad? Is U2 bang bang? Why are you mad bro? I'm not. I think you're just incapable of understanding emotion versus acute. Now the problem is I already know whatever all you're gonna say you're gonna say FBI stats in Cato but it's not meaningful to me or any voter to tell me why white supremacists are violent because I don't like white supremacists nor will I vote for them and More importantly, you bring up Nick Fuentes. He is not aligned with Republicans and he's advocated against them. I just I think I think for So I don't like I think for somebody who has a political show where you talk about this stuff every day You were completely misreading the conversation when you're saying that those that are engaged in like civil disobedience or like Voters you're telling me that those people are saying can be seen for democratic Absolutely in favor of can the sing I'm in favor of a protest. I'm not saying that you're I'm not saying that you're against that I'm saying don't try and frame my argument like I'm upset with protest because I defended I've defended black lives matter blocking streets I've defended left-aligned progressive groups like anti-capitalist groups blocking streets and environmental groups I stand with civil disobedience and I've defended them every single time if you want to block a road There's a time you're saying is more violent on the left. You mentioned black lives matter You mentioned these talk about the Tesla facilities being unloaded upon or shot up, right? But these are motivated by an ideology that you will hear from Elizabeth Warren. Now, of course, she's not telling people to shoot anybody, but she is coming out saying Elon Musk is a dangerous threat to this country. And then you end up with someone going and pulling a rifle up and shooting up a Tesla. When you understand that the right always says politicians are not responsible for individual actions, Elizabeth Warren saying, hey, maybe we should have the same sort of economic policies they have in Scandinavia, that's not her encouraging, go shoot up a Tesla facility. Why was that? saying let's hang the people let's hang the people who encouraged those in the military to actually fulfill their duties that is completely my claim is not that the right is the leader of the Republican Party and I hate that it's a it's a semantics argument and I think the best thing to do would be to tackle the form in this sorghum stance which is to say look I think you and I both understand that the Department of Justice has already released a comprehensive report that shows that the overwhelming majority of domestic terror incidents come from the far right. And that's precisely the reason why you're trying to get bogged down with this like semantics argument about the mainstream left being more violent than the mainstream right. There's no such thing as like the mainstream left versus the mainstream right. It's just left versus right. And if you look at it, the numbers are still not favoring your position. You can say you disavow the violence all day every day, but there's got to be a reason why so many far-right individuals are committing these sorts of crimes with regular frequency as opposed to far-left individuals. That's it. But that's it. Because at the end of the day, you're basically saying Donald Trump is a less violent force in American politics than like Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. And that's a psychotic position to have. So you have to constantly turn around and say, do you think Donald Trump engages in less violent sentiment than Elizabeth Warren. Do you think Donald Trump engages in less violent sentiment than Hillary Clinton, right? Because then it's like, then you just come across like a fucking psycho, right? Can you imagine someone being like, no, actually you're right. The guy who says lock him up, the guy who constantly talks about violently taking care of their political opposition. That guy is actually the real peaceful dove here. And the guy who will disavow every instance of violence across the board is actually the violent one. You look crazy. You will look crazy to people. The other side of the conversation that is frustrating, of course, as always, is that right-wingers get to traffic in violent sentiment by leaning into preexisting modes of state violence. So Donald Trump doesn't have to say, we want a white America, even though he sometimes heavily implies it. But he doesn't have to say, we want a white America, we want to put immigrants in concentration camps. He just can say, we want ICE, we want a stronger border. But that's the same exact argument. Because the underlying white nativism is exactly the same. That somewhere in there, there is a hidden premise that brown people are not as valuable as white people are. And that's why these third world brown folk need to go back to where they came from. And in most circumstances, they're not even saying they need to go back to where they came from. They're just simply talking about sending them to a slave labor colony in El Salvador. That's usually how these arguments work. Hassan is a liberal now. Wait, what? Why? Hillary loves killing people, but not in our country. Live Alert. No, I'm talking about like domestic violence and and who is responsible for domestic violence. Of course Foreign policy is uniparty. Don't be crazy That's not what we're talking about right now though, we're talking about the nation left commits more violence in the nation right They're talking about domestically So, to say that these are equivocable at all is completely false. I came down 100% what Donald Trump said for the death of those politicians. We have to move on. Great to meet you, sir. Likewise. If you'd like to be the next debater, get to the chair in three, two, one. Hello. Hi. Is she conservative? Mason the host I don't know why she's giving conservative aura a little bit. Am I crazy? What I find really interesting is the whole premise of like the Occupy Wall Street movement was to protest right? It was specifically geared towards making sure that the general public public was understanding the situation at the time, which had a lot to do with it. No, you're crazy. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I just, my mistake, if I'm wrong, you know, I apologize. Anti-capitalist motives, right? And so when we're talking about who's more violent than- They just changed the title. What did they change it to? No, it's still one moderate versus 20 liberals. What I find really interesting was, what do they change it to on your end? It's probably A-B testing. Typically geared towards making sure that the general public was understanding the situation at the. Oh, one moderate versus 20 liberals instead of one moderate versus 20 progressive. which had a lot to do with anti-capitalist motives, right? And so when we're talking about who's more violent than who, we have to be very specific that the violence that is recorded in the data is not ideological violence. It's not this like rhetoric. It has to be evidentiary. So if you're going to say like, oh, Black Lives Matter and any leftists that are associated with that are automatically violent, that's just not the case. I didn't say that. But that's what you're implying. No, no, I'm implying that when you have riots in this country overwhelmingly the underlying ideology aligns with the mainstream left ideology of this country. But what you're seeing in your prompt that you wrote is that the left is more violent than the right. The mainstream political left commits more violence in the mainstream political right. Right, the mainstream. And what I'm trying to tell you is that the data is not showing that that is the actual evidence. If you talk, no, it doesn't. It does. We might see this put together over 10 years. 75 to 80 percent. I like that the data point behind his position is just one that he made up. I think that's cool. You know that's kind of cool. I mean, what do you do? What do you do in that situation? Yeah, proprietary made it up index. What do you do in that situation? Like, well, I'm sorry. Of violence, actual violence that is being tracked as domestic terrorism comes from the right. I love how the left is separating itself from each other with libs, progressives, dsas, etc. We just need to stick together, fucking like what the fuck says honey and knife. What does that have to do with anything? It's white supremacist groups and white supremacists are not uh, in a large political party getting voted for. Yes, they are. Yeah, okay. This is such a funny fact check. The 75 to 80 figure broadly supported for fatalities from us domestic terraces 2001 not for all instances or violence tracked as domestic terrorism research reviews find right when your shrimp is responsible for roughly 75 to 80% of domestic terrorism deaths. Okay? They're also responsible for a far larger number of incidents as well, so it doesn't even matter. That's, I like that Tim Poole's fact check was, he just made this number up, and then her fact check is, yeah, she's right, she just instead should have said fatalities and not incidents. I mean, it is a fact check. It's valid. It's a valid fact check. I'm just trying to show you the disparity of like a person who is who's who's saying incidents instead of fatalities. One could argue the fatalities is worse, but it doesn't matter. And the other one, they straight up said, we have no idea where Tim pool pulled this data from. He must have made it up. That is the world that we live in now, where the quote unquote moderate, which I think is ridiculous that they're calling the moderate, quote unquote, right winger moderate is making shit up. And then the liberals or the progressives are, you know, broadly trafficking in truth. Party is a very largely right wing. It is very far right. If they're not white supremacists, nor would nor the Americans voting for a Republican party because What do you think make America great again means? I think it means making the economy improve. I think it means building our cultural institutions. According to what time? According to what time? I'll give you that. Probably the 80s, because Trump's an old man. I would say the 90s. I would seriously doubt he meant the 80s. He's much older than the 80s. Your interpretation of Donald Trump's opinions is separate from when we see a riot, what is motivating the riot. His opinions lead his policies. Don't they indeed and nobody Playing that Donald Trump is innocent nor does he not have individuals who His type of ideology that leads his policy is not nearly as violent as the left Which is largely anti fascist none of what you're saying makes any sense it sounds like you're honestly grifting a lot How many how many Republican riots have there been? Um, I don't know the exact one. Yeah. The argument of like Republicans don't riot. The left does is again, very stupid. Well, first of all, it's not even correct. January 6th is a great example. Charlottesville is another great example. Proud boys are another great example. So there's numbers of examples of the right wing, uh, doing riots and things of that nature. Of course, Tim Poole will say those aren't mainstream, right? Which fucking ridiculous. But the other reason why this sucks, this argument is like so stupid, is because the right already give the responsibility of enforcement and violence to the state. Even when a Democrat is in charge, it's still the type of violence that the right wingers want more of that's happening in the country, because that's what police brutality is. Here, I'll give you a fucking example. Right-wingers love when the state brutalizes college protestors. Under the Biden administration, the Gaza protest took place. 3,654 American students on college campuses were arrested and apprehended by the state, which was controlled by a liberal Democrat. So even when the broad left, which Tim calls the mainstream left, is protesting, and some of those protests, quote-unquote, turn into riots, okay? That's still the type of state violence that right-wingers love. It's just a Democrat doing it, and the same goes for ICE. It is ice, if not the exact same manifestation of right wing violent appetite, right wing violent desires. That's the whole point. That's the driving animus behind ice to make Republicans feel comfortable, to make Republicans feel like the state is doing something about these pesky migrants. It doesn't always have to be them taking up arms and going and shooting migrants, which they do. They do it all the time. So that's, you know, why the number is also slanted in the direction of the far right or the right in general. But when they're not doing that, the state is doing it for them. He's glazing Kim Jong-un, my goat, JD Pondong. Number? But what are you classifying as a rat? What? Dude, I really, God, one of the worst parts about like TikTok and the way people operate now is there's so many fucking stupid people. Like, I saw that one, there's a TikTok comment where they were like, James Fishback is a great candidate. Or like, anytime there's someone that says something about me, there's like 700 comments underneath it being like, nah, this guy fucking sucks. He's actually always talking about politics and he seems so angry all the time and it's like that's not political commentary. That's not criticism against a thing that you disagree with that I believe. You're like an animal. You're just responding to stimuli. That makes me so sad. You know? It makes me so sad. And it's, it sucks. There is a real, there's a real shuttification of America that's taking place right now. A lot of our youth, a lot of our youth are like this. Okay, it sucks. But so many of our youth have become complete fucking moronic chuds. A big part of the reason why is because they are apolitical perhaps best explained by clavicular's famous line politics is jester it's jester behavior there are a lot of people who are like I'm apolitical and then they don't realize that they are constantly repeating right-wing chud talking points all the time it fucking sucks because if you're protesting with rioting that's a very different thing. No we're talking specifically about people ransacking Tesla facilities, vehicles, charging stations. You're so obsessed with the Tesla thing. Why don't we actually talk about... I think it might be because someone's with a rifle and started shooting us a building. It's like investing in your company or something but let's like remove the Tesla out of it. That has nothing to do with what your actual prompt is saying. No that's actually what my claim is. No it sounds a lot like... Well, then you're arguing something else. No, you're arguing something else, because if that's what you went from somebody who was doing really important work in Occupy Wall Street to then grifting all the way to defending far-right people, that's crazy. What was the important work? I love the argument, by the way. He's just like January 6th is whatever, who cares. All of the instances of like domestic terror, like the mosque shooting that just took place a couple months ago, who cares. were vandalizing Teslas. Somewhere out there, the dumbest guy you know, your dumbest co-worker heard that take and was like, that makes so much fucking sense, dude. That makes so much fucking sense, dude. Yeah, millions of people actually watch this stuff. You cannot underestimate I mean, how popular our populace is, what is this? Do I think Israel fucking killed Charlie Kirk? I absolutely do. I think they, I think Israel killed Charlie Kirk to see what would happen when they killed Trump. Do you think Trump's ear shooting was staged? Totally. But I'm saying Vance is the ultimate palantir Israel first candidate. He is like, he's the clavicular of politics. Do you think he's behind a lot of this? I think that all the powers would be the actual people behind the curtain, which is the tech oligarchs that are connected to Israel, the corporate establishment are priming Vance to be the ultimate AI Israel candidate. They think Trump's sort of like a dumb old mobster uncle with like gold toilets who just like dances around. And they liked him when he had a lot of energy. But I think, you know, before Charlie Kirk died, he was an extremely polarizing figure. You had people like McFwente and other people on the further, I guess, anti-Zionist right, being like, fuck Charlie Kirk, all groipers go to his events, disrupt everything, like he's a bitch. Nobody fucked with him, right? And then they killed him and everyone's in tears. All of his haters, Sam Hyde is crying. nick flentes is crying you got people who are shitting on this guy for fucking money every day crying their heart out of the left is gone too far look at what the left has done it's time to get revenge the ultimate almost powder keg of civil conflict happened after charlie curg was killed and beforehand he was polarizing so what they're doing okay here's the problem with the exception of what they're talking about about like israel killing charlie curg for sure the rest of the analysis is actually pretty fine Now I really believe this is they're getting people polarized on Trump. They're getting everyone like Tucker Carlson, following in lock, lockstep to be like, Trump sucks now. Nothing that he promised came true. He was supposed to have no wars and they're going to kill Trump when they know he's going to die within about a year. Okay, nevermind. That's okay. We're back. Okay. He sandwiched it. He sandwiched it. I should have just finished the clip. sandwiched it. The meat and potatoes in between were valid, like J. D. Vance is a Palantir, Blood Boy, like all that stuff is correct. There's definitely different factions within the modern Republican party right now that are obviously vying for power. They're fighting for influence. And J. D. Vance is obviously the Torchbearer of the Palantir, right and they're gonna have a leftist kill them a trans leftist maybe a black leftist they're definitely going to be trans black we're not sure the ultimate bogeyman is going to become the symbol of the left the left or the liberal establishment might try to like turn them into like a folk hero and they're going to be elevated and it's going to be there's going to be a whole thing and then vance is going to come into power have the ultimate crackdown on anybody that's against the system AI data centers are going to be deployed in their full capacity for surveillance Not a lot is Erica Kirk joining him at the helm Erica Kirk might be the first lady Yeah, I mean they're just fucking going crazy. They're just making shit up What important work you said I was in terms of Occupy Wall Street I think you know in terms of that movement I thought it was one of the first times in our generation that we were able to see an actual organization against capitalism. Can I ask you how old you are? No, you cannot ask me how old I am. Were you politically active during Occupy Wall Street? Yes, I was. Did you follow the news about me during Occupy Wall Street? Not specifically. Why would anybody follow you, dog? I know you were there, but I mean, Jesus Christ. Wow, that is fucking ridiculous. This is a ridiculous statement to make. Oh, did you follow me? The news was that Occupy denounced the violence. I had filmed, leftist, deflating police tires who physically attacked me. And I was attacked by a masked individual smacking my camera out of his hand. Occupy, Wall Street. So this is a personal vendetta for you? Then gave me a single or a small- If you're getting emotional about this and you don't want to have an argument, that's fine. Do I look emotional guys? You do, because you don't know what happened to Occupy and your argument is off because you don't. This honestly sounds like you have a personal vendetta from your history. Absolutely nothing with what your actor is prompted. Which is about far-right people being much more violent on the left. We have to pause. Love the passion, but pause. Alright. If you'd like to be the next debater, please get to the chair and three, two, one. You got it. Nice to meet you. How's it going? Good. I think we should just get to the heart of it. Donald Trump is a fascist. He has Nazis in his administration. His entire messaging was resonating with Nazis from the very beginning. Donald Trump, when rallying for 2024 had a massive rally in Madison Square Garden, what was the significance of that rally? You show me. Yeah, it's the same place, same date as the Nazis in the 1940s. Literally. literally donald trump said that uh... immigrants are poisoning the blood of america and their environment who also said that you tell me literally that donald trump has openly said things as dog whistles so you may say that it's not mainstream but the entire ideology of the right when it looks to those people let me ask you what what do you mean by fascist Oh god. Okay. All right, let's uh, far right authoritarian, ultra nationalistic, 14 tens of fascism. But there's a specific definition of fascist. Do you just mean that he's an authoritarian? No, I mean that he meets all 14 cents of fascism, fascism. Which is what you want to go through all 14 points? I don't, I'm trying to understand your argument, but so, so my point largely is we see people say Trump is a fascist, but there's, you know, if you go to if you go to an academic and you look at fascism say Italy there's a common argument that you have the merger of corporate corporation and states as the defining element of what fascism is I would I was a different what no no right no no yes Palin genetic ultra nationalism is correct and if you want to go down into it if you want to actually pick it apart it's basically an in group out good dynamic that you said with a national mythos surrounding it, where the superior in-group race or religion or ethnic background is elevated to a higher state and is constantly in battle and trying to seek out the expulsion of the outer group, the lesser races, the lesser ethnicities, the lesser nationalities. That's all it is. And absolutely Donald Trump fits this stereotype, this ideological predisposition. And yes, palogenetic ultranationalism is even the liberal definition. I know, it is. It is. It's not the worst one though. I think palogenetic ultranationalism isn't the worst definition. That's why I like that one as opposed to all the other ones. Because all the other ones literally could be any government that's doing government things. Like the one where it's like, oh, er, er, eradicating or like state control over mixed markets or whatever and authoritarianism, like that doesn't mean anything. You can just say that for any country on the planet. Also, the current administration is the merger of state and corporate power. So even, no, I hate that one. Yeah, it's a, I hate the unholy merger shit. I hate that one because that's literally, first of all, that's partially, that is an anti-communist way to talk about fascism. That's a liberal way to talk about fascism, specifically so that you oppose communism and not only that, but also oppose any degree of socialization, right? Because you can literally make that argument like Norway's a fascist country. Okay, Norway's a fascist country. Why? Because they've nationalized their extraction industry. I hate that. And it's not a, it is a not so subtle way that liberals try to authorize socialism, communism, and then put them under the fascism bracket. But yes, technically, because of the Trump administration's actions against Intel, for example, you could literally say that, even under Tim's definition, you could say that Donald Trump is still a fascist, but again, it doesn't matter because that has nothing to do with fascism. Well, and that's the one that's why I asked. The actual premise is the authoritarian, Donald Trump is absolutely a fascist, he's, like I said, he has a Nazi's in this administration. I think we're shifting, Pete has it, I would, how is he actually, he literally has a proud Nazi tattoo on his chest. He has a Jerusalem cross, which is a very common Nazi dog whistle. The idea that it's not a fucking non-statue is silly. What's next? Are you going to say Graham Platner only had a skull on his chest? Get the fuck out of here. He had such, dude, you want to know something funny? And I brought this up in the past about Graham Platner, but like Pete Hexeth is Graham Platner. Okay. Pete Hexeth is literally Graham Platner to give you a, to give you another testament to give you a another testament to how busted this system is. The fucking Secretary of Defense, now Secretary of War, is the same as Grand Plattner and Grand Plattner won the primary, and we immediately were like, you gotta get the fuck out of here, big dog. Meanwhile, Republicans go, oh, drunk rapists with Nazi tattoos? right up. This also once again is what fucking makes me so angry about media and and mainstream media and where they shift their focus and their priorities on. I just I despise it. Like how much how much coverage was around Grand Platinum which for the record I'm not even saying is invalid versus how much coverage still currently exists for beat Hexeth being the exact same guy being the exact same guy who's the fucking secretary of war oh my god this is what I'm talking about with fucking liberals man liberals you don't know how to you do not know how to focus up. You are always at the mercy of reactionaries, and they play you like a fiddle. Okay. Well, you are wrong. It's on there. Not the same. Stephen Miller is absolutely a Nazi. Stephen Miller has not had a Nazi tattoo in his chest. That's yeah. No, he does not have a Catholic cross on his chest. I mean, guys, look, I went to cat school when I was little. I left, I left in a fifth grade. So yeah, by the way, he's a dropout. He didn't even go to high school. Not a Nazi. Yeah, that's that. Okay, cool. Question for you. When Donald Trump and his administration specifically actually implement policies that go at the heart of what Nazis want, right, targeting is what the first group of people they target was the transgender community, saying things in Nazi, the actual Nazis specifically targeted people that weren't like them. There's been a persistent and consistent attack on undocumented immigrants, black people, women, anyone that's not a straight white male in America. My principle claim is not that Donald Trump is innocent nor perfect nor good. My claim is that when you look at street level violence, domestic terror, etc., you'll find more violence coming from the mainstream left as opposed to the mainstream right. I do think it's fair to point out white supremacists are violent, they do evil and horrible things. Yeah, we all condemned the white supremacists are a part of the mainstream, right? Oh, they're not there. They're literally are there's no If you like to be the next debate, please get to the chair in three two one That's an easy grab you're right So the first thing I'll say is I think it's a bit disingenuous to characterize any of the all of the property damage committed during BLM as left-wing violence because there are going to be rogue opportunists. A great opportunist during the biggest civil rights protests in American history. That's first and foremost. The second thing I would like to say is I don't think it makes sense to confine political violence strictly in the context of individuals acting with political motive violently. I think it ignores institutional violence. Theoretically, you could say the 1960s civil rights movement was more violent than the counter protesters. But obviously the institutional violence of segregation. I completely agree. Right. So what I would say is that- Wait, so then you agree with the institutional violence of police brutality, specifically this portion of targeting of black communities is far worse than the actual negative consequences of said institutional violence violence that unfolded in mostly largely peaceful protests, some of which actually escalated in the hands of the police into riots. The Republican Party is, um, and the mainstream political riot is far more counter protests were definitely more violent as well. During that period, the KKK killed hundreds of people and so did the police. But then you also had a, I mean, this goes back to the Hamas versus Israel equation as well. The standard of of violence is always in the hands of the powerful entity, right? The colonial occupant or in this case, the American state. So if the American state is more violent, then it's retaliation. The retaliatory forces are going to be just as violent in retaliation to the state violence. So the police were far more violent. The Klan was far more violent. That's why the Black Panthers would also sometimes or other, uh, you know, revolutionary activists will sometimes literally fucking get into shootouts. For violent because they support once again it's never as violent for the record. It's never as violent as the state because the state maintains a monopoly on violence and therefore the retaliatory forces can only try to match the standard of violence but never actually match the standard of violence. Ice ripping and separating families from one another even from people who you have no criminal background you know I guess I guess I have skyrocketed even as a matter of a war abroad etc but domestic I'd love to talk the worst off I'm a sure big foreign policy guy but domestically no he's not dude ask him about Russia yeah he's a big foreign policy guy Ukraine is the enemy of mankind. Oh, it's my favorite clip of all time, dude. They know it. But I don't know that it matters anymore. This is psychotic. Ukraine is the enemy of this country. Ukraine is the enemy of this country. Ukraine is our enemy being funded by the Democrats. I will stress again one of the greatest enemies of our nation right one of the greatest enemies of our nation. Oh, the very fact that he still has like any viability in the conservative movement spells trouble for like our literacy rates spells trouble for where we are in political discourse in general. Also, the other side of the story is, of course, the fact that so many Democrats unironically think that I do this, but for Russia and for Cuba and for China, it's incredible. Like this guy literally got popped by the FBI, got caught by the FBI. Our Department of justice bound. This motherfucker getting hundreds of thousands of millions of dollars in the Russian government to do pro-Russia anti-Ukraine propaganda and he still gets called a moderate on Jubilee. Was it only a hundred K? Now is Ukraine. They are expanding this war. Now don't get me wrong I know. You've got criminal elements of the US government pushing them and guiding them and telling them what to do. Ukraine is now accused, a German war issued for $100 grand per week. Oh God, he made so much money. Barack Obama's administration. It did, but not to the same extent. Agreed. And a $100k in episode? Barack Obama was criticized for it by who? A political left. Agreed. Right. So my point is not to say again that there's no violence on the right and I think the institutional argument is actually a good one. However, my view largely is when you You look at Occupy Wall Street for which I was there and I watched police instigate fights. Or when I was on the ground during the protests on West Floreson Avenue, I saw police throw a flashbang grenade at protesters. How the fuck was that not considered treason? Like, that is pretty crazy. Like, can you about, dude, I would literally be thrown, if I did what Tim Pool did, but for China, okay, in the way that like some of these liberals claim I do, I would be under the, Democrats would throw me in prison. It wouldn't even be Republicans. They would kill me. They would good doffy my ass. Like, it kind of, it's kind of crazy. It is kind of wild that he can just operate as a state asset for the foreign adversary, Russian state. God, Republicans get to do whatever they want in this country, man. How does that not piss off everyone all the time? How does that not frustrate people all the damn time, dude? It blows my fucking mind. The hypocrisy is endless. who are not doing anything violent. The issues these police are under Democrat administration still where their their chiefs are often appointed by Democrat politicians. So again, I understand that. Yeah, this is what I was thinking when I said political TikTok is so much worse than Twitter. Take that policy might be a genuine mental illness. This is why we need James Fishback for president or Dean withers. And is James Fishback doing the Nick Fuentes thing? Oh, God, Tiktok politics, man. That to me is also a little disingenuous because it's not as though the police as matter of its institution. Dean wouldn't be the worst president dog. He's like 23. Like, and also, again, the point is that these people only see what they see in front of them and have no real imagination, no, no understanding the political realities that are unfolding. That's the problem. That's the, that's the argument. It is a left-wing institution. No, it's not in fact usually the police are protecting and on the other side of the argument that I said, I'm going to make the argument of police under the Democrats. Sir, well, I don't know. They bury you under the jail. Felix said IRGC should have an act blue on the latest chop. Oh, I know that was really funny. I mean, he's technically he's not wrong when he says the IRGC is the is the strongest like a defender of liberalism and the strongest defender of the strongest like a poser the strongest opponent of Trumpism is the IRGC currently it's the only game in town really and I guess maybe to a certain degree so is the the CPC although they just kind of let Trump do whatever the fuck he wants for the most part Well, the which is the law enforcement defer to their politicians or not it depends with because ice is an executive agency They do they do and the police department in Minneapolis is under the Democrats. Yes, right But we all agree that there's a problem, but they're criticized and often on the other end of left-wing protesters So for instance the protests against ice here in Los Angeles. It's usually against left-wing So what is it left on left violence of that way? You think you think police protesting against or committing violence against left-wing protesters that's left-on-left violence really? Yes, I think that's I think that's right Well, I guess I guess Yes. What can I say? I mean, Tim Pool is now utilizing a second technique, also undefeated, also very valuable. It first was lying as OP. The second one is just be a dumbass. Okay. Just being an overall dumbass. Because if you keep them guessing and they can never against your next move. They can't really have a normal conversation with you because you can just say insane things like that. And you're just like, what the fuck? What? Yes. Historically, police brutality is left violence. So police brutality against Black Lives Matter protesters is left on left violence. Take a listen. I'm sorry. The police who live in these cities tend to, they tend to be more moderate, but they're not literally not true. Literally not true. 86 Shankov voted for Donald Trump over Hillary Rodham Clinton. There's never been a moment where police, as an institution, has not overwhelmingly voted for the Republicans. That is the most insane thing he's ever said. I don't really care about the partisan dynamic here in any way, shape, or form, even if they were fucking liberals and Democrats or whatever. They would still be cops at the end of the day. But the idea, the idea that cops in fucking blue cities who famously don't live in the cities anyway. Does Temple know anything? Does this man know anything throughout the history? There's only been one leftist cop and he was in the DSA, the DSA cop. And that's it. And he got kicked out. Okay. First of all, cops famously don't live in the jurisdictions that they work in, okay? That's, you know, famously that is a big problem. As a matter of fact, it's kind of like one of the points for community policing is like, oh, hire from the actual community. I guess the only time where police violence has turned into like a leftist violence that you can, you can point to is is chris doner that's it no doner was not the dsa cop are conservatives is the end of the two days before the institution as an institution in the institution in new york well i would have defined a left wing institution exactly what i would say exactly democrat politicians are the ones appointing these police chiefs in these administrations were not his policies but are they when you're voting for someone into office this is not conservatives doing it's not mainstream right-wingers, putting in police that beat protesters. But who politically supports the police as a matter of their rhetoric and ideology? They're right or the left? Okay, so they do it. They're right in these places, nor do they appoint these people. Sure, but- Don't tell me that ICE under Donald Trump, but not police under Democratic politicians. Hold on. Hold on. The left- No, ICE, even under liberal administrations, is still a manifestation of right-wing forms of violence. But it's state violence anyway, we're not talking about, when we talk about violence, are we talking about my understanding of violence, which also is state violence? We can even talk about it as the structural forms of violence. Or are we talking about what people consider to be violence, which is non-state actors? If we're talking about non-state actors, you're wrong, mainstream left commits more violence than mainstream right, it's just bullshit, completely fucking bullshit, okay? If we're talking about state violence, however, state violence, the manifestation of right-wing forces, unless you think like, I don't know, any kind of enforcement action against like anti-vaxxers is considered left-wing violence. Maybe that, like, like, I don't know. He's understanding of violence is all over the place. It's very strange. Like, Tim Poole's doing peep the badge. It says, people's police. We're under, under Lib Tartan administrations, the cops point to their badge and go, see, it says, people's police, actually, peep the badge. It doesn't appoint, also doesn't appoint. I'm brutalizing you, but left this league. Make protestors who commit random acts of violence against property, that's not my argument. earlier you were making the case that it's the ideology that motivates what these writers are doing and that's the reason why the left is ultimately responsible. The underlying ideology is overlapping with the democratic party. Sure, and so what I'm saying is that if you want to be consistent, the underlying ideology that supports the police and as a matter of institution and when the police are cracking down on left-wing protesters, that's overwhelmingly on the side of conservatives. Except they're not in power in these places and you're applying a locality to the nation. It doesn't make sense. They may not be technically in the police. I mean, police are not motivated by the Republican Party to go out under a Democratic mayor to arrest protesters. The problem is that the police is still, as a matter of institution, is a more of a right-wing institution than the left. Certainly, even if they're Democratic. And they're usually on the other side of the police. A police officer who goes out in New York and arrests a protester does not the past of a democratic politician I don't I don't know. It's true. You've been voted out by the majority. Please All right, if you'd like to be the next debate, please get to the chair and three two one Stop young man listen. Oh, yeah Haven't been young for a minute. Yeah slow down with that. All right. It's a really quick though I condemn, I condemn, I condemn is really cheap cop out. It's not going to work because the people around us are not low IQ, like your average viewer. It's important to recognize. Make an argument. So I'm about to. You don't have one? Is that it? If you want to be insults, we can go for insults. I'm about to. We can rap. I'm about to. You want to rap? So it's important to recognize that a simply I condemn is not sufficient when the Republican party has created a permission structure for individuals to go on and do violence against, I'm not to tell you, with impunity. Immigration and customs enforcement is a good example. The Trump administration, they violated, you know they lost in the courts 10,000 times, right? That's not true. It is true. 10 dollars and a half. Yeah, they lost 10,000 times last year. I'm sure it would be like 10,000 and three. They've heard of numerous American citizens, and guess what happened to the individuals that carried out those killings? What happened to them? Have they been prosecuted in any investigations, do you know? I believe they have not. Why? It's almost as if, when you commit violence, you are going to be protected. That's what's going on. That's why Kristi Noem went out and said that Alex Freddie was a domestic terrorist. That's why Stephen Miller said the same thing and everybody in the entire Republican Party apparatus is echoing those talking points Because whenever there's violence, yeah, Tim Poole was also cheering Renee Good's death This is one of the first instances where this dumb fuck liberal guy Joshua Reed Eagle actually brings up a good point here. Okay, let's take a look at how Tim Poole responded to Renee Good's murder But first of all when these people come out go Tim's a bootlicker for defending us. I'm like, no, no you misunderstand It's my boots. It's mine. I voted for them. I'm wearing the boot. I'm stomping on the ground. I ain't licking anybody I'm clapping for these people that I said, please go out and enforce the law and anybody else who's cheered for moderate by the way I Love I love moderation in my politics Okay, I love moderation. That's like bro. That's calling me a moderate. Okay, like I know I'm not a moderate, right? I'm nowhere near in terms of the the there's no moral equivalence with what I speak on and what he speaks on and what he defends of course having said that I would recognize that I'm not moderate but neither is Tim moderate under what standard. He's moderate for 1938 Nazi Germany, I guess. What the fuck? This is why moderation is such a frustrating, constantly shifting target. It's just so annoying. We were like, I'm a moderate. We voted for it too. We're all wearing the boots. You're the one crying. You're the one saying you're coming by the way this perfectly identifies the insecurity and fascist movements both historically and in contemporary fascism it's the idea that state the the state enforcement and the state violence is somehow actually making you feel powerful because the state is taking care of your enemies your ideological enemies the enemies that you've invented in your mind it literally is a power cock fantasy okay it comes with the recognition that you are powerless it comes with the recognition that you know you're a fucking loser and that you have no power in this process whatsoever. So from your perspective, you're like, well, at least the state is doing something. Hasan, you are a moderate and not in a bad way. You're a moderate Hasan, just not in America. I mean, I'm talking about American politics. I get what you're saying. But they could they don't condemn it. They condone it. They, they congratulated and they parted it. Law enforcement's duly elected by a population that voted in plurality for ICE to go out and engage in these kill-american citizens? Which sometimes, yes, absolutely. And- Oh, they voted for ICE to kill American citizens, really? Yes. Do you- do you- do you- The average Republican- I don't think they're that- Who said the average Republican would vote? But do you not believe that there are people in this country that would vote for ICE to harm people? Is that your- is this your argument? Do you believe- This is terrible. So you think not a single person in this country- Wait, why would he- oh my God, why would he lean into that? He's He said yeah me and my crew we're fucking crazy We voted for this awful shit I mean, I guess he's not wrong It's it's fucking kfc double downtime, baby. He just said fucking yeah Entry wants to harm illegal weapons We're talking about the fact that there's a top-down approach by republicans like donald trump Can I ask you the question again? Can you answer the question? And allow it to happen foment violence in this country Can you answer the question? And you're running cover for it. Can you? Actually, you just did. No, I didn't. See, I'm pointing at... I'm pointing at ICE violence. You're saying that people vote for it or whatever. You don't think that there are white supremacists voting for ICE to go and harm migrants? Are you saying that white supremacists voted for Donald Trump so they could kill migrants? Yes, I am. Okay. Good to know that white supremacists make up part of the Republican Party and Donald Trump's doing their bidding. Yes, I certainly believe they do. The initial claim that I'm making is that there is absolutely violence on the right. I already agree with one of the previous debaters that there's institutional violence from the right as well. The best argument against my claim actually is that the right when they get levers of power will use law enforcement as their as their vehicle for the violence that they want to engage in. Those things are all fair. My point is that we are not so long drone out concession. Thank you for, but it's not a concession because maybe maybe we agree. Okay, my controversial take and no disrespect to even Mason as well. But the first 25 minutes, even for such a faulty premise, wasn't as much of a ritualistic humiliation for Tim Poole as I wanted it to be. I'm not going to lie. Like this section was kind of ass because it was mostly just like semantics, mostly semantics about mainstream versus non-mainstream. Cause like the facts are not on the side. I think he could have, I think that even Republicans that watch this, their takeaway won't be that Tim Poole got fucking destroyed in the first 25 minutes, but, but let's wait and let's see where this goes sierra i think it is a modern political left-wing small violence in our political rights and i say just because there are riots coming from the left does not mean they're morally right or wrong or does not mean the right is better or worse this is a statement about volume of violence that we see in a meaningful issue to a voter as to what is the underlying motivation that we see pushing if i go on jubb i'm going to be like you have to put me down as a of moderate. Yeah, the title is moderate versus 20 hogs. Give me the hoggiest of hogs. Moderate versus 20 chuds. It's in this country. So when you have ice going and engaging in these actions, this is like a Clarence Thomas level of interpretation without prompt. That is not, I don't know why you're trying so hard to disagree when we actually have common ground. Pause. We are out of time. Thank you. The ultimate biohacker secret weapon has made a wild claim is that the Democratic Party has embraced authoritarianism. Let me guess. COVID, COVID, right? These guys have one thing and that's COVID. From the American perspective, and I guess there's a little bit of truth to this, right? All government functions are authoritarian. Depending on how far down the right-wing rabbit hole you are, you even say taxation is theft, for example, right? Libertarians think that taxation is theft. And that the government is authoritarian and forcing you to pay taxes, stealing money from you at gunpoint. if you don't pay for it, you go to prison. And I guess it's technically not wrong, okay? Because it goes in either direction. Authority is a normal and necessary function of governance, okay? It is. My argument, and I think the socialist argument in general on authority, the socialist position on authority is that the government should play the role of authority. However, the goals should be to, you know, create the most productive society, create the most, create the best possible society. I can't even talk. Create the best possible society. As in, generate the best possible outcomes, okay? So yeah, authority simply put is an enforcement of a certain set of laws, rules, regulations, that everybody has decided are apt, they're adequate, they're necessary, okay? So technically, you could fucking say seat belts are authoritarian, drunk driving laws are authoritarian. For pedophiles, the age of consent laws are authoritarian, right? Do you see what I'm saying. And for Tim Poole, I suspect he's going to say COVID restrictions were authoritarian, right? That's what he's going to say. If you'd like to be the first to be there, please get to the chair and three, two, one. That was fast. Nice to meet you. Let's start off not by, oh God, don't make me defend Republicans. Let's go, let's go. All right. Let's talk about authoritarianism. Yeah. What does an authoritarian government do? So it's typically, and particularly in my claim, it's a reference to suppression of dissent, suppression of speech, control of voting or manipulation of voting. Okay, wait, wait, dog, you chose the worst prompt for this. He's just describing what the Republicans are doing currently. What the fuck? He's just like, my definition of authoritarianism is actually what Trump is doing currently, down to a T. And I really like it when Trump is doing it, but I hated it when the Democrats were doing it. For the power. Because what did the Democrats do? Joe Biden made every vaccine truth or get banned on Facebook. That's authoritarianism. When Donald Trump is actively trying to create the new McCarthy trials, that's actually freedom. I voted for this. I like it. I'm wearing the boot. For the, let's just call it control by a particular group of politically- Let's take those claims one at a time. First, on suppression of speech. Just a few hours ago today, Trump's subpoenaed reporters for trying to report accurate information on the war in Iran. That's terrible. That can't happen awful. That's way more authoritarian than what we're seeing on the left here Well, I mean if it's hard to quantify what is more or less authoritarian But certainly bad when President Trump is trying to stifle speed. Wait really? What's more authoritarian America or China? What's more authoritarian North Korea or the United States of America? We mean it's hard to quantify It's your fucking prompt. What do you mean? It's hard to quantify. What's more authoritarian? Then why did you why is that your prompt? Wait, can you give any example of Biden doing anything even comparable to that? I can. We can start with Alex Barenson who is currently in a lawsuit because the Biden administration personally went to social media platforms using his name to be suspended for his uh... reporting on the covered vaccination and and and and and it's okay at top level though who's doing the majority of the late actual suppression of speech here i i i don't really have good words republican party to be honest my my my issue with this debate is is that you know i'm a moderate but i don't have enough good words for the republican party as a moderate i happen to agree with the republicans ninety nine point nine percent of the time and that zero point one percent of the time i still agree with them but i act like i don't in fact what we're seeing right now is that i'll make a claim about the democratic party which has done awful things and the meet responses but the republicans and i don't like republicans say we live in a two-party set dog he said trot was gonna win a forty nine state landslide. What are you talking about? Who is this for? Wait, is there a single person on the planet who thinks Tim Poole is like a moderate or a hater of the Republican Party? Is there anyone out there who actually believes that? Is there anyone in his audience that believes that? At this point, you can't climb back onto the fence, man. Yes, I've met them? Wait, what? Really? There's people? There are people who know they're right-wingers and they like the idea of someone who is not always someone who is fair and balanced, who defends the Republicans. But they still understand that he's always defending the Republicans. oh my god people can't be that fucking stupid right oh my god i guess they are oh we have a real crisis of stupid right we can have this great grip of like oh well the democrat yes the guy who watched roach in my work wait does the guy who watched roach also think asmen roach is a moderate So, the moderate position is murdering immigrant children, like your co-worker watches a guy who says like Nick Fuentes has good ideas. A guy who says like everything Trump has done is fucking spectacular. A guy who is demanding that border patrol murder migrant children. That guy is a moderate. Do you really believe that come on? I mean, I'ma be honest, I kinda do, yeah, because people are really stupid, bro. People are fucking dumb as shit. I just don't even know what would be more right-wing than that. Like a demand to murder children in the hands of law enforcement. Like, if you consider that people are not that bad, think of the average person. I do. I meet the average person all the time, but sometimes I also think about like how dumb the average person is. And I think maybe as long as someone says they're a moderate, people don't really think beyond that where they go, look at this moderate guy. Like I I do legitimately believe that if I presented myself as moderate all the time and I said I'm moderate, but then advocated for fucking whatever I'm advocating for currently, I probably would have a bigger, more, more charitable audience of like stupid people who would be like, what do you mean? He's just moderate. He just wants healthcare. That seems like a moderate position. Like actually, I think like a lot of political normies, a lot of political normies, I think genuinely think that like being apolitical is like a is like the highest state of being like, I'm too smart for politics. It's the rat race, both, Both sides don't give a shit But if I started off If I started off with uh, I'm a moderate and that's the reason why I believe in higher degrees of socialization for You know and the government function for uh taking over health care and and you know abolishing profiteering Uh in in certain avenues like ages and I just kept saying I'm a moderate. I'm a moderate like people I don't agree with socialists at all. I'm a moderate. Democrats are bad, but we can, and the Republicans, they might be worse, but the Democrats are still bad. But the option is between Democrats or Republicans. Yes. So if Republicans are worse, it doesn't really matter if Democrats are slightly bad. No, I think Democrats are worse. We don't love Democrats. Well, we feel that Republicans are way worse when they institute these thoughts. But I think Democrats are worse. We don't love Democrats, but we feel that Republicans are way worse when they institute these far more authoritarian policies. It's hard to quantify more. The question is, does it suppress speech? And I certainly think Donald Trump has taken actions. Let's look at human lives. We want to do like a quantification here. Let's look at ICE. Three American citizens have been killed by ICE. That's way more than the number of American citizens killed by immigration enforcement under sale Obama. But it's way less than the amount of American citizens killed by Barack Obama. No, it is. Yes, it is. Okay, well, I don't want to be disrespectful, but one of the biggest issues to me is the extrajudicial assassination of Abdurrahman al-Alaqi by the Obama administration. And this is what, early on in my life, when I was very anti-war, very lefty, still anti-war, and voted for Barack Obama, and then he murdered us. Were you afraid of a war in Iran? Absolutely not. And if Barack Obama killed a 16-year-old American citizen who was at a civilian restaurant in Yemen, these are all bad things. We can play this game. We can be like, oh, well, both parties are pretty bad. We have to when they go to the ballot office when I go to the ballot office as a voter I have to actually put in a vote. I have to decide. I just don't believe that Tim pool is anti war. I'm sorry like There's is Tim pool anti Iran war. He's just saying it right like I don't watch Tim pool. So I don't know But he's been so pro-Israel I doubt that he's anti Iran war right Never mind, first thing that comes up is media matters. All the way back. In March, Tim Poulse says the Iran War looks to be a massive blunder and that the facts are being reported does not bode well for Donald Trump and this is looking to be a massive, massive mistake. i think he is pro-yemenby uh... i think he's all for you and because he's pro-wrestling now no no no the the uh... brock obama committed an extra judicial assassination of an american citizen is the classic like uh... fake anti-dom war remember they always anti-dom war republican it's also obviously anti-obama so that's a big one too anti-Obama that's a good way to like shit on Obama. So there's that element of this as well. These guys always say, oh, I am anti-dumb war. Okay, whenever someone says like, whenever someone refuses to say they're anti-war, but instead says they're anti-dumb wars, just understand that they're pro-war. They're just considering whatever war that we're currently engaging it to be a dumb one a democrat or republican or throw my vote away and vote for some third party if i'm picking between those and there's one he's a libertarian who actually celebrated the assassination of renae good and alex preddy so uh that doesn't really mean anything it who just brought us into a war in iran is causing this massive conflict tons of human suffering that's foreign that's foreign policy domestically we see ice attacks on american citizens we see 56 people dying in ICE detention camps in just a singular year you compare that to under Obama the deporter in chief across eight years 52 people died way way way fewer what we're seeing is dangerous conditions domestically way more people are dying right we have a lot of this like qualitative discussion you bring up a lot of anecdotes but if you actually like quantify the number of deaths that are occurring through these authoritarian mechanisms it's very very clear that when I vote I'm choosing the lesser of two evils let's let's talk let's talk about a few structures of authoritarianism we'll go with 2016 and you brought up Donald Trump's opinion these journalists so we'll get broad on this one in 2016 Gizmodo published an article that Facebook had had been suppressing news and information from conservative outlets I think it was the verge it wasn't even Gizmodo but it doesn't matter oh my god I can't believe he's bringing this back up I cannot believe it it's not COVID no this is pre- day in COVID. Oh my God, this is right in my wheelhouse. I hate this so much. I hate this so much. First of all, that wasn't government authoritarianism. That was tech platforms trying to be woke. And secondly, what's crazy about that information was that they still, the algorithm still favored right wing commentary, okay? And not only that, but because Republicans made such a big deal about this. I was there, okay? I was literally there. I was a political commentator. I was on Facebook, okay? So I remember this intimately, okay? I remember this vividly. I was fucking there. Republicans brought tech CEOs and everybody else in front of Congress, okay? And they bullied them in the same way that under the Biden administration, they had brought forward, you know, gay and all these other presidents of colleges to bully them and badger them over the head with like fucking anti-Semitism allegations because they weren't sufficiently pro-Israelan campuses. So basically, they did the same exact thing. That's what the Republicans did back then. And what they got out of that was incredible. They created a board at Facebook for moderation. That was like all heritage foundation guys. Okay? And Facebook was already slanted to the right. Facebook was already slanted to the right in 2016. And after that point, their moderation boards were completely, were comprised entirely of right-wingers. And then it exploded. Right-wing sentiment exploded on Facebook. It might have played a role, A formative role in QAnon exploding amongst the boomers. Okay, so the idea that like, oh, Facebook was doing woke by force in an authoritarian manner because the Obama administration had demanded them to do so is fucking bullshit. This is Gizmodo. They're a progressive outlet. In fact, I worked for the company that owned them and I was a Bernie supporter in 2016. And so agreeing with this reporting and knowing the reporters behind it, I reported this. NBC News, all of these major institutions then claimed I was a right-wing conspiracy theorist. Let me finish. For claiming that these things happened that they reported on, then what we learned is that under Obama and under Biden, and don't get me wrong. This is not Cambridge Analytica chatters. This is not Cambridge Analytica. That came after. This is around the same time, I guess it predates Cambridge Analytica. Yeah. Wrong. This was under Trump as well. There was an active effort from the FBI. They were given a backdoor access to Twitter and Facebook to remove content that they thought objectionable to the government. And it was not done at the best of Trump or for his benefits, but to the benefit of those who had been defending him in the press. So notably myself, who was calling out these censorship practices, I was falsely slandered and maligned by the media over this. These are institutions. Now when you say that Donald Trump has met them, I agree, subpoenaing journalists depending on the issue can be bad. But to see that depending on the issue, depending on the issue, there's valid reasons to be a journal assistant, Polgata. And into Biden, they were actively given access. This is a violation of the Fourth Amendment. There's a violation of the First Amendment. Missing something really important. We're lumping together all of these different types of sort of suppression of speech, but there's a fundamental difference. When we see like left leading suppression of speech, often that happens from like a bottom up, where you see that's not what I'm talking about. Taking an action. No, I gave you a specific example, the Biden administration going to a major big tech company, giving them specific instructions to remove people who are saying naughty words in the context of COVID, where vaccination was really, really important back to the lives were saved by vaccines. We have a really strong reason for why you want to be an authoritarian. They always have a reason and saving lives is always one of the fundamental difference between suppressing free speech on say the war in Iran where there's really bad stuff going on and we need to talk about it and say spreading vaccine misinformation. In the U.S. we've had really long- You have a moral opinion on the differences of importance. That's fine. But we're talking about authoritarianism has many different reasons. Did you think that all the tyrants of the world never gave a reason as to why they needed absolute authority? They always did. And they always do. And even today it's the case whether it's Trump or anybody else. Yeah. And when Trump gives a reason, I agree with it. I'm Tim Poole and I agree with Trump's reasons for authoritarianism. And also at the same, dude, what the fuck is this conversation? Like, Timple is literally saying peak authoritarianism is when, you know, woke Facebook or tech companies were taking their notes from epidemiologists in the Biden administration during the peak of like vaccine hesitancy campaigns that America was literally actually conducting in places like the Philippines, ironically enough, but we're so, we're so fucking stupid that we ended up making ourselves vaccine hesitant as well, which was a huge problem is a national security concern. It's obviously an issue for the economy. Of course, the government is going to have to try to deal with that somehow. And we are still forced to deal with it, ironically enough. The vaccine hesitancy in America is abysmal. It's crazy. We got old-ass diseases that were eradicated coming back, dude. dude. Anyway, anyway, I find that really, really annoying that you're saying that's peak authoritarianism, but what Donald Trump is doing right now is not. What Donald Trump is doing right now is valid. It's nowhere near as damaging or devastating as what Biden did with the Facebook thing. So when Biden's administration said, because COVID misinformation kills, we will silence That's authoritarianism. You can argue that you agree with it, but it still is authoritarianism How about we can use Cuomo in New York as an example? He shut down churches in violation of the First Amendment and when he was sued and lost he Oh, I knew it. It was all COVID It was all COVID a secondary executive order changing the words to keep the churches closed That is authoritarianism and you you right now defending it is my point I have no problem saying Trump should not go after journalists But you seem to have a problem saying the Democratic administrations should not be doing what they're doing Pause pause. You've been voted out by the majority. Please If you'd like to be the next debater, please get to the chair in three two one You made it I'm surprised you made it So, one of the key parts about authoritarianism is influence over elections. And we've seen that throughout the history of right wing and left wing, the right wing side of this country has constantly been election deniers. Famously, Trump tried to find votes in Georgia to win the 2020 election. Now we're seeing that they're claiming voter fraud in the city of Los Angeles mayor's race. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. How many presidential elections in the last 20 years were denied by Democrats? We're denied by Democrats. Yeah, but my mainstream members of Congress going on the floor Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, there's no way. He's gonna fucking Try to do the semantics game here to really the party of January 6 He's gonna be like, oh, there's uh, there claims in 2001, which was valid by the way that that election was stolen stolen, ironically enough. That is a real election that was stolen. That's like an actual election that was stolen. It's never happened since, uh, it's fucking bullshit. But regardless, regardless, if he turns around and says like, Oh, well, Democrats complain when Republicans win as though that's the same as like, uh, refusing to, to recognize the integrity of our elections, you're out of your fuck of mind. all of them. What do you see? What? Dude, the biggest issue was Al Gore conceded. What is this? After George W. Bush 2000 victory, Al Gore pursued Florida recount litigation and conceded. That was the problem. It was stolen and he should have never conceded. But even And then he conceded, once Supreme Court halted the recount, 2005 Senator Barbara Boxer, Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones made a formal objection to Ohio's electoral votes over legislative regularities, which both chambers rejected after John Kerry had conceded. Following Trump's 2016 win, Hillary Clinton, Jimmy Carter, John Lewis, and other Democrats. Democratic Party trying to create an alternate slate of electors to actually try and overturn a democratically elected. That's not a different argument. Also, what does this have to do with authoritarianism? I don't even understand. Like, there is literally no comparison between liberals. If you were to ask me, if you were to ask me, I think liberals concede too much, okay? Like 2000, they should have never, they should have fucking made a way bigger fuss. The Brooks Brothers riot is what did them in, you know what I mean? For an argument, but no, that was in, I think that would have been 1960, but certainly not in the last 20 years. So we can completely agree Trump's efforts in 2020 were substantially different from, say a handful of members of Congress and high-profile personalities. Yeah, question is legitimacy, primarily citing Russian interviews and House members attempted objections to Senate support. Clinton conceded on November 9th. So that is a ridiculous fact check. Hillary Clinton conceded literally the night of the election. It's fucking bullshit. There is no comparison to what Trump did. Okay, none. The only time where it was valid to demand a recount that was stopped through the Brooks Brothers riot. ironically enough and also because of, of, uh, the, the initiative by Jeff Bush at the time, governor of Florida was in 2000, that was a stolen election. There were actual real in let irregularities, the, the hanging chads where, you know, Jewish neighborhoods in fucking Florida were voting for a Pat Buchanan, I think, right? Or not Pat Buchanan. Was the public and i think it was right in my crazy it was right yet anyway is fucking ridiculous it was ridiculous it was not uh... uh... it was it was totally totally stolen coming out saying that the election is a legitimate but i will say wall is not particularly what i was trying to actively our groups across social media that believe the election was stolen just go on threads friend for a few minutes reds you will see kinds of progressives are doing election was told tons of parts you know i'm really well if you don't wait what do you mean tons of progressives argue that the election so who gives a fuck did we talk about give me a fucking prominent democrat give me one fucking prominent democrat that is actually ever significant seriously advanced the our argument that the elections were stolen ever you can't even point the fucking al gore when the election was actually stolen because he conceded on the supreme court decision even though he didn't agree with it and he should have in my opinion in the real people that's fine so look but but but so that it's not about the right or the left overall again we are talking about the overall picture here where is the majority of this coming from well let me ask you a question you mentioned california uh... i wanna ask you a question uh... let's let's say there's an election that takes place and a ballot comes in three days after that election. It's signed with a picture of Mickey Mouse and it's hand-dated. Do you think that is a real vote? So guess what? In California, when you don't have a correct signature, you can do this thing called ballot hearing where you take that ballot back to the voter and you say, is this really you and you have to get that signature again. I don't think they registered with the Mickey Mouse signature. Well, that's actually legal in California. In fact, the example given, I think, in Santa Barbara is a Kirby star image. Now, the challenge with this is, and that's when not a fan of the fraud argument from republicans to stop something fraud this is legal in california in california you can draw a picture of kirby star in any manifestation god let me let me just uh... address something here okay something that i repeat all the fucking time american elections are safe and secure regardless of what republicans lie about american elections are safe and secure they have been endlessly, endlessly, uh, uh, investigated by Republicans, by bipartisan committees. The notion that American elections have, uh, high levels of irregularities is fucking bullshit. Okay. It's made up. It's completely made up. The fact check also, uh, presents that as well. The Santa Barbara Mickey Mouse signature claim traced to a rhetorical comment by a local Republican official about in-person polling place, sign in sheets, not evidence that a ballot with a cartoon signature was accepted. The same Santa Barbara GOP review ultimately found no voter fraud. Now the problem is signatures are supposed to be unique to an individual because they're, they would be falsifiable. Meaning I've never seen your signature before. How can I match it? But if you sign up, if you sign up, if registered a vote with a picture of Kirby, anyone in the world can draw the picture of Kirby. So in California, the challenge that I see- Yeah, but not everybody has the same name, the same social security, I can't just- You know what the point is, if a ballot is received by a homeless shelter, anyone can fill it out and draw a picture of Kirby Star. So there's a limited number of ballots that get sent to registered voters who are registered with the state. Well it's universal mail-in voting and for instance there was a homeless shelter in Venice Beach that received 185 mail-in votes despite no one living there. And so because people that live on the street have addresses registered to shelters because they don't have anything else to get mailed. And so what we've already seen is undercover video showing that activists do go to places like Skid Row and secure a voter registration where in one video a man who's clearly not a woman says his name is Teresa sure he'll fill it out now the problem is that man will fill this out under the name Teresa he will sign up he'll put an X a mark which is legal in California the other issue is that ballots can be received about so it gets complicated but in California it's received before the election it can be hand-dated if it's received after the election it has to be post-dated however a ballot can only be rejected if two independent independent officials can prove beyond a reasonable doubt it has violated one of these times. So I do take issue with Republican saying voter fraud, voter fraud all the time when it's legal to do this in California. But I think if you go to a regular, a regular American and say, you ask him this question and I'll ask you this question, how did Nick? What's the, what's the margin of victory for the Democrats the state of California. Let's look. California presidential election result. In 2028, 58.5% of the state voted for the Democrat and 38.3% voted for the Republican is actually higher than 2020 for the Republican side. Okay. All right. Did I say 2028? I'm sorry. I meant 2024. Oops. I just admitted that the elections are stolen and I'm giving you the I'm giving you the future election. Okay. Let's see how many people voted though. I want to see what the number is. I know you like the number. I know you like the number. All right. Let's take a look. Okay. Uh, what are the number? Okay. Uh, 2024 Kamala Harris running for president, right? 9.2 million votes. Give or take for Donald Trump for Donald Trump. Only six million votes. Okay. So the difference is 3.2 million votes. Is Tim Poole claiming that there are 3.2 million homeless people in the state of California that had the false registration of ballots? Is that what happened, Tim? They found 3.2 million fake ballots? Now, of course, these elections are unbelievably secure, and people, you know, there's investigations conducted after the fact. So I don't know if Tim Poole thinks that there are 3.2 million false registered homeless people with Mickey Mouse signatures but that would be fucking insane don't you think it is such a crazy argument it is such a crazy argument that this would actually break elections all together okay there'd be bedlam there'd be riots in the fucking streets It's ridiculous to see a ramen surpass Karen Bass, both Democrats and mail-in votes only after election day because wait what? No. No, I hate this argument. Oh my God. It's the dumbest argument. I hope this guy knows the answer to it because young people vote late. Young people drop mail-in ballots in California, but late closer to election day or on election I myself included young people vote later and if you're ramen won the young vote Well, the truth is that the DSA on their website advocates for ballot harvesting, which is legal and they're allowed to do it And I more power to them. It's very smart. So do the Republicans They go to security to senior centers all across the country and get we're gonna pause here and vote it up Yeah, what what so they ballot harvested what? Welcome ridiculous I think elections are sacred and I believe that they are the most fundamental thing to to American values and democracy. I just don't understand. There's so many more things that they could be talking about instead of elections as far as Trump's authoritarianism. Am I crazy? Am I wild? Why aren't they talking about like ice murders, like unproscuted ice murders, Trump's crackdown on fucking free speech, Trump advancing the Project Esther and Project 2025, big components of project 2025 are obviously about. Like I think Tim kind of redirected the conversation back to elections. Weirdly enough, when they should be talking about the national security presidential memorandum seven NSPM seven that has declared anyone and everyone that's a political dissident to be a terrorist potentially. You could talk about, um, yeah, you could talk about like abortion restrictions. I mean, there's so many different, uh, functions of the government that Donald Trump has greatly accelerated that is authoritarian. Yeah. Expanding presidential immunity like We have never seen, ever in American history, the attempt to subvert a free and fair election compared to how Donald Trump and his cronies did on January 6th. And I think that it's absolutely ridiculous to claim that that is somehow comparable to the Biden administration talking to Facebook and certain social media platforms to ban Donald Trump. Fair. When social media platforms... Never mind. Fair. fair standard if you are complaining about fucking biden if you are complaining about joe biden like cracking down on speech or whatever but like you don't consider the january six shit to be like uh... you know far more authoritarian than it's you know i've been under attack by don trump as well we had in florida happy right now chair of the rnc was is now uh... pursuing legal action against uh... face book twitter etc for banning dull trump which was a decision that they made without biden's interference well i i don't think i don't think arguing about the civil litigation isn't it's it's hard to it's hard to argue civil litigation is a big political issue if if there was if there's a contract violation committed by a company trump wants to see them certainly if you have the opinion you don't believe that there is a lot of business there current rnc chair but right right right my argument is doing it like regulatory action against them for banning Donald Trump. Right, so these are civil issues and the challenge is, I don't know the facts, you don't know the facts. You don't think civil issues can be political? They certainly can. But the point I'm making is that sometimes companies do bad things and we need regulatory bodies to go after them. I'm in favor of that. But the question is, are the Republicans bad for doing it? Honestly, I don't know because I don't know the underlying issues of the case. Maybe they are, maybe they're not. So I'll bring up another instance. I mean, in Massachusetts, for example, we just had two Republicans who were running for a trade general and lieutenant governor who were literally faking signatures on their ballots, literal dead people, and if you look at the papers, they're the same signature down the ballot. Yeah. Trump sides with Jusha against the cowardly South Korean government. Yeah, this is where I'm going to be at odds with the liberals. It's actually a unique predicament because Actually, this is probably good for South Korea as well. This is one of those instances where Donald Trump is like low key, not the worst on as far as like moving or advancing in the direction of normalizing relations with Cuba or Cuba, Korea, sorry, normalizing relations between South Korea and North Korea. He did this last time around as well. And I defended it. I wish it would normalize relations with Cuba. Fuck. But, yeah, no, this is a solid move. The real, dude, you want to hear some crazy, I want to hear some crazy. Donald Trump has been far better on the Korea issue than Biden was. As a matter of fact, the fake coup d'etat one could even say happened under the watchful gaze of the brandonian administration. Donald Trump bar none out of all of our contemporary presidents is probably one of the best on the Korea issue. And I don't know if it's because he just like loves Kim Jong-un or something. I don't know what the fuck it is, but low key, low key. This is the one area where I, you know, haven't criticized them as much as a matter of fact, I've defended it. When people ask me like, Oh, what did you back in the day with in Trump one, people would always ask me, what is like one good policy of Donald Trump? So I would always say Korea. I would always say Korea, because a big part of the reason why, I mean, regards to the internal dynamics, the domestic policies in South Korea and regards to the military action that Trump actually took in North Korea, if you remember, he, I think in Trump one, They sent like Delta Force or something and they just like slaughtered a bunch of Korean fishermen. It was disgusting. And then that information leaked about that operation. It was really fucked up. But outside of that, as far as like the broader, as far as the broader conversation, allowing South Korea and North Korea to communicate with one another without American intervention and also restricting the military operations in the Korean Peninsula, that was actually good. That was, unironically, a real move by the American government in the direction of a far better peaceable negotiation between DPRK and South Korea. On the one hand, they put the fads there in Trump won, which actually destroyed South Korea's relationship with China at the time. So that wasn't good. On the other hand, this time around Donald Trump took the fads, which then the South Korean government got pissed off about because they were like, well, what the fuck? We lost billions of dollars in economic activity and trade from China because you You put these thads here, and then you took them away from us without us having a single say in the matter. Why do we lose billions of dollars of trade from China if you're gonna take the thads away from us so you can panic ship them to Israel? So Trump giveth and Trump taketh. That is the art of the steal. That is the art of the deal, okay? But, reducing military activity in the Korean Peninsula is always a good thing, because it allows, it allows South Korea and North Korea to deal with one another as peers. Okay? That's why, ironically enough, Biden, who ran on, you know, normalizing international rule-based order and all that shit kind of fucked it. Kind of fucked it pretty hard Both with Israel but then even with South Korea Because if you recall when Biden was president South Korea had a in-cell psychopathic In-cell psychopathic president who facilitated a fake coup d'etat Ta tried to do a coup d'etat if you remember and then the people got really mad and then they stormed the fucking parliament and you know democracy thrived that day that was a day where liberalism took uh that was a day where liberalism actually defended against authoritarian initiatives it was kind of crazy that fake coup could not have been facilitated without the biden administration's watchful gaze and part of the reason why i'm saying that is because the The Biden administration did not communicate their criticisms of the president at the time and their initiatives. It was crazy. They didn't say a single damn thing about it, which leads me to believe that they were probably not upset about it, I guess. I don't know what their calculation for Korea was. I'll be honest. Biden's calculation was giving a bone to China because they're saving oil markets. It's a mix with America lacking any carries in any stage. It could be a retreat from the Asian pivot. Oh, no, it is. Yes. I already told you guys this. The Strait of Hormuz and the Gulf of Persia is where the dreams of American Sabre rattling against China died. Okay. That Beijing summit was the end. It's over. Anyone that doesn't recognize how over the Asia-Pacific theater is, is delusional. Okay? The quote-unquote pivot to Asia that started under the Obama administration, it's done. It is done. Okay? It's done. And it's really funny that it's happening at a time when Japan, which is the number one op of China in that region, but also the number one trade partner, is becoming increasingly more militant against China. And talking about potentially building their self defense forces, which is unconstitutional, according to the Japanese Constitution, talking about building their industrial base for defense. Talk about making the worst bet of all time. Talk about making the worst bet of all time, where America is forced to retreat from the region when you are completely, when America is killing its Asia pivot. Japan is like, no, we got this dude. We'll fucking take over Taiwan if necessary. That was, when I was in China, that was the talk of town. If you remember when I was visiting China, when I was traveling through China, Takahashi came out and said, we will defend Taiwan with military force if necessary. That is a major no-no, not because like, you know, obviously the People's Republic has as ambitions for unification, peaceful reunification, or maybe even militarily unifying across the the Taiwanese Strait. But that also was a somber reminder of Japanese imperial fascism, because they occupied Taiwan. So they were basically saying, like, we're going to occupy Taipei again. That's the way that it was read by the Chinese government, by the mainland. That was a massive fuckup of diplomacy. So the fact that Takahichi is going further and further right and engaging in more jingoistic sentiment against China at a time when America is retreating from the Asia pivot is very funny. I don't know where it goes. I think Japanese, I think that Japanese politics is probably going to change dramatically as well in the next decade or so because there's, do you have nothing? Because if you, if you think about it, I mean, aside from their economies, these places are basically holdover states for American military to like launch campaigns if they want to. So the Japanese economy is fucked, the yen is imploding, and also on top of that, they're taking a more right-wing position. It's just, it's unsustainable. It's completely unsustainable. Japan loves surprises. True. They do love surprises. But Japan also notoriously, even if I disagree with what America did here, Japan also notoriously has received tremendous blowback for said surprises. So I wouldn't, if I was Japan I wouldn't be moving in this dangerous direction. That's all I'm saying. For top officials in Japan's ruling party will be visiting the Yasukuni Shrine tomorrow. Prime Minister Takahashi is expected to avoid the shrine for diplomatic reasons, but the LDP Secretary General, General Counsel, chair, this is the war crime one, right? An election strategy committee chair will make a group visit. These are all important policies that Takahashi picked, the top spots, top posts for the party. Local media reports of individual visits by politicians are common, but a group visit by top party executives like this is rare. It seems that Takeuchi also communicated to conservative voters that her party supports the shrine, even if she won't personally visit on the 15th. The Yasukuni shrine is diplomatically problematic because it enshrines Imperial Japan's war debt, including World War II leaders who were executed as Class A war criminals after the war. Yasukuni's museum does not describe World War II as a war of aggression and treats wartime leaders such as Tojo as martyrs in the past. The United States, South Korea in China have protested when Prime Minister visited the shrine. Takechi has previously visited the Yasukuni shrine on many occasions. Before becoming Prime Minister, she said, if I were ever to become the leader of Japan, I would like to continue visiting. I feel very strongly about this. Even if the Prime Minister does not visit, it is likely she will have someone send an offering on her behalf. Dude, Takechi is a fucking psycho. And it's so crazy because like Japanese site broadly loves him. Like the Japanese youth love him because they find her to be like, so cute and so youthful. It is such dude. I don't even want to talk about Japanese politics. It really fucks me up Anyway, let's just let's just move on from Japanese politics. I don't know how the fuck we got here God i'm so much more invested in this conversation than fucking watching timpool Talk about how trump is non-authoritarian anyway Japanese politics very shuddy. Yes japan and and uh iran are two two nations with autism in very different ways, okay? Two autistic nations, but like very different kinds of autism. I would go so far as to say China is also a very autistic nation, but also a different kind of autism. Maybe closer to the Iranian style of autism. The Islamic Republic of Japan. Anyway, Trump says he ordered Pete Hexit to substantially reduce joint US-South Korea diplomatic military exercises, citing his relationship with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and calling the drills hostile. Trump says he's helping North Korea because South Korea refused to join his failed war against Iran. Yeah, this is a dumb reason, but the real reason, it's not a bad thing. This is not a bad thing. It's a good thing. Okay? But that's Trump. He's going to fucking say whatever dumb fuck reason he has. But the real point behind this is probably throwing a bone to PRC, to China, and also allowing South Korea and North Korea to normalize relations amongst themselves, which is not a bad thing. That is a good thing, okay? The reason that he's bringing up is fucking stupid, and I don't even trust him on that. I don't think that's the reason why he's doing it. Because he was like this last time around as well, weirdly enough. Dude, imagine in our lifetime, Korea reunification, Korea reunification in our lifetime under Trump would be insane. Probably not gonna happen, but... Why do you always want Europe to be sovereign but Japanese sovereignty is bad? How dare a small island nation that's not Cuba try to protect their sovereignty against a much larger neighbor wait, what? When did I say I don't want Japanese sovereignty, what are you talking about Japan is basically a fucking come sleep for America. What the fuck? Are you joking also doing small being Japan is crazy What, what is the argument that you're trying to make? Are you saying that Japan reoccupying Taipei would be good for Taiwanese liberation or something? Is that the argument you're making? Did you forget what Japan did? Do you know what Japan did? Let's start there. Do you know what Japan did during World War II? Are you familiar? Because they were doing their own Holocaust in China. They were also occupying China, including Taipei, colonial occupation. They did a Holocaust in China. i want every country to have sovereignty and i want every country to to have whatever kind of trade relations that they want to have with other nations uh... whether they are considered foreign adversaries of the united states america not the fuck matter to me you just want world peace now that simple yes Anyway, based on my very good relationship with Kim Jong-un of North Korea, I am not happy with the fact that United States has long ago agreed to participate in joint military exercises with South Korea. These exercises are not only costly, with much of these costs paid for by the United States of America, as usual, but send a signal that is totally inappropriate and hostile to a country that, as long as Donald J. Trump has been president, has been unthreatening and respectful. Therefore, and based on the fact that it is too late to cancel, I have instructed Secretary of War Pete Hegseth to substantially reduce the joint military exercises. While somewhat unrelated, I recently asked the president of South Korea if they would like to join us in the denuclearization of the Islamic Republic of Japan, not Iran, but Japan. And they said, no, thanks. Thank you for your attention. This matter, President Al Jazeera. I hope liberals don't eat the bait on this, which is probably not going to happen because they get really mad about this shit. They'll say, oh, this is a betrayal of our allies, but it's not. I don't know what the current South Korean government's attitude is, I suspect it's far better in terms of normalizing relationships because it was like moon was doing that and then It's it's moon and then you right The incel was not the incel was like super right wing and far more reactionary about The the dealings with North Korea and then this new guy is also The new guys also woke or in comparison to you know, obviously What's also crazy about this? Sorry, this is a stupid question, but how can Japan do genocide against China when it's nowhere near China's population? Wait, what? What do you mean? They were an industrial force that were attacking a country that was largely colonized by other powers and were slaughtering the peasant population. They slaughtered more than 20 million people. South Korea, one day ago, proposes talks to officially end war with North. Okay, see, this is what I mean. This is liberals taking the bait. Yeah, South Korea's president has proposed talks with his northern neighbor to officially end the war between the two that's technically still active. Lee Jae-myung suggested a multi-layer security system to avoid flare-ups along the country's de facto border. I think that I think that this is good and I understand that this is partially because of Trump's fuck ups for sure. But this this decision by Donald Trump is not bad. It's a good thing. Yeah, not just China, Japan killed people in South Korea too. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And then there's the comfort women scandal. I mean, Japan is the Nazi Germany of the region. I don't know how else to describe it. like they did unbelievable amounts of violence in the region. Joseon, not South Korea. Yeah, hell on earth, right? You said Holocaust, not genocide. Yes, what they did was basically another mechanized like they had concentration camps, they had similar experiments that they conducted like Mengele style experiments that UNIS 731 conducted on the Chinese population? The reason why I don't shy away from making that comparison is because I think most people would recognize that comparison to be apt. Yeah, the rape of Nanking is one of the most horrific massacres in history. It's just like not because this China it doesn't get a lot of of coverage especially here in the Western world But it's still a very I mean it's still a very real wound That that Japan chooses not to recognize And it wasn't just China they did it all across Asia, which is why it's so crazy that for most America's perspective Japan is like Kauai country whereas if you look at like some of these other countries they Like China for example, literally rides for the nukes They they love that America dropped the Sun twice on Japan like they straight up will tell you that Those are like two common there's two common positions in China that you know, I I I Considered to be you know, I understand where they're coming from. I just don't agree with it It's like their love for Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon makes sense and also Hiroshima and Nagasaki they ride for it What's up with China Loving Kissinger what do you mean they fucking recognize the PRC and unrecognize the KMT unrecognize the ROC. Huge there's no people's Republic. There's no modern China without that move Anyway, ultimately this is a good thing though and as US is pulling his last aircraft carrier in Asia, Trump focuses on Iran and the Western Hemisphere. Oh yeah, this is the Chinese-Sino-Japanese war, right? Isn't this it? I can't wait to play this game, this game looks fire. I suspect that this is probably going to feature the first element of the center Japanese war like the Japanese occupation. This game will probably come out in multiple series including the best part which I don't think this game is going to feature like the revolution, right? I assume like it's not gonna, but there probably will be one later down the line If Chinese people surrender, then why China still have it? This way! The defiant. Oh, oh, this is not the same game. It's 14 years of flames. You wanted to play. Oh, it's a different one Damn, they're really doing a push remember when I told you as soon as Xi Jinping in the annual State of the nation said he brought up wukong by name Labooboo's by name and Nezha by name. I told you that they were going to do more soft power. They're going to do more like, you know, cultural products that they ship out to the West. I guess they're doing it now. This year they're making a much larger push for, you know, cultural artifacts that you can consume. This is the one I was thinking of. 14 years of flames, yeah, I think this can be a better one. Can you please turn it off, I'm getting flashbacks of the 2nd Sino-Japanese war, okay chatter. I mean look I love this shit it's the same reason why I love Wukong as well because like there's so much untapped novel IP in China there is so much so much like so many stories that the Western world is just like completely oblivious to it's all novel it's all new which is why I think it's awesome it's just like automatically is is is gonna be unlike anything we've ever consumed before. It's really interesting is how they will portray the KMT forces, because it's interesting because like, you know, a lot of these battles were being fought in unison alongside both the KMT and the communist forces, right? So it's interesting how they will, I wonder how they will portray it. Like will there be like, like will they do two different campaigns like the Nationalist campaign and then the communist campaign. Watch the war movies where they have KMT in it. I haven't watched any of the war movies with KMT in it, so I don't know. This ain't World at War, buddy. No, because by the end of the revolution, most of the KMT social media probably won't be too harsh on them. I wonder if they just like, I wonder if they just like glorify or will act like it was all, you know, it's all technically under the PLA umbrella or or something, you know, probably not. I have no idea what the fuck he's saying. Can we get Zora on the translate? Okay fucking calm down. Okay? Calm down. This theme page says it will follow 6 different characters through all 14 years of the war. It's going to be fucking awesome. Are you even trying to learn Mandarin? No, shut up, shut up, shut up. I want to, I want to. The United States literally took surrender Japanese soldiers in China and recruited them to fight against the communists. I don't know if they're going to have kill streaks. I can't wait for you to not play it. I will 100% play this game. Are you insane? I will 100% play Wukong. I'll play this game for sure. In person is out this third party that they hired who was literally, didn't have the same exact handwriting and they, they tried like, thousands of signatures across Massachusetts were then considered moot because they were literal dead people. And those two Republicans and you have, I mean, their accountants instances of Republicans, not just Donald Trump, trying to subvert American elections, and I think that it's one of the most authoritarian things that anybody in this country can do, to subvert the free and fair elections of the United States. I think certainly that we have a problem with two ancient political parties, but I think the real big picture is here, and I'm not saying this to dismiss your anger over what these Republicans did, you're certainly warranted to believe that. I agree, I think they should go to jail for that stuff. The problem is both political parties are playing this this procedural game of trying to steal elections through the pop the procedure instead of convincing people the Republicans are redistricting in all of these different states to get them to say six was procedure I'm talking right now about both parties and yet certainly January 6 was a riot and it was very very bad you what we can we can agree on those things I'm saying that both parties have these procedural efforts to increase their their ability to win elections right now Republicans are I fundamentally disagree with that because Republicans were the ones that voted against a bill to ban gerrymandering federally in the United States. It Republicans were the ones that continuously denied the fact that Joe Biden won the 2020 election for unfair. Democrats have not once and they've been very consistent on this, on protecting American elections. It's in our name. Democrats in 2016 accused Donald Trump and his associates of being Russian assets and trying to steal the election of the past of a foreign adversary, going so far to accuse the president of the United states of treason. There was a multi-year investigation that cost tens of millions of dollars that ended up being nothing. That's election denial. Now I don't think that's as bad as a bunch of people storming the Capitol. That's terrifying and substantially worse, physical violence. But yeah, I think if you look back at the history of this country going back decades, it would be a bit naive to say that the political parties aren't doing everything in their power to steal power from each other. Again, so I mean we can... I don't want to pivot to Mueller, which in fact also... But also, we should get part of it being like a public When Mueller passed away, rest in peace, an American hero, he, Donald Trump, literally said, I'm glad he's dead and he no longer can hurt innocent people. So like, again, another instance of Republicans I would consider thoracic against people like that. When he said that, I said it was disgusting. I mean, it's horrifying. But it doesn't change the fact that Bernie Sanders had the election taken away from them illicitly. I think in 2016, I was fervent for Bernie. He was talking about securing borders because the Koch brothers, industrialists, wanted to bring in cheap labor he was talking about getting better wages for the working class supporting unions and I said this is the only guys in speaking to issues for the past 20 years that actually matter to the right to working class American people and what are the Democrats absolutely and what do the Democrat Party do they use super delegates to make sure he could not win okay so first off I actually I'm a big fan of Bernie myself so I guess it's something to be on there I will say that if you you as a supporter of Donald Trump I find it kind of ironic that you believe in anything closely related to Bernie Sanders I'll give you a few examples nine million people who are Democrats voted for Donald Trump in 2016. Yeah and I also say three million like millions of people I think it was a couple million in West Virginia your state that voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary and then had to switch to Donald Trump I criticized my own party for that and I think that that was wrong my point is not my point is not that the Democratic Party has never ever ever used something or participated I would say in bad faith in elections my point is that we see consistently from Republicans like consistently over and over again. Again, I think that that's like the both parties all back. You literally had Donald Trump try to super the president of the election. You've been voted up by the majority. Good talk to you, man. If you'd like to be the next debater, please head to the chair in three, two, one. Nice to meet you. Thanks for coming. Appreciate it. So, yeah, you're not going to have me defending the Democratic Party. I mean, Let's go Fascism on both sides I do want to bring up two unique things that Trump has done that no one has ever done in the United I'm gonna keep it a buck fifty This is two for two I mean Tim Poole is a fucking idiot and he's wrong and his prompts are wrong Having said all of that. I haven't seen enough like major dunks so far like he it's like kind of It's kind of remarkable how he like is capable of holding his own in a way that I've never seen from other But in a way that's not as bad as like Dave Rubin, right like I Think he just has this way of presenting himself as a liberal and he's kind of like under He kind of goes unnoticed for the most part so people don't know what he's doing what he said Right So, they don't know that he's lying, like they don't know that he's lying, if he lies about the data, he concedes on a bunch of stuff that he does not concede on when he's on his own show. So, it's been, it's hard to pin him down, he's Weasley. He's actually very Weasley. It's kind of crazy. And it's also partially hard to pin him down because most people don't know his takes, right? I don't think any of these guys like know most of his takes because who the fuck cares about Tim Poole, you know? It's history. So two is suing a pollster for a poll he didn't like in the state of Idaho. And I think the biggest issue is the Israel issue. So you have someone like Trump who sold TikTok to Larry Allison, and he also owns CBS News. Oh, yeah. They're not entirely. Right. I think we both agree that's just not good where you give someone a media apparatus, and a social media apparatus like Tik Tok. I these things were me for sure. I you know, I think I think where we're going to agree with like the Republicans is the issue of Israel, particularly that the do they like really am I crazy? Do they 49 pull 49 state landslide? I don't think they do. I think he's just lying. I think he's just straight up like, yeah, none of these fucking guys know anything about me. So I could just feel very comfortable about what I'm saying and doing because like, he took very different. He took it. No, he said 49 states. He did not say 50 states. Do not lie about Tim Pools position. He said 49 states. He did not say 50. I forget which state he argued would not go to Trump. Is he grifting to the left? No, he's just a weasel. Like he knows that people don't know his positions at all. So he just gets to present himself as like a moderate. I assume, and I guess maybe Mason could, maybe, maybe Mason could speak on this. Like, did they, did they present this as like, you're debating Tim Pool or they say you're going to debate a moderate Republican or just like a political moderate? Because I don't know if they reveal who you're going to debate ahead of time right so like if they do I've never done one of these but hmm if they tell you ahead of time or if they told you like it was you know that Tim Poole was he was gonna be or they were gonna debate a political moderate maybe that's the reason why people didn't know if we're talking about authoritarianism this is why I say like don't make me defend Republicans like there's some things I will but but the Democratic Party Republican Party I I feel like as an establishment, largely align with each other and then there are these like lesser issues that divide. And I think when you look at TikTok, I'll tell you this, the TikTok was sold explicitly because of Israel. So the story is this, initially Republicans were very mad about TikTok because it seemed to promote progressive content, progressive ideology, Republicans had been banned, people supported Trump had been banned. So the Republicans come out and say, we got to ban TikTok, we can't do this. Democrats said no, but then something changed. After October 7th, we saw the rise of kind of critical of Israel in support of a Palestine. All of a sudden the Democrats are like, you know what? Now we agree with Republicans and we've got a ban TikTok. And then Trump comes out and says, no, no, we're not going to ban it, which he does not have the authority to do. The bill was passed. It was signed by the president. When Trump came in office, he was supposed to initiate that ban. But instead, what did he do? He sold it to a supporter of his to change the str- What do you talk about? That was literally the purpose of the democratic force transfer as well. The Democrats were not going to like de facto ban TikTok, they were just trying to sell it to someone like the Ellicens. Yeah, I agree. And you know, you have him sanctioned the ICC, the prosecutors. I mean, this is the fascism we're talking about. Again, not the best, not the best point to make. It's not like Brandon was favorable to the ICC. They did embrace authoritarianism a little bit there in a very Trumpian manner. And I like they didn't. I guess the thing that Brandon did, he didn't like unwind the sanctions. Did he unwind the sanctions? I don't think he did, right? I think they just continued it for the most part. Or was there talk about the ICC being good because the Vladimir Putin was being prosecuted, so. So when you have, you know, Russia and China that don't want to participate in the Western system, this is why. Then you have France, you know, that's trying to get away from the tech companies because our own politicians in those, that legislation, they put that they were, that any country that has these databases will be forced give the data to them. I think I think if it is not a singular issue of Donald Trump, like clearly the Democratic Party joined in the cheering on of the banning of TikTok because of his content. And so I think that just shows that we've got an authoritarian problem in this, you know, elite circle of whatever the military industrial complex or big banks and all of these, you know, wealthy groups, they're interested in similar things. No, yeah, he's trying to present himself sincerely as a moderate to like a new audience or something, is that what's going on? For me, I never even thought about this as him being a moderate at all because he's just not and he's just fucking lying and I thought that was almost like a joke, but maybe that's why this prompt is the Democratic Party is embracing authoritarianism and then he's like also claiming that, you know, he don't make me defend the Republicans is like, what do you mean you love defending the You're going to pause here, you've been voted out by the majority, can we turn to the chair? Well, we got a little bit, nice meeting you. If you'd like to be the next debater, please get to the chair in three, two, one. Nice to meet you. I'm not a fan of either party, to be honest. Let's go, let's go. Same boat as you on that one. Yeah. The left embracing authoritarianism. Right now, they don't have the House, they don't have the Senate, they don't have the White House, They don't have the White House, they don't have a majority in the Supreme Court. If these guys are authoritarian, they're the crappiest authoritarians I've ever seen. They got to go back to authoritarian school and learn how to be authoritarians. Well, or how to win, right? Losing, you can still be an authoritarian, like Nazis lose power, but they're still Nazis. Well, they're losing. They're losing at all levels. They're losing everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, the Republicans crushed them. He looks Turkish, but he sounds a little bit Australian. I wonder if he's a Turkish-Australian. No, he's not Turkish. I wonder if he's just like a Aussie that lives in America for like the last couple of decades and he like lost his accent a little bit. There's been the authoritarian though. Well, no, I mean, you could be an authoritarian and lose, right? Okay, so there's three actual elements that we need. Actually he could be Turkish. Oh my God. Turkey, they don't know that by on the turkish more of you need to talk about the four terrorist. One is dismantling institutions. You guys can't, you guys can't fucking hear the Aussie accent. I can't believe it. He straight up has like an Aussie accent, but it's it's almost completely gone. By on the edge of the water, I'm going to clean it by on. Yeah, cut them. Me and your opponent and suspending election. So those are very specific claims to some authoritarians. I haven't seen those elements present within the left. But Donald Trump was arrested several times. With exception. Yeah, he could be Kiwi too, sorry. With exception of one, that was the eliminating opposition. I did see it. But it was when they arrested Donald Trump several times and then tried to get a constitution. They filed a suit to the Supreme Court to get Trump banned from being able to run. I don't. Dog, okay. You can't say it's authoritarian if the president does crimes and then is prosecuted for it. Okay. Chat. Tell him I'm at a Broadway show in New York, he's bought, he's insta-boss, he's pith or hot then fucking pith. Remember that, but I do remember that. You don't remember that. He's the guy at a rally going the fortune the minute question. Lock her up. Lock her up. Who is that person again? I forget. All right. political opponents or deployed the national no Kiwi nor Aussie I mean dude come on come on God to beat down our protesters deploy the terrorized families and terrorized communities or launched a safe act to try and just put voter suppression tactics in place so we could steal an election imprison protesters for 10 years from watching down the streets I think I think he's not he's Australian He has that you lost have ever get no, he's Australian man Someone in the someone He could literally be a Aussie Turk straight up I think he's a uber what gives I Clocked his shit. What's his name someone said they have his Instagram If you'd like a soapbox we can set one up for you But if you want to have a conversation go sit right here Go for I think the position is indefensible, but I love to hear you take go for what you're allowed to not like Trump was a lot of bad things. We were talking about the Democratic Party, the things they've done. And you've, I think, and I'm not saying this specifically, but I think there's many things that you're ignorant of the Democratic Party. Oh, he's laughing. It was must suity. He's not, he's not Turkish. He's Australian. He's from Perth. I was right. Suck my dick. And he's not. Can't be Turks ban from Australia since Gallipoli. OK, you're wrong about that. He is, yeah, maybe, is Masoudi Lebanese or is it Iranian? No. He could be, he could be Lebanese, but that tie is so Iranian. Let's see what last name is. Masoudi. Last name. Arabic origin. Middle East and Iran. Okay, so it could be North Africa, Middle East or Iran. He is Iranian, Masoud is a famous last name in both Iran and Afghanistan. Yeah, he's probably Iranian. But that tie, that tie looks so Iranian. I'm sorry. I guess not. That tie is not Lebanese coated. Lebanese people are too gay to ever wear a a tie like that. Okay. It's so boring. We're doing race science party has done. You talk about suppression of their political opponent. Well, yet they sued so that Trump could not run for office. They they tried to claim us an insurrectionist who's ineligible. He was arrested several times. They arrested his lawyers. Now, by all means, every authoritarian makes the argument they're justified in their use of authoritarian tactics to remove their political opponents. That doesn't change the idea or I should say the philosophy behind what they are doing. So if you want to accuse Jenna Ellis, for instance, of doing something wrong because she drafted a letter arguing on Trump's behalf, that's authoritarianism. By all means, you can say she was wrong to do it, she's a criminal, but we are seeing when you start pulling at your people's voices. I'm bored. I'm bored. Okay. Yes. Claim. Or the Civil War. If you'd like to be the first debater, please head to the chair in 3, 2, 1. Come on, Mason. Welcome back. A peak of civil unrest in this country and in all honesty, I'm going to blame people like you. This entire time we've been trying to blur the line between what separates you and a person like me and everybody in this circle. The truth is you don't agree. Like, here's the problem. It's not like he's winning the debate. It's just he's not losing it. Does that make sense? And that's why it's not as like fun. He doesn't win the debate, but he also doesn't like aggressively lose it either, unless you're already knowledgeable about the issues that he's trying to present or knowledgeable about his background. You're like, I don't know what my takeaway would look like. If I was just watching this from afar, I want to see the Mason part. So here's the thing. I don't know what the average uninitiated person's takeaway would be with Tim Poole. Like I don't know if he would believe that he's a moderate or something. You just give the night is the chair in three two one Welcome back and good to see you again great to see you again. Yeah first time you talked about this was in 2019 So it's been quite a while before that actually for civil war. I've never called for civil war or not calling for I'm sorry Said that we're all important region of civil war and what was the citation I had for when I said that I love you It was the Atlantic and it was a journalist who interviewed several national security experts who said that there is a range of opinions in the national security space that the US is trending towards a civil war, notably that when you when you cite people like Stephen Marsh, journalist, as well as Barbara F. Walter, former CIA, the US academics described the period period that we're in as civil strife, meaning there's a there's a criteria of death that has occurred for political reasons over the past year or years for which the next phase would be civil war. However, tracking, well make my point, tracking towards it, I've not said that it will happen, although there have been many people who have said that we are in a cold civil war or some kind of cultural civil war. I always, always caveat because I don't actually have a strong prediction. That acts, first of all, you do have strong prediction. If you've been saying this since 2019, there's 42, people can look this up. There's 42 of your titles that have the word civil war in it. Correct. Big fonts on the front. I sure do. So why is that? It's sensationalist. the reason why you say it because it's very profitable for your business. But there's a 1,600 episodes of just IRL. There comes a point where people stop taking your prediction seriously. Are you going to make an argument or are you mad at me? I'm not mad at you. Okay, then let's make an argument whether or not we are tracking. No, no, no, no, no, no. If you're making an argument, you don't like my thumbnails or you don't, you should say my name over and over again. I'm saying that you say bullshit in order to get money. But what I really think is the predictions. Let me ask you a question. I will agree with you that there's increased polarization. I would attribute a lot of that to people being specifically online. Let me ask, there's a lot of less interaction with people that are in different camps. Let me ask you a question. You're going to sit here and tell me that we're way more polarized than Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr who like shot each other with their disagreements. Why was Aaron Daniels? You're going to tell me that Andrew Jackson who was the sitting president. Do you want to have a conversation or is it going to be Andrew? Why was Aaron Daniels and shot the chest twice? Sorry? Why was Aaron Daniels and shot the chest twice? I'm not disagreeing that political violence is taking place in 2018. Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr, but I'm gonna ask you a question about an assassination. You've got the point You defer where you can say that let me ask you a question for every year and it doesn't happen Yet, let me ask you or if it does happen. You say see I've had it all I'm asking you the same thing as like the question The rapture is coming every year He hit the soapbox thing twice by the way, I didn't even realize he hit this soapbox thing earlier in the debate as well Wow cool metaphor cool metaphor Timothy pool here Civil War is happening next year Civil War is happening next year. It's coming. Make sure you subscribe to Twincast. Continue to watch my video please. Follow us on YouTube. Follow us on Instagram. It's easy to do what you do bro. She did not like that at all damn mason you pulled out the beanie on the beanie boy you busted out the beanie. Nobody's actually had a debate yet are we gonna actually talk about whether it will or will not happen I mean sounds like it's gonna. All right, if you'd like to be the next debater, please head to the chair in three, two, one. Welcome. Nice to meet you. Thanks, nice to meet you. I think we are being constantly fueled by the people that are already in charge, that are up on top, that are already wealthy, and that already have power over the entire government. Donald Trump has eight billionaires in his administration, including himself. You see his son's profiting, see as friends profiting, you see everyone in close ties with them profiting. They're not going to give up this power. I don't think we're on the verge of a civil war. I think we're due for a revolution. And I hope that's peaceful. I hope that's not violent. I hope we change. This is fantastic. No, no, I appreciate this. Can I ask you some questions? Yeah. Do you believe that Donald... I'm not trying to accuse you of believing this, but do you think that Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes, I do. Do you think that there are Nazis in his administration? In his administration? Yeah. Do you think that they, I mean, how do you feel about them using the military to go after undocumented migrants in this country? I think it is an unnecessary use of force. Like the argument is so crazy. Your check cooks my life, I better stop it. The argument is so crazy because like these are prompts that make no sense. But to us, they make no sense because like Tim Poole has constantly claimed that America is on the verge of a civil war. like none of these have anything to do with his defense of Donald Trump. So I think he tried to expertly pull a fast one on the Jubilee guys and tell the Jubilee guys that he's a moderate or something and the Jubilee guys didn't do their due diligence or they're just content brained. So they just let him get away with these prompts like it doesn't like this is not a this is not really a debate. Like the first one was a little bit more of a debate because the first claim was, you know, the mainstream left commits more violence than the mainstream right. Like it's bullshit and he's trying to do a semantics argument. But even the second claim was that the Democratic Party's embraced authoritarianism. He literally is not saying the Republicans haven't. He's just saying that the Democrats have, right? Skip to Charlie. I don't know which one is Charlie. Oh, this is Charlie. Oh, this sniz. the the the person who debated the eulich sniz guy okay let's see let's see how she does okay so the whole thing about civil I shouldn't refer to her as sniz but you know what I mean I didn't I didn't mean it like that enemy Charlie on to it. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? It's such a it's such a pivotal moment. It's such a that is not how this person should be remembered. They're great. Okay. They're They're great. They're great. They're just... Oh, no. Oh, I condemn myself. I condemn myself. Oh, Jesus. She gonna start calling you 9-11? I'd be fair. valid there Is that I do think that you need some sort of what the fuck sniz means I hope someone reply to me maybe okay So this is enemy Charlie They're a twitch streamer and they do debates and one of the most viral moments of the guy Andrew Wilson Who we watch get fucking destroyed by canis owns yesterday one of the most viral moments is that guy debating enemy Charlie and And getting so flustered when Charlie turns around and says like you talk a big game about being you know The living this like trad lifestyle, but you know your wife has like seven baby your wife has like You know seven previous relationships and like Has children with numerous people and then he gets so flustered Charlie answered your question. Contestants didn't know who would be debating until we showed up. So imagine everyone shocked when Tim Poole is the moderate. The show was also pitched as one moderate versus 20 progressives in that current. Okay, yeah. That's what I was suspecting as well. The idea that these people seemed like kind of not ready for Tim Poole at all. Anyway, where's the clip here? I'll just show you the clip. So Andrew, can I sell you on my worldview? Yes. Your wife has three baby daddies and has been married twice before. And you? Under the hood. Yeah, okay, this is like memeified, but he turns around and goes, hell, you look sniz. And it's a incredibly viral moment because he gets so flustered, he gets so angry. He gets so aggressively called out here, so aggressively clocked that his retort in that moment is, well, you look sniz. That's why I called her the snizler. Leadership, you know, that is being financially disenfranchised to incentivize a civil war. And we don't really have any strong progressive leaders in office currently that are being meaningfully financially disenfranchised the way slavers were. So I think that... But you don't. That's the challenge. I think... Yes, that is absolutely... Yes, that is the... If you take a look at Civil War without history, we can use the Syrian Civil War as an example. started with a dozen or so disparate factions, largely of locals and various ideologies that how did Mason know to pull up the bee then? That's actually a good question. That's why I wanted to ask Mason if he knew ahead of time or not. You know what I mean? Ultimately coalesced around one, one group, either the Free Syrian army, but then ultimately got taken over. Civil wars can be fomented through small factions that bubble up. Certainly, but I think that you are vastly overestimating the kind of militant capacity of the American left. Like we truly do not have like a far left in the U.S. that would be willing to take up arms. It is so, so, so small. Furthermore, I do think that technology-wise, it's not an even battle anymore. Like the military, the U.S. military, which is largely conservative and currently, you know, Trump is in charge of them. The technology that they have to track, surveil, to remotely kill people would be absurd. I mean, I guess we could do some sort of guerrilla warfare, but this is American territory. It wouldn't go down like Vietnam, you know? Like, we know where we are, we know where we're going. It just- This is a fantastic point, by the way, and this gets into what's known as the Generations of Warfare. Okay. So the earliest generation of warfare, obviously, got punched in a guy. As we got into the 1700s, Well, maybe even before then, that's an awesome, that's an awesome sound by obviously everybody knows the earliest generation of warfare is just a guy punching a guy, obviously, brilliant. Oh man, he's so awesome. Yeah, this video sucks. I'm sorry. What is this? What? What the hell are you looking at, Farley? What are you looking at, huh? He's like, nah. Cute. I love that they get along. Two kids with autism just having a good time. Just two, two, two gay kids with autism, partly for Lido don't want the smoke. He just, it's funny cause he just like sits there and he stares at me. Hello, you're watching outsiders with your hosts Rita, Rita Panahee, show Panahee, Rowan. Oh my God. Lefties lazing it. Yeah. being cooked for interviewing me by the way before, I guess we're supposed to be gaming right now. I don't know what happened. I don't know where we're at on the gaming front. Oh wait. Oh wait. No one is on the call yet. Okay. Um, but, uh, ABC start doubles down over interview with controversial left wing influencer over anti-Israel figure. His son Piker hates capitalists. America ABC presenter plan. America co-host John Barron has defended his decision to interview controversial US political commentator, some Piker pushing back his criticism of the public broadcast was giving a platform to a divisive figure. The backlash came after Baron announced on X that planet America will return on Monday night with Piker as a guest planet America is back on Monday, not Baron route. Our guests will be the influential and controversial Coleman Titus, some Piker on the rows of Democratic Socialists and populace left what it's like at the eye of the political storm Baron respond to criticism of the booking arguing the Puget become a significant figure in American policy in the 2026 election campaign Lock it or not. He's a central figure in the 2026 you know and it's like selection and its Republicans who are replying his most offensive comments in a taxi ads against Democrats there and posted he's become a central figure in this of the year's election it makes sense to hear from him. If you watch, I'll be interested to know if it confirms your concerns or overcomes them. Either way, we'll choose, we choose guests of all stripes based on interest and relevance. Plyker has emerged as the influential voice of the U.S. left. And then, yeah, he basically, he basically turned around and rejected the charge. He said, with respect, there's a silly claim. We do not broadcast hate speech and we're conducting an interview with someone of significant news values called journals. I'm not platforming. Responding to another critic who argued it was unwise to boost people who promote hatred. Agree 100% Tim interviewing significant political figures and boosting them as journalism. Piker is long been a lightning rod in US political debate. More recently, Piker's John criticism for his commentary on the Israel Gaza conflict, opponents have accused him of using inflammatory rhetoric about Israel. Critics accused Piker of humanizing or platforming. Remember the Iran backed Houthi movement while supporters argued the interview was journalistic and aimed at understanding a group of influencing the events in the red sea. Piker's no stranger to scrutiny from ABC itself. In November last year, he was interviewed by seven 30 hosts, Sarah Ferguson, fall in the fatal shooting at US conservative activist Charlie Kirk. The appearance prompted 64 complaints of the ABC ombudsman. Many objectives of the decision to feature, future piker arguing he was not sufficiently challenged. However, the ombudsman found the interview did not breach ABC editorial standards, noting Ferguson repeatedly pressed piker on his own inflammatory rhetoric, including past comments in which he joked about Latinos being killed. The ruling found Ferguson had appropriately challenged the streamer and that the program had met the broadcasters editorial obligations. It's time to game folks. Hello. Hello. Wait, one second, chat. Hey guys, can you hear me? Okay Oh, I can't hear that What the fuck Oh, you're the first. Is that song going right from here to the Bachelorette? Yeah, the song's coming to the Bachelorette tonight. Wait, wait. Oh, my God. Wait, what the first? Wait, you're telling me it was tonight? You're not coming, Hassan? That's crazy. That's crazy. Don't even joke like this. That is the worst braids made I've ever like. Oh, my God. No, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. You've been braids made. Stop. You guys are joking. Nola Khan. It's so embarrassing. I'm so, I'm traumatized. That's so embarrassing. Wait, did you shit your pants with Nola Khan? Nola, she's doing a remix of a song called The Poop Girl Remix. Poop Girl, that's so embarrassing. That's so embarrassing. Okay, well, you guys have fun without me? Do we get a little bit more? Yeah, yeah. You gonna see cutie? Oh yeah. What do you guys want? What do you want? Well, a little tip around, a little tip around, a little tip around. So I say if I piled up and something bad I can cancel it. Oh, apparently a lot of times I'm going to stop. That's only for me. That's my constant. Oh, OK. All right. All right. OK, all right. Have fun, guys. Wait, he's kidding. He's kidding. I'm going to have fun with this. Bye. Read the fucking group chat ever. Wait, I was. the fact that I was screaming. Wow. Wow. I wasn't going to gaming a week ago. I mean, loser. What the fuck? OK. Good bye. OK. Bye. Bye. When is everybody going to? When is everybody going to acknowledge that Austin show is the most organized on the Ferian podcast? Mine is and CUNY. I think maybe it's a close first and second. Wait, what was the question? What would you ask? I think Austin show is the most organized on the Ferian. Austin, you never give people a second to answer. You spit that out and then because no one entered in a millisecond. Excuse you. Hassan said, what did you say? So I said it again. That's what I did. He said, what did you say because he was so flabbergasted? I was flabbergasted. Austin, you are not the most organized. You're just the most unemployed. I'm the most unemployed? Excuse you. Excuse you. I'm very employed. That's why I'm here. Yeah, by the, by this, this is the only thing that you're employed by. Oh God, you know what? So it's easy for you easy for you. Just a creative guy the other day. Yeah, I appreciate you being on top of everything, but you know what? Thank you, Will. You're the only one that appreciates me these days. People are joking in my chatting. Also, you know, we're trying to month. Oh, where's the street? Where's the stream together? Click the link in the group chat. Read the group chat ever challenge. OK, sorry. I Read the group chat. Okay, you know what Christian? I've been streaming since a long time ago. Okay, then act like it Okay. Yeah, but a lot of things have changed. All right today. We didn't even have no stream together back in my day, okay? Back in my day, we just had to both stream at the same time. We wanted to come back in four. We would yell from afar with the hopes that they'll hear it. Yeah. Christian, I keep asking Christian for things, and I keep forgetting he's streaming too. Christian, I don't know if you ever lost anything. He's doing things called LAN parties. You know what that is? I think I asked me for a diet soda literally five times since he started the screen like he didn't know and it still won't appear in my hand I don't know what's going on when you used to stream back in the day Did you not have to get up from stream to get drinks? Is this a no? Something that's new and I usually have a lot more people on my stream so I could get up and they would be talking but Yeah, you're on stream with like six people. Oh, you're right. Fuck you guys entertain entertain everybody You're my own and take a free ride He's doing Well, well who was introduced what we're doing. Yeah, I don't know what game we're playing what game are we playing We're playing mecha chameleon. That was your idea. Oh, yeah, I haven't ever played it Who's burping who is burping I was Austin? No, it wasn't me. It was not me. It was just crazy. The hot mic is absolutely on purpose. Who's Austin? All right. What do you think it is, a husband? You know what my purse sound like? I know yours. I know Will's. I can tell the difference. That's crazy. Can we share chat today? I'm sick and tired of being separated. I mean, I'm fine. I want to share. Yeah, I don't care. I can handle your chat of wokes. I don't think you can They I saw they've been harassing me I've only been streaming for 42 minutes and they're already harassing me. All right, let me let me see How do I call how do we combine chats here? I try to click start sharing chat. Oh share Oh shit, there we go Okay, who what chat is telling your child is now trying to euthanize me. What is that? I I don't know Share chat doesn't work for Mecca. No. Oh No, we should We we had a shared high-train that was fun All right. Okay. Well, ladies and gentlemen welcome to the All right, ladies and gentlemen welcome to the fear and the game night the second one in weeks. Tonight, we are going to be playing mechchameleon, but we are also here to remind you that this is the last and final chance that you have. If you are in San Francisco, Seattle, Portland or Los Angeles, this could be your last chance because there's not many tickets left in either of these cities or any of these cities to buy a ticket and come see us on tour, tour.fairand.com. I think a week from today we will literally be in Portland, Oregon. We will be backstage at Portland, Oregon. And I'm, I couldn't be more excited to be in my hometown. I tell you what, it's going to be very exciting. I just can't wait. I think I'm going to get a group sing along at every city for Kwan-Do Kwan-Do. Am I the only one that, that That is, Jesus Christ. There is something special for today, Austin. Should I say what it is? Yes, please. Yes. So if we sell 20 tickets today, Austin has said he is going to get the Nancy Mays Tattoos done on his body. Yes. Oh, right. Wait, wait, wait, I don't know if I... Wait, which, wait, all of them? all of them. Wait, but I didn't, I don't even, I didn't even, I didn't even see that. I was talking about, I was talking about, I was talking to everybody earlier and they were talking about all sorts of current events and things that were happening and it, it sort of, it hit me. I've just been on gay porn Twitter. So I don't want any news at all. Stop stop stop Following anything except for the fact that I don't have a diet soda right now Why are you so harsh I can't follow what's going on It's a quorum Christian like every time I mention this everybody goes it's like act like no I'm the only one on planet earth that jerks off. You know what I mean? No, but no one on planet earth This is much of a fucking gooner as readily as open about being a goddamn gooner as you and then you turn This is coming from you king like no like let's be realistic here. We all know about your faptop. It's a huge part of your Massurbation habits on my comedy podcast called fear and which is going on tour tour dot fear and calm Okay, the plug. Yes, we're gonna be in Portland, Los Angeles Seattle And also San Francisco. Okay. Oh yeah. But, but having said that, having said that, I, I don't like constantly, well, I've had an article written about my porn consumption habits, but I don't constantly talk about it. It was over the course of like the last 10 years of my professional media career that they were able to compile an entire article about my gooning habit. Don't talk about it that much. Go, roll back the tapes and count how many times I've talked about it. Seriously, there's not that many streams to go back in, right? Oh, so your argument is, so your argument is you just don't stream that much. So therefore, I don't. Well, that means the density of you talking about gay porn is way higher. I thought it was a good, funny bit. All right, I'm the funny guy. What do you think about that? I thought it was a good bit. I thought it was a good bit. Listen, you're the funny guy. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. I'm working on it. All right, I'm working on it. All right, so we're playing Mekka Chameleon. Yeah. All right. Let me turn it on for the first time ever. I've never played it. I nominated Hawthorne Twitch to host the server. Yeah. So what is Mekka Chameleon? Oh, you're going to find out. That's crazy. Oh, thank you. Bless you. You try and blend into a map. It's hide-and-seek. Oh. It's hide-and-seek, Crop Hunt. But you can use your art skills to hide better. Okay. Well, that'll be fun known for his for his for his art. Really. He's an amazing painter. Oh, come on, Christian. That's you and you're talking about decorum. You want to talk about decorum? I what I'm talking about your ability. That's foul is what it is. You're the one making it sexual. I'm talking about your painting. Christian was complimenting you. No, literally, I was being nice. Now I'm He's getting painting trained. No, I've not been doing any of that. God damn, I look like shit. Fuck. Is this what being in your 30s is like? Good God. OK, how do we? I don't know how to. Don't worry. Haas is going to send the server info in our little chat. And then you keep this part off stream, of course. But we'll join the server. And then also, Haas, will you throw up that fear and banner again that we have. Thanks. What the hell is happening? We're playing, we're playing making chameleon chat. We're playing making chameleon. Austin is going to, here's what's going to happen. I'm not going to make it to me. Me. It's like, it's like a survival game where you like paint yourself to hide yourself. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You paint yourself to hide and then, and then people try to find you. Right. That's hide and seek. Yeah. That's, that's basically. Okay. And then. Okay, and then here's what's gonna happen next though Austin is going to accidentally leak the introduction code and Join the server It could be Austin is one of the other. What do you mean? Why did you get your gay people in the call? I'm way more technologic literate than you and Austin combined like okay regardless regardless is like prop hunt exactly It's prop hunt and then will's gonna yell at them. He's gonna go God damn it Austin and then we're gonna do it again and then Austin's not gonna leak it this time No, I appreciate the reminder you should have muted your stream and said that because I would have totally leaked it again But now I know not to leak it. Yeah, good. Okay, great great Well, maybe that's why I did it Come my come my come a chameleon Okay, oh, I oh did you put the server in the let me see. Oh, there it is. Okay. I got I got I got it. Oh my god. Jennifer cool, okay I'm here Okay, hold on Did you guys download mods? No mods for you if you want to play? Yeah, but it's really the model really easy to download it's not like a It's built into the game mechanics. All right find a private server. Oh My god, it's very complicated. Okay No, oh, I got it I got it. I got it. Okay Come on come on come on come on come on come here I'm searching oh, I think I'm in it. I think I'm in it. I can't show my screen though yet Let me not do that. Okay. It says waiting Yeah, I want to allow public and private networks to access this app allow Yes Let me hack you. Who's jennifer coolidge? Why am I so slow? Okay, I can show right I can show now once we're here Okay, help you with your slowness. That's it. So once you're in you can show once you're in you can show Uh, do I need to yeah, can I get in or? All right. Oh my God, I'm running with my hands up in the air. I'm still out of the game. I'm not in yet. Oh, it's downloading. Now's a good time. Oh, you're playing. I thought I was on. She practiced. How did he get in? How did he get in before me? Wait, what the fuck? I can do dupes. Wait here. We did it for you. This is for you. This is for you. You should also practice painting. Press F. Let me find the new post. Oh, sick. No, no, no. No, no. Now you can have my hot dog, I see. Doc. You want my dog, I see you will. What is that? It's the self-supposed. There's a self-supposed. Wait, let me get that. I know you want to get this, but. Hold on, hold on. I'm trying to. Anyone was wondering it's back in the head. It's not actually dick to face. It's dick to back of your head. But it's close enough. Well that's a total waste! Wait, this is going to be so hard to do. Holy shit. Oh I like this. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my God, this game is so tough. This is such a tough game to play. Holy shit. What is this creature? Press spacebar guys. Austin is actually a boomer. Austin take your time you didn't even want to see what I'm doing to your boyfriend. Come on back. Oh All of the controls are written on a screen. It's me. It's you. It's me. Okay. Wait, wait. Lie down. Lie down. Let me put on it. Let me put on it. Okay, hold on. Wait, wait, yeah, do it. Oh, yeah. What are you doing? Oh, my God. Caroline, come here. Let's do that. Caroline, let's do that. Can you just make me jealous? I don't think you can one of them are limber enough to do this. Okay. This will really make them jealous. Oh, hold on. I don't know what I'm doing. Look at how not limber they are. Look at how vanilla their sex is. Get out of here, Austin. What? Oh, wait, why is this doing so sorry, Chad? I didn't mean to get under you. Me, because I didn't want to talk. Austin and Boomer, and just being a Boomer, I can't. They can't do anything. Look at how vanilla their sex is. Ah, let's go. Let's launch. Here, bounce up on it, Karen. Watch this period run on. You guys are going to tear something. There could only be one star here. What does taunt do? Um, it whistles. So like throughout the when you're, stop that. Oh my god. Stop whistling. You're getting sex positions are heard of in a thousand years. Yeah, we were on the top of the Kamasutra. And again, okay, I don't generally will. I don't know how to turn my character up right. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. All right, ready to go. Uh, how do I turn right? How do you turn your character? Oh, is everybody. OK, so go. Why is Christian fucking will? What is going on? Does everybody feel like they have a grasp of the controls? No, but I think we should just ball. Like we should just fucking. We should I get it and it wait Caroline come here like this Oh, buddy. Oh my God. Oh my God. That's the most mean mixing body. You're going to get off the button unless you want to be hunter. It's on your body. You hunter, bro. That's OK. Oh, too late. Oh, I'm not. I'm the hunter. What the fuck? OK, here we go. Oh, I want with the fat body type. I'm a fat boy. So I got a height. How long do I have? Hey, did you say height? You have a hundred. Sorry, it's to me. My stream setup is very overstimulating. It's very difficult to focus. No worries. How many streams do you have? Can you open doors and stuff or no? No. Nope. I'm going to find a spot. Hey, do we have to talk? No, there's a force talk You get points when people look at you, but don't like I have to paint myself. I'm looking for a spot to hide Why do this? Wait, how do I get rid of my dupes? I didn't mean to do X X Yes, no fuck Fuck Oh, this is a fun game. I don't know why I've never played this Are we supposed to be muted no, no, it's fine. It's just probably starts with playing games. Oh This is great All right. I don't think anybody could see me perfect Wait, do we have to fucking Do we have to do this immediately like oh fuck? Yeah, you got 20 seconds to hide. I don't think anybody will find me. I mean, I'm perfectly blended with this... Not gonna say where, but... Oh, I'm visible? No, I'm not. Fuck! Can't see me. I fucked up! Welcome to Mecca, Chameleon. I'm a coming Who the fuck Oh, what I got shot. Are you fucking serious? Austin literally didn't move from spawn Guess you are. Oh wait. I get to hunt people now. This is better. I like there's more fun now. All right, cool Oh, it's just awesome. Of course. Why don't you tell me this is such a fun game? I literally don't just shut the fuck up and look please This is what you're up to like three in the morning playing with all your friends online I don't know who the hell you're playing with but my gay friends. Yeah. Yeah friends Austin I didn't stutter Will Yes, I prevent yourself from just aging rapidly like in real life. Oh Oh, um, like how do you say I go out and do stuff? I do that. I go out and do stuff. Awesome. Went out last night, actually. I went out last night without Christian. Wow. Wow. Yeah, I dreamed and said, I just went out. We went out for a drink and then I went out for more drinks. I don't know what else. What else do you do? Damn, what the fuck? None of you have points. I knew it was a sod, just a mess. Dude I couldn't even fucking fix the camera! Oh. This sucks. I couldn't even paint myself. Oh you have limited shotgun shells now? Uh, they regenerate. They regen once you shoot someone. Uh, alright. Okay, this is actually pretty intense. I like how we can all talk at the same time. This is awesome. Who are we still looking for? Well, you're better than that. It was the first time it was a warm-up round. I think we're, wait, they found Will? Yeah. Oh, Kerala, you got some points, girl. I went for a hard one. I went crazy with it. I didn't give myself much time. Okay. I feel like we had... Is 100 seconds usually how it is? I put 120, which is twice the standard amount. Oh. Yeah Can we heard this up cuz I've been found yet. I'm trying to win. Okay. Oh Fuck I I don't even have headphones so I can't even tell where you're at We you can't hear the game. Oh Audio I can barely hear it. I don't have spatial audio. Oh, hey, Sam. What's going on? What's happening? Wait? Yeah, that's me. Oh, I know Caroline's in here somewhere. I can just tell All the whistle. Okay here. I don't know where she Oh, oh, oh, somebody's here. Hello. We're near you. I think so. Yeah. I heard a whistle, so they're in here somewhere. So I don't know why. Keep an eye on that yellow timer. And when that gets closer to zero, just shut the fuck up so you can hear the whistles. You know what I mean? Okay. It had been a little nicer about it. I said, please. You can't be like smaller, right? You have to be the same size, right? No, no, no. No, maybe. Hiders are smaller than you hunters. Maybe. Okay, you guys. I'm going to put it on my phone. I'm going to put it on my phone. I'm going to put it on my phone. Wait, okay. Someone is looking at Caroline. She has a thousand points. Yeah, you guys have been looking at her a lot. It's probably me. I'm probably looking right at her. Caroline, hello. Hi. Okay, that's not helping me. Can you tell me where you are? That would be very helpful. No, you're not you're not in the wall I found her where was she she was right here. She was one of the little babies here Guys, we guys guys we need the last whistle. We need the last whistle. Wait, who's who's missing? We're looking for Austin, which Austin's with. Okay, wait, everyone quiet, quiet, quiet. Here comes our last whistle. Listen, everyone listen. Sorry, what are we listening for? What? Oh, he's over here. He's over here. He's near Austin and his son. Austin's just randomly shooting. Perfect. Is that about him? Oh, that's a balloon. Oh, Austin might get this. this. What's the. And I survived all the time. Wow. You can't be like tiny, right? Like this can't be it. No, no, you're every same size. Well, you can like make it. Oh, there you go. You ate that. Where was it? Oh, yeah. Where was it? All right. Over your house. Hey, how do I change my body type? Oh my God, you did such a good job. You can't change body type. It's like 800 points. Where are you? Oh, you choose it in the thing before. Well, wait, how do I talk? How? How am I in second place? Because people looked at you. We saw you. So you have to survive the round. OK. OK, there's body type. It'll show up before the screen or before the game. Dude, this is so tough. This is actually unbelievably tough to just mark it up. Some of these levels are nightmare. Do we want more time? No, that's not good. I think that was a warm up round. That was a warm up round. Are we going to do this wherever if you die, you become the hunter. Should we do it? Yeah, there's not enough of us for more than one hunter. So one person could hunt each round. That works. I think that might be better. Yeah, and we can see each other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have such a hard time like painting myself. I don't know if you guys had the same issue when you first started. But I just like the camera is tough. And then I end up like moving from my space when I'm trying to paint myself. Yeah, sounds like a skill issue. I'd spark it up. Let's do it. It's not a shared experience. Is it just me? No, it's OK. Listen, that was your first time playing. It'll get better first time first time on it's fine. I will say you did forget to paint half of yourself. So I just encourage you next time to maybe paint your entire body. No, I know. But my point is I did that because I fucked it up. I couldn't like figure out. Yes. So next time you know, walk in. OK, so I don't know. Can I change my shape? Wait, am I a hunter? You can pose. Standing with a gun. Yes. Yeah. Who's the hunter? I'm the god damn it they meet me the fucking first hunter who's gonna suck you got this is on trust this is a bitch right here oh yeah nobody's gonna even know I'm gonna fucking find you first bitch no you're not yes I am get ready wait give yourself a costume what do you mean I can do that you can paint yourself as a hunter and then you'll come in with a costume and you'll be hunt. Yeah, but it's not, I mean, there's nothing to paint like, just... You paint yourself. Be a superhero or something. It's a ninja turtle, something cool. Oh, fuck. I don't... You wanna be just a... Ah... There you go. This is how I'm hunting. Okay, I wish there was an easier way to like move the camera around. What the hell? Middle mouse. Oh fuck. Oh, oh my god. Play around with the camera setting because it takes a second to get used to it. Is there a control Z? No, there's no one dues. I'm coming Get ready. Fuck. Ah, shit. Former artist. OK, calm down, dude. Was he trying boobs on himself again? Fuck. Ah, shit. Search start. the the shh one second, there's... I mean, how do I get up there? fuck oh my god FUCK This is some of my best work to be honest. So fighters, people who are hiding, if you hit 5, you'll be in spectate mode and you can click through everyone else's hiding spot if you want to look at them. And you can then also hit 4 to go into free camp mode. Yeah. You took some major risks for this one. Crazy. Like, how do I get up there? I'm so annoyed. Oh I mean it's working Because I'm a fucking idiot and I can't see anything Well, I mean you're the one that was talking all that shit in the beginning. I I mean I mean, I was looking, looking at us on you got a key. You got time. I don't. And I did the fucking audio cues mean nothing to me. Oh, right. You know, I'm directional, so I was just trying to stand my whistle. Yeah, I have no idea. I just I legitimately don't know. Oh, you're looking for like little men. I know, but I there's so many different little men looking things all around. That I had is the game, you know If he finds one person I will oh my god, I'm not even the final single person I can't believe he hasn't found me yet. I'm crazy because I found I found Caroline last game pretty easily too Okay, not pretty easily. I racked up quite a few points because you were just staring at me. I just don't I I Generally don't know how I've not been found. I don't know how I have not seen a single fucking I'm just I keep scouring the same fucking area is over and over again. That's my problem Is there it's like the entire game to be fair what there's a lot more than that. What is happening? I Mean there's right here Will's on the move will is on the move He literally can't hear you I think Oh my god, this is so awesome. What? I hear the whistles, but I don't know where you guys are. I need him to find Christian. Why is my guy not walking around? How do I get out of... Why can't I just not walk? Are you in heat mode? I don't think so. Wait, where were you guys? Wait, what the fuck? Wait, wait, how did that... I'm right here. Did you kill yourself? How did you win? Did you turn the shotgun on yourself how did the game Me because I didn't put shotgun shots at infinite infinite Okay, I can never be the hunter again, I can never be the hunter again. That was crazy That was, uh, uh, not great. Well, I didn't even play. I didn't have infinity bullets. I thought I didn't have infinity bullets. I will say when I was Hunter the first time, I didn't find anyone either. So you get, it's okay. It happens. It happens. It's, it's a learning, it's a learning curve to this game, to be fair. Yes. It's random selection unless someone goes on the hunter spot. I hope it's not me again. I'm not going on the hunter spot. oh sugarland is fucking you know what fucking I'm doing hunter I'm doing hunter are we in the game now right yeah yeah okay and you're gonna need a Oh, I'm gonna fucking need it, but I'm gonna have it this time. Now. I know what to look for Yeah, get excited everyone's getting caught. I'm blasting motherfuckers left around. I'm just gonna be doing this I'm gonna be doing 360 no scope I'm sure yeah Yeah, we'll see Wait, how do I fucking move the camera around again? How do I zoom out with the cam up? There it is Okay, now I'm getting better at this painting shit, too. Oh, dude. It's so over It's so fucking Jover after this for all of you But a one if you're scared god, I I really have no skill whatsoever out of a home alive like in life in general You okay, bro, uh, what are you guys spamming one for? They're scared That's them communicating to you that they're scared I Okay Fuck I just have no skill in this game once up why would you what are you doing what are you saying oh shit how do i get out of this how do i get out of the fucking paint mode fuck okay god oh she's every map you got this on you were talking every map is so different oh just lock in if it's like work it's like work come on it doesn't work wait i can't get out of here what uh hit Old space bar when you're up against something to like glide up you can just kind of like climb Things you don't know. What the fuck? Oh He's scooting. He's scooting Austin's on the move. He's going He's on the run Help me Austin get these Fools. Oh, we're in we're in solo hunter mode. Which one? Yeah, you fucked me again. You voted. You said yes. Oh, I thought we were doing. I thought I was recruiting. Well, this is brilliant. You're all brilliant. All of you, all of you are fantastic. Yeah, I don't switch people. I hit five. No, your mouse button, baby. Mouse button. in the five spectators. OK, got to get her. Yeah. Wow. Or you can freak in. Oh, man, I'm not finding anybody. Christian, you could use some work for sure. Fuck off. Fuck off. Oh, I'm not your best work. Oh, I'm looking this off locked back here. Oh, no. No. So maybe we're hot. OK, oh, thank God. Are you kidding? There's no way. Oh, my God. Are you pretending like you can't see me? Pause, I could not see you. Pause, you're brilliant. You are so brilliant. I thought you were there. Are you? You're an artist, aren't you, Hust? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I don't even. I can't. I know. Zane. Pause, you're brilliant. Oh, wow. I think that boy was reading chat. No. Check his eyes. That boy was reading chat. Everybody was saying blind exclamation point. No, I I heard you because it wasn't people are people are people metagaming they might be you can't go all the way up to the clouds right in this map you can you can them did you paint abs on yourself like Drake me oh yeah I did yeah I Did Shit, this is gotta be the worst I've ever seen why are you what fuck off literally watch someone else go on someone else Austin's just mad cuz he got popped first He's gonna he's gonna be found I'm not I'm I promise you I'm not I just mean, like, what is it? What are you doing here? I like this, Jennifer Courage. This is abstract. You like it? Wait, you look good! You look good! It was bold. It was bold. I saw your character design is, why, why do you paint yourself as a little quink? That's a tiny little tummy I've ever seen. I got the dick V's too. And he did the drinks on the house. Yeah, I got the digvies. My son. All right. Those are abs? And the digvies. I don't have them in real life. So I thought to myself, you know, what's on your arms? Yeah, come guys. Oh, my. Oh, where? Bro, I hear it. Whoa. This guy should really put on headphones. Hear the people. Just keep whistling and farming points off of them. Yo, David, if you can hear us, get this man some directional head. No, no, I have him. I just didn't want to put him on. Bro, you need that's the hope you need them for the game. That's true. But fuck it. Bro. It's like, it's over, right? It's almost over. It's over. I think we need to probably, am I the only one who got caught? No, we'll do. Oh, well, that's right. I have no idea where the fuck you're at. Oh, my gosh. Wait, oh my God. Right there. Airlines. That was actually pretty good. That's a really good one. Hosses is incredible. Where's Hosses? I don't even know. It's right at the top of that cake, you know, you know. Oh, yeah. That's the one I was talking about. You know, that's also a chocolate fountain, Austin. Oh, oh, so if you hit five, you can spectate through all of them real quick. I'm a tree. I'm a pretzel. OK, Christian, I, you know, I wasn't familiar with your game. Nobody could find me. OK. I got I got two. So that's good. I doubled up. I went from zero to infinity better. Never hunt again. OK, I'm going to hunt again. Fuck you. We want to do when that's what I think that day. Yeah. And how do we feel about the like hiding time, searching time? Do you think it's I think a little bit more time to hide? Yeah, a little more time to hide. Yeah. More weight. Caroline could have been a little bit more detailed. Are they actually good? Like. Or are they? Or am I just as. Um, your job mode at this game. Yeah, Haas is incredible. This is right in Haas's wheelhouse, right? A little bit. Everything is. Yeah, I was like, you are setting. I've been telling Austin how good of an artist Haas is for so long. And he's like, are you an artist? I like, I just came. I wasn't sure if that was public information. I didn't know. I'm still recovering from the emotional damage of Austin thinking that I was a streamer who was camping under an overpass. I was watching Haas's stream before bed, as I normally do. And Haas was watching a video, and it was like a guy experiencing homelessness. I don't know what the specific premise of the video was, but Austin was like, is that Haas? Does Haas have his webcam on? No. Like a face review? I've met Austin. overpass boy. He's thought this like really like disheveled dude living under an overpass and thought it was me. He immediately goes, is that Haas? Well that is crazy. It was sort of a, it was sort of a, you know knee jerk reaction, right? And I quickly realized it wasn't Haas because I believe you do not live under an overpass, Let's watch the game. Okay. I'm going with the classic body type. The other body types don't seem to work. They do. It's just like on different, like, on some of the modern maps, it's the square body type is a lot better. Most of these are like, the circles are better. Oh, I'm 100. Oh, God. Oh, fuck. I don't know how I'm going to fucking do this. Oh, boy. This one is okay. Is this is it better to be in a crowded area or out in the open? Like what are we thinking? Um, I mean you want to kind of find a balance of like being out in the open but also being hidden Because you want to make sure you see Be true to yourself, you know, yeah That's really the most important part. I think I don't want to hear it. Well, that would be too much. Don't give me shit chat. I don't want to hear it. This is a not an easy map at all. It is an easy map, Fuff. Okay, whatever. Just denying my humanity. Shut the fuck up. Sorry, you don't, yeah you don't like it when I throw the woke right back at your face. Well, I don't have any time to fucking I know I added another 30 seconds. I have to. You kind of have to like paint. Fuck. You just gotta get like the main colors in and work on how do you rotate when you're painting like middle mouse button Thank you. That was tough You do know you can change your brush size, right? Yeah Okay good Color is that and the Oh, Spider-Man, Spider-Man, that's whatever a spider can is, he's wrong, listen, bud, he got the radio active blood, hey, yeah, come, my one hand, is that I have a flaming hole. Spiderman, Spiderman, does whatever a spider can. Is he strong? Can I match it with this? He's in blood, he got a radio as in blood. He got a radio as in blood. I Man Is he strong listen, but he's got that radio He did not miss beat I know I smell someone's ass Where are you hiding in my city? There's someone here. How do you tell which direction it's coming from? With your ears? Well, you know how it's just for that. I'm going to find you. Then what? Then I'm going to blast you. You all ever like take a bite of a sandwich and make your nipples hard? Oh chat chat I'm kind of It's like I'm eating I'm doing good They're mad They're mad They're mad They're mad They're mad They're mad They're mad They're mad I'm the only one who. Caroline the Kobe am I sending me she said everyone else is already probably found right like if I'm here for an hour. I hate this level. This is one of the best ones. This is the first one that I had to be Hunter on. No, you weren't. You started something. Oh, I know when I first played. I am devouring this round. Oh, yeah. Will, I'm going to be honest. Bro, I literally, I was sucking on your nuts, just like, approximately five minutes ago. I mean, I got a bunch of points, too. Talking on his nuts? I feel like someone's over there, but... but Well, they were kind of salty I've been working out Damn Austin, is yours even good? What do you mean is mine even good? Is it out in the open? You're just upset that I outlasted you in the game Caroline He's got a few points. He's got some points. He's got some points. Somebody is in here. Oh, shit. That was good, though. You did you like it? You know what? You got some you got some points. By the men by the men. It's whatever a spider can. Man, he's not. It's on, you might have cooked, bro. I don't think so. Well. Should we all sit together? So we see when the points go up. It's a good strategy. Somebody's over here. Keep whistling. So somebody's over here fuck I'm out. Oh, I'm so Thank you for the point us that's insane Oh my god Okay, okay Christian that's fucking goaded. I mean I I kind of go Well, you were literally on top of me for so long you and Caroline both it was crazy. Oh, I see him. Oh My god Christian that was insane right Wow, I fucking love this game, bro Good Well, Caroline, how's it how's it feel down there in fifth place? This guy's talking that shit. Oh, yeah I'm getting better. I'm getting better. I'm getting better. I'm actually learning, you know, you know what? I give us more time on this mount more paint time. Yeah, let's not chat. You hear that Caroline Kwan is a looser and fit So what is it it's a bro was a flock camera You hear that Caroline Because I think I did a pretty good job, okay No, it's on you did a good job. You did a great job actually I Gave more time for painting. I think I added a minute book. I'm the hunter Oh, baby. You get stacking hunters. What is this one? This map is crazy, dude. What the fuck? Wow. I think my space bar is broken. I can't like actually press on it every single time that's not good that's fine wait this map is bro what the fuck how are you supposed to hide in this map hide in the paintings yeah you about to learn today Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. People do that? Yeah. Yeah. Get good. Damn. So. Bro's asking, how do I hide? Like, I don't know. I'll figure it out. Like, that's the whole point of the game. Yeah. Oh. But I'm going to find you, and it's OK. Okay, maybe this is gonna work. Shut the fuck up, Chad, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up, Chad is being so fucking annoying. any advice? Tell me what to do. Damn it. There's nothing boxy around here. I'm so fucked. Shut up. Dude, I haven't even found a spot yet. This is crazy. I'm so fucked. I Haven't even I'm freaking out man I'm freaking out man Alright, I'm coming. I'm just a stump. Fuck Fuck mother fuck Fuck Okay, well someone is not hidden. That's me. I that was on you were I couldn't find anything I couldn't find shut up fuck. Oh my god. You're fucking no scoping bitches out here What the hell? Oh wait? I got one too. Oh Wow Damn it. This map. I don't have to be so fucking I'm going to go in. So on this map, oh my god. Instead of the whistle, you hear. Bon bon. This morning. What is that? You hear a boom boom instead? Mm hmm. OK, where is it? OK, I saw it were close. I hear a boom boom. You hear the boom boom. There's no way you did because they're well. Time to go off. OK, look at the paintings. So son, son, look at the painting. Oh, look at the ducks. Look at the ducks, son. Look at the ducks. Well, I didn't hear it. Thank you. They're so hot. Perfectly timed subs. Where the fuck are you? I'm looking for. I'm surprised Christians like me so fast. I was pretty good. Yeah, that was me. It was actually his own. Oh, I got to get credit for credits. I'll be honest. Is right in here. He's in here somewhere, Christian. Well, I just got to be in here somewhere. I think so. Yeah. He's in this painting, but he's the amicare. I got him. No. That was insane, bro. What was he? I just saw your life, bro. He was in a paint. You'll see when we go back, like it's actually stupid. I'm actually I'm honestly kind of pissed. It was that good. We had to do this again. I wasn't done. I wasn't done. I was cooking There's even better, um, painting maps to Oh, this one's pretty good Someone's Where are you? Someone is right on Oh, I got you Easy easy Nice job, it's uh This map is tough, dude Oh, you're so good I'm sorry, guys I was, I was trying to I got 11 hundred points I couldn't figure out how to turn my character No Couldn't figure out At least I tried to make myself out to be a fucking couch cushion or something Guys you have to look at hot says it's insane I was pretty good to let's run it back that one out. I was bomb. This fever went down run that one back run that one back Okay, ladies and gentlemen while I prepare to hunt down all these players We got a tour to or not fear and calm here in San Francisco, Los Angeles Portland, or Seattle This it could be your last chance to purchase a ticket to or not fear and calm Yes, I'm saying Austin said if he doesn't find one of us. He's buying ten of you tickets Why are you gonna find one of us in this next round? Oh, no, but you got to be in the city I can't get you there if you don't you got to be in the city me. But I'm a private plane. No, no, no. All right, here we go. All right, lock in guys. Oh, my camera. Can I be real quick? Yeah, you got 199 seconds. Where to go? Where to go? Boston's about a cheat. I know bro's about to look at my fucking screen when he walks in I just know he's nasty like that oh I'm sure he would do where to go where to go I just need to choose cuz time is running out I know Let's do some Okay, fix it. Don't look at my screen, Austin. I'm not looking. I saw your fucking straight eyes. Just like you were at a gay club. I got time. I got time. I've got 20 minutes. I've got time. I've got time. I've got time. I got plenty of time. Oh son, have you ever been to Seattle? Yeah. Oh, nice. Well, you want to go to the Space Needle with me? No. Oh. Okay. Sorry, bud. I'm fucking- What is that? I'm working, you know what I mean? Right now? I get it, but I know you're working right now, but I thought maybe when we- when we're in Seattle on tour, Maybe you'd go to the space unit with me I gave it to be honest Yeah, this is coming from the guy who wouldn't watch fucking broke back mountain with me by the way Austin I thought it I wanted to have to watch it with my boyfriend Didn't you know watch movies in the at ever at all stop lying. You're literally lying. That's a lie I can't get Austin to sit down and watch one fucking movie with me Now the attention span of a gnats have a fucking night And it switches fall does he ask you what's happening throughout the entire thing because he's not paying attention No, no, I can't even Caroline. I can't even get him a look if I could get him to do that I'd be happy, but I can't even get him to like sit and watch the movie at all It's like not let's watch a song stream instead man if you see my profile the internet you probably think I have no redeeming quality. What's Okay. What? What the fuck? Here we go! Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I am going to find everybody Missed spot ranking what does that mean next update 15 seconds or I'm away for that I already know only when you see people will get like that's when You see people yeah, I know Okay, you're so fucking confident. I'm just gonna say in this. Oh Somebody's nearby. Oh Joss, don't do that Boom boom boom boom. Oh wait Hassan. I must have seen him really like he must have been right in front of me boom boom Okay, where are you motherfucker? Where are you? Okay Good work. Boom, boom. Wow, Will, I'm impressed. Hasan, don't do that. You must be right in this area. Boom, boom. Ooh. Oh, he's right here. Christian. I'm looking, Ralph. I'm looking, Ralph. Don't look yet. Don't look yet. Give me a little more time. But it'll be tea. I can't. I'm so bad at this. Boom, boom. Let's look at this painting. Am I not doing a good job? Passes it impossible to find. Of course. All boom. Guys, quick with the boom boom. I can barely do it. Okay, somebody's in here. I hear the boom boom, but I can't find them still. Oh, is somebody in the rug? Oh, maybe they're. I genuinely don't know how. Gosh, damn it, movies son of a bitch. All right. What are you talking to? the rug. Okay, well, well, quit that. I genuinely don't. This is very difficult. I've never done this before. We know, Austin, you don't have to vocalize at all. Somebody's here. Somebody's here. Somebody's here. Okay, somebody's here. Who it's a song. He's in here somewhere. Where is he? Quit that, guys! Is he over- where the fuck are you, Hassan? Why are you looking for me? There's so many other people that you haven't found yet. I know I just I don't know where anybody is everybody's so well hidden Guys, I don't know uh I got you finally I was like Playing the game somebody's got to be Dang will That I'm fucking Fucking insane dude. Hostess is crazy Yeah, you could be staring at Haas directly and you will not be able to figure it out I'm just gonna start shooting. Oh, are you just randomly blasting? Yeah My god, oh dude, you're so fucked. Yeah, there's no choice Holy sh- Where is he? There's no shot you find any of these people. I am so- You're a huge dog! I am so bad in comparison to everyone else's- Oh, I didn't even see him. Why are you screaming, Christian? Where are you? Will, did you see my sock? You're fucking business! That was great. Christian! Uh-huh. Christian! Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Okay. Oh my god, there's everybody! BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM Oh my god! Where are you? Do it again! I boom boom broke. Don't let us down. Austin, I am Randomly spamming bullets at the paintings. I finally found around him like five times Yeah, you shot around Christians so many times. That's why I was screaming. It wasn't Christian. It was Yeah, I got him finally I was about to say about 100 takes we can find house. There's no shots It's time for your ticket round Five tickets you gotta buy him Hasan Wait, what is this? You're the hunter if you can't find anybody you got to buy five fear and wait Is this the same? Is this the same? I don't know if we're going to put the map. We can do the same map if that's what you want. No, it's fine. Let's do a new one. Yeah, my painting job was pretty good. Well, yours was excellent, too. That was Christian's painting was insane. Haas's painting was out of control. I mean, Caroline had a really good hiding spot, too. Everybody had a good hiding spot. Austin, get off the hunter. I'm the hunter. Oh, my bad. We're playing for tickets. I play for Tiki's playing for ticks. OK, don't change the fucking. Do not change the difficulty for me just because I because I don't mind the buying of the gallery to the art gallery. Art gallery. No, I can win on a soccer, but our gallery. Yeah, I could we could real sweat on our gallery. Oh, soccer is really fun. Give him a lot of time on our gallery. Give him extra time on our gallery. We're going in. Oh, yeah. I'm going to put me in for doing our gallery. No, not like 10 minutes. Give us another four seconds. Um, my God, there's so many. Wait, Hassan. Hassan, posture check, bro. Posture check. We will. And I saw the will. And I saw the clip of Farley staring at you earlier. How long did he stand there? I was so. Why does he? Why does he behave like a villain from a horror movie? He always the back out of my stream and it's a lot more blurry. So he's just a blurry Bob blob staring in the dark doorway. He's like he is like a like a horror movie antagonist. Like he's just there. He sits there and he's underbites. What the fuck are you doing? Like that's what it looks like. He doesn't want to come up. The mod must be downloaded to start the game. Click here to download it. Now restart required. He's so good. All right, so I'm going to click on the blue box and it'll open like the steam workshop. You subscribe button. Okay, so the cheek that's all you have to do wait. What the fuck is this sweaty ass bullshit, bro? We gave you a lot of extra time. It's time to sweat. Who's feeling homosexual now? All right, Austin don't blow this Why are you why are you signaling me out because I know that everybody's gonna be locked in And because I'm saying right now, Chad, I didn't leak shit. I'm all I'm three hundred and twenty four seconds. I'm going to go pee while we wait. Let's see those art skills. All right, here we go. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to go off. We are deep. It's a bit of a yeah, I'm going. Where do I go? Where do I go? So many options. Each one. All right. Let's do it. And he's to cook. He's not finding us. I'm going to use one of the new poses to fuck it. How much do I want to sweat? I'm about to sweat. Are you going full sweat mode for the tickets for the people? Let's get sweaty. It's time to get sweaty, folks. Oh yeah. That's what the game's been missing. that's what the game's been missing. Yep. We start with the broad strokes. You know what it is. I can do better than this. Austin, I need you to lock the fucking. How are you? Trying. Austin, how do you not drop if you're like lifting up? the spacebar. Is that what you mean? Are you gliding? Yeah, but as long as you're against a wall, you're out. Holy shit, that's a long ass break, Tom. You guys got all the benefits. It's for the people. Yeah, it looks a little stinking. What is this? No. I don't see anything. Also, this game is awesome. I get why everybody loves it. Yeah, it's fabulous. Yeah, dude. What are you even saying? When are you guys doing this game IRL? I wish someone here like was like a show host or something that would be willing to like, you know, host a show around. That would be I would suck at this game IRL. I would be it'd be harder for me to fucking do this IRL than. How do I how do I go? How do I lower myself? How do I go down? down. How are you not aware of the oh my god it's great I'm so glad you're here Austin because you make it look like a boomer you know what you use a computer or more than I do so that's why you're that's crazy you do you do use a computer more than I do we're going to be the man work Draw your avatar. Oh my god guys. Jesus sure here here. I'll fucking draw myself. Okay. How do I move forward? Lock the fucking I feel so bad. I'm so quiet, but I just I might have been too ambitious with the amount of time we have yes, dude, it's wait ambitious. It's Yes, sometimes you just try to paint too much, you know, fuck, fuck, fuck, this is better. Hey, I'm just unlocked. Hey, I work. I can choose what's happening here. I Okay, this is Bob this is bad To go why is he so mad because I am mad mad Take a deep breath King. Oh Fuck it's too dark Only five tickets I can zoom in. Oh my god. I can zoom in. I can zoom in. Mm-hmm. I can zoom in. Oh my god Yeah, I think I tried to do too much Fuck Can we not paint after the time's up or we can compete? Yeah, you can paint on this map I encourage you to paint as much as you can yeah you're kind of cooking with that a song the voice of David disappearing hello wow his god I like how everyone gets quiet as if like help them hide. I'm just focused on painting. I can't. Oh, I understand why this is a sweaty map now. Jesus Christ, dude, there's so many fucking details. Oh, and we can't come close to the fucking paintings. You gotta stay at a distance. No touching. You're fucked, Esad! You hear me?! Get by those tickets to ur.fairhand.com! That's crazy. Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles. San Francisco, take your pick. I'm talking to you, San Francisco. To ur.fairhand.com. I Can't even like try to see if there's any anyone that's like sticking out of the painting from the side. It's fucking annoying You know what I mean Who am I looking at like this looks like it's it This is will your oh my god, there's so much more I'm so good it's problematic. Yeah, well will is insane Caroline not as insane, but it's still very good Oh Christian nice Austin Bro, I fucked me with this by the way. Just so you know more detail than you did I don't even know how to do this. Hosses is crazy. I don't know you guys just fucked me Cuz this is way more difficult than the previous one I'm not going to stop this. I can't see Haas and I'm on the camera. I can't see Will's. Haas, where are you? I can't see you at all. I'm literally looking at you. Oh, I see you. I think we could whistle for the next minute and a half straight and he won't find us Keep your eyes. Mine is the worst I don't even know how to do texture. I didn't know we could do. I have no idea Spackle Paint must grab a grab a color. That's like close to where I give up This is crazy and and just like tap it Okay, so I'm gonna tell you there's no one in this room Yeah, there's no one in this room either Or just back a lot trap no you just you gotta like tap the color bud. Oh, I see My yeah, right did house where do you think of mine it's awesome there's no one no one in this room okay I trust you almost out of time I'm trying to help you I'm trying to give you the no there's no shot I will never everybody whistle you know what mine was very ambitious my taxi pretty fucking good you guys are on the Yeah Wait am I winning He was in the room with me the most I got 900 points. That's on you got closed Okay Wait Fuck Christian Christian. Yours was the best. That's crazy. Look at Christian. It is so good. I shot it. There's so many times, Christian. I was looking through the painting, Christian. I could not find it. You're up. My work and you you're staring right at him. Oh, my God. My current one is crazy. Like, I'm going into. Wow. OK, that was that was the same. Fred, your mistake is so hard to do. That was fucking insane. They all So I don't even know how we'll do this wait. So who was to give out how many tickets are being given out now? Five but I don't even know how we give them out Hassan's mods pick five people in the songs community that are you think are deserving and local to go to one of the shows and He'll grab them tickets. Yeah mods Yeah, they have to prove that they're local to a particular city. I don't know how that's gonna work, but Yeah You should just have them chat with their home city and then have them mods like command f look for them You know I mean the ability for like a redemption code No, we don't have those that option But anyway, if you don't want it if you don't want to risk it to or not fear and calm There's very limited seats left in every city, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, and Los Angeles. Out of all the cities that we're stopping at, what's the, what's your favorite city like outside of the people? Just like in terms of like LA, SF, Seattle, you guys are going to say LA, and I'm going to say Portland. Okay. End of conversation. All right. So in LA, Seattle. Really? You like Seattle better than Portland? You've never been to Portland, have you? I think I have. Yeah. Are we doing the mod one again? Where do we want to go? I like Portland. Do you guys want I mean you guys are all staying at my house so I'm gonna have to get you snacks. I'm so excited for you guys to stay at our house and if you guys to see how millennial grade is. Yeah, that's enough. I'm gonna have a manual gray sleepover Are we all staying at your place? I think everybody is yeah Pretty sure, you know, I gotta make us breakfast in bed. We don't even have awesome doesn't cook He's not gonna do he doesn't even Staying bed for us. He only has Queens. No, I don't have cake. I only have queen beds You mistresses guess like that. Your dude. Yeah, you have to paint yourself first, then duplicate, then you can paint the next guy that you are nervous. It's like you shed your skin. So paint yourself and then move and paint yourself then move and paint yourself to move. And you can we could do around where everyone has to be a clone. That would be fine. Raise the stakes. No, the thing is, what do you mean? No, let's not. I this is okay. Yeah, I'm playing at a level. I have never played this game before. OK, this is like my fourth go at it. OK, we got to play as easy as possible. What happens if your clone gets shot? That's on you. You die. That's your entire thing, guys. Any of your clones, if any of them get shot, you lose. That's too, that's too advanced. So they're not a decoy. I OK, I think I speak for myself and Austin when I say this is too tough for us. Yeah, we need we were barely able to do the base level of the game. And I'm sure you guys weren't able to do it your first time playing either have show some grace. Yeah, thank you right And one of my chat is cooking my ass because they've been playing this game for months now or they've been watching other people play This game so they know all the tips and tricks And I can't even fucking rotate my body on top of a goddamn painting for for half of the the painting process and And I wish I wish I wish I would ask you guys to play mechakillian with them again Whose fault is that yeah, I wish you got I wish like I wish you guys had friends to play mechakillian with it This feels like a great game to play with your friends. Yeah, I've never actually been invited. That's okay But maybe Christian maybe Christian has invited me once or two. Yeah, I gotta play one more round Yeah, what? Yes, of course. I'm waiting any map The Simpsons one is pretty fun. No, it's a little bit like a bullshit. It's so big. No, I don't like the simpsons one Yeah, it's kind of that one's big. Oh Hey, I guess I'll just uh No, no wait. Sorry Caroline. Were you say were you saying it's your favorite? No, it's just throwing one out cuz I can Oh, sorry bullshit. Sorry, uh Egypt I know I'm sorry. Sorry like this could work for this No, the simpsons one is great Caroline It's fun no no no no we love you and your opinion and they're valid and you're seen and you're beautiful and natural Wait, I'm the hunter again He's standing on the red dot no, I wasn't No, I wasn't it is randomly fucking chose me as the hot god damn it. This is a tough one This this place is tough. There's no way you're gonna be able to The last one was crazy I believe in you locking none of you bitches believe in me don't even fucking act like you believe in me chat I've been reading even you I've been reading their comments. They don't believe in me. They they are they're like you fucking suck Draw on yourself loser. I I don't understand this they beg for gaming and then just demoralize you in your life that's why they want a game so they can shit on me and he's on and then they start spamming you're so good at gaming hard hard hard over and over again like it means anything That's nice try something a little different this round Okay, I'm gonna lock in this time it's tough it's tough. I don't know how the fuck I can't see my eyesight is no good This is double or nothing, right? I don't know how to, I don't think so. I don't know why I'm the hunter every time. What the fuck's going on? Still 93 seconds. Fuck, I don't know what to do. yourself up like Nancy mains no you're a goaded hunter house and I mean no I'm not and it's crazy that you're lying to me because I know I'm not because I've I've been demoralized thoroughly. Lemory on Haga Nero. How do I go into the wall? Hunter applicants should stand here. So fucked. If it makes you feel any better, I know for a fact that Christian spent the day practicing. That's crazy! What?! Actually, Christian, I feel like there's a lot of accusations being thrown around. Is that who you are? I'm just gonna work on my thing and no one can just let me game in peace. You know what? Did I wake up and do what I needed to do and do a ritualistic behavior and then play some mecha-chameleon to refresh myself with the game? You know what? Sure! But at least some of us are dedicated enough to game night to fucking do that, okay? Yeah, I'm sorry. I was covering the fucking news all morning. And who said that system up? But speaking of which, Hasan, you need to get your YouTube editor to upload a little quicker. I had no fresh news on YouTube when I... Wait, what? We're putting up like three to four a day. What are you talking about? I know, but it was from yesterday. Can we get the same day upload, please? I'm sick and tired of watching the AI channels. I'm just kidding. I don't watch those. But sometimes I don't even know. I don't know if you're kidding or not on that one. In my defense, I don't even know I'm watching him sometimes. I'm like, oh shit Dude, what the fuck is this area, bro? This is a crazy map Every map for me is new too. Wait, these look straight up like Wait, did I miss it? Did I miss the fucking wheat? We're We And Are you all so calm? Hmm I mean, I'll be honest, I it's the now headphones thing is probably not helping me here. But how much of that is head? How much of that is ears though? I feel like it's mostly. You're asking an awful lot of science questions. What am I fucking looking for, you man? I can't believe you just- I thought you're not wearing your glasses? Yes. What's going on? Come on, man. What? Are you not wearing your glasses? Is on? I am. Son, you want to tap me in? I could look at your other monitor. What? I could be another set of eyes. What? No, it is cheating. I didn't say I was right here. So I couldn't do it. I just don't fucking. What the fuck wait wait did Christian just give up? Did you just accidentally hit him? No I saw him moving. So I, Caroline, I can measure up there. Caroline look at me. What the fuck? How the fuck did Christian get out before me? That's crazy. Look at me Caroline. I can't. I can't. I'm just trying to stand. Hoss is crazy. You're fucking insane, Hoss. Where is- Hoss has got to be- He's getting more and more on his heart than I get on my head. It's like, what are you doing? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. I just I don't know I have no idea I'm so bad at hunting and I'm bad at fucking painting to you're going to kill yourself when you figure out where I am if you just standing in front of me this whole time I don't get it I mean essentially yeah basically how do I not see anything it's making me so mad I hate this game now Austin you're original position I felt like it was so good. Heson how have you not moved like an inch from where you found me bro? Because- You've been in one place the whole mat. Because I was- Because the fucking sounds are coming from that place. No don't worry about the sounds but you don't have surround sound hearing. Bro open your eyes. Oh my gays. Heson. That's actual- That's actually insane. Heson, I can't believe you. Heson, I can't believe you. Heson, I can't believe you. Heson, I can't believe you. Heson, I can't believe you. What? I can't tell you guys are fucking with me or not. What? Awesome just pack it up I don't know I don't know I'm so mad. I'm getting so angry I'm losing I'm losing my like compared to what everyone else is doing. I definitely didn't need to sweat so hard. No, no one even has points aside from hot around. It's on, it's on around. Five and go right here. Oh my God. Well, yours is so bad. I shot Literally shot at him like three times. How did he not get you? Spider-man do you know how webs work? Wait wait, but I okay first of all I shot Haas like three times I guess you did it, though. That is fucking bullshit. You're you're that's that's got to be cheating. Right. You went meta. Did the AI, the AI synapses for the stream is going to be Haas robot bullies AI child. Okay. Okay. To be to be fair to me, I didn't know you could hide behind like actual the web, but I didn't know I had to angle it because it looked like there was something behind the web and I kept shooting at it. It's going to say stream streamer that lives under underpass bullies Haas is haunting this time we're doing our gallery time redeem yourself. I'm not gonna be able to he's gonna cook me I can't even pay myself for shit You can paint anyone can paint Pick a small brush and sample a bunch. Yes, hit space. You can get the colors around you. You can do it. You can do anything you put your mind. Who's hunting? Who's hunting? Yeah, I'll stay on the circle. I'll be fat. All right. I'm going to be one of the big ones. Our gallery is so good Okay I've never played before I don't know Bro, it's actually huge I don't know what I chose it's fine. I'll be fine I'll still he won't be able to find me still whoever who's hunting Bosses fuck Oh, fuck. No, I'm not a very good hunter, honestly. Oh, okay. He's looking good. He's got the fuck up. Okay. Oh, I'm not a very good hunter, honestly. Sure, sure, bud. No, no. We'll see, we'll see. I look like I'm Chris Christie. I said that is literally my painting. Get out of here, Caroline. You are so far. If you want to be found, you'll hide next to me. That is crazy. Time to get to work. And remember that if you don't hide in it, like a painting in time, it'll, it'll knock you out. So you need to like get into a painting and commit. Yeah. Wait, really? Yeah. The lights just went out. So if you're not a painting, you're, you're cooked. Awesome. Did you get into a painting? I'm in a painting, yeah. Remember, start with your big brushes and then refine. I don't know even know where the small brushes are. I don't know how to change brushes. You take this mouse wheel, brother. Oh, well that zoomed in. If you hit shift and then, or sorry, if you hit right click, it'll, you can change the size of your brush. Awesome. Okay. Right click and then drag your mouse a little bit. Sample often. Okay, you said right-click Christian and then Oh, Dan it's you really are a boomer. Oh, I get it. Okay, Christian. They didn't have these keys these these keybinds when I was gaming I'm so ready to play this round I got my fit on and everything right now are you naked house no what are you wearing pink t-shirt Oh, fuck. How did you think t-shirts are world weakness? And no pants. I'm about to shoot. I'm about to burst. Oh, Lord. I'm about to burst. I miss him so much. May he rest in fucking peace. Fuck, I want a legend. What a fucking legend. Fuck. All right, nobody's get nobody has any faith in me Two minutes left to paint You need to stop seeking external validation Austin and start finding that validation on the inside That's a secret to being good at mech a chameleon I'm texture Yeah, and texture They've got a texture okay everything good in there oh yeah baby it's no I'm excited for Cutie's wedding. I don't know how to do texture at all. I still don't know. Make the brush really small and move it around quickly. Make it small as it gets and then move it around quickly and it'll make dots. It's not apparently you're cooking right now, bro. I'm not they're wrong No, no, I got people people saying you're the streets are saying you're cooking Posses it whether it's a you know, a good afternoon or Matt. We don't know Left It's Matt. Oh, it's Matt. Yeah, it's fucking math That's the best game show that hasn't been made yet What it's definitely math Is it math? Contestants must someone we knew ever like close it shows or something, you know Will's hosted shows with me, right? I Got a media request for name your price recently, and I was like, I don't know if you guys know this but Fuck I just fucking hit the wrong button Fuck how do I go up again? and the and big-ass character really is not helping at all you are huge Austin how do I get in the painting more maybe I think it's cooked I think it's cooked but you know how do I get in how do I get in effort in your beautiful sorry sorry it was your legs well that's incredible it was my legs well that's insane who's that I'm I'm cooked. I'm cooked. I can't believe I wasn't the first one to be found. Yeah, it was my body shape is bad. I heard a whistle over there. Boss on Twitch. Damn. How the fuck are you? Damn, Assad. I mean it. OK, it's not bad. You're starting to get that. You're starting to get the meta. I think you can keep hitting it. No, I can't. I need to keep hitting it. I mean, it's not look at mine to feel better about yours. Couldn't hear the whistle We're all you should explore painting more not bad Austin Austin Austin oh my lord Why are you built like that? hahahaha hahahaha you're so bad you look like the Michelin man oh you got me oh damn ok what the fuck am I the last man standing no no no no Will's so alive Will's a tough one wait wait can I listen to the whistle maybe whistling that's weird I can't believe this, there's no way! Austin presented himself like the whale in the painting. He just looked straight up like the whale in the painting. Austin! Wait Austin, look like Steven Chung. Okay, Wills is going to be tough. Let me tap her is he I Can't find will and I'm looking at him. Yeah, well, he's really good I look he wish I was built like Austin's character. I'd be honest big like a lot of ass Like a pair a lot of ass like a pair. Yeah Shape oh, I'm sorry. Are you saying that the pear shape is an undesirable shape? I'm just asking you things that the show is on looks like I just thought maybe you know, I just think that the hips like you know That would be live back out of the body. Where is he must be on the discussion What are you eating? Why are you like crumbling that paper so much? Oh, just love Oh, oh, wow, wow, I don't know how the fuck you figured that out. For the other ones, you have to see Austin, what did Austin last longer than me? What the fuck? I know I did that, but like, damn, you know what it was? I saw you and I didn't turn around all the way so I didn't and put eyes on him Oh, so I low key helped off and now a lot of deeps in this one All right, LG LG LG LG Austin that's crazy When the fuck did that become popular literally 20 years ago everybody knows that I mean I play games I don't remember ever using LG God you were Will my career started That's that's game you play game Well, I played games that weren't like they never ended so flights No, I play Call of Duty and halo Believe how your your plethora of gaming ranges from some of the biggest juke games and then the most nerdy as most autistic Gaming you could possibly play I mean Like cod madden FIFA and then runescape Did he max city planner 08? Yeah? Literally, it's like wait. I used to play roller coaster tycoon too. Oh, yeah, sure I Not like very often anything I've been the hunter yet No, I remember Caroline being Hunter someone be the hunter please Caroline if you haven't been the hunter gonna be honest. I don't remember Caroline having been hunter pretty much. I remember hunting Yeah, when you got when you got the parasite Not solo Okay Normal body type is this. Oh, Carol. Yeah, the other body types are tough. There's something. All right, Caroline. Caroline. Caroline, do this for women everywhere. You're all. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I will. Oh, wait. Why am I so fucking? Oh, yes. So fuck. Fuck. I didn't pick these. God, fuck, fuck. Nope. You did. No pressure, Caroline. if you if you fail it's really looking bad it'll look bad on women everywhere i mean austin that in the fucking pyramid one austin fucked me it was such a simple one and he just straight up well you fucked yourself lady you're the one that couldn't find me i was right there in a plain sight. I don't know about plain sight Austin, but sorry I'm I'm about to be tryhard as fuck, and I'm just apologizing in advance. I Austin found the same thing I just found which is so bright oh watch out because he'll be still my painting last time We have to be nice to boomers. Okay, that's That's crazy. We're getting endlessly harassed up in this bitch. I don't know what's going on Okay, who's harassing I think if you just game more, no, right, literally. It's scary. Awesome. I swear if you blow up my spot. You're not. You're going to blow up my spot. What do you mean? You are sticking out like a literal thumb right now. Well, I'm just a part of the environment. Just a thumb in the environment. I don't know really how you're doing all the things. I don't know all the buttons. buttons. Space bar to pick a color. And then you just draw it on. Wait, no, you know, not that. I got to move. I have to move. You'll be fine. I won't be. We're in this together. I'm not going to get found. You're going to get found. It's like your leg or your arm. I don't even know what that is right there that's not pink and white right now. How do I make this smaller? We go. Less than a minute. Let me see if I can have a cig. What the fuck did you just do? Oh, I don't know. I Honestly, I don't think you're gonna find me I did a little tech a little tech, you know, just a cheeky little amount of tech. Oh That that white part is me. Oh shit. Yeah, that's you. That's what I was saying I thought that was you Oh my days. Oh my fuck. Oh my days. Wow. That make a pussy drop. You look like a like a sesame bun. What is that? Don't give it away. That's some bullshit. And I'm pissed about it. Okay. Do you see what he's doing right now to me? Yeah. Oh, that is great. Great dude, you are Such a fucking try hard. It's not even funny Oh Christian You're so like Christian the worst person to play this No, because when when y'all were busy doing whatever other fuck-ass content, I was mega-chameleoning, okay? No way Hey Hassan looking look where look where I am you're cheating because the house is cheating You just copied me but then did it like like a sesame bun is around here quit saying sesame bun That's what you look like You're just being a hater. This is the best one. I've ever had I Don't even know where you are I don't even know what you are like it's crazy What the fuck is this nice stupid tag that's just dumb tag. I'm actually upset about it I come from here. I'm set for Caroline. Are you? Yeah, I'm upset for you girl You're never gonna find it's kind of so he's upset You're never gonna find Austin He's upset on behalf of all women You're never going to find Austin. I know that for a fact because he's cheating alongside Haas. I'm not cheating. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. You kind of are though. You kind of are though a little bit. You guys are kidding. Is it what is it called? It's not meta gaming. It's like power gaming, I guess. No. They're sweating. They're just sweating. What they're doing is sweating. You're, they're sweating. Christian is also sweating, but I feel like Christian is sweating in a more honorable way if that makes sense. Whereas Will and I are pretty, you know, we're playing pretty basic introductory gameplay. Is this, is this better? If I do this, now, ladies and gentlemen, this is a reminder. If you haven't bought your fear and tickets to or not fear and.com, we are literally going to be in your city this week. That's you San Fransisco, Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles. We'll be there the next week to or not fear and dot com for all your ticket options tickets are very limited at this moment but they are available Haas Haas you're still fucking petty. No, Haas. Haas didn't look at you. Haas didn't look at what's going on over there. Oh, come on Haas. Nobody except Hasan is pleased with reason I haven't even looked at anyone. That is bullshit Haas you know it. Okay, then I just not gonna stop whistling just for you, okay? I don't even know. Okay, I'm not even close. Who's whistling? Stop it! It's Oz. He's whistling and mourning at you. I still don't think Caroline's gonna find you guys. Cause it's so damn good. You look good, bro. You look good. Thank you. Thank you. This is fucking bullshit. Oh, that's fucked up. Oh, okay. All right. At least I got one. Stop it. Pops, you're going to give yourself away. I mean, I was the most like. I needed one. I needed one. Thank you. Pops, fell on the sword for winning. You're giving yourself. You're giving yourself away. Yeah, yeah, I fell on the sword for we're giving yourself. You're giving yourself away Look at you're the only one has me. You don't know that I didn't even realize this is a part of the game where you can like manipulate the environment That's the whole premise of the game I Thought the premise of the game was pain No, but that I'm not a dog But I didn't realize a clip like I didn't realize like clipping is a big part of it Anyone It's honestly really funny if you're hiding that no, no, it's so stupid. It's a he's cheating It's like We'll let a pretty basic like, you know He went up he went up up above What what is yeah, they don't even look like He was pointing at him to Right LG though Clipping into the map Okay, we need one more. I started it. I didn't know it was acceptable. He plays more than me, so I thought I followed his lead. I'm sorry I trusted him. You just straight up copied him. I had giant red arrows on me. I'm sorry I trusted him. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry I trusted him. I'm sorry. Yeah, I need to play this game with like-minded individuals with a similar level of skill. Oh, play one of the intro maps. All right, like, we got to let him go. He's done, right? Yeah, I was yeah I was gonna end it but I you know You know what? Having fun You want one lg? You're kind of you're kind of enjoying it huh gaming's fun, isn't it? Yeah, but I'm tired one more Oh, it doesn't want one more only 20 seconds high time Haas or Haas on the spot again I'm staying no It's any of the speed round Okay, I'll haunt this time I got my D myself I already got my 30 last one 30 seconds 30 seconds I can't even honest my pain 30 seconds Yeah, OK, this is awesome. I'm about to steal one of your spots. I can't do that. I'm going to do a spot. Let's do it together. OK, let's do it together. Let's do it together. Let it ride. There we go. Let it ride. Let it ride. Hosh, Emily's right there. I thought it was tough. I don't know. All right, you got 30 seconds. Yep. Fucked. OK. Oh, maybe seconds just to get there's not going to be enough. All right. Are you going to pay your care? You're getting dog. I have 16 seconds. What do you want me to do to pay my character? 16 seconds. You're kidding me. Oh, shit. Uh. Did Charlie Kirk feed him shirt? What the fuck? OK, it's still tough. It's still tough. I hate this. This is such a busy map. Oh, my God. It basically just had to run straight to our hiding spots. So yeah, it really is just like hiding. Yeah, like work. What the fuck is this thing? What is that? It's where Christian went because he didn't go where I thought it was going to go. He didn't go where I went. Wait, yeah, I don't know where you went. OK, that's why I saw this. spot that you that you show me. Oh, there's you guys already know cheat spots. On this level. Wow, this one's really hard. I'm in the moving things. I don't understand. Those are tumbleweed. Like that's. This is crazy. I can't believe you haven't found me. the the the the the the the that you got this song I'm looking at the scores and I was clearly like seeing Austin somewhere but Austin like what the fuck I mean it's it's working isn't it it's working Christian yeah talk to your shit Christian shit. All right. All right. All right. Talk your shit, Christian. What happened? What happened? Who got found? I'm just I'm going to feel like a fucking asshole again when I see Austin's dumb ass spot where he's just like standing. He literally didn't even paint himself. Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's crazy. That's so god damn. Oh, okay. Okay. I'm doing an effort to fucking hide. You just crashed into a little ball and painted yourself like great well you got caught so he so did you about that and you're kicking so and you're well you're here oh chill though not that you are at least you can't calm that in turkey I'm not gay you are here oh true true turkey doesn't consider the church milk doesn't consider tops to be gay yeah only only one of us could be in the military well how was that well what how fuck i'm gonna serve in the turkish military just thinking about that i'm furious but honestly i'm sailing like you are sailing baby Okay guys hold on don't talk for a second. I'm in the way Where the fuck this is not that big of a map how am I not seeing you motherfuckers House you may not be capital H. I am and that's okay Am I missing a part of the map like am I did I go everywhere? I feel like I went everywhere You're just playing in his face, bro. I know. It's just too much fun. You got this. You got this, King. Thank you. You're welcome. Would you quit whistling, whoever that is? I mean, I'm happy that I got at least two people this time, you know what I mean? I redeemed myself a little bit. and the house is looking a little game and like you guys go low no shot that's crazy wait we're walking around with the Fuck Well That's correct. That's crazy Wait, so you guys just running around the whole time like far away No, I was literally on your hip What We go before we go. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, fear and is going on tour. This could be your last chance. It's the last stream stream that we're doing together, but your last chance to see us on tour for sure. This will be the first way. What? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm finding out for the first time that this is your last chance to see us ever on tour. You're not your hand. Tom San Francisco. We're coming to you first on Friday, coming Friday. We will be there at the Golden Gate Theater. Doors at 5.30, 7 p.m. So if you're in San Francisco right now, tickets are available. There are a few left. And then we're going to go up the road up the Pacific Coast to Seattle, Washington at McCall Hall. That's at 7 p.m. Doors at 5.30. We'll see you there. And then we're going to drive or fly or do something to to get to you in Portland, Oregon at the Keller auditorium. That's August 23rd, Sunday, 7pm, doors at 530 tour.fearand.com. Last but not least, the next week, we will be in Los Angeles, California at the Dolby Theater right there on Hollywood Boulevard, doors at 530 show at seven o'clock. Come join us. We can't wait to see you. Your beautiful faces. It's going to be fantastic. You're going to see the fear and podcasts. You're going to see elevated segments. You're going to see Caroline quad in a couple of stops. That's right from women. That's right. You'll, uh, you'll see the crew and all our shenanigans. And, uh, I'm going to have a butler in every, in every city, right? When we stay there, you're going to have a butler there, right? That's right. He's going to be the butler. Yeah. Good. He's honest. It's me. I'm the butler. No, I'm not. Come to your hand nothing less. That's right. Bring your clear bags clear bags and Give time for long security lines. That's all right We're using the tsa. I'm just kidding All right, we're a girl in Chicago. Thank you for five gifted steps. Good. I appreciate. All right. Nice What a good night everybody Come everybody to it up your hand. Thank you. All right. Bye guys. Bye everybody Okay, everybody love you all tomorrow is Monday news day you already know what's up You already know what it is. 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