WEBVTT 04:00.000 --> 04:02.000 I 11:30.000 --> 11:32.000 I 12:30.000 --> 12:32.000 You 13:00.000 --> 13:27.280 All right, you guys hello and welcome wait 13:30.000 --> 13:31.840 Hello and welcome to the stream. 13:31.840 --> 13:34.400 Okay, make sure I'm looking somewhat presentable. 13:34.400 --> 13:36.840 Actually, it's not too bad today. 13:36.840 --> 13:37.920 What's going on guys? 13:37.920 --> 13:40.760 I give you like two minutes and then we can start. 13:48.040 --> 13:49.120 All right, all right, all right. 13:49.120 --> 13:50.240 I gotta do a couple more things. 13:50.240 --> 13:51.300 You know, they're already hot 13:51.300 --> 13:52.360 but it's not the first game. 13:52.360 --> 13:54.000 I'm kind of late today. 13:54.000 --> 13:55.200 I had a new shirt. 13:55.200 --> 13:56.720 I got a new shirt. 13:56.720 --> 13:59.360 Yo, a little bolt into the 150 bits. 14:00.000 --> 14:14.040 I appreciate that my G. Alright, get that set up, take a look at something else here, YouTube, 14:14.040 --> 14:17.960 Let's get YouTube chat on here, excellent. 14:20.960 --> 14:24.800 All right, that works so well, doesn't it? 14:26.840 --> 14:28.400 I'm gonna be capturing it. 14:31.840 --> 14:35.000 All right, so let me show you guys what we're doing today 14:36.200 --> 14:37.520 and then we're gonna get started. 14:37.520 --> 14:39.440 I don't know who the co-casters for the first set, 14:39.440 --> 14:42.320 but we'll see how that is very soon. 14:42.320 --> 14:49.320 Let me just show you guys first of all, the Wikipedia page, Kings Gauntlets, 14:49.320 --> 14:54.320 all right, Daniela, very nice, all right. 14:54.320 --> 14:58.320 So take a look at the bracket here real quick before we start with the first set of the day guys. 14:58.320 --> 15:00.320 So we have the top brackets. 15:00.320 --> 15:02.320 We're going to do this a bit later on in the day. 15:02.320 --> 15:06.320 Cap Monti Thermal, Grubby Pig, those are like the main events, the headliners of the day. 15:06.320 --> 15:08.320 The first, we have some loser bracket games to get through. 15:08.320 --> 15:10.320 Noth vs. Noko, that's going to be the first set. 15:10.320 --> 15:11.320 That's going to be the best of three, all right. 15:11.320 --> 15:13.720 Alright, and afterwards you have the Wagamama Sing Sing 15:13.720 --> 15:16.920 and then the winner of this match versus H-Rock, Best of Fives. 15:16.920 --> 15:18.760 So today we have Best of Five rounds 15:18.760 --> 15:19.800 and it's gonna be a lot of fun. 15:19.800 --> 15:23.440 Let's go ahead and hop right in with Daniella. 15:23.440 --> 15:25.760 And we're gonna start the first set here real quick. 15:25.760 --> 15:28.560 Let me just open up my casting booth. 15:28.560 --> 15:31.600 But I gotta make sure that we have a shimmer mode on. 15:34.080 --> 15:34.920 There we go. 15:36.240 --> 15:38.480 And let me just share my screen over here. 15:38.480 --> 15:48.480 There you go. And show the entire screen. Alright, fantastic. So, with all that said, we're going to go ahead and hop right into the first game and give them the signal for them to start. 15:48.480 --> 15:50.480 Alright. 15:50.480 --> 15:56.480 Hello. Good morning, Hera. 15:56.480 --> 16:01.480 Yo, good morning, Daniela. Thanks for joining us for the first day of the day today. 16:01.480 --> 16:05.320 Yeah, I'm excited. I think this is going to be a fantastic matchup. 16:05.320 --> 16:12.320 I was looking forward to it yesterday. It couldn't happen, but I'm still happy to be able to go fast with you. 16:12.320 --> 16:15.520 Just starting the day fresh with a very, very good matchup. 16:15.520 --> 16:18.320 Yeah, absolutely. It's just the last best of three set. 16:18.320 --> 16:20.520 So just to remind the chat, this should have happened yesterday. 16:20.520 --> 16:22.520 We had some issues in the scheduling. 16:22.520 --> 16:26.520 It got delayed to today, so it's going to be a best of three between Knoff and Loco. 16:26.520 --> 16:29.820 Arguably one of the more competitive sets, to be fair. 16:29.820 --> 16:35.380 Knoff on paper a little higher elo than Loco, the Loco showed really good strategies against 16:35.380 --> 16:41.540 Otofu especially on Arabia. He's got that good infantry ram push, he hits the timing 16:41.540 --> 16:46.180 well, he gets all the upgrades, he's really good with it. So I feel like this could really 16:46.180 --> 16:49.860 go either way. The players are just about ready to get started here. And then we get 16:49.860 --> 16:53.180 the coach set up. And Danila, good morning. 16:53.180 --> 16:55.180 Good morning 16:55.220 --> 16:57.520 Yeah, I absolutely agree with you 16:58.180 --> 17:02.380 Just I just hopped into the game as well. I I agree with you and 17:03.100 --> 17:05.100 It's going to be a close matchup 17:05.300 --> 17:06.260 and 17:06.260 --> 17:07.780 I'm very I gotta admit 17:07.780 --> 17:11.500 I'm very sad for whoever wins this because this is an elimination match 17:11.500 --> 17:18.100 They're going to be out of the tournament and I like a lot both of these players. I think they have a great potential 17:18.980 --> 17:20.820 I 17:20.820 --> 17:25.580 Knopf was actually one of the people that I watched a couple of streams before I 17:26.620 --> 17:31.120 I left for my vacation. So it was very nice to see him 17:32.620 --> 17:33.900 Grow 17:33.900 --> 17:39.400 It was nice to see him just get better at better was watching back 17:40.020 --> 17:47.360 Watching a very big each build order very closely taking notes all the time. It was just yeah 17:47.780 --> 17:49.620 Yeah, absolutely. So 17:49.620 --> 17:54.200 First of all guys welcome in Knopf's gonna be in red. I'm just make sure the cams are good here 17:54.740 --> 17:59.220 Let me go ahead and just switch them. Just give me one second here 18:00.340 --> 18:02.340 Wait, how do I do this? 18:03.420 --> 18:05.100 Okay, wait 18:05.100 --> 18:07.100 Wait, so I have some cam issues here 18:09.940 --> 18:11.940 We're gonna have to 18:13.380 --> 18:15.380 Switch the boxes 18:15.500 --> 18:19.140 No, we're gonna put Knopf's gonna be in blue and low cone red 18:19.620 --> 18:24.620 No. Yeah. Yeah, it was good. 18:24.620 --> 18:32.620 No, sorry. I'm really confused right now. Give me one second. Go ahead and nail the cast. 18:32.620 --> 18:37.620 I think you just need to switch the cameras. And then you're good. 18:37.620 --> 18:42.620 Okay. So like you said, enough is playing as Dravidians here in the south. 18:42.620 --> 18:46.620 The north of the map we have local playing as the poles. 18:46.620 --> 18:51.500 This is probably the third game that I'm watching from Loco, that I see him playing, 18:51.500 --> 18:58.380 polls on Fortress, there were a couple of things going south, the previous two games 18:58.380 --> 19:05.180 that we're going to talk a bit about them. And I'm curious to see what he has learned 19:05.180 --> 19:13.340 from his past mistakes. Noth played Dravidians once before. I've seen him, I think Dravidians 19:13.340 --> 19:21.940 were one of the first sieves he has been looking into for Fortress. I saw him executing a very 19:21.940 --> 19:29.980 nice boom yesterday with them. The timing and the unit choices were a tiny bit late yesterday. 19:29.980 --> 19:33.900 I'm just eager to see if he has improved those. 19:33.900 --> 19:42.900 We're good. Thank you, Denny. A very unprofessional start to the day here, but that's the regular, 19:42.900 --> 19:47.340 that's the normal, that's the expected from the King's Gauntlet, of course. It's husband 19:47.340 --> 19:51.100 and wife production at home, guys. Not really some kind of Red Bull production. It's off 19:51.100 --> 19:55.380 by one pixel. Well, somebody give that guy a 24-hour ban, because I cannot fix it anymore. 19:55.380 --> 20:00.860 Well, guys, welcome in, finally, to a very nice local connoisseur from the Blue, 20:00.860 --> 20:04.060 local and red final colors not gonna switch it. 20:04.060 --> 20:05.900 And yeah, Trividians versus Poles. 20:05.900 --> 20:08.740 So listen, we've seen Poles plenty of times in Loco. 20:08.740 --> 20:10.740 In fact, he goes to like the five DC boom. 20:10.740 --> 20:13.060 But here's the thing, he's lost both games 20:13.060 --> 20:15.180 with Poles on this map. 20:15.180 --> 20:17.060 So even though he's lost both games, 20:17.060 --> 20:19.220 he's actually still going to the Poles again. 20:19.220 --> 20:21.860 That being said, one game he forgot his upgrade, 20:21.860 --> 20:23.540 very key upgrade. 20:23.540 --> 20:25.620 And another game he got Kingsnight by Otofu, 20:25.620 --> 20:27.700 which is a fantastic play from Tofu. 20:27.700 --> 20:29.420 And so Loco, despite those losses, 20:29.420 --> 20:34.380 still kind of sticks to that main sieve. Knoff also lost her Dravidians yesterday but 20:34.380 --> 20:38.140 still sticking with this. So right here we're seeing two guys that are sticking with sieves 20:38.140 --> 20:43.140 that have failed them before. What do you make of that Daniella? Do you think that's 20:43.140 --> 20:46.780 done not knowing anything else or do they feel like, no, the sieve is good, I just 20:46.780 --> 20:48.780 kind of messed up? 20:48.780 --> 20:54.340 I think it's also very easy to stick to what you know and improve what you've 20:54.340 --> 21:01.200 done wrong. So like you said, local first first game he played, he went for the 21:01.200 --> 21:05.720 night spam, but he forgot about the unique technology from the castle that 21:05.720 --> 21:09.880 makes his nights cheaper, which is a very important technology to get if you're 21:09.880 --> 21:14.000 going to go for that strategy that what makes pulse very strong with a very 21:14.000 --> 21:19.640 big power spike in early early import late castle age depends when you're 21:19.640 --> 21:28.640 going for it. He learned from that. Next game, he got it. He went for the stream chat, but 21:28.640 --> 21:37.840 he forgot about his king. He was actually streaming this morning, and I heard him talk about, 21:37.840 --> 21:43.920 okay, how can I remember about my king chat? And he was actually looking into the most 21:43.920 --> 21:47.520 that some of the others are using to make his king bigger. 21:47.520 --> 21:52.520 That's actually hilarious. Making your king bigger, I think it's a good way to not lose him. 21:52.520 --> 21:58.520 But we'll see. I think it just came down to actually him forgetting that the king existed in that tower. 21:58.520 --> 22:02.520 So we'll see what we can do. Remember all the attacks. Remember this king would be crucial on this map. 22:02.520 --> 22:07.520 Of course, Red is a fortress. You have to keep the king alive. If the king goes down, you lose the game. 22:07.520 --> 22:11.520 And we've seen a ton of king snipes in this tournament so far, which actually makes me really happy 22:11.520 --> 22:14.520 because I think that's like the best part of this map and really what it has to offer. 22:14.520 --> 22:18.800 it has to offer both players up to cast it at a very similar time, but Knoff has actually 22:18.800 --> 22:26.120 22 seconds of idle TC, which is strange because he's coming in as the favorite for this matchup. 22:26.120 --> 22:30.800 And with a higher elo, you have like a weaker Dark Age usually is not supposed to be the 22:30.800 --> 22:33.440 case, but I mean, just goes to show that anything could happen. 22:33.440 --> 22:35.480 It's not the end of the world, but it is worth pointing out. 22:35.480 --> 22:39.240 He's a little bit behind economically compared to Loco. 22:39.240 --> 22:49.240 Absolutely. Except for those 22 seconds at LTC time, I think generally, most of the streamers, 22:49.240 --> 22:54.240 all of the streamers in this tournament, I feel like have really good build orders. 22:54.240 --> 22:59.240 I mean, I know they practice a lot, but I'm honestly impressed. 22:59.240 --> 23:03.240 Yeah, I really agree with that, actually, Daniela, and like, especially Loco's build here, 23:03.240 --> 23:06.240 Loco's build is something that I was talking with, I think, Louis, and we're like, 23:06.240 --> 23:09.360 Like, yo, we're gonna copy the strategy for pro games. 23:09.360 --> 23:10.200 It's very cool. 23:10.200 --> 23:12.560 You just take a little bit of stone with poles, 23:12.560 --> 23:14.440 and it lets you go for a four-tenth center boom 23:14.440 --> 23:16.400 whilst also getting a little bit of gold 23:16.400 --> 23:17.960 from that pole mining bonus, 23:17.960 --> 23:19.680 which helps you use it at the market 23:19.680 --> 23:21.080 to buy some wood or food. 23:21.080 --> 23:22.280 Really, really cool strategy. 23:22.280 --> 23:23.880 You're just gonna go for the pure boom here. 23:23.880 --> 23:24.880 But as you said, Daniela, 23:24.880 --> 23:27.280 BuildLitters is a very, very strong suit 23:27.280 --> 23:29.320 of all of the players in this tournament. 23:29.320 --> 23:30.820 I would say most, at least. 23:30.820 --> 23:39.500 I was looking yesterday at Death Note's boom, Death Note has a better boom than I did. 23:39.500 --> 23:40.660 I don't fool that. 23:40.660 --> 23:41.660 No, legitimately. 23:41.660 --> 23:42.660 That was really good. 23:42.660 --> 23:47.340 Now, if only he made army after the boom, but the boom was good. 23:47.340 --> 23:52.300 Small things to work on, but they're absolutely off to a great start. 23:52.300 --> 23:55.020 Knoth opening three pieces here. 23:55.020 --> 23:57.780 We can talk a tiny bit about the Siv bonuses. 23:57.780 --> 24:04.780 It's quite easy for Knoth to do this opening because Dravidians get 200 extra wood when 24:04.780 --> 24:06.460 they're advancing to the next stage. 24:06.460 --> 24:11.580 So that will help him just get those TCs up in time. 24:11.580 --> 24:15.780 But while I'm saying that, I noticed that he's actually a couple of seconds behind. 24:15.780 --> 24:16.780 Yeah. 24:16.780 --> 24:19.780 Loco already has 3 TCs up and running. 24:19.780 --> 24:24.060 And by the way, that's just purely due to Loco's early game economy. 24:24.060 --> 24:28.520 up res collected over Knoth, which really shouldn't be the case because Dravidian's early game 24:28.520 --> 24:32.420 with that actually 200 res should actually be the smoother early game instead of sub. 24:32.420 --> 24:35.980 Actually, just credit the local for that super sharp build order. 24:35.980 --> 24:40.420 I will say though, I just add a little bit of flavor commentary to the situation here. 24:40.420 --> 24:44.780 The 200 wood Dravidian bonus usually is a one and done deal. 24:44.780 --> 24:47.720 You get the 200 wood and you don't get anything from it afterwards. 24:47.720 --> 24:52.300 But the way to use that to make it a long lasting eco bonus is to use that 200 24:52.300 --> 24:56.660 add in that extra fourth town center and that lets you get a villager lead which 24:56.660 --> 25:00.260 gives you that long-lasting economy bonus to really boost your res collected. 25:00.260 --> 25:04.300 Comparing that to the polls of course they naturally get a long-lasting res 25:04.300 --> 25:08.100 collected bonus because every time they make a farmer on the full work they 25:08.100 --> 25:11.980 get extra food. They get 10% of the farms total yield immediately into the 25:11.980 --> 25:17.860 stockpile. So as you can see locals are going to make these six farms. He's going to get a bunch of food directly into the stockpile as he makes them. 25:17.860 --> 25:25.080 Take a look at that food count to just skyrocket up not too much of course, but he does get like a good 25 for farm here 25:26.380 --> 25:35.140 Absolutely, and this is very good very important to keep your tc's running especially early on because usually you get to castle age with 25:35.680 --> 25:37.680 four or five hundred food in your 25:38.040 --> 25:41.760 Stockpile you put on three tc's. It's very easy 25:41.760 --> 25:49.380 It's a game through those couple of hundred food very fast you make like maximum three bills per TC and then that food runs out 25:49.880 --> 25:50.880 Oh 25:50.880 --> 25:52.880 local Lucent Scout 25:53.840 --> 25:57.260 Not a huge deal, but worth mentioning of course first kill the game 25:58.000 --> 26:00.000 But yeah, it's your point Daniella 26:00.360 --> 26:04.280 keeping TC's running very very important and the food doesn't go quick 26:04.280 --> 26:08.160 I agree with that like you have a little stockpile it make a few bills all of a sudden it's gone 26:08.160 --> 26:09.320 You need to separate farms 26:09.320 --> 26:14.520 It's usually a race to 18 farms get the CCs running then you go for the fourth that which we seek not doing which is very good 26:14.520 --> 26:16.520 It's not 26:16.520 --> 26:20.160 I like the way he's kind of expanding his what house walling 26:20.800 --> 26:24.640 To the left. I missed the tension. I'm not sure if he's got it 26:24.640 --> 26:29.960 He doesn't know that there's a hole between those two lines. Oh my god. I could come into play later 26:30.480 --> 26:35.320 It's like a little like a she loves layer pass. That's just a secret pass. Nobody really knows about it 26:35.480 --> 26:37.480 Let's see if he comes to fix it 26:37.480 --> 26:41.920 does technically have an opening through the right side as well on the back but 26:41.920 --> 26:45.680 those openings shouldn't matter too much but you know we'll see keep an eye on 26:45.680 --> 26:48.800 them of course heavy plow now coming in for Loco very important upgrade for the 26:48.800 --> 26:53.400 bowls and we're not seeing the fourth and fifth TC from Loco the patented 26:53.400 --> 26:56.960 five TC boom not yet on the field but I think he's gonna go for it because I 26:56.960 --> 27:01.320 don't see him deviating from that plan anytime soon I think it's gonna go 27:01.320 --> 27:05.860 for it I think yesterday he went for it later then you would usually see the 27:05.860 --> 27:09.860 40 seat usually when he makes the 40 seat he makes the fifth one right next to it 27:09.860 --> 27:11.820 yes 27:11.820 --> 27:13.660 from what I've seen 27:13.660 --> 27:18.660 Yeah, it's really strange. I don't know why he does that but he's done it religiously so far here. We go 27:19.060 --> 27:20.980 for TC and 27:20.980 --> 27:26.220 No space for one next to it, but I serve actually that is there is technically let's see who goes for it 27:26.220 --> 27:28.820 I would die if you just smash the TC there 27:29.740 --> 27:31.740 needs a couple 27:31.980 --> 27:33.980 more wood 27:35.860 --> 27:38.660 There it is, 5 TC's, Daniela called it. 27:38.660 --> 27:43.060 Uh, Loco, but that just shows how committed he is to this build, like... 27:43.060 --> 27:48.260 It's very rare to drop 2 TC's, 1 shot, Loco has done it 3 times straight. 27:48.260 --> 27:51.860 This guy is like, if he's going to do something, he's going to do it consistently. 27:51.860 --> 27:54.860 Which is actually a very good habit with an RTS, 27:54.860 --> 27:59.060 which is not really, you know, to shake up your initial build order, or your initial game plan. 27:59.060 --> 28:04.260 And of course, he's doing this because he wants to save space for the full-work farms around his main base. 28:04.260 --> 28:07.700 So he's kind of putting the TC to the side where he cannot farm anyways. Pretty cool. 28:09.540 --> 28:18.340 And Gnoth with the 50c on the gold kind of expending outside of his walls. I like that. I don't mind that. 28:18.340 --> 28:25.860 He probably should start sending a Vyrgyrshornstone in my opinion. One thing that I noticed is that 28:25.860 --> 28:31.060 maybe players sometimes forget about the stone. Usually you would already want to have a couple 28:31.060 --> 28:35.020 a couple of integers on stone while you're going up to the impure nage because you suddenly 28:35.020 --> 28:42.500 are in a position when you've made a bunch of army, you kind of want to push, but now 28:42.500 --> 28:47.980 you don't have siege, you only have one castle for trap production, you would want your army 28:47.980 --> 28:51.380 protected under a castle forward and you don't have enough stone. 28:51.380 --> 28:52.380 Yeah, absolutely. 28:52.380 --> 28:57.580 And so when it comes to stone, it's a bit of a double-edged sword, right? 28:57.580 --> 29:01.460 Because like when you do the 3 TC boom, like the very sharp boom, and then you want to rush 29:01.460 --> 29:05.500 in pure ledge, sometimes, on an app like Arabia, you want to not take stone. 29:05.500 --> 29:09.300 So a lot of players are in this mindset that, hey, stone is not always needed. 29:09.300 --> 29:12.800 But then on a map like Redistat Fortress, you're on a 5 TC boom. 29:12.800 --> 29:16.060 As Daniel said, you just got to get on that stone because, you know, a couple reasons. 29:16.060 --> 29:19.540 The nail mentioned, you just need that extra castle, grab the map control, fight the 29:19.540 --> 29:23.400 trevwars, but also you have so much res anyway, you have so much food, so much 29:23.400 --> 29:26.060 wood, you don't really need to like, skip out on the stone. 29:26.060 --> 29:31.460 You know that stone is just so important to be able to actually like contest different areas in the map and be able to 29:31.460 --> 29:35.220 Trade with your opponent when it comes to that like castle we cast a situation 29:35.220 --> 29:41.680 So yeah Knoff so far not on stone at all that could hurt him if he doesn't get on it at some point next few minutes 29:41.680 --> 29:43.680 I would say 29:44.000 --> 29:46.000 Yeah, also 29:46.280 --> 29:50.680 One thing that I said yesterday. I'm going to repeat myself a bit 29:50.680 --> 29:55.560 I feel like you should not be afraid of using the market and 29:56.060 --> 30:00.740 And as I'm saying that, Locke is actually selling wood when he's floating over a thousand 30:00.740 --> 30:04.660 extra food in the bank to go up to the next stage. 30:04.660 --> 30:07.900 Yeah, maybe he's thinking, I want to keep that food because I'm about to spend it on 30:07.900 --> 30:12.540 like half, but dude, 500 food can be sold for like what, 400 gold, that's a pretty 30:12.540 --> 30:13.540 good deal. 30:13.540 --> 30:15.780 But it seems to really want to stop by that food count. 30:15.780 --> 30:19.860 But of course, as you can see, polls pulling ahead massively and risk collected there, 30:19.860 --> 30:22.820 like 1500 extra research collected for the polls. 30:22.820 --> 30:23.820 It's so cool to see actually. 30:23.820 --> 30:25.860 And he's dropping his tables really early. 30:25.860 --> 30:29.460 This is what we missed from Death Note. Ladies and gentlemen, this is how it's done. I hope 30:29.460 --> 30:33.420 Death Note's in the chat watching. You make your boom, clip them to your ledge, right 30:33.420 --> 30:37.980 away you gotta get your production set because you don't wanna miss a beat on this kind of 30:37.980 --> 30:43.340 converging or converting the economy into a military lead. Fantastic. Moko, he's gonna 30:43.340 --> 30:45.340 go for the night spam. 30:45.340 --> 30:51.620 Yeah, but I think he took a page off of that notes book as well because I see the 30:51.620 --> 30:56.580 siege workshops prepared now poles do have access to the siege drum what I 30:56.580 --> 31:02.100 want for local to not forget is the Schlachter privileges the unique 31:02.100 --> 31:06.980 technology that makes his night cheap he forgot it once talked about it earlier 31:06.980 --> 31:11.460 it hasn't in research you cannot forget this one it's if you forget say you 31:11.460 --> 31:17.300 could go for wing his are though sorry go ahead yeah and the thing is if he 31:17.300 --> 31:22.520 He queues up 20 knights right now, he has the resources for them, maybe not a gold, but 31:22.520 --> 31:29.500 if he queues up a bunch of knights and then researches it, those knights in the queue won't 31:29.500 --> 31:30.500 be discounted. 31:30.500 --> 31:34.940 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's very true, so you gotta get that first, he's getting all the 31:34.940 --> 31:40.940 tech, no he's getting all the tech, he's queuing knights, oh my god, Locust forgot the tech 31:40.940 --> 31:45.340 too, just for the chat guys, this is crazy, this is crazy, he has a tech with the 31:45.340 --> 31:50.980 poles, the unique tech and castage, the silver crown, it makes your knights cost 60% less 31:50.980 --> 31:51.980 gold. 31:51.980 --> 31:55.460 60% less gold, Loco has forgotten it again. 31:55.460 --> 31:58.140 It's crazy, this is the reason you pick poles. 31:58.140 --> 32:02.180 I can't believe he's forgotten it again, he's got 10 stables right to stand knights, normally 32:02.180 --> 32:05.700 if you're able to afford a ton of them, but now, since he made a few and he can't 32:05.700 --> 32:09.380 afford them, because if you've got that tech, moving on to Knoth, by the way, Knoth 32:09.380 --> 32:12.780 is going to go for a crazy good composition with the Dravidians, he's going to go 32:12.780 --> 32:18.420 with Elephant Archers and he's going to go for Halberd here, really good combo here. 32:18.420 --> 32:22.440 And oh, Kat Brandt for Knopf, I started from the local, it's crazy. 32:22.440 --> 32:30.260 I think Knopf had this build in mind last time as well, but he played against Kipchaks, 32:30.260 --> 32:35.260 so he kind of changed his plan from going from Elephant Archers to Skirm to counter 32:35.260 --> 32:41.780 the kit checks which was the correct decision perhaps in that situation. 32:41.780 --> 32:46.860 But I don't think we've ever seen in this tournament Elephant Archers. 32:46.860 --> 32:50.740 No, it's the first time and finally it's the first time we're also seeing the slouch of 32:50.740 --> 32:55.860 privileges, the tech, the silver crown, thank god, local remembered that's in the discount 32:55.860 --> 33:00.420 tonight's 60% gold, not the first batch, these guys he paid full price on but the next 33:00.420 --> 33:03.220 batch coming out will get the discount which is huge. 33:03.220 --> 33:21.220 First time for Elfin archers guys, take a look at this very beefy unit, very chunky, elite Elfin archer coming out, they look sick, they're a fantastic unit, really strong DPS backline, really tanky, this combo is insane for Knopf and honestly, if you're just doing Tav C-Dram, you cannot fight this head on, Locos have to raid. 33:22.220 --> 33:28.220 Do you think Loco is going to be surprised? How do you think he's going to react to this? 33:28.220 --> 33:32.080 Yes, a good question. Loco is most likely never seen an Elfmarcher in his life. 33:32.480 --> 33:36.700 Or if he has, he probably never played against it maybe like once. 33:36.700 --> 33:42.640 So he will be probably a little shocked, a little surprised and not know how to deal with it is my initial guess here. 33:45.760 --> 33:48.080 He is still missing a lot of upgrades. 33:48.920 --> 33:53.620 He's birthing plus two armor instead of the attack when you have range units. 33:53.620 --> 33:57.300 You definitely want the attack first. 33:57.300 --> 34:04.960 Honor is important to pick it up, but he even is missing the Castle Age attack upgrade, not to mention the Imperial Age one. 34:04.960 --> 34:11.260 Yeah, a lot of attack upgrades are missing there. At least he's got Ballistics and Chemistry in the way, so he is working on his upgrades slowly. 34:11.260 --> 34:13.700 Howbydeer is coming in as well. Very crucial tech. 34:13.700 --> 34:15.780 And take a look at Loco, he's ignoring the army. 34:15.780 --> 34:22.660 And that's a pretty good idea from Loco. He just wants to play his game, go for the push, and remember, you should have to kill the king. 34:22.660 --> 34:27.660 Kings in the castle, you got a lot of cabinets, Lokos can make that happen, but Knoff is also 34:27.660 --> 34:31.660 kind of just going for the push, but Knoff has got no siege, so I feel like Lokos's push 34:31.660 --> 34:33.660 is way stronger here. 34:33.660 --> 34:39.660 Yeah, exactly. I don't know, maybe we can get your perspective as a pro player about 34:39.660 --> 34:44.660 this matchup, but I feel like, as Poles, you just have to use your mobility against 34:44.660 --> 34:46.660 this composition, because your minions are slow. 34:46.660 --> 34:50.660 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think that's 100% the right call, and take a look at 34:50.660 --> 34:53.680 Locos is diving in with the Cavaliers, it's huge, Seedram on the gates. 34:53.680 --> 34:57.580 Meanwhile, Knoff is here with all of his army, no Siege, we're just here waving across 34:57.580 --> 34:58.580 the gates. 34:58.580 --> 34:59.580 Hello! 34:59.580 --> 35:00.580 It's all we can do! 35:00.580 --> 35:01.580 We can't do anything else. 35:01.580 --> 35:08.180 Oh, and the King is forward, he's in the castle, the Seedrams are at the gates 35:08.180 --> 35:11.460 and the Seedrams could jump straight, oh no actually I think they're just going 35:11.460 --> 35:14.140 to go around and jump on the castle. 35:14.140 --> 35:17.140 And Knoff has to make the call to go back, he's using the Elven Archers to 35:17.140 --> 35:18.660 just hit a wall. 35:18.660 --> 35:22.540 the best use of it. The Halves going back at the very least though. Siege, I'm walking 35:22.540 --> 35:27.940 a little drunk but you gotta kind of raise her in onto this castle. Halvedere's finally 35:27.940 --> 35:31.860 going back though. It's gonna be pretty good against the Cavs. King is still having a 35:31.860 --> 35:38.380 cast. I don't like the elephants going back. Elephants are too slow and can't do too 35:38.380 --> 35:43.980 much here. The Halves are gonna clean this up. We're going back boys. Give us 35:43.980 --> 35:47.700 two years, we'll be there soon. The Halves are enough. I kind of agree. We 35:47.700 --> 35:50.720 You just need to teach a front, teach a front, the armored upwards coming in, keep the elephant 35:50.720 --> 35:51.720 archers forward. 35:51.720 --> 35:53.120 I agree with you Danela, that's fantastic. 35:53.120 --> 35:56.360 Going back is not what I call. 35:56.360 --> 35:59.560 On top of that, he's missing husbandry on the elephant. 35:59.560 --> 36:00.560 Oh no. 36:00.560 --> 36:01.560 We're slow. 36:01.560 --> 36:02.560 Oh my god. 36:02.560 --> 36:04.560 Oh my god, these guys are really slow. 36:04.560 --> 36:06.560 Uh, Habs, taking out the Sea Drem. 36:06.560 --> 36:09.560 Sea Drem are going for that castle, that's a sensitive castle, that's where the King 36:09.560 --> 36:10.560 is. 36:10.560 --> 36:14.200 Okay, the raids from Loka have been insane, but Knoff is still at a decent 36:14.200 --> 36:18.220 build counts. And he sells a lot of resources in the bank. So as long as he gets his economy 36:18.220 --> 36:23.720 back on track here, he gets some wood in the bank. He's actually fine. Conoff is fine here. 36:23.720 --> 36:29.480 Oh, but look at that castle drop. 36:29.480 --> 36:33.200 I like it. Four-Billiger castle drop forward. We finally have the siege. But where are 36:33.200 --> 36:37.200 the Elf archers doing it all the way back? We need them in the front again. We need 36:37.200 --> 36:38.880 them in the front. Start marching. 36:38.880 --> 36:45.880 This is such a strong force. I mean, a local probably by now knows that he's on a timer. 36:45.880 --> 36:48.880 Look at all that we talked about. Oh my god. 36:48.880 --> 36:51.880 He's going in. The secret passage. The secret passage. Look what's going in. 36:51.880 --> 36:54.880 The raids are live. That's crazy. That's not insane. 36:54.880 --> 36:59.880 You absolutely called it this coming. Oh, never mind. 36:59.880 --> 37:02.880 Oh, the haps are coming in too though. That's crazy. 37:02.880 --> 37:05.880 The cavalry will get trapped at least. Maybe it's a little bit of a trap. 37:05.880 --> 37:10.800 He's happy with this but couple villages go down here castle in the front for Knoth. This is fantastic 37:10.800 --> 37:14.000 I feel like blue now is ready to push in a big way as well 37:16.560 --> 37:22.100 This is just such a huge force of nature from not where the elephants they're going 37:23.320 --> 37:25.520 Back to local skates 37:27.800 --> 37:33.400 Still no bracer still no attack still no husbandry, but maybe he's gonna remember about all those 37:33.400 --> 37:36.840 Yeah, Knoff is actually getting the wrong armor for his units. 37:36.840 --> 37:40.040 You don't need Tab armor for other archers, you need Archer armor. 37:40.040 --> 37:44.600 He's just getting both just in case, but he really doesn't need that one. 37:44.600 --> 37:48.000 But now Knoff has a death ball, and Knoff is the one attacking. 37:48.000 --> 37:50.000 So I think Knoff is in a great position here. 37:50.000 --> 37:52.040 Let's see how the blue player can manage this. 37:52.040 --> 37:53.960 Razer coming in is remembering all the tech. 37:53.960 --> 37:55.840 He's going for a Ruby Swordsman in the frontline. 37:55.840 --> 37:56.840 This is fantastic. 37:56.840 --> 37:57.840 We need Trebuchet's man. 37:57.840 --> 37:58.840 We don't need more swordsmen. 37:58.840 --> 37:59.840 Yeah, absolutely. 37:59.840 --> 38:05.840 Yeah, absolutely. He's almost 200 pop. It just needs to continue producing villages, 38:05.840 --> 38:09.560 which he is, which is very important after you have been raided. It's important to keep 38:09.560 --> 38:14.840 your villager numbers up because your economy is what takes you the long way in this game. 38:14.840 --> 38:19.360 Yeah, no, absolutely. Get your book count back up. Fix your car. We've got a lot of 38:19.360 --> 38:23.560 resources in the banks. We've got a little bit of room for error. But Knoff is getting 38:23.560 --> 38:27.720 a lot of villagers now. Take a look at this. Why is the farmland here for Loco? 38:27.720 --> 38:31.920 got tons of space at the back all the way here but making the making the farms 38:31.920 --> 38:35.000 on the front I think was maybe not the best decision here he's getting punished 38:35.000 --> 38:42.200 for it. It doesn't think farms in the front and stables in the back. Yeah it's so funny actually. 38:42.200 --> 38:47.160 The exact door. Stables in the back, farms in the front. We get to have it the other way around. 38:47.160 --> 38:50.600 Trebuchet is finally coming out though for some siege for Knoth. That's what he desperately needs. 38:50.600 --> 38:53.640 He's gonna go in the Elf Archers with the King. King is safe in the back castle. 38:53.640 --> 38:56.760 More waits for Loco at the same time. The Loco is playing the macro game 38:56.760 --> 39:03.180 beautiful here. I swear look at the raids I mean Knoth right now has five 39:03.180 --> 39:09.120 on food yes he has 1600 food in the bank but when your main unit is elephant 39:09.120 --> 39:13.700 archers those are expensive in food yeah yeah because a lot of food but we're 39:13.700 --> 39:18.180 down to 76 villagers the raids have really been heavy here but to be honest 39:18.180 --> 39:21.740 Knoth raids have also been heavy like elephant archers just going in they're 39:21.740 --> 39:24.820 picking up 100 tons of villagers and it's very hard to fight those guys 39:24.820 --> 39:29.460 the Cavalier beat them if there's no halbs to be fair. So Cavalier, uh, assume there's no 39:29.460 --> 39:30.980 halberd here. They can just come in and chop them up. 39:34.740 --> 39:41.060 This, uh, this is insane. We have 77 eco, get into 73. They're just both killing each other's 39:41.060 --> 39:45.300 base. They're not taking a direct engagement. They're just raiding each other to death, 39:45.300 --> 39:51.460 but Noff is missing the siege, and I would like to see more elephants, uh, rams. 39:51.460 --> 39:55.460 That ram is trying to ram the elephants ass, it's crazy, I've never seen that before. 39:55.460 --> 39:59.460 Rams do 4 damage to a unit, but only like 2 after armor. 39:59.460 --> 40:03.460 Alright, the rams, why is he switching to the castle here? That's fantastic. 40:03.460 --> 40:05.460 Dude, this has been a bloodbath so far. 40:05.460 --> 40:10.460 Literally, they're just non-stop fighting each other, but Loko, I feel like he's cleaning up all the elven archers. 40:10.460 --> 40:14.460 Knoff has been raided to death, he's got no food in the bank, he can't make more helps. 40:14.460 --> 40:17.460 Let alone more elven archers, then rams from Loko are coming in. 40:17.460 --> 40:24.180 is clearing up the push from Knoff is crazy. This game is so good and it's it's 40:24.180 --> 40:28.860 not over yet. I mean the pop is very much different. Yes both of their bases 40:28.860 --> 40:34.980 suffered heavy losses but still 63 minutes from Knoff, 56 from local. Yeah. 40:34.980 --> 40:40.220 Yeah this this the halves are back on the field at least. This is such a crazy 40:40.220 --> 40:43.700 game. What a game one for the day. Day three of the Kings godly guys. The 40:43.700 --> 40:46.140 It's been absolutely performing so far. 40:46.140 --> 40:48.820 You don't want to fit the Habs head-on. 40:48.820 --> 40:50.320 A lot more Habs coming in. 40:50.320 --> 40:52.060 This is fantastic for our blue player here. 40:52.060 --> 40:55.060 Can I look in a re-control of the middle area? 40:55.060 --> 41:05.340 How do you feel about a couple of old books being mixed in in the composition here? 41:05.340 --> 41:08.140 If local would have the food eco for it? 41:08.140 --> 41:12.940 Because he has been suffered heavy losses in terms of farmers as well? 41:12.940 --> 41:15.940 He hasn't been producing bagged villagers for a while? 41:42.940 --> 41:49.140 situation right now. Yeah, for the time being that could be good enough. I'm 41:49.140 --> 41:54.980 usually just generally worry about going scrims against Ravidians because 41:54.980 --> 42:00.740 their scrims attack 25% faster. Yeah. Poles don't have the best scrims but right 42:00.740 --> 42:07.820 now for the situation Locos best, best chance would be scrim issues. Yeah, I 42:07.820 --> 42:12.100 also don't really like that castle. Yeah, that castle should be on the hill, 42:12.100 --> 42:16.340 farms off the hill, but here we have the farms on the hill, and then we have the castle off 42:16.340 --> 42:17.340 the hill. 42:17.340 --> 42:21.980 But I will say, one of the best qualities of Knopf this game is that he kept up to production 42:21.980 --> 42:22.980 of his units. 42:22.980 --> 42:27.100 He got raided to death, he lost army after army, but Knopf just kept producing, and 42:27.100 --> 42:29.620 now Loco, he just didn't really remake his farms. 42:29.620 --> 42:32.100 He's on 31 farms which is quite low for the Poles. 42:32.100 --> 42:36.740 He's only at 5 military right now, so despite having a good amount of villagers, no military 42:36.740 --> 42:39.660 on the field means that Knopf can just walk in and just, you know, kind of clean 42:39.660 --> 42:40.660 house. 42:40.660 --> 42:47.060 What do you feel about Knopf's or how do you feel about Knopf's latest market purchase? 42:47.060 --> 42:49.060 What did he do? 42:49.060 --> 42:54.260 He bought 1800 food for 20 for 3k gold almost. 42:54.260 --> 42:55.260 Oh my god. 42:55.260 --> 42:56.260 No, that's terrible. 42:56.260 --> 42:58.860 That's like selling your Lamborghini for a cheeseburger. 42:58.860 --> 42:59.860 That's terrible. 42:59.860 --> 43:02.860 I mean, I would do that, but like besides me, you know. 43:02.860 --> 43:04.860 I have to just feel like that, you know. 43:04.860 --> 43:05.860 Stop it. 43:05.860 --> 43:06.860 You just really want that cheeseburger. 43:06.860 --> 43:07.860 Bro, that's crazy. 43:07.860 --> 43:09.860 That's like, normally it's the opposite. 43:09.860 --> 43:15.720 You're saying all your food trying to get some extra gold guys gold is a limited resource food is it's plentiful usually 43:15.720 --> 43:18.340 But I think that just speaks to the rates from local honestly 43:18.340 --> 43:21.700 I think that speaks to the rates from local he killed all of the food economy 43:21.700 --> 43:25.180 Knauf obviously Knauf is back to 50 farms and that food is not an issue 43:25.380 --> 43:30.400 Actually ironically gold is the issue now, but you know the rates were heavy the rates were heavy 43:31.700 --> 43:37.420 Yeah, maybe we come forward with another castle. He has so much stone in the bank 43:37.420 --> 43:42.780 Nice either defensive castles or map control, especially when you're pushing like this 43:42.780 --> 43:44.780 It feels like a 43:44.780 --> 43:49.020 Castle on those golds in front of local space would be absolutely fantastic 43:49.020 --> 43:49.420 Yeah 43:49.420 --> 43:55.420 If you don't want to walk forward make a floor castle couple castles home castle here grab some space maybe castle here 43:55.420 --> 44:01.980 Maybe cast on the right side. You got to spend your stone because stock buying stone is like unused potential unused defense or offense 44:02.780 --> 44:05.700 100% agree with you Daniela and I love this push from profit 44:05.700 --> 44:06.700 He's just going to go in. 44:06.700 --> 44:09.420 Out of the Archer Halibut, he's got a few traps for the TCs. 44:09.420 --> 44:12.060 I feel like Loco's living his last days right now. 44:12.060 --> 44:13.820 Yeah, exactly. 44:13.820 --> 44:19.460 Loco simply can't do anything else other than raiding, but raiding without siege won't kill 44:19.460 --> 44:20.460 that thing. 44:20.460 --> 44:22.420 And there's Halib's in defense. 44:22.420 --> 44:24.020 Yeah, beautiful defense. 44:24.020 --> 44:25.020 Good position on these Halib's. 44:25.020 --> 44:26.540 So, Tinoff is actually gaming. 44:26.540 --> 44:29.420 He is really, really good at Age of Empires, too, man. 44:29.420 --> 44:30.420 Love to see his progress. 44:30.420 --> 44:34.140 And he's going to go in with all his army now while defending with a little 44:34.140 --> 44:38.580 a habit here keeping local at bay the king is running the king is running the 44:38.580 --> 44:44.220 king is running to the corner ladies and gentlemen local scared for his life he was 44:44.220 --> 44:48.380 being threatened by that elephant archer that was forward as well yeah not 44:48.380 --> 44:52.860 still missing the last armor on those elite elephant archers they can just 44:52.860 --> 44:58.980 dive in under the town centers under the castle more more freely but he also 44:58.980 --> 45:04.980 So, it does have the unique technology which allows them to regenerate, so that's fantastic. 45:04.980 --> 45:07.980 Oh, I love that. Yeah, it's a pretty good tech. 45:07.980 --> 45:10.980 Cavalier always raiding through that little secret passage, by the way. 45:10.980 --> 45:13.980 Knopf has been hard punished for not walling that secret passage. 45:13.980 --> 45:15.980 Love to see these raids coming in from Locos still. 45:15.980 --> 45:17.980 He's still trying, but take a look at this. 45:17.980 --> 45:19.980 There's no defense for Locos farms. 45:19.980 --> 45:22.980 Just a few halvediers would just do so much damage here. 45:22.980 --> 45:31.740 The absolute real issue is that the 60 halvediers on the field right now from Knopf have no answer 45:31.740 --> 45:32.740 from Loco. 45:32.740 --> 45:33.740 Yeah. 45:33.740 --> 45:40.900 He never actually got to any type of addition to counter that infantry. 45:40.900 --> 45:41.900 Yeah. 45:41.900 --> 45:47.020 Yeah, like what we're seeing from Loco is that he's really good at executing what 45:47.020 --> 45:50.340 he knows, but he seems to be a little bit one dimensional. 45:50.340 --> 45:57.840 In Ichimafar's 2, being 1 dimensional is good for some things, but it's also very bad for some things like he just never got a Habitur counter. 45:57.840 --> 46:03.140 And Habitur, when you're playing a full cavalry strategy, is like the one thing you should be prepared to counter. 46:03.140 --> 46:09.340 And Loko seems like he hasn't even thought about countering the Habiturs, which seems to be a deadly mistake that has really cost him this game. 46:11.840 --> 46:14.840 I wish Yamato would hear you say this. 46:14.840 --> 46:23.400 Yamato feels very strongly about half a year's countering Calvary, it's like a snail that 46:23.400 --> 46:25.720 you just ignore and run away from it. 46:25.720 --> 46:33.520 Which is true to Summix, but yeah, when you're actually being forced to take these direct 46:33.520 --> 46:35.800 fights, you kinda have to counter them. 46:35.800 --> 46:40.240 Yeah, here's the thing, Yamato's a loop daddy and he's also looping in the castle 46:40.240 --> 46:42.760 age where you have a lot of time to run around. 46:42.760 --> 46:45.700 impure lich is not a lot of looping to be done if the guy comes in with five 46:45.700 --> 46:48.880 trebuchets and 20 halves you have to fight them head-on if I'm gonna take out 46:48.880 --> 46:53.320 the trebs some loco trying to go for one last king's night maybe he had the 46:53.320 --> 46:56.840 seed round but look at this the walls from Knopf the halvediers were there 46:56.840 --> 47:00.800 Knopf very very impressive game to be honest he got pushed to the limit 47:00.800 --> 47:04.840 local play a great game local play a great game he got pushed and the 47:04.840 --> 47:08.160 king's making a run the king's making a run where's the king going loco's 47:08.160 --> 47:13.880 I think you hit him with the IEUX and you go to this corner hit him with the IEUX and strategy 47:14.680 --> 47:17.920 Right, but in that corner is going to run straight into the 47:18.840 --> 47:19.880 table 47:19.880 --> 47:22.880 We'll see what he's gonna do. He's running. He's on the move 47:24.120 --> 47:28.760 We're on very low pop right now loco. We'll keep it on this king. There's really not much else going for loco 47:28.760 --> 47:30.760 It's got one more seedram push 47:30.760 --> 47:33.100 Maybe maybe there's some trebuchets on the trebuchets 47:33.100 --> 47:36.760 some cavalry I think you can still make a snipe on that king but you need trebs 47:36.760 --> 47:40.860 not siege ramps. A king is running to the middle of the map this is like the most 47:40.860 --> 47:45.140 exposed king ever. Knopf can go treason and snipe him potentially, ramps on to the 47:45.140 --> 47:50.780 wall but the habits are always there in time. True, I would say it's like 400 gold I think. 47:50.780 --> 47:55.380 Yeah treason is 400 gold. Yeah you have to go for it. Yeah. 47:55.380 --> 47:59.940 Unless I want to buy more food we'll see what Knopf does to that gold of course. 47:59.940 --> 48:03.520 Maybe he wants another cheeseburger. 48:03.520 --> 48:06.280 Maybe some fries, you know, he's got some options there. 48:06.280 --> 48:10.880 Yeah, treason could come in, treason of course, attack that reveals the enemy king temporarily, 48:10.880 --> 48:13.980 but it could be very good when you're just kind of ramming through the space. 48:13.980 --> 48:16.560 Locos not resigning, which is completely fine. 48:16.560 --> 48:20.200 In Reddissat Fortress, you could always make a king snipe, and by the way, he can just 48:20.200 --> 48:24.000 sell his stone, make like two three trebuchets, and make a run for this king. 48:24.000 --> 48:25.000 It's possible. 48:25.000 --> 48:28.320 It's open down here, you bring in three trebs, knock the castle, come back with 48:28.320 --> 48:29.320 the like out. 48:29.320 --> 48:31.320 It could happen. 48:31.320 --> 48:39.320 Oh, for Knoff he was thinking about going and putting a house there and he just misses those like-ups. 48:39.320 --> 48:42.320 Anything to finally close that off? 48:42.320 --> 48:44.320 What are we seeing here? Another Siege workshop here. 48:44.320 --> 48:48.320 Does Loko know about the Trebuchet? Like, surely he knows about the Treb? 48:48.320 --> 48:52.320 He's not making any, but I think the Treb is the one thing that can give him a chance to win this game. 48:52.320 --> 48:58.320 Did someone tell him how to kill castles? Because no one told Death Note. 48:58.320 --> 49:00.320 Are you serious? 49:00.320 --> 49:09.320 Well, I saw a screenshot on the tournament discord yesterday when he said no one told me how to kill castles. 49:09.320 --> 49:15.320 Oh my god, I missed that. Death Note doesn't do anything that someone doesn't tell him to do. It's so funny. 49:15.320 --> 49:19.320 It's really hilarious. Nobody told me to make villagers. That was like the day one. 49:19.320 --> 49:22.320 The day one is like, nobody told me how to fight with my army. 49:22.320 --> 49:27.440 me. It's two jokes. He just needs to be taught everything, but yeah, maybe no one taught local 49:27.440 --> 49:31.280 how to kill castles and how to make trebuchets and now he's going to lose his castle. 49:31.280 --> 49:33.200 His officer certainly knows. Where's the king? 49:33.200 --> 49:35.840 He's in the corner. What? 49:35.840 --> 49:40.720 What is this village doing? No, continue. He doesn't know. 49:42.080 --> 49:47.200 Wait, wait. Did he know? I don't think he knows. He's just chopping wood. 49:47.200 --> 49:50.480 I think he's just chopping wood. This is crazy. He's in a blood bath. 49:50.480 --> 49:56.060 It looks like temporarily he was looking for something, but I think now he's just going back to the wood line 49:56.060 --> 49:58.960 This guy might go out of mission, but it's the IEX strategy 49:59.600 --> 50:05.060 At the top he send the how the dears. He's like, hmm. He's not in that corner. Let me check this one, but 50:07.280 --> 50:13.280 Yeah, I think you might be right. I think this how the dears going to the corner. I think it's crazy. I think nof is going in 50:14.080 --> 50:17.320 Okay, we'll see how that plays out. Knopf is looking for the king in the corner 50:17.320 --> 50:21.580 Of course, we'll see if he's managing to find that guy. I think he's going straight for it 50:21.580 --> 50:27.020 I use and your strategy is being used in the term. It's still local has one last push. It's one last seed round 50:27.400 --> 50:33.140 But that's a very very ambitious push at this point locals got like nothing 50:33.140 --> 50:36.940 He's got zero zero zero GG well played he played that one to the bitter end though 50:36.940 --> 50:42.760 You can't really blame him Knoth gets to win and really well played from trough. Honestly. I have to say 50:42.760 --> 50:47.240 very very impressive performance Gigi in the chat guys local also with a great 50:47.240 --> 50:52.000 strategy but just a little one-dimensional for my taste miss Daniella 50:52.000 --> 50:59.800 yeah absolutely it feels also that for for this type of strategy if you miss your 50:59.800 --> 51:07.400 timing you let Javidians get to this comp and I don't see how poles even fight 51:07.400 --> 51:11.440 this comp effectively yeah it's a good point like okay let's take a look at 51:11.440 --> 51:14.880 options here like you could go like skirmishers but then again Dravidians 51:14.880 --> 51:19.840 have their own skirmishers that are better more armor faster firing you could 51:19.840 --> 51:24.280 go for like maybe obelisk it could be a decent option bomber cannons decent for 51:24.280 --> 51:29.800 poles as well maybe heavy scorpions we get those no no heavy scorpions yeah 51:29.800 --> 51:33.200 maybe like storms are obelisk but you really don't have the most amount of 51:33.200 --> 51:37.600 options as poles so I think local tried his best given the circumstances and 51:37.600 --> 51:48.600 He had a good run. He did raid a lot of Knopf's economy, but Knopf I think his resilience and his recovery was the way to come back in this game. 51:48.600 --> 51:57.600 Yeah, really well played from Knopf. Nice way to get back on track with the villagers as well. 51:57.600 --> 52:03.560 I think the local did very well was rating his entire base look at that 200 bills 52:03.560 --> 52:10.200 Well, and in the end in not favor of course he killed all of locals economy, but even in the early game 52:11.840 --> 52:18.920 Local was doing a fantastic job rating left and right and not was just keeping his cool replacing his losses 52:19.520 --> 52:24.980 Just doing his thing and look at them. Yeah, like local 70 military. It's great 52:24.980 --> 52:29.500 Yeah, Loko plays the last like the first bunch of Cavalier first bunch of villagers 52:29.500 --> 52:31.500 But as the raiding kept getting heavier and heavier 52:31.580 --> 52:35.980 He just kind of stumbled a bit, you know behind and you know all credit to Loko as well 52:35.980 --> 52:38.540 Like he is punching a little bit above his elo here 52:38.900 --> 52:41.460 So we'll see what he can do for the next match, but keep in mind 52:41.860 --> 52:45.020 Loko's an Arabia specialist. All right. We saw him playing as Otofu 52:45.020 --> 52:50.980 He has a really good strategy on a raid because the infantry opening with the Romans or the Japanese and he goes for the 52:50.980 --> 52:54.580 Rampush maybe some scorpions. He's really really good at the infantry seat 52:54.580 --> 52:58.580 So it's look it's locals home map for this next game, and we'll see what you can do 52:58.580 --> 53:00.660 Let me just quickly show you guys that the brackets here 53:01.380 --> 53:03.380 Because we got a lot of guys coming in now 53:03.460 --> 53:05.780 Knopf versus local is the match for casting right now 53:05.780 --> 53:08.520 This is the last loser bracket best of three round 53:09.020 --> 53:12.120 Afterwards we're gonna hop into the main event of the day, which is the best of five rounds 53:12.120 --> 53:16.500 We got a lot of really cool matchups after this match. It's the top eight by the way 53:16.580 --> 53:20.300 So local and Knopf are fighting for a spot in the top eight of the tournament 53:20.300 --> 53:24.300 We started with 20 streamers and I'm going to be down to the final eighth very shortly. 53:24.300 --> 53:27.260 It's a crazy tournament and I hope you guys are having a great weekend. 53:27.260 --> 53:28.940 It's a good time to enjoy some major vampires too. 53:31.660 --> 53:35.260 Yeah, I'm looking really much forward to the next matchup. 53:36.060 --> 53:37.900 It is going to be Arabia, just like you said. 53:37.900 --> 53:43.260 Now I'm curious from what I've seen enough is the type of player that usually goes for 53:43.260 --> 53:48.380 Cavalry, maybe Franks, that probably will be his pick. 53:48.380 --> 53:54.740 I feel like Cavalry, if you're set up on that mentality, you know, I'm gonna go make scouts 53:54.740 --> 54:01.140 in tonight's gonna overwhelm my opponent with the raids and everything, can have a big, 54:01.140 --> 54:06.260 big issue playing against an infantry push of that sword that you were describing earlier. 54:06.260 --> 54:10.460 Yeah, I have to say, I just don't feel like Cav has really been performing today, 54:10.460 --> 54:14.640 Honestly, like I think or not today but in general obviously they lost one match today 54:14.640 --> 54:18.240 But I'm not gonna make a conclusion out of that but in general in the tournament 54:18.340 --> 54:22.480 Cavalry has not been the best unit class the best unit class has actually been infantry believe it or not 54:22.800 --> 54:30.000 Infantry has performed so freaking well. I think archers did okay nice of doing okay, but like most games are won through infantry 54:30.820 --> 54:33.200 Sorry, we've had a little technical difficulty here 54:33.200 --> 54:37.220 I'm gonna just get back into this game right away, and then we can hop in they've started the next game 54:37.220 --> 54:44.220 to be Arabia and we'll break it down for you guys. Let's do it. 54:44.220 --> 54:48.220 Hoping into the game right about now. 54:48.220 --> 54:51.220 Fantastic, here we go. 54:51.220 --> 54:53.220 Oh, romance Mongols. 54:53.220 --> 54:59.220 I like the Mongols pick. We've seen this match before. We're going to fix the cameras here real quick as we just go about things. 54:59.220 --> 55:02.220 But yeah, Knopf versus Loco here. Let's see how it goes. 55:02.220 --> 55:06.220 Knopf in the blue and Loco in the red. That should do the cameras beautifully. There we go. 55:06.220 --> 55:08.620 Let's take a look at how this plays out. 55:08.620 --> 55:13.540 So Knopf playing in blue as the Mongols and it's going to be a very spicy pick. 55:13.540 --> 55:15.940 We've actually seen this matchup I think earlier. 55:15.940 --> 55:17.540 I don't know if Tofu was Mongols. 55:17.540 --> 55:18.540 I think he was. 55:18.540 --> 55:22.100 Yeah, I think we saw Mongols versus Romans in the last local matchup. 55:22.100 --> 55:23.100 She played against Tofu. 55:23.100 --> 55:24.900 Tofu rocked the Mongols as well. 55:24.900 --> 55:26.540 Local force won that match. 55:26.540 --> 55:31.020 He's back with the Romans, but this time up against Knopf was up 200 Elohi on paper. 55:31.020 --> 55:33.060 Let's see what Locke can bring to the table though. 55:33.060 --> 55:34.340 He is on his trusty Romans. 55:34.340 --> 55:35.860 He loves to play the infantry. 55:35.860 --> 55:40.040 The Mongols from Jof, I haven't seen him play it too much, but I think I did a coaching session 55:40.040 --> 55:41.040 with him. 55:41.040 --> 55:42.660 So he played it in the ranked ladder race. 55:42.660 --> 55:44.820 I know he knows the sip, which is good. 55:44.820 --> 55:49.980 I don't think we've had any mirror matches so far, did we? 55:49.980 --> 55:50.980 I don't think so. 55:50.980 --> 55:55.380 No, despite it being possible, we don't have a single mirror match, which is crazy. 55:55.380 --> 55:58.140 Because I would expect a megyar mirror. 55:58.140 --> 56:04.660 Megyar has been crazy much picked by all of the players, all of the participants. 56:04.660 --> 56:08.740 I could have sworn we're going to see at least one so far and we didn't 56:08.740 --> 56:11.860 We might see a Roman mirror if I had to guess 56:11.860 --> 56:15.300 Honestly, I think Roman mirror could definitely come to be 56:15.300 --> 56:17.460 Because you have a lot of Roman pickers 56:17.460 --> 56:19.460 Magger mirror could happen 56:19.460 --> 56:23.460 But like if you think about who's picking Maggers right now, it's like Sing Sing 56:23.460 --> 56:27.780 Who else? Like maybe Grubby's played a little bit of Maggers but not much more than that I feel 56:28.980 --> 56:34.340 Yeah, and Sing Sing is actually picking Maggers to play them quite standard 56:34.660 --> 56:37.860 Yeah, yeah. We have like a couple of different approaches to the Maggars. 56:38.260 --> 56:39.260 What do you see? 56:39.260 --> 56:40.260 Loco, no! 56:40.760 --> 56:42.760 Ah, not the best boiler here. 56:43.160 --> 56:45.160 Loco may be crumbling under the pressure. 56:45.460 --> 56:48.060 Pressure from a match point. Remember, this is a loser bracket matchup. 56:48.360 --> 56:50.260 So whoever loses here is out of the tournament. 56:50.660 --> 56:51.760 And Loco... 56:53.060 --> 56:56.360 With a failed boiler, it's not the worst though. It's okay. 56:56.560 --> 56:57.760 It is acceptable. 56:57.960 --> 57:02.260 But Knopf, in comparison, very nice Mongo boiler. Remember, Mongols eat their hunts much quicker? 57:02.260 --> 57:08.400 And we have some deer on the front. I'd love to see local, sorry, Knopf just pushing those deer as the mongol. Definitely worth going for that. 57:10.000 --> 57:19.120 Absolutely, I agree. Actually, I've seen that happen a lot, is that they garrisoned a tiny bit too early and either the boar wants to go back. 57:20.660 --> 57:27.200 Because the vill that aggroed it is not there anymore to chase. Or, like it happened in locals case, 57:27.200 --> 57:34.440 The next villagers just pops out right out of the TC and it blocks the board so he can't chase it anymore and the 57:34.760 --> 57:36.760 TC killed it. Yeah 57:36.800 --> 57:42.680 What's funny is that we had Lewis casting loco yesterday and he's talked about how he had a whole session teaching loco how to learn 57:42.680 --> 57:44.360 Bors and 57:44.360 --> 57:48.320 Apparently it's a really big problem for loco. He's gotten much better according to what Lewis has said 57:48.320 --> 57:54.520 But still having some trouble here. I had a chatter asked me how bad is that border? It's very bad 57:54.520 --> 57:58.040 So, okay, there's a little bit of scout action but nothing too crazy 57:58.240 --> 58:04.800 So if you just consider it like you have a lot of walking time two tiles of walking time from ten villagers and every time they walk that it's like 58:05.120 --> 58:11.280 Three resources per villager that's just gone. It's just three villagers worth of three resources worth of time 58:11.280 --> 58:16.960 That's gone if they walk it twice with two villagers you're down 60 resources in the early game. That's pretty bad 58:17.920 --> 58:23.160 So it's not game losing. It's not like a huge huge deal, but it is pretty bad when it comes to dark age efficiency 58:24.520 --> 58:31.520 Yeah, just like it says, especially in Dark Age, all of these things might seem insignificant, 58:31.520 --> 58:35.520 but the Dark Age is what sets you up your entire game plan. 58:35.520 --> 58:39.520 So it's only going to get... 58:40.520 --> 58:48.520 The earlier you have this inefficiency, basically the worse it is because it's a bigger percentage of your economy. 58:48.520 --> 58:53.480 When RTS like snowballs are disadvantageous like it snowballs the advantages like if you make a mistake 58:53.480 --> 58:56.380 You're gonna feel that mistake for the next transition for the next transition 58:56.380 --> 59:01.020 So in general you want to play as perfectly as possible as the the main idea 59:01.440 --> 59:06.840 When it comes to early game and you know just build other developments. Knopf by the way is on gold 59:06.840 --> 59:09.800 I have no idea what he's doing on gold here now 59:09.800 --> 59:12.080 He could go for some scouts as a general 59:12.440 --> 59:17.360 Mungo opener because he's on gold. He's definitely not doing that. It's also not a fast castle 59:17.360 --> 59:19.740 So this can be Minna Arms and it can be Archers. 59:19.740 --> 59:23.620 Nothing else makes sense with the gold pickup here from Knopf. 59:23.620 --> 59:24.620 He's trying to lure a deer. 59:24.620 --> 59:26.540 He's got no food in another town center. 59:26.540 --> 59:30.180 It's looking a little messy for Knopf as well, to be fair here. 59:30.180 --> 59:34.180 Yeah, oh no. 59:34.180 --> 59:37.540 I hate when huntables do that. 59:37.540 --> 59:40.380 Yeah, they're sticking to the woodlands and it's impossible to get them off. 59:40.380 --> 59:41.380 It's so annoying. 59:41.380 --> 59:42.380 A little bit of walling. 59:42.380 --> 59:45.340 So it looks like it's going to be walling in Archers from Knopf. 59:45.340 --> 59:49.540 archer open to counter the infantry from loco so here's the thing loco has been 59:49.540 --> 59:53.820 very predictable with the infantry opening it's okay to be predictable but it has 59:53.820 --> 59:57.980 its disadvantages of course if one I can counter you loco loco should lose a 59:57.980 --> 01:00:02.740 scout yeah it's not Sam Jason beautiful Knauf will kill the scout feudal 01:00:02.740 --> 01:00:06.980 scout gets faster and stronger so loco cannot even run away from this it's 01:00:06.980 --> 01:00:10.260 got the infantry maybe you can survive if you run back to the militia but 01:00:10.260 --> 01:00:15.180 right now infantry from loco has tried and tested Roman infantry might save a 01:00:15.180 --> 01:00:23.900 scout here. Very good micro from Noff, yeah, just manages to sneak away. I gotta say, generally 01:00:23.900 --> 01:00:30.300 from watching local play in the previous series and watching him play today, to me it comes 01:00:30.300 --> 01:00:40.500 as nervous. Oh yeah. There are some slip-ups that I haven't seen in the previous Dark Ages 01:00:40.500 --> 01:00:48.100 for now, like the man at times is a tiny bit late, 47 seconds idle TC time, that's one 01:00:48.100 --> 01:00:55.060 Ville worth of idling your TC, so definitely some things went a tiny bit wrong there. 01:00:55.060 --> 01:00:59.740 Yeah, but even still he's still punching at a decent time here despite the inefficiencies. 01:00:59.740 --> 01:01:04.220 Will loses Scout if he's not careful though, but overall he's doing okay to start off 01:01:04.220 --> 01:01:05.220 this early game. 01:01:05.220 --> 01:01:09.260 He's not pushing off the berries, that's the only food income for our Mungo player. 01:01:09.260 --> 01:01:13.380 It's a big deal to get pushed off various right now and great micro where control, didn't 01:01:13.380 --> 01:01:16.340 really eat the TC, just took a few hits but it's fine. 01:01:16.340 --> 01:01:19.140 Locals should play towards that armor with the Romans, there it is, the Blacksmiths coming 01:01:19.140 --> 01:01:20.140 up. 01:01:20.140 --> 01:01:21.140 We've seen this time and time again. 01:01:21.140 --> 01:01:24.140 If you've watched any Kings Gauntlet you know about the Romans and their armor. 01:01:24.140 --> 01:01:27.260 Knoff is going to be on archers though, five archers in the queue. 01:01:27.260 --> 01:01:31.700 Now, when it comes to against Roman infantry you need clutching, so I want to see that 01:01:31.700 --> 01:01:35.180 Blacksmith come through for Knoff as soon as possible. 01:01:35.180 --> 01:01:42.020 I also like that he is sitting a couple of farms because even with the blacksmith he could 01:01:42.020 --> 01:01:48.860 not have afforded a hundred food and he's not producing verges at the moment. 01:01:48.860 --> 01:01:53.300 Like you said, being pushed off of various went a bit terrible for him. 01:01:53.300 --> 01:01:56.420 He has little to no food income. 01:01:56.420 --> 01:01:57.420 Yeah, absolutely. 01:01:57.420 --> 01:01:59.860 You've got to get your food set up. 01:01:59.860 --> 01:02:00.860 He's recognizing that. 01:02:00.860 --> 01:02:02.860 It's actually great on Knopf, really well played. 01:02:02.860 --> 01:02:05.460 It shows a deep understanding of this early game from Knopf. 01:02:05.460 --> 01:02:08.700 He makes a few farms, then he makes the blacksmith really, really smart. 01:02:08.700 --> 01:02:11.540 If he did the blacksmith first, he wouldn't be able to make villagers, let alone pick 01:02:11.540 --> 01:02:14.540 up that fletching technology that's so crucial. 01:02:14.540 --> 01:02:15.540 Loco does have the armor. 01:02:15.540 --> 01:02:16.540 Six-minute arms now. 01:02:16.540 --> 01:02:19.380 He's brought three more, just flashing back to Loco's economy, and he's setting 01:02:19.380 --> 01:02:20.380 up some farms. 01:02:20.380 --> 01:02:24.660 He's doing well back here, and he's bringing in six-minute arms now to try to find 01:02:24.660 --> 01:02:29.700 a way in through Knopf's base, but Knopf has the full wall so far, minus the front. 01:02:29.700 --> 01:02:31.700 It's playing pretty well 01:02:33.220 --> 01:02:35.220 I've seen 01:02:35.380 --> 01:02:44.220 H.R.O.C. game from yesterday and H.R.O.C. beat himself up so badly for not coming forward with a tower 01:02:44.780 --> 01:02:46.780 Yeah, I 01:02:47.740 --> 01:02:49.900 Honestly would like to see that more 01:02:50.300 --> 01:02:55.520 Yeah, that tower play especially when you scouted that that's Knoth's only woodline 01:02:55.520 --> 01:02:59.380 I think that could panic him quite a bit yeah 01:02:59.380 --> 01:03:03.400 I think the only players that have really experimented with towers forward is maybe like some of like grubby 01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:07.060 I don't think anyone else has that tried out the towers forward 01:03:07.060 --> 01:03:11.960 But it's such a good play right now to go for it like Knoth only has this woodland take a look at his map 01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:17.820 This one's exposed this one's very exposed if local come forward four villagers tower behind here 01:03:18.200 --> 01:03:23.260 Pressures the wood line that could be very very solid, but I just don't think he's gonna think about that 01:03:23.260 --> 01:03:26.240 He's gonna go for the more safe approach the more planned approach 01:03:26.240 --> 01:03:33.940 Which just to wall up his base try to play towards castles also fair, but I do agree Daniela a little bit more like a diverse opinion 01:03:34.260 --> 01:03:40.200 Sorry diverse strategy could be good and I use in a saying I use it also up for four towers. I'm sorry grubby and I use 01:03:40.620 --> 01:03:43.200 How can I disrespect the goat like that? Why bad brother? 01:03:45.040 --> 01:03:46.700 Also 01:03:46.700 --> 01:03:48.420 local 01:03:48.420 --> 01:03:54.100 He is walling his base in an egg shape that I don't like the back wall hair. I don't 01:03:54.660 --> 01:03:56.660 Oh, yeah, she is better 01:03:59.580 --> 01:04:07.300 He does have a hole in between the houses in front of his gold. I'm not sure he he noticed that he scout went through there 01:04:08.220 --> 01:04:11.900 He's a bonus scouts, sorry, but I don't think local noticed it 01:04:12.100 --> 01:04:15.740 Yeah, quickly show the hole in a second, but show that an office 01:04:15.740 --> 01:04:20.380 using the archers very well in defense has a quite attack right now so oh hole here oh my goodness 01:04:21.100 --> 01:04:26.700 exactly those archers could just jam in there ah the starcraft the warcraft players none of these 01:04:26.700 --> 01:04:31.580 players know how to wall base it's crazy there's a huge hole here it's it's quite an obvious one but 01:04:31.580 --> 01:04:35.020 it's obvious to us maybe the obvious the local has got a thousand things going on 01:04:35.020 --> 01:04:38.460 it's going to go from a defensive range maybe some stirmishers planned but if the archers go 01:04:38.460 --> 01:04:43.180 straight in through that wall through that hole it's disaster for local local seize it please 01:04:43.180 --> 01:04:48.460 some of you see it I mean the man turns one in the weapons are in your base they 01:04:48.460 --> 01:04:53.500 have to go he does spot it can office going straight through there so that's 01:04:53.500 --> 01:04:57.860 such an important wall off from from loco and we'll see the wall up down bottom 01:04:57.860 --> 01:05:01.700 loco sees the army coming in you got a wall a little faster though no like this 01:05:01.700 --> 01:05:07.460 is like taking our time here but you see if their reaction from this place I 01:05:07.460 --> 01:05:11.860 wouldn't expect this from someone that literally just started to play four 01:05:11.860 --> 01:05:17.820 weeks ago. Knopf was going with his archers there, he scouted, immediately pulled the 01:05:17.820 --> 01:05:20.820 archers away. Okay, I'm going for the palisade because that's weaker. 01:05:20.820 --> 01:05:25.340 Yeah, it's so smart. Like, you saw a hole, okay, it's there, okay, it's walled, no problem, 01:05:25.340 --> 01:05:29.740 go down here, hit the palisade, beautiful, he's enforcing the defensive tower, the locus 01:05:29.740 --> 01:05:32.780 villagers all over the place by the way, he's not able to really get those walls 01:05:32.780 --> 01:05:36.020 down. Archers will be coming in, we have some skirmishers, but the skirmishers are 01:05:36.020 --> 01:05:39.980 late, no upgrades on the skirms either. Guys, these archers can do a lot of damage, 01:05:39.980 --> 01:05:43.560 around the goal but no town in the wood it's open oh my goodness this could be 01:05:43.560 --> 01:05:49.000 really bad for local here. Oh both of the wood lines could be incredibly 01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:53.480 pressured soon. Yep. Oh that's straight up open he's going straight for them. Yeah 01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:57.040 we have some inner arms this is defendable that villager not so much 01:05:57.040 --> 01:06:03.800 though. Yeah. No not the... What? We just walked past the villager Knopf the 01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:07.340 Merciful doesn't kill the villager goes for the army. This is crazy 01:06:10.220 --> 01:06:12.220 Good micro that's a big 01:06:13.020 --> 01:06:15.020 Archer number 01:06:15.220 --> 01:06:19.100 And the legit goes down no villager goes down you're asking for it honestly 01:06:19.100 --> 01:06:23.300 It's not still merciful, but he was asking for it. What can you do bro? What could you do? 01:06:23.900 --> 01:06:29.540 Knopf get pressure here forcing the flushing out of local coffins almost up to castage as well by the way 01:06:29.700 --> 01:06:32.260 So behind this vehicle castage you go crossbows 01:06:32.260 --> 01:06:36.260 Maybe even a search tonight has been a great position with the Mongols here. 01:06:36.260 --> 01:06:40.260 I need Loco to somehow get the castle edge. I think it's the only chance he has to win this game. 01:06:40.260 --> 01:06:45.260 He's going for the market. See what Loco can do to try to get up to the next age here. 01:06:45.260 --> 01:06:52.260 I like how active Malf is with his military. He's just going to move them behind the wood line. 01:06:52.260 --> 01:06:57.260 There are scrims in defense, but the scrims, if they stay in that position, won't be able to defend those wheels too much. 01:06:57.260 --> 01:07:03.020 much. He's still gonna cause idle time. Yeah, see, now Loco's panicking and he's 01:07:03.020 --> 01:07:08.900 moving his entire wood line back and forth. Yeah, it's getting away from that, like, but 01:07:08.900 --> 01:07:12.340 this is good though. This is good from Loco, like, I like they just hit the wood on this 01:07:12.340 --> 01:07:16.660 side. What are you seeing, Danila? What are you seeing? Oh, I'm seeing Noth going for a 01:07:16.660 --> 01:07:20.340 second range and a stable. That tells me he's planning on maybe going 01:07:20.340 --> 01:07:25.060 Cav Archers. Could be Cav Archers. Could also be, yeah, he's not making more 01:07:25.060 --> 01:07:28.380 archers so it could be cab archers for sure which is a good transition here great 01:07:28.380 --> 01:07:32.060 against the Romans. I was just surprised I don't think I've ever seen him play 01:07:32.060 --> 01:07:37.100 cab archers. Oh okay yeah actually no I've seen him play I did a coaching with him 01:07:37.100 --> 01:07:41.460 he did cab archers but he lost the game so let's see maybe maybe not the best 01:07:41.460 --> 01:07:47.380 memories there but hopefully he can still play them well. He did well with them 01:07:47.380 --> 01:07:51.060 to be fair it wasn't the cab archers fault we lost it wasn't my fault 01:07:51.060 --> 01:07:55.420 either or mind you guys oh great microphone cloth wow what archer steps the 01:07:55.420 --> 01:07:59.500 villager and gets out that's insane bro that's so insane 01:07:59.500 --> 01:08:04.500 hera snipe in the chat quick quick hera snipe in the chat little bill snipe he 01:08:04.500 --> 01:08:08.380 gets out like nothing even happened that was crazy meanwhile attack on the left 01:08:08.380 --> 01:08:15.580 could I be so high level it's fantastic I'm so impressed right now like a local 01:08:15.580 --> 01:08:19.180 is the struggling right now yeah he's up to the next stage but woodlands 01:08:19.180 --> 01:08:26.920 moving villagers not enough on food I feel like I feel like also local doesn't 01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:31.960 really plan on a transition he has like his okay longswords plus siege forward 01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:37.000 plan but right now he's kind of forced on staying in a defensive position yeah 01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:41.920 absolutely I think local and like dude Knopf always just comes in steps a 01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:45.480 unit just gets out he's so good with the micro he doesn't overdo it which I 01:08:45.480 --> 01:08:50.280 like as well. Local has the Skirmishers, but he's not really able to use them. See, he's 01:08:50.280 --> 01:08:55.120 gonna probably go Elite Skirmisher plus Longsword, something like that in the Castle Age. But 01:08:55.120 --> 01:08:59.960 his economy is quite messy. Look at this Crossbow upgrade coming in. No botkin yet, but Knoff 01:08:59.960 --> 01:09:03.320 is certainly going for a lot of pressure. It's actually a two stable place, so it's 01:09:03.320 --> 01:09:07.920 not Cavarchers. It's Crossbow Incinites. Also a good option. A couple camels for 01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:10.000 no reason though, okay? 01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:21.000 I think he misclicked, he opened straight up to camels right away, I think that was a misclicked probably, he did change to Knights, but yeah. 01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:24.000 Also confusing your opponent, it's a good strategy. 01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:30.000 Yeah, like, Loco seems like, oh shit, I can't go Knights. Your force seems to think Exo, which is good. 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:36.000 Kind of funny, using these camels. I mean, it's still a decent unit, it's not horrible, but it is terrible, so gotta keep that in mind. 01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:42.840 that in mind long-sword upgrade for loco and lots of it's pretty good big a big 01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:48.560 difference it's not horrible but it is there is a difference actually if you 01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:52.760 watch any death note coaching you know there is a huge difference between them 01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:58.120 alright alright I would like to see how aggressive not will continue with his 01:09:58.120 --> 01:10:03.960 gameplay what his plan his plan is to put a second to see which I don't mind 01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:12.960 I'm always a big fan of going Siege Forward when you're in a pushing position like this. 01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:17.960 Yeah, I mean Siege Forward could be good, but at the same time, you're already playing so much with your army. 01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:20.960 Adding in those town centers is just such a safe way to play. 01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:22.960 And if anything, this show is disciplined from top. 01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:24.960 This shows that he's not in a rush to end the game. 01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:28.960 He's not like playing a strategy where he has to win on the certain timing push. 01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:30.960 He's playing Age of Empires too. 01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:36.460 He's playing good timings, good micro, good macro, he's playing a balanced approach, and 01:10:36.460 --> 01:10:41.320 I think that shows that he's got a good future ahead of him to be fair here, and Knoff has 01:10:41.320 --> 01:10:47.560 a hard bracket ahead of him, but so far so good, he's making good work of loco. 01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:52.080 Loco's playing well, but Knoff is definitely outplaying him in many aspects of the game 01:10:52.080 --> 01:10:53.080 right now. 01:10:53.080 --> 01:11:00.640 Like we said earlier, the loser of this game is out of the tournament, he's eliminated. 01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:03.720 The winner is going to be facing H.R.O.C.E actually. 01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:04.720 Big A in the house. 01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:06.280 Okay, that's a tough round. 01:11:06.280 --> 01:11:11.720 H.R.O.C.E's been playing really well to prepare much to my disapproval, but he's playing well. 01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.240 I'd love to sit here and say that he's not, but he is. 01:11:15.240 --> 01:11:21.320 Next versus Long Sword fight, we'll engage with down here. 01:11:21.320 --> 01:11:22.840 The Long Swords are pushing this back. 01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:27.360 They only have one armor, but there's the Long Swords plus two armors coming in 01:11:27.360 --> 01:11:33.040 as I speak and requires for extra speed on them that I like it's a very important 01:11:33.040 --> 01:11:37.240 upgrade especially for the infantry which is considered a slow unit generally in 01:11:37.240 --> 01:11:40.640 the game. Yeah we are seeing the forward siege that we talked about earlier it's 01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:44.440 not quite that timing push with the siege but it is a very nice way to put on 01:11:44.440 --> 01:11:47.920 put on some more pressure in this late castlage. I think what Knauf wants to 01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:51.280 do here is just establish his economy so it feels safe and then I just got a 01:11:51.280 --> 01:11:54.720 little bit extra rest to play with to go for the push. Boku down here also 01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:58.420 So sneaking towards each of his own, maybe thinking about getting to a counter attack, 01:11:58.420 --> 01:12:02.260 syncing for the ram, this is what he always goes for, ram longsword. 01:12:02.260 --> 01:12:07.700 It's crazy that he got pushed off from this timing push, but he's going to go back to it 01:12:07.700 --> 01:12:10.820 when he can, so Loco is dedicated and he's disciplined. 01:12:10.820 --> 01:12:13.140 He's always going to go for that same push that he planned. 01:12:13.140 --> 01:12:14.460 It's kind of crazy to see that. 01:12:14.460 --> 01:12:15.460 I like it, honestly. 01:12:15.460 --> 01:12:17.980 I like that idea from Loco. 01:12:17.980 --> 01:12:18.980 You know what I like? 01:12:18.980 --> 01:12:24.540 The fact that he is not really going forward with the push, like he recognizes that 01:12:24.540 --> 01:12:29.860 Okay, this might be an issue. Let me deal with this first and I think that Ram is gonna go for this workshop 01:12:32.300 --> 01:12:37.900 Yeah, dude local's not out of this game at all like he's down a lot of villagers, but his arm is quite solid 01:12:37.900 --> 01:12:43.140 It's just I don't know how strong these nights will be for Knoth. He's got one armor upgrade on the no bloodline 01:12:43.140 --> 01:12:45.660 So they're decent, but this magina could make a 01:12:46.380 --> 01:12:49.340 huge shot here. Oh my goodness. Oh 01:12:50.460 --> 01:12:53.300 The scrims are downhill and trapped 01:12:53.300 --> 01:12:58.880 the next just to your house the swordsman got got chased got busy chasing three 01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:02.940 archers here but not the best idea with the swordsman he had to kind of defend 01:13:02.940 --> 01:13:07.380 your skirmishers I feel like Locos armies and now a lot weaker that was a 01:13:07.380 --> 01:13:12.340 bad two minutes for mr. Locos the ram is passing by the manganale what are we 01:13:12.340 --> 01:13:18.780 even seeing here it's kind of a mess on the screen thing is and now what it 01:13:18.780 --> 01:13:24.740 would be important from local to recognize on he is the rangers are are 01:13:24.740 --> 01:13:28.620 out there's nothing stepping your monks monks could get some very valuable 01:13:28.620 --> 01:13:32.100 conversions and there's actually a monastery up next to his gold yeah gonna 01:13:32.100 --> 01:13:35.700 get a couple of months on the field yeah a few monks I wouldn't even mind 01:13:35.700 --> 01:13:40.420 pikemen I think anything that gets you a push live in the next three 01:13:40.420 --> 01:13:43.780 minutes is the way to go guys if you don't have a push for local you don't 01:13:43.780 --> 01:13:46.700 have a game to play you've got 40 villagers of course he didn't know 01:13:46.700 --> 01:13:51.980 but you can imagine that Knopf has a much better economy. Knopf on that 3TC boom with Mongols. 01:13:53.020 --> 01:13:57.980 Mongol late game would destroy Roman late game or especially a fragile Roman late game that 01:13:57.980 --> 01:14:01.980 Locos playing towards. So Knopf is in a great position. Locals has to make something happen 01:14:01.980 --> 01:14:06.060 quick within the next few minutes. Remember no king to snipe. We need a legitimate push 01:14:06.060 --> 01:14:09.820 in the next few minutes or else he's out of the tournament. Not a great position from him 01:14:09.820 --> 01:14:12.340 Let's see what he can do. 01:14:12.340 --> 01:14:19.220 I could see a world where Locos is double goal comp, he's his crossbowman, his his knight 01:14:19.220 --> 01:14:26.180 is like okay no way he's adding eco behind this, he's added a lot of army, but yeah 01:14:26.180 --> 01:14:34.100 actually Nof did add a second to see he's at 93 villagers, 50 more eco than Locorino. 01:14:34.100 --> 01:14:39.800 Yeah it's such a massive economy advantage and I think Knopf is using that beautiful 01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:44.800 He's like not fighting fights that are risky. I really like guys. Oh speaking of which 01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:48.680 I mean maybe this one maybe the riskier play he's done maybe got us a trap actually 01:14:49.320 --> 01:14:53.120 Like curse the commentator there. He's got himself trapped with seven nights ladies and gents 01:14:53.120 --> 01:14:56.160 But before that he was not taking risky fights 01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:02.240 Maybe that one. Yeah a little bit out there. I mean sure and nights are in the back 01:15:02.280 --> 01:15:05.200 He's gonna lose them in the meantime the manganelle killed 01:15:05.200 --> 01:15:10.900 locals entire woodline and there's a new wave of military. The difference in 01:15:10.900 --> 01:15:14.880 economy right now for Knopf is absolutely insane and what's that gonna do? 01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:23.120 Well just make him able to replace his losses instantly basically. Yeah. A lot 01:15:23.120 --> 01:15:29.040 of knights in the field here. Beautiful place so far from Knopf. Lost those 01:15:29.040 --> 01:15:32.000 ones that went in though so that was definitely a misplay but it's not one 01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.560 you can't recover from. Remember seven knights are important but when you 01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:39.520 got a hundred villagers you can usually replace those. I can go for another raid. I do want to see more 01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:43.760 upgrades on these knights though. No bloodlines, no armor, no attack. I'm missing a lot of really 01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:46.880 important upgrades on these knights and I feel like it would really help them out to pick those up 01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:53.840 at some point. Raids are just going crazy and they're going at the top. There's almost an 01:15:53.840 --> 01:16:01.680 over chop. There's a tree with 20 wood left that she's chopping. So for the knights hitting a 01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:04.960 house. Some engagements on the front. Locals have another Magano. The siege 01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:08.160 person has really not been the most successful. He got some kills with the 01:16:08.160 --> 01:16:11.520 Magano over the tree line, but I think he's crazy behind that. Local with another 01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:16.640 conversion. These conversions are really keeping him in the game. Yeah, especially 01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:20.040 because then he's sending the converted knights to raid those 01:16:20.040 --> 01:16:23.520 villagers that were forwarded. It's actually quite funny. Yeah, getting a lot of 01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:27.160 value from those converted knights. Definitely some reinforcements here. 01:16:27.160 --> 01:16:30.240 And by the way, the chat's getting into it, but we have a little bit of a 01:16:30.240 --> 01:16:37.000 Warcraft vs Starcraft matchup here by the way, local representing Starcraft and off representing Warcraft of course 01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:43.560 So the chat can get into on which RTS is the more more elite player player base, but you know 01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:46.400 I don't know if this this match gets the conclusion drawn 01:16:46.400 --> 01:16:51.080 But something to talk about at the very least Warcraft players have been doing well this tournament. That's for sure 01:16:52.320 --> 01:16:55.400 And Balkan arrow coming in as long way 01:16:56.240 --> 01:16:58.480 three brand new archer rangers 01:16:58.480 --> 01:17:05.480 But now I actually have plus two on the cavalry as well, so a tiny bit all over the place. 01:17:05.480 --> 01:17:13.480 Upgrades for Knoth. I don't necessarily like that because I feel like you don't really want to invest at this point of the game 01:17:13.480 --> 01:17:18.480 in stuff that you're not going to use. You want to go up with those resources in the bank. 01:17:18.480 --> 01:17:23.480 Yeah, I agree, but he's going to go with the four castles and maybe just spam some military until you get that one up. 01:17:23.480 --> 01:17:26.820 You get that one up. Huge Magano shot on the nose of those longswordsmen. 01:17:26.820 --> 01:17:28.820 Another one hits the longsword head on as well. 01:17:28.820 --> 01:17:32.000 This is looking good for Knop. That Magano's getting so many kills at the back. 01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:33.320 It's already at five kills. 01:17:33.320 --> 01:17:35.320 But two conversions for Loco. 01:17:35.320 --> 01:17:37.320 Loco could turn this around. Loco's winning the fight. 01:17:37.320 --> 01:17:39.820 That castle might be a huge blunder. 01:17:39.820 --> 01:17:41.820 Oh my goodness. Knop had a huge lead. 01:17:41.820 --> 01:17:44.320 He's double the vilplop. He goes for a disaster castle. 01:17:44.320 --> 01:17:45.820 A doubt castle. 01:17:45.820 --> 01:17:47.820 Loco needed this. Loco's got so much armor in the field. 01:17:47.820 --> 01:17:49.820 He deletes it. Oh my god. 01:17:49.820 --> 01:17:50.820 Oh my god. 01:17:50.820 --> 01:17:55.020 Hi, it was at 70% he lost so much stone with that. 01:17:55.020 --> 01:17:59.020 That's crazy Knoth with a huge blunder! No way! 01:17:59.020 --> 01:18:04.020 You don't delete that, you don't delete that. He has resources in the bank for days. 01:18:04.020 --> 01:18:08.520 He could have messed, tripled the amount of military that local has on the field right now 01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:13.220 and just swing the fight back, had to be patient, and then finish the castle later. 01:18:13.220 --> 01:18:18.020 100% agree, you can always sneak 10 bills around and finish it, but deleting that castle right away 01:18:18.020 --> 01:18:20.020 Not the right call from Knoth. 01:18:20.020 --> 01:18:24.020 Loco, it has a death ball cooking up! He's got 44 military! 01:18:24.020 --> 01:18:26.020 I can't believe what I'm seeing here! He's got the ram! 01:18:26.020 --> 01:18:30.020 He's got a lot of military monks, longswords, skirmishers. 01:18:30.020 --> 01:18:32.020 Everything's coming in for the push! And Loco's going for it! 01:18:32.020 --> 01:18:37.020 Dude, this is crazy! This game should be completely over, but Knoth has kind of thrown it! 01:18:37.020 --> 01:18:42.020 It should be. We went from, okay, there's so freaking many 01:18:42.020 --> 01:18:48.220 Ville's advantage for Knoff, but I'm looking at the military and it's 50 to 17. 01:18:48.220 --> 01:18:54.220 At this level, Daniella, at this level, military can be way better than an economic lead. 01:18:54.220 --> 01:18:54.720 Yeah. 01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:59.220 Because you just push, you push, the other guy panics, but Knoff, okay, gonna get involved 01:18:59.220 --> 01:19:00.220 with the villagers. 01:19:00.220 --> 01:19:02.820 He's gonna snipe that batting ram, that's pretty good for him. 01:19:02.820 --> 01:19:05.220 No siege means he won't lose town center. 01:19:05.220 --> 01:19:09.220 The next ram is already on its way, the local's very disciplined in bringing in that siege. 01:19:09.220 --> 01:19:13.020 Guys, I can't believe that we have some late, uh, Castle Age drama here. 01:19:13.020 --> 01:19:14.720 Kroff is almost up to imp! 01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:18.220 We talked about this, Daniela, he could just go up to imp if he wants to really secure this game, 01:19:18.220 --> 01:19:19.720 but now there's no time it feels. 01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:22.920 He needs more military on the field, the ram is coming in, local, let's go for the push! 01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:25.520 You can't go right now, you can't go to imp. 01:19:25.520 --> 01:19:28.820 If you waste all of your resources in the bank, you're dead. 01:19:28.820 --> 01:19:32.720 You have nothing against all of this, and look at local's resources. 01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:35.320 Local had a bunch of stuff. 01:19:35.320 --> 01:19:43.080 He just killed more ramps, scorpions forward, more longswords, this is his time, his time window to push and 01:19:45.160 --> 01:19:47.960 Composited damage that he took the entire game until now. 01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:54.680 Hey, dude, the momentum stream we're seeing is like nothing before. If this game goes local's way, this is the biggest comeback of the tournament so far. 01:19:55.400 --> 01:19:58.680 I can't believe what we're seeing here. Local is just going crazy. Look at that. 01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:04.120 He's got tons of swordsmen, 12 swordsmen at home. If he spots those, dude, if he spots those, that's a huge force. 01:20:04.120 --> 01:20:07.000 And oh my goodness cloth them another castle at home 01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:12.560 This time in a safe location kind of but Floco spots that which he will he could try to die 01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:16.760 Is he's the castle local has the scorpion's he's got a lot of swordsmen in the queue 01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:21.780 Ram is there close by as well. Ram is actually taking the ranges scorpions 01:20:22.240 --> 01:20:27.180 Okay, so it has to not have a ballistics, but it doesn't matter because here come the 01:20:28.520 --> 01:20:30.640 The scurns as well this could go 01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:39.160 I think he gets it and he needs this one Knopf could hold with that castle to score switch 01:20:39.160 --> 01:20:45.080 local has a score lead but only temporary because the castle is up and very very beautiful 01:20:45.080 --> 01:20:49.840 holds from Knopf okay it's not another disaster dude well freaking play from local he had 01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:54.680 a real shot at that great great play from local to really turn the tide of the engagements 01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:59.880 there punish Knopf that forward cast of Knopf though good job recovering but I mean 01:20:59.880 --> 01:21:04.800 this economy not not nearly as clean as it could be now 01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:08.640 absolutely and i'm telling you here are not this panicking right now not it is 01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:10.360 just like 01:21:10.360 --> 01:21:13.800 clicking on all of his production buildings and just producing it he has 01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:15.840 a four-random scout in there 01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:17.440 in the queue 01:21:17.440 --> 01:21:21.400 he doesn't even he doesn't care like he's okay i just want to deal with this 01:21:21.400 --> 01:21:25.880 i just want military to push us back but he's also taking bad fights he 01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:27.480 sent them one by one 01:21:27.480 --> 01:21:31.640 And the small groups of military are eaten alive by those longswords. 01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:33.600 Yeah, like, Loco has less army. 01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:36.280 Oh, sorry, less economy, excuse me, he's got more army. 01:21:36.280 --> 01:21:38.680 And with that more army, he's actually taking better trades. 01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:41.880 I wouldn't be surprised if Loco is gonna continue massing up a death ball, 01:21:41.880 --> 01:21:43.760 and he can go for a huge push very soon. 01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:46.560 What a fantastic game, too, though, between these two players. 01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:49.000 Absolutely loving every minute of it. 01:21:50.480 --> 01:21:52.920 This game has been absolutely insane. 01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:58.920 Knopf does take a look at his resources and puts a farming to see in the back of his base. 01:22:00.420 --> 01:22:04.220 He still needs to replace the losses from his main farms. 01:22:04.220 --> 01:22:08.220 He has 51 on wood. Just pull half of them, send them back to farms. 01:22:08.220 --> 01:22:11.620 Yeah, yeah, take the vegetables off wood, farm at the back. 01:22:11.620 --> 01:22:13.220 You have a lot of space to do that. 01:22:13.220 --> 01:22:14.520 Knopf is just trying to survive. 01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:16.520 Loco, I thought there was a Loco town center. 01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:18.020 Knopf town center, okay. 01:22:18.020 --> 01:22:19.720 Knopf town center back in the front. 01:22:19.720 --> 01:22:24.920 Loco's trying to massive a ram push again and see if he can take out that castle. 01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:28.920 I think Loco needs to take a lesson from Yamato and loop around. 01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:32.280 Going for that castle head on is suicide in my opinion and he's gonna try it though. 01:22:32.280 --> 01:22:34.760 He's gonna try it. This is a dual-die play from Loco. 01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:37.320 Is this enough to push the castle? What do you guys think chat? 01:22:37.320 --> 01:22:40.280 Is this good enough or not? Three rams with swordsman inside. 01:22:40.280 --> 01:22:42.920 One of them goes down already. I'm not sure. 01:22:43.800 --> 01:22:47.240 Yeah, he needed more rams. He's sending more rams. 01:22:47.240 --> 01:22:51.640 Actually, Vils trying to get an engagement, going down to the longswords. 01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:56.320 Knopf is kind of stabilizing his eco behind all of this. 01:22:56.320 --> 01:22:59.080 And I would like a couple of Mengedai from the castle. 01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:03.640 I don't know if he remembers, but the Mengedai actually have bonus damage against siege. 01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:07.240 So a couple of Mengedai behind his castle, shooting at those rams 01:23:08.360 --> 01:23:10.720 could do some bonus damage to those rams. 01:23:11.040 --> 01:23:13.080 Yeah, Mengedai would definitely be the right call. 01:23:13.080 --> 01:23:18.440 But I think either way, Manga Dye or not, Loco's lost his entire push. 01:23:18.440 --> 01:23:20.840 Ah guys, it was a great push. 01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:23.800 The Starcraft community very well represented by Loco. 01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:28.600 He made you guys proud no doubt, but now it's all Knoff with some raids at the back. 01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:31.640 The push is cleared and Knoff recovered beautifully. 01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:35.800 Like we saw in that first game, Knoff led that recovery and the GG well played is dropped. 01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:40.520 Loco drops out of the tournament, but guys GG well played in the chat for Knoff. 01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:46.920 a great recovery from a disastrous forward castle, but the guy can play and the guy can continue fighting. 01:23:46.920 --> 01:23:52.040 Love to see that we had the farmland set up such an entertaining and exciting first set of the day. 01:23:52.040 --> 01:23:55.080 It's 2-0, but my god, were these guys evenly matched. 01:23:55.080 --> 01:23:59.640 I was trying to say it in the end, but before anyone says anything about Locust's performance, 01:23:59.640 --> 01:24:02.200 I think he played fan-freaking-tastic this set. 01:24:02.200 --> 01:24:04.680 And I really, really think he had a great tournament. 01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:09.080 He played above his elo of 1200 right now, closer to something like a 1400. 01:24:09.080 --> 01:24:13.320 I also think Kroff played above his elo. Both players definitely played well here. 01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:19.800 Honestly, continuing on that note, I think... I don't know, maybe I'm just super hyped up about 01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:26.520 this tournament, but I feel like all the participants are. I think Sing is, I think... 01:24:28.360 --> 01:24:34.440 Noff is, like you said, I think Death Note is. Death Note being several hundred 01:24:34.440 --> 01:24:39.440 Elo away from his opponents and playing at their level was crazy so so the local 01:24:39.440 --> 01:24:45.920 this didn't feel like a 200 Elo gap and just like you said local played a 01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:51.040 fantastic tournament so far and what I admire the most about his playstyle is 01:24:51.040 --> 01:24:56.400 you know that fighting spirit you know and not giving up yeah he played to 01:24:56.400 --> 01:25:00.820 the end you know yeah exactly exactly and I love to see that yeah and he 01:25:00.820 --> 01:25:03.600 didn't just play to the end and like do things that wouldn't work like 01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:07.920 Like, Loco really gave a good shot at winning this game with that last round, which of course 01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:12.080 maybe rushed it to go for the castle, but at the same time, Knoff, didn't have more villagers. 01:25:12.080 --> 01:25:13.520 You kind of have to rush it. 01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:16.520 But Loco, I really thought for a second there that he can win this game. 01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:17.520 So he really well played. 01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:19.600 Guys, he's got an 0-7 in the chat for Loco. 01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:20.800 He's out of the tournament. 01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:24.040 He drops out as just around before top eight. 01:25:24.040 --> 01:25:26.640 So 0-7 in the chat salutes to Mr. Loco. 01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:27.840 He did a great job. 01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:30.320 Loco, thank you so much for participating in the tournament. 01:25:30.320 --> 01:25:32.400 I'm actually really proud of his performance. 01:25:32.400 --> 01:25:37.120 good guy and he brought his best to the field. Daniela, thank you so much for casting with 01:25:37.120 --> 01:25:41.480 me today. I hope we'll see you tomorrow for one more cast as well for the tournament. Great 01:25:41.480 --> 01:25:46.680 job and thank you for joining us. Absolutely. Thank you so much once again for having me. 01:25:46.680 --> 01:25:52.720 I'm here available. Have a fantastic rest of the day with the rest of the sets. Once 01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:58.120 again, great, great tournament, Hera. Thank you so much once again for putting it together. 01:25:58.120 --> 01:25:59.120 And yeah, see you around. 01:25:59.120 --> 01:26:00.120 Take it easy. 01:26:00.120 --> 01:26:01.120 Have a good one. 01:26:01.120 --> 01:26:02.120 You too. 01:26:02.120 --> 01:26:03.120 Bye-bye. 01:26:03.120 --> 01:26:04.120 Bye, Chad. 01:26:04.120 --> 01:26:05.120 All right, guys. 01:26:05.120 --> 01:26:06.120 That is Daniella. 01:26:06.120 --> 01:26:09.340 If you guys want to see more from her, she is a caster in the scene. 01:26:09.340 --> 01:26:12.040 She's also a pretty solid 81-parts 2 player in her own right. 01:26:12.040 --> 01:26:14.000 She does a lot of content around the AW2 community. 01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:15.720 So check her out on Twitch. 01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:18.720 Daniella, you guys can find her there and show her some love. 01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:21.840 Maybe a shout out on the Twitch stream as well for her channel. 01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:22.840 Definitely check her out. 01:26:22.840 --> 01:26:23.840 She does a good job casting. 01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:24.840 Take a look at her racket, guys. 01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:28.280 is updating this in real time. At least I hope so. Let's get a refresh here. 01:26:28.280 --> 01:26:32.760 That was a set that was a fake set for today. That was the last set that should 01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:36.680 have been played yesterday. Today has officially started guys. Welcome into the 01:26:36.680 --> 01:26:41.200 Saturday Sunday of the Kings Gauntlet. We have the loser bracket round three. 01:26:41.200 --> 01:26:44.720 A best of five round. Now we're in the best of five stages which means first 01:26:44.720 --> 01:26:47.960 one to three points and we have the first set that's gonna start. I think 01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:52.920 it's gonna be Wagamama versus Synxing. A Dota 2 matchup. These guys played 01:26:52.920 --> 01:26:59.800 Dota 2 competitively on the same team. And the Waga Mama against Singsing is such an entertaining 01:26:59.800 --> 01:27:04.100 matchup. They're both really good friends. It's Dota vs Dota. We have Loco in the chat 01:27:04.100 --> 01:27:08.280 saying, DDs that tried my best. Loco, you did such a good job, man. Honestly, really 01:27:08.280 --> 01:27:12.240 well done today. You did a good job. You did your best. And you should be proud 01:27:12.240 --> 01:27:15.880 of your performance, man. You took out some killers. You took out Tofu. You had 01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:21.320 a decent matchup against Lama in the first round as well. So, Loco, no shame in 01:27:21.320 --> 01:27:24.920 dropping out. Cronoff definitely played really well here. 01:27:24.920 --> 01:27:28.840 A local will be casting the next set. Let me just get the camera set up and then 01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:33.000 we can bring him in and kind of talk a little bit of what's going on over the 01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:36.360 next over the next series here. We're gonna just hang up the cams here. I'm 01:27:36.360 --> 01:27:39.800 waiting for Wagamama's camera by the way. Wagamama, if you're listening, we need 01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:44.200 your camera. We have things in here. We're gonna put things in to the 01:27:44.200 --> 01:27:50.520 boxes. There we go. I don't know where the blue boxes went. 01:27:50.520 --> 01:27:52.520 Oh wait, no that's not the right one. 01:27:52.520 --> 01:27:54.520 Yeah. 01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:56.520 Just like this. 01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:01.520 Anyone else that was casting when I was down? 01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:03.520 I don't know if you're casting actually, you're just in general. 01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:05.520 Wait, you might not be casting actually, I have no idea. 01:28:05.520 --> 01:28:07.520 Are you since casting the next set? 01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:08.520 No, you're not casting. 01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:10.520 Join us though, local, join us. 01:28:10.520 --> 01:28:12.520 Come on in, local. 01:28:12.520 --> 01:28:15.520 Let me move, let's move local into the main room. 01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:17.520 You can just talk a little bit while we get ready for the next set. 01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:19.520 Give your final words for the guys. 01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:23.120 So what's up man, how'd you enjoy the tournaments and the GG's well played bro? 01:28:23.120 --> 01:28:30.600 Yo that was really fun, yeah I had a good time, that final game felt like I was so dead 01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:35.440 early on already and then it got pretty close I think in the end but it was a good time. 01:28:35.440 --> 01:28:39.480 Yeah, I think you had a really good shot at winning that last one, the push was so 01:28:39.480 --> 01:28:44.000 live, obviously I think you could not play a great game like overall it was a hard 01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:48.480 compared to a fight against but I think you had like really good chances both games 01:28:48.480 --> 01:28:51.760 And especially that first game was a bloodbath, but I try to get your take on it. 01:28:51.760 --> 01:28:53.600 How did you enjoy the King's Gallant as a whole? 01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:55.200 Hope you had a good time playing it. 01:28:55.200 --> 01:28:56.880 How did you enjoy the ladder race, etc.? 01:28:57.600 --> 01:28:59.040 Dude, I had a great time. 01:28:59.040 --> 01:29:02.960 I started playing AOE 2 like three weeks ago or so. 01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:06.880 I played it a tiny bit as a kid, but I'd never really given it a proper shot. 01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:10.800 I tried HMMPars 4 when that first came out, then I played that for like 100 hours, 01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:12.240 but I never really enjoyed it as much. 01:29:12.240 --> 01:29:12.960 Yeah. 01:29:12.960 --> 01:29:14.480 AOE 2 has been a banger, man. 01:29:14.480 --> 01:29:20.480 I'm actually planning on keeping the elo coming, I want to continue climbing. 01:29:20.480 --> 01:29:26.080 I want to see how far I can go with probably Arabia only and mostly Medetarm rushes. 01:29:26.080 --> 01:29:27.680 I want to see how far I can climb. 01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:28.680 No, that's awesome to hear. 01:29:28.680 --> 01:29:31.960 I'm sure so many people from the AV2 community are so happy to hear that and will continue 01:29:31.960 --> 01:29:33.880 supporting your journey. 01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:37.080 That's really why we do these tournaments, to introduce AV2 to a bunch of different 01:29:37.080 --> 01:29:38.560 people, a bunch of different communities. 01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:40.320 I'm just getting word that the game has started. 01:29:40.320 --> 01:29:41.720 I told them to wait for me, but they didn't. 01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:44.360 So, Loco, we'll let you go now, but thank you so much for coming on then. 01:29:44.360 --> 01:29:47.360 All right, no worries about it. Take care guys. 01:29:47.360 --> 01:29:53.360 Have a good one. Let's look at everyone. Thank you so much, Loco, once again for everything he's done for the events. 01:29:53.360 --> 01:29:56.360 Wagon, Sing Sing, the Dota players don't listen at all by the way. 01:29:56.360 --> 01:30:02.360 Take no difficulty, I'll just restart the match and we're going to have Ai-Uksin I think for this next gasp, which is fantastic. 01:30:02.360 --> 01:30:07.360 Let's go ahead and get Ai-Uksin in here while I set up the next game. 01:30:07.360 --> 01:30:08.360 Yo-yo! 01:30:08.360 --> 01:30:12.360 Yo, Ai-Uksin, good to hear from you, bro. Hop into this game in just a second. 01:30:12.360 --> 01:30:14.920 Uh, what about you, Xen, this is you, meh. 01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:19.560 And good to be here, thank you for having me again. 01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:25.720 Yeah, for sure, you can't get enough of you, this time it's going to be a best of five, by the way, for the first time ever, guys. 01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:30.120 Uh, and it's going to be between the two Dota players, what do you make of this matchup, I Xen? 01:30:30.120 --> 01:30:38.200 Uh, you're one that, you know, talked to Waga a bunch, I think, earlier, and you kind of know a little bit more of what Waga's capable of, you also played against Xenxing. 01:30:38.200 --> 01:30:45.080 So what do you make of this matchup here? Two Dota 2, X-Pros going at it, but before you give me your thoughts just get some energy in the chat, guys. 01:30:45.080 --> 01:30:51.800 The first best of five of the King's Gauntlet, Wageverse and Sing Sing, a crazy good matchup, and Game 1, Rediside Fortress here. 01:30:51.800 --> 01:30:53.800 Aiuksin, talk me through the players now. 01:30:55.000 --> 01:31:05.320 Before I jump into that, I would really love to go through the basics of the statistics on this screen to really give an understanding to everyone watching who is getting advantage, 01:31:05.320 --> 01:31:09.960 especially once the skirmish is going to be over, once the skirmish is starting. 01:31:09.960 --> 01:31:11.080 If you don't mind. 01:31:11.080 --> 01:31:11.960 Oh, for sure, go ahead. 01:31:13.160 --> 01:31:14.920 Okay, let's start with the villager count. 01:31:14.920 --> 01:31:17.160 Can you please show us the villagers? 01:31:17.160 --> 01:31:19.480 Guys, this is the economy. 01:31:19.480 --> 01:31:23.880 This is with this number, you fight in Age of Empires too. 01:31:23.880 --> 01:31:29.000 In the previous game, we've seen Knoth having double the army, 01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:33.320 double the villagers, and he was able to bounce back quite easily. 01:31:33.320 --> 01:31:41.240 Now in the bottom right you have idle TC time and that represents idle time for when the TC 01:31:41.240 --> 01:31:49.000 was not producing villagers and during the skirmishes it's very easy to forget about it and 01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:56.040 if the enemy doesn't despite you winning fights you are going down and the last very important 01:31:56.040 --> 01:32:02.920 metric is villager efficiency in the last minute it's very very at the bottom right 01:32:03.320 --> 01:32:10.280 and you can pay attention at these numbers to see how they change once, let's say, aggressive rush 01:32:10.280 --> 01:32:17.560 from the archers or men at arms will be happening in the games to come. And that's it. That's it for the 01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:22.840 introducing of the interface. I like it. That's good. I think the chat was taking notes. They 01:32:22.840 --> 01:32:27.560 were studying up there. I saw a few guys with the desk out and taking those notes and so it's 01:32:27.560 --> 01:32:32.040 always good. We have a lot of new guys watching, so definitely good to explain some of the 01:32:32.040 --> 01:32:37.160 things on the screen. I see actually really useful. So the guy first time chat, I used 01:32:37.160 --> 01:32:40.360 it and you've helped at least one person in the chat, but I'm sure you helped many, many 01:32:40.360 --> 01:32:43.560 more actually. We have a lot of people that are new to spectating Age of Empires, but 01:32:43.560 --> 01:32:48.000 yeah, excellent statistics. Remember guys, economy is just as important as military 01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:51.640 in Age of Empires 2 and we see the kings about to have a meetup potentially at the 01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:54.560 top, but they're just kind of scouting in this early game. Remember if you lose 01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:57.800 the king, you lose the game, but in the early game there's no threat, so they 01:32:57.800 --> 01:33:00.960 just go ahead and scout. I'm going to go ahead and break the Siv matchup down 01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:06.880 for you guys. Mongols versus Britons. Mongols is one of the trusted civilizations for Singsing 01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:12.040 and Wagga. We've seen him go for the infantry rampage on the last match in Red Iset Fortress. 01:33:12.040 --> 01:33:15.800 This time he's not doing it. So he's not going to go for something like, you know, 01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:20.920 we saw him do it with the Japanese. We saw it happen with Mr. Llama with the Malay, 01:33:20.920 --> 01:33:24.600 that infantry rampage. But here we have the Britons, just a solid civilization that 01:33:24.600 --> 01:33:28.960 can go for a little bit of a boom, a little bit of, you know, a long bowman. 01:33:28.960 --> 01:33:33.280 an archer based sieve, so expect a lot of range units from them. Mongols, usually a 01:33:33.280 --> 01:33:36.880 cavalry based sieve, but they have some strong siege, but what I expect from this 01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:41.580 game is he balance the approach of micro and macro. Ayuksen, what do you favor in 01:33:41.580 --> 01:33:44.420 terms of these sieve matchups here? What do you know about Mongols versus 01:33:44.420 --> 01:33:47.800 Britons? You know, of course limited knowledge, I want to play for a few weeks, 01:33:47.800 --> 01:33:53.100 but I'm curious to get your opinion on the matchup. So I actually have no 01:33:53.100 --> 01:33:57.340 idea about the strength and the weaknesses of this civilization. I have 01:33:57.340 --> 01:34:03.140 under 100 hours in the game so I'm going to leave this detailed analysis to you 01:34:03.140 --> 01:34:11.380 but what I do know is that Sing Sing wins 64% of games in matches that last 01:34:11.380 --> 01:34:17.740 longer than 40 minutes. Oh wow! I've spoken to him and he said his plan is to 01:34:17.740 --> 01:34:22.700 get into the late game because that's where he thinks Vaga is very bad. 01:34:22.700 --> 01:34:25.200 Oh wow! That's interesting! 01:34:25.200 --> 01:34:36.200 Looking at the stats of from Vaga, he has 77% wind rate in the games that last 2-25 minutes. 01:34:36.200 --> 01:34:43.200 However, the wind rate drops dramatically in 40 minute games down to 43. 01:34:43.200 --> 01:34:44.200 Okay, wow. 01:34:44.200 --> 01:34:51.200 So, just looking at the stats, Sync Sync might have insane advantage in the late game, 01:34:51.200 --> 01:34:55.680 and that's why I would expect from Waga push early on. 01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:58.960 Like all in, forward, castle, whatever it takes 01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:01.520 just to make sure to keep the pressure early. 01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:02.720 Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. 01:35:02.720 --> 01:35:04.240 Remember the ladder race? 01:35:04.240 --> 01:35:08.400 Of course, your Sing Sing played a kind of a balanced approach. 01:35:08.400 --> 01:35:09.600 He would rush early a little bit, 01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:12.320 but he'd, you know, often a lot of his games would go to the late game. 01:35:12.320 --> 01:35:14.160 Waga would always rush 01:35:14.160 --> 01:35:16.480 and he'd win those games around 15 to 25 minutes 01:35:16.480 --> 01:35:19.680 with those men of arms, those longsruths in feudal age. 01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:25.120 He would really play that early hyper-aggression style, however the problem this year for Waga 01:35:25.120 --> 01:35:28.240 is that on this map it's really hard to push. 01:35:28.240 --> 01:35:31.800 I mean we've seen a couple pushes work really well, but with the Britons you don't really 01:35:31.800 --> 01:35:34.280 have that much push potential in the early game. 01:35:34.280 --> 01:35:36.200 It's more of a boom and a control civilization. 01:35:36.200 --> 01:35:40.640 You want to control the map with your long range long bowman, a long range arbalust, 01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:44.560 maybe some trebuchets, maybe some halberd deer, but you're not going to have that 01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:49.280 kind of like run in with like mass infantry ram or run in with cavalry and try to 01:35:49.280 --> 01:35:55.000 end the game early. It's more of a slow build up. So, Waga may be playing against his strengths 01:35:55.000 --> 01:36:00.120 on paper, but potentially doing that because he knows that Singsing won't die early. So, 01:36:00.120 --> 01:36:06.240 honestly, really interesting to see the stats there, I use them. Thanks for presenting them. 01:36:06.240 --> 01:36:12.520 Having spoken to Waga, he said that his plan to take down Singsing was through trying 01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:18.960 stuff he never tried before. Now, the Brickens is something that he played yesterday 01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:21.040 against the speed and bridge. 01:36:21.040 --> 01:36:25.920 And so it's his second time on Fortress Map. 01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:27.920 So he has a little bit of experience. 01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:32.240 It's not too all in strut that he's seen on the YouTube. 01:36:32.240 --> 01:36:35.720 So I'm really excited to see what players have, 01:36:35.720 --> 01:36:37.800 what are they going to bring to the table. 01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:44.640 And with one last thing that I would like to mention 01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:47.840 about the formant that we are expecting, 01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:52.160 This is where, as long as your king lives, you are in the game. 01:36:52.160 --> 01:36:57.560 And can we point out at this little flag waving above the castle? 01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:01.360 This is an indicator that there is something horizontal in here. 01:37:01.360 --> 01:37:07.680 Now, as viewers, we can see the crown on the minimap to know where the king is. 01:37:07.680 --> 01:37:10.960 But for the player, it's not clear. 01:37:10.960 --> 01:37:16.120 And this flag above the towers, TCs and castles 01:37:16.120 --> 01:37:23.960 might be a clue for where the king is hiding, exactly that, so you could potentially try 01:37:23.960 --> 01:37:29.600 to throw the enemy off by putting, let's say, one-minute arms, which is super cheap to produce, 01:37:29.600 --> 01:37:36.080 and you put it in the tower, and let it be there an entire game, and try to force him 01:37:36.080 --> 01:37:41.040 to make a mistake and send his army to potentially snipe the king there. 01:37:41.040 --> 01:37:45.840 Yeah, you can garrison anything into the tower and kind of activate and not be the king. 01:37:45.840 --> 01:37:48.440 Let's see what the approach is for the players here. 01:37:48.440 --> 01:37:53.040 The Sing Sing with a two-town center setup also has a monastery, so he wants to play for the relics. 01:37:53.040 --> 01:37:58.640 He's also making some Mangadai, the very, very powerful cavalry archer unit for the Mongols. 01:37:58.640 --> 01:38:03.940 This unit is one of the best units in the game when masked, but so is the longbowman from Wagga Wagga's 01:38:03.940 --> 01:38:07.940 heading straight into this fight. I don't know if he knows that he will lose this fight, 01:38:07.940 --> 01:38:16.940 He's taken it with a lot of confidence, so Xinxing's back it off, but Xinxing should win this fight with some micro. Xinxing's got one of the best micro in the tournament. It's fantastic. 01:38:16.940 --> 01:38:32.940 That's incredible. Having played against Xinxing, who's much better than me, I've noticed how much attention he pays at the relics, and he tries to pick them up very, very early. 01:38:32.940 --> 01:38:47.940 Now, trying to remember the build myself, managing economy, producing army, I really don't have the mental power to be able to get monastery and he already has army there, protecting it. 01:38:47.940 --> 01:38:53.940 In my case, I would just send the monk and hope for the best. If he keeps the coin flip, he either makes it or not. 01:38:53.940 --> 01:38:59.660 But it really shows the approach from Singsing where it's calculated. 01:38:59.660 --> 01:39:02.460 He knows he's gonna need the army. It's already there. 01:39:02.460 --> 01:39:06.200 The monk is walking the path that is already protected. 01:39:06.200 --> 01:39:08.200 Great, great performance. 01:39:08.200 --> 01:39:09.900 Yeah, Singsing is actually guarding all the relics. 01:39:09.900 --> 01:39:12.740 He even scouts this one relic that he didn't scout before with this monk. 01:39:12.740 --> 01:39:14.400 So now he knows about all the relics, 01:39:14.400 --> 01:39:16.000 and he's even guarding every single one of them. 01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:18.580 So Singsing is telling us that if he's gonna play for the relics, 01:39:18.580 --> 01:39:22.440 he's gonna do it in a way that's planned, calculated, and consistent. 01:39:22.440 --> 01:39:27.200 He's consistent playing towards multiple relics, and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets all five. 01:39:27.200 --> 01:39:29.260 The thing is, the Waga is not really playing for the relics. 01:39:29.260 --> 01:39:32.380 He made a couple long bowmen, but not much more than that. 01:39:32.380 --> 01:39:39.660 He's on 3,000 boom with a nice 3-village lead, but it's not that good because Singsing already has his 3rd townster coming up. 01:39:39.660 --> 01:39:47.560 And just a 3-village lead is not anything impressive or anything out of the world in terms of economic advantage. 01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:50.240 However, he does have a couple extra economic upgrades as well. 01:39:50.240 --> 01:39:57.240 So, slight economic advantage for Waga, but at the cost of Sing Sing getting the relics, personally, I prefer Sing Sing's position overall. 01:39:57.240 --> 01:40:00.540 I think having those relics is worth way more than a 5-villager lead. 01:40:00.540 --> 01:40:02.940 It's gonna help him a lot in late game. 01:40:04.240 --> 01:40:09.940 Having aimed for bringing the game past minute 40, Sing Sing focuses on the relics. 01:40:09.940 --> 01:40:13.040 Now, what is the benefit of having the relics? 01:40:13.740 --> 01:40:16.040 Yeah, so the relics give you passive gold income. 01:40:16.040 --> 01:40:20.520 At a slow rate, you know every relic gives you a slow little trickle of gold 01:40:20.680 --> 01:40:26.980 But if you have all five relics, it's actually a pretty fast trickle and quite significant because it's infinite 01:40:27.040 --> 01:40:30.400 It's in infinite and indefinite trickle of gold 01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:34.400 So once all the gold on the map has run out and there's no more minerals to mine 01:40:34.440 --> 01:40:38.860 The guy with the relic still has that passive gold income that's gonna be taking throughout the game 01:40:38.860 --> 01:40:44.280 So it's a very nice advantage for late game and gold is a very scarce resource and a very important one for the late game 01:40:44.280 --> 01:40:48.080 Let's make all kinds of siege powerful military units and upgrades 01:40:48.080 --> 01:40:52.140 So definitely very important to secure your gold and relics are one way to do it for late game 01:40:52.140 --> 01:40:58.380 There's one relic in the corner that things thing has not scouted by the way and why guy has an outpost getting set up with some vision here 01:40:58.380 --> 01:41:06.920 Very nice. Oh, that's interesting. I think vision is very important to be able to react to potential army 01:41:07.480 --> 01:41:09.800 coming in so I love that if 01:41:09.800 --> 01:41:16.600 If Vagamaga puts a couple more that would give him quite the advantage and he does. 01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:19.840 He does that, Villager goes on to build yet another outpost. 01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:22.720 Yeah, and Sincin could knock this down by the way. 01:41:22.720 --> 01:41:26.240 Sincin could easily just knock this down but it takes like a good what? 01:41:26.240 --> 01:41:28.720 Like one or two minutes to knock that down and then you're just sitting there with 01:41:28.720 --> 01:41:31.360 military knocking down a pretty cheap building. 01:41:31.360 --> 01:41:34.360 I feel like that's not really a good use of your military so these outposts will 01:41:34.360 --> 01:41:36.080 stay up for the time being. 01:41:36.080 --> 01:41:40.360 Singsing catches the villager, he catches the villager, he's gonna kill that villager and stop the outpost 01:41:40.360 --> 01:41:43.360 So good play from Singsing, getting some value from his military here, very nice 01:41:45.620 --> 01:41:51.960 Something that I've noticed playing against Singsing and just watching him play is that how 01:41:53.680 --> 01:41:57.280 Incredible he is at managing everything at once 01:41:57.280 --> 01:42:03.880 I remember he has put his scout next to my barracks much like he is doing this to the town center 01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:11.400 Yeah, and the moment I would attack him he would react immediately. Yes. His eyes is glued to his to this scout 01:42:11.400 --> 01:42:18.160 Now I have a question about this. Yeah, how does notifications come through for when your unit is attacked? 01:42:18.160 --> 01:42:23.160 Is it the moment you click on the unit or the moment it's getting hit the moment it's getting hit 01:42:23.160 --> 01:42:26.000 So the moment you hit the unit you get a notification 01:42:26.000 --> 01:42:28.640 But things thing is not waiting for the notification all the time 01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:32.840 He keeps tabbing back to his army to check on its well-being. That's his Dota 01:42:33.140 --> 01:42:38.920 Really good Dota micro because in Dota you need to you know keep an eye on your hero some other units 01:42:38.920 --> 01:42:41.400 They might have close to your hero keeping an eye on all of them 01:42:41.400 --> 01:42:47.920 It's very important and so syncing is using those skills from that game over in Age of Empire 2 and keeping a close eye on his military 01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:52.960 He has the best micro in the tournaments or at least the top three best micro in the tournament 01:42:52.960 --> 01:42:57.400 And he's definitely the most aware when it comes to where his military is and when they're gonna be threatened 01:42:57.400 --> 01:43:01.200 Love this wall from Waga by the way on the bottom and on the top for that record 01:43:01.200 --> 01:43:04.520 Gonna secure a lot of space at the back of his base really good for the Britons 01:43:04.520 --> 01:43:10.400 Britons wanna secure some space and not have to worry about those mongol raids in the late game hold on to siege workshops 01:43:11.120 --> 01:43:13.120 Waga, what is he planning? 01:43:13.120 --> 01:43:15.780 Are we going to see a train of siege reps? 01:43:16.360 --> 01:43:21.720 Yo, not the Britain strategy though. That's not like the Forte of Britain. So that's a bit surprising to me 01:43:21.720 --> 01:43:23.720 We'll see what comes of that 01:43:23.720 --> 01:43:28.720 Could it be perhaps Manganils to play defensive? 01:43:28.720 --> 01:43:32.720 It could be, like, Manganils are okay. It's a decent option against Mongols. 01:43:32.720 --> 01:43:35.720 The problem is, you see this Manganai here. A lot of people might not know this, 01:43:35.720 --> 01:43:38.720 but the Manganai has an attack bonus versus Siege. 01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:41.720 So most of the time, archery units are countered by Siege. 01:43:41.720 --> 01:43:44.720 But the Manganai, specifically him, the unique unit from the Mongols, 01:43:44.720 --> 01:43:46.720 is not countered by Siege as hard. 01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:50.720 Now, it's still, you know, if you land your shots at the Manganils, it's still pretty good. 01:43:50.720 --> 01:43:55.720 But, you know, not as good as versus other archery units. 01:43:55.720 --> 01:43:59.280 So I'm not sure if Waga knows this, by the way, so maybe he doesn't know this and he wants 01:43:59.280 --> 01:44:03.240 Manganos, but it is worth keeping this in mind as we view this game here. 01:44:03.240 --> 01:44:04.240 Wow. 01:44:04.240 --> 01:44:07.080 I have a question about the TC placements. 01:44:07.080 --> 01:44:12.080 Some of them are within the walls of these fortresses, some of them outside. 01:44:12.080 --> 01:44:17.300 And what's the benefit of having TC in compared to the outside? 01:44:17.300 --> 01:44:20.680 Because my thinking here, there are resources, for example, for Waga. 01:44:20.680 --> 01:44:28.680 outside of his base. Why not to put TC to secure the gold, let's say, to the left of his base, and have the farms within? 01:44:28.680 --> 01:44:35.680 Yeah. Why not bring TC's outside? 01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:40.680 Well, bringing TC outside is definitely risky, and I feel like Wagga's already getting punished here. 01:44:40.680 --> 01:44:45.680 The thing is, at the same time you also kind of want to do that to secure your gold, so it's a bit of a double-edged sword. 01:44:45.680 --> 01:44:49.280 sword. If you want to go out and take your resources at the same time, you're a bit more 01:44:49.280 --> 01:44:53.640 exposed. Some people like to do it, some players don't, but it's really a player preference 01:44:53.640 --> 01:44:57.840 on that one. Checking out what things he's going for is going to add some stables. It's 01:44:57.840 --> 01:45:01.720 going to also go for a siege workshop. One range, but it's most likely just for thumb 01:45:01.720 --> 01:45:05.560 rink and part of them tactics. Some upgrades for the Manga Dai. It's going to go for 01:45:05.560 --> 01:45:09.840 the second castle. I think this is going to be a two castle Manga Dai plus his Saur 01:45:09.840 --> 01:45:14.680 play with some siege ram. This could be a sick army composition for the Mongols. 01:45:14.680 --> 01:45:15.680 I am loving this. 01:45:15.680 --> 01:45:17.080 And really, it's already coming in. 01:45:17.080 --> 01:45:19.200 Waga is going for Rams! 01:45:19.200 --> 01:45:21.120 He's going to go for Mashed Rams and Pykeman. 01:45:21.120 --> 01:45:24.120 I don't know if that's going to do that much against the Mangadai, to be honest. 01:45:24.120 --> 01:45:28.000 Waga is going for a terrible strategy against the Mangadai. 01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:30.160 Any other unit could be good against the Mangadai. 01:45:30.160 --> 01:45:31.800 It's not really that good to invest into Rams. 01:45:31.800 --> 01:45:35.440 Let's see if he invests a lot, or if it's just a one or two Rams. 01:45:35.440 --> 01:45:37.080 The less Rams he makes, the better I think. 01:45:37.080 --> 01:45:41.160 The more he commits, the worse this is going to be for him. 01:45:41.160 --> 01:45:44.160 What it takes to produce rams? 01:45:45.160 --> 01:45:48.160 It takes wood and gold and they come out of the siege workshop. 01:45:50.160 --> 01:45:55.160 Right now he has 19 on gold and he is completely out of wood. 01:45:56.160 --> 01:46:02.160 I can feel that his farms might be in troubles because it takes wood to recede. 01:46:03.160 --> 01:46:10.160 And once you have idle villagers it takes so much mental effort to be able to fix this mistake. 01:46:11.160 --> 01:46:17.520 doesn't hit this problem but seeing how we still have more units in the production that 01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:21.160 costs wood it is very possible. 01:46:21.160 --> 01:46:25.200 Yeah I mean economy is set up okay here but we definitely need a lot more wood. 01:46:25.200 --> 01:46:28.360 We don't need that much food actually so what Waggon's going to run into is they 01:46:28.360 --> 01:46:29.840 don't have too much food. 01:46:29.840 --> 01:46:32.920 Most of his units are quite cheap and most of them even don't even cost any food. 01:46:32.920 --> 01:46:36.240 So that's a good good comment here from Ayukesan just kind of pointing out the 01:46:36.240 --> 01:46:42.180 economic problems that Wagon might face, low wood, gold is okay for now, but food rising 01:46:42.180 --> 01:46:45.380 with no purpose, hopefully he'll be able to fix that at some point, but he's going to 01:46:45.380 --> 01:46:48.100 go for halb ram with some longbows. 01:46:48.100 --> 01:46:53.460 Again, I want to stress, this is a great composition in general, but not against Mangadai 01:46:53.460 --> 01:46:54.460 specifically. 01:46:54.460 --> 01:46:58.740 And again, I don't know if Wagon knows that the Mangadai destroys the rams. 01:46:58.740 --> 01:47:00.140 We'll see how this plays out. 01:47:00.140 --> 01:47:03.860 Thumbmaid comes in, and honestly, will Sing Sing commit to Mangadai? 01:47:03.860 --> 01:47:04.860 We don't know. 01:47:04.860 --> 01:47:08.700 just go for something completely different so we're just speculating on what's to come 01:47:10.300 --> 01:47:16.780 that's an insane army production is going to be happening yeah yeah this is crazy crazy 01:47:16.780 --> 01:47:21.420 oh i like this the drill hold on sorry one second i use in the drill coming in is huge 01:47:21.420 --> 01:47:25.900 that's gonna give extra speed what is real what is real what is real it gives extra speed for the 01:47:25.900 --> 01:47:31.100 siege for the mongols it's a unique technology so you can get the ferrari rams the ferrari 01:47:31.100 --> 01:47:36.180 Honourers that's such a good tech against the Britons dude syncing is so ready 01:47:36.180 --> 01:47:40.980 So you know I actually you know how a C-Dram is really slow with that upgrade it comes at you very very fast 01:47:40.980 --> 01:47:44.780 It's a really good upgrade. No, is it like a taxi or is it a different thing? 01:47:45.140 --> 01:47:49.640 No, it's not like the taxi it makes the RAM move a same speed as the taxi basically 01:47:50.700 --> 01:47:57.920 Shit that's insane. Yeah. Now. Can we switch to see the control from syncing? 01:47:57.920 --> 01:48:03.440 He has army patrolling all of the exits it seems like all of the approaches yeah 01:48:03.440 --> 01:48:12.920 outposts up north, Sing Sing has incredible vision if Vaga tries to push Sing Sing is 01:48:12.920 --> 01:48:20.540 going to know look at that scout. Sing Sing sees everything there is going to be no 01:48:20.540 --> 01:48:24.880 element of surprise. Now what are those upgrades Sing Sing is getting? A horse, a 01:48:24.880 --> 01:48:26.880 The wall? What is that? 01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:28.880 It's so funny. 01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:30.880 Okay, so you have an Asar coming in. 01:48:30.880 --> 01:48:32.880 That's going to upgrade his light cavalry to Asar. 01:48:32.880 --> 01:48:33.880 A very good upgrade for the late game. 01:48:33.880 --> 01:48:34.880 The wall is siege engineer. 01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:37.880 It's going to give one extra range and extra damage for siege weapons. 01:48:37.880 --> 01:48:43.880 And the onager is going to be the best unit at killing mass archers in the game. 01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:45.880 He's going to go for Mongol SO. 01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:46.880 It's a very, very powerful unit. 01:48:46.880 --> 01:48:48.880 You see the Magnos here. You're pretty scared of these. 01:48:48.880 --> 01:48:49.880 It could be scary. 01:48:49.880 --> 01:48:51.880 This upgrades them to onagers. 01:48:51.880 --> 01:48:52.880 It's a very good upgrade. 01:48:52.880 --> 01:48:58.040 I want to see it happen. I've never seen that before. I didn't know they can get upgraded. This is fantastic 01:48:58.040 --> 01:49:00.280 I want to see it happen. This is fantastic 01:49:00.280 --> 01:49:04.780 I have to quickly talk about what wagas doing though in the meantime yo man's gonna give extra inch first longbowman 01:49:04.780 --> 01:49:10.920 This is elite longbowman ram how wagas got a great composition. It's a really good army to be honest 01:49:10.920 --> 01:49:14.740 This is gonna be cinema. It's gonna be a cinema late-game fights. There's not many mangadai 01:49:14.740 --> 01:49:18.280 Remember I talked about mangadai countering the ramps. Singsing's not going for many of them 01:49:18.280 --> 01:49:22.080 He's good for auditors auditors die to the longbow, but only if you have good micro 01:49:22.080 --> 01:49:26.960 Let's see the micro from Waga Waga's position. He sees the honor just coming in, but they're coming in quite fast 01:49:27.200 --> 01:49:32.180 He picks them off though beautiful from Waga. It's crazy. Waga is insane at controlling the army 01:49:32.180 --> 01:49:38.020 Yes, you can have 10 groups zero of them on control group and he controls everything now 01:49:38.020 --> 01:49:42.440 What I want to pay our attention to is the idle TC time bug 01:49:43.040 --> 01:49:46.200 Kara why do they not making any villagers anymore? 01:49:46.200 --> 01:49:48.880 Yeah, it's a good question when you get off to the late game 01:49:48.880 --> 01:49:54.360 You have the 200 pop you don't need to make more villagers. You can just stop at 120 and make room for military 01:49:54.360 --> 01:49:59.840 Remember 200 population is the limit so you don't need to continue making villages at all all times at this point in the game 01:50:04.520 --> 01:50:06.520 Yeah, go ahead 01:50:11.280 --> 01:50:12.400 This is fantastic 01:50:12.400 --> 01:50:17.600 This is great if you watch the base you can get pincered by the enemy army taking your time killing the production 01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:22.540 It's really good guys. Singsing has made a huge blunder going for the Orangers without any other army 01:50:22.540 --> 01:50:25.660 He's got a lot of Orangers who are coming in. It's gonna be a really really big fight 01:50:25.660 --> 01:50:30.440 Waga has to pick up the Orangers with the 12 range long moment, but you have to be careful not to get hit 01:50:30.440 --> 01:50:34.100 Waga don't get hit. He's taking some big shots from the Orangers, but he's microing them down 01:50:34.100 --> 01:50:38.780 Oh my goodness. Good micro from both players here. Waga's doing a great job picking up those Orangers 01:50:38.780 --> 01:50:42.660 The Rams are going down, but they're killing some of those buildings. Orangers at the back 01:50:42.660 --> 01:50:44.100 There's no counter to the Halberdeers 01:50:44.100 --> 01:50:48.500 What a crazy fight right now from Waga and Singsing the Dota Brothers are going at it! 01:50:50.260 --> 01:50:57.620 I am honestly impressed the fact that Waga is taking score lead by quite a margin just shows to 01:50:58.740 --> 01:51:03.860 just how much he prepared for this and he said that he's going to try a lot of things that he 01:51:03.860 --> 01:51:10.260 haven't tried before. Singsing saying that he wants to play in 40-minute games because 01:51:10.260 --> 01:51:16.260 that's where he is the strongest. Wagamaga has been always doing minute arms rush, but 01:51:16.260 --> 01:51:22.980 he perhaps was hiding his trump card. They're late-late-late-game genius. 01:51:22.980 --> 01:51:27.220 Those Brits are a fantastic late game, but by the way, Ayuksen, you were impressed by the 01:51:27.220 --> 01:51:31.540 Onagers. What if I told you they have another upgrade? It's called the Siege Onager, which 01:51:31.540 --> 01:51:36.660 is probably one of the best units in the entire game, by the way. The Siege Onager is 01:51:36.660 --> 01:51:41.620 one minute and five seconds away from completing. It's such a powerful unit. Let's see if it's going 01:51:41.620 --> 01:51:45.220 to be enough for Singsing to push this back. Wagga's pushing crazy though right now. 01:51:46.580 --> 01:51:48.580 Are you telling me they're going to start to fly or what? 01:51:49.860 --> 01:51:53.460 They're one step away from that. They're very fast. They're still on the ground, 01:51:53.460 --> 01:51:57.380 not flying yet, but they do massive, massive damage. One ram still in the field. 01:51:57.380 --> 01:51:59.300 It's going to go for the Monastery. There's actually a really sensitive 01:51:59.300 --> 01:52:03.780 Monastery. There's five relics in here. That ram is 3 HP. Just blow on it. Just blow 01:52:03.780 --> 01:52:06.280 It's three HP instead of kill the Monastery with five relics! 01:52:06.280 --> 01:52:08.780 You imagine we would have five monks right there? 01:52:08.780 --> 01:52:10.280 That would have been insane! 01:52:10.280 --> 01:52:14.780 The gold advantage that the Sincsins was building up would be gone in seconds! 01:52:14.780 --> 01:52:16.280 In the hands of Wagamaga. 01:52:16.280 --> 01:52:16.780 Yeah. 01:52:16.780 --> 01:52:18.280 I am impressed. 01:52:18.280 --> 01:52:21.280 We have double castle forward build coming up brother! 01:52:21.280 --> 01:52:22.280 Oh my goodness! 01:52:22.280 --> 01:52:23.280 What the hell is this? 01:52:23.280 --> 01:52:24.280 Wagas taking the map! 01:52:24.280 --> 01:52:25.780 But Siege Otter just in! 01:52:25.780 --> 01:52:28.780 Siege Otter just really really strong but the relics are down! 01:52:28.780 --> 01:52:30.280 What a crazy game one! 01:52:30.280 --> 01:52:32.280 In our first Best of Five series in the King's Gauntlet, 01:52:32.280 --> 01:52:36.900 The monitor stays up but the relics are ungarious and syncing has to get those relics back in 01:52:36.900 --> 01:52:41.220 We talked about that lake of advantage, but take a look at this huge honorger shots are so freaking good 01:52:41.220 --> 01:52:44.060 Cast us forward though, can't fight those with honorgers 01:52:44.860 --> 01:52:47.740 Bro, why this siege is so bugged? Hello? 01:52:48.580 --> 01:52:50.580 It's like gold besides 01:52:51.080 --> 01:52:56.640 Now what about the range? You told me that the Brings has a logo man 01:52:56.640 --> 01:52:59.640 How is the range compared to this insane siege? 01:52:59.640 --> 01:53:06.640 Excellent question. I actually love having you here, Aiyuki-san, because you're asking the right questions for the people that might not know everything there is to know about Age of Empires. 01:53:06.640 --> 01:53:13.340 Fantastic question. 12 range for Elite Longbowmen. 12 range is a lot. That's more than a castle. Castle has 11 range with all upgrades. 01:53:13.340 --> 01:53:19.440 Siege Onager has 9 range. So it's 12 to 9, which means Longbow should stay out of range. 01:53:19.440 --> 01:53:26.140 But if you're not watching, you could get hit, and the Habadiers, oh my goodness, the Habadiers are getting kicked apart. 01:53:26.140 --> 01:53:33.420 So I remember you have been talking about having one trash unit and then your main unit 01:53:33.420 --> 01:53:34.420 Yeah 01:53:34.420 --> 01:53:41.580 So, seeing how there is a lot of longbowmen, what did you see that shit? 01:53:41.580 --> 01:53:50.140 He booed his army in the castle and asked him to make a little shot, what the hell? 01:53:50.140 --> 01:53:54.140 That was a great move. 01:53:54.140 --> 01:53:58.860 That was a great move from Waga indeed. 01:53:58.860 --> 01:54:03.180 It's kind of a common one so I didn't react but Ayuki's never seen it before so I love 01:54:03.180 --> 01:54:05.340 the reaction there. 01:54:05.340 --> 01:54:07.500 Don't kill me Ayuki, that's fantastic. 01:54:07.500 --> 01:54:13.380 That was a great play from Mr. Waga. 01:54:13.380 --> 01:54:14.380 Waga is pushing in. 01:54:14.380 --> 01:54:16.340 I love the castles with the trebuchets. 01:54:16.340 --> 01:54:19.220 Sink Sink dude, he's in trouble 140 pop only. 01:54:19.220 --> 01:54:23.260 He's got the crazy siege but the relics were a big part of the strategy and he can't get 01:54:23.260 --> 01:54:25.140 the relics back in the modest area. 01:54:25.140 --> 01:54:30.100 I can't believe I'm saying this but the Mongol late game is about to get beat by the Britsons 01:54:30.100 --> 01:54:33.460 despite having siege honorsers, wow. 01:54:33.460 --> 01:54:38.900 I want to point out one very important number, something that we haven't looked at yet. 01:54:38.900 --> 01:54:45.860 Guys, number of armies, same thing is holding the eight men, verse 65 from Vhaga. 01:54:45.860 --> 01:54:46.860 Yep, crazy. 01:54:46.860 --> 01:54:52.860 This might be the first game to go towards Waga. 01:54:52.860 --> 01:54:54.860 I cannot deliver it. 01:54:54.860 --> 01:54:55.860 It's still close, right? 01:54:55.860 --> 01:54:57.860 Like, Sing Sing just took out a castle. 01:54:57.860 --> 01:55:01.860 He's holding with four castles from Sing Sing, and Waga is selling. 01:55:01.860 --> 01:55:03.860 Waga with the 3-2-2. 01:55:03.860 --> 01:55:05.860 Oh my goodness, he's under the castles. 01:55:05.860 --> 01:55:06.860 You gotta back up. 01:55:06.860 --> 01:55:08.860 This is terrible. 01:55:08.860 --> 01:55:09.860 Oh my goodness. 01:55:09.860 --> 01:55:10.860 He's lost a lot. 01:55:10.860 --> 01:55:12.860 He's lost a lot. 01:55:12.860 --> 01:55:16.700 something that I have learned from probably the best player in the game 01:55:16.700 --> 01:55:22.420 T90 official he told me to go behind the enemy base now if we switch 01:55:22.420 --> 01:55:26.100 attention from this massive fortification here yeah the back of 01:55:26.100 --> 01:55:31.940 the sink sink space bringing couple of ramps it's open it's oh it's welcome 01:55:31.940 --> 01:55:37.900 not just it's open you just walk in so instead of trying to break through this 01:55:37.900 --> 01:55:45.460 insane four castles just trying to get a plank maybe switch focus to really 01:55:45.460 --> 01:55:49.380 destroy those military buildings do you think that would be a good idea 01:55:49.380 --> 01:55:53.500 honestly maybe because there's four castles here I don't see how you fight 01:55:53.500 --> 01:55:56.580 this it you could set up trebuchets but every time he sets up the trebs he has 01:55:56.580 --> 01:55:59.220 to watch out for the siege honor just let's give me a huge shot oh my 01:55:59.220 --> 01:56:03.420 goodness half the armor goes down another shot goes in trebuchet goes 01:56:03.420 --> 01:56:14.300 down. Are those siege shooting fire? Yes, because of chemistry. This game is so complicated. 01:56:14.300 --> 01:56:25.620 I never done chemistry. That's impressive. Yeah, getting chemistry is impressive. That 01:56:25.620 --> 01:56:31.380 is a good point, Aikson. Oh, you're absolutely gold, my brother. Blast furnace coming in 01:56:31.380 --> 01:56:35.100 equally as impressive have you done this upgrade I use it blast furnace what is it 01:56:35.100 --> 01:56:43.620 what is it no idea no idea no they added it 25 years ago pretty recently of course 01:56:43.620 --> 01:56:50.020 it gives plus two attack for your melee units both cavalry and infantry and that's 01:56:50.020 --> 01:56:53.180 gonna be really good for the Hissar here so take a look at syncing using the 01:56:53.180 --> 01:56:58.860 Hissar to control the map but Wagga continues to push forward I'm gonna 01:56:58.860 --> 01:57:03.660 I should have lowered the sound a little bit. This is maybe not the right time though. Not the right time, Hera. Come on now. 01:57:03.660 --> 01:57:07.260 Come on now. Gotta focus up. A lot of army on the field. 01:57:07.260 --> 01:57:11.660 I cannot imagine how stressful it is for both of the players. 01:57:11.660 --> 01:57:16.780 Having to manage this economy and such a big army, the moment you look away, 01:57:16.780 --> 01:57:21.100 Zink Zink is going to nuke you with the fire. It's insane. 01:57:21.100 --> 01:57:27.180 But having this advantage of looking from above, I would really love Vagamangas 01:57:27.180 --> 01:57:33.900 to get a little bit of army production up front and go for that flank. 01:57:33.900 --> 01:57:38.940 Maybe just one, two ramps and make them automatically kill all the stables. 01:57:39.740 --> 01:57:43.100 But still, massive lead by Waga Waga. 01:57:43.100 --> 01:57:45.340 Bro, look at this, there's six castles from Singsing. 01:57:45.340 --> 01:57:47.820 There's six castles, but you see a lead from Waga. 01:57:47.820 --> 01:57:51.980 He's got a 50 population lead, but the thing is Singsing's got the score lead. 01:57:51.980 --> 01:57:55.100 Remember, if this goes to an hour and 30 minutes, we still got some time. 01:57:55.100 --> 01:57:58.380 45 minutes to go but this goes to an hour and 30 minutes the guy with the 01:57:58.380 --> 01:58:01.900 squad lead wins and since he's marching with a lot of these honorors dude if 01:58:01.900 --> 01:58:07.340 Wagga missteps he will lose all of his army. Wagga's walking towards them, holy. 01:58:07.340 --> 01:58:11.100 Big army though, big army as you're saying I used to this a huge army from 01:58:11.100 --> 01:58:14.220 Wagga mama. We're trying to pick back up the relics but he's not able to do so. 01:58:14.220 --> 01:58:18.940 It's a lot more pop from Wagga what it seems like planning here. 01:58:18.940 --> 01:58:26.100 Oh man seeing these horses coming in from the flank is so annoying. 01:58:26.100 --> 01:58:30.660 Do I just call Vagamaga right now and tell him, make some seizures, destroy this building. 01:58:30.660 --> 01:58:32.460 What are you doing dude? 01:58:32.460 --> 01:58:35.100 Well it's, oh my goodness. 01:58:35.100 --> 01:58:36.100 No way. 01:58:36.100 --> 01:58:37.100 Well he missed, he missed, he missed, he missed. 01:58:37.100 --> 01:58:39.940 How did Vagamaga look at his own army? 01:58:39.940 --> 01:58:44.540 Oh my goodness we're so close to getting some insane shots. 01:58:44.540 --> 01:58:46.660 But Vagamaga is so good with the micro. 01:58:46.660 --> 01:58:50.860 I actually did kill his own army, but the Hussars are pretty tanky, so they don't die in one shot, actually. 01:58:50.860 --> 01:58:52.360 They take two or three shots to kill. 01:58:53.160 --> 01:58:54.160 Oh my god. 01:58:54.860 --> 01:58:55.860 Crazy. 01:58:56.160 --> 01:58:57.860 I'm still on the edge of my seat right now. 01:58:59.060 --> 01:59:00.760 The castle from Magus is gonna go down. 01:59:01.660 --> 01:59:04.660 Next to the right side of the castle is, um, 01:59:04.660 --> 01:59:06.660 flattening one castle down. 01:59:06.660 --> 01:59:07.660 Yeah, one castle down. 01:59:07.660 --> 01:59:09.860 I'm sure alone, I'm protected for so long. 01:59:11.160 --> 01:59:15.860 It does go down, but it goes down a hero, and a lot of traps from Singsling will also go down. 01:59:15.860 --> 01:59:19.300 The trade in gold and stone but honestly Wagas taking better trades 01:59:19.300 --> 01:59:23.580 without a big shot, Singsing is actually losing the fights 01:59:23.580 --> 01:59:26.460 he does have a leap MagiDai now though one of the best units in the game 01:59:26.460 --> 01:59:31.140 missing some armor though no Parthen tactics big shot though with the ESO 01:59:31.140 --> 01:59:35.580 Something that I would like to leave our attention to 01:59:35.580 --> 01:59:39.700 is resources count. Having practiced lots and lots of games 01:59:39.700 --> 01:59:44.260 Singsing is exceptional at making sure his resources are well spent 01:59:44.260 --> 01:59:50.900 look at this guys it's almost me it's not there if having lots of resources means floating 01:59:50.900 --> 01:59:59.140 sink sink is at the bottom of the ocean he's doing so good having 6.5 thousand food is of 01:59:59.140 --> 02:00:05.460 course incredible uh because you can use this uh resources to sell them using market and get 02:00:05.460 --> 02:00:13.700 stone for the castles, gold for the army, but I don't know how is it humanly possible to be able 02:00:13.700 --> 02:00:20.580 to control so many things at once and still be able to play this game. Yeah, absolutely. 02:00:21.460 --> 02:00:25.540 Singsing, low on gold though, I will mention, he needs to get those relics back in. He's 02:00:25.540 --> 02:00:30.180 trying to buy time. He snags the trebuchet, goes back. This game has never been closer, scores 02:00:30.180 --> 02:00:34.420 neck and neck. Wagga grabs a little bit of extra gold on the bottom, by the way. He's trying 02:00:34.420 --> 02:00:39.420 trying to snag some wood from the top, so he's trying to play the expansion, but again, no siege from Waga. 02:00:39.420 --> 02:00:45.420 He's moving around a little bit more, since... sorry, you wanted to see this, a little bit of movement from Waga, 02:00:45.420 --> 02:00:49.420 since he's trying to get back to the relics, but so far, no siege from either player. 02:00:51.420 --> 02:00:58.420 What resource is needed for Singsing to not only stay in the game, but to perhaps bring the fight to the enemy? 02:00:58.420 --> 02:01:03.420 Because it seems like all of the resources inside his base is depleted. 02:01:03.420 --> 02:01:05.420 What does he need to keep making army? 02:01:05.420 --> 02:01:07.420 In my opinion, he needs to get these two relics back in. 02:01:07.420 --> 02:01:10.420 The five relics were very important for gold production 02:01:10.420 --> 02:01:13.420 because without gold, he can't make Manga Dai, he can't make Sea Donnerger. 02:01:13.420 --> 02:01:15.420 He only has Hissar. 02:01:15.420 --> 02:01:18.420 So you need a lot of gold production or the relics to get those gold units 02:01:18.420 --> 02:01:20.420 and then you need the Hissar Spam. 02:01:20.420 --> 02:01:23.420 Constant Hissar Spam, maybe he needs even more villagers. 02:01:23.420 --> 02:01:25.420 Something like that. 02:01:26.420 --> 02:01:31.420 So being very low on gold means that he cannot make army. 02:01:31.420 --> 02:01:38.420 He can't make his power units. He can only make the Hissara, which are okay, but they're not gonna do that much on their own, is what I would say. 02:01:38.420 --> 02:01:40.420 Okay, got it, got it. 02:01:40.420 --> 02:01:49.420 While Vagamaga has so much resources selling his stuff right now, he can put another castle right there next to this monastery, no? 02:01:49.420 --> 02:01:53.420 Yeah, he could if he wanted to, but he's grabbing the hill instead, which is arguably a better choice. 02:01:53.420 --> 02:01:56.420 He's using the Lombos to constantly stack the monks, by the way. 02:01:56.420 --> 02:01:58.420 He's done this consistently throughout the game. 02:01:58.420 --> 02:02:02.340 We grab one more relic there's one more still to grab good micro from syncing though 02:02:02.340 --> 02:02:05.860 He's gonna go out of his gate with the mega that trying to mic with him down. You don't want to lose these guys 02:02:05.860 --> 02:02:07.860 You have to keep moving 02:02:11.340 --> 02:02:13.340 When the arches from 02:02:14.060 --> 02:02:17.660 Vaga shoots do they hit all the time? No 02:02:19.420 --> 02:02:23.220 So they have ballistics so if syncing doesn't micro he will always get hit 02:02:23.220 --> 02:02:25.860 But syncing is micro so good that he can dodge ballistics 02:02:25.860 --> 02:02:29.100 That's an advanced topic that we don't have to worry about too much right now 02:02:29.100 --> 02:02:32.460 We just know that not every arrow is hitting here. Not every arrow is hitting 02:02:33.100 --> 02:02:35.340 Are you telling me an army of 12? 02:02:36.500 --> 02:02:40.220 Managed to shift the tights in this situation right now 02:02:40.220 --> 02:02:43.220 Yeah, with good micro that he's showing with the man with the mankind 02:02:43.220 --> 02:02:46.100 It's a very powerful unit. He's able to kind of turn the tide a little bit 02:02:46.100 --> 02:02:50.420 You know, he hasn't killed all the wagons army wagons got fantastic production from the home 02:02:50.420 --> 02:02:55.160 But he is kind of buying himself some time taking some decent trades 02:02:55.160 --> 02:03:00.620 The problem is though, Sing Sing is actually very low on goals and Wagah has a 200 population army right now 02:03:03.560 --> 02:03:05.560 Excuse me? 02:03:05.940 --> 02:03:08.340 200 population army, that's 77! 02:03:09.160 --> 02:03:12.160 No, 200 pop and a big army basically. 02:03:12.160 --> 02:03:13.160 Okay, got it. 02:03:13.160 --> 02:03:14.660 Yeah, sorry. 02:03:14.660 --> 02:03:15.660 Alright, alright, alright. 02:03:15.660 --> 02:03:17.660 The Linger gets a little confusing I guess. 02:03:20.420 --> 02:03:26.420 Alright, a lot of longboats and halbs on the field, and we got full upgrades from Wagga 02:03:26.420 --> 02:03:27.420 by the way. 02:03:27.420 --> 02:03:30.180 Sing Sing's actually still missing parts and tactics on his Manga Dive. 02:03:30.180 --> 02:03:33.580 He did pick up something I caught that earlier, but he just doesn't know how to fight this. 02:03:33.580 --> 02:03:36.260 I want to see him go to Siege Onager again, honestly. 02:03:36.260 --> 02:03:39.260 I think the only way he holds this is if you get some lucky shots on the big massive 02:03:39.260 --> 02:03:40.260 units. 02:03:40.260 --> 02:03:41.260 Without that, it's very tough. 02:03:41.260 --> 02:03:42.260 But you can! 02:03:42.260 --> 02:03:43.260 There is no gold! 02:03:43.260 --> 02:03:44.260 You cannot! 02:03:44.260 --> 02:03:45.260 Well, he can sell a bit. 02:03:45.260 --> 02:03:46.260 He can make a few. 02:03:46.260 --> 02:03:47.260 He's got the relics back in. 02:03:47.260 --> 02:03:48.260 So he's got a small chance. 02:03:48.260 --> 02:03:52.440 It's gonna try to raid with some hessars. That's a pretty good idea to buy some time. Actually, I like that 02:03:53.000 --> 02:03:56.120 I think that's open up time. I'm not sure. Yep 02:03:56.680 --> 02:03:58.680 Good raids. So I 02:03:59.040 --> 02:04:01.720 Just want to point out that this detail of 02:04:02.400 --> 02:04:04.960 Sink Sink coming in with his army 02:04:05.560 --> 02:04:07.560 big while you 02:04:08.320 --> 02:04:14.560 Focus your attention on attacking the enemy. It is possible that Vaga might not see it or 02:04:14.560 --> 02:04:19.920 or have to put a lot of efforts into making sure those guys are not going to kill his economy. 02:04:19.920 --> 02:04:20.760 Yeah, please. 02:04:20.760 --> 02:04:22.320 And having units... 02:04:22.320 --> 02:04:24.220 Switch back! Switch back! 02:04:24.220 --> 02:04:25.920 Unit might open the gate! 02:04:26.320 --> 02:04:27.820 Right, uh... 02:04:27.820 --> 02:04:29.220 Oh my god! 02:04:29.220 --> 02:04:30.920 I think it was blocked! 02:04:30.920 --> 02:04:34.220 But it's not that big of a deal though, because it's just Five Hussars, right? 02:04:34.220 --> 02:04:38.060 Like, even if he comes in with Five Hussars, there's a lot of defense like towers, town centers and whatnot. 02:04:38.060 --> 02:04:41.720 So, even if he would get in with this raid, it's not the end of the world actually. 02:04:41.720 --> 02:04:43.520 I'm much more interested in what's going on here, 02:04:43.520 --> 02:04:48.160 because there's like a hundred army from WAGA on the field gear. This is way more impactful in my opinion. 02:04:50.160 --> 02:04:53.760 And exactly what I was mentioning previously, attacking from the side. 02:04:53.760 --> 02:05:00.720 Now we cannot really break in very quickly, so we'd like to see a siege workshop here, a couple of rams. 02:05:00.720 --> 02:05:05.360 Yeah, and he did invest into the rams. Like a couple rams here, we talked about this earlier. 02:05:05.360 --> 02:05:08.480 I used to want to see a couple rams break the houses, break the wall, 02:05:08.480 --> 02:05:11.920 so opening up the base, don't try to play into these five castles. Look at these five castles, 02:05:11.920 --> 02:05:18.200 We did kill one but still play that macro game go from the sides. That's way better approach 02:05:18.200 --> 02:05:23.320 What a fantastic game one though, but waga 200 population sinks in 120. I feel like he's struggling 02:05:23.320 --> 02:05:28.280 I use him. Do you want to see a kink sniping sinks thing before he loses the game if you were to lose it? 02:05:29.280 --> 02:05:33.720 Brother, I have to say having played this ready side myself. Yeah 02:05:34.320 --> 02:05:39.560 You coming into the battle knowing about this possibility, but as you start to play 02:05:39.560 --> 02:05:56.560 personally I forgot about it. And if Sing Sing is keeping it at the back of his mind there is a chance no matter your situation there is always a chance and I would love that. I would love that. That would be cinema. 02:05:56.560 --> 02:06:01.200 Yeah, I agree with you and I think we're getting about it is something that could happen though 02:06:01.200 --> 02:06:05.160 Singsings obviously focused on the micro the macro the defensive the offensive 02:06:05.160 --> 02:06:08.880 But just thinking about a king snipe when you feel like you've lost the game is the way to go 02:06:09.240 --> 02:06:13.640 Wagga with a hundred and fifty military. This is the Britain's ball of death 02:06:13.640 --> 02:06:19.160 How about your elite long woman and trebuchets and now there's no stopping it before we had the gold for the heavy siege 02:06:19.160 --> 02:06:23.640 Now we don't he cannot fight the Singsing has to find a way around the castle goes down 02:06:23.640 --> 02:06:26.980 I think it has to be a king snipe. It has to be a king snipe 02:06:27.680 --> 02:06:30.120 There is no other way, but does he has the means? 02:06:31.080 --> 02:06:36.160 To do it very quickly. What do you think? Looking at his army, can he do it swiftly? 02:06:36.160 --> 02:06:38.840 Like in 60 seconds. I'll explain how you do it 02:06:38.840 --> 02:06:42.040 So you got the army the mangidai will step the king you just need seeds 02:06:42.040 --> 02:06:45.600 You have the top castle bring five trebuchets you come here you knock the gate 02:06:45.600 --> 02:06:48.520 You knock the castle and then you go into the mangidai. It could be done 02:06:48.560 --> 02:06:50.560 It could be done 02:06:50.560 --> 02:06:53.400 You're gonna be looking forward, right? 02:06:53.400 --> 02:06:54.400 Yep. 02:06:54.400 --> 02:06:58.960 Wagga though so far, unstoppable on this hill. 02:06:58.960 --> 02:07:02.200 Like there's no fighting this, he just doesn't have the resources, all the castles will go 02:07:02.200 --> 02:07:03.200 down. 02:07:03.200 --> 02:07:05.440 If Singsing wants to try king step, he's gotta go now. 02:07:05.440 --> 02:07:08.320 He might try to fight the army head on though, he's switching the skirmishers. 02:07:08.320 --> 02:07:12.560 He might think this game is closer than it is, but Wagga is so far ahead right now. 02:07:12.560 --> 02:07:14.040 It's so far ahead for Wagga. 02:07:14.040 --> 02:07:20.040 If we look back at that gate, it's being raided again on Wagamaga's base. 02:07:20.040 --> 02:07:25.040 So the walls behind it? That tower is holding the Fort as well, which is quite nice. 02:07:25.040 --> 02:07:33.040 Alright, I have a question about the hill. Wagamaga has trebuchets on the hill. Does it impact the range of trebuchets? 02:07:33.040 --> 02:07:40.040 Yes, and not the range of the damage, excuse me. Not the range, but it does more damage when you're on top of the hill, which is quite significant as well. 02:07:40.040 --> 02:07:47.040 Yeah, I know that for everyone who doesn't guys if you are on the hill and enemy under the hill 02:07:47.240 --> 02:07:54.700 You double the damage, sorry, 25% more damage and you take 25% less 02:07:54.700 --> 02:07:58.360 That means 50% advantage over the enemy 02:07:58.360 --> 02:08:05.800 So putting a castle on the top of the hill is something that you always want to make sure you do if there is a chance 02:08:05.800 --> 02:08:13.420 Because if enemy tries to Trebuchets, it takes 25% longer because of these heal-advented ones. 02:08:13.420 --> 02:08:21.220 And I've learned about it before, the longbowmen of Greatness have a higher range than the Castle. 02:08:21.220 --> 02:08:29.920 So Vaka doesn't even need Trebuchets for that. He can just send a hundred longbowmen and take down the Castle. Is that true? 02:08:29.920 --> 02:08:33.920 Yeah, absolutely. That's what my brother did to me like 20 years ago when we used to play together. 02:08:33.920 --> 02:08:39.340 Just a hundred long moment and just killing all my castles. I had nothing to counter it and log it through in the same 02:08:39.340 --> 02:08:41.800 The same thing he had the law woman just taken out the castles 02:08:41.800 --> 02:08:46.880 I think it's time for king snipe syncing is completely dead. He's got no options to win this game from what I'm seeing 02:08:46.880 --> 02:08:51.460 He's got 25 minutes left until the timer. I mean, maybe he can play a score victory 02:08:51.460 --> 02:08:55.740 You could win on score. He's massing a lot of skirmishers now. Let's see what you can do 02:08:55.740 --> 02:08:57.740 Maybe the skirmisher is the right call 02:08:57.740 --> 02:09:03.660 How can you, how can you infant the score? If that's the play? We have still 26 minutes 02:09:03.660 --> 02:09:08.980 to go and this army from Vladian, it's not going to stop. So if you were in this position 02:09:08.980 --> 02:09:12.140 and the score is your only option, what would you do? 02:09:12.140 --> 02:09:14.980 So parts and taxes coming in for the Manga Dye, it's going to be fully upgraded Manga 02:09:14.980 --> 02:09:18.100 Dye now. To upgrade your score, to boost your score, you want to take good trades, 02:09:18.100 --> 02:09:21.700 you want to fight well, kill military units, you want to score, you want to make buildings 02:09:21.700 --> 02:09:25.460 and get technologies. That's the way to get score. But right now, we're still 02:09:25.460 --> 02:09:28.500 very far from that like you have to defend yourself because if you just lose in 02:09:28.500 --> 02:09:32.140 25 minutes if you lose your entire base your score is gonna be terrible so 02:09:32.140 --> 02:09:36.340 Singsing has to defend this or he has to go for king snap I think the score bit 02:09:36.340 --> 02:09:39.620 three is very far from right now it's worth thinking about but you need to 02:09:39.620 --> 02:09:43.260 defend first Shriver Shades on the field this is almost a last castle there's 02:09:43.260 --> 02:09:48.380 two castles left here maybe that go in and this could be a big fight I think 02:09:48.380 --> 02:09:51.780 this is pretty much over for Singsing looking at the dynamic of this but 02:09:51.780 --> 02:10:01.740 It hasn't been shifting for the last half hour. Yeah now. What about this the most balanced thing in the game to reason? 02:10:02.180 --> 02:10:04.540 Has a syncing got in it yet? 02:10:05.020 --> 02:10:08.980 No, that's you know where the king is. He doesn't know where the king is 02:10:08.980 --> 02:10:13.160 I think he can imagine it's in the castle and he sees the flag doesn't know for sure though 02:10:13.500 --> 02:10:15.700 But he couldn't even go for it to be fair 02:10:15.700 --> 02:10:23.100 But I agree with you, I think there's no fighting this, right? There's no fighting this army. 02:10:23.100 --> 02:10:29.460 The same thing did this couple of times. He did it to me, he did it yesterday, I believe, 02:10:29.460 --> 02:10:35.780 to spot the king. So he knows. But maybe he's under such immense pressure at the moment, 02:10:35.780 --> 02:10:42.700 it's not in his mind. He's trying to survive, he's trying to float and not thinking about 02:10:42.700 --> 02:10:47.260 attacking while he tried the skirmishes here and there snipes and villagers 02:10:48.220 --> 02:10:53.660 perhaps he's just overwhelmed yeah waga so impressive from waga by the way it's not easy 02:10:53.660 --> 02:10:57.820 to control this much military but she's doing such a good job of it and he's playing against the guy 02:10:57.820 --> 02:11:02.620 who's in theory 200 elo higher than him right now but of course waga's peak was also 1600 02:11:02.620 --> 02:11:05.660 i think since they might try the king snipe the mega that i'm moving forward you have one 02:11:05.660 --> 02:11:09.580 castle up here you could go for it but you have to go for it right now we're talking 02:11:09.580 --> 02:11:13.540 So much about this because without a king snipe, I just don't see a good way to win this game 02:11:13.540 --> 02:11:18.940 The army from Wagga are moving in in fact sinks in skiing might get snipe. It's only in the tower. Oh 02:11:19.780 --> 02:11:22.340 It moved I totally miss this 02:11:23.220 --> 02:11:25.380 during this time nice I 02:11:25.940 --> 02:11:27.940 Have to say this 02:11:28.060 --> 02:11:34.620 Forman is so fun even someone like me would win against the best player 02:11:35.300 --> 02:11:36.820 guys 02:11:36.820 --> 02:11:41.860 Yeah, I can bet a house I win against Hera. Oh, oh, sorry. Sorry. There is a chance 02:11:41.940 --> 02:11:45.940 There is a chance I can do it and it makes it so much fun 02:11:47.340 --> 02:11:49.340 Like there is always a chance 02:11:49.900 --> 02:11:54.960 Sleep chance that you can you can give your shot. I you said I'm gonna keep it 02:11:54.960 --> 02:12:00.700 I'm gonna give it a buck 50 with you, bro. Even on Redis side. I don't think there's a chance you're beating me 02:12:00.700 --> 02:12:05.040 But I like the energy and I like the enthusiasm and I like that you're I 02:12:05.040 --> 02:12:10.200 I like that you're dreaming high. I think that's pretty cool. I think that's pretty cool. Mr. Ieuchsen 02:12:11.840 --> 02:12:18.320 Yeah, I haven't shown my trump cards yet. Okay. I was the dominated early. I sound back anyway 02:12:19.680 --> 02:12:26.220 And then you have a lot more to offer but you could have offering things sing sing is offering nothing to defend his army 02:12:27.720 --> 02:12:29.400 Sing sing wait 02:12:29.400 --> 02:12:32.280 Sing sing only there's involuntary. Okay, all right 02:12:32.280 --> 02:12:37.200 He's went to the safety of his town center, but the relics are about to ungeverse in his well here 02:12:37.200 --> 02:12:42.400 Waka is just sitting just menacingly in Sing Sing Space. This is fantastic 02:12:42.400 --> 02:12:47.000 I love just how aggressive he's been but dude Sing Sing is picking up a lot of reinforcements 02:12:47.000 --> 02:12:53.080 Sing Sing's got a lot of skirmishers. Can he hold this? This is holdable maybe. He said look for the fight. A lot of Sing Sing skirm 02:12:53.800 --> 02:12:58.920 I'm looking at the resources and that Sing Sing has been building up food and gold 02:12:58.920 --> 02:13:00.920 Is there anything he can use this for? 02:13:00.920 --> 02:13:04.920 Yeah, like gold, magi die and food in his arse for sure. 02:13:04.920 --> 02:13:06.920 Good resources. 02:13:06.920 --> 02:13:08.920 Maybe he hasn't given up yet. 02:13:08.920 --> 02:13:10.920 He's still trying so far. 02:13:10.920 --> 02:13:12.920 He's doing a good job picking up the reinforcements 02:13:12.920 --> 02:13:14.920 to how good they aren't really doing much as they come in. 02:13:14.920 --> 02:13:16.920 But the skirmishers are having such a hard time closing the gap. 02:13:16.920 --> 02:13:18.920 They're just dying before they can even fight. 02:13:18.920 --> 02:13:20.920 They've killed a few lombos. 02:13:20.920 --> 02:13:22.920 But these lombos, how many kills? 02:13:22.920 --> 02:13:24.920 These lombos have 180 kills. 02:13:24.920 --> 02:13:26.920 This group of 37 lomboman 02:13:26.920 --> 02:13:35.900 have killed 185 units and counting and what happened wait the king the king what 02:13:35.900 --> 02:13:45.080 happened no the king got sniped the king got snipe I missed it oh my god it was 02:13:45.080 --> 02:13:50.200 auto-attacked hold on it's washed his back it's in the town center oh my god I 02:13:50.200 --> 02:13:57.240 missed that that's crazy we need to look at the tribus yes I think it was 02:13:57.240 --> 02:14:01.960 targeted I think it was targeted bro it's gonna come out right now it's out 02:14:01.960 --> 02:14:07.180 it's out it's out and he sniped it oh my goodness why does life sink sinks king 02:14:07.180 --> 02:14:12.120 Gigi in the chat won't play to Wagga I had completely forgotten about that 02:14:12.120 --> 02:14:15.320 we're just talking about the fight talking about the skirmishers but the 02:14:15.320 --> 02:14:19.760 king is all that matters and Wagas the one with the king snipe cinema 02:14:19.760 --> 02:14:24.760 cinema game the two daughter players are absolutely delivering and I have to say 02:14:24.760 --> 02:14:31.120 this series is looking very very very nice. Waga takes game one this is a do or die 02:14:31.120 --> 02:14:37.200 a best of five winner goes through loser is out this is fantastic. 02:14:37.200 --> 02:14:40.120 How do you enjoy that first game my friend? 02:14:40.120 --> 02:14:48.600 Well first of all I think from now on we address Waga as Waga. I did not see this 02:14:48.600 --> 02:14:57.560 coming. He is my favorite. I know this thing is stronger, but seeing him pull this off makes 02:14:57.560 --> 02:15:04.080 me so happy. It's incredible. I love that. I didn't think he would do it. W aga. But 02:15:04.080 --> 02:15:10.640 of course, you know, it's still only one game. It's a best of five. So it's just one 02:15:10.640 --> 02:15:16.960 game, but I think it's really good that we have a player that's able to punch above 02:15:16.960 --> 02:15:18.080 I love his way a little bit here. 02:15:18.080 --> 02:15:20.600 I love his halo and take out a game from Singsing. 02:15:20.600 --> 02:15:23.040 But again, it's gonna be Singsing's home back next. 02:15:23.040 --> 02:15:24.560 I expect him to go for a Raybex. 02:15:24.560 --> 02:15:25.760 He hates Arena. 02:15:25.760 --> 02:15:26.760 We'll see what he does go for. 02:15:26.760 --> 02:15:28.600 But I just wanna quickly take a moment here 02:15:28.600 --> 02:15:31.040 to thank some of our viewers and subscriber gifters. 02:15:31.040 --> 02:15:33.360 Tyloo gifted 20 subscribers to the channel 02:15:33.360 --> 02:15:36.080 and all these Android gifted five subs to the channel. 02:15:36.080 --> 02:15:37.920 We had anonymous with 10 gifted earlier 02:15:37.920 --> 02:15:40.280 and a bunch of prime subs and followers. 02:15:40.280 --> 02:15:41.120 Welcome everyone. 02:15:41.120 --> 02:15:44.280 Thank you for all these subs gifted and follows. 02:15:44.280 --> 02:15:46.520 Hopefully you guys are enjoying the stream so far. 02:15:46.520 --> 02:15:48.120 It's been a great day three, 02:15:48.120 --> 02:15:49.580 and we got Sing Sing and Wagamama 02:15:49.580 --> 02:15:51.200 giving up for this next game. 02:15:51.200 --> 02:15:53.800 And I personally, I'm very, very excited for it. 02:15:55.800 --> 02:15:58.560 Speaking about Prime Subs, gentlemen, 02:15:58.560 --> 02:16:01.120 if you are enjoying the stream, 02:16:01.120 --> 02:16:03.760 if you're enjoying the tournament, 02:16:03.760 --> 02:16:06.060 you can support the stream for free. 02:16:06.060 --> 02:16:09.760 If you have Amazon Prime, you can subscribe 02:16:09.760 --> 02:16:12.680 and support directly what Hera is doing 02:16:12.680 --> 02:16:14.800 for the Asian Empires 2. 02:16:14.800 --> 02:16:18.340 All you need is Amazon Prime and Twitch account. 02:16:18.340 --> 02:16:20.700 By clicking top right on your icon, 02:16:20.700 --> 02:16:23.340 going to the settings, connections, 02:16:23.340 --> 02:16:25.920 and then connect Amazon Prime membership, 02:16:25.920 --> 02:16:28.620 you will be able to subscribe once a month, 02:16:28.620 --> 02:16:29.760 totally for free. 02:16:29.760 --> 02:16:34.760 At 9,000 subs, Hera promised to do second tournament 02:16:35.200 --> 02:16:36.380 next year. 02:16:36.380 --> 02:16:40.020 So if you have Amazon Prime available once again, 02:16:40.020 --> 02:16:43.140 go to top right, click on your icon, 02:16:43.140 --> 02:16:45.940 After that, settings, connections, 02:16:45.940 --> 02:16:48.340 and connect Amazon Prime membership. 02:16:48.340 --> 02:16:50.820 After that, or clicking on subscribe button, 02:16:50.820 --> 02:16:52.100 you are going to have option, 02:16:52.100 --> 02:16:55.220 subscribe for free using Twitch Prime. 02:16:55.220 --> 02:16:57.180 Once again, thank you for everyone watching, 02:16:57.180 --> 02:16:59.580 and thank you for your support. 02:16:59.580 --> 02:17:00.420 Thank you, Ajax. 02:17:00.420 --> 02:17:01.380 I should bring you on more often 02:17:01.380 --> 02:17:05.140 with that kind of advertisement to the Prime stuff. 02:17:05.140 --> 02:17:06.020 I absolutely love it. 02:17:06.020 --> 02:17:06.860 Thank you, man. 02:17:06.860 --> 02:17:08.260 And thank you, Tyler, for the 20 gifts. 02:17:08.260 --> 02:17:10.220 The second page with the $5 donation. 02:17:10.220 --> 02:17:12.540 He says, let's go wagging daddy. 02:17:12.540 --> 02:17:16.320 Good first game. Let's sing sing sing a lot lower. Please love the stream Hera 02:17:16.380 --> 02:17:19.320 Thank you the second page of the five and tylu is gifted a ton of subs 02:17:19.440 --> 02:17:25.400 W tylu in the chat for the gift it sums drop 40 ladies and gentlemen drop 100 plus though on the channel so far 02:17:25.520 --> 02:17:28.640 But guys we're waiting for the next game. They're about to get started 02:17:28.640 --> 02:17:31.920 I'm actually waiting for them to start this next game 02:17:32.520 --> 02:17:38.480 But they are not in the lobby so far. So give us a moment as they just get started. Take a look at their camps 02:17:39.000 --> 02:17:41.520 They're both just talking maybe thinking about their civilization 02:17:41.520 --> 02:17:47.720 It's going to be the home map pick from Singsing now as he's lost the first game. 02:17:47.720 --> 02:17:53.640 And yeah, you talked about this, Ayuksen, kind of a nice, kind of upset from Waga, right? 02:17:53.640 --> 02:17:56.280 Like, Singsing is the favorite. That's quite nice. 02:17:57.960 --> 02:18:05.320 Having spoken to Singsing, he said his pick is going to be Arena. 02:18:05.320 --> 02:18:18.980 He mentioned that if he is playing against Vaga, he is going to do mongols, which he did, unfortunately it failed. 02:18:18.980 --> 02:18:31.180 But now his idea to pick arena opposite to what he is used to Arabia, because once again he wants to push games in the late game. 02:18:31.180 --> 02:18:38.580 Now, maybe the idea is going to change, having seen incredible performance from Vaga, 02:18:38.580 --> 02:18:42.980 but at least that was the plan from him coming into this series. 02:18:42.980 --> 02:18:46.880 Dude, if Simpsons picks Arena, I would be very surprised by the way, 02:18:46.880 --> 02:18:49.280 because he specifically always says, 02:18:49.280 --> 02:18:53.180 I hate Arena, I hate Arena, my opponents are Smurfs, I hate Arena. 02:18:53.180 --> 02:18:56.580 That's what Simpsons was talking about, all Lada races, all I heard from him. 02:18:56.580 --> 02:19:00.980 And I would be really surprised about him picking Arena here. 02:19:00.980 --> 02:19:10.980 But the chat is saying it is Arena, that's a crazy pick, so he's picking something he hates, just because he thinks Waga hates it more potentially, which is fantastic. 02:19:10.980 --> 02:19:13.980 Great call out, Aikson, this is crazy. 02:19:13.980 --> 02:19:29.980 Talking about these smurfs coming into the matches of Sing Sing, I won't be surprised if in the tournament's discord, WagaMaga is going to leave a message in Smurf Report on Waga. 02:19:29.980 --> 02:19:34.140 If Vagat sneaks this victory as well. 02:19:34.140 --> 02:19:36.940 Let's see how it goes down, but guys, helping in. 02:19:36.940 --> 02:19:39.700 It's gonna be the home map from SinkSing. 02:19:39.700 --> 02:19:43.020 It's gonna be Arena and he's walking the Turks. 02:19:43.020 --> 02:19:44.820 His opponent is Vagamama, of course, 02:19:44.820 --> 02:19:46.740 playing as the Sicilians. 02:19:46.740 --> 02:19:50.700 The Sicilians are not a usual Arena-sive. 02:19:50.700 --> 02:19:52.780 This is very, like, kind of off-meta. 02:19:52.780 --> 02:19:55.180 I don't know what he's planning with the Sicilians. 02:19:55.180 --> 02:19:56.380 It could be a dungeon rush. 02:19:56.380 --> 02:19:57.300 I have a problem. 02:19:57.300 --> 02:19:58.460 What's the problem? 02:19:58.460 --> 02:19:59.380 Tell me. 02:19:59.380 --> 02:20:03.260 He has never played Sicilians before on the ladder. 02:20:03.260 --> 02:20:04.760 Zero games. 02:20:04.760 --> 02:20:08.180 A first-timer, this is insane. 02:20:08.180 --> 02:20:12.540 OK, can we talk about the civilizations 02:20:12.540 --> 02:20:15.700 and try to understand what's the idea of the players? 02:20:15.700 --> 02:20:20.580 What would be the tactic seeing the peak? 02:20:20.580 --> 02:20:22.580 I'm just going to get the cam set up, 02:20:22.580 --> 02:20:26.020 because I think the players and the viewers want 02:20:26.020 --> 02:20:27.660 to see the correct cameras. 02:20:27.660 --> 02:20:30.440 There we go, Sing Sing is in a red, 02:20:30.440 --> 02:20:31.800 in this correct position here. 02:20:33.060 --> 02:20:35.160 I don't know what to expect from the Sicilians, honestly. 02:20:35.160 --> 02:20:36.920 I have no idea what to expect from Sicilians. 02:20:36.920 --> 02:20:38.220 So let's talk about the Turks, 02:20:38.220 --> 02:20:40.280 because I understand the Turks here, of course. 02:20:40.280 --> 02:20:43.080 Turks are great at gunpowder. 02:20:43.080 --> 02:20:46.840 They have potentially fast and pure ledge potential. 02:20:46.840 --> 02:20:49.080 They have a castle drop into genus theory, 02:20:49.080 --> 02:20:51.400 so gunpowder in castle edge. 02:20:51.400 --> 02:20:54.040 And then we have, on the Sicilian side of things, 02:20:54.040 --> 02:20:56.400 I mean, I can walk you through their bonuses. 02:20:56.400 --> 02:20:58.240 They have some solid infantry. 02:20:58.240 --> 02:20:59.800 They have a decent late game. 02:20:59.800 --> 02:21:01.760 They have a great economy, a great boom 02:21:01.760 --> 02:21:04.480 when it comes to the farms lasting longer, 02:21:04.480 --> 02:21:06.880 but they don't really have any good power spikes. 02:21:06.880 --> 02:21:08.840 So like the farms last longer in the sense 02:21:08.840 --> 02:21:10.840 that they get more food on their farms 02:21:10.840 --> 02:21:12.380 once they get their upgrades for the farms. 02:21:12.380 --> 02:21:14.640 That's how the Sicilian bonus works there. 02:21:15.560 --> 02:21:16.840 But none of this is leading to like 02:21:16.840 --> 02:21:18.080 a super powerful strategy. 02:21:18.080 --> 02:21:20.760 It's just like a decent all-round sieve. 02:21:20.760 --> 02:21:22.680 It could be a tower rush, a dungeon rush. 02:21:22.680 --> 02:21:24.160 If that happens, I'll talk you through that. 02:21:24.160 --> 02:21:26.080 Okay, so, okay, Aikson. 02:21:26.080 --> 02:21:28.080 But so far, I'm not sure if it's gonna be... 02:21:28.880 --> 02:21:31.680 What would be the early sign of Tower Rush? 02:21:31.680 --> 02:21:32.180 Fast Feudal? 02:21:32.180 --> 02:21:33.480 Sorry, Tower Rush or Castle Rush? 02:21:34.280 --> 02:21:35.180 No, Tower Rush. 02:21:35.380 --> 02:21:37.180 Yeah, Tower. Tower from Waggon. 02:21:37.980 --> 02:21:40.180 And why do we have to wait all the way until Castle? 02:21:40.780 --> 02:21:42.480 No, it would have to be a Fast Feudal for him. 02:21:42.480 --> 02:21:46.080 So if he goes for a Fast Feudal, then we know there's gonna be a Tower Rush. 02:21:46.080 --> 02:21:46.880 Yeah, exactly. 02:21:47.980 --> 02:21:50.280 Do you think Sync Sync will be able to recognize that? 02:21:50.880 --> 02:21:51.880 I think he would, yeah. 02:21:52.280 --> 02:21:55.680 If his opponent goes for Fast Feudal, I think you would understand that it's gonna be a Tower Rush? 02:21:56.080 --> 02:21:58.580 whether he knows how to defend that i'm not sure but i think you would understand 02:21:58.580 --> 02:21:59.620 what's happening 02:21:59.620 --> 02:22:03.900 uh... with a five thousand bit donation here which is fifty dollars 02:22:03.900 --> 02:22:07.500 for now thanks for the term it so far is still catching up thank you all these 02:22:07.500 --> 02:22:08.660 and re 02:22:08.660 --> 02:22:11.740 for a massive donation your natural legend brother really really appreciate 02:22:11.740 --> 02:22:13.700 that my friend also to three sub 02:22:13.700 --> 02:22:16.460 your freaking legend brother thank you for support the channel 02:22:16.460 --> 02:22:19.300 uh... and uh... what i was just pushing in here like you don't have to 02:22:19.300 --> 02:22:21.820 tower by the way you could play normal game 02:22:21.820 --> 02:22:22.860 and uh... 02:22:22.860 --> 02:22:24.480 you could go for a massive boom 02:22:24.480 --> 02:22:27.780 And in the late game you can play with a lot of, you know, sergeants, 02:22:27.780 --> 02:22:30.140 you can play with a lot of, you know, slow infantry, 02:22:30.140 --> 02:22:32.820 that kind of slow but steady push, you've got Seedram, 02:22:32.820 --> 02:22:35.520 got a lot of the options that Waga tends to like. 02:22:35.520 --> 02:22:41.020 But yeah, I'm not really sure what he's going to go for here. 02:22:41.020 --> 02:22:45.060 Waga did mention that he wants to try a bunch of things for the very first time. 02:22:45.060 --> 02:22:47.320 Cecilians, he haven't played it before. 02:22:47.320 --> 02:22:51.980 Maybe it was in the practice rounds with his coach, maybe himself. 02:22:51.980 --> 02:22:55.580 But I would love to see some crazy shit. 02:22:55.940 --> 02:23:03.140 For example, a Maganel cutting down wood line all the way by the red line into the enemy base. 02:23:03.180 --> 02:23:04.860 That would be hilarious. 02:23:05.380 --> 02:23:06.700 Can we please see that? 02:23:06.980 --> 02:23:11.660 That's something that actually is really good in the late game, but no one has went for it yet. 02:23:11.660 --> 02:23:14.780 So that would be quite a cinema if it does come to be. 02:23:14.780 --> 02:23:24.140 I was watching one streamer today trying to do that and he was trying to shift cue the 02:23:24.140 --> 02:23:27.060 trees and it wasn't working. 02:23:27.060 --> 02:23:32.820 And he found a way with the stand ground instead of aggressive mode, because the Maganel would 02:23:32.820 --> 02:23:35.860 switch to the enemy buildings. 02:23:35.860 --> 02:23:41.180 That of course is going to be absolute cinema, the chat is going to be flying, but there 02:23:41.180 --> 02:23:48.180 There is one more thing that I was dreaming to bring onto the table if I were to play Arena 02:23:48.180 --> 02:23:49.780 against Sing Sing. 02:23:49.780 --> 02:23:55.300 And that would be to make a tower that helps your army jump over the wall. 02:23:55.300 --> 02:23:57.820 That is so cool. 02:23:57.820 --> 02:24:02.060 The siege tower, yeah the siege tower, just real quick we have some chatting going on. 02:24:02.060 --> 02:24:03.500 I'm rot-maxing so hard. 02:24:03.500 --> 02:24:07.020 A lot of rot under Waga's base, Sing Sing says the same. 02:24:07.020 --> 02:24:08.900 Sing Sing also has a lot of animals rotting. 02:24:08.900 --> 02:24:14.100 both of them rot maxing which is fantastic shout out to the spiffing brits who figured out what rot was 02:24:14.100 --> 02:24:17.460 the day before the event of course we have a nice little clip on youtube about that you guys 02:24:17.460 --> 02:24:22.500 know what i'm talking about surely um but yeah players discovering about rots and and not able 02:24:22.500 --> 02:24:28.100 to uh you know go around it as efficiently as you'd expect but uh rot maxing is a uh somewhat 02:24:28.100 --> 02:24:34.820 okay uh approach to this arena game so let's talk about a little bit um what wagga could go for 02:24:34.820 --> 02:24:38.420 it's not going to be the tower rush but it's going to be some kind of castle drop all in 02:24:38.420 --> 02:24:45.320 I think. Oh, I don't know actually, he's on stone. Wait, Waka just got on stone while 02:24:45.320 --> 02:24:50.760 Sync Sync has been on the stone for quite some time. Maybe he sold some of it to be able to 02:24:50.760 --> 02:24:55.560 go up? Is that a possibility? No, I don't think so, because I think if you want to 02:24:55.560 --> 02:25:00.360 sell your stone, you would, you already sell a 200, you can sell it. I think this tells 02:25:00.360 --> 02:25:04.680 me it's going to be a castle drop from Waka and a castle drop from Sync. Sync Sync 02:25:04.680 --> 02:25:10.000 has done the castle defense every game I don't know what Waga is doing maybe it's 02:25:10.000 --> 02:25:12.800 a tower rush though I don't know I honestly don't know what he's doing 02:25:12.800 --> 02:25:17.760 four bills going forward might be a tower rush that's late let's let's see I'm 02:25:17.760 --> 02:25:20.200 not gonna predict what he's gonna do I'm just gonna tell you what it's gonna 02:25:20.200 --> 02:25:24.640 look like when it happens Tyloo once again 50 gifted on Twitch W Tyler your 02:25:24.640 --> 02:25:28.400 freaking legend brother thank you so much tower rush potential on the cards 02:25:28.400 --> 02:25:33.160 here for villagers walking forward here I mean what do you think that 02:25:33.160 --> 02:25:40.160 What surprises me is the scouting from Sing Sing. Previously he was on the Waga's neck. 02:25:40.160 --> 02:25:47.160 He knew exactly what he was doing and now he's missing an opportunity to... 02:25:47.160 --> 02:25:49.160 Yeah, he has no idea. 02:25:49.160 --> 02:25:51.160 Yeah, he's got no idea. 100%. 02:25:51.160 --> 02:25:53.160 He's going to see those walls though. 02:25:53.160 --> 02:25:55.160 He's going to see the walls? 02:25:55.160 --> 02:25:58.160 But that's a bit too late. It's hard to react to it now. It's on your face. 02:25:58.160 --> 02:26:00.160 You have a loom coming in for Waga. 02:26:00.160 --> 02:26:03.120 Let me explain it to the chat and to IEUXIN and what we're seeing here 02:26:03.120 --> 02:26:08.840 We have a loom finally so no omega loom situation for Waga a huge wall from syncing to chat. Oh, wow 02:26:08.880 --> 02:26:14.640 That's somewhat say an overreaction, but maybe he's just playing it safe crazy reaction from syncing either way 02:26:15.080 --> 02:26:20.360 Syncing will lose the scout the Waga is going for a dungeon rush. So a dungeon is a tower for Sicilians 02:26:21.120 --> 02:26:25.680 All right, and you can make your sergeants from it now the sergeant is an infantry 02:26:25.680 --> 02:26:30.680 I can also make more dungeons itself. It's actually very cool. Yes 02:26:31.360 --> 02:26:34.680 Brother, this is the cheese. I lost to this 02:26:35.680 --> 02:26:37.680 Oh, yeah. Oh my god 02:26:39.160 --> 02:26:43.960 I'm sure I remember the cheese remember when I used to pull out the cheese took a nice little width 02:26:43.960 --> 02:26:50.320 He was dealing with the dungeon rush. I actually are you okay? Any PTSD? Breathe. I used to breathe. It's okay. You find I 02:26:50.320 --> 02:26:59.800 I'm holding up, but look at this defensive wall out of stone from Singsing, I think Waga 02:26:59.800 --> 02:27:02.040 has gotten into his head. 02:27:02.040 --> 02:27:08.440 I can totally see his blood pressure going up, the heart is beating, palms are sweating, 02:27:08.440 --> 02:27:12.440 mum spaghetti, clown. 02:27:12.440 --> 02:27:13.440 What is happening? 02:27:13.440 --> 02:27:18.600 Also Waga is going for a range, this is like an all in, this is a prepared strategy, 02:27:18.600 --> 02:27:23.920 He's never shown before wagas preparation is off the charts right now. He's gonna break into this wall. It's slow 02:27:23.920 --> 02:27:27.840 But steady you eventually will break into it since he's buying time with another layer of stone walls 02:27:27.840 --> 02:27:31.560 But these houses are pretty squishy. The stone is pretty exposed. You might have to tower it 02:27:31.840 --> 02:27:34.080 Zing sing could be in trouble while it's going in 02:27:34.080 --> 02:27:40.800 He's got three villagers and four sergeants remember they can also build the dungeons wagas looking around he doesn't see the stone 02:27:41.800 --> 02:27:48.000 This is awful like you you build a China wall in your own base less space for the farms 02:27:48.600 --> 02:27:53.760 And enemy just what they build another tower attack on Titan 02:27:54.440 --> 02:28:00.160 Another layer of walls with the Titans are coming in the black is coming in like a Titan with these dungeons and 02:28:01.200 --> 02:28:05.600 Dude, he's that he's building another dungeon 16 with another layer of walls. It's a fantastic 02:28:06.600 --> 02:28:10.520 I can say I spotted that sink has ten villagers on stone 02:28:10.520 --> 02:28:15.800 So he plans to drop a castle somewhere in defensive position something that you said he's done before 02:28:15.800 --> 02:28:24.800 But looking at the economy from Blaga, he has only one unit getting food, the rest on wood and gold. 02:28:24.800 --> 02:28:27.800 Why? What does he plan to produce? 02:28:27.800 --> 02:28:33.800 That's actually a mistake. Like we've seen Mr. Lama, he tower rushes but he messes up his economy behind it. 02:28:33.800 --> 02:28:38.800 You have to get your farms down. If you don't get your farms down, he's not going to be able to make villages soon. 02:28:38.800 --> 02:28:42.800 He's not going to be able to get to the next age. So, Ayuksen, no farms is a bad sign. 02:28:42.800 --> 02:28:51.800 actually I feel like Sing Sing is doing a great job holding Sing Sing has no looom! Sing Sing has been holding with no looom! 02:28:51.800 --> 02:28:52.800 Oh my goodness! 02:28:52.800 --> 02:28:57.800 We absolutely need Omega Loom in the chant and while we do that can we switch back to the Vagas base? 02:28:57.800 --> 02:29:07.800 I've noticed that he's chopping struggling trees. Could that be that he was planning to get on farms and he just forgot? 02:29:07.800 --> 02:29:11.960 I think he forgot. Yeah, I think he needs to farm and he's just forgetting that wood is not really good 02:29:11.960 --> 02:29:15.540 It's not doing anything. He has no villagers queued. That's the downside of you 02:29:15.540 --> 02:29:18.160 So that's a downside of doing something that you've never done before 02:29:18.720 --> 02:29:22.600 It's surprising you're catching your point of guard, but you're just not that good at doing it 02:29:22.600 --> 02:29:24.840 He gets the farms down now, but take a look at that number 02:29:24.840 --> 02:29:27.240 Oh, now it's done. Yes, I don't see see in the corner 02:29:27.240 --> 02:29:30.480 I use and told you guys what that means less villagers coming out for Wagga 02:29:30.520 --> 02:29:33.520 Which means that syncing is actually pulling ahead of course 02:29:33.520 --> 02:29:36.800 He's got less villagers, but he's got Castle Age on top of Vlaga 02:29:36.800 --> 02:29:42.120 So Singsing has a massive advantage and he's held beautifully in my opinion Singsing is hard-of-winning right now 02:29:43.440 --> 02:29:49.620 But this castle he's making something called Janissary did those guys held a gun? 02:29:50.080 --> 02:29:52.320 Yeah, it's a gunpowder. Are you telling oh? 02:29:53.720 --> 02:29:58.640 This is not looking very good for Vlaga. No and looking at the economy efficiency 02:29:58.640 --> 02:30:05.640 Those villagers that have been walking from the TC to the struggling trees, they haven't been working very efficiently. 02:30:05.640 --> 02:30:12.140 And so, while the pressure was on Sing Sing, he had almost zero idle TC. 02:30:12.140 --> 02:30:19.640 These two minutes, 40 seconds of idle TC, with quick calculations, boom, boom, kaboom, that's like seven villagers. 02:30:19.640 --> 02:30:21.640 Yeah, seven villagers at Kodun. 02:30:21.640 --> 02:30:26.640 And that's a big problem here because look at this pressure from Wagga, it's all getting cleared up. 02:30:26.640 --> 02:30:29.380 Dude, Singsing just having his way with him right now. 02:30:29.380 --> 02:30:33.360 He's just shooting him over the wall, and Singsing with a great arena pick, I think he 02:30:33.360 --> 02:30:34.660 caught Waga off guard. 02:30:34.660 --> 02:30:38.580 Waga had a prepared strategy on arena, but Singsing's strategy tried and tested with 02:30:38.580 --> 02:30:39.580 the Janniseries. 02:30:39.580 --> 02:30:42.680 Fantastic performance here from Singsing so far, and he's going to be picking off 02:30:42.680 --> 02:30:45.100 the Sargeants, he's going to be picking off the Archers. 02:30:45.100 --> 02:30:48.620 Singsing, despite dropping game 1, is looking to clap back in game 2. 02:30:48.620 --> 02:30:52.100 There's one more dungeon going up, but there's no pressure from this angle. 02:30:52.100 --> 02:30:55.260 The market, despite being on fire, is still with a lot of HP. 02:30:55.260 --> 02:31:00.120 dungeon not doing a whole lot right now I wouldn't go as far as to say that the 02:31:00.120 --> 02:31:04.240 game is totally over because looking at the resources collected both players 02:31:04.240 --> 02:31:11.360 respectively are pretty pretty close yeah and now with the Vanga bringing the 02:31:11.360 --> 02:31:17.240 fight to the enemy at this stage he can calm down he can it's time where you 02:31:17.240 --> 02:31:21.300 can collect yourself and try to understand what is going to be your 02:31:21.300 --> 02:31:29.780 next move, because clearly the surprise didn't work. But the castle and the castle units, 02:31:29.780 --> 02:31:36.300 it's not what I would expect him, that Waga would expect. He wanted to get in, destroy 02:31:36.300 --> 02:31:40.060 the economy, but now we have the time to collect ourselves. 02:31:40.060 --> 02:31:44.220 I think Waga going right, by the way, I think Waga going right to the market and not left 02:31:44.220 --> 02:31:47.380 to the stone. Of course, he didn't know this, but him going right instead of left 02:31:47.380 --> 02:31:49.300 actually kind of cost him the game 02:31:49.300 --> 02:31:51.480 or like at least cost him the rush because 02:31:51.480 --> 02:31:54.300 here there's nothing to attack but on the left side there's the stone 02:31:54.300 --> 02:31:56.700 and unfortunately he just shows right instead of left 02:31:56.700 --> 02:31:57.500 and uh... 02:31:57.500 --> 02:32:00.480 got kinda punished for that but again it's not really a mistake because he didn't know better 02:32:00.480 --> 02:32:03.160 no vision of course, Magina is coming out to clear these towers 02:32:03.160 --> 02:32:05.780 Simpsons has an option by the way 02:32:05.780 --> 02:32:08.060 he has an option to make one petard 02:32:08.060 --> 02:32:09.560 and he could go to the bottom 02:32:09.560 --> 02:32:14.180 and he could easily just counter attack onto Waga's base, nice and easy 02:32:14.180 --> 02:32:17.260 wait, wouldn't you break the towers first? 02:32:17.260 --> 02:32:23.260 You can ignore them. You don't have to break them. You could ignore them. You could break them, which is what he's doing, but you could ignore them and just counterattack, right? 02:32:23.260 --> 02:32:35.260 Oh, interesting. So these guys with guns support one bombardier. No. The cannon guy. 02:32:35.260 --> 02:32:37.260 The batard, yeah. 02:32:37.260 --> 02:32:46.260 Wow, interesting. Now, what would be a response from Vaga? Seeing that the enemy has guns, what do you do against it? 02:32:46.260 --> 02:32:51.660 Uh, it's a great question. So, first step, go up to Castle Edge. Nothing in futile age beats this unit. It's impossible. 02:32:51.660 --> 02:32:54.360 This army comp is way too strong. You have to upgrade your tech. 02:32:54.360 --> 02:32:58.360 Waga goes up to Castle Edge. He's hoping to buy time with those dungeons. 02:32:58.360 --> 02:33:02.560 My best advice is that Waga should go for economy first. 02:33:02.560 --> 02:33:04.360 I think he should get a lot of economy. 02:33:04.360 --> 02:33:09.160 I think he should get his economy to like a 3TC setup, maybe even a 4th DC. 02:33:09.160 --> 02:33:12.760 Because Sicilians need a lot of economy to fight against the Turks usually. 02:33:12.760 --> 02:33:17.760 On low economy, the guns will out-produce or outperform what Sicilians can put to the field. 02:33:17.760 --> 02:33:22.260 So I think you, Broom, go for a lot of economy and maybe you bring out some heavy cavalry later. 02:33:22.260 --> 02:33:24.760 I think that would be a good option for why I gotta fall back on. 02:33:24.760 --> 02:33:26.560 But will he be in time? I'm not sure. 02:33:26.560 --> 02:33:29.260 Sing Sing's already adding a Townsend and he's already developing his own economy. 02:33:31.760 --> 02:33:37.760 Looking at this with the feedback from you, it really feels like Sing Sing is a little bit more prepared, 02:33:37.760 --> 02:33:39.760 or at least have more experience. 02:33:39.760 --> 02:33:42.260 He has played 20 games on the ladder with the Turks, 02:33:42.260 --> 02:33:49.780 So he knows about the strength and the build order and just in general, uh-oh, Vaga is laughing. 02:33:49.780 --> 02:33:50.900 We might see Gigi. 02:33:50.900 --> 02:33:55.900 No, but he's laughing because he got trapped. I don't know if it's Gigi, but all of the army will die. 02:33:56.540 --> 02:34:01.740 Singsing completely destroys the push from Waga and will now push back across the map. 02:34:01.740 --> 02:34:05.820 The last villager goes down and Waga got completely trapped in the corner there. 02:34:05.820 --> 02:34:09.460 He could have ran away earlier, but Singsing did not let him delete the wall and was right there. 02:34:09.460 --> 02:34:11.460 They are syncing with a master piece of a defense so far, 02:34:11.460 --> 02:34:14.460 Castle it in 15 seconds for Waga. 02:34:14.460 --> 02:34:16.460 What are your hopes for Waga man? 02:34:16.460 --> 02:34:18.460 He's already down villagers, down a lot of army. 02:34:18.460 --> 02:34:20.460 It's not looking good for him. 02:34:20.460 --> 02:34:25.460 I think we can see him using the stone that he has gathered so far 02:34:25.460 --> 02:34:28.460 for defensive castle of his own. 02:34:28.460 --> 02:34:32.460 And as long as he keeps map control 02:34:32.460 --> 02:34:38.460 and don't let Synxing to, let's say, bring a Trebuchet tool, 02:34:38.460 --> 02:34:46.380 He should be fine. We see a second PC coming up at Castle, so it's not over yet. 02:34:46.380 --> 02:34:55.580 Yeah, it's not over yet. So I think Castle to defend is pretty good. Janus' Magnus could break in, 02:34:55.580 --> 02:35:00.780 but with that castle you can kind of block a lot of your base. You're going to be able to 02:35:00.780 --> 02:35:04.620 defend yourself quite nicely and then just boom to the back. It's a pretty good idea from 02:35:04.620 --> 02:35:07.460 I like that. He needs to kind of catch up in villagers anyways 02:35:07.700 --> 02:35:10.380 Let's see what things he decides to do. He's got a decent economy himself 02:35:10.380 --> 02:35:13.740 And you should be able to try to push himself at some point 02:35:13.740 --> 02:35:19.040 I don't like that he's taking so long clearing these buildings, but he decides it's worth taking them out 02:35:20.740 --> 02:35:26.540 Yeah, I think for the foreseeable future for as long as you are at the enemy's doorstep 02:35:26.700 --> 02:35:31.020 These buildings wouldn't be producing anything, but he managed to kill it quite quickly 02:35:31.020 --> 02:35:40.780 quickly. I remember we've seen speaking break with his horse's wagons killing 25 wood worth 02:35:40.780 --> 02:35:43.900 in the house for like 2 minutes. 02:35:43.900 --> 02:35:48.540 Yeah, that's the opposite of what you want. But this one, yeah, with the siege, it's not 02:35:48.540 --> 02:35:52.260 too bad, of course. And he is bringing the siege forward. Of course, Wagga will go to 02:35:52.260 --> 02:35:56.460 the offensive siege workshop. I think he will just start picking apart these walls. 02:35:56.460 --> 02:35:59.900 The guns do pretty well against the walls themselves. The Magnos also quite good 02:35:59.900 --> 02:36:04.380 against walls, so Wagga doesn't have that much time to defend by the way. He needs the 02:36:04.380 --> 02:36:07.980 Magnals quite fast here I would say. 02:36:07.980 --> 02:36:12.860 And they take 7 business days to produce if I'm correct. I'm always down on Magnals. 02:36:12.860 --> 02:36:19.260 I want to have them 7 yesterday, so that's a little bit of a disaster. And seeing how 02:36:19.260 --> 02:36:25.380 open his base is, I think if Wagga breaks in, we might have a problem. That castle 02:36:25.380 --> 02:36:30.180 right there isn't going to do much because it's so far away. Maybe bringing it a little 02:36:30.180 --> 02:36:35.260 bit closer to the goal and to the PC center would be a little bit better option. What do 02:36:35.260 --> 02:36:36.260 you think? 02:36:36.260 --> 02:36:39.060 Yeah, I think the castle could just be bypassed here. It's going to help a little bit right 02:36:39.060 --> 02:36:42.780 now. Sing Sing finally sees the castle. A beautiful response from Sing Sing. He's got 02:36:42.780 --> 02:36:46.820 such good micro, such good unit control. Doesn't even lose a single scratch on the 02:36:46.820 --> 02:36:50.180 genus series to that castle. He's going to start taking out the CD workshop. It's 02:36:50.180 --> 02:36:53.540 going to all come down to the micro from Wagga. He's got a couple of meganels. 02:36:53.540 --> 02:36:57.540 He's got some sardines being messed up, and he goes to a megan on the back, it's just, 02:36:57.540 --> 02:36:59.700 how do you catch Singsing's army here? 02:36:59.700 --> 02:37:04.140 Singsing's got good unit control, let's see, he's going to keep the janissaries at bay. 02:37:04.140 --> 02:37:06.140 He's going to the quarter. 02:37:06.140 --> 02:37:10.140 I think like this, the megan is gonna, oh my god, no, no way, no way! 02:37:10.140 --> 02:37:14.220 Oh my god, one more, one more, oh shit, he's already down. 02:37:14.220 --> 02:37:15.220 What the hell? 02:37:15.220 --> 02:37:17.620 These guns, guys, they are OP. 02:37:17.620 --> 02:37:18.620 Oh my god. 02:37:18.620 --> 02:37:19.620 Oh my god. 02:37:19.620 --> 02:37:20.620 Oh my god, so many bullets. 02:37:20.620 --> 02:37:26.620 He's got the he's got the surround he's got the surround manganese on the back. Oh my goodness a blunder from six 02:37:27.380 --> 02:37:34.300 Clear up from Wagga. No freaking way. That was insane. Holy what was syncing doing in the corner? 02:37:34.940 --> 02:37:36.940 That was crazy 02:37:37.340 --> 02:37:39.340 Okay, I was crazy could 02:37:39.500 --> 02:37:44.660 Sing sings the manganese shoot the manganese of Wagga all those buildings were on the way 02:37:44.660 --> 02:37:47.420 No, he could have he could have walked forward kill the manganese 02:37:47.420 --> 02:37:50.740 He could have dodged with the Janus series, Singsing could have done a lot of things. 02:37:50.740 --> 02:37:52.140 I think he choked it. 02:37:52.140 --> 02:37:56.500 He's got great unit control, but you know, even the best players are making mistakes sometimes, 02:37:56.500 --> 02:37:58.900 but it's not just a bad play from Singsing. 02:37:58.900 --> 02:38:00.580 It's really good credit to Wagga. 02:38:00.580 --> 02:38:02.380 Wagga had to be the one to do it. 02:38:02.380 --> 02:38:06.340 A lot of bluster players would not be able to find those shots, so credit to Wagga 02:38:06.340 --> 02:38:08.780 and maybe a slight miss up from Singsing. 02:38:08.780 --> 02:38:10.260 But guys, have no fear. 02:38:10.260 --> 02:38:12.020 If you're a Singsing fan, don't worry. 02:38:12.020 --> 02:38:14.140 Your boy's playing a great game still. 02:38:14.140 --> 02:38:15.620 Second castle, 20 bills up. 02:38:15.620 --> 02:38:23.620 He's still in a winning position. Waga just gave himself some hope to try to come back into this game, but Sing Sing is still in the commanding position, alright? 02:38:23.620 --> 02:38:25.620 Great moment though, great moment. 02:38:26.620 --> 02:38:38.620 I've noticed that Waga has made monastery of his own, and seems like Sing Sing idea of getting the relics very early on might not work here. 02:38:38.620 --> 02:38:39.620 Yeah. 02:38:39.620 --> 02:38:48.020 And while Vaga is down on villagers, if he manages to get relics, the late game might look 02:38:48.020 --> 02:38:49.020 a little bit better. 02:38:49.020 --> 02:38:51.820 And look at that single monk at the bottom left. 02:38:51.820 --> 02:38:53.780 Is Vaga going to spot him? 02:38:53.780 --> 02:38:54.780 Oh. 02:38:54.780 --> 02:38:55.780 Not yet? 02:38:55.780 --> 02:38:56.780 No! 02:38:56.780 --> 02:38:57.780 He's holding a relic? 02:38:57.780 --> 02:38:58.780 He's on the side of it. 02:38:58.780 --> 02:38:59.780 Dude, this guy's Jaster. 02:38:59.780 --> 02:39:00.780 He's just trolled. 02:39:00.780 --> 02:39:01.780 He's been holding that for like two minutes. 02:39:01.780 --> 02:39:02.780 Aura farming. 02:39:02.780 --> 02:39:03.780 Yeah, he's aura farming. 02:39:03.780 --> 02:39:04.780 That's kind of insane. 02:39:04.780 --> 02:39:05.780 All right. 02:39:05.780 --> 02:39:08.980 Yeah, that one's got a relic. 02:39:08.980 --> 02:39:14.740 I have a newborn, she's 3 kilos. Holding her like this, I can do maybe for a minute. 02:39:14.740 --> 02:39:20.180 But what is it, like 10 minutes right there? Holding a rally? My man is jacked. 02:39:20.180 --> 02:39:24.420 He has it removed. Dude, that guy's a savage. Alright, we'll see how long he stays. 02:39:24.420 --> 02:39:28.260 He's been here since at least 30 minutes. That guy's been putting in the reps. 02:39:28.260 --> 02:39:31.460 Waga's gonna be looking for some more relics though. Of course, as you mentioned, 02:39:31.460 --> 02:39:34.980 Sing Sing Pizza the Relics last game, this time it's gonna be Waga, both players. 02:39:34.980 --> 02:39:41.980 You know, putting some Pryo on those relics, with the two castles set up, we can expect that it's going to be mainly genocidal play from Singsing. 02:39:41.980 --> 02:39:49.980 And he's got a good economy behind this handcraft coming in, 90 villagers. Of course, it was that 30 villagers lead, 25 villagers lead. 02:39:49.980 --> 02:39:56.980 It's pretty good for Singsing, and I think, you know, Waga with Sicilians normally need a much bigger economy to be able to fight the Turks. 02:39:56.980 --> 02:40:01.980 Turks usually have better army, better units, but Sicilians usually have a better economy. 02:40:01.980 --> 02:40:10.980 See what Wagga can do is taking the map control though so far with those donjens trying to buy some time, but Sync Sync is about to click up to him purely as the ladies and gentlemen he has clicked it. That's crazy. 02:40:12.980 --> 02:40:24.980 I'm looking at the upgrades and Sync is missing one upgrade on the wood. Is there a reason for that? Is there ever you would not want to get an upgrade on the wood? 02:40:24.980 --> 02:40:29.980 That's a good question. There is a reason for it sometimes, but in a situation like this there's no reason for it. 02:40:29.980 --> 02:40:35.160 I think he just forgot to pick it up, and he's picking it up now, but to be fair, you know, not the nitpick Singsing. 02:40:35.160 --> 02:40:38.200 Oh, the monk finally moves at the perfect time. That's fantastic. 02:40:38.200 --> 02:40:43.220 So he literally just aura farmed and he's gonna bring the relic back in. That monk is a freaking gigachat. 02:40:43.800 --> 02:40:46.120 Fantastic performance from Singsing there and his monk. 02:40:46.760 --> 02:40:49.280 So there is a reason to skip both sometimes, but not now. 02:40:49.280 --> 02:40:53.680 And Singsing has missed out on a lot of wood over time, since he didn't get that wood chopping upgrade. 02:40:53.840 --> 02:40:57.780 However, no big deal. He's still doing good enough. He's gonna pick up Thundering now, which is, um, 02:40:57.780 --> 02:41:03.320 Only working for cavalry archers. I think Sing Sing will switch to cavalry archers by the way 02:41:03.320 --> 02:41:08.180 I don't think he's gonna stick with the genoceries. Not sure though. What does this 02:41:09.940 --> 02:41:15.980 Ring does to cavalry archers? It gives them a more accuracy and makes them attack faster 02:41:16.580 --> 02:41:19.940 So it's a pretty big buff and yeah, indeed it is gonna be cavalry archers and 02:41:20.220 --> 02:41:21.500 Wagas up the Imp as well 02:41:21.500 --> 02:41:24.700 He's gonna also go for some dungeons in the center plus some infantry 02:41:24.700 --> 02:41:28.540 I'm not sure what his final composition is going to be, but I think the Turks with their 02:41:28.540 --> 02:41:32.740 Cavaliers, we've seen this from Sing Sing earlier, I think yesterday we saw Sing Sing 02:41:32.740 --> 02:41:37.060 pull it out and you can get the 100 HP Heavy Cavalier. 02:41:37.060 --> 02:41:40.860 The Turk Lake game is conventionally one of the best lake games in Age of Empires 02:41:40.860 --> 02:41:43.540 2, it's very strong. 02:41:43.540 --> 02:41:48.780 I'm honestly impressed how did you manage to read the exact unit he is going to build 02:41:48.780 --> 02:41:50.900 almost as if you are decent at this game. 02:41:50.900 --> 02:41:57.480 I'm gonna be honest it slipped through my my my fingers, but looking at the resources collected 02:41:58.180 --> 02:42:00.180 sync sync is so 02:42:00.660 --> 02:42:05.680 Infront and he's making force for TC. I love that. I 02:42:06.900 --> 02:42:10.740 Just looking at the statistics looking at the possibilities 02:42:10.740 --> 02:42:15.220 It seems like sync sync is going to overwhelm waga unless 02:42:15.220 --> 02:42:19.980 Yes, Waga once again performed miracles with those magnolias. 02:42:19.980 --> 02:42:24.500 Yeah, again, like those magnolias, look at this one, this one has 10 kills, that's ridiculous. 02:42:24.500 --> 02:42:29.740 Think of the value that one magnolias can kill 10 units, that's so insane. 02:42:29.740 --> 02:42:33.280 But syncing up to imp with 40 village lead, going to the church, late game composition, 02:42:33.280 --> 02:42:37.420 and syncing by the way, is super, super disciplined, alright? 02:42:37.420 --> 02:42:39.820 He is a player that will not take risks. 02:42:39.820 --> 02:42:44.220 He likes to play positional, he likes to play fast and aggressive, but not stupid 02:42:44.220 --> 02:42:48.460 reckless with his army. I know we had that one slip-up back here, but trust me that was not the 02:42:48.460 --> 02:42:54.140 syncing that usually shows up. There was a slight slip-up and he got punished of course, but I expect 02:42:54.140 --> 02:43:00.140 big things from syncing. But hold on, it's Onergers from Waga! He is going to the Onergers! 02:43:00.140 --> 02:43:02.940 Ayukxin, what does this upgrade do? Come on, explain it to the chat, because I know you don't- 02:43:02.940 --> 02:43:09.500 I have no idea, but like at some point they get to shoot the fire did. That's so cool. 02:43:09.500 --> 02:43:12.700 Honestly, I am impressed that Vaga even knows about it. 02:43:12.700 --> 02:43:19.700 Like, being as experienced in this game as myself, I did not know those things can get upgraded. 02:43:19.700 --> 02:43:21.200 I just don't know. 02:43:21.200 --> 02:43:24.100 Vaga does know about chemistry, he will pick it up later. 02:43:24.100 --> 02:43:28.100 It's not the most important upgrade for the Honourers, but it does make them look cool shooting the fire. 02:43:28.100 --> 02:43:30.400 Honourers coming in to the Honourers' Siege. 02:43:30.400 --> 02:43:35.000 The thing is though, Honourers are not that good for Sturks for a few reasons. 02:43:35.000 --> 02:43:42.760 Number one, the units are high HP. 100 HP caverns once the tech comes in, even without the tech, 70 HP. Pretty decent. 02:43:42.760 --> 02:43:46.840 Alright, we talk about bomber cannons. The bombers have way more range than the honorgers. 02:43:46.840 --> 02:43:47.640 Oh yeah, oh yeah. 02:43:47.640 --> 02:43:50.040 So, I think things got good defense here in my opinion. 02:43:51.240 --> 02:43:58.360 Uh, these bomber cannons, I think, so broken. They shoot a mile away, they move faster than Trebuchet. 02:43:58.360 --> 02:44:00.360 What is this? Okay, 5th scapening. 02:44:00.360 --> 02:44:05.360 I hate it, I think it's just a wipeout, no, for on Vaga. 02:44:05.360 --> 02:44:08.360 Like you said, Singsync does not take a chance. 02:44:08.360 --> 02:44:11.360 He does not see an option to win it easily. 02:44:11.360 --> 02:44:15.360 No, I'm going to build up more resources, going to build up better army, GG. 02:44:15.360 --> 02:44:19.360 Yeah, exactly that, exactly that. Doesn't want to take those risks. 02:44:19.360 --> 02:44:22.360 Alright, we have skill-bounding armor coming in. 02:44:22.360 --> 02:44:26.360 And we have a lot of Hissar, Hissar, Heavy Cab Archer, Bombard. 02:44:26.360 --> 02:44:32.880 the combo for syncing that is the best composition for turks in late game, barring gunpowder or 02:44:32.880 --> 02:44:36.440 barring extra gunpowder like elite genoceries and whatnot, but even someone argued that 02:44:36.440 --> 02:44:41.420 the heavy cavalry is their best unit, so syncing scaling to an absolute powerhouse, waga going 02:44:41.420 --> 02:44:46.680 for capped ram, going for heavy siege infantry, he loves the siege infantry, dude the rams 02:44:46.680 --> 02:44:51.560 could be very interesting, but yo kudos to waga, he's making a game out of this, 02:44:51.560 --> 02:44:54.960 we thought he was dead in the waters and dude this is not looking too bad for waga 02:44:54.960 --> 02:45:01.260 right now I see a couple of monks on the field and while I have never used them 02:45:01.260 --> 02:45:06.720 for anything else than aura farming holding the relics I would love to see 02:45:06.720 --> 02:45:11.880 Vaga use it to heal units or maybe to even get these horses on his own side 02:45:11.880 --> 02:45:16.880 yeah convert some units and whatnot big pincer flank here from sing sing and 02:45:16.880 --> 02:45:19.720 charge from the left side some caverns just from the right he's gonna go in 02:45:19.720 --> 02:45:23.320 looking at Dr. Otter's beautiful micro from sing sing he pulls back he goes 02:45:23.320 --> 02:45:27.540 forward he's that daughter she got his both what are we seeing another split 02:45:27.540 --> 02:45:32.320 sing sing wow excellent micro he took no damage from the daughter she stepped 02:45:32.320 --> 02:45:36.180 three of them the stars do get cleaned up wagas playing a fantastic micro fight 02:45:36.180 --> 02:45:40.620 as well beautiful beautiful micro multiple splits from sing sing this is 02:45:40.620 --> 02:45:46.020 something you see out of a professional I'm honestly impressed how thank you 02:45:46.020 --> 02:45:50.900 those horses are yeah I've seen them take a hit with the like they hit those 02:45:50.900 --> 02:45:54.500 rocks with the head and they still stand. It's incredible. 02:45:54.500 --> 02:45:58.620 He's still much forward here. Singsing looking to kill the last two siege weapons here, the 02:45:58.620 --> 02:46:03.060 last two honorators, another beautiful split. It's almost become second nature. He dodges. 02:46:03.060 --> 02:46:07.740 You just can't hit him. They call him Master Singh for a reason. Heavy Cavalry coming in. 02:46:07.740 --> 02:46:12.260 Dude, Singsing is so good with his army and he's showing that that first game is 02:46:12.260 --> 02:46:15.860 not going to define him as a player. He's looking to equalize the score and the 02:46:15.860 --> 02:46:19.300 Wagamaga has tried his big push but it has completely failed. 02:46:19.300 --> 02:46:23.060 Singsing with a 200-pop-turt composition, looking to push back now. 02:46:23.060 --> 02:46:26.260 Fantastic play from the red player. Love it. Holy. 02:46:27.300 --> 02:46:37.700 I don't know if you've seen, Wagamaga has sent his ram filled with the man inside onto the castle alone. 02:46:37.700 --> 02:46:40.100 And it really felt like a desperation. 02:46:40.100 --> 02:46:48.600 While the start was looking decent, now it seems like Vaga just ran out of ideas. 02:46:48.600 --> 02:46:52.600 Yeah, I completely agree with you. I think he was desperately trying to get something in there. 02:46:52.600 --> 02:46:55.600 He was missing a lot of upgrades. The Sardons weren't even elites. 02:46:55.600 --> 02:46:59.600 And he didn't even have that many Rams. No C-Gram, just one Cap-Gram. 02:46:59.600 --> 02:47:03.600 It was not the strongest push and I think he was a bit desperate. I think you're right about that. 02:47:03.600 --> 02:47:11.600 I think how Vaga still produces Rams and they are in the position where they cannot deliver anything. 02:47:11.600 --> 02:47:17.600 I can expect that this game is pretty much over and we are going to see GG in a minute. 02:47:17.600 --> 02:47:24.600 As if I coming out here from Singsing, actually 20 HP on those Cavarkers going to make them 100 HP. 02:47:24.600 --> 02:47:30.600 A fantastic technology of course. One Onager from Vaga. I'm struggling to see how we come back here. 02:47:30.600 --> 02:47:34.280 here dropping a lot of production how would your tech is quite good but this 02:47:34.280 --> 02:47:40.600 army competition is hard to use much of a much of flag oh oh he shot at all youth 02:47:40.600 --> 02:47:47.760 there the honor just got one kill how at the moment 02:47:47.760 --> 02:47:53.680 since since the this catapult she called like right no out of this way 02:47:53.680 --> 02:47:59.000 yeah into the morgue monks and healing up I want to leave your attention guys 02:47:59.000 --> 02:48:07.240 to the fact that Sink Sink is surrounding his monks so if Vaga would have archers for example 02:48:07.240 --> 02:48:14.600 it would be impossible to snipe those guys and he does it on purpose while those guys heal. 02:48:14.600 --> 02:48:20.440 Now I know that some of the monks have AOE heal. How do you know the difference? 02:48:20.440 --> 02:48:25.640 No, only Sarasen monks have AOE heal that's not something worth remembering even it's just 02:48:25.640 --> 02:48:29.840 one civilization most monks only heal one unit at a time but if you have multiple 02:48:29.840 --> 02:48:34.080 monks you can get you know good healing over time of course. Do they have like a 02:48:34.080 --> 02:48:40.960 mana or something? No no mana they can heal incidentally. So wow that's quite 02:48:40.960 --> 02:48:45.440 strong. That's impressive. Yeah so now Waga's got like no chance to even kill 02:48:45.440 --> 02:48:48.800 one of these units because they always need to be full HP and Sixie's gonna go 02:48:48.800 --> 02:48:52.160 forward with a forward cast in here. We saw the barbards make sure we used 02:48:52.160 --> 02:48:57.120 of those honorgers, short work of those honorgers excuse me, and yeah it's just 200 02:48:57.120 --> 02:49:01.520 pop third composition guys, it's really hard to stop, look at how many stables we have, 02:49:01.520 --> 02:49:06.640 15 stables here, another 3 here, this is fantastic, a lot of fresher from Sing Sing 02:49:06.640 --> 02:49:10.360 with a lot of army composition or a lot of army production excuse me, to follow 02:49:10.360 --> 02:49:16.040 it up. Look at that villager marching in, he's trying too much, the moon, look 02:49:16.040 --> 02:49:20.560 at him stand, no. He was holding it to gold but it's not going to be enough 02:49:20.560 --> 02:49:25.540 unfortunately, lag is trying one last push with the halban skirm, it's not bad from waga but I mean take a look at the 02:49:25.540 --> 02:49:30.120 weapon from sing sing just easy target practice there hit and run, he hasn't lost a single 02:49:30.120 --> 02:49:34.480 cavarcher, sing sing has not lost a single cavarcher this game, it's ridiculous. 02:49:34.480 --> 02:49:41.400 How do you know? How do you know? I'm watching, I haven't seen one die, I haven't seen one die honestly. 02:49:41.400 --> 02:49:48.080 I mean brother, a few minutes ago when I was talking about the resources collected, 02:49:48.080 --> 02:49:55.760 it is pretty much even. But now having 126 villagers working on the backlines of Sing Sing 02:49:55.760 --> 02:50:01.920 versus 90 on Vaga, the difference is just skyrocketing. And having only 02:50:02.800 --> 02:50:08.560 134 versus 200, I don't see a way in which you win. 02:50:09.360 --> 02:50:13.840 Yeah. No, at this point it's like we're just watching Sing Sing kind of put the final pieces 02:50:13.840 --> 02:50:17.360 of the puzzle together fully upgraded heavy Cavaliers archers in the back. 02:50:17.360 --> 02:50:23.120 Hussars are missing some upgrades but by the way I think he's got 96 Hussar in the queue. 02:50:24.000 --> 02:50:28.960 Sixing has 96 Hussar in the queue. Yep that's what that's telling us. Somebody do the mass. 02:50:30.080 --> 02:50:37.840 96 times. How much gold is that? Zero. What? Wait wait wait are you telling me these guys 02:50:37.840 --> 02:50:46.600 do not cost gold it's a light cavalry they're not that strong it is a 02:50:46.600 --> 02:50:51.520 stamina will count the unit they're not the strong bro they take my gun and 02:50:51.520 --> 02:50:58.520 shots head on strong it has a decent amount of HP it is a good unit to be 02:50:58.520 --> 02:51:05.440 fair it is a good unit in the defense of the SR here but right here this 02:51:05.440 --> 02:51:10.560 right here on the screen with this qualified sing sing there's 200 men in 02:51:10.560 --> 02:51:21.760 three tiles how how yeah it's control stacking that's legal actually that's a 02:51:21.760 --> 02:51:26.800 good question actually remove it what is this well we want the devs to remove it 02:51:26.800 --> 02:51:31.360 but the devs are busy working on the new DLC which will come out soon of course 02:51:31.360 --> 02:51:37.160 But yeah, one cavalry did die so at least one has died but these guys have a hundred and forty kills by the way 02:51:37.160 --> 02:51:40.160 a hundred and forty kills on those cavalry archers 02:51:40.680 --> 02:51:44.220 Bombers pushing forward here and I used to be very impressed by that stacking 02:51:45.080 --> 02:51:50.040 Yeah, you're kind of right actually I use it. It is kind of BS, right? They can stack so many units on one tile 02:51:53.480 --> 02:51:57.320 All right, well play. Let's go right. Yeah, that's it GG. Wow sing sing 02:51:57.320 --> 02:52:02.920 Gigi in the chat. We have a series on our hands. Ladies and gentlemen, Singsing bounces back with a game 02:52:03.180 --> 02:52:08.640 One to one and these guys are as close of a matchup as I've seen all tournament 02:52:08.640 --> 02:52:14.260 I'm beyond stoked that we're starting the day the best of fives with Singsing versus Wagamama 02:52:14.260 --> 02:52:19.520 This has been fantastic and just want to give a quick shout out to Sleepy Z with the $10 donation 02:52:19.520 --> 02:52:21.520 Thank you Sleepy Z for supporting the channel 02:52:21.520 --> 02:52:29.520 Ayukshin, what do you make of Sing Sing's bounce back and how does Waga, who's going to go on Arabia, how does he respond? 02:52:29.520 --> 02:52:33.520 Is it the best SIG or do you still, because it's the best of five, you still have some time in the series? 02:52:33.520 --> 02:52:37.520 Do you try something a little spicy, a little different here? Talk to me. 02:52:37.520 --> 02:52:46.520 So, being a one-trick pony myself, I think you have a strategy in mind, 02:52:46.520 --> 02:52:54.520 But the moment you miss a step, or the moment the game goes in the wrong direction, it's very difficult to adapt. 02:52:54.520 --> 02:53:04.520 While Sync Sync is... So, the Vantric pony usually tries to end the game already, get enemies by the surprise. 02:53:04.520 --> 02:53:09.520 And I've lost games like this myself, I won games using this tactic. 02:53:09.520 --> 02:53:16.520 But with the aim of Synxing to play the late game, he's always prepared. 02:53:16.520 --> 02:53:27.520 So if I were Vaga in this situation, I would play my best civilization, which for him, either Romans or Armenians, I believe. 02:53:27.520 --> 02:53:34.520 But Vaga Synxing knows about this, and he will respond with archers. 02:53:34.520 --> 02:53:43.340 So if like there is a lot of mind game can be happening okay you expected to be 02:53:43.340 --> 02:53:47.940 pushing with man-at-arms you can go archers yourself yeah you can build 02:53:47.940 --> 02:53:54.620 forward the tower for example oh just boom build towers on the base against 02:53:54.620 --> 02:54:00.420 archers and as you guys know towers do extra damage I believe against archers 02:54:00.420 --> 02:54:07.420 So, honestly, sorry, I was gonna say, we'll see what they go for. I think they use the washroom actually. 02:54:07.420 --> 02:54:10.420 So, Ayuk, please keep with your thoughts for a minute or so, I'll be right back. 02:54:13.420 --> 02:54:18.420 Okay, how foolish of him to drop his headset and just walk off the screen. 02:54:18.420 --> 02:54:24.420 Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen, there is this wonderful Ukrainian streamer that you are listening to right now. 02:54:24.420 --> 02:54:26.420 How about you drop a call again? 02:54:27.420 --> 02:54:28.420 You know what I mean? 02:54:30.420 --> 02:54:35.420 I mean, guys, he presented it to me on a golden plate! 02:54:37.420 --> 02:54:41.420 I had to take it, had to take it. Anyway, gentlemen, I hope you're having a wonderful time. 02:54:42.420 --> 02:54:48.420 I came into this tournament having zero experience in RTS games, and I had so much fun. 02:54:49.420 --> 02:54:58.420 I know that you, on average, on average, we ask every chapter, on average, you played this game for 25 years. 02:54:58.420 --> 02:55:01.740 This is nearly as long as I live. 02:55:01.740 --> 02:55:06.140 Guys, you are crazy. 02:55:06.140 --> 02:55:08.700 This game is no longer Age of Empires. 02:55:08.700 --> 02:55:11.100 This is Age of Families. 02:55:11.100 --> 02:55:16.860 Now on a serious note, can I see one in the chat if your kids are playing the game and 02:55:16.860 --> 02:55:19.660 you are playing together with your kids? 02:55:19.660 --> 02:55:21.860 I wouldn't be surprised. 02:55:21.860 --> 02:55:24.340 I wouldn't be surprised. 02:55:24.340 --> 02:55:25.340 That's insane. 02:55:25.340 --> 02:55:32.940 Age of Empires 2 community is one of the strongest that I've seen and I have to say, I felt at home. 02:55:32.940 --> 02:55:39.260 You guys are so welcoming. Thank you. Quite a lot of wands by the way. 02:55:39.260 --> 02:55:44.780 You are very welcome. Yeah, it's because the game started and ended very fast, but I am back now. 02:55:45.740 --> 02:55:49.100 Thank you, Aiyuki-san, for taking the time to fill in while I went to the washroom, 02:55:49.100 --> 02:55:53.100 but we're back now with game three. And oh my goodness, we already have a lame. 02:55:53.100 --> 02:55:57.180 Xinxing Lim, Xinxing Lim, Xinxing stole the one waga. 02:55:58.060 --> 02:56:01.260 Oh my goodness. That's BM right there. That's very BM, it's like manners. 02:56:02.620 --> 02:56:07.420 He didn't even take his cows, he went for the enemy boar. Bro, who is this guy? 02:56:08.540 --> 02:56:15.020 Like, bro, you invited me into this tournament. Oh man, it's going to be so fun. Would you like to 02:56:15.020 --> 02:56:21.580 participate? Yes, of course. And you put me against him! Bro, he's not having fun, no! 02:56:21.580 --> 02:56:22.580 No! 02:56:22.580 --> 02:56:29.320 No, Sing Sing, Sing Sing has fun when he wins and he does win quite often to be fair and 02:56:29.320 --> 02:56:33.100 he does anything it takes to win including stealing his opponent's boar. 02:56:33.100 --> 02:56:37.360 So Sing Sing has stolen Wagas' boar and a little bit of a fast forward due to the technical 02:56:37.360 --> 02:56:42.300 difficulty there but we're back now to live and Wagas like where the hell is my boar? 02:56:42.300 --> 02:56:43.900 I could have swore it was here. 02:56:43.900 --> 02:56:45.860 He might have to rely on his deer. 02:56:45.860 --> 02:56:46.860 What's for dinner? 02:56:46.860 --> 02:56:47.860 So Sing Sing is taunting him. 02:56:47.860 --> 02:56:48.860 Sing Sing is taunting him. 02:56:48.860 --> 02:56:49.860 No! 02:56:49.860 --> 02:56:50.860 That's crazy. 02:56:50.860 --> 02:56:52.860 He didn't! 02:56:52.860 --> 02:56:53.860 Brother! 02:56:53.860 --> 02:56:54.860 No pig! 02:56:54.860 --> 02:57:00.540 Okay, what does it mean for Armenians? 02:57:00.540 --> 02:57:02.340 What does it mean for Wagga? 02:57:02.340 --> 02:57:04.340 Missing 325-360 food? 02:57:04.340 --> 02:57:07.260 Yeah, no, it's a big deal. 02:57:07.260 --> 02:57:12.900 So, 340 food, now extra for Sing Sing, and that's 340 food less for Wagga. 02:57:12.900 --> 02:57:19.340 So it's a 680 food swing, and Wagga is trying to cope here, berries is very good 02:57:19.340 --> 02:57:20.340 for you. 02:57:20.340 --> 02:57:25.460 I mean listen, it's not too late to go vegan start, you know farming up go for the berries 02:57:25.460 --> 02:57:27.540 Swagga is down a bore here 02:57:27.540 --> 02:57:31.280 He does have some cows though and does have some ostriches, so he will be fine 02:57:32.140 --> 02:57:33.380 but 02:57:33.380 --> 02:57:36.060 Playing as the Armenians. I like to play that early game infantry 02:57:36.540 --> 02:57:38.540 You don't you know, you don't always 02:57:39.220 --> 02:57:45.420 Survive and and you don't always have enough res to go for that push with the long swords in that early feudal age 02:57:46.100 --> 02:57:48.780 Due to not having that bore so he could be in some trouble now 02:57:48.780 --> 02:57:55.780 with that early game rush, but I just want to mention here that Vietnamese actually have a nice bonus. 02:57:55.780 --> 02:57:58.780 They get to see the enemy location from the start of the game, by the way. 02:57:58.780 --> 02:58:03.780 So, yeah, Sing Sing was able to use that Vietnamese bonus to spot the boar instantly, 02:58:03.780 --> 02:58:06.780 and that's why Sing Sing was able to lane so fast. 02:58:06.780 --> 02:58:13.780 I understand. So, what you usually do is that you get your stuff around the base, 02:58:13.780 --> 02:58:21.780 all the pigs, all the cows, to be able to keep making villages and advance to the funeral age. 02:58:21.780 --> 02:58:24.780 But because of these bonuses, and can you showcase it once again? 02:58:24.780 --> 02:58:25.780 Yeah, of course. 02:58:25.780 --> 02:58:27.780 SingSync knew exactly where to go. 02:58:27.780 --> 02:58:31.780 And that's so high level now? 02:58:31.780 --> 02:58:32.780 Yeah, it's great. 02:58:32.780 --> 02:58:38.780 Like, he's using the bonuses that the civilization provides, and Waga probably was not expecting that. 02:58:38.780 --> 02:58:44.500 I mean, we did see Singsing lame a lot, but the speed at which he stole this boar is really fast. 02:58:44.500 --> 02:58:48.700 So I don't think Waga was expecting the speed of, you know, Singsing just coming straight across the map. 02:58:49.360 --> 02:58:55.220 But I have to say, great play from Singsing to use that bonus and steal a boar, but excellent adaptation from Waga. 02:58:55.340 --> 02:59:00.140 He is up same timing like he normally has, a little bit of idle time due to having less food. 02:59:00.140 --> 02:59:06.180 As I mentioned earlier, the rush is a bit delayed maybe, but still overall pretty decent setup here. 02:59:06.180 --> 02:59:12.700 He's going to have the Barracks come up, he's going to have the Mulecourt on the gold, 02:59:12.700 --> 02:59:15.860 and everything is more or less okay here for Waga, which is fantastic. 02:59:15.860 --> 02:59:18.780 So, we recovered from Waga and a great play from Sing Sing, 02:59:18.780 --> 02:59:22.100 but overall both players continue the game here in AD's in position. 02:59:23.940 --> 02:59:28.820 I would like to highlight Armenians, which I found a lot of fun. 02:59:28.820 --> 02:59:30.900 Can we see the Mulecourt? 02:59:30.900 --> 02:59:31.460 Yes. 02:59:31.460 --> 02:59:41.460 If you guys didn't know, Armenians have this transportable unit that can act both to gather wood, stone and gold. 02:59:41.460 --> 02:59:47.460 And if you are lucky with the map seat, you can put this thing in between gold and wood. 02:59:47.460 --> 02:59:51.460 Or it moves together with the wood line. 02:59:51.460 --> 02:59:58.460 As you guys chop through the forest, it keeps coming and you don't have to build another lumber camp. 02:59:58.460 --> 03:00:02.300 It's so much fun. If you haven't tried it already, give it a shot. 03:00:02.300 --> 03:00:10.180 Plus, if I'm correct, our Armenians have free upgrade in Feudal Age. Is that correct? 03:00:10.180 --> 03:00:12.700 No, no, that's the Bulgarians. 03:00:12.700 --> 03:00:14.500 That's the Bulgarians. 03:00:14.500 --> 03:00:19.740 That's the Bulgarians. But what Armenians have is that the fact that they have access to longsorts 03:00:19.740 --> 03:00:23.660 and they have access to all infantry upgrades one age earlier. 03:00:23.660 --> 03:00:26.100 So for example, militia here will become men of arms. 03:00:26.100 --> 03:00:32.100 Normally, Sims have to wait till Castles to get longswords, or minions can get longswords in the feudal age, which is a huge advantage. 03:00:32.100 --> 03:00:37.100 Hello, I'm sorry to interrupt. Can we see the blue dots on the base? 03:00:37.100 --> 03:00:44.100 Oh my goodness, Waga's stolen two cows back. He's stolen two cows back from Sing Sing. What's for dinner? Tell him back. 03:00:44.100 --> 03:00:48.100 What's for dinner, Waga? Oh, that would be a great taunt. 03:00:48.100 --> 03:00:54.100 I would like to highlight the fact that Sing Sing kept his scout on the barracks. 03:00:54.100 --> 03:01:02.620 This scout has been leaking the walls of the barracks, putting his ear inside the barracks to know that the push is coming. 03:01:02.620 --> 03:01:05.700 So this by no means is a surprise. 03:01:05.700 --> 03:01:13.500 And I don't see a follow-up from Vagamaga to build a tower on the gold of Singsing to deny the archer productions. 03:01:13.500 --> 03:01:15.020 Oh my goodness. 03:01:15.020 --> 03:01:18.020 There's no defense here. There's no defense. Oh my god. 03:01:18.020 --> 03:01:21.380 This is insane. Singsing is completely formal here. 03:01:21.380 --> 03:01:22.580 No way. 03:01:22.580 --> 03:01:24.820 Waga comes in, snags the villager, of course! 03:01:24.820 --> 03:01:28.020 Of course he snags the villager on the berries, long stood upgrade coming in 15 seconds. 03:01:28.020 --> 03:01:30.340 Waga was destroying the ladder with the strategy, 03:01:30.340 --> 03:01:34.820 and despite, like you said, okay, the nice wall, the archer opening from Sing Sing to counter the infantry, 03:01:34.820 --> 03:01:36.620 he just completely left his berries exposed. 03:01:36.620 --> 03:01:37.820 He did not have to do that. 03:01:37.820 --> 03:01:39.820 One villager dead right away, but... 03:01:39.820 --> 03:01:40.780 It does have the archers now. 03:01:40.780 --> 03:01:43.300 Yookson, how do you feel about defending with the archers here against the infantry? 03:01:43.300 --> 03:01:44.300 Pretty good, right? 03:01:45.220 --> 03:01:48.300 Uh, it's very annoying because you can never catch them. 03:01:48.300 --> 03:01:48.800 Yes. 03:01:48.800 --> 03:01:50.940 So, my instincts are so much... 03:01:50.940 --> 03:01:52.300 OH MY GOD! 03:01:52.300 --> 03:01:56.060 There's a hole! There's always a hole! None of these players know how to hole! 03:01:56.060 --> 03:01:59.820 11 in the chat, he's talking to him! This is terrible for Singsing! 03:01:59.820 --> 03:02:03.500 Incredible! And now, pay attention at his army split. 03:02:04.380 --> 03:02:11.820 He... Waga Maga is gonna be splitting his army in 16 different places 03:02:11.820 --> 03:02:17.420 and not going to lose a single one to the TC. This looks very grim for Singsing. 03:02:17.420 --> 03:02:21.980 This is Prime Waga. This is Prime Waga. Singsing has blundered with that hole. 03:02:21.980 --> 03:02:25.060 He's gonna relocate his woodline here, but take a look at Waga. 03:02:25.060 --> 03:02:26.860 I actually had a great call out there. 03:02:26.860 --> 03:02:30.100 Look at the splits. We did a whole video on this guy on the YouTube channel 03:02:30.100 --> 03:02:33.620 showing this amazing strategy that he dominated the rank ladder race with. 03:02:33.620 --> 03:02:35.980 He jumped to 1650 with it in just a few days, 03:02:35.980 --> 03:02:38.260 and take a look at this splitting all over the place. 03:02:38.260 --> 03:02:39.580 Sing Sing cannot keep up. 03:02:39.580 --> 03:02:41.980 He's trying to defend with archers, but there's two long shots up top. 03:02:41.980 --> 03:02:44.460 A villager goes down. There's already three villagers killed. 03:02:44.460 --> 03:02:46.460 Sing Sing is in such big trouble. 03:02:46.460 --> 03:02:48.420 He taunted earlier with the war lame, 03:02:48.420 --> 03:02:51.860 but all good that you do comes back to you and all bad that you do comes back to you. 03:02:51.860 --> 03:02:57.460 and Wagga here, with three villagers killed, Wagga is feeling great right now. 03:02:57.460 --> 03:03:06.940 Gentlemen, pay attention at the Vorker efficiency at the bottom right. While Wagamama is rampaging 03:03:06.940 --> 03:03:12.420 in the base of the Sing Sing, he's keeping up with production on his own, making it totally 03:03:12.420 --> 03:03:19.620 impossible for Sing Sing to keep up with his plans. And that means that if he's 03:03:19.620 --> 03:03:25.540 not going to make any drastic changes. This is a loss for Singsing quite quickly. 03:03:27.380 --> 03:03:29.460 Yeah, and like Singsing... I cannot believe what I'm seeing. 03:03:29.460 --> 03:03:33.060 Trying to recover, right? He's trying to recover. He's got a few farms. He's still making villagers. 03:03:33.060 --> 03:03:37.460 It's not a terrible position for Singsing. It's still playable, but it's certainly not a 03:03:37.460 --> 03:03:43.140 fun one. He loses another villager and Wagga is just so good at, you know, looping around. 03:03:43.140 --> 03:03:47.940 He'll loop around. Shout out to Yamato. Got a little looping action going on here 03:03:47.940 --> 03:03:51.220 with the long swordsman and he's finding a lot of kills. Look at that! 03:03:51.220 --> 03:03:56.140 He goes out of vision, comes back in, sinks in, has no idea they're coming back, and boom, another dead villager. 03:03:56.140 --> 03:03:58.640 Another dead villager. He's in the corner of the woods. 03:03:59.640 --> 03:04:06.840 Something that Vagadus absolutely brilliantly is that he does not attack an enemy before he's very close. 03:04:06.840 --> 03:04:15.540 He approaches those villagers from the position where they cannot run to the TC, trapping them in the wood lines. 03:04:15.540 --> 03:04:22.040 This is incredible. Something that I would absolutely love to see is a forward tower. 03:04:22.040 --> 03:04:24.060 Now, that's what I would do. 03:04:24.060 --> 03:04:27.540 Khera. Is it a good idea? Is it a bad idea? 03:04:27.540 --> 03:04:30.740 Well, let's talk about this Gold Rage first, another dead villager. 03:04:30.740 --> 03:04:35.340 And like you said, he's trapping those villagers always, looking to block their escape towards the Town Center. 03:04:35.340 --> 03:04:38.340 Singsing does have some archers behind this one. He's defending quite nicely. 03:04:38.340 --> 03:04:40.380 This is good micro from Singsing. 03:04:40.380 --> 03:04:46.300 Waga continued to push forward with some nice pressure onto this range. You talked about that tower, 03:04:46.300 --> 03:04:51.500 a tower forward here would actually be fantastic. Tower behind the woodline, forcing him away from 03:04:51.500 --> 03:04:56.540 the only safe woodline that Tinseng has access to, it would be a great strategy, Aiyuksin. However, 03:04:56.540 --> 03:05:00.780 a lot of the players are just not practicing the forward tower and therefore not really keen 03:05:00.780 --> 03:05:03.500 to pull it out. You know what I mean? They're sticking to the comfort zone. 03:05:05.100 --> 03:05:08.140 I'm honestly surprised I've lost this tournament, brother. 03:05:08.140 --> 03:05:11.580 Now he would already have three towers around his base. 03:05:11.580 --> 03:05:16.140 Yeah, you would, I think you died too early. 03:05:16.140 --> 03:05:19.340 You needed a little bit more time and you could even beat me in this tournament. 03:05:19.340 --> 03:05:22.620 With just a few more weeks of practice. We're looking quite good actually. 03:05:22.620 --> 03:05:29.500 I don't need weeks bro. Like one coaching from you, one less that you gave to Grubby 03:05:29.500 --> 03:05:33.020 and you would be in my hands. 03:05:33.020 --> 03:05:36.700 But that's why I'm coaching Grubby because I don't see the threat that he provides. 03:05:36.700 --> 03:05:42.060 Whereas you are you said I gotta be careful man. I'm working. This is my salary. I can't just give up my position is number one here 03:05:42.860 --> 03:05:47.420 Speaking of positioning though. This is fantastic wagas coming back in again 03:05:48.020 --> 03:05:51.940 Always just so hard to deal with take a look at things that he sees the men arms come in or the long suits 03:05:51.940 --> 03:05:57.020 Excuse me, but he's chasing this one. He's chasing shadows right now. This guy goes out of vision 03:05:57.020 --> 03:06:02.820 There's two look around split. It's crazy. I'm starting to think wagas playing for the six hands 03:06:02.980 --> 03:06:04.980 It's crazy. How does he do this? 03:06:04.980 --> 03:06:07.780 He's all around, look at this. 03:06:07.780 --> 03:06:10.620 I bet he has zero control groups. 03:06:10.620 --> 03:06:14.500 I've watched so many hours on his stream, zero control groups. 03:06:14.500 --> 03:06:15.940 Can you believe that? 03:06:15.940 --> 03:06:21.180 He's drag select every single group of these units. 03:06:21.180 --> 03:06:24.140 He's just working twice as hard and he's making it work somehow. 03:06:24.140 --> 03:06:27.860 Look at this, knocking on the back wall, he will break in here, knocking on the 03:06:27.860 --> 03:06:30.220 range just to distract Singsing. 03:06:30.220 --> 03:06:33.900 Singsing repairs the range, forgets about the wall, Singsing does not see this, 03:06:33.900 --> 03:06:37.440 chasing shadows he's gonna fight them at arms down here sorry the longsword I 03:06:37.440 --> 03:06:41.700 keep forgetting but all the quick wall no way the quick wall reaction but of 03:06:41.700 --> 03:06:45.520 course it does mean they say lose some archers up top waga is all over 03:06:45.520 --> 03:06:52.200 syncing guys way this is crazy swagger mama managing economy banking 03:06:52.200 --> 03:06:58.840 villagers of raiding and not losing a single unit to the TC honestly I would 03:06:58.840 --> 03:07:04.520 build a monument in the name of Waga. That's impressive. He is what I dreamed to become. 03:07:07.160 --> 03:07:11.560 Quite the inspirational story here from Waga. Will you find the next generation of 03:07:11.560 --> 03:07:15.000 men of armed rushers? Ayuki said of course, you wouldn't just become him. You'd become him, 03:07:15.000 --> 03:07:18.840 but better with that tower follow up. But I have to say, even without the tower, 03:07:19.400 --> 03:07:24.280 Waga's done so much damage. He's going to go in for the farm villager. No freaking way. 03:07:24.280 --> 03:07:28.920 He's nice in low HP farm villager eight kills syncing it's completely 03:07:28.920 --> 03:07:32.760 flustered and there's a hole on the woodline there's a hole in the woodline 03:07:32.760 --> 03:07:36.440 lag is coming in syncing walls though syncing walls holy 03:07:36.440 --> 03:07:40.200 he doesn't oh still open though it's still open 03:07:40.200 --> 03:07:46.360 I mean if bro if I am those longswords I would squeal in between those trees for 03:07:46.360 --> 03:07:50.600 sure and he's gonna pass through the way so bad 03:07:50.600 --> 03:07:58.820 I am proud to cast this. It's so exciting. This gameplay gives me chills. This gameplay 03:07:58.820 --> 03:08:06.200 keeps me alive. Brother, I kid you not, today my wife said I was talking in my sleep. She 03:08:06.200 --> 03:08:16.720 said you said two words. Forward castle! She said you are cooked, bro. This game is 03:08:16.720 --> 03:08:18.720 It's not healthy. 03:08:18.720 --> 03:08:20.720 It's consuming you, Aeuston. 03:08:20.720 --> 03:08:22.720 But why Forward Castle and not Forward Tower? 03:08:22.720 --> 03:08:24.720 I feel like you've never done a Forward Castle in your life. 03:08:26.720 --> 03:08:28.720 I see the vision in my dreams. 03:08:28.720 --> 03:08:30.720 Oh, okay. It's coming. 03:08:30.720 --> 03:08:32.720 It's coming. The Forward Castle is coming. 03:08:32.720 --> 03:08:34.720 The dream is a premonition, maybe. 03:08:34.720 --> 03:08:36.720 But so far, the only thing that's coming is Wagamama's launchers. 03:08:36.720 --> 03:08:38.720 Look at this. Another villager goes down. 03:08:38.720 --> 03:08:40.720 It's just 11 kills. 03:08:40.720 --> 03:08:42.720 Dead. 03:08:42.720 --> 03:08:44.720 Villagers just walking all over the place. 03:08:44.720 --> 03:08:52.000 is all over Singsing and I have to say Singsing here besides that hole has played a decent defense a lot of players on the rank ladder 03:08:52.000 --> 03:08:55.900 Would already resign at this point Singsing is holding on he's playing a lot of archer defense 03:08:55.900 --> 03:09:01.120 But Wagamama ladies and gents is almost up to cast lich in fact. He should be clicking anytime now 03:09:01.400 --> 03:09:08.080 He killed a bunch of villagers 15 villager kills now cast lich coming in and Wagas looking to close this game out in 03:09:08.360 --> 03:09:14.380 Good style what a game what a play and what a pressure from Wagamama's Armenians despite being a bored down 03:09:14.380 --> 03:09:16.800 He's all over Singsing and it's a beauty to see 03:09:18.500 --> 03:09:20.260 He took his board 03:09:20.260 --> 03:09:25.660 But since like Vaga is going to take this map for himself. Yeah, and if you guys ever tried to 03:09:25.940 --> 03:09:28.180 Play in such aggressive manner yourself 03:09:28.220 --> 03:09:35.140 You know how difficult it is to manage your economy and we can clearly see this from the start of idle TC 03:09:35.420 --> 03:09:38.700 almost seven minutes of not making villagers and 03:09:40.180 --> 03:09:42.180 That would be a strategy 03:09:42.180 --> 03:09:51.980 It would be over, but having killed 16 villagers, this is very, very, very good. 03:09:51.980 --> 03:09:57.180 I have to say though, this game is not 100% over for Sing Sing. Let me tell you guys a story here. 03:09:57.180 --> 03:10:03.580 I'm not saying he's in a win, I'm not saying he's even close to coming back, but in a world where you get up to Cassage in the next couple minutes, 03:10:03.580 --> 03:10:08.280 and he just defends with archers and really turtles, there is a world where you can just get to Crossbowmen, 03:10:08.280 --> 03:10:11.480 and crossbows do kind of counter this unit, especially when you get Ballistics. 03:10:11.480 --> 03:10:14.720 So, in theory, a Singsing is very far behind, of course, 03:10:14.720 --> 03:10:18.520 but there is a small glimmer of hope for our Singsing. 03:10:18.880 --> 03:10:21.880 Maybe he can just maybe hold on, but it is looking tough. 03:10:21.880 --> 03:10:23.440 Maybe the Castlege will finish him off here. 03:10:23.440 --> 03:10:26.000 Waga still lurking in the shadows 03:10:26.000 --> 03:10:30.640 and will wait for the Castlege to finish before looking for a proper engagement here. 03:10:32.240 --> 03:10:37.480 Would you love to see Waga bringing a little bit of the economy onto the stone 03:10:37.480 --> 03:10:40.820 to finish this with the forward castle. 03:10:40.820 --> 03:10:43.760 Trying to make your dream a reality, Aiksen. I like it. 03:10:43.760 --> 03:10:45.360 I don't think you need a forward castle here. 03:10:45.360 --> 03:10:47.560 I think what I'd like to see instead of the forward castle is just 03:10:47.560 --> 03:10:51.360 extra upgrades on the infantry and maybe a forward siege workshop. 03:10:51.360 --> 03:10:54.280 But he's gonna go, yeah, two and a tranches is fantastic. This is great. 03:10:54.280 --> 03:10:58.200 If I'm correct, once those upgrades... Oh my God! 03:10:58.200 --> 03:11:01.080 Guys, he's going to nuke the TC, I think. 03:11:01.080 --> 03:11:04.880 I was told by the coaches, you get these upgrades, 03:11:04.880 --> 03:11:07.280 You see this blue-white thingy? 03:11:07.280 --> 03:11:09.780 You get that, you go under TCGG. 03:11:09.780 --> 03:11:14.480 If we spot a few villagers forward for the siege workshop, 03:11:14.480 --> 03:11:18.380 that means Vanga is preparing to end this game on the spot. 03:11:18.380 --> 03:11:20.780 Yeah, Singsing's up to Castlage, one minute and a half to go. 03:11:20.780 --> 03:11:22.280 He needs to buy a lot of time here. 03:11:22.280 --> 03:11:23.980 Vaga could go for the Townsend now. 03:11:23.980 --> 03:11:25.080 It is a legitimate option. 03:11:25.080 --> 03:11:26.580 He's going to get 200 swordsmen. 03:11:26.580 --> 03:11:28.980 These are Imperial Age units in Castlage, 03:11:28.980 --> 03:11:29.780 due to the Armenians. 03:11:29.780 --> 03:11:31.680 You could actually get Champions, by the way. 03:11:31.680 --> 03:11:34.080 You could get Champions in Castlage if you want. 03:11:34.080 --> 03:11:37.200 the final imp upgrade on these swordsmen we did a castle 03:11:37.200 --> 03:11:41.440 take over the town center it's time to sing Gigi's called the men have arrived 03:11:41.440 --> 03:11:44.960 and Wagga takes game two well oh game game three excuse me 03:11:44.960 --> 03:11:49.840 well played Gigi for him holy i cannot believe it 03:11:49.840 --> 03:11:53.840 this is incredible down a bore down a bore 03:11:53.840 --> 03:11:58.240 goes to the town center he pressures sing he tells him it's time 03:11:58.240 --> 03:12:02.400 Wagga is now one game away from knocking out a sing-sing 03:12:02.400 --> 03:12:08.160 who many people consider the dark horse of the losers bracket, but if I know anything about Sincsteen, 03:12:08.160 --> 03:12:13.600 he's not going to give up to the last moment. He still has a chance to reverse this on to Waga 03:12:13.600 --> 03:12:18.480 and to win the last two maps, but it's due or die now for Sincsteen. He has one match, 03:12:18.480 --> 03:12:23.760 one map away from losing the entire tournament and getting knocked out by his teammate or his 03:12:23.760 --> 03:12:30.240 former teammate, Waga Mama. Crazy, crazy storyline here. I would like to point out 03:12:30.240 --> 03:12:38.640 that vaga maga has played the same strategy he played on the ladder everybody knows what he's going 03:12:38.640 --> 03:12:44.400 to do you ask your grandma what vaga is going to play she's going to say she's going to play 03:12:44.400 --> 03:12:51.200 armenians manate arborars at minute eight everybody knows about this but having mastered his craft 03:12:51.200 --> 03:12:54.800 He managed to knock down Singsing. 03:12:54.800 --> 03:13:00.600 With counter archers, he did what he knows the best. 03:13:00.600 --> 03:13:02.200 This is impressive. 03:13:05.000 --> 03:13:10.400 Wow. While I go to the bathroom, now you take over, Broga. 03:13:10.400 --> 03:13:11.400 Perfect. 03:13:12.600 --> 03:13:15.400 I'm playing some ads now, between the games. 03:13:15.400 --> 03:13:18.200 I'm so sorry about those getting ads during the games. 03:13:18.800 --> 03:13:20.000 I'm trying my best guys. 03:13:20.000 --> 03:13:22.540 between games I have to eat, I have to go to the bathroom to play ads. 03:13:22.540 --> 03:13:27.040 There's a lot of things that need to happen, but I am trying my best. 03:13:27.040 --> 03:13:30.040 It's the first time that I'm running an event, so if things are not perfect, 03:13:30.040 --> 03:13:32.420 I ask you guys to bear with me, but I do appreciate the feedback. 03:13:32.420 --> 03:13:34.420 I am genuinely trying my best. 03:13:34.420 --> 03:13:36.420 We're waiting for the next match to start. 03:13:36.420 --> 03:13:38.420 We can see both cameras here. 03:13:38.420 --> 03:13:41.920 They're locked into thinking, Singsing has a very important decision to make. 03:13:41.920 --> 03:13:44.040 What map does he go for on this next game? 03:13:44.040 --> 03:13:45.040 Does he go Arabia? 03:13:45.040 --> 03:13:47.040 Does he go back to arena? 03:13:47.040 --> 03:13:51.800 It's Sing Sing's home map, and Waga is just waiting for the decision now. Let's see. 03:13:55.720 --> 03:13:56.560 See how it plays out. 03:13:58.360 --> 03:13:59.560 No lobby yet though. 03:14:00.600 --> 03:14:03.880 How many viewers do we have by the way? Oh my goodness. I think this might be a record. 03:14:04.120 --> 03:14:09.880 Over 5,000 on YouTube, over 12,000 on Twitch. This is fantastic. Let's just do this. 03:14:10.120 --> 03:14:16.440 Type a 1 in the chat because I'm having a good time enjoying the King's Gauntlet, enjoying some Age of Empires too on a fine Saturday. 03:14:16.440 --> 03:14:21.960 Of course, this is the King's Gauntlet Day 3, we have today, and we have tomorrow, which 03:14:21.960 --> 03:14:26.740 will be the last day, and I also want to remind you guys that we have on Monday, due to an 03:14:26.740 --> 03:14:34.120 anonymous donator that has put $7,000 plus anonymously, we have team games on Monday. 03:14:34.120 --> 03:14:38.300 So after the events, I'm going to put these players, the same players from the tournaments, 03:14:38.300 --> 03:14:40.920 up against each other in a 4v4 or a 3v3. 03:14:40.920 --> 03:14:41.920 How cool is that? 03:14:41.920 --> 03:14:43.540 That is fantastic. 03:14:43.540 --> 03:14:44.540 People were asking about team games. 03:14:44.540 --> 03:14:48.620 We're gonna have it due to the anonymous donator that pledged seven thousand dollars to the event 03:14:48.620 --> 03:14:52.020 So when I tell you guys that the support for the event has been off the charts 03:14:52.020 --> 03:14:56.840 I mean super off the charts and you guys watching every single one of you is 03:14:57.380 --> 03:15:02.900 Really contributing to making this event a success and already it's a massive success. So thank you all for being here 03:15:02.900 --> 03:15:06.500 Thank you all for enjoying the show and I feel like I'm like the biggest fan 03:15:06.500 --> 03:15:11.700 I think I'm enjoying the show the most like I was just having such a good time and normally you're thinking about like I 03:15:11.700 --> 03:15:15.360 I need to make sure I'm casting well, okay, let's make sure I'm getting the right comments in 03:15:15.440 --> 03:15:20.640 But I'm just literally watching this as a fan first and foremost which makes things awesome on my side of things as well 03:15:20.640 --> 03:15:25.280 I still don't have the lobby code by the way, so I guess they still haven't hosted 03:15:25.760 --> 03:15:27.960 Let me try to give them a bump here just to see if 03:15:31.480 --> 03:15:37.720 Just see if they can they started already they're playing they are already playing I don't have a code. This is crazy 03:15:37.720 --> 03:15:50.160 crazy. This is crazy. I need a code. I need a code. Um, well that's one way to kill the 03:15:50.160 --> 03:16:02.080 momentum. Um, all right. Uh, normally a chatter or someone gives me the code, but looks to 03:16:02.080 --> 03:16:09.080 the dashboard 03:16:23.000 --> 03:16:27.560 i think i think roxy roxy actually told me how to do it 03:16:27.560 --> 03:16:28.920 Oh my goodness, Roxy's the goal. 03:16:28.920 --> 03:16:33.920 Oh my, the wifey, with the frickin' tips. 03:16:34.560 --> 03:16:35.360 How do you even know this? 03:16:35.360 --> 03:16:36.400 How do I not know this? 03:16:36.400 --> 03:16:39.320 This is fantastic, it's a technical difficulty 03:16:39.320 --> 03:16:41.320 but we're hopping back in, this is crazy. 03:16:42.360 --> 03:16:44.800 Roxy with the frickin' tips. 03:16:44.800 --> 03:16:46.720 And we're going right in. 03:16:46.720 --> 03:16:49.000 And here we are guys, ladies and gents, 03:16:49.000 --> 03:16:50.560 we're hopping back into this game 03:16:50.560 --> 03:16:52.480 and it's gonna be Arabia. 03:16:52.480 --> 03:16:56.480 Wow, Singsing brings Wagamama back to Arabia. 03:16:56.480 --> 03:17:01.120 Singsings playing the trusted Magyars, but Wagamama is playing his Romans. 03:17:01.120 --> 03:17:05.000 Dude, the Romans are very, very strong. 03:17:05.000 --> 03:17:06.760 We've seen the infantry from the Armenians. 03:17:06.760 --> 03:17:11.800 The Romans were the second best civilization for the Wagamama on the rank ladder. 03:17:11.800 --> 03:17:15.520 Magyars have also been very, very solid as well in their own right for Singsing. 03:17:15.520 --> 03:17:18.760 He won a game against Uthermul on Redisette Fortress using the Magyars. 03:17:18.760 --> 03:17:19.760 We've all seen it. 03:17:19.760 --> 03:17:22.200 He's got excellent Cavarter micro as well. 03:17:22.200 --> 03:17:27.800 See if Singsing can make use of the Magyars here and somehow defend against the Romans from Waga. 03:17:28.800 --> 03:17:33.400 What a fantastic series this has been so far. Great play from both Sings and Waga. 03:17:33.600 --> 03:17:38.300 They both, I think, overperformed in their own rights on different games. 03:17:38.500 --> 03:17:41.500 And now we're in a must-win situation for Singsing. 03:17:41.800 --> 03:17:43.900 But if Waga wins, he wins the set. 03:17:43.900 --> 03:17:45.700 It's going to start by walling off a little bit here. 03:17:45.900 --> 03:17:49.000 A little unorthodox to be doing that, but his map is a little strange. 03:17:49.000 --> 03:17:53.000 He's got that massive Woodlunt in the front, so he's got to make use of that by walling up a little bit. 03:17:53.000 --> 03:17:58.000 So far, so good. He'll go to the back and grab some of those chickens. 03:17:58.000 --> 03:18:02.000 Very lovely chickens. He actually has all the chickens the same color, by the way, which is interesting. 03:18:02.000 --> 03:18:05.000 Normally, they're a bit of a mix. Yeah, Waga, look at that. 03:18:05.000 --> 03:18:10.000 Looks like a yellow chicken, a brown yellow chicken purist. 03:18:10.000 --> 03:18:14.000 I think the RNG on that is pretty low, even though it doesn't matter at all for the game. 03:18:14.000 --> 03:18:16.000 It's only aesthetic, of course. 03:18:16.000 --> 03:18:20.480 But Wagah here. Welcome back. 03:18:20.480 --> 03:18:21.840 With a cool question. 03:18:21.840 --> 03:18:22.880 Oh, perfect. 03:18:22.880 --> 03:18:26.400 Magyars is the archer save, right? 03:18:26.400 --> 03:18:30.880 Magyars is a cavalry or cavalry archer save. 03:18:30.880 --> 03:18:35.040 It can do pretty much everything, but I would say it's primarily a cavalry save, I would say, yeah. 03:18:35.040 --> 03:18:38.880 So what would be the opening for Sing Sing, you think? 03:18:38.880 --> 03:18:41.920 Which units, military units, come out first? 03:18:41.920 --> 03:18:44.880 So Sing Sing with the Magyars, historically in the Rank Ladder race, 03:18:44.880 --> 03:18:48.720 was playing a lot of Scout Rush. In fact, I think he should open with a Scout Rush here with the 03:18:48.720 --> 03:18:55.120 Maggers. It's the best way to take advantage of their military bonus. They get free attack 03:18:55.120 --> 03:19:00.880 upgrades on Cavalry, and they also get cheaper Scouts. So Maggers are actually very powerful 03:19:00.880 --> 03:19:05.280 with their double bonus Scout Rush. However, the Romans, we know the Romans are the most 03:19:05.280 --> 03:19:10.560 played civilization in this tournament so far, and Romans have a great double armor infantry 03:19:10.560 --> 03:19:12.360 three-man arm rush in the early game. 03:19:12.360 --> 03:19:14.960 So both players have good strategies for the early game. 03:19:14.960 --> 03:19:16.720 But Singsing's up first at the feudal age. 03:19:16.720 --> 03:19:20.400 They're going to get started with some scouts, most likely. 03:19:20.400 --> 03:19:27.280 If I'm correct, you cannot produce scouts until feudal 03:19:27.280 --> 03:19:30.680 age, while Singsing could potentially 03:19:30.680 --> 03:19:35.040 has prepared his army, starting in the Dark Age, 03:19:35.040 --> 03:19:36.600 using the barracks. 03:19:36.600 --> 03:19:45.000 So, if the timing is perfect, that would give a little bit of an advantage to Vaga, and 03:19:45.000 --> 03:19:50.240 before those scouts come out, he would already have the army on the hands of the... 03:19:50.240 --> 03:19:52.660 Yeah, that's actually a fantastic commentary, Aiyuksen. 03:19:52.660 --> 03:19:55.600 I just want to let you know that I know you might think that you don't know much about 03:19:55.600 --> 03:19:58.600 the game, but you actually know quite a bit in your three weeks of grind. 03:19:58.600 --> 03:19:59.600 I'm very impressed with that. 03:19:59.600 --> 03:20:01.320 It's spot-on commentary here. 03:20:01.320 --> 03:20:04.440 Vaga, despite being a little slower to fuel it, can prepare his militia in 03:20:04.440 --> 03:20:07.440 you'll see you make the barracks right away with the militia production, 03:20:07.440 --> 03:20:11.440 whereas in the feudal age here, if you make the barracks, house, 03:20:11.440 --> 03:20:12.440 then you're going to see the stable. 03:20:12.440 --> 03:20:15.440 And only once the stable is built can Waga, sorry, 03:20:15.440 --> 03:20:16.440 can Singsing make the scout. 03:20:16.440 --> 03:20:18.440 And so, excellent points. 03:20:18.440 --> 03:20:20.440 So despite the feudal age time coming in a little later, 03:20:20.440 --> 03:20:23.440 Waga might be the guy attacking here if he wants to, with his army. 03:20:25.440 --> 03:20:29.440 Something that I haven't seen Waga do a lot is rolling. 03:20:29.440 --> 03:20:37.080 falling. I can expect him to be playing it very defensive. Do Romans have any advantage 03:20:37.080 --> 03:20:39.080 whatsoever to play defensive? 03:20:39.080 --> 03:20:43.280 Yeah, you got tons of options, of course. You have the Metaarm Rush that likes to play 03:20:43.280 --> 03:20:46.840 offensive, of course, initially, but then after that, once you pick up the armor for the 03:20:46.840 --> 03:20:51.400 Metaarms, the armor still helps defensive spearmen. So you can put defensive spears 03:20:51.400 --> 03:20:56.560 with plus two armor on all your exposed resources. Very, very strong defensive option. You 03:20:56.560 --> 03:21:00.320 You can always make a tower, as well as the walls that we see here from Waga Mama. 03:21:00.320 --> 03:21:04.280 So a lot of defensive options from Waga here, they can easily come out and help him out 03:21:04.280 --> 03:21:06.720 on defense versus those pesky Magyars. 03:21:06.720 --> 03:21:10.920 So Scouts on the field for Sing Sing, or Scouts starting to come out onto the field now. 03:21:10.920 --> 03:21:15.320 I love the building locations for Sing Sing, except I think that's a little too close 03:21:15.320 --> 03:21:16.400 to the gold. 03:21:16.400 --> 03:21:19.680 But besides that, this house is perfect for the wall. 03:21:19.680 --> 03:21:23.560 Barracks beautifully placed, house walling perfectly to protect the berries as well. 03:21:23.560 --> 03:21:25.040 So Sing Sing is setting up his map correctly. 03:21:25.040 --> 03:21:26.040 But here we go. 03:21:26.040 --> 03:21:28.840 The first one to attack with his militia. 03:21:30.120 --> 03:21:33.840 I'm now starting to see the power of Walling from Waga. 03:21:33.840 --> 03:21:40.040 Since he has Mangirs, he probably knows that those are the Scouts. 03:21:40.040 --> 03:21:47.240 And so by making up Walls, he wins time for himself, not to get easily sniped. 03:21:47.240 --> 03:21:51.440 Basically protecting himself from what he did to Sing Sing. 03:21:51.440 --> 03:21:55.840 I just want to say here, Romans have had an incredibly high win rate on the ranked ladder 03:21:55.840 --> 03:21:58.320 and on the term it so far 03:21:58.320 --> 03:22:02.260 uh... syncing if you win this game which he has to be very impressive and he's 03:22:02.260 --> 03:22:04.240 gonna look to take this fight here there's a militia 03:22:04.240 --> 03:22:07.360 great time from syncing but they're about to become an arms is it good enough 03:22:07.360 --> 03:22:10.600 the armor's not in all my goodness syncing has found a beautiful timing 03:22:10.600 --> 03:22:13.680 the armor's just now in the ladies and gentlemen there's no more men arms 03:22:13.680 --> 03:22:14.520 wow 03:22:14.520 --> 03:22:15.280 pixel 03:22:15.280 --> 03:22:16.760 perfect timing 03:22:16.760 --> 03:22:20.120 from syncing and he clears up the men arms the entire rush is dead and 03:22:20.120 --> 03:22:21.580 syncing now the counterattack 03:22:21.580 --> 03:22:25.200 do just as i say how impressive would be to hold the romans he thinks a 03:22:25.200 --> 03:22:30.160 a beautiful fight, literally a second before Waga's men and arms come in. 03:22:30.160 --> 03:22:33.860 Beautiful, beautiful engagement from Singsing, now he's the guy attacking, fantastic. 03:22:34.860 --> 03:22:38.700 Have Waga delayed the fight for like 10 seconds? 03:22:38.700 --> 03:22:42.200 I think it would have been over, and now men and arms would be 03:22:42.200 --> 03:22:44.360 rank-patching on the Singsing's base again. 03:22:44.360 --> 03:22:48.700 But the situation is changing. 03:22:49.360 --> 03:22:50.360 More men and arms coming? 03:22:50.360 --> 03:22:51.100 We have. 03:22:51.100 --> 03:22:53.700 Waga's not going defensive spirit, he actually wants to attack again. 03:22:53.700 --> 03:22:55.160 He wants to attack again, it's crazy. 03:22:55.160 --> 03:23:01.160 Yeah, one more minute of arms into production and those guys are marching forward. 03:23:01.160 --> 03:23:03.160 And it makes sense, right? Because it's got the walls. 03:23:03.160 --> 03:23:06.160 You see the vision now, Aikson, right? The walls to defend yourself? 03:23:06.160 --> 03:23:07.160 Yes. 03:23:07.160 --> 03:23:09.160 All the army forward? It makes a lot of sense. 03:23:09.160 --> 03:23:11.160 Singsing is looking for something, but... 03:23:11.160 --> 03:23:12.160 Impressive. 03:23:12.160 --> 03:23:14.160 Yeah, super impressive from Wagas. 03:23:14.160 --> 03:23:16.160 He's gonna go across the map here with four men of arms. 03:23:16.160 --> 03:23:19.160 Singsing, what's the reply? He's gonna make more scuff cavalry for the time being. 03:23:19.160 --> 03:23:25.320 really get some pressure on but he hasn't really been able to do much against Waga's defense here. 03:23:25.320 --> 03:23:30.120 Nice walls and the town center kills the scouts and now it's all Waga on the offensive with the men arms. 03:23:31.480 --> 03:23:35.080 Can we switch to the POV from Waga? I want to see what he sees right now. 03:23:35.960 --> 03:23:42.200 Okay, so he doesn't really know that the back of the map is not walled and I can totally see 03:23:42.200 --> 03:23:47.000 him at some point, discover this weakness as the back of the base from Sing Sing is just 03:23:47.000 --> 03:23:54.760 Yeah, good body block there from Singsing, but as you said, the back is open, it could 03:23:54.760 --> 03:23:58.480 be walled pretty easily, but I don't even think Singsing knows that he can wall that easily, 03:23:58.480 --> 03:24:02.600 he doesn't see the wood line, of course we see everything as easy as the caster perspective. 03:24:02.600 --> 03:24:05.880 Singsing only with some scouts in the field, but there's no spearmen here, so scouts 03:24:05.880 --> 03:24:08.840 can fight this, but only if they take a good engagement. 03:24:08.840 --> 03:24:11.880 Wagga is watching out though, he's paying attention with the military, I think 03:24:11.880 --> 03:24:15.280 we need more scouts here. 03:24:15.280 --> 03:24:20.240 Think about scouts, they do not have an upgrade to give them extra HP. 03:24:20.240 --> 03:24:27.400 So I've noticed that only now does Sing Sing put 2 on gold and until then it was only food 03:24:27.400 --> 03:24:28.400 and mood. 03:24:28.400 --> 03:24:37.720 Since you don't need gold to produce horses, it's only food, I believe 80. 03:24:37.720 --> 03:24:43.520 He does not have upgrades on the scouts, so they aren't in the front time yet. 03:24:43.520 --> 03:24:47.160 If you get Bloodlines, of course, doing extra HP, but without that upgrade, it's gonna be 03:24:47.160 --> 03:24:51.100 so hard to fight these Roman men-arms that have the extra armor. 03:24:51.100 --> 03:24:54.020 Even with the Hill Advantage, you just couldn't quite find the fight. 03:24:54.020 --> 03:24:56.420 Singsing is in a kind of bad position here. 03:24:56.420 --> 03:24:58.820 He picked off one more, which is quite nice. 03:24:58.820 --> 03:25:02.660 He's trying to use his micro advantage with those scouts and that extra mobility. 03:25:02.660 --> 03:25:05.340 That's kind of cleared up now, though, but there's another men-arm that's come 03:25:05.340 --> 03:25:09.000 to join his brother-in-arms. 03:25:09.000 --> 03:25:10.000 More scouts coming out. 03:25:10.000 --> 03:25:12.000 I want floodlands to come in for sing sing 03:25:13.240 --> 03:25:17.760 Do you know how how much food does it require to produce one minute arms? 03:25:17.800 --> 03:25:25.140 Yeah, so it's 50 food and 20 gold for each minute arm and it's 68 food for the scouts for maggers 03:25:25.140 --> 03:25:27.240 Oh, there's a hole. Oh my god. Oh my god 03:25:28.960 --> 03:25:32.940 No, it's normally a food but maggers get a discount so 68 for them 03:25:32.940 --> 03:25:39.940 Okay, so the one-to-one trades are very much on the hands of Singh Singh. 03:25:39.940 --> 03:25:41.940 Yeah, it's pretty even. 03:25:41.940 --> 03:25:42.940 I would say it's pretty even. 03:25:42.940 --> 03:25:43.940 It's not much cheaper. 03:25:43.940 --> 03:25:46.940 It's 70 researches for the Meta Arm and 68 for the Scout. 03:25:46.940 --> 03:25:50.940 So it's about even, actually, I would say, in terms of total research expense. 03:25:50.940 --> 03:25:52.940 No villager has died yet, by the way, which is a miracle. 03:25:52.940 --> 03:25:54.940 It's a miracle, but in comes the spear. 03:25:54.940 --> 03:25:56.940 Once the spear comes, you cannot fight this army. 03:25:56.940 --> 03:25:57.940 Lag is in a good position. 03:25:57.940 --> 03:25:59.940 Lag is in a very good position here. 03:25:59.940 --> 03:26:00.940 Wow. 03:26:00.940 --> 03:26:06.940 I cannot believe that a man can perform the same trick over and over again and be this successful. 03:26:08.440 --> 03:26:10.440 Now what I would like him to... 03:26:10.940 --> 03:26:16.940 What I would love to see from him is the discoverability on the back of Woodline. 03:26:17.440 --> 03:26:20.940 I'm seeing those villagers and I'm licking my lips bro. 03:26:21.940 --> 03:26:22.940 Which ones? 03:26:24.440 --> 03:26:25.440 Woodline of Sing Sing. 03:26:25.440 --> 03:26:27.440 Oh yeah, these ones here, yeah of course. 03:26:27.440 --> 03:26:29.440 Oh my... oh... 03:26:29.440 --> 03:26:35.060 Super juicy. But you can't really get there. Second stable and that's on Walsh from 03:26:35.060 --> 03:26:38.800 Syncing, so you should have blocked that woodland off. I think Syncing's fine, but 03:26:38.800 --> 03:26:41.800 him committing to double stable scouts with Bloodlands is a very interesting 03:26:41.800 --> 03:26:45.160 choice, but we're talking about this Bloodlands tech. It's super super useful 03:26:45.160 --> 03:26:48.700 for the scouts. It's going to give them each plus 20 HP, putting them at a 03:26:48.700 --> 03:26:52.680 total of 65. You need this upgrade if you want to fight the infantry long-term. 03:26:52.680 --> 03:26:55.760 Syncing keeps going back to these berries, but you cannot really fight 03:26:55.760 --> 03:27:01.760 these berries. We need to wait for Bloodlands. I think Sing Sing is trying to go in here. 03:27:01.760 --> 03:27:04.760 He's not Wagar off the ground though. 03:27:04.760 --> 03:27:11.760 Yeah, Wagar has his military on stand ground, so they do not attack immediately. And because 03:27:11.760 --> 03:27:14.760 of that, Sing Sing was able to get a couple of hits for free. 03:27:14.760 --> 03:27:19.760 Still, not the best fight for Sing Sing. Like Sing Sing clears it up, but also Wagar 03:27:19.760 --> 03:27:22.760 killed a few scouts. Bloodlands is now in, so now the scouts are going to be 03:27:22.760 --> 03:27:24.560 Scouts are going to be the strongest they've ever been. 03:27:24.560 --> 03:27:25.560 It's Men-Armed Flood. 03:27:25.560 --> 03:27:27.260 It's Men-Armed Spam from Wagga. 03:27:27.260 --> 03:27:28.260 Two Barracks for him. 03:27:28.260 --> 03:27:29.660 A lot of Scouts on the field. 03:27:29.660 --> 03:27:32.160 I'd like to see Singsing get away from those berries. 03:27:32.160 --> 03:27:33.160 You don't need these berries. 03:27:33.160 --> 03:27:34.660 You can just make farms at the back. 03:27:34.660 --> 03:27:35.660 You can send them to Wood. 03:27:35.660 --> 03:27:37.100 You've got options here. 03:27:37.100 --> 03:27:39.980 Him being on the front of the berries is so risky and he might get punished by these 03:27:39.980 --> 03:27:40.980 Men-Arms. 03:27:40.980 --> 03:27:43.980 Oh, Wagga doesn't see. 03:27:43.980 --> 03:27:44.980 Wag... 03:27:44.980 --> 03:27:45.980 Oh, he sees it now. 03:27:45.980 --> 03:27:50.980 Previously, Wagga has destroyed the building. 03:27:50.980 --> 03:27:51.980 Just the house. 03:27:51.980 --> 03:27:55.380 Why not target, let's say, a windmill? 03:27:55.380 --> 03:27:59.580 Yeah, I think you should target the windmill, in my opinion, actually. 03:27:59.580 --> 03:28:00.460 Hitting a house is nice. 03:28:00.460 --> 03:28:02.180 I think you want to break in and go to the other side. 03:28:02.180 --> 03:28:04.580 But I think, in general, hitting the stable, hitting the windmill, 03:28:04.580 --> 03:28:06.980 is definitely a good option. 03:28:06.980 --> 03:28:09.140 Singsing is saving up for the castlights, by the way. 03:28:09.140 --> 03:28:10.540 He now has bloodline scouts. 03:28:10.540 --> 03:28:12.380 They perform quite well into these meta arms. 03:28:12.380 --> 03:28:13.780 You need to fight with all the meta arms. 03:28:13.780 --> 03:28:14.860 You're going to kill these guys. 03:28:14.860 --> 03:28:17.140 The spearmen, though, heavy, heavy counter to the scouts 03:28:17.140 --> 03:28:17.740 at this point. 03:28:17.740 --> 03:28:29.360 I think this fight is in favor of Vwaga, I think the spearman is going to tank too much. 03:28:29.360 --> 03:28:33.780 There's so many metal arms, sink sinks, they get a disastrous fight, disastrous fight right 03:28:33.780 --> 03:28:34.780 before Castle Age. 03:28:34.780 --> 03:28:35.780 That's not what you need. 03:28:35.780 --> 03:28:36.780 There's a hole. 03:28:36.780 --> 03:28:37.780 I'm going to pass that hole. 03:28:37.780 --> 03:28:38.780 Okay. 03:28:38.780 --> 03:28:39.780 Oh my goodness. 03:28:39.780 --> 03:28:40.780 This is so epic. 03:28:40.780 --> 03:28:41.780 It's so intense. 03:28:41.780 --> 03:28:42.780 He'll go for the stable. 03:28:42.780 --> 03:28:44.940 Are you saying he'll go for the stable? 03:28:44.940 --> 03:28:54.940 I want to sync right now to snipe the reinforcements. Having advantage in the mobility, he can make sure that these guys that are being sent one by one by one by one. 03:28:54.940 --> 03:29:03.940 I'm never going to make it to the base. And we've syncing sync Mikro his villagers perfectly under pressure. 03:29:03.940 --> 03:29:11.940 So instead of throwing themselves at this huge group, I would make sure that it does not get bigger. 03:29:11.940 --> 03:29:16.500 Oh, a stack patrol downhill! Stack patrol downhill! These guys know all the tricks! 03:29:17.300 --> 03:29:18.500 But he's kind of messed it up! 03:29:18.500 --> 03:29:20.100 What's the HP of this table? 03:29:20.420 --> 03:29:21.620 What's the HP of this table? 03:29:21.620 --> 03:29:23.460 Tables down to 500 HP. 03:29:24.740 --> 03:29:27.140 He's gonna hit up some reinforcements. 03:29:27.140 --> 03:29:28.500 Very nice. Just what you wanted to see. 03:29:28.500 --> 03:29:30.660 Ieuksen. Ranges at the back. 03:29:31.140 --> 03:29:34.420 I think Sing Sing's close to the next age, but he's just making a bunch of scouts. 03:29:34.420 --> 03:29:35.860 Repairing the table, trying to stay alive. 03:29:35.860 --> 03:29:37.220 Sing Sing's holding up for dear life. 03:29:37.220 --> 03:29:39.940 The score is neck and neck. This could be a really big engagement right now. 03:29:39.940 --> 03:29:44.100 Waga turns to take it, but defenders advantage is there, scouts coming out of the stable ready to fight 03:29:44.100 --> 03:29:47.140 with the hillbill, and I think Singsing will win this fight, he's gonna take it 03:29:47.140 --> 03:29:52.260 Singsing needs this fight, and he'll get it, Singsing will clear up this army, gets the score lead 03:29:52.260 --> 03:29:54.660 Singsing is still alive, holy... 03:29:54.660 --> 03:30:01.140 This is impressive, now all of this army from Waga that was marching forward needs to be organized 03:30:01.140 --> 03:30:06.900 and make sure they do not die, because then a lot of forces in your base very very soon 03:30:06.900 --> 03:30:09.100 Yeah. Good downhill hits with the spear. 03:30:09.100 --> 03:30:10.100 Oh my god! 03:30:11.600 --> 03:30:12.600 Holy shit! 03:30:13.400 --> 03:30:15.600 So many kills full of frames! 03:30:15.600 --> 03:30:17.100 Yeah, 10,000 same. 03:30:17.400 --> 03:30:19.400 It was downhill hits with the spears. 03:30:19.400 --> 03:30:21.100 Three scouts die for no reason. 03:30:21.100 --> 03:30:25.600 And Waga, up to Castle Age, up to Castle Age pretty quick, thinks he needs to get there. 03:30:25.600 --> 03:30:27.400 He's so close to clicking up, by the way. 03:30:27.400 --> 03:30:28.900 He does cancel a couple of scouts and get there. 03:30:28.900 --> 03:30:31.500 He's switching to a range now. 03:30:31.500 --> 03:30:32.700 He's got three stables. 03:30:32.700 --> 03:30:34.340 I feel like he's... 03:30:34.340 --> 03:30:37.420 Why not market to sell stone and click up? 03:30:37.420 --> 03:30:42.220 Market would be great, but I think Sing Sing is just so caught up in the moment. 03:30:42.220 --> 03:30:44.700 He'll make a tower that's also good. 03:30:44.700 --> 03:30:45.700 He's up to castleage now. 03:30:45.700 --> 03:30:48.060 He's a minute behind. 03:30:48.060 --> 03:30:49.100 The game is still really close. 03:30:49.100 --> 03:30:50.900 I think Sing Sing has two good options. 03:30:50.900 --> 03:30:54.500 You can go Knights in castleage or you can go Cavarchers. 03:30:54.500 --> 03:30:55.980 Both are decent options with the Maggards. 03:30:55.980 --> 03:30:56.980 It's a cavalry base. 03:30:56.980 --> 03:30:58.900 By the way, we talked about this last time. 03:30:58.900 --> 03:31:04.180 Battle TC from Wagamama, 4 minutes and 13 seconds, so Singsing has a great villager lead 03:31:04.180 --> 03:31:07.300 right now over his opponent Wagamama. 03:31:07.300 --> 03:31:14.460 Wow, brilliant catch, and while previously this number was around 6 minutes at this point 03:31:14.460 --> 03:31:21.180 of time, we had a lot of villager kills from Wagam, while now it's literally 0. 03:31:21.180 --> 03:31:22.180 Yeah, that's crazy. 03:31:22.180 --> 03:31:23.980 Zero attacks on the villagers. 03:31:23.980 --> 03:31:25.820 Zero villager kills from either side. 03:31:25.820 --> 03:31:34.820 Now have we been seeing non-stop fighting for about 16 minutes ever since minute 10 and not a single kill of a villager has been found from either player. 03:31:34.820 --> 03:31:42.820 I want to see Sing Sing go for Scorpions. Let me tell you guys about the Scorpions here real quick. Scorpions is a seed unit that can counter all things infantry. 03:31:42.820 --> 03:31:47.820 And I think Sing Sing kind of needs to lean on that or else he's going to be fighting really tanky pikemen. 03:31:47.820 --> 03:31:52.820 And it's hard to fight tanky pikemen, especially if you're on cavalry which they counter. 03:31:52.820 --> 03:31:59.460 Something that I don't understand is the decision of breaking a house instead of breaking the 03:31:59.460 --> 03:32:02.140 first barracks. 03:32:02.140 --> 03:32:09.060 While it's not on the hill, so Vaga is going to have an advantage by breaking it. 03:32:09.060 --> 03:32:11.460 Why do you think he sends everything on the house? 03:32:11.460 --> 03:32:16.300 Yeah, so hitting houses is okay because killing houses, they're a bit squishier than 03:32:16.300 --> 03:32:18.540 some of the other buildings, so it's okay to go for that. 03:32:18.540 --> 03:32:25.540 Little stack with your micro onto those buildings by the way. Waga clearly got some coaching on how to do that, or he figured it out himself and it's quite impressive. 03:32:25.540 --> 03:32:34.540 A bit of an exploit in some ways. Shout out to Spiffing Brits of how the unit passing and unit stacking works in this game. 03:32:34.540 --> 03:32:37.540 We're going to stack his units up and try to take out some of these buildings. 03:32:37.540 --> 03:32:42.540 Pykeman now coming in. Armor is in. Long Sword is in. This army is very very strong. 03:32:42.540 --> 03:32:45.620 Sing Sing is going to lean on to the cab archers to try to help out here. 03:32:45.620 --> 03:32:48.320 He's got a lot of scouts, but no light cab upgrade. 03:32:48.320 --> 03:32:51.240 I feel like if you get light cab here, it could be really good. 03:32:51.240 --> 03:32:54.580 But at the same time, it's not enough versus the pike, you need something else, and that's 03:32:54.580 --> 03:32:58.040 where the cab archers come to be. 03:32:58.040 --> 03:33:00.680 Yeah, I always hate to fight against archers. 03:33:00.680 --> 03:33:01.680 Oh no way! 03:33:01.680 --> 03:33:02.680 Oh my god! 03:33:02.680 --> 03:33:03.680 Oh my god! 03:33:03.680 --> 03:33:04.680 Oh my god! 03:33:04.680 --> 03:33:05.680 He's diving! 03:33:05.680 --> 03:33:06.680 This is brilliant! 03:33:06.680 --> 03:33:07.680 This is brilliant! 03:33:07.680 --> 03:33:08.680 This is brilliant! 03:33:08.680 --> 03:33:09.920 I don't think Sing Sing's ready to fight him! 03:33:09.920 --> 03:33:11.840 There's a hill at the back as well! 03:33:11.840 --> 03:33:21.840 Speaking about no Villager Snipes, you have to make sure to stay on the top of the hill to have the kill advantage. 03:33:21.840 --> 03:33:25.840 An army on the top of the hill has 25% damage bonus. 03:33:25.840 --> 03:33:26.840 It's Domination. 03:33:26.840 --> 03:33:29.840 The whole army! Where is Domination? 03:33:29.840 --> 03:33:33.840 Oh my goodness, Sing Sing's about to lose. He's about to get knocked out of the tournament from Wagamama. 03:33:33.840 --> 03:33:36.840 What a crazy fight for the pikemen. What a huge dive. 03:33:36.840 --> 03:33:39.760 Dive! Thinks he was not ready with the Cavalters! 03:33:39.760 --> 03:33:42.960 Singsing's defense been a huge question mark in the Lana race 03:33:42.960 --> 03:33:46.040 and he just completely slipped on this defense. 15 eco kills! 03:33:46.040 --> 03:33:48.400 Singsing has lost 15 villagers already! 03:33:48.400 --> 03:33:53.480 He went from 0 to 15, the shit is hit the fan and Wagamama is cleaning up house! 03:33:53.480 --> 03:33:55.160 Thinks he's in trouble! 03:33:55.160 --> 03:33:57.760 Can he come back? He needs to show us something right now. 03:33:58.760 --> 03:33:59.480 Wow! 03:33:59.480 --> 03:34:05.960 Bro, what we are going to see is Wagamama splitting his army in 17 different places 03:34:05.960 --> 03:34:10.560 and making sure not a single villager gets a touch of any resources. 03:34:10.560 --> 03:34:12.640 This is absolutely incredible. 03:34:12.640 --> 03:34:18.400 Gentlemen, W-Aga in the chat, this is unprecedented performance. 03:34:18.400 --> 03:34:24.640 Coming into this game with the bone of my core, I believe that Sync Sync is the favorite. 03:34:24.640 --> 03:34:27.600 I think everyone would have said Sync Sync is the favorite. 03:34:27.600 --> 03:34:31.600 He had more elo, he had more potential that we saw in the ranked ladder race. 03:34:31.600 --> 03:34:34.880 Potentially one of the dark horses of the entire event, 03:34:34.880 --> 03:34:36.880 but Wagamama is about to take him out. 03:34:36.880 --> 03:34:42.640 His former teammates and X-Dota 2 Pro, they both are, but Wagamama shows to be the better 03:34:42.640 --> 03:34:49.040 age of Empire's 2 player, at least, at least better than Singsing in the Arabia Arena matchups. 03:34:49.040 --> 03:34:53.400 Well, Arena was for Singsing, but Wagamama took home Fortress and took home both Arabias, 03:34:53.400 --> 03:34:56.240 if you can close this game out. 03:34:56.240 --> 03:34:57.240 Singsing's in big trouble. 03:34:57.240 --> 03:34:58.240 He's running the villagers away. 03:34:58.240 --> 03:35:02.440 He's got some Cowardger Micro, which is his kind of bread and butter, but no Watkenera. 03:35:02.440 --> 03:35:05.280 I feel like Wagga is in the zone right now. 03:35:06.960 --> 03:35:07.620 Damn. 03:35:07.620 --> 03:35:10.460 We are seeing a siege workshop of warbird coming up. 03:35:10.460 --> 03:35:13.820 So we are going to take a couple of... 03:35:13.820 --> 03:35:15.300 Wow. GG. 03:35:15.300 --> 03:35:16.500 And... yep. 03:35:16.500 --> 03:35:18.740 GG, good luck for them. GG, man. 03:35:18.740 --> 03:35:22.340 GG in the chat. The first upset of the king's gauntlet. 03:35:22.340 --> 03:35:24.680 Wagga has knocked out Sing Sing. 03:35:24.680 --> 03:35:27.460 And I just want to say, first of all, GG in the chat. 03:35:27.460 --> 03:35:29.460 Really, really well played for Wagga. 03:35:29.460 --> 03:35:35.460 This has been an incredible, incredible performance and I absolutely loved everything he's brought to the table here. 03:35:35.460 --> 03:35:40.960 Huge, huge well played here and I honestly think Singsing played pretty well. 03:35:40.960 --> 03:35:45.460 But it's hard to stop the infantry. Wagon goes back to back of Ravenwinds with the infantry. 03:35:45.460 --> 03:35:48.960 And it is real quick guys. 07 is in the chapter of Singsing. 03:35:48.960 --> 03:35:53.960 He gets knocked out of the tournament but my goodness that he put on a crazy ladder grind. 03:35:53.960 --> 03:35:55.960 His streams were so entertaining to watch. 03:35:55.960 --> 03:36:01.760 He's an absolute legend in his own right. Huge, huge respect to SingSing. I love the guy. I love what he's brought to the table. 03:36:01.760 --> 03:36:08.960 I love what he's brought to the King Scarlet. And I really think if he had not met Waga, he might have made a very deep run in this event. 03:36:08.960 --> 03:36:14.260 But Waga just had his number. Aiyuksen, how did you enjoy the set and talk to me? What are you feeling right now? 03:36:15.460 --> 03:36:19.260 I mean, honestly, I appreciate the efforts you put into the script. 03:36:19.260 --> 03:36:22.760 You fed me to SingSing to boost his ego. 03:36:22.760 --> 03:36:26.360 And my boy Waga brought him in his play. 03:36:26.360 --> 03:36:30.360 Honestly, my smile is from one ear to the other. 03:36:30.360 --> 03:36:32.160 I am extremely happy. 03:36:32.160 --> 03:36:35.160 I am proud to be a part of this. 03:36:35.160 --> 03:36:36.360 Impressive. 03:36:36.360 --> 03:36:37.560 Impressive. 03:36:37.560 --> 03:36:39.760 Yeah, super impressive from Waga. 03:36:39.760 --> 03:36:42.160 Now, listen, you got Fethi Syncing early, 03:36:42.160 --> 03:36:44.360 but there's always a bigger fish in the sea, 03:36:44.360 --> 03:36:47.360 and Waga today has proved to be the bigger man. 03:36:47.360 --> 03:36:49.160 But seriously, well played to both. 03:36:49.160 --> 03:36:51.560 Waga, that's gonna be a nice, nice waiter, 03:36:51.560 --> 03:36:55.560 I'm going to be coming back and try with those struts that Vagamaga was showing. 03:36:55.560 --> 03:37:01.560 So gentlemen, thank you for having me. Please enjoy the tournament and until the next time. 03:37:21.560 --> 03:37:23.560 Thank you, I use and have a good one brother 03:37:26.060 --> 03:37:30.020 There you have a guys check out I use and if you like what he brought he streams a lot of world tanks 03:37:30.020 --> 03:37:35.460 It is a really really nice guy a lot of energy a lot of good vibes check him out on a twitch and YouTube 03:37:35.460 --> 03:37:40.000 I use and thank you so much for being a part of this event. He also played in the event and he's casted beautifully 03:37:40.760 --> 03:37:44.040 What a fantastic fantastic set. I'm still processing what we're seeing 03:37:44.080 --> 03:37:48.940 I'm gonna see if we can get syncing in for a kind of you know a little talk before he leaves 03:37:48.940 --> 03:37:54.720 He's he's made top eight guys. It's not a loss that goes without prize pool. He's in a walkaway with some money 03:37:54.720 --> 03:37:57.620 I think it's $250 for the top eight finishers 03:37:57.620 --> 03:38:04.420 So congrats to syncing get some little prize pool before leaving and he definitely had a good results getting a top eight result 03:38:04.420 --> 03:38:09.320 Is not bad at all. Wagamama will move on to the quarterfinals. Let's see if it is updated here 03:38:10.740 --> 03:38:16.700 Very very well played from a wagam and syncing just drops out. It's crazy. He was tearing through the bracket 03:38:16.700 --> 03:38:24.260 He had a tough round versus a you thermal obviously lost to one of the favorites of the event that he chewed aqua to owed death notes and 03:38:25.220 --> 03:38:28.020 Now just just fell short of a waga mama 03:38:28.540 --> 03:38:33.580 This is absolutely fantastic here Captain Lance you thermal grubby pig in the upper bracket 03:38:33.580 --> 03:38:39.940 But next up we should have a truck versus Knopf by the way. Let me just see if we're gonna get sing sing in here and 03:38:41.620 --> 03:38:43.620 Sing sing grubby has just showed me a picture 03:38:43.620 --> 03:38:47.580 Grubby has just showed me a picture, Singsing cannot believe the hole 03:38:48.380 --> 03:38:53.020 Singsing cannot believe the hole in that Vietnamese game. He's saying how the hell is this a hole? 03:38:54.100 --> 03:38:56.100 Absolute disaster 03:38:57.540 --> 03:38:59.660 Get game, dude the devs got you 03:39:01.540 --> 03:39:04.140 He's walking full of fucking practice targets 03:39:04.140 --> 03:39:08.140 I'll keep that in the screen a little longer. 03:39:08.140 --> 03:39:11.140 Facebook took my Adarmas. 03:39:11.140 --> 03:39:14.140 Fucking face, which long swordsman dude. 03:39:14.140 --> 03:39:17.140 I will play it, Waga. Totally deserves. 03:39:17.140 --> 03:39:21.140 I hope you fucking don't lose the very next game you fuck. 03:39:21.140 --> 03:39:22.140 No! 03:39:25.140 --> 03:39:28.140 Why didn't you win? You're much better dude. 03:39:28.140 --> 03:39:32.140 The thing is, Waga, up next you're going to play one of the captains for sure, right? 03:39:32.140 --> 03:39:36.040 upper brackets captain be captain captain be captain so why get you have to 03:39:36.040 --> 03:39:40.020 outperform a captain to make it through past the next round it's gonna be a 03:39:40.020 --> 03:39:43.540 tough round took out syncing of course how do you feel for the next round of 03:39:43.540 --> 03:39:46.300 course now syncing spent a lot of pressure on you how are you feeling 03:39:46.300 --> 03:39:50.940 going up against a captain next let's talk about you first is it well is it 03:39:50.940 --> 03:39:54.380 grubby pig or is it captain you thermal that I'm getting next I'm not 03:39:54.380 --> 03:39:59.580 sure which one I'm facing who knows I could tell you why I do not feel 03:39:59.580 --> 03:40:07.100 confident against 75% of them. Let's say it that way. Okay, so yeah, you'll kick grubby 03:40:07.100 --> 03:40:12.340 ass. I agree with that. It makes a lot of sense. It's gonna be a tough match for you most likely. 03:40:12.340 --> 03:40:16.100 But Sing Sing, I want to talk about you right now. You know, holes aside, how do you feel 03:40:16.100 --> 03:40:19.020 about this event? How'd you enjoy your time both in the ladder race and in the main 03:40:19.020 --> 03:40:22.260 event bracket? First of all, I can say that I loved having you there. I really enjoyed 03:40:22.260 --> 03:40:24.860 your streams and I love what you brought to the table. How do you feel about 03:40:24.860 --> 03:40:25.860 it. 03:40:25.860 --> 03:40:29.100 Really nice, really cool game. 03:40:29.100 --> 03:40:32.940 The 14-hound bracket is a fucking dog shit place to be in, it's filled with smirks, but 03:40:32.940 --> 03:40:34.940 otherwise it's really, really fun to play. 03:40:34.940 --> 03:40:38.220 Thank you for having me man, like it was really enjoyable, like interacting with the other 03:40:38.220 --> 03:40:40.780 players, like running a remore during the game. 03:40:40.780 --> 03:40:43.340 It's all like a really, really cool experience, I loved it. 03:40:43.340 --> 03:40:45.560 I love to hear that man, I love to hear that. 03:40:45.560 --> 03:40:50.020 And of course you dropped your X-team mate, good friend, Wagamama, so it's not 03:40:50.020 --> 03:40:51.420 a disappointing result as well. 03:40:51.420 --> 03:40:54.460 Top 8 finish for you, Sing Sing, it's not bad at all. 03:40:54.460 --> 03:40:57.900 What do you want to say to the chat before we move on to the next series here? 03:40:59.500 --> 03:41:03.220 Just cheer for Waga. He's carrying the Dodo torch right now, and if he fails, 03:41:03.260 --> 03:41:06.420 know that he's the reason why there's no fucking Dodo player in Toxer. 03:41:07.420 --> 03:41:10.340 It's fucking bitch, can I get a perform now? No question, by the way. 03:41:12.260 --> 03:41:15.140 There you have it there. Sting Sting, thank you so much for joining. 03:41:15.420 --> 03:41:18.620 And we'll be moving on next to the HR versus Kroff matchup. 03:41:18.620 --> 03:41:20.700 And I think Waga, you are casting as well. 03:41:21.100 --> 03:41:23.620 So shout out to both of you. Sting Sting, thank you so much for joining us. 03:41:23.620 --> 03:41:25.620 And Waga, you're sticking around for the cast, man. 03:41:25.620 --> 03:41:34.620 Yeah, I'd love to join you. It'll be fun. I haven't gone to cast with you, and I've never cast an AWE game in my life, but, you know, I can... 03:41:34.620 --> 03:41:41.620 I do enjoy watching these players who have more than one strategy, you know? You never know what they're gonna do, meanwhile. 03:41:41.620 --> 03:41:44.620 If they make infantry, I can comment on it. 03:41:44.620 --> 03:41:49.620 But by the way, just because, you know, Waga's kind of pushing out of this cast thing, he could only cast infantry. 03:41:49.620 --> 03:41:53.940 We think you're going to join us and we'll do a little triple cast for this next set. 03:41:53.940 --> 03:41:55.380 What's next set again? 03:41:55.380 --> 03:41:56.380 Hrucknoff. 03:41:56.380 --> 03:41:58.500 Oh yeah, fuck it, let's go. 03:41:58.500 --> 03:41:59.500 Let's go! 03:41:59.500 --> 03:42:00.500 Double Dota cast, double Dota. 03:42:00.500 --> 03:42:04.500 And I thought a couple games of Dota myself, so triple Dota cast for this next one. 03:42:04.500 --> 03:42:09.860 I actually want to say, at what rank I played, I was in dog shit ele, I played three games, 03:42:09.860 --> 03:42:11.980 lost them all and I said league is better. 03:42:11.980 --> 03:42:12.980 Oh Jesus. 03:42:12.980 --> 03:42:13.980 Jesus Christ. 03:42:13.980 --> 03:42:19.380 No, no, it's interesting, me and Dota is like, you'd actually go blind. 03:42:19.380 --> 03:42:23.300 I'm horrible like I you know what I couldn't understand it though that I had a freaking donkey brother 03:42:23.300 --> 03:42:27.180 Why do I have a donkey they call him a courier? I gotta send this guy to pick up I'll pick up items 03:42:27.180 --> 03:42:30.020 I come from League of Legends. I can just do it myself. What's with the dog? 03:42:34.020 --> 03:42:38.300 But it's that bad, huh? It's that bad, but no we had it's worse 03:42:38.300 --> 03:42:41.260 We I played on the past where we had one donkey for the whole team 03:42:41.580 --> 03:42:44.100 I'm trying to get the dog to go give me my shit and 03:42:44.100 --> 03:42:46.100 and i keep it on the donkey 03:42:46.100 --> 03:42:48.100 yeah did you play mid or not? 03:42:48.100 --> 03:42:50.100 i don't know what i played honestly 03:42:50.100 --> 03:42:52.100 i have no idea 03:42:52.100 --> 03:42:54.100 if you were in mid you had no donkey basically 03:42:54.100 --> 03:42:56.100 so there was no donkey 03:42:56.100 --> 03:42:58.100 no no i had a donkey 03:42:58.100 --> 03:43:00.100 i had a donkey but he was just never there for me 03:43:00.100 --> 03:43:02.100 exactly 03:43:04.100 --> 03:43:06.100 alright it's been a while 03:43:06.100 --> 03:43:08.100 it's more like my boar in that game 03:43:08.100 --> 03:43:10.100 i don't know where it went, my pig 03:43:10.100 --> 03:43:12.100 you want to do an evening by the Vietnamese 03:43:12.100 --> 03:43:14.100 It was good meal 03:43:14.680 --> 03:43:16.680 How long for you? 03:43:17.940 --> 03:43:22.320 Hey a truck doesn't know he's playing by the way. We can't get a hold of a truck. Yeah 03:43:23.160 --> 03:43:25.160 I guess 03:43:25.780 --> 03:43:28.580 He might still be sleeping he's not even online on this word. I 03:43:29.260 --> 03:43:34.140 Stound him with some 14s. Also a truck is the one guy that doesn't answer to my admin 03:43:35.300 --> 03:43:37.860 Guy thinks it's tough shit, bro. I have to message him myself 03:43:37.860 --> 03:43:45.140 myself. Yeah, we'll just see how this goes. But so far, we haven't really heard from him. 03:43:45.140 --> 03:43:49.860 By the 200 gifted from King in the North, we have 10 gifted from Migs. King in the North, 03:43:49.860 --> 03:43:53.540 thank you so much for that big subbomb. Completely missed it. We're talking with Sing and Wagga, 03:43:53.540 --> 03:43:57.380 but thank you Migs for the 10 gifted as well. Cause chaos, 6 out of 5 gifted. I appreciate 03:43:57.380 --> 03:44:00.580 you guys supporting the channel, supporting the stream, and supporting the tournaments. 03:44:00.580 --> 03:44:04.740 We're gonna have to fill some time here. Why don't we go with another best of 5, 03:44:04.740 --> 03:44:10.260 rematch double or nothing wag ever sing let's do it reset the bracket you guys are crazy 03:44:10.260 --> 03:44:15.060 nae you do that shit too i've seen these best of 15 show matches and said hey i don't know 03:44:15.060 --> 03:44:19.220 how you have the patience for or like endurance for that you know that the biggest of them 03:44:19.220 --> 03:44:25.620 don't know the biggest show match was best of 21 by the way uh in age one 21 best of 21 yeah 03:44:25.620 --> 03:44:35.440 a fucking game. That's a 21. Like, don't you just run out of sips? No, bro, there's 03:44:35.440 --> 03:44:42.640 53 sins. Yeah, but that's 53 sins. Well, you play you play 21 each and if it goes to 03:44:42.640 --> 03:44:47.760 the last game, that's crazy. Somebody is bound to be on the map when they don't know 03:44:47.760 --> 03:44:52.040 a sip for it. Like, there's no fucking way. No, no, no, we know you have good progression 03:44:52.040 --> 03:44:56.460 on every map. Pro-AV2 is really hard, by the way. It's really hard. 03:44:56.460 --> 03:45:02.340 It's like chess, you gotta study openings. You gotta study like a million saves, prep 03:45:02.340 --> 03:45:07.740 everything. Yeah, something like that, to be fair. By the 03:45:07.740 --> 03:45:11.900 way, we're not seeing anything from Atroc. We'll give it like five minutes. If not, I 03:45:11.900 --> 03:45:15.860 think we have to move to the upper bracket set earlier, if possible. 03:45:15.860 --> 03:45:24.260 I really don't want to give, play them 2v1, you guys want a 2v1 me, but I can barely 1v1 03:45:24.260 --> 03:45:29.700 Waga mama, like Singsing just has to do anything, and I lose, that's what I'm doing, we should 03:45:29.700 --> 03:45:30.700 have that much money right? 03:45:30.700 --> 03:45:37.700 Yeah, we can do it bro, Singsing, will you continue streaming 81 parts, and then Waga 03:45:37.700 --> 03:45:41.140 is in the tournament, oh you're going to stream some team games, okay. 03:45:41.140 --> 03:45:44.220 Yeah, I have no interest in 1v1s, but I think team games are really fun. 03:45:44.220 --> 03:45:45.440 Alright, cool, cool, cool. 03:45:45.440 --> 03:45:46.620 Yeah, we can do a 2v1. 03:45:46.620 --> 03:45:48.500 The chat's pressuring us to do it right now. 03:45:48.500 --> 03:45:50.660 We could do it right now, but it's very unprofessional 03:45:50.660 --> 03:45:53.740 to just put in a random 2v1 mid-turn of it. 03:45:53.740 --> 03:45:57.700 It can always blame Aethel or Praveenlite. 03:45:57.700 --> 03:45:59.060 Yeah, we could. 03:45:59.060 --> 03:46:00.260 Are you guys down? 03:46:00.260 --> 03:46:01.100 Is it on the table? 03:46:01.100 --> 03:46:01.940 We'll give him a couple minutes, 03:46:01.940 --> 03:46:03.300 but are you guys down in theory? 03:46:04.940 --> 03:46:06.940 I think you let your tongue in the game soon, brother. 03:46:06.940 --> 03:46:07.780 You're letting your fucking tongue in. 03:46:07.780 --> 03:46:09.860 What do you mean, are you down on this guy? 03:46:09.860 --> 03:46:11.260 I don't know what to do, bro. 03:46:11.260 --> 03:46:12.180 I'm running a tournament. 03:46:12.180 --> 03:46:13.180 A truck's not here. 03:46:13.180 --> 03:46:14.640 Surely someone else is ready. 03:46:14.640 --> 03:46:15.640 You know, you've got to put your hands to theirs. 03:46:15.640 --> 03:46:16.900 I'm asking the admin. 03:46:16.900 --> 03:46:19.100 I'm trying to get an upper bracket match going. 03:46:21.140 --> 03:46:22.500 Yeah, one of my mods is saying, 03:46:22.500 --> 03:46:23.460 what if it was sponsored? 03:46:23.460 --> 03:46:25.100 I don't think it would help the situation. 03:46:25.100 --> 03:46:26.940 Okay, Lance and you thermal might be down. 03:46:26.940 --> 03:46:28.940 Lance and you thermal might be down. 03:46:29.820 --> 03:46:31.300 Nice. 03:46:31.300 --> 03:46:32.380 Oh, that's a matchup. 03:46:32.380 --> 03:46:33.220 That's a pretty good idea. 03:46:33.220 --> 03:46:34.060 Yeah, I was scared for both of them. 03:46:34.060 --> 03:46:35.980 Yeah, that's actually a crazy matchup. 03:46:35.980 --> 03:46:37.540 Both of them are still strong. 03:46:38.540 --> 03:46:40.020 Lance, get out of my chat and get ready. 03:46:40.020 --> 03:46:41.580 You're up next, Lance. 03:46:41.580 --> 03:46:44.080 The last is just in there, tapping in his underwear. 03:46:48.080 --> 03:46:51.420 I feel like you Thermal has been powering up a lot by the way, like from the ladder. 03:46:51.420 --> 03:46:55.540 Ladder race, he didn't play that much, but like he's really sharpened up a lot in the 03:46:55.540 --> 03:46:56.540 recent time. 03:46:56.540 --> 03:47:00.740 But on the other hand, Captain Lance, he's a freak dude, like, I thought that he was 03:47:00.740 --> 03:47:03.540 at his peak in the more, but he was treadmilling the entire time. 03:47:03.540 --> 03:47:05.660 You can't tell me that was his peak in the more. 03:47:07.660 --> 03:47:08.660 That's weird too, right? 03:47:08.660 --> 03:47:09.900 He plays like a thousand different things. 03:47:09.900 --> 03:47:12.340 Yeah, he's playing random Siv, random map. 03:47:12.340 --> 03:47:14.060 He's playing on a treadmill. 03:47:14.060 --> 03:47:16.340 Like, this guy was super nerfed in the ladder race. 03:47:16.340 --> 03:47:19.700 He could be like a secret 2K and nobody knows. 03:47:19.700 --> 03:47:21.580 Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. 03:47:26.180 --> 03:47:28.780 Yeah, Knopf is disappointed he's ready. 03:47:28.780 --> 03:47:30.940 And Knopf says, guys, come on. 03:47:30.940 --> 03:47:32.180 Get Hjok here. 03:47:32.180 --> 03:47:34.140 Dude, somebody call Big A. 03:47:37.700 --> 03:47:38.500 That's true. 03:47:38.500 --> 03:47:41.420 Knoff is about to call for a death win soon. 03:47:41.420 --> 03:47:42.380 I see him. 03:47:42.380 --> 03:47:44.540 He's furious. 03:47:44.540 --> 03:47:45.180 I wonder what. 03:47:45.180 --> 03:47:47.860 Piss off Knoff either. 03:47:47.860 --> 03:47:51.540 By the way, technically the rule should be if Hrock doesn't 03:47:51.540 --> 03:47:54.980 show in 15 minutes, he's a forfeit, by the way. 03:47:54.980 --> 03:47:55.860 CaptainLot agrees. 03:47:55.860 --> 03:47:59.660 OK, guys, we're going to give Hrock 15 minutes from now 03:47:59.660 --> 03:48:01.620 at 2 PM my time in 15 minutes. 03:48:01.620 --> 03:48:04.340 It's a forfeit Hrock. 03:48:04.340 --> 03:48:05.620 All right, 15 minutes from now. 03:48:05.620 --> 03:48:07.700 If not, GG Knoth wins. 03:48:09.220 --> 03:48:10.060 That's the rule. 03:48:10.060 --> 03:48:10.900 What? 03:48:10.900 --> 03:48:11.740 Send me a link. 03:48:11.740 --> 03:48:12.820 He's got 15 minutes. 03:48:12.820 --> 03:48:13.660 That's it. 03:48:13.660 --> 03:48:14.980 Link? 03:48:14.980 --> 03:48:16.380 Are we linking? 03:48:16.380 --> 03:48:17.820 Yeah, yeah, for the match. 03:48:19.260 --> 03:48:20.860 Oh, it's not hosted, I think. 03:48:20.860 --> 03:48:22.020 No, we're not doing it to be won. 03:48:22.020 --> 03:48:22.860 We're not doing it to be won. 03:48:22.860 --> 03:48:24.960 It's 15 minutes, you're a professional. 03:48:28.140 --> 03:48:30.380 And yeah, Knoth will get the admin win 03:48:30.380 --> 03:48:33.220 if HROC does not show in 15 minutes. 03:48:33.220 --> 03:48:34.620 We have to fill time. 03:48:34.620 --> 03:48:36.540 I don't know what we do, but we just talk. 03:48:39.240 --> 03:48:41.640 So, Sing, was it the same for you, by the way? 03:48:41.800 --> 03:48:46.280 In this match that we have now, they felt like less nervous for some reason going up. 03:48:46.560 --> 03:48:49.240 Because I felt no nerves knowing that I'm playing you. 03:48:49.320 --> 03:48:51.560 It's like no matter who wins, I'll be okay with it. 03:48:51.720 --> 03:48:54.520 Yeah, but I was nervous as fuck in the first two matches. 03:48:54.520 --> 03:48:58.640 Like actually, I was really, for no reason too, I'm like scared. 03:48:59.240 --> 03:49:04.080 Yeah, I was facing like a nine or more player and I didn't, I felt like I might lose it. 03:49:04.080 --> 03:49:05.080 I was like what's going on? 03:49:05.080 --> 03:49:07.080 But I faced you and I was like oh let's get a kill. 03:49:07.080 --> 03:49:08.080 If I die I die. 03:49:08.080 --> 03:49:10.080 I was shaking against spitting brick dude. 03:49:10.080 --> 03:49:14.080 I was actually like my hands were sweaty you know. 03:49:14.080 --> 03:49:15.080 Oh jeez. 03:49:15.080 --> 03:49:17.080 I mean he could have randomly cheered you right? 03:49:17.080 --> 03:49:20.080 Or the stupid possible shit. 03:49:20.080 --> 03:49:21.080 Yeah. 03:49:21.080 --> 03:49:22.080 By the way. 03:49:22.080 --> 03:49:24.080 I think there's only two players left. 03:49:24.080 --> 03:49:25.080 That's that. 03:49:25.080 --> 03:49:27.080 It's Gubby and Kettle Lance. 03:49:27.080 --> 03:49:28.080 True. 03:49:28.080 --> 03:49:33.080 By the way the first game we played I thought you were going to go Magyar on the Fortress. 03:49:33.080 --> 03:49:38.680 I wanted to go Britain's to counter your Magia composition, but you ended up going for Mongol, which is similar anyway. 03:49:38.680 --> 03:49:40.180 Like you wanted to go Sartir. 03:49:40.180 --> 03:49:45.580 I thought you were going Celts to ram push my ass, so I went and asked to kill your rams for fucking Manga Dai. 03:49:45.580 --> 03:49:53.380 I would have won that anyway if I went skirmish and Manga Dai and rams. 03:49:53.380 --> 03:49:57.580 I thought Cetanrgers would beat Longbowmen, but they died before they could shoot, it's fucked up. 03:49:57.580 --> 03:50:03.260 Even if Skirm's lost, I think you needed those rams in front of the Longbowmen, then you would win. 03:50:03.260 --> 03:50:10.220 Skirm's plus rams, and then I have to manually target every single auto-attack, or I do zero DPS. 03:50:10.220 --> 03:50:12.780 So yeah, there you would beat me. 03:50:12.780 --> 03:50:14.780 That game was just like... 03:50:14.780 --> 03:50:16.780 My game was weird, dudes. 03:50:16.780 --> 03:50:20.380 My game bugged out all my skin blackouts in that game. It was really weird. 03:50:20.380 --> 03:50:22.380 Not sure what happened. 03:50:22.380 --> 03:50:24.380 Yeah, sure, sure. 03:50:24.380 --> 03:50:36.860 I really am impressed how cost-effective the longbowman can be because I thought I would 03:50:36.860 --> 03:50:41.700 struggle you had the relics and you have the outer golds basically but those longbowmen 03:50:41.700 --> 03:50:45.540 sitting behind some spears you can actually trade really nicely. 03:50:45.540 --> 03:50:49.100 Yeah, they're really strong. 03:50:49.100 --> 03:50:57.780 I find the mongrel now range of months it bugs others on me if you have too many I didn't have no idea 03:50:57.780 --> 03:51:05.700 oh oh you made too many minus by the way in that game in that game a seed drum I heard you guys 03:51:05.700 --> 03:51:08.420 talking seed drum would have been great I think a better option than the seed 03:51:08.420 --> 03:51:12.900 onager but I will say Wagga your micro is a seed onager was very good like if you 03:51:12.900 --> 03:51:17.220 messed up once or twice things seem got a few decent shots but once or twice and you messed 03:51:17.220 --> 03:51:21.860 up and you take a huge hit and you lose the game so I took a few blasts though I 03:51:21.860 --> 03:51:25.540 lost like 20 in one volley at one point it was so sad those things are so 03:51:25.540 --> 03:51:29.620 expensive like even if you lose 10 guys it's worth it for you almost for a 03:51:29.620 --> 03:51:33.460 kill my longbowman can shoot you from like five tiles before you're in range 03:51:33.460 --> 03:51:38.180 of me though it's insane like that she just made them three tiles three tiles 03:51:38.180 --> 03:51:41.820 to be fair but yeah it's usually not too to make it happen yeah it did 03:51:41.820 --> 03:51:44.380 sometimes feel like five guys a couple things I want to address here 03:51:44.380 --> 03:51:49.240 swapping, syncing for Hrock would be incredibly unfair to Knopf, that's not 03:51:49.240 --> 03:51:52.840 gonna happen, sorry to syncing of course, but that would be like super super 03:51:52.840 --> 03:51:57.280 corrupt and also someone's asking if I have Ludwig's contact to get a hold of 03:51:57.280 --> 03:52:00.800 Hrock, I have Ludwig's contact but he never answers my messages so I can't 03:52:00.800 --> 03:52:05.280 I can't really do that so unfortunately just Hrock, maybe if it's viewers have 03:52:05.280 --> 03:52:10.720 his contact somehow sure but otherwise we're just waiting. You can just send in your boyfriend Grubby instead. 03:52:10.720 --> 03:52:16.720 Yeah, Grubby gets a second life, put Grubby in, Grubby plays it, he gets two likes! 03:52:16.720 --> 03:52:19.720 Grubby in upper and lower bracket! 03:52:19.720 --> 03:52:24.720 Grand finals Grubby insane, he'll have to fucking split. 03:52:24.720 --> 03:52:27.720 Oh that's fantastic. 03:52:27.720 --> 03:52:31.720 Yeah we just have to wait, it's ten minutes guys, ten minutes to the round. 03:52:31.720 --> 03:52:38.720 Grubby says sure, Grubby's always down to throw down, he just plays, no worries. 03:52:38.720 --> 03:52:42.160 He's been bit on this game. He's been pretty hooked. 03:52:42.160 --> 03:52:47.120 I am playing it non-stop before and after our show match we did the 1v7. 03:52:47.120 --> 03:52:50.000 It was 1900 almost. Two games of 1900. It was crazy. 03:52:50.000 --> 03:52:55.440 I think he'll make a run for 2k at some point. 03:52:55.440 --> 03:53:05.600 Got this on a checklist. He played Dota, he got the Immortal Bracket, he plays some other game, gets to a very good level and now we're grinding the AoE ladder. 03:53:05.600 --> 03:53:06.600 Yeah. 03:53:06.600 --> 03:53:07.600 He just won everything. 03:53:07.600 --> 03:53:11.600 The dough that played was only immortal though, right? 03:53:11.600 --> 03:53:14.600 It's like the barely human black it's still. 03:53:14.600 --> 03:53:17.600 It was pretty high for how fast he got there. 03:53:17.600 --> 03:53:18.600 Yeah. 03:53:18.600 --> 03:53:19.600 It used to mean a lot. 03:53:19.600 --> 03:53:22.600 Now it's, I mean, it's good, but it's top 13 percent. 03:53:22.600 --> 03:53:24.600 It's not like top 1 percent or anything. 03:53:24.600 --> 03:53:25.600 Oh, that's terrible. 03:53:25.600 --> 03:53:26.600 Immortal sounds like it's insane. 03:53:26.600 --> 03:53:29.600 That's like freaking, that's like, that's like quiet in the league, bro. 03:53:29.600 --> 03:53:30.600 That's terrible. 03:53:30.600 --> 03:53:33.600 I mean, if we think about it, if we think about it, 03:53:33.600 --> 03:53:41.660 13% what is up 13% in the aoe yeah, yeah, maybe around like 1800 maybe maybe like 1700 I guess 03:53:42.440 --> 03:53:44.640 Yeah, it's not bad. It's not bad 03:53:45.720 --> 03:53:48.420 It's decent. I'm not that far away from it 03:53:49.800 --> 03:53:53.440 Yeah, you've gotten there really fast, but to be fair your progress was really fast 03:53:53.520 --> 03:53:58.560 What I'm seeing from age vampires by the way is that I think we have a really really really competitive pro pro scene 03:53:58.560 --> 03:54:00.820 But I think the mid elo is a bit hard 03:54:00.820 --> 03:54:06.820 Like, Midyula has a bunch of people that are like kind of casual and a bunch of people that are just hard stuck for ten years in there. 03:54:06.820 --> 03:54:08.820 Yeah. 03:54:08.820 --> 03:54:12.820 Yeah, I mean, I played against a lot of people who had like 16,000 games and stuff. 03:54:12.820 --> 03:54:16.820 Like, on one Siv, I played against the Tutun and had 16,000 games. 03:54:16.820 --> 03:54:18.820 No wonder he knows what he's doing. 03:54:18.820 --> 03:54:20.820 Apparently, Ludwig is calling Hrock. 03:54:20.820 --> 03:54:22.820 Ludwig's shooting right now? 03:54:24.820 --> 03:54:26.820 Let's see what's going on. 03:54:26.820 --> 03:54:28.820 I guess he doesn't know the times. 03:54:28.820 --> 03:54:37.940 times. What is this? I don't know. I actually don't know where Atrock is. You have 10 minutes. 03:54:38.500 --> 03:54:43.460 10 minutes to go. So much favoritism to Atrock. No, it's not favoritism at all. This is very 03:54:43.460 --> 03:54:48.340 standard. The rule is, if you don't show, you get 15 minutes. We gave him like 5 minutes extra. 03:54:49.060 --> 03:54:52.500 But this is actually not favoritism. This is actually standard. By the way, guys, rushing 03:54:52.500 --> 03:54:56.340 to give an admin loss would be bad for our schedule anyway. So we're trying to do our best. 03:54:56.340 --> 03:55:05.020 I truck didn't pick up. Let's see. He's got 10 minutes. We'll give him the time if not, 03:55:05.020 --> 03:55:10.420 it's time at 2pm. It's time at 2pm. I'm going to give him the admin loss. If it's not favoritism, 03:55:10.420 --> 03:55:14.180 we're trying to best keep this as professional as possible despite, yeah, only Grubby gets 03:55:14.180 --> 03:55:19.460 favoritism. How dare you accuse me of favoritism to Ashrock. This is, this is disastrous. 03:55:19.460 --> 03:55:24.900 Yo, here I have a question for you. Yeah. So in one of our games we played the music here. 03:55:24.900 --> 03:55:29.300 I used the patrol trick to stack the mana more very good. Yes 03:55:29.460 --> 03:55:33.220 Do you feel do you feel like the patrol trick should be in the game or not? 03:55:33.220 --> 03:55:37.540 Is it good for the game or is it not? Of course not. That's terrible for the game very unhealthy mechanic 03:55:37.980 --> 03:55:40.780 There is some counter play to it. It's not that like 03:55:41.420 --> 03:55:46.380 Broken but it is very like it is overpowered and it is very unintuitive 03:55:46.820 --> 03:55:50.120 But the devs don't know how to fix it. They don't know how to fix it. That's the problem 03:55:50.700 --> 03:55:51.780 hmm 03:55:51.780 --> 03:55:56.100 Dash says I do a mean atrial cosplay if you want me to load up and lose to Knopf real fast 03:55:56.340 --> 03:56:01.900 If that's you put on a truck mask. No one can tell the difference dash is about to hop in here 03:56:02.100 --> 03:56:04.100 What a fantastic proposition 03:56:06.260 --> 03:56:08.260 It'd be great to have a substitute 03:56:10.460 --> 03:56:15.180 The thing is I would love to have a substitute, but if the substitute wins Knopf is just gonna 03:56:15.620 --> 03:56:19.660 Knopf would just like it'd be so unfair right like that's it's not possible 03:56:19.660 --> 03:56:26.660 Aatrox Gropin did an answer, damn, oh my goodness. 03:56:26.660 --> 03:56:27.660 You're exhausting every chance. 03:56:27.660 --> 03:56:28.660 He has seven minutes, guys. 03:56:28.660 --> 03:56:29.660 He's got seven minutes. 03:56:29.660 --> 03:56:31.660 Given the last bit of time here, but yeah. 03:56:31.660 --> 03:56:32.660 Does he just lose? 03:56:32.660 --> 03:56:33.660 He loses, yeah. 03:56:33.660 --> 03:56:35.660 He was late yesterday too. 03:56:35.660 --> 03:56:36.660 Yeah. 03:56:36.660 --> 03:56:37.660 Fuck. 03:56:37.660 --> 03:56:39.660 The thing is, it is early for him right now. 03:56:39.660 --> 03:56:43.660 It's like, I think something like his 10pm now or 11pm. 03:56:43.660 --> 03:56:44.660 I think 11pm. 03:56:44.660 --> 03:56:45.660 What? 03:56:45.660 --> 03:56:46.660 11am. 03:56:46.660 --> 03:56:47.660 11am. 03:56:47.660 --> 03:56:48.660 How is that early? 03:56:48.660 --> 03:56:50.660 It's kind of early, bro 03:56:51.460 --> 03:56:57.820 Bro, what do you mean? We played three we played 3 p.m. And then to a.m. Starting a BO3 like 03:56:58.460 --> 03:57:00.060 11 hour gap 03:57:00.060 --> 03:57:04.220 He can't complain hour gap for my 3 p.m. And 4 a.m. What the fuck is that? 03:57:05.420 --> 03:57:07.420 Scheduling skills 03:57:07.540 --> 03:57:09.540 They wouldn't do me this dirty 03:57:11.220 --> 03:57:15.540 Well honestly, it's your fault for being the losers brackets to be honest like the losers back 03:57:18.660 --> 03:57:21.660 Okay, now I am a captain. 03:57:21.660 --> 03:57:28.660 Yeah, I think you should have taken the captain role, but maybe on the next tournament I can make that rule. 03:57:28.660 --> 03:57:29.660 I can switch in that rule. 03:57:29.660 --> 03:57:30.660 That would be hilarious. 03:57:30.660 --> 03:57:32.660 Let me ask you this, guys. 03:57:32.660 --> 03:57:33.660 Let me ask you this. 03:57:33.660 --> 03:57:40.660 I don't want to lock you in for like a three-year contract, but hypothetically, if I do host another one of these events next year, would you guys be down and playing? 03:57:40.660 --> 03:57:41.660 Yeah, I'm down. 03:57:41.660 --> 03:57:42.660 For sure. 03:57:42.660 --> 03:57:43.660 Yeah. 03:57:43.660 --> 03:57:44.660 I'd love to hear that, bro. 03:57:44.660 --> 03:57:45.660 That's good. 03:57:45.660 --> 03:57:51.120 I mean, it's been a lot of fun actually even the ladder race and like the entire thing leading up to it. It's been a blast 03:57:51.300 --> 03:57:54.380 Yeah, yeah people have been talking about stock of two journey 03:57:54.380 --> 03:58:00.100 I honestly would have by this pig or day nine when I host some starcraft maybe loco host some starcraft journey 03:58:00.180 --> 03:58:04.460 That would be absolutely epic and I think a lot of us would also play that I surely would play it 03:58:04.980 --> 03:58:08.620 And yeah, good to hear that you guys would be down for for a run back next year 03:58:08.820 --> 03:58:12.580 Give me something to play with I'd obviously switch up the format a little bit will have some ideas 03:58:12.580 --> 03:58:16.860 But yeah should be a lot of fun five more minutes by the way for a truck and if he doesn't show it 03:58:16.860 --> 03:58:19.140 It's a forfeit and Knopf will move on 03:58:19.980 --> 03:58:21.980 That's five minutes 03:58:28.580 --> 03:58:35.060 He's probably leaving so good. I'm doing my best impression here now. I'm the one eating on her a stream feels fucking good man 03:58:35.060 --> 03:58:37.060 I deserve this 03:58:38.380 --> 03:58:41.300 Well, that's really disrespectful to me on my stream 03:58:41.300 --> 03:58:56.300 I had a healthy brownie for the morning brownie with some chocolate on it 03:58:56.300 --> 03:58:59.300 just wanted to eat a light little breakfast but still haven't had any real 03:58:59.300 --> 03:59:06.100 food kind of powering through here yeah only a strict meal no it's my first meal 03:59:06.100 --> 03:59:12.300 It's my first meal and it was it was basically a salad like this a nice light browning 03:59:14.540 --> 03:59:15.820 Hmm 03:59:15.820 --> 03:59:18.740 Yes, the thing is things saying like you guys say I'm eating a lot 03:59:18.740 --> 03:59:23.460 But the thing is I have one meal for the day literally one meal. I'm holding it. I think one bite 03:59:24.140 --> 03:59:29.180 No, bro. Let's hear me out. Hear me out. I have one bite and the chat's like all hairs eating 03:59:29.460 --> 03:59:34.420 Okay 30 minutes pass. I go take another bite. Wow eating again. It's like, no, it's the same meal 03:59:34.420 --> 03:59:38.460 It's just sitting there. I'm just counseling for you guys that's I can take a ten minute break each 03:59:38.460 --> 03:59:42.060 But then all my viewers go down I get really sad so now I'm fat and sad 03:59:42.060 --> 03:59:44.580 Let me to be fat and happy at least you know 03:59:45.220 --> 03:59:47.620 I do digesting the same speed as you're eating 03:59:48.540 --> 03:59:50.940 You have a different definition of food of meals 03:59:51.820 --> 03:59:55.540 It's gotta be like snack and meal that you just interchanging them for whatever 04:00:00.580 --> 04:00:03.980 I got another question for you though here as I got the chance here and we have time 04:00:04.420 --> 04:00:12.940 Like, what has surprised you the most about the players in general, like, what people do or do good or do poorly? 04:00:12.940 --> 04:00:19.260 Like, is there builds or stuff that you are so surprised you don't see? Like, what's surprising about this tournament to you? 04:00:19.260 --> 04:00:30.060 Yeah, very good question. And I would say that I'm surprised at how disciplined everyone in the tournament is at, like, executing the same strategy over and over again. 04:00:30.060 --> 04:00:39.060 And Aatrox missing, this is not very disciplined of course, but like for example local, he went for like the same build, he actually did it really well, he always went for the same approach, but he did it very well. 04:00:39.060 --> 04:00:45.060 So like the discipline from the players is really good. What surprised me is just not doing the basic shit like clicking loom. 04:00:45.060 --> 04:00:55.060 I would have never imagined like just where people are like tower rushing with no loom, 50 minutes no loom, like I can't believe how many basic shit is just missing from like the gameplay. 04:00:55.060 --> 04:01:00.180 gameplay, but you guys are doing some really, really tough, like mechanics and tough, like 04:01:00.180 --> 04:01:02.460 tough micro moves while forgetting the basics. 04:01:02.460 --> 04:01:07.980 So I think I'm surprised at how good some people are at the hard stuff and how bad some 04:01:07.980 --> 04:01:10.300 people are on the basics, basically. 04:01:10.300 --> 04:01:13.500 I think the loom thing is more than about a lot of people forgetting. 04:01:13.500 --> 04:01:14.500 You're just greedy. 04:01:14.500 --> 04:01:15.500 You know? 04:01:15.500 --> 04:01:16.500 I'm just greedy. 04:01:16.500 --> 04:01:17.500 I think a lot of people are just greedy. 04:01:17.500 --> 04:01:18.500 No, no, no. 04:01:18.500 --> 04:01:19.500 It's not for the... 04:01:19.500 --> 04:01:20.500 No, no. 04:01:20.500 --> 04:01:21.500 It's not a greed, but it's 50 gold, not that much. 04:01:21.500 --> 04:01:24.860 have people tower rushing minute 50 tower rushing and they don't have freaking 04:01:24.860 --> 04:01:29.740 loom like that it can't be the 50 gold can we vote on admin winner postponed 04:01:29.740 --> 04:01:34.180 game the thing is it has to be admin win like Knopf is asking for the admin 04:01:34.180 --> 04:01:38.660 win it's within his right to do so the rules has admin win so it has to be 04:01:38.660 --> 04:01:44.820 admin win yeah otherwise it's been way around forever as well you know yeah 04:01:44.820 --> 04:01:45.820 It makes sense. 04:01:45.820 --> 04:01:53.340 It's two minutes, by the way, if people in the chat are saying that Aatrox said that 04:01:53.340 --> 04:01:57.660 he's going to play next on Sunday, I don't know how he could have missed that he's playing 04:01:57.660 --> 04:02:00.460 today, like he's in the losers bracket, why would he play on Sunday, like it doesn't 04:02:00.460 --> 04:02:03.100 even make any sense. 04:02:03.100 --> 04:02:09.180 Ren Ragh, thank you for the five gift, I appreciate that. 04:02:09.180 --> 04:02:11.940 Thank you so much, it's one minute, guys. 04:02:11.940 --> 04:02:13.940 One minute, get the 0-7s ready. 04:02:13.940 --> 04:02:18.780 We'll get A-Truck on the cast later, maybe. 04:02:18.780 --> 04:02:19.780 He's coming or not. 04:02:19.780 --> 04:02:20.780 We haven't heard. 04:02:20.780 --> 04:02:21.780 They haven't heard. 04:02:21.780 --> 04:02:23.940 It's likely to be a forefoot here, unfortunately. 04:02:23.940 --> 04:02:28.660 Trust me, I really don't want to do this, and I hate that we have to do it. 04:02:28.660 --> 04:02:35.940 But at the end of the day, I'd rather be fair to the person that did show up, I 04:02:35.940 --> 04:02:36.940 guess. 04:02:36.940 --> 04:02:41.380 Listen, we've played a lot of pro games in Dota, and you've got to enforce 04:02:41.380 --> 04:02:42.380 the rules. 04:02:42.380 --> 04:02:43.900 there's no point to having them. 04:02:43.900 --> 04:02:44.740 Yeah, yeah. 04:02:44.740 --> 04:02:47.380 I've seen this situation a lot of times 04:02:47.380 --> 04:02:50.340 where teams are late and people get mad at the admin 04:02:50.340 --> 04:02:53.600 for enforcing the rules, but they're there for a reason. 04:02:53.600 --> 04:02:54.440 Yeah, I am. 04:02:54.440 --> 04:02:56.580 Especially in this case, I've been extra lenient, 04:02:56.580 --> 04:02:58.820 like I gave him an extra like five minutes 04:02:58.820 --> 04:03:02.180 on top of the 15, you know, at the end of the day. 04:03:02.180 --> 04:03:03.020 Kill him, dude. 04:03:03.020 --> 04:03:03.860 Kill him already. 04:03:03.860 --> 04:03:05.460 Yeah, it's over, it's 2PM. 04:03:05.460 --> 04:03:06.620 All right, 0-7s guys, 04:03:06.620 --> 04:03:10.140 Hrock has forfeited the match by no show 04:03:10.140 --> 04:03:11.620 and Knoth moves on. 04:03:11.620 --> 04:03:14.660 What a performance from Knoth, holy moly, he moves on. 04:03:14.660 --> 04:03:16.900 That's crazy, dude, he's a really good player, 04:03:16.900 --> 04:03:19.580 he just won in zero seconds, that's fantastic. 04:03:19.580 --> 04:03:22.540 Knoth wins a truck with an admin loss. 04:03:22.540 --> 04:03:24.500 GG, GG Knoth moves on. 04:03:26.860 --> 04:03:27.700 All right. 04:03:27.700 --> 04:03:29.300 Sick, the rush strats are getting better and better. 04:03:29.300 --> 04:03:31.020 Yeah, that's a really fast rush. 04:03:31.020 --> 04:03:32.740 Guys, thank you for the cast by the way. 04:03:32.740 --> 04:03:34.580 I loved your insight on this one. 04:03:34.580 --> 04:03:35.420 Um. 04:03:35.420 --> 04:03:36.780 No, we're done. 04:03:36.780 --> 04:03:44.780 Alright, let me see what we're doing next here. I think the admin has to get us some information. 04:03:44.780 --> 04:03:50.780 I think WAGA is not up next. I think we're going to move on to the upper bracket semi-finals. 04:03:50.780 --> 04:03:54.780 So probably Captain Lance vs you, Thermal next, is what's going to happen. 04:03:54.780 --> 04:03:57.780 I don't even know if you guys are casting that, if you have another casted by the way. 04:03:57.780 --> 04:04:01.780 I'm going to let my admin take care of the situation, but yeah, we'll see what happens. 04:04:06.780 --> 04:04:15.180 Alright, they can cast it, okay nice, we're good for the cast, we're going to get started 04:04:15.180 --> 04:04:20.100 with the next set right away, you thermal versus captain Lance, Waga and Sing Sing, I 04:04:20.100 --> 04:04:23.600 need you guys to just fill a few minutes of commentary as I take a little break here 04:04:23.600 --> 04:04:26.740 and then we're going to get started with the next set, so you thermal and captain 04:04:26.740 --> 04:04:33.140 Lance will get started as well in a second, let me just quickly tell them to wait. 04:04:33.140 --> 04:04:37.260 Did you see, in the game by the way, seeing where we played, I think it was the first game. 04:04:37.260 --> 04:04:40.620 At one point, one of my treps was shooting and moving. 04:04:40.620 --> 04:04:42.380 Like I had a moving trep. 04:04:42.380 --> 04:04:44.460 I actually bug abused against you. 04:04:44.460 --> 04:04:45.460 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 04:04:45.460 --> 04:04:46.460 Are you cheating too? 04:04:46.460 --> 04:04:47.460 What is this? 04:04:47.460 --> 04:04:48.460 I did, I did. 04:04:48.460 --> 04:04:50.460 I'll show you, I'll show you. 04:04:50.460 --> 04:04:53.460 Here, put it in the clip chat. 04:04:53.460 --> 04:04:58.060 Wait, wait, what did you just do? 04:04:58.060 --> 04:05:00.700 I put it in the Harris chapter where I get banned. 04:05:00.700 --> 04:05:01.700 I'll put it there too. 04:05:01.700 --> 04:05:02.700 Here you go. 04:05:02.700 --> 04:05:06.700 I can't show it on stream because I'm not here, but you can click it. 04:05:06.700 --> 04:05:10.700 It's in the chat. 04:05:10.700 --> 04:05:16.700 That one Trebson is hacking it. 04:05:16.700 --> 04:05:19.700 I didn't know that I had the moving Trebson Britons. 04:05:19.700 --> 04:05:21.700 That's OP. 04:05:21.700 --> 04:05:27.700 They're wheels. 04:05:27.700 --> 04:05:29.700 We got to redo the match. 04:05:32.700 --> 04:05:35.700 Oh, that match was fucked up actually. I think I would have won if my king didn't die at the end. 04:05:35.700 --> 04:05:38.700 I didn't realize he got knocked out of the town center. 04:05:41.700 --> 04:05:44.700 Oh, I just had to clean up that army of longbows in the middle. 04:05:45.700 --> 04:05:49.700 I saw him get knocked out, immediately target him with all the longbowmen. 04:05:49.700 --> 04:05:52.700 I'm like, good luck against Ballistics dude, good luck. 04:05:53.700 --> 04:05:54.700 Yeah, it's hooked up. 04:05:54.700 --> 04:06:01.700 You got like, 60 arrows in his ass. 04:06:09.700 --> 04:06:13.700 For anyone who doesn't know in chat, by the way, Singsing is known as the Bug Magnets. 04:06:13.700 --> 04:06:15.700 Any game you play, he finds the bugs. 04:06:15.700 --> 04:06:17.700 The whole, the moving treb. 04:06:17.700 --> 04:06:19.700 If you ever want to clean up a game, just invite Singsing. 04:06:19.700 --> 04:06:22.700 It'd be great to find all these things for you. 04:06:22.700 --> 04:06:27.020 Fuck was so fucked up dudes. My whole base was blacked out. Like what the fuck? 04:06:29.540 --> 04:06:31.540 Oh yeah, that too. 04:06:37.280 --> 04:06:41.260 I've seen that bug before. Like the whole time we played this with leather and everything. 04:06:42.300 --> 04:06:46.940 That moving trap thing? I've never seen it. No, no, no, no. The base just blacking out. 04:06:47.580 --> 04:06:51.340 Oh, oh yeah. I guess did you ever have that many mangles? I don't know. 04:06:51.340 --> 04:07:09.180 I was scared at first and then I realized how much the out range is useless. 04:07:09.180 --> 04:07:12.080 I mean it was theory crafted against your mag yard that you were going to go for the 04:07:12.080 --> 04:07:16.140 horse archers and the hussar and that maybe you bring mangoes and then I looked up the 04:07:16.140 --> 04:07:20.380 range and I'm like, huh, should be fine, the spam archer. 04:07:20.380 --> 04:07:24.620 As long as I get a sieve where I can just make one unit and be fine, I think I'm a good player. 04:07:28.300 --> 04:07:33.020 I think that MangaDai would have still won actually, if I just all in this and then figure out any other unit. 04:07:33.820 --> 04:07:39.180 If I never was a siege all in this, and I just went all in MangaDai, I think that still beats the Longbowman. 04:07:39.180 --> 04:07:41.820 A lot, a lot of MangaDai, yeah, maybe. 04:07:42.860 --> 04:07:49.660 Maybe. The Longbowmen are really cost effective against them though, but yeah, if you mass produce, you could probably take one. 04:07:49.660 --> 04:07:59.660 I saw you with Larry, I saw that f**king GC practice. 04:07:59.660 --> 04:08:02.460 Oh, lurking in your channel. 04:08:02.460 --> 04:08:05.660 The horse archer vs crossbow, uh, screaming. 04:08:05.660 --> 04:08:16.060 Yeah, I've never played that matchup before, man, I don't know what to do, f**k. 04:08:16.060 --> 04:08:19.500 Have you ever made a ram in the AoE 2? You made them all the time in the AoE 4 dude. 04:08:20.300 --> 04:08:21.420 Yeah I make them sometimes. 04:08:23.420 --> 04:08:26.220 Yeah I never played that matchup and never played the Armenians before. 04:08:26.220 --> 04:08:27.580 Although I knew it was coming there. 04:08:27.980 --> 04:08:30.620 I thought the scouts were enough against the Armenian longswords. 04:08:31.580 --> 04:08:32.220 Oh yeah. 04:08:32.220 --> 04:08:33.820 No not the Armenian longswords, the Romans. 04:08:33.820 --> 04:08:35.260 It was the Romans. 04:08:36.060 --> 04:08:39.260 The Romans are tough. They're very armored. Very platey boys. 04:08:39.900 --> 04:08:43.500 Even the spearman I can possibly kill with the plus two armor. It's insane. 04:08:43.500 --> 04:08:46.780 I just had to go archers in that game, it was chill. 04:08:46.780 --> 04:08:48.660 That's so much time to go archers. 04:08:48.660 --> 04:08:57.660 Yeah, Archers would have been better for sure. 04:08:57.660 --> 04:09:02.180 They're very tanky. 04:09:02.180 --> 04:09:05.100 I like these dragged out feudal age forever games. 04:09:05.100 --> 04:09:06.100 Never go Castle Age. 04:09:06.100 --> 04:09:08.100 Just stay fucking feudal. 04:09:08.100 --> 04:09:12.180 Yeah, yeah, that much more fun than the best castle wash games 04:09:13.500 --> 04:09:19.580 Yeah, cuz those are cheesy. It's like you're playing and then suddenly oh opponent shows up with two big army and you lost at least here 04:09:19.580 --> 04:09:21.980 It's like you're brawling the entire time. It's it feels like 04:09:22.620 --> 04:09:25.020 Blading in Dota, you know, it's like bathroom for it 04:09:26.340 --> 04:09:30.340 Otherwise you skip laning stage. You just hop into a big team fire. It's like, oh opponent has big me 04:09:31.260 --> 04:09:34.100 That's what the fossil wash is so lame because it's kept like everything 04:09:34.100 --> 04:09:38.540 It does play five minutes. You literally just play five minutes and that's all 04:09:43.380 --> 04:09:46.340 Yeah, I'm back and back and back but you saw eating right now 04:09:47.380 --> 04:09:51.940 No, no, I'm not eating. I swear. There's no calories consumed in the last five minutes on my on my household 04:09:52.340 --> 04:09:56.660 It's all good. I think we're starting or no, that's the last game 04:09:56.660 --> 04:09:59.020 I should be starting soon. Let me just set up the cameras. Of course 04:09:59.020 --> 04:10:04.020 We need to get the next guys in here. Knoff is going to be hung up on. 04:10:04.020 --> 04:10:08.020 You throw them over to Captain Lan's going to get set up. So very, very nice. 04:10:08.020 --> 04:10:11.020 Let's start putting those guys in. 04:10:11.020 --> 04:10:14.020 All right. There we go. 04:10:14.020 --> 04:10:16.020 There we go. 04:10:16.020 --> 04:10:20.020 And they can start. 04:10:20.020 --> 04:10:23.020 All right. 04:10:29.020 --> 04:10:33.780 Alright, we're just waiting for the first match to get started now. 04:10:33.780 --> 04:10:39.340 WagonMog was saying thank you so much for kind of filling in the time, and I don't know 04:10:39.340 --> 04:10:41.340 what you guys talked about, but I hope you guys are excited for this next match. 04:10:41.340 --> 04:10:45.620 We're going to show the bracket one more time here for the people at home, to explain 04:10:45.620 --> 04:10:46.620 what happened. 04:10:46.620 --> 04:10:50.980 Hrock had an admin loss against Knopf, a forfeit due to a no-show, so Knopf moved 04:10:50.980 --> 04:10:54.420 on down to Swedes in the lower bracket, are kind of going crazy here. 04:10:54.420 --> 04:10:55.940 We're now in the top six by the way. 04:10:55.940 --> 04:10:59.580 So, Singsing and Atroc get top 8, top 6 remaining here. 04:10:59.580 --> 04:11:01.700 Captain Lance, your thermal grubby pig. 04:11:01.700 --> 04:11:04.380 I'm gonna fight to figure out the last four players, 04:11:04.380 --> 04:11:06.540 the top four for the final day tomorrow. 04:11:08.260 --> 04:11:09.660 What do you guys make of this matchup here? 04:11:09.660 --> 04:11:12.540 So, we're gonna have, your thermal versus Captain Lance. 04:11:12.540 --> 04:11:15.420 Captain Lance ended up being the first place captain. 04:11:15.420 --> 04:11:17.340 Your thermal is the fourth place captain. 04:11:17.340 --> 04:11:19.220 However, I feel like a lot of us think 04:11:19.220 --> 04:11:20.980 that your thermal is the favorite for this matchup. 04:11:20.980 --> 04:11:22.300 What do you guys make of it? 04:11:22.300 --> 04:11:23.740 Captain Face-Off here. 04:11:23.740 --> 04:11:26.340 I actually think it's like dead even. 04:11:26.340 --> 04:11:28.820 I don't know if I favor one of them. 04:11:28.820 --> 04:11:33.140 I think anyone can take it because like you thermal is sharpening up in his mechanics are 04:11:33.140 --> 04:11:36.660 like really clean now I think and like he's looking very impressive. 04:11:36.660 --> 04:11:38.260 He I screamed some game against him. 04:11:38.260 --> 04:11:40.140 He actually just ran me over. 04:11:40.140 --> 04:11:42.620 It was so easy for him. 04:11:42.620 --> 04:11:44.820 So that's a bit disheartening for me. 04:11:44.820 --> 04:11:48.660 But captain has on the other hand, I mean, he saw what happened in my game against 04:11:48.660 --> 04:11:49.660 him. 04:11:49.660 --> 04:11:51.660 I don't know. He is also very keen. 04:11:52.660 --> 04:11:53.660 Absolutely. 04:11:53.660 --> 04:11:56.660 It's like a walk of tricks, right? Like, there's so many random threats. 04:11:56.660 --> 04:12:01.660 It's like random fossil strats, random sieves, this and that, humans coming around nowhere suddenly. 04:12:02.660 --> 04:12:03.660 It's scary. 04:12:04.660 --> 04:12:08.660 And I think Yuturamori, he pretty much is like only one place though, and that's just like scout rush into archers. 04:12:09.660 --> 04:12:12.660 Yeah, he seems to be loving that style actually. It's a very, very interesting one. 04:12:14.660 --> 04:12:15.660 Yeah, this is so powerful. 04:12:15.660 --> 04:12:23.660 But yeah guys, welcome in to the viewers here. I think we got thousands and thousands of people here waiting for this Captain V Captain face-off. 04:12:23.660 --> 04:12:27.660 He's thermal playing as the Italians against Captain Lance playing as the Cumans. 04:12:27.660 --> 04:12:31.660 Captain Lance with the Cumans, he's shown this strategy twice. He's won both times. 04:12:31.660 --> 04:12:37.660 Singsing has copied it and also won with the Cumans. And that's the fourth time we're seeing it from Captain Lance again. 04:12:37.660 --> 04:12:42.660 Singsing, someone's copied the strategy. Why do you copy it and what do you think of the strategy? 04:12:42.660 --> 04:12:46.660 Did it seem powerful enough for you to just copy and try it yourself? 04:12:54.660 --> 04:12:59.660 Alright, good talk, Sing Sing. Thank you for the excellent feedback. Very, very nice. 04:12:59.660 --> 04:13:00.660 Did you hear that? 04:13:00.660 --> 04:13:01.660 Oh, I'm sorry, I was muted. 04:13:01.660 --> 04:13:02.660 Oh, no worries. 04:13:02.660 --> 04:13:04.660 Yeah, I'm trying to get into the game. 04:13:04.660 --> 04:13:07.660 You can watch on my screen if you want. I'm sharing the screen. 04:13:07.660 --> 04:13:09.660 Yeah, you can watch on Discord, shared. 04:13:09.660 --> 04:13:10.660 Oh! 04:13:10.660 --> 04:13:13.780 we'll get here a few weeks but i can't stream this 04:13:15.380 --> 04:13:22.020 and then okay no problem uh oh hf just responded he just woke up oh my god oh my god hf just woke up 04:13:23.060 --> 04:13:26.740 oh my god oh my god 04:13:30.500 --> 04:13:32.900 uh worst case really that's the worst case 04:13:35.060 --> 04:13:39.140 dude is it unprofessional if i ask noff to play if i just offer a more price 04:13:39.140 --> 04:13:42.600 I don't even know what to do like it's it if this is a pro term. It's too late 04:13:42.600 --> 04:13:46.180 But like I don't know what to do. I'll see my my advocate cook up 04:13:46.180 --> 04:13:48.180 But I think it might just be too late 04:13:48.740 --> 04:13:52.660 Look at the lobby code, by the way, I'm gonna send it to you on the DMs 04:13:55.260 --> 04:13:57.860 I should meet you while you're thinking on it 04:14:00.180 --> 04:14:03.060 You fuck yeah, you should send it to wagapoa 04:14:05.340 --> 04:14:06.980 Yeah 04:14:06.980 --> 04:14:09.520 Yeah, we'll see it. We'll see it. We'll see what happens with that one 04:14:09.520 --> 04:14:13.060 But it's likely to be not possible to get a truck in here 04:14:13.060 --> 04:14:16.700 But anyways for now we'll focus on this upper-backing match you thermal versus Captain Lance 04:14:16.940 --> 04:14:21.220 Talk about the Cumans a sing sing ignored me. He was muted and he was just trying to figure out how to get in 04:14:21.220 --> 04:14:23.340 but let's talk about the Cuman strategy. It's a 04:14:24.020 --> 04:14:25.380 Kipchuk 04:14:25.380 --> 04:14:28.980 fast Imperial age after a two-town center boom in feudal age and 04:14:30.660 --> 04:14:34.460 You thermal here with the Italians could be in the prime time to counter this 04:14:34.460 --> 04:14:38.180 So let's talk about why the Italians make sense here, then we'll pass it on to Waga-Mama 04:14:38.180 --> 04:14:40.540 here to give us his expert insights. 04:14:40.540 --> 04:14:42.220 Italians have a unit called the Genoese Crossbow. 04:14:42.220 --> 04:14:46.100 It's an archer-based unit that has an attack bonus versus anything on a horse. 04:14:46.100 --> 04:14:50.620 They also get cheaper age up, so cheaper feudal age, cheaper castage, cheaper imperial 04:14:50.620 --> 04:14:54.260 age, which gives them a very smooth time transitioning through the ages. 04:14:54.260 --> 04:14:59.540 So I feel like the Italians here are a great civilization to counter the Cumans. 04:14:59.540 --> 04:15:02.060 Mr. Waga, what do you make of the Italians pick something we haven't seen 04:15:02.060 --> 04:15:03.060 today? 04:15:03.060 --> 04:15:09.200 From what I looked at and what I learned, I have looked at some of the different saves. 04:15:09.200 --> 04:15:13.040 Italians for me struck me as like, oh, they're pretty capable of doing a lot of things, right? 04:15:13.040 --> 04:15:14.040 Like they're pretty versatile. 04:15:14.040 --> 04:15:16.780 They have a lot of options. 04:15:16.780 --> 04:15:18.640 And overall that seems kind of nice. 04:15:18.640 --> 04:15:23.280 I'm not sure how great their unique unit is on this map. 04:15:23.280 --> 04:15:27.440 I feel like mobility from the mounted units is really strong. 04:15:27.440 --> 04:15:30.680 We're having like a super strong death stack. 04:15:30.680 --> 04:15:33.680 I don't know how powerful the unique units of the Italians can be on this map. 04:15:34.180 --> 04:15:38.680 It's quite powerful. If they're hitting a CAV unit, it's very strong, I would say. 04:15:40.680 --> 04:15:48.680 Yeah, overall I think they seem like more normal to me whereas humans I think they're the big question mark 04:15:48.680 --> 04:15:52.680 because they get stuck in this weird part where, okay, you're feudal age, you have your double TC 04:15:52.680 --> 04:15:58.680 and you start booming, but now you're in a completely unique path to castle age and imperial age 04:15:58.680 --> 04:16:05.560 every other sip in the game. This is so unknown territory to me and I think at some point you've 04:16:05.560 --> 04:16:10.760 got to make the choice, right? When you leave this feudal age, start working towards that castle age. 04:16:11.800 --> 04:16:16.120 Yeah, so the 2TC boom for those who might not know here, it's unique to the Cumans. It's the 04:16:16.120 --> 04:16:20.200 only civilization that can make a town center in the feudal age and so this is going to allow 04:16:20.200 --> 04:16:23.640 Captain Lance to increase his village account nice and early. The thermal, of course, 04:16:23.640 --> 04:16:27.240 has to wait till a castle age. Like every other sip in the game, but he's doing so beautifully 04:16:27.240 --> 04:16:30.520 with a nice fast cast. So look at that. Good timing on the click here. 04:16:30.520 --> 04:16:34.440 24 pop or 24 villagers that day. 26 pop for your Thermal. 04:16:34.440 --> 04:16:37.480 Capmance going to be increasing in the villager count. But of course, 04:16:37.480 --> 04:16:40.440 once you Thermal gets the cast sledge, he can not only make a 2-town center boom 04:16:40.440 --> 04:16:43.240 happen. He can make a 3-town center, especially even a 4-town center boom 04:16:43.240 --> 04:16:47.960 happen himself. So you usually are able to catch up in villagers and res collected 04:16:48.520 --> 04:16:51.400 compared to the Cumans. But Capmance is 2-0 with the strategy. 04:16:51.400 --> 04:16:55.800 We had syncing earlier that employed it and won. It's very powerful and I think that the 04:16:55.800 --> 04:17:00.480 the Cumans will try it again here in Captain Lance's hands. I will see how this plays out, 04:17:00.480 --> 04:17:06.960 but I think QTC boom into the fast, forward cast with Kipchuk has been his go-to strategy. 04:17:06.960 --> 04:17:12.360 That's a nice unit to control the field as well. The Kipchuk seems like... 04:17:12.360 --> 04:17:15.600 How does it work? It has extra shots, right? When it shoots? 04:17:15.600 --> 04:17:20.040 Yeah, so it's like the Chukunu. Oh, actually, it's not really like the... Wait, hold 04:17:20.040 --> 04:17:23.360 on. Is it like the Chukunu? Yeah, it is like the Chukunu. It shoots extra shots 04:17:23.360 --> 04:17:30.080 and it sounds like a horse, so it has that extra mobility factor, but yeah, it just shoots extra shots from the, from the horse. 04:17:31.880 --> 04:17:32.380 Hmm. 04:17:32.380 --> 04:17:42.880 Yeah, because I was looking at it, and I got curious, curious about how it works if you, like, do they have bonus damage against the unit type and do those extra shots have that too? 04:17:42.880 --> 04:17:46.040 Oh, they only have plus one against your men. Never mind, it's not so unique. 04:17:46.040 --> 04:17:50.520 No, but it's a good question. So those extra shots only deal one damage, by the way, just so you know, in general. 04:17:50.520 --> 04:17:56.040 So like the main shot from the from the Kipchak does full damage and the extra shots only do one damage 04:17:56.040 --> 04:18:01.360 So it's not like you're getting insane, you know DPS from the back line from the Kipchaks. It is pretty good 04:18:01.920 --> 04:18:04.760 But it's not anything absurd out of this world 04:18:04.760 --> 04:18:07.640 It mainly helps you against high pure summer targets 04:18:07.640 --> 04:18:13.480 So for example a Huskroll the goth unique unit has really high pure summer most archery unit deal one damage no matter 04:18:13.480 --> 04:18:18.300 How much attack they have whereas the Kipchak even if it's dealing one damage to the main projectile because it shoots two more 04:18:18.300 --> 04:18:22.740 you deal three damage per volley against the Huskrow. 04:18:22.740 --> 04:18:26.760 So it's really good against high-pierce armor targets, not to be the case in this game though 04:18:26.760 --> 04:18:28.920 because the Italians don't really have any high-pierce armor targets. 04:18:28.920 --> 04:18:31.380 We see the Italians just set up the 3TC boom here. 04:18:31.380 --> 04:18:34.440 So while the humans will pull ahead and rest collected and the villager counts, 04:18:34.440 --> 04:18:37.020 you thermal is looking to close that gap with the 3TC boom. 04:18:38.780 --> 04:18:41.780 He's building up a strong economy behind this and you know, 04:18:41.780 --> 04:18:44.460 this is where sure you had your villager advantage early on, 04:18:44.460 --> 04:18:51.740 But your thermal is trying to close in and get his own eco going as well as well as being able to get those eco upgrades now getting the 04:18:52.620 --> 04:18:54.620 wood gathering upgrade 04:18:54.820 --> 04:18:57.500 Yeah, a little bose audition. That's a good point actually Wagga 04:18:57.500 --> 04:19:00.900 Look at you, bro in the top six and actually pointing out some good shit here 04:19:00.900 --> 04:19:03.420 What upgrade is a huge advantage to the guy in castle edge? 04:19:03.420 --> 04:19:07.420 So not only is the guy in feudal edge only having the two town center 04:19:07.420 --> 04:19:10.220 He also is stuck on feudal edge economy upgrades which are decent 04:19:10.220 --> 04:19:13.380 but of course bose odd does give a nice little boost to you thermal and 04:19:13.380 --> 04:19:17.980 And it tends to be a little bit of a boom map, but let me get your take on this, Mr. Waga. 04:19:17.980 --> 04:19:21.980 How do you enjoy Redis and Fortress, and how do you enjoy the element of having that king? 04:19:21.980 --> 04:19:26.480 For me personally, I think it's been fantastic, but I want to know how you feel as a player in this tournament. 04:19:26.480 --> 04:19:31.780 Okay, at first, I was so scared realizing that, hold up, this is a map I had never played. 04:19:31.780 --> 04:19:36.980 It wasn't even in the map pool, but I actually liked this map a lot more than I ended up liking Arena, 04:19:36.980 --> 04:19:39.280 even though I played Arena, you know, several times. 04:19:39.280 --> 04:19:43.040 Because I find the gameplay on this map is so accelerated. 04:19:43.040 --> 04:19:45.240 In a pretty good way, it doesn't feel wrong, 04:19:45.240 --> 04:19:48.920 but you have this ease of playing into your unique units. 04:19:48.920 --> 04:19:51.920 So every sieve feels very different on this map. 04:19:51.920 --> 04:19:54.920 And you can really lean into the sieve's strengths. 04:19:54.920 --> 04:19:58.720 So, and I thought it would be hard to play aggro on this map too, 04:19:58.720 --> 04:20:00.720 but that's been proven to not be the case. 04:20:00.720 --> 04:20:03.040 Yeah, like we've seen some really aggro strategies. 04:20:03.040 --> 04:20:05.600 You can't play aggro in the same sense that you can play aggro on a raid, 04:20:05.600 --> 04:20:06.880 but like no minute arm rush works, 04:20:06.880 --> 04:20:10.000 You can't just like send units against the wall and hope that you can break in 04:20:10.000 --> 04:20:11.940 You have to like calculate aggression 04:20:11.940 --> 04:20:16.320 But even if you just make a little bit of your unique unit you pressure behind woodlands that can be pretty solid 04:20:16.320 --> 04:20:18.640 But it comes down to usually a lot of economy 04:20:18.640 --> 04:20:24.100 But like you said Waga in an accelerated fashion my favorite part about this map actually is the fact that after the boom 04:20:24.100 --> 04:20:29.680 It's an open map. I like that a lot more than arena sometimes where it's like you're fighting in one area all the time 04:20:29.680 --> 04:20:33.680 Whereas in this map there's a lot of like running around controlling woodlines all that good stuff. I 04:20:33.680 --> 04:20:39.080 I'd be pretty scared if I was captain last right now because he's sitting there booming, 04:20:39.080 --> 04:20:42.320 you know, the feudal booming, he's picked up the castle now. 04:20:42.320 --> 04:20:45.440 And sure, Villager count is great, but he doesn't have much scouting information. 04:20:45.440 --> 04:20:48.920 He started to wall off a bit, but look at your thermal already going behind the woodline 04:20:48.920 --> 04:20:50.920 scouting with this ranged unit. 04:20:50.920 --> 04:20:52.880 You know, nice, nice to get behind there. 04:20:52.880 --> 04:20:56.880 And this is something I talked to you thermal about how arena and this map, you really 04:20:56.880 --> 04:20:59.160 need to get some information what your opponent is doing. 04:20:59.160 --> 04:21:00.160 You need to see something. 04:21:00.160 --> 04:21:06.240 So he saw the TC, he noticed it to TC boomer, it was very predictable, but yeah, it's good to confirm that for sure 04:21:06.240 --> 04:21:11.280 By the way, Catalan is doing something very unorthodox. He's making two ranges and he's going to go for some skirm production 04:21:11.280 --> 04:21:14.940 This is literally not like this is not the meta at all 04:21:14.940 --> 04:21:20.200 This is not anything he's done before and this is a direct response to seeing the Genoese crossbow 04:21:20.320 --> 04:21:24.080 Which I think is a great a crazy adaptation. He wants to force that castle forward 04:21:24.080 --> 04:21:29.180 I believe and he's making skirmishes to fight for the map control before sending the Vils forward 04:21:29.180 --> 04:21:32.940 That's my read of the situation so far, but definitely he is committed to some skirmishers now. 04:21:32.940 --> 04:21:36.780 Four skirmishers made and walking across the map, looking for this Genovese crossbow. 04:21:36.780 --> 04:21:37.980 Interesting play from Lance. 04:21:39.980 --> 04:21:46.280 Yeah, I guess he's feeling like this is a nicer play than leaning on his unique unit in this specific matchup. 04:21:46.280 --> 04:21:46.780 Yeah. 04:21:46.780 --> 04:21:52.380 He's gonna get out there and get that valuable scouting information, even if he doesn't necessarily kill anything, just seeing what's out there. 04:21:52.380 --> 04:21:56.380 Make sure you don't have a Siege workshop right outside your base at this point, feels pretty good to know. 04:21:56.380 --> 04:22:00.820 And he's actually not gonna go for the fast imp. He's gonna go for that 4 TC boom 04:22:00.820 --> 04:22:06.660 I talked about this a while back the village count is evened out, but now Lance is gonna turbo into the 4 TC 04:22:06.700 --> 04:22:12.160 This is the second option that the Cummins can do so he's really mixing it up for this upper bracket game here 04:22:12.300 --> 04:22:17.840 Love that he shows the fast imp twice before you thermalist probably expecting the fast imp 04:22:17.840 --> 04:22:21.820 He might be even preparing for the fast imp by trying to go for a fast himself 04:22:21.820 --> 04:22:27.380 Trying to get some army on the field and not let the forward castle come through but Lance is just walling up the entire map 04:22:27.380 --> 04:22:30.960 Take a look at this monster house wall, and he's got a massive 4th DC boom 04:22:30.980 --> 04:22:35.580 This is a crazy out of vision from Lance in this first game of the best of five. I 04:22:36.860 --> 04:22:40.120 Like that house wall right there. He's cutting off a big chunk of the map 04:22:40.120 --> 04:22:43.220 And it will be maybe hard to hold on to all of it if a push does come 04:22:43.220 --> 04:22:47.100 But it gives him a very early warning system if there is aggression coming in on that flank 04:22:47.120 --> 04:22:50.380 Yeah, and he's setting up good area. They can now use for farming, right? 04:22:50.380 --> 04:22:56.280 That's one of the hard things about this map when you start booming with 4 TC that takes a lot of farms and that needs space 04:22:56.400 --> 04:22:58.480 So he's giving himself that yeah 04:22:58.480 --> 04:23:02.140 I secure a lot of space and it has a lot of benefits actually so number one 04:23:02.140 --> 04:23:06.040 You can get the space that we talked about number two you can get those relics to secure them in your base 04:23:06.040 --> 04:23:09.820 You can pick them up later and number three you make so many houses that you don't get house 04:23:09.820 --> 04:23:14.660 Which is actually if you ever played a drumfires. That's a pretty good thing to have for yourself. I 04:23:15.620 --> 04:23:18.240 Think I've had a series where I didn't get house this is single point 04:23:18.240 --> 04:23:21.440 So yeah, it's probably a nice play. I should take some notes here 04:23:21.720 --> 04:23:25.520 By the way, I think we missed it, but I think Captain Lance lost his scout to the boar 04:23:26.000 --> 04:23:29.620 Because he's got a one extra death that didn't come from his opponent's kill 04:23:29.640 --> 04:23:33.780 So I'm 90% certain that Captain Lance has lost his scout to the boar 04:23:33.800 --> 04:23:38.000 Which is pretty significant because that means that he doesn't have a scout in this early game 04:23:38.000 --> 04:23:42.000 And he's kind of getting bullied by you thermal scout now and might lose a villager unless you can get some quick walls 04:23:42.000 --> 04:23:46.260 Oh, that's why you want two villagers together, right? 04:23:46.260 --> 04:23:47.260 Yeah. 04:23:47.260 --> 04:23:48.260 This Warvill. 04:23:48.260 --> 04:23:49.260 I'm not going to be able to do anything. 04:23:49.260 --> 04:23:50.760 Good catch from you, Thermalon. 04:23:50.760 --> 04:23:51.760 And with Loom. 04:23:51.760 --> 04:23:52.760 Yeah, even with Loom. 04:23:52.760 --> 04:23:54.260 See Loom is useless. 04:23:54.260 --> 04:23:55.360 This is why you should skip Loom. 04:23:55.360 --> 04:23:57.800 He paid the 50 gold and lost to the villager anyways. 04:23:57.800 --> 04:23:59.300 Vago, it's a propaganda. 04:23:59.300 --> 04:24:01.300 Can I have one more, Will? 04:24:01.300 --> 04:24:02.300 Yeah. 04:24:02.300 --> 04:24:03.300 That's fantastic. 04:24:03.300 --> 04:24:04.300 Yeah. 04:24:04.300 --> 04:24:08.260 Loom has its downsides for sure, but the Housewall is getting punished on both sides 04:24:08.260 --> 04:24:09.260 here. 04:24:09.260 --> 04:24:11.260 The top has been completely stopped and the bottom is actually getting harassed. 04:24:11.260 --> 04:24:17.160 But we have a fifth talents enough in Captain Lance. He's going for a massive massive boom his opponent. He thermals up to Imperial 04:24:17.160 --> 04:24:17.300 Age 04:24:17.300 --> 04:24:19.300 I feel like the fact he's even was interesting 04:24:19.300 --> 04:24:24.300 But if you're a point here just three TC boom into M and just go straight down the center of the nice in push 04:24:24.300 --> 04:24:26.460 I feel like that's a pretty solid setup for the Italians 04:24:27.340 --> 04:24:33.340 Yeah, this looks fantastic for you thermal right the extra TC being added now means that captain Lance sure he's ahead by 04:24:34.620 --> 04:24:36.500 2500 resources collected so that's great 04:24:36.500 --> 04:24:44.140 But he's gonna need to sink even more resources into more farms getting the eco for all these TC productions every TC right is 04:24:45.020 --> 04:24:47.920 Consuming quite a bit of food per minute if you think about it like that 04:24:47.920 --> 04:24:52.780 So that's resources you cannot put towards your military immediately and now you thermal 04:24:53.060 --> 04:24:56.860 This imp timing is gonna be very dangerous. Yeah, but you just have to put us put on the gas 04:24:56.860 --> 04:25:00.740 So I like what you mentioned there. It's like Captain Lance. He's investing so much in the economy 04:25:00.740 --> 04:25:02.740 But it's in a delay his military 04:25:02.740 --> 04:25:12.040 Uh, all of this, like, matters, but if Uthermal just sits back and waits, then Catmulans doesn't really have that hard press or any military out on the field now, 04:25:12.040 --> 04:25:14.500 and that 5TC boom will for sure pay off for him. 04:25:14.500 --> 04:25:18.160 He's getting some production outside of his base, which is actually very menacing, 04:25:18.160 --> 04:25:21.260 because now Uthermal will see this, he'll see the stable come up, and be like, 04:25:21.260 --> 04:25:24.640 oh shit, my opponent is ready to gear up and attack me, I better defend. 04:25:25.140 --> 04:25:30.100 But, Catmulans is actually just full-booming, he's not even ready to attack, he's just pretending like he is, 04:25:30.100 --> 04:25:34.260 So there's a mind game there and I actually hate that you thermal is going for our bless 04:25:34.260 --> 04:25:40.100 Oh, I spent a thousand years talking about the Genoese crossbow, which would be 100% the better unit now 04:25:40.100 --> 04:25:45.040 But you thermal doesn't know he thinks the R bless is better. It's really strange. Wow 04:25:49.140 --> 04:25:51.900 Yeah, since they welcome back our bless, you don't like it, right? I 04:25:53.180 --> 04:25:57.360 Mean the crossbow will be against hip checks, right? Maybe because it predicts no keep just to be on the map 04:25:57.360 --> 04:26:00.260 But like even if there's no kipchaks it is gonna be what? 04:26:00.260 --> 04:26:03.260 Paladin, Hissar, humans are a cavalry based sieve 04:26:03.260 --> 04:26:06.560 so no matter what humans go for they're gonna always have some kind of cavalry 04:26:06.560 --> 04:26:09.060 in which case the genoese crossbow will get a lot of value. 04:26:09.060 --> 04:26:11.560 You think about just deciding for generic arbalest? 04:26:11.560 --> 04:26:15.460 It's a decent choice but I feel like he's giving up something better for something okay. 04:26:15.460 --> 04:26:16.560 Which feels weird. 04:26:16.560 --> 04:26:18.560 But now he's doing what you said though. 04:26:18.560 --> 04:26:19.760 Put on the gas even. 04:26:19.760 --> 04:26:23.960 So he bought wood using gold which is a limited resource on the map 04:26:23.960 --> 04:26:26.560 but he still wants to go faster so he wants to get production going. 04:26:26.560 --> 04:26:29.960 This castle that he wants to put forward though. It's gonna be denied for now 04:26:29.960 --> 04:26:32.480 Yeah, and he's get some army that I'm not gonna do it 04:26:32.480 --> 04:26:37.020 Like I could kill that easily the castle kind of denied or let's say pushed back from Captain Lancer 04:26:37.020 --> 04:26:41.200 Come on, so the good job of getting out in the math with army not giving his opponent a free game 04:26:41.200 --> 04:26:43.200 We'll play from him. He's trying to repair 04:26:44.120 --> 04:26:46.500 Not gonna be enough. I guess when all the scouts come in no way near 04:26:49.240 --> 04:26:55.920 I stopped preparing this place be he's really working on it. Yeah, but I think yeah, I'd go yeah 04:26:55.920 --> 04:26:58.920 He needs R-Blessed. He's got only two ranges, by the way. 04:26:58.920 --> 04:27:00.920 He's got only two ranges. 04:27:00.920 --> 04:27:03.920 He's trying to force a forward castle, but I think he's got almost kind of choking this one. 04:27:03.920 --> 04:27:06.920 The third one has not shown the best fortified... 04:27:06.920 --> 04:27:09.920 fortified Red side fortress civilization. 04:27:09.920 --> 04:27:12.920 Sorry, he hasn't shown the best Red side fortress gameplay so far. 04:27:12.920 --> 04:27:16.920 It's been his weakest map in comparison to what he's known for on something like Arabia. 04:27:16.920 --> 04:27:20.920 He needs more ranges for sure, and a very late wheelbarrow. 04:27:20.920 --> 04:27:23.920 I don't know, I feel like Cap Lanz is actually all over him right now. 04:27:23.920 --> 04:27:28.460 Yeah, it's strange because Captain Lance, we talked about how he was going pretty greedy 04:27:28.460 --> 04:27:32.240 and it will take a bit of time before he goes, but the Thermal is still only with two military 04:27:32.240 --> 04:27:34.440 units there and sending the Manganel forward. 04:27:34.440 --> 04:27:35.940 He just needed those basic units. 04:27:35.940 --> 04:27:40.520 You talk about needing the men and the siege sometimes, you have too little of either. 04:27:40.520 --> 04:27:46.680 Here you have too little of both. 04:27:46.680 --> 04:27:48.680 Ballistics coming in. 04:27:48.680 --> 04:27:50.920 Captain Lance is gearing up to the map here. 04:27:50.920 --> 04:27:55.520 I think Seedram's a good tool. I think Seedrams have been getting a lot of value this term in general. 04:27:55.520 --> 04:28:00.400 I would like to see more of that. I think actually Synxing could have used some Seedram in your game with the Mongols. 04:28:00.400 --> 04:28:01.300 Did you consider it Synxing? 04:28:01.300 --> 04:28:01.800 Yeah. 04:28:02.440 --> 04:28:05.940 I didn't know the matchup at all. 04:28:05.940 --> 04:28:10.000 I considered it at the end, but then I didn't have the resources anymore to upgrade stuff. 04:28:10.000 --> 04:28:13.400 Yeah, yeah. That's the problem. Sometimes you gotta know beforehand... 04:28:13.400 --> 04:28:16.300 Dude, he really wants this middle of the map castle. Like, you throw him out of this. 04:28:16.300 --> 04:28:18.640 Dude, he'd give up everything for this middle of the map castle. 04:28:18.640 --> 04:28:25.560 From scrims on the field, no bracer for the Cumans, these skirmishers are okay, but not fully upgraded, so just decent for the time being. 04:28:25.560 --> 04:28:30.640 Cavalry on the field is okay, they'll get picked off though, your thermal's got some good R-Bless micro. 04:28:34.360 --> 04:28:37.960 Well what's the ideal human army here in late game, cause they look kinda shit to me in late game. 04:28:38.560 --> 04:28:42.480 Cumans don't have the best late game, but they have some decent options that if used well are solid. 04:28:42.480 --> 04:28:46.640 So they have fully upgraded Hissar, they have some decent skirmishers with full armor at the very least, 04:28:46.640 --> 04:28:49.640 They have fully upgraded Halbid Ears, which is a decent option for them. 04:28:49.640 --> 04:28:51.640 I believe they also get fully upgraded Champions. 04:28:51.640 --> 04:28:54.640 And then they have a decent Kipchak, alongside Siege Jam and Siege Onager. 04:28:54.640 --> 04:28:58.640 So pretty solid, flexible options, but no crazy power unit. 04:28:59.640 --> 04:29:02.640 Yeah, they don't have the Bombard Cannon, right? That's the difference as well between these two? 04:29:02.640 --> 04:29:03.640 Yeah. 04:29:03.640 --> 04:29:05.640 Like Bombard Cannon available for Italians, but not for the humans, 04:29:05.640 --> 04:29:08.640 which have been a very strong unit whenever games go really late. 04:29:08.640 --> 04:29:09.640 Yeah. 04:29:09.640 --> 04:29:12.640 And Bombard's super solid here, and some rams are already coming out. 04:29:12.640 --> 04:29:16.480 out. Captain Lance is using the Hussar flood to just keep the villagers at bay and of course right 04:29:16.480 --> 04:29:20.960 here Genoese Quaspo would outperform the Arbalest, but even if you are going Arbalest you have no 04:29:20.960 --> 04:29:27.040 chemistry, you have no armor upgrades, only one. This is a very weak army for Uthermal and I feel 04:29:27.040 --> 04:29:32.960 like Captain Lance is just kind of making short work of this. And also trading cost effectively, 04:29:32.960 --> 04:29:37.520 he's just sending trash. These are food and wood units, he's trading against gold units 04:29:37.520 --> 04:29:42.400 and also keeping my Uthermal earlier by using his gold, wow he's actually just down. 04:29:42.400 --> 04:29:46.480 Wow very very questionable game from your thermal like I will say 04:29:46.960 --> 04:29:52.240 Catalanth I think just mind game you thermal completely your thermal probably thought as the point was going to go for the fast 04:29:52.240 --> 04:29:58.400 Imp the one that he's done twice before catalanth is kind of showing his knowledge of age of embarrass to here 04:29:59.040 --> 04:30:01.840 Kind of changing up the game plan going for the massive human boom 04:30:02.080 --> 04:30:07.280 Which is definitely something they can do and do very effectively and I think your thermal really panicked into that 04:30:07.280 --> 04:30:09.440 I don't think he knew what to do and uh 04:30:09.440 --> 04:30:14.380 He kind of had a very basic game plan of R-Blessed Castle forward, but that was easily 04:30:14.380 --> 04:30:15.380 stopped from Captain Lance. 04:30:15.380 --> 04:30:19.780 A bit surprising seeing as he said, what there, surprised by his very thermal performance 04:30:19.780 --> 04:30:20.780 here? 04:30:20.780 --> 04:30:23.780 Yeah, I thought he could have kept playing it for a bit too, no? 04:30:23.780 --> 04:30:24.780 I think so. 04:30:24.780 --> 04:30:27.740 It's also a bit of a weird game because it was like no leather control, they didn't 04:30:27.740 --> 04:30:29.260 really break the walls even. 04:30:29.260 --> 04:30:30.260 Yeah. 04:30:30.260 --> 04:30:33.780 He could have played back a little bit, maybe, you know, like an archer ball going, 04:30:33.780 --> 04:30:35.460 but then I just gave up like instantly. 04:30:35.460 --> 04:30:38.580 Yeah, I think there's a lot to play for still, like, okay, we lost a lot of 04:30:38.580 --> 04:30:42.860 Villagers lost a few Arbalest, but we still have tons of resources in the bank. We still have a lot of gold in our walls 04:30:42.860 --> 04:30:45.340 Like we don't really have to rush this we're going to use to expand some stone 04:30:45.740 --> 04:30:47.580 We're expanding to the gold out here 04:30:47.580 --> 04:30:52.040 We could easily just set up an Arbalest ball in here go for some Hussars or some pikemen ourselves 04:30:52.060 --> 04:30:54.940 In the back and just move out when we have a bit more army 04:30:54.940 --> 04:31:00.740 I think you just rushed it to the center and I really don't know why but your thermal has not been the most solid on this map and 04:31:01.300 --> 04:31:05.460 Even without a king side but then she just kind of calls it here and maybe preserving the mental 04:31:05.460 --> 04:31:12.660 Maybe you just don't want to get tilted, I think, and the next map is going to be Arabia from your thermal, looking to get back on something that he can attack early on, fair enough. 04:31:14.020 --> 04:31:16.020 Yeah, he's getting the first big point. 04:31:18.700 --> 04:31:28.140 I do think there's at least something to be said, but, you know, okay, if you're going to resign a game a little bit early, at least you save yourself the mental drain of just sitting there and losing and losing and losing. 04:31:28.140 --> 04:31:31.100 He was sending units into a meat grinder, essentially. 04:31:31.100 --> 04:31:35.440 But you know he'll head into a different map he gets his pick now and these are best of five 04:31:35.440 --> 04:31:37.580 So you have a lot of time to like recover 04:31:37.580 --> 04:31:43.940 But this early lead is a comfort zone for captain lines because of how a BO5 works here if you win the first one 04:31:44.260 --> 04:31:48.320 You will have two maps that you choose if you win both of them 04:31:48.860 --> 04:31:51.840 You will win the series right if you win the first game 04:31:51.840 --> 04:31:57.800 You will be able to win by just winning your choices as you move forward a little bit confusing way toward it, but I 04:31:57.800 --> 04:32:02.140 Yeah, I see what you mean, yeah, it's like if you want the neutral maps and not all you 04:32:02.140 --> 04:32:05.620 have to do is you have to win your home maps, see if they managed to do it. 04:32:05.620 --> 04:32:06.620 Yeah. 04:32:06.620 --> 04:32:08.420 Just kind of messing around with the cameras a little bit. 04:32:08.420 --> 04:32:11.260 Hopefully this will be decent. 04:32:11.260 --> 04:32:15.460 And obviously now at a good chance to even take Uthermal's home map if Captain Lance 04:32:15.460 --> 04:32:16.460 can do that. 04:32:16.460 --> 04:32:17.460 But yeah, this is what I expected. 04:32:17.460 --> 04:32:21.700 Uthermal is higher MMR, but Captain Lance, man, you cannot sleep on him. 04:32:21.700 --> 04:32:24.540 I'm telling you, that is sandbagged MMR by the treadmill. 04:32:24.540 --> 04:32:25.980 The treadmill has kept him down. 04:32:25.980 --> 04:32:28.940 He's way stronger and I did message him 04:32:28.940 --> 04:32:31.300 We talked a little bit after our series and he said that you know 04:32:31.300 --> 04:32:35.940 He respects everyone in the tournament way too much to be treadmelling and they would be throwing the game if he did 04:32:36.060 --> 04:32:40.620 So I know now he's unlocked full potential. Yeah, he's off 04:32:41.500 --> 04:32:46.500 After oh the winner of this place why go or loser of this place why go I think so, right? 04:32:47.100 --> 04:32:51.500 Yeah, she'd be facing Wagah. Yeah, I'm playing loser and 04:32:51.500 --> 04:32:53.500 and 04:32:53.500 --> 04:32:55.500 It's gonna be right after this 04:32:56.740 --> 04:32:59.120 No, I think we're gonna do the other other the other 04:32:59.900 --> 04:33:03.780 Upper bracket one first. I'm not sure what's happening if H rock will be given a chance to play or not 04:33:03.780 --> 04:33:05.780 I'm letting my admins to care of that, but 04:33:06.380 --> 04:33:11.140 Probably not as well say and same be this this match and then another upper bracket most likely 04:33:11.140 --> 04:33:14.140 But we have we are behind schedule now like pig is not here as well 04:33:14.140 --> 04:33:19.220 So we'll see what the schedule is looking like it's a very complicated situation like the chat's giving your opinion 04:33:19.220 --> 04:33:25.060 But guys, please keep in mind in the chat that without HROX set, PIG is not here either. 04:33:26.060 --> 04:33:28.180 So you guys are giving your opinion like, hell no, that's not fair. 04:33:28.180 --> 04:33:29.620 I know it's a terrible situation. 04:33:30.100 --> 04:33:32.740 I know he already got the cue, but we're so behind schedule. 04:33:32.740 --> 04:33:36.140 I don't know what's going to happen, but we're trying to do the best thing possible. 04:33:36.140 --> 04:33:39.540 So please be patient and stop sticking by the rules. 04:33:39.740 --> 04:33:41.300 We're trying our best to make it fair for everyone. 04:33:41.300 --> 04:33:44.300 But it's a really bad situation both ways, OK? 04:33:44.580 --> 04:33:47.300 Because of how the schedule is kind of messed up right now. 04:33:47.300 --> 04:34:00.300 So just keep that in mind, we're trying our best and let's go ahead and hop into this next game here, Thermal in red as the Portuguese, and Catmulans in blue as the Bulgarians, this is your Thermal's home map on Arabia, talking through the matchups as I fixed their cams. 04:34:00.300 --> 04:34:05.300 Oh yeah, we're on Arabia, this is the map that we actually have played, same as what. 04:34:05.300 --> 04:34:10.300 What do you think? Do you think it's a forceful large Bulgarians with couples? 04:34:10.300 --> 04:34:12.300 Yeah, I think so. 04:34:12.300 --> 04:34:15.300 Yeah, right? It's so fucking easy. 04:34:15.300 --> 04:34:19.480 That's what he did against me and it's very strong because you don't need to gather as 04:34:19.480 --> 04:34:23.800 much stone as you otherwise would need before you drop that building and get your unique 04:34:23.800 --> 04:34:25.240 unit production going. 04:34:25.240 --> 04:34:29.560 So normally you need to save up for the full castle, the 650, now 350 stone is going to 04:34:29.560 --> 04:34:32.280 be sufficient to get those conics coming out. 04:34:32.280 --> 04:34:33.280 It's a very good unit. 04:34:33.280 --> 04:34:37.920 I didn't actually like find Bulgarians until very late into the ladder and realize 04:34:37.920 --> 04:34:38.920 that hold up. 04:34:38.920 --> 04:34:39.920 These guys are insane. 04:34:39.920 --> 04:34:43.520 They're cavalry that come back as infantry when they die. 04:34:43.520 --> 04:34:45.960 They're like two lives, they're ages. 04:34:45.960 --> 04:34:48.080 Oh, Sing Sing, talk us through this. 04:34:48.080 --> 04:34:49.520 It's a boar laying from Captain Lance. 04:34:49.520 --> 04:34:51.520 He went straight across and he's stealing a boar. 04:34:51.520 --> 04:34:53.120 Sing Sing, this is your time to shine. 04:34:55.120 --> 04:34:56.360 This is how I lost my boar too, 04:34:56.360 --> 04:34:57.360 what can you do, Mark, actually? 04:34:57.360 --> 04:34:59.040 He just blocked the boar and he went back. 04:34:59.040 --> 04:34:59.880 Yep. 04:35:01.080 --> 04:35:02.480 It's really hard to see a boar 04:35:02.480 --> 04:35:05.080 when someone's close with his scouts. 04:35:05.080 --> 04:35:07.240 Look at how good he is at keeping the aggro though. 04:35:07.240 --> 04:35:08.480 Lance is staying clean. 04:35:08.480 --> 04:35:09.880 Making sure not to run too far. 04:35:09.880 --> 04:35:11.680 I think it's gonna be aggro soon, but no. 04:35:11.680 --> 04:35:13.680 It's not the Tigering because of the wolf. 04:35:13.680 --> 04:35:18.040 How it works is you just need to have it within GaiaVision, yes. 04:35:18.040 --> 04:35:20.440 Your scout has to stay within GaiaVision. 04:35:20.440 --> 04:35:22.480 So the deer counts as well? 04:35:22.480 --> 04:35:24.360 Deer counts as well. 04:35:24.360 --> 04:35:26.320 So the scout has to stay within GaiaVision 04:35:26.320 --> 04:35:28.240 and the boar can chase. 04:35:28.240 --> 04:35:30.400 Oh, I thought the boar was like individual. 04:35:30.400 --> 04:35:32.080 So now the boar lost its vision. 04:35:32.080 --> 04:35:33.960 Because it went out of GaiaVision. 04:35:33.960 --> 04:35:34.880 Yeah. 04:35:34.880 --> 04:35:36.080 Not a lot of people know that, by the way. 04:35:36.080 --> 04:35:37.920 It's shared GaiaVision. 04:35:37.920 --> 04:35:42.360 And, yeah, if the deer or the wolf is there, 04:35:42.360 --> 04:35:43.960 you stay in vision, you can run far from the boar 04:35:43.960 --> 04:35:45.920 and still keep it, but good job from your thermal. 04:35:45.920 --> 04:35:48.360 He stops the boar there after all and boar walks back 04:35:48.360 --> 04:35:50.600 and seeing what are the advantages 04:35:50.600 --> 04:35:51.560 and disadvantages of blaming. 04:35:51.560 --> 04:35:52.680 You've done it the most in the tournament. 04:35:52.680 --> 04:35:53.520 I don't want to single you out, 04:35:53.520 --> 04:35:55.560 but I think you've got good experience. 04:35:55.560 --> 04:35:56.520 Bro, you've got good experience. 04:35:56.520 --> 04:35:58.240 Are you late bastard? 04:35:58.240 --> 04:35:59.080 Yeah. 04:35:59.080 --> 04:36:00.600 I mean, you just steal their food, right? 04:36:00.600 --> 04:36:03.080 Like it's like 350 food swing or something. 04:36:03.080 --> 04:36:04.440 There's seven in the food swing. 04:36:04.440 --> 04:36:07.520 Yeah, it's 340s or 680 swings 04:36:07.520 --> 04:36:12.980 Just stealing the food from your opponent as well. It's pretty huge. Hey, but it does come at a cost of losing some HP on the scout 04:36:12.980 --> 04:36:15.840 If that's something that concerns you or is that not, you know a big deal? 04:36:17.560 --> 04:36:21.040 It concerns me a lot because I like to scout rush to like right afterwards 04:36:21.040 --> 04:36:24.000 Yeah, but I think it's still it's always gonna be worth the more 04:36:24.000 --> 04:36:28.000 The interesting is that if you try to lame and he's a scout is close or even like in front of you already then 04:36:28.000 --> 04:36:31.120 It's cooked. Yeah, I think you almost never win that fights 04:36:31.200 --> 04:36:35.760 Because you have lower HP for one and secondly he can just block the boy if he's good enough and then 04:36:35.760 --> 04:36:37.760 everything's cooked, it's over. 04:36:37.760 --> 04:36:40.760 Yeah, absolutely. So there's a bit of a risk there for sure. 04:36:40.760 --> 04:36:46.760 It feels like all these minor advantages, you know, this feels more like home turf to me as a Dota player, 04:36:46.760 --> 04:36:50.760 because Dota is essentially a game of all the minor advantages. 04:36:50.760 --> 04:36:55.760 And I think many games that we play, us noobs here on AOE2, 04:36:55.760 --> 04:36:59.760 are decided not by minor advantages, but by major decision mistakes. 04:36:59.760 --> 04:37:02.760 Like, oh, you went for the wrong unit complex. That's not a minor thing. 04:37:02.760 --> 04:37:06.760 You lost because you just did something huge, but this I can relate to a lot. 04:37:06.760 --> 04:37:11.600 I feel like you know getting those small edges and then winning just a grind game 04:37:12.160 --> 04:37:15.680 Makes a lot of sense. You should do everything you can to get ahead. Yeah, absolutely 04:37:15.680 --> 04:37:18.780 And what's funny about this term is like you said there 04:37:18.780 --> 04:37:21.800 it's usually the major mistakes that tend to swing it and 04:37:22.120 --> 04:37:26.200 The overall decision-making that matters the most not the little advantages even though in pro play 04:37:26.200 --> 04:37:31.200 It's usually the little advantages to pile up and lead to the victories. Captain Lance by the way 04:37:31.200 --> 04:37:37.900 Going to the stone when he's done this before. He's gonna phosphor rush fast castle into unique unit with the Bulgarians 04:37:37.900 --> 04:37:44.060 We're gonna see the conics and new thermal one of the strongest person in tournaments. I don't know if he's got a response to this honestly 04:37:45.380 --> 04:37:48.360 Yeah, we'll see it's tricky unit to respond to as well, right like 04:37:48.780 --> 04:37:54.260 Can you talk me through a little bit how that works because singing I actually played we screamed the the Bulgarians 04:37:54.260 --> 04:37:57.500 I played them and singing it up going for like some spears to counter it but then 04:37:57.500 --> 04:38:02.380 And the Spears also don't really do that much because they lose to the dismounted version. 04:38:02.380 --> 04:38:07.420 Yeah, so the Conic, the unique unit from the Bulgarians, is a horse unit, as strong as a 04:38:07.420 --> 04:38:09.820 knight, maybe even a little stronger to have more attack. 04:38:09.820 --> 04:38:11.220 So think of it like a knight. 04:38:11.220 --> 04:38:14.940 And then it falls down, and the unit that comes out, the dismounted Conic, is like 04:38:14.940 --> 04:38:15.940 a longsword. 04:38:15.940 --> 04:38:19.620 So you make one unit, and you have a knight, then a longsword, just from that one unit. 04:38:19.620 --> 04:38:21.140 It's very, very strong. 04:38:21.140 --> 04:38:24.100 The way to counter it is you cannot fight it in melee combat. 04:38:24.100 --> 04:38:28.660 You have to fight it only with ranged units or monks, something that specifically counters 04:38:28.660 --> 04:38:29.660 a melee specialist. 04:38:29.660 --> 04:38:33.920 Ethermal getting some nice hits there, but Captain Lance certainly playing towards his 04:38:33.920 --> 04:38:40.180 unique units and that is how you want to counter it if you're Ethermal. 04:38:40.180 --> 04:38:44.860 Also we'll have Captain Lance, yeah exactly, you need something ranged then to deal with 04:38:44.860 --> 04:38:45.860 him. 04:38:45.860 --> 04:38:48.860 Not how Captain Lance goes all the way up to 23 workers before clicking up here, 04:38:48.860 --> 04:38:52.660 this is just him trying to get towards that perfect timing for his unique unit of 04:38:52.660 --> 04:38:57.380 course I'm playing for the castle timing so you thermal reacts to this though he's 04:38:57.380 --> 04:39:01.260 gonna see the stone perhaps if he sneaks behind here yep he also sees the faster 04:39:01.260 --> 04:39:04.700 uptime she's wondering yo where's my opponent he's not in feudal age and he 04:39:04.700 --> 04:39:08.940 sees the stone he's gonna confirm that it is in fact the fast castle into unique 04:39:08.940 --> 04:39:11.620 in it now do you want to talk about something here the Bulgarians have a 04:39:11.620 --> 04:39:17.140 crepo it's a castle like units or building rather it costs only 350 stone 04:39:17.140 --> 04:39:22.940 So a regular castle is 650 stone a crepo is 350 stone so 300 cheaper 04:39:22.940 --> 04:39:25.200 And you can still make your unique unit from it 04:39:25.200 --> 04:39:29.900 So the Bulgarians have a huge advantage when it comes to rushing your unique unit because you don't need to make a castle 04:39:29.900 --> 04:39:34.500 You can just make a crepo and be fine. You thermal sending two villages forward. He's looking to punish it 04:39:34.660 --> 04:39:39.240 How would you punish this though? Let's figure out what he's got in mind stable at home with two of us forward 04:39:39.420 --> 04:39:41.420 So we can do I 04:39:41.420 --> 04:39:43.960 Think he's gonna sneak around onto the stone, right? 04:39:43.960 --> 04:39:49.080 perhaps even go for the berries plus the woodland but we'll see where he wants to drop this yeah it 04:39:49.080 --> 04:39:53.000 does feel like a lot of time has already gone by look at the resources for captains already 04:39:54.760 --> 04:39:59.080 oh the forward range he almost has enough stone already he has enough stone even for the compass 04:40:01.320 --> 04:40:05.480 they're over the range first so it's not gonna be like a tower he could still tower later 04:40:05.480 --> 04:40:08.920 you're almost gonna want a range first but since you did say that you thought was gonna 04:40:08.920 --> 04:40:12.520 known for a skeleton to archers so this is not too much of an adaptation there for him he 04:40:12.520 --> 04:40:15.400 just has to make the range forward. I guess it's still his comfort zone. 04:40:16.920 --> 04:40:20.360 Yeah, but he's not playing in his normal timing, so I think that's the main difference. He's not 04:40:20.360 --> 04:40:25.000 playing into that, you know, that castle edge into both game plus crossbows and then walk 04:40:25.000 --> 04:40:28.760 at your enemy timing with Manga Nels following up. Yeah, so it's very different from his 04:40:28.760 --> 04:40:34.200 usual game plan. That's true. I would be scared for him, you thermal that is, because 04:40:34.200 --> 04:40:38.680 I've been in this spot with early aggression play with Militia with Man at arm threat going 04:40:38.680 --> 04:40:41.960 in and just trying to do whatever damage I can. I feel like you thermals play here is 04:40:41.960 --> 04:40:44.920 hitting a bit of a later timing? This tower could be big though. 04:40:47.560 --> 04:40:51.160 Yeah, the tower from the thermal. Count the tower. 04:40:51.160 --> 04:40:55.720 Yo, Captain Lance really wants his counter tower. Holy shit, he's brought the whole horde. 04:40:55.720 --> 04:40:59.560 Ten villagers on it. The scouts go through. The thermal is looking pretty aggressive here, 04:40:59.560 --> 04:41:01.080 but that tower is going to go up for sure. 04:41:03.080 --> 04:41:06.840 And he has enough stone already to make the Creposte anyway, so this is fine for him 04:41:06.840 --> 04:41:11.720 investing and now he has a secure, you know, last little berries and this entire woodline. 04:41:12.280 --> 04:41:14.520 But it's so hard to get onto and pressure these guys. 04:41:14.520 --> 04:41:17.720 This is kind of bad though for Lance. Like, he does have the stone actually. 04:41:17.720 --> 04:41:20.280 He sold a little bit of it, so he doesn't have the stone anymore actually. 04:41:21.240 --> 04:41:22.680 This could be bad. He's getting hard. 04:41:22.680 --> 04:41:24.040 Oh, that's really bad timing. 04:41:24.040 --> 04:41:24.600 Yep. 04:41:24.600 --> 04:41:26.200 That's super painful, no? 04:41:26.200 --> 04:41:27.800 Is it going to go to buy stone or something? 04:41:28.520 --> 04:41:32.120 But like, selling stone and then going to go to buy it, it feels like this is not really 04:41:32.120 --> 04:41:35.480 what he wanted out of this. The archers will kill these villagers if they run the 04:41:35.480 --> 04:41:39.040 the scouts kill them so the between a rock and a hard place quite literally here 04:41:39.040 --> 04:41:42.720 and I don't know what Captain Lance can do. Uthermo's got a nice punishment here 04:41:42.720 --> 04:41:47.300 to this fast castle strategy. The range makes all the difference right bringing 04:41:47.300 --> 04:41:50.200 the range the scouts alone would do nothing but yeah these archers are gonna 04:41:50.200 --> 04:41:54.640 actually force the villagers to to try and make a run for it. Dude Captain Lance 04:41:54.640 --> 04:41:58.560 has been teasing Uthermo with the scout the entire game. I'll always be scouted 04:41:58.560 --> 04:42:01.720 that never dies but Uthermo's gonna look to block beautiful play from Uthermo 04:42:01.720 --> 04:42:05.020 That's Starcraft micro that's 1000 APM. Look at this 04:42:05.620 --> 04:42:09.840 Hey, you split them the look two of them all right the sacrifice to distract them 04:42:10.480 --> 04:42:13.780 Can't say in the last solo giga brain 04:42:15.040 --> 04:42:17.040 That's pretty cool 04:42:17.440 --> 04:42:21.280 There's the two villagers. That's probably best case scenario actually from that situation 04:42:21.280 --> 04:42:26.080 So what plate from Captain Lance they're making the best out of a tricky situation and he's buying back that stone 04:42:26.080 --> 04:42:31.200 They need to buy another hundred a very inefficient in terms of you know resource management for Captain Lance 04:42:31.200 --> 04:42:36.480 But that was of course, thanks to the pressure from the thermal cap months is trying to make the best out of it 04:42:36.480 --> 04:42:38.960 But behind this you thermals gonna go with a market 04:42:38.960 --> 04:42:40.520 I've made a lot of farms 04:42:40.520 --> 04:42:45.620 I think usually less forms more gold and you buy your way up is the way we want to navigate this kind of follow-up 04:42:46.880 --> 04:42:53.440 Hey, did that guy just get like the most unlucky stone placement in his life like that those 5,000 funds 04:42:53.800 --> 04:42:59.560 Yeah, pretty bad five times worse than ever seen in front of a hill very far forward 04:42:59.560 --> 04:43:03.280 Camelans will lose a villager and will finally lose that scout. 04:43:03.280 --> 04:43:07.280 Krepos onto the golds, the thermal constipation of one bill, he goes for the lowest he built. 04:43:07.280 --> 04:43:10.120 Well played to him, going for the weak one is great. 04:43:10.120 --> 04:43:12.120 I think he's just committed to it. 04:43:12.120 --> 04:43:13.120 There we go. 04:43:13.120 --> 04:43:15.620 Killed four villagers by the way. 04:43:15.620 --> 04:43:18.520 It's crazy all the strong villagers are sometimes. 04:43:18.520 --> 04:43:23.160 It's just your scouts are weak, they're not men at arms dude. 04:43:23.160 --> 04:43:25.000 Yeah, that's true man. 04:43:25.000 --> 04:43:28.200 A Roman swordsman would have stood in there happily. 04:43:28.200 --> 04:43:34.240 Yeah, the Roman swordsmen aren't insane though. Those guys are super super tanky. 04:43:35.160 --> 04:43:37.160 Wagga of course making good use of them 04:43:37.600 --> 04:43:41.440 Now, you thermal has a 15 village elite. He's still in the feudal age though 04:43:41.440 --> 04:43:44.640 Catmulans finally was working his entire strategy towards the Shkrepos 04:43:44.800 --> 04:43:51.280 He needs the conic that will come out of this to do some crazy work because he's taken a lot of punishment so far from you thermal 04:43:51.800 --> 04:43:54.760 Villagers running away for his life and I save itself. He's 04:43:54.760 --> 04:44:00.160 He's pretty imbalanced on his eco right now, but only 5 on food for Captain Lance, and the 04:44:00.160 --> 04:44:03.800 Konek also requires quite a bit of food, so it's not going to be so easy for him to start 04:44:03.800 --> 04:44:04.920 spamming out production. 04:44:04.920 --> 04:44:07.640 He needs to get more farms, but then he needs the wood first. 04:44:07.640 --> 04:44:11.120 So, I think here, like you said, perhaps he's going to be using the markets to try 04:44:11.120 --> 04:44:12.120 and fix this. 04:44:12.120 --> 04:44:14.040 Well, he's not making villagers right now actually. 04:44:14.040 --> 04:44:15.480 He's actually not making villagers. 04:44:15.480 --> 04:44:17.280 Pat Mont is stuck on 21 villagers. 04:44:17.280 --> 04:44:20.680 He's now made his first villager of Castle Age. 04:44:20.680 --> 04:44:21.680 He's prioritizing the Konek production. 04:44:21.680 --> 04:44:22.680 It's the spiffing Brits! 04:44:22.680 --> 04:44:23.680 It's the spiffing Brits! 04:44:23.680 --> 04:44:30.760 It's not a very good one maybe but one that must be used under dire circumstances got zero on food now 04:44:30.760 --> 04:44:33.040 He's pulled in his farm villages to kill the tower 04:44:33.960 --> 04:44:38.840 Maybe not the best to take the farmvilles, but he deems the tower a huge threat 04:44:40.400 --> 04:44:42.400 So one I'm already shooting to 04:44:43.680 --> 04:44:49.940 But the utermals base is kind of squishy right like there's no stone walls lots of palisades lots of 04:44:50.480 --> 04:44:52.960 Maybe over chopping there by the blacksmith 04:44:53.680 --> 04:44:55.680 Yeah, very close. 04:44:55.680 --> 04:44:57.680 But this tree is coming to wood. 04:44:57.680 --> 04:44:59.680 By the way, this tree? 04:44:59.680 --> 04:45:00.680 Over here? 04:45:00.680 --> 04:45:02.680 Yes, this tree is wood. 04:45:02.680 --> 04:45:07.680 But again, the spears are not a perfect solution to these units as they can still fight on. 04:45:07.680 --> 04:45:08.680 Yep. 04:45:08.680 --> 04:45:12.680 They actually get a damage increase when they become swordsmen as well. 04:45:12.680 --> 04:45:15.680 They have 12, they get 13 when they go this number. 04:45:15.680 --> 04:45:17.680 This number is 13 in fact. 04:45:17.680 --> 04:45:18.680 That's crazy. 04:45:18.680 --> 04:45:20.680 Yeah, it's stronger. 04:45:20.680 --> 04:45:22.680 I'm calling doubt on that. 04:45:22.680 --> 04:45:25.480 I don't think it's 13 attack, I think that's the elite version. 04:45:26.360 --> 04:45:28.840 I think the regular version is less than 13 attack. 04:45:29.480 --> 04:45:34.120 No, this mounted elite is 14, and elite is also 14 on mounted, 04:45:34.120 --> 04:45:38.000 but on the non-elite it's 12 and 13, at least if the tooltips are right. 04:45:38.320 --> 04:45:42.520 I'm used to broken tooltips though, in our game we are all over, so it could be wrong. 04:45:42.720 --> 04:45:45.520 Dude, you might be right, they keep buffing and changing shit, so I'm not even sure, 04:45:45.520 --> 04:45:48.520 but we'll see, we'll check when we finally see a dismounted conic, 04:45:48.520 --> 04:45:52.280 which might happen or might not happen depending on what happens in the next few minutes here. 04:45:52.280 --> 04:45:58.840 Thermal is up to Castle Age or is in Castle Age now probably Crossbow Botkin. He loves his rangerness 04:46:00.840 --> 04:46:06.280 Am I wrong in saying that Captain Nassid is in a comfortable spot now though because he survived to his own castle age 04:46:06.280 --> 04:46:07.780 Listen, whoa 04:46:07.780 --> 04:46:12.180 Yeah, this is huge. Actually, I think those are deleted wall from the thermal to try to group up his archers 04:46:12.180 --> 04:46:13.480 But Katman says thank you very much 04:46:13.480 --> 04:46:18.000 I'm gonna go in and looks like you might have our first dismounted conic here is Wagamama, correct? 04:46:18.000 --> 04:46:20.700 Well, Vatach is wrong. 04:46:20.700 --> 04:46:23.700 The tooltip lies in the hotel. 04:46:23.700 --> 04:46:26.200 I think you better check the elite one, but it's okay. 04:46:26.200 --> 04:46:27.200 It's okay to be wrong, man. 04:46:27.200 --> 04:46:28.200 Don't worry, you say. 04:46:28.200 --> 04:46:29.200 Don't feel too bad. 04:46:29.200 --> 04:46:30.200 This looks fucked, no? 04:46:30.200 --> 04:46:32.200 Yeah, this is terrible for your thermal, by the way. 04:46:32.200 --> 04:46:33.200 This is terrible for your thermal. 04:46:33.200 --> 04:46:34.200 You have four crossbows. 04:46:34.200 --> 04:46:36.200 He's bringing the villagers in. 04:46:36.200 --> 04:46:38.200 Wait, the conics are so strong, but keep in mind, 04:46:38.200 --> 04:46:40.200 there's a lot of build discrepancy between the two players. 04:46:40.200 --> 04:46:42.200 As long as you thermal doesn't get completely cleared up, 04:46:42.200 --> 04:46:44.200 he's kind of okay here, but those villagers 04:46:44.200 --> 04:46:46.200 are not doing anything to those conics. 04:46:46.200 --> 04:46:47.200 They're so tanky. 04:46:47.200 --> 04:46:56.680 He's queuing up a bunch of crossbows, he wants to solve this, but there's someone in there 04:46:56.680 --> 04:46:57.680 hitting him. 04:46:57.680 --> 04:46:58.680 Oh, this is beautiful to watch, man. 04:46:58.680 --> 04:46:59.680 Look at it. 04:46:59.680 --> 04:47:00.680 Yeah, dude. 04:47:00.680 --> 04:47:01.680 Those villagers have to run. 04:47:01.680 --> 04:47:02.680 This is crazy. 04:47:02.680 --> 04:47:06.000 Oh, you're about to see it. 04:47:06.000 --> 04:47:08.200 All of a sudden, the Ville Count is actually even, by the way. 04:47:08.200 --> 04:47:09.840 It's three villagers apart. 04:47:09.840 --> 04:47:12.040 Captain Lance adds a second town center. 04:47:12.040 --> 04:47:13.120 He's in a great position. 04:47:13.120 --> 04:47:16.120 You thermal is getting completely destroyed by those conics. 04:47:16.120 --> 04:47:20.440 play to let them in disastrous that was super super bad for you thermal did 04:47:20.440 --> 04:47:25.060 careless if anything a second TC the play hello don't you think it is all in 04:47:25.060 --> 04:47:29.400 the their chronic units we just want now honestly I think you should have but 04:47:29.400 --> 04:47:32.960 maybe he didn't think he's gonna get in so you want to play a balance game but 04:47:32.960 --> 04:47:35.800 I think seeing how this played out if you just had like two more comics in 04:47:35.800 --> 04:47:39.760 here he would just win the game on the spot but maybe you just want to play 04:47:39.760 --> 04:47:42.320 it safe because he wasn't guaranteed to break in it was kind of a mistake 04:47:42.320 --> 04:47:45.460 from thermal that let him in so kind of balanced approach you thermal 04:47:45.460 --> 04:47:49.300 clears it up and it's pushing back now Kamalan's trying to transition into some economy 04:47:49.300 --> 04:47:51.980 Deer the towers and now 3 TC boom 04:47:51.980 --> 04:47:54.860 I don't know, he's almost bouncing back though 04:47:54.860 --> 04:47:59.940 Yeah the 3 TC boom is greedy now and I think thermal's army composition seems good against the connex too 04:47:59.940 --> 04:48:04.980 He has the spheres, has the crossbows so I think now the wolf even getting in the mix 04:48:04.980 --> 04:48:08.540 The wolf they're gonna kill me thermal, you thermal 2v1 04:48:08.540 --> 04:48:10.340 That was disastrous for him 04:48:10.340 --> 04:48:12.620 He's lost a bunch of villagers 04:48:12.620 --> 04:48:17.620 It's got Pykeman upgrade now. Pykeman are good versus the Mounted Connick, another e-thermobile going down. 04:48:17.620 --> 04:48:19.320 Everyone's having their way with those Vils. 04:48:19.320 --> 04:48:24.620 Pykes are good against the Mounted Units, but when they dismount, you need the Crossboost, but the nice mix here is solid. 04:48:24.620 --> 04:48:26.620 Let's see what e-thermobiles can do with it. 04:48:26.620 --> 04:48:29.620 Lother, he has 3 TC with 6 forms. 04:48:30.620 --> 04:48:32.620 Yeah, it's not the best situation. 04:48:32.620 --> 04:48:39.620 Well, I think getting the TCs first is okay, because you kind of establish some control of the map and then you just get the farms up later. 04:48:39.620 --> 04:48:41.620 But yeah, this is not like a 3 TC boom. 04:48:41.620 --> 04:48:49.180 All these TC's are idle and you thermal attacking so Captain Lance does not have that much of an economic advantage if at all right now versus you thermal 04:48:50.780 --> 04:48:58.220 Yeah, it's pretty vulnerable and I just want to see Lance or you thermal here bring you know some way to actually crack down the buildings as well 04:48:58.220 --> 04:49:03.460 He's a great player at mixing in the right unit comp so we'll see if he brings the siege workshop at some point 04:49:03.460 --> 04:49:05.580 Yeah, now I'm just looking to do damage where you can 04:49:05.940 --> 04:49:09.980 Yeah, you thermal went for the two TC boom behind us so he went for like a two TC setup 04:49:09.980 --> 04:49:16.180 He's got crossbows coming forward now looking to play a balanced attack whilst having some economy behind it 04:49:16.180 --> 04:49:20.140 The Portuguese I think is is actually most played civil the rank ladder or at least one of them 04:49:20.140 --> 04:49:26.920 So they said he knows inside and out and he's looking to do good damage whilst keeping a solid economy behind this and 04:49:27.300 --> 04:49:33.180 Camelons can't really defend this he can't defend against crossbows without siege and he's very far from having siege on the field 04:49:34.580 --> 04:49:39.820 Yeah, these villagers will just get pushed around and this idle time is hard to manage as well because he's everywhere now 04:49:39.980 --> 04:49:43.580 Oh, and I can't get the block to something, what the hell is blocks? 04:49:43.580 --> 04:49:48.180 Yeah, I love the happening issue here, but you can see how squishy they are without the arm upgrades. 04:49:48.180 --> 04:49:53.680 And those guys are just doing nothing. So, Iconics look really good against melee units, but against ranged units, they kind of fall flat. 04:49:53.680 --> 04:49:58.780 Unless you get enough of them. Capmulans, dude, I think Singsing, I think you were right. I think the TC is too fast. 04:49:58.780 --> 04:50:02.780 Might have been the Kryptonite for Capmulans here. I think that kind of ruined his momentum. 04:50:02.780 --> 04:50:08.980 It's fine if you had farms for them, but these people are starving man. They deserve gold to eat. 04:50:08.980 --> 04:50:13.080 Nothing else. Yeah, I get the farms down. He's using the market a lot to survive 04:50:13.100 --> 04:50:18.140 But okay gets a crepus then again still a little counter to the crossbow. So like wherever the crossbows go 04:50:18.140 --> 04:50:19.300 He's just to leave 04:50:19.300 --> 04:50:24.140 He's doing a decent job of staying alive. But look at this behind this a flashback to your thermal third town center 04:50:24.140 --> 04:50:27.180 We have a university life is good in your thermal position 04:50:28.260 --> 04:50:31.980 Yeah, he's happy to do the damage he's doing not looking to smash down buildings 04:50:31.980 --> 04:50:38.320 He knows he's idling so much and rebalancing a lot of captain's lances equal for the worst right these abandoning farms running away and 04:50:38.980 --> 04:50:41.700 This is just putting you thermal in a better and better position 04:50:42.660 --> 04:50:47.620 Look at the resource collected difference right now. Not even leave a thousand yet for Lance. That's crazy 04:50:48.020 --> 04:50:49.140 4,000 difference 04:50:49.140 --> 04:50:53.140 That's way more than I could have ever expected and considering cap months killed more villagers 04:50:53.140 --> 04:50:57.300 But it's just that idle tc 16 minutes bro 16 minutes of idle tc is ridiculous 04:51:00.180 --> 04:51:02.340 I like at least he has plus two armor 04:51:03.060 --> 04:51:05.060 It's not plus two armor 04:51:05.060 --> 04:51:08.100 It's just tough, he's trying to play with only Connix. 04:51:08.100 --> 04:51:11.780 I feel like a siege workshop and a scorpion just clears this, or at least pushes it back. 04:51:14.180 --> 04:51:16.420 Connix only, I feel like you're playing on hard mode. 04:51:18.180 --> 04:51:21.780 They're stuck behind enemy lines now, these crossbows. Sure, they're denying the gold, 04:51:21.780 --> 04:51:23.940 and he's trying to deny both the golds. 04:51:23.940 --> 04:51:28.740 That's like, you can see you Thermos making a conscious play to play on that critical resource. 04:51:28.740 --> 04:51:30.340 That's why he's always hovering over here. 04:51:30.340 --> 04:51:33.140 I think that's really smart. He knows he can't stop all the wood gathering, 04:51:33.140 --> 04:51:36.580 but he's playing for the exposed gold mines. 04:51:36.580 --> 04:51:40.820 Yeah, it does spot the scrapers up top, loses 8 cross before it, but that vision is nice. 04:51:40.820 --> 04:51:44.980 Catalan's going for the clear up here, he's got 6 conics going in, he's got plus 2 armor, 04:51:44.980 --> 04:51:50.740 2 planks on the front, one gets decimated, yeah there it is, but a couple conics already going down. 04:51:50.740 --> 04:51:53.380 But I think this is a clear up, more lands overall. 04:51:54.580 --> 04:51:58.660 Oh yeah, very nice, and now he actually gets to keep a little bit of military along with it 04:51:58.660 --> 04:52:03.100 And maybe finally can start feeling like you could start booming up a little bit with these TCs 04:52:03.180 --> 04:52:06.660 And by the way, you know, I think he's in a bad position like okay 04:52:06.660 --> 04:52:11.460 Yeah, he's got like less food income, you know, not the most amount of farms here for Captain Lance 04:52:11.460 --> 04:52:15.760 You thermal also very little on food as well. He's starting to add some farms himself 04:52:16.180 --> 04:52:19.820 We need farms for both players here, but keep in mind you thermal does not know 04:52:19.820 --> 04:52:23.580 He's at a 15 billy he probably thinks that Captain Lance has been on three TC for a while 04:52:23.580 --> 04:52:26.820 And therefore he's got a good economy the score is also quite close 04:52:26.820 --> 04:52:32.340 I honestly feel like you thermal might mind game himself into thinking that Captain Lance is in a good position when it's really not 04:52:33.900 --> 04:52:40.280 It's actually a great point that I would totally expect that I'm behind on bills when I saw these super early tc's like from our perspective 04:52:40.280 --> 04:52:41.820 It's obvious, but that's not the case 04:52:41.820 --> 04:52:46.800 But you are working with very limited information when you're playing the game. Yeah, even with a good scouting 04:52:46.800 --> 04:52:51.060 Yes, yeah, gotta keep that in mind even as we as we cast here more army coming through though you thermal 04:52:51.060 --> 04:52:55.020 Got ballistics these crossbows are insanely strong versus the iconic 04:52:55.220 --> 04:52:59.640 Pikemen in front as well just making it harder for the conic to swarm in one guy gets picked off and 04:52:59.980 --> 04:53:03.300 The rest are forced to run looking good for your thermal just fighting down the center 04:53:03.300 --> 04:53:11.420 But captain Lance has pretty defensive defensively structured base. Yeah, well defensively structured base, so he'll be kind of okay on defense 04:53:14.340 --> 04:53:16.660 And just gonna get units and it's he's so stuck 04:53:16.660 --> 04:53:20.100 Nice knife. 04:53:20.100 --> 04:53:21.660 Needs a bigger military. 04:53:21.660 --> 04:53:25.500 The one villager. 04:53:25.500 --> 04:53:29.300 Trying to offload some of the pressure by sending raves, but these TCs are doing wonder, just 04:53:29.300 --> 04:53:30.300 yeah defending. 04:53:30.300 --> 04:53:32.260 And he has not over chopped here as well, so very nice. 04:53:32.260 --> 04:53:35.940 Ballistics is the most important tech in my opinion, especially in beginner play, 04:53:35.940 --> 04:53:40.100 intermediate play, really even in pro play, it's just good in every single elo. 04:53:40.100 --> 04:53:43.460 Probably a little less good because people know how to dodge ballistics effectively, 04:53:43.460 --> 04:53:47.520 But in general, Ballistics let you counter Cavalry raiding, like Cavalry just running 04:53:47.520 --> 04:53:49.940 around all of your arrows, super fashion to play. 04:53:49.940 --> 04:53:53.540 You get Ballistics, all of a sudden they come in, they just die to your Townsenders, maybe 04:53:53.540 --> 04:53:57.140 some defensive Pipeman, and all of a sudden the raids are not really that big of a threat 04:53:57.140 --> 04:53:58.140 here. 04:53:58.140 --> 04:54:02.780 So you're Thermal, picking up that Ballistics deck, having a solid 3 TC setup, he's very 04:54:02.780 --> 04:54:04.060 hard to raid. 04:54:04.060 --> 04:54:07.300 And he's using that time to attack with his army instead of being forced to send 04:54:07.300 --> 04:54:08.300 them back. 04:54:08.300 --> 04:54:10.300 It's a beautiful play from you, Thermal. 04:54:10.300 --> 04:54:17.380 He's playing positionally as well, just keeps going in harassing this one forward TC, the 04:54:17.380 --> 04:54:23.100 main TC, that's not really been able to have effective farm time for Captain Lance, a lot 04:54:23.100 --> 04:54:24.580 of it being denied non-stop. 04:54:24.580 --> 04:54:28.700 Keep checking that main gold by the way, we did talk about that earlier, that very 04:54:28.700 --> 04:54:31.860 decisive play from the Thermal to challenge the neither golds. 04:54:31.860 --> 04:54:34.740 That main gold, he's just not allowed to take it, look at that, gets across from 04:54:34.740 --> 04:54:38.660 a back on it and Captain Lance wants to take it, he just can't. 04:54:38.660 --> 04:54:42.560 At the pace we're going right now, it almost feels like the gold is going to be the thing 04:54:42.560 --> 04:54:47.000 that forces the status quo to break here because yeah you have your back gold but it's only 04:54:47.000 --> 04:54:51.440 going to last you so long and two of the other golds are very controlled by your thermal 04:54:51.440 --> 04:54:52.440 non-stop. 04:54:52.440 --> 04:54:56.240 Yeah, some losses there, Crepo is doing his job on defense, I 100% agree this is the 04:54:56.240 --> 04:54:58.120 only gold that Katmance is working. 04:54:58.120 --> 04:55:02.240 Now this will last him until in Pure Lich most likely but you know you don't want 04:55:02.240 --> 04:55:05.040 to just last him until in Pure Lich, you want to be able to play in imp if you 04:55:05.040 --> 04:55:06.040 want to win this game. 04:55:06.040 --> 04:55:09.040 Your thermal is almost close, you know, on the way to MP, it's very close to it. 04:55:09.440 --> 04:55:12.440 And so, you know, just surviving so MPs not get enough, another build goes down. 04:55:12.440 --> 04:55:15.000 That gold is just getting so harassed right now. Wow. 04:55:16.100 --> 04:55:20.080 Look at that. Even doesn't in the east, he's set to stand ground across 04:55:20.080 --> 04:55:22.580 those behind the wood line. So once they chop deep enough, they're also 04:55:22.580 --> 04:55:25.240 going to get harassed over there. This is something your thermal does 04:55:25.240 --> 04:55:28.640 in every game he plays. I feel like he always sends some random range 04:55:28.640 --> 04:55:30.740 to just stand somewhere and pick off people. 04:55:30.780 --> 04:55:33.580 This is crazy. Like Katmoth is getting one guy. It's so hard right now. 04:55:33.580 --> 04:55:35.580 It's the one guy with two kills. 04:55:35.580 --> 04:55:39.380 Akana keeps coming out to try to kill him, but then there's more guys to come in. 04:55:39.380 --> 04:55:41.380 Maganel whiffs the shot. 04:55:44.380 --> 04:55:47.780 It's just the control from Uthermal solid, but Camelot's actually even out the build counts. 04:55:47.780 --> 04:55:50.380 He's doing a good job of keeping himself kind of in the game. 04:55:50.380 --> 04:55:57.280 I want to see maybe, you know, fast imp or, no, let the imp prioritization from Uthermal into maybe a forward castle. 04:55:57.280 --> 04:56:01.780 This hill is beautiful. If a castle comes down here, Uthermal's going to be in such a good position. 04:56:01.780 --> 04:56:07.540 Yeah, it's a very oppressive hill to hold, especially as he's got all these range units. 04:56:07.540 --> 04:56:10.260 It's hard for Captainized to push into it with this unique unit. 04:56:10.260 --> 04:56:14.660 You just have the Manganols, but if they leave the TC, they can also be snapped, right? 04:56:14.660 --> 04:56:16.660 Yeah, they can be micro-down. 04:56:16.660 --> 04:56:21.700 Manganols, generally speaking, a counter to crossbows, but as we know, with good micro, 04:56:21.700 --> 04:56:25.620 you can maneuver your crossbows to counter the Manganols, and so therefore, you can't 04:56:25.620 --> 04:56:29.700 really just move out with one, but I think moving out with three, you throw a solid 04:56:29.700 --> 04:56:32.400 player, but even him this might be too much. 04:56:32.400 --> 04:56:35.560 I think the layer of gold on this. 04:56:35.560 --> 04:56:39.600 You can't touch that main gold of this, and every other gold is like in fucking nowhere. 04:56:39.600 --> 04:56:40.600 Yep. 04:56:40.600 --> 04:56:41.600 Yeah. 04:56:41.600 --> 04:56:44.600 Got three tiles left. 04:56:44.600 --> 04:56:49.360 The thermal is still not on stone though, so it's not really going to that deny play. 04:56:49.360 --> 04:56:53.000 Yeah, I know Forward Castle is up to imp though, that's a huge deal. 04:56:53.000 --> 04:56:56.520 He's rushing to stone now, I think maybe he realizes dude, the Forward Castle would 04:56:56.520 --> 04:56:57.760 be fantastic right now. 04:56:57.760 --> 04:57:03.820 But even if you miss the forward castle timing just having listen our blessed bracer continue doing what you're doing 04:57:03.820 --> 04:57:09.180 You're already ahead. There's a theory in RTS where if you're just ahead you can just stay ahead as long as you don't throw 04:57:09.180 --> 04:57:13.820 So just not going for the kill just continue building advantage building advantage beautiful micro as well 04:57:13.820 --> 04:57:16.700 Just dodging that manual dodging the crepo's and leaving wow that was 04:57:16.700 --> 04:57:17.900 What the fuck did you see that? 04:57:17.900 --> 04:57:19.400 He killed the Dorn Magano! 04:57:19.900 --> 04:57:20.900 What the fuck? 04:57:21.400 --> 04:57:21.900 It's a... 04:57:21.900 --> 04:57:22.900 It's a recent! 04:57:23.900 --> 04:57:24.900 That was crazy! 04:57:25.400 --> 04:57:28.400 But the Magano on the front missed and this one's just like killed it! 04:57:28.400 --> 04:57:29.400 That was insane! 04:57:29.400 --> 04:57:31.900 Yeah, well that's what happens if you miss your shots. 04:57:31.900 --> 04:57:32.900 You get shot. 04:57:33.900 --> 04:57:34.400 That's... 04:57:34.400 --> 04:57:35.400 That's insane. 04:57:35.400 --> 04:57:36.400 Well at least... 04:57:36.400 --> 04:57:37.900 That's the actual reason. 04:57:37.900 --> 04:57:42.400 At least Captain Lass's Magano killed something because if not, they're just sitting there doing nothing. 04:57:42.400 --> 04:57:44.900 So honestly, this guy's walking around like a Chad. 04:57:44.900 --> 04:57:48.900 Gotta kill him to the manganole. More conics going down here. 04:57:48.900 --> 04:57:50.900 But that's so funny. 04:57:50.900 --> 04:57:58.900 I mean, I killed my own rams with manganole, but at least, you know, that happens when you target the same gate with those units, I guess. 04:57:58.900 --> 04:58:03.900 Oh, it wasn't not even an enemy there, by the way. It's like you clicked a farm or something, I don't know. 04:58:03.900 --> 04:58:07.900 I don't even know how that happened. I think it was just an attack round, but there's no reason to do that. 04:58:07.900 --> 04:58:12.900 But either way, Captain Lance, killing his own manganoles and with Imp coming in so fast for your thermal, 04:58:12.900 --> 04:58:18.500 thermal it's gonna be so hard to come up with a counter to these are blessed and 04:58:18.500 --> 04:58:24.060 dude always someone showing off he's literally showing off oh my god he's 04:58:24.060 --> 04:58:28.260 trying that's a lot of shots needed I mean you can keep my cream but that's so 04:58:28.260 --> 04:58:31.500 sweaty though like you have for some repairs like he forces some repairs 04:58:31.500 --> 04:58:35.140 which is actually sapping the wood and gold from Captain Land so that little 04:58:35.140 --> 04:58:39.060 sweaty micro is actually good and I love to see it just min maxing 04:58:39.060 --> 04:58:41.900 everything thumb ring our blessed bracer coming in we're just missing 04:58:41.900 --> 04:58:46.540 chemistry for like the trio of Imp upgrades coming in here for these R-Blast. There it is 04:58:46.540 --> 04:58:49.660 and Portuguese get all the upgrades a little bit faster as well. So you know what, 04:58:49.660 --> 04:58:54.460 Captain Lance and a lot of trouble. Just repairing siege units on the map 04:58:54.460 --> 04:58:59.100 costs the same as the formula for buildings or what's the cost for repairing units? 04:58:59.100 --> 04:59:02.940 If you repair it fully, it's half the price of remaking it basically. 04:59:04.060 --> 04:59:07.820 Yeah, so like the buildings, this way you want to hit the expensive buildings. 04:59:07.820 --> 04:59:09.820 Yeah 04:59:10.620 --> 04:59:16.300 Yeah, bloodlust the castle's coming castle's coming. Yeah, there it is the village is coming forward 04:59:16.700 --> 04:59:18.620 And we also have a couple relics picked up for you thermal 04:59:18.620 --> 04:59:23.020 So all this control has led to this one forward castle moment. We drop a castle on the hill 04:59:23.900 --> 04:59:28.700 I don't think that catmulans has the tools to stop this because guess what the crepo's you can't make trevus from it 04:59:29.260 --> 04:59:31.420 So you cannot you can only make batards and batards 04:59:31.420 --> 04:59:36.980 I feel like not really enough to kill a castle, that's a beautiful castle on the hill, Uthermal 04:59:36.980 --> 04:59:42.500 has played a clean game here, punishing Lance for his foster style, fast castle. Fast castle 04:59:42.500 --> 04:59:45.420 unique and a very powerful strategy but it's not going to work against the player, it's 04:59:45.420 --> 04:59:49.940 experienced and strong as Uthermal. Uthermal is looking to finish off this game in style, 04:59:49.940 --> 04:59:53.860 beautiful castle on the hill controlling that stone, Kamaz is in trouble, in big, 04:59:53.860 --> 04:59:54.860 big trouble. 04:59:54.860 --> 04:59:59.340 Man, makes me think back though to that timing where Captain Lance was in the 04:59:59.340 --> 05:00:03.540 The comics were on the wood line, he killed like 15 bills or something, 13 bills, you know, 05:00:03.540 --> 05:00:06.380 he was doing some serious damage. 05:00:06.380 --> 05:00:10.100 But those small, small differences, and that really speaks to the level that these players 05:00:10.100 --> 05:00:11.100 are at, right? 05:00:11.100 --> 05:00:15.220 Because I said that us noobs, it always feels like it's the major decisions that are ruining 05:00:15.220 --> 05:00:16.220 the game here. 05:00:16.220 --> 05:00:18.300 It was like, oh, make two more units. 05:00:18.300 --> 05:00:20.700 And you probably won the game there. 05:00:20.700 --> 05:00:21.700 Yeah, absolutely. 05:00:21.700 --> 05:00:26.220 Oh, no, I'm not gonna know. 05:00:26.220 --> 05:00:27.220 Actually. 05:00:27.220 --> 05:00:32.380 So Caps is hitting the Townsend actually, but yeah, the Maenos do nothing against Imperial 05:00:32.380 --> 05:00:33.380 Enge army usually though. 05:00:33.380 --> 05:00:35.220 Especially when all those upgrades come in. 05:00:35.220 --> 05:00:37.220 It's gonna be like one last charge from Captain Lance. 05:00:37.220 --> 05:00:42.220 He's trying some light cavalry as well maybe, but Duthrimal has 180 population, he's got 05:00:42.220 --> 05:00:43.900 69 army right now in the field. 05:00:43.900 --> 05:00:45.420 Trebuchet coming out. 05:00:45.420 --> 05:00:49.140 Some raiding here at the back, but it's just one conic and he's already getting 05:00:49.140 --> 05:00:52.060 chased by some defensive army so... 05:00:52.060 --> 05:00:53.060 It's one last charge. 05:00:53.060 --> 05:00:57.180 Let's see what Captain Lance can do for us here. 05:00:57.180 --> 05:01:02.720 to wrap around with the arbalest to support the left flank and the ballistics doing damage 05:01:02.720 --> 05:01:04.640 as well, targeting them. 05:01:04.640 --> 05:01:05.640 Good surround by the way. 05:01:05.640 --> 05:01:08.820 Really good surround from Catalan, so kill a few arbalest, even if he doesn't win this 05:01:08.820 --> 05:01:11.300 game showing us that he knows how to do that kind of surround. 05:01:11.300 --> 05:01:13.780 Dude, that can really help him for the next few games. 05:01:13.780 --> 05:01:16.860 This guy's got skills man, that's pretty impressive. 05:01:16.860 --> 05:01:21.020 Yeah, it can be troublesome sometimes to get the mass DPS. 05:01:21.020 --> 05:01:23.820 We've heard the StarCraft players, you know, sometimes say my units are bumping 05:01:23.820 --> 05:01:27.060 each other and so on, but he made it look easy there. 05:01:27.060 --> 05:01:32.860 Catalanth's trying to go in, R-Blessed doing good work on his conics, you thermal got good 05:01:32.860 --> 05:01:35.540 micro attack, good hit and run, he's clean with it. 05:01:35.540 --> 05:01:40.980 Of course every conic just gets dismounted, but if you just target the horsies, the infantry 05:01:40.980 --> 05:01:45.100 afterwards really doesn't do a whole lot and that's like the bulk of Catalanth's army 05:01:45.100 --> 05:01:50.420 made into basically just bits and pieces here from your thermal's kiting. 05:01:50.420 --> 05:01:53.940 Another four castle, finish him off, finish him off you thermal, castle is ass, that's 05:01:53.940 --> 05:01:54.940 what I like to see. 05:01:54.940 --> 05:02:00.500 you see replacing the TC with it all BM that's the end that's what the TC was 05:02:00.500 --> 05:02:09.740 brother this is this time now oh no the castle fire is one last ride the 05:02:09.740 --> 05:02:15.180 comics will die for sure oh they don't even delete comics yeah they have all 05:02:15.180 --> 05:02:19.860 the armor on them you got bloodlines but like no leads and not that many of them 05:02:19.860 --> 05:02:21.620 it's just not the strongest unit here 05:02:21.620 --> 05:02:26.180 Trebuchets on the field, Kreml is going down, Connix going down, the Villages are still dead, building the castle. 05:02:27.780 --> 05:02:33.140 Looking like it's a GG, and there it is in the chat, Uthermal. With the 1-1 equalizes the score, 05:02:33.140 --> 05:02:37.700 we have a series on our hands. Catmulans are the great first game on Redisette Fortress, 05:02:37.700 --> 05:02:43.220 but Uthermal punishes the fast castle beautifully. A strategy that many people considered overpowered 05:02:43.220 --> 05:02:48.260 and unfair. Uthermal has completely countered it and is now equalized the score at 1-1. 05:02:48.260 --> 05:02:52.340 really well played from the thermal the stark f2 guys are back in their boy and 05:02:52.340 --> 05:02:57.780 captain Lance have come up the path of Exel see and doing very well you know but 05:02:57.780 --> 05:03:02.220 has clearly met his match in your thermal do you think that your thermal was 05:03:02.220 --> 05:03:07.460 punishing the the phosphor rush here hard enough or was it the little bit of 05:03:07.460 --> 05:03:11.260 unfortunate decision selling the stone and then having to rebuy it from the 05:03:11.260 --> 05:03:15.420 gold like did that hurt him too much what do you do you think the effort 05:03:15.420 --> 05:03:20.380 that Uthermal put in was enough to really stop the Phosphor or was it more that he fumbled? 05:03:20.380 --> 05:03:23.260 No, I think Uthermal stopped it honestly. I think 05:03:23.260 --> 05:03:26.860 Sing Sing pointed out the forward stone was terrible for Captain Lance, that was really, 05:03:26.860 --> 05:03:33.740 really bad for him. But I think Uthermal punished the strategy beautifully, he scattered it and 05:03:33.740 --> 05:03:38.380 then punished it. Captain Lance actually did okay to manage and still like make a game out 05:03:38.380 --> 05:03:41.980 of it, but overall I think Uthermal was the main reason it wasn't really like a fumble in 05:03:41.980 --> 05:03:46.140 my opinion. I'll let you guys talk about the next matchup happening soon. I need to go use the 05:03:46.140 --> 05:03:51.180 washroom, but it's going to be CapMont's home map now, so let's see what he decides to cook up, 05:03:51.180 --> 05:03:52.060 and I'm going to wait for it. 05:03:57.740 --> 05:04:01.980 I hope that they're choosing Arabia again, because you know it's where I feel most at home, 05:04:01.980 --> 05:04:06.620 but I do feel like Arena might come on. You know, I think every player has 05:04:06.620 --> 05:04:12.860 some thing prepared on arena that they want to do, you know, some strap. And it's always nice to 05:04:12.860 --> 05:04:17.980 try and get that, that easy one. But I think you turmoil is a beast on the radio. 05:04:18.700 --> 05:04:23.980 There is. I think it's showing us arena already on the shared screen here. We can see. 05:04:25.340 --> 05:04:27.740 Yeah, I think it might be the best. 05:04:27.740 --> 05:04:33.740 Well, you cut out I think. 05:04:33.740 --> 05:04:35.740 Oh, sorry. 05:04:35.740 --> 05:04:40.740 I was saying how he's probably the best Arabia player in the tournaments. 05:04:40.740 --> 05:04:43.740 Yeah, probably. He's very, very solid at it. 05:04:43.740 --> 05:04:47.740 Like, he also is very good about not losing, you know, random stuff. 05:04:47.740 --> 05:04:51.740 Like, the Borer steal the Nye, he did that twice now. 05:04:51.740 --> 05:04:55.740 He did it in the game against you and here he was on top of the Nye crew again. 05:04:55.740 --> 05:05:01.020 again, even though Captain Lance did a great job trying to keep the the bore laning going there in 05:05:01.020 --> 05:05:06.380 the early early game, it still didn't work out. And that's a lot of like, commitment, right? When 05:05:06.380 --> 05:05:10.700 you run forward, spend all the time trying to micro steal the enemy bore, but then in the end, 05:05:10.700 --> 05:05:16.940 you get nothing out of it. And you lose HP on the scout. Yeah. Oh, that's really awesome. 05:05:16.940 --> 05:05:21.180 That's HP on the scouts. And a little bit of focus, I guess, on this own, this own base. 05:05:21.180 --> 05:05:26.300 Yeah. Yeah. As long as you don't randomly idle or mismatch some eco, I guess it's fine. 05:05:26.940 --> 05:05:32.060 I think. Yeah, no answer that game. If he never went for the TC's and the villagers, 05:05:32.060 --> 05:05:35.340 I think he just wins that. You know, like, possibly does it, he just cuts village production 05:05:35.340 --> 05:05:38.940 completely. He just buys the food or never your names and it sells the wood or some shit. 05:05:40.220 --> 05:05:44.860 I think he was uncomfortable, right? Because captainize, he did cut villager production 05:05:44.860 --> 05:05:48.860 at first. And then I think he made the TC's to try and make up what he lost. 05:05:48.860 --> 05:05:54.860 But I think you just have to tough it out and just say okay, I cut villager production and I wanted to you know go rush 05:05:55.180 --> 05:05:59.420 Then you really need to do damage with that rush. You can't half-ass it. You gotta go, you know 05:05:59.660 --> 05:06:01.660 Need to have some nice words on this 05:06:02.300 --> 05:06:04.780 Oh, I don't say it. You don't have to say that one here 05:06:05.500 --> 05:06:08.700 No, no, no, I'm not I'm not my stream. I know what you mean 05:06:09.420 --> 05:06:14.300 Hey guys, I am back. I just want to say a huge thank you to digits for the $50 donation 05:06:14.300 --> 05:06:19.980 He says chef's kiss a fantastic tournament. Thank you digits for the $50 donation and thank you all for watching so far 05:06:19.980 --> 05:06:26.700 We're about to head into game three between captain Lance and you thermal. They're in the lobby and captain Lance is going for arena 05:06:27.500 --> 05:06:29.500 Come on. He's going for arena. Oh, wow 05:06:30.020 --> 05:06:33.900 Different map than what you thermal likes to play you thermals mainly Arabia and 05:06:34.700 --> 05:06:38.300 Yeah, they can they can get started now whatever they want. What do you guys make of arena here? 05:06:38.460 --> 05:06:42.940 How do you guys think about arena versus Arabia in general? I think the meta is vastly different 05:06:44.300 --> 05:06:48.380 Oh, it's really hard to practice arena properly in leather because every 05:06:48.940 --> 05:06:52.700 I would say two of the three games. It's some bullshit. Like it's a monk rush 05:06:52.700 --> 05:06:57.380 It's a castle in front of your gates. It's like some imperial rushing Turks and in bombards 05:06:57.540 --> 05:07:00.900 So you never really get to play like a booming game on arena 05:07:00.900 --> 05:07:06.140 And then because it's so vastly different in every single matchup, you never get to lock down the strats 05:07:06.140 --> 05:07:09.740 And that's how everybody's stupid math. Yeah, also the stupid map 05:07:09.740 --> 05:07:13.240 Okay, fair enough, it's a stupid map. 05:07:13.240 --> 05:07:14.940 I mean, yeah, go ahead. 05:07:14.940 --> 05:07:16.640 I do think a lot of it comes down to that. 05:07:16.640 --> 05:07:18.740 It's hard to know what's going on, right? 05:07:18.740 --> 05:07:21.740 Like, and that's, that's what feels stupid because it's hard. 05:07:21.740 --> 05:07:24.940 If you only have two minutes to react to something in Age of Empires, 05:07:24.940 --> 05:07:28.540 that might not be enough time for you to set up the building production, 05:07:28.540 --> 05:07:32.540 the unit production, or the tech switch that you need to address that thing. 05:07:32.540 --> 05:07:34.140 And Arena is very hidden. 05:07:34.140 --> 05:07:36.140 You don't really know what your opponent is doing, 05:07:36.140 --> 05:07:38.140 unless you're really good at reading the score, 05:07:38.140 --> 05:07:40.780 reading the uptime and understanding the sieves 05:07:40.780 --> 05:07:42.620 and their general tendencies. 05:07:42.620 --> 05:07:46.540 And these things are hard for us as less experienced players. 05:07:46.540 --> 05:07:48.060 I kind of agree with that. 05:07:48.060 --> 05:07:49.500 Even if you guys are 1,800 players, 05:07:49.500 --> 05:07:51.780 like the top of the ladder got pushed to 1,800, 05:07:51.780 --> 05:07:54.260 but are you thermal at 1,800, a grubby at 1,800, 05:07:54.260 --> 05:07:55.660 a sink sink at 1,700, 05:07:55.660 --> 05:07:57.380 do you guys have way less game knowledge 05:07:57.380 --> 05:08:00.100 than a 1,700 who's been playing for like 10 years, right? 05:08:00.100 --> 05:08:03.100 And so the only guy that really has insane sieve 05:08:03.100 --> 05:08:04.420 knowledge is actually Captain Lance. 05:08:04.420 --> 05:08:06.780 The other guys, even with higher elo have way less 05:08:06.780 --> 05:08:10.300 and you have a really good point about that, Mr. Waga. 05:08:10.300 --> 05:08:12.460 The walls here, the walls are not only defense, 05:08:12.460 --> 05:08:14.380 but they also completely deny vision. 05:08:14.380 --> 05:08:16.580 Take a look at what Waga sees, sorry, not Waga, 05:08:16.580 --> 05:08:19.100 about what he thermal sees from his opponent, nothing. 05:08:19.100 --> 05:08:20.700 Even if he goes against the wall, 05:08:20.700 --> 05:08:21.980 he can see maybe a little bit, 05:08:21.980 --> 05:08:23.780 he can maybe see a little bit over, 05:08:23.780 --> 05:08:24.780 but that doesn't really show you 05:08:24.780 --> 05:08:26.780 what Captain Lance is doing all the way back here. 05:08:26.780 --> 05:08:28.820 So even in this, you know, deep pocket. 05:08:28.820 --> 05:08:30.460 So Captain Lance, and in fact, 05:08:30.460 --> 05:08:33.260 both players really on arena have a lot of options 05:08:33.260 --> 05:08:35.260 for sneaky openings, all in pushes 05:08:35.260 --> 05:08:39.020 can be scouted and whatnot and I think that's a big difference here between 05:08:39.020 --> 05:08:45.100 Arabian arena scouting and vision very limited on arena and that's also like 05:08:45.100 --> 05:08:48.620 something that I tried to do against Sing and Sears we played just before on the 05:08:48.620 --> 05:08:51.980 arena was like when you hit feudal you get a little bit more vision on your 05:08:51.980 --> 05:08:55.420 scout so just running there licking the wall you know running along it you 05:08:55.420 --> 05:08:59.020 can maybe get some info on like where some resource could be 05:08:59.020 --> 05:09:02.020 but in Dark Age you really have no clue. 05:09:02.020 --> 05:09:08.020 By the way, this sieve picked by Captain Lance, the Malay, 05:09:08.020 --> 05:09:12.020 we saw the Malay used with the hyper aggro play coming out. 05:09:12.020 --> 05:09:17.020 That was some fortress-regicide though, but coming out from Mr. Llama. 05:09:17.020 --> 05:09:21.020 I wonder if we're going to see some form of aggro play as well, this game, 05:09:21.020 --> 05:09:25.020 or if it's mind games, Captain Lance is like fainting it by picking the same thing. 05:09:25.020 --> 05:09:27.020 That's really cool actually. For those who missed it, 05:09:27.020 --> 05:09:30.700 I think it's gonna be a set that hit YouTube if you're gonna go back and watch that one mr. Lama 05:09:30.940 --> 05:09:32.620 With a really nice rush with Malay 05:09:32.620 --> 05:09:38.420 He used it against pig and actually won that game sorry for the spoilers, but he went with a fast castle castle drop 05:09:38.580 --> 05:09:40.980 Well, he had the castle it was ready set fortress 05:09:40.980 --> 05:09:45.900 He made a bunch of Rams and he went ram karambit straight across the map and just one 05:09:45.900 --> 05:09:49.540 He one tapped the entire base of pig. He broke castle 05:09:49.540 --> 05:09:54.060 He broke some walls and he just completely cleared his economy with that all in love that you brought that up 05:09:54.060 --> 05:09:58.460 Wago because I think the same thing is actually possible here if Captain Lance wanted to go for it 05:09:58.500 --> 05:10:01.300 It's a bit harder to use to make that castle. You don't start with it 05:10:01.300 --> 05:10:04.700 But still you're pulling it also doesn't have a cast of her defense. It's got a lot of potential 05:10:05.580 --> 05:10:06.100 Burgundians 05:10:06.100 --> 05:10:10.380 I do want to say here is actually a top tier pick on arena something that gravity practice a lot 05:10:10.380 --> 05:10:13.860 Something that most most pro players consider it a top three arena pick 05:10:14.180 --> 05:10:20.220 So you thermos playing meta and Captain Lance my lady's a good sip potentially a bit like bit off-metta or a bit less on the 05:10:20.220 --> 05:10:22.220 tierless compared to Burgundians though 05:10:22.220 --> 05:10:28.220 Wow. Look at this. See, trying to funnel or is this like defensive? 05:10:28.220 --> 05:10:32.220 It's a funnel. It's funneling. It's just dumb as a mechanic in the game, dudes. 05:10:32.220 --> 05:10:36.220 Yes, I agree. I'm trying to get the devs or like smuggler. 05:10:36.220 --> 05:10:39.220 Yeah, the diagonal wall or something, right? 05:10:39.220 --> 05:10:41.220 Yes, you make this wall. 05:10:41.220 --> 05:10:43.220 They want to walk to the other side. 05:10:43.220 --> 05:10:47.220 Yeah, and they will meet at the town center. It's so stupid. 05:10:47.220 --> 05:10:50.220 So the chickens here, they naturally move around a little bit 05:10:50.220 --> 05:10:54.700 bit and if this chicken goes to this side, they have to take the shortest path which is all the way 05:10:54.700 --> 05:10:59.260 around and coincidentally, Catmoss is talented here and he's gonna eat the chicken. So the chickens 05:10:59.260 --> 05:11:03.340 and the rabbits don't know about this whole setup that Captain Lance has concocted here, 05:11:04.220 --> 05:11:10.460 but it is a death trap and unfortunately the rabbits too low IQ to not fall for it. So we're 05:11:10.460 --> 05:11:13.500 gonna see a little bit of a funnel come through and I think a lot of people are trying to get 05:11:13.500 --> 05:11:17.580 the devs to remove chickens from arena because it doesn't really add any strategic variants. 05:11:17.580 --> 05:11:24.140 It's just like, one guy who doesn't know how to funnel ethanol just mills them, and the other guy just funnels and now Capilines has an advantage. 05:11:24.140 --> 05:11:26.360 He doesn't need to make a mill, which costs 100 wood. 05:11:27.720 --> 05:11:32.640 Yeah, and he goes with the scout to scare them, pushing them so that they actually got tried to move to that other side. 05:11:32.640 --> 05:11:36.400 He's trying to speed up the funnel, I guess, getting a little further forward. 05:11:36.800 --> 05:11:39.240 But like, that's a lot of idle time. Is this even worth it? 05:11:39.240 --> 05:11:42.280 We're just like, investing in the funnel, but like, just make a mill, maybe. 05:11:42.280 --> 05:11:43.480 Let's see if it does work. 05:11:43.880 --> 05:11:44.840 I think the gate might be not... 05:11:44.840 --> 05:11:45.980 It must be yelling at them. 05:11:45.980 --> 05:11:49.180 Yeah dude the gate is not well positioned. There has to be one tile higher up I think. 05:11:49.180 --> 05:11:51.980 But no here we go here we go. They're funneling they're funneling. 05:11:51.980 --> 05:11:55.340 It's the food! Oh! It's gonna be not fasting soon. 05:11:57.500 --> 05:12:01.260 That's my favorite thing. Bro they're running! I'm trying to make it. 05:12:01.260 --> 05:12:05.260 Cap Lance! He's ready for them! Get him! Don't let him get away! 05:12:07.420 --> 05:12:12.300 Oh my goodness. Dude it's kind of dark though. It's kind of like... 05:12:12.300 --> 05:12:21.300 I don't know. Don't turn around, brother. Can't you see? Your brethren are all dead. 05:12:21.300 --> 05:12:30.300 Yeah, that's trapping. Yeah, he is rot-maxing though. That's a good point. All those rabbis 05:12:30.300 --> 05:12:35.040 just dead at the same time, all rotting at the same time, and not as efficient, let's 05:12:35.040 --> 05:12:39.140 say. Something like you thermal just milling them, but I don't know. You do pay 100 05:12:39.140 --> 05:12:42.500 the mill so I'm not sure what's actually more worth it in the end I think the funnel is good 05:12:43.780 --> 05:12:47.540 any math on the wood cost I'm not sure like you'll delete all these wood palisades 05:12:47.540 --> 05:12:52.020 but you'll still lose like what like 10 wood on that plus that walking time of the villager 05:12:52.020 --> 05:12:57.620 so overall this has its cost associated to it oh my god stone mine cap of stone he's gonna go for 05:12:57.620 --> 05:13:01.860 that rush why okay he's gonna go for the rush the one we mentioned this is doing it the mr 05:13:01.860 --> 05:13:05.300 I copied that I stole it and now he's doing it. 05:13:05.300 --> 05:13:10.620 Not on the same map, so here it's like rushing with melee 05:13:10.620 --> 05:13:14.940 because yeah, exactly, Ram and a unique unit infested. 05:13:14.940 --> 05:13:18.780 But the only thing here is that it will hit a little bit later 05:13:18.780 --> 05:13:20.380 because he has to get the stone. 05:13:20.380 --> 05:13:23.620 So obviously there's more setup on arena to do this. 05:13:25.580 --> 05:13:28.180 But one of the big advantages I imagine for melee to do this 05:13:28.180 --> 05:13:30.340 is that they actually have a faster uptime 05:13:30.340 --> 05:13:33.780 and that gives them the potential to rush a little bit more. 05:13:36.780 --> 05:13:39.340 Yeah, it's like, Kamlan has to pave his cast here, 05:13:39.340 --> 05:13:41.380 but his opponent does not have a cast to defend, 05:13:41.380 --> 05:13:43.500 and Uthermo has no idea this will come in. 05:13:43.500 --> 05:13:45.420 I love the commentary in this game so far, 05:13:45.420 --> 05:13:47.380 because we kind of mentioned how 05:13:47.380 --> 05:13:49.140 you don't really have a chance to scout this. 05:13:49.140 --> 05:13:50.660 So Uthermo will see, oh, okay, 05:13:50.660 --> 05:13:52.140 my opponent is behind walls, 05:13:52.140 --> 05:13:53.340 he's not contesting the relics, 05:13:53.340 --> 05:13:55.020 oh, he's probably booming. 05:13:55.020 --> 05:13:57.100 And the Burgundians are probably really happy 05:13:57.100 --> 05:13:58.500 to just pick up the relics. 05:13:58.500 --> 05:14:02.300 They're going to probably go like Gav, maybe just some monestates for the relics. 05:14:02.300 --> 05:14:06.260 Pregundin relics also give food in addition to gold, so Uther was thinking, 05:14:06.260 --> 05:14:09.260 oh my god, I can just pick up the relics for free here. This is great. 05:14:09.260 --> 05:14:12.860 But Captain Lance is preparing an all-in that he has no way to scout. 05:14:12.860 --> 05:14:17.700 So this is going to be a very interesting game, and yeah, we're in for some cinema, to be fair. 05:14:18.900 --> 05:14:23.500 Yeah, and it's pretty indistinguishable from whether Captain Lance was just fast-castling, right? 05:14:23.500 --> 05:14:27.540 It would probably look pretty similar. The uptime is faster from Captain Lance here, 05:14:27.540 --> 05:14:31.860 So him being faster than the thermal doesn't necessarily tip him off in any unique way 05:14:32.180 --> 05:14:36.460 Yeah, this is like a regular fast gas to build the guy could be booming, but then oh my god 05:14:36.460 --> 05:14:37.220 He's not booming 05:14:37.220 --> 05:14:43.460 He's actually making a castle and you actually just don't have a single clue that this is happening except if you can somehow 05:14:44.100 --> 05:14:50.500 Just expect it or if you just have a suspicion but as far as like actual vision they're not really gonna help you out there at all 05:14:51.140 --> 05:14:53.140 So how do you play against this then like? 05:14:53.580 --> 05:14:55.380 Whoa, what would you do? 05:14:55.380 --> 05:15:02.700 Because you would have to consider that you can do this right so actually I I just I just played against a strategy from the Japanese actually 05:15:02.780 --> 05:15:04.780 same concept 05:15:04.780 --> 05:15:05.860 On a recent game 05:15:05.860 --> 05:15:09.780 I was the Bohemians and I expected it to come so what I did was I went for a 05:15:09.940 --> 05:15:13.380 Sports each push the cheddar forces hand as soon as I made the workshop 05:15:13.380 --> 05:15:14.420 He started coming across the map 05:15:14.420 --> 05:15:17.500 I see it right away I go defensive castle workshop behind it 05:15:17.500 --> 05:15:22.660 And then I had some monks from earlier and I was able to defend pretty easily actually and push it back 05:15:22.660 --> 05:15:26.580 But to be fair, that's my adaptation. I've got like a million hours in this game 05:15:26.580 --> 05:15:30.140 I don't know if you thermal will be able to do all that in a short amount of time 05:15:30.140 --> 05:15:34.820 So it's difficult even knows about this. Yeah, that's if he knows about it. That's true 05:15:36.020 --> 05:15:38.020 Dash, by the way, just what you said 05:15:38.620 --> 05:15:43.020 Real quick that dashes pointed out this one goose here that he can't see because of the gate flag 05:15:43.020 --> 05:15:44.920 So that's a hunt is a fun 05:15:44.920 --> 05:15:49.020 It's a hundred footage. Don't have access to you for no reason. So that's kind of fun. Oh 05:15:49.020 --> 05:15:56.020 Oh well the poor chicken got pushed, at least the goose got away, he's just hiding behind 05:15:56.020 --> 05:15:57.020 the flag. 05:15:57.020 --> 05:16:01.020 He saw what happened to the chicken, he saw what happened to the rabbit running in, he's 05:16:01.020 --> 05:16:03.020 like now I'm sitting in my ass right here. 05:16:03.020 --> 05:16:04.020 Alright Bearx. 05:16:04.020 --> 05:16:06.020 We're not moving, as long as you stay still you're fine. 05:16:06.020 --> 05:16:10.020 Wait Bearx, there's one spear, oh no, it's not going to be the ram, it's going to be 05:16:10.020 --> 05:16:13.020 a forward castle, it's going to be a forward castle, this is a lot more simple of a 05:16:13.020 --> 05:16:18.020 strategy than we anticipated, it's just going to be like forward spears, forward castle. 05:16:18.020 --> 05:16:20.020 Camelons is trying to sneak out 05:16:20.540 --> 05:16:23.500 So all that talk about like a ramp push, I don't think it's gonna happen 05:16:23.500 --> 05:16:27.860 It's just gonna be a forward castle from Captain Lance using the spear with extra armor from the melee 05:16:27.860 --> 05:16:32.920 They get the armor upgrades for free to try to push out and look to defend that 05:16:34.040 --> 05:16:38.020 That castle and meanwhile you thermal made a barracks, but no stable so far 05:16:38.020 --> 05:16:40.980 So he doesn't really have much to stop this forward castle 05:16:40.980 --> 05:16:43.100 He could make some Flemish militia with the Burgundians 05:16:43.100 --> 05:16:46.740 But nothing more than that Camelons is going really sneaky around the side by the way 05:16:48.020 --> 05:16:53.880 Why have I never played Melee? They seem broken. I'm like reading them now. I'm learning stuff from this game 05:16:53.960 --> 05:17:00.340 What do you mean they get the armor for free and and I see they have a unique tech that makes militia just a straight-up food unit 05:17:00.340 --> 05:17:04.120 Yeah for late game very very solid. They're good. Melee is a very good civ 05:17:04.120 --> 05:17:06.800 Yeah, it's one of the bestives in the game for a lot of closed maps 05:17:06.800 --> 05:17:10.220 So they're okay for like for open maps are okay, but hard to play 05:17:11.100 --> 05:17:13.520 But still like a solid civ on a closed map 05:17:13.520 --> 05:17:15.320 after one of the best tips in the game. 05:17:15.320 --> 05:17:18.040 And here's why, like you get up to the next age faster, 05:17:18.040 --> 05:17:19.600 which means you have more villagers. 05:17:19.600 --> 05:17:21.040 And Catalanth is out of his town center, 05:17:21.040 --> 05:17:22.480 but normally he should be up five villagers 05:17:22.480 --> 05:17:25.040 over a generic save with Malay and Castle Age. 05:17:25.040 --> 05:17:26.480 And he's going to go for the forward castle. 05:17:26.480 --> 05:17:28.120 And I don't think you've almost seen this yet. 05:17:28.120 --> 05:17:29.360 Yeah, it's just that vision. 05:17:29.360 --> 05:17:32.240 Look at this, beautiful from Catalanth. 05:17:32.240 --> 05:17:33.080 He's so good at this. 05:17:33.080 --> 05:17:35.360 He knows exactly where to put it. 05:17:36.360 --> 05:17:38.120 Yeah, can't see. 05:17:38.120 --> 05:17:38.960 Can't see? 05:17:38.960 --> 05:17:39.800 He's booming. 05:17:39.800 --> 05:17:40.640 Oh my God, oh my God. 05:17:40.640 --> 05:17:42.640 You've almost added a town center. 05:17:42.640 --> 05:17:46.280 Oh, this is terrible for him. He's not the best arena player. He doesn't really like this map and 05:17:46.800 --> 05:17:51.120 Dude, if he has to play two or two arenas versus Captain Lance, he's cooking up some crazy shit every game 05:17:51.120 --> 05:17:55.400 It's gonna be hard for him. Monastery to take the relics as well and you thermal with the Burgundians 05:17:55.400 --> 05:17:58.880 He's in a good spot with the economy upgrades, but not going for the relics is strange 05:17:58.880 --> 05:18:01.640 And oh no the typical you thermal gather points 05:18:02.040 --> 05:18:05.000 The chat if you guys have been following you know what this he always 05:18:06.480 --> 05:18:10.200 No, no, no, it's a mistake. It's always as this. Oh, yeah 05:18:10.200 --> 05:18:12.200 Well, gave him the benefit of the doubt. 05:18:12.200 --> 05:18:13.200 No, no, no, no. 05:18:13.200 --> 05:18:16.200 The piece of selection in this game, I have the same thing. 05:18:16.200 --> 05:18:17.200 Yes. 05:18:17.200 --> 05:18:19.200 When you switch between control groups too fast, 05:18:19.200 --> 05:18:21.200 it lingers like an ally, a tenth of a second or something, 05:18:21.200 --> 05:18:23.200 and then you click and it box up. 05:18:23.200 --> 05:18:24.200 Yes, that's exactly it. 05:18:24.200 --> 05:18:25.200 Oh, oh my God! 05:18:25.200 --> 05:18:27.200 Oh, he's reaching around? 05:18:27.200 --> 05:18:28.200 Oh, no. 05:18:28.200 --> 05:18:29.200 I thought he was going to go in. 05:18:29.200 --> 05:18:30.200 It looked like he was doing it. 05:18:30.200 --> 05:18:31.200 It looked like he was doing it. 05:18:31.200 --> 05:18:33.200 Oh, he could have stood on the gate forever, right? 05:18:33.200 --> 05:18:34.200 Yes. 05:18:34.200 --> 05:18:35.200 And then he sent an army in. 05:18:35.200 --> 05:18:37.200 That was a huge bumble from Captain Lance. 05:18:37.200 --> 05:18:39.200 I need to know what happened. 05:18:39.200 --> 05:18:42.640 Stone is being rushed in for a thermal. 05:18:42.640 --> 05:18:46.320 It's got some resources to work with and try to come up with some kind of counter, but 05:18:46.320 --> 05:18:51.600 Kamans sending in the Karambits, very short, very squishy infantry units. 05:18:51.600 --> 05:18:54.720 They count for half a population each and they're very cheap. 05:18:54.720 --> 05:18:58.640 But if you mass them, they can be very hard to deal with, right? 05:18:58.640 --> 05:19:03.520 It's super fast to make as well, right? So he's spamming in and there's a lot of them already. 05:19:03.520 --> 05:19:07.920 It does not quite have the tools yet to deal with it. Surprise he's not rushing it. 05:19:07.920 --> 05:19:09.360 Yeah, I feel like it's giving time here. 05:19:09.360 --> 05:19:11.520 Catmulans give a little bit of time extra for your Thermo. 05:19:11.520 --> 05:19:14.960 Your Thermo uses that time to just go ahead and add in some houses. 05:19:14.960 --> 05:19:17.760 He's going to wall up no siege for Catmulans. 05:19:17.760 --> 05:19:19.920 So as long as there's no patards coming out of the castle, 05:19:19.920 --> 05:19:21.280 you can't really break in here. 05:19:21.280 --> 05:19:22.480 You can hit some houses, 05:19:22.480 --> 05:19:25.120 but as long as you thermal repairs and rewalls, he'll be fine. 05:19:25.120 --> 05:19:26.960 Actually, Thermo's doing okay to defend so far. 05:19:26.960 --> 05:19:28.080 Siege works up in the back. 05:19:28.080 --> 05:19:30.480 This is a decent game for both players so far. 05:19:30.480 --> 05:19:31.920 So Catmulans will take the relics, 05:19:31.920 --> 05:19:34.240 and he's got to have nice control outside of the base. 05:19:34.240 --> 05:19:35.440 He's also heavy on stones. 05:19:35.440 --> 05:19:38.420 Maybe a second castle forward from Captain Lance could come through here 05:19:39.880 --> 05:19:43.800 Yeah, he's committing to it staying staying on the golden or on the stone 05:19:43.800 --> 05:19:48.520 And there's a great spot for a castle if you can get it here between the stone and the gold would be denying 05:19:48.720 --> 05:19:50.880 Two very very important piles of resource 05:19:52.960 --> 05:19:55.660 What are you supposed to do here if you're a dermal? 05:19:57.080 --> 05:20:00.800 Oh my god at this point nothing like if you had the manganoffing 05:20:00.800 --> 05:20:04.580 Mango earlier would have been really good, but right now with no mango. There's not much you can do 05:20:04.640 --> 05:20:08.980 You have to just give ground second castle for captain Lance. There's not much you can do 05:20:08.980 --> 05:20:11.720 This is crazy from Captain Lance. You have to just give up ground 05:20:13.160 --> 05:20:15.760 Unless the man got condescending next mess I'll just know 05:20:16.360 --> 05:20:18.640 Okay, well, I'm a plan right of some kinds 05:20:19.160 --> 05:20:22.080 Okay, you gotta make a new wall right hitting the villagers 05:20:22.080 --> 05:20:26.760 This could be kind of good if not go boom on the side and then look to imp and push back 05:20:26.760 --> 05:20:30.920 maybe something like that but this magnet could deny the castle by the way it could be in time 05:20:32.360 --> 05:20:36.360 oh it's close i guess it can house it back right no he won't have to leave the house yeah 05:20:36.360 --> 05:20:41.080 keep the house you can go in he's not gonna go for it though oh i don't you think about that that's 05:20:41.080 --> 05:20:46.600 so hard to have the those high four yeah you can go for it your thermos got a 15 ability by the 05:20:46.600 --> 05:20:50.520 way it's still winnable you give up the give up the ground you still got gold here you got a 05:20:50.520 --> 05:20:55.080 lot of wood it's like infinite wood on arena virtually you can farm at the back and install 05:20:55.080 --> 05:20:59.320 till imp. You have a castle, castle, secure yourself, and then you can push back, or you 05:20:59.320 --> 05:21:03.000 can just do what Wakadid did and go ramps to try to break the castle. You've got two options 05:21:03.000 --> 05:21:05.160 for your thermal right now in defense. This is not over yet. 05:21:07.000 --> 05:21:10.360 I'm a bit scared for him though, if these houses fall, if it opens up because the 05:21:10.360 --> 05:21:15.240 Karambits are so fast, the the manganelles could be punished by it, no? If a dive is ever 05:21:15.800 --> 05:21:20.440 possible here? Absolutely. Yeah, Karambits, you know, even a petard on the house, you break 05:21:20.440 --> 05:21:26.180 Run in, dive, try to snap the villagers, try to snap the Magnals, could definitely be a 05:21:26.180 --> 05:21:27.180 play for Captain Lanz. 05:21:27.180 --> 05:21:29.960 I think Captain Lanz should play towards Fast Imperial right now. 05:21:29.960 --> 05:21:33.880 Fast Imperial, try to pick up some Trebuchets with the Malays, usually a good option. 05:21:33.880 --> 05:21:37.800 It's going to be Rams though, it's going to be Rams to be Thermal. 05:21:37.800 --> 05:21:38.800 Okay. 05:21:38.800 --> 05:21:39.800 Yeah. 05:21:39.800 --> 05:21:43.840 He wants to break this uncomfortable position. 05:21:43.840 --> 05:21:48.320 Not a nice thing to get both your forward gold completely denied like this. 05:21:48.320 --> 05:21:49.320 Yeah. 05:21:49.320 --> 05:21:51.320 have denied a lot of farm tonight as well. 05:21:51.320 --> 05:21:53.320 Magnus will help defend though, I like this. 05:21:53.320 --> 05:21:54.320 Oh, it isn't huge. 05:21:54.320 --> 05:21:55.320 Good shot! 05:21:55.320 --> 05:21:56.320 Big shot! 05:21:56.320 --> 05:21:58.320 Half the army goes down, you thermal, the nice defense there. 05:21:58.320 --> 05:22:02.320 Dude, I have so much to say, so you thermal is massing Coussivier, a unit that has been 05:22:02.320 --> 05:22:05.320 very underused as to lose the village on the market. 05:22:05.320 --> 05:22:09.320 This unit has a charge attack, it has 8 plus 20 damage for the first hit. 05:22:09.320 --> 05:22:13.320 Every minute it gets 8 plus 20 damage as the charge attack strike. 05:22:13.320 --> 05:22:17.320 It's a very, very solid unit to go for, and it's going to go for rams to break 05:22:17.320 --> 05:22:18.320 the castles. 05:22:18.320 --> 05:22:23.320 Now Captain Lance is trying to go for a fast imp. If you can get the imp safely with two castles forward 05:22:23.320 --> 05:22:27.080 Who will win the game by trebbing down everything from Ethermal, alright? 05:22:27.320 --> 05:22:33.920 But if Ethermal gets the timing and uses the rams to kill the castles all of a sudden, there's no threat of a, you know, 05:22:33.920 --> 05:22:37.320 treb push and also Ethermal's got a lot more builds than Captain Lance. 05:22:37.320 --> 05:22:41.020 So Captain Lance is all in with this fast Imperial time. What do you make of it guys? 05:22:42.120 --> 05:22:45.320 He has a hundred seconds basically. The imp timing is coming up 05:22:45.320 --> 05:22:51.040 So he needs to go quickly here and do something, but he doesn't really have the army count yet on the side of the thermal 05:22:51.040 --> 05:22:54.140 Yes, he has the seed ramps, but you need something to support them, you know 05:22:54.760 --> 05:22:56.760 Yeah, a couple of them 05:22:57.440 --> 05:23:01.500 Yeah, it's it's very fast. It's a way it comes in. I think it's faster 05:23:02.400 --> 05:23:04.400 crazy 05:23:05.920 --> 05:23:09.520 Yeah, if you're like coming in quick couple of buildings going down and no loom by the way 05:23:09.520 --> 05:23:13.140 We have a loom only now coming in of course 25 minute loom when getting cast a drop 05:23:13.140 --> 05:23:18.640 So many villagers dying because there's no loom, but it's a mega loom every game is a mega loom like this 05:23:18.640 --> 05:23:22.900 These players never learn again. He's doing crazy shit with the micro. Just forgets loom 05:23:23.460 --> 05:23:27.940 I'll breathe putting on their little armor, you know, instead their random like 05:23:28.580 --> 05:23:30.580 aprons or whatever 05:23:33.980 --> 05:23:39.300 If you're a little bit, I think you thermal might choke against this Imperial edge that he might be like, oh 05:23:39.300 --> 05:23:44.300 Holy shit this is crazy, but in theory if you just commit to the Rampush you can still win 05:23:44.300 --> 05:23:46.300 but he needs to commit, there's no time for him to go imp now. 05:23:46.300 --> 05:23:50.300 He needs to commit to the Rampush and he's not making them which is making me a little nervous. 05:23:54.300 --> 05:23:58.300 Or two rams enough, or do you need like five? I feel like you need ten. 05:23:58.300 --> 05:24:00.300 Yeah, yeah, I need two. 05:24:00.300 --> 05:24:05.300 Two is not enough. I would say five is minimum here because you need to do against the Karambits as well. 05:24:05.300 --> 05:24:10.500 kill the castle while the grambits are trying to kill your ram so two is nowhere near enough and you 05:24:10.500 --> 05:24:16.500 think I'm showing it like this is terrible yeah they're also non garrison there's nothing in there no 05:24:16.500 --> 05:24:21.780 no pikes no nothing so they're not moving very quickly slowly crawling up this house oh yes the 05:24:21.780 --> 05:24:26.020 watch out they doesn't do what i do and kill his own battering rams as well i'm not gonna let us 05:24:26.020 --> 05:24:30.100 Garrison play is the worst rampage I've ever seen. Oh 05:24:32.860 --> 05:24:34.860 That's crazy from Lance 05:24:35.100 --> 05:24:38.180 Garrisons he killed around with the manganese. Wow 05:24:39.380 --> 05:24:41.500 Trumps is trapped. Oh, who is this guy? 05:24:43.500 --> 05:24:45.900 Did you delete the castle and save the trap I wouldn't 05:24:45.900 --> 05:24:51.900 Now he's going to die. Wow, that was insane from Captain Lance. 05:24:51.900 --> 05:24:54.900 He was in and out to dodge the Magninol. The Trev is still saved. 05:24:54.900 --> 05:24:58.900 He can get a village at your pair if he really wants, but the castle might go down, the Trev might survive. 05:24:58.900 --> 05:25:02.900 Oh my goodness, it's Lance Domination. He's the captain for a reason, 05:25:02.900 --> 05:25:06.900 and it's the captain that's destroying the thermal space completely now. 05:25:06.900 --> 05:25:10.900 Karambit to kill everything, and the Trev's to take down all the buildings. 05:25:10.900 --> 05:25:14.900 A beautiful, beautiful play from Captain Lance. He's for sure over now. 05:25:14.900 --> 05:25:19.760 over now. The 80 villagers are good for nothing. You've almost tried to go Cavalier Stam? I 05:25:19.760 --> 05:25:21.900 don't think it's enough though. Wow. 05:25:21.900 --> 05:25:28.240 Yeah, he's just over this now. There's no, look at the poor wood line. Cherry's getting 05:25:28.240 --> 05:25:31.620 some units in, but the number. I don't care if the Cavalier are strong. Look at the 05:25:31.620 --> 05:25:33.900 amount of Unique and it's coming in for lands. 05:25:33.900 --> 05:25:37.780 Yeah. They also got the free armor upgrade and imp as well. So like, these guys are 05:25:37.780 --> 05:25:40.980 supposed to be squishy, but like they feel really tanky and early in because it's 05:25:40.980 --> 05:25:46.340 like they just have so much armor hard to deal with Cavalier will destroy them one-on-one but of 05:25:46.340 --> 05:25:49.380 course it's never a one-on-one it's like a thousand on one with these Karambits 05:25:54.740 --> 05:25:58.180 he can just keep spam producing and he has the four trebs as well he's kind of keeps 05:25:58.180 --> 05:26:03.140 slowly moving those forward take out more of these tc's and at least you thermal is trying to 05:26:03.140 --> 05:26:07.940 mass up his cavalier he's realizing he can't really fight unless he gets a few more 05:26:07.940 --> 05:26:09.940 He made 8 stables in the back. 05:26:09.940 --> 05:26:11.940 He's trying to stand. 05:26:11.940 --> 05:26:13.940 He's just trying. 05:26:13.940 --> 05:26:17.940 I think because he didn't do it right away with the round push, I think he just didn't know what to do honestly. 05:26:17.940 --> 05:26:22.940 I don't blame him. It's such a weird situation that Catalanth is like concocted here. 05:26:22.940 --> 05:26:25.940 Cranbeth taking engagement against Cavalier. 05:26:25.940 --> 05:26:28.940 This could go either way actually. It's a lot of Cavalier here too. 05:26:28.940 --> 05:26:31.940 It kind of feels like a Cumans threat. 05:26:31.940 --> 05:26:33.940 On the fortress. 05:26:33.940 --> 05:26:34.940 Yeah similar. 05:26:34.940 --> 05:26:35.940 Same vibes. 05:26:35.940 --> 05:26:42.420 Castle forward and second castle forward trebs fast them. That's very true. She's to be kept once his favorite style it seems 05:26:43.780 --> 05:26:49.080 Yeah, it's selling a bunch of resources trying to get whatever you can to get more cavalier on fields producing more 05:26:51.680 --> 05:26:55.540 But the PCs are all dropping yeah, it's homeless villagers now look at them 05:26:55.820 --> 05:27:00.580 Where do we go? Oh my goodness? We have to run. We have to run 05:27:00.580 --> 05:27:02.580 I don't think I know where you're going. 05:27:02.580 --> 05:27:04.580 You thought we were going to make a mill. 05:27:04.580 --> 05:27:08.580 I think it's going to get shot down immediately, to be fair. 05:27:08.580 --> 05:27:10.580 It's going to the corner. 05:27:10.580 --> 05:27:12.580 It feels like Helm's deep. 05:27:12.580 --> 05:27:14.580 It's like the last retreat right now, but it's not looking good. 05:27:14.580 --> 05:27:16.580 Can I go to the stables boys? 05:27:16.580 --> 05:27:18.580 There's no even a TC back there. 05:27:18.580 --> 05:27:20.580 Is it just stables? 05:27:20.580 --> 05:27:22.580 Stables and farmland was nothing. 05:27:26.580 --> 05:27:28.580 One guy just starts farming in the middle of nowhere. 05:27:30.580 --> 05:27:33.280 There's no place to drop off the farms. 05:27:33.280 --> 05:27:34.280 These guys just live here. 05:27:34.280 --> 05:27:35.280 They're not even working. 05:27:35.280 --> 05:27:36.280 They didn't live there. 05:27:36.280 --> 05:27:39.880 But the Cavalier woke me up with the Carambits, I think, a little. 05:27:39.880 --> 05:27:41.280 How many are stacked there, though, actually? 05:27:41.280 --> 05:27:42.480 No, there's 20 Carambits here. 05:27:42.480 --> 05:27:43.480 I don't know. 05:27:43.480 --> 05:27:44.480 Oh, wow. 05:27:44.480 --> 05:27:47.720 They have them fully stacked there. 05:27:47.720 --> 05:27:52.480 He's putting up one hell of a fight here towards the very end. 05:27:52.480 --> 05:27:53.480 Yeah. 05:27:53.480 --> 05:27:54.480 Five of them stand. 05:27:54.480 --> 05:27:57.880 The funny thing is, Uthromba has a 20-villager lead. 05:27:57.880 --> 05:27:58.880 It's not worth anything. 05:27:58.880 --> 05:27:59.880 No way. 05:27:59.880 --> 05:28:03.380 20 literally like this to show you guys how these all ends function like a 05:28:03.380 --> 05:28:07.220 balance has a very poor economy behind this but it's just enough he's got the 05:28:07.220 --> 05:28:10.680 five bucks fueling his gold economy he uses the market to buy a little bit of 05:28:10.680 --> 05:28:14.520 food and makes really cheap units with trebuchets to kill everything but the 05:28:14.520 --> 05:28:19.220 amount he's killed is so much a new 3g okay and your life yeah I suspect you 05:28:19.220 --> 05:28:23.400 get it's John is best bro I have a question 05:28:23.400 --> 05:28:27.560 era what if you made batards now do the Cavaliers die to a petard blowing 05:28:27.560 --> 05:28:32.720 up in their face not really so the petard that's 25 damage only two units so like 05:28:32.720 --> 05:28:36.320 the petard is not that aggressive versus Cavalier oh you know what's going in he 05:28:36.320 --> 05:28:47.040 dodges actual value value Cavalier that might do the same no nice thinking about 05:28:47.040 --> 05:28:50.080 it maybe but he's actually trying to cut off any form of reinforces oh this is 05:28:50.080 --> 05:28:55.600 not what he wants to fight oh that fight wins the Chad yeah it took down 05:28:55.600 --> 05:29:00.600 too. That's you. You're not a hero. There's a brother here. We're back to the berries. 05:29:00.600 --> 05:29:07.840 My goodness. Oh boy. Eight dissaturation. Eight dissaturation. You got way more than 05:29:07.840 --> 05:29:13.760 eight. It's terrible. It's terrible. Horrible. A block went to coming in. It's gonna give 05:29:13.760 --> 05:29:19.480 extra three range to the monks. You turn them all. He's in a terrible situation. 05:29:19.480 --> 05:29:22.440 I don't know what you do here. You're stabbing the mill. You're stabbing the fucking 05:29:22.440 --> 05:29:37.080 mill and you throw a mix another one it makes two it's so smart this is 05:29:37.080 --> 05:29:41.080 fantastic captain latz brings in the monks now he's the only guy who's the 05:29:41.080 --> 05:29:44.680 boxing monks yeah they have 12 range now with block renting so to convert the 05:29:44.680 --> 05:29:48.360 cab and you throw them all in the corner you look at the meaning of who 05:29:48.360 --> 05:29:50.760 You're terrible. It's like a pocket. This is terrible. 05:29:50.760 --> 05:29:53.160 Yeah, this is the funniest spot. 05:29:54.160 --> 05:29:55.160 Finally it goes in. 05:29:55.160 --> 05:29:57.060 Finally it goes in GG. 05:29:57.060 --> 05:29:59.960 You're terrible. No one can say he doesn't have the fighting spirit, guys. 05:29:59.960 --> 05:30:03.260 GG in the chat though. Captain Lance is the freaking chef. 05:30:03.260 --> 05:30:05.360 Bro, what the hell is this guy cooking? 05:30:05.360 --> 05:30:06.760 Seriously, I mean, fast imp. 05:30:06.760 --> 05:30:09.560 We've seen it with the humans and Redus had fortress. 05:30:09.560 --> 05:30:11.860 Now we see the Malay doing something similar. 05:30:11.860 --> 05:30:12.860 He really planned it out. 05:30:12.860 --> 05:30:15.560 He went super sneaky mode with the villagers out the side. 05:30:15.560 --> 05:30:16.660 Came through with the castle. 05:30:16.660 --> 05:30:20.980 2nd Castle forward to all the Relics. I have to say though, I think Uthermo, not playing 05:30:20.980 --> 05:30:25.140 Light Gav to play for the Relics like the Burgundians normally do, I think that really 05:30:25.140 --> 05:30:29.300 hurt him because he had no units on the field to stop the Castles and especially that 2nd 05:30:29.300 --> 05:30:33.400 Castle that was illegal. I think Uthermo should never have let that go up but even 05:30:33.400 --> 05:30:37.220 after it went up, not committing to that round push, Uthermo had many chances and 05:30:37.220 --> 05:30:42.140 I feel like he just kind of fumbled them all because he didn't know what to do. 05:30:42.140 --> 05:30:47.980 Either at least having some scouts out and controlling the relics like you said or getting some form of vision on the map 05:30:47.980 --> 05:30:52.060 If you don't have presence in former units, I think you need to have build something forward 05:30:52.060 --> 05:30:58.240 Maybe outposts maybe some you know external housing like you need some way to see this attack coming 05:30:58.240 --> 05:31:02.580 Yeah, otherwise you just get taken by surprise and it's so hard to be defending out of nowhere 05:31:02.940 --> 05:31:05.540 Yeah, and you thermal is now down to match point 05:31:05.540 --> 05:31:09.100 Let me just show you guys the bracket once again here just to see what we're talking about right now 05:31:09.100 --> 05:31:12.140 Captain Lance playing ASU Thermal, of course, it's 2-1 Captain Lance. 05:31:12.140 --> 05:31:14.940 The winner of this will move on to the upper bracket final, 05:31:14.940 --> 05:31:16.780 a very prestigious position to be in. 05:31:16.780 --> 05:31:21.340 Of course, the loser will face Wagamama in the loser bracket quarterfinal in a knockout stage. 05:31:21.340 --> 05:31:26.140 We have Grubby versus Pig after this, and I have a final decisive say, 05:31:26.860 --> 05:31:28.860 Knopf versus Hrock will not be played. 05:31:28.860 --> 05:31:31.820 Knopf gets the win, it's not going to be reverted, 05:31:31.820 --> 05:31:33.980 and that is the final decision made. 05:31:33.980 --> 05:31:37.020 We're not going to go back on that, so just a quick update there. 05:31:37.020 --> 05:31:39.020 We'll find out what we do with the schedule. 05:31:39.020 --> 05:31:41.020 but that will not be changed. 05:31:41.020 --> 05:31:42.940 That feels like the best decision. 05:31:42.940 --> 05:31:44.580 I know it's not a good decision 05:31:44.580 --> 05:31:45.780 because there's some Hrock fans 05:31:45.780 --> 05:31:47.580 that really wanted to see him play, 05:31:47.580 --> 05:31:49.300 but at the end of the day, I think 05:31:49.300 --> 05:31:50.700 that's the decision that feels the best. 05:31:50.700 --> 05:31:53.460 So it's not, it's not Knopf's fault at all. 05:31:53.460 --> 05:31:56.180 He, you know, is more than in his right to get that win. 05:31:56.180 --> 05:31:58.420 We gave Hrock all the chances in the world 05:31:58.420 --> 05:31:59.780 and it's not even Hrock's fault. 05:31:59.780 --> 05:32:00.860 He stopped and it happens. 05:32:00.860 --> 05:32:01.980 It's fine. 05:32:01.980 --> 05:32:03.460 It's no problem. 05:32:03.460 --> 05:32:04.660 No worries there. 05:32:04.660 --> 05:32:05.980 Either way, no hard feelings. 05:32:05.980 --> 05:32:07.180 Knopf takes the win 05:32:07.180 --> 05:32:08.100 and it's gonna be the Swedes 05:32:08.100 --> 05:32:09.460 in the loser bracket quarterfinals. 05:32:09.460 --> 05:32:10.300 Awaiting the captain. 05:32:10.300 --> 05:32:12.420 So the top six remaining here. 05:32:12.420 --> 05:32:13.360 So we're waiting now. 05:32:14.660 --> 05:32:16.180 Atrock says fair, it's my bad. 05:32:16.180 --> 05:32:17.620 I stayed up till 4am practicing. 05:32:17.620 --> 05:32:18.700 Good luck to Knopf. 05:32:18.700 --> 05:32:21.380 Atrock just working too hard. 05:32:21.380 --> 05:32:22.620 He just tries too hard. 05:32:22.620 --> 05:32:23.620 He cares too much. 05:32:23.620 --> 05:32:25.500 He's got a lot of bad qualities like that. 05:32:25.500 --> 05:32:26.740 And it happens, bro. 05:32:26.740 --> 05:32:27.580 No worries, Atrock. 05:32:27.580 --> 05:32:29.040 I will say I was excited to watch you play, 05:32:29.040 --> 05:32:30.000 but it's fine. 05:32:30.000 --> 05:32:30.840 Fair play to you. 05:32:30.840 --> 05:32:31.820 Hopefully we'll have you in the castor booth 05:32:31.820 --> 05:32:32.660 at some point, 05:32:32.660 --> 05:32:33.500 but fair play to Knopf as well. 05:32:33.500 --> 05:32:34.500 He'll move on. 05:32:34.500 --> 05:32:35.700 He showed up and he gets the win. 05:32:35.700 --> 05:32:37.820 So just wanna make that very clear. 05:32:37.820 --> 05:32:40.820 But I thank you all for bearing patience with us. 05:32:40.820 --> 05:32:42.220 It's my first time hosting a tournament, 05:32:42.220 --> 05:32:43.820 so always hard to make these calls. 05:32:43.820 --> 05:32:46.300 But anyway, back to Captain Lance in your thermal. 05:32:46.300 --> 05:32:47.860 It's gonna be your thermal's home map. 05:32:47.860 --> 05:32:49.460 It's two to one for Captain Lance, 05:32:49.460 --> 05:32:51.940 and it's gonna be thermal to win two straight 05:32:51.940 --> 05:32:53.700 or fall down to the loser bracket. 05:32:53.700 --> 05:32:55.980 Wagga, I have a genuine question for you. 05:32:55.980 --> 05:32:57.660 Which of these two players would you rather face 05:32:57.660 --> 05:32:58.500 in the loser bracket? 05:32:58.500 --> 05:33:01.700 Because like Captain Lance is maybe slightly weaker 05:33:01.700 --> 05:33:03.020 in terms of micro-macro, 05:33:03.020 --> 05:33:05.180 but he's got so much more knowledge than your thermal. 05:33:05.180 --> 05:33:07.580 What for you would be the better matchup, 05:33:07.580 --> 05:33:08.420 Mr. Waga. 05:33:09.820 --> 05:33:13.220 I mean, I did, I never played against Captain Lance 05:33:13.220 --> 05:33:14.780 other than match we had officially, 05:33:14.780 --> 05:33:16.960 where he absolutely stomped me. 05:33:16.960 --> 05:33:18.220 Previously I thought that you, 05:33:18.220 --> 05:33:19.740 you thermal would be the harder matchup, 05:33:19.740 --> 05:33:22.700 but seeing this series as well and how it's going, 05:33:22.700 --> 05:33:24.580 Captain Lance is just showing to be very deep 05:33:24.580 --> 05:33:26.220 in his understanding of the game. 05:33:26.220 --> 05:33:29.580 And I also want to point out it is two to one right now, 05:33:29.580 --> 05:33:32.660 but we were like millimeters away from Captain Lance 05:33:32.660 --> 05:33:35.020 taking that one game that you thermal one, 05:33:35.020 --> 05:33:37.060 he was nearly out as well. 05:33:37.060 --> 05:33:40.340 So I think so far Captain has just looks like a scary player man. 05:33:40.340 --> 05:33:42.980 He's very strong, I felt it first hand. 05:33:42.980 --> 05:33:46.020 I think he thermal, my captain, captain my captain, 05:33:46.020 --> 05:33:47.980 you know, come to the lower bracket man, 05:33:47.980 --> 05:33:49.220 come hang out with me. 05:33:50.720 --> 05:33:52.900 Let me take out your captain. 05:33:52.900 --> 05:33:54.820 See how that plays out. 05:33:54.820 --> 05:33:57.420 Yeah, you went through the nation round. 05:33:57.420 --> 05:33:59.840 You went through like so many different stages 05:33:59.840 --> 05:34:01.820 in this tournament and to face your captain 05:34:01.820 --> 05:34:02.660 in the lower bracket, 05:34:02.660 --> 05:34:04.980 I think would be like the biggest test yet for you. 05:34:04.980 --> 05:34:06.300 We're yet to see Grubby play today. 05:34:06.300 --> 05:34:10.460 Grubby vs. Ping is of course next up, but for now it's going to be Youth Thermals home map 05:34:10.460 --> 05:34:12.260 and he's decided on Arabia. 05:34:12.260 --> 05:34:16.380 Alright, it's going to be Arabia for Uthermo, and Captain Lance is hosting the lobby. 05:34:16.380 --> 05:34:19.180 We're going to be waiting for the match to get started here. 05:34:19.180 --> 05:34:24.180 Yeah, this is where he shines for sure, like saying pointed out earlier, like Uthermo 05:34:24.180 --> 05:34:26.660 is a very good understanding on this map. 05:34:26.660 --> 05:34:31.380 The stressful part and the downside for him is of course that Game 1 that Captain 05:34:31.380 --> 05:34:35.580 Lance came in, more decisive, more early aggression, more action coming out from 05:34:35.580 --> 05:34:40.200 him or unit production early means that he doesn't need to win this one to 05:34:40.200 --> 05:34:43.640 potentially win the series. He still has one game to fall back on whereas the 05:34:43.640 --> 05:34:48.720 thermal he just needs to double down here one win here and then win on Captain 05:34:48.720 --> 05:34:52.600 Lance's pick and that's scary man. Yeah that's really scary and it must be said 05:34:52.600 --> 05:34:55.880 as well Captain Lance is just it's not just a guy that just knows things he 05:34:55.880 --> 05:34:59.440 also has insane micro like we saw from that Karambit play just going in and 05:34:59.440 --> 05:35:02.400 out of the castle to dodge the mangane shot that was a highlight worthy 05:35:02.400 --> 05:35:07.600 of like pro play that was insanely well played from Captain Lance kind of making a making a fool out 05:35:07.600 --> 05:35:12.080 of the Uthermal Manganos they're killing their own rams so Captain Lance has the knowledge 05:35:12.080 --> 05:35:16.560 he's also got the skills to back it up here and the game has started guys we're gonna be hopping 05:35:16.560 --> 05:35:20.960 right in Captain Lance versus Uthermal who's rocking the name Fortress Specialist which is 05:35:20.960 --> 05:35:28.080 kind of funny um sometimes you have to channel you know channel something to try and manifest 05:35:28.080 --> 05:35:35.080 it but didn't necessarily work out yeah I think that that play on the castle was 05:35:35.080 --> 05:35:39.000 beautiful because he also ran into the castle from behind and hopped out on the 05:35:39.000 --> 05:35:41.700 front right it wasn't just that he was dodging the shots but I think he 05:35:41.700 --> 05:35:45.880 actually just teleported his troops to the front line there it's really nice 05:35:45.880 --> 05:35:53.280 to know all right just kind of setting up what is this safe this is 05:35:53.280 --> 05:35:57.520 Molly is Molly is or I'm familiar with them I actually practiced them a 05:35:57.520 --> 05:36:00.480 a little bit. Don't worry, Hera, I'll take this one. 05:36:00.480 --> 05:36:01.480 Oh, please. 05:36:01.480 --> 05:36:07.360 So Malia is an infantry save. That's why I'm familiar with them saying. They are kind 05:36:07.360 --> 05:36:13.640 of like Romans, actually. They get automatic armor in feudal and castle and imperial, however, 05:36:13.640 --> 05:36:19.080 it's only pierce armor. So they're not giga-chads like the Roman Manatarms. However, they do 05:36:19.080 --> 05:36:22.760 get pierce armor, so very good at raiding with their infantry if you want to. But 05:36:22.760 --> 05:36:32.060 I've seen them played as a non-Man at Arms rush save as well and just been useful for other things. 05:36:32.060 --> 05:36:37.060 I don't fully understand what else you can do with the go Man at Arms, so that's where maybe here I can fill in. 05:36:37.060 --> 05:36:42.060 Yeah, absolutely. So Malon is actually not an Infugitive, so that's definitely not the right call from Malon. 05:36:42.060 --> 05:36:43.060 I know I'm kidding. 05:36:43.060 --> 05:36:44.060 Thanks. 05:36:44.060 --> 05:36:47.060 Just let you finish and dunk on here. 05:36:47.060 --> 05:36:52.420 The funny thing is, I can just spit up a story and I'm right for sure, because Argyra Yatesby 05:36:52.420 --> 05:36:55.380 is like the hardest thing in the world when you're just like trying to piece together. 05:36:55.380 --> 05:36:57.380 No, I swear they're infutusive. 05:36:57.380 --> 05:36:59.220 They aren't infutusive, that's true. 05:36:59.220 --> 05:37:02.340 Laga, some good comments here there on your end. 05:37:02.340 --> 05:37:05.340 Malian's actually quite flexible though, so on top of being infutusive they get 05:37:05.340 --> 05:37:06.340 extra armor. 05:37:06.340 --> 05:37:11.260 They can do most things pretty much until, you know, until Imperialism. 05:37:11.260 --> 05:37:12.980 Like late castes, they have everything. 05:37:12.980 --> 05:37:14.980 So they have a double eco bonus. 05:37:14.980 --> 05:37:16.460 Their wood buildings are cheaper. 05:37:16.460 --> 05:37:20.780 they also gather more gold. So anything wood gold, they're in a really good position to do. 05:37:20.780 --> 05:37:24.780 So something like Men are armed to archers, it's a beautiful strategy with the Malians. 05:37:24.780 --> 05:37:29.980 We also saw Atroc use the Malians for an all-in archer play against Uthermo actually, 05:37:30.700 --> 05:37:36.380 and he went for something like a 17-vill up, stop-making villagers, 3-vills forward, 05:37:36.380 --> 05:37:40.380 2-range archers, and he almost worked. Atroc almost got the upset against Uthermo, 05:37:40.380 --> 05:37:43.740 Uthermo just barely held, and so the Malians are very flexible with a lot of 05:37:43.740 --> 05:37:47.100 of cool strategies based on those economy bonuses. 05:37:47.100 --> 05:37:51.420 But I want to ask Singsing something here, you've played against the Romans, it's the 05:37:51.420 --> 05:37:55.340 most picked of the term, it's had a lot of success, how do you feel about the Romans? 05:37:55.340 --> 05:37:58.780 You feel like it's really hard to fight them, do you feel like it's broken with the very 05:37:58.780 --> 05:38:02.540 tanky infantry, what's your vibe there? 05:38:02.540 --> 05:38:07.020 I tried to fight them with the mugger scouts, but it wasn't good enough. 05:38:07.020 --> 05:38:10.020 You have to go archers against the Romans, there's no archers, if you fight the 05:38:10.020 --> 05:38:13.020 melee they beat everything in through the edge. 05:38:13.020 --> 05:38:15.020 Yeah, I think so as well, let's do the Akers scouting strategy. 05:38:15.020 --> 05:38:16.020 I mean, you just have to like... 05:38:16.020 --> 05:38:17.020 You go ahead. 05:38:17.020 --> 05:38:18.020 Yeah, I'm feeling like you're doing Spears, right? 05:38:18.020 --> 05:38:19.020 Exactly, yeah. 05:38:19.020 --> 05:38:20.020 And then you set my slip again. 05:38:20.020 --> 05:38:21.020 Exactly. 05:38:21.020 --> 05:38:22.020 That's what I was gonna say. 05:38:22.020 --> 05:38:24.020 And the Spears come in and just ruin the scout strategy. 05:38:24.020 --> 05:38:26.020 So you're pretty set that you have to go archers. 05:38:26.020 --> 05:38:27.020 And I guess you have to make sure you're walled, 05:38:27.020 --> 05:38:28.020 because in that Vietnamese game, 05:38:28.020 --> 05:38:31.020 you had a very obvious hole between the house and the range. 05:38:31.020 --> 05:38:32.020 I think everybody fought in the chat. 05:38:32.020 --> 05:38:33.020 Yeah, it was obvious. 05:38:33.020 --> 05:38:34.020 Yeah. 05:38:34.020 --> 05:38:35.020 Very obvious. 05:38:35.020 --> 05:38:36.020 Kind of cringy. 05:38:36.020 --> 05:38:37.020 I saw it immediately, dude. 05:38:37.020 --> 05:38:38.020 I ran in. 05:38:38.020 --> 05:38:40.020 Yeah, you did walk in. 05:38:40.020 --> 05:38:42.020 You can think about it. 05:38:42.020 --> 05:38:48.720 Yeah, I mean, Romans definitely the strongest sieve that we've seen, at least the most consistent. 05:38:48.720 --> 05:38:52.760 And Cap'n'Lance is kind of trying to use that very consistent Romans, try to get that 05:38:52.760 --> 05:38:54.520 win and close up the series against your thermal. 05:38:54.520 --> 05:38:55.520 Your thermal relying on the malice. 05:38:55.520 --> 05:38:57.040 He's played the sieving and syncing as well. 05:38:57.040 --> 05:39:00.160 Played it more like archer timing though, less on the infantry. 05:39:00.160 --> 05:39:01.840 See what he has to go for right now. 05:39:01.840 --> 05:39:03.040 20 pop click for your thermal. 05:39:03.040 --> 05:39:05.800 It looks like Cap'n'Lance is thinking about the same. 05:39:05.800 --> 05:39:09.960 Yeah, and Cap'n'Lance is pushing the deer already, so he's getting that extra 05:39:09.960 --> 05:39:14.340 food very valuable when you play any form of early aggression like this as well as getting 05:39:14.340 --> 05:39:18.280 extra food and you can see he has the mill to the left so nice heads up play that he actually 05:39:18.280 --> 05:39:20.800 just farms with the villagers over on the berries. 05:39:20.800 --> 05:39:21.800 Yeah, he did. 05:39:21.800 --> 05:39:22.800 Did he get rid of those? 05:39:22.800 --> 05:39:23.800 Yeah, he did. 05:39:23.800 --> 05:39:24.800 That's a good question. 05:39:24.800 --> 05:39:26.800 You thermal did skip his gear actually. 05:39:26.800 --> 05:39:27.800 Yeah, he did. 05:39:27.800 --> 05:39:28.800 Interesting. 05:39:28.800 --> 05:39:29.800 Yeah, on the left. 05:39:29.800 --> 05:39:30.800 Yeah. 05:39:30.800 --> 05:39:31.800 Did he see them? 05:39:31.800 --> 05:39:32.800 He scouted them, right? 05:39:32.800 --> 05:39:33.800 Yeah. 05:39:33.800 --> 05:39:34.800 Oh, he didn't see them. 05:39:34.800 --> 05:39:37.240 Oh, he barely missed them. 05:39:37.240 --> 05:39:41.980 I wonder if that's in a vitamin the ass though because like going forward is fine getting that scouting info is actually okay 05:39:42.060 --> 05:39:46.380 It's gonna fight against the land scout. I think trading is a scout in your point as Romans 05:39:46.380 --> 05:39:50.860 It's really good because the Menoram rush is a lot less scary if they don't have that scout to block as well 05:39:50.860 --> 05:39:54.160 So it's okay for for for you thermal game that scouting is fine 05:39:54.280 --> 05:39:57.500 But it does mean that he's got less food. So like one this food runs out 05:39:57.880 --> 05:40:02.340 Not having the deer means okay. You got you got a farm earlier, which could really hurt his 05:40:02.540 --> 05:40:06.020 You know his productivity in terms of military in the early feudal 05:40:07.240 --> 05:40:11.620 Yeah, already seeing a little bit of a difference as well as you thermal is 05:40:11.620 --> 05:40:16.020 swapping on to quite a bit of wood gathering as well at this point and of 05:40:16.020 --> 05:40:21.460 course Captain Lance doing the the Roman build pretty much he's clicked up we 05:40:21.460 --> 05:40:25.240 did not have production yet though. Yeah pretty strange actually Waga your 05:40:25.240 --> 05:40:29.380 build is a lot cleaner so clearly Captain Lance is not as practiced with the 05:40:29.380 --> 05:40:32.980 Romans which is fair enough he does play a wide variety of civilizations here 05:40:32.980 --> 05:40:35.740 but I mean it's not the end of the world but Waga you were a lot more 05:40:35.740 --> 05:40:40.180 deliberate about getting those men arms, you know, up right away, hitting that perfect timing. 05:40:40.180 --> 05:40:44.060 This is quite late for Captain Lance. He's prioritized the walls instead and that could 05:40:44.060 --> 05:40:48.100 be okay but this rush is not as powerful as it could be because the timing has been missed 05:40:48.100 --> 05:40:49.100 a little bit. 05:40:49.100 --> 05:40:53.700 Yeah, he's not going to full send it, right? This is not going to be a five man Militia 05:40:53.700 --> 05:40:57.060 moving forward. It looks like it's going to turn into a three man or a very late 05:40:57.060 --> 05:41:02.060 five man. But five man late Militia feels useless. So I think now he just goes 05:41:02.060 --> 05:41:04.060 three Militia forward. 05:41:04.060 --> 05:41:07.060 He might go forward, but he's going to wait for us. 05:41:07.060 --> 05:41:08.060 We'll see. 05:41:08.060 --> 05:41:09.060 Nice going. 05:41:09.060 --> 05:41:10.060 3-4. 05:41:10.060 --> 05:41:11.060 Yeah, 3-4. 05:41:11.060 --> 05:41:13.060 And okay, let's say, Sing Sing, it's you with your thermal with the stable. 05:41:13.060 --> 05:41:17.060 You try to fight this or you try to counterattack first? 05:41:17.060 --> 05:41:22.060 Uh, I start to say, because normally the timing is different. 05:41:22.060 --> 05:41:24.060 She's already in the base, right? 05:41:24.060 --> 05:41:27.060 I think if she's already in the base, I would defend. 05:41:27.060 --> 05:41:30.060 But if she's this late, I would counterattack. 05:41:30.060 --> 05:41:32.060 This isn't moving back. 05:41:32.060 --> 05:41:39.500 not really sending this. This is a very defensive opening despite investing resources. So to me it 05:41:39.500 --> 05:41:44.020 looks like he's he's waiting for the blacksmith timing as well. Maybe the you know, the villager 05:41:44.020 --> 05:41:48.060 allocation in the early game didn't allow him to get the immediate armor upgrade and you really 05:41:48.060 --> 05:41:53.460 want to get the man at arms plus the armor if you're gonna fight. Yeah, he's just in forever 05:41:53.460 --> 05:41:58.700 right now. Yeah, that's what happened in in singing my game was the same I went forward as 05:41:58.700 --> 05:42:01.980 Militia and the same went for Scouts. Now we have sort of the same thing. 05:42:01.980 --> 05:42:04.780 You don't want to lose your Militia to the Scouts before getting upgraded. That kind of 05:42:04.780 --> 05:42:09.900 happened in my game, so he's trying to avoid that. But at the cost of maybe losing that valuable 05:42:09.900 --> 05:42:15.900 temple, mana terms are not good as a defending unit. Yeah, mana arms to defend, it's not where 05:42:15.900 --> 05:42:19.020 you want to be. I think like just attacking with the mana arms and defending with a couple 05:42:19.020 --> 05:42:22.540 spearmen to finish serving a lot better. Missing that armor still, that armor 05:42:22.540 --> 05:42:26.460 should be rushed. And honestly, I think this just makes us appreciate Waga's gameplay a 05:42:26.460 --> 05:42:32.460 a little bit more with the Romans this time easy rush to hit all the timings with and Catmulans certainly has not really found the 05:42:32.620 --> 05:42:34.940 optimal way to play Romans it doesn't mean that he's dead 05:42:34.940 --> 05:42:38.380 It just means that he gives up a chance to get a lead in the early game 05:42:38.380 --> 05:42:42.640 Which is what you're trying to do with the Romans is just inefficient and not the best play 05:42:43.020 --> 05:42:45.660 But it doesn't mean that he's falling behind or anything like that 05:42:45.660 --> 05:42:48.700 He's got the formula so he's got the four-minute arm with armor on the way 05:42:48.700 --> 05:42:53.180 You can still win this game, of course, but you thermal kind of kind of chilling right now 05:42:53.180 --> 05:42:59.020 Do I have like a sigh of relief because Lance has not been playing Romans a whole lot from 05:42:59.020 --> 05:43:03.660 what I've seen so if he could just you know, sharingam my Romans here, come in and just 05:43:03.660 --> 05:43:07.100 play them perfectly as well, I would actually just cry. 05:43:07.100 --> 05:43:13.820 So seeing that his opening here is looking a bit shaky, the man is human at least. 05:43:13.820 --> 05:43:18.820 Alright, that's how you get coming through. 05:43:18.820 --> 05:43:24.820 I'm seeing some words in the chat that this map is not fair or something for your thermal. 05:43:24.820 --> 05:43:27.820 I'm not sure if that's just a meme or you guys are thinking this map is not fair, 05:43:27.820 --> 05:43:30.820 but I've checked it and your thermal has all his resources. 05:43:30.820 --> 05:43:35.820 He just has some, you know, not the best woodlines, but this is not a map that should be restarted or anything like that. 05:43:35.820 --> 05:43:37.820 This is not anything out of the ordinary. 05:43:37.820 --> 05:43:41.820 Not sure if that's a meme or not, chat, but I will say that this is a completely fine map. 05:43:41.820 --> 05:43:44.940 map. I mean, Captain Lance has a bit better woodlands for the walls, but your throw wall is 05:43:44.940 --> 05:43:49.100 completely fine as well. Wait, is there anything that's falling off the wall? That is the thermal 05:43:49.100 --> 05:43:53.900 snapper's bad? Isn't it nice? That's what the chat... I'm looking at chat, that's kind of the vibe 05:43:53.900 --> 05:43:57.900 I was getting. I'm not really sure if they're just meaming or not, but yeah, it looks like a 05:43:57.900 --> 05:44:01.100 decent map as well. Like, easy walls towards the woodlands here. I mean, forward build's a 05:44:01.100 --> 05:44:06.380 bit nasty, but it's nothing out of the ordinary. It looks very vulnerable, though, but that's fine. 05:44:07.180 --> 05:44:11.020 He's making his map so much more so by putting everything downhill, 05:44:11.020 --> 05:44:13.260 every hill possible. Like he's aiming for it. 05:44:13.260 --> 05:44:15.180 Yeah, that's kind of true. 05:44:15.180 --> 05:44:17.420 There was not even a hill disadvantage there. 05:44:17.420 --> 05:44:20.220 Um, but no, but even still like, I like the kind of, 05:44:20.220 --> 05:44:21.980 okay, maybe a little bit further out, right? 05:44:21.980 --> 05:44:23.820 But I like the kind of wall he's going for, 05:44:23.820 --> 05:44:26.220 because it lets the focus only be on that forward goal, 05:44:26.220 --> 05:44:27.340 which is nasty. 05:44:27.340 --> 05:44:29.420 But at the same time, there's only one focal point, 05:44:29.420 --> 05:44:30.300 you can defend it. 05:44:30.300 --> 05:44:32.780 But anyway, so far, Camp Lance is just playing turtle style 05:44:32.780 --> 05:44:33.820 and just defending. 05:44:33.820 --> 05:44:35.580 That being said, men are on the move, 05:44:35.580 --> 05:44:37.900 and, uh, you know, it's not fully, fully walled here. 05:44:37.900 --> 05:44:40.140 In fact, an opening right here, berries are exposed. 05:44:40.140 --> 05:44:44.880 There's gonna be nasty. There's quite a few archers already though. Look at that little archer group on the left 05:44:44.880 --> 05:44:51.420 They could rally back and defend this if they need to but yeah, you know captain Lance is you know heading towards 05:44:52.220 --> 05:44:56.040 The economy needed for his castle edge timing, which is a fantastic timing for Romans 05:44:56.040 --> 05:44:58.700 I'm sure he didn't go early. Yeah, hyper aggressive 05:44:58.700 --> 05:45:03.540 But if he does get the armor up in the castle edge timing you become merely invincible in these guys 05:45:03.540 --> 05:45:10.380 Yeah, three-minute arms kind of looking around. We have the armor upgrade done. 05:45:10.380 --> 05:45:14.180 The thermal has chosen to attack with the archers, which is not a bad decision by the way. 05:45:14.180 --> 05:45:17.900 He just kind of waited at home, saw nothing come his way, and he's just moving out now, 05:45:17.900 --> 05:45:22.140 looking through harassing wood lines, maybe break the wall. But at the same time now, 05:45:22.140 --> 05:45:26.300 Captain Lance is here with four-minute arms. The thermal has walled up. Oh, 05:45:26.300 --> 05:45:28.300 Oh! Stag's the farm! Stag's the farm! 05:45:28.300 --> 05:45:30.300 Still the farm? 05:45:30.300 --> 05:45:32.300 I hate that mechanic right away. 05:45:32.300 --> 05:45:34.300 It's a great mechanic. 05:45:34.300 --> 05:45:38.300 It's a great mechanic. I will argue this with you and Mr. Singsing. It's a great mechanic. 05:45:38.300 --> 05:45:40.300 Why? Why? 05:45:40.300 --> 05:45:50.300 Because it promotes aggression. And if it wasn't the case, then you can just literally just drop a farm anywhere, and your opponent can't use that position, but you can't kill it, so that's bullshit as well. 05:45:50.300 --> 05:45:54.300 But it should just be like buildings, where there's nothing there until you actually place it. 05:45:54.300 --> 05:45:58.140 until you actually place the farm. I mean that's fair as well, but then like you can just randomly place the farm 05:45:58.860 --> 05:46:01.420 where your opponent wants to make a castle. I don't know it feels a bit strange. 05:46:01.980 --> 05:46:03.660 And then you kill the farm like normally. 05:46:05.420 --> 05:46:06.540 There's no fucking way dude. 05:46:09.900 --> 05:46:14.300 I used to watch all these these men at arm were struggling a bit running up. 05:46:16.140 --> 05:46:18.140 The entire woodline getting punished as well. 05:46:18.140 --> 05:46:20.380 Yeah the archers doing a lot of work over the woodline here. 05:46:20.380 --> 05:46:22.380 And 05:46:22.820 --> 05:46:28.680 PC I mean this is kind of fine though like Camelons gets some value from those men arms like forcing the garrison's actually decent 05:46:28.680 --> 05:46:30.980 Which is good. Yeah, I think see you kind of want that argument 05:46:30.980 --> 05:46:34.080 I'm not gonna lie, but the end of the day I'm way higher ill of the news. You're wrong, and I'm right 05:46:34.080 --> 05:46:36.080 It is what it is 05:46:37.580 --> 05:46:39.940 It's not a fair world. No, but actually you made some good points 05:46:39.940 --> 05:46:44.060 I'll get the devs on that soon and the pixie within two decades. Don't worry sing sing. They work fast 05:46:44.060 --> 05:46:52.420 I have a connecting question here. I used to watch a lot like quite a while ago back when you know Viper was dominating everything and so on like 05:46:52.420 --> 05:46:58.220 kinda old days. People used to scout with farms. That's the whole thing? The old photo war placing farms? 05:46:58.220 --> 05:47:03.420 That's not a thing. They fixed that. People used to scout with buildings. This is crazy. Let me go to the chat as well. 05:47:03.420 --> 05:47:05.900 There's not too much happening. Just archers harassing a wood line. 05:47:06.660 --> 05:47:10.860 Back in the day, if you look at your thermal position, you see how this is scouted? 05:47:10.860 --> 05:47:14.700 It's not like the black side of it scouted, but he doesn't have current vision here in the past 05:47:14.700 --> 05:47:17.500 You just use a farm or like a house or something that's very cheap 05:47:17.500 --> 05:47:20.960 And you just scan it you'd hover your your your mouse over this area 05:47:20.960 --> 05:47:25.740 And if it turns red and tells you that you can't build there that means your opponent has a building 05:47:25.740 --> 05:47:30.980 So you can just sit in your base hands on your nuts and just literally scan the entire map of the house 05:47:30.980 --> 05:47:35.700 And just see where your point has buildings and you see it's something red. Oh, he's forwarding me. I'm gonna attack this area 05:47:36.300 --> 05:47:38.300 Fantastic, but it's been passed out 05:47:38.300 --> 05:47:43.940 Oh no, look at the three archers forcing all the villagers to move again. They have to run across them 05:47:43.940 --> 05:47:49.520 I mean they're running up top, but that area is not fully safe yet. Yes, they're chasing the archers, but 05:47:50.220 --> 05:47:54.420 He's like he's like pushing the arches away just trying to get like some temporary wood access Captain Lance 05:47:54.420 --> 05:47:55.940 Just doesn't want to be too homeless 05:47:55.940 --> 05:48:00.940 But I mean he's losing some efficiency on the woodlands and whatnot like a lot of walking time and whatnot 05:48:01.100 --> 05:48:04.180 But Captain Lance is at the castle edge. It's not too bad 05:48:04.180 --> 05:48:08.900 I would say though advantage for you thermal for sure one minute 30 faster castle crossbow 05:48:08.900 --> 05:48:12.680 Botkin seems to be talking about how he likes to do this fast crossbow timing 05:48:12.680 --> 05:48:18.900 How do you stop this what do you do well listen you have a lot of options you can go for like 05:48:18.900 --> 05:48:23.420 three barracks like he's doing you can buy time with a tower or more walls and then push it back 05:48:23.420 --> 05:48:26.900 with long surge you can counter attack while defending with a tower you can go for a siege 05:48:26.900 --> 05:48:32.140 workshop at home we got a lot of options Balista man I would like some Balista here coming 05:48:32.140 --> 05:48:36.520 out this like if the opponent is going max crossbows and pressure new but it's 05:48:36.520 --> 05:48:40.680 definitely nice yeah scorpion and the Romans you get Romans Romans get 60% 05:48:40.680 --> 05:48:44.980 cheaper gold on those scorpions I think you need the tower on the gold 05:48:44.980 --> 05:48:47.900 honestly if these guys just go straight to the gold I'm surprised you 05:48:47.900 --> 05:48:51.580 thermals not going there but this gold is so exposed a lot of those villagers 05:48:51.580 --> 05:48:56.260 are weak too but I like that would like to see thermals cooking 05:48:56.260 --> 05:48:58.260 Yeah, same thing that he was doing. 05:48:58.260 --> 05:49:00.260 Are you fighting in different spots? 05:49:00.260 --> 05:49:02.260 An armor coming in. 05:49:02.260 --> 05:49:04.260 Yup. 05:49:04.260 --> 05:49:06.260 Longs defending as well. 05:49:06.260 --> 05:49:08.260 Hectic game. 05:49:08.260 --> 05:49:10.260 There's like five different fights going on at the same time. 05:49:10.260 --> 05:49:12.260 Yeah, they're all over the place. 05:49:12.260 --> 05:49:14.260 Some really random swordsman is running in. 05:49:14.260 --> 05:49:16.260 Yeah, swordsman is kind of looking for something. 05:49:16.260 --> 05:49:18.260 I don't know what they're looking for. 05:49:20.260 --> 05:49:22.260 Crossbows are still good though. 05:49:22.260 --> 05:49:24.260 Without these upgrades, crossbows destroy these by the way. 05:49:24.260 --> 05:49:27.300 These are feudal age units against castle age units, but the upgrades are coming in long 05:49:27.300 --> 05:49:28.980 stores within 10 seconds of armor. 05:49:28.980 --> 05:49:31.340 This armor also counts as double for Roman. 05:49:31.340 --> 05:49:35.740 So Roman longswords in castle age, super super tanky, and now Captain Lance is looking 05:49:35.740 --> 05:49:37.220 to expand to the town center. 05:49:37.220 --> 05:49:38.380 He needs a new woodline. 05:49:38.380 --> 05:49:40.740 His land is barren though, there's no woodline here. 05:49:40.740 --> 05:49:43.940 He might have to go to the front, which is actually kind of terrible. 05:49:43.940 --> 05:49:44.940 Yeah. 05:49:44.940 --> 05:49:45.940 Yeah. 05:49:45.940 --> 05:49:46.940 He's going there. 05:49:46.940 --> 05:49:51.940 At least that will give him some safe haven to start getting more resources. 05:49:51.940 --> 05:49:52.940 Yeah. 05:49:52.940 --> 05:49:56.940 Meanwhile, his swordsman cost a little bit of havoc, but not too much damage done. 05:49:57.940 --> 05:50:01.940 Yeah, Thermal's going for the Ballistics first, the University being dropped, and 1000 on the wood. 05:50:01.940 --> 05:50:05.940 I like this balanced approach, just 2 TCS, University at the back. 05:50:05.940 --> 05:50:11.940 Malians are fantastic at using their wood saving bonus to afford both Ballistics and an extra Townsender. 05:50:11.940 --> 05:50:15.940 On top of that, the Malians have Ballistics or a University that comes in 100% faster, I think. 05:50:15.940 --> 05:50:19.940 So, University techs for Malians are very quick to come by, 05:50:19.940 --> 05:50:24.940 So this Ballistic Blade is going to be a nice timing attack for your Thermal to put some pressure back on Captain Lance, 05:50:24.940 --> 05:50:26.940 not let him reclaim the map with the longswords. 05:50:30.940 --> 05:50:35.940 Is this Captain Lance's game to stress in Castle Age here? Do Malians get an advantage? 05:50:35.940 --> 05:50:39.940 Because typically I feel like the Romans, the Great and Feudal, they're even better in Castle, 05:50:39.940 --> 05:50:44.940 but I'm not sure how they scale towards late game against a Sib like Malians. 05:50:44.940 --> 05:50:48.400 Yeah, so the big thing with Romans is that they get a lot of power spikes. 05:50:48.400 --> 05:50:52.560 So the infantry now is very very strong in early castles, but as soon as you point out as a counter 05:50:52.560 --> 05:50:57.440 they kind of fall off again way to the next age. The problem is in imp, Romans kind of fall off a little bit. 05:50:57.440 --> 05:51:05.040 They have a great imp composition of legionaries, centurions, heavy scorpions, they have really strong units, but all of them super expensive, right? 05:51:05.280 --> 05:51:08.960 So they don't have anything to play for in terms of early imp, and that's the problem. 05:51:08.960 --> 05:51:10.960 So now the Romans want to secure a big boom, 05:51:10.960 --> 05:51:15.220 But how do you secure a big boom when your swordsmen are getting clapped by the crossbows? 05:51:15.220 --> 05:51:18.760 And that's the hard part for Catalanth right now. He might need to lead on some scorpions 05:51:19.480 --> 05:51:22.920 But the longswords are also by themselves. Just not doing a whole lot. I 05:51:23.840 --> 05:51:28.960 Think his eco got stressed a lot. He went for a triple Barracks plus now the triple TC production 05:51:28.960 --> 05:51:30.000 He only has 11 on food 05:51:30.000 --> 05:51:33.840 So this is gonna be really rough to try and sustain he doesn't the siege workshop 05:51:33.840 --> 05:51:38.360 So at least he can offload some of the production into these corpse who are gonna do amazing 05:51:38.360 --> 05:51:44.300 against the cross post. Yeah, scrupping really good counter here. Longships forced to run like 05:51:44.300 --> 05:51:48.020 he's got nothing. Uther was gonna do the kind of try and test that just splitting up the army. 05:51:48.020 --> 05:51:52.500 He's got great micro and good awareness. He can micro both sides pretty well. And this is gonna 05:51:52.500 --> 05:51:56.380 be a fantastic situation for Uther. I'm gonna just harass the villagers over the wood line. 05:51:56.380 --> 05:52:01.780 Oh, this wood line that he walked so far to try and get as well. Yeah, he's maybe 05:52:01.780 --> 05:52:08.020 stacking up for the scorpion coming out. Big shot. Some damage. But Uther was 05:52:08.020 --> 05:52:09.020 He's got a good micro here. 05:52:10.020 --> 05:52:11.020 Oh, yeah, he made sure of that. 05:52:11.020 --> 05:52:12.020 He made sure of that. 05:52:12.020 --> 05:52:13.020 Nice DPS. 05:52:13.020 --> 05:52:14.020 But again, one Scorpion, right? 05:52:14.020 --> 05:52:16.020 One Scorpion is not going to beat 10, 12 Crossbows here. 05:52:16.020 --> 05:52:19.020 He needs like two or three Scorpions, and then you can approach this and kind of clear 05:52:19.020 --> 05:52:20.020 it up easily. 05:52:20.020 --> 05:52:23.020 We're splitting up the army, and we've got him a found his way into the base of 05:52:23.020 --> 05:52:24.020 Captain Lance. 05:52:24.020 --> 05:52:25.020 Captain Lance, that's the hole. 05:52:25.020 --> 05:52:26.020 There's two villagers dropping. 05:52:26.020 --> 05:52:27.020 You can go to the woodland. 05:52:27.020 --> 05:52:29.020 You can win this game right here right now. 05:52:29.020 --> 05:52:31.020 This is fantastic for him. 05:52:32.020 --> 05:52:33.020 Great micro as well. 05:52:33.020 --> 05:52:36.020 He's trying to stay away from the Scorpions, meanwhile doing damage with the other 05:52:36.020 --> 05:52:37.020 units. 05:52:37.020 --> 05:52:43.360 At the same time a counter punch being thrown by Lance, but it's pretty hard to get in so many walls are up 05:52:44.240 --> 05:52:46.240 And it's trying to break onto this range 05:52:46.960 --> 05:52:52.320 And that longswords, but you're hitting a range is cross was behind. I don't think that push is gonna do too much 05:52:52.800 --> 05:52:54.960 That being said though Lance is depending with the scorpions 05:52:54.960 --> 05:52:57.880 Look at that three scorpions and now the cross was can't fight it. You can almost got a run 05:52:57.880 --> 05:53:00.600 But you know what has given me? Oh, this is crazy 05:53:02.080 --> 05:53:05.360 That's that's game, right? You can't come back from this that has to be game 05:53:05.360 --> 05:53:11.060 37 villagers only. There's no counter to these crossbows. Your thermals are so good with these crossbows. 05:53:11.060 --> 05:53:13.860 You remind me of Leery, actually. This is exactly Leery's style. 05:53:13.860 --> 05:53:18.700 You put pressure with crossbows, insane micro with a great 3TC boom behind it. 05:53:18.700 --> 05:53:26.020 It's a nice balance between economy, timing attack, and range micro, and your thermal has insane awareness with his army. 05:53:26.900 --> 05:53:30.420 Always just moving it back and forth, punishing every mistake in Catalanse. 05:53:30.420 --> 05:53:34.460 Scorps are looking for the main army trying to do something to them but they're so much 05:53:34.460 --> 05:53:39.220 faster as well just running away and at the same time splitting into these small groups 05:53:39.220 --> 05:53:40.940 never really fully stacking. 05:53:40.940 --> 05:53:41.940 Yep. 05:53:41.940 --> 05:53:46.420 This is maybe not the most cost effective trade though fighting into the Scorps and possibly 05:53:46.420 --> 05:53:47.420 a TC. 05:53:47.420 --> 05:53:51.660 I guess he'll wall then, yeah he couldn't leave, it was a high squad. 05:53:51.660 --> 05:53:54.860 By the way this is like really bad for your thermal, this is that I was praising 05:53:54.860 --> 05:53:58.500 his awareness he's kind of lost track of those archers outside and dude the Scorps 05:53:58.500 --> 05:54:03.100 at the back of cleared up the archers so now Kamalantz has a lot of momentum you 05:54:03.100 --> 05:54:06.920 thermal lost a lot of crossbows and a kept lance despite being like half the 05:54:06.920 --> 05:54:10.940 villagers the 30 villains behind he's got a lot of momentum to try to make 05:54:10.940 --> 05:54:15.700 something happen is it gonna be enough let's find out he's got a part like to 05:54:15.700 --> 05:54:20.100 it's saving up the stone like he's 500 stone so if you can get a castle to 05:54:20.100 --> 05:54:24.660 support the pressure but leading these units is so costly that there's no 05:54:24.660 --> 05:54:31.060 food frame and you cannot really support this starving bro I think this has been a huge problem 05:54:31.060 --> 05:54:36.180 for Catmilan she's got four on food right now okay like it's freezing the inner ring is empty man 05:54:36.180 --> 05:54:41.700 there's nothing to eat these farms are also just a graveyard they'll just go there and they die 05:54:41.700 --> 05:54:45.940 they don't want to go back dude this is the last push for Lance he's got no economy behind us 05:54:47.780 --> 05:54:51.540 maybe it's the long con you know the the bodies will make great fertilizer and the 05:54:51.540 --> 05:54:53.540 the farm should be extra efficient though. 05:54:53.540 --> 05:54:58.540 Yeah, I got that long term decomposition factor. 05:54:58.540 --> 05:55:01.540 Yeah, the compost straps. 05:55:01.540 --> 05:55:09.540 Even with these scorpions, I'm not really vibing with a push here from Lance because your thermal has insane micro 05:55:09.540 --> 05:55:11.540 and your thermal is also coming forward with the castle. 05:55:11.540 --> 05:55:13.540 Your thermal always goes forward with the castle. 05:55:13.540 --> 05:55:17.540 The villagers come carrying all kinds of gold and treasure and you just want that castle 05:55:17.540 --> 05:55:20.540 but maybe right now it's just at home is better. 05:55:20.540 --> 05:55:24.660 home beautiful hill control the two golds this is a great decision for your 05:55:24.660 --> 05:55:30.220 thermal just to not throw the game yeah and I think he has enough of his 05:55:30.220 --> 05:55:33.140 crossbows to hold this as well yes they're pretty tanky on these long 05:55:33.140 --> 05:55:36.340 swords but if you keep splitting into these small groups you run the risk of 05:55:36.340 --> 05:55:39.980 just bleeding and we've seen a lot of that the sort of attrition of the 05:55:39.980 --> 05:55:44.180 longswords he never reached a critical mass where you can just dive 05:55:44.180 --> 05:55:47.180 I got a night out too for the scorps now. 05:55:47.180 --> 05:55:49.180 Night out. 05:55:49.180 --> 05:55:51.180 Night out. 05:55:51.180 --> 05:55:53.180 You could kind of work him down, but it's only one night. 05:55:53.180 --> 05:55:55.180 Buying so much time to the costume. 05:55:55.180 --> 05:55:57.180 We can close the gap now. 05:55:57.180 --> 05:55:59.180 Great micro from Uthera wall. 05:55:59.180 --> 05:56:01.180 Just kind of bait the longsuits away and the scorpions. 05:56:01.180 --> 05:56:03.180 Yeah, they're firing, but they got nothing. 05:56:03.180 --> 05:56:05.180 Dude, this is pristine micro from Uthera wall. 05:56:05.180 --> 05:56:07.180 Continuous debate the night around. 05:56:07.180 --> 05:56:09.180 Look at this guy. He's cooking. 05:56:09.180 --> 05:56:11.180 This is absolutely insane. 05:56:11.180 --> 05:56:13.180 What an evenly matched fight. 05:56:13.180 --> 05:56:15.180 This is going to distance the series. 05:56:15.180 --> 05:56:17.180 For sure, Captain Lance. 05:56:17.180 --> 05:56:19.180 That's the problem right there. 05:56:19.180 --> 05:56:22.180 Oh, I love Captain Lance. There's one more arena in him. 05:56:22.180 --> 05:56:25.180 This is fantastic, because I want to see Uthermal push to the limits. 05:56:25.180 --> 05:56:27.180 I don't want to see Uthermal win another Arabian game. 05:56:27.180 --> 05:56:30.180 I want to see him try to win an arena game. 05:56:30.180 --> 05:56:33.180 That's going to be a tough test for him, though, but Captain Lance... 05:56:33.180 --> 05:56:36.180 I mean, he could just resign here. He doesn't need to, like, hard fight this game. 05:56:36.180 --> 05:56:38.180 He's got his home map behind this. 05:56:38.180 --> 05:56:42.180 Uthermal's actually the guy that's in trouble still, despite winning this game. 05:56:42.180 --> 05:56:48.040 Oh hold on that he's actually still trying though look at this. Hold on attempts 05:56:48.040 --> 05:56:52.260 What do we have here? Random treasures as well? Yeah some gold. 05:56:52.260 --> 05:56:55.860 Little carrying attributes. This guy's got some food killer family. 05:56:55.860 --> 05:57:03.820 Six food on her. Of course you spot the food villager. Bro. That's crazy 05:57:03.820 --> 05:57:08.220 what I got. You guys really think... Bro this is crazy. I'm just saying. 05:57:08.220 --> 05:57:12.740 She got 6 food, it's hardly anything, like that's not even a snack. 05:57:12.740 --> 05:57:15.620 I know, that's what I'm saying, I'm starting to fag. 05:57:15.620 --> 05:57:17.620 And you were on it like that. 05:57:17.620 --> 05:57:19.580 I just saw gold mines. 05:57:19.580 --> 05:57:23.540 Forward cast from both players, by the way, each of them is going forward cast, there's 05:57:23.540 --> 05:57:27.740 got a ton of army, meanwhile Capilat is taking the hill with a Hail Mary play, a forward 05:57:27.740 --> 05:57:30.940 cast from him, looking to just try to switch the tide of the game. 05:57:30.940 --> 05:57:33.740 I don't know what this is going to accomplish, but it's pretty good actually. 05:57:33.740 --> 05:57:34.740 It's pretty damn good. 05:57:34.740 --> 05:57:38.660 Yeah, I forgot to notice yet. 05:57:38.660 --> 05:57:40.160 You didn't even see it. 05:57:40.160 --> 05:57:41.160 Your thermo's locked in. 05:57:41.160 --> 05:57:42.160 Your thermo's locked in. 05:57:42.160 --> 05:57:43.160 Keep it out of webcast. 05:57:43.160 --> 05:57:45.060 That rock is protecting the villagers. 05:57:45.060 --> 05:57:47.060 Look at the terrain pathing. 05:57:47.060 --> 05:57:49.660 Yeah, those rocks are going to be annoying. 05:57:49.660 --> 05:57:52.700 Launchers killing some villagers, but the knights will go back, scroopings go down. 05:57:52.700 --> 05:57:56.980 The castle will go up here, your thermo is virtually completely won this game now. 05:57:56.980 --> 05:58:00.980 Catalan has considered a defensive castle, canceled it, had to buy the stone again, 05:58:00.980 --> 05:58:03.700 and he's going to do another defensive castle a little further back. 05:58:03.700 --> 05:58:08.200 So trying to make use of this forward castle, you thermal, still hasn't spotted it. 05:58:08.200 --> 05:58:12.680 Keep an eye on his webcam to see if he reacts to this. 05:58:12.680 --> 05:58:13.680 Another... 05:58:13.680 --> 05:58:14.680 I'm trying to go to the stone! 05:58:14.680 --> 05:58:15.680 I'm trying to go to the stone! 05:58:15.680 --> 05:58:16.680 Oh my, shameless! 05:58:16.680 --> 05:58:17.680 Look at this! 05:58:17.680 --> 05:58:18.680 Shameless! 05:58:18.680 --> 05:58:19.680 He doesn't see the town center! 05:58:19.680 --> 05:58:20.680 There's one stone! 05:58:20.680 --> 05:58:21.680 These are working condition things. 05:58:21.680 --> 05:58:22.680 These are proper working conditions. 05:58:22.680 --> 05:58:23.680 This is not funny. 05:58:23.680 --> 05:58:24.680 Guys, if you ever complain about your 9 to 5, just know that you're not going 05:58:24.680 --> 05:58:25.680 to get a job. 05:58:25.680 --> 05:58:26.680 I'm not going to get a job. 05:58:26.680 --> 05:58:27.680 I'm not going to get a job. 05:58:27.680 --> 05:58:28.680 I'm not going to get a job. 05:58:28.680 --> 05:58:29.680 I'm not going to get a job. 05:58:29.680 --> 05:58:30.680 I'm not going to get a job. 05:58:30.680 --> 05:58:31.680 I'm not going to get a job. 05:58:31.680 --> 05:58:38.180 Guys, if you ever complain about your 9-5, just know that Captain Lance has villagers whose job it is to mind stone under the enemy's town sitter. 05:58:38.180 --> 05:58:46.680 It's a very dangerous job, and not one that I'd recommend, but listen guys, you thermal, in a commanding position there's no army on the field for Lance. 05:58:46.680 --> 05:58:50.180 He's got zero military, he just has villagers working dangerous jobs. 05:58:50.180 --> 05:58:51.180 It's a GG! 05:58:51.180 --> 05:58:55.180 You thermal equalizes to the 2-2 fantastic game. Sick. 05:58:55.180 --> 05:59:04.300 That was a really impressive game play by e-thermal there, just held on early game. 05:59:04.300 --> 05:59:08.540 But I'm still feeling like Captain Man's, you know, he mustn't have played this match 05:59:08.540 --> 05:59:12.900 up too many times or like the Romans too many times because he went for the early investment 05:59:12.900 --> 05:59:15.140 but did not get the payoff they needed. 05:59:15.140 --> 05:59:20.180 I will say as well, like that shows the strengths and weaknesses of playing a bunch 05:59:20.180 --> 05:59:21.180 of different styles. 05:59:21.180 --> 05:59:24.300 So like Captain Man's unpredictable, he's got a wide variety of strategies that 05:59:24.300 --> 05:59:27.260 they can bring to the table, but we have a direct comparison. 05:59:27.260 --> 05:59:30.460 Like, Wagas Romans will play to a much higher level 05:59:30.460 --> 05:59:32.380 than what Captain Lance brought in this Romans game. 05:59:32.380 --> 05:59:33.700 He was late with his men of arms. 05:59:33.700 --> 05:59:36.500 He prioritized defense when he should have been off 05:59:36.500 --> 05:59:39.140 with the men of arms right away, attacking his opponents. 05:59:39.140 --> 05:59:41.340 He didn't have the best mid-game transitions. 05:59:41.340 --> 05:59:43.260 And it just didn't look like the Romans 05:59:43.260 --> 05:59:45.180 that were seeing dominating this event so far. 05:59:45.180 --> 05:59:47.060 So Props to Uthermal as well. 05:59:47.060 --> 05:59:49.500 Uthermal played a fantastic game, had good pressure, 05:59:49.500 --> 05:59:51.660 had a good strategy and good transitions. 05:59:51.660 --> 05:59:55.620 really nothing we're missing from the thermal in this game and he earns the 05:59:55.620 --> 06:00:00.280 win but Tamlans got the home epic now and that's a big deal to take us back to 06:00:00.280 --> 06:00:05.820 arena it's arena it's arena again it's gonna it's gonna be arena for sure cuz 06:00:05.820 --> 06:00:10.960 arena is really fun when you're not playing it it's actually very fun to 06:00:10.960 --> 06:00:14.240 watch cuz you know that there will be you know somebody's gonna be surprised 06:00:14.240 --> 06:00:17.640 and there will be some crazy stuff happening you don't know who you don't 06:00:17.640 --> 06:00:22.920 where it's always some bullshit I'm gonna go and say that I hated to read in the 06:00:22.920 --> 06:00:26.320 past but with more understanding of the map I actually really like it I think 06:00:26.320 --> 06:00:30.840 it's quite fun it has some BS elements to it so I can understand what you guys 06:00:30.840 --> 06:00:34.480 are saying but I think the more you play it the more fun it is actually 06:00:34.480 --> 06:00:40.280 which helps in the timings like the up timings you can kind of tell like when 06:00:40.280 --> 06:00:44.040 someone's up at 19 or 23 or whatever yeah it tells a lot in these kind of 06:00:44.040 --> 06:00:46.400 maps but yeah when you don't know anything it's going to get a car 06:00:46.400 --> 06:00:53.640 fuck castle drop fuck mongsy again socks date which non naval map would you say 06:00:53.640 --> 06:00:59.240 it's the most complicated to play era like no ocean map yeah it was the 06:00:59.240 --> 06:01:05.240 hardest map to play or like most you know most complex to process when you 06:01:05.240 --> 06:01:13.800 play it I would say it's a good one where there's nothing for nothing yeah 06:01:13.800 --> 06:01:15.800 Actually, that map is pretty hard. 06:01:17.800 --> 06:01:19.800 Let me think, let me think, that's a good one. 06:01:19.800 --> 06:01:21.800 Affarin 3 has water to be fair. 06:01:22.800 --> 06:01:26.800 I think probably some kind of tournament map that we've never seen before, actually. 06:01:26.800 --> 06:01:29.800 Probably some tournament map we've never seen before is really hard. 06:01:29.800 --> 06:01:31.800 I can't really think of what I thought about. 06:01:31.800 --> 06:01:33.800 If I think of like a standard map, 06:01:36.800 --> 06:01:39.800 maybe something like Golden Pit is actually quite hard to play, 06:01:39.800 --> 06:01:43.240 hard to play because Golden Pip is not like, there's a lot of gold in the center but it's 06:01:43.240 --> 06:01:47.360 downhill so you can't just rush into it right away like you can in gold rush that has the 06:01:47.360 --> 06:01:51.080 gold on a hill. So I would say something like golden hill is really hard to play in my 06:01:51.080 --> 06:01:54.760 opinion. Yeah. That's probably the hardest. 06:01:54.760 --> 06:01:58.940 Pip sounds nicer because then there's at least a downside to going in there and 06:01:58.940 --> 06:02:01.600 taking it right? If it's already a hill it's nice to hold it. 06:02:09.800 --> 06:02:11.800 Did the squirt go down? 06:02:18.800 --> 06:02:20.800 Alright, should end for the next game. 06:02:27.800 --> 06:02:30.800 Sorry, I was just doing some admin work. 06:02:30.800 --> 06:02:40.100 Oh man this is sweaty for both the players now though. 06:02:40.100 --> 06:02:44.520 They both know what the other is capable of and now it comes down to just one game. 06:02:44.520 --> 06:02:46.880 It's the battle of these two glorious beards. 06:02:46.880 --> 06:02:50.080 So the front comes down to the lower bracket. 06:02:50.080 --> 06:02:51.720 They both had a little break. 06:02:51.720 --> 06:02:54.160 Also is Captain Lance playing like in the silent room? 06:02:54.160 --> 06:02:56.280 Why is everything so white and grey in his room? 06:02:56.280 --> 06:02:57.760 What's going on there? 06:02:57.760 --> 06:03:00.760 You almost got like a backdrop, but damn, you turn them all... 06:03:00.760 --> 06:03:05.760 Sorry, I can't land with no window, everything's white, like... 06:03:05.760 --> 06:03:09.760 So you can focus, lock in, no distractions. You can't look at anything. 06:03:09.760 --> 06:03:11.760 No motivational poster, it's just a wall. 06:03:11.760 --> 06:03:14.760 That's the average Path of Exile player, by the way. 06:03:14.760 --> 06:03:18.760 Just sitting at a freaking mental asylum playing the game 12 hours straight. 06:03:18.760 --> 06:03:20.760 Log in. 06:03:20.760 --> 06:03:23.760 Guys, you'll want to talk, yeah, but my room is not like a bedsheet. 06:03:23.760 --> 06:03:28.000 bedsheet. This is like, I have a beautiful view from a nice apartment. This is like, 06:03:28.000 --> 06:03:36.440 I have a good space here. Just you guys obviously see this, but yeah. Wait, what's this login? 06:03:36.440 --> 06:03:45.160 Login? There's Pee Weed. It always drags you back in as login. Yeah. I think he played 06:03:45.160 --> 06:03:52.880 it quite a bit. All right, hop in in here. No drop. Excellent stuff, guys. Hop in 06:03:52.880 --> 06:03:58.920 right into the last and final game here between Captain Lance and Uthermal 2-2 on the score. 06:03:58.920 --> 06:04:01.240 It's the first set of the best of fives that has won the distance. 06:04:01.240 --> 06:04:04.480 Of course, earlier we had Sing Sing Waga, 3-1 for Waga. 06:04:04.480 --> 06:04:08.240 Here we have 2-2 on Arena, the home map of Captain Lance and Sing Sing talking to this 06:04:08.240 --> 06:04:09.240 Inca pick. 06:04:09.240 --> 06:04:13.760 We see the Uthermal going Bohemians and Uthermal wants to see the texture here. 06:04:13.760 --> 06:04:14.760 He doesn't know what the Incas. 06:04:14.760 --> 06:04:16.800 A little bit of applause to check that out. 06:04:16.800 --> 06:04:20.000 But Sing Sing, what about this Incas is very appealing on Arena? 06:04:20.000 --> 06:04:21.000 Tell me. 06:04:21.000 --> 06:04:26.420 I have no idea dudes. I played Inka on Arabia and I didn't even win that much with it 06:04:26.420 --> 06:04:30.580 I lost almost every fucking game. In fact, I lost like my last six out of eight or something 06:04:30.940 --> 06:04:34.300 What the fuck is good about this if you tell me about the pro here? 06:04:34.580 --> 06:04:38.100 Yeah, let me let me take a swing. Let me take a swing. I got this one coach. 06:04:38.100 --> 06:04:39.600 Why are you going for it? 06:04:39.600 --> 06:04:41.260 Hear me out here. Hear me out. 06:04:41.260 --> 06:04:46.300 Actually, they might be good on arena because they have this bonus when they go later in the ages, right? 06:04:46.300 --> 06:04:49.940 Where stuff becomes cheaper and cheaper. They filter unit cost reduction 06:04:49.940 --> 06:04:55.700 So if you do make it to castle or even imperial age you get up to like a 30% cost reduction for your units 06:04:55.700 --> 06:05:00.140 So you could make like really big armies for cheap and maybe win a war of attrition more easily 06:05:00.820 --> 06:05:02.820 Well, is that the way you place? 06:05:02.820 --> 06:05:04.320 Yeah 06:05:04.320 --> 06:05:06.980 Captain Lance, it's like some bullshit coming out, right? 06:05:08.480 --> 06:05:12.620 Yeah, I don't say that like Captain Lance has not played an honest to God boom game 06:05:12.620 --> 06:05:17.540 It's always like some fast imp some forward castle some bullshit as since he was saying 06:05:17.540 --> 06:05:21.620 I don't know if we're gonna see this like boom into late game spam 06:05:21.620 --> 06:05:27.420 We could see it and honestly you're totally right waga in case having cheaper units like halb scrum spam all day 06:05:27.420 --> 06:05:30.380 I will say though. I don't know if you want to boomers bohemians 06:05:30.380 --> 06:05:33.980 Let's talk about bohemians first one of the best civilizations on on arena 06:05:33.980 --> 06:05:39.740 I consider it the number one pick in pro meta at least it has a fantastic late games got good economy 06:05:39.740 --> 06:05:43.240 It has good options as far as pushing in the early and mid game 06:05:43.240 --> 06:05:50.520 And it can do so many different strategies that are all equally as powerful and so the Bohemians are a very very powerful threat on arena 06:05:51.000 --> 06:05:54.460 Incase I'm not really sure how that can match up against the Bohemians 06:05:54.460 --> 06:05:58.080 I really don't see any option that stands out as oh, this is really good 06:05:58.400 --> 06:06:02.680 But I think a tower rush could actually be the way to open up the game for Captain Lance 06:06:03.720 --> 06:06:08.400 That's true actually I looked through a tech tree here and I can confirm this it's gonna be some bullshit coming in again 06:06:08.400 --> 06:06:11.720 There's no way you go late game against the Bohemians, right? Yeah, they have everything 06:06:11.720 --> 06:06:17.720 What do you have as bullshit options I think us because I don't say anything except for like priests maybe you can get 06:06:17.720 --> 06:06:20.920 Good priests in this you get no, but the priests are better for behemoths 06:06:20.920 --> 06:06:23.480 I think if we're talking about some kind of cheese some kind of rush 06:06:23.480 --> 06:06:27.080 I think a tower rush with cheaper towers is legit. That's pretty solid 06:06:27.080 --> 06:06:34.360 I think maybe a forward castle what you get on a discount is also decent the Camayook Camayook Ram could be very solid 06:06:34.360 --> 06:06:36.740 They have an infantry unique unit called the Camayook 06:06:36.740 --> 06:06:39.880 We'll talk more about that later, but it is an option if it goes for it 06:06:39.880 --> 06:06:42.120 I will talk about why that could be a strong option 06:06:42.760 --> 06:06:49.440 You also get nice economy with the settlements of the settlements is going to be gathering wood and gold from one building 06:06:49.440 --> 06:06:55.440 This is the new DLC or it's not a DLC said but it's a new patch for Incas given an access to the settlement 06:06:55.440 --> 06:06:57.520 So those guys are quite strong for the early game economy 06:06:58.560 --> 06:07:00.840 You have some off you got a nice settlement too, right? 06:07:00.880 --> 06:07:05.640 You got the wood mine with the gold so that this is like very snug this wall in there 06:07:05.640 --> 06:07:07.640 You won't have to replace this anytime soon 06:07:07.640 --> 06:07:13.200 Yeah, and like it's kind of it's kind of a little lucky because sometimes like for example if you take a look at okay 06:07:13.200 --> 06:07:17.520 I think you throw most base. There's a decent settlement here, but it's not a great settlement 06:07:17.840 --> 06:07:20.500 Same thing here decent one on like wooden gold. That's not great 06:07:20.600 --> 06:07:25.000 Here you got the lucky like in middle of the wood line and middle of the gold with a settlement 06:07:25.000 --> 06:07:29.500 That's a very very good settlement very very fortunate for Captain Lanster not a huge deal 06:07:29.500 --> 06:07:31.500 But it is nice for his early game economy 06:07:31.500 --> 06:07:38.500 except for the berries, they don't get anything 06:07:38.500 --> 06:07:41.500 yeah berries has gotten nothing close unfortunately for himself 06:07:41.500 --> 06:07:46.500 just talking about the regular dark age stuff 06:07:46.500 --> 06:07:48.500 two head ogre, thank you the five gifted subs 06:07:48.500 --> 06:07:50.500 also phantomast, thanks to the five gifted and rod 06:07:50.500 --> 06:07:52.500 thank you the five gifted earlier 06:07:52.500 --> 06:07:54.500 appreciate the subs and support for the tournament guys 06:07:54.500 --> 06:07:56.500 a little bit of a double dealer actually if we be thermal 06:07:56.500 --> 06:07:58.500 you don't need to commit to that right now 06:07:58.500 --> 06:08:00.500 you can just learn one gear at a time 06:08:00.500 --> 06:08:08.940 Getting the food so far it's kind of hard to read if either player wants to do something like too specific for me 06:08:08.940 --> 06:08:11.800 This all looks just like the standard opening that you do 06:08:16.220 --> 06:08:21.560 All right, if thermal here is just going about the regular opening learning and some deer 06:08:22.220 --> 06:08:26.260 Chillin about and nothing strange coming out of a thermal. I think strange comes out of Captain Lance 06:08:26.260 --> 06:08:28.260 We're kind of almost expecting him to do something strange 06:08:28.260 --> 06:08:32.780 It's not going to be a tower rush, I think we're already past that time. I think tower rush will not happen 06:08:34.780 --> 06:08:39.620 He's keeping the llama alive. It's the leader leader of the herd in the back there 06:08:40.300 --> 06:08:44.140 But yeah, we're not seeing any rock maxing. There's no chicken and where is this? 06:08:44.500 --> 06:08:47.160 Where is this boy going? How you just know it? 06:08:48.380 --> 06:08:51.960 That that's so sauce the moment you see one guy with a pickaxe walk towards the stone 06:08:53.340 --> 06:08:57.500 Yeah, he's gonna go the stone. I think maybe a four castle again. We'll talk a bit more about that 06:08:57.500 --> 06:09:01.940 So let me just go ahead and fix the cameras here for us. 06:09:01.940 --> 06:09:04.220 Yeah, I mean, most likely it feels 06:09:04.220 --> 06:09:07.180 like the castle drop is interesting 06:09:07.180 --> 06:09:10.620 because I haven't seen the Inca unique units in any game 06:09:10.620 --> 06:09:12.180 that I've played, I think. 06:09:12.180 --> 06:09:14.180 It does seem quite cool, though. 06:09:14.180 --> 06:09:16.980 It's an increased attack range infantry unit. 06:09:16.980 --> 06:09:20.500 So having that extra range can maybe 06:09:20.500 --> 06:09:22.860 allow them to be really nasty in rams. 06:09:22.860 --> 06:09:25.260 Like you said earlier, you can hop out and be 06:09:25.260 --> 06:09:26.180 able to slam stuff. 06:09:26.180 --> 06:09:30.500 They do get access to seed tramps as well in late game as I see if they do hit imp 06:09:30.500 --> 06:09:34.920 You get the and see Trump is so much better than the capital or battering round 06:09:35.340 --> 06:09:40.580 Yes, Incas here with the castle drop strategy. It's gonna be cameo ukes 06:09:41.160 --> 06:09:46.000 For captain lance cameo uke is a unique unit that has that one extra range kind of like a step lancer 06:09:46.000 --> 06:09:50.300 So you attack you can restack that unit up with that one extra range feeling massive DPS 06:09:50.300 --> 06:09:53.380 It's quite cheap and easy to spam as well and captain lance 06:09:53.380 --> 06:09:57.900 is likely to go for a forward castle again the same way he did in the last game. 06:09:57.900 --> 06:10:02.220 I wonder if you thermal though after seeing that last game on arena with the Malay 06:10:02.220 --> 06:10:07.220 I wonder if he's expecting the forward castle and if he's gonna have a better preparation against it last time 06:10:07.220 --> 06:10:12.220 He seems a little clueless as far as how to defend it. Let's see if this time he's gonna be a little bit more prepared 06:10:12.860 --> 06:10:18.480 So far no, you know adaptations nothing out of the ordinary besides maybe a double lumber camp instead of one 06:10:18.480 --> 06:10:20.480 But that's not really a huge deal 06:10:20.480 --> 06:10:30.480 I do hope that he, you know, maybe makes a play to control the relics or, you know, be on the field a bit more because what we saw earlier was him conceding a lot of the mid control. 06:10:30.480 --> 06:10:42.480 And then he got caught by surprise. So we'll see how it goes. I feel like that's always the perhaps most tragic situation to be in in a competitive game of a we like this is where you're just underprepared. 06:10:42.480 --> 06:10:48.000 the military don't have the production buildings I never feel as bad if I miss micro or if I screw up 06:10:48.000 --> 06:10:52.720 my own build order you know that's on me but if I just don't have anything I feel like I didn't even 06:10:52.720 --> 06:10:57.840 play yeah absolutely and that's the big part about this tournament as well like we put in a bunch of 06:10:57.840 --> 06:11:02.000 streamers with no preparation you're like three weeks to try to come up with as much as you 06:11:02.000 --> 06:11:06.240 can and your thermal here uh I think a little clue this is in case you have to read the 06:11:06.240 --> 06:11:09.920 tech tree not quite sure what is the point it could go for not quite sure what the options are 06:11:09.920 --> 06:11:13.160 So it's my makes it really interesting boom was coming in Omega loom 06:11:13.600 --> 06:11:17.660 Not gonna be the case here for Captain Lance at least and he's gonna be preparing for that forward castle 06:11:17.880 --> 06:11:22.120 Sinsing what do you make of the situation for castle main cause exciting strategy? I 06:11:23.560 --> 06:11:27.080 Don't know. I'm not sure what you're supposed to get out of this as ink us 06:11:27.680 --> 06:11:28.880 like 06:11:28.880 --> 06:11:34.920 The unique unit is not bad. Good. It's it's like little arches or something. Yeah. Yeah 06:11:34.920 --> 06:11:40.080 I just really see like something that's very specific to Inca that ties this 06:11:40.080 --> 06:11:44.120 together. Yeah I actually agree with you by the way I think Inca's is just like a 06:11:44.120 --> 06:11:49.480 decent stuff to do this. I don't think the cameo is like an S tier infantry 06:11:49.480 --> 06:11:53.120 unit. I think like even the Japanese do it better with the samurai. I think if 06:11:53.120 --> 06:11:56.640 anything maybe it's a surprise factor that Captain Lance wanted. If you went 06:11:56.640 --> 06:11:59.520 for Japanese you feel almost already thinking okay we've seen the samurai 06:11:59.520 --> 06:12:02.880 whereas the Inca's is just something that's not been seen before. Hold on 06:12:02.880 --> 06:12:10.080 going a little early here yeah he's does one and a half minute on this just 06:12:10.080 --> 06:12:12.840 don't take that long to get across but just give him a little bit of time to 06:12:12.840 --> 06:12:17.440 maybe plop down some you know production maybe you'll get a siege workshop coming 06:12:17.440 --> 06:12:22.280 in as well quickly when we do go into the castle now by the way there's 06:12:22.280 --> 06:12:25.920 something that is worth noting about Incas this infantry upgrade will help in 06:12:25.920 --> 06:12:29.560 castlage for his villagers so it doesn't help right now but Incas have 06:12:29.560 --> 06:12:33.920 a bonus that in Castle Age the infantry armor upgrades affect their villagers. 06:12:33.920 --> 06:12:41.560 So Captain Luntz going forward with that armor early, that's a decisive idea or like a intentional 06:12:41.560 --> 06:12:44.640 idea to have that extra armor affect the villagers. 06:12:44.640 --> 06:12:47.560 Very very useful in the fights against the scouts in the early game. 06:12:47.560 --> 06:12:51.480 So keep that in mind as you see a forward settlement as well. 06:12:51.480 --> 06:12:52.480 Okay. 06:12:52.480 --> 06:12:56.200 He's going for the efficiency settlement, getting the stone and the gold here. 06:12:56.200 --> 06:12:59.400 It's too good to pass up on, it's a melee cantor assist. 06:13:00.240 --> 06:13:08.640 The middle of the golden stone settlement, they say take a little gold while waiting for the castle. Castle drop right away, beautiful timing, holy. 06:13:09.140 --> 06:13:20.540 And your thermal has the scouts, is it enough to stop it though? Doesn't kill the champion, brings the scouts back? But look at that, wall off from Captain Lance, he knows what he's doing, and the scouts from your thermal are going to be completely useless, wow. 06:13:20.540 --> 06:13:27.540 That's costy as well. Now he did commit for the scouts, but still didn't catch the villagers coming in. 06:13:27.540 --> 06:13:31.540 So now you just feel like you're down that little bit of extra food. 06:13:31.540 --> 06:13:36.540 By the time he is clicked, so 40 seconds he will have his own castle timing. 06:13:36.540 --> 06:13:40.540 Problem is, he doesn't have any stone to just plop down a defensive castle. 06:13:40.540 --> 06:13:44.540 So she really should be looking towards what? The siege workshop to defend this? 06:13:44.540 --> 06:13:46.540 Yeah, I think you need to go for a siege workshop. 06:13:46.540 --> 06:13:50.700 right away. Walls, he's workshop behind. Don't let the rams come through. Don't let 06:13:50.700 --> 06:13:53.740 that second castle come in because this castle will break the walls, but it 06:13:53.740 --> 06:13:56.500 doesn't kill you. It's the second castle that kills you. It's the fast temple that 06:13:56.500 --> 06:14:00.260 kills you. So you got the scouts. You can prevent your opponent from taking the 06:14:00.260 --> 06:14:03.700 relics. These scouts are not useless. Don't think that, okay, you thermal made 06:14:03.700 --> 06:14:06.380 the investment to scouts. You can't use them. You can still use them to 06:14:06.380 --> 06:14:09.760 deny the relics, which is of course some of the captain lines is going for 06:14:09.760 --> 06:14:13.780 right now. It could be a nice help and the thermal add in a town center 06:14:13.780 --> 06:14:17.820 right away. Remember, this castle forward is a big investment. So your thermals got more 06:14:17.820 --> 06:14:21.100 risk collected and didn't have to commit to that castle. He's in a good position. Should 06:14:21.100 --> 06:14:22.900 he not take too much damage? 06:14:22.900 --> 06:14:28.300 Yeah, he's staying calm and collected, not stressing the siege workshop that hard. Maybe, 06:14:28.300 --> 06:14:31.580 you know, like I would want one as soon as possible. But he's saying he has time to 06:14:31.580 --> 06:14:35.740 get this TC down and doubling his villager production is a good way to make sure that 06:14:35.740 --> 06:14:40.340 he doesn't, that he hasn't out basically in this game. 06:14:40.340 --> 06:14:44.340 Yeah, Kamiyuk's on the field, breaking through this wall. 06:14:44.340 --> 06:14:51.340 Wait, I take it back. Maybe this is the slot. Instead of having Spearman, you're fucking Kamiyuk with monks, so they can just snipe them with Cav. 06:14:51.340 --> 06:14:58.340 Yeah, they're very good. Like, Cav will not work. But keep in mind, Cav is not the counter to this anyway. We need to see his workshop. 06:14:58.340 --> 06:15:04.340 He said try for an archery range in the workshop. Okay, workshop is the key, the secret to this puzzle. 06:15:04.340 --> 06:15:08.580 Can we be quite strong here? With that extra range they can stack up on walls to hide DPS 06:15:12.420 --> 06:15:13.460 Stabbing across the wall 06:15:13.460 --> 06:15:17.220 Wow! Captain Ladd with the knowledge! 06:15:17.860 --> 06:15:18.820 That's insane! 06:15:18.820 --> 06:15:20.340 You can't repair it, you have to... 06:15:20.340 --> 06:15:21.540 Attack the wall exactly 06:15:22.260 --> 06:15:23.460 This one is a S.I.V.E. 06:15:24.740 --> 06:15:27.220 It's the S.I.V.E. It counters the sticks in the middle 06:15:28.260 --> 06:15:31.300 Cross with defense from the thermal, not going for the Henkin and N.E.R. 06:15:31.300 --> 06:15:33.700 that you do have access to in castage of the Bohemians 06:15:33.700 --> 06:15:36.780 Of course, that would require chemistry, maybe he decided not to wait for it. 06:15:36.780 --> 06:15:39.920 Or maybe he just doesn't know his sift too well, but either way, Ythron was on a very 06:15:39.920 --> 06:15:40.920 back foot. 06:15:40.920 --> 06:15:43.940 People considered him the second best player of the tournament, but Captain Lance is showing 06:15:43.940 --> 06:15:44.940 his quality. 06:15:44.940 --> 06:15:48.060 The second castle forward, it's the same strategy we saw last game. 06:15:48.060 --> 06:15:52.100 Captain Lance with the repeat, this time with Inca's forward castle here. 06:15:52.100 --> 06:15:53.100 And Ythron will... 06:15:53.100 --> 06:15:54.100 What did we learn? 06:15:54.100 --> 06:15:55.100 The Magnus late. 06:15:55.100 --> 06:15:58.260 Swagger, you did talk about a TC first, Siege workshop was late. 06:15:58.260 --> 06:16:02.740 This could be the reason why he loses again, the late workshop. 06:16:02.740 --> 06:16:06.980 a little bit closer this time than last time I think though last game we were in the same 06:16:06.980 --> 06:16:11.620 spot actually or last arena game but oh I think his manganese can be too late right villagers 06:16:11.620 --> 06:16:18.180 get out of the way you're blocking yesterday he can reach it but last time he pushed it out 06:16:18.180 --> 06:16:21.380 last time he pushed it out you need to go for the villagers there we go nice little hit there 06:16:21.380 --> 06:16:24.820 on the camp you throw them whose boss but now the villagers are giving me the target you can 06:16:24.820 --> 06:16:29.140 go close here you can go close you still got time it's a 76 oh yeah he's deleting this time 06:16:29.140 --> 06:16:30.020 He's deleting? 06:16:30.020 --> 06:16:31.140 They're splitting though. 06:16:31.140 --> 06:16:32.580 He can kill all of them. 06:16:32.580 --> 06:16:33.780 He's gonna split them out. 06:16:35.220 --> 06:16:36.500 Oh wow. 06:16:36.500 --> 06:16:38.580 That's crazy. 06:16:38.580 --> 06:16:41.220 Dude, Lance is a freaking beast, bro. 06:16:41.220 --> 06:16:43.620 Just thought it was the magnet that makes it look easy. 06:16:43.620 --> 06:16:46.740 You thermal kill another vill, but now there's actually a hole. 06:16:46.740 --> 06:16:48.900 There's a hole, there's a hole, there's a hole. 06:16:49.780 --> 06:16:52.100 Oh, he could just garrison them to help out. 06:16:52.100 --> 06:16:53.140 Yeah, if he wants to. 06:16:53.140 --> 06:16:54.660 We're not sure if he realizes, but... 06:16:54.660 --> 06:16:55.940 Yeah, probably doesn't see it. 06:16:55.940 --> 06:16:59.660 I mean, taking down a production building also feels good. 06:16:59.660 --> 06:17:01.340 He can also open the Palisade very easily. 06:17:01.340 --> 06:17:02.840 Scott's in the back? 06:17:02.840 --> 06:17:03.680 Well, snap him off. 06:17:03.680 --> 06:17:06.140 Dude, you have to be pretty happy about that for your thermal. 06:17:06.140 --> 06:17:07.480 Listen, he's still 10 villagers, by the way. 06:17:07.480 --> 06:17:08.620 This game is not over. 06:17:08.620 --> 06:17:09.740 Your thermal's got the lead. 06:17:09.740 --> 06:17:11.020 It's just Camuyuk. 06:17:11.020 --> 06:17:12.660 It's an infantry unit. 06:17:12.660 --> 06:17:13.540 Let's simplify the game. 06:17:13.540 --> 06:17:14.620 It's an infantry unit. 06:17:14.620 --> 06:17:15.340 We have our walls. 06:17:15.340 --> 06:17:16.460 You have our crossbows. 06:17:16.460 --> 06:17:18.220 In theory here, your thermal wins. 06:17:18.220 --> 06:17:19.540 Hey, you're so good. 06:17:19.540 --> 06:17:20.020 We don't have loom. 06:17:20.020 --> 06:17:20.540 We don't have loom. 06:17:20.540 --> 06:17:21.580 We don't have loom. 06:17:21.580 --> 06:17:23.020 Oh, my freaking god. 06:17:23.020 --> 06:17:23.860 We don't have loom. 06:17:23.860 --> 06:17:24.980 The Camuyuks are coming in. 06:17:24.980 --> 06:17:27.300 There's no loom. Omega loom. 06:17:28.900 --> 06:17:31.220 Villager goes down. There was no time to get loom. 06:17:31.620 --> 06:17:33.100 There was no time to get loom. 06:17:33.420 --> 06:17:35.340 What do you mean wow, there's no time to get loom? 06:17:35.500 --> 06:17:37.100 You're about to make me mad, bro. 06:17:40.020 --> 06:17:41.900 That's crazy. Losing so many villagers. 06:17:41.900 --> 06:17:43.340 Look at the villager dying in four shots. 06:17:43.900 --> 06:17:46.900 How many hits would it be for a Kamiya to kill the villager with loom? 06:17:46.900 --> 06:17:48.220 It's four hits without. 06:17:48.340 --> 06:17:50.340 It's double because they have armor and extra. 06:17:50.540 --> 06:17:51.540 Yeah, it's eight hits. 06:17:51.540 --> 06:17:54.780 So he lose like half the villager he lost and you'd have more time to pull them back. 06:17:54.980 --> 06:17:59.740 It's a crazy upgrade. Oh quick wall quick wall. You need this quick wall 06:18:00.300 --> 06:18:02.300 You can get some nice shots 06:18:05.780 --> 06:18:07.780 He killed his own magnet 06:18:14.660 --> 06:18:17.580 There's no garrison you did get one nice shot though 06:18:17.580 --> 06:18:24.100 It's not bad. He loses the three Magnos, which is horrible, but he will kill the cameos here actual cinema gameplay 06:18:24.100 --> 06:18:26.860 It's not terrible. It's horrible, but it's not terrible 06:18:30.620 --> 06:18:37.100 Hey, he cleans it out. He's still producing he's got the military production coming in good micro and good micro 06:18:37.100 --> 06:18:40.660 This is still fine. He's up 12 bills, dude. Honestly, it's not even that bad 06:18:40.660 --> 06:18:45.060 But captain Lance might just cheese the fast in behind us. He might just use the fast 06:18:48.660 --> 06:18:53.700 Maybe another castle he's gonna castle keep on them. Yeah, it's gonna be easy this time though next time 06:18:54.100 --> 06:18:58.260 Yeah, like something like here, maybe even here to deny the gold? 06:18:58.260 --> 06:19:02.660 Oh, oh, oh, oh, he wants it, he wants it, he wants it, he wants it, he wants it, he wants it. 06:19:02.660 --> 06:19:04.260 He wants to grab it. 06:19:04.260 --> 06:19:05.100 Holy. 06:19:05.100 --> 06:19:06.260 He's almost got a lot of rest left. 06:19:06.260 --> 06:19:07.860 This is what we did in the previous Arena game too. 06:19:07.860 --> 06:19:12.660 He forced basically Thermal to be the one making the progressive move, you know? 06:19:12.660 --> 06:19:12.860 Yeah. 06:19:12.860 --> 06:19:17.620 If you go for Imp, then you Thermal has to attack somehow, and that's not easy to do from this position. 06:19:17.620 --> 06:19:19.700 The thing is, he's almost played against us before. 06:19:19.700 --> 06:19:24.020 He knows imp could be coming and he knows what he needs to do 06:19:24.540 --> 06:19:29.860 Overall, which is to give up space boom towards the back when we saw last game and then try to defend somehow 06:19:30.020 --> 06:19:34.300 It's easier said than done though. Just to get close to the manual castles there to defend 06:19:35.220 --> 06:19:37.940 I don't know. So you can't tell the stables 06:19:38.300 --> 06:19:42.340 You but yeah, I held the table the stables of course, but actually we don't have that much space back here 06:19:42.340 --> 06:19:45.340 Maybe just go outside honestly to eat some walls go outside 06:19:49.700 --> 06:19:53.380 He's staying active though, those crossbows are getting out there realizing there's not 06:19:53.380 --> 06:19:55.860 too much to do at home, so I like this move. 06:19:55.860 --> 06:19:58.980 He's trying to find out whatever he can on the back of this. 06:19:58.980 --> 06:20:01.700 Maybe he can snipe a monk going for a relic pick or something. 06:20:01.700 --> 06:20:03.420 Yeah, something like that could be interesting. 06:20:03.420 --> 06:20:06.820 There's one more monk, one more relic to be brought back in. 06:20:06.820 --> 06:20:08.540 Four relics are already in here. 06:20:08.540 --> 06:20:11.140 By the way, there's some really insane games on YouTube. 06:20:11.140 --> 06:20:14.900 I obviously don't have a link or anything, but I've been in this situation where 06:20:14.900 --> 06:20:18.620 I'm on the back foot versus the fast then, and I was able to make a nice comeback 06:20:18.620 --> 06:20:22.980 win happen by just expanding off to the sides and just buying a lot of time so 06:20:22.980 --> 06:20:26.620 Ethan was not dead it is they said up to do some things that are unorthodox and 06:20:26.620 --> 06:20:29.620 I'm not sure if somebody would figure that out but it is cool to know that it 06:20:29.620 --> 06:20:34.300 could be done here and that's a little three-cam you pick up there while it just 06:20:34.300 --> 06:20:37.780 has to figure out the piece of the puzzle that would kind of solve the 06:20:37.780 --> 06:20:40.860 situation for him one minute to imp and I like this harass for me thermal 06:20:40.860 --> 06:20:44.900 this is looking better than the last game for sure at least yeah this is 06:20:44.900 --> 06:20:49.780 nice getting activity with the crossbows you mentioning earlier how it's 06:20:49.780 --> 06:20:54.180 actually 50% of the repair cost when you take damage on a manganelle that was 06:20:54.180 --> 06:20:57.900 pretty costly just the two cameo ukes getting the manganelle down to 30% HP 06:20:57.900 --> 06:21:01.780 yes that's not as good as killing it but it feels pretty nice for him anyway 06:21:01.780 --> 06:21:06.540 yeah you are getting some kind of a trade for it monk she's burning crossbows 06:21:06.540 --> 06:21:09.220 as well which is not something you see every day but cat lances making it 06:21:09.220 --> 06:21:14.700 work here and it gets both crossways get patching up to use you just heal it up 06:21:14.700 --> 06:21:20.900 a little bit of healing come like I couldn't get any worse no emphasis here 06:21:20.900 --> 06:21:25.220 you thermal must be choking right now like dude big gulp emphasis here but you 06:21:25.220 --> 06:21:28.420 throw has got a lot of resources got 30 extra villagers honestly if I had a 06:21:28.420 --> 06:21:32.220 play from here I think you throw was a better position in theory honestly 06:21:32.220 --> 06:21:37.220 he didn't have to not change it no way yeah he does I promise he does the 06:21:37.220 --> 06:21:39.720 The two trebuchets will kill a lot of things, right? 06:21:39.720 --> 06:21:41.420 But, if you just go to the back. 06:21:41.420 --> 06:21:43.440 No, not stables! 06:21:44.540 --> 06:21:46.020 It's the Helm's deep stables! 06:21:46.020 --> 06:21:47.520 It's always stables, bro! 06:21:47.520 --> 06:21:50.020 It's always stables for you, Theramal. 06:21:50.020 --> 06:21:52.820 He doesn't do the roll at some point. 06:21:52.820 --> 06:21:53.660 Bro, could he? 06:21:53.660 --> 06:21:55.540 I can't even have some workspace. 06:21:55.540 --> 06:21:56.380 No, no, no. 06:21:56.380 --> 06:21:57.220 It doesn't matter. 06:21:57.220 --> 06:21:58.040 You lose your tre- 06:21:58.040 --> 06:21:58.880 Okay, first of all, 06:21:58.880 --> 06:22:00.500 the trebs are only safe near the castle. 06:22:00.500 --> 06:22:01.780 So you just lose all of this, 06:22:01.780 --> 06:22:03.780 which I know looks like a lot and it is. 06:22:03.780 --> 06:22:05.580 So if you just back up here and get the imp, 06:22:05.580 --> 06:22:06.740 you have cannons. 06:22:06.740 --> 06:22:10.900 So he must have cannons in his dome so he can push back out with bombards in like 5 minutes. 06:22:10.900 --> 06:22:11.900 It can be done. 06:22:11.900 --> 06:22:14.500 But he's thinking in a lot of his resources in the stables. 06:22:14.500 --> 06:22:18.740 Dude, for your thermal in this game is like crossbows and knights. 06:22:18.740 --> 06:22:20.820 In Starcraft, is there only 2 units? 06:22:20.820 --> 06:22:24.060 He's all of his crossbow, knights, nothing else. 06:22:24.060 --> 06:22:28.740 What you need here is like cannons, you know, buying some time, go for the hand cannon 06:22:28.740 --> 06:22:29.740 here. 06:22:29.740 --> 06:22:32.380 You need some, a little bit after the box thinking and you think I'm just not 06:22:32.380 --> 06:22:33.700 the guy for it. 06:22:33.700 --> 06:22:37.780 I'm saying he's speaking Greek right now I don't understand these units they's 06:22:37.780 --> 06:22:41.700 talking about. 06:22:41.700 --> 06:22:44.700 You need different types of units. 06:22:44.700 --> 06:22:47.700 Well you lost to a one unit spammer so you don't care. 06:22:47.700 --> 06:22:51.700 I did but I dropped by one unit like that in the tournament. 06:22:51.700 --> 06:22:55.700 Yeah, you went that horribly. You had like a few good styles but 06:22:55.700 --> 06:22:57.700 you were kind of like a calf spammer, I think. 06:22:57.700 --> 06:23:00.700 Calf archer, calf spammer. 06:23:00.700 --> 06:23:08.220 Yeah, at the end of the day everyone's just a spammer slash one chick slash cheese in someone else like oh 06:23:11.860 --> 06:23:17.740 We haven't emailed for that hair a treb in the chat if you're a subscriber a little basketball action there for the trebuchet 06:23:17.740 --> 06:23:22.380 Knocking down the magnet pretty costly and these monks are getting some insane conversions on the cosmos 06:23:22.380 --> 06:23:23.820 Are you thermos defending for now? 06:23:23.820 --> 06:23:28.940 He's up 30 villagers still is bring up a lot of nights. Don't show the nights or show them and go for the trebs 06:23:28.940 --> 06:23:32.520 Oh, okay. This is a big pushback. He's going in. He needs to kill all the trebuchets 06:23:33.160 --> 06:23:35.560 He's dodging the arrow fire with the crossbows. Oh 06:23:36.620 --> 06:23:38.460 well 06:23:38.460 --> 06:23:40.660 Stepping the monk step in the box taking them out 06:23:42.500 --> 06:23:44.500 To convertions though 06:23:49.940 --> 06:23:55.100 It's fine 16 cents fine. It's not fine. No, no, this is fine with the houses on fire 06:23:55.820 --> 06:23:57.820 Yeah, exactly. So this is fine 06:23:58.940 --> 06:24:02.380 Oh, I don't know he gave it one more. He's got he's got three nights now 06:24:03.020 --> 06:24:09.560 No, it's Gigi. Oh my goodness captain Lance has took out you thermal from the upper bracket Gigi in the chat 06:24:09.560 --> 06:24:15.000 What a freaking banger series captain Lance has showed himself as a force to be reckoned with but again 06:24:15.000 --> 06:24:18.580 It's not just the knowledge that he's got he's also executing it very well 06:24:18.580 --> 06:24:21.780 He's keeping up with the micro in the macro be thermal and you thermal 06:24:21.780 --> 06:24:24.260 I honestly don't feel like he played bad at all 06:24:24.260 --> 06:24:25.140 He had a great series 06:24:25.140 --> 06:24:30.880 He just got kind of knowledge checked a little bit and he got put in uncomfortable positions on arena and fortress and 06:24:31.260 --> 06:24:36.580 I think he's gonna be kicking himself. He's gotta he's gotta get better on those maps if he wants to win this tournament 06:24:38.300 --> 06:24:40.300 Damn, what is that? 06:24:42.580 --> 06:24:44.580 Why I mean I could wish for 06:24:46.020 --> 06:24:48.980 Yeah, that was a fantastic best of five series right there 06:24:48.980 --> 06:24:54.820 We saw a lot of really nice plays by thermal and like understanding how to put pressure and like he showed 06:24:54.820 --> 06:24:58.900 They can work wonders with those crossbows as well, but captain lands at the end of the day 06:24:58.900 --> 06:25:01.800 It feels like he's a little bit more prepared. Just strategy-wise 06:25:02.980 --> 06:25:08.880 Like this big advantage on the arena map. Yeah. Yeah, it's just again 06:25:09.180 --> 06:25:13.400 It's a three map tournament right first map fortified register fortress, excuse me 06:25:13.400 --> 06:25:18.260 And then after that Arabia or arena and for those complaining about arena being boring 06:25:18.260 --> 06:25:21.420 It's either it's just Arabia or it's Arabia and a bit of arena 06:25:21.420 --> 06:25:25.280 I think it's a good mix and I think it shows that you can play a couple of different styles 06:25:25.440 --> 06:25:28.900 You don't just have to play that Arabia aggressive style in the opening 06:25:28.900 --> 06:25:30.900 so I like having that mix and 06:25:31.220 --> 06:25:37.040 Captain Lance showing that you know, he's got some good skills on arena something to watch out for but you throw them all on both 06:25:37.100 --> 06:25:39.860 Both the rabies and I think he's still in a good spot to win this tournament 06:25:39.860 --> 06:25:42.780 He just has to make a loser bracket run and see if you make that happen 06:25:42.780 --> 06:25:46.780 But yo waga sing sing. Thanks for being with me on the cast you guys have been fantastic and 06:25:47.700 --> 06:25:48.980 It was great 06:25:48.980 --> 06:25:56.020 Yeah, it was a lot of fun to be on here and you know like we got to watch a really amazing series these players are so impressive honestly so 06:25:56.580 --> 06:25:57.860 Thank you for having us 06:25:57.860 --> 06:26:01.140 Thank you guys any last words you want to say for the chat before we move on to the next step 06:26:02.660 --> 06:26:07.220 No, just good luck to waga. Good luck further man. That's all for me. Thank you man. I'll do my best 06:26:08.340 --> 06:26:11.860 All right, thanks. Thank you both and we'll see you guys later 06:26:12.100 --> 06:26:14.100 Gds adalma 06:26:14.100 --> 06:26:21.100 Alright, that was a fantastic cast from Uthermal, sorry not from Uthermal from Wagamama and Mr. Singsing. 06:26:21.100 --> 06:26:28.100 Alright guys, we're heading on to the next part of the tournament here, the next match of the tournament. 06:26:28.100 --> 06:26:32.100 But we're going to take a little break, just a 5 minute break probably or a 3 minute break, just to get a bit of rest. 06:26:32.100 --> 06:26:38.100 We've been going for 6 hours and a half strong and I'm not going to lie, I've had that stress of the admin decisions as well with the Atrock match. 06:26:38.100 --> 06:26:42.200 match so I'm feeling a little overwhelmed right now but I just want to say the 06:26:42.200 --> 06:26:45.140 support from the chat has been amazing. The viewership is off the charts as always. 06:26:45.140 --> 06:26:48.600 Thank you all for being here, thanks for all the subs and support, all the bits and 06:26:48.600 --> 06:26:51.980 whatnot. Catmillans with a great result over the Thermal. Catmillans the first 06:26:51.980 --> 06:26:55.780 player in the upper bracket final. Up next we're going to have Grubby 06:26:55.780 --> 06:27:00.500 versus Pig most likely and that's going to be the second spot in the 06:27:00.500 --> 06:27:04.020 upper bracket final. The Thermal versus Vaga will be the loser bracket match 06:27:04.020 --> 06:27:08.700 up there. Singsing with the raid. Thank you so much to Singsing. Really really 06:27:08.700 --> 06:27:11.220 appreciate what you brought to the event Singsing. Thanks for casting with me. 06:27:11.220 --> 06:27:15.620 Thanks for the raid. Welcome to Singsing's viewers. Guys Dota 2 has been made proud 06:27:15.620 --> 06:27:20.420 today. Of course it was a Dota 2 civil war between Waga and Singsing but Waga 06:27:20.420 --> 06:27:25.300 proved to be the better Dota 2 player or at least the better Dota 2 06:27:25.300 --> 06:27:29.140 player on A2 at least for the day and he advanced. He's facing you 06:27:29.140 --> 06:27:32.660 thermal so all of Singsing fans will cheer for Waga and we'll see what 06:27:32.660 --> 06:27:36.900 you can do against you thermal one of the favorites of the entire event Knoff takes the admin win against Hrock 06:27:36.900 --> 06:27:43.300 There's a bit of a no-show action. Unfortunately Hrock stayed till 4 a.m. Last night just practicing hard preparing for the event 06:27:43.300 --> 06:27:49.860 He had the helmet on but he overslapped he misses the alarm by 10 minutes or so maybe a bit more maybe 30 minutes and 06:27:50.500 --> 06:27:54.020 Knoff will get the admin win there and it's all good 06:27:54.020 --> 06:27:57.140 We cleared it up and Knoff will be waiting for the loser between grubby and pig 06:27:57.140 --> 06:28:01.540 which is up next. So give us five minutes break and then we're going to 06:28:01.540 --> 06:28:05.540 present to you the next match and we'll show the next cast as well. So take 06:28:05.540 --> 06:28:12.180 care and I'll be right back. And make sure to follow the stream if you guys are new here be. 06:28:27.140 --> 06:28:29.200 you 06:28:57.140 --> 06:28:59.200 you 06:29:27.140 --> 06:29:29.200 you 06:29:57.140 --> 06:29:59.200 you 06:30:27.140 --> 06:30:29.200 you 06:30:57.140 --> 06:30:59.200 you 06:31:27.140 --> 06:31:29.200 you 06:31:57.140 --> 06:31:59.200 you 06:32:27.140 --> 06:32:29.200 you 06:32:57.140 --> 06:32:59.200 you 06:33:27.140 --> 06:33:29.200 you 06:33:57.140 --> 06:33:59.200 you 06:34:27.140 --> 06:34:29.200 you 06:34:57.140 --> 06:35:13.420 I'm saying that to myself because I'm back and we have you guys coming in. We have two 06:35:13.420 --> 06:35:17.220 casters coming in with me right now. We got Dash and Dave, D and D. What's going on, 06:35:17.220 --> 06:35:18.220 guys? 06:35:18.220 --> 06:35:22.100 Yo, what's up, man? 06:35:22.100 --> 06:35:26.140 What is going on? Listen, guys, I don't know if you guys have been following the term 06:35:26.140 --> 06:35:30.900 It's been banger after banger and we're in for possibly one of the best match to the tournament grubby versus pig 06:35:31.180 --> 06:35:33.580 How you guys doing and how do you guys feel about this matchup coming up? 06:35:35.020 --> 06:35:38.300 Doing really well actually we were just in that other channel 06:35:38.300 --> 06:35:41.000 So we began talking about the tournament a little bit 06:35:41.420 --> 06:35:45.700 You know from from our perspectives, but I mean the tournament is delivered in 06:35:46.260 --> 06:35:52.740 Every imaginable way as I would have expected it to but we were I was just about to say to him like Lance's performance 06:35:52.740 --> 06:35:56.340 has been so impressive taking out tournament favorites. 06:35:56.340 --> 06:35:57.780 I think it's interesting because he's 06:35:57.780 --> 06:35:59.980 one of the players who's been most willing to go 06:35:59.980 --> 06:36:04.260 for very different strategies, or at least utilize 06:36:04.260 --> 06:36:06.460 the uniqueness of different SIVs, 06:36:06.460 --> 06:36:08.980 where it feels like a lot of the favorites, quote unquote, 06:36:08.980 --> 06:36:11.780 favorites in the tournament, or the people who are high elo, 06:36:11.780 --> 06:36:12.940 they specialize in one thing. 06:36:12.940 --> 06:36:14.660 They got really good at doing one thing, 06:36:14.660 --> 06:36:17.860 but it does make them somewhat one-dimensional. 06:36:17.860 --> 06:36:18.940 Yeah, spot on analysis. 06:36:18.940 --> 06:36:19.860 That's the same for me. 06:36:19.860 --> 06:36:21.420 Like Captain Lance does have the advantage 06:36:21.420 --> 06:36:22.660 of having played more games. 06:36:22.660 --> 06:36:27.660 He's got a lot more knowledge, but also it's pretty good at the micro-macro stuff as well, in his own right. 06:36:27.660 --> 06:36:34.660 Grubby, though, for me, feels like another guy that, while not having played as much as Captain Lance, has played a good amount himself, 06:36:34.660 --> 06:36:38.660 has got a lot of knowledge. Pig has accumulated a ton of knowledge in those late-night streams. 06:36:38.660 --> 06:36:45.660 I'm curious, Dave, it's kind of your time zone as well. Did you catch much of Pig's streams since you've been playing a lot in the late-nights? 06:36:45.660 --> 06:36:53.240 I think pig has been like the least viewed person for me, which is exciting because I get to see him here for like the second time 06:36:53.340 --> 06:36:59.940 I've been watching tofu. I've been watching Lance's had some real grindy streams like some nine hour or ten hour streams 06:36:59.940 --> 06:37:04.380 Yeah, just grinding away and you could see it man, and of course I've been watching grubby as well 06:37:04.380 --> 06:37:07.580 I mean grubby. He's come so far from when he used to 06:37:08.100 --> 06:37:14.500 Use to play a we two when you're coaching him like months ago. Yeah and T90 was getting on with him as well 06:37:14.500 --> 06:37:20.500 It was a grubby that was sitting at like 1100 or 1200 he didn't really understand the game and now 06:37:21.140 --> 06:37:23.140 He's up to what? 06:37:23.700 --> 06:37:29.920 1850 he got to was super impressive and knocking on the doors of 1900 and of course grubby's history with a way to goes way back 06:37:29.920 --> 06:37:32.920 Like if you go even further back in that day, but three four years ago 06:37:32.920 --> 06:37:35.520 He was like a coaching session with Viper 06:37:35.520 --> 06:37:39.660 But that was like really really baby grubby when it comes to a with you would just take in his baby steps 06:37:39.660 --> 06:37:44.940 Figuring out what units are doing now. He's all grown up almost 1900 a bit lower though in terms of peak illo 06:37:44.940 --> 06:37:46.900 Been practicing on the ranked ladder may be losing some games 06:37:46.900 --> 06:37:52.580 But still a very stock very strong player possibly the favorite for the entire tournament guys grubby versus pig 06:37:52.740 --> 06:37:57.740 The first match up here is red is that fortress Malay for grubby and we got the Portuguese for pig now 06:37:57.740 --> 06:38:01.220 There is a strategy want to talk about here that we've seen earlier from mr. 06:38:01.220 --> 06:38:05.300 Llama is actually a repeat matchup so pick it have some PTSD right now 06:38:05.300 --> 06:38:12.140 Malay on this map went for mr. Lamma went for carambits and rams six of those rams filled with carambits 06:38:12.140 --> 06:38:18.500 Went for an all-in broke through the wall and destroyed pigs base now pig died to that will he fall for it again? 06:38:18.500 --> 06:38:22.180 I'm not really sure but it's he's got to think about that a little bit. I 06:38:23.140 --> 06:38:25.340 Don't think grubby's going for a strat like that 06:38:25.340 --> 06:38:29.040 I think grubby will go for like a fast in type of forward castle deal here 06:38:29.060 --> 06:38:34.020 It doesn't seem like like the caram bit play. I guess we could do play on words there 06:38:34.020 --> 06:38:38.180 doesn't seem like the most consistent strat if you're the favorite coming in. 06:38:38.180 --> 06:38:42.340 It's probably better to just, you know, get a decent eco, maybe two or three TC, 06:38:42.340 --> 06:38:45.300 and then forward cast them, try break them in Imperial H. 06:38:45.300 --> 06:38:50.820 Because Portuguese in late game against Malay is disaster for Malay, right? 06:38:50.820 --> 06:38:52.980 Like Portuguese should be able to slaughter them. 06:38:52.980 --> 06:38:55.940 Yeah, Portuguese definitely would be stronger in play. 06:38:55.940 --> 06:38:57.940 Dash, I want to get your experience in Age of Empires. 06:38:57.940 --> 06:39:00.020 You've been around the scene for a long time. 06:39:00.020 --> 06:39:01.700 Have you played Age of Empires? 06:39:01.700 --> 06:39:06.340 You know what kind of you leave been hitting and are you enjoying to just hop into a cast here? 06:39:06.340 --> 06:39:08.540 But you got a lot of knowledge you've been casting over the years as well 06:39:09.260 --> 06:39:12.380 Yeah, I mean not I've played this game since I was a child 06:39:12.380 --> 06:39:15.380 But I got reintroduced to a way back in like 2016 06:39:15.380 --> 06:39:18.380 I want to say when I rediscovered it on twitch boobly days 06:39:18.660 --> 06:39:26.100 You know figured out how to download that crazy client and started playing and and then somehow, you know got involved with 06:39:26.100 --> 06:39:32.660 T90 and and Dave for some cast and whatnot and yeah, I make my you know, I appear every once in a while my 06:39:33.180 --> 06:39:36.380 Elo hubbers in that 1,300 to 1,400 06:39:36.780 --> 06:39:40.860 Area, so I'd be like mid-pack maybe you know in this group of players 06:39:41.580 --> 06:39:47.460 But of course I've been playing on and off for like 20 years and a lot of these guys been playing for a few weeks 06:39:47.460 --> 06:39:51.540 So yeah, I'm impressed to see still bad bro still bad 06:39:52.180 --> 06:39:55.300 But it's just like I am so awful compared to these guys 06:39:55.300 --> 06:40:00.300 But it has been so unmotivating to watch a number of them get better. 06:40:00.300 --> 06:40:04.300 So I actually did play just a few 1v1s. I mostly play team games. 06:40:04.300 --> 06:40:09.300 It's kind of my relax at the end of the night. I play team games with a glass of wine in hand. 06:40:09.300 --> 06:40:12.300 And those can be very wild. 06:40:12.300 --> 06:40:15.300 Yeah, it's a super chill atmosphere, a lot of crazy stuff in those team games. 06:40:15.300 --> 06:40:17.300 But no, it's good to see you here for the cast. 06:40:17.300 --> 06:40:22.300 I just want to show the viewers here that most people here know you for your League days. 06:40:22.300 --> 06:40:25.580 days of course you're not casting some chests but you're actually an og for age 06:40:25.580 --> 06:40:29.580 vampires too as well which is absolutely fantastic so really happy to have both of 06:40:29.580 --> 06:40:33.100 you guys here Malay versus Portuguese nothing too suspicious happening in the 06:40:33.100 --> 06:40:36.860 early game Malay up a little faster to the feudal age and that's just due to 06:40:36.860 --> 06:40:40.380 their civilization bonus Portuguese do get some extra wood from the berries 06:40:40.380 --> 06:40:44.820 we're seeing some standard stuff so far but we only see crazy stuff happen in 06:40:44.820 --> 06:40:47.940 the castle age on this map and nothing really can be done in feudal age 06:40:47.940 --> 06:40:51.420 because you have the walls and you have the castle but I want to take 06:40:51.420 --> 06:40:55.020 attention to the king if this king dies you lose the game we've seen a record 06:40:55.020 --> 06:40:58.920 number of king slips in this tournament like an unbelievable amount of king 06:40:58.920 --> 06:41:03.180 slip you can see in a king march forward to the center of the map and die in 06:41:03.180 --> 06:41:07.740 combat Dave I think you've seen that as well and just such amazing moments from 06:41:07.740 --> 06:41:11.620 this king I love the fact that we have a registered fortress game one and we're 06:41:11.620 --> 06:41:15.860 about to see what goes what goes on as passage rolls around well I think the 06:41:15.860 --> 06:41:19.700 most famous one I don't know if were you there at that tournament was one 06:41:19.700 --> 06:41:25.700 One of the NACs where Yo ripped his king right into the castle of, was it MBL? 06:41:25.700 --> 06:41:27.100 I can't remember. 06:41:27.100 --> 06:41:29.100 But it was within like a minute and a half. 06:41:29.100 --> 06:41:30.100 It wasn't on this map. 06:41:30.100 --> 06:41:31.100 It was on Copenhagen. 06:41:31.100 --> 06:41:32.620 But very similar start. 06:41:32.620 --> 06:41:37.100 And then I went out with a smoke break or with Yo for a smoke break afterwards and his 06:41:37.100 --> 06:41:38.500 hands were shaking bro. 06:41:38.500 --> 06:41:44.860 He was so demoralized and then for the next two years I don't know if you remember 06:41:44.860 --> 06:41:45.860 it here. 06:41:45.860 --> 06:41:48.940 He'd keep his king inside of his base like he wouldn't even leave. 06:41:48.940 --> 06:41:50.940 He doesn't scout with it at all. 06:41:50.940 --> 06:42:00.940 In pro play, you scout with the king early, and it's normally safe, but if you run into the castle it could cause some very traumatic experiences, and yo, definitely learn this lesson. 06:42:00.940 --> 06:42:08.940 In this tournament, we actually saw the spiffing Brit in his first competitive match run his king into the castle as well, so that was a horrible start to the spiffing Brit's career. 06:42:08.940 --> 06:42:13.940 But it looks like it's not going to be anything too suspicious. It's going to be a boom from both sides. 06:42:13.940 --> 06:42:17.160 So, you know kind of called it here on the casting on the casting roster 06:42:17.420 --> 06:42:21.620 No ram rush for grubby this confident to just play a straight-up game against pig 06:42:22.980 --> 06:42:27.480 Pig is likely to go for a 4tc play and he's gonna go for a massive boom with the Portuguese 06:42:27.940 --> 06:42:29.940 What's gonna plays out for him? 06:42:30.540 --> 06:42:32.540 So grubby does go forward 06:42:32.900 --> 06:42:36.580 With the castle like I suspect you will like maybe two or three tc play 06:42:36.660 --> 06:42:42.660 What sort of options does pig have against that if he's like really off on the timing if he's going for 4tc 06:42:42.660 --> 06:42:49.460 going to be a lot later to him. How do you approach dealing with that if you're in pigs position? 06:42:49.460 --> 06:42:53.140 Yeah, generally speaking, I think if you're going to go for the 4TC boom, you're going to 06:42:53.140 --> 06:42:57.940 acknowledge the risk of giving up the map. If you take a look at this nasty hill, if Grubby gets here 06:42:57.940 --> 06:43:02.900 and like you said, Dave is trepid with that fast, and this castle will die, the wall will be opened 06:43:02.900 --> 06:43:06.900 up, I think the best thing you can do is honestly just give ground. The 4TC boom, 06:43:06.900 --> 06:43:10.580 you give ground, you have a much better economy, and then you try to push it back 06:43:10.580 --> 06:43:14.980 with that much better economy and the stronger Portuguese late game. However, it's very hard 06:43:14.980 --> 06:43:19.140 to make that call and we've seen players try to fight into the hill and just flat out lose the 06:43:19.140 --> 06:43:23.460 game early. Like, that's been a common theme here. So, as you can see, Grubby accelerated a melee 06:43:23.460 --> 06:43:28.180 start, 3PC already set up with a monastery, no Karambits. Oh, no, a couple Karambits coming out. 06:43:29.860 --> 06:43:33.780 I think he just wants to get the relics. Relics is the name of the game for him. 06:43:33.780 --> 06:43:44.780 He is such a, you know, I mean, being a pro player himself, like he is so, his mindset is so much about like what would essentially be the pro approach to a game. 06:43:44.780 --> 06:43:45.780 Yes. 06:43:45.780 --> 06:43:51.780 So that's where I see him looking to play exactly towards the relics. We already have the first monk out onto the field. 06:43:51.780 --> 06:43:59.780 He's guarding a number of them as is. I think the only one he won't get maybe is far left side near the TC that Pig is placing. 06:43:59.780 --> 06:44:02.780 Yeah, I think you just called him greedy dash. 06:44:02.780 --> 06:44:06.780 He wants to play like a pro. He wants to play like a hero, right? 06:44:06.780 --> 06:44:10.780 Grubby is one of the greediest players in this tournament, dude. 100%. 06:44:10.780 --> 06:44:15.780 It goes back to our conversation about being the favorite. And I mean, Aero, you could probably speak... 06:44:15.780 --> 06:44:18.780 You and I know you can speak to this directly. Like, when you're the favorite, you know, 06:44:18.780 --> 06:44:23.780 or when you are better than your opponent, you can and typically will try to get away with some things 06:44:23.780 --> 06:44:27.780 that maybe you wouldn't against somebody that is at equal skill, you know. 06:44:27.780 --> 06:44:30.780 And so if he believes he's the favorite in this situation, 06:44:30.780 --> 06:44:38.500 Situation then yeah, he's gonna just look to take those incremental advantages and force you to beat him as opposed to him needing to necessarily do anything wild 06:44:38.860 --> 06:44:41.780 Yeah, I hundred percent agree with that like when you're the underdog 06:44:41.780 --> 06:44:44.540 You can take a lot more risks because the Sanchez are you gonna go 06:44:44.540 --> 06:44:48.300 You know you're gonna be behind in the set if you play like a hundred sets you might lose like 70 of them 06:44:48.300 --> 06:44:50.860 You might have like a 30% win rates as the underdog 06:44:50.860 --> 06:44:56.020 So you're more likely to take risks whereas the favorite wants to play consistent and here the consistent way to play is a little bit 06:44:56.020 --> 06:45:00.060 military, take the relic, secure some of the late game, but Pick has already sniped a monk. 06:45:00.060 --> 06:45:03.820 And so like Grubby's greed of making very few Karambas trying to take these monks already 06:45:03.820 --> 06:45:07.020 kind of punished and take a look at these organs, man, he just knocked out the Karamban's 06:45:07.020 --> 06:45:10.020 teeth. 06:45:10.020 --> 06:45:13.780 The big investment into the organs early though, if you're going for TC, true, like 06:45:13.780 --> 06:45:16.780 he's going to struggle to get the food eco set up, he's going to struggle to 06:45:16.780 --> 06:45:20.820 produce from all four of these CCs right now. 06:45:20.820 --> 06:45:23.500 Two town centers producing finally buy some food. 06:45:23.500 --> 06:45:24.740 So he's going to balance that out. 06:45:24.740 --> 06:45:27.760 It looks it actually looks pretty good for big. Yeah, it's okay though 06:45:27.760 --> 06:45:33.160 But he will run into some troubles so you definitely read about that Dave like normally looking at six farms from TC to stabilize 06:45:33.160 --> 06:45:37.780 So three TCS 18 farms right now. We have for TC and we're just hitting 18 farms 06:45:37.780 --> 06:45:42.520 So there's gonna be some idle TC time for sure on pigs position and grubby with that natural accelerated boom 06:45:42.560 --> 06:45:47.740 Had a nice six village lead and it will be picking up the relics slowly despite a little bit of a you know 06:45:47.740 --> 06:45:51.440 Hick up on that first relic actually pigs doing a great job of guarding these relics 06:45:51.440 --> 06:45:55.440 I actually love that. It's kind of adapted into countering Grubby's style. 06:45:55.440 --> 06:45:59.440 Grubby's desperately looking for another rally, taking the long way around to play it safe. 06:45:59.440 --> 06:46:04.440 Still a nice solid eco for Grubby though. Look at the farms coming down. 06:46:04.440 --> 06:46:07.440 It's one thing I'm really impressed with Grubby. 06:46:07.440 --> 06:46:14.440 Uthermal, Death Note as well. Even though he had a lower elo, he was so good at getting the farms up on time. 06:46:14.440 --> 06:46:18.440 The macro for some of these guys is really solid. That's just experience. 06:46:18.440 --> 06:46:22.860 Funner games, Death Note's boom might be the best boom out of all these places. 06:46:22.860 --> 06:46:24.360 It is! No dude, it is! 06:46:24.360 --> 06:46:29.440 Like the guy is constantly at 95 farms. It's insane. It's like watching you or something. 06:46:29.440 --> 06:46:32.600 It's just, you know, a little bit lacking on the full- 06:46:32.600 --> 06:46:34.440 This is pressure-side for him. 06:46:34.440 --> 06:46:38.740 It's funny because he gets like 160 builds and then only now he just starts thinking about army. 06:46:38.740 --> 06:46:40.940 Not even preparing it, just starts thinking about it. 06:46:40.940 --> 06:46:44.440 And he just skywalks. We saw Death Note at 182 builds. 06:46:44.440 --> 06:46:47.940 And he lost that game, needless to say, due to lack of military. 06:46:47.940 --> 06:46:51.480 Which was hilarious, but it's actually good character. I love death note and what he's brought to the tournament 06:46:51.720 --> 06:46:54.800 But dash what do you make of the situation here? It's gonna be a few relics for grubby 06:46:54.880 --> 06:47:00.640 But it's kind of balance like pig is also guarding some relics who probably get a couple himself as time goes on 06:47:00.640 --> 06:47:03.600 Yeah, it's not too bad balance. I mean, this is where I would quit 06:47:03.600 --> 06:47:08.600 I would question how early the monastery was dropped for grubby given the fact that he's not now 06:47:09.000 --> 06:47:12.200 Necessarily committed to getting the relics. He's just bringing his first relic home 06:47:12.200 --> 06:47:17.720 Where as pig on the other side he dropped four TC's now his monastery comes down and the first monks are coming out 06:47:17.720 --> 06:47:23.380 So earlier I was talking about the expectation of four relics going to grubby and one the other way and I think they're way more 06:47:23.600 --> 06:47:30.000 Contestable at this point. Yeah, and grubby now adding a fourth TC still even in village account 06:47:30.000 --> 06:47:33.460 So nobody's too much worse for where will Barrow finally coming in though 06:47:33.460 --> 06:47:36.480 So I'm feeling a lot better about grubby's food eco long term 06:47:36.480 --> 06:47:43.440 He also got up to this 34 food count a little bit quicker than pig did even though they now have equalized in that regard 06:47:43.440 --> 06:47:47.200 So still expecting the faster imperial time for grubby. I think the question is 06:47:48.160 --> 06:47:53.240 You know, when is he gonna come forward for that castle that they're expecting just now putting villagers onto stone 06:47:53.240 --> 06:47:55.560 We see the village account up to five on stone 06:47:55.560 --> 06:47:59.360 So could be a little while till he feels permission to come forward 06:47:59.360 --> 06:48:04.400 But what unit is he gonna use to support that see one stable coming down some Malay elephants, maybe 06:48:05.200 --> 06:48:07.200 Stables, you're playing. Oh 06:48:07.360 --> 06:48:11.680 If he's playing in the late game, he's playing into the death against Portuguese 06:48:11.680 --> 06:48:16.740 If Pig has the correct composition, I don't know about playing passive in this matchup if you're grubby 06:48:17.000 --> 06:48:19.000 the thing is though 06:48:19.000 --> 06:48:23.160 Something that isn't considered ever in pro play really because the skill level is so high and so close 06:48:23.160 --> 06:48:26.160 But grubby could just be confident in his superior late game 06:48:26.160 --> 06:48:30.360 I consider grubby's late game to be his best quality and if you can just say like okay 06:48:30.360 --> 06:48:34.480 Portuguese they game is you know better than Malay, but it's not miles better 06:48:34.480 --> 06:48:35.880 It's it's fightable 06:48:35.880 --> 06:48:40.320 The advantage that Portuguese get of course is the fact that they get the archibus on the gunpowder 06:48:40.320 --> 06:48:45.740 and they also get the discounted gold units, so they have, you know, ballistics on their gunpowder plus cheaper gold units 06:48:45.740 --> 06:48:50.220 It's very hard to fight into that as the melee, but if Grubby is a stronger player 06:48:50.220 --> 06:48:52.660 He could be happy playing the late game, but here's the thing 06:48:52.660 --> 06:48:55.960 I want to talk about this monastery from what Dash pointed out earlier 06:48:56.400 --> 06:48:59.740 Because Pig delayed the monastery and still could snacks and relics 06:48:59.740 --> 06:49:05.000 He's actually boomed faster and will hit the faster imp in theory unless Grubby can click right now 06:49:05.000 --> 06:49:09.660 I don't really understand the stable investment. I actually have no idea why he's mixing a few nights 06:49:09.660 --> 06:49:12.980 Maybe to count the organs, but seems a bit over the top 06:49:15.340 --> 06:49:21.640 Yeah feels like it's purely a reaction to the organ guns right he saw that his cramits were being dealt with and in an effort to get 06:49:21.640 --> 06:49:24.460 These relics he's like okay. I gotta get some kind of cab, but then it's like okay 06:49:24.460 --> 06:49:31.580 Just go I don't know maybe a few extra scouts or light cab even as opposed to the the night so that you have both an option to deal with 06:49:31.940 --> 06:49:35.900 The the monks and the the organ guns. Yeah, absolutely 06:49:35.900 --> 06:49:41.000 Absolutely and stable not gonna be like good for Malay long term. See these nights are only a short term option 06:49:41.000 --> 06:49:43.860 But again, not like have some monks could just push them back 06:49:46.460 --> 06:49:50.140 This pig know what a fator is great question 06:49:53.460 --> 06:49:58.740 He's played a lot of Portuguese I feel like he should and he's also kind of stuck like a student of the game 06:49:58.740 --> 06:50:00.100 Like he likes to think about it 06:50:00.100 --> 06:50:05.240 He's not just like some Yamato who just takes like a nice a nice one trick strategy and just rolls with it 06:50:05.240 --> 06:50:07.560 He likes to think about things and consider different options. 06:50:07.560 --> 06:50:10.360 I think yes, but it's a really good question. 06:50:12.660 --> 06:50:16.040 I mean, if he's walling himself into the corner like this, and this goes super 06:50:16.040 --> 06:50:18.660 late game, there's some excellent opportunities to play. 06:50:18.660 --> 06:50:21.560 Spatia is later and then a super powerful Portuguese comp. 06:50:21.560 --> 06:50:23.800 But that's a really complicated thing to do. 06:50:23.800 --> 06:50:26.580 If you're, if you're new to the game, right balancing the population 06:50:26.580 --> 06:50:30.640 space needed for that, plus your villager amount, right? 06:50:30.640 --> 06:50:33.200 You don't want to have three fatorias and then a hundred villagers. 06:50:33.200 --> 06:50:34.720 You won't have any space for military. 06:50:34.720 --> 06:50:40.640 Absolutely it it could get difficult later. That's a question for 30 minutes from now though right now 06:50:40.640 --> 06:50:45.880 It's gonna be organ guns some monks archer ranges coming up from our tree ranges. Yeah 06:50:46.400 --> 06:50:50.200 Is that a blust or a hank in a near like I think our bus makes the most sense 06:50:50.200 --> 06:50:53.580 I would say our would make the most sense because you have the organ guns, but then you're 06:50:54.360 --> 06:50:57.680 Flying double range. Are you just committing your castle to trep production? 06:50:57.840 --> 06:51:00.880 But you're adding to teach workshops. There's a lot of commitment on wood 06:51:00.880 --> 06:51:06.080 I guess he is floating a ton of friends right now behind the way pig is adding in barracks 06:51:06.080 --> 06:51:10.000 Which is usually not a good call against Malay because their tabular line isn't the best 06:51:10.000 --> 06:51:16.880 But Malay have really cheap elephant that grubby is drawn to and so the barracks from pig is a perfect read on the situation 06:51:17.320 --> 06:51:22.980 Grubby's going for the cheap Malay elephants, which are a bit squishy considering their elephants. They have you know missing armor upgrades 06:51:23.320 --> 06:51:25.000 But they're very cheap 06:51:25.000 --> 06:51:29.100 Counter them if are blessed and you have a habit here. It's a perfect composition for pig 06:51:29.100 --> 06:51:35.140 I don't know how he's made that. Oh really crazy. He got it first pig got the relic in the corner first 06:51:35.980 --> 06:51:39.060 So he's gonna have to and grubby's gonna have 06:51:40.100 --> 06:51:42.100 He'll have three 06:51:43.180 --> 06:51:44.980 Wow 06:51:44.980 --> 06:51:47.320 I'll have three and grubby love to dude late 06:51:49.060 --> 06:51:52.780 Yeah, yeah, that's not worth it for grubby. He could have had a much better boom 06:51:52.780 --> 06:51:55.980 invest into the relics only got to he's not too happy about that it's not a 06:51:55.980 --> 06:52:00.540 disaster but it is somewhat you know underwhelming for him he's gonna go to 06:52:00.540 --> 06:52:04.820 it's coming in it's coming in hot it's coming in hot for the relic rubby wants 06:52:04.820 --> 06:52:08.860 that relic he dodges the shots he's dead 06:52:08.860 --> 06:52:13.820 Morgan Gunsman dropping more stables he's got six stable commitment now yeah 06:52:13.820 --> 06:52:17.460 this is really terrifying I feel like he's just gonna get absolutely bulldozed 06:52:17.460 --> 06:52:20.460 with it in composition he's not thinking at all about adding any range 06:52:20.460 --> 06:52:28.620 units in at the moment like Malay Arbalas would be able to support against infantry and Arbalas on the our hand cannons as it appears to be on the other side 06:52:28.860 --> 06:52:32.240 instead he's just gonna run a slow moving massive 06:52:32.700 --> 06:52:34.700 elephants into a 06:52:35.020 --> 06:52:39.700 Firing line. Yeah. Yeah, that big that pig is going for is fantastic, right? 06:52:40.860 --> 06:52:46.660 Yeah, you play slow with the Portuguese you have the better army if he gets archivist for these hand cannons 06:52:46.660 --> 06:52:53.140 They'll have ballistics as well. Yeah, like Robbie will just be feeding units into this 06:52:53.140 --> 06:52:56.020 But it's gonna be a guy's it's gonna be a lot of elephants 06:53:00.100 --> 06:53:05.400 Eco for pig dude, he just went for two man saw a crop rotation. He's setting up 06:53:06.260 --> 06:53:09.100 He's missing hand car, but he's setting up for the late game terms of economy 06:53:09.100 --> 06:53:12.620 But dude if grubby just waits and it has like 60 elephants 06:53:12.620 --> 06:53:18.140 I don't care if you've got how but you're 60 elephants is a scary army and I love this from grubby take a look at the vision 06:53:18.140 --> 06:53:20.980 Let me zoom out here and capture edge grubby sees almost a whole map 06:53:20.980 --> 06:53:24.580 And he's done this consistently in his ladder games and in his tournament games 06:53:24.580 --> 06:53:30.860 So he knows what's coming and pig is much very much in the dark in comparison. He's only now getting his output. He's got 06:53:31.700 --> 06:53:36.020 Grubbys got that Starlink did he's got the whole vision look at this 06:53:36.740 --> 06:53:40.060 Satellites in the sky. Oh my god. It's crazy 06:53:40.060 --> 06:53:46.180 I think that is one of the biggest advantages or like one of the biggest 06:53:46.180 --> 06:53:51.280 kick holdovers from him being a top-level RTS player I see understands so 06:53:51.280 --> 06:53:55.900 tremendously like the value of scouting and vision yeah and so he prioritizes it 06:53:55.900 --> 06:54:00.620 to a greater degree than anyone else okay castle placement here for pig 06:54:00.620 --> 06:54:04.740 directly in the center of the map. When does he see the elephants? This is 06:54:04.740 --> 06:54:08.300 excellent for Grubby to hide this for as long as possible. He needs to leave 06:54:08.300 --> 06:54:13.260 as well. Okay, Elise coming in a minute 40 on that one. You don't show this until elite in my opinion. 06:54:13.260 --> 06:54:17.100 Now, Grubby sees the castle. He might be tempted to go for it, but I think Pig's army is actually 06:54:17.100 --> 06:54:20.300 better right now. Here they come. Missing the halbs though. We only have three halbs. 06:54:20.300 --> 06:54:24.060 Elephants will be seen. Pig, how does he react to this? Good attack ground to start things off. 06:54:26.540 --> 06:54:32.300 He's got halb, but there's only 10. The castle goes up. This is still a difficult push for 06:54:32.300 --> 06:54:37.340 Grubby though. I don't, Hera, I don't know if there's enough elephants here. That's a great 06:54:37.340 --> 06:54:38.540 What do you think to say? 06:54:38.540 --> 06:54:42.460 That is to say, we're 32, like I don't know if there's enough. 06:54:42.460 --> 06:54:46.660 Oh, he's gonna go in, he's planning the scourge to transition as you're saying Dash, a good 06:54:46.660 --> 06:54:49.100 you know, back line here is much needed. 06:54:49.100 --> 06:54:51.860 Grubby's waiting for the upgrade, 30 seconds to his upgrade, I think he's showing his 06:54:51.860 --> 06:54:55.340 hand a bit too early though, Pig is looking to fight, he's not scared of the elephants, 06:54:55.340 --> 06:54:58.900 he's got the guns firing in the back, Halberdier's to the front, we're missing some Halberdier's 06:54:58.900 --> 06:55:00.820 good snap on the trebs though. 06:55:00.820 --> 06:55:06.420 Yeah, Barry's still at micro here so far for Pig, with the ranged units, of course 06:55:06.420 --> 06:55:10.720 One trip still working away here. So the repairs coming in now we get the elite battle 06:55:10.940 --> 06:55:16.220 Health and upgrade. This is the terrifying moment here for pig. Will he be able to keep this castle alive? 06:55:16.980 --> 06:55:19.880 Really good timing to leave even if you even if you lose is it 06:55:20.660 --> 06:55:26.400 He's already taken so much value like how much value did grubby lose by engaging before that upgrade came in 06:55:26.700 --> 06:55:28.860 Tons feels like a lot, right? Yeah. Yeah 06:55:29.180 --> 06:55:31.540 Tons of value. He's got the he's got the lead scrim set up 06:55:31.540 --> 06:55:34.940 But we're still missing upgrades on the lead scrim a few of them have found the run to the castle 06:55:34.940 --> 06:55:40.940 I feel like Pig is playing a lot more solid right now. He's got the archivist tech. His cannons are actually sniping with ballistics now. 06:55:40.940 --> 06:55:45.940 This castle might go down, but I feel like Pig has the better army, more population. He's in a great spot. 06:55:45.940 --> 06:55:50.940 Yeah, this is kind of a classic desperation move. When the castle is low and you want to finish it off, 06:55:50.940 --> 06:55:54.940 he might actually be able to finish it off here, and he does. That'll feel good, but still streamed in. 06:55:54.940 --> 06:55:59.940 A few extra battle elephants there at the end that did not need to go down. The remaster needs to happen, 06:55:59.940 --> 06:56:02.940 because the momentum isn't actually going to flip the other way. 06:56:02.940 --> 06:56:06.540 three bombard cannons coming forward one trip gets sniped another trip about to go 06:56:06.540 --> 06:56:06.980 down 06:56:06.980 --> 06:56:10.380 well biggest thanks so fast look at how fast is pushing not getting grubby 06:56:10.380 --> 06:56:14.140 and is that as the favorite it keeps just going crazy stuff to trevor shades 06:56:14.140 --> 06:56:15.320 continues to push forward 06:56:15.320 --> 06:56:18.740 grab a shine remastered in a good job of it but he's losing units in the fight 06:56:18.740 --> 06:56:19.420 constantly 06:56:19.420 --> 06:56:22.940 yeah this is very confident play 06:56:22.940 --> 06:56:25.980 from pig I'm extremely impressed right now in grubby 06:56:25.980 --> 06:56:29.220 he just seemed a little bit passive he seemed a little bit unsure about this 06:56:29.220 --> 06:56:29.780 matchup 06:56:29.780 --> 06:56:31.780 It's a difficult one from Leigh. 06:56:31.780 --> 06:56:33.380 You gotta take advantage of the timers. 06:56:33.380 --> 06:56:34.900 He didn't do that. 06:56:34.900 --> 06:56:36.940 And now Pig is going for another castle. 06:56:36.940 --> 06:56:38.740 Grubby's gonna have to resort to a king snipe 06:56:38.740 --> 06:56:40.060 or something soon, bro. 06:56:40.060 --> 06:56:41.020 This is wild, man. 06:56:41.020 --> 06:56:43.660 I know my castle just went down in the center of the map. 06:56:43.660 --> 06:56:45.740 I'm gonna place one more forward. 06:56:45.740 --> 06:56:48.060 That's confidence right there. 06:56:48.060 --> 06:56:48.900 It's so true. 06:56:48.900 --> 06:56:49.740 He lost on the center of the map. 06:56:49.740 --> 06:56:50.580 He's like, no problem. 06:56:50.580 --> 06:56:51.620 Let's go forward. 06:56:51.620 --> 06:56:53.100 And the best part is like just to think it 06:56:53.100 --> 06:56:53.940 in the mind of pigs, 06:56:53.940 --> 06:56:55.820 get that super chill Australian accent. 06:56:55.820 --> 06:56:56.660 Nothing bothers him. 06:56:56.660 --> 06:56:58.100 He's just like, yeah, just go forward, man. 06:56:58.100 --> 06:56:59.580 It's all good, you know? 06:56:59.580 --> 06:57:05.100 Nothing phasing our paper is bombards. Okay, good. He only lost one there 06:57:05.700 --> 06:57:09.180 Looking for the tray. Oh my goodness. That's archivist right there 06:57:09.240 --> 06:57:13.800 Two of the cannons followed the cannon because of ballistics from the Portuguese unique tech 06:57:16.080 --> 06:57:18.140 Good job from grubby selling up this castle 06:57:18.140 --> 06:57:21.760 He needs to kill these villagers install this at this castle is brutal in a brutal position 06:57:21.760 --> 06:57:26.880 You here come another wave of elephants the production buildings from pig are too far away 06:57:26.880 --> 06:57:32.080 He needs to build some forward that the units are taking so long to get to the center of the map 06:57:32.080 --> 06:57:33.440 Yeah, and I've found the castle 06:57:33.440 --> 06:57:38.120 There's some villages from pick coming forward with the elephants from grubby kind of coming off those villagers skirmishes in the back 06:57:38.120 --> 06:57:40.120 line making short work of the ones that do slip through 06:57:40.320 --> 06:57:42.560 Elephants can't fighting his halves long term though 06:57:42.560 --> 06:57:47.200 You got to be careful and love the gun back line though the gun back line from the Portuguese 06:57:47.200 --> 06:57:51.720 He's like pig is playing exactly what he needs to but he's missing a lot of upgrades 06:57:51.720 --> 06:57:53.840 I'd love to see pick pick up those upgrades at some point 06:57:53.840 --> 06:57:59.840 Yeah, need the infantry upgrades just to make the halbrates even more efficient against those elephants. 06:57:59.840 --> 06:58:02.340 My concern right now is just kind of his eco distribution. 06:58:02.340 --> 06:58:09.840 He's low on food count or farmer count right now for running a composition that requires food for both his range and melee units. 06:58:09.840 --> 06:58:13.340 Yeah, it's a good point. 30 farms a little on the lower side of things. 06:58:13.340 --> 06:58:18.840 Maybe the economy needs a little restructuring as he goes forward and commits that four castle. 06:58:18.840 --> 06:58:20.840 Dave, what do you make of Grubby's options on defense? 06:58:20.840 --> 06:58:25.000 He's got a lot of villagers, 150, but the Elven Skirm might not work in the long-term. 06:58:26.280 --> 06:58:28.360 I mean, it's not going, it's not working right now. 06:58:28.600 --> 06:58:31.400 It's not working in the short-term, let alone the long-term, right? 06:58:31.400 --> 06:58:37.040 He just needs a big stack of bomber cannons, needs to clean up the siege, clean up the castle, 06:58:37.040 --> 06:58:40.080 and then find a way to out-macro Pig. 06:58:40.080 --> 06:58:43.240 If Pig has a castle forward and Grubby has to fight in one spot, 06:58:43.480 --> 06:58:45.160 that's definitely Advantage Portuguese. 06:58:45.160 --> 06:58:47.760 Grubby needs to make it more about the rest of the map. 06:58:47.960 --> 06:58:49.920 He has a castle. I love the castle that he did forward. 06:58:49.920 --> 06:58:53.160 Yes, I love that. And taking the gold, that's amazing. 06:58:53.160 --> 06:58:58.660 He can maybe pressure over there, but as far as just focusing all of his attention over in this area, 06:58:58.660 --> 06:59:02.060 it's not going to work out for the Malay, not in this situation. 06:59:02.060 --> 06:59:06.520 There's an element here at play, when you're the favorite and you're the one getting pushed back, 06:59:06.520 --> 06:59:11.160 sometimes you don't really want to take a huge risk and try to go for a crazy play on the side, 06:59:11.160 --> 06:59:14.800 because then if it doesn't work, you're just going to get steamrolled and that's going to feel very bad. 06:59:14.800 --> 06:59:16.960 So sometimes you just want to stick it out on defense, 06:59:16.960 --> 06:59:26.020 Try to make sure that you can have everything in the same spot, let your potential outplay potential be there, but so far it's not looking too good for Grubby. 06:59:26.020 --> 06:59:27.240 That's a lot of population though. 06:59:27.240 --> 06:59:34.200 Can we, dude, can we please make a barracks in the same hemisphere as this, like, fight that's happening? Please? 06:59:36.200 --> 06:59:40.000 Like, he's in Uganda, dude, with the barracks at the back of his face! 06:59:40.000 --> 06:59:47.300 I do feel like that is one of like the last things that mid e-low players start to understand is that as they push 06:59:47.300 --> 06:59:53.440 You need to reposition production buildings closer to where the fight is actually happening when you watch pro players 06:59:53.440 --> 06:59:59.640 They are constantly dropping new production buildings closer to the fight reinforcement time matters so much 06:59:59.840 --> 07:00:01.840 Yeah 07:00:01.840 --> 07:00:04.620 If it goes up to it'll cut off the reinforcements 07:00:04.620 --> 07:00:07.040 Oh pay attention to that and grubby can take a fight 07:00:07.040 --> 07:00:11.200 that's worthwhile at the front side the macro is paying off here for grubby dude 07:00:11.200 --> 07:00:17.800 This is such a close game the scores neck and neck pig missing upgrades making it so grubby's got some decent counter play here 07:00:17.800 --> 07:00:22.860 This castle in the center is already being targeted by the bombard. We've got a Trevor shape and grubby is they're gonna cut off the 07:00:23.020 --> 07:00:26.520 Reinforcement line and again now more than ever we need to middle the map production 07:00:26.520 --> 07:00:30.200 But here you go Dave you kind of got your wish some stables and bears coming down in the center 07:00:30.200 --> 07:00:32.440 Although these couple cannons might die to the castle 07:00:32.440 --> 07:00:40.040 Just has to regroup just regroup. Yeah, grubby the same thing right massive some 07:00:40.360 --> 07:00:46.720 Siege you had a good push there watch out for archivist those bomber cannons if they shoot you start running away 07:00:46.720 --> 07:00:52.780 That cannonball will track you into the edge of the earth. It's actually insane how much rage they they can have I 07:00:53.320 --> 07:00:58.460 Think he's good. He needs to have some villagers. I don't think he's realized how many villagers you lost 07:00:58.460 --> 07:01:05.860 During all that castle building he's down to 110 like in a long-term spam like grubby's eco is way healthier 07:01:05.860 --> 07:01:11.500 The rest is healthier that right now is gonna be grubby's way of winning. Oh and pig just leaked two cannons 07:01:11.500 --> 07:01:13.340 So not only did I have the most amount of villagers 07:01:13.340 --> 07:01:16.760 It's also leaking some units and also take your attention to the back of pig's base 07:01:16.780 --> 07:01:18.660 There's not much wood left back there 07:01:18.660 --> 07:01:19.500 It's got a couple of trees 07:01:19.500 --> 07:01:24.760 We said to be taking the wood in the center of the map and right now the center is being hotly contested by grubby 07:01:24.760 --> 07:01:30.160 You know sitting pretty attuned to pop gravity has kind of outmaneuvered pig in this late game. This is fantastic play from grubby 07:01:31.400 --> 07:01:36.720 Yeah, like you said, he's just taking advantage of the fact that he thinks he's a better player right? He's a favorite coming in here 07:01:36.840 --> 07:01:39.280 He's got amazing macro 50 on food 07:01:39.800 --> 07:01:43.640 Elephants are still coming out skirmes are still coming out. There's the bombard cannon mass 07:01:43.640 --> 07:01:48.400 We asked for and the castle forward did its job both castles forward did their job 07:01:49.000 --> 07:01:53.000 Grubby's pushing in and pig is down to 120 pop dude 07:01:53.000 --> 07:01:59.240 So many castles went down though. Grubby lost the castle, two pig castles went down. Grubby's got that insane push here with the cannons 07:01:59.640 --> 07:02:03.560 starting to really find his groove with this push, skirmish her elephant, still the composition. 07:02:04.040 --> 07:02:06.840 We were questioning if it was going to work or not, but so far 07:02:07.320 --> 07:02:10.840 it seems like Grubby wants to start that side push. He's got a lot more momentum down the center. 07:02:11.080 --> 07:02:16.360 120 pot for pig. It's more villagers as Dash was saying, but it's also more army. We just need more of everything right now. 07:02:16.360 --> 07:02:20.320 Yeah, Pig also just needs to back up and regroup, right? 07:02:20.320 --> 07:02:20.820 Yeah. 07:02:20.820 --> 07:02:24.560 He's feeling it slipping away, and he kind of keeps streaming these light cav in one 07:02:24.560 --> 07:02:25.060 at a time. 07:02:25.060 --> 07:02:27.120 He's not getting back up to any kind of a mask. 07:02:27.120 --> 07:02:32.320 She retreat under your castle, get back up to some kind of mask, make your last stab 07:02:32.320 --> 07:02:35.480 for the win right here, but instead, he's just getting pushed relentlessly here by 07:02:35.480 --> 07:02:36.480 Grubby. 07:02:36.480 --> 07:02:43.360 Yeah, dude, Grubby's got the- Is there an opportunity here for Pig? 07:02:43.360 --> 07:02:49.860 You won't really be thinking of it because you're gaming right now, but maybe for a snipe, it doesn't feel like it. 07:02:49.860 --> 07:02:57.060 Rebbe's got that vision all the way across the map. You can't even come forward for that YOLO last chance opportunity. 07:02:57.060 --> 07:02:59.560 I think you should go for it though. I don't even know where the king is. 07:02:59.560 --> 07:03:05.560 So he doesn't really know. He's actually got no vision of the castle even, but I think you know that it's going to be somewhere in the point in space. 07:03:05.560 --> 07:03:11.060 Most of the time, if no one really moves into the corner unless you're like IEukston or something, so that's where I'd be employed. 07:03:11.060 --> 07:03:14.500 but Gruby usually would death note come forward. 07:03:14.500 --> 07:03:16.220 Or death note in the center of the map of course. 07:03:16.220 --> 07:03:18.660 All your games lead from the front, okay? 07:03:18.660 --> 07:03:21.060 Yeah, death note, his team showed a lot of heart there, 07:03:21.060 --> 07:03:22.580 a lot of heart and courage. 07:03:22.580 --> 07:03:24.860 But I think Pig should go for it. 07:03:24.860 --> 07:03:26.380 It's kind of a misplaced to just lose 07:03:26.380 --> 07:03:28.020 on a redstone fortress, not even in an attempt, 07:03:28.020 --> 07:03:29.300 but let's see if he thinks about it. 07:03:29.300 --> 07:03:30.940 So far he's trying to hold on with some halves. 07:03:30.940 --> 07:03:33.380 Still a 120 pop, it's not terrible, 07:03:33.380 --> 07:03:36.460 but it's not a pretty situation for him for sure. 07:03:36.460 --> 07:03:38.860 He's gonna have no wood left soon too. 07:03:38.860 --> 07:03:43.100 It's just there's not a lot in that corner right another forward castle from grubby 07:03:43.100 --> 07:03:48.580 You're not letting up on the aggression military count is looking solid eco is looking fantastic 07:03:48.580 --> 07:03:54.480 And he's using his resources. It's so impressive, right? So many people would just sit here and bank rest 07:03:54.500 --> 07:03:59.620 Yeah, grubby is just sending in these units over and over and over again and pig is getting absolutely overwhelmed 07:03:59.620 --> 07:04:01.340 I know grubby is about to win 07:04:01.340 --> 07:04:06.780 But can we appreciate some of his woodlines and the number of steps that his villagers aren't getting in 07:04:06.780 --> 07:04:07.780 on Rally. 07:04:07.780 --> 07:04:08.780 I don't know. 07:04:08.780 --> 07:04:10.780 Those look like your woodline stash. 07:04:10.780 --> 07:04:11.780 No, bro! 07:04:11.780 --> 07:04:12.780 Come on! 07:04:12.780 --> 07:04:13.780 Yeah, you're right, though. 07:04:13.780 --> 07:04:14.780 Dude, get that cardio! 07:04:14.780 --> 07:04:15.780 My goodness. 07:04:15.780 --> 07:04:17.780 I like this one. 07:04:17.780 --> 07:04:21.780 The final tree has been cut on this lumber camp, but there's a lot more down here. 07:04:21.780 --> 07:04:23.780 Actually, maybe even closer distance. 07:04:23.780 --> 07:04:26.780 Fantastic callback there. 07:04:26.780 --> 07:04:30.780 And I think Light Cap from Pig. 07:04:30.780 --> 07:04:31.780 She's not the strongest unit. 07:04:31.780 --> 07:04:32.780 It's okay. 07:04:32.780 --> 07:04:36.160 armor upgrades on those lightcaps so actually maybe even the best unit on the 07:04:36.160 --> 07:04:39.620 field are these lightcaps because scrimmages do one damage against them 07:04:39.620 --> 07:04:43.520 wait wait hold on wait gravity could be throwing this game by the way the 07:04:43.520 --> 07:04:47.500 castle yeah he's actually getting cleared up yeah that house is not gonna go up 07:04:47.500 --> 07:04:51.940 scrimmages get cleared up no bombers in sights you know Halb's for the 07:04:51.940 --> 07:04:55.160 elephants gravity's got to be careful here because the lightcaps transition 07:04:55.160 --> 07:05:01.040 has been hot for pig yeah we'll get you for pig though transitions are such 07:05:01.040 --> 07:05:07.160 difficult aspect of this game right it's probably like the the most difficult thing to learn in HBMPars 2 and even 07:05:07.160 --> 07:05:11.720 pro players struggle with it when you see a new unit type come out on the field like this lightcab 07:05:11.720 --> 07:05:16.840 suddenly your skirmishers and bomber cannons are no longer that effective yeah so grubby has to make an 07:05:16.840 --> 07:05:21.240 adjustment and his adjustment right now is bro 52 bad elephants! 07:05:21.240 --> 07:05:26.240 insane amount of elephants if you just walk forward there's nothing that 07:05:26.240 --> 07:05:30.240 What's that pick and do about this? There's so many elephants in the field! 07:05:30.240 --> 07:05:34.240 Yeah, this is a patrol forward kind of moment here. 07:05:34.240 --> 07:05:38.240 It shows pretty good composure though by Grubby, like for a moment there it did look like it was slipping away, 07:05:38.240 --> 07:05:44.240 but he understood to take his foot off the gas for a moment and just get this mass back up. 07:05:44.240 --> 07:05:49.240 His opponent is running out of space, running out of resources, and pretty soon he won't be able to mount the defense. 07:05:49.240 --> 07:05:53.240 Grubby really wants a castle here. I don't know what he's being in this corner of the map, 07:05:53.240 --> 07:05:59.120 He's sending a more villagers. He really wants a castle here a big fight with the elephant that choke point is a choke point of held 07:05:59.120 --> 07:06:01.960 They don't want to funnel in elephants. There's so many halbs, bro 07:06:02.720 --> 07:06:08.760 How to be careful the other halbs? He's finally getting iron casting, but that's that last armor upgrade 07:06:09.000 --> 07:06:12.640 Missing that for the last 30 minutes. Yeah. Yeah, it's huge 07:06:12.640 --> 07:06:18.280 Dude, take my the losses game just on missing upgrades because the thing is like he's losing these halbs basically like twice as fast 07:06:18.280 --> 07:06:20.280 Missing those last two fierce armor stats 07:06:21.200 --> 07:06:23.200 Just not for him 07:06:23.240 --> 07:06:24.660 Rubby's losing a lot of bills. 07:06:26.160 --> 07:06:27.440 The raids are coming in from Pig. 07:06:27.700 --> 07:06:28.860 Oh, look at that. 07:06:28.860 --> 07:06:30.640 Yeah, it could be a way back in, right? 07:06:30.640 --> 07:06:34.600 If Grubby starts panicking and sends military back to his base. 07:06:34.640 --> 07:06:36.500 Elephant's going to deal with a leg-out. 07:06:36.700 --> 07:06:37.440 I love this. 07:06:37.940 --> 07:06:39.040 Oh, damn. Right after that. 07:06:39.040 --> 07:06:40.640 He replaced those wood lines, too. 07:06:40.800 --> 07:06:41.480 Yeah, true. 07:06:42.040 --> 07:06:43.840 He got punished for making them efficient, it seems. 07:06:44.140 --> 07:06:44.640 The king! 07:06:44.840 --> 07:06:45.340 The king! 07:06:45.540 --> 07:06:47.040 The elephants are near the king! 07:06:47.340 --> 07:06:48.140 Hold on! 07:06:49.100 --> 07:06:49.800 Hold on, dude! 07:06:49.800 --> 07:06:52.100 We never seen elephants snipe a king before! 07:06:52.100 --> 07:06:56.500 We've never seen them snipe a king and that we won't see it here. Okay, never mind 07:06:56.500 --> 07:07:00.560 How to clean up hold on though grubby has vision now grubby sees the king 07:07:00.980 --> 07:07:02.980 Then brought daylight and sitting in that tower 07:07:02.980 --> 07:07:07.840 We could see a little bit of a sneak attack with some elephants so far pick continues to hold 90 published for him 07:07:10.300 --> 07:07:17.260 Good good oh my good situation is not great and another line at the front side of his base. Oh my goodness. That's atrocious 07:07:18.420 --> 07:07:21.620 Yeah, they'll just going down to that castle now as a result 07:07:22.100 --> 07:07:30.100 This castle has got a lot of kills by the way, it's got 4 kills, actually not that much, but it's been controlling this side of the map for so long. 07:07:30.100 --> 07:07:32.100 I thought I had more before I looked. 07:07:32.100 --> 07:07:37.100 Dude, you're such a caster now, Hera. Welcome to the club, bro. 07:07:37.100 --> 07:07:40.100 I was like, how do I spin this? 07:07:40.100 --> 07:07:44.100 The thing is, I have so much power to just spin up a story. 07:07:44.100 --> 07:07:47.100 Half the people watching have never seen a game of Age of Unborn. 07:07:47.100 --> 07:07:49.100 I could be like, 4 kills is huge! 07:07:49.100 --> 07:07:52.100 huge castles usually have like zero, that's a crazy castle 07:07:52.100 --> 07:07:55.940 I'll admit my mistake, I said it too early, more elephants coming in though, more than 07:07:55.940 --> 07:08:00.340 four elephants guys, there's a lot of elephants 07:08:00.340 --> 07:08:01.340 a ton of elephants 07:08:01.340 --> 07:08:02.840 yeah I'd, I'd be more honest 07:08:02.840 --> 07:08:07.300 losing those villagers open pop space and he's still got 50 pop space for more elephants 07:08:07.300 --> 07:08:10.460 but his gold is lacking, the gold supplies are dwindling now 07:08:10.460 --> 07:08:15.060 this is the last elephant bush though, in terms of gold, he still has gold coming 07:08:15.060 --> 07:08:17.900 in slowly, he's got three relics, a little bit of gold still on the map 07:08:17.900 --> 07:08:20.500 but if somehow Pig can hold this Elven push, 07:08:20.500 --> 07:08:22.900 there's not much more coming in from Grubby. 07:08:22.900 --> 07:08:24.120 Oh, never mind. 07:08:24.120 --> 07:08:26.260 Well, there's a lot coming in from Pig, 07:08:26.260 --> 07:08:29.620 and it's a GG, so well played there from both of them. 07:08:29.620 --> 07:08:31.660 That was an impressive push from Pig, 07:08:31.660 --> 07:08:34.380 and great composure from Grubby to know that, like, 07:08:34.380 --> 07:08:37.220 just trust in his eco, and trust in his production. 07:08:38.100 --> 07:08:40.340 Yeah, I mean, you didn't see the Fate to Rio fall back 07:08:40.340 --> 07:08:42.380 for the Portuguese, so maybe Pig 07:08:42.380 --> 07:08:44.180 doesn't really know what that style 07:08:44.180 --> 07:08:45.420 could have helped him in this late game, 07:08:45.420 --> 07:08:46.860 but either way, really well played to Grubby, 07:08:46.860 --> 07:08:52.340 Let's get a GG in the chat guys, Grubby taking the first game, but I have to say, and I think 07:08:52.340 --> 07:08:56.980 as Cass this year we can all agree on this, Pig played damn impressive on this first game. 07:08:56.980 --> 07:09:00.420 He probably had a winning position at multiple points in this game, and I felt like with 07:09:00.420 --> 07:09:04.380 just a little bit of adjustments, maybe like forward production, some more upgrades coming 07:09:04.380 --> 07:09:08.300 in, maybe just a little bit more like tight army control, he could have easily won this 07:09:08.300 --> 07:09:11.540 first game, and so this is setting up for a nice series. 07:09:11.540 --> 07:09:18.760 100% I mean honestly, I think so much of it you could just tie to the lack of armor final armor upgrade on the halbs 07:09:18.760 --> 07:09:23.780 Right like he had a great composition for that kind of centralized push up the gut 07:09:23.860 --> 07:09:27.900 But then he just didn't he didn't bring it to its utmost power, right? 07:09:27.900 --> 07:09:31.860 And he sat underpowered for so long gave grabby that opportunity 07:09:32.380 --> 07:09:36.900 to mass up just a more powerful unit, you know in terms of resource cost to 07:09:36.900 --> 07:09:41.540 to power, you know, packed in the punch and he just kind of bulldozed them from there. 07:09:41.540 --> 07:09:46.580 Yeah, a great game one. We're going to take it to Pig's home map now as he lost game one. 07:09:46.580 --> 07:09:50.820 Remember, our home map picks are Arabia and Arena. Here's the thing about Pig. He has 07:09:50.820 --> 07:09:57.060 practiced a lot of Arena and he also plays meta-sives on it. His main sieve is Bohemians, 07:09:57.060 --> 07:10:01.460 whereas Grubby's got like Hindustani or Burgundians, which are also meta options. 07:10:01.460 --> 07:10:06.020 So this might be like the highest level and the closest series to pro-play that we've 07:10:06.020 --> 07:10:10.100 we've seen because like Captain Lance earlier brought a crazy good level, but he kind of 07:10:10.100 --> 07:10:11.660 plays an off meta style. 07:10:11.660 --> 07:10:15.180 Grubby and Pig both seem to be playing meta approaches in most games here. 07:10:15.180 --> 07:10:19.980 And if this goes to Arena, we might see Bohemians versus Burgundians, which is an absolute pro 07:10:19.980 --> 07:10:20.980 matchup. 07:10:20.980 --> 07:10:21.980 Like Dave, you've casted a lot of 4AV2. 07:10:21.980 --> 07:10:25.500 That's probably like the most popular matchup on Arena that we've seen over the years. 07:10:25.500 --> 07:10:26.500 Yeah. 07:10:26.500 --> 07:10:30.260 And if it's an interesting one too, because it feels like the Burgundians have a 07:10:30.260 --> 07:10:31.260 better eco. 07:10:31.260 --> 07:10:34.860 They're a little favored early, but then if it gets late, the Bohemians are 07:10:34.860 --> 07:10:38.200 are just really tough to deal with if you're Bergadians. 07:10:38.200 --> 07:10:39.400 But we can forget about all of that. 07:10:39.400 --> 07:10:42.040 Serious problems, because Berg has went for a radio. 07:10:42.040 --> 07:10:42.880 We're getting? 07:10:42.880 --> 07:10:44.600 I can't believe you went for a radio. 07:10:44.600 --> 07:10:46.480 That's cocky. 07:10:46.480 --> 07:10:48.400 Dude, you're an absolute caster now. 07:10:48.400 --> 07:10:52.440 Oh, man, I'm sending you the invitation in the mail, bro. 07:10:52.440 --> 07:10:53.680 You've joined the club. 07:10:53.680 --> 07:10:57.400 Speculation, talking about castles with four kills 07:10:57.400 --> 07:10:59.400 and how important it is. 07:10:59.400 --> 07:11:01.040 Maybe you shave your head next. 07:11:01.040 --> 07:11:03.560 Maybe you can join me up on the end. 07:11:03.560 --> 07:11:05.400 You don't have to be bald to be a caster. 07:11:05.400 --> 07:11:08.000 We have many non-bald casters, Dave. 07:11:08.000 --> 07:11:09.720 That's a different story. 07:11:09.720 --> 07:11:11.920 I don't know, I was gonna shave my head tomorrow. 07:11:11.920 --> 07:11:13.840 Dash, if you go for it, I'll join you. 07:11:13.840 --> 07:11:16.760 I've got a triple bald caster for you, bro. 07:11:16.760 --> 07:11:21.280 Dash, I love hair as hair, but as a bald man, 07:11:21.280 --> 07:11:23.400 I could not see you shaving your hair. 07:11:23.400 --> 07:11:25.160 Your hair is too beautiful, dude. 07:11:25.160 --> 07:11:27.000 You know, I've actually done it twice in my life 07:11:27.000 --> 07:11:29.000 for charity, so there were two different times 07:11:29.000 --> 07:11:31.120 in my life that I was completely bald. 07:11:31.120 --> 07:11:38.760 I can't even imagine that honestly. I'm just thinking of the last time I see I seen you like I can't imagine a bald dash 07:11:38.760 --> 07:11:43.440 I will say though I can we have to start matching a bald hair of that hairline is receding a little bit 07:11:43.440 --> 07:11:45.440 They're already calling me the Yamato hairline 07:11:46.680 --> 07:11:51.080 I'm kind of coping and saying you know a matters hairline's worse, but I think the chats on 07:11:51.560 --> 07:11:54.640 Somewhat of a trajectory there. They kind of got a point 07:11:54.640 --> 07:11:59.760 Okay, so we're going to Arabia. 07:11:59.760 --> 07:12:01.060 Arabia, yeah. 07:12:01.060 --> 07:12:02.560 SIVs? 07:12:02.560 --> 07:12:04.060 We don't know. 07:12:04.060 --> 07:12:05.060 We don't know. 07:12:05.060 --> 07:12:06.060 They haven't started yet. 07:12:06.060 --> 07:12:09.060 What do you think? 07:12:09.060 --> 07:12:14.320 I think I'm going to look for the thingy on the dashboard, and I can't find it. 07:12:14.320 --> 07:12:15.320 Hold on. 07:12:15.320 --> 07:12:16.320 Here we go. 07:12:16.320 --> 07:12:17.320 They haven't started. 07:12:17.320 --> 07:12:24.080 As far as thinking about SIVs on Arabia, I think we've seen Vietnamese from Pig multiple 07:12:24.080 --> 07:12:28.640 times. So I would say probably Vietnamese from Pig. Grubby has a lot of civilizations. 07:12:28.640 --> 07:12:34.080 He's got the Purgunions, but he might save them for Arena. He's got, I think he played 07:12:34.080 --> 07:12:39.920 a little bit of Mongols on Arabia. He played Way, Mongols, a lot of Ethiopians. 07:12:39.920 --> 07:12:45.040 A lot of Ethiopians. They've hosted the lobby right now. I think the smartest is the Way, 07:12:45.040 --> 07:12:48.480 because Way is not something you want to really use on Arena. Although they're a great 07:12:48.480 --> 07:12:52.160 Arena-sive, he hasn't practiced them on Arena. So I think probably in Grubby's 07:12:52.160 --> 07:12:55.560 way makes sense and I think Vietnamese for Pig is like the number one pick. 07:12:55.560 --> 07:12:59.080 I'm not sure what they're gonna go for though. At the end of the day, they could 07:12:59.080 --> 07:13:02.920 just be bringing something completely new to the table. 07:13:02.920 --> 07:13:07.840 Did they both get coached by Foster? I know Grubby did. Did Pig get coached by 07:13:07.840 --> 07:13:12.520 him as well? Yes a little bit but it was basically just like one session with 07:13:12.520 --> 07:13:15.760 Bulgarians and it seemed more like they were just messing around than it was 07:13:15.760 --> 07:13:20.080 like anything serious for the tournaments. So I'm not sure if he's gonna be 07:13:20.080 --> 07:13:23.920 pulling that out and probably, you know, the biggest set of pigs, uh, competitive 07:13:23.920 --> 07:13:25.760 AVG career against Grubby here. 07:13:30.880 --> 07:13:32.160 What would you go for, Dash? 07:13:33.280 --> 07:13:34.320 Vietnamese comfort pick. 07:13:34.880 --> 07:13:35.200 Okay. 07:13:35.920 --> 07:13:41.040 I think Vietnamese is just a very well-rounded, uh, sieve in terms of options at this level. 07:13:41.040 --> 07:13:45.600 I think knowing where your opponent is is just a super valuable, um, you know, 07:13:45.600 --> 07:13:48.560 knowing exactly where to send your scout to get that information. 07:13:48.560 --> 07:13:52.240 You've just lost your scout to the TC too many times, bro. 07:13:52.240 --> 07:13:53.080 You just- 07:13:53.080 --> 07:13:55.640 I mean, I'm not the same boat. 07:13:55.640 --> 07:13:56.480 I'm the same boat. 07:13:56.480 --> 07:14:00.160 100%, but it's just so like, to remove just, 07:14:00.160 --> 07:14:03.000 I think at this level, like one of the best things you can do, 07:14:03.000 --> 07:14:04.320 especially in like tournament play, 07:14:04.320 --> 07:14:05.400 even more than like ladder play, 07:14:05.400 --> 07:14:08.640 is just like remove the like simple mistakes 07:14:08.640 --> 07:14:10.280 that you know, like the, 07:14:10.280 --> 07:14:13.120 those ways that you can pretty much lose a game, 07:14:13.120 --> 07:14:15.880 you know, and one of those ways is to lose your scout 07:14:15.880 --> 07:14:17.400 early to an opponent's TC. 07:14:17.400 --> 07:14:19.000 So I think Vietnamese is incredible. 07:14:19.000 --> 07:14:23.300 But I also think one of the reasons why Vietnamese is incredible is because Imperial Skirmisher 07:14:23.800 --> 07:14:25.200 is just an insane unit. 07:14:25.400 --> 07:14:29.700 And a lot of these games can drag out to an insane length. 07:14:29.700 --> 07:14:33.000 I mean, even this one was starting, the game we just watched was starting to drag out, right? 07:14:33.000 --> 07:14:38.100 And if you can fall back on just like a very basic unit that you can create without gold, 07:14:38.100 --> 07:14:39.200 that is super strong. 07:14:39.200 --> 07:14:41.200 It has a lot of value. 07:14:41.800 --> 07:14:46.700 Guys, they're in its way versus Wu and Grubby paused the game immediately 07:14:46.700 --> 07:14:50.540 and said, hang on a second, can I read your sieve? 07:14:50.540 --> 07:14:52.160 He's in the tech tree right now. 07:14:52.160 --> 07:14:57.160 It's actually something that Grubby asked of me earlier. 07:14:57.340 --> 07:15:00.280 Like he told me, listen, if we need a minute 07:15:00.280 --> 07:15:03.060 to just read the opponent civilization, is that possible? 07:15:03.060 --> 07:15:04.240 And I was like, sure Grubby, 07:15:04.240 --> 07:15:06.200 you can have a minute to read your opponent civilization. 07:15:06.200 --> 07:15:08.360 It's actually available to everyone. 07:15:08.360 --> 07:15:11.280 I know there's some Grubby stuff flying around, 07:15:11.280 --> 07:15:12.720 but no, anyone can do this. 07:15:12.720 --> 07:15:14.680 And Grubby's never even heard of the woo, 07:15:14.680 --> 07:15:15.680 let alone played against them. 07:15:15.680 --> 07:15:18.520 I'm actually not sure why Pig has gone for the woo. 07:15:18.520 --> 07:15:19.920 I'm never even gonna play it. 07:15:19.920 --> 07:15:21.600 This is maybe a cooked up strat. 07:15:21.600 --> 07:15:23.260 Maybe just some like anti meta. 07:15:23.260 --> 07:15:25.520 They also throw Grubby's way, but either way. 07:15:25.520 --> 07:15:27.800 Grubby walking the way himself, 07:15:27.800 --> 07:15:29.240 tried and tested Siv of course, 07:15:29.240 --> 07:15:32.040 and Pig with something a little out there, for sure. 07:15:35.600 --> 07:15:38.800 So with like, Wu is a pretty decent Siv 07:15:38.800 --> 07:15:40.480 if you're gonna go infantry into archers. 07:15:40.480 --> 07:15:41.720 I don't know if that's gonna be his play 07:15:41.720 --> 07:15:44.200 or if he just even plays archers that's decent. 07:15:44.200 --> 07:15:46.200 Still decent with Capri as well. 07:15:46.200 --> 07:15:51.200 Grubby says, fun fact, Wei Wu, Wei Wu, Wei Wu equals ambulance. 07:15:53.200 --> 07:15:55.200 What is Grubby on about? 07:16:00.200 --> 07:16:05.200 Also, Pig with a little AVT trash talk weighs the looser version, okay? 07:16:05.200 --> 07:16:09.200 And then spamming some taunts there, but it looks like they're both gonna get started here. 07:16:09.200 --> 07:16:15.780 And let's see what Pig has in store for us with the Wu. I think that's definitely an out out of the box civilization 07:16:15.780 --> 07:16:17.780 Let me just make sure the cams are correct as well here 07:16:18.100 --> 07:16:20.100 They aren't nice 07:16:20.140 --> 07:16:24.660 Son of bad sip though, I spit it might catch your opponent off guard right because grubby 07:16:24.660 --> 07:16:27.820 I don't know how often he played against Wu on Arabia and the latter 07:16:28.420 --> 07:16:31.900 Yeah, probably the few times and yeah, it could actually be never 07:16:31.900 --> 07:16:35.460 I don't know if you have the stats on that but like at most a few times me like a handful and 07:16:35.460 --> 07:16:40.460 It's a decent sieve, so let's talk a little bit about the woo for the chat here. 07:16:40.460 --> 07:16:48.460 A lot of people here might not be too familiar with the sieve, as it is a DLC sieve come out like a year and something ago in the same DLC as the way, but the way it's been played a little bit more. 07:16:48.460 --> 07:16:55.460 There was an infantry based sieve that also has some decent early game archer play and has overall OK cavalry as well. 07:16:55.460 --> 07:16:59.460 So expect most the infantry, the infantry heals throughout the ages. 07:16:59.460 --> 07:17:03.460 It heals a bit more as they advance through feudal age, castage and imperial age. 07:17:03.460 --> 07:17:08.200 They also have some really good options in terms of fire archers from the castle if that unit does hit the field 07:17:08.200 --> 07:17:12.780 I'll explain a little bit more about what that does but dash what do you make of pigs kind of off-medicive 07:17:12.980 --> 07:17:17.060 Is that something you're excited to see from him as the underdog or do you feel like it doesn't how well 07:17:17.060 --> 07:17:22.100 I played in the first game. Maybe just plays as comfort zoning spine, you know just taking the match head on to grubby 07:17:22.700 --> 07:17:27.000 Yeah, I mean I'm cool with it, you know, I'm fine with throwing a bit of a wild card 07:17:27.000 --> 07:17:31.420 I think the question is what which of two strategies will he go for is it going to be? 07:17:31.420 --> 07:17:38.060 like some kind of a phosphoru fast castle into fire archer and I'm just going to try and kill you in 07:17:38.060 --> 07:17:46.140 castle edge with fire archers or more likely just Jon Swordsman spam and does you know Grubby have 07:17:46.140 --> 07:17:52.340 much experience going up against just kind of a ridiculous infantry unit spam that also regenerates. 07:17:52.340 --> 07:18:00.180 It requires better unit control from Pig ultimately but I mean I'm excited for it. I question 07:18:00.180 --> 07:18:03.420 again whether or not he's going to be very successful with it. Looking at Grubby's map 07:18:03.420 --> 07:18:06.680 and the way that he's already approaching Walling, I think Grubby's going to be pretty 07:18:06.680 --> 07:18:07.680 safe here. 07:18:07.680 --> 07:18:11.460 Yeah, and Grubby has just paused for the tech tree. So like when you got one minute with 07:18:11.460 --> 07:18:15.740 the tech tree, you're reading the bonus, you know, the bonuses that come alongside 07:18:15.740 --> 07:18:20.100 Glucy. He kind of understands it's an infantry base, but I don't think he's read much 07:18:20.100 --> 07:18:22.420 about the Janss swordsman because that's a unique. 07:18:22.420 --> 07:18:23.420 Yeah, did he notice it? 07:18:23.420 --> 07:18:24.420 The woo. 07:18:24.420 --> 07:18:26.420 Did he see it in the barracks? That's the question. 07:18:26.420 --> 07:18:27.420 Yeah. 07:18:27.420 --> 07:18:30.920 That's a kind of a cornerstone of the woods strategy 07:18:30.920 --> 07:18:36.400 So let's see how grabby adapts to this game here as he just continues to learn boards and beers go by his regular dark 07:18:36.400 --> 07:18:38.400 It's not sort of on gold though interesting 07:18:41.300 --> 07:18:43.580 Yeah, what is he gonna man and arms 07:18:45.760 --> 07:18:48.160 Let's just take he was just out there he just 07:18:50.060 --> 07:18:53.060 Wow, that's efficiency that's peak efficiency right there 07:18:53.060 --> 07:18:59.640 It's picking up 10 gold that's kind of fun actually that opens up some crazy strategies like he can now go like three militia 07:18:59.960 --> 07:19:03.160 Without making a mining camp if you want to he can also 07:19:03.840 --> 07:19:06.820 Okay, not much more than that, but you know 10 gold is 10 gold 07:19:07.740 --> 07:19:14.940 Another cast a moment for you Dave. There you go. It is an absolutely crazy strat dude. We only saw it for 20 straight years 07:19:16.940 --> 07:19:20.580 It's been sought out of the meta though actually it's like all the people doing it house 07:19:20.580 --> 07:19:24.580 Yeah, OG strat. Still respect for the OGs though. 07:19:24.580 --> 07:19:27.580 I mean, it's pink learning and some deer, yeah both players are learning some deer. 07:19:27.580 --> 07:19:30.580 You can tell a little bit more what they're going to go for based on the uptime's grubby, 07:19:30.580 --> 07:19:32.580 with a standard 19-pop uptime. 07:19:32.580 --> 07:19:36.580 That seems like it's going to be a scout rush, especially since we see the mill. 07:19:36.580 --> 07:19:39.580 It could also be a spear, it could also be an archer opening, 07:19:39.580 --> 07:19:43.580 but very likely to be a scout opening for the grubs that are here. 07:19:44.580 --> 07:19:48.580 It's a nice early build for both players, very, very smooth. 07:19:48.580 --> 07:19:54.700 smooth. Yeah good job pushing in the deer. Yeah and kind of limited idle TC 07:19:54.700 --> 07:19:57.940 actually grab you a 13 seconds of idle TC a little bit inefficient there but you 07:19:57.940 --> 07:20:01.020 know picks on a good job keeping that in the single digits. The ones you're going 07:20:01.020 --> 07:20:04.340 out here is that a Barracks Builder? That's a Barracks Builder. Oh it is! 07:20:04.340 --> 07:20:08.080 That's gonna be Miner Arms I think. That's a Miner Arm timing. Barracks 07:20:08.080 --> 07:20:10.140 they're even a little late for Miner Arm timing. Let's see if it's gonna 07:20:10.140 --> 07:20:14.020 commit to it. I think he should. Woo with the healing Miner Arms are very 07:20:14.020 --> 07:20:17.780 very solid. It's not quite as powerful as the Romans that we've seen but 07:20:17.780 --> 07:20:19.940 But it is a little bit more hidden than the Romans. 07:20:19.940 --> 07:20:22.660 Romans is like the most obvious men-at-arm rush on the planet. 07:20:22.660 --> 07:20:24.220 Whereas the Wu, you know, 07:20:24.220 --> 07:20:25.940 Grubby might not be too prepared for it, 07:20:25.940 --> 07:20:27.420 although judging by the walls, 07:20:27.420 --> 07:20:28.260 I think it was you, Daphne, 07:20:28.260 --> 07:20:30.100 that mentioned it, pretty good setup here 07:20:30.100 --> 07:20:31.860 to defending his early infantry. 07:20:32.820 --> 07:20:34.020 The way the map's set up, 07:20:34.020 --> 07:20:35.780 there's a solid chance the pig runs 07:20:35.780 --> 07:20:37.380 right into the TC from Grubby. 07:20:40.700 --> 07:20:42.020 Should have gone Vietnamese. 07:20:42.020 --> 07:20:43.500 He's still got, if he's going men-at-arms, 07:20:43.500 --> 07:20:45.700 he has to find him quick, and he is. 07:20:45.700 --> 07:21:00.340 Yeah, he is going he is going militia. Oh, he's going to go. Oh, no, Dave. Oh, okay. Not too bad. Okay, doesn't take too much damage. Let's go, dude. He's beginning to believe dodging bullets did. 07:21:01.540 --> 07:21:05.140 Yeah, we have already here, Hera failed. 07:21:06.100 --> 07:21:07.380 And I know where it's casting moment. 07:21:09.700 --> 07:21:15.380 Three militia. I mean, pig. Okay, so go for the middle arm. Sorry. Go ahead, dash. I would just where do you where do you 07:21:15.700 --> 07:21:20.260 Even attack now with these man arms. Look at the walling from Grubby. I mean you're just going to be hitting a wall at this point 07:21:20.740 --> 07:21:27.620 Yeah, uh great walls and great defensive structure here from Grubby that gates a little strange because it's kind of walling out his own gold 07:21:27.620 --> 07:21:29.620 But it's not really too concerned about it for now 07:21:29.700 --> 07:21:31.220 It's likely to open with that stable 07:21:31.220 --> 07:21:36.020 But you don't have to go in if you like you already forced these walls you have them you have the meta arms 07:21:36.180 --> 07:21:40.020 You can just hit a wall downhill and just force your repair and that's like okay damage 07:21:40.100 --> 07:21:43.860 You could also just try to run through if you've got the uh, you know 07:21:43.860 --> 07:21:45.860 wall then 07:21:46.300 --> 07:21:48.300 You wanted to wall 07:21:48.740 --> 07:21:53.860 Nice try to flex on him man, but pigs too quick. He's too fast 07:21:53.860 --> 07:21:57.820 He's watching this scout great job from pig and things like this can add up right? 07:21:57.820 --> 07:22:01.060 It's just really annoying. Yeah grubby to have this scout running around on the hill 07:22:01.260 --> 07:22:05.300 Dude, how crazy would it be to distract with the scouts run straight into the men arms? 07:22:05.980 --> 07:22:08.300 That's a high-level play, but we could see it come in 07:22:08.300 --> 07:22:14.300 Ah, Grubby's aware though, he's tracking his man-at-arms, extra wall going up near the gold. 07:22:14.300 --> 07:22:18.300 Yeah, really hard to break in. Some punishment onto that scout as well from the Villager. 07:22:18.300 --> 07:22:22.300 Nice job from Pig, trying to split the damage, but Grubby, get with those quick walls. 07:22:22.300 --> 07:22:26.300 He's got double bid ex-in now, no horse call, there's only one Villager extra four ways. 07:22:26.300 --> 07:22:29.300 Remember, you need to pick up the eco-upgrades to get to extra villagers. 07:22:29.300 --> 07:22:34.300 Now, through all this though, I mean Pig's built a 300 resource collected lead, 07:22:34.300 --> 07:22:38.560 a lead. A lot of people are going to look at this and go, oh no damage done, the walls 07:22:38.560 --> 07:22:42.620 are up, but at the end of the day all the time that these villagers have spent walling, chasing 07:22:42.620 --> 07:22:47.760 that scout around, repairing this house, that's resource advantage for Pig. So let's see what 07:22:47.760 --> 07:22:48.760 he can make of it. 07:22:48.760 --> 07:22:49.760 Oh my god. 07:22:49.760 --> 07:22:53.040 The thing with Woo is like, he can just outheal this too. 07:22:53.040 --> 07:22:57.080 Yes, that's true. He can just take some damage, force it out of time and just wait. 07:22:57.080 --> 07:23:01.040 Sorry, I was just shocked to see this. There's a market coming up for Pig. He's 07:23:01.040 --> 07:23:02.800 He's gonna go for the Jan Swordsman follow-up. 07:23:02.800 --> 07:23:03.640 Wow! 07:23:03.640 --> 07:23:04.960 That's really good level. 07:23:04.960 --> 07:23:05.920 That's insane. 07:23:06.900 --> 07:23:10.640 Men at arms into Jon Swordsman with that timing is crazy. 07:23:10.640 --> 07:23:12.160 If he can hit the timing, 07:23:12.160 --> 07:23:14.320 you can see him trying to get that food. 07:23:14.320 --> 07:23:15.760 He doesn't have enough yet. 07:23:15.760 --> 07:23:17.000 He's got five on food right now. 07:23:17.000 --> 07:23:18.600 He's gonna have to sell his stone 07:23:18.600 --> 07:23:21.760 and then buy extra food and he's still idle in his TC. 07:23:21.760 --> 07:23:22.600 Delete the blacksmith, 07:23:22.600 --> 07:23:25.160 use the wood for farms right now. 07:23:25.160 --> 07:23:28.200 Well, he needs the blacksmith to go up, right? 07:23:28.200 --> 07:23:29.440 I think he still wants to get that timing. 07:23:29.440 --> 07:23:30.600 You're still far food-wise. 07:23:30.600 --> 07:23:35.560 You should be investing that money into farms now and then build the blacksmith when you actually 07:23:35.560 --> 07:23:39.400 had it because he's nowhere close to the food resources if he wants to continue producing bills. 07:23:39.400 --> 07:23:43.000 I agree with you, Dash. Also, if you just rush to Castle J, like three farms, you can't 07:23:43.000 --> 07:23:46.760 make the Gen Swordsman anyway, so take a little bit of time, eight farms, chill a bit, maybe 07:23:46.760 --> 07:23:51.400 a few walls even, and then just naturally like blacksmith later, go up a little later, 07:23:51.400 --> 07:23:55.080 but have that economy to sustain yourself. He's got to kind of turbo in though, 07:23:55.080 --> 07:23:57.160 but he needs the blacksmith to be made, not just the foundation. 07:23:57.160 --> 07:24:00.200 I mean, he's going to forget. Yeah, he's going to forget that it's out there. 07:24:00.200 --> 07:24:04.660 He probably missed the shift cue there with the blacksmith. That's unfortunate for big 07:24:05.060 --> 07:24:11.320 Hopefully he can kind of figure that out but he'll get it's her bowing towards the castle edge and grubby is the kind of guy that likes to stay defensive 07:24:12.360 --> 07:24:15.280 Is he the kind of got a counter attack got three archers going across the map? 07:24:15.280 --> 07:24:19.040 But he sees the man arms back in his vision. Does he go back or does he stick to the counter attack? 07:24:19.240 --> 07:24:21.880 Looks like he's sticking to the counter attack, which is the right call here 07:24:22.720 --> 07:24:26.120 He's sending a villager up there to try and repair that house that is ambitious 07:24:26.120 --> 07:24:28.120 from that Bill. 07:24:28.120 --> 07:24:30.120 Ambitious play from Grubby. 07:24:30.120 --> 07:24:33.120 Yeah, Piggy, I don't want to get the resources, 07:24:33.120 --> 07:24:36.120 and now he realizes that the Blastman doesn't kill. 07:24:36.120 --> 07:24:39.120 Oh God. Yeah, he can click up with the Blast that's needed. 07:24:39.120 --> 07:24:41.120 Meanwhile though, Piggy is trying to trap this Grubby villager 07:24:41.120 --> 07:24:43.120 Grubby's running. He's walking with the archer. 07:24:43.120 --> 07:24:45.120 Great play from Grubby to survive that. 07:24:45.120 --> 07:24:47.120 There's another villager. Quick wall, quick wall. 07:24:47.120 --> 07:24:50.120 Ah, he failed it. He failed it. He's got to run. 07:24:50.120 --> 07:24:53.120 Builder kills? He's going to save her too. 07:24:53.120 --> 07:24:59.640 I like that he pulled them away initially and didn't dive in for that villager. 07:24:59.640 --> 07:25:03.200 A lot of players would try and get that but he can just heal up over time. 07:25:03.200 --> 07:25:04.840 He's gonna go take up that house again. 07:25:04.840 --> 07:25:07.960 Grabby's gonna be housed here so damage is being done by Pig. 07:25:07.960 --> 07:25:08.960 Wow. 07:25:08.960 --> 07:25:09.960 Which is not at arms. 07:25:09.960 --> 07:25:12.560 But the counterattack has landed, flushing in 20 seconds guys. 07:25:12.560 --> 07:25:13.560 Three archers for Grabby. 07:25:13.560 --> 07:25:14.560 There's refills there. 07:25:14.560 --> 07:25:18.160 No tower because we stole the stone, no units because we're going fast castle and 07:25:18.160 --> 07:25:19.160 the villager is being pulled. 07:25:19.160 --> 07:25:22.480 One villager already going down and Grabby's got some clean micro here, hit and run 07:25:22.480 --> 07:25:24.680 The villagers cannot catch these archers watching then 07:25:26.680 --> 07:25:33.860 Down at least we're going down here. It's around the fire by grubby to yeah to the archers do go down to the bills 07:25:33.860 --> 07:25:40.560 So that's decent. Yeah, threeville kills. I mean three. Look away grubby side. Oh, there's villager kills. Oh my god 07:25:40.560 --> 07:25:42.400 Yeah, that's that's not good 07:25:42.400 --> 07:25:46.760 No kills so far, but three villagers running for the hills you could kind of turn around and fight 07:25:46.760 --> 07:25:50.440 He's gonna show the quick wall. I think grubby's kind of overdoing it with the quick wall 07:25:50.440 --> 07:25:56.440 Also, just turning around and fighting is probably better, trying to body block a little bit, but Pig is doing really well, doesn't take the bait, look at this! 07:25:59.440 --> 07:26:04.440 Splits the Men at Arms, still looking for that first Villager kill, regardless, still a lot of idle time forced. 07:26:05.440 --> 07:26:10.440 This is going to be a very old Krabby Block, the Men at Arms with the Villager in the back. 07:26:11.440 --> 07:26:14.440 He's going to save that one, he can't save the other one, but this is going to be a rude awakening for Grubby. 07:26:14.440 --> 07:26:20.040 for Grubby. When three Barracks, Jon Swordsman show up immediately and they can just sit under his TC 07:26:20.040 --> 07:26:23.680 and keep killing these villagers. This is going to be very difficult for him. 07:26:23.680 --> 07:26:28.600 Yeah, the Men of Armour value has been unreal for paper. In fact, he's still got one of those alive. 07:26:28.600 --> 07:26:31.120 It's just been insane. Let's talk a little bit about the Jon Swordsman though, 07:26:31.120 --> 07:26:33.920 because we've got a lot of viewers that are wondering, one of the cast is talking about, 07:26:33.920 --> 07:26:37.720 what is this Jon Swordsman unit? It's a unique unit for the Wu and it's super tanky. 07:26:37.720 --> 07:26:41.400 Think of the Goth Huskroll. It's got like a mini Huskroll. It's got a lot of Pierce Armor. 07:26:41.400 --> 07:26:47.680 They take one damage from like every projectile in the game. It's it's really insane at least anything that grubby can field 07:26:48.360 --> 07:26:49.640 So they're super tanky 07:26:49.640 --> 07:26:52.140 They're quite strong and you don't need an upgrade for them 07:26:52.140 --> 07:26:57.400 It has come straight out of the barracks and we got a triple barrack Jen Swarzen all in now the fact that he's going forward 07:26:57.640 --> 07:27:03.720 Is insane never forward villager as well as an all-in three back Jen Swarzen forward sees workshop pig is going for the kill 07:27:03.720 --> 07:27:10.480 This is crazy. This is sick. This is a really good play from pig because I think you're kind of taking advantage of 07:27:10.480 --> 07:27:15.360 grubby's defensive nature. Yeah. Like grubby's gonna stay home with these archers. He's probably 07:27:15.360 --> 07:27:21.360 gonna want to play into eco upgrades and then John Raiders as well from the archer range. 07:27:21.360 --> 07:27:27.200 Oh, and workshop and monastery. This this will cook that strategy from grubby if pig doesn't 07:27:27.200 --> 07:27:31.920 toss his units away immediately. Dude, this is high level. This is really very high level. 07:27:31.920 --> 07:27:35.920 John Swordsman for those of you at home who don't know they have five of Pierce Armor 07:27:35.920 --> 07:27:39.760 innately. So before any upgrades come in, these things already have five Pierce Armor. 07:27:39.760 --> 07:27:46.780 Those feudal edge archers right now are doing five total damage, which means they're only going to do one damage a hit to these Jon swordsmen 07:27:47.860 --> 07:27:49.860 Dude men arms 07:27:50.380 --> 07:27:54.340 This is crazy hole. Yeah hole through the wood. The value for them is insane 07:27:54.900 --> 07:27:58.080 Kill a villager force all the villagers back grab a some remake a lumber camp 07:27:58.080 --> 07:28:03.240 This is not even the main sign of pig those men arms are in overtime right now getting extra value that no one can even 07:28:03.440 --> 07:28:07.920 Imagine that they'd find grab me now full fully wall is base closes the gap get in the front 07:28:07.920 --> 07:28:11.460 But he's got no clue. There's a seed workshop modesty push right outside his base 07:28:11.580 --> 07:28:15.880 Grubby clue this is my goodness a rude awakening 07:28:25.480 --> 07:28:28.460 He's in maybe grubby house walls behind 07:28:29.840 --> 07:28:35.480 Got that shift I think there's no hole. I think there's no hole behind that house. No and the wood line 07:28:35.480 --> 07:28:42.480 Honestly, on a hill maybe? I don't think so though, but you never know man. Those holes can be sneaky. 07:28:42.480 --> 07:28:44.480 Get on the front please, good girl. 07:28:44.480 --> 07:28:48.480 You know, sniped a vill in the front, on that gate as she was trying to put it up. 07:28:48.480 --> 07:28:50.480 There's a hole! Nope! 07:28:50.480 --> 07:28:57.480 Gave me the damage. I was like, no dash is right, but I'm wrong. I have to try to spin this, you know? 07:28:57.480 --> 07:29:03.000 pressure onto the T.C. though here grubby already feeling forced to put up a 07:29:03.000 --> 07:29:07.400 tower on the backside to protect his gold now going to try and force up a siege 07:29:07.400 --> 07:29:11.600 workshop of his own in defense he does have a monastery so first month coming 07:29:11.600 --> 07:29:16.400 onto the field don't know if he's gonna reach for redemption they don't even have a redemption 07:29:16.400 --> 07:29:20.700 Jon Swordsman he could just run in yeah I agree I agree you don't have to 07:29:20.700 --> 07:29:24.540 with the manganals you can just run in manganals we cook on the T.C. hitting 07:29:24.540 --> 07:29:26.840 the house it's not needed we have a lot of pure summer we don't have to 07:29:26.840 --> 07:29:30.320 respect his talent at all pig it seems like a great strategy but he doesn't 07:29:30.320 --> 07:29:34.240 really understand how good it really is giving grubby a lot of time here for no 07:29:34.240 --> 07:29:44.560 reason oh he's pulling away from one monk man too much respect yeah it is the 07:29:44.560 --> 07:29:47.000 name though it is that you know you're up against the seed one of the tournament 07:29:47.000 --> 07:29:50.400 maybe according to many players at least from the rank ladder and just want to 07:29:50.400 --> 07:29:53.680 play it safe and whatnot but sometimes you had to go in it's only one 07:29:53.680 --> 07:29:59.280 We got you know doesn't plus Jen swordsman to Megan else this one monk is nothing in comparison to this army 07:29:59.680 --> 07:30:02.880 Let's go in go go go go go 07:30:05.400 --> 07:30:09.560 Scream a lot or he'll hear you. Oh my goodness too much now though one 07:30:10.560 --> 07:30:12.560 tracking the manganelle 07:30:13.360 --> 07:30:18.680 He did it looks like he sees it now my god. Oh my god rate first hit there from grubby 07:30:18.680 --> 07:30:24.460 Good attack round. Oh, did this man get off now he goes has encouraged him keep going keep going 07:30:24.460 --> 07:30:28.180 Oh my goodness the man on courage and he's had and now it's there's no stop 07:30:28.180 --> 07:30:33.540 He's in on the woodland to new yeah, this is crazy. This is a complete GG grubby's got nothing against this guy's 07:30:33.540 --> 07:30:38.060 Megan all comes out. It's gonna get taken down a shot kind of whiffs monk goes down no conversion 07:30:38.060 --> 07:30:40.400 It's one gen sort of it. This is a dozen of them 07:30:40.400 --> 07:30:45.740 This is a complete domination for pig the TC got un-Garrisons and the Jensen will win this game for sure 07:30:45.740 --> 07:30:46.740 Wow. 07:30:46.740 --> 07:30:47.740 Holy. 07:30:47.740 --> 07:30:48.740 Wow. 07:30:48.740 --> 07:30:51.340 Somebody call that ambulance for Grubby, man. 07:30:51.340 --> 07:30:52.980 He just got absolutely wrecked. 07:30:52.980 --> 07:30:55.460 He's going to need to fast track to the emergency room. 07:30:55.460 --> 07:30:56.460 Oh, my God. 07:30:56.460 --> 07:30:57.460 That was crazy. 07:30:57.460 --> 07:30:58.460 What a strategy from Pig. 07:30:58.460 --> 07:30:59.460 So high-level. 07:30:59.460 --> 07:31:00.460 Yeah, absolutely. 07:31:00.460 --> 07:31:01.460 So high-level. 07:31:01.460 --> 07:31:05.780 Like, when I saw the market, I was like, oh, my God, he's going to do the Jan Swordsman. 07:31:05.780 --> 07:31:10.460 And of course, Grubby, he, one minute to check the tech tree, not enough to really 07:31:10.460 --> 07:31:13.460 come up with a game plan to counter the Jan Swordsman. 07:31:13.460 --> 07:31:14.460 Beautiful, beautiful play from Pig. 07:31:14.460 --> 07:31:19.460 E-class is the score and considering he almost had that game one, dude, this series is anybody's game. 07:31:21.460 --> 07:31:25.960 Absolutely. I mean, great Castle Age timing too, even with some of those eco-mistakes, right? 07:31:25.960 --> 07:31:32.460 Like the eco-mismanagement, the blacksmith that's not there for a while, he still beat Grubby to the Castle Age by three minutes. 07:31:32.460 --> 07:31:35.460 Gave him so much time to set up that push. 07:31:35.460 --> 07:31:41.960 Does finally get enticed into the base by the existence of that Manganel from Grubby. 07:31:41.960 --> 07:31:42.960 Yeah, that was... 07:31:42.960 --> 07:31:46.520 knows it would have been better never building a manganale. I don't know. 07:31:47.800 --> 07:31:51.040 And pick as he's running in, because of how good the run in was, he's probably 07:31:51.040 --> 07:31:55.400 like, man, I couldn't stand this like three minutes ago. And yeah, yeah. 07:31:55.960 --> 07:31:59.120 The chat saying call grubby. He's crying guys. Guys, I'm a pastor now. 07:31:59.120 --> 07:32:01.720 I coached grubby like a thousand hours during the ladder race. 07:32:01.720 --> 07:32:05.480 But right now he is beyond my help. And I do don't don't get me wrong. 07:32:05.480 --> 07:32:08.520 I'd love to just hop in small call and give him some tips based on his 07:32:08.520 --> 07:32:10.240 own. See what he can do to recover here. 07:32:10.240 --> 07:32:14.120 I don't know about you guys, but it kind of feels like 07:32:14.120 --> 07:32:18.000 Pig's got a really good grasp on the two Sivs that he's played so far. 07:32:18.000 --> 07:32:19.840 Like he knew what he needed to do with Portuguese. 07:32:19.840 --> 07:32:21.320 He knew what he needed to do with Wu. 07:32:21.320 --> 07:32:25.800 And he's also got a great grasp on the tendencies of his opponent as well. 07:32:25.800 --> 07:32:29.080 He's really exploiting like the passiveness of Grubby. 07:32:29.080 --> 07:32:32.760 And the kind of reluctance to go for those aggressive strategies, right? 07:32:32.760 --> 07:32:36.720 And this is something I criticized, by the way, in Grubby's game plan during the ladder race. 07:32:36.720 --> 07:32:39.240 I told Grubby multiple times, and of course it is hard to break the habit, 07:32:39.240 --> 07:32:41.960 But for the multiple times you don't want to give up that full map control 07:32:41.960 --> 07:32:44.880 You always want to keep some army on the field gain some respect from your opponent 07:32:44.880 --> 07:32:46.760 don't let him just push you like that and 07:32:46.760 --> 07:32:49.600 It's something that grubby still has to kind of incorporate into his game 07:32:50.000 --> 07:32:53.160 It looks like the person taking a little bit of a bathroom break pig will 07:32:53.680 --> 07:32:56.560 You know just take a couple minutes and grubby's thinking about the next home map 07:32:56.760 --> 07:33:00.500 It is grubby's home map. He's lost this game. It could be a read a radio. It could be arena 07:33:01.200 --> 07:33:05.040 It's gonna be arena options here. Um, it's gonna be arena and Burgundians 07:33:05.040 --> 07:33:09.980 But I just to add on to that point. I I'm also really happy Dave that that pig 07:33:10.680 --> 07:33:17.100 Decided to stick with like kind of that more aggressive and oppressive gameplay even after losing with that style in game one 07:33:17.100 --> 07:33:20.820 Right like he was the one trying to pressure in game one 07:33:21.100 --> 07:33:23.200 Ultimately a few things go wrong ends of losing the game 07:33:23.200 --> 07:33:27.220 It'd be very easy to be reactive to that and say like okay, well then I'm gonna switch things up 07:33:27.220 --> 07:33:29.220 And now I'm gonna play super defensive 07:33:29.860 --> 07:33:31.860 But he kind of sticks to his guns there 07:33:31.860 --> 07:33:39.060 utilizes a unique save with a unique approach and plays it pretty close to perfection. 07:33:39.060 --> 07:33:42.860 Again, for Mid-Elo, it was an impressive performance. 07:33:42.860 --> 07:33:44.460 Yeah, absolutely. 07:33:44.460 --> 07:33:49.860 And also, taking Grubby to Arabia, now Grubby has the home map pick. 07:33:49.860 --> 07:33:54.660 Again, Grubby could just be like, okay, I messed up once on Arabia, lost the map, 07:33:54.660 --> 07:33:56.460 but I'm still really confident in Arabia. 07:33:56.460 --> 07:33:57.860 I got a couple more picks that I'm good at. 07:33:57.860 --> 07:34:00.860 I can just take him back to Arabia, or Grubby can think, 07:34:00.860 --> 07:34:04.480 you know what he took me to Arabia let me switch it up take him to arena and so 07:34:04.480 --> 07:34:07.820 this is what's going on in grubby's mind he can do a lot of you know kind of 07:34:07.820 --> 07:34:11.220 mental games try to come up with the right solution but we saw a little bit of 07:34:11.220 --> 07:34:14.580 an upset maybe although it was a close game between captain Lance and you 07:34:14.580 --> 07:34:17.580 thermal you thermal was the better Arabia player clearly but captain Lance was 07:34:17.580 --> 07:34:21.380 the better arena player here I feel like it was kind of close so far we 07:34:21.380 --> 07:34:24.980 haven't seen arena yet but so far kind of registered fortress was close 07:34:24.980 --> 07:34:30.900 Arabia was pretty close. Let's see if there's going to be any, uh, yeah, any arena shakeup for 07:34:30.900 --> 07:34:36.820 Grubby if he just brings us back to Arabia. I like the triple cast, by the way. You guys are 07:34:36.820 --> 07:34:40.500 saving my vocal cords, man. You're going to be cooked by the end of this tournament, though, 07:34:40.500 --> 07:34:44.900 Harry. You're going to be absolutely cooked, man. I don't know how you're going to be able to speak 07:34:44.900 --> 07:34:49.940 at all. I felt myself losing my voice yesterday, but now I'm like back. I don't know, like, 07:34:49.940 --> 07:34:54.420 My voice is back today. It's like, I don't know, maybe the Red Bulls, the Bidens in there, 07:34:54.420 --> 07:34:57.860 or something, maybe the water, I don't know, but something's kind of giving the motivation 07:34:57.860 --> 07:35:01.140 to just continue pushing through. But I think it's just how fun it is. I'm not really thinking 07:35:01.140 --> 07:35:04.100 about just how much work has been put in yet. Hasn't settled in. 07:35:05.060 --> 07:35:08.900 I mean, you'll, in a week and a half, you'll only have to play as well. 07:35:08.900 --> 07:35:09.140 Yes. 07:35:09.140 --> 07:35:12.660 You won't have to cast anymore. You'll have like a full week of just playing. 07:35:12.660 --> 07:35:12.900 Yeah. 07:35:14.020 --> 07:35:16.820 Yeah, absolutely. It's been a lot of fun, though. I have to say, like, this tournament 07:35:16.820 --> 07:35:22.020 has been so much fun. It's delivered way past my expectations. We also broke a viewership 07:35:22.020 --> 07:35:26.100 record on my channel last game. I think we were close to 20,000 between YouTube and Twitch, 07:35:26.100 --> 07:35:30.980 just on my channel. Overall, we've had like 35,000 plus viewers on this tournament, which 07:35:30.980 --> 07:35:35.260 by the way, thank you all for being here. That's like rivaling our S tier tournament 07:35:35.260 --> 07:35:39.460 numbers for Age of Empires 2. So this term has been a raging success, which has just 07:35:39.460 --> 07:35:43.140 made it so motivating. So a huge thank you to everyone tuning in to Age of Empires 07:35:43.140 --> 07:35:46.820 you on a weekend. Of course, big thank you to Dave and Dash for joining me here. We're 07:35:46.820 --> 07:35:50.620 going to go into the game three very soon. Pig is back to the seat and so it's Grubby's 07:35:50.620 --> 07:35:52.300 home map. What's everybody goes for? 07:35:52.300 --> 07:35:56.220 Oh, okay. It just popped up. 07:35:56.220 --> 07:35:58.620 They're on Arabia, but I don't know if they're going to stay there. 07:35:58.620 --> 07:36:04.660 Yeah. It's in lobby still, so we'll see if it... 07:36:04.660 --> 07:36:14.500 I mean, what's funny is like you I could see grubby going to arena simply because like he 07:36:15.540 --> 07:36:18.100 wants to protect against that kind of aggression. 07:36:19.140 --> 07:36:22.340 Evan Pig still just goes forward Castle kind of like what we saw a capital 07:36:22.340 --> 07:36:25.620 Lance do to you thermal, right? It's just like I'm still going to go aggressive. 07:36:25.620 --> 07:36:30.740 And if you if you decide to play greedy and drop that TC first before either scouting it out 07:36:30.740 --> 07:36:35.740 or, you know, having a manganelle ready, you're screwed. 07:36:36.900 --> 07:36:38.540 I mean, Lance had a lot of prep too. 07:36:38.540 --> 07:36:43.140 Like we, we had like a three hour, four hour stream together 07:36:43.140 --> 07:36:45.540 and we were just talking about like fast stamps 07:36:45.540 --> 07:36:48.040 and pushing with forward castles. 07:36:48.040 --> 07:36:51.180 So like he was really locked in on that wind condition 07:36:51.180 --> 07:36:54.500 and he's, he's got a lot of good experience as well. 07:36:54.500 --> 07:36:56.020 Cause he's played a lot of team games. 07:36:56.020 --> 07:36:58.420 Yeah. Like Lance is dangerous, man. 07:36:58.420 --> 07:37:00.220 Lance is kind of my favorite going forward 07:37:00.220 --> 07:37:02.100 in the tournament after today? 07:37:02.100 --> 07:37:03.980 Yeah, I feel like Grubby, 07:37:03.980 --> 07:37:06.980 there's a bit of a question mark on whether he can adapt 07:37:06.980 --> 07:37:08.220 to different rushes, 07:37:08.220 --> 07:37:10.540 because I feel like if the game is micro macro, 07:37:10.540 --> 07:37:12.780 like late game, like we saw that game one, 07:37:12.780 --> 07:37:13.620 it's kind of close, 07:37:13.620 --> 07:37:15.700 and then just Grubby takes it to like a high gear 07:37:15.700 --> 07:37:16.620 in the late game, 07:37:16.620 --> 07:37:18.420 where he just pops off with like 200 production, 07:37:18.420 --> 07:37:20.860 he's really good at micro managing that late game. 07:37:20.860 --> 07:37:22.620 But when it comes to dealing with pushes, 07:37:22.620 --> 07:37:25.140 if we're imagining a potential Grubby-Lance matchup 07:37:25.140 --> 07:37:27.500 in the next winter bracket round, 07:37:27.500 --> 07:37:28.340 I feel like Captain Lance 07:37:28.340 --> 07:37:30.180 is not gonna let Grubby boom at all, 07:37:30.180 --> 07:37:33.580 So that's a big question mark onto Grubby's gameplay. They've started the next game 07:37:33.580 --> 07:37:38.400 It's gonna be Arabia and Grubby's bought as trusted Ethiopians versus pigs trusted Vietnamese 07:37:38.460 --> 07:37:44.960 This is both I'm so worried for Grubby. This is a hard matchup though because Vietnamese kind of counters Ethiopians 07:37:45.940 --> 07:37:52.180 Exactly exactly and you just get free Imperial skirmish here into an archer base. So I 07:37:53.420 --> 07:37:56.520 Mean I think a big the good news is like for for Grubby 07:37:56.520 --> 07:38:01.200 This is what I believe one of his most played civs right didn't he start primarily on Ethiopians 07:38:01.200 --> 07:38:07.160 Oh, it is my part of his most fun for Gundians. Okay. Yeah, I should be 180 games with it or something like that 07:38:07.160 --> 07:38:10.160 Yeah, right. Yeah, so this should be ultra comfort for him 07:38:10.160 --> 07:38:12.680 And this is where you would kind of expect that even in a matchup 07:38:12.680 --> 07:38:14.560 Maybe that isn't necessarily favorite for him 07:38:14.560 --> 07:38:20.320 He can still just pilot the civ maybe handle the transitions between different units a little bit smoother 07:38:20.760 --> 07:38:23.120 Make use of the the bonuses, you know 07:38:23.120 --> 07:38:30.920 like the extra golden food upon age-upping and pig with a great map is 07:38:30.920 --> 07:38:37.480 this map is incredible again mm-hmm and grubby's no nice woodland there good 07:38:37.480 --> 07:38:40.720 woodland to the back as well gold very secure berries up to the side but not 07:38:40.720 --> 07:38:45.360 too exposed looking at pigs map for berries kind of a Ford gold does have a 07:38:45.360 --> 07:38:48.160 nice back woodland though I took a map sure a bit even but slightly favorite 07:38:48.160 --> 07:38:53.080 for grubby also I want to take a note here that Vietnamese we saw we saw 07:38:53.080 --> 07:38:58.540 Singsing earlier just jumped straight to his opponent's base and actually lame a bore that is on the table for pig 07:38:58.540 --> 07:39:03.300 But pig has chosen to not really utilize that that Vietnamese bonus and just go straight across 07:39:03.460 --> 07:39:05.860 Says scout and kind of play a consistent dark age 07:39:05.860 --> 07:39:10.720 You don't have to go for the bore lane with Vietnamese and pick showing that you know what jump play a standard game 07:39:10.720 --> 07:39:12.720 Not gonna risk it in the dark age 07:39:14.320 --> 07:39:19.720 Yeah, and I don't I don't really think like if you just won the last game in such a convincing fashion 07:39:19.720 --> 07:39:23.900 And then you had a chance in the first game. You don't need to take any wild risks 07:39:23.980 --> 07:39:29.920 Yeah, going forward and trying to lame a bore anything. You're not that much of an underdog. You're actually competing quite well, so 07:39:31.180 --> 07:39:35.560 It should be pig here with the momentum coming in especially with such a nice sit matchup 07:39:36.060 --> 07:39:39.520 Vietnamese ask a silly noob question of course 07:39:40.440 --> 07:39:46.880 Every day, baby. Yeah, is it just a hundred percent more efficient to kill the board with the TC now or 07:39:46.880 --> 07:39:53.380 Or like it is there at is it actually any faster or more efficient to kill with the TC versus just killing it with a group of the 07:39:53.380 --> 07:39:55.660 Sevenville, you know like seven villagers under the TC 07:39:57.380 --> 07:40:03.020 Or is it just a jump in and out and be slightly more efficient, but it's just it's more consistent 07:40:03.420 --> 07:40:06.700 Okay, the TC. Yeah, I definitely still do it the old way 07:40:06.700 --> 07:40:12.540 I just like pull pull bill through and just kill it with my villagers as it's running by right and and killing it under TC 07:40:14.380 --> 07:40:16.740 But then I was wondering I was like is it actually faster 07:40:16.880 --> 07:40:21.720 By the way, like there's been some shenanigans here grubby targeted the villager here from pig 07:40:21.720 --> 07:40:26.560 Didn't kill it, but pig got housed because he was kind of dealing with that kind of shenanigan from grubby 07:40:26.560 --> 07:40:29.000 So now we had a little bit of idle TC time because you kind of forget that house 07:40:29.000 --> 07:40:33.740 And so just a little bit of early pressure from grubby kind of making pig panic a little 07:40:34.120 --> 07:40:36.780 Be a little behind is a bill behind 07:40:37.760 --> 07:40:43.220 22 seconds out of TC, but to your point dash just bring it in the bore and killing with the town centers generally speaking of the 07:40:43.220 --> 07:40:46.040 More consistent approach and Dave definitely had the right answer there 07:40:46.880 --> 07:40:52.160 I don't know if Grubby will be too worried about this matchup. He's played on a bunch of ladders 07:40:52.160 --> 07:40:57.720 So it kind of knows that it's kind of bad on paper, but seems to have a nice early game advantage with that scouts harassment 07:40:59.420 --> 07:41:05.760 Dude, I was I was saying earlier with all these guys playing Age of Empires and streaming and a lot of them playing it for 07:41:05.760 --> 07:41:07.760 if not the first time like 07:41:07.800 --> 07:41:09.480 still relatively new 07:41:09.480 --> 07:41:11.480 Imagine if we still had 07:41:11.480 --> 07:41:17.320 the TC killing the boar tech where the meet wasn't available if the oh my god final shot 07:41:17.920 --> 07:41:23.900 Imagine the chaos that would have happened. Yeah for all of these streamers and all of the funny moments that we would have had 07:41:24.440 --> 07:41:27.920 Surrounding that dude. What's funny Dave is that when that changes coming? 07:41:27.920 --> 07:41:30.480 I was like really against it as like an a with you furious 07:41:30.480 --> 07:41:35.440 No, it's been like this 25 years. I was against it like one week after it came. I was like, oh, yeah 07:41:35.440 --> 07:41:38.040 This shit's totally better. It's fantastic. You know 07:41:38.040 --> 07:41:39.040 Yeah. 07:41:39.040 --> 07:41:43.040 I did a 180 turn on that one. 07:41:43.040 --> 07:41:46.440 All right, Pugel Age on the way for Grubby. 07:41:46.440 --> 07:41:48.040 He's going up 19 population. 07:41:48.040 --> 07:41:53.240 Pig, like you said, with that harassment from Grubby, he had himself an awkward start. 07:41:53.240 --> 07:41:55.640 You can already see it in the res collected. 07:41:55.640 --> 07:41:58.080 You could see it in the idle TC time. 07:41:58.080 --> 07:42:02.920 He's going to go up with 20 population and he's going to try and just kind of 07:42:02.920 --> 07:42:07.080 recover his wits about him and have a consistent build. 07:42:07.080 --> 07:42:11.720 What is this? Yeah for grubby. We got it. We got a shepherdess and a woman with an axe 07:42:12.120 --> 07:42:16.440 Moving forward down through the center of the map. Yeah, that's a dangerous combo right there 07:42:17.400 --> 07:42:19.400 Sounds like a Florida 07:42:19.400 --> 07:42:23.560 Please the first one grabs you first one grabs you around the neck the shepherd grabs you around the neck 07:42:23.560 --> 07:42:25.720 And then he just gets lobbed off 07:42:25.720 --> 07:42:27.720 by the woman with the axe 07:42:28.040 --> 07:42:32.920 I'm worried about pigs futile age setup too just because you only got four on wood 07:42:32.920 --> 07:42:37.120 He's committed a second mill and four villagers to the the rabbit 07:42:37.120 --> 07:42:38.360 So I mean he's gonna have a lot of food 07:42:38.360 --> 07:42:43.720 But I don't know what his military options are gonna be necessarily just now dropping the barracks 07:42:44.200 --> 07:42:46.200 Still has a minute 07:42:46.720 --> 07:42:53.680 Double range forward play that he tried against was it you thermal? Yeah, he did it with the malleons, right? 07:42:53.680 --> 07:42:58.960 Yeah, I think it is and I think the one criticism I had of a truck there is they just stopped making villagers 07:42:58.960 --> 07:43:00.960 And I don't think you need to make it that all in. 07:43:00.960 --> 07:43:04.960 Sneaky archers with Villages behind is good enough to win a game. 07:43:04.960 --> 07:43:07.960 Villager production keeps you in the game in case it doesn't quite work out. 07:43:07.960 --> 07:43:10.960 Two Villages from Grubby looking for some proxy ranges. 07:43:10.960 --> 07:43:14.960 If Pig is not prepared for this, if he doesn't scout it, it's going to be very hard to defend. 07:43:14.960 --> 07:43:17.960 First range gets dropped down when looking for the second one right now. 07:43:17.960 --> 07:43:19.960 He's not even going to be able to drop a military build. 07:43:19.960 --> 07:43:22.960 Like he can get three on wood. He's about to get fetal. 07:43:22.960 --> 07:43:26.960 When those archers show up, he's not even going to be able to build an archery range. 07:43:26.960 --> 07:43:31.520 way too much food right he's made that second mill he is walling though oh my god oh my god that's huge 07:43:31.520 --> 07:43:35.200 this could be huge grubby sending the scout back over but the scouts weak from before 07:43:37.520 --> 07:43:42.640 okay he's the wall he's like no that sucks you could kill that bill that's amazing 07:43:43.200 --> 07:43:46.800 did you play from grubby recognize the little hp bill beautiful quick what do you know snipe 07:43:48.400 --> 07:43:52.400 the wood though dash you mentioned the wood that we got so much food we got 500 07:43:52.400 --> 07:43:56.880 almost 600 food in the bank no wood pig realized it's mistake luckily though he's the vietnam 07:43:56.880 --> 07:44:01.220 you can get eco upgrades with no wood cost so at least you'll get the double bid 07:44:01.220 --> 07:44:06.180 axe if you just click set. Oh don't send the villagers forward Grubby then you 07:44:06.180 --> 07:44:10.980 let him know that something's up. Yeah he wants to break through but that's Patel 07:44:10.980 --> 07:44:13.900 right there and he's already bringing an archer forward so quick 07:44:13.900 --> 07:44:17.480 notification here for Pig about what he's dealing with but how does he 07:44:17.480 --> 07:44:21.020 respond still doesn't quite have the wood to actually put up an archery 07:44:21.020 --> 07:44:23.820 range of his own and these are really he's only two wood lines at this point 07:44:23.820 --> 07:44:25.820 Where does he go? 07:44:25.820 --> 07:44:28.660 I can feel the panic. 07:44:28.660 --> 07:44:30.540 I can feel it through the screen, man. 07:44:30.540 --> 07:44:32.340 He is absolutely panicking right now. 07:44:32.340 --> 07:44:33.420 The archers are here. 07:44:33.420 --> 07:44:34.420 More archers coming in. 07:44:34.420 --> 07:44:35.420 The villagers are there. 07:44:35.420 --> 07:44:36.420 No! 07:44:36.420 --> 07:44:37.420 No! 07:44:37.420 --> 07:44:38.420 That's terrible. 07:44:38.420 --> 07:44:43.420 You can't fight the archers yet, but you can't fight this many. 07:44:43.420 --> 07:44:44.420 The wall! 07:44:44.420 --> 07:44:45.420 Oh, good wall! 07:44:45.420 --> 07:44:46.420 That's a huge wall off! 07:44:46.420 --> 07:44:47.420 That's a huge re-wall behind. 07:44:47.420 --> 07:44:50.340 He's fighting with the villagers on the wood line. 07:44:50.340 --> 07:44:52.340 Scout coming in. 07:44:52.340 --> 07:44:53.340 Quick gate, quick gate. 07:44:53.340 --> 07:44:58.800 defensive defense from pig he's killed both villagers as well as his own wait 07:44:58.800 --> 07:45:03.180 this is crazy he's killed both way he's holding this they're both to to an 07:45:03.180 --> 07:45:06.460 eco KD if you can just trap these archers he goes to the gate does he get 07:45:06.460 --> 07:45:11.520 it the gate are not quite not quite but still a great hold loses one more 07:45:11.520 --> 07:45:15.060 village of those three two in terms of eco KD we start making some skirmishers 07:45:15.060 --> 07:45:18.540 guys all things considered at the monumental defense for pig like that 07:45:18.540 --> 07:45:23.540 could have been horrible. It's decent. I'm still I'm stunned. This game, I feel like 07:45:23.540 --> 07:45:27.700 should be over right now. Yes, based on the opening that grubby was given there. 07:45:27.700 --> 07:45:30.620 But first skirmisher is on the field. We still don't have fletching for these 07:45:30.620 --> 07:45:34.700 archers. So with maybe one or two more skirmishers, he'll be able to push these 07:45:34.700 --> 07:45:39.020 archers back pretty easily. Production is still good though for grubby. Guys, 07:45:39.020 --> 07:45:42.660 no behind this looking at no Vildra production yet. No, I don't you see out 07:45:42.660 --> 07:45:46.500 the ass right now. Two minutes of auto TC, no farms, no chickens, which is 07:45:46.500 --> 07:45:47.620 It's a lot of babies. 07:45:47.620 --> 07:45:48.820 No fletching, you can't afford it. 07:45:48.820 --> 07:45:49.940 He's not making villagers. 07:45:49.940 --> 07:45:53.580 Dude, Grebi's super all in, but he is back in onto Pig's base. 07:45:53.580 --> 07:45:55.460 We have some skirmishers and some good micro from Pig, 07:45:55.460 --> 07:45:57.020 keeping that low HP skirm away. 07:45:57.020 --> 07:46:00.420 But still five archers here, looking aggressive. 07:46:00.420 --> 07:46:02.020 Grebi needs fletching for these archers. 07:46:02.020 --> 07:46:03.100 It's critical. 07:46:03.100 --> 07:46:05.220 And he comes in with the one HP scout, 07:46:05.220 --> 07:46:07.980 and he gets the one HP bill. 07:46:07.980 --> 07:46:10.220 The bill could have turned back into these guys. 07:46:10.220 --> 07:46:11.820 Don't play incredibly, man. 07:46:11.820 --> 07:46:12.940 What a show. 07:46:12.940 --> 07:46:14.220 Super super high level. 07:46:14.220 --> 07:46:15.380 That's huge. 07:46:15.380 --> 07:46:26.380 That is massive. We saw it before the game Atroc had against Uthermal, where Uthermal couldn't get the armor or Fletching because he was so up against the wall and Atroc had Fletching and he got so much damage. 07:46:26.380 --> 07:46:30.380 He didn't end up winning the game, but it was insane what the Archers could do. 07:46:30.380 --> 07:46:36.380 Yeah, Fletching now and you see the Archers, they attack even faster than generic ones. A lot of these villagers are peppered up. 07:46:36.380 --> 07:46:41.380 All kind of taken some hits. One of them finally falls here with Archers and could be in scrims. 07:46:41.380 --> 07:46:45.420 Here my grubby. Yep. He split up a kill a couple villages up top looking good for him 07:46:47.340 --> 07:46:49.220 I 07:46:49.220 --> 07:46:50.620 Even as a result 07:46:50.620 --> 07:46:50.820 Yeah 07:46:50.820 --> 07:46:57.180 Down to 23 to 22 is because you know in order to have this kind of archer production and to commit to fletching grub 07:46:57.180 --> 07:47:02.020 He's not able to produce too many villagers. He's got enough food now. I'd like to see him start investing in villagers 07:47:02.020 --> 07:47:07.220 But he's probably like being pretty hard way. Yeah, he's absolutely locked in right now 07:47:07.220 --> 07:47:14.200 I absolutely respect the attention to detail here from pig to keep trying to rewall back. Yes. Yeah, just stop 07:47:14.200 --> 07:47:18.440 The archers coming in that's what saved his game so far is the multiple times 07:47:18.440 --> 07:47:20.720 He's rewalled that grubby has to keep breaking it 07:47:20.720 --> 07:47:25.320 We need armor by the way back over to deal with these archers. You have a blacksmith pick and just click armor 07:47:25.320 --> 07:47:28.040 You can click flushing as well. You need upgrades age one parts up 07:47:29.040 --> 07:47:31.280 Gates really nice guy 07:47:31.280 --> 07:47:31.780 Oh! 07:47:35.040 --> 07:47:37.040 Rubby needs to start adding Vils, man. 07:47:37.040 --> 07:47:38.600 Like, the pressure's still coming down. 07:47:38.600 --> 07:47:39.880 You're still getting Villager kills, 07:47:39.880 --> 07:47:42.240 but your opponent's massing skirm. 07:47:42.240 --> 07:47:45.440 You need to start adding that backup plan behind this, right? 07:47:45.440 --> 07:47:47.440 Rubby's still pushing it with the Micra. 07:47:47.440 --> 07:47:50.160 There's still a chance he can win with this initial push. 07:47:50.160 --> 07:47:51.560 But if he doesn't... 07:47:51.560 --> 07:47:52.200 Oh my god. 07:47:52.200 --> 07:47:53.320 Oh my god, there's a one-a-one if you build. 07:47:53.320 --> 07:47:54.840 Arthur chases him. 07:47:54.840 --> 07:47:56.360 Arthur chases the... 07:47:56.360 --> 07:47:59.720 What if you build under the town that it kills her? 07:47:59.720 --> 07:48:04.040 And uh, dude, Pig has lost 9 villagers so far, but he's still up 3. 07:48:04.040 --> 07:48:06.040 The other DC time has been crazy for Grubby. 07:48:08.360 --> 07:48:13.320 Yeah, Grubby is finally putting some villagers in the queue here and there from 20 to 25. 07:48:13.320 --> 07:48:14.320 Wow. 07:48:16.440 --> 07:48:17.960 It's being blocked right now by the archers. 07:48:17.960 --> 07:48:19.800 He's gonna get a few more skirmishers over there. 07:48:19.800 --> 07:48:21.480 Armour is in, Armour is in, that's massive. 07:48:21.480 --> 07:48:23.040 The armour is in for the skirmishers. 07:48:23.040 --> 07:48:25.400 I think this push from Grubby is about to stall out. 07:48:25.400 --> 07:48:27.400 He just walled in again! 07:48:27.400 --> 07:48:28.520 Oh Pig! 07:48:28.520 --> 07:48:29.120 Dude. 07:48:29.120 --> 07:48:36.120 The presence of mine to go to that wall, amidst the archers, he will lose two bills for it, but now the push is cleared up for sure. 07:48:36.120 --> 07:48:43.120 Remember these are Vietnamese skirmishers, 36 HP, considering the regular skirmishers only 30, a nice little bonus for the Vietnamese. 07:48:43.120 --> 07:48:45.120 Armors in, so they're super tanky. 07:48:45.120 --> 07:48:49.120 Grubby's looking for one more kill? Maybe he finds her. 07:48:49.120 --> 07:48:51.120 Uh oh, headshot. 07:48:51.120 --> 07:48:52.120 Beautiful. 07:48:52.120 --> 07:48:57.120 Oh, found one more! That's crazy, it was one HP. 07:48:57.120 --> 07:49:02.060 I mean Grubby's now you know less bills but more resources collected yeah but I 07:49:02.060 --> 07:49:05.220 think he needs to realize that his push is running out of steam right you can 07:49:05.220 --> 07:49:07.920 still pump these archers behind woodlines like he's doing right now to 07:49:07.920 --> 07:49:11.100 harass but you need to be thinking about your transition from this point 07:49:11.100 --> 07:49:14.020 forward and he's put some villagers out onto the rabbits so he's looking for 07:49:14.020 --> 07:49:19.020 some food eco yeah that's some farm stuff as well you could go scouts here 07:49:19.020 --> 07:49:22.940 or you could think about Castle Age as well if you're Grubby like a faster 07:49:22.940 --> 07:49:27.020 castle I don't know what's the most consistent thing I think overall you do 07:49:27.020 --> 07:49:30.460 You need to wall your base though, because eventually this army will come back across. 07:49:30.460 --> 07:49:31.960 Yeah, Fletching coming in from the play. 07:49:31.960 --> 07:49:37.780 Fletching also helps with archers, so as Pig doesn't need to stay on skirmishers all game 07:49:37.780 --> 07:49:38.780 here. 07:49:38.780 --> 07:49:41.140 He can make a few skirmishers, push back the archers, and Vietnamese have great archers 07:49:41.140 --> 07:49:42.140 in their own right side. 07:49:42.140 --> 07:49:45.300 I would like to see Pig clear this up, and then maybe I even add a second range to 07:49:45.300 --> 07:49:47.460 group some archers, reclaim the map a little bit. 07:49:47.460 --> 07:49:49.460 But great micro from Gragi, he's got a lot of archers around. 07:49:49.460 --> 07:49:53.700 He's actually outmatching these skirmishers pretty hard. 07:49:53.700 --> 07:49:56.540 This set is delivered so far, for sure. 07:49:56.540 --> 07:50:03.500 high level. I love the fact that Grubby switched it up this game and it was like he was listening 07:50:03.500 --> 07:50:08.500 to us right it's like he needs to be more aggressive this is way more aggressive than 07:50:08.500 --> 07:50:14.980 I was talking about but it's very entertaining. Also another thing with forward production 07:50:14.980 --> 07:50:19.900 buildings I don't know how often Grubby's played a sneak attempt like this maybe never 07:50:19.900 --> 07:50:24.700 but when you have forward production buildings things get really hairy once you lose your 07:50:24.700 --> 07:50:28.540 momentum. And you're trying to defend with the units that you're producing from those. So he 07:50:28.540 --> 07:50:32.940 needs to be ready with something at home, if Pig wants to attack him. That's like the villager, 07:50:32.940 --> 07:50:37.980 his reasoning so far seems to be, let me just keep attacking. He's kind of looping them around 07:50:37.980 --> 07:50:41.340 this wood line here, a little bit of lube action. Shout out Yamato, of course. But 07:50:42.380 --> 07:50:45.580 Pig is masking up skirmishers that just aren't dying anymore. So eventually, 07:50:45.580 --> 07:50:48.700 Pig's gonna have enough skirmishers to just defend. And Grubby, like you said, 07:50:48.700 --> 07:50:52.380 Dash, will have to transition away to something else. Because listen, a lot of farms to 07:50:52.380 --> 07:50:55.000 He's making his transition to what's Castle Age very soon. 07:50:55.000 --> 07:50:56.800 He's in a good spot, overall. 07:50:59.200 --> 07:51:03.200 Yeah, both players kind of realizing that in this moment they need to start getting more on food. 07:51:03.200 --> 07:51:08.500 You can see Grubby as well at home starting to surround the TC with farms, thinking about Castle Age. 07:51:08.500 --> 07:51:12.700 But both players still a ways away in terms of the overall resources. 07:51:12.700 --> 07:51:17.140 I think the difficulty though here for Grubby is going to be the Civ matchup, right? 07:51:17.140 --> 07:51:22.300 We talk about needing to transition, well as Ethiopians, what do you transition into, right? 07:51:22.300 --> 07:51:29.020 You want to be eventually on like an arbalist seed ram or arbalist on your kind of composition 07:51:29.020 --> 07:51:34.300 later in the game, you're playing in the Vietnamese, it just feels like you're running 07:51:34.300 --> 07:51:35.300 into a brick wall. 07:51:35.300 --> 07:51:39.020 You have some options, double eco tech coming in from Pig. 07:51:39.020 --> 07:51:40.020 Nice. 07:51:40.020 --> 07:51:41.020 You can get Wilbur too. 07:51:41.020 --> 07:51:44.180 Yeah, certainly Wilbur would be fantastic to boost those farms. 07:51:44.180 --> 07:51:46.780 Like Ethiopian showtel warriors I think are a little underused. 07:51:46.780 --> 07:51:49.540 I think Grubby has not really mixed them into his arsenal as much. 07:51:49.540 --> 07:51:51.660 So decent option there. 07:51:51.660 --> 07:51:56.580 But to your point Dash, no matter what Ethiopians do, the imp scrum is going to be like the main 07:51:56.580 --> 07:52:01.060 unit stuffing those kind of archer play that they so desperately want to get onto in most 07:52:01.060 --> 07:52:02.460 compositions. 07:52:02.460 --> 07:52:06.660 And so if I were Grubby, I would like to do something different than an archer line 07:52:06.660 --> 07:52:07.880 in Cast Lich. 07:52:07.880 --> 07:52:11.660 So kind of pushing the Vietnamese away from their imp scrums, or their scrums entirely, 07:52:11.660 --> 07:52:14.460 giving you a chance to re-get into our blessed later. 07:52:14.460 --> 07:52:18.860 It's a bit of a high level concept to just like switch it up early to, you know, 07:52:18.860 --> 07:52:21.260 deny that kind of counter unit, that perma counter unit. 07:52:21.260 --> 07:52:27.740 I'm not sure if Grubby can do that, but something like a two-stable transition in Castle could really finish Pig off if he stays on the skirmishers. 07:52:28.740 --> 07:52:34.160 I think Grubby's gonna fall into the forward production building strap here, Hera. He's gone for the market. 07:52:34.160 --> 07:52:38.980 He's gonna try and click up, I think, soon. The scouts are out, so the skirmishers are gonna get pushed away. 07:52:38.980 --> 07:52:41.600 Yeah. And then he'll be relying on his forward buildings. 07:52:42.480 --> 07:52:44.480 And this is just like... 07:52:44.480 --> 07:52:50.800 I don't want to see it, but I suspect it might happen for him. This is just an experience thing with Age of Empires, right? 07:52:50.800 --> 07:52:56.200 You do this enough times and you learn that you get screwed over by the forward buildings 07:52:56.600 --> 07:53:00.100 Yeah, he's to stop making military from the forward production right now 07:53:00.240 --> 07:53:03.520 Send them back home whatever he's got left and just kind of re recoup 07:53:03.520 --> 07:53:09.920 He's got a recoup and just think about the follow-up like actively come up with a new plan because this is current one here 07:53:09.920 --> 07:53:13.040 You can try mixing in some archers burn out like scurms scouts for pig 07:53:14.800 --> 07:53:19.200 Yeah, they are so low. Yeah, what a great defense from pig. Oh my goodness 07:53:19.200 --> 07:53:24.200 he's lost 14 villagers and it just looks so calm right now. 07:53:25.120 --> 07:53:27.440 He is, you think pig thinks this is an even game 07:53:27.440 --> 07:53:29.680 because we see the idle TC time from Grubbit at seven minutes. 07:53:29.680 --> 07:53:31.120 I think so. 07:53:31.120 --> 07:53:31.960 I think so. 07:53:31.960 --> 07:53:34.000 I think he watched that ATREAL game yesterday. 07:53:34.000 --> 07:53:34.840 Yeah. 07:53:34.840 --> 07:53:38.600 And I think he knows how much that this type of strategy costs. 07:53:38.600 --> 07:53:40.880 He also killed the two villagers forward too. 07:53:40.880 --> 07:53:41.720 Yeah. 07:53:41.720 --> 07:53:44.160 He's gonna benefit from seeing the score 07:53:44.160 --> 07:53:45.840 in his favor as well, I think. 07:53:45.840 --> 07:53:47.360 Like just mentally, right? 07:53:47.360 --> 07:53:49.000 Like, even though, you know, 07:53:49.000 --> 07:53:50.320 He took a lot of damage, at least. 07:53:50.320 --> 07:53:54.480 I would look at that and fall back on, okay, I did something right, like something went 07:53:54.480 --> 07:53:58.160 well for me there, even if I couldn't identify exactly what it was, right? 07:53:58.160 --> 07:53:59.160 Yeah. 07:53:59.160 --> 07:54:00.840 And it's not a 200 point lead. 07:54:00.840 --> 07:54:01.840 Double stable from Grubby. 07:54:01.840 --> 07:54:03.400 He's up 600 points, by the way. 07:54:03.400 --> 07:54:05.280 This is like a legitimate score lead. 07:54:05.280 --> 07:54:06.280 Double stable from Grubby. 07:54:06.280 --> 07:54:07.280 That's the casual age. 07:54:07.280 --> 07:54:08.280 I love that. 07:54:08.280 --> 07:54:09.280 Yep. 07:54:09.280 --> 07:54:10.680 Great play from Grubby. 07:54:10.680 --> 07:54:14.480 And Pig will be hard committed over there with his scouts to the archer ranges, so. 07:54:14.480 --> 07:54:17.040 Pig's a lot of farms, by the way. 07:54:17.040 --> 07:54:18.360 Probably won't make more archers. 07:54:18.360 --> 07:54:21.120 transition from here for the Vietnamese and I know he knows about he's been 07:54:21.120 --> 07:54:24.780 playing quite a lot of fire Lancers recently he knows how strong they are in 07:54:24.780 --> 07:54:28.320 tonight the problem though for Peg is that he doesn't need that much food for 07:54:28.320 --> 07:54:31.940 fire Lancers so there's a question is whether he's going to be able to take 07:54:31.940 --> 07:54:35.840 some of the letters off of food onto the gold and really set up the fire 07:54:35.840 --> 07:54:38.920 Lancer skirm composition that he needs right now it's the best composition 07:54:38.920 --> 07:54:42.200 you can play and it's really good into what grubby's doing. Higgs scouts the 07:54:42.200 --> 07:54:45.200 two stables by the way so he knows what's coming let's see if he adapts to it. 07:54:45.200 --> 07:54:50.480 you to go and tap that stable there Grubby at 97% stable with the Jeff Scrummarshers. 07:54:50.480 --> 07:54:55.280 Do it for us Grubby, come on, do it for us men. 07:54:55.280 --> 07:54:58.080 Grab that hammer, get to work. 07:54:58.080 --> 07:55:03.920 It's what you said that EcoBalance, because with what he wants to make and what Grubby 07:55:03.920 --> 07:55:09.040 wants to make, I think it would be fine if they flip their EcoBalance right now. 07:55:09.040 --> 07:55:19.720 It's like Grubby has the eco to produce fire lances and Pig has the eco to produce knights. 07:55:19.720 --> 07:55:25.760 He has 6 archers and they are forward but they are about to get found by these scouts 07:55:25.760 --> 07:55:26.760 in this moment. 07:55:26.760 --> 07:55:29.120 He's going for the crossbow and the bodkin. 07:55:29.120 --> 07:55:33.360 He wants to get more damage as opposed to being alerted to it. 07:55:33.360 --> 07:55:37.200 Pig no stone for tower and the scourge for the armor upgrade on cavalry. 07:55:37.200 --> 07:55:41.480 There's a real possibility that this timing push from Grubby will kill Pig. 07:55:41.480 --> 07:55:43.160 He can't defend his gold right now at all. 07:55:43.160 --> 07:55:47.640 He's got some skirmishers, but Crossbows with good kiting will beat this. 07:55:47.640 --> 07:55:49.840 Grubby is not going to have any Crossbows left though. 07:55:49.840 --> 07:55:51.800 He's going to have five right now. 07:55:51.800 --> 07:55:55.040 If Pig gets a couple more lucky shots, he can potentially take this out. 07:55:55.040 --> 07:55:57.480 I guess Pig is waiting for... 07:55:57.480 --> 07:55:58.480 There it is. 07:55:58.480 --> 07:55:59.480 A tower? 07:55:59.480 --> 07:56:00.480 Yeah, that's really smart. 07:56:00.480 --> 07:56:02.960 It's an expensive tower, but it's really good. 07:56:02.960 --> 07:56:04.800 Grimisher's got to stay in defense though. 07:56:04.800 --> 07:56:07.320 You're gonna lose a couple of villagers here. 07:56:07.320 --> 07:56:09.040 He's already lost a couple of villagers, Dash. 07:56:09.040 --> 07:56:09.880 He's used to it. 07:56:09.880 --> 07:56:10.880 He's fine with it. 07:56:10.880 --> 07:56:11.720 You're right. 07:56:11.720 --> 07:56:12.720 He wants a few more. 07:56:12.720 --> 07:56:15.480 He's got plenty of left. 07:56:15.480 --> 07:56:16.880 All right, skirmisher defense here. 07:56:16.880 --> 07:56:17.800 No fire Lancers. 07:56:17.800 --> 07:56:19.040 It's gonna be cavalry. 07:56:19.040 --> 07:56:19.880 I don't mind that either. 07:56:19.880 --> 07:56:22.280 Skirm Knight, of course, a classic composition. 07:56:22.280 --> 07:56:24.400 Way before all these new fire Lancer units came in. 07:56:24.400 --> 07:56:25.960 We were playing Skirm Knight for 20 years 07:56:25.960 --> 07:56:27.280 and completely happy with it. 07:56:27.280 --> 07:56:28.120 Skirm Knight, of course, 07:56:28.120 --> 07:56:29.320 fully upgraded for the Vietnamese. 07:56:29.320 --> 07:56:31.400 Even tankier Skirm's on the table. 07:56:31.400 --> 07:56:32.800 A great combo for them, of course. 07:56:32.800 --> 07:56:33.920 One Knight from Grubby. 07:56:33.920 --> 07:56:38.000 Not quite the crazy two stable play, but I mean it's enough to push back the skirmishers for now 07:56:40.080 --> 07:56:41.920 We got ourselves a long game now 07:56:41.920 --> 07:56:48.520 Like one of those crazy feudal age battles where you think one player is gonna get wiped and then it just kind of stabilizes, right? 07:56:48.640 --> 07:56:50.760 Let's see how much damage grubby can do at the Knights 07:56:50.760 --> 07:56:56.540 There are still a bunch of weak villagers in this eco from pig and he's got crossbows on the woodline behind too 07:56:56.540 --> 07:56:58.540 Oh, yeah, it's just yeah 07:56:58.880 --> 07:57:02.440 It's nasty. We have another 91% stable dash come on. Yeah 07:57:03.920 --> 07:57:08.560 about sounds like what happened that both these players decided to leave unfinished stables in their 07:57:08.560 --> 07:57:12.880 base I mean obviously pigs got bigger things to deal with right now right woodline getting harassed 07:57:12.880 --> 07:57:18.400 by the crossbows the knights in the back line now he only has fetal age skirmishers in defense 07:57:18.400 --> 07:57:21.920 it's not the right unit to be using now his gold's getting harassed as well I mean grubby's doing 07:57:21.920 --> 07:57:26.240 a phenomenal job just hitting from all angles dude grubby's really good at this by the way 07:57:26.240 --> 07:57:30.560 it's like the warcraft experience of fighting with different units harassing different villagers 07:57:30.560 --> 07:57:35.320 Not fighting all the knights in one spot, he's killing a lot of villagers and idling even more. 07:57:35.320 --> 07:57:38.560 He will get cleared up eventually but that's good value for the knights. Look at this. 07:57:38.560 --> 07:57:42.720 Grubby, 15th villager lead, he's really pulled ahead here with the 2TC boom behind it. 07:57:42.720 --> 07:57:45.000 Great, great play, great last few minutes for Grubby. 07:57:46.680 --> 07:57:50.640 An excellent change-up in this game. It seemed like he was so all-in early. 07:57:50.640 --> 07:57:54.400 And then at some point his mind kind of flipped when he added those stables. 07:57:54.400 --> 07:57:57.000 He still has the archer-inges to produce from forward. 07:57:57.000 --> 07:58:00.520 Now he's got the siege workshop and he's in his comfort zone with 2TCs behind. 07:58:01.400 --> 07:58:03.400 It's also a classy move 07:58:05.200 --> 07:58:09.840 It's a classy move that he only goes for a second TC. He's bringing a siege workshop forward 07:58:10.240 --> 07:58:13.680 Right. He's taking a small advantage and now he's gonna he's gonna kind of 07:58:14.360 --> 07:58:19.720 Balloon it with the eco, but he's not gonna completely let let off the gas and give pig 07:58:19.720 --> 07:58:22.200 You know an opportunity to to boom back into the game 07:58:22.280 --> 07:58:27.920 You know like this mega does just bringing one of it to the tower usually pros would wait to two or three 07:58:27.920 --> 07:58:32.560 Of course you could repair it, but it's gonna cost you some golden sorry some wooden gold 07:58:36.200 --> 07:58:44.320 It pig is just so resilient isn't he it's loses 10 villagers on one side pulls them to the other loses 10 there pulls them back 07:58:44.480 --> 07:58:50.080 He's just constantly trying to get himself back out of the game. This is the score lead. This is crazy 07:58:50.080 --> 07:58:53.360 Good counterattacks amazing counterattacks 07:58:53.360 --> 07:58:56.360 Grubby doesn't see it, the camel passes right by it! 07:58:56.360 --> 07:58:58.360 Oh my goodness, the camel! 07:58:58.360 --> 07:59:00.360 The camel couldn't get the defense we needed, this is 10. 07:59:00.360 --> 07:59:02.360 And he's losing his army forward here! 07:59:02.360 --> 07:59:04.360 He's losing his army forward as well! 07:59:04.360 --> 07:59:06.360 He's losing his villagers on the gold! 07:59:08.360 --> 07:59:12.360 Dude, I mean out of nowhere, 10 plus eco kills. 07:59:12.360 --> 07:59:14.360 He still has good pressure on the gold. 07:59:14.360 --> 07:59:16.360 The whole team knows those mangles are doing... 07:59:16.360 --> 07:59:18.360 Yeah, they are getting involved. 07:59:18.360 --> 07:59:21.360 No, no, no, no, the knights are enough, bro, don't set the bills! 07:59:21.360 --> 07:59:23.360 Losing one goal. 07:59:23.360 --> 07:59:26.360 Look at the dice in Grubby's face! 07:59:26.360 --> 07:59:28.360 Oh my god, they're under the T-Series now! 07:59:28.360 --> 07:59:30.360 Killing everything! 07:59:30.360 --> 07:59:32.360 Finally, he's realized Grubby's going to be kicking himself. 07:59:32.360 --> 07:59:35.360 If he loses this game, he's going to look back to these knights 07:59:35.360 --> 07:59:37.360 and just have nightmares about them. 07:59:37.360 --> 07:59:39.360 Ten villagers dead, but a forward castle from Grubby. 07:59:39.360 --> 07:59:41.360 Oh my goodness! A forward castle! 07:59:41.360 --> 07:59:43.360 No way, the knights from Pig are there! 07:59:43.360 --> 07:59:46.360 Just passing. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. 07:59:46.360 --> 07:59:48.360 Oh my god. 07:59:48.360 --> 07:59:52.140 moment because that is a get out of my game castle right there dude pig just 07:59:52.140 --> 07:59:54.140 lost the game because you didn't realize you could have just killed 10 07:59:54.140 --> 07:59:58.380 villagers that's crazy but he still has some army behind this grubby just gets a 07:59:58.380 --> 08:00:02.540 miracle that pig didn't spot those but grubby's gonna go back what are we going 08:00:02.540 --> 08:00:05.460 grubby 08:00:08.180 --> 08:00:11.960 dude I think he's choked this game completely at such a nice speed he 08:00:11.960 --> 08:00:17.400 stopped all the way to castle had a castle at home dude this is crazy pig 08:00:17.400 --> 08:00:19.400 You can see that. Oh my god 08:00:19.400 --> 08:00:22.900 You know what it is. I think he in that moment. He just really is like I'm I don't have gold 08:00:24.000 --> 08:00:27.280 And he just really wanted to secure gold all of a sudden 08:00:29.080 --> 08:00:32.760 Oh, no, it can't be the gold. I think it's just he didn't have army 08:00:33.040 --> 08:00:36.860 He didn't have obviously he didn't want to throw the game fully. He wants to play it safe 08:00:36.860 --> 08:00:40.000 I mean, I guess it kind of does secure some gold as well, but 08:00:40.520 --> 08:00:44.640 Dude that was a bad two minutes for grubby really bad two minutes 08:00:44.640 --> 08:00:50.560 He's still 20 villagers ahead though, like he's still 20 bills ahead, he's going to settle 08:00:50.560 --> 08:00:55.560 in with the castle, the castle at least goes up, so he's got some defenses in this area, 08:00:55.560 --> 08:01:01.160 he can go for the gold, the knights can get in on his wood line, but he should be fine 08:01:01.160 --> 08:01:03.440 as Pig starts to expand his eco as well. 08:01:03.440 --> 08:01:04.440 What elephant? 08:01:04.440 --> 08:01:07.800 Like the what elephant mix in here, why not just put it on the siege workshop, let 08:01:07.800 --> 08:01:11.680 that guy do his thing, second TC behind this one, quite a balanced approach to the 08:01:11.680 --> 08:01:15.920 economy from both players just two PC not rushing to that third and pig all 08:01:15.920 --> 08:01:19.840 things considered he's lost 31 villagers his economy looks kind of clean 08:01:19.840 --> 08:01:24.080 I'm not gonna lie very balanced very solid he's already bringing in the second 08:01:24.080 --> 08:01:27.280 relic as well that's good actually he's bringing in two at the same time 08:01:27.280 --> 08:01:31.040 right now that presence of mind to go for the relics as well and again this 08:01:31.040 --> 08:01:35.800 messy very very nice macro and and kind of mentals through this game from 08:01:35.800 --> 08:01:39.960 pig picks a lot of skirmishers but no archers on the field for grubby so 08:01:39.960 --> 08:01:43.140 These scrims are not the most useful. The elephants maybe can get something done. 08:01:43.540 --> 08:01:46.800 Grabby has Tritels as an option from the castle if he wants it. 08:01:46.800 --> 08:01:51.200 30c from him at the back, a nice quick wall to keep the knights out, with a monk pushing them away. 08:01:52.040 --> 08:01:54.960 Yeah, so winning position for Grabby. 08:01:54.960 --> 08:01:59.960 I think we would probably still all agree at this point with the Ville advantage, but at what point do you start to get 08:02:00.040 --> 08:02:05.520 scared because of the Siv matchup, right? Like if you just let this game go on for too long. 08:02:05.520 --> 08:02:17.520 Yeah, I think IMF is when the Sivmacher really starts to get really bad for Ethiopians. It's that IMF scrimmage you talked about, Dash, that's just a huge option that Ethiopians don't really have a good counter to. 08:02:17.520 --> 08:02:26.520 For now, the Camels will push away the Knights, so like Grubby can kind of recover and stabilize here, but if this game goes to an even late game, the enemies have the Sivmage advantage quite clearly. 08:02:26.520 --> 08:02:31.240 quite clearly. However, we did see Grubby win with a citizen advantage in late game in that game 08:02:31.240 --> 08:02:35.640 once. Keep that in mind as the skirmishers walk in, but so far Pig is not really concerned about 08:02:35.640 --> 08:02:41.720 late game. He wants to push and keep the pressure on. Like this, pick away at the woodlines, right? 08:02:41.720 --> 08:02:46.200 That's Grubby's weakness right now. Yeah. He's got those two weirdo woodlines at the back. 08:02:46.200 --> 08:02:49.640 There's that big one forward, but the castle doesn't really protect that that well. 08:02:50.840 --> 08:02:56.040 You just forced him to panic, man. It's a random elephant. Yeah, it just goes in and 08:02:56.040 --> 08:03:01.040 That elephant had a really funny life and I like that we made him but he didn't really accomplish anything. 08:03:01.040 --> 08:03:05.040 Skirmishers do soft counter the camels, it's kind of like a situation where both can kill each other. 08:03:05.040 --> 08:03:09.040 Villager does go down and overall the game is kind of stabilizing. 08:03:09.040 --> 08:03:14.040 Grubby with more villagers but weaker economy in terms of the eco upgrades, at least slightly weaker. 08:03:16.040 --> 08:03:21.040 He's also lost, like the res collected is way higher for Grubby but he's lost a lot more units as well. 08:03:21.040 --> 08:03:26.520 Well, yeah, if you look at the KD so a lot of that res is just in the graveyard right now 08:03:27.160 --> 08:03:29.160 Yeah, it's a good point. I keep that in mind 08:03:29.800 --> 08:03:34.800 But efficiency of trades and grab you had some barracks by the way to that barracks does not excite me at all 08:03:34.800 --> 08:03:38.600 I think you know show tells you already have a barracks for squires 08:03:38.600 --> 08:03:42.560 I think he's miss adding a second one. He thinks he didn't have one. I believe 08:03:43.960 --> 08:03:48.000 Things get messy yeah stage of a crazy game like this right you forget 08:03:48.000 --> 08:03:52.000 that you had to make a barracks to make the archer ranges earlier. 08:03:52.000 --> 08:03:54.300 He wants the upgrades for his showtels. 08:03:54.300 --> 08:03:54.800 Ouch! 08:03:54.800 --> 08:03:56.800 What is that siege workshop forward? 08:03:59.200 --> 08:04:00.000 Yeah, horse collar. 08:04:00.000 --> 08:04:01.500 He just got a horse collar. 08:04:01.500 --> 08:04:05.000 I know it's late, Dash, but I'd actually rather see him pick it up now 08:04:05.000 --> 08:04:08.100 than just forget about it all game, so it's really nasty. 08:04:08.100 --> 08:04:11.000 But like, at least it's in now before like, the super late game. 08:04:11.000 --> 08:04:11.700 It's not terrible. 08:04:11.700 --> 08:04:12.900 We still have 20 builds. 08:04:12.900 --> 08:04:14.600 Equalize the eco upgrades somewhat. 08:04:14.600 --> 08:04:16.300 Pig always staying one or two ahead. 08:04:16.300 --> 08:04:21.460 Grubby kind of reclaimed the middle map control with monks and camels, and dude, this game is an absolute banger so far. 08:04:21.460 --> 08:04:26.640 This is kind of gearing up to be set of the tournament depending on how the remaining games are playing out. 08:04:26.640 --> 08:04:32.960 Two Rangers at the back for Pig, looks like he's making his final imp transition here, and Dash, this is where we talked about the Vietnamese. 08:04:32.960 --> 08:04:38.720 Imp Skirm, Arbalest, just really good options that Ethiopians have to do something crazy to navigate around. 08:04:38.720 --> 08:04:45.760 Here's the Squires, the second Barracks was a mistake, so Grubby just put himself 175 wood behind just to not see that Barracks. 08:04:46.300 --> 08:04:49.740 That's the fourth Relic coming in for Pig by the way. 08:04:49.740 --> 08:04:50.740 Wow, 4-1 wow. 08:04:50.740 --> 08:04:51.740 That's insane. 08:04:51.740 --> 08:04:52.740 That's really good. 08:04:52.740 --> 08:04:53.740 Really nice. 08:04:53.740 --> 08:04:55.740 Unless the camels have something to say about it. 08:04:55.740 --> 08:04:56.740 Camels? 08:04:56.740 --> 08:04:57.740 Oh. 08:04:57.740 --> 08:04:58.740 I think Grubby knows. 08:04:58.740 --> 08:04:59.740 I think he saw it disappear from the map because he's also searching. 08:04:59.740 --> 08:05:01.860 See, he has a monk going to where that Relic will. 08:05:01.860 --> 08:05:05.420 Oh yeah, that's kind of true, but kind of misses that. 08:05:05.420 --> 08:05:09.220 Well, now they're just passing, so yeah, maybe, maybe not, maybe just on a scouting 08:05:09.220 --> 08:05:10.220 mission. 08:05:10.220 --> 08:05:11.220 Who knows. 08:05:11.220 --> 08:05:12.220 Either way, yeah, 4-Relic's going to be incredible. 08:05:12.220 --> 08:05:15.620 He actually, Pig is sitting on the resources that he could click up right now. 08:05:15.620 --> 08:05:20.860 I just don't know if he's just really thinking about dropping that second building and and and actually getting up 08:05:22.660 --> 08:05:28.160 Yeah, the one thing I don't like about grubby's base is all of his wood is in that one area 08:05:29.900 --> 08:05:37.180 Yes, pig were to go into cab arches or whatever and harass this grubby will have some serious issues and the other wood lines are very far away 08:05:37.660 --> 08:05:41.140 Yeah, it's like it kind of a double sword having that long wood line really good for early game 08:05:41.140 --> 08:05:43.540 But then they come in late game like the wood at the back is kind of 08:05:43.540 --> 08:05:50.540 saturated, there's no more wood that you can really take, and so you're all on this middle woodline, which could be easily counter-playable, 08:05:50.540 --> 08:05:57.540 but still, 70vills to 103, I feel like, grubby, if you can just kind of get a nice middle foothold with a stronger economy. 08:05:57.540 --> 08:05:59.540 This is a great position. Castle 4 though. 08:05:59.540 --> 08:06:01.540 This is like that castle from game 1. 08:06:01.540 --> 08:06:03.540 Bro, it's one villager. 08:06:03.540 --> 08:06:05.540 It's a 20 villager. 08:06:05.540 --> 08:06:06.540 One villager. 08:06:06.540 --> 08:06:08.540 He's got more coming in to help out. 08:06:08.540 --> 08:06:10.540 But it is... 08:06:10.540 --> 08:06:11.540 Dude, Pig? 08:06:11.540 --> 08:06:17.620 Funny take is missing his buildings for him. He's rushing to university with one villager. Oh my goodness, dude 08:06:17.620 --> 08:06:24.180 We need this yesterday. We've got he's not rushing that. Yeah, there's no rush about the government job, bro 08:06:24.180 --> 08:06:26.180 That's gonna be done in eight months 08:06:26.180 --> 08:06:29.040 By a week and by one week villager, right? 08:06:29.500 --> 08:06:32.140 This is good wall though on the castle here from grubby 08:06:32.140 --> 08:06:36.460 Just to make sure that he can't get it up because the only thing that's threatening it is those nights. Yeah 08:06:36.460 --> 08:06:37.460 Yeah. 08:06:37.460 --> 08:06:40.740 The pig is using a monk to dodge ballistics and keep him alive. 08:06:40.740 --> 08:06:41.740 That's ridiculous. 08:06:41.740 --> 08:06:44.220 There's no ballistics in, but there's two monks coming in. 08:06:44.220 --> 08:06:45.740 This castle could get denied, by the way. 08:06:45.740 --> 08:06:49.620 Two conversions, maybe? 08:06:49.620 --> 08:06:50.620 Imposite for Grubby, though. 08:06:50.620 --> 08:06:52.220 Yeah, I think it's going to go up. 08:06:52.220 --> 08:06:53.220 Oh my god. 08:06:53.220 --> 08:06:54.720 Pig will go for it. 08:06:54.720 --> 08:06:55.720 You know what? 08:06:55.720 --> 08:06:57.000 He goes for a countercastle over here. 08:06:57.000 --> 08:07:00.820 It's not going to be in time to deny that, but it should be in a good position 08:07:00.820 --> 08:07:02.540 to get trebs coming out. 08:07:02.540 --> 08:07:03.820 Finally, Impure Lich comes in. 08:07:03.820 --> 08:07:04.820 Yeah, dude. 08:07:04.820 --> 08:07:10.020 But in for Grubby faster as a crime, like we had the resources in for Pig a long time ago. 08:07:10.020 --> 08:07:12.820 Finally, Town Watch coming in just to give a little bit of extra vision. 08:07:12.820 --> 08:07:15.220 We'll take a look at how that does for his vision game. 08:07:15.220 --> 08:07:17.820 Grubby's got full middle map control for no reason, by the way. 08:07:17.820 --> 08:07:22.820 We have so many ranges that Grubby, or sorry, that Pig can just produce from, and he's not really going for that. 08:07:22.820 --> 08:07:26.420 I feel like Grubby has a really good window to just go for the middle. 08:07:26.420 --> 08:07:29.020 I don't like the Cavartres here at all, actually. 08:07:29.020 --> 08:07:31.220 Cavartres are sneaking into Grubby's base, though. 08:07:31.220 --> 08:07:34.980 If they sit in between those two TC's, this could be really, really solid. 08:07:34.980 --> 08:07:38.460 Grubby now stretching out to the center of the map, like you said. 08:07:38.900 --> 08:07:41.860 Very orderly archer range set up, actually. 08:07:41.860 --> 08:07:45.300 That's very pleasing, the way that he's built those. 08:07:45.300 --> 08:07:46.260 I was talking about this. 08:07:46.260 --> 08:07:48.860 Noobs and pros make their archer ranges like this. 08:07:48.860 --> 08:07:51.420 The mid ELOS make them in like crazy positions. 08:07:51.420 --> 08:07:53.060 Oh, yeah. Didn't really care about that. 08:07:53.060 --> 08:07:55.060 It's that classic belcher. 08:07:57.540 --> 08:07:59.260 Those chateaux raids as well constantly. 08:07:59.260 --> 08:08:03.780 Grubby has this thing about him where he constantly just raids a little bit like just one or two units 08:08:03.780 --> 08:08:09.180 You'll always do this just to keep his opponent thinking and not let him have like that free game and that passive 08:08:09.280 --> 08:08:13.660 Kind of set up a nice cabber just in the back though, you know pig with ballistics here. These guys are scary 08:08:14.100 --> 08:08:16.520 This is a minor thing, but I'm pretty sure pig 08:08:17.300 --> 08:08:19.560 Targeted grubby's castle with his castle, right? 08:08:19.560 --> 08:08:23.980 Because otherwise every time a showtel would come out his turn his castle would retarget onto it 08:08:23.980 --> 08:08:24.860 And he has ballistics 08:08:24.860 --> 08:08:28.960 He would pretty much kill every showtel that's been produced by Castle alone and instead 08:08:29.300 --> 08:08:36.700 All those arrows are going into the castle of of grubby. Yeah royal airs coming in from grubby. Does he go showtels? 08:08:38.060 --> 08:08:43.260 I don't like I mean it will help against the cab archers a little bit, right? Yeah, it's not bad 08:08:43.260 --> 08:08:44.980 But I don't really like showtels as their main army 08:08:44.980 --> 08:08:47.700 I feel like honestly, we don't see scrims on the field 08:08:47.700 --> 08:08:51.580 Just literally go our bless here like we don't see scrims. He's he's gonna our bless 08:08:51.580 --> 08:08:57.580 Maybe he plays Arblest plus Shorthalus, double gold comp, a bit dicey because he doesn't have the relics, of course 4 for Pig. 08:08:57.580 --> 08:09:07.580 Pig's going to go for a castle defensively here. We haven't talked about the Wrath and Archer as a possibility for Pig, but it is a really good anti-Archer from the castle if he wants to go for that. 08:09:07.580 --> 08:09:11.580 But Pig so far, only cow archers. I haven't really seen his Imperial Age game plan. 08:09:11.580 --> 08:09:15.580 And if it's going to be cow archers, it's not really the best in E.T. Open Arbs. 08:09:15.580 --> 08:09:24.060 You go in skirm, you go like in skirm halibright to push this back initially and then figure 08:09:24.060 --> 08:09:25.060 it out from there. 08:09:25.060 --> 08:09:30.480 A lot of production for Grubby, I love this level of production from those beautiful ranges 08:09:30.480 --> 08:09:33.260 up at the front and he's going to start to overwhelm. 08:09:33.260 --> 08:09:36.860 Pig needs to finish that castle on the left and needs to get all of his upgrades in if 08:09:36.860 --> 08:09:37.860 he's going to hard commit. 08:09:37.860 --> 08:09:38.860 Yeah, I believe in Trembler. 08:09:38.860 --> 08:09:42.820 Trembler on the bottom, Pig faster with his Trevor shade despite Grubby having faster 08:09:42.820 --> 08:09:53.820 Yeah, the numbers are just overall there right now for Grubby as compared to Pig. Pig also having to deal with pressure from two different sides. It does look like he's going to deal with this castle from Grubby though as he's got two trebuchets out. 08:09:53.820 --> 08:09:58.980 Grubby's gonna have a lot more control with 40 extra villagers. I see him as the leading favorite for this game 08:10:00.960 --> 08:10:07.980 Yeah, the numbers are just overall there right now for Grubby as compared to pig pig also having to deal with pressure from two different sides 08:10:07.980 --> 08:10:13.640 It does look like he's gonna deal with this castle from Grubby though as he's got two trebuchets out onto the field 08:10:14.300 --> 08:10:17.100 Dude dash because you right-click the castle 08:10:17.100 --> 08:10:21.980 He's also not hitting these villagers repairing because you right-click the castle is a castle do that one click 08:10:21.980 --> 08:10:26.140 this cost pig so much and he doesn't even realize it right now armor coming in 08:10:26.140 --> 08:10:28.460 though for the cowlarsher's it's gonna be good for the skirmishers as well walked 08:10:28.460 --> 08:10:31.220 past the Maginot shock and make sure it works that it's of course imperialist 08:10:31.220 --> 08:10:35.700 army ruby with our bless to try and test it if you have an arbs where's the 08:10:35.700 --> 08:10:38.060 imp skirm 08:10:38.060 --> 08:10:42.620 that's the sound from grubby the trev is still working way on that castle 08:10:42.620 --> 08:10:47.000 from pig though so it could still fall yeah only two of those repairing the 08:10:47.000 --> 08:10:50.420 castle will die to the trev unless pig can react to this doesn't seem 08:10:50.420 --> 08:10:53.760 like it's his priority though he's on the map with the cow archers we're not 08:10:53.760 --> 08:10:58.180 seeing a skirmish of production only now actually imp skirm tech is beautiful we 08:10:58.180 --> 08:11:01.340 need to see that come through if that comes through I favor pig's position a 08:11:01.340 --> 08:11:05.580 lot but if you forgets about it which is a very real thing then I'm not sure if 08:11:05.580 --> 08:11:11.360 I like his position all the castle went down from pig against one treb 08:11:11.360 --> 08:11:14.720 little imperial skirm is coming in right now but you know this whole 08:11:14.720 --> 08:11:19.780 Watching in dude. I love that. He just is the whole he just needs to hold she into a tower though 08:11:19.780 --> 08:11:26.320 This might be a little bit ambitious here from grubby. Yeah full armor on the skirmishers by the way Vietnamese scrims even without mScrub upgrade 08:11:26.320 --> 08:11:31.640 They're still tanky grubby goes in way too deep. He's got a back out loses a lot of expensive Arbalest these costs gold 08:11:31.640 --> 08:11:34.440 Remember that it doesn't have the relics as well only one relic for grubby 08:11:34.640 --> 08:11:38.900 Scorley does neck and neck and ladies and gents you have 30,000 plus viewers watching this game right now 08:11:38.920 --> 08:11:44.160 Give it up for age vampires 2 in 2026 getting these numbers is fantastic. Thank you all for being here 08:11:44.160 --> 08:11:48.760 Of course, Imperial Lich now, a big battle going out between the Skirms and the Arblest. 08:11:48.760 --> 08:11:49.960 This is no match though. 08:11:49.960 --> 08:11:51.860 Arblest cannot fight these Impskirms at all. 08:11:52.860 --> 08:11:54.360 We also have to surround him at the back again. 08:11:54.360 --> 08:11:54.860 We also have to surround him at the back again. 08:11:54.860 --> 08:11:55.360 Nothing. 08:11:56.360 --> 08:11:56.860 Yes! 08:11:56.860 --> 08:11:58.460 Over that gold over there! 08:11:58.660 --> 08:12:00.660 Do not lose your Trebs right now! 08:12:02.860 --> 08:12:04.160 He's actually repairing. 08:12:04.160 --> 08:12:07.460 He might kill these Trebs from Pig in the long term if Pig doesn't realize. 08:12:07.460 --> 08:12:10.560 Because obviously he's more concerned with the front of his base. 08:12:10.960 --> 08:12:12.460 Does deal with that battering ram. 08:12:12.460 --> 08:12:17.140 He does have imperial skirmish rain. Are we finally turning that corner guys? 08:12:17.140 --> 08:12:22.540 It's a very nice raid again from pig at the back is so nice. It's just a constant constant pressure there 08:12:22.900 --> 08:12:28.900 Elephants are being added in one of them goes over for that trebby tries to quick wall the trip against the elephant 08:12:28.900 --> 08:12:31.340 And it's too distraughty with the villagers. Oh 08:12:32.180 --> 08:12:34.180 My goodness, this is too funny 08:12:34.380 --> 08:12:36.860 The wall is gonna maybe tank some of the strip shots 08:12:36.860 --> 08:12:40.860 No, not quite that that will work on that dead wall and he's gonna go for that trap 08:12:40.860 --> 08:12:44.760 But more importantly maybe on the front here the mscrums are pushing back the arbalest 08:12:44.760 --> 08:12:50.980 They're also diving it off that ballboard beautiful play with from pig these mscrums are really living up to the name three elephants 08:12:50.980 --> 08:12:54.160 Diving the siege as well dude pig is killing it pig is killing it right now 08:12:54.160 --> 08:13:00.780 I think this probably with repair though. You kind of get the sense that grumby's maybe crumbling a little bit here 08:13:00.780 --> 08:13:06.060 He's losing the trip over on the right side still trying to repair it with that villager lots of arbalest going down 08:13:06.060 --> 08:13:13.060 His ego is looking a little frazzled as well as Pig comes in with skirmisher raids. 08:13:13.060 --> 08:13:20.060 We talked about the elite skirm and the imp skirm from Vietnamese from the very start 08:13:20.060 --> 08:13:21.060 of the game. 08:13:21.060 --> 08:13:23.060 It's been the cornerstone of the matchup really. 08:13:23.060 --> 08:13:26.260 Grubby was very aware, he's played this matchup a ton on the ladder, very aware 08:13:26.260 --> 08:13:27.580 of how strong this is. 08:13:27.580 --> 08:13:29.860 Tried the end of the game early, Pig's resilience has brought him to the slave 08:13:29.860 --> 08:13:30.860 game. 08:13:30.860 --> 08:13:33.860 Chotel's on the field though, sniping a trebuchet, huge to buy some time 08:13:33.860 --> 08:13:34.860 for Grubby. 08:13:34.860 --> 08:13:38.780 even though I feel like in the lake in here with the relics pig is heavily 08:13:38.780 --> 08:13:44.740 favored still a messy game favorite should be favored but his base is kind 08:13:44.740 --> 08:13:47.820 of falling apart right you lost the castle on the right-hand side he's lost 08:13:47.820 --> 08:13:51.580 the TC so there's not a lot of safety for villagers he was struggling now to 08:13:51.580 --> 08:13:54.540 find some wood as the showtels are making quick work of all those 08:13:54.540 --> 08:14:01.060 villagers yeah paper money it's a good upgrade it's gonna make his lumber 08:14:01.060 --> 08:14:04.960 checks generate gold passively as they chop wood it's decent chat loves paper 08:14:04.960 --> 08:14:08.060 money like every time everybody comes in the chat like oh my god he got paper 08:14:08.060 --> 08:14:12.040 money but it's really not that huge of a deal it is nice to pick up though and pay 08:14:12.040 --> 08:14:15.880 kind of setting up that late game kudos to him he loses another bomber can 08:14:15.880 --> 08:14:20.960 oh as soon as this cast goes down grubby is gonna be wide open through the 08:14:20.960 --> 08:14:24.360 center yeah so his pressure coming in on the sides with the scurns and there's 08:14:24.360 --> 08:14:27.520 that wood situation we've been talking about here that woodline is 08:14:27.520 --> 08:14:31.080 running out and then where does he go oh my god it's a traffic jam the villagers 08:14:31.080 --> 08:14:35.000 looking for a home a lot of them homeless even like nothing up top it's a bear in 08:14:35.000 --> 08:14:39.220 top side there is like a small sneaky woodland the corner grubby kind of 08:14:39.220 --> 08:14:41.840 sees a kind of sees the stone as well it's got some options that the rates 08:14:41.840 --> 08:14:45.000 from pig have been pretty solid and now the bombers and pig pushing down the 08:14:45.000 --> 08:14:48.920 center pig with a cast of the corner like dude pig is pushing the win for 08:14:48.920 --> 08:14:54.160 pig I can't believe it what a defense from him early in the mid game in the 08:14:54.160 --> 08:14:59.040 late game he's just held and held and held and now he's got his composition ready to go. 08:15:00.080 --> 08:15:04.240 Yeah, Imskirm, Bombards, he's hacking into Light Cab, he's got some elephants dude. 08:15:04.240 --> 08:15:09.200 Pig is really showing off for the series. Don't rush it though, we got that when he 08:15:09.200 --> 08:15:12.560 late game, we got the relics. I'd like to see him control this left side hill as well. 08:15:12.560 --> 08:15:16.720 We have a little bit of a pause. Just kind of let the anticipation simmer here. 08:15:16.720 --> 08:15:18.800 What a game it's been, what a series it's been so far. 08:15:19.760 --> 08:15:20.400 Yeah, drink it. 08:15:20.400 --> 08:15:25.500 This is air conditioner is off. I can't imagine playing a sweaty game like this with the AC 08:15:27.080 --> 08:15:30.380 This is sweaty in game and out dude the Michael the grubby doing 08:15:31.320 --> 08:15:34.460 Holy need that AC of course cool it down 08:15:36.040 --> 08:15:40.120 I'm actually like taking a moment to just like to look at pigs base and again 08:15:40.120 --> 08:15:44.460 I'm just wildly impressed under all this pressure the expansion that he did to the left-hand side of the map 08:15:44.460 --> 08:15:51.940 And Grubby never did. He went through the center, but now he's been pushed off the castle. He was taking pigs stone 08:15:51.940 --> 08:15:56.780 He was taking pigs gold. He wasn't really looking for outside resources on his own side of the map 08:15:57.740 --> 08:16:00.080 And he's wide open on that wood line, man 08:16:00.340 --> 08:16:02.380 Dude, yeah, this is for Lenten disaster 08:16:02.380 --> 08:16:05.100 But and a huge problem actually over the next few minutes 08:16:05.100 --> 08:16:08.580 But Grubby tried an expansion down bottom, but it kind of just got cleared out 08:16:08.580 --> 08:16:13.060 It was more like an aggressive expansion rather than castles on the hill like he had that choice 08:16:13.060 --> 08:16:17.620 So maybe Grubby, you know next time around won't go so far forward as expansion 08:16:17.620 --> 08:16:21.680 Just cast on the hill could have actually secured him more of the map something to consider for next time 08:16:21.680 --> 08:16:25.660 It was just desperate to win the game before Impsgrim set the field kind of hard to blame him 08:16:25.660 --> 08:16:28.820 But listen pig slow pushing down the center clearing the production 08:16:29.580 --> 08:16:30.900 Grubby preparing light calf 08:16:30.900 --> 08:16:34.580 We do have his SARS for Ethiopians if he wants to go for them, but missing armor 08:16:34.580 --> 08:16:36.700 They're not gonna be the most impressive the stars in the game. I 08:16:37.540 --> 08:16:42.340 Love this from Piggy's looking on the left side. He went for an outpost so he can see the skirmish come in 08:16:42.340 --> 08:16:48.220 He sends the light cab to the neutral gold in the south so he's gonna kill the villagers there from grubby 08:16:48.220 --> 08:16:54.680 And he has a monk seeing this mass migration of villagers from grubby if he notices it over on the right side too 08:16:55.340 --> 08:17:01.480 Yeah, that monk is standing on business right now, and I think these like ever already in prime position to continue rating those bills 08:17:01.480 --> 08:17:02.780 Let's see what happens. Wow 08:17:02.780 --> 08:17:07.260 Grubby. Oh grubby miss positions a little bit or is it on purpose? He's gonna take the hill 08:17:07.260 --> 08:17:08.780 It's gonna wrap around take the hill 08:17:08.780 --> 08:17:13.540 Doesn't want to get trapped in here from pig. They're gonna meet up. Did they even notice I? 08:17:14.260 --> 08:17:17.620 Have a party and grubby's gonna try and force this tower up 08:17:17.620 --> 08:17:23.320 I imagine although right now the bills are just passed on to the gold and so instead this light cab is gonna feast on the right-hand side 08:17:24.060 --> 08:17:27.340 It's a disaster grubby. It's a disaster for grubby over here 08:17:29.180 --> 08:17:31.300 And they look on a zoom business call and 08:17:32.500 --> 08:17:36.780 Waiting see what's going on that one like I was doing more than more than his paycheck 08:17:36.780 --> 08:17:40.760 deserves I think but look at the middle of the map man big push grubby's gonna 08:17:40.760 --> 08:17:45.720 lose the castle yeah they'll open this base up like a can opener dude it just 08:17:45.720 --> 08:17:49.080 go right through the middle and grubby tried something just like all of his 08:17:49.080 --> 08:17:52.960 production he tried to position on a hill tried something like maneuver around 08:17:52.960 --> 08:17:56.520 this this force that pig has had outside of his base but he kind of got 08:17:56.520 --> 08:17:59.160 caught out on that and there's just too much like have your kind of like 08:17:59.160 --> 08:18:02.600 pressure from pig the relic is out there for the taking as well the 08:18:02.600 --> 08:18:06.280 rogue show cows are not gonna help what a game pig goes up to one against the 08:18:06.280 --> 08:18:11.160 favorite of the tournament. What a performance from Pig. If you think back to Grubby in futile age, 08:18:11.160 --> 08:18:16.440 he had that sneaky two ranges. Pig lost like 15 villagers in futile to see this snapshot of a total 08:18:16.440 --> 08:18:23.320 domination from Pig is wild. What a game, potentially game of the tournament. He was like 08:18:23.320 --> 08:18:27.800 one of those punching bags. You punch it and it bounces right back up at you. Again, 08:18:27.800 --> 08:18:31.320 it's like the whole game. Grubby just kept punching and punching and punching 08:18:31.320 --> 08:18:34.920 and Pig just bouncing back up and eventually Grubby got tired. 08:18:34.920 --> 08:18:38.700 Yeah, he just got tired and he couldn't do the damage. It's crazy 08:18:39.200 --> 08:18:44.380 I'm going all the way back to feudal age and what Dave called it the rewalling the 08:18:45.160 --> 08:18:50.240 Constant rewalling if he if if even like one of those instances of rewalling doesn't happen 08:18:50.240 --> 08:18:53.240 He gets overwhelmed the the presence of mine 08:18:53.240 --> 08:18:59.440 Cuz I think it's so easy in that panic to just evacuate the area and get away from the danger as opposed to 08:18:59.440 --> 08:19:04.400 moving forward, using those villagers, getting the walls up constantly, buying 08:19:04.400 --> 08:19:07.560 yourself that time so you eventually get enough of the counter unit, the skirmishers 08:19:07.560 --> 08:19:13.080 on, and like I thought Pig was doomed with his start with the lack of wood, with 08:19:13.080 --> 08:19:16.600 the you know with the lack of military buildings early, but just I mean the 08:19:16.600 --> 08:19:19.480 resilience that this guy has shown across all of the game so far is 08:19:19.480 --> 08:19:23.560 stunning. By the way, take a look at the eco-AD at the end of the game, 77 to 08:19:23.560 --> 08:19:29.320 76, so in the end Pig lost one more villager. Pig killed one more villager compared to Grubby 08:19:29.320 --> 08:19:34.920 Which is hilarious because it's like he turned back every stat that Grubby had on him just by even one 08:19:35.080 --> 08:19:39.280 And that's of course, thanks to the like have down bottom thanks to the expansions that he was doing 08:19:39.280 --> 08:19:42.960 I mean such a fantastic game this felt like a pro game by the way in a lot of ways 08:19:42.960 --> 08:19:47.160 So it really really big props to both players. They're just showing up. Oh 08:19:49.720 --> 08:19:51.000 Man 08:19:51.000 --> 08:19:55.600 Okay, what now? How do you how do you reset and go into the next game after something like that? 08:19:55.600 --> 08:20:03.100 But, you stole the question from there, yeah, I mean it's Krabby's home map, but like, we've kind of talked about how 08:20:04.100 --> 08:20:11.000 pig is probably more comfortable on close maps, right? And so at this point, you've lost on Arabia, you've lost on 08:20:12.100 --> 08:20:20.800 Regicide Fortress, do you choose to just go for arena to switch things up, but knowing that maybe you're playing into an even better map for your opponent? 08:20:25.600 --> 08:20:26.600 Uh... 08:20:26.600 --> 08:20:32.420 Grubby, are you taking a minute to think about this next match? 08:20:32.420 --> 08:20:34.120 I gave them the go-ahead that they can just go. 08:20:34.120 --> 08:20:37.280 I need a small bathroom break here, so Dave and Dash, you guys don't mind just filling 08:20:37.280 --> 08:20:38.280 in some commentary here. 08:20:38.280 --> 08:20:41.080 You have the cams on screen and see what they decide to go for. 08:20:41.080 --> 08:20:42.600 I'll be right back in just a minute. 08:20:42.600 --> 08:20:44.400 Oh, Dave, I don't know. 08:20:44.400 --> 08:20:45.400 I don't know what to talk about. 08:20:45.400 --> 08:20:49.320 Oh, dude, I don't know if we've ever been asked to fill time before, dude. 08:20:49.320 --> 08:20:50.320 Should we like... 08:20:50.320 --> 08:20:51.320 Should we do an ad first? 08:20:51.320 --> 08:20:52.320 No, no, no. 08:20:52.320 --> 08:20:59.320 No, there's a bunch of new people here dude, they don't know that. 08:20:59.320 --> 08:21:04.320 That joke goes over so many people's heads, but those who know know. 08:21:04.320 --> 08:21:06.320 Oh, too funny. 08:21:06.320 --> 08:21:07.320 Too funny. 08:21:07.320 --> 08:21:12.320 I mean, dude, I'm having a blast with this series just because it has subverted my expectations. 08:21:12.320 --> 08:21:17.320 Now, admittedly, I didn't really get to see any of Pig's ladder grind. 08:21:17.320 --> 08:21:22.820 You know, I was, you know, poking in and out of some streams and so grubby, sing, sing, 08:21:22.820 --> 08:21:26.220 uh, you know, ATRX, these are guys that I maybe saw a little bit more of. 08:21:26.220 --> 08:21:30.500 And I mean, pig though, it has just the, I think more than anything, what we've talked 08:21:30.500 --> 08:21:35.760 about is like, even in these panic situations, you'll see the panic for a moment. 08:21:35.760 --> 08:21:39.980 I think it'd be so easy at this level to just, just type GG and get out and move 08:21:39.980 --> 08:21:40.980 on. 08:21:40.980 --> 08:21:44.140 And the fact that he just, like you say, he just kind of springs back up, you 08:21:44.140 --> 08:21:48.700 know, after getting punched in the face, time and time again, it's so impressive. 08:21:49.340 --> 08:21:51.380 I wish I had that kind of mentality. 08:21:52.160 --> 08:21:58.060 I played against so many people at this same rating with my controller account. 08:21:58.140 --> 08:22:05.260 And when you get damaged like that crazy on or crazy early, rather people panic. 08:22:05.460 --> 08:22:09.500 And like you said, and people crumble and they resigned and they rage quit and 08:22:09.500 --> 08:22:11.560 they, they talk so much smack to you. 08:22:11.560 --> 08:22:18.960 And I have to almost go back and watch the mod and see if he's just chilling or if he's 08:22:18.960 --> 08:22:19.960 hyperventilating at the same time. 08:22:19.960 --> 08:22:20.960 That's true. 08:22:20.960 --> 08:22:21.960 I do really kind of want to see it from there. 08:22:21.960 --> 08:22:26.320 I'm not paying attention to their faces or cams or anything like that and I would love 08:22:26.320 --> 08:22:32.440 to see kind of at certain moments, you know, the look on his face and how he's finding 08:22:32.440 --> 08:22:33.440 composer. 08:22:33.440 --> 08:22:36.000 We're from the chat, by the way. 08:22:36.000 --> 08:22:37.000 I think he has fulfilling. 08:22:37.000 --> 08:22:43.120 Someone's saying Pig worked with survivalists last night and for a few hours on only his macro and build order 08:22:43.120 --> 08:22:46.520 So pig even into the last second has been kind of grinding out some builds 08:22:46.680 --> 08:22:50.920 Really taking the serious thing trying to come up with the best plan to take on grubby here 08:22:50.920 --> 08:22:53.360 It's really paid off. Whatever work he's done is paid off for sure 08:22:54.280 --> 08:22:58.960 Well, how about that actually I'm reading from your chat as well pig plays erg in Starcraft 2 08:22:58.960 --> 08:23:01.720 So he knows about losing workers being part of the macro cycle 08:23:01.720 --> 08:23:09.920 It's actually again, like that's something that I think is hard for newer players to understand because they're taught the importance of economy and villagers 08:23:10.120 --> 08:23:13.020 You know like it's one of the first things you learn in Age of Empires 08:23:13.120 --> 08:23:17.520 But sometimes that can lead to you like over protecting them right doing doing 08:23:17.960 --> 08:23:21.880 More than you need to to try and like save them as opposed to using them 08:23:22.040 --> 08:23:25.680 You know or understanding that like in a card game for example 08:23:25.680 --> 08:23:28.840 Like health is a resource that you can spend as long as you don't die, right? 08:23:28.840 --> 08:23:34.880 And so, like, villagers, you can expend them, not for no reason, but they are something that 08:23:34.880 --> 08:23:37.200 it's okay to lose as long as you're getting something in return. 08:23:37.200 --> 08:23:39.920 Yeah, there's a bit of a storyline, by the way. 08:23:39.920 --> 08:23:42.680 It's a bit of a Starcraft vs. Warcraft storyline. 08:23:42.680 --> 08:23:45.720 We saw that a bit earlier in some of the Thermals games. 08:23:45.720 --> 08:23:49.760 We saw that in some of the other guys, like Loco, representing the Starcraft community. 08:23:49.760 --> 08:23:52.440 We had Knopf representing the Warcraft community. 08:23:52.440 --> 08:23:53.840 And we're seeing it now with Grubby and Pig. 08:23:53.840 --> 08:23:55.640 I know we have a lot of people in the chat. 08:23:55.640 --> 08:23:59.160 people of course a with you fanatics but a lot of people are here supporting the 08:23:59.160 --> 08:24:02.520 starcraft guys and a lot of people are supporting the warcraft guys so it's nice 08:24:02.520 --> 08:24:06.400 to see like warcraft versus starcraft background and it's been back and forth 08:24:06.400 --> 08:24:10.560 honestly you guys are both elites which is kind of cool to see. 08:24:10.560 --> 08:24:14.440 I'm hearing some allegations that you snuck off to the bathroom to call 08:24:14.440 --> 08:24:16.840 Grebby. 08:24:16.840 --> 08:24:22.680 I called them from the bathroom like I usually do a little small call I 08:24:22.680 --> 08:24:27.440 Have to just give him a little pep talk no coaching or anything just kind of all psychological all mental 08:24:28.280 --> 08:24:33.020 By the way if take wins his next game. He's disqualified. All right grubby's moving on for sure 08:24:33.020 --> 08:24:35.020 I make that clear for everyone 08:24:35.060 --> 08:24:40.680 My turn to make the rules none of this pig upset shit grubby's moving on. Let's see though. I 08:24:42.920 --> 08:24:46.360 Can't even believe to like the series that we have ahead of us 08:24:46.360 --> 08:24:49.440 Yeah, let's talk about that a little bit. 08:24:49.440 --> 08:24:54.040 Like, to think that, right, yeah, like, think about the players you're still in, like the 08:24:54.040 --> 08:24:58.080 winner of this moves on to face Captain Lance, that's going to be epic. 08:24:58.080 --> 08:25:02.720 We still have Uthermo versus Wagamama, loser of this drops down to play Knoff, like there 08:25:02.720 --> 08:25:06.640 are still so many heavy hitters and so many good matchups in front of us. 08:25:06.640 --> 08:25:11.360 By the way, if Grubby loses this to Pig, Grubby and Uthermo with a top two yellows 08:25:11.360 --> 08:25:14.800 on the ranked ladder, one of them will die for sure by the time Luzer Brackett 08:25:14.800 --> 08:25:19.160 semifinal comes around even if it'll get upset earlier. So there's like a lot of 08:25:19.160 --> 08:25:23.120 stay here. Pig getting this upset will be huge for the tournaments and even if 08:25:23.120 --> 08:25:25.880 Grubby makes it through of course it's still got Captain Lance in that upper 08:25:25.880 --> 08:25:29.360 bracket final. Of course tomorrow we have the four finals. We're gonna have okay 08:25:29.360 --> 08:25:32.400 I have the loser bracket semifinal tomorrow then the loser bracket final 08:25:32.400 --> 08:25:36.960 upper bracket final and of course the final the grand final. So four matches 08:25:36.960 --> 08:25:41.160 the best of five tomorrow will be played. Still a lot of sets ahead of 08:25:41.160 --> 08:25:43.960 us and a lot of really good matchups here. These are the top six though. 08:25:43.960 --> 08:25:48.360 So the top six players in the tournament right now that we're watching it's it's pretty wild to think that if 08:25:48.920 --> 08:25:54.720 If grabby loses this he has to play his orc brethren in Knoth. Oh true 08:25:54.800 --> 08:26:00.040 Yes, the orc v orc Warcraft 3 bros have to go up against each other for elimination 08:26:00.360 --> 08:26:03.580 Yeah, and welcome mama representing the Dota community as well 08:26:03.580 --> 08:26:06.880 He's the last man standing it took on his Dota 2 brethren as well and sing sing 08:26:06.880 --> 08:26:10.920 So it's really cool following the different games the captain Lance representing 08:26:11.120 --> 08:26:13.600 Path of Exile on his own and he's got a solo carrying 08:26:13.600 --> 08:26:16.440 So shout out to Catalanus keeping that community involved. 08:26:16.440 --> 08:26:19.960 Slyfish thinks that a 10 gifted, Dereja earlier thinks that a 20 gifted as well. 08:26:19.960 --> 08:26:22.320 Appreciate all the subs and support, all the followers, 08:26:22.320 --> 08:26:24.760 even the people just watching the stream, you guys are all legends, 08:26:24.760 --> 08:26:28.360 making this tournament a huge success and you guys are the reason we're doing this. 08:26:28.360 --> 08:26:32.280 So let's see, I think Grubby now, it's his home map. 08:26:32.280 --> 08:26:35.000 They've taken a little bit of a break, but I see on the camps 08:26:35.000 --> 08:26:36.560 that they're both back and locked in. 08:26:36.560 --> 08:26:38.560 I feel like the game could have just started. 08:26:38.560 --> 08:26:39.520 Yeah, it has started. 08:26:39.520 --> 08:26:41.080 It's Arena. Oh my God. 08:26:41.080 --> 08:26:43.280 Grubby's picked Arena. 08:26:43.280 --> 08:26:44.280 Yeah, it happens. 08:26:44.280 --> 08:26:50.600 Like you said, Hera, earlier, Burgunians, Bohemians, and we know the storyline between 08:26:50.600 --> 08:26:51.600 these SIVs, right? 08:26:51.600 --> 08:26:58.720 Grubby's going to play Meta, and Pig is probably just going to try and get his 4TC set up, 08:26:58.720 --> 08:27:00.840 go in and then push Grubby back. 08:27:00.840 --> 08:27:01.840 We'll see if he can do it again. 08:27:01.840 --> 08:27:04.640 It's a little bit of camera work on my end. 08:27:04.640 --> 08:27:06.400 Dash, take it away, man. 08:27:06.400 --> 08:27:10.680 I mean, Bohemians, Burgunians, the matchup we've seen already, right? 08:27:10.680 --> 08:27:15.480 And so if these players have been paying attention to the way that previous series have gone, 08:27:15.480 --> 08:27:18.560 I'm curious if they've learned anything from it. 08:27:18.560 --> 08:27:25.160 I still expect Pig to be the aggressor in this matchup. 08:27:25.160 --> 08:27:28.680 Just as, you know, Rubby tried, I think, to switch things up on that Arabia, but it's 08:27:28.680 --> 08:27:32.720 not his tendency, and particularly on Arena with Burgundians. 08:27:32.720 --> 08:27:37.880 He feels very practiced and kind of going for that very economy-focused, relic-focused 08:27:37.880 --> 08:27:40.120 approach. 08:27:40.120 --> 08:27:43.000 And so I think the question just becomes, how can Pig disrupt that? 08:27:43.000 --> 08:27:47.320 Um, I'll tell you, as he ages, and is it fast in? 08:27:47.320 --> 08:27:50.240 I'll tell you what Pig does on this map. 08:27:50.240 --> 08:27:51.240 He's been doing a lot. 08:27:51.240 --> 08:27:55.400 I've actually been watching a lot of late night Pig streaming Perfect for my time zone. 08:27:55.400 --> 08:27:59.760 He likes to do, it's something a little unorthodox, he likes to do a castle defensively with 08:27:59.760 --> 08:28:03.360 the Bohemians, a few of his sight wagons to contest the relics, counter the light 08:28:03.360 --> 08:28:06.680 cap opening that Grubby usually likes to do, and then he just booms behind it. 08:28:06.680 --> 08:28:09.720 It's not an all-in build, like something like Captain Lance would cook up, where he'd 08:28:09.720 --> 08:28:12.440 go like Castle at home, or maybe even Castle forward. 08:28:12.440 --> 08:28:16.060 It's just a Castle at home, Relic control, and just a boom, straight into the Bohemian 08:28:16.060 --> 08:28:17.060 leggame comp. 08:28:17.060 --> 08:28:20.440 For the viewers at home, the Bohemian leggame comp is widely considered to be the best 08:28:20.440 --> 08:28:22.240 leggame comp in Age of Empires 2. 08:28:22.240 --> 08:28:26.040 It's a Hoofnies, Halberdier, and maybe some Hankinators mixed in there. 08:28:26.040 --> 08:28:27.560 Very powerful, should he get there. 08:28:27.560 --> 08:28:29.200 He's gonna have a good advantage. 08:28:29.200 --> 08:28:32.200 Grubby though, with the Burgundians, it's an eco-based civilization, and it's 08:28:32.200 --> 08:28:33.440 a relic-based civilization. 08:28:33.440 --> 08:28:36.080 They get food for the relic, not just gold. 08:28:36.080 --> 08:28:41.280 Grubby likely to go light cap and contest the relics try to snag maybe four or five for himself and pig 08:28:41.280 --> 08:28:45.600 Like I said likely to play towards the inside wagon. So that's kind of what you expect strategically from both players 08:28:47.360 --> 08:28:52.280 It's it's a matchup that gets better for bohemians the later the game goes 08:28:52.320 --> 08:28:57.400 Which is critical here unless you can starve them out of gold, which is the game plan with grabbing those relics early 08:28:58.000 --> 08:29:01.600 And getting Burgundian vineyards, which is the unique tech for Burgundians 08:29:01.600 --> 08:29:03.400 It gives them a little bit gold from the farms 08:29:03.400 --> 08:29:10.800 Yeah, he will play towards that, but he still has to hit a timing if he can't deny all of the relics if he can't deny the 08:29:11.480 --> 08:29:15.580 Golds forward on on pig space and pig is allowed to get into all of his tech 08:29:16.600 --> 08:29:21.760 Technologies it's gonna be a problem for grubby. It's definitely gonna be an issue and you we've seen pig 08:29:22.340 --> 08:29:25.160 With the late game armies be pretty successful, right? 08:29:25.500 --> 08:29:31.740 Yeah, dude. He said a good late game like grubby. Maybe that game one kind of out micro macroed him in the late game 08:29:31.740 --> 08:29:36.380 outrinded him, but Pig didn't seem weak at all. I think he's forgotten some upgrades, 08:29:36.380 --> 08:29:40.460 potential first game of the day, Nervous as well, but Pig is like a game that is by no means 08:29:40.460 --> 08:29:46.740 like anything weaker than Grubby's, or not much weaker than Grubby's at least, and also Pig's 08:29:46.740 --> 08:29:52.300 bohemian is his main civ. He's put in a lot of games on Arena bohemians. To be fair, 08:29:52.300 --> 08:29:57.020 so has Grubby from Burgundians, but I do expect to be seeing a prime Pig here with the 08:29:57.020 --> 08:30:04.020 behemoths. One major difference in the Dark Ages, Grubby took the time to push in his deer 08:30:04.020 --> 08:30:08.860 before going out to scout. Pig did not push in any deer. He might be coming back now with 08:30:08.860 --> 08:30:14.140 the scout to do that. Grubby also did not snag two of his geese. They're just sitting 08:30:14.140 --> 08:30:16.820 there. I'm sure he'll grab them at some point maybe with those villagers that are 08:30:16.820 --> 08:30:20.300 building the mill, but just don't want to forget those. He'll be wondering why you're 08:30:20.300 --> 08:30:24.980 missing some food later. They kind of blend in with the snow though. Maybe he doesn't 08:30:24.980 --> 08:30:30.180 see him bro. He needs that no snow mod. I'm looking at a no snow mod and they're like super 08:30:30.180 --> 08:30:36.660 super visible. He's got that snow. It could be a little tricky. By the way, I'm getting a comment 08:30:36.660 --> 08:30:40.660 from the chat. Pig has never played wool on the ladder. That was a hidden strategy and it 08:30:40.660 --> 08:30:47.220 prepared Ziv for that first win. That is survivalist 100% right? Yeah, that's that 08:30:47.940 --> 08:30:53.140 coaching fashion. Sick, but I love to see that like part of my vision for this term 08:30:53.140 --> 08:30:57.860 was having the pro players come in and coach these guys up obviously the knowledge gap was going to be 08:30:57.860 --> 08:31:02.660 the big problem for them learning like 53 saves also how to play the game but the coaches coming in 08:31:02.660 --> 08:31:06.980 and showing them some cool strategies has been a pinnacle to making this tournament a success and 08:31:06.980 --> 08:31:10.180 dude shout out to survivalist putting in those late night hours with pig love to see that 08:31:12.260 --> 08:31:15.700 oh wait survivalist says i will take no credit for woo that was all pig 08:31:15.700 --> 08:31:17.700 Oh wait what? 08:31:19.980 --> 08:31:21.980 No, no 08:31:24.100 --> 08:31:29.660 That's a drip that's dr. Agastar's death dr. Agastar that dragon sir also coach mr. 08:31:29.660 --> 08:31:34.020 Llama on the karem at Ram did not we got some sneaky coaches it could have been pig listen 08:31:34.020 --> 08:31:36.140 I don't want to credit away from pig maybe he's come up with it 08:31:36.140 --> 08:31:39.820 But there are some sneaky coaches don't disrespect the doctor like that 08:31:41.500 --> 08:31:45.680 Wow survival is saying that he coached pig though for about 30 hours probably that 08:31:45.700 --> 08:31:47.180 That's amazing. 08:31:47.180 --> 08:31:48.180 That's dedication. 08:31:50.140 --> 08:31:52.140 Shadows of wireless man, love it. 08:31:52.140 --> 08:31:56.220 Eudel, 22ville, Fetal Age for Pig? 08:31:56.220 --> 08:31:57.700 Yeah, that's fast, no? 08:31:57.700 --> 08:31:58.540 No, I think he's a bit fast. 08:31:58.540 --> 08:31:59.380 Oh, that's fast? 08:31:59.380 --> 08:32:01.620 Oh, he's already going on the stone right now. 08:32:01.620 --> 08:32:03.140 Oh my goodness, he ended this fast. 08:32:03.140 --> 08:32:03.980 That's an all-in build. 08:32:03.980 --> 08:32:05.540 That's not the defensive castle. 08:32:05.540 --> 08:32:07.300 That's three on wood, it's all in. 08:32:07.300 --> 08:32:10.060 Oh my God, oh my God, he's in all in it. 08:32:10.060 --> 08:32:11.020 With wagons. 08:32:12.020 --> 08:32:14.540 That's something he's never shown. 08:32:14.540 --> 08:32:15.540 I think he'll make it forward, yes. 08:32:15.540 --> 08:32:20.020 forward okay because I've watched a lot of pig and and the bill to do that home 08:32:20.020 --> 08:32:23.880 was always later than 23 this is looking like an all-in-build he's adapted it for 08:32:23.880 --> 08:32:27.000 grubby specifically taking advantage of the fact that we're guardians typically 08:32:27.000 --> 08:32:30.920 up a little later grubby just now click the feudal he's like a minute and a half 08:32:30.920 --> 08:32:37.600 behind minute 40 seconds dude pigs and all in this one that's crazy and pigs 08:32:37.600 --> 08:32:42.120 should have enough food maybe he has to buy under food no he should be good 08:32:42.120 --> 08:32:46.480 Actually, he's got still one turkey left over a goose or whatever. He's still got some berries 08:32:46.480 --> 08:32:50.400 It's gonna build a mark in the blacksmith at the back here not grabbing loom 08:32:51.480 --> 08:32:57.200 Because this build is so tight, but that could be a potential talking point later if he comes forward 08:32:57.240 --> 08:33:00.320 No, no, okay. No loom. I think you keep it at home 08:33:00.320 --> 08:33:04.920 But still that that will just like the all-in build I feel maybe I'm maybe I'm would just walk them 08:33:04.920 --> 08:33:06.920 But I don't know no, I 08:33:06.920 --> 08:33:14.360 I think you're right that it's the all-on builds. I think it could bite him that he's not going for for loom 08:33:14.600 --> 08:33:19.360 It's just about whether or not this grubby actually produce any military before hitting castle edge, right? 08:33:19.360 --> 08:33:22.240 Like he's got the barracks down, so he's prepared to drop his stable 08:33:22.920 --> 08:33:24.600 as one of his 08:33:24.600 --> 08:33:26.440 castle edge buildings, but 08:33:26.440 --> 08:33:30.880 Will he actually get scouts out onto the field before that those bills come forward listen dash? 08:33:30.880 --> 08:33:34.720 It's not about saving your villagers. It's about sending a message, okay? 08:33:34.720 --> 08:33:38.720 But we've learned anything from Pigeon, not about passing villagers. 08:33:38.720 --> 08:33:40.720 Oh yeah, true. 08:33:40.720 --> 08:33:45.720 This guy will throw away 15 villagers to get that castle up and get the pressure going, man. 08:33:45.720 --> 08:33:46.720 That's what we've learned about him. 08:33:46.720 --> 08:33:50.720 I will say, though, the three farms is looking increasingly like a defensive castle. 08:33:50.720 --> 08:33:53.720 So I think maybe I was getting too much into that faster uptime. 08:33:53.720 --> 08:33:59.720 Still, there is a chance he descends it forward, but, you know, what he's practiced is the defensive castle. 08:33:59.720 --> 08:34:02.720 So if he does that, I'm almost more excited to see the defensive castle, 08:34:02.720 --> 08:34:08.260 I want to see if what he's practiced is actually good enough to take down grubby's Burgundians grubby with a stable market build 08:34:08.260 --> 08:34:10.240 That's exactly what he's practiced with the Burgundians 08:34:10.240 --> 08:34:13.280 They like to go like have to control the map grab those relics 08:34:13.280 --> 08:34:18.320 We already talked about why Burgundians want the relics early and grubby a little bit later to castlage 08:34:18.320 --> 08:34:20.760 But that's kind of standard and so it's nothing out of the ordinary 08:34:20.760 --> 08:34:24.240 You're not gonna send the bills at least make a house, please pick true 08:34:24.240 --> 08:34:28.460 I hate this when you have all day you're going up and you're not really doing anything, right? 08:34:28.460 --> 08:34:33.880 And then you get to the castle age and you realize you can't make anything cuz you don't have a house. Yeah, that's true 08:34:41.660 --> 08:34:45.700 If he's not out with the villas it's a defensive castle for sure, but Dave like you said there's no house 08:34:45.700 --> 08:34:50.980 He's gonna get house. That's gonna be nasty. It's not a game-looting mistake, but my god. I just no no 08:34:51.500 --> 08:34:53.100 There's the house 08:34:53.100 --> 08:34:56.700 Yeah, we don't really want loom because we don't want it. We're staying home 08:34:56.700 --> 08:35:04.700 That's when you'll get it, if he ended up cast, but house is coming up just a little bit of idle TC time as a result. 08:35:04.700 --> 08:35:05.700 Not too bad. 08:35:05.700 --> 08:35:07.700 The village just starts producing again. 08:35:07.700 --> 08:35:08.700 Castle up? 08:35:08.700 --> 08:35:09.700 Alright. 08:35:09.700 --> 08:35:10.700 Defensive. 08:35:10.700 --> 08:35:13.700 Rubby would not have had the scouts in time, by the way. 08:35:13.700 --> 08:35:14.700 Yeah. 08:35:14.700 --> 08:35:15.700 Yeah, to stop the castle. 08:35:15.700 --> 08:35:16.700 I know. 08:35:16.700 --> 08:35:23.700 If you just sent it forward, some Yamato style, especially if you just sent 12 villagers, even if the first scout's out, you can just get the castle up. 08:35:23.700 --> 08:35:28.180 But it just wasn't Pig's style and it's not what he practiced, so I'm actually completely fine with him just doing it at home 08:35:28.180 --> 08:35:31.100 By the way, nice little adaptation from Pig 08:35:31.540 --> 08:35:34.620 He's doing the castle behind where the scout within scout 08:35:34.620 --> 08:35:39.220 So even if Grubby sticks to these walls and looks as deep as you can, he won't see the castle 08:35:39.220 --> 08:35:42.820 So Grubby is maybe thinking Pig is booming only and nothing more 08:35:44.620 --> 08:35:48.860 Yeah, I don't even think he sees the monastery at one tile away. Yeah 08:35:48.860 --> 08:35:52.860 So, Grabber's gonna kill you in the dark here. 30 seconds to cast this for him. 08:35:52.860 --> 08:35:57.860 Pig will go for a few Hussite wagons, looking to play for those relics, so it's not a pure boom for him. 08:35:57.860 --> 08:35:59.860 Notice there's no extra town sinners right now. 08:35:59.860 --> 08:36:03.860 He's gonna slowly get back on that stone, looking to get back to 100 and go for extra town sinners. 08:36:03.860 --> 08:36:07.860 But for now, he's more than happy to play towards that Hussite wagon-mong combo. 08:36:07.860 --> 08:36:11.860 Let me just tell you a little bit something about Bohemians. They get the free gold upgrades, 08:36:11.860 --> 08:36:14.860 and the free stone upgrades, they get both of them, for free. 08:36:14.860 --> 08:36:16.860 So normally they have to pay for both, wait for them to come in. 08:36:16.860 --> 08:36:19.720 in but he means don't do any of that they just get them for free with the 08:36:19.720 --> 08:36:21.840 civilization bonus 08:36:21.840 --> 08:36:26.280 reveal the house that wagon oh my god he is inside with a scouts that is a 08:36:26.280 --> 08:36:29.480 mistake I think from yeah is it not unless he steps the muck I think it's a 08:36:29.480 --> 08:36:35.920 mistake but step in the muck is good pick and block block that's worth it for 08:36:35.920 --> 08:36:41.320 grubby probably she also gets information right yeah he now knows that 08:36:41.320 --> 08:36:44.800 it's hussai wagons castle plus monastery he can continue to scout the back of 08:36:44.800 --> 08:36:48.720 base. He'll see that no extra TC's are up just yet. Knowing that at home he's dropping 08:36:48.720 --> 08:36:49.920 two extra TC's, so. 08:36:49.920 --> 08:36:50.920 Sick, yep. 08:36:50.920 --> 08:36:55.120 Already poised to, you know, be in the eco lead just due to being Burgundian's villager 08:36:55.120 --> 08:36:58.600 count about to explode, though he's housed as well right now, so getting the house up 08:36:58.600 --> 08:37:00.000 as quickly as he possibly can. 08:37:00.000 --> 08:37:03.600 I do like they snipped that monk by the way because that's going to slow down Pig's 08:37:03.600 --> 08:37:06.760 first relic, and that first relic is usually just a free one before the scouts 08:37:06.760 --> 08:37:11.080 are really in position. So now like the scouts are now in position, the next monk that 08:37:11.080 --> 08:37:14.760 comes out has to really be careful. The Hussetwagens could of course push back against 08:37:14.760 --> 08:37:18.920 the scout cavalry but they don't have that same mobility like a sight wagon is quite slow 08:37:18.920 --> 08:37:23.560 not that slow not like a manganale but still quite significant slower than a scout cavalry 08:37:24.680 --> 08:37:29.240 nice pig notices probably trying to keep track of these monks but the 08:37:29.240 --> 08:37:34.360 hussite wagons like you said they're just too slow yeah they can't catch up they can guard 08:37:34.360 --> 08:37:42.040 but they cannot chase oh my god oh my god come on dude dude hello what grab me both players 08:37:42.040 --> 08:37:47.320 Hello? Hello, players. Hello? Huh? Huh? No, no pig drew that up. Dude. He did the math 08:37:47.360 --> 08:37:52.420 Do you saw the line of sight on the scout? He absolutely just weaseled his way through there 08:37:52.420 --> 08:37:57.020 And he's gonna draw the scouts into the lense wagon. He's like I'll bring it to you truce 08:37:58.280 --> 08:38:00.580 Grab against that this one you might lose a scout for it though 08:38:02.560 --> 08:38:05.500 It's a loych me scouts. Oh sniped by pig 08:38:06.260 --> 08:38:11.460 Hey, one scout goes down another monk trying to get away with a relic here on the bottom side of the map 08:38:11.460 --> 08:38:16.020 but Grubby doing a great job of continuing to scout out. Will he notice that this relic is picked up? 08:38:16.660 --> 08:38:20.900 Dude, how is he still over here with these scouts looking for this relic? 08:38:20.900 --> 08:38:24.900 Oh, he just took the relic. He's trying to sneak that in. Will Grubby be able to get him? 08:38:24.900 --> 08:38:29.460 No, I don't think so. But to be fair, meanwhile Grubby was actually picking up relics on his own. 08:38:29.460 --> 08:38:33.780 He's picked up one. He's going to pick up a second one as well. So Grubby could have got that monk, 08:38:33.780 --> 08:38:38.180 but it's kind of okay. He's more than happy to just take two relics since there's committal on 08:38:38.180 --> 08:38:42.820 both sides by the way behind this grubby's got a nice villager lead so honestly advantage grubby as 08:38:42.820 --> 08:38:47.780 the score suggests pig is still in a decent position but this is looking okay for grubby here 08:38:48.500 --> 08:38:55.220 and i i saw you're amazing yeah the farms look at the farm count yeah so nice 32 farms placed 08:38:57.780 --> 08:39:02.340 to 9 good good eco upgrades as well like look horse collar missing both saw missing 08:39:02.900 --> 08:39:06.340 no real barrel 5 player but i mean grubby's economy upgrades are much better 08:39:06.340 --> 08:39:09.460 And he got those cheaper in so looking okay for him 08:39:10.700 --> 08:39:16.660 Yeah pigs gonna grab two relics which against Burgundians when they're playing into scouts is not the worst thing 08:39:17.020 --> 08:39:19.740 They they get three you get two obviously it's not ideal 08:39:20.460 --> 08:39:23.220 But there could be a situation where you don't even get one 08:39:23.380 --> 08:39:27.300 Yeah, right if you're if your hussite wagons are too slow or their monks are sniping those so 08:39:28.420 --> 08:39:32.500 Overall okay situation for pig better better situation for grubby 08:39:32.500 --> 08:39:36.020 And neither player is that happy out of this opening, like Grubby's probably thinking like 08:39:36.020 --> 08:39:42.060 I got three but wish I got four, Pig's like I got two wish I had three and overall I think 08:39:42.060 --> 08:39:45.100 it's going to be a decent situation for both players now to scale up the late game. 08:39:45.100 --> 08:39:48.220 Arena has this awkward moment now that the relics are gone you're just trying to, you 08:39:48.220 --> 08:39:51.700 have army fighting for nothing because there's stone walls you can't really push onto those 08:39:51.700 --> 08:39:54.940 walls so Pig's just going to chill out here with the Hesite Wagon so you could 08:39:54.940 --> 08:39:58.500 of course use them to control the map, kind of patrol them around Grubby's walls 08:39:58.500 --> 08:40:04.060 In fact, he should do that but it's not a whole lot to play for so both players will focus up on their economy further coming in 08:40:04.060 --> 08:40:10.460 That's in a boost of the villagers movement speed for the Bohemians. Nice little unique tech there showing pigs mastery of the civilization 08:40:10.980 --> 08:40:17.900 Yeah, very smart that alongside wheelbarrow is it is effectively an eco upgrade for your farmers since they move quicker 08:40:19.060 --> 08:40:23.120 Just would like to see him spend that wood right. He's only sitting on 17 on food 08:40:23.120 --> 08:40:27.180 I know that like his endgame composition might not use as much food as Burgundians 08:40:27.180 --> 08:40:30.880 But right now you're gonna lose the race to the Imperial Age by a large margin 08:40:32.320 --> 08:40:38.000 Yeah, I can do that was gonna happen though at least at least you make up for it somewhat by being able to research chemistry in 08:40:38.400 --> 08:40:43.700 Castle age, you know, you're not losing out as on as much time as some other civilizations would 08:40:44.000 --> 08:40:49.600 Yeah, we both just completed for bird part of the Burgundians and I want to see that handkerchief flick right away 08:40:50.280 --> 08:40:53.660 Unfortunately, Grubby missed that timing, but usually we'll go into handkerchief right away for Burgundians 08:40:53.660 --> 08:40:59.660 That's how you want to play them. University here, 3 TTCs only, so Grubby's playing towards a faster imp by the looks of things. 08:40:59.660 --> 08:41:06.260 Look at him maybe punished the Bohemians greed, playing for those like Relic into Boom, kind of like that slower start. 08:41:06.260 --> 08:41:10.060 If you just go for a faster imp on them, you could attack them before they get to the Hoopnitsa. 08:41:11.660 --> 08:41:21.660 The one issue for Grubby is with the Hussetwagons on the field, like usually you'd want to get a forward-ish castle set up against Pink, 08:41:21.660 --> 08:41:25.200 But there's a risk coming forward for that in this situation. 08:41:25.200 --> 08:41:29.980 So he might have to go for a more defensively natured castle. 08:41:30.700 --> 08:41:32.420 Saying that he's only has three on stone. 08:41:32.420 --> 08:41:34.420 Like he's not even made that switch yet. 08:41:34.780 --> 08:41:36.100 He's focused on him first. 08:41:36.100 --> 08:41:39.140 I wouldn't mind that if he just sends like 10 bills to the castle now, 08:41:39.140 --> 08:41:39.860 it's the stone. 08:41:40.260 --> 08:41:42.980 Uh, cause I think you need a castle on arena to get that foothold. 08:41:43.020 --> 08:41:45.060 You don't need it to push, but just having that foothold, 08:41:45.060 --> 08:41:48.580 that little outpost of the castle feels really nice before you start that 08:41:48.580 --> 08:41:50.780 push handcraft coming in to complete the economy upgrade, 08:41:50.780 --> 08:41:55.820 complete the boom for Grubby and with a faster imp he gets first first move on the map basically 08:41:56.380 --> 08:42:01.180 but Bohemians don't mind turtling for a while even fortified wall and turtle is kind of okay for him 08:42:02.380 --> 08:42:05.900 yeah what are the compositions i mean grubby's kind of showing his hand with the archer range 08:42:05.900 --> 08:42:10.300 coming up and the armor coming in that he's gonna be looking for hand cannons i assume 08:42:12.540 --> 08:42:18.780 uh yeah probably he's kind of locked in with these legcaps and now the outposts on the side 08:42:18.780 --> 08:42:22.540 too. Yeah, he loves it. He'll see him moving out. I love the outposts. 08:42:22.540 --> 08:42:26.060 Grubby's such a vision guy because the one thing Grubby hates losing to is like, oh, 08:42:26.060 --> 08:42:30.140 I just didn't see what he was doing. So I lost. So Grubby is like really trying to avoid that situation. 08:42:31.820 --> 08:42:35.900 He thinks he just like, if you can have vision and he loses, he can learn from that game. But 08:42:35.900 --> 08:42:39.500 if he just doesn't have vision, there's no learning happening. It's just like, oh, 08:42:39.500 --> 08:42:43.900 unfortunate. I didn't know what he was doing. So Grubby kind of developed this heavy vision 08:42:43.900 --> 08:42:47.580 style, which I think is really suiting him. He's making good decisions with that extra vision. 08:42:47.580 --> 08:42:51.580 And I want to say as well, I've helped Grubby a lot with his Urmina and his Pergundians. 08:42:51.580 --> 08:42:54.580 And one thing I did tell him is that the timings are really important. 08:42:54.580 --> 08:42:59.580 So if you're getting to in faster, you've got to set up that push and you've got to really go out onto the map. 08:42:59.580 --> 08:43:01.580 If you have the five relics, you can camp. 08:43:01.580 --> 08:43:05.580 In this situation with three relics to two, he can choose to play defensive, but against the Bohemians, 08:43:05.580 --> 08:43:09.580 I'd like to see him push that advantage two minutes and a half faster to impure lage. 08:43:09.580 --> 08:43:11.580 Let's see what he can do with it. 08:43:11.580 --> 08:43:16.580 I think chemistry click needs to happen right away and a few more villagers onto stone. 08:43:16.580 --> 08:43:21.620 stone. He's sending the villagers now. He's definitely late to that castle for this timing, 08:43:21.620 --> 08:43:25.700 but he's still got a good setup on the center of the map, right? All the technologies are coming in. 08:43:25.700 --> 08:43:30.740 Unfortunately, loads up ballistics before chemistry. So that'll take some extra time as 08:43:30.740 --> 08:43:35.700 a pure lage comes in for pig now. And chemistry is going to be in for him. So the timing advantage 08:43:35.700 --> 08:43:40.740 isn't even going to be that significant for Grubby. Dave, Grubby, cats of ballistics 08:43:40.740 --> 08:43:45.380 to prioritize chemistry showing excise that he knows the place, dude. That's high level, 08:43:45.380 --> 08:43:50.220 That's high-level. He's about every 30 seconds down chemistry chemistry for those who don't know allows them to make gunpowder 08:43:50.720 --> 08:43:56.820 Essential to push onto these stone walls. You need Bobber cannons handkinner near it enables two units that grubby really wants for gun 08:43:56.820 --> 08:43:59.140 Nians get gunpowder units that deal extra damage 08:43:59.140 --> 08:44:04.120 So this chemistry crucial and he actually prioritizes it over the ballistics, which is a really good move for himself 08:44:07.500 --> 08:44:12.460 How can that be that really that big of a deal and it's like that takes the sunk cost fallacy there of how much time 08:44:12.460 --> 08:44:19.080 He'd already invested in the blitzx upgrade and the presence of mine knowing that upon hitting amp how much more important chemistry is 08:44:19.300 --> 08:44:22.680 That's a that's a pretty pro can't move right there to cancel that now 08:44:22.680 --> 08:44:27.420 We have the siege workshop coming up in the center of the map just in time to start producing those bombard cannons 08:44:27.580 --> 08:44:32.140 Probably gonna look to pressure one thing. I don't like to see these workshops from pig to yeah 08:44:32.140 --> 08:44:35.780 Like pig is going to see rush from the front, but one thing I don't like about his game right now 08:44:35.780 --> 08:44:37.380 Is that he's making both? 08:44:37.380 --> 08:44:43.340 Halberd Gears and Archeryn is blind so like he obviously could expect Hissar he could expect Paladin from Grubby 08:44:43.340 --> 08:44:47.660 But he actually just doesn't know compared to what Grubby's doing Grubby's got vision everywhere 08:44:47.660 --> 08:44:49.940 He knows exactly what's coming out and he's taking first move 08:44:50.500 --> 08:44:53.540 Like Pig is kind of defaulting to the composition was just okay 08:44:53.540 --> 08:44:58.500 But I can see a world where he invests into Hal whereas Grubby is not making any cab in this situation 08:44:58.500 --> 08:45:04.520 I think he kind of lucked out that Grubby is making cab worth mentioning though if Pig will play this map in the future 08:45:07.380 --> 08:45:14.700 I do want to see more vision from him and I agree on that. I like the outpost forward from pig 08:45:15.360 --> 08:45:18.580 Doesn't quite catch that castle, but it will see the bomber can coming forward 08:45:18.580 --> 08:45:24.320 Yeah, I also will say that if pig stays this defensive and stays in his shell here and 08:45:24.740 --> 08:45:27.740 Is patient enough to mass up the army comp from Bohemians? 08:45:27.740 --> 08:45:32.940 There is a solid chance of him winning. I agree if he's patient enough and he gets that death ball 08:45:32.940 --> 08:45:35.180 I just don't know if he's 08:45:35.180 --> 08:45:41.560 aware of the full capability of the of the Bohemian late game. This setup, by the 08:45:41.560 --> 08:45:44.420 way, that you're seeing Bragunians attacking Bohemians, Bragunians getting 08:45:44.420 --> 08:45:48.320 that nice little timing window. This is not unusual even in pro games. This is 08:45:48.320 --> 08:45:52.100 what typically happens in pro games. Bragunians gets the, you know, first 08:45:52.100 --> 08:45:55.200 move on the map, but Bohemians have the better army composition if they get 08:45:55.200 --> 08:45:58.520 their siege engineers coming in. A tech that Bragunians don't get access to 08:45:58.520 --> 08:46:01.360 that's gonna be plus one range on the bombards and extra damage to the 08:46:01.360 --> 08:46:03.560 buildings. It's a huge technical behemence. 08:46:06.000 --> 08:46:07.880 It's one of the reasons they're so successful in the 08:46:07.880 --> 08:46:10.800 Civ matchup late, right? Yes, that extra range. And then you 08:46:10.800 --> 08:46:14.840 also get who needs on top of that. And fast. It's a triple 08:46:14.840 --> 08:46:17.960 buff. Yes, it's insane. We also give the house I wagons 08:46:17.960 --> 08:46:21.480 extra range. That is true. Yeah, if you want to commit to 08:46:21.480 --> 08:46:24.040 the house I wagons long term, I don't think so. Because I 08:46:24.040 --> 08:46:26.560 think he's already committed to the house. But yeah, 08:46:26.560 --> 08:46:42.320 I always forget that cost stone now, like I still have the old price in my head, you know. 08:46:42.320 --> 08:46:45.520 Kicking off some stone from the potential castle. 08:46:45.520 --> 08:46:50.600 Albin the way is great to answer this hasar into Cavalier, I actually don't like that 08:46:50.600 --> 08:46:52.720 Grubby's even considering Paladin here. 08:46:52.720 --> 08:46:56.440 He doesn't really have all the gold control on the map like he's got some which is nice 08:46:56.440 --> 08:47:00.240 But like pig can easily move out here and snag this one. He also doesn't have all the relics 08:47:00.240 --> 08:47:03.960 I don't like the Paladin choice if you haven't set it up already. So I feel like 08:47:04.360 --> 08:47:06.480 You know don't play into the behemoth halibut 08:47:06.480 --> 08:47:10.140 I think just push with cannons and hand cannon here and really put your foot on the gas is what I want to see from grubby 08:47:11.200 --> 08:47:15.920 It's fair. I'm already from pig and grubby is going up to the the Montessary 08:47:15.920 --> 08:47:24.220 With the rocks in it. I like that there's a way there is a world in which grubby can maybe snipe when he's he's relics of thick 08:47:24.220 --> 08:47:26.060 It's too distracted 08:47:26.060 --> 08:47:28.060 Take three walls and 08:47:28.580 --> 08:47:34.540 He's gonna cast a sorry dude. This is our rate. It's not it. It's not gonna do anything. This is terrible. Oh my god melted 08:47:35.540 --> 08:47:37.540 throwing away pop rent yeah 08:47:38.420 --> 08:47:44.100 Just I don't like the cab is going in this house. You need to meet so it's on the way in who needs it 08:47:44.100 --> 08:47:51.680 It's on the way in but it's from that forward siege workshop Grubby actually might accidentally take that out 08:47:53.620 --> 08:47:55.860 Canon be cannon fights on the gate right now 08:47:56.700 --> 08:48:02.300 Remember these there's one extra range on all siege weapons that will humans have now compared to Burgundians 08:48:02.300 --> 08:48:05.000 But a lot of hand can near the dual extra damage here for the Burgundians 08:48:05.500 --> 08:48:10.060 Hussar have full upgrades now. So Hussar despite missing bloodlines, of course behind 08:48:10.060 --> 08:48:13.740 the uh... the uh... we're going to go get that but still full of great terms of armor 08:48:13.740 --> 08:48:14.740 attack 08:48:14.740 --> 08:48:21.240 decent for setting siege big big engagements now in the front 08:48:21.240 --> 08:48:22.840 pretty interesting paper pig 08:48:22.840 --> 08:48:26.140 the bobber cannons are an attack and they're going out to the castle 08:48:26.140 --> 08:48:29.340 it's going to find the result fight here for big as he's pushing forward pushing 08:48:29.340 --> 08:48:32.540 grubby off the stone grubby though rotating around to the right-hand side 08:48:32.540 --> 08:48:34.340 still doing big work 08:48:34.340 --> 08:48:37.420 with his bombard cannons putting pressure on to this castle things gotta find a 08:48:37.420 --> 08:48:39.580 way to deal with that siege 08:48:39.580 --> 08:48:47.420 I like this from Grubby. You just fight in the front, buy time, trade, trade and whatnot, and in the meantime, he's still in the only castle that Pig has in his base. 08:48:47.420 --> 08:48:51.260 Pig is of course expanding with the castle now, looking to kind of make a storyline of his own. 08:48:51.260 --> 08:48:52.460 Push Grubby back and forth. 08:48:52.460 --> 08:48:55.820 Is Grubby attacking the siege workshop? Does he go after the siege workshop? No. 08:48:55.820 --> 08:48:56.620 It's too random. 08:48:56.620 --> 08:48:58.140 Who thinks there's only 15 seconds away? 08:48:58.140 --> 08:49:01.820 Yeah, it's too random. I don't think you'd think of that. Maybe he will now though? 08:49:01.820 --> 08:49:04.460 No, not quite. It's going after the rangers, unfortunately. 08:49:04.460 --> 08:49:06.300 Who thinks he's in? 08:49:06.300 --> 08:49:07.420 Who thinks he comes in? 08:49:07.420 --> 08:49:12.140 Big shots against the hand cannon is potentially incoming. Yeah, he's not paying 08:49:12.140 --> 08:49:15.060 attention and just for the chat here who needs it is an upgrade on the bomber 08:49:15.060 --> 08:49:18.500 cannon unique to the bohemians one of the reasons why they're so strong in the 08:49:18.500 --> 08:49:21.900 late game it gives them extra splash damage extra damage and extra tankiness 08:49:21.900 --> 08:49:25.420 very very good upgrade take a look at these bomber cannons now who eats it 08:49:25.420 --> 08:49:31.340 from bohemians big shots on the bomber potentially but he loses to nice 08:49:31.340 --> 08:49:39.320 snipes there from grubby oh my goodness that's that plus 10 by the way I'm 08:49:39.320 --> 08:49:42.580 trapped with the villagers and villagers get involved is that plus 10 08:49:42.580 --> 08:49:46.420 from the Burgundians that make them not one shot the who feeds but do a lot of 08:49:46.420 --> 08:49:51.180 damage against them good control from grubby pig equal pop though this is a 08:49:51.180 --> 08:49:54.460 really close game despite the score lead oh bomber tenant sacks from grubby 08:49:54.460 --> 08:49:55.920 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50. 08:49:55.920 --> 08:49:56.760 He gets two! 08:49:56.760 --> 08:49:58.100 Go! 08:49:58.100 --> 08:49:58.940 Will he find a third? 08:49:58.940 --> 08:49:59.820 He gets a third? 08:49:59.820 --> 08:50:01.400 No, go be moved. 08:50:01.400 --> 08:50:02.220 No! 08:50:02.220 --> 08:50:03.000 Dodgeball, dodgeball. 08:50:03.000 --> 08:50:03.900 Dodgeball. 08:50:03.900 --> 08:50:08.120 Go play your saving there final cannon. 08:50:08.120 --> 08:50:11.620 By the way, bomber cannon is very, very expensive, 08:50:11.620 --> 08:50:13.220 most expensive land unit in the game. 08:50:13.220 --> 08:50:15.760 So every cannon that goes down is a really, really big deal. 08:50:18.760 --> 08:50:20.540 I don't think Pig realized how many villages 08:50:20.540 --> 08:50:23.620 he lost there either on the sides and at the front. 08:50:23.620 --> 08:50:33.220 He sounded 109 his population ever 150 repeat of game one right where he kind of sacked a number of villagers to get his expansion up and 08:50:33.660 --> 08:50:35.020 Just never 08:50:35.020 --> 08:50:38.380 Never recognized that fact never replaced him either way 08:50:38.380 --> 08:50:44.460 He's still pushing back up to now for who needs on the front lines here. How it in for grubby. Okay, that's crazy 08:50:44.460 --> 08:50:49.080 That's crazy. I don't like that at all. That's gonna sap all of us gold. That's that some bombards though 08:50:49.080 --> 08:50:53.900 I don't what do the Paladin do differently than the Hussar here. You're not gonna beat the Halves anyways 08:50:53.900 --> 08:50:59.000 I don't like the Paladin at all here. Pig has to kill his trap. He's about to lose a castle to a single trap 08:50:59.000 --> 08:51:05.660 That's undefended. Wow. Yeah, that one villager is doing good work, but she can't hold the line against that one trip 08:51:06.960 --> 08:51:09.340 Well done though. Well done. She gets a round of applause 08:51:09.340 --> 08:51:13.440 Look at grubby's pop right now. 140 08:51:13.440 --> 08:51:18.680 I mean, he's invested so much into Paladin, right? 08:51:18.680 --> 08:51:21.000 Like, the Paladin transition is supposed to be a big play. 08:51:21.000 --> 08:51:22.000 He's trying to set it up. 08:51:22.000 --> 08:51:25.280 It only works if you just set up 40 Paladin, come in one shot. 08:51:25.280 --> 08:51:28.440 But as long as Pig mixes into Halberdere, he's completely fine. 08:51:28.440 --> 08:51:31.560 Pig though is missing upgrades on Halves, like in Game 1. 08:51:31.560 --> 08:51:34.720 So Dasher is saying, it's not just the villagers that we're lacking right now, like in 08:51:34.720 --> 08:51:35.960 Game 1, it's also the upgrades. 08:51:35.960 --> 08:51:37.400 It's a repeat for Game 1. 08:51:37.400 --> 08:51:41.680 Pig needs to get those, you know, just dock the eyes, cross the T's. 08:51:41.680 --> 08:51:43.680 That's what we need from him right now. 08:51:43.680 --> 08:51:45.680 His resources are just way more strapped. 08:51:47.680 --> 08:51:50.680 He lost too many villagers early, but he's still pushing with the Hoopnitsa. 08:51:50.680 --> 08:51:52.680 Grubby looking for big shots, he gets one. 08:51:52.680 --> 08:51:56.680 Big bomber cannon mass, and the Hoopnitsa mass over there. 08:51:56.680 --> 08:51:58.680 Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. 08:51:58.680 --> 08:51:59.680 Come again. 08:51:59.680 --> 08:52:00.680 Oh! 08:52:00.680 --> 08:52:01.680 Oh! 08:52:01.680 --> 08:52:03.680 They're alive! They're alive! 08:52:03.680 --> 08:52:05.680 Paladin's in, we show it with one Paladin. 08:52:05.680 --> 08:52:07.680 Oh my god, we show the transition. 08:52:07.680 --> 08:52:09.680 But the Hussar are looking for the cannons. 08:52:09.680 --> 08:52:13.280 Repairs from Pink though. The presence of mine to repair is fantastic. Nice shot from Grubby though. 08:52:16.140 --> 08:52:19.960 Big Shrine of Micros as well, and Sufnitsa, the Hussars trying to come in. 08:52:19.960 --> 08:52:24.660 I don't think they're gonna be able to clear this. Great defense from Big to save those Sufnitsa. 08:52:24.660 --> 08:52:27.160 Rendable. Incredible saving three of those. 08:52:27.160 --> 08:52:27.820 Armor. 08:52:27.820 --> 08:52:31.500 With the repairs, the Micros on the Helms, and we've got the armor coming in now. 08:52:33.520 --> 08:52:35.420 Bro, bang your series here. 08:52:35.420 --> 08:52:36.720 Pink's got more pop by the way. 08:52:36.720 --> 08:52:41.880 He's also raiding a little bit with Halbedere as the Paladin are coming back to deal with that 08:52:42.600 --> 08:52:46.920 Grubby trying to find solutions to this he thinks it might be Paladin 08:52:46.920 --> 08:52:50.160 But there's so many bohemian helms and bohemian helms have more effects 08:52:50.840 --> 08:52:56.060 Against the Paladin then they would from any other suit. They extra bonus damage. This is brutal 08:52:56.320 --> 08:53:00.560 Snipe on the Hoopney too. Yeah, nice. They're not seeing out those bomber numbers very important 08:53:00.560 --> 08:53:04.400 Oh two villagers taking that brute what force from the cannons 08:53:06.720 --> 08:53:12.400 What is the gold? This is all the gold that Pig has I think right now is this fortile right? 08:53:12.400 --> 08:53:16.000 Looks like it. It had the gold on the bottom that he's got kind of control over. 08:53:16.000 --> 08:53:23.240 Bomber cannon? Dude, this is just dodgeball right now between Grubby and Pig. If someone 08:53:23.240 --> 08:53:25.720 manages to clear the other Bomber cannon mass it's over. 08:53:25.720 --> 08:53:27.720 A lot of cannon. 08:53:27.720 --> 08:53:33.080 We don't have the halbs, we have 15 halbs. It's not enough. The cannon's behind this one. Grubby's looking for it. 08:53:33.080 --> 08:53:37.240 The Paladins dive deep, Devon to raid the economy and like 20 in the front lines 08:53:37.240 --> 08:53:39.720 This is looking really good for him, but Pig is managing it well so far 08:53:40.680 --> 08:53:42.220 Think that could be the killing blow though 08:53:42.220 --> 08:53:44.620 Just those five Paladins that are going to the back of the eco 08:53:44.620 --> 08:53:48.240 They're gonna start to wreak havoc while the the meats are starting to go down 08:53:48.240 --> 08:53:51.040 Some of them might be saved here by the halvediers 08:53:51.040 --> 08:53:55.380 But it's an incredible stop of the momentum that he was starting to build getting out of his base 08:53:55.380 --> 08:53:58.680 No villagers gonna be left on gold after this as well 08:53:58.680 --> 08:54:01.480 Which means he's working essentially with trash units in the relic generation 08:54:01.480 --> 08:54:06.540 generation losing more villages in the back down to 100 for the first time pop dropping below 120 08:54:07.440 --> 08:54:10.920 And the raids and the can play on front great play from grubby 08:54:11.000 --> 08:54:14.000 Yeah, five Paladin going into the back distracts so much 08:54:14.640 --> 08:54:21.120 Opens the door for him to snipe the hoof needs in the front pig is falling apart here grubby's back up to 160 pop and pig 08:54:21.120 --> 08:54:27.120 It's below 100. Yeah, now it's looking like critical numbers critical numbers for pig only 100 pops 08:54:27.120 --> 08:54:30.800 Son of a- he's got to snipe the cannons, he's got to get back this population, but look at this 08:54:30.800 --> 08:54:34.880 10 on food and 15 food on the bank, he's got no economy 08:54:34.880 --> 08:54:38.020 it's complete poverty for Pig, he can't even remaster if he wanted to 08:54:38.020 --> 08:54:40.320 Grubby still 160 pot tons of res in the bank 08:54:40.320 --> 08:54:43.020 there's a bunch of food for gold as well, the fuel of Paladin 08:54:43.020 --> 08:54:46.520 he's got 3,000 stone, come forward with some Kausers Grubby 08:54:49.620 --> 08:54:52.320 And Pig will recover, we've seen him take damage before 08:54:52.320 --> 08:54:55.920 we've seen him be fine, well fine in quotation marks, you know? 08:54:55.920 --> 08:55:02.640 Yeah, this is fine. This is an outrageous amount of damage for the res bank that grubby has and the amount of units that he can 08:55:02.640 --> 08:55:09.260 Send forward pretty soon grubby's back up to 140 bills now. It's a good reboot. Yeah, really good reboot 08:55:09.260 --> 08:55:11.920 I'm done tons of stone in the bank. I really want to see some castles drop 08:55:11.920 --> 08:55:15.480 You can just make them map control if you don't want to like commit to that forward 08:55:16.080 --> 08:55:19.680 You know push position we saw death note in an earlier set 08:55:19.680 --> 08:55:23.680 He had like six castles control in the center that was really cool something like that for grubby can be awesome 08:55:23.680 --> 08:55:29.720 Architecture to really boost the buildings here. Grubby has played this one very very nicely and honestly the Paladin 08:55:29.720 --> 08:55:34.740 I criticized a bit, but it kind of kind of paid off, which is cool to see it's momentum play, right? 08:55:34.740 --> 08:55:36.740 Yeah, and he took advantage of it for sure 08:55:37.800 --> 08:55:43.840 It's a terrible spot right now. Yeah, oh two cannons. You can't afford that. You cannot afford that 08:55:43.840 --> 08:55:48.720 We don't have the gold. This is the only gold that he can take the cannons from Grubby are pushing in 08:55:48.720 --> 08:55:51.120 We got hand cannons behind me as well. It's only trash for pigs 08:55:51.120 --> 08:55:53.840 He's completely out of Golden Stone and the GG is called. 08:55:53.840 --> 08:55:55.520 Oh my God, we have ourselves a game five. 08:55:55.520 --> 08:55:57.480 Grubby equalizes, that's fantastic. 08:55:57.480 --> 08:55:58.320 Holy. 08:56:00.040 --> 08:56:00.880 Great play out of Grubby. 08:56:00.880 --> 08:56:01.920 Two game fives in a row, man. 08:56:01.920 --> 08:56:03.480 What a set this is. 08:56:03.480 --> 08:56:06.480 So close on every single game it feels like. 08:56:07.560 --> 08:56:11.320 Dude, like Grubby coming in the favorite for the set. 08:56:11.320 --> 08:56:14.000 Pig taking the lead after that first game 08:56:14.000 --> 08:56:14.840 that was quite close. 08:56:14.840 --> 08:56:17.600 He wins two back-to-back Grubby equalizes on Urbina 08:56:17.600 --> 08:56:20.520 in a meta matchup amongst pro games. 08:56:20.520 --> 08:56:22.660 We'd love to see Burgundians and Bohemians play at this level. 08:56:22.660 --> 08:56:24.320 This really felt like a pro game. 08:56:24.320 --> 08:56:26.760 Some decisions could have been a bit better. 08:56:26.760 --> 08:56:28.360 Maybe we're still missing some upgrades from Pig, 08:56:28.360 --> 08:56:31.360 but overall, Wolf player has played a fantastic game four. 08:56:31.360 --> 08:56:34.200 Grubby takes the win and we have a Cinema Game Five 08:56:34.200 --> 08:56:35.040 coming up here. 08:56:35.040 --> 08:56:36.400 It's going to be Pig's home map. 08:56:36.400 --> 08:56:38.920 He's got Arabia or Arena that he can take us back to. 08:56:38.920 --> 08:56:41.320 We've seen one and one. 08:56:41.320 --> 08:56:43.800 We've seen two Arabias and one Arena. 08:56:43.800 --> 08:56:46.200 Let's see what Pig decides for his home map now. 08:56:46.200 --> 08:56:52.160 I think it's a great composure for Grubby there. 08:56:52.160 --> 08:57:01.280 He just never felt like he was really questioned in that game, right? 08:57:01.280 --> 08:57:04.280 How many sieves do they have in the chamber? 08:57:04.280 --> 08:57:06.440 That's a good question. 08:57:06.440 --> 08:57:08.040 How many comfort picks do they really have? 08:57:08.040 --> 08:57:09.200 Because it's the best of five now. 08:57:09.200 --> 08:57:10.200 We're on the game five. 08:57:10.200 --> 08:57:16.720 We've already seen Grubby's two comfort picks on Arabia in the way and the Ethiopians. 08:57:16.720 --> 08:57:22.580 I don't know as much about Pig's preferences for civs. 08:57:22.580 --> 08:57:24.320 I only knew the Vietnamese, by the way. 08:57:24.320 --> 08:57:25.320 I know the Vietnamese. 08:57:25.320 --> 08:57:26.320 I've seen that time and time again. 08:57:26.320 --> 08:57:28.480 I don't know what a second civ is. 08:57:28.480 --> 08:57:32.200 Any viewers in the chat can give us an insight as to what pick and play we've seen the 08:57:32.200 --> 08:57:36.000 way and the Ethiopians for Grubby in terms of Arabian civilizations. 08:57:36.000 --> 08:57:39.800 He's got the Hindustani up his sleeve on both Arabia and Arena. 08:57:39.800 --> 08:57:42.020 Chinese says Ballistica. 08:57:42.020 --> 08:57:43.020 Yeah, Chinese. 08:57:43.020 --> 08:57:44.520 I did hear him talk about that. 08:57:44.520 --> 08:57:45.640 Very meta-sive as well. 08:57:45.640 --> 08:57:50.160 So I think, Pig, one thing I talked to him about is that he's playing Bohemian, Chinese, 08:57:50.160 --> 08:57:51.240 Arabia, Arena. 08:57:51.240 --> 08:57:53.240 Those civs are like top tier meta. 08:57:53.240 --> 08:57:55.760 And he was like one of the only players playing those civs and that's one of his 08:57:55.760 --> 08:57:58.440 big advantages going into this tournament. 08:57:58.440 --> 08:58:03.160 He's got some of the best civilizations available to him, which is great. 08:58:03.160 --> 08:58:05.640 I'm surprised to hear Chinese though. 08:58:05.640 --> 08:58:11.700 Just because they're so unique and therefore so different to play than any other sieve. 08:58:11.700 --> 08:58:13.280 In terms of their timings, right? 08:58:13.280 --> 08:58:19.720 In terms of, like, how you make transitions, because it's starting more veiled. 08:58:19.720 --> 08:58:24.160 That's just surprising to me that in such a short period of time, at this skill level, 08:58:24.160 --> 08:58:25.160 you'd even try. 08:58:25.160 --> 08:58:27.920 Like, China needs to be like the last sieve, even knowing how strong they are that I 08:58:27.920 --> 08:58:29.640 would try to whip into shape. 08:58:29.640 --> 08:58:32.360 Well, that was one thing that, actually, Pig talked to me about. 08:58:32.360 --> 08:58:36.360 He said, like, listen, how strong or how hard is the Chinese star? 08:58:36.360 --> 08:58:37.960 Because he told me, he noticed the best save. 08:58:37.960 --> 08:58:39.960 He expected everybody to jump on it. 08:58:39.960 --> 08:58:41.880 So he was going to initially avoid it. 08:58:41.880 --> 08:58:43.680 Then he saw nobody's playing the Chinese. 08:58:43.680 --> 08:58:45.680 He asked me, like, how hard is the start? 08:58:45.680 --> 08:58:48.000 And I was like, bro, it's not that hard. 08:58:48.000 --> 08:58:49.960 But you can't first time a save. 08:58:49.960 --> 08:58:51.120 So you have to invest time into it. 08:58:51.120 --> 08:58:52.120 It used to be a lot harder. 08:58:52.120 --> 08:58:53.680 Yeah, they made it easier. 08:58:53.680 --> 08:58:55.600 But the main thing is to just invest time to the save. 08:58:55.600 --> 08:58:57.000 Don't just first time it for the tournament. 08:58:57.000 --> 08:58:59.880 And he's certainly done that by the looks of it. 08:58:59.880 --> 08:59:02.520 I think the harder thing with Chinese is just transitions, right? 08:59:02.520 --> 08:59:04.560 Because you don't have that one big power comp. 08:59:04.760 --> 08:59:08.320 You kind of have to make a combination of two, three, four different things, 08:59:08.320 --> 08:59:09.600 especially once you get late game. 08:59:11.080 --> 08:59:13.560 It can be very difficult to master. 08:59:14.120 --> 08:59:15.880 Uh, it's going to be Arabia. 08:59:15.920 --> 08:59:19.560 We have the confirmation for pig, get some energy in the chat for a game five. 08:59:19.600 --> 08:59:20.480 Arabia. 08:59:21.120 --> 08:59:22.120 I absolutely love this. 08:59:22.120 --> 08:59:23.520 This is a fantastic game file. 08:59:23.520 --> 08:59:24.920 Let me just show the bracket here. 08:59:25.360 --> 08:59:28.120 Uh, show you guys what exactly the players are playing for. 08:59:28.120 --> 08:59:29.520 This is not the last set of the day. 08:59:29.520 --> 08:59:32.360 although if it was, it'd be a banger, but it's actually not. 08:59:32.360 --> 08:59:34.520 We see Grubby vs Pig game 5 right now. 08:59:34.520 --> 08:59:37.400 Captain Lance waiting for the winner. That's going to be played tomorrow. 08:59:37.400 --> 08:59:40.200 But whoever loses between Grubby and Pig has to play today. 08:59:40.200 --> 08:59:42.720 Next up, we have Youth Thermal Wagamama. 08:59:42.720 --> 08:59:47.760 And then finally, to end up the night, we're going to have Knoth vs whoever loses this game. 08:59:47.760 --> 08:59:52.560 Which is, you know, a lot at stake because Knoth, very solid player in his own right, 08:59:52.560 --> 08:59:54.400 can definitely look for the upset there. 08:59:54.400 --> 08:59:58.400 Lobby is up, and we're waiting for them to get started with this game 5. 08:59:59.520 --> 09:00:09.840 Shut up to Happy Leaves for making these go on the spec dashboard home page, eh? 09:00:09.840 --> 09:00:13.320 Oh, it makes it so much easier for us. 09:00:13.320 --> 09:00:14.320 Fantastic. 09:00:14.320 --> 09:00:15.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 09:00:15.320 --> 09:00:16.320 You know, Dave, before that I wasn't using it. 09:00:16.320 --> 09:00:19.960 I was like, give me the code, somebody give me the code, and then Roxy, I don't know 09:00:19.960 --> 09:00:20.960 how she knew. 09:00:20.960 --> 09:00:23.960 She was like, you can just go to the dashboard, click over here, check the tournament tab, 09:00:23.960 --> 09:00:25.840 and I was like, oh, it's fantastic, you know? 09:00:25.840 --> 09:00:26.840 Yeah. 09:00:26.840 --> 09:00:27.840 It's great. 09:00:27.840 --> 09:00:28.840 Makes it really easy. 09:00:28.840 --> 09:00:37.440 15 hours from coming, the nine hour days so far, look up a set, sorry, go ahead, Dash, 09:00:37.440 --> 09:00:41.160 please. No, I was going to say just on that front though of like community made stuff credit 09:00:41.160 --> 09:00:45.160 to you and your team for the Kings Gauntlet website and like the latter, like all the 09:00:45.160 --> 09:00:51.720 info you guys had. I mean, that whole website was spectacular. I'm constantly amazed and 09:00:51.720 --> 09:00:56.360 impressed by the community built tools in Age of Empires. It's I mean, we're 09:00:56.360 --> 09:01:01.920 using CapsRage, right? Like, you know, it's just the way that the scene has developed, both 09:01:01.920 --> 09:01:06.480 from the player, you know, side from the tournament organization side and then from like the community 09:01:06.480 --> 09:01:09.520 built tools. It's just such a special community. 09:01:09.520 --> 09:01:13.040 Yeah, it really is. Honestly, I'd like to take credit for that, but it's all due to 09:01:13.040 --> 09:01:16.160 the one guy, Debreje. He's in the chat right now. If you guys want to throw him some 09:01:16.160 --> 09:01:19.120 love, he made the entire website. Let me show on screen. It's not really useful 09:01:19.120 --> 09:01:22.200 right now, but for the latter race, this was like what I was checking every day 09:01:22.200 --> 09:01:27.620 And it's just yeah, it's your point that just a fantastic website to track all the progress and shout out to BGMN 09:01:27.620 --> 09:01:31.640 He killed it and he made this event even more special with such a well-built website 09:01:32.800 --> 09:01:37.980 And that was where's the liquid Peter guys as well just kind of keeping the everything updated. It's all been so professional. I feel 09:01:45.120 --> 09:01:48.960 Waiting for that game five merch giveaway when we did hit the sub goal for the merch giveaway 09:01:48.960 --> 09:01:52.940 We'll do that probably tomorrow because tomorrow is going to be the grand final day 09:01:53.420 --> 09:01:55.420 we'll do the merch giveaway then and 09:01:55.820 --> 09:01:59.500 If we hit the sub goal of 9,000, which I think we're really close to be honest 09:01:59.740 --> 09:02:03.860 We'll make sure that we have a second edition of the Kings garland set for next year 09:02:03.860 --> 09:02:08.620 I think we already hit the goal of let me see if that's true. Did we hit the goal of 8,000? 09:02:08.620 --> 09:02:13.100 Yeah, we did so it's a subathon confirmed if you're found in my content expect the subathon this year in 09:02:13.260 --> 09:02:18.940 2026 that's confirmed. Thank you all for the sudden support subathon confirmed for 2026 more info on that 09:02:18.940 --> 09:02:22.780 soon probably in September as I take a little bit of a break and have some 09:02:22.780 --> 09:02:25.260 tournaments coming up. I would expect that later. 09:02:25.260 --> 09:02:29.660 Chinese. Ooh. He did go for the Chinese, Hera. 09:02:30.380 --> 09:02:34.060 I love it. I love it. Is it in? Is the game started? 09:02:35.100 --> 09:02:38.140 Yes. Can't stop in here. Look for it. 09:02:38.140 --> 09:02:41.900 Chinese, Vietnamese. So grubby on another comfort pig, 09:02:42.540 --> 09:02:45.980 on a pig that a lot of people have avoided. He actually, he muscle 09:02:45.980 --> 09:02:48.980 He also memorized his way into a house, but he canceled it in time. 09:02:48.980 --> 09:02:53.980 I'm not getting the link here from the dashboard, so I'm going to have to find it. 09:02:53.980 --> 09:02:55.980 What is the streamers tab? 09:02:55.980 --> 09:02:57.980 And you can see. 09:02:57.980 --> 09:02:58.980 Beautiful. 09:02:58.980 --> 09:02:59.980 Oh, that's fantastic. 09:02:59.980 --> 09:03:00.980 Oh, that's what it meant for the main page. 09:03:00.980 --> 09:03:01.980 That's great. 09:03:01.980 --> 09:03:06.980 Yeah, fantastic. 09:03:06.980 --> 09:03:07.980 All right, going in here. 09:03:07.980 --> 09:03:09.980 Grubby versus Pig, game five. 09:03:09.980 --> 09:03:11.980 It's the Chinese, like you were saying, Dave. 09:03:11.980 --> 09:03:12.980 Like the chat was saying. 09:03:12.980 --> 09:03:16.340 Also, shout out to the chat for knowing about the Chinese, but welcome to number one. Game five, 09:03:16.940 --> 09:03:22.860 Pegg with the Chinese, one of the best sieves, considered the best sieve amongst pros on Arabia, has a bit of a tricky start though. 09:03:22.860 --> 09:03:27.900 Let's see if Pegg's mastery of the sieve can overcome that tricky start and get it into some of those really nice 09:03:28.060 --> 09:03:34.180 Chinese savings up two bills from the start, if done correctly. Grubby with the Vietnamese though, something that he lost to earlier. Is that correct? 09:03:34.740 --> 09:03:38.540 Yeah, he did lose to the Vietnamese early, and Scurms, of course, took out his Ethiopians. 09:03:38.540 --> 09:03:41.860 He's rocking the Vietnamese himself, talking through the sieve matchup, Mr. Dash. 09:03:42.980 --> 09:03:48.700 I mean, Siv matchup, I would personally, again, I think taking elo into account, I'm going 09:03:48.700 --> 09:03:51.200 to favor the Vietnamese again. 09:03:51.200 --> 09:03:54.900 I know that in the face of the Chinese, which have like infinite options, and that's kind 09:03:54.900 --> 09:04:01.460 of the, their real, or like advantages of Siv, right, is that they can play most anything. 09:04:01.460 --> 09:04:03.960 They've got solid upgrades, cheap upgrades. 09:04:03.960 --> 09:04:06.700 So they have most everything available to them. 09:04:06.700 --> 09:04:12.160 I think my concern is that, as you mentioned, you kind of want to play like a very 09:04:12.160 --> 09:04:16.920 hybridized unit composition which could be hard to get into to find all the 09:04:16.920 --> 09:04:19.840 techs and that's something we've actually seen Pig struggle with in other games 09:04:19.840 --> 09:04:25.560 right is managing to pick up all the techs whereas Vietnamese I feel like you 09:04:25.560 --> 09:04:28.880 know kind of exactly what you need to play into yeah and grubby will 09:04:28.880 --> 09:04:32.440 ultimately feel very comfortable with this game extending into the late 09:04:32.440 --> 09:04:37.480 game and doing what pig did to him and absolutely by the way 25 seconds out 09:04:37.480 --> 09:04:41.240 of DC time on the Chinese that's actually very very good normally get 09:04:41.240 --> 09:04:45.760 a little bit more than that. So that's a solid start for Pig. He's still up a 09:04:45.760 --> 09:04:49.640 couple villagers and once Grubby gets loom, of course Chinese already have loom 09:04:49.640 --> 09:04:53.440 right now, so once Grubby gets loom, it's an extra kind of villager up for Pig. 09:04:53.440 --> 09:04:55.920 That's how you want to think about this Chinese start. They have some other 09:04:55.920 --> 09:04:59.040 bonuses but that's the most relevant one right now. Like we said about that 09:04:59.040 --> 09:05:02.040 dash though, the Vietnamese have been a clear game plan and also with the 09:05:02.040 --> 09:05:05.520 addition of fire lenses recently, Vietnamese fire lenses are tankier and 09:05:05.520 --> 09:05:08.440 they're very very good against what Chinese can go for usually like some 09:05:08.440 --> 09:05:10.080 Some kind of calf skirm matchup. 09:05:10.080 --> 09:05:11.760 The financer can shut that down. 09:05:11.760 --> 09:05:13.200 The enemies have better skirm. 09:05:13.200 --> 09:05:15.320 That deer is kind of trolling though. 09:05:15.320 --> 09:05:16.960 Dude, I've been watching it, Maddie. 09:05:16.960 --> 09:05:19.520 This is the second time around for the steer. 09:05:19.520 --> 09:05:21.800 Ha ha ha, crummy. 09:05:21.800 --> 09:05:22.640 There we go. 09:05:22.640 --> 09:05:23.600 He pushed it off. 09:05:24.600 --> 09:05:25.440 Nice. 09:05:25.440 --> 09:05:26.280 How about these maps though? 09:05:26.280 --> 09:05:27.600 The hills on the blight. 09:05:28.720 --> 09:05:29.880 They're in craters, yeah. 09:05:29.880 --> 09:05:31.720 Yeah, they're both in craters. 09:05:31.720 --> 09:05:34.320 At least even in that regard, but it's pretty wild. 09:05:35.240 --> 09:05:36.880 Yeah, hills near the golds as well 09:05:36.880 --> 09:05:37.960 can be kind of nasty. 09:05:37.960 --> 09:05:40.680 Of course, hill bonus and age of empire is very, very relevant. 09:05:40.680 --> 09:05:44.680 You deal more damage when you're standing uphill and you deal, or you take less damage when 09:05:44.680 --> 09:05:45.680 you're standing uphill as well. 09:05:45.680 --> 09:05:47.280 So you deal more and take less. 09:05:47.280 --> 09:05:49.520 It's a fantastic position to find yourself in. 09:05:49.520 --> 09:05:50.520 Loom coming in for Grubby. 09:05:50.520 --> 09:05:54.720 A pretty fast uptime here, 18 population, a little faster than the standard. 09:05:54.720 --> 09:05:59.240 Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, pig, whoa, pig. 09:05:59.240 --> 09:06:00.240 Your name is pig. 09:06:00.240 --> 09:06:01.600 You're missing a pig, bro. 09:06:01.600 --> 09:06:03.600 Oh, he hasn't gotten it. 09:06:03.600 --> 09:06:05.600 Who are at the back? 09:06:08.080 --> 09:06:13.400 With a Chinese start to he's gonna be wondering man, where's my food did I not take that? 09:06:13.400 --> 09:06:15.080 He's kind of be lining towards the dog 09:06:15.080 --> 09:06:18.800 He knows it's there somehow or like he knows that he's got a look for it. So figured it out 09:06:18.800 --> 09:06:21.560 You should jump on that. That was what it had to be. I mean 09:06:23.680 --> 09:06:30.720 You're you're losing out on a lot of your timing here with the Chinese Vietnamese player grubby is already up 09:06:30.720 --> 09:06:34.460 18 population yeah up here from grubby. Oh, hey 09:06:34.860 --> 09:06:39.340 Just now clicks up to feudal age. Yeah, at least gets the click, but yeah 09:06:39.340 --> 09:06:41.140 This is kind of rough for the food eco 09:06:41.140 --> 09:06:46.380 Yeah, all the sheep going down as well and now the pig is coming in and we don't have many villagers left to take it 09:06:46.380 --> 09:06:50.840 So that's a bit awkward there. She's gonna make the application a little bit more. He doesn't have a loom 09:06:52.180 --> 09:06:59.100 Ah, oh no, we got it. We got it. We got it. We got it. Nice recovery. Yeah, I got the landing pig. Let's go, baby 09:06:59.100 --> 09:07:02.660 Maybe just been across as there and just like, Oh, is he gonna get it? 09:07:02.660 --> 09:07:04.340 But he does kind of lined it in the end. 09:07:04.340 --> 09:07:06.140 A good double lumber camp set up for Chinese. 09:07:06.140 --> 09:07:07.140 I actually like that start. 09:07:08.260 --> 09:07:12.260 Yeah, the problem with having a pig, that late sorry to ask, is that 09:07:12.460 --> 09:07:14.900 sometimes you get thrown off your build a little bit. True. 09:07:15.060 --> 09:07:17.740 It looks like he's actually remembered to go to the barracks. 09:07:17.740 --> 09:07:20.180 But a lot of times when you when you forget a resource like that, 09:07:20.180 --> 09:07:22.740 you're bringing it in, you're trying to get it perfect. 09:07:22.740 --> 09:07:25.780 You'll find yourself in fuel age with no house, no barracks, no nothing. 09:07:25.780 --> 09:07:26.740 Right. Yeah. 09:07:26.740 --> 09:07:33.160 I like this nice recovery here from pig stable up for grubby on the opposite side 09:07:34.060 --> 09:07:36.180 So he's looking to get some skies out onto the field 09:07:36.980 --> 09:07:41.700 Apply a little pressure. Maybe do some damage trades a little bit of against the villagers on the wood line 09:07:41.700 --> 09:07:46.160 I like that grubby every time he's done that pig has kind of fumbled something not nothing major 09:07:46.160 --> 09:07:52.340 But yep, it's kind of distracted pig and at this level a little bit of distraction can really throw you up your game 09:07:52.340 --> 09:07:56.980 and can start the snowball in for grubby Chinese up a little later due to that missing pig 09:07:56.980 --> 09:08:02.700 But also due to the Chinese slower start. He's up the two villagers though. I think the rain she opens range 09:08:02.700 --> 09:08:08.860 But no gold. That's very strange. I saw he saw the stable from grubby. Then he places the range 09:08:11.460 --> 09:08:18.640 I think I think he's just kind of thrown off by the the weirdness of the start. He's he's managed it very well 09:08:18.640 --> 09:08:24.360 But the timings for him have been a little bit strange. Okay, just put two spears in the queue though 09:08:24.360 --> 09:08:26.040 So that's that's good 09:08:26.040 --> 09:08:29.080 And you can get at least the back of his base walled off pretty easily 09:08:29.080 --> 09:08:34.520 Right just one house on kind of either side of the wood lines and the majority of his base is protected 09:08:34.520 --> 09:08:39.360 Just has to then worry about kind of those two awful hills in front of his gold and his TC 09:08:39.360 --> 09:08:45.200 I love the setting is out just in time. This is really good that spears coming out scout coming back to defend 09:08:45.200 --> 09:08:49.240 And sometimes when you are playing up against a scout rush and you don't have your scout 09:08:49.240 --> 09:08:51.600 to defend, you get overwhelmed and your first spear dies. 09:08:51.600 --> 09:08:55.440 But having the scout there makes that impossible situation for your opponent to just target 09:08:55.440 --> 09:08:56.440 the spear. 09:08:56.440 --> 09:08:57.680 The scout's going to be there tanking and whatnot. 09:08:57.680 --> 09:09:00.680 So, picks into defend, he's going to play archers and he's going to wall towards that 09:09:00.680 --> 09:09:01.680 TC. 09:09:01.680 --> 09:09:04.240 I actually like to set up a lot more than I thought I would for Pig. 09:09:04.240 --> 09:09:07.520 The two spears really help in the defense and now Trevi, while he's getting the 09:09:07.520 --> 09:09:10.120 forms up the scout rush shouldn't do a whole lot. 09:09:10.120 --> 09:09:12.800 I mean like the fact that he just 09:09:13.240 --> 09:09:17.680 Bit the bullet and wall towards the TC the short balls are really I was about to say the same big Dave 09:09:17.680 --> 09:09:19.720 I love that we're in the same place there 09:09:19.720 --> 09:09:25.280 I was like, you know what the lack of greed here and deciding just a wall straight to the TC and straight to the gold 09:09:25.280 --> 09:09:30.840 I think it's so smart to down her hit on the spear the scouts are taking some punishment there 09:09:31.640 --> 09:09:34.120 Grubby decided to run through probably just 09:09:34.120 --> 09:09:40.120 Scouts are going to get damage, don't welcome the walls there, and the second spear is there, and Grubby needs to micro like a beast now to avoid the spearman. 09:09:40.120 --> 09:09:44.120 Pig, good map setup, still open in the back though, I'd like to see a house there. 09:09:44.120 --> 09:09:46.120 Did you have the scouting on it? 09:09:47.120 --> 09:09:53.120 He's being very patient with his walls, like he takes this opportunity to wall, and we saw it in that other Arabia game too. 09:09:53.120 --> 09:09:56.120 He re-walls, right, even re-walled in that arena game. 09:09:56.120 --> 09:09:57.120 Yeah, sure. 09:09:57.120 --> 09:09:59.120 Very nice walling here from Pig on all of these so far. 09:09:59.120 --> 09:10:02.120 Another good hit with the spear, tracking the scouts well. 09:10:02.120 --> 09:10:08.440 And now that he knows where all those scouts are and where the pressure is coming, now he 09:10:08.440 --> 09:10:11.520 goes for the more aggressive walls up onto the hill. 09:10:11.520 --> 09:10:15.280 Yeah, that's actually where this archer is from, Grubby. 09:10:15.280 --> 09:10:18.920 Yeah, range follow-up, okay, this is making a lot of sense. 09:10:18.920 --> 09:10:21.800 You could go archers here, but I think more commonly it's the skirmishers. 09:10:21.800 --> 09:10:23.320 I think skirmishers is the right call. 09:10:23.320 --> 09:10:25.320 Grubby makes it happen here. 09:10:25.320 --> 09:10:26.320 Skirmishers for the Vietnamese, of course. 09:10:26.320 --> 09:10:28.600 We talked extensively about them earlier. 09:10:28.600 --> 09:10:29.600 Very strong option. 09:10:29.600 --> 09:10:35.480 the house wall here shall fall off and pig which by the way sounds like a small thing but in this term and seeing how many holes 09:10:35.480 --> 09:10:39.080 We've had how many late walls. This is actually a great milestone to have 09:10:39.080 --> 09:10:43.760 It's just gonna set him up nicely for this game five. No disasters will happen. Should he keep the walls down? I 09:10:44.600 --> 09:10:48.860 Love to see him extend the one while he has an opportunity extend the one around the gold 09:10:48.860 --> 09:10:51.980 Yeah, they can't be ranged from the outside, right, but that's like 09:10:52.600 --> 09:10:54.160 That's an 09:10:54.160 --> 09:10:58.160 Experience play yeah getting hit on your gold so many times if you walled to it 09:10:58.160 --> 09:11:01.560 So I don't know if he if he realizes that could be a potential issue 09:11:02.080 --> 09:11:06.760 Grubby will realize that like this game is transitioning into a pretty stable feudal age 09:11:06.760 --> 09:11:07.920 We'll just wall up himself 09:11:07.920 --> 09:11:12.560 I like that adaptation from him gets wheelbarrow comes in a bit quicker for the Vietnamese doesn't cost him any wood 09:11:12.840 --> 09:11:14.120 Great pick up there for him 09:11:14.120 --> 09:11:18.800 I'd like to see him finish the walls completely and just play with the skirmishers play a nice standard game from here 09:11:18.960 --> 09:11:22.440 Give himself the most chances to win three spheres a few archers coming across the map 09:11:22.440 --> 09:11:26.080 This is insane versus scouts. Not the best against skirmishers. 09:11:26.080 --> 09:11:28.680 Skirmishers will counter both of these units very nicely. 09:11:29.760 --> 09:11:32.660 Nice shot from Grubby as well to just use that weak scout. 09:11:33.100 --> 09:11:35.360 Bring it to the side of the map. Same with the other one. 09:11:35.440 --> 09:11:37.280 Yeah. Get a lot of good exploration. 09:11:37.280 --> 09:11:41.000 And you're also boosting your score, which kind of plays into your opponent's head a little bit. 09:11:41.000 --> 09:11:47.480 If you constantly have the better score, I think it's a subtle thing, but it can be very effective. 09:11:47.480 --> 09:11:51.480 Machines are the guy that might be the most experienced. 09:11:51.480 --> 09:11:54.480 Just seeing that score can be scary. 09:11:54.480 --> 09:11:57.480 Just passing moment though, because the scrims are now forward. 09:11:57.480 --> 09:12:02.480 As Fletching came in for both players, three archers, three spears. 09:12:02.480 --> 09:12:05.480 He's going to alert Grubby though, to the presence of the archers. 09:12:05.480 --> 09:12:07.480 There's a hole with that attack in the middle of the map. 09:12:07.480 --> 09:12:11.480 Oh my God, this is really bad for Grubby. His scrims are out of position. 09:12:11.480 --> 09:12:13.480 I don't think he's even seen the archers by the way. 09:12:13.480 --> 09:12:17.920 in his base you need to come back here a tower defensively for pig and he's gonna 09:12:17.920 --> 09:12:22.640 go straight into this hole this is really bad for grubby for no reason he's in a 09:12:22.640 --> 09:12:29.920 quick ball here so far it's okay though good tower really good nice preemptive 09:12:29.920 --> 09:12:34.520 tower from pig yes very very impressed like I said with the walls and the 09:12:34.520 --> 09:12:38.240 tower there a lot of the players that I've watched on their ladder grind 09:12:38.240 --> 09:12:41.260 Especially they seem to think if they couldn't get like a 09:12:42.440 --> 09:12:48.600 70 tile great wall of China down then they shouldn't try and wall it all yeah, and they should play open and almost 09:12:48.600 --> 09:12:55.180 None of them went for towers some really really impressed here from from pig. This is a great instinct play from him 09:12:55.180 --> 09:12:58.720 Yeah, but by the way, I was completely panicking to this completely. He lost a villager 09:12:58.720 --> 09:13:04.400 He's now setting way too many way too many votes to go with his abandonist farms. This has been very packed for a little bit 09:13:04.400 --> 09:13:07.280 There's a whole thing out there. Oh my god 09:13:08.240 --> 09:13:10.240 Two foes around. 09:13:10.240 --> 09:13:12.240 You can't engage. 09:13:12.240 --> 09:13:14.240 Oh, just barely. 09:13:14.240 --> 09:13:16.240 Where are our grabby skirmishers? 09:13:16.240 --> 09:13:18.240 He doesn't know there's a hole there either. 09:13:18.240 --> 09:13:20.240 It's fine. 09:13:20.240 --> 09:13:22.240 It's fine. This is fine. 09:13:22.240 --> 09:13:24.240 Oh wow. 09:13:24.240 --> 09:13:26.240 Loses both scouts. 09:13:26.240 --> 09:13:28.240 Oh pig, this is so smart. 09:13:28.240 --> 09:13:30.240 He sees the skirmishers. He's just going to dive. 09:13:30.240 --> 09:13:32.240 He'll lose them, but this is a lot of damage actually. 09:13:32.240 --> 09:13:34.240 It's really smart for pig. 09:13:34.240 --> 09:13:36.240 It's a lot of idle time there. 09:13:36.240 --> 09:13:39.000 And the resources are looking solid for Pig as well. 09:13:39.000 --> 09:13:40.080 He's adding the market. 09:13:40.080 --> 09:13:41.800 He's thinking about going up to the Castle Age. 09:13:41.800 --> 09:13:44.880 Now the question is, what does he go for in Castle Age? 09:13:44.880 --> 09:13:45.720 Right? 09:13:45.720 --> 09:13:46.560 He could go Fire Lancers of his own. 09:13:46.560 --> 09:13:47.520 He could go Cab Arches. 09:13:47.520 --> 09:13:48.480 He could go Crossbow. 09:13:48.480 --> 09:13:49.440 He could go Knight. 09:13:49.440 --> 09:13:51.320 There's so many options with Chinese. 09:13:51.320 --> 09:13:54.000 That's where the confusing part comes with this Siv. 09:13:54.000 --> 09:13:55.280 It's just, what do you pick? 09:13:56.320 --> 09:13:58.080 Final cleared up. 09:13:58.080 --> 09:14:00.360 Well, let's think about the possible outcomes 09:14:00.360 --> 09:14:02.000 against skirmishers. 09:14:02.000 --> 09:14:03.480 Probably we don't wanna play archers, 09:14:03.480 --> 09:14:05.120 although you can in some compositions. 09:14:05.120 --> 09:14:06.080 He's still committing to it. 09:14:06.080 --> 09:14:10.360 You can play Archer plus Rocket Cards like a Crossbow Siege play. It's not bad in the 09:14:10.360 --> 09:14:13.980 Skirmish, it's fine. You can switch into some Fire Lancers, although it's a less popular 09:14:13.980 --> 09:14:18.680 choice against only Skirmish. Looks like he's more than happy to play in the Crossbows though, 09:14:18.680 --> 09:14:19.680 Dave. 09:14:19.680 --> 09:14:25.120 Yeah, second range coming up. If he does play in the Crossbows, like you said, he's 09:14:25.120 --> 09:14:29.680 gonna need a solution to the Skirmish. He doesn't have to stable up yet. Maybe 09:14:29.680 --> 09:14:32.960 a Siege workshop, he's walling now in front of the gold a little bit, but that's 09:14:32.960 --> 09:14:35.360 just to let more villagers have access. 09:14:35.360 --> 09:14:38.620 And also if you're playing cross buzz you kind of want to find that 09:14:39.440 --> 09:14:45.680 Castle age timing maybe you know send them across the map show up at the grubby's gold or something when he's not expecting it 09:14:45.680 --> 09:14:49.360 I think it was outside his walls. He wasn't forward. He wasn't forward and 09:14:50.360 --> 09:14:55.440 I don't think Grubby seen him the biggest so sneaky he loves the fourth seed. He loves that so much 09:14:55.440 --> 09:14:57.440 But Grubby has a scouts. Oh 09:14:58.520 --> 09:15:01.880 This is gonna be the biggest find ever for this scouts nice job from wow 09:15:01.880 --> 09:15:06.960 Really really nice job from guppy big greedy from pink though. You don't need the forward siege 09:15:06.960 --> 09:15:11.080 You've killed a bunch of villagers. You've got Chinese you fully walled. This is a fantastic situation 09:15:11.080 --> 09:15:15.800 She's played from home got a little greedy to go for that fourth siege and gets punished. Who's the villager for free? 09:15:15.800 --> 09:15:19.520 It's fine though, dude. It's fine because they always find the first one 09:15:19.520 --> 09:15:24.000 They never expect the second one unless of course their scout runs right into the second one 09:15:24.240 --> 09:15:26.240 But he doesn't like that. Yeah, they never 09:15:26.240 --> 09:15:31.840 They never expect the second one dude. Always send two. The first one is a sacrifice 09:15:32.600 --> 09:15:37.760 Dude pig just ends it. He goes right past Grubby's vision and he's got a sneaky forward villager 09:15:37.760 --> 09:15:40.040 This could be a forward seed workshop. This could be a magina push 09:15:40.120 --> 09:15:46.800 This is gonna be a huge play for pig and Grubby's got no idea and even by the way that villager was outside pigs walls 09:15:46.920 --> 09:15:50.960 Grubby might not think that's a forward seed. He might just think oh, you know pigs made a mistake 09:15:50.960 --> 09:15:55.520 Let me just get that bill dude pigs leaving with the archers too. This is so good. So good 09:15:55.520 --> 09:15:57.320 This is so good for him. 09:15:57.320 --> 09:15:58.160 Oh, Grubby's booming. 09:15:58.160 --> 09:16:00.200 Grubby's got no idea. 09:16:00.200 --> 09:16:01.840 He doesn't know. 09:16:01.840 --> 09:16:04.400 He's going for a forward TC as well. 09:16:04.400 --> 09:16:06.560 Oh, no, this could be bad. 09:16:06.560 --> 09:16:07.520 Yeah, with Elite Skirm. 09:16:07.520 --> 09:16:09.920 I mean, Elite Skirm, great. 09:16:09.920 --> 09:16:11.640 You saw Archer, Mass. 09:16:11.640 --> 09:16:12.800 You're thinking Crossbows, 09:16:12.800 --> 09:16:14.080 but you didn't see the Ville 09:16:14.080 --> 09:16:15.720 and you're not aware of the siege. 09:16:15.720 --> 09:16:18.480 And that's gonna make your skirmishers near obsolete. 09:16:18.480 --> 09:16:19.320 Yeah. 09:16:19.320 --> 09:16:20.720 There's also Fire Lancers. 09:16:20.720 --> 09:16:21.560 Fire Lancers. 09:16:21.560 --> 09:16:24.000 I think you might be overcooking here, 09:16:24.000 --> 09:16:26.000 But maybe he just wants to prepare as much armor as he can. 09:16:26.000 --> 09:16:27.440 Look where the archers are going, dude. 09:16:27.440 --> 09:16:28.260 Look over there, no. 09:16:28.260 --> 09:16:29.040 Oh, no, oh, no, no. 09:16:29.040 --> 09:16:29.540 This is very bad. 09:16:29.540 --> 09:16:31.920 Wait over there, that T-Sit and then, then, then, then. 09:16:31.920 --> 09:16:32.880 He's going, he's going, he's going. 09:16:32.880 --> 09:16:33.380 Yes. 09:16:33.380 --> 09:16:33.880 Yes, he is. 09:16:33.880 --> 09:16:34.380 He'll see it. 09:16:34.380 --> 09:16:34.880 He'll see it. 09:16:34.880 --> 09:16:35.380 He'll see it. 09:16:35.380 --> 09:16:36.380 He'll see it. 09:16:36.380 --> 09:16:37.360 Oh, my goodness. 09:16:37.360 --> 09:16:38.360 Disaster. 09:16:38.360 --> 09:16:39.920 Great reaction from Grubby, though. 09:16:39.920 --> 09:16:41.880 Potentially saved this game by reacting to this. 09:16:41.880 --> 09:16:43.320 He's going to back off that town center, 09:16:43.320 --> 09:16:46.440 loses a villager on the wall, rushes to siege workshop. 09:16:46.440 --> 09:16:48.800 OK, at least he didn't lose all four villagers. 09:16:48.800 --> 09:16:49.440 So it's decent. 09:16:49.440 --> 09:16:51.560 But Pig, not wasting time looking for them, 09:16:51.560 --> 09:16:53.520 would just look to break the wall and go in 09:16:53.520 --> 09:16:55.700 manual defense for grubby here 09:16:55.700 --> 09:16:58.760 and the four cities of rocket carts being messed up for pig this is looking 09:16:58.760 --> 09:17:01.880 really good for the chinese player right now bill count is even both there's on 09:17:01.880 --> 09:17:04.160 one base after the second sounds and from grubby 09:17:04.160 --> 09:17:07.560 has been going on the crossbows 09:17:07.560 --> 09:17:10.560 crossbows into the base but now he sees that sees workshop you got to be very 09:17:10.560 --> 09:17:14.120 very careful about this is an ego play from pig this is the one hundred 09:17:14.120 --> 09:17:18.760 percent ego play and now he's just checked on me and he's sleeping again 09:17:18.760 --> 09:17:21.240 he's disciplined day think back to that game like that 09:17:21.240 --> 09:17:24.860 Woo game he didn't dive into early. He's kind of disciplined. He won't risk it 09:17:28.240 --> 09:17:32.360 Many players went in there by the way, that was that was a close call for pig for sure 09:17:32.360 --> 09:17:35.740 Oh, the skirt the skirm's got some good reinforcement picks behind this 09:17:40.760 --> 09:17:45.680 And that's a nice shot walking culture more expensive than manganos by the way one for one trades are good for grubby 09:17:45.680 --> 09:17:50.860 Once a zero place or extra good splits from grubby though very skill matchup right now 09:17:51.240 --> 09:17:56.520 with these mangos and rockers on the field 09:17:56.520 --> 09:17:58.720 starting at the center of the area we're cooked 09:17:58.720 --> 09:18:02.960 he talked about here uh... that that's uh... university came up for pig 09:18:02.960 --> 09:18:06.320 like as soon as he hit castle age yeah not actually researched anything right 09:18:06.320 --> 09:18:09.660 like you can feel like you did kind of go for a bit too much at once 09:18:09.660 --> 09:18:13.080 yeah hasn't been able to actually grab all the text now a lot of scary coming 09:18:13.080 --> 09:18:14.000 up on the front 09:18:14.000 --> 09:18:17.320 probably deleted that i'm not a tc entirely though yeah and now it's 09:18:17.320 --> 09:18:20.760 tower being forced up so a lot of reactions here that's actually decent 09:18:20.760 --> 09:18:25.820 He's got a secure stone. I actually don't mind that. Oh my god, Grubby's playing with fire log against these rocket carts for steed 09:18:25.820 --> 09:18:32.660 Micro from Grubby though. He's making some defensive magnals. Dude, both players are playing phenomenally here. This is a treat to watch 09:18:34.900 --> 09:18:39.420 Second TC for pig he bought the stone for it. He's gonna start expanding his eco 09:18:39.420 --> 09:18:42.720 He's still got a really good army for it. He's floating it a lot of res 09:18:42.720 --> 09:18:48.420 He can actually afford a lot more and afford ballistics almost he can get some more fire Lancers on the field 09:18:48.420 --> 09:18:53.980 It's got the second armor upgrade like this is really dangerous for grubby and the fire lines have done so well 09:18:53.980 --> 09:18:57.260 By the way picked up on a mangana earlier at the second mangana dead to the fire lines 09:18:57.260 --> 09:19:02.020 So those guys have certainly paid off hand for an early for grubby brubby's micro like a freaking champ out here 09:19:02.460 --> 09:19:05.820 Dodging all of these walking mangana shots, but he lost another mangana 09:19:06.300 --> 09:19:11.000 Yeah, lost manganas, but the skirmishers are making quick work of all this crossbows on the left-hand side 09:19:11.000 --> 09:19:13.920 Both players getting pushed to their absolute limits, but what a game five 09:19:13.920 --> 09:19:19.880 Which means he's the micro in two spots against rocket carts dude. He's got a micro in two spots against rocket carts 09:19:19.880 --> 09:19:23.120 He's doing exceptionally well an elephant comes out. That's huge 09:19:26.200 --> 09:19:30.700 What is it? There's a monk there or is it? Oh, there's a monk. There's a monk. Oh, no 09:19:32.320 --> 09:19:37.480 Does pigs see it if it kills you guys? It's worth it. It's gotta be a delete 09:19:37.480 --> 09:19:38.320 It's up 09:19:38.320 --> 09:19:42.000 He had a bit more time. He had a bit more time get a kid at once more, but it's fine 09:19:42.000 --> 09:19:47.660 It's okay second elephant. That's a waste wood line in the back rocket card is there look at the wood line 09:19:47.820 --> 09:19:51.020 There's not there's no the wood left there grubby pulls away in time 09:19:51.900 --> 09:19:56.120 Reaction from grubby you could rush it with the bills if you want to the elephant will get converted right away 09:19:56.120 --> 09:19:58.140 It's got to go back one walk out at the back 09:19:58.140 --> 09:20:01.340 Kind of a kind of cheeky walking car another manganal dead on the front 09:20:01.340 --> 09:20:04.240 This is terrible for grubby the manganal biker has not been there 09:20:04.600 --> 09:20:08.340 Positioning was completely off and pig 2 DC behind it pigs in a great position now 09:20:08.340 --> 09:20:14.420 They eco behind for Ruby is a mess as well this rocket card is just walking right into this phase 09:20:14.420 --> 09:20:19.660 The Magnos trying to counter it. Ruby needs to delete the wall and run to the other side, but the fire Lancers might be there 09:20:19.660 --> 09:20:21.340 He doesn't know 09:20:21.340 --> 09:20:29.680 Yeah, Magnos here though. Oh wow pig moves the rocket car. You can't attack them. Oh my god. No way he trades this 09:20:31.340 --> 09:20:37.260 Wow close elephants on it though that would have been such an epic play. Yep to trade that off 09:20:38.340 --> 09:20:40.340 Grubby is so flustered though. 09:20:40.340 --> 09:20:41.340 But now 3 rocketcarts on the front. 09:20:41.340 --> 09:20:42.340 Incredible pressure. 09:20:42.340 --> 09:20:43.340 Production buildings have gone down. 09:20:43.340 --> 09:20:44.340 Stable ambarics. 09:20:44.340 --> 09:20:46.340 Now he's moving on. 09:20:46.340 --> 09:20:47.340 Start focusing. 09:20:47.340 --> 09:20:48.340 That siege workshop. 09:20:48.340 --> 09:20:49.340 He's going to take control of this hill as well. 09:20:49.340 --> 09:20:51.340 Just making the position worse for Grubby. 09:20:51.340 --> 09:20:53.340 Big Manganale trade here though. 09:20:53.340 --> 09:20:54.340 Good reaction from Pig. 09:20:54.340 --> 09:20:56.340 No great reaction from Pig. 09:20:56.340 --> 09:20:57.340 Dodges. 09:20:57.340 --> 09:20:58.340 Good play from Grubby. 09:20:58.340 --> 09:20:59.340 Gets the 1 for 0. 09:20:59.340 --> 09:21:00.340 Kills the Scribbershers. 09:21:00.340 --> 09:21:01.340 Grubby's still in this one. 09:21:01.340 --> 09:21:02.340 He's on one base though. 09:21:02.340 --> 09:21:04.340 He's mining some stone. 09:21:04.340 --> 09:21:05.340 Looking to maybe get a castle one day. 09:21:05.340 --> 09:21:06.340 Maybe some more town thinners. 09:21:06.340 --> 09:21:10.980 more town centers but yo storm mining tells me grubby's playing towards the castle he could actually 09:21:10.980 --> 09:21:15.380 just all in this one straight back across the map of the forward castle trying to reclaim the game 09:21:15.380 --> 09:21:20.100 because right now it's kind of slipping from grubby's hands and pig is kind of going away with a 09:21:20.100 --> 09:21:26.100 little bit of an advantage. Yeah grubby dropping a tc at the top of his base so thinking about 09:21:26.100 --> 09:21:30.820 adding a little bit of economy behind all of this about to get housed but now starts building a few 09:21:31.620 --> 09:21:35.620 he's got to be careful with this push he could lose a lot of military trying to push up this 09:21:35.620 --> 09:21:37.620 this hill with these four 09:21:37.620 --> 09:21:39.620 manganos also the elephants. 09:21:39.620 --> 09:21:41.620 I mean they've just been conversion 09:21:41.620 --> 09:21:43.620 targets ready set to delete all of 09:21:43.620 --> 09:21:45.620 them here comes pick with the 09:21:45.620 --> 09:21:47.620 fire Lancers. All of these 09:21:47.620 --> 09:21:49.620 manganos are probably going to die. 09:21:49.620 --> 09:21:51.620 We need a backline. I hate the 09:21:51.620 --> 09:21:53.620 only manganal. Oh my goodness. 09:21:53.620 --> 09:21:55.620 All the manganals have went down 09:21:55.620 --> 09:21:57.620 for grubby. If you had a chance 09:21:57.620 --> 09:21:59.620 you needed those manganals alive 09:21:59.620 --> 09:22:01.620 the bill the hero bill for grubby 09:22:01.620 --> 09:22:03.620 get his ass. Wow. 09:22:03.620 --> 09:22:08.620 Grubby deletes the house and makes more immediately. 09:22:08.620 --> 09:22:12.620 Second talent center for Grubby is looking to play a standard game, maybe 09:22:12.620 --> 09:22:14.620 Mastering some Fire Lancers himself actually. 09:22:14.620 --> 09:22:17.620 The enemy's Fire Lancers are tankier, so they are better in the head-to-head 09:22:17.620 --> 09:22:21.620 fight against the Chinese who move faster. 09:22:21.620 --> 09:22:24.620 The eco balance behind this for Pig is so good. 09:22:24.620 --> 09:22:27.620 It's so good. Look at his resources right now. 09:22:27.620 --> 09:22:29.620 He's building up towards the castle as well. 09:22:29.620 --> 09:22:31.620 Yeah, that's true. 09:22:31.620 --> 09:22:38.320 He's building up towards Imperial Age. He's not just a castle. Castle in the middle of the map, maybe even a bit forward near this monastery in Imperial Age. 09:22:38.320 --> 09:22:44.620 These are all things from Pig that can actually just end the game immediately. Grubby's economy is a hot mess right now. He needs something on the map. 09:22:44.620 --> 09:22:53.620 Grubby will lose if he just sits back and tries to get back into this game economically. You need to attack, but look at this. Pig is all over him, not letting him even move out of the map with a manganole. 09:22:53.620 --> 09:23:00.620 Pig needs to invest into not attack grounding and just right-clicking with these rocket carts. He could have got so much more damage. 09:23:00.620 --> 09:23:06.180 He keeps trying to absolutely game it right me. Yeah keeps attack grounding the whiffing every single shot 09:23:06.180 --> 09:23:11.000 It's crazy. It's good sometimes and sometimes you gotta trust your way back the bowl castle place 09:23:11.000 --> 09:23:13.700 That is an ambitious castle. Yeah, I 09:23:14.420 --> 09:23:17.700 Almost don't like it as well because even if you get it, it's downhill, right? 09:23:22.580 --> 09:23:28.020 Could kill the foundation if all those villagers leave that's one dead. Bill a bunch of weak ones 09:23:30.620 --> 09:23:36.540 damage could end up denying this oh he targeted the foundation they're not the 09:23:36.540 --> 09:23:41.380 Vils that's a panic castle if I've ever seen one man yeah he needed something at 09:23:41.380 --> 09:23:48.740 the front but he never had that yeah so many villagers coming but another rocket 09:23:48.740 --> 09:23:52.060 curve from the right side it's Gigi if big get this castle up and denies 09:23:52.060 --> 09:23:55.140 Grubbs castles Gigi Grubbs got 15 villagers building at one month to 09:23:55.140 --> 09:23:58.460 defend but the rocket card is there Grubby is completely panicked pig is 09:23:58.460 --> 09:24:08.460 It's putting on a masterclass, it's got an imp behind this as well, it's all pig, ladies and gentlemen, that forward castle has no, you know, no army to deny it here from Grubby, this is fantastic play from pig. 09:24:09.460 --> 09:24:15.460 Yeah Grubby's gonna buy himself some more time if he completes this though. Pig is rolling right now. 09:24:15.460 --> 09:24:22.460 Yep. Yeah I feel it's huge, I feel it's massive. Castle goes up for Grubby though, left of the ground, still kind of in the game with that one. 09:24:22.460 --> 09:24:24.460 Maybe now he's gotta deny Pig's castle. 09:24:24.460 --> 09:24:25.460 Ooh Pig. 09:24:25.460 --> 09:24:26.460 Wait, wait. 09:24:26.460 --> 09:24:32.300 He's actually from building this oh my god that wall from grubby is griefing and he can't build from the corner 09:24:32.340 --> 09:24:37.940 Which is I think you can make wrapped in archers and you can still play this game wrapped in archer Magnos 09:24:37.940 --> 09:24:41.100 Not a bad combo. He's got to keep thinking about the nine minutes up 09:24:41.820 --> 09:24:43.820 You can't let this go up grubby 09:24:44.180 --> 09:24:48.940 85% on the castle now. He's bringing military for we got fire lances in a month coming forward to support the siege 09:24:49.140 --> 09:24:53.560 Yeah, thank you got to finish this brother. You got to finish this man. He's got a cry 09:24:53.560 --> 09:25:05.560 No, it's not going up. I don't think it's going up right now. 93% 95. 09:25:05.560 --> 09:25:13.560 We got battle just coming forward on the foundation, 95% 96, 97, 98, 99, it's going up. It's up. 09:25:13.560 --> 09:25:19.560 Oh my god, it's up and the gear lady is here. Pig is doing it. This is absolutely fantastic for him right now. 09:25:19.560 --> 09:25:24.040 right now gets the castle up. Grubby couldn't quite deny it. He whiffed on the Magano shot 09:25:24.040 --> 09:25:28.200 and Pig is in such a good position. Murderhole's coming in now just to close out any doubts. 09:25:28.200 --> 09:25:31.880 He's in a great position now with more siege. Forward Castle, Trevor Shea's will come out 09:25:31.880 --> 09:25:36.200 in Imperial Age. Guys who's 20 seconds away from a potential GG. Pig is doing the upset 09:25:36.200 --> 09:25:38.120 of the tournament right now. It's just fantastic play from him. 09:25:40.360 --> 09:25:46.440 Stellar play. Stellar play. He's impressed. The whole series, I think. 09:25:46.440 --> 09:25:51.720 I'm not surprised Grubby is still alive at this point. 09:25:51.720 --> 09:25:58.200 It's been a lot of panic but it's also been decent eco management behind all things considered. 09:25:58.200 --> 09:26:01.360 He's constantly getting units coming out, he got that castle up somehow. 09:26:01.360 --> 09:26:03.240 He's trying to push back this castle. 09:26:03.240 --> 09:26:04.240 He's resilient, man. 09:26:04.240 --> 09:26:05.240 He is resilient. 09:26:05.240 --> 09:26:06.760 He's going two rams. 09:26:06.760 --> 09:26:08.760 He made a patard as well. 09:26:08.760 --> 09:26:10.960 Yeah, I see that guy in the back. 09:26:10.960 --> 09:26:12.440 I don't know too much though. 09:26:12.440 --> 09:26:13.440 Pig is so smart. 09:26:13.440 --> 09:26:14.440 He just brings in the repairs. 09:26:14.440 --> 09:26:15.440 He's got that rocket car. 09:26:15.440 --> 09:26:18.680 the loose condition which is like lose the castle and fumble it but he's gonna 09:26:18.680 --> 09:26:21.960 hang on to that castle repair he's got murder holes as well he's reading with 09:26:21.960 --> 09:26:24.880 some fire lenses prioritizing the impurely arm which is fantastic and if 09:26:24.880 --> 09:26:28.400 the trebs on the way after conscription there's an interesting choice and probably 09:26:28.400 --> 09:26:33.920 a good one overall yeah the fire lance is so annoying on the right side and 09:26:33.920 --> 09:26:37.680 they're about to be they're about to be elite as well yeah so he can send those 09:26:37.680 --> 09:26:42.160 in to raid he's also got three relics from the center the rocky carts are 09:26:42.160 --> 09:26:44.520 going down but they're not the most important thing anymore right the 09:26:44.520 --> 09:26:52.500 trebs and the main massive fire Lancers are important for pig right now yeah and 09:26:52.500 --> 09:26:56.460 the fact that he owns this hill fire lancer elite upgrade though that's massive 09:26:56.460 --> 09:26:59.960 like that that's a unit that you can't even fight an imp half the time you 09:26:59.960 --> 09:27:04.380 certainly cannot fight that off in castle age dude how is he sniping a 09:27:04.380 --> 09:27:07.500 relic from grubby Ziko 09:27:07.500 --> 09:27:11.580 Yeah, that's incredible. 09:27:11.580 --> 09:27:14.060 Look at this guy, oh another castle. 09:27:14.060 --> 09:27:15.900 And a forward castle. 09:27:15.900 --> 09:27:16.740 Wow, dude. 09:27:16.740 --> 09:27:19.620 Mind the stone, just buy it, just buy it and put it down, man. 09:27:19.620 --> 09:27:20.120 Yeah. 09:27:20.120 --> 09:27:24.820 Oh man, this is absolute surround from him 09:27:24.820 --> 09:27:26.060 by the eco of Grubby. 09:27:26.060 --> 09:27:28.300 And by the way, Grubby is trying to hang on. 09:27:28.300 --> 09:27:29.300 You got to respect the effort. 09:27:29.300 --> 09:27:30.660 He's going for some towers to defend, 09:27:30.660 --> 09:27:33.940 but this castle is monumental, forward castle on a hill. 09:27:33.940 --> 09:27:36.140 That's the second hill he's taken away from Grubby. 09:27:36.140 --> 09:27:38.140 And Grubby, if you can't deny that he's dead. 09:27:38.140 --> 09:27:42.140 There's only seven villagers and he's building it in range of that tower. 09:27:42.140 --> 09:27:46.140 Grubby, aware of it, if he gets his tower up quick enough, he's going to go for a countercastle. 09:27:46.140 --> 09:27:48.140 Tries the stone. 09:27:48.140 --> 09:27:50.140 Grubby's got the villagers down. 09:27:50.140 --> 09:27:52.140 Round two, folks. It's round two. 09:27:52.140 --> 09:27:54.140 Violence is coming in though for Pig. 09:27:54.140 --> 09:27:58.140 It's not just villagers for him. The tower's going to help him for Grubby. 09:27:58.140 --> 09:28:01.140 He's denying the castle, but look at the eco from Grubby. 09:28:01.140 --> 09:28:05.140 The castle's going to go down there and there's Fire Lancers in his base right now. 09:28:05.140 --> 09:28:07.140 Yeah, it's so nasty. 09:28:08.020 --> 09:28:10.580 Castle number one for Grubby goes down. 09:28:10.580 --> 09:28:12.740 Ounciner, it's right there. It's got no defense. 09:28:12.740 --> 09:28:14.660 The Trebuchets are killing absolutely everything here. 09:28:14.660 --> 09:28:15.940 The tower's going to go down as well. 09:28:15.940 --> 09:28:18.580 The hill making the Trebuchets kill everything faster. 09:28:18.580 --> 09:28:20.180 Listen, Grubby does deny this castle, 09:28:20.180 --> 09:28:22.500 which is actually a huge defensive play, by the way. 09:28:22.500 --> 09:28:24.100 They would get really excited about this, 09:28:24.100 --> 09:28:26.420 if not for the fact that Pig has won it already. 09:28:26.420 --> 09:28:29.620 Pig, upset of the tournament, has knocked out the favorite. 09:28:29.620 --> 09:28:31.780 Down to the loser bracket, three to two. 09:28:31.780 --> 09:28:33.860 What a series from Pig. Give it up for him in the chat. 09:28:33.860 --> 09:28:35.180 GG, well played. 09:28:37.820 --> 09:28:40.340 Just seriously, that's the showing out of pig today. 09:28:40.340 --> 09:28:43.540 That would that would three very or more than three. 09:28:43.540 --> 09:28:44.820 I guess five is best of five. 09:28:44.820 --> 09:28:46.540 Very, very entertaining games. 09:28:46.540 --> 09:28:48.580 Super fun. Very, very competitive. 09:28:48.580 --> 09:28:51.260 It's clear that they're extremely close in level. 09:28:52.060 --> 09:28:55.100 Grubby a little bit more of a meta player, but pig just seems to have 09:28:55.100 --> 09:28:57.460 that nice balance between defense and aggression. 09:28:57.620 --> 09:29:02.580 And he knows when to turn that switch and like just start attacking grubby 09:29:02.580 --> 09:29:05.460 because Grubby clearly folds at some points, right? 09:29:05.460 --> 09:29:07.020 He just kind of crumbles. 09:29:07.020 --> 09:29:09.260 The chat saying I looked depressed and whatnot. 09:29:09.260 --> 09:29:12.540 Guys, listen, Grubby's in the loser's bracket. 09:29:12.540 --> 09:29:14.820 I still got a chance for my boy to do it. 09:29:14.820 --> 09:29:17.300 But right now, I'm actually just really happy for Pig. 09:29:17.300 --> 09:29:19.420 All jokes aside, I'm not going to cry. 09:29:19.420 --> 09:29:21.460 Pig played a fantastic set. 09:29:21.460 --> 09:29:23.220 He really earned this upset. 09:29:23.220 --> 09:29:24.300 It wasn't lucky. 09:29:24.300 --> 09:29:27.220 It was actually just playing better Age of Empires 2. 09:29:27.220 --> 09:29:29.660 And he showed deep knowledge of some really powerful 09:29:29.660 --> 09:29:30.460 civilizations. 09:29:30.460 --> 09:29:32.260 So, you know, kudos to him. 09:29:32.260 --> 09:29:34.460 Such a nice guy, such a chill guy. 09:29:34.460 --> 09:29:37.780 Showing some very, very nice potential here in this tournament. 09:29:37.780 --> 09:29:39.820 He moves on to the winner bracket finals here. 09:29:39.820 --> 09:29:41.060 Let's take a look at the bracket. 09:29:41.060 --> 09:29:42.980 Let's get Dave and Dash depending on this bracket 09:29:42.980 --> 09:29:45.260 before we move on to the next set. 09:29:45.260 --> 09:29:48.340 Katnallans will now be facing Pig 09:29:48.340 --> 09:29:51.340 in that winner bracket, or upper bracket final. 09:29:51.340 --> 09:29:53.260 Grubby drops down, he's gonna be facing Knoth. 09:29:53.260 --> 09:29:54.940 And we have Uthermo versus Wagon X. 09:29:54.940 --> 09:29:56.540 Dave and Dash, what do you guys make 09:29:56.540 --> 09:29:58.180 with the Katnallans versus Pig matchup 09:29:58.180 --> 09:29:59.900 tomorrow for the upper bracket final. 09:30:01.260 --> 09:30:03.620 The one that nobody, the matchup nobody expected, 09:30:03.620 --> 09:30:04.900 I think in the upper bracket final. 09:30:04.900 --> 09:30:06.340 No one expected, yep. 09:30:09.340 --> 09:30:12.140 These two players, I just think it's gonna be wildly exciting. 09:30:12.140 --> 09:30:14.100 I'm just trying to imagine the games 09:30:14.100 --> 09:30:15.460 because of the types of players 09:30:15.460 --> 09:30:17.900 that each Captain Lance and Pig are. 09:30:17.900 --> 09:30:19.300 And I think it's gonna look very different 09:30:19.300 --> 09:30:20.780 than this series as an example, right? 09:30:20.780 --> 09:30:23.140 Like I think Captain Lance is gonna be a bit more willing 09:30:23.140 --> 09:30:24.900 to get down and dirty with Pig, 09:30:24.900 --> 09:30:26.660 getting to some of the messiness 09:30:26.660 --> 09:30:31.100 the chaos of the game. And so those could just be wildly swingy games. 09:30:32.300 --> 09:30:38.340 I I'm of the same opinion like I like meta high level, you know, perfect age of 09:30:38.340 --> 09:30:43.300 empires to and that's kind of what you thermal and grubbier are trying to 09:30:43.300 --> 09:30:46.740 emulate with their game plan, right? They're they're going meta picks. 09:30:46.740 --> 09:30:52.740 They're really studying the game. Lanson pig, more vibes based builds. 09:30:52.900 --> 09:30:55.780 And that's that's the type of energy that I want to see in an upper 09:30:55.780 --> 09:31:01.620 bracket finals. So that's really exciting to me. I will say that on that note, though, we get five 09:31:01.620 --> 09:31:06.180 games again. Like Pig is playing a little bit more meta than Lance. Like Lance is really out there 09:31:06.180 --> 09:31:10.260 with this build. He's like doing anything but playing the standard. Pig is playing some good 09:31:10.260 --> 09:31:15.140 civs. He has his unique approaches to them. But overall, I feel like he's trying to play 09:31:15.140 --> 09:31:18.180 what would give him the highest chance of success with like little risks. He's quite 09:31:18.180 --> 09:31:22.820 disciplined in that regard. It's gonna be a very nice matchup. Let's get your thoughts 09:31:22.820 --> 09:31:26.980 real quick on a Knopf versus Grubby of course Knopf the heavy underdog that's it that's that will 09:31:26.980 --> 09:31:30.980 be later tonight but Grubby maybe some nerves there since it's going to be a loser bracket game. 09:31:31.940 --> 09:31:36.820 I think if you're Knopf you take a lesson from what you just saw right in terms of how to kind 09:31:36.820 --> 09:31:42.900 of unsettle Grubby which is to to be willing to to bring pressure his way and I think take 09:31:42.900 --> 09:31:47.140 it take a page out of Pig's playbook which is that even when Grubby comes forward with 09:31:47.140 --> 09:31:54.660 kind of his more patented archer, you know, meta pressure early on, the of counter attacking. 09:31:54.660 --> 09:31:59.220 I think that's one thing that pig did very well, that again, lower you low, middle place can struggle 09:31:59.220 --> 09:32:03.700 with is the idea of like, well, I took damage. So now all my focus is going to be on like rebuilding 09:32:03.700 --> 09:32:08.340 my base and protecting my base as opposed to using some of that time, whatever military 09:32:08.340 --> 09:32:12.580 resources you have to go forward and deal some counter attacking damage. Yeah, 100%. 09:32:12.580 --> 09:32:18.060 100%. Listen, guys, Dave and Dash, thank you so much for joining for the cast. Honestly, 09:32:18.060 --> 09:32:22.660 this is a fantastic trio. I think we didn't talk about each other much, and it was a fantastic, 09:32:22.660 --> 09:32:25.820 fantastic cast, at least from my end. So thank you so much for joining me. I hope the chat 09:32:25.820 --> 09:32:29.220 did enjoy it, and hopefully we'll see more of you guys tomorrow as well for another 09:32:29.220 --> 09:32:31.460 series. Maybe another triple cast. We'll see you. 09:32:31.460 --> 09:32:35.460 Yeah, cheers, man. Thanks for the invite. This has been an incredible tournament. 09:32:35.460 --> 09:32:38.740 Thanks for having us, dude. It's a dream come true. 09:32:38.740 --> 09:32:45.740 and Dave. HDD. HDD, love it. Absolutely love it. All right. Well, 09:32:45.740 --> 09:32:49.340 good luck with the rest of the day, Hera. And good luck to the 09:32:49.340 --> 09:32:51.980 players who still have some series ahead of them. I'll be 09:32:51.980 --> 09:32:54.820 watching. Thank you, bro. Take care, guys. Take care, Dave. 09:32:54.820 --> 09:32:59.620 Here you go, guys. Bro, give it up in the chat for Dash and 09:32:59.620 --> 09:33:03.700 Dave. Go to, go to, you know, people, go to casters. Dave, 09:33:03.700 --> 09:33:05.620 of course, he does a lot of Agent One Parts II content. 09:33:05.620 --> 09:33:08.340 If you'd like to follow him, check out his stream Dave Aoi 09:33:08.340 --> 09:33:12.380 We on twitch you guys and follow him check him out dash of course does stream as well 09:33:12.380 --> 09:33:18.780 So be sure to follow these castes as well that are coming on and let's include more of these people into our like events 09:33:18.780 --> 09:33:23.940 Hopefully they'll include me into their events and it gets a nice synergy where everyone's just watching everyone love to see it 09:33:23.980 --> 09:33:28.480 HDD we might bring them back from another set tomorrow also doing to give a quick shout out here 09:33:29.060 --> 09:33:35.180 Anonymous hundred dollar donation. He says W termic and I got a round of W's for the hundred dollar donation from anonymous 09:33:35.180 --> 09:33:37.700 This tournament has been so good. 09:33:37.700 --> 09:33:41.140 It's literally been my best idea ever, honestly. 09:33:41.140 --> 09:33:43.300 And it wasn't even entirely my idea. 09:33:43.300 --> 09:33:45.380 It's an idea that was inspired by many, many things. 09:33:45.380 --> 09:33:46.740 So I don't even want to take credit here. 09:33:46.740 --> 09:33:48.980 I'm just really happy with how it's turning out. 09:33:48.980 --> 09:33:50.900 It's exceeded all kinds of expectations. 09:33:50.900 --> 09:33:52.460 We still have two sets for the day. 09:33:52.460 --> 09:33:54.740 Knopf, Grubby, Wagyu, Thermal. 09:33:54.740 --> 09:33:56.900 Thank you to all of us for the 10 gifted, 09:33:56.900 --> 09:33:58.900 dark humility for the five gifted. 09:33:58.900 --> 09:34:00.500 And we have also, I didn't shout them out, 09:34:00.500 --> 09:34:03.620 but I did see the gifted earlier from Mr. 09:34:03.620 --> 09:34:06.620 I don't see the name here, unfortunately it's slipped. 09:34:06.620 --> 09:34:08.260 But thank you all for all the gifted. 09:34:08.260 --> 09:34:10.020 Really appreciate having you guys here. 09:34:10.020 --> 09:34:11.700 Grubby, drop into the loser's bracket, 09:34:11.700 --> 09:34:13.500 but he's not out, he got two more sets to go. 09:34:13.500 --> 09:34:16.420 I love the Hera thinking about Grubby Sadge, 09:34:16.420 --> 09:34:18.780 or Hera thinking about Grubby Pepe Hans. 09:34:18.780 --> 09:34:20.700 I think that's so funny by the way. 09:34:20.700 --> 09:34:21.900 I'm gonna keep it composed, 09:34:21.900 --> 09:34:24.100 because I wanted today to be like professional casting, 09:34:24.100 --> 09:34:25.860 but I was dying laughing inside, 09:34:25.860 --> 09:34:27.180 looking at what the chat was coming up with. 09:34:27.180 --> 09:34:28.380 You guys are awesome, honestly. 09:34:28.380 --> 09:34:30.380 It's been so much fun. 09:34:30.380 --> 09:34:32.820 Next up, we're gonna have Yamato in here. 09:34:32.820 --> 09:34:37.960 We're gonna have a small break, some like a five minute break for the next series though, and Yamato's gonna come in here and yap away. 09:34:37.960 --> 09:34:40.720 So I'm gonna leave the bracket in here. Yamato's gonna come, yap. 09:34:40.720 --> 09:34:46.460 Potentially, Roxy can yap with Yamato as well, if you guys want to have Roxy in here as well. 09:34:46.460 --> 09:34:53.260 I just want to give a quick reminder, alright? I don't want to shill it too much, but if we get to 9,000 subs today or tomorrow, 09:34:53.260 --> 09:34:59.180 I will guarantee you confirm a King's Gauntlet number two, a second edition of this event next year. 09:34:59.180 --> 09:35:00.980 So you got that sub go on the screen. 09:35:00.980 --> 09:35:03.460 Yamato and Roxy will yap away here. 09:35:03.460 --> 09:35:04.540 Roxy, why don't you come on over. 09:35:04.540 --> 09:35:06.060 Oh, T90, thanks for the raid. 09:35:06.060 --> 09:35:07.700 Welcome to T90, officials, viewers. 09:35:07.700 --> 09:35:10.700 I hope we can get T90 to join us tomorrow for a cast. 09:35:10.700 --> 09:35:12.180 And thank you so much, T90. 09:35:12.180 --> 09:35:13.740 Hope you had a nice time casting. 09:35:13.740 --> 09:35:16.020 All right, let the yap session begin. 09:35:16.020 --> 09:35:17.860 I need a small five to 10 minute break, 09:35:17.860 --> 09:35:20.580 even it might be a little bit bigger break. 09:35:20.580 --> 09:35:22.060 Hello. 09:35:22.060 --> 09:35:24.020 Yamato, you're gonna talk with my wife. 09:35:24.020 --> 09:35:25.780 Hey, buddy. 09:35:25.780 --> 09:35:27.100 Okay. 09:35:27.100 --> 09:35:29.420 All right, don't sound too excited about that, Yamato. 09:35:29.420 --> 09:35:30.540 The hell's wrong with you, man? 09:35:30.540 --> 09:35:31.540 What? 09:35:31.540 --> 09:35:32.540 Jesus. 09:35:32.540 --> 09:35:35.020 Well, I have a fiance, man. 09:35:35.020 --> 09:35:39.620 He's just inting four people at the same time. 09:35:39.620 --> 09:35:40.620 Oh. 09:35:40.620 --> 09:35:42.420 Yamato, I love hearing your voice, by the way. 09:35:42.420 --> 09:35:45.140 It makes me so happy instantly, by the way. 09:35:45.140 --> 09:35:46.140 Absolutely amazing. 09:35:46.140 --> 09:35:47.140 Thank you for coming in. 09:35:47.140 --> 09:35:48.140 I'm looking forward to this, bro. 09:35:48.140 --> 09:35:49.140 I'm looking forward to this. 09:35:49.140 --> 09:35:50.140 Yeah, I love it, bro. 09:35:50.140 --> 09:35:52.500 I've been watching Riff on all day, so I missed all the action. 09:35:52.500 --> 09:35:53.500 I need the recap. 09:35:53.500 --> 09:35:54.500 Bro, take a look at the bracket. 09:35:54.500 --> 09:35:56.620 It looks like you give me a recap of the date. 09:35:56.620 --> 09:35:57.620 Okay, let's go. 09:35:57.620 --> 09:35:59.620 Roxy's gonna come to be on voice with you. 09:35:59.620 --> 09:36:01.620 Enjoy it guys and enjoy the recap. 09:36:01.620 --> 09:36:02.620 You're back five to 10 minutes. 09:36:02.620 --> 09:36:03.620 Enjoy the app session. 09:36:03.620 --> 09:36:05.620 All right. 09:36:05.620 --> 09:36:07.620 Oh, hello there. 09:36:07.620 --> 09:36:10.620 Roxy, nice to meet you. 09:36:10.620 --> 09:36:11.620 Nice to meet you. 09:36:11.620 --> 09:36:13.620 Are you disappointed that when Hera said, 09:36:13.620 --> 09:36:15.620 I'm going to leave my wife on voice, 09:36:15.620 --> 09:36:18.620 it was me and not Grubby? 09:36:18.620 --> 09:36:24.620 Honestly, after he lost, not so much. 09:36:24.620 --> 09:36:26.820 Now I'm kidding. I don't even know what happened in the games. 09:36:27.180 --> 09:36:29.380 You you're not watching. 09:36:29.380 --> 09:36:31.620 I sadly couldn't. I was busy with something. 09:36:31.620 --> 09:36:32.620 So I need a recap. 09:36:32.620 --> 09:36:35.620 I rocks. I need to need the whole breakdown of everything that I missed. 09:36:35.620 --> 09:36:37.220 All the kings that died. 09:36:37.220 --> 09:36:39.820 All the matches that went down. 09:36:39.820 --> 09:36:41.220 Crazy. No, no. 09:36:41.220 --> 09:36:43.220 I didn't have a listen. 09:36:43.220 --> 09:36:45.180 OK, one. 09:36:45.180 --> 09:36:47.020 A lot of elephants. 09:36:47.020 --> 09:36:48.580 A lot of elephants. 09:36:48.580 --> 09:36:51.020 Gravy takes the W. All right. 09:36:51.020 --> 09:36:52.540 Thank you. I forgot. 09:36:52.540 --> 09:36:56.140 I think he was Arabia? I don't know. Chad? Was it Arabia? 09:36:57.340 --> 09:36:57.980 Something. 09:36:59.100 --> 09:37:01.020 Pig one. Game three. 09:37:01.220 --> 09:37:03.700 OK. Another Arabia, I think. 09:37:04.900 --> 09:37:06.140 I don't know, bro. 09:37:06.140 --> 09:37:07.580 Why am I here? 09:37:07.580 --> 09:37:12.220 Just like her and his friends, you know, like when he needs to take like 10 minutes. 09:37:12.460 --> 09:37:14.020 Why? Why is he putting me here? 09:37:15.420 --> 09:37:17.220 Well, so you're playing to the empires, too, right? 09:37:17.220 --> 09:37:18.700 You're also playing to the empires. 09:37:18.820 --> 09:37:20.500 I don't want to make an hundred. 09:37:20.500 --> 09:37:22.300 I would cook you, bro. Oh, damn. 09:37:22.300 --> 09:37:24.300 Okay, yeah, you fried me 09:37:25.180 --> 09:37:27.980 I should have I should have known coaching, you know 09:37:31.100 --> 09:37:38.080 See her a coach grubby so much and it didn't help I know I know it's coaching is terrible. Who got your pig Lewis 09:37:39.140 --> 09:37:41.140 His view is Lewis and I get it 09:37:43.020 --> 09:37:46.320 My coaches were great, I'm the problem like I'll say that straight up 09:37:46.320 --> 09:37:52.240 RedForce was brilliant. He told me so many unique details about the game, about Rot, about 09:37:52.240 --> 09:37:55.280 Berry Saturation. Do you know about Berry Saturation? 09:37:55.280 --> 09:37:56.880 8 is Saturation. 09:37:56.880 --> 09:37:58.880 8 is Saturation. 09:37:58.880 --> 09:37:59.880 Nice. 09:37:59.880 --> 09:38:00.880 8 is Saturation. 09:38:00.880 --> 09:38:01.880 8 is Saturation. 09:38:01.880 --> 09:38:05.760 Chad, say it with us. 8 is Saturation. 09:38:05.760 --> 09:38:06.760 8 is Saturation. 09:38:06.760 --> 09:38:12.600 Yeah, but that's specifically for the Foster Rush. Like, if you put 8 on berries and 09:38:12.600 --> 09:38:14.720 you're doing anything else, you're subhuman. 09:38:14.720 --> 09:38:15.720 Respectfully. 09:38:15.720 --> 09:38:18.720 It's respectful. No, no, it's respectful, bro. It's respectful. 09:38:18.720 --> 09:38:19.720 Whoa. 09:38:19.720 --> 09:38:20.720 Whoa, it's respectful. 09:38:20.720 --> 09:38:24.720 Well, yesterday Hera dropped the midget and you are dropping this. That's crazy. 09:38:24.720 --> 09:38:27.720 Where do you think he gets his spies from, bro? He married a Latina. 09:38:27.720 --> 09:38:29.720 What was he expecting? 09:38:31.720 --> 09:38:33.720 How do you feel about the World Cup? 09:38:33.720 --> 09:38:35.720 Oof, bro. 09:38:35.720 --> 09:38:39.720 Argentina played the other day against Algeria, right? 09:38:39.720 --> 09:38:42.720 And so I came home. I was out all day. 09:38:42.720 --> 09:38:48.660 all day and I had bought a lot of like paint to put the flag on his face I got 09:38:48.660 --> 09:38:55.140 him the jersey okay hats everything when we got to my family's house watched 09:38:55.140 --> 09:39:00.460 match my mom was like what did you do he's not even he's Canadian why are you 09:39:00.460 --> 09:39:04.460 doing this I'm like cuz he married an Argentinian he better live like an 09:39:04.460 --> 09:39:10.380 Argentinian if he's here we're very passionate we're very passionate I'm 09:39:10.380 --> 09:39:15.820 pretty sad that this is a mess is last tango, you know, pretty 09:39:15.820 --> 09:39:18.340 impressive. I'm gonna cry when he's out. Yeah, I don't watch 09:39:18.340 --> 09:39:20.940 football anymore. Like all my all my goats are gone. Like 09:39:20.940 --> 09:39:24.060 sure messy and another around but like all my goats, I'm 09:39:24.060 --> 09:39:29.340 from Sweden, right? Slothan is my guy. He's not taking it. 09:39:30.020 --> 09:39:35.900 I know. Yeah. Yeah. He's over. I'm kidding. What about 09:39:35.940 --> 09:39:39.500 what about? Whoa, whoa, whoa, you just got overrated? 09:39:39.500 --> 09:39:43.100 I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Bro. I'm kidding. Okay. Okay. 09:39:43.700 --> 09:39:50.780 I'm kidding. It's it's an apology is do did you see the interview where they asked him like who's a goat like Ronaldo or Messi and he said 09:39:50.980 --> 09:39:52.980 Can I say me? 09:39:54.100 --> 09:39:57.700 That's what's up. Love the guy. Oh, he gets it. Only he gets away saying that 09:39:59.460 --> 09:40:03.340 Yeah, also you need to loop me in sorry you need to look what's what about the rest of the games? 09:40:03.340 --> 09:40:05.860 I've been the rest. Yeah, just one more thing sing. Was that a bear? 09:40:05.860 --> 09:40:10.360 Which is insane. Dave, thank you so much for the raid and for the co-cast. 09:40:10.360 --> 09:40:14.360 It was awesome. You guys are a really fun trio. 09:40:14.360 --> 09:40:16.360 Yeah, that was it. Thank you. 09:40:16.360 --> 09:40:19.860 Guys, check Dave out. He's an Age of Empires caster. 09:40:19.860 --> 09:40:21.360 And he's way better than her. 09:40:21.360 --> 09:40:23.360 What? Anyways, back to the games. 09:40:23.360 --> 09:40:24.360 Rika. 09:40:24.360 --> 09:40:26.360 Alright. Waga Mama Sing Sing. 09:40:26.360 --> 09:40:28.360 Give me the breakdown. What happened there? 09:40:28.360 --> 09:40:30.360 Waga Mama Sing Sing. 09:40:30.360 --> 09:40:35.360 Dude, Sing Sing got cooked by infantry. 09:40:35.360 --> 09:40:44.600 The Wagamama Infantry, the Armenians, Celts, the Serpents, the Romans, I think he was very 09:40:44.600 --> 09:40:46.600 tilted about that one. 09:40:46.600 --> 09:40:47.600 Respect. 09:40:47.600 --> 09:40:48.600 Honestly, horses are dishonorable. 09:40:48.600 --> 09:40:49.600 You know what? 09:40:49.600 --> 09:40:50.600 I don't bet. 09:40:50.600 --> 09:40:56.600 I don't bet, but if I had money on a player, it would have been on Singsang. 09:40:56.600 --> 09:40:58.600 Thank God I don't bet. 09:40:58.600 --> 09:40:59.600 My goodness. 09:40:59.600 --> 09:41:07.260 but I always have to watch through the lens of the stream and this page is 09:41:07.260 --> 09:41:12.700 just sponsored by I just see the face of who's this man from Team Liquid, the 09:41:12.700 --> 09:41:16.820 deposit bonus is just there on the screen Parma because of Team Liquid, the 09:41:16.820 --> 09:41:18.820 Wikipedia page 09:41:20.300 --> 09:41:22.300 Elijah 09:41:31.660 --> 09:41:37.260 My goodness, sorry, I don't think he wanted that information out there 09:41:40.900 --> 09:41:42.900 It's Palestinian 09:41:46.820 --> 09:41:51.620 Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, the rocks are so offensive. 09:41:51.620 --> 09:41:53.620 But like the cats are around him. 09:41:53.620 --> 09:41:56.420 He's like he's having a feast in the actual house. 09:41:56.420 --> 09:41:58.420 Yeah. 09:41:58.420 --> 09:42:01.220 Oh, you get offended very fast again. 09:42:01.220 --> 09:42:03.220 No, no, no, I don't get offended fast. 09:42:03.220 --> 09:42:05.620 I'm just saying, bro, he's eating on the floor, 09:42:05.620 --> 09:42:07.620 and I'm saying he's Palestinian, 09:42:07.620 --> 09:42:09.620 and then you're saying he's eating like a rat. 09:42:09.620 --> 09:42:11.620 Yeah, and not because of that, my goodness. 09:42:11.620 --> 09:42:13.620 I'm just saying, the way he's eating, 09:42:13.620 --> 09:42:15.620 he's all like crouched over the pizza, 09:42:15.620 --> 09:42:26.100 I'm just trying to get your cancer to try to make the transition for him to grubby more 09:42:26.100 --> 09:42:27.100 natural. 09:42:27.100 --> 09:42:28.100 It is a sight for sore eyes. 09:42:28.100 --> 09:42:30.100 That's all I'm going to say. 09:42:30.100 --> 09:42:31.100 Okay. 09:42:31.100 --> 09:42:32.100 What does that even mean? 09:42:32.100 --> 09:42:33.100 A sight for sore eyes? 09:42:33.100 --> 09:42:35.100 A sight for sore eyes? 09:42:35.100 --> 09:42:36.660 That never made sense to me. 09:42:36.660 --> 09:42:37.660 A sight for sore eyes. 09:42:37.660 --> 09:42:40.420 Why doesn't it make sense to you? 09:42:40.420 --> 09:42:41.420 Can you explain what it means? 09:42:41.420 --> 09:42:43.300 What do you think it means? 09:42:43.300 --> 09:42:45.300 A sight for sore eyes. 09:42:45.300 --> 09:42:55.140 is that what is he's eye drops what does it mean aside for sore eyes 09:42:55.140 --> 09:43:03.060 what would mean I drops yeah when you have sore eyes you use eye drops right but 09:43:03.060 --> 09:43:08.420 whether you have sore eyes yeah the eyes are sore because you played like you 09:43:08.420 --> 09:43:14.180 you practiced your dark age for 16 hours of course and if he's having an 09:43:14.180 --> 09:43:18.860 image that he's eating on the floor and the image is a sight for sore eyes what 09:43:18.860 --> 09:43:25.660 could I be saying so it's like tired eyes only tired eyes would enjoy you know 09:43:25.660 --> 09:43:30.580 enjoy him because it's like blurry something like that you know what 09:43:30.580 --> 09:43:37.380 something like that okay just gonna agree to leave it there okay that's 09:43:37.380 --> 09:43:44.140 So, what keeps you busy while your boy streams? 09:43:44.140 --> 09:43:45.140 I read a lot. 09:43:45.140 --> 09:43:46.140 I'm a reader. 09:43:46.140 --> 09:43:48.380 Okay, so five books right now. 09:43:48.380 --> 09:43:49.380 Oh, no, no, no. 09:43:49.380 --> 09:43:52.380 I am not ready to expose myself on what I like reading. 09:43:52.380 --> 09:43:53.380 I said I read a lot. 09:43:53.380 --> 09:43:54.380 Five books. 09:43:54.380 --> 09:43:57.020 We like to say what I read. 09:43:57.020 --> 09:43:59.020 Top three books. 09:43:59.020 --> 09:44:03.220 You are stranded on an island and you need three books to read for the rest of your 09:44:03.220 --> 09:44:04.220 life. 09:44:04.220 --> 09:44:06.620 Three books to read for the rest of my life. 09:44:06.620 --> 09:44:10.580 OK, I like the invisible life of Adilah Roux. 09:44:11.900 --> 09:44:13.660 Adilah Roux? No. 09:44:14.340 --> 09:44:17.060 It's French. Oh, no, no, no, no. 09:44:17.700 --> 09:44:20.060 The Phantom of Yopra, my guest, Don Lerou. 09:44:20.060 --> 09:44:21.140 Phantom of Yopra? 09:44:21.140 --> 09:44:23.340 I'm sorry. Oh, you're only reading the fancies. 09:44:23.340 --> 09:44:24.820 No, no, no, no, no, no. 09:44:24.820 --> 09:44:26.220 The invisible life of Adilah Roux. 09:44:26.220 --> 09:44:29.660 I don't think it's it's written by by a French author. 09:44:29.660 --> 09:44:31.380 I don't think. OK. 09:44:32.020 --> 09:44:34.420 And then a book that I really, really liked. 09:44:34.420 --> 09:44:36.540 I don't know. I'm thinking recently. 09:44:36.540 --> 09:44:43.380 hmm I kind of don't want to mention it but like it's it's a duology it's the 09:44:43.380 --> 09:44:49.100 heartstring duology by it's called crown me dead and crown me yours it's really 09:44:49.100 --> 09:44:53.580 good I cried a lot actually okay why did you want to mention it why is it 09:44:53.580 --> 09:44:58.300 embarrassing well cuz you know you have a good literal purists when it comes to 09:44:58.300 --> 09:45:01.700 books and they're like oh but it's not like daughter yet ski so it's not it 09:45:01.700 --> 09:45:08.140 doesn't count it's not it's not a little story so it doesn't count so okay 09:45:08.140 --> 09:45:11.340 fuck those guys I thought the same people said the red forces are not a real way to play 09:45:11.340 --> 09:45:18.980 the vampires which was rude you know I was enjoying looping with my horses oh 09:45:18.980 --> 09:45:24.340 yeah you're the loop daddy right yeah I didn't get the loop though I didn't 09:45:24.340 --> 09:45:26.340 a single game of Arabia 09:45:27.260 --> 09:45:29.260 Why made my not me 09:45:29.540 --> 09:45:34.500 Then I didn't win. Yeah, I think it's already. I just didn't give you enough time, you know 09:45:35.340 --> 09:45:39.380 Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think I just didn't give you enough attention 09:45:40.740 --> 09:45:42.740 That's it true. Yeah 09:45:43.540 --> 09:45:50.260 That's sad. It's changed after work of three. I feel you I feel you I got the same attention you did this tournament 09:45:54.340 --> 09:45:57.640 i was always saying on stream how rough it was for my fiance like that i had no 09:45:57.640 --> 09:46:01.600 free time during work of three and then i did h of n players right after and 09:46:01.600 --> 09:46:03.800 well that's her soul brother 09:46:03.800 --> 09:46:06.640 as a as as it's the same 09:46:06.640 --> 09:46:10.320 we both just neglected life 09:46:10.320 --> 09:46:11.960 well that's her soul 09:46:11.960 --> 09:46:13.200 i feel like 09:46:13.200 --> 09:46:16.440 excuse to hang out with grubby 09:46:16.440 --> 09:46:17.840 but not only that bro 09:46:17.840 --> 09:46:20.080 i'm gonna tell you a secret 09:46:20.080 --> 09:46:21.920 i'm gonna expose her a little bit 09:46:21.920 --> 09:46:23.560 once the stream is done 09:46:23.560 --> 09:46:26.000 You know, the camera was off, everybody went home. 09:46:27.240 --> 09:46:29.600 I would be in the room reading or whatever, 09:46:29.600 --> 09:46:32.240 and I would hear her talk to himself. 09:46:32.240 --> 09:46:33.800 And so I'd be like, who are you talking to? 09:46:33.800 --> 09:46:36.360 I don't know, another deal is just a truck. 09:46:36.360 --> 09:46:38.400 And he would be for hours telling the a truck, 09:46:38.400 --> 09:46:41.120 or playing Warcraft 3 with a truck. 09:46:41.120 --> 09:46:42.760 So he was like switching them, you know? 09:46:42.760 --> 09:46:44.160 I was like, what are we doing today? 09:46:44.160 --> 09:46:45.480 A truck after hours? 09:46:47.280 --> 09:46:49.360 The thing is, oh, oh. 09:46:49.360 --> 09:46:51.520 Thank you, Voxie, I'll take it open. 09:46:51.520 --> 09:46:53.360 But why did his voice sound so deep? 09:46:53.360 --> 09:46:55.860 He's like, well, the thing is, though. 09:46:55.860 --> 09:46:58.560 I got to match your deep voice, you maddo. 09:46:58.560 --> 09:47:01.560 The thing is, listen, the late nights with H-Trock, 09:47:01.560 --> 09:47:04.020 it's gonna start out like H-Trock needs some help. 09:47:04.020 --> 09:47:06.420 We play one game of H-Bump 5, I help him. 09:47:06.420 --> 09:47:08.440 And then I'm just like, oh man, 09:47:08.440 --> 09:47:09.720 you're better in age than in Warcraft. 09:47:09.720 --> 09:47:12.680 And you're like, no, a lot of Warcraft right now. 09:47:12.680 --> 09:47:13.960 And then it's like, all right, let's do it. 09:47:13.960 --> 09:47:15.680 We start playing Warcraft for like five hours. 09:47:15.680 --> 09:47:17.320 That was our late night practice. 09:47:18.360 --> 09:47:19.200 Nice. 09:47:19.200 --> 09:47:20.020 It didn't matter. 09:47:20.020 --> 09:47:21.360 He got an admin loss on his end of the film. 09:47:21.360 --> 09:47:27.360 one one oh yeah wait what happened admin loss yeah unfortunately he's he overslept 09:47:27.360 --> 09:47:32.560 what did he do he practice he practice till 4am and missed uh missed the timing 09:47:34.800 --> 09:47:42.720 yeah this is what it is Jesus early you need to call me up yeah i was in a place uh 09:47:43.280 --> 09:47:47.360 replaced a shop with your mano but i was i was afraid you'd destroy it can offer it would 09:47:47.360 --> 09:47:50.060 It would be unfair to him, you know, so obviously... 09:47:50.060 --> 09:47:51.560 Yeah, I would have looped. 09:47:51.560 --> 09:47:53.560 He would have looped around. 09:47:53.560 --> 09:47:55.560 Okay, we can start the next match, by the way. 09:47:55.560 --> 09:47:57.060 It's gonna be... 09:47:57.060 --> 09:47:58.560 Is it Wagamamae Thermal next? 09:47:58.560 --> 09:48:01.560 Yes, Wagamamae Thermal is next. 09:48:01.560 --> 09:48:04.060 Let me get the camera set up, of course. 09:48:04.060 --> 09:48:06.060 Well, you're saving for the spice, bro. 09:48:06.060 --> 09:48:08.060 Yeah, it's only good matchups next. 09:48:08.060 --> 09:48:10.060 Hang up on Grubby. 09:48:10.060 --> 09:48:12.060 Yeah, try and hang up on him. 09:48:14.060 --> 09:48:17.060 I love the beards. 09:48:17.060 --> 09:48:18.060 I love the beard. 09:48:18.060 --> 09:48:22.060 Did he just infantry smoked, sing sing? 09:48:22.060 --> 09:48:23.060 Yeah, yeah. 09:48:23.060 --> 09:48:24.060 Let's catch up on the games. 09:48:24.060 --> 09:48:26.660 He basically went for the infantry rush, two games in a row in Arabia. 09:48:26.660 --> 09:48:27.660 He won both. 09:48:27.660 --> 09:48:32.260 He also showed, though, that he was playing the long bowman on the Redis at Fortress. 09:48:32.260 --> 09:48:34.060 And he did a really good job with it, by the way. 09:48:34.060 --> 09:48:40.060 So now we've seen a pretty balanced approach from Wagamama, but mainly infantry for sure. 09:48:40.060 --> 09:48:42.060 Yes. 09:48:42.060 --> 09:48:44.060 Okay. 09:48:44.060 --> 09:48:47.340 I'm telling them that they can start. Good luck. Have fun. 09:48:47.340 --> 09:48:52.580 So take a quick look at the bracket. We guys have been staring at this, but I just want to kind of center myself here as well. 09:48:52.580 --> 09:48:56.460 Listen guys, we're with Yamato right now. I'm going to be casting the Thermal versus the Wagamama. 09:48:56.460 --> 09:49:00.660 And then we're going to have Grubby versus Knopf as the second set today, or the last set today. 09:49:00.660 --> 09:49:07.260 Let's say this is the loser bracket quarter-final. So Vesta5 loses out, and the winner moves on to the loser bracket semi-final. 09:49:07.260 --> 09:49:11.980 By the way, whoever wins here, the two that win, will move on to the top four. 09:49:11.980 --> 09:49:16.860 So tomorrow we're going to have only the top four of the event still with us. 09:49:16.860 --> 09:49:19.340 Everybody who got top eight will get some prize pool. 09:49:19.340 --> 09:49:23.900 And so this is really the finest, you know, the cream of the crop for the players here. 09:49:23.900 --> 09:49:25.820 And only the finest men left. 09:49:25.820 --> 09:49:27.500 Yamato, of course, one of those men, not... 09:49:27.500 --> 09:49:29.340 What happens if you get 20th? 09:49:30.060 --> 09:49:33.180 If you got 20th, Yamato, you're a really nice guy. 09:49:33.180 --> 09:49:35.740 You don't get any prize pool though, but great person, seriously. 09:49:36.700 --> 09:49:37.500 Nice. 09:49:37.500 --> 09:49:37.740 Yeah. 09:49:38.460 --> 09:49:41.500 That will last longer than whatever money they get. 09:49:41.500 --> 09:49:46.060 I agree. I agree. You matter. Don't let them bring you down there. Very nice. 09:49:47.180 --> 09:49:50.940 Them meaning her. I don't let her bring you down. No, I'm going to be nice today. Okay. 09:49:50.940 --> 09:49:55.660 Because here's the thing. I got some criticism on the tournament that I was being a little too 09:49:55.660 --> 09:49:59.660 mean to Yamato. And I was like, listen, I know Yamato can take it, but I don't want to go 09:49:59.660 --> 09:50:03.260 off the vibe that I'm bullying you. Like you already lost in the tournament. I don't 09:50:03.260 --> 09:50:05.260 You bully me, bro. 09:50:05.260 --> 09:50:07.260 That's crazy. 09:50:07.260 --> 09:50:09.260 You can't bully me, bro. 09:50:09.260 --> 09:50:11.260 But the people think that I am. 09:50:11.260 --> 09:50:13.260 I'm toning it down. I know. 09:50:13.260 --> 09:50:15.260 You're a bit mean to other people. 09:50:15.260 --> 09:50:17.260 Like Death Note. 09:50:17.260 --> 09:50:19.260 Death Note you're mean to. 09:50:19.260 --> 09:50:21.260 Dude, every time you mention Death Note, I just smile. 09:50:21.260 --> 09:50:23.260 I watched that video. 09:50:23.260 --> 09:50:26.260 I watched that video of him running the king of the center about five times yesterday. 09:50:26.260 --> 09:50:29.260 If you haven't seen it, you have to watch it on my YouTube channel. 09:50:29.260 --> 09:50:32.260 It's so good. I'm just literally dying laughing at watching that one. 09:50:32.260 --> 09:50:39.180 that one I'm gonna watch it again tonight back to bullying yeah the nice 09:50:39.180 --> 09:50:42.020 guy here didn't last too long no but I'm gonna try to keep it nice today of 09:50:42.020 --> 09:50:52.900 course oh a truck is here a truck's in a truck what's up Adrian that doesn't work 09:50:53.660 --> 09:50:55.660 Hey truck 09:50:57.140 --> 09:51:01.380 Hey truck is not he is this is boy is asleep boy. He's still sleeping 09:51:03.900 --> 09:51:05.900 Dumbled I 09:51:05.900 --> 09:51:07.960 Need to ask you how many alarms did he miss? 09:51:08.780 --> 09:51:10.780 Well, he missed Ludwig's call 09:51:11.300 --> 09:51:15.000 He is my message on discord. He missed 09:51:15.860 --> 09:51:17.860 The time of course for the events 09:51:17.860 --> 09:51:23.220 only cycles, I'm not going to lie, but only cycles like answer phone calls no? 09:51:23.220 --> 09:51:29.460 Like, do you answer phone calls if somebody calls you like I'm prompted? Do you ever hear a ring? 09:51:29.460 --> 09:51:34.020 I've had my phone unmuted for the last eight years I think. Yeah but like okay you don't hear the ring 09:51:34.020 --> 09:51:38.100 but like you can kind of see that you know it's there by the way I don't know if they've actually 09:51:38.100 --> 09:51:44.580 he's sleeping and he can see them. It's actually started by the way so we're gonna hop in by 09:51:44.580 --> 09:51:50.140 We'll hop into this one. Sorry about that. I was I was waiting for the show, but it hasn't we're missing the dark age 09:51:50.140 --> 09:51:52.140 Bro, we're missing the bore pools 09:51:53.040 --> 09:51:55.040 Take it with difficulty of an every-star a fast 09:51:56.020 --> 09:51:58.020 All right 09:51:59.060 --> 09:52:01.740 No, no H. Yo, you're awake. Yeah 09:52:07.100 --> 09:52:12.740 Don't go to us like that very very sorry, I'm very excited to pass this I don't want to go from the place 09:52:12.740 --> 09:52:16.940 I'm excited for this. I'm sorry. I was late. It was really really foolish 09:52:24.380 --> 09:52:27.580 No worries, no worries. I really enjoy here. That's you thermal 09:52:28.260 --> 09:52:32.080 Please please welcome. I'm gonna give me a give me a little ram rush with some roadmen 09:52:34.580 --> 09:52:39.220 Yep talking talking testing testing. Yeah, let me ask you guys. It's good, bro 09:52:39.220 --> 09:52:44.340 Sounds gorgeous. Let me ask you guys. The the the 09:52:44.340 --> 09:52:47.940 registered fortress have we seen a continuation of the domination of the 09:52:47.940 --> 09:52:53.380 rushes? We've seen a couple more. The strategy has changed. We've seen two rushes 09:52:53.380 --> 09:52:57.220 and it happened very well that they both won. We haven't seen a failed rush so 09:52:57.220 --> 09:53:01.500 far, but the meta's kind of shifted more to a boom. However, Waga could pull out 09:53:01.500 --> 09:53:05.380 a roadman plus ramp push here with the calc. That would be very very strong for him. 09:53:05.380 --> 09:53:07.660 So the Rams that's what I would expect with the Celts 09:53:07.660 --> 09:53:11.040 That's what I was planning to do myself is you pick an infantry sub like the Celts 09:53:11.040 --> 09:53:14.100 You get a bunch of seeds Rams hidden behind the walls and then you surprise them 09:53:14.100 --> 09:53:17.780 I assume that's what he's if I saw a kelton the latter. I would think they're doing that 09:53:29.860 --> 09:53:31.860 You know on the ramparts 09:53:31.860 --> 09:53:36.020 Dude, that would add so much to this mode if the king made your soldiers fight harder when he was nearby. 09:53:36.020 --> 09:53:39.300 Because then you'd have to actually think about it. You'd have to actually bring him along. 09:53:39.620 --> 09:53:43.700 You're like micro the king, but also not lose him. So he's got to fight, but not really. 09:53:43.700 --> 09:53:48.820 That would be kind of cool, but some warcraft action maybe. But listen guys, welcome to game one of 09:53:48.820 --> 09:53:53.620 Uthermal versus Waga. It's a best of five. This is a loser bracket round. So loser is out, 09:53:53.620 --> 09:53:57.700 and winner will move on. Vietnamese for Uthermal, looking to play a little bit more standard. 09:53:57.700 --> 09:54:01.700 And Waga is going to very late with the Keltzer, by the way. I think he's going for the rush. 09:54:01.860 --> 09:54:06.740 This is the build where they go for the rush. They're gonna go rams and woldmen and wold raiders. 09:54:06.740 --> 09:54:09.300 She'd be a very very solid push. I'm curious to see how this plays out. 09:54:10.100 --> 09:54:14.980 Yeah it's pretty exciting. I gotta say water being here is so cool. I did not expect me to get past 09:54:14.980 --> 09:54:22.740 things like that. That is insanely impressive. The roadmen. Oh the infantry's have just been 09:54:22.740 --> 09:54:29.140 dominating. I knew, bro, I knew after I saw that Hera video of the Armenian rush. I should 09:54:29.140 --> 09:54:31.300 I should have just pivoted to that. 09:54:31.300 --> 09:54:34.460 Cause everyone expected me to just do the Castle Rush 09:54:34.460 --> 09:54:36.540 and if I just showed up with man at arms. 09:54:37.420 --> 09:54:39.220 I think that would be really smart actually. 09:54:39.220 --> 09:54:41.780 If you had put a little bit of practice into the men at arms, 09:54:41.780 --> 09:54:44.540 maybe you could have been the right call for you. 09:54:44.540 --> 09:54:46.660 Little bit of surprise strat. 09:54:46.660 --> 09:54:47.900 I was too scared. 09:54:47.900 --> 09:54:49.020 I wasn't bold enough. 09:54:49.020 --> 09:54:50.220 What was your issue in the tournament? 09:54:50.220 --> 09:54:51.060 Oh, never mind. 09:54:51.060 --> 09:54:51.900 I'm sorry. 09:54:51.900 --> 09:54:56.900 I was trying to bone over failure. 09:54:56.980 --> 09:54:58.820 I'm sorry. 09:54:58.820 --> 09:55:05.940 Over failures, that's not like number one bond over it's still a failure to be fair with respect 09:55:05.940 --> 09:55:08.900 This is what I was pregnant as we got that was up late last night practicing 09:55:09.180 --> 09:55:13.060 This type of rush and then the monk rush on arena. I was trying to get these down 09:55:13.060 --> 09:55:16.220 It's kind of a monk rush to the table. Yeah 09:55:16.220 --> 09:55:19.940 I thought it'd be cool to do a monk rush but I was doing it over and over I couldn't get the timing right 09:55:19.940 --> 09:55:24.820 He thrumbo says but I can already feel some BS coming away. Yeah, he sniffing some BS right now 09:55:24.820 --> 09:55:31.780 I was trying to do the workshop instantly by the way wait that's such aura to say that because then your opponent gets mind game 09:55:31.780 --> 09:55:36.980 They're like minute should I still go for it? Although if you're kelts at this point that you just thought you have to commit 09:55:36.980 --> 09:55:40.820 I think you might have to go for it like kelts can win the late game 09:55:41.700 --> 09:55:45.180 But I feel like if you like if you're planning to do this and he's got seven on gold 09:55:45.180 --> 09:55:46.340 He's for sure plan to do this 09:55:46.340 --> 09:55:50.780 I think you just have to commit here because if not you're very late to the boom and so I think you 09:55:50.780 --> 09:55:54.460 The normal kind of senses this I wonder how he's gonna react to get the castage faster 09:55:54.820 --> 09:55:57.880 The standard approach is you just drop two TC's and you boom 09:55:57.980 --> 09:56:03.940 But if you send something coming I would go for the one extra town center and then a siege workshop or start massing your unit 09:56:03.940 --> 09:56:08.780 That's the way to defend some kind of approach or some kind of push approach from from Wagat 09:56:08.780 --> 09:56:11.600 So we want to do it cut up one town center in favor of some extra army 09:56:12.260 --> 09:56:17.420 But on you thermal side he kind of has to do it blind right you just to kind of sniff it out because you're not gonna be able to see 09:56:18.260 --> 09:56:20.260 anything until the Rams leave the gate 09:56:20.780 --> 09:56:25.020 You could hover here, but yeah, I mean you see them leave the gate, but that gives you a lot of time, right? 09:56:25.020 --> 09:56:30.940 Ramps are kind of slow, so if you see them here, you get a minute to kind of prepare like a siege workshop in one manganoff. 09:56:30.940 --> 09:56:36.700 You also have the wall that can buy you some time. Oh, Talon Center forward is not it, though, by the way. 09:56:36.700 --> 09:56:40.220 It's the prime target for the Rams. Kind of an interesting choice there for me there, Mo. 09:56:40.300 --> 09:56:46.740 Okay, what about the proxy workshop from the Celts, considering it comes so late, the Castle Age? 09:56:47.140 --> 09:56:49.820 Why don't we send out a couple of workers and build it in the front? 09:56:49.820 --> 09:56:54.820 Actually, Yamato? That's a really good idea. Why is it not going for it? 09:56:54.820 --> 09:56:58.820 I think it's a really good idea. Just proxy workshop, so you have the rams hit faster 09:56:58.820 --> 09:57:00.820 instead of walking across the map with them. I like that. 09:57:00.820 --> 09:57:04.820 What do you want to hide them though? 09:57:04.820 --> 09:57:08.820 Well, you can hide them on the side. No one's really scouting the side of their base. 09:57:08.820 --> 09:57:10.820 I mean, they are scouting for relics, kind of. 09:57:10.820 --> 09:57:12.820 Oh, I see, like, pretty sweet workshop there. Yeah, yeah. 09:57:12.820 --> 09:57:13.820 That would be sick. 09:57:13.820 --> 09:57:16.820 The two scouts are not busy at all. There's a love of squirrel there. 09:57:16.820 --> 09:57:18.820 They're not giving any information right now. 09:57:18.820 --> 09:57:20.380 They're arguing, bro. 09:57:20.380 --> 09:57:22.260 In an open field, yeah. 09:57:22.260 --> 09:57:23.980 Yeah, and just because viewers that might not 09:57:23.980 --> 09:57:26.380 have seen this rush before, let's talk about this rush 09:57:26.380 --> 09:57:26.740 a little bit. 09:57:26.740 --> 09:57:29.380 We've seen it twice before, and it's worked both times. 09:57:29.380 --> 09:57:30.980 Once with the Japanese from Waga, 09:57:30.980 --> 09:57:33.340 and once with Mr. Llama, who actually beat Pig with it, 09:57:33.340 --> 09:57:34.460 which is a huge upset. 09:57:34.460 --> 09:57:35.740 He did it with a melee. 09:57:35.740 --> 09:57:36.980 Now we're seeing it with Celts. 09:57:36.980 --> 09:57:39.420 It's World Raiders from inside the walls. 09:57:39.420 --> 09:57:41.300 Rams from inside the walls. 09:57:41.300 --> 09:57:43.020 Rams from Celts attack faster. 09:57:43.020 --> 09:57:45.580 Roadmen, Road Raiders, very strong infantry. 09:57:45.580 --> 09:57:46.820 You take both of these units. 09:57:46.820 --> 09:57:48.780 You load the World Raiders into the Rams. 09:57:48.780 --> 09:57:51.020 and you send the ram straight across the map 09:57:51.020 --> 09:57:52.240 and try to wipe your opponent. 09:57:52.240 --> 09:57:54.620 You thermal with three TC setup 09:57:54.620 --> 09:57:57.420 doesn't seem to be adapting to any kind of defense so far. 09:57:57.420 --> 09:57:58.260 Yeah. 09:57:58.260 --> 09:58:01.380 He's pure boom, pure boom. 09:58:01.380 --> 09:58:03.300 There's gonna be five full rams 09:58:03.300 --> 09:58:06.620 with 25 roadward riders coming his way. 09:58:06.620 --> 09:58:08.620 And he's gonna have to adapt so quick. 09:58:08.620 --> 09:58:09.620 This is spooky. 09:58:10.660 --> 09:58:12.540 By the way, I saw you on the last series. 09:58:12.540 --> 09:58:15.740 You thermal definitely gets a little bit tilted 09:58:15.740 --> 09:58:17.980 on these non-Arabia maps 09:58:17.980 --> 09:58:22.020 Yeah, cheese hits him. So if that's game one and this somehow takes him out 09:58:22.020 --> 09:58:24.900 You might be throwing off for the whole rest of the series. Here we go chat 09:58:24.900 --> 09:58:31.580 Here we go. It's you thermal sending villages to the middle with another miss click. This has happened every set so far at least once 09:58:31.580 --> 09:58:33.980 It's hilarious. How consistent he is with that miss play? 09:58:34.780 --> 09:58:38.340 Well, that's not special. You can't stop it now. It's part of your brain 09:58:40.980 --> 09:58:44.340 He's gonna send one out, you know the purpose get a little scout out 09:58:44.340 --> 09:58:48.020 What is your thermal spending home guys? 09:58:48.020 --> 09:58:49.020 What is he spending? 09:58:49.020 --> 09:58:50.020 It's so scary. 09:58:50.020 --> 09:58:53.180 He's going literally pure boom. 09:58:53.180 --> 09:58:59.100 It's crazy to say out loud I smell some cheese and then do the most aggressive greedy opening 09:58:59.100 --> 09:59:00.100 possible. 09:59:00.100 --> 09:59:04.460 Yes, it's like he's saying that I expect something to come my way and I will not prepare 09:59:04.460 --> 09:59:09.860 for it at all and if I lose it's the most map and I hate it. 09:59:09.860 --> 09:59:11.960 If you build some outposts here, I would love it. 09:59:11.960 --> 09:59:13.340 Give us some outposts. 09:59:13.340 --> 09:59:15.100 Or is it just a passive Uthermo? 09:59:15.100 --> 09:59:15.980 It's a Uthermo. 09:59:15.980 --> 09:59:18.020 It's literally a Uthermo. 09:59:18.020 --> 09:59:18.940 No room, by the way. 09:59:18.940 --> 09:59:19.740 It doesn't need stone? 09:59:19.740 --> 09:59:20.740 Dude, wouldn't it be awesome though 09:59:20.740 --> 09:59:23.060 if the Uthermo villager sees the rush coming 09:59:23.060 --> 09:59:24.580 and it turns out to be the greatest? 09:59:24.580 --> 09:59:26.460 It works perfectly. 09:59:26.460 --> 09:59:28.420 That would be great, but it's walking straight 09:59:28.420 --> 09:59:31.500 into the enemy scout and it's likely to just die. 09:59:31.500 --> 09:59:33.140 Oh, no, hold on, hold on. 09:59:33.140 --> 09:59:34.700 Wait a minute. 09:59:34.700 --> 09:59:35.860 Hold up. 09:59:35.860 --> 09:59:37.620 Quick check on this rush, by the way. 09:59:37.620 --> 09:59:39.460 It's being set up. 09:59:39.460 --> 09:59:41.220 four better rooms at least. 09:59:41.220 --> 09:59:42.720 Model road raters. 09:59:45.020 --> 09:59:46.420 Oh, Siege Workshop, this is beautiful. 09:59:46.420 --> 09:59:47.500 Oh, wow, I actually love this. 09:59:47.500 --> 09:59:48.340 He's in a boom-free. 09:59:48.340 --> 09:59:49.420 So late, though. 09:59:49.420 --> 09:59:51.260 No, but it's actually okay, though, 09:59:51.260 --> 09:59:53.900 because if you just blind, it makes two meganos. 09:59:53.900 --> 09:59:55.180 Like, he's last time, right? 09:59:55.180 --> 09:59:56.020 He can make two meganos. 09:59:56.020 --> 09:59:57.900 It's, the ramp's just low. 09:59:57.900 --> 09:59:59.060 And it's not that hidden. 09:59:59.060 --> 10:00:00.740 Like, if Uther will expect the rush to come. 10:00:00.740 --> 10:00:01.580 You can flint stone them, though. 10:00:01.580 --> 10:00:02.420 Flint stone them. 10:00:03.500 --> 10:00:05.020 Move forward faster. 10:00:06.300 --> 10:00:08.780 And the thing is, I think the angle, 10:00:08.780 --> 10:00:10.900 You can do like a crazy sandwich. 10:00:10.900 --> 10:00:12.380 If he's spotted where the castle is, 10:00:12.380 --> 10:00:13.740 he's come from two sides. 10:00:14.740 --> 10:00:16.260 Yeah, one from the middle, one from the side, 10:00:16.260 --> 10:00:18.420 or like both sides, you think? 10:00:18.420 --> 10:00:21.220 Just a burger, you know, just a ram burger. 10:00:21.220 --> 10:00:23.060 A ram burger, yeah. 10:00:23.060 --> 10:00:23.900 All right. 10:00:23.900 --> 10:00:24.980 That's the classic ram burger. 10:00:24.980 --> 10:00:26.580 By the way, Uthermost still funnily 10:00:26.580 --> 10:00:28.220 builds villages outside his base. 10:00:28.220 --> 10:00:29.220 This is ridiculous. 10:00:29.220 --> 10:00:30.580 It's a record number of times now 10:00:30.580 --> 10:00:32.300 that he's Uthermling his villagers. 10:00:32.300 --> 10:00:33.580 But he's up 22 bills. 10:00:33.580 --> 10:00:36.060 He could throw a couple of rounds for fun missions. 10:00:36.060 --> 10:00:36.900 Yeah. 10:00:36.900 --> 10:00:37.740 Little girl? 10:00:37.740 --> 10:00:42.220 his chances of surviving are like 50% higher instantly. 10:00:42.220 --> 10:00:43.060 Yeah. 10:00:43.060 --> 10:00:45.700 A couple of meganos make this way worse. 10:00:45.700 --> 10:00:47.780 But he's grouping them. 10:00:47.780 --> 10:00:48.620 He's grouping them. 10:00:48.620 --> 10:00:49.940 He's grouping the speed. 10:00:49.940 --> 10:00:50.780 He doesn't know. 10:00:50.780 --> 10:00:52.060 Why is this bad, Yamato? 10:00:52.060 --> 10:00:52.980 Tell the viewers. 10:00:52.980 --> 10:00:56.740 If you group units, they match the lowest speed. 10:00:56.740 --> 10:00:58.460 But they are faster. 10:00:58.460 --> 10:01:00.460 You're gonna flintstone them 10:01:00.460 --> 10:01:02.580 by putting your bros in them. 10:01:02.580 --> 10:01:03.420 Yeah, you're so right. 10:01:03.420 --> 10:01:04.900 Five is the quickest. 10:01:04.900 --> 10:01:05.740 Oh, he knows it's coming now. 10:01:05.740 --> 10:01:06.580 He knows it's coming. 10:01:06.580 --> 10:01:08.780 They're going off the slowest ram 10:01:09.460 --> 10:01:12.420 Okay, yeah, they're just going 10:01:15.100 --> 10:01:17.100 Just slowing everybody down 10:01:19.740 --> 10:01:23.160 I thought he clicked the petard into the tiger 10:01:25.260 --> 10:01:27.260 I'm sweet enough you can 10:01:27.980 --> 10:01:32.980 The tiger Ratton's coming out to meet this head on oh you could set the guitars here 10:01:32.980 --> 10:01:40.340 He's got to be careful there you thermal slowing down the push a little bit to manganals here to defend 10:01:40.340 --> 10:01:42.460 But you have to step the potards here 10:01:42.460 --> 10:01:45.620 Potards are here to kill the wall by the way two hits on a potard 10:01:45.620 --> 10:01:49.700 But you start on to a wall here perfect. He's beating the for the manganals 10:01:51.580 --> 10:01:53.580 Oh 10:02:02.980 --> 10:02:07.740 Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god 10:02:15.740 --> 10:02:19.180 To die though to die and hold on the villagers being called in it's London, baby 10:02:21.940 --> 10:02:23.940 Oh my god 10:02:23.940 --> 10:02:29.660 Oh my god, no loom, a regular loom in the chat, I can't believe it! 10:02:29.660 --> 10:02:34.860 It's every game, it's every game, I swear to god, I'm so mad, look at this, no loom, oh my god! 10:02:36.200 --> 10:02:41.620 I think you could add 500 elo boys to your thermal, already the highest in the tournament, which is like, automatically buying loom. 10:02:41.940 --> 10:02:43.940 Crazy, bro, it's crazy. 10:02:44.440 --> 10:02:44.940 What? 10:02:44.940 --> 10:02:45.820 He's still home! 10:02:45.820 --> 10:02:47.240 He's still on the ramps! 10:02:47.240 --> 10:02:48.360 He killed all the ramps! 10:02:48.360 --> 10:02:51.660 He killed all the ramps with loomless villagers. 10:02:53.940 --> 10:02:55.940 Wait, this is good for you, Zemmall. 10:02:55.940 --> 10:02:57.940 I think you skipped the castle. 10:02:57.940 --> 10:02:59.940 You got a loop. 10:02:59.940 --> 10:03:03.940 You have to get away from here, and there's not one in a million miles. 10:03:03.940 --> 10:03:05.940 Another 40-hour train to get here. 10:03:05.940 --> 10:03:07.940 Yeah. 10:03:07.940 --> 10:03:09.940 I think targeting the castle, that was a mistake. 10:03:09.940 --> 10:03:11.940 You should have just pushed in deeper past the castle, 10:03:11.940 --> 10:03:13.940 because this castle is not really defending anything. 10:03:13.940 --> 10:03:15.940 Yeah. 10:03:15.940 --> 10:03:17.940 Wait, getting that TC on the left would have been nice. 10:03:17.940 --> 10:03:19.940 Where's the king? 10:03:19.940 --> 10:03:21.940 Okay, the king was running around. 10:03:21.940 --> 10:03:25.740 The King was right. I was the king in the castle that would have been oh my god 10:03:25.840 --> 10:03:29.420 Wait, I don't know if he knows the King is to do things on a way since the King out of the Sun 10:03:30.740 --> 10:03:33.380 Because the village of mistake with the King just sends it to 10:03:34.660 --> 10:03:37.580 I can die I can die. Well, dude. I guess it's 10:03:38.140 --> 10:03:39.940 inspirational 10:03:39.940 --> 10:03:41.740 Fuckers 10:03:41.740 --> 10:03:43.880 King's yelling at his men, but he just 10:03:45.220 --> 10:03:50.660 Now he just takes two buildings near the King. He doesn't know the King is there. He doesn't know the King is there 10:03:51.940 --> 10:03:57.620 forward siege i mean that's the last 10:03:57.620 --> 10:04:00.820 logger now is yeah i think you have to 10:04:00.820 --> 10:04:03.780 catch it he's 30 miles down it's a mistake 10:04:03.780 --> 10:04:05.540 though i think fighting on castle side 10:04:05.540 --> 10:04:07.540 is a mistake this is something that 10:04:07.540 --> 10:04:09.060 red force taught me that you just don't 10:04:09.060 --> 10:04:10.900 fight on castle side because it's like 10:04:10.900 --> 10:04:12.420 if you come from left or right you have 10:04:12.420 --> 10:04:15.060 way more space to play with where's the 10:04:15.060 --> 10:04:17.300 king sense the king left oh he went to 10:04:17.300 --> 10:04:18.500 the town center okay can you see the 10:04:18.500 --> 10:04:24.520 the town center he's fine I was setting up more rams now forward sees workshop 10:04:24.520 --> 10:04:27.520 with the couch the things you can maybe try another push I mean you might as well 10:04:27.520 --> 10:04:30.560 try another push like the first one works so well if you just bring more 10:04:30.560 --> 10:04:34.200 rams though I feel like five the first one was okay but maybe six or six okay 10:04:34.200 --> 10:04:38.120 maybe yeah maybe six or seven I'll finish it off I'll say I'm not scared 10:04:38.120 --> 10:04:42.360 six or seven rams coming a little bit more than five and I think you can make 10:04:42.360 --> 10:04:48.400 it happen honestly I'll say I'm not scared I appreciate your bravery yeah 10:04:48.400 --> 10:04:52.240 I do think you got you can't pivot from here. The economy is so far behind 10:04:52.240 --> 10:04:56.680 So you have to kind of like hope he thinks you're going back to town centers and you do one last 10:04:57.560 --> 10:04:59.560 one last push 10:05:01.400 --> 10:05:03.400 Put all in the line I 10:05:03.400 --> 10:05:06.600 Do think you need POV from the pro POV here at like 10:05:07.120 --> 10:05:12.240 It seems to me that the reason that didn't work is he he did the Rams on the slowest speed like 10:05:13.040 --> 10:05:17.440 That could have gone so much better, but he was there a minute late, right? Well 10:05:18.400 --> 10:05:22.700 I mean not really because if you just went with a fast speed ramps is only going with threes 10:05:22.700 --> 10:05:23.820 It's not that good 10:05:23.820 --> 10:05:29.580 I think why it failed is that he just sent the ramps after the manganose the ram should have all hit the castle and the 10:05:29.820 --> 10:05:34.480 World Raiders should have went for the manganose by the way, this is the crazy sneak attack 10:05:34.480 --> 10:05:37.680 We're going through the hole between the trees. It's a secret passage 10:05:41.200 --> 10:05:43.200 The mangos are there though 10:05:43.940 --> 10:05:45.940 Melissa comes out. Okay 10:05:48.400 --> 10:05:56.040 You thermal killed that guy by the way. Yeah the man knows what's like a guy refuses like he's still on his flip phone 10:05:56.040 --> 10:05:58.040 You know 10:06:06.600 --> 10:06:12.840 Everyone back and all that. Oh my god. He opens the gate. No freaking way. Open the game open the man has all the 10:06:12.840 --> 10:06:17.840 Get the mangoes! Get the mangoes! Get the rams in! 10:06:17.840 --> 10:06:20.840 Oh, he needs to step to the last one though. 10:06:20.840 --> 10:06:21.840 One more, one more, one more! 10:06:21.840 --> 10:06:23.840 Not quite, not quite, not quite, not quite. 10:06:23.840 --> 10:06:25.840 With the rams in the gate, there's one manganelle. 10:06:25.840 --> 10:06:28.840 Dude, a blunder from your thermo, but could have been a master, 10:06:28.840 --> 10:06:32.840 like a master, you know, of a little bit of bait there. 10:06:32.840 --> 10:06:36.840 Yeah, I mean, you kind of just slaughtered the extra loads. 10:06:36.840 --> 10:06:38.840 Ooh, the gate lives. 10:06:38.840 --> 10:06:41.840 Yeah, three rams going down. 10:06:41.840 --> 10:06:48.080 Going down mega losses a solid defense. I like that you thermal okay. He's doing the thermal. Oh my god. Oh mega you thermal 10:06:49.240 --> 10:06:51.240 thermal 10:07:02.280 --> 10:07:04.280 Start a side face or something 10:07:04.280 --> 10:07:09.000 I'm sending unloomed villagers at you, it's just a freebie. 10:07:09.000 --> 10:07:10.880 Wait, well I guess I can send out some patards by the way. 10:07:10.880 --> 10:07:13.520 Because of the king win condition, I would try another push. 10:07:13.520 --> 10:07:16.160 You never know when you can set that king. 10:07:16.160 --> 10:07:19.000 I would bring actually like 20 patards 10:07:19.000 --> 10:07:21.760 and you just try one last push with those patards 10:07:21.760 --> 10:07:23.320 and see if you can make it work. 10:07:23.320 --> 10:07:25.640 And he's bringing two though. 10:07:25.640 --> 10:07:28.840 Two patards and a dream, they get sniped here. 10:07:28.840 --> 10:07:29.680 They're going through the front. 10:07:29.680 --> 10:07:31.160 Mango. 10:07:31.160 --> 10:07:34.080 Okay, this is kind of a nice pocket, I like this. 10:07:34.080 --> 10:07:37.280 He needs to split to his world road nendo and target the mangonels. 10:07:37.280 --> 10:07:39.280 Yep, Ballistics is coming in now. 10:07:39.280 --> 10:07:40.280 There's so many archers though. 10:07:40.280 --> 10:07:41.480 Yeah, I'm not feeling this one. 10:07:41.480 --> 10:07:42.480 I don't think we've got enough. 10:07:42.480 --> 10:07:44.480 He'll kill the mangos though, at least. 10:07:44.480 --> 10:07:46.880 He needs to turn the king and make him come out of his hiding spot. 10:07:46.880 --> 10:07:47.880 He needs to like... 10:07:47.880 --> 10:07:52.880 He needs to insult his honor. 10:07:52.880 --> 10:07:57.880 Yeah, I think besides the king snap here, which is likely not to happen. 10:07:57.880 --> 10:08:00.480 I think there's not much these world raiders can do. 10:08:00.480 --> 10:08:02.680 He does see the town center garrison. 10:08:02.680 --> 10:08:06.980 You might be looking for a tower or something, but besides that, there's really not a whole 10:08:06.980 --> 10:08:08.480 lot these guys are doing here. 10:08:08.480 --> 10:08:14.360 Yeah, I mean, you could kill 30 villagers with this and still be behind, so it's just not... 10:08:14.360 --> 10:08:15.360 Tough. 10:08:15.360 --> 10:08:16.360 Yeah. 10:08:16.360 --> 10:08:17.360 It's tough. 10:08:17.360 --> 10:08:18.360 Good strat though. 10:08:18.360 --> 10:08:19.360 Good strat. 10:08:19.360 --> 10:08:20.360 Yeah. 10:08:20.360 --> 10:08:22.800 Well, Aatrox, you can't prepare this and you brought it, you would have lost, so don't 10:08:22.800 --> 10:08:23.800 feel too bad. 10:08:23.800 --> 10:08:24.800 I would have lost, so yeah, I don't feel too bad. 10:08:24.800 --> 10:08:25.800 I'm well rested. 10:08:25.800 --> 10:08:30.360 You see yourself the stress of using this strategy and losing a third of this fight. 10:08:30.360 --> 10:08:31.360 Yeah, I'm using this. 10:08:31.360 --> 10:08:37.360 to me yeah it's good I'm glad to just be watching 10:08:37.360 --> 10:08:44.320 my face while he beats my ass that was moving out now feeling quite confident 10:08:44.320 --> 10:08:48.440 by the way look at that quality Jesus thermal has lost both better said 10:08:48.440 --> 10:08:53.120 fortress play games they played in the last two sets I believe he lost one 10:08:53.120 --> 10:08:58.600 to sing sing and he's lost one in his last match and so I feel like getting a 10:08:58.600 --> 10:09:02.500 win here is actually huge for you thermal yeah I get some confidence play 10:09:02.500 --> 10:09:08.380 his style I said against this command you thermal is my favorite to win at all 10:09:08.380 --> 10:09:12.820 I have faith in this man yeah he's in the losers bracket though and he's playing 10:09:12.820 --> 10:09:16.140 up against grubby even if he wins this match assuming there's no upset and 10:09:16.140 --> 10:09:20.680 tough so it's gonna be tough like he's got to get through a lot of top names 10:09:20.680 --> 10:09:25.060 he wants to make it through to the finals yeah it's tough I think I'm 10:09:25.060 --> 10:09:29.540 thinking pig lately something about pig I'm so impressed by he's so so good in 10:09:29.540 --> 10:09:34.740 his matches and yeah he's getting better too by the way under yeah he's like 10:09:34.740 --> 10:09:39.180 learning as he goes yeah yeah I don't know big is too good of a caster to be 10:09:39.180 --> 10:09:44.700 this good at the game he needs to like distribute his attribute points a 10:09:44.700 --> 10:09:48.980 little bit more fair you know like this is like one of those is did you guys 10:09:48.980 --> 10:09:52.540 ever place swords and sandals you know with the cheat code you could put in 10:09:52.540 --> 10:10:01.100 the beginning you didn't play swords and sandals nobody played 10:10:01.100 --> 10:10:05.500 no one played swords and sandals 10:10:05.500 --> 10:10:11.540 people the testing it's going to go they did grubby with the raid welcome to 10:10:11.540 --> 10:10:15.220 grubby viewers guys thank you for coming in here thank you for the raid grubby by 10:10:15.220 --> 10:10:20.700 the way I think it's confirmed grubby will be playing Knopf tomorrow Knopf 10:10:20.700 --> 10:10:25.700 versus grab will happen tomorrow 13 GMT the match will be delayed and no admin loss because 10:10:25.700 --> 10:10:29.300 it's not a truck so that's how it is. That sounds fair. That sounds fair. Yeah, that's 10:10:29.300 --> 10:10:34.140 good. Nice. That's how it is. It's super, super late for him, right? So just make sense. Yeah, 10:10:34.140 --> 10:10:37.980 you've been up all day. They're both European. I spoke about the way we're all it's all 10:10:37.980 --> 10:10:42.500 good. Yeah. I have to ask you, gents, how hot is it where you guys are right now? 10:10:42.500 --> 10:10:48.420 Like how? What's the weather like? It's cold here down. It's cold. It's not too cold. 10:10:48.420 --> 10:10:50.800 It's a little cold, a little chilly. 10:10:50.800 --> 10:10:52.420 How about you, Eichilk? 10:10:52.420 --> 10:10:53.860 Super hot here in LA. 10:10:53.860 --> 10:10:55.260 Super sunny day. 10:10:55.260 --> 10:10:56.020 I am melting. 10:10:56.020 --> 10:10:58.300 We don't have AC over here in Germany. 10:10:58.300 --> 10:10:59.460 Man, I don't know why. 10:10:59.460 --> 10:11:01.220 The Germans are like, I'm sweating. 10:11:01.220 --> 10:11:02.220 My desk is freezing. 10:11:02.220 --> 10:11:03.300 I lived in Germany. 10:11:03.300 --> 10:11:04.060 It's so true. 10:11:04.060 --> 10:11:05.300 28 degrees. 10:11:05.300 --> 10:11:07.860 You have no AC and everyone's throwing dial up internet. 10:11:07.860 --> 10:11:10.420 And I don't expect it to be AC. 10:11:10.420 --> 10:11:12.500 Germany's saving the planet for other people to live 10:11:12.500 --> 10:11:14.340 in it like insane. 10:11:14.340 --> 10:11:15.580 No AC, bro. 10:11:15.580 --> 10:11:17.620 You're like that militia in you thermal's base, 10:11:17.620 --> 10:11:21.620 There's some aspects you're just sticking to the classics. 10:11:23.620 --> 10:11:25.620 Oh, god damn heatwave. 10:11:25.620 --> 10:11:28.620 By the way, one last push. One last push for Wagon. 10:11:28.620 --> 10:11:32.620 We got one Patard. We got one Magno, one Ram. 10:11:32.620 --> 10:11:35.620 Trying to knock down this outpost. It's impurely for your thermal. 10:11:35.620 --> 10:11:38.620 So barring any king step, this game is practically over here. 10:11:39.620 --> 10:11:41.620 It kind of matches their range units though. 10:11:41.620 --> 10:11:43.620 Look at these range units. 10:11:43.620 --> 10:11:46.620 They're kind of lost on the map here and they're walking slower. 10:11:46.620 --> 10:11:48.960 He's got so many of them though, like I got 10:11:50.100 --> 10:11:52.640 Them with the ram bro. I really substance this 10:11:53.940 --> 10:11:55.260 Look there 10:11:55.260 --> 10:11:59.580 If I'm walking in this spot, I send all my villagers to the corner take a quick nap 10:12:00.060 --> 10:12:04.360 Catch up on some sleep and then you're ready for the next game because there's just no way to win this this one 10:12:04.360 --> 10:12:08.600 This one at this point you thermal would have to quit I there's not I 10:12:09.540 --> 10:12:12.520 Mean each way if you send I mean I guess you can catch the king 10:12:12.520 --> 10:12:13.520 Where's the key? 10:12:13.520 --> 10:12:15.520 Each wave he sends is smaller than the last one. 10:12:15.520 --> 10:12:18.400 It's getting later in the game and his waves are smaller than the previous one. 10:12:18.400 --> 10:12:19.400 Yeah, exactly. 10:12:19.400 --> 10:12:21.400 Smaller waves and more defense from your thermal. 10:12:21.400 --> 10:12:24.480 It's like, if you defend the first rush, you can always defend and that's why these 10:12:24.480 --> 10:12:26.000 Alden pushes have to work one shot. 10:12:26.000 --> 10:12:27.320 If they do, they're very good. 10:12:27.320 --> 10:12:30.200 If not, they look terrible and this is exactly what we're seeing here. 10:12:30.200 --> 10:12:33.600 The strategy did not look too hot past that first rush. 10:12:33.600 --> 10:12:36.720 And I think Waga is just looking for the king now, which I honestly appreciate. 10:12:36.720 --> 10:12:38.000 I think that you should do this. 10:12:38.000 --> 10:12:41.520 You never know if your opponent makes a mistake, but your thermal is safe. 10:12:41.520 --> 10:12:43.520 Oh, they... 10:12:43.520 --> 10:12:47.520 They don't real freak, you just put a villager in every building. 10:12:47.520 --> 10:12:49.520 Still no loom, by the way. 10:12:49.520 --> 10:12:52.520 You did that earlier in the tournament. I don't know if it was Youth or War Shrinksing. 10:12:52.520 --> 10:12:55.520 They put a spearman in like three different towers so there's a flag on it. 10:12:55.520 --> 10:12:59.520 So you couldn't tell where the... I was so impressed. I was like, what a mindbite. 10:12:59.520 --> 10:13:01.520 Yeah, yeah. 10:13:01.520 --> 10:13:03.520 A lot of those dying? 10:13:03.520 --> 10:13:05.520 Unloomed villagers, of course. 10:13:05.520 --> 10:13:09.520 You could do that. For example, there's a flag on this tower, could be the king. 10:13:09.520 --> 10:13:14.080 on the castle to complete the king put a few more up and really confuse your phone and that's why kings 10:13:14.080 --> 10:13:18.480 have just so hard to do by the way and that dude wagas really trying this one he's adding in siege 10:13:18.480 --> 10:13:23.120 workshops zipping his r-blast dude I really hate going r-blast when you have rat than archers just 10:13:23.120 --> 10:13:26.960 play rat than archers they're really good they're better than our blood what's the difference I 10:13:27.600 --> 10:13:32.000 they both own me but I don't understand what rocknarders why they're so good they have a 10:13:32.000 --> 10:13:36.960 weird sound with issue they're they're anti archer archers but they also just have better 10:13:36.960 --> 10:13:41.840 stats and generic arbalest for the most part so it's almost always worth going for them. 10:13:41.840 --> 10:13:44.880 Most archery and you can do it like that. They're always going to be a little bit better 10:13:44.880 --> 10:13:50.160 than arbalest in some way at least. Like why do I see britain's players make arbalest 10:13:50.160 --> 10:13:53.440 ever when they have longbows? I don't get it. Well sometimes you don't have the castles 10:13:53.440 --> 10:13:56.240 right? Longbows are better but they're more expensive and you don't have the castle 10:13:56.240 --> 10:14:05.480 production sometimes. GG GG GG. Not the most exciting final moments there but you 10:14:05.480 --> 10:14:10.520 thermal was against the Robster for a second here. Waga you have to respect the strategy because at 10:14:10.520 --> 10:14:14.920 the end of the day even though it looked so hot in this game it has been proven to work 10:14:14.920 --> 10:14:18.680 but maybe because it was a bit kind of on the radar you thermal was able to go for the early 10:14:18.680 --> 10:14:22.760 siege and despite the defense not being too clean it was good enough got the villagers 10:14:22.760 --> 10:14:26.600 dealt with the push and he just smooth sailing from there. Well play to your thermal he wins 10:14:26.600 --> 10:14:29.720 the register for just for I think the first time in the tournament maybe the second time. 10:14:30.920 --> 10:14:34.680 I have to say Waga mama like for anybody that is doing this push because 10:14:34.680 --> 10:14:45.880 My whole strategy and the prep for this was you have to make sure that you choose the wall that you want to breach very carefully and you cannot waste any time. 10:14:46.280 --> 10:14:50.880 I do think the moment you pull the scout away and you notice that the enemy has no stables right. 10:14:51.280 --> 10:15:03.380 I do think that you need to just look for the proxy workshop and push a little bit faster because imagine if you did proxy workshop and just went with two rams and didn't focus on the castle already with ten world warriors and 10:15:03.380 --> 10:15:07.340 two Rams I think he could have cracked it because that siege workshop could have 10:15:07.340 --> 10:15:12.100 been late with the scouting that your thermal did so it's like the timing of 10:15:12.100 --> 10:15:15.380 that push was the main thing that I struggled with and I think that he 10:15:15.380 --> 10:15:19.100 could have gained more traction with the push if we just did it a little bit 10:15:19.100 --> 10:15:23.020 more elegantly. Yeah I think your idea of a hidden forward siege was was 10:15:23.020 --> 10:15:25.380 really smart I think that would have been super super helpful what he was 10:15:25.380 --> 10:15:27.860 doing here. Yeah I was going to say you know it could really work if you 10:15:27.860 --> 10:15:30.780 want to do a similar style all-in push but you also want to mix it up a 10:15:30.780 --> 10:15:32.740 a little bit to not make it too all in. 10:15:32.740 --> 10:15:34.500 You can start with a forward workshop right away, 10:15:34.500 --> 10:15:37.700 the Yamada style, like proxy villagers right away, 10:15:37.700 --> 10:15:39.180 see your workshop behind the base. 10:15:39.180 --> 10:15:41.180 You go two rams, like you said, Yamada, break the wall, 10:15:41.180 --> 10:15:42.820 send in some more radars, maybe a Maginot 10:15:42.820 --> 10:15:44.460 to break the wall and guarantee that. 10:15:44.460 --> 10:15:46.060 Send in the more radars, don't hit the castle. 10:15:46.060 --> 10:15:47.900 Just run around, loop it up. 10:15:47.900 --> 10:15:48.740 Yes, yes. 10:15:48.740 --> 10:15:50.460 Take out the houses, raid with the more radars. 10:15:50.460 --> 10:15:53.020 And then at the same time, also prepare the main push 10:15:53.020 --> 10:15:54.580 here from like a middle of the map, 10:15:54.580 --> 10:15:55.740 see your workshop, even from home, 10:15:55.740 --> 10:15:56.740 doesn't really matter. 10:15:56.740 --> 10:15:58.300 And you prepare that main push for the castle 10:15:58.300 --> 10:15:59.780 with like the five or six rams. 10:15:59.780 --> 10:16:01.920 So you distract them earlier with a small round push, 10:16:01.920 --> 10:16:03.260 and then you go in for the big play 10:16:03.260 --> 10:16:04.940 down the center with the two patards. 10:16:04.940 --> 10:16:06.740 That could be a better adaptation of the strategy, 10:16:06.740 --> 10:16:08.380 and I hope that maybe we'll see that 10:16:08.380 --> 10:16:10.180 for the upcoming matches. 10:16:10.180 --> 10:16:11.020 Could be an interesting way to special. 10:16:11.020 --> 10:16:13.900 The additional layer, especially when you run the Celts, 10:16:13.900 --> 10:16:17.500 it's like the TC fire against your Rams 10:16:17.500 --> 10:16:21.700 and your unique unit is there's no damage. 10:16:21.700 --> 10:16:22.760 There's no damage at all. 10:16:22.760 --> 10:16:24.780 The castle fire is way higher, 10:16:24.780 --> 10:16:27.620 and it just so much stuff to break. 10:16:27.620 --> 10:16:31.780 I think it would have been way better if you just came from a different angle to castle 10:16:31.780 --> 10:16:34.780 I think most of the time is a bait. It's a very premium building to break 10:16:34.900 --> 10:16:40.200 Yeah, it's like all or nothing if you go to the castle, which feels like might not be the best the best call 10:16:40.420 --> 10:16:43.700 We're almost guaranteed to see Arabia only for this matchup by the way 10:16:43.700 --> 10:16:47.660 Wagamama and your thermal both not the best arena players and they also hate playing the map 10:16:47.660 --> 10:16:52.140 So we might see an Arabia only matchup from now on which has been kind of rare by the way 10:16:52.140 --> 10:16:54.460 Most of you most players have been mixing in some arenas 10:16:54.460 --> 10:16:59.460 That's gonna be a welcome almost home map next like there to be a rabid but not a guarantee and 10:17:00.020 --> 10:17:04.400 We're gonna see if you can make his infantry work against you thermal which is gonna be as tough as tests yet 10:17:04.420 --> 10:17:09.140 He did beat sing sing earlier sing sing was a dark horse in the events while they've knocked him out here 10:17:09.140 --> 10:17:16.140 And we're just gonna see a rehost but yeah guaranteed guys grubby versus Knopf has been pushed to tomorrow at 13 GMT 10:17:16.260 --> 10:17:18.820 So keep that in mind that this is the last set of the day now 10:17:18.820 --> 10:17:20.260 Just to show you guys the bracket here 10:17:20.260 --> 10:17:26.260 So you have Grubbiknoff to tomorrow both of the Europeans both of them better better to play in the morning or the afternoon for them 10:17:26.260 --> 10:17:30.780 So it's gonna be pushed to tomorrow first set you throw them over swagger mama will be the last set of the day today 10:17:31.000 --> 10:17:33.160 So let's enjoy it while it lasts and have a good time 10:17:35.100 --> 10:17:39.260 Yes, sir, I gotta say I'm very excited to see waga on Arabia 10:17:39.260 --> 10:17:44.580 He's my favorite player of this tournament because he also plays aggressive infantry. Yeah, and him being able to beat singing with it 10:17:44.580 --> 10:17:47.940 It's just so crazy. I wouldn't expect it to be possible especially because I 10:17:47.940 --> 10:17:52.100 I mean, tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't one of the best counters that I'll play is like fast 10:17:52.100 --> 10:17:54.660 Cav Archer, and that's exactly what Singsing normally does? 10:17:54.660 --> 10:17:55.660 What is that about? 10:17:55.660 --> 10:17:57.060 No, no, it is true. 10:17:57.060 --> 10:18:01.260 Like, Cav Archer counters infantry a lot, but the thing is Singsing was dying in futile 10:18:01.260 --> 10:18:03.580 age, and the four Cav Arches were even a possibility. 10:18:03.580 --> 10:18:06.260 So that was the problem that he was having. 10:18:06.260 --> 10:18:09.340 But fast archers from Uthermal have been proven to kind of counter this infantry 10:18:09.340 --> 10:18:10.340 style. 10:18:10.340 --> 10:18:13.300 We saw it earlier in the Captain Lance matchup, I think at some point, Captain 10:18:13.300 --> 10:18:16.300 Lance might have tried some infantry, and the fast archers from Uthermal, 10:18:16.300 --> 10:18:18.620 the Scouts into archers was good enough to beat it. 10:18:18.620 --> 10:18:20.860 He's rocking the Malians, it's been a trusted pick 10:18:20.860 --> 10:18:22.620 alongside the Portuguese for Arabia. 10:18:22.620 --> 10:18:24.180 Wagga is going with the Romans. 10:18:24.180 --> 10:18:26.140 He's got two civilizations that he thrives on 10:18:26.140 --> 10:18:28.660 and he relies on heavily, the Romans and the Armenians. 10:18:28.660 --> 10:18:30.300 He's starting with the Romans. 10:18:30.300 --> 10:18:31.900 Let's get in a Dharma in the chat, by the way. 10:18:31.900 --> 10:18:34.180 I see Atroc participating in the chat as well. 10:18:34.180 --> 10:18:35.020 The Romans are there. 10:18:35.020 --> 10:18:35.860 I'm biased here. 10:18:35.860 --> 10:18:36.700 I think the Romans are so sick 10:18:36.700 --> 10:18:38.420 and I'm excited to see what he does with it. 10:18:38.420 --> 10:18:39.260 It was also, 10:18:39.260 --> 10:18:40.100 I feel like you can hold it. 10:18:40.100 --> 10:18:40.920 It's probably you thermal. 10:18:40.920 --> 10:18:44.740 He's so solid on fast archer range walling. 10:18:44.740 --> 10:18:45.820 Talk us through the strategy though. 10:18:45.820 --> 10:18:47.860 We've seen it a lot, but let's get your opinion on it 10:18:47.860 --> 10:18:49.540 because you've practiced a lot of Romans. 10:18:49.540 --> 10:18:50.900 I did a million hours of this. 10:18:50.900 --> 10:18:53.900 The big thing is you want to hit right, right, right 10:18:53.900 --> 10:18:56.940 on time, 19 pop with the four minute arms. 10:18:56.940 --> 10:18:58.020 You get four instead of three 10:18:58.020 --> 10:19:01.380 because of Romans 5% bonus. 10:19:01.380 --> 10:19:02.580 You get in with the upgrade, 10:19:02.580 --> 10:19:04.180 the armor upgrade that's doubled 10:19:04.180 --> 10:19:05.620 and TC's don't hurt you that much, 10:19:05.620 --> 10:19:06.460 Archers don't hurt you that much 10:19:06.460 --> 10:19:08.020 and you can just run around. 10:19:08.020 --> 10:19:10.100 And then the idea is you keep them so busy 10:19:10.100 --> 10:19:12.140 with your first four or maybe you add a few more 10:19:12.140 --> 10:19:13.780 but your few three minute arms, 10:19:13.780 --> 10:19:15.380 you can get up to castle behind that 10:19:15.380 --> 10:19:18.820 really good time and when you do that then you get the long swords in and then you're just 10:19:18.820 --> 10:19:22.660 swarming their base and it's over. That's like how it works in the dream situation. 10:19:22.660 --> 10:19:27.700 What really suck is when if they wall really tight early and they get archers early they can just 10:19:29.300 --> 10:19:32.820 prevent the damage get a nice ball of archers up and then suddenly you're not doing as much 10:19:32.820 --> 10:19:37.060 as you thought you would and you're you're you're push fizzles out. Yeah, no kind of depends 10:19:37.060 --> 10:19:40.580 on whether or not yeah. Actually I think you nailed it it's like you want to hit a little 10:19:40.580 --> 10:19:45.680 a little bit early, you know, keep your point behind those initial men arms and then kind 10:19:45.680 --> 10:19:50.780 of wall up and not overextend the feudal age and then come back and cast it with another 10:19:50.780 --> 10:19:54.880 force and another timing. Romans are very timing based with their men arms and infantry and 10:19:54.880 --> 10:19:58.740 they have a decent economy behind it. But Yamato, what do you make of this Roman men 10:19:58.740 --> 10:20:02.220 arms strike? You said earlier that you think maybe it could have served you right 10:20:02.220 --> 10:20:06.460 as well, moving away from that fast castle. What makes it so appealing to you as 10:20:06.460 --> 10:20:08.460 well as the player? 10:20:08.460 --> 10:20:14.380 I think it's just that the success rate has been very high this tournament. I think just putting on the early pressure 10:20:14.380 --> 10:20:20.000 I think you need to have like the exact right answers and the odds of it going wrong is extremely high 10:20:20.780 --> 10:20:23.900 If I just compare based on my little knowledge 10:20:23.900 --> 10:20:28.360 I have preferred that a lot more against the scouts because the scouts are just such 10:20:28.600 --> 10:20:31.660 Weak units you can like palisade against them wall against them 10:20:31.660 --> 10:20:36.900 And I think that the manatees do a lot more damage, especially with the upgrades you can get with Romans early 10:20:36.900 --> 10:20:41.900 Yeah, so by the way, just a little bit of context here for some people that might be a little new to Age of Empires. 10:20:41.900 --> 10:20:47.900 Scouts have the hand of a pro player, a lot more solid because scouts have that mobility factor. 10:20:47.900 --> 10:20:51.900 So they're not great in the head-on fight, but if you micro them to perfection or to near perfection, 10:20:51.900 --> 10:20:55.900 they can get a ton of value just running around your opponent's face and outmaneuvering your opponent. 10:20:55.900 --> 10:20:58.900 In the hands of these Intermediate players, which are looking for wrong, these players are really good, 10:20:58.900 --> 10:21:05.900 but sometimes you just need those raw stats, that head-on fight, because the mobility, it's nice, but it's not game-changing. 10:21:05.900 --> 10:21:10.200 So the Menor Arm tends to be a little bit stronger in these head-on-head fights. 10:21:10.200 --> 10:21:14.700 Just the raw stats, Menor Arms have a little bit more damage than the Scout Cavalry. 10:21:14.700 --> 10:21:16.500 There's another thing to keep in mind as well. 10:21:16.500 --> 10:21:19.400 The Menor Arms are actually recently buffed, like a year or so ago. 10:21:19.400 --> 10:21:21.600 There's a big patch that really buffed Infantry. 10:21:21.600 --> 10:21:24.700 So historically, Infantry have been really weak in the Age of Empires, 10:21:24.700 --> 10:21:26.600 but recently in the last year or so, 10:21:26.600 --> 10:21:29.700 they're actually the highest win rate strategies amongst most Elos, 10:21:29.700 --> 10:21:33.000 up until only that pro level where Infantry kind of falls off a little bit, 10:21:33.000 --> 10:21:37.720 due to quick walls and mobility being a little bit higher up there in terms of what the pros prefer. 10:21:37.720 --> 10:21:39.960 So just a little bit of information there might find interesting. 10:21:40.920 --> 10:21:43.400 Yeah, they can run away from marchers now. 10:21:43.400 --> 10:21:45.480 You're actually chasing them, they can run away and you're fine. 10:21:45.480 --> 10:21:47.480 That used to not be the case, so it's okay. 10:21:47.480 --> 10:21:48.040 Oh my god. 10:21:48.040 --> 10:21:48.280 Oh my god. 10:21:48.280 --> 10:21:48.840 Oh my god. 10:21:48.840 --> 10:21:48.920 Oh my god. 10:21:48.920 --> 10:21:49.400 Oh my god. 10:21:49.400 --> 10:21:50.440 Oh my god. 10:21:50.440 --> 10:21:51.000 Oh my god. 10:21:51.000 --> 10:21:51.480 Oh my god. 10:21:51.480 --> 10:21:51.960 Oh my god. 10:21:51.960 --> 10:21:53.720 Scouts are useless now, kiddie. 10:21:53.720 --> 10:21:53.800 Oh my god. 10:21:53.800 --> 10:21:53.880 Oh my god. 10:21:53.880 --> 10:21:54.360 Oh my god. 10:21:54.360 --> 10:21:56.360 Oh my god. 10:21:56.360 --> 10:21:57.240 Your matter is right. 10:21:57.240 --> 10:21:58.120 Scouts are terrible. 10:21:58.120 --> 10:21:58.600 Look at that. 10:21:58.600 --> 10:22:00.120 Waga doesn't care about his, but... 10:22:00.120 --> 10:22:04.020 But that really sucks, because you want your scout so... 10:22:04.020 --> 10:22:06.220 If he's doing the Minotaur, I don't even know if he is yet. 10:22:06.220 --> 10:22:06.720 He is. 10:22:06.720 --> 10:22:07.420 He is. 10:22:07.420 --> 10:22:08.120 Yeah, he is. 10:22:08.120 --> 10:22:11.220 You're gonna want that scout so bad. 10:22:11.220 --> 10:22:14.220 I really don't like that my man is doing two wood lines already. 10:22:14.220 --> 10:22:16.020 This is very early, because I don't think he... 10:22:16.020 --> 10:22:20.820 Especially with the map layout, how on earth is he going to palisade himself in on two wood lines? 10:22:20.820 --> 10:22:22.220 That four wood lines is really risky. 10:22:22.220 --> 10:22:24.620 Your spot on your map of that four wood lines is too risky. 10:22:24.620 --> 10:22:28.420 I don't mind the double lumber camp, but this wood line down here, way safer. 10:22:28.420 --> 10:22:32.220 Wall kind of kind of close out your base get that back gold taking this 10:22:33.460 --> 10:22:36.180 Yeah, you see the vision a two cuts and it would be perfect 10:22:36.180 --> 10:22:38.500 But now it's like he's got to defend the front of his base 10:22:38.500 --> 10:22:44.580 Men arms are coming in from Wagah and Wagah is the best player in this tournament at doing this Roman thing with respect to a truck 10:22:44.580 --> 10:22:47.140 You were very good as well. Fortunately. They didn't really see the potential there, but 10:22:49.540 --> 10:22:51.540 Fair so fair 10:22:51.900 --> 10:22:56.940 Guys we need 1000 subs more so me and a truck have a chance to redeem myself next year 10:22:58.420 --> 10:23:01.860 I'll get a nice one-year sleep! 10:23:01.860 --> 10:23:08.420 Subglove the screen guys, 900 left, it's a special deal today, we'll see if we fill that one out. 10:23:08.420 --> 10:23:12.220 Yamato, what makes you so sure you get another invite by the way, Yamato? 10:23:12.220 --> 10:23:14.820 After this performance, maybe I give you a spot to someone else. 10:23:14.820 --> 10:23:19.620 Oh, he's gonna be a common cast, common cast, it's a thing, it's a thing. 10:23:19.620 --> 10:23:22.620 You gotta tell me dance monkey, dance monkey. 10:23:22.620 --> 10:23:25.020 You're a good dancer, you're a good dancer. 10:23:25.020 --> 10:23:28.100 Five militia by the way on the field as you have little cosplays 10:23:28.100 --> 10:23:31.020 Okay, he's like five reshader boat five an armor solid 10:23:31.020 --> 10:23:32.500 He's been he's been known for this by the way 10:23:32.500 --> 10:23:36.980 Why go over like he's a heavy hand of the militia early game it comes in a little later 10:23:37.580 --> 10:23:43.420 But it's a little bit more powerful. Look at this. Are you thermal? Oh my god. Oh my god. He thinks he's well 10:23:45.420 --> 10:23:47.420 The whole 10:23:47.900 --> 10:23:50.940 No, there's not even a villager there bro. This is terrible. Oh 10:23:52.340 --> 10:23:53.700 disaster oh 10:23:53.700 --> 10:23:56.220 Oh, the kid back. Why are they going backwards? 10:23:57.340 --> 10:23:59.260 No, they're in there in. Wow. 10:23:59.660 --> 10:24:01.100 Do you know? Oh, my God. 10:24:01.100 --> 10:24:03.540 See the whole thing. No way. 10:24:04.140 --> 10:24:06.180 That's so unfortunate. 10:24:06.180 --> 10:24:07.700 But why is he going back? 10:24:07.820 --> 10:24:08.740 Go in, go in, go in. 10:24:08.740 --> 10:24:10.220 You thermal no quick walls. 10:24:10.220 --> 10:24:11.580 He's panicked. Oh, my God. 10:24:11.580 --> 10:24:12.700 He has to delete the house. 10:24:12.700 --> 10:24:14.580 He broke a house. 10:24:15.660 --> 10:24:17.340 Damn. Good place. 10:24:17.340 --> 10:24:18.940 Good place to be thermal often considered. 10:24:18.940 --> 10:24:20.740 Honestly, not that bad. 10:24:20.740 --> 10:24:21.620 Only one villager, 10:24:21.620 --> 10:24:23.140 but we talked about that forward line. 10:24:23.140 --> 10:24:27.300 Obviously it's a whole it's unfortunate, but still Wagga this is prime Wagga positioning 10:24:28.060 --> 10:24:32.260 Might lose a minute arm here. Nope. He groups up. I'll say no armor though. Go ahead a truck 10:24:32.260 --> 10:24:37.340 I'm a little nervous for you thermal doing scouts when I play this strategy. I'm so happy when they go scouts 10:24:37.340 --> 10:24:39.340 Yeah archers are way scarier 10:24:39.420 --> 10:24:44.620 They can always run they can always kite they can they can pick off minute arms the scouts just can't fight head-to-head 10:24:44.620 --> 10:24:46.820 So yeah, as long as you're safe back at home 10:24:47.940 --> 10:24:52.260 You know the scouts are almost like a waste of food is what I see it matters whenever I'm against this 10:24:52.260 --> 10:24:55.520 They just they usually die to the upgraded armor man arms, but 10:25:04.840 --> 10:25:08.440 We'll get Microsoft on it to fix it within two decades guys. Don't worry. Yes 10:25:09.600 --> 10:25:11.600 Quick fix 10:25:12.600 --> 10:25:17.460 Goes down there. Wow. There's no just could have all died right? They just they just they ore it their way 10:25:17.460 --> 10:25:19.460 I had to scare the scouts out 10:25:20.060 --> 10:25:22.660 Spear was coming out anyway, so he was obviously to be fine there 10:25:22.660 --> 10:25:25.780 But you throw more backs up with the scouts like you say though Hocky 10:25:25.780 --> 10:25:31.980 You need archers eventually like scouts cannot fight Roman men arms. Yeah, you saw Singsing try didn't really work out with dagger scouts 10:25:31.980 --> 10:25:35.100 It's not gonna work out with the Malians here, but you turn was on Archer slaughter 10:25:35.260 --> 10:25:38.860 It's not too bad. Yo, yo, does he have the fire but fire buff from the barracks? 10:25:39.260 --> 10:25:43.620 Does he do extra damage already? No Romans can't get that otherwise it'd be 10:25:43.620 --> 10:25:50.620 Oh really? Romans can't get that? I'm thinking about Armenians I guess. 10:25:50.620 --> 10:25:54.620 Yeah, Armenians do get it with the long swords, I believe. 10:25:54.620 --> 10:25:57.620 Where's the Romans going? 10:25:57.620 --> 10:26:01.620 Just a couple of archers here from the Malians, not too much. 10:26:01.620 --> 10:26:05.620 Just a question for you gents, why didn't he try harder to break the berry line? 10:26:05.620 --> 10:26:09.620 Because they don't have enough room to build palaces to block because of how tight it is. 10:26:09.620 --> 10:26:11.620 Why didn't he try to break the berry line? 10:26:11.620 --> 10:26:15.620 It's a good question actually. He could have tried. It would have been okay, but he wanted to loop around here 10:26:15.620 --> 10:26:19.620 because he might have thought that, okay, this could be open. He didn't know that it was walled. 10:26:19.620 --> 10:26:22.620 Now he's here. He sees it walled. He's like, okay, the berries were walled. The gold is walled. 10:26:22.620 --> 10:26:26.620 Let's just sit here and hit this. So it's because he thought he'd get something better, 10:26:26.620 --> 10:26:28.620 and that's why he looked for it. 10:26:28.620 --> 10:26:31.620 You throw was getting back to that woodland in the front, by the way, but very inefficient pathing. 10:26:31.620 --> 10:26:35.620 You gotta finish that wall because there's more Minerams coming from Waga here. 10:26:35.620 --> 10:26:39.620 But Waga's got a lot of idle TC behind this, and this is a prime target, though. 10:26:40.460 --> 10:26:45.280 Yeah, this is greedy if he had walled it would be awesome to get back on it, but now if they're 10:26:46.280 --> 10:26:52.520 He's kind of all yeah, this is and also repairing a wall that's being hit by five minute arms does cost you a lot of wood 10:26:52.520 --> 10:26:57.280 I don't know. I think it was dr. Agon star told me that but he's like it's actually pretty significant 10:26:57.520 --> 10:27:01.880 Yeah, you shouldn't feel so bad if they're doing a lot of repairing. It's actually kind of you're slowing down there 10:27:02.040 --> 10:27:04.040 They're wood by quite a bit 10:27:04.040 --> 10:27:06.040 Shadows the dogs are all up 10:27:06.560 --> 10:27:10.060 And then arms up here by wagon doesn't the best that anyone by the way 10:27:10.060 --> 10:27:12.160 He just puts up his troops. He's so good at this 10:27:12.160 --> 10:27:14.160 There might be it must be the Dota micro coming in handy 10:27:14.480 --> 10:27:17.880 He's walking around with this distraction on this side repairs on this side 10:27:17.880 --> 10:27:23.160 And he's forcing the quick walls here luckily though you thermal does get the quick walls and with only men arms 10:27:23.160 --> 10:27:26.240 You can't linger here. You might have to just go to the next but the bears are now exposed 10:27:26.320 --> 10:27:29.480 See if wagon can hit that he doesn't know about it. Of course no vision. Oh 10:27:31.080 --> 10:27:33.080 He's in here though. Oh wow 10:27:34.040 --> 10:27:36.040 We got in he got it 10:27:36.080 --> 10:27:38.080 There's a villager 10:27:39.400 --> 10:27:43.320 It's like when you show up at the club with six dudes, you know, you're with your homies and they're like yo 10:27:43.720 --> 10:27:45.720 They're never gonna let us in I do 10:27:46.960 --> 10:27:48.960 Then suddenly you know 10:27:55.040 --> 10:27:58.120 One billion, you know, it's not that bad, you know, it's not bad 10:27:58.120 --> 10:28:01.320 These two pressure here. Fletching coming in though for you, Thermal. 10:28:01.320 --> 10:28:03.420 It's going to be a little bit more damage coming out of the archers. 10:28:03.420 --> 10:28:07.420 And once Fletching comes in, you start to have to respect that as the Roman Claire. 10:28:07.420 --> 10:28:10.120 But from here, Romans like to play towards Castle Age. 10:28:10.120 --> 10:28:13.920 Marquette could come through soon. Maybe some more farms to these berry villagers. 10:28:13.920 --> 10:28:16.920 And Waga might be having his sights on Castle Age next. 10:28:18.920 --> 10:28:20.920 Yeah, I would love to see some more farms. Waga is... 10:28:20.920 --> 10:28:23.920 I mean, I would do the same, but he's got some idle villagers. 10:28:26.420 --> 10:28:27.420 And a little bit too much wood. 10:28:28.120 --> 10:28:30.720 I know whenever we practice it and you were yelling at me 10:28:30.720 --> 10:28:34.160 You're always screaming at me during this when your men and arms are attacking to be making forms 10:28:34.160 --> 10:28:36.160 Like you should have no wood floating 10:28:36.160 --> 10:28:38.160 Not sure I'm noticing, it's terrible. 10:28:38.160 --> 10:28:40.160 Yeah, I would be yelling at him too. 10:28:40.160 --> 10:28:42.160 Oh, he got in though! 10:28:42.160 --> 10:28:44.160 You can't fight, you can't fight! 10:28:44.160 --> 10:28:46.160 We're in the club! 10:28:46.160 --> 10:28:48.160 We're in the club! 10:28:48.160 --> 10:28:50.160 They keep ruining the vibe of every club they go to. 10:28:50.160 --> 10:28:52.160 Everyone's going out of the club now. 10:28:52.160 --> 10:28:54.160 It's terrible. 10:28:54.160 --> 10:28:56.160 He's fleeing this terrible club, dude. 10:28:56.160 --> 10:28:58.160 What is this violent dance? 10:29:00.160 --> 10:29:02.160 Oh my God, so many kills. 10:29:02.160 --> 10:29:04.160 This is huge. You're terrible going to that front. 10:29:04.160 --> 10:29:07.720 single-handedly potentially cost him this game he's still looking at the 10:29:07.720 --> 10:29:11.000 food count is so low for you thermal and he's got you know still have to deal 10:29:11.000 --> 10:29:14.080 with these archers are sorry these men arms taking up so much time is a little 10:29:14.080 --> 10:29:17.840 bit of a flank all it's a burger you matter it's a burger 10:29:17.840 --> 10:29:22.380 it's a burger oh yeah trapped in here with me I'm trapped in here with the evil 10:29:22.380 --> 10:29:28.200 good hiding though really good kind of prison this is the security trying to 10:29:28.200 --> 10:29:33.200 kick them out of the club little trap the thermal quick wall oh wait 10:29:33.200 --> 10:29:37.860 I lose that villager though. Dude, why just getting a lot of villagers and laughing at 10:29:37.860 --> 10:29:44.880 stays at is pretty good. No armor! We didn't have armor the whole time! It's not Roman 10:29:44.880 --> 10:29:47.480 infantry, it's just been reused in regular English. 10:29:47.480 --> 10:29:49.200 Oh my god! 10:29:49.200 --> 10:29:56.480 Oh my god, this would have been so much stronger! Dude! That's why they were dying so fast. 10:29:56.480 --> 10:29:59.240 That's what happens when you try to remember Loom. You know something else? 10:29:59.240 --> 10:30:03.000 Yeah, that's the whole point of the strategy. That's the entire reason you 10:30:05.360 --> 10:30:07.520 I was thinking man these Romans overrated 10:30:07.520 --> 10:30:11.200 That's what they scream when they attack with them 10:30:14.880 --> 10:30:16.720 Oh man 10:30:16.720 --> 10:30:22.480 Double equit that coming in I like to see the players having fun during it's a competitive maps kind of but it is of course a fun 10:30:22.480 --> 10:30:27.240 Streamer tournament at the end of the day here ten archers from youth thermal looking to push back now 10:30:27.240 --> 10:30:29.680 Now we have armor though. Now it's respectable. Look at this. 10:30:29.680 --> 10:30:33.480 Yeah, but we have this big of a mass of archers. They just kind of... 10:30:33.480 --> 10:30:34.980 Yeah, still good enough. 10:30:34.980 --> 10:30:35.980 They do this. 10:30:35.980 --> 10:30:39.380 Well, these swords need to raise their shields, bro. Like, these shields are hard. 10:30:39.380 --> 10:30:43.080 I put my block something. That's what we're doing. 10:30:43.080 --> 10:30:48.120 They never use the shield, bro! They just a problem. They're sticking their head on. 10:30:48.120 --> 10:30:50.120 Terrible. 10:30:50.120 --> 10:30:55.720 Wacker has a bit of a ability, by the way. Somehow, the auto-TC has been kind of off the charts for both players. 10:30:55.720 --> 10:31:00.560 Although actually you throw them only 30 seconds, but why just killed nine villagers who's gone a little bit of a field lead here 10:31:00.560 --> 10:31:04.920 He still continues to pressure with the Roman men arms finding his way and deep into this wood line here 10:31:06.800 --> 10:31:08.800 He is incredible 10:31:09.440 --> 10:31:14.440 He always splits up the yeah the men arms and he just makes you have to think in four different 10:31:14.440 --> 10:31:16.440 Yes, maybe I'm like I don't hear you this 10:31:17.200 --> 10:31:19.200 Here you hello. Hello 10:31:19.200 --> 10:31:22.240 We'll continue casting in the meantime. 10:31:22.240 --> 10:31:23.720 More farms being dropped for Waga. 10:31:23.720 --> 10:31:24.720 It doesn't need to mill. 10:31:24.720 --> 10:31:26.320 Farming out here is very, very suspicious. 10:31:26.320 --> 10:31:27.320 Farming is a very bad area. 10:31:27.320 --> 10:31:28.320 So this is the scariest spot. 10:31:28.320 --> 10:31:29.320 Yep. 10:31:29.320 --> 10:31:33.000 This is as the Romans is like, you finally, your push gets stopped, which happens every 10:31:33.000 --> 10:31:36.400 time with archers eventually, and then they come back to do some damage. 10:31:36.400 --> 10:31:40.440 And if you're not fully walled, or you don't have a tower or something, they start 10:31:40.440 --> 10:31:41.960 getting a bunch of counter damage. 10:31:41.960 --> 10:31:44.440 You don't get to castle on time, and everything gets thrown off. 10:31:44.440 --> 10:31:45.440 Yep. 10:31:45.440 --> 10:31:46.440 This is the scariest. 10:31:46.440 --> 10:31:48.000 If you can get to castle, you're still great. 10:31:48.000 --> 10:31:50.760 You have a nice build lead, he's got the tower, really smart. 10:31:50.760 --> 10:31:53.160 The tower on the gold is good, spot on though, Hrock. 10:31:53.160 --> 10:31:54.640 Is there a hole? Is there a hole? 10:31:54.640 --> 10:31:56.760 I think he's passed the hole back here. 10:31:56.760 --> 10:31:58.320 And you're spot on with that commentary. 10:31:58.320 --> 10:32:01.520 Like without the tower, there's really nothing stopping the archers from coming through. 10:32:01.520 --> 10:32:05.240 That tower position, it looks smart because it's in between the wood and the gold. 10:32:05.240 --> 10:32:08.600 And like, oh, in theory it protects both, but in practice it actually protects neither. 10:32:08.600 --> 10:32:11.560 So this tower is actually not great for Waga. 10:32:11.560 --> 10:32:13.480 I would have liked to have it just on the gold. 10:32:13.480 --> 10:32:15.840 Maybe there's some walls to work that as well, it could have been nice. 10:32:15.840 --> 10:32:18.960 That tower looks a lot better than it is so far you thermal 10:32:18.960 --> 10:32:23.440 It's just kind of hitting over the walls and harassing a little bit, but no crazy kills for him 10:32:23.440 --> 10:32:25.460 Why got up to cast this though decent timing from him? 10:32:26.600 --> 10:32:31.880 Okay, yeah, he's at the castle. He has enough men and arms to come maybe slow this but you don't want to lose them 10:32:31.960 --> 10:32:33.960 This is the scariest thing is when the archers 10:32:34.480 --> 10:32:36.320 If you can dance around that it's great 10:32:36.320 --> 10:32:40.480 But if they start killing men and arms then your your castle is pushes way way less scary 10:32:40.640 --> 10:32:43.360 You want all these guys to upgrade. I'm back. I'm back 10:32:43.360 --> 10:32:44.560 You're back, you're back, you're back. 10:32:44.560 --> 10:32:46.320 Keep going, Nacho, keep spitting, keep spitting. 10:32:46.320 --> 10:32:47.520 All right, I was just saying, I mean, 10:32:47.520 --> 10:32:48.360 keep the fire on him. 10:32:48.360 --> 10:32:51.400 Again, if you end up all my hours in the tournament, 10:32:51.400 --> 10:32:53.880 it was just this strategy for 95% of it, 10:32:53.880 --> 10:32:56.280 so I'm like very, it's what I've thought about 10:32:56.280 --> 10:32:59.600 and lost sleep over for a few weeks now. 10:33:00.720 --> 10:33:02.760 Yeah, I just, I'm excited to see. 10:33:02.760 --> 10:33:05.280 So far from my POV, Harry, tell me I'm wrong. 10:33:05.280 --> 10:33:06.560 He held that pretty well. 10:33:06.560 --> 10:33:08.800 He's getting a castle, unless he loses some bills, 10:33:08.800 --> 10:33:10.520 his next push is gonna be pretty scary. 10:33:10.520 --> 10:33:13.160 Like he's gonna hit with a lot of minute arms, 10:33:13.160 --> 10:33:18.480 How long swords with double armor pretty soon? Yeah in about like 90 seconds 10:33:18.480 --> 10:33:22.180 Yeah, the dead village is here over the wall. You're actually spot on a truck 10:33:22.180 --> 10:33:25.160 I love to tell you you're wrong when you are but you're right, bro 10:33:25.160 --> 10:33:29.200 And you're you've actually some great commentary here all those Roman hours not wasted and 10:33:29.640 --> 10:33:32.920 Night tournament quite but in the cast is booth. We still have some knowledge 10:33:34.160 --> 10:33:38.800 Of course, they're dead. What are these watches doing? They're like the workers of your third home 10:33:38.800 --> 10:33:42.960 Oh, no walk, but by the way the flag is hitting two spots. Look at this 10:33:43.600 --> 10:33:45.760 The archers in the front. Oh my god 10:33:45.760 --> 10:33:52.480 That's terrible for you thermal cuz you want those to be as you're doing. I got I'm being attacked by a moth. All right 10:33:52.480 --> 10:33:53.440 I'm fine 10:33:53.440 --> 10:33:59.720 Thanks, let me ask you something 30 second difference on castle. Yeah, will the upgrades hitting? 10:33:59.720 --> 10:34:05.240 Can that be the difference maker the damage this army is about to do a hundred percent timing is every 10:34:05.760 --> 10:34:07.760 moment, but 10:34:08.800 --> 10:34:11.120 He was gonna have before he's lost a bunch of archers 10:34:13.120 --> 10:34:18.560 Granted a truck a lot 20. Yeah, I know a lot. He does a lot. I just didn't notice. Yeah, you're right 10:34:18.560 --> 10:34:20.560 He can also get 10:34:22.560 --> 10:34:28.160 Faster infantry and long swords all hitting within the next 30 seconds and he's gonna just he's gonna flood 10:34:28.160 --> 10:34:31.200 This is the classic vlogger dude. I love 10:34:31.840 --> 10:34:36.240 This is workshop get in there bro get in there. You gotta start working already. Oh my god 10:34:38.800 --> 10:34:44.280 That's coming in now longswords will clear up these archers very very well played here from mr. Waga 10:34:44.280 --> 10:34:46.760 And we have the siege workshop here in the middle of the map 10:34:47.280 --> 10:34:51.720 Beautiful beautiful setup here Roman scorpions of course are 60% cheaper in terms of gold by the way 10:34:51.720 --> 10:34:57.720 So a great addition to the longswords got all the upgrades in terms of armor and now we have attack coming in for the romans 10:34:57.720 --> 10:35:02.160 He's kind of waiting and here we go thumb and coming in a premium upgrade for the costless 10:35:03.320 --> 10:35:07.120 The castle gap was in use at all he should have already lined up at the club 10:35:07.120 --> 10:35:11.400 We could have hit he could have done damage already hit to the wood line and distracted. Yeah 10:35:12.280 --> 10:35:14.560 What up or something? I mean there is 10:35:15.720 --> 10:35:18.040 27 crossbows of 22 longswords, so 10:35:21.000 --> 10:35:24.960 But you know what water is so good right when he does hit of splitting the 50 different spots 10:35:24.960 --> 10:35:29.400 Yeah, suddenly you get overwhelmed. I like this though. She looks fix for me thermals really good 10:35:31.120 --> 10:35:36.120 Really at least crossbows are gonna be brutal. Well, we have a double-seed workshop play double-seed workshop scorpions 10:35:37.120 --> 10:35:39.120 I love that 10:35:39.920 --> 10:35:42.360 Yeah, you get this crossbow on that hill that wood line is gone 10:35:48.520 --> 10:35:50.520 What long should going down 10:35:50.840 --> 10:35:55.920 Scorpions on the field scorpions the great choice here in addition to the long to the long story 10:35:55.920 --> 10:35:59.400 I want to see you thermos abandon this woodland by the way. I feel like we're listening 10:36:01.040 --> 10:36:04.400 Like we don't have to fight this except for the fact we've got a wood line here. It's crazy 10:36:04.400 --> 10:36:09.160 There's other wood on the map you thermal you there's not the only place to take it 10:36:09.600 --> 10:36:12.440 He likes the thought he likes the kiting bro. He loves the guy name 10:36:13.800 --> 10:36:15.800 What is this bike man doing a bro? 10:36:16.400 --> 10:36:18.400 not invited 10:36:18.520 --> 10:36:23.400 Dude good micro from the thermals fighting in two spots. He's like me perfectly knocks down a scorpion and Wagga 10:36:23.560 --> 10:36:26.960 Normally, he's the guy splitting and looping but you can almost kind of outpacing right now 10:36:29.440 --> 10:36:31.440 He's getting looped 10:36:31.440 --> 10:36:33.440 He's getting looped, bro 10:36:33.440 --> 10:36:39.000 How crazy would it be to take a long swing around and then to flank with the soldiers? 10:36:39.800 --> 10:36:41.800 It's okay. 10:36:41.800 --> 10:36:44.920 With a few, I think it's okay with a few, but I think you want because you have so much seeds 10:36:44.920 --> 10:36:49.560 I think you want to push with the bulk of your army down the center because you will break the crossbows eventually like you're doing well 10:36:50.080 --> 10:36:53.220 Eventually this micro is not gonna help forever for you thermal 10:36:56.640 --> 10:36:59.760 Man you thermal's doing shockingly well against 10:36:59.760 --> 10:37:01.760 Yeah, it works. 10:37:01.760 --> 10:37:03.760 Oh, the workers are exposed. 10:37:03.760 --> 10:37:04.760 Win the club! 10:37:04.760 --> 10:37:05.760 Oh, he's in! 10:37:05.760 --> 10:37:06.760 He's in! 10:37:06.760 --> 10:37:07.760 He's in the club! 10:37:07.760 --> 10:37:08.760 Not more friends! 10:37:08.760 --> 10:37:12.760 And the villagers don't have to abandon the woodline, bro. 10:37:12.760 --> 10:37:14.760 This woodline has cost us so much stress, honestly. 10:37:14.760 --> 10:37:15.760 You know what? 10:37:15.760 --> 10:37:19.760 It has lost so many villagers, taking some weird fights just to keep this woodline protected. 10:37:19.760 --> 10:37:20.760 But now Waga's in. 10:37:20.760 --> 10:37:21.760 Ville Count's actually even. 10:37:21.760 --> 10:37:22.760 Waga with more army. 10:37:22.760 --> 10:37:23.760 The Scorpions are pushing in. 10:37:23.760 --> 10:37:24.760 Waga takes the score lead. 10:37:24.760 --> 10:37:28.760 He's pulling up some momentum right now, trying to equalize this set. 10:37:28.760 --> 10:37:31.240 And now the scorcher in a nice spot 10:37:32.120 --> 10:37:36.820 Okay, don't hit this don't hit this lumber lumber camp. We got a loop. We got a loop 10:37:36.820 --> 10:37:39.140 I gotta get out there. You gotta be finding some villagers 10:37:40.760 --> 10:37:43.540 You thermals getting a lot of kills by the way, I don't think we're giving enough credit 10:37:43.540 --> 10:37:47.140 She's no for how many kills he's finding with these crossbows and 10:37:47.940 --> 10:37:52.320 That you know as strong as it looks it does fizzle out. Yeah, this long sort of 10:37:52.320 --> 10:37:58.400 a score play he just hit he spent so much time hitting that lumber cab loop my 10:37:58.400 --> 10:38:10.280 friend Lou he's huge huge huge he's distracting you throw him on the 10:38:10.280 --> 10:38:13.920 fronts you know was not watching he was distracting his microing look at the 10:38:13.920 --> 10:38:17.280 Stalker fight with it's good. It's great with the movie cross 10:38:19.920 --> 10:38:21.920 Oh my god, I think he 10:38:22.480 --> 10:38:27.600 Finds his goldland by the way if he finds his gold line, just keep looping baby keep looping 10:38:32.880 --> 10:38:35.520 Blinds gone though you thermalize to on wood 10:38:37.760 --> 10:38:40.640 He's cracked him the cross was have been really thin 10:38:40.640 --> 10:38:42.440 I think you can just go for this one right now. 10:38:42.440 --> 10:38:43.440 Freeze Corpets can dive. 10:38:43.440 --> 10:38:44.940 The talent center only has six villagers. 10:38:44.940 --> 10:38:46.140 This is looking really good for Wagga. 10:38:46.140 --> 10:38:47.540 You three will continue to kite. 10:38:47.540 --> 10:38:49.440 Beautiful play from him so far, but I mean, 10:38:49.440 --> 10:38:50.940 Wagga's got four villagers. 10:38:50.940 --> 10:38:52.340 Oh my God, Wagga. 10:38:52.340 --> 10:38:54.640 I did not think he was going to pull us one out. 10:38:54.640 --> 10:38:55.440 Oh, we're on what? 10:38:55.440 --> 10:38:56.440 Three bear reduction notes. 10:38:56.440 --> 10:38:58.440 He knows what week this is on now. 10:38:58.440 --> 10:38:58.940 He can loop. 10:38:58.940 --> 10:39:00.240 He can loop. 10:39:00.240 --> 10:39:01.240 He needs to find that gold. 10:39:01.240 --> 10:39:02.740 He's got 600 wood. 10:39:02.740 --> 10:39:05.140 He has so much wood floating. 10:39:05.140 --> 10:39:07.040 Over the gold. 10:39:07.040 --> 10:39:07.840 Don't hit the barrage. 10:39:07.840 --> 10:39:08.740 You've got to loop. 10:39:08.740 --> 10:39:09.240 Come on. 10:39:09.240 --> 10:39:10.240 Come on, come on now. 10:39:10.240 --> 10:39:15.560 It's not completely over 40 thermal, but look at this the Rams coming in he's gonna ram his ass 10:39:15.560 --> 10:39:19.000 It's the perfect follow-up here break the buildings go for the town center 10:39:21.480 --> 10:39:29.180 Yeah, but now there's so many scorpions 23 crossbows only will not break that they won't clear it 10:39:31.880 --> 10:39:35.880 Shovel himself in through Satan's ass crack here use the space here on the right 10:39:35.880 --> 10:39:42.440 you know like just use the space on the right like with your scorpions 10:39:42.440 --> 10:39:46.960 that's why the crossbow man's are doing makes them avoid the scorpion fight look 10:39:46.960 --> 10:39:50.000 he's trying to shovel himself in 10:39:50.560 --> 10:39:57.680 this perfect moon arc yeah but it's fear I think it's kind of a direct path 10:39:57.680 --> 10:40:01.520 to the town center we could just go for it it's not too bad yeah it's not working 10:40:01.520 --> 10:40:07.100 When the Red Lightning Club would have access to the Townsenders basically empty 10:40:08.120 --> 10:40:13.280 He almost can't get home with his crossbows because of the this because of Satan's hat crack as you call it 10:40:15.520 --> 10:40:17.520 And the town center goes down 10:40:17.840 --> 10:40:23.680 Ladies and gentlemen, Magus back to the crack. He goes through and now he thrills got no base 10:40:23.720 --> 10:40:28.740 There's no Townsenders. The villagers are exposed. The looping has begun. The Magus are all over him right now 10:40:28.740 --> 10:40:30.740 Now he's got him dead by right now. 10:40:30.740 --> 10:40:31.740 He's got him. 10:40:31.740 --> 10:40:32.740 Yep. 10:40:32.740 --> 10:40:33.740 There's one of these guys here. 10:40:33.740 --> 10:40:34.740 There's one of these guys here. 10:40:34.740 --> 10:40:35.740 Challenge Attack. 10:40:35.740 --> 10:40:36.740 Challenge Attack is okay actually from your thermal. 10:40:36.740 --> 10:40:37.740 It's not too bad. 10:40:37.740 --> 10:40:38.740 Oh wait. 10:40:38.740 --> 10:40:39.740 It's not good. 10:40:39.740 --> 10:40:40.740 Okay. 10:40:40.740 --> 10:40:42.740 But we still have 20-ville lead. 10:40:42.740 --> 10:40:43.740 Yeah. 10:40:43.740 --> 10:40:46.740 And no town center, so that's not going to get any closer. 10:40:46.740 --> 10:40:50.740 Wait, if you lose all the villagers, we can't play the game because we don't have 10:40:50.740 --> 10:40:51.740 a town center. 10:40:51.740 --> 10:40:53.740 He's down to 15 villagers. 10:40:53.740 --> 10:40:57.740 You guys are gold at some point here. 10:40:57.740 --> 10:41:01.900 Yo this counter-back is insane. Wagga has not spotted it. He's under the 10:41:01.900 --> 10:41:05.820 town center. He doesn't even care. He is killing every single villager with the 10:41:05.820 --> 10:41:11.300 crossbows. But I don't think it matters at this point. There's just not... 10:41:11.300 --> 10:41:16.420 I guess he could kite forever and if he killed every vill. If he just every 10:41:16.420 --> 10:41:22.220 villager and just every vill then there's every villager. That would be so crazy. 10:41:22.220 --> 10:41:27.680 He's not reacting. Wagga hasn't noticed. He has not garrisoned. A single garrison 10:41:27.680 --> 10:41:29.680 What ends this game completely right now? 10:41:29.680 --> 10:41:30.680 What is this? 10:41:30.680 --> 10:41:31.680 He has it done it. 10:41:31.680 --> 10:41:34.680 You're terrible and it's going to have no villagers and you don't have there. 10:41:34.680 --> 10:41:35.680 There's two left. 10:41:35.680 --> 10:41:36.680 It's just two. 10:41:36.680 --> 10:41:37.680 He kept playing. 10:41:37.680 --> 10:41:38.680 GG. 10:41:38.680 --> 10:41:39.680 Oh my god. 10:41:39.680 --> 10:41:40.680 One villager, three thermal. 10:41:40.680 --> 10:41:41.680 Wow. 10:41:41.680 --> 10:41:42.680 I got equalized. 10:41:42.680 --> 10:41:43.680 Equalizer. 10:41:43.680 --> 10:41:44.680 Damn. 10:41:44.680 --> 10:41:46.680 I don't have to say that wood line. 10:41:46.680 --> 10:41:48.680 The wood line he built. 10:41:48.680 --> 10:41:50.680 Honestly, that was mad talk. 10:41:50.680 --> 10:41:55.120 He could have done a nice double cut and protected the back and then suddenly all these 10:41:55.120 --> 10:41:59.720 Soldiers need to funnel through a TC and he could have been way more punished 10:42:00.720 --> 10:42:05.740 Armor upgrade. What's wrong with this wood line? It's primo bro. It's premium. We just go on the front 10:42:05.740 --> 10:42:07.740 We'll have to away. Yeah 10:42:08.240 --> 10:42:11.120 He wants to be brash bold out in front. Yeah 10:42:12.000 --> 10:42:15.200 So the solo cost him the game by the way like from the hole in the start 10:42:15.200 --> 10:42:18.580 Like the constant pressure and castage taking those weird fights trying to hold that position 10:42:18.580 --> 10:42:22.400 I said a huge credit to waga. He's taking a game out of everyone right now 10:42:22.400 --> 10:42:26.800 He's taking you through with the deep waters. This is fantastic from Wagga 1-1 in the set so far 10:42:26.800 --> 10:42:30.920 And it's unlikely we're gonna see arena from either player by the way, so you thermals home up next 10:42:30.920 --> 10:42:33.680 We're probably gonna get more rabies if you're enjoying this content 10:42:33.680 --> 10:42:37.240 It's about to be again, maybe three more games of this, which is fantastic 10:42:37.680 --> 10:42:42.280 But Arabia is one of the Armenians. Yeah, that's what we're gonna see for sure 10:42:42.560 --> 10:42:45.920 If it worked this game or work next game, I will say the coolest 10:42:46.560 --> 10:42:51.680 Like subtle change that Wagga did this game that I thought was really impressive was get the second forward Siege 10:42:52.400 --> 10:42:56.560 I think the extra Scorps and the Ram made all the difference just instead of a slow trickle 10:42:56.560 --> 10:43:00.720 It was a big wave not allowed to fight the crossbows. That was really smart. I mean, I would have done that 10:43:00.720 --> 10:43:03.680 So that was cool. I didn't like that he waited so much for the timing though 10:43:03.680 --> 10:43:07.120 Remember when he hit castles like 30 seconds faster like a minute faster or something 10:43:07.360 --> 10:43:09.280 And he just kind of waited in the middle for the siege workshops 10:43:09.280 --> 10:43:11.680 I don't think you have to do that you just hit with the launchers first 10:43:12.080 --> 10:43:14.400 Then set up your workshops and you should get the best of both worlds 10:43:14.400 --> 10:43:18.400 You get the initial attack with that massive siege follow-up would have been like the perfect strategy 10:43:18.400 --> 10:43:24.560 And something I'm noticing is like you need to like especially when I watch for example 10:43:24.560 --> 10:43:30.640 I watch your games at the rebel, you know, what pros are doing their units are always 10:43:30.640 --> 10:43:35.760 moving, always your units are always moving like they're never standing still everything 10:43:35.760 --> 10:43:40.240 is always moving even if you just hit to get some information on the army maybe they 10:43:40.240 --> 10:43:43.400 pulled their army to the left and then suddenly there's an opening to the right you need 10:43:43.400 --> 10:43:47.760 to fish for that information always and obviously I would I suck at the game that's 10:43:47.760 --> 10:43:51.540 already conclude that I'm just casting so I get to complain you know that's that's a 10:43:51.540 --> 10:43:55.000 privilege yeah I mean I still too and the problem with that is when you try to make 10:43:55.000 --> 10:43:59.280 your units move at our level you just run them into the town center like you don't 10:43:59.280 --> 10:44:03.240 look at them and they died so you try to yeah try to hold them back to keep them 10:44:03.240 --> 10:44:06.720 alive sometimes not moving is better than moving when you're not looking so 10:44:06.720 --> 10:44:10.680 yeah fair enough obviously the pros are you got eyes everywhere so it's kind 10:44:10.680 --> 10:44:14.200 of easier for us to keep track but you guys you're not playing a bad level 10:44:14.200 --> 10:44:18.400 The level has been solid, but it's still not perfect, but it's a good call. 10:44:18.400 --> 10:44:19.400 This is called pasta. 10:44:19.400 --> 10:44:21.160 Yeah, you like that one? 10:44:21.160 --> 10:44:23.720 You don't understand, WagaMama literally changed my life. 10:44:23.720 --> 10:44:27.600 The $2,000 I spent attending his bootcamp was an investment in a vision of myself as 10:44:27.600 --> 10:44:28.600 a better player. 10:44:28.600 --> 10:44:30.680 I'll never forget his parting words to me. 10:44:30.680 --> 10:44:31.680 Your five minutes are up. 10:44:31.680 --> 10:44:33.680 Please send the next guy in. 10:44:33.680 --> 10:44:34.680 Powerful stuff. 10:44:34.680 --> 10:44:38.600 The WagaMama infantry bootcamp. 10:44:38.600 --> 10:44:39.600 It's worth it. 10:44:39.600 --> 10:44:42.520 Only $2,000 and you two can beat you thermal with Romans. 10:44:42.520 --> 10:44:43.520 It's fantastic. 10:44:43.520 --> 10:44:49.760 incredible I think he's kind of undercutting my patreon though a little bit yeah I feel like 10:44:49.760 --> 10:44:58.720 there's competition just like that it costs more and gives less uh he's uh he's he's walking 10:44:58.720 --> 10:45:03.360 a lot of lost with infantry yet in this tournament or has it been literally undefeated I feel like 10:45:03.360 --> 10:45:08.000 he's undefeated with role that's so wild I don't know what more he's got like I don't know 10:45:08.000 --> 10:45:11.360 what he's got like he's got to play more than Armenian's Romans which he will if he wants 10:45:11.360 --> 10:45:15.920 someone to set into and two more. What else does Waga have? That's like top tier. 10:45:15.920 --> 10:45:19.360 I don't really know. He has a Japanese, a little Japanese that are 10:45:19.360 --> 10:45:25.360 memorize. Yeah, Ramirite. Ramirite, he lost Celts already. Like, well, what's another 10:45:25.360 --> 10:45:29.280 infantry line that you can... Vikings! Let's bring out the Vikings, dude. 10:45:29.280 --> 10:45:32.880 Vikings, shout out H.R.O.X. Wait, he doesn't look like one. Come on, now. 10:45:32.880 --> 10:45:36.880 I have to correct myself. He did lose with our minions against Captain Lance, 10:45:36.880 --> 10:45:40.960 though. Shout out to the chat for reminding me. So, he's not undefeated, quite 10:45:40.960 --> 10:45:45.780 undefeated but it's still pretty surprising me yeah it's been so good you know 10:45:45.780 --> 10:45:49.900 so someone just reminded me you know I don't know I don't know how your 10:45:49.900 --> 10:45:53.820 coaching sessions were at York but my first coaching session with Hera was 10:45:53.820 --> 10:45:58.340 him me walking me through the tutorial of the game that's like going to a 10:45:58.340 --> 10:46:03.020 nutritionist you spend 3,000 bucks to get a diet and he's telling me this is 10:46:03.020 --> 10:46:09.940 how you chew food this is what pizza the biggest waste of time for how it's 10:46:09.940 --> 10:46:15.220 getting through I'm here with the game and I have to play William Wallace campaign 10:46:17.220 --> 10:46:22.180 The thing is I was like the top of the ranks and you're like wait, what are we doing here? 10:46:22.180 --> 10:46:24.980 You had no idea you're installing the game getting the mods. I was like, okay 10:46:24.980 --> 10:46:28.820 Let's just go through the William Wallace tutorial. It's like so funny, bro 10:46:28.820 --> 10:46:30.820 I had no idea William Wallace tutorial 10:46:31.700 --> 10:46:33.700 You can't even 10:46:33.700 --> 10:46:35.700 Right click to move 10:46:37.700 --> 10:46:39.700 This is a villager 10:46:40.880 --> 10:46:42.880 My coaching with her is just him 10:46:43.620 --> 10:46:48.900 Relentlessly shit talking me non-stop while I'm trying to play just in my ear telling me how bad every single 10:46:51.940 --> 10:46:53.940 Yeah 10:46:55.380 --> 10:46:58.180 From his terrible coaching it's not terrible 10:47:01.700 --> 10:47:03.700 Arminians was a bunch of geese 10:47:03.700 --> 10:47:07.760 Oh, this is me the main civilizations by the way, I am a little extra harsh with you a truck 10:47:07.760 --> 10:47:13.000 Which is I see the potential that you can do and I just want to push you to live itself. It worked. It was really fun 10:47:13.000 --> 10:47:17.060 Honestly, I had a great tournament. I'm fortunate the way it happened for me, but literally had a such a good time 10:47:17.060 --> 10:47:19.020 I'm happy to be casting here. That's fantastic 10:47:19.020 --> 10:47:24.760 Oh, I like that out of it at the very least you got in the castor booth a lot of experience 10:47:24.760 --> 10:47:29.540 You know what you're talking about. It's great and we're seeing now our minions versus Portuguese Waga versus you thermal 10:47:29.540 --> 10:47:31.660 Take it away. Mr. H rock. What are we seeing here with their minions? 10:47:31.660 --> 10:47:35.540 I mean, our media is kind of similar to Romans, but it's correct me if I'm wrong, because I 10:47:35.540 --> 10:47:36.540 actually haven't played our media. 10:47:36.540 --> 10:47:37.540 I just thought about it. 10:47:37.540 --> 10:47:40.220 Yeah, but it just hits even earlier because they can get long swords in feudal. 10:47:40.220 --> 10:47:41.220 Yeah. 10:47:41.220 --> 10:47:44.900 It's the same kind of idea, long swords flooding your base, but they can get them 10:47:44.900 --> 10:47:48.020 even earlier and put on even more pressure. 10:47:48.020 --> 10:47:51.260 Did you slam double racks and don't go castle and you just commit? 10:47:51.260 --> 10:47:52.260 Is that the plan? 10:47:52.260 --> 10:47:53.260 You can. 10:47:53.260 --> 10:47:57.460 Or is it better to commit to castle and then to support it with siege? 10:47:57.460 --> 10:48:00.820 I still think you want to get castle eventually because you need that extra armor upgrade 10:48:00.820 --> 10:48:02.820 to actually be 10:48:03.660 --> 10:48:08.380 Diving finish the game. Yeah, you can't really diagram fleshing town center without 10:48:08.940 --> 10:48:12.300 Castle age armor upgrades. So yeah, I don't know 10:48:12.820 --> 10:48:17.860 How do copy bar states like like for me? I'm surprised that they are being hunted. Yeah 10:48:21.660 --> 10:48:23.780 I think we talked about it 10:48:23.780 --> 10:48:28.460 We talked about it in the chat the other day because I was also one of the same thing and the cow was saying meat is meat 10:48:28.460 --> 10:48:30.460 so apparently it's like 10:48:30.460 --> 10:48:33.100 Normal I don't know meat is meat is crazy 10:48:34.100 --> 10:48:36.100 the dogs and 10:48:36.340 --> 10:48:42.100 That's what the chat human meat. Are you cannibals chat? No, you can't say meat is meat 10:48:42.340 --> 10:48:47.220 Of course hair was wondering. Yeah, I was wondering the same. It's not about the food guys. Oh wonder what the capi borrow 10:48:47.220 --> 10:48:50.900 They're so cute. Her is hungry dude. Her when you get 15 capi bear 10:48:52.180 --> 10:48:55.900 They give them little scarves to you know, like the problem named them and shit like 10:48:56.620 --> 10:48:58.620 Yeah, they put colored scarves 10:49:00.460 --> 10:49:05.780 I think it's crazy that we can control them, you know, we can walk them into the TC is like it's crazy 10:49:05.780 --> 10:49:10.940 They can scout that what are they delivering the information with how are they telling you that like there's a wood line over there? 10:49:15.740 --> 10:49:22.260 Yeah, that's the age old question for age vampires, but yeah, it's just not everything's fully accurate here 10:49:22.500 --> 10:49:26.820 We're looking at happy or back to our base as well. So, you know, it's kind of a scary animal 10:49:26.820 --> 10:49:29.720 Let's see what Wagga can do in this early games on the Armenians. 10:49:29.720 --> 10:49:31.620 Oh, Idle TC, Idle TC. 10:49:31.620 --> 10:49:33.620 Idle TC, Idle TC. 10:49:33.620 --> 10:49:35.620 Oh, that was an early Idle TC. 10:49:35.620 --> 10:49:36.120 That's a lot. 10:49:36.120 --> 10:49:36.620 30 seconds. 10:49:36.620 --> 10:49:37.320 What's going on? 10:49:37.320 --> 10:49:39.020 Bro, that's a whole last billy. 10:49:39.020 --> 10:49:41.920 I think he might mill his chickens, which would be a mistake, by the way. 10:49:41.920 --> 10:49:43.120 He's still idling his town center. 10:49:43.120 --> 10:49:44.220 Wait, this is a disaster. 10:49:44.220 --> 10:49:45.420 This is crazy. 10:49:45.420 --> 10:49:46.120 What's going on? 10:49:46.120 --> 10:49:47.120 Yeah. 10:49:47.120 --> 10:49:47.920 Yeah. 10:49:47.920 --> 10:49:48.420 Wow. 10:49:48.420 --> 10:49:50.720 Two villagers worth of Idle TC for free. 10:49:50.720 --> 10:49:52.320 It's still, it's still. 10:49:52.320 --> 10:49:52.720 Okay. 10:49:52.720 --> 10:49:53.120 There we go. 10:49:53.120 --> 10:49:55.920 He's gonna mill the chickens. 10:49:55.920 --> 10:50:00.000 Why is this bad? The reason it's bad is because Armenians can make a mule car on their chickens 10:50:00.000 --> 10:50:06.120 They don't need to they don't need to mill it and the mule car could be used later on a lumber cap or on a mining camp or in replacing a 10:50:06.120 --> 10:50:10.440 Mining camp and so making a mill on the chickens is actually really bad practice with Armenians 10:50:10.440 --> 10:50:12.800 I told Wagga this I told Wagga not to do this but 10:50:13.800 --> 10:50:18.920 He hasn't listened disappointed coach Hera. Yeah, well be able to listen. That's why I spent my time with grubby 10:50:18.920 --> 10:50:20.920 That's all I'm saying. 10:50:23.180 --> 10:50:26.780 Why are two chickens there at the same time? Is that a good split here 2-2? 10:50:26.780 --> 10:50:31.200 Yeah, actually, it's correct because if you put all the 1-1, they're gonna be like dropping off too much 10:50:31.200 --> 10:50:35.520 It's not too efficient, but so far like the IOPC is really killing them in my opinion 10:50:36.280 --> 10:50:41.360 Kind of a bad start for Waga, but it is 1-1, even if this does fail due to like the IOPC 10:50:41.360 --> 10:50:45.840 You still got some chances and your thermal is on a stressed at Portuguese one of his best civilizations here 10:50:46.520 --> 10:50:52.340 Yeah, but you'd hate for a while that and our means is like maybe his trademark sip of all sims like the one he got 10:50:52.340 --> 10:50:56.120 The two hundred we got four hundred points of like a week way or something. Yeah, it's been crazy with it 10:50:56.120 --> 10:51:00.480 So it would be very unfortunate to lose it because you just forgot two bills. That's crazy 10:51:01.720 --> 10:51:04.800 You never know you put the pressure on and all of a sudden maybe the other guy starts idling 10:51:06.800 --> 10:51:08.200 Yeah, go ahead 10:51:08.200 --> 10:51:12.960 No, I just why are we putting so many people on chicken though? Why shouldn't we have more lumber at the station? 10:51:12.960 --> 10:51:18.960 The whole board everyone's eating chicken boys. This is the this is the origin story of KFC right here 10:51:18.960 --> 10:51:23.240 Both and why are we putting the everybody on chicken? It's a bit excessive. I'm not gonna lie 10:51:37.120 --> 10:51:41.800 Yeah, but you have to get food to get feudal first for you worry about would I think it's just too many on chicken 10:51:42.960 --> 10:51:44.960 No one would 10:51:44.960 --> 10:51:46.400 That carries would have been nice 10:51:46.400 --> 10:51:48.400 That gold close by is fine 10:51:48.400 --> 10:51:50.400 Also if this was a mule car he could just move it over 10:51:50.400 --> 10:51:53.520 So you guys have seen the vision now so that that mill is kind of wasted there but 10:51:54.400 --> 10:51:57.680 You know not the best archage from Waga but still he's gonna go to the metal arms 10:51:57.680 --> 10:51:59.280 You see how strong he's been with those 10:51:59.280 --> 10:52:03.360 I think the thermal though should adapt into this seeing the Armenians and just open archers 10:52:03.440 --> 10:52:05.920 We don't really need the scouts. That's kind of my take here 10:52:07.200 --> 10:52:10.000 Yeah, nice walls at the archers just do everything right 10:52:10.000 --> 10:52:12.240 He is getting feudal a full minute faster 10:52:12.240 --> 10:52:18.200 Which doesn't seem right. That does not seem like a correct way to for this to go, but 10:52:19.040 --> 10:52:20.640 Well, that's not what I want to mention earlier 10:52:20.640 --> 10:52:23.680 The reason why this is happening is that why good doesn't know he's got idle time 10:52:23.680 --> 10:52:25.200 So he thinks he's actually on time 10:52:25.200 --> 10:52:27.920 But he's actually a minute late because he's still trying to get the same amount of villagers 10:52:27.920 --> 10:52:29.920 But he's at that minute idle time 10:52:30.200 --> 10:52:34.280 The whole rush is delayed now by that 53 seconds. It's literally a direct consequence 10:52:35.040 --> 10:52:40.120 Where's your thermal scout and all of this like the your thermal scouts is idling somewhere. Where is it? 10:52:40.120 --> 10:52:45.800 That's a good question. Oh, I think it's Daisy. Yeah, he lost it. Yeah, well, I got killed. 10:52:45.800 --> 10:52:49.640 Damn. No, Chad was done. He did kill the cow. This guy, I think, died of the TC. 10:52:49.640 --> 10:52:54.520 Oh, yeah, right here. Oh, just blood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I hope I missed that. We're 10:52:54.520 --> 10:52:57.560 talking about the chickens probably, but yeah, that was context. 10:52:59.080 --> 10:53:03.480 I would read that. Is that meat, Chad? Meat is meat. That's what the chat said. 10:53:03.480 --> 10:53:07.080 I like this though. You throw it's going to go for a range opening. This is fantastic. 10:53:07.080 --> 10:53:12.800 Portuguese get a discount on all gold units and just opening archers with some walls. This feels like some crossword adaptation 10:53:12.800 --> 10:53:18.060 I love this is the good count. Yeah, I mean it long sorts and the double wood lines are way better this time 10:53:18.060 --> 10:53:20.060 Yeah, way better wood lines 10:53:21.480 --> 10:53:23.600 Thermal could use a mining cap there we go 10:53:24.100 --> 10:53:26.660 It's also a barriers on the front. It's a bit weird so like 10:53:27.220 --> 10:53:31.280 Although the initial setup is good. I feel like you could run some problems long term here 10:53:31.280 --> 10:53:34.240 Well, I got could probably just hit a house here not much more to be done 10:53:37.080 --> 10:53:42.440 You just need to start slamming farms in it got some farms going there's so many on lumber 10:53:43.320 --> 10:53:48.840 Second range. Whoa, this is new. That's different. That's crazy. Yeah, two Rangers is a lot of archers early 10:53:49.280 --> 10:53:54.520 Very few farms make sense against the minions. As you know, what's coming? I think it does. Yeah, it's a blind counter 10:53:54.520 --> 10:53:57.800 Kind of I mean, it's not that blind. He does see them now. You thermal doesn't know about the metal arms 10:53:57.800 --> 10:54:03.240 But the two Rangers is gonna give you enough archers to where you can start folding the infantry around and also counter attacking 10:54:03.240 --> 10:54:08.960 So I actually like it for your thermal and I feel like why got hasn't really dealt with two range archers before and Portuguese 10:54:08.960 --> 10:54:11.920 Remember that discount is huge. So those archers are pretty cheap for them 10:54:12.760 --> 10:54:17.320 I mean if you're a lot of the circles got to keep looping guys start punching something 10:54:18.080 --> 10:54:20.560 Don't you have to abandon shit if you see to like 10:54:21.400 --> 10:54:24.120 You can't really force long swords into this 10:54:25.680 --> 10:54:27.160 What would you do here? 10:54:27.160 --> 10:54:34.360 Talk about either you add a archery range and get scurms or you just loop around and get castle and then figure it out from there 10:54:34.360 --> 10:54:36.720 But like staying in feudal even if you get longswords. I 10:54:37.320 --> 10:54:41.440 Don't say how you break this if he's massing archers on a hill inside walls 10:54:42.800 --> 10:54:49.640 Yeah, there's no amount of feudal age units. It's gonna break that. Yeah, I agree with you a truck and I think 10:54:50.280 --> 10:54:54.560 He's gonna commit to the longswords and maybe it's okay to just pick up the longsword upgrade 10:54:54.560 --> 10:54:56.920 But adding in more would be very very risky 10:54:56.920 --> 10:55:02.360 I would like to see him get double BX and just kind of wall up and go towards the castle age 10:55:02.360 --> 10:55:07.320 Where you can get some seed job because with seeds you can break this but without seed you've got some really powerful infantry 10:55:07.320 --> 10:55:12.600 They're just infantry. They can't really range the villagers. They can't really reach the villagers. It's pretty bad situation here 10:55:14.360 --> 10:55:16.360 Well, I mean it's gonna get the fire 10:55:17.160 --> 10:55:19.160 They can get the horse out the fire 10:55:19.160 --> 10:55:26.040 Yeah, they get gambesons through the yeah, they do gambesons and castles extra armor 10:55:26.120 --> 10:55:30.980 You can get champions and castles for our minions with gambesons by the way very strong unit 10:55:34.040 --> 10:55:36.620 Loom is so broke that village it was winning. Yep 10:55:37.720 --> 10:55:39.400 But you turn wall 10:55:39.400 --> 10:55:43.520 I'd be careful. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Hey, what we say what no damage? 10:55:43.520 --> 10:55:47.600 What we're saying a truck. Oh my god, bro. Well, if he's gonna sin for 10:55:49.160 --> 10:55:55.080 It's you sir. Wait, there's always been a good strategy to thermal just put five units in front of his town center 10:55:55.080 --> 10:55:57.320 He will send villagers to you on repeat 10:55:57.760 --> 10:56:03.120 You don't have to come to him. That's the trick. It's the you thermal counter. He's got armor now 10:56:03.120 --> 10:56:09.100 It's Uber eats of villagers straight to your door. That's delicious to be fair a lot of idle PC 10:56:09.100 --> 10:56:12.040 Prologa like two minutes and a half. This is terrible 10:56:12.240 --> 10:56:17.280 It's idle to see that it's really counting out. I don't I don't know why why guys so much out TC 10:56:17.280 --> 10:56:19.280 Yeah, he hasn't even been pressured yet 10:56:20.760 --> 10:56:22.760 But 10:56:24.120 --> 10:56:30.620 Proxy racks commit arson start punching buildings. Oh, no, it's you the committee here is crazy by the way 10:56:30.620 --> 10:56:33.120 I can't come in after have so many 10:56:34.120 --> 10:56:38.280 We're cooked. No, no, it's fine. We're probably behind it. We didn't lose them 10:56:38.280 --> 10:56:41.780 So we didn't pay for them, which is kind of okay. It's still bad, but it's not terrible 10:56:41.780 --> 10:56:43.820 It's horrible, but not terrible as death note say 10:56:47.280 --> 10:56:53.520 He didn't get any upgrades. I mean, yeah, he's he isn't in a bad spot, but he's running around 10:56:55.040 --> 10:56:57.040 Trying to do the wider classic 10:56:57.840 --> 10:57:00.800 Castle yeah, he's getting different spots. It's pretty good 10:57:00.800 --> 10:57:05.540 But I mean look at your thermal it's just like artists positioned everywhere the more while you invest into this the worst 10:57:05.540 --> 10:57:08.780 The situation is and he keeps two in long sorts. I think yeah 10:57:08.780 --> 10:57:12.200 I think the second racks is getting the fire by the way shout out you matter. Oh 10:57:12.600 --> 10:57:14.600 Not that good. Yeah 10:57:14.600 --> 10:57:20.900 Now once you see them, this is my experience, when they have two separate groups of archers 10:57:20.900 --> 10:57:23.200 that they're comfortable moving around, give it up. 10:57:23.200 --> 10:57:24.200 That's right. 10:57:24.200 --> 10:57:28.180 When they still have one, you can kind of like da hit one side, go to the other side, 10:57:28.180 --> 10:57:29.180 hit one side. 10:57:29.180 --> 10:57:31.580 When they have two and they're big enough that you can't fight, it's like you're 10:57:31.580 --> 10:57:33.680 never ever ever breaking there. 10:57:33.680 --> 10:57:35.180 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 10:57:35.180 --> 10:57:38.180 Pirates coming into arson, fully teched. 10:57:38.180 --> 10:57:41.060 Now arson will give them extra damage against buildings. 10:57:41.060 --> 10:57:43.060 That's a plus two attack versus buildings. 10:57:43.060 --> 10:57:47.380 Chief tech to pick up as well. It's nice. But again, a lot of archers coming out and a truck 10:57:47.380 --> 10:57:50.740 We've been counter attacking from Zartras could be really scary. You talked about this last game 10:57:51.620 --> 10:57:56.420 Ridiculously scary. They just they walk towards your base something you realize that I'm the one on the back foot 10:57:56.420 --> 10:57:57.540 You don't have 10:57:57.540 --> 10:57:59.900 Yeah, you had a mass bill a tower or something 10:57:59.900 --> 10:58:05.140 But that means doing a good job right here like running these long swords around and keeping the archers busy is the dream 10:58:06.540 --> 10:58:09.480 They think they're chasing me. I mean, you don't want to lose any long swords, but 10:58:09.480 --> 10:58:14.660 They think they're chasing you, but really you're so happy those archers just not in your base killing your villagers 10:58:16.260 --> 10:58:20.100 He's kind of doing some dodged micro, which is kind of cool. I don't know if it's working 10:58:21.860 --> 10:58:24.900 Man these archers are real. Yeah, and remember it's 10:58:25.260 --> 10:58:30.540 These guys not as tankies the men are from Romans like they got boys people got less armors like the archers gonna melt through them 10:58:30.540 --> 10:58:33.300 You gotta continue running but running is not gonna help you win the game 10:58:33.300 --> 10:58:36.220 So your thermal is just kind of taking the map control now 10:58:36.220 --> 10:58:40.940 It's sort of the 20 arches 17 arches looking really good here a run by here completely missed this a run by 10:58:41.180 --> 10:58:43.180 But it doesn't really find much 10:58:43.460 --> 10:58:45.460 Not bad 10:58:45.500 --> 10:58:51.100 I mean equalized the Ville count which is pretty good for a three and a half mile TC four bills 10:58:51.100 --> 10:58:52.780 It's pretty good actually 10:58:52.780 --> 10:58:57.060 Yeah, I mean mints why go always finds a way to get value out of the signature 10:58:57.060 --> 10:58:59.300 Which is like so impressive given how bad that start with 10:58:59.740 --> 10:59:03.000 If he doesn't my name, he's okay 10:59:03.820 --> 10:59:05.820 But this is gonna be so scary 10:59:06.220 --> 10:59:08.220 Yeah 10:59:20.620 --> 10:59:24.460 He's the coolest guy in the town center he's got 15 he's got a little unbothered 10:59:26.860 --> 10:59:31.540 It's a kind of reasonable really solid, but yeah, they truck not feel this one 10:59:31.540 --> 10:59:34.460 If the infantry can't really fight the archers at all. I'm gonna see a tower on the wood 10:59:34.460 --> 10:59:38.960 I actually really like that because you can always move the whip to the other side. 10:59:38.960 --> 10:59:40.960 I feel like the gold is a little bit better. 10:59:40.960 --> 10:59:41.960 I don't know. 10:59:43.960 --> 10:59:44.960 Yeah. 10:59:44.960 --> 10:59:46.960 I mean maybe you wouldn't even see the gold. 10:59:46.960 --> 10:59:48.460 The thermals up the castle. 10:59:48.460 --> 10:59:49.960 This game is completely domination. 10:59:49.960 --> 10:59:51.960 Yeah, honestly he was so ready for it. 10:59:51.960 --> 10:59:52.960 Yeah. 10:59:52.960 --> 10:59:55.460 The gold with the block tree range is crazy. 10:59:55.460 --> 10:59:59.460 Yeah, I think what we're seeing here as well is that your thermal has a skill level now. 10:59:59.460 --> 11:00:01.960 To actually hard punish anyone who's being predictable. 11:00:01.960 --> 11:00:06.200 So to beat you thermal you gotta have like different strategies you can pull out 11:00:06.200 --> 11:00:10.480 You have to be able to adapt as well because he's in a hard counter you and if you can't make the adaptation like waga 11:00:10.680 --> 11:00:15.120 Not a one trick but a little kind of one-dimensional in his gameplay and get saved on the villager 11:00:15.400 --> 11:00:18.280 It's getting hard punished by this level that you thermals bring into the table 11:00:18.280 --> 11:00:22.640 Which is pretty heartbreaking for our wagas our minions, but of course you still has a chance in the set 11:00:23.640 --> 11:00:29.680 You thermal scary man. He looks locked in he looks like he's on a death rampage after losing in winners 11:00:29.680 --> 11:00:31.240 I think he's he's gonna 11:00:31.240 --> 11:00:34.280 Try to rip through the lower bracket. He just seems 11:00:35.920 --> 11:00:37.920 Like a terminator 11:00:37.920 --> 11:00:41.900 Hey thermal looping around with two groups of archers. He's doing a really good job so far 11:00:41.900 --> 11:00:45.840 I'm fortunate walking to run why I was trying to survive if it's still few overs feudal 11:00:45.840 --> 11:00:50.800 It's playable, but as soon as you thermals cast it in 45 seconds. It's completely completely over like there's literally no chance 11:00:50.800 --> 11:00:57.440 You're holding crossbows. He's just probably gonna come next and dude. This is nasty. Nothing's working all the villagers on strike 11:00:57.440 --> 11:01:01.120 He's homeless. He's on welfare right now. They're going bro. They're immigrating 11:01:03.680 --> 11:01:05.720 Going to the next game boys Gigi the chat 11:01:06.920 --> 11:01:10.060 Takes the way that was a clinical take down that strategy 11:01:10.060 --> 11:01:16.640 That's been like such a strong strategy and you thermal showed exactly how to stop it. Yeah, basically our gap 11:01:16.640 --> 11:01:22.920 I tell you basically our gap very well-placed palisades and that triangle that shape was just amazing 11:01:22.920 --> 11:01:26.500 Oh, look about just a funnel through the DC. It's really good 11:01:26.500 --> 11:01:31.260 By the way, you can also smartly give up the berries by the way, which for Portuguese that's a hard call to make 11:01:31.780 --> 11:01:37.220 Because they get a berry bonus. They if they take the berries they get a little bit of wood as well 11:01:37.220 --> 11:01:40.620 So berries it's a hard call to make but I think it was the smart call to make 11:01:41.580 --> 11:01:44.020 It's just no risk. Just not gonna let you take 11:01:44.740 --> 11:01:50.400 Villager damage by the way, I'm hearing from the chat that they want your motto to be invited to the garrison 11:01:50.400 --> 11:01:53.840 A-Truck is going to be casting at the Garrison. 11:01:53.840 --> 11:01:58.240 What the Garrison is, guys, the Garrison 2 is coming up this November in 2026. 11:01:58.240 --> 11:02:00.240 My team vitality is involved. 11:02:00.240 --> 11:02:02.240 Let me show it on the screen, actually. 11:02:02.240 --> 11:02:04.640 Maybe people on the chat will be able to take a picture. 11:02:04.640 --> 11:02:06.400 Let me do the hosting of the Alice Desk. 11:02:06.400 --> 11:02:10.560 You know, I have a friend who knows a guy who knows a guy 11:02:10.560 --> 11:02:13.120 that was supposed to connect me with the guys of this event. 11:02:13.120 --> 11:02:15.360 But I have a better connection right here. 11:02:15.360 --> 11:02:16.000 Okay, you're battle. 11:02:16.000 --> 11:02:17.040 I'm asking you, I'm too slow, man. 11:02:17.040 --> 11:02:19.040 We could get you in, but let me tell the chat what it is. 11:02:19.040 --> 11:02:24.120 It's a tournament in November this year in Hamburg. It's a land event all the best players in the world will be there 11:02:24.120 --> 11:02:26.360 It's in an S tier land event 1v1 tournament 11:02:26.360 --> 11:02:32.020 They're selling tickets right now if you guys want to go to being eastwards comm. They're hosting it alongside vitality my team 11:02:32.020 --> 11:02:35.440 There's a thousand tickets available. Some of them have already been sold 11:02:35.440 --> 11:02:39.080 There's only a few hundred left you want to go ahead and pick them up you can find them here 11:02:39.080 --> 11:02:43.240 It's gonna be a really nice event a trucks casting it. I'm gonna be there your motto might be the host 11:02:43.240 --> 11:02:47.600 I'll let you guys know I'm gonna ask him out. I'll ask for you if the space to get you in castor or host 11:02:47.600 --> 11:02:52.720 Okay, I'm out of yeah, let me do interviews to hosting. Let me do casting 11:02:53.040 --> 11:02:56.480 Okay castors you probably have some go to you know, you got Daniela in there 11:02:56.480 --> 11:03:01.100 You know, you got the goats already like let me do something well without the works with my skills 11:03:01.100 --> 11:03:05.560 So, you know, I wouldn't want to take anything to the goat that they we castors, you know 11:03:05.560 --> 11:03:07.560 Because it's a serious tournament, you know 11:03:08.560 --> 11:03:12.280 Hosting the interview when all right. We'll see you mine guys 11:03:12.280 --> 11:03:14.600 You want to pick up the tickets definitely pick them up right now 11:03:14.600 --> 11:03:19.040 It's gonna be an event later this year 25th to 29th of November in Hamburg pick up your tickets 11:03:19.040 --> 11:03:21.520 It'd be a nice treatment theater check it out and support the events 11:03:22.120 --> 11:03:28.800 Back to our set though here. We have Wagamama versus you thermal giving up for the game number four to me wagas home map 11:03:28.800 --> 11:03:31.640 We see the the cams and Wagas looks locked in by the way 11:03:31.640 --> 11:03:34.380 It's do or die for Wagas. He loses this game is out of the tournament 11:03:34.380 --> 11:03:38.400 So he's got a lock-in, but what does he go for a truck? He's used Romans and I don't know 11:03:38.400 --> 11:03:40.400 I was gonna ask you that I don't know what 11:03:40.400 --> 11:03:44.260 Ramurai is coming Ramurai Ramurai 11:03:44.780 --> 11:03:51.740 Could be as well to be privets to arena. He could just pivot to arena. Oh, that's that seems to be like the desperate move 11:03:51.740 --> 11:03:56.080 Right you pivot to arena. Yeah, you throw my hate Serena. You throw my hate Serena by the way 11:03:56.080 --> 11:03:58.720 So like if that's anything arena pretty good 11:03:59.160 --> 11:04:03.320 It really stresses him out arena. So that I would go there just for the mental boom 11:04:03.880 --> 11:04:09.080 But it seems like walking as a Arabia player. I don't know that he would want to change 11:04:10.400 --> 11:04:14.400 He did a really nice strategy against Singsing though. He went on red instead of Fortress, obviously not Arena, but 11:04:15.120 --> 11:04:19.920 He went for the Longbowman and got a really nice late game army composition with Longbowman Halb. 11:04:19.920 --> 11:04:24.880 It looked beautiful. You could in theory do that on Arena. You could just go Britain's, boom to Longbowman. 11:04:24.880 --> 11:04:29.760 So that's like kind of part of his arsenal. Just gonna quickly show this on the screen here. So 11:04:30.800 --> 11:04:34.480 Right now here guys, we have Grubby versus Knoth, the second loser bracket set for today 11:04:35.280 --> 11:04:39.440 Or the last loser bracket set for today. This will not be played today. This will be played tomorrow 11:04:39.440 --> 11:04:43.840 As the first set of the day, okay, so keep this in mind that gravity versus Knopf could happen tomorrow 11:04:43.840 --> 11:04:45.840 We'll keep you guys updated on that 11:04:50.120 --> 11:04:53.420 So this is the potential last game of the day here, it's certainly the last set 11:04:53.420 --> 11:04:58.640 So it's one game or two more games for the day. Let's see if if mr. 11:04:58.640 --> 11:05:01.320 Wagga has it in them to take you to them on a match point 11:05:01.320 --> 11:05:17.280 I'm really impressed that Grubby has not asked for any help since the tournament started. 11:05:17.280 --> 11:05:20.720 I accept him to be in my ear every night like, hey, what do I do here? 11:05:20.720 --> 11:05:25.280 But he actually hasn't asked me anything, so that's what it is. 11:05:25.280 --> 11:05:26.280 He's moved on. 11:05:26.280 --> 11:05:27.280 He's found other coaches. 11:05:27.280 --> 11:05:28.280 Yeah. 11:05:28.280 --> 11:05:34.200 I got busy and you just needed that concert attention. Shout out to all the coaches, by the way for everyone who played in this tournament 11:05:34.200 --> 11:05:40.360 It's been very very obvious how extremely helpful they've all been. I think we all would be way way worse without I mean 11:05:41.120 --> 11:05:45.640 They they've brought builds. They've walked the replays. They've done so much nice stuff off. Yeah 11:05:46.440 --> 11:05:53.880 By the way, I'm telling you that there's some niche things that I for some reason know a little bit better than some of these guys that 11:05:53.880 --> 11:05:55.740 that have 1,000 Elon more than me. 11:05:55.740 --> 11:05:58.980 As good as RedForce gave me the secret source details, 11:05:58.980 --> 11:06:01.340 shout out to him, yeah? 11:06:01.340 --> 11:06:02.680 Yeah, by the way, I'm just saying. 11:06:02.680 --> 11:06:07.020 And the soft res and the Palisade walls for all that shit. 11:06:07.020 --> 11:06:07.860 Yeah, when you say cuts, 11:06:07.860 --> 11:06:09.300 I know you've been studying with RedForce. 11:06:09.300 --> 11:06:11.260 That's exactly how he's done it. 11:06:11.260 --> 11:06:13.980 Yeah, I just want to ask RedForce for help, go for it. 11:06:13.980 --> 11:06:15.260 Yeah, you're coming off three times. 11:06:15.260 --> 11:06:16.100 Thank you so much. 11:06:16.100 --> 11:06:17.580 Just want to say, let the chat know 11:06:17.580 --> 11:06:19.460 that the coaches will be getting compensated. 11:06:19.460 --> 11:06:20.620 I don't have budget for Microsoft. 11:06:20.620 --> 11:06:22.220 I'm using the donations from the chat 11:06:22.220 --> 11:06:23.700 to compensate the coaches afterwards. 11:06:23.700 --> 11:06:27.040 like a huge head to the coaches, they're not going to get paid a full salary obviously, 11:06:27.040 --> 11:06:30.560 but it's limited. But I'm going to be making sure that the people put in the way, the work 11:06:30.560 --> 11:06:37.320 will get paid something at least. So just quickly mentioned that in the boss coach. 11:06:37.320 --> 11:06:41.680 So I take a large percentage. Yeah, I'm thinking grubby grubby's money. That's for sure. 11:06:41.680 --> 11:06:46.380 Because it's got all day. I'm good. I'm good. I got the viewers here. We're good. 11:06:46.380 --> 11:06:51.640 The coaches, I didn't play Mullians already. Am I crazy? Nope. You are crazy. That 11:06:51.640 --> 11:06:58.520 you thermal that played the Malians. So now it's Wagas time. Okay. I thought it was like fearless. 11:07:00.280 --> 11:07:04.600 Yeah, it's not like fearless from League of Legends exactly here. That is a good drafting system, 11:07:04.600 --> 11:07:09.960 but here in Age of Empires, 10 pick no repeat for each player that usually happens. At least for 11:07:09.960 --> 11:07:14.600 now, ejecting dominance at 10 gifted in the chat. I really appreciate that bro. Fourth game here, 11:07:14.600 --> 11:07:19.080 Malians for Wagas. He's likely to play the more infantry style. Hrock, you talked about the 11:07:19.080 --> 11:07:21.560 the malians earlier I think you consider them for yourself with extra pure 11:07:21.560 --> 11:07:24.760 summer what do you think about the malians and I did use the malians 11:07:24.760 --> 11:07:30.840 against you thermal I tried to do a all-in forward double archery range 11:07:30.840 --> 11:07:34.440 omega cheese but I think grubby tried later in the tournament as well 11:07:34.440 --> 11:07:38.120 and it uh well by the way you thermal in chat saying he's never played my 11:07:38.120 --> 11:07:41.720 before but YOLO he's gonna give it a shot 11:07:41.720 --> 11:07:45.560 that's the hilarious by the way uh this is the strategy I mean the one that 11:07:45.560 --> 11:07:48.920 I saw Viper do it I just saw a video of Viper doing it it looks 11:07:48.920 --> 11:07:55.240 Super super busted and I thought I'd try it didn't work out for me, but I don't know if he's gonna do that 11:07:55.240 --> 11:07:57.240 I give it to play a standard game 11:07:57.320 --> 11:08:01.760 Right, I just say a truck a thousand hours of air coaching out the window one Viper video 11:08:01.760 --> 11:08:04.680 And you just use that strategy and lose of it. My goodness, bro 11:08:04.680 --> 11:08:09.720 I have some in my head. I was like you have to have cool pocket builds in this tournament 11:08:09.720 --> 11:08:13.060 If you just do you think people know you for that you practice on ladder, you're gonna get cooked 11:08:13.060 --> 11:08:15.060 That's in my mind. That's what it was 11:08:18.920 --> 11:08:23.360 You tell grubby you and tell grubby anything if you asked you you tell exactly what my strats are 11:08:26.480 --> 11:08:28.480 You ought to come in here 11:08:28.960 --> 11:08:33.900 Just with the game. You're just Molly and I'm just reading up the bonuses. It's another infantry 11:08:34.320 --> 11:08:38.520 Barak units having like the the pierce armor from the get go. It's kind of nice 11:08:39.840 --> 11:08:44.680 Buildings cost less wood as well. I think waga mama's is gonna do the same mold 11:08:44.680 --> 11:08:46.680 He's gonna be attacking me instantly. 11:08:47.800 --> 11:08:52.480 By the way, by the way, Yutrimul didn't pick up a loom with Mayans. 11:08:52.480 --> 11:08:54.760 He was idle in his town center for 24 seconds. 11:08:54.760 --> 11:08:56.160 You're supposed to pick up a loom. 11:08:56.160 --> 11:08:57.920 That just shows that he's actually not joking. 11:08:57.920 --> 11:08:59.560 He's first time in Mayans. 11:08:59.560 --> 11:09:00.320 He's got no clue. 11:09:00.320 --> 11:09:02.240 You know that on first game with Mayans. 11:09:02.240 --> 11:09:04.160 So that's hilarious. 11:09:04.160 --> 11:09:04.720 That's so beautiful. 11:09:04.720 --> 11:09:07.040 How does elephant taste? 11:09:07.040 --> 11:09:08.280 It tastes like for an animal. 11:09:08.280 --> 11:09:09.240 That's not an animal. 11:09:09.240 --> 11:09:10.080 It looks good. 11:09:10.080 --> 11:09:10.840 It looks good. 11:09:10.840 --> 11:09:11.640 It looks like it's just like... 11:09:11.640 --> 11:09:12.400 Does it look good? 11:09:12.400 --> 11:09:13.400 Yeah, it looks tasty. 11:09:13.400 --> 11:09:14.360 Definitely. 11:09:14.360 --> 11:09:19.800 like it's it's a it's a fat animal 11:09:20.120 --> 11:09:23.480 it's a great burger you wouldn't have an elephant burger you wouldn't 11:09:23.480 --> 11:09:29.320 enjoy it so much it's not a safari cow yeah it's exactly it's a big 11:09:29.320 --> 11:09:32.600 safari cow it's got to be tasty as hell 11:09:32.600 --> 11:09:35.640 he thermals across the map saying he can't lay my team at ethical but he's 11:09:35.640 --> 11:09:39.880 looking for something he missed those uh two goats just barely 11:09:39.880 --> 11:09:43.320 uh but here we go wagga under the town center by the way maybe getting a 11:09:43.320 --> 11:09:45.320 a little too close. Oh, dodge. 11:09:45.320 --> 11:09:47.320 And a good dodge though. 11:09:47.320 --> 11:09:58.320 By the way, you can have a lot of scout last game and still won the game, so keep that in mind here that Waga, you know, he needs to show us something here that's going to win the game. 11:09:58.320 --> 11:10:07.320 Malians are good though with the tanky infantry, very similar to the Romans, and he did snag the win with the Romans, so we'll see if maybe Malians can bring something similar to the table. 11:10:07.320 --> 11:10:13.820 Malian's could kind of counter mines in some way, mine is like a very archer-sive, no cavalry, you have some eagles 11:10:13.820 --> 11:10:15.380 But they kind of died to long swords as well 11:10:15.380 --> 11:10:18.540 So like mine's here, it's good for the archers or they're gonna get cheaper archers 11:10:18.580 --> 11:10:22.100 But they could play into the strengths of Malian's especially the way Wagga likes to play them 11:10:23.860 --> 11:10:29.240 Then I assume from Uthermo's POV he's gonna do exactly what he did last game. It worked out so well 11:10:30.220 --> 11:10:35.000 Wagga hasn't shown he can handle that or like has a plan for it with his normal play style 11:10:35.000 --> 11:10:41.200 I don't know why you wouldn't just double archer same thing. Yep make him prove that he can handle it 11:10:41.280 --> 11:10:44.560 Yeah, I kind of agree with that just do the same thing that worked last game 11:10:45.040 --> 11:10:46.760 You have a decent map to wall here 11:10:46.760 --> 11:10:52.060 You can just wall a little bit of an arc to keep your gold safe little wall here and they just have to defend the front of your base 11:10:52.060 --> 11:10:53.880 I mean there's been a bit a little bit nasty 11:10:53.880 --> 11:10:57.220 But we saw last game we can just kind of give those up and you'll be fine for the most part 11:10:57.220 --> 11:11:01.180 I hope to see some adaptations from Wagga if we do see the two ranges out of your thermal 11:11:01.180 --> 11:11:04.400 Maybe like stop making men arms and feudal and just play towards the passenger castle edge 11:11:04.400 --> 11:11:07.920 Obviously, we're getting ahead of ourselves now. Let's see how it develops into this early game 11:11:08.040 --> 11:11:12.700 No auto TC from Wagga this time the only six seconds way better than last game very good 11:11:13.440 --> 11:11:15.440 I would look like a mama 11:11:15.760 --> 11:11:22.360 Just I just want to see him to back his barrack push with just an archery range and just start making scums 11:11:22.360 --> 11:11:26.600 Just just do do the next step in this rock paper scissor game. I 11:11:27.680 --> 11:11:30.320 Love that your motto. That's actually really smart 11:11:30.320 --> 11:11:35.720 That's how the meta shapes internments by the way like one guy's going infantry other guy hard counters him two inch archers 11:11:35.720 --> 11:11:36.760 Then this guy's like wait 11:11:36.760 --> 11:11:38.460 I just skip the infantry display 11:11:38.460 --> 11:11:42.240 Scriversers and so it's skirmishers against a guy on two range archers and you're just laughing at him, right? 11:11:42.240 --> 11:11:45.560 So that's a great adaptation and a great call from you Meadow 11:11:45.560 --> 11:11:47.920 I don't know flag is the kind of guy to do that 11:11:47.920 --> 11:11:51.800 He seems to be very disciplined always going for what he practiced and it's gonna be unfortunately 11:11:52.240 --> 11:11:56.920 For any adapters in the chat. We're gonna have just militia coming up for Laga. He's sticking to the game plan 11:12:00.320 --> 11:12:02.320 Yeah 11:12:04.640 --> 11:12:10.160 Because this is a nice fast feudal he's getting the three are gonna hit on a good timing if he does it right yeah 11:12:10.160 --> 11:12:15.000 And that I'm telling I'm wrong, but isn't that the first three kind of never wrong. It's never bad 11:12:15.160 --> 11:12:18.360 Yeah, you can always yeah, you always put pressure make them wall. I 11:12:18.920 --> 11:12:24.880 Agree that you can afford three for free basically like you have the X the excess meat in the stockpile 11:12:25.040 --> 11:12:27.520 Three is fine, but no it's a full commitment again 11:12:27.520 --> 11:12:31.740 So what you're saying is correct. You've got three men of arms that are switched to a range 11:12:31.900 --> 11:12:37.380 But when you go for like the five militia into the men of arms into the blacksmith, this is a full committal from waga 11:12:37.380 --> 11:12:40.920 He's going to do the exact same thing he's been doing and you thermal man 11:12:40.920 --> 11:12:46.200 He's already on the gold a little bit late than a pretty suspicious mining camp. He's he's constantly walling dude 11:12:46.200 --> 11:12:49.060 He's having trouble walling this by the way. He's walled it rewalled it 11:12:49.060 --> 11:12:52.340 This looks really weird to anyone who's played a demand price for more than a few years 11:12:52.440 --> 11:12:54.420 You know this wall is looking a little suspicious 11:12:54.420 --> 11:12:58.700 But uh, well, that's a bit challenging when you're new these guys are pretty new to me have an archer range by now 11:12:58.700 --> 11:13:03.500 Am I crazy? You just build it right? Yeah, that's the yeah, you would he's gonna go for now 11:13:03.500 --> 11:13:08.220 Okay, he's gonna give up the various again by the way, but to be fair like he's gonna late to the wall 11:13:08.220 --> 11:13:11.580 They sound late to a lot of things this rush is sitting a lot earlier than last game. Do you know? 11:13:12.580 --> 11:13:14.580 This is 11:13:15.540 --> 11:13:20.900 All the food all the woodline are exposed. Oh this quick was this house. There's holes for sure 11:13:21.420 --> 11:13:23.420 There's holes for sure. There's holes for sure 11:13:24.420 --> 11:13:26.920 Is there oh my god what that's a hole that's a hole 11:13:28.580 --> 11:13:30.580 So 11:13:31.500 --> 11:13:33.500 Bro that's touching 11:13:36.780 --> 11:13:38.940 No, that's both of us wood lines, bro 11:13:47.660 --> 11:13:49.660 It's arc them on hills and 11:13:49.660 --> 11:13:50.920 Armour is coming in now 11:13:51.320 --> 11:13:53.500 And remember, Malians have that extra pierce armour 11:13:53.500 --> 11:13:57.100 So with this armour, you can have three pierce armour, which is exactly like the Romans 11:13:57.100 --> 11:13:58.700 These guys are very, very solid 11:13:59.000 --> 11:14:00.000 With the Malians here 11:14:01.700 --> 11:14:04.180 He's going for the safe res though, under the TC 11:14:04.180 --> 11:14:05.400 He's just gonna run out quick though 11:14:05.400 --> 11:14:05.900 Yeah 11:14:06.100 --> 11:14:08.040 Again, like, no berries, no woodlines 11:14:08.040 --> 11:14:11.640 Dude, we're taking nothing, we're on straggler trees and it's all sliders 11:14:11.640 --> 11:14:12.140 Yeah 11:14:12.500 --> 11:14:15.880 I'm hitting this gold, by the way, I'm fountain diving past the gold 11:14:16.540 --> 11:14:17.660 I don't think that's the right call 11:14:17.860 --> 11:14:18.660 No, I didn't do that 11:14:18.660 --> 11:14:22.660 Yeah, maybe you would do that, if I don't... 11:14:22.660 --> 11:14:29.660 I'm just doing a little Tokyo Drift, you know. Just to get to the goal. 11:14:29.660 --> 11:14:35.660 Yeah, it sounds like a good idea, but when you're already on both woodlands here, I think you're fine. 11:14:35.660 --> 11:14:38.660 It's getting to fire, though. I think you might be a big fan of that one. 11:14:38.660 --> 11:14:42.660 Yeah, I like it, but where's the backup archery range? 11:14:42.660 --> 11:14:47.660 If skirmes were starting to flow in now, that could have been delicious. 11:14:47.660 --> 11:14:52.400 or just a hundred farms and go castle like they've done so much damage he's 11:14:52.400 --> 11:14:58.120 stuck you're not gonna get much more than this you don't know yet more it's a 11:14:58.120 --> 11:15:01.480 bit of an over time to kill him in feudal is like near damn impossible you 11:15:01.480 --> 11:15:07.640 gotta just I think that's like the adaptation that why I need to make 11:15:07.640 --> 11:15:10.720 like maybe maybe skirmish is a bit too out there but just a kind of cutting 11:15:10.720 --> 11:15:13.520 production here that being said this is fantastic the stragglers have run 11:15:13.520 --> 11:15:19.760 out than the villagers. Another one. The Usurma villager classic. The Usurma villager, luckily 11:15:19.760 --> 11:15:24.240 there is loom but at the very least, the Lagas DC idle time has been kind of creeping up 11:15:24.240 --> 11:15:27.320 but he's getting really good value here with the men of arms killed. One member count 11:15:27.320 --> 11:15:32.800 forced another one out. The bird man. What's happening when he's worked is would he 11:15:32.800 --> 11:15:40.400 be pulling? What are they doing? I actually don't know what they're doing. They don't 11:15:40.400 --> 11:15:46.960 care they are so crazy he's dropped seven villagers what the hell is the message you 11:15:46.960 --> 11:15:53.920 can't pull us out of our home you're going off to make a nature of what is this 11:15:53.920 --> 11:15:59.360 oh that's wild I don't know why he did that that made it so much worse he was 11:15:59.360 --> 11:16:03.880 kind of home I mean you know it's crazy they're still even there because 11:16:03.880 --> 11:16:06.680 because Waga has idle TC during the push again. 11:16:10.180 --> 11:16:15.680 That reminds me of school time, you know, when you couldn't brawl with someone else on school time, 11:16:15.680 --> 11:16:17.380 because then you get in trouble with the teachers and they say, 11:16:17.380 --> 11:16:18.980 we're going to meet here at four o'clock. 11:16:18.980 --> 11:16:20.580 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm the parking lot. 11:16:20.580 --> 11:16:22.480 Yeah, 315, parking lot. 11:16:22.480 --> 11:16:23.980 That's fantastic. 11:16:23.980 --> 11:16:26.780 You know, it's just a meeting at the corner in the woods. 11:16:27.680 --> 11:16:30.280 By the way, behind this two Barrick follow-ups, 11:16:30.280 --> 11:16:34.440 Waga is still committing to more men arms. He is dropping more farms though compared to 11:16:34.440 --> 11:16:38.520 your thermal. Thermal has two farms, kind of poverty economy over here with 14 farms and some 11:16:38.520 --> 11:16:43.080 berries from Waga. So he's eating well and he's doing to flood these men arms. But guys, 11:16:43.080 --> 11:16:48.200 you saw this in the first game, the numbers of archer from your thermal. It's looking scary. 11:16:48.200 --> 11:16:52.120 Like we got 10 now. I really think we need cast lich from Waga. You can't keep diving this now. 11:16:53.640 --> 11:16:56.760 Dude, if he would just cut production after six or seven. 11:16:56.760 --> 11:17:02.480 bro now but literally that's the number I think it's right I think it's the 11:17:02.480 --> 11:17:09.920 right number six or seven I think he's so so he's doing the damage 11:17:09.920 --> 11:17:17.600 I didn't say that you spot on there a drunk it is the right number but I have to say I 11:17:17.600 --> 11:17:22.320 have to add though the looping could also be improved yes this gold line and the 11:17:22.320 --> 11:17:25.640 wood line was very exposed if those three guys that have just been 11:17:25.640 --> 11:17:30.400 hitting palisades for five minutes straight these open dudes busy 11:17:30.400 --> 11:17:36.480 they're afraid to what's a bigger hole to be busy you know 11:17:36.480 --> 11:17:41.920 they're faking it yeah they don't want to die in the archers brother just 11:17:41.920 --> 11:17:45.240 pretending to do work that's the guy in the group project that just puts his 11:17:45.240 --> 11:17:49.960 name on the paper it hasn't done shit yeah walk is gonna send them to their 11:17:49.960 --> 11:17:53.080 death bro they don't want to see that 11:17:53.080 --> 11:17:54.600 it's in a wall 11:17:54.600 --> 11:17:59.320 all right this guy Raveman arm has killed an archer but he does go down but the 11:17:59.320 --> 11:18:02.600 looping's okay it can't be a certainly a little bit better but Waga's doing well 11:18:02.600 --> 11:18:06.040 the thing is though we're just kind of like investing all of our army or all 11:18:06.040 --> 11:18:10.760 of our research into our max no i think we just need market and up here 11:18:10.760 --> 11:18:15.000 market and up would be so good for waga here 11:18:15.000 --> 11:18:18.680 he caught up in the worker production though that's kind of nice 11:18:18.680 --> 11:18:20.680 34-31 here. 11:18:20.680 --> 11:18:23.680 Thermal is on the back foot, and still more army for Wager, by the way. 11:18:23.680 --> 11:18:26.680 So, like, you think we can't really move out, but Fletching coming in here is really nice. 11:18:26.680 --> 11:18:29.680 If someone does have the market to help balance out his economy, he's got a lot of wood, 11:18:29.680 --> 11:18:31.680 and Josh is making a very bad economy. 11:18:31.680 --> 11:18:33.680 You know what he co-upgrades, either. 11:18:33.680 --> 11:18:38.680 Scouts just go down, and Wager continues to do the hitting in multiple sides that he's known for. 11:18:38.680 --> 11:18:41.680 Yeah, and he's doing it way better this game than the last game. 11:18:41.680 --> 11:18:46.680 But Fletching is in now, so that archer ball is just unstoppable by Militia and Feudal. 11:18:46.680 --> 11:18:48.680 So it's not gonna happen. Yeah 11:18:49.440 --> 11:18:51.440 They can kite they can destroy and 11:18:52.640 --> 11:18:55.560 So you gotta get castle you just got to do it 11:18:56.120 --> 11:19:00.800 Intentive fight into this you're just gonna lose army for free like you can like bully the archers back a bit 11:19:00.800 --> 11:19:03.400 But like if you got space to kite it should be fine. You're terrible 11:19:04.560 --> 11:19:08.160 Well, it's about it though long. Yeah, you can't stand still. That's the only thing 11:19:08.920 --> 11:19:13.200 You could flank with the three homies that are hitting them hitting them from the back. Yep 11:19:13.200 --> 11:19:15.200 Maybe it could do some damage like that. 11:19:15.200 --> 11:19:17.200 Oh, the mill is still open, by the way. 11:19:17.200 --> 11:19:19.200 I'm pretty sure the mill is still open here. 11:19:19.200 --> 11:19:21.200 There's still an opening here. I'm pretty sure. 11:19:21.200 --> 11:19:25.200 If that's a hole, Microsoft needs to get to work. 11:19:25.200 --> 11:19:27.200 That looks like a wall. 11:19:27.200 --> 11:19:29.200 That's a rock solid wall. 11:19:29.200 --> 11:19:31.200 He doesn't use the rally trick. 11:19:31.200 --> 11:19:33.200 The rally trick is so open in this game. 11:19:33.200 --> 11:19:35.200 The rally trick? 11:19:35.200 --> 11:19:39.200 Just rally one of the racks into the house 11:19:39.200 --> 11:19:41.200 and they will find all the holes. 11:19:41.200 --> 11:19:46.080 by the way counter-attack me thermal he's done this every game and he's found 11:19:46.080 --> 11:19:50.120 good success with it maybe a tower of the gold is needed wagons almost up the 11:19:50.120 --> 11:19:53.480 castles by the way he is missing that market those who still needs the market 11:19:53.480 --> 11:19:56.800 but go for a few a few quick walls with the archers he doesn't have the wood 11:19:56.800 --> 11:20:00.960 yeah he doesn't have a second building which means he can't go castle even if 11:20:00.960 --> 11:20:05.400 he has the golden through which he does yeah I think I try to go 11:20:05.400 --> 11:20:12.840 good looping though how's it gonna get 175 wood in the next I guess that's 11:20:12.840 --> 11:20:16.120 soon I don't drop it like that we'll just do it yeah so it's gonna be like 11:20:16.120 --> 11:20:20.280 watch power here to defend drop the wood off market cheaper for Malia and so you 11:20:20.280 --> 11:20:23.840 can just make it right now there we go and then we have to cast it after I 11:20:23.840 --> 11:20:29.160 didn't know that look at that looping all the loom though it's crazy 11:20:31.160 --> 11:20:34.280 that was really good here you need to kill a few of these archers if 11:20:34.280 --> 11:20:38.120 If there's just like five left, you don't really care about them. 11:20:38.120 --> 11:20:39.800 You start to chase them, though, with the men-armed stuff. 11:20:39.800 --> 11:20:40.800 You can't leave them. 11:20:40.800 --> 11:20:42.800 The men-armed stuff, they're just coming off. 11:20:42.800 --> 11:20:44.800 That's still a castleage, it's huge. 11:20:44.800 --> 11:20:47.800 Maybe he doesn't have it yet, does he? 11:20:47.800 --> 11:20:48.800 Is he starting it? 11:20:48.800 --> 11:20:51.800 On the way soon, on the way soon. 11:20:51.800 --> 11:20:54.000 I'm praying for it. 11:20:54.000 --> 11:20:56.400 It's gonna be a painful few minutes for Waga, though, here. 11:20:56.400 --> 11:21:00.320 Like, Volkan's evened out and he's just not gonna click up the castleage. 11:21:00.320 --> 11:21:03.160 He'll be really strong when he hits castleage, but he's quite weak until he gets there 11:21:03.160 --> 11:21:05.160 and the archers are running all over his base. 11:21:07.160 --> 11:21:09.160 He might go in. Yeah, Ethan might go in there. 11:21:09.160 --> 11:21:11.160 Oh, Ethan was looking for a quick wall. 11:21:11.160 --> 11:21:13.160 The gate, quick wall. 11:21:13.160 --> 11:21:15.160 Oh, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad. 11:21:15.160 --> 11:21:18.160 It's not bad from Wagga. Well played the quick wall from him 11:21:18.160 --> 11:21:21.160 and the archers go down. Raised he played from Wagga. 11:21:21.160 --> 11:21:23.160 Wait, that was so good. That's really good. 11:21:23.160 --> 11:21:24.160 That could have gone so... 11:21:24.160 --> 11:21:26.160 There's much coming though. Look at the left as well. 11:21:26.160 --> 11:21:28.160 There's another flank of archers on the right. 11:21:28.160 --> 11:21:31.160 It's an archer burger. Look at the maneuver from the left too. 11:21:31.160 --> 11:21:32.000 I like this. 11:21:32.000 --> 11:21:33.660 Got three homies coming through. 11:21:36.580 --> 11:21:38.340 Yeah, but on the water side, you kinda, 11:21:38.340 --> 11:21:40.180 as long as you don't lose Vils, you kinda like this 11:21:40.180 --> 11:21:41.820 because you wanna thin these archers out. 11:21:41.820 --> 11:21:43.780 Yeah. Yeah. 11:21:43.780 --> 11:21:45.020 But you throw them as flying castles. 11:21:45.020 --> 11:21:45.860 She's got that market. 11:21:45.860 --> 11:21:47.300 This is really good for him. 11:21:47.300 --> 11:21:48.140 But like you said, Hrock, 11:21:48.140 --> 11:21:49.860 thinning out the archers is the right call. 11:21:49.860 --> 11:21:50.900 You got a lot of metal armor now. 11:21:50.900 --> 11:21:52.100 Just don't lose them right here. 11:21:52.100 --> 11:21:53.140 I don't think you wanna fight this. 11:21:53.140 --> 11:21:54.460 Don't lose them! 11:21:54.460 --> 11:21:56.060 Lose them! 11:21:56.060 --> 11:21:57.180 Just don't do this. 11:21:57.180 --> 11:21:59.180 I 11:22:00.660 --> 11:22:02.660 Mean relatively even 11:22:04.100 --> 11:22:09.740 Sun soon would say you know split up your army and then I would like to see like like six of these man alarm 11:22:09.740 --> 11:22:16.500 Just make a long loop around. They you turn back and then just pincer them. Is that one of your coaches sons? 11:22:16.500 --> 11:22:44.260 I think Squires first, Squires first could be good, Longswords, Tower on the Wood, I 11:22:44.260 --> 11:22:45.960 I actually kind of like that. I had to buy that stone, 11:22:45.960 --> 11:22:48.240 but I think that's a good idea because now I can just attack. 11:22:48.240 --> 11:22:51.640 Wagga's much better on offense than he is on defense with these infantry. 11:22:51.640 --> 11:22:53.800 So just tower to defend and just go for it. 11:22:53.800 --> 11:22:55.280 If there is a loop in here, no matter. 11:22:55.280 --> 11:22:58.160 You'd be proud of this one, but the tower's there to cut off that loop. 11:22:58.160 --> 11:22:59.800 I think Wagga just goes straight for this one. 11:22:59.800 --> 11:23:00.900 Straight across the map. 11:23:00.900 --> 11:23:01.680 Wait, just go for the- 11:23:01.680 --> 11:23:02.680 Run, run, run, run, run. 11:23:02.680 --> 11:23:03.700 Your channel is in the rags. 11:23:03.700 --> 11:23:04.480 Your channel is in the rags. 11:23:04.480 --> 11:23:05.340 This is your time to go. 11:23:05.340 --> 11:23:07.280 See, this is a int rags. Release him! 11:23:07.280 --> 11:23:07.900 Yeah, release him. 11:23:07.900 --> 11:23:09.360 I get to get him out. 11:23:09.360 --> 11:23:10.940 Here are my homies. 11:23:10.940 --> 11:23:11.840 Longstrips coming in. 11:23:11.840 --> 11:23:13.480 Squires, there we go. 11:23:13.480 --> 11:23:16.080 Remember, Malin's got his extra pierce armor. 11:23:16.080 --> 11:23:17.640 In Cassage, there's a one plus three. 11:23:17.640 --> 11:23:18.920 They're about to be one plus four, 11:23:18.920 --> 11:23:20.160 which is the same as the Romans. 11:23:20.160 --> 11:23:21.640 Romans get two plus three, which is five. 11:23:21.640 --> 11:23:24.080 Here we go, one plus four, which is five. 11:23:24.080 --> 11:23:24.920 Beast. 11:23:26.080 --> 11:23:27.400 He's still not leveraging the Cassage. 11:23:27.400 --> 11:23:29.520 Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. 11:23:29.520 --> 11:23:30.360 Yeah. 11:23:30.360 --> 11:23:31.200 You gotta go now. 11:23:31.200 --> 11:23:32.120 Cassage for your thermal. 11:23:32.120 --> 11:23:33.200 Don't go back. 11:23:33.200 --> 11:23:34.040 Don't go back. 11:23:34.040 --> 11:23:34.880 You've got the long suits. 11:23:34.880 --> 11:23:35.720 You've got the armor. 11:23:35.720 --> 11:23:36.560 This army does nothing. 11:23:36.560 --> 11:23:38.320 You can fight this right now. 11:23:38.320 --> 11:23:39.440 I think it's still open. 11:23:39.440 --> 11:23:40.760 Your thermal has walled amaze. 11:23:40.760 --> 11:23:44.360 If that wall is open, I'm gonna laugh so hard. 11:23:44.360 --> 11:23:47.280 If it's open, you bet your ass it's open, by the way. 11:23:47.280 --> 11:23:49.120 There's 50 buildings there, Hera. 11:23:49.120 --> 11:23:50.480 How is that open? 11:23:50.480 --> 11:23:52.200 I see the path. 11:23:52.200 --> 11:23:53.720 My mind is like, I see through the maze 11:23:53.720 --> 11:23:54.560 and I see the path. 11:23:54.560 --> 11:23:56.080 It's like the blue ones, TD, they're looping through. 11:23:56.080 --> 11:23:58.200 Yeah, exactly. 11:23:58.200 --> 11:23:59.440 There's one path for the blue ones 11:23:59.440 --> 11:24:00.280 that they're gonna go for. 11:24:00.280 --> 11:24:01.200 Water's stressing me out, bro. 11:24:01.200 --> 11:24:02.240 Why is he not attacking? 11:24:02.240 --> 11:24:03.800 I'm getting so stressed. 11:24:03.800 --> 11:24:05.920 I think he's waiting for the CG again. 11:24:05.920 --> 11:24:08.040 All these units, and you get the upgrades early, 11:24:08.040 --> 11:24:09.640 and then you're just like chilling. 11:24:09.640 --> 11:24:12.640 I think he respects the way he's scared of. 11:24:12.640 --> 11:24:15.640 For that Sing Sing, he was running at Sing Sing like an animal by the way, 11:24:15.640 --> 11:24:17.640 and you throw him away just showing him so much respect, I don't like that. 11:24:17.640 --> 11:24:19.640 I think Wagga's a bit scared here. 11:24:19.640 --> 11:24:23.640 I think it's so funny that he just respects Sing Sing. 11:24:23.640 --> 11:24:26.640 Yes, he does not respect Sing Sing at all. 11:24:26.640 --> 11:24:30.640 Sing Sing is a bug I can crush, but you throw him away most deeply respect. 11:24:30.640 --> 11:24:33.640 Bro, imagine if some of these soldiers were just in the woods 11:24:33.640 --> 11:24:38.640 and you just created like a flank on these guys right now. 11:24:38.640 --> 11:24:40.640 I actually see the vision. 11:24:40.640 --> 11:24:42.640 The pincer would be good there. 11:24:42.640 --> 11:24:44.640 He needs to be a lot of burger him right now. 11:24:44.640 --> 11:24:48.640 But bro, he's putting himself in the corner bro. 11:24:48.640 --> 11:24:50.640 What is this? 11:24:50.640 --> 11:24:52.640 Hanzo would say never do this. 11:24:56.640 --> 11:24:58.640 What is going on? 11:24:58.640 --> 11:25:00.640 The cock chair of the forest is getting ripped dude. 11:25:00.640 --> 11:25:02.640 It's terrible. 11:25:02.640 --> 11:25:04.640 Kill move, kill move. 11:25:04.640 --> 11:25:06.640 It's not like it's good. 11:25:06.640 --> 11:25:11.720 Got that good micro. This was one of the worst engagements I've seen from Wagga. He must be tired or something 11:25:11.880 --> 11:25:15.420 This is not it for the infantry though. Very sad to see this 11:25:21.520 --> 11:25:26.840 Oh, dude, that's so sad to see this is how it ends like Wagga could have done so much more with that army 11:25:26.840 --> 11:25:32.040 I feel like I'd rather see this be a game where Wagga is attacked and doled with thermal 11:25:32.040 --> 11:25:39.680 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess in the Romans game, he waited and it worked. 11:25:39.680 --> 11:25:41.680 Maybe he thought I could do that again. 11:25:41.680 --> 11:25:43.280 I agree. To his credit, it did. 11:25:43.280 --> 11:25:45.280 He won that game when it was really well done. 11:25:45.280 --> 11:25:47.780 Yeah. But he's a power spike. 11:25:47.780 --> 11:25:53.680 And so to not use your power spike is just a missed opportunity. 11:25:53.680 --> 11:25:55.520 Yeah. But I mean, to his credit, 11:25:55.520 --> 11:25:57.280 you thermal is just so impressive and scary. 11:25:57.280 --> 11:25:59.980 Like he's just, his archers are really, really good. 11:25:59.980 --> 11:26:00.780 He always gets a lot of them. 11:26:00.780 --> 11:26:04.220 his macro is crazy and then he doesn't forget about them so they're always moving. 11:26:04.220 --> 11:26:08.620 He's also really aggressive with his archers. Something that a lot of players don't do, they like back away from scorpions. 11:26:08.620 --> 11:26:13.660 He just fights into them which is really hard. Like we see their repairs, but he never just fights through like five those repairing. 11:26:13.660 --> 11:26:19.340 And it's relentless to deal with it. It's just the GG here. Yeah, GG well played. Wow. Uthermal takes the game. 11:26:19.340 --> 11:26:20.540 Go 7 soldier. 11:26:21.740 --> 11:26:22.860 Oh, just a G. 11:26:22.860 --> 11:26:27.580 Well played. Uthermal, just one G. You didn't even deserve the second G. 11:26:27.580 --> 11:26:29.580 Thank you 11:26:29.980 --> 11:26:31.740 Respect is there guys 11:26:31.740 --> 11:26:38.580 These guys are on the same team your thermal was the captain GG in the chat here 3-1 for your thermal to beat out waga and 11:26:38.980 --> 11:26:40.300 course 11:26:40.300 --> 11:26:45.300 Guys, waga had a great tournament. It got sing-sing, but that's the end of the run for the toe to two guys 11:26:45.500 --> 11:26:49.060 Let's get an oh seven in the chat for waga. He had a great tournament 11:26:49.060 --> 11:26:52.100 I love what he brought to the table such a nice guys well and 11:26:52.820 --> 11:26:57.220 He really showed up man. He brought some good strategy. Oh, yeah, he tipped them far was fantastic 11:26:57.580 --> 11:27:04.200 I mean, just to be clear, while I gained 400 elo in like three or four days, I've never 11:27:04.200 --> 11:27:07.980 seen anyone do that in the history of like almost any competitive game. 11:27:07.980 --> 11:27:10.560 Now, he mastered this impetuous thing. 11:27:10.560 --> 11:27:12.080 He just took to it so well. 11:27:12.080 --> 11:27:13.080 Yeah. 11:27:13.080 --> 11:27:17.520 And he only lost because he didn't have like a variety of strategies due to not having 11:27:17.520 --> 11:27:18.600 time to master them. 11:27:18.600 --> 11:27:20.240 So he stuck to one strategy. 11:27:20.240 --> 11:27:21.600 It worked really well. 11:27:21.600 --> 11:27:25.240 And he met one of the favorites in the tournament that had to do a specific counter to the 11:27:25.240 --> 11:27:26.240 strategy. 11:27:26.240 --> 11:27:27.240 Even have a chance. 11:27:27.240 --> 11:27:31.560 had this hard counter it the game where he played a standard you know standard scouts into archers 11:27:31.560 --> 11:27:36.040 it just didn't work out and Wagga still killed him that game so you know he took you down with 11:27:36.040 --> 11:27:41.160 the deep waters and it worked out really well for a while and well played you've been saying deep 11:27:41.160 --> 11:27:45.320 waters the whole tournament bro i've been watching a lot you say deep waters every say i love it 11:27:45.320 --> 11:27:50.120 so good pick at the deep waters bro it's so good thank you man you never used to say that 11:27:50.120 --> 11:27:54.280 you're saying all the time now bro your deep waters hrock i don't say it when i'm with 11:27:54.280 --> 11:27:56.000 with you because I'm just flaming you at the time. 11:27:56.000 --> 11:27:57.600 You take nobody's pee waters. 11:27:57.600 --> 11:27:59.940 You're in shallow waters and you're drowning 11:27:59.940 --> 11:28:02.240 in shallow waters, they're talking or coaching sessions. 11:28:02.240 --> 11:28:03.560 You're drowning in the shallow end. 11:28:03.560 --> 11:28:04.400 So I don't need to stay out. 11:28:04.400 --> 11:28:06.160 I know it didn't go well today, 11:28:06.160 --> 11:28:07.160 but you gotta give me credit, bro. 11:28:07.160 --> 11:28:08.920 I think I picked it up at the end. 11:28:08.920 --> 11:28:10.360 The whole ladder I was doing bad. 11:28:10.360 --> 11:28:11.200 I picked it up at the end. 11:28:11.200 --> 11:28:12.120 Yeah, I will say. 11:28:12.120 --> 11:28:14.640 Psychoman, I think it's a 25 gifted by the way. 11:28:14.640 --> 11:28:17.360 I get a W, Mr. Psychoman in the chat. 11:28:17.360 --> 11:28:19.600 It's a big, big gifted subs. 11:28:19.600 --> 11:28:21.120 Before we end off the stream though, 11:28:21.120 --> 11:28:24.920 You want to give a little look at the bracket here in HR. 11:28:24.920 --> 11:28:26.240 Maybe you can give your thoughts to Mato as well. 11:28:26.240 --> 11:28:27.240 Don't go anywhere. 11:28:27.240 --> 11:28:28.440 You think of what will be Wagga. 11:28:28.440 --> 11:28:30.320 He said it'd be in the loser bracket semifinal. 11:28:30.320 --> 11:28:32.760 This set, Grubby Cronford is supposed to be played today. 11:28:32.760 --> 11:28:33.800 It's not played. 11:28:33.800 --> 11:28:35.160 So let's take a look at the matchups tomorrow. 11:28:35.160 --> 11:28:37.560 It's going to be the top four in the world tomorrow, 11:28:37.560 --> 11:28:39.560 not in the world, but in this tournament tomorrow. 11:28:39.560 --> 11:28:41.040 Captain Lance for Spig, upper bracket final, 11:28:41.040 --> 11:28:42.200 thoughts to Mato, go. 11:28:43.600 --> 11:28:46.200 I gotta say, I think what Piggy did against Grubby 11:28:46.200 --> 11:28:48.600 today was insanely impressive. 11:28:48.600 --> 11:28:53.400 So Captain Lance got that range in terms of ability and skill, so I think that that's going 11:28:53.400 --> 11:28:55.360 to be a close one, goes to five games. 11:28:55.360 --> 11:28:59.600 I think Captain Lance, just because he rated me right now, he's going to win it. 11:28:59.600 --> 11:29:01.600 He's easily braved. 11:29:01.600 --> 11:29:04.000 And then I don't know, I'm just feeling about you thermal. 11:29:04.000 --> 11:29:10.440 I think that the way he plays is so authentic, you know, it's so authentic. 11:29:10.440 --> 11:29:12.720 And he has like a feel. 11:29:12.720 --> 11:29:17.560 And I think that is so powerful and best of fives, because I think anyone that climbed 11:29:17.560 --> 11:29:22.180 the ladder through coaching, did it in a very methodical way and kind of one 11:29:22.180 --> 11:29:26.200 gains the same way because everyone has a style. I think Uthermo was the one that 11:29:26.200 --> 11:29:31.240 has just because he kind of taught himself in some strange ways, he's very 11:29:31.240 --> 11:29:34.880 flexible and adapts in the middle of a best of five series. So I think just 11:29:34.880 --> 11:29:38.200 because base of that, best of fives all the way, I think Uthermo's gonna take the 11:29:38.200 --> 11:29:41.920 whole tournament. You've been rocking with Uthermo. We actually have Vlaga 11:29:41.920 --> 11:29:45.760 Mama on Voice by the way. Vlaga just dropped Uthermo but Vlaga, what 11:29:45.760 --> 11:29:49.320 a beautiful performance from you this tournament. You took out Sing Sing, you took out Mr. Lamo 11:29:49.320 --> 11:29:52.960 had a good run, you took out the Spiffing Brits which was here for a good time, he's 11:29:52.960 --> 11:29:57.360 a great guy but you know not the best player of course. But you've had a run, well played 11:29:57.360 --> 11:30:00.880 my friend and how do you enjoy the tournament? 11:30:00.880 --> 11:30:05.280 I think it was so much fun. This game is so awesome. I really just, you know the 11:30:05.280 --> 11:30:10.120 entire part, the ladder race but also the team component. I think it was an enjoyable 11:30:10.120 --> 11:30:14.440 time. I did join kind of late because you know I wasn't sure that I was going 11:30:14.440 --> 11:30:20.520 be able to do it or not but I'm really happy I got to take part of this and I tried to do 11:30:20.520 --> 11:30:25.640 one thing and do it as good as I could and honestly it was very satisfying to try and refine it. 11:30:25.640 --> 11:30:29.880 Bro it's not a say. You were an inspiration to infantry chads everywhere. Yes. Infantry chads 11:30:29.880 --> 11:30:35.400 look up to you man you're a king. I've seen your Roma I've seen you out there smashing too. 11:30:35.400 --> 11:30:37.400 You're a 10-on-10 striker. 11:30:37.400 --> 11:30:38.900 I'm the poster of you on my wall, dude. 11:30:38.900 --> 11:30:41.400 I'm just trying to deal with you. 11:30:41.400 --> 11:30:45.900 I mean, I just find it, yeah, sub-Yamato. 11:30:45.900 --> 11:30:47.400 Dude, your cast have been amazing. 11:30:47.400 --> 11:30:48.900 I've been listening in. 11:30:48.900 --> 11:30:50.400 Bro, I really enjoy your style, bro. 11:30:50.400 --> 11:30:52.400 I feel like the infantry units are the coolest units 11:30:52.400 --> 11:30:53.400 in the game by far. 11:30:53.400 --> 11:30:55.400 They just walk like terminators. 11:30:55.400 --> 11:30:58.400 And I saw the video that Harold dropped on your style, 11:30:58.400 --> 11:31:02.400 and I almost switched completely just based off of your gameplay. 11:31:02.400 --> 11:31:04.400 But I was too much of a pussy. 11:31:04.400 --> 11:31:07.600 I just kept doing the castles up and it didn't work out for me 11:31:07.600 --> 11:31:14.680 I should have stuck to the men like you did and I think you went down like in a in a in a cool ass explosion 11:31:14.680 --> 11:31:19.200 You went down the right way making men at arms, and I respect that bro. I respect that so much 11:31:19.400 --> 11:31:25.240 You are you are gangsta. We should do a show match sometime. You and me. I'm a tourist infantry, you know 11:31:25.240 --> 11:31:28.400 We can enjoy it. Yeah, just meet in the middle, you know 11:31:28.400 --> 11:31:38.840 I mean, I mean, a final for me, my final says just I remember playing this game long ago 11:31:38.840 --> 11:31:44.360 and I remember infantry being absolute ass like I'm playable. So I'm just happy the game 11:31:44.360 --> 11:31:49.560 is in a balance where like, you can do it. Like, I'm not, I'm not very experienced. I'm 11:31:49.560 --> 11:31:54.920 not very good. I'm sure that with good experience and like knowledge, you can probably push 11:31:54.920 --> 11:31:59.680 pretty high with infantry as your main components obviously would probably be 11:31:59.680 --> 11:32:01.280 good to make other units here and there. 11:32:02.600 --> 11:32:04.040 Yeah, uh, absolutely. 11:32:04.040 --> 11:32:07.520 Well, I got like infantry got buffs like a year or so ago and now like they're 11:32:07.520 --> 11:32:11.720 very solid, but as you thermal showed, they're counterable, but not with just 11:32:11.720 --> 11:32:12.120 anything. 11:32:12.120 --> 11:32:15.520 You have to do a specific counter to infantry, uh, which I think is a 11:32:15.520 --> 11:32:16.840 really healthy game state to have. 11:32:16.840 --> 11:32:20.220 Like infantry is a strategy you must respect and when you thermal might 11:32:20.220 --> 11:32:22.440 have not expected it, might have not respected it. 11:32:22.440 --> 11:32:26.280 you were able to take that win and you know you kind of walked through 11:32:26.280 --> 11:32:29.560 syncing as well with the infantry a couple holes there but still a great 11:32:29.560 --> 11:32:34.000 performance from you so yeah 100% support that like infantry balance is pretty 11:32:34.000 --> 11:32:39.200 good right now and it's nice to see it viable but not overpowered. Yeah gotta 11:32:39.200 --> 11:32:42.320 say why is it called infantry bro? I thought it's like at first when I 11:32:42.320 --> 11:32:49.000 heard that I thought a bunch of babies are watching forward. I mean I did have 11:32:49.000 --> 11:32:53.800 A bunch of labies walking forward in my Roman game because I didn't have armor for like the first 5 seconds. 11:32:53.800 --> 11:32:55.800 Dude, that was crazy. 11:32:55.800 --> 11:32:58.800 I was thinking like, why are they taking so much damage? 11:32:58.800 --> 11:33:00.800 I didn't realize that. 11:33:00.800 --> 11:33:02.800 I just don't want that game though, impressive. 11:33:02.800 --> 11:33:06.300 I mean, I will carry that with me after this tournament. 11:33:06.300 --> 11:33:11.800 I should take a game of, you know, an RTS Gold without my fucking armor upgrade. 11:33:11.800 --> 11:33:13.000 So, I'm happy. 11:33:13.000 --> 11:33:14.000 That's pretty damn impressive. 11:33:14.000 --> 11:33:15.800 Waga, a question from the admin actually. 11:33:15.800 --> 11:33:18.200 He's wondering about the Team U thermal chemistry. 11:33:18.200 --> 11:33:19.360 What can you say about that? 11:33:21.040 --> 11:33:22.680 It's been absolutely amazing, honestly. 11:33:22.680 --> 11:33:25.080 I think we've had like good vibes from the start, 11:33:25.080 --> 11:33:26.360 just all the people. 11:33:26.360 --> 11:33:28.280 I mean, Ajuxin is the MVP, I think. 11:33:28.280 --> 11:33:30.800 He's like, absolutely just a 10 out of 10 character 11:33:30.800 --> 11:33:32.080 I didn't know before this event. 11:33:32.080 --> 11:33:34.560 So a big shout out to him. 11:33:34.560 --> 11:33:36.320 But also I want to say like, 11:33:36.320 --> 11:33:38.400 everybody has been just great. 11:33:38.400 --> 11:33:40.920 You know, like the entire team was fantastic. 11:33:40.920 --> 11:33:42.520 Love that, love that. 11:33:42.520 --> 11:33:44.800 Listen, we're gonna wrap up the show here. 11:33:44.800 --> 11:33:46.560 Tomorrow we're gonna have a few matches to look forward 11:33:46.560 --> 11:33:52.120 We're gonna start the show with Knopf versus Grubby and then we're likely to have the loser bracket semis right after that 11:33:52.120 --> 11:33:55.340 Which is gonna be you thermal versus the winner of Knopf versus Grubby 11:33:55.360 --> 11:34:00.520 Then after that of course the upper bracket final the loser bracket final and the grand final guys tomorrow is the final day 11:34:00.720 --> 11:34:02.840 It's the Sunday. It's the last day 11:34:03.360 --> 11:34:07.080 Lastly we'll talk about today's a truck for swag and mama show match if you guys are down 11:34:07.080 --> 11:34:10.280 We can set it up on Tuesday because Monday we have the team games on Tuesday 11:34:10.280 --> 11:34:12.280 We can make that happen if you guys won 11:34:12.280 --> 11:34:17.480 Oh, yeah, I do have some stuff lined up, but I can probably find some time so yeah 11:34:17.480 --> 11:34:19.480 We can probably make it happen 11:34:21.440 --> 11:34:23.440 It's not too early in the morning, you know 11:34:25.680 --> 11:34:32.280 Can I say one thing about this bracket just before we close out and if you were to ask anyone any betting man 11:34:32.440 --> 11:34:37.880 Yeah, at the end of the ladder race who would be in winners finals almost everybody would have said grubby you thermal 11:34:37.880 --> 11:34:42.040 This is so crazy that it's Captain Lance Pig and these two killers are still in 11:34:42.040 --> 11:34:42.560 the losers' bracket. 11:34:42.560 --> 11:34:44.400 So I don't know. 11:34:44.400 --> 11:34:46.000 It's kind of anyone's tournament. 11:34:46.000 --> 11:34:47.560 I don't know if anyone could predict the winner from here. 11:34:47.560 --> 11:34:50.920 It's, I thought it would be way more obviously a grubby, 11:34:50.920 --> 11:34:54.160 you thermal cut above everyone said before I hosted this a truck. 11:34:54.200 --> 11:34:56.480 Everybody said, why do you invite grubby? 11:34:56.480 --> 11:34:57.560 He's just going to stop everyone. 11:34:57.560 --> 11:35:00.880 I was like, no, I said that you in calls off line a hundred times. 11:35:03.880 --> 11:35:04.800 I was so wrong. 11:35:04.800 --> 11:35:08.900 That's pig is incredible. Yeah, and grubby could still easily rip through the losers back 11:35:08.900 --> 11:35:11.840 I don't know. It's a much closer tournament than I expected which is really cool 11:35:11.840 --> 11:35:15.960 Grubby can make the loser bracket run so can you thermal Knopf is the heavy underdog? 11:35:15.960 --> 11:35:19.440 I'm not counting him out. You never really know he can make that run happen 11:35:19.440 --> 11:35:22.060 But he's the underdog and of course Captain Lance pig 11:35:22.320 --> 11:35:27.320 Winner of that gonna be heavily favored going to that last round haven't you know one of them will be undefeated going to the 11:35:27.320 --> 11:35:32.720 Grand finals so yeah, fantastic fantastic sets a truck last call last thing for the chat 11:35:32.720 --> 11:35:35.520 Same for your motto same for waga and then I'll wrap the show up for the night 11:35:36.160 --> 11:35:39.360 Yo, can I call dibs on finals? 11:35:40.120 --> 11:35:43.640 We'll do the casting schedule tomorrow, but you want to cast the final tomorrow? 11:35:44.800 --> 11:35:50.080 Because I'm busy. I'm busy in the morning and I'll be here for the finals. You matter a truck 11:35:50.080 --> 11:35:52.360 I don't a truck. If you confirm it's confirmed. Oh 11:35:53.240 --> 11:35:56.960 I can't confirm on camera. I don't want to say anything that I can't commit to 100% 11:35:56.960 --> 11:36:00.000 So let me talk to you offline and figure it out. Sounds good, bro. You matter 11:36:00.000 --> 11:36:04.000 You might be asleep. You might be asleep. We'll see how it goes. We'll try to get you in there. 11:36:04.000 --> 11:36:08.000 We'll figure it out, but all right. Well, I got an HR class call here. 11:36:08.000 --> 11:36:12.000 I'll do my last four. I just want to say, you know, I'm super, super sorry to anyone who wanted to see me compete. 11:36:12.000 --> 11:36:17.000 I'm sorry I missed today. I stood up till 4am grinding builds. I'm not a tournament player. 11:36:17.000 --> 11:36:20.000 You know, I should know to keep my outside of game as healthy as the inside of game. 11:36:20.000 --> 11:36:23.000 But I had a really good time with this thing. The ladder right was so much fun. 11:36:23.000 --> 11:36:27.000 My match with Dana was so much fun. I had a great time. I'm wishing Kanoff best of luck tomorrow. 11:36:27.000 --> 11:36:31.160 I think I have no chance for his grubby anyway, so it's like give him to give him the shot and 11:36:31.840 --> 11:36:38.280 Yeah, just this is all a huge blast for me. I'm not normally a gamer so I'm streamed. This is a really fun little side thing 11:36:38.280 --> 11:36:41.360 I love that a truck. I'm really happy you're able to commit to this event 11:36:41.360 --> 11:36:47.240 I know you're a busy guy and the fact that you actually took this seriously had a good ass one and honestly 11:36:47.240 --> 11:36:49.520 I think you had a lot of potential if not for the incident today 11:36:49.560 --> 11:36:51.800 But I'm really proud of you honestly you did very well 11:36:51.800 --> 11:36:57.160 And I'm glad we have you for the casting at least so well done. He talks loose in the chapter him and of course you're still on voice 11:36:57.160 --> 11:36:59.960 It's a little awkward. You'll see the solutes fly out though, but you know what done bro 11:36:59.960 --> 11:37:04.600 Well, I'm a rare cop in the community with some financial advice. Give us some financial advice 11:37:05.400 --> 11:37:07.080 space yeah 11:37:07.080 --> 11:37:11.400 Yeah, all in on space X and if you're you thermal stop sitting your villagers to die 11:37:11.920 --> 11:37:15.940 You'll have way more money. You'll have way more money now. That's a big advice to you 11:37:16.440 --> 11:37:21.160 That's very good. All right. Last words manga and then I'll wrap up the show manga. Let's hear it, bro 11:37:21.160 --> 11:37:27.360 Yeah, just thank you so much for having me here. You know, I I did make some some concessions for this 11:37:27.360 --> 11:37:31.640 I have to cast in like seven hours. I start casting TI qualifiers 11:37:32.240 --> 11:37:38.120 In Dota, so I gotta go to sleep now wake up and straight to casting so it's been a great fun 11:37:38.120 --> 11:37:43.360 You know, I think this game is epic and it's cool to see all the people who have enjoyed watching this love it 11:37:43.360 --> 11:37:47.200 Thank you all. Thank you all very much. Have a great night everyone and I'll see you guys tomorrow. Peace out 11:37:51.160 --> 11:37:56.160 All right guys, bro. I love the cast we have in here and I love the viewers 11:37:56.160 --> 11:37:59.520 I don't know how many viewers but we think we peaked over 20,000 today 11:37:59.520 --> 11:38:05.200 I am beyond stoked as you guys to see the subbar on your screen when that hits 9,000 11:38:05.200 --> 11:38:11.680 And I think we will get it tomorrow at least I hope we can when I get a confirmed Kings gauntlet number two for next year 11:38:11.840 --> 11:38:18.180 This is we hit we broke 30k overall, but I think 20k on my channel alone between Twitch and YouTube 11:38:18.180 --> 11:38:24.620 That's a record of my channel 31k we've broke 35k we had some other streamers on it in the earlier days as well, so 11:38:26.900 --> 11:38:28.900 It's just been a fantastic stream overall 11:38:28.900 --> 11:38:35.120 I'm just like look at this 5000 still on the on YouTube is 7000 probably still in twitch. It's absolutely fantastic, but 11:38:35.580 --> 11:38:38.220 Of course guys the matchups are set for tomorrow 11:38:39.820 --> 11:38:42.340 Dude, it's been such a great such a great tournament 11:38:42.340 --> 11:38:45.780 Let's do a bit of Q&A here before I log off because I got some time here 11:38:45.780 --> 11:38:48.180 So drop your questions or keep the brackets in the back 11:38:49.540 --> 11:38:54.420 Let me see those questions twitch peak today 16,261 on twist tracker 11:38:54.580 --> 11:38:58.900 So with YouTube we picked like 7,000 by the way, so we broke 23,000 by the way 11:38:59.220 --> 11:39:02.260 Earlier today, so let's do a Q&A if you have a few questions 11:39:02.260 --> 11:39:04.420 We'll just talk for a minute here before we end off 11:39:04.900 --> 11:39:09.140 T90 casting T90 was supposed to cast today with me. I don't know what happened that he didn't 11:39:09.460 --> 11:39:13.500 My admins taking care of it. I think T90 might have gotten busy or something not answered in time 11:39:13.500 --> 11:39:16.700 We'll try to get T90 in tomorrow. I'm going to do the casting schedule later 11:39:17.340 --> 11:39:24.180 Do you think you'll be able to host a meeting Kings Gauntlet later this year? No, but we have a sub-a-thon later this year at least confirmed 11:39:24.580 --> 11:39:28.500 Hrks said maybe he overslucked. Yeah, maybe T90 oversluck. He wouldn't be the first one 11:39:28.780 --> 11:39:32.540 You wouldn't be the only one for the oversleeping department 11:39:35.540 --> 11:39:42.100 Yeah, let's see it see we wrap up early so you can coach grubby. No, we're not wrapping up early as a 12-hour day today guys 11:39:42.100 --> 11:39:44.100 It's not an early wrap up 11:39:45.420 --> 11:39:46.660 Let's see 11:39:46.660 --> 11:39:51.140 Monday team games equal same teams from group stages hair up maybe but I might adapt them depending on it 11:39:51.140 --> 11:39:53.380 But I think same teams from group stage could be kind of fun 11:39:56.100 --> 11:39:58.700 Idea leaks for the second term it's haven't even thought of it 11:39:58.700 --> 11:40:04.020 We'll see if it's the 9,000 subs and I'll get planning as they's arriving. You're welcome fantastic. That is excellent news 11:40:05.140 --> 11:40:10.580 Kings go on it you if we get the 9000 subs and I'll make it happen confirmed for next year God willing of course 11:40:12.100 --> 11:40:16.100 Does the winner bracket get an advantage over the loser bracket in the finale? Yes! 11:40:16.100 --> 11:40:19.100 I haven't decided what the advantage is though, so that's a bit awkward. 11:40:21.100 --> 11:40:24.100 That is a bit awkward, actually. I haven't decided what the advantage is. 11:40:25.100 --> 11:40:26.100 Shit. 11:40:26.100 --> 11:40:31.100 So, he actually might not get an advantage, because I haven't decided what it is, which is hilarious. 11:40:32.100 --> 11:40:35.100 Rules on the fly. I can't really add one in now, eh? 11:40:38.100 --> 11:40:41.100 It should be 1-0? No, we're not gonna do 1-0 for sure. 11:40:42.100 --> 11:40:45.420 Herald live coaching it's not grubby. You can't be like that 11:40:45.940 --> 11:40:52.020 Guys the fight the advantage is grubby wins. That's the advantage grubby did automatically wins the finals cuz it's grubby 11:40:52.460 --> 11:40:54.460 That's the hair advantage 11:40:54.740 --> 11:40:59.060 There actually might not be an advantage. I might do one sieve ban though 11:40:59.060 --> 11:41:03.060 I might do one sieve ban for the guy coming in to 11:41:03.660 --> 11:41:08.820 Through the upper bracket final, but we'll see adding in rules last minute is very controversial 11:41:08.820 --> 11:41:11.140 So I don't know if I'm going to add that in yeah 11:41:11.140 --> 11:41:15.500 I'm saying might because like adding in a rule controversial is like last minute is controversial 11:41:15.500 --> 11:41:19.300 So I think I might just make it no advantage and it is what it is 11:41:19.540 --> 11:41:22.860 Like the advantages you just haven't lost in your savage like you're just a Chad 11:41:23.460 --> 11:41:27.620 Money advantage. Oh, yeah, that's good. If you win without losing you get an extra 500 11:41:27.620 --> 11:41:29.980 Maybe the thing is I don't have an extra $500 11:41:29.980 --> 11:41:31.900 So because I have to pay the coaches and shit 11:41:31.900 --> 11:41:34.540 I got so much I got so much payments to pay out right now 11:41:34.540 --> 11:41:37.020 So it's not looking like too good to just add money to it 11:41:37.020 --> 11:41:39.020 Thanks for the stream, Rumi. 11:41:39.020 --> 11:41:40.020 Thank you, Roxy. 11:41:40.020 --> 11:41:42.020 Thanks for filling in and yapping with Yamato as well. 11:41:42.020 --> 11:41:44.020 Thank you, Roxy, for the five gifted. 11:41:44.020 --> 11:41:47.020 Also, 13 Pre-Chon or Leprechaun or whatever that is. 11:41:47.020 --> 11:41:48.020 Thank you for the one gifted sub. 11:41:48.020 --> 11:41:49.020 Really appreciate it. 11:41:49.020 --> 11:41:51.020 And your Roxy final work today. 11:41:51.020 --> 11:41:52.020 She yapped earlier. 11:41:52.020 --> 11:41:53.020 I think we'll give her a little break. 11:41:53.020 --> 11:41:55.020 She'll be back tomorrow, though. 11:41:55.020 --> 11:41:59.020 I did have an advantage from a Worker 3 run. 11:41:59.020 --> 11:42:02.020 Yeah, Yamato had one, but it is what it is. 11:42:02.020 --> 11:42:04.020 They played one last set. 11:42:04.020 --> 11:42:06.020 That could be Grubby's fourth set of the day if he makes the run. 11:42:06.020 --> 11:42:08.020 Yeah, that's true. 11:42:08.020 --> 11:42:10.020 Roxy's in a bubble bath, so no words from her. 11:42:10.020 --> 11:42:12.020 She's just chilling on the phone. 11:42:12.020 --> 11:42:15.020 Yeah, I think the advantage they'll have is that they'll play one less set for the day. 11:42:15.020 --> 11:42:17.020 Maybe two less sets. This is also fine. 11:42:17.020 --> 11:42:20.020 Yeah, that's the advantage. They'll still get something. 11:42:20.020 --> 11:42:26.020 We'll see how it goes, but maybe a small call for the upper bracket player. 11:42:26.020 --> 11:42:28.020 Winner's advantage, three map picks. 11:42:28.020 --> 11:42:30.020 I thought of that shredding on YouTube. 11:42:30.020 --> 11:42:35.020 I think that's a decent idea, but I didn't add it, so it's my fault. 11:42:35.020 --> 11:42:39.460 I think that is being more rested and that's enough. Gigi's today here. I love the journey. Thank you to your ducking on YouTube 11:42:39.500 --> 11:42:42.340 Why can't the advantage be the usual one? Well the usual one for a 11:42:43.060 --> 11:42:47.980 Double-initiation is like one zero or like some other small advantage or even like a bracket reset 11:42:47.980 --> 11:42:51.620 But I haven't planned that and I don't like one zero and I don't like bracket reset. So I 11:42:52.180 --> 11:42:57.460 Think the rest is enough. Yeah, I think done being more rested and less stressed is enough of an advantage 11:42:57.460 --> 11:42:58.900 We just leave it like that 11:42:58.900 --> 11:43:04.060 Yeah, guys listen, that's enough for the day. It's a 12-hour stream of putting in the work 11:43:04.060 --> 11:43:09.980 It's like I look up 12 out of 15 hour and a half first day at 12 hour day two and a 12 hour day three 11:43:10.540 --> 11:43:13.260 It's I've been working non-stop, but it's been more than worth it 11:43:13.260 --> 11:43:20.380 So thank you all for watching tomorrow 13 GMT. We're back ladies and gents. We'll see you guys tomorrow 13 GMT for the final day of the 11:43:20.380 --> 11:43:21.100 King's gauntlet 11:43:21.100 --> 11:43:25.100 Thank you all so much for watching it means a lot to me to see so many people on the channel 11:43:25.100 --> 11:43:26.460 We broke viewer records 11:43:26.460 --> 11:43:29.900 We're breaking subscriber records and we're breaking fun records on his app 11:43:29.900 --> 11:43:34.980 I haven't had more fun than I've had in the tournament in a long time. So huge. Thank you to everyone. Where did the next 11:43:34.980 --> 11:43:37.700 You'd go I shaved it. I want to be prepared for the final couple days 11:43:37.700 --> 11:43:42.060 But oh sevens in the chat you two been to which I appreciate y'all a lot 11:43:42.060 --> 11:43:46.640 Oh sevens of the chat tomorrow final day tell your friends. Let's break the viewer record today 11:43:46.640 --> 11:43:53.900 We broke 23,000 on twitch and YouTube for the channel 30 30 plus thousand in terms of the total viewing of the tournament 11:43:53.900 --> 11:43:55.180 Let's see if you can break that tomorrow 11:43:55.180 --> 11:43:59.620 I'm sure we will we got the best the best matchups and the best highlights still to come 11:43:59.900 --> 11:44:04.060 Thanks for watching and I'll pass you guys on to another streamer. 11:44:04.060 --> 11:44:05.060 Let's find out who's on. 11:44:05.060 --> 11:44:06.060 Is Yamato still on? 11:44:06.060 --> 11:44:07.060 Pig is on! 11:44:07.060 --> 11:44:10.060 I don't know if Yamato's on. 11:44:10.060 --> 11:44:14.860 I'll probably throw you guys to Pig though. 11:44:14.860 --> 11:44:18.220 He's still in the tournament and he had a good first round today, a good round today. 11:44:18.220 --> 11:44:20.620 So it's great Pig. 11:44:20.620 --> 11:44:25.100 Once again guys, I've said what I have to say but thanks for watching and I appreciate 11:44:25.100 --> 11:44:26.100 y'all. 11:44:26.100 --> 11:44:27.220 Seriously, much love from me to you guys. 11:44:27.220 --> 11:44:29.580 No jokes, I appreciate y'all a lot and have a good one. 11:44:29.580 --> 11:44:31.580 See you guys tomorrow.