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but we'll see how that is very soon.
Let me just show you guys first of all, the Wikipedia page, Kings Gauntlets,
all right, Daniela, very nice, all right.
So take a look at the bracket here real quick before we start with the first set of the day guys.
So we have the top brackets.
We're going to do this a bit later on in the day.
Cap Monti Thermal, Grubby Pig, those are like the main events, the headliners of the day.
The first, we have some loser bracket games to get through.
Noth vs. Noko, that's going to be the first set.
That's going to be the best of three, all right.
Alright, and afterwards you have the Wagamama Sing Sing
and then the winner of this match versus H-Rock, Best of Fives.
So today we have Best of Five rounds
and it's gonna be a lot of fun.
Let's go ahead and hop right in with Daniella.
And we're gonna start the first set here real quick.
Let me just open up my casting booth.
But I gotta make sure that we have a shimmer mode on.
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And let me just share my screen over here.
There you go. And show the entire screen. Alright, fantastic. So, with all that said, we're going to go ahead and hop right into the first game and give them the signal for them to start.
Alright.
Hello. Good morning, Hera.
Yo, good morning, Daniela. Thanks for joining us for the first day of the day today.
Yeah, I'm excited. I think this is going to be a fantastic matchup.
I was looking forward to it yesterday. It couldn't happen, but I'm still happy to be able to go fast with you.
Just starting the day fresh with a very, very good matchup.
Yeah, absolutely. It's just the last best of three set.
So just to remind the chat, this should have happened yesterday.
We had some issues in the scheduling.
It got delayed to today, so it's going to be a best of three between Knoff and Loco.
Arguably one of the more competitive sets, to be fair.
Knoff on paper a little higher elo than Loco, the Loco showed really good strategies against
Otofu especially on Arabia. He's got that good infantry ram push, he hits the timing
well, he gets all the upgrades, he's really good with it. So I feel like this could really
go either way. The players are just about ready to get started here. And then we get
the coach set up. And Danila, good morning.
Good morning
Yeah, I absolutely agree with you
Just I just hopped into the game as well. I I agree with you and
It's going to be a close matchup
and
I'm very I gotta admit
I'm very sad for whoever wins this because this is an elimination match
They're going to be out of the tournament and I like a lot both of these players. I think they have a great potential
I
Knopf was actually one of the people that I watched a couple of streams before I
I left for my vacation. So it was very nice to see him
Grow
It was nice to see him just get better at better was watching back
Watching a very big each build order very closely taking notes all the time. It was just yeah
Yeah, absolutely. So
First of all guys welcome in Knopf's gonna be in red. I'm just make sure the cams are good here
Let me go ahead and just switch them. Just give me one second here
Wait, how do I do this?
Okay, wait
Wait, so I have some cam issues here
We're gonna have to
Switch the boxes
No, we're gonna put Knopf's gonna be in blue and low cone red
No. Yeah. Yeah, it was good.
No, sorry. I'm really confused right now. Give me one second. Go ahead and nail the cast.
I think you just need to switch the cameras. And then you're good.
Okay. So like you said, enough is playing as Dravidians here in the south.
The north of the map we have local playing as the poles.
This is probably the third game that I'm watching from Loco, that I see him playing,
polls on Fortress, there were a couple of things going south, the previous two games
that we're going to talk a bit about them. And I'm curious to see what he has learned
from his past mistakes. Noth played Dravidians once before. I've seen him, I think Dravidians
were one of the first sieves he has been looking into for Fortress. I saw him executing a very
nice boom yesterday with them. The timing and the unit choices were a tiny bit late yesterday.
I'm just eager to see if he has improved those.
We're good. Thank you, Denny. A very unprofessional start to the day here, but that's the regular,
that's the normal, that's the expected from the King's Gauntlet, of course. It's husband
and wife production at home, guys. Not really some kind of Red Bull production. It's off
by one pixel. Well, somebody give that guy a 24-hour ban, because I cannot fix it anymore.
Well, guys, welcome in, finally, to a very nice local connoisseur from the Blue,
local and red final colors not gonna switch it.
And yeah, Trividians versus Poles.
So listen, we've seen Poles plenty of times in Loco.
In fact, he goes to like the five DC boom.
But here's the thing, he's lost both games
with Poles on this map.
So even though he's lost both games,
he's actually still going to the Poles again.
That being said, one game he forgot his upgrade,
very key upgrade.
And another game he got Kingsnight by Otofu,
which is a fantastic play from Tofu.
And so Loco, despite those losses,
still kind of sticks to that main sieve. Knoff also lost her Dravidians yesterday but
still sticking with this. So right here we're seeing two guys that are sticking with sieves
that have failed them before. What do you make of that Daniella? Do you think that's
done not knowing anything else or do they feel like, no, the sieve is good, I just
kind of messed up?
I think it's also very easy to stick to what you know and improve what you've
done wrong. So like you said, local first first game he played, he went for the
night spam, but he forgot about the unique technology from the castle that
makes his nights cheaper, which is a very important technology to get if you're
going to go for that strategy that what makes pulse very strong with a very
big power spike in early early import late castle age depends when you're
going for it. He learned from that. Next game, he got it. He went for the stream chat, but
he forgot about his king. He was actually streaming this morning, and I heard him talk about,
okay, how can I remember about my king chat? And he was actually looking into the most
that some of the others are using to make his king bigger.
That's actually hilarious. Making your king bigger, I think it's a good way to not lose him.
But we'll see. I think it just came down to actually him forgetting that the king existed in that tower.
So we'll see what we can do. Remember all the attacks. Remember this king would be crucial on this map.
Of course, Red is a fortress. You have to keep the king alive. If the king goes down, you lose the game.
And we've seen a ton of king snipes in this tournament so far, which actually makes me really happy
because I think that's like the best part of this map and really what it has to offer.
it has to offer both players up to cast it at a very similar time, but Knoff has actually
22 seconds of idle TC, which is strange because he's coming in as the favorite for this matchup.
And with a higher elo, you have like a weaker Dark Age usually is not supposed to be the
case, but I mean, just goes to show that anything could happen.
It's not the end of the world, but it is worth pointing out.
He's a little bit behind economically compared to Loco.
Absolutely. Except for those 22 seconds at LTC time, I think generally, most of the streamers,
all of the streamers in this tournament, I feel like have really good build orders.
I mean, I know they practice a lot, but I'm honestly impressed.
Yeah, I really agree with that, actually, Daniela, and like, especially Loco's build here,
Loco's build is something that I was talking with, I think, Louis, and we're like,
Like, yo, we're gonna copy the strategy for pro games.
It's very cool.
You just take a little bit of stone with poles,
and it lets you go for a four-tenth center boom
whilst also getting a little bit of gold
from that pole mining bonus,
which helps you use it at the market
to buy some wood or food.
Really, really cool strategy.
You're just gonna go for the pure boom here.
But as you said, Daniela,
BuildLitters is a very, very strong suit
of all of the players in this tournament.
I would say most, at least.
I was looking yesterday at Death Note's boom, Death Note has a better boom than I did.
I don't fool that.
No, legitimately.
That was really good.
Now, if only he made army after the boom, but the boom was good.
Small things to work on, but they're absolutely off to a great start.
Knoth opening three pieces here.
We can talk a tiny bit about the Siv bonuses.
It's quite easy for Knoth to do this opening because Dravidians get 200 extra wood when
they're advancing to the next stage.
So that will help him just get those TCs up in time.
But while I'm saying that, I noticed that he's actually a couple of seconds behind.
Yeah.
Loco already has 3 TCs up and running.
And by the way, that's just purely due to Loco's early game economy.
up res collected over Knoth, which really shouldn't be the case because Dravidian's early game
with that actually 200 res should actually be the smoother early game instead of sub.
Actually, just credit the local for that super sharp build order.
I will say though, I just add a little bit of flavor commentary to the situation here.
The 200 wood Dravidian bonus usually is a one and done deal.
You get the 200 wood and you don't get anything from it afterwards.
But the way to use that to make it a long lasting eco bonus is to use that 200
add in that extra fourth town center and that lets you get a villager lead which
gives you that long-lasting economy bonus to really boost your res collected.
Comparing that to the polls of course they naturally get a long-lasting res
collected bonus because every time they make a farmer on the full work they
get extra food. They get 10% of the farms total yield immediately into the
stockpile. So as you can see locals are going to make these six farms. He's going to get a bunch of food directly into the stockpile as he makes them.
Take a look at that food count to just skyrocket up not too much of course, but he does get like a good 25 for farm here
Absolutely, and this is very good very important to keep your tc's running especially early on because usually you get to castle age with
four or five hundred food in your
Stockpile you put on three tc's. It's very easy
It's a game through those couple of hundred food very fast you make like maximum three bills per TC and then that food runs out
Oh
local Lucent Scout
Not a huge deal, but worth mentioning of course first kill the game
But yeah, it's your point Daniella
keeping TC's running very very important and the food doesn't go quick
I agree with that like you have a little stockpile it make a few bills all of a sudden it's gone
You need to separate farms
It's usually a race to 18 farms get the CCs running then you go for the fourth that which we seek not doing which is very good
It's not
I like the way he's kind of expanding his what house walling
To the left. I missed the tension. I'm not sure if he's got it
He doesn't know that there's a hole between those two lines. Oh my god. I could come into play later
It's like a little like a she loves layer pass. That's just a secret pass. Nobody really knows about it
Let's see if he comes to fix it
does technically have an opening through the right side as well on the back but
those openings shouldn't matter too much but you know we'll see keep an eye on
them of course heavy plow now coming in for Loco very important upgrade for the
bowls and we're not seeing the fourth and fifth TC from Loco the patented
five TC boom not yet on the field but I think he's gonna go for it because I
don't see him deviating from that plan anytime soon I think it's gonna go
for it I think yesterday he went for it later then you would usually see the
40 seat usually when he makes the 40 seat he makes the fifth one right next to it
yes
from what I've seen
Yeah, it's really strange. I don't know why he does that but he's done it religiously so far here. We go
for TC and
No space for one next to it, but I serve actually that is there is technically let's see who goes for it
I would die if you just smash the TC there
needs a couple
more wood
There it is, 5 TC's, Daniela called it.
Uh, Loco, but that just shows how committed he is to this build, like...
It's very rare to drop 2 TC's, 1 shot, Loco has done it 3 times straight.
This guy is like, if he's going to do something, he's going to do it consistently.
Which is actually a very good habit with an RTS,
which is not really, you know, to shake up your initial build order, or your initial game plan.
And of course, he's doing this because he wants to save space for the full-work farms around his main base.
So he's kind of putting the TC to the side where he cannot farm anyways. Pretty cool.
And Gnoth with the 50c on the gold kind of expending outside of his walls. I like that. I don't mind that.
He probably should start sending a Vyrgyrshornstone in my opinion. One thing that I noticed is that
maybe players sometimes forget about the stone. Usually you would already want to have a couple
a couple of integers on stone while you're going up to the impure nage because you suddenly
are in a position when you've made a bunch of army, you kind of want to push, but now
you don't have siege, you only have one castle for trap production, you would want your army
protected under a castle forward and you don't have enough stone.
Yeah, absolutely.
And so when it comes to stone, it's a bit of a double-edged sword, right?
Because like when you do the 3 TC boom, like the very sharp boom, and then you want to rush
in pure ledge, sometimes, on an app like Arabia, you want to not take stone.
So a lot of players are in this mindset that, hey, stone is not always needed.
But then on a map like Redistat Fortress, you're on a 5 TC boom.
As Daniel said, you just got to get on that stone because, you know, a couple reasons.
The nail mentioned, you just need that extra castle, grab the map control, fight the
trevwars, but also you have so much res anyway, you have so much food, so much
wood, you don't really need to like, skip out on the stone.
You know that stone is just so important to be able to actually like contest different areas in the map and be able to
Trade with your opponent when it comes to that like castle we cast a situation
So yeah Knoff so far not on stone at all that could hurt him if he doesn't get on it at some point next few minutes
I would say
Yeah, also
One thing that I said yesterday. I'm going to repeat myself a bit
I feel like you should not be afraid of using the market and
And as I'm saying that, Locke is actually selling wood when he's floating over a thousand
extra food in the bank to go up to the next stage.
Yeah, maybe he's thinking, I want to keep that food because I'm about to spend it on
like half, but dude, 500 food can be sold for like what, 400 gold, that's a pretty
good deal.
But it seems to really want to stop by that food count.
But of course, as you can see, polls pulling ahead massively and risk collected there,
like 1500 extra research collected for the polls.
It's so cool to see actually.
And he's dropping his tables really early.
This is what we missed from Death Note. Ladies and gentlemen, this is how it's done. I hope
Death Note's in the chat watching. You make your boom, clip them to your ledge, right
away you gotta get your production set because you don't wanna miss a beat on this kind of
converging or converting the economy into a military lead. Fantastic. Moko, he's gonna
go for the night spam.
Yeah, but I think he took a page off of that notes book as well because I see the
siege workshops prepared now poles do have access to the siege drum what I
want for local to not forget is the Schlachter privileges the unique
technology that makes his night cheap he forgot it once talked about it earlier
it hasn't in research you cannot forget this one it's if you forget say you
could go for wing his are though sorry go ahead yeah and the thing is if he
He queues up 20 knights right now, he has the resources for them, maybe not a gold, but
if he queues up a bunch of knights and then researches it, those knights in the queue won't
be discounted.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's very true, so you gotta get that first, he's getting all the
tech, no he's getting all the tech, he's queuing knights, oh my god, Locust forgot the tech
too, just for the chat guys, this is crazy, this is crazy, he has a tech with the
poles, the unique tech and castage, the silver crown, it makes your knights cost 60% less
gold.
60% less gold, Loco has forgotten it again.
It's crazy, this is the reason you pick poles.
I can't believe he's forgotten it again, he's got 10 stables right to stand knights, normally
if you're able to afford a ton of them, but now, since he made a few and he can't
afford them, because if you've got that tech, moving on to Knoth, by the way, Knoth
is going to go for a crazy good composition with the Dravidians, he's going to go
with Elephant Archers and he's going to go for Halberd here, really good combo here.
And oh, Kat Brandt for Knopf, I started from the local, it's crazy.
I think Knopf had this build in mind last time as well, but he played against Kipchaks,
so he kind of changed his plan from going from Elephant Archers to Skirm to counter
the kit checks which was the correct decision perhaps in that situation.
But I don't think we've ever seen in this tournament Elephant Archers.
No, it's the first time and finally it's the first time we're also seeing the slouch of
privileges, the tech, the silver crown, thank god, local remembered that's in the discount
tonight's 60% gold, not the first batch, these guys he paid full price on but the next
batch coming out will get the discount which is huge.
First time for Elfin archers guys, take a look at this very beefy unit, very chunky, elite Elfin archer coming out, they look sick, they're a fantastic unit, really strong DPS backline, really tanky, this combo is insane for Knopf and honestly, if you're just doing Tav C-Dram, you cannot fight this head on, Locos have to raid.
Do you think Loco is going to be surprised? How do you think he's going to react to this?
Yes, a good question. Loco is most likely never seen an Elfmarcher in his life.
Or if he has, he probably never played against it maybe like once.
So he will be probably a little shocked, a little surprised and not know how to deal with it is my initial guess here.
He is still missing a lot of upgrades.
He's birthing plus two armor instead of the attack when you have range units.
You definitely want the attack first.
Honor is important to pick it up, but he even is missing the Castle Age attack upgrade, not to mention the Imperial Age one.
Yeah, a lot of attack upgrades are missing there. At least he's got Ballistics and Chemistry in the way, so he is working on his upgrades slowly.
Howbydeer is coming in as well. Very crucial tech.
And take a look at Loco, he's ignoring the army.
And that's a pretty good idea from Loco. He just wants to play his game, go for the push, and remember, you should have to kill the king.
Kings in the castle, you got a lot of cabinets, Lokos can make that happen, but Knoff is also
kind of just going for the push, but Knoff has got no siege, so I feel like Lokos's push
is way stronger here.
Yeah, exactly. I don't know, maybe we can get your perspective as a pro player about
this matchup, but I feel like, as Poles, you just have to use your mobility against
this composition, because your minions are slow.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think that's 100% the right call, and take a look at
Locos is diving in with the Cavaliers, it's huge, Seedram on the gates.
Meanwhile, Knoff is here with all of his army, no Siege, we're just here waving across
the gates.
Hello!
It's all we can do!
We can't do anything else.
Oh, and the King is forward, he's in the castle, the Seedrams are at the gates
and the Seedrams could jump straight, oh no actually I think they're just going
to go around and jump on the castle.
And Knoff has to make the call to go back, he's using the Elven Archers to
just hit a wall.
the best use of it. The Halves going back at the very least though. Siege, I'm walking
a little drunk but you gotta kind of raise her in onto this castle. Halvedere's finally
going back though. It's gonna be pretty good against the Cavs. King is still having a
cast. I don't like the elephants going back. Elephants are too slow and can't do too
much here. The Halves are gonna clean this up. We're going back boys. Give us
two years, we'll be there soon. The Halves are enough. I kind of agree. We
You just need to teach a front, teach a front, the armored upwards coming in, keep the elephant
archers forward.
I agree with you Danela, that's fantastic.
Going back is not what I call.
On top of that, he's missing husbandry on the elephant.
Oh no.
We're slow.
Oh my god.
Oh my god, these guys are really slow.
Uh, Habs, taking out the Sea Drem.
Sea Drem are going for that castle, that's a sensitive castle, that's where the King
is.
Okay, the raids from Loka have been insane, but Knoff is still at a decent
build counts. And he sells a lot of resources in the bank. So as long as he gets his economy
back on track here, he gets some wood in the bank. He's actually fine. Conoff is fine here.
Oh, but look at that castle drop.
I like it. Four-Billiger castle drop forward. We finally have the siege. But where are
the Elf archers doing it all the way back? We need them in the front again. We need
them in the front. Start marching.
This is such a strong force. I mean, a local probably by now knows that he's on a timer.
Look at all that we talked about. Oh my god.
He's going in. The secret passage. The secret passage. Look what's going in.
The raids are live. That's crazy. That's not insane.
You absolutely called it this coming. Oh, never mind.
Oh, the haps are coming in too though. That's crazy.
The cavalry will get trapped at least. Maybe it's a little bit of a trap.
He's happy with this but couple villages go down here castle in the front for Knoth. This is fantastic
I feel like blue now is ready to push in a big way as well
This is just such a huge force of nature from not where the elephants they're going
Back to local skates
Still no bracer still no attack still no husbandry, but maybe he's gonna remember about all those
Yeah, Knoff is actually getting the wrong armor for his units.
You don't need Tab armor for other archers, you need Archer armor.
He's just getting both just in case, but he really doesn't need that one.
But now Knoff has a death ball, and Knoff is the one attacking.
So I think Knoff is in a great position here.
Let's see how the blue player can manage this.
Razer coming in is remembering all the tech.
He's going for a Ruby Swordsman in the frontline.
This is fantastic.
We need Trebuchet's man.
We don't need more swordsmen.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely. He's almost 200 pop. It just needs to continue producing villages,
which he is, which is very important after you have been raided. It's important to keep
your villager numbers up because your economy is what takes you the long way in this game.
Yeah, no, absolutely. Get your book count back up. Fix your car. We've got a lot of
resources in the banks. We've got a little bit of room for error. But Knoff is getting
a lot of villagers now. Take a look at this. Why is the farmland here for Loco?
got tons of space at the back all the way here but making the making the farms
on the front I think was maybe not the best decision here he's getting punished
for it. It doesn't think farms in the front and stables in the back. Yeah it's so funny actually.
The exact door. Stables in the back, farms in the front. We get to have it the other way around.
Trebuchet is finally coming out though for some siege for Knoth. That's what he desperately needs.
He's gonna go in the Elf Archers with the King. King is safe in the back castle.
More waits for Loco at the same time. The Loco is playing the macro game
beautiful here. I swear look at the raids I mean Knoth right now has five
on food yes he has 1600 food in the bank but when your main unit is elephant
archers those are expensive in food yeah yeah because a lot of food but we're
down to 76 villagers the raids have really been heavy here but to be honest
Knoth raids have also been heavy like elephant archers just going in they're
picking up 100 tons of villagers and it's very hard to fight those guys
the Cavalier beat them if there's no halbs to be fair. So Cavalier, uh, assume there's no
halberd here. They can just come in and chop them up.
This, uh, this is insane. We have 77 eco, get into 73. They're just both killing each other's
base. They're not taking a direct engagement. They're just raiding each other to death,
but Noff is missing the siege, and I would like to see more elephants, uh, rams.
That ram is trying to ram the elephants ass, it's crazy, I've never seen that before.
Rams do 4 damage to a unit, but only like 2 after armor.
Alright, the rams, why is he switching to the castle here? That's fantastic.
Dude, this has been a bloodbath so far.
Literally, they're just non-stop fighting each other, but Loko, I feel like he's cleaning up all the elven archers.
Knoff has been raided to death, he's got no food in the bank, he can't make more helps.
Let alone more elven archers, then rams from Loko are coming in.
is clearing up the push from Knoff is crazy. This game is so good and it's it's
not over yet. I mean the pop is very much different. Yes both of their bases
suffered heavy losses but still 63 minutes from Knoff, 56 from local. Yeah.
Yeah this this the halves are back on the field at least. This is such a crazy
game. What a game one for the day. Day three of the Kings godly guys. The
It's been absolutely performing so far.
You don't want to fit the Habs head-on.
A lot more Habs coming in.
This is fantastic for our blue player here.
Can I look in a re-control of the middle area?
How do you feel about a couple of old books being mixed in in the composition here?
If local would have the food eco for it?
Because he has been suffered heavy losses in terms of farmers as well?
He hasn't been producing bagged villagers for a while?
situation right now. Yeah, for the time being that could be good enough. I'm
usually just generally worry about going scrims against Ravidians because
their scrims attack 25% faster. Yeah. Poles don't have the best scrims but right
now for the situation Locos best, best chance would be scrim issues. Yeah, I
also don't really like that castle. Yeah, that castle should be on the hill,
farms off the hill, but here we have the farms on the hill, and then we have the castle off
the hill.
But I will say, one of the best qualities of Knopf this game is that he kept up to production
of his units.
He got raided to death, he lost army after army, but Knopf just kept producing, and
now Loco, he just didn't really remake his farms.
He's on 31 farms which is quite low for the Poles.
He's only at 5 military right now, so despite having a good amount of villagers, no military
on the field means that Knopf can just walk in and just, you know, kind of clean
house.
What do you feel about Knopf's or how do you feel about Knopf's latest market purchase?
What did he do?
He bought 1800 food for 20 for 3k gold almost.
Oh my god.
No, that's terrible.
That's like selling your Lamborghini for a cheeseburger.
That's terrible.
I mean, I would do that, but like besides me, you know.
I have to just feel like that, you know.
Stop it.
You just really want that cheeseburger.
Bro, that's crazy.
That's like, normally it's the opposite.
You're saying all your food trying to get some extra gold guys gold is a limited resource food is it's plentiful usually
But I think that just speaks to the rates from local honestly
I think that speaks to the rates from local he killed all of the food economy
Knauf obviously Knauf is back to 50 farms and that food is not an issue
Actually ironically gold is the issue now, but you know the rates were heavy the rates were heavy
Yeah, maybe we come forward with another castle. He has so much stone in the bank
Nice either defensive castles or map control, especially when you're pushing like this
It feels like a
Castle on those golds in front of local space would be absolutely fantastic
Yeah
If you don't want to walk forward make a floor castle couple castles home castle here grab some space maybe castle here
Maybe cast on the right side. You got to spend your stone because stock buying stone is like unused potential unused defense or offense
100% agree with you Daniela and I love this push from profit
He's just going to go in.
Out of the Archer Halibut, he's got a few traps for the TCs.
I feel like Loco's living his last days right now.
Yeah, exactly.
Loco simply can't do anything else other than raiding, but raiding without siege won't kill
that thing.
And there's Halib's in defense.
Yeah, beautiful defense.
Good position on these Halib's.
So, Tinoff is actually gaming.
He is really, really good at Age of Empires, too, man.
Love to see his progress.
And he's going to go in with all his army now while defending with a little
a habit here keeping local at bay the king is running the king is running the
king is running to the corner ladies and gentlemen local scared for his life he was
being threatened by that elephant archer that was forward as well yeah not
still missing the last armor on those elite elephant archers they can just
dive in under the town centers under the castle more more freely but he also
So, it does have the unique technology which allows them to regenerate, so that's fantastic.
Oh, I love that. Yeah, it's a pretty good tech.
Cavalier always raiding through that little secret passage, by the way.
Knopf has been hard punished for not walling that secret passage.
Love to see these raids coming in from Locos still.
He's still trying, but take a look at this.
There's no defense for Locos farms.
Just a few halvediers would just do so much damage here.
The absolute real issue is that the 60 halvediers on the field right now from Knopf have no answer
from Loco.
Yeah.
He never actually got to any type of addition to counter that infantry.
Yeah.
Yeah, like what we're seeing from Loco is that he's really good at executing what
he knows, but he seems to be a little bit one dimensional.
In Ichimafar's 2, being 1 dimensional is good for some things, but it's also very bad for some things like he just never got a Habitur counter.
And Habitur, when you're playing a full cavalry strategy, is like the one thing you should be prepared to counter.
And Loko seems like he hasn't even thought about countering the Habiturs, which seems to be a deadly mistake that has really cost him this game.
I wish Yamato would hear you say this.
Yamato feels very strongly about half a year's countering Calvary, it's like a snail that
you just ignore and run away from it.
Which is true to Summix, but yeah, when you're actually being forced to take these direct
fights, you kinda have to counter them.
Yeah, here's the thing, Yamato's a loop daddy and he's also looping in the castle
age where you have a lot of time to run around.
impure lich is not a lot of looping to be done if the guy comes in with five
trebuchets and 20 halves you have to fight them head-on if I'm gonna take out
the trebs some loco trying to go for one last king's night maybe he had the
seed round but look at this the walls from Knopf the halvediers were there
Knopf very very impressive game to be honest he got pushed to the limit
local play a great game local play a great game he got pushed and the
king's making a run the king's making a run where's the king going loco's
I think you hit him with the IEUX and you go to this corner hit him with the IEUX and strategy
Right, but in that corner is going to run straight into the
table
We'll see what he's gonna do. He's running. He's on the move
We're on very low pop right now loco. We'll keep it on this king. There's really not much else going for loco
It's got one more seedram push
Maybe maybe there's some trebuchets on the trebuchets
some cavalry I think you can still make a snipe on that king but you need trebs
not siege ramps. A king is running to the middle of the map this is like the most
exposed king ever. Knopf can go treason and snipe him potentially, ramps on to the
wall but the habits are always there in time. True, I would say it's like 400 gold I think.
Yeah treason is 400 gold. Yeah you have to go for it. Yeah.
Unless I want to buy more food we'll see what Knopf does to that gold of course.
Maybe he wants another cheeseburger.
Maybe some fries, you know, he's got some options there.
Yeah, treason could come in, treason of course, attack that reveals the enemy king temporarily,
but it could be very good when you're just kind of ramming through the space.
Locos not resigning, which is completely fine.
In Reddissat Fortress, you could always make a king snipe, and by the way, he can just
sell his stone, make like two three trebuchets, and make a run for this king.
It's possible.
It's open down here, you bring in three trebs, knock the castle, come back with
the like out.
It could happen.
Oh, for Knoff he was thinking about going and putting a house there and he just misses those like-ups.
Anything to finally close that off?
What are we seeing here? Another Siege workshop here.
Does Loko know about the Trebuchet? Like, surely he knows about the Treb?
He's not making any, but I think the Treb is the one thing that can give him a chance to win this game.
Did someone tell him how to kill castles? Because no one told Death Note.
Are you serious?
Well, I saw a screenshot on the tournament discord yesterday when he said no one told me how to kill castles.
Oh my god, I missed that. Death Note doesn't do anything that someone doesn't tell him to do. It's so funny.
It's really hilarious. Nobody told me to make villagers. That was like the day one.
The day one is like, nobody told me how to fight with my army.
me. It's two jokes. He just needs to be taught everything, but yeah, maybe no one taught local
how to kill castles and how to make trebuchets and now he's going to lose his castle.
His officer certainly knows. Where's the king?
He's in the corner. What?
What is this village doing? No, continue. He doesn't know.
Wait, wait. Did he know? I don't think he knows. He's just chopping wood.
I think he's just chopping wood. This is crazy. He's in a blood bath.
It looks like temporarily he was looking for something, but I think now he's just going back to the wood line
This guy might go out of mission, but it's the IEX strategy
At the top he send the how the dears. He's like, hmm. He's not in that corner. Let me check this one, but
Yeah, I think you might be right. I think this how the dears going to the corner. I think it's crazy. I think nof is going in
Okay, we'll see how that plays out. Knopf is looking for the king in the corner
Of course, we'll see if he's managing to find that guy. I think he's going straight for it
I use and your strategy is being used in the term. It's still local has one last push. It's one last seed round
But that's a very very ambitious push at this point locals got like nothing
He's got zero zero zero GG well played he played that one to the bitter end though
You can't really blame him Knoth gets to win and really well played from trough. Honestly. I have to say
very very impressive performance Gigi in the chat guys local also with a great
strategy but just a little one-dimensional for my taste miss Daniella
yeah absolutely it feels also that for for this type of strategy if you miss your
timing you let Javidians get to this comp and I don't see how poles even fight
this comp effectively yeah it's a good point like okay let's take a look at
options here like you could go like skirmishers but then again Dravidians
have their own skirmishers that are better more armor faster firing you could
go for like maybe obelisk it could be a decent option bomber cannons decent for
poles as well maybe heavy scorpions we get those no no heavy scorpions yeah
maybe like storms are obelisk but you really don't have the most amount of
options as poles so I think local tried his best given the circumstances and
He had a good run. He did raid a lot of Knopf's economy, but Knopf I think his resilience and his recovery was the way to come back in this game.
Yeah, really well played from Knopf. Nice way to get back on track with the villagers as well.
I think the local did very well was rating his entire base look at that 200 bills
Well, and in the end in not favor of course he killed all of locals economy, but even in the early game
Local was doing a fantastic job rating left and right and not was just keeping his cool replacing his losses
Just doing his thing and look at them. Yeah, like local 70 military. It's great
Yeah, Loko plays the last like the first bunch of Cavalier first bunch of villagers
But as the raiding kept getting heavier and heavier
He just kind of stumbled a bit, you know behind and you know all credit to Loko as well
Like he is punching a little bit above his elo here
So we'll see what he can do for the next match, but keep in mind
Loko's an Arabia specialist. All right. We saw him playing as Otofu
He has a really good strategy on a raid because the infantry opening with the Romans or the Japanese and he goes for the
Rampush maybe some scorpions. He's really really good at the infantry seat
So it's look it's locals home map for this next game, and we'll see what you can do
Let me just quickly show you guys that the brackets here
Because we got a lot of guys coming in now
Knopf versus local is the match for casting right now
This is the last loser bracket best of three round
Afterwards we're gonna hop into the main event of the day, which is the best of five rounds
We got a lot of really cool matchups after this match. It's the top eight by the way
So local and Knopf are fighting for a spot in the top eight of the tournament
We started with 20 streamers and I'm going to be down to the final eighth very shortly.
It's a crazy tournament and I hope you guys are having a great weekend.
It's a good time to enjoy some major vampires too.
Yeah, I'm looking really much forward to the next matchup.
It is going to be Arabia, just like you said.
Now I'm curious from what I've seen enough is the type of player that usually goes for
Cavalry, maybe Franks, that probably will be his pick.
I feel like Cavalry, if you're set up on that mentality, you know, I'm gonna go make scouts
in tonight's gonna overwhelm my opponent with the raids and everything, can have a big,
big issue playing against an infantry push of that sword that you were describing earlier.
Yeah, I have to say, I just don't feel like Cav has really been performing today,
Honestly, like I think or not today but in general obviously they lost one match today
But I'm not gonna make a conclusion out of that but in general in the tournament
Cavalry has not been the best unit class the best unit class has actually been infantry believe it or not
Infantry has performed so freaking well. I think archers did okay nice of doing okay, but like most games are won through infantry
Sorry, we've had a little technical difficulty here
I'm gonna just get back into this game right away, and then we can hop in they've started the next game
to be Arabia and we'll break it down for you guys. Let's do it.
Hoping into the game right about now.
Fantastic, here we go.
Oh, romance Mongols.
I like the Mongols pick. We've seen this match before. We're going to fix the cameras here real quick as we just go about things.
But yeah, Knopf versus Loco here. Let's see how it goes.
Knopf in the blue and Loco in the red. That should do the cameras beautifully. There we go.
Let's take a look at how this plays out.
So Knopf playing in blue as the Mongols and it's going to be a very spicy pick.
We've actually seen this matchup I think earlier.
I don't know if Tofu was Mongols.
I think he was.
Yeah, I think we saw Mongols versus Romans in the last local matchup.
She played against Tofu.
Tofu rocked the Mongols as well.
Local force won that match.
He's back with the Romans, but this time up against Knopf was up 200 Elohi on paper.
Let's see what Locke can bring to the table though.
He is on his trusty Romans.
He loves to play the infantry.
The Mongols from Jof, I haven't seen him play it too much, but I think I did a coaching session
with him.
So he played it in the ranked ladder race.
I know he knows the sip, which is good.
I don't think we've had any mirror matches so far, did we?
I don't think so.
No, despite it being possible, we don't have a single mirror match, which is crazy.
Because I would expect a megyar mirror.
Megyar has been crazy much picked by all of the players, all of the participants.
I could have sworn we're going to see at least one so far and we didn't
We might see a Roman mirror if I had to guess
Honestly, I think Roman mirror could definitely come to be
Because you have a lot of Roman pickers
Magger mirror could happen
But like if you think about who's picking Maggers right now, it's like Sing Sing
Who else? Like maybe Grubby's played a little bit of Maggers but not much more than that I feel
Yeah, and Sing Sing is actually picking Maggers to play them quite standard
Yeah, yeah. We have like a couple of different approaches to the Maggars.
What do you see?
Loco, no!
Ah, not the best boiler here.
Loco may be crumbling under the pressure.
Pressure from a match point. Remember, this is a loser bracket matchup.
So whoever loses here is out of the tournament.
And Loco...
With a failed boiler, it's not the worst though. It's okay.
It is acceptable.
But Knopf, in comparison, very nice Mongo boiler. Remember, Mongols eat their hunts much quicker?
And we have some deer on the front. I'd love to see local, sorry, Knopf just pushing those deer as the mongol. Definitely worth going for that.
Absolutely, I agree. Actually, I've seen that happen a lot, is that they garrisoned a tiny bit too early and either the boar wants to go back.
Because the vill that aggroed it is not there anymore to chase. Or, like it happened in locals case,
The next villagers just pops out right out of the TC and it blocks the board so he can't chase it anymore and the
TC killed it. Yeah
What's funny is that we had Lewis casting loco yesterday and he's talked about how he had a whole session teaching loco how to learn
Bors and
Apparently it's a really big problem for loco. He's gotten much better according to what Lewis has said
But still having some trouble here. I had a chatter asked me how bad is that border? It's very bad
So, okay, there's a little bit of scout action but nothing too crazy
So if you just consider it like you have a lot of walking time two tiles of walking time from ten villagers and every time they walk that it's like
Three resources per villager that's just gone. It's just three villagers worth of three resources worth of time
That's gone if they walk it twice with two villagers you're down 60 resources in the early game. That's pretty bad
So it's not game losing. It's not like a huge huge deal, but it is pretty bad when it comes to dark age efficiency
Yeah, just like it says, especially in Dark Age, all of these things might seem insignificant,
but the Dark Age is what sets you up your entire game plan.
So it's only going to get...
The earlier you have this inefficiency, basically the worse it is because it's a bigger percentage of your economy.
When RTS like snowballs are disadvantageous like it snowballs the advantages like if you make a mistake
You're gonna feel that mistake for the next transition for the next transition
So in general you want to play as perfectly as possible as the the main idea
When it comes to early game and you know just build other developments. Knopf by the way is on gold
I have no idea what he's doing on gold here now
He could go for some scouts as a general
Mungo opener because he's on gold. He's definitely not doing that. It's also not a fast castle
So this can be Minna Arms and it can be Archers.
Nothing else makes sense with the gold pickup here from Knopf.
He's trying to lure a deer.
He's got no food in another town center.
It's looking a little messy for Knopf as well, to be fair here.
Yeah, oh no.
I hate when huntables do that.
Yeah, they're sticking to the woodlands and it's impossible to get them off.
It's so annoying.
A little bit of walling.
So it looks like it's going to be walling in Archers from Knopf.
archer open to counter the infantry from loco so here's the thing loco has been
very predictable with the infantry opening it's okay to be predictable but it has
its disadvantages of course if one I can counter you loco loco should lose a
scout yeah it's not Sam Jason beautiful Knauf will kill the scout feudal
scout gets faster and stronger so loco cannot even run away from this it's
got the infantry maybe you can survive if you run back to the militia but
right now infantry from loco has tried and tested Roman infantry might save a
scout here. Very good micro from Noff, yeah, just manages to sneak away. I gotta say, generally
from watching local play in the previous series and watching him play today, to me it comes
as nervous. Oh yeah. There are some slip-ups that I haven't seen in the previous Dark Ages
for now, like the man at times is a tiny bit late, 47 seconds idle TC time, that's one
Ville worth of idling your TC, so definitely some things went a tiny bit wrong there.
Yeah, but even still he's still punching at a decent time here despite the inefficiencies.
Will loses Scout if he's not careful though, but overall he's doing okay to start off
this early game.
He's not pushing off the berries, that's the only food income for our Mungo player.
It's a big deal to get pushed off various right now and great micro where control, didn't
really eat the TC, just took a few hits but it's fine.
Locals should play towards that armor with the Romans, there it is, the Blacksmiths coming
up.
We've seen this time and time again.
If you've watched any Kings Gauntlet you know about the Romans and their armor.
Knoff is going to be on archers though, five archers in the queue.
Now, when it comes to against Roman infantry you need clutching, so I want to see that
Blacksmith come through for Knoff as soon as possible.
I also like that he is sitting a couple of farms because even with the blacksmith he could
not have afforded a hundred food and he's not producing verges at the moment.
Like you said, being pushed off of various went a bit terrible for him.
He has little to no food income.
Yeah, absolutely.
You've got to get your food set up.
He's recognizing that.
It's actually great on Knopf, really well played.
It shows a deep understanding of this early game from Knopf.
He makes a few farms, then he makes the blacksmith really, really smart.
If he did the blacksmith first, he wouldn't be able to make villagers, let alone pick
up that fletching technology that's so crucial.
Loco does have the armor.
Six-minute arms now.
He's brought three more, just flashing back to Loco's economy, and he's setting
up some farms.
He's doing well back here, and he's bringing in six-minute arms now to try to find
a way in through Knopf's base, but Knopf has the full wall so far, minus the front.
It's playing pretty well
I've seen
H.R.O.C. game from yesterday and H.R.O.C. beat himself up so badly for not coming forward with a tower
Yeah, I
Honestly would like to see that more
Yeah, that tower play especially when you scouted that that's Knoth's only woodline
I think that could panic him quite a bit yeah
I think the only players that have really experimented with towers forward is maybe like some of like grubby
I don't think anyone else has that tried out the towers forward
But it's such a good play right now to go for it like Knoth only has this woodland take a look at his map
This one's exposed this one's very exposed if local come forward four villagers tower behind here
Pressures the wood line that could be very very solid, but I just don't think he's gonna think about that
He's gonna go for the more safe approach the more planned approach
Which just to wall up his base try to play towards castles also fair, but I do agree Daniela a little bit more like a diverse opinion
Sorry diverse strategy could be good and I use in a saying I use it also up for four towers. I'm sorry grubby and I use
How can I disrespect the goat like that? Why bad brother?
Also
local
He is walling his base in an egg shape that I don't like the back wall hair. I don't
Oh, yeah, she is better
He does have a hole in between the houses in front of his gold. I'm not sure he he noticed that he scout went through there
He's a bonus scouts, sorry, but I don't think local noticed it
Yeah, quickly show the hole in a second, but show that an office
using the archers very well in defense has a quite attack right now so oh hole here oh my goodness
exactly those archers could just jam in there ah the starcraft the warcraft players none of these
players know how to wall base it's crazy there's a huge hole here it's it's quite an obvious one but
it's obvious to us maybe the obvious the local has got a thousand things going on
it's going to go from a defensive range maybe some stirmishers planned but if the archers go
straight in through that wall through that hole it's disaster for local local seize it please
some of you see it I mean the man turns one in the weapons are in your base they
have to go he does spot it can office going straight through there so that's
such an important wall off from from loco and we'll see the wall up down bottom
loco sees the army coming in you got a wall a little faster though no like this
is like taking our time here but you see if their reaction from this place I
wouldn't expect this from someone that literally just started to play four
weeks ago. Knopf was going with his archers there, he scouted, immediately pulled the
archers away. Okay, I'm going for the palisade because that's weaker.
Yeah, it's so smart. Like, you saw a hole, okay, it's there, okay, it's walled, no problem,
go down here, hit the palisade, beautiful, he's enforcing the defensive tower, the locus
villagers all over the place by the way, he's not able to really get those walls
down. Archers will be coming in, we have some skirmishers, but the skirmishers are
late, no upgrades on the skirms either. Guys, these archers can do a lot of damage,
around the goal but no town in the wood it's open oh my goodness this could be
really bad for local here. Oh both of the wood lines could be incredibly
pressured soon. Yep. Oh that's straight up open he's going straight for them. Yeah
we have some inner arms this is defendable that villager not so much
though. Yeah. No not the... What? We just walked past the villager Knopf the
Merciful doesn't kill the villager goes for the army. This is crazy
Good micro that's a big
Archer number
And the legit goes down no villager goes down you're asking for it honestly
It's not still merciful, but he was asking for it. What can you do bro? What could you do?
Knopf get pressure here forcing the flushing out of local coffins almost up to castage as well by the way
So behind this vehicle castage you go crossbows
Maybe even a search tonight has been a great position with the Mongols here.
I need Loco to somehow get the castle edge. I think it's the only chance he has to win this game.
He's going for the market. See what Loco can do to try to get up to the next age here.
I like how active Malf is with his military. He's just going to move them behind the wood line.
There are scrims in defense, but the scrims, if they stay in that position, won't be able to defend those wheels too much.
much. He's still gonna cause idle time. Yeah, see, now Loco's panicking and he's
moving his entire wood line back and forth. Yeah, it's getting away from that, like, but
this is good though. This is good from Loco, like, I like they just hit the wood on this
side. What are you seeing, Danila? What are you seeing? Oh, I'm seeing Noth going for a
second range and a stable. That tells me he's planning on maybe going
Cav Archers. Could be Cav Archers. Could also be, yeah, he's not making more
archers so it could be cab archers for sure which is a good transition here great
against the Romans. I was just surprised I don't think I've ever seen him play
cab archers. Oh okay yeah actually no I've seen him play I did a coaching with him
he did cab archers but he lost the game so let's see maybe maybe not the best
memories there but hopefully he can still play them well. He did well with them
to be fair it wasn't the cab archers fault we lost it wasn't my fault
either or mind you guys oh great microphone cloth wow what archer steps the
villager and gets out that's insane bro that's so insane
hera snipe in the chat quick quick hera snipe in the chat little bill snipe he
gets out like nothing even happened that was crazy meanwhile attack on the left
could I be so high level it's fantastic I'm so impressed right now like a local
is the struggling right now yeah he's up to the next stage but woodlands
moving villagers not enough on food I feel like I feel like also local doesn't
really plan on a transition he has like his okay longswords plus siege forward
plan but right now he's kind of forced on staying in a defensive position yeah
absolutely I think local and like dude Knopf always just comes in steps a
unit just gets out he's so good with the micro he doesn't overdo it which I
like as well. Local has the Skirmishers, but he's not really able to use them. See, he's
gonna probably go Elite Skirmisher plus Longsword, something like that in the Castle Age. But
his economy is quite messy. Look at this Crossbow upgrade coming in. No botkin yet, but Knoff
is certainly going for a lot of pressure. It's actually a two stable place, so it's
not Cavarchers. It's Crossbow Incinites. Also a good option. A couple camels for
no reason though, okay?
I think he misclicked, he opened straight up to camels right away, I think that was a misclicked probably, he did change to Knights, but yeah.
Also confusing your opponent, it's a good strategy.
Yeah, like, Loco seems like, oh shit, I can't go Knights. Your force seems to think Exo, which is good.
Kind of funny, using these camels. I mean, it's still a decent unit, it's not horrible, but it is terrible, so gotta keep that in mind.
that in mind long-sword upgrade for loco and lots of it's pretty good big a big
difference it's not horrible but it is there is a difference actually if you
watch any death note coaching you know there is a huge difference between them
alright alright I would like to see how aggressive not will continue with his
gameplay what his plan his plan is to put a second to see which I don't mind
I'm always a big fan of going Siege Forward when you're in a pushing position like this.
Yeah, I mean Siege Forward could be good, but at the same time, you're already playing so much with your army.
Adding in those town centers is just such a safe way to play.
And if anything, this show is disciplined from top.
This shows that he's not in a rush to end the game.
He's not like playing a strategy where he has to win on the certain timing push.
He's playing Age of Empires too.
He's playing good timings, good micro, good macro, he's playing a balanced approach, and
I think that shows that he's got a good future ahead of him to be fair here, and Knoff has
a hard bracket ahead of him, but so far so good, he's making good work of loco.
Loco's playing well, but Knoff is definitely outplaying him in many aspects of the game
right now.
Like we said earlier, the loser of this game is out of the tournament, he's eliminated.
The winner is going to be facing H.R.O.C.E actually.
Big A in the house.
Okay, that's a tough round.
H.R.O.C.E's been playing really well to prepare much to my disapproval, but he's playing well.
I'd love to sit here and say that he's not, but he is.
Next versus Long Sword fight, we'll engage with down here.
The Long Swords are pushing this back.
They only have one armor, but there's the Long Swords plus two armors coming in
as I speak and requires for extra speed on them that I like it's a very important
upgrade especially for the infantry which is considered a slow unit generally in
the game. Yeah we are seeing the forward siege that we talked about earlier it's
not quite that timing push with the siege but it is a very nice way to put on
put on some more pressure in this late castlage. I think what Knauf wants to
do here is just establish his economy so it feels safe and then I just got a
little bit extra rest to play with to go for the push. Boku down here also
So sneaking towards each of his own, maybe thinking about getting to a counter attack,
syncing for the ram, this is what he always goes for, ram longsword.
It's crazy that he got pushed off from this timing push, but he's going to go back to it
when he can, so Loco is dedicated and he's disciplined.
He's always going to go for that same push that he planned.
It's kind of crazy to see that.
I like it, honestly.
I like that idea from Loco.
You know what I like?
The fact that he is not really going forward with the push, like he recognizes that
Okay, this might be an issue. Let me deal with this first and I think that Ram is gonna go for this workshop
Yeah, dude local's not out of this game at all like he's down a lot of villagers, but his arm is quite solid
It's just I don't know how strong these nights will be for Knoth. He's got one armor upgrade on the no bloodline
So they're decent, but this magina could make a
huge shot here. Oh my goodness. Oh
The scrims are downhill and trapped
the next just to your house the swordsman got got chased got busy chasing three
archers here but not the best idea with the swordsman he had to kind of defend
your skirmishers I feel like Locos armies and now a lot weaker that was a
bad two minutes for mr. Locos the ram is passing by the manganale what are we
even seeing here it's kind of a mess on the screen thing is and now what it
would be important from local to recognize on he is the rangers are are
out there's nothing stepping your monks monks could get some very valuable
conversions and there's actually a monastery up next to his gold yeah gonna
get a couple of months on the field yeah a few monks I wouldn't even mind
pikemen I think anything that gets you a push live in the next three
minutes is the way to go guys if you don't have a push for local you don't
have a game to play you've got 40 villagers of course he didn't know
but you can imagine that Knopf has a much better economy. Knopf on that 3TC boom with Mongols.
Mongol late game would destroy Roman late game or especially a fragile Roman late game that
Locos playing towards. So Knopf is in a great position. Locals has to make something happen
quick within the next few minutes. Remember no king to snipe. We need a legitimate push
in the next few minutes or else he's out of the tournament. Not a great position from him
Let's see what he can do.
I could see a world where Locos is double goal comp, he's his crossbowman, his his knight
is like okay no way he's adding eco behind this, he's added a lot of army, but yeah
actually Nof did add a second to see he's at 93 villagers, 50 more eco than Locorino.
Yeah it's such a massive economy advantage and I think Knopf is using that beautiful
He's like not fighting fights that are risky. I really like guys. Oh speaking of which
I mean maybe this one maybe the riskier play he's done maybe got us a trap actually
Like curse the commentator there. He's got himself trapped with seven nights ladies and gents
But before that he was not taking risky fights
Maybe that one. Yeah a little bit out there. I mean sure and nights are in the back
He's gonna lose them in the meantime the manganelle killed
locals entire woodline and there's a new wave of military. The difference in
economy right now for Knopf is absolutely insane and what's that gonna do?
Well just make him able to replace his losses instantly basically. Yeah. A lot
of knights in the field here. Beautiful place so far from Knopf. Lost those
ones that went in though so that was definitely a misplay but it's not one
you can't recover from. Remember seven knights are important but when you
got a hundred villagers you can usually replace those. I can go for another raid. I do want to see more
upgrades on these knights though. No bloodlines, no armor, no attack. I'm missing a lot of really
important upgrades on these knights and I feel like it would really help them out to pick those up
at some point. Raids are just going crazy and they're going at the top. There's almost an
over chop. There's a tree with 20 wood left that she's chopping. So for the knights hitting a
house. Some engagements on the front. Locals have another Magano. The siege
person has really not been the most successful. He got some kills with the
Magano over the tree line, but I think he's crazy behind that. Local with another
conversion. These conversions are really keeping him in the game. Yeah, especially
because then he's sending the converted knights to raid those
villagers that were forwarded. It's actually quite funny. Yeah, getting a lot of
value from those converted knights. Definitely some reinforcements here.
And by the way, the chat's getting into it, but we have a little bit of a
Warcraft vs Starcraft matchup here by the way, local representing Starcraft and off representing Warcraft of course
So the chat can get into on which RTS is the more more elite player player base, but you know
I don't know if this this match gets the conclusion drawn
But something to talk about at the very least Warcraft players have been doing well this tournament. That's for sure
And Balkan arrow coming in as long way
three brand new archer rangers
But now I actually have plus two on the cavalry as well, so a tiny bit all over the place.
Upgrades for Knoth. I don't necessarily like that because I feel like you don't really want to invest at this point of the game
in stuff that you're not going to use. You want to go up with those resources in the bank.
Yeah, I agree, but he's going to go with the four castles and maybe just spam some military until you get that one up.
You get that one up. Huge Magano shot on the nose of those longswordsmen.
Another one hits the longsword head on as well.
This is looking good for Knop. That Magano's getting so many kills at the back.
It's already at five kills.
But two conversions for Loco.
Loco could turn this around. Loco's winning the fight.
That castle might be a huge blunder.
Oh my goodness. Knop had a huge lead.
He's double the vilplop. He goes for a disaster castle.
A doubt castle.
Loco needed this. Loco's got so much armor in the field.
He deletes it. Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Hi, it was at 70% he lost so much stone with that.
That's crazy Knoth with a huge blunder! No way!
You don't delete that, you don't delete that. He has resources in the bank for days.
He could have messed, tripled the amount of military that local has on the field right now
and just swing the fight back, had to be patient, and then finish the castle later.
100% agree, you can always sneak 10 bills around and finish it, but deleting that castle right away
Not the right call from Knoth.
Loco, it has a death ball cooking up! He's got 44 military!
I can't believe what I'm seeing here! He's got the ram!
He's got a lot of military monks, longswords, skirmishers.
Everything's coming in for the push! And Loco's going for it!
Dude, this is crazy! This game should be completely over, but Knoth has kind of thrown it!
It should be. We went from, okay, there's so freaking many
Ville's advantage for Knoff, but I'm looking at the military and it's 50 to 17.
At this level, Daniella, at this level, military can be way better than an economic lead.
Yeah.
Because you just push, you push, the other guy panics, but Knoff, okay, gonna get involved
with the villagers.
He's gonna snipe that batting ram, that's pretty good for him.
No siege means he won't lose town center.
The next ram is already on its way, the local's very disciplined in bringing in that siege.
Guys, I can't believe that we have some late, uh, Castle Age drama here.
Kroff is almost up to imp!
We talked about this, Daniela, he could just go up to imp if he wants to really secure this game,
but now there's no time it feels.
He needs more military on the field, the ram is coming in, local, let's go for the push!
You can't go right now, you can't go to imp.
If you waste all of your resources in the bank, you're dead.
You have nothing against all of this, and look at local's resources.
Local had a bunch of stuff.
He just killed more ramps, scorpions forward, more longswords, this is his time, his time window to push and
Composited damage that he took the entire game until now.
Hey, dude, the momentum stream we're seeing is like nothing before. If this game goes local's way, this is the biggest comeback of the tournament so far.
I can't believe what we're seeing here. Local is just going crazy. Look at that.
He's got tons of swordsmen, 12 swordsmen at home. If he spots those, dude, if he spots those, that's a huge force.
And oh my goodness cloth them another castle at home
This time in a safe location kind of but Floco spots that which he will he could try to die
Is he's the castle local has the scorpion's he's got a lot of swordsmen in the queue
Ram is there close by as well. Ram is actually taking the ranges scorpions
Okay, so it has to not have a ballistics, but it doesn't matter because here come the
The scurns as well this could go
I think he gets it and he needs this one Knopf could hold with that castle to score switch
local has a score lead but only temporary because the castle is up and very very beautiful
holds from Knopf okay it's not another disaster dude well freaking play from local he had
a real shot at that great great play from local to really turn the tide of the engagements
there punish Knopf that forward cast of Knopf though good job recovering but I mean
this economy not not nearly as clean as it could be now
absolutely and i'm telling you here are not this panicking right now not it is
just like
clicking on all of his production buildings and just producing it he has
a four-random scout in there
in the queue
he doesn't even he doesn't care like he's okay i just want to deal with this
i just want military to push us back but he's also taking bad fights he
sent them one by one
And the small groups of military are eaten alive by those longswords.
Yeah, like, Loco has less army.
Oh, sorry, less economy, excuse me, he's got more army.
And with that more army, he's actually taking better trades.
I wouldn't be surprised if Loco is gonna continue massing up a death ball,
and he can go for a huge push very soon.
What a fantastic game, too, though, between these two players.
Absolutely loving every minute of it.
This game has been absolutely insane.
Knopf does take a look at his resources and puts a farming to see in the back of his base.
He still needs to replace the losses from his main farms.
He has 51 on wood. Just pull half of them, send them back to farms.
Yeah, yeah, take the vegetables off wood, farm at the back.
You have a lot of space to do that.
Knopf is just trying to survive.
Loco, I thought there was a Loco town center.
Knopf town center, okay.
Knopf town center back in the front.
Loco's trying to massive a ram push again and see if he can take out that castle.
I think Loco needs to take a lesson from Yamato and loop around.
Going for that castle head on is suicide in my opinion and he's gonna try it though.
He's gonna try it. This is a dual-die play from Loco.
Is this enough to push the castle? What do you guys think chat?
Is this good enough or not? Three rams with swordsman inside.
One of them goes down already. I'm not sure.
Yeah, he needed more rams. He's sending more rams.
Actually, Vils trying to get an engagement, going down to the longswords.
Knopf is kind of stabilizing his eco behind all of this.
And I would like a couple of Mengedai from the castle.
I don't know if he remembers, but the Mengedai actually have bonus damage against siege.
So a couple of Mengedai behind his castle, shooting at those rams
could do some bonus damage to those rams.
Yeah, Mengedai would definitely be the right call.
But I think either way, Manga Dye or not, Loco's lost his entire push.
Ah guys, it was a great push.
The Starcraft community very well represented by Loco.
He made you guys proud no doubt, but now it's all Knoff with some raids at the back.
The push is cleared and Knoff recovered beautifully.
Like we saw in that first game, Knoff led that recovery and the GG well played is dropped.
Loco drops out of the tournament, but guys GG well played in the chat for Knoff.
a great recovery from a disastrous forward castle, but the guy can play and the guy can continue fighting.
Love to see that we had the farmland set up such an entertaining and exciting first set of the day.
It's 2-0, but my god, were these guys evenly matched.
I was trying to say it in the end, but before anyone says anything about Locust's performance,
I think he played fan-freaking-tastic this set.
And I really, really think he had a great tournament.
He played above his elo of 1200 right now, closer to something like a 1400.
I also think Kroff played above his elo. Both players definitely played well here.
Honestly, continuing on that note, I think... I don't know, maybe I'm just super hyped up about
this tournament, but I feel like all the participants are. I think Sing is, I think...
Noff is, like you said, I think Death Note is. Death Note being several hundred
Elo away from his opponents and playing at their level was crazy so so the local
this didn't feel like a 200 Elo gap and just like you said local played a
fantastic tournament so far and what I admire the most about his playstyle is
you know that fighting spirit you know and not giving up yeah he played to
the end you know yeah exactly exactly and I love to see that yeah and he
didn't just play to the end and like do things that wouldn't work like
Like, Loco really gave a good shot at winning this game with that last round, which of course
maybe rushed it to go for the castle, but at the same time, Knoff, didn't have more villagers.
You kind of have to rush it.
But Loco, I really thought for a second there that he can win this game.
So he really well played.
Guys, he's got an 0-7 in the chat for Loco.
He's out of the tournament.
He drops out as just around before top eight.
So 0-7 in the chat salutes to Mr. Loco.
He did a great job.
Loco, thank you so much for participating in the tournament.
I'm actually really proud of his performance.
good guy and he brought his best to the field. Daniela, thank you so much for casting with
me today. I hope we'll see you tomorrow for one more cast as well for the tournament. Great
job and thank you for joining us. Absolutely. Thank you so much once again for having me.
I'm here available. Have a fantastic rest of the day with the rest of the sets. Once
again, great, great tournament, Hera. Thank you so much once again for putting it together.
And yeah, see you around.
Take it easy.
Have a good one.
You too.
Bye-bye.
Bye, Chad.
All right, guys.
That is Daniella.
If you guys want to see more from her, she is a caster in the scene.
She's also a pretty solid 81-parts 2 player in her own right.
She does a lot of content around the AW2 community.
So check her out on Twitch.
Daniella, you guys can find her there and show her some love.
Maybe a shout out on the Twitch stream as well for her channel.
Definitely check her out.
She does a good job casting.
Take a look at her racket, guys.
is updating this in real time. At least I hope so. Let's get a refresh here.
That was a set that was a fake set for today. That was the last set that should
have been played yesterday. Today has officially started guys. Welcome into the
Saturday Sunday of the Kings Gauntlet. We have the loser bracket round three.
A best of five round. Now we're in the best of five stages which means first
one to three points and we have the first set that's gonna start. I think
it's gonna be Wagamama versus Synxing. A Dota 2 matchup. These guys played
Dota 2 competitively on the same team. And the Waga Mama against Singsing is such an entertaining
matchup. They're both really good friends. It's Dota vs Dota. We have Loco in the chat
saying, DDs that tried my best. Loco, you did such a good job, man. Honestly, really
well done today. You did a good job. You did your best. And you should be proud
of your performance, man. You took out some killers. You took out Tofu. You had
a decent matchup against Lama in the first round as well. So, Loco, no shame in
dropping out. Cronoff definitely played really well here.
A local will be casting the next set. Let me just get the camera set up and then
we can bring him in and kind of talk a little bit of what's going on over the
next over the next series here. We're gonna just hang up the cams here. I'm
waiting for Wagamama's camera by the way. Wagamama, if you're listening, we need
your camera. We have things in here. We're gonna put things in to the
boxes. There we go. I don't know where the blue boxes went.
Oh wait, no that's not the right one.
Yeah.
Just like this.
Anyone else that was casting when I was down?
I don't know if you're casting actually, you're just in general.
Wait, you might not be casting actually, I have no idea.
Are you since casting the next set?
No, you're not casting.
Join us though, local, join us.
Come on in, local.
Let me move, let's move local into the main room.
You can just talk a little bit while we get ready for the next set.
Give your final words for the guys.
So what's up man, how'd you enjoy the tournaments and the GG's well played bro?
Yo that was really fun, yeah I had a good time, that final game felt like I was so dead
early on already and then it got pretty close I think in the end but it was a good time.
Yeah, I think you had a really good shot at winning that last one, the push was so
live, obviously I think you could not play a great game like overall it was a hard
compared to a fight against but I think you had like really good chances both games
And especially that first game was a bloodbath, but I try to get your take on it.
How did you enjoy the King's Gallant as a whole?
Hope you had a good time playing it.
How did you enjoy the ladder race, etc.?
Dude, I had a great time.
I started playing AOE 2 like three weeks ago or so.
I played it a tiny bit as a kid, but I'd never really given it a proper shot.
I tried HMMPars 4 when that first came out, then I played that for like 100 hours,
but I never really enjoyed it as much.
Yeah.
AOE 2 has been a banger, man.
I'm actually planning on keeping the elo coming, I want to continue climbing.
I want to see how far I can go with probably Arabia only and mostly Medetarm rushes.
I want to see how far I can climb.
No, that's awesome to hear.
I'm sure so many people from the AV2 community are so happy to hear that and will continue
supporting your journey.
That's really why we do these tournaments, to introduce AV2 to a bunch of different
people, a bunch of different communities.
I'm just getting word that the game has started.
I told them to wait for me, but they didn't.
So, Loco, we'll let you go now, but thank you so much for coming on then.
All right, no worries about it. Take care guys.
Have a good one. Let's look at everyone. Thank you so much, Loco, once again for everything he's done for the events.
Wagon, Sing Sing, the Dota players don't listen at all by the way.
Take no difficulty, I'll just restart the match and we're going to have Ai-Uksin I think for this next gasp, which is fantastic.
Let's go ahead and get Ai-Uksin in here while I set up the next game.
Yo-yo!
Yo, Ai-Uksin, good to hear from you, bro. Hop into this game in just a second.
Uh, what about you, Xen, this is you, meh.
And good to be here, thank you for having me again.
Yeah, for sure, you can't get enough of you, this time it's going to be a best of five, by the way, for the first time ever, guys.
Uh, and it's going to be between the two Dota players, what do you make of this matchup, I Xen?
Uh, you're one that, you know, talked to Waga a bunch, I think, earlier, and you kind of know a little bit more of what Waga's capable of, you also played against Xenxing.
So what do you make of this matchup here? Two Dota 2, X-Pros going at it, but before you give me your thoughts just get some energy in the chat, guys.
The first best of five of the King's Gauntlet, Wageverse and Sing Sing, a crazy good matchup, and Game 1, Rediside Fortress here.
Aiuksin, talk me through the players now.
Before I jump into that, I would really love to go through the basics of the statistics on this screen to really give an understanding to everyone watching who is getting advantage,
especially once the skirmish is going to be over, once the skirmish is starting.
If you don't mind.
Oh, for sure, go ahead.
Okay, let's start with the villager count.
Can you please show us the villagers?
Guys, this is the economy.
This is with this number, you fight in Age of Empires too.
In the previous game, we've seen Knoth having double the army,
double the villagers, and he was able to bounce back quite easily.
Now in the bottom right you have idle TC time and that represents idle time for when the TC
was not producing villagers and during the skirmishes it's very easy to forget about it and
if the enemy doesn't despite you winning fights you are going down and the last very important
metric is villager efficiency in the last minute it's very very at the bottom right
and you can pay attention at these numbers to see how they change once, let's say, aggressive rush
from the archers or men at arms will be happening in the games to come. And that's it. That's it for the
introducing of the interface. I like it. That's good. I think the chat was taking notes. They
were studying up there. I saw a few guys with the desk out and taking those notes and so it's
always good. We have a lot of new guys watching, so definitely good to explain some of the
things on the screen. I see actually really useful. So the guy first time chat, I used
it and you've helped at least one person in the chat, but I'm sure you helped many, many
more actually. We have a lot of people that are new to spectating Age of Empires, but
yeah, excellent statistics. Remember guys, economy is just as important as military
in Age of Empires 2 and we see the kings about to have a meetup potentially at the
top, but they're just kind of scouting in this early game. Remember if you lose
the king, you lose the game, but in the early game there's no threat, so they
just go ahead and scout. I'm going to go ahead and break the Siv matchup down
for you guys. Mongols versus Britons. Mongols is one of the trusted civilizations for Singsing
and Wagga. We've seen him go for the infantry rampage on the last match in Red Iset Fortress.
This time he's not doing it. So he's not going to go for something like, you know,
we saw him do it with the Japanese. We saw it happen with Mr. Llama with the Malay,
that infantry rampage. But here we have the Britons, just a solid civilization that
can go for a little bit of a boom, a little bit of, you know, a long bowman.
an archer based sieve, so expect a lot of range units from them. Mongols, usually a
cavalry based sieve, but they have some strong siege, but what I expect from this
game is he balance the approach of micro and macro. Ayuksen, what do you favor in
terms of these sieve matchups here? What do you know about Mongols versus
Britons? You know, of course limited knowledge, I want to play for a few weeks,
but I'm curious to get your opinion on the matchup. So I actually have no
idea about the strength and the weaknesses of this civilization. I have
under 100 hours in the game so I'm going to leave this detailed analysis to you
but what I do know is that Sing Sing wins 64% of games in matches that last
longer than 40 minutes. Oh wow! I've spoken to him and he said his plan is to
get into the late game because that's where he thinks Vaga is very bad.
Oh wow! That's interesting!
Looking at the stats of from Vaga, he has 77% wind rate in the games that last 2-25 minutes.
However, the wind rate drops dramatically in 40 minute games down to 43.
Okay, wow.
So, just looking at the stats, Sync Sync might have insane advantage in the late game,
and that's why I would expect from Waga push early on.
Like all in, forward, castle, whatever it takes
just to make sure to keep the pressure early.
Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense.
Remember the ladder race?
Of course, your Sing Sing played a kind of a balanced approach.
He would rush early a little bit,
but he'd, you know, often a lot of his games would go to the late game.
Waga would always rush
and he'd win those games around 15 to 25 minutes
with those men of arms, those longsruths in feudal age.
He would really play that early hyper-aggression style, however the problem this year for Waga
is that on this map it's really hard to push.
I mean we've seen a couple pushes work really well, but with the Britons you don't really
have that much push potential in the early game.
It's more of a boom and a control civilization.
You want to control the map with your long range long bowman, a long range arbalust,
maybe some trebuchets, maybe some halberd deer, but you're not going to have that
kind of like run in with like mass infantry ram or run in with cavalry and try to
end the game early. It's more of a slow build up. So, Waga may be playing against his strengths
on paper, but potentially doing that because he knows that Singsing won't die early. So,
honestly, really interesting to see the stats there, I use them. Thanks for presenting them.
Having spoken to Waga, he said that his plan to take down Singsing was through trying
stuff he never tried before. Now, the Brickens is something that he played yesterday
against the speed and bridge.
And so it's his second time on Fortress Map.
So he has a little bit of experience.
It's not too all in strut that he's seen on the YouTube.
So I'm really excited to see what players have,
what are they going to bring to the table.
And with one last thing that I would like to mention
about the formant that we are expecting,
This is where, as long as your king lives, you are in the game.
And can we point out at this little flag waving above the castle?
This is an indicator that there is something horizontal in here.
Now, as viewers, we can see the crown on the minimap to know where the king is.
But for the player, it's not clear.
And this flag above the towers, TCs and castles
might be a clue for where the king is hiding, exactly that, so you could potentially try
to throw the enemy off by putting, let's say, one-minute arms, which is super cheap to produce,
and you put it in the tower, and let it be there an entire game, and try to force him
to make a mistake and send his army to potentially snipe the king there.
Yeah, you can garrison anything into the tower and kind of activate and not be the king.
Let's see what the approach is for the players here.
The Sing Sing with a two-town center setup also has a monastery, so he wants to play for the relics.
He's also making some Mangadai, the very, very powerful cavalry archer unit for the Mongols.
This unit is one of the best units in the game when masked, but so is the longbowman from Wagga Wagga's
heading straight into this fight. I don't know if he knows that he will lose this fight,
He's taken it with a lot of confidence, so Xinxing's back it off, but Xinxing should win this fight with some micro. Xinxing's got one of the best micro in the tournament. It's fantastic.
That's incredible. Having played against Xinxing, who's much better than me, I've noticed how much attention he pays at the relics, and he tries to pick them up very, very early.
Now, trying to remember the build myself, managing economy, producing army, I really don't have the mental power to be able to get monastery and he already has army there, protecting it.
In my case, I would just send the monk and hope for the best. If he keeps the coin flip, he either makes it or not.
But it really shows the approach from Singsing where it's calculated.
He knows he's gonna need the army. It's already there.
The monk is walking the path that is already protected.
Great, great performance.
Yeah, Singsing is actually guarding all the relics.
He even scouts this one relic that he didn't scout before with this monk.
So now he knows about all the relics,
and he's even guarding every single one of them.
So Singsing is telling us that if he's gonna play for the relics,
he's gonna do it in a way that's planned, calculated, and consistent.
He's consistent playing towards multiple relics, and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets all five.
The thing is, the Waga is not really playing for the relics.
He made a couple long bowmen, but not much more than that.
He's on 3,000 boom with a nice 3-village lead, but it's not that good because Singsing already has his 3rd townster coming up.
And just a 3-village lead is not anything impressive or anything out of the world in terms of economic advantage.
However, he does have a couple extra economic upgrades as well.
So, slight economic advantage for Waga, but at the cost of Sing Sing getting the relics, personally, I prefer Sing Sing's position overall.
I think having those relics is worth way more than a 5-villager lead.
It's gonna help him a lot in late game.
Having aimed for bringing the game past minute 40, Sing Sing focuses on the relics.
Now, what is the benefit of having the relics?
Yeah, so the relics give you passive gold income.
At a slow rate, you know every relic gives you a slow little trickle of gold
But if you have all five relics, it's actually a pretty fast trickle and quite significant because it's infinite
It's in infinite and indefinite trickle of gold
So once all the gold on the map has run out and there's no more minerals to mine
The guy with the relic still has that passive gold income that's gonna be taking throughout the game
So it's a very nice advantage for late game and gold is a very scarce resource and a very important one for the late game
Let's make all kinds of siege powerful military units and upgrades
So definitely very important to secure your gold and relics are one way to do it for late game
There's one relic in the corner that things thing has not scouted by the way and why guy has an outpost getting set up with some vision here
Very nice. Oh, that's interesting. I think vision is very important to be able to react to potential army
coming in so I love that if
If Vagamaga puts a couple more that would give him quite the advantage and he does.
He does that, Villager goes on to build yet another outpost.
Yeah, and Sincin could knock this down by the way.
Sincin could easily just knock this down but it takes like a good what?
Like one or two minutes to knock that down and then you're just sitting there with
military knocking down a pretty cheap building.
I feel like that's not really a good use of your military so these outposts will
stay up for the time being.
Singsing catches the villager, he catches the villager, he's gonna kill that villager and stop the outpost
So good play from Singsing, getting some value from his military here, very nice
Something that I've noticed playing against Singsing and just watching him play is that how
Incredible he is at managing everything at once
I remember he has put his scout next to my barracks much like he is doing this to the town center
Yeah, and the moment I would attack him he would react immediately. Yes. His eyes is glued to his to this scout
Now I have a question about this. Yeah, how does notifications come through for when your unit is attacked?
Is it the moment you click on the unit or the moment it's getting hit the moment it's getting hit
So the moment you hit the unit you get a notification
But things thing is not waiting for the notification all the time
He keeps tabbing back to his army to check on its well-being. That's his Dota
Really good Dota micro because in Dota you need to you know keep an eye on your hero some other units
They might have close to your hero keeping an eye on all of them
It's very important and so syncing is using those skills from that game over in Age of Empire 2 and keeping a close eye on his military
He has the best micro in the tournaments or at least the top three best micro in the tournament
And he's definitely the most aware when it comes to where his military is and when they're gonna be threatened
Love this wall from Waga by the way on the bottom and on the top for that record
Gonna secure a lot of space at the back of his base really good for the Britons
Britons wanna secure some space and not have to worry about those mongol raids in the late game hold on to siege workshops
Waga, what is he planning?
Are we going to see a train of siege reps?
Yo, not the Britain strategy though. That's not like the Forte of Britain. So that's a bit surprising to me
We'll see what comes of that
Could it be perhaps Manganils to play defensive?
It could be, like, Manganils are okay. It's a decent option against Mongols.
The problem is, you see this Manganai here. A lot of people might not know this,
but the Manganai has an attack bonus versus Siege.
So most of the time, archery units are countered by Siege.
But the Manganai, specifically him, the unique unit from the Mongols,
is not countered by Siege as hard.
Now, it's still, you know, if you land your shots at the Manganils, it's still pretty good.
But, you know, not as good as versus other archery units.
So I'm not sure if Waga knows this, by the way, so maybe he doesn't know this and he wants
Manganos, but it is worth keeping this in mind as we view this game here.
Wow.
I have a question about the TC placements.
Some of them are within the walls of these fortresses, some of them outside.
And what's the benefit of having TC in compared to the outside?
Because my thinking here, there are resources, for example, for Waga.
outside of his base. Why not to put TC to secure the gold, let's say, to the left of his base, and have the farms within?
Yeah. Why not bring TC's outside?
Well, bringing TC outside is definitely risky, and I feel like Wagga's already getting punished here.
The thing is, at the same time you also kind of want to do that to secure your gold, so it's a bit of a double-edged sword.
sword. If you want to go out and take your resources at the same time, you're a bit more
exposed. Some people like to do it, some players don't, but it's really a player preference
on that one. Checking out what things he's going for is going to add some stables. It's
going to also go for a siege workshop. One range, but it's most likely just for thumb
rink and part of them tactics. Some upgrades for the Manga Dai. It's going to go for
the second castle. I think this is going to be a two castle Manga Dai plus his Saur
play with some siege ram. This could be a sick army composition for the Mongols.
I am loving this.
And really, it's already coming in.
Waga is going for Rams!
He's going to go for Mashed Rams and Pykeman.
I don't know if that's going to do that much against the Mangadai, to be honest.
Waga is going for a terrible strategy against the Mangadai.
Any other unit could be good against the Mangadai.
It's not really that good to invest into Rams.
Let's see if he invests a lot, or if it's just a one or two Rams.
The less Rams he makes, the better I think.
The more he commits, the worse this is going to be for him.
What it takes to produce rams?
It takes wood and gold and they come out of the siege workshop.
Right now he has 19 on gold and he is completely out of wood.
I can feel that his farms might be in troubles because it takes wood to recede.
And once you have idle villagers it takes so much mental effort to be able to fix this mistake.
doesn't hit this problem but seeing how we still have more units in the production that
costs wood it is very possible.
Yeah I mean economy is set up okay here but we definitely need a lot more wood.
We don't need that much food actually so what Waggon's going to run into is they
don't have too much food.
Most of his units are quite cheap and most of them even don't even cost any food.
So that's a good good comment here from Ayukesan just kind of pointing out the
economic problems that Wagon might face, low wood, gold is okay for now, but food rising
with no purpose, hopefully he'll be able to fix that at some point, but he's going to
go for halb ram with some longbows.
Again, I want to stress, this is a great composition in general, but not against Mangadai
specifically.
And again, I don't know if Wagon knows that the Mangadai destroys the rams.
We'll see how this plays out.
Thumbmaid comes in, and honestly, will Sing Sing commit to Mangadai?
We don't know.
just go for something completely different so we're just speculating on what's to come
that's an insane army production is going to be happening yeah yeah this is crazy crazy
oh i like this the drill hold on sorry one second i use in the drill coming in is huge
that's gonna give extra speed what is real what is real what is real it gives extra speed for the
siege for the mongols it's a unique technology so you can get the ferrari rams the ferrari
Honourers that's such a good tech against the Britons dude syncing is so ready
So you know I actually you know how a C-Dram is really slow with that upgrade it comes at you very very fast
It's a really good upgrade. No, is it like a taxi or is it a different thing?
No, it's not like the taxi it makes the RAM move a same speed as the taxi basically
Shit that's insane. Yeah. Now. Can we switch to see the control from syncing?
He has army patrolling all of the exits it seems like all of the approaches yeah
outposts up north, Sing Sing has incredible vision if Vaga tries to push Sing Sing is
going to know look at that scout. Sing Sing sees everything there is going to be no
element of surprise. Now what are those upgrades Sing Sing is getting? A horse, a
The wall? What is that?
It's so funny.
Okay, so you have an Asar coming in.
That's going to upgrade his light cavalry to Asar.
A very good upgrade for the late game.
The wall is siege engineer.
It's going to give one extra range and extra damage for siege weapons.
And the onager is going to be the best unit at killing mass archers in the game.
He's going to go for Mongol SO.
It's a very, very powerful unit.
You see the Magnos here. You're pretty scared of these.
It could be scary.
This upgrades them to onagers.
It's a very good upgrade.
I want to see it happen. I've never seen that before. I didn't know they can get upgraded. This is fantastic
I want to see it happen. This is fantastic
I have to quickly talk about what wagas doing though in the meantime yo man's gonna give extra inch first longbowman
This is elite longbowman ram how wagas got a great composition. It's a really good army to be honest
This is gonna be cinema. It's gonna be a cinema late-game fights. There's not many mangadai
Remember I talked about mangadai countering the ramps. Singsing's not going for many of them
He's good for auditors auditors die to the longbow, but only if you have good micro
Let's see the micro from Waga Waga's position. He sees the honor just coming in, but they're coming in quite fast
He picks them off though beautiful from Waga. It's crazy. Waga is insane at controlling the army
Yes, you can have 10 groups zero of them on control group and he controls everything now
What I want to pay our attention to is the idle TC time bug
Kara why do they not making any villagers anymore?
Yeah, it's a good question when you get off to the late game
You have the 200 pop you don't need to make more villagers. You can just stop at 120 and make room for military
Remember 200 population is the limit so you don't need to continue making villages at all all times at this point in the game
Yeah, go ahead
This is fantastic
This is great if you watch the base you can get pincered by the enemy army taking your time killing the production
It's really good guys. Singsing has made a huge blunder going for the Orangers without any other army
He's got a lot of Orangers who are coming in. It's gonna be a really really big fight
Waga has to pick up the Orangers with the 12 range long moment, but you have to be careful not to get hit
Waga don't get hit. He's taking some big shots from the Orangers, but he's microing them down
Oh my goodness. Good micro from both players here. Waga's doing a great job picking up those Orangers
The Rams are going down, but they're killing some of those buildings. Orangers at the back
There's no counter to the Halberdeers
What a crazy fight right now from Waga and Singsing the Dota Brothers are going at it!
I am honestly impressed the fact that Waga is taking score lead by quite a margin just shows to
just how much he prepared for this and he said that he's going to try a lot of things that he
haven't tried before. Singsing saying that he wants to play in 40-minute games because
that's where he is the strongest. Wagamaga has been always doing minute arms rush, but
he perhaps was hiding his trump card. They're late-late-late-game genius.
Those Brits are a fantastic late game, but by the way, Ayuksen, you were impressed by the
Onagers. What if I told you they have another upgrade? It's called the Siege Onager, which
is probably one of the best units in the entire game, by the way. The Siege Onager is
one minute and five seconds away from completing. It's such a powerful unit. Let's see if it's going
to be enough for Singsing to push this back. Wagga's pushing crazy though right now.
Are you telling me they're going to start to fly or what?
They're one step away from that. They're very fast. They're still on the ground,
not flying yet, but they do massive, massive damage. One ram still in the field.
It's going to go for the Monastery. There's actually a really sensitive
Monastery. There's five relics in here. That ram is 3 HP. Just blow on it. Just blow
It's three HP instead of kill the Monastery with five relics!
You imagine we would have five monks right there?
That would have been insane!
The gold advantage that the Sincsins was building up would be gone in seconds!
In the hands of Wagamaga.
Yeah.
I am impressed.
We have double castle forward build coming up brother!
Oh my goodness!
What the hell is this?
Wagas taking the map!
But Siege Otter just in!
Siege Otter just really really strong but the relics are down!
What a crazy game one!
In our first Best of Five series in the King's Gauntlet,
The monitor stays up but the relics are ungarious and syncing has to get those relics back in
We talked about that lake of advantage, but take a look at this huge honorger shots are so freaking good
Cast us forward though, can't fight those with honorgers
Bro, why this siege is so bugged? Hello?
It's like gold besides
Now what about the range? You told me that the Brings has a logo man
How is the range compared to this insane siege?
Excellent question. I actually love having you here, Aiyuki-san, because you're asking the right questions for the people that might not know everything there is to know about Age of Empires.
Fantastic question. 12 range for Elite Longbowmen. 12 range is a lot. That's more than a castle. Castle has 11 range with all upgrades.
Siege Onager has 9 range. So it's 12 to 9, which means Longbow should stay out of range.
But if you're not watching, you could get hit, and the Habadiers, oh my goodness, the Habadiers are getting kicked apart.
So I remember you have been talking about having one trash unit and then your main unit
Yeah
So, seeing how there is a lot of longbowmen, what did you see that shit?
He booed his army in the castle and asked him to make a little shot, what the hell?
That was a great move.
That was a great move from Waga indeed.
It's kind of a common one so I didn't react but Ayuki's never seen it before so I love
the reaction there.
Don't kill me Ayuki, that's fantastic.
That was a great play from Mr. Waga.
Waga is pushing in.
I love the castles with the trebuchets.
Sink Sink dude, he's in trouble 140 pop only.
He's got the crazy siege but the relics were a big part of the strategy and he can't get
the relics back in the modest area.
I can't believe I'm saying this but the Mongol late game is about to get beat by the Britsons
despite having siege honorsers, wow.
I want to point out one very important number, something that we haven't looked at yet.
Guys, number of armies, same thing is holding the eight men, verse 65 from Vhaga.
Yep, crazy.
This might be the first game to go towards Waga.
I cannot deliver it.
It's still close, right?
Like, Sing Sing just took out a castle.
He's holding with four castles from Sing Sing, and Waga is selling.
Waga with the 3-2-2.
Oh my goodness, he's under the castles.
You gotta back up.
This is terrible.
Oh my goodness.
He's lost a lot.
something that I have learned from probably the best player in the game
T90 official he told me to go behind the enemy base now if we switch
attention from this massive fortification here yeah the back of
the sink sink space bringing couple of ramps it's open it's oh it's welcome
not just it's open you just walk in so instead of trying to break through this
insane four castles just trying to get a plank maybe switch focus to really
destroy those military buildings do you think that would be a good idea
honestly maybe because there's four castles here I don't see how you fight
this it you could set up trebuchets but every time he sets up the trebs he has
to watch out for the siege honor just let's give me a huge shot oh my
goodness half the armor goes down another shot goes in trebuchet goes
down. Are those siege shooting fire? Yes, because of chemistry. This game is so complicated.
I never done chemistry. That's impressive. Yeah, getting chemistry is impressive. That
is a good point, Aikson. Oh, you're absolutely gold, my brother. Blast furnace coming in
equally as impressive have you done this upgrade I use it blast furnace what is it
what is it no idea no idea no they added it 25 years ago pretty recently of course
it gives plus two attack for your melee units both cavalry and infantry and that's
gonna be really good for the Hissar here so take a look at syncing using the
Hissar to control the map but Wagga continues to push forward I'm gonna
I should have lowered the sound a little bit. This is maybe not the right time though. Not the right time, Hera. Come on now.
Come on now. Gotta focus up. A lot of army on the field.
I cannot imagine how stressful it is for both of the players.
Having to manage this economy and such a big army, the moment you look away,
Zink Zink is going to nuke you with the fire. It's insane.
But having this advantage of looking from above, I would really love Vagamangas
to get a little bit of army production up front and go for that flank.
Maybe just one, two ramps and make them automatically kill all the stables.
But still, massive lead by Waga Waga.
Bro, look at this, there's six castles from Singsing.
There's six castles, but you see a lead from Waga.
He's got a 50 population lead, but the thing is Singsing's got the score lead.
Remember, if this goes to an hour and 30 minutes, we still got some time.
45 minutes to go but this goes to an hour and 30 minutes the guy with the
squad lead wins and since he's marching with a lot of these honorors dude if
Wagga missteps he will lose all of his army. Wagga's walking towards them, holy.
Big army though, big army as you're saying I used to this a huge army from
Wagga mama. We're trying to pick back up the relics but he's not able to do so.
It's a lot more pop from Wagga what it seems like planning here.
Oh man seeing these horses coming in from the flank is so annoying.
Do I just call Vagamaga right now and tell him, make some seizures, destroy this building.
What are you doing dude?
Well it's, oh my goodness.
No way.
Well he missed, he missed, he missed, he missed.
How did Vagamaga look at his own army?
Oh my goodness we're so close to getting some insane shots.
But Vagamaga is so good with the micro.
I actually did kill his own army, but the Hussars are pretty tanky, so they don't die in one shot, actually.
They take two or three shots to kill.
Oh my god.
Crazy.
I'm still on the edge of my seat right now.
The castle from Magus is gonna go down.
Next to the right side of the castle is, um,
flattening one castle down.
Yeah, one castle down.
I'm sure alone, I'm protected for so long.
It does go down, but it goes down a hero, and a lot of traps from Singsling will also go down.
The trade in gold and stone but honestly Wagas taking better trades
without a big shot, Singsing is actually losing the fights
he does have a leap MagiDai now though one of the best units in the game
missing some armor though no Parthen tactics big shot though with the ESO
Something that I would like to leave our attention to
is resources count. Having practiced lots and lots of games
Singsing is exceptional at making sure his resources are well spent
look at this guys it's almost me it's not there if having lots of resources means floating
sink sink is at the bottom of the ocean he's doing so good having 6.5 thousand food is of
course incredible uh because you can use this uh resources to sell them using market and get
stone for the castles, gold for the army, but I don't know how is it humanly possible to be able
to control so many things at once and still be able to play this game. Yeah, absolutely.
Singsing, low on gold though, I will mention, he needs to get those relics back in. He's
trying to buy time. He snags the trebuchet, goes back. This game has never been closer, scores
neck and neck. Wagga grabs a little bit of extra gold on the bottom, by the way. He's trying
trying to snag some wood from the top, so he's trying to play the expansion, but again, no siege from Waga.
He's moving around a little bit more, since... sorry, you wanted to see this, a little bit of movement from Waga,
since he's trying to get back to the relics, but so far, no siege from either player.
What resource is needed for Singsing to not only stay in the game, but to perhaps bring the fight to the enemy?
Because it seems like all of the resources inside his base is depleted.
What does he need to keep making army?
In my opinion, he needs to get these two relics back in.
The five relics were very important for gold production
because without gold, he can't make Manga Dai, he can't make Sea Donnerger.
He only has Hissar.
So you need a lot of gold production or the relics to get those gold units
and then you need the Hissar Spam.
Constant Hissar Spam, maybe he needs even more villagers.
Something like that.
So being very low on gold means that he cannot make army.
He can't make his power units. He can only make the Hissara, which are okay, but they're not gonna do that much on their own, is what I would say.
Okay, got it, got it.
While Vagamaga has so much resources selling his stuff right now, he can put another castle right there next to this monastery, no?
Yeah, he could if he wanted to, but he's grabbing the hill instead, which is arguably a better choice.
He's using the Lombos to constantly stack the monks, by the way.
He's done this consistently throughout the game.
We grab one more relic there's one more still to grab good micro from syncing though
He's gonna go out of his gate with the mega that trying to mic with him down. You don't want to lose these guys
You have to keep moving
When the arches from
Vaga shoots do they hit all the time? No
So they have ballistics so if syncing doesn't micro he will always get hit
But syncing is micro so good that he can dodge ballistics
That's an advanced topic that we don't have to worry about too much right now
We just know that not every arrow is hitting here. Not every arrow is hitting
Are you telling me an army of 12?
Managed to shift the tights in this situation right now
Yeah, with good micro that he's showing with the man with the mankind
It's a very powerful unit. He's able to kind of turn the tide a little bit
You know, he hasn't killed all the wagons army wagons got fantastic production from the home
But he is kind of buying himself some time taking some decent trades
The problem is though, Sing Sing is actually very low on goals and Wagah has a 200 population army right now
Excuse me?
200 population army, that's 77!
No, 200 pop and a big army basically.
Okay, got it.
Yeah, sorry.
Alright, alright, alright.
The Linger gets a little confusing I guess.
Alright, a lot of longboats and halbs on the field, and we got full upgrades from Wagga
by the way.
Sing Sing's actually still missing parts and tactics on his Manga Dive.
He did pick up something I caught that earlier, but he just doesn't know how to fight this.
I want to see him go to Siege Onager again, honestly.
I think the only way he holds this is if you get some lucky shots on the big massive
units.
Without that, it's very tough.
But you can!
There is no gold!
You cannot!
Well, he can sell a bit.
He can make a few.
He's got the relics back in.
So he's got a small chance.
It's gonna try to raid with some hessars. That's a pretty good idea to buy some time. Actually, I like that
I think that's open up time. I'm not sure. Yep
Good raids. So I
Just want to point out that this detail of
Sink Sink coming in with his army
big while you
Focus your attention on attacking the enemy. It is possible that Vaga might not see it or
or have to put a lot of efforts into making sure those guys are not going to kill his economy.
Yeah, please.
And having units...
Switch back! Switch back!
Unit might open the gate!
Right, uh...
Oh my god!
I think it was blocked!
But it's not that big of a deal though, because it's just Five Hussars, right?
Like, even if he comes in with Five Hussars, there's a lot of defense like towers, town centers and whatnot.
So, even if he would get in with this raid, it's not the end of the world actually.
I'm much more interested in what's going on here,
because there's like a hundred army from WAGA on the field gear. This is way more impactful in my opinion.
And exactly what I was mentioning previously, attacking from the side.
Now we cannot really break in very quickly, so we'd like to see a siege workshop here, a couple of rams.
Yeah, and he did invest into the rams. Like a couple rams here, we talked about this earlier.
I used to want to see a couple rams break the houses, break the wall,
so opening up the base, don't try to play into these five castles. Look at these five castles,
We did kill one but still play that macro game go from the sides. That's way better approach
What a fantastic game one though, but waga 200 population sinks in 120. I feel like he's struggling
I use him. Do you want to see a kink sniping sinks thing before he loses the game if you were to lose it?
Brother, I have to say having played this ready side myself. Yeah
You coming into the battle knowing about this possibility, but as you start to play
personally I forgot about it. And if Sing Sing is keeping it at the back of his mind there is a chance no matter your situation there is always a chance and I would love that. I would love that. That would be cinema.
Yeah, I agree with you and I think we're getting about it is something that could happen though
Singsings obviously focused on the micro the macro the defensive the offensive
But just thinking about a king snipe when you feel like you've lost the game is the way to go
Wagga with a hundred and fifty military. This is the Britain's ball of death
How about your elite long woman and trebuchets and now there's no stopping it before we had the gold for the heavy siege
Now we don't he cannot fight the Singsing has to find a way around the castle goes down
I think it has to be a king snipe. It has to be a king snipe
There is no other way, but does he has the means?
To do it very quickly. What do you think? Looking at his army, can he do it swiftly?
Like in 60 seconds. I'll explain how you do it
So you got the army the mangidai will step the king you just need seeds
You have the top castle bring five trebuchets you come here you knock the gate
You knock the castle and then you go into the mangidai. It could be done
It could be done
You're gonna be looking forward, right?
Yep.
Wagga though so far, unstoppable on this hill.
Like there's no fighting this, he just doesn't have the resources, all the castles will go
down.
If Singsing wants to try king step, he's gotta go now.
He might try to fight the army head on though, he's switching the skirmishers.
He might think this game is closer than it is, but Wagga is so far ahead right now.
It's so far ahead for Wagga.
If we look back at that gate, it's being raided again on Wagamaga's base.
So the walls behind it? That tower is holding the Fort as well, which is quite nice.
Alright, I have a question about the hill. Wagamaga has trebuchets on the hill. Does it impact the range of trebuchets?
Yes, and not the range of the damage, excuse me. Not the range, but it does more damage when you're on top of the hill, which is quite significant as well.
Yeah, I know that for everyone who doesn't guys if you are on the hill and enemy under the hill
You double the damage, sorry, 25% more damage and you take 25% less
That means 50% advantage over the enemy
So putting a castle on the top of the hill is something that you always want to make sure you do if there is a chance
Because if enemy tries to Trebuchets, it takes 25% longer because of these heal-advented ones.
And I've learned about it before, the longbowmen of Greatness have a higher range than the Castle.
So Vaka doesn't even need Trebuchets for that. He can just send a hundred longbowmen and take down the Castle. Is that true?
Yeah, absolutely. That's what my brother did to me like 20 years ago when we used to play together.
Just a hundred long moment and just killing all my castles. I had nothing to counter it and log it through in the same
The same thing he had the law woman just taken out the castles
I think it's time for king snipe syncing is completely dead. He's got no options to win this game from what I'm seeing
He's got 25 minutes left until the timer. I mean, maybe he can play a score victory
You could win on score. He's massing a lot of skirmishers now. Let's see what you can do
Maybe the skirmisher is the right call
How can you, how can you infant the score? If that's the play? We have still 26 minutes
to go and this army from Vladian, it's not going to stop. So if you were in this position
and the score is your only option, what would you do?
So parts and taxes coming in for the Manga Dye, it's going to be fully upgraded Manga
Dye now. To upgrade your score, to boost your score, you want to take good trades,
you want to fight well, kill military units, you want to score, you want to make buildings
and get technologies. That's the way to get score. But right now, we're still
very far from that like you have to defend yourself because if you just lose in
25 minutes if you lose your entire base your score is gonna be terrible so
Singsing has to defend this or he has to go for king snap I think the score bit
three is very far from right now it's worth thinking about but you need to
defend first Shriver Shades on the field this is almost a last castle there's
two castles left here maybe that go in and this could be a big fight I think
this is pretty much over for Singsing looking at the dynamic of this but
It hasn't been shifting for the last half hour. Yeah now. What about this the most balanced thing in the game to reason?
Has a syncing got in it yet?
No, that's you know where the king is. He doesn't know where the king is
I think he can imagine it's in the castle and he sees the flag doesn't know for sure though
But he couldn't even go for it to be fair
But I agree with you, I think there's no fighting this, right? There's no fighting this army.
The same thing did this couple of times. He did it to me, he did it yesterday, I believe,
to spot the king. So he knows. But maybe he's under such immense pressure at the moment,
it's not in his mind. He's trying to survive, he's trying to float and not thinking about
attacking while he tried the skirmishes here and there snipes and villagers
perhaps he's just overwhelmed yeah waga so impressive from waga by the way it's not easy
to control this much military but she's doing such a good job of it and he's playing against the guy
who's in theory 200 elo higher than him right now but of course waga's peak was also 1600
i think since they might try the king snipe the mega that i'm moving forward you have one
castle up here you could go for it but you have to go for it right now we're talking
So much about this because without a king snipe, I just don't see a good way to win this game
The army from Wagga are moving in in fact sinks in skiing might get snipe. It's only in the tower. Oh
It moved I totally miss this
during this time nice I
Have to say this
Forman is so fun even someone like me would win against the best player
guys
Yeah, I can bet a house I win against Hera. Oh, oh, sorry. Sorry. There is a chance
There is a chance I can do it and it makes it so much fun
Like there is always a chance
Sleep chance that you can you can give your shot. I you said I'm gonna keep it
I'm gonna give it a buck 50 with you, bro. Even on Redis side. I don't think there's a chance you're beating me
But I like the energy and I like the enthusiasm and I like that you're I
I like that you're dreaming high. I think that's pretty cool. I think that's pretty cool. Mr. Ieuchsen
Yeah, I haven't shown my trump cards yet. Okay. I was the dominated early. I sound back anyway
And then you have a lot more to offer but you could have offering things sing sing is offering nothing to defend his army
Sing sing wait
Sing sing only there's involuntary. Okay, all right
He's went to the safety of his town center, but the relics are about to ungeverse in his well here
Waka is just sitting just menacingly in Sing Sing Space. This is fantastic
I love just how aggressive he's been but dude Sing Sing is picking up a lot of reinforcements
Sing Sing's got a lot of skirmishers. Can he hold this? This is holdable maybe. He said look for the fight. A lot of Sing Sing skirm
I'm looking at the resources and that Sing Sing has been building up food and gold
Is there anything he can use this for?
Yeah, like gold, magi die and food in his arse for sure.
Good resources.
Maybe he hasn't given up yet.
He's still trying so far.
He's doing a good job picking up the reinforcements
to how good they aren't really doing much as they come in.
But the skirmishers are having such a hard time closing the gap.
They're just dying before they can even fight.
They've killed a few lombos.
But these lombos, how many kills?
These lombos have 180 kills.
This group of 37 lomboman
have killed 185 units and counting and what happened wait the king the king what
happened no the king got sniped the king got snipe I missed it oh my god it was
auto-attacked hold on it's washed his back it's in the town center oh my god I
missed that that's crazy we need to look at the tribus yes I think it was
targeted I think it was targeted bro it's gonna come out right now it's out
it's out it's out and he sniped it oh my goodness why does life sink sinks king
Gigi in the chat won't play to Wagga I had completely forgotten about that
we're just talking about the fight talking about the skirmishers but the
king is all that matters and Wagas the one with the king snipe cinema
cinema game the two daughter players are absolutely delivering and I have to say
this series is looking very very very nice. Waga takes game one this is a do or die
a best of five winner goes through loser is out this is fantastic.
How do you enjoy that first game my friend?
Well first of all I think from now on we address Waga as Waga. I did not see this
coming. He is my favorite. I know this thing is stronger, but seeing him pull this off makes
me so happy. It's incredible. I love that. I didn't think he would do it. W aga. But
of course, you know, it's still only one game. It's a best of five. So it's just one
game, but I think it's really good that we have a player that's able to punch above
I love his way a little bit here.
I love his halo and take out a game from Singsing.
But again, it's gonna be Singsing's home back next.
I expect him to go for a Raybex.
He hates Arena.
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But guys we're waiting for the next game. They're about to get started
I'm actually waiting for them to start this next game
But they are not in the lobby so far. So give us a moment as they just get started. Take a look at their camps
They're both just talking maybe thinking about their civilization
It's going to be the home map pick from Singsing now as he's lost the first game.
And yeah, you talked about this, Ayuksen, kind of a nice, kind of upset from Waga, right?
Like, Singsing is the favorite. That's quite nice.
Having spoken to Singsing, he said his pick is going to be Arena.
He mentioned that if he is playing against Vaga, he is going to do mongols, which he did, unfortunately it failed.
But now his idea to pick arena opposite to what he is used to Arabia, because once again he wants to push games in the late game.
Now, maybe the idea is going to change, having seen incredible performance from Vaga,
but at least that was the plan from him coming into this series.
Dude, if Simpsons picks Arena, I would be very surprised by the way,
because he specifically always says,
I hate Arena, I hate Arena, my opponents are Smurfs, I hate Arena.
That's what Simpsons was talking about, all Lada races, all I heard from him.
And I would be really surprised about him picking Arena here.
But the chat is saying it is Arena, that's a crazy pick, so he's picking something he hates, just because he thinks Waga hates it more potentially, which is fantastic.
Great call out, Aikson, this is crazy.
Talking about these smurfs coming into the matches of Sing Sing, I won't be surprised if in the tournament's discord, WagaMaga is going to leave a message in Smurf Report on Waga.
If Vagat sneaks this victory as well.
Let's see how it goes down, but guys, helping in.
It's gonna be the home map from SinkSing.
It's gonna be Arena and he's walking the Turks.
His opponent is Vagamama, of course,
playing as the Sicilians.
The Sicilians are not a usual Arena-sive.
This is very, like, kind of off-meta.
I don't know what he's planning with the Sicilians.
It could be a dungeon rush.
I have a problem.
What's the problem?
Tell me.
He has never played Sicilians before on the ladder.
Zero games.
A first-timer, this is insane.
OK, can we talk about the civilizations
and try to understand what's the idea of the players?
What would be the tactic seeing the peak?
I'm just going to get the cam set up,
because I think the players and the viewers want
to see the correct cameras.
There we go, Sing Sing is in a red,
in this correct position here.
I don't know what to expect from the Sicilians, honestly.
I have no idea what to expect from Sicilians.
So let's talk about the Turks,
because I understand the Turks here, of course.
Turks are great at gunpowder.
They have potentially fast and pure ledge potential.
They have a castle drop into genus theory,
so gunpowder in castle edge.
And then we have, on the Sicilian side of things,
I mean, I can walk you through their bonuses.
They have some solid infantry.
They have a decent late game.
They have a great economy, a great boom
when it comes to the farms lasting longer,
but they don't really have any good power spikes.
So like the farms last longer in the sense
that they get more food on their farms
once they get their upgrades for the farms.
That's how the Sicilian bonus works there.
But none of this is leading to like
a super powerful strategy.
It's just like a decent all-round sieve.
It could be a tower rush, a dungeon rush.
If that happens, I'll talk you through that.
Okay, so, okay, Aikson.
But so far, I'm not sure if it's gonna be...
What would be the early sign of Tower Rush?
Fast Feudal?
Sorry, Tower Rush or Castle Rush?
No, Tower Rush.
Yeah, Tower. Tower from Waggon.
And why do we have to wait all the way until Castle?
No, it would have to be a Fast Feudal for him.
So if he goes for a Fast Feudal, then we know there's gonna be a Tower Rush.
Yeah, exactly.
Do you think Sync Sync will be able to recognize that?
I think he would, yeah.
If his opponent goes for Fast Feudal, I think you would understand that it's gonna be a Tower Rush?
whether he knows how to defend that i'm not sure but i think you would understand
what's happening
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uh... and uh... what i was just pushing in here like you don't have to
tower by the way you could play normal game
and uh...
you could go for a massive boom
And in the late game you can play with a lot of, you know, sergeants,
you can play with a lot of, you know, slow infantry,
that kind of slow but steady push, you've got Seedram,
got a lot of the options that Waga tends to like.
But yeah, I'm not really sure what he's going to go for here.
Waga did mention that he wants to try a bunch of things for the very first time.
Cecilians, he haven't played it before.
Maybe it was in the practice rounds with his coach, maybe himself.
But I would love to see some crazy shit.
For example, a Maganel cutting down wood line all the way by the red line into the enemy base.
That would be hilarious.
Can we please see that?
That's something that actually is really good in the late game, but no one has went for it yet.
So that would be quite a cinema if it does come to be.
I was watching one streamer today trying to do that and he was trying to shift cue the
trees and it wasn't working.
And he found a way with the stand ground instead of aggressive mode, because the Maganel would
switch to the enemy buildings.
That of course is going to be absolute cinema, the chat is going to be flying, but there
There is one more thing that I was dreaming to bring onto the table if I were to play Arena
against Sing Sing.
And that would be to make a tower that helps your army jump over the wall.
That is so cool.
The siege tower, yeah the siege tower, just real quick we have some chatting going on.
I'm rot-maxing so hard.
A lot of rot under Waga's base, Sing Sing says the same.
Sing Sing also has a lot of animals rotting.
both of them rot maxing which is fantastic shout out to the spiffing brits who figured out what rot was
the day before the event of course we have a nice little clip on youtube about that you guys
know what i'm talking about surely um but yeah players discovering about rots and and not able
to uh you know go around it as efficiently as you'd expect but uh rot maxing is a uh somewhat
okay uh approach to this arena game so let's talk about a little bit um what wagga could go for
it's not going to be the tower rush but it's going to be some kind of castle drop all in
I think. Oh, I don't know actually, he's on stone. Wait, Waka just got on stone while
Sync Sync has been on the stone for quite some time. Maybe he sold some of it to be able to
go up? Is that a possibility? No, I don't think so, because I think if you want to
sell your stone, you would, you already sell a 200, you can sell it. I think this tells
me it's going to be a castle drop from Waka and a castle drop from Sync. Sync Sync
has done the castle defense every game I don't know what Waga is doing maybe it's
a tower rush though I don't know I honestly don't know what he's doing
four bills going forward might be a tower rush that's late let's let's see I'm
not gonna predict what he's gonna do I'm just gonna tell you what it's gonna
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here for villagers walking forward here I mean what do you think that
What surprises me is the scouting from Sing Sing. Previously he was on the Waga's neck.
He knew exactly what he was doing and now he's missing an opportunity to...
Yeah, he has no idea.
Yeah, he's got no idea. 100%.
He's going to see those walls though.
He's going to see the walls?
But that's a bit too late. It's hard to react to it now. It's on your face.
You have a loom coming in for Waga.
Let me explain it to the chat and to IEUXIN and what we're seeing here
We have a loom finally so no omega loom situation for Waga a huge wall from syncing to chat. Oh, wow
That's somewhat say an overreaction, but maybe he's just playing it safe crazy reaction from syncing either way
Syncing will lose the scout the Waga is going for a dungeon rush. So a dungeon is a tower for Sicilians
All right, and you can make your sergeants from it now the sergeant is an infantry
I can also make more dungeons itself. It's actually very cool. Yes
Brother, this is the cheese. I lost to this
Oh, yeah. Oh my god
I'm sure I remember the cheese remember when I used to pull out the cheese took a nice little width
He was dealing with the dungeon rush. I actually are you okay? Any PTSD? Breathe. I used to breathe. It's okay. You find I
I'm holding up, but look at this defensive wall out of stone from Singsing, I think Waga
has gotten into his head.
I can totally see his blood pressure going up, the heart is beating, palms are sweating,
mum spaghetti, clown.
What is happening?
Also Waga is going for a range, this is like an all in, this is a prepared strategy,
He's never shown before wagas preparation is off the charts right now. He's gonna break into this wall. It's slow
But steady you eventually will break into it since he's buying time with another layer of stone walls
But these houses are pretty squishy. The stone is pretty exposed. You might have to tower it
Zing sing could be in trouble while it's going in
He's got three villagers and four sergeants remember they can also build the dungeons wagas looking around he doesn't see the stone
This is awful like you you build a China wall in your own base less space for the farms
And enemy just what they build another tower attack on Titan
Another layer of walls with the Titans are coming in the black is coming in like a Titan with these dungeons and
Dude, he's that he's building another dungeon 16 with another layer of walls. It's a fantastic
I can say I spotted that sink has ten villagers on stone
So he plans to drop a castle somewhere in defensive position something that you said he's done before
But looking at the economy from Blaga, he has only one unit getting food, the rest on wood and gold.
Why? What does he plan to produce?
That's actually a mistake. Like we've seen Mr. Lama, he tower rushes but he messes up his economy behind it.
You have to get your farms down. If you don't get your farms down, he's not going to be able to make villages soon.
He's not going to be able to get to the next age. So, Ayuksen, no farms is a bad sign.
actually I feel like Sing Sing is doing a great job holding Sing Sing has no looom! Sing Sing has been holding with no looom!
Oh my goodness!
We absolutely need Omega Loom in the chant and while we do that can we switch back to the Vagas base?
I've noticed that he's chopping struggling trees. Could that be that he was planning to get on farms and he just forgot?
I think he forgot. Yeah, I think he needs to farm and he's just forgetting that wood is not really good
It's not doing anything. He has no villagers queued. That's the downside of you
So that's a downside of doing something that you've never done before
It's surprising you're catching your point of guard, but you're just not that good at doing it
He gets the farms down now, but take a look at that number
Oh, now it's done. Yes, I don't see see in the corner
I use and told you guys what that means less villagers coming out for Wagga
Which means that syncing is actually pulling ahead of course
He's got less villagers, but he's got Castle Age on top of Vlaga
So Singsing has a massive advantage and he's held beautifully in my opinion Singsing is hard-of-winning right now
But this castle he's making something called Janissary did those guys held a gun?
Yeah, it's a gunpowder. Are you telling oh?
This is not looking very good for Vlaga. No and looking at the economy efficiency
Those villagers that have been walking from the TC to the struggling trees, they haven't been working very efficiently.
And so, while the pressure was on Sing Sing, he had almost zero idle TC.
These two minutes, 40 seconds of idle TC, with quick calculations, boom, boom, kaboom, that's like seven villagers.
Yeah, seven villagers at Kodun.
And that's a big problem here because look at this pressure from Wagga, it's all getting cleared up.
Dude, Singsing just having his way with him right now.
He's just shooting him over the wall, and Singsing with a great arena pick, I think he
caught Waga off guard.
Waga had a prepared strategy on arena, but Singsing's strategy tried and tested with
the Janniseries.
Fantastic performance here from Singsing so far, and he's going to be picking off
the Sargeants, he's going to be picking off the Archers.
Singsing, despite dropping game 1, is looking to clap back in game 2.
There's one more dungeon going up, but there's no pressure from this angle.
The market, despite being on fire, is still with a lot of HP.
dungeon not doing a whole lot right now I wouldn't go as far as to say that the
game is totally over because looking at the resources collected both players
respectively are pretty pretty close yeah and now with the Vanga bringing the
fight to the enemy at this stage he can calm down he can it's time where you
can collect yourself and try to understand what is going to be your
next move, because clearly the surprise didn't work. But the castle and the castle units,
it's not what I would expect him, that Waga would expect. He wanted to get in, destroy
the economy, but now we have the time to collect ourselves.
I think Waga going right, by the way, I think Waga going right to the market and not left
to the stone. Of course, he didn't know this, but him going right instead of left
actually kind of cost him the game
or like at least cost him the rush because
here there's nothing to attack but on the left side there's the stone
and unfortunately he just shows right instead of left
and uh...
got kinda punished for that but again it's not really a mistake because he didn't know better
no vision of course, Magina is coming out to clear these towers
Simpsons has an option by the way
he has an option to make one petard
and he could go to the bottom
and he could easily just counter attack onto Waga's base, nice and easy
wait, wouldn't you break the towers first?
You can ignore them. You don't have to break them. You could ignore them. You could break them, which is what he's doing, but you could ignore them and just counterattack, right?
Oh, interesting. So these guys with guns support one bombardier. No. The cannon guy.
The batard, yeah.
Wow, interesting. Now, what would be a response from Vaga? Seeing that the enemy has guns, what do you do against it?
Uh, it's a great question. So, first step, go up to Castle Edge. Nothing in futile age beats this unit. It's impossible.
This army comp is way too strong. You have to upgrade your tech.
Waga goes up to Castle Edge. He's hoping to buy time with those dungeons.
My best advice is that Waga should go for economy first.
I think he should get a lot of economy.
I think he should get his economy to like a 3TC setup, maybe even a 4th DC.
Because Sicilians need a lot of economy to fight against the Turks usually.
On low economy, the guns will out-produce or outperform what Sicilians can put to the field.
So I think you, Broom, go for a lot of economy and maybe you bring out some heavy cavalry later.
I think that would be a good option for why I gotta fall back on.
But will he be in time? I'm not sure.
Sing Sing's already adding a Townsend and he's already developing his own economy.
Looking at this with the feedback from you, it really feels like Sing Sing is a little bit more prepared,
or at least have more experience.
He has played 20 games on the ladder with the Turks,
So he knows about the strength and the build order and just in general, uh-oh, Vaga is laughing.
We might see Gigi.
No, but he's laughing because he got trapped. I don't know if it's Gigi, but all of the army will die.
Singsing completely destroys the push from Waga and will now push back across the map.
The last villager goes down and Waga got completely trapped in the corner there.
He could have ran away earlier, but Singsing did not let him delete the wall and was right there.
They are syncing with a master piece of a defense so far,
Castle it in 15 seconds for Waga.
What are your hopes for Waga man?
He's already down villagers, down a lot of army.
It's not looking good for him.
I think we can see him using the stone that he has gathered so far
for defensive castle of his own.
And as long as he keeps map control
and don't let Synxing to, let's say, bring a Trebuchet tool,
He should be fine. We see a second PC coming up at Castle, so it's not over yet.
Yeah, it's not over yet. So I think Castle to defend is pretty good. Janus' Magnus could break in,
but with that castle you can kind of block a lot of your base. You're going to be able to
defend yourself quite nicely and then just boom to the back. It's a pretty good idea from
I like that. He needs to kind of catch up in villagers anyways
Let's see what things he decides to do. He's got a decent economy himself
And you should be able to try to push himself at some point
I don't like that he's taking so long clearing these buildings, but he decides it's worth taking them out
Yeah, I think for the foreseeable future for as long as you are at the enemy's doorstep
These buildings wouldn't be producing anything, but he managed to kill it quite quickly
quickly. I remember we've seen speaking break with his horse's wagons killing 25 wood worth
in the house for like 2 minutes.
Yeah, that's the opposite of what you want. But this one, yeah, with the siege, it's not
too bad, of course. And he is bringing the siege forward. Of course, Wagga will go to
the offensive siege workshop. I think he will just start picking apart these walls.
The guns do pretty well against the walls themselves. The Magnos also quite good
against walls, so Wagga doesn't have that much time to defend by the way. He needs the
Magnals quite fast here I would say.
And they take 7 business days to produce if I'm correct. I'm always down on Magnals.
I want to have them 7 yesterday, so that's a little bit of a disaster. And seeing how
open his base is, I think if Wagga breaks in, we might have a problem. That castle
right there isn't going to do much because it's so far away. Maybe bringing it a little
bit closer to the goal and to the PC center would be a little bit better option. What do
you think?
Yeah, I think the castle could just be bypassed here. It's going to help a little bit right
now. Sing Sing finally sees the castle. A beautiful response from Sing Sing. He's got
such good micro, such good unit control. Doesn't even lose a single scratch on the
genus series to that castle. He's going to start taking out the CD workshop. It's
going to all come down to the micro from Wagga. He's got a couple of meganels.
He's got some sardines being messed up, and he goes to a megan on the back, it's just,
how do you catch Singsing's army here?
Singsing's got good unit control, let's see, he's going to keep the janissaries at bay.
He's going to the quarter.
I think like this, the megan is gonna, oh my god, no, no way, no way!
Oh my god, one more, one more, oh shit, he's already down.
What the hell?
These guns, guys, they are OP.
Oh my god.
Oh my god, so many bullets.
He's got the he's got the surround he's got the surround manganese on the back. Oh my goodness a blunder from six
Clear up from Wagga. No freaking way. That was insane. Holy what was syncing doing in the corner?
That was crazy
Okay, I was crazy could
Sing sings the manganese shoot the manganese of Wagga all those buildings were on the way
No, he could have he could have walked forward kill the manganese
He could have dodged with the Janus series, Singsing could have done a lot of things.
I think he choked it.
He's got great unit control, but you know, even the best players are making mistakes sometimes,
but it's not just a bad play from Singsing.
It's really good credit to Wagga.
Wagga had to be the one to do it.
A lot of bluster players would not be able to find those shots, so credit to Wagga
and maybe a slight miss up from Singsing.
But guys, have no fear.
If you're a Singsing fan, don't worry.
Your boy's playing a great game still.
Second castle, 20 bills up.
He's still in a winning position. Waga just gave himself some hope to try to come back into this game, but Sing Sing is still in the commanding position, alright?
Great moment though, great moment.
I've noticed that Waga has made monastery of his own, and seems like Sing Sing idea of getting the relics very early on might not work here.
Yeah.
And while Vaga is down on villagers, if he manages to get relics, the late game might look
a little bit better.
And look at that single monk at the bottom left.
Is Vaga going to spot him?
Oh.
Not yet?
No!
He's holding a relic?
He's on the side of it.
Dude, this guy's Jaster.
He's just trolled.
He's been holding that for like two minutes.
Aura farming.
Yeah, he's aura farming.
That's kind of insane.
All right.
Yeah, that one's got a relic.
I have a newborn, she's 3 kilos. Holding her like this, I can do maybe for a minute.
But what is it, like 10 minutes right there? Holding a rally? My man is jacked.
He has it removed. Dude, that guy's a savage. Alright, we'll see how long he stays.
He's been here since at least 30 minutes. That guy's been putting in the reps.
Waga's gonna be looking for some more relics though. Of course, as you mentioned,
Sing Sing Pizza the Relics last game, this time it's gonna be Waga, both players.
You know, putting some Pryo on those relics, with the two castles set up, we can expect that it's going to be mainly genocidal play from Singsing.
And he's got a good economy behind this handcraft coming in, 90 villagers. Of course, it was that 30 villagers lead, 25 villagers lead.
It's pretty good for Singsing, and I think, you know, Waga with Sicilians normally need a much bigger economy to be able to fight the Turks.
Turks usually have better army, better units, but Sicilians usually have a better economy.
See what Wagga can do is taking the map control though so far with those donjens trying to buy some time, but Sync Sync is about to click up to him purely as the ladies and gentlemen he has clicked it. That's crazy.
I'm looking at the upgrades and Sync is missing one upgrade on the wood. Is there a reason for that? Is there ever you would not want to get an upgrade on the wood?
That's a good question. There is a reason for it sometimes, but in a situation like this there's no reason for it.
I think he just forgot to pick it up, and he's picking it up now, but to be fair, you know, not the nitpick Singsing.
Oh, the monk finally moves at the perfect time. That's fantastic.
So he literally just aura farmed and he's gonna bring the relic back in. That monk is a freaking gigachat.
Fantastic performance from Singsing there and his monk.
So there is a reason to skip both sometimes, but not now.
And Singsing has missed out on a lot of wood over time, since he didn't get that wood chopping upgrade.
However, no big deal. He's still doing good enough. He's gonna pick up Thundering now, which is, um,
Only working for cavalry archers. I think Sing Sing will switch to cavalry archers by the way
I don't think he's gonna stick with the genoceries. Not sure though. What does this
Ring does to cavalry archers? It gives them a more accuracy and makes them attack faster
So it's a pretty big buff and yeah, indeed it is gonna be cavalry archers and
Wagas up the Imp as well
He's gonna also go for some dungeons in the center plus some infantry
I'm not sure what his final composition is going to be, but I think the Turks with their
Cavaliers, we've seen this from Sing Sing earlier, I think yesterday we saw Sing Sing
pull it out and you can get the 100 HP Heavy Cavalier.
The Turk Lake game is conventionally one of the best lake games in Age of Empires
2, it's very strong.
I'm honestly impressed how did you manage to read the exact unit he is going to build
almost as if you are decent at this game.
I'm gonna be honest it slipped through my my my fingers, but looking at the resources collected
sync sync is so
Infront and he's making force for TC. I love that. I
Just looking at the statistics looking at the possibilities
It seems like sync sync is going to overwhelm waga unless
Yes, Waga once again performed miracles with those magnolias.
Yeah, again, like those magnolias, look at this one, this one has 10 kills, that's ridiculous.
Think of the value that one magnolias can kill 10 units, that's so insane.
But syncing up to imp with 40 village lead, going to the church, late game composition,
and syncing by the way, is super, super disciplined, alright?
He is a player that will not take risks.
He likes to play positional, he likes to play fast and aggressive, but not stupid
reckless with his army. I know we had that one slip-up back here, but trust me that was not the
syncing that usually shows up. There was a slight slip-up and he got punished of course, but I expect
big things from syncing. But hold on, it's Onergers from Waga! He is going to the Onergers!
Ayukxin, what does this upgrade do? Come on, explain it to the chat, because I know you don't-
I have no idea, but like at some point they get to shoot the fire did. That's so cool.
Honestly, I am impressed that Vaga even knows about it.
Like, being as experienced in this game as myself, I did not know those things can get upgraded.
I just don't know.
Vaga does know about chemistry, he will pick it up later.
It's not the most important upgrade for the Honourers, but it does make them look cool shooting the fire.
Honourers coming in to the Honourers' Siege.
The thing is though, Honourers are not that good for Sturks for a few reasons.
Number one, the units are high HP. 100 HP caverns once the tech comes in, even without the tech, 70 HP. Pretty decent.
Alright, we talk about bomber cannons. The bombers have way more range than the honorgers.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
So, I think things got good defense here in my opinion.
Uh, these bomber cannons, I think, so broken. They shoot a mile away, they move faster than Trebuchet.
What is this? Okay, 5th scapening.
I hate it, I think it's just a wipeout, no, for on Vaga.
Like you said, Singsync does not take a chance.
He does not see an option to win it easily.
No, I'm going to build up more resources, going to build up better army, GG.
Yeah, exactly that, exactly that. Doesn't want to take those risks.
Alright, we have skill-bounding armor coming in.
And we have a lot of Hissar, Hissar, Heavy Cab Archer, Bombard.
the combo for syncing that is the best composition for turks in late game, barring gunpowder or
barring extra gunpowder like elite genoceries and whatnot, but even someone argued that
the heavy cavalry is their best unit, so syncing scaling to an absolute powerhouse, waga going
for capped ram, going for heavy siege infantry, he loves the siege infantry, dude the rams
could be very interesting, but yo kudos to waga, he's making a game out of this,
we thought he was dead in the waters and dude this is not looking too bad for waga
right now I see a couple of monks on the field and while I have never used them
for anything else than aura farming holding the relics I would love to see
Vaga use it to heal units or maybe to even get these horses on his own side
yeah convert some units and whatnot big pincer flank here from sing sing and
charge from the left side some caverns just from the right he's gonna go in
looking at Dr. Otter's beautiful micro from sing sing he pulls back he goes
forward he's that daughter she got his both what are we seeing another split
sing sing wow excellent micro he took no damage from the daughter she stepped
three of them the stars do get cleaned up wagas playing a fantastic micro fight
as well beautiful beautiful micro multiple splits from sing sing this is
something you see out of a professional I'm honestly impressed how thank you
those horses are yeah I've seen them take a hit with the like they hit those
rocks with the head and they still stand. It's incredible.
He's still much forward here. Singsing looking to kill the last two siege weapons here, the
last two honorators, another beautiful split. It's almost become second nature. He dodges.
You just can't hit him. They call him Master Singh for a reason. Heavy Cavalry coming in.
Dude, Singsing is so good with his army and he's showing that that first game is
not going to define him as a player. He's looking to equalize the score and the
Wagamaga has tried his big push but it has completely failed.
Singsing with a 200-pop-turt composition, looking to push back now.
Fantastic play from the red player. Love it. Holy.
I don't know if you've seen, Wagamaga has sent his ram filled with the man inside onto the castle alone.
And it really felt like a desperation.
While the start was looking decent, now it seems like Vaga just ran out of ideas.
Yeah, I completely agree with you. I think he was desperately trying to get something in there.
He was missing a lot of upgrades. The Sardons weren't even elites.
And he didn't even have that many Rams. No C-Gram, just one Cap-Gram.
It was not the strongest push and I think he was a bit desperate. I think you're right about that.
I think how Vaga still produces Rams and they are in the position where they cannot deliver anything.
I can expect that this game is pretty much over and we are going to see GG in a minute.
As if I coming out here from Singsing, actually 20 HP on those Cavarkers going to make them 100 HP.
A fantastic technology of course. One Onager from Vaga. I'm struggling to see how we come back here.
here dropping a lot of production how would your tech is quite good but this
army competition is hard to use much of a much of flag oh oh he shot at all youth
there the honor just got one kill how at the moment
since since the this catapult she called like right no out of this way
yeah into the morgue monks and healing up I want to leave your attention guys
to the fact that Sink Sink is surrounding his monks so if Vaga would have archers for example
it would be impossible to snipe those guys and he does it on purpose while those guys heal.
Now I know that some of the monks have AOE heal. How do you know the difference?
No, only Sarasen monks have AOE heal that's not something worth remembering even it's just
one civilization most monks only heal one unit at a time but if you have multiple
monks you can get you know good healing over time of course. Do they have like a
mana or something? No no mana they can heal incidentally. So wow that's quite
strong. That's impressive. Yeah so now Waga's got like no chance to even kill
one of these units because they always need to be full HP and Sixie's gonna go
forward with a forward cast in here. We saw the barbards make sure we used
of those honorgers, short work of those honorgers excuse me, and yeah it's just 200
pop third composition guys, it's really hard to stop, look at how many stables we have,
15 stables here, another 3 here, this is fantastic, a lot of fresher from Sing Sing
with a lot of army composition or a lot of army production excuse me, to follow
it up. Look at that villager marching in, he's trying too much, the moon, look
at him stand, no. He was holding it to gold but it's not going to be enough
unfortunately, lag is trying one last push with the halban skirm, it's not bad from waga but I mean take a look at the
weapon from sing sing just easy target practice there hit and run, he hasn't lost a single
cavarcher, sing sing has not lost a single cavarcher this game, it's ridiculous.
How do you know? How do you know? I'm watching, I haven't seen one die, I haven't seen one die honestly.
I mean brother, a few minutes ago when I was talking about the resources collected,
it is pretty much even. But now having 126 villagers working on the backlines of Sing Sing
versus 90 on Vaga, the difference is just skyrocketing. And having only
134 versus 200, I don't see a way in which you win.
Yeah. No, at this point it's like we're just watching Sing Sing kind of put the final pieces
of the puzzle together fully upgraded heavy Cavaliers archers in the back.
Hussars are missing some upgrades but by the way I think he's got 96 Hussar in the queue.
Sixing has 96 Hussar in the queue. Yep that's what that's telling us. Somebody do the mass.
96 times. How much gold is that? Zero. What? Wait wait wait are you telling me these guys
do not cost gold it's a light cavalry they're not that strong it is a
stamina will count the unit they're not the strong bro they take my gun and
shots head on strong it has a decent amount of HP it is a good unit to be
fair it is a good unit in the defense of the SR here but right here this
right here on the screen with this qualified sing sing there's 200 men in
three tiles how how yeah it's control stacking that's legal actually that's a
good question actually remove it what is this well we want the devs to remove it
but the devs are busy working on the new DLC which will come out soon of course
But yeah, one cavalry did die so at least one has died but these guys have a hundred and forty kills by the way
a hundred and forty kills on those cavalry archers
Bombers pushing forward here and I used to be very impressed by that stacking
Yeah, you're kind of right actually I use it. It is kind of BS, right? They can stack so many units on one tile
All right, well play. Let's go right. Yeah, that's it GG. Wow sing sing
Gigi in the chat. We have a series on our hands. Ladies and gentlemen, Singsing bounces back with a game
One to one and these guys are as close of a matchup as I've seen all tournament
I'm beyond stoked that we're starting the day the best of fives with Singsing versus Wagamama
This has been fantastic and just want to give a quick shout out to Sleepy Z with the $10 donation
Thank you Sleepy Z for supporting the channel
Ayukshin, what do you make of Sing Sing's bounce back and how does Waga, who's going to go on Arabia, how does he respond?
Is it the best SIG or do you still, because it's the best of five, you still have some time in the series?
Do you try something a little spicy, a little different here? Talk to me.
So, being a one-trick pony myself, I think you have a strategy in mind,
But the moment you miss a step, or the moment the game goes in the wrong direction, it's very difficult to adapt.
While Sync Sync is... So, the Vantric pony usually tries to end the game already, get enemies by the surprise.
And I've lost games like this myself, I won games using this tactic.
But with the aim of Synxing to play the late game, he's always prepared.
So if I were Vaga in this situation, I would play my best civilization, which for him, either Romans or Armenians, I believe.
But Vaga Synxing knows about this, and he will respond with archers.
So if like there is a lot of mind game can be happening okay you expected to be
pushing with man-at-arms you can go archers yourself yeah you can build
forward the tower for example oh just boom build towers on the base against
archers and as you guys know towers do extra damage I believe against archers
So, honestly, sorry, I was gonna say, we'll see what they go for. I think they use the washroom actually.
So, Ayuk, please keep with your thoughts for a minute or so, I'll be right back.
Okay, how foolish of him to drop his headset and just walk off the screen.
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen, there is this wonderful Ukrainian streamer that you are listening to right now.
How about you drop a call again?
You know what I mean?
I mean, guys, he presented it to me on a golden plate!
I had to take it, had to take it. Anyway, gentlemen, I hope you're having a wonderful time.
I came into this tournament having zero experience in RTS games, and I had so much fun.
I know that you, on average, on average, we ask every chapter, on average, you played this game for 25 years.
This is nearly as long as I live.
Guys, you are crazy.
This game is no longer Age of Empires.
This is Age of Families.
Now on a serious note, can I see one in the chat if your kids are playing the game and
you are playing together with your kids?
I wouldn't be surprised.
That's insane.
Age of Empires 2 community is one of the strongest that I've seen and I have to say, I felt at home.
You guys are so welcoming. Thank you. Quite a lot of wands by the way.
You are very welcome. Yeah, it's because the game started and ended very fast, but I am back now.
Thank you, Aiyuki-san, for taking the time to fill in while I went to the washroom,
but we're back now with game three. And oh my goodness, we already have a lame.
Xinxing Lim, Xinxing Lim, Xinxing stole the one waga.
Oh my goodness. That's BM right there. That's very BM, it's like manners.
He didn't even take his cows, he went for the enemy boar. Bro, who is this guy?
Like, bro, you invited me into this tournament. Oh man, it's going to be so fun. Would you like to
participate? Yes, of course. And you put me against him! Bro, he's not having fun, no!
No!
No, Sing Sing, Sing Sing has fun when he wins and he does win quite often to be fair and
he does anything it takes to win including stealing his opponent's boar.
So Sing Sing has stolen Wagas' boar and a little bit of a fast forward due to the technical
difficulty there but we're back now to live and Wagas like where the hell is my boar?
I could have swore it was here.
He might have to rely on his deer.
What's for dinner?
So Sing Sing is taunting him.
Sing Sing is taunting him.
No!
That's crazy.
He didn't!
Brother!
No pig!
Okay, what does it mean for Armenians?
What does it mean for Wagga?
Missing 325-360 food?
Yeah, no, it's a big deal.
So, 340 food, now extra for Sing Sing, and that's 340 food less for Wagga.
So it's a 680 food swing, and Wagga is trying to cope here, berries is very good
for you.
I mean listen, it's not too late to go vegan start, you know farming up go for the berries
Swagga is down a bore here
He does have some cows though and does have some ostriches, so he will be fine
but
Playing as the Armenians. I like to play that early game infantry
You don't you know, you don't always
Survive and and you don't always have enough res to go for that push with the long swords in that early feudal age
Due to not having that bore so he could be in some trouble now
with that early game rush, but I just want to mention here that Vietnamese actually have a nice bonus.
They get to see the enemy location from the start of the game, by the way.
So, yeah, Sing Sing was able to use that Vietnamese bonus to spot the boar instantly,
and that's why Sing Sing was able to lane so fast.
I understand. So, what you usually do is that you get your stuff around the base,
all the pigs, all the cows, to be able to keep making villages and advance to the funeral age.
But because of these bonuses, and can you showcase it once again?
Yeah, of course.
SingSync knew exactly where to go.
And that's so high level now?
Yeah, it's great.
Like, he's using the bonuses that the civilization provides, and Waga probably was not expecting that.
I mean, we did see Singsing lame a lot, but the speed at which he stole this boar is really fast.
So I don't think Waga was expecting the speed of, you know, Singsing just coming straight across the map.
But I have to say, great play from Singsing to use that bonus and steal a boar, but excellent adaptation from Waga.
He is up same timing like he normally has, a little bit of idle time due to having less food.
As I mentioned earlier, the rush is a bit delayed maybe, but still overall pretty decent setup here.
He's going to have the Barracks come up, he's going to have the Mulecourt on the gold,
and everything is more or less okay here for Waga, which is fantastic.
So, we recovered from Waga and a great play from Sing Sing,
but overall both players continue the game here in AD's in position.
I would like to highlight Armenians, which I found a lot of fun.
Can we see the Mulecourt?
Yes.
If you guys didn't know, Armenians have this transportable unit that can act both to gather wood, stone and gold.
And if you are lucky with the map seat, you can put this thing in between gold and wood.
Or it moves together with the wood line.
As you guys chop through the forest, it keeps coming and you don't have to build another lumber camp.
It's so much fun. If you haven't tried it already, give it a shot.
Plus, if I'm correct, our Armenians have free upgrade in Feudal Age. Is that correct?
No, no, that's the Bulgarians.
That's the Bulgarians.
That's the Bulgarians. But what Armenians have is that the fact that they have access to longsorts
and they have access to all infantry upgrades one age earlier.
So for example, militia here will become men of arms.
Normally, Sims have to wait till Castles to get longswords, or minions can get longswords in the feudal age, which is a huge advantage.
Hello, I'm sorry to interrupt. Can we see the blue dots on the base?
Oh my goodness, Waga's stolen two cows back. He's stolen two cows back from Sing Sing. What's for dinner? Tell him back.
What's for dinner, Waga? Oh, that would be a great taunt.
I would like to highlight the fact that Sing Sing kept his scout on the barracks.
This scout has been leaking the walls of the barracks, putting his ear inside the barracks to know that the push is coming.
So this by no means is a surprise.
And I don't see a follow-up from Vagamaga to build a tower on the gold of Singsing to deny the archer productions.
Oh my goodness.
There's no defense here. There's no defense. Oh my god.
This is insane. Singsing is completely formal here.
No way.
Waga comes in, snags the villager, of course!
Of course he snags the villager on the berries, long stood upgrade coming in 15 seconds.
Waga was destroying the ladder with the strategy,
and despite, like you said, okay, the nice wall, the archer opening from Sing Sing to counter the infantry,
he just completely left his berries exposed.
He did not have to do that.
One villager dead right away, but...
It does have the archers now.
Yookson, how do you feel about defending with the archers here against the infantry?
Pretty good, right?
Uh, it's very annoying because you can never catch them.
Yes.
So, my instincts are so much...
OH MY GOD!
There's a hole! There's always a hole! None of these players know how to hole!
11 in the chat, he's talking to him! This is terrible for Singsing!
Incredible! And now, pay attention at his army split.
He... Waga Maga is gonna be splitting his army in 16 different places
and not going to lose a single one to the TC. This looks very grim for Singsing.
This is Prime Waga. This is Prime Waga. Singsing has blundered with that hole.
He's gonna relocate his woodline here, but take a look at Waga.
I actually had a great call out there.
Look at the splits. We did a whole video on this guy on the YouTube channel
showing this amazing strategy that he dominated the rank ladder race with.
He jumped to 1650 with it in just a few days,
and take a look at this splitting all over the place.
Sing Sing cannot keep up.
He's trying to defend with archers, but there's two long shots up top.
A villager goes down. There's already three villagers killed.
Sing Sing is in such big trouble.
He taunted earlier with the war lame,
but all good that you do comes back to you and all bad that you do comes back to you.
and Wagga here, with three villagers killed, Wagga is feeling great right now.
Gentlemen, pay attention at the Vorker efficiency at the bottom right. While Wagamama is rampaging
in the base of the Sing Sing, he's keeping up with production on his own, making it totally
impossible for Sing Sing to keep up with his plans. And that means that if he's
not going to make any drastic changes. This is a loss for Singsing quite quickly.
Yeah, and like Singsing... I cannot believe what I'm seeing.
Trying to recover, right? He's trying to recover. He's got a few farms. He's still making villagers.
It's not a terrible position for Singsing. It's still playable, but it's certainly not a
fun one. He loses another villager and Wagga is just so good at, you know, looping around.
He'll loop around. Shout out to Yamato. Got a little looping action going on here
with the long swordsman and he's finding a lot of kills. Look at that!
He goes out of vision, comes back in, sinks in, has no idea they're coming back, and boom, another dead villager.
Another dead villager. He's in the corner of the woods.
Something that Vagadus absolutely brilliantly is that he does not attack an enemy before he's very close.
He approaches those villagers from the position where they cannot run to the TC, trapping them in the wood lines.
This is incredible. Something that I would absolutely love to see is a forward tower.
Now, that's what I would do.
Khera. Is it a good idea? Is it a bad idea?
Well, let's talk about this Gold Rage first, another dead villager.
And like you said, he's trapping those villagers always, looking to block their escape towards the Town Center.
Singsing does have some archers behind this one. He's defending quite nicely.
This is good micro from Singsing.
Waga continued to push forward with some nice pressure onto this range. You talked about that tower,
a tower forward here would actually be fantastic. Tower behind the woodline, forcing him away from
the only safe woodline that Tinseng has access to, it would be a great strategy, Aiyuksin. However,
a lot of the players are just not practicing the forward tower and therefore not really keen
to pull it out. You know what I mean? They're sticking to the comfort zone.
I'm honestly surprised I've lost this tournament, brother.
Now he would already have three towers around his base.
Yeah, you would, I think you died too early.
You needed a little bit more time and you could even beat me in this tournament.
With just a few more weeks of practice. We're looking quite good actually.
I don't need weeks bro. Like one coaching from you, one less that you gave to Grubby
and you would be in my hands.
But that's why I'm coaching Grubby because I don't see the threat that he provides.
Whereas you are you said I gotta be careful man. I'm working. This is my salary. I can't just give up my position is number one here
Speaking of positioning though. This is fantastic wagas coming back in again
Always just so hard to deal with take a look at things that he sees the men arms come in or the long suits
Excuse me, but he's chasing this one. He's chasing shadows right now. This guy goes out of vision
There's two look around split. It's crazy. I'm starting to think wagas playing for the six hands
It's crazy. How does he do this?
He's all around, look at this.
I bet he has zero control groups.
I've watched so many hours on his stream, zero control groups.
Can you believe that?
He's drag select every single group of these units.
He's just working twice as hard and he's making it work somehow.
Look at this, knocking on the back wall, he will break in here, knocking on the
range just to distract Singsing.
Singsing repairs the range, forgets about the wall, Singsing does not see this,
chasing shadows he's gonna fight them at arms down here sorry the longsword I
keep forgetting but all the quick wall no way the quick wall reaction but of
course it does mean they say lose some archers up top waga is all over
syncing guys way this is crazy swagger mama managing economy banking
villagers of raiding and not losing a single unit to the TC honestly I would
build a monument in the name of Waga. That's impressive. He is what I dreamed to become.
Quite the inspirational story here from Waga. Will you find the next generation of
men of armed rushers? Ayuki said of course, you wouldn't just become him. You'd become him,
but better with that tower follow up. But I have to say, even without the tower,
Waga's done so much damage. He's going to go in for the farm villager. No freaking way.
He's nice in low HP farm villager eight kills syncing it's completely
flustered and there's a hole on the woodline there's a hole in the woodline
lag is coming in syncing walls though syncing walls holy
he doesn't oh still open though it's still open
I mean if bro if I am those longswords I would squeal in between those trees for
sure and he's gonna pass through the way so bad
I am proud to cast this. It's so exciting. This gameplay gives me chills. This gameplay
keeps me alive. Brother, I kid you not, today my wife said I was talking in my sleep. She
said you said two words. Forward castle! She said you are cooked, bro. This game is
It's not healthy.
It's consuming you, Aeuston.
But why Forward Castle and not Forward Tower?
I feel like you've never done a Forward Castle in your life.
I see the vision in my dreams.
Oh, okay. It's coming.
It's coming. The Forward Castle is coming.
The dream is a premonition, maybe.
But so far, the only thing that's coming is Wagamama's launchers.
Look at this. Another villager goes down.
It's just 11 kills.
Dead.
Villagers just walking all over the place.
is all over Singsing and I have to say Singsing here besides that hole has played a decent defense a lot of players on the rank ladder
Would already resign at this point Singsing is holding on he's playing a lot of archer defense
But Wagamama ladies and gents is almost up to cast lich in fact. He should be clicking anytime now
He killed a bunch of villagers 15 villager kills now cast lich coming in and Wagas looking to close this game out in
Good style what a game what a play and what a pressure from Wagamama's Armenians despite being a bored down
He's all over Singsing and it's a beauty to see
He took his board
But since like Vaga is going to take this map for himself. Yeah, and if you guys ever tried to
Play in such aggressive manner yourself
You know how difficult it is to manage your economy and we can clearly see this from the start of idle TC
almost seven minutes of not making villagers and
That would be a strategy
It would be over, but having killed 16 villagers, this is very, very, very good.
I have to say though, this game is not 100% over for Sing Sing. Let me tell you guys a story here.
I'm not saying he's in a win, I'm not saying he's even close to coming back, but in a world where you get up to Cassage in the next couple minutes,
and he just defends with archers and really turtles, there is a world where you can just get to Crossbowmen,
and crossbows do kind of counter this unit, especially when you get Ballistics.
So, in theory, a Singsing is very far behind, of course,
but there is a small glimmer of hope for our Singsing.
Maybe he can just maybe hold on, but it is looking tough.
Maybe the Castlege will finish him off here.
Waga still lurking in the shadows
and will wait for the Castlege to finish before looking for a proper engagement here.
Would you love to see Waga bringing a little bit of the economy onto the stone
to finish this with the forward castle.
Trying to make your dream a reality, Aiksen. I like it.
I don't think you need a forward castle here.
I think what I'd like to see instead of the forward castle is just
extra upgrades on the infantry and maybe a forward siege workshop.
But he's gonna go, yeah, two and a tranches is fantastic. This is great.
If I'm correct, once those upgrades... Oh my God!
Guys, he's going to nuke the TC, I think.
I was told by the coaches, you get these upgrades,
You see this blue-white thingy?
You get that, you go under TCGG.
If we spot a few villagers forward for the siege workshop,
that means Vanga is preparing to end this game on the spot.
Yeah, Singsing's up to Castlage, one minute and a half to go.
He needs to buy a lot of time here.
Vaga could go for the Townsend now.
It is a legitimate option.
He's going to get 200 swordsmen.
These are Imperial Age units in Castlage,
due to the Armenians.
You could actually get Champions, by the way.
You could get Champions in Castlage if you want.
the final imp upgrade on these swordsmen we did a castle
take over the town center it's time to sing Gigi's called the men have arrived
and Wagga takes game two well oh game game three excuse me
well played Gigi for him holy i cannot believe it
this is incredible down a bore down a bore
goes to the town center he pressures sing he tells him it's time
Wagga is now one game away from knocking out a sing-sing
who many people consider the dark horse of the losers bracket, but if I know anything about Sincsteen,
he's not going to give up to the last moment. He still has a chance to reverse this on to Waga
and to win the last two maps, but it's due or die now for Sincsteen. He has one match,
one map away from losing the entire tournament and getting knocked out by his teammate or his
former teammate, Waga Mama. Crazy, crazy storyline here. I would like to point out
that vaga maga has played the same strategy he played on the ladder everybody knows what he's going
to do you ask your grandma what vaga is going to play she's going to say she's going to play
armenians manate arborars at minute eight everybody knows about this but having mastered his craft
He managed to knock down Singsing.
With counter archers, he did what he knows the best.
This is impressive.
Wow. While I go to the bathroom, now you take over, Broga.
Perfect.
I'm playing some ads now, between the games.
I'm so sorry about those getting ads during the games.
I'm trying my best guys.
between games I have to eat, I have to go to the bathroom to play ads.
There's a lot of things that need to happen, but I am trying my best.
It's the first time that I'm running an event, so if things are not perfect,
I ask you guys to bear with me, but I do appreciate the feedback.
I am genuinely trying my best.
We're waiting for the next match to start.
We can see both cameras here.
They're locked into thinking, Singsing has a very important decision to make.
What map does he go for on this next game?
Does he go Arabia?
Does he go back to arena?
It's Sing Sing's home map, and Waga is just waiting for the decision now. Let's see.
See how it plays out.
No lobby yet though.
How many viewers do we have by the way? Oh my goodness. I think this might be a record.
Over 5,000 on YouTube, over 12,000 on Twitch. This is fantastic. Let's just do this.
Type a 1 in the chat because I'm having a good time enjoying the King's Gauntlet, enjoying some Age of Empires too on a fine Saturday.
Of course, this is the King's Gauntlet Day 3, we have today, and we have tomorrow, which
will be the last day, and I also want to remind you guys that we have on Monday, due to an
anonymous donator that has put $7,000 plus anonymously, we have team games on Monday.
So after the events, I'm going to put these players, the same players from the tournaments,
up against each other in a 4v4 or a 3v3.
How cool is that?
That is fantastic.
People were asking about team games.
We're gonna have it due to the anonymous donator that pledged seven thousand dollars to the event
So when I tell you guys that the support for the event has been off the charts
I mean super off the charts and you guys watching every single one of you is
Really contributing to making this event a success and already it's a massive success. So thank you all for being here
Thank you all for enjoying the show and I feel like I'm like the biggest fan
I think I'm enjoying the show the most like I was just having such a good time and normally you're thinking about like I
I need to make sure I'm casting well, okay, let's make sure I'm getting the right comments in
But I'm just literally watching this as a fan first and foremost which makes things awesome on my side of things as well
I still don't have the lobby code by the way, so I guess they still haven't hosted
Let me try to give them a bump here just to see if
Just see if they can they started already they're playing they are already playing I don't have a code. This is crazy
crazy. This is crazy. I need a code. I need a code. Um, well that's one way to kill the
momentum. Um, all right. Uh, normally a chatter or someone gives me the code, but looks to
the dashboard
i think i think roxy roxy actually told me how to do it
Oh my goodness, Roxy's the goal.
Oh my, the wifey, with the frickin' tips.
How do you even know this?
How do I not know this?
This is fantastic, it's a technical difficulty
but we're hopping back in, this is crazy.
Roxy with the frickin' tips.
And we're going right in.
And here we are guys, ladies and gents,
we're hopping back into this game
and it's gonna be Arabia.
Wow, Singsing brings Wagamama back to Arabia.
Singsings playing the trusted Magyars, but Wagamama is playing his Romans.
Dude, the Romans are very, very strong.
We've seen the infantry from the Armenians.
The Romans were the second best civilization for the Wagamama on the rank ladder.
Magyars have also been very, very solid as well in their own right for Singsing.
He won a game against Uthermul on Redisette Fortress using the Magyars.
We've all seen it.
He's got excellent Cavarter micro as well.
See if Singsing can make use of the Magyars here and somehow defend against the Romans from Waga.
What a fantastic series this has been so far. Great play from both Sings and Waga.
They both, I think, overperformed in their own rights on different games.
And now we're in a must-win situation for Singsing.
But if Waga wins, he wins the set.
It's going to start by walling off a little bit here.
A little unorthodox to be doing that, but his map is a little strange.
He's got that massive Woodlunt in the front, so he's got to make use of that by walling up a little bit.
So far, so good. He'll go to the back and grab some of those chickens.
Very lovely chickens. He actually has all the chickens the same color, by the way, which is interesting.
Normally, they're a bit of a mix. Yeah, Waga, look at that.
Looks like a yellow chicken, a brown yellow chicken purist.
I think the RNG on that is pretty low, even though it doesn't matter at all for the game.
It's only aesthetic, of course.
But Wagah here. Welcome back.
With a cool question.
Oh, perfect.
Magyars is the archer save, right?
Magyars is a cavalry or cavalry archer save.
It can do pretty much everything, but I would say it's primarily a cavalry save, I would say, yeah.
So what would be the opening for Sing Sing, you think?
Which units, military units, come out first?
So Sing Sing with the Magyars, historically in the Rank Ladder race,
was playing a lot of Scout Rush. In fact, I think he should open with a Scout Rush here with the
Maggers. It's the best way to take advantage of their military bonus. They get free attack
upgrades on Cavalry, and they also get cheaper Scouts. So Maggers are actually very powerful
with their double bonus Scout Rush. However, the Romans, we know the Romans are the most
played civilization in this tournament so far, and Romans have a great double armor infantry
three-man arm rush in the early game.
So both players have good strategies for the early game.
But Singsing's up first at the feudal age.
They're going to get started with some scouts, most likely.
If I'm correct, you cannot produce scouts until feudal
age, while Singsing could potentially
has prepared his army, starting in the Dark Age,
using the barracks.
So, if the timing is perfect, that would give a little bit of an advantage to Vaga, and
before those scouts come out, he would already have the army on the hands of the...
Yeah, that's actually a fantastic commentary, Aiyuksen.
I just want to let you know that I know you might think that you don't know much about
the game, but you actually know quite a bit in your three weeks of grind.
I'm very impressed with that.
It's spot-on commentary here.
Vaga, despite being a little slower to fuel it, can prepare his militia in
you'll see you make the barracks right away with the militia production,
whereas in the feudal age here, if you make the barracks, house,
then you're going to see the stable.
And only once the stable is built can Waga, sorry,
can Singsing make the scout.
And so, excellent points.
So despite the feudal age time coming in a little later,
Waga might be the guy attacking here if he wants to, with his army.
Something that I haven't seen Waga do a lot is rolling.
falling. I can expect him to be playing it very defensive. Do Romans have any advantage
whatsoever to play defensive?
Yeah, you got tons of options, of course. You have the Metaarm Rush that likes to play
offensive, of course, initially, but then after that, once you pick up the armor for the
Metaarms, the armor still helps defensive spearmen. So you can put defensive spears
with plus two armor on all your exposed resources. Very, very strong defensive option. You
You can always make a tower, as well as the walls that we see here from Waga Mama.
So a lot of defensive options from Waga here, they can easily come out and help him out
on defense versus those pesky Magyars.
So Scouts on the field for Sing Sing, or Scouts starting to come out onto the field now.
I love the building locations for Sing Sing, except I think that's a little too close
to the gold.
But besides that, this house is perfect for the wall.
Barracks beautifully placed, house walling perfectly to protect the berries as well.
So Sing Sing is setting up his map correctly.
But here we go.
The first one to attack with his militia.
I'm now starting to see the power of Walling from Waga.
Since he has Mangirs, he probably knows that those are the Scouts.
And so by making up Walls, he wins time for himself, not to get easily sniped.
Basically protecting himself from what he did to Sing Sing.
I just want to say here, Romans have had an incredibly high win rate on the ranked ladder
and on the term it so far
uh... syncing if you win this game which he has to be very impressive and he's
gonna look to take this fight here there's a militia
great time from syncing but they're about to become an arms is it good enough
the armor's not in all my goodness syncing has found a beautiful timing
the armor's just now in the ladies and gentlemen there's no more men arms
wow
pixel
perfect timing
from syncing and he clears up the men arms the entire rush is dead and
syncing now the counterattack
do just as i say how impressive would be to hold the romans he thinks a
a beautiful fight, literally a second before Waga's men and arms come in.
Beautiful, beautiful engagement from Singsing, now he's the guy attacking, fantastic.
Have Waga delayed the fight for like 10 seconds?
I think it would have been over, and now men and arms would be
rank-patching on the Singsing's base again.
But the situation is changing.
More men and arms coming?
We have.
Waga's not going defensive spirit, he actually wants to attack again.
He wants to attack again, it's crazy.
Yeah, one more minute of arms into production and those guys are marching forward.
And it makes sense, right? Because it's got the walls.
You see the vision now, Aikson, right? The walls to defend yourself?
Yes.
All the army forward? It makes a lot of sense.
Singsing is looking for something, but...
Impressive.
Yeah, super impressive from Wagas.
He's gonna go across the map here with four men of arms.
Singsing, what's the reply? He's gonna make more scuff cavalry for the time being.
really get some pressure on but he hasn't really been able to do much against Waga's defense here.
Nice walls and the town center kills the scouts and now it's all Waga on the offensive with the men arms.
Can we switch to the POV from Waga? I want to see what he sees right now.
Okay, so he doesn't really know that the back of the map is not walled and I can totally see
him at some point, discover this weakness as the back of the base from Sing Sing is just
Yeah, good body block there from Singsing, but as you said, the back is open, it could
be walled pretty easily, but I don't even think Singsing knows that he can wall that easily,
he doesn't see the wood line, of course we see everything as easy as the caster perspective.
Singsing only with some scouts in the field, but there's no spearmen here, so scouts
can fight this, but only if they take a good engagement.
Wagga is watching out though, he's paying attention with the military, I think
we need more scouts here.
Think about scouts, they do not have an upgrade to give them extra HP.
So I've noticed that only now does Sing Sing put 2 on gold and until then it was only food
and mood.
Since you don't need gold to produce horses, it's only food, I believe 80.
He does not have upgrades on the scouts, so they aren't in the front time yet.
If you get Bloodlines, of course, doing extra HP, but without that upgrade, it's gonna be
so hard to fight these Roman men-arms that have the extra armor.
Even with the Hill Advantage, you just couldn't quite find the fight.
Singsing is in a kind of bad position here.
He picked off one more, which is quite nice.
He's trying to use his micro advantage with those scouts and that extra mobility.
That's kind of cleared up now, though, but there's another men-arm that's come
to join his brother-in-arms.
More scouts coming out.
I want floodlands to come in for sing sing
Do you know how how much food does it require to produce one minute arms?
Yeah, so it's 50 food and 20 gold for each minute arm and it's 68 food for the scouts for maggers
Oh, there's a hole. Oh my god. Oh my god
No, it's normally a food but maggers get a discount so 68 for them
Okay, so the one-to-one trades are very much on the hands of Singh Singh.
Yeah, it's pretty even.
I would say it's pretty even.
It's not much cheaper.
It's 70 researches for the Meta Arm and 68 for the Scout.
So it's about even, actually, I would say, in terms of total research expense.
No villager has died yet, by the way, which is a miracle.
It's a miracle, but in comes the spear.
Once the spear comes, you cannot fight this army.
Lag is in a good position.
Lag is in a very good position here.
Wow.
I cannot believe that a man can perform the same trick over and over again and be this successful.
Now what I would like him to...
What I would love to see from him is the discoverability on the back of Woodline.
I'm seeing those villagers and I'm licking my lips bro.
Which ones?
Woodline of Sing Sing.
Oh yeah, these ones here, yeah of course.
Oh my... oh...
Super juicy. But you can't really get there. Second stable and that's on Walsh from
Syncing, so you should have blocked that woodland off. I think Syncing's fine, but
him committing to double stable scouts with Bloodlands is a very interesting
choice, but we're talking about this Bloodlands tech. It's super super useful
for the scouts. It's going to give them each plus 20 HP, putting them at a
total of 65. You need this upgrade if you want to fight the infantry long-term.
Syncing keeps going back to these berries, but you cannot really fight
these berries. We need to wait for Bloodlands. I think Sing Sing is trying to go in here.
He's not Wagar off the ground though.
Yeah, Wagar has his military on stand ground, so they do not attack immediately. And because
of that, Sing Sing was able to get a couple of hits for free.
Still, not the best fight for Sing Sing. Like Sing Sing clears it up, but also Wagar
killed a few scouts. Bloodlands is now in, so now the scouts are going to be
Scouts are going to be the strongest they've ever been.
It's Men-Armed Flood.
It's Men-Armed Spam from Wagga.
Two Barracks for him.
A lot of Scouts on the field.
I'd like to see Singsing get away from those berries.
You don't need these berries.
You can just make farms at the back.
You can send them to Wood.
You've got options here.
Him being on the front of the berries is so risky and he might get punished by these
Men-Arms.
Oh, Wagga doesn't see.
Wag...
Oh, he sees it now.
Previously, Wagga has destroyed the building.
Just the house.
Why not target, let's say, a windmill?
Yeah, I think you should target the windmill, in my opinion, actually.
Hitting a house is nice.
I think you want to break in and go to the other side.
But I think, in general, hitting the stable, hitting the windmill,
is definitely a good option.
Singsing is saving up for the castlights, by the way.
He now has bloodline scouts.
They perform quite well into these meta arms.
You need to fight with all the meta arms.
You're going to kill these guys.
The spearmen, though, heavy, heavy counter to the scouts
at this point.
I think this fight is in favor of Vwaga, I think the spearman is going to tank too much.
There's so many metal arms, sink sinks, they get a disastrous fight, disastrous fight right
before Castle Age.
That's not what you need.
There's a hole.
I'm going to pass that hole.
Okay.
Oh my goodness.
This is so epic.
It's so intense.
He'll go for the stable.
Are you saying he'll go for the stable?
I want to sync right now to snipe the reinforcements. Having advantage in the mobility, he can make sure that these guys that are being sent one by one by one by one.
I'm never going to make it to the base. And we've syncing sync Mikro his villagers perfectly under pressure.
So instead of throwing themselves at this huge group, I would make sure that it does not get bigger.
Oh, a stack patrol downhill! Stack patrol downhill! These guys know all the tricks!
But he's kind of messed it up!
What's the HP of this table?
Tables down to 500 HP.
He's gonna hit up some reinforcements.
Very nice. Just what you wanted to see.
Ieuksen. Ranges at the back.
I think Sing Sing's close to the next age, but he's just making a bunch of scouts.
Repairing the table, trying to stay alive.
Sing Sing's holding up for dear life.
The score is neck and neck. This could be a really big engagement right now.
Waga turns to take it, but defenders advantage is there, scouts coming out of the stable ready to fight
with the hillbill, and I think Singsing will win this fight, he's gonna take it
Singsing needs this fight, and he'll get it, Singsing will clear up this army, gets the score lead
Singsing is still alive, holy...
This is impressive, now all of this army from Waga that was marching forward needs to be organized
and make sure they do not die, because then a lot of forces in your base very very soon
Yeah. Good downhill hits with the spear.
Oh my god!
Holy shit!
So many kills full of frames!
Yeah, 10,000 same.
It was downhill hits with the spears.
Three scouts die for no reason.
And Waga, up to Castle Age, up to Castle Age pretty quick, thinks he needs to get there.
He's so close to clicking up, by the way.
He does cancel a couple of scouts and get there.
He's switching to a range now.
He's got three stables.
I feel like he's...
Why not market to sell stone and click up?
Market would be great, but I think Sing Sing is just so caught up in the moment.
He'll make a tower that's also good.
He's up to castleage now.
He's a minute behind.
The game is still really close.
I think Sing Sing has two good options.
You can go Knights in castleage or you can go Cavarchers.
Both are decent options with the Maggards.
It's a cavalry base.
By the way, we talked about this last time.
Battle TC from Wagamama, 4 minutes and 13 seconds, so Singsing has a great villager lead
right now over his opponent Wagamama.
Wow, brilliant catch, and while previously this number was around 6 minutes at this point
of time, we had a lot of villager kills from Wagam, while now it's literally 0.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Zero attacks on the villagers.
Zero villager kills from either side.
Now have we been seeing non-stop fighting for about 16 minutes ever since minute 10 and not a single kill of a villager has been found from either player.
I want to see Sing Sing go for Scorpions. Let me tell you guys about the Scorpions here real quick. Scorpions is a seed unit that can counter all things infantry.
And I think Sing Sing kind of needs to lean on that or else he's going to be fighting really tanky pikemen.
And it's hard to fight tanky pikemen, especially if you're on cavalry which they counter.
Something that I don't understand is the decision of breaking a house instead of breaking the
first barracks.
While it's not on the hill, so Vaga is going to have an advantage by breaking it.
Why do you think he sends everything on the house?
Yeah, so hitting houses is okay because killing houses, they're a bit squishier than
some of the other buildings, so it's okay to go for that.
Little stack with your micro onto those buildings by the way. Waga clearly got some coaching on how to do that, or he figured it out himself and it's quite impressive.
A bit of an exploit in some ways. Shout out to Spiffing Brits of how the unit passing and unit stacking works in this game.
We're going to stack his units up and try to take out some of these buildings.
Pykeman now coming in. Armor is in. Long Sword is in. This army is very very strong.
Sing Sing is going to lean on to the cab archers to try to help out here.
He's got a lot of scouts, but no light cab upgrade.
I feel like if you get light cab here, it could be really good.
But at the same time, it's not enough versus the pike, you need something else, and that's
where the cab archers come to be.
Yeah, I always hate to fight against archers.
Oh no way!
Oh my god!
He's diving!
This is brilliant!
I don't think Sing Sing's ready to fight him!
There's a hill at the back as well!
Speaking about no Villager Snipes, you have to make sure to stay on the top of the hill to have the kill advantage.
An army on the top of the hill has 25% damage bonus.
It's Domination.
The whole army! Where is Domination?
Oh my goodness, Sing Sing's about to lose. He's about to get knocked out of the tournament from Wagamama.
What a crazy fight for the pikemen. What a huge dive.
Dive! Thinks he was not ready with the Cavalters!
Singsing's defense been a huge question mark in the Lana race
and he just completely slipped on this defense. 15 eco kills!
Singsing has lost 15 villagers already!
He went from 0 to 15, the shit is hit the fan and Wagamama is cleaning up house!
Thinks he's in trouble!
Can he come back? He needs to show us something right now.
Wow!
Bro, what we are going to see is Wagamama splitting his army in 17 different places
and making sure not a single villager gets a touch of any resources.
This is absolutely incredible.
Gentlemen, W-Aga in the chat, this is unprecedented performance.
Coming into this game with the bone of my core, I believe that Sync Sync is the favorite.
I think everyone would have said Sync Sync is the favorite.
He had more elo, he had more potential that we saw in the ranked ladder race.
Potentially one of the dark horses of the entire event,
but Wagamama is about to take him out.
His former teammates and X-Dota 2 Pro, they both are, but Wagamama shows to be the better
age of Empire's 2 player, at least, at least better than Singsing in the Arabia Arena matchups.
Well, Arena was for Singsing, but Wagamama took home Fortress and took home both Arabias,
if you can close this game out.
Singsing's in big trouble.
He's running the villagers away.
He's got some Cowardger Micro, which is his kind of bread and butter, but no Watkenera.
I feel like Wagga is in the zone right now.
Damn.
We are seeing a siege workshop of warbird coming up.
So we are going to take a couple of...
Wow. GG.
And... yep.
GG, good luck for them. GG, man.
GG in the chat. The first upset of the king's gauntlet.
Wagga has knocked out Sing Sing.
And I just want to say, first of all, GG in the chat.
Really, really well played for Wagga.
This has been an incredible, incredible performance and I absolutely loved everything he's brought to the table here.
Huge, huge well played here and I honestly think Singsing played pretty well.
But it's hard to stop the infantry. Wagon goes back to back of Ravenwinds with the infantry.
And it is real quick guys. 07 is in the chapter of Singsing.
He gets knocked out of the tournament but my goodness that he put on a crazy ladder grind.
His streams were so entertaining to watch.
He's an absolute legend in his own right. Huge, huge respect to SingSing. I love the guy. I love what he's brought to the table.
I love what he's brought to the King Scarlet. And I really think if he had not met Waga, he might have made a very deep run in this event.
But Waga just had his number. Aiyuksen, how did you enjoy the set and talk to me? What are you feeling right now?
I mean, honestly, I appreciate the efforts you put into the script.
You fed me to SingSing to boost his ego.
And my boy Waga brought him in his play.
Honestly, my smile is from one ear to the other.
I am extremely happy.
I am proud to be a part of this.
Impressive.
Yeah, super impressive from Waga.
Now, listen, you got Fethi Syncing early,
but there's always a bigger fish in the sea,
and Waga today has proved to be the bigger man.
But seriously, well played to both.
Waga, that's gonna be a nice, nice waiter,
I'm going to be coming back and try with those struts that Vagamaga was showing.
So gentlemen, thank you for having me. Please enjoy the tournament and until the next time.
Thank you, I use and have a good one brother
There you have a guys check out I use and if you like what he brought he streams a lot of world tanks
It is a really really nice guy a lot of energy a lot of good vibes check him out on a twitch and YouTube
I use and thank you so much for being a part of this event. He also played in the event and he's casted beautifully
What a fantastic fantastic set. I'm still processing what we're seeing
I'm gonna see if we can get syncing in for a kind of you know a little talk before he leaves
He's he's made top eight guys. It's not a loss that goes without prize pool. He's in a walkaway with some money
I think it's $250 for the top eight finishers
So congrats to syncing get some little prize pool before leaving and he definitely had a good results getting a top eight result
Is not bad at all. Wagamama will move on to the quarterfinals. Let's see if it is updated here
Very very well played from a wagam and syncing just drops out. It's crazy. He was tearing through the bracket
He had a tough round versus a you thermal obviously lost to one of the favorites of the event that he chewed aqua to owed death notes and
Now just just fell short of a waga mama
This is absolutely fantastic here Captain Lance you thermal grubby pig in the upper bracket
But next up we should have a truck versus Knopf by the way. Let me just see if we're gonna get sing sing in here and
Sing sing grubby has just showed me a picture
Grubby has just showed me a picture, Singsing cannot believe the hole
Singsing cannot believe the hole in that Vietnamese game. He's saying how the hell is this a hole?
Absolute disaster
Get game, dude the devs got you
He's walking full of fucking practice targets
I'll keep that in the screen a little longer.
Facebook took my Adarmas.
Fucking face, which long swordsman dude.
I will play it, Waga. Totally deserves.
I hope you fucking don't lose the very next game you fuck.
No!
Why didn't you win? You're much better dude.
The thing is, Waga, up next you're going to play one of the captains for sure, right?
upper brackets captain be captain captain be captain so why get you have to
outperform a captain to make it through past the next round it's gonna be a
tough round took out syncing of course how do you feel for the next round of
course now syncing spent a lot of pressure on you how are you feeling
going up against a captain next let's talk about you first is it well is it
grubby pig or is it captain you thermal that I'm getting next I'm not
sure which one I'm facing who knows I could tell you why I do not feel
confident against 75% of them. Let's say it that way. Okay, so yeah, you'll kick grubby
ass. I agree with that. It makes a lot of sense. It's gonna be a tough match for you most likely.
But Sing Sing, I want to talk about you right now. You know, holes aside, how do you feel
about this event? How'd you enjoy your time both in the ladder race and in the main
event bracket? First of all, I can say that I loved having you there. I really enjoyed
your streams and I love what you brought to the table. How do you feel about
it.
Really nice, really cool game.
The 14-hound bracket is a fucking dog shit place to be in, it's filled with smirks, but
otherwise it's really, really fun to play.
Thank you for having me man, like it was really enjoyable, like interacting with the other
players, like running a remore during the game.
It's all like a really, really cool experience, I loved it.
I love to hear that man, I love to hear that.
And of course you dropped your X-team mate, good friend, Wagamama, so it's not
a disappointing result as well.
Top 8 finish for you, Sing Sing, it's not bad at all.
What do you want to say to the chat before we move on to the next series here?
Just cheer for Waga. He's carrying the Dodo torch right now, and if he fails,
know that he's the reason why there's no fucking Dodo player in Toxer.
It's fucking bitch, can I get a perform now? No question, by the way.
There you have it there. Sting Sting, thank you so much for joining.
And we'll be moving on next to the HR versus Kroff matchup.
And I think Waga, you are casting as well.
So shout out to both of you. Sting Sting, thank you so much for joining us.
And Waga, you're sticking around for the cast, man.
Yeah, I'd love to join you. It'll be fun. I haven't gone to cast with you, and I've never cast an AWE game in my life, but, you know, I can...
I do enjoy watching these players who have more than one strategy, you know? You never know what they're gonna do, meanwhile.
If they make infantry, I can comment on it.
But by the way, just because, you know, Waga's kind of pushing out of this cast thing, he could only cast infantry.
We think you're going to join us and we'll do a little triple cast for this next set.
What's next set again?
Hrucknoff.
Oh yeah, fuck it, let's go.
Let's go!
Double Dota cast, double Dota.
And I thought a couple games of Dota myself, so triple Dota cast for this next one.
I actually want to say, at what rank I played, I was in dog shit ele, I played three games,
lost them all and I said league is better.
Oh Jesus.
Jesus Christ.
No, no, it's interesting, me and Dota is like, you'd actually go blind.
I'm horrible like I you know what I couldn't understand it though that I had a freaking donkey brother
Why do I have a donkey they call him a courier? I gotta send this guy to pick up I'll pick up items
I come from League of Legends. I can just do it myself. What's with the dog?
But it's that bad, huh? It's that bad, but no we had it's worse
We I played on the past where we had one donkey for the whole team
I'm trying to get the dog to go give me my shit and
and i keep it on the donkey
yeah did you play mid or not?
i don't know what i played honestly
i have no idea
if you were in mid you had no donkey basically
so there was no donkey
no no i had a donkey
i had a donkey but he was just never there for me
exactly
alright it's been a while
it's more like my boar in that game
i don't know where it went, my pig
you want to do an evening by the Vietnamese
It was good meal
How long for you?
Hey a truck doesn't know he's playing by the way. We can't get a hold of a truck. Yeah
I guess
He might still be sleeping he's not even online on this word. I
Stound him with some 14s. Also a truck is the one guy that doesn't answer to my admin
Guy thinks it's tough shit, bro. I have to message him myself
myself. Yeah, we'll just see how this goes. But so far, we haven't really heard from him.
By the 200 gifted from King in the North, we have 10 gifted from Migs. King in the North,
thank you so much for that big subbomb. Completely missed it. We're talking with Sing and Wagga,
but thank you Migs for the 10 gifted as well. Cause chaos, 6 out of 5 gifted. I appreciate
you guys supporting the channel, supporting the stream, and supporting the tournaments.
We're gonna have to fill some time here. Why don't we go with another best of 5,
rematch double or nothing wag ever sing let's do it reset the bracket you guys are crazy
nae you do that shit too i've seen these best of 15 show matches and said hey i don't know
how you have the patience for or like endurance for that you know that the biggest of them
don't know the biggest show match was best of 21 by the way uh in age one 21 best of 21 yeah
a fucking game. That's a 21. Like, don't you just run out of sips? No, bro, there's
53 sins. Yeah, but that's 53 sins. Well, you play you play 21 each and if it goes to
the last game, that's crazy. Somebody is bound to be on the map when they don't know
a sip for it. Like, there's no fucking way. No, no, no, we know you have good progression
on every map. Pro-AV2 is really hard, by the way. It's really hard.
It's like chess, you gotta study openings. You gotta study like a million saves, prep
everything. Yeah, something like that, to be fair. By the
way, we're not seeing anything from Atroc. We'll give it like five minutes. If not, I
think we have to move to the upper bracket set earlier, if possible.
I really don't want to give, play them 2v1, you guys want a 2v1 me, but I can barely 1v1
Waga mama, like Singsing just has to do anything, and I lose, that's what I'm doing, we should
have that much money right?
Yeah, we can do it bro, Singsing, will you continue streaming 81 parts, and then Waga
is in the tournament, oh you're going to stream some team games, okay.
Yeah, I have no interest in 1v1s, but I think team games are really fun.
Alright, cool, cool, cool.
Yeah, we can do a 2v1.
The chat's pressuring us to do it right now.
We could do it right now, but it's very unprofessional
to just put in a random 2v1 mid-turn of it.
It can always blame Aethel or Praveenlite.
Yeah, we could.
Are you guys down?
Is it on the table?
We'll give him a couple minutes,
but are you guys down in theory?
I think you let your tongue in the game soon, brother.
You're letting your fucking tongue in.
What do you mean, are you down on this guy?
I don't know what to do, bro.
I'm running a tournament.
A truck's not here.
Surely someone else is ready.
You know, you've got to put your hands to theirs.
I'm asking the admin.
I'm trying to get an upper bracket match going.
Yeah, one of my mods is saying,
what if it was sponsored?
I don't think it would help the situation.
Okay, Lance and you thermal might be down.
Lance and you thermal might be down.
Nice.
Oh, that's a matchup.
That's a pretty good idea.
Yeah, I was scared for both of them.
Yeah, that's actually a crazy matchup.
Both of them are still strong.
Lance, get out of my chat and get ready.
You're up next, Lance.
The last is just in there, tapping in his underwear.
I feel like you Thermal has been powering up a lot by the way, like from the ladder.
Ladder race, he didn't play that much, but like he's really sharpened up a lot in the
recent time.
But on the other hand, Captain Lance, he's a freak dude, like, I thought that he was
at his peak in the more, but he was treadmilling the entire time.
You can't tell me that was his peak in the more.
That's weird too, right?
He plays like a thousand different things.
Yeah, he's playing random Siv, random map.
He's playing on a treadmill.
Like, this guy was super nerfed in the ladder race.
He could be like a secret 2K and nobody knows.
Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me.
Yeah, Knopf is disappointed he's ready.
And Knopf says, guys, come on.
Get Hjok here.
Dude, somebody call Big A.
That's true.
Knoff is about to call for a death win soon.
I see him.
He's furious.
I wonder what.
Piss off Knoff either.
By the way, technically the rule should be if Hrock doesn't
show in 15 minutes, he's a forfeit, by the way.
CaptainLot agrees.
OK, guys, we're going to give Hrock 15 minutes from now
at 2 PM my time in 15 minutes.
It's a forfeit Hrock.
All right, 15 minutes from now.
If not, GG Knoth wins.
That's the rule.
What?
Send me a link.
He's got 15 minutes.
That's it.
Link?
Are we linking?
Yeah, yeah, for the match.
Oh, it's not hosted, I think.
No, we're not doing it to be won.
We're not doing it to be won.
It's 15 minutes, you're a professional.
And yeah, Knoth will get the admin win
if HROC does not show in 15 minutes.
We have to fill time.
I don't know what we do, but we just talk.
So, Sing, was it the same for you, by the way?
In this match that we have now, they felt like less nervous for some reason going up.
Because I felt no nerves knowing that I'm playing you.
It's like no matter who wins, I'll be okay with it.
Yeah, but I was nervous as fuck in the first two matches.
Like actually, I was really, for no reason too, I'm like scared.
Yeah, I was facing like a nine or more player and I didn't, I felt like I might lose it.
I was like what's going on?
But I faced you and I was like oh let's get a kill.
If I die I die.
I was shaking against spitting brick dude.
I was actually like my hands were sweaty you know.
Oh jeez.
I mean he could have randomly cheered you right?
Or the stupid possible shit.
Yeah.
By the way.
I think there's only two players left.
That's that.
It's Gubby and Kettle Lance.
True.
By the way the first game we played I thought you were going to go Magyar on the Fortress.
I wanted to go Britain's to counter your Magia composition, but you ended up going for Mongol, which is similar anyway.
Like you wanted to go Sartir.
I thought you were going Celts to ram push my ass, so I went and asked to kill your rams for fucking Manga Dai.
I would have won that anyway if I went skirmish and Manga Dai and rams.
I thought Cetanrgers would beat Longbowmen, but they died before they could shoot, it's fucked up.
Even if Skirm's lost, I think you needed those rams in front of the Longbowmen, then you would win.
Skirm's plus rams, and then I have to manually target every single auto-attack, or I do zero DPS.
So yeah, there you would beat me.
That game was just like...
My game was weird, dudes.
My game bugged out all my skin blackouts in that game. It was really weird.
Not sure what happened.
Yeah, sure, sure.
I really am impressed how cost-effective the longbowman can be because I thought I would
struggle you had the relics and you have the outer golds basically but those longbowmen
sitting behind some spears you can actually trade really nicely.
Yeah, they're really strong.
I find the mongrel now range of months it bugs others on me if you have too many I didn't have no idea
oh oh you made too many minus by the way in that game in that game a seed drum I heard you guys
talking seed drum would have been great I think a better option than the seed
onager but I will say Wagga your micro is a seed onager was very good like if you
messed up once or twice things seem got a few decent shots but once or twice and you messed
up and you take a huge hit and you lose the game so I took a few blasts though I
lost like 20 in one volley at one point it was so sad those things are so
expensive like even if you lose 10 guys it's worth it for you almost for a
kill my longbowman can shoot you from like five tiles before you're in range
of me though it's insane like that she just made them three tiles three tiles
to be fair but yeah it's usually not too to make it happen yeah it did
sometimes feel like five guys a couple things I want to address here
swapping, syncing for Hrock would be incredibly unfair to Knopf, that's not
gonna happen, sorry to syncing of course, but that would be like super super
corrupt and also someone's asking if I have Ludwig's contact to get a hold of
Hrock, I have Ludwig's contact but he never answers my messages so I can't
I can't really do that so unfortunately just Hrock, maybe if it's viewers have
his contact somehow sure but otherwise we're just waiting. You can just send in your boyfriend Grubby instead.
Yeah, Grubby gets a second life, put Grubby in, Grubby plays it, he gets two likes!
Grubby in upper and lower bracket!
Grand finals Grubby insane, he'll have to fucking split.
Oh that's fantastic.
Yeah we just have to wait, it's ten minutes guys, ten minutes to the round.
Grubby says sure, Grubby's always down to throw down, he just plays, no worries.
He's been bit on this game. He's been pretty hooked.
I am playing it non-stop before and after our show match we did the 1v7.
It was 1900 almost. Two games of 1900. It was crazy.
I think he'll make a run for 2k at some point.
Got this on a checklist. He played Dota, he got the Immortal Bracket, he plays some other game, gets to a very good level and now we're grinding the AoE ladder.
Yeah.
He just won everything.
The dough that played was only immortal though, right?
It's like the barely human black it's still.
It was pretty high for how fast he got there.
Yeah.
It used to mean a lot.
Now it's, I mean, it's good, but it's top 13 percent.
It's not like top 1 percent or anything.
Oh, that's terrible.
Immortal sounds like it's insane.
That's like freaking, that's like, that's like quiet in the league, bro.
That's terrible.
I mean, if we think about it, if we think about it,
13% what is up 13% in the aoe yeah, yeah, maybe around like 1800 maybe maybe like 1700 I guess
Yeah, it's not bad. It's not bad
It's decent. I'm not that far away from it
Yeah, you've gotten there really fast, but to be fair your progress was really fast
What I'm seeing from age vampires by the way is that I think we have a really really really competitive pro pro scene
But I think the mid elo is a bit hard
Like, Midyula has a bunch of people that are like kind of casual and a bunch of people that are just hard stuck for ten years in there.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I played against a lot of people who had like 16,000 games and stuff.
Like, on one Siv, I played against the Tutun and had 16,000 games.
No wonder he knows what he's doing.
Apparently, Ludwig is calling Hrock.
Ludwig's shooting right now?
Let's see what's going on.
I guess he doesn't know the times.
times. What is this? I don't know. I actually don't know where Atrock is. You have 10 minutes.
10 minutes to go. So much favoritism to Atrock. No, it's not favoritism at all. This is very
standard. The rule is, if you don't show, you get 15 minutes. We gave him like 5 minutes extra.
But this is actually not favoritism. This is actually standard. By the way, guys, rushing
to give an admin loss would be bad for our schedule anyway. So we're trying to do our best.
I truck didn't pick up. Let's see. He's got 10 minutes. We'll give him the time if not,
it's time at 2pm. It's time at 2pm. I'm going to give him the admin loss. If it's not favoritism,
we're trying to best keep this as professional as possible despite, yeah, only Grubby gets
favoritism. How dare you accuse me of favoritism to Ashrock. This is, this is disastrous.
Yo, here I have a question for you. Yeah. So in one of our games we played the music here.
I used the patrol trick to stack the mana more very good. Yes
Do you feel do you feel like the patrol trick should be in the game or not?
Is it good for the game or is it not? Of course not. That's terrible for the game very unhealthy mechanic
There is some counter play to it. It's not that like
Broken but it is very like it is overpowered and it is very unintuitive
But the devs don't know how to fix it. They don't know how to fix it. That's the problem
hmm
Dash says I do a mean atrial cosplay if you want me to load up and lose to Knopf real fast
If that's you put on a truck mask. No one can tell the difference dash is about to hop in here
What a fantastic proposition
It'd be great to have a substitute
The thing is I would love to have a substitute, but if the substitute wins Knopf is just gonna
Knopf would just like it'd be so unfair right like that's it's not possible
Aatrox Gropin did an answer, damn, oh my goodness.
You're exhausting every chance.
He has seven minutes, guys.
He's got seven minutes.
Given the last bit of time here, but yeah.
Does he just lose?
He loses, yeah.
He was late yesterday too.
Yeah.
Fuck.
The thing is, it is early for him right now.
It's like, I think something like his 10pm now or 11pm.
I think 11pm.
What?
11am.
How is that early?
It's kind of early, bro
Bro, what do you mean? We played three we played 3 p.m. And then to a.m. Starting a BO3 like
11 hour gap
He can't complain hour gap for my 3 p.m. And 4 a.m. What the fuck is that?
Scheduling skills
They wouldn't do me this dirty
Well honestly, it's your fault for being the losers brackets to be honest like the losers back
Okay, now I am a captain.
Yeah, I think you should have taken the captain role, but maybe on the next tournament I can make that rule.
I can switch in that rule.
That would be hilarious.
Let me ask you this, guys.
Let me ask you this.
I don't want to lock you in for like a three-year contract, but hypothetically, if I do host another one of these events next year, would you guys be down and playing?
Yeah, I'm down.
For sure.
Yeah.
I'd love to hear that, bro.
That's good.
I mean, it's been a lot of fun actually even the ladder race and like the entire thing leading up to it. It's been a blast
Yeah, yeah people have been talking about stock of two journey
I honestly would have by this pig or day nine when I host some starcraft maybe loco host some starcraft journey
That would be absolutely epic and I think a lot of us would also play that I surely would play it
And yeah, good to hear that you guys would be down for for a run back next year
Give me something to play with I'd obviously switch up the format a little bit will have some ideas
But yeah should be a lot of fun five more minutes by the way for a truck and if he doesn't show it
It's a forfeit and Knopf will move on
That's five minutes
He's probably leaving so good. I'm doing my best impression here now. I'm the one eating on her a stream feels fucking good man
I deserve this
Well, that's really disrespectful to me on my stream
I had a healthy brownie for the morning brownie with some chocolate on it
just wanted to eat a light little breakfast but still haven't had any real
food kind of powering through here yeah only a strict meal no it's my first meal
It's my first meal and it was it was basically a salad like this a nice light browning
Hmm
Yes, the thing is things saying like you guys say I'm eating a lot
But the thing is I have one meal for the day literally one meal. I'm holding it. I think one bite
No, bro. Let's hear me out. Hear me out. I have one bite and the chat's like all hairs eating
Okay 30 minutes pass. I go take another bite. Wow eating again. It's like, no, it's the same meal
It's just sitting there. I'm just counseling for you guys that's I can take a ten minute break each
But then all my viewers go down I get really sad so now I'm fat and sad
Let me to be fat and happy at least you know
I do digesting the same speed as you're eating
You have a different definition of food of meals
It's gotta be like snack and meal that you just interchanging them for whatever
I got another question for you though here as I got the chance here and we have time
Like, what has surprised you the most about the players in general, like, what people do or do good or do poorly?
Like, is there builds or stuff that you are so surprised you don't see? Like, what's surprising about this tournament to you?
Yeah, very good question. And I would say that I'm surprised at how disciplined everyone in the tournament is at, like, executing the same strategy over and over again.
And Aatrox missing, this is not very disciplined of course, but like for example local, he went for like the same build, he actually did it really well, he always went for the same approach, but he did it very well.
So like the discipline from the players is really good. What surprised me is just not doing the basic shit like clicking loom.
I would have never imagined like just where people are like tower rushing with no loom, 50 minutes no loom, like I can't believe how many basic shit is just missing from like the gameplay.
gameplay, but you guys are doing some really, really tough, like mechanics and tough, like
tough micro moves while forgetting the basics.
So I think I'm surprised at how good some people are at the hard stuff and how bad some
people are on the basics, basically.
I think the loom thing is more than about a lot of people forgetting.
You're just greedy.
You know?
I'm just greedy.
I think a lot of people are just greedy.
No, no, no.
It's not for the...
No, no.
It's not a greed, but it's 50 gold, not that much.
have people tower rushing minute 50 tower rushing and they don't have freaking
loom like that it can't be the 50 gold can we vote on admin winner postponed
game the thing is it has to be admin win like Knopf is asking for the admin
win it's within his right to do so the rules has admin win so it has to be
admin win yeah otherwise it's been way around forever as well you know yeah
It makes sense.
It's two minutes, by the way, if people in the chat are saying that Aatrox said that
he's going to play next on Sunday, I don't know how he could have missed that he's playing
today, like he's in the losers bracket, why would he play on Sunday, like it doesn't
even make any sense.
Ren Ragh, thank you for the five gift, I appreciate that.
Thank you so much, it's one minute, guys.
One minute, get the 0-7s ready.
We'll get A-Truck on the cast later, maybe.
He's coming or not.
We haven't heard.
They haven't heard.
It's likely to be a forefoot here, unfortunately.
Trust me, I really don't want to do this, and I hate that we have to do it.
But at the end of the day, I'd rather be fair to the person that did show up, I
guess.
Listen, we've played a lot of pro games in Dota, and you've got to enforce
the rules.
there's no point to having them.
Yeah, yeah.
I've seen this situation a lot of times
where teams are late and people get mad at the admin
for enforcing the rules, but they're there for a reason.
Yeah, I am.
Especially in this case, I've been extra lenient,
like I gave him an extra like five minutes
on top of the 15, you know, at the end of the day.
Kill him, dude.
Kill him already.
Yeah, it's over, it's 2PM.
All right, 0-7s guys,
Hrock has forfeited the match by no show
and Knoth moves on.
What a performance from Knoth, holy moly, he moves on.
That's crazy, dude, he's a really good player,
he just won in zero seconds, that's fantastic.
Knoth wins a truck with an admin loss.
GG, GG Knoth moves on.
All right.
Sick, the rush strats are getting better and better.
Yeah, that's a really fast rush.
Guys, thank you for the cast by the way.
I loved your insight on this one.
Um.
No, we're done.
Alright, let me see what we're doing next here. I think the admin has to get us some information.
I think WAGA is not up next. I think we're going to move on to the upper bracket semi-finals.
So probably Captain Lance vs you, Thermal next, is what's going to happen.
I don't even know if you guys are casting that, if you have another casted by the way.
I'm going to let my admin take care of the situation, but yeah, we'll see what happens.
Alright, they can cast it, okay nice, we're good for the cast, we're going to get started
with the next set right away, you thermal versus captain Lance, Waga and Sing Sing, I
need you guys to just fill a few minutes of commentary as I take a little break here
and then we're going to get started with the next set, so you thermal and captain
Lance will get started as well in a second, let me just quickly tell them to wait.
Did you see, in the game by the way, seeing where we played, I think it was the first game.
At one point, one of my treps was shooting and moving.
Like I had a moving trep.
I actually bug abused against you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Are you cheating too?
What is this?
I did, I did.
I'll show you, I'll show you.
Here, put it in the clip chat.
Wait, wait, what did you just do?
I put it in the Harris chapter where I get banned.
I'll put it there too.
Here you go.
I can't show it on stream because I'm not here, but you can click it.
It's in the chat.
That one Trebson is hacking it.
I didn't know that I had the moving Trebson Britons.
That's OP.
They're wheels.
We got to redo the match.
Oh, that match was fucked up actually. I think I would have won if my king didn't die at the end.
I didn't realize he got knocked out of the town center.
Oh, I just had to clean up that army of longbows in the middle.
I saw him get knocked out, immediately target him with all the longbowmen.
I'm like, good luck against Ballistics dude, good luck.
Yeah, it's hooked up.
You got like, 60 arrows in his ass.
For anyone who doesn't know in chat, by the way, Singsing is known as the Bug Magnets.
Any game you play, he finds the bugs.
The whole, the moving treb.
If you ever want to clean up a game, just invite Singsing.
It'd be great to find all these things for you.
Fuck was so fucked up dudes. My whole base was blacked out. Like what the fuck?
Oh yeah, that too.
I've seen that bug before. Like the whole time we played this with leather and everything.
That moving trap thing? I've never seen it. No, no, no, no. The base just blacking out.
Oh, oh yeah. I guess did you ever have that many mangles? I don't know.
I was scared at first and then I realized how much the out range is useless.
I mean it was theory crafted against your mag yard that you were going to go for the
horse archers and the hussar and that maybe you bring mangoes and then I looked up the
range and I'm like, huh, should be fine, the spam archer.
As long as I get a sieve where I can just make one unit and be fine, I think I'm a good player.
I think that MangaDai would have still won actually, if I just all in this and then figure out any other unit.
If I never was a siege all in this, and I just went all in MangaDai, I think that still beats the Longbowman.
A lot, a lot of MangaDai, yeah, maybe.
Maybe. The Longbowmen are really cost effective against them though, but yeah, if you mass produce, you could probably take one.
I saw you with Larry, I saw that f**king GC practice.
Oh, lurking in your channel.
The horse archer vs crossbow, uh, screaming.
Yeah, I've never played that matchup before, man, I don't know what to do, f**k.
Have you ever made a ram in the AoE 2? You made them all the time in the AoE 4 dude.
Yeah I make them sometimes.
Yeah I never played that matchup and never played the Armenians before.
Although I knew it was coming there.
I thought the scouts were enough against the Armenian longswords.
Oh yeah.
No not the Armenian longswords, the Romans.
It was the Romans.
The Romans are tough. They're very armored. Very platey boys.
Even the spearman I can possibly kill with the plus two armor. It's insane.
I just had to go archers in that game, it was chill.
That's so much time to go archers.
Yeah, Archers would have been better for sure.
They're very tanky.
I like these dragged out feudal age forever games.
Never go Castle Age.
Just stay fucking feudal.
Yeah, yeah, that much more fun than the best castle wash games
Yeah, cuz those are cheesy. It's like you're playing and then suddenly oh opponent shows up with two big army and you lost at least here
It's like you're brawling the entire time. It's it feels like
Blading in Dota, you know, it's like bathroom for it
Otherwise you skip laning stage. You just hop into a big team fire. It's like, oh opponent has big me
That's what the fossil wash is so lame because it's kept like everything
It does play five minutes. You literally just play five minutes and that's all
Yeah, I'm back and back and back but you saw eating right now
No, no, I'm not eating. I swear. There's no calories consumed in the last five minutes on my on my household
It's all good. I think we're starting or no, that's the last game
I should be starting soon. Let me just set up the cameras. Of course
We need to get the next guys in here. Knoff is going to be hung up on.
You throw them over to Captain Lan's going to get set up. So very, very nice.
Let's start putting those guys in.
All right. There we go.
There we go.
And they can start.
All right.
Alright, we're just waiting for the first match to get started now.
WagonMog was saying thank you so much for kind of filling in the time, and I don't know
what you guys talked about, but I hope you guys are excited for this next match.
We're going to show the bracket one more time here for the people at home, to explain
what happened.
Hrock had an admin loss against Knopf, a forfeit due to a no-show, so Knopf moved
on down to Swedes in the lower bracket, are kind of going crazy here.
We're now in the top six by the way.
So, Singsing and Atroc get top 8, top 6 remaining here.
Captain Lance, your thermal grubby pig.
I'm gonna fight to figure out the last four players,
the top four for the final day tomorrow.
What do you guys make of this matchup here?
So, we're gonna have, your thermal versus Captain Lance.
Captain Lance ended up being the first place captain.
Your thermal is the fourth place captain.
However, I feel like a lot of us think
that your thermal is the favorite for this matchup.
What do you guys make of it?
Captain Face-Off here.
I actually think it's like dead even.
I don't know if I favor one of them.
I think anyone can take it because like you thermal is sharpening up in his mechanics are
like really clean now I think and like he's looking very impressive.
He I screamed some game against him.
He actually just ran me over.
It was so easy for him.
So that's a bit disheartening for me.
But captain has on the other hand, I mean, he saw what happened in my game against
him.
I don't know. He is also very keen.
Absolutely.
It's like a walk of tricks, right? Like, there's so many random threats.
It's like random fossil strats, random sieves, this and that, humans coming around nowhere suddenly.
It's scary.
And I think Yuturamori, he pretty much is like only one place though, and that's just like scout rush into archers.
Yeah, he seems to be loving that style actually. It's a very, very interesting one.
Yeah, this is so powerful.
But yeah guys, welcome in to the viewers here. I think we got thousands and thousands of people here waiting for this Captain V Captain face-off.
He's thermal playing as the Italians against Captain Lance playing as the Cumans.
Captain Lance with the Cumans, he's shown this strategy twice. He's won both times.
Singsing has copied it and also won with the Cumans. And that's the fourth time we're seeing it from Captain Lance again.
Singsing, someone's copied the strategy. Why do you copy it and what do you think of the strategy?
Did it seem powerful enough for you to just copy and try it yourself?
Alright, good talk, Sing Sing. Thank you for the excellent feedback. Very, very nice.
Did you hear that?
Oh, I'm sorry, I was muted.
Oh, no worries.
Yeah, I'm trying to get into the game.
You can watch on my screen if you want. I'm sharing the screen.
Yeah, you can watch on Discord, shared.
Oh!
we'll get here a few weeks but i can't stream this
and then okay no problem uh oh hf just responded he just woke up oh my god oh my god hf just woke up
oh my god oh my god
uh worst case really that's the worst case
dude is it unprofessional if i ask noff to play if i just offer a more price
I don't even know what to do like it's it if this is a pro term. It's too late
But like I don't know what to do. I'll see my my advocate cook up
But I think it might just be too late
Look at the lobby code, by the way, I'm gonna send it to you on the DMs
I should meet you while you're thinking on it
You fuck yeah, you should send it to wagapoa
Yeah
Yeah, we'll see it. We'll see it. We'll see what happens with that one
But it's likely to be not possible to get a truck in here
But anyways for now we'll focus on this upper-backing match you thermal versus Captain Lance
Talk about the Cumans a sing sing ignored me. He was muted and he was just trying to figure out how to get in
but let's talk about the Cuman strategy. It's a
Kipchuk
fast Imperial age after a two-town center boom in feudal age and
You thermal here with the Italians could be in the prime time to counter this
So let's talk about why the Italians make sense here, then we'll pass it on to Waga-Mama
here to give us his expert insights.
Italians have a unit called the Genoese Crossbow.
It's an archer-based unit that has an attack bonus versus anything on a horse.
They also get cheaper age up, so cheaper feudal age, cheaper castage, cheaper imperial
age, which gives them a very smooth time transitioning through the ages.
So I feel like the Italians here are a great civilization to counter the Cumans.
Mr. Waga, what do you make of the Italians pick something we haven't seen
today?
From what I looked at and what I learned, I have looked at some of the different saves.
Italians for me struck me as like, oh, they're pretty capable of doing a lot of things, right?
Like they're pretty versatile.
They have a lot of options.
And overall that seems kind of nice.
I'm not sure how great their unique unit is on this map.
I feel like mobility from the mounted units is really strong.
We're having like a super strong death stack.
I don't know how powerful the unique units of the Italians can be on this map.
It's quite powerful. If they're hitting a CAV unit, it's very strong, I would say.
Yeah, overall I think they seem like more normal to me whereas humans I think they're the big question mark
because they get stuck in this weird part where, okay, you're feudal age, you have your double TC
and you start booming, but now you're in a completely unique path to castle age and imperial age
every other sip in the game. This is so unknown territory to me and I think at some point you've
got to make the choice, right? When you leave this feudal age, start working towards that castle age.
Yeah, so the 2TC boom for those who might not know here, it's unique to the Cumans. It's the
only civilization that can make a town center in the feudal age and so this is going to allow
Captain Lance to increase his village account nice and early. The thermal, of course,
has to wait till a castle age. Like every other sip in the game, but he's doing so beautifully
with a nice fast cast. So look at that. Good timing on the click here.
24 pop or 24 villagers that day. 26 pop for your Thermal.
Capmance going to be increasing in the villager count. But of course,
once you Thermal gets the cast sledge, he can not only make a 2-town center boom
happen. He can make a 3-town center, especially even a 4-town center boom
happen himself. So you usually are able to catch up in villagers and res collected
compared to the Cumans. But Capmance is 2-0 with the strategy.
We had syncing earlier that employed it and won. It's very powerful and I think that the
the Cumans will try it again here in Captain Lance's hands. I will see how this plays out,
but I think QTC boom into the fast, forward cast with Kipchuk has been his go-to strategy.
That's a nice unit to control the field as well. The Kipchuk seems like...
How does it work? It has extra shots, right? When it shoots?
Yeah, so it's like the Chukunu. Oh, actually, it's not really like the... Wait, hold
on. Is it like the Chukunu? Yeah, it is like the Chukunu. It shoots extra shots
and it sounds like a horse, so it has that extra mobility factor, but yeah, it just shoots extra shots from the, from the horse.
Hmm.
Yeah, because I was looking at it, and I got curious, curious about how it works if you, like, do they have bonus damage against the unit type and do those extra shots have that too?
Oh, they only have plus one against your men. Never mind, it's not so unique.
No, but it's a good question. So those extra shots only deal one damage, by the way, just so you know, in general.
So like the main shot from the from the Kipchak does full damage and the extra shots only do one damage
So it's not like you're getting insane, you know DPS from the back line from the Kipchaks. It is pretty good
But it's not anything absurd out of this world
It mainly helps you against high pure summer targets
So for example a Huskroll the goth unique unit has really high pure summer most archery unit deal one damage no matter
How much attack they have whereas the Kipchak even if it's dealing one damage to the main projectile because it shoots two more
you deal three damage per volley against the Huskrow.
So it's really good against high-pierce armor targets, not to be the case in this game though
because the Italians don't really have any high-pierce armor targets.
We see the Italians just set up the 3TC boom here.
So while the humans will pull ahead and rest collected and the villager counts,
you thermal is looking to close that gap with the 3TC boom.
He's building up a strong economy behind this and you know,
this is where sure you had your villager advantage early on,
But your thermal is trying to close in and get his own eco going as well as well as being able to get those eco upgrades now getting the
wood gathering upgrade
Yeah, a little bose audition. That's a good point actually Wagga
Look at you, bro in the top six and actually pointing out some good shit here
What upgrade is a huge advantage to the guy in castle edge?
So not only is the guy in feudal edge only having the two town center
He also is stuck on feudal edge economy upgrades which are decent
but of course bose odd does give a nice little boost to you thermal and
And it tends to be a little bit of a boom map, but let me get your take on this, Mr. Waga.
How do you enjoy Redis and Fortress, and how do you enjoy the element of having that king?
For me personally, I think it's been fantastic, but I want to know how you feel as a player in this tournament.
Okay, at first, I was so scared realizing that, hold up, this is a map I had never played.
It wasn't even in the map pool, but I actually liked this map a lot more than I ended up liking Arena,
even though I played Arena, you know, several times.
Because I find the gameplay on this map is so accelerated.
In a pretty good way, it doesn't feel wrong,
but you have this ease of playing into your unique units.
So every sieve feels very different on this map.
And you can really lean into the sieve's strengths.
So, and I thought it would be hard to play aggro on this map too,
but that's been proven to not be the case.
Yeah, like we've seen some really aggro strategies.
You can't play aggro in the same sense that you can play aggro on a raid,
but like no minute arm rush works,
You can't just like send units against the wall and hope that you can break in
You have to like calculate aggression
But even if you just make a little bit of your unique unit you pressure behind woodlands that can be pretty solid
But it comes down to usually a lot of economy
But like you said Waga in an accelerated fashion my favorite part about this map actually is the fact that after the boom
It's an open map. I like that a lot more than arena sometimes where it's like you're fighting in one area all the time
Whereas in this map there's a lot of like running around controlling woodlines all that good stuff. I
I'd be pretty scared if I was captain last right now because he's sitting there booming,
you know, the feudal booming, he's picked up the castle now.
And sure, Villager count is great, but he doesn't have much scouting information.
He started to wall off a bit, but look at your thermal already going behind the woodline
scouting with this ranged unit.
You know, nice, nice to get behind there.
And this is something I talked to you thermal about how arena and this map, you really
need to get some information what your opponent is doing.
You need to see something.
So he saw the TC, he noticed it to TC boomer, it was very predictable, but yeah, it's good to confirm that for sure
By the way, Catalan is doing something very unorthodox. He's making two ranges and he's going to go for some skirm production
This is literally not like this is not the meta at all
This is not anything he's done before and this is a direct response to seeing the Genoese crossbow
Which I think is a great a crazy adaptation. He wants to force that castle forward
I believe and he's making skirmishes to fight for the map control before sending the Vils forward
That's my read of the situation so far, but definitely he is committed to some skirmishers now.
Four skirmishers made and walking across the map, looking for this Genovese crossbow.
Interesting play from Lance.
Yeah, I guess he's feeling like this is a nicer play than leaning on his unique unit in this specific matchup.
Yeah.
He's gonna get out there and get that valuable scouting information, even if he doesn't necessarily kill anything, just seeing what's out there.
Make sure you don't have a Siege workshop right outside your base at this point, feels pretty good to know.
And he's actually not gonna go for the fast imp. He's gonna go for that 4 TC boom
I talked about this a while back the village count is evened out, but now Lance is gonna turbo into the 4 TC
This is the second option that the Cummins can do so he's really mixing it up for this upper bracket game here
Love that he shows the fast imp twice before you thermalist probably expecting the fast imp
He might be even preparing for the fast imp by trying to go for a fast himself
Trying to get some army on the field and not let the forward castle come through but Lance is just walling up the entire map
Take a look at this monster house wall, and he's got a massive 4th DC boom
This is a crazy out of vision from Lance in this first game of the best of five. I
Like that house wall right there. He's cutting off a big chunk of the map
And it will be maybe hard to hold on to all of it if a push does come
But it gives him a very early warning system if there is aggression coming in on that flank
Yeah, and he's setting up good area. They can now use for farming, right?
That's one of the hard things about this map when you start booming with 4 TC that takes a lot of farms and that needs space
So he's giving himself that yeah
I secure a lot of space and it has a lot of benefits actually so number one
You can get the space that we talked about number two you can get those relics to secure them in your base
You can pick them up later and number three you make so many houses that you don't get house
Which is actually if you ever played a drumfires. That's a pretty good thing to have for yourself. I
Think I've had a series where I didn't get house this is single point
So yeah, it's probably a nice play. I should take some notes here
By the way, I think we missed it, but I think Captain Lance lost his scout to the boar
Because he's got a one extra death that didn't come from his opponent's kill
So I'm 90% certain that Captain Lance has lost his scout to the boar
Which is pretty significant because that means that he doesn't have a scout in this early game
And he's kind of getting bullied by you thermal scout now and might lose a villager unless you can get some quick walls
Oh, that's why you want two villagers together, right?
Yeah.
This Warvill.
I'm not going to be able to do anything.
Good catch from you, Thermalon.
And with Loom.
Yeah, even with Loom.
See Loom is useless.
This is why you should skip Loom.
He paid the 50 gold and lost to the villager anyways.
Vago, it's a propaganda.
Can I have one more, Will?
Yeah.
That's fantastic.
Yeah.
Loom has its downsides for sure, but the Housewall is getting punished on both sides
here.
The top has been completely stopped and the bottom is actually getting harassed.
But we have a fifth talents enough in Captain Lance. He's going for a massive massive boom his opponent. He thermals up to Imperial
Age
I feel like the fact he's even was interesting
But if you're a point here just three TC boom into M and just go straight down the center of the nice in push
I feel like that's a pretty solid setup for the Italians
Yeah, this looks fantastic for you thermal right the extra TC being added now means that captain Lance sure he's ahead by
2500 resources collected so that's great
But he's gonna need to sink even more resources into more farms getting the eco for all these TC productions every TC right is
Consuming quite a bit of food per minute if you think about it like that
So that's resources you cannot put towards your military immediately and now you thermal
This imp timing is gonna be very dangerous. Yeah, but you just have to put us put on the gas
So I like what you mentioned there. It's like Captain Lance. He's investing so much in the economy
But it's in a delay his military
Uh, all of this, like, matters, but if Uthermal just sits back and waits, then Catmulans doesn't really have that hard press or any military out on the field now,
and that 5TC boom will for sure pay off for him.
He's getting some production outside of his base, which is actually very menacing,
because now Uthermal will see this, he'll see the stable come up, and be like,
oh shit, my opponent is ready to gear up and attack me, I better defend.
But, Catmulans is actually just full-booming, he's not even ready to attack, he's just pretending like he is,
So there's a mind game there and I actually hate that you thermal is going for our bless
Oh, I spent a thousand years talking about the Genoese crossbow, which would be 100% the better unit now
But you thermal doesn't know he thinks the R bless is better. It's really strange. Wow
Yeah, since they welcome back our bless, you don't like it, right? I
Mean the crossbow will be against hip checks, right? Maybe because it predicts no keep just to be on the map
But like even if there's no kipchaks it is gonna be what?
Paladin, Hissar, humans are a cavalry based sieve
so no matter what humans go for they're gonna always have some kind of cavalry
in which case the genoese crossbow will get a lot of value.
You think about just deciding for generic arbalest?
It's a decent choice but I feel like he's giving up something better for something okay.
Which feels weird.
But now he's doing what you said though.
Put on the gas even.
So he bought wood using gold which is a limited resource on the map
but he still wants to go faster so he wants to get production going.
This castle that he wants to put forward though. It's gonna be denied for now
Yeah, and he's get some army that I'm not gonna do it
Like I could kill that easily the castle kind of denied or let's say pushed back from Captain Lancer
Come on, so the good job of getting out in the math with army not giving his opponent a free game
We'll play from him. He's trying to repair
Not gonna be enough. I guess when all the scouts come in no way near
I stopped preparing this place be he's really working on it. Yeah, but I think yeah, I'd go yeah
He needs R-Blessed. He's got only two ranges, by the way.
He's got only two ranges.
He's trying to force a forward castle, but I think he's got almost kind of choking this one.
The third one has not shown the best fortified...
fortified Red side fortress civilization.
Sorry, he hasn't shown the best Red side fortress gameplay so far.
It's been his weakest map in comparison to what he's known for on something like Arabia.
He needs more ranges for sure, and a very late wheelbarrow.
I don't know, I feel like Cap Lanz is actually all over him right now.
Yeah, it's strange because Captain Lance, we talked about how he was going pretty greedy
and it will take a bit of time before he goes, but the Thermal is still only with two military
units there and sending the Manganel forward.
He just needed those basic units.
You talk about needing the men and the siege sometimes, you have too little of either.
Here you have too little of both.
Ballistics coming in.
Captain Lance is gearing up to the map here.
I think Seedram's a good tool. I think Seedrams have been getting a lot of value this term in general.
I would like to see more of that. I think actually Synxing could have used some Seedram in your game with the Mongols.
Did you consider it Synxing?
Yeah.
I didn't know the matchup at all.
I considered it at the end, but then I didn't have the resources anymore to upgrade stuff.
Yeah, yeah. That's the problem. Sometimes you gotta know beforehand...
Dude, he really wants this middle of the map castle. Like, you throw him out of this.
Dude, he'd give up everything for this middle of the map castle.
From scrims on the field, no bracer for the Cumans, these skirmishers are okay, but not fully upgraded, so just decent for the time being.
Cavalry on the field is okay, they'll get picked off though, your thermal's got some good R-Bless micro.
Well what's the ideal human army here in late game, cause they look kinda shit to me in late game.
Cumans don't have the best late game, but they have some decent options that if used well are solid.
So they have fully upgraded Hissar, they have some decent skirmishers with full armor at the very least,
They have fully upgraded Halbid Ears, which is a decent option for them.
I believe they also get fully upgraded Champions.
And then they have a decent Kipchak, alongside Siege Jam and Siege Onager.
So pretty solid, flexible options, but no crazy power unit.
Yeah, they don't have the Bombard Cannon, right? That's the difference as well between these two?
Yeah.
Like Bombard Cannon available for Italians, but not for the humans,
which have been a very strong unit whenever games go really late.
Yeah.
And Bombard's super solid here, and some rams are already coming out.
out. Captain Lance is using the Hussar flood to just keep the villagers at bay and of course right
here Genoese Quaspo would outperform the Arbalest, but even if you are going Arbalest you have no
chemistry, you have no armor upgrades, only one. This is a very weak army for Uthermal and I feel
like Captain Lance is just kind of making short work of this. And also trading cost effectively,
he's just sending trash. These are food and wood units, he's trading against gold units
and also keeping my Uthermal earlier by using his gold, wow he's actually just down.
Wow very very questionable game from your thermal like I will say
Catalanth I think just mind game you thermal completely your thermal probably thought as the point was going to go for the fast
Imp the one that he's done twice before catalanth is kind of showing his knowledge of age of embarrass to here
Kind of changing up the game plan going for the massive human boom
Which is definitely something they can do and do very effectively and I think your thermal really panicked into that
I don't think he knew what to do and uh
He kind of had a very basic game plan of R-Blessed Castle forward, but that was easily
stopped from Captain Lance.
A bit surprising seeing as he said, what there, surprised by his very thermal performance
here?
Yeah, I thought he could have kept playing it for a bit too, no?
I think so.
It's also a bit of a weird game because it was like no leather control, they didn't
really break the walls even.
Yeah.
He could have played back a little bit, maybe, you know, like an archer ball going,
but then I just gave up like instantly.
Yeah, I think there's a lot to play for still, like, okay, we lost a lot of
Villagers lost a few Arbalest, but we still have tons of resources in the bank. We still have a lot of gold in our walls
Like we don't really have to rush this we're going to use to expand some stone
We're expanding to the gold out here
We could easily just set up an Arbalest ball in here go for some Hussars or some pikemen ourselves
In the back and just move out when we have a bit more army
I think you just rushed it to the center and I really don't know why but your thermal has not been the most solid on this map and
Even without a king side but then she just kind of calls it here and maybe preserving the mental
Maybe you just don't want to get tilted, I think, and the next map is going to be Arabia from your thermal, looking to get back on something that he can attack early on, fair enough.
Yeah, he's getting the first big point.
I do think there's at least something to be said, but, you know, okay, if you're going to resign a game a little bit early, at least you save yourself the mental drain of just sitting there and losing and losing and losing.
He was sending units into a meat grinder, essentially.
But you know he'll head into a different map he gets his pick now and these are best of five
So you have a lot of time to like recover
But this early lead is a comfort zone for captain lines because of how a BO5 works here if you win the first one
You will have two maps that you choose if you win both of them
You will win the series right if you win the first game
You will be able to win by just winning your choices as you move forward a little bit confusing way toward it, but I
Yeah, I see what you mean, yeah, it's like if you want the neutral maps and not all you
have to do is you have to win your home maps, see if they managed to do it.
Yeah.
Just kind of messing around with the cameras a little bit.
Hopefully this will be decent.
And obviously now at a good chance to even take Uthermal's home map if Captain Lance
can do that.
But yeah, this is what I expected.
Uthermal is higher MMR, but Captain Lance, man, you cannot sleep on him.
I'm telling you, that is sandbagged MMR by the treadmill.
The treadmill has kept him down.
He's way stronger and I did message him
We talked a little bit after our series and he said that you know
He respects everyone in the tournament way too much to be treadmelling and they would be throwing the game if he did
So I know now he's unlocked full potential. Yeah, he's off
After oh the winner of this place why go or loser of this place why go I think so, right?
Yeah, she'd be facing Wagah. Yeah, I'm playing loser and
and
It's gonna be right after this
No, I think we're gonna do the other other the other
Upper bracket one first. I'm not sure what's happening if H rock will be given a chance to play or not
I'm letting my admins to care of that, but
Probably not as well say and same be this this match and then another upper bracket most likely
But we have we are behind schedule now like pig is not here as well
So we'll see what the schedule is looking like it's a very complicated situation like the chat's giving your opinion
But guys, please keep in mind in the chat that without HROX set, PIG is not here either.
So you guys are giving your opinion like, hell no, that's not fair.
I know it's a terrible situation.
I know he already got the cue, but we're so behind schedule.
I don't know what's going to happen, but we're trying to do the best thing possible.
So please be patient and stop sticking by the rules.
We're trying our best to make it fair for everyone.
But it's a really bad situation both ways, OK?
Because of how the schedule is kind of messed up right now.
So just keep that in mind, we're trying our best and let's go ahead and hop into this next game here, Thermal in red as the Portuguese, and Catmulans in blue as the Bulgarians, this is your Thermal's home map on Arabia, talking through the matchups as I fixed their cams.
Oh yeah, we're on Arabia, this is the map that we actually have played, same as what.
What do you think? Do you think it's a forceful large Bulgarians with couples?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, right? It's so fucking easy.
That's what he did against me and it's very strong because you don't need to gather as
much stone as you otherwise would need before you drop that building and get your unique
unit production going.
So normally you need to save up for the full castle, the 650, now 350 stone is going to
be sufficient to get those conics coming out.
It's a very good unit.
I didn't actually like find Bulgarians until very late into the ladder and realize
that hold up.
These guys are insane.
They're cavalry that come back as infantry when they die.
They're like two lives, they're ages.
Oh, Sing Sing, talk us through this.
It's a boar laying from Captain Lance.
He went straight across and he's stealing a boar.
Sing Sing, this is your time to shine.
This is how I lost my boar too,
what can you do, Mark, actually?
He just blocked the boar and he went back.
Yep.
It's really hard to see a boar
when someone's close with his scouts.
Look at how good he is at keeping the aggro though.
Lance is staying clean.
Making sure not to run too far.
I think it's gonna be aggro soon, but no.
It's not the Tigering because of the wolf.
How it works is you just need to have it within GaiaVision, yes.
Your scout has to stay within GaiaVision.
So the deer counts as well?
Deer counts as well.
So the scout has to stay within GaiaVision
and the boar can chase.
Oh, I thought the boar was like individual.
So now the boar lost its vision.
Because it went out of GaiaVision.
Yeah.
Not a lot of people know that, by the way.
It's shared GaiaVision.
And, yeah, if the deer or the wolf is there,
you stay in vision, you can run far from the boar
and still keep it, but good job from your thermal.
He stops the boar there after all and boar walks back
and seeing what are the advantages
and disadvantages of blaming.
You've done it the most in the tournament.
I don't want to single you out,
but I think you've got good experience.
Bro, you've got good experience.
Are you late bastard?
Yeah.
I mean, you just steal their food, right?
Like it's like 350 food swing or something.
There's seven in the food swing.
Yeah, it's 340s or 680 swings
Just stealing the food from your opponent as well. It's pretty huge. Hey, but it does come at a cost of losing some HP on the scout
If that's something that concerns you or is that not, you know a big deal?
It concerns me a lot because I like to scout rush to like right afterwards
Yeah, but I think it's still it's always gonna be worth the more
The interesting is that if you try to lame and he's a scout is close or even like in front of you already then
It's cooked. Yeah, I think you almost never win that fights
Because you have lower HP for one and secondly he can just block the boy if he's good enough and then
everything's cooked, it's over.
Yeah, absolutely. So there's a bit of a risk there for sure.
It feels like all these minor advantages, you know, this feels more like home turf to me as a Dota player,
because Dota is essentially a game of all the minor advantages.
And I think many games that we play, us noobs here on AOE2,
are decided not by minor advantages, but by major decision mistakes.
Like, oh, you went for the wrong unit complex. That's not a minor thing.
You lost because you just did something huge, but this I can relate to a lot.
I feel like you know getting those small edges and then winning just a grind game
Makes a lot of sense. You should do everything you can to get ahead. Yeah, absolutely
And what's funny about this term is like you said there
it's usually the major mistakes that tend to swing it and
The overall decision-making that matters the most not the little advantages even though in pro play
It's usually the little advantages to pile up and lead to the victories. Captain Lance by the way
Going to the stone when he's done this before. He's gonna phosphor rush fast castle into unique unit with the Bulgarians
We're gonna see the conics and new thermal one of the strongest person in tournaments. I don't know if he's got a response to this honestly
Yeah, we'll see it's tricky unit to respond to as well, right like
Can you talk me through a little bit how that works because singing I actually played we screamed the the Bulgarians
I played them and singing it up going for like some spears to counter it but then
And the Spears also don't really do that much because they lose to the dismounted version.
Yeah, so the Conic, the unique unit from the Bulgarians, is a horse unit, as strong as a
knight, maybe even a little stronger to have more attack.
So think of it like a knight.
And then it falls down, and the unit that comes out, the dismounted Conic, is like
a longsword.
So you make one unit, and you have a knight, then a longsword, just from that one unit.
It's very, very strong.
The way to counter it is you cannot fight it in melee combat.
You have to fight it only with ranged units or monks, something that specifically counters
a melee specialist.
Ethermal getting some nice hits there, but Captain Lance certainly playing towards his
unique units and that is how you want to counter it if you're Ethermal.
Also we'll have Captain Lance, yeah exactly, you need something ranged then to deal with
him.
Not how Captain Lance goes all the way up to 23 workers before clicking up here,
this is just him trying to get towards that perfect timing for his unique unit of
course I'm playing for the castle timing so you thermal reacts to this though he's
gonna see the stone perhaps if he sneaks behind here yep he also sees the faster
uptime she's wondering yo where's my opponent he's not in feudal age and he
sees the stone he's gonna confirm that it is in fact the fast castle into unique
in it now do you want to talk about something here the Bulgarians have a
crepo it's a castle like units or building rather it costs only 350 stone
So a regular castle is 650 stone a crepo is 350 stone so 300 cheaper
And you can still make your unique unit from it
So the Bulgarians have a huge advantage when it comes to rushing your unique unit because you don't need to make a castle
You can just make a crepo and be fine. You thermal sending two villages forward. He's looking to punish it
How would you punish this though? Let's figure out what he's got in mind stable at home with two of us forward
So we can do I
Think he's gonna sneak around onto the stone, right?
perhaps even go for the berries plus the woodland but we'll see where he wants to drop this yeah it
does feel like a lot of time has already gone by look at the resources for captains already
oh the forward range he almost has enough stone already he has enough stone even for the compass
they're over the range first so it's not gonna be like a tower he could still tower later
you're almost gonna want a range first but since you did say that you thought was gonna
known for a skeleton to archers so this is not too much of an adaptation there for him he
just has to make the range forward. I guess it's still his comfort zone.
Yeah, but he's not playing in his normal timing, so I think that's the main difference. He's not
playing into that, you know, that castle edge into both game plus crossbows and then walk
at your enemy timing with Manga Nels following up. Yeah, so it's very different from his
usual game plan. That's true. I would be scared for him, you thermal that is, because
I've been in this spot with early aggression play with Militia with Man at arm threat going
in and just trying to do whatever damage I can. I feel like you thermals play here is
hitting a bit of a later timing? This tower could be big though.
Yeah, the tower from the thermal. Count the tower.
Yo, Captain Lance really wants his counter tower. Holy shit, he's brought the whole horde.
Ten villagers on it. The scouts go through. The thermal is looking pretty aggressive here,
but that tower is going to go up for sure.
And he has enough stone already to make the Creposte anyway, so this is fine for him
investing and now he has a secure, you know, last little berries and this entire woodline.
But it's so hard to get onto and pressure these guys.
This is kind of bad though for Lance. Like, he does have the stone actually.
He sold a little bit of it, so he doesn't have the stone anymore actually.
This could be bad. He's getting hard.
Oh, that's really bad timing.
Yep.
That's super painful, no?
Is it going to go to buy stone or something?
But like, selling stone and then going to go to buy it, it feels like this is not really
what he wanted out of this. The archers will kill these villagers if they run the
the scouts kill them so the between a rock and a hard place quite literally here
and I don't know what Captain Lance can do. Uthermo's got a nice punishment here
to this fast castle strategy. The range makes all the difference right bringing
the range the scouts alone would do nothing but yeah these archers are gonna
actually force the villagers to to try and make a run for it. Dude Captain Lance
has been teasing Uthermo with the scout the entire game. I'll always be scouted
that never dies but Uthermo's gonna look to block beautiful play from Uthermo
That's Starcraft micro that's 1000 APM. Look at this
Hey, you split them the look two of them all right the sacrifice to distract them
Can't say in the last solo giga brain
That's pretty cool
There's the two villagers. That's probably best case scenario actually from that situation
So what plate from Captain Lance they're making the best out of a tricky situation and he's buying back that stone
They need to buy another hundred a very inefficient in terms of you know resource management for Captain Lance
But that was of course, thanks to the pressure from the thermal cap months is trying to make the best out of it
But behind this you thermals gonna go with a market
I've made a lot of farms
I think usually less forms more gold and you buy your way up is the way we want to navigate this kind of follow-up
Hey, did that guy just get like the most unlucky stone placement in his life like that those 5,000 funds
Yeah, pretty bad five times worse than ever seen in front of a hill very far forward
Camelans will lose a villager and will finally lose that scout.
Krepos onto the golds, the thermal constipation of one bill, he goes for the lowest he built.
Well played to him, going for the weak one is great.
I think he's just committed to it.
There we go.
Killed four villagers by the way.
It's crazy all the strong villagers are sometimes.
It's just your scouts are weak, they're not men at arms dude.
Yeah, that's true man.
A Roman swordsman would have stood in there happily.
Yeah, the Roman swordsmen aren't insane though. Those guys are super super tanky.
Wagga of course making good use of them
Now, you thermal has a 15 village elite. He's still in the feudal age though
Catmulans finally was working his entire strategy towards the Shkrepos
He needs the conic that will come out of this to do some crazy work because he's taken a lot of punishment so far from you thermal
Villagers running away for his life and I save itself. He's
He's pretty imbalanced on his eco right now, but only 5 on food for Captain Lance, and the
Konek also requires quite a bit of food, so it's not going to be so easy for him to start
spamming out production.
He needs to get more farms, but then he needs the wood first.
So, I think here, like you said, perhaps he's going to be using the markets to try
and fix this.
Well, he's not making villagers right now actually.
He's actually not making villagers.
Pat Mont is stuck on 21 villagers.
He's now made his first villager of Castle Age.
He's prioritizing the Konek production.
It's the spiffing Brits!
It's not a very good one maybe but one that must be used under dire circumstances got zero on food now
He's pulled in his farm villages to kill the tower
Maybe not the best to take the farmvilles, but he deems the tower a huge threat
So one I'm already shooting to
But the utermals base is kind of squishy right like there's no stone walls lots of palisades lots of
Maybe over chopping there by the blacksmith
Yeah, very close.
But this tree is coming to wood.
By the way, this tree?
Over here?
Yes, this tree is wood.
But again, the spears are not a perfect solution to these units as they can still fight on.
Yep.
They actually get a damage increase when they become swordsmen as well.
They have 12, they get 13 when they go this number.
This number is 13 in fact.
That's crazy.
Yeah, it's stronger.
I'm calling doubt on that.
I don't think it's 13 attack, I think that's the elite version.
I think the regular version is less than 13 attack.
No, this mounted elite is 14, and elite is also 14 on mounted,
but on the non-elite it's 12 and 13, at least if the tooltips are right.
I'm used to broken tooltips though, in our game we are all over, so it could be wrong.
Dude, you might be right, they keep buffing and changing shit, so I'm not even sure,
but we'll see, we'll check when we finally see a dismounted conic,
which might happen or might not happen depending on what happens in the next few minutes here.
Thermal is up to Castle Age or is in Castle Age now probably Crossbow Botkin. He loves his rangerness
Am I wrong in saying that Captain Nassid is in a comfortable spot now though because he survived to his own castle age
Listen, whoa
Yeah, this is huge. Actually, I think those are deleted wall from the thermal to try to group up his archers
But Katman says thank you very much
I'm gonna go in and looks like you might have our first dismounted conic here is Wagamama, correct?
Well, Vatach is wrong.
The tooltip lies in the hotel.
I think you better check the elite one, but it's okay.
It's okay to be wrong, man.
Don't worry, you say.
Don't feel too bad.
This looks fucked, no?
Yeah, this is terrible for your thermal, by the way.
This is terrible for your thermal.
You have four crossbows.
He's bringing the villagers in.
Wait, the conics are so strong, but keep in mind,
there's a lot of build discrepancy between the two players.
As long as you thermal doesn't get completely cleared up,
he's kind of okay here, but those villagers
are not doing anything to those conics.
They're so tanky.
He's queuing up a bunch of crossbows, he wants to solve this, but there's someone in there
hitting him.
Oh, this is beautiful to watch, man.
Look at it.
Yeah, dude.
Those villagers have to run.
This is crazy.
Oh, you're about to see it.
All of a sudden, the Ville Count is actually even, by the way.
It's three villagers apart.
Captain Lance adds a second town center.
He's in a great position.
You thermal is getting completely destroyed by those conics.
play to let them in disastrous that was super super bad for you thermal did
careless if anything a second TC the play hello don't you think it is all in
the their chronic units we just want now honestly I think you should have but
maybe he didn't think he's gonna get in so you want to play a balance game but
I think seeing how this played out if you just had like two more comics in
here he would just win the game on the spot but maybe you just want to play
it safe because he wasn't guaranteed to break in it was kind of a mistake
from thermal that let him in so kind of balanced approach you thermal
clears it up and it's pushing back now Kamalan's trying to transition into some economy
Deer the towers and now 3 TC boom
I don't know, he's almost bouncing back though
Yeah the 3 TC boom is greedy now and I think thermal's army composition seems good against the connex too
He has the spheres, has the crossbows so I think now the wolf even getting in the mix
The wolf they're gonna kill me thermal, you thermal 2v1
That was disastrous for him
He's lost a bunch of villagers
It's got Pykeman upgrade now. Pykeman are good versus the Mounted Connick, another e-thermobile going down.
Everyone's having their way with those Vils.
Pykes are good against the Mounted Units, but when they dismount, you need the Crossboost, but the nice mix here is solid.
Let's see what e-thermobiles can do with it.
Lother, he has 3 TC with 6 forms.
Yeah, it's not the best situation.
Well, I think getting the TCs first is okay, because you kind of establish some control of the map and then you just get the farms up later.
But yeah, this is not like a 3 TC boom.
All these TC's are idle and you thermal attacking so Captain Lance does not have that much of an economic advantage if at all right now versus you thermal
Yeah, it's pretty vulnerable and I just want to see Lance or you thermal here bring you know some way to actually crack down the buildings as well
He's a great player at mixing in the right unit comp so we'll see if he brings the siege workshop at some point
Yeah, now I'm just looking to do damage where you can
Yeah, you thermal went for the two TC boom behind us so he went for like a two TC setup
He's got crossbows coming forward now looking to play a balanced attack whilst having some economy behind it
The Portuguese I think is is actually most played civil the rank ladder or at least one of them
So they said he knows inside and out and he's looking to do good damage whilst keeping a solid economy behind this and
Camelons can't really defend this he can't defend against crossbows without siege and he's very far from having siege on the field
Yeah, these villagers will just get pushed around and this idle time is hard to manage as well because he's everywhere now
Oh, and I can't get the block to something, what the hell is blocks?
Yeah, I love the happening issue here, but you can see how squishy they are without the arm upgrades.
And those guys are just doing nothing. So, Iconics look really good against melee units, but against ranged units, they kind of fall flat.
Unless you get enough of them. Capmulans, dude, I think Singsing, I think you were right. I think the TC is too fast.
Might have been the Kryptonite for Capmulans here. I think that kind of ruined his momentum.
It's fine if you had farms for them, but these people are starving man. They deserve gold to eat.
Nothing else. Yeah, I get the farms down. He's using the market a lot to survive
But okay gets a crepus then again still a little counter to the crossbow. So like wherever the crossbows go
He's just to leave
He's doing a decent job of staying alive. But look at this behind this a flashback to your thermal third town center
We have a university life is good in your thermal position
Yeah, he's happy to do the damage he's doing not looking to smash down buildings
He knows he's idling so much and rebalancing a lot of captain's lances equal for the worst right these abandoning farms running away and
This is just putting you thermal in a better and better position
Look at the resource collected difference right now. Not even leave a thousand yet for Lance. That's crazy
4,000 difference
That's way more than I could have ever expected and considering cap months killed more villagers
But it's just that idle tc 16 minutes bro 16 minutes of idle tc is ridiculous
I like at least he has plus two armor
It's not plus two armor
It's just tough, he's trying to play with only Connix.
I feel like a siege workshop and a scorpion just clears this, or at least pushes it back.
Connix only, I feel like you're playing on hard mode.
They're stuck behind enemy lines now, these crossbows. Sure, they're denying the gold,
and he's trying to deny both the golds.
That's like, you can see you Thermos making a conscious play to play on that critical resource.
That's why he's always hovering over here.
I think that's really smart. He knows he can't stop all the wood gathering,
but he's playing for the exposed gold mines.
Yeah, it does spot the scrapers up top, loses 8 cross before it, but that vision is nice.
Catalan's going for the clear up here, he's got 6 conics going in, he's got plus 2 armor,
2 planks on the front, one gets decimated, yeah there it is, but a couple conics already going down.
But I think this is a clear up, more lands overall.
Oh yeah, very nice, and now he actually gets to keep a little bit of military along with it
And maybe finally can start feeling like you could start booming up a little bit with these TCs
And by the way, you know, I think he's in a bad position like okay
Yeah, he's got like less food income, you know, not the most amount of farms here for Captain Lance
You thermal also very little on food as well. He's starting to add some farms himself
We need farms for both players here, but keep in mind you thermal does not know
He's at a 15 billy he probably thinks that Captain Lance has been on three TC for a while
And therefore he's got a good economy the score is also quite close
I honestly feel like you thermal might mind game himself into thinking that Captain Lance is in a good position when it's really not
It's actually a great point that I would totally expect that I'm behind on bills when I saw these super early tc's like from our perspective
It's obvious, but that's not the case
But you are working with very limited information when you're playing the game. Yeah, even with a good scouting
Yes, yeah, gotta keep that in mind even as we as we cast here more army coming through though you thermal
Got ballistics these crossbows are insanely strong versus the iconic
Pikemen in front as well just making it harder for the conic to swarm in one guy gets picked off and
The rest are forced to run looking good for your thermal just fighting down the center
But captain Lance has pretty defensive defensively structured base. Yeah, well defensively structured base, so he'll be kind of okay on defense
And just gonna get units and it's he's so stuck
Nice knife.
Needs a bigger military.
The one villager.
Trying to offload some of the pressure by sending raves, but these TCs are doing wonder, just
yeah defending.
And he has not over chopped here as well, so very nice.
Ballistics is the most important tech in my opinion, especially in beginner play,
intermediate play, really even in pro play, it's just good in every single elo.
Probably a little less good because people know how to dodge ballistics effectively,
But in general, Ballistics let you counter Cavalry raiding, like Cavalry just running
around all of your arrows, super fashion to play.
You get Ballistics, all of a sudden they come in, they just die to your Townsenders, maybe
some defensive Pipeman, and all of a sudden the raids are not really that big of a threat
here.
So you're Thermal, picking up that Ballistics deck, having a solid 3 TC setup, he's very
hard to raid.
And he's using that time to attack with his army instead of being forced to send
them back.
It's a beautiful play from you, Thermal.
He's playing positionally as well, just keeps going in harassing this one forward TC, the
main TC, that's not really been able to have effective farm time for Captain Lance, a lot
of it being denied non-stop.
Keep checking that main gold by the way, we did talk about that earlier, that very
decisive play from the Thermal to challenge the neither golds.
That main gold, he's just not allowed to take it, look at that, gets across from
a back on it and Captain Lance wants to take it, he just can't.
At the pace we're going right now, it almost feels like the gold is going to be the thing
that forces the status quo to break here because yeah you have your back gold but it's only
going to last you so long and two of the other golds are very controlled by your thermal
non-stop.
Yeah, some losses there, Crepo is doing his job on defense, I 100% agree this is the
only gold that Katmance is working.
Now this will last him until in Pure Lich most likely but you know you don't want
to just last him until in Pure Lich, you want to be able to play in imp if you
want to win this game.
Your thermal is almost close, you know, on the way to MP, it's very close to it.
And so, you know, just surviving so MPs not get enough, another build goes down.
That gold is just getting so harassed right now. Wow.
Look at that. Even doesn't in the east, he's set to stand ground across
those behind the wood line. So once they chop deep enough, they're also
going to get harassed over there. This is something your thermal does
in every game he plays. I feel like he always sends some random range
to just stand somewhere and pick off people.
This is crazy. Like Katmoth is getting one guy. It's so hard right now.
It's the one guy with two kills.
Akana keeps coming out to try to kill him, but then there's more guys to come in.
Maganel whiffs the shot.
It's just the control from Uthermal solid, but Camelot's actually even out the build counts.
He's doing a good job of keeping himself kind of in the game.
I want to see maybe, you know, fast imp or, no, let the imp prioritization from Uthermal into maybe a forward castle.
This hill is beautiful. If a castle comes down here, Uthermal's going to be in such a good position.
Yeah, it's a very oppressive hill to hold, especially as he's got all these range units.
It's hard for Captainized to push into it with this unique unit.
You just have the Manganols, but if they leave the TC, they can also be snapped, right?
Yeah, they can be micro-down.
Manganols, generally speaking, a counter to crossbows, but as we know, with good micro,
you can maneuver your crossbows to counter the Manganols, and so therefore, you can't
really just move out with one, but I think moving out with three, you throw a solid
player, but even him this might be too much.
I think the layer of gold on this.
You can't touch that main gold of this, and every other gold is like in fucking nowhere.
Yep.
Yeah.
Got three tiles left.
The thermal is still not on stone though, so it's not really going to that deny play.
Yeah, I know Forward Castle is up to imp though, that's a huge deal.
He's rushing to stone now, I think maybe he realizes dude, the Forward Castle would
be fantastic right now.
But even if you miss the forward castle timing just having listen our blessed bracer continue doing what you're doing
You're already ahead. There's a theory in RTS where if you're just ahead you can just stay ahead as long as you don't throw
So just not going for the kill just continue building advantage building advantage beautiful micro as well
Just dodging that manual dodging the crepo's and leaving wow that was
What the fuck did you see that?
He killed the Dorn Magano!
What the fuck?
It's a...
It's a recent!
That was crazy!
But the Magano on the front missed and this one's just like killed it!
That was insane!
Yeah, well that's what happens if you miss your shots.
You get shot.
That's...
That's insane.
Well at least...
That's the actual reason.
At least Captain Lass's Magano killed something because if not, they're just sitting there doing nothing.
So honestly, this guy's walking around like a Chad.
Gotta kill him to the manganole. More conics going down here.
But that's so funny.
I mean, I killed my own rams with manganole, but at least, you know, that happens when you target the same gate with those units, I guess.
Oh, it wasn't not even an enemy there, by the way. It's like you clicked a farm or something, I don't know.
I don't even know how that happened. I think it was just an attack round, but there's no reason to do that.
But either way, Captain Lance, killing his own manganoles and with Imp coming in so fast for your thermal,
thermal it's gonna be so hard to come up with a counter to these are blessed and
dude always someone showing off he's literally showing off oh my god he's
trying that's a lot of shots needed I mean you can keep my cream but that's so
sweaty though like you have for some repairs like he forces some repairs
which is actually sapping the wood and gold from Captain Land so that little
sweaty micro is actually good and I love to see it just min maxing
everything thumb ring our blessed bracer coming in we're just missing
chemistry for like the trio of Imp upgrades coming in here for these R-Blast. There it is
and Portuguese get all the upgrades a little bit faster as well. So you know what,
Captain Lance and a lot of trouble. Just repairing siege units on the map
costs the same as the formula for buildings or what's the cost for repairing units?
If you repair it fully, it's half the price of remaking it basically.
Yeah, so like the buildings, this way you want to hit the expensive buildings.
Yeah
Yeah, bloodlust the castle's coming castle's coming. Yeah, there it is the village is coming forward
And we also have a couple relics picked up for you thermal
So all this control has led to this one forward castle moment. We drop a castle on the hill
I don't think that catmulans has the tools to stop this because guess what the crepo's you can't make trevus from it
So you cannot you can only make batards and batards
I feel like not really enough to kill a castle, that's a beautiful castle on the hill, Uthermal
has played a clean game here, punishing Lance for his foster style, fast castle. Fast castle
unique and a very powerful strategy but it's not going to work against the player, it's
experienced and strong as Uthermal. Uthermal is looking to finish off this game in style,
beautiful castle on the hill controlling that stone, Kamaz is in trouble, in big,
big trouble.
Man, makes me think back though to that timing where Captain Lance was in the
The comics were on the wood line, he killed like 15 bills or something, 13 bills, you know,
he was doing some serious damage.
But those small, small differences, and that really speaks to the level that these players
are at, right?
Because I said that us noobs, it always feels like it's the major decisions that are ruining
the game here.
It was like, oh, make two more units.
And you probably won the game there.
Yeah, absolutely.
Oh, no, I'm not gonna know.
Actually.
So Caps is hitting the Townsend actually, but yeah, the Maenos do nothing against Imperial
Enge army usually though.
Especially when all those upgrades come in.
It's gonna be like one last charge from Captain Lance.
He's trying some light cavalry as well maybe, but Duthrimal has 180 population, he's got
69 army right now in the field.
Trebuchet coming out.
Some raiding here at the back, but it's just one conic and he's already getting
chased by some defensive army so...
It's one last charge.
Let's see what Captain Lance can do for us here.
to wrap around with the arbalest to support the left flank and the ballistics doing damage
as well, targeting them.
Good surround by the way.
Really good surround from Catalan, so kill a few arbalest, even if he doesn't win this
game showing us that he knows how to do that kind of surround.
Dude, that can really help him for the next few games.
This guy's got skills man, that's pretty impressive.
Yeah, it can be troublesome sometimes to get the mass DPS.
We've heard the StarCraft players, you know, sometimes say my units are bumping
each other and so on, but he made it look easy there.
Catalanth's trying to go in, R-Blessed doing good work on his conics, you thermal got good
micro attack, good hit and run, he's clean with it.
Of course every conic just gets dismounted, but if you just target the horsies, the infantry
afterwards really doesn't do a whole lot and that's like the bulk of Catalanth's army
made into basically just bits and pieces here from your thermal's kiting.
Another four castle, finish him off, finish him off you thermal, castle is ass, that's
what I like to see.
you see replacing the TC with it all BM that's the end that's what the TC was
brother this is this time now oh no the castle fire is one last ride the
comics will die for sure oh they don't even delete comics yeah they have all
the armor on them you got bloodlines but like no leads and not that many of them
it's just not the strongest unit here
Trebuchets on the field, Kreml is going down, Connix going down, the Villages are still dead, building the castle.
Looking like it's a GG, and there it is in the chat, Uthermal. With the 1-1 equalizes the score,
we have a series on our hands. Catmulans are the great first game on Redisette Fortress,
but Uthermal punishes the fast castle beautifully. A strategy that many people considered overpowered
and unfair. Uthermal has completely countered it and is now equalized the score at 1-1.
really well played from the thermal the stark f2 guys are back in their boy and
captain Lance have come up the path of Exel see and doing very well you know but
has clearly met his match in your thermal do you think that your thermal was
punishing the the phosphor rush here hard enough or was it the little bit of
unfortunate decision selling the stone and then having to rebuy it from the
gold like did that hurt him too much what do you do you think the effort
that Uthermal put in was enough to really stop the Phosphor or was it more that he fumbled?
No, I think Uthermal stopped it honestly. I think
Sing Sing pointed out the forward stone was terrible for Captain Lance, that was really,
really bad for him. But I think Uthermal punished the strategy beautifully, he scattered it and
then punished it. Captain Lance actually did okay to manage and still like make a game out
of it, but overall I think Uthermal was the main reason it wasn't really like a fumble in
my opinion. I'll let you guys talk about the next matchup happening soon. I need to go use the
washroom, but it's going to be CapMont's home map now, so let's see what he decides to cook up,
and I'm going to wait for it.
I hope that they're choosing Arabia again, because you know it's where I feel most at home,
but I do feel like Arena might come on. You know, I think every player has
some thing prepared on arena that they want to do, you know, some strap. And it's always nice to
try and get that, that easy one. But I think you turmoil is a beast on the radio.
There is. I think it's showing us arena already on the shared screen here. We can see.
Yeah, I think it might be the best.
Well, you cut out I think.
Oh, sorry.
I was saying how he's probably the best Arabia player in the tournaments.
Yeah, probably. He's very, very solid at it.
Like, he also is very good about not losing, you know, random stuff.
Like, the Borer steal the Nye, he did that twice now.
He did it in the game against you and here he was on top of the Nye crew again.
again, even though Captain Lance did a great job trying to keep the the bore laning going there in
the early early game, it still didn't work out. And that's a lot of like, commitment, right? When
you run forward, spend all the time trying to micro steal the enemy bore, but then in the end,
you get nothing out of it. And you lose HP on the scout. Yeah. Oh, that's really awesome.
That's HP on the scouts. And a little bit of focus, I guess, on this own, this own base.
Yeah. Yeah. As long as you don't randomly idle or mismatch some eco, I guess it's fine.
I think. Yeah, no answer that game. If he never went for the TC's and the villagers,
I think he just wins that. You know, like, possibly does it, he just cuts village production
completely. He just buys the food or never your names and it sells the wood or some shit.
I think he was uncomfortable, right? Because captainize, he did cut villager production
at first. And then I think he made the TC's to try and make up what he lost.
But I think you just have to tough it out and just say okay, I cut villager production and I wanted to you know go rush
Then you really need to do damage with that rush. You can't half-ass it. You gotta go, you know
Need to have some nice words on this
Oh, I don't say it. You don't have to say that one here
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We're about to head into game three between captain Lance and you thermal. They're in the lobby and captain Lance is going for arena
Come on. He's going for arena. Oh, wow
Different map than what you thermal likes to play you thermals mainly Arabia and
Yeah, they can they can get started now whatever they want. What do you guys make of arena here?
How do you guys think about arena versus Arabia in general? I think the meta is vastly different
Oh, it's really hard to practice arena properly in leather because every
I would say two of the three games. It's some bullshit. Like it's a monk rush
It's a castle in front of your gates. It's like some imperial rushing Turks and in bombards
So you never really get to play like a booming game on arena
And then because it's so vastly different in every single matchup, you never get to lock down the strats
And that's how everybody's stupid math. Yeah, also the stupid map
Okay, fair enough, it's a stupid map.
I mean, yeah, go ahead.
I do think a lot of it comes down to that.
It's hard to know what's going on, right?
Like, and that's, that's what feels stupid because it's hard.
If you only have two minutes to react to something in Age of Empires,
that might not be enough time for you to set up the building production,
the unit production, or the tech switch that you need to address that thing.
And Arena is very hidden.
You don't really know what your opponent is doing,
unless you're really good at reading the score,
reading the uptime and understanding the sieves
and their general tendencies.
And these things are hard for us as less experienced players.
I kind of agree with that.
Even if you guys are 1,800 players,
like the top of the ladder got pushed to 1,800,
but are you thermal at 1,800, a grubby at 1,800,
a sink sink at 1,700,
do you guys have way less game knowledge
than a 1,700 who's been playing for like 10 years, right?
And so the only guy that really has insane sieve
knowledge is actually Captain Lance.
The other guys, even with higher elo have way less
and you have a really good point about that, Mr. Waga.
The walls here, the walls are not only defense,
but they also completely deny vision.
Take a look at what Waga sees, sorry, not Waga,
about what he thermal sees from his opponent, nothing.
Even if he goes against the wall,
he can see maybe a little bit,
he can maybe see a little bit over,
but that doesn't really show you
what Captain Lance is doing all the way back here.
So even in this, you know, deep pocket.
So Captain Lance, and in fact,
both players really on arena have a lot of options
for sneaky openings, all in pushes
can be scouted and whatnot and I think that's a big difference here between
Arabian arena scouting and vision very limited on arena and that's also like
something that I tried to do against Sing and Sears we played just before on the
arena was like when you hit feudal you get a little bit more vision on your
scout so just running there licking the wall you know running along it you
can maybe get some info on like where some resource could be
but in Dark Age you really have no clue.
By the way, this sieve picked by Captain Lance, the Malay,
we saw the Malay used with the hyper aggro play coming out.
That was some fortress-regicide though, but coming out from Mr. Llama.
I wonder if we're going to see some form of aggro play as well, this game,
or if it's mind games, Captain Lance is like fainting it by picking the same thing.
That's really cool actually. For those who missed it,
I think it's gonna be a set that hit YouTube if you're gonna go back and watch that one mr. Lama
With a really nice rush with Malay
He used it against pig and actually won that game sorry for the spoilers, but he went with a fast castle castle drop
Well, he had the castle it was ready set fortress
He made a bunch of Rams and he went ram karambit straight across the map and just one
He one tapped the entire base of pig. He broke castle
He broke some walls and he just completely cleared his economy with that all in love that you brought that up
Wago because I think the same thing is actually possible here if Captain Lance wanted to go for it
It's a bit harder to use to make that castle. You don't start with it
But still you're pulling it also doesn't have a cast of her defense. It's got a lot of potential
Burgundians
I do want to say here is actually a top tier pick on arena something that gravity practice a lot
Something that most most pro players consider it a top three arena pick
So you thermos playing meta and Captain Lance my lady's a good sip potentially a bit like bit off-metta or a bit less on the
tierless compared to Burgundians though
Wow. Look at this. See, trying to funnel or is this like defensive?
It's a funnel. It's funneling. It's just dumb as a mechanic in the game, dudes.
Yes, I agree. I'm trying to get the devs or like smuggler.
Yeah, the diagonal wall or something, right?
Yes, you make this wall.
They want to walk to the other side.
Yeah, and they will meet at the town center. It's so stupid.
So the chickens here, they naturally move around a little bit
bit and if this chicken goes to this side, they have to take the shortest path which is all the way
around and coincidentally, Catmoss is talented here and he's gonna eat the chicken. So the chickens
and the rabbits don't know about this whole setup that Captain Lance has concocted here,
but it is a death trap and unfortunately the rabbits too low IQ to not fall for it. So we're
gonna see a little bit of a funnel come through and I think a lot of people are trying to get
the devs to remove chickens from arena because it doesn't really add any strategic variants.
It's just like, one guy who doesn't know how to funnel ethanol just mills them, and the other guy just funnels and now Capilines has an advantage.
He doesn't need to make a mill, which costs 100 wood.
Yeah, and he goes with the scout to scare them, pushing them so that they actually got tried to move to that other side.
He's trying to speed up the funnel, I guess, getting a little further forward.
But like, that's a lot of idle time. Is this even worth it?
We're just like, investing in the funnel, but like, just make a mill, maybe.
Let's see if it does work.
I think the gate might be not...
It must be yelling at them.
Yeah dude the gate is not well positioned. There has to be one tile higher up I think.
But no here we go here we go. They're funneling they're funneling.
It's the food! Oh! It's gonna be not fasting soon.
That's my favorite thing. Bro they're running! I'm trying to make it.
Cap Lance! He's ready for them! Get him! Don't let him get away!
Oh my goodness. Dude it's kind of dark though. It's kind of like...
I don't know. Don't turn around, brother. Can't you see? Your brethren are all dead.
Yeah, that's trapping. Yeah, he is rot-maxing though. That's a good point. All those rabbis
just dead at the same time, all rotting at the same time, and not as efficient, let's
say. Something like you thermal just milling them, but I don't know. You do pay 100
the mill so I'm not sure what's actually more worth it in the end I think the funnel is good
any math on the wood cost I'm not sure like you'll delete all these wood palisades
but you'll still lose like what like 10 wood on that plus that walking time of the villager
so overall this has its cost associated to it oh my god stone mine cap of stone he's gonna go for
that rush why okay he's gonna go for the rush the one we mentioned this is doing it the mr
I copied that I stole it and now he's doing it.
Not on the same map, so here it's like rushing with melee
because yeah, exactly, Ram and a unique unit infested.
But the only thing here is that it will hit a little bit later
because he has to get the stone.
So obviously there's more setup on arena to do this.
But one of the big advantages I imagine for melee to do this
is that they actually have a faster uptime
and that gives them the potential to rush a little bit more.
Yeah, it's like, Kamlan has to pave his cast here,
but his opponent does not have a cast to defend,
and Uthermo has no idea this will come in.
I love the commentary in this game so far,
because we kind of mentioned how
you don't really have a chance to scout this.
So Uthermo will see, oh, okay,
my opponent is behind walls,
he's not contesting the relics,
oh, he's probably booming.
And the Burgundians are probably really happy
to just pick up the relics.
They're going to probably go like Gav, maybe just some monestates for the relics.
Pregundin relics also give food in addition to gold, so Uther was thinking,
oh my god, I can just pick up the relics for free here. This is great.
But Captain Lance is preparing an all-in that he has no way to scout.
So this is going to be a very interesting game, and yeah, we're in for some cinema, to be fair.
Yeah, and it's pretty indistinguishable from whether Captain Lance was just fast-castling, right?
It would probably look pretty similar. The uptime is faster from Captain Lance here,
So him being faster than the thermal doesn't necessarily tip him off in any unique way
Yeah, this is like a regular fast gas to build the guy could be booming, but then oh my god
He's not booming
He's actually making a castle and you actually just don't have a single clue that this is happening except if you can somehow
Just expect it or if you just have a suspicion but as far as like actual vision they're not really gonna help you out there at all
So how do you play against this then like?
Whoa, what would you do?
Because you would have to consider that you can do this right so actually I I just I just played against a strategy from the Japanese actually
same concept
On a recent game
I was the Bohemians and I expected it to come so what I did was I went for a
Sports each push the cheddar forces hand as soon as I made the workshop
He started coming across the map
I see it right away I go defensive castle workshop behind it
And then I had some monks from earlier and I was able to defend pretty easily actually and push it back
But to be fair, that's my adaptation. I've got like a million hours in this game
I don't know if you thermal will be able to do all that in a short amount of time
So it's difficult even knows about this. Yeah, that's if he knows about it. That's true
Dash, by the way, just what you said
Real quick that dashes pointed out this one goose here that he can't see because of the gate flag
So that's a hunt is a fun
It's a hundred footage. Don't have access to you for no reason. So that's kind of fun. Oh
Oh well the poor chicken got pushed, at least the goose got away, he's just hiding behind
the flag.
He saw what happened to the chicken, he saw what happened to the rabbit running in, he's
like now I'm sitting in my ass right here.
Alright Bearx.
We're not moving, as long as you stay still you're fine.
Wait Bearx, there's one spear, oh no, it's not going to be the ram, it's going to be
a forward castle, it's going to be a forward castle, this is a lot more simple of a
strategy than we anticipated, it's just going to be like forward spears, forward castle.
Camelons is trying to sneak out
So all that talk about like a ramp push, I don't think it's gonna happen
It's just gonna be a forward castle from Captain Lance using the spear with extra armor from the melee
They get the armor upgrades for free to try to push out and look to defend that
That castle and meanwhile you thermal made a barracks, but no stable so far
So he doesn't really have much to stop this forward castle
He could make some Flemish militia with the Burgundians
But nothing more than that Camelons is going really sneaky around the side by the way
Why have I never played Melee? They seem broken. I'm like reading them now. I'm learning stuff from this game
What do you mean they get the armor for free and and I see they have a unique tech that makes militia just a straight-up food unit
Yeah for late game very very solid. They're good. Melee is a very good civ
Yeah, it's one of the bestives in the game for a lot of closed maps
So they're okay for like for open maps are okay, but hard to play
But still like a solid civ on a closed map
after one of the best tips in the game.
And here's why, like you get up to the next age faster,
which means you have more villagers.
And Catalanth is out of his town center,
but normally he should be up five villagers
over a generic save with Malay and Castle Age.
And he's going to go for the forward castle.
And I don't think you've almost seen this yet.
Yeah, it's just that vision.
Look at this, beautiful from Catalanth.
He's so good at this.
He knows exactly where to put it.
Yeah, can't see.
Can't see?
He's booming.
Oh my God, oh my God.
You've almost added a town center.
Oh, this is terrible for him. He's not the best arena player. He doesn't really like this map and
Dude, if he has to play two or two arenas versus Captain Lance, he's cooking up some crazy shit every game
It's gonna be hard for him. Monastery to take the relics as well and you thermal with the Burgundians
He's in a good spot with the economy upgrades, but not going for the relics is strange
And oh no the typical you thermal gather points
The chat if you guys have been following you know what this he always
No, no, no, it's a mistake. It's always as this. Oh, yeah
Well, gave him the benefit of the doubt.
No, no, no, no.
The piece of selection in this game, I have the same thing.
Yes.
When you switch between control groups too fast,
it lingers like an ally, a tenth of a second or something,
and then you click and it box up.
Yes, that's exactly it.
Oh, oh my God!
Oh, he's reaching around?
Oh, no.
I thought he was going to go in.
It looked like he was doing it.
Oh, he could have stood on the gate forever, right?
Yes.
And then he sent an army in.
That was a huge bumble from Captain Lance.
I need to know what happened.
Stone is being rushed in for a thermal.
It's got some resources to work with and try to come up with some kind of counter, but
Kamans sending in the Karambits, very short, very squishy infantry units.
They count for half a population each and they're very cheap.
But if you mass them, they can be very hard to deal with, right?
It's super fast to make as well, right? So he's spamming in and there's a lot of them already.
It does not quite have the tools yet to deal with it. Surprise he's not rushing it.
Yeah, I feel like it's giving time here.
Catmulans give a little bit of time extra for your Thermo.
Your Thermo uses that time to just go ahead and add in some houses.
He's going to wall up no siege for Catmulans.
So as long as there's no patards coming out of the castle,
you can't really break in here.
You can hit some houses,
but as long as you thermal repairs and rewalls, he'll be fine.
Actually, Thermo's doing okay to defend so far.
Siege works up in the back.
This is a decent game for both players so far.
So Catmulans will take the relics,
and he's got to have nice control outside of the base.
He's also heavy on stones.
Maybe a second castle forward from Captain Lance could come through here
Yeah, he's committing to it staying staying on the golden or on the stone
And there's a great spot for a castle if you can get it here between the stone and the gold would be denying
Two very very important piles of resource
What are you supposed to do here if you're a dermal?
Oh my god at this point nothing like if you had the manganoffing
Mango earlier would have been really good, but right now with no mango. There's not much you can do
You have to just give ground second castle for captain Lance. There's not much you can do
This is crazy from Captain Lance. You have to just give up ground
Unless the man got condescending next mess I'll just know
Okay, well, I'm a plan right of some kinds
Okay, you gotta make a new wall right hitting the villagers
This could be kind of good if not go boom on the side and then look to imp and push back
maybe something like that but this magnet could deny the castle by the way it could be in time
oh it's close i guess it can house it back right no he won't have to leave the house yeah
keep the house you can go in he's not gonna go for it though oh i don't you think about that that's
so hard to have the those high four yeah you can go for it your thermos got a 15 ability by the
way it's still winnable you give up the give up the ground you still got gold here you got a
lot of wood it's like infinite wood on arena virtually you can farm at the back and install
till imp. You have a castle, castle, secure yourself, and then you can push back, or you
can just do what Wakadid did and go ramps to try to break the castle. You've got two options
for your thermal right now in defense. This is not over yet.
I'm a bit scared for him though, if these houses fall, if it opens up because the
Karambits are so fast, the the manganelles could be punished by it, no? If a dive is ever
possible here? Absolutely. Yeah, Karambits, you know, even a petard on the house, you break
Run in, dive, try to snap the villagers, try to snap the Magnals, could definitely be a
play for Captain Lanz.
I think Captain Lanz should play towards Fast Imperial right now.
Fast Imperial, try to pick up some Trebuchets with the Malays, usually a good option.
It's going to be Rams though, it's going to be Rams to be Thermal.
Okay.
Yeah.
He wants to break this uncomfortable position.
Not a nice thing to get both your forward gold completely denied like this.
Yeah.
have denied a lot of farm tonight as well.
Magnus will help defend though, I like this.
Oh, it isn't huge.
Good shot!
Big shot!
Half the army goes down, you thermal, the nice defense there.
Dude, I have so much to say, so you thermal is massing Coussivier, a unit that has been
very underused as to lose the village on the market.
This unit has a charge attack, it has 8 plus 20 damage for the first hit.
Every minute it gets 8 plus 20 damage as the charge attack strike.
It's a very, very solid unit to go for, and it's going to go for rams to break
the castles.
Now Captain Lance is trying to go for a fast imp. If you can get the imp safely with two castles forward
Who will win the game by trebbing down everything from Ethermal, alright?
But if Ethermal gets the timing and uses the rams to kill the castles all of a sudden, there's no threat of a, you know,
treb push and also Ethermal's got a lot more builds than Captain Lance.
So Captain Lance is all in with this fast Imperial time. What do you make of it guys?
He has a hundred seconds basically. The imp timing is coming up
So he needs to go quickly here and do something, but he doesn't really have the army count yet on the side of the thermal
Yes, he has the seed ramps, but you need something to support them, you know
Yeah, a couple of them
Yeah, it's it's very fast. It's a way it comes in. I think it's faster
crazy
Yeah, if you're like coming in quick couple of buildings going down and no loom by the way
We have a loom only now coming in of course 25 minute loom when getting cast a drop
So many villagers dying because there's no loom, but it's a mega loom every game is a mega loom like this
These players never learn again. He's doing crazy shit with the micro. Just forgets loom
I'll breathe putting on their little armor, you know, instead their random like
aprons or whatever
If you're a little bit, I think you thermal might choke against this Imperial edge that he might be like, oh
Holy shit this is crazy, but in theory if you just commit to the Rampush you can still win
but he needs to commit, there's no time for him to go imp now.
He needs to commit to the Rampush and he's not making them which is making me a little nervous.
Or two rams enough, or do you need like five? I feel like you need ten.
Yeah, yeah, I need two.
Two is not enough. I would say five is minimum here because you need to do against the Karambits as well.
kill the castle while the grambits are trying to kill your ram so two is nowhere near enough and you
think I'm showing it like this is terrible yeah they're also non garrison there's nothing in there no
no pikes no nothing so they're not moving very quickly slowly crawling up this house oh yes the
watch out they doesn't do what i do and kill his own battering rams as well i'm not gonna let us
Garrison play is the worst rampage I've ever seen. Oh
That's crazy from Lance
Garrisons he killed around with the manganese. Wow
Trumps is trapped. Oh, who is this guy?
Did you delete the castle and save the trap I wouldn't
Now he's going to die. Wow, that was insane from Captain Lance.
He was in and out to dodge the Magninol. The Trev is still saved.
He can get a village at your pair if he really wants, but the castle might go down, the Trev might survive.
Oh my goodness, it's Lance Domination. He's the captain for a reason,
and it's the captain that's destroying the thermal space completely now.
Karambit to kill everything, and the Trev's to take down all the buildings.
A beautiful, beautiful play from Captain Lance. He's for sure over now.
over now. The 80 villagers are good for nothing. You've almost tried to go Cavalier Stam? I
don't think it's enough though. Wow.
Yeah, he's just over this now. There's no, look at the poor wood line. Cherry's getting
some units in, but the number. I don't care if the Cavalier are strong. Look at the
amount of Unique and it's coming in for lands.
Yeah. They also got the free armor upgrade and imp as well. So like, these guys are
supposed to be squishy, but like they feel really tanky and early in because it's
like they just have so much armor hard to deal with Cavalier will destroy them one-on-one but of
course it's never a one-on-one it's like a thousand on one with these Karambits
he can just keep spam producing and he has the four trebs as well he's kind of keeps
slowly moving those forward take out more of these tc's and at least you thermal is trying to
mass up his cavalier he's realizing he can't really fight unless he gets a few more
He made 8 stables in the back.
He's trying to stand.
He's just trying.
I think because he didn't do it right away with the round push, I think he just didn't know what to do honestly.
I don't blame him. It's such a weird situation that Catalanth is like concocted here.
Cranbeth taking engagement against Cavalier.
This could go either way actually. It's a lot of Cavalier here too.
It kind of feels like a Cumans threat.
On the fortress.
Yeah similar.
Same vibes.
Castle forward and second castle forward trebs fast them. That's very true. She's to be kept once his favorite style it seems
Yeah, it's selling a bunch of resources trying to get whatever you can to get more cavalier on fields producing more
But the PCs are all dropping yeah, it's homeless villagers now look at them
Where do we go? Oh my goodness? We have to run. We have to run
I don't think I know where you're going.
You thought we were going to make a mill.
I think it's going to get shot down immediately, to be fair.
It's going to the corner.
It feels like Helm's deep.
It's like the last retreat right now, but it's not looking good.
Can I go to the stables boys?
There's no even a TC back there.
Is it just stables?
Stables and farmland was nothing.
One guy just starts farming in the middle of nowhere.
There's no place to drop off the farms.
These guys just live here.
They're not even working.
They didn't live there.
But the Cavalier woke me up with the Carambits, I think, a little.
How many are stacked there, though, actually?
No, there's 20 Carambits here.
I don't know.
Oh, wow.
They have them fully stacked there.
He's putting up one hell of a fight here towards the very end.
Yeah.
Five of them stand.
The funny thing is, Uthromba has a 20-villager lead.
It's not worth anything.
No way.
20 literally like this to show you guys how these all ends function like a
balance has a very poor economy behind this but it's just enough he's got the
five bucks fueling his gold economy he uses the market to buy a little bit of
food and makes really cheap units with trebuchets to kill everything but the
amount he's killed is so much a new 3g okay and your life yeah I suspect you
get it's John is best bro I have a question
era what if you made batards now do the Cavaliers die to a petard blowing
up in their face not really so the petard that's 25 damage only two units so like
the petard is not that aggressive versus Cavalier oh you know what's going in he
dodges actual value value Cavalier that might do the same no nice thinking about
it maybe but he's actually trying to cut off any form of reinforces oh this is
not what he wants to fight oh that fight wins the Chad yeah it took down
too. That's you. You're not a hero. There's a brother here. We're back to the berries.
My goodness. Oh boy. Eight dissaturation. Eight dissaturation. You got way more than
eight. It's terrible. It's terrible. Horrible. A block went to coming in. It's gonna give
extra three range to the monks. You turn them all. He's in a terrible situation.
I don't know what you do here. You're stabbing the mill. You're stabbing the fucking
mill and you throw a mix another one it makes two it's so smart this is
fantastic captain latz brings in the monks now he's the only guy who's the
boxing monks yeah they have 12 range now with block renting so to convert the
cab and you throw them all in the corner you look at the meaning of who
You're terrible. It's like a pocket. This is terrible.
Yeah, this is the funniest spot.
Finally it goes in.
Finally it goes in GG.
You're terrible. No one can say he doesn't have the fighting spirit, guys.
GG in the chat though. Captain Lance is the freaking chef.
Bro, what the hell is this guy cooking?
Seriously, I mean, fast imp.
We've seen it with the humans and Redus had fortress.
Now we see the Malay doing something similar.
He really planned it out.
He went super sneaky mode with the villagers out the side.
Came through with the castle.
2nd Castle forward to all the Relics. I have to say though, I think Uthermo, not playing
Light Gav to play for the Relics like the Burgundians normally do, I think that really
hurt him because he had no units on the field to stop the Castles and especially that 2nd
Castle that was illegal. I think Uthermo should never have let that go up but even
after it went up, not committing to that round push, Uthermo had many chances and
I feel like he just kind of fumbled them all because he didn't know what to do.
Either at least having some scouts out and controlling the relics like you said or getting some form of vision on the map
If you don't have presence in former units, I think you need to have build something forward
Maybe outposts maybe some you know external housing like you need some way to see this attack coming
Yeah, otherwise you just get taken by surprise and it's so hard to be defending out of nowhere
Yeah, and you thermal is now down to match point
Let me just show you guys the bracket once again here just to see what we're talking about right now
Captain Lance playing ASU Thermal, of course, it's 2-1 Captain Lance.
The winner of this will move on to the upper bracket final,
a very prestigious position to be in.
Of course, the loser will face Wagamama in the loser bracket quarterfinal in a knockout stage.
We have Grubby versus Pig after this, and I have a final decisive say,
Knopf versus Hrock will not be played.
Knopf gets the win, it's not going to be reverted,
and that is the final decision made.
We're not going to go back on that, so just a quick update there.
We'll find out what we do with the schedule.
but that will not be changed.
That feels like the best decision.
I know it's not a good decision
because there's some Hrock fans
that really wanted to see him play,
but at the end of the day, I think
that's the decision that feels the best.
So it's not, it's not Knopf's fault at all.
He, you know, is more than in his right to get that win.
We gave Hrock all the chances in the world
and it's not even Hrock's fault.
He stopped and it happens.
It's fine.
It's no problem.
No worries there.
Either way, no hard feelings.
Knopf takes the win
and it's gonna be the Swedes
in the loser bracket quarterfinals.
Awaiting the captain.
So the top six remaining here.
So we're waiting now.
Atrock says fair, it's my bad.
I stayed up till 4am practicing.
Good luck to Knopf.
Atrock just working too hard.
He just tries too hard.
He cares too much.
He's got a lot of bad qualities like that.
And it happens, bro.
No worries, Atrock.
I will say I was excited to watch you play,
but it's fine.
Fair play to you.
Hopefully we'll have you in the castor booth
at some point,
but fair play to Knopf as well.
He'll move on.
He showed up and he gets the win.
So just wanna make that very clear.
But I thank you all for bearing patience with us.
It's my first time hosting a tournament,
so always hard to make these calls.
But anyway, back to Captain Lance in your thermal.
It's gonna be your thermal's home map.
It's two to one for Captain Lance,
and it's gonna be thermal to win two straight
or fall down to the loser bracket.
Wagga, I have a genuine question for you.
Which of these two players would you rather face
in the loser bracket?
Because like Captain Lance is maybe slightly weaker
in terms of micro-macro,
but he's got so much more knowledge than your thermal.
What for you would be the better matchup,
Mr. Waga.
I mean, I did, I never played against Captain Lance
other than match we had officially,
where he absolutely stomped me.
Previously I thought that you,
you thermal would be the harder matchup,
but seeing this series as well and how it's going,
Captain Lance is just showing to be very deep
in his understanding of the game.
And I also want to point out it is two to one right now,
but we were like millimeters away from Captain Lance
taking that one game that you thermal one,
he was nearly out as well.
So I think so far Captain has just looks like a scary player man.
He's very strong, I felt it first hand.
I think he thermal, my captain, captain my captain,
you know, come to the lower bracket man,
come hang out with me.
Let me take out your captain.
See how that plays out.
Yeah, you went through the nation round.
You went through like so many different stages
in this tournament and to face your captain
in the lower bracket,
I think would be like the biggest test yet for you.
We're yet to see Grubby play today.
Grubby vs. Ping is of course next up, but for now it's going to be Youth Thermals home map
and he's decided on Arabia.
Alright, it's going to be Arabia for Uthermo, and Captain Lance is hosting the lobby.
We're going to be waiting for the match to get started here.
Yeah, this is where he shines for sure, like saying pointed out earlier, like Uthermo
is a very good understanding on this map.
The stressful part and the downside for him is of course that Game 1 that Captain
Lance came in, more decisive, more early aggression, more action coming out from
him or unit production early means that he doesn't need to win this one to
potentially win the series. He still has one game to fall back on whereas the
thermal he just needs to double down here one win here and then win on Captain
Lance's pick and that's scary man. Yeah that's really scary and it must be said
as well Captain Lance is just it's not just a guy that just knows things he
also has insane micro like we saw from that Karambit play just going in and
out of the castle to dodge the mangane shot that was a highlight worthy
of like pro play that was insanely well played from Captain Lance kind of making a making a fool out
of the Uthermal Manganos they're killing their own rams so Captain Lance has the knowledge
he's also got the skills to back it up here and the game has started guys we're gonna be hopping
right in Captain Lance versus Uthermal who's rocking the name Fortress Specialist which is
kind of funny um sometimes you have to channel you know channel something to try and manifest
it but didn't necessarily work out yeah I think that that play on the castle was
beautiful because he also ran into the castle from behind and hopped out on the
front right it wasn't just that he was dodging the shots but I think he
actually just teleported his troops to the front line there it's really nice
to know all right just kind of setting up what is this safe this is
Molly is Molly is or I'm familiar with them I actually practiced them a
a little bit. Don't worry, Hera, I'll take this one.
Oh, please.
So Malia is an infantry save. That's why I'm familiar with them saying. They are kind
of like Romans, actually. They get automatic armor in feudal and castle and imperial, however,
it's only pierce armor. So they're not giga-chads like the Roman Manatarms. However, they do
get pierce armor, so very good at raiding with their infantry if you want to. But
I've seen them played as a non-Man at Arms rush save as well and just been useful for other things.
I don't fully understand what else you can do with the go Man at Arms, so that's where maybe here I can fill in.
Yeah, absolutely. So Malon is actually not an Infugitive, so that's definitely not the right call from Malon.
I know I'm kidding.
Thanks.
Just let you finish and dunk on here.
The funny thing is, I can just spit up a story and I'm right for sure, because Argyra Yatesby
is like the hardest thing in the world when you're just like trying to piece together.
No, I swear they're infutusive.
They aren't infutusive, that's true.
Laga, some good comments here there on your end.
Malian's actually quite flexible though, so on top of being infutusive they get
extra armor.
They can do most things pretty much until, you know, until Imperialism.
Like late castes, they have everything.
So they have a double eco bonus.
Their wood buildings are cheaper.
they also gather more gold. So anything wood gold, they're in a really good position to do.
So something like Men are armed to archers, it's a beautiful strategy with the Malians.
We also saw Atroc use the Malians for an all-in archer play against Uthermo actually,
and he went for something like a 17-vill up, stop-making villagers, 3-vills forward,
2-range archers, and he almost worked. Atroc almost got the upset against Uthermo,
Uthermo just barely held, and so the Malians are very flexible with a lot of
of cool strategies based on those economy bonuses.
But I want to ask Singsing something here, you've played against the Romans, it's the
most picked of the term, it's had a lot of success, how do you feel about the Romans?
You feel like it's really hard to fight them, do you feel like it's broken with the very
tanky infantry, what's your vibe there?
I tried to fight them with the mugger scouts, but it wasn't good enough.
You have to go archers against the Romans, there's no archers, if you fight the
melee they beat everything in through the edge.
Yeah, I think so as well, let's do the Akers scouting strategy.
I mean, you just have to like...
You go ahead.
Yeah, I'm feeling like you're doing Spears, right?
Exactly, yeah.
And then you set my slip again.
Exactly.
That's what I was gonna say.
And the Spears come in and just ruin the scout strategy.
So you're pretty set that you have to go archers.
And I guess you have to make sure you're walled,
because in that Vietnamese game,
you had a very obvious hole between the house and the range.
I think everybody fought in the chat.
Yeah, it was obvious.
Yeah.
Very obvious.
Kind of cringy.
I saw it immediately, dude.
I ran in.
Yeah, you did walk in.
You can think about it.
Yeah, I mean, Romans definitely the strongest sieve that we've seen, at least the most consistent.
And Cap'n'Lance is kind of trying to use that very consistent Romans, try to get that
win and close up the series against your thermal.
Your thermal relying on the malice.
He's played the sieving and syncing as well.
Played it more like archer timing though, less on the infantry.
See what he has to go for right now.
20 pop click for your thermal.
It looks like Cap'n'Lance is thinking about the same.
Yeah, and Cap'n'Lance is pushing the deer already, so he's getting that extra
food very valuable when you play any form of early aggression like this as well as getting
extra food and you can see he has the mill to the left so nice heads up play that he actually
just farms with the villagers over on the berries.
Yeah, he did.
Did he get rid of those?
Yeah, he did.
That's a good question.
You thermal did skip his gear actually.
Yeah, he did.
Interesting.
Yeah, on the left.
Yeah.
Did he see them?
He scouted them, right?
Yeah.
Oh, he didn't see them.
Oh, he barely missed them.
I wonder if that's in a vitamin the ass though because like going forward is fine getting that scouting info is actually okay
It's gonna fight against the land scout. I think trading is a scout in your point as Romans
It's really good because the Menoram rush is a lot less scary if they don't have that scout to block as well
So it's okay for for for you thermal game that scouting is fine
But it does mean that he's got less food. So like one this food runs out
Not having the deer means okay. You got you got a farm earlier, which could really hurt his
You know his productivity in terms of military in the early feudal
Yeah, already seeing a little bit of a difference as well as you thermal is
swapping on to quite a bit of wood gathering as well at this point and of
course Captain Lance doing the the Roman build pretty much he's clicked up we
did not have production yet though. Yeah pretty strange actually Waga your
build is a lot cleaner so clearly Captain Lance is not as practiced with the
Romans which is fair enough he does play a wide variety of civilizations here
but I mean it's not the end of the world but Waga you were a lot more
deliberate about getting those men arms, you know, up right away, hitting that perfect timing.
This is quite late for Captain Lance. He's prioritized the walls instead and that could
be okay but this rush is not as powerful as it could be because the timing has been missed
a little bit.
Yeah, he's not going to full send it, right? This is not going to be a five man Militia
moving forward. It looks like it's going to turn into a three man or a very late
five man. But five man late Militia feels useless. So I think now he just goes
three Militia forward.
He might go forward, but he's going to wait for us.
We'll see.
Nice going.
3-4.
Yeah, 3-4.
And okay, let's say, Sing Sing, it's you with your thermal with the stable.
You try to fight this or you try to counterattack first?
Uh, I start to say, because normally the timing is different.
She's already in the base, right?
I think if she's already in the base, I would defend.
But if she's this late, I would counterattack.
This isn't moving back.
not really sending this. This is a very defensive opening despite investing resources. So to me it
looks like he's he's waiting for the blacksmith timing as well. Maybe the you know, the villager
allocation in the early game didn't allow him to get the immediate armor upgrade and you really
want to get the man at arms plus the armor if you're gonna fight. Yeah, he's just in forever
right now. Yeah, that's what happened in in singing my game was the same I went forward as
Militia and the same went for Scouts. Now we have sort of the same thing.
You don't want to lose your Militia to the Scouts before getting upgraded. That kind of
happened in my game, so he's trying to avoid that. But at the cost of maybe losing that valuable
temple, mana terms are not good as a defending unit. Yeah, mana arms to defend, it's not where
you want to be. I think like just attacking with the mana arms and defending with a couple
spearmen to finish serving a lot better. Missing that armor still, that armor
should be rushed. And honestly, I think this just makes us appreciate Waga's gameplay a
a little bit more with the Romans this time easy rush to hit all the timings with and Catmulans certainly has not really found the
optimal way to play Romans it doesn't mean that he's dead
It just means that he gives up a chance to get a lead in the early game
Which is what you're trying to do with the Romans is just inefficient and not the best play
But it doesn't mean that he's falling behind or anything like that
He's got the formula so he's got the four-minute arm with armor on the way
You can still win this game, of course, but you thermal kind of kind of chilling right now
Do I have like a sigh of relief because Lance has not been playing Romans a whole lot from
what I've seen so if he could just you know, sharingam my Romans here, come in and just
play them perfectly as well, I would actually just cry.
So seeing that his opening here is looking a bit shaky, the man is human at least.
Alright, that's how you get coming through.
I'm seeing some words in the chat that this map is not fair or something for your thermal.
I'm not sure if that's just a meme or you guys are thinking this map is not fair,
but I've checked it and your thermal has all his resources.
He just has some, you know, not the best woodlines, but this is not a map that should be restarted or anything like that.
This is not anything out of the ordinary.
Not sure if that's a meme or not, chat, but I will say that this is a completely fine map.
map. I mean, Captain Lance has a bit better woodlands for the walls, but your throw wall is
completely fine as well. Wait, is there anything that's falling off the wall? That is the thermal
snapper's bad? Isn't it nice? That's what the chat... I'm looking at chat, that's kind of the vibe
I was getting. I'm not really sure if they're just meaming or not, but yeah, it looks like a
decent map as well. Like, easy walls towards the woodlands here. I mean, forward build's a
bit nasty, but it's nothing out of the ordinary. It looks very vulnerable, though, but that's fine.
He's making his map so much more so by putting everything downhill,
every hill possible. Like he's aiming for it.
Yeah, that's kind of true.
There was not even a hill disadvantage there.
Um, but no, but even still like, I like the kind of,
okay, maybe a little bit further out, right?
But I like the kind of wall he's going for,
because it lets the focus only be on that forward goal,
which is nasty.
But at the same time, there's only one focal point,
you can defend it.
But anyway, so far, Camp Lance is just playing turtle style
and just defending.
That being said, men are on the move,
and, uh, you know, it's not fully, fully walled here.
In fact, an opening right here, berries are exposed.
There's gonna be nasty. There's quite a few archers already though. Look at that little archer group on the left
They could rally back and defend this if they need to but yeah, you know captain Lance is you know heading towards
The economy needed for his castle edge timing, which is a fantastic timing for Romans
I'm sure he didn't go early. Yeah, hyper aggressive
But if he does get the armor up in the castle edge timing you become merely invincible in these guys
Yeah, three-minute arms kind of looking around. We have the armor upgrade done.
The thermal has chosen to attack with the archers, which is not a bad decision by the way.
He just kind of waited at home, saw nothing come his way, and he's just moving out now,
looking through harassing wood lines, maybe break the wall. But at the same time now,
Captain Lance is here with four-minute arms. The thermal has walled up. Oh,
Oh! Stag's the farm! Stag's the farm!
Still the farm?
I hate that mechanic right away.
It's a great mechanic.
It's a great mechanic. I will argue this with you and Mr. Singsing. It's a great mechanic.
Why? Why?
Because it promotes aggression. And if it wasn't the case, then you can just literally just drop a farm anywhere, and your opponent can't use that position, but you can't kill it, so that's bullshit as well.
But it should just be like buildings, where there's nothing there until you actually place it.
until you actually place the farm. I mean that's fair as well, but then like you can just randomly place the farm
where your opponent wants to make a castle. I don't know it feels a bit strange.
And then you kill the farm like normally.
There's no fucking way dude.
I used to watch all these these men at arm were struggling a bit running up.
The entire woodline getting punished as well.
Yeah the archers doing a lot of work over the woodline here.
And
PC I mean this is kind of fine though like Camelons gets some value from those men arms like forcing the garrison's actually decent
Which is good. Yeah, I think see you kind of want that argument
I'm not gonna lie, but the end of the day I'm way higher ill of the news. You're wrong, and I'm right
It is what it is
It's not a fair world. No, but actually you made some good points
I'll get the devs on that soon and the pixie within two decades. Don't worry sing sing. They work fast
I have a connecting question here. I used to watch a lot like quite a while ago back when you know Viper was dominating everything and so on like
kinda old days. People used to scout with farms. That's the whole thing? The old photo war placing farms?
That's not a thing. They fixed that. People used to scout with buildings. This is crazy. Let me go to the chat as well.
There's not too much happening. Just archers harassing a wood line.
Back in the day, if you look at your thermal position, you see how this is scouted?
It's not like the black side of it scouted, but he doesn't have current vision here in the past
You just use a farm or like a house or something that's very cheap
And you just scan it you'd hover your your your mouse over this area
And if it turns red and tells you that you can't build there that means your opponent has a building
So you can just sit in your base hands on your nuts and just literally scan the entire map of the house
And just see where your point has buildings and you see it's something red. Oh, he's forwarding me. I'm gonna attack this area
Fantastic, but it's been passed out
Oh no, look at the three archers forcing all the villagers to move again. They have to run across them
I mean they're running up top, but that area is not fully safe yet. Yes, they're chasing the archers, but
He's like he's like pushing the arches away just trying to get like some temporary wood access Captain Lance
Just doesn't want to be too homeless
But I mean he's losing some efficiency on the woodlands and whatnot like a lot of walking time and whatnot
But Captain Lance is at the castle edge. It's not too bad
I would say though advantage for you thermal for sure one minute 30 faster castle crossbow
Botkin seems to be talking about how he likes to do this fast crossbow timing
How do you stop this what do you do well listen you have a lot of options you can go for like
three barracks like he's doing you can buy time with a tower or more walls and then push it back
with long surge you can counter attack while defending with a tower you can go for a siege
workshop at home we got a lot of options Balista man I would like some Balista here coming
out this like if the opponent is going max crossbows and pressure new but it's
definitely nice yeah scorpion and the Romans you get Romans Romans get 60%
cheaper gold on those scorpions I think you need the tower on the gold
honestly if these guys just go straight to the gold I'm surprised you
thermals not going there but this gold is so exposed a lot of those villagers
are weak too but I like that would like to see thermals cooking
Yeah, same thing that he was doing.
Are you fighting in different spots?
An armor coming in.
Yup.
Longs defending as well.
Hectic game.
There's like five different fights going on at the same time.
Yeah, they're all over the place.
Some really random swordsman is running in.
Yeah, swordsman is kind of looking for something.
I don't know what they're looking for.
Crossbows are still good though.
Without these upgrades, crossbows destroy these by the way.
These are feudal age units against castle age units, but the upgrades are coming in long
stores within 10 seconds of armor.
This armor also counts as double for Roman.
So Roman longswords in castle age, super super tanky, and now Captain Lance is looking
to expand to the town center.
He needs a new woodline.
His land is barren though, there's no woodline here.
He might have to go to the front, which is actually kind of terrible.
Yeah.
He's going there.
At least that will give him some safe haven to start getting more resources.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, his swordsman cost a little bit of havoc, but not too much damage done.
Yeah, Thermal's going for the Ballistics first, the University being dropped, and 1000 on the wood.
I like this balanced approach, just 2 TCS, University at the back.
Malians are fantastic at using their wood saving bonus to afford both Ballistics and an extra Townsender.
On top of that, the Malians have Ballistics or a University that comes in 100% faster, I think.
So, University techs for Malians are very quick to come by,
So this Ballistic Blade is going to be a nice timing attack for your Thermal to put some pressure back on Captain Lance,
not let him reclaim the map with the longswords.
Is this Captain Lance's game to stress in Castle Age here? Do Malians get an advantage?
Because typically I feel like the Romans, the Great and Feudal, they're even better in Castle,
but I'm not sure how they scale towards late game against a Sib like Malians.
Yeah, so the big thing with Romans is that they get a lot of power spikes.
So the infantry now is very very strong in early castles, but as soon as you point out as a counter
they kind of fall off again way to the next age. The problem is in imp, Romans kind of fall off a little bit.
They have a great imp composition of legionaries, centurions, heavy scorpions, they have really strong units, but all of them super expensive, right?
So they don't have anything to play for in terms of early imp, and that's the problem.
So now the Romans want to secure a big boom,
But how do you secure a big boom when your swordsmen are getting clapped by the crossbows?
And that's the hard part for Catalanth right now. He might need to lead on some scorpions
But the longswords are also by themselves. Just not doing a whole lot. I
Think his eco got stressed a lot. He went for a triple Barracks plus now the triple TC production
He only has 11 on food
So this is gonna be really rough to try and sustain he doesn't the siege workshop
So at least he can offload some of the production into these corpse who are gonna do amazing
against the cross post. Yeah, scrupping really good counter here. Longships forced to run like
he's got nothing. Uther was gonna do the kind of try and test that just splitting up the army.
He's got great micro and good awareness. He can micro both sides pretty well. And this is gonna
be a fantastic situation for Uther. I'm gonna just harass the villagers over the wood line.
Oh, this wood line that he walked so far to try and get as well. Yeah, he's maybe
stacking up for the scorpion coming out. Big shot. Some damage. But Uther was
He's got a good micro here.
Oh, yeah, he made sure of that.
He made sure of that.
Nice DPS.
But again, one Scorpion, right?
One Scorpion is not going to beat 10, 12 Crossbows here.
He needs like two or three Scorpions, and then you can approach this and kind of clear
it up easily.
We're splitting up the army, and we've got him a found his way into the base of
Captain Lance.
Captain Lance, that's the hole.
There's two villagers dropping.
You can go to the woodland.
You can win this game right here right now.
This is fantastic for him.
Great micro as well.
He's trying to stay away from the Scorpions, meanwhile doing damage with the other
units.
At the same time a counter punch being thrown by Lance, but it's pretty hard to get in so many walls are up
And it's trying to break onto this range
And that longswords, but you're hitting a range is cross was behind. I don't think that push is gonna do too much
That being said though Lance is depending with the scorpions
Look at that three scorpions and now the cross was can't fight it. You can almost got a run
But you know what has given me? Oh, this is crazy
That's that's game, right? You can't come back from this that has to be game
37 villagers only. There's no counter to these crossbows. Your thermals are so good with these crossbows.
You remind me of Leery, actually. This is exactly Leery's style.
You put pressure with crossbows, insane micro with a great 3TC boom behind it.
It's a nice balance between economy, timing attack, and range micro, and your thermal has insane awareness with his army.
Always just moving it back and forth, punishing every mistake in Catalanse.
Scorps are looking for the main army trying to do something to them but they're so much
faster as well just running away and at the same time splitting into these small groups
never really fully stacking.
Yep.
This is maybe not the most cost effective trade though fighting into the Scorps and possibly
a TC.
I guess he'll wall then, yeah he couldn't leave, it was a high squad.
By the way this is like really bad for your thermal, this is that I was praising
his awareness he's kind of lost track of those archers outside and dude the Scorps
at the back of cleared up the archers so now Kamalantz has a lot of momentum you
thermal lost a lot of crossbows and a kept lance despite being like half the
villagers the 30 villains behind he's got a lot of momentum to try to make
something happen is it gonna be enough let's find out he's got a part like to
it's saving up the stone like he's 500 stone so if you can get a castle to
support the pressure but leading these units is so costly that there's no
food frame and you cannot really support this starving bro I think this has been a huge problem
for Catmilan she's got four on food right now okay like it's freezing the inner ring is empty man
there's nothing to eat these farms are also just a graveyard they'll just go there and they die
they don't want to go back dude this is the last push for Lance he's got no economy behind us
maybe it's the long con you know the the bodies will make great fertilizer and the
the farm should be extra efficient though.
Yeah, I got that long term decomposition factor.
Yeah, the compost straps.
Even with these scorpions, I'm not really vibing with a push here from Lance because your thermal has insane micro
and your thermal is also coming forward with the castle.
Your thermal always goes forward with the castle.
The villagers come carrying all kinds of gold and treasure and you just want that castle
but maybe right now it's just at home is better.
home beautiful hill control the two golds this is a great decision for your
thermal just to not throw the game yeah and I think he has enough of his
crossbows to hold this as well yes they're pretty tanky on these long
swords but if you keep splitting into these small groups you run the risk of
just bleeding and we've seen a lot of that the sort of attrition of the
longswords he never reached a critical mass where you can just dive
I got a night out too for the scorps now.
Night out.
You could kind of work him down, but it's only one night.
Buying so much time to the costume.
We can close the gap now.
Great micro from Uthera wall.
Just kind of bait the longsuits away and the scorpions.
Yeah, they're firing, but they got nothing.
Dude, this is pristine micro from Uthera wall.
Continuous debate the night around.
Look at this guy. He's cooking.
This is absolutely insane.
What an evenly matched fight.
This is going to distance the series.
For sure, Captain Lance.
That's the problem right there.
Oh, I love Captain Lance. There's one more arena in him.
This is fantastic, because I want to see Uthermal push to the limits.
I don't want to see Uthermal win another Arabian game.
I want to see him try to win an arena game.
That's going to be a tough test for him, though, but Captain Lance...
I mean, he could just resign here. He doesn't need to, like, hard fight this game.
He's got his home map behind this.
Uthermal's actually the guy that's in trouble still, despite winning this game.
Oh hold on that he's actually still trying though look at this. Hold on attempts
What do we have here? Random treasures as well? Yeah some gold.
Little carrying attributes. This guy's got some food killer family.
Six food on her. Of course you spot the food villager. Bro. That's crazy
what I got. You guys really think... Bro this is crazy. I'm just saying.
She got 6 food, it's hardly anything, like that's not even a snack.
I know, that's what I'm saying, I'm starting to fag.
And you were on it like that.
I just saw gold mines.
Forward cast from both players, by the way, each of them is going forward cast, there's
got a ton of army, meanwhile Capilat is taking the hill with a Hail Mary play, a forward
cast from him, looking to just try to switch the tide of the game.
I don't know what this is going to accomplish, but it's pretty good actually.
It's pretty damn good.
Yeah, I forgot to notice yet.
You didn't even see it.
Your thermo's locked in.
Keep it out of webcast.
That rock is protecting the villagers.
Look at the terrain pathing.
Yeah, those rocks are going to be annoying.
Launchers killing some villagers, but the knights will go back, scroopings go down.
The castle will go up here, your thermo is virtually completely won this game now.
Catalan has considered a defensive castle, canceled it, had to buy the stone again,
and he's going to do another defensive castle a little further back.
So trying to make use of this forward castle, you thermal, still hasn't spotted it.
Keep an eye on his webcam to see if he reacts to this.
Another...
I'm trying to go to the stone!
Oh my, shameless!
Look at this!
Shameless!
He doesn't see the town center!
There's one stone!
These are working condition things.
These are proper working conditions.
This is not funny.
Guys, if you ever complain about your 9 to 5, just know that you're not going
to get a job.
I'm not going to get a job.
Guys, if you ever complain about your 9-5, just know that Captain Lance has villagers whose job it is to mind stone under the enemy's town sitter.
It's a very dangerous job, and not one that I'd recommend, but listen guys, you thermal, in a commanding position there's no army on the field for Lance.
He's got zero military, he just has villagers working dangerous jobs.
It's a GG!
You thermal equalizes to the 2-2 fantastic game. Sick.
That was a really impressive game play by e-thermal there, just held on early game.
But I'm still feeling like Captain Man's, you know, he mustn't have played this match
up too many times or like the Romans too many times because he went for the early investment
but did not get the payoff they needed.
I will say as well, like that shows the strengths and weaknesses of playing a bunch
of different styles.
So like Captain Man's unpredictable, he's got a wide variety of strategies that
they can bring to the table, but we have a direct comparison.
Like, Wagas Romans will play to a much higher level
than what Captain Lance brought in this Romans game.
He was late with his men of arms.
He prioritized defense when he should have been off
with the men of arms right away, attacking his opponents.
He didn't have the best mid-game transitions.
And it just didn't look like the Romans
that were seeing dominating this event so far.
So Props to Uthermal as well.
Uthermal played a fantastic game, had good pressure,
had a good strategy and good transitions.
really nothing we're missing from the thermal in this game and he earns the
win but Tamlans got the home epic now and that's a big deal to take us back to
arena it's arena it's arena again it's gonna it's gonna be arena for sure cuz
arena is really fun when you're not playing it it's actually very fun to
watch cuz you know that there will be you know somebody's gonna be surprised
and there will be some crazy stuff happening you don't know who you don't
where it's always some bullshit I'm gonna go and say that I hated to read in the
past but with more understanding of the map I actually really like it I think
it's quite fun it has some BS elements to it so I can understand what you guys
are saying but I think the more you play it the more fun it is actually
which helps in the timings like the up timings you can kind of tell like when
someone's up at 19 or 23 or whatever yeah it tells a lot in these kind of
maps but yeah when you don't know anything it's going to get a car
fuck castle drop fuck mongsy again socks date which non naval map would you say
it's the most complicated to play era like no ocean map yeah it was the
hardest map to play or like most you know most complex to process when you
play it I would say it's a good one where there's nothing for nothing yeah
Actually, that map is pretty hard.
Let me think, let me think, that's a good one.
Affarin 3 has water to be fair.
I think probably some kind of tournament map that we've never seen before, actually.
Probably some tournament map we've never seen before is really hard.
I can't really think of what I thought about.
If I think of like a standard map,
maybe something like Golden Pit is actually quite hard to play,
hard to play because Golden Pip is not like, there's a lot of gold in the center but it's
downhill so you can't just rush into it right away like you can in gold rush that has the
gold on a hill. So I would say something like golden hill is really hard to play in my
opinion. Yeah. That's probably the hardest.
Pip sounds nicer because then there's at least a downside to going in there and
taking it right? If it's already a hill it's nice to hold it.
Did the squirt go down?
Alright, should end for the next game.
Sorry, I was just doing some admin work.
Oh man this is sweaty for both the players now though.
They both know what the other is capable of and now it comes down to just one game.
It's the battle of these two glorious beards.
So the front comes down to the lower bracket.
They both had a little break.
Also is Captain Lance playing like in the silent room?
Why is everything so white and grey in his room?
What's going on there?
You almost got like a backdrop, but damn, you turn them all...
Sorry, I can't land with no window, everything's white, like...
So you can focus, lock in, no distractions. You can't look at anything.
No motivational poster, it's just a wall.
That's the average Path of Exile player, by the way.
Just sitting at a freaking mental asylum playing the game 12 hours straight.
Log in.
Guys, you'll want to talk, yeah, but my room is not like a bedsheet.
bedsheet. This is like, I have a beautiful view from a nice apartment. This is like,
I have a good space here. Just you guys obviously see this, but yeah. Wait, what's this login?
Login? There's Pee Weed. It always drags you back in as login. Yeah. I think he played
it quite a bit. All right, hop in in here. No drop. Excellent stuff, guys. Hop in
right into the last and final game here between Captain Lance and Uthermal 2-2 on the score.
It's the first set of the best of fives that has won the distance.
Of course, earlier we had Sing Sing Waga, 3-1 for Waga.
Here we have 2-2 on Arena, the home map of Captain Lance and Sing Sing talking to this
Inca pick.
We see the Uthermal going Bohemians and Uthermal wants to see the texture here.
He doesn't know what the Incas.
A little bit of applause to check that out.
But Sing Sing, what about this Incas is very appealing on Arena?
Tell me.
I have no idea dudes. I played Inka on Arabia and I didn't even win that much with it
I lost almost every fucking game. In fact, I lost like my last six out of eight or something
What the fuck is good about this if you tell me about the pro here?
Yeah, let me let me take a swing. Let me take a swing. I got this one coach.
Why are you going for it?
Hear me out here. Hear me out.
Actually, they might be good on arena because they have this bonus when they go later in the ages, right?
Where stuff becomes cheaper and cheaper. They filter unit cost reduction
So if you do make it to castle or even imperial age you get up to like a 30% cost reduction for your units
So you could make like really big armies for cheap and maybe win a war of attrition more easily
Well, is that the way you place?
Yeah
Captain Lance, it's like some bullshit coming out, right?
Yeah, I don't say that like Captain Lance has not played an honest to God boom game
It's always like some fast imp some forward castle some bullshit as since he was saying
I don't know if we're gonna see this like boom into late game spam
We could see it and honestly you're totally right waga in case having cheaper units like halb scrum spam all day
I will say though. I don't know if you want to boomers bohemians
Let's talk about bohemians first one of the best civilizations on on arena
I consider it the number one pick in pro meta at least it has a fantastic late games got good economy
It has good options as far as pushing in the early and mid game
And it can do so many different strategies that are all equally as powerful and so the Bohemians are a very very powerful threat on arena
Incase I'm not really sure how that can match up against the Bohemians
I really don't see any option that stands out as oh, this is really good
But I think a tower rush could actually be the way to open up the game for Captain Lance
That's true actually I looked through a tech tree here and I can confirm this it's gonna be some bullshit coming in again
There's no way you go late game against the Bohemians, right? Yeah, they have everything
What do you have as bullshit options I think us because I don't say anything except for like priests maybe you can get
Good priests in this you get no, but the priests are better for behemoths
I think if we're talking about some kind of cheese some kind of rush
I think a tower rush with cheaper towers is legit. That's pretty solid
I think maybe a forward castle what you get on a discount is also decent the Camayook Camayook Ram could be very solid
They have an infantry unique unit called the Camayook
We'll talk more about that later, but it is an option if it goes for it
I will talk about why that could be a strong option
You also get nice economy with the settlements of the settlements is going to be gathering wood and gold from one building
This is the new DLC or it's not a DLC said but it's a new patch for Incas given an access to the settlement
So those guys are quite strong for the early game economy
You have some off you got a nice settlement too, right?
You got the wood mine with the gold so that this is like very snug this wall in there
You won't have to replace this anytime soon
Yeah, and like it's kind of it's kind of a little lucky because sometimes like for example if you take a look at okay
I think you throw most base. There's a decent settlement here, but it's not a great settlement
Same thing here decent one on like wooden gold. That's not great
Here you got the lucky like in middle of the wood line and middle of the gold with a settlement
That's a very very good settlement very very fortunate for Captain Lanster not a huge deal
But it is nice for his early game economy
except for the berries, they don't get anything
yeah berries has gotten nothing close unfortunately for himself
just talking about the regular dark age stuff
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a little bit of a double dealer actually if we be thermal
you don't need to commit to that right now
you can just learn one gear at a time
Getting the food so far it's kind of hard to read if either player wants to do something like too specific for me
This all looks just like the standard opening that you do
All right, if thermal here is just going about the regular opening learning and some deer
Chillin about and nothing strange coming out of a thermal. I think strange comes out of Captain Lance
We're kind of almost expecting him to do something strange
It's not going to be a tower rush, I think we're already past that time. I think tower rush will not happen
He's keeping the llama alive. It's the leader leader of the herd in the back there
But yeah, we're not seeing any rock maxing. There's no chicken and where is this?
Where is this boy going? How you just know it?
That that's so sauce the moment you see one guy with a pickaxe walk towards the stone
Yeah, he's gonna go the stone. I think maybe a four castle again. We'll talk a bit more about that
So let me just go ahead and fix the cameras here for us.
Yeah, I mean, most likely it feels
like the castle drop is interesting
because I haven't seen the Inca unique units in any game
that I've played, I think.
It does seem quite cool, though.
It's an increased attack range infantry unit.
So having that extra range can maybe
allow them to be really nasty in rams.
Like you said earlier, you can hop out and be
able to slam stuff.
They do get access to seed tramps as well in late game as I see if they do hit imp
You get the and see Trump is so much better than the capital or battering round
Yes, Incas here with the castle drop strategy. It's gonna be cameo ukes
For captain lance cameo uke is a unique unit that has that one extra range kind of like a step lancer
So you attack you can restack that unit up with that one extra range feeling massive DPS
It's quite cheap and easy to spam as well and captain lance
is likely to go for a forward castle again the same way he did in the last game.
I wonder if you thermal though after seeing that last game on arena with the Malay
I wonder if he's expecting the forward castle and if he's gonna have a better preparation against it last time
He seems a little clueless as far as how to defend it. Let's see if this time he's gonna be a little bit more prepared
So far no, you know adaptations nothing out of the ordinary besides maybe a double lumber camp instead of one
But that's not really a huge deal
I do hope that he, you know, maybe makes a play to control the relics or, you know, be on the field a bit more because what we saw earlier was him conceding a lot of the mid control.
And then he got caught by surprise. So we'll see how it goes. I feel like that's always the perhaps most tragic situation to be in in a competitive game of a we like this is where you're just underprepared.
the military don't have the production buildings I never feel as bad if I miss micro or if I screw up
my own build order you know that's on me but if I just don't have anything I feel like I didn't even
play yeah absolutely and that's the big part about this tournament as well like we put in a bunch of
streamers with no preparation you're like three weeks to try to come up with as much as you
can and your thermal here uh I think a little clue this is in case you have to read the
tech tree not quite sure what is the point it could go for not quite sure what the options are
So it's my makes it really interesting boom was coming in Omega loom
Not gonna be the case here for Captain Lance at least and he's gonna be preparing for that forward castle
Sinsing what do you make of the situation for castle main cause exciting strategy? I
Don't know. I'm not sure what you're supposed to get out of this as ink us
like
The unique unit is not bad. Good. It's it's like little arches or something. Yeah. Yeah
I just really see like something that's very specific to Inca that ties this
together. Yeah I actually agree with you by the way I think Inca's is just like a
decent stuff to do this. I don't think the cameo is like an S tier infantry
unit. I think like even the Japanese do it better with the samurai. I think if
anything maybe it's a surprise factor that Captain Lance wanted. If you went
for Japanese you feel almost already thinking okay we've seen the samurai
whereas the Inca's is just something that's not been seen before. Hold on
going a little early here yeah he's does one and a half minute on this just
don't take that long to get across but just give him a little bit of time to
maybe plop down some you know production maybe you'll get a siege workshop coming
in as well quickly when we do go into the castle now by the way there's
something that is worth noting about Incas this infantry upgrade will help in
castlage for his villagers so it doesn't help right now but Incas have
a bonus that in Castle Age the infantry armor upgrades affect their villagers.
So Captain Luntz going forward with that armor early, that's a decisive idea or like a intentional
idea to have that extra armor affect the villagers.
Very very useful in the fights against the scouts in the early game.
So keep that in mind as you see a forward settlement as well.
Okay.
He's going for the efficiency settlement, getting the stone and the gold here.
It's too good to pass up on, it's a melee cantor assist.
The middle of the golden stone settlement, they say take a little gold while waiting for the castle. Castle drop right away, beautiful timing, holy.
And your thermal has the scouts, is it enough to stop it though? Doesn't kill the champion, brings the scouts back? But look at that, wall off from Captain Lance, he knows what he's doing, and the scouts from your thermal are going to be completely useless, wow.
That's costy as well. Now he did commit for the scouts, but still didn't catch the villagers coming in.
So now you just feel like you're down that little bit of extra food.
By the time he is clicked, so 40 seconds he will have his own castle timing.
Problem is, he doesn't have any stone to just plop down a defensive castle.
So she really should be looking towards what? The siege workshop to defend this?
Yeah, I think you need to go for a siege workshop.
right away. Walls, he's workshop behind. Don't let the rams come through. Don't let
that second castle come in because this castle will break the walls, but it
doesn't kill you. It's the second castle that kills you. It's the fast temple that
kills you. So you got the scouts. You can prevent your opponent from taking the
relics. These scouts are not useless. Don't think that, okay, you thermal made
the investment to scouts. You can't use them. You can still use them to
deny the relics, which is of course some of the captain lines is going for
right now. It could be a nice help and the thermal add in a town center
right away. Remember, this castle forward is a big investment. So your thermals got more
risk collected and didn't have to commit to that castle. He's in a good position. Should
he not take too much damage?
Yeah, he's staying calm and collected, not stressing the siege workshop that hard. Maybe,
you know, like I would want one as soon as possible. But he's saying he has time to
get this TC down and doubling his villager production is a good way to make sure that
he doesn't, that he hasn't out basically in this game.
Yeah, Kamiyuk's on the field, breaking through this wall.
Wait, I take it back. Maybe this is the slot. Instead of having Spearman, you're fucking Kamiyuk with monks, so they can just snipe them with Cav.
Yeah, they're very good. Like, Cav will not work. But keep in mind, Cav is not the counter to this anyway. We need to see his workshop.
He said try for an archery range in the workshop. Okay, workshop is the key, the secret to this puzzle.
Can we be quite strong here? With that extra range they can stack up on walls to hide DPS
Stabbing across the wall
Wow! Captain Ladd with the knowledge!
That's insane!
You can't repair it, you have to...
Attack the wall exactly
This one is a S.I.V.E.
It's the S.I.V.E. It counters the sticks in the middle
Cross with defense from the thermal, not going for the Henkin and N.E.R.
that you do have access to in castage of the Bohemians
Of course, that would require chemistry, maybe he decided not to wait for it.
Or maybe he just doesn't know his sift too well, but either way, Ythron was on a very
back foot.
People considered him the second best player of the tournament, but Captain Lance is showing
his quality.
The second castle forward, it's the same strategy we saw last game.
Captain Lance with the repeat, this time with Inca's forward castle here.
And Ythron will...
What did we learn?
The Magnus late.
Swagger, you did talk about a TC first, Siege workshop was late.
This could be the reason why he loses again, the late workshop.
a little bit closer this time than last time I think though last game we were in the same
spot actually or last arena game but oh I think his manganese can be too late right villagers
get out of the way you're blocking yesterday he can reach it but last time he pushed it out
last time he pushed it out you need to go for the villagers there we go nice little hit there
on the camp you throw them whose boss but now the villagers are giving me the target you can
go close here you can go close you still got time it's a 76 oh yeah he's deleting this time
He's deleting?
They're splitting though.
He can kill all of them.
He's gonna split them out.
Oh wow.
That's crazy.
Dude, Lance is a freaking beast, bro.
Just thought it was the magnet that makes it look easy.
You thermal kill another vill, but now there's actually a hole.
There's a hole, there's a hole, there's a hole.
Oh, he could just garrison them to help out.
Yeah, if he wants to.
We're not sure if he realizes, but...
Yeah, probably doesn't see it.
I mean, taking down a production building also feels good.
He can also open the Palisade very easily.
Scott's in the back?
Well, snap him off.
Dude, you have to be pretty happy about that for your thermal.
Listen, he's still 10 villagers, by the way.
This game is not over.
Your thermal's got the lead.
It's just Camuyuk.
It's an infantry unit.
Let's simplify the game.
It's an infantry unit.
We have our walls.
You have our crossbows.
In theory here, your thermal wins.
Hey, you're so good.
We don't have loom.
Oh, my freaking god.
We don't have loom.
The Camuyuks are coming in.
There's no loom. Omega loom.
Villager goes down. There was no time to get loom.
There was no time to get loom.
What do you mean wow, there's no time to get loom?
You're about to make me mad, bro.
That's crazy. Losing so many villagers.
Look at the villager dying in four shots.
How many hits would it be for a Kamiya to kill the villager with loom?
It's four hits without.
It's double because they have armor and extra.
Yeah, it's eight hits.
So he lose like half the villager he lost and you'd have more time to pull them back.
It's a crazy upgrade. Oh quick wall quick wall. You need this quick wall
You can get some nice shots
He killed his own magnet
There's no garrison you did get one nice shot though
It's not bad. He loses the three Magnos, which is horrible, but he will kill the cameos here actual cinema gameplay
It's not terrible. It's horrible, but it's not terrible
Hey, he cleans it out. He's still producing he's got the military production coming in good micro and good micro
This is still fine. He's up 12 bills, dude. Honestly, it's not even that bad
But captain Lance might just cheese the fast in behind us. He might just use the fast
Maybe another castle he's gonna castle keep on them. Yeah, it's gonna be easy this time though next time
Yeah, like something like here, maybe even here to deny the gold?
Oh, oh, oh, oh, he wants it, he wants it, he wants it, he wants it, he wants it, he wants it.
He wants to grab it.
Holy.
He's almost got a lot of rest left.
This is what we did in the previous Arena game too.
He forced basically Thermal to be the one making the progressive move, you know?
Yeah.
If you go for Imp, then you Thermal has to attack somehow, and that's not easy to do from this position.
The thing is, he's almost played against us before.
He knows imp could be coming and he knows what he needs to do
Overall, which is to give up space boom towards the back when we saw last game and then try to defend somehow
It's easier said than done though. Just to get close to the manual castles there to defend
I don't know. So you can't tell the stables
You but yeah, I held the table the stables of course, but actually we don't have that much space back here
Maybe just go outside honestly to eat some walls go outside
He's staying active though, those crossbows are getting out there realizing there's not
too much to do at home, so I like this move.
He's trying to find out whatever he can on the back of this.
Maybe he can snipe a monk going for a relic pick or something.
Yeah, something like that could be interesting.
There's one more monk, one more relic to be brought back in.
Four relics are already in here.
By the way, there's some really insane games on YouTube.
I obviously don't have a link or anything, but I've been in this situation where
I'm on the back foot versus the fast then, and I was able to make a nice comeback
win happen by just expanding off to the sides and just buying a lot of time so
Ethan was not dead it is they said up to do some things that are unorthodox and
I'm not sure if somebody would figure that out but it is cool to know that it
could be done here and that's a little three-cam you pick up there while it just
has to figure out the piece of the puzzle that would kind of solve the
situation for him one minute to imp and I like this harass for me thermal
this is looking better than the last game for sure at least yeah this is
nice getting activity with the crossbows you mentioning earlier how it's
actually 50% of the repair cost when you take damage on a manganelle that was
pretty costly just the two cameo ukes getting the manganelle down to 30% HP
yes that's not as good as killing it but it feels pretty nice for him anyway
yeah you are getting some kind of a trade for it monk she's burning crossbows
as well which is not something you see every day but cat lances making it
work here and it gets both crossways get patching up to use you just heal it up
a little bit of healing come like I couldn't get any worse no emphasis here
you thermal must be choking right now like dude big gulp emphasis here but you
throw has got a lot of resources got 30 extra villagers honestly if I had a
play from here I think you throw was a better position in theory honestly
he didn't have to not change it no way yeah he does I promise he does the
The two trebuchets will kill a lot of things, right?
But, if you just go to the back.
No, not stables!
It's the Helm's deep stables!
It's always stables, bro!
It's always stables for you, Theramal.
He doesn't do the roll at some point.
Bro, could he?
I can't even have some workspace.
No, no, no.
It doesn't matter.
You lose your tre-
Okay, first of all,
the trebs are only safe near the castle.
So you just lose all of this,
which I know looks like a lot and it is.
So if you just back up here and get the imp,
you have cannons.
So he must have cannons in his dome so he can push back out with bombards in like 5 minutes.
It can be done.
But he's thinking in a lot of his resources in the stables.
Dude, for your thermal in this game is like crossbows and knights.
In Starcraft, is there only 2 units?
He's all of his crossbow, knights, nothing else.
What you need here is like cannons, you know, buying some time, go for the hand cannon
here.
You need some, a little bit after the box thinking and you think I'm just not
the guy for it.
I'm saying he's speaking Greek right now I don't understand these units they's
talking about.
You need different types of units.
Well you lost to a one unit spammer so you don't care.
I did but I dropped by one unit like that in the tournament.
Yeah, you went that horribly. You had like a few good styles but
you were kind of like a calf spammer, I think.
Calf archer, calf spammer.
Yeah, at the end of the day everyone's just a spammer slash one chick slash cheese in someone else like oh
We haven't emailed for that hair a treb in the chat if you're a subscriber a little basketball action there for the trebuchet
Knocking down the magnet pretty costly and these monks are getting some insane conversions on the cosmos
Are you thermos defending for now?
He's up 30 villagers still is bring up a lot of nights. Don't show the nights or show them and go for the trebs
Oh, okay. This is a big pushback. He's going in. He needs to kill all the trebuchets
He's dodging the arrow fire with the crossbows. Oh
well
Stepping the monk step in the box taking them out
To convertions though
It's fine 16 cents fine. It's not fine. No, no, this is fine with the houses on fire
Yeah, exactly. So this is fine
Oh, I don't know he gave it one more. He's got he's got three nights now
No, it's Gigi. Oh my goodness captain Lance has took out you thermal from the upper bracket Gigi in the chat
What a freaking banger series captain Lance has showed himself as a force to be reckoned with but again
It's not just the knowledge that he's got he's also executing it very well
He's keeping up with the micro in the macro be thermal and you thermal
I honestly don't feel like he played bad at all
He had a great series
He just got kind of knowledge checked a little bit and he got put in uncomfortable positions on arena and fortress and
I think he's gonna be kicking himself. He's gotta he's gotta get better on those maps if he wants to win this tournament
Damn, what is that?
Why I mean I could wish for
Yeah, that was a fantastic best of five series right there
We saw a lot of really nice plays by thermal and like understanding how to put pressure and like he showed
They can work wonders with those crossbows as well, but captain lands at the end of the day
It feels like he's a little bit more prepared. Just strategy-wise
Like this big advantage on the arena map. Yeah. Yeah, it's just again
It's a three map tournament right first map fortified register fortress, excuse me
And then after that Arabia or arena and for those complaining about arena being boring
It's either it's just Arabia or it's Arabia and a bit of arena
I think it's a good mix and I think it shows that you can play a couple of different styles
You don't just have to play that Arabia aggressive style in the opening
so I like having that mix and
Captain Lance showing that you know, he's got some good skills on arena something to watch out for but you throw them all on both
Both the rabies and I think he's still in a good spot to win this tournament
He just has to make a loser bracket run and see if you make that happen
But yo waga sing sing. Thanks for being with me on the cast you guys have been fantastic and
It was great
Yeah, it was a lot of fun to be on here and you know like we got to watch a really amazing series these players are so impressive honestly so
Thank you for having us
Thank you guys any last words you want to say for the chat before we move on to the next step
No, just good luck to waga. Good luck further man. That's all for me. Thank you man. I'll do my best
All right, thanks. Thank you both and we'll see you guys later
Gds adalma
Alright, that was a fantastic cast from Uthermal, sorry not from Uthermal from Wagamama and Mr. Singsing.
Alright guys, we're heading on to the next part of the tournament here, the next match of the tournament.
But we're going to take a little break, just a 5 minute break probably or a 3 minute break, just to get a bit of rest.
We've been going for 6 hours and a half strong and I'm not going to lie, I've had that stress of the admin decisions as well with the Atrock match.
match so I'm feeling a little overwhelmed right now but I just want to say the
support from the chat has been amazing. The viewership is off the charts as always.
Thank you all for being here, thanks for all the subs and support, all the bits and
whatnot. Catmillans with a great result over the Thermal. Catmillans the first
player in the upper bracket final. Up next we're going to have Grubby
versus Pig most likely and that's going to be the second spot in the
upper bracket final. The Thermal versus Vaga will be the loser bracket match
up there. Singsing with the raid. Thank you so much to Singsing. Really really
appreciate what you brought to the event Singsing. Thanks for casting with me.
Thanks for the raid. Welcome to Singsing's viewers. Guys Dota 2 has been made proud
today. Of course it was a Dota 2 civil war between Waga and Singsing but Waga
proved to be the better Dota 2 player or at least the better Dota 2
player on A2 at least for the day and he advanced. He's facing you
thermal so all of Singsing fans will cheer for Waga and we'll see what
you can do against you thermal one of the favorites of the entire event Knoff takes the admin win against Hrock
There's a bit of a no-show action. Unfortunately Hrock stayed till 4 a.m. Last night just practicing hard preparing for the event
He had the helmet on but he overslapped he misses the alarm by 10 minutes or so maybe a bit more maybe 30 minutes and
Knoff will get the admin win there and it's all good
We cleared it up and Knoff will be waiting for the loser between grubby and pig
which is up next. So give us five minutes break and then we're going to
present to you the next match and we'll show the next cast as well. So take
care and I'll be right back. And make sure to follow the stream if you guys are new here be.
you
I'm saying that to myself because I'm back and we have you guys coming in. We have two
casters coming in with me right now. We got Dash and Dave, D and D. What's going on,
guys?
Yo, what's up, man?
What is going on? Listen, guys, I don't know if you guys have been following the term
It's been banger after banger and we're in for possibly one of the best match to the tournament grubby versus pig
How you guys doing and how do you guys feel about this matchup coming up?
Doing really well actually we were just in that other channel
So we began talking about the tournament a little bit
You know from from our perspectives, but I mean the tournament is delivered in
Every imaginable way as I would have expected it to but we were I was just about to say to him like Lance's performance
has been so impressive taking out tournament favorites.
I think it's interesting because he's
one of the players who's been most willing to go
for very different strategies, or at least utilize
the uniqueness of different SIVs,
where it feels like a lot of the favorites, quote unquote,
favorites in the tournament, or the people who are high elo,
they specialize in one thing.
They got really good at doing one thing,
but it does make them somewhat one-dimensional.
Yeah, spot on analysis.
That's the same for me.
Like Captain Lance does have the advantage
of having played more games.
He's got a lot more knowledge, but also it's pretty good at the micro-macro stuff as well, in his own right.
Grubby, though, for me, feels like another guy that, while not having played as much as Captain Lance, has played a good amount himself,
has got a lot of knowledge. Pig has accumulated a ton of knowledge in those late-night streams.
I'm curious, Dave, it's kind of your time zone as well. Did you catch much of Pig's streams since you've been playing a lot in the late-nights?
I think pig has been like the least viewed person for me, which is exciting because I get to see him here for like the second time
I've been watching tofu. I've been watching Lance's had some real grindy streams like some nine hour or ten hour streams
Yeah, just grinding away and you could see it man, and of course I've been watching grubby as well
I mean grubby. He's come so far from when he used to
Use to play a we two when you're coaching him like months ago. Yeah and T90 was getting on with him as well
It was a grubby that was sitting at like 1100 or 1200 he didn't really understand the game and now
He's up to what?
1850 he got to was super impressive and knocking on the doors of 1900 and of course grubby's history with a way to goes way back
Like if you go even further back in that day, but three four years ago
He was like a coaching session with Viper
But that was like really really baby grubby when it comes to a with you would just take in his baby steps
Figuring out what units are doing now. He's all grown up almost 1900 a bit lower though in terms of peak illo
Been practicing on the ranked ladder may be losing some games
But still a very stock very strong player possibly the favorite for the entire tournament guys grubby versus pig
The first match up here is red is that fortress Malay for grubby and we got the Portuguese for pig now
There is a strategy want to talk about here that we've seen earlier from mr.
Llama is actually a repeat matchup so pick it have some PTSD right now
Malay on this map went for mr. Lamma went for carambits and rams six of those rams filled with carambits
Went for an all-in broke through the wall and destroyed pigs base now pig died to that will he fall for it again?
I'm not really sure but it's he's got to think about that a little bit. I
Don't think grubby's going for a strat like that
I think grubby will go for like a fast in type of forward castle deal here
It doesn't seem like like the caram bit play. I guess we could do play on words there
doesn't seem like the most consistent strat if you're the favorite coming in.
It's probably better to just, you know, get a decent eco, maybe two or three TC,
and then forward cast them, try break them in Imperial H.
Because Portuguese in late game against Malay is disaster for Malay, right?
Like Portuguese should be able to slaughter them.
Yeah, Portuguese definitely would be stronger in play.
Dash, I want to get your experience in Age of Empires.
You've been around the scene for a long time.
Have you played Age of Empires?
You know what kind of you leave been hitting and are you enjoying to just hop into a cast here?
But you got a lot of knowledge you've been casting over the years as well
Yeah, I mean not I've played this game since I was a child
But I got reintroduced to a way back in like 2016
I want to say when I rediscovered it on twitch boobly days
You know figured out how to download that crazy client and started playing and and then somehow, you know got involved with
T90 and and Dave for some cast and whatnot and yeah, I make my you know, I appear every once in a while my
Elo hubbers in that 1,300 to 1,400
Area, so I'd be like mid-pack maybe you know in this group of players
But of course I've been playing on and off for like 20 years and a lot of these guys been playing for a few weeks
So yeah, I'm impressed to see still bad bro still bad
But it's just like I am so awful compared to these guys
But it has been so unmotivating to watch a number of them get better.
So I actually did play just a few 1v1s. I mostly play team games.
It's kind of my relax at the end of the night. I play team games with a glass of wine in hand.
And those can be very wild.
Yeah, it's a super chill atmosphere, a lot of crazy stuff in those team games.
But no, it's good to see you here for the cast.
I just want to show the viewers here that most people here know you for your League days.
days of course you're not casting some chests but you're actually an og for age
vampires too as well which is absolutely fantastic so really happy to have both of
you guys here Malay versus Portuguese nothing too suspicious happening in the
early game Malay up a little faster to the feudal age and that's just due to
their civilization bonus Portuguese do get some extra wood from the berries
we're seeing some standard stuff so far but we only see crazy stuff happen in
the castle age on this map and nothing really can be done in feudal age
because you have the walls and you have the castle but I want to take
attention to the king if this king dies you lose the game we've seen a record
number of king slips in this tournament like an unbelievable amount of king
slip you can see in a king march forward to the center of the map and die in
combat Dave I think you've seen that as well and just such amazing moments from
this king I love the fact that we have a registered fortress game one and we're
about to see what goes what goes on as passage rolls around well I think the
most famous one I don't know if were you there at that tournament was one
One of the NACs where Yo ripped his king right into the castle of, was it MBL?
I can't remember.
But it was within like a minute and a half.
It wasn't on this map.
It was on Copenhagen.
But very similar start.
And then I went out with a smoke break or with Yo for a smoke break afterwards and his
hands were shaking bro.
He was so demoralized and then for the next two years I don't know if you remember
it here.
He'd keep his king inside of his base like he wouldn't even leave.
He doesn't scout with it at all.
In pro play, you scout with the king early, and it's normally safe, but if you run into the castle it could cause some very traumatic experiences, and yo, definitely learn this lesson.
In this tournament, we actually saw the spiffing Brit in his first competitive match run his king into the castle as well, so that was a horrible start to the spiffing Brit's career.
But it looks like it's not going to be anything too suspicious. It's going to be a boom from both sides.
So, you know kind of called it here on the casting on the casting roster
No ram rush for grubby this confident to just play a straight-up game against pig
Pig is likely to go for a 4tc play and he's gonna go for a massive boom with the Portuguese
What's gonna plays out for him?
So grubby does go forward
With the castle like I suspect you will like maybe two or three tc play
What sort of options does pig have against that if he's like really off on the timing if he's going for 4tc
going to be a lot later to him. How do you approach dealing with that if you're in pigs position?
Yeah, generally speaking, I think if you're going to go for the 4TC boom, you're going to
acknowledge the risk of giving up the map. If you take a look at this nasty hill, if Grubby gets here
and like you said, Dave is trepid with that fast, and this castle will die, the wall will be opened
up, I think the best thing you can do is honestly just give ground. The 4TC boom,
you give ground, you have a much better economy, and then you try to push it back
with that much better economy and the stronger Portuguese late game. However, it's very hard
to make that call and we've seen players try to fight into the hill and just flat out lose the
game early. Like, that's been a common theme here. So, as you can see, Grubby accelerated a melee
start, 3PC already set up with a monastery, no Karambits. Oh, no, a couple Karambits coming out.
I think he just wants to get the relics. Relics is the name of the game for him.
He is such a, you know, I mean, being a pro player himself, like he is so, his mindset is so much about like what would essentially be the pro approach to a game.
Yes.
So that's where I see him looking to play exactly towards the relics. We already have the first monk out onto the field.
He's guarding a number of them as is. I think the only one he won't get maybe is far left side near the TC that Pig is placing.
Yeah, I think you just called him greedy dash.
He wants to play like a pro. He wants to play like a hero, right?
Grubby is one of the greediest players in this tournament, dude. 100%.
It goes back to our conversation about being the favorite. And I mean, Aero, you could probably speak...
You and I know you can speak to this directly. Like, when you're the favorite, you know,
or when you are better than your opponent, you can and typically will try to get away with some things
that maybe you wouldn't against somebody that is at equal skill, you know.
And so if he believes he's the favorite in this situation,
Situation then yeah, he's gonna just look to take those incremental advantages and force you to beat him as opposed to him needing to necessarily do anything wild
Yeah, I hundred percent agree with that like when you're the underdog
You can take a lot more risks because the Sanchez are you gonna go
You know you're gonna be behind in the set if you play like a hundred sets you might lose like 70 of them
You might have like a 30% win rates as the underdog
So you're more likely to take risks whereas the favorite wants to play consistent and here the consistent way to play is a little bit
military, take the relic, secure some of the late game, but Pick has already sniped a monk.
And so like Grubby's greed of making very few Karambas trying to take these monks already
kind of punished and take a look at these organs, man, he just knocked out the Karamban's
teeth.
The big investment into the organs early though, if you're going for TC, true, like
he's going to struggle to get the food eco set up, he's going to struggle to
produce from all four of these CCs right now.
Two town centers producing finally buy some food.
So he's going to balance that out.
It looks it actually looks pretty good for big. Yeah, it's okay though
But he will run into some troubles so you definitely read about that Dave like normally looking at six farms from TC to stabilize
So three TCS 18 farms right now. We have for TC and we're just hitting 18 farms
So there's gonna be some idle TC time for sure on pigs position and grubby with that natural accelerated boom
Had a nice six village lead and it will be picking up the relics slowly despite a little bit of a you know
Hick up on that first relic actually pigs doing a great job of guarding these relics
I actually love that. It's kind of adapted into countering Grubby's style.
Grubby's desperately looking for another rally, taking the long way around to play it safe.
Still a nice solid eco for Grubby though. Look at the farms coming down.
It's one thing I'm really impressed with Grubby.
Uthermal, Death Note as well. Even though he had a lower elo, he was so good at getting the farms up on time.
The macro for some of these guys is really solid. That's just experience.
Funner games, Death Note's boom might be the best boom out of all these places.
It is! No dude, it is!
Like the guy is constantly at 95 farms. It's insane. It's like watching you or something.
It's just, you know, a little bit lacking on the full-
This is pressure-side for him.
It's funny because he gets like 160 builds and then only now he just starts thinking about army.
Not even preparing it, just starts thinking about it.
And he just skywalks. We saw Death Note at 182 builds.
And he lost that game, needless to say, due to lack of military.
Which was hilarious, but it's actually good character. I love death note and what he's brought to the tournament
But dash what do you make of the situation here? It's gonna be a few relics for grubby
But it's kind of balance like pig is also guarding some relics who probably get a couple himself as time goes on
Yeah, it's not too bad balance. I mean, this is where I would quit
I would question how early the monastery was dropped for grubby given the fact that he's not now
Necessarily committed to getting the relics. He's just bringing his first relic home
Where as pig on the other side he dropped four TC's now his monastery comes down and the first monks are coming out
So earlier I was talking about the expectation of four relics going to grubby and one the other way and I think they're way more
Contestable at this point. Yeah, and grubby now adding a fourth TC still even in village account
So nobody's too much worse for where will Barrow finally coming in though
So I'm feeling a lot better about grubby's food eco long term
He also got up to this 34 food count a little bit quicker than pig did even though they now have equalized in that regard
So still expecting the faster imperial time for grubby. I think the question is
You know, when is he gonna come forward for that castle that they're expecting just now putting villagers onto stone
We see the village account up to five on stone
So could be a little while till he feels permission to come forward
But what unit is he gonna use to support that see one stable coming down some Malay elephants, maybe
Stables, you're playing. Oh
If he's playing in the late game, he's playing into the death against Portuguese
If Pig has the correct composition, I don't know about playing passive in this matchup if you're grubby
the thing is though
Something that isn't considered ever in pro play really because the skill level is so high and so close
But grubby could just be confident in his superior late game
I consider grubby's late game to be his best quality and if you can just say like okay
Portuguese they game is you know better than Malay, but it's not miles better
It's it's fightable
The advantage that Portuguese get of course is the fact that they get the archibus on the gunpowder
and they also get the discounted gold units, so they have, you know, ballistics on their gunpowder plus cheaper gold units
It's very hard to fight into that as the melee, but if Grubby is a stronger player
He could be happy playing the late game, but here's the thing
I want to talk about this monastery from what Dash pointed out earlier
Because Pig delayed the monastery and still could snacks and relics
He's actually boomed faster and will hit the faster imp in theory unless Grubby can click right now
I don't really understand the stable investment. I actually have no idea why he's mixing a few nights
Maybe to count the organs, but seems a bit over the top
Yeah feels like it's purely a reaction to the organ guns right he saw that his cramits were being dealt with and in an effort to get
These relics he's like okay. I gotta get some kind of cab, but then it's like okay
Just go I don't know maybe a few extra scouts or light cab even as opposed to the the night so that you have both an option to deal with
The the monks and the the organ guns. Yeah, absolutely
Absolutely and stable not gonna be like good for Malay long term. See these nights are only a short term option
But again, not like have some monks could just push them back
This pig know what a fator is great question
He's played a lot of Portuguese I feel like he should and he's also kind of stuck like a student of the game
Like he likes to think about it
He's not just like some Yamato who just takes like a nice a nice one trick strategy and just rolls with it
He likes to think about things and consider different options.
I think yes, but it's a really good question.
I mean, if he's walling himself into the corner like this, and this goes super
late game, there's some excellent opportunities to play.
Spatia is later and then a super powerful Portuguese comp.
But that's a really complicated thing to do.
If you're, if you're new to the game, right balancing the population
space needed for that, plus your villager amount, right?
You don't want to have three fatorias and then a hundred villagers.
You won't have any space for military.
Absolutely it it could get difficult later. That's a question for 30 minutes from now though right now
It's gonna be organ guns some monks archer ranges coming up from our tree ranges. Yeah
Is that a blust or a hank in a near like I think our bus makes the most sense
I would say our would make the most sense because you have the organ guns, but then you're
Flying double range. Are you just committing your castle to trep production?
But you're adding to teach workshops. There's a lot of commitment on wood
I guess he is floating a ton of friends right now behind the way pig is adding in barracks
Which is usually not a good call against Malay because their tabular line isn't the best
But Malay have really cheap elephant that grubby is drawn to and so the barracks from pig is a perfect read on the situation
Grubby's going for the cheap Malay elephants, which are a bit squishy considering their elephants. They have you know missing armor upgrades
But they're very cheap
Counter them if are blessed and you have a habit here. It's a perfect composition for pig
I don't know how he's made that. Oh really crazy. He got it first pig got the relic in the corner first
So he's gonna have to and grubby's gonna have
He'll have three
Wow
I'll have three and grubby love to dude late
Yeah, yeah, that's not worth it for grubby. He could have had a much better boom
invest into the relics only got to he's not too happy about that it's not a
disaster but it is somewhat you know underwhelming for him he's gonna go to
it's coming in it's coming in hot it's coming in hot for the relic rubby wants
that relic he dodges the shots he's dead
Morgan Gunsman dropping more stables he's got six stable commitment now yeah
this is really terrifying I feel like he's just gonna get absolutely bulldozed
with it in composition he's not thinking at all about adding any range
units in at the moment like Malay Arbalas would be able to support against infantry and Arbalas on the our hand cannons as it appears to be on the other side
instead he's just gonna run a slow moving massive
elephants into a
Firing line. Yeah. Yeah, that big that pig is going for is fantastic, right?
Yeah, you play slow with the Portuguese you have the better army if he gets archivist for these hand cannons
They'll have ballistics as well. Yeah, like Robbie will just be feeding units into this
But it's gonna be a guy's it's gonna be a lot of elephants
Eco for pig dude, he just went for two man saw a crop rotation. He's setting up
He's missing hand car, but he's setting up for the late game terms of economy
But dude if grubby just waits and it has like 60 elephants
I don't care if you've got how but you're 60 elephants is a scary army and I love this from grubby take a look at the vision
Let me zoom out here and capture edge grubby sees almost a whole map
And he's done this consistently in his ladder games and in his tournament games
So he knows what's coming and pig is much very much in the dark in comparison. He's only now getting his output. He's got
Grubbys got that Starlink did he's got the whole vision look at this
Satellites in the sky. Oh my god. It's crazy
I think that is one of the biggest advantages or like one of the biggest
kick holdovers from him being a top-level RTS player I see understands so
tremendously like the value of scouting and vision yeah and so he prioritizes it
to a greater degree than anyone else okay castle placement here for pig
directly in the center of the map. When does he see the elephants? This is
excellent for Grubby to hide this for as long as possible. He needs to leave
as well. Okay, Elise coming in a minute 40 on that one. You don't show this until elite in my opinion.
Now, Grubby sees the castle. He might be tempted to go for it, but I think Pig's army is actually
better right now. Here they come. Missing the halbs though. We only have three halbs.
Elephants will be seen. Pig, how does he react to this? Good attack ground to start things off.
He's got halb, but there's only 10. The castle goes up. This is still a difficult push for
Grubby though. I don't, Hera, I don't know if there's enough elephants here. That's a great
What do you think to say?
That is to say, we're 32, like I don't know if there's enough.
Oh, he's gonna go in, he's planning the scourge to transition as you're saying Dash, a good
you know, back line here is much needed.
Grubby's waiting for the upgrade, 30 seconds to his upgrade, I think he's showing his
hand a bit too early though, Pig is looking to fight, he's not scared of the elephants,
he's got the guns firing in the back, Halberdier's to the front, we're missing some Halberdier's
good snap on the trebs though.
Yeah, Barry's still at micro here so far for Pig, with the ranged units, of course
One trip still working away here. So the repairs coming in now we get the elite battle
Health and upgrade. This is the terrifying moment here for pig. Will he be able to keep this castle alive?
Really good timing to leave even if you even if you lose is it
He's already taken so much value like how much value did grubby lose by engaging before that upgrade came in
Tons feels like a lot, right? Yeah. Yeah
Tons of value. He's got the he's got the lead scrim set up
But we're still missing upgrades on the lead scrim a few of them have found the run to the castle
I feel like Pig is playing a lot more solid right now. He's got the archivist tech. His cannons are actually sniping with ballistics now.
This castle might go down, but I feel like Pig has the better army, more population. He's in a great spot.
Yeah, this is kind of a classic desperation move. When the castle is low and you want to finish it off,
he might actually be able to finish it off here, and he does. That'll feel good, but still streamed in.
A few extra battle elephants there at the end that did not need to go down. The remaster needs to happen,
because the momentum isn't actually going to flip the other way.
three bombard cannons coming forward one trip gets sniped another trip about to go
down
well biggest thanks so fast look at how fast is pushing not getting grubby
and is that as the favorite it keeps just going crazy stuff to trevor shades
continues to push forward
grab a shine remastered in a good job of it but he's losing units in the fight
constantly
yeah this is very confident play
from pig I'm extremely impressed right now in grubby
he just seemed a little bit passive he seemed a little bit unsure about this
matchup
It's a difficult one from Leigh.
You gotta take advantage of the timers.
He didn't do that.
And now Pig is going for another castle.
Grubby's gonna have to resort to a king snipe
or something soon, bro.
This is wild, man.
I know my castle just went down in the center of the map.
I'm gonna place one more forward.
That's confidence right there.
It's so true.
He lost on the center of the map.
He's like, no problem.
Let's go forward.
And the best part is like just to think it
in the mind of pigs,
get that super chill Australian accent.
Nothing bothers him.
He's just like, yeah, just go forward, man.
It's all good, you know?
Nothing phasing our paper is bombards. Okay, good. He only lost one there
Looking for the tray. Oh my goodness. That's archivist right there
Two of the cannons followed the cannon because of ballistics from the Portuguese unique tech
Good job from grubby selling up this castle
He needs to kill these villagers install this at this castle is brutal in a brutal position
You here come another wave of elephants the production buildings from pig are too far away
He needs to build some forward that the units are taking so long to get to the center of the map
Yeah, and I've found the castle
There's some villages from pick coming forward with the elephants from grubby kind of coming off those villagers skirmishes in the back
line making short work of the ones that do slip through
Elephants can't fighting his halves long term though
You got to be careful and love the gun back line though the gun back line from the Portuguese
He's like pig is playing exactly what he needs to but he's missing a lot of upgrades
I'd love to see pick pick up those upgrades at some point
Yeah, need the infantry upgrades just to make the halbrates even more efficient against those elephants.
My concern right now is just kind of his eco distribution.
He's low on food count or farmer count right now for running a composition that requires food for both his range and melee units.
Yeah, it's a good point. 30 farms a little on the lower side of things.
Maybe the economy needs a little restructuring as he goes forward and commits that four castle.
Dave, what do you make of Grubby's options on defense?
He's got a lot of villagers, 150, but the Elven Skirm might not work in the long-term.
I mean, it's not going, it's not working right now.
It's not working in the short-term, let alone the long-term, right?
He just needs a big stack of bomber cannons, needs to clean up the siege, clean up the castle,
and then find a way to out-macro Pig.
If Pig has a castle forward and Grubby has to fight in one spot,
that's definitely Advantage Portuguese.
Grubby needs to make it more about the rest of the map.
He has a castle. I love the castle that he did forward.
Yes, I love that. And taking the gold, that's amazing.
He can maybe pressure over there, but as far as just focusing all of his attention over in this area,
it's not going to work out for the Malay, not in this situation.
There's an element here at play, when you're the favorite and you're the one getting pushed back,
sometimes you don't really want to take a huge risk and try to go for a crazy play on the side,
because then if it doesn't work, you're just going to get steamrolled and that's going to feel very bad.
So sometimes you just want to stick it out on defense,
Try to make sure that you can have everything in the same spot, let your potential outplay potential be there, but so far it's not looking too good for Grubby.
That's a lot of population though.
Can we, dude, can we please make a barracks in the same hemisphere as this, like, fight that's happening? Please?
Like, he's in Uganda, dude, with the barracks at the back of his face!
I do feel like that is one of like the last things that mid e-low players start to understand is that as they push
You need to reposition production buildings closer to where the fight is actually happening when you watch pro players
They are constantly dropping new production buildings closer to the fight reinforcement time matters so much
Yeah
If it goes up to it'll cut off the reinforcements
Oh pay attention to that and grubby can take a fight
that's worthwhile at the front side the macro is paying off here for grubby dude
This is such a close game the scores neck and neck pig missing upgrades making it so grubby's got some decent counter play here
This castle in the center is already being targeted by the bombard. We've got a Trevor shape and grubby is they're gonna cut off the
Reinforcement line and again now more than ever we need to middle the map production
But here you go Dave you kind of got your wish some stables and bears coming down in the center
Although these couple cannons might die to the castle
Just has to regroup just regroup. Yeah, grubby the same thing right massive some
Siege you had a good push there watch out for archivist those bomber cannons if they shoot you start running away
That cannonball will track you into the edge of the earth. It's actually insane how much rage they they can have I
Think he's good. He needs to have some villagers. I don't think he's realized how many villagers you lost
During all that castle building he's down to 110 like in a long-term spam like grubby's eco is way healthier
The rest is healthier that right now is gonna be grubby's way of winning. Oh and pig just leaked two cannons
So not only did I have the most amount of villagers
It's also leaking some units and also take your attention to the back of pig's base
There's not much wood left back there
It's got a couple of trees
We said to be taking the wood in the center of the map and right now the center is being hotly contested by grubby
You know sitting pretty attuned to pop gravity has kind of outmaneuvered pig in this late game. This is fantastic play from grubby
Yeah, like you said, he's just taking advantage of the fact that he thinks he's a better player right? He's a favorite coming in here
He's got amazing macro 50 on food
Elephants are still coming out skirmes are still coming out. There's the bombard cannon mass
We asked for and the castle forward did its job both castles forward did their job
Grubby's pushing in and pig is down to 120 pop dude
So many castles went down though. Grubby lost the castle, two pig castles went down. Grubby's got that insane push here with the cannons
starting to really find his groove with this push, skirmish her elephant, still the composition.
We were questioning if it was going to work or not, but so far
it seems like Grubby wants to start that side push. He's got a lot more momentum down the center.
120 pot for pig. It's more villagers as Dash was saying, but it's also more army. We just need more of everything right now.
Yeah, Pig also just needs to back up and regroup, right?
Yeah.
He's feeling it slipping away, and he kind of keeps streaming these light cav in one
at a time.
He's not getting back up to any kind of a mask.
She retreat under your castle, get back up to some kind of mask, make your last stab
for the win right here, but instead, he's just getting pushed relentlessly here by
Grubby.
Yeah, dude, Grubby's got the- Is there an opportunity here for Pig?
You won't really be thinking of it because you're gaming right now, but maybe for a snipe, it doesn't feel like it.
Rebbe's got that vision all the way across the map. You can't even come forward for that YOLO last chance opportunity.
I think you should go for it though. I don't even know where the king is.
So he doesn't really know. He's actually got no vision of the castle even, but I think you know that it's going to be somewhere in the point in space.
Most of the time, if no one really moves into the corner unless you're like IEukston or something, so that's where I'd be employed.
but Gruby usually would death note come forward.
Or death note in the center of the map of course.
All your games lead from the front, okay?
Yeah, death note, his team showed a lot of heart there,
a lot of heart and courage.
But I think Pig should go for it.
It's kind of a misplaced to just lose
on a redstone fortress, not even in an attempt,
but let's see if he thinks about it.
So far he's trying to hold on with some halves.
Still a 120 pop, it's not terrible,
but it's not a pretty situation for him for sure.
He's gonna have no wood left soon too.
It's just there's not a lot in that corner right another forward castle from grubby
You're not letting up on the aggression military count is looking solid eco is looking fantastic
And he's using his resources. It's so impressive, right? So many people would just sit here and bank rest
Yeah, grubby is just sending in these units over and over and over again and pig is getting absolutely overwhelmed
I know grubby is about to win
But can we appreciate some of his woodlines and the number of steps that his villagers aren't getting in
on Rally.
I don't know.
Those look like your woodline stash.
No, bro!
Come on!
Yeah, you're right, though.
Dude, get that cardio!
My goodness.
I like this one.
The final tree has been cut on this lumber camp, but there's a lot more down here.
Actually, maybe even closer distance.
Fantastic callback there.
And I think Light Cap from Pig.
She's not the strongest unit.
It's okay.
armor upgrades on those lightcaps so actually maybe even the best unit on the
field are these lightcaps because scrimmages do one damage against them
wait wait hold on wait gravity could be throwing this game by the way the
castle yeah he's actually getting cleared up yeah that house is not gonna go up
scrimmages get cleared up no bombers in sights you know Halb's for the
elephants gravity's got to be careful here because the lightcaps transition
has been hot for pig yeah we'll get you for pig though transitions are such
difficult aspect of this game right it's probably like the the most difficult thing to learn in HBMPars 2 and even
pro players struggle with it when you see a new unit type come out on the field like this lightcab
suddenly your skirmishers and bomber cannons are no longer that effective yeah so grubby has to make an
adjustment and his adjustment right now is bro 52 bad elephants!
insane amount of elephants if you just walk forward there's nothing that
What's that pick and do about this? There's so many elephants in the field!
Yeah, this is a patrol forward kind of moment here.
It shows pretty good composure though by Grubby, like for a moment there it did look like it was slipping away,
but he understood to take his foot off the gas for a moment and just get this mass back up.
His opponent is running out of space, running out of resources, and pretty soon he won't be able to mount the defense.
Grubby really wants a castle here. I don't know what he's being in this corner of the map,
He's sending a more villagers. He really wants a castle here a big fight with the elephant that choke point is a choke point of held
They don't want to funnel in elephants. There's so many halbs, bro
How to be careful the other halbs? He's finally getting iron casting, but that's that last armor upgrade
Missing that for the last 30 minutes. Yeah. Yeah, it's huge
Dude, take my the losses game just on missing upgrades because the thing is like he's losing these halbs basically like twice as fast
Missing those last two fierce armor stats
Just not for him
Rubby's losing a lot of bills.
The raids are coming in from Pig.
Oh, look at that.
Yeah, it could be a way back in, right?
If Grubby starts panicking and sends military back to his base.
Elephant's going to deal with a leg-out.
I love this.
Oh, damn. Right after that.
He replaced those wood lines, too.
Yeah, true.
He got punished for making them efficient, it seems.
The king!
The elephants are near the king!
Hold on!
Hold on, dude!
We never seen elephants snipe a king before!
We've never seen them snipe a king and that we won't see it here. Okay, never mind
How to clean up hold on though grubby has vision now grubby sees the king
Then brought daylight and sitting in that tower
We could see a little bit of a sneak attack with some elephants so far pick continues to hold 90 published for him
Good good oh my good situation is not great and another line at the front side of his base. Oh my goodness. That's atrocious
Yeah, they'll just going down to that castle now as a result
This castle has got a lot of kills by the way, it's got 4 kills, actually not that much, but it's been controlling this side of the map for so long.
I thought I had more before I looked.
Dude, you're such a caster now, Hera. Welcome to the club, bro.
I was like, how do I spin this?
The thing is, I have so much power to just spin up a story.
Half the people watching have never seen a game of Age of Unborn.
I could be like, 4 kills is huge!
huge castles usually have like zero, that's a crazy castle
I'll admit my mistake, I said it too early, more elephants coming in though, more than
four elephants guys, there's a lot of elephants
a ton of elephants
yeah I'd, I'd be more honest
losing those villagers open pop space and he's still got 50 pop space for more elephants
but his gold is lacking, the gold supplies are dwindling now
this is the last elephant bush though, in terms of gold, he still has gold coming
in slowly, he's got three relics, a little bit of gold still on the map
but if somehow Pig can hold this Elven push,
there's not much more coming in from Grubby.
Oh, never mind.
Well, there's a lot coming in from Pig,
and it's a GG, so well played there from both of them.
That was an impressive push from Pig,
and great composure from Grubby to know that, like,
just trust in his eco, and trust in his production.
Yeah, I mean, you didn't see the Fate to Rio fall back
for the Portuguese, so maybe Pig
doesn't really know what that style
could have helped him in this late game,
but either way, really well played to Grubby,
Let's get a GG in the chat guys, Grubby taking the first game, but I have to say, and I think
as Cass this year we can all agree on this, Pig played damn impressive on this first game.
He probably had a winning position at multiple points in this game, and I felt like with
just a little bit of adjustments, maybe like forward production, some more upgrades coming
in, maybe just a little bit more like tight army control, he could have easily won this
first game, and so this is setting up for a nice series.
100% I mean honestly, I think so much of it you could just tie to the lack of armor final armor upgrade on the halbs
Right like he had a great composition for that kind of centralized push up the gut
But then he just didn't he didn't bring it to its utmost power, right?
And he sat underpowered for so long gave grabby that opportunity
to mass up just a more powerful unit, you know in terms of resource cost to
to power, you know, packed in the punch and he just kind of bulldozed them from there.
Yeah, a great game one. We're going to take it to Pig's home map now as he lost game one.
Remember, our home map picks are Arabia and Arena. Here's the thing about Pig. He has
practiced a lot of Arena and he also plays meta-sives on it. His main sieve is Bohemians,
whereas Grubby's got like Hindustani or Burgundians, which are also meta options.
So this might be like the highest level and the closest series to pro-play that we've
we've seen because like Captain Lance earlier brought a crazy good level, but he kind of
plays an off meta style.
Grubby and Pig both seem to be playing meta approaches in most games here.
And if this goes to Arena, we might see Bohemians versus Burgundians, which is an absolute pro
matchup.
Like Dave, you've casted a lot of 4AV2.
That's probably like the most popular matchup on Arena that we've seen over the years.
Yeah.
And if it's an interesting one too, because it feels like the Burgundians have a
better eco.
They're a little favored early, but then if it gets late, the Bohemians are
are just really tough to deal with if you're Bergadians.
But we can forget about all of that.
Serious problems, because Berg has went for a radio.
We're getting?
I can't believe you went for a radio.
That's cocky.
Dude, you're an absolute caster now.
Oh, man, I'm sending you the invitation in the mail, bro.
You've joined the club.
Speculation, talking about castles with four kills
and how important it is.
Maybe you shave your head next.
Maybe you can join me up on the end.
You don't have to be bald to be a caster.
We have many non-bald casters, Dave.
That's a different story.
I don't know, I was gonna shave my head tomorrow.
Dash, if you go for it, I'll join you.
I've got a triple bald caster for you, bro.
Dash, I love hair as hair, but as a bald man,
I could not see you shaving your hair.
Your hair is too beautiful, dude.
You know, I've actually done it twice in my life
for charity, so there were two different times
in my life that I was completely bald.
I can't even imagine that honestly. I'm just thinking of the last time I see I seen you like I can't imagine a bald dash
I will say though I can we have to start matching a bald hair of that hairline is receding a little bit
They're already calling me the Yamato hairline
I'm kind of coping and saying you know a matters hairline's worse, but I think the chats on
Somewhat of a trajectory there. They kind of got a point
Okay, so we're going to Arabia.
Arabia, yeah.
SIVs?
We don't know.
They haven't started yet.
What do you think?
I think I'm going to look for the thingy on the dashboard, and I can't find it.
Hold on.
Here we go.
They haven't started.
As far as thinking about SIVs on Arabia, I think we've seen Vietnamese from Pig multiple
times. So I would say probably Vietnamese from Pig. Grubby has a lot of civilizations.
He's got the Purgunions, but he might save them for Arena. He's got, I think he played
a little bit of Mongols on Arabia. He played Way, Mongols, a lot of Ethiopians.
A lot of Ethiopians. They've hosted the lobby right now. I think the smartest is the Way,
because Way is not something you want to really use on Arena. Although they're a great
Arena-sive, he hasn't practiced them on Arena. So I think probably in Grubby's
way makes sense and I think Vietnamese for Pig is like the number one pick.
I'm not sure what they're gonna go for though. At the end of the day, they could
just be bringing something completely new to the table.
Did they both get coached by Foster? I know Grubby did. Did Pig get coached by
him as well? Yes a little bit but it was basically just like one session with
Bulgarians and it seemed more like they were just messing around than it was
like anything serious for the tournaments. So I'm not sure if he's gonna be
pulling that out and probably, you know, the biggest set of pigs, uh, competitive
AVG career against Grubby here.
What would you go for, Dash?
Vietnamese comfort pick.
Okay.
I think Vietnamese is just a very well-rounded, uh, sieve in terms of options at this level.
I think knowing where your opponent is is just a super valuable, um, you know,
knowing exactly where to send your scout to get that information.
You've just lost your scout to the TC too many times, bro.
You just-
I mean, I'm not the same boat.
I'm the same boat.
100%, but it's just so like, to remove just,
I think at this level, like one of the best things you can do,
especially in like tournament play,
even more than like ladder play,
is just like remove the like simple mistakes
that you know, like the,
those ways that you can pretty much lose a game,
you know, and one of those ways is to lose your scout
early to an opponent's TC.
So I think Vietnamese is incredible.
But I also think one of the reasons why Vietnamese is incredible is because Imperial Skirmisher
is just an insane unit.
And a lot of these games can drag out to an insane length.
I mean, even this one was starting, the game we just watched was starting to drag out, right?
And if you can fall back on just like a very basic unit that you can create without gold,
that is super strong.
It has a lot of value.
Guys, they're in its way versus Wu and Grubby paused the game immediately
and said, hang on a second, can I read your sieve?
He's in the tech tree right now.
It's actually something that Grubby asked of me earlier.
Like he told me, listen, if we need a minute
to just read the opponent civilization, is that possible?
And I was like, sure Grubby,
you can have a minute to read your opponent civilization.
It's actually available to everyone.
I know there's some Grubby stuff flying around,
but no, anyone can do this.
And Grubby's never even heard of the woo,
let alone played against them.
I'm actually not sure why Pig has gone for the woo.
I'm never even gonna play it.
This is maybe a cooked up strat.
Maybe just some like anti meta.
They also throw Grubby's way, but either way.
Grubby walking the way himself,
tried and tested Siv of course,
and Pig with something a little out there, for sure.
So with like, Wu is a pretty decent Siv
if you're gonna go infantry into archers.
I don't know if that's gonna be his play
or if he just even plays archers that's decent.
Still decent with Capri as well.
Grubby says, fun fact, Wei Wu, Wei Wu, Wei Wu equals ambulance.
What is Grubby on about?
Also, Pig with a little AVT trash talk weighs the looser version, okay?
And then spamming some taunts there, but it looks like they're both gonna get started here.
And let's see what Pig has in store for us with the Wu. I think that's definitely an out out of the box civilization
Let me just make sure the cams are correct as well here
They aren't nice
Son of bad sip though, I spit it might catch your opponent off guard right because grubby
I don't know how often he played against Wu on Arabia and the latter
Yeah, probably the few times and yeah, it could actually be never
I don't know if you have the stats on that but like at most a few times me like a handful and
It's a decent sieve, so let's talk a little bit about the woo for the chat here.
A lot of people here might not be too familiar with the sieve, as it is a DLC sieve come out like a year and something ago in the same DLC as the way, but the way it's been played a little bit more.
There was an infantry based sieve that also has some decent early game archer play and has overall OK cavalry as well.
So expect most the infantry, the infantry heals throughout the ages.
It heals a bit more as they advance through feudal age, castage and imperial age.
They also have some really good options in terms of fire archers from the castle if that unit does hit the field
I'll explain a little bit more about what that does but dash what do you make of pigs kind of off-medicive
Is that something you're excited to see from him as the underdog or do you feel like it doesn't how well
I played in the first game. Maybe just plays as comfort zoning spine, you know just taking the match head on to grubby
Yeah, I mean I'm cool with it, you know, I'm fine with throwing a bit of a wild card
I think the question is what which of two strategies will he go for is it going to be?
like some kind of a phosphoru fast castle into fire archer and I'm just going to try and kill you in
castle edge with fire archers or more likely just Jon Swordsman spam and does you know Grubby have
much experience going up against just kind of a ridiculous infantry unit spam that also regenerates.
It requires better unit control from Pig ultimately but I mean I'm excited for it. I question
again whether or not he's going to be very successful with it. Looking at Grubby's map
and the way that he's already approaching Walling, I think Grubby's going to be pretty
safe here.
Yeah, and Grubby has just paused for the tech tree. So like when you got one minute with
the tech tree, you're reading the bonus, you know, the bonuses that come alongside
Glucy. He kind of understands it's an infantry base, but I don't think he's read much
about the Janss swordsman because that's a unique.
Yeah, did he notice it?
The woo.
Did he see it in the barracks? That's the question.
Yeah.
That's a kind of a cornerstone of the woods strategy
So let's see how grabby adapts to this game here as he just continues to learn boards and beers go by his regular dark
It's not sort of on gold though interesting
Yeah, what is he gonna man and arms
Let's just take he was just out there he just
Wow, that's efficiency that's peak efficiency right there
It's picking up 10 gold that's kind of fun actually that opens up some crazy strategies like he can now go like three militia
Without making a mining camp if you want to he can also
Okay, not much more than that, but you know 10 gold is 10 gold
Another cast a moment for you Dave. There you go. It is an absolutely crazy strat dude. We only saw it for 20 straight years
It's been sought out of the meta though actually it's like all the people doing it house
Yeah, OG strat. Still respect for the OGs though.
I mean, it's pink learning and some deer, yeah both players are learning some deer.
You can tell a little bit more what they're going to go for based on the uptime's grubby,
with a standard 19-pop uptime.
That seems like it's going to be a scout rush, especially since we see the mill.
It could also be a spear, it could also be an archer opening,
but very likely to be a scout opening for the grubs that are here.
It's a nice early build for both players, very, very smooth.
smooth. Yeah good job pushing in the deer. Yeah and kind of limited idle TC
actually grab you a 13 seconds of idle TC a little bit inefficient there but you
know picks on a good job keeping that in the single digits. The ones you're going
out here is that a Barracks Builder? That's a Barracks Builder. Oh it is!
That's gonna be Miner Arms I think. That's a Miner Arm timing. Barracks
they're even a little late for Miner Arm timing. Let's see if it's gonna
commit to it. I think he should. Woo with the healing Miner Arms are very
very solid. It's not quite as powerful as the Romans that we've seen but
But it is a little bit more hidden than the Romans.
Romans is like the most obvious men-at-arm rush on the planet.
Whereas the Wu, you know,
Grubby might not be too prepared for it,
although judging by the walls,
I think it was you, Daphne,
that mentioned it, pretty good setup here
to defending his early infantry.
The way the map's set up,
there's a solid chance the pig runs
right into the TC from Grubby.
Should have gone Vietnamese.
He's still got, if he's going men-at-arms,
he has to find him quick, and he is.
Yeah, he is going he is going militia. Oh, he's going to go. Oh, no, Dave. Oh, okay. Not too bad. Okay, doesn't take too much damage. Let's go, dude. He's beginning to believe dodging bullets did.
Yeah, we have already here, Hera failed.
And I know where it's casting moment.
Three militia. I mean, pig. Okay, so go for the middle arm. Sorry. Go ahead, dash. I would just where do you where do you
Even attack now with these man arms. Look at the walling from Grubby. I mean you're just going to be hitting a wall at this point
Yeah, uh great walls and great defensive structure here from Grubby that gates a little strange because it's kind of walling out his own gold
But it's not really too concerned about it for now
It's likely to open with that stable
But you don't have to go in if you like you already forced these walls you have them you have the meta arms
You can just hit a wall downhill and just force your repair and that's like okay damage
You could also just try to run through if you've got the uh, you know
wall then
You wanted to wall
Nice try to flex on him man, but pigs too quick. He's too fast
He's watching this scout great job from pig and things like this can add up right?
It's just really annoying. Yeah grubby to have this scout running around on the hill
Dude, how crazy would it be to distract with the scouts run straight into the men arms?
That's a high-level play, but we could see it come in
Ah, Grubby's aware though, he's tracking his man-at-arms, extra wall going up near the gold.
Yeah, really hard to break in. Some punishment onto that scout as well from the Villager.
Nice job from Pig, trying to split the damage, but Grubby, get with those quick walls.
He's got double bid ex-in now, no horse call, there's only one Villager extra four ways.
Remember, you need to pick up the eco-upgrades to get to extra villagers.
Now, through all this though, I mean Pig's built a 300 resource collected lead,
a lead. A lot of people are going to look at this and go, oh no damage done, the walls
are up, but at the end of the day all the time that these villagers have spent walling, chasing
that scout around, repairing this house, that's resource advantage for Pig. So let's see what
he can make of it.
Oh my god.
The thing with Woo is like, he can just outheal this too.
Yes, that's true. He can just take some damage, force it out of time and just wait.
Sorry, I was just shocked to see this. There's a market coming up for Pig. He's
He's gonna go for the Jan Swordsman follow-up.
Wow!
That's really good level.
That's insane.
Men at arms into Jon Swordsman with that timing is crazy.
If he can hit the timing,
you can see him trying to get that food.
He doesn't have enough yet.
He's got five on food right now.
He's gonna have to sell his stone
and then buy extra food and he's still idle in his TC.
Delete the blacksmith,
use the wood for farms right now.
Well, he needs the blacksmith to go up, right?
I think he still wants to get that timing.
You're still far food-wise.
You should be investing that money into farms now and then build the blacksmith when you actually
had it because he's nowhere close to the food resources if he wants to continue producing bills.
I agree with you, Dash. Also, if you just rush to Castle J, like three farms, you can't
make the Gen Swordsman anyway, so take a little bit of time, eight farms, chill a bit, maybe
a few walls even, and then just naturally like blacksmith later, go up a little later,
but have that economy to sustain yourself. He's got to kind of turbo in though,
but he needs the blacksmith to be made, not just the foundation.
I mean, he's going to forget. Yeah, he's going to forget that it's out there.
He probably missed the shift cue there with the blacksmith. That's unfortunate for big
Hopefully he can kind of figure that out but he'll get it's her bowing towards the castle edge and grubby is the kind of guy that likes to stay defensive
Is he the kind of got a counter attack got three archers going across the map?
But he sees the man arms back in his vision. Does he go back or does he stick to the counter attack?
Looks like he's sticking to the counter attack, which is the right call here
He's sending a villager up there to try and repair that house that is ambitious
from that Bill.
Ambitious play from Grubby.
Yeah, Piggy, I don't want to get the resources,
and now he realizes that the Blastman doesn't kill.
Oh God. Yeah, he can click up with the Blast that's needed.
Meanwhile though, Piggy is trying to trap this Grubby villager
Grubby's running. He's walking with the archer.
Great play from Grubby to survive that.
There's another villager. Quick wall, quick wall.
Ah, he failed it. He failed it. He's got to run.
Builder kills? He's going to save her too.
I like that he pulled them away initially and didn't dive in for that villager.
A lot of players would try and get that but he can just heal up over time.
He's gonna go take up that house again.
Grabby's gonna be housed here so damage is being done by Pig.
Wow.
Which is not at arms.
But the counterattack has landed, flushing in 20 seconds guys.
Three archers for Grabby.
There's refills there.
No tower because we stole the stone, no units because we're going fast castle and
the villager is being pulled.
One villager already going down and Grabby's got some clean micro here, hit and run
The villagers cannot catch these archers watching then
Down at least we're going down here. It's around the fire by grubby to yeah to the archers do go down to the bills
So that's decent. Yeah, threeville kills. I mean three. Look away grubby side. Oh, there's villager kills. Oh my god
Yeah, that's that's not good
No kills so far, but three villagers running for the hills you could kind of turn around and fight
He's gonna show the quick wall. I think grubby's kind of overdoing it with the quick wall
Also, just turning around and fighting is probably better, trying to body block a little bit, but Pig is doing really well, doesn't take the bait, look at this!
Splits the Men at Arms, still looking for that first Villager kill, regardless, still a lot of idle time forced.
This is going to be a very old Krabby Block, the Men at Arms with the Villager in the back.
He's going to save that one, he can't save the other one, but this is going to be a rude awakening for Grubby.
for Grubby. When three Barracks, Jon Swordsman show up immediately and they can just sit under his TC
and keep killing these villagers. This is going to be very difficult for him.
Yeah, the Men of Armour value has been unreal for paper. In fact, he's still got one of those alive.
It's just been insane. Let's talk a little bit about the Jon Swordsman though,
because we've got a lot of viewers that are wondering, one of the cast is talking about,
what is this Jon Swordsman unit? It's a unique unit for the Wu and it's super tanky.
Think of the Goth Huskroll. It's got like a mini Huskroll. It's got a lot of Pierce Armor.
They take one damage from like every projectile in the game. It's it's really insane at least anything that grubby can field
So they're super tanky
They're quite strong and you don't need an upgrade for them
It has come straight out of the barracks and we got a triple barrack Jen Swarzen all in now the fact that he's going forward
Is insane never forward villager as well as an all-in three back Jen Swarzen forward sees workshop pig is going for the kill
This is crazy. This is sick. This is a really good play from pig because I think you're kind of taking advantage of
grubby's defensive nature. Yeah. Like grubby's gonna stay home with these archers. He's probably
gonna want to play into eco upgrades and then John Raiders as well from the archer range.
Oh, and workshop and monastery. This this will cook that strategy from grubby if pig doesn't
toss his units away immediately. Dude, this is high level. This is really very high level.
John Swordsman for those of you at home who don't know they have five of Pierce Armor
innately. So before any upgrades come in, these things already have five Pierce Armor.
Those feudal edge archers right now are doing five total damage, which means they're only going to do one damage a hit to these Jon swordsmen
Dude men arms
This is crazy hole. Yeah hole through the wood. The value for them is insane
Kill a villager force all the villagers back grab a some remake a lumber camp
This is not even the main sign of pig those men arms are in overtime right now getting extra value that no one can even
Imagine that they'd find grab me now full fully wall is base closes the gap get in the front
But he's got no clue. There's a seed workshop modesty push right outside his base
Grubby clue this is my goodness a rude awakening
He's in maybe grubby house walls behind
Got that shift I think there's no hole. I think there's no hole behind that house. No and the wood line
Honestly, on a hill maybe? I don't think so though, but you never know man. Those holes can be sneaky.
Get on the front please, good girl.
You know, sniped a vill in the front, on that gate as she was trying to put it up.
There's a hole! Nope!
Gave me the damage. I was like, no dash is right, but I'm wrong. I have to try to spin this, you know?
pressure onto the T.C. though here grubby already feeling forced to put up a
tower on the backside to protect his gold now going to try and force up a siege
workshop of his own in defense he does have a monastery so first month coming
onto the field don't know if he's gonna reach for redemption they don't even have a redemption
Jon Swordsman he could just run in yeah I agree I agree you don't have to
with the manganals you can just run in manganals we cook on the T.C. hitting
the house it's not needed we have a lot of pure summer we don't have to
respect his talent at all pig it seems like a great strategy but he doesn't
really understand how good it really is giving grubby a lot of time here for no
reason oh he's pulling away from one monk man too much respect yeah it is the
name though it is that you know you're up against the seed one of the tournament
maybe according to many players at least from the rank ladder and just want to
play it safe and whatnot but sometimes you had to go in it's only one
We got you know doesn't plus Jen swordsman to Megan else this one monk is nothing in comparison to this army
Let's go in go go go go go
Scream a lot or he'll hear you. Oh my goodness too much now though one
tracking the manganelle
He did it looks like he sees it now my god. Oh my god rate first hit there from grubby
Good attack round. Oh, did this man get off now he goes has encouraged him keep going keep going
Oh my goodness the man on courage and he's had and now it's there's no stop
He's in on the woodland to new yeah, this is crazy. This is a complete GG grubby's got nothing against this guy's
Megan all comes out. It's gonna get taken down a shot kind of whiffs monk goes down no conversion
It's one gen sort of it. This is a dozen of them
This is a complete domination for pig the TC got un-Garrisons and the Jensen will win this game for sure
Wow.
Holy.
Wow.
Somebody call that ambulance for Grubby, man.
He just got absolutely wrecked.
He's going to need to fast track to the emergency room.
Oh, my God.
That was crazy.
What a strategy from Pig.
So high-level.
Yeah, absolutely.
So high-level.
Like, when I saw the market, I was like, oh, my God, he's going to do the Jan Swordsman.
And of course, Grubby, he, one minute to check the tech tree, not enough to really
come up with a game plan to counter the Jan Swordsman.
Beautiful, beautiful play from Pig.
E-class is the score and considering he almost had that game one, dude, this series is anybody's game.
Absolutely. I mean, great Castle Age timing too, even with some of those eco-mistakes, right?
Like the eco-mismanagement, the blacksmith that's not there for a while, he still beat Grubby to the Castle Age by three minutes.
Gave him so much time to set up that push.
Does finally get enticed into the base by the existence of that Manganel from Grubby.
Yeah, that was...
knows it would have been better never building a manganale. I don't know.
And pick as he's running in, because of how good the run in was, he's probably
like, man, I couldn't stand this like three minutes ago. And yeah, yeah.
The chat saying call grubby. He's crying guys. Guys, I'm a pastor now.
I coached grubby like a thousand hours during the ladder race.
But right now he is beyond my help. And I do don't don't get me wrong.
I'd love to just hop in small call and give him some tips based on his
own. See what he can do to recover here.
I don't know about you guys, but it kind of feels like
Pig's got a really good grasp on the two Sivs that he's played so far.
Like he knew what he needed to do with Portuguese.
He knew what he needed to do with Wu.
And he's also got a great grasp on the tendencies of his opponent as well.
He's really exploiting like the passiveness of Grubby.
And the kind of reluctance to go for those aggressive strategies, right?
And this is something I criticized, by the way, in Grubby's game plan during the ladder race.
I told Grubby multiple times, and of course it is hard to break the habit,
But for the multiple times you don't want to give up that full map control
You always want to keep some army on the field gain some respect from your opponent
don't let him just push you like that and
It's something that grubby still has to kind of incorporate into his game
It looks like the person taking a little bit of a bathroom break pig will
You know just take a couple minutes and grubby's thinking about the next home map
It is grubby's home map. He's lost this game. It could be a read a radio. It could be arena
It's gonna be arena options here. Um, it's gonna be arena and Burgundians
But I just to add on to that point. I I'm also really happy Dave that that pig
Decided to stick with like kind of that more aggressive and oppressive gameplay even after losing with that style in game one
Right like he was the one trying to pressure in game one
Ultimately a few things go wrong ends of losing the game
It'd be very easy to be reactive to that and say like okay, well then I'm gonna switch things up
And now I'm gonna play super defensive
But he kind of sticks to his guns there
utilizes a unique save with a unique approach and plays it pretty close to perfection.
Again, for Mid-Elo, it was an impressive performance.
Yeah, absolutely.
And also, taking Grubby to Arabia, now Grubby has the home map pick.
Again, Grubby could just be like, okay, I messed up once on Arabia, lost the map,
but I'm still really confident in Arabia.
I got a couple more picks that I'm good at.
I can just take him back to Arabia, or Grubby can think,
you know what he took me to Arabia let me switch it up take him to arena and so
this is what's going on in grubby's mind he can do a lot of you know kind of
mental games try to come up with the right solution but we saw a little bit of
an upset maybe although it was a close game between captain Lance and you
thermal you thermal was the better Arabia player clearly but captain Lance was
the better arena player here I feel like it was kind of close so far we
haven't seen arena yet but so far kind of registered fortress was close
Arabia was pretty close. Let's see if there's going to be any, uh, yeah, any arena shakeup for
Grubby if he just brings us back to Arabia. I like the triple cast, by the way. You guys are
saving my vocal cords, man. You're going to be cooked by the end of this tournament, though,
Harry. You're going to be absolutely cooked, man. I don't know how you're going to be able to speak
at all. I felt myself losing my voice yesterday, but now I'm like back. I don't know, like,
My voice is back today. It's like, I don't know, maybe the Red Bulls, the Bidens in there,
or something, maybe the water, I don't know, but something's kind of giving the motivation
to just continue pushing through. But I think it's just how fun it is. I'm not really thinking
about just how much work has been put in yet. Hasn't settled in.
I mean, you'll, in a week and a half, you'll only have to play as well.
Yes.
You won't have to cast anymore. You'll have like a full week of just playing.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. It's been a lot of fun, though. I have to say, like, this tournament
has been so much fun. It's delivered way past my expectations. We also broke a viewership
record on my channel last game. I think we were close to 20,000 between YouTube and Twitch,
just on my channel. Overall, we've had like 35,000 plus viewers on this tournament, which
by the way, thank you all for being here. That's like rivaling our S tier tournament
numbers for Age of Empires 2. So this term has been a raging success, which has just
made it so motivating. So a huge thank you to everyone tuning in to Age of Empires
you on a weekend. Of course, big thank you to Dave and Dash for joining me here. We're
going to go into the game three very soon. Pig is back to the seat and so it's Grubby's
home map. What's everybody goes for?
Oh, okay. It just popped up.
They're on Arabia, but I don't know if they're going to stay there.
Yeah. It's in lobby still, so we'll see if it...
I mean, what's funny is like you I could see grubby going to arena simply because like he
wants to protect against that kind of aggression.
Evan Pig still just goes forward Castle kind of like what we saw a capital
Lance do to you thermal, right? It's just like I'm still going to go aggressive.
And if you if you decide to play greedy and drop that TC first before either scouting it out
or, you know, having a manganelle ready, you're screwed.
I mean, Lance had a lot of prep too.
Like we, we had like a three hour, four hour stream together
and we were just talking about like fast stamps
and pushing with forward castles.
So like he was really locked in on that wind condition
and he's, he's got a lot of good experience as well.
Cause he's played a lot of team games.
Yeah. Like Lance is dangerous, man.
Lance is kind of my favorite going forward
in the tournament after today?
Yeah, I feel like Grubby,
there's a bit of a question mark on whether he can adapt
to different rushes,
because I feel like if the game is micro macro,
like late game, like we saw that game one,
it's kind of close,
and then just Grubby takes it to like a high gear
in the late game,
where he just pops off with like 200 production,
he's really good at micro managing that late game.
But when it comes to dealing with pushes,
if we're imagining a potential Grubby-Lance matchup
in the next winter bracket round,
I feel like Captain Lance
is not gonna let Grubby boom at all,
So that's a big question mark onto Grubby's gameplay. They've started the next game
It's gonna be Arabia and Grubby's bought as trusted Ethiopians versus pigs trusted Vietnamese
This is both I'm so worried for Grubby. This is a hard matchup though because Vietnamese kind of counters Ethiopians
Exactly exactly and you just get free Imperial skirmish here into an archer base. So I
Mean I think a big the good news is like for for Grubby
This is what I believe one of his most played civs right didn't he start primarily on Ethiopians
Oh, it is my part of his most fun for Gundians. Okay. Yeah, I should be 180 games with it or something like that
Yeah, right. Yeah, so this should be ultra comfort for him
And this is where you would kind of expect that even in a matchup
Maybe that isn't necessarily favorite for him
He can still just pilot the civ maybe handle the transitions between different units a little bit smoother
Make use of the the bonuses, you know
like the extra golden food upon age-upping and pig with a great map is
this map is incredible again mm-hmm and grubby's no nice woodland there good
woodland to the back as well gold very secure berries up to the side but not
too exposed looking at pigs map for berries kind of a Ford gold does have a
nice back woodland though I took a map sure a bit even but slightly favorite
for grubby also I want to take a note here that Vietnamese we saw we saw
Singsing earlier just jumped straight to his opponent's base and actually lame a bore that is on the table for pig
But pig has chosen to not really utilize that that Vietnamese bonus and just go straight across
Says scout and kind of play a consistent dark age
You don't have to go for the bore lane with Vietnamese and pick showing that you know what jump play a standard game
Not gonna risk it in the dark age
Yeah, and I don't I don't really think like if you just won the last game in such a convincing fashion
And then you had a chance in the first game. You don't need to take any wild risks
Yeah, going forward and trying to lame a bore anything. You're not that much of an underdog. You're actually competing quite well, so
It should be pig here with the momentum coming in especially with such a nice sit matchup
Vietnamese ask a silly noob question of course
Every day, baby. Yeah, is it just a hundred percent more efficient to kill the board with the TC now or
Or like it is there at is it actually any faster or more efficient to kill with the TC versus just killing it with a group of the
Sevenville, you know like seven villagers under the TC
Or is it just a jump in and out and be slightly more efficient, but it's just it's more consistent
Okay, the TC. Yeah, I definitely still do it the old way
I just like pull pull bill through and just kill it with my villagers as it's running by right and and killing it under TC
But then I was wondering I was like is it actually faster
By the way, like there's been some shenanigans here grubby targeted the villager here from pig
Didn't kill it, but pig got housed because he was kind of dealing with that kind of shenanigan from grubby
So now we had a little bit of idle TC time because you kind of forget that house
And so just a little bit of early pressure from grubby kind of making pig panic a little
Be a little behind is a bill behind
22 seconds out of TC, but to your point dash just bring it in the bore and killing with the town centers generally speaking of the
More consistent approach and Dave definitely had the right answer there
I don't know if Grubby will be too worried about this matchup. He's played on a bunch of ladders
So it kind of knows that it's kind of bad on paper, but seems to have a nice early game advantage with that scouts harassment
Dude, I was I was saying earlier with all these guys playing Age of Empires and streaming and a lot of them playing it for
if not the first time like
still relatively new
Imagine if we still had
the TC killing the boar tech where the meet wasn't available if the oh my god final shot
Imagine the chaos that would have happened. Yeah for all of these streamers and all of the funny moments that we would have had
Surrounding that dude. What's funny Dave is that when that changes coming?
I was like really against it as like an a with you furious
No, it's been like this 25 years. I was against it like one week after it came. I was like, oh, yeah
This shit's totally better. It's fantastic. You know
Yeah.
I did a 180 turn on that one.
All right, Pugel Age on the way for Grubby.
He's going up 19 population.
Pig, like you said, with that harassment from Grubby, he had himself an awkward start.
You can already see it in the res collected.
You could see it in the idle TC time.
He's going to go up with 20 population and he's going to try and just kind of
recover his wits about him and have a consistent build.
What is this? Yeah for grubby. We got it. We got a shepherdess and a woman with an axe
Moving forward down through the center of the map. Yeah, that's a dangerous combo right there
Sounds like a Florida
Please the first one grabs you first one grabs you around the neck the shepherd grabs you around the neck
And then he just gets lobbed off
by the woman with the axe
I'm worried about pigs futile age setup too just because you only got four on wood
He's committed a second mill and four villagers to the the rabbit
So I mean he's gonna have a lot of food
But I don't know what his military options are gonna be necessarily just now dropping the barracks
Still has a minute
Double range forward play that he tried against was it you thermal? Yeah, he did it with the malleons, right?
Yeah, I think it is and I think the one criticism I had of a truck there is they just stopped making villagers
And I don't think you need to make it that all in.
Sneaky archers with Villages behind is good enough to win a game.
Villager production keeps you in the game in case it doesn't quite work out.
Two Villages from Grubby looking for some proxy ranges.
If Pig is not prepared for this, if he doesn't scout it, it's going to be very hard to defend.
First range gets dropped down when looking for the second one right now.
He's not even going to be able to drop a military build.
Like he can get three on wood. He's about to get fetal.
When those archers show up, he's not even going to be able to build an archery range.
way too much food right he's made that second mill he is walling though oh my god oh my god that's huge
this could be huge grubby sending the scout back over but the scouts weak from before
okay he's the wall he's like no that sucks you could kill that bill that's amazing
did you play from grubby recognize the little hp bill beautiful quick what do you know snipe
the wood though dash you mentioned the wood that we got so much food we got 500
almost 600 food in the bank no wood pig realized it's mistake luckily though he's the vietnam
you can get eco upgrades with no wood cost so at least you'll get the double bid
axe if you just click set. Oh don't send the villagers forward Grubby then you
let him know that something's up. Yeah he wants to break through but that's Patel
right there and he's already bringing an archer forward so quick
notification here for Pig about what he's dealing with but how does he
respond still doesn't quite have the wood to actually put up an archery
range of his own and these are really he's only two wood lines at this point
Where does he go?
I can feel the panic.
I can feel it through the screen, man.
He is absolutely panicking right now.
The archers are here.
More archers coming in.
The villagers are there.
No!
That's terrible.
You can't fight the archers yet, but you can't fight this many.
The wall!
Oh, good wall!
That's a huge wall off!
That's a huge re-wall behind.
He's fighting with the villagers on the wood line.
Scout coming in.
Quick gate, quick gate.
defensive defense from pig he's killed both villagers as well as his own wait
this is crazy he's killed both way he's holding this they're both to to an
eco KD if you can just trap these archers he goes to the gate does he get
it the gate are not quite not quite but still a great hold loses one more
village of those three two in terms of eco KD we start making some skirmishers
guys all things considered at the monumental defense for pig like that
could have been horrible. It's decent. I'm still I'm stunned. This game, I feel like
should be over right now. Yes, based on the opening that grubby was given there.
But first skirmisher is on the field. We still don't have fletching for these
archers. So with maybe one or two more skirmishers, he'll be able to push these
archers back pretty easily. Production is still good though for grubby. Guys,
no behind this looking at no Vildra production yet. No, I don't you see out
the ass right now. Two minutes of auto TC, no farms, no chickens, which is
It's a lot of babies.
No fletching, you can't afford it.
He's not making villagers.
Dude, Grebi's super all in, but he is back in onto Pig's base.
We have some skirmishers and some good micro from Pig,
keeping that low HP skirm away.
But still five archers here, looking aggressive.
Grebi needs fletching for these archers.
It's critical.
And he comes in with the one HP scout,
and he gets the one HP bill.
The bill could have turned back into these guys.
Don't play incredibly, man.
What a show.
Super super high level.
That's huge.
That is massive. We saw it before the game Atroc had against Uthermal, where Uthermal couldn't get the armor or Fletching because he was so up against the wall and Atroc had Fletching and he got so much damage.
He didn't end up winning the game, but it was insane what the Archers could do.
Yeah, Fletching now and you see the Archers, they attack even faster than generic ones. A lot of these villagers are peppered up.
All kind of taken some hits. One of them finally falls here with Archers and could be in scrims.
Here my grubby. Yep. He split up a kill a couple villages up top looking good for him
I
Even as a result
Yeah
Down to 23 to 22 is because you know in order to have this kind of archer production and to commit to fletching grub
He's not able to produce too many villagers. He's got enough food now. I'd like to see him start investing in villagers
But he's probably like being pretty hard way. Yeah, he's absolutely locked in right now
I absolutely respect the attention to detail here from pig to keep trying to rewall back. Yes. Yeah, just stop
The archers coming in that's what saved his game so far is the multiple times
He's rewalled that grubby has to keep breaking it
We need armor by the way back over to deal with these archers. You have a blacksmith pick and just click armor
You can click flushing as well. You need upgrades age one parts up
Gates really nice guy
Oh!
Rubby needs to start adding Vils, man.
Like, the pressure's still coming down.
You're still getting Villager kills,
but your opponent's massing skirm.
You need to start adding that backup plan behind this, right?
Rubby's still pushing it with the Micra.
There's still a chance he can win with this initial push.
But if he doesn't...
Oh my god.
Oh my god, there's a one-a-one if you build.
Arthur chases him.
Arthur chases the...
What if you build under the town that it kills her?
And uh, dude, Pig has lost 9 villagers so far, but he's still up 3.
The other DC time has been crazy for Grubby.
Yeah, Grubby is finally putting some villagers in the queue here and there from 20 to 25.
Wow.
It's being blocked right now by the archers.
He's gonna get a few more skirmishers over there.
Armour is in, Armour is in, that's massive.
The armour is in for the skirmishers.
I think this push from Grubby is about to stall out.
He just walled in again!
Oh Pig!
Dude.
The presence of mine to go to that wall, amidst the archers, he will lose two bills for it, but now the push is cleared up for sure.
Remember these are Vietnamese skirmishers, 36 HP, considering the regular skirmishers only 30, a nice little bonus for the Vietnamese.
Armors in, so they're super tanky.
Grubby's looking for one more kill? Maybe he finds her.
Uh oh, headshot.
Beautiful.
Oh, found one more! That's crazy, it was one HP.
I mean Grubby's now you know less bills but more resources collected yeah but I
think he needs to realize that his push is running out of steam right you can
still pump these archers behind woodlines like he's doing right now to
harass but you need to be thinking about your transition from this point
forward and he's put some villagers out onto the rabbits so he's looking for
some food eco yeah that's some farm stuff as well you could go scouts here
or you could think about Castle Age as well if you're Grubby like a faster
castle I don't know what's the most consistent thing I think overall you do
You need to wall your base though, because eventually this army will come back across.
Yeah, Fletching coming in from the play.
Fletching also helps with archers, so as Pig doesn't need to stay on skirmishers all game
here.
He can make a few skirmishers, push back the archers, and Vietnamese have great archers
in their own right side.
I would like to see Pig clear this up, and then maybe I even add a second range to
group some archers, reclaim the map a little bit.
But great micro from Gragi, he's got a lot of archers around.
He's actually outmatching these skirmishers pretty hard.
This set is delivered so far, for sure.
high level. I love the fact that Grubby switched it up this game and it was like he was listening
to us right it's like he needs to be more aggressive this is way more aggressive than
I was talking about but it's very entertaining. Also another thing with forward production
buildings I don't know how often Grubby's played a sneak attempt like this maybe never
but when you have forward production buildings things get really hairy once you lose your
momentum. And you're trying to defend with the units that you're producing from those. So he
needs to be ready with something at home, if Pig wants to attack him. That's like the villager,
his reasoning so far seems to be, let me just keep attacking. He's kind of looping them around
this wood line here, a little bit of lube action. Shout out Yamato, of course. But
Pig is masking up skirmishers that just aren't dying anymore. So eventually,
Pig's gonna have enough skirmishers to just defend. And Grubby, like you said,
Dash, will have to transition away to something else. Because listen, a lot of farms to
He's making his transition to what's Castle Age very soon.
He's in a good spot, overall.
Yeah, both players kind of realizing that in this moment they need to start getting more on food.
You can see Grubby as well at home starting to surround the TC with farms, thinking about Castle Age.
But both players still a ways away in terms of the overall resources.
I think the difficulty though here for Grubby is going to be the Civ matchup, right?
We talk about needing to transition, well as Ethiopians, what do you transition into, right?
You want to be eventually on like an arbalist seed ram or arbalist on your kind of composition
later in the game, you're playing in the Vietnamese, it just feels like you're running
into a brick wall.
You have some options, double eco tech coming in from Pig.
Nice.
You can get Wilbur too.
Yeah, certainly Wilbur would be fantastic to boost those farms.
Like Ethiopian showtel warriors I think are a little underused.
I think Grubby has not really mixed them into his arsenal as much.
So decent option there.
But to your point Dash, no matter what Ethiopians do, the imp scrum is going to be like the main
unit stuffing those kind of archer play that they so desperately want to get onto in most
compositions.
And so if I were Grubby, I would like to do something different than an archer line
in Cast Lich.
So kind of pushing the Vietnamese away from their imp scrums, or their scrums entirely,
giving you a chance to re-get into our blessed later.
It's a bit of a high level concept to just like switch it up early to, you know,
deny that kind of counter unit, that perma counter unit.
I'm not sure if Grubby can do that, but something like a two-stable transition in Castle could really finish Pig off if he stays on the skirmishers.
I think Grubby's gonna fall into the forward production building strap here, Hera. He's gone for the market.
He's gonna try and click up, I think, soon. The scouts are out, so the skirmishers are gonna get pushed away.
Yeah. And then he'll be relying on his forward buildings.
And this is just like...
I don't want to see it, but I suspect it might happen for him. This is just an experience thing with Age of Empires, right?
You do this enough times and you learn that you get screwed over by the forward buildings
Yeah, he's to stop making military from the forward production right now
Send them back home whatever he's got left and just kind of re recoup
He's got a recoup and just think about the follow-up like actively come up with a new plan because this is current one here
You can try mixing in some archers burn out like scurms scouts for pig
Yeah, they are so low. Yeah, what a great defense from pig. Oh my goodness
he's lost 14 villagers and it just looks so calm right now.
He is, you think pig thinks this is an even game
because we see the idle TC time from Grubbit at seven minutes.
I think so.
I think he watched that ATREAL game yesterday.
Yeah.
And I think he knows how much that this type of strategy costs.
He also killed the two villagers forward too.
Yeah.
He's gonna benefit from seeing the score
in his favor as well, I think.
Like just mentally, right?
Like, even though, you know,
He took a lot of damage, at least.
I would look at that and fall back on, okay, I did something right, like something went
well for me there, even if I couldn't identify exactly what it was, right?
Yeah.
And it's not a 200 point lead.
Double stable from Grubby.
He's up 600 points, by the way.
This is like a legitimate score lead.
Double stable from Grubby.
That's the casual age.
I love that.
Yep.
Great play from Grubby.
And Pig will be hard committed over there with his scouts to the archer ranges, so.
Pig's a lot of farms, by the way.
Probably won't make more archers.
transition from here for the Vietnamese and I know he knows about he's been
playing quite a lot of fire Lancers recently he knows how strong they are in
tonight the problem though for Peg is that he doesn't need that much food for
fire Lancers so there's a question is whether he's going to be able to take
some of the letters off of food onto the gold and really set up the fire
Lancer skirm composition that he needs right now it's the best composition
you can play and it's really good into what grubby's doing. Higgs scouts the
two stables by the way so he knows what's coming let's see if he adapts to it.
you to go and tap that stable there Grubby at 97% stable with the Jeff Scrummarshers.
Do it for us Grubby, come on, do it for us men.
Grab that hammer, get to work.
It's what you said that EcoBalance, because with what he wants to make and what Grubby
wants to make, I think it would be fine if they flip their EcoBalance right now.
It's like Grubby has the eco to produce fire lances and Pig has the eco to produce knights.
He has 6 archers and they are forward but they are about to get found by these scouts
in this moment.
He's going for the crossbow and the bodkin.
He wants to get more damage as opposed to being alerted to it.
Pig no stone for tower and the scourge for the armor upgrade on cavalry.
There's a real possibility that this timing push from Grubby will kill Pig.
He can't defend his gold right now at all.
He's got some skirmishers, but Crossbows with good kiting will beat this.
Grubby is not going to have any Crossbows left though.
He's going to have five right now.
If Pig gets a couple more lucky shots, he can potentially take this out.
I guess Pig is waiting for...
There it is.
A tower?
Yeah, that's really smart.
It's an expensive tower, but it's really good.
Grimisher's got to stay in defense though.
You're gonna lose a couple of villagers here.
He's already lost a couple of villagers, Dash.
He's used to it.
He's fine with it.
You're right.
He wants a few more.
He's got plenty of left.
All right, skirmisher defense here.
No fire Lancers.
It's gonna be cavalry.
I don't mind that either.
Skirm Knight, of course, a classic composition.
Way before all these new fire Lancer units came in.
We were playing Skirm Knight for 20 years
and completely happy with it.
Skirm Knight, of course,
fully upgraded for the Vietnamese.
Even tankier Skirm's on the table.
A great combo for them, of course.
One Knight from Grubby.
Not quite the crazy two stable play, but I mean it's enough to push back the skirmishers for now
We got ourselves a long game now
Like one of those crazy feudal age battles where you think one player is gonna get wiped and then it just kind of stabilizes, right?
Let's see how much damage grubby can do at the Knights
There are still a bunch of weak villagers in this eco from pig and he's got crossbows on the woodline behind too
Oh, yeah, it's just yeah
It's nasty. We have another 91% stable dash come on. Yeah
about sounds like what happened that both these players decided to leave unfinished stables in their
base I mean obviously pigs got bigger things to deal with right now right woodline getting harassed
by the crossbows the knights in the back line now he only has fetal age skirmishers in defense
it's not the right unit to be using now his gold's getting harassed as well I mean grubby's doing
a phenomenal job just hitting from all angles dude grubby's really good at this by the way
it's like the warcraft experience of fighting with different units harassing different villagers
Not fighting all the knights in one spot, he's killing a lot of villagers and idling even more.
He will get cleared up eventually but that's good value for the knights. Look at this.
Grubby, 15th villager lead, he's really pulled ahead here with the 2TC boom behind it.
Great, great play, great last few minutes for Grubby.
An excellent change-up in this game. It seemed like he was so all-in early.
And then at some point his mind kind of flipped when he added those stables.
He still has the archer-inges to produce from forward.
Now he's got the siege workshop and he's in his comfort zone with 2TCs behind.
It's also a classy move
It's a classy move that he only goes for a second TC. He's bringing a siege workshop forward
Right. He's taking a small advantage and now he's gonna he's gonna kind of
Balloon it with the eco, but he's not gonna completely let let off the gas and give pig
You know an opportunity to to boom back into the game
You know like this mega does just bringing one of it to the tower usually pros would wait to two or three
Of course you could repair it, but it's gonna cost you some golden sorry some wooden gold
It pig is just so resilient isn't he it's loses 10 villagers on one side pulls them to the other loses 10 there pulls them back
He's just constantly trying to get himself back out of the game. This is the score lead. This is crazy
Good counterattacks amazing counterattacks
Grubby doesn't see it, the camel passes right by it!
Oh my goodness, the camel!
The camel couldn't get the defense we needed, this is 10.
And he's losing his army forward here!
He's losing his army forward as well!
He's losing his villagers on the gold!
Dude, I mean out of nowhere, 10 plus eco kills.
He still has good pressure on the gold.
The whole team knows those mangles are doing...
Yeah, they are getting involved.
No, no, no, no, the knights are enough, bro, don't set the bills!
Losing one goal.
Look at the dice in Grubby's face!
Oh my god, they're under the T-Series now!
Killing everything!
Finally, he's realized Grubby's going to be kicking himself.
If he loses this game, he's going to look back to these knights
and just have nightmares about them.
Ten villagers dead, but a forward castle from Grubby.
Oh my goodness! A forward castle!
No way, the knights from Pig are there!
Just passing. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.
Oh my god.
moment because that is a get out of my game castle right there dude pig just
lost the game because you didn't realize you could have just killed 10
villagers that's crazy but he still has some army behind this grubby just gets a
miracle that pig didn't spot those but grubby's gonna go back what are we going
grubby
dude I think he's choked this game completely at such a nice speed he
stopped all the way to castle had a castle at home dude this is crazy pig
You can see that. Oh my god
You know what it is. I think he in that moment. He just really is like I'm I don't have gold
And he just really wanted to secure gold all of a sudden
Oh, no, it can't be the gold. I think it's just he didn't have army
He didn't have obviously he didn't want to throw the game fully. He wants to play it safe
I mean, I guess it kind of does secure some gold as well, but
Dude that was a bad two minutes for grubby really bad two minutes
He's still 20 villagers ahead though, like he's still 20 bills ahead, he's going to settle
in with the castle, the castle at least goes up, so he's got some defenses in this area,
he can go for the gold, the knights can get in on his wood line, but he should be fine
as Pig starts to expand his eco as well.
What elephant?
Like the what elephant mix in here, why not just put it on the siege workshop, let
that guy do his thing, second TC behind this one, quite a balanced approach to the
economy from both players just two PC not rushing to that third and pig all
things considered he's lost 31 villagers his economy looks kind of clean
I'm not gonna lie very balanced very solid he's already bringing in the second
relic as well that's good actually he's bringing in two at the same time
right now that presence of mind to go for the relics as well and again this
messy very very nice macro and and kind of mentals through this game from
pig picks a lot of skirmishers but no archers on the field for grubby so
These scrims are not the most useful. The elephants maybe can get something done.
Grabby has Tritels as an option from the castle if he wants it.
30c from him at the back, a nice quick wall to keep the knights out, with a monk pushing them away.
Yeah, so winning position for Grabby.
I think we would probably still all agree at this point with the Ville advantage, but at what point do you start to get
scared because of the Siv matchup, right? Like if you just let this game go on for too long.
Yeah, I think IMF is when the Sivmacher really starts to get really bad for Ethiopians. It's that IMF scrimmage you talked about, Dash, that's just a huge option that Ethiopians don't really have a good counter to.
For now, the Camels will push away the Knights, so like Grubby can kind of recover and stabilize here, but if this game goes to an even late game, the enemies have the Sivmage advantage quite clearly.
quite clearly. However, we did see Grubby win with a citizen advantage in late game in that game
once. Keep that in mind as the skirmishers walk in, but so far Pig is not really concerned about
late game. He wants to push and keep the pressure on. Like this, pick away at the woodlines, right?
That's Grubby's weakness right now. Yeah. He's got those two weirdo woodlines at the back.
There's that big one forward, but the castle doesn't really protect that that well.
You just forced him to panic, man. It's a random elephant. Yeah, it just goes in and
That elephant had a really funny life and I like that we made him but he didn't really accomplish anything.
Skirmishers do soft counter the camels, it's kind of like a situation where both can kill each other.
Villager does go down and overall the game is kind of stabilizing.
Grubby with more villagers but weaker economy in terms of the eco upgrades, at least slightly weaker.
He's also lost, like the res collected is way higher for Grubby but he's lost a lot more units as well.
Well, yeah, if you look at the KD so a lot of that res is just in the graveyard right now
Yeah, it's a good point. I keep that in mind
But efficiency of trades and grab you had some barracks by the way to that barracks does not excite me at all
I think you know show tells you already have a barracks for squires
I think he's miss adding a second one. He thinks he didn't have one. I believe
Things get messy yeah stage of a crazy game like this right you forget
that you had to make a barracks to make the archer ranges earlier.
He wants the upgrades for his showtels.
Ouch!
What is that siege workshop forward?
Yeah, horse collar.
He just got a horse collar.
I know it's late, Dash, but I'd actually rather see him pick it up now
than just forget about it all game, so it's really nasty.
But like, at least it's in now before like, the super late game.
It's not terrible.
We still have 20 builds.
Equalize the eco upgrades somewhat.
Pig always staying one or two ahead.
Grubby kind of reclaimed the middle map control with monks and camels, and dude, this game is an absolute banger so far.
This is kind of gearing up to be set of the tournament depending on how the remaining games are playing out.
Two Rangers at the back for Pig, looks like he's making his final imp transition here, and Dash, this is where we talked about the Vietnamese.
Imp Skirm, Arbalest, just really good options that Ethiopians have to do something crazy to navigate around.
Here's the Squires, the second Barracks was a mistake, so Grubby just put himself 175 wood behind just to not see that Barracks.
That's the fourth Relic coming in for Pig by the way.
Wow, 4-1 wow.
That's insane.
That's really good.
Really nice.
Unless the camels have something to say about it.
Camels?
Oh.
I think Grubby knows.
I think he saw it disappear from the map because he's also searching.
See, he has a monk going to where that Relic will.
Oh yeah, that's kind of true, but kind of misses that.
Well, now they're just passing, so yeah, maybe, maybe not, maybe just on a scouting
mission.
Who knows.
Either way, yeah, 4-Relic's going to be incredible.
He actually, Pig is sitting on the resources that he could click up right now.
I just don't know if he's just really thinking about dropping that second building and and and actually getting up
Yeah, the one thing I don't like about grubby's base is all of his wood is in that one area
Yes, pig were to go into cab arches or whatever and harass this grubby will have some serious issues and the other wood lines are very far away
Yeah, it's like it kind of a double sword having that long wood line really good for early game
But then they come in late game like the wood at the back is kind of
saturated, there's no more wood that you can really take, and so you're all on this middle woodline, which could be easily counter-playable,
but still, 70vills to 103, I feel like, grubby, if you can just kind of get a nice middle foothold with a stronger economy.
This is a great position. Castle 4 though.
This is like that castle from game 1.
Bro, it's one villager.
It's a 20 villager.
One villager.
He's got more coming in to help out.
But it is...
Dude, Pig?
Funny take is missing his buildings for him. He's rushing to university with one villager. Oh my goodness, dude
We need this yesterday. We've got he's not rushing that. Yeah, there's no rush about the government job, bro
That's gonna be done in eight months
By a week and by one week villager, right?
This is good wall though on the castle here from grubby
Just to make sure that he can't get it up because the only thing that's threatening it is those nights. Yeah
Yeah.
The pig is using a monk to dodge ballistics and keep him alive.
That's ridiculous.
There's no ballistics in, but there's two monks coming in.
This castle could get denied, by the way.
Two conversions, maybe?
Imposite for Grubby, though.
Yeah, I think it's going to go up.
Oh my god.
Pig will go for it.
You know what?
He goes for a countercastle over here.
It's not going to be in time to deny that, but it should be in a good position
to get trebs coming out.
Finally, Impure Lich comes in.
Yeah, dude.
But in for Grubby faster as a crime, like we had the resources in for Pig a long time ago.
Finally, Town Watch coming in just to give a little bit of extra vision.
We'll take a look at how that does for his vision game.
Grubby's got full middle map control for no reason, by the way.
We have so many ranges that Grubby, or sorry, that Pig can just produce from, and he's not really going for that.
I feel like Grubby has a really good window to just go for the middle.
I don't like the Cavartres here at all, actually.
Cavartres are sneaking into Grubby's base, though.
If they sit in between those two TC's, this could be really, really solid.
Grubby now stretching out to the center of the map, like you said.
Very orderly archer range set up, actually.
That's very pleasing, the way that he's built those.
I was talking about this.
Noobs and pros make their archer ranges like this.
The mid ELOS make them in like crazy positions.
Oh, yeah. Didn't really care about that.
It's that classic belcher.
Those chateaux raids as well constantly.
Grubby has this thing about him where he constantly just raids a little bit like just one or two units
You'll always do this just to keep his opponent thinking and not let him have like that free game and that passive
Kind of set up a nice cabber just in the back though, you know pig with ballistics here. These guys are scary
This is a minor thing, but I'm pretty sure pig
Targeted grubby's castle with his castle, right?
Because otherwise every time a showtel would come out his turn his castle would retarget onto it
And he has ballistics
He would pretty much kill every showtel that's been produced by Castle alone and instead
All those arrows are going into the castle of of grubby. Yeah royal airs coming in from grubby. Does he go showtels?
I don't like I mean it will help against the cab archers a little bit, right? Yeah, it's not bad
But I don't really like showtels as their main army
I feel like honestly, we don't see scrims on the field
Just literally go our bless here like we don't see scrims. He's he's gonna our bless
Maybe he plays Arblest plus Shorthalus, double gold comp, a bit dicey because he doesn't have the relics, of course 4 for Pig.
Pig's going to go for a castle defensively here. We haven't talked about the Wrath and Archer as a possibility for Pig, but it is a really good anti-Archer from the castle if he wants to go for that.
But Pig so far, only cow archers. I haven't really seen his Imperial Age game plan.
And if it's going to be cow archers, it's not really the best in E.T. Open Arbs.
You go in skirm, you go like in skirm halibright to push this back initially and then figure
it out from there.
A lot of production for Grubby, I love this level of production from those beautiful ranges
up at the front and he's going to start to overwhelm.
Pig needs to finish that castle on the left and needs to get all of his upgrades in if
he's going to hard commit.
Yeah, I believe in Trembler.
Trembler on the bottom, Pig faster with his Trevor shade despite Grubby having faster
Yeah, the numbers are just overall there right now for Grubby as compared to Pig. Pig also having to deal with pressure from two different sides. It does look like he's going to deal with this castle from Grubby though as he's got two trebuchets out.
Grubby's gonna have a lot more control with 40 extra villagers. I see him as the leading favorite for this game
Yeah, the numbers are just overall there right now for Grubby as compared to pig pig also having to deal with pressure from two different sides
It does look like he's gonna deal with this castle from Grubby though as he's got two trebuchets out onto the field
Dude dash because you right-click the castle
He's also not hitting these villagers repairing because you right-click the castle is a castle do that one click
this cost pig so much and he doesn't even realize it right now armor coming in
though for the cowlarsher's it's gonna be good for the skirmishers as well walked
past the Maginot shock and make sure it works that it's of course imperialist
army ruby with our bless to try and test it if you have an arbs where's the
imp skirm
that's the sound from grubby the trev is still working way on that castle
from pig though so it could still fall yeah only two of those repairing the
castle will die to the trev unless pig can react to this doesn't seem
like it's his priority though he's on the map with the cow archers we're not
seeing a skirmish of production only now actually imp skirm tech is beautiful we
need to see that come through if that comes through I favor pig's position a
lot but if you forgets about it which is a very real thing then I'm not sure if
I like his position all the castle went down from pig against one treb
little imperial skirm is coming in right now but you know this whole
Watching in dude. I love that. He just is the whole he just needs to hold she into a tower though
This might be a little bit ambitious here from grubby. Yeah full armor on the skirmishers by the way Vietnamese scrims even without mScrub upgrade
They're still tanky grubby goes in way too deep. He's got a back out loses a lot of expensive Arbalest these costs gold
Remember that it doesn't have the relics as well only one relic for grubby
Scorley does neck and neck and ladies and gents you have 30,000 plus viewers watching this game right now
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Of course, Imperial Lich now, a big battle going out between the Skirms and the Arblest.
This is no match though.
Arblest cannot fight these Impskirms at all.
We also have to surround him at the back again.
Nothing.
Yes!
Over that gold over there!
Do not lose your Trebs right now!
He's actually repairing.
He might kill these Trebs from Pig in the long term if Pig doesn't realize.
Because obviously he's more concerned with the front of his base.
Does deal with that battering ram.
He does have imperial skirmish rain. Are we finally turning that corner guys?
It's a very nice raid again from pig at the back is so nice. It's just a constant constant pressure there
Elephants are being added in one of them goes over for that trebby tries to quick wall the trip against the elephant
And it's too distraughty with the villagers. Oh
My goodness, this is too funny
The wall is gonna maybe tank some of the strip shots
No, not quite that that will work on that dead wall and he's gonna go for that trap
But more importantly maybe on the front here the mscrums are pushing back the arbalest
They're also diving it off that ballboard beautiful play with from pig these mscrums are really living up to the name three elephants
Diving the siege as well dude pig is killing it pig is killing it right now
I think this probably with repair though. You kind of get the sense that grumby's maybe crumbling a little bit here
He's losing the trip over on the right side still trying to repair it with that villager lots of arbalest going down
His ego is looking a little frazzled as well as Pig comes in with skirmisher raids.
We talked about the elite skirm and the imp skirm from Vietnamese from the very start
of the game.
It's been the cornerstone of the matchup really.
Grubby was very aware, he's played this matchup a ton on the ladder, very aware
of how strong this is.
Tried the end of the game early, Pig's resilience has brought him to the slave
game.
Chotel's on the field though, sniping a trebuchet, huge to buy some time
for Grubby.
even though I feel like in the lake in here with the relics pig is heavily
favored still a messy game favorite should be favored but his base is kind
of falling apart right you lost the castle on the right-hand side he's lost
the TC so there's not a lot of safety for villagers he was struggling now to
find some wood as the showtels are making quick work of all those
villagers yeah paper money it's a good upgrade it's gonna make his lumber
checks generate gold passively as they chop wood it's decent chat loves paper
money like every time everybody comes in the chat like oh my god he got paper
money but it's really not that huge of a deal it is nice to pick up though and pay
kind of setting up that late game kudos to him he loses another bomber can
oh as soon as this cast goes down grubby is gonna be wide open through the
center yeah so his pressure coming in on the sides with the scurns and there's
that wood situation we've been talking about here that woodline is
running out and then where does he go oh my god it's a traffic jam the villagers
looking for a home a lot of them homeless even like nothing up top it's a bear in
top side there is like a small sneaky woodland the corner grubby kind of
sees a kind of sees the stone as well it's got some options that the rates
from pig have been pretty solid and now the bombers and pig pushing down the
center pig with a cast of the corner like dude pig is pushing the win for
pig I can't believe it what a defense from him early in the mid game in the
late game he's just held and held and held and now he's got his composition ready to go.
Yeah, Imskirm, Bombards, he's hacking into Light Cab, he's got some elephants dude.
Pig is really showing off for the series. Don't rush it though, we got that when he
late game, we got the relics. I'd like to see him control this left side hill as well.
We have a little bit of a pause. Just kind of let the anticipation simmer here.
What a game it's been, what a series it's been so far.
Yeah, drink it.
This is air conditioner is off. I can't imagine playing a sweaty game like this with the AC
This is sweaty in game and out dude the Michael the grubby doing
Holy need that AC of course cool it down
I'm actually like taking a moment to just like to look at pigs base and again
I'm just wildly impressed under all this pressure the expansion that he did to the left-hand side of the map
And Grubby never did. He went through the center, but now he's been pushed off the castle. He was taking pigs stone
He was taking pigs gold. He wasn't really looking for outside resources on his own side of the map
And he's wide open on that wood line, man
Dude, yeah, this is for Lenten disaster
But and a huge problem actually over the next few minutes
But Grubby tried an expansion down bottom, but it kind of just got cleared out
It was more like an aggressive expansion rather than castles on the hill like he had that choice
So maybe Grubby, you know next time around won't go so far forward as expansion
Just cast on the hill could have actually secured him more of the map something to consider for next time
It was just desperate to win the game before Impsgrim set the field kind of hard to blame him
But listen pig slow pushing down the center clearing the production
Grubby preparing light calf
We do have his SARS for Ethiopians if he wants to go for them, but missing armor
They're not gonna be the most impressive the stars in the game. I
Love this from Piggy's looking on the left side. He went for an outpost so he can see the skirmish come in
He sends the light cab to the neutral gold in the south so he's gonna kill the villagers there from grubby
And he has a monk seeing this mass migration of villagers from grubby if he notices it over on the right side too
Yeah, that monk is standing on business right now, and I think these like ever already in prime position to continue rating those bills
Let's see what happens. Wow
Grubby. Oh grubby miss positions a little bit or is it on purpose? He's gonna take the hill
It's gonna wrap around take the hill
Doesn't want to get trapped in here from pig. They're gonna meet up. Did they even notice I?
Have a party and grubby's gonna try and force this tower up
I imagine although right now the bills are just passed on to the gold and so instead this light cab is gonna feast on the right-hand side
It's a disaster grubby. It's a disaster for grubby over here
And they look on a zoom business call and
Waiting see what's going on that one like I was doing more than more than his paycheck
deserves I think but look at the middle of the map man big push grubby's gonna
lose the castle yeah they'll open this base up like a can opener dude it just
go right through the middle and grubby tried something just like all of his
production he tried to position on a hill tried something like maneuver around
this this force that pig has had outside of his base but he kind of got
caught out on that and there's just too much like have your kind of like
pressure from pig the relic is out there for the taking as well the
rogue show cows are not gonna help what a game pig goes up to one against the
favorite of the tournament. What a performance from Pig. If you think back to Grubby in futile age,
he had that sneaky two ranges. Pig lost like 15 villagers in futile to see this snapshot of a total
domination from Pig is wild. What a game, potentially game of the tournament. He was like
one of those punching bags. You punch it and it bounces right back up at you. Again,
it's like the whole game. Grubby just kept punching and punching and punching
and Pig just bouncing back up and eventually Grubby got tired.
Yeah, he just got tired and he couldn't do the damage. It's crazy
I'm going all the way back to feudal age and what Dave called it the rewalling the
Constant rewalling if he if if even like one of those instances of rewalling doesn't happen
He gets overwhelmed the the presence of mine
Cuz I think it's so easy in that panic to just evacuate the area and get away from the danger as opposed to
moving forward, using those villagers, getting the walls up constantly, buying
yourself that time so you eventually get enough of the counter unit, the skirmishers
on, and like I thought Pig was doomed with his start with the lack of wood, with
the you know with the lack of military buildings early, but just I mean the
resilience that this guy has shown across all of the game so far is
stunning. By the way, take a look at the eco-AD at the end of the game, 77 to
76, so in the end Pig lost one more villager. Pig killed one more villager compared to Grubby
Which is hilarious because it's like he turned back every stat that Grubby had on him just by even one
And that's of course, thanks to the like have down bottom thanks to the expansions that he was doing
I mean such a fantastic game this felt like a pro game by the way in a lot of ways
So it really really big props to both players. They're just showing up. Oh
Man
Okay, what now? How do you how do you reset and go into the next game after something like that?
But, you stole the question from there, yeah, I mean it's Krabby's home map, but like, we've kind of talked about how
pig is probably more comfortable on close maps, right? And so at this point, you've lost on Arabia, you've lost on
Regicide Fortress, do you choose to just go for arena to switch things up, but knowing that maybe you're playing into an even better map for your opponent?
Uh...
Grubby, are you taking a minute to think about this next match?
I gave them the go-ahead that they can just go.
I need a small bathroom break here, so Dave and Dash, you guys don't mind just filling
in some commentary here.
You have the cams on screen and see what they decide to go for.
I'll be right back in just a minute.
Oh, Dave, I don't know.
I don't know what to talk about.
Oh, dude, I don't know if we've ever been asked to fill time before, dude.
Should we like...
Should we do an ad first?
No, no, no.
No, there's a bunch of new people here dude, they don't know that.
That joke goes over so many people's heads, but those who know know.
Oh, too funny.
Too funny.
I mean, dude, I'm having a blast with this series just because it has subverted my expectations.
Now, admittedly, I didn't really get to see any of Pig's ladder grind.
You know, I was, you know, poking in and out of some streams and so grubby, sing, sing,
uh, you know, ATRX, these are guys that I maybe saw a little bit more of.
And I mean, pig though, it has just the, I think more than anything, what we've talked
about is like, even in these panic situations, you'll see the panic for a moment.
I think it'd be so easy at this level to just, just type GG and get out and move
on.
And the fact that he just, like you say, he just kind of springs back up, you
know, after getting punched in the face, time and time again, it's so impressive.
I wish I had that kind of mentality.
I played against so many people at this same rating with my controller account.
And when you get damaged like that crazy on or crazy early, rather people panic.
And like you said, and people crumble and they resigned and they rage quit and
they, they talk so much smack to you.
And I have to almost go back and watch the mod and see if he's just chilling or if he's
hyperventilating at the same time.
That's true.
I do really kind of want to see it from there.
I'm not paying attention to their faces or cams or anything like that and I would love
to see kind of at certain moments, you know, the look on his face and how he's finding
composer.
We're from the chat, by the way.
I think he has fulfilling.
Someone's saying Pig worked with survivalists last night and for a few hours on only his macro and build order
So pig even into the last second has been kind of grinding out some builds
Really taking the serious thing trying to come up with the best plan to take on grubby here
It's really paid off. Whatever work he's done is paid off for sure
Well, how about that actually I'm reading from your chat as well pig plays erg in Starcraft 2
So he knows about losing workers being part of the macro cycle
It's actually again, like that's something that I think is hard for newer players to understand because they're taught the importance of economy and villagers
You know like it's one of the first things you learn in Age of Empires
But sometimes that can lead to you like over protecting them right doing doing
More than you need to to try and like save them as opposed to using them
You know or understanding that like in a card game for example
Like health is a resource that you can spend as long as you don't die, right?
And so, like, villagers, you can expend them, not for no reason, but they are something that
it's okay to lose as long as you're getting something in return.
Yeah, there's a bit of a storyline, by the way.
It's a bit of a Starcraft vs. Warcraft storyline.
We saw that a bit earlier in some of the Thermals games.
We saw that in some of the other guys, like Loco, representing the Starcraft community.
We had Knopf representing the Warcraft community.
And we're seeing it now with Grubby and Pig.
I know we have a lot of people in the chat.
people of course a with you fanatics but a lot of people are here supporting the
starcraft guys and a lot of people are supporting the warcraft guys so it's nice
to see like warcraft versus starcraft background and it's been back and forth
honestly you guys are both elites which is kind of cool to see.
I'm hearing some allegations that you snuck off to the bathroom to call
Grebby.
I called them from the bathroom like I usually do a little small call I
Have to just give him a little pep talk no coaching or anything just kind of all psychological all mental
By the way if take wins his next game. He's disqualified. All right grubby's moving on for sure
I make that clear for everyone
My turn to make the rules none of this pig upset shit grubby's moving on. Let's see though. I
Can't even believe to like the series that we have ahead of us
Yeah, let's talk about that a little bit.
Like, to think that, right, yeah, like, think about the players you're still in, like the
winner of this moves on to face Captain Lance, that's going to be epic.
We still have Uthermo versus Wagamama, loser of this drops down to play Knoff, like there
are still so many heavy hitters and so many good matchups in front of us.
By the way, if Grubby loses this to Pig, Grubby and Uthermo with a top two yellows
on the ranked ladder, one of them will die for sure by the time Luzer Brackett
semifinal comes around even if it'll get upset earlier. So there's like a lot of
stay here. Pig getting this upset will be huge for the tournaments and even if
Grubby makes it through of course it's still got Captain Lance in that upper
bracket final. Of course tomorrow we have the four finals. We're gonna have okay
I have the loser bracket semifinal tomorrow then the loser bracket final
upper bracket final and of course the final the grand final. So four matches
the best of five tomorrow will be played. Still a lot of sets ahead of
us and a lot of really good matchups here. These are the top six though.
So the top six players in the tournament right now that we're watching it's it's pretty wild to think that if
If grabby loses this he has to play his orc brethren in Knoth. Oh true
Yes, the orc v orc Warcraft 3 bros have to go up against each other for elimination
Yeah, and welcome mama representing the Dota community as well
He's the last man standing it took on his Dota 2 brethren as well and sing sing
So it's really cool following the different games the captain Lance representing
Path of Exile on his own and he's got a solo carrying
So shout out to Catalanus keeping that community involved.
Slyfish thinks that a 10 gifted, Dereja earlier thinks that a 20 gifted as well.
Appreciate all the subs and support, all the followers,
even the people just watching the stream, you guys are all legends,
making this tournament a huge success and you guys are the reason we're doing this.
So let's see, I think Grubby now, it's his home map.
They've taken a little bit of a break, but I see on the camps
that they're both back and locked in.
I feel like the game could have just started.
Yeah, it has started.
It's Arena. Oh my God.
Grubby's picked Arena.
Yeah, it happens.
Like you said, Hera, earlier, Burgunians, Bohemians, and we know the storyline between
these SIVs, right?
Grubby's going to play Meta, and Pig is probably just going to try and get his 4TC set up,
go in and then push Grubby back.
We'll see if he can do it again.
It's a little bit of camera work on my end.
Dash, take it away, man.
I mean, Bohemians, Burgunians, the matchup we've seen already, right?
And so if these players have been paying attention to the way that previous series have gone,
I'm curious if they've learned anything from it.
I still expect Pig to be the aggressor in this matchup.
Just as, you know, Rubby tried, I think, to switch things up on that Arabia, but it's
not his tendency, and particularly on Arena with Burgundians.
He feels very practiced and kind of going for that very economy-focused, relic-focused
approach.
And so I think the question just becomes, how can Pig disrupt that?
Um, I'll tell you, as he ages, and is it fast in?
I'll tell you what Pig does on this map.
He's been doing a lot.
I've actually been watching a lot of late night Pig streaming Perfect for my time zone.
He likes to do, it's something a little unorthodox, he likes to do a castle defensively with
the Bohemians, a few of his sight wagons to contest the relics, counter the light
cap opening that Grubby usually likes to do, and then he just booms behind it.
It's not an all-in build, like something like Captain Lance would cook up, where he'd
go like Castle at home, or maybe even Castle forward.
It's just a Castle at home, Relic control, and just a boom, straight into the Bohemian
leggame comp.
For the viewers at home, the Bohemian leggame comp is widely considered to be the best
leggame comp in Age of Empires 2.
It's a Hoofnies, Halberdier, and maybe some Hankinators mixed in there.
Very powerful, should he get there.
He's gonna have a good advantage.
Grubby though, with the Burgundians, it's an eco-based civilization, and it's
a relic-based civilization.
They get food for the relic, not just gold.
Grubby likely to go light cap and contest the relics try to snag maybe four or five for himself and pig
Like I said likely to play towards the inside wagon. So that's kind of what you expect strategically from both players
It's it's a matchup that gets better for bohemians the later the game goes
Which is critical here unless you can starve them out of gold, which is the game plan with grabbing those relics early
And getting Burgundian vineyards, which is the unique tech for Burgundians
It gives them a little bit gold from the farms
Yeah, he will play towards that, but he still has to hit a timing if he can't deny all of the relics if he can't deny the
Golds forward on on pig space and pig is allowed to get into all of his tech
Technologies it's gonna be a problem for grubby. It's definitely gonna be an issue and you we've seen pig
With the late game armies be pretty successful, right?
Yeah, dude. He said a good late game like grubby. Maybe that game one kind of out micro macroed him in the late game
outrinded him, but Pig didn't seem weak at all. I think he's forgotten some upgrades,
potential first game of the day, Nervous as well, but Pig is like a game that is by no means
like anything weaker than Grubby's, or not much weaker than Grubby's at least, and also Pig's
bohemian is his main civ. He's put in a lot of games on Arena bohemians. To be fair,
so has Grubby from Burgundians, but I do expect to be seeing a prime Pig here with the
behemoths. One major difference in the Dark Ages, Grubby took the time to push in his deer
before going out to scout. Pig did not push in any deer. He might be coming back now with
the scout to do that. Grubby also did not snag two of his geese. They're just sitting
there. I'm sure he'll grab them at some point maybe with those villagers that are
building the mill, but just don't want to forget those. He'll be wondering why you're
missing some food later. They kind of blend in with the snow though. Maybe he doesn't
see him bro. He needs that no snow mod. I'm looking at a no snow mod and they're like super
super visible. He's got that snow. It could be a little tricky. By the way, I'm getting a comment
from the chat. Pig has never played wool on the ladder. That was a hidden strategy and it
prepared Ziv for that first win. That is survivalist 100% right? Yeah, that's that
coaching fashion. Sick, but I love to see that like part of my vision for this term
was having the pro players come in and coach these guys up obviously the knowledge gap was going to be
the big problem for them learning like 53 saves also how to play the game but the coaches coming in
and showing them some cool strategies has been a pinnacle to making this tournament a success and
dude shout out to survivalist putting in those late night hours with pig love to see that
oh wait survivalist says i will take no credit for woo that was all pig
Oh wait what?
No, no
That's a drip that's dr. Agastar's death dr. Agastar that dragon sir also coach mr.
Llama on the karem at Ram did not we got some sneaky coaches it could have been pig listen
I don't want to credit away from pig maybe he's come up with it
But there are some sneaky coaches don't disrespect the doctor like that
Wow survival is saying that he coached pig though for about 30 hours probably that
That's amazing.
That's dedication.
Shadows of wireless man, love it.
Eudel, 22ville, Fetal Age for Pig?
Yeah, that's fast, no?
No, I think he's a bit fast.
Oh, that's fast?
Oh, he's already going on the stone right now.
Oh my goodness, he ended this fast.
That's an all-in build.
That's not the defensive castle.
That's three on wood, it's all in.
Oh my God, oh my God, he's in all in it.
With wagons.
That's something he's never shown.
I think he'll make it forward, yes.
forward okay because I've watched a lot of pig and and the bill to do that home
was always later than 23 this is looking like an all-in-build he's adapted it for
grubby specifically taking advantage of the fact that we're guardians typically
up a little later grubby just now click the feudal he's like a minute and a half
behind minute 40 seconds dude pigs and all in this one that's crazy and pigs
should have enough food maybe he has to buy under food no he should be good
Actually, he's got still one turkey left over a goose or whatever. He's still got some berries
It's gonna build a mark in the blacksmith at the back here not grabbing loom
Because this build is so tight, but that could be a potential talking point later if he comes forward
No, no, okay. No loom. I think you keep it at home
But still that that will just like the all-in build I feel maybe I'm maybe I'm would just walk them
But I don't know no, I
I think you're right that it's the all-on builds. I think it could bite him that he's not going for for loom
It's just about whether or not this grubby actually produce any military before hitting castle edge, right?
Like he's got the barracks down, so he's prepared to drop his stable
as one of his
castle edge buildings, but
Will he actually get scouts out onto the field before that those bills come forward listen dash?
It's not about saving your villagers. It's about sending a message, okay?
But we've learned anything from Pigeon, not about passing villagers.
Oh yeah, true.
This guy will throw away 15 villagers to get that castle up and get the pressure going, man.
That's what we've learned about him.
I will say, though, the three farms is looking increasingly like a defensive castle.
So I think maybe I was getting too much into that faster uptime.
Still, there is a chance he descends it forward, but, you know, what he's practiced is the defensive castle.
So if he does that, I'm almost more excited to see the defensive castle,
I want to see if what he's practiced is actually good enough to take down grubby's Burgundians grubby with a stable market build
That's exactly what he's practiced with the Burgundians
They like to go like have to control the map grab those relics
We already talked about why Burgundians want the relics early and grubby a little bit later to castlage
But that's kind of standard and so it's nothing out of the ordinary
You're not gonna send the bills at least make a house, please pick true
I hate this when you have all day you're going up and you're not really doing anything, right?
And then you get to the castle age and you realize you can't make anything cuz you don't have a house. Yeah, that's true
If he's not out with the villas it's a defensive castle for sure, but Dave like you said there's no house
He's gonna get house. That's gonna be nasty. It's not a game-looting mistake, but my god. I just no no
There's the house
Yeah, we don't really want loom because we don't want it. We're staying home
That's when you'll get it, if he ended up cast, but house is coming up just a little bit of idle TC time as a result.
Not too bad.
The village just starts producing again.
Castle up?
Alright.
Defensive.
Rubby would not have had the scouts in time, by the way.
Yeah.
Yeah, to stop the castle.
I know.
If you just sent it forward, some Yamato style, especially if you just sent 12 villagers, even if the first scout's out, you can just get the castle up.
But it just wasn't Pig's style and it's not what he practiced, so I'm actually completely fine with him just doing it at home
By the way, nice little adaptation from Pig
He's doing the castle behind where the scout within scout
So even if Grubby sticks to these walls and looks as deep as you can, he won't see the castle
So Grubby is maybe thinking Pig is booming only and nothing more
Yeah, I don't even think he sees the monastery at one tile away. Yeah
So, Grabber's gonna kill you in the dark here. 30 seconds to cast this for him.
Pig will go for a few Hussite wagons, looking to play for those relics, so it's not a pure boom for him.
Notice there's no extra town sinners right now.
He's gonna slowly get back on that stone, looking to get back to 100 and go for extra town sinners.
But for now, he's more than happy to play towards that Hussite wagon-mong combo.
Let me just tell you a little bit something about Bohemians. They get the free gold upgrades,
and the free stone upgrades, they get both of them, for free.
So normally they have to pay for both, wait for them to come in.
in but he means don't do any of that they just get them for free with the
civilization bonus
reveal the house that wagon oh my god he is inside with a scouts that is a
mistake I think from yeah is it not unless he steps the muck I think it's a
mistake but step in the muck is good pick and block block that's worth it for
grubby probably she also gets information right yeah he now knows that
it's hussai wagons castle plus monastery he can continue to scout the back of
base. He'll see that no extra TC's are up just yet. Knowing that at home he's dropping
two extra TC's, so.
Sick, yep.
Already poised to, you know, be in the eco lead just due to being Burgundian's villager
count about to explode, though he's housed as well right now, so getting the house up
as quickly as he possibly can.
I do like they snipped that monk by the way because that's going to slow down Pig's
first relic, and that first relic is usually just a free one before the scouts
are really in position. So now like the scouts are now in position, the next monk that
comes out has to really be careful. The Hussetwagens could of course push back against
the scout cavalry but they don't have that same mobility like a sight wagon is quite slow
not that slow not like a manganale but still quite significant slower than a scout cavalry
nice pig notices probably trying to keep track of these monks but the
hussite wagons like you said they're just too slow yeah they can't catch up they can guard
but they cannot chase oh my god oh my god come on dude dude hello what grab me both players
Hello? Hello, players. Hello? Huh? Huh? No, no pig drew that up. Dude. He did the math
Do you saw the line of sight on the scout? He absolutely just weaseled his way through there
And he's gonna draw the scouts into the lense wagon. He's like I'll bring it to you truce
Grab against that this one you might lose a scout for it though
It's a loych me scouts. Oh sniped by pig
Hey, one scout goes down another monk trying to get away with a relic here on the bottom side of the map
but Grubby doing a great job of continuing to scout out. Will he notice that this relic is picked up?
Dude, how is he still over here with these scouts looking for this relic?
Oh, he just took the relic. He's trying to sneak that in. Will Grubby be able to get him?
No, I don't think so. But to be fair, meanwhile Grubby was actually picking up relics on his own.
He's picked up one. He's going to pick up a second one as well. So Grubby could have got that monk,
but it's kind of okay. He's more than happy to just take two relics since there's committal on
both sides by the way behind this grubby's got a nice villager lead so honestly advantage grubby as
the score suggests pig is still in a decent position but this is looking okay for grubby here
and i i saw you're amazing yeah the farms look at the farm count yeah so nice 32 farms placed
to 9 good good eco upgrades as well like look horse collar missing both saw missing
no real barrel 5 player but i mean grubby's economy upgrades are much better
And he got those cheaper in so looking okay for him
Yeah pigs gonna grab two relics which against Burgundians when they're playing into scouts is not the worst thing
They they get three you get two obviously it's not ideal
But there could be a situation where you don't even get one
Yeah, right if you're if your hussite wagons are too slow or their monks are sniping those so
Overall okay situation for pig better better situation for grubby
And neither player is that happy out of this opening, like Grubby's probably thinking like
I got three but wish I got four, Pig's like I got two wish I had three and overall I think
it's going to be a decent situation for both players now to scale up the late game.
Arena has this awkward moment now that the relics are gone you're just trying to, you
have army fighting for nothing because there's stone walls you can't really push onto those
walls so Pig's just going to chill out here with the Hesite Wagon so you could
of course use them to control the map, kind of patrol them around Grubby's walls
In fact, he should do that but it's not a whole lot to play for so both players will focus up on their economy further coming in
That's in a boost of the villagers movement speed for the Bohemians. Nice little unique tech there showing pigs mastery of the civilization
Yeah, very smart that alongside wheelbarrow is it is effectively an eco upgrade for your farmers since they move quicker
Just would like to see him spend that wood right. He's only sitting on 17 on food
I know that like his endgame composition might not use as much food as Burgundians
But right now you're gonna lose the race to the Imperial Age by a large margin
Yeah, I can do that was gonna happen though at least at least you make up for it somewhat by being able to research chemistry in
Castle age, you know, you're not losing out as on as much time as some other civilizations would
Yeah, we both just completed for bird part of the Burgundians and I want to see that handkerchief flick right away
Unfortunately, Grubby missed that timing, but usually we'll go into handkerchief right away for Burgundians
That's how you want to play them. University here, 3 TTCs only, so Grubby's playing towards a faster imp by the looks of things.
Look at him maybe punished the Bohemians greed, playing for those like Relic into Boom, kind of like that slower start.
If you just go for a faster imp on them, you could attack them before they get to the Hoopnitsa.
The one issue for Grubby is with the Hussetwagons on the field, like usually you'd want to get a forward-ish castle set up against Pink,
But there's a risk coming forward for that in this situation.
So he might have to go for a more defensively natured castle.
Saying that he's only has three on stone.
Like he's not even made that switch yet.
He's focused on him first.
I wouldn't mind that if he just sends like 10 bills to the castle now,
it's the stone.
Uh, cause I think you need a castle on arena to get that foothold.
You don't need it to push, but just having that foothold,
that little outpost of the castle feels really nice before you start that
push handcraft coming in to complete the economy upgrade,
complete the boom for Grubby and with a faster imp he gets first first move on the map basically
but Bohemians don't mind turtling for a while even fortified wall and turtle is kind of okay for him
yeah what are the compositions i mean grubby's kind of showing his hand with the archer range
coming up and the armor coming in that he's gonna be looking for hand cannons i assume
uh yeah probably he's kind of locked in with these legcaps and now the outposts on the side
too. Yeah, he loves it. He'll see him moving out. I love the outposts.
Grubby's such a vision guy because the one thing Grubby hates losing to is like, oh,
I just didn't see what he was doing. So I lost. So Grubby is like really trying to avoid that situation.
He thinks he just like, if you can have vision and he loses, he can learn from that game. But
if he just doesn't have vision, there's no learning happening. It's just like, oh,
unfortunate. I didn't know what he was doing. So Grubby kind of developed this heavy vision
style, which I think is really suiting him. He's making good decisions with that extra vision.
And I want to say as well, I've helped Grubby a lot with his Urmina and his Pergundians.
And one thing I did tell him is that the timings are really important.
So if you're getting to in faster, you've got to set up that push and you've got to really go out onto the map.
If you have the five relics, you can camp.
In this situation with three relics to two, he can choose to play defensive, but against the Bohemians,
I'd like to see him push that advantage two minutes and a half faster to impure lage.
Let's see what he can do with it.
I think chemistry click needs to happen right away and a few more villagers onto stone.
stone. He's sending the villagers now. He's definitely late to that castle for this timing,
but he's still got a good setup on the center of the map, right? All the technologies are coming in.
Unfortunately, loads up ballistics before chemistry. So that'll take some extra time as
a pure lage comes in for pig now. And chemistry is going to be in for him. So the timing advantage
isn't even going to be that significant for Grubby. Dave, Grubby, cats of ballistics
to prioritize chemistry showing excise that he knows the place, dude. That's high level,
That's high-level. He's about every 30 seconds down chemistry chemistry for those who don't know allows them to make gunpowder
Essential to push onto these stone walls. You need Bobber cannons handkinner near it enables two units that grubby really wants for gun
Nians get gunpowder units that deal extra damage
So this chemistry crucial and he actually prioritizes it over the ballistics, which is a really good move for himself
How can that be that really that big of a deal and it's like that takes the sunk cost fallacy there of how much time
He'd already invested in the blitzx upgrade and the presence of mine knowing that upon hitting amp how much more important chemistry is
That's a that's a pretty pro can't move right there to cancel that now
We have the siege workshop coming up in the center of the map just in time to start producing those bombard cannons
Probably gonna look to pressure one thing. I don't like to see these workshops from pig to yeah
Like pig is going to see rush from the front, but one thing I don't like about his game right now
Is that he's making both?
Halberd Gears and Archeryn is blind so like he obviously could expect Hissar he could expect Paladin from Grubby
But he actually just doesn't know compared to what Grubby's doing Grubby's got vision everywhere
He knows exactly what's coming out and he's taking first move
Like Pig is kind of defaulting to the composition was just okay
But I can see a world where he invests into Hal whereas Grubby is not making any cab in this situation
I think he kind of lucked out that Grubby is making cab worth mentioning though if Pig will play this map in the future
I do want to see more vision from him and I agree on that. I like the outpost forward from pig
Doesn't quite catch that castle, but it will see the bomber can coming forward
Yeah, I also will say that if pig stays this defensive and stays in his shell here and
Is patient enough to mass up the army comp from Bohemians?
There is a solid chance of him winning. I agree if he's patient enough and he gets that death ball
I just don't know if he's
aware of the full capability of the of the Bohemian late game. This setup, by the
way, that you're seeing Bragunians attacking Bohemians, Bragunians getting
that nice little timing window. This is not unusual even in pro games. This is
what typically happens in pro games. Bragunians gets the, you know, first
move on the map, but Bohemians have the better army composition if they get
their siege engineers coming in. A tech that Bragunians don't get access to
that's gonna be plus one range on the bombards and extra damage to the
buildings. It's a huge technical behemence.
It's one of the reasons they're so successful in the
Civ matchup late, right? Yes, that extra range. And then you
also get who needs on top of that. And fast. It's a triple
buff. Yes, it's insane. We also give the house I wagons
extra range. That is true. Yeah, if you want to commit to
the house I wagons long term, I don't think so. Because I
think he's already committed to the house. But yeah,
I always forget that cost stone now, like I still have the old price in my head, you know.
Kicking off some stone from the potential castle.
Albin the way is great to answer this hasar into Cavalier, I actually don't like that
Grubby's even considering Paladin here.
He doesn't really have all the gold control on the map like he's got some which is nice
But like pig can easily move out here and snag this one. He also doesn't have all the relics
I don't like the Paladin choice if you haven't set it up already. So I feel like
You know don't play into the behemoth halibut
I think just push with cannons and hand cannon here and really put your foot on the gas is what I want to see from grubby
It's fair. I'm already from pig and grubby is going up to the the Montessary
With the rocks in it. I like that there's a way there is a world in which grubby can maybe snipe when he's he's relics of thick
It's too distracted
Take three walls and
He's gonna cast a sorry dude. This is our rate. It's not it. It's not gonna do anything. This is terrible. Oh my god melted
throwing away pop rent yeah
Just I don't like the cab is going in this house. You need to meet so it's on the way in who needs it
It's on the way in but it's from that forward siege workshop Grubby actually might accidentally take that out
Canon be cannon fights on the gate right now
Remember these there's one extra range on all siege weapons that will humans have now compared to Burgundians
But a lot of hand can near the dual extra damage here for the Burgundians
Hussar have full upgrades now. So Hussar despite missing bloodlines, of course behind
the uh... the uh... we're going to go get that but still full of great terms of armor
attack
decent for setting siege big big engagements now in the front
pretty interesting paper pig
the bobber cannons are an attack and they're going out to the castle
it's going to find the result fight here for big as he's pushing forward pushing
grubby off the stone grubby though rotating around to the right-hand side
still doing big work
with his bombard cannons putting pressure on to this castle things gotta find a
way to deal with that siege
I like this from Grubby. You just fight in the front, buy time, trade, trade and whatnot, and in the meantime, he's still in the only castle that Pig has in his base.
Pig is of course expanding with the castle now, looking to kind of make a storyline of his own.
Push Grubby back and forth.
Is Grubby attacking the siege workshop? Does he go after the siege workshop? No.
It's too random.
Who thinks there's only 15 seconds away?
Yeah, it's too random. I don't think you'd think of that. Maybe he will now though?
No, not quite. It's going after the rangers, unfortunately.
Who thinks he's in?
Who thinks he comes in?
Big shots against the hand cannon is potentially incoming. Yeah, he's not paying
attention and just for the chat here who needs it is an upgrade on the bomber
cannon unique to the bohemians one of the reasons why they're so strong in the
late game it gives them extra splash damage extra damage and extra tankiness
very very good upgrade take a look at these bomber cannons now who eats it
from bohemians big shots on the bomber potentially but he loses to nice
snipes there from grubby oh my goodness that's that plus 10 by the way I'm
trapped with the villagers and villagers get involved is that plus 10
from the Burgundians that make them not one shot the who feeds but do a lot of
damage against them good control from grubby pig equal pop though this is a
really close game despite the score lead oh bomber tenant sacks from grubby
50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50.
He gets two!
Go!
Will he find a third?
He gets a third?
No, go be moved.
No!
Dodgeball, dodgeball.
Dodgeball.
Go play your saving there final cannon.
By the way, bomber cannon is very, very expensive,
most expensive land unit in the game.
So every cannon that goes down is a really, really big deal.
I don't think Pig realized how many villages
he lost there either on the sides and at the front.
He sounded 109 his population ever 150 repeat of game one right where he kind of sacked a number of villagers to get his expansion up and
Just never
Never recognized that fact never replaced him either way
He's still pushing back up to now for who needs on the front lines here. How it in for grubby. Okay, that's crazy
That's crazy. I don't like that at all. That's gonna sap all of us gold. That's that some bombards though
I don't what do the Paladin do differently than the Hussar here. You're not gonna beat the Halves anyways
I don't like the Paladin at all here. Pig has to kill his trap. He's about to lose a castle to a single trap
That's undefended. Wow. Yeah, that one villager is doing good work, but she can't hold the line against that one trip
Well done though. Well done. She gets a round of applause
Look at grubby's pop right now. 140
I mean, he's invested so much into Paladin, right?
Like, the Paladin transition is supposed to be a big play.
He's trying to set it up.
It only works if you just set up 40 Paladin, come in one shot.
But as long as Pig mixes into Halberdere, he's completely fine.
Pig though is missing upgrades on Halves, like in Game 1.
So Dasher is saying, it's not just the villagers that we're lacking right now, like in
Game 1, it's also the upgrades.
It's a repeat for Game 1.
Pig needs to get those, you know, just dock the eyes, cross the T's.
That's what we need from him right now.
His resources are just way more strapped.
He lost too many villagers early, but he's still pushing with the Hoopnitsa.
Grubby looking for big shots, he gets one.
Big bomber cannon mass, and the Hoopnitsa mass over there.
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh.
Come again.
Oh!
They're alive! They're alive!
Paladin's in, we show it with one Paladin.
Oh my god, we show the transition.
But the Hussar are looking for the cannons.
Repairs from Pink though. The presence of mine to repair is fantastic. Nice shot from Grubby though.
Big Shrine of Micros as well, and Sufnitsa, the Hussars trying to come in.
I don't think they're gonna be able to clear this. Great defense from Big to save those Sufnitsa.
Rendable. Incredible saving three of those.
Armor.
With the repairs, the Micros on the Helms, and we've got the armor coming in now.
Bro, bang your series here.
Pink's got more pop by the way.
He's also raiding a little bit with Halbedere as the Paladin are coming back to deal with that
Grubby trying to find solutions to this he thinks it might be Paladin
But there's so many bohemian helms and bohemian helms have more effects
Against the Paladin then they would from any other suit. They extra bonus damage. This is brutal
Snipe on the Hoopney too. Yeah, nice. They're not seeing out those bomber numbers very important
Oh two villagers taking that brute what force from the cannons
What is the gold? This is all the gold that Pig has I think right now is this fortile right?
Looks like it. It had the gold on the bottom that he's got kind of control over.
Bomber cannon? Dude, this is just dodgeball right now between Grubby and Pig. If someone
manages to clear the other Bomber cannon mass it's over.
A lot of cannon.
We don't have the halbs, we have 15 halbs. It's not enough. The cannon's behind this one. Grubby's looking for it.
The Paladins dive deep, Devon to raid the economy and like 20 in the front lines
This is looking really good for him, but Pig is managing it well so far
Think that could be the killing blow though
Just those five Paladins that are going to the back of the eco
They're gonna start to wreak havoc while the the meats are starting to go down
Some of them might be saved here by the halvediers
But it's an incredible stop of the momentum that he was starting to build getting out of his base
No villagers gonna be left on gold after this as well
Which means he's working essentially with trash units in the relic generation
generation losing more villages in the back down to 100 for the first time pop dropping below 120
And the raids and the can play on front great play from grubby
Yeah, five Paladin going into the back distracts so much
Opens the door for him to snipe the hoof needs in the front pig is falling apart here grubby's back up to 160 pop and pig
It's below 100. Yeah, now it's looking like critical numbers critical numbers for pig only 100 pops
Son of a- he's got to snipe the cannons, he's got to get back this population, but look at this
10 on food and 15 food on the bank, he's got no economy
it's complete poverty for Pig, he can't even remaster if he wanted to
Grubby still 160 pot tons of res in the bank
there's a bunch of food for gold as well, the fuel of Paladin
he's got 3,000 stone, come forward with some Kausers Grubby
And Pig will recover, we've seen him take damage before
we've seen him be fine, well fine in quotation marks, you know?
Yeah, this is fine. This is an outrageous amount of damage for the res bank that grubby has and the amount of units that he can
Send forward pretty soon grubby's back up to 140 bills now. It's a good reboot. Yeah, really good reboot
I'm done tons of stone in the bank. I really want to see some castles drop
You can just make them map control if you don't want to like commit to that forward
You know push position we saw death note in an earlier set
He had like six castles control in the center that was really cool something like that for grubby can be awesome
Architecture to really boost the buildings here. Grubby has played this one very very nicely and honestly the Paladin
I criticized a bit, but it kind of kind of paid off, which is cool to see it's momentum play, right?
Yeah, and he took advantage of it for sure
It's a terrible spot right now. Yeah, oh two cannons. You can't afford that. You cannot afford that
We don't have the gold. This is the only gold that he can take the cannons from Grubby are pushing in
We got hand cannons behind me as well. It's only trash for pigs
He's completely out of Golden Stone and the GG is called.
Oh my God, we have ourselves a game five.
Grubby equalizes, that's fantastic.
Holy.
Great play out of Grubby.
Two game fives in a row, man.
What a set this is.
So close on every single game it feels like.
Dude, like Grubby coming in the favorite for the set.
Pig taking the lead after that first game
that was quite close.
He wins two back-to-back Grubby equalizes on Urbina
in a meta matchup amongst pro games.
We'd love to see Burgundians and Bohemians play at this level.
This really felt like a pro game.
Some decisions could have been a bit better.
Maybe we're still missing some upgrades from Pig,
but overall, Wolf player has played a fantastic game four.
Grubby takes the win and we have a Cinema Game Five
coming up here.
It's going to be Pig's home map.
He's got Arabia or Arena that he can take us back to.
We've seen one and one.
We've seen two Arabias and one Arena.
Let's see what Pig decides for his home map now.
I think it's a great composure for Grubby there.
He just never felt like he was really questioned in that game, right?
How many sieves do they have in the chamber?
That's a good question.
How many comfort picks do they really have?
Because it's the best of five now.
We're on the game five.
We've already seen Grubby's two comfort picks on Arabia in the way and the Ethiopians.
I don't know as much about Pig's preferences for civs.
I only knew the Vietnamese, by the way.
I know the Vietnamese.
I've seen that time and time again.
I don't know what a second civ is.
Any viewers in the chat can give us an insight as to what pick and play we've seen the
way and the Ethiopians for Grubby in terms of Arabian civilizations.
He's got the Hindustani up his sleeve on both Arabia and Arena.
Chinese says Ballistica.
Yeah, Chinese.
I did hear him talk about that.
Very meta-sive as well.
So I think, Pig, one thing I talked to him about is that he's playing Bohemian, Chinese,
Arabia, Arena.
Those civs are like top tier meta.
And he was like one of the only players playing those civs and that's one of his
big advantages going into this tournament.
He's got some of the best civilizations available to him, which is great.
I'm surprised to hear Chinese though.
Just because they're so unique and therefore so different to play than any other sieve.
In terms of their timings, right?
In terms of, like, how you make transitions, because it's starting more veiled.
That's just surprising to me that in such a short period of time, at this skill level,
you'd even try.
Like, China needs to be like the last sieve, even knowing how strong they are that I
would try to whip into shape.
Well, that was one thing that, actually, Pig talked to me about.
He said, like, listen, how strong or how hard is the Chinese star?
Because he told me, he noticed the best save.
He expected everybody to jump on it.
So he was going to initially avoid it.
Then he saw nobody's playing the Chinese.
He asked me, like, how hard is the start?
And I was like, bro, it's not that hard.
But you can't first time a save.
So you have to invest time into it.
It used to be a lot harder.
Yeah, they made it easier.
But the main thing is to just invest time to the save.
Don't just first time it for the tournament.
And he's certainly done that by the looks of it.
I think the harder thing with Chinese is just transitions, right?
Because you don't have that one big power comp.
You kind of have to make a combination of two, three, four different things,
especially once you get late game.
It can be very difficult to master.
Uh, it's going to be Arabia.
We have the confirmation for pig, get some energy in the chat for a game five.
Arabia.
I absolutely love this.
This is a fantastic game file.
Let me just show the bracket here.
Uh, show you guys what exactly the players are playing for.
This is not the last set of the day.
although if it was, it'd be a banger, but it's actually not.
We see Grubby vs Pig game 5 right now.
Captain Lance waiting for the winner. That's going to be played tomorrow.
But whoever loses between Grubby and Pig has to play today.
Next up, we have Youth Thermal Wagamama.
And then finally, to end up the night, we're going to have Knoth vs whoever loses this game.
Which is, you know, a lot at stake because Knoth, very solid player in his own right,
can definitely look for the upset there.
Lobby is up, and we're waiting for them to get started with this game 5.
Shut up to Happy Leaves for making these go on the spec dashboard home page, eh?
Oh, it makes it so much easier for us.
Fantastic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, Dave, before that I wasn't using it.
I was like, give me the code, somebody give me the code, and then Roxy, I don't know
how she knew.
She was like, you can just go to the dashboard, click over here, check the tournament tab,
and I was like, oh, it's fantastic, you know?
Yeah.
It's great.
Makes it really easy.
15 hours from coming, the nine hour days so far, look up a set, sorry, go ahead, Dash,
please. No, I was going to say just on that front though of like community made stuff credit
to you and your team for the Kings Gauntlet website and like the latter, like all the
info you guys had. I mean, that whole website was spectacular. I'm constantly amazed and
impressed by the community built tools in Age of Empires. It's I mean, we're
using CapsRage, right? Like, you know, it's just the way that the scene has developed, both
from the player, you know, side from the tournament organization side and then from like the community
built tools. It's just such a special community.
Yeah, it really is. Honestly, I'd like to take credit for that, but it's all due to
the one guy, Debreje. He's in the chat right now. If you guys want to throw him some
love, he made the entire website. Let me show on screen. It's not really useful
right now, but for the latter race, this was like what I was checking every day
And it's just yeah, it's your point that just a fantastic website to track all the progress and shout out to BGMN
He killed it and he made this event even more special with such a well-built website
And that was where's the liquid Peter guys as well just kind of keeping the everything updated. It's all been so professional. I feel
Waiting for that game five merch giveaway when we did hit the sub goal for the merch giveaway
We'll do that probably tomorrow because tomorrow is going to be the grand final day
we'll do the merch giveaway then and
If we hit the sub goal of 9,000, which I think we're really close to be honest
We'll make sure that we have a second edition of the Kings garland set for next year
I think we already hit the goal of let me see if that's true. Did we hit the goal of 8,000?
Yeah, we did so it's a subathon confirmed if you're found in my content expect the subathon this year in
2026 that's confirmed. Thank you all for the sudden support subathon confirmed for 2026 more info on that
soon probably in September as I take a little bit of a break and have some
tournaments coming up. I would expect that later.
Chinese. Ooh. He did go for the Chinese, Hera.
I love it. I love it. Is it in? Is the game started?
Yes. Can't stop in here. Look for it.
Chinese, Vietnamese. So grubby on another comfort pig,
on a pig that a lot of people have avoided. He actually, he muscle
He also memorized his way into a house, but he canceled it in time.
I'm not getting the link here from the dashboard, so I'm going to have to find it.
What is the streamers tab?
And you can see.
Beautiful.
Oh, that's fantastic.
Oh, that's what it meant for the main page.
That's great.
Yeah, fantastic.
All right, going in here.
Grubby versus Pig, game five.
It's the Chinese, like you were saying, Dave.
Like the chat was saying.
Also, shout out to the chat for knowing about the Chinese, but welcome to number one. Game five,
Pegg with the Chinese, one of the best sieves, considered the best sieve amongst pros on Arabia, has a bit of a tricky start though.
Let's see if Pegg's mastery of the sieve can overcome that tricky start and get it into some of those really nice
Chinese savings up two bills from the start, if done correctly. Grubby with the Vietnamese though, something that he lost to earlier. Is that correct?
Yeah, he did lose to the Vietnamese early, and Scurms, of course, took out his Ethiopians.
He's rocking the Vietnamese himself, talking through the sieve matchup, Mr. Dash.
I mean, Siv matchup, I would personally, again, I think taking elo into account, I'm going
to favor the Vietnamese again.
I know that in the face of the Chinese, which have like infinite options, and that's kind
of the, their real, or like advantages of Siv, right, is that they can play most anything.
They've got solid upgrades, cheap upgrades.
So they have most everything available to them.
I think my concern is that, as you mentioned, you kind of want to play like a very
hybridized unit composition which could be hard to get into to find all the
techs and that's something we've actually seen Pig struggle with in other games
right is managing to pick up all the techs whereas Vietnamese I feel like you
know kind of exactly what you need to play into yeah and grubby will
ultimately feel very comfortable with this game extending into the late
game and doing what pig did to him and absolutely by the way 25 seconds out
of DC time on the Chinese that's actually very very good normally get
a little bit more than that. So that's a solid start for Pig. He's still up a
couple villagers and once Grubby gets loom, of course Chinese already have loom
right now, so once Grubby gets loom, it's an extra kind of villager up for Pig.
That's how you want to think about this Chinese start. They have some other
bonuses but that's the most relevant one right now. Like we said about that
dash though, the Vietnamese have been a clear game plan and also with the
addition of fire lenses recently, Vietnamese fire lenses are tankier and
they're very very good against what Chinese can go for usually like some
Some kind of calf skirm matchup.
The financer can shut that down.
The enemies have better skirm.
That deer is kind of trolling though.
Dude, I've been watching it, Maddie.
This is the second time around for the steer.
Ha ha ha, crummy.
There we go.
He pushed it off.
Nice.
How about these maps though?
The hills on the blight.
They're in craters, yeah.
Yeah, they're both in craters.
At least even in that regard, but it's pretty wild.
Yeah, hills near the golds as well
can be kind of nasty.
Of course, hill bonus and age of empire is very, very relevant.
You deal more damage when you're standing uphill and you deal, or you take less damage when
you're standing uphill as well.
So you deal more and take less.
It's a fantastic position to find yourself in.
Loom coming in for Grubby.
A pretty fast uptime here, 18 population, a little faster than the standard.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, pig, whoa, pig.
Your name is pig.
You're missing a pig, bro.
Oh, he hasn't gotten it.
Who are at the back?
With a Chinese start to he's gonna be wondering man, where's my food did I not take that?
He's kind of be lining towards the dog
He knows it's there somehow or like he knows that he's got a look for it. So figured it out
You should jump on that. That was what it had to be. I mean
You're you're losing out on a lot of your timing here with the Chinese Vietnamese player grubby is already up
18 population yeah up here from grubby. Oh, hey
Just now clicks up to feudal age. Yeah, at least gets the click, but yeah
This is kind of rough for the food eco
Yeah, all the sheep going down as well and now the pig is coming in and we don't have many villagers left to take it
So that's a bit awkward there. She's gonna make the application a little bit more. He doesn't have a loom
Ah, oh no, we got it. We got it. We got it. We got it. Nice recovery. Yeah, I got the landing pig. Let's go, baby
Maybe just been across as there and just like, Oh, is he gonna get it?
But he does kind of lined it in the end.
A good double lumber camp set up for Chinese.
I actually like that start.
Yeah, the problem with having a pig, that late sorry to ask, is that
sometimes you get thrown off your build a little bit. True.
It looks like he's actually remembered to go to the barracks.
But a lot of times when you when you forget a resource like that,
you're bringing it in, you're trying to get it perfect.
You'll find yourself in fuel age with no house, no barracks, no nothing.
Right. Yeah.
I like this nice recovery here from pig stable up for grubby on the opposite side
So he's looking to get some skies out onto the field
Apply a little pressure. Maybe do some damage trades a little bit of against the villagers on the wood line
I like that grubby every time he's done that pig has kind of fumbled something not nothing major
But yep, it's kind of distracted pig and at this level a little bit of distraction can really throw you up your game
and can start the snowball in for grubby Chinese up a little later due to that missing pig
But also due to the Chinese slower start. He's up the two villagers though. I think the rain she opens range
But no gold. That's very strange. I saw he saw the stable from grubby. Then he places the range
I think I think he's just kind of thrown off by the the weirdness of the start. He's he's managed it very well
But the timings for him have been a little bit strange. Okay, just put two spears in the queue though
So that's that's good
And you can get at least the back of his base walled off pretty easily
Right just one house on kind of either side of the wood lines and the majority of his base is protected
Just has to then worry about kind of those two awful hills in front of his gold and his TC
I love the setting is out just in time. This is really good that spears coming out scout coming back to defend
And sometimes when you are playing up against a scout rush and you don't have your scout
to defend, you get overwhelmed and your first spear dies.
But having the scout there makes that impossible situation for your opponent to just target
the spear.
The scout's going to be there tanking and whatnot.
So, picks into defend, he's going to play archers and he's going to wall towards that
TC.
I actually like to set up a lot more than I thought I would for Pig.
The two spears really help in the defense and now Trevi, while he's getting the
forms up the scout rush shouldn't do a whole lot.
I mean like the fact that he just
Bit the bullet and wall towards the TC the short balls are really I was about to say the same big Dave
I love that we're in the same place there
I was like, you know what the lack of greed here and deciding just a wall straight to the TC and straight to the gold
I think it's so smart to down her hit on the spear the scouts are taking some punishment there
Grubby decided to run through probably just
Scouts are going to get damage, don't welcome the walls there, and the second spear is there, and Grubby needs to micro like a beast now to avoid the spearman.
Pig, good map setup, still open in the back though, I'd like to see a house there.
Did you have the scouting on it?
He's being very patient with his walls, like he takes this opportunity to wall, and we saw it in that other Arabia game too.
He re-walls, right, even re-walled in that arena game.
Yeah, sure.
Very nice walling here from Pig on all of these so far.
Another good hit with the spear, tracking the scouts well.
And now that he knows where all those scouts are and where the pressure is coming, now he
goes for the more aggressive walls up onto the hill.
Yeah, that's actually where this archer is from, Grubby.
Yeah, range follow-up, okay, this is making a lot of sense.
You could go archers here, but I think more commonly it's the skirmishers.
I think skirmishers is the right call.
Grubby makes it happen here.
Skirmishers for the Vietnamese, of course.
We talked extensively about them earlier.
Very strong option.
the house wall here shall fall off and pig which by the way sounds like a small thing but in this term and seeing how many holes
We've had how many late walls. This is actually a great milestone to have
It's just gonna set him up nicely for this game five. No disasters will happen. Should he keep the walls down? I
Love to see him extend the one while he has an opportunity extend the one around the gold
Yeah, they can't be ranged from the outside, right, but that's like
That's an
Experience play yeah getting hit on your gold so many times if you walled to it
So I don't know if he if he realizes that could be a potential issue
Grubby will realize that like this game is transitioning into a pretty stable feudal age
We'll just wall up himself
I like that adaptation from him gets wheelbarrow comes in a bit quicker for the Vietnamese doesn't cost him any wood
Great pick up there for him
I'd like to see him finish the walls completely and just play with the skirmishers play a nice standard game from here
Give himself the most chances to win three spheres a few archers coming across the map
This is insane versus scouts. Not the best against skirmishers.
Skirmishers will counter both of these units very nicely.
Nice shot from Grubby as well to just use that weak scout.
Bring it to the side of the map. Same with the other one.
Yeah. Get a lot of good exploration.
And you're also boosting your score, which kind of plays into your opponent's head a little bit.
If you constantly have the better score, I think it's a subtle thing, but it can be very effective.
Machines are the guy that might be the most experienced.
Just seeing that score can be scary.
Just passing moment though, because the scrims are now forward.
As Fletching came in for both players, three archers, three spears.
He's going to alert Grubby though, to the presence of the archers.
There's a hole with that attack in the middle of the map.
Oh my God, this is really bad for Grubby. His scrims are out of position.
I don't think he's even seen the archers by the way.
in his base you need to come back here a tower defensively for pig and he's gonna
go straight into this hole this is really bad for grubby for no reason he's in a
quick ball here so far it's okay though good tower really good nice preemptive
tower from pig yes very very impressed like I said with the walls and the
tower there a lot of the players that I've watched on their ladder grind
Especially they seem to think if they couldn't get like a
70 tile great wall of China down then they shouldn't try and wall it all yeah, and they should play open and almost
None of them went for towers some really really impressed here from from pig. This is a great instinct play from him
Yeah, but by the way, I was completely panicking to this completely. He lost a villager
He's now setting way too many way too many votes to go with his abandonist farms. This has been very packed for a little bit
There's a whole thing out there. Oh my god
Two foes around.
You can't engage.
Oh, just barely.
Where are our grabby skirmishers?
He doesn't know there's a hole there either.
It's fine.
It's fine. This is fine.
Oh wow.
Loses both scouts.
Oh pig, this is so smart.
He sees the skirmishers. He's just going to dive.
He'll lose them, but this is a lot of damage actually.
It's really smart for pig.
It's a lot of idle time there.
And the resources are looking solid for Pig as well.
He's adding the market.
He's thinking about going up to the Castle Age.
Now the question is, what does he go for in Castle Age?
Right?
He could go Fire Lancers of his own.
He could go Cab Arches.
He could go Crossbow.
He could go Knight.
There's so many options with Chinese.
That's where the confusing part comes with this Siv.
It's just, what do you pick?
Final cleared up.
Well, let's think about the possible outcomes
against skirmishers.
Probably we don't wanna play archers,
although you can in some compositions.
He's still committing to it.
You can play Archer plus Rocket Cards like a Crossbow Siege play. It's not bad in the
Skirmish, it's fine. You can switch into some Fire Lancers, although it's a less popular
choice against only Skirmish. Looks like he's more than happy to play in the Crossbows though,
Dave.
Yeah, second range coming up. If he does play in the Crossbows, like you said, he's
gonna need a solution to the Skirmish. He doesn't have to stable up yet. Maybe
a Siege workshop, he's walling now in front of the gold a little bit, but that's
just to let more villagers have access.
And also if you're playing cross buzz you kind of want to find that
Castle age timing maybe you know send them across the map show up at the grubby's gold or something when he's not expecting it
I think it was outside his walls. He wasn't forward. He wasn't forward and
I don't think Grubby seen him the biggest so sneaky he loves the fourth seed. He loves that so much
But Grubby has a scouts. Oh
This is gonna be the biggest find ever for this scouts nice job from wow
Really really nice job from guppy big greedy from pink though. You don't need the forward siege
You've killed a bunch of villagers. You've got Chinese you fully walled. This is a fantastic situation
She's played from home got a little greedy to go for that fourth siege and gets punished. Who's the villager for free?
It's fine though, dude. It's fine because they always find the first one
They never expect the second one unless of course their scout runs right into the second one
But he doesn't like that. Yeah, they never
They never expect the second one dude. Always send two. The first one is a sacrifice
Dude pig just ends it. He goes right past Grubby's vision and he's got a sneaky forward villager
This could be a forward seed workshop. This could be a magina push
This is gonna be a huge play for pig and Grubby's got no idea and even by the way that villager was outside pigs walls
Grubby might not think that's a forward seed. He might just think oh, you know pigs made a mistake
Let me just get that bill dude pigs leaving with the archers too. This is so good. So good
This is so good for him.
Oh, Grubby's booming.
Grubby's got no idea.
He doesn't know.
He's going for a forward TC as well.
Oh, no, this could be bad.
Yeah, with Elite Skirm.
I mean, Elite Skirm, great.
You saw Archer, Mass.
You're thinking Crossbows,
but you didn't see the Ville
and you're not aware of the siege.
And that's gonna make your skirmishers near obsolete.
Yeah.
There's also Fire Lancers.
Fire Lancers.
I think you might be overcooking here,
But maybe he just wants to prepare as much armor as he can.
Look where the archers are going, dude.
Look over there, no.
Oh, no, oh, no, no.
This is very bad.
Wait over there, that T-Sit and then, then, then, then.
He's going, he's going, he's going.
Yes.
Yes, he is.
He'll see it.
Oh, my goodness.
Disaster.
Great reaction from Grubby, though.
Potentially saved this game by reacting to this.
He's going to back off that town center,
loses a villager on the wall, rushes to siege workshop.
OK, at least he didn't lose all four villagers.
So it's decent.
But Pig, not wasting time looking for them,
would just look to break the wall and go in
manual defense for grubby here
and the four cities of rocket carts being messed up for pig this is looking
really good for the chinese player right now bill count is even both there's on
one base after the second sounds and from grubby
has been going on the crossbows
crossbows into the base but now he sees that sees workshop you got to be very
very careful about this is an ego play from pig this is the one hundred
percent ego play and now he's just checked on me and he's sleeping again
he's disciplined day think back to that game like that
Woo game he didn't dive into early. He's kind of disciplined. He won't risk it
Many players went in there by the way, that was that was a close call for pig for sure
Oh, the skirt the skirm's got some good reinforcement picks behind this
And that's a nice shot walking culture more expensive than manganos by the way one for one trades are good for grubby
Once a zero place or extra good splits from grubby though very skill matchup right now
with these mangos and rockers on the field
starting at the center of the area we're cooked
he talked about here uh... that that's uh... university came up for pig
like as soon as he hit castle age yeah not actually researched anything right
like you can feel like you did kind of go for a bit too much at once
yeah hasn't been able to actually grab all the text now a lot of scary coming
up on the front
probably deleted that i'm not a tc entirely though yeah and now it's
tower being forced up so a lot of reactions here that's actually decent
He's got a secure stone. I actually don't mind that. Oh my god, Grubby's playing with fire log against these rocket carts for steed
Micro from Grubby though. He's making some defensive magnals. Dude, both players are playing phenomenally here. This is a treat to watch
Second TC for pig he bought the stone for it. He's gonna start expanding his eco
He's still got a really good army for it. He's floating it a lot of res
He can actually afford a lot more and afford ballistics almost he can get some more fire Lancers on the field
It's got the second armor upgrade like this is really dangerous for grubby and the fire lines have done so well
By the way picked up on a mangana earlier at the second mangana dead to the fire lines
So those guys have certainly paid off hand for an early for grubby brubby's micro like a freaking champ out here
Dodging all of these walking mangana shots, but he lost another mangana
Yeah, lost manganas, but the skirmishers are making quick work of all this crossbows on the left-hand side
Both players getting pushed to their absolute limits, but what a game five
Which means he's the micro in two spots against rocket carts dude. He's got a micro in two spots against rocket carts
He's doing exceptionally well an elephant comes out. That's huge
What is it? There's a monk there or is it? Oh, there's a monk. There's a monk. Oh, no
Does pigs see it if it kills you guys? It's worth it. It's gotta be a delete
It's up
He had a bit more time. He had a bit more time get a kid at once more, but it's fine
It's okay second elephant. That's a waste wood line in the back rocket card is there look at the wood line
There's not there's no the wood left there grubby pulls away in time
Reaction from grubby you could rush it with the bills if you want to the elephant will get converted right away
It's got to go back one walk out at the back
Kind of a kind of cheeky walking car another manganal dead on the front
This is terrible for grubby the manganal biker has not been there
Positioning was completely off and pig 2 DC behind it pigs in a great position now
They eco behind for Ruby is a mess as well this rocket card is just walking right into this phase
The Magnos trying to counter it. Ruby needs to delete the wall and run to the other side, but the fire Lancers might be there
He doesn't know
Yeah, Magnos here though. Oh wow pig moves the rocket car. You can't attack them. Oh my god. No way he trades this
Wow close elephants on it though that would have been such an epic play. Yep to trade that off
Grubby is so flustered though.
But now 3 rocketcarts on the front.
Incredible pressure.
Production buildings have gone down.
Stable ambarics.
Now he's moving on.
Start focusing.
That siege workshop.
He's going to take control of this hill as well.
Just making the position worse for Grubby.
Big Manganale trade here though.
Good reaction from Pig.
No great reaction from Pig.
Dodges.
Good play from Grubby.
Gets the 1 for 0.
Kills the Scribbershers.
Grubby's still in this one.
He's on one base though.
He's mining some stone.
Looking to maybe get a castle one day.
Maybe some more town thinners.
more town centers but yo storm mining tells me grubby's playing towards the castle he could actually
just all in this one straight back across the map of the forward castle trying to reclaim the game
because right now it's kind of slipping from grubby's hands and pig is kind of going away with a
little bit of an advantage. Yeah grubby dropping a tc at the top of his base so thinking about
adding a little bit of economy behind all of this about to get housed but now starts building a few
he's got to be careful with this push he could lose a lot of military trying to push up this
this hill with these four
manganos also the elephants.
I mean they've just been conversion
targets ready set to delete all of
them here comes pick with the
fire Lancers. All of these
manganos are probably going to die.
We need a backline. I hate the
only manganal. Oh my goodness.
All the manganals have went down
for grubby. If you had a chance
you needed those manganals alive
the bill the hero bill for grubby
get his ass. Wow.
Grubby deletes the house and makes more immediately.
Second talent center for Grubby is looking to play a standard game, maybe
Mastering some Fire Lancers himself actually.
The enemy's Fire Lancers are tankier, so they are better in the head-to-head
fight against the Chinese who move faster.
The eco balance behind this for Pig is so good.
It's so good. Look at his resources right now.
He's building up towards the castle as well.
Yeah, that's true.
He's building up towards Imperial Age. He's not just a castle. Castle in the middle of the map, maybe even a bit forward near this monastery in Imperial Age.
These are all things from Pig that can actually just end the game immediately. Grubby's economy is a hot mess right now. He needs something on the map.
Grubby will lose if he just sits back and tries to get back into this game economically. You need to attack, but look at this. Pig is all over him, not letting him even move out of the map with a manganole.
Pig needs to invest into not attack grounding and just right-clicking with these rocket carts. He could have got so much more damage.
He keeps trying to absolutely game it right me. Yeah keeps attack grounding the whiffing every single shot
It's crazy. It's good sometimes and sometimes you gotta trust your way back the bowl castle place
That is an ambitious castle. Yeah, I
Almost don't like it as well because even if you get it, it's downhill, right?
Could kill the foundation if all those villagers leave that's one dead. Bill a bunch of weak ones
damage could end up denying this oh he targeted the foundation they're not the
Vils that's a panic castle if I've ever seen one man yeah he needed something at
the front but he never had that yeah so many villagers coming but another rocket
curve from the right side it's Gigi if big get this castle up and denies
Grubbs castles Gigi Grubbs got 15 villagers building at one month to
defend but the rocket card is there Grubby is completely panicked pig is
It's putting on a masterclass, it's got an imp behind this as well, it's all pig, ladies and gentlemen, that forward castle has no, you know, no army to deny it here from Grubby, this is fantastic play from pig.
Yeah Grubby's gonna buy himself some more time if he completes this though. Pig is rolling right now.
Yep. Yeah I feel it's huge, I feel it's massive. Castle goes up for Grubby though, left of the ground, still kind of in the game with that one.
Maybe now he's gotta deny Pig's castle.
Ooh Pig.
Wait, wait.
He's actually from building this oh my god that wall from grubby is griefing and he can't build from the corner
Which is I think you can make wrapped in archers and you can still play this game wrapped in archer Magnos
Not a bad combo. He's got to keep thinking about the nine minutes up
You can't let this go up grubby
85% on the castle now. He's bringing military for we got fire lances in a month coming forward to support the siege
Yeah, thank you got to finish this brother. You got to finish this man. He's got a cry
No, it's not going up. I don't think it's going up right now. 93% 95.
We got battle just coming forward on the foundation, 95% 96, 97, 98, 99, it's going up. It's up.
Oh my god, it's up and the gear lady is here. Pig is doing it. This is absolutely fantastic for him right now.
right now gets the castle up. Grubby couldn't quite deny it. He whiffed on the Magano shot
and Pig is in such a good position. Murderhole's coming in now just to close out any doubts.
He's in a great position now with more siege. Forward Castle, Trevor Shea's will come out
in Imperial Age. Guys who's 20 seconds away from a potential GG. Pig is doing the upset
of the tournament right now. It's just fantastic play from him.
Stellar play. Stellar play. He's impressed. The whole series, I think.
I'm not surprised Grubby is still alive at this point.
It's been a lot of panic but it's also been decent eco management behind all things considered.
He's constantly getting units coming out, he got that castle up somehow.
He's trying to push back this castle.
He's resilient, man.
He is resilient.
He's going two rams.
He made a patard as well.
Yeah, I see that guy in the back.
I don't know too much though.
Pig is so smart.
He just brings in the repairs.
He's got that rocket car.
the loose condition which is like lose the castle and fumble it but he's gonna
hang on to that castle repair he's got murder holes as well he's reading with
some fire lenses prioritizing the impurely arm which is fantastic and if
the trebs on the way after conscription there's an interesting choice and probably
a good one overall yeah the fire lance is so annoying on the right side and
they're about to be they're about to be elite as well yeah so he can send those
in to raid he's also got three relics from the center the rocky carts are
going down but they're not the most important thing anymore right the
trebs and the main massive fire Lancers are important for pig right now yeah and
the fact that he owns this hill fire lancer elite upgrade though that's massive
like that that's a unit that you can't even fight an imp half the time you
certainly cannot fight that off in castle age dude how is he sniping a
relic from grubby Ziko
Yeah, that's incredible.
Look at this guy, oh another castle.
And a forward castle.
Wow, dude.
Mind the stone, just buy it, just buy it and put it down, man.
Yeah.
Oh man, this is absolute surround from him
by the eco of Grubby.
And by the way, Grubby is trying to hang on.
You got to respect the effort.
He's going for some towers to defend,
but this castle is monumental, forward castle on a hill.
That's the second hill he's taken away from Grubby.
And Grubby, if you can't deny that he's dead.
There's only seven villagers and he's building it in range of that tower.
Grubby, aware of it, if he gets his tower up quick enough, he's going to go for a countercastle.
Tries the stone.
Grubby's got the villagers down.
Round two, folks. It's round two.
Violence is coming in though for Pig.
It's not just villagers for him. The tower's going to help him for Grubby.
He's denying the castle, but look at the eco from Grubby.
The castle's going to go down there and there's Fire Lancers in his base right now.
Yeah, it's so nasty.
Castle number one for Grubby goes down.
Ounciner, it's right there. It's got no defense.
The Trebuchets are killing absolutely everything here.
The tower's going to go down as well.
The hill making the Trebuchets kill everything faster.
Listen, Grubby does deny this castle,
which is actually a huge defensive play, by the way.
They would get really excited about this,
if not for the fact that Pig has won it already.
Pig, upset of the tournament, has knocked out the favorite.
Down to the loser bracket, three to two.
What a series from Pig. Give it up for him in the chat.
GG, well played.
Just seriously, that's the showing out of pig today.
That would that would three very or more than three.
I guess five is best of five.
Very, very entertaining games.
Super fun. Very, very competitive.
It's clear that they're extremely close in level.
Grubby a little bit more of a meta player, but pig just seems to have
that nice balance between defense and aggression.
And he knows when to turn that switch and like just start attacking grubby
because Grubby clearly folds at some points, right?
He just kind of crumbles.
The chat saying I looked depressed and whatnot.
Guys, listen, Grubby's in the loser's bracket.
I still got a chance for my boy to do it.
But right now, I'm actually just really happy for Pig.
All jokes aside, I'm not going to cry.
Pig played a fantastic set.
He really earned this upset.
It wasn't lucky.
It was actually just playing better Age of Empires 2.
And he showed deep knowledge of some really powerful
civilizations.
So, you know, kudos to him.
Such a nice guy, such a chill guy.
Showing some very, very nice potential here in this tournament.
He moves on to the winner bracket finals here.
Let's take a look at the bracket.
Let's get Dave and Dash depending on this bracket
before we move on to the next set.
Katnallans will now be facing Pig
in that winner bracket, or upper bracket final.
Grubby drops down, he's gonna be facing Knoth.
And we have Uthermo versus Wagon X.
Dave and Dash, what do you guys make
with the Katnallans versus Pig matchup
tomorrow for the upper bracket final.
The one that nobody, the matchup nobody expected,
I think in the upper bracket final.
No one expected, yep.
These two players, I just think it's gonna be wildly exciting.
I'm just trying to imagine the games
because of the types of players
that each Captain Lance and Pig are.
And I think it's gonna look very different
than this series as an example, right?
Like I think Captain Lance is gonna be a bit more willing
to get down and dirty with Pig,
getting to some of the messiness
the chaos of the game. And so those could just be wildly swingy games.
I I'm of the same opinion like I like meta high level, you know, perfect age of
empires to and that's kind of what you thermal and grubbier are trying to
emulate with their game plan, right? They're they're going meta picks.
They're really studying the game. Lanson pig, more vibes based builds.
And that's that's the type of energy that I want to see in an upper
bracket finals. So that's really exciting to me. I will say that on that note, though, we get five
games again. Like Pig is playing a little bit more meta than Lance. Like Lance is really out there
with this build. He's like doing anything but playing the standard. Pig is playing some good
civs. He has his unique approaches to them. But overall, I feel like he's trying to play
what would give him the highest chance of success with like little risks. He's quite
disciplined in that regard. It's gonna be a very nice matchup. Let's get your thoughts
real quick on a Knopf versus Grubby of course Knopf the heavy underdog that's it that's that will
be later tonight but Grubby maybe some nerves there since it's going to be a loser bracket game.
I think if you're Knopf you take a lesson from what you just saw right in terms of how to kind
of unsettle Grubby which is to to be willing to to bring pressure his way and I think take
it take a page out of Pig's playbook which is that even when Grubby comes forward with
kind of his more patented archer, you know, meta pressure early on, the of counter attacking.
I think that's one thing that pig did very well, that again, lower you low, middle place can struggle
with is the idea of like, well, I took damage. So now all my focus is going to be on like rebuilding
my base and protecting my base as opposed to using some of that time, whatever military
resources you have to go forward and deal some counter attacking damage. Yeah, 100%.
100%. Listen, guys, Dave and Dash, thank you so much for joining for the cast. Honestly,
this is a fantastic trio. I think we didn't talk about each other much, and it was a fantastic,
fantastic cast, at least from my end. So thank you so much for joining me. I hope the chat
did enjoy it, and hopefully we'll see more of you guys tomorrow as well for another
series. Maybe another triple cast. We'll see you.
Yeah, cheers, man. Thanks for the invite. This has been an incredible tournament.
Thanks for having us, dude. It's a dream come true.
and Dave. HDD. HDD, love it. Absolutely love it. All right. Well,
good luck with the rest of the day, Hera. And good luck to the
players who still have some series ahead of them. I'll be
watching. Thank you, bro. Take care, guys. Take care, Dave.
Here you go, guys. Bro, give it up in the chat for Dash and
Dave. Go to, go to, you know, people, go to casters. Dave,
of course, he does a lot of Agent One Parts II content.
If you'd like to follow him, check out his stream Dave Aoi
We on twitch you guys and follow him check him out dash of course does stream as well
So be sure to follow these castes as well that are coming on and let's include more of these people into our like events
Hopefully they'll include me into their events and it gets a nice synergy where everyone's just watching everyone love to see it
HDD we might bring them back from another set tomorrow also doing to give a quick shout out here
Anonymous hundred dollar donation. He says W termic and I got a round of W's for the hundred dollar donation from anonymous
This tournament has been so good.
It's literally been my best idea ever, honestly.
And it wasn't even entirely my idea.
It's an idea that was inspired by many, many things.
So I don't even want to take credit here.
I'm just really happy with how it's turning out.
It's exceeded all kinds of expectations.
We still have two sets for the day.
Knopf, Grubby, Wagyu, Thermal.
Thank you to all of us for the 10 gifted,
dark humility for the five gifted.
And we have also, I didn't shout them out,
but I did see the gifted earlier from Mr.
I don't see the name here, unfortunately it's slipped.
But thank you all for all the gifted.
Really appreciate having you guys here.
Grubby, drop into the loser's bracket,
but he's not out, he got two more sets to go.
I love the Hera thinking about Grubby Sadge,
or Hera thinking about Grubby Pepe Hans.
I think that's so funny by the way.
I'm gonna keep it composed,
because I wanted today to be like professional casting,
but I was dying laughing inside,
looking at what the chat was coming up with.
You guys are awesome, honestly.
It's been so much fun.
Next up, we're gonna have Yamato in here.
We're gonna have a small break, some like a five minute break for the next series though, and Yamato's gonna come in here and yap away.
So I'm gonna leave the bracket in here. Yamato's gonna come, yap.
Potentially, Roxy can yap with Yamato as well, if you guys want to have Roxy in here as well.
I just want to give a quick reminder, alright? I don't want to shill it too much, but if we get to 9,000 subs today or tomorrow,
I will guarantee you confirm a King's Gauntlet number two, a second edition of this event next year.
So you got that sub go on the screen.
Yamato and Roxy will yap away here.
Roxy, why don't you come on over.
Oh, T90, thanks for the raid.
Welcome to T90, officials, viewers.
I hope we can get T90 to join us tomorrow for a cast.
And thank you so much, T90.
Hope you had a nice time casting.
All right, let the yap session begin.
I need a small five to 10 minute break,
even it might be a little bit bigger break.
Hello.
Yamato, you're gonna talk with my wife.
Hey, buddy.
Okay.
All right, don't sound too excited about that, Yamato.
The hell's wrong with you, man?
What?
Jesus.
Well, I have a fiance, man.
He's just inting four people at the same time.
Oh.
Yamato, I love hearing your voice, by the way.
It makes me so happy instantly, by the way.
Absolutely amazing.
Thank you for coming in.
I'm looking forward to this, bro.
I'm looking forward to this.
Yeah, I love it, bro.
I've been watching Riff on all day, so I missed all the action.
I need the recap.
Bro, take a look at the bracket.
It looks like you give me a recap of the date.
Okay, let's go.
Roxy's gonna come to be on voice with you.
Enjoy it guys and enjoy the recap.
You're back five to 10 minutes.
Enjoy the app session.
All right.
Oh, hello there.
Roxy, nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
Are you disappointed that when Hera said,
I'm going to leave my wife on voice,
it was me and not Grubby?
Honestly, after he lost, not so much.
Now I'm kidding. I don't even know what happened in the games.
You you're not watching.
I sadly couldn't. I was busy with something.
So I need a recap.
I rocks. I need to need the whole breakdown of everything that I missed.
All the kings that died.
All the matches that went down.
Crazy. No, no.
I didn't have a listen.
OK, one.
A lot of elephants.
Gravy takes the W. All right.
Thank you. I forgot.
I think he was Arabia? I don't know. Chad? Was it Arabia?
Something.
Pig one. Game three.
OK. Another Arabia, I think.
I don't know, bro.
Why am I here?
Just like her and his friends, you know, like when he needs to take like 10 minutes.
Why? Why is he putting me here?
Well, so you're playing to the empires, too, right?
You're also playing to the empires.
I don't want to make an hundred.
I would cook you, bro. Oh, damn.
Okay, yeah, you fried me
I should have I should have known coaching, you know
See her a coach grubby so much and it didn't help I know I know it's coaching is terrible. Who got your pig Lewis
His view is Lewis and I get it
My coaches were great, I'm the problem like I'll say that straight up
RedForce was brilliant. He told me so many unique details about the game, about Rot, about
Berry Saturation. Do you know about Berry Saturation?
8 is Saturation.
Nice.
8 is Saturation.
Chad, say it with us. 8 is Saturation.
8 is Saturation.
Yeah, but that's specifically for the Foster Rush. Like, if you put 8 on berries and
you're doing anything else, you're subhuman.
Respectfully.
It's respectful. No, no, it's respectful, bro. It's respectful.
Whoa.
Whoa, it's respectful.
Well, yesterday Hera dropped the midget and you are dropping this. That's crazy.
Where do you think he gets his spies from, bro? He married a Latina.
What was he expecting?
How do you feel about the World Cup?
Oof, bro.
Argentina played the other day against Algeria, right?
And so I came home. I was out all day.
all day and I had bought a lot of like paint to put the flag on his face I got
him the jersey okay hats everything when we got to my family's house watched
match my mom was like what did you do he's not even he's Canadian why are you
doing this I'm like cuz he married an Argentinian he better live like an
Argentinian if he's here we're very passionate we're very passionate I'm
pretty sad that this is a mess is last tango, you know, pretty
impressive. I'm gonna cry when he's out. Yeah, I don't watch
football anymore. Like all my all my goats are gone. Like
sure messy and another around but like all my goats, I'm
from Sweden, right? Slothan is my guy. He's not taking it.
I know. Yeah. Yeah. He's over. I'm kidding. What about
what about? Whoa, whoa, whoa, you just got overrated?
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Bro. I'm kidding. Okay. Okay.
I'm kidding. It's it's an apology is do did you see the interview where they asked him like who's a goat like Ronaldo or Messi and he said
Can I say me?
That's what's up. Love the guy. Oh, he gets it. Only he gets away saying that
Yeah, also you need to loop me in sorry you need to look what's what about the rest of the games?
I've been the rest. Yeah, just one more thing sing. Was that a bear?
Which is insane. Dave, thank you so much for the raid and for the co-cast.
It was awesome. You guys are a really fun trio.
Yeah, that was it. Thank you.
Guys, check Dave out. He's an Age of Empires caster.
And he's way better than her.
What? Anyways, back to the games.
Rika.
Alright. Waga Mama Sing Sing.
Give me the breakdown. What happened there?
Waga Mama Sing Sing.
Dude, Sing Sing got cooked by infantry.
The Wagamama Infantry, the Armenians, Celts, the Serpents, the Romans, I think he was very
tilted about that one.
Respect.
Honestly, horses are dishonorable.
You know what?
I don't bet.
I don't bet, but if I had money on a player, it would have been on Singsang.
Thank God I don't bet.
My goodness.
but I always have to watch through the lens of the stream and this page is
just sponsored by I just see the face of who's this man from Team Liquid, the
deposit bonus is just there on the screen Parma because of Team Liquid, the
Wikipedia page
Elijah
My goodness, sorry, I don't think he wanted that information out there
It's Palestinian
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, the rocks are so offensive.
But like the cats are around him.
He's like he's having a feast in the actual house.
Yeah.
Oh, you get offended very fast again.
No, no, no, I don't get offended fast.
I'm just saying, bro, he's eating on the floor,
and I'm saying he's Palestinian,
and then you're saying he's eating like a rat.
Yeah, and not because of that, my goodness.
I'm just saying, the way he's eating,
he's all like crouched over the pizza,
I'm just trying to get your cancer to try to make the transition for him to grubby more
natural.
It is a sight for sore eyes.
That's all I'm going to say.
Okay.
What does that even mean?
A sight for sore eyes?
That never made sense to me.
A sight for sore eyes.
Why doesn't it make sense to you?
Can you explain what it means?
What do you think it means?
A sight for sore eyes.
is that what is he's eye drops what does it mean aside for sore eyes
what would mean I drops yeah when you have sore eyes you use eye drops right but
whether you have sore eyes yeah the eyes are sore because you played like you
you practiced your dark age for 16 hours of course and if he's having an
image that he's eating on the floor and the image is a sight for sore eyes what
could I be saying so it's like tired eyes only tired eyes would enjoy you know
enjoy him because it's like blurry something like that you know what
something like that okay just gonna agree to leave it there okay that's
So, what keeps you busy while your boy streams?
I read a lot.
I'm a reader.
Okay, so five books right now.
Oh, no, no, no.
I am not ready to expose myself on what I like reading.
I said I read a lot.
Five books.
We like to say what I read.
Top three books.
You are stranded on an island and you need three books to read for the rest of your
life.
Three books to read for the rest of my life.
OK, I like the invisible life of Adilah Roux.
Adilah Roux? No.
It's French. Oh, no, no, no, no.
The Phantom of Yopra, my guest, Don Lerou.
Phantom of Yopra?
I'm sorry. Oh, you're only reading the fancies.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
The invisible life of Adilah Roux.
I don't think it's it's written by by a French author.
I don't think. OK.
And then a book that I really, really liked.
I don't know. I'm thinking recently.
hmm I kind of don't want to mention it but like it's it's a duology it's the
heartstring duology by it's called crown me dead and crown me yours it's really
good I cried a lot actually okay why did you want to mention it why is it
embarrassing well cuz you know you have a good literal purists when it comes to
books and they're like oh but it's not like daughter yet ski so it's not it
doesn't count it's not it's not a little story so it doesn't count so okay
fuck those guys I thought the same people said the red forces are not a real way to play
the vampires which was rude you know I was enjoying looping with my horses oh
yeah you're the loop daddy right yeah I didn't get the loop though I didn't
a single game of Arabia
Why made my not me
Then I didn't win. Yeah, I think it's already. I just didn't give you enough time, you know
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think I just didn't give you enough attention
That's it true. Yeah
That's sad. It's changed after work of three. I feel you I feel you I got the same attention you did this tournament
i was always saying on stream how rough it was for my fiance like that i had no
free time during work of three and then i did h of n players right after and
well that's her soul brother
as a as as it's the same
we both just neglected life
well that's her soul
i feel like
excuse to hang out with grubby
but not only that bro
i'm gonna tell you a secret
i'm gonna expose her a little bit
once the stream is done
You know, the camera was off, everybody went home.
I would be in the room reading or whatever,
and I would hear her talk to himself.
And so I'd be like, who are you talking to?
I don't know, another deal is just a truck.
And he would be for hours telling the a truck,
or playing Warcraft 3 with a truck.
So he was like switching them, you know?
I was like, what are we doing today?
A truck after hours?
The thing is, oh, oh.
Thank you, Voxie, I'll take it open.
But why did his voice sound so deep?
He's like, well, the thing is, though.
I got to match your deep voice, you maddo.
The thing is, listen, the late nights with H-Trock,
it's gonna start out like H-Trock needs some help.
We play one game of H-Bump 5, I help him.
And then I'm just like, oh man,
you're better in age than in Warcraft.
And you're like, no, a lot of Warcraft right now.
And then it's like, all right, let's do it.
We start playing Warcraft for like five hours.
That was our late night practice.
Nice.
It didn't matter.
He got an admin loss on his end of the film.
one one oh yeah wait what happened admin loss yeah unfortunately he's he overslept
what did he do he practice he practice till 4am and missed uh missed the timing
yeah this is what it is Jesus early you need to call me up yeah i was in a place uh
replaced a shop with your mano but i was i was afraid you'd destroy it can offer it would
It would be unfair to him, you know, so obviously...
Yeah, I would have looped.
He would have looped around.
Okay, we can start the next match, by the way.
It's gonna be...
Is it Wagamamae Thermal next?
Yes, Wagamamae Thermal is next.
Let me get the camera set up, of course.
Well, you're saving for the spice, bro.
Yeah, it's only good matchups next.
Hang up on Grubby.
Yeah, try and hang up on him.
I love the beards.
I love the beard.
Did he just infantry smoked, sing sing?
Yeah, yeah.
Let's catch up on the games.
He basically went for the infantry rush, two games in a row in Arabia.
He won both.
He also showed, though, that he was playing the long bowman on the Redis at Fortress.
And he did a really good job with it, by the way.
So now we've seen a pretty balanced approach from Wagamama, but mainly infantry for sure.
Yes.
Okay.
I'm telling them that they can start. Good luck. Have fun.
So take a quick look at the bracket. We guys have been staring at this, but I just want to kind of center myself here as well.
Listen guys, we're with Yamato right now. I'm going to be casting the Thermal versus the Wagamama.
And then we're going to have Grubby versus Knopf as the second set today, or the last set today.
Let's say this is the loser bracket quarter-final. So Vesta5 loses out, and the winner moves on to the loser bracket semi-final.
By the way, whoever wins here, the two that win, will move on to the top four.
So tomorrow we're going to have only the top four of the event still with us.
Everybody who got top eight will get some prize pool.
And so this is really the finest, you know, the cream of the crop for the players here.
And only the finest men left.
Yamato, of course, one of those men, not...
What happens if you get 20th?
If you got 20th, Yamato, you're a really nice guy.
You don't get any prize pool though, but great person, seriously.
Nice.
Yeah.
That will last longer than whatever money they get.
I agree. I agree. You matter. Don't let them bring you down there. Very nice.
Them meaning her. I don't let her bring you down. No, I'm going to be nice today. Okay.
Because here's the thing. I got some criticism on the tournament that I was being a little too
mean to Yamato. And I was like, listen, I know Yamato can take it, but I don't want to go
off the vibe that I'm bullying you. Like you already lost in the tournament. I don't
You bully me, bro.
That's crazy.
You can't bully me, bro.
But the people think that I am.
I'm toning it down. I know.
You're a bit mean to other people.
Like Death Note.
Death Note you're mean to.
Dude, every time you mention Death Note, I just smile.
I watched that video.
I watched that video of him running the king of the center about five times yesterday.
If you haven't seen it, you have to watch it on my YouTube channel.
It's so good. I'm just literally dying laughing at watching that one.
that one I'm gonna watch it again tonight back to bullying yeah the nice
guy here didn't last too long no but I'm gonna try to keep it nice today of
course oh a truck is here a truck's in a truck what's up Adrian that doesn't work
Hey truck
Hey truck is not he is this is boy is asleep boy. He's still sleeping
Dumbled I
Need to ask you how many alarms did he miss?
Well, he missed Ludwig's call
He is my message on discord. He missed
The time of course for the events
only cycles, I'm not going to lie, but only cycles like answer phone calls no?
Like, do you answer phone calls if somebody calls you like I'm prompted? Do you ever hear a ring?
I've had my phone unmuted for the last eight years I think. Yeah but like okay you don't hear the ring
but like you can kind of see that you know it's there by the way I don't know if they've actually
he's sleeping and he can see them. It's actually started by the way so we're gonna hop in by
We'll hop into this one. Sorry about that. I was I was waiting for the show, but it hasn't we're missing the dark age
Bro, we're missing the bore pools
Take it with difficulty of an every-star a fast
All right
No, no H. Yo, you're awake. Yeah
Don't go to us like that very very sorry, I'm very excited to pass this I don't want to go from the place
I'm excited for this. I'm sorry. I was late. It was really really foolish
No worries, no worries. I really enjoy here. That's you thermal
Please please welcome. I'm gonna give me a give me a little ram rush with some roadmen
Yep talking talking testing testing. Yeah, let me ask you guys. It's good, bro
Sounds gorgeous. Let me ask you guys. The the the
registered fortress have we seen a continuation of the domination of the
rushes? We've seen a couple more. The strategy has changed. We've seen two rushes
and it happened very well that they both won. We haven't seen a failed rush so
far, but the meta's kind of shifted more to a boom. However, Waga could pull out
a roadman plus ramp push here with the calc. That would be very very strong for him.
So the Rams that's what I would expect with the Celts
That's what I was planning to do myself is you pick an infantry sub like the Celts
You get a bunch of seeds Rams hidden behind the walls and then you surprise them
I assume that's what he's if I saw a kelton the latter. I would think they're doing that
You know on the ramparts
Dude, that would add so much to this mode if the king made your soldiers fight harder when he was nearby.
Because then you'd have to actually think about it. You'd have to actually bring him along.
You're like micro the king, but also not lose him. So he's got to fight, but not really.
That would be kind of cool, but some warcraft action maybe. But listen guys, welcome to game one of
Uthermal versus Waga. It's a best of five. This is a loser bracket round. So loser is out,
and winner will move on. Vietnamese for Uthermal, looking to play a little bit more standard.
And Waga is going to very late with the Keltzer, by the way. I think he's going for the rush.
This is the build where they go for the rush. They're gonna go rams and woldmen and wold raiders.
She'd be a very very solid push. I'm curious to see how this plays out.
Yeah it's pretty exciting. I gotta say water being here is so cool. I did not expect me to get past
things like that. That is insanely impressive. The roadmen. Oh the infantry's have just been
dominating. I knew, bro, I knew after I saw that Hera video of the Armenian rush. I should
I should have just pivoted to that.
Cause everyone expected me to just do the Castle Rush
and if I just showed up with man at arms.
I think that would be really smart actually.
If you had put a little bit of practice into the men at arms,
maybe you could have been the right call for you.
Little bit of surprise strat.
I was too scared.
I wasn't bold enough.
What was your issue in the tournament?
Oh, never mind.
I'm sorry.
I was trying to bone over failure.
I'm sorry.
Over failures, that's not like number one bond over it's still a failure to be fair with respect
This is what I was pregnant as we got that was up late last night practicing
This type of rush and then the monk rush on arena. I was trying to get these down
It's kind of a monk rush to the table. Yeah
I thought it'd be cool to do a monk rush but I was doing it over and over I couldn't get the timing right
He thrumbo says but I can already feel some BS coming away. Yeah, he sniffing some BS right now
I was trying to do the workshop instantly by the way wait that's such aura to say that because then your opponent gets mind game
They're like minute should I still go for it? Although if you're kelts at this point that you just thought you have to commit
I think you might have to go for it like kelts can win the late game
But I feel like if you like if you're planning to do this and he's got seven on gold
He's for sure plan to do this
I think you just have to commit here because if not you're very late to the boom and so I think you
The normal kind of senses this I wonder how he's gonna react to get the castage faster
The standard approach is you just drop two TC's and you boom
But if you send something coming I would go for the one extra town center and then a siege workshop or start massing your unit
That's the way to defend some kind of approach or some kind of push approach from from Wagat
So we want to do it cut up one town center in favor of some extra army
But on you thermal side he kind of has to do it blind right you just to kind of sniff it out because you're not gonna be able to see
anything until the Rams leave the gate
You could hover here, but yeah, I mean you see them leave the gate, but that gives you a lot of time, right?
Ramps are kind of slow, so if you see them here, you get a minute to kind of prepare like a siege workshop in one manganoff.
You also have the wall that can buy you some time. Oh, Talon Center forward is not it, though, by the way.
It's the prime target for the Rams. Kind of an interesting choice there for me there, Mo.
Okay, what about the proxy workshop from the Celts, considering it comes so late, the Castle Age?
Why don't we send out a couple of workers and build it in the front?
Actually, Yamato? That's a really good idea. Why is it not going for it?
I think it's a really good idea. Just proxy workshop, so you have the rams hit faster
instead of walking across the map with them. I like that.
What do you want to hide them though?
Well, you can hide them on the side. No one's really scouting the side of their base.
I mean, they are scouting for relics, kind of.
Oh, I see, like, pretty sweet workshop there. Yeah, yeah.
That would be sick.
The two scouts are not busy at all. There's a love of squirrel there.
They're not giving any information right now.
They're arguing, bro.
In an open field, yeah.
Yeah, and just because viewers that might not
have seen this rush before, let's talk about this rush
a little bit.
We've seen it twice before, and it's worked both times.
Once with the Japanese from Waga,
and once with Mr. Llama, who actually beat Pig with it,
which is a huge upset.
He did it with a melee.
Now we're seeing it with Celts.
It's World Raiders from inside the walls.
Rams from inside the walls.
Rams from Celts attack faster.
Roadmen, Road Raiders, very strong infantry.
You take both of these units.
You load the World Raiders into the Rams.
and you send the ram straight across the map
and try to wipe your opponent.
You thermal with three TC setup
doesn't seem to be adapting to any kind of defense so far.
Yeah.
He's pure boom, pure boom.
There's gonna be five full rams
with 25 roadward riders coming his way.
And he's gonna have to adapt so quick.
This is spooky.
By the way, I saw you on the last series.
You thermal definitely gets a little bit tilted
on these non-Arabia maps
Yeah, cheese hits him. So if that's game one and this somehow takes him out
You might be throwing off for the whole rest of the series. Here we go chat
Here we go. It's you thermal sending villages to the middle with another miss click. This has happened every set so far at least once
It's hilarious. How consistent he is with that miss play?
Well, that's not special. You can't stop it now. It's part of your brain
He's gonna send one out, you know the purpose get a little scout out
What is your thermal spending home guys?
What is he spending?
It's so scary.
He's going literally pure boom.
It's crazy to say out loud I smell some cheese and then do the most aggressive greedy opening
possible.
Yes, it's like he's saying that I expect something to come my way and I will not prepare
for it at all and if I lose it's the most map and I hate it.
If you build some outposts here, I would love it.
Give us some outposts.
Or is it just a passive Uthermo?
It's a Uthermo.
It's literally a Uthermo.
No room, by the way.
It doesn't need stone?
Dude, wouldn't it be awesome though
if the Uthermo villager sees the rush coming
and it turns out to be the greatest?
It works perfectly.
That would be great, but it's walking straight
into the enemy scout and it's likely to just die.
Oh, no, hold on, hold on.
Wait a minute.
Hold up.
Quick check on this rush, by the way.
It's being set up.
four better rooms at least.
Model road raters.
Oh, Siege Workshop, this is beautiful.
Oh, wow, I actually love this.
He's in a boom-free.
So late, though.
No, but it's actually okay, though,
because if you just blind, it makes two meganos.
Like, he's last time, right?
He can make two meganos.
It's, the ramp's just low.
And it's not that hidden.
Like, if Uther will expect the rush to come.
You can flint stone them, though.
Flint stone them.
Move forward faster.
And the thing is, I think the angle,
You can do like a crazy sandwich.
If he's spotted where the castle is,
he's come from two sides.
Yeah, one from the middle, one from the side,
or like both sides, you think?
Just a burger, you know, just a ram burger.
A ram burger, yeah.
All right.
That's the classic ram burger.
By the way, Uthermost still funnily
builds villages outside his base.
This is ridiculous.
It's a record number of times now
that he's Uthermling his villagers.
But he's up 22 bills.
He could throw a couple of rounds for fun missions.
Yeah.
Little girl?
his chances of surviving are like 50% higher instantly.
Yeah.
A couple of meganos make this way worse.
But he's grouping them.
He's grouping them.
He's grouping the speed.
He doesn't know.
Why is this bad, Yamato?
Tell the viewers.
If you group units, they match the lowest speed.
But they are faster.
You're gonna flintstone them
by putting your bros in them.
Yeah, you're so right.
Five is the quickest.
Oh, he knows it's coming now.
He knows it's coming.
They're going off the slowest ram
Okay, yeah, they're just going
Just slowing everybody down
I thought he clicked the petard into the tiger
I'm sweet enough you can
The tiger Ratton's coming out to meet this head on oh you could set the guitars here
He's got to be careful there you thermal slowing down the push a little bit to manganals here to defend
But you have to step the potards here
Potards are here to kill the wall by the way two hits on a potard
But you start on to a wall here perfect. He's beating the for the manganals
Oh
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god
To die though to die and hold on the villagers being called in it's London, baby
Oh my god
Oh my god, no loom, a regular loom in the chat, I can't believe it!
It's every game, it's every game, I swear to god, I'm so mad, look at this, no loom, oh my god!
I think you could add 500 elo boys to your thermal, already the highest in the tournament, which is like, automatically buying loom.
Crazy, bro, it's crazy.
What?
He's still home!
He's still on the ramps!
He killed all the ramps!
He killed all the ramps with loomless villagers.
Wait, this is good for you, Zemmall.
I think you skipped the castle.
You got a loop.
You have to get away from here, and there's not one in a million miles.
Another 40-hour train to get here.
Yeah.
I think targeting the castle, that was a mistake.
You should have just pushed in deeper past the castle,
because this castle is not really defending anything.
Yeah.
Wait, getting that TC on the left would have been nice.
Where's the king?
Okay, the king was running around.
The King was right. I was the king in the castle that would have been oh my god
Wait, I don't know if he knows the King is to do things on a way since the King out of the Sun
Because the village of mistake with the King just sends it to
I can die I can die. Well, dude. I guess it's
inspirational
Fuckers
King's yelling at his men, but he just
Now he just takes two buildings near the King. He doesn't know the King is there. He doesn't know the King is there
forward siege i mean that's the last
logger now is yeah i think you have to
catch it he's 30 miles down it's a mistake
though i think fighting on castle side
is a mistake this is something that
red force taught me that you just don't
fight on castle side because it's like
if you come from left or right you have
way more space to play with where's the
king sense the king left oh he went to
the town center okay can you see the
the town center he's fine I was setting up more rams now forward sees workshop
with the couch the things you can maybe try another push I mean you might as well
try another push like the first one works so well if you just bring more
rams though I feel like five the first one was okay but maybe six or six okay
maybe yeah maybe six or seven I'll finish it off I'll say I'm not scared
six or seven rams coming a little bit more than five and I think you can make
it happen honestly I'll say I'm not scared I appreciate your bravery yeah
I do think you got you can't pivot from here. The economy is so far behind
So you have to kind of like hope he thinks you're going back to town centers and you do one last
one last push
Put all in the line I
Do think you need POV from the pro POV here at like
It seems to me that the reason that didn't work is he he did the Rams on the slowest speed like
That could have gone so much better, but he was there a minute late, right? Well
I mean not really because if you just went with a fast speed ramps is only going with threes
It's not that good
I think why it failed is that he just sent the ramps after the manganose the ram should have all hit the castle and the
World Raiders should have went for the manganose by the way, this is the crazy sneak attack
We're going through the hole between the trees. It's a secret passage
The mangos are there though
Melissa comes out. Okay
You thermal killed that guy by the way. Yeah the man knows what's like a guy refuses like he's still on his flip phone
You know
Everyone back and all that. Oh my god. He opens the gate. No freaking way. Open the game open the man has all the
Get the mangoes! Get the mangoes! Get the rams in!
Oh, he needs to step to the last one though.
One more, one more, one more!
Not quite, not quite, not quite, not quite.
With the rams in the gate, there's one manganelle.
Dude, a blunder from your thermo, but could have been a master,
like a master, you know, of a little bit of bait there.
Yeah, I mean, you kind of just slaughtered the extra loads.
Ooh, the gate lives.
Yeah, three rams going down.
Going down mega losses a solid defense. I like that you thermal okay. He's doing the thermal. Oh my god. Oh mega you thermal
thermal
Start a side face or something
I'm sending unloomed villagers at you, it's just a freebie.
Wait, well I guess I can send out some patards by the way.
Because of the king win condition, I would try another push.
You never know when you can set that king.
I would bring actually like 20 patards
and you just try one last push with those patards
and see if you can make it work.
And he's bringing two though.
Two patards and a dream, they get sniped here.
They're going through the front.
Mango.
Okay, this is kind of a nice pocket, I like this.
He needs to split to his world road nendo and target the mangonels.
Yep, Ballistics is coming in now.
There's so many archers though.
Yeah, I'm not feeling this one.
I don't think we've got enough.
He'll kill the mangos though, at least.
He needs to turn the king and make him come out of his hiding spot.
He needs to like...
He needs to insult his honor.
Yeah, I think besides the king snap here, which is likely not to happen.
I think there's not much these world raiders can do.
He does see the town center garrison.
You might be looking for a tower or something, but besides that, there's really not a whole
lot these guys are doing here.
Yeah, I mean, you could kill 30 villagers with this and still be behind, so it's just not...
Tough.
Yeah.
It's tough.
Good strat though.
Good strat.
Yeah.
Well, Aatrox, you can't prepare this and you brought it, you would have lost, so don't
feel too bad.
I would have lost, so yeah, I don't feel too bad.
I'm well rested.
You see yourself the stress of using this strategy and losing a third of this fight.
Yeah, I'm using this.
to me yeah it's good I'm glad to just be watching
my face while he beats my ass that was moving out now feeling quite confident
by the way look at that quality Jesus thermal has lost both better said
fortress play games they played in the last two sets I believe he lost one
to sing sing and he's lost one in his last match and so I feel like getting a
win here is actually huge for you thermal yeah I get some confidence play
his style I said against this command you thermal is my favorite to win at all
I have faith in this man yeah he's in the losers bracket though and he's playing
up against grubby even if he wins this match assuming there's no upset and
tough so it's gonna be tough like he's got to get through a lot of top names
he wants to make it through to the finals yeah it's tough I think I'm
thinking pig lately something about pig I'm so impressed by he's so so good in
his matches and yeah he's getting better too by the way under yeah he's like
learning as he goes yeah yeah I don't know big is too good of a caster to be
this good at the game he needs to like distribute his attribute points a
little bit more fair you know like this is like one of those is did you guys
ever place swords and sandals you know with the cheat code you could put in
the beginning you didn't play swords and sandals nobody played
no one played swords and sandals
people the testing it's going to go they did grubby with the raid welcome to
grubby viewers guys thank you for coming in here thank you for the raid grubby by
the way I think it's confirmed grubby will be playing Knopf tomorrow Knopf
versus grab will happen tomorrow 13 GMT the match will be delayed and no admin loss because
it's not a truck so that's how it is. That sounds fair. That sounds fair. Yeah, that's
good. Nice. That's how it is. It's super, super late for him, right? So just make sense. Yeah,
you've been up all day. They're both European. I spoke about the way we're all it's all
good. Yeah. I have to ask you, gents, how hot is it where you guys are right now?
Like how? What's the weather like? It's cold here down. It's cold. It's not too cold.
It's a little cold, a little chilly.
How about you, Eichilk?
Super hot here in LA.
Super sunny day.
I am melting.
We don't have AC over here in Germany.
Man, I don't know why.
The Germans are like, I'm sweating.
My desk is freezing.
I lived in Germany.
It's so true.
28 degrees.
You have no AC and everyone's throwing dial up internet.
And I don't expect it to be AC.
Germany's saving the planet for other people to live
in it like insane.
No AC, bro.
You're like that militia in you thermal's base,
There's some aspects you're just sticking to the classics.
Oh, god damn heatwave.
By the way, one last push. One last push for Wagon.
We got one Patard. We got one Magno, one Ram.
Trying to knock down this outpost. It's impurely for your thermal.
So barring any king step, this game is practically over here.
It kind of matches their range units though.
Look at these range units.
They're kind of lost on the map here and they're walking slower.
He's got so many of them though, like I got
Them with the ram bro. I really substance this
Look there
If I'm walking in this spot, I send all my villagers to the corner take a quick nap
Catch up on some sleep and then you're ready for the next game because there's just no way to win this this one
This one at this point you thermal would have to quit I there's not I
Mean each way if you send I mean I guess you can catch the king
Where's the key?
Each wave he sends is smaller than the last one.
It's getting later in the game and his waves are smaller than the previous one.
Yeah, exactly.
Smaller waves and more defense from your thermal.
It's like, if you defend the first rush, you can always defend and that's why these
Alden pushes have to work one shot.
If they do, they're very good.
If not, they look terrible and this is exactly what we're seeing here.
The strategy did not look too hot past that first rush.
And I think Waga is just looking for the king now, which I honestly appreciate.
I think that you should do this.
You never know if your opponent makes a mistake, but your thermal is safe.
Oh, they...
They don't real freak, you just put a villager in every building.
Still no loom, by the way.
You did that earlier in the tournament. I don't know if it was Youth or War Shrinksing.
They put a spearman in like three different towers so there's a flag on it.
So you couldn't tell where the... I was so impressed. I was like, what a mindbite.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of those dying?
Unloomed villagers, of course.
You could do that. For example, there's a flag on this tower, could be the king.
on the castle to complete the king put a few more up and really confuse your phone and that's why kings
have just so hard to do by the way and that dude wagas really trying this one he's adding in siege
workshops zipping his r-blast dude I really hate going r-blast when you have rat than archers just
play rat than archers they're really good they're better than our blood what's the difference I
they both own me but I don't understand what rocknarders why they're so good they have a
weird sound with issue they're they're anti archer archers but they also just have better
stats and generic arbalest for the most part so it's almost always worth going for them.
Most archery and you can do it like that. They're always going to be a little bit better
than arbalest in some way at least. Like why do I see britain's players make arbalest
ever when they have longbows? I don't get it. Well sometimes you don't have the castles
right? Longbows are better but they're more expensive and you don't have the castle
production sometimes. GG GG GG. Not the most exciting final moments there but you
thermal was against the Robster for a second here. Waga you have to respect the strategy because at
the end of the day even though it looked so hot in this game it has been proven to work
but maybe because it was a bit kind of on the radar you thermal was able to go for the early
siege and despite the defense not being too clean it was good enough got the villagers
dealt with the push and he just smooth sailing from there. Well play to your thermal he wins
the register for just for I think the first time in the tournament maybe the second time.
I have to say Waga mama like for anybody that is doing this push because
My whole strategy and the prep for this was you have to make sure that you choose the wall that you want to breach very carefully and you cannot waste any time.
I do think the moment you pull the scout away and you notice that the enemy has no stables right.
I do think that you need to just look for the proxy workshop and push a little bit faster because imagine if you did proxy workshop and just went with two rams and didn't focus on the castle already with ten world warriors and
two Rams I think he could have cracked it because that siege workshop could have
been late with the scouting that your thermal did so it's like the timing of
that push was the main thing that I struggled with and I think that he
could have gained more traction with the push if we just did it a little bit
more elegantly. Yeah I think your idea of a hidden forward siege was was
really smart I think that would have been super super helpful what he was
doing here. Yeah I was going to say you know it could really work if you
want to do a similar style all-in push but you also want to mix it up a
a little bit to not make it too all in.
You can start with a forward workshop right away,
the Yamada style, like proxy villagers right away,
see your workshop behind the base.
You go two rams, like you said, Yamada, break the wall,
send in some more radars, maybe a Maginot
to break the wall and guarantee that.
Send in the more radars, don't hit the castle.
Just run around, loop it up.
Yes, yes.
Take out the houses, raid with the more radars.
And then at the same time, also prepare the main push
here from like a middle of the map,
see your workshop, even from home,
doesn't really matter.
And you prepare that main push for the castle
with like the five or six rams.
So you distract them earlier with a small round push,
and then you go in for the big play
down the center with the two patards.
That could be a better adaptation of the strategy,
and I hope that maybe we'll see that
for the upcoming matches.
Could be an interesting way to special.
The additional layer, especially when you run the Celts,
it's like the TC fire against your Rams
and your unique unit is there's no damage.
There's no damage at all.
The castle fire is way higher,
and it just so much stuff to break.
I think it would have been way better if you just came from a different angle to castle
I think most of the time is a bait. It's a very premium building to break
Yeah, it's like all or nothing if you go to the castle, which feels like might not be the best the best call
We're almost guaranteed to see Arabia only for this matchup by the way
Wagamama and your thermal both not the best arena players and they also hate playing the map
So we might see an Arabia only matchup from now on which has been kind of rare by the way
Most of you most players have been mixing in some arenas
That's gonna be a welcome almost home map next like there to be a rabid but not a guarantee and
We're gonna see if you can make his infantry work against you thermal which is gonna be as tough as tests yet
He did beat sing sing earlier sing sing was a dark horse in the events while they've knocked him out here
And we're just gonna see a rehost but yeah guaranteed guys grubby versus Knopf has been pushed to tomorrow at 13 GMT
So keep that in mind that this is the last set of the day now
Just to show you guys the bracket here
So you have Grubbiknoff to tomorrow both of the Europeans both of them better better to play in the morning or the afternoon for them
So it's gonna be pushed to tomorrow first set you throw them over swagger mama will be the last set of the day today
So let's enjoy it while it lasts and have a good time
Yes, sir, I gotta say I'm very excited to see waga on Arabia
He's my favorite player of this tournament because he also plays aggressive infantry. Yeah, and him being able to beat singing with it
It's just so crazy. I wouldn't expect it to be possible especially because I
I mean, tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't one of the best counters that I'll play is like fast
Cav Archer, and that's exactly what Singsing normally does?
What is that about?
No, no, it is true.
Like, Cav Archer counters infantry a lot, but the thing is Singsing was dying in futile
age, and the four Cav Arches were even a possibility.
So that was the problem that he was having.
But fast archers from Uthermal have been proven to kind of counter this infantry
style.
We saw it earlier in the Captain Lance matchup, I think at some point, Captain
Lance might have tried some infantry, and the fast archers from Uthermal,
the Scouts into archers was good enough to beat it.
He's rocking the Malians, it's been a trusted pick
alongside the Portuguese for Arabia.
Wagga is going with the Romans.
He's got two civilizations that he thrives on
and he relies on heavily, the Romans and the Armenians.
He's starting with the Romans.
Let's get in a Dharma in the chat, by the way.
I see Atroc participating in the chat as well.
The Romans are there.
I'm biased here.
I think the Romans are so sick
and I'm excited to see what he does with it.
It was also,
I feel like you can hold it.
It's probably you thermal.
He's so solid on fast archer range walling.
Talk us through the strategy though.
We've seen it a lot, but let's get your opinion on it
because you've practiced a lot of Romans.
I did a million hours of this.
The big thing is you want to hit right, right, right
on time, 19 pop with the four minute arms.
You get four instead of three
because of Romans 5% bonus.
You get in with the upgrade,
the armor upgrade that's doubled
and TC's don't hurt you that much,
Archers don't hurt you that much
and you can just run around.
And then the idea is you keep them so busy
with your first four or maybe you add a few more
but your few three minute arms,
you can get up to castle behind that
really good time and when you do that then you get the long swords in and then you're just
swarming their base and it's over. That's like how it works in the dream situation.
What really suck is when if they wall really tight early and they get archers early they can just
prevent the damage get a nice ball of archers up and then suddenly you're not doing as much
as you thought you would and you're you're you're push fizzles out. Yeah, no kind of depends
on whether or not yeah. Actually I think you nailed it it's like you want to hit a little
a little bit early, you know, keep your point behind those initial men arms and then kind
of wall up and not overextend the feudal age and then come back and cast it with another
force and another timing. Romans are very timing based with their men arms and infantry and
they have a decent economy behind it. But Yamato, what do you make of this Roman men
arms strike? You said earlier that you think maybe it could have served you right
as well, moving away from that fast castle. What makes it so appealing to you as
well as the player?
I think it's just that the success rate has been very high this tournament. I think just putting on the early pressure
I think you need to have like the exact right answers and the odds of it going wrong is extremely high
If I just compare based on my little knowledge
I have preferred that a lot more against the scouts because the scouts are just such
Weak units you can like palisade against them wall against them
And I think that the manatees do a lot more damage, especially with the upgrades you can get with Romans early
Yeah, so by the way, just a little bit of context here for some people that might be a little new to Age of Empires.
Scouts have the hand of a pro player, a lot more solid because scouts have that mobility factor.
So they're not great in the head-on fight, but if you micro them to perfection or to near perfection,
they can get a ton of value just running around your opponent's face and outmaneuvering your opponent.
In the hands of these Intermediate players, which are looking for wrong, these players are really good,
but sometimes you just need those raw stats, that head-on fight, because the mobility, it's nice, but it's not game-changing.
So the Menor Arm tends to be a little bit stronger in these head-on-head fights.
Just the raw stats, Menor Arms have a little bit more damage than the Scout Cavalry.
There's another thing to keep in mind as well.
The Menor Arms are actually recently buffed, like a year or so ago.
There's a big patch that really buffed Infantry.
So historically, Infantry have been really weak in the Age of Empires,
but recently in the last year or so,
they're actually the highest win rate strategies amongst most Elos,
up until only that pro level where Infantry kind of falls off a little bit,
due to quick walls and mobility being a little bit higher up there in terms of what the pros prefer.
So just a little bit of information there might find interesting.
Yeah, they can run away from marchers now.
You're actually chasing them, they can run away and you're fine.
That used to not be the case, so it's okay.
Oh my god.
Scouts are useless now, kiddie.
Oh my god.
Your matter is right.
Scouts are terrible.
Look at that.
Waga doesn't care about his, but...
But that really sucks, because you want your scout so...
If he's doing the Minotaur, I don't even know if he is yet.
He is.
Yeah, he is.
You're gonna want that scout so bad.
I really don't like that my man is doing two wood lines already.
This is very early, because I don't think he...
Especially with the map layout, how on earth is he going to palisade himself in on two wood lines?
That four wood lines is really risky.
Your spot on your map of that four wood lines is too risky.
I don't mind the double lumber camp, but this wood line down here, way safer.
Wall kind of kind of close out your base get that back gold taking this
Yeah, you see the vision a two cuts and it would be perfect
But now it's like he's got to defend the front of his base
Men arms are coming in from Wagah and Wagah is the best player in this tournament at doing this Roman thing with respect to a truck
You were very good as well. Fortunately. They didn't really see the potential there, but
Fair so fair
Guys we need 1000 subs more so me and a truck have a chance to redeem myself next year
I'll get a nice one-year sleep!
Subglove the screen guys, 900 left, it's a special deal today, we'll see if we fill that one out.
Yamato, what makes you so sure you get another invite by the way, Yamato?
After this performance, maybe I give you a spot to someone else.
Oh, he's gonna be a common cast, common cast, it's a thing, it's a thing.
You gotta tell me dance monkey, dance monkey.
You're a good dancer, you're a good dancer.
Five militia by the way on the field as you have little cosplays
Okay, he's like five reshader boat five an armor solid
He's been he's been known for this by the way
Why go over like he's a heavy hand of the militia early game it comes in a little later
But it's a little bit more powerful. Look at this. Are you thermal? Oh my god. Oh my god. He thinks he's well
The whole
No, there's not even a villager there bro. This is terrible. Oh
disaster oh
Oh, the kid back. Why are they going backwards?
No, they're in there in. Wow.
Do you know? Oh, my God.
See the whole thing. No way.
That's so unfortunate.
But why is he going back?
Go in, go in, go in.
You thermal no quick walls.
He's panicked. Oh, my God.
He has to delete the house.
He broke a house.
Damn. Good place.
Good place to be thermal often considered.
Honestly, not that bad.
Only one villager,
but we talked about that forward line.
Obviously it's a whole it's unfortunate, but still Wagga this is prime Wagga positioning
Might lose a minute arm here. Nope. He groups up. I'll say no armor though. Go ahead a truck
I'm a little nervous for you thermal doing scouts when I play this strategy. I'm so happy when they go scouts
Yeah archers are way scarier
They can always run they can always kite they can they can pick off minute arms the scouts just can't fight head-to-head
So yeah, as long as you're safe back at home
You know the scouts are almost like a waste of food is what I see it matters whenever I'm against this
They just they usually die to the upgraded armor man arms, but
We'll get Microsoft on it to fix it within two decades guys. Don't worry. Yes
Quick fix
Goes down there. Wow. There's no just could have all died right? They just they just they ore it their way
I had to scare the scouts out
Spear was coming out anyway, so he was obviously to be fine there
But you throw more backs up with the scouts like you say though Hocky
You need archers eventually like scouts cannot fight Roman men arms. Yeah, you saw Singsing try didn't really work out with dagger scouts
It's not gonna work out with the Malians here, but you turn was on Archer slaughter
It's not too bad. Yo, yo, does he have the fire but fire buff from the barracks?
Does he do extra damage already? No Romans can't get that otherwise it'd be
Oh really? Romans can't get that? I'm thinking about Armenians I guess.
Yeah, Armenians do get it with the long swords, I believe.
Where's the Romans going?
Just a couple of archers here from the Malians, not too much.
Just a question for you gents, why didn't he try harder to break the berry line?
Because they don't have enough room to build palaces to block because of how tight it is.
Why didn't he try to break the berry line?
It's a good question actually. He could have tried. It would have been okay, but he wanted to loop around here
because he might have thought that, okay, this could be open. He didn't know that it was walled.
Now he's here. He sees it walled. He's like, okay, the berries were walled. The gold is walled.
Let's just sit here and hit this. So it's because he thought he'd get something better,
and that's why he looked for it.
You throw was getting back to that woodland in the front, by the way, but very inefficient pathing.
You gotta finish that wall because there's more Minerams coming from Waga here.
But Waga's got a lot of idle TC behind this, and this is a prime target, though.
Yeah, this is greedy if he had walled it would be awesome to get back on it, but now if they're
He's kind of all yeah, this is and also repairing a wall that's being hit by five minute arms does cost you a lot of wood
I don't know. I think it was dr. Agon star told me that but he's like it's actually pretty significant
Yeah, you shouldn't feel so bad if they're doing a lot of repairing. It's actually kind of you're slowing down there
They're wood by quite a bit
Shadows the dogs are all up
And then arms up here by wagon doesn't the best that anyone by the way
He just puts up his troops. He's so good at this
There might be it must be the Dota micro coming in handy
He's walking around with this distraction on this side repairs on this side
And he's forcing the quick walls here luckily though you thermal does get the quick walls and with only men arms
You can't linger here. You might have to just go to the next but the bears are now exposed
See if wagon can hit that he doesn't know about it. Of course no vision. Oh
He's in here though. Oh wow
We got in he got it
There's a villager
It's like when you show up at the club with six dudes, you know, you're with your homies and they're like yo
They're never gonna let us in I do
Then suddenly you know
One billion, you know, it's not that bad, you know, it's not bad
These two pressure here. Fletching coming in though for you, Thermal.
It's going to be a little bit more damage coming out of the archers.
And once Fletching comes in, you start to have to respect that as the Roman Claire.
But from here, Romans like to play towards Castle Age.
Marquette could come through soon. Maybe some more farms to these berry villagers.
And Waga might be having his sights on Castle Age next.
Yeah, I would love to see some more farms. Waga is...
I mean, I would do the same, but he's got some idle villagers.
And a little bit too much wood.
I know whenever we practice it and you were yelling at me
You're always screaming at me during this when your men and arms are attacking to be making forms
Like you should have no wood floating
Not sure I'm noticing, it's terrible.
Yeah, I would be yelling at him too.
Oh, he got in though!
You can't fight, you can't fight!
We're in the club!
They keep ruining the vibe of every club they go to.
Everyone's going out of the club now.
It's terrible.
He's fleeing this terrible club, dude.
What is this violent dance?
Oh my God, so many kills.
This is huge. You're terrible going to that front.
single-handedly potentially cost him this game he's still looking at the
food count is so low for you thermal and he's got you know still have to deal
with these archers are sorry these men arms taking up so much time is a little
bit of a flank all it's a burger you matter it's a burger
it's a burger oh yeah trapped in here with me I'm trapped in here with the evil
good hiding though really good kind of prison this is the security trying to
kick them out of the club little trap the thermal quick wall oh wait
I lose that villager though. Dude, why just getting a lot of villagers and laughing at
stays at is pretty good. No armor! We didn't have armor the whole time! It's not Roman
infantry, it's just been reused in regular English.
Oh my god!
Oh my god, this would have been so much stronger! Dude! That's why they were dying so fast.
That's what happens when you try to remember Loom. You know something else?
Yeah, that's the whole point of the strategy. That's the entire reason you
I was thinking man these Romans overrated
That's what they scream when they attack with them
Oh man
Double equit that coming in I like to see the players having fun during it's a competitive maps kind of but it is of course a fun
Streamer tournament at the end of the day here ten archers from youth thermal looking to push back now
Now we have armor though. Now it's respectable. Look at this.
Yeah, but we have this big of a mass of archers. They just kind of...
Yeah, still good enough.
They do this.
Well, these swords need to raise their shields, bro. Like, these shields are hard.
I put my block something. That's what we're doing.
They never use the shield, bro! They just a problem. They're sticking their head on.
Terrible.
Wacker has a bit of a ability, by the way. Somehow, the auto-TC has been kind of off the charts for both players.
Although actually you throw them only 30 seconds, but why just killed nine villagers who's gone a little bit of a field lead here
He still continues to pressure with the Roman men arms finding his way and deep into this wood line here
He is incredible
He always splits up the yeah the men arms and he just makes you have to think in four different
Yes, maybe I'm like I don't hear you this
Here you hello. Hello
We'll continue casting in the meantime.
More farms being dropped for Waga.
It doesn't need to mill.
Farming out here is very, very suspicious.
Farming is a very bad area.
So this is the scariest spot.
Yep.
This is as the Romans is like, you finally, your push gets stopped, which happens every
time with archers eventually, and then they come back to do some damage.
And if you're not fully walled, or you don't have a tower or something, they start
getting a bunch of counter damage.
You don't get to castle on time, and everything gets thrown off.
Yep.
This is the scariest.
If you can get to castle, you're still great.
You have a nice build lead, he's got the tower, really smart.
The tower on the gold is good, spot on though, Hrock.
Is there a hole? Is there a hole?
I think he's passed the hole back here.
And you're spot on with that commentary.
Like without the tower, there's really nothing stopping the archers from coming through.
That tower position, it looks smart because it's in between the wood and the gold.
And like, oh, in theory it protects both, but in practice it actually protects neither.
So this tower is actually not great for Waga.
I would have liked to have it just on the gold.
Maybe there's some walls to work that as well, it could have been nice.
That tower looks a lot better than it is so far you thermal
It's just kind of hitting over the walls and harassing a little bit, but no crazy kills for him
Why got up to cast this though decent timing from him?
Okay, yeah, he's at the castle. He has enough men and arms to come maybe slow this but you don't want to lose them
This is the scariest thing is when the archers
If you can dance around that it's great
But if they start killing men and arms then your your castle is pushes way way less scary
You want all these guys to upgrade. I'm back. I'm back
You're back, you're back, you're back.
Keep going, Nacho, keep spitting, keep spitting.
All right, I was just saying, I mean,
keep the fire on him.
Again, if you end up all my hours in the tournament,
it was just this strategy for 95% of it,
so I'm like very, it's what I've thought about
and lost sleep over for a few weeks now.
Yeah, I just, I'm excited to see.
So far from my POV, Harry, tell me I'm wrong.
He held that pretty well.
He's getting a castle, unless he loses some bills,
his next push is gonna be pretty scary.
Like he's gonna hit with a lot of minute arms,
How long swords with double armor pretty soon? Yeah in about like 90 seconds
Yeah, the dead village is here over the wall. You're actually spot on a truck
I love to tell you you're wrong when you are but you're right, bro
And you're you've actually some great commentary here all those Roman hours not wasted and
Night tournament quite but in the cast is booth. We still have some knowledge
Of course, they're dead. What are these watches doing? They're like the workers of your third home
Oh, no walk, but by the way the flag is hitting two spots. Look at this
The archers in the front. Oh my god
That's terrible for you thermal cuz you want those to be as you're doing. I got I'm being attacked by a moth. All right
I'm fine
Thanks, let me ask you something 30 second difference on castle. Yeah, will the upgrades hitting?
Can that be the difference maker the damage this army is about to do a hundred percent timing is every
moment, but
He was gonna have before he's lost a bunch of archers
Granted a truck a lot 20. Yeah, I know a lot. He does a lot. I just didn't notice. Yeah, you're right
He can also get
Faster infantry and long swords all hitting within the next 30 seconds and he's gonna just he's gonna flood
This is the classic vlogger dude. I love
This is workshop get in there bro get in there. You gotta start working already. Oh my god
That's coming in now longswords will clear up these archers very very well played here from mr. Waga
And we have the siege workshop here in the middle of the map
Beautiful beautiful setup here Roman scorpions of course are 60% cheaper in terms of gold by the way
So a great addition to the longswords got all the upgrades in terms of armor and now we have attack coming in for the romans
He's kind of waiting and here we go thumb and coming in a premium upgrade for the costless
The castle gap was in use at all he should have already lined up at the club
We could have hit he could have done damage already hit to the wood line and distracted. Yeah
What up or something? I mean there is
27 crossbows of 22 longswords, so
But you know what water is so good right when he does hit of splitting the 50 different spots
Yeah, suddenly you get overwhelmed. I like this though. She looks fix for me thermals really good
Really at least crossbows are gonna be brutal. Well, we have a double-seed workshop play double-seed workshop scorpions
I love that
Yeah, you get this crossbow on that hill that wood line is gone
What long should going down
Scorpions on the field scorpions the great choice here in addition to the long to the long story
I want to see you thermos abandon this woodland by the way. I feel like we're listening
Like we don't have to fight this except for the fact we've got a wood line here. It's crazy
There's other wood on the map you thermal you there's not the only place to take it
He likes the thought he likes the kiting bro. He loves the guy name
What is this bike man doing a bro?
not invited
Dude good micro from the thermals fighting in two spots. He's like me perfectly knocks down a scorpion and Wagga
Normally, he's the guy splitting and looping but you can almost kind of outpacing right now
He's getting looped
He's getting looped, bro
How crazy would it be to take a long swing around and then to flank with the soldiers?
It's okay.
With a few, I think it's okay with a few, but I think you want because you have so much seeds
I think you want to push with the bulk of your army down the center because you will break the crossbows eventually like you're doing well
Eventually this micro is not gonna help forever for you thermal
Man you thermal's doing shockingly well against
Yeah, it works.
Oh, the workers are exposed.
Win the club!
Oh, he's in!
He's in!
He's in the club!
Not more friends!
And the villagers don't have to abandon the woodline, bro.
This woodline has cost us so much stress, honestly.
You know what?
It has lost so many villagers, taking some weird fights just to keep this woodline protected.
But now Waga's in.
Ville Count's actually even.
Waga with more army.
The Scorpions are pushing in.
Waga takes the score lead.
He's pulling up some momentum right now, trying to equalize this set.
And now the scorcher in a nice spot
Okay, don't hit this don't hit this lumber lumber camp. We got a loop. We got a loop
I gotta get out there. You gotta be finding some villagers
You thermals getting a lot of kills by the way, I don't think we're giving enough credit
She's no for how many kills he's finding with these crossbows and
That you know as strong as it looks it does fizzle out. Yeah, this long sort of
a score play he just hit he spent so much time hitting that lumber cab loop my
friend Lou he's huge huge huge he's distracting you throw him on the
fronts you know was not watching he was distracting his microing look at the
Stalker fight with it's good. It's great with the movie cross
Oh my god, I think he
Finds his goldland by the way if he finds his gold line, just keep looping baby keep looping
Blinds gone though you thermalize to on wood
He's cracked him the cross was have been really thin
I think you can just go for this one right now.
Freeze Corpets can dive.
The talent center only has six villagers.
This is looking really good for Wagga.
You three will continue to kite.
Beautiful play from him so far, but I mean,
Wagga's got four villagers.
Oh my God, Wagga.
I did not think he was going to pull us one out.
Oh, we're on what?
Three bear reduction notes.
He knows what week this is on now.
He can loop.
He needs to find that gold.
He's got 600 wood.
He has so much wood floating.
Over the gold.
Don't hit the barrage.
You've got to loop.
Come on.
Come on, come on now.
It's not completely over 40 thermal, but look at this the Rams coming in he's gonna ram his ass
It's the perfect follow-up here break the buildings go for the town center
Yeah, but now there's so many scorpions 23 crossbows only will not break that they won't clear it
Shovel himself in through Satan's ass crack here use the space here on the right
you know like just use the space on the right like with your scorpions
that's why the crossbow man's are doing makes them avoid the scorpion fight look
he's trying to shovel himself in
this perfect moon arc yeah but it's fear I think it's kind of a direct path
to the town center we could just go for it it's not too bad yeah it's not working
When the Red Lightning Club would have access to the Townsenders basically empty
He almost can't get home with his crossbows because of the this because of Satan's hat crack as you call it
And the town center goes down
Ladies and gentlemen, Magus back to the crack. He goes through and now he thrills got no base
There's no Townsenders. The villagers are exposed. The looping has begun. The Magus are all over him right now
Now he's got him dead by right now.
He's got him.
Yep.
There's one of these guys here.
Challenge Attack.
Challenge Attack is okay actually from your thermal.
It's not too bad.
Oh wait.
It's not good.
Okay.
But we still have 20-ville lead.
Yeah.
And no town center, so that's not going to get any closer.
Wait, if you lose all the villagers, we can't play the game because we don't have
a town center.
He's down to 15 villagers.
You guys are gold at some point here.
Yo this counter-back is insane. Wagga has not spotted it. He's under the
town center. He doesn't even care. He is killing every single villager with the
crossbows. But I don't think it matters at this point. There's just not...
I guess he could kite forever and if he killed every vill. If he just every
villager and just every vill then there's every villager. That would be so crazy.
He's not reacting. Wagga hasn't noticed. He has not garrisoned. A single garrison
What ends this game completely right now?
What is this?
He has it done it.
You're terrible and it's going to have no villagers and you don't have there.
There's two left.
It's just two.
He kept playing.
GG.
Oh my god.
One villager, three thermal.
Wow.
I got equalized.
Equalizer.
Damn.
I don't have to say that wood line.
The wood line he built.
Honestly, that was mad talk.
He could have done a nice double cut and protected the back and then suddenly all these
Soldiers need to funnel through a TC and he could have been way more punished
Armor upgrade. What's wrong with this wood line? It's primo bro. It's premium. We just go on the front
We'll have to away. Yeah
He wants to be brash bold out in front. Yeah
So the solo cost him the game by the way like from the hole in the start
Like the constant pressure and castage taking those weird fights trying to hold that position
I said a huge credit to waga. He's taking a game out of everyone right now
He's taking you through with the deep waters. This is fantastic from Wagga 1-1 in the set so far
And it's unlikely we're gonna see arena from either player by the way, so you thermals home up next
We're probably gonna get more rabies if you're enjoying this content
It's about to be again, maybe three more games of this, which is fantastic
But Arabia is one of the Armenians. Yeah, that's what we're gonna see for sure
If it worked this game or work next game, I will say the coolest
Like subtle change that Wagga did this game that I thought was really impressive was get the second forward Siege
I think the extra Scorps and the Ram made all the difference just instead of a slow trickle
It was a big wave not allowed to fight the crossbows. That was really smart. I mean, I would have done that
So that was cool. I didn't like that he waited so much for the timing though
Remember when he hit castles like 30 seconds faster like a minute faster or something
And he just kind of waited in the middle for the siege workshops
I don't think you have to do that you just hit with the launchers first
Then set up your workshops and you should get the best of both worlds
You get the initial attack with that massive siege follow-up would have been like the perfect strategy
And something I'm noticing is like you need to like especially when I watch for example
I watch your games at the rebel, you know, what pros are doing their units are always
moving, always your units are always moving like they're never standing still everything
is always moving even if you just hit to get some information on the army maybe they
pulled their army to the left and then suddenly there's an opening to the right you need
to fish for that information always and obviously I would I suck at the game that's
already conclude that I'm just casting so I get to complain you know that's that's a
privilege yeah I mean I still too and the problem with that is when you try to make
your units move at our level you just run them into the town center like you don't
look at them and they died so you try to yeah try to hold them back to keep them
alive sometimes not moving is better than moving when you're not looking so
yeah fair enough obviously the pros are you got eyes everywhere so it's kind
of easier for us to keep track but you guys you're not playing a bad level
The level has been solid, but it's still not perfect, but it's a good call.
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incredible I think he's kind of undercutting my patreon though a little bit yeah I feel like
there's competition just like that it costs more and gives less uh he's uh he's he's walking
a lot of lost with infantry yet in this tournament or has it been literally undefeated I feel like
he's undefeated with role that's so wild I don't know what more he's got like I don't know
what he's got like he's got to play more than Armenian's Romans which he will if he wants
someone to set into and two more. What else does Waga have? That's like top tier.
I don't really know. He has a Japanese, a little Japanese that are
memorize. Yeah, Ramirite. Ramirite, he lost Celts already. Like, well, what's another
infantry line that you can... Vikings! Let's bring out the Vikings, dude.
Vikings, shout out H.R.O.X. Wait, he doesn't look like one. Come on, now.
I have to correct myself. He did lose with our minions against Captain Lance,
though. Shout out to the chat for reminding me. So, he's not undefeated, quite
undefeated but it's still pretty surprising me yeah it's been so good you know
so someone just reminded me you know I don't know I don't know how your
coaching sessions were at York but my first coaching session with Hera was
him me walking me through the tutorial of the game that's like going to a
nutritionist you spend 3,000 bucks to get a diet and he's telling me this is
how you chew food this is what pizza the biggest waste of time for how it's
getting through I'm here with the game and I have to play William Wallace campaign
The thing is I was like the top of the ranks and you're like wait, what are we doing here?
You had no idea you're installing the game getting the mods. I was like, okay
Let's just go through the William Wallace tutorial. It's like so funny, bro
I had no idea William Wallace tutorial
You can't even
Right click to move
This is a villager
My coaching with her is just him
Relentlessly shit talking me non-stop while I'm trying to play just in my ear telling me how bad every single
Yeah
From his terrible coaching it's not terrible
Arminians was a bunch of geese
Oh, this is me the main civilizations by the way, I am a little extra harsh with you a truck
Which is I see the potential that you can do and I just want to push you to live itself. It worked. It was really fun
Honestly, I had a great tournament. I'm fortunate the way it happened for me, but literally had a such a good time
I'm happy to be casting here. That's fantastic
Oh, I like that out of it at the very least you got in the castor booth a lot of experience
You know what you're talking about. It's great and we're seeing now our minions versus Portuguese Waga versus you thermal
Take it away. Mr. H rock. What are we seeing here with their minions?
I mean, our media is kind of similar to Romans, but it's correct me if I'm wrong, because I
actually haven't played our media.
I just thought about it.
Yeah, but it just hits even earlier because they can get long swords in feudal.
Yeah.
It's the same kind of idea, long swords flooding your base, but they can get them
even earlier and put on even more pressure.
Did you slam double racks and don't go castle and you just commit?
Is that the plan?
You can.
Or is it better to commit to castle and then to support it with siege?
I still think you want to get castle eventually because you need that extra armor upgrade
to actually be
Diving finish the game. Yeah, you can't really diagram fleshing town center without
Castle age armor upgrades. So yeah, I don't know
How do copy bar states like like for me? I'm surprised that they are being hunted. Yeah
I think we talked about it
We talked about it in the chat the other day because I was also one of the same thing and the cow was saying meat is meat
so apparently it's like
Normal I don't know meat is meat is crazy
the dogs and
That's what the chat human meat. Are you cannibals chat? No, you can't say meat is meat
Of course hair was wondering. Yeah, I was wondering the same. It's not about the food guys. Oh wonder what the capi borrow
They're so cute. Her is hungry dude. Her when you get 15 capi bear
They give them little scarves to you know, like the problem named them and shit like
Yeah, they put colored scarves
I think it's crazy that we can control them, you know, we can walk them into the TC is like it's crazy
They can scout that what are they delivering the information with how are they telling you that like there's a wood line over there?
Yeah, that's the age old question for age vampires, but yeah, it's just not everything's fully accurate here
We're looking at happy or back to our base as well. So, you know, it's kind of a scary animal
Let's see what Wagga can do in this early games on the Armenians.
Oh, Idle TC, Idle TC.
Idle TC, Idle TC.
Oh, that was an early Idle TC.
That's a lot.
30 seconds.
What's going on?
Bro, that's a whole last billy.
I think he might mill his chickens, which would be a mistake, by the way.
He's still idling his town center.
Wait, this is a disaster.
This is crazy.
What's going on?
Yeah.
Wow.
Two villagers worth of Idle TC for free.
It's still, it's still.
Okay.
There we go.
He's gonna mill the chickens.
Why is this bad? The reason it's bad is because Armenians can make a mule car on their chickens
They don't need to they don't need to mill it and the mule car could be used later on a lumber cap or on a mining camp or in replacing a
Mining camp and so making a mill on the chickens is actually really bad practice with Armenians
I told Wagga this I told Wagga not to do this but
He hasn't listened disappointed coach Hera. Yeah, well be able to listen. That's why I spent my time with grubby
That's all I'm saying.
Why are two chickens there at the same time? Is that a good split here 2-2?
Yeah, actually, it's correct because if you put all the 1-1, they're gonna be like dropping off too much
It's not too efficient, but so far like the IOPC is really killing them in my opinion
Kind of a bad start for Waga, but it is 1-1, even if this does fail due to like the IOPC
You still got some chances and your thermal is on a stressed at Portuguese one of his best civilizations here
Yeah, but you'd hate for a while that and our means is like maybe his trademark sip of all sims like the one he got
The two hundred we got four hundred points of like a week way or something. Yeah, it's been crazy with it
So it would be very unfortunate to lose it because you just forgot two bills. That's crazy
You never know you put the pressure on and all of a sudden maybe the other guy starts idling
Yeah, go ahead
No, I just why are we putting so many people on chicken though? Why shouldn't we have more lumber at the station?
The whole board everyone's eating chicken boys. This is the this is the origin story of KFC right here
Both and why are we putting the everybody on chicken? It's a bit excessive. I'm not gonna lie
Yeah, but you have to get food to get feudal first for you worry about would I think it's just too many on chicken
No one would
That carries would have been nice
That gold close by is fine
Also if this was a mule car he could just move it over
So you guys have seen the vision now so that that mill is kind of wasted there but
You know not the best archage from Waga but still he's gonna go to the metal arms
You see how strong he's been with those
I think the thermal though should adapt into this seeing the Armenians and just open archers
We don't really need the scouts. That's kind of my take here
Yeah, nice walls at the archers just do everything right
He is getting feudal a full minute faster
Which doesn't seem right. That does not seem like a correct way to for this to go, but
Well, that's not what I want to mention earlier
The reason why this is happening is that why good doesn't know he's got idle time
So he thinks he's actually on time
But he's actually a minute late because he's still trying to get the same amount of villagers
But he's at that minute idle time
The whole rush is delayed now by that 53 seconds. It's literally a direct consequence
Where's your thermal scout and all of this like the your thermal scouts is idling somewhere. Where is it?
That's a good question. Oh, I think it's Daisy. Yeah, he lost it. Yeah, well, I got killed.
Damn. No, Chad was done. He did kill the cow. This guy, I think, died of the TC.
Oh, yeah, right here. Oh, just blood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I hope I missed that. We're
talking about the chickens probably, but yeah, that was context.
I would read that. Is that meat, Chad? Meat is meat. That's what the chat said.
I like this though. You throw it's going to go for a range opening. This is fantastic.
Portuguese get a discount on all gold units and just opening archers with some walls. This feels like some crossword adaptation
I love this is the good count. Yeah, I mean it long sorts and the double wood lines are way better this time
Yeah, way better wood lines
Thermal could use a mining cap there we go
It's also a barriers on the front. It's a bit weird so like
Although the initial setup is good. I feel like you could run some problems long term here
Well, I got could probably just hit a house here not much more to be done
You just need to start slamming farms in it got some farms going there's so many on lumber
Second range. Whoa, this is new. That's different. That's crazy. Yeah, two Rangers is a lot of archers early
Very few farms make sense against the minions. As you know, what's coming? I think it does. Yeah, it's a blind counter
Kind of I mean, it's not that blind. He does see them now. You thermal doesn't know about the metal arms
But the two Rangers is gonna give you enough archers to where you can start folding the infantry around and also counter attacking
So I actually like it for your thermal and I feel like why got hasn't really dealt with two range archers before and Portuguese
Remember that discount is huge. So those archers are pretty cheap for them
I mean if you're a lot of the circles got to keep looping guys start punching something
Don't you have to abandon shit if you see to like
You can't really force long swords into this
What would you do here?
Talk about either you add a archery range and get scurms or you just loop around and get castle and then figure it out from there
But like staying in feudal even if you get longswords. I
Don't say how you break this if he's massing archers on a hill inside walls
Yeah, there's no amount of feudal age units. It's gonna break that. Yeah, I agree with you a truck and I think
He's gonna commit to the longswords and maybe it's okay to just pick up the longsword upgrade
But adding in more would be very very risky
I would like to see him get double BX and just kind of wall up and go towards the castle age
Where you can get some seed job because with seeds you can break this but without seed you've got some really powerful infantry
They're just infantry. They can't really range the villagers. They can't really reach the villagers. It's pretty bad situation here
Well, I mean it's gonna get the fire
They can get the horse out the fire
Yeah, they get gambesons through the yeah, they do gambesons and castles extra armor
You can get champions and castles for our minions with gambesons by the way very strong unit
Loom is so broke that village it was winning. Yep
But you turn wall
I'd be careful. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Hey, what we say what no damage?
What we're saying a truck. Oh my god, bro. Well, if he's gonna sin for
It's you sir. Wait, there's always been a good strategy to thermal just put five units in front of his town center
He will send villagers to you on repeat
You don't have to come to him. That's the trick. It's the you thermal counter. He's got armor now
It's Uber eats of villagers straight to your door. That's delicious to be fair a lot of idle PC
Prologa like two minutes and a half. This is terrible
It's idle to see that it's really counting out. I don't I don't know why why guys so much out TC
Yeah, he hasn't even been pressured yet
But
Proxy racks commit arson start punching buildings. Oh, no, it's you the committee here is crazy by the way
I can't come in after have so many
We're cooked. No, no, it's fine. We're probably behind it. We didn't lose them
So we didn't pay for them, which is kind of okay. It's still bad, but it's not terrible
It's horrible, but not terrible as death note say
He didn't get any upgrades. I mean, yeah, he's he isn't in a bad spot, but he's running around
Trying to do the wider classic
Castle yeah, he's getting different spots. It's pretty good
But I mean look at your thermal it's just like artists positioned everywhere the more while you invest into this the worst
The situation is and he keeps two in long sorts. I think yeah
I think the second racks is getting the fire by the way shout out you matter. Oh
Not that good. Yeah
Now once you see them, this is my experience, when they have two separate groups of archers
that they're comfortable moving around, give it up.
That's right.
When they still have one, you can kind of like da hit one side, go to the other side,
hit one side.
When they have two and they're big enough that you can't fight, it's like you're
never ever ever breaking there.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Pirates coming into arson, fully teched.
Now arson will give them extra damage against buildings.
That's a plus two attack versus buildings.
Chief tech to pick up as well. It's nice. But again, a lot of archers coming out and a truck
We've been counter attacking from Zartras could be really scary. You talked about this last game
Ridiculously scary. They just they walk towards your base something you realize that I'm the one on the back foot
You don't have
Yeah, you had a mass bill a tower or something
But that means doing a good job right here like running these long swords around and keeping the archers busy is the dream
They think they're chasing me. I mean, you don't want to lose any long swords, but
They think they're chasing you, but really you're so happy those archers just not in your base killing your villagers
He's kind of doing some dodged micro, which is kind of cool. I don't know if it's working
Man these archers are real. Yeah, and remember it's
These guys not as tankies the men are from Romans like they got boys people got less armors like the archers gonna melt through them
You gotta continue running but running is not gonna help you win the game
So your thermal is just kind of taking the map control now
It's sort of the 20 arches 17 arches looking really good here a run by here completely missed this a run by
But it doesn't really find much
Not bad
I mean equalized the Ville count which is pretty good for a three and a half mile TC four bills
It's pretty good actually
Yeah, I mean mints why go always finds a way to get value out of the signature
Which is like so impressive given how bad that start with
If he doesn't my name, he's okay
But this is gonna be so scary
Yeah
He's the coolest guy in the town center he's got 15 he's got a little unbothered
It's a kind of reasonable really solid, but yeah, they truck not feel this one
If the infantry can't really fight the archers at all. I'm gonna see a tower on the wood
I actually really like that because you can always move the whip to the other side.
I feel like the gold is a little bit better.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean maybe you wouldn't even see the gold.
The thermals up the castle.
This game is completely domination.
Yeah, honestly he was so ready for it.
Yeah.
The gold with the block tree range is crazy.
Yeah, I think what we're seeing here as well is that your thermal has a skill level now.
To actually hard punish anyone who's being predictable.
So to beat you thermal you gotta have like different strategies you can pull out
You have to be able to adapt as well because he's in a hard counter you and if you can't make the adaptation like waga
Not a one trick but a little kind of one-dimensional in his gameplay and get saved on the villager
It's getting hard punished by this level that you thermals bring into the table
Which is pretty heartbreaking for our wagas our minions, but of course you still has a chance in the set
You thermal scary man. He looks locked in he looks like he's on a death rampage after losing in winners
I think he's he's gonna
Try to rip through the lower bracket. He just seems
Like a terminator
Hey thermal looping around with two groups of archers. He's doing a really good job so far
I'm fortunate walking to run why I was trying to survive if it's still few overs feudal
It's playable, but as soon as you thermals cast it in 45 seconds. It's completely completely over like there's literally no chance
You're holding crossbows. He's just probably gonna come next and dude. This is nasty. Nothing's working all the villagers on strike
He's homeless. He's on welfare right now. They're going bro. They're immigrating
Going to the next game boys Gigi the chat
Takes the way that was a clinical take down that strategy
That's been like such a strong strategy and you thermal showed exactly how to stop it. Yeah, basically our gap
I tell you basically our gap very well-placed palisades and that triangle that shape was just amazing
Oh, look about just a funnel through the DC. It's really good
By the way, you can also smartly give up the berries by the way, which for Portuguese that's a hard call to make
Because they get a berry bonus. They if they take the berries they get a little bit of wood as well
So berries it's a hard call to make but I think it was the smart call to make
It's just no risk. Just not gonna let you take
Villager damage by the way, I'm hearing from the chat that they want your motto to be invited to the garrison
A-Truck is going to be casting at the Garrison.
What the Garrison is, guys, the Garrison 2 is coming up this November in 2026.
My team vitality is involved.
Let me show it on the screen, actually.
Maybe people on the chat will be able to take a picture.
Let me do the hosting of the Alice Desk.
You know, I have a friend who knows a guy who knows a guy
that was supposed to connect me with the guys of this event.
But I have a better connection right here.
Okay, you're battle.
I'm asking you, I'm too slow, man.
We could get you in, but let me tell the chat what it is.
It's a tournament in November this year in Hamburg. It's a land event all the best players in the world will be there
It's in an S tier land event 1v1 tournament
They're selling tickets right now if you guys want to go to being eastwards comm. They're hosting it alongside vitality my team
There's a thousand tickets available. Some of them have already been sold
There's only a few hundred left you want to go ahead and pick them up you can find them here
It's gonna be a really nice event a trucks casting it. I'm gonna be there your motto might be the host
I'll let you guys know I'm gonna ask him out. I'll ask for you if the space to get you in castor or host
Okay, I'm out of yeah, let me do interviews to hosting. Let me do casting
Okay castors you probably have some go to you know, you got Daniela in there
You know, you got the goats already like let me do something well without the works with my skills
So, you know, I wouldn't want to take anything to the goat that they we castors, you know
Because it's a serious tournament, you know
Hosting the interview when all right. We'll see you mine guys
You want to pick up the tickets definitely pick them up right now
It's gonna be an event later this year 25th to 29th of November in Hamburg pick up your tickets
It'd be a nice treatment theater check it out and support the events
Back to our set though here. We have Wagamama versus you thermal giving up for the game number four to me wagas home map
We see the the cams and Wagas looks locked in by the way
It's do or die for Wagas. He loses this game is out of the tournament
So he's got a lock-in, but what does he go for a truck? He's used Romans and I don't know
I was gonna ask you that I don't know what
Ramurai is coming Ramurai Ramurai
Could be as well to be privets to arena. He could just pivot to arena. Oh, that's that seems to be like the desperate move
Right you pivot to arena. Yeah, you throw my hate Serena. You throw my hate Serena by the way
So like if that's anything arena pretty good
It really stresses him out arena. So that I would go there just for the mental boom
But it seems like walking as a Arabia player. I don't know that he would want to change
He did a really nice strategy against Singsing though. He went on red instead of Fortress, obviously not Arena, but
He went for the Longbowman and got a really nice late game army composition with Longbowman Halb.
It looked beautiful. You could in theory do that on Arena. You could just go Britain's, boom to Longbowman.
So that's like kind of part of his arsenal. Just gonna quickly show this on the screen here. So
Right now here guys, we have Grubby versus Knoth, the second loser bracket set for today
Or the last loser bracket set for today. This will not be played today. This will be played tomorrow
As the first set of the day, okay, so keep this in mind that gravity versus Knopf could happen tomorrow
We'll keep you guys updated on that
So this is the potential last game of the day here, it's certainly the last set
So it's one game or two more games for the day. Let's see if if mr.
Wagga has it in them to take you to them on a match point
I'm really impressed that Grubby has not asked for any help since the tournament started.
I accept him to be in my ear every night like, hey, what do I do here?
But he actually hasn't asked me anything, so that's what it is.
He's moved on.
He's found other coaches.
Yeah.
I got busy and you just needed that concert attention. Shout out to all the coaches, by the way for everyone who played in this tournament
It's been very very obvious how extremely helpful they've all been. I think we all would be way way worse without I mean
They they've brought builds. They've walked the replays. They've done so much nice stuff off. Yeah
By the way, I'm telling you that there's some niche things that I for some reason know a little bit better than some of these guys that
that have 1,000 Elon more than me.
As good as RedForce gave me the secret source details,
shout out to him, yeah?
Yeah, by the way, I'm just saying.
And the soft res and the Palisade walls for all that shit.
Yeah, when you say cuts,
I know you've been studying with RedForce.
That's exactly how he's done it.
Yeah, I just want to ask RedForce for help, go for it.
Yeah, you're coming off three times.
Thank you so much.
Just want to say, let the chat know
that the coaches will be getting compensated.
I don't have budget for Microsoft.
I'm using the donations from the chat
to compensate the coaches afterwards.
like a huge head to the coaches, they're not going to get paid a full salary obviously,
but it's limited. But I'm going to be making sure that the people put in the way, the work
will get paid something at least. So just quickly mentioned that in the boss coach.
So I take a large percentage. Yeah, I'm thinking grubby grubby's money. That's for sure.
Because it's got all day. I'm good. I'm good. I got the viewers here. We're good.
The coaches, I didn't play Mullians already. Am I crazy? Nope. You are crazy. That
you thermal that played the Malians. So now it's Wagas time. Okay. I thought it was like fearless.
Yeah, it's not like fearless from League of Legends exactly here. That is a good drafting system,
but here in Age of Empires, 10 pick no repeat for each player that usually happens. At least for
now, ejecting dominance at 10 gifted in the chat. I really appreciate that bro. Fourth game here,
Malians for Wagas. He's likely to play the more infantry style. Hrock, you talked about the
the malians earlier I think you consider them for yourself with extra pure
summer what do you think about the malians and I did use the malians
against you thermal I tried to do a all-in forward double archery range
omega cheese but I think grubby tried later in the tournament as well
and it uh well by the way you thermal in chat saying he's never played my
before but YOLO he's gonna give it a shot
that's the hilarious by the way uh this is the strategy I mean the one that
I saw Viper do it I just saw a video of Viper doing it it looks
Super super busted and I thought I'd try it didn't work out for me, but I don't know if he's gonna do that
I give it to play a standard game
Right, I just say a truck a thousand hours of air coaching out the window one Viper video
And you just use that strategy and lose of it. My goodness, bro
I have some in my head. I was like you have to have cool pocket builds in this tournament
If you just do you think people know you for that you practice on ladder, you're gonna get cooked
That's in my mind. That's what it was
You tell grubby you and tell grubby anything if you asked you you tell exactly what my strats are
You ought to come in here
Just with the game. You're just Molly and I'm just reading up the bonuses. It's another infantry
Barak units having like the the pierce armor from the get go. It's kind of nice
Buildings cost less wood as well. I think waga mama's is gonna do the same mold
He's gonna be attacking me instantly.
By the way, by the way, Yutrimul didn't pick up a loom with Mayans.
He was idle in his town center for 24 seconds.
You're supposed to pick up a loom.
That just shows that he's actually not joking.
He's first time in Mayans.
He's got no clue.
You know that on first game with Mayans.
So that's hilarious.
That's so beautiful.
How does elephant taste?
It tastes like for an animal.
That's not an animal.
It looks good.
It looks like it's just like...
Does it look good?
Yeah, it looks tasty.
Definitely.
like it's it's a it's a fat animal
it's a great burger you wouldn't have an elephant burger you wouldn't
enjoy it so much it's not a safari cow yeah it's exactly it's a big
safari cow it's got to be tasty as hell
he thermals across the map saying he can't lay my team at ethical but he's
looking for something he missed those uh two goats just barely
uh but here we go wagga under the town center by the way maybe getting a
a little too close. Oh, dodge.
And a good dodge though.
By the way, you can have a lot of scout last game and still won the game, so keep that in mind here that Waga, you know, he needs to show us something here that's going to win the game.
Malians are good though with the tanky infantry, very similar to the Romans, and he did snag the win with the Romans, so we'll see if maybe Malians can bring something similar to the table.
Malian's could kind of counter mines in some way, mine is like a very archer-sive, no cavalry, you have some eagles
But they kind of died to long swords as well
So like mine's here, it's good for the archers or they're gonna get cheaper archers
But they could play into the strengths of Malian's especially the way Wagga likes to play them
Then I assume from Uthermo's POV he's gonna do exactly what he did last game. It worked out so well
Wagga hasn't shown he can handle that or like has a plan for it with his normal play style
I don't know why you wouldn't just double archer same thing. Yep make him prove that he can handle it
Yeah, I kind of agree with that just do the same thing that worked last game
You have a decent map to wall here
You can just wall a little bit of an arc to keep your gold safe little wall here and they just have to defend the front of your base
I mean there's been a bit a little bit nasty
But we saw last game we can just kind of give those up and you'll be fine for the most part
I hope to see some adaptations from Wagga if we do see the two ranges out of your thermal
Maybe like stop making men arms and feudal and just play towards the passenger castle edge
Obviously, we're getting ahead of ourselves now. Let's see how it develops into this early game
No auto TC from Wagga this time the only six seconds way better than last game very good
I would look like a mama
Just I just want to see him to back his barrack push with just an archery range and just start making scums
Just just do do the next step in this rock paper scissor game. I
Love that your motto. That's actually really smart
That's how the meta shapes internments by the way like one guy's going infantry other guy hard counters him two inch archers
Then this guy's like wait
I just skip the infantry display
Scriversers and so it's skirmishers against a guy on two range archers and you're just laughing at him, right?
So that's a great adaptation and a great call from you Meadow
I don't know flag is the kind of guy to do that
He seems to be very disciplined always going for what he practiced and it's gonna be unfortunately
For any adapters in the chat. We're gonna have just militia coming up for Laga. He's sticking to the game plan
Yeah
Because this is a nice fast feudal he's getting the three are gonna hit on a good timing if he does it right yeah
And that I'm telling I'm wrong, but isn't that the first three kind of never wrong. It's never bad
Yeah, you can always yeah, you always put pressure make them wall. I
Agree that you can afford three for free basically like you have the X the excess meat in the stockpile
Three is fine, but no it's a full commitment again
So what you're saying is correct. You've got three men of arms that are switched to a range
But when you go for like the five militia into the men of arms into the blacksmith, this is a full committal from waga
He's going to do the exact same thing he's been doing and you thermal man
He's already on the gold a little bit late than a pretty suspicious mining camp. He's he's constantly walling dude
He's having trouble walling this by the way. He's walled it rewalled it
This looks really weird to anyone who's played a demand price for more than a few years
You know this wall is looking a little suspicious
But uh, well, that's a bit challenging when you're new these guys are pretty new to me have an archer range by now
Am I crazy? You just build it right? Yeah, that's the yeah, you would he's gonna go for now
Okay, he's gonna give up the various again by the way, but to be fair like he's gonna late to the wall
They sound late to a lot of things this rush is sitting a lot earlier than last game. Do you know?
This is
All the food all the woodline are exposed. Oh this quick was this house. There's holes for sure
There's holes for sure. There's holes for sure
Is there oh my god what that's a hole that's a hole
So
Bro that's touching
No, that's both of us wood lines, bro
It's arc them on hills and
Armour is coming in now
And remember, Malians have that extra pierce armour
So with this armour, you can have three pierce armour, which is exactly like the Romans
These guys are very, very solid
With the Malians here
He's going for the safe res though, under the TC
He's just gonna run out quick though
Yeah
Again, like, no berries, no woodlines
Dude, we're taking nothing, we're on straggler trees and it's all sliders
Yeah
I'm hitting this gold, by the way, I'm fountain diving past the gold
I don't think that's the right call
No, I didn't do that
Yeah, maybe you would do that, if I don't...
I'm just doing a little Tokyo Drift, you know. Just to get to the goal.
Yeah, it sounds like a good idea, but when you're already on both woodlands here, I think you're fine.
It's getting to fire, though. I think you might be a big fan of that one.
Yeah, I like it, but where's the backup archery range?
If skirmes were starting to flow in now, that could have been delicious.
or just a hundred farms and go castle like they've done so much damage he's
stuck you're not gonna get much more than this you don't know yet more it's a
bit of an over time to kill him in feudal is like near damn impossible you
gotta just I think that's like the adaptation that why I need to make
like maybe maybe skirmish is a bit too out there but just a kind of cutting
production here that being said this is fantastic the stragglers have run
out than the villagers. Another one. The Usurma villager classic. The Usurma villager, luckily
there is loom but at the very least, the Lagas DC idle time has been kind of creeping up
but he's getting really good value here with the men of arms killed. One member count
forced another one out. The bird man. What's happening when he's worked is would he
be pulling? What are they doing? I actually don't know what they're doing. They don't
care they are so crazy he's dropped seven villagers what the hell is the message you
can't pull us out of our home you're going off to make a nature of what is this
oh that's wild I don't know why he did that that made it so much worse he was
kind of home I mean you know it's crazy they're still even there because
because Waga has idle TC during the push again.
That reminds me of school time, you know, when you couldn't brawl with someone else on school time,
because then you get in trouble with the teachers and they say,
we're going to meet here at four o'clock.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm the parking lot.
Yeah, 315, parking lot.
That's fantastic.
You know, it's just a meeting at the corner in the woods.
By the way, behind this two Barrick follow-ups,
Waga is still committing to more men arms. He is dropping more farms though compared to
your thermal. Thermal has two farms, kind of poverty economy over here with 14 farms and some
berries from Waga. So he's eating well and he's doing to flood these men arms. But guys,
you saw this in the first game, the numbers of archer from your thermal. It's looking scary.
Like we got 10 now. I really think we need cast lich from Waga. You can't keep diving this now.
Dude, if he would just cut production after six or seven.
bro now but literally that's the number I think it's right I think it's the
right number six or seven I think he's so so he's doing the damage
I didn't say that you spot on there a drunk it is the right number but I have to say I
have to add though the looping could also be improved yes this gold line and the
wood line was very exposed if those three guys that have just been
hitting palisades for five minutes straight these open dudes busy
they're afraid to what's a bigger hole to be busy you know
they're faking it yeah they don't want to die in the archers brother just
pretending to do work that's the guy in the group project that just puts his
name on the paper it hasn't done shit yeah walk is gonna send them to their
death bro they don't want to see that
it's in a wall
all right this guy Raveman arm has killed an archer but he does go down but the
looping's okay it can't be a certainly a little bit better but Waga's doing well
the thing is though we're just kind of like investing all of our army or all
of our research into our max no i think we just need market and up here
market and up would be so good for waga here
he caught up in the worker production though that's kind of nice
34-31 here.
Thermal is on the back foot, and still more army for Wager, by the way.
So, like, you think we can't really move out, but Fletching coming in here is really nice.
If someone does have the market to help balance out his economy, he's got a lot of wood,
and Josh is making a very bad economy.
You know what he co-upgrades, either.
Scouts just go down, and Wager continues to do the hitting in multiple sides that he's known for.
Yeah, and he's doing it way better this game than the last game.
But Fletching is in now, so that archer ball is just unstoppable by Militia and Feudal.
So it's not gonna happen. Yeah
They can kite they can destroy and
So you gotta get castle you just got to do it
Intentive fight into this you're just gonna lose army for free like you can like bully the archers back a bit
But like if you got space to kite it should be fine. You're terrible
Well, it's about it though long. Yeah, you can't stand still. That's the only thing
You could flank with the three homies that are hitting them hitting them from the back. Yep
Maybe it could do some damage like that.
Oh, the mill is still open, by the way.
I'm pretty sure the mill is still open here.
There's still an opening here. I'm pretty sure.
If that's a hole, Microsoft needs to get to work.
That looks like a wall.
That's a rock solid wall.
He doesn't use the rally trick.
The rally trick is so open in this game.
The rally trick?
Just rally one of the racks into the house
and they will find all the holes.
by the way counter-attack me thermal he's done this every game and he's found
good success with it maybe a tower of the gold is needed wagons almost up the
castles by the way he is missing that market those who still needs the market
but go for a few a few quick walls with the archers he doesn't have the wood
yeah he doesn't have a second building which means he can't go castle even if
he has the golden through which he does yeah I think I try to go
good looping though how's it gonna get 175 wood in the next I guess that's
soon I don't drop it like that we'll just do it yeah so it's gonna be like
watch power here to defend drop the wood off market cheaper for Malia and so you
can just make it right now there we go and then we have to cast it after I
didn't know that look at that looping all the loom though it's crazy
that was really good here you need to kill a few of these archers if
If there's just like five left, you don't really care about them.
You start to chase them, though, with the men-armed stuff.
You can't leave them.
The men-armed stuff, they're just coming off.
That's still a castleage, it's huge.
Maybe he doesn't have it yet, does he?
Is he starting it?
On the way soon, on the way soon.
I'm praying for it.
It's gonna be a painful few minutes for Waga, though, here.
Like, Volkan's evened out and he's just not gonna click up the castleage.
He'll be really strong when he hits castleage, but he's quite weak until he gets there
and the archers are running all over his base.
He might go in. Yeah, Ethan might go in there.
Oh, Ethan was looking for a quick wall.
The gate, quick wall.
Oh, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad.
It's not bad from Wagga. Well played the quick wall from him
and the archers go down. Raised he played from Wagga.
Wait, that was so good. That's really good.
That could have gone so...
There's much coming though. Look at the left as well.
There's another flank of archers on the right.
It's an archer burger. Look at the maneuver from the left too.
I like this.
Got three homies coming through.
Yeah, but on the water side, you kinda,
as long as you don't lose Vils, you kinda like this
because you wanna thin these archers out.
Yeah. Yeah.
But you throw them as flying castles.
She's got that market.
This is really good for him.
But like you said, Hrock,
thinning out the archers is the right call.
You got a lot of metal armor now.
Just don't lose them right here.
I don't think you wanna fight this.
Don't lose them!
Lose them!
Just don't do this.
I
Mean relatively even
Sun soon would say you know split up your army and then I would like to see like like six of these man alarm
Just make a long loop around. They you turn back and then just pincer them. Is that one of your coaches sons?
I think Squires first, Squires first could be good, Longswords, Tower on the Wood, I
I actually kind of like that. I had to buy that stone,
but I think that's a good idea because now I can just attack.
Wagga's much better on offense than he is on defense with these infantry.
So just tower to defend and just go for it.
If there is a loop in here, no matter.
You'd be proud of this one, but the tower's there to cut off that loop.
I think Wagga just goes straight for this one.
Straight across the map.
Wait, just go for the-
Run, run, run, run, run.
Your channel is in the rags.
This is your time to go.
See, this is a int rags. Release him!
Yeah, release him.
I get to get him out.
Here are my homies.
Longstrips coming in.
Squires, there we go.
Remember, Malin's got his extra pierce armor.
In Cassage, there's a one plus three.
They're about to be one plus four,
which is the same as the Romans.
Romans get two plus three, which is five.
Here we go, one plus four, which is five.
Beast.
He's still not leveraging the Cassage.
Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
Yeah.
You gotta go now.
Cassage for your thermal.
Don't go back.
You've got the long suits.
You've got the armor.
This army does nothing.
You can fight this right now.
I think it's still open.
Your thermal has walled amaze.
If that wall is open, I'm gonna laugh so hard.
If it's open, you bet your ass it's open, by the way.
There's 50 buildings there, Hera.
How is that open?
I see the path.
My mind is like, I see through the maze
and I see the path.
It's like the blue ones, TD, they're looping through.
Yeah, exactly.
There's one path for the blue ones
that they're gonna go for.
Water's stressing me out, bro.
Why is he not attacking?
I'm getting so stressed.
I think he's waiting for the CG again.
All these units, and you get the upgrades early,
and then you're just like chilling.
I think he respects the way he's scared of.
For that Sing Sing, he was running at Sing Sing like an animal by the way,
and you throw him away just showing him so much respect, I don't like that.
I think Wagga's a bit scared here.
I think it's so funny that he just respects Sing Sing.
Yes, he does not respect Sing Sing at all.
Sing Sing is a bug I can crush, but you throw him away most deeply respect.
Bro, imagine if some of these soldiers were just in the woods
and you just created like a flank on these guys right now.
I actually see the vision.
The pincer would be good there.
He needs to be a lot of burger him right now.
But bro, he's putting himself in the corner bro.
What is this?
Hanzo would say never do this.
What is going on?
The cock chair of the forest is getting ripped dude.
It's terrible.
Kill move, kill move.
It's not like it's good.
Got that good micro. This was one of the worst engagements I've seen from Wagga. He must be tired or something
This is not it for the infantry though. Very sad to see this
Oh, dude, that's so sad to see this is how it ends like Wagga could have done so much more with that army
I feel like I'd rather see this be a game where Wagga is attacked and doled with thermal
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess in the Romans game, he waited and it worked.
Maybe he thought I could do that again.
I agree. To his credit, it did.
He won that game when it was really well done.
Yeah. But he's a power spike.
And so to not use your power spike is just a missed opportunity.
Yeah. But I mean, to his credit,
you thermal is just so impressive and scary.
Like he's just, his archers are really, really good.
He always gets a lot of them.
his macro is crazy and then he doesn't forget about them so they're always moving.
He's also really aggressive with his archers. Something that a lot of players don't do, they like back away from scorpions.
He just fights into them which is really hard. Like we see their repairs, but he never just fights through like five those repairing.
And it's relentless to deal with it. It's just the GG here. Yeah, GG well played. Wow. Uthermal takes the game.
Go 7 soldier.
Oh, just a G.
Well played. Uthermal, just one G. You didn't even deserve the second G.
Thank you
Respect is there guys
These guys are on the same team your thermal was the captain GG in the chat here 3-1 for your thermal to beat out waga and
course
Guys, waga had a great tournament. It got sing-sing, but that's the end of the run for the toe to two guys
Let's get an oh seven in the chat for waga. He had a great tournament
I love what he brought to the table such a nice guys well and
He really showed up man. He brought some good strategy. Oh, yeah, he tipped them far was fantastic
I mean, just to be clear, while I gained 400 elo in like three or four days, I've never
seen anyone do that in the history of like almost any competitive game.
Now, he mastered this impetuous thing.
He just took to it so well.
Yeah.
And he only lost because he didn't have like a variety of strategies due to not having
time to master them.
So he stuck to one strategy.
It worked really well.
And he met one of the favorites in the tournament that had to do a specific counter to the
strategy.
Even have a chance.
had this hard counter it the game where he played a standard you know standard scouts into archers
it just didn't work out and Wagga still killed him that game so you know he took you down with
the deep waters and it worked out really well for a while and well played you've been saying deep
waters the whole tournament bro i've been watching a lot you say deep waters every say i love it
so good pick at the deep waters bro it's so good thank you man you never used to say that
you're saying all the time now bro your deep waters hrock i don't say it when i'm with
with you because I'm just flaming you at the time.
You take nobody's pee waters.
You're in shallow waters and you're drowning
in shallow waters, they're talking or coaching sessions.
You're drowning in the shallow end.
So I don't need to stay out.
I know it didn't go well today,
but you gotta give me credit, bro.
I think I picked it up at the end.
The whole ladder I was doing bad.
I picked it up at the end.
Yeah, I will say.
Psychoman, I think it's a 25 gifted by the way.
I get a W, Mr. Psychoman in the chat.
It's a big, big gifted subs.
Before we end off the stream though,
You want to give a little look at the bracket here in HR.
Maybe you can give your thoughts to Mato as well.
Don't go anywhere.
You think of what will be Wagga.
He said it'd be in the loser bracket semifinal.
This set, Grubby Cronford is supposed to be played today.
It's not played.
So let's take a look at the matchups tomorrow.
It's going to be the top four in the world tomorrow,
not in the world, but in this tournament tomorrow.
Captain Lance for Spig, upper bracket final,
thoughts to Mato, go.
I gotta say, I think what Piggy did against Grubby
today was insanely impressive.
So Captain Lance got that range in terms of ability and skill, so I think that that's going
to be a close one, goes to five games.
I think Captain Lance, just because he rated me right now, he's going to win it.
He's easily braved.
And then I don't know, I'm just feeling about you thermal.
I think that the way he plays is so authentic, you know, it's so authentic.
And he has like a feel.
And I think that is so powerful and best of fives, because I think anyone that climbed
the ladder through coaching, did it in a very methodical way and kind of one
gains the same way because everyone has a style. I think Uthermo was the one that
has just because he kind of taught himself in some strange ways, he's very
flexible and adapts in the middle of a best of five series. So I think just
because base of that, best of fives all the way, I think Uthermo's gonna take the
whole tournament. You've been rocking with Uthermo. We actually have Vlaga
Mama on Voice by the way. Vlaga just dropped Uthermo but Vlaga, what
a beautiful performance from you this tournament. You took out Sing Sing, you took out Mr. Lamo
had a good run, you took out the Spiffing Brits which was here for a good time, he's
a great guy but you know not the best player of course. But you've had a run, well played
my friend and how do you enjoy the tournament?
I think it was so much fun. This game is so awesome. I really just, you know the
entire part, the ladder race but also the team component. I think it was an enjoyable
time. I did join kind of late because you know I wasn't sure that I was going
be able to do it or not but I'm really happy I got to take part of this and I tried to do
one thing and do it as good as I could and honestly it was very satisfying to try and refine it.
Bro it's not a say. You were an inspiration to infantry chads everywhere. Yes. Infantry chads
look up to you man you're a king. I've seen your Roma I've seen you out there smashing too.
You're a 10-on-10 striker.
I'm the poster of you on my wall, dude.
I'm just trying to deal with you.
I mean, I just find it, yeah, sub-Yamato.
Dude, your cast have been amazing.
I've been listening in.
Bro, I really enjoy your style, bro.
I feel like the infantry units are the coolest units
in the game by far.
They just walk like terminators.
And I saw the video that Harold dropped on your style,
and I almost switched completely just based off of your gameplay.
But I was too much of a pussy.
I just kept doing the castles up and it didn't work out for me
I should have stuck to the men like you did and I think you went down like in a in a in a cool ass explosion
You went down the right way making men at arms, and I respect that bro. I respect that so much
You are you are gangsta. We should do a show match sometime. You and me. I'm a tourist infantry, you know
We can enjoy it. Yeah, just meet in the middle, you know
I mean, I mean, a final for me, my final says just I remember playing this game long ago
and I remember infantry being absolute ass like I'm playable. So I'm just happy the game
is in a balance where like, you can do it. Like, I'm not, I'm not very experienced. I'm
not very good. I'm sure that with good experience and like knowledge, you can probably push
pretty high with infantry as your main components obviously would probably be
good to make other units here and there.
Yeah, uh, absolutely.
Well, I got like infantry got buffs like a year or so ago and now like they're
very solid, but as you thermal showed, they're counterable, but not with just
anything.
You have to do a specific counter to infantry, uh, which I think is a
really healthy game state to have.
Like infantry is a strategy you must respect and when you thermal might
have not expected it, might have not respected it.
you were able to take that win and you know you kind of walked through
syncing as well with the infantry a couple holes there but still a great
performance from you so yeah 100% support that like infantry balance is pretty
good right now and it's nice to see it viable but not overpowered. Yeah gotta
say why is it called infantry bro? I thought it's like at first when I
heard that I thought a bunch of babies are watching forward. I mean I did have
A bunch of labies walking forward in my Roman game because I didn't have armor for like the first 5 seconds.
Dude, that was crazy.
I was thinking like, why are they taking so much damage?
I didn't realize that.
I just don't want that game though, impressive.
I mean, I will carry that with me after this tournament.
I should take a game of, you know, an RTS Gold without my fucking armor upgrade.
So, I'm happy.
That's pretty damn impressive.
Waga, a question from the admin actually.
He's wondering about the Team U thermal chemistry.
What can you say about that?
It's been absolutely amazing, honestly.
I think we've had like good vibes from the start,
just all the people.
I mean, Ajuxin is the MVP, I think.
He's like, absolutely just a 10 out of 10 character
I didn't know before this event.
So a big shout out to him.
But also I want to say like,
everybody has been just great.
You know, like the entire team was fantastic.
Love that, love that.
Listen, we're gonna wrap up the show here.
Tomorrow we're gonna have a few matches to look forward
We're gonna start the show with Knopf versus Grubby and then we're likely to have the loser bracket semis right after that
Which is gonna be you thermal versus the winner of Knopf versus Grubby
Then after that of course the upper bracket final the loser bracket final and the grand final guys tomorrow is the final day
It's the Sunday. It's the last day
Lastly we'll talk about today's a truck for swag and mama show match if you guys are down
We can set it up on Tuesday because Monday we have the team games on Tuesday
We can make that happen if you guys won
Oh, yeah, I do have some stuff lined up, but I can probably find some time so yeah
We can probably make it happen
It's not too early in the morning, you know
Can I say one thing about this bracket just before we close out and if you were to ask anyone any betting man
Yeah, at the end of the ladder race who would be in winners finals almost everybody would have said grubby you thermal
This is so crazy that it's Captain Lance Pig and these two killers are still in
the losers' bracket.
So I don't know.
It's kind of anyone's tournament.
I don't know if anyone could predict the winner from here.
It's, I thought it would be way more obviously a grubby,
you thermal cut above everyone said before I hosted this a truck.
Everybody said, why do you invite grubby?
He's just going to stop everyone.
I was like, no, I said that you in calls off line a hundred times.
I was so wrong.
That's pig is incredible. Yeah, and grubby could still easily rip through the losers back
I don't know. It's a much closer tournament than I expected which is really cool
Grubby can make the loser bracket run so can you thermal Knopf is the heavy underdog?
I'm not counting him out. You never really know he can make that run happen
But he's the underdog and of course Captain Lance pig
Winner of that gonna be heavily favored going to that last round haven't you know one of them will be undefeated going to the
Grand finals so yeah, fantastic fantastic sets a truck last call last thing for the chat
Same for your motto same for waga and then I'll wrap the show up for the night
Yo, can I call dibs on finals?
We'll do the casting schedule tomorrow, but you want to cast the final tomorrow?
Because I'm busy. I'm busy in the morning and I'll be here for the finals. You matter a truck
I don't a truck. If you confirm it's confirmed. Oh
I can't confirm on camera. I don't want to say anything that I can't commit to 100%
So let me talk to you offline and figure it out. Sounds good, bro. You matter
You might be asleep. You might be asleep. We'll see how it goes. We'll try to get you in there.
We'll figure it out, but all right. Well, I got an HR class call here.
I'll do my last four. I just want to say, you know, I'm super, super sorry to anyone who wanted to see me compete.
I'm sorry I missed today. I stood up till 4am grinding builds. I'm not a tournament player.
You know, I should know to keep my outside of game as healthy as the inside of game.
But I had a really good time with this thing. The ladder right was so much fun.
My match with Dana was so much fun. I had a great time. I'm wishing Kanoff best of luck tomorrow.
I think I have no chance for his grubby anyway, so it's like give him to give him the shot and
Yeah, just this is all a huge blast for me. I'm not normally a gamer so I'm streamed. This is a really fun little side thing
I love that a truck. I'm really happy you're able to commit to this event
I know you're a busy guy and the fact that you actually took this seriously had a good ass one and honestly
I think you had a lot of potential if not for the incident today
But I'm really proud of you honestly you did very well
And I'm glad we have you for the casting at least so well done. He talks loose in the chapter him and of course you're still on voice
It's a little awkward. You'll see the solutes fly out though, but you know what done bro
Well, I'm a rare cop in the community with some financial advice. Give us some financial advice
space yeah
Yeah, all in on space X and if you're you thermal stop sitting your villagers to die
You'll have way more money. You'll have way more money now. That's a big advice to you
That's very good. All right. Last words manga and then I'll wrap up the show manga. Let's hear it, bro
Yeah, just thank you so much for having me here. You know, I I did make some some concessions for this
I have to cast in like seven hours. I start casting TI qualifiers
In Dota, so I gotta go to sleep now wake up and straight to casting so it's been a great fun
You know, I think this game is epic and it's cool to see all the people who have enjoyed watching this love it
Thank you all. Thank you all very much. Have a great night everyone and I'll see you guys tomorrow. Peace out
All right guys, bro. I love the cast we have in here and I love the viewers
I don't know how many viewers but we think we peaked over 20,000 today
I am beyond stoked as you guys to see the subbar on your screen when that hits 9,000
And I think we will get it tomorrow at least I hope we can when I get a confirmed Kings gauntlet number two for next year
This is we hit we broke 30k overall, but I think 20k on my channel alone between Twitch and YouTube
That's a record of my channel 31k we've broke 35k we had some other streamers on it in the earlier days as well, so
It's just been a fantastic stream overall
I'm just like look at this 5000 still on the on YouTube is 7000 probably still in twitch. It's absolutely fantastic, but
Of course guys the matchups are set for tomorrow
Dude, it's been such a great such a great tournament
Let's do a bit of Q&A here before I log off because I got some time here
So drop your questions or keep the brackets in the back
Let me see those questions twitch peak today 16,261 on twist tracker
So with YouTube we picked like 7,000 by the way, so we broke 23,000 by the way
Earlier today, so let's do a Q&A if you have a few questions
We'll just talk for a minute here before we end off
T90 casting T90 was supposed to cast today with me. I don't know what happened that he didn't
My admins taking care of it. I think T90 might have gotten busy or something not answered in time
We'll try to get T90 in tomorrow. I'm going to do the casting schedule later
Do you think you'll be able to host a meeting Kings Gauntlet later this year? No, but we have a sub-a-thon later this year at least confirmed
Hrks said maybe he overslucked. Yeah, maybe T90 oversluck. He wouldn't be the first one
You wouldn't be the only one for the oversleeping department
Yeah, let's see it see we wrap up early so you can coach grubby. No, we're not wrapping up early as a 12-hour day today guys
It's not an early wrap up
Let's see
Monday team games equal same teams from group stages hair up maybe but I might adapt them depending on it
But I think same teams from group stage could be kind of fun
Idea leaks for the second term it's haven't even thought of it
We'll see if it's the 9,000 subs and I'll get planning as they's arriving. You're welcome fantastic. That is excellent news
Kings go on it you if we get the 9000 subs and I'll make it happen confirmed for next year God willing of course
Does the winner bracket get an advantage over the loser bracket in the finale? Yes!
I haven't decided what the advantage is though, so that's a bit awkward.
That is a bit awkward, actually. I haven't decided what the advantage is.
Shit.
So, he actually might not get an advantage, because I haven't decided what it is, which is hilarious.
Rules on the fly. I can't really add one in now, eh?
It should be 1-0? No, we're not gonna do 1-0 for sure.
Herald live coaching it's not grubby. You can't be like that
Guys the fight the advantage is grubby wins. That's the advantage grubby did automatically wins the finals cuz it's grubby
That's the hair advantage
There actually might not be an advantage. I might do one sieve ban though
I might do one sieve ban for the guy coming in to
Through the upper bracket final, but we'll see adding in rules last minute is very controversial
So I don't know if I'm going to add that in yeah
I'm saying might because like adding in a rule controversial is like last minute is controversial
So I think I might just make it no advantage and it is what it is
Like the advantages you just haven't lost in your savage like you're just a Chad
Money advantage. Oh, yeah, that's good. If you win without losing you get an extra 500
Maybe the thing is I don't have an extra $500
So because I have to pay the coaches and shit
I got so much I got so much payments to pay out right now
So it's not looking like too good to just add money to it
Thanks for the stream, Rumi.
Thank you, Roxy.
Thanks for filling in and yapping with Yamato as well.
Thank you, Roxy, for the five gifted.
Also, 13 Pre-Chon or Leprechaun or whatever that is.
Thank you for the one gifted sub.
Really appreciate it.
And your Roxy final work today.
She yapped earlier.
I think we'll give her a little break.
She'll be back tomorrow, though.
I did have an advantage from a Worker 3 run.
Yeah, Yamato had one, but it is what it is.
They played one last set.
That could be Grubby's fourth set of the day if he makes the run.
Yeah, that's true.
Roxy's in a bubble bath, so no words from her.
She's just chilling on the phone.
Yeah, I think the advantage they'll have is that they'll play one less set for the day.
Maybe two less sets. This is also fine.
Yeah, that's the advantage. They'll still get something.
We'll see how it goes, but maybe a small call for the upper bracket player.
Winner's advantage, three map picks.
I thought of that shredding on YouTube.
I think that's a decent idea, but I didn't add it, so it's my fault.
I think that is being more rested and that's enough. Gigi's today here. I love the journey. Thank you to your ducking on YouTube
Why can't the advantage be the usual one? Well the usual one for a
Double-initiation is like one zero or like some other small advantage or even like a bracket reset
But I haven't planned that and I don't like one zero and I don't like bracket reset. So I
Think the rest is enough. Yeah, I think done being more rested and less stressed is enough of an advantage
We just leave it like that
Yeah, guys listen, that's enough for the day. It's a 12-hour stream of putting in the work
It's like I look up 12 out of 15 hour and a half first day at 12 hour day two and a 12 hour day three
It's I've been working non-stop, but it's been more than worth it
So thank you all for watching tomorrow 13 GMT. We're back ladies and gents. We'll see you guys tomorrow 13 GMT for the final day of the
King's gauntlet
Thank you all so much for watching it means a lot to me to see so many people on the channel
We broke viewer records
We're breaking subscriber records and we're breaking fun records on his app
I haven't had more fun than I've had in the tournament in a long time. So huge. Thank you to everyone. Where did the next
You'd go I shaved it. I want to be prepared for the final couple days
But oh sevens in the chat you two been to which I appreciate y'all a lot
Oh sevens of the chat tomorrow final day tell your friends. Let's break the viewer record today
We broke 23,000 on twitch and YouTube for the channel 30 30 plus thousand in terms of the total viewing of the tournament
Let's see if you can break that tomorrow
I'm sure we will we got the best the best matchups and the best highlights still to come
Thanks for watching and I'll pass you guys on to another streamer.
Let's find out who's on.
Is Yamato still on?
Pig is on!
I don't know if Yamato's on.
I'll probably throw you guys to Pig though.
He's still in the tournament and he had a good first round today, a good round today.
So it's great Pig.
Once again guys, I've said what I have to say but thanks for watching and I appreciate
y'all.
Seriously, much love from me to you guys.
No jokes, I appreciate y'all a lot and have a good one.
See you guys tomorrow.