tough because I think right now he's very tied to ultimate hunter as the rune, right? Because
most cannons have been doing the electrocute setup where you go start, you run ignite, you
have a door and blade, and he's pretty oppressive in lane. He's kind of a ridiculous laner. And then,
yeah, as you get to late game, your ult just has no cooldown, you're spamming every single fight.
But if I was a cannon player and I saw this nerf, I'd be super sad that that's going to be
gruff for him because I don't think he builds a whole lot of haste in his normal build. He usually goes
gunblade, shadow flame, and then more AP stuff. So he's really just going to be relying on the
ulti hunter to get that down from two minutes. So that is going to feel bad. This almost feels to me
like it's like a precursor to like a mini, a mini like reshaping or rework where it's like, if you're
going to take that much off of the ultimate, I feel like they're going to try to put more power into
into the basic abilities. That would be my guess because that nerf on the ultimate just seems
way too insane for a champion that is entirely base late game around finding a good ultimate.
And it could also be them saying, all right, if you want to do the new gunblade, then you're
going to have to pay a bigger cost. Because they're like, well, if you go, you know, the
proto belt, the old like proto belt star and try and get like, are they trying to force people to
build more haste and ultimate haste because that can be a way of like reshaping it where
it just makes you reallocate your resources as a change in power because now you're going to have
to spend more gold in a different place. But yeah. Time for some support cannon and bring back the
Callista cannon so we can go Zeke's and get some CDR. Well I wouldn't mind having to build a little
bit more CDR because I don't know how much you guys have played against cannon when they get going
And they have the shadow flaming stuff, but he'll kill you in under a second with his ultimate from the it is shocking
Okay, that's a bad pun in unintended, but it is actually
Really shocking how fast he kills
I couldn't think of better word. Yeah, I tried but yeah, it's crazy. So it'll still have the damage just not as often
So yeah, so I feel great. I think it's
Touched on most of the changes Zach's getting nerfs, which I never like to see he's in my mid laner when I feel mid
I just think that it's pretty cheesy, but it's a good time. I would say, you know, as much as I got your back
Zach has been good in like four roles
for quite a while, so
It might be deserved
Yeah, well, we'll see
It's gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see how much of a difference this makes
I don't feel like it's gonna push the needle too much
I just out of curiosity was counting for for jungle to where where you had to go down to to find the first AP champ
I'm not counting mouth light because mouth light builds tank right nothing
Okay, he's split image. He is AP
He actually has a lot of rocket mouth lights. I know he does. I know he does magic damage
Well, there's also a lot of rocket mouth lights and so that will build it. All right. Well, I'm talking about pro play
Yeah, he's he's the only AP champion in top 20 in in pro play
You have to go down further to he's mixed his W's fizz. Yeah, true
Well, and I mean it's just like when I say like AP I'm thinking someone like who's building like, you know
building a lot of AP. Obviously there are champions that deal mixed damage and
magic damage and stuff that are in there. I mean yeah. What was the champion?
After there was full AP? Yeah. There was like Diana as a few picks but it's
outside of the top 20. I don't know. 23rd or 24th or something like that.
But basically yeah there's zero AD mids except for Yone and there's zero AP
junglers in pro play. So yeah it's just that that's something I would like to
see change because I've just been noticing that more and more as we're
going further in the season.
Like, yeah, it's just every game is just tierless.
You just go down and makes drafting pretty boring, I think.
Yeah.
I mean, pretty fair.
Minion junk are always kind of tied together in that aspect too.
Yep.
Make jungle great again.
Bring back some APs.
Where's my fiddle sticks?
You know, it, it is tough in a way because of how drafting works because
you're always going to have to blind pick something, right?
And top lane, you generally don't want to blind unless it's reneced in or a
tank, but eventually run out of those and then bot lane mashups could be pretty sharp.
So a lot of times it does end up being the jungle that's blinded and then mages are
kind of stable.
So it makes sense, but I totally agree with you.
It would be sick if we could see some assassins in pro play.
Imagine pro play if the meta is Zed versus Keyanna, Talon, whatever, basically just taking
solo queue and putting it in pro play.
That'd be fun because honestly there were times, it's super long ago at this point,
you know, season four, uh, Samson whites, world skin was actually Talon, which it's kind of crazy to think that Talon made was being played in pro, but it's happened before maybe happen again.
I even liked the, uh, a Kali Silas meta that we had.
And that wasn't even two.
That wasn't that wasn't that long ago.
That was like G2 era.
Yeah.
And they had pikes only.
And it was, uh, you know, a little taste there.
Uh, so maybe we could get Zeka on the balance team next.
There you go.
Yeah.
No, I think I just think it's fun.
Like, and I don't, I don't care that it's every game or anything.
anything I just want like come on. There's got to be something in the top 20. That's that's an 80 mid laner outside of
yo like let's be real. Something is wrong. I feel like if you can't have like any champions being picked even 5% of the
time, right? It's just like, I don't know. I just think that would be cool to see. We're gonna take a quick break and then
we'll be right back to talk about this super week that's coming up. It's going to be super Friday, Saturday, Sunday. We're
back in the right games arena. Get your tickets now and we'll see you there.
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If this is different, I like different.
I'm staying right here.
Are you guys serious? We're about to get into game!
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You guys need to walk in. Maybe this'll help.
Welcome back to the dive driven by Kia. Let's talk about the games coming up on Friday.
Guess I said Friday. It is going to be Team Liquid Alienware playing up against DSG.
This is a lower bracket match. So pretty scary for DSG, but also for TL.
I mean, I think people are still talking. Every pro I talk to is still telling me, yeah, like TL and Lion.
They still think they're top teams based off scrims.
So like that obviously is one factor, but DSG on stage
has looked pretty good.
So it's going to be kind of, I don't know.
It's a lot of pressure on both teams, I feel like.
Definitely.
And at some point if you're liquid,
don't you just want to stop that we're doing really well
in scrims narrative because that has followed them around
for so long.
And I don't know if there's ever been a time
where that has helped a team.
I think that is almost a curse.
Definitely a curse I'll say, because no one is sitting there saying, you know, T1 is one world, three times in a row, but you know, the Scrim God team, right?
Yeah, I don't want to play against T1 and Scrims, I want to play against Liquid and Scrims.
So just being a successful Scrim team doesn't actually seem very good unless you're also successful on stage.
So I would, I feel like I would want to downplay that if I was someone in that situation.
But obviously liquid it should be super hungry coming into this since a lot of people in this room put them number one on their
Preseason power rating and now they barely made it into playoffs. So that's that's their real motivating factor is that like we got to do it for Kobe and
Is it people will flame them for their time power these guys look like idiots. We got to do something.
King Leclerc, come on!
No, I mean, it's funny. I hear what you're saying about the scrims, but also when they were owning, like when they were considering a best team in the West and like, you know, doing well against some of the Eastern teams, you know, having some competitive series and stuff, they were also doing really well on scrims.
And one thing I will say is a benefit to having that reputation is that you can get scrims with the top Eastern teams.
That's a good point.
So I think that like, at least as far as you have to get to international development, but if you have that reputation, then you can scrim against the Gen G's and the, you know, the T ones and get practice against those teams, which can be beneficial.
But yeah, I mean, TL at this point, I don't feel like TL is even the ones, you know, peddling the, the scrim rumors. It's just when I talk to other people and I ask about like, Oh, like, what are you, what are your power rankings or what is this?
or what is this or like who are you really scared of every pro team is still saying yeah like
TL and Lion are still really scary and when I talked to Zven on pros I mentioned this last week
and I was like oh you know if you could have picked the lower bracket teams would you
no they still think that they're the better teams even though they are on the lower bracket because
when you're a pro player 90 plus percent of your practice is scrims not stage games right so like
like if you play TL and they beat your butt every day
and you beat them one time on scrims,
you're still gonna think they're a good team, right?
Like it's hard, I think, for teams
to kind of get out of that mindset,
but clearly they're struggling on stage.
And I don't think that TL have washed away many fears
with the recent games that we've seen
because while they did win their little tiebreaker thing
at the end with Dignitas.
That was such a back and forth game.
And that was the one that we were,
did we discuss this already when we were talking about
the Niko bait?
The Niko bait and stuff.
And so you guys wondered,
would Team Liquid have even won that game?
If FBI wasn't like, I'm gonna bait this Niko all
and his teammates were like, yeah,
I'm gonna bait it with you type thing.
So like, that was really close.
And so I guess I'm trying to gauge people's confidence level now.
Pretty low.
Yeah, because it isn't like, oh, we had these crazy scream rumors.
Everybody is super high on them.
And then they started out some rough stage games.
But then they ironed out the issues or fixed everything.
It doesn't seem like it is in changing.
Yeah, no, it hasn't.
Yeah, I wanted to mention the good thing you brought up the FBI,
I think, because that was from a Cloud Sedecki interview.
And I forgot to mention that last week.
So I wanted to mention that now.
But yeah, no, I mean, I don't feel like my confidence has
increased in them at all.
Like, they haven't really shown us that much yet on stage.
They looked really nervous in that game against Digg.
Like you said, yeah, they won.
But they barely scraped by.
And even with a really advantageous position,
they then had Quid get caught and then they're opting into a 4v5,
which was the exact same issue that they had way back before against Cloud9,
like when I think back to week one where they opted into a 4v5 against Cloud9
when Quid wasn't even there and a completely game blew up and instantly ended.
And so they seem to take these really weird fights where it is like,
I don't know, I don't know if it's just overconfidence where they just always
are slamming everyone every day and scrims.
So there's like, yeah, I win these all day and then they just take them on stage
and they doesn't work, or if it's just nerves or what is going on,
but they clearly have not gotten it together yet.
Does not mean that they can't.
Obviously, they have very, very strong individual players.
But no, I mean, it's kind of scary going into this.
And DSG, I think at the same time,
is probably going to be pretty frustrated that they lost
their series, because they came off of a five-game banger
against Sentinels, where had they won that,
they're guaranteed to at least go to America's Cup,
if not first hand.
And now you're going into the bottom
and you're gonna be playing against this team
that is known as this real big threat.
So it's gonna be interesting.
I mean, I think that puts a lot of pressure on DSG
to try to continue moving forward, but also TL.
If you lose here to DSG, that is rough
because their expectations, not even just for the players,
but like org side, the expectations for TL
are always really, really high, right?
And changes get made on this roster and on this org
really fast if stuff doesn't go well.
Yeah, definitely. And I would still favor Liquid looking at it because, well, I've been pretty impressed with the SG.
I do think their series against Sentinel kind of left something to be desired from me, not just because it didn't win, but...
Left the support to be desired.
Lions had a very rough series, absolutely. And I also think some of their drafts were a little bit sketchy to me.
So even in, well, it was at game three where they played their Ivern,
NASA's comp.
I, when I was watching that game, I feel like they should have lost this game
super early if, once they fell behind.
And I think humbuck just kind of free through this one back to them by
getting caught repeatedly in extremely questionable ways.
Cause looking at that team comp, you have zero magic damage threat on your team.
And you're relying on Yone Nasus to win teamfights against Kennen, Wukong, Victor, Yunar.
You know, basically all of Sentinel's team comp is this explosive AoE teamfight comp,
and you're expecting Nasus and Yone to be able to operate.
So I thought it was a legitimate miracle slash criminal throw by Sentinel's that DSG were actually able to pick up this win.
I think, just stylistically, these two comps, I don't think DSG's comp should really ever win that game.
We saw a lot of, like, that example. I also feel like, to be fair, I think DSG just wasn't even that coordinated in a lot of the times when they were faking fights earlier,
and Callme had a horrendous Yone game. Callme basically did nothing the entire game until, I think, about the last two fights.
Once he completed his IE, he had some contributions in the fights, but it wasn't just, like, a Lions bad series.
That game three specific I think was interesting because obviously Senna and Nassus like scale food infinity the game went long
You know I think thanks to some mistakes me from home bucket and God and thanks to some mistakes on the other side
And then you do end up in this situation where we have this really late game fight
Which was and it ended up being kind of like a game deciding fight where castle has like
750 stacks or whatever on Nassus and and Senna has a hundred and something stacks and whatever and like they hit this point where
the fight starts, so many tools were actually spent not on Castle and then
Castle can get in and like get a ton of damage out. Doing like 900 damage to use
for sure. Yeah, exactly. And in all the previous fights where he would TP in, he
TP in kind of and be like, if I would already be lost, everyone would just like
CC him and he would never move and then he would die, right? Which is kind of like
that's kind of NASA and NASA's looks a lot of time. But this one was a weird one
for me like in general for the DSG side just because Lions had I think one of the
worst support performances I've ever seen in the best of five. Like he was horrendous
and he's the only one who had playoff experience on their team going into it, right? So you
would think, oh, he's going to be like the more stable guy. And I also feel like prior
to the series, he had played pretty darn well for them. I thought he was like a really pleasant
surprise. I thought he was actually doing quite well for the team. But the other four players
had zero playoff games in their career played. So you come in, Lions is having a horrible,
horrible series. The Blitz game. He hit two hooks in lane. I
legitimately could not remember another hook that he hit the
whole rest of the game. That was a rough. He was completely
useless. The the bar game. He was actively griefing his team
multiple times like we we got the clip. We bring up the clip.
Um I mean the the elder fight is the one that ever remembers
where it's okay. The game five. It's coming down to the elder
fight. I think that we're going to lose anyway to be fair.
But it's a funny way to go out. It's a horrible way to go
Wow. Castle throws down equalizer on their back line. Cry returns on said one. He throws
out the said one. He all and then in comes the Lions Bartle and just amuse them both.
And it's like, yeah, I guess like he had some really weird stuff. And then they had this,
this play on top lane as well where call me was playing Tristana that game. And he was
like knocking down the tower and the tower had like, I don't know, 5% health or something
a couple of autos, right? And it looked like he just wanted to kill the tower and then
try to pull off a dive. And, um, and Sentinels are responding and line's just like, also
the tower and so we can't, the tower. And so call me just like, kind of standing there,
like, do I leave? Like, do I stay? Like, I thought Bart is in my team. Yeah. Like, what's
happening here? And, and then they had that play. There was also another river fight,
um, down on Bautseye river where he like misplaced the, the tunnel. Oh yeah. The shortest tunnel
like it's like it's like a one inch tunnel. So at first I thought it just expired, but
I didn't realize it was just placed that badly. Like such a bunch to get in this tunnel that
he thinks is going to save them and you move one inch and then you die. It was like, it
was crazy. Like these games were horrible from my ads, but I also think call me, call
me had a good a call game. His Yone game. He did absolutely nothing.
The Ari game. He did a lot of dying. The Ari game. He got sprint for it. He was absolutely
sprinting it. Get your starting aim. It wasn't great either. And I like it was interesting
to me too because I was coming into this thinking all dark wings can play is control mages like
surely if it goes to game four game five, he's going to be the one getting pinched. But in
game five, he blinds way and we're picking Trist into it. I used to play a lot of Trist
mid. I love that. That is not a good matchup at all. Every time you rocket jump, you just
get feared for free. Like, and if you can't go aggressive into these control mages on
interest, you can't win. You just get poked down, right? Like, and generally, you get outscaled.
You know, maybe the thought process is like, oh, I just, you know, I just kind of like farm and
push and then maybe I can out teamfight you later because like, just can be a good teamfighter.
But I thought Colmey didn't have a great series. Cryra also, I mean, again, it's like,
he played one series with them prior to this and it's his first playoff game. So like,
these are more expected. But Cryra, I think definitely had had some, some pretty rough
moments. I don't think he was like, you know, horrible by any means, but I did feel like,
Sajed and Castle were playing quite well in almost every game, and I felt like the other three at times were more up and down, and Lyons was only down.
Yeah, I was going to defend Cryer a little bit by saying, when he was on Sedge, I don't blame him for what happens.
I blame whoever put him on Sedgewani, because I'm actually a fan of Sedgewani. I thought she was fun to play in Pro, but this jammy is so bad.
She is so trash. I don't know why you would pick her in a game you try to win.
And we'll also with your solo laners that are a rumble and a trist if you're gonna pick it then and you're picking it with something
That is like super quick auto attack reset or something and you play the synergy at least you can argue that then right at least
You can say well you're using the synergy of the kit
but
And they had this they're only mainly on the team was rumble who doesn't even auto attack
That's what I'm saying with right and it was there's no longer for the center synergy
Yeah, it was a really wild such oney angle. I'm not really sure what the
Rational was forgive him for the said oney. Well, what about some of these invades?
He just is doing these invades every game
It was the same thing he did in the previous series where he where he was dying
But it was like you look at the Mundo game where he's just like kind of doing these like all the wolf in vain
Like he did this wolf invade and he started that wolf invade like three times in in like five six games
Like he just he walks in and it feels like I don't know if their thought processes
We just need to play it better and like this should work. It's the correct play. We just aren't executing. Maybe that's the thought process
but
You know you talk about like getting behind as a jungler and how difficult that can make it
Well, that has happened to them multiple times and tomorrow recollection happened to them twice in this series
It happened in the previous series as well where they're going on these invades and it doesn't even feel like it's close to working
Yeah, the the first one in particular
He had no respect for who he
Okay, a lot of people understand who he is of heavy roaming support and likes to go make these plays
And he goes for the invade after just pushing out the enemy jungler a little bit
like he's not even that low he just pushed him out of the jungle and then who he stays on the top side and
They clap him super easily and it just looks turbo int
But I guess for that one at least you maybe you argue something about support tracking
But yeah, so it will not like if I recall correctly
correctly. They didn't seem like there's no vision, there's no anything like so. Wasn't
there a fight right before that where both supports were and I think Lions left. If you
go back a little bit, I'm pretty sure there was a fight before this that led him. Yeah,
thinking that this was an okay play. If he didn't stay, it actually would have been fine.
It's possible before if you go back to the original thing because that doesn't show the
beginning. Yeah, because what you're talking about, there's a fight before both supports
at it. He puts the enemy jungler out. His support leaves. Yeah. So he's like, Oh, my support,
their support left also, but who he doesn't leave. He stays around. They also did it in the bar game
though. They did the same thing in game five and just walked in and died too. And it was like,
that game, they had, they had support there first. Because they had, they had the roam from bar,
which I guess was maybe their thought process was like, Oh, like, we're gonna have first move.
So like, this is going to work out because of that. But both games, I think that that was rough.
I felt like he was pretty disjointed from from the rest of the team and like a lot of different situations
So this is again, it's like I get it. It's his it's his second ever pro series. It's his first ever playoff games
I'm not I'm not trying to blame him, but it was just I don't think it's fair to say
It's only on Lions because I was seeing a lot of I think Lions had a horrendous series
Like I said, I think it's one of the worst support series I've seen but
It's not just on him. I thought I thought call me had some really horrible games
I thought Kara had some pretty pretty bad games to this is the previous the previous thing you're talking about
Where they had they had both supports room and they were kind of fighting at at scuttle and then try to invade out after this
right, so I actually think this play from
Chirer is pretty reasonable. You know you push out the top side quite heavily
Impact can't fight
Vi is fully pushed out of the jungle in this situation. I think they just saw vice might crime as well
It does make sense to invade here. It's just
who he's still being in the bush and seeing him kind of ruins this. Yeah, which, which is like to be fair, you, he was right there.
He was there and used to be tracking support, which is why I was kind of like, yeah, I was kind of, it does.
Obviously, it's a mistake. I'm not defending the play. It does. I understand why Cryer did that. I don't think every Leona would still be there.
And, you know, he probably just, it's a small adjustment. I think just walking to the bush and see if Leon is there, right? Yeah, yeah, definitely.
And yeah, you also have to know like who you're playing against and give who he credit because who he's been playing super well
Go ahead, did you or you just don't lines to stay with you because Nami could just yeah
You didn't need to record at least until you check the check the surrounding area. I I would say as far as
Call me though his first couple games of the series were good and it's here's a bit of cope is that
that this series was a large underperformance from DSG with, I think, both Lyons and Callme,
because I had been very positive on Callme.
He had a really-
I thought the Calle game was really good.
Did you think his Nivea game was good?
I thought that was good.
I thought his Nivea was very useful.
So there are a lot of fights where, yeah, which is good.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is good.
I was just laughing at the word.
It was very useful.
There are so many, so many times when, uh, you know, he's put, he's, he's zoning people out.
He's pushing people off.
And so it doesn't look like super smurf, but it is very useful.
Uh, and so I thought that was like, that was a pretty good game and he's had
multiple good of calling games.
So the cope is that this was under performance and that DSG will look better
than this series in the series versus team liquid.
Yeah.
It's still definitely an uphill battle for them for sure.
Yep.
I did want to mention from their series though. I thought Darkwing's had a pretty solid performance
And I really like the Vega they pulled out that seemed so strong granted
It kind of felt like call me hasn't played against this champion before since on a lot of the place
He was just getting you know walked up engaged
If that thing does have deceptively big range and it's kind of hard to know the timing of Jacqueline becomes active
But obviously if you're playing against it in a pro match, you should probably know those things
So he was swift marching on him. There's movespeed diff. Well, I mean the first play there's no boots involved and
The heat he tries to use the already does fast feet
He tries to use the RAW to get out of the cage and immediately gets you know clapped
So yeah, anyways, definitely
It it still was a five game series. Yeah, but it came away with
feeling
Less impressive than DSG has been so far this year since they have been you know surprisingly
You know overperforming people's expectations and so I think that's why this one did feel a bit bad
Yeah, and I think I think for me. I'm just a little bit worried
I mean, it's it's a big question how lines is gonna bounce back because I think lines is like I said previous to this played pretty
Well for DSG I still would have favored core against him
I think who he was the biggest gap in the series like support cap was crazy
I think who he had a really really good series we can focus on that more when we talk about the sentinel series
That's gonna be played, but um like lions versus core. I'm a bit worried for that
You know even even some of the decisions he made on this barred game where it was like
He was just constantly basing and who he was doing this stuff that I thought was really really smart
Where you don't see a lot of people do it where he was?
on Omricon and he would go between the tier one and the tier two and stack the wave so the wave was
always pushing away from Sujet and Lyons was on a base timer for 95% of this game so Sujet is
just standing afk at his tower he can't even farm the wave or walk up and it was like it's not like
he's missing cs and it wasn't like he was shamed dying and he was down like 40 cs early because
the wave is always pushed away from him like they could never walk up with it with his support so
I felt like who he super, super gap bought and when you talk to pros, the bot lane 2v2 that
people are most scared of generally is Core and Yon. And so I'm pretty concerned for how
the laning could go for DSG there and how Lions will kind of perform out of lane. I think, you
know, they're going to have to have like a strong series like individually from all the DSG members
to be able to compete with TL. That being said, TL to me there, downfall has been more like less
individual stuff and more like team players right where it's like they talked
about this on on the coaches episode of pros which you guys can go check out
jab did with I will dominate and an arrow and golden glue and they kind of
were like joking a bit about quid where you know golden was saying like the
further he gets ahead it was think are not not an error not an error
I mean they have too much cloud nine think are of course and yeah golden
was joking about how you know when quick gets further ahead like he always would get nervous
because he's going to like do the monster throw and and although I'm saying the same thing about
bliver like he gets weaker the stronger he gets but I feel like that has been true with with
TL this year where it's like the game can look really really good for a long time and then
there's just like what is happening here and then they lose the game. I I couldn't get past the early
a slight flame that you had with the, because it was so funny. Cause I have an AD carry friend
that said almost the exact same thing one time about his support when you were like,
lions was on a base timer for 95% of the game. And you said it so casually as you're just
moving through this long like steam roll of an explanation, but I, I just got off on
that because my friend did the same flame like, I don't know, two weeks ago or something
where he was like, is my tab bugged?
Like my support is a hundred percent base timer.
Like, where is this guy?
But I thought it was so funny.
You just casually flew that way.
But like that is how it feels a lot of time.
Yeah.
From the 80 carry perspective, you're like, where is this guy?
What is he doing?
And you don't see anything positive popping up on your, your feed.
You know, there's no like, oh, you know, enemy has been slain with a
assist from your support roaming with jungler or something.
Especially when their support is behind your tower, freezing the wave on you for like the fifth time.
Is my time bugged?
I don't know, that was so funny because my friend literally said the same thing.
Yeah, um, not where you want to be.
Yes, 80 Gary.
Yeah, cause the he ended up with a crazy CS difference.
Really?
He was down like 40 early.
And there wasn't a bunch that he could do about it.
But again, I, I, I, uh, basically this, this whole series, I was like, Oh my God,
Who he is smurfing, we got to give like player the series to who he yeah and like trying to find ways to put who he highlights in there because not only was he doing those smart things, you know, the overstay on top side, you know, pulling the wave, but he was also hitting like four person Nico Oats over and over and multiple person engages and doing really intelligent like flanks and stuff.
So he was owning.
Yeah, he was he was he was looking quite good.
I feel like, yeah, I have this feeling that, you know, the the wheels are gonna
kind of like fall off a bit for some of our kind of like Cinderella stories and
that Lion and TL will have fixed some issues and be really strong in the lower
brackets like that's kind of like what I'm feeling. I'm hoping that it's not
just completely true and that everything doesn't just go straight back to
expectation because it's been really fun seeing fly and DSG kind of like be a
surprise and that's that's made the match a lot more unpredictable so I'm
I'm hoping this is going to be a really fun series,
hoping it to be competitive, but my gut feeling
is after seeing some of the individual
underperformances from the DSG members,
that if they have that kind of series,
the individual talent on TL would just make it that,
like the game is Omega over super early.
And so that is my big concern.
That is kind of why I'm favoring TL right now,
is I just think, if you give that level of performance,
I just think you're down 10K and the game's cooked.
Yeah, I think that they should be able to smash
particular early game because I think they have lane advantages, maybe not top lane, but I think
all lanes, even top lane also. I mean, Castle have a lot of respect for, and I think he's been
consistent as well. But honestly, I think they're going to have lane advantages every lane, and
Jose has been playing very aggressively with winning lanes, and I thought, especially at the
beginning quite effectively.
So I foresee there being a lot of like crushing early games,
whether or not DSG can hold out and like weather the storm
and then maybe they draft some good like scaling
and team fighting and stuff.
Maybe there's some good angles there
because that's how they have gotten some of their good wins
is looking for mid and late game, you know,
play as a team, five person like working on synergy
and trying to go for some team fights there.
But yeah, I think pretty much everybody will probably still give advantage to TL, especially for some early game.
Yeah, DSG, what would need to happen for them to win would just be some good drafts and I think play into their team play.
Because I do think their teamwork is likely better than TL's from what we've seen so far.
Obviously individually, they'll probably fall behind, but I think they've had pretty good cohesion coordination.
And then on flip side, maybe if the game starts going bad for TL, they get a little bit desperate,
a little bit frantic and perhaps they don't.
But I don't think I super likely, I think, uh, I would predict probably TL 3.0.
Okay.
So you were talking about the Cinderella stories.
The next one is another possible ending for a Cinderella story where it has been
really fun following the fly quest Cinderella story where there's skyrocketed at the top.
all the young stars having some fun.
Griffin has just been amazing in all the interviews
and their gameplay in all of the series
where they didn't play Cloud9 was very exciting
and very effective.
When the ones where they did play Cloud9,
which was two series in a row,
back to back, it was less effective,
very much less effective.
And we talked a lot about Blabber and how good Cloud9 are right now.
Are they playing Cloud9?
They're not playing Cloud9 now.
So the question will be, is the same going to be true here for Lion?
Because Lion is very similar to all the things we're listing about Team Liquid.
High expectations, lots of money spent, very good individual players.
That is all true of the Lion roster.
This is another, like, you would label it a super team, you know,
just off paper and just off, you know, putting, putting this squad together is this team going
to be able to end the, the fly quest kind of fairy tale where the, the young players
have had more early success than people thought they were going to have. They have just received
back to back lessons. You could look at it from at the hands of cloud nine. I think harsh
left. I, I, yeah, I was, I, I mentioned this in the, the second series, but I was like,
I feel like we're getting like a seat in the classroom where they're like, you know, teaching a lot of the fly quest younger players, especially blabber, you kind of teaching Griffin some things.
So how quickly can they pick it up? How quickly can they learn? How quickly can they improve from the losses that they received at the hands of cloud nine think card who was on the pros episode was talking about how, oh, I think it was actually good.
You know, to, to get these games versus cloud nine, they're the definitive best team.
And I think we learned a lot from them.
So now we get to put to the test how good is your week of practice after, um, you
know, uh, receiving the lessons, I guess, and can you put it into effect versus inspired?
You know, it's, it's interesting because you talk about the lessons and I almost
thought you were going to go the other direction where I was looking at it from
the point of view of it's not just fly quest that's getting this lesson.
Lion can watch and see the C9 game plan that worked really effectively in
Five out of six of the games that they played against them were stomps, right?
They all three games in this last weekend
3-0 were stomps and two out of the three in the best three were giga stomps
And so it's like if I'm lion I go I'm sitting there and I'm watching this series
I'm saying like how can we replicate this right and then that becomes kind of the question of like can you replicate?
C9's game plan and kind of put that in into effect a lot of it was about
about abusing Griffin on pros, you know, they talked about,
oh, like we wanted to prioritize Anbesa early
because like Griffin's crazy on Anbesa.
You can take that away from him and like limit his jungle pool
because he's not as comfortable
on some of these champs and stuff.
And it's like, okay, these are things that, you know,
maybe the lion can try to emulate and kind of learn from
because it wasn't as though like C9 didn't have any errors.
Their bot, their bot 2v2 was losing like every game.
Like they got with two winning lanes,
They had winning lane in game one and in game two,
and they got 2v2 killed in both of them
by a FlyQuest bot lane.
So FlyQuest bot lane, I do think, is a bright spot,
but C9's team play was so much better,
and C9's play around their jungle was so much better,
and it's like, so even though Zven and Vulcan
with winning lanes got 2v2 killed both times
in the first two games, then C9 would like
have a fight around Crab or whatever,
and Zven would get kills and get plates,
and he would just always be way ahead.
So it never actually mattered.
Um, so I mean, if I'm lying, I'm just trying to study this series and say, like,
all right, how can we actually emulate this and try to do the same things to, uh,
to Griffin and to fly quest that C nine just did.
It would be very hard, I think.
And I would be a little bit worried for fly quest because on one hand
it, they did get a lesson from C nine, but on the other hand, this, this
reminded me of the lesson you get as a North American team going in and
playing in security.
It was that level of gap between the teams because even though the games were pretty one-sided in game two
I actually thought fly quests were in a pretty good spot to win
They had a crazy scaling comp with they had the azir
Scion and C9 started falling behind there. They kind of were playing a comp or you have to just stack dragons to win the game
But they started fumbling and I thought okay fly quest is just gonna win this because they've got massive scaling advantage, but
But C9 managed to get back into the game in a way that I feel like no other team would do, which was basically just playing with tempo very well.
They set up the map extremely quickly and then FlyQuest were just just a little bit uncoordinated with their entire team, which I think against most teams, you're not getting punished that hard for that, you know, your support
be a little bit late on his recall, getting back on the map, but the two plays in particular that
game was one where Griffin was on Trundle, he walked not even that far out, just at his raptors
after they got their second dragon. At his raptors, he didn't even walk into the bush behind red,
he just pinked on the raptors, and then he gets vikued over the wall and killed,
and that's just from C9 setting up so quickly, and I don't think most teams can do that. It's
very hard for players to sort of buy into this team play tempo aspect thing of, you know,
hey, we just need to understand that we have to pressure them at the same time.
That's going to mean sometimes you're going to recall and not have your perfect buy.
You have to not grade this wave. You have to be here at the right time.
That's really hard for teams to do. So I don't know if all the teams are going to be able to
replicate that. And the other, you know, time, I believe, I assume that you're talking about,
is another blabber plate. I thought the one on silent. Yeah. Yeah.
Blabber starts up this dragon. He has a ward in the bush that's like right on the curve.
Well, he was hitting the crab.
He was he was if it's the one that I'm thinking.
So the one I'm thinking is he's on the crab.
The crab is one HP.
Sion walks into the bush and starts.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's right.
Yeah. So he's not he's queuing him.
And I feel like every team there, 99 out of 100 times,
Flabberg just uses that full charge Q, takes the crab, backs up, but because C9 are so decisive, he just Q's Sion and then ults him.
And if all of FlyQuest were there, or if Azir TP'd in a more reasonable spot, I actually think FlyQuest can fight this and win it, but they just didn't expect C9 to engage so decisively.
And so, we saw this really questionable TP from Quad where he went from mid lane to bot lane.
it almost is far away from the fight as he was already.
And so he couldn't join.
And then the game kind of just fell apart from there.
Yeah, that's the one where I'm like,
Blabberman so many of these snap initiation plays
and guaranteed they are talking about this ahead of time.
It was too coordinated with everybody else.
APA is always right behind him to Leo Wall
into seismic shove combos.
And you can tell like, he's not even looking at the crab.
You're like, yeah, your champion is like auto attacking it,
but he's like waiting for this guy to come
and immediately turns back around.
And then the other one, he had another queue
that wasn't the queue flash over the red wall,
but he had another snap initiation,
queue charge, flash into the river.
Like there, especially APM Blabber.
I feel like these two, I really want to highlight Cloud9
and look at the series from Cloud9's perspective
because I feel like we have not had a mid-jungle
like push timings like this as heavily as Blaber and APA
are doing together in a while.
And it is really refreshing.
Like they are playing for each other so, so effectively,
I feel like.
And it's kind of what we even talked about
at the beginning of the year when we're like,
oh, dream scenario.
Hey, APA might be able to feel like a niskey role.
And he like plays for jungle a lot.
And he's probably gonna be a really good fit
Blaber and that is materializing I feel like in this year already and especially on these champions
that APA is very effective on Taliyah, super super good Taliyah and it's a champ that roams really
well and plays for other champs really well and then this whole series you know they were they
were banning throwing a lot of bans at APA and then he just goes the Galio game also which you're
not like oh yeah that's the APA Galio but he was extremely effective on that as well he flashed
to the river fight, the early crab fight. He was like, yep, I'm here. He got him a multi person
taunt, both him and, uh, uh, you know, quad tried to flash in to be there for their junglers,
but APA had the bigger effect with the, um, you know, the big a we taunt and they got the
win off that. And it's just like, I feel like APA and blabber are delivering us this energy that
we dreamed of. That's true. But it was just laughing because we were talking about the lion
and flag was serious. We were talking about the cloud nine and, uh, uh, uh, perspective
as well. I just feel like, you know, they're, they're number one team. That's what I was
looking at from their perspective.
Yeah. They're perspective is work great. Yeah.
It is going to be hard for lying to replicate that. I think it's, I know how we got started
on that because, uh, I don't think the thing is not the same player as APA. I think that
Saint is very much the player who wants to be the star.
He wants all the resources.
I don't think he's the guy who's going to be leaving his lane at awkward
timings and flash engaging a fight.
So I don't think lion's going to be going for that exact same kind of win
con, but I do think for lion versus fly that lion has, you know, really strong
laners.
They've got berserker bot lane.
They've got st mid inspired jungle.
So I think that in itself is pretty hard to deal with for fly.
They just, they don't have the same mid jungle synergy though.
No, they don't, not at all.
They almost have the inverse of it.
You know, I feel like inspired and say are they're both individual good players.
I mean, Saint has not been having good individual performances in some of these,
but like, and they are certainly do not have synergy.
No, I agree.
And like when I talk about like the cloud nine plan, I guess I don't necessarily
see why and it's like, okay, we're going to beat cloud nine more.
just like inspired going into this thinking about how can I abuse grift in an early game, right?
And that's kind of like more where my head was at with that stuff because I felt like Blaber
across these two series got significant early game advantages to really smart path against
stuff and that's something that I think inspired can do as well. Inspired is a much more risk a
verse player, but I also do give inspired credit and think that he is someone who can pretty much
execute on like whatever role he is given whatever role he thinks is best like this is a guy who's
who's really good at playing aggressively, who's really good at playing, you know, more
scaling and defensive style. So, you know, I could see this series going a similar way,
like a similar way as far as dominance level, just because inspired, you know,
Turbograf's Griffin. But that being said, yeah, Saint is the real other, other part of it where
I think Saint has really been struggling. And Saint, you look at lying games and that is kind
of like Delphin in the room is that he has thrown a massive amount of games just like on his own,
just from being in bad spots or or getting caught. Some some of them aren't necessarily all his fault.
Like, you know, you could say, okay, maybe the team is telling him to keep pushing in that Orianna
Nocturne game. So maybe that's not his fault. There's the one he got caught where there was the
vision bug. So that one, you know, maybe, you know, but but it's it's a consistent pattern. He often
gets caught even with summoners up. He's not flashing and dying. I remember this this Gallio
Tom the Gallio Taunt on Salih where he's like, he just slowly walks up to him and taunts him and
And he just doesn't flash like that guy's not even moving full speed. He's channeling his taunt
Yep, so that that is definitely a big concern
As far as how they'll perform because while they do have really really strong individual players
We also seen some kind of craziness from berserker and stuff, too
So I feel like yeah, that's what I feel like the series is gonna be a lot closer than the the C9 one and
And even though Fly just got blasted by C9,
I don't know, I'm kind of still feeling like I favor them.
I kind of am still feeling like I think
they might actually win.
I've been really impressed with Masu and Cryogen's 2v2.
I think they're playing really, really well.
And if they can hold up against Berserker and Isles,
I feel like Saint has shown that he makes a lot of mistakes.
I think that Doka has not been having
his greatest season either.
And inspired, it feels like he wants to play the game
in a very different way maybe than the rest of his teams.
So like I think even though FlyQuest made a lot of mistakes
and did get completely blasted by Cloud9,
I just don't think, you know, Lion is on that same level.
So one thing I need to point out about FlyQuest
that was driving me genuinely crazy watching them
is Masu's champion pool and what they've been giving him,
whether it's his decision or the teams,
I think is so questionable.
Basically, the top three AD carries for most regions of the world are Kaisa, Unara, Korki,
and he hasn't played any of those a single time.
I think he's played four games of Jhin, which he's lost three of.
He's playing Aphelios, Ezreal.
He picked Sion and Callista before he picked Kaisa.
To me, that's just criminal behavior.
I don't know why you're putting this insane AD carry player on Sion.
How are we putting him on a tank?
I think Flagler needs to figure out their drafts,
because I do think they're a good team,
but with the stuff they're picking, it's just bad.
I really don't get it what angle they're coming from.
Maybe they feel like he needs to be
on some lane dominant thing.
They have to win lane or something like that.
And he doesn't want to-
And he plays Naisa.
Naisa is one of his most played all the time.
Yeah, but usually what people say with this champion is,
oh, we'll hurt lane phases,
we don't want to lose pressure bot or something like that.
So super questionable.
I think that they'll look a lot better if they can just pick some height to your bot lane champs and actually let Mausik carry.
Yeah, I know a lot of people were pretty critical of some of their drafts online, especially I think the Callista game was one that a lot of people were criticizing.
Because they kind of did this like full on like super aggressive, send it type comp and they drafted, I think Aurora and Octurne with like basically nothing showing on the other side, right?
Like so it wasn't as though they were like they had seen the full draft and they were
responding to it.
They just kind of like, yep, we're doing this.
And they had this Aurora Nocturne that was like really, really early picked to my recollection.
I think those were their first two when they had only seen Orianna.
I think that was like the only thing in the draft they had seen.
And then they did, you know, Kali, Callista.
And so it was like really, really short range, really, really aggressive.
I even thought like maybe I'm just like misunderstanding how they were trying to use the Renata, but
Like, Renata obviously is a great pairing with Kalista.
Um, but I felt like Renata to me struggles when you were playing against a comp that is, that is like kiting back, right?
Renata is so good at dive.
And it's like, yes, you can have the other side of the argument where it's like, oh, we're going to dive.
And then you just like throw the Renata ult over the top and it creates chaos or whatever.
But it moves so slow that I find that rarely works out.
So to me, even like the Renata didn't super fit where it was like, the other team clearly wants to disengage Nocturne,
to call E. Colista, like Aurora, like, and kite back. And so I
don't know. I thought that draft was going to be really,
really tough to execute on. When I interviewed ThinkGuard for
the sideline interview, he said that basically they just like
wanted Lane Brio, and like, that's what they were trying to
kind of go for. But I know I saw a lot of people pretty critical
of that draft online.
Well, we should get to, well, actually, we should do the
predictions and then get to the next one because we only have
14 minutes to our next meeting. What are I sounds like you're
going fly?
Yeah, I think I think I'm gonna go fly. I mean I could be good wrong, but I'm kind of feeling
I
Still want to buy in to this lion team
I'm gonna I'm gonna say lion 3 2 I think it's gonna be close both of these teams are kind of coming back from tough spots
I think
Fly quest just kind of true beating by C9
back to back. And I think when you're one of these new teams, confidence and momentum is a big thing.
And they're not going to have a lot of that. So I think, especially for rookie players, it might be hard to bounce back.
And then Lyon on the flip side, you know, kind of expected a mental boom and seeing some cracks showing already.
So I don't know, I don't think it's going to be one sided, but I think Lyon has experienced advantage.
experience advantage, and I think just like what's drafts are not doing it for me.
Yeah, I think I'm just going to bank on Lyon pulling it together for best of fives here
and inspire to inspire just leading the way.
But yeah, also think it's going to be close.
All right, next one.
Yep.
Sentinels cloud nine.
Good luck, Sentinels.
Yeah, I think that's kind of how it feels right now.
It's like we talk about, oh, maybe TL and Lyon will get back to form.
Well, cloud nine is very informed.
They just won. It was one of the fastest best of fives in LCS history. I think it was like
4th or 5th fastest. I mean, the total game time was ridiculously short. All three games
were under 30 minutes. Two of them were 25 minute games for Nexus explosions. In a day
and age where a lot of people are saying the game actually got slower, that's pretty crazy.
So they are looking incredibly good. Sentinels, I do think, Kuhi was a super standout. I think
who he was amazing for them.
We talked a lot about those two different series,
but I really struggle to build an argument
for why I think Sentinels would be the better team
in this series as far as team play.
I can talk about individual things
and talk about how maybe they could get some advantages
here or there, but C9 has been so good as a unit.
Like you guys talked a lot about how decisive they are
as a mid-jungle, and I think how they play around bot lane
is really, really good.
Even Wenz and Vulcan have gotten behind.
So it just feels like that is the struggle for me
to try to like build a case
for how Sentinels could actually win.
Yeah, I just think Cloud9 are easily going to be able
to identify Sentinels, WinCons,
and Sentinels, WinCons are, we got to play to Rahel,
we got to play to bottom lane.
Like we have impact as our top laner.
Who is definitely playing better than last year?
Yeah, much better.
But because last year was really rough.
but he's still filling the same role.
So it's good that he is playing better this year,
but I just feel like it's such an easy way to be like,
all right, Blabber Air and APA are going to be able
to overperform Hombok and Darkwings
in playing to bottom side.
I think mid-jungle, both playing to bottom side,
very, very easily for them.
Like APA is playing all these roaming champions
in mid lane and set up champions.
And I just feel like if they attack Rahel
and Rahel doesn't have a bunch of money,
then I don't see sense in those winning.
I think, honestly, I'm predicting 3-0 for this series.
Yeah, I think it's probably the most reasonable guess.
Probably what's gonna happen, I would also say 3-0.
C9 just looks pretty untouchable right now.
And knowing this roster, you know,
a lot of these players have played together.
we've seen C9 have periods of dominance.
And usually it kind of stops on their own terms, right?
They start drafting.
They're worst enemies themselves.
Yeah, they start drafting some sketchy stuff.
They start going for really weird looking plays.
Honestly, their biggest problem is that they just win
too much and they lose sight of what's good
and they start doing crazy drafts.
But maybe with I Will Dominate at the helm,
it's not gonna do that this time
because they've looked great and I would love to see them continue the dominance all the way to the end.
I just like seeing teams that play the way they are, you know, very aggressive, very, just very dominant in the game.
It's just so hard to play against them. As soon as they get an inch, they just take everything.
So it's super fun to watch and I hope they can keep it up.
I think, I don't know how Sentinel is going to deal with that. I think they're just trying to run over.
One of the things that I can't help but kind of think about a lot and laugh about a little bit is,
You guys have obviously focused a ton on APA and Blabber and like how good their synergy is and how well they play together and like I completely agree and then I don't know if you guys heard the the comms listenings for sentinels on the other side, but like a couple of weeks ago who he was on on the analyst desk and he was talking about how yeah, like they'll speak Korean except for for Darkwings and he's talking English and he's doing a lot of translation, but it's like, but we're going to move towards more and more English so that you know Darkwings can be more involved in the midst of the game.
And so he can understand what's happening. Well, we heard the cons listenings at the end of the day
They did like a comms listen
it was like a highlight role of the whole series and they did like you know kind of all their winning moments and
I want to say across the five games. There was like three words of English in the cons listenings and
It's like full Korean and the Dark Wings is like
I'm on a Bessa and then it's you know, like like he's just playing solo queue, right?
So it's like when you talk about how coordinated this mid jungler is on the other side
How can you expect that from dark wings when he doesn't even know what they're saying, right?
Like why should four Koreans have to learn English instead of one American learning there?
There you go. And who he already speaks both and so he's having to do a lot of translation translation
And I know Golden Glue gave who he a really big shout out for that which I think is super deserved because
just the cognitive load of doing that and still playing individually super well is just why
I have, you know, a lot of respect for, for who he's one of these older players and playing for a very long time.
And I think he said, you know, playing, playing super well, while also shot calling in multiple languages is pretty crazy to me.
But that being said, when you have to go through a translator and like a third person for some of these things, there's not time for that.
We had the clip at the beginning of the year, one of the first games that Sentinels played to Lea Pantion combo, super bread and butter, easy combo.
Easy combo, you know, Hombok flashes in to get his pantheon stun.
Darkwing's is like half a screen away, not in range for the seismic show
fall off.
And so like, there's not time to be like, you know, so it's, it's
definitely going to be a struggle there.
Also, then it's also versus impact.
Who's your money on there?
Like that's, especially if it's an isolated lane, if both teams
theoretically do play the bottom side and like jungle showing a lot
and stuff. And then it tells us is like, all right, both jungles are bottom lane time to get to work.
Old man, this was saying that on the C9 podcast that I listened to, they had a narrow and Vulcan
and then it was on this week. And he was talking about how he's talking about his favorite changes
how people can't lane so off the way and stuff. And like, and he's like impact place for his team.
I play for my lane. It's like, you know, I'm going to be the reason we win. And it's not like
like talking about how you really wanted to get a player, the player, the game. Um,
and the, the NAR one, he's like, Oh, like if the NAR game went on longer, I would've
got play on him for sure. Like he like had the counter pick and I solo killed him, but
like, I don't have enough time. And they're joking about how like, if they, if they, if
they get too ahead on the other side of map, they have to let the other team get away.
So it's just going to have more time and try to get a player of the game.
I like how the cloud nine members, they're at that level where they're dominating so
much. They're just having fun with a lot of these things. Cause they were also, they
also on the analyst desk, like they're always talking about, Oh, APA robbed me this week.
And then, you know, I rubbed this guy that week or whatever. So it's, they're all fighting
to be the best, I guess. Yeah.
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to disguise.
What?
That's crazy.
That is a surprise.
This is why you can't have me do these things.
It was a very big 3-0.
Yeah, I feel like that has just
been the case in both Europe and
North America.
Like, there is a shark in the
waters if you're a lower seed
team.
Because we had expectations for
Team Liquid for, of course,
line.
You know, that might be a sneak
peek for later on today.
But then obviously G2, a G2
stonk corp.
Like, MQI did incredibly well.
Now we have a situation here.
If you see a lower number, think that they will actually win.
So the real strategy is to enter the start.
Exactly.
Unless you're Cloud9.
Oh, no, they're doomed.
Their number is actually working pretty well for them.
Yeah, for now.
I mean, it's been fun to watch.
FlyQuest, though, did get absolutely destroyed by Cloud9,
speaking of Cloud9.
They got crushed.
And Griffin had been having some pretty big early game struggles.
But this was just one of the fastest best of fives we have actually ever seen.
Yeah, like the big takeaway here for me was like AC9 choosing FlyQuest again,
making it very clear that it was basically just a good read that they had on the jungle.
And I felt like FlyQuest was constantly taking flips, flips that they just didn't have the resources for.
Either like Quad wasn't there on time because he was like taking a base, but they took the flip anyways.
Something was there where now it just feels like they are completely red in their heads.
it was really rough to watch from FlyQuest's perspective.
Yeah, you could tell that C9, like, having faced them recently,
I'm pretty sure it was Enero who talked about how they just wanted to choose the opponent
that they'd already faced and they were super comfortable against them,
but they had just beat them.
I think that was also on full display.
They really understood what FlyQuest were going to do whenever FlyQuest did try to flip
even the earliest objectives, like first crab, you know, C9 were able to take advantage of that.
of that. So now it's, okay, this, this Black West team has been so fun to watch.
They're such a young roster. How did they bounce back?
Exactly. And I think one of the major problems they had in that series against
C9 was some of the early games, oh, it's dropping. All right. Was, was some of the
early games from Griffin here against, against Blaber. He was really struggling,
it felt like. And as a result, you know, they're constantly getting behind. Ooh, it
looks like we're not actually on the clip. We're not on the right clip here. Let's
Let's see, it's not that one, it should be this one.
All right, so I wanted to go through all three games.
Blabber's able to get some pretty big early game
advantages, so we're just gonna roll this one out.
This was a very fast clear from Blabber.
He has already done a full six hand clear,
and then he knows he's gonna be a lot faster than Griffin,
so what he's gonna do is actually just wrap around
into this brush right here,
and he's going to wait for Griffin.
So Griffin comes down, he sees, all right,
no one at the Scuttle, this means
Blabber's gotta be topside, right?
So I'm just gonna go straight into the Scuttle,
Blabber just jumps on him, everyone collapses in,
You can see APA is going to come in from the side right here.
Vulcan is making his move really, really quickly as well.
Cloud9 collapse, really great packing from Blavir
in his first game.
He gets behind Griffin, surprises him,
and is able to punish him.
This game, this is actually pre-the second set of Scuttle spawns.
But because Blavir soloed out the dragon
and got the additional XP, he was already level 6,
immediately goes and ganks bot.
Well, Griffin was actually over there on the Scuttle, right?
So he was going for that Scuttle,
trying to get level 6 on Trundle,
whereas Blavir just preamps the play,
goes straight down, gets a kill there.
Now, this is that final game.
Again, Blaber, you know, first to the play,
everyone collapsing from Cloud9.
And these early game fights always were going their way.
You know, Blaber was able to kind of just flash back.
APA comes in on the roam.
He's then involved in our both here.
And Masu was kind of like sectioned off on the side.
So he had a harder time actually getting involved
in this fight, but they're able to push forward.
They're able to knock down Griffin.
They're able to take out Cryogen.
They're able to kill Masu as well off the back of this.
And this was really like a constant theme
throughout the series was just choices
that Blavver was making and his coordination with C9
really enabling them.
And I feel like when you're coming into the series as Lion,
you have clearly watched everything that just happened.
There's back-to-back series between these two teams.
And I didn't even touch on the games in the previous series,
where there was so much discussion,
when you think back to that Nocturne game,
the level one kind of deciding in, all these early games.
So it's like, inspired will have watched all these.
FlyQuest needs to have a better plan
around how they're going to play the early game,
how they're going to deal with Invades,
how they're going to deal with some of the intelligent jungle
pathing that we can expect to come out from inspired as well.
Completely agree.
And I mean, even in that last clip,
like just thinking about the fight and the execution
that you covered, just like, do you
want to take a flip on that fight when you're a colleague is
in base?
Like they had taken that base and you're taking a 4B3.
And that is something that you should just
be looking at review and wondering if we are not
in position for it, should we be taking these fights?
Team Liquid, the team that just played yesterday,
is really good at being able to recognize,
we don't want to take this fight.
Let's just not do it.
It doesn't make sense for us.
We'll just play the longer game, and I think it puts us in a better position.
Yeah, and then for FlyQuest, I think Griffin was such a huge part of when they were doing well early.
So now it's like, OK, what can we learn from this?
Because I do think a lot of these things are really, really teachable moments if you go back and review.
So that is the big question to me, especially with Griffin having been such a huge part of their wins.
How do we regroup and kind of,
what do we focus on as the lessons learned,
especially around early pathing
and just the early game in general?
It's gonna be really important.
I know the big topic is we're gonna be talking
about the jungle matchup a little bit,
just knowing that if you're having troubles
versus somebody like Blobber,
you're definitely gonna be having trouble
versus that is more methodical
and hates flipping situations like inspired.
But I wanna remind people like how Fly looked
at the beginning because our judgment
and our view of FlyQuest has been
when they faced against C9, literally two series in a row.
And yes, when you're facing the best team
within the league, you look extremely bad.
But before that, when they're facing the rest,
the opponents, they have one against LeBron,
one on one against Raz, two against Raz.
Exactly.
You ain't losing it.
You ain't losing to LeBron, you're losing to Raz.
That's all that's about we were thinking.
Exactly.
And so like, I think all of the caveats are out there.
I think the one question in my mind
is even though they've been really doing well
versus the other opponents.
The other opponents in question is like,
DSG and Shopify Rebellion.
So how good really is this team?
Because when you go through the Swiss stage,
like that you're being judged off different metrics.
Yeah, I think the big thing that stood out to me there
was major deficit, right?
Because until then, even when FlyQuest made mistakes,
they managed to keep like pretty, pretty close
with their opponents.
And I think it's a credit to C9 in terms of
how they were able to snowball,
especially off of a lot of the early game flips
that BiQuest tended to go for.
But I think for FlyQuest specifically,
one thing I've just really enjoyed about them
in so many of their wins is, A,
just how well they were playing around bot lane
and how well Mausoo and Cryogen were able
to kind of pair up together and take over on that bot side.
And then how creative they could be
in terms of their draft and also approaching fights
with Griffin.
So we've seen the early power be taken out of that by C9.
I wanna see how they can add it back in
to try to contest Inspired or Lion.
The fear that I have is that
when FlyQuest gets their leads early on
in their prior series, the pre-C9 series,
those weren't necessarily clean games at all.
Like they still make really bad errors
and that's because they're a really scrappy team
that wants to take flips and wants to take scraps.
You're going up against Inspired
that once again hates that when it happens to his own teams.
Like he wants you to have a methodical game
that has intention, all of that.
And he's had now a week break basically,
two weeks necessarily, to be able to sort that out
within his team.
So I think this team is stylistically
a really tough team for FlyQuest to face against.
Yeah, and I mean, it's not like lying to be clean either.
Yeah.
I have some clips that I have pulled now.
First she's welcoming us in, now she's giving us a movie.
Yeah, what's going on here?
It's wonderful.
We're gonna go over to this.
I feel like the first one, everyone is going to know if you've seen this game, what is coming.
But in case you don't know, after they're kind of posturing here, Lyon are going to
look for a play on to Sujad with the Taliyah wall here as we just played through.
It's not going to go well.
This is a little bit more also some individual mistakes that I think Saint has been having
ends up getting taunted, has to flash over the wall,
loses over half of his health, which
makes it easy for them to come in and kill him,
unfortunately.
So this is where I feel like a little bit more coordination
and also fewer individual mistakes would have
led to better results for them.
In this play, I did want to point out a rough play,
better play, and then a little bit more
coordination because I feel like they've had both. Here they're going to be looking to make a play
onto call me and I really love the combo of the enivia wall that's going to come in with the
trundle pillar right here. So as we play that through, enivia wall goes down, trundle pillar
goes down. I thought inspired pillars were really, really good in this game and then docla is going
to come across and make a play onto call me. Here, this is from another game. I'm going to back it up
little bit. Here this is like a soft
contest around the Herald. The big thing
for me that was pretty rough for this
was the fact that we have Jocala down
here with no TP right? So if he is
going to if we're gonna have a matching
TP from the Jace in this fight he's not
going to be able to match it. They're
going to make for a play on to Lyons.
Lyons is going to be able to get out by
By flashing over this wall after the Herald has even been taken, Inspire gets bubbled,
Doku is not able to stop the TP from coming through, Kolmy is able to join the fight,
St. Dive despite hitting a really nice Cassiopeia ult, and this leads to them dropping the Herald
almost immediately, getting not only this first turret, but also even more turret plates
onto Sujed off of the second turret as well.
And so we've seen like a lot of different problems and like good plays from Lyon and
it's just like, okay, which Lyon is going to show up essentially, right?
Like how coordinated are they going to be and are their players making some individual
mistakes?
Yeah, that is the most confusing part because coming into this year, I felt like when they
built this roster, they built this roster like a super team.
like you had Saint, who was like a thriving young rookie, right?
And then you built basically two MVPs around them.
So a question that we want to ask you guys in the chat is Lion a super team?
Are they a super team?
Because a lot of times the definition can change by like having big brand names or performing
players.
And in my mind, I thought they were a super team because you just brought in an MVP in
Berserker.
You have an MVP and inspired and Saint was an incredibly strong individual player last
year, but he's not showing it this year.
Yeah, I know some people are on opposite sides of it.
Because some people are like, well, can it be a super team?
Iles doesn't have that same kind of brand name.
Maybe Doku doesn't have that same kind of brand name.
But to me, the intent was clearly
to build a super team because you're
bringing in the most sought after player in the West.
Yes.
In my understanding, he's the highest paid player
in all of the West.
You're bringing in the MVP, multiple-time MVP.
You're bringing in Berzerker, who was an MVP in this league
as well.
Yes.
You're pairing that up with State, who
is this really highly touted prospect.
So the boats are coming in too.
It's interesting, you know, because I can see how
the performance maybe doesn't do that,
but I think the intent was to build a super team.
The intent from Lyon, from everything I've heard,
was we're putting together a roster
that will be the best in the LCS and we will win.
And to me, that's kind of like the definition
of trying to build a super team.
Yeah, I was gonna say, I think my definition
is just different because I'm really pedantic
about the super team like Moniker in terms of,
I feel like all the players across the board
kind of have to be big names.
I feel like we haven't seen a lot of like true super teams,
like we were able to in the past.
And a lot of that actually,
I think just has to do with like contract and salary.
But the thing I will agree with,
despite the fact that I wouldn't call them a super team,
is that Lyon had very specific reasoning
for building this roster look.
You know what, Saint is still really, really good.
He's fired former MVP, best jungler in the LCS.
We're going to add back Berserker,
who we've talked about, despite the fact that he was on a bad team,
especially in the beginning of LCK last year,
was playing really, really well individually.
And then, obviously, they had some toppling issues, too,
with Zemudo, unfortunately.
We also had the announcement the other day
where he wasn't able to get the visa,
and now is no longer on the team.
But that, to me, shows that, at least,
regardless of whether you want to apply the Superteam name,
there was a lot of intent and good intent around building
this roster the way it was.
Yeah, I mean, you pretty much, in a way,
like encapsulated the thought that pre-split
Griffin had about this team.
Because it's like, yes, this is pre-split,
the interview that he had with me here.
Go check it out on this channel if you can.
But like the idea is like, if you're going into a mindset
of like you can't beat anyone, then it's just done.
But even though I think Inspired is the best jungle,
he perceived that, probably still does to this day.
Like that team has a lot of question marks,
because of course you can look towards
the talent across the board.
Top lane was a big question mark.
I mean, Dokgle came in that not the intended top laner,
probably not the top laner that they were practicing in Korea
with.
And in the bot lane, you have Iles, even Berserker,
of course, like the time that he had on DNF is something
you probably want to forget.
So it's like the question marks are there, especially
with the ideal, like this team might boom at some point.
But I feel like that is still relevant to this day.
I definitely think it is.
And I mean, I think as a jungler,
you have to have high confidence.
I think it really is just as any player,
you have to have a lot of confidence.
But especially when you're jungling
against someone that you really respect.
You think this guy's the best jungler in the league,
and you're giving him too much respect,
like you've kind of already lost, right?
Because as a jungler,
you are working with imperfect information, right?
You're having to make a lot of assumptions,
you're having to make guesses on what they will do,
what they will spend their time on, where they will be,
and if you just assume that they are always
making the correct play,
I can't get caught because he's gonna be in the brush.
I can't go top because then he'll take the dragon.
You know, like if you're already in that mindset,
you're already losing, right?
And I think that that is why it is so important
for a young player like Griffin to have that confidence
and hopefully he can still maintain the confidence
after kind of getting ran by Blabber
in two series in a row.
And honestly, you need to get ran in the way that you did
to be able to learn.
Because the fact that he's just like,
basically just ramming his head into every Skellop Crab
and it not working, those are just video evidence
that you can look back
rather than basically never making the play at all.
Exactly.
You need to have that moment
if you want to be seen as an underdog.
But also just like,
if you never really take those actions
then you never really learn.
I feel like you've probably had the most growing period in the last two series you can't have so it is it's gonna be fun to see
It will and I mean inspired you're playing now against like last you know
He is the former jungle that Griffin is obviously been brought in for but inspired had so much success, you know with like West
He had won new trophies he got international and going into worlds last year
We're talking about them is like can they finally take down an LPL big LPL or else in KT because they've been closed in best of five series
multiple times. Against top level teams in the world. Five games against Gen.G. Five games against the LPL.
It did not end up being that fairytale story where they would win, but four titles, two MVPs, two first team all-pros, an insane win rate.
A player of the year as well. Put that in there.
73% win rate across that many games is actually insane.
It's wild. I mean, this is what he was essentially brought in for. I mean, you have a player that found that
success when he was on Evil Geniuses.
I feel like any team with him on it might be considered super.
That's all you need!
Obviously, there are also pedantic about what a super team is.
A super team just needs a superman.
But, as we know, it did not end well for Inspired on FlyQuest, as we saw from the documentary
that was released by them, immediately after World.
Because you guys have all NPCs and me and Whitfall are wanting to win,
so we will tell you exactly what to do on stage.
But I want you to be ready to scrims.
Because you guys are f***ing NPCs!
Just make a decision!
I don't care for the winning.
I never said that.
Yeah, I mean, I do think that what happened in the video,
I don't really get it.
I think that's what it takes to win.
and I also think that no one really takes it too personally.
I also think that it was kind of a weird situation for us.
I was pretty disappointed in how we were doing,
because we were together as a team for two years.
At this point, it was our fourth international,
and I still didn't feel like it was changing much.
If I like every international we're going to felt kind of similar.
That's why I got a bit frustrated that we didn't really do better
than other before tournaments.
But I still would do the same, probably,
if I was in that situation.
I think, yeah, that's what it takes to win.
And if someone has a different approach, then command me
and beat me, and then we will talk about it, so, yeah.
I can definitely respect that perspective,
because at the end of the day,
you do have to have those hard conversations.
Like, did you need to approach it in that exact way?
No, you could probably approach it a little bit better way.
But you do need to be able to give harsh criticism
and honest feedback in these situations.
And it's going to get a little bit heated,
especially when you go international,
talk to any player who's gone international.
You are going to get ran and scrimmed sometimes
by the very best teams in the world.
It is going to get frustrating.
You have to be able to work through that.
And it's fire to someone who's going to say it like he sees it.
And I just love the ending of that being basically,
hey, if you have a different viewpoint,
beat me and shove me.
Because that is just the reality
of how strong he is as a player
and that he wants to demand.
and you will always get honesty from him,
and that's something you will value as a team.
It really is, and I got to actually interview
Inspired earlier in the day to get his thoughts
on facing his former team.
Hello, I'm here with Inspired,
ahead of your matchup against Black West.
You just told me you have never played
against a former team before,
so you are gonna be going up against Black West
team you spent quite a bit of time with,
had a lot of success with.
How does that feel?
It's pretty exciting.
I don't know how it's going to feel on the rift, I mean, it feels weird to play against a team you know so well.
And there are three players I've played with for a while, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
So, since you've played with, especially, you know, Masu and Quad for a long time,
do you feel like there's, you know, certain things that you could maybe take advantage of,
you're thinking about, ah, like, I always hated it when Quad did this, like,
a weakness that could take advantage of of Masu or anything like that,
that you're thinking about when you're going into a snatch up?
No, not really, honestly.
I mean, I know how they play, but they just play well, so it's like, there's nothing specific
that you can take advantage of.
Yeah, I think Masters just doesn't like when not much is happening, so you for sure make
stuff happen in the game on the map.
That's cool.
So since you are playing against some of your former friends, your former teammates, whatever,
or current friends, I guess, how do you think that changes the dynamic?
Do you feel like going into it?
You're like, okay, I really want to kill Masu, I really want to kill Quad, or like, you know,
I gotta let him know that I'm the better jungler, you know, they're missing out.
Like, you can have any of that kind of dynamic with them.
I mean, not really, I just want to, I don't really want to, like, get kills on them.
I'd rather just kill them next to us.
I think I'm fine doing zero kills as long as we win.
So, I don't really think about killing Masu or Quad.
I just want to win.
So, even if it's the E-Kitten gameplay, you're playing Ivern, you're going 0-0-16.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, sounds good.
Well, best of luck, inspired.
I'm looking forward to the game today.
On the prize, I just want to go to the next six.
I respect it, man.
True.
I like the idea of like, Masa just
does not like the game going slow.
I did like it the way he snuck in there,
just because so many LCS teams, we've
been all about like ganking that 2v2 bot lane,
or like how can we can affect that 2v2 bot lane.
And you know, Masa and Cryogen, they've
been known for stepping a little far forward.
It's the idea of not having faced your former team before.
That is a unique thing for how long of a career
that he's had going into playing in Europe,
playing in North America for the long time that he's had.
It is a weird feeling that he has not had that yet.
And it sounds weird, but he actually broke it down for me
when I was like, oh, how is it going to be going
into your form teams?
Well, I've never done that before.
I was like, huh?
And he goes, well, after Rogue, I came to NA.
And after EG, EG boomed.
It was a new org.
So he had never actually played in his former org.
He's like, I've played against lots of players
I used to play with, but never a former org.
So that's a new experience for him.
It is for sure unique that he doesn't have that feeling of like,
I want to be in my old team.
Because every other player we talk to definitely has that feeling.
Not necessarily like, I want to kill this guy.
It's like, I want to show that I was the reason that we won.
So it's nice to be able to have that mentality, because it definitely you,
I think we need to be able to go back to every kind of matchup
in which you're facing your former team.
Because they'll either play worse than they usually do,
because they're overthinking it.
But to have that sense of clarity,
you need it in a lose-back bracket match look.
Absolutely.
I mean, I think it's fired looking to prove something.
But I think Masu, on the other side,
is looking to prove something.
A lot of people, I feel like, were thinking, you know what?
Buccio's gone.
This bot lane from FlyQuest, it's not
going to be very good anymore.
Cryogen, I think, was the least hyped addition
to the team as well.
But I feel like they are absolutely killing it.
And I want to talk about their 2v2 as a bot lane,
because I don't know if this is going to be considered hot take.
I think they are the best laning 2v2 right now
in the league and I want to draw some attention to that give them some credit.
So this is from the series is going to be all three games against C9.
Yes, their team did get blown out.
But this is, you know, pretty losing 2v2 matchup.
They're playing the gym Alistar.
They're going up against Niko as well as the Corky.
So this is considered a losing 2v2, but they've taken a couple of good trades.
They've whittled them down a little bit and we're going to start to watch through
how they played out some of these lanes to get some really good advantages.
This is Ben, just a split second too far forward.
They're going to get a really big chunk in on to Sven through the barrier, but the wave
is crashing.
It's a cannon wave.
Sven decides, you know what, I think we can defend the dive.
We still have heal on Vulcan.
I'm not going to actually look to base, but I really love how they set this up.
You can see that it's going to be the Alistar on the minimap.
He's going to be moving up to try to get a little bit of vision behind them.
Sven is trying to play behind Vulcan to try to play this pretty carefully.
And what Mosov is going to do is he's actually going to get that fourth shot ready to prep
dive here in onto Sven so the ward has been placed over on the mini map and look
at this he doesn't rush it because Vulcan knows he wants to get him rooted up
and peel for him immediately so before he actually lets this 4 shot rip he
waits out most of the root and then right as the root is about to expire look
at that root expires barrier Q 4th shot gets then incredibly low then pulls back
didn't take the early tower aggro and cryogen who's on spellbook ghost here is
is just going to be able to pop the trample and ghost in on his then take him out.
I feel like this was really well played in the 2v2 in a losing matchup.
Very nicely done. So that's that first game they get a kill here.
This one, let's be honest, it's more of a C9 mistake, but again,
putting themselves in a position to actually capitalize.
They're playing, you know, this scaling matchup.
They're again in what Vulcan was calling a losing matchup.
Vulcan hits a bubble here in onto Masu.
And this is where it is going to be more of that mistake from Sven,
where he gets polymorphed up and then coming out of the polymorph,
you're going to notice he dashes right in, goes too close,
going to get knocked up by the wild growth.
Then comes that ulti with the white gun
that he's just going to kind of get trained down.
Then definitely could have played this differently.
But again, it is a well-played 2v2 from FlyQuest.
They got three-ohed, but back-to-back games,
2v2 kills in this bot lane.
And it's not just this series that they did.
They did a bunch of other series.
This game, there wasn't a 2v2 kill,
but this is, again, using their priority bot.
Zven thinks that they've based.
They actually lost some skirmishes down around bot side.
And even in the last game, Zven even
had first blood going into that fight,
but they still kill them off.
This time it's just a good trap
that they've laid here for his van.
They catch him as he's trying to push out the way,
thinking that they are on a base timing,
gets that 2v1 kill.
And this is something they've done really consistently,
I think, throughout the entire season.
People really do remember
that affiliate stretch game that they played,
where they were getting tons of 2v2 kills,
but I feel like they have just been performing
at such a high level in the 2v2,
which is something I just wasn't expecting.
I thought Crygen was gonna need more time.
I thought they were gonna need more time to gel.
Things have not been perfect for them by all means,
you know, especially outside of lane and in a lot of these games, they were losing
services on bot side, but like they're actually 2v2 laning. Damn, they're really
good, really fast. Yeah, and it makes things particularly tough for a lion
because I actually think a bright spot for them has been their bot lane.
Obviously, I know part of it was they did go up against, you know, substitute
bot lane in Dignitas as you see, but the way they were able to take advantage of
so many of these 2v2s was really, really nice to see from berserkers like
first game back, right? And I think overall Berserker and Iles have actually been performing
pretty well for them. With the bot lane focus, I feel like it's definitely something that Lion can
kind of rely on as a potential strong point in the map, which is particularly tough now going
up against Flyclist because I actually fully agree that, you know, Fly's bot lane has been their
strength. But here are some stats, and like I was kind of surprised when I was looking this up,
how high these two were in a lot of statistics in the LCS
as a duo lane, because I feel like with Lyon's kind of
struggles compared to expectations,
especially with the names on this roster,
like we already talked about,
they've quietly been incredibly solid for the team.
Yeah, I completely agree with that.
I think this team was built to really be able to play
through their bot lane.
If they're not playing through their bot lane,
they're going to struggle,
because I think that they were really not built towards
playing towards top side at all.
Saint has been failing a little bit, a lot actually.
So bot lane has to be it.
So that's why, for my predictions,
that I just have it going for Lyon.
And I have it going for Lyon 3-1.
I think they're a team that really needed the break.
I think they're a team that has an exceptional jungler
that will play through it pretty frequently.
So I have it going for Lyon 3-1.
Oh, you speak agreement with me.
No, mine was actually supposed to be a fly quest.
Oh, you told me before.
I'll be honest.
That's a graphic mistake.
I said 3-1 fly quest.
Because I think, so I agree, I actually do think,
like I said, Lions bot lane, great thing for them
to play around and inspired still really creative,
great jungler.
However, I really, really like what
FlyQuest have been doing.
I think they have a willingness to go in
and a really good synergy that thus far, Lion lack.
So going into this, that's why I did favor FlyQuest
because I felt like from what I'd seen from both teams,
FlyQuest were just moving a lot more as a team.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the only thing for me to add is I think Lions mistakes are less early game and more a lot of throws late game.
And we don't have any more time to talk about this. So let's start the show.
Hello, and welcome back to the Riot Games Arena,
where Super Week continues with another elimination,
best of five.
Up first, FlyQuest are looking fresh with a rebuilt roster,
but they'll need to learn from their recent losses
to continue their tournament lives.
Their opponent, a lion yet to find its claws
with pressure mounting, this would-be super team,
needs to find their footing now.
Two teams enter the elimination series,
one continues through the bracket.
Lion vs. FlyQuest starts right now.
And to me, the biggest story is inspired
against his former team.
They accomplished so much together on FlyQuest.
Now, he's not going up against all four of his former teammates,
but it's his former org, his former mid laner,
and his former AD carry.
I was really hoping that we'd get a little bit more
out of the interview today.
Yeah, he was just like, you know,
I just want to win versus them,
and they're both just good players.
They play well.
The little tiniest card there.
The tiniest kernel that he gave was that sometimes Masu gets bored and creates action. Relatable.
That is not always the best aspect of an AD carry. So we'll see. Masu, I think, though,
as an individual, this split has been performing extremely well. It's really been a big carry
force for FlyQuest, and the bottom lane definitely will be a big topic here as we get into the
series.
And I think he's been working so well with his rookie support cryogen coming in. They've
They've been smashing a lot of their lanes, C9 series aside, but even there, they still
had a couple of really highlight moments as they was talking about during the pre-show.
So I think bot lane for the side of FlyQuest, absolutely.
But I also want to talk about Lyon, because they're on a different type of pressure.
FlyQuest, I think we're on general, like lower on the power rankings.
They had a lot of new players coming in.
We weren't sure where to put them.
Lyon, they spent big.
They got a flashy roster.
They also find themselves in the lower bracket.
Absolutely.
like when you sign inspired last year's player of the year and then you also bring Berserker
a former LCS MVP back to the LCS your expectations immediately get very high and I think FlyQuest
reset the expectations by going with such a young roster but then when they did win those
first two series put high expectations on themselves kind of right away so both these
teams will have pressure in this elimination best of five.
And a big topic has been the solo lanes, especially for Lyon.
So starting this draft out here with what I foresee to be an Orianna Azir trade, there's
always other angles you can go for, of course.
Like if you really want to attack the Orianna in a different way, but that is simply the
most common.
We'll see if Lyon end up taking that for Saints.
But you kind of favor Quad and Gakos actually as individual solo laners going into this
Inspired being on Nocturne though, I always do really like Nocturne compositions with crazy engage. Nico and Nocturne already turned out the lights and
Nico guaranteed engages here. So very very strong way to attack a low mobility carry like Orianna. So clearly line
Expecting this and trying to set up something to attack it with pretty good denial pit
But I'll also say the saint has zero as your games in 2026
Even though it was highly played by him last year
He was one and four on so technically in the last two years. He's got one as year wins, so I wouldn't
Scouting him as a fly quest side. Also the axe there if you just slant early by now. It's been a
Duo that we've seen increasing priority on throughout the globe
Yizir would make a lot of sense, especially with the Akali ban kind of pushing him more towards that trade
Standard picks, but just you know st. Goin for a second is here when in the last two years
He's trying.
When you put it that way.
I'm less confident suddenly. I'm really liking what FlyQuest put together with these three though.
The Nocturne denial for the Orianna, the knock wave combo will be there, but still Niko Nocturne's great.
I just don't see exactly what the rest of what Lyon is trying to do with this is here.
It's a flexible pick, but like I see clear identity with FlyQuest's side.
Great team fight tools and kiteback potential.
When does CLG play, Kobe?
I was just asking.
Two-Soon, Kangus.
Two-Soon.
It's two-Soon to make those jokes, actually.
Give me another five-year sign removed.
Give me another five-years.
No, I think I love Ash Serafine Bottom Lane, so getting some very, very strong lane-based
out of Massimo Kravgen.
Again, this is something that we are all talking about, coming into the series, and I like
where their heads are at.
The other big topic of course, as we get a couple more, I consider Mundo a jungle band
at the moment, as we do get some jungle bands here.
Big topic is Griffin, and people I think are overreacting to FlyQuest and Griffin just
getting blasted by Cloud9 at the hands of Blabber.
That being said, it's not an easier jungle of Hody here.
got inspired to MVP of the entire league. So we'll see how he holds up. These are
clearly two targeted Griffin fans here. You know, the Volleybearer is still very
much viable with the dusk and dawn, despite the individual nerfs there to the champion.
And still, you know, can be said that it's flexible to top lane. It could be. I'd say
Griffin's had a different champion pool than most. He's definitely played more
unique champions than anyone else on his team so it also makes sense that Lyon would be throwing
against him because he and Vesa ban even could be a ban director at Griffin as well. Jin makes
sense into something like Ash Seraphine. I think it is difficult to pick an actual winning lane
against Ash Seraphine so if he is able to add a little bit of long-range CC that can help the
Nocturne in this year swoop in and get some excuse on the two squishies. Also saving counter pick here
for Dokla, who so far has had a less than stellar performance.
When we looked at the kind of would-be super team for Lyon,
I was definitely expecting more out of the top laner like Dokla.
He's going to be playing into Sion as that's locked in here
for Gakos.
Very good scaling team fight here for Fly Quest.
They've got huge front to back set up for themselves.
Let's see.
Kerry Jungler kind of expected, but you also
need some good ball delivery for the Orianna.
Okay, so you know technically you can technically you can do scion jungle as well
So these two are swappable both Quinn and scion. This is really interesting
Yeah, it happens with a lot of tops and jungles now because they keep adding monster modifiers to all these top laners
So either of those could be swapped
You know
I'm jungle keeps having this really high win rate, but I just feel like it's probably awful
I have some good lore actually. I played scion jungle first inspired in the show match when we had to be
We had to be in Mordecai, we had to be Nasa's champions.
Yeah.
And the other one.
Okay.
Oh.
Scion Jungle is not bad.
You can stack up your Soul Furnace really, really quickly off of Jungle Camps.
But since it's a Renekton, just throw the Scion up there.
I mean Jungle Gwen makes the most sense for Griffin.
It's something you can farm fast and try and carry with.
Use that Dusk and Dawn power with the champion.
Even with Gwen getting targeted with some nerfs, of course, afterwards.
So there we go.
So what do we think then about overall strength of these compositions?
I still really like what FlyQuest have put together. I feel like it's going to be really effective front-to-back teamfighting.
With Lyon, I've seen more kind of sneaky picks. The Nocturne, the Niko Ultimate, Flanking, Renekton.
It's going to be more an execution from my perspective.
I think it hinges on how well some of the early stages of the game go for Lyon.
If they have enough damage to actually make these quick engages result in kills.
If they have enough damage for a Nocturne Niko engage to result in lethal kills,
then I think it's fine. But if you get to the point where it's like,
wow, there's a BP sign standing in front of us and there's a Seraphine on that team,
and they're all five together and you're trying to like crack into this crazy strong like set up
front to back five on five. FlyQuest definitely have a pretty good option there. Lots of heals
and shields on that team.
Bird of execution for Lyon, where
FlyQuest drafting a front-to-back team composition.
Pressure's on for both of these teams.
A loss means elimination from lock-in tournament.
A win means you continue through the lower bracket
for two orgs and two teams that have high expectations
and high goals for themselves.
Lyon versus FlyQuest begins right now.
This is fun.
We get to see if this fly quest like Cinderella story where they had so much success at the beginning of lock-in
If they did they actually turn back into a pumpkin or was it just cloud nine beating them a bunch?
That's gonna be a question. Oh, so they were the carriage in this I'm nice beat them in half of the games that we've had in this
Whole lock-in one for four weeks. They beat them four times
but I think the big story still is inspired and all the success he had on fly quest and then
and FlyQuest really breaking apart
and just kind of going all over the globe this year.
Kind of a where are they now?
Because we know inspired here online,
trying to make this team work,
trying to get back to that LCS championship
form the FlyQuest had in 2025.
Quad and Mossus sticking around on FlyQuest.
I feel like they were the two most
lowly rated players on FlyQuest.
When people were talking about this team preseason,
they have a lot to prove as well.
They're also two of the most like soft spoken
pro players that we do have, you know, so they didn't really put themselves out there a lot.
I think Masu has done a good job recently with, you know, doing a lot more interviews and,
you know, getting his opinions out there. But I honestly feel like his consistent play has been,
has really been a highlight. So we'll see if Masu and Quad can show inspired that it was
not the correct choice to leave them. And I'm really curious how much these lanes end up fist
fighting early because the lounge did a great job talking about how Moscow and
Prodigy were playing so aggressive but Berserker-Ils have some of the best
laning stats of all the bot lanes that we've seen as well but then on the other
side Dokla is a player who hasn't necessarily been laning that well needs
to really push the tempo on Gakos but then we have two full farming junglers so
how much of the lane is really going to be battle? Well I would say that if you look at the match ups
Dokla is playing renecdent in the scion so should be completely fine early and
he should have an early CSB.
How much is he going to be pushing the lead?
It's kind of the question I'm seeing.
I mean, he just went for a heavy trade there.
Gakos is in threat of just getting popped right now
if he missteps against Sarenekton.
So they've got pushing lanes for both sides,
which is this early game that we're
going to have a close magnifying glass on for Lyon.
Bottom lane, able to get their push in,
able to get their recall off here for the extra call
for Masu, or excuse me, boots picked up for Masu.
the cold picked up for Berserker off of their recall and reset here.
Meanwhile, Doughla just keeping the pressure up on Gakos on the top side,
but should be able to get his recall off with a fairly decent buy and not really
be in trouble. Here comes inspired for his first visit.
Has the nocturne coming in from the flank.
Griffin is nearby to pops the ghost and will push inspired off of his mid laner.
So junglers will just high five in the mid lane.
That is a summoner spell advantage technically for inspired though,
because ghost was popped by Griffin.
It's actually a slight efficiency boost for inspired as well.
He did a rafter start, whereas Griffin did the traditional buff start into clearing down.
So, Inspire is actually going to clear a couple more camps and probably end up going
with a level 5 recall and have a little bit more gold on this first stat.
First full clear plus three games.
Yeah, that's why he pulled off the play so quickly.
You can see as soon as he sees this, Gwen, I'm out of here.
Just like walking away.
Doesn't care about it.
I all need to get into the rest of finishing the clear.
and Griffin onto the Krugs at the moment. So Inspire does have a lone time here
versus shop though. His other previous teammates. He's channeling the back right
now so looks like he's gonna complete that as Lanzar cryogen onto Isle some
good chunk. Inspire did accomplish so much on this FlyQuest team though. Team
accomplishments but also individual accomplishments so he spent two full
years on this FlyQuest org, winning time and time again.
I mean, we can look right here, second place in spring,
and then pretty much all championships.
Split one, rough little best of three loss
that they had over in Brazil, other than that
total domination, but individual 72% win rate,
two MSIs, two Worlds, two MVPs, two first team all pros,
and four titles, just an incredible two-year run for him.
Yeah, FlyQuest really did dominate for several years there.
So it was a huge huge blow to the region honestly when the when the team blew up last year
And when they were unable to accomplish their goals at Worlds and you know as we saw on the the original graphic them kind of
Taking their separate paths and going their own ways afterwards
It's always fun to check back in and see see who is going to land on their feet
And it's tough for you know
Inspired to leave that strong Ross reply voice. You see all those accolades he had and so far has not replicated that online yet
They are in the lower bracket. We haven't really seen the team come together even if individually. I'm so impressed with inspired's play
And I do since it's a pretty slow game. We want to we need to bring this up
Griffin has eight crab guests in 2026 Kobe. There's only been 11 games
But it does actually look like he's changing. He's not even contesting the top
Well, it's because the you know the the top crab here is wait a second
Are they doing anything besides stealing away raptors? Okay, I just love six now
The top crab is less significant because the dragon's on bomb side, but they're camping here to wait for inspired come back to oh
But he's actually some trouble it was spotted out inspired guest it and now grip it
It's not a crap death, but it is still a death around the objective first blood picked up by Lyon
So it's kind of crab adjacent. Yeah. Yeah, cuz of the top crab inspired got level six off of the top crab
And that led to his death because he got ulted on in there. Do we add?
Is this like a 0.5? No, I think I think that's an arrow
What is Jack doing? Why is he writing this so bad, Joby? Joby, learn how to use the Telstra to do that.
You know, he blames it on me. Here's what, you know, it's actually a raptor death.
Saints going in for his own 1v1 right now and Percivite on the quad trying to find the 1v1
Shockwave used defensively quads trying to get out of there has to flash as well bot lane meanwhile
Masu gets flashed out of Berserker as graduate will block the deadly flourish so action in two lanes as
Kobe will learn how to use the prompter soon. You're turning against me also. You're backing up this propaganda
And picks up a second kill for the team
I mean this game has turned in Lions favor based off of
Inspired using his level six timing and then also since they had really pushed Griffin back to base used his ghost to laid his farm
Then the lanes just kind of went to town. So this is just straight up to be to outplay here
Not only did they get the early advantage in this lane by pushing Masu back to base early
It means berserker can ping level six first as soon as he sits level six
They just open up crowd gin would have had to dodge two more after that if he'd used his flash and berserker does a great job getting that kill
Nice.
That is, that is the experience of, you know, the mid laner that wasn't really involved
in either of the kills, you know?
This, I mean, he got the credit for the kill open around the wall, but the, the bottom
side kill, I mean, this game is basically level six timer, the difference.
Yes.
Actually, yeah, that's a good point.
But it is fly quest regardless of losing those two kills going from the dragon early.
Lion do have a couple members nearby, but inspired has five seconds on his ultimate fly quest dragons at 1500
Should be able to smite and walk away, but inspire does have the old now
Do they go for the paranoid play he goes in has seen right behind him aisles running up as well in comes the azir
They have the damage for the kill and it's Griffin that goes down this time inspired with the kill credit inspired definitely trying to carry on
on Blabber's string of punishment on Griffin
from the last two best of series they've played,
shutting him down.
Interesting with these two team compositions,
it's very important the FlyQuest gets the Drake,
but Lyon is doing a really good job
playing around in Spires all-timers.
That's two for two on all two kills.
Now Dopla goes for a heavy trade onto Gakos,
pops the Dominus, as Gakos will get back to the safety
of his turret, so no kill there from the Renekton.
I
Just feel I feel bad for Griffin, but I mean they walked in they tried to make their play on the respawn on Raptors
But you don't you don't mess with inspired jungle timers like that. Yeah, he's not gonna let you steal away
Camp just because the crab was on the top side and it just
The game is only just begun and yet I already feel like my for my conclusion is already like it's gonna be the same thing
that like it's actually the pumpkin of fly quest to two over a two thousand gold lead only nine minutes into the game
Yeah, and it happened in a very similar way where it is jungle focused and there's attacking Griffin over and over again
And he picked I mean no one's played jungle when in the LCS so far you need dusk and dawn before you're really effective
I mean you're a carry champion. You need farm in general too
Yeah, so and I also think like he was just trying to get his farm. He's saying, okay
He's taking top crab. Let me do something else
But the problem with playing against inspired is he knows what something else is if you're not contesting this top crab
Where else is it gonna be and they found a perfect and also its communication there with their bottom lane?
You know it was like it's not just them collapsing inspired is communicating with his teammates. Hey defend this camp yep
And and they do get it so yeah, it makes the game pretty hard for fly quest, but I guess
You can say they can still try and stick to the game plan of hey
We are going to look to play up our synergy as a five on five comp. You know, we have seraphine. We have Orianna shields
We have a really beefy front line
And so we're still gonna try and get as much money as we can into the Gwen and Orianna and Ash and
We'll still try and group up. We did see at least Scriven's getting objectives
He got the dragon even if he does he gets the three grub
So he is still being active on the map regardless of inspired kind of shutting him down in the early game. Yeah
active active active yeah we like active junglers right now is doklah might see some action on top side here the side
Old goes in lands the first knockup will follow up with a decimating smash Griffin is there for the damage
You know where it comes through dunk with the has the the dominance and will pop it
Heels as he rushes away flash to safety and doklah does get out of there inspired thinking about a counter play here
Low health bars on two members. He just jumps past the scion straight on the grip in
Another kill to Inspired, Flash out from Gakos, and he gets back to the turret, but Inspired just continually punishing Griffin.
Yeah, the other thing is that Nocturne is one of the best, uh, you know, like, responding type Dumbledore.
Bottom side, dude, let me go!
Oh my god!
Flash on the both, Rue follow up on Amosu, Berserker's trying to get that damage in, and in comes the midlaner.
Flash over the arrow from Sait! Shuffle on Amosu, but he's under the turret!
He's gonna be taking up a lot of damage.
Masu sets up Quad for the shutdown.
His berserker is now gonna look at Cryogen in the alcove.
We'll pick that one up one for one trade in the bot lane.
Almost a perfect play by Lyon and St. There.
Use the flash.
Think that made all the adrenaline just fire off.
And he brought out the turret, did damage.
He sits in the turret and dies to Quad's Orianna.
But it is really just inspired dominating Griffin here.
And it's, well, it's a bit of this a little more, too,
bottom line is going to dominate. Yeah they are. So the two former MVP's doing some work.
Make them things happen. We're going to watch this play one more time. This is all started by
Saint, facing, teleporting, knowing that they can make a play off the Niko Ultimate. Flash is over
it, insane timing, but then goes a little too far back from the scoop. Then monster flashes back in,
Orianna ball arrives from Quad and it makes it a bit more of an even tree. Yeah, I mean
I mean, I've got IELTS deserves so much credit here for this Niko ult, getting both of them on the edge and then barely surviving there kind of kiting away too.
I'm still alive.
Ah, not gonna sound enough or long, it wasn't. What's the timestamp on that?
Yeah, honestly, it looked funny if you looked at Perzurker during that because he clearly like, oh, you know, we got our two kills here like we done in the bottom lane.
But then he sees St. Undertower and he turns around and he's like well, okay, I guess I'll try to follow up and
So if there's a little bit of like comic relief, I think in this in this game that was needed because it was so one-sided
Griffin might be trying again, but I mean in Spartan here again back to back right now in goes Griffin positive
He'll work immediate paranoia
Responds inspired is on Griffin like butter on toast. It's gonna be two kills picked up by lion
He's locked in. Yeah. Yeah, I'm telling you this even maybe lane struggling guys. That's another Rome Berserker walking up from bottom lane Saint with the scoop quad goes down eight to one for lion.
My quest are the youngest roster in the LCS that we have had in a very, very, very long time. And the kids are just getting beat up on the rift today.
So they were actually by average age the youngest tier one roster this year at the start of the year and
It's it's showing up a little bit in this game
I will say a lot of their losses as ugly as this looks right now have followed a somewhat similar trajectory because if you take
This game as an example after Griffin gives up that first kill
They have the Orianna scion Ash Seraphine and the nocturne can countergank any move Griffin makes yep
You kind of need to stop making moves like you needed to be patient
but Griffin always seems to want to try and win the game back in the next fight.
And it's just sending them further and further behind.
Another thing is that Inspired is a really good Nocturne player
because he always remains efficient and he almost never gives away his position.
So it makes it hard when you're like, yeah, OK, I are we just supposed
to never make moves now because we don't know where Inspired is.
So you have to. That is what he'd like you to think.
So you have to assume that he's everywhere. Yeah. Right.
So you're like, well, I don't see Inspired.
So he's probably going to counter me.
Turns out yes two out of two times he was there at the actually three out of three times
Yep, he was exactly there. They spotted him there. They know that inspired stop side currently
Yeah, yeah, can we keep that tracking going? I don't think it's likely unfortunately
Yeah, he's just been a menace so far and is getting a massive lead into jungle 1k individual lead for inspired right now
And yeah, I gotta say I mean I was super impressed with Griffin in his debut
He had very aggressive jungle style, but then now last week or last two weeks rather against blabber this week
It's inspired has been struggling much more to actually find these windows
We're seeing some of the weaknesses of these young junglers coming in these young players getting punished by the vets
Yeah, I mean inspired and blabber didn't get to the top of the jungle food chain by chance
Right these guys have been working for a long time and been recognized many many years
as being some of the best junglers so very very tough competition for Griffin
and for FlyQuest but it is resulting in a very one-sided match and that dream of
oh but look at our comp you know like is getting pretty far out of reach. It is
it is but objective bounties can be very sweet they were on for a second it looks
like they just turned off but even the individual bounties inspired will be
worth about 800 gold to whoever kills him.
If he ends up going too deep and makes a mistake,
Dusk and Dawn is completed.
It's one of these games where 90% of the time,
line's going to win.
But I would say in this season, more than other seasons,
I've seen more games slingshot backwards.
So yeah, I mean, even just yesterday,
we almost saw DSG kind of slingshot Team Liquid.
But it's still going to be difficult.
I don't want to say, like, oh, yeah,
like there's a great chance for FlyQuest to bounce back here.
They got to find that avenue or find a way
to slow the game down.
Either way could work.
Getting that first dragon will naturally slow down the dragon soul timer for Lyon, but it could be a while until they're really comfortable to contest at these other objectives.
But we got two and a half minutes until that one right now.
Game could slow down a little bit more unless Lyon want to be the one to make action happen right now.
Do you think state's going to build proto belt second on his ear?
No.
Why did you ask that?
Because Choby started building proto belt on everything, including his ear.
Okay, and then last night his opponent built it second on a zero
Okay, it's just like if chobi does it and you're especially someone who comes from LCK CL
Why not do what chobi does? Oh, that's a good point actually. That's a good argument
Yeah
And also you could do it in a game where your team is already all five and a half gago
That's a little bit extra range. It's AP health gaste item not that bad. It's cheap 2650. Okay down
You can go further under the turret next time
No, then you can throw it out from the turret.
Yeah, there you go. There you go.
You know, let's ask the audience.
Do we think Stain's going to build Rocket Bells this game?
Is it happening?
We can answer chat.
Rocket Bells this year?
I don't think so.
No, they're not.
They're not.
They're not chubby Stains.
Okay.
They're not chubby Stains.
Yeah, I wonder what Chat's saying.
Maybe we can get a poll up of will he build that or not.
Right now, Docla is the target here for FlyQuest, though.
They have multiple members nearby.
Inspired is still hovering.
It would be a 3v2.
As Doku will just pop the Dominus right away to clear out the wave.
Yeah, also prevents a possible dive.
Inspired would have been there on Nocturne as well.
Definitely Lyon trying to play the control game.
This is the type of game that Inspire would like to play.
Only take the winning fights, farm as many minions as you can between those winning fights,
and then kill the Nexus.
I think that is the type of game that most people would like to play.
I would like to play that type of game, where I'm just winning.
Yeah?
Yeah!
Seems ideal.
I don't know what most of your games go though.
It's very calm now from the side of Lyon,
since they have such a large lead to leverage.
All you have to do is work off objective timers.
40 seconds on the next dragon.
They go over to that.
FlyQuest have a very difficult time stepping up to it.
Then you can move right on over to the other side of the map,
take down these side lane powers.
Jet, I see your point at the rocket belt on Isles
does not count.
That is not on his ears.
Neeko, that's a normal one to hide.
I was actually wanting to point out that the
I don't think the Zercher cuts through the shields.
I'm pointing at Zilklah right now. The arrow goes wide.
He's able to dodge that. One flashes the wall
and gets away from the attempted gank.
That is not going to work out for Griffin right there.
Left either.
And again, Dragon's coming up in five seconds.
So this feels like a play that FlyQuest was trying to send
and the topside while they expected Lion
to be sending up for this dragon.
Yeah, which I think is correct. You know, trying to play a
Cross Mat play while the enemy
while the enemy takes a dragon that you know you can't fight so don't play
in flight plus we're going for that play unfortunately for them it doesn't
result in anything but you can't really fight this dragon anyway because of the
large gold lead here saint is sitting on 3200 gold so he has enough to buy any
I can watch so he can watch out for you yet well he had enough money for it so
maybe he just you're at the store yeah 3200 and Sunford and you have all the
money in your pocket the budget options you know it's like you can add
something that costs 5% more on your total order once you spend it enough. Like that's a typical
sales trick, you know? Yeah. Alright, well that is a second dragon now picked up here,
eventually for a lion. As I actually know it's going to be paranoia. Popped a bot side instead,
inspired in 1v1 right now and he likes those odds. He will just slaughter Quad all on his own on a rampage.
See, I bet you that felt good. He said he wouldn't care about killing Quad.
Oh, okay, yep. What if he's a solo kill Quad in the side lane?
It's gotta feel nice. I like that. I like that assessment right there
I expect them to just go straight to the dragon, but no instead they go for the play now
They'll get the dragon as docla finds gakos under turret right now
He's trying to get the damage on him instead of going for the wave gakos has flash available
And also that's Griffin in his back pocket now
They just turned back on the docla slices away dices back in he still fancies the solo kill won't find it gakos is out of there
But maybe to get grip band
Niles roams all the way up, pop blasts him, stunned on the Griffin, and it's Sate with the kill credit.
0-5 for Griffin, Lyon with their 10th kill as a team.
Yeah, BigDokes had a spear of Sojin completed there, and had the early Black Cleaver as well, so she's shred that scion no problem.
Ah, yeah. Say something nice, Kobe.
Lyon are looking really good today.
I agree. For what it's worth, both team Liquid and Lyon had very high pre-season hype, didn't
deliver in the first three weeks of Swiss, but it's hard to make a full judgment on a
team based off of three early weeks when everyone's coming in with these delays, not having
that much time practicing together. Now, there's two weeks that both of these teams have had
to kind of train in their time chamber. This is more the Lyon that people would expect to
see.
So, question for you, Ann Chat. Is that the earliest Baron that we've had in the LCS?
I'm going to check with stats.
way and we'll find it we have had a we have had a decent amount of one-sided
games so I bet you TL for shop five had an early burn that's my go-ahead that is
a very fast bear is the highest goal of the 20 though 7.4,000 it feels like the
highest goal yeah so this is my I'm going through it feels kind of like
deja vu was like the games where cloud nine were stomping fly quest I because I
I felt bad during those ones also, and it was very similar, you know, it's like, oh,
you know, Blabber invades Griffin.
This time it was, you know, Griffin actually joined to go invade inspired and mess with
his camps.
But it was kind of similar, you know, and then they continued to attack the jungle and
then there's no leverage there for FlyQuest.
So I don't know.
And the biggest weakness of this FlyQuest team is playing with the deficit, right?
Even the games that they won early on in the season against Shopify when they had the
early deficit. The types of plays they go for are very similar. They're always trying
to win back the deficit in a big way. Yeah. But in this game and in some of the C9 games,
those big swings have missed and expose them to get counterpunched and head away. And back
to Kobe's earlier point, this is now back to back series here. I mean, there's only
game one. We saw many more to play here. Yeah. Yeah. Just because it's happening in
one game doesn't mean this is going to happen all day. But it is Griffin a rookie. I still
I know we played one split down in LTA South last year, but still very new jungler coming to Lee playing against two of the goats
You know it's blabber. It's inspired
So I think we're starting to see why these two junglers are held to such high esteem when they're able to make a
Again, I'm gonna call in the rookie look like this despite Griffin having a fantastic debut
Has now been kind of shut down last couple of games here as inspired will continue to shunt
I mean at this point there's really nothing for fly quest to farm like they're getting the every way pushed in with the Baron buff
They're losing their jungle camps. It's getting so difficult as Gakos
Looks for the unsupply one slot and will not land it on the dohkwa and lion is also playing really well
They are pushing waves in a safe way inspired has been hiding his position really smartly
I think the fact that he successfully
Countered Griffin on his first four moves has then also dissuaded you from even going for more moves
So flag questions giving up most of their ways they have to give up most of their camps and it's a big snowball
Yeah, and because the jungle story is is so interesting and big with inspire playing this is former teammates and his former organization
You know it might take some of the camera time away from the bottom lane
But Berserker and Isles were really smirking this game to
Isles Isles had some really good engages Berserker was absolutely destroying them down there and there's another one
I know it underneath the turret onto Quad trying to all in with the help of St.
Quad has the stasis, Zoni has popped, and the turret falls and Lyon still gets the kill.
Turret and kill credit to Lyon.
It's just such a value, you know, picked to steal away Nocturne from an Orianna
because not only do you deny the Nocturne and Orianna on the same team,
the synergy for the ball delivery, but it's also one of the best chance
at attacking Orianna in the side lane.
Okay.
But now Griffin has a window.
We just saw Inspired Botside.
Does he wanna loop around?
It's here, it's help coming in.
Yeah, this is a lot of effort into this top half.
And now, Dokla is just finding himself in a 1v1 with Isles behind.
Flash out of Gatgo's, Pop Lawson should not come up.
Cryo's been trying to keep the top laner alive.
Not long enough.
Griffin jumps in, so does Moss who flashed away.
Dokla's on top of him!
Double kill to the Sait!
And he'll shovel away!
Quadra killed the Sait!
A pent-off?
No!
Just the Quadra killed the mid laner,
I had shown up huge in the top lane again. It was already dead, so it couldn't have been. Yeah, but he killed all five of them
Yeah, you know delayed. Yeah delayed
This is not what we expect over just doing it again
We're just doing it on repeat chain paranoia boss. I welcome back to the rip one
Personally ace for don't close
Then they've got the preset white flags to go up when it all the bones are dead
Like that it usually those are kind of like funny. Yeah, but when it's actually a beatdown like this
It's just feels mean one of you who said earlier. It's like, you know, you know, the veterans beating up the kids
It's feeling like an episode of always sunny right now like this is getting a little ridiculous 16 to 1
Okay, so this is the top lane plan. I didn't know which one we were coming back to this is a teleport from flying to help defend the docla
Yeah, and just watch
He is here saying approach display. He gets the first one. He's going to be able to get all four very fed at the moment
Deathcap soul stealer computed after this fight
Literally feels like he two hits Griffin one all and then an auto attack
I thought it was a pension because the quadricle happened so fast and also there's still the scion we see the side died
But then there's the zombie. Yeah, actually my favorite part of that fan replay is nobody else is reacting
And he's looking around like, oh, yeah.
And he was, that was crazy, right?
And he was like, well, this game is just over.
So yeah, I'm kind of checked out.
But I think part of the reaction
We're back in check back in guys.
St. Just got a quadra kill after having a really tough
performance so far this split.
I think this is a research for all members of Lyon.
Like I inspired with the one that I really was focused on.
Like, yeah, he still looks good.
Preserver as well had a couple of really good plays,
but the team was struggling as a whole.
This does not feel like a team that's struggling.
They feel like they're on the same page here.
No, it doesn't. And this is only brought up because it's so opposite to what we had prepared.
Sait had actually been struggling so far this year. His damage was down.
His gold difference of 14 was down. This game is way up.
I think part of it is that the other jungler was completely removed from the game
and so much of it has been set up by Nocturne.
Yeah, one final Baron set up right now. We're going in for the play.
It's Gakko's on the front line, Dokla's by space with the rest of the team.
Lyon have taken down the enemy top laner first.
current call. So it was going to help chase down on the quad. Lots of slows landing. Cryogen
will take up the last one and flash to safety as Lyon, the bear is delayed, but they still
did kill Gakos. So if you're the coach for FlyQuest... Think Carter? Yes. Or Apollo. How do we...
Well, let's take a look at the Baron fight first. Yeah, it seems like FlyQuest still have
more fight left in them. They have Ultimates available from support to mid to bot and now
over the wall, Iles looks for the pop, Lossim will land it on the one,
Cryogen falls, Quad goes to the stasis, Masi trying his best to get damage down,
but don't go to the top of him! In comes Sate with another Shuffle and another Multi-Kill,
that one's a triple, Lion, win another teamfight.
So I was gonna say, how do we protect the mental for next game?
Not just considering this single game, because yeah, people ask that a lot for best of five.
Okay, you know, just look at the next game, it's fine, it's a long series,
But it is not just this series. It's also the last two series that they played versus Cloud9. Also, it has been very abusive.
Yeah, it's interesting because we look at what the last series did. They're ending the game right now, but it's a 20,000 Goldie.
They dragged themselves more early game agency as the series progressed.
And here they picked a lot of scaling. They didn't have much of a fallback pattern once they probably had other than playing very cautiously, which they couldn't do.
I would imagine the plan would be,
okay, we need to really prioritize picking lanes
since when we go for fights, we can't be at a deficit.
And at least to Flaglust's credit,
Gaglust gives his life to try and clear the wave,
Kredgen's there to help, so Lyon can't end on that push,
but this game all feels to, oh my goodness!
There was a Q and an auto from St. on to Grip,
and then he almost just dies, now it's fired, goes in.
He was at that help, but that started flying
over the wall from Isles!
Land on the right with the curtain!
Double-Kill the Berserker, Lyon don't need a reset, they just needed to refresh their cool-downs, Kwan will be aced, Lyon will win another fight, it's a slaughter of a game one with a 21,000 gold lead! Game one, the Lyon!
gold lead that is more thousands of gold than the average age of the team. I don't think that's ever
happened in the history of League of Legends. What a snarl. Can you win a whole series in one game
lounge? You got to let us know because that was wild. No. No. You actually are unable to do that.
You have to win three games out of five to win this series. But the kill debts on that one might
be having someone on FlyQuest yelling, help!
Oh, that was a tough one to watch, honestly.
That was a beat-up.
Yeah, that was, uh, that was ruthless.
That was like, we're watching FlyQuest, you're not going to get it.
Oh, my God.
Don't apologize to Lion for giving FlyQuest a game this series.
That's right, a second here, buddy.
I mean, the thing that just kind of blew my mind is, I was thinking FlyQuest, we see
And I'm like, oh, this is kind of cool.
And part of it is like a heavy farming style jungler.
You're gonna go Gwent and you're just gonna like farm it up
and you have Ash with scales really well
and Seraphine like the bot lane scales really well.
And you've got Sion on top side and Ori.
It's like, wow, just do nothing and farm for 20 minutes
and then start fighting.
Yeah.
And then they instead they just kind of ran in the fight.
I was gonna say, that's what you think.
No, we're gonna fight with it instead.
You know what?
I think just using that as an intro, let's show it.
I'm going to walk over the PC, I'm going to walk.
I'm starting to walk because you are correct.
And the main takeaway I was able to find
within the early game because after the last two series
that we saw from FlyQuest, we would imagine,
especially with a comp that you just laid out,
that this would not be the case.
Sadly, it just simply was.
So I wanted to show the early invade coming in
and see it from the perspective of inspired
because they do have this nice ward here
to couch out Griffin walking in that direction.
And you would wonder what Inspired is trying to do.
Well, the thing is, as you just kind of blow up the minimap
just a little bit here, oh, I have a lot here.
Boom!
You get to see that.
Probably good minimap expansion sound effect.
Boom!
I love it.
Well, he's going towards the Skullcrab.
The Skullcrab is fawning topside.
So he's like, well, I want to get level six off of this.
And he gets to see Griffin walking towards it.
And Griffin thinks, well, I'm trading, baby.
I'm trading your Raptors for level six on topside.
Gryffin inspires us, I'm not taking that trade.
As you can see, Gryffin has to wait quite a little bit
for the camp to respawn.
Even with Inspired starting the camp to begin with,
it takes a long time.
And so you get to see the entire cross from Inspired
walking in this direction.
And the one thing that I took a note of is
Gryffin even uses E to basically increase the damage
within the camp.
Even seeing him cross through mid lane,
Inspired wards over it, takes the engage,
you don't have flash, you can't escape.
St. still has Azir ulti, so no matter what, you're just dead here.
This was just a bad invade and a misunderstanding of your timing.
One thing that was crazy to me about this is like, I would have fully got it if they didn't
know the ward was there.
He swept the ward, saw he was spotted, took the time to clear it, then goes to Raptors,
sees the Raptors, aren't spawned, says no problem, I'll still wait, then sees Niko is
missing from bot lane, then sees the Nocturne cross mid lane, and then still stays and dies.
It's like the beginning of it made sense to me, but once he has all that information,
I just don't get the follow up. Yeah, and if you continue on with the composition that you just laid out
You want to just be able to farm with what you have here, right? You have you have Seraphine
A farming style jungler here in in Gwen like you're fighting now for first dragon to me
That's insane once again like in spite of taking this he sees you grouped up
separated from the rest of your team Masu and
crowd gen are walking back to pick up the wave underneath their turret, so you dive immediately.
So this is just again and again this is happening.
You're taking early fights and scraps and you're literally picking to scale.
It doesn't make sense to me and you're finding yourself in the hole that you found yourself
in when you're facing Cloud9.
Yeah, and it shouldn't surprise no one, but our player of the game is inspired.
This is the second jungler we have seen kind of just absolutely own Griffin in the early
not only were those plays that
you talked about, Raz, but every
time it felt like there was a
good play on topside for Griffin,
guess who's there inspired with
Nocturne. Oh, Doughla got so, so
far ahead. I like the shout out to
Saint too, just because we did
talk about how we felt like Saint
hadn't been performing based on
what we know he's going to throw
is a low key play. Shut up.
You didn't throw this.
I saw the Glinty
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Don't let him...
Yeah, I'll stop his ult.
Gwendolyn is here?
Yeah.
Gwendolyn is here. I'm gonna ult in 10 seconds.
Okay.
Gwendolyn is lucky.
I have ult in 10.
Gwendolyn, have you know?
Nice. Push stop, we can maybe help you.
Nice.
Top.
Top, I don't think...
Push stop. I don't think we can...
It feels...
different.
This is different. I like different.
I'm staying right here.
Are you guys serious? We're about to get into game.
Emily, let us enjoy it!
You guys need to walk in. Maybe this'll help.
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Awesome insight in there. I love those little videos where we get the pros showing us little tips.
Yeah, they're fantastic.
I want a compilation of all of them together.
That'll be a thing, yeah.
Because you missed any.
I mean, if you go to any of the LCS social media accounts, you can scroll down.
Scroll all the way down? You need a compilation, Jack?
We should, Jett, get to scroll in all these different ones.
It's like, 50.
You know what?
I'll take what I can get.
Our socials have been fantastic with the content
they've been putting out.
That's another example of that.
And also, saying how to fantastic game number one right there
on the Azeer of all things, which is, Jett, what's the win
right now?
It wasn't 1 and 4 before.
That's the second Azeer win in the last two years.
Second Azeer win?
First of the year.
Let's go.
Not bad.
Every part of Lion won in that previous game.
Every part.
The only death the whole game was
Sink going too deep under the turret on his first that was the only day. Otherwise, it would have been 26 is zero Wow
Yeah, yeah. All right, folks. It's like West. Let's go fly quest. Come on
They need to pull themselves out of this tailspin because it definitely feels like the two consecutive series against C9
We're rough and we're hoping that they be able to bounce back
But it definitely looks like this is a completely different line team than what we saw in
the first three weeks of the split and Kobe now we're talking even though
The Goldie got really extraordinary by the end of the game.
They were good mechanical fights by Lyon.
They were making a lot of really slick moves in those fights.
We were just distracted by the gargantuan Goldie.
And I mean, it was also inspired just completely reading
everywhere Griffin went.
We talked about the invade early on and really highlighted that.
That got the snowball rolling for Lyon.
But then he had like what, three times top lane
where they were trying to look at the Okla from fly
quest side.
And the spider was always there.
They had multiple people going up.
Like lion just have a solid read on what fly quest would do at any given moment in that game and fly quest
Maybe need to get out of their own heads about that as well
Not only just bounce back from a tough loss, but also figure out
How they're getting read so so easily here from line is especially for junglers because jungle is such a unique position
Where there's a lot more mind games a lot earlier in the game, you know laners you go to lane you can play your lane
several different ways, but
Nothing compared to how many different decisions you have to make in jungle and really does seem like
Griffin is kind of you know in his own head at this point with so many early jungle fiascos
Happening to fly quest it makes it very difficult then to play out a normal game plan
After one of these really early fiascos happens and you're playing then into one of these legendary
junglers of
You know of the LCS
Add a deficit and it becomes really hard for them to get back on track. So we'll see if they can
Honestly, I almost never saved this but can't say this but can we just like calmly farm in the early game?
Maybe we don't go for any early invades type thing and maybe we just do like a full clear a couple times
Relax, maybe let Masu get the word try it a little bit
I don't know.
You don't want to get rid of the aggression.
This is always the problem, right?
Yeah.
Whenever you lose in spectacular fashion.
It also depends very heavily on the team comp, of course,
but you also don't want to give too much ground to Inspired,
because then, you know, Inspired's going to take one of your camps here,
and then on repeat, then he's going to have the time for the next one,
and then it kind of will snowball away from you, so.
The most efficient jungler that I think we have in the West right now.
So, yeah, I agree that it's just going to be a tough position for FlyQuest,
regardless. I put a lot of stock into vibes, and I'm seeing Lions players smirking, laughing,
chuckling with each other, and I see FlyQuest players locking in, taking it much more seriously,
so we'll see if maybe a different mental approach can also help them out here. As pressure is
mounting in this best of five series, but we're in big and bad. A couple of bands already here,
as Karma and Cassiopeia on Lions side, but Ambessa as the final band, still not giving that
flex pick. Primarily jungle these days, but still technically flex pick for Gatikos and Griffin,
whereas Pantheon and Ryze on the side of Flycliffe so far.
So Rumble still up, Talia still up, like a Talia Vi sort of action there.
You could do like some Rumble with like a Yone or something type of composition.
So there's a couple different angles. Interesting Silas ban here.
Maybe they just want to open up an Alistar for later or something for their bottom lane.
We'll see about that but definitely a lot of Powerpicks still available.
As far as solo lanes go, Varus on the bottom, still, still quite good.
I have to ask, what's going on with those Akshan hovers?
Usually the hovers are...
I don't know, there's always hover docks.
It has been, that's just his go to.
Okay, I haven't noticed that one then.
Well, it's Varus locked in either way for Lyon, so they're going for their bot side
first off and it's going to be very quick Vi-Auri combo, chain CC, easy lockdown between
these two.
That was the Silas ban.
to do the Ari instead of the Taliyah. Even though I really like the Taliyah, we have seen some pretty
rough Ari games so far so maybe this one will change the story. There's also been some very good
ones though, so especially when you pair it with Vi, the point and click combination.
Yeah, if they end up locking in the Sororor, I believe it will go mid lane even though it's
technically a flex. I mean, we always bring it up. Jokul says it's fake. We always bring up the story.
That was a while ago, you know opinions can change Joe butt has since actually had his ass beat by an Aurora
You know gross mind set here Kobe you know you need to learn he might be like you know what I changed my mind
I wrote up is good. So, you know, I it's probably going to say since Saint had, you know
One of the biggest damage to war games in the entire else. Yes with it
But it could swap always we got a rock lock in that's a mouth flight also technically
I expected that jungle has been mostly in the jungle lately
But I inspired on another kind of like ultimate
You know the centric champion between the nocturne now the mouth fight as soon as that holds up
Like he can be looking at these lanes. Yeah, I mean mouth fight is so much more boring to me though
Oh, yeah, then after the nerfs. Yeah after the nerfs here because before it was pretty it was still pretty
Pretty exciting just because it's the power of the champ
But it's pretty early to pick mouth fight, right?
They take Ezreal, I don't know what some of those are. I know I don't know what one of those is
But I you know what I'm gonna try that recipe. Let me go back turns into another big stomp. We'll come back to that
Okay, yeah
What exactly are we making there?
But it's gonna be Ezreal for Masu, so we're defensive AD carry
Yeah, a good pick in a mouth fight. That's on the early mouth fight priority, even though
it was really overpowered before the nurse. At least one game for the birthday. The first
one I'm not looking so good. I like where he heads out though, Jatt. You know, it's
you're picking mouth fight into two carries that have the most mobility. That's not a
good slot. It's good in July, maybe, and maybe if Gakos picks an AD champion and they could
potentially flex it, but I think it's a little early.
As far as just so good, well at hitting six
and playing on alt timers though,
he's just gonna try and play, I think, a similar game.
And I think part of what worked out well for them
in that last game was the fact that they had,
you know, the Renekton top lane to push in the wave
and then cover for that top scowl grab
if a fight even happened up there.
So I think that for Lyon drafting,
you know, winning lanes might be part
of their recipe here for success.
And man, the Docal fans really have shown up today.
Shout out to the Docal fans, big Docs.
Love it.
Alright, Renata off the table as well here because they're showing Viari, so you know they're going to go for the engage pretty heavily, don't want to have to work around Renata ultimate and giving that respect over.
Meanwhile, in addition to taking off the rumble to open up her blind pick that we're assuming is coming for
Dope Squad this time. Okay, so they want a protection with both the rumble and the gnar. Make it a little bit easier for big Dopes.
Even though, yeah, technically you could put the stick in my mouth if you really wanted to, but...
And I want to go all the way back. This is something we talked about last year when Gakos got a couple of stage games for
FlyQuest what they wanted to set him up for was
Counterpicks with a unique champ pool and playing some of the carry champs
So I want to see Gakos pull out something that the team can play around. They already have a bot laner that can play safe
They did go for the Alistar as well with that Silas ban
So kind of double hit there with the Silas ban
But I want them to enable Gakos a little bit more here with his unique champ pool
Yeah, and I think not going for support counter pick but instead going for top lane counter pick is a good
Stride towards that but the overall team composition if we go back to game one fly quest pick this
Very slow scaling five five team composition and we were asking what are they gonna do to try and correct the tilt more individual agency
Across the board as real an Alistar can both play their own games by an Ari can both play their own games
And whatever that goes picks should be able to have an advantage in
It's into Poppy, so he knows what he's playing against, but Poppy is a very solid defensive pick.
I think it's a double flex, not like Poppy can blow through top jungle, so he's got to have something that works into both.
I mean, Poppy is so good. Into Alistar, Ori, and Vi here, good value regardless.
Could be Poppy support also, yeah, and now with the Cassante hover here.
Yeah, they have a lot of flexes, but I mean, they're going to have to log in something here to kind of show us more, and it is Cassante, so expecting Poppy support them.
That explains it, for the most part. Cassante top, now fight jungle, Poppy support.
Poppy support. Still love Poppy into the Alistar. Very hard for you to make any
action happen out there and also it's just great it's things like the Arias.
Well, goodbye. Let's do it! There we go! Do it! Some real dive! All right! Into all of these tanks here.
Okay, we expect you to have some focus up towards the top side of the map. Last game,
you saw Griffin go up there like four times, right? Yep. Every single time he went up there,
They died though. So this time around, they're not gonna die. How about that?
Well, this time they're not gonna try and play around the side, right?
Because that's the opposite of what you want to do when you're playing around the side.
It just felt like everything else in the map was lost here.
At least by the champions, they can win this 2v2, they would hope.
Although that's a big armor stack going up against my Olaf.
Olaf can do a lot of true damage and can also do well against a lot of melee champions.
So if he gets a lead, he can tread.
Densing blows can't help you out in that, but it's notoriously difficult to actually kill a Cassante
Like he's a tough champion to lock down and take down, especially if he's under his own turrets
So let's see if doclas able to play weak side top lane as expected
Gat goes though this time
This is what I wanted the old law top lane a unique champ pool for a young top laner back in Kobe
If you're if you've been getting beat up a bunch on stage, then you at least need to try
Something else, you know, you have to increase your tolerance for risk
and index very heavily into counter picks.
Olaf thrown down.
Can the Olaf run through these tanks
and take over the game to keep FlyQuest hopes alive?
After a crushing game one loss,
it's agency the name of the game for FlyQuest.
Lion looking to run through this series expeditiously
as they got a 21K gold lead in that first one,
higher than the average age of FlyQuest members
as Jout likes to remind us. Game 2, take it to the rift.
Already some ward sweeping happening in that bottom lane.
In terms of going against the grain as well, Kobe,
I'd say even the game one draft for FlyQuest was doing that.
So many people are drafting support in fourth or fifth pick,
whereas in game one, FlyQuest locked in the Ash Seraphine
in the first rotation.
Here, the Olaf is something we don't see other people play.
Game one, additionally trying to play the Jungle Glen.
So they're definitely trying a lot of things and they seem to have changed their strategy overall for game two with more power around the top side.
But that killer instinct and draft and trying to be a little bit different, I think they stay the same.
As we see, I always like to keep in mind whenever we see a Varus coming into the game, it is the Comet.
So more lethality Varus expectation here as Cryo Jin is actually playing very aggressively as a level one Alistar.
It's rare that I see a level one Alistar actually find this type of early lead, but that's it from us for the early game right now.
Let's talk to Emily who's there with think card for an interview
Hello first thing. How do you regroup from such a crushing loss?
Yeah, so
Obviously not the best performance, but in a loss like that we kind of
Forgot most of our fundamentals in the first six minutes of the game like we're calling out that didn't can move
It could be 4v3 on rafters nocturne's level six never actually fight dragon
So it just comes down to taking a step back,
taking a deep breath, zooming out,
and just playing the game accordingly.
Because in a game like that, as long as we do play slower
and play on our timers, we kind of see a free win
with our comp.
So it is about kind of chalking it up.
Because since you fall behind, the game's kind of a disaster.
So it is easy to write it off.
But we do need to have good fundamentals
going to these teams in any pro league.
I fully agree.
I actually really like your comping game, one.
Game two, taking a completely different strategy here, right?
with the Vi Ari, like a lot of really early to mid game playmaking.
So is that like a conscious choice just based on how the way your team is
performed? Um,
it is kind of just like bringing them to big bears and then we have a very good
dive comp with the Vi Ari Olaf. Um,
overall it's still kind of follows a similar thing where they do have like a
mouth fight, which is going to have pretty strong like mid game, uh,
big game fights. But as long as you have flash and we have edge of Ari,
which are pretty good against an alpha,
then it should be easy for us to kind of, uh, find a good fight and vote.
The key for teamfights in this game is as long as Olaf can connect with the ViR, it's going to be winning, but if Olaf is too far away or can't connect, then that's how you know if it's probably not going to go our way.
Well, we'll see what happens. All the best to you and your team. Thank you for taking the time. I'll let you go. Back to the cast.
Love hearing coach's thoughts, and I got to ask, is it just like a fly quest thing where they take the mic from the interviewer? Griffin does it, now Thinkard does it? Is that just like their thing?
Maybe he's learned from the coach and not the other account.
I don't know why you guys let him have it. Yeah, you can hold on to that thing. Why don't they give it back?
Fraction never again, but it's just happened happened. Yeah, I know just keeps happening
Gakko is actually in a very low health situation here is it awesome
And I'd also say exactly the same jungle pathing that we saw early on in game one
So inspired doing the Raptor start not recalling until after his crugs are done
Whereas Griffin doing the more standard full clear
basing and then going back for Krugs. It did allow him to kind of cover for Gakos a little bit there,
but he's gonna have to start clearing his camps because he wants to hit level six at the same times inspired.
And it's another instance where already in the early game, Inspired is getting a more efficient, clear over Griffin this time,
because he's hovering on the top half and will now go towards these other camps.
But yeah, Inspired is able to get that top Skeletal Crab and is right back towards his at bottom camps.
Well, I mean, it's same efficiencies as different timers then. You're desyncing your Raptor
spawns from your opponent's raptor spawns with this?
Sure.
Last time, it turned out pretty poorly.
It did.
A little bit dangerous.
But we'll see how it happens this time.
Generally, when you are playing level six junglers,
like Malfi or Nocturne, or a lot of people
really like raptor starts now, so you
can get back for the second clear on your red quadrant
of the jungle.
But it is going to be the clear top down to bottom
every time for Griffin.
So Griffin is once again going to end up down here after finishing clearing his gromp.
Looks like Isle's just went and popped the Skryers' Bloom over him though,
and so they have clear vision of the Vi, and Inspire takes that time.
Level 5 mouth fight gank.
I mean, there's a ward in that pixel brush, so they see it coming,
but it might not be enough to open his pop to Ragnarok use,
but he sees CMU, and is it enough to get the solo kill?
No, it's first blood, the doklok.
Big Dokes.
Honestly, he had a really good first game as well.
We were talking mostly about Inspired and about Berserker as far as the bottom lane.
You know, the individually winning places.
But Dokela made a lot of good 2v1 plays for himself on the Renekton up behind the topside.
Yeah, it was a nice easy winning matchup we're Renekton into Sion.
But this time around, he had to blind pick the Cassante and Inspired says,
you know what, I'm gonna come on up here.
You only need a little bit of extra damage.
Yeah, when your Cassante gets a level six nice all in there from docla
To make the difference here Griffin this time around does again not get that raptor spawn
But he is level six because he sold the Drake. That's like the biggest crab of all
I take the Drake over it as long as
I need one of those like picture books. That's the animal size chart from Jack. It's like these are all variations of grass
And the larger crab
But I'd also say like it is another example of inspired having a really good read on the game where
All the information was actually available to the two top laners if they're looking for it of
Which way the junglers started their clears when the camps are going to be responding and where they're likely to be
because Griffin clearing top down, if he's trying to go for another full clear, he's always going to be bot side.
So that's why Inspire feels so confident to walk like through the enemy jungler as level 5 mouth fight to arrive for that little bit of extra health.
Also, I just want to say, this is disastrous for the Olaf.
I mean, we're talking about the fact that this is a Cassandra that can stack armor.
He now has the boots, he has the Bramble Vest.
Like, this is not how the Olaf wants the lane to start off already given a kill over to your top lane opponent.
So again pressure on for fly quests like can Griffin get up there and help out his top laner who's now going to be behind in the 1v1
Also during that invade a nice ward was placed by inspired the Griffin doesn't expect there
So they spotted him a couple times on that ward right now just giving doklah more knowledge of what he can do in the top lane
well
At least you can grab your honey fruit to sustain a little bit after that exchange make it a little bit less
painful there but mouth bite is level 60 or 4 inspired and this is one of the
items that I have loved the little buff that they gave with the new season
because it added extra ability haste to it extra ultimate ability haste to the
Zeke's convergence so it's like perfect for mouth bite because you get in there
and they get a little bit of extra daily damage, slow down, gives you just general
tankiness as well for the game regardless of damage types of your
opponents and it's very cheap so you spike super early so you get your level six on mouth
eye k az convergence you blast somebody a mouth eye build it look really fun but I don't
know if it's good it's just all the ultimate cdr items so you go this into malignant into
hex plate and then you're just lowering your arc pull down as low as possible I can pass
judgment on that right now I'll say it's not good but I won't disagree that it looks cool
And it's probably fun.
Yeah.
I would say full AP.
I like full AP the most.
Full AP is fun.
It's also probably not the best.
Ooh, X-Cryogen has to pop his ultimate right there.
Monster taking a big chunk as well.
Isle looks for the Q damage.
Not going to find it as FlyQuest now might just
get chased down here.
Berserker doesn't have the ultimate,
but a flash from Isle is just for damage onto Cryogen.
Will get the flash out from the Alistar.
Yeah, nice flash trade there.
Getting the flash off of Alistar.
Although, one has Hex Flush.
Looks like Isles does not have Hex Flash in this game.
So, Crowshain might look to roam after this.
Still good laning performance so far by Lyon.
And I gotta say that early games still going Lyon's way,
but this time around FlyQuest are equalizing a little bit more.
Actually, it's keeping Topside here.
It's the Unsealed Spellbook from Crowshain.
So the Alicer are popping up to help out Griffin.
Deny all of the grubs from Lyon.
So it'll be a one for two trade,
as Gakos is also just keeping priority,
pushing in on this Topside.
Yeah, and as of now, FlyQuest is not rushing the game like they did in Game 1.
So in terms of, you know, something did go wrong in the early game,
or Olaf got first blooded, but let's not forget our fundamentals.
We can trade it for Drake.
They then control the Grubs.
So this is already a huge improvement over Game 1 for FlyQuest.
And I would say that instance right there was the first time between Game 1 and 2
now that we've seen Griffin really identify where inspired is
and make a counterplay himself.
Like he's jumping up there with his Alistair behind him
to push Inspired off of an objective as opposed to Inspired who all of game one and even at
the beginning there identifying Griffin was passing bot side and then ganks top it feels
like Inspired has had God vision himself to just know where Griffin is at all times so
small win there for like West and I like you know cryogen investing the early teleport
off his summoner spell book but it does mean now aisles has summoner spell book teleport
advantage so you can make a play elsewhere sometimes and then use it to go back to bottom
He couldn't find any plays though, so he's just going to use it for another reset.
Okay, I was right back to lane.
Hops down there and equal buy with cryogen as well.
As Masu's in a 1v2 right now and that's where Ezreal, again, very comfortable for a champion like Ezreal to be in these
state of the situations, which allows cryogen to get around the map.
Alright, Griffin has completed Sundersky.
He wants to be like a lane gank it looks like on bottom side.
He's coming down, Tribus does have a control ward.
He really wants to use his Vi ultimate, but there's nothing really presenting itself, so maybe they do leech the dragon.
He got a little sweep over the ward though, so at least they know it's there.
They know it's on vision, and St. Jess got mid-wave in, so they got to be very careful here.
Flyquests have a mid laner and a mouth fight coming in from the mid lane as well.
And actually, it could be Quad that's in trouble.
Control ward will spot it down, and he just pulled the trigger over the aisles instead.
Keeper's verdict is cancelled by the headbutt to stop them all from getting knocked away themselves
But now they didn't get the kill they didn't get the pick and they have to reset as dragon will not be claimed
All right, I had a bit of a misplay there by crouching probably wanted to his Q was on cooldown
Well, I think it was probably hoping to W him in the other direction
But wasn't in the right spot because I had
Going on the no flash poppy seems like a really good turn well when the keepers verdict is being channeled
I it's either cancel it or let it hit all of us, I guess so maybe you just take the ladder
Who knows in those tight moments what the intention was but either way it just delays the dragon neither team will go for that second one
Again as instead grip and that's towards the top side. So Kobe
He didn't find that immediate, you know power spike
He was looking for speaking of power spikes mass car power spike here for quad in the mid lane flash from courage in out of
Pizzerka as Shayna corruption will go wide crowd inside stepping that one
but in comes Isles, gets the hit into the wall.
Actually, Cryogen's able to walk away from that one,
exhausted down the ultimate, trying to keep him alive,
but his AD carries are already given up on him.
Cryogen will be the sacrifice,
but Zercher picks up a kill.
And they get the dragon.
Oh man, Black West.
Hey, it feels like they just can't even really
hold on to anything.
Maybe top side again, Griffin wants to go over the wall.
Okay, they're not going to wait for the dive instead.
It's all out from Dokla, saying,
all right, Griffin's my escape tool here.
Griffin's trying to lock him down.
Flash him, Dokla will get him to save the entrance board.
With the charm, lands onto the top,
Lander, Dokla with the third,
Dokla's got a get-go, same try to turn the play
in a 1v3 now.
Can he get anything?
That's a teleport up from Berserker.
The Varus has now shut up with the play,
and it comes inspired!
Big ultimate knockups as St. will get another kill.
Lion yet again with a team fight even if like let's get let's kill
Jack yeah, they lose three more trying to get out of there the teleport from Berserker Varus
They're going so deep though. Look at how long that chase went for
Cassante it gave a
Massive amount of time for lion to mount a counterattack credit to Joklah for delaying that so long first off
I don't think that's a gankable Kasate if you're hoping behind the turret
With no ultimate if you think about the way this place started if you started by going over a wall
You can go right back the other way with the other day. Yes, you can
So dola is able to get himself to an exit path and then flashes the queue here to buy some time
So that requires quad invested in flash on Ari which now allows the counter because mouth bite is quite close
So St. feels confident getting the triple person ultimate with the Aurora and berserkers teleport means there's no where to exit
Yeah inspired landing a very nice two-man ultimate St. doesn't die at the end of it
You appreciate it when you get three man as a top laner and then your team backs you up exactly and again. This is showing
Multiple times throughout both games where lion are doing something on one side of fly quest feel pressure to do something on the other
this is now another instance in the topside here for Griffin and it's now a 2.2k gold lead for Lyon
rather and a lot of that being on this bottom side for Zercher with that TPF topside Lyon out
there supporting some trouble their quad was in the lane and he had multiple members around him
that is a pick for FlyQuest much needed gold into the mid laner's pocket. Really nice pick there
by FlyQuest trying to keep the action up a little bit but that time as you notice they didn't need
They need to really over extend for that place so they use their tempo nicely and get the quick kill onto Isles.
Got to say, Lyon, they look pretty good regardless of that like face check and one kill going over to FlyQuest.
Maybe it's another here as Cryogen gets on the same... Oh, the Rocket Belt is safety! Dodd is the charm.
There you go, there's your Rocket Belt.
Didn't go on his ear. No.
More traditional there on Aurora.
They also have the malignance that was rushed on to Quad as you pulled out earlier, Kengis.
So should be able to get that one back pretty quickly as well and look for some more possible
pick plays.
And it's like we have to keep looking for some of these picks.
Meanwhile, Topside, I feel like that Rift Herald has been pulled out.
We can look at the minimap right now.
Inspired is almost done with it.
So Rift here, over to Lyon, going to result in some more turret plate money for them,
guaranteed as well. I do think if you look at the big picture though for FlyQuest, they need to make sure they don't over force because as
ThinkCard said, this draft was around, they're going to pick Varus and we're going to pick a bunch of stuff that can kill Varus.
So, even though Doku inspired our big tanks with lots of armor, if they can center plays around their bottom lane, they're still in a
game state where they can win the game, rather than trying to force a bunch of plays up towards Costante.
And Varus already has an early bounty because Berserker has had a lot of success this game already
You know especially with that teleport up to the top side
So couple early kills onto the Varus if you are able to take him down that would be huge get a little bounty there as well promise
He does have his flash available
And he's got the extra boots of swiftness to to dodge away and keep his distance
I cry out in here ghosting in the lane again the Summoner spellbook you can try and find little cheeky plays like that
but doklow wisely backs off so should be fine
Especially like boots of swiftness because it helps so much as an ad carry trying to kite an Olaf
You know the axe spam so much less threatening
You can dodge really easily side to side your ghost blade active helps with that a lot too
So it basically means that that by has to hold you or crudgeon has to have a really good
You know playing for something but here we go towards the crab crab once again taken by line
inspired secure the crab and that's gonna be it and really difficult for
fly quest to retake this space because the aurora has permit push in the
bottom lane their jungle is warded up they're trying to clear it but with both
bot and mid lane pushed in and berserker probably resetting now to
complete another item edge of night making even more difficult for him to
dive there's some really good timers for lying here to play around bot river
yeah now you can't even find like a charm to start things off on the berserker
you got to get through that shield first dragon has now spawned so let's see if
Lyon want to start that one up as Griffin's on the top half of the map right now.
That was a proxy farm from Dokla, and Incomes Gryffin uses the ultimate.
Dokla has the all out trying to get out of there, uses the step instead as Gakos with the slow to follow him up.
Everyone's onto Dokla, Lyon are onto the dragon flash of the wall, Gakos flash follows, and the late from Gryffin to get Dokla after the all out.
Well played to get the kill up there, traded for the objective.
That one works well. They were not going to retake River safely.
We've gone over where the power was in that instance.
So that's the attempted counter play.
And this time, rather than trying to gank for a mouth fight,
he's ganked for a scion, like even game one,
he's ganking for an Olaf.
It didn't look like they were quite on the same page.
Gakos actually stood her step backwards at the start of that gank,
but they got it done in the end.
Yeah, and they're able to push out the lane afterwards too.
So the Olaf has been able to recover quite nicely,
has the only little gold lead on the team and once your stridebreaker is done you know at least he
has the extra you know speed differential to try and use chasing people down and we'll see how
they progress there if they can continue to make some picks continue to get some extra gold this
was the kind of weakness of fly quest after what happened in the early game is that gakos was so far
behind doklah picks up that kill from inspired level five mouth like gank but now gakos with this
hopefully can get back into this game because Olaf is a big part of the
comp and they're just gonna repeat the play again no ultimate on the Cassante
this time an exhaust goes out with the support to lock down the Cassante the
ultimate from Olaf will just keep up as long as he's auto-aimed Oklah has no
escape and Gatgos gets his second kill eat him up here we go the snowball
begins for fly quest Gatgos also should be able to get this turret back away
crowd Jin don't you dare still have any money. I mean this last sequence is huge. It was a slight
gold deficit for Gakos into now a decent sized gold lead. I will at least say the first turret
bonus had already been taken by Lyon on the bottom side. So you don't think it's already
mostly been farmed out. I was afraid to jump up as I get about a hundred gold. You don't get as big
of a gold injection but it's still good to get obviously for him as well and Sundered Sky you
you know completed so two items on the Olaf now something to work with but the
question I have is is it too little too late because Olaf I see is something you
want to get that snowball go and Baron's already on the map so we're kind of at a
point of the game where Cassante might be looking to group up with the team
anyway I mean former Flag was top laner Bwipo would talk about how Olaf has
really good scale it was different item set but he's like actually about three
items is where he becomes really powerful you just need to go even in the
early game so we'll see what happens in this game just because berserker does
seems so accelerated and a lot of times Olaf wars are about like can the AD carry kill you before
you reach him yeah and then maul him as an Olaf but I think Akkos is in a pretty good game state
now yeah and this lion squad is a lot about like burst damage with a lethality varus and with an
aurora here so if you if you can make them a run out of burst if the burst is not enough to get the
job done and they can still find some good success or you know they can also have poke with
Ezreal first. Masu here has been quite good with poke champions so maybe he's
able to dodge Varus poke and stay at a fairly healthy range away from the
mouth fight while still being able to get something done himself. In mouth fight
the targets he's looking at it's a CC immune Olaf and it's two carries that
have mobility the already ultimate at the Ezreal jump so it's not even gonna be
like easy for inspired to be like okay well Gakko's is going somewhere else
So I'll just jump on them as the Herald.
Okay, well, we just landed to the wall.
Well, we got the cinematic view of it.
I like that.
I appreciate the view.
Yeah.
That's it.
Well, you didn't want the Herald to die right there,
so you delayed a little bit, set it back,
and so then it's going to deliver you
a little bit of pressure.
So now it's the next wave of minions that was pressured,
and so Olaf is going to have to answer there.
It gives a small window for a room towards mid.
There is a purpose for it, yeah, other than joyride.
And Dragon's coming up in a minute 15.
So if you can control the vision around the river,
that is an advantage in and of itself.
There's two control wards with FlyQuest.
They have multiple members here,
as Lion or Jackie, and for their own vision control.
So I'm walking up, taking some of that poke
from Masu right there.
Two Qs have landed.
He's getting it done.
What about his transforms?
Ooh, Charm on to inspire,
and as Isles is looking at it all,
so FlyQuest trying to spread out
from the mouth fight ultimate,
but it's just a play for the vision.
Lion gets the second control ward,
and now we'll get that crab.
Yeah, Inspired would have been very difficult to kill, even if they land that charm
with having the Protoplasm harness on top of what is now, you know, 150 base MR.
If he has his armor shield up, it's 250 armor while he has that.
So really, really hard to get a pick on Inspired.
Inspired is playing that very slow game.
As Kobe mentioned, not as exciting as the Nocturne, where you're able to have, like, solo kill threat on side lanes.
It's very much a slow and steady way for your team and land it well.
I do like that he's going for the like cheap item build where he's using a lot of these kind of pseudo support items with the Zeke's and the Protoplasm
that have very low price tax so he can get to three items pretty quickly on and we're going to get the three item powers right now with the Abyssal finish
so you've got that extra magic you know damage that's going to help out Saints burst damage so there's huge burst damage
We get mouth by Ulta if you're also going to be in range for the abyssal shred for a saint and it could be dangerous here
We go. Yeah, the dragon started already and incomes inspired could look for the engage at any time teleport in from quad
Keepers verdict being channeled by aisles over the wall, but not gonna throw it
So no knock back for Griffin instead. It's line looking at the carry. It's on quad
The dope with turns his attention inspired still has the oldies holding it for a long time cryo
and just trying to push back members from Lyon as the dragon is not getting bursted down,
inspired, has found his way into the pit, and health bars are low and fly.
Lyon are poking them out pretty effectively here. They're actually winning the poke war's hard.
Dokla is zoning the R.
Gaviage in, onto the carry. It's Masu as the target! He gets him! Masu's out of there!
Now can FlyQuest deal with the rest? It's onto Quad. He's pushed away from the rest of the team,
and the pit FlyQuest are winning it as it's Gakko's on the low!
Gets the first kill. Can he find more? No!
So, Dokla holds the line, same with the damage, Berserker on touch, and Lyon crushes the fighter
dragon with a double kill to the saint to end it.
Lyon just playing very well in teamfights in both game 1 and 2.
The beginning of this fight, getting that blast execute onto Masu from saint, and then
also inspired by as much time as possible.
I want to hold when they start, wait wait wait wait, after the VQ, after the VQ I will try to
I'm looking now
Vyn hold
I see it, hold
I'm really dead
Vyn hold, I can flash, I can flash
Okay, they're looking me
Vyn just flashed in
Oh left, left, left
Vyn no flash
I see over
Don't matter, don't matter
I love how even after flashing over the wall inspired still shot calling the fight saying who to target
He's in total control this game landing that ultimate onto Ezreal which turned the fight. He's got a good view up there
Yeah, he had very good shot come from the very beginning. He was like right after the bike you that's when we're going in
You know he ults in onto Masu and then you know St. Is able to flash follow and kill that key carry exactly and berserker was again untouched
We saw Gakos. He's meant to be the threat for the lethality of eras. He didn't even get the the banshee shield off of him
So yeah, berserker was able to just free fire in that fight as who the charm not let on the aisles a good side step there
Yeah, uses his W for a little extra speed there nice little juke so no pick and
Even though it is Malignis Ari
You know a little bit of an investment there because you see the bottom lane Aurora's pushed it all the way up to the tower
or so they kind of sacrifice a little bit of minion pressure here on the bottom side as
Saint was able to fully push that one in level 16 himself
Yeah, this is turning into a slow and steady lion victory. I really just
The big power difference there by inspired going with the cheaper items
He was a full item up on the Vi but only like 400 gold up on the Vi
So I think that ended up making a big difference because if he's you know a little too item carry there
Gakos would probably get the kill on him or at least burn the flash earlier. Just made such a big difference in that fight.
That's why his timings are so good. We're starting about right before he just finished the abyssal.
Yeah. Right before FlyQuest started this fight and then him and Saint with just enough magic damage to kill off Masu.
Definitely impactful there as far as like assassinating that carry.
As I'm starting to think it's Spire, it's pretty good. A League of Legends. I don't know man.
And Saint is about to get a deathcap. Let's look at this bottom tower though because the tower is dead so...
So, not much Dekla can do about it.
There's an Olaf in your face.
Sainte is coming from the bottom tier two.
So if Dekla keeps Gakos here,
Gakos could be in some trouble,
but no, Gakos will back away.
Sainte not gonna make it there in time.
But the turret was the objective for FlyQuest.
They do get more gold onto this Olaf.
Still three, three, and one.
Still the last pick, fifth pick counter pick for FlyQuest.
And they put a lot of effort into giving him resources.
Yeah, and I do want to say that Sainte
having a way better series in what we've seen in the past.
So he was the target of the most criticism for Lyon
because he kept getting caught in crucial situations
in all of their losses.
He had a couple of bad Taliyah games, but in game one,
it was 13-1 on the Azir.
And here, he's got the biggest bounty on the team,
incredibly fed on this Aurora.
So I think almost like the biggest difference
between FlyQuest first three weeks and FlyQuest now
is Saint is playing like a top tier mid laner
rather than what we saw beforehand,
which was definitely not that,
because he hasn't been picked off
doing this job in team fights with Strongly.
And St. was the one member that's returning
to Lyon from last year.
This was the one player coming back.
So when he was having a rough start to the year,
it was like, ooh, is the roster gonna work?
You know, there were a lot of question marks raised
of this would be super team.
We asked, you know, the chat during the lounge segment today,
the kicking off the show, is Lyon a super team?
And it was like 90% saying, no, they're not a super team.
And I think a lot of that is because of the sentiment
how Saint has been performing in the mid lane for the team so far.
Yeah, it just feels like Lyon are much more coordinated as a team than previously as well.
So, better individual performances also lead to better coordination.
You know, that that column's listening was what you kind of expect from teams with inspired on them,
where it's like marching orders from the very beginning. This is going to happen,
then this is going to happen, this, this, this, this.
And it's seeing like everybody is on the same page and really executing.
I mean, speaking of being on the same page, Drake's up in 10 seconds and look at those wards around Bot River.
They're going to try and take control of this and get yet another fight here.
There is some nice deep push that Quad's getting in the top lane that Joken's going to have to catch,
but you know that Lyon is all hands on deck for this next drink.
I mean, I think that if FlyQuest are just giving it, I mean, look at where Griffin is.
He's on the top half of the map.
They're not going to TP Quad in, so it seems like FlyQuest are trying to slow the game down a little bit,
not contesting this next dragon it is only the third one is Griffin looked
for the ball breaker on to Isles but he steps back I mean maybe they look for a
pick on a Dokla it really tough to kill this Kassadne he will walk in and give
them a window though as he's charmed up CC Chains stun as well he just cannot
move but Isles is behind him and they have to invest so much to kill this Kassadne and he's still alive!
The OLED on a grip it pulls him back to the team now the rest of Lion are here
Iles will be the sacrifice instead as Inspire only lands one with the ultimate.
He might just get choked down with Sage over the wall.
Sage found the plague of the Aurora.
As Gad goes this time, can finally free fire.
Will kill the top laner.
FlyQuest trying to get members out.
It's a two for one trade so far for FlyQuest.
How bad does Lion want to keep this go?
And the lethality varus lands one Q on a cryo gym.
I guess that's a win for FlyQuest trading up two for one.
It's a win in the fight.
It's a loss in the map because it's now so a point for Lion.
But you understand they're not just gonna flip the game by trying to fight third Drake from a 5,000 gold deficit
So they're going elsewhere. It's unfortunate that elsewhere is a Kasate
So it takes a really long time to kill him at the very end though
They are able to get a lot of nice damage onto Isles thanks to Quad's charm and then in Spart
Doesn't actually land an incredible ultimate just lands it on the one
So it's not the perfect combo with Saint Albiond here. Yeah flash out
And then Doku on the re-engage here off of, you know, trying to go coordinate the way to send that's an empowered recall
Okay, he's out of there
Yeah, they I mean they were trying to go for for the re-engage there and so it turns into a two for one
But yeah dragon slow point is quite big because Mountain Soul shields
Would be a very big difference maker here with both teams being fairly bursty
and looking for like these thresholds for lethal.
Of course the Olaf though is the big,
is then the big topic and death stance being completed
provides you a lot of sustain.
So Gatkos, this Olaf is in a very healthy position.
Likewise, he could just play around that Olaf.
We're actually going to send it here on the same,
but he just dashes away with the ultimate
between worlds.
Selphor coming in now as he rocker belts forward.
Dokla has completed the TV, flashes in, exhausted up.
Gatkos is holding the line.
Zyker can't get in there so Doko's in a 1v4 but now Sane's walking up trying to back up his top laner.
Inspired now shows up. It's so hard to kill the Kasate as he will walk back to safety of the team.
Nobody dies on either side. Really weird fight there with the initial engage not working for
fly quest and then I'd say Doko like flashing in for that engage when inspired is off screen.
Yeah. Is never going to have the follow-up. He knew that he wasn't going to die
But he also wasn't really able to get much done. We're seeing a lot of durability actually on both sides of these team comps, and not that much damage.
Yeah, Griffin tries to go for the Vi open. Because it's an Aurora, they can top the ultimate ends, because nobody else is really that close.
They don't have a lot of immediate threat. And then clearly, something from the side of Lyon was calling for the re-engage.
All right, you know a flashdown here and there and nobody actually giving over the extra gold
We're still very very much in a
Fairly open game state, but I want to go back to what thinkard had said at the beginning of the game in the interview
Was we need the Violts and the Olaf to be in range to follow up?
That was again Griffin going way deep in the jungle and Gakos didn't like hit anything
Yeah, he held the line so Berserker couldn't walk forward
but we haven't really seen that yet where Gakos is able to follow up on the big engage from Griffin.
Well, luckily for them, they do have the Guardian Angel timer well before this Dragon Soul fight.
It might be a little bit rough as far as Baron and Dragon Soul being on this map at the same time.
Lion can try and pull the trick where they go to the other side here and then force you to react to their objective.
But with Guardian Angel on Vi, you can afford to go very aggressive Vi, Alistar and Olaf
You know trying to push in and dive for that kill on the carry
I feel like FlyQuest has to go in for this soul point
I think if it's Mountain Soul on the side of line with then with with FlyQuest needing to reach thresholds of durability to get kills
So will end the game so
I've actually appreciated fly quests restraint not flipping the game earlier than this trying to get
Small incremental wins on Gatko so that he can become a big ol off by the end of the game
But the game is going to be decided here if they can control this space and it's really hard for them to move in there still quite
Far behind on the little hex drinker here from Gatko's as well
On the back of it
So can I have the extra magic damage shield to deal with a lot of the Aurora and Malfight up front damage here?
Is that gonna be enough? Flyquests their Olaf is strong
They can fight around them if they can set it up, but they just don't have control of the space
So it's likely they get engaged on first and then have to try and counter
There's inspired anytime you're walking into the mouth, but it can be scary grip and just flashing gauges here on the back
line looks for sink
It's not to whether the keeper's burden as berserkers trying to hold that quad
But in the pit goes the top laner, walks for Gakkos, the Olaf's trying to free fire onto Doko, but that's the only memory he's hitting!
And now he's about to go down! Inspired picks up the kill, the Olaf has fallen! All the gold for FlyQuest, and now it's reliant on Quad and Masu to find some carry here.
Big pump from Masu, knocked back on the Quad, but no follow-up for the kill, but Senga Masu dominating as he kills the Ezreal!
Like was at the back away and give the dragon a lion win the fight great flash combo from
Saints Saints is playing so much better especially this game really good back to back stuff because
Griffin tried to do a really snap play on by again without the Olaf next to him and
because Griffin goes right over the wall uses flash uses all immediately onto the Aurora
they use so much of their CC and the Olaf is pretty far back then when Olaf comes in
These are minions you see, but not damage.
So, it's fire just ults them for damage anyways,
and they kill them off.
Now they're on the Baron.
And all they're gonna do is docle.
Who's got the Bramble Vest from the beginning.
So, you know, tough position for FlyQuest.
The Baron is the next objective.
There's no chance FlyQuest can get in there.
Isles is holding the line against Gat, or Griffin.
So then instead they'll just go for the kill onto Isles,
take out the Poppy, and now the Baron's low.
There was actually a small window there, maybe.
Magic could happen, but no, it is Baron secured for Lyon.
Iles gives his life to make sure they get the Baron.
Could have been a steal opportunity.
I just really like everything about the way
Lyon played out the extended fight here.
So St. he doesn't get followed up upon,
but then the patients here to just like not give Olaf
good targets and the amount of magic damage
St. actually manages to get onto the Olaf is really good.
Prox the passive once there continues autoing
as inspired ultimate damage.
Berserker never presenting himself as the target.
He's basically been almost full health in every single fight this game.
So Lyon is playing really good discipline League of Legends.
And then Saint jumped over the Dragon Pit wall and they lost track of where the Aurora was,
thinking of the front to back.
Oh, really well played by Saint.
6-0-4 on the Aurora.
And now it's desperation time.
So Griffin's hoping that some squishy dude walks down here and doesn't have friends.
Only one, please.
Please, one time.
OK.
Was he just spotted right there?
No, it doesn't look like it
This is crazy. It's a double-bush stack. So they have three in the top bush. Alright, it's not gonna work
Yeah, I mean, same thing as it. Oh, big chunk on the Omasu. One weird name.
You kind of have to do some stuff like that.
I tried something.
They still don't see Gurbant!
Duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh.
Ah, okay, now they should see him coming up here.
To what's said, they just fold, send it on a monster.
AD carries down, teleports in from the rest of FlyQuest,
and now Griffin, the long con, not paying off so far,
but he does get out of his Urk or Flashback from the Bears.
Now, Gakos can free fire onto him.
Kari finally killed the carry.
He's still alive for now. CC immune, but again, not damage immune.
Inspired will get that one, as the Lyon are crushing everybody
On Fly Quest, a double kill to Inspired!
As he flashes the wall for the follow-up, they'll crush the team fight.
Long death, Piper's and a Baron buff.
28 seconds on Moss, who quads to the Live with no AD carry.
Might be a little tight, but Lyon is pretty close to taking this game.
It seems like this is the push.
They have the Baron and Powered Wave.
It's only an Ori left the Live with no ultimate.
Has Flash and the Zonias.
So maybe Quad finds some miracle right now,
But everyone still full health bars uses the stasis uninspired second ultimate in the fight flashes back to safety
No chance of survival fly quest taken down again lion
The team that we were promised is showing its fangs today to oh in the series one more game
From the sweep to eliminate fly quest from LCS lock in Kobe and at the very end a little kiss from inspired
He flashes the fly quest logo
go versus his old team. One more game lounge. Who is going to take it?
Well, let's say you could say it's looking one way so far. Emily, you ever thought on
that one?
I'm a lot of thoughts. I should have stuck with the prediction that production gave me
instead of telling them the big hot air frown.
You should have lied.
It is not looking good for FlyQuest.
And I'm going to go into a play that went perfectly wrong for the, to start off, I think here they really want to be able to make a play onto Dokla, they want to be able to make this Olaf strong and additionally, early on, Dokla did get into a really great position off of an early gank.
So, as we play this through, the big thing that I want people to notice is that Berserker
has taken teleport.
So, he is in a really good spot and he has the teleport summoner, which is going to come
up very important in this teamfight as we see.
Flyquests think they're going to have this collapse.
St. is following, and most importantly, even though they get to kill onto Dohkla, Berserker
is already TPing in here and inspired is going to head up this way. So they are going
to have an insane little combo here with inspired going in killing Gakos immediately. Berserker
is great TP and then St. being able to clean up this kill here. So it already did not get
off to a great start. As people may know, I'm an ADC player. I love taking TP. Not necessarily
for that reason, it's more for leaning, but we're going to do a handoff, so Raz can cover
another good play from Lyon.
Yeah, let's just talk about Lyon just a little bit more here, I'll get into my clip.
The clip that I wanted to be able to present is me, FlyQuest gets basically strangled around
Drakes, and it feels like the patience that's coming through from Lyon is something that
we didn't see in the beginning of the weeks, and I just want you to track on specifically
cryogen cryogen and how they play around drinks because he gets targeted with the
pope company we have from various and saying saying does an excellent job just
basically zeroing in on where cryogen is moving as they're getting a setup here
so when you see the movement from cryogen coming made he gets trunked once
more it just happens again and again to a point where it's like can I even enter
safely because you can see various cute coming through another e coming through
from the from Saint here and it makes it really tough for cryogen to be able to
hold this space in the banana bush and so it's getting really difficult to be
able to play up against Lyon's composition you can see inspired walking
up to kind of just decrease the slow on cryogen make them a little slower
easier to be able to take apart and so at this point now free spring you have a
situation where cryogen is completely pushed out of the banana bush the Ari
cannot step up, you have no idea how I got here. Exactly. It's a 5v5, the problem is the three are
separated. So Inspired says, you know what, this is a pretty easy fight from here, so he just pulls
the trigger and takes it on towards Masu, because Masu's already gotten chugged out by the Varus E,
and he gets followed up on by Aurora, just finishing them off. So like this for me was excellent
patience from Lyon to recognize that they have an excellent poke comp, they don't have to pull
trigger immediately. This is something that we had criticisms toward them in the first three weeks
and in this game in particular it has felt really ironed out. Yeah I thought they played it really
really well. Stainton gets player of the game performed excellently on the Aurora but honestly
it just felt like a really hard draft for FlyQuest to win with. Yeah I was way more of a fan of their
game one draft but obviously they went full scaling they fought too much they lost. Then game two you're
going kind of this early game thing where it feels like the early game then went bad and it just felt
cook so fast because it never really felt like they were realistically going to be able
to get onto berserker who was positioning really well and you could not fight through
this Cassante and this Malphite.
They just didn't have the consistent damage.
Yeah, and the kind of advantage that I thought FlyQuest were going to have was going to be
their coordination because even in their losses they did look more well coordinated than what
we've seen from Lyon.
But as me and Raz kind of pointed out in these first two games, they're looking so much better
around the way they see the map.
And most importantly,
Saint and Inspired have been on the same page
in so many of these teamfights,
and it's been a huge difference maker.
And you can already see, from one perspective,
yes, Lyon is doing well.
From the other perspective,
Fly in their last three series,
including this one,
is having a very rough time.
Even in game one, when they're trying to play scaling,
a lot of the problems of not being able to play it patiently
has shown up in this game, in this series.
It's shown up in the last series as Cloud9.
The question is, is it only happening
versus the best team in the league?
No, it's happening consistently here.
It is, unfortunately, and they're going to have to try
to turn things around with a reverse sweep
if they want to be able to come back after this.
Game three is coming up.
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back everybody to game three of lion versus a fly quest to lead for lion right now which
means everybody here at the Riot Games Arena chair for fly quest I'm gonna need you to
make a lot of noise in this next game okay because they will need your help Kobe do they
have a chance is there a shot can we do this 5050 chance 5050 I like that when are they
done honestly though I think there is a high chance we get a Taliyah in this game yeah
So maybe they can put that to Lea tip to use in this very game as Midlane has been chopped down a little bit with the fearless pick.
And to Lea seems to be one of the main promising picks still up.
You can hopefully combine it with a Pantheon. Pantheon's probably going to be banned though, so we'll see.
I mean, the difference in how close game 1 was to how close game 2-1 was vast.
They can continue that difference.
Trending in the right direction.
maybe be a win for FlyQuest, but it's not looking that good to be completely honest.
They had a burst comp against an incredibly powerful frontline and Lyon has played these
games clean from start to finish.
Sanked for me as the player who's had the biggest improvement from what we saw early
in 2026 to what we've seen in this series.
So Lyon definitely in the driver's seat.
I'll also say Doka has been playing his laning phase much better and having higher impact
later on in the game.
mentioned it in that game too but the team is coming together for Lyon the
question on my mind was when are we gonna see Lyon's claws I think this
series we are seeing Lyon's claws and why so many people had them ranked so
highly on the preseason power rankings. Okay so Rumble and Vessa both still up
to Leah still up as we were going over Pantheon still up to me these four
champions all sounded pretty good and there's only three more bands left as
As we whittle it down you Nara already off the table so some of the bot lane priority
Well, there goes the Mbessa so rumble looking pretty good
Little bit more of a griffin man. I feel like getting Mbessa out of his hands
We've seen people ban it. We saw blabber pick it away from him last week
They've done a very good job attacking Griffin in draft ending game
I'm pretty sure dogal by the way just acknowledged the signs that were in the audience there one says pick Jayce
One says don't pick Jayce. Yeah
And I just so we showed that we showed dokel looking at the audience. Oh, okay. I think there's a conversation happening here
He's nodding all right, maybe fans reminder
Wait, that's a good point. We don't know which one he was going for all right
Well, Trundle ban here opens up tanks. So, you know your blind pig tank looking a lot better, too
I have to say pantheon. Okay. There we go. All right. Well
Oh, too late still stands very very powerful very strong, but yeah, nobody you know, if you have to definitely not gain through so
Okay, well up. Yeah rumbles also up. So there's kind of two big picks right now
The fly quest need to be looking at do they lock in the blind top for gackos or do they go for?
Neither generally speaking if they don't pick rumble Bokela will that's joke with cheer list
It's rumble scion Cassante and then the rest so
So with what has happened early on in the series, Rumble is what's left, and he's gonna
hover the Jace at the very least.
Yeah, there we go.
Is he gonna do it?
Everybody?
Make some noise if you want the Jace.
Okay, that's a lot of noise.
It's a decent amount of noise.
Uh-oh!
What if you don't want the Jace?
Make some noise if you don't want the Jace!
That's about the same.
Yeah, about.
But Dogler doesn't know which question we asked him.
All he heard was the noise when the Jace was on board.
You can tell he was like, I need some more time to think about this.
Yeah.
But you got to pick.
Yeah.
Somebody else picked.
Tyree blind picked Jace at the very least as Corky is locked in for a Berserker in the
bot lane.
Wait, Jatt, do you want Jace or no?
Let's check Jatt, too.
Yeah.
We got to get everybody at home waiting in on this as well.
And Jatt, do you want Jace?
I wouldn't mind it.
I don't.
I mean, Dokely used to be the Jace guy.
I was going to say, do you want to add Jungle or a lane, though?
No, I mean, so here's the thing.
I want it so we get a game three.
I think it's not gonna work very well.
Oh, likewise, please.
I love the little dark circles.
It is her birthday reminder.
There's no way we get a three-0 on her birthday.
I'm not, I don't believe it.
I don't believe it's possible.
I still believe.
Me too.
All right, let's see it.
What are we cooking here?
Both the champions that I mentioned
have not been picked though.
The Rumble's also just falling.
either the Rumble or the Taliyah have been picked, so they're going Casio instead.
He's blind picked Casio, just against Wukong Korki.
That's crazy.
I mean, Quad, this is one of his comfort picks, so maybe the game plan here is like we're
down 0-2, let's pick Comfort.
Yeah, it's extreme comfort for him.
So, Casio picked Specialist here, and with a Zen, very fearsome mid-jungle.
There we go, now we're getting him.
All right, now does Jace counter rumble?
That's the big question now.
Can we lock it in here?
We're not seeing the Jace.
No. Sorry to say.
Wouldn't be surprised though if they do lock in this Nami
to pair with the Corky to make sure
they have a strong bottom lane.
So the Bands are gonna be a little bit different
in the four or five years since Lion has picked
AD carry support and then FlyQuest has picked
their entire top side.
I'm not a big fan.
We are our Gallio cross player.
I just did the little chicken call, I like that.
That was fantastic.
OK, we got a top laner and a mid laner here.
Hey, nice.
Are you duo?
What's your win rate?
Thumbs up, thumbs down.
55, I'm hearing.
OK, that's a pretty good win rate, if you're doing solo queue.
All right, well, a couple of bans now.
Next up on the docket here as we're into that second phase.
The Nami Corky for the bot lane means that FlyQuest can
counter pick, and Lion can ban out some chimp
they don't want to see down there, Nautilus,
first on the agenda.
Yeah, take away the point click CC.
I mean, Rumble comps, you gotta get a lot of good stuff
to hold people on your Rumble ultimate.
They're running double AP solo laners.
So whatever Dokla goes for, you know
he's going to be investing heavily into magic resistance.
I expect Dokla either going to be some sort of split push
chip or should just be a main tank.
I mean, you've got a Wukong and Anami already on your team,
provides a lot of structure.
But if you have a beefier main tank, then it all kind of fits together nicely, so.
And it also allows you to invest very heavily into some of that magic resistance, deal with both solo laners.
When they banned the Ornn, that would have been the tank boy that they would most likely play.
Galio has a good answer into Rumble though, and still up.
One member in the audience is pretty excited about that.
Galio will call him good combo, good into AAP specifically.
That's why I'm not a big fan of the Casio with the rumble because it just allows you such easy MR atomization
Yeah, they could technically pull this Gallio as a flex pick, but if they lock it it should go top
Yep, there it is Gallio locked in the birdie-o in the audience almost jumped out of his seat right there
Now can you get safe to use that skid we need to use the chicken
We got to use the chicken skin one of the refs on stage to the shoulder
Somebody tell us we got some important information. Yep. Yep. We need this to happen as it's Lucian
Sona
Locked in are you guys Sona believers shiver win rate in solo queue has been very high
I will say yeah the die them the new tier item. Yeah does help a lot for Sona stocks
I played one game of Sona got destroyed by a thresh
I stopped playing Sona, but the win rate has still been high across the board
And despite the kengis data despite my trying my absolute hardest to lower that win rate
With Lucian that's an interesting one for me
I you typically think of Lucian with things like the Nami this time explain into the Nami with that so but can't provide some of
That sustain that will help you survive this landing phase against corki Nami
I mean I'm here for it fly quest has had one unique pick in all their drafts trying to make things a little bit unpredictable
This is one of those picks though that you have to have patience with you need to wait for Sona to get gold
But as far as this season
You're in the birdie of chance. The audience is chanting birdie right now. I don't know the mics are picking it up
Yeah, there we go. Let's see. I don't know if the Doku heard that
Again, I would I'll take the heat if a ref wants to tap him on the shoulder and tell him to and we're not allowed to do
That blame me, but I just want to make sure we get the right skin here
Big Dokes is the closest to the audience.
That's a good point.
He's the most likely to be able to hear and respond.
Yeah.
He was reading the signs.
You have to get pretty loud to get through the white noise in those headphones though,
as they're designed so that you can't hear the audience very well.
He's got a chicken suit, gang.
He's got a chicken suit.
Yeah.
Just one little peek over.
All right.
Here we go.
Oh, it's deep.
Not pretty.
Bad news for the audience as it is default Gallio.
news for FlyQuest fans as they are down 0-2 in this series with their facts against the
wall.
I'm proud of serving against the Dukes now.
I think we got more FlyQuest fans as the series is going on here just because of that skin
choice.
But a loss means FlyQuest is done for split one and Lyon will advance to the lower bracket.
FlyQuest have to reverse sweep this series in order to keep their tournament lives alive.
And let's take a moment now to reset the expectations for FlyQuest.
I feel like this tournament this lock-in tournament things kind of got out of hand with the early success that they tasted
When this team was formed, this is the youngest roster when they're formed expectations everyone says, okay
It's fine very low. You know, we're they're gonna start slow. It's gonna take time
I like that they're investing in young talents and they're building for the future as Christ in
In pain in the present
But, he is Sona, charging his potion early on.
Anyways, they found so much early success in their early series,
that then the expectations started to grow to reflect those results.
And so, that's why, especially these last couple of series vs. Cloud9,
and now Lyon 2 very strong teams, people are reacting very heavily to these.
Well, bot lane is tough for Cryo, Jim, but I want to hear from Raz, who's standing by with Rain over.
That's right, I've got Rain over with me, head coach of Lyon.
First question, of course, has been let's just talk about the sonar. Is there any surprise with the draft so far?
Just taking a look at it. I mean, we were expecting them to play something like Lucian sonar because they want to have some early strength
Especially picking since I really didn't possibly really game so we were expecting something strong
But definitely didn't expect the Lucian sonar exactly, but yeah, we did expect and they just want to play a little bit more
Stronger and you guys look incredibly clean
I mean you guys had that one break period of course just like being able to scrimmage work through all the problems in the first three weeks
My question to you is, like, what specifically are you seeing on stage
that you're proud about being able to see this team perform on stage with?
I mean, I think the biggest difference is just we're just more on the same page right now as a team
because I would say the match we lost, like, a lot of things that we thought it was obvious
within each other wasn't really obvious when the situation changed for recently,
we've been matching our top forces better, so I think the games are looking more clean and makes sense.
All right, appreciate the answers. Thank you a lot.
You can head up back and I'll send a series back to the guesses
Thank you. All right
I always love hearing from coaches as well
And I think that he's echoing a lot of what we've been talking about the team is coming together and playing together much better
Than they were in those earlier weeks from the sideline. Yeah coordination definitely has been on display thus far
Interesting. We're actually gonna have both junglers recalling
So both of them going back for the early buys and now which one are you going to go for?
Mr. Inspired because very strange. He's resetting through mid lane.
So you always do want to use your home guards to maximum effect.
So you go down the lane before going into jungle and looks like they're both heading towards the bottom half.
I mean, Inspired does have his Raptors starting sooner, but we're going to all fight for it.
Inspired also has Isles in his back pocket.
Griffin's gonna wash into the Raptors.
Isles is still in the other brush.
Griffin in a numbers disadvantage.
Is it gonna happen again?
Can't even try to kill first blood to inspire.
How?
Well, once, Jett,
I quad's gonna go down too.
That's a double kill.
Will we step in times?
Double kill to inspire.
Every game, but I just,
this is the craziest one to me
because neither jungler does crab
and he just runs into Raptors.
Obviously over-reward,
so they know that he is invading.
And Spire has Griffin downloaded, and he's completely downloaded.
So I want to actually go back and look at, I want to go back and look at, did FlyQuest, did Inspire know that FlyQuest had vision of his first Raptor take, and know that Griffin had his second Raptor respawn timer?
We're checking.
Yeah.
Because that is something you can use.
Like, what is he doing?
Yeah, you can tell one of those junglers confused the other
Little disappointed did not work out how Griffin wanted it to I mean, it's exactly what happened
So I knew I knew that had to be the case here's here's the additional thing that really messed with Griffin is at level one
Not only does Griffin ward the Raptors, but he walks past a ward that sees him warding Raptors
So he didn't know that he was seeing Warden the Raptors.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
If Inspired knows that you are getting there
and it has this extra leverage of information
and they know that you didn't see,
then it's very predictable.
But it makes sense.
He did the Raptor crew the first two games.
Griffin says, I'm going to pull a fast one,
steal his second Raptor camp while he's doing a crap,
but completely downloaded.
Completely downloaded.
That's why you have to expect that ward.
So if you're going to do this,
you've got to go in sweeper, like sweeper active,
because you've been so telegraphed, exactly.
Oh, the second evade.
The second evade, they had a ward as well.
Yeah, the second evade.
Oh, we got a 1v1 top, by the way.
OK, no, never mind.
Keep going.
Yeah, now it's the.
I mean, it feels like the series is why we're spending
so much time on this, because it's this series.
It's the last series against Cloud9.
It's even the best 3 a little bit against Cloud9.
And it's, I don't know, it's one of a lot of people's favorite
parts about jungling are these like, you know,
the information wars, I guess.
You know, wars over information result in deaths like this.
And also the fact that this was the story coming in.
It's inspired versus his old team, inspired
versus a very young jungler who just got blasted by Blabber
for the last two series that he played against.
Like Griffin is still, I think, showing a lot of these signs
of still needing to learn a lot about how to play jungle
against the top in LCSs.
He started the dragon.
The Weaver's Wall comes in from St.
They're trying to push him off.
Isle's coming up as well.
and Masu are trying to link up with their jungler right now and looks like it was a leash for inspired for now
But line are naming to go for it said Masu is getting damaged onto Berserker, but no man. I mean, he's gonna have to back off
That dragon's gonna reset. Actually, everyone's gonna be recalling junglers aren't level six yet
So a little bit of calm there not letting Griffin solo the Drake
It's gonna mean inspired gets a top crab for sure because everyone on Flakos had to reset
Tokla's throwing up the white flag, walking back into lane already. I feel like, yeah, he's feeling it right now.
She's moving and grooving as Cryogen half health here, just trying to keep that wave frozen for his AD carry who had the back.
And, uh, yeah, I mean, the two kills, it's all that Inspire's picked up so far, but he's still almost a thousand gold lead at seven minutes,
and still just very efficient passing afterwards regardless.
I mean, it feels like such a crazy story that has just gotten out of control.
You should talk about what we just went back and saw again though, because there's enough
there.
Again, so the ward that is put by Lion is placed by Saint.
So Saint is up there.
Talk about the level one ward.
Yes, the level one ward where you're like, alright, this Griffin guy is always coming
to, you know, for Raptors, right?
So it makes a lot of sense to have one of your teammates defensively ward the opening
for your Raptors.
same place as it and as he places it Griffin walks up so there is a red ping on it so they
actually knew. So FlyQuest know that st used his ward to watch Griffin go in and ward the raptors.
So you should know for sure. Inspired is not going to let you get away with that for free.
It makes it even crazier that he then went back for the reinvade without even sweeping.
But just add that to the first game when he walked over a ward with the sweeper,
Hit the ward, knows it's a known invade, so it's weird because this is a guy Griffin, he does have so much talent.
Yes, mechanically in big team fight moments, yes.
But honestly, even when he was playing last year in Brazil, like, good pathing, smart about the game,
he's just very tunnel visioned right now on these early game moves that are costing him hugely.
And then you need to coordinate with your bottom lane too. When stuff like this is happening, you have to say,
can enemy support also be here?
Yeah, right?
And enemy support can also be there and is there.
And you know, it was close.
Yeah, I also had to flash over the red wall,
but anyways, get back to the game at present here.
They linked up that time.
The bot lane did roam up to help out,
take that first dragon.
So it is still a relatively even game.
It's not like a line have like continued
to push the advantage,
but two kills early on in Wukong is still fantastic.
Yeah, and on the bright side,
Masu, Kraujen, doing well on the Zone Illusion.
Interesting how Ranoverse said they're going to try something strong like Zone Illusion.
I think that's more because they have range.
Because typically I also think that Sona has incredible scaling.
So, pretty big fan of the lane so far.
Ooh, they throw out the ultimate, answered by Isle's big damage onto the Nami.
They don't have the wave behind it.
Griffin is coming around from the flank.
Look at Isle's flashes in and will pick up the kill secure.
Nice, they play very heavily to bottom side.
Of course this one grew.
Currently inspired is taking the Krugs from Griffin
on the top side of the map,
and Griffin isn't actually staying down here to do the same.
So he will lose out on one camp,
but gets down there, gets a kill on the board to fly quest.
Much needed action right there.
And I echo your sentiment there, Jaffa.
When I think of Sona, I think of a scaling support
that will just get to two, three items.
You, once you get enough levels,
you just buff your team so much that you'll never die.
But you can also try and trade health bars with opponents and really put them in positions like that
Yeah, and when you pair with illusion is where the real magic happens you so your cube on powers his autos
Yeah, ma ma su on the Lucian
Getting a lot of the poke damage down there for a lot of these trades and opening up the opportunity
For Griffin to get a kill. Yeah, despite that kill, of course
You know will Kong's already got a 20 for us because he had two kills early and he's got the camp lead on top of
of those guys.
And Sparrow's going to be trying to snowball this game,
and he's going to be very strong.
Like a strong Wukong against Lucian Sona,
incredibly scary when you can dive in with Taliyah Galio.
That's a future problem.
So they're going to try and get as much of an advantage
as possible while Inspired's hitting those level power
spikes, because getting the first drake,
and then also Griffin, playing around bot side
and instead of playing around top side, huge improvement.
Like I really feel like they need
to try and play around Masu potentially carrying the game.
Yeah, that future problem you're talking about, the Wukong with the 3 and 4 sides fed, also is going to have a Galio ult attached to him when he goes through the ult, so that problem is going to be a big one.
It's a future one, but it might be a large.
Not a now problem.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, but the funny thing is, it could be a now problem, because when I think of the 3 and 4, I'm like, that's the problem now, guys.
wherever he decides to go could actually just kind of snowball the game as
teleport comes in from doklah topside Gakos will use his ultimate to push out
the wave and go for his own reset now so just pushing in these waves from both
sides Griffin's looking for a cheeky little lane gank I like this too he used
the sweeper he knows for sure no wards on the side lane brush question is like
the berserker and Isle's actually given opening here because they just get
beginning to push in the whole time. Are we going to just brush this dive? Bubbles down? Nah.
They still have the tidal wave. There's no flash on Isle, so if Encore lands, that's the signal to
go. Is it just waiting for the expector Wukong gank down there? Because Wukong is counter-jungling
again. Yeah, double-crugging. Maybe their call was, hey, it's very likely Inspire tries to use
his ultimate and Trinity Force spike on us on bottom side. Griffin will make it in time to
the contest. Inspired has a level up on him and the Trinity Force completed so just jumps
over the wall and is out of there. He got there just in time to get all the gold from
the babycrugs though so not bad. Oh, Masu could be in some trouble though. Foss for
his bomb plus the rocket. Berserker's going in! It's Eiles with the kill but Masu taken
down. That's a big mistake right there while his
Sona wasn't based because he actually had the essence reaver which is I think why he
was feeling so strong since Berserker was stacking the tier didn't have Trinity Force
But who's their Grand Hector player?
Yeah, ooh, as Krajian looks for the Encore right there,
St. Will flash and go, so two summoner spells used defensively.
Yeah, good and necessary flash from St. to live here,
Inspire goes on the endgame.
I mean, we see that the Sona is still behind him,
so this is really bold from Inspire.
Can he get the solo kill onto Grypton, though?
The damage is crazy!
Inspired!
Will have the backup of St. for the one for one,
but now FlyQuest with a 2v1, Isle's coming in
and powers St. to walk forward.
Throwed out the Unraveled Earth, decides to make some side step with a sword of Bali, should be enough Cryogen, just off to death by Saint Lion, win the Scrap at the Raptors.
Yeah, nice little force here from Inspire going in.
Uh, Doku up by the way, flashed and dead as well.
Oh!
So I don't think we caught, I think we'll have to investigate what happened there, because flashed down and dying and you see this rumble on the tower, so let's take a look here.
Gakko since level 11, as Doku is trying to shove in the way to get to level 11 as well.
Yeah, a nice step back from Gakos on that Justice Punch, kind of spaced in nicely, and you see the immediate turn to looking, it's like you're not going to get out of here.
And now he's just a no man's land, and Gakos is cycling his cooldowns very well, going to time his overheat with his ultimate right there, really perfectly done to get the kill on the base.
Big top dip there, big duck for Gakos.
We'll see if it turns into anything, because from this scrimmage right here, yeah, you know, Cryjin is going to go down and be the extra kill forcing.
Started by the force timer from inspired going in using his wu kong ultimate and back to dragon for Griffin though
This would be number two for fly quest the objectives have been flowing in
He has no crescent guard available
So if he gets piled on top of you could be in some trouble
But lion are not in a position to do so
Griffin has the squad behind him and it's gakos actually who was no teleport but was in fog
So lion respects the potential five before and just gives up the drake
He does have to give up a plate and a little bit of his lead to Dokla, but I think that's worth it to get the first two drinks of the game with Sonacop.
So also stacking up that tier has the first item completed and yes, it can give you some of that range and health trades in the early game.
It still does scale very well.
So Lion have multiple members top side.
Gakos could be in some trouble here.
Dokla's taking a lot of turret shots to set up his team for the damage, but Zercher will get the kill.
It's inspired with the credit and nobody falls on lion side. Yeah, I mean, they're gonna kind of trade
Tower sides here
But you get the extra kill for lion because they invest heavily in it they get there first they trap gakos
They take down the one person on fly quest who had a goal beat
This Griffin gets seismic shoved back
Say not gonna follow up the stun on the unravelled earth
But groups this point get some big chunk onto Griffin as yeah, let's see what happens with these turrets
It looks like moss is gonna get the first turret. Yeah, there we go
Big bonus here nice monster fly quest completely in this game
So unlike the first game that really felt like it got out of control after the you know
Scheduled fight between junglers around crabs
They've recovered pretty nicely in order to control the two dricks and have Masu and Gakos in good positions
The raptor graveyard
I guess it's turned into the raptor. We're gonna have to do a new stat now. There's no longer just the grub deaths
It's the enemy raptor deaths
It's the 3-4 minute jungle deaths.
Yes.
Concerning.
That was some great observing right there.
There was no tombstone, by the way.
Not yet.
Okay.
We'll work it out.
We'll get the map team on that.
Alright, well, let's take a look here at the big possibilities.
Inspired has level 11 and flash ready.
So rank 2 on his ulti and we're starting to fight.
Griffin takes the hex gate in.
as the Crescent Guard trying to keep himself healthy,
but inspired over the wall.
Pinched by Gage lands this time.
Big chunk on to Inspired.
In comes the Gallio Ultimate.
Squad was able to kite back with Griffin in tow.
In comes the Nami.
Old Hick will only knock up on Griffin.
Double Tom from Dope Claw,
but the team has already left him.
Dope Claw falls.
Fly Quests get a kill.
Quad played that really well.
Getting the initial stun onto Inspired
and then just knowing exactly the range
of that Gallio Ultimate,
patiently waiting to do the re-engage.
Look like inspired will be happy with that fight anytime you get to one one against the Zen
He's a thousand gold ahead of but quad completely dominated there on Casio. Oh my good muscle
Got giga chunked. Yeah, that was a nice look there to pick up one kill finally something goes the way of fly quest here
Still don't have the gold lead though. It's 1,000 in the pocket of lion and Kobe. That's all inspired still
He almost was able to take down Griffin in that moment, but just wasn't quite enough damage
Yeah, I mean he flashed to start that play and so Griffin had a really good response flash
He flashes out of the Gallio ult coming down and then your your casio and your rumble damage there
Gatkos also on display and fly quest able to keep the gold leap
Within reach while having the stacking dragon TPed on by doklah though in a 1v2 as his enemy is also getting the
objective so Harold and a potential pick here quad has petrifying gaze might
have to hold it if you can get some big damage on the same walks back into the
seismic shop that was in the brush lion pick up another kill this time to say
just a nice TP there by Dope by having the timer quad would have had to just
stay under turret in that situation but they lost track of him a little bit and
it's a very easy kill yeah nice little flick back I imagine he walked back into
Because it was in the brush because otherwise maybe there's a change the bush. Yeah, maybe there's a chance that quasi able to
You know, you don't like how I say
Yeah, you got long use always as an inspired because a big chunk of the Masu I
Mean I still feel like this rumble is gonna be a problem gakus continues to rake in money
He just got another tower on top side tower isolated there for gakus
So maybe that maybe this is Gakos time is a little 14 on rumble
We've all been there in a new season when a top laner gets out of control, you know
And the top enemy top laner ends up level 20 while your level 11 can mad to persistence counter rumble
I think it's a question here because Gallio's gonna keep building it
We already got the upgraded merc treads for saint. Oh, and they have healing. I feel like no actually
You know, we've got we've got double AP on the side of
of FlyQuest, when we start to get some magic shred going for our side too.
Oh yeah, blood that is cursed from Casio, I can see that. Or from Rumble.
Yeah, I mean when you even factor in Sona damage, like later the game goes, you will be adding some AP to the rest of the team, so.
More magic, or is this the better for Lyon?
I mean a potential soul point fight right here, they're at a pretty powerful moment with Gakos having level 14, two items on Masu and Berserker.
We're seeing it from Lyon's vision right now. They have a flanking ward if they want a TP in 4, but everybody's already here
It's gonna be a 5v5 potential at the dragon weaver's wall to cut off gakos and cryogen
Three members of flying out in the dragon pit. We're gonna ride in the herald for the engage get on top of quad
Inspired to get the kill as berserker with the credit grip impressing out to try and stay alive
Has the back of the team boxes free firing onto the jungler, but it's not enough to everybody get tundered on my donklaw
It's fired, still alive!
Just cannot die, as finally he will go down,
but Lyon's still running away with the team
by Dragon secured for FlyQuest, but they will get aced here.
Bubble sides up by Cryo Gym,
but you can't dodge all the damage.
Satan will pick it up on ace for Lyon.
Or objectives for FlyQuest and gold for Lyon.
Berserker also gonna be able to farm up the plate,
gonna be able to take your Raptors on the way out
to increase the gold gains.
You've got, Black West are just gonna have to bank
on rolling high, on like a dragon steel
for a dragon soul or something.
A lot more gold.
Look at Gakos in this fight though.
He's the one that wasn't able to get involved
even though he was the most fed member.
Originally gets cut off by the Tleol.
And then he just, he's like, I need to get into the fight.
Let me take the portal.
Yeah.
And then flashes in afterwards.
If you can't have a fight where Gakos is able
hold this space up here and stop them from flying in then the people that are in the Drake pit are
going to get absolutely annihilated. So just a well played fight there by Lyon just fighting around
the fed rumble. Yeah they need like a flash Sona ult to hold people for rumble ultimate or something
for some timings. I mean quad is really low already inside the pit and so Inspire just able to drive
the rift hailed into the pit. Yeah he doesn't get the the smite timing there but then pops out able
able to take down the Casio and the rest of Lyon here,
increasing the gold lead.
Still though, FlyQuest are thinking,
maybe we can leverage this dragon soul to save the series.
I almost feel like.
Hex Dragon's kind of good.
I almost feel like they need to give up a couple of them.
Because I think if they fight the next one, it's toast.
I mean, it looks like they're going in onto Dockla right now.
All that magic was just picked up as Oquad finds
inspired as he hex gated in.
but the clone's able to get him back to his safety.
Griffin, hey, he got a camp.
He just stole the Krugs.
He did?
Yeah.
Hey, it counts.
You got to count those ones.
As FlyQuest are still 4,000 gold behind.
So they're looking for plays, and that's
something that I can say about FlyQuest confidently,
is that they got that fight in them.
They got that dog in them.
They will not stop looking for angles
and looking for ways into this game.
Sometimes it's to their detriment,
but hey, at least you would rather
have a team that will keep fighting than a team that
we'll just do nothing.
We're, if Black West are gonna have like decent conditions
to fight that dragon soul,
they really can't get picked in the next two minutes.
This Taliyah is fed.
This Taliyah is fearsome.
I mean, Saint has eight stacks on his dark seal
in addition to the big gold lead that he has.
So you cannot let anyone get picked off by this Taliyah
preemptively here before dragon.
You honestly don't even want anyone having to flash
in the next two minutes before this.
I mean, Kobe, you're saying this Taliyah is fed.
This Taliyah is fearsome.
This Wukong is fed.
This Wukong is fearsome.
This Corky is fed.
They're all sitting on three, I mean,
three full items on the Wukong and the Corky.
It's Taliyah that isn't completely on void staff yet.
He may be before this fight,
currently sitting on 1100 gold.
So they're sitting on some big power spikes right now.
I'll say the eight stacks of Dark Seal count
as Griffin can't even get his own red buff.
It's taken by Inspired right there.
Now Griffin chunked out as he has to walk away.
Inspired has just done this game after game after game you get the early lead
You take away all the camps from your opponent and now the team's on Baron
All right this Baron force with their item power spikes knowing they chunked out grip and going there's no advantage
This could be the fight they need before Drake turn in on the monster flash away
But the guy on the quad the cashew PS taken out before the fighting begins as my Susan's in trouble as well
Both the carries are down
And Lyon with two quick picks as they use the Baron as a magnet to pull FlyQuest in.
Gonna turn back into the purple worm.
Yeah, great instant turn there.
You can tell the call already.
I mean, if we get the comms listening, you know they're looking at it from the very beginning.
They take down Mossy.
They take down the rest of them too.
Nothing for FlyQuest to say about it.
Baron for Lyon.
And 40 seconds away from Dragon Soul.
Just it was a cherry on top.
It's perfectly done.
Ryan team is playing Immaculate Macro.
Dokla waiting in the bush beforehand.
They have the vision control.
Once they walk past the ward, they just go.
Inspires leading the way along with Dokla.
The Taliyah ult also catches Cryo Gym,
just totally destroying them.
And the crazy thing here, Kovic,
we saw three weeks of Lyon where Inspired
was just playing with the team for the first time
and they were just trying to get people on the same page.
And we know that Inspired loves playing slow control games
for his carries aren't making mistakes.
Both his mid and 80 are dentless this game,
and they're fighting on all the right time.
Back to the Dragon Soul fight right now,
as FlyQuest have one last opportunity
to get back into this game.
That's a flash from Quad, away from the Unraveled Earth.
Watch for Inspired on the flank.
He's spotted by Gakko.
He's trying to get in.
Has the Galio coming in on top.
They knock up the Rumble.
Griffin's locked down as well.
Everybody turning in on the Masu.
As he got separated from the rest of the team
beyond Core and by some space,
the equalizer goes down.
FlyQuest might just be turning this one around.
Masi will go down big damage from Berserker and the Rockets are shredding them safe with a flick back.
Griffin goes down.
St. Isgodlike, Gatgoz will try and trade it back and Inspire and will get the shutdown.
But a consolation prize, double kill to Berserker and a double kill to St.
Lion, ace the team fight.
And that's gonna be the Dragon Soul as well for your reward.
Lion looking to wrap up this series. Here's another look at the start of the fight.
yet denied a soul here because Black West had been stacking them, but right here it feels that way the way the series we know Kobe it feels like line should have the dragon soul watching this they're running them down a slight window it felt like the fly quest could maybe turn it around, but inspired doesn't present
himself as a target. Once they get bossed you down it's only magic damage left. So saying is able to kind of face check in there get the flick and berserker gets that clean up.
Yeah, I mean the carriers are just so fed online here able to finish it off nicely
Walk on through and yes deny the dragon saw that had been building up and now it just feels so far out of reach
Yes, it was it was kind of like you were hopeful before maybe there's some little miracle. We can like steal something and
So it's been extinguished
And we are on the precipice of another 3-0 this super week
the week. Lyon versus
FlyQuest. If you had asked me coming into the weekend, which series do you think could go the distance?
This was my obvious choice. Yeah, I think that this is going to be five games between these two teams.
Lyon have shown up in a huge way to shatter those expectations.
They really have, because based on what we'd seen in Lock-In before this series, was a very inconsistent team
for Lyon. There were games where Berserker would be really fed, but there were also games where Doku
was losing lane massively, where Sane was getting picked constantly, and they didn't feel like they were playing the same
And then on fly quest side, even though they have flashes of brilliance did seem
Inconsistent and had just been slammed by cloud nine
So we weren't sure what's going to be first two week fly quest or the fly quest that played against cloud nine
And fly quest is kind of the fly quest we've seen the last two weeks
But mainly lion is playing so clean
They really have to me found the same page that they weren't on in the first three weeks and they're looking
I mean, yes, it's just one series
They're looking like a contender to win lock-in based off what we're seeing well with lion looking better with team liquid looking better
Lock-ins looking spicy. Yeah
We still have one more series tomorrow to happen with C9 versus the Sentinels and see if Sentinels can keep the name in the conversation
We're talking about the future because this game looks wrapped. I mean, it's a 10k gold lead
essentially here at
27 minutes in
It's gonna be two and a half minutes until that Baron comes up
So a little breather right now for fly quest, but it feels like mostly time for them to think about how this game got so far out of
Control, you know in this series
St. Right now has 28 kills in one death. I was gonna say last game
I'm pretty sure it was death being game one where he flew under the turret
That was the only kill the fly quiz got game one
They're looking for another one right now, but the weavers won't walking off the escape path
Masu throwing out the cold trying to get some range damage for the teleport fling from don't play gets on to the carry
In goes Inspire as well. The clean up from Lyon. A clean. Zero for five eighths. They don't even need the Baron.
They just needed that one last team fight to close this one out. A wave is waiting for them to push in the mid wave.
They have absolutely dominated. They have changed the narrative about Lyon in Lock-In. They have destroyed Flyquest.
Lyon on the same page and they just demolished them 3-0.
We are seeing the fangs.
Lyon, take the series 3-0.
OK, I mean, it seems like business
is usual much different than they were looking
after their struggles and loss to DSG.
Spam chat for who your player of the game is.
Inspired did work, but I think there's
arguments for Saint and Berserker here as well.
Wow.
This did not go how I expected it to go.
A 3-0 in that dominant of a fashion.
From the squad that had struggled up
until this specific weekend.
They just played better as a team and as individuals.
So they approved across multiple metrics here.
It's a very great time, which makes
me super excited for the rest of this lock-in tournament.
As we see, Lyon will move on.
And, Jack, you'd mentioned before it's getting spicy now,
Because who is the team that's going to challenge C9 so far?
They've been dominant, but there's a lot of teams now in this final push putting in an argument.
It can be us. It can be inspired on stage with the Zale.
Thank you here with inspired. You just swept your old team 3-0. Was it easier than expected?
So talk to me about the series because it felt like you guys were completely dominating.
it felt like we're seeing a better version of Lyon than we'd seen so far in the Lock-in tournament.
I think no one was inting hard, so it was quite easy to play. And I mean, I kind of know well
how Griffin plays. I feel like all these new junglers like Griffin and Cryera in the league,
they are kind of trying to copy me. So it's like easy for me to predict when they are going to go
for the place and what is like in their mind or how do they want to play the game. And I think
I think they are doing really well, but they are just a little bit too aggressive sometimes.
And I think all the plays that Griffin went for in this game that kind of threw them every single game was pretty good.
I think just the execution was a bit wrong.
Like, I think the plays that he was going for were kind of necessary, but he could have played it a little bit better and the game wouldn't be as easy for us.
But I feel like every game when they made a mistake,
I just made sure that I'm strong in the game
and that the enemy jungle doesn't get much gold to get back in
and that the games are going to be clean.
Because I feel like if we'll make one mistake against this team,
they will actually be really strong.
So we have to keep our focus all the time.
Well, you guys played a really clean series.
Next up, you're going to have Team Liquid.
So it's kind of the battle of two teams
that were surprisingly in the lower bracket, right?
You know people had you guys and TL is pretty highly ranked. How do you see your matchup against TL?
I mean honestly, I think TL should be easier to beat than FlyQuest.
I think, I mean TL is a team that doesn't really play meta. They play very heavily around bot, which I don't think is correct right now.
And I think their series against DSG like they could have easy loss, but I felt like Morgan is just doing so much heavy lifting.
like he no matter what matchup he's playing he's just winning his lane really hard and that made
the game for DSG pretty hard um so yeah I think against Team Liquid I would have a bit different
approach to the game than than I had against FlyQuest but I think we should know how to beat them
well we're gonna look forward to that congratulations inspired 3-0 dominant performance
back to y'all at the lounge
my goodness. I always love hearing from his fired honestly just because he always has like a lot of insight in terms of how he's going up against his opponents and I like that he also did praise while simultaneously pointing out the flaws of how Crieron specifically in this game Griffin were kind of approaching the early game.
just trying to copy me.
They're making mistakes along the way.
Like that is a really cool, and also yeah,
the praise I think is interesting,
saying he had the correct idea,
but like wrong execution.
Like that's nice to be able to come out and see that.
So it's like compliment and also be better kind of thing.
Who's you have for Pollock?
Ooh, I mean, I just had it.
Player of the Game, Player of the Series, I had both.
I mean, we'll see what the tabulations are
the series, but for player
the game has to be inspired.
He's also a player of the series.
He must have won player of the
game in Game 3 as well.
19, 3, and 24
in this series.
And I mean, again, we talked
about the lessons that Griffin
would have had to learn from
going up against Blabber.
Inspired also really, really
predicted exactly what he was
going to do. And it was just the
edition of everyone being on the same page like Rain Over said. The fact that
Inspired is playing well is not surprising that had been the case in the
first three weeks. It is literally the fact that he is on the same page with
the rest of the team and also Sane's playing much better than he did before.
So this team just looks like a completely different animal and he had a full
read on Griffin. So the fact that he said you know they're copying me that
kind of idea I think the concept is like hey if you know he's going to
I'm going to sit right next to
Raptors. I know the timing.
I'll be there for it. So it
looks like this one for the
player of the game for this one.
The fans had it as mid lane
Saint. So and I really honestly
I really loved seeing Saint
really rebound in this series.
It felt like he was struggling
a lot in their prior series,
not just with linking up but
making really in my opinion
uncharacteristic individual
that were absolutely short up today and on top of that he looked really well
coordinated with inspired and the rest of the team and it now means as we take a
look at this bracket this lower matchup is going to be an absolute banger with
both lion and team liquid three owing their opponents in really really
dominant fashion. We really do have sharks in the lower bracket this is the
first time I've experienced a situation where whoever is in the upper bracket is
being sent out in Sentinels is
sweating, right? Yeah. Because
like there is that series that's
going to happen tomorrow. Yes,
like between C nine and Sentinels
and whoever loses that has to go
up against a lion or team liquid
who look like completely
different animals. So there's a
lot there and I'm super excited.
I'm surprised because like when
I put in my prediction for three
one line, I didn't think it was
going to be this lopsided. Yeah.
And it just feels like this,
that one week break that both
that's what we're going to
talk about. We're going to
talk about what lion and TL
had really got them a chance to
sort through all their issues.
Yeah, we talked about the
roster construction. We're
finally seeing that in action
with this lion team. And as you
said, though, C nine Sentinels
tomorrow will find out who we
have for that series tomorrow
as well, because that's it for
us today. We'll be back
tomorrow at 4 PM Eastern. One
Bye-bye!
A lion yet to find its claws with pressure mounting, this would-be super team needs to
find their footing now.
When he's here, I'm going to ult in 10 seconds, when he's flanking, I have ult in 10, I'm
going to ult in 10.
Nice, push top, we can have you.
The slaughter of a game one with a 21,000 gold lead game one the lion
They drew balls already okay, yeah, look here look at cancer in a flash
It looks good
Keep playing slow the cork is really far
We're coming now
They took it
Thank you, so I think us flush. I'm thank you. Okay, just keep it again. I'm going now they have
Absolutely dominated they have changed the narrative about lying and walking. They have destroyed like west
Nice guys, let's go!
GDA!
He played really well.
I read this guy's mind.
He's such a rookie. He doesn't give double telemetry.
I mean, I respect that.
If he supports, can't experience to tell him what to do.
They don't be good. He's really aggressive. I like it.
Yeah, I think he's not bad too.
but like they're just not connected and they can't do that i think like this nice guys