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Whisper's going to use it to make the vacuum play, raw turn on Shadow Shaman, but XM's being blasted down,
bound up by the Trian Alti. They can't restore his health, and Shearow at half HP is going to TP out,
but Yuma's damage with Tylong takes both cores down.
What a time, go for the blink raw, but if DKB's up from Tylong, Yuma comes in with a batch and a few swipes on to Shearow to force him back.
Spear on Thielekoor is going to put the Shadow Sharpen in an awkward position, but heroic.
They're just going to stand together, fight together, arena there, but the Mars at the storm, they're going to fall in quickly.
BKB from Whisper, makes a jump in on the Shearrow.
Lincoln's pop though, passed over by the puck as Whisper, he speared up in the arena, blown up and killed.
Massive of VG Gaming, they now can come out of their base, deal with the Shadow Sharpen, kill off Thielekoor.
Human dropping low as well, but the second arena back is up and running!
XM makes the move on the field and core.
Arena Sphere onto Whisper, before he gets any spells off.
Can't BKB or escape, Shiro blows him off and the face of the Void Spirit is also taken down!
XM has gone in, toss the Shatterfiend back into Tier 3.
Humor's first life is down, but now with Whisper and Tylong coming in to kill off Y.
They can jump forward and help them out with a roar on the Phoenix.
Planners in trouble about to die, refresh up Tylong.
Can't finish the Phoenix.
A roar on the Windranger now where the souvenir becomes.
BKB Beastmaster on the run back.
Atlas Cross about to deal with him.
It's Humor, Requiem with a BKB to wind up and offer protection.
They've healed him up and Beastmaster's okay.
Whisper keeps tapped on Xero.
The damage is insurmountable.
The Windranger's being blasted by fire and flames.
Winrid is gone and Shaddape is taken out next year.
Tylong in the back, still alive?
How's he surviving?
Another Lotus comes in, he's kept up and running.
Heroic!
They've done it!
Beachy tap out!
The
Diving behind tier 3's at this point looking for the supports in the back.
They root up Makoto, Elendisc pops,
ravaged from 33 with a cataclysm to come. The damage is good and Makoto's done.
Tundra, finally getting something to go their way.
Gushing towards Mira, in the back. Parker opens up with the damage. WS, Elendisc, but hey!
Nullified and Primal Split required.
They'll turn back onto the Lunar with a damage from V-Tune annihilating Parker!
They still haven't taken the mega creeps, the buildings haven't focused much.
I've got nothing left somehow.
Let's keep refreshing it up.
The BKB windranger makes short work of the tide.
Shipping away with a focus fire, BZM bursts down the top left corner of our screens.
Found and killed, Deadman 90, no Lunar for a minute.
Tied in Warlock against the world.
the Roura 5 alive, ready to close out this game.
Jumping on to 33, another Ether-Ramon grab,
and simulating at a burst of damage on the tide.
K'ore Supernova, they're trying to fight
around the egg, BZM dives in deep,
they're aiming to finish off the Supernova
and get the job done, mirrors dropping low,
V2 nearly down as he's pummeled,
they're brought back in towards the Medusa,
Park just opens up with a right-click damage.
Ah, Tundra, they steamroll them.
They've bound up Makoto, trying to get off his Wukong's command and stay alive.
VTUNE's Boratime comes in, Kaori's died, Makoto on the run, back away as VTUNE blinks out.
Monkey might not be seen lucky though.
WS tries to hold them away as the shackled from Mira locks one in place, but the dive
back out of the Shadow Sharman, it closes the game.
Tundra!
They've wrapped this one up.
The ball lightning, he's kind of searching for this nix assassin, but Rue hiding himself
in between the two or four towers.
They get the cone of pants, or they get a catchy lick on a Yatoro.
Damage followed up, Aon just popped.
So now Miro's going to be able to pop that BKB and stay the face of the side,
Miro's on the side of Team Spirit.
They get underground, but things are heavy when you're underground.
Snake, a mystic snake doing so much to Laurel to get that kill out of the last track.
And with the gem, they see the mix of saps,
and meaning Rue's got no options, but to die.
I need John Cataclysm blows up GPK, they go to the primal ward, it's out of the necroman,
where can you go?
Nowhere.
Onslaught, M. Nero's dead, two heroes die on the side of Betboom, and they can potentially
look for more Golem taking this tower, and then they've got the pulverize again, Kedomi's
going to be dead to the Golem of Panto.
Let's see what they now save.
What's there?
It's really due.
Hex, the calling.
It's down. It's silencing, but where's your damage? You'll pierce the veil, but can you pierce the lives of these heroes up?
Spirit! It's a full team wipe for Team Spirit.
They're gonna make a move with the BKB. They've got the Junko on it too, but there's the spotlight onto Laurel, and now
they'll have to double-last them, but where's the damage following up? The Ice Pass.
They're supposed to be there for them, but here she's just gonna go after the Morphling.
You two are taking too much damage. She's gonna be silenced up. Time walk away. There's the Chrono.
It's going to be thrown to the morphing, they'll get the kill!
He's dead for a knight, he has buyback, uses it immediately.
Face shift to loser, you are back out of the high ground, but Kyrgyz, he's coming in.
It's all a fed boom. They're the killer clowns from outer space, infading the base of spirit.
They get the kill to Pantel, he's gonna buy back two.
Down goes Yatoro, he's gone for so long, the fed boom symbol is all over their base.
over their face.
Dream Coil are on the back line looking for the Oracle, gets to go to Katomi who did buy
back.
But now where do you focus your attention?
As they'll use the hacks they've got, the Spirit's going to be in the control to collapse.
He's still alive.
Now the lasso, can he drag them all the way back into the fountain?
Oh, Keratich on the steps, able to time walk back towards the throne.
Flame break lands to get the Aegis out of the hands of this faceless void.
Rule is here with a swiver of alpha.
The Spirit Vest is on him and the extra step from GBK is there.
Time lock in, time lock out.
Throne gonna be focused, that's gonna be the game
and Bet Boom take the series, two-one over Spirit.
them where immediately. Sunray on top of the Mars, tofu dead, four heroes gone. Now the
Aegis is going to be expiring, they're going to go to the ravage, it's going to be perfect.
Can they get the finish off on a once in a day? They get the kill on a once in a day.
He's not going to do anything about it. They've got some good shards down. Tier Junior's stunned
though. He's getting the damage and they will kill off Mickey. Ace is going to die. Now the
stop through. He's just dead. They don't need the Luna. This DK, he's a knight in shining armor, but not
solid enough armor when they're unable to kill these heroes. No look, no cutscene.
Can he get it off? Can he get the same technique? He can. The damage off. Life stealing.
But he's still not life stealing a lot, and not life stealing enough. So he'll end up losing his
first life when they don't have any shades. Gonna be dead for two minutes. Can they follow this up
with anything more from the side of Liquid? They are running out of steam.
Refresher ready.
Junior in the back.
An automatic, but doesn't quite matter.
He's in the face of these heroes, stopping them from going in on the Watson,
who's tearing down these two or four towers, gets himself one, will turn second.
Ace doesn't have ravage, throw an exposed.
Yandex will get a 2-0 to finish the night,
and they get this one without the flowing spirit and the controls.
A little bit lacking, especially without the ravage.
The go, the jump, now they've got the workhorse.
They'll pick him up in the cart, they'll drop down the eclipse,
they're gonna be on a big A, they'll get the go, the DK, and that should be it.
This should be wrapped up in a nice bow for Yandex and it will be GG is called 2-0 for Yandex as they defeat Liquid.
Good morning and welcome to the Panultimate Day of Fiji O'Lachia Season 7
and there is a lot to talk about, a lot to discuss
Because yesterday we had a bunch of results that, well, maybe you raised some eyebrows here and there.
We're going to talk all about it here with TGuff and Gunnar, Gunnar, how are you doing this morning?
Doing good. I'm excited. These games today all look amazing, so I'm just really excited for today.
I mean, I wasn't really, like, I just didn't expect to at least explain, you know, liquid down here, right?
Liquid already being in the lower bracket after everyone hyping them up.
We're going like, ah, they're probably grand finals bound. No, they're not. They're in the lower bracket.
I think there were a lot of people myself included at that were thinking team spirit and liquid especially after the group say they were like you know what they they should be cruising it as we can see them cruising through the bracket not they fell down hard they they got they got figure out and rather than you know even one of the two making it through neither of them made it through that upper bracket that was I think the some of the
bracket. That was, I think, some of the biggest upset I feel like we've had, Tigo.
Yeah, I mean, BB have been this team where against Na'Vi, we were like, how good is
BB because Na'Vi didn't really draft play very well. And then against Herod,
Herod didn't really draft and play very well, so how good is BB? And then they go up against
Spirit, who has been drafting pretty well. I'm playing pretty well. And now you're like,
ah, okay. No, they're actually a pretty good team. Like, clearly. So, yeah, very well deserved,
you know, top three placement for them at the moment.
But there's just something around, to be clear,
I think their supports are the best support you
in the tournament so far.
Like the way that they are playing the first six minutes,
I'm not looking at other supports and going,
they're as consistent, they're as good, they're as clean.
But the way that save and Katoomi are
making these early moves,
they're just pretty much giving GPK
like the freest game it feels like every time.
Yeah, they have been looking good
and that is of course all without their coach
for a 4BB team, but he's on call.
He's on call.
He's on the little call.
He's on call.
Not during the draft, but during like post-game,
pre-game, he's able to be there.
Draft prep, I'm sure he can like send them,
be like, hey, guys, print out all these papers.
Follow this pit, yeah, yeah.
The float chart.
I mean, that's the worst thing for a manager.
It's, you just get a thing from your coach
and it's like six pages and you have to find a printer
in time and you're like, can we get this in color too?
I've heard complaints about this.
Is it that important? I guess it's like a dot above screen, Glantz Valley,
getting like radiant dire.
Yeah, yeah, I guess you know it's very important.
I mean, black and white usually works.
So what is here to get?
Yeah, I mean in regards to Betboom and Yandex also there in the conversation,
we should look at the group stages because the reason why we had all these expectations
from Liquid and Spirit was out of the Swiss group stage where we had Betboom,
boom they had to go all the way to the final day to be able to make it out into the playoffs.
Yandex obviously made it a day earlier than that but also wasn't really like they're playing with
the stand-in so that wasn't necessarily nobody put them in the top three I think. That's because
Yandex also kind of went through they lost to Heroic and then they kind of went on like the
anti-stand-in run right they beat Falcons the stand-in team they beat Aurora the stand-in team
So they kind of we had like this no, that's para vision. No that pvg. No, I was yandex am I blind?
Oh, yeah, Nick's is beating para vision day three day four. Oh, I'm blind. Yeah, my bad. Yeah, my glass not good
Oh, well, they didn't be the stand-in run. Well, it looked like it was a stand-in. Yeah, that's fair
They beat like two stand-in teams. Okay, right? So
Decent amount of stand-ins for yandex who also have stand-ins the points invalid back to you shiva. No, it's it's very good
I mean para vision itself
It looked like they had stand-ins on my right guys
They lost two standard teams in a row with the Roar there as well, so no, I will say I'm thoroughly impressed with the performance of both teams, but I think also if we take a step back, it kind of reiterates the fact that we've been saying this for a while, I guess, at the moment, the playing field looks fairly even, and it's easy to forget that the playing field is even.
Yeah, I think to me the last year like about 12 months has been the most
consistent
Just like strength of teams. Yeah, the past there's always like a top two top three teams that you're looking at and being
These guys are the best. They know what they're doing
They know what they're picking everyone's copying them and this time's like well
Maybe consistently gonna be a top four team, but then liquids also top 14
you have so many teams that you want to call a consistent top four team that
there's just not enough slots in the top four.
Yeah, and that's where you have to give a lot of credit to, you know,
like, BB a team without a coach, having to do like the online calls,
which are knowing Yandex playing with a standing, like,
what they're being able to do in this tournament and craft like these runs,
it's just very impressive.
And like, I like when I look at Yandex as full, I see DM through Yandex already.
Like, when you look at this, I'm like, hmm, is DM on the roster?
Because I think that alone is already just like, it's so proof that modern day teams
can adopt stand-ins and it doesn't actually break a team.
I think when you look in the older times of Dota, it was maybe more volatile, but now
they do it.
So if you respect the player, understand them, and just put them in with their hero pool,
you can do really well.
So yeah, Yandex, just making sure DM is just feeling very comfortable.
I think there's this cool thing, kind of like a switch in pro Dota, like the mentality.
I think a long time ago, it was kind of, let's say like Mipo is a good example.
It's like, oh, we have to learn Mipo.
We have to be a Mipo team and learn all the strategies, and everyone had to be on the
same page but then nowadays I think the mentality has switched more towards
individually playing your hero correctly and if all five people are playing the
hero correctly then it works together which makes it easier for these
standings because like let's say the brewmaster if they weren't going to
originally pick brew it's like oh we have to learn how to play around a brew
we have to do this thing it's just you know DM play brew do your thing he's
gonna show up to the right fights he's gonna buy the right items if I buy the
right items if I show up to the right fights then it's gonna be cohesive you
can also argue Dota at the moment doesn't really test like creativity too much
in regards to what they need to do in the map, because it's like, you are going for
Wisdoms, you are going for Tumenta, you know the rush and time will be between a
15 and 20 minute window of the game, maybe post-20 if it doesn't get
contested, but it's like, you know, it's not as if a stand-in has to go, oh god, this
team is used to making these sweeping map players and these smokes and these
halvations, like, no, you are just kind of following the every competitive team
script, you're just doing it slightly differently, but it's like doing it based
on your hero. How are you playing? Exactly, so that is like one maybe kind of
negative towards tormentors and all this stuff it's just the macro play is the
same for everything until after like 20 minutes I think yeah the first 20 is
very scripted the post 20 that's when you see kind of like the personalities of
teams and players really get tested yeah and I and I do think that we see in the
in the hero pools that we see there's a very clear identity for both of these
teams and they're doing it in their own way because I feel like the big four
heroes that we see sometimes let through or like they're not really
represented in the way that both Petboom and Jandex have been winning the game.
So it's very cool to see and we are going to see them today.
They are guaranteed top three here for P.G. Avalachia.
That does mean that they'll be the third series of the day.
Now, with them in the upper bracket, let's take a look at the little bracket
because for the schedule today, I do want to do one point your attention
to a multiple things.
If you can stay on here for a second, we have been hearing, you know,
the whispers in the room is and everybody's like, oh, my gosh,
I really want to see Parker versus Heroic.
For that to happen, both Tundra and Heroic
have to win to play again at the very end of the day
against, respectively, that spirit and liquid.
Yes.
Only spirit and liquid have to play.
Only the 3-0 teams in this first stage have to lose.
Yes.
Not that hard, right?
And also, we've got to keep Parker awake.
Playing the first season of the day and the last.
That tough one.
might be a tough one but no like if if we do get to see that series and first of
all they're gonna have to deserve they they've deserved it right because they
beat these like incredibly strong teams so that best of three will also just be
an incredible you know even match up but yeah crazy to think that the top two
series are the lower bracket that just looks like it's meant to be an upper
bracket but again we're just lucky in the morning to get the good series I
mean every single series is gonna be a blockbuster series and every
should be close in skill. Maybe the play style if teams are able to survive the first 20 minutes, 25 minutes as we said, maybe then it will be very clearly one way or the other in terms of how the teams deal with that moment in the game.
But we're going to focus our attention one at a time. Guys, one at a time. First Spirit versus Tundra. I know it's a good one and we do have to talk about these two teams.
teams, they are not expected to be in the lower bracket. They have had fantastic seasons
so far. They have done so well. I'm of course aiming at Tundra taking home multiple championships
on one side. Spirit has been getting second twice. They have not been able to take a championship
home yet, but they have been consistently doing well. Maybe the most recent result,
I mean the last two tournaments they were planning with the stand-in, but with Laurel
back you do expect them to see them back on top. They're going back to that like top six,
preferably top two. Also they did get the new coach of Milan being stand-in which I think so far
it looks pretty good for their drafts. I think they've been more consistent than they were in
the last year tournament. Sure we can always say oh there's a stand-in but I think it's even with
the change back to the original roster you can still see the consistency which is what,
for me that's kind of Team Spirit's identity. It's this consistency that no matter what the game
No matter what's happening, there's always the fact that they can win the game.
That's always been their special thing they do.
I'm hoping to see today in their series that it feels like no matter the game state they can win.
They also just have trust with Law return to the roster.
That's also going to be a weird thing.
When you have a trial coach and a big legacy mid laner returning at the same time,
you're going to have to see who's helping who type of thing.
but with Law, it's like, I feel like Spirit play knowing,
ah, okay, Law's going to do this.
Like with previous mid laners, they said in interviews,
like they were too pub style, too flashy, maybe inconsistent.
And maybe they can like lean and collapse his mindset.
Whereas like, I have to make this move,
because like I don't trust him to do the same thing
that previous players did.
So I think it's only net positive for Spirit right now.
Yeah, it's going well.
And both teams, both Tundra and Spirit,
of course, they're big brain teams.
they are trying to defy the meta, they sometimes let heroes through that maybe behind side they shouldn't,
but they also come up with great solutions to some of the popular picks.
Yeah, so this is countering the meta, but across all playoff teams, so we've seen like Liquid and BB utilizing the Oracle for Batrider.
Why I wanted to show it for this series specifically with Spirit Thunder is what you mentioned, right?
When you have, you know, draft is like 33, when you have draft teams like Spirit, they can look at other teams, what they're doing.
We've spoke up Marci being in the Shadowfiend, Medusa being a counter to the TIEM, which even Spirit fell to that.
Pangalir from Spirit to finally backline jumping supports that are getting so quickly picked in drafts.
I'm not expecting to see Pangalir on other teams, but you have to respect him.
And then Lunar, the rising star of this tournament, maybe not going to be hotly talked about,
but in future tournaments, maybe Birmingham, the next Valahia, if there isn't a patch, of course.
I mean, the next Valahia, that's... hopefully there's a patch by then.
Anyway, the point is, Luna and Mipo, they stand out, so I feel like that hero grid is like, the meta isn't set.
There are ways to beat it, you just need to go and find the heroes like other teams have been doing.
I want to say a hero that I've kind of suggested sometimes, and I'm surprised is Drow.
I think that hero could get picked in a lot of these games, it's good verse.
It's like, it feels like it's a Turret meta.
Like a lot of the carries that are stronger, Deuce, T.A, Shadowfiend are the big kind of three, they're like carries right now.
And I think Drowsh is good versus all of them. You outranged them, you have the slow for a lot of the like auras, you kind of like ignore the aura protection.
So, I don't know really why it's being ignored, but I think that that's one of the heroes that also could get picked up if there's not the Illumina.
Yeah, Uncontested so far, and these are the Uncontested heroes of Malachi so far. Let's see, obviously other than the Drow.
To me, I'm going directly below the draw of the PA.
Oh, yeah.
There have been some games where a PA makes sense.
Like when you're looking at, like, Warlock and Shaman's
and all these, like, random, middle supports that want to play on, like, the jump.
Or not, like, you not wanting to get jumps, right?
PA can utilize someone else initiating.
You press BKB and you kill them straight away, right?
Like, I do feel like PA also can maybe got some life.
Any other heroes there?
Um, Snapfire?
Snapfire is definitely a...
I don't know, it always feels like the consistent pops forward.
It's like, oh, I'm going to pick this guy, I'm going to go find in the lane.
It's got all this ult damage, like we throw a stun, we throw a Mars arena, and I think
it's more of a testament to the strength of the other supports.
You can hear like Snapfire to Phoenix right now?
Phoenix does-
Sunray buses kisses.
It's like double the damage of Sunray in half the time.
So N also uses an egg for the teamfight, and I don't know, it's just, I think the percentage
base supports, because so many supports have like random percentage, even like Sharedyman.
You amp damage by percentage.
all of that kind of like stacks on top of each other and get stronger and it's kind of sad because
I do miss snap as a hero but it's fun to see new ones in the meta. It's on the sound of them.
You don't like it? You don't like snap? I love snap at some point but then certainly
team started picking it it becomes such a like a became like the oh I attached it to like the
teams who didn't know what they wanted to pick they'd pick it and just kind of lose the game
but there are some games like with the shard with the axe all these like other little mechanics
buying that grief it's great but I don't know for me at the moment I've not
found my new Sapphire team where I'm like I love watching this team that's
fair I mean another hero that was on there that maybe if Drow does get picked
I mean Alder Titan we talk a lot about melee supports I guess there's just too
many better ones right now yeah that's like if X-Nerf is not playing it or
Whiteman's not playing it. There's a really good indicator there's not to be in there.
playing it? I don't think it's playing it. I can confirm it on ranked, he is not playing it, so that's a pretty bad sign.
That's over though. Okay, never mind me. That's what I am, I'm still not an analyst.
Okay, good morning folk, it's 3 in the morning but you're awake, so hi.
Probably watching it. Probably, probably. Now there's also, we're going to talk about it guys.
It's also Tundra. Yes, they're doing very well, but this is their event with the stand-in, and I do want to talk about how that affects them.
We have seen them figure it out.
Obviously, they're this deep into the tournament
that we have to put respect on that.
They have gotten a recipe to success.
They have, and I feel like you have to respect that.
Because you've got a stand-in in that fashion,
the games you're watching are technically just them screaming, right?
Sure, they're at a tournament, but when you have a stand-in like this,
they've had no practice.
Every game that have a discussion that you've had
is what you would have two weeks ago, normally, before a tournament.
So we're having to see the live adaptations and it's turbulent. It's not consistently clean, but when it does click
It's it's like insane what they can do, but they just can't replicate that every single game
Yeah, I think it's funny to say this, but
To me, they're most successful is when they take Parker kind of out of like their machine
So when he's playing like the TA he's playing the do so he's playing this year's and it's like
the four of them are gonna do whatever and he's gonna show up at some point and
hopefully carry the game no matter what the state is I think that's when they
look really good but then sometimes he picks like the Luna for example we saw
yesterday and it's kind of like that hero wants to join these are they can
fight so you want to ult you want to do everything and then you still seem like
TP away from the team and go for the extra creep wave and I am hoping for them
today they keep leading into that the four of us will pick very strong heroes
individually and teamfight them and Parker you know show up when you want to
But we shouldn't draft for it. Yeah, cuz like yesterday
It was just a little awkward for tundra because it was like games were like BGM struggling in his invoker
They have like Ari on his you know
Shiloh shaman who wasn't able to pop off and then it just felt weird
But the hero pool from park I feel like we have moved in a really really nice pop direction for him
Where it's like you understand what he's gonna play more fling kind of hard to kill and annoying Medusa kind of hard and annoying to kill
TA same thing I like seeing him on the heroes that can play the limits of even if he gets found
He's gonna buy an extra 5 10 seconds to then create the fight opportunity every single here that has a stun yet a loss on
It's like spin lost monkey lost where does the stun lost shadow team technically is the stuff at the old lost
But then all the ones that's like pure damage just like only only hyper carry like flashy. Don't worry guys
Guys, this is actually Team Spirit, don't worry.
Team Liquid's just showing up.
They just want some extra little bit of attention.
There you go.
That is indeed Team Spirit.
See, hiding.
Are you sure there?
I am actually quite positive.
I think that was like more of a stay hydrated kind of thing.
Oh yeah.
Really, the more people would drink their water.
I'll make it, yeah.
But they're drinking coffee.
Yeah, that is actually a dehydrate, a hydrating.
And then they also need to drink.
And then you have to drink.
You have to activate the caffeine.
That's what you taught me.
the other day and I failed to do it actually. That's not good. You got to activate the caffeine.
Is it one for one? Is it one for one? Like how much water? Like if I drink a nice cappuccino,
yeah, how much water we send? Like 500 ml? No, the same quantity. But that is included in the milk,
so not the coffee versus the coffee, but like because of the cappuccino. Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah, we can have like an espresso shot of water. Oh, and you've got the caffeine! That's not enough.
Right. I think a glass of water per one shot of a espresso or something like that. Anyway,
that's all tinfoil hat science so don't think about it.
I trusted you Sheva.
What?
You're not telling me, okay whatever.
I will say one thing that Parker has done and that Team Spirit will have to do because
Parker is on Tundra.
First face banning TA.
That, maybe Spirit is the type of team that lets it through to try out.
My hand is raised because of the Medusa and certain old school pits.
when I think this is now maybe the test of Milan potentially in this series is
like you know Parker TA is insanely good so either you ban it respected or you
have to have like an equally good plan that can match his play right and we've
seen examples of it but yeah like Medusa maybe there's like a morphing game
where you have a really strong off lane you buy time more things like mental
butterfly now TA can't kill morphing you can kill the TA right like there's
answers to it but your draft has to be set up to try and counter a potential
first pick TA. Yeah I can already imagine Malon's like first pick TA he'll just get destroyed by
collapse it's okay. Yeah exactly. It's collapse you will just pick something good versus TA and it's
all okay. He definitely is the typical coach especially in game one of best of threes to
want to beat something. Yeah make a statement. Yeah because it makes the second game even easier
because either they just double down and like let's go to the TA again and then they lose two
games in a row or they kind of move back on it and you get a free bend and it matters just so much
which kind of having an extra free band
and beating a team's best strategy,
it's such a big risk.
And we've even talked about it on the panel in the tournament,
be like, why are they giving away?
This seems like specialty.
And, you know, I'm very well ready to be here
in two hours, and be like, I can't believe
T-Series is going to be here twice.
Huckers combined, Katie was 40 and zero in the series.
You have to be like spirit,
and like I'm too much of an Oma poster base.
I remember when he would try Tinker 5, it wouldn't work, he tried again, wouldn't work, they're eliminated, never touch his Tinker again.
So Spirit can do this, they've done this in the past where they...
Oh it takes us a bit...
That's a through loss and a low break, exactly.
They learn.
Yeah that's good, no that's good.
But giving away one time, I like a lot, as long as everybody's on board with a very, very clear plan,
like this is what we need to do.
I want to be like having flashbacks to the heroic game yesterday where it's like they've got
13-minute rose shans and tormentor like they have this script that they followed that clearly was
like a prep thing but if you're giving TA away I want that level of donor of like following like
minute by minute mark checkpoints where she's like okay we hit this one go again hit this one go again
how many of these heroes that are in the in the most banned phase do you think because
Is not just a TA that teams let through?
Largo to me is the one that I could have seen Bandrake maybe be slightly lower,
just as a point of like, you have to respect the hero,
but also you have to look at the team you're playing against and go,
do I respect that team playing this hero?
And I feel like there has been sometimes a little bit too much respect towards the hero,
and maybe a little, you know, not to the team because
some teams can't really play this hero that well.
I think the biggest thing that the Largo, successful Largo teams is either A,
It's being able to flex it between the support in the off lane because it gives you a draft advantage
Or probably be the strength honestly of the mid and kind of the five player
I would say is what really enables the Largo because even the carry doesn't make sense
It's like you want the opposite of the map to do good so he gets space if your off lane is really good at Largo
He's gonna what lose the lane like a bit less and have his
Go to his jungle camp 50 XP ahead of normal because all Largo does is the exact same thing kind of no matter
who's playing it for the first like 20 minutes it's go to those two camps mind your tier two
it's really killed up riveting it's a beautiful or riveting gameplay yeah very exciting i
riveting i'm disappointed don't worry i'm loading up this is this is too early right now
don't worry maybe twitch chat can support you're not gonna get a crow cut on me
Hey, welcome back to the panel, brother.
We do have the draft kicking off.
We've got Spirit on the dire side, Tundra on the radiant side.
And it's Tundra that get first pick.
Therefore, Spirit get that overall last pick.
And with Tundra first pick, we'll see which route Team Spirit wants to go.
Main question, do they leave the TAN, seeing if they can beat it.
We've got Mars and Puck already removed on the side of Team Tundra.
And so for a tree and protector and shadow fiend out for spirit, the usual suspects.
I get the feeling they're going to let it through in this first game.
I think Tundra is going to ban.
I don't think he'll ban the Largo for the TA, so they'll just ban maybe like Batrider
or FD.
I mean, the issue with these bans or team spirit is something we've talked about before,
where especially with the high chance that a TA is picked, you don't want to like ban
your own heroes for nine. So I do think that this is one of the situations where you ban
something you don't really want to play that much and keep a lot of the meta stuff open.
Like Invoker.
Exactly.
Remove the BZM hero from the start.
And Tundra's only... If Tundra doesn't flash for TA, Spirit's not going to suddenly go
we need to pick the TA guys.
It's not that. It doesn't change the value of the hero.
I'd like to think that Tundra also doesn't need to rush towards the hero.
So, it's subverting expectations.
If you pick the TA here, you do exactly what Spirit Twin should do.
How about you ignore the whole drafts where in the next game, then you do it?
Bam!
There we go.
Yes!
The Beastmaster coming out September.
No, that's much better.
Of course, we've been talking about TA's to great lengths, but in regards to drafts,
it was too simple.
For a game one, you're falling right into some...
It's too simple.
We gotta cook something up.
Yeah, exactly.
You can't just come into a lower bracket game one and turn to like, whoo-hoo, taking
I'd park at TA, he's gonna care, like come on.
You gotta be, it was a pretty good strategy though so far.
It looked pretty good, I found the situation,
I would also think.
I fully agree with you.
Park at TA combination will win again.
Great success.
But first picking it, we've only seen it one time
in the tournament so far.
100% win rate.
But that's also like 100% P vision drafting
and weak heroes against TA when it was first picked.
They kind of went, oh, thank you, good sir, please.
Please show us how good you're on the hero.
We're going to pick some really shit heroes,
and you're going to smash us in the face.
It was a weird game.
For that reason, Beastmaster feels better.
Roar.
Yeah, and instantly, Team Spirit, they're like,
that wasn't in our flow chart.
And there's like 40 seconds of bonus time used.
They get Baradar, though.
The fact that Baradar is getting more and more through is,
It's a bit scary. I think that it's such a strong hero. Also, this is another flex hero, and it hasn't been played carry, but I think it is sometimes a good carry.
Obviously, depending on, there's a lot of variables in the draft, but I don't think it's unrealistic that it ends up going carry.
Probably not for Team Spirit, I would assume, but just the strength of the hero gives you so much, it's like so much free built-in damage.
You can just buy pure tank items or items and you're still going to be top that worth and top damage for a draft and it's just
I don't think a better version of the Beastmaster
because Beastmaster's Beastmaster, but
It's like the alternative like the animals isn't the very similar strength heroes that they do very similar things
And so you kind of counter theirs with yours. Yeah shout out to 43 and SE
They are the Mongolian carry and five-position player. I've been playing backround a carry. So like what feels like a year and a half
It's not what at top pubs. They're both like been top 20 top 30 in EU at some point and backround a carry has been like their thing
Which we don't really see it ever in competitive, but everything gonna
I was like, ah those two labs all in all this days. We saw a case use the starting one
So yeah, that is true if I
I think bad is a better carry than Zeus.
So if Zeus is getting picked, we can go down the list.
We can go down the list if you'd like.
I would like to talk about the counters, the backrider in the offlane,
knowing that you are going to be sticky and firefly, just kind of playing on your efficiencies.
I want to see your support go into the enemy jungle, block one of the double camps up.
Like make the Batrider think about now gonna get a career get a get a century
Gonna block it if you place a sense two centuries correctly
You have to buy two centuries now and unblock it and like the whole point of Batrider is get boots of bearing as early as possible
Join your team systems go in the sheds and then depending on the game state
You're ever going blink BKB or you're going for like pipe crimson or more or is to keep moving forward, but just I want some pool of
punishing the jungle
Well, we do have Tundra banning out the TA themselves, and they get faces void banned
out against them.
In the, in the, in the pre-show you talked about Tiga of counters to Batrider and Oracle
was one of them, is that something that Tundra will be thinking about?
Uh, I don't think so at the moment, because like Oracle, you need to have like your strong
carry that doesn't really, really need you in lane because you're somewhat redundant,
You need to see more counters. I think when I've showed the Oracle into a bat
I kind of missed adding like other supports that also Oracle counted
So it's kind of like you want Oracle to come from multiple things rather than just the one
Okay, I like this
I was thinking a tiny because it's kind of been getting popular for position 4 but Tosk is I
Personally love this hero as a support. I think it does so much. I think both facets are also good
especially for some Beastmaster the
What is it drinking buddy drinking buddies?
It's really nice because it helps you save the war like it just gives you that little extra cash strange
In the early game before your blink to do this stuff also with a bat writer
It's just nice because it gives you moving speed so it's like a pretty cool lane
I think between the two of them, but you know, I think it's probably 90% chance against tag team, which is just the
Standard more what it's you know, it's I've been yelled at I have actually been yelled at multiple times for going the drinking buddies
It's just like drinking buddies when you take it your laning is
very awkward unless you have the more to carry the Jiro carry shouting a hero
that just goes I'm brains and I can utilize your shard just the right
victim if not what are you doing but even that mid game hits whoo it does
having the cast range also it's just the fact that you don't have to match your
tag team like you can actually cure W I think it's kind of nice in some games
and we tend to hear seeing the Phoenix I'm now thinking about just picking up
the tiny. You have the, you're snowballing in, you have a lot on top of the spot, you
have egg protection, you can continue the flex of your Beastmaster and your tiny until 18
as well. It just looks like the safest approach, but saying that, I forgot Shaman existed,
the most picked hero on the 4-roll. So they take that instead.
I think overall is the most played hero.
Yeah, I completely forgot the best hero in the top of the list.
It's kind of like climbing. Strengthwise, I don't think it's the best year of the tournament, if that makes sense.
But it's like the fifth best or something, or sixth best, but because of that, it always gets through and it always gets picked, so it becomes the...
Wow, it is the most picked stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fifth and I'm still in there as well.
Very good.
Interesting.
So, that tusk can go either support, right, four or five?
I think you probably put it with the clinks. I would, I presume would like it to dodge the Phoenix
because Phoenix is considered one of the anti-task heroes because you have solo attack speed, but I
think that the clinks is probably a better lane to have like a really strong support in and then
the Batrider can just do a lane with a ranged support. Even also the ranged supports are better
stacking for the Batrider. I would want to say Shadow Demon, but it's banned.
You could also go for the Ringmaster or Support as well. Get another save, and then you have Tusk and Ringmaster. Double saves.
Tundra's entire teamfight is built on single target jump, right? Shaman and Beastmaster. Whoever they go on, it's like we are killing that one guy.
And that's it. If that one guy doesn't die, our toolkit is kind of wasted. But Tundra, they go back for the Park of Morphling.
worked out so well yesterday but you also had a lot of cool things to turn
into how about this time round because there's no Windranger there's no ever
I mean technically I think Batrider but if you got the dope you can you just get
sticky stacks so you like turn to the Batrider and you're basically just a
better Batrider yeah so if you want to think about that way I think that's fine
but I wouldn't say it's anywhere near the level of like what was it wind ember
tiny yeah tiny something like that yeah spirit do have the tools though to to
turn break this map though right Clint's getting deso paired with the natural
map play of Tusk and Hoodwink you can have a boots bag with a back rider and
spirits entire job will be try to run into tundra I'm already picturing a
difficult game for tundra if they don't get the wisdoms if the Beastmaster
cannot withstand his ground you know by himself like back with the best of
thoughts what will happen if beast doesn't have a game the support of waiting
more farming. There's a slight bit of greed to Tundra's lineup, and Spirit have so much
pick off. The backup plan for Tundra is often, wrap the map, wait for the items to come online.
You are not going to wrap the map against the four heroes of Spirit. All four heroes
will kill you if you are trying to wrap. They will go find you, set up the map, get a TP,
you will die. So last pick on Tundra needs to just take a bit of that pressure of Beastmaster
in the early game. Probably mid then? I'd like to see Beast mid because you get like
just Ag's cleaner and then the last pick. Tyne actually kind of dies to Clint Seder in the game
to like death of Ag's maybe not that but. I got a bold one for this tournament. It's a
really good brood game. Yeah I agree 100%. Very good versus Clint, very good versus Tusk.
Even like Batrider it's fine versus because you usually go for like the Mansa build right now.
Yeah, I think like if you meant to dodge the lasso batch is dead. No, it looks kind of interesting
I think that will be limited on stunts, but I don't know. It's a 33 bird. I think that
That has to give some credit. I tried calling for a human brood the other day and they didn't pick it
Then they picked in a different game some else. That's about the hero out of spite. It's mad. Yeah, I'm just mad
but I know I like to hear a lot the way that you just described it it's
It does exactly what tundra needs to get more thing online
And this isn't just because haha Parkson the team he's gonna farm
It's more like when you have more from this type of game
You need him to have the man to butterfly timing a quick enough moment in the game that he can take over
So you have to do these like brood pics or the random kind of time absorbing heroes
Yeah, Morph is like kind of a fast here. It's weird. You need two edits to win the game like his
Timing to just be Gigi is Vlad Manta butterfly ages like you get this butterfly you walk into the road straight
You get ages and you walk high ground and you can probably just end the game.
And I think compared to a lot of other carries, it's usually like about one item less than what they need.
He only needs the two, like the man to butterfly to go.
But before those items, he's not the strongest.
Like there's going to be other carries that can just do everything faster.
But also Tundra has not got overall last pick.
So whatever is picked, they'll still be able to get a hero after it.
And Batrider is flexible.
It is by I'm expecting love probably just to be finding a new hero here. Yeah
Timbersome also a 33 classic
Yeah, I honestly but isn't it kind of sometimes weird versus the clinks. It's weird it's weird into
The tusk clinks that can pressure you before reactive really kicks in because reactive not the main component of Timberman
modern day dota. I'm talking about you got bat rider that is historically a counter to
timber saw but if timber doesn't die to the tusk links they find a way to pull the waves
do some laning shenanigans. You are going to be able to always front line until you
get doomed. That is a mid-bat right there. Okay he is going to play the mid-bat. What
are his stats? I just I haven't attached bat to a lau as like a play hero combination
before it's like third most played hero and I'm just in before he's level 30
grandmaster this is a kind of a nasty dune pick okay it's 13 games played in
total in his career 60% the last time he played it though it was in 2024 what
team did he play against Fandra could it be Fandra no oh it was a team called
nouns and then he lost so that is good enough reasons or not whatever played
bad again it you know I mean that team was pretty good yeah no yeah they had a
good run of that one that's true yeah so no shit we lose ever actually yeah
losing to North America might put her into retirement so no he's probably
learned from loss I would imagine so a lot of lessons are learned from losses
we are we gonna see an even game yeah I think so I'm only worried about the
Timbersaw's lane. I think if he gets out of the lane pretty good then I think that it's gonna be like a pretty fast game
The Beastmasters mid which I like as a thing makes face for the morph yada yada for team spirit
I like their whole draft. I like the doom. I like the bat. I think it's I don't really see a clear favor for a team
Okay, maybe maybe Wagga or Gareth have a clear favorite for team Wagga. Going to your first
Yeah, I mean, I think I'm a little bit too worried about the Timbersaw to really feel sure about this one
I have the same concern as gunner there. I think that lane is going to be very important to keep an eye on
Yeah, I
Think tundra got everything they wanted apart from that shock doom pick at the end like oh god
Lars got on the bad to go doom at the end collapse could carry this one for spirit
Okay, well, we're gonna find out enjoy guys. Thank you so much head into game one a lower bracket here between tundra and team
Spirit down the bottom of pgl
of the lock here and we got ourselves at the game one of this best of three, Loll on the
bat flapping around on his little Corvette there, beautiful set for him.
Yeah, he is not really known for being a bat rider spammer but I think in this patch you
basically have to be able to play bat if you are a core player playing mid or off lane.
Or carry apparently.
Yeah, it can be used carry, it can but it's a little bit riskier let's say or a whole
lot riskier.
A specialist hero.
It's always nice to keep the flex open though, if you have a team that really enjoys playing
Battle Rider then maybe it's worth even having your carry do some games of it.
Yeah, I'm curious to see what Spirit do here, especially against this Tundra support duo
plus mid, because Beastmaster, Shadow Shaman, Phoenix, something that Tundra have used a
lot of, these three heroes feel like they're go-to in those like best in slot heroes for
them.
Yeah, not only that, but also heroes that are very reminiscent of Heroic that you and
I have cast a lot of games of them. We've seen how heroic utilize these heroes to good success in the early game
Then make sure to take the early roche with Beastmaster Aghanem's and Rasta Ward's
And like a speed at which you can play right just like Sunray Supernova hit level six on this Phoenix and Shadow Shardman
And you are ready to go. Yeah, they're going for the race three strats. Yeah kill the range creep with the body blocks from Ari
So this will naturally shove that wave out make things a little more easy for the Timbersaw to actually play the lane
Yeah, actually after I killed the rain script as well on clink so I'm thinking he picked the time to get a CS clever
Parker wow already taking a lot of damage the tri-lane starting out here from team spirit bottom puts park down to about a hundred health
Yes, he's gonna be fine as he does have the Phoenix standing in front of him and securing him
He can always print some HP as well with the morph
And the difference out of this mid lane, Beastmaster, we all know he wants to get that
Aegon Scepter, takes a little bit of time to farm into it before he feels like he can
apply that hero pressure to the map. Batrider? Levels, really. Right? Get your Firefly up,
you've got tons of magic damage and you can just get active rune, play as though you're
a spirit.
This is a very Beastmaster-favorite lane where Batrider is going to have Petution Amidance.
He basically has to go behind and cut wave soon enough.
We'll see once level 3 comes in for Beastmaster, he's going to start dominating the lane due
to the damage from those boars.
So it's really going to be up to Laurel to show some creativity while he pulls the lane.
Already real master, yeah, down to about a third of his health.
So we've seen some of these mid lane Batriders going to skip out on Flamebreak early on.
Do you have to go Flamebreak to kill boars early or like drag wave or do you just go
farming build no matter what?
full farming builds right till he was not farming 33 now he's run out dying here to the arrows of
Yattaro one final touch there kills off the timbersaw shadow shaman nowhere to be seen all
the way behind his tier one tower dragging that wave around yes so timber off to a horrible start
only everything three CS and dying and this is what we were concerned about in the in the panel
that clink's can bring a ton of damage and well timbers known for being tanky first few levels
that's not true at all. The only game was the only lane being comfortable here for Tundra.
That mid lane so far, 15-6 for Beastmaster like you said dominating through that but
collapses pressure Parker back in his bottom lane making sure the morphling can't sit in the creep
wave and his creeps and we've already cut down all the trees as well. The poor little hoodwink
has no home, can't hide anywhere. Yeah, BCM is really owning mid though, this is gonna be concerning
for them on Two Spirits. Laurel so far has not been able to do any hijacking of the creeps
like I mentioned. He hasn't been able to go around and pull it away from Beastmaster
and he's just getting outlasted hard.
Rue will have access to that large camp at least all the way back. We watch Laurel get
tagged up by the axes over and over again.
Coming 20 and 10 versus 9 and 2 top lane again.
Ah, he's shackling back onto Panto, but dying.
Don't have damage to the clink and the tusk.
33's trying to turn onto Panto here with a whirling death in the clicks, but it's not enough to chase forward.
And in the meantime, down bottom lane, we've lost Parker's Morphling.
There was a bushwack into right-clicks from Doom as well.
And the Dnicks getting clicked down by Rue, so both of them falling in a safe lane for Tundra.
Marcus back to get the farm on the tower, but even the courier is not safe through doing some damage on this hoodwink.
That's a slaughter. And the fact that Collapsus also dragged the next radiant wave.
And Parker does a decent job there, grabbing the range creep at least.
But they've got these kills and reset lane equilibrium, so things are going to go from bad to worse for Tundra down here.
Tundra doing better on mid lane, but the side lanes are really suffering. That's really hard.
11 last hits Timber, 14 on your morphing.
I mean, okay, the clink's at 15,
but this Doom is racing up to the 22 and 3 for collapse.
And that's the hero I was looking at as being the king of this game.
On top again, those shards with his damage out of Panto and Yattaro,
physical damage galore onto the Shadow Shaman,
putting clink's on a killing spree.
Team Spirit's lanes impeccable so far.
Five and zero, Bushwag bottom, catching Parker and Whitemon together.
Another kill on the Morphling, shutting down any hopes for Tundra.
Team Square is silent, man. They are just dominating. Even going again onto the Timbersaw, he does not have Timber Chain yet.
No, he doesn't. Man, he's just with the tag team, just whacking him.
Giving him the clicks. A few more arrows here. A searing damage from the clicks. Dominating Yattaro. 7-0!
What happened on these sidelines? Absolutely demolished. I did think the top would be concerning, but bottom lane faltering this hard as well.
It's getting quickly, completely out of hands. So Ori, he is leaving top lane now and just saying, okay, maybe I can go and mess with the Batrider.
I'm going to steal some of his experience and even shackle him up. Do what you can. Go find the weak link.
I think 33 is saying let's stop playing for this lane, you know
I think he's calling that it's not going to be a one lane
So just leave the timber to try and reach experience. This has freed up Panto to make it move down bottom
Yeah, all the room in the world
And then we think about how Tundra want to try and recover and get back into this game
It's gonna be through stacks Beastmaster Timbersaw. I want to be farming stacks, but they've not been really making any just yet
They can also just play through the Beastmaster overall. He is super strong right now
He's level six has his ulti available if you want it and they're also pursuing tower with catapult wave
White man tries to rip off Rue
But has already spent the dive and fire his spirit so Panto with his tag team comes in with a damage
Team spirit another kill this time in the mid lane
Get a kill and they get the bottle gonna bottle up his friends here as well Laurel
Just a good teammate rewarding his supports for showing up and so far this tusk with the tag team
The panel I think Gunnar was talking about the drinking buddies being very good against the Beastmaster with that displacement and being able to reset
I thought it was a great idea could have been cool
But here showing how strong tag team can be with their clinks in this lane and just playing forward
Yeah, I think tag team is insanely strong still in a lot of combinations
I do like the the pull when you play on like Jarocopter or something that wants the damage buff
But dusk kind of go in and poke Parker
Yeah
They already threw their bush back a few seconds ago to start this one off Parker waveforms back in towards Rue and it was dead again
I mean this is this is rough the first kill of the game finally comes in BGM slices Panto answering
Down in the bottom spot, but collapse with a doom thrown on this beast master
The strongest hero on the map for tundra has be ulted by collapse and finished off as well
10 to 1
11 might be incoming here as the acorn shot flies, but Ari he will survive
I'm gonna say it again, man. I don't like people skipping ulti on Beastmaster. I don't like seeing it. Level 6 beast runs up next to the doom
Guess what? One of them has ulti, one of them doesn't. Who wins the fight, Garry?
One with a big spell. I don't know.
I don't really understand how one more point in Wild Axis is gonna be worth it there, but he was very close to level 7
So he almost got ulti, but before he got ulti, he got ultied by the doom.
And then Parker evacuates that bottom lane, rightfully so, tries to farm jungle, gets contested, while top lane 33 being dived again.
Does get the timber chain over the shards, gets himself to safety, but meanwhile Ari is being pummeled by collapse, another kill for this off-lane doom.
I mean, it's too many kills to keep track of, even 11 kills in 8 minutes here. Sidelane's just exploding.
So funny that Laurel has only been in part in the one kill over the rune fights.
The side lanes have created 10 kills on their own.
We have the Invented Weapon.
We've seen that as a farming tool, right? You pointed it out that 33 was getting this little voodoo assassin Invented Weapon.
We're reducing that.
Regions are pretty nice too.
It's insanely good against the Morphling, yeah.
It's an AD region reduction, so yeah, already basically shutting down any ability to gain
HP for Morphling.
All three cores, right?
Yeah.
Plus the Phoenix has a lot of lifesteal and healing that Tundra do rely on.
Also nice to see Collapse here going for this phased drums, really keeping that pressure
up, going for the Midas after, knowing that he is ahead and to get more ahead you want
these stats, you want this speed.
It's also about his entire team just running at people and he's going to be just charging
in together with Tusk, getting a attack speed buff for himself and for Tusk is always going
to be nice with the tag team.
For now, Tundra trying to find whatever space they can't farm up a little bit.
Beastmaster, as mentioned earlier on, wants to get towards his Aghanim Scepter.
I'm not really happy to engage super early.
While Batrider is also farming at jungle, the Tusk and Phoenix are both leaching their
experienced mid. Even though Larl got handled in that mid lane, still able to farm pretty
nicely back in jungle so he's only about 500 network behind the Beastmaster.
There he is at the top of CS so he's killed a lot of creeps in jungle. This farming build
for a Batrider can be really nice. Collapse, scorched earth. And the drums get
in its position speedily over towards Parker and ruin collapse they throw the
doom on this more fling I don't think there's an answer here for tundra just
watch Parker die yeah stretch frustration you know it's coming you see
it happening but there's nothing you can do about it one by one tundra dies
collapse picks up his double kill and a dominating streak this last pick doom
carrying hard yeah doom last pick and getting to show us exactly the power of
against 33 as well you know known for being the best doom it's it's a hero
that they passed up on they didn't want it they wanted the timbersaw
not sure there's a lot of options right now we thought about the center this
doom this timbersaw
all right this 33 turn saw in the end to try and get the damage output going so
hasn't had a lane. And Tundra, I've got to set this one off and think about how to
progress the map in the next 10 minutes. No real way to drag waves, you don't have
one of these helmet-dominated heroes, so they can't really change the lane
equilibrium to their favor, it's all about sitting and farming. Yeah, we can see
again the dive here, just no answer from Warfling. You're getting run at by too
many heroes, Doom gets thrown, you're just dead. You already know you're dead.
Mid tower is being pressured back in life, we have Beastmaster trying to take the
the tower down. Does not have Rasta words with him, but he has Rasta behind him to support him.
Well, it means I'm sorry, Wilson. Apparently a line from the film Castaway, featuring Tom Hanks.
Not entirely sure what the reference is. Maybe there's more flangers being cast away,
washed out of this bottom lane. Yeah, 0-4-1, not the start that you want to have. Talked about
how he wants man time, butterfly early. In this game, we already seen queuing up Lincoln's here
After Yasha, a defensive roar from BZM as he went into enemy
ancients to take out some farm, met with some stiff resistance
though from Team Spirit as they bring four heroes through that
area. Smoking up now to make a play. I swear it feels like it
doesn't have cooldown doom. He's got it ready again. They're
smoking up. They're gonna go. Oh man, the quickened cobalt
kelp with phased rums. He can run people over fast. The speed
ore up very swiftly into bottom jungle. They see Whitemon.
Bushwhack comes in and he doesn't want to spend...
Well, he doesn't even have Supernova, but even if you get it, you don't want to spend it there to die anyway.
Yeah, no, he's just dead. At least he tanked the gank in a sense.
The Beastmaster was nearby, Morphling was nearby. Any of those could have been amazing targets for Team Spirit.
Wow.
Team Spirit woke up today and chose violence.
One to fourteen.
That's crazy. The Desolator timing as well. Very nice and early for Yattrow, the top farmer in the game.
Oh, it's looking pretty rough.
Oh, there's some pretty stern odds.
Yeah?
Spirit saying, we don't belong in the lower bracket. Get us out of here as quickly as possible.
Two minutes faster than previous record as well. That's an insane increase on the timing.
Yeah, he did go for the Sol Ring build as well. I do like Sol Ring more than Falcon Blade on Clinks.
I'm a big Falcon Blade enjoyer, but Clinks having the strong ability to gain HP with deathpacks, you know.
I've been playing it for quite a while. I've been flamed a lot in pubs for it.
for it but I'd see Yatter also going for it.
Serpent Ward's trapping collapse inside, tries to break through them, he's fine.
Ahri in fact wants to die as BZN is being eyed up by Larl and Rue, Snowball from the
northern side, comes straight in onto this Beastmaster.
Can I watch Timbersaw farming some camps watching his team fall?
1-16 now as Tundra have no recourse, they just have to drag this one out, try and get
this morphing and Timbersaw off the ground somehow.
Yeah, they don't have anyone who can create space right now. That's the problem.
So Parker, he's trying to find farm wherever he can, but basically Timbersaw and Beastmaster are both greedy as well at this point.
Beast still needs 850 gold for his Agnem Scepter. Until he gets that, he's gonna keep taking up space himself.
They did finish an item. Finally, 133, he has Lotus Orb.
I'm not sure that wins the fights though. Like, it's obviously an insanely good item here.
Yeah, I'm just saying, I'm not sure they can go and force fights anyway because Team Spirit is so far ahead.
Yeah, we've also had Parker shift his itemization pretty drastically as well.
Usually going for that Vlad's on the morphling, had to change things up because Vlad's a laning and jungle item, he thought he was laning.
Has to just go jungle, changing now into stats to tank up and then of course Lincoln's later on down the line to deal with the Doom.
Maybe.
Vlad's, yeah, it's mainly the fact that he can't heal if he gets doomed anyway, so it doesn't make that much sense in this game.
awkward though, not having Vlads on Morphling. He can't sustain himself in the jungle. Look
at his HP running around. Yeah, he can of course stay alive, but he's not automatically
healing up Panto, Pinging Parker. Look at him. Look at the Morphling. Ha ha! 6,000 net worth,
low HP farming jungle. And Tundra draw a very defensive line all the way across their tier
You're saying don't cross the river
Hold here and try and react to what team spirit are doing. It's been spotted. He is getting dived on dusted
But BZM can't quite get there with a roar
Barely gets to safety could have been a nice pickoff for them
They had roster behind follow up on the roar, but but now you've extended it out across from that purple line
But the Phoenix are drawn and this one could give an opportunity to team spirit now looking for the opening
LaL jumps in. The answer is a Sunray. Pushback returns. Roar on the back though gets BGM onto LaL.
The damage is good but collapse comes in from the northern side. Looking for the Beastmaster with a doom on him.
Phoenix, the egg will get focused. Yattaro will bring it down and as the Beastmaster's fallen, they don't quite get the kill on the egg.
A dive back out from Whitemon gets them a bonus kill. Sunray through as well. The Phoenix going 1v4, gets something for their troubles.
A few unlucky misses for Team Spirit there against the Phoenix and they could not kill the egg
But still good fight for them. The two kills are much needed for Tundra though
Any bit of gold is nice and that was an unstoppable hoodwink, so fight the payday
Yeah, with the gold swing they actually come out on top of that
Slight advantage and golden experience when that fight just keep things level
3 to 19, a very difficult mountain to climb.
Now you're dealing with Tusk Blink, more gap closing measures here from both Tusk and Batrider.
So Park is going to have to keep his wits about him.
This is some crazy aggression coming out from Klinks as well.
He's going for straight Daedalus after Shard.
So Desol into Shard, into Daedalus.
He wants damage and he wants it now.
Yatter wants to go through the Morphling HP and through the Lotus Orb cankiness on
the timber. It's cool to see Laurel playing a bit of an old style Batrider, you know.
This is not really what we usually see but the travels rush into Blink Dagger. Normally
it's the bongo boots but as they already had Doom going for drums, maybe he's a bit
It's been said device to have travels.
Team spirit.
Gonna group up again.
Smoked with four of them.
And going into the high value area that Tundra have been farming.
They smoke themselves.
Yatro, smoke break.
Link Lasso comes in.
Onto PZM.
The primary target is blown up completely.
Lull those sun ray down as Panto Yatro onto Ari.
Trying to hold them back with the Disables.
Acorn shot thrown, but Team Spirit lose three!
Tundra!
Come down from that high ground in 33!
With a massive damage through this Timbersaw, gets massive, massive payoff!
That was so clutch. Getting Lotus out, kept him alive for long enough as well on the Beastmaster,
and he got his roar out before dying.
Yes, he got picked off first, and they missed his damage,
but the rest of Team Spirit were just compromised as they overcommit on the Beast.
33 now, though.
Trying to go for that additional wave
I will deter the doom with a lot of sob up and gets away
He pumped fake the doom just making sure he spends the Lotus orb
What service annoying to have to use because it's 175 mana so hmm getting faked out pretty costly for timber who wants his mana I
Still wild though even with all these kills and all this early aggression and pressure from team spirit
It's only a 4k lead looking at the kill score with this line
You'd assume it'd be greater than the comeback potential from Tundra with a couple of fights
has brought this game back down to even almost.
They've done a very good job farming.
They have a lot of emphasis on farming cores and they've gotten a very nice payday from
the most recent fight there.
The bigger damage dealt is the map pressure.
They've only taken one tier one tower and meanwhile they've lost all their tier one
towers so the team spirit are in a very enjoyable position right now.
They can play the map.
They're having those towers to TP to react get on the map quickly very important
Just even thinking about these last couple of fights though
Timbersaw now level 14 more fling same story a
Lot of experience being gifted over and shared into the hands of tundra
For the next timings coming up
BKB doom
That rider looks like he's working on one of his own is about a recipe away
That makes a lot of sense and the chrysalis is complete but we're not quite
Daedalus time yet for Yattaro. He's still rushing it. Not changing his mind about
that one.
There's a Hex here from Ahri, playing enemy side of the map,
finding a catch on the bat. Tundra, wriggling themselves into a situation
where comeback is within sight. Doing a good job playing the two supports together
with their mid laner, getting active on the field.
a line for going towards the Roche.
Perhaps thinking about going for it while Tormentor is being taken.
So on this Clink's Daedalus, how much do you like it overall?
Um, I think it's very, very all-in.
It sends a message.
Yeah, it does.
I think I would personally prefer just seeing like a hurricane hike or something from him
just get a way to keep yourself safe because there's still very good catch
and repositioning is very useful here, but it will give him the burst potential.
Basically, he's not allowed to die once he finishes the Daedalus, and he needs to be allowed to hit,
so it requires a bit more fragile playstyle, you know, a very cautious playstyle.
Yeah, I guess it can work at this higher level.
Yeah.
I just saw some browsing Instagram, saw some advice from BSJ saying go defensive items when
you're ahead. That's the way your enemies come back is by killing high-profile targets.
That's what's happened so far, as Tundra have managed to hold themselves in the game.
But as we get this 20 minute toolment into Roche period, both teams smoking and vying for control around the pit,
neither of them connecting with each other just yet.
Looking for high ground vision.
Beast does show himself to the battery.
Quick, oh hello, how you doing?
Parker with the LinkedIn's trying to walk first.
enters the high ground with a wrap around on BZM
they found the Beastmaster lurking in the back
immediate snipe but Laurel same story Tusc can't save him
Supernova down comes onto Panto and the Tusc is found by Parker and his Maulplink
Tusc flies back, Team Spirit want to continue
Doom and Clink holding the line but 33's Timbersaw
a frightening prospect to fight into as he shreds the trees nearly dispatched with Rue
and then a chain forward does get the job done
Doom in the back though, collapsed with his BKBs, found an opening of Parker.
Moving straight onto the morphling, nothing to save him, they know he's dead.
So Yattaro shreds through another one as Ari falls, collapsed.
Getting burned down by the Shaqwums of the Sunrays, 33 worlds him out of the game.
But now the Timbersaw getting disabled up by Tosk, Yattaro with the damage, but it's not enough.
He used to take the turn.
1v2 he is!
He stands as ground, turns and fires, he's got Manapul left to keep fighting back onto Yattaro,
But the Phoenix doesn't have that same luxury
So Yattero and Panto on the run now from BGM who's respawned
Shars to block him out, Flambrek is there, Panto with his buyback moves aggressively forward onto BGM with Loll and Yattero with a damage, but dead to 33!
He's still chasing for more soul ring of cooldown soon? Not gonna be able to go up
Respecting the hoodwink and Batrider both sitting behind, but what a scrappy back and forth
Ultimately 33 is the one who stands tall at the end of all of it
I mean okay to be fair the clings did do 8,000 damage so he definitely dished they had a really nice start to the fight
We stood on the high ground. It was laying in the damage to the Beastmaster, but
In the end at some points. They just got a little bit too disjointed
I want to say on team spirit an initial wraparound finding BGM was perfect
What happened with the snowball? I don't know because it went on cooldown, but I don't see a snowball
I've seen this a few times now is a bug or something. I don't know because it's not the first time. I see a blinks
Like tusk was it it a click a Lincoln's he must have click
But doesn't that trigger when you arrive?
I'm actually not sure
Did it change snowball to trigger when you cast it? Is that when you cast it right?
Yeah, it's lotus returns when it arrives, but Lincoln's is the actual click, right?
I don't know. Yeah, it could be
That's my excuse!
A lot of things change, you know.
The interactions between what triggers when and stuff like this already changes so much.
I can't remember top of my head now if Lincoln blocks it immediately nowadays.
We've got a pause, so after this long replay, if there's a chance for a short one of just a snowball, that'd be great.
Yeah, it's an awkward situation for Panto that it could have remedied the problems that Spirit had and solved the fight for them.
I mean, it must have been. What else would have been so?
I had no idea, because it just got blocked up and clicked the morphing.
Unfortunate for Panto, and very good for 33.
This is not the first time that that has happened throughout this tournament.
We've seen a few times the Tusks try and save.
Pain and suffering so far for Ari this game.
BGM, a little frustrated with how that started.
But overall, the way this game has been going, things could be much worse for Tundra.
I feel like they've got to be proud of themselves for keeping themselves in the game,
finding avenues of attack,
I'm getting a good read on the map to actually get stuff done.
Yeah, they're moving through the gates, leaving the bottom area. I think...
...Peace Master just wants to keep farming.
Bro, she's still bottom for a full minute though.
And with the damage on these clinks, they could...
...must up the courage to go for it.
Oh, the bigger thing right now though.
Doom has a Dispel and Doom ready. He could definitely take down Morfling.
Hello, Pops for Lincoln's.
Doom on to Parker and yet again no answer six death off the game. Just walk away
Don't even need to chase him anymore. Shame
Down bottom
tumble links done with a punch
Our he disappears. It's trying to hold hands with 33 there
Throwes the Klaipner in the chakrams to slow the advance, but this is team spirit
Four heroes running towards them, but respecting the strength of timber and Phoenix gonna back out
They did get the double pick off. Looks like they're going to have a double fall.
Got a lasso.
They find one.
As mid lane, collapse goes straight for Beastmaster.
Team Spirit, they can connect on this.
BGM is trying to sprint to the north-west.
That's the correct decision.
It should be completely fine.
But they prompt the defensive roar, so 60 second cooldown.
They're going to head for Roche now, so very awkward for them to try and contest it.
Without roar I think you just have to try and push the lanes, go sides.
We already see morphine just keeping down bottom, working on finishing the mantis style.
Timber 33, feeling invincible, there's a catch on a mid timber chain though and the damage
is substantial.
It's very cocky to go into the triangle.
a lot of money as well. A mega kill streak. A thousand gold in the hands of Team Spirit
as they wander into the pit off the back of a core kill. They're just chaining one kill
into the next, into the next. Now finally going for the roach. And while it's like
a difficult second night of Hurricane Pike, he's going back for it now. They've seen
BGM. They've watched him move into these ancients with the Observer Ward. They know he's here.
Larl and Rue, they're on his tail. Ari can try and save with some disables in the back.
Parker's Mawflink comes in, Bilal with that preemptive BKB, make sure he doesn't get
gone on.
And Parker, he's into bath mode, trying to fly over the tree lines, but Yathrow's here,
damage starts to unload, Panto makes the jump forward, Lincoln's now popped.
Parker's stuck in the tree line with the eyeshots trapping him, the Mawflink, and so much trouble!
Put on the naughty step for another 50 seconds.
I mean, it's just insane value they're getting from their single target pick off potential,
so strong on Team Spirit. The teamfight is where Tandra are strong. We've seen it a few
times that they can value in this Timbersaw frontlining and having Phoenix ulti going
down somewhere. Their 5v5 is pretty decent, but the moment this game goes scrappy is a
clear advantage over on the side of Team Spirit.
With an 18,000 net worth doom, 18,000 net worth clenks, Team Spirit have massive core
heroes.
Yeah, they're...
Any chance of the Pinyas effect? Can we spill some candy on the floor?
I mean, it could happen. If you managed to find the doom, the clinks, find some pick-offs.
Also, by the way, it was definitely the Lincoln's before. We saw it again now.
Tusk, Snowball, Tusk, Trigger.
It used to work differently, that's why. Some changes.
I found Ari and Whitemon.
Both of the support's dying to the skeletons.
They cannot show on the map at all right now.
The moment they split up, it's just pick-off potential everywhere.
Incredible damage from the apro, and he's holding Aegis for another three and a half minutes.
This ward on mid is gonna save BCM's life probably, he does see them coming.
It's gonna be completely okay.
Currently nowhere really for Tundra to inhabit.
Yeah, Wisdom earn is spawning and I don't even think they can afford, you know,
having the idea of contesting that. They're gonna have to just get on the field.
Almost entirely evicted from that side of the map.
map. BZM, Parker and 33 trying to weasel their way through this ancient area onto the triangle.
And joining us five, making a move versus Yattaro ages and Team Spirit, they're set up in a nice
defensive line there to protect him with Blink Snowball, with Blink Doom.
I see the clinks, and the aftero out on them twice.
Start on him here with a hex in the sun ray, trap him in the serpent ward, roar off the
tusk so no snope will save immediately.
Try and burn through Panto here and dislocate the clinks from the rest of the team, but
he's got down to low ground and broken free.
The utility from Enforced Staff gets to safety even though the tusk was held in place.
Now with roar on cooldown, it's instead Team Spirit who wants to make a move, they're
They're going to smoke up, hunting them down towards the bottom area.
No real vision for Team Spirit, so this is basically a blind smoke, but it's pretty obvious
as well to them where the enemy should be playing.
The backline here, so susceptible for Tundra.
White Mawn, he has to dive and supernova, does make a break for it.
Well, you'll even spend the egg and you're right because the Lincoln's pop into the catch on Parker more than dead again
And that's the eighth death of this morphing. We're only 29 minutes in it's such a rough game for Parker
And teams spirit ruining all day
The average kills deaths on morphing is devastated by this that's like eight games usually for Parker morphing seriously
Nasty business.
Now we've put a timer on heroes like Faceless Void before.
You know, T-governor on the panel was at 34 and a half minutes.
We've seen it come to fruition.
It definitely does pan out that way.
Do we have a similar timer on Morphling?
Uh, hello.
We have a timer on this poor guy.
Batriger.
Down in five seconds.
BKBTP from BZM, but the war is punches here from Panto.
A trade for Tundra is something out of nothing.
Yeah, and meanwhile Top collapse thinking if he can kill Timber, Pufffakes.
Of course, there's Lotus again.
Animation cancelling, dancing on his opponents.
Makes him run away.
Collapse has been a dominant force on this map.
I would say, of course, Tundra morphally does scale very, very well.
But at this point, he's so far behind, and there are hard counters in the game as well.
That's the thing, he's playing against the Doom, and not just any Doom,
but Collapse has been playing phenomenal in this game.
So how much can you lean and rely on the morphing?
I think you need impact from the others as well.
If you're gonna turn this around,
you need a lot of impact from everyone.
I know we've got taunts in the game,
but is animation canceling your spell like that
because of doing a Fortnite emote or something?
I got T-Pose on ya.
Do a 360 before you throw the doom on it.
Yeah, do a little spin.
We had a couple of those back in the day, Nick's Assassin doing some 360s before landing some noise in pales.
Exactly.
Tundra, not entirely dejected just yet, not down and out, still trying to play out the map as best they can.
It's just, yeah, when they get separated like this, individual targets become such easy food for Team Spirit.
Yeah. Let me see. Poor Parker dying again.
He's down in the same area. This time protected by his friends.
Looking to get a Hurricane Pike for himself. That's also a thing. Morphling has not had
the luxury of going for the items he wanted. No landmires because there's doom.
He hasn't been able to go for Butterfly and
you know, still going for a Hurricane Pike. His damage output is pretty low.
Not like the Daedalus second item, Clinks, who's been enjoying life to the fullest.
I
Feels like they've got infinite smokes as well. Oh, no
He's on top of opponents Parker gonna try and evacuate as he saw this coming with a sentry TP home successful Bailey
No, Bushwack mists Rue a little bit to generally on the old on the disabled there
On no ninth death just yet on the morphling
They've been spotted walking out up top.
There was a smoke earlier, but now we're going to try and just chase top, doom, doom is coming.
A little bit alone, trying to connect in with his bat and clinks, and Shadow Sharman, and
how many times have we seen this?
In a losing game, trying to play the map, trying to push waves with serpent wards, cut
things with the ether shock, but getting caught and picked off.
Yeah, you do what you can or try and get on field or no double courier snipe
Both of them with items
Go sector is a huge item for shadow shaman. Yeah, and also that platemail delay could delay his she wasn't
Unfortunately for him. He doesn't even have the gold for the recipe though. So I think it won't really change too much on that timing
Every little bit of armor helps though against this planks
Yeah, you need quite a bit
I mean, yeah, he can shred through some of it, but you still need armor against his Daedalus
Dessau overall damage output.
He's level 24.
I think he's done scale pretty well with level 25.
People have been starting to take the straight cooldown as well.
It's pretty damn good cooldown.
BGM has the blink raw but fire is returned with a lasso. They're trying to put Lincoln's Lotus on him
But it doesn't work out. Whitemon's dived in to try and protect Ari's retreat, but the Shadow Shaman's fallen
Parker pops into the Batrider mode, but Team Spirit have already slain two heroes. A soft retreat there
They come back to reclaim this territory. Make sure they get the D-Ward as well
Yeah, quick reaction there. The bait almost with the tusk going first and the Batrider immediately reacts and clings can dispose of any hero
still looking to defend on bottom. Parker starts with a flame break, the lightning
comes out but Yattro is protected now they've got a doom onto Timber. The
bushwhack just about there from the roof catches 33.
The rest of Tundra disengaging, TPing home and for the rest of the bumming Parker
runs away back to Fountain. Yeah I don't think the three of them can ever really
achieve much they don't have any disable between the Timber, Morphling and
Phoenix so we're both beast and rust attack that was just a optimistic defense
I feel like team spirit right now just going down the checklist get a kill push
a lane shovel wave get to high ground look at the tier three towers start
thinking about Roshan everything's slotting into place for them quite
easily and the clink's going high ground there's no aggraven's clinks but his
Damage is there anyway.
Fire Spirits can be annoying if they land.
The multi-shot is in.
Nyatro.
Drank his milk this morning.
Plenty of calcium.
Strong bones.
He's got the full Iofscadi as well now.
This Clinkz is looking very, very menacing, 16 and 2.
He started in Lainley's stage Gareth and he just kept going there's no stopping him
Just plinking away on his little xylophone making music for this ribs
Quick outpost take de ward
Make sure the tundra don't have any information out on the map and currently all they see are the waves
And a scan from team spirit understands that Parker is out there. He scans as well
Oh, that's a little bit too early on the scan.
Oh, it turns red!
No, someone's coming!
He's out immediately.
Not even hesitating.
That scan turned red and he dips.
One second different, though.
Yeah.
That was a well-placed scan.
He gets himself some farm, gets out, and of course, he's spirit ran a lot of heroes over
there to chase him.
Leasting some of their time, but as they're 25,000s old ahead, they can do these moves.
I can keep hunting for the Parker and if they eventually get him, that will immediately signal a high ground push.
Of course, they're mostly just waiting for the Aegis anyway.
Like when you're behind like this, you want to buy out for items, right?
Like having buyback on some of these heroes is just kind of meh.
Yeah. Maybe Timbersaw saves a buyback because he can actually do stuff with his hero.
There's an all or nothing smoke.
I've got to get something out of it.
Parker's joining from the left, but he's been seen.
Ultimately he's gonna swoop back, stay safe.
There's her refresher on the doom.
Double peek, be double ulti available.
Clink's leading. I head straight into the roge pit.
Starts on the big man, and that's a shield rune, Clink's.
Lots of HP, Ari starts, Serpent Ward's thrown,
Lightning on to collapse, Supernova used.
Ari's already dead though as BZM jumps in, doesn't get the roar.
The Lincolns there for collapse, protects him.
And Tundra have spent three big teamfight ulties to get nothing, so Team Spirit come in hot.
Straight towards BZM, Beastmaster trying to stand his ground and fight.
Collapse held back by the Shockrobes, but wipe on BZM, they die.
No buyback on Beast.
Phoenix dead for 45, and Tundra just disengaged.
It's an impossible fight from the point of view of Arya as well.
He's trying to have impact, but how do you shackle anyone for any duration of time when
all of them have these link-ins, lotus, and stuns on all heroes it feels like, or clings
who just kills you before the shackles even have any impact?
It's an impossible task.
Yeah, Rasta is suffering a lot this game.
The butterfly is about to complete on Morphling, but he also gets doomed.
I catch.
He's just gonna fall down bottom, collapse, find the pick-off, quick blink,
into Lincoln's break, of course, with a neutral spell,
even as refresher remaining.
Rest in peace, Parker Morphling.
And right now,
really just Sisyphean task, pushing a bolt up a hill.
Tundra, I don't know what you can do apart from slip down.
Four on your back, maybe one more chance to fight,
but without a morphling, without your main carry.
I think the Clinkz is not going anywhere.
He's just gonna siege up and I don't see how you burst him.
They're all sitting behind him with smoke.
They have Tusk to save him.
Tusk himself has an A on this.
if you do somehow manage to go in him.
Try and push them back with the Sunray,
but now you're looking at mega creeps.
Team spirit with a smoke by the tier fours.
Sunray will never give up though.
That is one thing, they will always pikes.
They will try.
As a blink last, so on two though.
Phoenix and 33 drag back in.
All the sponge catches BZM,
they've got a supernova raw,
Sunray towards Loll,
catching out throw and they kill him off the ones,
But BZM will fall, they'll find them on the beaches, they'll find them on the throne, but I don't think this is a wedding battle for Tundra.
A double buyback is bought time for Parker to respawn. Shackles and the Chakram, they're on the Doom, protected by Lotus Lincoln's though,
as Parker tries to catch up to see any target he can, but Team Spirit they hold the line with a klitz.
Oh, the crits annihilating Ari, destroying the Shadow Shaman and 33 he's gone into death and doom, a GG called as Team Spirit take game one.
They fought as hard as they could but after that laning stage it was just no coming back. They did dominate the mid lane, but those side lanes were absolutely atrocious.
The timbersaw, I'm glad we pointed out the concern for him because man he had such a sad time on lane.
Incredible from Team Spirit though.
I saw Timbersaw, but a very, very happy, overall last pick, Dune coming out for Team Spirit,
and then Dune the game.
That's for sure, Gunner.
What a beast performance on the winning stage, especially.
How many times did Parker die in the first, like, 10 minutes?
There was some pointy of eight deaths that has to be more than he's had in, I want to
say, every single best so that he can, like, you know, individually.
It had deaths.
It was rough.
Yeah.
Everybody in the double-digit depth, other than 33 for Tundra.
Mm-hmm, yep.
What's the rough one?
I don't know, yeah, like, props to Square, of course.
They had just really strong lanes, being able to flex the batteries in mid,
so that we've been seeing, I think, only once in the tournament so far.
LLaw doesn't really play the hero, but because of how important Doom was in the draft,
LLaw took the sacrifice, he plays it mid,
and then we got to see, kind of, the events unfold.
You have to raise some questions with Tundra,
you pick the timber into a Kling's task lane to then concede that lane,
and of course everything else kind of we already know from basically just mentioned so
for win three lanes just crush the game parkour on the morphing never really stepping into the
game controlling it i i felt like when their draft shows morphe beast you should play on the
morphe beast and i don't think that's really what the timber does it's not a stun for your morphe
it's not an early game win for the beast master like it doesn't really do anything in their draft
if it loses the lane and you're picking it into a hard lane right like i like sure you can be like
Oh, he could have played the lane better. He should have done this and this, but I think that you're still asking him for
So much out of such a hard thing. I do
You gotta give credit to Rue on the headlink because enter park and waffling
He's always going to try to push the limits on his HP. He's always gonna be kind of cheeky with his play style
I think Rue, we praise Platts, but like he's there
He's got the acorn shots, the brush flats, the constant like what if he doesn't shift?
What if he doesn't you know react to my spell usage and
and it always kind of compounds to it and towards Tundra, some credit to give them, right?
They held on to this game.
After how bad the lanes went, other teams would have folded within 20-25 minutes, right?
But they were able to put up some pretty decent fights through some, you know, itemization
of the Timbersoul with the Lotus, you know, Beastmaster able to kind of get to his outstiming
relatively nicely.
So there was a world in which Tundra maybe could have won this game, but it really felt
like they had to like play every fight perfectly and any mistakes.
They'll lose Roshan. They'll lose everything because collapse the man on your screen even the clings that we haven't seen
We're just crushing the net worth
Yeah, he's for 10 1 and 20 is actually insane and yeah
It's just the the speed of like everything is doing the movements on the map
He got so many dooms on the morph that I've seen this matchup a lot where it's like the Morph's plane away
It's really hard to actually do them they're like waveform cut the wave early on and they'll be moving around
They'll go jungle, but I think Parker kind of just gave him a lot of these kills and then
You know again, he never really got into the game of the way he showed us
Yeah, because that lane went so well and collapsed it so I mean you can you can make some this on the scoreline
Make a case for it for everybody that the 20 and 20 kills is also quite intense
I was like why is your third not the MVP?
I think it's for me. It's supposed to be it's collapsed because of the early game
Like he set up so much space. They took the tower bot because of his lane. They killed the Morse lane. They killed all these heroes.
Oh, there you go!
We can give them shared MVP.
Yeah.
Yeah, with the stat lines like that, you do have to mention it.
Yeah, we do.
Like, oh, there's a clinch in the game, I think, guys.
Yeah.
He did something.
31 kills.
He was there.
Yeah.
He did his job.
You know, the best thing, we expect Yatoru to do his job.
Right?
He's done his job score.
Just like we collapsed to do his job.
and you're on the off lane.
But just like we normally expect 33 timber to be a little stronger,
but maybe was this a little, a tiny bit hubris to pick it as in not overall last
because there was still a pick coming out.
Yeah, I don't really know what the logic was behind the pick necessarily.
Not respecting the bat flex.
Maybe it was like 2015 and Timbersaw had reactive armor
and it was actually a good spell.
Maybe that's the hard counter to this lane.
Yeah, because I'm like thinking like there's not a strength core.
The two cores you see it's not good and feel like it's not good the clink's or the bad writer
Technically, I guess they feel like well water get she was eggs. I was good for this place. He doesn't kill me
but I don't know that's so much gold in my commitment, so I
They probably had some idea with maybe it being left alone and try leaning the doom
I could see that as a possibility, but you can't do that versus the the toughs clinks
No, and there's there's one moment in the game that already had some writing on the wall there to go
Yeah
I just wanted to show this clip for the sake of the series, because after watching this game, you won't get asked for it, it's going to dominate this entire series to low,
but Tundra, even when they're down, what, 17 odd kills, they had really nice positioning to be able to deal with the back-ride initiation,
they clumped up together, they just utilized their heroes in a really despair situation to get themselves into this game.
And after that, sure, things then fell apart, they didn't find this fight again, it was only one time they had this perfect of a fight,
But to me, it's like, if they don't pick a timber into a Tink's cast,
if they don't allow a doom through the pool when you have a morphling,
it should just be a really competitive game, like this shouldn't just be a stomp.
So, like, draw from Tundra, step up a little bit more,
and we should have a game three.
OK, well, we're going to have to find out if there will be one,
because that would mean that Tundra strikes back in game number two after a bit.
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Now we are going to do all the off laners in the tournament, 5 being the worst, 1 being
the best.
You are allowed to pick yourself.
That is okay.
Let's get started.
Who do you think deserves number 5?
Number 5 will be probably Infernal.
Ooh, okay, okay.
What's good about him, Infernal?
I have had no one else mention him yet.
Why is he good?
I mean, I will continue just ranking then I will say why.
you want collapse I'm not gonna tell you two-time TI when you do whatever you
want who number four number four will be table s okay interesting triple s all
right you know let's continue the system next one will be me okay PMA very
good very good I'm seeing a pattern here okay go ahead the second one will be I
I mean, there's no like young offenders in the sport already. I would set like this
Yeah, because I don't like the old offenders like me also. Okay. I just want to like young offenders to
Get good and be better. Okay. All right. All the off in your face
Get out. Okay. Are we just stopping at three then? I would be nice if you could name two more
Don't
Can I put like in here with my advice? Yeah, yeah sure go ahead all right point to what we want
Okay, that's Bach. That's how that's a classic guy right there
Okay, Bach is number two and who's the best off laner at the tournament. I will do the same. Okay
close his eyes
And of course he does pick himself, what an arrogant, absolutely puts himself at number
one, pure arrogance coming up from collapse.
Could you please explain your ranking?
I mean, I would place like also two young offenders, rank one and rank two, but I think
it's good enough.
So I'm just doing it because of the young winners.
Yeah, I think you absolutely...
I'm not a good player.
Okay, well...
For me also.
I'm not tired of...
You got a young heart collapse, so I think you deserve to be number one.
I gotta say, you absolutely butchered this piece.
You did...
I did random, but...
You did it completely wrong, and then you picked yourself first.
Just absolutely shit on the piece.
Absolutely.
That's okay.
Alright, well, hopefully you don't grief the games as much as you grieved mine.
So thanks a lot.
Well, that Collapses number one, he did have a very good game just now in game number one
that we had, so he might just be earning that title here.
Of course, he wants to win another game, and he has to win against Tundra, and if he doesn't,
will go to a game three. This is elimination on the line though. So there's a lot of pressure.
Maybe for some more so than others as for some they haven't had the best results this season.
Yeah. So of course, you know, park and stand in park and this of course the
you know, the pain gaming scenario that just happened. But I just wanted to highlight like
how important this tournament is for Parker once again, right? Because ever since he won the
Valahia season 2 with Heroic. His tier 1 and tier 2 career just hasn't really connected, right?
He's played on four different South American teams. They haven't really made any notable results.
He has won, credit to him, a couple tier 3 online European events with the South American Rostins,
but you have to kind of put it into context. Like, post-Heroic, Parker hasn't ever hit the same
stride as before, and yes, there's the whole is he a good teammate, all this and that, but this
could be the tournament if you can get another win, get the best placement since the last
Valhalla season 2, maybe.
Okay, would you, would you want to pick him out?
If they, I guess they win.
I'm saying like right now, I don't think teams are going to look towards him because of course
the whole social media stuff around him.
But if he gets to let's say top two or first, I've surely been a team out there.
There's like some random manager or like a retro team.
Tundra is one of the teams that does believe like they can change him
They can make him work and if Tundra can make him work why wouldn't I do it?
I also see it as a we have to make it work for a week
Not a well feel longer than his previous team. Well, that's true
So they're one series. We have had in an interview that Tundra did identify Parker being the most mechanical
Mechanically skilled the best of the options available, right? They wanted to go with the best so they went with Parker, right?
So I feel like this is more of a torment of Parker proving that he still has the skills from day of the past and
Everything else is like surely it can be I feel like I'm repeating myself surely it could be surely this
Surely I can change him. We can do it, right?
But that's if we're entertaining like the the novel nature of it
There will be a team at some point that will try and do it, right?
or he'll be standing. He could just become the next Lorna, right, waiting around for
teams. I'll show him for a week and then you're like, oh, bye now, I go back to pubs.
But when was the last time? Have we really had a player that's like, teams don't really
want to pick him up but he's still seen to be a very strong player. Like I don't
maybe my memories a bit foggy but I can't really remember a time in history
that good player or historically good players haven't just been like
absorbed into teams again. There has been many times that I would say that
historically the players like how to switch teams that much like even if I
think players are sometimes considered like toxic or hard to work with there's
not as much movement, but to give him credit, he is a very good player. He's very high on
Mario. Like you'll just see him randomly. He's like been top. I think he's been like
top 10 in the last year or so. Like he's always just up there in the ranks. And also we have
to give credit. They do need to win the series for the bowl tonight.
Yeah, we do.
First Parker.
My dinner plans are absolutely ruined.
They're not ruined yet.
If.
It's true.
It has to this has to go to three games. Mm-hmm. Pundra has to win
We have to think about the future we guys and then it wins from liquid and then we have finally the promised
Series of tundra verse. I can't believe like it only happens at this point now
Yeah, all of these things need to happen. Wait, wait. Oh, wait. I'm waiting for us. I need to let's rewind a second
Yeah, we just talk about the ball. Let's think about the standards for all their enough stand-ins here to actually just build a new team
team. Do we have supports? Well, we already know DM has a team. Yeah, but that's more
like a stack of them. There's not supports then. But we could create the Galaxia team
though. Are there any... There's no supports. There's no support. A mortal faith. Technically
he stood in. Yes. We've got a mortal faith fire. I'm happy with this team right now.
Actually, maybe not considering that they're here too well. There we go. But I'll just
write another support. I'll be honest, I'm standing this from Twitch chat, but Parker
carry low enough mid dm off lane vtune vtune pause forward no vtune's on standby when park
has a bad day just put vtune in so then you deal with parka by having a looming sub maybe
you do vtune as the carry and parker maybe the reason why he is the way he is is because he's
not playing the right role and we put him on for he's actually a support player parka position four
Wow, that's good. That's good. That is very good. She
Okay, so ari when he
Kind of entered into dota. He was a carry player. He was hard stuck around ranked six seven hundred and then he pivoted to four position
Within a couple months top 100
so what if
Well, luckily that's not gonna happen park of all stone carry and continue to farm and be
Incredibly gifted at the the farming patterns. Maybe depends on the series this game too
There's drafts. We are going right here with the tree in first pick. I mean, he was a low key play position four in the last game
So he has some experience
Oh, that's mean you got shut down hard. I would credit he did get doomed
All right, he got to the context of the drinkers. He did get hard
We'd be happy if you got doomed
All right
Let's take a look at this draft then as we do have a complete swap in terms of who's radiant dire at first pick second pick and all that jazz
So we got spirit that do ban out the TA this time around they pick up the tree and for themselves
We have the Largo shadow fiend Mars Park ban
Meaning that the the two of the big four making it through are also the two of the big four that are first phase picked the
But right are coming out for tundra this time around
So that changes things up a little bit team spirit still respects the invoker though this time in the second ban phase
Just don't want to deal with that.
I think it's just a BGM factor.
He's, I mean, he struggled with it a bit yesterday,
but I still want to believe that he's like one of the best evoker players,
that he'll also pick it blind is the other big thing.
It's this, to me, I think as I watch more and more games,
second pick seems hard for the majority of teams.
I think the only team that we saw have pretty consistent success was Vici,
Vici because of the last pick XM heroes, but for most teams, I think the struggle is the 16-17
Yeah, it's like trying to figure out what you pick there. What core is just going we can do cause in that position is so difficult
yeah, and I
Think one of the solutions is for Tundra has been the invoker because it's a hero that it's good with stuns on your team
And let's be if you're not picking stuns right now, which is in Dota in general. They're kind of asking to lose
And then also it's blind as a mid pick like you can play versus any mid hero
So I think that's why it's kind of just getting upped in priority by two spirit
And they do ban it. Oh, why does that?
So shaman ban. Yeah, that's not me happen at all most picked here in the tournament because people don't ban it
And there's too many other heroes to ban until until now. I mean, that's pretty high ring rate for the most picked hero in the tournament
Not gonna lie. Yeah
That does mean a lot of the other supports make it through though, and there's of course the jacquero is the warlocks the other
Kind of generic. Yeah, you don't need to take the warlock right now. I agree because there's a tree
Jacquero you can maybe take it'd be like okay to take because position four is fine
But I'd also I'm trying to think there's like a good melee here to support the buy like I wanted tiny but it's banned
And you potentially could, do you really want to, you picked Jakiro now if you want to think about Keeper like later in the draft?
So I don't think they can keeper like now for Ari's, Fools.
I like the flaw.
So they basically just take double cores.
Yeah.
This is flex, both yours are flex.
Like the biodec can play mid-off lane, B-smasher can play all three.
Um
For tundra, I don't know which I prefer this beast to be I like the idea of just beast mid
Backrider offline. We said how difficult it is to pick double support. That's our double cores. Yeah on 16 17
We didn't know how hard it is to pick double core on 9 13
Sure, there's a whole new new discussion there, but now you are going to see three heroes and
Tundra's lanes will go better because when you pick supports later
The argument is lanes will improve ideally. Yeah, is there a hero like the spirit pick up their other support?
And then if they're a hero that can follow
Any of these two heroes in line so that they can also keep that flex the first get the ring master was bad last time
It's obviously great save against Lato. Um and actually the world this isn't a yator hero
But you know, I just want to say as to fill that it'd be Queen of Pain
You can do safely Queen of Pain versus either of them
You can do mid Queen of Pain versus either of them.
That's a very good Queen of Pain game.
Good cool.
Even if you just commit it to mid.
Like both of these heroes, Queen of Pain, will do fine versus mid.
And then your carry, you also just pick...
I think the best thing versus Flex is you pick both lanes that beat both of them.
Or at least one of them.
Like you pick anti B safe lane, anti B smid.
Then you guaranteed win one lane and hopefully the other one's kind of okay versus bad.
But if you don't want to beat it, you can't just go for like Viper.
Ooh.
You can't go back to the playing it.
Okay.
And the only team that consistently doing well with Pango.
Yeah.
to me playing go is you want to pick it as soon as supports are more focused on like backline
positioning they have you know you're on your support yet they're not even getting back that's
why i'm like they're picking it blind is like it is a statement to me now because i beforehand
there's always there was like a reason behind it now it's just they like the playing go later
that's true also he's playing into two bqb piercing stuns which is a bit scary with the
You try to go in and you get bored, you get lasted.
And then now they just take some damage on supports.
And you die anyway.
Pingulay, like, and Laugh used to play in the mid lane,
collapsed in playing the off lane.
Do you think maybe even collapsed in like convinced Laugh like,
hey, the feudal blink with the aggs, the 20 talent,
like, it is playable, you just need to do these certain things.
I think because, actually, sleeper, I did, I tried it for like a week
while I was picking a lot in pubs.
And surprisingly, the changes to the hero kind of make it a much better skirmisher.
Like your Q and your W are way better.
I think you have lower cooldown in your Q compared to the last patch.
It's like a two seconds lower in general, so I think it goes to E or something really low.
Rowing Thunder is longer, right?
Yeah, Rowing Thunder is longer duration, and your W is also shorter cooldown, but it's just less of a barrier.
So basically the biggest thing is this year you're going to spam a bunch of spells and do way more damage,
And he actually plays more like a traditional med. I would say where he's not this tanky hero
He's more like poke your two spells hit a couple times back poke your spells go back
So what you're saying is Panglia right now is probably what Panglia should have been a
Couple years back not that bonkers. Yeah double jumping barrier
I mean, I always think of do you remember when it was damaged or it was percentage damage reduction
I don't remember you hit it was it four targets or five you had over a hundred percent damage reduction
As long as you hit one it would refresh the full duration
It was just like...
That was good.
What was it, the ring?
Oh, Bob!
That was fun.
I remember Playverse Nippon just impossible to kill.
All right.
So we got two supports, and Cardo's definitely a hero that Pango does like, the backline jump.
I mean, both of the supports.
Yeah.
It's like hard.
You can't...
It's hard to pick supports that aren't bad versus Pango.
I mean, supports will always be backline in your character.
You'd have to pick like a bane or a clockery stuff like that, but they already got me can be piercing things
So it's not like they yeah, and they're weak weaker heroes in the meta
I'd rather they do just pick these like strong supports that pair well and make sure you win the lanes right you got the jacquero now with
We said it earlier right the way that Tundra looks good is when you have a bundle of four
With Parker having more information to be able to win the game right he's gonna get ultimate loss picking the draft
He knows he's gonna be against a weaver so potentially can even outscale a weaver
Svens, DKs, like big damage like that that have some type of armor can be quite cool
But yeah, keep for a light you're gonna be able to make stacks of beast or bat
Solar bind with beast or bat kills even jikiro
Yes on paper very scary lineup
And now for spirit
They go to the side where the pangolars going
Is there another mid to offlane selects they can go or do you think they just lock in
Just a strong hero for spirit. Yeah
I think I prefer Collapse playing it based on I mean reasons he bias but I
mean I still like the Queen of Pain for them even if you just put the pangol
off on Queen of Pain mid it still lanes well versus both of these heroes there's
no stun from the supports I guess there's like ice path but like a Lincoln's
Queen of Pain this game feel like so hard to catch or kill and it gives them
that like bit of teamfight damage that I think they're missing like the ram like
AoE again I just really like could have penaled as kind of like a stun it's like
kind of this B can be piercing stun because it's the push back like you have
this full second where melee heroes can't hit the range shows are getting knocked
away while they're also taking a thousand pure damage like it's this huge thing
and then for the mid lane though we need a bit more like forward sinking like
the plate into the map right get a rune and go kill yeah like Viper into the
first four here the turn just sounds really good but you just kind of push
the wave out drop wise exactly it falls apart so you guys didn't talk about the
weaver I like the weaver yeah because the I think the beast is like the scarier
offlane sometimes if you don't deal with it but both offlane's weaver should
win so it's kind of that theory of they're flexing two heroes the perfect
pick is one that beats both which is why the queen of pain I thought earlier
Weaver does the same thing that no matter what combination of here is they do you're happy
Yeah, they also
Helps with the the style of fight that spirit will be taking right?
It's a lot of poking ringmaster
Let me throw daggers pangos can jump in and out we was gonna go in and out trees in the set up the vision so that when you are poking and
Skirmishing you'll get to kind of skirmish correctly and that's why tundra when they initiate it needs to be
Explosive and I'd argue they need a carry thoughts will follow up on that right with the bat and the beast they have a lot of setup
but they don't there's no one to go you are dead right so whatever parker picks up needs to
pack a punch well let's see if team spirit goes for hero that can still flex about or keep things
ambiguous oh i would say that kind of fits the bill who knows what's going to happen it's probably
mid okay i want to say i think the offline sanking is just i i guess like in theory it's like oh i
the two camps on a farm it but I just think that here's been nerfed so much
that it would just make more sense to put it mid you stack ancients with your
ringmaster and then you get a fast kind of timing it's okay but it's not my
favorite it gives them a stun which Queen of Pain wouldn't they do have
basically no stuns outside the pangold so it's kind of nice to be able to
commit into the fights and it gives them the team fight so like kind of checks
the same boxes. I just think that the laning stage isn't as good. Like it's, I think Beeswool
free farm there. I think Batwool kind of free farm.
If this is a pub, it's partly like slamming in an anti-mage and going, I'm going 1v9.
I guess Pango or San King, you have a jacarion in your lane so you know you're going to be
able to fight through the lane against Weaver.
That's great things also to turn into though, is a morph. You want to go bot.
That is true. Like buying Manta against trees will always feel nice. If they're skirmishing,
I don't know I would love to see a game to potential elimination parka anti-mage. I'll say it one more time guys draw ranger
It's gravers weaver you have a science it's gravers pangor you have the science in the lane
You'll dumpster kind of both language heroes of support range used to be good for it. It is range
But it is Medusa. Well come on pocket. You could have main character this game to
Funny enough. There's actually a lot of potential mana burn for teams here
I think though we were still the banner burn talent like 10 right isn't like 15 or something or 20 per hit
I've took my head. I cannot remember but I think that's still in the game
I don't recall it being removed and then pango wants to buy defusal so weaver in this game probably is willing to go like a
third item defusal so that
Just scaling wise kind of matches up pretty nicely into the do so. Yeah, it's in 15 20 minute break. Yeah, so
There is like anti-ducer kind of like baked into the draft
It's not as bad as like an anti-major and invoker or something like that, but I think it is possible for a team spirit to deal with the DUSA
I
Think up for me
It's a lot on Laurel and how his game goes if he's able to get his blink moves make his epicenters look good
And if he does it there could be it's always that butterfly timing for the DUSA
It's also the time to when the DUSA gets to that timing you mentioned
You're also gonna have a bee to be on a pat a bee to be on a beast master
So then Lars' initiation or Pango rolling through the fight isn't going to be as like kind of fight deciding
And that is where Spirit will need to bait out a stone gaze or a BKB or something to then reset the fight after
Yeah, Thunder, just don't lose the lanes that you did last time
Hold your ground get your items and then make sure that when you do hit Elasso or Roar
It's next to Parker and if Parker has to buy damage items like his team have the control have to set up
He has to be ready with the butterfly or the dame if maybe even a swift thing
He has to be that kind of like the killer carry and then maybe they have a good chance because
Yeah spirit, it's about the tempo the diffuser blade timings that you kind of break the map before time to get online
Okay, so a favor for team spirits based on drafts. Can you agree with that?
Lake in my like late a lot more. Okay. Okay. Okay. I just that's sanking is a big question mark for me
Yeah, I think that we saw it once in the tournament. I think it looked okay. I think it was lost
Yeah, but it looked okay in that game, but I don't know. I like I want to believe in the Laurel sinking
I just something about me is just a bit scared that this is gonna be a game three
Happy scared. What does that mean scared for Laurel?
Yeah, we don't want any low hate. Yeah, I mean we're all going for the
It's a story we have to build the story we're all excited. Yeah, so I don't know it's
I also want to say it is going to be an offline B-Smasher, and then it's going to be the mid-bat again, so...
Century warfare in the mid lane then, it's like the bat actually has the sentry, if he gets it de-warded, then bat can pressure-sank him, if he doesn't, then Larkin does farm, so you have to look at that very importantly in the first couple minutes.
Well before we are looking at that, we are looking at SirActionSlacks, who's talking to Moon.
Yes, apologies, apologies that you have to look at me indeed. The game is starting to move me at her, we have time, look!
It's already Whitebun gets first blood.
Are your reactions to that?
Nice.
Nice, bro.
I can tell we're ready for the morning interview.
My man is awake. My man is ready.
Let's talk a little bit about this Team Spirit draft.
I am a little proposed about the mid-sanking.
Can you explain this to me?
Did you see this coming at all?
Where is this coming from?
Uh, we knew it was coming.
What? How?
Because Maury set the meta.
mid-sanking, maurin, and we ban him against in first phase because he actually won V-9's
the game on it.
It's like a hero where he doesn't lose mid, just trades farm, so it's like a cool blind
pigment.
And then if the subs died at epicenter in the mid game to you, then you just kill the
subs, which we can have Caudal, Caudal to cure the subs, and it is that epicenter.
Thank god we had a pause.
That means that we can talk the entire- oh shit, alright, well we gotta hurry up then.
Okay, you need to explain to me this Medusa.
Now I am just a poor, poor 5.5K player.
Why Medusa against like a, you know,
Pangalir, Weaver, these are natural diffusal buyers.
Aren't you afraid?
This Parker is a unique player
and we have to play to the strengths.
I'm not gonna be one of those coaches that like,
you play Winwin and Parker, you play Kez Parker,
Like, this is the meta, we have to play this, and then like, turn him into a player he's not.
If I park here on my team, I'm gonna abuse it like that, you know, I'm gonna pick his morph, his DUSA, his Terriblade, his Templar.
If we lose, we lost, but at least I got as much juice out of him as possible, so I could.
Hell yeah, baby, that's your job, get the juice out of Satan!
Fantastic, that's the reddit, that's what they call him.
But anyway, alright, let's get into the game, we are well underway, thank you so much.
Pressing Parker for all the juice he can get, make sure he's picked all his heroes, give
him the comfort of the Medusa, even though he isn't that weaver like the panelist saying
with the diffusel or the mana burn talent and the diffusel on pango.
Yeah, they have a few things happening already.
They went down to contest the trees down there and of course got a nice little pick
up on the side of Foundry, so a good start for them.
I think touching back on the DUSA, the reason I like the DUSA pick for them, even in the
into these things, is that, okay, yeah, you have the Weaver mana break talent.
That hits at level 15, it's gonna take a while until he gets it.
Yeah.
And Pangol still needs to buy that diffusel, so for laning stage, he won't be having it.
And laning stage, Medusa is gonna be completely fine.
It's one of the hardest carries to shut down in the early laning stage.
And what went wrong in the last game, it was laning, dude, it was laning.
It was laning, it was laning.
So, just give him some farm, give him a good start, he'll come back into the jungle, and
then his team can play as four.
Their active lineup is insane.
It's super strong having BZM bat and then there's offline B smashed a lot of ways to get on top of people
Do you have that damage?
Just got to break out of the lanes first as we'll see white mon the jikiro already getting some good
Damage in onto collapse, but now the trade back from rule gives as good as he takes
Gotta be careful for rule almost had level two could have perhaps found the pickoff on white mon
the white man going for this
Double fairy fire build on jikiro kind of new metha straps. It's very very strong. Well branches suck now
The branches is still worth buying. No, they're not can't afford too many of them buy for fairy fires. There we go
Compensate for the miners damage on jikiro. Yeah, it's great. Lovely stuff if they didn't have cool done for fair fires would be insane
Let's go to pop them all at the same time
Quick little swarm there on Darian 33 and brings Kotl pretty low so you've got to be wary now where Panto is sitting
Not managed to wipe him on, one verify used, final touch from Rue, gets them their first kill up on the board
Nice pick off, it's so easy for Pango to join in just with an easy little swashbuckle
That's got to secure themselves to the healing Lotus
And we got the Lotus down bottom as well over on Yathrow
I like what gonna point it out that the safe lane safely weavers can have a good time no matter who they threw to the hot lane
So he's gonna be not only good in lane, but later on a natural link and spire
Against a single tarry table that they rely on on tundra
a good point
Now keep looking bottom and thinking why these trees still here you've allowed the tree and actually have access to the
Trees around the side of the lane
No quelling blades for Tundra, just relying on Beastmaster and his axes to try and open up the map a little bit in that bottom lane.
And 33 doing the fairly unusual nowadays strat of going for a Dominator. Obviously he's one of the players who's most infatuated with the Dominator, right?
He was the one who brought the helm of the Overlord basically into the Meppa back in the day.
Gonna go for a summon build.
And the Roo, dragging waves, meets up with Whitemon here.
Chasing into the Jekiro with the Tane of the Beach, then a Swashbuckle forward.
Dual breath and Parker's damage, rooting up Collapse and Roo, keeps Whitemon alive in the tree line.
Barely, the dagger flies though.
Well impaled with a dart in the back of the hand of the Jekiro.
But they're damaged at least trading back.
Spent a lot of resources to do it though.
Yeah
And collapse now 12 1 but no tango is no style gonna rely on the courier to ferry some out
Yeah, and jikiro dying is not really the worst thing in the world
He's kind of act as a courier for his carry bring him the gloves and some attack speed
After a damn bottom
And both supports on post 4 are making stacks caudal running over creating double stack and same thing from ringmaster
Of course, Sanking will rely on farming these stacks.
Already gonna tap into it, actually.
Yeah, clears the wave mid, goes and wanders back into the jungle to farm it out.
As it seems like Batrider is also doing a similar thing.
Migrating from that middle lane into bottom jungle.
Yeah, no.
Odd situation, you're thinking, okay, both midlaners are off the map,
so it's kind of scary for the side lanes trying to figure out what the angle of attack is,
but both are just being very efficient and farming.
Yeah, extra scary if you're a neutral creep.
That's why the midlaners are missing.
They're coming for you.
They're onto Parky here, and they've burnt through a lot of the Medusa's mana.
Panto diving tower.
Ooh, throttle, TP, he could chakran.
He can to keep Panto alive.
Can't quite do it.
Parky's about to die.
Rue and Panto get on the tower, finish off the Medusa, trading back onto the ringmaster,
but there's two man swashbuckles going to keep Aryan Whitemon at bay.
And Medusa walking in thinking he would get chakran.
They're going to lose one more.
and keeps on diving the tanky tree it just wanders in breaks through the
illuminate my still die here but collapse make sure that it protects his
brother-in-arms house really unfortunate timing the dive was happening in
aria I think just have used his chakra magic on the lean important for bcm to
come in there with a haste rune finish off what was left to him kills off
collapse while bottom lane lol makes a similar move of his own so overall team
spirit getting the upper hand. Good kills happening. Aggressive game like the previous
one as well. Batra, you're gonna swing back towards the mid lane. And all this action
right before the wisdom timing, so it doesn't look like they have too much left in the gas.
Gas tank to go for wisdom steals. Yeah, I mean even thinking back to the start of this game,
we caught some of the old chat and the voice wheel lines being stamped out by Parker and
It seems like they've got a budding friendship as they tip each other as the game starts and collapse drop the chat
Wheel line something along the lines of who made this mess. Oh, it was you. Yeah
It's the the pangolier
This whole mess is all your fault PCM get a good corpse
They're trying to contest wisdom shrine collapse with a ton of damage out this swashbuckle
Nearly found Ari in the back as well while on the right hand side weaver stomped up by 33 centaur gets out with a shikuchi
Yattaro will stay alive and with a ring of health can actually stay in the lane.
You may find eventually, but it definitely hurts a lot. The Wild Axes are not something you can underestimate.
It's level 3 Wild Axes spam. You can't just shrug it off.
And the Dominator Creep is already looking to achieve something.
They want to take this tower using the Jikiro plus the Wild Axes and the Dominator Creep.
Yattaro is getting healed up by a tree ant, but not easy for him to stick around.
Tundra have woken up a little bit more
Turning into the thick of things but a twin gate play is coming and 33 might have got a bridge too far here
Impelment art into the back of the Beastmaster
Tain the Beast as Rue cracks the whip onto 33 picking up the kill
Get to kill in the Dominator creep as well. Nice bit of gold for them. You bring two we bring four
Team spirit answering in numbers
In general, I think moves to side lanes has been a very, very important thing in this tournament overall.
Like, the team that's more willing to make the active moves is usually rewarded for it.
Even if it does mean leaving someone alone for a while in a 1v2, you go and throw a 3v2 on the other side of the lane, coming out ahead.
You know what, I think it's time to change the twin gates.
Yeah?
I reckon they shouldn't go from one side to the other. I think that your twin gate should send you somewhere mid.
TP into the Roche pit.
We're so somewhere random on the map, maybe
Maybe there should be multiple locations and you will go to one of them
Who knows where end up in the dark jungle you can go for it
You know you those little holiday plans you turn up the airport with a random destination, you know well
You don't quite know where you're going. Just pay for a ticket so spontaneous support where you're going today
I don't know end up in the middle of nowhere. I still like my lane
Exactly this is uninhabitable here. Please get me out. You know, I came to
I know a few lanes where you would press that button, you know, previous game for instance, there would be a lot of people using that button.
Please leave!
Because you're invading into enemy ancient area, takes out the medium camp, and then we'll dip away.
As we see a dead-even game by the net worth, slight lead out of kills through Team Spirit earlier.
Aggression, but so far so good for Tundra, and in particular Parker's Medusa.
Like you said, even with a death and some touches out of that top lane, continuing to farm around 4000 that worth.
Yeah, he should be more than okay on Medusa.
Mid lane, Panto. The help of the Wheel of Wander tries to get out as Larl comes in, snipes them down.
The Sand King offering so much damage with this maxed out swashbuckle alongside him.
Yeah, the slow value coming in from the Wheel of Wander combination with the Impalement Arts.
And once he gets Agnum Scepter, that puts him really close to Blink Dagger.
I was also not sure about the mid Sanking and how well it's going to fare.
It's not something that has been met up for a while now.
Obviously we had it for TI and Mal'Rin and so on, but that's a while back.
We've had it nerfed since then.
That's what Mumi and I were saying, right?
Banna against Mal'Rin because he takes over the game and 1v9's it.
Supports really can't suffer against this Sanking with that 80W damage.
Yeah, once he gets Aghanim Scepter supports his die. It's actually insane how
Hard it is to stay in the fight against a blink aghanim sanking if you're a support hero
And that does mean that they kind of rely on getting damage reduction
But beast is not gonna head towards a pipe. Hmm, right? He went Dominator and then back for aghanim
She's not gonna be some fool or a bill they see Rue up on his high ground
So a stoll of binded the cat from easy him, but the neutral creep snipes him the purple boys
Always take RU out themselves.
That was a perfect timing on it, didn't I?
Barely any movement speed.
And the move gonna arrive from Tundra.
Yeah, they're still farmed area, so even if they don't get rewarded for the kill, it's pretty fine for them.
And acting as a shield for the Medusa by just playing here as well.
You've got to be pretty happy as Yatra though, right?
That one defense of the bottom tier one means that they still have this platform to play through, defend the bottom lane,
He's playing towards the Twin Gates, so Weaver has this option to stay farming on lane or join top if they go for dives.
Yeah, I think Weaver is a hero that does not afford to lose lane, he does not go jungle as easily as some other carries,
so very important to hold onto it and that's probably why they made that big commitment.
Yeah.
Coming down there and defending.
Yeah, whereas you see 33 BGM very adept at clearing jungle camps and stacks,
they don't particularly care about playing through the lane.
Yeah, same as through for a Medusa of course on Parker. So he's just farming away and that means weaver wants to make stuff happen
go through the gates
Joining top
This gives an opening for tundra to drag bottom wave with 33s
Hell and creep so the tower bottom is gonna start taking chip damage
Spirit wanting to speed things up though playing top and then into mid with a tp reaction out collapse getting a go on white man
Easy, we'll bottle up the Amplify damage rune, but top tower collapsing here.
That grew with a really nice start getting value out of this wheel of wonder.
He's also got seven, well eight souvenirs stored up on the ringmaster.
Yeah, that's a whole lot of souvenirs that he hasn't had to use.
It'd be nice to have those handy for future teamfights.
They're pricey, you know. You've ever been to Disneyland?
Tried to buy some merch, like 50 euros a pop, it's ridiculous.
Absolutely ripped them off.
I would like a mug please, that'll be 50 euros.
Ahri, will they help with the roar of 33?
They hold collapse in place, but their rolling thunder just keeps bouncing onto the couple regardless.
So collapse picks up the kill as BGM bangs the drum, Panto stops with his tracks,
and Lal, with his overgrowth from the tree and gets in with a burst right, blows up the back,
TP out from the Beastmaster, should be successful here.
There are no more stuns, but wipe more on the Slogakeros caught up by Team Spirit,
Spirit who yet again bring five members to the fight and Ponto yet again showing his proficiency as well
Just coming in with a beautiful timing walking through quite a few heroes to get the big ulti
Setting up for his team there
Two spirits they are going to be the more aggressive team. We knew that everybody knew that in this game
We see Medusa on tundra, so they definitely want to farm a lot
There could be a time when Medusa wants to join these fights right in front of tower
just to pop the ulti and secure a teamfight because they will struggle into the five man of team spirit
BZM trying to find the tree in
Not quite in the right place
Collapsed and Panto have already stepped back from that top lane. I
Do enjoy looking at this weaver's itemization going for this first item perseverance. Well hang on a second BZM
He's pretty quick on his feet, on his wings, flapping away, forcing Sam King back and keeping
Rue on his toes.
Thinking about catching someone, but pretty hard against all the tools they have, super
nearest to hop away.
But yeah, as you were saying.
It just looks odd when you see how Perseverance in the maelstrom, you know, doesn't really
give you any stats or anything like that, but it's lame sustain being able to stay on
the map and then into the damage, not finishing off one big item, but going for little pieces
that do the job you want.
Yeah, I would like to see him not finish the lincoln's and just go for shard first and then back for lincoln's actually
Nice cancel the tree in
Park and make sure he joins in here
Die a sentries all the way back to keep vision on panto, but with a cloak
Oh, he looked pretty tanky still gonna get blasted by arie and then
Big takedown on collapse as well as bcm uses ulti
That's how to showing some of this power when he has the the bongo boots just running at people
And this has given a lot of room to 33. Even going for this hell of a Dominator, he's found time to slot back in the Agadam Scepter.
Yeah, he did purchase. The shard is coming on Weaver, ramping up his farm speed even more.
So with Milstrom, the shard is going to be farming so fast, that we can see of course just running into Batrider is just a bad time.
Look at how fast that damages. I mean, all of a sudden you have three stacks of napalm out of nowhere on you.
on you. It's the boots of bearing. He gets this big 50 attack speed with stacks on you
when he auto attacks you. It just burns you down super fast.
Putting our halt to Team Spirit for the moment. I should speed up pretty quickly with Loll
having a blink dagger with expect Spirit to make a smoke move out of mid after clearing
this wave. Maybe nice to go and find the Park of Medusa to shut her down somewhat. I think
I think they also want to get this Aghanim Scepter on the Sand King
so that they can start deleting people even faster
because the damage is so quick coming out from dire
we'll see what the Batrider can do
but now we have Aghanim Scepter on the Beastmaster as well
a bit later than your average timing
because he went Dominator first
okay having a happy time in jungle
Closing on 10k net worth, 16 minutes in
Yeah, he's cruising towards what's looking like 19-minute butterfly timing, you know, that kind of 320 butterfly is insanely hard to play against, and that's where, even if you have the fusel, you might not be able to hit him.
Yeah, like, we was gonna have the Mjolnir to help out a little bit, but we're gonna have a slot in an MKB at some point.
point. Also, your item is hard against the Medusa in this game, wanting to go to Fusel
and get the mana break eventually on Weaver. But it's always that question, can you get
enough fights against Medusa before she has all the items she needs? Once she gets there,
she'll just stand tall, looking for it. Playing on this right side of the map, Rue and Lall
between the two of them, have a lot of control and magic nuke damage, a little bit scary
heading into the darkness. There's Tundra, 33 and Ari, clear the camps and stay defensive
behind the tree line. Weaver gonna show himself. We can see 33 using his Dominator and summons
just to farm. Looks funny when he has three boars because of the chakra magic. Much better
set up from Tundra overall. Like wipe on in this position, might look a little bit awkward
how far up the lane he is, but he's pushing wave, pressing into objective, and creating
this massive vacuum of space for his Medusa. While mid lane, Aryan BZM trying to do the
same thing, but La'al coming in to try and shut it down with the roar and the weave of
those saved by the Pops, Peru, keeps Yattaro in fighting shape. While Parkers come in,
arriving at this very strong Medusa, forcing spirit back, Yattaro time lapses Shikuchi's
away. Solar Blind on Envy's got the gap as Rouge chased by the Centaur and the Bors.
Not quite enough gap closing from Tundra to get on top of Spirit just yet.
That might want to dive this, he has a shield run and bongo boots. Could keep the fight going,
even though they have five heroes. I'm gonna back out in the end.
Before they blink, Tundra very good when Spirit walk into them, but the chase just isn't there yet.
Yeah, no, they don't really have the catching tools yet as we see them itemizing of course towards that farm speed early on
The agonist beast master guy clear through a jungle. He's actually queuing up a diffuser of his own
But I've got to say yet tundra supports doing a much better job this game
I'm kind of playing forward being the the vanguard right those frontline heroes
Taking farm where they can you know occasionally dying for giving tons of room to their cause to pick up their items
Yeah, they're they're on top of their game and aria also scouting scouting the Roche setting a potential Roche take before 20 minutes
They have the agonist beast master heading into the pits
Do they realize something spirits they're pinging it. Yes. I'm walking around
their repositioning
Spirit continue to play as five very tight grouping here as they get onto white mom
Shakiro looks like he's going to drop to the swashbuckle and Laurel's final touch.
Got a nice ice path before he died so at least that buys time for Beastmaster to run safety.
And Roshan half health, 30 seconds before he moves. That's a nice person.
It's not even Yatra's birthday anymore.
I don't think Tundra wants to pass the parcel just yet.
They want that Roshan for themselves with a jump from Laurel, gets on Ari.
Trying to blow up the coastal and the Beastmaster after the sanding damage is enough.
enough, and Spirit, the onslaught, gets on the Batrider with the wrong Thunder, two crashes
in, BZM Stunned and the Yatharo with the damage!
Just insane teamfight from them, beautiful connection with Sand King, the Ringmaster
ulti as well, and then the Pangol to finish it all off.
Didn't even need the Pangol, the I think, but very, very dominant area denial coming
out from T-Spirits.
And while the pick-off game is strong on Thunder, they do have the Batrider and Beastmaster,
The 5v5 is not nearly as threatening at this stage as we can see again as Laurel sits in
a nice position to get a deep blink in.
Oh, that's such a good trade ulti too.
That's overgrown, very annoying.
I mean, these heroes are not going to be buying Manta Styles or anything.
Don't want to buy Greaves, going to have to run BKBs as the game develops.
So far, Panto just keeping them held in place.
That was enough to turn their decision making around as well.
Like you mentioned, the Panther ulti forced 33 now to change his mind.
He wanted to go defusal to have a Lincoln's break built in, but instead he said, you know
what, I need a Lotus Orb.
I need a way to get out of this.
He has to.
Now, chance otherwise.
I'm not even sure Lotus Orb is going to be enough.
I feel like he needs to straight up the BKB because there's so much damage from Sanking
ulti, Ringmaster control.
Rolling Thunder.
Yeah, like, say you Lotus Orb.
You're still going to fall to these things, no?
We'll see.
Can you still bounce back borostrike?
Uh...
I'm not sure.
I think you can, yeah.
I think that's still how it works, right?
You put loads on yourself, you get borostruck, and then you...
I think that one still works.
Do the worm.
Go all shy-hooloed on them.
Parker, top of the net worth still.
Farming through the ancients' area.
Yattaro?
Yeah, half health against Yattaro in a 1v1.
33 is here though, so a time-lapse back required.
And we can't forget that this is Yatro with the Lincoln's and the Aegis, so very confident to feel bold moving forward.
And now he's got TMS backing him up as well.
He's also got a full mule near coming in.
He's gonna get that upgrade.
Or BZMCB'd mid.
Canceled.
Canceled. Very wisely, because that would have been into the waiting arms of Panto.
He's just warded behind tower.
Dias scan, let's Parker again making sure he's not being run at.
He's gonna stay back and play safe. He does have the butterfly mantas so his DPS is nice.
But what we saw in the previous fight is just his team disappears in the blink of an eye.
Yeah, he needs Ari to be alive.
Oh no, Parker is walking up to the lane.
He's being dived, low, collapsed onto Parker. There's no chakra magic here for you now, buddy.
Parker down and out.
And the dive into tier 3, he's about to go onto white moth.
That tree in this pops the ulti to kill a jikiro.
It's so aggressive here.
I can't walk into a pretty risky place though.
Parker just does not have much space to farm, and that's kind of the downside of having
Beastmaster on your team who's also pretty damn greedy,
and Batrider is also mold-farmed right now, so they're all fighting for farming space.
That means someone's going to go to a dangerous area. Ideally, you don't want that to be Medusa.
26 with a 5k lead. Team spirit. So often we watch... Oh, his BGM's gonna get caught here.
Flies up the cliff tops. Trying to find a little hidey hole, but the...
The cranny he's found is gonna get pummeled and down he goes. The aftero is dominating now.
And Panto, he's got Ari here with collapse coming in from the right-hand side. It looks like Kotal.
He's about to die.
He's trying to get away. He's pretty fast at least. There's no TP, man.
No, he's gonna... he's gonna find a way to walk to safety, Gareth. He's gonna be fine.
Yeah, look to the east on the third day.
Adornal rise, and can't help but come through.
He's so fine.
Except he's a decrepit old man.
No, no, he's completely fine. Just walk it off.
Yeah, yeah, round that corner. That... this is not the way.
He's ended up in Moria? What's he doing over here?
Full of R-R-E.
East full HP, man. He's completely fine.
He's completely fine.
35 seconds, completely fine, he's died, Gikiro in the meantime, swarm is on him and Yatra
is giving chase. How many hits does it take to get to the center of a Gikiro? Yatra is
about to find out, time lapses back though as he respects the turnaround. Flame break
tries to push him back but there's not enough control here to deal with him.
Yeah, I don't really think they want to give away a big teamfight as well in Tondra so
not really jumping the Aegis Weaver. Sanking was eager to get a chance to jump in with
his orphe. It feels like there's a big shift in the vibe of Team Spirit as well.
So often, you know, through this tournament, hell, historically we've
seen them drop a game in a series, not look good in laning stage, the whole
story being spun, and Richard was saying he's a little bit tired by now, but I
think it's still factual that Spirit want to look for these late-game fights.
They look for this individual moment to try and turn the game around. Now in this
series they've been ahead both times and they haven't given up any of that lead.
It's very scary.
I think overall it's true that T-Spirit is a team that levels up a lot as tournaments go on.
That's also true.
They are experienced, they're top level players, they're very very good at, you know, understanding
a tournament meta and right now Parker thought he was safe to push the tower.
Oh dear, now he's not.
Income to control from spirit.
Everybody here, they're dealing with Parker.
At top lane, Panto, all he is left alone by is squad.
The striking level get picked off.
There is zero hesitation, they see Parker hitting a Tier 1 and everyone slams the TP immediately.
I've done this Parker!
He's down bottom, go kill him!
Get him quick.
Unfortunately Medusa, while their timing was really good on the Manta butterfly, since
then we've only had the Dragonlands added and working on a Hurricane Pike, but it's
slowdown significantly.
Weaver is actually a head in farm and Weaver is a much slower farming hero.
Batrider on the other side of the scale really slipping behind now 10k net worth of BZM
Did get a good leg up at the start with that farming build
Pushing out waves clearing camps, but now this mid Batrider. You're not really scaling all that much
Yeah, he hasn't really been able to take teamfights is the thing that big team fight will be focused like
Radiant essentially picked four good teamfight heroes and then a weaver who shut down landing states really hard
And then they've been abusing that. Team Spirit have just ran super strong fighting combos over and over.
And Pre-PKB's under vision, tries to go for the rolling thunder.
He'll shield crash over, but the raw and lasso there to take him down.
Some serious hate from Tundra.
And just burst everything. Finally they're going to catch under that ward.
A super important one as well.
But yeah, pre-BKBs here, it is suffering for Tundra as long as he keeps jumping and stunning, catching core after core.
And trade off lane for off lane.
As we wait for that next Roshan spawn.
I think he's going to slow down a little bit here and Tundra can catch their breath.
Get Parker back into a position where he can farm and maybe set up around him because Nandusa is strong.
I think they need him to go full glass cannon build from here. He went for the hurricane pike
But I think they they need to allow him to just burst through
With damage does we see him doing the day?
Break your territory. Yeah, basically. I think they lose his fine first. Maybe they lose an extra eight here even
We'll see how much time he has though because right now eight K lead they keep finding these pick offs
There's Whitemon Bottom, Arya Top.
Does get the full staff away from the Weaver for now as they eye up.
A potential go in Yatoro.
They've got to pop the Lincoln somehow. There it is from Arya, BGM, Dust and Lasso.
Gets the grab on Weaver to drag him back in towards the Beastmaster.
But 33's not close enough to be able to catch up to Roar.
Yatoro's gonna have you with that.
Gets himself to safety, no big cool down expended.
Weaver has a very low CD ulti.
What do you think about this B-Smaster with no blink BKB?
Yeah, I mean, he went back for the Diffusal into Shadowblade.
This is very pick-off Dota, never aiming to win the 5v5.
And I just fear that sooner or later you're going to have to fight for the 5v5.
There's no pipe on their team there against an Aghanim Sand King.
And again, no B could be. I don't think you're going to have any authority to do a single action in the 5v5, right?
There's way too much control.
So this is like cut wave, delay, pick off, delay.
It's a good glimpse into the way that 33 sees them winning the game.
It has to be on the back of splitting the map.
And I kind of agree.
I think they need to split the map until the point where Medusa gets to actually carry in teamfights.
The unfortunate part is the game is slipping faster than intended.
And then this build might fall completely flat.
The dust fall into the pebbles, into the rocks into the avalanche.
Tundra, about to be covered by Team Spirit's aggression.
As they swarm into this bottom part of the map on the eastern side where Parker resides,
jump in from last, spots out the Medusa but doesn't land the stun.
I think he saw the creeps moving but not the actual hero herself.
Yeah, it was a blind stun. He was hoping he would connect.
Almost got him but the nice Hurricane Pike by Parker gets to safety.
The parkers like guys they saw me, but knew I was here.
Yeah, I just lulled with the reed.
Yeah, with the shard on tree ends.
You never know exactly where the vision is going to be, so they're going to try to
de-word lots with the gem they have now on Whitemon.
It's an important de-word as well.
You cannot afford to get picked off that close to your base.
There's this thing where if you push yourself out on a map, it can be okay to die, but
if you die right outside your base and all the enemies are there, they're just going
to go high ground.
I think one of the most worrying things here for Tundra is we've talked to death about the Sam King from Lava, Yatra, Weaver.
They've been popping off and looking incredibly good for sure.
The Collapse pango though, we've seen him go toe to toe in like 1v3 situations.
Now he's got Agatom Scepter, he's a real scaled core. He's hitting his timings.
Yeah, he's getting very strong and the double Lincoln is going to be really nice for him as well.
Yatra.
As he's seen him.
Yeah, they spotted him. They saw him running left.
33 runs to the east.
Oh, barely stays safe.
Fights a little pocket of fog or shadow blades from there and runs to the right.
Nice move by 33.
Houdini 3 gets himself just barely out there, down the river.
Yeah, Centra was placed, but it was after a fact, so Ringmaster not able to catch him.
Coddle. Little bit of wisdom stealing.
A bit of dying as well.
Nice.
You accept the TP, he's fine.
He does have the water utility items.
Go accept the four staff.
You can only lock it on the Coddle.
He's shoving out the lanes.
For now, this is kind of what they need on Tundra.
Split the map, keep the pressure off your buildings and off your Medusa.
The net worth has actually stabilized a bit over the last minutes here.
Yeah, only a 5k lead
It's not that significant the the important part is not net worth in this game
It's about team fights right team spirit if they can force a team fight right now
They're still gonna dominate it and tundra they need to delay the game drag it out split the map so park is bkb
Offering protection against that team fight
Yeah, I think also offers him the safety to get out and push the map
We've seen him get caught before right now. There's no BKB piercing catch over other than the tree.
So as long as he knows where tree is, he's gonna be fine.
Pango hasn't opted to go for a basher build.
But yeah, the BKB Medusa is maybe a first step towards being able to win teamfights.
Still a difficult bit of terrain to fight into though, this bottom Rochand pit.
Looks like Tundra not really entertaining the idea of coming down here and contrasting.
Rage and vision also spots out Ari, this time, no go set to TP.
Double inhibit coming out from the diffuser on him, no chance for him to move at all.
And then straight swing into the pit here by Yaffarow.
Yeah, this is a rush they cannot afford to contest on Tundra, so this guy can give it away.
Even if they hear the roar, this is more a roar that signals that the coast is clear, you can farm the map, do what you want.
I like that 33 changes mine, he was queuing up the Silver Edge.
I would not really enjoy seeing that here, but it changes mine into a Disperser, which I think is completely fine.
That can actually be a pretty good item against 3 in Protector, you can dispell yourself and yeah,
And yeah, maybe always, you know have that the chance to run around
Lincoln's proper as well
BGM though
He's been found here by Panto and collapsed with a rolling thunder roll up and the other growth post BKB
Get the physical damage in from his pankle here and try to finish off BGM
But he's got to high ground and juke the swashbuckle the agonist center from collapse though seems a little too much
BGM gets the blink TP though Panto
So, grasping Ryder reach but doesn't get there.
The tree, quicker than he looks, almost got close enough for a punch there, would have
rooted him and knocked him out.
Last BZM, BKB down.
So maybe a chance for the team spirit still to strike.
If he did not jerk that swashbuckle, he was dead, nicely done by BZM's Batrider.
Up top, 33 walked under a sentry.
Sand King and the ringmaster right on top of him.
into Ampicenter, Roar comes out onto Roo, but the Wheel of Wanda already plays, hypnotizes the Beast Master.
I wonder if he's gonna consider the BKB still.
Like, this person looks nice, but I still feel like that BKB looks even better.
These control spells are just dominating him.
There actually is a BKB piercing disable now, by the way.
We have a Laurel going for the Bash here.
Nice.
So Weaver didn't go for it, but the Sam King...
That's so good with his Ags.
Can apply it.
I still don't know how I feel about this Shadow Blade Beastmaster.
I understand it's not a bad item.
You buy this Shadow Blade and then enemy buys Gem.
Your 3k item is untunned by something a third of the cost.
If we look at it realistically here, he's trying to drag out the game and that's the only value.
I think we're wolfing in.
Zoning back Parker while Yattrow hits into fifth gear.
Yes, on the tier 3 tower, bringing it down all on his own basically, but PZM he's in, Lincoln's being popped, they don't get the lasso, the drag or anything.
Batrider holds his ulti in pocket trying the front line to keep Team Spirit out of their base. So far successful.
Difficult coordination to get the Lincoln Scrab as Batrider does not have his own Lincoln's break, so they had to coordinate with the Coddle to Solarbind.
Didn't really get the timing, but even so he had ages. I'm not sure they want to take that fight
But yeah, no dude, you're you're absolutely right for now
We're 35 minutes into the game the Beastmaster been part of three kills and
It hasn't really looked like it's come to fruition the way Parker was microing that career
I thought there was something really important on it
Just a sentry ward.
Yeah, clip it up, run around, micro it.
The three's being eyed up on the opposing side of the map, look.
Hit and ties in the wheel of wonder again.
Yeah, no BKP, no safety net.
It's an all too familiar story, isn't it?
It is.
Two heroes just take him out, same two heroes even.
The San King and Ring Mouth are just playing this top lane continually.
Continually, yeah, I mean, I feel bad forever doubting the San king that he's nine zero nine local is absolutely popping off
And then they've got this outpost and they got a range and so they just keep you there and plant a bottom lane
I'm just gonna defer to trusting Laurel in general. I feel like the last two or three years. He's been such a god player. It just
Everything looks insane that he does
He's thinking about a go there. Yeah, I think people still hold him to his skill level when he first joined right.
He had a very small hero pool, a bit shaky, but he has developed as a player incredibly over the past couple of years.
Yep, for sure. People's memories sometimes stronger than reality.
He's going to jump in, looks for Ari. Misses burrow, but the magic damage is good enough.
Close-up Cottle, buyback's available for Ari here, but Tundra is being dived and slain by their tier 4 towers.
Wymon's gone for 50 seconds, tier 3's down, Barracks falling.
I'm still ages for 50 seconds on the Weaver. Medusa's here with decent damage, but it's not really enough to stop the push.
And they had already previously set up that middle lane, so they can just go into mid, finish off the tier 3, get another lane of Barracks if they want.
Yeah, I think they might even be happy to just resets.
Aegis is about to time out soon, and they are in full control of the map.
They're not going to give any fight without Aegis inside the base of Tundra.
That's basically the way for Tundra to come back, is to take a favorable fight.
Yeah, no defenders advantage for you.
33 finally changes mind by the way, and decided to go back for the beat-me first.
It's felt necessary.
Yeah, it's felt necessary for a while.
There's a double damage up at top spot.
Incredible rune of Team Spirit can go and get it.
For now.
Just repurposing, farming backwards through the map,
being as safe as they possibly can, holding some high grounds,
waiting to see if Tundra's smoke across,
because that's a way for them to get back in.
There's a smoke pick-off play.
At least gonna go out and get some D-word going for them.
Sand King is ever watching though, wanting to drag another teamfight their way with the ulti.
Panto sees Whitemore coming, starting out with Lars' arrival, but Takiro doesn't last long.
They try and barrier up and save him, go set the force down from Kotal, get some distance from Team Spirit,
they roar up the pango, the damage is just not coming though.
They box up the roll, he's gonna dish out as the stank comes in.
The damage turned for Parker though, brings the Lars stank down.
Collapsing the afro, can open up though, but she's falling so quickly!
99 seconds, Parker is out of the game.
Tons of double-five back on support,
but Team Spirit and the rapier on the hands of Yatarono.
Chasing towards Ari. Go set this up.
White mod a few hits and Klick will finish off the Zekiro.
And BZM goes the same direction.
I wasn't all in right there.
Might just be one of the shortest-
It's over!
But ultimately, yeah.
It was a nice attempt, but it's way too far this game goes.
In 38 minutes, Yattaro beyond godlike with an ultra kill at the end, dealing with Tundra and shutting down Parker.
I mean, Yattaro absolutely owned the entire game, Laurel was on point finding so many kills and big props to his supports as well.
I mean, all of them were really just crushing it on the side of Team Spirit here.
And Tundra, a little bit too asleep this draft, they couldn't really go for fighting.
I'm very crisp from Team Spirit.
very crisp from Team Spirit.
We knew that they were going to do well
at the early stage of the game.
We were maybe a little worried what would happen
if Tundra would make it to the later stages,
but Spirit just did a really good job
at making sure that Tundra never really had an opening
and they were just so slowed down
that Spirit could really capitalize.
Yeah, Spirit is just so methodical.
I think just strategically coming into the series,
Spirit knew exactly how to play against Tundra.
They always had elements of map play
and pick offs and skirmish and Tundra.
default mechanism to getting Parker online is split the waves, get him to like 20,000 net worth,
allow him to be this kind of like 1v9 style player, but that wasn't the case. Spirit they just
kept getting kills and we're going to see the net worth in the clips. As this clip package rolls out,
Parker's up top, but that's kind of it. No one else kind of followed suit and yeah, Spirit this
big really, really good prep coming into the series. I want to say there's some like the
Beastmaster build to me is a bit interesting. He goes for a diffusal shadow blade. It doesn't
doesn't really go for like the sheevas or the blink that we usually see, I don't know,
like I'm trying to figure out what their mentality was because then they have like
Crimson on the Batredder, he's going for like the Auras, I think they didn't feel like they ever had
like a good timing that feels like okay we have our items, it's go time, there's always kind of like
everything was just a bit like stepped apart from each other. It doesn't help I think for
Tundra at least that, you know, Parker did die here at mid tier two, then he goes to the bottom
and Tim will tower he died there as well so like tundra's kind of itemization
they're path into this game you can argue is post that ages that's their go time
but then somehow this ages became way more than it really could have been
because tundra they didn't get into that map place state because of how kind of
roof the spirit were and then there was an ambitious rapier pickup he he tried
to do it got a couple kills but yeah that's just gonna be at the end of the
it's been a long time since
you've been on the road for
Thunder. Yeah, hopes and
dreams. Crushed. Not just for
thunder for love people that
were hoping to see Parkers
heroic later today, but that is
no longer a possibility. I
would I will say not the match
has to be tomorrow 1209 and
just going by the scoreline
because I do think it was a
team effort and we can.
Highlight collapse again because.
He's one of the few people that
can pull off pango the way he
I don't want to game yet this Valachia, but based on the scoreline and just overall consistency throughout the series.
Yeah, right. The stats are very impressive for your Toro.
Of course, I think Spirit, you've got to give them the commendation that they are picking heroes that no one even cares about.
Sanking mid, one game, one loss on other teams, and then of course the Pangolier.
So are there other heroes that Spirit have that no one really thinks about?
You would think yes.
It was a good shout out by Moon in the interview where he was like, Maureen's playing it.
That's why we kind of understood it was coming, it wasn't a big deal, it was a big deal.
It was also a big deal, hold that thought.
Collapse is quite a big deal and he's standing there with slacks right now.
That's right, Schieber.
Collapse is quite a big deal and he is with us here today.
Collapse, are you happy with yourself?
You denied all of us the Parker-Heroic game, you know?
You feel good about that?
you could have just taken an L for the community.
Why did you decide to win this game?
I mean, we discussed yesterday with Mjoln,
but I mean, Parker versus Heroic is not like,
it's not that serious like in the past
because there's no like old players like the Vyvama,
and now he probably have beef maybe with coach
and King Jungles maybe.
So it's not that, I mean, interesting right now.
No, it wouldn't have been that cool.
Okay, I guarantee that's fine. That's fine. So you are going to give us something cool then, right?
You're going to give us the big rivalry that we're all going to get at just now. Yep. Just lie for what?
Everyone knows you're nice collapse. Just say how excited you are to play against
Heroic or liquid in your opinion. Who's winning the next one?
You don't care. You don't care. That is a badass statement in itself. You get no joy from destroying these guys anymore.
No, I just want to sleep to be honest.
You want to put him to bed baby? You want to put him fucking down? Have him snoozing?
Absolutely, I feel it dude. He wants to put that full of sleep. Hell yeah, Collapse.
Let's talk a little bit about your gameplay and your drafting here. We've seen a lot of this
pango coming out. I'm getting some old Collapse vibes of this guy plays too much shit. We don't
know what to ban anymore. Do you think we're gonna get some pango respect bans?
I think not, people still will ban like Mars, some other shit, not the Magnus already, because Magnus is dead.
So he says, don't believe him. No, go ahead.
No, it's dead.
Yeah, huh?
Yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, Panga is a good hero. Like I saw many said like it's like hide and poke hero, like bullshit, what can you do with this hero?
I mean, I'm finding some way to play this hero to stomp noobs.
Noobs, you say? Noobs? You're going to call Tundra noobs? That's unreal, dude! Ain't no way!
It's just a joke. I mean, I feel kind of unfair, you know, to win teams with stand-in, like Tundra, Falcons here, so it's kind of unfair, to be honest, because if they play S5, like, as all the players, it would be tough.
more of a challenge. Yeah, understood. Now, I got some bad news for you. You say you're sleepy, you say you're tired, you're playing again today, dude.
Yeah, I know. I'm playing the first one, and the last one.
Oh, I'm so sorry. You sleep on your bed of money. But how do you wake up? How do you wake up? What do you do on Team SpiritTag?
You know, get out of the sleepiness. Can you teach us?
First time, like when I wake up, I'm sleeping with Swalla.
You're doing what?
I mean, in two different beds.
Oh.
It's a suave, you know?
Yeah.
And then?
And then, I woke up, I hit him a few times.
Is he all?
Oh.
Yeah, just to wake him up also,
because the past times when I was with Varo,
he always wake me up, like every time,
because he wakes like...
Maybe we should stop the interview.
Thank you so much.
It was really good senior class.
We'll see him later today.
Big wake up collapse.
All right.
Let's get the fuck out of here.
Jesus Christ.
Thank you so much.
That's amazing.
There's no other good who can talk to players
quite like that.
And I don't think there's anybody who can make the jokes
that he does and get away with it as well.
I love the phrase,
oh, she's gonna pay the money.
That was good.
Also good to know, of course, Gunnar that it,
you know, it was discussed, you know, it's not that big of a deal.
Yeah, they discussed the drama.
That's yes.
There's a Milan is there for you.
It's very in the pub scene, the pro scene.
He knows all the guys who knows the drama.
He probably bottom is the coach for the kind of is this series
important for the lore, you know, the storytelling.
And they're like, ah, yeah, it's better for us to win to win a
Wallachia than it is for Parker vs.
Rogue and lower coach.
That sounds scary.
Like that could be slacks.
That's what I'm thinking.
Well, he did get second place at TI, but that didn't really then...
But that was as a player.
That wasn't a catalyst, there's more lore, right?
It was just one and done, until maybe now.
Well, we still talk about it to this day. Slacks second place at TI.
That's part of the lore now. Now it is.
We're going to find out what's part of the lore of Team Spirit
because they all have to have a team to go up against tonight.
Is it going to be heroic? Is it going to be a liquid?
That's our upcoming series. We'll see you after a break.
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are getting ready for another lower bracket series.
Heroic taking on Team Liquid in a best of three.
Loser gets left behind on top six.
Winner will be a guaranteed fourth.
And of course, a chance to still make it through
to the final day.
Goes up against Spirit at the end of the day.
But we need to talk about Heroic and Team Liquid
because both of these teams being here,
well, for one, it was a little bit more likely
than the other potentially.
I think a lot of people didn't expect
to see a Liquid down here.
And that's why we're focusing on them first.
So here, Ritigov and Gunnar.
Gunnar, when we're focusing on Team Liquid, there is one thing that they do that maybe other people don't do.
Yeah, well, I think other people aren't doing anything, it's banned every game.
But for Liquid, for some reason, they actually get this hero very consistently.
They've gotten Largo six different times.
That's impressive.
I think that's the most of any team, I want to say.
Bold statement. Best Largo team in the world at the moment.
I don't think it's that bold. I think it's fair. That wasn't bolder to I realize that was like this team guys
That has won a lot with the hero more than any else
Probably is the best at it another bold take one of these two teams will win. Whoa. No way
Actually, yeah, they're both gonna lose because the parker versus heroic is dead. Oh, they're no matter who wins
how many series
Okay, grand finals it'll be like
Do you think they spoke about it? What are we talking about? Yeah, either way liquid lago I do agree
I feel like they're from the from the off lane to the support role
They just understand the hero really well, and they just I think it was in the bottom line of that graphic
Do you see her work hadn't played against?
Yes, so heroic stats for Largo is they played it once and they lost with it this tournament and that was their only
Largo interaction. I think they played they had it on their team in
Blaster dream league and then they won that game
But uh currently I think the cool thing to look about for today is kind of a yandex band verse liquid yesterday
Because it was a two-up. We were not expecting that we were kind of saying liquid been looking really good
if anything if they're two up for liquid so I think
Cass did his research. I think for him today or yesterday, he was like, what did Yandex
ban? What do they do to beat Liquid? The big things Yandex did was on second pick, they
banned the Largo. Like they basically banned the big four versus Liquid. And then on first
pick, I think the cool thing they did was they pick a bunch of magic teamfight skirmishers.
If you see in that draft down there where they have like the Voker, the Kez, the Phoenix,
they just pick all this damage so then when Liquid does their standard group run at you,
You want to fight you have even more damage than they can provide to me
I just really enjoyed the the lunar game from yandex the idea of lunar rising in stock
They could also team that can play the lunar and when you're picking here is like DK even the tide hunter leaving like to the
The off-lane blob expose exposed in a draft there is going to be a chance that lunas can come into play and I've really just
I want to see it once in this series. Yeah, that would be it would be nice and potentially does come out
There's a lot of strategizing happening here. They're all gathered around this laptop.
I'd really love to know like when they won, was that the way that they were doing the like
yell before we knew? Yeah, it was it was for real. Great. Maybe they got to do that today. Maybe they
need the the energy, the vibes. Oh, one thing that they have started doing though is doing the
they're kicking the little football outside. They kind of took that from Astonian P vision.
But well actually well that's you took that from a senior nouns. Yeah, that was from nouns
Yeah, we had a man coach and we would throw a ball to each other and it's he was on the team
So it's actually you know another nouns classic and a Dota back on top, but it's like about the draft for heroic
I think yesterday
They kind of like adapted the drafts. This is games two and three
Where they lost the second game and then they kind of like changed some stuff up
so in the second game was the one they had the timbersaw and
And they didn't really have this like connection and then in the next game they pick void spirit
They pick this more aggressive hero they have someone who can make plays and I thought it was really interesting that
Between two games in the same series
You can see the core of the draft is there or like the shadow fiend the shadow trauma the beast master
But then you change up what you need to fix and they did it really quickly and efficiently
So I'm hoping that they kind of keep those adaptations
They know their strengths at this point because at this point in the tournament you kind of know what works for you and what doesn't
So just do what works for you, make the drafts good, and hopefully there isn't much adapting they need.
Yeah, and for her as well, like Tylong, it's sort of a player that you will always talk about on this roster
due to the stardom, the pub style that he is, but against some of the more experienced midlaners.
Like Nisha?
Yes, potentially like Nisha, even like GPK earlier in the bracket.
He has been not exposed, but it's more like he's been put to the test where he's like playing like a Razor mid, right?
and then suddenly GPK is on an ember breaking the entire map.
It's like, Tylong is like, because of his heroes,
I cannot follow GPK's movements.
I'm just here.
So I feel like Tylong, he is really,
he knows his role for the team exceptionally well.
He's like kind of like a pillar of the early to mid game
through the vibe of the primals.
All his heroes are just ones you want to play through.
But how does Nisha get away with only playing four heroes
has been so far? Five, so far.
Okay, so banning out any heroes are quite difficult
after the first phase,
could you ever have one bad or two bad guys on the side and then you know Pux don't ember tiny because he's so good on them
You can have blind pick them exactly them in most situations
But I'm just looking at a very big disparity between the two mid laners when Nisha
He follows the the same kind of logic of GPK
Where's like he's gonna win his mid lane break them up and Tai Long depending on how they want to draft him
He might not be able to match that pacing which puts even more pressure on he has to be efficient in the lane
The supports need to help out the room contest like you cannot allow liquid to give Nisha
the 4 minute rune, like both water runes potentially 1 water rune, the 6 minute rune and 8, like, it is, like, as much as we look at both mids here, I'm also looking at the supports.
You know, I think, Tylon, there's like games where if he gets picked a hero and it's a, he can't do anything on it, like there's a Razor game I remember I saw, where he was just picked Razor and a really bad Razor game, they picked Pajaro, and it just felt, I felt bad for him, it's like he's dealing with so much struggle, and then you see games where he gets like a bristle and a good game, and he just runs over the entire game.
But that's the thing is like in some of those games where the Razer, the Bristol whatever even though
They're not like playmaker killing heroes like we saw from Nisha if he does get his timings if work can utilize
The the first aura or the first you know 15 minute mid-centric moment
They are gonna break a game if it's not as consistent as let's just put him on a beast master
Let's put him on a voice for it
And even if the early game doesn't go well, you'll still be able to play out the mid to late game
I have a question about the start of the drafts as we have established that Liquid loves Largo.
Everybody bans Largo. Heroic, you lost one game of Largo and then haven't had it since.
Do you think that that means that Heroic, first pick or second pick, they will have to ban Largo,
or will they still take it if they get the chance?
I think the, honestly, probably ban at both sides. I wouldn't be surprised if they ban at both sides,
Their their one longer performance was pretty bad like whisper got kind of cooked in the lane
He didn't get I am mostly just as correct. He lost his power like minute
On the five CG just lost the tower
I there was like a point in the midgame where they kind of came back like they won one fight and you're like
Oh, maybe maybe if they win like another the game will be even but then they kind of like kind of snowballed it out of there
Yeah, there are some unfortunate things that happen, but I
Don't know. I think it's not the
their play style. When I think of Whisper on teams, he's some like beast, not like
beast master, but like, beast player type. And he like, he controls the game, he plays
like so actively, plays so strong. And when you're a Largo, a lot of these like
really impactful offlaners, sometimes the Largo I feel like is a nerf to some
extent. Oh yeah, there you go. Heroic first pick in this game, they do ban out
the Largo in their first, like that's, but that's costly because you only have
three bands it is and other bands that they've done in this position I feel
that they've always had one respect band available from first pick they've never
really fallen into a trap of having to ban three heroes from first yeah the
other concern now for me is I think liquid's gonna leave Shadowfiend and
Marching the Pool and then if Heron takes the Shadowfiend they're gonna get
instant marsy'd yeah boxy will very happily want to play the fall position
marsy's yeah shadow demon shadow fiend even the carry Mickey plays yeah but I
I mean, this draft line, you will assume SD first week for Hurricane is the most stable.
It doesn't create these opportunities that you're mentioning.
Yeah, I would just ban the SD right now if I was liquid.
You leave Marcy Sharafe in the pool.
Batrider is then also in the pool, though.
And Whisper Bat is spooky.
It is spooky, but we are now seeing more and more games of Batrider not taking over the games like it used to, at least.
At some point you have to try and go, is it truly as strong as it used to be?
that you have to make a statement.
I'm trying to think about...
I just think that it's pretty interesting when the drafts play out like this in terms of
kind of like what I was saying, you leave way more heroes in the pool. Like we have
Huskar having to be banned because of the timelines. We have Largo having to be banned.
Oh, Ursa's now, like this is really giving me like SF's going to be
really impactful in this draft. But it's like you ban Ursa,
Herok, let's say take SF
Then it opens up the Mars pick as well for liquid if instead. Yeah, then
It opens up so many heroes like yeah Mars Marsy would be the big two then there's also the
Batrider and then it's the trade of taking SD then taking SF does actually feel good because then in the later phases
Like we can still take a Marsy and a Mars and start protecting and buffing SF in other forms
Yeah, if you take the SD here, they can just go shadowing in a Mars
Yeah, they're also sad. Yeah, and they can even ban the Marcy and then now if there's no Marcy in the pool
What are the really the response and to like a sharpie?
And this all stems from the fact that you have to self-ban
Logo because whenever you enter a tournament if there's a hero that is like the hero of a tournament right back in the day
When Chen I like you have to have a Chen I a player on your team, right?
It's yourself banning these heroes you're gonna put yourselves in a in a difficult position and after all of that
I would just pick anything. Shadow Demon, Esa for Mars, any of those three to me are just like a really simple
Just pick it you'll probably get one of the other three on 13
Like you'll find any combination of those heroes like Shadowfiend Mars, Shadowfiend Marsy, Mars Marsy
Like anything of that is good
The way that we were discussing it as well
I feel like Shadow Demon felt like it wasn't giving as much oomph to a draft and then Batrider
Okay, you have to be convinced in stone you've got ways to punish the inevitable shadow fiend where taking shadow even yeah
I feel like
heroic got them the nicer of the all the options. I think shadow demons the
best
Support to first pick because it's good versus a lot of the metal supports and it sets up for the draft
But if there's some like that writer shadow fiend in the pool, you have to probably just take it
Yeah, but now heroic has two bands surely one of them is gonna at least be shadow demon because you're you're having back
You've got to you know let the bat be there's a there is also the tiny there's like so many annoying heroes to deal with
tiny sharding and Mars would be
Or actually liquid was one of the Oracle teams
It's a BB and liquid of the two that do it, but okay
And they as we talked about this morning, they do it against Batrider
We've had a thing of course there are multiple ways to enable them you already mentioned the tiny with the toss but having
just a strong position five to get it through lane having offline is that
initiate so then Shadowfiend doesn't have the pressure of needing to do it alone
I've seen a lot of carry Shadowfiends where they try to buy Silver Edge but
and because their draft doesn't enable the fight you're expecting a carry
Shadowfiend to like walk into an aggressive position with like maybe
only a shaman to help you out it's you have to just just enable him facilitate
the fight for him to do the damage. One bound for Liquid, Jukira was the other
the support they remove on the side of Heroic, so leaving Shadow Demon in?
Most teams in this division will always ban Mipo just for the viewer, but if Liquid have
the idea of throwing down early heroes that want to break the map, want to be aggressive,
maybe they just set it through.
I think the Mipo for Heroic has been one of the ways that they have been able to deal
with shadow fiends. Ever since the old mega meepo it really just changes some of the
match of play because here it's like when you go oh liquid will pick a tiny and some more ground
stuff it doesn't really matter like he'll get stunned for a bit he'll mega meepo and then he'll
just kill you. So meepo is just very scary when it gets to his like two and a half fight and timings.
So like the Mars for liquid, for me that's like such a simple pick. I would ban the meepo
Like you don't really want to deal with
It's 18 pick as well. It's like so much stress to alleviate
Do you would you worry that if you don't
Dance us pick mars here the dance shadow even actually
Would heroic pick mars
I don't think her roots gonna pick mars
Now I think they're probably gonna pick a support if not the support duo because if you pick the mars and the bat
It's kind of like both of them are committed. You have the mars commit offline
You're the bat likely committed mid sure again. We say like oh, there's a technically batter to carry, but you're not gonna really draft around that
So I think you're kind of like pigeonholes heroic shaft too much
You also need to give credit to Thailand where he will not play a hero
Get told you need to try it and then he'll get to a point where he can competitively play it very quickly
I think a good example was when he joined heroic. It was under Bristol or razor. He didn't play mid
He better qualified and you already work out. He didn't practice the hero
and then they won the qualifier with him playing these heroes.
That could be the argument for Batrider.
He's got four competitive games with Batrider.
Hasn't played it for four years.
After seeing some of the mid laners play it
in the last couple of days, it's time to consider.
Yeah.
But you're like, poor KJ, man.
Just seven games now of Warlock.
Did you like Warlock?
No, I...
Why did you say poor?
Because we spoke to him on the...
Lucky KJ, getting to play seven games.
We spoke to him and he was like,
there's like zero dopamine in Warlock.
He's like, I press Hill, I play early game.
I win.
Previous PGO Wallachia winner, Kari,
had 16 games or something like that in Warlock.
You think he didn't have a good time winning the tournament
with Warlock?
Again, just from what I'm speaking from somebody who
has like 200 plus ranked games of Warlock in the last year,
I have accepted my fate that Warlock is number one.
KJ has not reached that point yet.
Yeah, I think it's a little sick, Jay.
Played enough that it the boredom becomes fun. No, that's true. Yeah, I mean acceptance. Yeah, it's accepted
He's still on the night. We got a toss coming out
For heroic and a tide hunter is an answer to team liquid from team liquid
Okay, I like the tide as opposed to the Mars it gives you a little more anti-bat writer
Like this guy can just walk in and won't really get lassoed the
Dead in the water is also
Decent versus Tusk, like if you get them it prevents us the snowball saves, but I think it's mostly this like pure anti-bat rider here that builds pipe
it also
Explains the Ursa ban, maybe a little bit more. It's just very good against
Whenever you are second pick you have the one ban in the second phase
Having an investment that is always helpful right shaman and us you could argue are both investment bans for liquid
Where you're not expecting it to be like big statement openings or heroic, but when you get to the next phase like
What if we wasted it? So yeah, I like the bands
It does mean that heroic. It's all what Luna did against Tide yesterday in the next sequel series
Maybe there's an argument for for that hero to come into play, but Yuma is yet to play at the tournament
The Bane guys is Yuma gonna see this Bane be like aha a single target spell
that will not work on multiple me for my heroes it's like that you sure there's
ravage and a shadow feral yeah and an avalanche but but what pain does not
deal with me and that's why we jarred copter
you're gonna paint out the band on me post so that you don't get 23 interesting I
I see your game, Kaffs.
He's baiting out a Nipah man.
I see.
So small, so small.
So small.
For the last phase, is it correct to saying
that we are looking for a hero for Yuma indeed
and their flex potential is minimum?
Or the potential is there,
but they're actually gonna flex
is probably not happening on both sides.
So Nisha is still for a liquid looking for it.
Yeah, I think it's like a very straightforward,
honest draft.
I want to say we'll get banned. TA is 100% going to get banned by Liquid, but if it's not, you don't even think.
You get your pick and then TA lights up, just click, go next.
For Heroic, it's Yuma, we need to carry, and for Liquid, you need Mid to play into Viper.
Normally in the position you think about Beastmaster, anything that has wave shoves and doesn't really care about Viper.
You don't allow Viper to play Poison Attack and stand on your high ground.
So you want to turn it into a farm trade, and then like Viper's farming, but only in Ag's and you're farming like just better sort of, yeah.
You have Beastmasters in the pool. I think that would be good for Nishima. He hasn't really played at this tournament, but like obviously he can play it.
You get Roshan for your Shadow Fiend, so then if there is a world where Batrider wants to lasso an objective push.
perspective push but also in theory, Tinyamon is decent vs Viper, it's like okay because
it's easier for you to get the last, like you walk in, kill the creep and then walk
away and then you can start nuking out the wave at like that level 4 ish timing with
crash landing. I also forgot about Invoker so yeah, good
ban there. It would have inevitably got to the point of Catechism late game, Tundra
tried to run this map a line up earlier, it didn't really work out but always a scary
combination of there's so many songs on liquid that try to feed and the middle
yeah yeah I still in I think it's such a good team and Yuma really likes the
hero I hope they actually don't competition with Mipo but they might
like why not but he just looks like it's that's a little face you know if
you're a meat yeah I'm playing to you potentially that's like 15 and whatever
a hero. If you've got Mipo, there's like a smirk, there's a bit of hey hey hey Mipo,
you know, there's like a, there's some life in.
I was just, there's a, I was just, there's a very, I wonder if there's a word of
nature that plays Ember anyway into the Viper for the game, like Ember's bad, Ember's
bad, it's very good versus Tusk. Um, it's not my favorite, but it's definitely a possibility.
At least with that logic then Storm, I think would be the better version, because you can
Just I just think storm those are the lane more
Well, you don't go you go slight chains usually and then you play to like chain the creeps and like hopefully slight and like drag
It out words ember kind of has to and you can dodge attacks with the side effects where a storm plays a bit more honest
It walks in remins. He takes three like he's like how also the movement speed from ember. He's like
25 more than the storm. I think 20 or 25
So it's just like the ability to walk away from the Viper feels better
You wanted a Luna today. You get one. There we go. You're welcome. I'm so happy to see Luna. Are you actually? Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I've been raving about this here. I've been raving about this fast at the time. So right now, V'lai here is like, this is the, this is the start of what Luna has to offer in the competitive scene.
of the scene. In tournaments to come you guys will be bored talking about luna because teams
are going to be picking it more and more. That moonshield 2 and 2, it's okay. In the future
it'll be like 8 and 3. But yeah, free lane against hide, damage reduction when you're playing quite
a bursty lineup of liquid is going to be very helpful and then you always itemize to be tanky.
You want to buy BKB, you want to buy hierarchal fight, you want to buy satanic.
Lena I actually was like Lena could be interesting here, but I don't know if they want the double turret with shadow fiend
But it it survives the viper. Yeah, I think the heroes a bit underrated. There's also technically a chance
I've seen I believe there's more reen did it grieves Lena
Which would be pretty good this game versus like the viper versus the bat writer
And gives you this early game. I'm still magic damage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay
You can even go the physical with the grieves the idea is that
But any hero that kind of has built in damage can go griefs, I think, but he's probably
going to go either the treads or the travels, go more of a standard build.
I would assume physical damage this game and become like a tanky right clicker.
I mean, Liquid's lineup is about punishing Heroic's way to start a fight, right?
You've got a tough initiation or a back-right initiation.
If you don't initiate correctly, the double turret of SF or Lina will be ready to kill
that hero and then turn around the engagement because the teamfight Heroic is more like
get 20 blobs in objective positions and right click and that is not gonna be a
good recipe as the game progresses with the type of Lana that Liquid has so yeah
for heroic they need to hit their timings really nicely I think the
Lena just puts this like this teamfight timer on her right like having a
little pick-off Lena a shadow fiend all the control it's actually just gonna be
a fun game is there is our favorite well merits to both sides
Seems like I
Worry about the stuns of heroic skin out of the game, but I like the heroes
I think for me
I honestly a big move this game is going to be piling level 6 TP into the safe lane
Mm-hmm if Luna does like good in the lane and the Viper TP's and ults the tide
There's this like really big thing in the matchup where you'll the tide he gets broken you kill him
Luna, maybe it's the tower you get the seven-minute wizard room that they always fight about you
I think if that like early game all goes to plan it's gonna be really good for her
Do we think liquid is going to hard address Yuma's need for experience runs?
Yeah, I think that they're the type of team to watch replays
Figure out and it's kind of he's been having that type of play style on every team for the past like two years or more
Where he's like always wanting to fight those things. Oh, and no, it doesn't matter if his lanes go well or going
He sees three heroes like that. I'm gonna stand in the middle that I'm gonna fight you guys
And you're gonna have boredom and then lead no they don't get bored. They just kill him
But yeah kill you if you go to the center with them
Just be ready for for the Greshan and for her oh just like you bring even more heroes bring your mid laner bring your off laner
Five heroes in a party seven minutes. What's there's a gate? That's what gates are for you know
Which for shows up takes a gate back to top
Sacks only a thousand gold and toes of XP, but it's all good. It's all good
It sounds like a fun time happening at the experience room first though a fun time before the game starts with cast and slacks
Fun time. This is a very serious time here.
Caps is all business here today.
Walking out of that booth, not a smile.
Don't look at a smile now. He's lying.
He was very serious.
How do you feel about this series coming up?
I mean, Liquid is what many had you in the past
that said the team to beat here,
but they can bleed as we saw yesterday.
Did you prepare a lot?
Are you ready for this team?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, we didn't expect to play them so early
into the tournament, but Yandex looked very dominant yesterday.
I think they improved a lot throughout the tournament.
And yeah, we did our best with prep.
We didn't expect them to leave bat,
because it's Whisper's bat.
And they left it.
But I think at least his first drafts were good.
Let's see how it goes.
Absolutely.
They gave you two iconic heroic heroes.
You got the Whisper bat, and you got the Thailung Viper.
I want to ask a little bit about that.
Does he enjoy playing Viper?
Because I talk to these players, they like playing.
the storms, the flashy, the, and Viper's kind of the daily hit button, but he's really good at it.
I think he actually really enjoys playing. It's like, I think he sees the hero a bit different
than other people sees it. He sees all the opportunities that the hero gives for you to
take over the game and pressuring early game, and pressuring early game is fun, you know?
You go and you're just like, you know, just fuck people.
Okay, let's just say that let's just get it out there fantastic now
Would you say that the mid Viper in your opinion is a lot better than this off lane Viper that we've seen sometimes because it's kind of like
We've seen a lot of tri-lanes developing over the course of this tournament in response to that
Yeah, the Viper offline is way more punishable
I think Viper offline you just need to make sure that you have good super authority game
And you have a really good matchup and play around it
I think when when like two patches ago we were playing Viper offline when we had
the Vylamma. I think at that point Viper was way stronger than Alka's the eggs
were broken and the hero got nerfed and then he would work in every single role
carry mid offline but right now it's it's like I think it's not even that good
of a hero it's just a decent hero but just Tyloong just completely dominates
the hero. Absolutely well a lot of the opposition that I've been talking to the
The coaches have been saying against Liquid, the main focus is shut down Nisha.
Don't let him breathe.
Get in his face.
Is this kind of what you guys are thinking or are you going to be playing on your own
style for this series?
I mean, just to not give him puck, right?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, I think I learned my lesson.
Okay, absolutely.
He's playing Lina for some reason.
Have you guys seen Nisha playing Lina this tournament?
No, not pitch, not fan, not anything.
Yeah, so I think it worked.
Okay, fantastic.
Well, we'll see if that Lena can carry or if it will hopefully be destroyed by you guys. Thank you so much for your time
Let's get into the game
heroic liquid
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Dota time
Dota time indeed. Let's get back in the lower bracket here game one best of three team liquid taking on heroic and as
Kassan slacks were saying there's some little nuggets of information back left in for whisper one of his classic signature heroes
And then Nisha shifted onto the Lena. Yeah, Lena here
We haven't seen at all in our games. We get to see it mid. We were talking about different heroes picking and lane against the Viper
It's not a very big roster that actually feel comfortable against him
But a good laning start here with a nice body block getting on the high ground
Lina can be one of those problematic heroes for Viper to deal with absolutely can and panel talking about Thailand and these first moves
Cap saying that this young player sees Viper quite differently
notices all the little building blocks that can actually get you into this early game domination stage
We'll be looking towards that early rotation to bottom lane to start safeguard
Yuma and that wisdom shrine, which he so regularly
Contests. Yeah, it will be hard for him to be as mobile as the lean about viper not necessarily a super fast hero
But if he can get off to a good start, maybe he can make those connections to the side lane come in with the old
You especially on to tide is gonna point it out. It's gonna be really strong to break him early
Yeah, curious to see what the item builds are because we've had Viper go for, you know,
Bongo boots or boots of travel, deciding kind of how fast you want to play, and Lina has
been a similar story.
You know, Guardian Greaves mentioned we've had previously Magic Damage Lina, Physical
Damage Lina, but she's also a hero that can go boots of travel too.
Yeah, and with the travels she could play very fast in some of the setup that they have
on their team.
They have Tiny, they have Bane, good heroes to catch people on the side lanes.
I'd imagine they're looking at Nisha's quick buy. Yeah, yeah, who's a travel after the couple of nulls and bottle cued up already
So should be able to keep tempo with the viper and his moves
And Nisha just doesn't strike me as a player who wants to go for greaves first on lina
It is a certain five-man type doda playstyle and Nisha quite often more farm oriented play towards his own strength
Playback farm jungle and then join when you are needed
So far, 8 and 2, compared to the Vipers, 4 and 3, 4 and 4 now, so Nisha ahead ever so
slightly in that early laning stage with the first couple of waves going pretty well for
him.
Tolfu on the bane, definitely a clear advantage against Tusk in the laning stage, Tusk with
Boots can't really drag the waves the way he wanted to, he tried to go for it there,
gonna miss.
So his top laning is already starting to look pretty good for the SFN bane.
Yeah, bane one of the best heroes that's stopping any lane shenanigans, making sure these
melee plus fours are shut down some what are they going head to head with a
poison attack stacking up and Nisha's got the better of Thailand first blood
mid lane solo kill Nisha gets the outplay he tried to contest the top
water rune got there a little bit too late and then there's the thing where
Lena is just a really fast hero eight sticky stacks on Mickey but the
nightmare save and the turnaround raise boxes arrival speed from liquid coming
with tempo to blow up the bat. Mikae stands his ground, he's tanking through it all,
steal the core, can't kill him off! Liquid, 3-0 star. Fantastic start for the lanes.
Mikae going to get some heal from the healing loaders coming in as well. Bane, happy to pass
him some tangles. Give him any bit of resource he can. That's going to feel so good as Liquid.
Boxes first move, Nisha's first kill. Incredible beginnings to this game and an ace happy as you
like dragging wave behind his tower to keep on farming.
Mika dropping pretty low.
Giving Lotus is ready to save him though.
Spook it.
Charlotte will miss those.
Mika gets further to the north to dodge any further aggression.
Top lane definitely the place to look.
As the pull happens, they could try and dive with this.
Whisper already stacking up Tofu.
They've got a full wave and a cliff on it arriving.
So Tofu died by Helicor and Whisper.
Mika trying to raise and successfully so kills off
the tusk.
Yes, they lose the bane, but the turnaround play liquid!
Oh, that is glorious! They get two in the trade!
Got a lot of boxy showing up and literally just auto-attacking.
To trial-laning?
Tiny with no matter, just slapping him a little bit, like, yeah, you go down.
Oh, we've seen this previously in the past, you know, oh, we're against the Tireblade, let's go gank him in the trial lane.
Oh, mid lane, we've got a strong hero, let's go trial-lane there.
Trial-laning of safe lanes, something we don't see very often, but boxy basically making it work.
I mean, we've been seeing it a lot, how it moves towards safe lane, just TPing and reacting.
It's not necessarily that you start out with a mentality that all we're gonna play hard to do towards this thing.
It's adaptation to how the game is going. If they're tower diving, you TP.
Where's Micky? Where's Micky going?
They're ganking mid lane.
The Troy lane has moved middle lane as a quad lane from Liquid onto Tylon to blow up the Viper.
Nightmare on the toss back on Tilecore.
He's got no snowball. He's spitting shards and another kill, a 7 to 1 star.
Wow, no team that you and I have cast have had this type of start against Heroic.
Heroic are always the team that come out swinging.
You know, early game is their strength, has been their strength throughout the games that we've been casting.
Liquid are addressing it hard.
We had this exact conversation during our cast yesterday, right? Talking about Heroic.
I think Liquid was the only team's name that came up as even being close to the speed at which Heroic plays, but usually as a reactive play.
Ace being run at here by Yuma, ThielaCore and KJ.
They've got enough damage eventually to tickle him down, took a while though, as Ace is quite tanky on his own.
Meanwhile, back, nightmare toss back, gives the avalanche and raises, whisper, his signature Batrider being annihilated as we've got seven lasting presence stacks on Mickey's Shadow Fiend!
Where's your armor now?
It's just chain feed at this point, you have to wait out the stacks, but you need to get experience from lane, mine is 18 armor.
God damn you, you're not fighting this!
Bulkers!
It's funny how the little 60 damage auto attack is going to suddenly do 100 damage.
Mental?
My incredible speed from Liquid and Anisha, level 6 on this leaner.
Having got that solo kill first blood, halfway through level 6, double knolls plus bottle up.
A ton of damage output from this mid lane now.
And they get the D.D. rune spotting top as well.
That's why he's the goat. He gets the rune, Scarith.
They need another kill. They need to know that this lasting presence is about to time out, man. They can't let it wear off.
Yeah, they want to produce more, but sadly, Batrider is respecting it way too much. He's not gonna feed into the SF again.
We're not going to get eight stacks at minute seven.
A bit too early.
Heroic, no. They need to break free of liquid grasp, trying to make a Twin Gate play up to top.
Usually we see them play into this safe lane to contest the wisdom shrine, but they know they've got to come back to defend their own
Mika out in the open giving wrapped a round on goes for the wreck because there are no more stuns after the snowball
Hitting the trees tucked away forces them back with a fear and they can't follow through
Lucent beam didn't come in while tofu and foxy. They're on the viper
Nisha's double damage rune into whistler. Laguna played
Half-HP back gets up at the high ground and stays alive for now with the fatal ones out
They're trying to turn and battle with King Jungles there, but they lose too!
Needs you for the double kill, Snowball!
Loosenbeam, finally, Harrow, it gets something!
But they've lost so much already!
That was really costly for them, to stole the Wisdommer as well.
They do get some kills on the back of it, but SF lived and walked away.
Luna just didn't ulti, or didn't stop the ulti with her Loosenbeam.
She had the castration, I'm not sure if there was some miscommunication happening.
Or I got into fog, yeah, I couldn't figure it out.
No, he was definitely in vision.
That's after the fact.
Replay, we can already see him walking away happily.
So, Mick get back to farming immediately.
Went working on his power treads, then we see the DD rune just standing tall because of it.
Everyone kind of running away.
I mean, overall, heroic getting some big kills there.
1,200 gold going their way.
A decent swing in net worth as Yuma picks up the double kill.
Important to give it to the carry hero for sure.
But it doesn't stop there. They've got to keep this train running.
And snowball towards Boxing, Invis, countered by Sentry, with a toss back on the tower, puts ThielaCorn in an awkward spot.
Laguna Blade and the right click from Nisha, plenty damage to take him down.
Very nice toss back, recognizing that, you know what, just throw him to mid laner, he's gonna happily throw an ulti on him.
But Whisper has been shut down so much. Not even 2,000 net worth, not even level 6, 8.5 minutes in.
And more importantly, he does have a point in Flame Break, so this is this fighting build. It doesn't recover as fast. He doesn't max out Firefly.
It's going to be pretty rough for him. The journey back. 16 CS only.
It's a little bit reductive, a little bit linear, but these heroes, Viper and Batrider, magic damage, right? Lots of magic damage.
Very good early on. Very good tempo. Can play fast.
If they get shut down early and you're looking at Lina SF, the double turret, which Gunner has been saying this, this matter so far in the tournament, relying on these kind of turret heroes just to stand there and deal damage, if they get BKBs I'm really worried for Heroic to deal with them.
We have a setup up top, sleep pulling him in, SF Races. Not going to get him killed, but does bring him extremely low again and he does not have tranquil boots.
I think more importantly as well, it's the fact that they have all the physical damage needed to go through Viper's high magic resistance.
Viper typically a hard hero to kill if you only have magic damage, but when you have both Lina and SF, either of them could kill the Viper quite quickly.
And on the side of heroic, like you mentioned, the magic damage is going to be their key damage output early game.
If Ace goes for a pipe, how is that going to feel?
rough. Now Aces got himself a quickened chipped vest so even faster farming
through the jungle. Claire's at the bottom wave and looks to join his team
minute 10 runes spawns top. A shield rune there not gonna be grabbed.
Boxie is sprinting forward towards Ty Lung to get the rinse. Very speedy tiny
puts the Viper onto Ty. Snowball save though by some time. Snowball back
towards Nisha but the ravage on three catches them out. Heal the Goron King
jungles trying with the fatal bombs to run forward with the humor they picked up a kill
on tofu but tight hunters gonna slip away
running to safety batrider teeping trying to go behind trying to catch
Nisha on the back end of the fight but the avalanche provides enough cover
boxy the umbrella of safety here might just be the sacrifice but he tosses
batrider back lasso's still ready though they're gonna have to spend it right I
think it maybe not he did he did there's nobody teeping no help they're looking
towards SF now. SF does have Bane nearby behind him, so even if they do commit on Miki, it
might be turned around by Bane's nightmare. 21 kills in 11 minutes. Very, very high octane
game. Yeah, we cannot, cannot knew what was going to happen with these two teams clashing
heads against each other. See other cores being set up on. It's a nightmare. Sleepwalk
again back into the shadow fiend boxy's avalanche provides the stun to stop the snow ball
in effect acts as a route against the tusk. Yeah very nice combination these heroes work so well
together tiny can toss on to the SF we have the bane to set up for SF races as well even for the
ulti there's two supports that really complement Micka's hero and this lina about a thousand ahead
of the viper we see that earlier boots of travel viper has just finished his but lina is already
well on her way to the dragon lands so more stats more range looking from the
lands of heroic though they're on the back foot they have some things that
didn't go their way the batter rider struggling a lot but Luna she is 501
she's top farmer right now by a mile and she has a really really ramping build
with the mask madness into the Manta style from there already queuing up the
agonim scepter I think that could be the pivotal point when they can start
taking big fights.
Mission box is set mid.
Having already taken that top tier one,
and having two Dire Observer wards
watching from top left corner through
to the raiding ancients,
they see every access point
other than the south east.
At the haste run on Lina as well, with the shield rune.
Just full rune control from all these dominant early game fights.
Clear out your opponent's stacks.
Take away all the pieces of the pie.
So heroic can only really play bottom lane bottom jungle while liquid had access to two lanes in the entirety of the map otherwise
Yeah, they're getting getting a whole lot of farm right now one minute from now the wisdom rune will spawn
So probably they want to still hang around the area up top a TV in Baltimore the viper
Break the tides. It's possible. He could die to meet tusk to come closer
The ace of spades getting snowballed on, broken by the Viper Strike, Golem dropped on his head, found Ravage!
And he's gonna stun them up, looks nice, but there's no follow up at all.
That best case scenario right there, you get to kill, he spends their average, he probably thought that maybe there would be some TP coming in from his friends, but no.
They were on the way but not quite in time.
They quit reggying themselves to defend this tower though. Tofu smoked with boxy wrapping around.
around. Nisha trying not to show on the wave, speeding forward and aiming for the backstab.
Boxy can't quite get the grab onto Yuma. They spot him on his way in, so instead it'll
be King Jungles dragging their attention. Follow me, come on chase, Shard tried to block,
but Nisha has a nice gap to play through and finds the warlock in the end.
Sadly this warlock is not quite enough to run away from the sorceress chasing him.
what started as a heroic push into bottom tier one turns out to be liquid
getting the objective and golden not getting what it wants quick deny on that
at least Luna dipped out of the area and stayed safe getting her to map style
is going to be very important for them but yeah the tempo coming in is also
greatly favoring liquid in many ways they stole the wisdom earlier but all
these objectives that taking out the tier one towers the kills they've gotten
look at Boxy. He's already seeing at 1650 gold. It's so early in the game and he's closing in on a blink dagger.
Once Tiny gets blinked, you and I have been seeing some crazy stuff coming out from Team Spirit with it, tossing onto the SF repeatedly.
Here, you have combos of bound. He could play with Lina or with his SF or he just supports.
And it's the fact you can take two heroes out of the fight, right? Like Tiny can go on one and do this toss back in the Requiem play you're talking about.
about and then Bane can look at another and say okay I'm going to nightmare grip the Batrider or
the Viper and make sure that this counter initiation doesn't happen. Maybe shut down the tusk to stop
a snowball save. Lots of answers, but Boxy is going to get run at. Snowball eclipsed,
tossed back at the ref, you're not going to pay off properly, feel the core still being clicked
but Mica can't take the tusk down. Timing wasn't quite there a little bit early on the SF ulti
that's why we kept singing the praises how it's not the easiest combo to pull
off there's a faulty with kai asha is so fast you get a weight for that toss to
fly a little bit getting feared midair yeah actually stops them from moving as
well might be the worst nature's gonna come across has a couple levels in
light striker a now as you had skipped out on them early on this nightmare
and a stun perfect set up to take down the Bat Rider who is still floundering
down at the bottom of the net worth of the cores.
Yeah, Lina meanwhile at the top and I like the build that Pneesha is going for.
Travels into Hurricane Pike immediately, prioritizing a safety tool against the catch that they have.
Speaking catch, Teolikor, he's going to be safe for now because I have the ward so...
Boxy.
Puzz4 recognizes Puzz4.
Boxy knows.
Something's not quite right over here.
But needs a shot. I'm gonna block the approach while Mickey sprints in from the north
River
Offers protection to the bar room brawler
And we can have a listen into Mickey and his call here
Really funny timing
This was not a live listening this was a little bit before he's not saying that while he got ganked
They were not scared you can't keep on falling on the map. I'm right. I'm gonna run at you
I turned into a very comedic effect
Or maybe it gets taken down and this time they can start seeking up the tower with the SF dead the golden a
Big kill for heroic. Yeah, but you can tell the intentions from liquid
They want to play a big map set up with their support some silence used to travels
And keep picking up anyone who goes alone. Unfortunately this time it was the SF going along
I tighten up again though, playing as three with the Bane tiny tide in towards Lina.
Now we're 17 minutes in so we're in this period of the game where we're looking into
Corkill to Roche to Tormentor.
That spiral effect.
Well the pipe is a big, big item here.
Top and Boxy.
He's got the jump on Batrider and there's one of the combos.
Toss back into Lich Striker rate.
Dump the damage onto Whisper and keep the Batrider locked down.
Yeah, I think they want to start forcing a lot of 5-man engagements due to having both golem on cooldown right now and pipe ready
So they can go for Roche. They can go for tier 2 pressure even. It's gotta be Roche immediately
I'm making sure he gathers up the farm mid so there's no simple push into tier 1 while he's tanked up for Nisha
And the Roche bit need a little bit of help from the SF. He'll arrive momentarily
Yeah, Titus can be completely fine
Just need that added bit of damage. So in the meantime, Heroic trying to absorb some
of the space on the map that's uninhabited. Viper is on that far right edge, gathering
up some farm. Lunar's in the bottom jungle. While Liquid go for a bit of a slow Rosh here,
eventually going to be able to bring him down. Thanks to that poor kill on the Batrider to
start it off. Yeah, it's not the fastest Rosh, but they can take it and there's not much
Heroic could do about it.
Golem has got a cool name 40, but now with Aegis over on the Lena, it gets harder and
harder to set up some good fights.
I'm looking at the Shadowfiend and Lena and it seems like they're having different ideas
within themselves, what items to buy.
Misha was looking at Lincoln's sphere.
Mekke, thinking about Blink Lincoln himself, who have the shift towards BKBs potentially.
And as Misha does change his mind, it heads towards that.
Because this timing with BKB calls on Liquid, again coming back to the fact that magic damage for Heroic is so vitally important, you completely negate it.
I think Lina growing BKB is the important one. If she has Hurricane Pike and BKB, she can basically just go in and start laying in the right clicks onto either Bat or the Viper if he stands his ground.
Viper does have Crimson Guard now, that will protect him a little bit. But if Esseth is there with Mineshaw and Aurora and Lina is auto-attacking away, you still drop pretty fast.
Yeah, then you look at a situation where Heroic kind of have to spend lasso, Viper Strike Eclipse to kill off one of the liquid cores and there's always going to be this backup one still remaining.
Reminds me of a couple of years ago, maybe a year and a half ago, we were casting a bunch of those qualifiers where we had TB Sniper.
Yeah, right, two kind of glass cannon, high damage dealing, long range heroes.
It can be greedy, but it offers two targets and only one of them will, will the god of them die if you get yourselves at a laning stage, which of course liquid would have done.
Yeah, the double right click core can be really effective sometimes, and that's what we're seeing happening in this game.
Usually it does depend on getting a good start, getting good lanes, and you can't really ask for much better start to the game than Liquid had.
So here it might get away pretty unpunished, as it is a little bit greedier.
Short goes over to the Tiny, not the most impactful for our support Tiny, does give him Tiny a bit more burst.
Faking out the twin gate.
Is Tofu going to come through this time?
The holocaust is watching.
Really bro?
You're going to keep doing me like this?
Toying with the tusk.
It's a smoke up from heroic, but they smoked under a ward I think, at least very close
to it.
I think they may have realised on liquid.
Bane draws the circle and liquid.
Yeah.
Interesting. Aegis on Lina here, going to get Lasso back in, but has the Hurricane Pike after Lasso ends.
Snowball going deep, this is risky from Heroic. I think Thiela Koole is just going to pay the price.
Boxie could still look with a jump in two seconds with Blink cutting off cooldown.
Has the potential to toss back into Rectium and this time it's good.
Ravage, clips onto three, Viper stunned up by Nisha, chain disabled on a tight lung as A stands as ground and delivers.
Buyback from Whisper wanting to extend this one of Liquid disengaging while Ace is being focused.
A little too far forward that Tidehunter will get turned on.
That Bane also drops before he could TP out. Big punish coming out from Heroic. They actually turned that into a great fight.
Started out very promising with the combination plays, but in the end they got caught by this Golem drop onto them, bounce.
I mean, a lot of heroes just dropping very, very quickly because they stacked up, and
I guess we haven't really pointed out, but the AoE damage they have on heroic is really
good.
Once you all clump up, there's a lot of different things, the spit on the ground, the fatal
bonfire fly, Lunar ulti, kind of AoE, and it all starts out with the other core going
very deep.
Alright, buyback from Whisper.
Yeah, this felt like it should be a fight that works out for them.
They get the Batrider immediately, but the buyback turns this thing around.
As soon as Agz.
Yeah, and Crimson Guard as well, because Lina was turning out, Lina had to run basically,
could not finish the Viper, and they just add some Deliver.
And Ace has just left alone in the Upheaval.
Yeah, give it up for Warlock, man.
What a teamfight winning hero.
So I'd hunt a soup.
I don't know who says that Warlock would be boring to play.
This is a satisfying plus five.
He's the Batarrow in the game.
I dropped a golden you watched him suffer a bit you put fatal bonds on five heroes and watch the
Demonic pentagram appear as damage is dished out on to all your enemies. Yeah, it's great
Well, we'll breathe a here is we'll have a bit of time to think about
I'm actions and consequences. So that was a one fights with the the Luna agonim scepter now
She's closing in on the BKB as well. Just a thousand gold to go
I really wonder if Mickey will reconsider this Lincoln Sphere because it feels like he needs BKB into this magic damage of heroic I
Would agree because he has blink right?
Going in yeah blinking forward having BKB is nice
There is a whole lot against BKB is the thing though right you could say that there's technically four abilities to pierce BKB
You get the the viper strike the lasso the punch and the golem as well
So I can see the argument and he feels the biggest problem for him
if he gets lassoed or vitra struck, which I can agree with.
Makes sense.
But even so, I still think the BKB mitigates most of the damage he would take, and if they
all want to blink in together, it's this all or nothing.
They all blinked in in previous fights, but then they couldn't stand and just fight because
of, you know, the goo on the ground, the upheaval, the nether toxin, bunch of stuff on the ground,
they just have to bail.
If they have BKB, they can't ignore those things.
Do we live in a world where he just goes both, Lincoln's then BKB?
He could, but it will take a very long time before you get both, and I would rather see him, you know, probably just head towards, like, even Silveridge in this game, BKB Silveridge, because he is playing as the viper, even breaking Luna is not that bad.
Or even Batrider for that matter, you slap him and he gets no movement speed. Silveridge is a very good utility item overall now.
now. Luna quite ahead in terms of the farm metrics, more last hits, more net worth, more
gpm of course. In fact, he's going to get up top for just a split second, he would keep
you away though. Still got to give props to this whisper bat rider though, right shut
down and lane heavily, heavily focused, having to buy back to win fights but still having
impact with incredibly low net worth and playing as if he's another support. The worry is as
the game gets longer, that impact is going to wither and die.
Yeah, he's doing what he can, but it's soon gonna be passing of the torch where he says
okay Luna, you have to hard carry me.
Like I can only do so much.
He didn't finish the bomber boots.
He's going for an early A on this build with Blink Dagger.
This is much more a sacrificed initiation based Batrider.
I'm a clockwork.
Yeah.
He's gonna serve as a catching tool.
than that he won't be having that much damage to bring to the fights nor staying power for that matter
well it's not been one fell swoop from liquid after that laning stage fast roshan and tormentor
which it felt like as they built up a nice head of steam in the first 20 minutes heroic being able
to bite back and play through this yuma luna have given themselves some room to play into so now
they can start thinking about top tier one maybe a roshan of the ron and a smoke here from those
those three heroes going to gather up and try and find a catch on somebody.
Yeah, looking to connect on an important target, Tide could die, but he does have people nearby.
It could backfire extremely hard.
Lena will of course be able to travel in quite quickly as well.
Looks like they have a good read on liquids.
They're all backing away from it.
Liquid as well, queuing up the double silvage.
So like we talked about against the Viper, going to be insanely good to have the break
Both SF and Lina wants to get one.
And Axe is both an aggressive tool against Viper, but also a defensive tool, right?
If you're not dusted or under sentry, you could maybe get away from a clips or reposition in a fight.
Yeah, and Nisha did go back for the double, by the way, BKB and Lincoln Sphere.
Oh, wow.
So, I mean, this is very similar to old Carrie Luna, Lina.
Old Carrie Lina, or the most recent successful Carrie Lina, was basically the Gleitner build,
where she went tons of survivability and would have like four and a half thousand HP.
And you hardly built any damage item because you didn't need it.
She has so much built-in damage on this hero.
All you need is to stay alive.
Look at this itemization.
BKB Hurricane Pike, Lincoln Sphere Next.
You could even argue that Shadowblade and Silver Edge has a bit of survivability added.
So...
Best way to do damage is to stay alive.
Yeah.
As long as you have a good chassis, let's say, as Lina is, she just does the damage on her.
ability draft talk right there the hero body yeah it's a good good base model to
do damage with absolutely is
Lincoln's number one is complete Lincoln's number two not quite done yet
500 gold to go for the nation so they're trying to delay the next big fight
until then 5k lead being held not being advanced and heroic coming into this top
jungle preparing for the next potential Roshan who could be up in the next 10 seconds looking
for a kill deep in the enemy jungle but Nisha has already extricated himself from what could
have been a really awkward position. They've been doing really well with dodging the ganks
on the side of Liquid. I don't know if they realize just how close it's been, down bottom,
now up top, but obviously they realize that they're gonna play the area, it was just so
close both times. Very tight and that's given time there for
Anisha to finish off, or very nearly finish off that Lincoln's fair, just needs, yeah, the two camps on the right hand side should do the job.
And then Boxy comes across with a D-Ward so they can reclaim that northern jungle.
And we see that there's a minute left until the Rochand comes back up.
It's gonna be a top Roche, that area is being held for now by Heroic,
but I think Liquid are trying to make claim to the lands throwing down the banana observer by Boxy.
No, he had bananas for that radiant roach on the die side of the map
Yeah, I mean radio. Yeah, right there outpost nearby
Exactly, I'll see if her I can actually claim it
So I think I think liquid
Have an idea that's part of their core territory
And this one the batter is complete of course. He does have the chance to jump in first
Problem is the same could be there. What if tiny reacts to the goal by batter
and tosses the Batrider towards a teammate, dragging the lasso target along with it.
That would be a play right there.
Did you break the lasso?
That's not even a break, he would pull him.
He would keep the lasso going.
He could break it, but why not just use the Batrider to transport your teammate to safety?
Liquid Catherine up.
Invasion for Whisper.
I'm gonna smoke from Liquid, they found a Warlock, KJ on his high ground, trying to slip away
with his Glimmer Cave but he's being tossed back onto Micae and Roshan has respawned.
He got a little bit too close, he does have buyback and of course top Rosh still close
to the outposts but does seem like Liquid are starting to have all the tools they need
to go for a big fight. 400 gold for an Agadam scepter to complete. 200 gold now for a Tide
Hunter. He's trying to work on that. We see him scribbling on the map saying, guys, I
want to farm these two camps, then I'm joining. It might be a fight happening before them,
though.
They want to make something of this.
Whisper and Yuma, Eklips and Lasso finds the Bane.
The Tiny jumped in as well, so both Liquid supports Fall to a beyond-God-like Yuma.
And Heroic is their Roshan.
Makes you wonder, did they need to finish the Agnems on Tide?
Had he been there where the pipe things could have looked so different?
Obviously he wants to play to a Power Spike, but now Heroic.
And there's no buyback to Liquid either.
So if they're moving forward in a 3v5, Gush into the pit, Rosh about half HP.
Liquid, thinking about how to approach this, because they do have some very strong core heroes,
but it's risky business without your supports, without your Tiny in particular.
Yeah, they're not auto-attacking fast enough into Rosh though, finally going in and starting it.
I'm going to die a scan in the top jungle so they know someone's coming from that direction.
Ace is going to keep trying to poke at them with a Gush spam.
He took the last hit on it, but now broken by the Viper Strike.
Heroic won't chase it, respecting Liquid, but Aegis, for Yuma, snatching it up.
Yuma is 10-0 and 4. He's still absolutely owning in this game.
Double smoke. Both teams about to clash. Yuma leads out.
A steer clip, so it's towards them. Boxy tosses Yuma into the ravage, so Luna down the first time now.
Mechanisha, the Hurricane Pike out of the igloo, gets distance for liquid, but the lasso on Tiny drags Boxy back into Viper and Lunar.
A toss back, a little awkward, but looks like Yuma's alright.
Trying to toss him forward, not enough though to put him out of position.
Heroic, standing strong, and immediately losing the Aegis as well, so any inkling they had there, playing aggressively across the map, suddenly shut down.
It stays a volatile game, open for anyone.
At this point, 5k lead means very little.
Yeah, the gold bead is nice for liquid, but Heroic definitely have everything they need to force fights as well.
Batrider may be weak, but Luna is insanely ahead.
Feel the call with a shard. Very adept at clearing waves now.
Whisper.
Are you sure?
Get spotted.
Gonna get jumped on.
Obstetly KB, Lincoln's pop to clips comes in, they've stunned her up, and Nisha's Lena dead.
Not even a shield, Rinka protect her.
She wanted to play for the Torment area, it was the first one to TP top and try and set up, but did not have his entire team with him.
So they lose the Rosh and now similarly gonna lose the Torment as well.
Her Rok'r clawing their way back.
I feel like a dead even game and from the lady stage it felt like the snowball was building and liquids pressure was gonna be too much
The heroic have found their way in the free shard is gonna be really nice for batter I there as well get something for himself
There's not still not that far behind the tide
Depending this without Nisha
For the toss back on Viper into the requiem half HP Tylong getting burst down
tanky fellow snowball safe breaks free of the grip as they move back in
catching up Mickey but he's got a bit of distance as the tight hunter bound and
broken fatal bombs dishing airy damage back into liquid and humor just opens up
shredding through ace a few more touches will do the job
Bane down and Mickey he's been scouted he needs a bit of healing and saving but
whisper with the stacks of napalm on him take down the shadow fiend I mean
They're chasing for more, even. I don't think Whisper can quite catch the tiny defending without 20,000 gold net worth Lina.
And for what feels like the first time this game, Heroic have to lead 21 to 21 in kills, but the items just keep racking up and humor on this LUNA.
It's just monstrous!
Yeah, getting so many good fights, and a lot of it's on the back of Whisper going first and initiating, recognizing that, okay, I can head in.
This time sure, they tossed in the Viper, who proved to be really tanky, saved from the Tusk.
And the Crimson Guard, on the Viper, the Eondisk on the Whisper Batrider, keeping him alive, and these Fable Bonds.
And the Tide, of course, is gonna get the Blobber off, but the damage was already done.
And back in live, we have a high ground push, tier 3 tower already dropped.
Luna, when the tier 3 tower is gone...
Uh, without people at attack speed?
Yeah.
Say goodbye to your base!
It's just immediate.
They saw the Tiny on mid, trying to catch him with Tusk.
Good avalanche from Boxy, but can't get a Toss back.
Nisha wanted to try and get something here.
Laguna Blade and Cleks regen up with a Crimson.
Oh no, he's fine!
Wow, he thought he would get the kill.
No!
He even turned around confused like, what?
He didn't die, but it was Thailand with the Crimson Guard.
Saving Teolikor.
Incredible.
They've done a great job saving each other.
There's been some like small details, passing healing lotuses.
you know the heel the snowballs a lot of things have just been signs of the teamwork that they're showing on heroic
on Misha
sending a message to his team that he thinks they need a gem
Q-ing about 10 of them and his quick buy and box. He's like fine fine. I'll buy a gem then
I think
I think he's not wrong the silvredge on luna
Silvredge is just this crazy item 17 second duration in this with 20 second cooldown
It's nearly like becoming Ricky on any carry that buys it.
When a tide is buying BKB, you know it's bad.
Yeah.
Or good.
Whichever.
I mean, lands you look through.
The BKB is good, but yeah, the game states it's pretty rough for him right now.
He definitely wanted to be able to go for like Shiva's or something, to be able to frontline.
But in this game, it's going to be hard for him to stand his ground.
And the Tusk is closing in on a BKB, Teolikor, Blink, Faceboots, almost BKB on Tusk is gonna
be very useful for him not getting feared up by SF, makes it easier for him to save people
with Snowball as well.
And the fact that this Lunar can go for a pretty early Agz and then of course consume it later
on has what, Masked Madness, Agz slots to replace, Trebs can be changed to a Swift Blink, still
tons of scaling left for this Yuma hero. Yeah, he definitely wants to get a refresher. Double
BQB, double ulti is going to be massive. Maybe he wants to go butterfly just to hit that power
spike where oh you don't have true strike on Lee9SF yet, I can have butterfly and suddenly
it's hard for you to fight me. Looks like he's even going more aggressive with the Daedalus idea.
Wow. He just wants to bring the damage. Just roll damage output. A few different ideas. Now
Ultimately, he settles. No doesn't settle he started buying the linkins
Changes mind again. You can see how much these players try to adapt and crack. You know, what's the best thing I can do in situation?
Because you're not buying the item for like right here right now
It's like what do I buy now for the next five minutes. It's all the next item comes. It's got to be the linkins
Most of the way that liquid get back in the game kill him. Yeah, I mean, I guess pain linkins is usually extremely good
sure he can break it by putting in feeble on you or something but then you
don't get in feeble that's a pretty good thing as well the people is insanely
good against carries liquid on the back foot somewhat
need to try and make their presence known on the map trying to play through
mid with the wave shove of ace and likely a smoke once they've cleared the wave
and the trouble is top lane has been pushed all the way into the buildings
with double catapults so Shedaphine has to come back and show.
Ideally that would be Lena defending as well and SF could smoke with the team because he's the insta burst and Lena has to travel so it's much more comfortable if Lena is the one split pushing for them.
We can see Mikkei now going back for the BKB.
Having no save or friendly dispell on your team really can hurt a lot against Viper, Bat, Warlock. There's so many dispellable skills.
You need some kind of Mantle or BKB to deal with them.
Yeah, you definitely do.
With the smoke gang, the crew didn't connect initially, but Silver Edge Luna, she's going to be on our ward.
Seize them all.
Now Whisper tries to jump and Mikkei steps ahead.
And Misha with Tofu, looking for a lineup here.
No info given by Heroic though. They show for a moment, then back into the shadow.
Just an attempted gank, didn't work out, that's fine.
Rinse and repeat playing under the cover of darkness
Scary for liquid out here on the map
Relying very heavily on wards like that a little bit of intel lets them know the maneuver here from heroic is coming in towards middle lane
These double silver I just could bring down Viper surprising effect spurs jumped
He on this BKB pop the clips on the tofu with the lasso back to drag the bane into his dead
Now he's got by back, but we're in a situation where there's still two and a half minutes till Roshan even spawns
This and it's just I don't know breaking their idea. They're going the Batrider and he kills you
This team obviously behind him ready to help him out. Oh, I don't need to blink in on you. I don't need to see you
Yeah, it was very grateful that that felt like tossing in
Yeah, you know like we got him guys
Whisper is the initiator in this game
He's not really a big kill even if you did get him because he's not a damage-stealing
Batrider and I love this choice next coming in refresher. He says you know what? I'm never gonna be a right click path in this game
I'm going to be full utility. I will have double ulties and Agathem after which is gonna be absurd
Then he's gonna actually have major impact
And how does heroic feel heading into late game because we had all this discussion about you know early game magic damage
their tempo, their speed. Is there still this worry that Liquid have outscaling potential?
They have the better carry, right? Yeah, because they have double carry. So their right-click
potential is amazing on side Liquid and they have good teamfight with Ravage. So it's hard to gauge.
I would still probably favor Heroic by the state of the game now, just seeing that, okay, there's
going to be a lot of control coming out from Batrider. Luna is enormous. Golem is still a
a good tool even in late game. And I think Tylong has managed to do more work on Viper
than I expected him to.
They just seized the game differently. Tylong's built different. The fact that Yuma still hasn't
been touched this game. 1208. 500 last hits. Top of the net worth. Top of the pot for Luna.
Liquid. Start to approach the Roche pit. Heroic. Looking to keep all the waves shoved out.
Oxy wants to blink.
Oh, get some feel of the call. Make sure he doesn't get caught.
Very nice.
The shards blink back, baiting the tiny.
But yeah, Liquid have not really had a fight where they are able to use these turrets that we talked so much about.
The double right clicks from far, standing their ground and just delivering that has not happened.
And now with the refresher on Batrider as well, there are a lot of different wrenches being thrown into the machinery.
We're still looking for smoke break, they'll of course same story.
Making sure they can keep tabs on liquid positioning here as both teams are a little blind heading
into this third Roshan.
Aeondiscone boxes complete and assembled, same with Sheevas.
Over untied.
Smoke from Heroic though, they've scanned the high ground and they know Liquid have prepped
over by their own ancients.
You may see me saying someone has to defend mid, it's going to be tight.
It's quite obvious.
As the creeps start de-warding, I think that tipped off Liquid that, okay, they're definitely
on mid.
The creeps suddenly starting to kill Ward that they already ward pasts.
Ace doesn't have to show to clear the wave, stays tucked away in the trees and spams
gush, but that means Yuma pretty comfortable just to move forward and start shredding the
building.
Now some long range poke from Liquid to clear the wave.
The tower still stands at around 500 health.
Catapult wave up top, awkward for Liquid.
They've got to do something.
A heroic really poking here to elicit a reaction.
Someone has to come back and defend.
That's Mikay, so information advantage heroic right now.
Yeah, there's still good words still spotting Tylong
moving into a triangle.
These words from Liquid are really
giving some nice information.
In jungles.
Okay, just steps forward. I thought maybe there'd be a jump but Liquid not gonna bite anything off just yet.
We need to keep our eyes peeled on Nisha in this fight. He has a Daedalus now.
I haven't blinked in the past three minutes, Wagga.
It's very good, Gareth. Keep that up. My eyes are very dry.
Oh, Lillicor gonna get tossed back in. They get away from the eclipse.
Safety for Liquid as Tylong is forced to BKB. Run away.
Deal the cord down, but with Vibeck available, Liquid wanting to make more of this, running
forward towards the Luna, Nisha. Trying to open up, force a fight here, but yours on
the tiny stops the toss back. Life strike misses, so Tylaan could turn alongside Whisper
and Yuma to fight back. A reset from Liquid, Eon Desk Pop though on Tiny, a little unfortunate
for Boxy there. No bling forward just yet. Holding Hygrun as Miky standing, looking for
an ulti with a silverage and Thailand doesn't have BKB. 60 seconds without it.
Terrain being used, oil liquid just to hold the staircases and heroic can't really breach
the ramp. Very difficult to move forward for them, they still want to fight, you can see
that on whisper. Looking for blinking forward. Reading himself for the jump, but the jump
comes first onto him. He owned his BKB again, offering protection though. Steal the core,
and punches Nisha down. The second jump in from Whisper catches the Bane. Eclipse comes down
running Hellfire onto Liquid as Yuma dropping low. Daitamika and Nisha, they didn't deal with the
turrets. Liquid carries Stantool. They lose three, but they're now out of gas.
Hyronic, have the chase, the control, but the damage from Liquid breaks the Batrider's back.
Tylon cannot stand his ground. There's a long death timer for the Batrider.
still moving forward the two top farmed heroes on the gem
they can't go and claim it they kill the curry and he drops the prize
they killed up everything else but Luna started taking some serious damage you
could see the Lena it was very awkward because Lena did by far the most in the
fight but they still lost the fight really hard initially but is it a loss if
Luna has to lick her wounds and start running away and the carries just get
to take a free rose now that's the crazy thing right it's a heroic get 2000
gold from that liquid get like a grand overall by the metrics and the kills
heroic win this fight but strategically liquid come out ahead yeah they lose the
position they had to retreats and that is look at that Lena she's just standing
there laying in the damage Yuma is lucky they stayed alive the night out and
run away that could have been a few more Daedalus crits and he would die
quickly as a close one Yuma stays unkilled now I'm gonna start considering
the next item for this lunar though, you know, do we go butterfly? Do we go more protection? Do we go damage?
You know what? He needs to respect to the other facet. Get the damage reduction going.
Yeah.
Because Tegav, you know, he's been talking about how this is the Moonstorm
facet is old news. The other facet is so good. I agree with him.
I think the other facet is really, really good.
Since he went for Agadamceptor on this game on Yuma, the Moonstorm has paid off. It's been really good.
But he wishes he had the damage reduction right now, so he could actually stand and
and fights against the Lina right click.
I still can't believe how close this game has gone from that opening 10 minutes.
heroic coming back into this making it dead even by the metrics but we are in a
game state where Liquid they've got to jump on a tusk, the toss up and Requiem
finishes the Olicor, Gem claimed up by them as well and they've got Lina ages
for three and a half minutes, cheese, banner and the refresher shot.
There's so many tools for them right now. I think it is a testament to Whispers Batrider
The fact that this game was not over early. Oh, yeah, I just get eclipsed. He pumped fake the eclipse a few times
They run Bane and just waiting. Hello
Lifting the glaives saluting tofu over here Bane over here. I come a little closer. Why don't you?
They didn't have, didn't have True Strike over there, so Glimmer, Cape on Bane, you can't
really ult him unless someone goes in and provides a dust.
Always very useful tool to have against the Lunar Aghanims.
Oh heroic, backs against the wall.
Again in this game, trying to figure out what the next approach from Liquid is.
Jeluna going to slip into the shadows as Boxy and Ash look to reclaim some territory with
a D Ward and the lane pushing into bottom.
Jeluna is trying to go behind, he really wants to fight.
Sea Whisper and Tylong.
Alright boy, there's tier two tower.
There's two gems on the field, you have to be so careful Jeluna.
Two gems on liquid that is.
There's so many ways to get invis as well.
So in your ways to reposition yourselves and now we're looking at Nisha with Satanic arriving
Yeah, Aegis is a panic
BKB and backpack he's gonna have a lot of lives to go through
nine two and eight
Big turret that primary carry for liquid it feels like is coming through this Nisha mid lane Lima whisper
Realizing the push is coming wants to go for a grab
Who does he see? A flamebreaker, Lincoln's pop, whisper. Tries to make the jump, but
the reaction's from Liquid too quick for him to get the grab. They dealt with a banner
of those, so the push is going to be halted. Damn, the high ground defense is not that
shot, you know, it's not too shabby on the side of heroic. And Liquid's, even with the
ages feeling a bit uncomfortable look at their base they have so many creeps
hitting into a tier 4 someone has to defend it's always this constant
pressure they gotta go back and deal with they got weeds in their garden
someone's got to come back and prune it I mean he almost needs to have travel
some SF as well but he's six lauded so kind of difficult to fit more items he's
got a backpack refresh your shard already 16 health left on that tower
wouldn't like to see him get the shard for himself already as the shadow race
applies damage talent and a Daedalus. Sure, it isn't bad getting the cooldown reduction.
Alright, when's the next Tormentor? You can't get one for free.
Yeah, Tormentor's still a while. Can't remember who the last one went to. Oh, it's Tofu. Tofu got it.
Looks like the Aegis is going to peter out. 30 seconds remaining.
liquid looking to make something happen in the enemy ancients for now just a
little incursion here to get some wards down King jungles this is the second time
we see him do this by the way the Wind Waker on warlock quite early I mean
we're 50 minutes into this game but let's just say Glimmer Cape into Wind
Waker is not super usual to see on a lot of heroes but in this game against Bane
fiends grip against some of the initiation and the burst that we have
seen could save for his teammate, there's no nullifier yet.
That's true, he'd been using the ULs as a way to cancel Tiny's blink initiation, right?
Similar to like against Ursa or Axe, he just ULs the guy who jumps, Waxi's tried to blink
Avalanche toss, he blinks, he avalanches, gets Cycler.
So now you can actually ULs your allies rather than the Tiny himself.
Yeah, I think now the job of Tofu becomes very difficult because either Snowball or
Wind Waker could save people from getting fiendscript, so he has to worry about that. He has to worry about the A on disk, on Batrider.
Oh, heroic. Whisper gets tagged up by a few spells and loses his BKB and A on disk. He has refresher, but we'll see how that goes.
They're going to be the ones to smoke up. This could be hard to read for Liquid that they're actually going to make a move immediately after he spent his stuff.
Boxy is in a smoke breaking position though.
Nice spot on the low.
The jump on the shadow fiend, the clips comes in.
Boxy trying to save him.
They've lassoed and got the SF locked up in place.
Heroics, slay the beast.
Nisha on the run now is liquid.
From this high ground, realising they can't play.
They can't play.
Can they, Nisha?
From the tree line trying to hide in the fog.
They've turned for the damage.
Ravage from ace!
Clips off the bat right on the back.
They turn on it.
on it. Surprising heroic just like they done for them. Whispers on the run. Toss forward,
Nisha set in. Dumps on the bat. A triple kill for him. Make it ultra. Nisha pops off.
Nika just sitting back tipping Nisha. He's like, okay, that's fine. You can carry. I
guess I died, but yeah, great read by Nisha. Hides behind a one tree there, like a cartoon
villain. Like surely you're not going to fight this against the liquid. I mean, by backing
into this. Difficult when you don't have Batrider. He's dead for one minute. No buyback. Viper
can. We'll see if he pops it. You're losing a mid lane for sure. Yeah, Micky just chilling
as well. He could buy back into this, but no stress to do so as well. Just let the leaner
push. Eclipse has thrown out there to try and deter their advance. Clear out a wave.
do some damage but it just tickles liquid as the pipe is popped.
So I guess Nisha you're just fan puck and that's it and it's easy.
I think he had a word about that.
Yeah, apparently not so simple.
That's what cats were saying, yeah fan his puck and then what was he doing, playing Lina
for the first time?
Yeah.
First showing this tournament?
Wow.
Dusting off his Lina, yeah, I don't know.
He's glorious.
He doesn't seem too rusty on it.
18 seconds no bat.
Voxy jumps in, fires the crab, onto Teal-a-Core, forces the snowball, but
Ace and Nisha unload the damage, force the BKB as Yuma jumps in aggressively.
Looking for the go on Voxy, but Nisha's damage is substantial! Just unleashes it!
Yuma has to retreat with a defensive BKB and Shadowblade as Liquid led them to regroup!
SF has respawned and made his way over as well. He's like, I'm back guys! Did I miss anything?
Hey, we see of course that initial jump catching Asif was good.
That's so good from Heroic.
Yeah.
I mean that looked like a fantastic fight.
They even get onto the tiny chasing onto the high ground.
They looked like they were in complete disarray, but no.
Nisha makes this insane call to say she's just to fight right here.
It's like surely not like we're surely not.
Yeah.
Underestimating the DPS for him and Ace lands a very nice ravage as well.
Even if King Jungle juke it, what are you gonna do?
We're like without all the dodging ravage. Yeah, but then what you can't cast anything. I've never been so happy to eat my words
Liquid popping off big time. Yeah, Nick is pocket
absolute cinema cinema cinema
glorious stuff
I know heroic down a couple of lanes themselves leveling the playing field liquid making sure that top lane isn't going to be assaulted
Over and over again like it has been the past 20 minutes
I mean, the story as well of Yuma, he is still unkilled in this game, despite everything, despite all the crazy fights we've seen,
53 minutes into the game, he is still putting on the carry performance of a lifetime here, trying to win this game against Liquid, but they are just so damn strong.
I mean, it's so hard now, with his Tide 25 having the extra Ravage stun duration, having Refresher...
I think he needs the Ripe here, he's queued it up already.
I don't know if the swift blink is even gonna happen. We'll see what adaptation he does, but
He has 6.5 K gold could buy out the rapier already
Why is the shard?
Yeah, I mean shard is decent. Let's do a lot of damage
Toss back who's this they look or sent in towards ace and tofu forced to be KB early on
Nisha under the cover of Enviz looking for this wraparound still as you heard them make
the jump, Lincoln's pop, catch on the lean up, loading Nisha up, ace, we tried to hold
on here but broken, nightmare saved, Mickey Requiem's back, heroic, holding the line and
falling back away from Liquid because Nisha bought back, a break on the Viper, difficult
for Toy Lungs to disengage now with no hurricane pike but he has safety from his friends, the
blink toss back not good but the ravage is good aces in finds the opening
tylon kj dead or the driver buys back the grip on Luna
Mickey the requiem unlocked by tofu the first kill of a lunar this game and
mega creeps coming for liquid there's still no buyback on leaner maybe try it
round two that's right does have ulti Luna has buyback ready
They've got one shot, one chance, a buyback on Lunar, liquid, they're on your tier 4s and breaking your base.
Nisha has multiple linquids put on him, the last of the SF, nightmare save, Yuma's in to defeat Miki.
They've taken down the Shadowfiend but a snap buyback, tied under, broken and killed, a double kill for Yuma.
Eclipse thrown in but Thailand's in trouble, Miki buys back and gets the kill.
Yuma now with no ways to slip out of here, hides in the trees,
Silvered from cooldown, tofu with a glimmer, but Yuma is gonna go on a little wander.
He's gonna run away. He wants to fight, but he can't. He's so outnumbered.
Batrider is the only friend in the world right now.
Go and find a cottage and a tree.
Blotail, Whisper, he's pulling out all the stops to bleed, and he'll Batrider.
Try against these shots, but your throne is dying.
Atlas there, and a Batrider tossed around, comes to the floor with a thun.
Yuma, one more champ, one versus four, but liquid, they've got the damage.
knockin' at your door to kill the throne and take Game 1!
Incredible!
And that's insane man, what a game, back and forth the entire way.
21 and 8 is the final score of Yuma as he loses to like,
the last of two!
That was quite the donut game, oh my gosh, I can only hope that Game Number 2 lives up to this height
because it was that back and forth, and if you would've told me half an hour ago
it was going to be a road that wanted I would believe it. I would believe it either way. I believe
it to the very end of the game almost. This was super, super close and a lot to think about for
both teams before getting to game number two, but that gives us some time to attempt kind of to try
and make this game down, make some sense of it all. Yeah, I think the liquid to the landing stage
was like way too good for them. They kind of crushed every single lane. I think the offering for her
kind of faltered a bit. And then look, it kind of made some mistakes. Like 20 minutes
with the first, and this was the second big one. I think that Nisha gets caught top trying to set
up for like a tormentor. And then they're like, okay, you know what, maybe we can fight on this tier
two. They want to do a toss back, but Ravager's cool down. And also there's a flame break that
actually puts the Shaddafing out of the one shot because of the like toss requiem. And then if I
fight was bad and you're like oh no is this GG like look liquid kind of fall
behind but then they start in these team fights where the lean has items the
shatter than those items and you see how much damage these heroes take like
look at the look at the eyeing. Luna nearly died but to me this game is all
about just heroic having to break liquid formation right some of the other
clips we saw here because liquid was you know not in that perfect position
lina getting caught SS may be getting caught the red cream not layering and
heroic was doing a pretty good job at creating the chaos in the fight but
Unfortunately, they weren't able to replicate that every single time and then one or two fights at Liquid weren't just getting their backline jump through just the raw aggression and again, major props to Yuma.
But yeah, Lina and SF into the late game with a Tidehunter to protect you, with Tidehunter just going crazy, it's like you need to play some floorless though though.
There's just a point in the game where it felt you should like hit the peak of his items.
It was like right around there and he just was unvitable.
The heroes would walk in and they would just get like melted by him one by one.
I don't know, I genuinely would thought Liquid lost this game at around like 25 to 30 minute
mark.
I thought the game was getting really awkward and for me a lot of it was because of Yuma.
Like Yuma was sure he lost but he popped off this game.
that was very close to the
scoreline that we praised the
tour for just a series ago.
What we need is better. Do you
know when you have like the
hero lost graphics and the loss
made like an asterisk because
like it's a loss, but for
Luna, it's a win, right?
Because other people will be
looking at this game going.
Oh, Luna's bad. Luna lost again.
Yeah, but Luna, you kind of can
see what it can do. But yeah,
Nina, however, there it is.
16, 3 and 12. I like the
adaptation there from liquid,
of course, when you see Viper
being picked from her at
being picked from her constantly in the mid lane.
Lina, high-range Tyro, you just farm up.
Viper's kind of this clunky hero
that can't really make too many moves on the map.
You have to kind of preemptively think about it,
even by boots of travel.
But Lina, yeah, very, very scary.
If you give him the farm,
she can just become that additional carry in the game.
Especially with SF, sorry,
is going for like the magic builds.
Put physical damage on your mid lane.
It's gonna feel like really nice layering between the two.
You're speaking of layering?
I thought it was inside of a roic.
Kind of the warlock and the Luna combination. Now that that's illegal. Like that's so strong. It's so much teamfight
It's got to me. I just reimagined it's the warlock. Oh
I think so something that yuma does and he did in the past which I liked a lot is he goes to the agg plus the damage facet
Where I think the kind of
Current version people are going to moonshield, which is a damage reduction
But I know everyone's back then the idea was you get agg and I think it gives you like 120 damage something like that with that facet
And we saw him in the fights, he did so much damage, you just press the aggs, you get like one or two kills based on just magic damage
And then the rest of the fight, he just gets all the right click damaging
This is where I think for Liquid at least, I love the early game, right? The early game from both teams was hilarious
Heroic's aggression was often not really working out, Liquid bringing SF to the mid lane, but then for Liquid it goes to the point where
You had the agg to pick up that you were mentioning for Lunar, this is the big reveal and the Viper comes in
And if Liquid didn't dive in this position, again hindsight, wonderful tool.
If they did dive in this position, if they did respect the fact that they are going behind a tier to 20 minutes,
maybe Liquid should just be in a much better position this game.
It wouldn't need to be dragged out as long, but yeah, major praise to Yumu.
I think it was the agonist pick up, taking the correct fight at the perfect time.
If your carry player didn't have this mentality, you are probably conceiving this game.
But the fact that he had damage in his mind the entire game, it really just kept the game going much, much longer than it should have.
Also, so this was the fight that kind of like turned it and gave Heroka a chance, and we're going to show you here, they have like these two really big climes, right?
It's the Crimson on the Viper, and they have the Asks on the Luna, so you have basically kind of like a defensive replacement for that, you know, Moonshield facet and the Crimson Guard from your Viper,
and then you have all this damage from the Luna, just like being able to beat into the...
He killed Shadowfiend and Tiny by himself, which is just an ult.
And then again that because of the facet that damage from those heroes converts into more damage on the rest of the team
So it was a really nice kind of choice. I'm really happy. He went for that
especially I think a lot of the other carries when they see this like double artillery like the
Lena and the shadow thing they're like, oh, I'm gonna take so much damage
I need to get the damage reduction so I can kind of manfight them
But instead his mind was I'll just kill him first and honestly, I liked it
I was always posing the other facet because to me that's where Luna's moving towards but again Yuma showing that moon storm
Can be good in the right hands
And they didn't win the game it's really weird that we're saying good things about the hero that's lost but it really is
I just it's so it's also gonna be a liquid mine surely
Yeah, if I could give a second MVP would be to Yuma even though he did lose
I think that he just kind of like you said it there's like an asteroid. It's like
He popped off. I mean, what if Tuskenback didn't just like roll into the tier one towel like
relentlessly? Yeah, I mean, this could easily be heroic winning the game very cleanly if
they're off lane wasn't, you know, taking so many trips back to you.
Because this game was so close, I mean, we could say a lot of things about the draft
potentially, but it didn't really have any bearing on the game itself. I feel like gameplay
really decided this one. So where do you go with the teams in the break that they have
right now? Where, where, where are you going to adapt?
I mean, for a Heroic, you can say the simple thing, like,
oh, our early game was kind of an issue with laning.
So focus on that,
but it's like hard to say the mid to late game stuff.
Like, genuinely, I feel both teams,
I actually feel like Liquid has more notes
that they would want to put on this game.
I feel like Heroic, you can say,
like, we made some mistakes,
but it's really hard to pinpoint that stuff
in the middle of the series,
but overall they played really good.
Yuma played good.
Trust Yuma to like, be successful in this game
and have a cleaner early game,
but Liquid is more, wow, we had such a good early game,
and we fumbled.
And that's like the scary thing where it's like,
what if we fumble, and then Hurok doesn't fumble back?
Both teams are over-aggressive, right?
One team's over-aggressive in the laning phase,
one team's over-aggressive at 20-minute mark.
So at some point, you're gonna have to find
when do we wanna turn it back slightly, but realistically,
we love watching these teams because of that aggression.
Yeah.
I don't want them to change.
I want them to keep playing like this,
because like, this was probably one of the more
interesting games that we've had so far,
because of how they had to fight,
how they just didn't care about the 10 death bat, right?
It's like, I'm going to go in again.
I don't care.
At some point, it's going to work, right?
So yeah, don't change.
Don't change.
Just, you know, fumble back and forth and then make the game fun.
It's a viewer sport, after all.
It's all about us and our viewer enjoyment
and viewing enjoyment of the series, which
will continue with game two after a break.
There's something.
On me, on me, on me, yes.
I can fly, but no one will be able to.
I'm looking, I can up them with an R
I think we should kite
Can we kite him to the R a little?
I don't have TP guys
He's dead
Stop, stop, stop
Nice
He has an E
That's the snowy one
Okay, okay, okay
He's one of the Shmigas
Nice
Should be a guy near TP
He's shouting guys
I baited it, I baited it, I baited it
I have a G-Zero
I'm gonna make sure my mic is off.
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of three elimination on the
line heroic team liquid and
And Liquid is one game up, and we said, and we still stand by it, that the game, draft
related, not so much, the result of it.
But we are going to go back to a draft of game number two very soon, so I do want to
bring up that topic to see if anything would change, because yes, Liquid won, but I think
they also got a little bit of taste of the whisper bat rider.
And I wonder if we're going to have a similar situation, Tiga, would you let him have it
again if you were Liquid?
If he doesn't improve his landing from the last one, I would be like, please, Wistful.
Surely he will!
They tasted pretty good at the late game, so maybe you go for round two.
Of course, you have to try and pick what you give away.
I think Liquid's band was really quite fun, trying to take away Shaman and Ursa, giving
away some of their first pick priority, but it simplified the later picks in the draft.
Theodokorm has been an absolute menace throughout this entire tournament on his shaman, so a
lot of respect was put in his name.
the tusk you could argue he looked a bit shaky right there's some snowballs where he was like
snowballing and like you never want a snowball to go further than where you've cast it like when
you're like running away with it you know that you've already kind of messed up right and I think
Fiora could just didn't look as good on this hero so putting them on different areas is really
helping liquid a lot so short whispers comfortable but Fiora could not be uncomfortable that's
actually quite a good little one condition I think my biggest take on trapping at least is the
the Largo. So their first pick on Heroic Glass Game, and they have to ban their own Largo,
which is not... I don't... it's like another team that's kind of been doing that.
The funny fact is that in Dream League, that was a smooth...
Good coaching there.
Yeah, good coaching. In Dream League, it was liquid that banned Largo both ways.
Okay.
But that's the only team that I can think of.
They also, during the tournament before that, they tried playing Largo a couple of times,
They didn't really hit the rim on it like they were good at it, but they didn't so
Like they were perfect for that.
I was thinking they have, they had one game before this tournament, which was a win, and
then one game during this tournament so far, which was a loss, so they have 50% win rate.
And I don't know, I genuinely think that they either have to be able to beat it on second
pick, which is like, bad, or they have to be able to pick it, because otherwise the drafting
just gets way too awkward.
Like we had to do so many computations for like, oh, they have to leave this heroine
in this heroine. And it's made a bit easier by being second pick.
Their second pick, so now it's a normal ban. That's what I was worried about, it feels
like a run back of the first draft order, but now it's not a bad thing.
And for Liquid, banning out Shaman again in the first phase. They did do this against
Yandex, at least in one of the games they did ban out the Shaman, but in Saksa, incredibly
good on the hero. Same thing here for Fioliko.
Also they've shown that they flex Fioliko's lane when he's playing the Shadow Shaman.
Like he's gone into the safe lane, which frees up KJ to play random chens in the off lane, or Chikiro's like he's really strong laners.
So I think it's also pretty good for Sliquid.
And then we see the instant puck ban, which is just kind of somewhat of a shadow shaman and a huskar.
Like you ban these two good heroes against puck.
So in the interview from Caff, like I've learned against Sliquid, you ban puck.
Like when they have pick 18 in the draft, that is the puck position, so you either ban it in your first phase,
or your second phase if you're heroic but yeah just don't give liquid this hero
now and because you only have that one ban on second pick you don't want to
have to worry about the puck so they ban it out the banners shadow fiend out as well
one more ban what is it there's bat one more with bat this tree there's there's a tree in
and the officer missing bat tree i mean if you want to say ta a beast master or something i don't
know if you would first there was wind ranger from the uh the previous yeah
There's plenty of heroes.
They leave it all in the pool.
Maybe Ban Tree.
I'll ban Ember here.
Oh nice.
On the same wavelength as Heroic.
Because you don't want to pick it on 16-17 and they'd want to pick it on 18.
So it's like you're both Puck and Ember doing the same role.
Yeah, you're basically like pre-banning for the second phase.
We always speak to great lengths like the amount of heroes that you can first pick and
at some point you have to accept.
not banning them all, it's probably better to give more.
I think that's come to a conclusion in modern day Dota,
giving more and more meta heroes is very good.
So I love investment bands.
I praise Liquid for the Arts of Shaman.
And now Heroic began to mention the Ember,
then there's the part like it's very, very good bands
when you're in this pick order.
So it was, right now I just,
there's so many good offline's.
There's like Batrider.
We've seen Timber as a tree in response.
Mars, Beastmaster.
I think any of these, for me, when I think of Whisper,
timbers all like standing at the most out of all those sure the bat too but
actually the vibe would change it up or not no no vibe no it's just you want a hot streak and then
i mean that's just that's fire fire beach tree um that's how that works elemental wise that's
pretty good for heroic i think that also there's a lot of 13 picks that are still in the pool
that are good with Batrider. The clockwork is good. They picked Tusk, I think that's also good.
Just these like melee heroes that kind of body, which are also generally I think the melee heroes
are good versus Tree as well because you can pull the wave somewhat easily versus him and then also
when he like all in commits you kind of can all in back him like with the Tusk for example.
Like when Tree goes to hit you, you press tag team, you press ice shards, he can't walk through the
the ice shards and then you guys that's why I personally really like clock clock is gonna
we don't see it too often but like you press cogs the one you just smash it into the tree
do you really that was immortal faith was actually the first person I've seen do that
sure I'm sure other people have done it but it was actually really cool he like would
you cut everything or treat the cause because you can also hit them yeah it was really cool
and then on top of that you mentioned shard three come up for it cogs same thing battery
Assault tree now count anywhere. Yeah, and you're flared to check for
The eventful true sight flare, so which is very good. Really selling me this clock here. Yep
Yep, no, I love true sight
Yep, the clock is very good in the previous game
Heroic when they have their hands on the bat rider the Vena the oracle to prevent liquid from saving with that
The chances that there's an oracles of course a lot lower now that there's a tree into a ready on the set of liquid
Is the tree in and of itself enough to count as a save against the bat rider?
Or would you like to still have something else?
It's not a save in the sense that the guy who's gonna get the last load is being saved. It's a save in the sense that
Hopefully your tree is gonna like blink in a present overgrowth and limit the damage it takes
I think that's like the main idea
But I don't think you want to like double down on save supports
The only one that I think would be acceptable at the tree is the Shattered even yes, maybe the maybe
maybe the Tusk, yeah ringmaster, it's like the fake saves that have damage. So like Shatterdemon,
you have the ult and you have the W which both provide a lot of damage. Ringmaster you
have a teamfight ult and then you have your E or it's like both damage. Where's your
weapon, Oracle, it's like alright man go pressure purifying flames like I don't know, it's just
like two low damage heroes just doesn't feel good.
Yeah, I'd argue even the ban of Oracle in the last game was maybe a bit too play-offs reactionary rather than a good ban in general.
I don't think like Spirit or Tundra or those type of drafting teams would have used the ban on it.
Ban aside, against Backrider, having vision is important, and if you aren't going to have support set by saves,
just at least have a Lotus buying off Flaynor, or at least cores that may entertain Linkens in the future.
You can't have a draft with no save, no lotus, no lincoln's, it kind of gives Batrider complete freedom.
K-drake Chen. I think it's good you can even lay down with the Batrider in the off lane.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's a Warlock available in KG, only plays Warlock.
Let him get it, he has this.
It'll be his 8th Warlock game.
He's going to go with the jikiro.
Just as I predicted, definitely wasn't going to say Chen. Once again it would be myself.
That's right, but another liquid fire here over is the tree and so really like doubling down trying to burn him down
So that was a weird that was a weird update with the blue master. Yeah, that's right
The only way to ignite is
You had a big fire damage. Thank God that I didn't move in that direction
Imagine if that was just like everything had an element. That'd be so bad
Hello new player would you like to play this beautiful game of the order of 50 different elements? Yeah, okay
It'll also be that they'd concoct some new element as well, and you have to deal with like the void element
Yeah
This only works at night time and on even minute marks
That'll be fun
For maybe a day
All right, so we got the weaver coming out weaver tree solid lane. I get them five. This is a boxy weaver. Oh
How come I don't know it feels like weird to pick your weaver here already
But that works when you pick, like, oh wait, Tiny's already banned, but if you pick the
Tiny, because then you can double flex the weave of the Tiny, kind of, everything goes
around in different places.
Yeah, I just, I don't know, just pick your...
I like the idea of weave of support just for the fact of Twinge into bug by early Vessel,
and you're just killing the back rider.
I don't know, just pick like Morse or something.
All right, no, it's just guaranteed.
No support then.
I don't know, they reveal a lot here.
Yeah, it shows their full support duo, it shows their carry.
This also gives Herok the opportunity to flex the bat to mid.
Liquid's taking this gamble because they have 18.
So it's like if you commit the bat to mid, you pick an off in the reverse weaver,
they can instantly counter pick.
But let's not forget though that you pick weaver, you want to flex the bat.
Let's say they are.
Now you have to reveal humans here in this position
if you are going to try and flex the bat like this.
Exactly.
Or you have to reveal.
So I think the weaver is just more of a,
you're not utilizing second pick guys.
Like you have to show something right now because of this weaver.
What about the position forward faces forward?
Vici gaming may be out, but that's where it is here. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Dylation. Anytime you see skirmishing here, dilation rules look good.
They got one more pick. It could be the pause forward. Yeah.
It's good with our stuff. Lower is the cooldown. I believe. Okay.
Okay. Well, outside of your belief, they have ways to not really care about overgrowth.
And they have explosive pick-off damage, Batrider plus Ursa, double jump, you see Weaver with Lasso, maybe you know Basher situation on the Ursa, you are going to be able to kill him off.
But if you don't kill him off any time left, things can get awkward.
Would you like to lock in a mid because you feel like Tylong's going to otherwise get banned out?
No, no, you take your support.
He is Viper is still pooling, just point it out.
I think it's weird when you end up having to guarantee 24 pick your core, unless they put the bats up for which I don't think this is a good idea.
idea. I think it's really easy to just pick like a Skywrath mage here, which forces the weaver to
go like Manta or Lincoln or BKB relatively early. Or Beastmaster. Okay, so they do pick them up.
T'Gal, they picked a mid. You like Tylong, Beastmaster. I do like Tylong, Beastmaster. It's very,
very good. One of the best hero play combinations. I'm just always scared that that rider's going to
go mid and then my hype for this player in Hero Combo doesn't exist. But if it is Tylong in the
the mid-lane, my god this guy can play Beastmaster, he's won once at Valahia, he dominated Tundra at
some slam and then he never got the hero again because Herox just forgot to pick it. Yeah and then
they've got Roramina yesterday, surely Whisper Bat, if you're gonna have Tylong Beast and Whisper
Bat and you're gonna actually swap them around, it just sounds crazy, it sounds ludicrous, that will
be mad. But this way Heroic they line up, it's one of those very disciplined games of our heroes
with items, do not care about Weaver in the later as the game progresses. So play very clear,
discipline, dota, shove your waves, get your items, when you want to make a smoke move,
make sure the correct heroes are inside that smoke, get the kill, don't allow, you know,
Weaver and Hoodwink to get in and out of the fight, break up your positioning.
Heroic, if they can play their game, they are going to be in a good position,
but now they should get some storms for it in a awkward pick-off style game, because Heroic's
pick off his big single target spells on one guy that doesn't really bode well
against storm because of course he can zip in and out play the limits of his
fight kind of bait you to initiate on him very good storm game but also I think
I was gonna be very happy with that general line-up they just need to find
a support solution to the storm and do we keep in mind the bat swap oh they're
batting out nutstalker because they think maybe bat could be position four yeah
And then you find like a whisper off lane that's like that's a really cool band actually
I think that soccer is a hero you always want to talk about against pucks and storms
But because no one's picking it
You don't want to talk about it because you just sound like a madman, but fair play to liquid. That's a
It's a good man interweaver as well
It means that they're not really worried about any of the position force that are still in the pool and rather make sure
That their cores are gonna have a good game just in case
Yeah, just for the sake of the show. No respect to Fiora Loco, Liquid. Do not care about that!
They do not care what he plays!
The support that you give you is good for Heroic, is Lion, on 24.
Yeah, Simple Hicks, they're very, very good. It's basically the Shower Shower Replacement.
You're first for the Storm, you're first for the Weaver.
And then Liquid, I think, with this Mars ban, you're kind of identifying that they need Team Fight.
Some type of control or save Centaur is also good versus the Beastmaster Roar.
But you're playing against an Ursa.
Everyone's playing against an Ursa, not if you come in.
I mean, you're playing into Centaur, but I'm leaning maybe even like, no control but Bristle,
just for the itemization-wise of Lotus.
You plus Hoodwink can actually play into the Ursa lane.
You kind of walk forward throughout the entire game,
and then your positioning enables everyone to have people,
But the problem there is no stun and Gano, you're mentioning stuns, it would help Liquid a little bit, having one more.
So you said Centaur, right?
Yeah, the Centaur looked good. I think the Ag skills really well into the Beastmaster.
The only other option I can think of is something that maybe would buy like a Eul's, could be okay.
You maybe Lotus, I think Lotus is just like the big ticket item, yeah it's so good this game.
If Beast and Bat can't clean the initiate, they just have to wait for Lotus to expire.
So I'm looking at just any here that can buy Lotus, but also play into the Ursuline.
Luckily, Hoodwink is quite aggressive.
Five seconds remaining.
It kind of fixes like, it's not going to be Ursumus melee, Ursus auto wins.
There is a bit of nuance to it.
to Kira plus Ursa. Equally as scary, but...
What if you're gonna play... Not Brutal, right? There's no way to play this.
Okay, that's a Brutal.
Of course, Brutal.
Not at least heroic with...
With what?
Don't say...
Useless void, odds four.
I mean, it is a really good game for it.
Dilation goes crazy.
I was waiting for you to say she was ancient oppression.
I was like, please don't tell us.
No, no, no, no, me sorry here. No, no fanstaking you're good. That is a zero percent
Is the longer an option? Oh no the line is still perfectly fine and probably like that's a more realistic pick
But I think the spiciness of the void it works really well with the entire draft like all the cores
Yeah, they utilize the time zone that well and time dilation is really good versus the entire team of liquid
About the bang that's kind of hmm not that exciting. No, oh and it's a jacquero for
Yeah, they're cool doesn't like to play that but using 24 picks for a five-position and do you think do you think Bane is a high dopamine hero?
No, no
You like half your game is like I hope I don't get caught before I use fiends grip
And then you press fiends grip and then Nisha's like you must die zip that you know, it's like it's gonna be okay
They're in the last game. There were some like good moments
I remember top is run like toppling and there's a Bane like sets up and then the Nisha Lena tipis in on the wave
He's got a free kill on the nightmare there's a very big playstyle
I want to say one of the best used to be Moposhka
He'd just be alone for like 80% of the game
But he's always like well
There's a guy nightmare here and then some guy boots to travels in or some guy was like farming the mat claps the camps close
So I wrote to have plenty of pick-off and single target like initiation and at some point you will argue weaver with a Lincoln's
Was that niche it was maybe a Lincoln's
with a Lotus that could overwhelm them.
But if a hero can play it nicely,
like finding their limits,
they have the tools to win the game.
Well, I'm sure that there's a guy
that doesn't want them to have the tools to win the game.
And that is Coach Blitz from Team Liquid
who's standing by with slacks.
Absolutely, yep.
We are here with Coach Blitz.
Blitz, an honor and a pleasure to have you here.
Once again, I know you're able to decline these interviews
and you choose not to every single time
and it's so good to have you.
So let's talk first about the mid-matchup.
You got the newest coming up of age man, Mr. Ty Lung, 16 year old Stuna versus Nisha, who I believe rated him as best other mid in the series or event.
What are your thoughts on that line up there?
I mean, I think Ty Lung is very talented, but primarily, you know, most of his experiences from pubs and, you know, whatever pubs couldn't teach him, Nisha will.
Damn. All right. All right. That is the daddy is coming off. Very good to hear.
Okay, I want to talk to you a little bit about the control that they have in this one
You guys have some you know very
Oh widely little heroes weaver has been traditionally on the panel T governor said you'd rather die
Then see people pick up weaver and now we're seeing weaver over and over again as we get later in this tournament
Is this hero good? Do they have too many stunts T for you?
Are you afraid did T actually say that or am I about to just shoot him for no reason?
No, T said that and he said bring it up in the interview. Okay, I mean, I think that's I don't think he said that
But so then I'm not gonna say but he did though, okay
Don't say anything of this. Yeah, he did. Okay, so I mean I guess fuck to you then like I
Just saw yato rolling with this year old like yeah, so I think it's a good hero. Yeah. Yeah, I think it'll be chill
Okay, okay, but don't they have a lot of control for you guys. We're talking Bay
We're talking to Kiro B smash Aurora of course
I'm sure your team doesn't know what loader low to sword does so do you think that that might be an issue in this draft?
You think we don't know what Lotus Orb does?
I think we do know what... I think Bersal's probably going to rush a Lotus Orb.
I feel kind of confident about that.
Did you talk to him about what it does before the game?
No, because I think he has an idea of what it does.
I would be surprised if he didn't...
If he doesn't buy Lotus Orb, what are you going to do?
I mean, if he doesn't buy Lotus Orb, we can both get Butt naked
and you can just kick me in the butt repeatedly on stream live and I'll just take it.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have something to look forward to.
Alright, game two.
Let's see if we're going to get naked by friends as we head into the game.
Collapsing all in bed, naked blades, another classic slacks interview to add to the archive.
There you go, ladies and gentlemen, as we head into game two, best of three, lower bracket.
Heroic taking on a liquid haywaga.
Games are getting more and more crazy and the interviews are getting more and more unhinged.
As we proceed later into the tournaments here, Slax is ramping it up as well as the players.
Devolving Entity Generacy, as there is no Lotus Orb queued up for Ace yet.
Oh, that's dangerous. That quick buy.
Vince is sweating bullets looking at Ace right now.
Please, he knows what it does, right?
We'll check in with him later.
I mean, it's a half-decent Lotus Orb game, I would say,
with, I guess, Batrider, Beast and Bane.
Also dispelling off any of the Jikiro DPS.
triple B threat. There it is. Submit lane. Nisha against Tylong Blitz saying that you know Tylong
love experience from pubs but Nisha is going to teach him everything he can't learn from pubs.
All that pro player tricks as Nisha has this storm spirit. Yeah, this is a comfortable matchup as
well for storm. You can easily push the lane even though there's really good lasted potential for
Beastmaster. You spell farm so hard on storm spirits. He's already dealing a lot of damage to him as
well as Beastmaster has to go of course.
Yeah, just outspamming, trying to chip away at the boards to kill them off.
As we saw early days there, King Jungles made a move into that mid lane to place an Observer
Ward.
I was pretty sure he got spotted, and there was a flurry of pings, but so far that Dire
Observer has stayed up.
Yeah, I think maybe he'll pick up a Sentry at some point.
Yeah, I also think if they saw it, they did check earlier.
Down at bottom, Mikkei on the Weaver.
A good hero, according to Blitz. Watching Yathrow win with it, he has definitely shifted
up in priority, especially into lanes and heroes like Bat and Beastmaster.
Yeah, I think it's mostly adaptation, seeing Batrider first face pick almost every single
series. This hero does tend to slip through the bans. Oh, he's like very aggressive, might
be in trouble against Ace. Yeah, plays forward onto this Bristleback,
who stacks up the Quill sprays, Acorn shot thrown out, he's got a fairy fire on Ursa,
Ace can't go for the finishing blow, but now the Bear's basically been butted out of lane.
Difficult for him to stand. I've talked about this matchup many times before, how it's very volatile.
I thought they would go for the Warlock. I believe he was unbanned throughout the entire pickpaste.
Taylor called dying to Mickey.
And one of these core, well, carry heroes that is very good at making that support duel a little unbalanced.
Foxy getting run out by Yuma.
A few fury swipes here, but living on is there.
Yeah, he's gonna be completely fine.
Yeah, we were of course hyper-aggressive, both side lanes showing aggression already.
But yeah, I thought we would see the Warlock come out for more sustainability.
You know, protecting Yuma has been the play, they've played the Warlock Earths so many times before in the tournament.
But in the end it's gonna be a little bit of a trickier lane, he hops in for a career snipe.
And there's a lot of laning items there.
Tangoes and Blood Grenade would be very useful for Boxy to stay it out.
As KJ goes for the nightmare sleepwalk to try and steal the Lotus, but the hoodwing comes in to grab it anyway
Pretty costly to throw out the nightmare to try. I mean obviously it's nice if you get the healing lotus, but that's mana gone
M'kay, six stacks of napalm on him, spends the wand, holds the fairy fire
Has gonna take some more damage over time from the dual breath, but he's under tower and safe while Tofu gives the clicks onto Whisper
I want to try and turn it around but too much HP on the Batrider, Weaver's gonna have to
chill for now.
Yeah, well thanks to that living armor.
At least Tofu is pulling the creeps for him, pulling them onto the range creep, trying
to make that wave push under tower eventually.
And also healing, some auto attacks.
It won't take a lot of damage here though.
This is stacking up on Tofu to get Delacour a kill.
Yeah, a lot of magic sick charges going the way of Mikido at least, so he is gonna get
his HP back using that and it's better if Trion protector dies than your weaver going
down. That's for sure. Mid lane pretty much dead even. Beastmaster has three additional
denies and he's gonna add another one there with the water rune also. Lift dive up top
chasing after Yuma, just doing a lot of damage to him. Don't have boots yet on Bristol though
so he's getting outrun. Turning his attention to king jungles. Boxy, acorn shot, bushwhack
but doesn't really connect on the Bane.
I'm totally making this classic move that we keep talking about,
how you die on the support and then just look towards going to the other lane,
trying to set up a Numa.
And Ace has a couple of mangoes here to pop back that mana pool.
Would like to get the coolspray started now so they can have that lead in to the attempt on Numa.
Yeah, full HP is hard to go through.
They still haven't seen Tree and Protector anyway,
so I think they realize they might be ganking.
They know something's amiss.
Also the fact that Storm is off the map, Shakiro is going to track back into that bottom jungle
to see Nisha farming through the little frogs.
It's our experience my friend, yes, keep farming, Shakiro will join, join in the farm.
Get some damage on the Storm, Nisha wants to stick around here and finish the camp with
the living armor on him but Tealacore offering enough damage to shove Nisha back.
Korea's Sniper as well!
Can't delay the gloves and he's gonna steal up all these four creeps. A lot of Crokers going his way. Thank you very much
This little move may seem insignificant, but it's really nice to shut down the Storm's level six timing
He would have been level six, I think just barely or maybe not, but that
The par spike is so important. Especially giving a lot of impetus to your Beastmaster now
Oh, make sure that a bottom lane pops that one for the damage from Whisper.
Enough to sustain the chase as he heals himself back up and goes on to boxy over the trees,
raindrops and the lotuses, all the tickles of heals there from Whisper keeping him alive.
Mid tower's being seeded up as well as Storm can't really defend it.
This is a very early tower falling.
Yeah, playing through Tylong, level six beast master.
I always see the praises of this Thailand beast
Knowing how important the Agadam set of timing is as well any additional influx of gold vitally important for him
And this is well in time for torment or for wisdom place as well 40 seconds for the rune
For the wisdom rune coming in Beastmaster gonna take the DD rune before then
So does Liquid bring five up top to defend?
I don't think they can storm tepid mid so you would have to start walking over. I guess he is joining in
They're migrating to the left
Window shifting here
Courier flies over get sniped out by KJ
10 seconds for shrine to pop up and emerge
And so on the right hand side whisper looks like he's got free time to stack camps and take his well ace is being looked at by four heroic heroes
If you're a sweat start, try along with this DD rune, what's a roar on the storm,
Nisha caught up, the damage is done, Ace now falling flat as Tylong comes in
and swoops onto Liquid to get three kills in a row, tofu the third.
Weavers arrived though, wanting a turn. Hello Mikkei and then goodbye, Yuma with a double kill.
He's level 5, he's got a team life incoming, Boxy falls a double double for Heroic.
You gotta respect the Yuma buff, alright?
Wisdom rune is his spot to fight.
He stands tall with his Ursa.
Every game we see him, always on that 7 minute rune.
Whispers can get jumped by the storm bottom.
A little bit too low HP, so he gets punished at least.
But a full wipe.
I did not think they wanted to contest that anymore.
But they commit for the Tormentor fight,
and ultimately, even though Bristleback was strong,
he does fall eventually.
Yeah, everyone on Heroic basically getting a free level.
Tons of gold going into their pockets.
And just a good catch onto the storm. If they didn't get the storm immediately there, that fight could have been possible for Liquid,
but he got roared up them from there. It was just easy kill.
It could have easily been a roar on A's here, right?
But Pylon waits by these time for the roar on A's here, and he tried to bull-lighting out of it,
but far too quick from heroic.
You see how heroic are so on the same page though. The roar came and literally all of them just laid DPS immediately in turn.
Man, it was so close. And poor Micky, Brunson gets one kill, sure, but then dies in three hits from Ursa.
And this is just an all-bout the heroic early game even more.
And I mare onto the ace, bristleback now with Tylon TPing top, another roar.
The human's damage stacking up, a cool sprays. Irritating, but it looks like they've got the damage to kill him, although ace brings down Tylon first.
Yeah, you're so happy about that if you're ace people going top you get roared space for your team
And you still get the kill on the beast master so ace
He's gonna be completely fine with this and I think blitz is sighing of relief because looking at the quick buy over on
This boy does team to be buying a certain item. That's good
Lotus all very handy in this game
Tofu
I'm just taking down to half health by the Chikiro and Steal the Core.
So this is my home, I inhabit the middle lane, it's my golden experience, not yours.
Yeah, strong presence on the lane.
Liquid are trying to take control of the top part of the map again.
Even with that,
not a massive difference in net worth, the Radiant Core is all still doing pretty well for themselves.
It's just the Radiant supports, right? Having that lack of experience, lack of gold,
We're really gonna start struggling as a trained and will a hoodwink.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
And we already have the mana boots coming out over on the T'Kiril, so you can keep that tempo up.
Always nice when you have Vayne in your team as well to give them some mana.
Ice path.
Ooh.
Preemptively placed.
There's no grip yet, though.
And Nishagun is zipping over on the field of core.
Tylong has raw.
Doesn't come to fight, and you're right.
He saved the shield wall.
Yeah, he saved him with the Ash Legion Shield.
Man, that's so good.
He thought he had the last hit, so he started turning around there,
and by the time he realized he didn't get it,
again, sort of reminiscent of a Crimson Guard save on the previous game.
Yeah, Y Viper.
Exactly.
They will safeguard the stacks for themselves, though.
Giving him a show of the boost to his bank account,
while Whisper does a similar job on his own to that far right-hand side.
A way more straightforward Batrider game for Whisper this time around.
Yeah, definitely. He got the laning stage they wanted, he's doing completely fine.
I mean, he even found the one solo kill onto Weaver as Batrider, and that's just a testament to his skill.
I mean, Mickey Weaver, he definitely knows his limits really well, and yet Whisper found him.
That's just so difficult to do.
Weaver does get this. Free lane bottom for now, though.
able to push wave, dip into jungle, get an additional bit of efficiency going.
Yeah, he needs to have any bits he can get because it will be hard to keep pace with
the Ursa once the battlefield comes in.
Yuma has shown time and time again.
If he gets a good start on Ursa, he will snowball that into more and more.
And we're sitting at 3-0 and 3 for Ursa so far.
Fantastic start.
What do you reckon the timing on that Roshan is this day?
Wait, is it minute 12? Are we gonna hit the bingo?
I feel like it's gonna be a 14-20.
It's the timing.
We're not gonna go faster and faster. It's liquid after all, right?
Liquid is a damn strong team, not that easy to dominate, but yeah, Heroic, they have been
throughout the tournament taking Roche faster and faster. It feels like the 17, 16, 15, 14.
And then speeding up, ramping up.
Misha gonna poke at Tylong in his middle lane looking for a reaction out of heroic.
He comes in slowly and surely, roar lined up, overgrowth binds him.
He doesn't shut the ulti as Beastmaster and just dies.
As Whisper, he's coming in as well looking to turn the tide of this fight for the living armor and the healing.
Misha stays alive, the ball lighting, not enough to keep him invulnerable through the damage over time.
A little bit hesitation on throwing the ulti there but ultimately it doesn't matter.
Liquid already diving with so many heroes and for now heroic do not want to take a massive fight
Versa just wants to get his battle fury does not want to join for this mid fight
They were pretty low resources, I think on Jekiro as well start of the fight
And the game is scaling for you ma as long as they can defend these side lane tier ones keep the map as wide as possible
For heroic they're pretty happy to defend their jungles
Yeah, both teams are just stacking up ancients trying to get as much farm as possible out of this
Yeah, there we go, we can see a double stacking, very nice efficiency going on all over the
place.
Yeah, the difference being, Beast and Bat already here to clear the stacks, Liquid not
quite in position to immediately snap and bring them down, so there is that threat,
heroic, if they move quickly enough could come and contest them.
Yeah, we might see Bristol go over and clear it, but you have to be right there, if there's
ever a teamfight top before the stacks are cleared that would be very disastrous for
Liquid so we see Ace making his way over this is enough gold to finish up his Lotus Orb
as well once he kills all this.
And then Beastmaster we're 14 minutes in now he must be closing in on the Aghanim Scepter
important timing for him to hit kind of similar to the Ursa battle fury in that it can allow
you to fight and get involved but for the most part it is that filing for the next few
minutes to get into your blink, BKB on Beastmaster.
Yeah.
You do have a smoke coming in with the Batrider though.
They have Fiendscript and Lasso available.
I was 14 minutes in Waga.
Actually, does he have Lasso available?
I thought he was holding a skill point, but then I forgot he has five points in the sticky
napons.
No, no Lasso.
No Lasso though.
Hasn't even skilled it.
I'm sure there's Roshan time.
At 1420 was my prediction.
Back on it!
It's uh, exactly when they went.
They must have hurt me over there in the player area.
Master Darmus, you've written a book about it.
They were just waiting for me, so my prediction gets right.
So Bane is front-lining here, smoked and trying to give vision.
Break any kind of initiation from Liquid, but the thing is, Roshan's already died.
Storm zips in, finds the opening on Bane.
Icepath disengaged, heroic, happy to give up a POS5 here as long as they came in.
Got the Aegis and fully evacuate.
Yeah, they're gonna dip out of the area, they have their farming tools ready right now.
Obviously, the battlefier in the Aghanims on Beastmaster, we talk a lot about how it ramps up the farm.
I would even make a case that the boots of bearing on Batrider is essentially a farm accelerating item as well for their attack speed.
Like, it's more than that, it's the HP region.
It allows you to play in a different way when you're farming,
because before you have boots of bearing, you basically drop low HP by farming jungle, you keep getting auto-attacked.
And now he doesn't really bother with that. His HP regen doesn't break, so he can keep farming and stay on the map.
So it's not crazy like a battle fury, but it does still accelerate him.
Still dead even in the net worth though.
Now Liquid have done a good job keeping up in that farm, right?
Yeah, with the early Lotus Orb ready before any big team fights, it's gonna be a little bit tricky for Heroic how to take the fights into it.
Yeah, you see that slacks? Lotus Orb on Bristleback. He knows what it does.
Maybe yes, no clue. He's just biasing Flix's, hopefully our best. It's a passive, right?
He's using my Spengen's next. That's basically two Lotus Orbs.
I guess all the defensive tools.
The Liquid wanting to crack open this top left corner.
You've seen that fast Roshan and they know that spiral can happen where Heroic go from objective to objective.
It's already looking to unlock the tormentor in that top left corner.
I feel the core, I thought someone was lurking.
Tollfoo with a good positioning to smoke break.
It doesn't get scouted.
They popped the dust, but he runs away to safety. Got to be completely fine.
For now, farm is the name of the game.
A bit of push and pull. Liquid shot, top heroic.
Turn up to try and force them away from the area, but quickly going through the twin gators
weaver to farm bottom.
Okay, at this stage of the game, it may seem like it's literally just farming, but yeah,
the observer is pointing out, there's triple Lincoln's going on right now, they're building
towards a massive power spike on Liquid right now, they're gonna, you know, rename themselves
to Team Lincoln's, they're gonna go together, and once they do, it's gonna be very hard
for a heroic teamfight into triple.
It's this item that one of them, yeah, you can kinda track it and keep count, like, oh, how long cooldown is it? We triggered it.
Three?
When there's three, they're gonna be passing them on to each other, you're not gonna be able to keep track of which one it is.
You hear the noise of Lincoln's, like, which one did we break again? It's so much more difficult.
Three Lincoln's Jeremy, that's insane!
Well, Mecha's getting very close to it.
Oh my god, running down this bottom lane.
I would love to get some utilization out of his Aegis as well, but King Jungle's a step very far forward.
Met with stiff resistance already. Nightmare saves himself up as a roar from Tylong, catches Nicheflin.
Overgrowth for Totu. They can't get onto the Storm Spirit, a turn from Liquid's too strong.
Heroic! They're going to try and bang the drum of Tylong, stand his ground, deliver on Bristol back.
Essence Ring heals him up as Yuma goes deep on the boxy, but Liquid disengaged.
Ace, left alone and slain.
Heroic do get a core kill, but it looked risky.
Yeah, Tofu might still get caught here as well.
Trying to get safety.
Yuma cutting behind should be able to find the tree and protect her.
A dominating arse.
Another swift move from Heroic.
It looked like a really good hold from Liquid,
but they didn't quite have enough.
Yeah, I mean, ultimately you're fighting into the ages of the Beastmaster,
so even though the fight started out pretty well,
They can't commit for the Beastmaster kill because he would just come back and turn the fight around
So they have to cancel out dip out and retreat very nice saved by Tofu though that last second overgrowth
That rider was millimeters away from lassoing the storm and he would have died super close
Well the remaining moments of that ages they're gonna fight they get a tier one and now her oak with his gem
The gem
So you may do so try and control the map, but he's walked into Nisha and Boxy,
are us dealing with them though. Protecting King Jungles as Nisha gets the kill and the courier
grabs the gem. Protecting gem, bringing it back home, Nisha. Here you go. Push back from
Boxy, he's going to keep the jikiro at bay, but look at Tylon, another roar straight into the
hoodwink now. Plenty of damage to dish in. Kill off the hoodwink as Nisha, utilizing his entire
A manapool bat, a poking heroic, and make sure they stop their advance.
Still fighting in the area, trying to hold strong.
Weaver is split pushing, not joining for this fight. Lincoln is coming out for him.
That's what Lincoln's done.
On a knife's edge though, isn't it? Liquid are playing to their strengths, but it's a tightrope act.
So, quell, Heroic's aggression while holding onto areas of the map yourself.
But they've prepared really well. They set up the ice in the forest taking over torment area
Heroic they are strong right now, but not gonna be able to shove liquid away and that doesn't mean tormenter looks like it's going liquids way
Minus armor from the swarm along with bristle back is gonna take it down really really fast
So bristle has pre-bought his shard
Are they trying to give the shard to someone in particular?
Oh.
Cause weaver wants to buy one as well, it's gonna go to Nisha.
Oh I see.
Already shard over on the storm, that's really nice.
Cause what Trin has bought his?
So it's like a hoodwing core storm, right?
It's not so much to pass it, it's more that it's just an insanely good shard.
The whistleback shard is one of the best ones in the game as well.
It's really good for fighting.
It gives you farm rate as well.
as well. It's not even expensive and against this lineup it can be used to
try and link cancel.
Whisper, Lincoln's pop on the weaver, ace of the Lotus Orb on him, who's being
eyed up here by a ton of spells out of heroic. Out in no man's land as he paired
up with Mickey to try and do something. Still hanging around in the area, they
could wanna fight. And ping Tylong. They think better of it, I think. There's so
So many spells available still, they didn't use any big ulti.
Just macro pyre dropped.
They have this element of surprise though.
Still shifting down to this bomb.
Stream where they see Tylung and Heroic, they've gone through the twin gate up to
top.
Or they catch the beast.
Good timing.
The Tofa has the info, they know the beast is left alone, Tylung getting juked around,
still gonna land the roar on Mike and the lasso there to make sure no time lapse comes
in.
tips, TP's home. No more connections from Heroic, but a good kill on the weaver nonetheless.
That was an optimistic attempt, but didn't quite get him. The burst wasn't really there.
And now striding forward. 3K lead for Heroic. V-Smaster and Ursa leading out with the net worth.
Department right up at the top. Feeling comfortable to pivot from bottom lane,
intimated playing two lanes. I mean, Tylong spoke of him as the guy with a lot of
public experience right young and talented player here in a pro game but
he's delivering up against Nisha he's leaving the way 13,500 gold on this
Beastmaster doing a fantastic job so far
it has felt like the liquid supports have found room to kind of catch up and
no longer languishing down at the complete bottom of the net worth a tree
and able to hide in the trees push out waves like this gathers tofu much needed
gold and experience, but also opens the map and opens the eyes of his team so they can
find a bane or a jacquero potentially.
Yeah, I think they have to do this.
Again we have the similar situation where one team is stronger at five manning, they
have better teamfight over on Heroic right now.
Sure, they have overgrowth on Liquid, rather than that their teamfight is not the strongest,
so it needs to be towards the triple Lincoln's timing and that's still a while away.
Bustleback, they both need to finish theirs.
Storm?
A lot of mana used.
A little spooky.
Can't stand still for too long.
You've got the haste, Rune.
And right now, how do you kill Batrider?
Crimson Guard, plate mail, boots of bearing.
It may not be a heathed bottom farm carry, or a core, but still thick.
Yeah, casual plate mail as well.
I'll start poking a whisper bushwag dealt with cut down the tree whisper
getting off the swarm as heroic they hold that aggressive line up in the
top lane like we're still poking the whisper but you're right the tanky
baron a holding 21 charges overgrowth comes in tofu the yule's on the ursa
keeps the tree alive with a glass though the kill on Nisha Tylen jumps in
ace and mckay looking to turn back on the Beastmaster with some good damage
but no finish. The essence ring and the nightmare keeps him alive, while Whisper and Theolokor
Yuma jumps in, finds Micae's weaver and blows him up. Foxy falls and another 5-band wipe incoming
for Heroic! He's hungry for more, chasing with the face boots. Basher is on him. Ace
should not have any chance to get away. He backs up to reset the blink dagger. But there's
the move from Yuma and Whisper. Plenty of damage to give the Osa the triple kill. A massive
team fight victory for Heroic! I mean, they're playing it so well. They utilize their strengths
really well. We were talking just before how Batrider is so hard to burst so he puts himself
in the front. Looks like he's out of position. They dangle the Batrider. Liquid fall for
it. They say, maybe we can kill him. But there's too many save mechanics. They have the Pavis
ready. They have the Enfeeble and Nightmare. Just a lot of things disjointing the attempt
to kill the Batrider.
I look so juicy, isn't it?
I think they even body block the Hoodwink ulti. Like look right here as the Hoodwink is charging
up looking for a chance to get him. Nope.
After the aeroset, Metschel Whisper survives.
The proverbial anglerfish.
Heroic dangling that juicy morsel, all lit up in front of the liquid.
The nightmare saves the essence ring.
All this tankiness keeping Heroic alive while Yuma just dishes some serious damage out.
Back in live they're going for more advantage as well trying to invade the enemy triangle.
There were some stacks being made and they're gonna say thank you very much, Hoodwink.
These stacks belong to us now?
We're up to a 9,000 net worth leave.
The ace.
He's trying to come in here to contest the stacks,
but stuck between ancients and a macro player,
Ursa munches on him, and Thelacore picks up the kill
while tight long, jumps into the back for a freebie on tofu.
And look at that, Roshan's respawned, wouldn't you believe it?
Top Rosh, he's going to fall very rapidly here,
as Ursa makes his way in.
And they're playing so well together on Heroic.
This is the Heroic we've come to know and love
through this tournament, the Ursa, the timings, Yuma understanding how quickly he can play
and the rest of the team rallying around him when he hits his timings.
This is what they've been doing so much, and this is what Liquid very successfully stopped
in the first game, but now getting their comfort zone, we have Whisper and Bat, we have Yuma
and Ursa, and Tylong, Beastmaster, the Tiga that has been shouting for forever.
Top of the net worth, look at him, 17,000.
I can see why, I can see why.
He's definitely playing it insanely well.
His targeting has been perfect as well, it's not just about how well he's farming, but
he identifies when he needs to go on the frontline or when he can go for the backline cut deeper
for even more advantage.
And we were looking at this confluence of Lincoln's timings for Liquid.
One of them's here, the Weaver has it, but Storm and Bristleback still a little behind,
and now Beastmaster has Orchid to pop the Lincoln's to counteract those items already.
Yeah, it's taking forever to finish them.
They did take some detours, right? They went for the Kaisange fully and we had the shard
over on Bristol back, but yeah, I thought they would try to get an early Power Spike
timing with Triple Linkens, but that's been delayed a lot.
Now you're playing into Ursa Aegis for four minutes. Difficult to keep heroic at arm's
length from this objective bottom, Liquid just gonna stay screw it, will push out other
There's some massive pink arrows there from Yuma though saying hey after this top lane, mid lane, push it out
Force liquid back into their base
Yeah, they're just looking to catch they have good heroes for pick offs as well
You can't really ask for a better pick off team than what they have
Anyone can set up essentially and that's what King Jungles is trying to do on ace
That's the nightmare to start in. Tylong follows through with the roar, Bushwack holds them back, but they're gonna break free
Yeah, very chill as well from King Jungle, not even using his fiend script, despite the
bushwhack he's like it's fine, we don't need to expend any more resources.
There's a nice corridor left to Bane against Bristleback, where you throw the sleepwalk
on him and then that naturally turns him around, easy to focus the pace.
Quick and easy Lancelot, on to Tofu, we're split, dominating now.
This is just their lineup doing what it wants to do.
This is basically heroic identity in a draft.
this good pick offs dominating early game with a lot of aggression and then of course the Roshan which
was again taken out so early and then yeah being ahead and having this boots of bearing crimson
lotus bat rider pretty much unkillable you will set the solar crest on jikiro go scepter and bane
all these defensive items means it's still very challenging for liquid to find any moments of
weakness and they want to find a snipe on a support and maybe catch a core unaware with a storm a weaver
and a hoodwink, they've got all these ways to wriggle into teamfights, find openings,
but I don't think they've got enough control or damage to break through Heroic's optimization.
No, it's also about Heroic just doing a great job not showing alone on lanes.
Yeah.
They go to push a lot of lanes with wild access or sending out the boar to push lanes,
and once they do show on a lane, it's usually with a bane behind them ready to save.
And that's always been one of Storm's weaknesses, right? Very good at finding individual targets,
stragglers but against a five-man deathball half-court push that's coming to your base now
30 minutes in whisper just has the high ground sticking a palm been stacked up a lot here
two out of the three Lincoln spheres are done but they're not ready the arsonist has arrived
no insurance plan here for liquid just losing their buildings no payback nice little nightmare to
keep him safe fix the bugs off him as he opens up on the melee barracks now as well Misha zip
Zap in and out.
A no follow-through from Liquid as they're now bunker down in their base.
Just a few more auto attacks.
That melee racks could fall fast.
Range barons gone. Storm zips in and opening on the back.
Nightmare save as Yuma gets poked at.
Aegis gone.
First life down as heroic. Have to deal with the bugs.
On Liquid.
Alright, positioning at the hold of the base.
A ureter to the sky.
Alright sir, not gonna get bushwacked though.
Gets himself to safety.
And they're gonna be fine with that.
Already getting the range racks.
Not gonna get too greedy for more even though they have ulties ready.
Aegis is gone and they will respect it.
And with the epistle and Ursa, their pick-off is just getting even better.
You thought that you maybe could be safe showing on the lanes.
It's gonna amp up even more.
Now you have these Lincoln Breaks, the Orchid on Beasts, epistle Ursa.
So what's the timing we're looking for for Liquid now?
I mean, it's still the same, I feel.
It was the triple Lincoln's and it still is the triple Lincoln's, but we're
Approaching go time then. Yeah, we're 400 all the way from Bristol having his ages is down
You're getting these Lincoln's at this point though
I'm not as convinced that it feels that overwhelming since there's a lot of Lincoln's rates my deep dive wall spotted
Nisha and Foxy coming into the bottom lane
So a quick move through the gate and maybe still a go on Nisha here as clear the core
trying to get in on top of it. Nice pass starts, Nisha behind his tree has the
Lincoln's broken, zips northeast all the way back across to the wave with the TP.
Nice jump there, barely gets to safety. I was very close to him getting held in
place. But this shows how scary the map is for Team Liquid. So yeah the the
Lincoln's are complete, they have all of them, but how many Lincoln's break items
that we even have now. We have Orcid, we have Vistul, we have the Yule Scepter, so all we're
looking at is three, plus some of them have multiple spells. Bane could break all the
Linkens on his own. It's getting complicated. Certainly not an easy puzzle to solve.
That's a massive challenge. 13k down. At least they have the Gem on Storm, so you can
Deward make sure that they're not playing under any enemy vision
That's basically the most dangerous thing at this stage of the game when the enemy has such a good pick-off lineup
If you suddenly get caught standing under a ward just feel over
At least you know is liquid your base is unlikely to be assaulted again until next roge
So there's a bit of breathing room here
Yeah, that's true for now. Heroka definitely just gonna hold on to areas
try and build on the lead they already have. It's Diffusal into Disperser coming out for
Ursa. I like it. More Lincoln's break, but at the same time Mana Burn against Thorn,
which is great, against Bristle, also great. And he gets a Dispel against Treeant Protector.
And as Liquid, I mean, I'm trying to identify how they can turn this around, but honestly
I'm a little bit flat on ideas. I think just high DPS on weaver and hope that he gets to auto attack
But the burst damage is just faster on her works lineup. We're buying all raw defensive items, right? Storm is buying a low-disorder himself
Yeah
I mean, they do have one you'll set least to kite the Ursa a little bit if he's not in BQD form
I think that's really key for them
That Ursa is hunting for kills
I mean, usually we'd be looking at overgrowth into cataclysm, some kind of big ravage play.
Yeah, they don't have...
Like, the bristleback with that Agadon's refresher build, right, we saw from Horoic
previously, Candish out DPS, but here it's just tank up, stay alive, and try not to lose.
Yeah, maybe we've understated just how impactful it is that they fell on the back foot on Liquid,
because their lineup doesn't have natural comeback mechanics.
What I'm, you know, expressing by that is, sometimes we look towards big black holes
or RP or some ability like that.
The high ground hold.
Yeah, high ground defense.
They can go for maybe an Agadamceptor later on on the storm,
but what aeoe do they have to dish into it?
A pushback, I guess, to change them?
Not much.
It's not easy for them to upset when they're that far behind.
I think Liquid need to thrive in Chaos.
Not allow Heroic to approach the Roche Pit for free.
Not allow him to approach the base for free.
Yeah, Nisha needs to work some magic.
Yeah, like maybe you can sit through reveal people's position waste some some spells Lincoln's
I was like him in tandem with the weaver, right?
Like bristleback can be the focal point for heroic show ace and then the storm and weaver find the bane the jacquero someone in the back
That's just there are so many targets you have to kind of ignore ignore whisper
Ignore the ages carrier. Yeah, and the ursa is
Also going to give some presents to his friends here because this is the third rose for getting the
refresh a shard as well going out. Refresher completed on Beastmaster as well.
I made it to these top. I'm literally gonna have run away.
I see the TP out, see what's well in this. But they're all gonna dip out so
Liquid not getting caught doing a good job staying safe. But with ages and hands
you know they're gonna start making their way over towards your building. The
The line has been drawn by Yuma, a 9-0 and 7-ersa is a scary thing on its own, Gareth,
but when it's piloted by Yuma, I mean, he's been looking like a god on this hero.
I was just gonna say, the series for Yuma has been pretty frickin' incredible, right?
The last game, his Luna was 21 and 8, went unkilled for what?
The majority of that 56-minute game, now unkilled on the Ursa, Yuma's putting up numbers.
No, this tournament overall, it's not even just a series.
has been playing outstanding. He's definitely one of the absolute top carries at this tournament.
You sure are going to zip to try clear the wave. They do still have the couple of catapults
and the flag bearer coming in. 5k gold on Yuma unspent. Could be bringing in the disperse
mid-fight too.
Banner placed, pretty far away, Storm again going to zip in, trying to force a reaction
as Bristleback walks towards them, you must start to open up, Lasso into Lotus, fine,
Whisper says, I'll text this one up, watch the Bristle die, 70 seconds with no ace now.
Yeah, it's a long time and the Banner is keeping the catapult wave alive and we see Batrider
back to the same position we saw him before.
burning that building down.
Trugged all the Batrider. Whisper comes in,
burn an extra radiant base,
breaks through that living armor.
And Boxy's gonna buy back here
as Visha lurks on the left-hand side.
He's watching, but how can they even initiate?
I mean, they jump on the Batr of Vortex,
same with him. Gonna die back on Boxy now.
You will make short work of the hood, Wink.
Buildings falling quickly, and I think
Liquid out of answers, out of options.
Yeah, this Whisper Batrider, he's just going from
He's just going from lane to lane. He's got more buildings in his sights. He's an arsonist
He doesn't care about the people right now. This is about the buildings man
But the flaming hot cheetos going on with a cheese in his inventory as well down to bottom lane
Backed up by the rest of his team
Liquid got to wait for the bristle back to respawn hoodwink still out for 45 seconds as humor forces weaver to back away
Zepin Vortex not really gonna do much here to you my as he toys with them at least liquid have dealt with the wave
So the back door regen kicks in back to a region, but that's 25 stacks is to can a bomb they could stick around
We're gonna back out back out though
Get the lanes get the lanes
So Ursa has to disperse her and abyssal he can break Lincoln's on his own and jump anyone now
No.
Ace, the Bristleback usually feels so comfortable to frontline and be tanky and Yuma literally
doesn't care.
He starts to shred into this tier 3 again alongside Whisper.
Another objective down.
As Nisha he pings and says I'm going in, and a zip forward and then a zip back.
I mean, it's a whole lot of mana spent but not a whole lot of happening from it.
He placed that vision right?
He zipped him to place him on observer wards.
They won't give any information they possibly can.
And bottom lane is pretty far away, the creeps, that is.
Not approaching this radiant base.
Yeah, but still plenty of time, they have 70 seconds on the Aegis.
That's enough for them to go one more time.
Ooh, a lane is being drawn with a smoke, they want to go around.
Catch anyone who's poking the top wave out.
A kill here would be monumental for them.
Yeah.
Weaver, no buyback.
Result, same story.
even getting a support is big and storm trying to utilize his hero to zip
out of the base to clear waves doing whatever he can as Nisha oh I don't
see this one coming top lane that smoke doesn't accomplish anything not yes
anyway Mikkei being looked at jumping from Yuma finds the jump on foxy as
holding down for 50 seconds Nisha and Mikkei poking back
I'm so half health, but has the Aegis for 30 seconds still.
Yeah, still cheese over on the Batrider as well as the Refresher Shard.
He's ready to drop a double lasso on someone.
Ah, Roek, respecting Liquid and retreating now.
Saying, okay, you defended your base, we'll go back and gather all the resources left on the map to us.
They do not want to throw this. They just want to hold on to their leads.
We have given some criticism, you know, times that they've been in the spot and jumped a little bit too aggressively, threw it away.
Is it disciplined or is it overly cautious?
You could argue either way.
Okay, maybe it gives a way back for Team Liquid, you could say, but I think
I struggled to see how Team Liquid are gonna turn it around to be honest.
The only way they can win it is by fighting their base, I think.
So Heroic, they're just saying, okay, let's back up, get the objectives, tormenters, but to spawn, control some power runes.
I mean, it's been Chris the entire game from Heroic, right?
No need to change things now. No need to mess things up the perfect record through this game, too
They can also get the block of cheese now. They have two greater lotuses over on the
Stitch cura already. I'm one on the Bane as well
All the pools are empty drained of the flowers
Yeah, we can see them. Oh, that's you can see them staying tied together
together, respecting that Liquid have some jump potential with the Storm.
Tormentor finally spawns, Versa is gonna quickly make short work of that.
Yeah, I've been thinking, even a Storm Agadamceptor, while it could be cool, we have that conversation
about Black Hole and Waste, the whole high ground, actually dishing damage into it still
is the problem.
I think Mika has the right idea, he bought a Daedalus, he all in for damage, he queues
He's up the BKB, but I almost feel like he has to just send it with like a rapier or something.
They need to.
Perhaps a nullifier wouldn't be a bad idea.
They have come out of their base though, Liquid.
Not down and out just yet.
See the Ursa?
No agents.
That's not an ADIUS.
That could be the target.
No aggadems on him either.
Oh, it would be massive if Liquid could find him.
There's nightmare behind him though.
Bane is ready to save.
Nisha from the high ground.
Smoke up from heroic.
Smoke breaks.
are you liquid we know you're there oh they know the process of elimination they
realize they must be above us. Tylong says hello with some of his wild
axes and liquid have to run back they're gonna get forced back in their base as
the creeps are pushing in. They're on the tier fours and whisper on the hunt. Not
able to get away quickly ace though with a quick lotus orb on Lincoln's pot.
Yeah, Lotus gonna keep him safe because he cannot commit the roar.
Beastmaster didn't want to BKB for that either way.
At about time, Nisha is zipping out into these creep waves.
Reminds me of that old meta where we had Storm Chen, where he would put the recall on the storm zip out and then having TP back in.
That's true. I mean, he has enough mana that he can basically zip out and zip back in again as well.
He's been doing that quite a bit.
But yeah, they need to try and keep the creeps from going under their base.
Shout out S4 and Alliance for breaking the game!
Level 25 Ursa's here, even more raw damage output, as we see a Lincoln's delivered to
Whisper.
So another defensive tool there to protect himself, oh, teammates!
Yeah, gonna be pretty nice I think against the initial jump, there are not too many ways
to break Lincoln's.
I'm gonna struggle to grab him now.
And Roche could spawn any time, but it's gonna be one and a half minutes.
And a few big items being eyed up, 3.5k gold on King Jungle's Bane.
Agathem Scepter would be nice for him to get his hands on.
And the standoff continues.
One lane to defend.
One lane to push into.
I mean, Tim Liquid, amazingly, have not fallen that much more behind, even though the situation
is extremely bad.
A 23k is nothing, Wagga.
Yeah, it's nothing.
Small, minor inconvenience, Gareth.
But it's not the flesh wound.
It hasn't grown to be 33,000, okay?
That's the impressive part here, is that they're actually holding onto it pretty decently.
I've only chopped my arm off.
Yeah, I can still fight.
I'm sure, showin' it.
What are you gonna do, Gareth?
Bleed on them?
I mean, she's gonna blighting on them, kill off the creep waves, keep the lane pushed
out as fast as possible.
Heroic.
Now I'm kind of scratching their hands wondering how do we approach this.
Top lane's pushed out.
Difficult to get a grab on these Liquid Heroes currently.
But I guess the overarching game plan is wait for Roche.
They're waiting for Wing Condition.
One more round of Roche, get themselves their Refresher Shard again.
They didn't even use their previous one.
They still have one on Jakiro, but they're like, you know what, our Bane doesn't have
a refresher shard so everyone will get a refresher.
Ressa with the swift blink coming in soon.
He's saving buyback as well, being very, very diligent, very respectful as they have
the tier two towers still available as well.
They don't want any chance for Liquid to turn it.
Mechare's change is mine, going for Butterfly, didn't want that BKB.
Yeah, I mean that's what I was hinting at with the rapier shots earlier.
they meet DPS, butterfly is probably a more sensible choice.
It would be hard to hold onto a rapier and butterfly will keep him a little bit safer.
Here comes five minutes of oppression, both.
Yeah, I don't even think it's going to be five minutes of oppression.
I think they're going to come in swinging pretty soon.
Maybe it will be a minute or two, but...
I don't know, they could have held on this long.
Yeah.
I've set the map up in a pretty good state here top lanes at the tier 2 on the dire side
We was gonna clear out mid. I mean they they are forming their items at least getting their neutral item
We have nine buybacks available
Yeah, the next fight is gonna be a brawl especially as dire do hold the outposts
So they could TP there if they respawn or if the buybacks are so what a heroic have eight lives in effect
plus buybacks versus the 10 lives of liquid.
Yeah, I mean it's going to be a bloody battle and I think the only way that you can maybe
beat heroic is going to be wear them down, make them run out of all decent refreshers.
Gotta be quick with these Lotus Lincolns though.
Placing them on your allies, try and bounce back some spells.
That push is coming, it's going to be Batrider going high ground.
That's gonna be the thing bounce back a roar bounce back some of these single target abilities
Just doesn't work particularly. Well against fiends bit or lasso
But this banner is pretty enormous as well. They put it so far back storm can't do the same job as before
Even had his Lincoln's popped on the way through look at that pattern the upgrade on banner is actually so relevant
It's it's so far out of reach with a we range. Yeah, yeah the catapults miles away
Storms will come in and try and say hello to Heroic.
Don't tell me this is the game plan. End the game with the catapults pushing and just protect the banner effectively.
You might jump seeing. He wants a piece of this action as well.
I'll chip away at the buildings.
There's just no way to get onto this banner.
I'm like, replacing an ice path on it as well.
It'll be a few minutes, but the catapults will get the job done.
Death by a thousand cuts.
Fury swipes. Jump in onto Orisa.
Dragonback with Vortex first killed there! They blow up Yuma!
Now Mikkei, he's on the planters. They can stop this game plan from happening.
There's the jumpback with the time-lapse. Overgrowth binds them.
Banner down and base health. Liquid defend their bottom barracks.
And heroic. A little bit too scared to go in. A lot of resources committed for that defense.
Weaver using his ulti as well. But with level 25 and butterfly, Mikkei is pretty damn strong at this point.
point net worth be damned I think this 29,000 net worth weaver might just be a
strongest hero and again disciplined or overly cautious alright slowly trying to
poke at that high ground and try to make sure they don't make the slip up in it
previously with that feast massive jump from whisper or they walked over a ward
being just looking for a catch that's you beat out already weaver hoodwink
Long gone.
Gotta be in time, get to safety.
And still, it's 24,000 advantage.
Liquid somehow managed to conjure enough gold in this situation
to not lag more behind in gold.
I mean, they do have sort of fast food delivery.
The push coming in mid and top, it's very nice.
You're not very nutritious.
No, it's junk food for sure.
These lane creeps, they don't really give you too much gold.
But in a pinch, but you have a lot of it Gary. It'll keep you sated.
Boots of travel too for the OS are being picked up.
Some ideas there of playing that wide map and then rejoining from long range.
Okay, so previously I talked about the idea of the 53 Lincoln Spheres, but it's the 4.
30 minutes ago?
I think it's the 5 Lincoln Spheres is what's gonna win it. You know, Tofu has his.
I'm just looking at the one guy who didn't buy a link that's if they lose this game
We know who's fault it is liquid exodia missing one Lincoln's are we?
Let's go for an a on this what kind of selfish item is this you can't pass an a on this to someone I can't
Arrow a bomb damage boy come back down bottom for another go with this lane
Without a banner this time though, maybe a little more challenging to break up the high ground
still playing into their vision though scanning forward they know someone is
lurking in the shadows and that would be tofu yeah using the bane trying to
find anybody you know nice the trees need to be taken out it's one of those
situations where a lesser team you know would have lost this 20 minutes ago but
liquid have found all the avenues just to plug the holes make sure they keep
bailing water out with a sinking ship you do touch or you did touch on
something very important though if this was a lesser team than liquid do you
think heroic would have been this cautious perhaps not I feel like they
are giving a lot of respect and some of it is definitely worth it but so then
notoriety precedes them yeah yeah certainly to a degree a lot of respects
make a niche even out of their base look at them stepping forward here thinking
about if they can kill the Ursa he's being accompanied by the bane though
Byback state is now down to two on liquid.
Trion and Bristle, the only ones holding it.
But Heroic have done a full retreat across the map.
They're trying to finish off this Agadam's blessing.
This Lincoln's on the beast faster.
Yeah, a few more items coming in with the Swift Blink of course on the Ursa,
but still no Agadam's consumed. We can get bigger.
He's got the Travels level two getting ready, the Ultra late game.
I guess then dealing with that Lotus Lincoln's out of ace so he doesn't roar himself.
Well, we're getting to a point now where this next Roshan, 5th Roshan could be sporting before we see the game end.
And Liquid, they're smoking out onto the map with a scan. They know someone's here.
Been a lot of times since they found a kill, but a jump off the other core.
Nightmare buys a little bit of time, yulz into the sky, but there's no response.
The Ghost Scepter comes, the Jokera's finished.
And if they're in TPing home, there's no more stuns, but a kill for Liquid.
There's an attempt with the Overgrowth there, not quite going to reach him.
That's their first kill since minute 19.
Is that really true?
Unless I'm reading this wrong.
Oh my god.
That is something for sure.
A wild...
That calls for celebration, right there.
First 10 kills, 51 minutes in, there you go, Liquid.
I mean, that's a moral victory, right? We can do it, guys.
They have the hex on the storm, so...
Bombing situation! Got some chase.
Oh, side device from nation. That's a game changer.
I mean, this late into the game, we do head into dangerous territory where anything can happen in ult or late game indulge.
If you have the wrong connection into each other, you...
Suddenly get jumped on the back line. Even if you're really far ahead you might still lose even though the plus is saying it's it's a
You know a one in three chance. Yes, it's not too far from a coin flip like a really bad coin. It's a coin flip
the land on this edge I
Was actually kind of expecting that the plus craft to go 50 50
I was waiting for it to move to the middle who knows man who knows like all team liquid in this game
That's basically the same as a specter
A spectra of victory!
Heroic's still in a very commanding position, jokes aside, they have been leading out this
game and looking very, very tight, but it's getting to that situation now where the old
adage, you know, Networth lead, who the hell cares if he can't break high ground and take
the throne, your lead is false!
Mika is basically gear-capped at this point, he got himself the nullifier, getting insanely
strong, he can still upgrade just a little bit, like sure you can go moonshared and agathans
consume, maybe wants to slot out the
Lincoln's for satanic mid-fight or something, but
what do you think about being able to
consume a Lincoln's fair and just having
a passive on you? Please no.
Anything that incentivizes teams to drag out
games before I think is in the wrong
direction. Yeah you're right. You should
be able to do the other way around. You
should be able to mulligan one of your
inventory slots. You should sell an inventory slot
and get yourself some extra advantage.
I'll play with five inventory slots this game
Give me some boost. I mean instead you get plus a hundred damage. What are you thinking?
I get crit. I get 20% crit. You got a one-time item usage, you know, it's like one-hacks
It's a super diggin. It does
1600 damage once you got to choose but you burn your inventory. You got to choose to blow up one building in the enemy base
Okay, I know which one I'm choosing
I know which one I'm choosing as well!
Tofu, out of the base, gripped up and killed as Whisper and King Jungles meet him.
High Grand Vision, of course.
I understood there by liquid that they saw that one coming.
They're waiting for Roshan, this key objective.
So key that you need to take him out not once, not twice, not three times, not four times,
but I'm not even sure how many times it's going to be, Gareth.
Plantis might not be the last one.
Myriad.
That's the one.
One minute for the respawn, Ursa is closing in on being able to get the full Agadamns Consume.
He's got 8k gold in the bank, 40,000 net worth overall.
Again a game where Yuma hasn't died at all, in this game maybe a little bit less impressive
than the Luna game where he was on the back foot for such a big part of the game.
It's such a difference, though.
When you get into this flow, early game to mid game, you're building up pressure, ramping,
heading towards base, getting Roshan's.
It's all building blocks towards this key idea, we're going to end the game.
Now having to take your foot off the pedal, slow down, pump the brakes a little bit.
Get a jump on mid game, but he's quickly got free.
Chasing a little bit.
Go in, get the D-ward.
And we talked about liquid resilience, but honestly you know heroic resilience here to not throw away the game, not to get too aggressive or eager.
And wait for this next Roshan to make sure they can secure it.
Definitely not too aggressive I wouldn't say. They've been very methodical about how they want to do this.
At this point they might start talking about all we can get the tier 5 item advantage, keep the opponents from getting it.
Oh, the Roshan Roar, it looks like heroic, you're a little...
...expecting liquid to come out.
I'm concerned about the jump, I mean there's the chance for like a Storm Zip to steal, right?
Yeah.
There could be a double reason to delay that Roar's just a little bit there.
Partly going scout if you get jumped, but also, I was mostly memeing about the Tier 5 items,
but it does coincide with the ages still being up.
And there's a roar, Tylong pops through the lincoln, refreshes up for the double disable
onto ace who's dead for 90, boxy also caught outside the base, two heroes down and only
one with buyback.
Yeah, no buyback in sight that he bought out the heart so it could be some precarious timing.
Surely now, with Aegis on the Batrider, he has been the high ground seacher so they decide
to give him the Aegis.
I like that he's queued up six hyperstones.
He wants to attack faster.
Let's moonshot it up.
Misha continuing to shove out the wave
with a static remnant spam at his level 25.
50 seconds on the bristleback.
No sense of urgency, but they're slowly heading down
towards bottom.
Is he going to get the respawn without a high ground push?
There's no way.
It can't be allowed, right?
Oh, surely they will go mid lanes approaching.
Tyrone catches the bottom wave to shove that in as well.
They're being awfully cautious about how they're approaching this. 20 seconds!
Maybe they think the game is a lot closer than we see it to be.
Might be so, but here we go.
Heroic up to high ground.
See how quickly they can dispatch with these buildings.
The arsonist.
Spelling up to his name.
Killing off the ranged barracks, and 11 stacks of napalm on the melee.
Burn it a little bit.
Liquid is striking out, dorm zips in.
Vision through the Shiva's Guard, and you can see there the rest of the team itching to get involved.
I wanted to make a meal of that, but heroic, another very tight, defensive line here.
Always falling back as a unit, no stragglers, no one left behind.
Ohana.
Who's family?
You're so ready for that.
Double Refresher shard still.
The Aghanim's de Kiro and Ursa as a refresher in the backpack.
Still not really wanting to commit the Batrider onto the high ground.
I don't see what's going on, do they?
They want to catch someone, but Weaver is constantly in this.
Liquid have the info advantage.
Eyes in the forest, keeping tabs on Heroic.
Whisper is edging forward, smoke jump forward, Lincoln's pod, PKB used, he wants to commit. Overgrowth is there though.
Back in the ways, his nightmare saved and, guess how, still holding Aegis.
Storm, we zipped him to kill it, so now the Aegis is gone, and Liquid haven't lost that final lane of Barracks.
They're healing it, Tree and Protector. Trying to fix it, finally we have a block of cheese.
a block of cheese. Lovely! There we go, it's been so long that they could have made it.
They decided, you know what, it's cheese time. One minute for the next wave of items coming in.
Two to five neutrals as well. Coming up shortly. They're pinging the racks. They're saying we should
go for it. It is low HP still. Glyph is available for radiance. He eats the cheese. The block of
She's the entire thing.
Gobbles it up.
I want to make a move.
Mechay playing out of the base.
Looking to get on top of someone here.
Storm forcing a reaction.
And the way Liquid are playing with such confidence,
they know this is a losing game,
but Heroic are just getting shoved away from base
over and over again.
Yeah, Liquid are playing like they have nothing to lose.
They're like, I think they feel like this game
should have been lost a long time ago,
so now they're starting to play with confidence
just going out there saying you know what yeah we're not scared do we start
buying hands of Midas now to get these madstone bundles to get your neutral
items faster we could definitely see some purchase for that I mean Trian doesn't
refresh your orb he could get one next but he doesn't have the gold
full Midas is going 60 minutes about to hit 34,000 net worth lead has felt I don't
want to say meaningless but the bash has got the stun never mind
Can I be fine?
Why?
I got the hype there.
Ah, didn't really have Bane close enough.
No change done.
What were we talking about?
Yeah, no try-on.
Midasus.
Midasus?
Yeah.
I mean, so far we're not seeing any of that, but we are seeing Dire clearing out a lot
of the jungle creeps.
Everybody is clearing a jungle camp right now.
They're getting all their items.
Not really focusing on restricting liquid, but instead getting theirs as soon as possible.
We'll see what they get their hands on.
That's just so many good items, right? Divine Regalia, Stygian Desolator, Minotaur Horn.
Spiralix are not bad. Fallen Sky also pretty decent here for Ursa.
This guy's a little Fallen Sky. Get that jump in.
Tower damage.
We have one Necrobook as well already picked up over in the Beastmaster. Two Necrobooks as King John.
Oh, here we go.
Three Necrobooks. Oh, God.
Sick and tired of you defending your base!
I sent the swarms and army, Necro units in, here they come.
Start chipping away into the barracks.
This is the strength, Necro books.
A banner on the capital behind as well.
Giving cover here for heroic to start again, chipping away at this final lane of buildings.
This barracks will never fall, Garrett. It is unbreakable.
Liquid will hold it.
It's an impregnable base here from Liquid.
Liquid.
They've got a moat, they've got a bunker, the bane is falling quickly, the damage out
of Mekke and help to kill King Jungles.
Biberback's available for the bane, but a cat on Yuma here, forces the BKB.
Tylong also, BKB Linkin's overgrowth, Kost has to refresh, he's on the run, but he's
in trouble, Tylong's dead!
Liquid, the ninja storm, he is held in place and falls quickly.
Biberback out of ninja now as Tylong also does the same.
TP's in, Mekke, Tylong lapses out.
H from Lions and holds the back, the Hex of Ursa, Liquid and Triple for Mickey!
No fucking way!
What are you guys doing, man? They're going...
What am I watching?
Mickey, what a beast!
Get an ultra kill!
They're back from the dead somebody, there's 15,000 gold down there, get it?
You're so fucking rich!
What is going on?
Start buying some shards for your entire team, they're getting out on the map for the first time in a long time.
Incredible scenes! Fight for the 34k lead! Nothing! Down at 20!
And more importantly, two buybacks were used on Dyer. They lost the fight, they expended more buybacks.
So yes, Storm doesn't have buyback. He's going to have to play so cautiously on Nisha now not to get caught out.
But it's then with the win condition!
The first time they break that defensive line, they're fighting the straggler.
Look at the triant here. Gets the immediate ulti in a little bit when they start running away with Beastmaster.
He forces the first, or the second BKB, but then the refresher of Korea holds him even longer, gets the DPS in there.
Oh, she's so good. The buyback from Nature League, then you'd have to expend it.
It's almost like killing Storm as a mistake there, because he respawns, and then he has managed to zip in and take a long fight.
Full resources. Straight back into it.
Back in live, they've been farming up some of their items, by the way. They have the Stygian Desolator on Weaver, massive minus armor, and he also has the Boundless on that.
Liquid playing as though they've got a bloody repair kit, the way they've kept their bottom barracks alive.
Frustration's starting to kick in here from Heroic.
Yeah, I'm not feeling good about how this is progressing.
I'm gonna have half the net worth of these.
15k, 13k, just keeps on dipping.
Yeah, this is...
Mariana trench there in the graph as Pofu, okay, does get picked off.
Buyback available, though.
Nicely played together there, gets one isolated target.
Roshan number six.
How long? A minute to go!
And this is a Roach that are gonna be able to fight for as well on the side of Liquid.
Get the Pormenter, it dies in a second.
Aghanim's is the next item for Weaver. He has already consumed Moonshard.
Aghanim's is consumed. He is literally getting to Gear Camp.
Revolve Book of the Dead for Ace!
And these Book of the Dead are almost better than the Book of the Dead's the heroic god,
Because this will allow them to scout, get out there, get information, send some vision in.
And proxy push, like ghost push, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really, I, cause I don't think you can see Tigran with the necrobooks as easily as you can scout the map.
Now the top lane being shoved in, that's all thanks to those necro warriors of Nisha.
Liquid starting to feel themselves. How many holes did we have? How many Roshan's, Aegis' have they actually fought through?
You know, I think this is one of the first times I've actually seen someone take the wise
augmentation for a tier 5 item, but it makes sense on Storm. The extra mana is really nice as an addition to the experience per minute as well
He's gonna get himself to level 30
The bouncing overload attacks is a serious DPS increase as well. Rosh is up
Watching Storm's XP counter to tick up
Well, Roshan number six is spawned up and is wondering why there's still heroes on the
map.
What is going on out here?
He's a pretty strong roach.
He has 60 armor.
Like sure they can kill him, but it's not that fast anymore.
Foxy scouting.
Sharpshooter into the pit.
This is where the necrobuck value comes in, scouting the field.
Both teams have access to it, of course.
could have to continue maintaining lanes.
TARP has to be dealt with, as Micke contends
with all the Necro warriors and archers.
Don't forget them.
Nisha, not going to get caught on the mid lane,
just pushing it out.
Power rune is falling.
Both teams buying for control.
Just keep going back to the itemization.
And Lincolns and Lotus is just making it so challenging
for Herok to have the easy jumps, right?
They had in the first 25 minutes.
No longer simple.
They're going to poke back into the Roche
shield wound is really nice for Yuma. Another bellow from Roche. Roaring. Giving the signal
to Liquid that he's being dealt with. Half health Roche. That's definitely going to be
a zip. A sharp shooter again. Backing out. What do we do here? Spotter. Nisha the zipper
gets into the backline. Seasway Yuma sitting. Bottom has to be pushed though as Whisper
coming to the base, the Batrider cyclones himself, but he's dying to Mikkei.
That gives Heroic the Roast Glow.
So Whisper dies, has his buyback, and now we've got Aegis, Refresher, Cheese, Cheese, Cheese,
Cheese, Lizard, Lizard, Lizard for Heroic.
I mean, they get it, but I wonder if it's even worth it.
That was a bad planned move, right?
He'd keep it bottom, he knew he would die.
That was already premeditated.
The question is, is it okay to die and get the Aegis there, or is Liquid gonna be able to make something happen?
Don't ask me questions, Wagga! I don't know what's going on!
It's so...
It's a dangerous choice, is what I'm saying.
Can't even buy the odds pretty much there.
As we've seen Heroic go from a winning position to now being in a level playing field,
Liquid just keep tipping the scales, putting their thumb on the scales.
And we have Yuma with 12k gold rapier in the quick buy.
hard to fill his inventory with any more items though he's gonna buy one
rapier it's on the courier and 12,000 gold to spend gonna buy something so does
look like that rider will get to respawn quite safely but there is a
smoke attempt give us a loan at top oh nice scan defensive scan scans and
blinks teepees out it's completely fine gets out of the area wasn't wasn't too
too far away from being caught, huh?
As long as he gets to respawn safely on Batrider, the move worked out.
They got the Aegis, didn't lose anything important for it, and now the countersmoke.
Take a breath, take a beat, bottom lane, smoke up down here again, they're hunting and looking
to reward the area, get themselves prepped for another high ground push.
One and a half minute for the Aegis, over for the buyback timing on Storm Spirit.
I think they're trying to make a play before that.
That's also their buyback timing, so on Beast and Bane.
Super important.
Anisha currently thinking about shoving that top wave
with the Necro Warriors.
There is the Jumpton boxy, but he's got the A on disc.
And Yuma gets away from Mekke.
Treescary might have damage following through.
Bane, nightmare saves.
Yuma, he's dead, though.
And an overgrowth, with Asia's damage.
They were like Cora and King Jungle's dying, Fiends creep on the storm, but there's no damage to follow through!
Three heroes dead and one gone for two minutes!
Team Liquid, it just seems destined to be, man. They were so far behind, they were so far down,
and they just seem to have this protagonist buff to them right now.
In a game that seemed inevitable for Heroic!
They're just going to win, man. You can't take it away from them.
No way! 56% chance! 57% polyglot!
I think it's higher right now. I think it's way higher.
No Bane for a hundred. They're coming for you now, Liquid.
They sense blood in the water.
They've seen how passive you've been, how deliberate and defensive you've played.
Bane is gonna have five back soon.
Close to 50k damage done, straight towards the tier three tower.
Mid lane, Barracks about to be dealt with here as they force the glyph out of Heroic.
Weaver DPS from so far away is insane. This extra range from his neutral item along with the hurricane pipe
10071 last hits
I mean look at that one volley takes out the tower. The building's just crumble
I think I've never seen a weaver this farm. This is very crazy
Absolute insanity. They're gonna go and try go for megas. Bane is bought back
But Mikkei dealt with your tier 3 bottom lane bat trying to trade out
Looks like he's dealing with the backdoor protection
Trying to set up with a trade going on him whisper might be in trouble, but he gets the job done
Now they move in onto the weaver, Tylaan, the Roars, weaver's caught out, but he's not dead yet
Mikkei stays alive!
Nisha into the backlines where the grip comes in, they've killed the storm
Weaver still DPSing, kills the beast, Mikkei from long range, the beast master down for two minutes
but a same story! Buybacks on all three of those cores!
Ooh, the ice path just a second too late. Not gonna catch the weaver.
And bottom lane barracks did die! So what is it now? Megas vs. Megas?
Megas vs. Megas. And he got out safely as well on Whisper.
That is crazy man, this game... 71 minutes!
And now it's anyone's game really, it's so open. There's one single player without buyback
right now and that's Bane. Everybody else is ready. So does everyone say let's just wait for them to
respawn? They don't want to spend buybacks do they? Happy. We're waiting for next Roche? Seventh Roche?
Yeah I mean why not? Why not? Why not? Indeed! What about the Tormenter?
Is there any player who doesn't have shard by now? There's a few players who still don't have
Aghanim's Scepter. They almost have a full Aghanim's Shard and Aghanim's Scepter on Team Dyer.
And then Yuma with his rapier still in courier, right?
Yeah.
Waiting for his moment to shine.
Yeah, he's ready to send it out, but I mean it's just difficult to juggle out some item
for him as well.
And especially now, he's against Magikreeps, he doesn't really want to get rid of battle
fury, right?
Yeah, he put it.
Well, I just have to.
That's the battle fury into the backpack, he's considering if he can swap around the
items.
I think if there's a fight in his base, he can put the rapier in his inventory.
And yeah, of course the six necrobooks are definitely doing a lot of gold pushing so this game is ever more volatile
Everyone is freed up to make moves. It looks like everybody's going to be alive
So we're gonna be in that situation where it's just the bane without the buyback and Shakira will get his 70 gold no problems
Heroic and it feels like they've deserved their pound of flesh in this game liquid though with a 2k lead
I cannot believe how they've managed to weasel themselves into this position through itemization through defensive posture
Bringing that game Ted to even they had that long period. What was it from minute 19 to 50 without a kill?
I don't know what the math is there, but all of a sudden a flurry of action on the graph
Yeah, I mean 2000 lead by the way the overall goal just like
180,000 per team so it's insane how how closely matched this is at this date of the game
We've got past 50 minutes into percentage minutes!
We can see the rapier, and so can liquids.
They spotted the Ursa equipped the rapier.
Space time is warping on the crash!
Ursa rapier, definitely a game changer.
That's what heroic will try and levy to their advantage.
If we put Likwits hands on that though, that would be absolutely terrifying.
They're going to go for the jugular, heading down mid, run it down towards the tier fours and throne.
Lines drawn on the map.
There's lotuses on the floor, there's necro warriors and archers.
Waddling around and looking for info as Mikkei pokes his head around the tree line.
They can sense it though.
Faroka reacting pretty well to this, putting down vision, sitting behind Yuma.
They have a lot to do.
vision, sitting behind Yuma. They have to focus the weaver. Weaver's DPS is absolutely unmatched
in this game. But Nisha has done such a good job of just throwing, hurling his body into
the midst. Yeah. He's demanded the attention. They could still wait up for Nisha's agonim
scepter actually. It's not a bad idea to let him finish that. Against these Lincoln
Sphere's as well, he wouldn't have to worry about it. And maybe he could grab multiple
heroes. Can we come back to that discussion about black holes and ravages? Right, having
this storm with the blue hole? Definitely could. It's coming. More neutral items though,
74 minutes in. He's purchased up everything. Agadem's consume, coming in for the storm.
I mean, at this point, it's hard to buy much more.
Surprisingly, I didn't buy a moonshot for him, so at least, I mean, yes, you almost
always have overpower, but it gives you a bit of night vision, too.
We're about to head into night time here.
Seeing the enemy first is insanely important in this game, and Triant now no longer has
to keep putting a living armor on a building over and over again, can start looking at
Letting armouring his allies, putting along some of these creeps as they push out of the waves and get onto the tier 4 towers.
Slowly does it.
Big tower damage done. Necrobux gone.
I don't even joking, every little helps.
Roshis back and he's added even more armour. He hits for 600 damage per hit by the way, almost 700.
What a monster.
You don't want to fight him.
Big man, sitting in his cave.
He's just chilling in there.
Anisha are going to start things off with Mikkei alongside.
Nice path, a little annoying, just giving the indication there that heroic.
Not giving this one up without a fight.
Both teams in position to control the pit.
Balls scouting inside. Mikkei clears them out.
And then the armies of necro warriors battling it out.
It's a proxy battle. It's a prold war.
You don't want to fight each other.
Head to head to send the little squirmy summons in.
Okay, DD over on Ursa.
Oh, hello.
Bit of extra damage, hitting for almost a thousand per hit.
Liquid say, screw Roshan.
We don't need number seven to get a new volley of neutral items as well.
They can swap into...
I've never seen that in a number of games that I've watched.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like, Ursa's still sitting and wondering what he wants to upgrade here.
Yeah.
Holding his Fallen Sky.
Might go for a book of the dead if he needs it.
Not one more.
You want more?
I mean, look at Whisper.
And he's got the Fallen Sky and he's in the enemy base, not sure what the goal is here.
I mean, Korea Sniper?
Right.
He's got another Moonshard, oh he wants to try and base-raise it no way.
Oh, they have backdoor!
Okay, push the reaction, TP from Storm, makes her zips in and forces BKB.
So Liquid full retreat to come back to their base to defend, but that's half HP on that
remaining tier 4 tower.
Now Liquid spring into action again, another smoke.
TP's all on cooldown, good thing to know it's there because Heroic could go back for another play the same.
They have so much vision on Liquid, all these treants, eyes in the forest, scouting with the necrobooks as well.
Someone's on the front, giving vision towards the pit, so Heroic, no, Roshan's being done.
We should throw with a hectic or vortex burst in my message.
Humor breaks free.
Bushwhack annoying, but Humor's alive, stays up and running at least for now.
Roche is falling.
He is, with almost 2,000 crits out of mid-game, he's going to secure them the ages on Weaver.
That rider...
He's claim break, push back, he has no BKB, Whisper, he's dying here!
Roche and a takedown.
A single hero can mean so much at this stage of the game.
There's no way he's gonna peacefully get to respawn as well, not with Aegis over on Micah's weaver.
Liquid. Can I force the bat by back?
I mean, they're definitely gonna head in. There is no doubt in my minds they are moving forward.
They've been on bat foot for so long.
Ion disc, fiend's grip, ice path comes, that's an Aegis Weaver though, as Tylong commits.
Age moves forward, Storm zips to the back, Yuma has the BKB in retreat now, as Bat buys back.
Tylong running back to high ground with a Tequera's focus, Nightmare buys some time, but his death is inevitable.
Heroic!
Err, so there's no BKB anymore.
Bi-Bax being used, BKB's expended.
and a liquid knocking on your door. Liquid have zero beak piece that they need to rely
on. All their cores are playing without it. It's a better spot right now. And they've
got the A.O.E. living all of them. Look at them go in. Nisha dives poking at Tylong and
King Jungles. Chikiro buys back as in the back, Yuma made a move. Has to retreat though
as he spent his enrage and the jump is spent as Tylong nullified forth back the mountain.
The damage of the buildings now comes to fruition from Liquid though.
Temple's gone, and Yuma in trouble!
He's...dancing!
The Baz died back!
The Ursa, he'll return!
Trying to deal with the Weaver, but Miki has the timelapse!
Turn! Slays Tylong!
Jikiro's done as well!
Miki! I do good!
The strong Weaver!
Stand this ground!
And Yuma is gonna get finished off as well!
Heroic have nothing left, Wagga!
GIGGY'S COLD!
LICKWID HAVE DONE IT!
I can't believe what I'm seeing, dude.
What a hold by Liquid and Heroic.
It seemed like it was inevitable that they were gonna win.
What a game!
For so long.
I think they broke Gareth, he's just wandering in circles.
How can you be so calm, Liquid?
After what we just witnessed, how can you be so calm?
What a show, man. What a show.
Oh yeah, cinema. I agree, Nisha. What a performance.
Heading back to the panel, I can't breathe!
If you ever need a reminder that you should not ever give up in a game of Dota 2, watch this game again,
because oh my gosh, Team Liquid brought it back after being on the brink of losing this one.
They bring it back and eliminate Heroic in the process here with Tegof and Gunnar attempt to break down this near-18-minute Dota 2 game.
In Liquid, kill at 19 minutes?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Kill at 51 minutes?
Ehh!
Game still feels a bit awkward.
They're barely getting a kill.
I think it was like a Bane or a Jokiro.
61 minutes?
There's another kill.
And sure, we're going to start all the way at the 7 minute mark.
It was important though!
It was very important because Liquid did not respect Yumef
and the concept of Herok, they kind of chain feed here
which maybe kind of creates the problems for Liquid.
Sure, they made an epic comeback, but the early game was
very, very underwhelming for them.
and Herok would be able to really just put such a big lead into the game, but still would have come back.
Well, it takes us one melee racks.
One melee racks, you gotta hold on.
It's crazy, they finally get mega creeps on Liquid, like they win the one fight, and then it's a trade of mega creeps.
It wasn't even like, oh, we get a free mega creeps.
Yeah, and I even love the Whisper. Do you know when he went for the tier four?
He was trying to force out the glyph, even if he was to die.
If Liquid use Glyph then, Boots of Travel 2 on all the Cores and Horrocks, they will
massively feed in, they have Refresher on the Bat Rider, he'll have double BBB and they
will win the game.
The Liquid not using the Glyph, being very patient, understanding that even if they lost
that tower, not using Glyph is the way to lose this game.
So at the very end of the game, under the intensity of the back and forth, the Mega
vs. Mega, Whistler was trying to create a little comeback for Horrocks because they needed
one after their inability to just close out a game, which I'm sure if they played it again,
they would be able to close out.
Yeah, I will also say that final hit from the Hootrank just clipping the Ursa just barely as you
mentioned. He just stepped into it with like a tiny step. Oh my gosh, and then he has to go in
because he has to hope that he can then die and buy back and be in full health again.
I think the Hootrank actually had the Neutronum increase in the AOE for health,
And that was like why it like barely clips the earth so they're like everything mattered like right there
Look, he's at 15 health and you can see he's trying to think like if I go base
I don't know time to heal a pole. So he just like commits in
Hunter now he has a block of shoes for a job. She's kind of cool, but it's like
What do you do here? It's like no no options you have at this point feel good. I mean, it's too late at this point
You know something got messed up. It's a bit so you're not analyzing this stage of the game for Iva team
You know
No, no, no, this is like well prepared multiple sounds on his career had it falling around and yes
And then was force feeding you know, low sixes and whatnot, but sure. Oh
God, it's a liquid when you look about how they got into the comeback, right? It is
Everyone understanding how bad the game was and like storm at 25 taking the kind of the remnants talent, right him skipping waves
Mickey skipping waves. Well, like they knew like all we have to do is
that. It's eventually get to a
point where we maybe can get
that one fight. So again, it's
like clearly someone on the
team said, don't kill them.
Skip the waves. And it worked
out. It worked out great there.
To be honest, you can make
everybody inside of liquid and
MVP, but Mickey on the weaver.
I mean, just kiss the way you
put the fights when they were so
There's a lasso, there's a roar, there's an earth second kill, there's a feign fiend's grip.
And they're behind like 30,000 gold and he's still like, moving around with different like,
the lotus, the linkins, like his team helping him.
You have Nisha cutting every single wave.
Like you said, he went to 25 talent, no one goes, but to kill every wave.
You have Ace, he was 184, you know, he had a bit of a rough game, but he picked it back
up again though.
But he locked in.
He locked in.
And he kind of ran in in front and he tanked all the spells in the fights.
So I'm right on boxy because guess what boxy was doing while everybody else was having fun in the in the
Dagon base. He was the one that when they still had that one million lyrics. He defended that
Yeah that was his job.
And tofu wishes living almost better at healing buildings because my God they needed it
That true house asian region per second. Yes really kicked in there. Yeah
We look to all the heroes and all the items. Yeah
One thing that liquid might look back in in this game is they all itemized for link in the Lotus very early
Which on paper is very good, but it did mean that they had like no damage no way to actually kill and progress the map
Hence why they had to play so defensive, but at the 80 minute mark they look epic
Oh, yeah, what do you know?
Yeah, what's your fine Lincoln's there barricade? Yeah, of course
But maybe everyone buying it at like the 30 40 minute mark and realizing wait a second
How do we kill a hero could we all just have you know defensive items might be a smidge of hindsight, but it doesn't matter
It doesn't matter if you win and if you get the win you get the winners interview and that's why ace is talking to slacks right now
Absolutely. Yep. We are here with ace ace incredible game coming out here at least from a viewer perspective
Are you guys happy with that game from a player's perspective? Did you think are you proud of yourselves or could have gone better?
I think we are relieved. I don't know heavy
Not so heavy. I would say
bit of a shit game, but I think I'm still
happy about how we kept our cool and understood
that this game is still very renewable.
Yeah.
And I do want to talk to you about what that's
like coming into that.
I mean, we have one Rax left.
You guys, everyone on the team has a Lotus Orb
and a Lincoln Spear with absolutely no way to do anything.
But what is that like the planning wise?
Is someone just saying, we can hold this Rax boys,
or is there a big talking?
Can you walk me through that?
I mean, I think we all know on the team that Beast
It's a very weird hero that falls the fuck off like this here falls off like a cliff
It's like destroying here in the game and then it's the weakest and then also that the lineup is like really weak against both
Linkens and Lotus
Like they actually can play against it. Yeah, so I think it's just like no matter the network difference
At some point they will hit a wall and also at some point they're buying all these troubles too much
So all the network is like kind of fake and then it's a side we just scaled kind of better
Like I think they had changed to just send it like
the moment they're like try to end it you know but they were like pushing out a
little bit but I can also understand like it's not that easy. Coming from you
guys and saying they were pushing out not pushing high ground is wild but that
is very very cool so what moment do you think they could have synched it? 100%
there was that fight bottom with the banner you know Oshirusa goes in and
you guys barely get him but what time do you think they could have really ended
that game? I mean that's probably one more than one time the game is so long
But I also think the banner, like the banner got like giga big at some point
I don't know if I've seen a banner that like fake in range, but I think they put it a bit too far back
I used the bottom push if it's closer. It's a bit harder for us. I think
But I don't know I don't know the specific time marks, but like I think they were like they were playing a bit too far back and like
Absolutely, so I want to talk to you about what it's like being the guy who has to be on the front line
Obviously I would imagine that's not as exciting for you. We got Mickey cutting waves
You know we got all these guys doing crazy stuff your job is be a three and ten bristle back
What's that feel like for you? Is that like you got to do your duty or do you really feel like you're putting in that effort for the
Team being that frontliner. I mean I was pretty sad because I had a pretty good like game
And like I had a really good lane and good game
But the other lanes basically said and didn't go so well and then I ended up using my lead to like feet of it
So I feel like the people could farm I guess, but yeah, most of the game
I'm just like standing in base and like making spirals
Because I feel like I got a base I instant that but also thank God for the update with the Bristol auto quilling
Because it has to go out with an injury after the game
So I don't even have to click the W all the time. Oh, yeah, thank God
Absolutely, you know the cerebral palsy coming in very quick after that. All right. So after that game
Are we gonna see a long game like that again?
I will traditionally we've had pretty quick games pretty even games here so far and it's especially in this series
Super super long do you think long games with a meta from now on or is this a flute?
I mean I think for our team now after like we're gonna have some like
Some confidence now after this game like if we get behind we're like going for the long game from now
We're not backing out anymore. Yeah, definitely the longest game of the series and my final question
How far behind do you guys think you were?
Uh, net worth wise. I have the number, but I wanted to do your opinion. How screwed were you guys?
What was the biggest it was?
Hmm
I don't know if it's okay
He got absolutely a hundred percent thirty five K behind you guys clawed it back. So well done. Thank you so much for an incredible game
That giga indeed incredible series. We're gonna be seeing more of liquid
They have survived as we head back to the panel and see who's coming up next
We are going to see more of liquid in just one series time.
They get a little bit of a break in the meantime.
Team Spirit got a lot of break, especially after this series.
Because it's going to be liquid versus spirit.
A matchup that we all thought, or a lot of people thought, that we're going to be seeing
on the final day, maybe up a bracket, maybe.
No, we're reaching next.
Yeah, like the next series of the day.
Yeah, we're still going to have it just in the lower bracket, but that's hype.
I don't know how Spirit can prepare though for plot armor.
something that you don't refactor in and Liquid know how the in abundance going
into the next best of three just do they teacher has kind of their own plot armor
they do it's like they're their pot armor is the even game they win whereas
Liquid's that they're behind they win so in a battle of that is like do you want
to be behind do you want to do you want to kind of normally liquid was normally
spirit when they're behind they normally find a way back so that's what I'm
saying it's like do you want to actually want to be behind maybe counter to each
other out nobody has a way but boring game then no I thought you should have
been a game everyone's sitting in their base because they're scared to leave base
techies minds everywhere it's gonna be a good time a techies who heard of here
first well that will be the final series of the day with liquid versus spirit of
course first it is time for the upper bracket finals yandex and bedroom are
ready to start that one off and it will be Jenkins Kezu and Richard that will
I'll take you through that one.
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the top mid players. Fifth
being the worst of the best
and one being the best. Who's
in position five it's just on this tournament yes not just from the list
you see only people on this tournament we don't want to talk shit to people I
didn't make it here okay that's five it's a microta yeah all right why is that
I don't he just by good he have very good the windstage just always I play
against him he just super try hard okay super try hard plays good not good
enough to be past five by no problem how about number four okay number four
hmm maybe it's okay I'll put a lot enough number four oh okay okay lord of
mr. standing all right all right why is that I just watch him he have always
good ideas about how he play how he buying items it just very good if you
You couldn't make it to a tournament, would you tell him to get Lornoff?
Am I English not very good?
Would you be replaced by Lornoff if you had to be?
I don't understand.
Okay, no problem, we'll skip that, don't worry about it.
Next, number three.
Okay, number three, I think it's me.
You, number three, no way.
Number three, it's me.
Okay, why is that?
There's two people here better than you?
Go?
No, I think I'm just not very good.
I just need more time before I react and this time I'm gonna be number one. Yeah powering up number two. It's a roll
Okay, Laurel
That's what I'll back after he chilling. He play very good now doing very well job. Yeah vacation buff. Okay number one. It's Nisha
Nisha Nisha. Yeah. Yeah. Now. Are you sure? I mean the guy is he really that interesting?
He just plays the same two heroes every game right just pumpkin ember, right? Yeah
Alright, it's a good fucking Ember though, right? Alright, alright, okay.
Nisha got it.
Okay, Nisha got it is. Alright, well, thank you so much. I agree with your list, except for you.
You should be number one, a hundred percent of the time. Alright, and we'll see you next time.
Welcome back to PGL Valahia, we're going to have a hard job to beat the theories we've
just seen, but we're going to try here on the evening crew. I'm your host Richard Lewis.
Joining me, we have of course the great Tezu.
That's me?
Yeah, well, I'm getting sad now because our time working together is coming to an end.
It's getting cut short.
Yeah, I know. It's been great though. It has been a blast.
I agree.
A personal hero of mine.
It's not been a blast.
And Andrew, it's been okay.
You are very cold. I think you're nervous.
I tend to be nervous, especially when I sit next to you.
We're getting close to the grand finals. It is we're getting close to the end
You know I enjoy working with Richard and I watch I mean, I am I see that I'm not that old
Oh, you're warm. Yeah, I'm always he's nervous to that. He's a little bit of nervous several layers
I feel like this guy he's quite chill. He might be too chill. Some might say some might say that I'll tell you who isn't chill
Teen yandex they've been very unsure. They've been powering up as the tournament goes through their opponents bet boom
sort of doing the same. We're essentially looking at the two momentum teams that are in this upper brackets and very surprising. I do want to start by focusing on Janbeck's though because I just think this story is amazing. And it's so typical of a Valahia that we get this surprise team. You look at the roster, you go well, you know, okay, they're going to be.
It's the socks of plus four.
You know, can they do wrong?
Wrong, correct.
And you can see this is the journey that they've had.
They've beat some heavy hitters,
none more so than Team Liquid that we saw in action just now,
showing how good they are.
That was devastating, may I say.
Yeah, I know.
Let's just talk about that for a second.
The impossible comeback.
Well, Yandex 2-0 that team.
So that's how good they are.
No, like Yandex, of course, they look incredible.
I do want to say, like, just for a short moment,
I think heroic that loss is definitely gonna hurt. I think you might as well
He played really well in both those games and giving that one up like I can just
Emphasize, you know, well, like that empathize emphasize, you know
Emphasize your empathy. That's what I'm doing. That's why you hear Jenkins lock that in what you're so cold
Thank you for the English back to you Richard. Right. Why don't we talk about some things we might see coming up in this series
We're gonna start with you
Gen Kazooi. Apparently, Oracle is sort of back and doing interesting and cool tech.
Yeah, we saw Oracle get picked with, what was the combo with Oracle?
It was picked against Batrider, right?
Yeah, it's essentially accounted about right.
But then we saw Oracle get banned and there was no bat in the game and we're like,
what is this? Where did this come from?
And it turns out it's just good.
And I wanted to look at one of the more underutilized or under, I guess,
thought about concepts when it comes to Oracle.
And it's this innate ability where
you're able to predict the runes for your allies.
And this is something that Beppum has played around
incredibly well, which, by the way, I
was digging into their replays last night,
because if a team is getting this far,
if a team is doing this well, there
are some secret tech that they're using.
The teams are so close right now that you
have to be utilizing something to get that little advantage.
So here we have six minutes in.
Of course Oracle is going to go to the room, but what I think is really cool is with Void Spirit, you can just pop a Remnant on the room and you cannot contest it.
You're literally going to run into the Remnant, right? So it's kind of a cool combo there.
So with the Regen rune, he blasts out the wave, in particular on the Catapult wave, and then he walks towards bot and uses the Regen rune.
And I want you guys to look at where his camera positioning is. He keeps looking back at Laurel, even pinging Laurel, showing that, like, hey guys, he's dealing with the Siege wave mid.
So it means at the 7 minute mark, he's able to show up to the wisdom shrine fight, which in a lot of these games has been hugely deterministic of who wins the game.
It doesn't go exactly that well for Beplum, they do lose their carry, but he gets a trade.
And then here we have on the next rune spawn, 8 minutes of course.
GPK pushes the lane out first, so that way Laurel is having to deal with this creep wave, and it's not really comfortable for him to get the rune.
not really comfortable for him to get the rune. Of course the supports are going to help here
to get the rune and then he gets a haste rune. This is like one of the most devastating runes you
can get. And I omitted a kill there by the way. He did kill the jikiro without the haste but with
just his supports being there. So he pushes the lane out again with the haste and then heads towards
bot and avoids spirit with the haste rune. It's one of the most like devastating rune hero combos.
There's so much threat on the map. There's an insane amount of threat. Honestly there's like
Very few runes that you can come up with where there isn't a ton of threat with this hero
And I omitted them getting the rune for this one, but he is using the DD
This was the next room that he got and he kills Panto not only that does he go top
But he looks to like double utilize the rune and to go bot
So collapse doesn't die to this game because he's a two-time GI winner
But GBK is like putting this pressure on the map where with these runes
He is in the most annoying place at the most annoying time to apply the most amount of pressure
And this is a crazy stuff.
And in the game, Laurel got one frickin' runeman on puck.
Like, come on, of all the heroes in the game,
it's like Stormpuck that desperately need the runes.
So in a way, Oracle is countering puck
if you're playing around the runes.
And it's especially true if you're
going for the Oracle Void Spirit combination,
because then the Void Spirit's countering puck,
the Void Spirit can secure the runes with the remnant.
And I just thought that was a really cool thing.
Remember, without a coach as well, as we've highlighted in the past.
They're sort of coming up with this stuff by themselves.
No, for sure. And it's just like, because you're already saying, you know, like,
Void for it's already good and Oracle adds like all these layers, you get all the runes.
And also, like, you know, just looking at the player perspective of the player,
like, I think the best players, when you give them something, whether it's small or big,
because runes, they matter a lot.
And you can also tell from how much he's looking around, he's really utilizing it,
I would say, to like the biggest level possible.
Sure, you know, you pointed out collapse, he dodges again,
but have the other players they will probably die through it or even then you're forcing him like away from the moment
So I think it's just it's honestly like a really cool combo
And it is so fun to watch these guys draft right now just because I feel like since they don't have a coach
They're kind of picking their like favorite heroes and their specialty heroes. So Katomi one of those of course is Oracle
He's always been a really good Oracle player. So, you know, it probably was him that came up with these concepts
I would imagine we saw a couple of
of Necrofuses, Necrofi, if you will.
And sometimes it goes well, sometimes it doesn't.
But it's one of Miro's favorite heroes,
GPK also for some reason, like he has had patches
where he does play it a lot.
And I think this is something that it can be a double edge
sword where you're either griefing your own drafts,
but you can also do things that subvert the meta.
And that's what's winning right now.
If you can figure out how to beat Largo, SF, Batrider,
these types of heroes, like that's a tournament winning draft.
Yeah, absolutely.
And Yandex have had moments like that of their own.
I mean, I think what's been great is just watching,
you know, kind of how explosive they've been in general,
you know, Watson's popping off.
Everyone's doing their job to such a high standard.
And one of the things you wanted to highlight
is just elite level understanding of how to move around the map.
Yeah, like they do so many cool and clutch things.
Like here, first of all, you're a lunar blessing.
You're really good if a lot of heroes are like at the same place.
You also, you know, Saksa, again, I want to highlight him and DM, like their relationship, even though, you know, they're not actual teammates, you know, DM is a stand-in, but they're slotting it in very well.
Saksa goes to the bottom line because you have DM. He's in the off lane against the Warlock, you know, it is one of the weaknesses of this hero.
Warlock is not really good at moving around, so he can leave him, he goes bottom, they go against A, get a triple kill, you can just see, like, you know, DM, he's just chilling, he's some retaliate guy in, like, this top lane.
And here, also, this is super cool, like, some of the first moves in the game, all their player perspectives, you know, they're looking a lot, look already down bottom.
The fight just broke out, they're already double moving to the gate, the puck is immediately
keeping in.
It's also very important that Sox is the guy that gets gone on first because he is snowball.
He can delay this entire engagement, then your puck teeps in, you get the coil, you stampede,
your other two bros are coming around, and it's just like very simple, it's not like
a super complex move, but it's like combining all your heroes very nicely, and then here
this is later in the game.
Malady has super cool wards, like this ward even though it's in sentry range, they don't
actually see it.
Is this a quelling blade ward?
It was a quelling blade ward.
And he loves this side.
Just what they said up, you know, they go in with the silver edge and they immediately kite back.
You see Watson, he's like moving out and I'll pay attention to Estee.
You have Jiro Juniors, who in a moment you see him on the bottom on the puck.
He's only going on boxy in the back line because he knows that if he's zoned out ace here in the front line,
he's just gonna get cooked by the Lunar. He pressed his BKB, Malady as well.
He has an agonim scepter already, which is just cutting through them.
Snowball to furthermore delay and delay.
And it's all these small things like Watson wouldn't live here with 200 HP.
He does end up going down, but at the same time, you know, Nisha
had to give his life for it. So it's all these small things that really like work into one another,
whether it's how much gold you get on your support, how you're moving socks around,
what vision you have, you know, with what you pointed out with the Quelling Blade,
like you need to be ready for the small things because if you're not,
they're going to bleed into a way bigger moment. Yeah, I want to do a quick PSA about the Quelling
Blade tech. I really do believe this is like the tranquil boot stuff where for years it's been good
and for years you just should be doing it. It's just that it wasn't really necessary. So nobody
like adapted the play. It was like boxy for a long time. It was only him. But it looked good when
he did it. And I think people understood how good it was. I believe the Quilling Blade tech is the
same thing. Like every pause five should do this. It's just something that people haven't deemed to
be necessary. But I think you said this yesterday because of that, like all the teams are so close
in terms of just individual skill that what is making the difference nowadays to work out that
little tiny advantage that could be turned into a snowball are these very fine details. You know,
these small things that you're doing to make the difference. And so we turn our attention to the draft
and just so you know, Bed Boom, this is what they ban, the four big heroes. The classics, the big four.
The classics, the big four. And what that means is Watson can just lock in that super strong TA.
Yeah, but what I see here, because this reminds me of a movie, they should pick the panda man,
Brue Masser. Right. So if they lock in the Kung Fu Panda here against the TA, I think that would
would be quite good. It's a good closing pick. I think Miero plays it well. But of course
there's many options. You can have your Phoenixes, you can have your Brewmaster, there's Warlock
in the pool. So you have a lot of good heroes, but we've seen the first pick, TA. Answer
it. For now, it's just going to be a casual Shadow Demon.
Is it a particularly good matchup into TA? I wouldn't say so.
It's pretty normal, right? Because I think also like TA is actually one of the carriers,
like even if you disrupt her, or like if you ulti her, if her fraction is up, you can like
Yeah, she can still blink so overall I think it's just a hero that they value a lot
Maybe it's like a lot of if we pair this with the other heroes and they become strong enough that they can run and like onto the TA
Because the one-to-one matchup. I don't think here gives a hoot
Yeah, that's that's kind of what I was thinking. I mean
There's a lot of the time that we see
First picks like this where it's just a kind of vanilla. Yeah, and it's usually the case when it's the supports like the jacquero's
Phoenix's shadow demons of the world I guess you can argue something like a Phoenix would be you know good here because it's
Good against TA you can take off the refraction, but it's like you said
I really do feel like they're like kind of both blocking the SD and picking it for future picks like for instance if
They want to go for like a Luna or something like that. You know then you have SD Luna
There's like all the you know centaur plus SD combo
There's a lot of good SD combos in the game right now.
And we have seen the rise of Luna.
I think the heroes looked very strong, actually.
We've seen it win multiple times, even in the game early today.
You more drop a 20 and one bomb.
It's not random.
When you do see the stuff come out, maybe it's new items
that are making heroes better and other offlaners that pop up
because Luna, she can buy the Silver.
You already mentioned her with the SD.
That's already a cool combo.
There's a lot to keep in mind here, I think, for Yandex.
I mean, I would say the biggest reason we've seen Tia lose some games is because she either went up against like, I think Medusa in like one or two games, maybe a TB in like another one, because...
That boom actually that did the Medusa, I think.
Yeah, so like, you know, if that's something you want to run back, you absolutely can.
Yeah.
You can ban out the Oracle.
Yeah, that's a, once again, it's cool to see how these things develop.
Super happy you dedicated all that time.
Yeah.
That's great.
Thank you, Yandex.
Yandex.
keep it up because actually it was Yandex who did a very similar thing the other day I mean like you
just mentioned they were the ones that did the Medusa into the TA and I think like they picked
the SD like very early on that then the enemy team also couldn't have the SD into the Medusa.
So maybe that's something you know BB looked at but you know this is gonna go for the SD into
Sardar can be flex overall I like the Phoenix ban it would be quite annoying for the Sardar
himself no matter what core role he's playing. Also blocking the Sardar plus TA which I think we saw
spirit run. If the double minus armor looks incredibly good in particular for taking a
super early Roche, even like 10 to 15 minute Roche you can do. So it's something that on
dire feels very good. So blocking that is solid.
So for Yandex, Warlock is a classic. I would say if you look at Soxa, Rasta and Tiny are
the heroes he has played the most. I think they're both quite good. I think also having
hero who like innately has like some built-in form of armor as a support against Sardar is pretty
nice which Tiny of course does have. I wouldn't really see it as like a strong flex in this game
because sure while Core Tiny also has armor against Sardar you actually get overwhelmed quite a bit
by it. So you mentioned the Warlock, I think that's a cool pick. And Warlock Tiny is a pretty nice
support duo, I think they like cover for a lot of things that each other lack. And you mentioned
the Shadow Shaman and maybe that's part of why the SD is first pick as well because there's a
a lot of heroes that don't like playing in the SD that you know single target single target
disables like Shadow Shaman you kind of block that stuff out even even in the tiny if you can like
he goes in for some avatars back you can disrupt that. So I want to see if your BB team what do
you lock in here maybe. Oh I was thinking maybe they go for the another camp because then
and Anti-Mage could come out, you could do TA mid.
So, think of a Gyro.
I do like that, because I think it's nice
if you can keep this flex open between the Slardar.
So, you are looking at a carry who is semi-good,
even blind, it's like a Windranger,
or here with the Gyro task, I think it is very solid.
It's a tiny four.
So, most likely, I think what Yannick should be looking
for here is also an Offlaner
who gives you some type of teamfight.
I don't love Centaur overall into Slardar,
but I think this is the type of hero.
You're kind of looking at because most range offlaners they get owned by gyro delane
What about the brew for them? It's like does he get too owned by gyrocopter and lane to to justify?
I mean brew tiny's if it's sus as well
I mean that the lane is not good, but I think the lane is I mean the game overall is good
Because you're good against like the sardar and the SD
I think also with like brew has a 15 talent where his broolings get like more HP nowadays
You build the axe so that your brew like the split is a lot more tanky than it used to be
So gyro doesn't that counter you that much in the game anymore. This is a very good storm pick though into
Tusk SD if storm thing comfortably gets six. There's just not really much that
threatens him at all. There's no good disable, but that boom does have 24 pick and
You know, it's a storm versus
GPK, so you have to ban puck. I think you probably have to ban huskar as well. I
I think so it does make it would make that booms draft a little weird
But I feel Kaskar always makes your draft a little weird and you're just banking on like you're gonna destroy this guy
So heavy and lane that it doesn't matter the draft is a bit weird
Yeah, you have good lanes like Toscan like then also like lead to gyre eventually he goes mid
So at least for now they ban out the centaur I mean Yandex overall to like complete their draft
I think an off-lating like a off-lating team fighter is pretty good. You mentioned the brew they took out the centaur for now
Tied I would not like it's not a good lane against gyro. There's an SD eventually to break you as well
In what else is up in DMs wheelhouse?
He's played darks here before this all pretty bad bristle is fine
It's like SD slaughter they really lack disable if you if you go bristle
But I feel like every time bristle gets picked up. That's the case for the team, you know
You know?
VVT!
Bristle could work. You can also like, it's a quite good Crimson game.
Heroes who build, I think like physical mitigation are quite good here,
because you have Slardar, you have Gyro.
You don't really have the guy that goes in yet.
So like, because Tiny isn't just going to randomly get like a blinked tossback.
When Storm isn't just going to magically get this zip off, you know, that's good.
So I think it's a very nice call on the Bristle.
A band of Bristle. What do you think about Doom? Just like hard counter to Gyro?
gyro yeah because I know like this hero is just the worst for gyro players to
play into maybe it's a little different with the builds these days but like a
lot of the time gyro is just a you run in you say Tannac you healed full HP like
you kind of get that second life and doom preventing that is one of the more
annoying things in the game but then you're playing into like tusk can really
punish you in lane but it's so hard to come up with something that conceptually
beats Tusk Gyro. Yeah, I think I mean you're not beating them in lane. I think
that's for sure. I mean I don't love the dude. I think it's a bit too slow. I mean
maybe you can just make up for it because of the other things. Oh, that's pretty
good. Yeah, that's really good actually. Has brother bear won a game yet? Yeah,
that's the question. No, no. That's not could be the first. It's at least you
know, it's overall he's nice against gyro. You know, he's all the split damage.
You lower his damage. If you aura, you can build a crimson. Also roots can be
quite annoying. Like if you get an axe later, Husk can save for snowball.
First time with Yandex picking it too. Yeah, I mean he's a great underdog.
Of course. I would be really scared of the Huskar right now if I was Yandex.
Like what on their side deals with the Huskar mid? I mean not much. You have to kind of sack
mid or you have like a tiny that can go over and like maybe have some sort of counterplay.
I mean, GBK was talking a lot, so I would also just assume that it's kind of his pick.
You just played a starter offline. I mean, you won't pressure the TA, but you know,
this, you've kind of set yourself up for it.
Not much. Actually, I'll just say nothing has beat TA in lane so far.
Like they're, they're legitimately, I think you beat her at the later stages in the game.
Like with Faceless Floyd, Gyrocopter is a, is a pretty smart option as well.
That's always been very good against TA.
I mean are we missing anything? I mean the spirits at least they're fine themselves but they do suffer
also at least a little bit against Underlord which is I think another layer of why this pick is
kind of annoying for a bedroom here. I guess Queen is also okay well there it is yeah that's the
risk. That's the risk of picking a draft like this so now my question is what sort of weird tech
are they going to use to try to deal with the Huskar mid?
Like there's got to be wave cutting, there's got to be early boots,
potentially supports going mid and Storm going jungle.
Like you can have Warlock go mid and just fatal bombs the wave,
push it out and Storm goes jungle.
But there has to be something.
It cannot be unanswered in the game.
Otherwise, Huskar will go on a tear.
Yeah, I think so too.
Especially also, I think that Bedroom have had these games
or GPK has had these games where, you know, he played this matchup
and then like overplayed or his supports aren't ready.
But this time around, he has a task, or an SD, you know.
If they're on the money, they're like,
yo, Tiny is missing, Sox is going mid.
If either of them are ready, they can just back him up,
or even turn it around and get the skill.
So I think overall, I like what BedBoom have here quite a bit.
I wasn't too sure about their answer to TA,
but I think they have a lot of tempo in their entire draft.
And for Yandex, it's really about somehow
tempo controlling GPK in this early game.
Because if he gets off to a good start,
I think they are in for a bad time.
There is tech, I mean, I'm sure Chira has seen what Nisha does with the career.
Yeah, and that's kind of only enabled by the Marci-ish.
I think it's fine to do it without Marci.
You just have to wait until you have the flying career, which happens pretty quickly when you're mid and getting all that XP.
So it is an option, like something needs to happen.
I'll ask what our commentators think.
We've got B-COP and CRO-COP. How are you doing guys? You all good?
Yeah, they're good. That was a good one, Rich. Yeah, I think this needs to be addressed.
I think they might need to actually dual lane mid at the start, but because DM, he's
in his history, he's known to be left alone multiple times, but maybe not on a hero like
an underlord. It might be a difficult for him, but they definitely need to do something
about this mid lane, otherwise they're going to get it.
Yeah, how often have you seen this matchup and how does it usually go?
I go is really bad real quick. Yeah, that's how I remember it to
We still got time you can you can I was gonna chip in something
You know, you know what he does?
It's like you've got to give him you've got to bring him in you've got to bring them in though
I just like listening to like us. It's I get lost in his eyes and we all do. Yeah, that's fair
He does look a little bit like Robert De Niro. I've always said that he's get that Robert De Niro
I don't see it there. It is
There it was, there it was.
Is that him? Is that Robert De Niro? Forget about it?
Forget about it.
Don't ever do that again.
Hua!
Stick the cast in, put the fries in the bag, put the game in the bag. Bye.
Hua! Ready for game number one. Is that...
Is that... That's Al Pacino maybe? I don't know.
Whatever.
I just say...
I really like listening to you speak with cast. Back to you.
Thank you. Thank you for that.
Yeah, we want to see the tech, what they're going to be doing.
I also think that Underlord, straight up, not going to have a good time in the lane.
You are playing against Jarocopter with the Afterburner, and you're also playing against
Tusk5 with the drinking buddies.
This is the strat that we introduced facets, I think like two years ago, it became very
popular.
We're still seeing it here and there, and I think Katomi is one of the better Position
5 Tusks.
This hero trades really well. He has five armor, has really good move speed as well, and also just stats on the hero are pretty nice.
He gains good amount of strength and becomes super tanky early on.
We can see that Soksov is going to be starting with the boots, which means they don't want to be playing this lane.
They want to be trying to drag the creep wave and all eyes on Chira Jr.
CJ, let's see what he can do in this matchup.
Yeah, definitely. He's been having a good
Torturement so far. I've been really impressed with what he's been able to accomplish
So it's gonna be his biggest test up against this Oscar, which does worry me a little bit safe
Spotted and here with that avalanche shadow word on him there, too
And they'll disrupt maledict trying to run away from these two heroes and they'll give up the chase
So they don't want to go for the shadow demon, but they'll put a little bit of damage on at least the start. This is
The matchup right this is really gonna be
Is it just going to be a complete shutdown? Can't you, Junior?
Find a way to make it work.
Junior immediately planting down the branch,
eating it with the tango to get extra bit of regen,
and starting to put good amount of pressure, good amount of right-clicks.
Let's see how GPK is going to do it.
One fairifier in a lot of these matchups,
you will see Huskars even get a second fairifier just in case.
Like, if you use one, you might bring a second because of that turnaround play that you do have.
See that first flood coming through safe.
Just taking that harassment to end up getting that kill and that's that aggression early from Miro using the Slytherin Crush just to get that kill.
And they were talking about it on the panel that you don't really see TAs lose their lane too much.
It's more about the later parts of the game where you're able to just kind of overwhelm and now power this TA.
Yeah, I have not seen a lane where Temporal Assassin doesn't have 5k plus 10 minutes in.
The hero just even if you're sitting at zero zero zero you're still going to be having good amount of farm very difficult to push out of the lane
Because of refraction you have one of the stronger position fives in the lane with warlock
You know he died the other assassin still got to feel very comfortable playing in this lane and you're a junior now with the burning spears being online
He's going to start to feel the pressure
Burning quite low and already sitting here at about
15% of his health left. That one's going to be an uphill miss, but GPK is sitting at that level three and just making sure that this storm
struggles to step in and get these last hits.
Not an easy lane, not an easy time, and it'll be about the recovery potentially for this storm spirit if it continues this way.
And
wondering when GPK is going to start to
be active or what the decision-making is going to be here for him, because you don't want to get
started too early where you've got this advantage in lane but you've gone and
jumped off the diving board a bit too early you end up dead and then that
advantage kind of dissipates pretty quickly. It's not a traditional mid laner
by any means this hero doesn't really rotate he wants heroes to come to his
lane and then he wants to continue to farm up because the hero farms extremely
fast he wants to be in the triangle get his armlet and then we might see you
know Zanj go for the Roche maybe afterwards and they have the tools to go
for early roast. You have Slaughter, you have Hustar, so two big objective takers already.
And the good starts for Slaughter as well, 15 and 3. Usually you don't see Slaughter on
top of the network. The Offlane Slaughter from the mid lane, he can definitely pop off.
But from the Offlane, the heroes sometimes struggle, like getting the levels, getting
stuff done at the early stage, doesn't have that much damage, but off to a good start
with that first blood, extra bit of a gold coming on from killing Borlok.
just continuing to farm on this gyrocopter and the build has not been the
axe for quite some time. It's been a lot of these smaller items that you were
talking about in previous gyro matchups. What made that change more prevalent is
it just from getting that axe first, as looking over and seeing that bottom lane
kind of open for them. DM not exactly putting the pressure on the Keppo me as
well as this gyro. Ah DM farming okay 14-5 good amount of denies. When we look at
the like physical damage output that they do have on Yandex, it's Templar
Assassin and also good amount of right clicks coming out from Underlord which
should be okay in theory against Gostkar. They want to go for him down bottom and get
back to on the carriage. DM is coming in and starting with Pit of Malice fire
Storm didn't think the damage could be there with Katobe if he was there to get the save but
Doesn't have snowball at the moment and was unable to pull him away from the avalanche as well as the toss with that pick
Didn't work out
Now cheer junior just kind of sitting here, but doing well. I feel like well for what we expected from him, right?
Only two CS behind, but there are a lot of denies
For gpk, but he's not in a bad spot overall. Definitely not. He also brought the boost of speed as his first item after the bottle
knows that he needs to run away, does have Bounter Room to work with, so he's going to go deeper in the jungle, replenish that bottle, maybe get the stack going before he goes and picks it up.
Gonna add...
Stack being made on 5, like you said, get that bounty, get some more potential into that farm, and make sure you can at least kind of keep up with this Huskar who now sits top of the CS chart, 27 and 16.
DM, we've talked about it, Scott Sox is still here, but we've talked about how he is not
really always had a support that sticks in lane in previous teams in his career.
But now he's got Sox.
What is this?
Like I've not been used to seeing, because a lot of the times he's left alone.
You see position fours leaving, he's getting the solo XP, we saw a try lane from Yandex
the other day where he was playing alone in one-on-one situation and I think
these are the type of situations where DM shines the most.
Miro stepped forward into the shadow ward, he's got eight churches on that wand, he's also got a Lotus.
Not too worried, he just kind of eat this shadow ward for the moment.
But has the ability to heal up, continue to stay in the lane and continue to see us quite well.
Shutting down the Sardar could be a chance for Yandex to expand if they're able to do so, but we are getting to that 6 minute mark where now the Enviz Gruden has been picked up by save.
They're also looking over probably for that 7 minute shrine.
Over mid-sankos and the disruption drinking buddies there. The shards to block in Sot, so they've got the toss.
The OT dropped by GPK to get a quick one onto the tiny.
And they've pressured this storm out of the lane, so just having creeps pushing on the Tier 1 tower,
then blocking that camp for being stacked and allowing Storm to kind of make up some more farm inside his own jungle.
All he needs is level 6, then he's gonna be okay, the more you can be dodging the spells.
They don't have that much lockdown, especially early on.
You have Silence coming up from Huskar, which is not online yet, he did not go for it.
So one point of silence is relatively good duration to be able to maybe land a second spell.
And XP shrine battle this time around it's not gonna happen. They did make a move to the mid lane
Which means that two supports from Bed Boom team not gonna be able to pressure too much
Too bad for both
You're getting that
Shrine and then I'll push in closer to the corrosive ease toss avalanche out of the tower snowballing
The three heroes here
Socks are gonna stay under the tower and put him back into the pit of malice by standing close enough to it
So when he hits, he's still locked up.
Not that he's getting out of that one anyway, but they do get that kill there, and they split it three ways.
Nice shared bounty to pick up.
Chur Junior just...
still looking to ultimately recover.
Not down by as much as maybe I would have thought going up against his Oscar,
but still could have been a bit of an issue.
He needs to find his farm, and continue to just use this jungle to get back into the game,
as he's sitting where the Sardar is, and Sardar CS-wise was looking good too,
but he's towards the bottom in a corner at worth there as well.
Kaka only playing super aggressive, going underneath the tower.
I mean, with the tossback, but also snowball is not going to be as effective.
The root mechanic is something that he doesn't like to play into.
Like maybe you get the snowball, there's going to be a pit,
there's going to be Agadim, set your pit later on,
which means that it's not going to be as effective
and your blink dagger from position five is not going to come in as quickly.
Socks up, using his full combo to toss him in, get the raindrop charge, consume one, and then
maybe trying to look for something in this bottom lane.
Maladich, soaking up the XP, has one black remore, which is going to push him towards level six,
but they need someone else to come in. DM just got level six, but doesn't have a point in fiendscape.
We've been seeing this more and more. Lane's just not giving up as much to Warlock,
like being very hyper aware to not give those extra grimoires early on in the game,
and then they're forced to kind of pop it closer to six because they don't have as many in that,
that chaotic offering slower in some minutes. Yeah, usually you don't see this. This is pretty much
giving XB, like offlane, lane to Warlock so that he can get some XB to get himself to level six.
You might see him in the top lane, like in the safe lane tower, trying to collect some,
Maybe in the mid lane if mid laner is making no rotation, but from the off lane
It's really not that common now the twin gate rotation. They're trying to potentially
Get a wraparound on the Miero and save
Not the easiest kill to get
Miero has 12 wand charges, but catacombs ring comes in
They've also got the avalanche into the toss they'll pop that wand on the run shadow where he's there, but
They cannot get Miro out, that Shadow Word doing the last tics to get that kill, and
X good movements to take out this Sardar and slow down his farm, not a hero that really
farms too efficiently.
So Sox is still on it as the toss back towards his team who are sitting under the tier one
tower and both heroes are going to die as they dive to tier one.
And that's going to be the tower.
Very nice move from both of the supports on Yandex.
Maybe that looked pretty simple.
And they have themselves this 2000 net worth lead.
This is all kind of without the storm initially.
And he's still bottom of the core net worth.
He's still trying to make everything kind of work out.
And they're showing that in these sidelines.
They don't exactly need him to be fight ready immediately.
T.A. is stealing some of his Troubles now as it's going as they have a fight over a bottom that will throw the snowball his way
But top lane Watson just burned up GPK came over to help out ball hanging in care just trying to get the damage up to T.A.
Before he's in trouble with the Avalanche and the toss they'll take this Jarrah's life
look for Kethomie who drinking buddies over to the Cree and
Move over with these shards still alive to get under the tier one tower
So he gets back to that Siege creep with drinking buddies
just skirts out, makes an escape.
On the other hand, it's very difficult to kill in these early engagements
because you are maxing out your Atrophy Aura.
That's 30% reduction and you don't have enough.
If you run out of mana, if you don't have Rocket Barrage,
it's going to be extremely difficult to kill.
Also, Chipped Vest, until he picked it up relatively early on,
you return 30 damage to heroes every single time you hit
and also reducing some of that damage.
damage. So it does feel very nice that this was also pretty vanguard. So that's got to
be some extra bit of a damage block. I'm not from him. DM, immediately buying into aura.
You are playing against Slardar. You are playing against Gyrocopter. So Crimson Guard's value
is going to be through the roof.
From what you've been seeing with Underworld, why is it that you think he's yet to win a
game in this tournament?
I think he has some really bad matchups. I think also the popularity of Silverage is also like we could see it.
And I'm not sure which teams did play Underlord, but it could also be the losing team that did try to force it.
It was very popular during the previous couple of tournaments, and the meta did slightly change.
Let's see if he finds success going for that Crimson Guard, having this early lead.
Yeah, we saw teams not being afraid to pick heroes like Luna, which is very good against Underlord.
Monkey King is one becoming more popular from the safe lane here and there.
Socks up so far. He's been doing a very good job.
He's been very active in the world in every single kill. Getting a decent amount of farm.
Does have Soul Ring, raindrop. That's going to be his mana sustain.
And also does have Ash Legion Shield, Mystical.
So extra bit of mana region coming up from that one as well.
Well, GGK wrapping around looking for Watson.
Shards locked in this Templar assassin
with a chaotic offering.
No snowball.
What brings in GPK?
They go to the call-down to WP of Alice.
They've been skated into this one.
But GGK's into no trouble.
They'll get that kill on a hit with a little blue Zing Watson
as well as Maladage.
And Tier Junior doesn't have a lot of mana
to throw back at the way of Betboom.
The chase, though, is on, popping these traps,
slowing these heroes down on Betboom
as they try to retrieve from the Tier 1 tower.
Tier Junior, despite not having the mana,
was still moving forward with the Golem and DM,
but they both just don't have the mana to really punch back that hard.
As they try to take the golem for a hundred gold, Kiritich will claim a hundred that is dropped by it.
And they do get themselves a bit of a victory despite the fact that they lose GpK.
Two for one trade, the Storm, as I said, didn't have that much mana to work with in that fight.
They were trying to reset one more time, Sox's abilities were coming off cooldown
with another toss, with another avalanche, if they managed to have extra bit of mana on Storm Spirit.
could have gotten maybe one, even two kills out of it.
Now Nero has that blink dagger initiation available.
Could use that where they jump in and have the save, not only the snowball, but also the disruption.
Coming into the 14 minute shrine, save's gonna pick up one.
The other one is still available and wants anything going over there, but there's the GVK jumping.
Coming through with that by breaking, getting a kill easily on a maladitch, even with Chirgineer.
Showing up to try and defend
Very nice thinking from GPK. Usually you see no boots upgrade sometimes power threats
Can you get the fun? Yes, they can
Get that kill and Sapsa heritage is also here. They're moving as a unit
This is something we've seen that moon do continually through the tournament bring the numbers exactly
They just love to bring for bring five to every single engagement and to go back to the GPK's atomization
He didn't pick up faceboots, wants to have extra bit of armor playing against Templar Assassin, even against Stormstrip, who deals good amount of right click damage.
And of course, Underlord, Metrophiora, Maxed Out, sometimes you'll see the hero come in and have 300 plus damage.
So far so good for that boon team.
I've seen that Underlord kind of fall down the net worth chart, but...
The supports are a big difference on the game at the moment. It is the dire supports that have smoke from Yandex.
They are gonna smoke together, move over towards bottom lane, and try to get a patch on a heritage.
They'll even beanscape. Both might be in trouble. This will pull heritage into the snowball, but they've got the demow, so they're gonna kill.
So he's dead, but you're a jigger. He falls to a heritage beforehand.
That means they end up trading there, but Tethiomy is the plus one that is queen by Maladish.
The index trying to expand the area where they can get to farm this smoke
It's gonna expand like spandex does they are gonna be able to take the tower
They're gonna be able to get to another entry potentially to the twin gates as well and that boob team
They understand that will this move they're still gonna be able to get some kind of a trade and that's gonna be Roshan
This is relatively early Roshan 16 minutes in
Very early Rosh and an agent to work with
And we talked about the corrosive haze and the early Huskar potential for Roche.
As they've got five minutes to now make a move.
We'll see what they want to do to continue to shut down maybe the Storm Spirit who's
struggling.
Yeah, they got that kill over bottom.
And it was Storm involved, but he still dies, he still tumbles down a little bit more.
2G, still looking to recover the net worth, but he is having that impact when he can.
Definitely a hard match for him to play into, still doing okay-ish.
Now 7am, he applied damage into the bottle, and 2PK, he killed Maladich one more time
in no man's land.
Trying to set some vision for the team.
This, like, because he didn't upgrade his robot magi, at least now, Warlock's item build
looks so fancy.
He's got to get drums.
He loves to build drums, but right now the courier was delivering it, so had our cane
boots, robot magi, and windlace.
Now he's got the drums, so he's going ghost scepter next.
He just wants to try and survive it.
Multiple times he has been picked off by GPK.
That's why the tip came out as well.
I think that's like the third or fourth time that she became self has killed this warlock who has died five times just 17 minutes in
You can see he is looking to a
Hope to live maybe a little bit longer that gives him the opportunity to give the level four shadow
We're on an ally and even drop that chaotic offering so anything to kind of survive just a touch longer
GpK, SNY completed, we'll have extra slow resistance, extra status resistance on top
of that and we've seen good amounts of Crimson Guards from Huskars.
It's pretty similar to what the Wipers have been doing, Razors from the mid lane as well
if necessary, even Huskars lately starting to pick it up, realizing that this item makes
She's super tanky.
Wolf prepared to itch.
Fall aiming for Tex.
However, he is still alive trying to run, getting some help with Pavis.
Walrus punch up into the air, Chura Jr. dead again.
Just doesn't quite have the damage to get the kill there on to the gyro comp.
Socks it, trying to get out and he'll blink.
But will they find him if they continue to chase?
They are on his tail.
They are trying to find Socks as he'll go towards this Twinge.
But instead, the arrow will farm the creep wave instead of going for this tiny initially
and now finds him? No, they blinked and kind of missed each other inside the trees.
TP attempt first hit bash, of course it is.
It's always ready, lock to load it, and they are going to lifebreak.
That does not disjoint, so GPK goes on a little bit of a rocket ship trip.
And catches Soxa.
They need to bring the numbers.
They need to be able to have this Templar Assassin join the fights,
but it doesn't seem like Watson wants to join every single fight.
Needs to be careful once he gets initiated on he's gonna die compared to keratich who has good save behind him this
Tusk has been a pretty good job using drinking bodies using snowball as well and something that we didn't talk about is
the combination between tusk and huskar
The we can call it tuskar. That's the old name for tusk
Where you are getting 110 damage with that insane amount of attack speed that you have just getting
huge value out of it. Oh
Always good to just take a drink. Always drink with your friends.
Never alone.
GPK.
We're gonna be happy to just continue to farm and go for this Crimson.
So he's gonna be here with Kethil only quite a bit.
There's this...
Honestly, offensive defense is kind of parrying.
You can play at both sides.
But what's the answer for that from Yandex? How do you shut that down?
Their lineup is still pretty strong. You did mention
at the start, underlord with agonim scepter, with Q-pit of malice. It makes it very difficult for you to maneuver in the middle of a fight.
They're going to wait out until Aegis expires, which is going to be in a minute.
Templar assassin still doesn't feel a fight ready.
Linkdagger, they have the trap upgraded, so extra bit of a silence, extra bit of a control in the fight.
Speaking of shards, this is going to be a shard for Kethomie, so he's got the upgrade on shards.
I don't know how many times I could say the word shards, but the shards have just been upgraded by the shard.
And 30 seconds left on this ages, so then you have time to kind of make a move with a second life for GPK.
It does require them to kind of cross the river, they haven't exactly been playing too deep.
They're very willing to kind of take the fights on their end, or maybe a little bit across,
cross but using this time to continue to farm and get a couple of bitams under
their belt. That being said, Kiritage gets chased for a second, he's fine, has that
man to has a good amount of health to work with. And I like that Kiritage is
playing a bit more active, he is joining some of these earlier engagements, so
knowing that he doesn't necessarily need to be like the real carry of the team,
you have really good scaling mid, you have great scaling off lane as well, and
And there's a lot of synergy between all of them.
And now with...
Ages gone, still feel like they're gonna be putting the pressure on the map.
And something interesting, also cooking for Haskar.
You've seen this type of a build on Storm Spirit before.
I think BZM was the one who kinda started it from the mid lane,
so you can have Holy Locket, which can give you that extra bit of a heal,
extra bit of a burst of a heal that you might need with cauterize.
Only rocket, we'll see how it ends up keeping the Huskar alive, but now that Crimson has
been finished with survivability for GPK.
And you're searching with this shield room, the only one nearby is this Sardar, but he's
already TPing back home.
And it's also going to amplify the amount of heal that you get from Cauterise, so we
definitely need to keep track on the heal.
It's gonna be something like Mars with the victory fast arena where you jump in and then suddenly you get a kill, you get an insane amount of heal.
Let's see if he's gonna be committing to that. I don't remember seeing this before on Huskar at least.
And it's not like it's a cheap commitment either. The recipe is kinda expensive.
Not as expensive as it was before, like it's still an expensive recipe, but you have the
slot, you have magic wand, the turn around potential is very good with armadogles, cauterize,
heal, maybe you pop the crimson guards, so you can be, it can be like very deceiving how
much damage you can take with this hero.
Sheva's guard is the work on a torture junior?
Yeah, you're right. Actually, the recipe is more costly now because it was die of them that you needed to buy before compared to crown that you need now.
1340 is kind of a bit.
It is big. It's an expensive recipe.
Also, can you guys record Lacoste saying that I was right the first time I've ever heard it in my life before?
Just need to keep that for later.
Have that one in the soundboard.
I think we're recording. It's an official stream.
You are right, you can clip that too.
Anyway, bottom lane, tiered at tier, or meled at tier with tiered at tier.
And the temple assassin not too far away, but like you said, not looking to fight just yet.
Watson trying to get completely fight ready on this one, that's going to require that
hurricane.
Pike just trying to get some distance away from these heroes, maybe if you get locked
in by shards, or if you're next to the sword, are you really going to get some distance away
from bash, crush, and honestly, there's everybody on the side of that boomer.
You don't want to be right next to it.
I guess he doesn't feel too comfortable joining the fight right now.
Even when he finishes off that mic, there's still Shadow Demon out there, so the spell is gonna be there.
If you use it on the enemy, you're gonna push yourself like a hundred range away.
It's nothing too crazy, but at least maybe it's gonna get you over the shards.
But a lot of BKB person tools on their side.
Still, BKB needed on Temporal Assassin.
Chara Jr. Sips out
Nero does have a blink tag already doesn't seems like they're gonna be able to get any kind of opening here
Last five minutes when he had that Aegis didn't exactly turn into a
Major bloodbath for
Beppu
but
There is another ocean two minutes both teams very capable of taking it and of course you've got the innate the third eye
from Templar Assassin. And they expect me making more of a move towards this second
roche. Now they've got a couple more items under their belt and can kind of defend against this.
We'll have that exact timing. Make it start to set up there. You'll have fiends gate. You have
ways to kind of get in and out of the fights, blow up these heroes. That's when we're going to have
to be very careful about how they approach this second roche. Sotsa. Actually instead it's a
silence a Slytherin cross to your junior almost day, but will TP out? Just escaping from the initial
fight from that boom and not quite getting that kill out of the store.
They needed some extra lockdown. They are checking out Roche. He's going to respawn in a minute.
We'll see if this time around, Yandex wants to take the fight. I would definitely love to get
Another round of items to process and just finished off hurricane pike. Maybe a casual Christmas will do
Let's see how tanky DM is quite taking the moment for the call down comes through the gun silo's on a DM
They'll get the kill so is everybody there and nobody really around to help out yet
If they are close, but they don't commit to helping him
DM ends up melting away and save gets credit for the kill
But he should be back close to when respawn happens for Roche and it's all about him being able to join the fight
He's got fiends gates, so they don't have to necessarily wait for him if they could just kind of poke and prod at BedBoom
And make sure that they don't take it within that small span of time of it respawning and him coming back
Yeah, he should be able to come in. This is also agonim scepter
So two pit of malice that are gonna be around with level 15 talent
Smoil you by 20% on top of that, but this tower does seem like it belongs to BedBoom team
Also, this is a good test drive to see how much time you need to be able to kill Underlord
before he gets a Dispel mechanic, before he removes that Minus Armor that is doing quite
a lot of work and immediately into Roche, but they go Underlord, he is out.
There he is, and now they'll go onto Roche.
No smokes available on the supports of Bed Boom Team.
A lot of the times you see this where they try to go for Roche and then smoke, immediately
go out when Roshan uses the roar and smoke on the other side of the map.
GPK committing in the paint, Blink toss back to the team, GPK's in trouble,
Chaotikovar gets committed but he's still not dead, he's still sitting at a little bit of life
but they've got themselves the fiends game, they go to the VIT diagram off the pit of houses,
Mat will root up and lock down this toss, they'll even disrupt him to try and save this toss
but they just don't have the ability to get him out.
It wasn't Slytherk or Krista coming from the arrow, they can throw him out and he already is going to have to buy that
Okay, they're back in. He has trouble.
Get back to it. A watch and they'll look for DM. These heroes are melting on the Andex.
GPK not being stopped. Hitting him with the get pumped kid.
You thought you had me? No, I got you. And that's going to be Huskar now combining with the rest of them to clean up this Roche.
He is extremely tanky. He is having a reaver in the previous fight.
Vampiric Enchantment, which does give him a good amount of lifesteal, pops the Crimson Guards, gets cauterized, and then gets saved for a short period of time by Kata only he pulls him in with the drinking buddies.
Socks up, they take the shrine.
So something's going their way.
You're gonna be fighting into Aegis one more time.
And I like that GPK is building into heart.
Just, he wants to be as tanky as possible, because the rest of the team can't save him,
double saving support on his side, plus also you have very good vision.
You have Slardark who's gonna be providing vision, you have Gpk in the front line,
which will make Kiritich's life much more easy.
You want to have those vision, you want to have vision in the team fight for your flak,
and to deal the damage, Miro.
Nice try.
He just again for Betboom and kind of putting it in a solid spot.
Husskar's been tinkering with the build and like he said he's committing for the heart.
It went holy lock it.
He thought about that first, then he thought about aggs, now he's going into the heart.
I wonder if he backs for any of those items, probably not going to be the holy lock.
Holy lock.
That's going to be too late.
Yeah.
But maybe the aggs?
We'll start thinking about aggoms, I'm sure for sure.
Maybe even a BKB.
This build kind of says, I don't want to be buying into a BKB, I just want to be as tanky as possible, I have enough to survive.
And he is running out of slots.
So, one slot, probably going to be Agadamceptor.
Watson, he's been struggling dealing the damage in the last couple of fights.
Going all in with the damage, even though they have BKB piercing abilities,
it still feels very difficult for him to deal the damage if he doesn't have it.
I did feel like they were lacking the damage a little bit there in going for GPK.
Because GPK was in on that with, I want to say, 15% health overall.
And he gets tossed and isolated away. It looked like that should be it.
And Underward able to fiends gate and also have that Pin of Mouse to try and keep them away from helping GPK.
But that just still wasn't enough.
They'll drop down the banner. They'll have this with the catapult. They'll jump in.
Karatich on the high ground with the help of GPK.
Hit him out of his down and just lock them up.
And you can see Soxa waiting for the trees,
waiting for their moment to jump in,
and that's exactly what they're going to do again.
They're going to try and toss him back against him on the GPK.
But he's got the science and still survived.
Fatal Bonds in the upheaval, but it's just not enough damage.
Light breaking on Soxa though.
Commit the K out of Coffring.
Nero's going to be the one who dies, actually, between the two.
The damage being done on Soxa is not going to be enough
to get the kill there just yet,
but GPK running away, finally losing that Aegis.
This is away from a good chunk of his team, and can't he get out a second time?
So he is blocked off, accidentally touches the feeds gate, and doesn't get to go through
that, now he's forced to life break in.
This is a problem for GPK, because he is dead a second time.
The rest of his team bailed.
They left him.
They understood that they don't have enough to take that fight anymore, and finally, Templar
Assassin, she manages to get the right clicks in, dealing 6,000 damage, and look at the
damage from Betgoop team, 7000 damage and one one attack from Gyrocopter. That do
support as well, didn't do much. They are saving support so they want to keep the
distance, come into a fight when things get easier for them. The rest of the team
pulled the ripcord on that really early. A little bit of an over commitment,
life-breaking deep past the parrots and you're just in a little bit too far. They
They also kinda got zoned out, to be fair.
Hit up Malice is like one of the best zoning tools when you're defending the high ground
and having two of them makes it almost impossible.
Makes life pretty tough.
And this is a way for Yandex to, despite the fact that Betboom have been controlling the objectives for some of the game,
and I say that as, of course, Soxa does get the Tourmenter shard,
You know, now it's turned around completely just off that fight.
5,000 net worth lead where Watson has given the time and space to these items to deal that damage.
Big items coming up on the supports as well. Warlock.
These level 16 Aghanim steps are ready.
Ideally, you would want to be level 20 on Warlocks.
Having 25 damage reduction for chaotic offerings. They have a good amount of physical damage, so they can still kill these golems and
Something to talk about is this GPK's atomization heart
Kind of is after we changed the way heart work where you get increased regeneration for
Percentage of your missing health. It does synergize nicely with his abilities where he drops low and I was looking at his region
It went up over 300 per second even standing close to she was oh
Scouter's putting up some big numbers.
I know I like talking about the neutrals for supports.
It's the one thing that I have been hyper focused on,
but it is Warlock trying to get a refresher
and he's held on to his tier two greedy
because tier three, he did not get greedy.
So he's sticking with that 75 GPM,
not as good as the 100 GPM,
but you can see he's holding the next neutral
because he didn't have them.
He wants this refresher as quickly as he can get.
So a little bit of bump in that GPM is going to help out.
But he's the only one who had that.
I think he's the only one who had greedy in general,
which is a little bit of a surprise,
because usually we see these supports more willing to go to it.
And I don't think the other three did.
They'll find this storm, silence, hit him out with a fiend's gate.
So now, Chir Junior is trying to ball-aiding a TP out,
burning low, but does survive.
Burning Spear is not going to be enough to help from DM to throw down
that fiends gate and mock up the heroes so they couldn't continue to chase so it
saves the life of the storm. Very clutch. Agathem Scepter plus fiends gate play
from DM and in terms of scaling like this is a very good scaling lineup from
that team it's just they need slightly more items on Jarocopter once he
finishes off that satanic. Daedalus is also completed. It does feel like the
damage from gyrocopter you're gonna start to feel it we could maybe look at the
damage numbers I feel like his damage is not gonna be the highest because he's
been focused as well it's Huskar sitting at the 12,000 damage the warlock
dealt more damage than the enemy carry but even tiny almost gyro at the 12
Huskar the 21 and this is not been the easiest gyro damage dealing game. We saw
in that fight over bottom it was a hundred and two damage. He bailed pretty
quickly and it's... that boom just kind of looking for that open space hoping to
get him more of that ability to output that damage and I do wonder coming into
the next roche because it might spawn in the next minute or so if you're giving
the agents away, it's probably going to Gyro at that point, not Hostar again.
This is kept the only caught, and maybe even the plus one.
See, he's in trouble.
Jules hit the air, called down, committed, Kirito's just coming over, the Chaotical
brings him to be committed, and they're jumping for more.
They want Kirito just to try and stand his ground without the GPK, but the Avalanche
as well as the Toss on it too, is slowing that damage down.
Vortex pulls back in GPK, they go to the pit of Malice, so he's locked up for a split
second longer, but is able to walk out before it regrabs him.
And that was the Agatom Scepter on this Warlock trying to just go that Ag's refresher build.
The Scaling Eye, this is what I like about Malovich, is that he always builds the scale.
His first item in most of the games is Drums, which is a very good stat item.
It helps your team to disengage potentially, get the chase going, good amount of boost
in terms of the overall damage output with his attack speed increase, and then he picks
sub greedy on Shakira, maybe a glimmer cape, maybe Guardian Grease, and then agonist scepter.
We saw how much of an impact yesterday he had with that axe.
And they're still not done chasing, so he could be available on him.
Woo!
Manages to blink out quicksingers.
Miara!
That's a Miara go, away from that knack.
And goes in onto Maladich.
Has the health of Kiritix get that kill, Chirichiner.
Falling in through the creep wave and out.
Don't TP away again.
that Arcane Room to work with.
You can see the game plan already for Kiritich drawn up in the queue for items.
Satanic, Agamon's Blessing, Divine Raidbeer, that is a lot of gold to have to get collected.
Yeah, this is 10,000 plus gold, probably one of the sneaking buyback there as well,
so we're talking about more, about 15,000, 50,000 gold in total.
After he finishes off that Satanic, with the second life, it's going to be much easier
for him to play the fight.
It's something that Chyro does have, is you always have the damage.
No matter what, you can always win the game off of Chyro.
Crush up two, Chards are there, four steps from Sox up.
GM's kind of left alone.
GPK is in on this one, he's burning, but they've got to hit him out of the first save.
Gg here on the back line, he gets disrupted, do they have to fall down and lock him up?
But no, they don't. They get the kill to DM, they'll take up this underlord.
He's got buyback, so can always come back into the fight with a beans gate if they want to try and kind of get this roach.
or even just try to fight it.
But they all split up off the pit, they're gonna concede a third Roche to Beku.
This time it should be going to Karatja, right?
Yeah, he's gonna be the one picking it up.
They don't, they do want to have him sieging, so basically having three lives.
Him and Haskar do have Flair's Boat as neutral item,
which is an insane amount of damage increase. You get the kill, the cooldown resets,
and seems like that boob team is going to be ready to potentially siege the high ground
to Refresher as well, available on Curentich. Aghanim Scepter completed on Haskar,
so some big upgrades that they just got in the last couple of minutes.
Come on, Refresher watch 2026 for this warlock. He still needs 2600 gold for that,
But he has swapped off the greedy, not getting as much, you know, the 75 GPM wasn't exactly what he wanted, but he got the cast range.
And that extra cast range, gonna feel pretty great for him, and especially when he's got four golems to lay down.
And keep the mana drought. You are playing with Stormspread, so give him any kind of mana that you can.
Gotta sit down some of that mana. Or give a little sip.
It tastes good and you get that mana back, you can put some more impact on it as you
almost hit 25 with this storm.
Cheer, Jinger!
He's been caught only twice this game and I want to say for a guy who's in theory with
the Huskar, shouldn't have had that great of a lane, his game has been pretty good.
Yep, and he's super thoroughly impressed.
I love the atomization from him this game going Kaiya Sange, making him tanky, then
making up Sheila's guard knowing that he's going to need that extra bit of armor.
Also, Parasma. There's a lot of synergy between Parasma, and whenever you have any kind of spell damage in the team, the Firestorm is going to hurt Firestorm fatal bonds, reducing their magic resistance by good 20%.
Oop, Nero jumps in.
Missed the crush. Not sure it's going to matter for this Warlock, now that she is dead to Kiritich again.
And now, let's stop the TP, cheer, Junior.
He's in some trouble, though. Hit the wall or his punch, his mana's kind of depleted, and he is dead.
I'm sorry, I cursed them.
This gives them a very good opening.
Minute and a half without Storm Spirit, who is one of the heroes who can actually go and try to cut the creep waves.
So this gives them opportunity to go in and try to put maybe even force flyback out of Storm Spirit.
Warlock is going to be out in 30.
Bit of malice, traps, tiny. They all need to be alive.
I'd be able to stop the push and it seems like they are going in, Kiritich, in a good spot.
I would also love to see Jem being picked up. You are playing against Traps. I need him immediately.
Where's the rest of your team? You're going to need some help. Kiritich now.
Push back and pulled in with the drinking buddies. He's lost the Aegis.
He lost that Aegis with the Satanic activated. He's got the Refresher short on his back back and he's got BKB finally.
Quick usage of the Aegis though.
CJ is looking for the opportunity. If he gets it under tossback, Storm Spirit is going to buy back and get the follow-up stun.
Let's see if they can find it.
Pidamalus with their crushed up team, team's going to be the one who's kind of isolated away from the team with the charts that came through.
Kirch is with the BKB, and the rocket barrage takes out GM. Three heroes dead because they still don't have that storm, but they lost Soxa.
The right quick damage on the GPK is not going to be felt for the moment as Watson with the hurricane pike was throwing it on, but that still is just not enough.
They buy back on Soxa. They're still trying to hold the buy back of this Storm Spirit 15 seconds to go.
the whole day, but maybe go once he's up and buyback on the Under Ward because he'll have
beanscape if he does buyback. They lose the tier three bottom, the centeraxe is going to be next,
they go to the blink, get a bit tossed, they'll buyback on the Under Ward, they still have
two seconds without the storm. GPK off to the side, that was the beanscape that was used,
Lightbreak comes in and the DM just popped back, he's solo, he needs some help!
Labeloran has the ult short on him, ball landing into the vortex, they get the count of Kataomi,
and now they'll cover it, GPK is going to be silenced, and G-Malich, Karisic getting the double kill,
looking for more Miero with the Slytherngruss
with a blink away from Watson.
Abeledge costs Miero, getting right clicked down by Watson,
but still doesn't have the damage.
Looks out of the control.
Vortex pulling back GPK, who will try to survive.
It has some help with the disruption.
But do they have enough on GPK?
No, they don't.
He's gone for 95, saved my PNex Miero in the vicinity.
Do they turn this at all?
They've got these heroes doing a lot here from Yandex.
And I think that they've given up on BedBoom,
going for any sort of play and no TP out.
Oh man, GPK.
Somebody needs to control him as well.
Other heroes, they don't have life break.
They can't really close that gap.
And if somebody blinks out, he's going to be following them.
Plus the tossback as well.
But this is a very costly fight.
Three buybacks being used by them.
Divine Rape here, queued up on Watson.
He can sell his threads, buy it, and try to force things out.
Devines from both carries are being thought about.
Aghanim's blessing for Gyrocopter.
These bit of malice are so disgusting to play against.
And then, bit of malice, you can't really enter the base, you're sitting in the middle of a fight,
and then Chura Jr., he's the one jumping the back lines, being very annoying.
Another reset, and then Soxa goes in, gets the toss back onto Miero and GPK, he's following him.
I can't really blame him, I think the key hero here is Tiny, because if he's gone, he just used the buyback.
So it's probably a good call. Rest of the team, they're not on the same page.
Retarcopter, unfortunately, didn't have too much mana to work with.
Slayer didn't have too much life, and they find that opening, which potentially opens up the game.
If they can get one more fight like this without dying, Storm also hit level 25,
looking for Sharda's role with the Overload Bounce.
Gonna be a good amount of damage between him and Templar Assassin. That's spill damage.
You're gonna feel it.
Spill damage. Dropped right on them if it's a problem that Boon need to worry about with his
Ags. Now picked up for Kiritochi, they have the damage to kind of fight back and they are looking
for the Divine Rapier for Gyrocopter. Of course he's also got Chop Chop to work with if he doesn't
want to buy it out just straight up. Is Chop Chop too broken or is this like just right? I love this
I also, when it was first introduced, we haven't seen many people that theorycraft too much with it, and still, like we've seen up to today, like we saw some like insane amount of disassembly coming out from Gyrocopter.
I think now it's been figured out, I don't think we are seeing any of the new tech, but took professional e-gamers a good amount of time to figure out how strong it actually is.
actually is. GPK, they're in, on GPK, they've got the four techs in the kill, he's gone for 95, no buyback available on GPK.
Watson, he's committing, he does have Divine Rapier ready.
Oh, Sean, it may be up in a minute, they need to be careful. Watson doesn't have that much move speed to work with.
Butterfly, all back in the days, the flutter mechanic that we had on Butterfly, that was good.
The HGV move speed, the abyssal blink stun that existed all these years.
They don't like that one as much.
Ah, that one's not as cool.
I will say, just going back to the chop shot discussion
for two seconds, you know who I wish was still playing?
God King.
He would have new tech for chop shot.
That was the guy who was the master of disassembling.
That guy, I'd like to see what he would come up with
with this gyro cop there.
That's the name I haven't heard in a while.
One day.
45 seconds.
Oscar is still dead, but there's still a minimum of 30 left on Roche potentially respawning.
It's not that only he just blinked into them, but no, that is a caught tusk.
So the brother's car, they're both dead for some time.
60 seconds on tusk, but he does have buyback.
in outputting so much for the Divine Rapier, and he's looking to go into that swift blink.
Again, he's pinning analysis this zone denial from DM. You have to commit the BTB to kind
of jump into this and make a play. Another Divine Rapier, Kerri-Tich, he is ready to go.
I also can't believe that this guy didn't change his name to Kerri-Tich. Like, if he's missing out
on the opportunity, and then if you swap for some reason and swap the roll in Dota,
They could still go with something different.
Or you could go back to Kiritich. That also sounds pretty good.
The backup name.
Play well, Kiritich.
Play not so well, Kiritich.
Hide the identity of the bad play.
So it's almost level 25.
See, experience between these two teams has got to be something significant.
It's not that much.
5 levels, 8%
Almost 25 and then Maladich, we were talking about the Ag's refresher. He is close to the refresher
And by close, I mean he's about 800 gold away from getting the recipe
No, no green evil
Double rapier and by double I mean two in the game one per team
Going into a fourth roche fight, but boom they're already here in the pit.
Got the trapped down smoke is going to be broken.
They have some information.
They've got an ob sentry, but that will be dewarded.
I don't know if that sentry, it does.
So it does see the zobbs.
They got to get there.
Also, on Miero, we're ready to jump to supports.
I'm gonna let you into the pit, but nothing's doing.
At least not for now, Roche down to about 60% health.
I'm sure Junior now hides in the pit, and GPK's gonna walk back in to Roche with Roche.
Be very careful for Yandex.
Game's gonna get about even and now picking up a shield room, that's when to work with.
Smoke immediately used and another group fight from Betboom just trying to wrap around, maybe
finding here Jeter, bleeps with the crush misses on the ball lightning, they've got the
silence for a second under the arrow.
But there's the vortex, hit him Alice down with that B's gate, that's how it came through,
with a light break, the low light kill, they get the throw to Ketherley as well, save it's
gonna be a double throw, watch it, that was Sonsa, Karatich as well as watching, trying
to put the Divide Rapier damage out.
The carriage has hopped at BKB, so he needs to be careful without it.
He's got access to that St. Tanick and the Flares Bota, but no BKB for the Gyro anymore.
He's trying to see if anything's happening in the pit, using the traps, attacking the traps.
Pit of Malice, what an insanely good ability in these small areas where you're trying to take the fight.
Double buyback from BedBoom supports.
They use their buybacks. They don't have Tiny.
He had bought back a ways back and actually has by it's coming up hold on seconds
Got the golds
From the courier kill that DM just got so he actually now has by
They aren't gonna elect to go to it because they've got the ages now for
Jiro will try to hold out as much as he can but the potential here is
Mega creeps if they just run through top top
Mountage
Still no refresher no courier
and now we're gonna vortex and pull
He's got it. He's got that damage from D.A.
He died at a harp. Oh that force that didn't get him up on a low guard
Now he's still stuck in the high ground with Ketchy on me as well as Mere going in the corner of the wall
Oh man, really like the play coming out from TA in this one.
He's keeping the distance knowing that he doesn't necessarily need to jump in.
So he's playing off the traps.
They died so quickly and then once you kill a hero or two, then he feels much more comfortable jumping into the fight with the divine rapier
He did not commit
Okay
And underlord also being in because when you think about the how much HP Huskar has he's sitting at 5.3k HP
Firestorm deals
percentage base damage max HP
So those supports bought to secure the ages they bought back. They won't be here for 50 even now you've got a defense
3v4
They'll look at tier 4s. This is tough not easy to get these tier 4s all the buildings still up
With the damage that Watson produces though it may not be an issue Huskars not gonna buy back this yet
Ball lightning forcing them away and they're gonna have to deal with these pit-a-mouses.
Watson's got one for the buildings.
And Watson's not even focusing on getting these kills out of these heroes.
He's just looking for the tier fours to finish off the game.
BKB's gonna be popped by many Arrow, the Thurts gonna be in for a pressure from Warlock.
They're going all in.
That's four golds and just go for Throne.
They don't care you used your clip to save your tier fours.
But do they have the depth to kill you on a watch?
And he's in trouble! The Waller is punched!
They've got the silence to get the kill!
Divide Ravier on the deck! They'll take out your generdalco's DM!
They have buybacks, but they don't have the Divines!
Golem get the A, God, they killed all of them and they killed them instantly, even with that damage reduction.
Watson, how much gold does he have? He has only 3,000 gold.
Without Divine Rapier, his damage is going to be not as much, not as high as they wanted.
And now you have Keratich, double Divine Rapier, Daedalus in his backpack.
Let's see if he decides to keep the mantle style or put in Daedalus to go in and try to end this game running down the mid lane.
the mid lane, QPK was forced to use the buyback in that fight, and you can see the damage,
10,000 damage coming up from Gyrocopter. Never underestimate the damage output that this
hero can deal in the late game.
That was Slardar locking up the TA multiple times. Crush, bash, bash, crush, bash. I mean,
Watson not having the opportunity to survive against Miero, he jumps in, he doesn't have
a lot of health.
and destroy those golems. Like usually if you don't have the AOE to kill the heroes, you might just win the game off of that.
And Pit of Malice, they're fighting outside of it. Miero does have level 25 from a couple of fights ago where Corosive Haze is undispellable,
so he pops the Mantis Tiles, which is in Daedalus, ready to go and get Megas. 20 seconds, long 20 seconds.
Let's see how they approach this. Kiritich, he still has his buyback available, a favoring on this game, going back and forth.
him you, him me, me, him you. We'll see who has the advantage. Falling into the cliff to
creep way to enter Plantas with a banner. So the banner planted keeps those creeps alive
while he tried to fall lightning and clean them up. And now your tier fours are gonna be gone in
a second. But unfortunately for the side of Yandex, they're dealing with mega creeps running at their
base and because they skip the buildings going for the victory there's still a
tier two in both the outer lands for Bat Boom. And I love the ob-sentry it's
mirrored on both sides of the map they see what they doing inside of the base
and the other one as well just in case they want to get the initial jump can't
another divine rapier. It might be a divine rapier with no buyback.
I don't know if it would matter at this point if you had buyback.
Could be the scariest proposition of three divines on a gyro.
At that point, they don't have to glyph. That's one of the issues.
If they lose one hero or two heroes without buyback, their throne could be exposed.
A lot of traps around the throne though.
And it's going to be good amount of silence, good amount of slow, and good amount of keeping the distance, type of a play that he did.
Attacking the traps, and now Agatham Shard upgraded.
Then we can come with this creep wave top, they're moving around and Roche is so far
away but it might be to that point where we wait for it and if it is almost five minutes
with a full extended timer that could put us at 60 minutes but when you've got mega creeps
you've got two divines, you are looking to make the move as soon as you can especially
before the Temporal Assassin gets the divine back in their pocket.
They still didn't de-word this Observer and Sentry, so they see Soxa who is level 25, two toss charges, you could end up in the fountain.
That is true. Okay, Tier-G now avoiding the jump in that came through from the side of that movement, they go and buy the chaotic offerings.
Didn't have the damage to get the kill out of here, and they do take him out, he's gonna buy back immediately.
The snowball's gonna be deep inside this space of the Antex. They're very far in, but there's no way for him to worry about it.
The hit him out, he's gonna be down, they get the kill out of the moundage. He already used his whole loan, they drop down all those colons.
I look for GPK, that's gonna be another hero to hit for two minutes!
They're...
He's not one feeling.
They do have the buybacks for the heroes on the index!
They got the kill and the courage!
The Devines are down back towards Watsen!
They've got a double shot kill on the sea!
Oh no, I was gonna purchase a divide for myself,
but hey, why don't I just get two for free?
The greatest deal you've ever seen
when you're looking to get your own Devine.
And Chura Junior, he was about to jump them
right when they were about to jump him,
So he ended up outside of the base with the three teammates from Betbuu actually getting the jump
and then being inside of the base getting fatal bonded, the double golem, actually four golems
getting dropped on top of their heads.
So CJ, he's ready to jump and then everybody is in.
And this is just, look at this snowball all the way in and that's going to be towards CA, towards the back.
They have the wall response but why is it not taking any damage?
The silence and the damage coming in courageage can't survive, and instead of buying a divine, you get two for free.
Watson's like, sick, dude, sick! I just got two divides, top of the net worth! I've got a lot of damage out! Awesome!
I mean, this is great! There's not a feeling better than that!
Roshan, 25 seconds, he might respawn.
How big can he get, sitting at 7,000 gold?
And they are...
Getting one more Crimson, so this is the second, this has to be the latest Crimson on a core in the tournament.
And this is like 57 minutes we're talking about, so maybe they're thinking if they go for the play, if they go for our Throne, we can protect the Throne with the double Crimson.
There's still one available on GPK.
Now here's my question. You've got Megas against you, do you try to get Megas and even it out on the buildings, or you've got both the vines, you just have to go and finish the game?
because the Throne is exposed.
He has another Divine Rape here.
Jara'Copter also did pick up Swift, blink, so his damage is going to be pretty massive, Dragon Lens.
Let's see what he's going to do with that Dragon Lens, whether he wants to sell it,
maybe get the Butterfly, but no heroes with the buybacks available right now.
And now, finally, Kiritich, you can feel the damage coming out from him.
60 plus thousand damage.
Yeah, but there was 205,000 damage being done by Yandex overall.
That is a lot.
I will say the total on Betboom, I think still less than that one game face beyond hand on that Venno,
but who's doing comparisons like that? Not me.
I should certainly.
Five heroes alive for both.
Roche gonna be up in a minute 30.
We are closing in on that 60-minute mark.
We'll see if we wait for Roche, if we wait for the tier 5s, then we're really getting
into chaos.
I'm a big fan of chaos when it comes to these games in this late-minute, Mark.
You never know what's going to happen.
No, for Spandex it's very important that they do have buyback available on Tiny.
He, like, you need to get close to the throne to be able to kill it.
You have, you know, Slaughter, Huskard, not the highest range heroes, one is Melee, Jarocopter,
he can keep the distance, but with the two toss charges, you could easily end up in the
fountain.
That's Octorain core as well, lowering the cooldown on it, 8 second cooldown, but the
level 25s on Tiny are insanely good once you get to Octorain, like Octorain timing, where
you can, like, go for Avalanche cooldown, which makes it almost perma up, it's less
in three seconds.
It could be permit tossed into the air though with those two charges, get refresher, throw
him up four times.
Start juggling these heroes.
Warlock also hit level 25 so we might see another golem.
Summons a golem on death.
Does that add a second golem when you've got the eggs on death?
I believe so, yes.
So that's potentially six golems.
Yes.
Alright, so it was his older talent.
It was his level 20 talent, but it was a bit OP, because with Black Rimoire you could have easily gotten to level 20.
And since I caretiched, he wants another Divine Rapier. He was like, one is not enough.
I see the enemy carry has two. It means it's a good item.
If I'm Warlock, do I not just go to kill myself and like drop down four golems and then throw six of the phone while they're trying to fight it?
He needs to be careful. You need to get your golems ready because he doesn't have buyback available.
60 minutes in, let's see what they're gonna be able to get.
And that's the ultimate legend play there, that you get the buyback and boots travel.
Get the six combs out by dying, boots travel next to them, die again on purpose.
Tossback, Huskar, you know, hot of trouble, and by trouble I mean dead.
A hundred seconds, they do not have GPK, and they will not have Kethelme either.
That's GPK short six that just might be it.
So now we jump in and go to the third and the question is going to be on the three, but now the counter-coffin is coming through, that's going to be another, and another.
Carrots are shooting the BKB and the dash coming through. All of these lose again, he'll be off to the fold, and St. Tavik's not going to be enough for him.
Triple kill for Team White for Yandex. They have expanded far, but they kept it all together, and the Throne, it's being attacked, but will be cleaned up by this under-ward, they'll call GG, and Yandex will take game 161 minutes in over Betwee.
Whoo, man, what a game.
They catch GpK without buyback in the end.
Six gold.
Did not have it.
Saksa, again, doing heavy, heavy lifting with this tiny,
with the tossbacks, with the plays,
making sure that they always have something.
And what a performance from Yandex in this game, number one.
Definitely that tiny, big marker there for them.
So we'll toss it back to the panel.
Some of your best work, Ben. Love that.
Yeah, what a game.
I mean, we've just been spoiled today
with the team liquid comeback now this end to end swings throws mistakes I just
this game had it all and then at the end even ends in a crazy way for the matter
of 60 gold on a buyback you just have like rapiers back and forth on both
teams like you already said one team is kind of throwing like they're going to
the high ground they're getting tossed in then Watson is like killing half of
them he has his own rapier they go to bedbooms based and he all ends on the
throne and it wasn't even that close and they throw the rapier like back to them
There were also like so many things that even happened before the 40-minute mark
You know where it's a constant like back and forth of what they're doing but Jenkins the Husker that you called not victorious here
No, I mean because at the end he went for the neutral camps
They thought that Yandex would also go for the neutral camps because it's 60 minute neutral items and the trap
Yeah, this was this was really nice like that's one really underrated component to TA in the late game
Is that you're getting all of this pure damage?
It's only two hits if you have a single trap if you have a bunch of traps if you're defending high ground
It's a little bit more, but it's not something you can really bank on for like late game carry potential of a TA
But if you have a rape beer and you the Daedalus like you can do so much damage
especially a bunch of like armor and you know husk are resistances like that was super well played
But that mean the the end of the game was
is entirely determined.
And this is not even the end of the game.
No, this is not even close enough for 10 more minutes.
I mean, there was some people here saying they should call it.
Yeah.
All the time they said they should call it.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, there's a lot of times it looked like the game could
have instantly ended.
I love that both carries, by the way, at the same time
picked up a rapier.
It wasn't like one saw the other get a rapier.
It just felt like the game was so close.
And the damage numbers were so close that they needed more.
But then since both of them bought the rapier, it evened out again, and we ended up with more fights that were going evenly both ways.
Yeah, you have to look at the supports in this case.
Like I really do feel like Soxa was old so hard.
He was the guy in this game, the Tosspacks.
Otherwise, I think they simply would have gotten Huskard.
Maybe you could argue there's a little bit of like, you know, GPK is out of position there.
But when you get last pick, you want to play aggressive.
He's got two save supports in the shadowed E-min in the tusk,
so I understand what he's doing.
Yet there's three man-up-on-you cores on the side of Betboom.
So it really did provide these opportunities for Socks
that hit the big toss backs.
And boy, did he cook with some of these plays.
No, for sure.
Like, I would say he's one of the reasons
why this game even lasted that long.
But this guy on the screen, like 15, 4, 13, 87% kill participation.
And we showed it in the clips, like just abusing the traps
get the pure damage, unlike the gyro and like staying in the game. I think apart from, you know, the one, I guess you can call it a blunder where you're all in the enemy throne. You know, that was like where they nearly lost the game. But whoever also made the call at the very end of the game to say, okay, 60 minute items, abuse the clock and our favor, let's hunt them. They're going to be somewhere. And then suddenly you get, they got two guys without by the guy, GPK and the tusk. And then the game is just the game which was cooked on the spot. Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. I mean, you know, I want to give some credit to CJ as well. Like when you're getting hurt, you know, you're going to be like, okay, I'm going to be like, okay, I'm going to be like, okay, I'm going to be like, okay, I'm going to be like, okay, I'm going to be like,
and you're having a TP back to base, constantly over and over again, your farm's a bit diminished.
He like hung in the pocket, you know, like he was fighting for his life,
and if he died a bunch and hadn't been as disciplined, you know, the game obviously goes a very different direction.
So credit to him, you know, it's never easy in that situation.
No, I would say he did really well, because this is not a good matchup for him by any means.
So, you know, hanging in there, being able to like still get his game going, it was super important for them.
Yeah.
I mean this year too, like, it's one of the reasons like what I want to talk about like Jenkins called his pick
And I think GPK did a lot in this game and it's also like the skill of the top-level players
He gets a haste rune and it's like just how he's using, you know, his hero, his positioning
He runs into the enemy woods, they get this first kill on the wall
Like if you just look at how Yanix are moving with all the heroes, Storm moves backwards to Tiny, everyone has to go back
They get like three kills and in this early game, it's why this room control is so important. He also highlighted that before the game
I think in this entire early game. It's the same story again, right?
You're playing this house guy you're getting all the runes because this hero
He will always dominate like this early part of the game and I'm killable this part
Yeah, and I like this items too right with the crimson and he goes for the heart later
But we highlighted the time they go high ground you need to respect it like it's like the type of moment
Where I like to say with specific heroes
There are moments where it's so crucial and it's illegal to lose a fight or to make a play like that and it
It kind of happens here, right? Look at this separation. They have all these traps and they have the route as well.
It's super hard for his team to come over, so Miro, he's trying, but then you're jumping in even deeper because at this point
you can't really get out, so he's committed. And if you just look at his team, they're like, bro, we can't help you.
They're calling it, you know, they want to go back and they don't want to have any part of this.
Because if you try to go back even tries to channel you can get tossed in again, and then there's another pit
So no one can really come and help him fight the fight is so weird after this point. Yeah
You know what? I the more I see it the more. I think the tiny is like
Conceptually counter to husk. It is absolutely like look at this. It's 30 minutes
You have ages he dealt 8k damage, but look at his team his gyro couldn't deal damage
His supports can't save him if there's this distance because there's a pouch a bad writer event swap on this case
There's a two meter giant socks that was just tossing you back in the base. You're cooked
Yeah, the repositioning element Huskar really doesn't like like he needs a team behind him that's able to save him
He needs to be like playing on the front if you can if you can just break the formation of a Huskar team
It feels he gets old it feels bad and I think with tiny you're breaking the formation with the Huskar
But you're not it's not you're it's kind of pokey like you're not really committing a lot as tiny
It's not like he goes in and he dies like something like an axe, you know
It's like an axe jumps in he's dead or you're dead. That's it
But tiny you're gonna force that foul you're gonna toss back like tiny's all about going into the fight jumping out going into the fight jumping out
So I don't want to call it a counter just yet, but it's really good against us Gar
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Continues they are just so much fun to watch
never out of any game we've got Bat Boom swinging for the fences with us
Garpix I really hope this game too can deliver something similar guys that was
awesome I think it will because it was not up to the drafts it was up to the
gameplay that brought the game back they played good honest Dota absolutely
isn't that what we want Jenkins better up yeah okay you swing for the fences
buddy because that's what Bat Boom's got to do again in this one cuz I know it's
Baseball he doesn't know you guys have you a few keep this look like
Mine without the virus. They play like there. They play all I know handball handball
That's that's what we like. I was I just I mean, I just hope this game goes to three games actually do very good
These teams have easily been because there's been the most fun to watch
There's been some two ones and you know to be honest the games are quite shit
It's like one team figures the other team out after getting destroyed in one of they would they win two games
Oh, you have a really well constructed draft and there's not what you can do
Yeah, give us give us a give us a three game series that has some some hype in it
You know we had the hype liquid game, but that was a second game
Mm-hmm. We need a full three game series where every game is is like the last one
Yeah, I feel like here you have it like both teams are because they're not afraid like you can see that both teams
There are mistakes being made, but this is also, you know, it's a high-pressure situation
You're going for like I would say they're the teams that go for like the more risky place like overall
You know like going for the high ground maybe rushing someplace
You know so that's still something you need to like level up and like level out between the series talk about it
Maybe take an extra second to think and then execute. I mean you saw what kind of characters they're like
I mean we saw the interview with CJ. He couldn't stop smiling
He could barely answer the questions because his smile was so big
So and there you go. They say Watson we've seen enough ETA that's that's over. I mean, I
Like the respect. I think also did the pick order change? Yes. Yeah index first pick TA. Let's okay. Yeah
So the pick order has changed so the drafting will change because I just don't think that either team is really that unhappy with the draft loss game
No, they it was more
Play that
Delayed the game out and like Dave Yandex the learning even until the very end. It could have gone either way
Yeah, very different bands, like in Oracle first I think this is we've seen Oracle band not first phase if I'm not mistaken
Yeah, that's the first time it's in the first like even Mars is not the type of hero that really makes us happen
But you know yandex must have an idea because you are not giving up SF randomly at this stage in the tournament
So I do hope that you know they've got something where they're like very happy with it
whether it's like some offline duel and you know where you feel very happy there was like a time
I think a couple weeks ago. I kept seeing like darks here pop up and like some of the pubs
You play with like another melee four guy you get on him and like try to be very annoying
We have seen Marcy carry as well like Mercer carry to I mean, I guess
Shadowed even is like a soft darks here in the sense that you're
getting illusions of the SF and
And they do a significant amount of damage and at the very least it evens out that minus
armor trade that comes from the aura because you also get the aura.
Any ideas to why they would prioritize a Mars banner taking the Shadowfiend out?
They must feel like that maybe it just lets Miero play like a completely different game,
like outside of like if you compare all the carries to all the offlaners, I mean they
feel like it's the biggest difference by you know taking out the Mars and you know if you
give Keratich one of his range guys maybe they feel like they're all somewhat similar
in terms of how strong they are because Miro Mars, you know, I can't really fault them for banning it out.
They are also dire. So the dire offlane is the one that usually spends the most time in the jungles and like on the island because
you're not going to get the safe lane tier one as early necessarily because it's away from the tormentor. Like everyone is playing top.
So the dire offlaner is like, okay, I'm going to lose lane anyway and I'm going to go jungle. So
whatever if they have SF I guess you know yeah sure I mean if I'm Yannick's
already you need to I mean we've all seen SD the hero is super good especially
if unchecked so if you're BB you're already looking at heroes like Puck and
Storm from the mid lane you're looking at Centaur from the offline you can jump
him you have to stampede against the purge and just like overall to like
looking like create this draft where you know SF he needs to be tiny is a big one
that's a really big one and we've seen it in all these games like these heroes are
are super important against Estee, that's what you want to have.
I wouldn't even be surprised by Yandex just 13 picking Tiny so they don't get it on the BB side.
It seems a little bold to me to give away Tiny SF and just have Estee as the answer.
Unless they want to go like some life stealer route where you just don't...
I feel like they wouldn't do that.
But they wouldn't do that because they have Watson, right? He's a range carry specialist.
What is Luna versus SF like? Is there some like more, you know, the last couple of days
trend, trending carries that can deal with SF that we're seeing that are ranged heroes?
Medusa?
Yeah, I think Medusa is good, but the problem is like you have to 16-17 your guy and like
Medusa is not really that type of hero. I mean, you can ban the AM and like do the thing.
They would need to ban Ham. That's the next.
Like I think there's just a world where you're looking at like maybe some wind ranger type
hero, if you're yandex, I think that's fine. Wind is good, yeah. I mean if you want wind,
you probably ban out the centaur and I think you're overall pretty happy, then there's no
mars, there's no cent, if that's something that you do want to do. Maybe that's also a part of why
they, if they do go for wind, why they pick to SD, because then BB can't take SD. Yeah, I can see
that. And they can, they're picking 9 and then 13, so they like effectively do a double pick.
But a lot of the times you pick this stuff early in the draft because it's very convenient.
Okay, so they're, you know, effectively block picking the Tusk SF, but it does leave the
Tiny SF in the pool.
Yeah, so there's Tiny, there's, I mean, what else do you have?
I mean, it is pretty nice, I would say, if you can play melee fives with Clockwork.
And I think, yeah, so if you want Tiny 4, which is obviously super good, it makes the,
then you kind of want a range 5, so maybe you can still like swap lanes overall, because
Other heroes are in the pool. This I like against the Tusk.
Just for the root, you have overall good laning.
Let me see how they combo this.
Because 4-5s, they're still the...
Warlock is in the pool, which has always looked good.
I don't think SF Warlock is the most crazy lane.
It's good. It's solid.
Maybe they just take Centaur or something here because then...
You know that yandex is not taking a four or five right now picked it already
They go for marsy
This can land with SF which is which is really nice. It also like blocks the
Potential marsy pick yeah coming out from the side of yandex
Which we've seen other teams answer the SF with a marsy carry and Watson was the guy
That invented the marsy helm dome. Yeah true true
So it's something you always have to consider from him.
It is a soft flex for the BB side, which is cool.
I still think like now, I mean, he does have a lot of options, I think, on Watson.
I would like the wind a lot.
I think also if you look later, Murata is something that can come to mind.
Like if you're looking at SF and Marcy, which I think is good.
And then you need to look, I would say, at some of the other cores.
I mean, I guess you could lock in one of your offlaners here as well, for DM.
Something that gives you catch would be kind of nice, so just so you like help against the SF
Because they also at the same time you need to be expecting that the 18 pick on
BB is very likely to be their mid-pick for a GPK like a spirit already looks really strong against the SD and the tusk
And technically DM could still go for the dark seer
like Darkseer, Tuscany. It's not so bad.
They will just go for the Centaur.
Centaur is good too. The Centaur ulti, it's a little weird into Dark Willow brambles.
It's hard to run out of those, but other than that, there's no real hard lockdown on the side of BB
and they very much commit to fight, so if you can just disengage with the Centaur ulti.
I think also that it makes a lot of sense, because if you don't pick the Centaur,
pick the centaur, there's a very high chance BB take it on AT here, you can put the Marci
5, you also have 3 saves, true, that's a lot, I mean there's the storm now we talked about,
actually yeah you're right, I would say both teams are drafting very logically, in a way
they are taking what they want and they're covering it in a very nice way, we talked
about the storm earlier against the heroes. The wind makes a lot of sense against the
Marcy. It makes often Marcy a lot worse in that sense. It's good against the SF. Storm
overall. Everyone in this game actually is set up for a pretty good game. I currently
don't see any of the cores being set up for a bad time. They're all getting what they
want. It all makes sense together. It makes sense against the opponents.
Just to take a step away from the draft for a moment, Andrew, can you explain that stat
to people at home just in case there's newer people watching the divide between the dire
and radio in right 56 was a lot for dire 56 is a lot dire it tires top right right you remind me
yeah it's a top right so people are going through the portal and taking the safe lane tier one tower
because that's where the tormentor is and i think that move in general it has been like quite
devastating like in dota for a very long time that area like the enemy safe lane tier one
very quickly becomes your area, even though it's technically where the enemy towers are, so
in a way, if the Tormentor was on the other side, for example, then it would maybe favor
Radiant, because then Radiant is taking that safe lane tier one and already wanted to control that
area, and I think part of that is the way off-laner scale into the game. They get strong at the timing
where you can take that tower and carries want to go into the jungle and just be on their own,
So that to me makes a lot of sense.
I think also there's probably something there with the Roche timings and where Roche is
spawning more naturally, because also if you're controlling that area as dire, then that's
also where the first Roche is between the 15 and 20 minute mark.
And that's when people are most commonly taking Roche.
And it's really interesting because some teams are saying, okay, well, we see this
stat, we see this concept, so we're going to pick a ton of minus armor and do Roche
between 10 to 15 minutes instead.
And that is working for some teams.
I do think it has a lot to do with like the tier ones like one of the like first points you mentioned initially
I think there hasn't been like this much of like importance
I think when it comes to like the earlier towers in the game
Of course they open up the map everyone knows what like mid tier one does but both the safe link your ones are like super crucial for like
You know having the TP into like the instant gate
You can be like on the other side of the map. So I do think it matters a lot
To look back at the pick. I think the bands are quite good from Yandex
I mean, I'm one of the guys that believes in this hero. I think conquer could be quite good here
I think X is good against these heroes. You build Blade Mail against Windranger.
You could argue that, you know, ST can save, and TUS can save from the spells, but
you can also always just, like, you can Torrent under those things too.
Alright, let's just go for the BB. I think it's kind of a similar here in a way where
you're very open with what items you can build. You could go for Blade Mail against the Windranger.
You have some minus armor now as well with the SF BB. It seems solid.
Super safe. That's how I would see it.
Yeah.
It's something that can't really be like hard counterpicks with this last pick you're gonna do fine and land against wind
if you get a chipped vest
Maybe even a blade mail versus where it can be pretty devastating for her
Wind is also not a
Position one range tier that likes building a silver edge because she basically already has that from
Agonym scepter she literally already has that from Agonym scepter
So you're not going to get a good break against Bristle.
Well, never mind.
That's a good break against Bristle.
I meant from the windrunner pick.
I mean, Estee also has a break, but it comes in so late in the game
that Bristle often has like BKB, Saumsch and Yasha.
It's often not that effective.
But what is effective is a point and click.
You get level six and Bristleback does not get to exist.
Even against SF, it's a really good break
because he likes to build BKB.
Yeah, he the minus armor is very important. I mean, this was the hero of that whenever there was an SF in the game
That tied they were putting it on Tylogan heroic. Yeah, that was their counter conceptually. They thought it was a count
Yeah, even not in lane against it. It's it's legit in their eyes just a game counter and it does make a lot of sense
I think this is a super strong 24 pick
I think BBR is in some trouble because you can look for some moves onto the Viper mid,
but if this game prolongs, there is so much on Yannex that can save each other.
You've got the card, you've got the disruption, you've got the snowball, whereas I think for
BBR, their early moves aren't really that easy.
If I'm looking right now, I would actually heavily favor Yannex just because I think
also CJ on Viper has looked very good, and I think there isn't that much counterplay
from BB other than trying to create time and space for yourself.
I think they need to make chaos in the mid lane.
Punish the fact that Viper is slow as hell and that Willow plus Marcy with a storm should
hypothetically be able to punish a Viper mid, but there are defensive supports on the other
side that can help out there.
So it's just about-
But it comes back to the saves.
It does.
It always comes back to the saves.
I'm afraid.
like if I'm a bb fan right now and I'm looking at the nurse it's I'm definitely
nervous for them all right well it is now time for me to throw you over to the
man with the most explosive trousers and e-sports it is sir right that's right
we're keeping it clean here today my friends and I here at the cell good to
see you again from the index sir you're walking in the booth after last game
absolute part of my friends a bit of a shit show but a very crazy one I thought
you guys were cooked for sure. What do you say to your team? What do you talk to
them? Say good job or you say boys what what happened? I say good job of course
first of all and then one happened guys why it's so bad. What do you think
happened in that last one? Was it a draft thing or was it a team thing? I mean
draft wise they should have very advantage but I think we screwed up a
little bit in important fights later on when we were able to fight so. Alright
well whatever that was that game let's talk about this game. I'm seeing a lot
of this first pick shadow fiend it is kind of a I've heard a lot of coaches talk about it either you
pick it or you ban it or it's guaranteed a first pick material why not first pick the shadow fiend
or you know fight for that and make sure is it really safe to ever give this hero to people
we just want to play if you're maps only could get more tired and they're not going to get make it
fair enough fake answer thank you very much incredible last pick from them with the bristle
back a very common hero almost in every single role you guys are going to answer
that with the viper is that all about the break was it just about that bristle
or were you already playing on that viper yeah it's more about bristle and good
running into stone but i think it's not like that bad for bristle and zayn
they still play as well. Watson just got first blood on the
win ranger congratulations there uh first blood does this matter in games that
much anymore because i heard an old saying you get first blood in four
rooms you're just GG out is that true it depends like how much resources you
spent are you late on the lanes are you full sometimes you can like take first
but but give like three bounties and be half HP so it can be like backfiring you
so it depends all right fantastic well what do you think your chances are will
we be seeing a game three would you be prepared for it or do you want the boys
to just close it down here close close it out come on the audience wants to game
three. It's not going to look bad on you. You already did a great job.
Close it out. Okay, we'll close it out. This interview as well. Let's go into our game.
Thanks so much, Slacks. I really would like to see a full-form interview with
Slacks. I thought Slacks was going to cast the game considering how long this interview was.
Slacks is like, yeah, there's the first blood, asking about the lanes, started to talk about
the analysis about everything. But Slacks, he does cast one game per tournament. Maybe we could
to give him one in a BO5. Like he loves to, you know, always squeeze it in with the production.
Maybe they let him do it, probably not, but we'll have to see. Maybe it's better that
this is not his last tournament, so just keep him the job that he does have right now.
Let's focus on some of the lanes right now. Watson getting that first blood, which is
going to be his first stat item he brought. Tango, he is bringing in Bracer as well. He
needs extra bit of regen. And Validic will be playing Tusk this time around with the
the tag team. In the previous one we saw Katelmy playing Tosk with a different
passive this time around. This is such a deadly combo. You have tag team damage
with the focus fire which is going to proc. Like you always have damage. With these
two heroes no matter how tanky you are the heroes are gonna die.
Yeah, gonna be tough to withstand that. Even in the top lane now you throw the
shackles out. You have that tag team plight. It can be very problematic. And you just
kind of wonder if that first one is gonna make a massive difference. Up towards
His Topsocks are gonna die though to a raise from Kiritage, he's got a little bit of a recovery.
Katomi is gonna get credit for the kill however.
It's nice to get those kills early on and kind of recover as his Shadowfeet because
you know, keeping up the first flight never feels good.
Need to bounce back real quick and you know, it'll start there.
Also got TP out, ooh that was quick, GPK.
Almost dying to Wiper.
Jera Junior using all of his mana pool, and this is a bit of a newer build in Viper before people were still picking up the bottle,
but realized that they could just get stats by a couple of mangoes and go for Bracer, go for Naltelusman as well, that's going to be your mana regen.
I thought the people were AFK for a second, I thought we lagged because nobody moved.
Tapping a couple times as we've sat here and had ourselves needing a decent pause
at times for a packet loss but not today that's not happening this time.
GM he's perfect so far this tournament I believe with the Centaur War Runner.
It's not in that many games but he has found success and there it is two games
to win. Small sample size but it's all good and Soxa getting that courier despite the fact that they
do have that Marci. GPK falling back into the jungle now has to kind of replicate a little bit
of what Chirijinir did if he's going to be backing up and staying there for long but immediately Soxa
in deep just trying to block these lanes and make or block these camps and make sure that
this storm doesn't have access to the jungles easily. Yeah we've seen them farm in that area
Once they want to get level 6, Miero holding on to Lotus and forcing Windrun out of Windranger.
I've seen Windrangers recently because people are picking up this facet from the carry roll
and then skipping Power Shot completely, but recently I saw quite a lot of two points in Shackle Shot.
Still max your Power Shot to be able to get the damage.
It's good for the farm, if it's still farm with your shackleshot on the creep wave, you'll end it.
But also you have a good amount of contribution to a fight early on, especially if you decide to join in Windranger as a hero.
We'll definitely love to join some of these earlier fights.
We saw Watson being super active as a carry, if he's playing Luna, going through the twin gates, trying to backstab the enemy carry.
I have to see if that ends up being the case with this Windranger.
is Soxa again just move it over and continue to block these camps making sure that he can
stop the pulls this time different objectives same idea.
GPK did end up unblocking that camp so he does have access to that farm again
and now the Dark Willows save coming towards bottom but not seeing Soxa.
Might even move over to try and lock down DM but kind of lost between the two heroes back
before it's safe goes and not really finding who he wants to commit on.
That's now three heroes sitting here bottom leaving this bristleback alone who's going to be cutting the creep blues.
Dispose, Bramble's down with a hoof stock connects, double edge again on the two, Snowball hits two heroes,
but pick me up trying to get away, GM's low, but it's not going to matter, he'll get a triple kill!
You don't see this off, like you don't see Shenthar ever getting a triple kill.
Well, this hero doesn't like to be involved relatively early on.
He wants to chill, he wants to farm, get some levels, and right now Miro making the lane
for himself, dragging two creep waves, knowing that their catch is there, but also kind of
forcing the enemy team to respond to this rotation.
He is bringing Hoots of Speed.
They do have flying career, thanks to Marcy Early.
Sure, Junior.
They need a stun.
They have a way to stop it, with Sox is showing up, but he can't start with the destruction.
Yeah, he has to hold out for the TP.
That means he has to avoid getting the Quilster in his face, and that helps when he's got the break.
And they'll get the kill to Miero, he never even TP's out.
Extremely good start for Yandex.
They had a 3,000 hour lead poking up, just a second ago.
That's insanely high for 6 minutes in.
Where's coming off the DM triple kill?
If we can, we're already kind of past it, but I kind of want to see how close he was to dying in that exchange, because he had like 60 health or something like that, but instead gets a triple.
They move over to try and steal the shrine and cut three heroes. This might be a position where you end up losing all three again.
holds the snowball, avoiding the brambles,
TMS in the face of Keratich.
What a tear.
They're in so much trouble to pick me up,
Keratich trying to get away, but the power shot misses.
DM on a Kothomi, Watts have shackle.
Can he catch up to Keratich?
Shackle, oh, I thought for a second
that might shackle on a Keratich on the back end of it.
But now another double edge,
he got the kill and a save.
Power shot again off the mark on a Keratich,
but Watts, he's got winrod to catch up to this Shadowfiend.
He looks over at Keratich, a couple of seconds,
and will maybe get the rebound.
No, they'll throw the trees at two of them!
Oh, Kiritin Shackle!
Oh, boy!
Kiritin, she tried to help him out in the angle.
The shorts are there, he is in trouble and dead again!
He stayed, he wanted to help him out with the rebound
so that they get out of the trouble,
but Watson, third Shackle, he does land, it does connect.
And this is what we said, Watson, he will try to get involved.
And he might stick around, actually,
because he does have focus fire,
so might still be able to get the kill.
He pops the Lotus, it got tell me, that deep?
That bitch is baiting, he's sitting here a little like,
why don't you try to go for me?
And instead, it watching sticks around against that kill.
And that's gonna be the tower as well.
This is gonna be, not necessarily
that they need to kill it straight away,
but this tower is kind of Domzo sitting at 300 HP,
which does open up the map.
Gpk keeping in, doesn't have that much may not to work with.
Snowball and Paul Anken counted. Shards, but still dead.
And they found the Bristol again. Viper strike and the right clicks through, and that's pure Junior claiming the life of Miara.
Maybe it's time to stop. Maybe it's time to play in your own triangle. You have the stacks there. He is high level. He is level 7.
Soxa, he was ready for this type of a play. I think teams overall got better at understanding when they can go for this type of a play,
bringing in a support with the stun and then bringing in another hero stand now
Chara Junior about to finish off his boots of travel so he can be anywhere
on the map in the next few minutes.
Chipi Kedowni coming through to try and get a kill here on a DM.
He'll stampede and there's not a lot of mana left on the Storm to keep up.
And he's also got this Marshmage in their face, Miara.
He's sending some stacks, and what, Marshmallow Mage?
Yes.
In his off-time when he's not being a neutral creep, he is de-jagged around the world.
Seven stacks per team so far, and DMD doing the same, he's taking these camps, taking
these stacks, and looking for an early Lotus.
He did build early Lotus in those two games earlier that he played on Centaur, and then
an option to go for either Crimson Guard or a Blink Dagger.
I think in this one, it's probably gonna be Lotus
into Blink Dagger so that they can start a fight.
Stampede is one way to disengage and start a fight.
It's early fights, but later on,
you need a reliable way of starting it.
Sogza, he's level six already.
Got that Illusion Rune and GBK will walk out,
but they've got the shards, Shadow Realm, Dark Willow,
trying to get away as Yendex,
He'll chase, he'll strike, and they will kill.
Tier Junior now on a killing spree on this Viper, got the boots of travel and
will continue to work from there as he's gone 3-3-1-1 on his build.
Putting more points into Poison Attack so that he can still dominate the lane, forcing GPK early to keep the out,
and outplaying with the Catapult.
Not sure if Red Boom Team can respond to this.
Shadowfiend farming on a different side of the map.
GPK, it needs to be him.
Q supports.
Ready to go?
Same with the TP.
Nice charge again from Alidich.
Now on the run, the Bramble Maze locks up and hits too, so Alidich is going to be dead.
Keppa Omi is here, but GPK, you can't really dive in for more, even despite the fact that
your Junior doesn't have a lot of mana to play with, but you can, you do defend, and
back up from there and continue to farm.
This is leaving Watson farming top, and he's come over and moved around a bit to the point
where he's top the net worth and comparing him to the shadow fiend is a bit of a scary look
yeah maybe maybe we should not do that we should not do him dirty
they ruin his game he does have three deaths on shadow fiend not the start that you want but
i don't know maybe i'm a bit of a hater the shadow fiend for the past 20 plus years for me has been
and the favorite hero, Tickel and Dota.
You show up with him, he has no defensive tools.
Back in the days, it was even more easy
knowing that he did not have Requiem Assault Steer Mechanic.
So you just get a jump, you close the gap and he's kind of dead.
Still the same thing before Requiem.
Doesn't have much, too much mana to work with in this one.
I also want to see what kind of build.
Viper's going to go for a charge.
Junior did play one game and Viper did lose that game.
Went for agonimus after BKB.
So, Tai-Lung, play Viper a bit differently, going for Crimson Guard from the mid lane, if it's a good game for it.
He's focusing on Ag's and it will be Lotus for Centaur, maybe we see the Crimson there.
I'm curious as to if the Viper will change off this Agnemse up there.
Yeah, I might want to, like, if they do go for two Auras, if you get Vipe Crimson from the mid and off lane,
plane you are super strong like if you can get the timing right maybe you get
something extra from two of your supports but since like supports are
building into different items knowing that there's a lot of physicals a
solar crest and also amplifying the damage of your carry it does miss
Watson he sense something was up also not the easiest kill to get playing into
two supports with defensive tools one of them TP in here requiem
They're ditching, fake pumping it, pretending that there's an action happening.
You gotta pretend the action's happening and envision that winning fight with your
Requiem doing all the heavy lifting.
But for now it's just farming, it's not really letting that Requiem rip.
The whole time DM, he's just had such a great start to this game, 4-0 and 2.
Obviously that triple kill really boosting him up.
But he's got help of the Dominator and he's only 400 gold away from Aloha's.
He's almost as farmed as his carry.
He's had such a great start.
The answer for Bedboom currently, at least what they believe to be the answer, is keeping
up in farm.
And of course they need to get a lot here for their storm and their shadow theme because
they are quite far behind when it comes to their lane opponents or their position opponents.
Yeah, they really are. It needs to be GPK playing with two supports to be able to get something done, they need to control the rune for Storm.
Bristleback is a bit of an AFK, farm type of an offlaner. He doesn't necessarily want to join, he wants action happening in his lane.
First item on Miro is going to be Lotus, so it makes a lot of sense. There's a lot of annoying spells that he can dispel or reflect the enemy team.
And speaking of Lotus, you said DMH is getting close to his, needs another 50 gold, which
is going to be pretty good.
Good ways of dispelling things from Bristleback, great against Dark Willow, Bramble Maze, probably
the most annoying spell that he's playing in too, so if the Stampede's not going to
be as effective, but with Lotus, things do change.
And two offlaners, Lotus at the same time.
relatively the same timing but difference will be the helm of the
dominator for the centaur there's double bracer on this bristle instead
whereas it's no boots helm Lotus
smoke up is three they go towards top the index looking to get a kill they do
of Watson in the area, behind them was the Dark Willow who won't get a sniff of this
at the moment, and Yandex gonna cut through the creepleave, maybe they do catch this Bristle,
and he's gonna walk right into them, they police that ward, they spot him, but he's
got the Lotus, gonna be a little bit careful, Shack will spy in, throw back at Watson by
the Vypr Strike to pick me up, not gonna be enough to save the life of Miero, and now
the Atrocus kept them all in some trouble, but the Requiem from behind them and the Terrorized
The Bedlam, they end up getting one, but it's just Malletage.
It's not what they really wanted, throwing out that Requiem and having that Terrorized Connect.
Yeah, it seems like they need to bring the whole squad. The GPK was not in that fight.
It needs to be him to be able to get one kill, maybe two extra kills, and another good room from the Index.
They are in full control of this game, 5k Gold Lead, about to finish off another tower,
and about to finish off Mjolnir on Windranger.
map getting smaller and the farm for Yandex is heavily favoring them.
This is kind of going against what we've seen Betboom have success with
because they just don't have the network to keep up.
It's usually like we've talked about them having the numbers and looking for these ganks and getting these fights to go their way.
But when you're behind like this, you just, you know, maybe can get one hero if they're alone,
but with the lead that Yandex has, they're kind of moving around as a unit.
They're not really solo in many moments.
And that's a bit of an issue.
Betboom needs to really punch back with everybody to have that answer.
So now you've got the fightbird, he picks up that ag, so he'll have that big nose dive
and he'll look to turn these fights crooked for Betboom.
Watch him, this is the idea.
Hit somebody soloed out.
He'll shackle this storm, the Bedlam on top, they've got the Bramble.
Mjolnir doing a lot.
They get the same, they have the disruption, GBK power shot, oh!
They get the kill anyway, Soxa finishes off GBK and saved now on the run, another gank gone bad for Betboom.
That Mjolnir, that was an insane amount of damage in that previous fight.
This is something that I wanted to mention is, let's say you throw Mjolnir onto a target with the disseminate.
Let's just do Centaur, for example.
So Retaliate damage coming up from him, Mjolnir procs, disseminate, even Viper with his corrosive skin.
It's going to be very difficult to bring down these heroes, and they're going to be reflecting so much damage.
Is there math on that, or is it too many numbers?
Hard to tell how many times it's going to proc, how many times they're going to hit them.
Feels like a quiz show.
Big number, damage, big number.
Ah, I love when I can relate to the analytical numbers, a big number of good.
And that is definitely what we're seeing a lot of, cause 15 is bigger than 4, 6K is bigger
than what BedBoom have at the moment, and Yandex are leading, continuing to stock up
on these items that they need to continue their success.
And it's soon to have that Link Jacker, not only the Centaur, but the Tusk, so you'll
have ways into these fights and honestly ways to get these saves. You'll have the Centaur
who'd be willing to be that initiator, Tusk gonna use this blink to have the snowball
save. He does line up where Gandex are gonna have a lot more boxes checked as this game
gets to about that 20 minute mark. And that's where the objectives come into play, going
for the Tour Mentor, going for the 21 minute shrine, maybe they want to find themselves
going for Roche in that timing as well. And so things are starting to show themselves.
What is fight for strike? There's the break on the Viper nose dive in
Not committing any further than that then once everything got reflected there's something about the mid lane
It's no loss after this happen as it's a met the GP K
He still has to kind of be careful because centaur if he wrapped around maybe could jump him afterwards not gonna do that though
They'll just focus on going for ropes. So that's that time again. Just rose gonna die about 20 minutes
They can follow it up with torment everything else. This is such a massive
chunk timing that comes through in a lot of these games.
Even without Focus Fire, TAC team, they still have more than enough damage sitting inside of Nethertoxin.
They will be able to take this Roche and give it to Watson.
I think this time around, Chura Junior as Viper doesn't really want to be holding on to Aegis.
And the scaling is definitely there. This is not the Viper that is going for.
more auras from the mid lane,
puts a travel agonist scepter straight into BKB.
What's the answer for Betboom?
Is it just trying to move around and avoid these fights?
Because there were times when they were trying to get pick-offs
as we saw on top and they lose both heroes for it.
But would you rather them just kind of try and move fluidly
and avoid the aggression of Yandex in far and wide?
I don't think they have enough to take the flight.
Whoever gets focus fired is dead.
If Tusk is sitting on top of him, and Tusk does have Blink Dagger,
Maladich always manages to find the farm immediately to the bottom lane.
So Maladich also has shards, and he has shards maxed out,
which means that he will be even getting more farm.
Shards squared and farm taken.
Also making life a little bit more of a struggle when you're locked within them.
supports super farmed on the dire side always got to do that neutral enchantment
check and shadow demons got it for the greedy and Marcy does not so only shadow
demon right now out of the four supports they'll be getting more of that gold and
you can see the support gold definitely there of course with the extra for toss
with the shards Lotus pick me up but shrine for validates and the other shrine
there for true junior he's got boots travel he goes over mid he wants to try
and get the kill here on to the shadow fee but the damage not going to be in time
to see me out took that tower over mid
care to get some with the outplay easy 75 mana gets out of trouble till they're
on the GPK Watson he is so strong at the moment and GPK is just not enjoying life
with the damage coming in from this Windranger and if he tried to gank the Windranger, dive then,
now Windranger comes over, kills him and it's just, there's no answer for the Windranger at the
moment. I think you need all five heroes to even have a shot. Pretty much, and they're moving so
quickly across the map utilizing these Twin Gates, Bristleback, Lotus, trying to keep himself protected.
But now they've got the stamp keyed after that Lotus is done, now you go to the disruption,
you'll have to junior ready to throw that Viper Strike and the Nose Dive right on top
of him and Malladish is there.
So with these boots of travel with the Twin Gate movement that they are making from Yandex,
they are just all over the map.
This has been so good from Yandex, the validity that they have around the map throughout these
His first 23 minutes has been the star of the show.
Pretty much.
DM is gonna get jumped, but quick fingers.
DM is out playing them so hard.
Damn man, he's just out.
Nothing stopping this Centaur.
And immediately the big smile.
Like, yeah, I did this, this is me.
I'm so good.
You gotta think that, especially with your phone.
Yeah, you definitely have yourself up. You don't have a caster to hype you up in your own head. It's gotta be you
But I gotta make sure that every good play you make it's just
Hiked up
And when people talk about like these 16 17 year old players are like I had like a what do they talk?
You gotta be that cocky a little shit, you know, you need you gotta got to have that attitude
Otherwise you're not gonna be winning anything you can't have them tell it
Ah this guy's better even if he is you just got to say that he's not got to pretend fake it till you make it
Blink walrus punch and the shackle while you're in the air gpk
Getting played there
Still a minute left on this ages
I don't know if I have it I mean this is definitely the only reason I'm not pro
But I'm not a cocky little shit. I just don't have that mentality but these guys hey, they're just so confident
They have the skill, they have the play, as you would say, professional e-athletes.
One of my favorite lines of yours.
Yeah, DM is doing pretty good.
Slotting in nicely, he might become, you know, one of those stand-in assassins like Lorinoff is.
Each stand-in looking for a home and for just 23 cents a day, you too can help give them a home.
There's a Sarah McLaughlin's in the arms of an angel starts playing we start doing advertisements for these stand-ins because there's been a lot at this tournament
But they are doing quite well. I mean every stand-in for the most part had pretty significant
Shows
DM here Vtune, I know that you know he had a pretty solid event overall
a 10,000 net worth lead for Yandex that
Betboom just have not been able to
scratch into at all. What was the last
time that they got a kill? It's been like
good 10 minutes pretty much unable to
so find anything on the map. They have
four kills, their last kill was at 16
minutes to a tusk, their last kill on
anybody that wasn't Tusk was at two and a half minutes.
So haven't managed to kill a core? No.
Throughout the whole game, that's a really bad sign.
It's definitely one of them. And again, it's one of the bad signs.
Yandex. Wingate rotation moving fast across the map.
They might be able to find him here, GPK. His network is very, very low for this stage of the game.
It's not good when you're below 10k at this point as the mid.
Forced to zip away, struggling to really find an answer and terrorize, but won't matter.
Snowball killed for Maladich who's continuing to roll, so 13 has that blink.
is going right let's see if Chara Junior commits with Orchid the just
purchases BKB thinking maybe Orchid is gonna be the item that Storm is gonna
be afraid of. GPK is still not showing his items so maybe he'll kind of wait it
out until he shows up on the component. And the Shattar is back here. They've got the Shackle look at the kill and that's up on the high ground there's no fear for Yandex.
continuing to expand and shut down these BetBoot heroes. BetBoot trying to get in, they're
going to rebound down save though, taking the damage. They'll reflect the break with
the microstrike and the BKB has been popping the ball lightning to try and catch. Mallet
at shoe is just so deep into the base of BetBoot. Ew, it vies, I would say. But, you
They gave them one back.
Sure.
It's still a kill only on position five,
but that's a one-farm position five.
The most-farm support in the game, level 14.
So that was a good amount of gold for them.
Well, for the Mars.
That was too deep.
LGD2 deep right there.
You never want to be in those zones.
They called them LG Deep at the time.
They did, myself included.
A long road to effective items here for Shadow Fiend,
BKB and Silver Edge is gonna take some time.
But they're not getting that kind of time,
they're not being left alone throughout this game.
Tusk back in and uh-oh, Yarrow.
Shards, Siam, Walrus Punch, no Lotus on the bike track this time, and Jack connects onto Watson, throwing back via the Lotus.
And now the rebound, they don't actually get the kill to Miero because Snowball was going to the neutral camp to get that stun on him once more, but because of the rebound, jumps away, and they miss that Snowball.
Get that kill.
Roshan gonna be respawning in two minutes, another Tormentor as well.
Malinich didn't get his shrine but Kethomie is still gonna be dead.
Watson on a mega kill streak.
I'm looking for that fight.
How they're gonna...
Kethonich has amplified damage.
Looking for a solo pick off.
That's the one.
But it's gonna be KB.
Nose dive, the right quick damage, doing some work.
But not enough.
They've got GM coming around from behind, they'll look for the right clean, that flies out.
That's gonna now be a little bit of a way to escape, but not a great way to escape.
Watson's here with a BKB of his own, gets the kill of Kiritich, if I don't get the kill of Jere Jr.
So they will get a core finally in this game, but Watson pulled back via the Vortex.
Snowball 4 saved that BKB running up from the arrow.
Saved, and nowhere to be found because it's Soxa who's got the save of the disruption if he'd be,
but the Lotus onto Miero runs out. Here comes Soxa, disruption.
Hope Stompus is a bit of a desync from the side of Nandex.
They want it. They want more Lotus Shackle thrown out, but Snowball reflected.
That stops the Shackle from connecting onto the storm behind the arrow.
They look for the angle, but they can quite get another host off into the walrus buncher.
Well, vice versa, and the arrow ends up dead.
Blink away from the dark will, the TP out from the storm, save.
Now he's here, but now he's trying to get away,
and the shards aren't gonna be enough to get the kill, he'll just TP in the Shadow Realm.
Maladish, he wanted to have the angle, maybe trap him, go with the tumbler stall and then snowball onto the creeps, but
a bit too quick. It's also showing some signs of life, Shadowfiend did get to Requiem, but they also need extra bit of right-click,
even though there was low Disorb and Focus Fire reflected, Windranger pops the Windrun, so you're not receiving any of that damage.
Let's see if they're gonna be able to contest the next Roshan, contest the next Tormentor as well, because it seems very difficult,
and I like that Watson also did go for like these are the items that you usually buy on Windranger
sometimes you see BKB coming slightly later because there's a very good Manta style game this time
around it's Hurricane Pike it is BKB he has the protection knowing that there are no BKB piercing
abilities the only way he dies I would say if he gets jumped by the storm by the shadow fiend
What was that?
He's the one getting jumped now.
Snowball, rebound BKB, look for the requiem,
and now the battle on top of Maladich,
but he's able to get it out.
And of course, have to get that distance away
from the shadow fever, the boinkum,
with the host off from TNN to kill on a safe.
Didn't catch him the first time around
when they were in Yandex's jungle,
but this time in Betoone's jungle,
Yandex have a kill on to safe.
Right in front of Roche.
Focus fire ready, let's tag team.
This Roche on die so quickly.
Should be another Aegis for watching as he steps up.
It's the Aegis and they've got a banner on Tusk.
One outer tower remains for Radeon.
We can see this move in Unture Junior, but he pops that AKB off immediately.
new something was coming still the damage right click damage from shadow think
exemplify damage should not be underestimated and you can see even with
lotus yeah that's the lesson in 75% of the words were beat out that's just
Dota players right there.
It definitely feels like a lot of comms here.
Maybe filled with some expletives.
You get excited.
It's part of the excitement.
Snowball then gets reflected.
This was good to stop the shackle from connecting Miero to GPK.
Well placed to stop that connection.
That Watson probably would have killed both of them on.
They get the kill on Miero.
They look for the rest of the TP out from Storm.
Though you can see the struggles, as they're going to look for the Requiem of the Curse
Crown.
This is the Aegis.
Tusk not able to get the save, and now they've got one to land now.
We'll see what he's got going.
Snowball, he'll use up the air care to check in the damage from the focus fire.
Here he is.
He's dead.
He's going to get the kill out of the Aegis.
It's actually indefinite to save his god, and he'll try to TP out, and it does.
But all that just for Tusk.
The only core that did die in this game is Viper.
They managed to kill Windranger just now.
As I said, the only way she dies is if she gets jumped by Shadowfinn and Storm Spirit
with the Requiem, but the follow-up plan is not there.
You don't have enough saves.
It needs to be pick me up, try to maybe get him out of that focusfire range, but once
we still had the BKB, he was very patient with it.
Once he respawns, Shadowfinn dies in literally two seconds.
FBKB not nearly enough and now there's a Daedalus on Watson.
The damage numbers are getting up there.
And Miero had the Lotus.
Now he doesn't.
We'll see if they just try to dive him with a Viper Strike.
Instead they've got the Brable Maze down and Watson's got the Lotus for himself.
General Strike doesn't really do anything.
These heroes will group up.
Don't have an Aegis anymore.
However, the index...
I think it's time. Let's see if DM clicks follow on his carry.
He found the Alpha Wolf.
Yep.
It's coming.
He did it every single time when he played Centaur.
That's all you gotta do.
Can't keep up with Windrunner, but...
Eventually we'll get there.
Where do they go on the side of that boom to just slow this down?
And Wyrth has kind of stabilized around that like 10k-ish mark, but it's just not enough.
Huge damage increase for Windranger.
Betalus, Seraph the Chiv, level 20 talent with Focus Fire, and having that alpha wolf follow her.
I like to play from Karatich, he's sitting next to the gate inside of Shadowblade, so
whoever gets through the 20 gates, maybe he grabs a kill, good amount of XP, good amount of
gold as well, GPK, he needs to run away. I think they managed to pick up only one
shrine of wisdom in this game on BedBoom Team. Ace Noble so heavily on spandex.
Yeah, they have expanded the belt line and continued to just grow this net worth lead.
But boom I've kind of just been quiet the entire time
They only have that one core kill on viper throughout the entirety of this game
Do you do what you can't kill the courts?
No answers, I mean, yeah sure it's a question if you want to die now, I don't think I have the answer for that one
They need to pull it off, like there's no agents this time around on Windranger, but
there is a double save, there's gonna be triple save later on once Centaur picks up Agadam
Scepter.
Work for a BKB now, might change his mind, thinking that it's still like, BKB plus
cart allows you to jump into Requiem, you don't care too much about it, you don't care
about the Bramble Mates from Dark Willow.
Defecate manage to recover good amount considering where he was. He still found a good amount of farm
Only 2,000 behind wiper in a game like this where they haven't killed a single core other than wiper once still feels pretty good
Considering where he was at. Yes
Gosh impressive recovery
Marcy's doing a good job of finding farm 2.
It's that kill from Maladich.
Heroes stacked up.
Bottom 5 heroes coming bottom 2.
Smoking go.
They've got the agonim Scepter for watsing but that's gotta go and get delivered.
That's on its way.
Empiric Menomorphic mandible.
Don't cut your junior, stampede, blink away, now to pick me up trying to get Kierjej out
to get anybody on the retreat.
They even turn back for a second, you know, instantly commit back to the base.
No interaction between the scenes, just a little backing forth on the blinks and movements.
Windranger also finished off her agonist scepter, which is in viz, so that's great, but also
35% damage reduction physical. I think Shadowfiend needs MKB. I see that he has
Daedalus in his quick buy, but somebody also needs to address this win range.
I'm not sure how they're gonna be able to kill her. If he doesn't have the
right click, that can go through a third. Like right click damage. If you can't get
the hit through from the storm, from Bristleback, spell damage, it's not there
unless you're using the big combo. And things like the index, they don't need to
rush anything they could wait out the next rush maybe get a pick off if they
find an opening they will take the fight but they don't need to rush it the
state of the game right now feels very good for them
he's gonna get the D word on the high ground
sure junior part of the difference out of the map the boots of travel getting
some extra XP why not when he can enter these fights each travel
That's that availability to be in these fights pretty quickly for the most part as long as the creep wave stays up
They are stacked up bottom again on Yandex
But it's 2 to 1 in the way that they're grouped for
Betboom characters using this silver edge to move around but the viper has shown back up over mid
DM's gonna go with the creep wave as he will look to finish off the complete bottom set of racks
the rest of the team pull off of
the creep wave DM included because he's got that alpha wolf just looking one more shot
gets it what a waste it's him with the voice sign immediately and nobody responding to that
small bad wolfie DM looking to lead the charge of course with the lotus and the tankiness
That he's got he's got me pipe crimson duo
They really stopping him there and now Shenarel is done shackles connect and save his death
Nobody to save him
Not really a lot of gold game there and it's beyond godlike for watching
Game kind of slowing down where yandex feel as though that they've got this advantage
Maybe they can wait till the next Roche.
They want to wait.
They're also prepping to siege.
I see Charity Jr. now with the Scotty finish.
Thinking about buying Agatham Shard.
With Aegis on Windranger, you should be able to go high ground,
force them to use this big combo,
and after that, it does feel like they're running out of steam.
Sure, you're fighting into Stormfrit, who's close to base,
so his mana regen is going to be insane.
He can get multiple zips in with the Shea'er's Guard,
maybe a bit of a kiting, but...
Yeah, let's see, Centaur, his neutral item, idol of Kroak Kroak, and it's a good one.
It's slow resistance, phase movement, extra bit of evasion, very good against Shadowfiend,
good against Storm.
A little of Skriak.
Yeah, that one.
Something that Shadowfiend, not Shadowfiend, Jesus, obviously the Skyrath Mage talks about
a lot.
They were smoked, they were nearby, but Kiritage envis with the Silver Edge.
And now level 25, the Focus Fire kills advance the cooldown by 18 seconds.
And it's only a 30 second cooldown to begin with.
Or sorry, it's a, yeah, 30 seconds.
Thought I read that wrong for a second.
Got my eyes deceived.
I'm just gonna sit here, made nobody could really jump him and get that kill, even with
all five heroes when he's got his team nearby his side. He is in no harm at all as they
will wait for Roche 13 seconds. Maldage will be the ward. Sit there and do some photosynthesis
and wait for Roche to respawn and two, don't show that clock. There it is, there's Roche
back up and he did commit to the Datois so no NTB and he's going satanic
afterwards so there won't be an NTB today. Maybe he thinks we can try to
deal with the rest but if this Windranger is not addressed she's just
doing way too much and again you're fighting into Aegis she's still about
to be picked up trying to go for the pick off can definitely get it on the
the other side of the map. All it takes is one shackle and the heroes are gonna die.
Game really hitting a hard handbrake here.
And the index. Again, have been dictating the entirety of the game.
That boom just trying to live within their worlds.
Kinda find a way to take over at a certain point when they're holding this high ground.
They still have to get out there and farm, which they've been doing pretty well.
When you look at the numbers, they're not that far behind for the cores.
There's a big difference between the Windrunner and the Shadow Fiend,
but maybe not one that's big enough where Yandex can take the fights as easily as they have in the Peps.
Yes, your only core to die has been the Viper up to this point, but overall...
Doesn't make me wonder if Yandex have a different feel in this game.
Yes, they're ahead. We see the numbers, but they lost a bit different.
The index lost 5000 net worth in the last couple of minutes, even though they are the ones killing Roshan.
Betboom team still getting something done on the map. It's only an 8k gold lead.
At this point it really doesn't matter that much. It's basically less than 2k per hero in terms of the items.
They've been sitting around this part of the map for Yandex on Betboom's side for a while
in between objective taking.
Byback situations, a little bit rough for Betboom because they don't have it for the
Shadowfiend and the Storm, but they'll go into the base, they'll find themselves this
dark willow, at least the start, and they'll get the kill onto this Viper very quickly,
Chir-Junior just not with the T.
He sat there, made it, he ends up dead.
T.M. might be in trouble there too.
He needs to try and survive.
There is a cheese, but it's on the tuff.
They get the kill of the SF, who now has five out.
So lots of the BKB now looking to get away from GPK.
They'll throw the Terrorize and land it on to this wind ranger
as they will find Maladich and get a second kill.
They bomb back on the Dark Willow.
Bramble's locking up Watson, but he's got the wind run with the Ag,
so he's back to Invis and will run away.
your junior getting ripped away from that fight very quickly.
I guess he was expecting supports to be behind him when he gets jumped initially
to get disruption, get the snowball saved.
Didn't happen, they blew him up from 100 to 0 immediately
and you can feel the power of Shadowfiend in some of these late game engagements.
This is why the 0 is the first pick material or the van material.
So DM jumps in and he's already dead on Viper and DM also in a lot of trouble.
It gets disrupted there, but Keratich gets blown up without using the ulti.
For the next fight, they do have Storm Spirit with Aghanim Scepter.
They can combine that with Kaya Yasha on Shadowfiend and maybe get the big requiem onto 2-3 people,
which is going to make the fight so much easier for them.
Now you've taken this fight, yes, you've killed Keratich, but there are issues.
And the attempt to TP out is successful for Miero.
And the fear of letting this game go does seem as though it's creeping up on Yandex a bit.
But the Ranger can still carry this game.
I see a refresher, a quick fly for Watson, he can still grow bigger.
DM, 5000 gold saved up, that's gonna be another save if two supports are not able to get any
saves going on the Viper.
Like, we've seen Vipers fall off in these mid-late game situations where he's very difficult to deal with
at the early game, but in these 40-plus minute games, sometimes he tends to fall off.
Watson, off to the high ground. Focus fire. Lith is ready.
Here, just gonna look for an entry point.
Rambles the damage by...
Not enough yet. They hit the break. It's gonna be on the wind right through.
They go to the back, they've got the vortex, they're sniffing with the BKB, BKB, BKB, BKB.
They look in, throw that Vifers strike onto the Bristle with the pick me up with the rebound.
We'll let him escape the grasp of Yandex. They're still working with an Aegis for 45 seconds.
And they're looking to rip down the top set of buildings.
With the annex of the vortex lands on two,
Laura's punches out to the Marci, the Snowmall gonna be reflected.
So that's gonna send them back towards Boutage. Boutage shrunk them in to the rest of the team.
Yes, he does hit a couple of occurrences, gonna be in a bad spot, tries to blink away.
BK gonna be popped as well as the Silver Age. He has to get back past the gate, but he can't.
Watson gets the kill.
It's gonna be another one on the Kephthoma. He's gonna buy back.
They do not buy back on this Shadowfiend just yet.
They might need the help on the SF as they hit the wall response on the same.
Dark low into Trolls. Still no one's again.
We need to get the reflection, but it's not gonna be fire. They get the Kephthoma saved,
and now the Vortrix is gonna land on the 2.
GPK trying to hold.
Garradge is still not there.
Marcy's in trouble. That's the only try to rebound away, and finally they get the kill on him again.
So he bought back. He's gone. Still no Garradge.
and they lose the Aegis on Yadex to timing.
They buyback now on Kerentich after the timing runs out,
but you need to get something for this buyback.
Where is it gonna come from?
Focus fire, balling in, that's a vortex onto Tulu,
trying to get control, but Kerentich can't commit in.
Fight for strike once more,
Eeralock in thanks to the shards.
He's got nowhere to go, they're gonna kill there.
100 seconds, no Bristleback, so it's all on GBK.
And Kerentich, the call GG, it's just too much.
1.2 gigawatts in in your face, and they're going back to the grand finals.
And Yandex, they have a look clean so far at Valakia. DM's performance pretty insane,
and looking at this game, they only managed to kill one core twice,
and that's about it. Every single kill that they managed to get was onto the supports.
And Yandex will clean. They eviscerate Betboom in this one, and man, they just had no answer for
this roster and we're going to throw it over to the panel to hear what they have to say about it.
Take it away guys. I think we're watching the team that's winning the tournament personally. I think
Valahia always throws up surprise winners. Do you think they went through the lower bracket?
A bedroom of course. Oh yeah of course. No no I am of course talking about Yandex sir.
Yeah they have just looked so good. Executed everything they've wanted to do.
the super cool drafts, like really high-level conceptualization, map movement, rotations,
like everything's been immaculate.
It's like the power, like power of standing and just I think also like all the players like understanding
what they need to do, like in the earlier clip, DM is getting like a triple kill and then here as well,
they're already up 3k gold, at minute seven, you know, save is dying, they're getting like the wisdom shrine,
everything is like going according to plan.
Overall for Bedboom, I didn't really love their draft, I think like this 23 Bristol back,
3 Bristol back. I mean this also you know he's trying to help his friends and you get it, but then he dies as well
But he's just having the BB you get this last pick Viper
You have like Watson Windranger who barely died in this entire game. I think this was one of like the more
slower games or like maybe more silent games I've seen from
Bed Boom and here as well. It's just a like a point one second
So I'm concerned with the TP he saves him
He now eats the remnant before it also hits like it's so many cool things. Yeah, you could make a
a point that like any of the players could be MVP honestly like even in the first fight the fact of
Watson is level five showing up to that play like having a power shop level two like a Mickey move
yeah it is absolutely a Mickey move and I think in the current patch of Dota you kind of need
to subvert expectations like that where maybe you'd expect like a windrunner to come through the
portal level six but instead he's understanding that if he shows up at that timing it's not going
going to be good for Beckman, of course. Very good for his team. I mean, it's risky. It could
actually not be good for his team. If they don't get some kills there, and he's a level
of five Windrunners showing up to that, it could genuinely be bad.
It means like a 14-0 Windranger in this game, I think. Like talking about the skill build
that I think Mika was kind of the first one, like I would say that Dota at the high side
was a lot about options. Like how many options do you have? If you go like this normal build
of Max, Shaco with the Windrun, you kind of lose out on like these TP rotations or joining
some earlier plays so I think you know pivoting where maybe you give it like 5% of laning but
then you can actually join fights and be in more plays because without this he would not be 14-0
and 15 but my bro was in like every play making all the moves just this was a near-perfect
gameplay from this guy. Yeah absolutely and it's like you said as well you know like anyone could
be the MVP and I love the way they dealt with the Shadowfiend we're a little bit nervous about
them letting it through and wondering what their plan to deal with it was well I mean we saw that
action during the game. Yeah, they had the counter. I mean, honestly, their whole draft,
this was like one of those drafts where instead of hard counter, you have the one hero. They had
like four soft counters, which effectively makes for- Is that the equation? I think so.
Four softs equals one hard. Equals one hard, I think so. I think that's definitely a good ratio.
It's also like if you look at like the laning rate, you have SD against Marcy. Like the Marcy 5,
it looked pretty bad in this game. I'm not gonna lie. Right, well look, let's have a break. Let's
Let's all sit back and enjoy another slacks interview.
Thank you so much, Richard Lewis.
Great panel, by the way. Incredible job.
I am here with Watson, the god tier carry of this team.
Sir, incredible work.
Both those games seem effortless.
You guys seem like you're unburdened.
That's how I would put it.
Is that how you feel?
No pressure, no stress?
Maybe just chilling and just enjoying games.
General chilling games.
Is that a little bit of what the stand-in buff?
A lot of teams talk about, you have a stand-in, anything could happen, you guys have a hell
of a stand-in in DM, he's killing it.
Is that why or is this just how you feel?
Yeah, I think we just, we were trying to find our Dota, we're standing because we were training
like we've noticed like for two weeks and one day before the flight he got cancelled
on his visa and we get DM.
So, yeah, first the games, like against Heroic, I think, there's two zeroes without any chance to be lost, I thought, oh my god.
But then we just decided, like, day by day, improve, talking about the other heroes, yeah.
And it just seems easier and easier for you. We've seen teams like Liquid, they're struggling, these are long games, 70-minute games.
You guys are closing them out quick, looking dominant. What's different about you guys?
How come you don't throw on the high ground like we just saw in the last series with Heroic?
Discipline. Discipline, okay. Discipline, skill, fantastic. Some could say, you know, you guys are giving them the yandicks.
I'm so sorry, that was extremely imperfect. Let's talk about your backpack. What's going on here? Can we show off the swag here?
Oh yeah, hell yeah. What's up with, I believe this is Blossom? Yeah, I don't know how it is English. Superpulse. Superpulse.
I don't know how it's in English.
Now you're telling me a story earlier.
You lost a Labubu.
Yeah.
Like when I arrived in like a hotel
two, three days after, I like looking in my backpack
and I don't have my Labubu.
So yeah, how was my Labubu?
Here I have Quinn.
You're saying?
Quinn, that is Quinn.
It says, good luck on Quinn.
Great.
Yeah, and of course, Siwai.
Oh, and Siwai with another good luck.
Look at that.
The whole crew is here.
Fantastic.
Oh, for a nice shit.
Oh, OK.
Oh, yeah, look at the Zoom.
We've got Quinn and CY there.
Fantastic.
Well, we can see a lot of people are rooting for you,
not just at home, but on your bag.
If anyone finds a libubu, please turn it in.
Watson needs it back.
Or maybe not.
You've been doing great since you lost him.
So go to hell, little libubu.
Never come back.
Thank you so much.
Can't wait to see you again in that upper bracket, baby.
Let's bring it back to the panel.
We will, well done.
Yeah, and digs.
talking about and I don't know yandex laboo booze what where are we that's
going also who's your favorite super puffs my favorite it's it's blossom
actually back in Han one of the greatest games of course yes one of my
alt accounts was I blossom I because blossom itself was taken you smurfed
yeah like 10 years ago react harder can you react harder that's illegal that's
That's crazy, Lockheed in.
Lockheed in.
Back to Yandex.
We asked ourselves a question at the start of the playoffs, could they keep it up?
And they have kept it up, they are keeping it up.
They keep it up.
And now they're in the final.
It's actually such a cool story, really.
Okay, I got this one, yeah.
I think Malady is a...
I love this guy.
We got to keep talking about him.
You know, Watson, keys to go, right?
You got this young kid, rank one for super long.
expecting really big things from him but he never had a support in lane like
Malady not only is this he's winning him every single lane it is I'm not gonna
say it's easy to look this good it's not easy to look this good but you can't
look this good if you don't have such an amazing position five that's coming up
with these new ways to subvert expectations in the lane beating like I
remember watching these guys dismantle crit in a more which is again not easy
That is not an easy thing. This is the strongest offline in Dota history and they make them look like they're smurfing.
That's true.
The final four.
Like Kezraik.
I mean to me, I think like DM as well. You know, he's the standard of the team. I've said it before, you know.
It's always not that easy. Again, he was without any deaths in this last game. I think he's enabling a lot.
Like for me also, you know, I think he's currently teamless or maybe making a stack with Astini.
You know, nothing too serious.
Astini plus five.
Exactly. So like, people should look at this guy, not just for this tournament, but to pick him up, you know,
you know post this Volakia. Indeed well thanks. Keep it up. Thanks for your thoughts. We're gonna
go to a break earlier today. Team Liquid were in hot water but the spirit had come back,
kept their tournament hopes alive. We're gonna see them again in a few moments.
I'm fine.
I'm not except.
Yeah?
He is, he's not following us.
He's not following us.
Blink, blink, blink.
Here.
I'm killing him.
My client is helping.
Mars is dead.
Okay, I'll help you.
I'm fine.
We'll be on the bike.
I will fight you
We are still dying
Yeah?
We can kill him, we can kill him
Raxus
I'll go for the pressure
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of the team spirit. Of course nothing tiresome about those two teams historically or indeed when they play each other, gentlemen, because if you want to see a game where you're going to see lots of deaths and lots of map rotations and lots of cool stuff, these are the two teams for us.
Isn't that right, Genki?
Yeah, I mean I like the word play by the way, that was great to put that on record
I think it's been great, but what has also been great is both of these teams are
Insanely active which is not always how spirit plays like there are some patches where they form a lot and then they hit some timing
In this patch apparently their timing has been very early because they will run at you
These are the number one and number two teams in terms of kills per match, you know
You know, Yatoro can play the 1v5 carries, like Morphling,
Ladderpick, TA, you know, the Faces Void, traditional carries.
But he can also play Beastmaster.
In fact, this looks like his best hero right now.
He can play Luna, you know, pulling that out.
That's more of an early game-centric hero.
Kez, of course, Weaver, like heroes that will go through the portal
and get really active.
But then on the flip side, it's a liquid is known for being
insanely run at you.
They'll connect with all five heroes.
And because of this, it means that the heroes that they can pick are very different from
what other teams can pick, because they can get away with it.
Like Mickey will play the Monkey King, Nisha will play Lina Mid and be more of the traditional
carry, Ace.
Why is he Blank, he's not in the high cortisol gaming here?
He is playing very low cortisol gaming, low dopamine gaming, he'll just give him his
centaur, his tight hunter, he'll build auras, and Ace is like rinse and repeat, do the same
thing every game.
it's it's mostly been rinse the thing is the tide yeah he gets a lot of shit but
it's like it is very convenient to have a guy on your team when you it's the
right patch for him when he's getting the heroes where he knows how to like get
some advantage and turn it it's like there's a lot of games where he is top
net worth on some tide underlord and he will still build the ores every game
maybe not so much in this tournament he's had some rougher games you know
was the agonist after drop on on like Larvao. Oh yeah that was for example but
when a player like this is on fire it's very convenient to have them on your
team. Sure I'm talking about an off-lane Kazoo obviously his rival number is doing
something a little bit different as well. Yeah I mean look at this guy you know
no one is really touching you know the Pangolier you know they're all keeping
him like the way Tylong is like keep him chained up but this guy he pulls it out
he gets a defuse of blade he has a different take on the hero you know you
skip the shield crash, you get your like the armor reduction from the passive but
he's doing like really really good on those and it's also they have like really
cool other things that they also do in the draft so I'm hoping that for this
series Ace, he has been playing good or like well you know like an in-between I
think he needs to be solid this time around. Yes I mean we watched a collapse
earlier as well when he did an interview he was talking about time
delay and he says that even after the nerfs he still thinks it's a good hero
He obviously was joking about Magnus being you know, it's dead forever. I'll never bring that back
But he says he the pingo does so much in certain games that he thinks it's still good
Which I think is also first of all, it's funny in a way that no one else is really doing it
I think I'm more dabbled with it once but this is why you cannot trust pro players like I remember Quinn at every tournament would say
This year was dead. It's unplayable. Maybe it's unplayable from it might be true
But at least from the off lane it's looking pretty good
And if you look at my bros here, you know on team spirit when you look at the the drafting pattern right with you have the
Pango and the weaver the SF and the slaughter SF and pango
So if you look it's not like too complex, but they value like the minus armor strand, you know very highly
It's like this you know
Exactly like you can take the tormentor early. You can get around can it's very good
So you got to keep your eyes on that if you're a team liquid here to me
That's what it's really about is that there's a lot of focus on Roche
I mean, it's Dota, so there's always a lot of focus on Roche, but
there's such a flowchart way that the game can be played if you get a Roche on where like you take it top
Then you go for the top Tormentor you take map control by taking some tier 2
Because you have map control the next Roche spawns and then by that point
There's like a 12k gold lead and it's just GG and yeah, sometimes there's comebacks
But a lot of the time you went off of that in having the minus armor heroes, especially like an overwhelming amount amount of it
You can either get the Roche on or subvert the enemies Roche on timing Roche is the daughter equivalent of Congo
Of course like for all the home players out there that are trying enough for the home
You were just looking a bit confused for the home trash. It's great that you reminded me
I didn't really forget. There was a Jenkins in home. Yeah, he told me about that. Yeah, I
Shaped up my knowledge yesterday, but there wasn't a yetor in Han and look at this
I'm looking has been he is ascended into brother has been promoted to first-phase bands
Congratulations, Shaman. You're out.
I mean, Rue has been Shaman in seven games.
Like, that's a crazy amount of games.
I really do think, you know, we were talking about Roshan and Minus Armor.
The Minus Armor oftentimes is so that Serpent Ward can hit Rosh.
Like, that is the objective taker.
The big combo we've seen is Warlock plus Shadow Shaman,
where it feels like if you lose a fight,
there's this snowball of objectives that happens on the map
Because of all the summons that come out. Yeah, I mean, I am wondering a bit
So of course, you know, I was talking about like the big four that you kind of want to ban out bad writer is left in the pool
Mm-hmm. What's what is this? So this is a pre-band just for later. This has to be for their second phase. So like they're
Like spirit must have an idea because first thing like first pick house grab and it's not really that normal
That is in for they they legit are saying ace you can't play that
Yeah, that's exactly what I was gonna say. I was gonna frame it a little bit more delicately by saying how is Ace's batriding?
But yeah, I mean what Spirit are essentially saying is we're not afraid if Ace takes it.
It's also because they have beat this hero. I think it was maybe even today or yesterday.
They played like this Weaver plus the tree in combination. Of course, they can't have tree this time,
but there's also, there's a Windranger in the pool. We've seen that answer many times, wouldn't be too surprised.
Weaver as well, if you want to bust it out here or in the next phase.
And we've seen the oracle is a very good answer. Yeah that too. So there are options
Appropriately for a draft. I wouldn't even mind
Straight up first picking oracle
Okay, never mind they go for windrunner, which is what we've seen
It can go both ways
like
It can here's here's the interesting thing about this pick and ace as a player
Is that he is the or a guy?
Right like he wants to get two items and run at you, which is the traditional thing now. We're seeing on bat
Win runner is good against this, but she's not good against the blink dagger bat
Collapse on the other side has been going early blink dagger on bat rider and playing kind of like the old bat
BKB after that playing to like carry the game play for your own game rather than play for your team
So this is almost spirit saying like ace if you can play bat and you can also play it in a way
that is not necessarily comfortable for your playstyle, it will be good against us.
But you don't do that, and you follow the flowchart every time, so good luck.
It's an interesting gambit.
I think that's true, because you have some players that have a harder time, I would say,
to break out of their norm.
And I think that Ace could be one of those, and at the same time as well for Spirit,
they could pair up the Windranger also with the Oracle.
then it's kind of like it's not easy to play the blink build if you do go for the ores windranger can
like still kind of own you i'm also like looking back at this huskar huskar band maybe it has a
little bit to do with there's a world where spirit could look at a puck themselves on like the next
phase then liquid don't really have it on 18 because when you play against liquid and nature
in like in particular 18 puck needs to be on your mind whether you pick it ban it or pre-pick your
heroes that the hero isn't good i'm sure they're probably having a chat about whether or not they
They want to use a ban on the Oracle.
It really just does so much to the bot.
I mean, I think they should.
And I don't know if Panto is the best Oracle,
but also when we have looked at some of these match-ups,
like Jenkins showed not just the interaction of Oracle
versus bot, but what it does for your mid player
when you get the runes and have this rune control.
Because yeah, it is Nisha versus Lar.
So both teams, of course, they want to play around their mid.
Thanks, Spirits.
Turn to ban.
That's another ban we've seen when a team picks
that, I can't help but feel that Oracle should replace this hero though for most teams. It's
just that it's such a fresh hero in the meta that people are not thinking about it as much.
Which is a little surprising for Liquid considering they're the team that started picking the
Oracle first even without a bad writer being on the other side.
Something I could see for Liquid later on the line, maybe just to make a little more
sense of the support bands could be like maybe a Marcy support like help your
like bad to get on top of the Windranger take out the supports that like in a way
protect that very nicely you know the Stratter has a glimpse back on Bane you
have like the sleep to protect because I'm just looking at like the post for
heroes Rasta was taken out there's no SD so if you're liquid I think the next
ones that come to mind for boxy is like it's a tiny and it's the Marcy and with
the Casband maybe Spirit are looking at a Mars themselves for like this phase
what makes sense?
Just thinking a little more about the Oracle and like why Liquid would leave it in and it's maybe well number one because they have some
answer to it
that's very possible and
Probably true either way, but maybe the other thought process is ace is gonna be like jungling and playing his own game and playing with
Oras so it's less about
Him scaling and taking off the sticky napalm and taking off the lasso like ace will just farm in
Jungle regardless and put aura's first team and it's more like Nisha that's doing the playmaking
So maybe like Oracle being picked against you matters less when that is not truly the playmaker in the game
That's true. I think it's also that he just kind of prefers like I know that there's a lot of players who are like
Oh if I'm playing this hero, I don't care if they counter me in the game
I just need the network so like if I'm able to farm and like creep skip, you know Oracle doesn't really stop me
doing that. I can farm my back cam so I think it's very likely. And it's how he likes to play
regardless of what hero he's on. Interesting. So there's a chance that this Bat is just either the
support or the mid. So like they're flexing it, you know, having the Mars being able to go into
the off. I mean it is one of the best answers to Windranger. You know there's a very high chance
Spirit didn't ban it because they're like, haha Batrider, he's going off lane. He's an off laner.
Yeah, sure. But I mean, come on Bat is like, actually Tofu will even play Bat 5. We have seen
that like liquid is a team with essentially two four point fives seems like it is a either boxy
or niche a bad writer for now so most likely the plus four and all boxy has played us a lot you know
like one or two months back before people realized well this year as an offlaner if you go to
tranquils into the drums into the boots of bearing is like super OP so it's it's a decent pivot but
at least for now there needs to be a bit more damage like follow up you know you have this
bad warlock mars they need more things to just like help them out this is really smart from liquid i
genuinely like this a lot okay yeah there's double downing love to this there's levels
so that writer gets swapped to support and they say okay we see it so you you swap that writer to
support you trick us into thinking it's an off-lane bat so we let the mars through you get mars versus
windrunner but guess what it wasn't a windrun windranger carry in the first place we're gonna
pick the faceless void as the carry and they have great stuff to layer into the
chrono only between these two heroes like a good power shot a shackle to
follow up jikiro spells are insane into the chrono this is a really cool draft
I also I will say that I like the slaughter a lot because there's a very
high chance that liquid should be in a way looking at Ursa I mean we have seen
Ursa warlock overall like you know I have very good success against slaughter
but when you play against void it is really not that easy to find this carry
So having a carry that can jump the void or you can build the agonims to still use your old in the corona
And you play for the ages yourself. It's really nice
But at the same time liquid have used their 18 pick mostly for Nisha as far as I'm concerned
Yeah, and puck is still there so starters like that also his lovers that too covering that yeah now this is this is like
Masterful drafting from both sides like this is really really cool. They heroes like look vanilla, but it's the so many layers to it
There's these assumptions that you're making about it based on current meta, and then the subversion happening where they're getting good picks, and then it's happening from both sides, so they gave themselves like these essential play options in the draft.
If this happens, we'll do this, and this has happened like three layers now.
And this is also like, it just shows, I think like here you can start to appreciate that if we do something, it creates like a answer from the enemy, and depending on how they answer, it now changes what we want to do.
And I think it's like really cool to see like this draft unfold because if you look from like the outside
It wouldn't really like happen normally like this this pick. I like quite a lot
I think we had a morph versus void also yesterday didn't work out
I think it was a courage void who then ended up winning the game
But morph as well he builds man tag against these heroes, which is quite nice
You can get the shard against the void you can also play for like the Roshan and the ages. I like it
It's pretty crazy to turn into like almost all of the heroes on here honestly even Jekiro
Just using like the stuns and the E slaughter. I remember when they changed
Morphling so that you kept your own stats like in slaughter was very popular in the meta people were like
The slaughter counter is more fling. Yeah, because you turn into slaughter have a ton of agility in perma bash
It's it's quite insane. So in Ranger 2 is it goaded with windrun game. Yeah, it is
So which makes it a crazy morphling pick
I mean, okay, so you have most like, I mean, yeah,
Liquid will need a mid hero, so you're kind of looking for one.
Let me see, you should assume Spirit to pick a new offlaner, I would say.
So if you can pick a mid hero where Sardar feels bad, like going mid against,
I think that's kind of nice, so it could be like a co-op maybe in a way as well,
I think for Liquid that they could play through, like blind out of the phase.
Because if you pick one of the Spirits, I think Slaughter will be very happy to go, then they can put the Slaughter mid, he's happy, they now pick a new Offlaner, then this guy is also happy.
So if you can make the Slaughter mid feel not so nice, I think that would be good for Liquid.
Yeah, forcing the Slaughter onto the Offlaner would be super nice.
Yeah, that would be like a draft win in a way.
Yeah, Morphling is very happy to play against a Slaughter like that. So I like the idea of Queen of Pain to do this.
This is also Nisha, he's obviously played through a lot of the other scenarios, like being high rank and playing all these games.
You might have something where he can cook it up in the game.
But something like follow-up damage for your team is kind of nice, you have this bad rider with the lasso,
you've got the arena to lock things down, so I just feel like it fits, like it ticks all the boxes in a way.
Nisha Koop as well, that's a pretty nice one.
Tiny is in the pool.
How is...
Yeah, I was thinking about that too.
How is Sardar into Tiny?
She should be Sardar's favorite, right?
It should be at least slightly.
I think it's still okay for Tiny.
It gives him something nice to play through, which is nice.
Okay, so now if you're Spirit, I feel like you probably want to put Sardar mid and Tiny
and Sardar both okay with that and then get, sorry, they're good. Maybe like a pango.
Something for something for collapse. Yeah, like pango to roll into the arena feels super nice.
Yeah, like you have good counter play against the Mars. You're good against warlock. You don't
really care. You have if you have double minus armor with the Sardar pango or or out on doom is
bad. That would be quite, yeah, they definitely took that out immediately. I mean, then there's
the world where you say, okay, I'm just going to play the often Sardar with the wind ranger.
We have a fine lane la what do you see in the mid lane that you can cook like can you shut down?
Nisha because a lot of their early game it comes from him like on the tiny maybe you can do that
I guess Queen is it is it maybe for them then yeah, yeah, it's okay
Okay, all right sure
You know underlord tight hunter both good against morphing because you're reducing his
Damage his base damage and he's got such high damage
strong and lame with the windrunner like super kill threat with the minus armor and the windrunner right clicks
The lockdown is good
I think they definitely needed a little bit a little bit more lockdown on top of the the chronosphere
You can't always rely on that big beefy boy to run in there and kind of face tank for
Yatoro to hit big chronospheres. He's a very big anti-team fighter
I mean that's generally what Tide does but especially against bat against Mars against warlock
It doesn't matter who really goes on him, so unless Liquid can play for a tossback on the tide, or you get this silver edge moment on the morphling,
I think Spirit should always have the advantage when it comes to overall teamfighting.
And I think while I really like what happened in Straf, where you swapped the bad to somewhere else, you picked the Mars,
I think Spirit found a really cool answer with this face's voice slaughter in the second phase.
So Mika has to really impress me, because I'm leaning on Team Spirit here on this draft.
I'm very impressed with both drafts.
I think this was just like master class drafting from both teams.
Very beautiful stuff. They both have options.
It does feel a little easier for Spirit to execute this one,
but Mikay got his like 18th pick, you know, perfect pick, Morphling.
So there's potential there for him to just 1v5 this.
We did see this matchup previously, Void versus Morphling,
and it was not great for Morphling.
Like maybe Morph as a hero just isn't that strong right now.
We're kind of seeing why in some of these games.
All right guys, we can actually go over the slacks now is with his old friend blitz
Bring it in bring it at baby. We are here blitzed out a king of the tournament so far
Don't make that face like I said something offensive that team liquid still strong
You've had some struggles in a rough series today, but it's not so bad. We suck. What can you do?
Hey, absolutely. Well, I know a lot of guys already that will agree with you
Let's turn their opinions around though. Hey. All right morphing pick seems like a pretty killer morphing game
You got a good lot of good stuff to steal seems pretty strong
However, now you're going against a tide hunter mind its armor a little bit of stone you're in it all or you like the morph still
I think we saw like the morph this draft was kind of interesting because
It's like we play against each other too many times both teams because everybody just flexed like nine different heroes
We bad writer they win ranger that we do the next play and then we Mars and then they're like faceless void
And then like you don't know if it's position for faceless void and Nisha's like maybe this will happen
And then we just kept doing the wheel and it was kind of funny because like normal teams
Like neither team would be super happy about their draft because it looks so weird and funky and it only happens like this when you
Respect and play each other a lot. It becomes as weird like hodgepodge of like you're playing your own internal like dance
Well, I can definitely tell that and in this internal dance, since you know each other so well, are you happy with how yours turned out over there?
I mean, I think there's good elements in the draft. I think there's good elements in ours. I think either a lot of this will come down to skill.
I think their team fight, like their big team spirit, you know, but like we also have very good heroes. I think it's a very good morph game. So we'll see.
I'm really interested in Nisha's Tiny. Of course, they banned out the Star Spirit. They banned out the puck.
Nisha to me it reminds me of tiny he started as this little you know dilapidated creature and now he's like
He's a huge and upgraded. Do you think that he can upgrade even more and get even more swollen big the final level?
I think like we always joke that like we're just gonna take like a ton of Roy's and he's gonna get like
19 times bigger and it'd be kind of funny if like, you know
He's just wearing like xxl shirts all the time and he's just like walking around like this and he's just like breaking things in half
But naturally, I don't know. He's he could definitely be more disciplined about his diet. He's a lot of sugar
What a piece of shit. Okay, let's get into the game. Hopefully he wins. Nisha best of luck and blitz dance on out of here, bud
That was
Quite the dance, but they're gonna be doing the song and dance over me and Nisha against Laurel Sardar against tiny
What do you think about this matchup? How does it go for Nisha? Is he going to get big in Swall?
Well, eventually with level 6, but I do like Slardar in this matchup. Slardar in the melee
matchups does tend to do well. Slardar from the mid lane is a different beast compared to the off
lane Slardar, which allows you to get earlier blink dagger. You are getting more levels,
also means your corrosive haste level 2 is going to be online. Maybe even before you kill
Roshan so you will have that damage and two basher's of team spirit. You have a void, you have
Slaughter as well and also Morphling. Like the panel talked about, let's mention it's a good
Morphling game in terms of you turning into one of these two heroes having high agi, even Windranger.
Like Tindalation is super obnoxious to play against. This is something that Tiny doesn't
like to play against either and one of the spells that we've seen utilized even from position 4
or to a great extent.
To see how the Morphling does end up handling the middle-aid game,
running that Power Shot flying in from Rue.
This time around when you've got that Support Windrunner does have that kill shot,
holding a skill point for the moment,
maybe seizing the opportunity and you're going to need that if you want to play offensive.
You go to the shackles if you need to run away, you just go and get the Windrun
if you hold out that skill point for now.
Let's see what ends up being the case for the Windranger and up top we've got Panto Yuturo
combo of the Jikiro and the Void facing off against this Mars Batrider and we've seen
a lot of flex from last series to this series.
A lot of heroes that we saw in Core Rolls now sitting in the support.
Laurel, trying to play a bit more aggressive in this mid lane.
Doesn't have much region to work with, but water runes have been picked up.
You should get a water rune and just kind of sit here under the experience that Laurel has.
I think Team Liquid should region up more from water runes.
How come?
Because it's H2O.
That's a hot quality H2O.
Get a little bit more region.
Could you then later at like TI and stuff when you're getting the gold and silver representation of liquid as a fan, do you get that buff as well or is it just the players on the protein?
Everybody does.
Everybody does, okay.
I kind of feel like maybe Morphling should get double that buff being on liquid and being made of H2O.
Yeah, but there's a counter to this morphing that's we're gonna be seeing in the game
It's called dead in the water, which is a very good shard against morphing throughout the whole game
Even though Warfak has high attack speed so he can kind of kill it with the man to style and everything
So far looking at the mid lane
Slarl dar he is doing a very good
He is sitting at 20 CS and 60 nice, but so is Nisha Nisha even in these matchups. We've seen him like dominate
the matchup that he should not be winning.
We saw him pulling the creeps with Marcy Courier as well,
playing against Haskar on that tiny roaming, being level four.
So expecting Nisha to do good and be off to a good start still.
Yeah, it's kind of insane when Nisha has been able to accomplish
even in lanes where he has no business even getting anything out of it.
Meanwhile, Ryu getting two Couriers will give a good amount of gold over
for the entirety of the team as win-runner grabbing both of them.
And we still sit here top looking at Yuturo,
who threw that time dilation out on the ace on this Mars.
Also, pretty good Mars performances.
Yeah, I also want to see what he's going to be building, like on-faces void, like which skill build.
We saw Kerrithage going for multiple points in time dilation, because it's so much slower now, ace.
Like if you combine that with J'Kyro plus Lag grenade, it is an insane amount of slow that Mars doesn't like to play into.
He's only doing with that liquid frost and the two breath combo that continues to get thrown his way.
He has to back off the lane.
but he will sit back and heal up a little bit,
but he's not got a lot of health for the time being.
See if he ends up in any trouble in that lane.
They're just trying to get the vision
and maybe pop this morphling.
With a kill shot, there is that potential
to land a kill shot and get a kill like that.
Still five and a half minutes in.
We'll give her that first blood.
TP away from the Batrider, this might just be it, Panto gets boxy.
A little too aggressive in trying to pull these creep waves from this Batrider.
Not an easy lane for Liquid today, Mars is still getting good amount
out of it, but
a lot of the time you see Mars do well, level 3, level 4, and then he kind of starts to struggle,
depending what he's playing against, if he's playing into these more aggressive carries like Ursa,
very strong supports that tend to zone him out, you need to pull the creep waves
and one of the reasons why I think Liquid also
decided to go and cut the creepers, because if you check the bands that they did
it was Shadow Demon, it was Bane, and it was Shadow Shaman. These three heroes are
extremely good at stopping you from pulling the wave as a position 4.
A lot of supports for both teams
shifting over to mid, Fatal Bond's out of two, Panto low.
Power shot flies in, doesn't do a lot of damage, but Panto, he needs to be very careful with how low he sits, and how bonded he is to Laurel.
Toss comes in, neither of those heroes end up dead.
Anisha even looking further under the tower just to grab this creep wave and keep it away from the slaughter.
mortar. They're toss some more damage and a tree thrown for good measure.
Constant harassment coming up from Nisha. He does have Sol Ring available.
He's got a has unlimited mana in this matchup. We'll pick up the rune.
Box again the other one. The shrine's won a piece but the one killed in the first
blood it is a 1000 net worth loot for spirits. They do have this small slight
advantage. Laurel, he is farming the jungle, the big stack of these creeps
already gone. Meanwhile Panto was trying to collect some of the XP in the
mid lane. The game is gonna be a bit on the slower side, it is Tidehunter from the
off lane so he wants to farm, Batrider is gonna be creep skipping, lap until Laurel
gets his blink dagger and also faces Void. Chronosphere now available. We did talk
about itemization or like just a scale build that Yattaro might go for, he is maxing out
time lock, wants to have extra bit of damage to be able to kill people inside a chrono,
it's gonna increase his farm a lot. I think this game is gonna be a lot, at least early
game, how many stacks can we get going? You have very good heroes to clear the stacks,
especially on the side of Spirit, and it is 6 and 5 on Liquid.
decent amount. Nothing too crazy. 8 minutes in. Stacks and taking these stacks.
Boxie just trying to make and take his own. Shackle doesn't connect anything,
you should though. Not really too bothered by what ruined Pantor 30s way.
Initially, is anybody gonna come try to go for this Tiny? He does have Toss, he
does have a haste room chasing. Not exactly the most effective way to go
about it, but blocked it on that haste room for a second knock in a matter.
Nobody's coming over to mess with Tiny for the time being.
Yeah, Major Kira happily tosses Dragon into the air, so he's gonna be fine with that.
And yeah, only one kill.
We also need to talk about carry-to-carry matchup.
We've seen this exact matchup when Kira just was playing it the other day.
I do like Phasis Void because you have lockdown, there's again no real save during the Chronosphere.
And this time around they have a bunch of spells that they can throw into Chronos.
It's just one power shot, the fully charged Shakira with the macro pyre, any follow up stun from Inter slaughterer.
It's gonna feel good, the first chrono of the game.
That comes through onto the Mars, but where is the damage power shot? It's starting to get there.
But they go to the arena, they got the God's Rebuke, the two heroes in trouble, the avalanche, they got the kill.
They got the kill on a Banto and now they look at Rue.
Ooh, victory feast.
Insane amount of heals.
It's also very important that Nisha, TP's in first.
Tofu coming in second has three grimoire charges now. That's gonna get him to level
six and a half
Keanu Coffering will be available
That was not great from spirit kind of felt like they didn't really need to use that
Oh, it's so funny. I'm looking at Warfling. I just realized that both of them have a shark head
As a cosmetic
Big shark, little shark.
I don't know the names of many sharks.
I know Nurse Shark and Great White.
That's about all I got.
Hammerhead.
Hammerhead?
Yep.
That is added to the lexicon of sharks I know, but there's probably people in chat who know
all the sharks.
In fact, my name in summer camp when I was like eight years old, they called you the shark.
They called me Benny the shark, yeah.
I don't see any similarities, how come?
I had to take a deep water test as an eight year old and it was like ten laps in the lake
and I had to tread water for like a bunch of time and I did it as an eight year old.
So my counselor just called me the shark.
It didn't stick, huh?
No, then my brother got called a cop. I got called B cop and the rest is history
Avalanche and the chaotic offering on the tide hunter
Let's get a try and survive but not looking like we power shot doesn't really do anything coming from the windrunner of
Spirit and tofu. It's that killed onto collapse
You know Alpanto in the mid lane playing with the catapult that's gonna be tower for them
Everybody getting the gold and also Yatter pushing the top way again playing with the catapult
This rotation, in favor of Liquid, they are getting the kill, but also Spirit getting a lot of stuff done on the map.
Also, like when Boxy plays Batrider, I thought we were going to be exclusively seeing Batrider played from the Offlane role.
They used it as a flex, because he loves to play the hero, it's one of his most played heroes.
But he loves to get him out of farm.
Tranquil Boots, Soul Ring, he was the one who also started this trend with the Tranquil Boot Disassembly.
And now with the Sol Ring, that's gonna give him pretty much the infinite mana. You never have to go back to base.
We'll commit, clean break, ice path, not gonna connect.
He's nearby, but so are a couple of these heroes on the liquid that bring you to Toro Inn, who just have Chrono, but we time-locked Hill Chrono, the macro-fire plays down, but there's an avalanche from a distance.
Power shot again, Ace survives for a little while, but eventually ends up dead.
And Yichu was thinking about going in on a Warro, but doesn't quite get the connection.
That toss didn't go off. I think it might be related to Chronos here.
Maybe we could see that again to see what happened, because it wasn't cooldown.
He tried to toss somebody in, it didn't work out, and tomorrow he does continue to farm up.
On Slaughter, he is the lowest network core at the moment.
It's...
The same area where both of them want to take the farm, it's where Timehunter wants to get the farm.
So they are overlapping a little bit. Lord will definitely love to get some of the last hits to push him closer to the Blink Dagger.
Blink's gonna be pretty important for both these teams.
Close for Tiny and sort of right there, so both these mids are gonna have their Blinks at a similar timing.
You can only get the Neutrals, a lot of a couple of Ash Legion Shields, some Cobalt Cups, which you love for a Liquid.
You can see Misha happy with what he's got so far. I feel like his game's gone pretty well.
And now he's got this Blink, so this is going to be a position where Liquid maybe are going to try to use that, smoke up.
They've got level 6 on the Bat Rider, they can have the lasso to follow it up.
If they go blink, Avalanche toss back into the lasso, or even follow up the lasso with
Avalanche and the toss, they can pick and choose what they want to do.
Usually you would see these type of heroes on Spirit.
You have repositioning tools, they always love to play with their Magnus, I'll hold
that top, can you show me the Blink Beggar, that's going to be a kill.
But you have Spear, you have Tossback, you have Flame Break, and Flaming Glasso.
So, Laps, keeping in. Not caring too much about the damage, gonna give them the high five.
Trying to send them packing, we'll give the high five over.
Laps, slowing down Ace.
But, where is the follow up for this one? Ace is sitting low, he's got the help from Laurel, there's the Ravage!
And the Shackle connects, so Ace is in trouble, and Rue will get that kill, but Laps goes in for more chaotic offers.
Kofu's dead, Nishi doesn't have much more to help out with and they are gonna try and get this gold and get that extra hundred gold and it will be there for collapse so
You see that ace's name is got the ace in the spade and collapses the shark
He's looking like a card shark as he takes out this Mars
And it should probably be the tower for team spirit the first rabbit used as well
They get the kill and they also see that there's a lot more stacks going on in the triangle
Maybe we could see the numbers of the stacks again because it feels like everybody is just playing off the stacks
That's an early pipe untied, Hunter, 15 minutes in.
With phase boots, double bracer.
And the soaring, yeah.
Damn, 19 and 11.
That is 30 stacks if you're doing your addition.
I really surprised you did not have a different nickname.
What would it have been?
I don't know, Einstein, that was quick.
as fast and smart thick. Well let's stick with me cup and this seems like
Lara wants to maybe get another jump. Fatal bonded but no damage. Crushed but
the counter elasto puts him up on this clip and they're gonna toss two they've
got two acting as a ward here. What do you do about this? Pantos damn. Mickey's
got a kill. They're holding hands just trying to figure out what to do.
Guys, you're supposed to wear a clip once, not twice.
And unfortunately, they are in so...
I mean, Claps is there with a smile on his face.
They're gonna leave him.
No!
He doesn't have a teepee.
Oh, no!
He has a keyboard.
That's a one sad shark.
They dragged him out of the water.
He is land bound.
Oh, no.
Do you just keep people around him to make sure he doesn't get his courier?
I- they need to smoke up. They need to smoke up with Krono and try to save this-
save collapse.
Oh my gosh.
Just standing idle, losing out on farm.
It reminds me of King Shark from Suicide Squad.
As he just gets to do nothing the whole time
This is like from a pop game, let's see if he's gonna be able to bring a thief you right now
They get the kill on the ace his courier is dead for 40 seconds
He's still here. Would you rather be ace who's dead or would you rather be collapsed stick on the
I'd rather be so dead right now
now. Because at least if I'm dead I don't have farm. I guarantee it. 25 seconds for his
career, flamethrower, and then it still has to get there again. This is actually so crazy.
Backing up and trying to get away from these heroes, but the time walk in and they go and
get the chrono down, they're showing that maybe they don't need this time. He can stay
there on the cliff just watching as a Mars TP's in he can at least give cons but Mickey he gets the kill on a panto and
the trade supports so now the courier is back alive for tide maybe there's a chance because what will come first a
TP or I guess they maybe have to build a four snap to get him down. He could get a goal for a blink
dagger he could just sit here they're picking up the Bounter Runes it's coming on the courier they call
him collapsing from the fights because he's not participating. There's a tiny
and a Mars in the area and then Warlock's coming over. Yatoro meanwhile
he's been spotted they've got the last so they'll get this kill. Oh no! Collapses for you again!
Oh guys! This is not fair! I mean it's time to smoke and get him out of the
trouble just like let's see how much gold they have somebody buying for staff
get something and call animal control they need to help this show or an arena
is down to spear on the two man here and oh and Rue is gonna try a power shop but
he's dead too okay update yeah take out that um oh yeah you that right
Gold Peru, Gold Peru, great.
He popped a ravage as well.
What?
Yeah, he used a ravage, I don't know.
What?
Wait, what?
I don't know what happened.
I think he wants to get it out of the system.
He's taking one man.
Is he trying to for?
Oh my god.
Tofu's back over.
They're a courier.
They've got knobs.
They want to make sure that they know if he's trying to TP out,
because if they stop him TPing too,
that might feel bad as well.
I mean, you're just going to flank 4v5.
What time did he go up on this clip?
Do we have an exact timing?
It's been like good 3 and 1 half minutes already.
They're teasing him.
They put a courier by him and flew it around for a second.
Five seconds has the courier again.
I think he's a game, bro.
Yeah, I just bought something.
I got to watch his courier.
Art easy would be proud of this moment.
Like, look at this.
Look what's happening.
He's not even moving.
I don't even know if it's the RTCliffing anymore. This might have been renamed.
They get Yoturo's TP out. This is a courier getting close.
Nisha can save him with the toss, but he doesn't want to.
Nisha can stop his TP. He's not allowed to TP if he starts his TP.
Now the Obbs, they're all coming in with his TP, but Tide's courier has to go on a mission.
There's the arena. Courier's got a courier to Tide.
They get delivered to TP, but now he's going to be able to TP.
Tide's going to attempt a shot out of there, and everything's free.
But they get the kill and a ruin Panto!
So, two heroes, maybe a third, Laurel now dead.
Co-ops, finally gets to play the game.
Alright, he's back.
He...
Ha!
I mean, he would've had, like, look at his net worth right now.
He still has more farm than Laurel.
Ha ha ha ha!
Oh man, I don't think I've seen anything like this in a pro game.
I guess he can't fight Trikel anymore.
They set that up like that felt like lasso put him on the cliff and they immediately went for the toss
They knew what they were doing. I
Said these are like one of the best abilities that you can
Push people away repositioning tools. All right, let's focus on the game because I could I gotta go
Just couldn't think
Okay, wait almost a full butterfly now ready
They're on 8,000 net worth. I guess that does happen when you take, oh, double spear. Oh boy.
Laurel in trouble. L Lasso connects with Yatoro. They'll get the kill out of the faceless void.
Laurel now needing to run. There is no lasso, but they've got the chase. He can't blink out.
He's just going to toss him up. Avalanche, God's Refuge, and Boxy gets the kill. This time now,
tide he's got blink dagger he'll be ready this won't happen again still faster
than the average blink because most of the tides were they were going for
agatom scepter as their first item maybe that in the water and then picking up a
blink dagger but Mickey seems like he potentially wants to go for the high
ground faces void dead for 20 try to push in some damage and this is the
massive timing for Mickey butterfly lads and mantis style a lot of spells that he
can get rid of. Most important thing is going to be time dilation, corrosive haze, still
pushing some decent damage up to this tier 3 tower.
Collapse. He's trying to get that short. He needs to make up the farm. How is that possible?
I don't understand how Collapse for a second showed as the top farm hero on his team. And
that's without farming for 4 minutes.
He killed a courier or two
It just shows how important this guy is to the team definitely
Minute and a half with this ages they're sitting in the triangle. They smoked up on the side of liquid
They wanted to bed. Oh god class. You got to watch out
They've got him
Controlled with the arena and the spear. That's pretty tanky
And you will stand and take these shots from Mikkey, but eventually die as Tide hitting
Horde, the Tide Morph.
Spirit are in an odd point in this game, because they're now losing this bottom tier 3, they're
going to do a lot of damage with the Morphling at the tiny and work on the bottom set of
Rax.
Why not?
They don't have ravage, there is no time for 20.
It's not going to buy back into a situation like this.
You know, you're pretty free to take these buildings
and the creeps are in on mid.
So it might even be a little bit more for Liquid
as they start on this tier three.
But the Glyph gets used, they'll back away for a second.
Let's see if they stay,
because there's still 30 seconds left in the Aegis.
Yeah, you said more for Liquid.
That's more for Liquid is Ace doing the work.
Mekkei having a perfect game, 7-2 and 0,
and Ace popping off on Mars.
Right pushing him back, Yatoro time-locked Krono, BKB gets popped, it's a three-man Krono, okay, that's all for him.
And now the ravage! This is the combo they're looking for, byback committed by Batrider, but toss, spear, all-connecting, faceless, void, still alive, able to time-lock out Yatoro.
He'll end up getting away from the combination that they had from Liquid. The buyback from Bonsi leads to Elasso on Panto, and they get it to Kiro for their troubles.
They want to take the fight knowing that there are no cooldowns in Spirit, no Ravage, no Chronosphere available.
They're chasing, their pick-off potentially is very strong.
Diny, Mars, and Batred are all of them having blink daggers.
Off to the high ground, Solar Crest Morph with Butterfly, that tower is immediately gone.
Toss, collapse.
Remembering the bad times of being tossed and there's the spear.
With the upheaval, the shackle is connected, but it didn't matter. Collapse is dead for 45 seconds,
and this is a mid-center axe taken there too. And I'll be honest, I know it's not important
right now, but he really is a shark in water. All you see is the fin coming from the game in the
camp. Yeah, this is Sharknado 7. Yes, I can't believe they made 7. Tier 4 is getting worked on.
And just no answer from Spirit so far behind. I think they were playing 4v5 for all the
all the right reasons, I mean wrong reasons really,
that they just don't have the answers.
Avalanche comes in, Yatoro time walking in, time walking out,
buyback committed from this tide hunter.
They'll even look for Tofu,
Klaap's gonna run forward,
but he just does not have a ravage anyway.
They still want Tofu, but the last two hits
out of the face is Void.
Don't get that kill, but the arena committed,
still looking for Tofu, still chasing this Warlock.
He's got the shadow, where now the Avalanche
walks down the face is Void,
tossed up, time walks out, survives.
But they do not get that warlock that he tunnel-visioned on Tofu, able to survive the entire onsaw of a morphling, or of a faceless void.
Two set of barracks, four liquid, without losing a single casualty, also getting byback out of collapse.
Let's see if they're going to wait out the next roche.
Cooldowns are going to reset.
We would definitely love to have that Mjolnir available after a level 18 on faceless void.
Still, packing up a punch is just that the rest of the theme is not doing as much.
Almost 20,000 for this morphing. They just don't have the damage on Spirit.
And pick up more of these Lotus petals, keep it healed, keep it going, look at the difference in hero damage.
Dracaros, actually, the one with the highest damage.
Really a surprise, he had a couple of Kronos with Makrobire just sitting there.
Shackle, Link crushed, and Ravage committed, they found Morphly.
They get this kill, can they start to bring the game back by getting this Morph?
Chrono committed, and now there's an Avalanche from Nisha slowing down the damage that Shackle and Morphle have.
And now the whole permit game, they followed up with an ice hat.
The government have hired down two years down the side of Liquid.
Do they have enough to fight back? Time walks the game with Nige.
And now the gush collapses in the face of the smaller shark in this situation, cosmetically,
but they will get the kill on Tamorf and Spirit showing some life!
The basmeros are doing it. Once you get focused down by them, the end also faces Void,
another good chrono coming out from Yotaro, landing a two-man.
Can't believe that shackle didn't connect, actually.
But still, managed to get the kill.
And we gotta point out the very interesting build from Rue.
Having Vlad's increasing the damage on all the cores and also going for the Spirit Vessel, canceling the Blink Daggers.
They do have three Blink Daggers plus also very good against Morphling.
He has only one way of dispelling things that's Mantastal for now.
Elapsed, he's so back.
Yeah.
Both Net Worth-wise and Physically because he is with the team and he's showing how much he really does matter to this Spirit lineup.
The ravages have all been on point. He's making a big difference for this dire team in coming back, being at such a big deficit.
Giving enough time for Yotaro to start to catch up with a little bit.
Another small item for Yotaro.
They can get the Fuselblade, trying to burn mana.
I don't know any of the heroes. Like if you think about his late-game scaling, that's gonna be Mjolnir, DKB,
Disperser, probably Scotty as well, maybe a refresher. The question is, can they get another big fight?
Roshan is available in the top part of the map, Mikkei scouted it out with the illusions.
BKB next on the docking, Gatoro just trying to survive as much as he can. He's been very patient on these Chronos.
Even with the Avalanche that followed up, they still have the sustained damage throughout these fights.
to make sure that they can lock down the liquid, but now Roche is definitely the objective.
Can they get in on this?
It's Roche.
Peaks out, they know where the damage is coming from, because Roche is trying to give it away,
but the crush doesn't connect.
It would give them vision.
And now Ragnar and Shard would apply Corrosive Haze slightly off the mark.
Smoke comes in from Liquid with a blink, jumping them before they can even have a moment to really
take the idea of their hang on where they want to go.
But the Ravage isn't going to be enough to get out of the offering.
Arena committed, they're bashing away.
Laurel's got the fascist.
They can't turn into...
He turned into Faceless Void.
Luzon to Panto.
Lassum committed onto a Jikiro that was already dead.
and they will not have that for the faceless void.
Yattaro looking for the angle. If they group up, that chronosphere is ready.
And he runs for two, makes it, doesn't go.
Their throne is exposed, their throne is getting hit by these creeps.
They're looking for the stunts, they've got the chrono on it too.
Can they get the bashes out? Can they get the kill here on him?
Okay, he's trying to shift the time walk away, still surviving Yattaro with him,
but does not have the damage to get the kill out of the morph.
They'll take out Laurel, that's one half of the Bash Bro's gone, but he buys back immediately and has to fix the base as the Throne is getting hit by these creeps.
Roshan is now into the pit in the bottom. No arena, no BKB. Let's see if they decide to maybe go in or if they're gonna try to reset. It's being pinged out.
Moxie, thinking about maybe going in. Let's see. He does scout them out. Shield Rune on Yattaro.
No Chrono, no Ravage, big cooldowns for Spirit that they have to work to survive without.
And it is not easy.
A lot of time stands between their full team fight and fighting this Roche, but they might
still just go for it.
No arena, no chaotic offering for the moment.
Blink the crush on the two, and then the blink, spear connects.
It's out of the Sardar collapse jump scene.
Seating a lot of damage for Miki to go to the lasso.
It's going to be hit through on the wall.
He jumped over, but pulls him over, pops the BKB.
He goes up to the crush.
He's going to get the control.
They're trying to bash him up.
They've got two heroes bashing the team as well as the time off.
They're doing a good job with the kick of the kill yet.
Now the over Miki, who is surviving, standing tall in the sliver.
But the Proshan's tilted out.
So two heroes dead, they do not have the morphling, they lost the sword, are?
And here comes Batrider.
Fire up in a second.
Gets the kill in Yatharo.
Oh, that was so clutch.
And it seems like they want to run it down.
They do have Catapult in the top lane.
My back available for Yatharo.
Brochon helped out Team Spirit with a little bit of a clap there, but not enough.
He needed one second for the time walk.
If he gets it off, Boxie would not be able to get the Flaming Glass, so now he's the
one holding it.
My back also committed from Panto.
Pulldown didn't reset for Spirit.
Unfortunately, they did not have Ravage, they did not have Chronosphere ready.
They did not have it ready.
Did kill the Morphe, he's gonna be dead for 20.
Seems like Flick would did say that maybe he can steal the Aegis, he was 100% right.
Thought about the Ravage, Anchor smashing, going after the Banner, trying to get the Golem dead.
Now they'll find themselves Rue, they'll toss him back towards the rest of the team.
There's the God of the Beaks, he's in the spear, but it doesn't lock Rue on.
Now they go to the Ravage, he's gonna be out of 4 heroes!
Nisha's dead! Collapse! Again, showing white!
If you keep him on a cliff, yeah, he's gonna be neutered, but anywhere else, he is such an important part of this team!
They stop the TP with the Shackle Attempt, they get the Kona-Boxy twice!
But this is Spirit pulling this one back!
And this is with Doubt Yattaro only using one big cooldown, and that's Ravage, and he did manage to recover.
Now, sitting in top four, almost having the same amount of farm as Nisha, who was having the blast of a game on this tiny Enru,
trying to lift the spirits up, and collapse for that ravage, hitting onto four of them.
Yeah, look at this smile.
There's not many games you could say that you had your hands off the keyboard and mouse for five minutes, and still have to have so much impact.
This macro pirate a great spot as well with the fight where Roche is and make a China fight against Laurel
And then you tour who jumps forward you'd see the bashes
Starting to stack up, but we'll see boxy
He's around the area with the firefly waiting for his moment to go and steal Roche. I think I commit a steal later sir
100% maybe and boxy he was ready to jump in
The Ghost Scepter sneals it just faster, fingers Yuturo also dying in that moment.
And then collapse of course.
He is just too tanky.
Oh man, this game has everything.
Like they lost two early sets of barracks.
And their tier 4s?
They have no tier 4s.
Yes, they have no tier 4s and they're still managing to potentially make a comeback in
this game.
Yotaro, what is next on the line for him?
DKB does have a shard that he did purchase some time ago, but now it's a full Mjolnir,
which is going to be more damage, more attack speed, which also means more procs against
this butterfly on Morphling.
This game is only 35 minutes old and we have checked all those boxes.
This feels like the kind of things you get in a 60 minute game.
Big damage increase as well with the level 20 talent on Phasasoid, 100 extra attack speed
during the chrono. No Aegis. Those scepters.
Horal for a liquid. Also, you know, you were talking about it earlier today, where you're
like, you know, you gotta be a little bit cocky to do and have these big moments and
be a professional Dota player. He said, I think I can steal this Aegis, not only set
it then did it and I feel like that is what it was such calm
Pizzex the classic box to play I would say like this guy has been owning it for the last couple of years
He does it with stealing an ages I you know I tell my team hey, I'm gonna go get this lasted and then I miss
He's doing it on the big things
I mean that's potentially
Great comparison I gotta say
With the next round of items like Phasaswood also found
Tier 4, so the neutral item, Flare's Bota with alert, so extra vision
and also 30% attack speed, which is gonna give him extra 130 with the Chronosphere talent.
I can at the bashes available for Spirit have made problems for these heroes when they're
trying to do anything, but talking to heroes that try to do something with Spear Missing
from Ace.
And that was the tossback, potentially, trying to kill Tide, pulling away from his team.
Yeah, force it to maybe use Ravage where the rest of the team can't really connect.
You should look for an entry again. Avalanche toss on the Laurel.
They'll pop that BKB that's making the spear again.
Ace, Chrono on a 2.
Al, chaotic offering and trying to turn in the round.
They've got the damage coming through underneath you, they'll follow it up with the Ravage.
That's going to land Laurel, it ends up dead, but Ace is going to be in trouble with the power drop.
Letting him goes to the arena.
Doesn't hit anything.
Back south, Mckay.
Trying to put some damage in on the collapse.
You already used the Ravage, this Tidehunter.
They're not really doing the damage, but they've got the help with the toss back onto Yatoro.
BKB from Nisha follows up on the base of this void to get the kill to the Tidehunter.
He's gonna be dead for 100 seconds, does that buyback.
They back off into the base.
It's three heroes alive for Spirit as they also lost to Laurel.
The buyback's committed.
I mean, that's the Liquid have all five heroes.
They're looking for Megas.
Dust, pulling them back to collapse, running in.
He is this Tide, he is just hitting away at these buildings, this is still going to be
mega creeps.
Shackle doesn't connect on anything, time lock in Yutoro, doesn't have a chronosphere
to drop down.
And then there's that go-separate of the tossback towards this Tidebore, and now Yutoro focusing
his attention on Anisha.
The Shackle does connect this time, they go to the focus fighter, they have the damage
to get the kill, onto the Tidey!
He's dead for 100, collapse still alive after all of this.
Micae trying to at least help collapse
because he bought back but he'll end up dead too.
So two years gone, one each for each team, 100 seconds.
Long's coming, Micae, Laurel, Blink, Crush,
now in looking for the more flink but they're gonna go into your Toro.
He's dead for 90, he does not have buyback
and it looks like it's gonna be liquid here to secure this game
as they take out Laurel, he'll buy back.
Micae is dead but he does have buyback there too.
Let's see what the call is.
Let's see what the call is Wednesday.
They're going in.
They saw this Lincoln Sphere on Phasas Void.
Somebody had to read that he does not have buyback available.
It's a very costly one.
2000 gold, Marina and BKB resetting with the AC.
Extra bit of attack speed and minus armor.
Let's see how Mickey approaches it.
Just the Throne stands here for Spirit.
Link crushes looking to get the kill out of the Boarflink,
but they do not have their cores uptied and Phasas Void.
They're going to lose Panto.
Okay, turns into the Chikiro, BKB, Laurel, God, four heroes without five, that gets just through in this game.
Well, it's gonna go the way of Team Liquid for game number one.
They overwhelm Spirit, they almost kind of let it go, but they solidify a victory
40 minutes into the game.
Boxing, dipping collapse in the end, then collapse, typing GG with the smiley face.
This game pretty much had everything. A lot of team fights you saw them pushing really the limits inside of spirit
Very resilient team to to be like taken out easily, but team liquid they managed to do it in this game number one
So we'll send it back to the panel here
They have to stay up on their cliff and guys take it away
Indeed truly we have been blessed by the toads of gods today
We've had one of the most insane comebacks already today from team liquid
Then we have one of the most end-to-end games in a really cool series of two teams swinging for the fences
We've now had the most comical game of power getting ages. This is the highlights by the way
This is like top top three dota matches of all time for me
Yeah, so good in the fact that after all of this, you know, I actually think in retrospect Laura's like, oh god damn
But I got clipped. Oh, I'm dead. He's the lucky one. He's lucky. He didn't stay on the cliff for
Oh, he's going to die right here.
Yeah, yeah, it didn't collapse was in the bane pit for four minutes, dude.
I just it's like the funny part was also like this happened.
And then after I'm like, well, you can't really analyze that much.
You know, the game is kind of cooked after, but then they like start making a comeback.
So this is like five minutes, bro, but he was top net worth.
Yeah, it's been at 15.
They had a 2k lead.
Now it's five minutes later.
I think only now he's keeping out like even while he was cliffed,
he's like ravaging the ground.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm here for two minutes.
Your average is still on cooldown for this fight by the way, it's at 11 seconds on cooldown,
I used it on the cliff.
It's actually...
You know people on YouTube, they're going to be very proud because usually you just
see this in like your shit games.
You know some guys that are playing for the comedy factor, shout out to Jenkins Dota,
great YouTube channel, but here it actually happened in like a real Dota game.
Yeah, I know.
And then they're doing this, they're down 18,000 gold and they can actually win a fight.
I can confirm from one of them, Kaz was actually losing his mind.
He's going nuts. He was like if they if they come back and win this it's the craziest thing I've ever seen. Yeah
I but that's team spirit man
You can never count them out like I get the narrative about this team, but come the fuck on
This is never happened before
It's if spirit did manage to come back and win that game liquid is so cooked for game to like it's just over
Oh, sure.
Imagine you can't take a W for that.
Especially when you did the listen in and they're like, you know, easy game, bro, and
all of that stuff.
See, even here at Box City, it's like clutching, because they're kind of giving up the game.
Like, you know, they're finding, like they find these opportunities.
Like here, Gatoro, he's about to get an Aegis.
You know, it could go rough, like Miki here is down for 70 seconds, but Box is like, yeah,
I can maybe seal the Aegis, he just goes in, snatches them from them, they end up killing
everyone because here I was actually getting worried for Liquid like no cap.
Yeah, I would have loved to have seen the odds in that particular moment
because it should have been zero. It was, you know, you've got to play it. That's like
not playing, not fun. I mean, it's really not playing. You are 4v5 for four whole minutes.
And of all people, it's collapse. It's the guy that is like known for team spirit at being the
dude who starts the fights, the guy that makes it all happen. So that's why he would pick them
We're going to customize our stand up player for Team Liquid for this.
Yeah, absolutely. He definitely stood out. He stood out of the game for five minutes.
I mean, Liquid had to keep him like to keep it up and they definitely they kept him up on the cliff.
So, you know, they did the right thing. Yeah.
But my bro, it's a, it was a tough one for him.
But of course, you know, the one who got him up there, the toss God himself, Mr. Nisha.
He always finds ways to make weird things happen in a game that simply break the mold.
It's something nobody's ever seen before.
It's like so many times in this tournament,
he's done this in different ways,
whether it's laning or through his plays.
It is simply not something that Team Spirit
has ever had to deal with before.
I can tell you, after watching Herald games, what to do,
but it doesn't surprise me,
Collapsed doesn't realize.
The strategy is you send the courier off the map
all the way around and then you come from Liquid's base
because they're never gonna be camping that side.
but it takes so long to do that,
but it's less time than five minutes.
He was definitely copied there,
because his career died initially.
Then they had like a high ground award
that saw it like fly over and then these are like bam.
That was quick.
He sent a direct courier path to himself.
Like come on, you can't do that.
Like you can't do that.
I mean, whoever on the liquid said that,
leave him up there, don't kill him,
place these wards, that's the MVP for me.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, we can even look at collapse at 29 minutes.
This is what he was doing.
Because, you know, while his performance and what happened is kind of a meme, he had the
shitty Poland bag.
You never see this item.
But against Morphling, it's good.
You overall, you know, you deal max, percent HP, you lower his health region.
So you know, maybe it made a difference like in these games because obviously it was a
very hard game.
And I think also keeping up your focus in this game, like for him and also his teammates,
must be super hard because for five minutes, you're playing like a mini-custom game within
the Dota 2 competitive game that you're playing in secret of like, guys, I'm up here, like
help me get down, send me a TP, do this, like, what's going on?
I like that Rue sent him a Sentry Ward, so he could do more, by the way.
Yeah, that was a good one.
That was a good team play.
Like, Rue's still finding a way to support the guy that's on the cliff.
And by the way, ravaging the camp, good strategy,
because you're going to aggro over to and you can actually get some farm.
So this is why he was a higher net worth than Laurel,
despite being clipped for five minutes.
They killed the Ancient Camp.
It was the couriers in the Ancient Camp that he was farming.
So that was for the situation he was in, not too bad.
I imagine Team Spirit just laughing their asses off.
I hope so, like, I'm gonna do one...
I don't think that's it.
I hope not.
Especially because you brought it back after,
I'm just looking forward to the Team Spirit vlog
where hopefully they release some comms
or how they talk about this after the game
because you never see this.
This is not normal at all.
Like, am I going too far?
It looked like Team Liquid sort of
constructed a fight in that area
knowing they had the movement manipulation heroes
because it's not just the tiny touch.
I mean, it's like you're creating your scenario, but you're not planning for that. No, I'm not saying you're planning it.
I don't want to go too far with it, but it's like it was just crazy. They got two people up on the cliff and like you say had
Laulm up dives, it would have been even more ridiculous. Yeah, he's a slaughter as well. I mean to be fair, I think Laura had blinked
daggers so he could oh, he did. So they put the they saw that he has a pipe on tie. They're like, and they're like, he has just a
pipe like for this point in the game, there's no blink dagger coming. And if it did, it would have to come on the courier.
right so like they they identified like how important he was for the fights he
didn't have any way of getting down nobody had any way of saving him like in
these situations you genuinely consider okay does Laurel spend his 1400 gold on
the agonium shard or does he just make a four-staff because he could have done
that and got him down like three minutes earlier but then you're griefing your
game they were probably hoping like collapse will send his career specific
way like what you said and but ultimately like it didn't really work out
and like you're saying I hope they're not tilted after the game I can tell you
Like those five to six seven minutes in between. I think there's no way you're not at least slightly tilted or annoyed at this happening
Because you're not really playing Dota 2 anymore such an easy thing to write off though because of that afterwards
I think once the game is over sound like boys
Go next all right, and that's what we're gonna do
We're gonna take a break we'll be back after that short break to see if collapse gets to play a game of Dota 2
We'll see you then
I can kill them, I can save them
Should we leave them there? No, I can't
Can we leave them there?
I can see the smoke
Okay, I leave them there
Yeah, I don't believe them
I push up there
We just can't keep an eye on him, he's a tip-cast
I can cancel it
Nice, kill them here
Oh, no
Left on the left
I don't know
Left on the left
I don't think this guy has biobots, I think so, I don't really know, we're doing the fucking
Alright, let's go.
I don't know if he might have, but he bought Lincoln.
And he has give vision of fucking Jackie, I killed Tron in two seconds.
I'm gonna go over the count.
Over. Overlock.
How are we doing this?
Alright, let's go.
Kill him, let's go over the count.
I'm gonna vessel.
Dream, what's up, Dream?
Okay, understood.
I like how he was on the cliff.
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I only have a little that's fine. I'm T rexing
Skull for the Swedes out there post you shot
So post what I said, I'm glad he listens to me. I just it's a in one airing out the other one keep that up
I can hold it for you. Yeah, okay, so what do you think spirit do now?
I think it's the same thing is fine.
Yeah.
Van Tiny maybe.
Yeah.
Do the run back draft?
I don't know.
Oh no.
Mag Tiny.
Uh oh.
Badrider was also there.
He started all of it.
Do you think Collapse deserves this for all of the repositioning?
I think so.
I think he does.
It's the karma.
It's the karma for all of the AGES teams down the air.
Yeah.
It's for all the AGES teams, for all the like Magnus games he has against people with the
the horn tell skewer back so suck it that's another reason why I think you
won't be told it though I think you probably recognize this in the bigger
picture you know I've been doing shit finally he can understand what I don't
be other end of people for years it's my turn today the pain of repositioning
in Dota also this guy gives pain look at hilarious listening with liquid as
well yeah like at the end he was like like when he was on the cliff tofu God
he was also the one who called it and by the way I will spoil something in the
in the lobby chat collapsed said, need our TZ coach.
If there's a question of are these guys having fun with it?
Yes, they are. It's spirit that these guys are always having fun.
They're a very chill team.
Also, I think there's something cool like about the listening
because it wasn't like a let's leave him on the cliff.
I think sometimes what can be very good,
especially while in competitive games is like just asking like a question.
You don't always need to make like a fact statement,
especially from the support role more like, should we leave him up there?
do we need to do this? Do you need this item? Like sometimes you don't need the guy to just
say one comment, but just to like spark a conversation and start something up.
I think look like just again without trying to sound like a habit degree in psychology because
I don't. Keep it up, yeah. But obviously I think you engage more with a question than you do a
statement. So in the heat of the moment, if I go, do we leave him up there? People stop and think
and process rather than if I say, and you know, let's leave him up there. You might miss that in
the noise so really cool listening actually amazing how calm they just are in the middle of
a game too right like even later and like the negative it's like i think i can steal the ages
yeah i think i can steal it's like oh nice clean game guys show me the jacquero i will kill the
throne very chill like they obviously know exactly what's kind of happening so i want to see you know
in this draft so they do take out the bad writer they took out the wind ranger themselves there's
also no SD and this time around they also cannot first pick the Beastmaster as Liquid
themselves have taken it out so we have to see you know about the other usual suspects
the tree and the shadow fiend the froggy frog who's gonna be left in the pool.
Let's not see the frog it has simply not worked out for teams leaving it in then again Liquid
plays Marcy Kerry. And that is like the one thing that has looked like decent against the frog.
That looked super cool. I actually remember this from like over a year ago when Abad and
Offlane was like very prominent. There was I think Nightfall was one of the first guys to like play
Marcy Kerry against Abba because you just like heroes that can't really protect themselves or
just delay, you cannot delay against Marcy. If she has the space, she just kind of runs you down
And Largo is just he's just a nothing guy like in the lane
So I would really like to see that if it does get you know left open
Yeah, and depending on what's on it. I mean, so there's what SF tree and Largo. It's just bat taken out. That's
Kind of crazy. The Empire ban is also interesting. Don't you think like there's a first-rate ban?
So they obviously understood this, you know both things understand, okay, the OP heroes are in if we take this they likely take that
But I do wonder about this Ember a bit.
Like maybe they were also preparing if there's a different scenario and later down the line
we don't want them to have Ember.
So we'll see if it maybe makes more sense the more the draft does develop.
We also had the Huskar ban in the first game that we were also considering.
This was from Spirit.
Like where down the line is this coming in where it's going to be a problem.
We ever that's hilarious. I mean to be fair liquid has been playing around the tiny very well
And it's excellent with shadow fiend even as a four position the toss back into requiem is
Something to behold especially from an SF that's willing to get active super early on which
Mickey is that is basically the guy for that
And you saw that I think logos top three win rates
Yeah, I think it was something like T.A.S. A lago. I think yeah, he's pretty good
He's picked a lot, he's banned a lot for the right reasons, so of course 66% win rate in 21 games.
I mean to be fair, all of these heroes, I think it's not that common.
You have so many heroes that are picked over double-digit times with a 65% plus win rate.
Kind of sus.
Liquid are the ones that need to pick out of phase.
There's still, of course, the other usual suspects we often talk about,
whether it's a warlock or it's like one of the phoenixes left in the pool.
Okay, Shadow Shaman this time is not in.
I mean, you did talk about, I think, that Marcy has a potential carry.
I would also still raise it as a, well, a potential support.
I think she can do similar things, you know.
You can save the SF, you can also toss them in sometimes,
and like, combo with the Requiem.
You can play through the safe lane into the Largo, who you know is very slow.
I'm still waiting to see the Largo answer,
because I don't I really don't feel like just SF is enough I would I would like
to see the Marcy I agree with you yeah I guess you can maybe Tusk is also something
cool I like that too I think it's like very similar vein you can bully him
super hard in the laning stage I mean Marcy and Tusk are both pretty like damn
hard to lane against as a Largo that's where you need a good four to play with
the Largo and then also because you're talking about like the SF against Largo
I agree like you need more you can always think of like you want to like lock down the Largo
So there is a chance also where liquid could look to run back the Mars one more time
I think SF Mars is always great very good team fighting. You've got the arena and the Requiem combo very high damage
They synergize very nicely with one another
Yeah, and with a jacquero like it very much so lends itself to a Mars pick here
Largo likes to just slowly run away from you too. Yeah
Kind of like a scuffed centaur.
And so you have a 3 and 0 Jekiro on Tofu, which of course, you know, it's one of the better heroes.
I will say also at the start, like Largo's very fairly happy to lane into Jekiro, because every time
you know he spits on you, you just purge it, you get the HP reach, and so I think you don't like
giga care like that much when it comes to the laning stage.
Can we get the the Rue Lion? Lion is pretty nice, I think like it's just a hero
to block Largo from getting killed. You can always hex somebody and stun them and it's
enough chain lock down that it's hard for SF to connect three raises or for J'Kiro
to like run around and get into a position where you can have some kill threat on Largo.
I mean, I wonder a little bit for spirits, like what do you do with your other support
here? You could look for the most common ones that anyone can talk about, whether it's a
Warlock or Phoenix or do they have like a different idea where they're already looking at you know the 18 pick that you're looking for the
23 pig like what is your total talking about?
I want this year against the SF maybe it's a range carry then you can look for like more the melee guys
Maybe Larl is saying yo guys, I'm looking at 18 storm spurred. It's super good with the Largo like set me up
I want to follow up damage. I think right now
It's like very important that you don't just look at what you want, but also that your other course are like talking
I'm looking at this. Let's make it make sense already
That's why I would like the warlock like warlock Ursa against SS sounds really that's based. I like that and Largo plus warlock is
if you get a good fatal bombs and Largo runs in and
Keeps from this guitar. It's
So much damage. You don't even need a carry
You know case so let's see for liquids
Don't know if you want to like lock in your support like your mid here
Because you need to be like aware that if you pick a susceptible mid or someone who isn't super good against storm
There's a high chance for storm if you leave like an earth side that you just mentioned like very up in the air
You know spirit. They're always gonna be very happy to take those
So you need to look for a combo where you feel like you're at least covering yourself in some way
So there's the Mars you mentioned earlier. It's just overall good
So maybe now here you could think of a
Willow type hero. Yeah, let's leave it with willow something to just secure the lane
Exactly, because you could semi-expect like the Ursa to come out, so you know, just have like some soft lockdown or if you are talking about the storm that's potentially coming out, your Mars can buy your ULs, your Willows should be fairly okay.
It's not a hard counter, but it's decent. They will still go with the Marsy, which I liked from earlier. I'm just now just thinking it shouldn't fully answer like what Spirit are getting, but it allows you to do what you're looking for in the early game.
If Spirit did go for Storm 18, couldn't Liquid just run SF mid, like dumpster the Storm,
and then Marci carry, dumpster the Largo?
This is still technically open.
Let me think.
That is interesting.
You could definitely go the Marci carry still, I think so.
We forgot about Mr. Lord Shen from of course Kung Fu Panda 2, the Kazman, quite strong.
It is one of the, we've seen it many times, especially against the Mars, you have a very
good lane. And this Kes win rate is not indicative of of me doing this back in the
early days of the tournament we had a kes tier list we don't think there's an
s tier pro player with it yet and there's been a lot of very how should we
say dubious didn't you put your Toro and Mickey on a tier no I think it was Mickey
Mickey is the highest we think he's the highest Nico was a minus yeah Nico was a
of course he's a mid. He's a mid, yeah. He's very good at caps. Oh yeah. Okay so what are
you looking for? If you're Spirit, you kind of want like this guy that pairs with not
just the supports but also Largo, so like magic damage type guy for the Croker. I think
also mobility heroes look incredibly good against you know, Liquid's lineup. We already
talked about the Storm, which I would rate quite highly. There's also always the, you
know there's the Laurelpuk. I'm gonna set my surprise if you leave that in.
I mean let's see because you did talk about... I guess I guess like if Void
Spirit's still in the pool maybe they're more okay leaving Puck. True, like you
mean Liquid would be fine to leave it? Yeah Liquid would be fine to leave it. Puck
comes out 23 and then Liquid counters with Void Spirit 24. Because I would
assume at least for now they would be... I think Liquid are happy if they do get to
play SF carry and I kind of play it normal like what you see is what it is
you know Mars is your off lane, Mars is your 4, SF is your mid. Unless Spirit
give you like some openings where you can do the flex it you talked about. You
definitely run Marsy SF and then Jikiro Mars. Yes I agree fully. Even though it'll
be you know Boxy on Marsy and Tofu on Jikiro. I think it's funny because most
of the time when they do that it does make sense but I feel like it also has
something to do with that it just gives Ace and Tofu like an excuse in a way to
like lane together because they have such good synergy and it's the same for
like Boxy and Micky when they lane together like these guys they just
slap. Okay they take out the Slardar which makes me lean a little more towards
like melee heroes. That already banned earlier. Is it then just like the
void? Did they just take the void spirit themselves? Because I feel like if you were
looking for Storm yourself, you will probably look at a different band other than Slaughter.
He doesn't really interact with you unless it's more of like, we don't really want to
give them like SF Slaughter. Slaughter can like then sway the carry matchup where, you
know, Kez would normally beat the shit out of SF, but if he has to amplify, you know,
maybe it changes that. So they kind of understand that and they go with the Void band. I mean,
I would like Storm the most. I think they showed us a Leshrac pick yesterday that I didn't
fully like against Medusa, I think it would be similar here while you have backup and
people that can like help you, I don't know exactly, like there's like a lot of damage
against you, hmm, is there anything we are overlooking? Tiny is also out because that's
something that people have used, of course. I mean, there's like Laurel and Voker, but
it's not really been like it's, what's the setup? Yeah, and then you're playing like
made in Volker with offline Largo, you have like double alchemists in your team in a way.
Unless they want to greet it up. I wouldn't love it necessarily.
I guess that does just make the most sense. Great call, Kazoo.
So surely Liquid knew this was coming and now my question is what is the Nisha answer to Storm?
Is it just Queen of Pain? I mean you have the Largo Dispel but once Queen has eggs you
don't really want to we can definitely play through it i would like it also i think
like a lot of these mobility heroes with like a semi save which marcie with the pick me up
fester like if they go on you with lion you just zip the guy out he's very happy i think this can
work overall i feel like dk i think this hero has fallen off a lot as a myth but it's one hero i
like who is okay against cares and he gives you some tempo in the draft it's also like semi minus
armor if you play the green dragon with sf hmm are we missing any of like the obvious ones or
Or SF mid and you could you talked about the Mars Marcy carry and they're does he want to know how scars went?
They go on poker all right invoker Mars good setup for Cataclysm
That is a Lackardy the SF as well. This is interesting because generally speaking. I don't like
Invoker into storm. It's kind of slow. It's storm favorite
But I think a lot of the times it's it's actually the offlaner second like go to mid early or like get a blink early
Or like a stampede or a Mars walkster to like offset this matchup
But I think they will nicely abuse the fact that Largo is just afk. He doesn't really interact that much with mid
So while I think you don't really stop storm from getting what he wants
I like to pick a lot because they have a lot of setup like you just said they have the Mars
They also if some stuff happens in mid box, it can come over with the Marcy and save him
So I like both these aspects quite a lot actually does Mickey normally go for the yasha kaya build on FF safely
I should like mask of madness. He does the yeah, like this hybrid also does the hybrid okay?
I think if you have a SF safe lane, it's playing more like that
Then invoker mid also makes more sense
You've got a guy that's kind of like a carry mid and then a mid in the safe lane almost and it's more
Disabled like guaranteed teamfight disabled to set up for the cataclysm and I really like your point about the
Largo being just afk for 15 minutes
Invoker loves that. Yeah, yeah, of course
It's like his dream if you can just get to the cataclysm timing get some levels get his a toes
But that's he's happy you at that point you can even you can even kill the storm another question
Do you think storm should go for guardian greaves this game?
Let's see what's aliening us. I mean so you have probably the invoker who might build in a toes me
Who else would he build it for?
this I think maybe you don't hero
I mean I guess the heel could be nice with the Largo
But I think maybe it depends on like what allows you to like play more aggressive and then maybe you'll go with that
Guys guys guys there's only
One thing funnier than that game one and it is a suraction slacks interview
Hello everybody. Yes, we are here at the mall. I'm good to see you again team spirit. Well done in game one from Europe
Very interesting game. This I think it's like a once in a forever Dota game
where I think we can both agree you won the draft like if that shit did not
happen you guys were already coming back if he was not five minutes AFK on that
cliff I think you would have won how's that feel to win the draft and then lose
the game still I mean feels a bit I mean it feels okay because it's game one if
it was game three or like game two it'll be like this way like you just take the
best you can I think there was like few things that could have gone our way at
would also flip the coin like rush like some neutral items
But what was the comms like going into the team were they in good spirits?
I mean team spirit out of everybody seems to always be like I forget it
You know, I think the best way to describe it is this game when they picked Marcy
Yachter hotel told collapse that
Marcy Q can put him on the cliff
So it's already known but okay fair enough. I want to talk really quick about Largo
Largo is this hero that is banned constantly. It's open. You instalock it.
Is that just what the state of the hero is? If it's open, you're taking it no matter what?
I think with SF it's probably tough to kill us with a patch.
But so far I think Largo has the God status. I think every patch there's like a God.
That would be it. So you would just have to take it?
Yeah.
Last question for you then. Yathuro back on his iconic kiss. Not seeing a lot of success with
us hero 33% win rate or less.
Why, Kez?
Because the only other guy to win a game on a tournament
on a Kez was Ame.
And it's only natural that the other is the second.
So yeah.
Love story continues very well.
Well, let's see how this game goes.
Thank you so much for your time.
We'll jump right into it.
Oh, hell yeah, sorry.
Woo!
Thanks so much.
Coming into game number two, Liquid
have that 1-0 lead over Spirit.
They're trying to get it done with the Largo-Kez combo.
And they've got Laurel on the storm up against this Invoker of Nisha.
That should be an exciting matchup. I feel like this one's gonna be high octane between the two teams.
Yep, they have an okay setup in the side lanes. It's not Shadow Shaman.
It's not like the instant stun that they have other than Mars Spear.
Uh, what I think I would point out is that Marsy is super effective against Largo in the lane.
This is not a matchup that he likes to play. Let's see if Ruk and maybe land a stun there.
Okay, they're trying to get some right-clicks in but I also want to go back to how Vici Gaming, how they were playing against Largo
This seems to be the case even though they played Marcy from a position 1
On Shiro three times in a row every single time with Marcy in the lane against Largo
Largo straight up did not have a good time. I think this time around it's gonna be slightly easier because it's
He's paired up with Lion
So once they get to level 2 with the Frog Stomp you can lick them
You keep them inside with the earth spike as well
They need to be slightly more careful boxy is playing that position five slash four Marcy good thing is they have five couriers
So they can also send the items and when you play it as a five a lot of times
You might need to use special delivery just for that and this is the combo that we talked about
Yeah, look at that damage coming in with the earth spike and the frog stump
With that catchy look and they get a kill over bottom that is gonna be Yatoro getting the life of tofu
So already some high aggression from spirit
One of the ways that spirit shut down our well, we're shutting down early
Was the fact that their lanes went well
But they kind of lost out on a lot when co-ops ended up getting cliff
So as long as he doesn't have another moment like that
Which I don't we see here
It should be spirit having a much easier time
This Argo is going to be quite interesting to have to deal with and you take a look at
the radiant winds, 70% which means 7 of 10 and the dire 7 of 11 if it's equal to 21.
He's got a good wind rate overall and Maan said it's like that god status kind of hero.
It really is.
This hero, like, you can look really bad on this hero if you make a mistake if your raptor
dances are not getting off in the teamfight and also speaking of teamfight team liquid they have
a really nasty combo it's going to be marz arena with cataclysm later on with shadow theme brecquium
also want to see what the build that micky is going to be then i'll talk about this hybrid build
that they really like that micky does tend to go for with yasha kaya blink dagger and then you
start to go for the silver edge bkbs these type of items just to have extra bit of early presence
with spell usage and then you can start to scale getting your silver edge and also like there's a
very good synergy between silver edge blink dagger that you're buying and at yasha kaya so you always
have the threat of getting the solo kill we saw shanathan's character in the previous series where
he was camping the potential twin gate rotation maybe he can grab a kill there but there's always
That big team AOE steamfight that you can actually get online, all they have to do is not lose too hard
because I think his team spirit is controlling the tempo, if this Largo's getting too much, once you get to his agonim scepter,
it might be problematic.
Foxy, he needs to save him and he's going in with the aggressiveness.
Yeah, went in with the rebound, that's an interesting play, but they didn't get the kill.
So, it's the aggressiveness that pays off pretty heavily to at least get one.
They're gonna try to collapse, do a breath in, another raise, a kill there for Tofu.
Well done by Liquid, knowing the limits of their heroes.
Not rebounding out, not getting scared initially, and jumping back in with that rebound.
Trusting the process.
Nicely done.
Let's see if he decides to stick around.
Juan Jekiro doesn't seem like he wants to, Tofu.
Gonna go and check what's happening in the triangle.
For this game, they're gonna be more focused on the lanes compared to game number one where everybody was stacking right now, Tofu.
He placed the Observe Ward in the same spot where they clipped Collapsed into Preview's game, putting it there in Memoriam of that moment of the game.
Ward doesn't need to get a courier over to get out of that cliff spot. It just needs to be D-Ward or Timed-Out, and Yatoro's gonna get that kill on Ace.
So they think out this Mars and it's another one for the Kez already an early start that's been working wonders for Yutura.
And another one for Warlock, sitting at three Grimoire charges, level four or five minutes in.
This is going to be a really early golem coming out from him.
Early golem, which is something we talked about last game was trying to give up as little as you can to these Warlocks.
because you just don't want to give up these charges on the Black Grimoire.
Still has 83 seconds before he's able to even use it,
so there is some time to add to it and even push that six quicker.
That could be a potential problem with the big team fight,
especially if that's laid down on some of these heroes that kind of struggle to get out.
Nisha, Laurel, just back and forth over mid.
Net worth's about even.
This Boxy is there to lock down the regen room, not going to be giving Odisha, but just taking it away from the storm.
Tornado hits, Panto nearby, rebounding in with the meteor down.
Panto, where it's there, but it doesn't matter.
Laurel ends up dead.
Now the one for Panto, this is going to be two for Liquid.
Great movements, and Boxy again just trying to be so impressive with this Marci.
It's hard to say like it's one of his best heroes because you can always start to get about his
Tusk his a Batrider, but this hero hasn't been in the game for that long
But he plays it really impressively some of the sayings that he does and getting extra bit of
XP from that one thinking about going on Largo
This is where Largo would love to go to jungle especially if he can't lane and let's see maybe they have a Sunstrike available
They shut obviously
Invoked that one, three heroes,
potentially thinking about going in, but spirit, they're also bringing in numbers.
Collapsed willing to stand there because he had both supports coming over that
up saw tofu and boxy making the move into that point.
Ace going to grab that shrine so it is,
Khor is still taking the experience,
not going to both supports, which is no shock.
We're seeing a lot more focus on Khor's,
Especially if you're in the off lane and you're struggling a little bit on the other side
It was the lion that picked up the shrine so both supports getting the effectiveness of the radiant one
Think about going mid again
But no storm in the lane. He's back in the jungle. We've seen this with storms at least for now
He's back in the jungle
As they shift towards top the supports of radiant have shifted down
to mid. Rue's gonna find that ward on the hill. Support's just roaming around
together. They were trying to make something done and though once they
maybe get that level six out of Grimoire, they still need a kill.
Ice path connects out of Panto, trying to rebound through her spike onto both those heroes.
Anybody gonna get away? The Ravens fail is in. They'll get not one but two as both
supports die on liquid that is it's a whole squad coming over mid reminds me of
BedBoom team the way they played and this is what we said he came in he wanted
to get those stacks he first of all he gets xp then he had five stacks of
three more pushes him to level six and a half drops the golem and this is gonna
be the tower you can't really defend this unless you bring in the numbers and
right now liquid they don't have the numbers this is gonna slow down the
invoker game. That being said, Ace having some free spaces this Mars. Hard matchup
for him. It's very difficult to play Mars into Kez. That is the black grimoire.
Is it always on fire? I'm not sure. I guess that's the best that we could
find. It's pretty hardcore. It is. But Mars, a lot of the times you see this hero
being left in certain matchups against kids, against Ursa, where he doesn't get too much out
of the lane, he gets pressured heavily. If you use the spell to farm, they start immediately
playing aggressively onto you. Toro. He backs away, but we'll have help in a second from Rue.
Just finding some very impressive Ursa spikes to get a couple of heroes and slow down a liquid,
especially in that mid-take with five heroes, Raven's Veil, Arena down,
the R2P in one more, they'll look for the Sun Strike with the Shadow Work keeping him healed up,
they hit the Hex out of Box as well as the Air Spike, they're going to start to drain that mana.
Vortex again, all five heroes showing up.
And that's going to be a kill on Ace, so they take two.
They don't get Panto, but everybody is Power Ranger TPing down bottom to save this case.
If this is a pop game, this is where Dire starts all chatting, how the Radiant Team is tryharding, always bringing in numbers,
but that's how they need to play. And immediately, look at how spread they are.
Collapse, he goes through the Twin Gate, 60 nice percent for Team Spirit at the moment, win probability.
But they're also not losing out too much, even though they brought 5 heroes.
Rue immediately runs to the mid lane, he wants to be the one to soak up some of that XP, get the finger online.
The problem with this liquid's lineup is they don't have a way to start a fight really.
The only reliable way is to run in without Facebooks, it gets very difficult, or boxy
with some rebound and disposed type of a play.
Trying to look at what he's got, it is that ass shield.
Jump in, poor collapse, and the Requiem as well as the Unleash by Boxie.
They just don't have the damage and it looks like this Marci's gonna be in trouble again.
We'll try to fight back, but there really isn't much going his way, and Boxie will fall to collapse.
This is a combo that really doesn't work out. That Requiem really didn't do much.
Feared him for a second, but overall just nothing really going on, and they give away another one.
Another one's got the chase lead. He might catch Mickey here knowing that there is no requiem
Doesn't chase him deep into jungle area
He is a hit by a lot
Thousand gold ahead of the next one
Early meteor hammer, which is no shock for invokers these days
As they smoke
Can they rebound and find a catch on Warrow? It's gonna be difficult.
They're gonna try and...
Spell use is over mid.
Needs to be perfect. They see Basi-Ora on one of the creeps in the mid lane, so maybe Lark caught that.
Because it's not an invoker, which means that Jakiro is right there.
Gets this Arcane Rune. No, he's holding him for a second, but they will see that it goes.
century ob spotted taken out cleaning up some of the vision that they had over
there but what are the answers what what do liquid do being down like this it's
not that much but a lot of that lead is on the kez and kez is definitely one of
those heroes that can take advantage of an early lead and make you pay for it
you definitely can but team liquid if they can keep this advantage or
disadvantage to 3k gold lead their team fight is super strong being able to get
the Requiem combo off with the Victory Feast Facet Arena and we'll see what
Nisha is going to be building it to seems like it's going to be Road of
Aetos but you're still dispellable if you have Largo and we've seen Largo's
be very active especially Miero when he played he came for six minute room he
came for eight minute room and we also saw Spirit bringing five members in two
engagements. And not afraid to throw everything the kitchen sink as
Panther just sitting mid still trying to get some soul experience get some soul
farm pick up that early Pavis and Rue looking to have that initiation
available to him with that blink dagger so they'll have that soon enough and
then you'll have the ball landing initiation but Rue looking to position
better land these earth spikes he's been very important to the success that
Spirit have had so far with this lion as Mickey continues to do the best he can
with the farm that he's getting on this Shadowfiend.
What's the game plan for Liquid?
Just farm up, don't lose out too much, maybe get a pick off, don't try to force unnecessary
fights showing that Spirit is willing to bring the whole squad every single time.
Heroes on their side are not fight ready yet, maybe get a pick off, Nisha, it's very difficult
for them to start a fight.
You saw the smoke that they tried to do, Laurel kind of sensed that he was coming or
He saw that Basi aura on one of the creeps
So for now spirit playing it slowly
They also don't feel like they need to rush anything as long as they can finish off
Agatom scepter on Largo get one item running on the store spirit
But they also could go for the pick offs. They do have more than enough damage to one two combo with lion
With finger online plus the storm spirit and now
Skank connected.
Hey, I'm offering golf cool down.
Nikkei is kind of pinched in.
They're going to ball it in past Boxy
to try and get the save
or spike finger combination.
Picking up doesn't matter.
Gatoro's got the kill.
Boxy is dead to a double
for this Kez, as Spirit
continue to bring all the
numbers necessary to finish off
Liquid in these engagements.
Kind of hard. They don't have
the playmaking hero on Liquid.
So very difficult to make the move.
move. Their counter initiation is Tordado, maybe like a defensive arena, Requiem. Pick
me up this time around, it got shut down. Hex, lost a stun, knowing that he's going
to go for it, knowing exactly where Bossy is. Look that are struggling and it's not
going to get easier with this axe picked up for Largo. They want this blink dagger on
Ace have not really used this arena to get much done and they're going up
against what is now going to be that upgraded axe here for collapse and he's
getting it faster than normal. It's at such a great start especially with the
kills early. He is about 7800 gold ahead of this Mars and in this situation where
Spirit they're doing so so far they're starting to snow wall a little bit of
control but it could get much worse with a kill on either the Shadow Fiend or
this Mars to open up the map and take these towers and shrink it for liquid.
Liquid keeping at the 3k disadvantage for them, which is still in a pretty good
spot. Blink dagger coming out on Mars. It's got to be Gotam and I'm really glad
that Nisha decided not to go for a road of Aetos. I think they need this Agadam
Scepter as fast as possible to have the Cataclysm. They need the extra damage
inside of the arena and they also need to catch at least two people inside of
arena otherwise or if they could get a kill and go back to farming without losing anything
they're still gonna be okay with that.
They'll move over, Rue gonna be the only one in the vicinity and Creep's gonna see
Boxy coming in so Rue with this Blanky really should have an easy disengage.
They might go for Collapse but Ace, Blink, Spear, but Collapse isn't connecting now they
pick me up at the top. He licked the pig hair and they go to the finger. They'll have this kill on the ace very quickly.
Yudorov just continuing to clean up.
They found one more and that's gonna be two if we did. It was supposed to be pick me up,
but in the end they ended up being lick me up because he he did not finish that one.
Huh?
Yeah.
He didn't
manage to finish the animation in the end. I didn't even know that it works that way. Yeah, neither did I.
They learn something new every day, and another two big kills on them.
It's very difficult, something that I've been saying throughout the tournament as a Mars player.
A lot of the times it feels very awkward for you to go first when you're playing from behind, knowing there is a save, knowing that you're fighting in the chaotic offering.
So it makes it very difficult for Ace to get the first initial jump.
Tough to make that jump, but the options aren't really there elsewhere.
Maybe start for a singular pick off of the tornado or maybe you're hoping to get a rebound in, but Blink into the arena is kind of one of the only options that you have to get this big team fight.
It really does start to sour the checklist of things that they think they had on Liquid.
They pick up that shield rune for Ace.
He wants that shard, he wants to be able to spear multiple heroes, but might not have that opportunity with the way that the game is going.
As...
We saw he tried to make the jump out of the Largo, doesn't connect it to a tree, and there's really not much they could do to save each other afterwards.
I also like what I see on Starspray.
Laurel, thinking about picking up A on this, this seems to be like one of the best items of the tournament, I would say,
where we're seeing it more often being picked up like when Tidehunter you're playing into some Silver Edge buyers,
so you don't want to die meaning that your ulti still got to be proccing.
And knowing that they have limited amount of lockdown, if you get initiated on by Arena, it's all about that initial survivability.
They survive the big combo from Liquid, Team Spirit, they're in a really good spot.
They are in a good spot and well, let's see if spare can keep it up because
I'm so far. They've kept it up quite well
and
Have continued this trend of just upping the net worth and upping their advantage and keeping their farm and pressure around the map
You're hitting that point where tormentors gonna show up
They have a desso on yatoro. Maybe they want to go for Rosh in the the next few
although their
Rosh is okay
It's not the best, but not the worst then though, you know torn brooch
Shrines, maybe they want to play aggressively out of shrine
We'll have to see but it does feel as though the map is their oyster for spirit
He should he's still trying to keep up and he's done a good job
His farm has been right there with Kez the entire time
It's about being able to utilize the net worth that he's got right now
And he just has not been able to do that at all
And finally come in and they land a cataclysm, they will hit on the Roo, they'll get that there, pick the up going deeper in.
But it's right to Yatoro, they get the kill on the Toph with the throws directly, but is that going to do anything for them?
Collapse on a killing spree, Bull supports down to the side of Liquid, the chase is on, it's Laurel.
And I'm a lot of out of the play with it, they go down right into Mikkei and they'll get that kill.
Echo Slash Spear well off the mark from Ace.
Ysha who is top the net worth through the side of liquid ends up dying to Yotaro who continues his onslaught
This is supposed to be the big turnaround play potentially for liquid and oh
Okay, you did not have to put it 30. We even opted by one that he just missed so two out of 31
Took it away flashed it again. I mean that that's a sad not all of them were
like going towards the heroes, you know.
Well, that's why they would be a miss.
Yeah, but only two of them were ahead.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They need to land Arena onto at least two heroes.
They even tried to give them vision.
They planted out Observe Ward before the fight started.
But again, getting the initial jump and Team Spirit,
keeping the distance, seeing this is the only way
that they're gonna be losing the team fight.
The big agonist have to reveal on Nisha.
Yeah, and don't work out. Very limited amount of lockdown. That's one of the issues, because
nobody else can set it up other than Mars. Yeah, he's the only one who can set it up.
They will find Panto. And right now, anything they can get is good, but unfortunately, now
they have lost the Shadow Fiend. Rude does end up dying in return, but worth it to kill
that Shadowfiend and slow down his game even more. Now they're in a roach. Should be an
easy ages core spirit. Nobody really nearby. And it will be there for Lara. Why not use
ages on this storm all be good in the world for spirit if they continue to
have the the continued game that they've been showing for the first 22
minutes oh he killed the courier to come component of an a on this which you
can get for good two minutes not too bad of a kill here trying to delay as much
as possible
BKB being built early for Voxy trying to have a little bit more effectiveness as this Marci,
but BKB bottom of the net worth hoping to make it happen.
I like that the Eegs recognizing that they need some extra bit of a damage, so going
for the scaling instead rather than...
I would like to have a Solar Crest, you have Shadowfiend on the team, all these turrets
that you have, Trowrangers, Shadowfiends, anything that you can buff to damage Medusa,
You want to have solo-dress, but then you're also playing it the best so
Don't fool could not be saved. Yeah throw off to a too good of a start
He's involved in 15 out of 17 kills on case
Whoa
That's almost everything and we saw it early the the five-man rotations just the numbers coming in droves from spirit
Is there a fall point for Kes that Liquid could take it back?
Ah, this hero is very scary in the late game.
This hero just goes brrrrrrrr and then you're dead.
Sounds painful.
Ace, looking for something here.
She could maybe land. It's just another one-man arena.
Yeah, Panto, Cataclysm. Ooh, nine to play damage.
Or else sticking with him, making sure that he doesn't die.
They also found the invoker at the same time.
Cataclysm offering, but they picked me out for the rebound.
the rebound, now ball lightning looking further.
This has been ages, so even if he does die,
they've got another life left on the Laurel to use.
Ortex, spear connects, that lands, it's on one.
But they've got that crook of genius
constantly coming out on the Laurel.
It's one, they've got the goal in pushing two.
Yeah, we saw lion combos, we saw keeper of the light,
but this also does the trick, lowering the
mana cost of his abilities.
You can almost permanently have it on.
Even using Shadow Ward, Laurel fishing for something.
God, I want to use this Aegis. They also gave him the Gem.
No arena for 45 seconds. Not sure how they're gonna initiate.
I need a two-man spear back, otherwise this fight's gonna look very awkward for Team Liquid.
Yeah, it's gonna have to start with that, but it's gonna need and require much more.
Looks like they were gonna fight, but instead they backed off.
You do have to make sure the BKB works and gets the tier to top.
that's all good it is that first usage maybe try to get something done out of
this they don't have any smokes available look at that boxy it's still
smoked but it's running out just about to run out and they are nearby once again
maybe they could find a fight with this line who's moved up pretty far they've
got Ace, who's at the front once again, but Rue ready and gets that hex instantly on Ace,
Tornado EMP. Her spike from a distance doesn't land, Sun strikes off the mark. Don't have
really much of anything to hold them down. The Tornado comes in, but that's about it.
That's all you have. Just no punching back for Liquid for the most part. And they are
trying hard to find their opportunities.
They're just not showing up.
It's not been easy for them.
They know that Ace needs to be the first initial jumper for the team.
We still get to see the big combo.
We're still get to see Arena onto two with two spears.
That's most likely with Requiem,
got to kill those two heroes if they can execute.
Big F though, as we've seen it.
It'll be hard to get there up to this point.
40 seconds for this Aegis as Laurel still continuing to march down made with this creep wave.
And there goes the Rattavator's Courier that is going back, but not towards Nisha yet today.
They'll fire the spear, they'll look for the cataclysm, they'll get that kill in a room where they'll end up losing Tofu,
but it's godlike for Yatoro and he wants even more.
And a lot of mana for Laurel, but he will be regen-ing in a couple of seconds if they wanted to continue on. They even passed the gem over to the Kez.
And now he puts an A on this, because he's not going to use A on this before.
Making sure not to drink Aegis. He does not want to get it brought.
Blinding all the way over and Isha's gonna be caught, Yatoro's in with the BKB and gets
all that regen back thanks to the Aegis expiring, killing off this invoker with ease.
This feels generous, this 90-10, even ticking back one for Liquid, but man this is all spirit
the entire time.
Gattro is also chasing Foxy, getting marked, getting marked, and getting killed.
What can you do?
There's nothing stopping this kez.
Just complete obliteration from this carrying.
They are stuck to such a small part of their own map as well.
even farm to get it back. The pickoff is through the roofs for Steve's spirit you
have Kess playing on one side you have Lion and the Storm Spirit they are
holding onto the gem. Liquid they don't have any vision whatsoever outside of
the base. Hard to have vision when the gem on Storm is just cleaning up
everything. Things getting a little bit experimental is Boots of Travel picked up
For the first time on Largo, not only that, it's going to be Boots Travel 2.
He's got the upgrade flying in.
Still that shrine, Sunstrike, not seeing much.
Box 2 means Largo can be in very quickly into these fights,
committing onto a hero that might be in like Kez and or Storm.
Start there and then you just start doing that amphibian rhapsody.
Note that he can get the farm on different sides of the map while the team is trying to get the pick-off.
Map for Liquid is pitch dark, they don't see anything.
And everybody on Liquid, except for Kez, sorry, on Spirit, is building A on this. They don't.
Again, if you survive Arena, Cataclysm combo, you are winning the fight off of that.
That will be dark and liquidy playing Nickelodeon's Are You Afraid of the Dark.
And for right now they're not.
They're going over but this courier is going to be spotted.
They won't kill it.
They know exactly where these heroes are.
Nisha in trouble.
The Echo Slash, the rebound now.
They don't keep up with these heroes.
BKB, TP, and Boxy still ends up dying.
They don't get the invoker, but use that BKB and the heroes of Liquid all bail from this engagement 21-9 with a 17,000 net worth lead, and Roche potentially respawning soon, it will be with an extra minute and 32.
R spotted, there's the finger, the control of the vortex, Auro's got another kill on
A, he has no buyback did for 50.
We saw the damage numbers on screen, and I think it tells the story of the game where
Mikkei doesn't feel too comfortable joining in with these fights, he just doesn't have,
With the BKB, the game became so difficult for him, we haven't seen more than one Requiem.
There was one in the laning stage when they were trying to go near the tier 1 tower, but
that was about it.
Outlight near.
Bigger AOE spells for Invoker.
He's just the one who's still having the same amount of farm for this type of a game.
Yeah, and he's got the farm for Liquid mostly.
You can see where Micke is at and it's well behind his position competitor.
And not too much behind the storm, it's still struggling overall.
The big struggle is the Marx, who only has 11,000 net worth and is being caught by both
supports of spirit.
Uh oh, both of them are holding GPM enchantments.
Laurel, he's not done folding off of that gem.
But when you're able to kill heroes like this, that's a bit of a GPM enchantment.
They also, they'll pick up the gem. They've got two now.
That picked up by Rue. Rue's got one, Storm's got the other, and now they'll go for the tour.
Sharp for Laurel, so he's gonna hit even harder.
It's very tough for a liquid to have a response and I don't know if we've seen one in full yet
Once they get the big combo off we might see those 4A on this two are already completed
I think the third one's flying out and the fourth one being very close
And it can go even as what there is a champ.
There's no help right now and they got the BKB,
but Mikkei trying to hit back, unable to do so.
He's gonna be dead for 70 seconds.
It might just be about that time.
And there's still these roaches.
There's still a lot of the base together,
but these heroes are just getting run at
with no regard for their own well-being on Spirit
because they know they can survive most of this.
The Spirit connects the meteors down.
Maybe they get one, they got Yatoro.
So I've spoken too soon because they just got 2,000 gold for that kill
That's all they need over Jallis. He has another spear ready
Fatal bonds chaotic off-ring yet another spear, but he's gonna be dead. Wait here flies out once more and that is a big kill
as
Collapse will heal up the rest
It's a lot of gold good amount of XP that they just got from it first time seeing
Spear connect onto the two heroes with cataclysm sharing the damage they just
almost blew them up instantly most importantly Yattaro dies they didn't
get their gem back unfortunately and now they have four a on discs this is one
of the few times you will see this especially this early in the game this
is 30 minutes we're talking about
Nisha. TPing back home. He was the one who claimed the life of the Kez. Probably with
where the net worths are at the best one to get it because he's now top of the net worths.
I think it's so crazy that Nisha impacted. It's something different than any other player
on any other team. Yeah, pretty much. On top of the network in a game like this. Only
having two deaths and we're gonna see that fight again. Ace finally finds the right
opportunity, patient enough, collecting your setup, they'd help him out. They tried
to catch you, look and save but couldn't. And in getting that kill I feel like it
gives them maybe a few more minutes if they can't fight back again. They went
into the fight, this network we might tumble and it could be liquids that
game to come back on as long as they keep the shadowfiend alive. That being said, this is
Rosh, this is an easy A, there's no contest coming out from the Liquid, so just still feel despite
the fact that they were finally able to kill the Caz, more of the same.
You see Liquid just tied up to their base, they circle where they can kind of
maybe find the Liquid on Spirit because Storm's the one pointing out, hey, if we're going to be
down here we just showed in the lane they might just go up top to move for some farm
that's exactly where they're going i would love to see oh okay they can sit from we have like
the tool to one shot they have the tools problem is they have these four and discs you can dispel
them and then maybe have the follow-up stun with tornado but i would also love to see nullifier
maybe on Mars so that you can kill the heroes. He's still sitting at 1400 gold.
So that's maybe 10 minutes into the game, five minutes, depending on whether you're going to be
able to get the kill. Cataclysm, uh-oh. Yule's safe in the air, but the spear lands. Honolaro,
that's going to be an A on Diskin and the boots to travel in. You get the kill in the room,
they'll take the line, now they'll look to put the right quick damage on the collapse,
He'll be broken and he is in trouble.
All of all that is happening. Mars is getting chased back by Yatoro, who's not even in this fight.
They're gonna kill an Epoxy. They will finish off the Mars inside the base.
They have the kez in deep. The rest of the team is trying to fight, but they'll end up losing too.
Playing a bit of a longer fight this time.
Managing to get the stuns, brought those A on discs.
Tofu.
Also in no man's land. Thinking about maybe there's a shrine to be picked up.
I'm not sure if it'll show itself, but it was not there.
BKB now for Storm, a little bit more survivability as he's trying to cut the creep wave, but
there is a storm that can just vortex you as you show on the wave.
Tofu will lose his life while trying to kill most of those creeps.
Does kill, I think, all but one.
sure that's worth dying though.
So, a little bit of a glimpse of the potential damage that Liquid can do, didn't exactly
start off being this amazing fight for them either, but that was all without Kes.
Yeah, Misha we saw that he has gunpowder gauntlet with greedy enchantments, knowing
that he can still get the good amount of farm with his summons, with his spells, 100
ypm is a lot.
It allows it to stay on top of the network, octrain, finish, still sitting at 3000 plus
gold.
Now has the madstones I believe.
We'll see what they want to start going for.
Pyrrhic Serrated Shiv is...
They were looking for BKB for Boxing for a long time and I think he had to do this first,
but anyway, it's a mix of three different items.
Casual Cloak, just so he has enough survivability.
He didn't want to get a BKB, but the Ghost Center, let's see the combo, Kez.
Spear but the link he still gets to survive with a shadow word
That's a weird interaction. I guess like is stronger than a spear here
Camp Pierce is done
Let's try elsewhere
So go for the storm ace with PKB a tour away with the BTB to zone looks at Asia two shots tow
Q's him up, it dishes him out.
Keanu Kaufferinga, that's gonna be dead big game.
They'll lose the shadow, Fiji's got 3D.
They're diving in for more, taking the battle away from these heroes with the help of the lion.
Isha inside the base by getting frags on him.
And he'll die to Gatoro.
A thousand plus stacks coming up from Kez and also Arena.
It's only onto one again. Largo in the back line.
They were unable to proc some of those a on this to still ready my backs are coming out Asia
Let's see what they could do
The gate has no buyback available
Two of the four and discs are still unpopped
Still court
Wind Waker for collapse
We still have so much to save his allies, it's also got that extra effect on the Amphibian Rhapsody.
Plus the extra armor, you are playing against Shadowfiend.
Removing quite a lot of his damage, Yattaro, 17, 1, and 10.
Only dying once, pretty much.
Six slotted, can still get Agadam Scepter, even upgraded his blink.
That's a swift blink.
Upgraded insane amount of damage that he can just jump in and go on a target and now I get him Sifter also done.
Team Liquid, they have one more try.
Oh, like that try was their one more try, but they still get another one down 40,000 net worth.
This is...
A lot to have to overcome.
Some most would say insurmountable, but we've seen...
Uh, bigger throws before.
It's just very tough against this Kez. You just picked up an axe.
So the katana to the size, and this is gonna be tough to beat.
All the 27 there too.
will find his heroes or will he find them as the spear the arena was used to be
kicked out from the atura who wrapped their dance and kill off the game
now he's still gonna survive
and four tanks falling down and getting killed
cataclysm gonna fly out and they get killed atura and he's still up in the air
I believe from the week later they came out from the water though
they'll end up dead they'll get that one but now they have the finger in the
chef he is being trained and is mad at trying to fight back out tomorrow they'll
have the four tanks once again he'll be dead for two minutes as all they lose
is this case, that's gonna make it four heroes gone.
J'Kyro went back to base to try and defend these creeps
coming into the tier four towers.
The arenas are not connecting.
They need arena to land at least two heroes.
This time around, it lands onto nobody
and they need to be fighting as a unit.
Other heroes don't have the blink daggers like Mars does.
So Shadofin, he was not close by.
They focused the different heroes.
Still showing that Shadofin can still pack a punch
and almost killing the Storm Spirit as well.
Misha, he needed one extra spell to be able to kill it.
He needed that extra spell, he needed a extra core to hit away with,
and just doesn't have the options.
It's gonna be at least Mega Creep's force spirit,
and that should put them up at 40,000 ahead.
Still another minute without his invoker.
As I now start to work on the tier 4 towers, what would it be like we're going to another
game 3?
But they will glyph.
I don't want to speak too soon.
Nisha's dead for 50.
Kez, dead for 20, but still, they have the damage up, he will extra a bit of attack speed.
Now just the throne exposed, macro pile laid on the ground, that'll take out some of these
creeps.
Well, no, Nisha.
And there's the spear, but the Catulik immediately
collapses to spin on it.
These licks off the spears have been perfect the entire time.
They'll jump in with an arena, but they can kill the bots.
He's unable to do anything.
The BKB has been taught by Ace.
Spear missing once more.
That's another one, as they are going to continue
to just throw down the gauntlets here
and take out these liquid heroes one by one.
He gets Catulik, he gets saved, Godlike triple kill for Laurel, as Nikkei will die to Laurel there and it's well-
Ultra kill coming in for the storm, but the Throne explodes before he's able to get the rampage, and Team Spirit take game number two.
Team Liquid, they had a combo in this one, but unable to execute and always playing with the death, it's a super clean game from Team Spirit, especially coming out from kids.
Super game for Spirit, and we've got a super panel to talk about it guys, take it away.
Well, they answered the question if they were going to be tilted or not coming out of that Game 1.
Definitely not. Very, very solid draft. Super well executed. Incredible one-sided game.
And ultimately I would say it's fitting that we are going to go to a Game 3 given the absurdity of Game 1.
Yeah, I mean even Game 1 was close with whatever the clown show we were witnessing there.
But yeah, this time around I think a fairly base performance from Team Spirit.
Yatoro on the kez had a clinic I would say over showing I will say that this so I
Understood here that liquid want to like make a move with the fresh arena and like the level 5 jukiro
But even if they land on their spells like on the yatoro like kez
He had 20 stick he had a walk behind him
So this was I think I would say a bit of a misread on this situation because they already had a bad lane
And then you follow up with like some couple plays that aren't good like you just making it so hard for yourself
Yeah, I think spirit's really good at doing that by the way where they like dangle somebody in front
Yeah, and they have the two supports behind like if they are not in a position
Where they can make moves which is very common when you have a lineup that has Largo
They are in a position to at the very least like get a good trade from one of your moves
And like you'd be starting the earlier clip and I mean I have to say something similar here
I think you need to be very careful
Especially in the mid game when you overreach into like these corners of the map like we saw it there
I think it was the blink reveal from ace they jumped into like this here one you get this spear back
It doesn't connect, but I think even if it does everyone can just like TP
So I think while Spirit were always ready in like the right move
They made really good smoke moves like where they were going to use your Toro who honestly he wasn't kind of like nearly every play
I think here he's 61 at 9 when they're in like 25 like he's in 26 out of 30 kills on the position one
Like this guy we all know that he's a menace like when you give him a good lane
He's not just destroying the lane
He will find the next best play whether it's the gate to walk me to TP mid whatever it is this guy on a free lane
It's the most like scary carry player that we have in order to 18 to is crazy
Yeah, that is so many kills so much kill contribution on him and not on an easy hero. You know what?
But, Margo for SF, like this trade, I think a week ago, the SF teams were happy with it,
but-
Yeah, maybe not so much now.
I don't think so much anymore, but part of it is the fact that people have figured out
how to deal with SF in other ways, such as having Kez on your team, like these melee,
hyper damage, lock on top of you, kill you through BKB.
These sorts of heroes are so effective against SF, as long as you can get them into the game.
I also think this performance officially puts you toro in the A tier on our day one test
playlist.
Not just from how he played it mechanically, I think also the build.
Not going to Fury, you have a good lane, you can take over the map if you go Deso, which
you did, he's in all the moves, I mean, the guy's freaking good.
You don't need to farm creeps if you're farming heroes, that's the point of the battle, Fury.
I think the timing of Dota has also changed in the past one week of Dota that we've seen.
It's like you have TA who's getting a Deso, hitting that timing really hard, going for
Roche, taking every single objective.
It's not, I think battle fury in general is just dead.
It looks really weak.
Things are just like speeding up where at the 15 minute mark you just go, go, go and
a lot of the times like sometimes I'll say there's a Largo as well and then that timing
looks unstoppable.
Yeah.
Well, let's go back in time and talk about minute six, Kezu.
What did you notice?
you know while the game I would say was over pretty hard I think this is a very clutch kill
that Liquid got like you know the early like cold snap into the tournament everything here has to
land like nearly frame perfect for you to even get this kill because I will say while the Invoker
Nisha didn't really stop you know what the cares was doing or what the storm was doing but with
like this early kill and how he played in the game I think he nearly broke his back like trying
to keep his team like in this game because I think without him he gets sued for things like
Yeah, like this game. I think it's not it would not last as long without a new Shane Walker here, Mr. Jenkins
Are we gonna talk about ace? Are we gonna talk about the elephant in the room here at the Mars?
I mean, yeah, I think a lot of our plays. I
Think some games on this hero he looks I'll set you up
I'll I'll I'll I'll jump on the grenade for you. Okay. Yeah, jump on it. Go ahead
Well talk about this clip first. I'll and then I'll get to it
I was just gonna say the Mars ultimately has to be the vehicle via which they make the comeback
He's the guy that enables everything around him. He's got to go and make the plays
You are on a playmaking hero that has a high up tempo series of abilities
And if you keep missing these arenas and missing your combo it everything falls apart sometimes. It's also just like
Using the arena willy-nilly on one target, you know, it's like
There are some games where that's acceptable if you have some follow-up initiation
And like you're the guy that needs to just simply start the fight like we don't care how the fight starts
You're just the first like point of contact for the enemy team
But as the game is going later and especially with SF and invoker who are not set up heroes
They need you to hit multiple heroes with the arena hit important heroes of the arena
Like that's a different situation where you really need to clutch and it was this was a rough one for him
I think we saw something similar with liquid because of that
You know we joke about it
We call it flow chart gaming whatever you might want to call it
But it was a very similar situation to say the lights when he was in the team and they were saying to him
These are the optimal situations to play these heroes who will be playing these heroes and often, you know
He would get sacked off box. He would leave the lane, you know as
And you just be left alone and and I haven't seen in the off-lane like a massive jump-up and improvement
I think when they signed ace and tofu, I was very excited. I thought this was gonna make liquids formidable
But it just hasn't really I mean
I think it does or like it has in some games, but I think this time around it also like it starts from the laning stage
I mean he is up against the Kess and the standard you lose
But I think again there's a difference between losing and getting body
I think they got bodied in that lane like it starts there and you go for the early moves you miss spells
You die you like overplay when you shouldn't and like this entire game
I think it just kind of I think he didn't reach like the state that he would have liked in this game where he's always playing from
Behind and then I think in the game you can feel he's sometimes trying too hard to make a play when he shouldn't then he doesn't when he
actually should and it's like just a bit of imbalance in this game. Yeah we can
also talk about Lull. Yes we can. We kind of ignored him a
little bit but look at this. This is so cool. It's a it's a little detail there
but of course you know understanding Invoker so well himself while it's like
immediately on the ball with this is the kill combo they have to do and you can
you know stand in the Sunstrike soak up the damage. It is a warlock he's saving
So it's whatever save your supports guys, but it is good to save your supports because then they can glimmer you they can heal you
And I know that's a very selfish way of thinking, but this is how course think
So it's like the next level of greed where you're smart enough to realize that if you save them
They can save you later. So really is it a it's a play for yourself. Yes, sure
I thought he had a very good game overall as well. I thought he played really really well
So yeah, I guess now we need to start talking about what's gonna happen next where they're gonna be heading to
I mean we've seen both sides of spirit. We've seen the absurd
We've seen the excellent and I think probably they've been a better team in the two games
I would say so like I think it's also like some of the smaller things that they do pretty well
I wanted to highlight something that collapsed it because it's not very often you get some earlier boots of travel level 2
Mr. Jenkins, you know, up in the air because what he does, he's playing the frog. We all know you just play your guitar here on the side of the map.
You don't really have to join your team. He has a greedy enchantment, but most importantly, you have boots of travel level 2,
so he can farm the safest, most stupid camps that we have available on the Dota 2 map,
then he teeps in with its boots of travel level 2, so he can farm everything and still be in every single move.
I think this is something that probably only him and like 33 will do, because you need to analyze the situation.
What gives you the most? Do you need to be with your team?
No, you don't you can farm creeps TP in cool stuff
It's also thinking about like how could liquid possibly come back into that also
Yeah, and if he can TP to anyone if there's a Largo at any one of these plays
It's it's not happening the comeback does not happen and while you could see with his zip into the cataclysm
It's the same thought process right? It's like the only way they come back into the game is a spear into cataclysm
Ideally on multiple heroes. So they're thinking about like the only opportunity back into the game and just like putting a wall
No, this is not happening like you're you're losing slowly but steadily, but you're gonna lose this game. All right gentlemen
Thanks very much. We go to a break. We've been blessed with a decider, which we'll see in a few moments
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Welcome back to the last game of the day, Liquid not looking so solid in that one.
My death through a trick.
I feel like I could use that one before I can.
Definitely not this game.
It's recycling.
It's been too many walkies.
I know.
I'm out of shit. I'm washed it.
And it might be because I'm here, you know, it's the first time he gets to like speak to me with all this
I haven't heard this one. So you're right. I got your back. Thanks a lot. That's why I love you, Kersy
No, I'm doing so much. But anyway, why don't we talk about it?
So as I said before we went to break we have seen the ridiculous and the sublime out of team spirit the game that
You know, they were never going to win it
But they almost deceived you into thinking somehow that they can and then an absolute stomp over a very very good team liquid
And so now it's all about the adjustments in this draft remember tournament life is on the line
Yeah, so obviously this is where if you're gonna pull out a curveball which we both know these two excellent drafting teams are capable of
This is where you do it shall I remind?
Everyone you shall about team liquid versus team Aurora
Game one Aurora shit on them. We were like this series is over. It's done
game 2 liquid they turn it around. They destroy Aurora. Game 3, same thing not
even close. So you can't question this team's resilience. In fact that's one
of my favorite things watching these two teams battle up against each other
because in my opinion they're the two most resilient teams in all of Dota for
the last like two years. These are the two teams I would say are the most
resilient. So you know that game 3 is gonna be hype no matter how game 1 and
game 2 though. No, absolutely. Like I think you just know because you know for
all the reasons you mentioned just like the aura that these two teams have
because you know how good spirit can be when they're on their A game. We have
seen in recent tournaments how good Liquid actually are you know when they
play their game they get through the early game but I do think things need to
like combine overall if I look at like the the power level maybe of game 1 and
game 2 I would now give a slight edge at least to team spirit like overall
because yeah in game 1 brother got clipped for six minutes didn't really play
and like they did make a comeback overall, but I'm just excited to see you know the third draft of the game
What is like the adaptation from both teams? Where do you like maybe slightly tweak it for liquid?
What are the like the trades you're looking for because the Mars into the Kes giving up the Largo and then maybe you were slightly too
Greedy with the niche and Volker at the end who didn't really cut down anyone
So I just want to just want to see what the players have in store for us
That's one thing I will say about ace Mars as well that
that he has looked good in a lot of games. He's looked shaky in other games. And this team has
got to be one of the best tests. Like you're laning against Yatoro, they're fully willing to hard
counter you and lane, put you in these really difficult situations that you have to deal with.
In terms of how much he plays these other heroes, he is new to playing.
I mean, Mars numbers tell their own story that ultimately the Mars is shaky. It's as simple as
that and I think that'll be reflected in the draft. I don't think they're afraid of an Ace Mars.
Yeah, but I know Blitz is also the type of drafter and the type of coach that really trusts his
players so he can he will straight up ask Ace like can you can you do it can you play Mars again
this game like should I prioritize it and if he says yes he will pick it but there's also a chance
he said like no you know I give me something that's more comfortable I feel like Tidehunter fulfills
similar purpose, but it's just something that ACE is a lot better at. It's something he has a lot more practice on.
I do wonder, like a little bit just to talk about the bands, like Liquid, if I look at their first-phase bands, because they are first pick, I
don't really see them like picking Badrider with the setup currently.
So I understand also that Spirit aren't banding it, because I think if you were looking at Badrider, you would have taken out
probably like the Windranger, or like I think earlier when they played they took out the SD on the last band, like Liquid on the slot, so
I do wonder like where they're taking it because I think otherwise we're just inviting spirit to do something similar that they did in Game 1.
Do they take Windranger expecting Spirit to take that?
Because Spirit banned out Shadow Demon.
I think they have the same read as you, like Liquid after Game 1 doesn't really want that.
Oh no. Oh no, the Cliffening.
Cliff is back.
They haven't lost yet, huh? With this hero.
That's honestly crazy.
You know one hero who can't be cliffed batrider and collapses
Grandmaster tier god tier batrider amazing taking any time
It's just a good hero. You know what else is good against the stone man. It's Phoenix
It's overall just you know you make I would say core tiny's life, you know a lot harder to play
Maybe on the supports you don't care too much, but I
Agree with you. You also you banned out the SD like it's kind of free for you to pick bad writer here
It's just very good.
I do wonder okay, they do go for it. Maybe they're deliberating like do we want to play a bad game?
Or do we want to play something more normal because they could just you know pick some jikiro?
Normal hero have a more normal draft and then van bat, but come on you get this opportunity to play collapsed bat rider
I feel like you should take you should take it
Like now it's also like cuz from the series we have seen in what these teams value like we have seen spirit themselves
They answer a bad writer with Windranger. So is that a hero you want to ban or do you want to like take out?
Let's say you take out the center or you pick Windranger yourself
Or are you like okay? We don't really care if they windranger
We're probably selecting them to like weaver or faces what you know
We kind of seen a resurgence of some of these heroes
So I think the second phase and also the bands it should tell us a little bit more of like how the teams are thinking about the next phase
we saw a bad writer flexed in the first game and
And Liquid has to be worried about that too in this game because Laurel will take Batrider mid.
He's played it once this tournament and he won with it.
And it is, at least historically, it was very good against Tiny.
So this is something that Liquid has to prepare for, that if they're drafting, that is not guaranteed to be some offline Batrider.
Yeah, especially after the shenanigans that happened in Game 1.
You know that these teams like they were already ready in the first game to you know like to drop it really all out
You know lay out all your cards of what you can do with these heroes
So when you come to like the third game of a series, you know that they will do just the same if they have to
So the next
Two picks is almost always you see the very typical supports, okay?
There's one of them banned out heroes very good
Phoenix is still there was Phoenix ignored in the previous games
I think he was yeah may have been banned in one of the games. I think it was overall more so ignored ignored in both
Need to remember also like for liquid and like because we've seen a resurgence of a couple of heroes over the last days
Like oracle is in the pool. It's not something's for it have banned yet
Of course, they have choice if they you know if they do want to then also if you're liquid
They have played a lot of coddle tiny as a combination
So if they're maybe looking to play tiny more as a core, you know, there is a world where you can pick
the caudal I don't know yet if I love it and it depends a bit on what the spirit
show you is it a good core game for the tiny because if not you can also just
pick like a support and maybe a flex core and just be happy for a liquid
band caudal pick oracle for spirit just take a both out that might be good but
then if we think like 10 20 more seconds is it like an overcooking it could be
absolutely it's an overcooking I don't think you I think that's a meme I mean
Because there are definitely more fling ban damn they're already preparing for the 18th
Tech that's crazy
I'm trying to think very cool. I mean is there a way where they're looking at like devoid
again like what else would give them like this idea right now because you don't like
again especially on second pick like you are preparing your draft to not get like exodia
but on the 18 pick by the enemy team.
So this morph should tell us a little bit more.
Like in game one, they picked Void
and they saw Liquid's answer was the Morphling.
Oh, I like the Phoenix.
Again, I love Badrider and Phoenix,
how they team fight together.
You start with the last, so you drag a guy in,
the guy's getting sunrayed.
If they come to help him, there's an egg.
Yeah, everyone.
Like they're so great with one another
and Phoenix against Tiny in most scenarios,
it's just amazing.
It's a super good pick.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, so nobody's picking egg killers either.
That's true.
Most of these games, I mean it's difficult in this game because you know Snap is just
not a good hero and a lot of the egg hitters I feel like come from the carry position,
but Liquid has to kind of answer the Batrider as well with the carry.
Like you need something that's going to lane decent against it, you know like a weaver.
Yeah, shouldn't it just be one of those?
Like the weaver or their own Windranger?
Like Naked loves this hero, it's good against the Bat.
They're both semi-killers of the...
They're not too surprising for now.
Definitely not. Super strong against Phoenix as well.
It's all magic damage and you can nullify everything by just pressing a W on your team.
So here now Spirit kind of get to decide or I think show their hand.
If you do want to flex the Batrider, you can.
And then your Offlaners are like the Mars or the Centaur.
Or they're just like, okay, we're just going to play our Offlane Batrider.
gonna pick a I would assume most likely a melee plus four like pull some ways
maybe have some threat on the Oracle I mean what else is there I don't think
Rue has played like too many like melee fours I think he's played Nix but this
doesn't stand out as like a crazy Nix game I mean you have map play with
Batrider and Nix which is cool but if Marcy is like something he plays that's
okay maybe how about Ricky ooh Ricky plus one that could be cool at least it's an
answer to the oracle. That would be sick. You enable your Batrider to like lasso and
the guy can never get saved. Yeah, if you have the miss chance. If Spirit is fine with
Collapse basically just playing the lane. Okay, so they do the do the Mars that you go
for like step one. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So this is so cool. These drafts have been sick. Just
the constant day to dig this whole way through because there could have been, I mean, I guess
not. Cause then maybe liquid wouldn't have picked 15 win ranger because 18 pick morphing
against what you're seeing right now would have been kind of spicy. Yeah, that would
been really good. So, and okay, now if you're looking at liquid side, you can run tiny as a four
and then pick something that does really well against Batrider mid, like Queen of Pain maybe?
Yeah, but Batrider is maybe just your support. I mean, we'll see after this.
Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. 17 should reveal.
I mean, so do you, I mean, what do you pick here? I feel like you pick your carry,
because then at least you can go for like, you know that Windranger is probably the carry,
Unless there's like another flex where okay, so they do this because there's also the one we're liquid now could have been like
Yeah, like you're super you idiot's tiniest
My supports you're totally right that is so funny
These are the game one and game three have been the most sickle drafts
I've seen like a nice way like because there's so many different things happening. Well, it's a Milaner. Absolutely
Yeah, these guys are over-cropping.
And then their teams are going to be like,
clipped for five minutes.
Like, what is the point of doing this sicko drafting?
Okay, so what is there?
I mean, I like Doom.
It is very slow, but it's been a good answer to Kez.
Maybe you just pick Nisha's hero,
and you do run the Tiny Four, like you said.
Storm, Puck, maybe play something mid
to make use of the room control
then get the double ban.
I mean, what are we missing?
Ember has been taken.
Well, then again, you're Ember against Bat.
I know that was pretty Bat favor.
But then again, Ember can go QW build.
And then it gets deeper.
And at least you also have the Oracle to play into the Bat
if he is a core.
Like, you can maybe camp mid a bit and take it off.
Huh.
What would you take, Big Cup?
He's off camera shaking his head.
He doesn't know.
Oh, okay, we should have thought of this one
I mean this is this is like the hero people ban out when they have kez yeah the anchor like the agonim shard just to completely dumpsters kez
You can't really run down and kill a tide because the blubber it's not crack and chill anymore
The blubber takes off all of the all of the kez debuffs does very well against it in lane
And honestly, I really prefer this for ace. I feel like there's these tie games pressure
It is yeah, and the thing is I don't think they need him to play Mars to
Go far in the tournament. They've already made it this far at this point
He can go practice it after if he wants to whatever like there are games where he's legit number one network in the game
I'm tight hunter. He knows how to play this hero through and through and it is overall a good tag game
Like again, you won tight and like the type of games where he's either the teamfight breaker
Which he kind of is or what's very annoying to jump him and for spirit right now?
It is annoying to jump him like Phoenix and back. They don't deal damage quickly
They're like area control but tight is like the king of an area same if you arena him
You're probably not gonna kill him unless where it's last pick deals with it or until Kez is like a deso or a silver edge
And even then you have Oracle so like tied in these games with like a safe behind him can be very strong
I mean if I'm opening like the the heroes page not what the players have played because with what's going on like
Yeah, you're seeing like the trenches of like the ocean in terms of hero picks
So it is Mr.. I would assume that you're picking a mid for Nisha the only fours
I see who are okay. It's like a lion you know to like help your tide in the lane against the kez
I don't see anything like crazy in a way so I will just lean on the fact that you
can get more impact from your mid. What about Doxy's Marcy again I always mention it's it's
It's a little hard to play into Mars, you can't jump in and save somebody from the arena.
I mean, you can kill the egg, but you're a melee support running in trying to do that
and you can kind of get owned by Batrider as well.
You can't jump somebody out of the lasso.
I can see Storm again just because I think they don't have crazy lockdown.
Yeah, that's true.
Just a casual Storm.
Like maybe a semi egg killer you could go co-op. Why okay, let me read into this Ursa ban
Who could go where for this to happen? So yeah, tiny mid
Windranger for and pick a new carry
Okay, so is there a different carry we're missing. It's not a very good more at the game
I would say like that Phoenix Mars is not a good murder. They saw Freud man. It's bad not bad
No, it's not that it's a bit slow. Maybe we've tied maybe
I let them cook
I'm not even gonna try we've heard
Okay, well, no
Okay, it is just option number one, okay
So the tiny was the tiny was the flex the whole time
Okay, so you have 30 seconds if your spirits, okay now now I'm thinking about going queen of pain
I guess I'm so mid and then just run the baddest of support like this is one of ruse heroes that he he whoppers goods
Maybe void spirits. Are we missing something else?
Like void into the backline, you know, sometimes Laura whips out a left track for no reason that can definitely happen
That could happen if they're running out of time. He has okay back. I don't love it, but he has backup at least
This again another storm into invoker matchup, huh?
I mean this time there is a batrider lasso to combo. Yeah, and you have like you're the one with the carry matchup
Already, I would say or like at least like cares with a lacquer in this game
I think he could like overkill the tide still think the matchup into Windranger is annoying
So maybe you know, he's fixing that in a way spirit said we're gonna beat you with your own game
Yeah, it's collapse Mars like
This guy is the best Mars in the world maybe barring like a mar like these these two are just incredible at the hero
I mean, I really like this from both sides. They they picked some of their best heroes
I feel like they
accepted what they're good at and or playing
absolutely their own style, but some pivots early on in the draft that were really cool to set up for them being able to draft heroes that they're super comfortable with.
I love both drafts really. I don't even know which side to prefer. Maybe for Liquid, I'm starting to really like the Storm into Invoker, because I think Invoker doesn't really do much to you and you kind of give this free early game to Nisha and he should have the room control with the Oracle.
But like if the game drags, I think Spirit are also quite happy you have the Invoker with the Mars.
They have their cast, so like, while I give Liquid the early advantage, which is usually what they play for, because it's their style,
if Spirit get to like, the later searches of the game, which is usually what they play for and they can, with the heroes they have that,
we're just gonna have a crazy game with some roach fights, and just like the drafts, I let them do the cooking.
Right, and I'm gonna say this, we might get some insight about the draft, but when Slacks does the interviews, you never know what you're gonna get.
Say that to my face, Richard Lewis. Come down here and say that. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the interview. I'm here with Blitz. It's a late night for the Liquid boys. They were playing earlier today. They're back again. We're burning that midnight oil, but your brain's still kicking, Mr. Blitz. How you feeling about that, Drap?
I feel pretty good. I feel like we have good heroes. They have good heroes. It's one of those things where, you know, I think they are probably pretty happy with their lineup and we're probably pretty happy with their lineup.
with that lineup. Alright, so let's talk about the first one. We got the Largo, you let it through.
This, I think we can both agree, will be the last time we see a Largo at this tournament picked.
Would you say yes? You don't know that for sure. It's like, it's hard for people to conceptualize
because you have, right now there's five broken heroes and so you have to give up one. If I had
five bands, promise you there wouldn't be a Largo, but that's not how that works right now because
you have to cover for too many heroes. Like the teams that are this deep in this tournament have
five heroes. Every team does, including us. It's kind of miserable because you're just kind of forced
into giving up something. And so sometimes a viewer might be like, well, these idiots, why are
they doing this? And it's like, it's not like I want to give up good heroes. It's just a function
of how it'll happen sometimes. Absolutely. Well, in that case, though, what was the plan last game
to take that out? Oh, and Mickey got first blood, congratulations. I mean, I think the idea is like
You trade and you know what's gonna happen and maybe like you are both getting an OP hero as opposed to they just get one OP hero
And you get nothing
That's kind of sometimes just the trade that you have to make absolutely
So we saw the kids last time from the author coming out yet again on this one. You guys prepare for it this time
I hope so. I mean, I think he's pretty good this game, but I think we have some decent answers
Okay, great. Well, we are into the game, but before we go into that game
Why don't we have a very long conversation together and just hold the audience here for it? No, it's okay
Everybody at home grabs me that you care about giving big hug and pray pray for team liquid or spirit
I mean if you like them, so thank you so much
Thank you so much everybody won't bring it in
Spirit and team liquid
This was the Transformers, the Mars plus Bristleback combo that I talked about today.
Go together, Candy Attack from behind, Candy Attack from the back.
Did you see that meal?
They said hold somebody you care about tight.
We stay six feet apart.
Yeah, we do.
We do.
And we can see already in the bottom lane, Root, with the boots of speed, dragging the
Cree-Pway, Boxy doing the same thing in the top lane, but Penta's good.
Doing quite a lot of work, putting a lot of pressure on to Boxy.
Has another fire spirit if necessary.
They did get the first blood, Mckay did get it, and Yattaro used one fairy fire,
brought a second one when he was in the base dead.
Also had that turnaround potential, and it's also such a good damage item.
Like we saw 2, 3, even one-time Maldives bought 4 on Jokiro.
I love to see it. I love a little innovation.
I know, I'm not sure it'd be considered massive innovation, but it's definitely something that I think is kind of unique and cool.
Like you said, with these two fairy fires, and then the little things are just kind of like, where you set up your own items too,
are the little things that I look at and I try to see if any pro player has their own style to it.
But the style of this game is looking like it's going to be a long one.
I think we're in for a barn burner of a game three.
That's just how game threes work in these situations.
These are two super strong teams.
Like we saw crazy game number one, game two was pretty much spirit throughout the whole game.
And we'll see how good of a start they can get to this one.
Also collapse always referred to as one of the best, if not the best Mars player in the world.
It was always between him and Amar. We'll see how much he's going to be able to get and how many arenas
With the invoker this time around. We'll see their combo in action
Yeah, Mars one of those make-or-break heroes that can you know that you live by the spear die by the spear
Dying by the initiation live by the initiation as well, which is something that we kind of saw in the last game
Here we threw and they do have the invoker so they'll have this setup for
sun strikes and all the sort as they have the lasso they'll have the spear as
well as the arena try to protect that egg I feel like you should be able to do a
pretty good job with the arena in protecting that egg and tornado EMP all
the spells that invoker is gonna be really giving you yep lasso as well be
could be piercing tools you have maybe set up coming for your kids with the big
raptor dance with the grappling hook aka claw and seems like there's gonna be
another attempt from Boxy to manipulate Sunstrike. You can see from the reaction that he needs
to walk back to the lane and Laurel will tip him.
Getting tipped for the Sunstrike action, hard to stay still in moments like that, especially
when you're quite low and now it's going to force you to have to walk all the way back
to lane, leaving the time out themselves, which isn't the worst thing in the world.
I think Ace should be pretty okay at 1 and 2 especially.
Trying to gush for the creep, the range creep,
but it ends up getting glyphed.
And Ace trying to set up and still getting this range creep,
but a little cheeky with that.
Not sure if it was up top that got to using it,
but now even more damage mid.
Ace having the TP all the way back to base.
This will leave the invoker alone.
They had both supports coming over towards mid
to try and help out Aura.
Yeah, something that Penel talked about is that by picking Invoker, you are kind of giving away free lane to Storm Spirit.
But this time around, Spirit, they know the matchup as well, bringing in two heroes immediately,
making sure that this matchup is not going to go into that direction.
Marl, off to a good start, one kill to his name with that Sun Strike,
and also getting more experience than Storm Spirit.
The lane's still going to push in, and she's going to get some of that XP.
But this also allows both of the offlaners to have a lane where they're farming either behind the tower or very close to the tower.
That Hunter overall, very good hero against Kez because of the blubber, you have the dispel mechanic of your own, you don't have to be too careful about dying and also with the double bracer build, the insane strength gain on the hero.
You are gonna feel pretty comfortable in the next few minutes. We saw Ace when he placed that Hunter that a lot of the time
She does then
Kind of manage to stay on top of the network as well
Okay, that's the kill and root. This is a very difficult matchup when we talk about matchups for Batrider playing against Windranger
With the windrun you get close you get focus fire with the shackle shot as well
Well, I believe that might have been a power shot that got the kill on that.
One-two-one is the build for the Windranger at the moment, which is pretty interesting.
Something that we talked about is this build in the previous series is people before didn't
even get all collapses in trouble.
Yeah, he's getting run at, windrun forward, purifying flames, and Tofu gets a kill and
a collapse, so that's both heroes that were down here for Spirit dying at separate times.
But the support's over mid, and it's going to be that six-minute mark for the power rune,
They've got the scan ballading over, but the illusion are in picked up by Panto immediately
Not gonna be giving it up to Nisha so throwing down that ice wall
They have to go back to build on wind ranger
your
Have the same amount of damage with the
Less points and shackles are too. It's just the duration and cooldown that it scales
but it also feels
like the buff is
Higher, but also your damage coming up from the power shot is too valuable and the
Professional gamers realizing that and the toss this is invoker that's low
But still seen and they will get that kill the Laurel slowing down the invoker good job
I look would kind of coming around the map and making their presence felt ace
He's struggling to get the CS
Currently, but he's happy with the space that he's been giving he's getting some experience
He needs to try and maybe go over and grab this shrine
but needs to not lose that salve before he makes that attempt in
Starting to walk over Panto within the shrine circle
Toro's coming in and they will get the shrine for boxing. They've got the kill to Panto
They've got three heroes here. Toro's coming in. No man's land doesn't have level six
No parry, but fortune Zen that locks him down for a couple of seconds the TP attempt and nobody here to stop the TP
Means he just goes back to the tier one tower
Still a very strong start for Liquid, already a 2k gold lead, Nisha running back to the fountain to refill his bottle, and then maybe he can make something happen. Two supports on Liquid, very strong plank together.
You have the damage, oh sort of what has been placed by Banto in that earlier engagement
behind the tier 1 tower in the mid lane, they also see around the mid lane to the right
side while Rue and Collapse they are starting to farm some of the stacks that they made
in the jungle.
Okay, like they might just go back for Laurel, have some protection of the 4 wings behind
them of the phoenix and the bat rider but you should hear with boxy getting a
couple sips on that tiny hoping to get the lockdown and get this killed they've
got the ball landing available but no vortex so the only initiation it kind of
working with is the avalanche and maybe getting the fortunes and follow up into
said avalanche but not easy to get the kill without that vortex as well so they
don't even go for it they actually switch their attention over to the bottom
maybe get a kill on the Mars.
Clapston, a good job of just avoiding this movement coming in from the liquid.
Moves to the right side of the lane, goes back towards the shrine area,
and avoids any gank coming in.
Still waiting to get the tarina, has one point available.
Maybe ready with the TP, something's happening underneath the mid tower, definitely looking.
Cos Long right now is pretty vulnerable, even though he bought the raindrop.
Going for that Mule Rebuilt, Root, Avalanche Caut and Fortune Zins, but he's got the Firefly not going to matter with the Power Shot and the Purifying Flames too if we get the kill on a Rue.
Maked finds the angle, he comes in, gets the Power Shot. I could also see them going through the Twin Gate. We've seen this with these more active carries like Lunas, Wind Rangers, Weavers, even Monkey Kings going through the Twin Gate and backstabbing the enemy carry where you have big team fighting ulti like Arena, like Ravage in this case.
where you can bomb it and then with the focus fire you should have enough damage you might need to bring
a dust to the disengagement. They're also collecting lotuses, two lotuses already on mk we've seen how
effective these lotuses can be. If you use them that is you gotta be able to use them.
And you keep going back to that game. People don't forget.
people do remind us which game that was it was an army game it was extreme
beachy that final yeah it was 2-2 we're gonna get into the playoff series
it's or a caught vortex parrying trying to get away from harm's way as they've
got ravaged available they might even throw it when they get up out of the
high ground raptured hit signal that never gets off they get the kill on the
They'll find themselves a trade in boxy, but Panto now right in the face of ace and ace
Renato hits, claps. He's controlled, power shot there, Fortune's in once again
He'll eventually fall and they want more, Esha's not afraid to continue to go in
But maybe he should be with the lack of mana, cold snap, power shot once again
Getting the kill, the shackle lands onto to his own tree, Warl's in trouble, the focus fire coming over, making them get another kill
That's gonna be a double three heroes dead make it technically for cuz Kez is already back alive from when he first died in this fight
And because Mickey's having so much for him. He gives away a couple of extra creeps to ace
He wants him to have a good game on top of that and Nisha maybe even thinking about stealing some of the stacks
But he has been spotted. Let's see spirit. He's gonna go in and maybe try to make something happen
We're gonna see that again. They find a really good angle
We've seen these like 10 minutes runes everybody from the enemy team
Decides to show up like you see your off later your carry and then ace finds a really good angle gets that ravage
Actually the regen room yet you for storm so that's the big one stopping him
And then collapse is just kind of in this weird position tornado only hits on one and the power shots have been on point
That's a rose.
In trouble.
Again, as the big load is 400, not going to matter.
You saw the bar go up and immediately back down.
Liquid are zooming through this to a high net worth lead.
It's kind of the same thing that happened in the second game where they don't have the
initiator.
You have it in Okra, you have Mars.
has been shut down same as a game number one and your position four is also not
getting that good amount of farm I think Rue he's been on the stacking duty but
also not able to get anything done in terms of getting the levels getting the
kills still sitting at that level five they're not gonna have these next big
important items for themselves on spear for quite some time they need the
blink tagger for the Mars he's only got 500 gold saved up Invoker wants that
agonimceptor but he's only got 600 gold like these items are lacking they're
gonna need it and I think that riders thinking about going into the soaring
but also has that blink dagger which he wants to hold arena on to some strike
looking for it not gonna land to now blacks is gonna be dead don't look
peru they'll find a second he should now dominate and get some self a double
immediately onto the top lane they're gonna smoke up boxy using avalanche
toss and also throwing a blood grenade knowing that the rest of the team is
gonna be able to connect. And they start a game liquid, fully focused, bringing in numbers
in every single engagement. Realizing that that needs to be done. They want to outnumber
them. Manto, getting caught again. They're bringing the rider in like they want to react
to this. But ball-hitting, they caught a little glimpse of the case. They'll throw out the
Ravage again, cannot get the Raptor dance off. Now finally gets it. But grappling, claw to
to try and leave Echo Slash to get some distance to the parry stuns up. They go to the depth.
Guardian greaves on Nisha, but he's got the Guardian Greaves to heal back up.
God's Ryuk pushes Nisha onto the low ground. They do not get Yatoro, but they're happy
to continue to put the pressure on the liquid while Windranger is getting the tower down
bottom.
Now, Liquid is always getting something done on the map, and I'm a big fan of these Guardian
Greaves on Storm Spirit. We've seen it kind of a new meta even before Valakia, where people
or picking a razor. He was like Debo Stope Hero. This is how it started. He's the one
getting Guardian Greaves. We've seen Leshrac picking up Guardian Greaves. But on Storm,
it does also make a lot of sense. He also found Bollywood Charm with Mystical Enchantment,
so has Unlimited Region. Yet to die, 11 Galvanized Stacks as well.
Rue trying to find farm anywhere he can get it. Not easy for him to find the farm anywhere.
deep on the radiant side and Nisha's looking to stick and find him but now he's got the
mana. He will find Ruo on the other side of the trees. Flame break doesn't matter. He's
also got the Oracle here. Fortune's end and eventually Nisha's got another.
Somebody check Nisha's PC. He's finding Kuro's end fog. This guy is just insane. He has such
a good game read on whatever is happening like we saw it in the second game where things were
not going their way it's still staying on top of the network in the losing game having the gpm
enchantment on invoker and this time around completely destroying team spirit so far
5-0 and 5 on nisha i don't know when the last time i saw nisha not have a game was even when he
didn't have a lane even in the game they lost this series he was top of the network
It's insane the capabilities he has.
During one of the interviews when Blitz was talking about maybe he gets so buff.
You know, he's got the gear going, he's got himself flexing on everybody with massive muscle,
but it feels like he's just got a massive dota muscle.
Yeah, I think the only thing that can stop Misha if he gets too buffed in real life,
and then he can't reach the keyboard and the mouse like it.
the T-Rex hands going on.
Last oh oh!
They want to begin the treatment.
A little bit of payback.
Let's see Laurel how he approaches this one,
but they're losing heroes here at their ace.
East channeling the meter.
Vortex, Tanto.
AT to, it grew his dive away.
Does anybody have a four step?
He's got a TP.
And...
I think Collapse is going to be pretty happy
about this one, not being the only one.
So he's waiting until the rest of the team maybe decides to show up
to check whether they're camping him, whether they're an Observer Ward
or if they want to use Tornado.
Boxy is gonna toss him out. Okay, Boxy, come on.
They've got the tools to get him off the cliff. That's no fun.
Lots of viewers at home want to see you stranded for five minutes.
But won't be stranded for that long, Ravensvale.
Fortune's in, and Ace is right on top of him, ready to ravage if need be, but they don't need it.
Nisha's got another kill. It's an 8000 net worth lead, only two kills to Spirit's name as they are struggling.
It's making an understatement, but it is more than a struggle right now.
Yeah, they're really struggling to start a fight. Pretty much the same thing as in game number two.
Batrider needs like he's farming in the outer ring trying to get as much farm as possible
Stacking the camps for himself, so they will have two blink daggers in the next minute or so
And a thousand gold away from invokers agonim scepter
Taking these outer towers now and
starting to check more boxes on getting rid of
of spirit and hoping to quiet them down.
They've done a good job of stymying anything
that they've been able to accomplish in this game.
This is all pre-20 minutes.
Radio's button time is under attack.
Boxy looking for collapse.
I think around the trees, the avalanche connects.
They've got the vision on them.
Toss collapse up.
Got to view.
Gaurals here, cold snap, deafening blasts.
As well as the meteor, they land the spear.
They're getting a kill out of Boxy.
And he just still wants collapse. Finally picks up this blink dagger, but won't be able to leave.
Purifying flames from Tofu gets the kill under the marks.
Please take something done out of it. Arena used. They get a rabba kill.
Enrug, again. Farming on a different side of the map.
They need to try to stabilize. Wait until Agatamceptor is completed on Invoker.
Double blink daggers now ready.
Panto dives.
gets on space but now forced to supernova they will right click it can they
kill it definitely blast needs one more shot cold snap oh not gonna be enough
timing and that means they've got the shackle and the focus fire to get the
kill on the wall though end up getting tow foods utoro gets that that is not
worth your invoker they also use the supernova that means that's gonna be on
cooldown for the next one fling break stops ace from moving in on the this
heads not often do you see Oracle hitting the egg successfully and getting
the last hit, but still getting some kind of trades, keeping things relatively even.
6, 7k, network 14 liquid at the moment.
I want to see them go in with the next arena, try to grab a kill, it's going to be a level
2 arena as well, maybe the lobster is going to be able to get the shard, potentially two
man spear into the arena with the cataclysm and this is the different Mars facet, it's
It's not a Victory Feast, you are playing against Oracle, so you did go for Bloodsport instead.
Obviously, now in this sense maybe, it doesn't feel as...
...worth it, because you're not really getting pickups at the moment. Would you have rather just Victory Feast?
I understand the concept of putting Bloodsport in a situation like this, but...
...had it been, even, is it completely worth it, instead of getting the heal from...
...uh, Victory Feast?
Look for the Sun Strike. They don't land it. Tofu able to get away. Rue's gonna be dead.
You should get another kill.
Yeah, I still think the Victory Feast fast as when you have explosive damage overall feels better in most of the situations.
How many times during Valakia we've seen to turn around play where Mars is about to die.
You get one kill, allows you to get extra bit of damage, extra survivability, and then you grab another one.
That's kind of what I'm saying, right? You've got the Arena Spear Sun Strike.
You are looking for that first damage. Maybe victory fees could have
Found its own potential, but at a point like this it's not making much of the difference
Yeah, but if Oracle gets the spells that means you're also not getting the kill
So you kind of need to decide how you're gonna be playing this one out smoke coming out from them yattaro
Going into shadow blade wants to have a silver edge doesn't have it yet to be able to break that hunter
And maybe kill him from hundred to zero unless Oracle can respond
21 minute mark, Torm alive, and so is Roche. They were toying with the idea.
Ace. Can he help out now that they've caught themselves a win ranger, potty degrees?
Esha, he jumped in there to take the Sun Strike with Piggade, but they also had the false promise.
Avalanche lands on a laurel, Power Shot comes through, and that should be a kill onto the invoker.
he gets into his, can they see him?
They'll finally just end the kill.
So two heroes die as they look for more.
And to try to anchor his dive away,
but the avalanche of the shackle connects.
It's an anchor smash for Mace.
Let's take a third life.
It's one of those few games
where you don't see teams fighting straight away
for Tormentor 20 minutes in.
Instead, they were trying to make something happen
in the mid lane.
And you can see Foxy planting down a ward,
which is called a banana, for some reason in the mid lane.
The... grant themselves a little bit of vision.
Atro, take it about going in, and going ravage!
But, Roche!
He will go down and be picked up by mid game, and Yuturo will end up dead in Tofu.
He tried, and I respect the effort, but not working out at that moment.
Team Liquid having two auras compared to Spirit who don't have a single aura at the moment.
Mars also not an aura buyer.
Maybe you'll see Crimson Guard when it's a good game for it.
But this Guardian Greaves from Nisha really making the difference.
And we're going to see that again.
Collapse, he gets the jump, goes in immediately with the back spear.
And then they have vision.
They have vision for Oracle to be able to get the ulti off, saves Mikkei.
And then after that, once they use the combo, the fight is so difficult for Spirit.
I feel like I'm watching the replay of the second game with the teams that some heroes swap.
Yeah, it feels like that a little bit of mixture of the two.
So we've got the Tidehunter back in.
They get torn by the way. Supernova gets used, Reigns and Destiny laid down.
Collapse, Essence and Reign, Fortune and Sane.
Holding him still as Mecha comes over and gets this kill on a collapse.
So monster kills, street for him.
They're even looking for more.
Yachter will grab from the call away, but they'll find Panto.
And the Atalantra will stop him from diving out.
That means another one for Boxy.
It's 29 to 4.
Look which playing turbo mode.
It seems like from one objective to another, getting a kill, getting Roshan to the Tormentor in the top lane.
Wow! They grab a couple of kills and then ready to go in the bottom where Rue is farming.
27 galvanized stacks.
That's a lot of mana regen. That's...
...insane.
And he's not even level 3 on the ball yet.
I mean, this is...
...a lot.
Coming in for the Storm, who has been involved...
...in 23 of the 29 kills.
Yeah, you're fucking good at your shit.
Hahahaha!
Damn!
Ah, they're feeling themselves.
Yeah, definitely feeling it that's what friends are for the more you insult them the better friends you are
Also very really good friends. Yeah, that's that's how it is. Okay, cool. This is how guys bond
Everybody must love
14,000 that were please you should just look at again the DJ be he's been pretty free this game
But I say that and Yotaro is here with Laurel to try and get this kill. They do have
The tiny can they get him before he gets through the twin gate?
I think they stopped his teeth here. They saw him and now they're gonna go for boxing to get this kill
Sorry, there's an avalanche as well as a toss that throws Yotaro over to Laurel
But the meteor down and trying to kill all kind of shots just does not have the damage back back
It doesn't even matter. He was trying to get the most out of regeneration rune
He did put it in the backpack and still has that region up and running
Still working with two minutes for this ages, so there's just so much time and time
the courier was there
kind of
Telling them where everybody was at they have this ob century
Figuring it all out nice just throwing the courier around making sure hey easier and then they get them
and they have that sentry down to get the kill out of the... as again.
Mantofru's so farmed, he's more farmed than the enemy Mars.
Blink, Shard that he got from Tormentor and the four staff.
So he can blink inside of the arena and only save people.
He also has Observer Ward for that purpose, has mana throughout Mystical, can't give mana.
It's not like Storm needs mana, he's sitting at 30 mana region per second at the moment.
But he's been very active. You did point out storms being involved in 25 out of 31 kills, but Oracle has been involved in 27.
Damn. It's almost like you can tell where the fights are happening. Like he's some sort of Oracle.
Oh yeah. And the prognostic game also helps a lot when you have Storm Spirit on the team.
You know exactly where runes are going to be spawning, so you always go for that side.
Asia.
Rest of the team?
This may not be one you guys are gonna get immediately and
Supernova will pop
But it was dive avalanches there and they'll get them after the egg cracks
Why not still getting the kill 15k ahead 32 to 5
kills
for spirit take a look real quick have been tiny and
and Oracle, so no core kills yet.
And that's when things start to look pretty nasty.
Silver Edge is ready.
Ace, got broken.
Silence.
Ravage, used, Boxy here.
All Acrid, he's not gonna matter.
They'll get the kill, collapse in too late.
And they'll use the Cataclysm,
but again, he should kind of share that damage.
And the tornado comes through, the Flamereak is there.
Boxy's gonna be last, so they should try to get him,
but they don't have the damage.
Fates on, ends up dying, down goes Rue, three heroes, and they cannot even kill the Tiny.
They wanted to test it out, see how much damage they can build to this side hunter.
He gets silence, but he also manages to survive long enough, gets the ravage off,
and the rest of the team ready to connect. I think Nisha is going to be involved in every single kill
from now on because he has that mana regen, he has full mana all the time, can zip from across the map.
brought it down to like 60% HP but that's about it and Cataclysm it does
come immediately after the sphere but still not enough tornado maybe they
could have gotten a kill on Boxy, Facy that came off cooldown and they don't
even get that kill. Yeah it's all stopping that TP from Mars the blink in
from the Oracle he stops the TP then they're able to get that kill they work
on Rue and nothing going well for Spirit. They'll use this Avalanche they've got
the TOS 4 Collapsed on right on the ace, Shackle connects in the creep behind.
He's both working, but it ain't doing bull nothing.
Nisha on the other side, thinking about maybe getting another kill, but seems like they are ready to push for the high ground.
Scotty Stormspirit. This would probably be the first one ever in a professional game.
2-3 tower, gone, and you can just see the difference, and they talked about this on the panel.
The difference in effectiveness on Ace, on Mars, and like Tide.
His Tide is amazing, and he's a different beast.
Even the guy we talked about being the best Mars player in the world, or second best, depending
where you're going to be putting a Mars, is also having a rough time being the solo initiator
on the team.
you have Batrider, I think Ruz doing the right thing. He is trying to farm the
Agatom Scepter on the other side, like he's being very greedy. Trying to farm
up, needs another 13-2300 gold to be able to finish it off. Not sure if he's
gonna have enough time, but this type of a play might pay off. If you get two men
lasso into the arena, also this time around Liquid, they're not itemizing the
same way as Spirit did. They had four A on discs, which means that you couldn't
first time immediately. Right now there aren't any. At least some liquid. Definitely don't
feel as though they need them. And they split up for a second as they are smoked. Storm could
join at any time like we said with the matter region. He's got Avalanche lands on the 2,
they'll have the gush to follow it up. Tornado. EMP ace trying to move away from the EMP but
still soaks that. Fort should stand the silence is there, they go to the arena, it's on the
Two of the false promise himself. Now the Supernova comes in.
Box is gonna be in a little bit of trouble.
Venetian is here with the ball lightning.
They still don't have the damage to get these kills.
The Reigns of Destiny, they've been blessed as they will go.
And maybe a look for more.
Misha still working with a lot of battery jet.
And this shield room, the Ravage comes through.
Panto ends up getting the gut for 4 checks on top of the Mars.
The toss is there as well.
Kitoro in trouble and he'll end up dead.
Make it with a triple kill.
This is Windranger just marking their target
and absolutely sniping everything
That's spirit hack!
Yeah, Mikkei, you have to lose in a windranger if you see the power of this lineup.
Ace goes in, late Ravage, he's waiting it out even then using the combo,
but they're getting all the spells off, they're not overlapping anything.
The two Auras they do have, Guardian Greaves plus Pipe, keeping them alive,
Rain of Destiny,
He's chef, I just want to see him finish off this Scotty.
Just so it counts.
Yeah, exactly, he needs another 1600 gold.
So they have to back up from this point.
You're kind of asking for a lot but you might just get this isn't a
limitation game they might just really play it safe go back to Roshan get the
next ages. Here's a refresher word for the poker.
massive lead they are not finding anything for spirit and it is just tough to see when
you kind of expect a series like this to have these games that are so close because these
teams are so good but they they've shown before that they could come back in a game
like this it's just gonna be very difficult you're already up against yeah the reason
why we sometimes have these one-sided games is because teams are so good they
don't make any mistakes like Team Liquid having such a clean entry to every
single fight and is now available in Oracle. Mckay finishing off Roche they
want to get the jump. Yatoro's gonna be the one to call him. They've gotten the
vortex though Paul made the Sunray comes through but Kallab's gonna go for the arena
unfortunately he's just a little bit late to the game. Superno becomes in Yatoro's
gonna be in trouble as Nisha goes for him gets the kill there onto the kez
That's what dead supernova's gonna explode, but it's not really gonna matter.
Laurel with the refresher, but don't have the mana to do anything more.
Avalanche toss, lands on Rue as well as Laurel.
They get the go to pants with a call GG.
42 to 5, Liquid just flowing right through Spirit.
And like just utter devastation in a game like this.
Oh man, Team Liquid, they're bringing it back.
They had a crazy series earlier today against heroic,
and they managed to pull big victory against Team Street.
complete domination in this third game.
Yeah, this was really good from Liquid. Shout out to Blitz and the draft that he brought with the team.
And then they executed so perfectly. I mean, Liquid do a great job here. They took the 2-1 series.
For the last time tonight, we're going to throw it to the panel. Guys, take it away.
But hopefully not the last time forever, Beacop. What a great game from Team Liquid.
I mean, a bit of a disappointment given the highs and lows we've had over the course of the series.
Spirit not really in that one. But this is what I love about Team Liquid.
just when you think they're kind of done, they're out, they're out of ideas, you know, like it's not happening for them.
They just keep battling and they're always capable of just having a game like this where everybody pops off.
Yeah, you can never count these guys out. Like especially with, you know, the game that they were given in a way,
I would say that also like going into tomorrow, I think this Invoker vs. Storm matchup has to be viewed differently and not like,
I picked my Invoker into your storm because Nisha, he had a field day in this game. He has Oracle.
They know all the runes here's a good mid lane ace was super chilling on the tight hunter
You know skill in crack and shell nothing bad can happen
It just looked like who's control Oracle is definitely just straight up good in this map
Yeah, it's been like it's coming out as like a like people think oh, it's into bad writer
I don't think it's only versus but no no no
Yeah, I think actually we are seeing the emergence of something matter here think about the supports that are being picked right now
Alright, it's like Phoenix, Jekiro, Warlock, Triant.
If only there was something that prevented magic damage
and had multiple purges that you can use.
Oh, shit, that's horrible.
And you get every rune too.
Think about the mids that are being picked.
Void Spirit, Storm Spirit, Puck.
It's got so much value, I love it, it happened again.
This was so good.
And then the tips come out as well, like both teams now.
I mean, this situation is obviously very different
because they can actually defend ace, but because of what happened in the first game,
he doesn't just immediately TP off, he waits for his team to come save him.
It's hilarious.
And then we saw like the same thing happen earlier, right?
You have the spear arena, cataclysm, storm jumps in with the save, you get the guard.
Because, I mean, I don't fault spurred.
This is actually one of the things I like when they're down or like, even it doesn't matter.
I think games like they will go for like a risky play if they feel like it's what allows them like to turn the game
from a 1% chance into like a 10% chance or 15%.
So, you know, they try to, you know, make this play.
But Nisha, he's around, so they get like a clutch,
play themselves on liquid to turn it around.
But, you know, there's some teams
that would never really look for this play,
maybe sort of succeed with this one.
They can make a comeback, because at that point,
honestly, we all know the game was like 99% done,
whether you make this play or not.
And shout outs to Ace, by the way,
because his ravages in this game were-
They were good.
They were very good ravages.
He had great net worth, he had big impact.
You know that he is not.
You play a Mars game like that.
You feel it when you miss the spheres.
You feel it when you miss the arenas.
Collapse out of rough Mars game this time,
like it's just a really high skill hero.
You kind of have to be in flow state
to hit all of the buttons right.
He was in flow state on time.
Well, it doesn't matter if he was in flow state
on Tidehunter because it's really the same thing
every time, but maybe it's flow chart state
because that's really all you need for Tidehunter.
You just do your thing.
You walk in front, you get the oars,
You hit the ravages, you play consistent, and that's what he does.
Yeah, I do think that overall, I think he did a lot better in this game.
And I think Spirit, they just had a hard time.
I mean, just look at the score line.
There's not a single core diet in this entire game on Liquid.
So I would say that overall, Spirit, if they look back at this,
I do think they set themselves up for like an overall harder game
with like the two supports.
I think also we've seen the Batrider twice in this series,
and then it ended up getting flexed around,
and it didn't really do that much in either of those games.
But this hero and this guy, Mr. Jenkins,
This Oracle hero is doing a lot monster. I mean, in order to have it be valued in the meta, you need to have somebody who's comfortable playing it, who is not griefing his team by pressing the buttons wrong because let's not forget the W does this arm now.
So you have to put it on the right hero, save people at the right time, not put yourself out of position. And like, he did that for the entire game. He was at every room that he needed to be.
to be. I do want to say one other MVP for the series. Two MVPs is the drafters on both
sides. Absolutely. Complete master class in Dota drafting. These guys got their sleep
last night because they're thinking. Well, their brain was on like top level. They've
got the glycogen going. Well, here's some good news. While all this praise for Tofu,
we can hear from Tofu. He's with Slux. Absolutely. Keep glazing Tofu because I got it right here.
who's so good to see it. Well done on that game, man. Absolutely flawless in the Oracle.
Absolutely amazing job on that. Was that your idea to come out with that one or was that a blitz
pick because it seemed to work perfectly? I'm not sure where it originates from but from preparation
it like slipped into a draft like a few days ago and then yesterday and today it was bent in all
serious so we like gave it a little more thought and it just like made a lot of sense there and I
And I think everyone's also like a little more comfortable when there's like safe, safe
behind.
And then I think once we are able to like play reckless, jump in, take any fight we want,
it's like, I don't know what boosts morale a little bit.
Yeah.
I mean, you just seem to be naturally good at it.
I mean, can you name three of his spells?
Finger of Death, Fortune's End.
Do you say Finger of Death?
That's not correct.
But that's okay.
We'll move on.
Don't worry about it.
Last one game three seemed effortless. I mean it was the same very similar draft that team spirit had
Were you guys just pretending when you guys lost or like what was different between game three and the other one?
Not sure what was different. I mean in the second game or lances didn't go well
And I don't know we didn't get good initiations of the vision was like off. It was hard to play
I don't know just we had really bad flow on everyone. It kind of just felt a little
miserable in a way, whereas I don't know I'm really happy we like brought it back
also in this confident manner and it's also been a really long day so everyone
like pulled through till the end. Also a shout out to Munster at this point, it's
like that kept me back. I was wondering where that was going, thank you so much
Feth. No honestly, a long day, proud of the boys and we'll go. Absolutely, I mean you
guys did have the same kind of day as Team Spirit, you were both here right at
beginning and then marathon through. So very strong will team winning in that one.
All right. Now we're going to talk about the tide hunters and the cliffs.
Okay. Now we got a chance to hear the audio in there and you're the one who
came up with the idea that's like, guys, you're on the cliff, you know,
let's do it. Let's kill the couriers.
I always thought of you as a nice guy, not a sick kind of Satanist freak.
Do I want to kill him, right?
Torturing is worse than not killing, dude. But yeah, tell me about that.
That was crazy.
I mean, you just hit his pipe timing. He's really strong. We already said from drafts like a classic tight game would have big trouble
We need to dodge him for like 10 minutes on the map
They run into our area boxies like we should take this fight. I can put him on the cliff
Nisha put a second guy on the cliff. I'm like guys. This is wonderful
We like get this ladder tight. I don't know wait for five seconds. Nothing's happening. So it's like guys
I think we leave him there. There's no TP kill some chicken
Misha later sees two chickens, kills both of them, and it's like,
I don't know, game would be like, even too hard,
because he had a really strong timing, but then he was gone for 10 minutes,
and I don't know, he can play.
Yeah, it was crazy. Now, was your heart racing when Rue dragged your other guy up on the cliff
as Tidehunter? Did you think that we were about to see the same thing?
I don't know, it was just really funny, I don't know, to me to kill, but I don't know,
I think everyone was like, okay guys, don't mess this up, we bring everyone,
We get him down. What can we do? I click everyone false up false up and boxes like I can toss him
It's caught me there. And yeah, yeah, it's very tactical. We will not let the same thing happen to ace. That's teamwork, baby
Yeah, well crazy series. Thank you so much. It was a pleasure to watch you guys play and yeah
You guys really beat up that rule out. It always cracks me up rusa bad thing
I see I didn't interview with some liquid guys earlier and they said you look like an owl one of them
Yeah, I'm not gonna make a sound
Oh, you're supposed to say who damn I was prepping that all day. All right. Well done. This guy's too smart to trick
Thank you so much. No, I won't head back to the panel to close out the day
You'll get it next time
Basically
I don't know. I mean the first like 90% were really good.
Let's just analyze the interview, not the game.
Yeah, just crazy.
One of the things I love, at least that he was talking about, how like this series kind of had like its own little meta, you know, from game one to game three.
The clipping in game one, then he can keep telling a story of what he fought in like game three of like, it scored me there, I'll get the guy, you know, down.
It's amazing.
Now, but one thing I will say is, you know, for all the talk we've had about Ace and everything, I mean, Tophu's fitted in amazingly well.
well and I think he's giving them like an extra dimension because it doesn't
always play typical five heroes his hero pool is a little bit different to a lot
of other fives but I mean he's just a calm head happy to shot call you know
great ideas guys we saw from this series and live in his time in liquid yeah
he's been great I think he he's done a good job but also figuring out how to
play that like more boring normal fives like the guy you have to put a hero to
dopamine game. Yeah, the guy will be warlock and jikiro every game if he has to but you know, we can also whip out like the
Marana or the dazzle or even keeper of the light which we've seen other teams running as a four
I think being able to run something like that as a five has a lot of value
So yeah, he's looked really good in this transition to five or four point five depending on how you want to look at it
I love all that first
I think like also like just the improvement, you know overall like whether it's Nisha, you know playing his pubs again being ranked one and putting up
these performances or it's boxy running around on his tiny's or tofu like same
thing can be said for all of them and I think it's why it's just a nice team to
watch because they play fast they do different things they kind of do like
similar stuff but maybe with different heroes it's just a treat yeah what a
fantastic day adult let's sort of have a little recap by you like that I did like
that I think a little bit there you go by having a look at the bracket of
course the penultimate day what we saw earlier on we got to see just some
insane stuff happening in the lower bracket. We didn't get the grudge match that people
were hoping for. Everyone was hoping for it. I prepped so much for that one. It did. It
did. Versus Heroic. But the good news is Parker can fight Heroic at the airport lot.
He might be right now. There's a chance. That thing was not allowed to go. But obviously
as well, what a great, what a treat in the upper brackets that we had. This Yandex team,
man. It's just been so much fun to cover their games. What a blessing. And look, they're
in the grand final and who's going to be joining them, we'll find out tomorrow. Either
going to be Bet Boom or Team Liquid. And I'll tell you this, a Team Liquid with that mindset,
avoiding the Mars, they're going to be very formidable, but don't write Bet Boom off.
We could get a run back. So you can see there, the schedule, Yandex get to have a nice chill
day, a lion prep, watch the games, lovely when you can.
It's it's amazing matches tomorrow, and like I don't really know who's gonna go there
I would say maybe I would slightly give the edge to liquid
I think bedroom overall, you know Jenkins said it you know their BB
They get over that so hot the prep for looks that drafts a crazy that is true
And I think they maybe they didn't have their a game
So you know for tomorrow, of course you saw what you know liquid it in this series just now
Maybe play something like more stable in a way like for yourself, but you know, it's the top three of the tournament
It's really anyone's game Jenkins think also I don't think they're happy with top three
I think that boom has that they've always been a team that wants to go the whole way and I guess I question like
Is it an advantage to be the team that is playing?
To win or is it a team? Is it an advantage to be the team that's playing and you just don't care
There's like no pressure because I feel like given how the current meta is that no pressure looks pretty strong
I was worried that was gonna go the same way as the slacks in the view from
You know you made a good philosophical point that was good
I was like you I mean you kind of need both in a way
I think if you have no pressure and you find a mix of players that do either like so like this no pressure plus
You know when like you need to like step it up and like clutch it out. That's the recipe
I think yandex women this I think it's mouse all over again
I think yandex win this whole tournament
They have they have had some rough times where they get to grand finals though. That is true
like they can choke grand finals and I really hope that doesn't happen because yeah that's a
it's a joke yeah exactly it's a it's a callback yeah that's a callback but you know I hope it's
not because they've been they've been a treat to watch I mean all of these teams have been well
either way guys it's been great hanging out with you great hanging out with all of you in the chat
thanks for watching remember tomorrow it is of course an hour later but it will be championship
sunday so while they're strangling each other off camera for inexplicable reasons uh have a great
Good night, thank you, there it is, it's all love, all love, you guys all have a great night, get rested, come back tomorrow for the finals, it's gonna be amazing, we'll see you then.
Kind of though, I think we're strong when it comes to...
Guys, guys, guys, let's all focus on getting tied down from this guy right now, they see me running to him, I'm gonna get booked.
I need to actually attract, we need to...
I'm gonna show a bottom, you can push us, we're very strong when we toss him out.
I don't know, I don't know
I don't know what I'm hearing
I'm a lover of the war,
I'm a slave of the war,